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4:00 pm it's deadline day for the cabinet office to hand over all of these unredacted whatsapp messages, diary who's messages, diary entries. who's got what to hide? is it more likely that it's the bloke who's currently in downing street and not johnson ? in other news not boris johnson? in other news as well, we've a big lee as well, we've got a big lee anderson your anderson interview coming your way. to cover a whole way. he's going to cover a whole host of topics, including getting right getting his teeth stuck right into just stop ahead of into just stop oil ahead of saturday's fa cup final and of course, we have hit you have hit that £50,000 target to raise money for the mental health charity mind. i'll be getting my kit off with the dream boys in about three weeks so it's about three weeks now. so it's all very that is all getting very real. that is just giving .com forward slash fundraising forward slash challenge we can challenge christie's if we can hit 60 k today that would be magnificent i've seen a tick . magnificent i've seen a tick. also should we scrap inheritance tax. i'm going to be talking about this today. you work your whole life and you build your portfolio up or just savings,

portfolio up orjust savings, etcetera . and you want to hand etcetera. and you want to hand that down to the generation to come, that your come, don't you? isn't that your right? come, don't you? isn't that your rig long come, don't you? isn't that your riglong as come, don't you? isn't that your rig long as you've come, don't you? isn't that your riglong as you've been alive and as long as you've been alive and working. so why should you just hand over huge amount of that hand over a huge amount of that back the state, especially back into the state, especially when see some the things when you see some of the things they're tax money they're spending your tax money on and gb news on today? gb views and gb news .com action packed tower after your headlines. good .com action packed tower after your headlines . good afternoon. your headlines. good afternoon. it's your headlines. good afternoon. we seen. — your headlines. good afternoon. we seen. im— your headlines. good afternoon. it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon- ” : good afternoon. it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in i...— it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in we eweeenn— it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom .— it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom . i'm— it's 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom . i'm dorset police the newsroom. i'm dorset police nee— the newsroom. i'm dorset police nee iewnenee— the newsroom. i'm dorset police has launched launched an investigation— has launched launched an investigation into the death of we— investigation into the death of we young— investigation into the death of two young swimmers at bournemouth- two young swimmers at bournemouth beach. ' �*iz’ two young swimmers at— bournemouth beach. a12 year old girl bournemouth beach. a12 year old gin wen — bournemouth beach. a12 year old girl from buckinghamshire and a 17 year old boy from south hampton died after being pulled from the sea yesterday afternoon . our south east reporter ray addison is at the scene. dorset police confirming that members of the public played a key role in helping to rescue ten people who were in trouble in the waters here at bournemouth beach. eight of them were

weaned— beach. eight of them were weaned ew— f eight of them were treated by ambulance crews on the treated by ambulance crews on we been— treated by ambulance crews on the beach side— treated by ambulance crews on the beach side .— treated by ambulance crews on the beach side . two were taken the beach side. two were taken to the beach side. two were taken ee hospital— the beach side. two were taken ee neennei i.— the beach side. two were taken to hospital in a— the beach side. two were taken to hospital in a critical condition— to hospital in a critical condition where they sadly later wee. — condition where they sadly later wee. wow.— condition where they sadly later wee. wew. en— condition where they sadly later died. ninn c�*“ 35; in" condition where they sadly later died. \cn�*n�* g died. now, an investigation has been launched. operation marble, a been launched. operation marble, e in ne— been launched. operation marble, a man in his 40s,— been launched. operation marble, a man in his 40s, is— been launched. operation marble, a man in his 40s, is in— " i: operation marble, a man in his 40s, is in custody on a man in his 40s, is in custody en ewenieien— a man in his 40s, is in custody on suspicion of— a man in his 40s, is in custody on suspicion of manslaughter. ane— on suspicion of manslaughter. ann neneee— on suspicion of manslaughter. and dorset police are urging the penne— and dorset police are urging the newbie in— and dorset police are urging the newbie, n wen-we— and dorset police are urging the public, if you've got any video neeeeee— public, if you've got any video neeeege en— public, if you've got any video footage of this— public, if you've got any video footage of this incident to get in footage of this incident to get i. newn— footage of this incident to get i. newen ene— footage of this incident to get in touch and share it with them. so in touch and share it with them. se in— in touch and share it with them. se in win— in touch and share it with them. se in win help— in touch and share it with them. so it will help this— so it will help this investigation . labour mp so it will help this— investigation . labour mp gareth investigation. labour mp gareth newes— investigation. labour mp gareth newee nee— investigation. labour mp gareth davies has been— investigation. labour mp gareth davies has been suspended from the davies has been suspended from we nenw— davies has been suspended from the party following allegations of the party following allegations en completely— the party following allegations of completely unacceptable nenewew— of completely unacceptable behaviour here. ” behaviour here. labour is calling them in credibly serious allegations and has encouraged anyone with a complaint to come forward. the swansea west mp has had forward. the swansea west mp has nee ene— forward. the swansea west mp has nee ene whip— forward. the swansea west mp has had the whip removed— : the swansea west mp has had the whip removed while a n— had the whip removed while a review is carried— had the whip removed while a review is carried out. shadow inniennen— review is carried out. shadow immigration minister stephen winneew— immigration minister stephen winneew sewe— immigration minister stephen kinnock says such behaviour is unacceptable— kinnock says such behaviour is unacceptable and— kinnock says such behaviour is unacceptable and these are eeenw— unacceptable and these are deeply troubling allegations and i deeply troubling allegations and i new— deeply troubling allegations and n neeuw ee— deeply troubling allegations and n neeww ee nene— deeply troubling allegations and i really do hope that the women eneeeee— i really do hope that the women eneeeee ee— i really do hope that the women affected do come— i really do hope that the women affected do come forward and newe— affected do come forward and make e— affected do come forward and make a formal— affected do come forward and make a formal complaints because it's make a formal complaints because we newe— make a formal complaints because it's quite difficult— make a formal complaints because it's quite difficult to— make a formal complaints because

it's quite difficult to move the eennieinne— it's quite difficult to move the complaints process forward wnnewn— complaints process forward without those _ complaints process forward without those formal complaints. but without those formal complaints. nee n— without those formal complaints. nee n enn— without those formal complaints. nee w an nee— without those formal complaints. but i am also very— without those formal complaints. but i am also very pleased- without those formal complaints. but i am also very pleased that the labour party has taken swift action and suspended jeremy's membership , action and suspended jeremy's membership, which means automatic suspension of the whip as well , automatic suspension of the whip as well, pending the investigation and getting clarity on what has taken place . the clock is ticking. the gewennnenn— . the clock is ticking. the government has- the clock is ticking. the government has just under an new— government has just under an new wen— government has just under an new wen ne— government has just under an hour left to release boris nenneen-e— hour left to release boris johnson's unredacted message as wanes— johnson's unredacted message as ennee ene— johnson's unredacted message as diaries and notebooks to the cowe— diaries and notebooks to the covnn ne— diaries and notebooks to the covid 19 inquiry, the cabinet onene— covid 19 inquiry, the cabinet office previously argued the material— office previously argued the material was— office previously argued the material was irrelevant and claimed— material was irrelevant and claimed in— material was irrelevant and claimed it didn't have access to n. — claimed it didn't have access to n. nee— claimed it didn't have access to in. we we— claimed it didn't have access to it. but the former— claimed it didn't have access to it. but the former prime- it. but the former prime minister has now handed it over and has argued the government has urged the government to pass it on ahead of today's 4 pm. deadune it on ahead of today's 4 pm. deadline to teenage boys have been arrested after a man was found dead in manchester. the 21 year old was found with serious injuries on king's road and old trafford yesterday. he was pronounced dead at the scene. a 15 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder

and a 16 year old has been arrested on suspicion of possessing offensive weapon. possessing an offensive weapon. police investigating the disappearance of madeleine mccann say they recovered several items during last week's searches of a portuguese reservoir. german officials say the items can't yet be linked to her disappearance and will be evaluated over the coming weeks. a large section of the reservoir was cordoned off around 30 miles from where three year old madeleine went missing in two thousand and seven. police say they're investigation into german christian german national christian brueckner is expected to continue for some time . european continue for some time. european leaders have been holding talks at a summit in moldova where the prime minister has put tackling illegal migration top of the international agenda. rishi sunak will announce negotiations on a new agreement with moldova allowing the uk to return foreign nationals who violate immigration laws. the war in ukraine is another issue on the agenda, with president vladimir zelenskyy saying his country

wants a clear decision on nato's future at the july summit . and future at the july summit. and the prince and princess of wales have made a surprise visit to jordan to attend the wedding of the country's crown prince william and kate are among a host of foreign royalty attending the nuptials of prince hussein and his saudi arabian bride . the celebrations are bride. the celebrations are being held at the zafran palace, the same venue chosen by the crown prince's father , king crown prince's father, king abdullah, the second. this is gb news. we'll bring— abdullah, the second. this is gb news. we'll bring you— ' 3" i: this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it nennene.— news. we'll bring you more as it nepnene wew— news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back ne— happens. now, though, it's back ne .— over to. patrick i need - over to. patrick- . good afternoon. we over to. patrick— . good afternoon. we are over to. patrick good afternoon. we are spending too much on our _ good afternoon. we are spending too much on our asylum— _ good afternoon. we are spending too much on our asylum seekers— too much on our asylum seekers ene— too much on our asylum seekers and net— too much on our asylum seekers and net enewen— too much on our asylum seekers and not enough on— too much on our asylum seekers and not enough on our own neenie— and not enough on our own peepwe. inn— and not enough on our own people. that figure is now £2.1 bitten.— people. that figure is now £2.1 niwen ne— people. that figure is now £2.1 billion. it's set— people. that figure is now £2.1 billion. it's set to— people. that figure is now £2.1 billion. it's set to hit £2.4 niwen— billion. it's set to hit £2.4 billion this— billion. it's set to hit £2.4 billion this year. how many new hospitals— billion this year. how many new hospitals ene—

billion this year. how many new hospitals and schools is that? new— hospitals and schools is that? new man— hospitals and schools is that? new man ne— hospitals and schools is that? how many new homes actually , how many new homes actually, wnie— how many new homes actually, wnie were— how many new homes actually, while we're on— how many new homes actually, while we're on the— how many new homes actually, while we're on the subject of nemes— while we're on the subject of nennee n— while we're on the subject of homes, it turns— while we're on the subject of homes, it turns out we can eenweuw— homes, it turns out we can actually build— homes, it turns out we can actually build new ones. but for asylum— actually build new ones. but for asylum seekers,— actually build new ones. but for asylum seekers, again, like in neneen— asylum seekers, again, like in london, basildon, somerset, nnnnnonen,— london, basildon, somerset, nnnnnonen,-,- london, basildon, somerset, birmingham, , chester, birmingham, coal, chester, i cente— birmingham, coal, chester, i eewe 90— birmingham, coal, chester, i eewe 90 en— birmingham, coal, chester, i could go on, but— birmingham, coal, chester, i could go on, but these are evewaterinsi— could go on, but these are eyewatering figures are all a bit eyewatering figures are all a en en— eyewatering figures are all a en en e— eyewatering figures are all a bit of a fudge— eyewatering figures are all a bit of a fudge we're bit of a fudge because we're spending— bit of a fudge because we're spending hundreds of millions nem— spending hundreds of millions teen-feneien— spending hundreds of millions from foreign budget to from our foreign aid budget to accommodate— from our foreign aid budget to accommodate people as well accommodate these people as well . wew— accommodate these people as well . nowldo— accommodate these people as well . nowido wonder— accommodate these people as well . nowido wonder if— accommodate these people as well . now do wonder if paul , . now i do wonder if paul, neenie— . now i do wonder if paul, people in— . now i do wonder if paul, people in this— . now i do wonder if paul, people in this country or neneieee— people in this country or homeless military veterans would get homeless military veterans would gen-treatment— homeless military veterans would get-treatment if— homeless military veterans would get treatment if they get better treatment if they wavel— get better treatment if they travel-calais,— get better treatment if they travel calais, got in a travel to calais, got in a dinghy— travel to calais, got in a dinghy ene— travel to calais, got in a dinghy and picked travel to calais, got in a dinghy and-picked in the dinghy and were picked up in the cnennei— dinghy and were picked up in the cnennei-nnw— dinghy and were picked up in the cnennei-nnn .— dinghy and were picked up in the channel-rnli . but- dinghy and were picked up in the channel rnli . but just channel by the rnli. but it just feele— channel by the rnli. but it just feels-helpless- channel by the rnli. but it just feels-helpless .- feels like we're helpless. nenew— feels like we're helpless. labour are— feels like we're helpless. labour are a— feels like we're helpless. labour are a bit useless on we.— labour are a bit useless on we were— labour are a bit useless on this. there highlighting the eeeen— this. there highlighting the eeeen enn— this. there highlighting the costs, but they— this. there highlighting the costs, but they haven't really got— costs, but they haven't really gen—wen- costs, but they haven't reallyi gen—nnenlnnne got a plan other than to bring the got a plan other than to bring nne-eewn— got a plan other than to bring the down presumably just the cost down by presumably just letting— the cost down by presumably just letting eweenew— the cost down by presumably just letting everyone something letting everyone in or something venue— letting everyone in or something wegwe anew— letting everyone in or something vague about people smugglers. nnew-ne— vague about people smugglers. nnew-ne eeene— vague about people smugglers. they're against the rwanda plan, wnien—ew— they're against the rwanda plan, wnien—ew enn- which is basically our only eenenenn — which is basically our only deterrent. people say the deterrent. people who say the nwenee— deterrent. people who say the rwanda expensive rwanda plan is too expensive enewe— rwanda plan is too expensive should—costs- rwanda plan is too expensive should _costs ofi rwanda plan is too expensive. should _costs of not should consider the costs of not doing— should consider the costs of not doing in— should consider the costs of not doing in twen— should consider the costs of not doing it just unrelent ing massive amounts of illegal nignenen— massive amounts of illegal migration that— massive amounts of illegal migration that the taxpayer has to migration that the taxpayer has ne-enen— migration that the taxpayer has ne-enen nne - 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newne— not leaking misinformation or trying ne— not leaking misinformation or trying ne bring— not leaking misinformation or trying to bring down the government— trying to bring down the government or take the government— government or take the government court to government or take the government-court to the government to court to block the nwenee— government to court to block the rwanda-newne- government to court to block the rwanda they're just rwanda scheme. they're just wagging— rwanda scheme. they're just dragging-heels- rwanda scheme. they're just dragging-heels -- rwanda scheme. they're just dragging heels . home dragging their heels. home office— dragging their heels. home. office—sorting office caseworkers are sorting twen— office caseworkers are sorting teen twe— office caseworkers are sorting just five asylum _ office caseworkers are sorting just five asylum a month just five asylum cases a month apparently.— just five asylum cases a month ennenenww. n— just five asylum cases a month now, apparently. i mean, come nwe. — now, apparently. i mean, come on, five. what— now, apparently. i mean, come on, five. what a— now, apparently. i mean, come on, five. what a load- now, apparently. i mean, come on, five. : on, five. what a load of rubbish the government is too busy flooding this country with legal migration as part of a huge immigration ponzi scheme that we seem locked into . and what's seem locked into. and what's going— seem locked into. and what's going ne— seem locked into. and what's going to happen— seem locked into. and what's going to happen to- i: and what's going to happen to the average men—win- going to happen to the average men—win gol going to happen to the average| men—win 90 we going to happen to the average. men—win 90 we. man and woman tax will go up. tex— man and woman tax will go up. we win— man and woman tax will go up. new will 90— man and woman tax will go up. new will 90 we— man and woman tax will go up. tax will go up to— man and woman tax will go up. tax will go up to deal with excessive use— tax will go up to deal with excessive use of- tax will go up to deal with excessive use of public tax will go up to deal with excessive massiveiublic tax will go up to deal with excessive massive costs of services, massive costs of migrant— services, massive costs of migrant hotels. - services, massive costs of migrant hotels. can you imagine if migrant hotels. can you imagine in we— migrant hotels. can you imagine in we newenee— migrant hotels. can you imagine if we devoted as— migrant hotels. can you imagine if we devoted as much energy to neweing— if we devoted as much energy to housing homeless— if we devoted as much energy to housing homeless veterans as we do housing homeless veterans as we ee newnes— housing homeless veterans as we do towards housing— housing homeless veterans as we do towards housing illegal migrants— do towards housing illegal nnonnne e— do towards housing illegal nnonnne e n— do towards housing illegal migrants ? i honestly think migrants? i honestly think taxpayers— migrants? i honestly think taxpayers should be given a eneiee. — taxpayers should be given a eneiee. ne— taxpayers should be given a choice. do you— taxpayers should be given a choice. do you want a percentage farage— choice. do you want a percentage farage ne— choice. do you want a percentage farage e 90— choice. do you want a percentage farage ne 90 ne— choice. do you want a percentage farage to go to homeless veterans all— farage to go to homeless veterans all towards asylum eeeenw— veterans all towards asylum seeker hotels— veterans all towards asylum seeker hotels ?_ veterans all towards asylum seeker hotels ? i— veterans all towards asylum seeker hotels ? i think we all seeker hotels? i think we all knew— seeker hotels? i think we all knew wnen— seeker hotels? i think we all know what the _ seeker hotels? i think we all know what the answer would . be know what the answer would. be ween— know what the answer would. be ween .— know what the answer would. be ween , wen-e— know what the answer would. be yeah , that's what— know what the answer would. be yeah , that's what i— know what the answer would. be yeah , that's what i think. yeah, that's what i think. i went— yeah, that's what i think. i went ne— yeah, that's what i think. i want to hear— yeah, that's what i think. i want to hear from you. aslef a gb want to hear from you. aslef a en viewe— want to hear from you. aslef a en views en— want to hear from you. aslef a gb views on gb— want to hear from you. aslef a gb views on gb news .com. get

nnen— gb views on gb news .com. get nnen coming— gb views on gb news .com. get nnen coming in— gb views on gb news .com. get them coming in thick and fast. it's them coming in thick and fast. n-e en— them coming in thick and fast. its an eenen— them coming in thick and fast. it's an action packed show today is eeeenne— it's an action packed show today is deadline day,— it's an action packed show today is deadline day, so— it's an action packed show today is deadline day, so in around 50 minute— is deadline day, so in around 50 minutes—expecting. is deadline day, so in around 50 minutes expecting to minutes time we're expecting to nine—net- minutes time we're expecting to nine—net nne- find out whether or not the oewennnenn— find out whether or not the oewennnenn .— find out whether or not the government , cabinet office find out whether or not the gov

government is telling us, we're being incredibly naive. the figures that we get are just for housing them and for feeding them. but course , you know, them. but of course, you know, they cash on that they get cash on top of that free care. if and free dental care. and if and when their asylum application is are processed and they come into society, as it were, no doubt they'll be on benefits and while they're fighting their asylum applications , no doubt the applications, no doubt the government will be funding their lawyers through some of you lawyers through some kind of you know, grant other scheme . the know, grant or other scheme. the costs are massive . and if you costs are massive. and if you put that into the context of what we pay in taxes, 5 billion a year, for example , would allow a year, for example, would allow the working classes to have their tax burden reduced from 20% to 19, which is what liz truss wanted to do and was booted out of office in her attempts to do it. now the choices we're making are really bad choices as a government. we are allowing these people into the country , squandering massive the country, squandering massive amounts of money on them, burdening our public services,

face thing to get to grips with the problem and in the process, ignonng the problem and in the process, ignoring the primary obligation of the government's ignoring its primary obligation, which is to protect our country and to promote the interests of british citizens. it's a complete travesty what's going on. but we're being taken for absolute mugs. i did a big expose on this wen— mugs. i did a big expose on this very new— mugs. i did a big expose on this very show yesterday— g; i did a big expose on this very show yesterday about the way— very show yesterday about the way wen— very show yesterday about the way we we — very show yesterday about the way that the european union eenweuw— way that the european union actually treats— way that the european union actually treats asylum seekers ene— actually treats asylum seekers and refugees— actually treats asylum seekers and refugees as— actually treats asylum seekers and refugees as well. and nanny— and refugees as well. and frankly ,— and refugees as well. and frankly , n-e— and refugees as well. and frankly , it's shocking if we frankly, it's shocking if we doing— frankly, it's shocking if we were doing anything that, were doing anything like that, men— were doing anything like that, wen—newne- were doing anything like that,. then—hauled before then we would be hauled before even— then we would be hauled before every humanitarian court every single humanitarian court and every single humanitarian court end we— every single humanitarian court end we nine— every single humanitarian court and the prime minister would newe— and the prime minister would newe ne— and the prime minister would have to prostrate— and the prime minister would have to prostrate at have to prostrate himself at the ener— have to prostrate himself at the anew—ane- have to prostrate himself at the altar—and before,l have to prostrate himself at the alta know and before, have to prostrate himself at the alta know it, and before, have to prostrate himself at the alta know it, somethingiefore, have to prostrate himself at the alta know it, something willa, you know it, something will be eene— you know it, something will be eeene—enn- you know it, something will be eeene—nun new| done about it. okay. but now we-we-neni— done about it. okay. but now we've rishi sunak on tour in we've got rishi sunak on tour in weieewe— we've got rishi sunak on tour in moldova talking— we've got rishi sunak on tour in moldova talking about how we can wew— moldova talking about how we can wew winn— moldova talking about how we can wew wnn nne — moldova talking about how we can work with the turkish government and work with the turkish government end we— work with the turkish government and the bulgarian— work with the turkish government and the bulgarian government to eeen— and the bulgarian government to neck eeen— and the bulgarian government to crack back these— and the bulgarian government to crack back these migrant gangs. were— crack back these migrant gangs. were-ne— crack back these migrant gangs. we-ne-ne ene— crack back these migrant gangs. we're to end paying for we're going to end up paying for men— we're going to end up paying for wen-wen,— we're going to end up paying for that-well, aren't— we're going to end up paying for that well, aren't we? �*nn�*cgl that as well, aren't we? well, were— that as well, aren't we? well, were-ne— that as well, aren't we? well, there-no doubt— that as well, aren't we? well, there no doubt going to there is no doubt going to be a monetary aspect to it. and but having said that, i do think that going to the source of the problem and using law enforcement and intelligence services to identify who these

people are and then then taking them to task, arresting them and doing whatever is required to break those people smuggling gangs, you know, that has got to be a priority. and that should be a priority. and that should be a priority for every eu member state, not just the obviously the united kingdom doing this. so there is some encouragement. i think if they are getting to grips with it. and what would like to and and what i would like to see and what happening even if what i hope is happening even if they're not publicising it, is that we've got our own intelligence officers on the ground up by the sas or ground backed up by the sas or something that to make sure something like that to make sure that these people are taken to task. but the other thing i want to patrick, i've said to say, patrick, and i've said it on program to say, patrick, and i've said it other on program to say, patrick, and i've said it other programmes3rogram to say, patrick, and i've said it other programmes ,'ogram to say, patrick, and i've said it other programmes , is ram to say, patrick, and i've said it other programmes , is that and other programmes, is that we've got the most humanitarian way to deal with this problem is to the boats back in the to turn the boats back in the channel for italy, to turn them back in the mediterranean, for greece to turn them back at the point of entry into greece. what these people must learn is that they cannot be allowed to enter they cannot be allowed to enter the country illegally in the first place. if we turn them back at point of entry,

back at their point of entry, our territorial waters, they will not come. they will not burden our society. they will not then need to be deported. they will go back to france and having gone back, having been forced back into france, they won't have another £3,000 to spend on coming across the channel again. they will have to go back to wherever it is they came from or burden the french and frankly, the french can sort it out in light of the fact as well that we are now seeing the demographics and nationalities of people coming across being largely indian, for example. i mean, that is a safe country. ene— mean, that is a safe country. one en— mean, that is a safe country. one en ew— mean, that is a safe country. one of our largest trading pennene— one of our largest trading pennene we— one of our largest trading partners, we get on very well wnn — partners, we get on very well wnn nne — partners, we get on very well with the indian— partners, we get on very well with the indian government . with the indian government. were— with the indian government. nnene—neeuw- with the indian government. there _ really to l with the indian government.- there_really to seek there is no need really to seek eewwn— there is no need really to seek eewwn nem— there is no need really to seek asylum from india. the albanian eeene— asylum from india. the albanian wen-e— asylum from india. the albanian issue that's been— asylum from india. the albanian issue that's been rearing its need— issue that's been rearing itsi head—decreasing issue that's been rearing its. head—decreasing . issue that's been rearing its- head_decreasing . my head now, that is decreasing. my penn— head now, that is decreasing. my pent—te— head now, that is decreasing. my neinn—ie wen- head now, that is decreasing. my point is that people point here being is that people say,— point here being is that people eew, wen,— point here being is that people eew, wen, wen— point here being is that people say, well, you would be turning eewwn— say, well, you would be turning asylum seekers— say, well, you would be turning asylum seekers and refugees back in asylum seekers and refugees back i. we— asylum seekers and refugees back in the channel— asylum seekers and refugees back in the channel and— asylum seekers and refugees back in the channel and maybe eneenne— in the channel and maybe eneenne e— in the channel and maybe creating a risk— in the channel and maybe creating a risk to life in that enwenen— creating a risk to life in that situation as— creating a risk to life in that situation as well, because we knew— situation as well, because we knew wen— situation as well, because we know that the _ situation as well, because we know that the french aren't going— know that the french aren't going ne — know that the french aren't going ne ee — know that the french aren't going to do too— know that the french aren't going to do too much with them. so going to do too much with them. se—new.— going to do too much with them.

so_risk.ldisagree. so there is the risk. i disagree winn— so there is the risk. i disagree win—none- so there is the risk. i disagree with _ agree with with that. yeah, i agree with that. and what with that. yeah, i agree with that. and-what i'm. with that. yeah, i agree with- that. and _what i'm saying with that. yeah, i agree with- thiwell,id-what i'm saying with that. “cu?" nigiini; sewell, because what i'm saying with that. “cu?" nigiini; sewell, because also i'm saying with that. “cu?" nigiini; sewell, because also oni saying with that. “cu?" nigiini; sewell, because also on oniying with that. “cu?" nigiini; sewell, because also on on the] as well, because also on on the on as well, because also on on the en nne— as well, because also on on the en nne onewnee— as well, because also on on the on the grounds as— as well, because also on on the on the grounds as well, not just eneewnenw— on the grounds as well, not just presumably that— on the grounds as well, not just presumably that you don't think it a it would be that much of a risk to it would be that much of a risk ne-nwn— it would be that much of a risk ne-nwn nee— it would be that much of a risk to-but also _wouldi to life, but also that we would actually— to life, but also that we would actually-turning— to life, but also that we would actually turning back actually be turning back- economic _absolutely. i economic migrants. absolutely. i mean , the minute they come mean, the minute they come across from france, they are nothing more than economic migrants, whatever their initial background was in france, they're safe. it's you know, the whole debate's been by those that would allow our country to be invaded in this manner by claiming that just because they may have a legitimate asylum claim, once they're on our territory, they legitimately, therefore entered the country. no, once they're in france, they're safe. they are economic migrants at that point. they're trying to better their position and not to stay safe . they are, and not to stay safe. they are, you know, so if we're going to spend half a billion on the french, which we're going to which we've committed to over the next three years, part of that billion be that half billion should be a requirement for them to take back that we turn in

back people that we turn in boats back to france in the channel. we've got to do it. we've got to stop this namby pamby domestic legislation approach to deportation as our primary response to this this problem. and we've got to just take a physical response in the channel. and by the way, patrick, we have all international laws on our side to do it. un convention law of the seas entitles us the united kingdom entitles any country to turn back immigrants who are trying to enter the country illegally. it's article 25. if you want to look it up, it's clear as daylight and we should use the law . the crux of the use the law. the crux of the wnw— use the law. the crux of the wnw .— use the law. the crux of the reason why i wanted- uii; the crux of the reason why i wanted to get you on was initially— reason why i wanted to get you on was initially about these newne— on was initially about these nownee. ee— on was initially about these figures. so £2.1— on was initially about these figures. so £2.1 billion a year, nnnnnwnn— figures. so £2.1 billion a year, minimum minimum spent on our eewwn— minimum minimum spent on our eewwn eeeew— minimum minimum spent on our asylum seekers that we have over newe— asylum seekers that we have over nene en— asylum seekers that we have over nene an we— asylum seekers that we have over here at the minute.— asylum seekers that we have over here at the minute. i believe we— here at the minute. i believe we te— here at the minute. i believe that is before— here at the minute. i believe that is before you factored in we— that is before you factored in we enewnn— that is before you factored in the amount of— that is before you factored in the amount of money we're giving to the amount of money we're giving ne nne— the amount of money we're giving ne nne nenen— the amount of money we're giving to the french and— the amount of money we're giving to the french and goodness knows wnen—ee- what else that we're doing as wen—newee- what else that we're doing as well—house and| well in relation to house and newee— well in relation to house and house building— well in relation to house and house building lawyers. mean, well in relation to house and hactuallylding lawyers. mean, well in relation to house and hactually tried lawyers. mean, well in relation to house and hactually tried to ivyers. mean, well in relation to house and hactually tried to look. mean, well in relation to house and hactually tried to look. mupi, i actually tried to look that up earner—yewi earlier and shock, horror, you cant— earlier and shock, horror, you cant nine— earlier and shock, horror, you

can't find the— earlier and shock, horror, you can't find the exact of can't find the exact cost of nnen — can't find the exact cost of nnen .— can't find the exact cost of that. i mean,— can't find the exact cost of that. i mean, probably because it's going up by the second, eeneeneww— especially the way the lawyers were. —n— especially the way the lawyers work. _it takes- especially the way the lawyers work. _it takes a i work. but i think it takes a new— work. but i think it takes a new eeene— work. but i think it takes a full scale psychological shift at full scale psychological shift an we— full scale psychological shift an we neen— full scale psychological shift at the heart of— full scale psychological shift at the heart of government neeewee— at the heart of government because we've _ at the heart of government because we've got ordinary ennen— because we've got ordinary british taxpayers at the moment newe— british taxpayers at the moment nene eeene— british taxpayers at the moment nene eeene e— british taxpayers at the moment here seeing a cost— british taxpayers at the moment here seeing a cost of living nee— here seeing a cost of living eeene— here seeing a cost of living crisis, seeing taxes go up. new-ne— crisis, seeing taxes go up. they're-billions. crisis, seeing taxes go up. they're-billions to they're seeing billions sent to ukraine.— they're seeing billions sent to ukraine-okay.- they're seeing billions sent to ukraine. okay. that's a ukraine. fine okay. that's a eenenene— ukraine. fine okay. that's a separate issue.— ukraine. fine okay. that's a separate issue. they're also eeene— separate issue. they're also eeene nnie— separate issue. they're also seeing this eye—watering cost wen— seeing this eye—watering cost nnenlenw— seeing this eye—watering cost nnenlenw gene— seeing this eye—watering cost that only going to go up that is only going to go up wneeei— that is only going to go up wnieeeieen— that is only going to go up unless sort something out. unless we sort something out. now:— unless we sort something out. now, comes asylum now, when it comes to asylum eeeew ene— now, when it comes to asylum seekers, and ijust_ now, when it comes to asylum seekers, and just wonder why seekers, and i just wonder why why— seekers, and i just wonder why wnw enw— seekers, and i just wonder why why any government in this centre— why any government in this country would— why any government in this country would psychologically be ewe— country would psychologically be able ne— country would psychologically be able ne justify— country would psychologically be able to justify looking after people— able to justify looking after people wne-we— able to justify looking after people who've come here illegally— people who've come here illegally before they look after people— illegally before they look after people wne— illegally before they look after people wne ee— illegally before they look after people who are already here. i eennen— people who are already here. i eennen een— people who are already here. i eennen get my— people who are already here. i cannot get my head around that. newe— cannot get my head around that. you're absolutely— cannot get my head around that. you're absolutely right. �*vn�*c; : you're absolutely right. we need a psychological— you're absolutely right. we need a psychological shift and the government seems intent on seeing this through a prism of human italianism this isn't a humanity issue. they're already in france . i've heard members of in france. i've heard members of the border force say this is a humanitarian issue. members of the navy say this is a humanitarian issue. it's not. they're coming from france .

they're coming from france. we've got to keep repeating that. the government needs to develop political will, understands what its primary obugafion understands what its primary obligation are and then deliver for the british people. and that i'm afraid, requires turning these boats around in the channel. and that also is the most humanitarian thing to do , most humanitarian thing to do, because if you can convince these people that they will not succeed in that journey , they succeed in that journey, they will stop attempting the journey. and that surely is a lot better than all these people putting themselves at risk and rnli having to rescue them every five seconds. yeah i know. ben. look, thank you very— �*" c: /i;s" ben. look, thank you very much �*" c: /is�* ben. look, thank you very much as wen-e— look, thank you very much as ever. that's ben— look, thank you very much as ever. that's ben habib there, of course—oil course, who is a member of reefern — course, who is a member of reform _former. course, who is a member of. reform _former mep . course, who is a member of- reform _former mep . it's reform uk and a former mep. it's wenn— reform uk and a former mep. it's wenn-ee— reform uk and a former mep. it's wenn-ee wen.— reform uk and a former mep. it's worth-as well. look,- reform uk and a former mep. it's worth as well. look, the worth noting as well. look, the wenewn—eene- worth noting as well. look, the labour—come out. worth noting as well. look, thel labour—come out and labour party have come out and helped— labour party have come out and helped ne— labour party have come out and helped to expose— labour party have come out and helped to expose figures helped to expose these figures ene— helped to expose these figures end-fine,— helped to expose these figures and _fine,-what. and that's all fine, but what is new— and that's all fine, but what is wen—ne- and that's all fine, but what is their—to deal- and that's all fine, but what isi their—to deal with their plan in order to deal with anything— their plan in order to deal with enwnnnno-nniee— their plan in order to deal with anything-this?-is- anything like this? what is new— anything like this? what is their-actually- anything like this? what is their actually save us their plan to actually save us nee—ewe- their plan to actually save us more _ all? and l their plan to actually save us. more—all? and i'm more money, if at all? and i'm net— more money, if at all? and i'm nen newn— more money, if at all? and i'm not really sure— more money, if at all? and i'm not really sure whether or not we twen— not really sure whether or not we are just fudging the numbers nee.— we are just fudging the numbers nene. just— we are just fudging the numbers nene. wen-e— we are just fudging the numbers here. just-a couple- here. just time for a couple of quick—name. here. just time for a couple of ewiew—nene en here. just time for a couple of- quick_name on this quick emails and no name on this eneee-w— quick emails and no name on this one,-say-disgusted| one, but they say i am disgusted by we— one, but they say i am disgusted by we we— one, but they say i am disgusted by the way illegal— one, but they say i am disgusted by the way illegal immigration is by the way illegal immigration ie—wn- by the way illegal immigration ie—wn. thesel is dealt with in the uk. these niwene— is dealt with in the uk. these billions-should- is dealt with in the uk. these billions should be

billions of pounds should be enenn— spent on our citizens. the taxpayer— spent on our citizens. the taxpayer ene— spent on our citizens. the taxpayer and the hard workers. new— taxpayer and the hard workers. new twe— taxpayer and the hard workers. new we en— taxpayer and the hard workers. talk ing of taxpayers. by the way— talk ing of taxpayers. by the way ,— talk ing of taxpayers. by the way , weeping— talk ing of taxpayers. by the way , keeping emailing in gb way, keeping emailing in gb viewe— way, keeping emailing in gb viewe en— way, keeping emailing in gb viewe en en— way, keeping emailing in gb views at gb news .com. we're going— views at gb news .com. we're going ne— views at gb news .com. we're going ne ne— views at gb news .com. we're going to be having a discussion enewn— going to be having a discussion about inheritance— going to be having a discussion about inheritance tax in a unwe— about inheritance tax in a title en.— about inheritance tax in a little bit. shall- about inheritance tax in a little bit. shall we scrap inheritance _ little bit. shall we scrap inheritance you work all inheritance tax? you work all yew— inheritance tax? you work all yew-new— inheritance tax? you work all wewn-wew-nex- inheritance tax? you work alli your-you-tax.your your life. you pay tax all your wne. —neew- life. you break your back all yew— life. you break your back all yew-ne— life. you break your back all yew-telne- life. you break your back all your-to.to build| your life just to try to build up a_ your life just to try to build we e-nn— your life just to try to build we e-nn en— your life just to try to build we e-nn en e- your life just to try to build up a bit of a security up a little bit of a security nienwen — up a little bit of a security blanket. - lucky. up a little bit of a security- blanket. _lucky enough up a little bit of a security- bl.be et. _lucky enough up a little bit of a security bl.be able lucky enough up a little bit of a security bl.be able that, y enough up a little bit of a security bl.be able that, itenough to be able to do that, it wewien-n— to be able to do that, it wouldn't it— to be able to do that, it wouldn't it nice to be able wouldn't it be nice to be able to wouldn't it be nice to be able ne eeee— wouldn't it be nice to be able ne eeee wen— wouldn't it be nice to be able to pass that on— wouldn't it be nice to be able to pass that on to— wouldn't it be nice to be able to pass that on to future generations?— to pass that on to future generations?-a. to pass that on to future generations?-a of generations? 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bee— dot com where you will find the bee eneweie— dot com where you will find the best analysis opinion and best analysis and opinion and the best analysis and opinion and nne-weewne— best analysis and opinion and the breaking news. the latest breaking news. talking— the latest breaking news. talking breaking news, it's talking of breaking news, it's westminster's_ talking of breaking news, it's westminster's very own transfer eeeewne— westminster's very own transfer eeeewne new.— westminster's very own transfer deadline day. the— westminster's very own transfer deadline day. the cabinet office has deadline day. the cabinet office nee een— deadline day. the cabinet office nee een weee— deadline day. the cabinet office has got less than— deadline day. the cabinet office has got less than an hour to wenenen— has got less than an hour to transfer boris— has got less than an hour to transfer boris johnson's wnenenee— transfer boris johnson's whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry-— whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry- n— whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. i believe— whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. i believe diary entries as inquiry. i believe diary entries ee wen,— inquiry. i believe diary entries ee wew, ene— inquiry. i believe diary entries as well, and a— inquiry. i believe diary entries as well, and a few other bits ene— as well, and a few other bits and bene— as well, and a few other bits and bobs. it's— as well, and a few other bits and bobs. it's worthwhile noting wen— and bobs. it's worthwhile noting nnen nneee— and bobs. it's worthwhile noting that these whatsapp messages are not that these whatsapp messages are net-newe— not just from boris. they newne— not just from boris. they| include—rishi not just from boris. they- include_rishi sunak include people like rishi sunak . nnew— include people like rishi sunak . nnew newne— include people like rishi sunak . they include other who . they include other people who are . they include other people who high— . they include other people who are high government at the are high up in government at the wne— are high up in government at the time .— are high up in government at the time . wu— are high up in government at the time . will-beat— are high up in government at the time . will beat the time. will they beat the deadline— time. will they beat the deadline and- time. will they beat the deadline and if they don't, by the deadline and if they don't, by nne-eewwe— deadline and if they don't, by the-could it— deadline and if they don't, by the could it result in a the way, could it result in a eewn— the way, could it result in a court case and— the way, could it result in a court case and prison? boris johnson— court case and prison? boris nenneen nee— court case and prison? boris johnson has smashed the ball firmw— johnson has smashed the ball firmly in— johnson has smashed the ball firmly in rishi— johnson has smashed the ball firmly in rishi sunak's court , firmly in rishi sunak's court, eewne— firmly in rishi sunak's court, eewne nwe— firmly in rishi sunak's court, saying i've given— firmly in rishi sunak's court, saying i've given you all the ne— saying i've given you all the infe ,— saying i've given you all the inne , eweeee— saying i've given you all the info , please release as info, please release it as quickly— info, please release it as quickly ee— info, please release it as quickly as possible . is it the quickly as possible. is it the renun— quickly as possible. is it the reality-person- quickly as possible. is it the reality person with reality that the person with eenennine — reality that the person with something-is- reality that the person with something is the one something to hide is the one wne-e— something to hide is the one wne-e-ennne- something to hide is the one who's-sitting in- who's currently sitting in downing— who's currently sitting in downing-and- who's currently sitting in downing and not downing street and not the inwweww— downing street and not the individual-was- downing street and not the individual was there not so individual who was there not so long— individual who was there not so long-i'm— individual who was there not so long-i'm patrick- individual who was there not so long i'm patrick christys long ago? i'm patrick christys on long ago? i'm patrick christys en nun— long ago? i'm patrick christys en nun wewe— long ago? i'm patrick christys on dup news, britain's

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than an hour to go now. in fact, just-halfihour to go. just about half an hour to go wnni— just about half an hour to go until-deadline- just about half an hour to go until deadline for the until the deadline for the cabinet— until the deadline for the cabinet office— until the deadline for the cabinet office to give boris nenneen-e— johnson's whatsapp messages and neneneewe— johnson's whatsapp messages and notebooks-the— johnson's whatsapp messages and notebooks the covid inquiry. notebooks to the covid inquiry. inneneenne— notebooks to the covid inquiry. interesting development right newe— interesting development right here-this— interesting development right here-this show— interesting development right here this show yesterday was here on this show yesterday was wen— here on this show yesterday was we nenneen— here on this show yesterday was that johnson says— here on this show yesterday was that johnson says that has that johnson says that he has named— that johnson says that he has handed them— that johnson says that he has handed them over to officials ene— and that they should be disclosed— and that they should be disclosed in— and that they should be disclosed in full, which has put the disclosed in full, which has put nne cabinet— disclosed in full, which has put the cabinet office— disclosed in full, which has put the cabinet office in a difficult— the cabinet office in a difficult position . the difficult position. the government- difficult position. the government could face a legal neme— government could face a legal name winn— government could face a legal battle with public inquiry battle with the public inquiry wneeei— battle with the public inquiry wneeew n— battle with the public inquiry unless it backs— battle with the public inquiry unless it backs down over a demand— unless it backs down over a demand ne— unless it backs down over a demand to disclose all this material.— demand to disclose all this material. it— demand to disclose all this material. it has— demand to disclose all this material. it has claimed inineww— material. it has claimed initially they— material. it has claimed initially they didn't have the nneeeeeee e.— initially they didn't have the messages in notebooks . well, now messages in notebooks. well, now new— messages in notebooks. well, now new eewewew— messages in notebooks. well, now they obviously do. _ messages in notebooks. well, now they obviously do. then they ene— they obviously do. then they enelweu,— they obviously do. then they said well, relevant. said, well, it's not relevant. wen,— said, well, it's not relevant. wew,|nninw— said, well, it's not relevant. well, think that's possibly well, i think that's possibly for well, i think that's possibly fen nne— well, i think that's possibly for the inquiry— well, i think that's possibly for the inquiry to decide, isn't it, for the inquiry to decide, isn't in ne— for the inquiry to decide, isn't n, we we— for the inquiry to decide, isn't it, as we build— for the inquiry to decide, isn't it, as we build up— for the inquiry to decide, isn't it, as we build up to this 4:00 newline,— it, as we build up to this 4:00 eeeewne, in— it, as we build up to this 4:00 deadline, i'm joined by gb news eewnew— deadline, i'm joined by gb news political editor— deadline, i'm joined by gb news political editor darren mccaffrey. _ political editor darren mccaffrey. darren, any news yet as mccaffrey. darren, any news yet we ne—

mccaffrey. darren, any news yet we ne wnennen— mccaffrey. darren, any news yet as to whether or— mccaffrey. darren, any news yet as to whether or not all of this nee— as to whether or not all of this nee eeen— as to whether or not all of this has been submitted? no news, nenww. — has been submitted? no news, nanny. ane— has been submitted? no news, frankly. and as— has been submitted? no news, frankly. and as you- has been submitted? no news, frankly. c frankly. and as you say, we are just over 30 minutes away from from when we, at least in theory, should find out. i mean, there's no obligation on the government to say so. but i suspect they probably will, given the fact they let us know on tuesday that there had been this hour okay. but as this 48 hour delay. okay. but as you say, rishi sunak, who is in moldova slightly moldova today, is a slightly tncky moldova today, is a slightly tricky situation , patrick, not tricky situation, patrick, not least all, because frankly, least of all, because frankly, he's going to have to decide whether these messages that bofis whether these messages that boris johnson seemingly has provided the cabinet office with should be given over unredacted to the inquiry. it's something the inquiry has repeatedly said they want to happen. baroness hallett it says it's up to her and her team to decide whether they're relevant to this covid inquiry and not to the government itself. but but. but the government can learn clearly about setting a precedent , about setting a precedent, aren't they? they're also probably concerned that these messages might be going beyond the realms of boris johnson.

they include other they might include other officials ministers are officials and ministers who are still number 10 or the still inside number 10 or the government or indeed the man who was at time. was chancellor at the time. rishi sunak all i would say, though, on the boris johnson case, is not just case, and this is not just simply johnson, but case, and this is not just sinthat johnson, but case, and this is not just sinthat i johnson, but case, and this is not just sinthat i mean,inson, but case, and this is not just sinthat i mean, wein, but case, and this is not just sinthat i mean, we are)ut on that case, i mean, we are taking his word it that he's taking his word for it that he's transferred everything over when it to whatsapp it comes to these whatsapp messages diaries. know messages and diaries. we know that the cabinet office. that with the cabinet office. but in the end, he is also gone further and says, i've got nothing to hide here, folks . further and says, i've got nothing to hide here, folks. i'm prepared these directly prepared to hand these directly over to the inquiry if they wish. circumnavigating the cabinet office. so you say a bit of a waiting game at the moment . we should hopefully have some clarity within the next hour or so. yeah, darren, can i just get a bit clarity from you, if a bit of clarity from you, if that's so these are boris that's okay? so these are boris nenneen-e— that's okay? so these are boris johnson's-messagesl that's okay? so these are boris. johnson's-messages and johnson's whatsapp messages and ennee— johnson's whatsapp messages and eeene—,— johnson's whatsapp messages and diaries,_, these- diaries, but of course, these. ere—nineen diaries, but of course, these- ere—nineen, are messages between himself, people— are messages between himself, people wne— are messages between himself, people like rishi— are messages between himself, people like rishi sunak, president— people like rishi sunak, president-,- people like rishi sunak, president , dominic cummings, president xi, dominic cummings, a president xi, dominic cummings, e-ennen— president xi, dominic cummings, e-ennen wen— president xi, dominic cummings, e-ennen very big— president xi, dominic cummings, a other very big hitters at a few other very big hitters at the a few other very big hitters at we wne— a few other very big hitters at we wne .— a few other very big hitters at the time . and— a few other very big hitters at the time . and this is, i think, the time. and this is, i think, why— the time. and this is, i think, wnw nnie— the time. and this is, i think, why this picture— the time. and this is, i think, why this picture is maybe building— why this picture is maybe building that— why this picture is maybe building that .— why this picture is maybe building that . if you take what building that. if you take what newe— building that. if you take what nene—wwwe- building that. if you take what nene—wewwe ,- building that. if you take what boris—value , he'sl boris says at face value, he's eeneenw— boris says at face value, he's

eeneeww—eui perfectly comfortable for all of he— perfectly comfortable for all of nnie-ne — perfectly comfortable for all of nnie-ne ne — perfectly comfortable for all of this-to be out— perfectly comfortable for all of this to be out there. it this stuff to be out there. it eeee— this stuff to be out there. it eeee nwie— this stuff to be out there. it does build this— this stuff to be out there. it does build this idea maybe does build this idea that maybe it's does build this idea that maybe n-e-eeeeie— does build this idea that maybe it's-people who've- does build this idea that maybe it's people who've got it's other people who've got eenennine — it's other people who've got something to _ it's other people who've got something to worry about is that wnene— something to worry about is that wnene-ew— something to worry about is that wnene-ew an— something to worry about is that where-at? at the - something to worry about is that where at? at the minute? where we're at? at the minute? wne— where we're at? at the minute? who-implicated- where we're at? at the minute? who-implicated ? - where we're at? at the minute? who implicated .7 wiggle who else is implicated? yeah, indeed.— who else is implicated? yeah, indeed. ane— who else is implicated? yeah, indeed. and that— who else is implicated? yeah, indeed. and that is what the opposition are saying today , opposition are saying today, patrick. they're claiming that if the government's got nothing to hide, why not just hand to hide, then why not just hand this all over? i think there are two play here. first two things at play here. first of is the precedent of all, it is the precedent argument kind whatsapp, this of all, it is the precedent arguiof nt kind whatsapp, this of all, it is the precedent arguiof weirdd whatsapp, this of all, it is the precedent arguiof weird medium tsapp, this of all, it is the precedent arguiof weird medium tsapp, th of kind of weird medium in terms of politics, allen's use of it. clearly it's now ubiquitous here at westminster and high politicians communicate with one another make decisions. another how they make decisions. but yet it's not an official channel. it's quite informal channel. it's quite an informal space. like minutes space. it's not like minutes taken civil servants taken by civil servants in a meeting . and so some people, meeting. and so some people, i think in government, past and present, feel a little uncomfortable about whether it really is part of the kind of record of communications. if you like. but second of all, yeah, there are big questions about what might get what other ministers might get kind of caught in all of kind of caught up in all of this. there around this. i think there are around 40 and 40 different officials and ministers effectively ministers as effectively who've communicated with boris johnson

when prime minister and when he was prime minister and where will have access to where they will have access to and that lead people and yes, that will lead people to , well, know if to say, well, you know what, if he's willing , if he is, he says he's willing, if he is, he says he's willing, if he is, he says he is if he is willing to hand all of this over unredacted, then why is anyone got a problem with it? darren thank you. darren there. gb news darren mccaffrey there. gb news eewnew— darren mccaffrey there. gb news eewnew-wne-e— darren mccaffrey there. gb news political-who's-to . darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|aical-who's-to. darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|a busy-who's-to. darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|a busy man who's to darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|a busy man today to darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|a busy man today as to darren mccaffrey there. gb news po|a busy man today as wind be a busy man today as we wind for be a busy man today as we wind fen newn— be a busy man today as we wind fen eewn nnie— be a busy man today as we wind for down this big— be a busy man today as we wind for down this big revelation eenenneww— for down this big revelation potentially anyway, it's worth reminding— potentially anyway, it's worth reminding ourselves as well that eweeeeeeiw— reminding ourselves as well that eweeeeeew, n— reminding ourselves as well that supposedly, if the _ reminding ourselves as well that supposedly, if the government went— supposedly, if the government neni swnew— supposedly, if the government rishi sunak decides not to pass wie— rishi sunak decides not to pass this information— rishi sunak decides not to pass this information over, that can newn— this information over, that can neewn in— this information over, that can neewn e. e— this information over, that can result in a court— this information over, that can result in a court case. and nnene— result in a court case. and nnene wee— result in a court case. and there was even— result in a court case. and there was even talk initially, ennewen— there was even talk initially, ennewen ene— there was even talk initially, although one would imagine that given— although one would imagine that given wen— although one would imagine that given that boris— although one would imagine that given that boris johnson is saying— given that boris johnson is saying of saying that he's provided all of he— saying that he's provided all of this information— saying that he's provided all of this information-,- saying that he's provided all of this information , there this information now, there was eenen-ne— this information now, there was even boris getting even talk of boris getting eenennine— even talk of boris getting something-a- even talk of boris getting something a 51 week prison something like a 51 week prison sentence-didn't— something like a 51 week prison sentence didn't comply , he sentence if he didn't comply, he wif— sentence if he didn't comply, he win—cemented- sentence if he didn't comply, he will—complied with will say that he's complied with it will say that he's complied with n—nnen- will say that he's complied with n—nnen eenel it. also, presumably that gets eeeeee— it. also, presumably that gets passed somebody else. but passed on to somebody else. but for passed on to somebody else. but fen-wie— passed on to somebody else. but fen-nnie etern— passed on to somebody else. but for-this story, i'm- for more on this story, i'm joined— joined by the former conservative david joined by the former— conservative-david campbell conservative mep david campbell bannerman. david— conservative mep david campbell bannerman. david great to have you bannerman. david great to have wew en— bannerman. david great to have wew en nne— bannerman. david great to have you on the show. _ bannerman. david great to have you on the show. over the phone. nnenw— you on the show. over the phone. thank-very— you on the show. over the phone. thank-very much.— you on the show. over the phone. thank very much. i've just thank you very much. i've just got— thank you very much. i've just get ne— thank you very much. i've just get ne een— thank you very much. i've just get ne new yew— thank you very much. i've just got to ask you the— thank you very much. i've just got to ask you the pretty straightforward got to ask you the pretty- straightforward _who's straightforward question who's hiding—

straightforward question who's nieine-nenee — straightforward question who's hiding here? infill e hiding what here? well, it's a very— hiding what here? well, it's a very eeen— hiding what here? well, it's a very good question, patrick, because this story started they were kind of accusing boris of not giving his whatsapp messages and diaries . and now it seems, and diaries. and now it seems, you know , he's giving you know, he's giving everything, including, i think , everything, including, i think, his post—it notes , to do the his post—it notes, to do the inquiry via the cabinet office and the problem seems to be the other ministers involved , other ministers involved, including rishi sunak himself, it seems. so it's going to be wen— it seems. so it's going to be very interesting— it seems. so it's going to be very interesting to- e so it's going to be very interesting to see what neeeene— very interesting to see what neeeene en— very interesting to see what happens at 4:00 today. “cs" e happens at 4:00 today. yeah, it is. .— happens at 4:00 today. yeah, it is. i mean— happens at 4:00 today. yeah, it is. i mean, there's— happens at 4:00 today. “cs" e i mean, there's some pretty is. i mean, there's some pretty glaring— is. i mean, there's some pretty glaring ne— i mean, there's some pretty glaring ing situations that one eene— glaring ing situations that one eewie imagine— glaring ing situations that one could imagine being incredibly damaging— could imagine being incredibly damaging fen— could imagine being incredibly damaging for rishi. the fact is wen— damaging for rishi. the fact is we even— damaging for rishi. the fact is that given what— damaging for rishi. the fact is that given what we've seen so far that given what we've seen so fen ef— that given what we've seen so fen en nne— that given what we've seen so far of the relentless flip neeenne— far of the relentless flip flopping as_ far of the relentless flip flopping as to whether or not nnew-we — flopping as to whether or not nnew-we een— flopping as to whether or not they've got these messages or wnennen— they've got these messages or wnennen en— they've got these messages or whether or not— they've got these messages or whether or not they've received nnen — whether or not they've received nnen en— whether or not they've received them or whether— whether or not they've received them or whether or not they're relevant,— them or whether or not they're relevant, etcetera,— them or whether or not they're relevant, etcetera, and then eene— relevant, etcetera, and then boris handing— relevant, etcetera, and then boris handing these over, someone is trying to hide eenennine. — someone is trying to hide something. .it- someone is trying to hide something. it would indicate something. and it would indicate that-individual— something. and it would indicate that individual doing that that the individual doing that is that the individual doing that ie—wnn— that the individual doing that is_with-mostl that the individual doing that| is_with - most to is the person with the most to wee,— is the person with the most to ieee, ene— is the person with the most to lose, and individual will lose, and that individual will eeeeww—enei possibly be rishi sunak and newn— possibly be rishi sunak and dawn, nne— possibly be rishi sunak and david, the obvious things for me weeln— david, the obvious things for me weeln eene— david, the obvious things for me weeln going ne—

david, the obvious things for me was,.it going to-up- david, the obvious things for me was, it going to up to was, is it going to play up to nie— was, is it going to play up to nie-weni — was, is it going to play up to his-rishi you- was, is it going to play up to his rishi you know, his his fishy rishi you know, meanw— his his fishy rishi you know, rnenrre-e— his his fishy rishi you know, mantra, is essentially mantra, which is essentially rner— mantra, which is essentially rner renew— mantra, which is essentially that diddy tried— mantra, which is essentially that diddy tried to stab boris renneen— that diddy tried to stab boris renneenlrne— that diddy tried to stab boris johnson the back. johnson in the back. was he reeeenernre— johnson in the back. was hei responsible _of responsible for some kind of reewne— responsible for some kind of leakingiyeah._ responsible for some kind of leaking yeah. they know leaking? yeah. did they know we— leaking? yeah. did they know that—lockdowns. leaking? yeah. did they know. that—lockdowns were that things like lockdowns were going— that things like lockdowns were eerne-eewee- that things like lockdowns were eerne-eewee e- that things like lockdowns were going-cause a bit- that things like lockdowns were going cause a bit more going to maybe cause a bit more eeneee— damage than they were going to eewe—rnere- save more lives? were there issues with the vaccine, ereereree— issues with the vaccine, etcetera? there's a issues with the vaccine, - etcetera?-there's a lot etcetera? david there's a lot we— etcetera? david there's a lot wen-eene— etcetera? david there's a lot that-come out- etcetera? david there's a lot that come out here. etcetera? david there's a lot- that-come out here. yeah, that could come out here. yeah, i that could come out here. yeah, r rnrnw— that could come out here. yeah, r think were— that could come out here. yeah, i think you're right, patrick. i mean, these are unredacted as far as we can see. so they're very eeen— far as we can see. so they're very eeen ene— far as we can see. so they're very open and the— es" so they're very open and the cabinet office re— very open and the cabinet office re re— very open and the cabinet office seems to be objecting to messages that- seems to be objecting to messages that are not directly unnee— messages that are not directly unwed .— messages that are not directly unwed . re— messages that are not directly linked . to the— messages that are not directly linked . to the inquiry, but linked. to the inquiry, but ereewnenw— linked. to the inquiry, but presumably what boris has put in zenewr— presumably what boris has put in zenewr re— presumably what boris has put in zenewr re er— presumably what boris has put in zahawi is et cetera_ presumably what boris has put in zahawi is et cetera is all very eeen— zahawi is et cetera is all very eeen ene— zahawi is et cetera is all very eeen end in— zahawi is et cetera is all very open and it will— zahawi is et cetera is all very open and it will affect quite a nwrnrne— open and it will affect quite a nwrnrne er— open and it will affect quite a number of others, including eeweere— number of others, including eeweere ee— number of others, including advisers as well— number of others, including advisers as well as ministers. ane— advisers as well as ministers. ann r— advisers as well as ministers. ann r rnrnw— advisers as well as ministers. and i think that— advisers as well as ministers. and i think that seems- advisers as well as ministers. and i think that seems to- advisers as well as ministers. and i think that seems to be what they're objecting to, though i was looking at some legal advice this morning that suggested that they can't legally a judicial review legally have a judicial review of that request, but that may be tried at 4:00 and we may get a

slight delay where a judicial review is tried out. so we'll see what happens as well. you know, what with you know, what with impeccable emine— know, what with impeccable timing, david,— know, what with impeccable timing, david, i'm going to stay winn— timing, david, i'm going to stay wrrn yew,— timing, david, i'm going to stay wrrn wen-nwe— timing, david, i'm going to stay with you,-i've just- timing, david, i'm going to stay with you, i've just had a with you, but i've just had a bit with you, but i've just had a en en— with you, but i've just had a en en were— with you, but i've just had a bit of word that— with you, but i've just had a bit of word that may actually bit of word that we may actually be bit of word that we may actually nee—went — bit of word that we may actually be_rishi sunak- be hearing from rishi sunak enenw— be hearing from rishi sunak. shortly—thought be hearing from rishi sunak- shortly_thought on shortly. so hold that thought on all shortly. so hold that thought on en en— shortly. so hold that thought on en en rnre. — shortly. so hold that thought on all of this. but— shortly. so hold that thought on all of this. but david, i called it all of this. but david, i called in weerereew. — all of this. but david, i called in weerereew. r— all of this. but david, i called it yesterday. i called it weerereew— it yesterday. i called it weerereew .— it yesterday. i called it yesterday . okay. i wonder, boris yesterday. okay. i wonder, boris renneen— yesterday. okay. i wonder, boris renneen eewe— yesterday. okay. i wonder, boris johnson says he's— yesterday. okay. i wonder, boris johnson says he's been the wenn — johnson says he's been the wenn er— johnson says he's been the victim of the— johnson says he's been the victim of the biggest stitch up ee— victim of the biggest stitch up rne— victim of the biggest stitch up since the bayeux_ victim of the biggest stitch up since the bayeux tapestry. okay. if since the bayeux tapestry. okay. n ew— since the bayeux tapestry. okay. r en en— since the bayeux tapestry. okay. if all of these— since the bayeux tapestry. okay. if all of these messages are renewed— if all of these messages are reweeree re— if all of these messages are revealed to show— if all of these messages are revealed to show that boris renneen— revealed to show that boris renneen wee— revealed to show that boris johnson was more on the side of the johnson was more on the side of we people— johnson was more on the side of we eeeere-wee— johnson was more on the side of the people-was not- johnson was more on the side of the people was not doing the people and was not doing enwrnrne— the people and was not doing. enwrnrne—ene anything wrong particularly and was anything wrong particularly and eeeeerere— anything wrong particularly and was desperate to— anything wrong particularly and was desperate to try to bring us out-lockdowns— was desperate to try to bring us out-lockdowns-of- was desperate to try to bring us out lockdowns of the out of lockdowns and all of the wine— out of lockdowns and all of the nine rner— out of lockdowns and all of the nine rner-r- out of lockdowns and all of the things that-i think- things that actually i think a lot things that actually i think a er en— things that actually i think a wee er eeeere— things that actually i think a lot of people recognise were lot of people now recognise were weree—r- lot of people now recognise were weree—r ee. - lot of people now recognise were —weere re. nwr| lot of people now recognise were wethe_to do. butl lot of people now recognise were wethe time to do. but lot of people now recognise were wethe time it to do. but lot of people now recognise were wethe time it was to do. but lot of people now recognise were wethe time it was getting). but lot of people now recognise were wethe time it was getting a but lot of people now recognise were wethe time it was getting a lot at the time it was getting a lot of at the time it was getting a lot er-eeerner,- at the time it was getting a lot of-against, okay,- at the time it was getting a lot of against, okay, if of pushback against, okay, if we— of pushback against, okay, if rnre re— of pushback against, okay, if rnre re wner— of pushback against, okay, if this is what the— of pushback against, okay, if this is what the big revelation is, this is what the big revelation re—rne- this is what the big revelation re—rne wew- this is what the big revelation re—rne wew rerl is, could it pave the way for a eene— is, could it pave the way for a boris johnson— is, could it pave the way for a boris johnson return ? : .; e boris johnson return? i wouldn't rwre— boris johnson return? i wouldn't rwre rner— boris johnson return? i wouldn't rule that out, to be honest , rule that out, to be honest, because this is, i think , because this is, i think, symptomatic of underlying coup that went on at the time. you know, this was planned- in" e you know, this was planned months in

eweneee reen— know, this was planned months in advance, ready for— know, this was planned months in advance, ready for rishi. the wenerre— advance, ready for rishi. the wenerre wee— advance, ready for rishi. the website was done at december and rerwne— website was done at december and we're talking about— website was done at december and we're talking about boris reerenrne— we're talking about boris reerenrne rn— we're talking about boris resigning in july. 'r: we're talking about boris resigning in july. r: resigning in july. and they were seem to be some activity before december, way back almost a year before. so this could all come out. actually a lot of this you know who met who and who was talking to and those internal messages which in this day and age are so well, we appear to have lost david there. but there we go. so it have lost david there. but there we 90- se rr wee— have lost david there. but there we go. so it was former- we go. so it was former conservative— we go. so it was former conservative mep david campbell—bannerman. thank you new— campbell—bannerman. thank you wen-newe— campbell—bannerman. thank you wen-newelwew- campbell—bannerman. thank you very-david..you are- very much, david. if you are erm— very much, david. if you are errrr wrrn— very much, david. if you are still with-and - very much, david. if you are still with and this is still with us. but and this is rneerrenr— important now because rishi swnew— important now because rishi sunaklbeen_ important now because rishi sunak been speaking in sunak is been speaking in wereewe— sunak is been speaking in moldova as— sunak is been speaking in moldova as he— sunak is been speaking in moldova as he joins world reeeere— moldova as he joins world reeeere er— moldova as he joins world leaders at a— moldova as he joins world leaders at a meeting of the rwreeeen— leaders at a meeting of the european political community. we can european political community. we wee— european political community. we eree rnre— european political community. we can drop into this— european political community. we can drop into this now, i think a can drop into this now, i think e neerrne— can drop into this now, i think a meeting fellow— can drop into this now, i think a meeting fellow european reeeere— a meeting fellow european reeeere er— a meeting fellow european leaders at this— a meeting fellow european leaders at this european rerrrreer— leaders at this european political community summit in men— political community summit in men er— political community summit in men er rne— political community summit in many of the challenges we face, wnerner— many of the challenges we face, wnerner rr-e— many of the challenges we face, whether it's standing to whether it's standing up to nweeren— whether it's standing up to russian aggression here in wereewe— russian aggression here in wereewe er— russian aggression here in moldova or in— russian aggression here in moldova or in ukraine, but also reewrrne— moldova or in ukraine, but also tackling illegal— moldova or in ukraine, but also tackling illegal migration in our challenges,— tackling illegal migration in our challenges, that we can only reerw— our challenges, that we can only reerw eewe— our challenges, that we can only really solve when— our challenges, that we can only really solve when work really solve when we work reeerner— really solve when we work. together-countries really solve when we work- together-countries . together with other countries. as together with other countries. res-reen— together with other countries. as - been having _ together with other countries. as - been having a - together with other countries. as-been having a series.

together with other countries. as i've been having a series of very discussions very productive discussions here to everyone's support to strengthen everyone's support for ukraine, but also to work cooperatively to tackle illegal migration, which is one of my five big priorities . one of the five big priorities. one of the neerrnee— five big priorities. one of the neerrnee yew— five big priorities. one of the meetings you had— �*" 3er one of the meetings you had prime �*" inrg one of the meetings you had prime minister, was meetings you had prime minister, wrrn— meetings you had prime minister, wrrn rne— meetings you had prime minister, was with the president of . cs" was with the president of. can we-rwrn— was with the president of. can we-rwrn n— was with the president of. can we-rwrn r we— was with the president of. can we-rwrn r we e— was with the president of. can we-turn it up a bit- was with the president of. can we-turn it up a bit? andi was with the president of. can. we-turn it up a bit? and of we just turn it up a bit? and of course we also we just turn it up a bit? and of course _we also heard| course yesterday we also heard fren— course yesterday we also heard rren rne— course yesterday we also heard from the french— course yesterday we also heard from the french president saying that from the french president saying we ne— from the french president saying we ne-rwe— from the french president saying we ne-rwe e— from the french president saying that he like a clear plan that he would like a clear plan on that he would like a clear plan en wwrerne. — that he would like a clear plan on ukraine. joining- that he would like a clear plan on ukraine. i“ g n . o on ukraine. joining nato presented next month already. do you agree with this timeline? and did you give some sort of reassurances to president zelenskyy in terms of when ukraine might be able to join nato? well, i agree with the nato? well, i agree with the nato secretary—general ukraine is rightful place is in nato. so what we're also to talking wnerne— so what we're also to talking ukraine about— so what we're also to talking ukraine about right now is newne— ukraine about right now is making ee— ukraine about right now is making sure that they have all the making sure that they have all rne eweeerr— making sure that they have all rne eweeen rnew— making sure that they have all the support they need for a eweeeeerwr— the support they need for a successful counter—offensive of er— successful counter—offensive of er rne— successful counter—offensive of one of the things— successful counter—offensive of one of the things we've recently eene — one of the things we've recently were in— one of the things we've recently were in rne — one of the things we've recently done in the uk— one of the things we've recently done in the uk is— one of the things we've recently done in the uk is provide longer renee— done in the uk is provide longer renee weeeene— done in the uk is provide longer range weapons to— done in the uk is provide longer range weapons to ukraine. we were also the— range weapons to ukraine. we were also the first country to erewee— were also the first country to provide - battle - were also the first country to provide battle tanks. i'm provide main battle tanks. i'm erewe— provide main battle tanks. i'm erewe er— provide main battle tanks. i'm erewe er rner— provide main battle tanks. i'm proud of that record and we want to proud of that record and we want re newe— proud of that record and we want re newe ee— proud of that record and we want to make sure that— proud of that record and we want to make sure that put in to make sure that we put in placer— to make sure that we put in place, secured— place, secured motty

arrangements ukraine for place, secured motty_ arrangements-ukraine for the arrangements for ukraine for the rene— arrangements for ukraine for the rene renn— arrangements for ukraine for the rene rernlrner— arrangements for ukraine for the long term that send a very long term so that we send a very errene— long term so that we send a very errene-re— long term so that we send a very strong-to vladimir- long term so that we send a very strong to vladimir putin strong signal to vladimir putin rner— strong signal to vladimir putin we we— strong signal to vladimir putin we we ee— strong signal to vladimir putin that we are not— strong signal to vladimir putin that we are not going anywhere. we that we are not going anywhere. we ee— that we are not going anywhere. we nere— that we are not going anywhere. we nere re— that we are not going anywhere. we are here to stay and we will eenrrnwe— we are here to stay and we will continue backing— we are here to stay and we will continue backing ukraine not iwer— continue backing ukraine not we new— continue backing ukraine not we nwr— continue backing ukraine not just now, but for— continue backing ukraine not just now, but for years into the rwrwre— just now, but for years into the rwrwre-ne— just now, but for years into the rwrwre-ne-re- just now, but for years into the future - he _to know| future. and he needs to know wer— future. and he needs to know wen-wir— future. and he needs to know that.-will send- future. and he needs to know that. will send that that. and we will send that erener— that. and we will send that erener er— that. and we will send that signal of support. ninn that. and we will send that signal of support. nrinn " that. and we will send that signal of support. ninn " signal of support. now, in the eeen— signal of support. now, in the past, prime minister, you've said will said that your government will have , obe, have integrity, obe, professionalism accountable professionalism and accountable motty at every level . does that motty at every level. does that mean that you're going to follow the deadline of 4 pm. london time today to comply and send andrew doyle acted messages to the covid inquiry that's taking place? well, i think it's really important that we learn the lessons of covid so that we can be better prepared in the future. and we're doing that in a future. and we're doing that in e eernr— future. and we're doing that in e eernr er— future. and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour.— future. and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour. but- ”c; and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour. but also rreneeerenew— a spirit of rigour. but also transparency and candour . we've transparency and candour. we've eeeeereree,— transparency and candour. we've eeeeereree, rne — transparency and candour. we've cooperated, the government has eeeeereree— cooperated, the government has cooperated thoroughly with the rnewrw— cooperated thoroughly with the rnewrw renew— cooperated thoroughly with the rnewrw renew ,— cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry today , handing over tens inquiry today, handing over tens of inquiry today, handing over tens er rneweenee— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of documents. and we wir— of thousands of documents. and we will continue— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to comply, of wrrn— we will continue to comply, of course, with the— we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and eeeeerere— course, with the law and cooperate with - course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry . cooperate with the inquiry. were — cooperate with the inquiry. we're confident in our position

, nwr— we're confident in our position , nwr ee— we're confident in our position , but are carefully— we're confident in our position , but are carefully considering neer— , but are carefully considering nexr ereee— , but are carefully considering nexr ereee . — , but are carefully considering next steps . and— , but are carefully considering next steps . ' r: cin next steps. and just to double check, would you be willing to take this subject to court? as i said , we've been long said, we've been long cooperating- said, we've been long cooperating with the inquiry , cooperating with the inquiry, rneerrenr— cooperating with the inquiry, important that— cooperating with the inquiry, important that we learn the reeee— important that we learn the reeee er— important that we learn the lessons of covid. so we're lessons of covid. so that we're weir—rwrwre- lessons of covid. so that we're weir—rwrwre i well prepared in the future. government's— well prepared in the future. government's considering very eererwrw— government's considering very carefully next— government's considering very carefully next steps, but it's eenrreenr— carefully next steps, but it's confident in— carefully next steps, but it's confident in its— carefully next steps, but it's confident in its position . confident in its position. okavr— confident in its position. okavr ee— confident in its position. okay, so that— confident in its position. okay, so that was- confident in its position. okay, so that was rishi sunak in moldova and it's an important conversation. okay. we heard a little bit of waffle about ukraine initially, didn't we? that's natural. seems to be that's natural. that seems to be everywhere these days. but also well, boats well, about the small boats crisis channel he is crisis in the channel he is there to get to grips there to try to get to grips with the issue more outsourced. so cracking down on people, smuggling gangs, human trafficking gangs, but also the way that the actual boats themselves get in through europe . partly it's through turkey and through bulgaria and then obviously find their way to down calais and across the channel so that's something that he's trying to do. there also, what you did hear at the end was him saying cooperating

saying he's cooperating completely, anyway, completely, pretty much anyway, with this covid inquiry. a reminder that in about 20 minutes time, it is the deadline for the cabinet office to hand over all of these unredacted whatsapps and diary entries and even post it notes, apparently of boris johnson during his time as minister. so we will be as prime minister. so we will be keeping you up to on that keeping you up to date on that as we count down to. well, i suppose could call it suppose you could call it transfer day in a transfer deadline day in a sense, couldn't you? we'll sense, couldn't you? but we'll keep all of sense, couldn't you? but we'll keep but all of sense, couldn't you? but we'll keep but should all of sense, couldn't you? but we'll keep but should inheritance that. but now should inheritance tax scrapped ? you've had tax be scrapped? you've had loads of emails on this. i'll go to little bit. but to them in a little bit. but according a group of wealthy according to a group of wealthy conservative mps it definitely conservative mps, it definitely should their should not convinced by their wealth anything do with wealth has anything to do with that. led by that. but there you go. led by nadhim former nadhim zahawi, the former conservative party chair was conservative party chair who was sacked for it. yeah. conservative party chair who was sackeihis for it. yeah. conservative party chair who was sackeihis own for it. yeah. conservative party chair who was sackeihis own tax)r it. yeah. conservative party chair who was sackeihis own tax dealingsi. conservative party chair who was sackeihis own tax dealings . okay. his own tax dealings. zahawi leads around 50 tory rebels in his demands for prime minister rishi sunak to axe the tax, describing as an unfair tax, describing it as an unfair and regressive levy. well, joining me now is our economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . and halligan with on the money. and liam , so should we scrap

liam, so should we scrap inheritance tax back in 2010? patrick george osborne, then the eneeew— patrick george osborne, then the shadow chancellor,— patrick george osborne, then the shadow chancellor, stood up at the conservative _ shadow chancellor, stood up at the conservative party conference _ the conservative party conference and said, i'm going to conference and said, i'm going re reree— conference and said, i'm going re rne— conference and said, i'm going to raise the inheritance tax rnreenere— to raise the inheritance tax threshold from _ to raise the inheritance tax threshold from £325,000 to £1 nrrrren — threshold from £325,000 to £1 nrrrren ane— threshold from £325,000 to £1 million. and the _ threshold from £325,000 to £1 million. and the tory faithful ereee— million. and the tory faithful ereee we— million. and the tory faithful ereee we ene— million. and the tory faithful stood up and clapped and eeneneew— stood up and clapped and somebody called gordon brown, wne— somebody called gordon brown, wne er— somebody called gordon brown, wne er rne— somebody called gordon brown, who at the time— somebody called gordon brown, who at the time was the prime winner,— who at the time was the prime wrnreren wee— who at the time was the prime minister, was so— who at the time was the prime minister, was so spooked by the eewer— minister, was so spooked by the eewer er— minister, was so spooked by the eewer er rnre— minister, was so spooked by the power of this policy , he that he power of this policy, he that he eerewee— power of this policy, he that he eerewee newne— power of this policy, he that he delayed having an election in wnren— delayed having an election in wnren ee— delayed having an election in which some historians think eerwerw— which some historians think actually cost— which some historians think actually cost him the chance of enerner— actually cost him the chance of enerner nwe— actually cost him the chance of another five years— actually cost him the chance of another five years in number 10. we— another five years in number 10. we re— another five years in number 10. we e e— another five years in number 10. we e e rew— another five years in number 10. this is a very politically eerenr— this is a very politically potent symbol. inheritance tax, rnewen— potent symbol. inheritance tax, rnewen r— potent symbol. inheritance tax, though i would— potent symbol. inheritance tax, though i would say personally, if though i would say personally, n yew— though i would say personally, rr wew reerw— though i would say personally, if you really want— though i would say personally, if you really want to appeal to the if you really want to appeal to rne ree— if you really want to appeal to rne ree weir— if you really want to appeal to the red wall voters right where we— the red wall voters right where this election— the red wall voters right where this election is— the red wall voters right where this election is going to be won ene— this election is going to be won ene reen— this election is going to be won ene reer, rne— this election is going to be won and lost, the tories should be rewiring— and lost, the tories should be building-council- and lost, the tories should be building council houses building more council houses rerner— building more council houses rerner rnen— building more council houses rather than about rather than talking about inheritance— rather than talking about inheritance tax because it reerw— inheritance tax because it really-brought- inheritance tax because it really brought hardly a really is brought hardly a nreere— really is brought hardly a middle class— really is brought hardly a middle class problem . why is it middle class problem. why is it a middle class problem. why is it e nreere— middle class problem. why is it a middle class— middle class problem. why is it a middle class problem? well rere— a middle class problem? well rer-e—er- a middle class problem? well rer-e—er rne- a middle class problem? well. let's—at the numbers let's have a look at the numbers we pay— let's have a look at the numbers we pay inheritance— let's have a look at the numbers we pay inheritance tax in this eewnrw— we pay inheritance tax in this eewnrrw en— we pay inheritance tax in this eewnrrw en en— we pay inheritance tax in this country on 44, a— we pay inheritance tax in this country on 44, a rate of 40% over a threshold— country on 44, a rate of 40% over a threshold of £325,000.

rnere— over a threshold of £325,000. rnere n— over a threshold of £325,000. rnere rr re— over a threshold of £325,000. rnere r e .— over a threshold of £325,000. there it is . and— over a threshold of £325,000. there it is . and it's 40% over there it is. and it's 40% over we— there it is. and it's 40% over the £500,000. _ there it is. and it's 40% over the £500,000. if— there it is. and it's 40% over the £500,000. if you're leaving wewr— the £500,000. if you're leaving wewr wee— the £500,000. if you're leaving wewr were we— the £500,000. if you're leaving your kids, the family home. but eeweree— your kids, the family home. but eeweree een— your kids, the family home. but couples can combine their eewenrreee — couples can combine their allowances. so— couples can combine their allowances. so if you've got a couple— allowances. so if you've got a eewere wne— allowances. so if you've got a couple who own— allowances. so if you've got a couple who own a— allowances. so if you've got a couple who own a family home reewne— couple who own a family home reewne n— couple who own a family home reewne rr re— couple who own a family home leaving it to their— couple who own a family home leaving it to their kids , then leaving it to their kids, then we— leaving it to their kids, then rnew een— leaving it to their kids, then they can combine their £500,000 eewenrreee — they can combine their £500,000 allowances. and _ they can combine their £500,000 allowances. and that's how you get allowances. and that's how you eer re— allowances. and that's how you oer re wewr— allowances. and that's how you get to your million pound henna,— get to your million pound threshold, which osborne was rerwne — threshold, which osborne was talking about.— threshold, which osborne was talking about. all those years eee. — talking about. all those years we rnere-e— talking about. all those years ago. there's also— talking about. all those years ago. there's also this thing eewee— ago. there's also this thing called-seven- ago. there's also this thing called seven rule, called the seven year rule, wnren— called the seven year rule, wnren ee— called the seven year rule, which as long— called the seven year rule, which as long as you give away wewr— which as long as you give away wewr eeeere— which as long as you give away wewr eeeere ,— which as long as you give away your assets , property shares and your assets, property shares and rnen— your assets, property shares and rnen yew— your assets, property shares and rnen wew nwe— your assets, property shares and then you live for— your assets, property shares and then you live for another seven weene— then you live for another seven weere n— then you live for another seven years, it doesn't— then you live for another seven years, it doesn't count as part of years, it doesn't count as part er wewr— years, it doesn't count as part of your estate.— years, it doesn't count as part of your estate. so— years, it doesn't count as part of your estate. so your descent , rr-e— of your estate. so your descent , rr-e wee.— of your estate. so your descent , it's kids. grandkids don't pay rnnenree— , it's kids. grandkids don't pay inherited tax. _ , it's kids. grandkids don't pay inherited tax. look in the renee— inherited tax. look in the tories these— inherited tax. look in the tories these numbers to a lot of gb tories these numbers to a lot of en wewe— tories these numbers to a lot of gb news viewers— tories these numbers to a lot of gb news viewers and listeners, rnew-rr— gb news viewers and listeners, rnew-rr nwer— gb news viewers and listeners, rnew-rr we re— gb news viewers and listeners, they'll just be completely otherworldly. _ they'll just be completely otherworldly. what do you mean? a newee— otherworldly. what do you mean? a newee wenn— otherworldly. what do you mean? a house worth 325— otherworldly. what do you mean? a house worth 325 grand? yeah rnere— a house worth 325 grand? yeah rnere ee— a house worth 325 grand? yeah there are figures— a house worth 325 grand? yeah there are figures out from the nerrenwree— there are figures out from the nationwide today— there are figures out from the nationwide today showing that the nationwide today showing that rne—re- the average house price is eeweee. — the average house price is £267,000. in— the average house price is £267,000. in bradford , the £267,000. in bradford, the ewreeee— £267,000. in bradford, the average house _ £267,000. in bradford, the average house price is £100,000 for average house price is £100,000 rer e— average house price is £100,000 rer e rnree— average house price is £100,000 for a three bedroomed house. so we— for a three bedroomed house. so rnre enrw— for a three bedroomed house. so rnre enrw reerrw— for a three bedroomed house. so this only really affects certain eene— this only really affects certain eerre er— this only really affects certain eerre er rne— this only really affects certain parts of the country. but among

eeeere— parts of the country. but among eeeere wne— parts of the country. but among eeeere wne ee— parts of the country. but among people who are caught in the inheritance— people who are caught in the inheritance tax— people who are caught in the inheritance tax net and it's erren— inheritance tax net and it's erren eeeere— inheritance tax net and it's often people leaving just one renrrw— often people leaving just one renrrw neme— often people leaving just one family home, that might be worth a family home, that might be worth e err— family home, that might be worth e err mere— family home, that might be worth e err rnew— family home, that might be worth a bit more. they really don't awe— a bit more. they really don't we we— a bit more. they really don't like this tax— a bit more. they really don't like this tax because of course wew-we — like this tax because of course wew-we eere— like this tax because of course wew-we eere rer— like this tax because of course you've paid for your house, wew-we— you've paid for your house, you've weathered your mortgage out you've weathered your mortgage ewr er— you've weathered your mortgage ewr er rneerne— you've weathered your mortgage out of income that— you've weathered your mortgage out of income that you've erreeew— out of income that you've erreeew eere— out of income that you've already paid tax on. so it's awe— already paid tax on. so it's me e— already paid tax on. so it's like a double— already paid tax on. so it's like a double tax . it's a death like a double tax. it's a death rew— like a double tax. it's a death rea. reeere— like a double tax. it's a death tax. people like— like a double tax. it's a death tax. people like zahawi call it. we— tax. people like zahawi call it. we e— tax. people like zahawi call it. we e reerrw— tax. people like zahawi call it. it's a really kind— tax. people like zahawi call it. it's a really kind of philosophical thing. priti eeren— philosophical thing. priti patel, jacob— philosophical thing. priti patel, jacob rees—mogg , nadhim patel, jacob rees—mogg, nadhim zenewr— patel, jacob rees—mogg, nadhim zenewr rneee— patel, jacob rees—mogg, nadhim zahawi those on— patel, jacob rees—mogg, nadhim zahawi those on the sort of nonr— zahawi those on the sort of nenr er— zahawi those on the sort of nenr er rne— zahawi those on the sort of right of the tory- zahawi those on the sort of right of the tory party they're the right of the tory party they're rne enee— right of the tory party they're the ones who _ right of the tory party they're the ones who really don't like we— the ones who really don't like rnre rew— the ones who really don't like rnre rea ene— the ones who really don't like this tax and that's why they've rewnenee— this tax and that's why they've launched this— this tax and that's why they've launched this campaign. there are launched this campaign. there so— launched this campaign. there so er— launched this campaign. there are 50 of them.— launched this campaign. there are 50 of them. they're eeneeienino- are 50 of them. they're campaigning, pushing sunak and nwnr— campaigning, pushing sunak and we re— campaigning, pushing sunak and we re re— campaigning, pushing sunak and we re rrw ene— campaigning, pushing sunak and hunt to try and get rid of inheritance— hunt to try and get rid of inheritance tax. but inheritance tax inheritance tax. but inheritance rea rreeee— inheritance tax. but inheritance tax raises about— inheritance tax. but inheritance tax raises about £7 billion a weer— tax raises about £7 billion a weer ene— tax raises about £7 billion a weer end we— tax raises about £7 billion a year and the treasury says we need— year and the treasury says we need rner— year and the treasury says we need we a7— year and the treasury says we need that £7 billion to pay for neerrn— need that £7 billion to pay for health, education— need that £7 billion to pay for health, education and all the reer— health, education and all the reer er— health, education and all the reer er fr.— health, education and all the rest of it. yeah— health, education and all the rest of it. yeah absolutely. i mean, you could— rest of it. yeah absolutely. i mean, you could argue- rest of it. yeah absolutely. i mean, you could argue that there's a question ambition there's a question of ambition here, personal here. here, personal ambition here. the of that £325,000 house, the idea of that £325,000 house, like you've rightly said. so a lot of people that's way out of reach, but it might not be in ten time. it might not be

ten years time. it might not be house prices. and this threshold,— c and this threshold, £325,000 threshold, the £325,000 threshold, _ threshold, the £325,000. threshold, _frozen threshold, the £325,000- threshold,-frozen by threshold, it's been frozen by nwnr— threshold, it's been frozen by we re— threshold, it's been frozen by hunt to 2028. _ threshold, it's been frozen by hunt to 2028. there you go. so if rer— hunt to 2028. there you go. so if rea rr— hunt to 2028. there you go. so if tax if house— hunt to 2028. there you go. so if tax if house prices go up, rnew-we— if tax if house prices go up, rnew-we eene— if tax if house prices go up, they've come down a little bit over recent months. but if they keep— over recent months. but if they keep eene— over recent months. but if they keep going upr— over recent months. but if they keep going ”p as_ over recent months. but if they keep going up, as they generally rene— keep going up, as they generally rene re— keep going up, as they generally rene re re— keep going up, as they generally tend to do over— keep going up, as they generally tend to do over the medium and rene— tend to do over the medium and rene-rnew-re— tend to do over the medium and long-they're more- tend to do over the medium and long they're more and more long term, they're more and more eeeere— long term, they're more and more eeeere wir— long term, they're more and more people will-brought- long term, they're more and more people will brought that people will be brought into that tax people will be brought into that rea—eree- people will be brought into that tax—also that- tax net. and it's also that question fairness, like question of basic fairness, like you there well . you identified there as well. you the system your you pay into the system your entire . you can end entire life. you can end up paying entire life. you can end up paying heck lot of tax paying a heck of a lot of tax your and the tax your entire life. and the tax burden going up, not burden seems to be going up, not down moment. and then down at the moment. and then when and you've when you die and you've got family around that would family around you that you would you've your you've worked all your life, tried future then tried to build a future and then wallop, of that goes. it wallop, 40% of that goes. it just seems a bit unfair. there aren't powerful aren't many more powerful instincts that human beings have that all species have than wanting to help their offspring, wanting to help their offspring, wanting to help their offspring, wanting to help their kids. this up and down the this is right up and down the enrner— this is right up and down the miner-,— this is right up and down the animal , obviously. animal kingdom, obviously. so the animal kingdom, obviously. so rne-rner— animal kingdom, obviously. so the .that when— animal kingdom, obviously. so the that when you are the idea that when you are giving— the idea that when you are giving wew— the idea that when you are giving your hard earned assets to giving your hard earned assets re wew— giving your hard earned assets re wewr wee— giving your hard earned assets to your kids, to— giving your hard earned assets to your kids, to your grandkids as to your kids, to your grandkids eelie— to your kids, to your grandkids ee-ere, rner— to your kids, to your grandkids as-die, that the- to your kids, to your grandkids as die, that the tax man as you die, that the tax man comes in and— as you die, that the tax man comes in and takes 40, it does erren— comes in and takes 40, it does erren r..— comes in and takes 40, it does erren in we— comes in and takes 40, it does stick in the craw— comes in and takes 40, it does stick in the craw of— comes in and takes 40, it does

stick in the craw of a lot of eeene.— stick in the craw of a lot of eeeere. ane— stick in the craw of a lot of people. and these conservatives stick in the craw of a lot of peotryingid these conservatives stick in the craw of a lot of peotrying to these conservatives stick in the craw of a lot of peotrying to thes into nservatives stick in the craw of a lot of peotrying to thesinto that,itives are trying to tap into that, rrwrne— are trying to tap into that, rrwrne re— are trying to tap into that, trying to galvanise the kind of errenern— trying to galvanise the kind of errenern rr— trying to galvanise the kind of strength, if you _ trying to galvanise the kind of strength, if you like, of sunak ene— strength, if you like, of sunak ene nwe,— strength, if you like, of sunak and hunt, trying— strength, if you like, of sunak and hunt, trying to say to them, reen— and hunt, trying to say to them, reek, ee— and hunt, trying to say to them, reek, wew— and hunt, trying to say to them, look, are you really— look, are you really conservatives? because there's nernrne— conservatives? because there's nernrne-reee— conservatives? because there's nothing less conservative nothing that's less conservative rnen— nothing that's less conservative rnen high— nothing that's less conservative than high inheritance tax. but neree— than high inheritance tax. but here's one final— than high inheritance tax. but here's one final thought. the wine— here's one final thought. the thing inheritance tax, the thing about inheritance tax, the way— thing about inheritance tax, the wew—renne- thing about inheritance tax, the wew—renee re- thing about inheritance tax, the way—tends to be- way it works, it tends to be eeeere— way it works, it tends to be eeeere wrrn— way it works, it tends to be eeeere wrrn e— way it works, it tends to be people with a little bit of weerrn— people with a little bit of wealth who _ people with a little bit of wealth who caught. wealth who get caught. the reerrw— wealth who get caught. the really wealthy _ wealth who get caught. the really wealthy ,— wealth who get caught. the really wealthy , those with really wealthy, those with rreenw— really wealthy, those with flashy accountants and lawyers can use trusts— flashy accountants and lawyers can use trusts .— flashy accountants and lawyers can use trusts . they can buy can use trusts. they can buy renn— can use trusts. they can buy land, rnew— can use trusts. they can buy land, they can— can use trusts. they can buy land, they can buy all kinds of rnrnee— land, they can buy all kinds of rnrnee re— land, they can buy all kinds of rnrnee re rrw— land, they can buy all kinds of things to try and— land, they can buy all kinds of things to try and get around inheritance— things to try and get around inheritance tax— things to try and get around inheritance tax thresholds. things to try and get around inheri so ce tax thresholds. things to try and get around inheri so it tax thresholds. things to try and get around inheri so it does hresholds. things to try and get around inheri so it does seemwlds. things to try and get around inheri so it does seem to s. things to try and get around inheri so it does seem to be yeah. so it does seem to be eenernrne— yeah. so it does seem to be something catches people, something that catches people, eerenee— something that catches people, catches families— something that catches people, catches families where it's the finer— catches families where it's the first generation _ catches families where it's the first generation that's actually neneeee— first generation that's actually managed-make— first generation that's actually managed make wealth. managed to make some wealth. rnew-re— managed to make some wealth. were we— managed to make some wealth. they're the ones— managed to make some wealth. they're the ones that get nenneree. — they're the ones that get hammered. and think there's hammered. and i think there's eenernrne— hammered. and i think there's something zahawi saying something in what zahawi saying nere— something in what zahawi saying here. whatever— something in what zahawi saying here. whatever-tax- here. whatever his own tax errerre — here. whatever his own tax errerre ne — here. whatever his own tax affairs, he denies wrongdoing. by affairs, he denies wrongdoing. bar-wav— affairs, he denies wrongdoing. pry-way ,— affairs, he denies wrongdoing. by-wav , rnere-e- affairs, he denies wrongdoing. by way , there's something in by the way, there's something in this by the way, there's something in rnre-rr-e— by the way, there's something in rnre-rr-e rner— by the way, there's something in this-it's that sort— by the way, there's something in this-it's that sort of- this that it's that sort of nwer— this that it's that sort of first generation of professional eeeer— first generation of professional class, relatively— first generation of professional class, relatively wealthy people we— class, relatively wealthy people we we— class, relatively wealthy people that the conservatives really enewre— that the conservatives really enewre ne— that the conservatives really should be backing . okay. i also should be backing. okay. i also rnrnw— should be backing. okay. i also new rr— should be backing. okay. i also new if r— should be backing. okay. i also think if i was— should be backing. okay. i also think if i was advising the conservatives, _ think if i was advising the conservatives, i- think if i was advising the conservatives, i would say for ewerwrnrne— conservatives, i would say for

ewerwrnrne wew— conservatives, i would say for everything you about everything you say about inheritance— everything you say about inheritance tax, you should be eewne— inheritance tax, you should be eewrne-rnrnee- inheritance tax, you should be saying things about saying 3 or 4 things about rrwrne— saying 3 or 4 things about rrwrneleer— saying 3 or 4 things about trying get people on the trying to get people on the newerne— trying to get people on the housing ladder— trying to get people on the housing ladder the first housing ladder in the first placer— housing ladder in the first ereee-er- housing ladder in the first place,-at the. housing ladder in the first. place,-at the lower, place, not least at the lower, more vulnerable— place, not least at the lower, more vulnerable end of thei incomesocia—t income spectrum with social housing— income spectrum with social housing privately housing as well as privately owned— housing as well as privately owned-vou- housing as well as privately- owned _you mentioned owned housing. you mentioned that at the that inheritance tax at the moment around £7 billion moment raises around £7 billion a for the treasury . but a year for the treasury. but would there be an argument to say that if you didn't have an inheritance tax for people and that into that money was just left into the to flush itself the economy to flush itself around that actually might grow the economy more .7 that is the economy even more.7 that is the economy even more.7 that is the argument the economy even more? that is the argument with— the economy even more? that is the argument with all— f " , that is the argument with all taxation . the argument with all taxation. i the argument with all taxation. l-53y_ the argument with all taxation. i-say-definitely- i would say that definitely app“..— i would say that definitely applies corporation tax, applies to corporation tax, corporation — applies to corporation tax, corporation we've corporation tax. as we've discussed— corporation tax. as we've discussedihas- corporation tax. as we've discussed has gone up from 19 discussed, has gone up from 19 to mo— discussed, has gone up from 19 to 25% oo— discussed, has gone up from 19 to 25% at tho— discussed, has gone up from 19 to 25% at the spring. i would say— to 25% at the spring. i would so moo— to 25% at the spring. i would soy that oo— to 25% at the spring. i would say that at absolutely raises loos— say that at absolutely raises less revenue— say that at absolutely raises less revenue overall because moo— less revenue overall because that toot— less revenue overall because that does hit— less revenue overall because that does hit growth. that does tttmo— that does hit growth. that does mean firms don't— that does hit growth. that does mean firms don't reinvest. it toot— mean firms don't reinvest. it does mean that— mean firms don't reinvest. it does mean that companies, some comptcc— does mean that companies, some comoptccp wttt— does mean that companies, some companies will fail— does mean that companies, some companies will fail altogether ont— companies will fail altogether opt thon— companies will fail altogether and then their— companies will fail altogether and then their employees won't be and then their employees won't to poytpg— and then their employees won't to poytpp tpcomc— and then their employees won't be paying income tax and nottonot— be paying income tax and national insurance . so national insurance. so corporation- national insurance. so corporation tax is definitely tox— corporation tax is definitely one tax where— corporation tax is definitely one tax where i— corporation tax is definitely one tax where i think a higher roto— one tax where i think a higher rate means you _ one tax where i think a higher rate means you have less revenue

ont— rate means you have less revenue opt tccc— rate means you have less revenue opt tccc growth— rate means you have less revenue and less growth overall. i think that— and less growth overall. i think that oppttcc— and less growth overall. i think that oppttcc to— and less growth overall. i think that applies to a— and less growth overall. i think that applies to a lesser extent wttt— that applies to a lesser extent with inheritance— that applies to a lesser extent with inheritance tax, but still to come— with inheritance tax, but still to some degree— with inheritance tax, but still to some degree it's just a scooter— to some degree it's just a smaller tax— to some degree it's just a smaller tax overall , though, it smaller tax overall, though, it is smaller tax overall, though, it to on— smaller tax overall, though, it to on tcontc— smaller tax overall, though, it is an iconic tax.— smaller tax overall, though, it is an iconic tax. it's a it's a totcmtc— is an iconic tax. it's a it's a totcmtc tox— is an iconic tax. it's a it's a totemic tax because so many conccwottvcc— totemic tax because so many conservatives find it philosophically. so objectionable in many, many surveyo— objectionable in many, many cuwcyc ,— objectionable in many, many cuwcyc , tt— objectionable in many, many surveys , it comes up as the most surveys, it comes up as the most totct— surveys, it comes up as the most totct tox— surveys, it comes up as the most hated to ot— surveys, it comes up as the most hated tax of all— surveys, it comes up as the most hated tax of all alongside fuel duty.— hated tax of all alongside fuel tuty. otvtopcty— hated tax of all alongside fuel duty. obviously _ hated tax of all alongside fuel duty. obviously i— hated tax of all alongside fuel duty. obviously tap?" hated tax of all alongside fuel duty. obviously tit?“ duty. obviously i can believe that. absolutely. and i think it just comes down to a question as well of inaya isolation, not necessarily the most important thing for people at the moment. that's right. but you are that's right. but if you are presented a straightforward presented with a straightforward opfion presented with a straightforward option voter between option as a voter for between voting a party that is going voting for a party that is going to inheritance tax or to scrap inheritance tax or voting party that , as it voting for a party that, as it stands, wants to take about 40% of you off of everything you own off you when die your relatives, when you die and your relatives, you probably are going vote you probably are going to vote for just naturally. for the party just naturally. i would have thought that would not that some not want to do that in some constituencies. let's think about— constituencies. let's think about-tn- constituencies. let's think about - in the - constituencies. let's think about-in the ini constituencies. let's think. about-in the in the about the tories in the in the cot— about the tories in the in the cot watt.— about the tories in the in the red wall. the— about the tories in the in the red wall. the tories taking red wall. the tories are taking on-ttgttt— red wall. the tories are taking on-right?.they- red wall. the tories are taking on right.7 they have on labour, right.7 so they have to-to— on labour, right.7 so they have to-to ,— on labour, right.7 so they have to-to , to— on labour, right.7 so they have to-to , to frankly,- on labour, right.7 so they have to to , to frankly, with to appeal to, to frankly, with all to appeal to, to frankly, with at tccpcct— to appeal to, to frankly, with at tccpcct ,— to appeal to, to frankly, with all respect , lower income all respect, lower income households,—

all respect, lower income households, vulnerable households, more vulnerable toucctottc— households, more vulnerable households. that's when you want to to— households. that's when you want to to totttng— households. that's when you want to be talking council tax. to be talking about council tax. tut— to be talking about council tax. outlo— to be talking about council tax. tutlo tot— to be talking about council tax. tutlo tot ot— to be talking about council tax. but-a lot of seats— to be talking about council tax. but a lot of seats the tories but in a lot of seats the tories tattoo— but in a lot of seats the tories tattoo-tho— but in a lot of seats the tories are taking-the lib- but in a lot of seats the tories are taking the lib dems. lib are taking on the lib dems. lib dem— are taking on the lib dems. lib dem vctcot— are taking on the lib dems. lib dem voters who— are taking on the lib dems. lib dem voters who often have big touccc — dem voters who often have big touccc ttcy— dem voters who often have big houses. they speak very otttuoucty— houses. they speak very otttuoucty ,— houses. they speak very virtuously , but a lot of it is virtuously, but a lot of it is about— virtuously, but a lot of it is about their— virtuously, but a lot of it is about their own— virtuously, but a lot of it is about their own cash . sorry, about their own cash. sorry, to— about their own cash. sorry, to true. — about their own cash. sorry, it's true. and _ about their own cash. sorry, it's true. and it's- about their own cash. sorry, it's true. and it's in those ttnt— it's true. and it's in those ttnt ot— it's true. and it's in those kind of seats,— it's true. and it's in those kind of seats, you know, posh woot— kind of seats, you know, posh west-tho— kind of seats, you know, poshi west-the _country west london, the west country where— west london, the west country where the — west london, the west country where the lib— west london, the west country where the lib dems do really wett— where the lib dems do really wctt .— where the lib dems do really wctt . ttc— where the lib dems do really well . the london commuter belt, well. the london commuter belt, toot-c— well. the london commuter belt, ttot-c wtctc— well. the london commuter belt, that's where you— well. the london commuter belt, that's where you want to be coytng — that's where you want to be coytpp to — that's where you want to be coytpp to-o- that's where you want to be coytpp to-o tot- that's where you want to be saying to a lot of tories saying to tories a lot of tories who— saying to tories a lot of tories who to— saying to tories a lot of tories who really— saying to tories a lot of tories who are really upset with the conservative— who are really upset with the conservative upset with conservative party upset with johnson,— conservative party upset with johnsont ppcct— conservative party upset with johnson, upset certainly with jeremy— johnson, upset certainly with jeremy hunt— johnson, upset certainly with jeremy hunt and rishi sunak you wont— jeremy hunt and rishi sunak you wont to— jeremy hunt and rishi sunak you wont to to— jeremy hunt and rishi sunak you want to be whispering in their eart— want to be whispering in their votc tot— want to be whispering in their ear, vote for us— want to be whispering in their ear, vote for us and we'll raise the— ear, vote for us and we'll raise the inheritance— ear, vote for us and we'll raise the inheritance tax— ear, vote for us and we'll raise the inheritance tax threshold, comctttno — the inheritance tax threshold, something the _ the inheritance tax threshold, something the lib won't do. something the lib dems won't do. that-c— something the lib dems won't do. ttot-c—tttc- that's probably where this pottttcot— that's probably where this. political—going. political thinking is going. mom.— political thinking is going. moot-you— political thinking is going. liam,-you.ever. i political thinking is going. l liam,-you.ever. liam liam, thank you as ever. liam halligan there, our economics and where and business editor. where are you the have you on this? the emails have been in. i thought i'd been coming in. i thought i'd get and it get you going and it has actually gb news actually gb views at gb news .com . when is this government .com. when is this government going to give back our hard earned money? says philip . earned money? says philip. there's a lot of this. my adult child and grandchildren live

with us if we die , they would be with us if we die, they would be homeless at the moment . so there homeless at the moment. so there you go. i suppose they say they obviously want to keep on to things. i disagree it's things. i disagree that it's a middle they middle class problem. they abolished australia many abolished it in australia many years ago in the building. trade grew by 20. enough, mitch. grew by 20. fair enough, mitch. there's grew by 20. fair enough, mitch. tialso, course, lot about is also, of course, a lot about our story, which oh, how our big story, which is, oh, how long? 15 minutes away now apparently from the deadline passing for the cabinet office to give johnson's whatsapp to give boris johnson's whatsapp messages and to the messages and diaries to the covid . i do not want you covid inquiry. i do not want you all a single second all to think for a single second that this is just some kind of westminster bubble story, the likes get on westminster bubble story, the like bbc. get on westminster bubble story, the like bbc. because get on westminster bubble story, the likebbc. because really, on westminster bubble story, the like bbc. because really, for the bbc. no, because really, for me, question is who's me, the big question is who's hiding doesn't hiding what? and it doesn't appear boris johnson. we appear to be boris johnson. we had a former tory mep on moments ago was saying this could be ago who was saying this could be the time boris comes back the time that boris comes back into popularity. he doesn't see him. maybe paves the way him. boris maybe paves the way for return to downing street for a return to downing street if whatsapp if indeed these whatsapp messages and these diary entries, etcetera appear show entries, etcetera appear to show that johnson was unfairly that boris johnson was unfairly outed, might been on outed, but he might have been on the of history and the right side of history and that have that there might have been a stitch up going good stitch up going on then. good

grief. is it any wonder that it's squeaky time for sunak it's squeaky bum time for sunak and handed and co? but if it isn't handed overin and co? but if it isn't handed over in about 15 minutes, time is rishi sunak willing to go to court over this? i'm patrick christys on gb news

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the much on them and not enough on tho pcoptc— much on them and not enough on tho pcoptc who— much on them and not enough on the people who are— much on them and not enough on the people who are already here? the the people who are already here? the wt— the people who are already here? the row having— the people who are already here? the raf having to— the people who are already here? the raf having to pay out loads of the raf having to pay out loads ot money— the raf having to pay out loads ot money to— the raf having to pay out loads of money to people over a ttttcwtowc— of money to people over a ridiculous and— of money to people over a ridiculous and disastrous ttwctcttw— ridiculous and disastrous diversity drive- ridiculous and disastrous diversity drive that actually, tcttcwc— diversity drive that actually, tcttcwc tt— diversity drive that actually, believe it or— diversity drive that actually, believe it or not, seemed to disenfranchise— believe it or not, seemed to disenfranchise deliberately . so disenfranchise deliberately. so if disenfranchise deliberately. so tt wow — disenfranchise deliberately. so if you believe— disenfranchise deliberately. so if you believe the reports white pcoptc. — if you believe the reports white pcoptc. thoro— if you believe the reports white people. there you— if you believe the reports white people. there you go. who cares what— people. there you go. who cares what coowt— people. there you go. who cares what colour the— people. there you go. who cares what colour the person flying our what colour the person flying tot— what colour the person flying ttat tots— what colour the person flying our raf jets are— what colour the person flying our raf jets are really? as long as our raf jets are really? as long to they— our raf jets are really? as long to they know— our raf jets are really? as long as they know where to drop the tombs. — as they know where to drop the tombs. tut— as they know where to drop the bombs. but there _ as they know where to drop the bombs. but there we are. and lee antctcon— bombs. but there we are. and lee antctcon wttt— bombs. but there we are. and lee anderson will be— bombs. but there we are. and lee anderson will be coming. your bombs. but there we are. and lee and

wttt— lessons that need to be learned wttt te— lessons that need to be learned will be learned.— lessons that need to be learned will be learned. whilst details are will be learned. whilst details etttt— will be learned. whilst details are still emerging about what happened.— are still emerging about what happened, dorset police have cott— happened, dorset police have cott o— happened, dorset police have cott o totot— happened, dorset police have said a total of— happened, dorset police have said a total of ten people were pwttet— said a total of ten people were pwttet trom — said a total of ten people were pulled from the— said a total of ten people were pulled from the water and it's cteor— pulled from the water and it's cteor trot— pulled from the water and it's clear that yesterday a number of peopte— clear that yesterday a number of peopte otreotw— clear that yesterday a number of peopte already m— clear that yesterday a number of people already in the water got two— people already in the water got into difficulty— people already in the water got into difficulty and— people already in the water got into difficulty and we are investigating— into difficulty and we are investigating the circumstance orewemt— investigating the circumstance orewemtttot— investigating the circumstance or event that caused that to topper— or event that caused that to happen . — or event that caused that to happen . early— or event that caused that to happen . pkg git. tit“ happen. early investigation indicates that there was no physical contact between a vessel and any of the swimmers at the time of the incident. i can also confirm there is no suggestion of people jumping from the pier or jet skis being involved. tragic from the pier or jet skis being involved . tragic incident. i'm involved. tragic incident. i'm going— involved. tragic incident. i'm going to— involved. tragic incident. i'm going to tote— involved. tragic incident. i'm going to take you— : tragic incident. i'm going to take you over to bournemouth— going to take you over to bournemouth beach now with our south— bournemouth beach now with our sowtt tect— bournemouth beach now with our south east england reporter ray atttcom— south east england reporter ray atttcom toe.— south east england reporter ray addison rae. what is the latest trom— addison rae. what is the latest trom tre— addison rae. what is the latest from the scene— addison rae. what is the latest from the scene .— addison rae. what is the latest from the scene . _ addison rae. what is the latest from the scene . “43?" g: from the scene. yeah, good afternoon, patrick. well the police have said that the members of the public who were on bournemouth beach yesterday afternoon absolutely . okay .

afternoon absolutely. okay. okay. all right. unfortunately, we raised connection people there. that's. that's all right. we'll park that there we'll we'll park that there and we'll go as and we go back to ray as and when we can the from can for the latest from bournemouth but the bournemouth beach. but the deadune bournemouth beach. but the deadline the cabinet deadline for the cabinet office to boris johnson's whatsapp to give boris johnson's whatsapp messages the messages and notebooks to the covid inquiry is fast approaching . this been approaching. this has been a fast story because pretty fast moving story because pretty much time yesterday it much this time yesterday it looked though there might looked as though there might have skulduggery going looked as though there might have boris skulduggery going looked as though there might have boris johnson|lduggery going looked as though there might have boris johnson saying,y going looked as though there might have boris johnson saying, wellng on by boris johnson saying, well , look chaps, i'm not going to give detail and give you all of this detail and then statement comes then wallop the statement comes out spokesman for boris out from a spokesman for boris johnson what, out from a spokesman for boris johncabinet what, out from a spokesman for boris johncabinet office what, out from a spokesman for boris johncabinet office has what, out from a spokesman for boris johncabinet office has got what, out from a spokesman for boris johncabinet office has got allt, the cabinet office has got all of my unredacted whatsapps . it's of my unredacted whatsapps. it's got of my diary entries . it got all of my diary entries. it is the new prime is now up to the new prime minister and the cabinet office to hand those over, which, of course, the questions. course, sparks the questions. hang minute, rishi. what hang on a minute, rishi. what are hiding? johnson has are you hiding? johnson has handed them officials handed them over to officials and should be and said they should be disclosed urgently and the government could face a legal battle with the public inquiry unless it backs down over a demand to disclose the material . one thing i must say i found

fascinating was the media frenzy over will boris johnson goes to prison , will this happen? and prison, will this happen? and the second boris johnson says, well, actually i've released everything to the office everything to the cabinet office and up them one and it's up to them now. no one seems the question, seems to be asking the question, hang minute, who currently seems to be asking the question, ha downing�*ninute, who currently seems to be asking the question, ha downing street, who currently seems to be asking the question, ha downing street isiho currently seems to be asking the question, ha downing street is actually ntly in downing street is actually hiding something? could be in downing street is actually hidinthe)mething? could be in downing street is actually hidinthelockdowns?ould be in downing street is actually hidinthe lockdowns? could be in downing street is actually hidinthe lockdowns? could ite in downing street is actually hidinthe lockdowns? could it be over the lockdowns? could it be over the lockdowns? could it be over could over the economic issue? could it over the vaccine issue? it be over the vaccine issue? could over? trying to could it be over? trying to stitch boris johnson up and indeed i've olivia indeed oust him? i've got olivia utley with our political utley with me now. our political reporter. on earth reporter. olivia, what on earth is ? well, rishi sunak is happening? well, rishi sunak has is happening? well, rishi sunak too wet— is happening? well, rishi sunak tree twet mote— is happening? well, rishi sunak has just made a— "cd? well, rishi sunak has just made a statement which toeem-t— has just made a statement which toecm-t rwte— has just made a statement which doesn't rule out— has just made a statement which doesn't rule out the government torme— doesn't rule out the government totmp tepot— doesn't rule out the government taking legal action over the request— taking legal action over the request ot— taking legal action over the request of covid inquiry to cwtmtt— request of covid inquiry to submit this— request of covid inquiry to submit this evidence . which submit this evidence. which suggeste— submit this evidence. which ewggeete to— submit this evidence. which suggests to me— submit this evidence. which suggests to me that the prime ttmteter— suggests to me that the prime ttmtcter mt— suggests to me that the prime minister and the— suggests to me that the prime minister and the cabinet office rent— minister and the cabinet office oremt ptommg— minister and the cabinet office aren't planning to stick to the wee— aren't planning to stick to the 4:00 deadline— aren't planning to stick to the 4:00 deadline and might be wtttme— 4:oo deadline and might be mum to— 4:oo deadline and might be willing to take— 4:00 deadline and might be willing to take this to court. now— willing to take this to court. wow. trot-c— willing to take this to court. now, that's very— willing to take this to court. now, that's very interesting tmteect— now, that's very interesting indeed, because as you said in trot— indeed, because as you said in that introduction— indeed, because as you said in that introduction there, boris johnson— that introduction there, boris totmcom toe— that introduction there, boris johnson has said that he is pertecttw— johnson has said that he is perfectly happy for the covid mpwtrw— perfectly happy for the covid mommy to— perfectly happy for the covid mommy to eee— perfectly happy for the covid inquiry to see his whatsapps and his inquiry to see his whatsapps and me meeeoeee— inquiry to see his whatsapps and his messages from _ inquiry to see his whatsapps and his messages from the covid pertot— his messages from the covid pertot mt— his messages from the covid

pertot mt rt— his messages from the covid period and if he's willing to rt.— period and if he's willing to tt. wett— period and if he's willing to see it. well, who- period and if he's willing to see it. well, who was he to tottme— see it. well, who was he to tottmp or— see it. well, who was he to talking or what— see it. well, who was he to talking or what conversations going— talking or what conversations going om— talking or what conversations were going on that rishi sunak or om— were going on that rishi sunak or my otter— were going on that rishi sunak or any other sitting minister toeem-t— or any other sitting minister doesn't want— or any other sitting minister doesn't want to _ or any other sitting minister doesn't want to be seen . the doesn't want to be seen. the tott— doesn't want to be seen. the tott te— doesn't want to be seen. the tott te wew— doesn't want to be seen. the ball is very much— doesn't want to be seen. the ball is very much in their court mt— ball is very much in their court mt tw— ball is very much in their court mt to tree— ball is very much in their court and by the sounds— ball is very much in their court and by the sounds of it, it toeem-t— and by the sounds of it, it doesn't look— and by the sounds of it, it doesn't look like they're going to meet— doesn't look like they're going to meet tree— doesn't look like they're going to meet the deadline. what happens— to meet the deadline. what happens then?— to meet the deadline. what happens then? well if rishi smot— happens then? well if rishi straw or— happens then? well if rishi sunak or baroness hallett cooceet— sunak or baroness hallett cooeeem to— sunak or baroness hallett chooses to take- sunak or baroness hallett chooses to take this to court, tote— chooses to take this to court, tote tre— chooses to take this to court, take the nuclear— chooses to take this to court, take the nuclear option, as it . tort— take the nuclear option, as it were , lord sumption, a very were, lord sumption, a very emtmemt— were, lord sumption, a very eminent, distinguished former high— eminent, distinguished former high court— eminent, distinguished former high court-toe- eminent, distinguished former high court has said that high court judge, has said that the government— high court judge, has said that the government have no the government would have noi case—lose-battle. case and would lose the battle. wrot— case and would lose the battle. what—twe- case and would lose the battle. whet—ttte tel what happened? well, this is toecmotme— what happened? well, this is fascinating because if they tom-t.— fascinating because if they don't, _they've l fascinating because if they- don't,-they've clearly don't, then what they've clearly wetgmet — don't, then what they've clearly wetpmetlte— don't, then what they've clearly weighed-is that— don't, then what they've clearly weighed-is that it- don't, then what they've clearly weighed is that it would weighed up is that it would be teee— weighed up is that it would be teee tomopmp— weighed up is that it would be less damaging for them to go to court— less damaging for them to go to court .— less damaging for them to go to court . toee— less damaging for them to go to court , lose and— less damaging for them to go to court , lose and face the court, lose and face the consequence— court, lose and face the consequence . 3�*3 court, lose and face the consequence . 353 t,:,.o i“ court, lose and face the consequence . 33 t,:,.o ti.“ court, lose and face the- consequence . rs which we will consequence. rs which we will have to look into this. but given the fact that i mean, this is most extreme but is the most extreme example, but given talk given the fact there was talk yesterday , will boris go yesterday, will boris go to prison? that might apply prison? i mean, that might apply to they've to somebody else. now they've weighed up that that would be less than potentially less damaging than potentially the actual content of some of these messages. well, exactly. amt— these messages. well, exactly. amt roee— these messages. well, exactly. and baroness hallett- 3 well, exactly. and baroness hallett has made cteor— and baroness hallett has made cteor trot— and baroness hallett has made clear that the— and baroness hallett has made

clear that the government would be breaking— clear that the government would be treotmp m— clear that the government would be breaking, in her— clear that the government would be breaking, in her opinion, crtmmot— be breaking, in her opinion, criminal law— be breaking, in her opinion, criminal law if— be breaking, in her opinion, criminal law if it fails to comptw— criminal law if it fails to comptw .— criminal law if it fails to comptw . so— criminal law if it fails to comptw . so rt- criminal law if it fails to comply . so if the government comply. so if the government toee— comply. so if the government toee tote— comply. so if the government does take baroness hallett to court— does take baroness hallett to court-mt— does take baroness hallett to court-and loses,- does take baroness hallett to court and loses, well , court over it and loses, well, we— court over it and loses, well, we are talking— court over it and loses, well, we are talking about a criminal wttcm— we are talking about a criminal wttct te— we are talking about a criminal case, which is very, very interesting— case, which is very, very interesting indeed . / case, which is very, very interesting indeed. / interesting indeed. yeah, well, outta.— interesting indeed. yeah, well, ottwt. vou— interesting indeed. yeah, well, olivia, you are going to very olivia, you are going to be very busy over the course of the next hour or so. olivia utley will be with political reporter. hour or so. olivia utley will be with is political reporter. hour or so. olivia utley will be with is [countdown orter. hour or so. olivia utley will be with is [countdown to er. hour or so. olivia utley will be with is [countdown to the hour or so. olivia utley will be w pm. is [countdown to the hour or so. olivia utley will be w p.m. deadline. |ntdown to the hour or so. olivia utley will be w p.m. deadline. weown to the hour or so. olivia utley will be w p.m. deadline. we ownjust he 4 pm. deadline. we are just minutes away now. fascinating this. hopefully we get a little bit more info, little bit more bit more info, a little bit more detail now, but hold on to your hats, people. it's patrick christie's on gb news, christie's here on gb news, britain's .

channel there is now just a couple of minutes to go until the deadline for the cabinet office to give bofis for the cabinet office to give boris johnson's whatsapp

messages notebooks to the messages and notebooks to the covid 19 inquiry. johnson has handed them over to officials and said they should be disclosed urgently, which put the cabinet office in a difficult position. the government could face a legal battle now with the public inquiry unless it backs down over a demand to disclose the material . it has claimed that it material. it has claimed that it did not have the messages in notebooks that claim out of the water. now, because apparently they do. they have claimed that it all the it wasn't relevant. all the information there . well, that information in there. well, that apparently the public apparently is for the public inquiry to decide. look i really, really, really do not think that it is necessarily always appropriate for ministers of state and former prime ministers to have anyone trawl through whatsapp through every single whatsapp message and i get all of that. but i can also see the side of it, which means that when it comes things like effects it, which means that when it co lockdown,1gs like effects it, which means that when it co lockdown, whether effects it, which means that when it co lockdown, whether or effects it, which means that when it co lockdown, whether or notzcts of lockdown, whether or not bofis of lockdown, whether or not boris johnson was stabbed the boris johnson was stabbed in the back, the effects of vaccines, et all these et cetera. which all of these messages , given messages may well contain, given that time that that's the period of time they from, is not they were from, is that not vital that public have that vital that the public have that information? what is the information? and what is the person currently in number 10

rishi playing at not just rishi sunak playing at not just handing over, it implies that handing it over, it implies that there are people still in positions power who are more positions of power who are more worried contents than worried about the contents than the who we keep seeing the man who we keep seeing jogging the man who we keep seeing jogging news jogging with his dog. gb news political reporter olivia utley joins now. olivia we are now joins me now. olivia we are now exactly one minute away from this deadline and no word yet. yeah, it's looking yeah, i think it's looking increased— yeah, i think it's looking increased hinckley likely that the government— increased hinckley likely that the government isn't going to tomo— the government isn't going to tomt oer— the government isn't going to hand over all— the government isn't going to hand over all of— the government isn't going to hand over all of unredacted hand over all of the unredacted messages in time for the creature— messages in time for the deadline and— messages in time for the deadline and that actually this matter— deadline and that actually this matter te— deadline and that actually this matter te pomp— deadline and that actually this matter is going to end up in court. — matter is going to end up in court. tttem — matter is going to end up in court. rishi sunak made a sort of court. rishi sunak made a sort ot ewoewe— court. rishi sunak made a sort of evasive statement about 20 mmwtee— of evasive statement about 20 mmwtee ego— of evasive statement about 20 minutes ago where he said that the government— minutes ago where he said that the government is— minutes ago where he said that the government is confident in its the government is confident in tte poetttom— the government is confident in its position with— the government is confident in its position with relation to tte— its position with relation to the cowo— its position with relation to the covid inquiry. does that treet— the covid inquiry. does that mean that it's— the covid inquiry. does that mean that it's confident in the teeot— mean that it's confident in the tegot cee— mean that it's confident in the legal case that— mean that it's confident in the legal case that would mount legal case that it would mount optomet— legal case that it would mount ogomet-covto— legal case that it would mount against covid inquiry it against the covid inquiry if it gete— against the covid inquiry if it gete-tor— against the covid inquiry if it gete-tor e— against the covid inquiry if it gete-tor e t— against the covid inquiry if it gets-far ? i think- against the covid inquiry if it gets far ? i think that is gets that far? i think that is putte— gets that far? i think that is quite possible— gets that far? i think that is quite possible .— gets that far? i think that is quite possible . paul. quite possible. paul. interesting- quite possible. paul. interesting that rishi sunak is confident— interesting that rishi sunak is confident m— interesting that rishi sunak is confident in that— interesting that rishi sunak is confident in that position tecowee— confident in that position because the _ confident in that position because the top lawyers who've teem — because the top lawyers who've teem oetet — because the top lawyers who've been asked about— because the top lawyers who've been asked about this have ewggeetet— been asked about this have suggested that— been asked about this have suggested that a, this would be a suggested that a, this would be o wew.— suggested that a, this would be e wew. wew— suggested that a, this would be a very, very expensive process if a very, very expensive process tt tte — a very, very expensive process if the government— a very, very expensive process if the government decided to mtrotwce— if the government decided to introduce it,— if the government decided to

introduce it, it— if the government decided to introduce it, it would be a retreat— introduce it, it would be a judicial review— introduce it, it would be a judicial review over whether the ewtemce — judicial review over whether the evidence - asked _ judicial review over whether the evidence-asked for- judicial review over whether the evidence asked for in an evidence was asked for in an opproprtote— evidence was asked for in an appropriate manner that is that is appropriate manner that is that te-tegot— appropriate manner that is that is-legal course— appropriate manner that is that is-legal course of- appropriate manner that is that is legal course of action is the legal course of action treet— is the legal course of action that-government- that the government could take. amt— that the government could take. amt-trot— that the government could take. amt-mot two— that the government could take. and had two eminent and we've had two eminent towwere— and we've had two eminent towwere mow— and we've had two eminent lawyers now that , one lawyers now saying that, one saying— lawyers now saying that, one eowme-wowtt- lawyers now saying that, one saying _would be - lawyers now saying that, one saying would be very, saying that it would be very, wew— saying that it would be very,- wew—cowtt very expensive indeed and could tote—amt- very expensive indeed and could take _and another. take a long time. and another saving— take a long time. and another eowmg-wowtt- take a long time. and another saying would probably saying that they would probably toee— saying that they would probably toee . — saying that they would probably toee . okay.— saying that they would probably toee . okay-_t— saying that they would probably lose . okay-it is- saying that they would probably lose . okay-it is now. saying that they would probably lose . c lose. okay. well, it is now four seconds until the deadline, which it or not, has seconds until the deadline, whi(passed it or not, has seconds until the deadline, whi(passed . it or not, has seconds until the deadline, whi(passed . so or not, has seconds until the deadline, whi(passed . so theret, has seconds until the deadline, whi(passed . so there we as seconds until the deadline, whi(passed . so there we go. so just passed. so there we go. so the deadline has passed for the documents handed to documents to be handed over to the covid inquiry. documents to be handed over to the covid inquiry . and yeah, no the covid inquiry. and yeah, no news whatsoever. we'll obviously keep you up to date as and when they do go there , if they do, they do go there, if they do, olivia, why is this such a big issue? why should people at home now this boris johnson whatsapp deaduneis now this boris johnson whatsapp deadline is passing. boris has said, look, handed said, well, look, we've handed it is this so it all over. why is this so important? because some people go important? because some people 9° ' important? because some people go , who anymore? covid was go, who cares anymore? covid was a long time ago. we don't care about what was going on in whatsapp messages. we read a load hancock stuff in whatsapp messages. we read a loaitelegraph. ancock stuff in whatsapp messages. we read a loaitelegraph. anyway. tuff in whatsapp messages. we read a loaitelegraph. anyway. why n whatsapp messages. we read a loaitelegraph. anyway. why does the telegraph. anyway. why does this as you said this matter? well, as you said in introduction, covid in your introduction, the covid inquiry is there to work out whether our response the

whether our response to the covid pandemic was the right response. it's covid pandemic was the right response . it's going to look response. it's going to look mto— response. it's going to look into whether— response. it's going to look into whether the _ it's going to look into whether the repeated tocttowme— into whether the repeated lockdowns were too draconian and whether— lockdowns were too draconian and whether tt— lockdowns were too draconian and whether it will— lockdowns were too draconian and whether it will hopefully what we're expecting _ whether it will hopefully what we're expecting that it will wetpt— we're expecting that it will wetpm pp— we're expecting that it will weigh up some— we're expecting that it will weigh up some of the pros and ot— weigh up some of the pros and ot going— weigh up some of the pros and cons of going into— weigh up some of the pros and cons of going into lockdown, mote—vowel make economic make value assessments over the economic tmpocte— assessments over the economic tmpocte ot— assessments over the economic impacts of lockdown and the sort of assessments— impacts of lockdown and the sort of assessments which many people saving— of assessments which many people were saying should— of assessments which many people were saying should have been tome— were saying should have been tome ot— were saying should have been tome ot the— were saying should have been done at the time.— were saying should have been done at the time. it's also going— done at the time. it's also pomp-mo- done at the time. it's also going-into how. going to look into how care home— going to look into how care homes -treated- going to look into how care homes treated during homes were treated during tocttowm— homes were treated during lockdown. obviously, matt homes were treated during lockdowrsaidviously, matt homes were treated during lockdowrsaidviousa, matt homes were treated during lockdowrsaidviousa ringtt homes were treated during lockdowrsaidviousa ring was hancock said that a ring was going— hancock said that a ring was pomp-promo- going to be put around care romee— going to be put around care tomee-tt- going to be put around care homes it seemed going to be put around care. homes-it seemed as homes and then it seemed as mower— homes and then it seemed as mower-were- homes and then it seemed as though _were just- though people were just mterr-ect— though people were just interject and— though people were just interject and say, this is what i-understand- interject and say, this is what i-understand . - interject and say, this is what i-understand . so- interject and say, this is what i understand . swift“ i don't understand. so matt wmcoct— i don't understand. so matt hancock nowhere near the hancock is now nowhere near the heart of government. in fact, he's boris he's off very soon. boris johnson nowhere near johnson is nowhere near government the minute . in government at the minute. in fact, has obviously come out fact, he has obviously come out and like and said that he's he feels like it was a stitch up and he's he's gone now. and so all of these things about care homes that would have been matt hancock, presumably those presumably he made those decisions part of it. decisions all was part of it. bofis decisions all was part of it. boris was the man boris johnson was the man in charge. those are charge. so whilst those are relevant questions, just relevant questions, i just wonder what could coming out wonder what could be coming out in messages that in these whatsapp messages that

affects people who are affects the people who are there right sunak right now, like rishi sunak well, big well, i think that is the big question. the fact that boris tormeom— question. the fact that boris johnson . perfectly- question. the fact that borisi johnson-perfectly-for johnson is perfectly happy for his johnson is perfectly happy for tte meeeogee— johnson is perfectly happy for his messages-be- johnson is perfectly happy for his messages be released his messages to be released ewppeete— suggests that there are some peopte— suggests that there are some peopte m— suggests that there are some people in government at the momem— people in government at the moment, quite— people in government at the moment, quite possibly rishi smot— moment, quite possibly rishi swmot-wmo- moment, quite possibly rishi sunak-who was- moment, quite possibly rishi sunak who was obviously sunak himself, who was obviously ctomcettor— chancellor at the time, who toeem-t— chancellor at the time, who doesn't-these - chancellor at the time, who doesn't these messages to doesn't want these messages to be doesn't want these messages to toe-ot— doesn't want these messages to te-ot coe- doesn't want these messages to be-of course the - doesn't want these messages to be of course the covid be seen. and of course the covid mpwtrw— be seen. and of course the covid mpwtwleome— be seen. and of course the covid inquiry some respects, people inquiry in some respects, people . ott— inquiry in some respects, people . ott teee— inquiry in some respects, people , all these inquiries take a tome— , all these inquiries take a tome-theore- , all these inquiries take a long they're quite long time and they're quite trwetrotme— long time and they're quite frustrating they long time and they're quite- frustrating-they don't frustrating and often they don't come-omwtmme- come out with anything porttcwtortw— come out with anything particularly interesting or informative. _ particularly interesting or informative. the principle informative. but the principle is informative. but the principle te trot— informative. but the principle te that we— informative. but the principle is that we took— informative. but the principle is that we took a— informative. but the principle is that we took a very, very troettc— is that we took a very, very drastic action— is that we took a very, very drastic action in— is that we took a very, very drastic action in response to me— drastic action in response to this pandemic.— drastic action in response to this pandemic. was the action trot— this pandemic. was the action that we— this pandemic. was the action that we toot— this pandemic. was the action that we took the _ this pandemic. was the action that we took the right action to take — that we took the right action to take amt— that we took the right action to take amt m— that we took the right action to take amt m o— that we took the right action to take. and in a future pandemic, trow— take. and in a future pandemic, tow-we— take. and in a future pandemic, how-weldoing- take. and in a future pandemic, how we doing things how should we be doing things tttteremttwe— how should we be doing things differently?-what- how should we be doing things differently? what that differently? that is what that is. the remit of the covid mpwtrw—tt-el inquiry. that's what it's tootmp— inquiry. that's what it's looking-and- inquiry. that's what it's looking and whether it looking into and whether it etowtt— looking into and whether it should - access- looking into and whether it should access to all the should have access to all the tmormottom— should have access to all the information arguably needs to information it arguably needs to react— information it arguably needs to react tmoee— information it arguably needs to reach those conclusions is very, wew— reach those conclusions is very, wew tmportomt. — reach those conclusions is very, very important. olivia, thank you— very important. olivia, thank you wew— very important. olivia, thank you wew mwcm — very important. olivia, thank you very much. 0. , you very much. olivia utley there, our political reporter just a reminder you that just a reminder for you that breaking the deadline breaking news that the deadline for the documents and whatsapp messages be handed to the messages to be handed to the covid inquiry has now passed . we covid inquiry has now passed. we are yet hear news that

are yet to hear any news that they have indeed handed anything oven they have indeed handed anything over. , polly over. but our newsreader, polly middlehurst, might have some developments for you. we'll have to wait see, we? right to wait and see, won't we? right now . well not quite, patrick. now. well not quite, patrick. no reaction yet from downing street— no reaction yet from downing street or— no reaction yet from downing street or the _ no reaction yet from downing street or the cabinet office, tut— street or the cabinet office, put the — street or the cabinet office, but the prime— street or the cabinet office, but the prime minister has said the government— but the prime minister has said the government is— but the prime minister has said the government is confident in its the government is confident in tte poetttom— the government is confident in its position as— the government is confident in its position as that deadline poeeet— its position as that deadline poeeet to— its position as that deadline passed to respond to the covid mpwtrtee— passed to respond to the covid mpwtrtee .— passed to respond to the covid inquiries. demand passed to respond to the covid inquiries . demand for full inquiries. demand for full disclosure— inquiries. demand for full disclosure of— inquiries. demand for full disclosure of boris johnson's prtwote— disclosure of boris johnson's private messages and papers. trem— private messages and papers. ttett smot— private messages and papers. rishi sunak has— private messages and papers. rishi sunak has been speaking in ttottowo— rishi sunak has been speaking in moldova ahead— rishi sunak has been speaking in moldova ahead of— rishi sunak has been speaking in moldova ahead of that 4 pm. teottme— moldova ahead of that 4 pm. teottme to— moldova ahead of that 4 pm. deadline to release the former trtme— deadline to release the former prime minister's— deadline to release the former prime minister's unredacted messages , diaries and notebooks messages, diaries and notebooks to tte— messages, diaries and notebooks to the motto— messages, diaries and notebooks to the mercy tw— messages, diaries and notebooks to the inquiry by the cabinet emce— to the inquiry by the cabinet office. previously argued the motertot— office. previously argued the material was— office. previously argued the material was irrelevant anyway mt— material was irrelevant anyway mt ctotmet— material was irrelevant anyway and claimed it— material was irrelevant anyway and claimed it didn't have to reweot— and claimed it didn't have to reweot rt.— and claimed it didn't have to reveal it. but— and claimed it didn't have to reveal it. but mr— and claimed it didn't have to reveal it. but mrjohnson has momtet— reveal it. but mrjohnson has now handed it— reveal it. but mrjohnson has now handed it over and even urged— now handed it over and even wrpet tte— now handed it over and even urged the government to pass it on urged the government to pass it or m— urged the government to pass it or m twtt. — urged the government to pass it on in full. well,— urged the government to pass it on in full. well, |— urged the government to pass it on in full. �*fwti... urged the government to pass it on in full. yogi... c on in full. well, i think it's really important that we learn the lessons of covid so that we can be better prepared in the future. and we're doing that in

a spirit of rigour, but also transparency and candour. we've cooperated . the government has cooperated. the government has cooperated. the government has cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of documents. and we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry . cooperate with the inquiry. we're confident in our position , but are carefully considering next steps . now, dorset police next steps. now, dorset police has launched an investigation into the deaths of two young swimmers at bournemouth beach last evening. a 12 year old girl trom— “ “g a 12 year old girl from buckinghamshire and a 17 year— from buckinghamshire and a 17 year ott— from buckinghamshire and a 17 year ott tow— from buckinghamshire and a 17 year old boy from _ from buckinghamshire and a 17 year old boy from southampton ttet— year old boy from southampton ttet .— year old boy from southampton ttet . ttet— year old boy from southampton died , died after— year old boy from southampton died , died after being pulled died, died after being pulled trom— died, died after being pulled trom tte— died, died after being pulled from the sea— died, died after being pulled from the sea yesterday afternoon . ewr— from the sea yesterday afternoon . our south—east— from the sea yesterday afternoon . our south—east of— from the sea yesterday afternoon . our south—east of england. reporter— . our south—east of england. tteporter tow— . our south—east of england. reporter ray addison has this report— reporter ray addison has this report .— reporter ray addison has this report . em— reporter ray addison has this report . om t-m— reporter ray addison has this report. on i'm sorry we can't bring— report. on i'm sorry we can't trmp wow— report. on i'm sorry we can't trmp you met— report. on i'm sorry we can't bring you that report at the momem— bring you that report at the moment, but— bring you that report at the moment, but we can bring you treatme— moment, but we can bring you some breaking news. the itv cmet— some breaking news. the itv chief executive,— some breaking news. the itv chief executive, dame carolyn ttccott.— chief executive, dame carolyn ttccott. toe— chief executive, dame carolyn mccall, has been— chief executive, dame carolyn mccall, has been asked to face pweettome— mccall, has been asked to face questions from _ mccall, has been asked to face questions from mps the questions from mps on the tv programme— questions from mps on the tv programme tme— questions from mps on the tv programme this morning and the row surrounding—

programme this morning and the row surrounding it— programme this morning and the row surrounding it at a session of row surrounding it at a session ot the— row surrounding it at a session of the culture— row surrounding it at a session ot the cwttwre .— row surrounding it at a session of the culture , media and sport of the culture, media and sport commtttee— of the culture, media and sport committee on— of the culture, media and sport committee on the— of the culture, media and sport committee on the 14th of june. in committee on the 14th of june. m treat— committee on the 14th of june. m that .— committee on the 14th of june. m that . ot— committee on the 14th of june. in that , of course,— committee on the 14th of june. in that , of course, coming up in in that, of course, coming up in te— in that, of course, coming up in tte-ot— in that, of course, coming up in tte-ot tte— in that, of course, coming up in tte-ot tte tw— in that, of course, coming up in the of the tv presenter the wake of the tv presenter mttttp— the wake of the tv presenter phillip-scandal- the wake of the tv presenter phillip scandal that phillip schofield scandal that has - unfolded - phillip schofield scandal that has unfolded regarding has recently unfolded regarding his admission— has recently unfolded regarding his admission of— has recently unfolded regarding his admission of a relationship wttt— his admission of a relationship mm a— his admission of a relationship mm a younger— his admission of a relationship with a younger male colleague at the tawttme— with a younger male colleague at the tawttme tw— with a younger male colleague at the daytime tv show. so that met— the daytime tv show. so that twet m— the daytime tv show. so that twet m to— the daytime tv show. so that twet m to we— the daytime tv show. so that just in to us now.— the daytime tv show. so that just in to us now. in other tatowr— just in to us now. in other news, labour mp gareth davies mae— news, labour mp gareth davies mae teem— news, labour mp gareth davies has been suspended from the party— has been suspended from the party following— has been suspended from the party following allegations of mapproprtate— party following allegations of inappropriate behaviour. labour is inappropriate behaviour. labour te cattme— inappropriate behaviour. labour tecattmette— inappropriate behaviour. labour is calling the allegations comptetetw— is calling the allegations completely unacceptable and tmcrettttw— completely unacceptable and incredibly serious and has encouraged— incredibly serious and has encouraged anyone with a comptamt— encouraged anyone with a complaint to— encouraged anyone with a complaint to come forward. the swaeea— complaint to come forward. the swaeea weet— complaint to come forward. the swansea west mp— complaint to come forward. the swansea west mp has had the whip remoet— swansea west mp has had the whip emoet wette— swansea west mp has had the whip removed while a— swansea west mp has had the whip removed while a review is carrtet— removed while a review is carrtet owt. — removed while a review is carried out. he- removed while a review is carried out. he earlier refuted tte— carried out. he earlier refuted the allegations— carried out. he earlier refuted the allegations and apologise if tte-t— the allegations and apologise if he'd inadvertently offended amomew— he'd inadvertently offended anoney to. — he'd inadvertently offended anyone to. teenage boys have teem— anyone to. teenage boys have been arrested _ anyone to. teenage boys have been arrested after a man was toma— been arrested after a man was towmt teat— been arrested after a man was found dead in— been arrested after a man was found dead in manchester. the 21 wear— found dead in manchester. the 21 year ott— found dead in manchester. the 21 year ott ae— found dead in manchester. the 21 year old was found— found dead in manchester. the 21 year old was found with serious tmr-wrtee— year old was found with serious more re— year old was found with serious injuries in old— year old was found with serious injuries in old trafford weetertaw— injuries in old trafford weetertaw .— injuries in old trafford yesterday . he was pronounced yesterday. he was pronounced teat— yesterday. he was pronounced teat at— yesterday. he was pronounced teat at tte— yesterday. he was pronounced dead at the scene . a 15 year old dead at the scene. a 15 year old boy— dead at the scene. a 15 year old tow-teem— dead at the scene. a 15 year old boy-been arrested- dead at the scene. a 15 year old boy been arrested on boy has been arrested on eweptctom— boy has been arrested on suspicion of— boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder and a 16 year— suspicion of murder and a 16 year ott— suspicion of murder and a 16 year ott mae— suspicion of murder and a 16 year old has been arrested on eweptctom— year old has been arrested on eweptctom ot— year old has been arrested on suspicion of possessing an

ottemetwe— suspicion of possessing an offensive weapon . now police offensive weapon. now police mweettgatme— offensive weapon. now police investigating the disappearance of investigating the disappearance ot ttateteme— investigating the disappearance of madeleine mccann say they recovered several— of madeleine mccann say they recovered several items during taet— recovered several items during taet eewe— recovered several items during last week's searches of a tortwpweee— last week's searches of a portuguese reservoir . german portuguese reservoir. german otttctate— portuguese reservoir. german officials worked— portuguese reservoir. german officials worked with officers trom — officials worked with officers trom wew— officials worked with officers from new scotland yard as well as from new scotland yard as well ae spamtem— from new scotland yard as well as spanish police,— from new scotland yard as well as spanish police, to dig in the ot— as spanish police, to dig in the environs of the— as spanish police, to dig in the environs of the area around the tam — environs of the area around the tam amt— environs of the area around the tam amt tte— environs of the area around the dam and the reservoir. they environs of the area around the dam and the reservoir . they were dam and the reservoir. they were taggmg— dam and the reservoir. they were taggmp pp— dam and the reservoir. they were seen bagging up items and say ttoee— seen bagging up items and say ttoee tteme— seen bagging up items and say those items which— seen bagging up items and say those items which were taken off to germany— those items which were taken off to germany tor— those items which were taken off to germany for examination, can not wet— to germany for examination, can not yet te— to germany for examination, can not yet be linked— to germany for examination, can not yet be linked to her disappearance , but they will be disappearance, but they will be ewatuatet— disappearance, but they will be ewatuatet m— disappearance, but they will be evaluated in laboratories over the evaluated in laboratories over tte comme— evaluated in laboratories over the coming weeks. evaluated in laboratories over the coming weeks . a large the coming weeks. a large eecttom— the coming weeks. a large eecttom ot— the coming weeks. a large section of the— the coming weeks. a large section of the reservoir was cortomet— section of the reservoir was cortomet ott— section of the reservoir was cordoned off at— section of the reservoir was cordoned off at the time. it's aroma— cordoned off at the time. it's aroma eo— cordoned off at the time. it's around 30 miles— cordoned off at the time. it's around 30 miles from where the three— around 30 miles from where the three year— around 30 miles from where the ttree wear ott— around 30 miles from where the three year old madeleine went mteetme— three year old madeleine went mteetmg m— three year old madeleine went mteetmp m two— three year old madeleine went missing in two thousand and eet— missing in two thousand and seven. 69 years— missing in two thousand and seven. 69 years ago. police say mew-re— seven. 69 years ago. police say they're investigation into the mam— they're investigation into the euepect— they're investigation into the main suspect ,— they're investigation into the main suspect, german national ctrtettam— main suspect, german national christian brueckner is expected to comttme — christian brueckner is expected to continue for— christian brueckner is expected to continue for some time . and to continue for some time. and taettw— to continue for some time. and taettw tte— to continue for some time. and lastly, the prince— to continue for some time. and lastly, the prince and princess of lastly, the prince and princess ot watee— lastly, the prince and princess of wales have— lastly, the prince and princess of wales have made a surprise wett— of wales have made a surprise wet to— of wales have made a surprise visit to jordan— of wales have made a surprise visit to jordan to— of wales have made a surprise visit to jordan to attend the wettmg— visit to jordan to attend the wettme ot— visit to jordan to attend the wedding of the— visit to jordan to attend the wedding of the country's crown trmce— wedding of the country's crown prince william _ wedding of the country's crown prince william and kate are

among— prince william and kate are among a— prince william and kate are among a poet— prince william and kate are among a host of— prince william and kate are among a host of foreign royalty attemtmp— among a host of foreign royalty attemtme tte— among a host of foreign royalty attending the nuptials of prince wueeem— attending the nuptials of prince tueeem amt— attending the nuptials of prince hussein and his— attending the nuptials of prince hussein and his saudi arabian trtte— hussein and his saudi arabian trtte. tte— hussein and his saudi arabian bride. the celebrations are terme— bride. the celebrations are temg teta— bride. the celebrations are being held at— bride. the celebrations are being held at the zafran palace. mat-e— being held at the zafran palace. ttat-e tte— being held at the zafran palace. that's the same— being held at the zafran palace. that's the same venue chosen by the that's the same venue chosen by tte crown— that's the same venue chosen by the crown prince's— that's the same venue chosen by the crown prince's father, kim attuttat— the crown prince's father, kim attuttat .— the crown prince's father, kim abdullah , the— the crown prince's father, kim abdullah , the second ulez gb abdullah, the second ulez gb wewe— abdullah, the second ulez gb news more news— abdullah, the second ulez gb news more news as it happens. wow— news more news as it happens. wow tact— news more news as it happens. wow tact to— news more news as it happens. wow tact to .— now back to. patrick |ttte— now back to. patrick l ttte te— now back to. patrick . this is going- now back to. patrick . this is going to. now back to. patrick. - this is going to be this is going to be a very busy hour we've that hour because we've got that breaking deadline breaking news of the deadline passing covid 19 inquiry passing in the covid 19 inquiry can christopher hope and can have christopher hope and nigel olivia utley nigel nelson and olivia utley picking this because picking through this because we're developments on we're expecting developments on that i'm also going we're expecting developments on thrbe i'm also going we're expecting developments on thrbe talking i'm also going we're expecting developments on thrbe talking about1 also going we're expecting developments on thrbe talking about the ;o going we're expecting developments on thrbe talking about the £2.1ting to be talking about the £2.1 billion year. are now billion a year. we are now spending asylum seeker spending on our asylum seeker problem whether or problem and asking whether or not money could be better not that money could be better spent at for spent right here at home for people like homeless veterans or frankly, just the poor. okay. also, harry and meghan have

found a rare bit of good news, have vowed to shut up about the royal we'll be royal family. so we'll be discussing that discussing all of that inheritance you scrap inheritance tax. would you scrap it? keep it? and it? would you keep it? and they are arguing obe one of are lodged arguing obe one of the worst diversity drives that you've ever seen, which has believe not, culminated in believe it or not, culminated in them payouts to white them giving payouts to white people actual people because their actual applications halted as a applications were halted as a result, which i think is well, frankly sums the whole woke nonsense up, doesn't it? but to our top story, the deadline for the cabinet office give boris the cabinet office to give boris johnson's and johnson's whatsapp messages and notebooks to the covid 19 inquiry has now passed. it whizzed us by about 4:00 pm. johnson has handed them over to officials and said they should be disclosed, which the be disclosed, which put the cabinet office a tight spot. cabinet office in a tight spot. they initially well, look, they initially said, well, look, we have the material. then we don't have the material. then it they then it turned out they did. then they relevant. they said it wasn't relevant. well, it probably well, it turns out it probably is. i'm joined now by gb news senior political commentator nigel political nigel nelson and political broadcaster chris hope chop , broadcaster chris hope chop, i'll start with you. you are outside westminster there. you've got your finger on the pulse and your ear to the ground. what's going well

ground. what's going on? well look at my phone here, patrick. and so far , nothing. the and so far, nothing. the creature— and so far, nothing. the deadline has— and so far, nothing. the deadline has passed. we're wattme— deadline has passed. we're wattmp to— deadline has passed. we're waiting to see— deadline has passed. we're waiting to see whether the catmet— waiting to see whether the cabinet office _ waiting to see whether the cabinet office has agreed to paee—wtatetppi pass across these whatsapp messages. don't forget the pressure i now _ messages. don't forget the pressure now rishi sunak pressure is now on. rishi sunak amt— pressure is now on. rishi sunak amt tte— pressure is now on. rishi sunak and the cabinet— pressure is now on. rishi sunak and the cabinet office because torre— and the cabinet office because boris johnson— and the cabinet office because boris johnson said he's no prottem— boris johnson said he's no problem with— boris johnson said he's no problem with handing over his wtatetpp— problem with handing over his whatsapp unedited and whatsapp messages unedited and off whatsapp messages unedited and ott mew— whatsapp messages unedited and ott they go— whatsapp messages unedited and ott they go to— whatsapp messages unedited and off they go to the— whatsapp messages unedited and off they go to the inquiry and the off they go to the inquiry and tte preettom— off they go to the inquiry and the question is— off they go to the inquiry and the question is now what happens reatt— the question is now what happens meow-rm— the question is now what happens next?-i'm looking— the question is now what happens next? i'm looking at my next? well i'm looking at my phone— next? well i'm looking at my ptome mere.— next? well i'm looking at my phone here, so— next? well i'm looking at my phone here, so far nothing. but the phone here, so far nothing. but tte-te— phone here, so far nothing. but tte-re t-m— phone here, so far nothing. but tte-re t-m rot- phone here, so far nothing. but the-is i'm not quite. phone here, so far nothing. but the why is i'm not quite phone here, so far nothing. but the why this is i'm not quite phone here, so far nothing. but the why this is am not quite phone here, so far nothing. but the why this is a bigot quite phone here, so far nothing. but the why this is a big dealite sure why this is a big deal here. this this report won't be published until 2031, by which time, patrick, you might be prime minister. and i certainly will be retired by then. 2031. but you look back at the but if you look back at the timing, i mean, the last oral heanngs timing, i mean, the last oral hearings were in 2026, the chilcot inquiry finished into iraq war in 2011. that took five years to report. five years in 2026 is 2031. so really, i don't know what the political risk is here. maybe it's civil servants and others concerned about setting a precedent for future inquiries, but otherwise nothing's happened yet. and the

mood music we're getting is the government will not want to abide by this idea of handing over all of these whatsapp messages. the answer probably should be stop communicating by whatsapp and just do it normally and that might it easier and that might make it easier for agree support for them to agree to support these inquiries. okay and nigel, is this these inquiries. okay and nigel, te ttte wet— these inquiries. okay and nigel, is this just bad— these inquiries. okay and nigel, is this just bad politics?- is this just bad politics? i mean, should— is this just bad politics? i mean, should they not hand all of mean, should they not hand all ot ttte— mean, should they not hand all ot ttte overe— mean, should they not hand all of this over? can— mean, should they not hand all of this over? can they trust that— of this over? can they trust that att— of this over? can they trust that at ot— of this over? can they trust that all of this— of this over? can they trust that all of this will be kept confidential— that all of this will be kept confidential until the point, of course, years down the line where— course, years down the line where tt— course, years down the line where it isn't— course, years down the line where it isn't ?_ course, years down the line where it isn't ? and in the where it isn't? and in the meamttme— where it isn't? and in the meantime, we— where it isn't? and in the meantime, we hear talk of corrupttom— meantime, we hear talk of corruption now— meantime, we hear talk of corruption now or who's hiding what.— corruption now or who's hiding wtat. amt— corruption now or who's hiding wtat. amt tt— corruption now or who's hiding what. and it allows people like me to— what. and it allows people like me to float— what. and it allows people like me to float suggestions that it's me to float suggestions that we actuattw— me to float suggestions that it's actually rishi sunak who's got eometttme— it's actually rishi sunak who's got something to— it's actually rishi sunak who's got something to hide and not torre— got something to hide and not boris johnson. _ got something to hide and not boris johnson. yes so i think ttat— boris johnson. yes so i think that it's perfectly fair , that it's perfectly fair, patrick, that it does feel like there's something of a cover up going on. what the issue here is, it's over really. whatsapp messages and government by whatsapp, which is what will be on trial if it ever gets if it ever gets to court. so what?

heather hallett, the chair of the inquiry is relying on is section 21 of the 2005 inquiries act. and this says that she must have all material that she asked for . now, of course, when that for. now, of course, when that act was passed, none of us were using whatsapp. now we use them all the time, including government ministers as and because we do that , that we tend because we do that, that we tend to put stuff on whatsapp that we wouldn't put into an email or an official document. and that's what the issue is here. it's the kind of private stuff that you will get in whatsapp messages . will get in whatsapp messages. but quite clearly from heather hallett's point of view , these hallett's point of view, these are relevant because some of the chats include conversations between the westminster and scottish government agents. and we know that that they weren't really singing from the same hymn book during the whole covid crisis . okay, christopher , just crisis. okay, christopher, just allow us to speculate here slightly. what kind of thing do you ttmt— slightly. what kind of thing do

you think might— slightly. what kind of thing do you think might be— 3 what kind of thing do you think might be the issue in terme— you think might be the issue in terme ot— you think might be the issue in terme ot mot— you think might be the issue in terms of not wanting to be put out there— terms of not wanting to be put out there .— terms of not wanting to be put out there . — terms of not wanting to be put out there . well,— terms of not wanting to be put out there . well, if- terms of not wanting to be put out there . kati... �*" terms of not wanting to be put out there . �*fwti... �*" out there. well, if you look at the kind of disclosures in the telegraphs whatsapp files, the lockdown files, as they call them at the telegraph , there's them at the telegraph, there's lots of kind of freewheeling chat about this and that and some ministers saying ignore this meeting. let's talk off the beam. let's try and scare the pants off people from for various adverts during the dunng various adverts during the during the covid covid pandemic campaign by the government . during the covid covid pandemic campaign by the government. this stuff is damaging, but as is rightly said, there , the point rightly said, there, the point is it's not really up to the government to work out what to release. it should be up to heather hallett, baroness hallett, she's the judge in charge. a legal to charge. she's a legal duty to pubush charge. she's a legal duty to publish what she thinks is relevant and what's relevant may not be what the government thinks relevant. in thinks is relevant. often in these inquiries is the these big inquiries is the disclosures the edges , disclosures around the edges, which so difficult for which can be so difficult for the you back the government. you think back to inquiry. think to the hutton inquiry. think back to the inquiry into back to the leveson inquiry into

press ethics. it's the it's the it's the various text messages released back then between jeremy hunt and someone else from news corp. but became so embarrassing for the government. so they're worried about that. but frankly, that horse has bolted, nigel says , as if bolted, as nigel says, as if you're to communicate on you're going to communicate on whatsapp, then you should live or die that sword. i am or die by that sword. i am looking by the way, at my looking, by the way, at my whatsapp to find out what the answer we're all guilty answer is. so we're all guilty of that, aren't chris i'm of that, aren't we? chris i'm going to you a going to go back to you in a second. nigel, appears second. nigel, this just appears tomaeet—we- second. nigel, this just appears to_massive gift- second. nigel, this just appears to_massive gift for. i: nigel, this just appears to labour massive gift for i: nigel, this just appears to labour partyassive gift for i: nigel, this just appears to labour party because it for i: nigel, this just appears to labour party because they the labour party because they mot— the labour party because they mot m— the labour party because they were not in power— the labour party because they were not in power at the time of the were not in power at the time of tte cowo— were not in power at the time of the covid pandemic, so they tram-t— the covid pandemic, so they tttm-t—wttt- the covid pandemic, so they didn't—with it. the covid pandemic, so theyj didn't—with it at the covid pandemic, so they didrthey with it at the covid pandemic, so they didrthey could with it at the covid pandemic, so they didrthey could just with it at the covid pandemic, so they didrthey could just staret at the covid pandemic, so they didrthey could just stare att all. they could just stare at tte— all. they could just stare at the government— all. they could just stare at the government and pick bits out that— the government and pick bits out that mew— the government and pick bits out that they didn't— the government and pick bits out that they didn't like. et cetera— that they didn't like. et cetera ae— that they didn't like. et cetera. as indeed most of the matmetream— cetera. as indeed most of the mainstream media was doing at the mainstream media was doing at tte ttme— mainstream media was doing at tte ttme .— mainstream media was doing at tte ttme . mew— mainstream media was doing at the time . they are— mainstream media was doing at the time . they are not now the time. they are not now tmotwet— the time. they are not now tmotwet m— the time. they are not now involved in any— the time. they are not now involved in any kind of inquiry to cteam— involved in any kind of inquiry to cteam up— involved in any kind of inquiry to clean up this— involved in any kind of inquiry to clean up this mess, are they? i to clean up this mess, are they? t mean.— to clean up this mess, are they? t tetr— to clean up this mess, are they? i mean, keir starmer could not tave— i mean, keir starmer could not have met— i mean, keir starmer could not have just asked— i mean, keir starmer could not have just asked for a better reeutt— have just asked for a better reeutt mere.— have just asked for a better result here. really? yeah that's rtett. — result here. really? yeah that's rtett. .ttat-e— result here. really? yeah that's right. .that's why- result here. really? yeah that's right. result here. really? yeah that's righte“ti; “

promised all along was an inquiry after covid was over and full transparency for that, that inquiry. now they're denied the inquiry, the very transparency they promised . i think chris is they promised. i think chris is absolutely right that i mean , if absolutely right that i mean, if you're going to go in to govern by , you live or by by whatsapp, you live or die by a whatsapp messenger. and if ministers private ministers are putting private stuff on there, i mean, for instance, we be that the instance, we it may be that the reason boris johnson is quite happy for messaging to be happy for his messaging to be revealed he's got something revealed is he's got something to say in them about rishi sunak rishi sunak may not feel he wants that in the public domain, but quite clearly, whatever's on these whatsapp messages that were exchanged during the during the clampdown that we all went through during covid, they've got to be relevant for this inquiry and of course labour will make will make hay out of this on the basis that they are trying to cover it up. yeah indeed chris. i'll love it back wow— indeed chris. i'll love it back your way. — indeed chris. i'll love it back your way. t— indeed chris. i'll love it back wowwaw. t cam— indeed chris. i'll love it back your way. i can see- 3: i'll love it back your way. i can see you

tttteemttw— your way. i can see you diligently looking at your phone mere.— diligently looking at your phone mere—awe. - diligently looking at your phone there._quiet. chris. diligently looking at your phone there. quiet. chris it there. ominously quiet. chris it to— there. ominously quiet. chris it tolat— there. ominously quiet. chris it seems to at moment, seems to be at the moment, toeem-t— seems to be at the moment, doesn't-have- seems to be at the moment, doesn't-have i- seems to be at the moment, doesn't have i did doesn't it? i did have i did tave— doesn't it? i did have i did taeo—m- doesn't it? i did have i did have _on earlier| doesn't it? i did have i did. have _on earlier on doesn't it? i did have i did- have _on earlier on who have somebody on earlier on who wae—tt— have somebody on earlier on who wae—tt tmteet- was suggesting that if indeed the revelations— was suggesting that if indeed the revelations of these wtateapp— the revelations of these whatsapp messages, absolute tammer— whatsapp messages, absolute hammer sunak,— whatsapp messages, absolute hammer sunak, it could pave the way— hammer sunak, it could pave the way tor— hammer sunak, it could pave the way tor a— hammer sunak, it could pave the way tor a torre— hammer sunak, it could pave the way for a boris johnson return . way for a boris johnson return. wtat— way for a boris johnson return. what to— way for a boris johnson return. what to woo— way for a boris johnson return. what do you think ? i think but what do you think? i think but tw— what do you think? i think but to them— what do you think? i think but even by then the _ what do you think? i think but even by then the horse might tave— even by then the horse might have tottet— even by then the horse might have bolted because these mpwrw— have bolted because these moutrw tteee— have bolted because these inquiry, these hearings won't reattw— inquiry, these hearings won't really get— inquiry, these hearings won't really get underway until towarte— really get underway until towards the _ really get underway until towards the election or after tte— towards the election or after the election— towards the election or after the election . _ towards the election or after the election . i— towards the election or after the election . the election. i think that frankly , if the tories lose the frankly, if the tories lose the next election, few people here think that rishi sunak will hang around to be leader in opposition and that any way i think events overtake it. opposition and that any way i thiane're its overtake it. opposition and that any way i thiane're its to overtake it. opposition and that any way i thiane're its to see �*take it. opposition and that any way i thiane're its to see borist. and we're going to see boris johnson he to johnson come back if he wants to or someone else might step in. but that the political but i think that the political damage this inquiry for me damage from this inquiry for me is not really pre—election. it's somewhere the for me, somewhere in the future. for me, this about the civil service this is about the civil service concerned about setting a precedent for future inquiries and that's the problem. and chris, who is involved in these messages? so we've got boris totmeom— messages? so we've got boris totmeom. w-wee— messages? so we've got boris johnson, we've got— 3“ so we've got boris johnson, we've got rishi sunak. mere-e— johnson, we've got rishi sunak. ttere-e teem— johnson, we've got rishi sunak. there's been dominic cummings, johnson, we've got rishi sunak. there's a een dominic cummings, johnson, we've got rishi sunak. there's a few dominic cummings, johnson, we've got rishi sunak.

there's a few otheriic cummings, johnson, we've got rishi sunak. there's a few otheriic cumijust|s, there's a few other people just ewe—mameel there's a few other people just ewemamee— oti there's a few other people just. give—names of the give us some of the names of the peopte— give us some of the names of the peopte-cotta— give us some of the names of the peopte-coma te— give us some of the names of the people could be, well, people who could be, well, eweatme— people who could be, well,j eweatme—. people who could be, well,- sweating_. well, sweating a bit right now. well, it's sweating a bit right now. well, tte peopte— sweating a bit right now. well, it's people around— sweating a bit right now. well, it's people around at the time, isn't it? so as you say, rishi sunak sajid javid , although he sunak sajid javid, although he was around and then he left into the just before pushing out bods the just before pushing out boris johnson. others like nadine dorries. there's other others, other senior players like penny mordaunt and others. they'd all be worried . i mean to they'd all be worried. i mean to a lesser, lesser or more extent. but you think back, not not all of these ministers came out badly from them. we had, of course other ministers, junior ministers in the department of health concerned about the impact of the rule of six on a family of six. would that mean they with they can't see anybody with their concerns there about their other concerns there about about similar issues with a couple who've married for couple who've been married for 50 is it fair to for them 50 years. is it fair to for them not to be together? so think not to be together? so i think it save reputations as it can also save reputations as much as bury them. the problem is, once you give all this this tranche of information i tranche of information over, i mean, says mean, the government says they've given 52,000 documents, mean, the government says they've gthese 2,000 documents,

mean, the government says they've gthese these documents, mean, the government says they've gthese these emailsants, mean, the government says they've gthese these emails go ;, but once these these emails go overi but once these these emails go over i mean, 1 in 1 cabinet ministers phone, that's matt hancock, 100,000 messages, you know, times up by ten ministers. that's a million. once those go , go, that's a million. once those go , 90, 90 that's a million. once those go , go, go over, you have no control over how that information is dealt with. and when they all disclose as they will be, you don't know where that's going play. and the that's going to play. and the problem you're think problem is you're what i think is happening cabinet problem is you're what i think is hap behind cabinet problem is you're what i think is hap behind me, cabinet problem is you're what i think is hap behind me, parliament mps office behind me, parliament mps are trying to have a control over a judicial inquiry. the point about giving it to a judge is it moves it away from the executive, away from parliament. it's not their business anymore. you've got to let go and just let do her job, for better let her do her job, for better or for worse. and is the or for worse. and that is the problem. heart of this is problem. at the heart of this is the politicians, the officials , the politicians, the officials, civil servants to civil servants don't want to give that control someone give that control to someone they can't control. well, exactly. and nigel, who can ttame— exactly. and nigel, who can blame them?— elixiiweg and nigel, who can blame them? because we've had some members of— blame them? because we've had some members of civil some members of the civil sewtce— some members of the civil service launched some campaign aeamet— service launched some campaign against dominic— service launched some campaign against dominic raab, who managed— against dominic raab, who managed to— against dominic raab, who managed to lose his job despite meter—atl never shouting or swearing at amomew— never shouting or swearing at anyone-mattre- never shouting or swearing at anyone. having to put up anyone. and having to put up wttt— anyone. and having to put up wttt a— anyone. and having to put up wttt a ttote— anyone. and having to put up with a bloke who— anyone. and having to put up with a bloke who nearly made ettrattar— with a bloke who nearly made

gibrbriefings_ with a bloke who nearly made gibr briefings against suella had briefings against suella braverman. we've had issues when it braverman. we've had issues when tt-to— braverman. we've had issues when tt-to torre— braverman. we've had issues when it-to boris johnson.- braverman. we've had issues when it to boris johnson. we've it came to boris johnson. we've tat— it came to boris johnson. we've had revelations— it came to boris johnson. we've had revelations that somebody tmotwet— had revelations that somebody tmotwet m— had revelations that somebody involved in this— had revelations that somebody involved in this latest round of an involved in this latest round of am mpww— involved in this latest round of am mortw .— involved in this latest round of am mpww. we— involved in this latest round of am mpww. we te— involved in this latest round of an inquiry. he is indeed related to-warmam— an inquiry. he is indeed related to-warmam .— an inquiry. he is indeed related to-harman , for- an inquiry. he is indeed related to harman , for goodness to harriet harman, for goodness eate— to harriet harman, for goodness eateltetpet— to harriet harman, for goodness sake,-helped to— to harriet harman, for goodness sake, helped to over sake, and helped to hand over some information— sake, and helped to hand over some information police. some information to the police. i some information to the police. t-eartt— some information to the police. i-earth should- some information to the police. i-earth should the- i why on earth should the government— i why on earth should the| government—to i why on earth should the- government_to hand government be wanting to hand amwttme— government be wanting to hand amwtmor— government be wanting to hand amwtmorite— government be wanting to hand amwtmopite or— government be wanting to hand anyt no,] is our business. say, no, this is our business. wowe— say, no, this is our business. ttowe — say, no, this is our business. move on. well,— say, no, this is our business. move on. well, it's- say, no, this is our business. move on. it�*tiiiee . move on. well, it's not the government's business entirely. it's all our business. it's everybody in this country was affected by covid. and what we want to know is what is going to be done to actually stop this happening again . and now, happening again. and now, obviously, what heather hallett has got to go through is what mistakes were made, what lessons can be learned from what happened, and prepare us for another pandemic , which may be another pandemic, which may be around the corner for all we know. so i think this inquiry is crucial and the point at the moment is she wants to start pubuc moment is she wants to start public hearings within the next two weeks. and the government are clearly trying prevent are clearly trying to prevent her that. now the

her from doing that. now the pubuc her from doing that. now the public will actually make their own judgements, but certainly it feels like a cover up and i'm sure civil servants that you mentioned there are involved in this that they will be this too, that they will be mentioned whatsapp mentioned on these whatsapp messages. mentioned messages. they'll be mentioned in as they may not not in emails as they may not not not be happy with their own mistakes being revealed, but it feels like the cover up is because people recognise mistakes were made . but you know mistakes were made. but you know what mistakes were made. but you know wtat tappeme— mistakes were made. but you know wtat tappeme m— mistakes were made. but you know what happens in situations- : but you know what happens in situations like ttree— what happens in situations like this? speculation— what happens in situations like this? speculation people like us, me specifically wallow arma— us, me specifically wallow aromt m— us, me specifically wallow around in speculation and, you mow.— around in speculation and, you know ttte— around in speculation and, you know, this could— around in speculation and, you know, this could be anything, comm-t— know, this could be anything, comm-t tte— know, this could be anything, couldn't it? it— know, this could be anything, couldn't it? it could be amwttmp— couldn't it? it could be amwttmp to— couldn't it? it could be anything to do with what do peopte— anything to do with what do peopte mmt— anything to do with what do people think about vaccine eatetw— people think about vaccine safety before _ people think about vaccine safety before they telling safety before they were telling us safety before they were telling m-tattet- safety before they were telling m-tattet up- safety before they were telling m-tattet up to- safety before they were telling us jabbed up to the us all to get jabbed up to the ewetattee— us all to get jabbed up to the eyeballs?-be- us all to get jabbed up to the eyeballs? be well, eyeballs? it could be well, we mew—to - eyeballs? it could be well, we. knew _to bankrupt knew we were going to bankrupt the—decided - knew we were going to bankrupti the—decided that the country, but we decided that we going— the country, but we decided that we going to— the country, but we decided that we were going to have lockdown anyway. — we were going to have lockdown anyway. _ch anyway. it could be that, oh, actually,— anyway. it could be that, oh,- actuary—me. actually, goodness gracious me. we—sup— actually, goodness gracious me. we—suplfew- actually, goodness gracious me.| we _ slip lfew million we decided to slip a few million quid—was- we decided to slip a few million quid—was onel we decided to slip a few millioni quid—was of quid to someone who was one of our-orderlget- quid to someone who was one of our-orderlget masks| our mates in order to get masks rotted—n- our mates in order to get masks rolled—it couldi rolled out or whatever it could be.—gives— rolled out or whatever it could be.—gives that- be. but it just gives that relentless— be. but it just gives that. relentless _that relentless impression that somebody— relentless impression that- somebody-something, somebody is hiding something, doesn-t— somebody is hiding something, doesn-t-and— somebody is hiding something, doesn't and suspect doesn't it.7 and i suspect it might— doesn't it.7 and i suspect it might-wen- doesn't it.7 and i suspect it. might-well maybe might be either. well maybe a combination— might be either. well maybe a combination of— might be either. well maybe a combination of all of those things.— combination of all of those things-wen- combination of all of those

things-we'll-to. things. but we'll have to wait and— things. but we'll have to wait and-chm,— things. but we'll have to wait and-chris,-going. things. but we'll have to wait and chris, going to and see. chris, i am going to steer— and see. chris, i am going to steer-away— and see. chris, i am going to steer- away from - and see. chris, i am going to steer away from boris steer you away from boris johnson— steer you away from boris. johnson—going johnson right now. i'm going to steer—whatsappl steer you away from whatsapp. messages—hum messages and i'm going to hurtle you.— messages and i'm going to hurtle yo..-.o_ messages and i'm going to hurtle yo..-.o gently— messages and i'm going to hurtle you. no gently nudge you you. well, no gently nudge you gently— you. well, no gently nudge you gengy nugge— you. well, no gently nudge you gently nudge vou— you. well, no gently nudge you gently nudge you in the direction— gently nudge you in the direction-itv- gently nudge you in the direction itv because there's direction of itv because there's a more breaking— direction of itv because there's a more breaking news. there's another— a more breaking news. there's another scandal,— a more breaking news. there's another scandal, isn't there? segregate— another scandal, isn't there? scandals everywhere. what's going— scandals everywhere. what's going on? — scandals everywhere. what's going one ion— scandals everywhere. what's going on? it's big- scandals everywhere. what's going on? g jig " going on? it's big news. this. so you're aware of, of course, that the phillip schofield scandal, the fact that he was he quit itv , he's being forced out. quit itv, he's being forced out. there's a runner who worked on itv who he had met originally, reportedly in his teens. and then this guy got a job at at this morning. and then he left . this morning. and then he left. he's quite young and he was in a relationship with phillip schofield. he wasn't declared until very recently. well, extraordinarily today, as we speak, again, at 4:00 this afternoon, the department , the afternoon, the department, the culture, media and sport select committee has announced they have called dame carolyn mccall, who's the chief executive of itv, to give evidence to the to the mps two weeks yesterday. so

a week on wednesday, the 14th of june, to answer the questions about the broadcast approach to safeguarding and complaints handung safeguarding and complaints handling in the wake of the phillip schofield case. this is a nightmare for itv . we knew a nightmare for itv. we knew next week a guy called marcus brook is giving evidence to the same committee about media regulation . there have been regulation. there have been speculation that mr brook is a board member would be pushed on what itv knew and didn't know about the handling of this about this. the handling of this of this young young and of this young young person and the relationship with phillip schofield, lot schofield, of course, is a lot older now. it into the older now. it moves into the following week. it means 13 more days of uncertainty for itv while they work out what to say to a fish , to the mps, mps have to a fish, to the mps, mps have history here. they investigated safeguarding itv after the deaths of guests who appeared on the jeremy kyle programme and two former contestants on love island . and that's why they're island. and that's why they're looking at it. are worried looking at it. they are worried about how members of the public looking at it. they are worried abotreated members of the public looking at it. they are worried abotreated menwho of the public looking at it. they are worried abotreated menwho of th defend: are treated and who can't defend themselves . and this more of themselves. and this is more of a behind the camera a behind the behind the camera issue than in of

issue than in front of the camera therefore, issue than in front of the can a ra therefore, issue than in front of the can a corporate therefore, issue than in front of the cana corporate issue erefore, issue than in front of the cana corporate issue erei itv issue than in front of the cana corporate issue ereiitv . it's a corporate issue for itv. it keeps the scandal in the news. the pressure on news. they keep the pressure on itv get right and itv to get it right and i wonder, why where the wonder, frankly, why where the heads will start rolling at itv . we know phillip schofield is left . we know holly willoughby, left. we know holly willoughby, the co—presenters due back in work monday , but so far no work on monday, but so far no one else has gone. this will put the pressure more more on the pressure more on, more on itv will want to and don't itv will want to show. and don't forget got shareholders. forget itv got shareholders. they haven't got licence fee fee payers the they've got payers like the bbc. they've got shareholders. to shareholders. they want to demonstrate to shareholders they can damage from this can control the damage from this scandal. end ? as scandal. where will it end? as things stand, news this things stand, the news this afternoon breaking about five minutes dame carolyn minutes ago, that dame carolyn mccall chief executive , mccall is the chief executive, is giving evidence has been is giving evidence or has been called evidence as called to give evidence. as you say, at 10 am. on the 14th of june, a week, wednesday . we june, a week, wednesday. we don't know yet what itv say about that. look, we will keep you up to date on this. that is the news that— you up to date on this. that is the news that itv's_ you up to date on this. that is the news that itv's chief- c. : iii" that is the news that itv's chief exec is going— the news that itv's chief exec is going io— the news that itv's chief exec is going io ne— the news that itv's chief exec is going to be essentially noniei— is going to be essentially hauled before— is going to be essentially hauled before a panel to give evidence— hauled before a panel to give. evidence. _ much, evidence. thank you very much, cnnieioonen— christopher hope there, of course, broadcaster course, political broadcaster oni— course, political broadcaster and commentator. in and political commentator. in

noon— and political commentator. in noon-own— fact, our very own senior ooiiiieoi— fact, our very own senior political demoted political commentator on demoted you onene— political commentator on demoted you inene, nigei— political commentator on demoted you there, nigel nelson. so that ine— you there, nigel nelson. so that ine ino— you there, nigel nelson. so that was the two of— you there, nigel nelson. so that was the two of the— you there, nigel nelson. so that was the two of the big stories of ine— was the two of the big stories of one-vie— was the two of the big stories of the .we-going - was the two of the big storiesi of the .we-going .be of the day. we are going to be keeping— of the day. we are going to be keeping massively across both of nose.— keeping massively across both of nose. okay.— keeping massively across both of those. okay-that— keeping massively across both of those. okay. that deadline those. okay. so that deadline noe— those. okay. so that deadline nee—ooneel those. okay. so that deadline| has—comes for those. okay. so that deadline- has_comes for the has passed when it comes for the canine— has passed when it comes for the cabinet office— has passed when it comes for the cabinet office i hand - has passed when it comes for the cabinet office hand over cabinet office to hand over wnoieoine— cabinet office to hand over whatsapps diary entries, eieeieno— whatsapps diary entries, eioeieno ,— whatsapps diary entries, etcetera , to _ whatsapps diary entries, etcetera , to the covid 19 etcetera, to the covid 19 inquiry-— etcetera, to the covid 19 inquiry- wnoi— etcetera, to the covid 19 inquiry. what does this mean ? inquiry. what does this mean? viii— inquiry. what does this mean? iiiii onene— inquiry. what does this mean? will there be— inquiry. what does this mean? will there be a— inquiry. what does this mean? will there be a court case invoivei— will there be a court case invoivei 7— will there be a court case involved ? and- will there be a court case involved ? and you have to ask involved? and you have to ask yonneii— involved? and you have to ask yonneii ine — involved? and you have to ask yourself the question, there yourself the question, if there is yourself the question, if there ie—nny— yourself the question, if there ie—nny noe- yourself the question, if there is_why has the- is if there is, why has the government— is if there is, why has the government and specifically ieieni— government and specifically rishi sunak— government and specifically rishi sunak decided that it nonin— rishi sunak decided that it nonii ne— rishi sunak decided that it would be less— rishi sunak decided that it would be less damaging for there to would be less damaging for there io ne— would be less damaging for there io be e— would be less damaging for there io be e conn— would be less damaging for there to be a court case— would be less damaging for there to be a court case than it would for g..— to be a court case than it would for the revelations— to be a court case than it would for the revelations within these whatsapp— for the revelations within these whatsapp messages to out whatsapp messages to get out into— whatsapp messages to get out into g...— whatsapp messages to get out into the public— whatsapp messages to get out into the public domain? that is a into the public domain? that is oioeeinoing— into the public domain? that is a fascinating watch. the latest on-neii. — a fascinating watch. the latest on-neii. vee— a fascinating watch. the latest on well. yes, heads set on itv as well. yes, heads set to-ot— on itv as well. yes, heads set to—ot g...— on itv as well. yes, heads set to—ot ine ven- on itv as well. yes, heads set to-at the very top. on itv as well. yes, heads set to-at the very top .i to roll right at the very top. not— to roll right at the very top. on ion— to roll right at the very top. but for more— to roll right at the very top. but for more on— to roll right at the very top. but for more on both of those —oeeiveto- but for more on both of those massive _to gb- but for more on both of those. massive—to gb news massive stories, go to gb news eon—fini- .com where you will find the beg— .com where you will find the beet-oni— .com where you will find the best-and opinion. .com where you will find the best and opinion as best analysis and opinion as neu— best analysis and opinion as neii oe— best analysis and opinion as neii on g..— best analysis and opinion as well as the latest breaking vie— well as the latest breaking news. we spent— well as the latest breaking news. we spent £2.1 billion on oeyinn— news. we spent £2.1 billion on asylum seekers— news. we spent £2.1 billion on asylum seekers last year. that is on— asylum seekers last year. that is an increase— asylum seekers last year. that is an increase of— asylum seekers last year. that is an increase of almost 300% since— is an increase of almost 300% ine— is an increase of almost 300% since the conservative came to power.— since the conservative came to oowen in— since the conservative came to powe in going— since the conservative came to power. i'm going to be talking

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owi— force more than £150,000. find owi wnw— force more than £150,000. find owi wnw wew,— force more than £150,000. find owi wnw wew, wew— force more than £150,000. find out why very, very shortly. and ion-i— out why very, very shortly. and ion-i nine— out why very, very shortly. and ion-i nw— out why very, very shortly. and don't miss my interview with the ion— don't miss my interview with the ion ieoww— don't miss my interview with the tory deputy chairman, the one one— tory deputy chairman, the one and onw— tory deputy chairman, the one and oniw eee— tory deputy chairman, the one and only lee anderson , who'll be and only lee anderson, who'll be giving— and only lee anderson, who'll be giving nie— and only lee anderson, who'll be giving nie viewe— and only lee anderson, who'll be giving his views on— and only lee anderson, who'll be giving his views on just stop oil giving his views on just stop on iiioie— giving his views on just stop oil idiots as— giving his views on just stop oil idiots as they potentially iook— oil idiots as they potentially iook io— oil idiots as they potentially look to disrupt— oil idiots as they potentially look to disrupt the fa cup final oni— look to disrupt the fa cup final and evenining— look to disrupt the fa cup final and everything else. they held up and everything else. they held wn-onekei— and everything else. they held up-cricket this— and everything else. they held up cricket this morning and up the cricket this morning and the up the cricket this morning and ine eoonng— up the cricket this morning and the soaring cost,— up the cricket this morning and the soaring cost, soaring the soaring cost, the soaring cosi— the soaring cost, the soaring ooei oi— the soaring cost, the soaring cost of asylum _ the soaring cost, the soaring cost of asylum seekers . but just cost of asylum seekers. but just wnen— cost of asylum seekers. but just wnen wow— cost of asylum seekers. but just when you thought— cost of asylum seekers. but just when you thought the migrant oneie— when you thought the migrant crisis couldn't— when you thought the migrant crisis couldn't get any worse, bingo— crisis couldn't get any worse, iingo .— crisis couldn't get any worse, iingo . ite— crisis couldn't get any worse, bingo . it's another day. which bingo. it's another day. which means-clearly- bingo. it's another day. which means clearly has no new means that it clearly has no new figures— means that it clearly has no new figures-ine— means that it clearly has no new figures-the home- means that it clearly has no new figures the home office figures from the home office eveni— figures from the home office reveal-annual— figures from the home office reveal annual cost of asylum reveal the annual cost of asylum oioine— reveal the annual cost of asylum oioine oni— reveal the annual cost of asylum claims and processes has gwoiwniei— claims and processes has quadrupled since 2010 to a massive £2.1— quadrupled since 2010 to a massive £2.1 billion. and according— massive £2.1 billion. and according to— massive £2.1 billion. and according to the labour party, inn— according to the labour party, not figure— according to the labour party, inoi iigwe ie— according to the labour party, that figure is expected to rise. no that figure is expected to rise. wo noi— that figure is expected to rise. wo noi ii— that figure is expected to rise. wo noi if new— that figure is expected to rise. no not if they come into office. nui— no not if they come into office. on even— no not if they come into office. but even more— no not if they come into office. but even more when this year's iigwee— but even more when this year's iigwee one— but even more when this year's figures are released , as figures are released, as eeiinoiee— figures are released, as estimates show that an extra m— estimates show that an extra m iiiiion— estimates show that an extra £2.4 billion could be used from the £2.4 billion could be used from ine oveneoe— £2.4 billion could be used from the overseas overseas budget. ioev— the overseas overseas budget. ioev ion— the overseas overseas budget. ioev for me— the overseas overseas budget. ioev ion ne io— the overseas overseas budget. easy for me to say— the overseas overseas budget. easy for me to say to help deal win— easy for me to say to help deal wiin ine— easy for me to say to help deal with the asylum _ easy for me to say to help deal with the asylum crisis in 2020. iii— with the asylum crisis in 2020. in au— with the asylum crisis in 2020. iii oi oi— with the asylum crisis in 2020. but all of this— with the asylum crisis in 2020. but all of this is— with the asylum crisis in 2020. but all of this is a— with the asylum crisis in 2020. but all of this is a fudge okay, ieeowee— but all of this is a fudge okay, ieeowee ine— but all of this is a fudge okay, because the real— but all of this is a fudge okay, because the real cost is a lot nignen — because the real cost is a lot nignen joining— because the real cost is a lot higher. joining me now is the one— higher. joining me now is the iorrner sky— higher. joining me now is the former sky political correspondent peter spencer.

peren— correspondent peter spencer. ieieninonk— correspondent peter spencer. peter, thank you _ correspondent peter spencer. peter, thank you very, very much . is peter, thank you very, very much .—ie o— peter, thank you very, very much .—ie o inge- peter, thank you very, very much .—ie o nwge enn- peter, thank you very, very much ._is a huge sum ofi . i mean, this is a huge sum of money— . i mean, this is a huge sum of nonew-ani— . i mean, this is a huge sum of money, and actually, money, isn't it? and actually, it money, isn't it? and actually, ii-gwiie— money, isn't it? and actually, ii-gwiie ieii- money, isn't it? and actually, it-quite tell-fulll it doesn't quite tell the full eiorv—ore- it doesn't quite tell the fulli story—are mixing it doesn't quite tell the full- story_are mixing up story because we are mixing up nere— story because we are mixing up nere ininge— story because we are mixing up here things-our— story because we are mixing up here things our foreign aid here things like our foreign aid iwigei— budget, which is now rather ekiiiwiiv— budget, which is now rather skilfully-spent- budget, which is now rather skilfully spent here with skilfully being spent here with ioreign— skilfully being spent here with ioreign neopre— skilfully being spent here with foreign people, essentially. vow-ve— foreign people, essentially. vow-ve oieo— foreign people, essentially. you've also got— foreign people, essentially. you've also got the cost of ioreig— you've also got the cost of noieie, ini— you've also got the cost of hotels, but then - you've also got the cost of hotels, but then of course, vow-ve— hotels, but then of course, vow-ve goi— hotels, but then of course, vow-ve goi ine— hotels, but then of course, you've got the cost of us just iwiiiing— you've got the cost of us just building housing— you've got the cost of us just building housing and infrastructure. the infrastructure. i mean, the reoiiiv— infrastructure. i mean, the reoiiiv ie— infrastructure. i mean, the reality is we— infrastructure. i mean, the reality is we are spending a inge— reality is we are spending a nwge ornowni— reality is we are spending a huge amount of— reality is we are spending a huge amount of money on asylum eeeerek— huge amount of money on asylum eeeerek . inor— huge amount of money on asylum seekers. that is— huge amount of money on asylum seekers . that is absolutely seekers. that is absolutely irwe. — seekers. that is absolutely irwe. ini— seekers. that is absolutely true. but behind- seekers. that is absolutely true. i: true. but behind that is the reality of what in god's name is the home office up to ? they have the home office up to? they have a backlog now which gets bigger and bigger . a backlog now which gets bigger and bigger. it would appear that with something like 7000 people crossing in small boats, they're managing to process each year. about 60 of them now , on that about 60 of them now, on that basis, i never quite trust my mathematics , but i reckon it mathematics, but i reckon it would take them about 3000 odd years to sort it out. now how hard would it be? i mean , i kid hard would it be? i mean, i kid you not. i mean, how hard would

it be for suella bucha de—man the home secretary to hire a quite a few extra people to sort this lock? i mean , mean as it this lock? i mean, mean as it is, they've seen the figures inexorably rising and they've doneit inexorably rising and they've done it will appear absolutely nothing about it. i mean, no wonder suella braverman wants to see the new illegal migration bill get past the house of lords, back to the commons and into legislation because effectively what that would do is people who come across here, they'd bang them up and then they'd bang them up and then they'd chuck them out so she wouldn't have the problem of, of , of sorting out, processing claims. it's worth remembering, by the way, that about three quarters of them, when they do finally get round to it before they die of old age or whatever they die of old age or whatever they allowed asylum. yeah. well i'm not surprised though, because clearly if you've got this massive backlog and they are doing absolutely nothing about ,i are doing absolutely nothing about , i wouldn't mind as about it, i wouldn't mind as well. lot of the people

well. but a lot of the people inor— well. but a lot of the people inn-io— well. but a lot of the people inoi-io eee— well. but a lot of the people that. do see - seem . but a lot of the people that do see seem to well. but a lot of the people- that-do see-seem to end that you do see who seem to end up that you do see who seem to end “ii—this- up in the schools in this eownirv— up in the schools in this country have got full beards and inev— country have got full beards and inev-oiowi— country have got full beards and inev-oiowi io. — country have got full beards and they-about 40. so- country have got full beards and they-about 40. so i- they look about 40. so i gweeiion— they look about 40. so i question whether or not some oeonie— question whether or not some neonie—ioing- people are actually doing envining— anything about this. but then inen—eone- anything about this. but then then some people then they wave some people inrowgn— then they wave some people through-home- then they wave some people through home office to through for the home office to be through for the home office to ie proeeeeing— through for the home office to be processing something like through for the home office to be ppeopletg something like through for the home office to be ppeople a something like through for the home office to be ppeople a week thing like through for the home office to be ppeople a week is ng like through for the home office to be ppeople a week is an like five people a week is an oieoiwie— five people a week is an absolute scandal for all. for all absolute scandal for all. for oi oi— absolute scandal for all. for oi oi ine— absolute scandal for all. for all of the cost,— absolute scandal for all. for all of the cost, for all of the cone— all of the cost, for all of the eoeie inni— all of the cost, for all of the costs that the— all of the cost, for all of the costs that the people talking abori— costs that the people talking about rwanda— costs that the people talking about rwanda and for what we're going— about rwanda and for what we're doing wrong— about rwanda and for what we're doing abroad and— about rwanda and for what we're doing abroad and for hotels about rwanda and for what we're dcan'tabroad and for hotels about rwanda and for what we're dcan'tabroejustid for hotels about rwanda and for what we're dcan'tabroejustid for moreels . can't you just employ more neonie— . can't you just employ more people_office?l people at the home office? i mean , you would think it is an mean, you would think it is an oieoiwie— mean, you would think it is an absolute total— mean, you would think it is an absolute total no— mean, you would think it is an absolute total no brainer, wowiin-i— absolute total no brainer, wouldn't you? " absolute total no brainer, wouldn't you? c wouldn't you? i mean, as it is as we speak, there is the prime minister out in a european gathering trying to sort out with various countries to sort of stop the problem at source by preventing the people, the people smugglers , from getting people smugglers, from getting hold of little dinghies or whatever. but that does rather come across as trying to whack a few molehills and ignoring the mountain, which is sitting around the cabinet table . that

around the cabinet table. that is to say, suella bravo . and it is to say, suella bravo. and it is to say, suella bravo. and it ie evnpionoiio— is to say, suella bravo. and it is symptomatic ,— is to say, suella bravo. and it is symptomatic , i— is to say, suella bravo. and it is symptomatic , i think,- and it is symptomatic , i think, of is symptomatic, i think, of wnere— is symptomatic, i think, of wnere we— is symptomatic, i think, of where we are— is symptomatic, i think, of where we are as- is symptomatic, i think, of where we are as a country right wnien— where we are as a country right wnion ie— where we are as a country right now, which is we— where we are as a country right now, which is we wait for a nroiien — now, which is we wait for a nroiien io— now, which is we wait for a problem to arrive and become ingroinei— problem to arrive and become ingroinei oni— problem to arrive and become ingrained and then we try and eon— ingrained and then we try and eori ii— ingrained and then we try and eori ii owi— ingrained and then we try and eori ii owi oe— ingrained and then we try and sort it out as opposed to maybe geiiing— sort it out as opposed to maybe geiiing oneoi— sort it out as opposed to maybe getting ahead of— sort it out as opposed to maybe getting ahead of that problem. so getting ahead of that problem. so weve— getting ahead of that problem. so goi— getting ahead of that problem. so we've got this— getting ahead of that problem. so we've got this thing now abori— so we've got this thing now about,-look,- so we've got this thing now about, look, we're about, oh, well, look, we're ienoriing— deporting several albanian orininoie— deporting several albanian criminals to criminals and we've managed to erog— criminals and we've managed to eioo aiionione— criminals and we've managed to stop albanians coming over. war,— stop albanians coming over. wen, inoi-e— stop albanians coming over. well, that's all— stop albanians coming over. well, that's all right. but we iii— well, that's all right. but we iii-ine— well, that's all right. but we did the albanian gangs to did allow the albanian gangs to grip— did allow the albanian gangs to grip or— did allow the albanian gangs to grip our streets— did allow the albanian gangs to grip our streets here. and they are grip our streets here. and they noi— grip our streets here. and they noi going— grip our streets here. and they are not going anywhere. the vast noioriiv— are not going anywhere. the vast noioriiv oi— are not going anywhere. the vast majority of those _ are not going anywhere. the vast majority of those people and we say ,— majority of those people and we now , wen, — majority of those people and we saw , wen, goon— majority of those people and we say , well, gosh, know, we've say, well, gosh, you know, we've got say, well, gosh, you know, we've goi—io — say, well, gosh, you know, we've goi—io nui- say, well, gosh, you know, we've goi—io noi inenl say, well, gosh, you know, we've got—to put them ini got to we've got to put them in noieie— got to we've got to put them in noieie-we — got to we've got to put them in hotels-we haven't- hotels because we haven't been iwiiiing—ior- building enough houses for oieoiwieiv— absolutely years or we're just now getting involved with iwigorio— now getting involved withi iwigorio—irv now getting involved with. iwigorio—irv io bulgaria and turkey to try to erog— bulgaria and turkey to try to stop-boats— bulgaria and turkey to try to stop boats actually arriving stop the boats actually arriving at stop the boats actually arriving orneoni-— stop the boats actually arriving at-mean, these - stop the boats actually arriving at mean, these are all at calais. i mean, these are all nroiiene— at calais. i mean, these are all nroiiene now— at calais. i mean, these are all problems now that— at calais. i mean, these are all problems now that that we problems now that we are that we are problems now that we are that we ieoiing— problems now that we are that we are dealing with— problems now that we are that we are dealing with or— problems now that we are that we are dealing with or we are dealing with or that we snowi— are dealing with or that we should have— are dealing with or that we should have been dealing with to ore—engi— should have been dealing with to ore—enni ii.— should have been dealing with to ore—enni iiloi— should have been dealing with to pre—empt it. of course . q" pre—empt it. no of course. of ii— pre—empt it. no of course. of ii is. — pre—empt it. no of course. of course it is. because,- pre—empt it. no of course. of course it is. because, i- pre—empt it. no of course. of course it is. because, i mean, i mean, we get these figures that we're talking about at this moment. reason why we're moment. the reason why we're talking about this moment is because in recess. because parliament's in recess. and giving the labour and so it's giving the labour

party chance to them up. party a chance to big them up. but figures, it's been but these figures, it's been known for a long, long time that there is a monumental problem building up here and i mean, it is it seems to me it's to the eternals. i mean , i've always eternals. i mean, i've always described the home office in my years at sky news as being the ministry for things that go wrong. but this is this is a up on the most spectacular level for god's sake. good stuff. iron— for god's sake. good stuff. iron ieier. — for god's sake. good stuff. luck, peter. thank- ci:::ii: good stuff. luck, peter. thank you very noon. — luck, peter. thank you very noon. ereoi— luck, peter. thank you very much. great to— luck, peter. thank you very much. great to chat speak to you ieier— much. great to chat speak to you soon. peter spencer— much. great to chat speak to you soon. peter spencer there. iorner— soon. peter spencer there. iorner sky— soon. peter spencer there. former sky news political correspondent.— former sky news political correspondent. loads correspondent. anyway, loads eiiii— correspondent. anyway, loads more still to— correspondent. anyway, loads more still to come . between now more still to come. between now one— more still to come. between now and s— more still to come. between now and s on.— more still to come. between now and 5 tim i— more still to come. between now one 5 tim i viii— more still to come. between now and 5 pm. i will get the reooiion— and 5 pm. i will get the reaction-great- and 5 pm. i will get the reaction great new reaction to the great new wonieriwi— reaction to the great new wonderful news that and wonderful news that harry and iiegnon— meghan are going to finally shut up. meghan are going to finally shut in. .annoreniiv— meghan are going to finally shut up. apparently whinge up. yes apparently whinge and ginge— up. yes apparently whinge and ginge-decided_ up. yes apparently whinge and ginge-decided to- up. yes apparently whinge and ginge decided to stop ginge have decided to stop eiogging— ginge have decided to stop shagging-the- ginge have decided to stop slagging the family ginge have decided to stop- slagging.the-family on slagging off the royal family on menin— slagging off the royal family on netflix.-after- slagging off the royal family on netflix.-after 5:00- slagging off the royal family on netflix. after 5:00 i netflix. and just after 5:00 i on — netflix. and just after 5:00 i on going— netflix. and just after 5:00 i on going io— netflix. and just after 5:00 i on going io ne— netflix. and just after 5:00 i am going to be talking to the ion— am going to be talking to the ion nag...— am going to be talking to the tory bruiser, lee— am going to be talking to the tory bruiser, lee anderson , and tory bruiser, lee anderson, and he tory bruiser, lee anderson, and ne noe— tory bruiser, lee anderson, and ne noe goi— tory bruiser, lee anderson, and ne noe goi o— tory bruiser, lee anderson, and he has got a lot— tory bruiser, lee anderson, and he has got a lot to— tory bruiser, lee anderson, and he has got a lot to say. but now as he has got a lot to say. but now on vow— he has got a lot to say. but now as your headlines— he has got a lot to say. but now as your headlines with polly .

as your headlines with polly. ioirien— as your headlines with polly. patrick, thank— as your headlines with polly. patrick, thank you. the top series— patrick, thank you. the top sioriee on— patrick, thank you. the top stories on gb news this hour. the prime minister says the government is confident in its position as the deadline has passed to respond to the covid inquiries . passed to respond to the covid inquiries. demand passed to respond to the covid inquiries . demand for full inquiries. demand for full disclosure of boris johnson's private messages and papers is rishi sunak has been speaking in moldova ahead of the deadline to release the former prime minister's message is the cabinet office. previously argued the material was irrelevant and claimed it didn't have to reveal it . but last have to reveal it. but last night former prime minister night the former prime minister mr johnson, handed over and mr johnson, handed it over and urged the government to pass it on. well, i think it's really inoorioni— on. well, i think it's really important that— iii" well, i think it's really important that we learn the ieeeone— important that we learn the ieeeone oi— important that we learn the lessons of covid so that we can be ieiier— lessons of covid so that we can be better prepared— lessons of covid so that we can be better prepared in the future for. be better prepared in the future ior. ani— be better prepared in the future ior. ani were— be better prepared in the future for. and we're doing that in a enirii— for. and we're doing that in a enirii oi— for. and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour,— for. and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour, but also transparency— spirit of rigour, but also transparency and candour. we've eooneroiei— transparency and candour. we've eooneroiei .— transparency and candour. we've cooperated . the— transparency and candour. we've cooperated . the government has cooperated. the government has eooneroiei— cooperated. the government has cooperated thoroughly with the inguin— cooperated thoroughly with the ingwirv ioiow— cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry today, handing over tens of inquiry today, handing over tens oi inoweonie— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of documents . and of thousands of documents. and we viii— of thousands of documents. and we will continue— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to comply , of we will continue to comply, of wiin— we will continue to comply, of course, with the— we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and eooneroie— course, with the law and cooperate with - course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry. vie-re — cooperate with the inquiry. we're confident in our position , ini— we're confident in our position , iwi re— we're confident in our position , but are carefully— we're confident in our position , but are carefully considering nevi— , but are carefully considering nevi siege—

, but are carefully considering nevi eiene .— , but are carefully considering next steps . the— , but are carefully considering next steps . the breaking news next steps. the breaking news inie— next steps. the breaking news we nonr— next steps. the breaking news we now ie— next steps. the breaking news this hour is that— next steps. the breaking news this hour is that the itv chief eeowiive — this hour is that the itv chief executive, dame— this hour is that the itv chief executive, dame carolyn mccall, noe— executive, dame carolyn mccall, noe ieen— executive, dame carolyn mccall, has been asked— executive, dame carolyn mccall, has been asked to— executive, dame carolyn mccall, has been asked to face questions iron— has been asked to face questions iron irre— has been asked to face questions iron iiie on— has been asked to face questions from mps on the— has been asked to face questions from mps on the tv— has been asked to face questions from mps on the tv daytime tv programme— from mps on the tv daytime tv programme inie— from mps on the tv daytime tv programme this morning, row at a oi— programme this morning, row at a oi ine— programme this morning, row at a session of the culture, media oni— session of the culture, media and snori— session of the culture, media and sport committee on the june wrin— and sport committee on the june iiin oi— and sport committee on the june win oi rnne. — and sport committee on the june 14th of june- in— and sport committee on the june 14th of june. in a— and sport committee on the june 14th of june. " 14th of june. in a letter to the dcms, dame mccall says philip made assurances which he now acknowledges were untrue. and we at itv feel badly let down. it follows the fallout surrounding the television presenter phillip schofield's admission of a relationship with the younger male colleague at the daytime tv show and the labour mp geraint davies has been suspended from the labour party following allegations of complete unacceptable behaviour. labour is calling the allegations incredibly serious and has encouraged anyone with a complaint to come forward. the swansea west mp has had the whip removed while a review is carried out out. more on all those stories by heading to our website . gb news .com .

website. gb news .com. well, prince harry website. gb news .com.. - well, prince harry and website. gb news .com.— - well, prince harry and meghan website. gb news .com.— - well, prigoing arry and meghan website. gb news .com.— - well, prigoing toy and meghan website. gb news .com.— - well, prigoing to sparemeghan website. gb news .com.— - well, prigoing to spare usghan are reported going to spare us any— are reported going to spare us on inner— are reported going to spare us on inner iiv— are reported going to spare us any further fly on— are reported going to spare us any further fly on the wall documentaries— any further fly on the wall documentaries ? not that there documentaries? not that there ie— documentaries? not that there ie noon— documentaries? not that there can be much more that they noven-i— can be much more that they noven-i-oni- can be much more that theyi haven't-and-to haven't told us and going to ioewe— haven't told us and going to ioowe on— haven't told us and going to focus on being— haven't told us and going to focus on being behind the cameras instead hopefully really far cameras instead hopefully really ior ienini— cameras instead hopefully really far behind the— cameras instead hopefully really far behind the cameras somewhere in o— far behind the cameras somewhere in o noiiei— far behind the cameras somewhere in a padded room— far behind the cameras somewhere in a padded room ,— far behind the cameras somewhere in a padded room , possibly at a in a padded room, possibly at a ioonei— in a padded room, possibly at a locked facility— in a padded room, possibly at a locked facility .— in a padded room, possibly at a locked facility . but yes, locked facility. but yes, oeeoriing— locked facility. but yes, according to _ locked facility. but yes, according to the sun, the duke oni— according to the sun, the duke and oneness— according to the sun, the duke and duchess of— according to the sun, the duke and duchess of woe is me. sorry eweeen— and duchess of woe is me. sorry sweeev eweeen— and duchess of woe is me. sorry sussex, sussex are— and duchess of woe is me. sorry sussex, sussex are going to stop ioening— sussex, sussex are going to stop ioening ine— sussex, sussex are going to stop bashing the royal— sussex, sussex are going to stop bashing the royal family in ineir— bashing the royal family in ineir ieii— bashing the royal family in their tell all— bashing the royal family in their tell all books and netflix enowe— their tell all books and netflix enowe-nove— their tell all books and netflix shows. have lashed out at shows. they have lashed out at the shows. they have lashed out at ine king. — shows. they have lashed out at the king. they've— shows. they have lashed out at the king. they've lashed out at canin— the king. they've lashed out at camilla. they've _ the king. they've lashed out at camilla. they've slagged off wiiiion — camilla. they've slagged off. william _quitting william and kate since quitting the william and kate since quitting ine iirn— william and kate since quitting ine iirn oni— william and kate since quitting the firm and uprooting to california— the firm and uprooting to california in— the firm and uprooting to california in 2020 for a life of privacy— california in 2020 for a life of privacy oni— california in 2020 for a life of privacy and rearing chickens and:— privacy and rearing chickens one, oi— privacy and rearing chickens and, of course,— privacy and rearing chickens and, of course, crying relentlessly- and, of course, crying relentlessly into oprah's bosom. ioining— relentlessly into oprah's bosom. ioining ne— relentlessly into oprah's bosom. ioining ne now— relentlessly into oprah's bosom. joining me now is— relentlessly into oprah's bosom. joining me now is royal iiogronner— joining me now is royal biographer angela levin . angela, biographer angela levin. angela, is biographer angela levin. angela, ie inie— biographer angela levin. angela, ie we gooe— biographer angela levin. angela, is this good news?— biographer angela levin. angela, is this good news? harry and iiegnon— is this good news? harry and iiegnon re— is this good news? harry and meghan are going to shut up now?

view— meghan are going to shut up now? wen, i— meghan are going to shut up now? wen, i iorei— meghan are going to shut up now? well, i burst out— meghan are going to shut up now? well, i burst out laughing ieeowee— well, i burst out laughing ieeowee ii— well, i burst out laughing because it reminded me of south iorn- — because it reminded me of south iorn- vie— because it reminded me of south iorn- vie re— because it reminded me of south park. we are going— because it reminded me of south park. we are going to- because it reminded me of south park. gt» 9 park. we are going to be quiet. we are going to be quiet- park. we are going to be quiet. we are going to be quiet . - park. gt» 9 we are going to be quiet. park. we are going to be quiet. we are going to be quiet. but i ion-i— we are going to be quiet. but i ion-i ieiieve— we are going to be quiet. but i don't believe a— we are going to be quiet. but i don't believe a word of it. they can't it's not in their nature now . and if they are quiet, then now. and if they are quiet, then everyone will forget them. and that's the last thing meghan would want . and i think the idea would want. and i think the idea that they're going to be behind the cameras is also a nonsense because cause they've got no experience of this . so they're experience of this. so they're going to have lots of people doing it for them and actually i can't see that netflix is going to like that. and anyway , they to like that. and anyway, they mean they don't know anything about it. and so how are they going to really, really do ? and going to really, really do? and i don't think people are interested in in directors and producers actually, they're interested in the people, the stars . i interested in the people, the stars. i mean, if interested in the people, the stars . i mean, if the rumours stars. i mean, if the rumours irre— stars. i mean, if the rumours irwe abori— stars. i mean, if the rumours are true about one- i mean, if the rumours are true about one of the a—ieveie— are true about one of the a—levels that— are true about one of the a—levels that harry got and you know—

a—levels that harry got and you know, presumably— a—levels that harry got and you know, presumably it will indeed be eoneioiv— know, presumably it will indeed be somebody else— know, presumably it will indeed be somebody else doing it, but angein— be somebody else doing it, but some. angela, when it comes to a nine— some. angela, when it comes to a iiiiie ineorv— some. angela, when it comes to a little theory that— some. angela, when it comes to a little theory that i've got, i wani— little theory that i've got, i woni io— little theory that i've got, i want to float— little theory that i've got, i want to float this out there. iei-e— want to float this out there. iei-e inw— want to float this out there. let's talk of— want to float this out there. let's talk of harry potentially being— let's talk of harry potentially ieing ienonei— let's talk of harry potentially being deported over lying about drug— being deported over lying aboutj orig—onniieoiion drug use on his visa application inni— drug use on his visa application inoi-weii— drug use on his visa application that-well mean— drug use on his visa application that well mean that he comes that may well mean that he comes nook— that may well mean that he comes ioenliriioin. — that may well mean that he comes back-britain. and— that may well mean that he comes back britain. and now, just back to britain. and now, just as back to britain. and now, just oe ineee— back to britain. and now, just oe ineee iwo— back to britain. and now, just as these two things coming as these two things are coming to as these two things are coming io-inere-e— as these two things are coming io-inere-e o— as these two things are coming to there's a promise to to a head, there's a promise to eion—ow- to a head, there's a promise toi stop—our monarchy to a head, there's a promise to. stop—our monarchy . stop slagging off our monarchy. i stop slagging off our monarchy. i-eowii— stop slagging off our monarchy. i-eowii-oii- stop slagging off our monarchy. i-could-all be- stop slagging off our monarchy. i could all be coming i mean, could this all be coming iogeiner—inie- i mean, could this all be coming together—this is. together? do you think this is ieeowee— together? do you think this is because-feels- together? do you think this is because _feels as. together? do you think this is- because _feels as though because he maybe feels as though nee— because he maybe feels as though ne-e going— because he maybe feels as though ne-e going io— because he maybe feels as though he's going to have— because he maybe feels as though he's going to have to come back to he's going to have to come back io—iiegnnn- he's going to have to come back io—iiegnnn ie| he's going to have to come back. io—iiegnnn ie on to blighty? i think meghan is an arch plotter. i think she's really good at it. and of course it can be. but the other thing is that we've known, we've been through this before. they were going to move to a bigger house because they didn't want to stay in they are going in montego. they they are going to be so they're going to go to africa and they haven't gone there . they get meghan was going there. they get meghan was going to write several novels and none of them have come off except the one about the bench, which was really be too appalling for

words . and so i think they just words. and so i think they just do this to take people's mind off what's important and what is important is, is the next tuesday when there's going to be in america the side whether they should release the document that harry signed before he went over there . and they don't want there. and they don't want people talking about that. so you might be right and i might be right. we both might be right because it's all a part of it. it you know, indeed. i mean, i launched it you know, indeed. i mean, i iornenei on— :: imean,i launched an impassioned plea veeieriov— launched an impassioned plea yesterday directly straight down the yesterday directly straight down ine iorei— yesterday directly straight down ine iorrei io— yesterday directly straight down the barrel to president joe iiien— the barrel to president joe iiien io— the barrel to president joe biden to please , for the love of biden to please, for the love of god:— biden to please, for the love of eon io— biden to please, for the love of eon io noi— biden to please, for the love of god, do not give— biden to please, for the love of god, do not give prince harry noon— god, do not give prince harry noon io— god, do not give prince harry noon io — god, do not give prince harry back to us. but— god, do not give prince harry back to us. but i— god, do not give prince harry back to us. but i mean, is this ine— back to us. but i mean, is this ine reoiiiw— back to us. but i mean, is this the reality, though, that harry, if the reality, though, that harry, iilnoe— the reality, though, that harry, if.has indeed— the reality, though, that harry, if has indeed lied about his if he has indeed lied about his drug— if he has indeed lied about his orig-nie— if he has indeed lied about his orig-nie vieo— drug use in his visa application, drug use in his visa- application,-deported application, will be deported iron— application, will be deported iron ine— application, will be deported from the united— application, will be deported from the united states ? venice from the united states? well, i woven— from the united states? well, i looked everything up yesterday on this, and quite decent in the united states that if you are not taking drugs of that moment and you're trying to give up,

then they sort of will let you stay or or if you don't give it up and you say you will, then they try you again and decide on that. so it's not actually really harsh. the same about cocaine, apparently . that's cocaine, apparently. that's something that you absolutely mustn't take, except it's taken all over the place. it's very popular . the all over the place. it's very popular. the most popular country in the world, taking a sniff , doing country in the world, taking a sniff, doing cocaine. so i don't know that they would do that. what would really annoy me is actually if he use the all the advantages he's had of being a member of the royal family to stay in another country and actually be incredibly rude about us. and his own family. i think that's shocking . think that's shocking. absolutely shocking . i mean, if absolutely shocking. i mean, if there is any absolutely shocking. i mean, if inere ie any i— absolutely shocking. i mean, if there is any if there— absolutely shocking. i mean, if there is any if there is- ' cizgg f g i mean, if there is any if there is any preferential— there is any if there is any preferential treatment, it would iiieroiiv— preferential treatment, it would iiieroiiv ie— preferential treatment, it would literally be be— preferential treatment, it would literally be be because he is

prince— literally be be because he is irinee nonw— literally be be because he is prince harry. therefore because nee— prince harry. therefore because ne-e o— prince harry. therefore because ne-e o produci— prince harry. therefore because he's a product by— prince harry. therefore because he's a product by complete concen— he's a product by complete eoneen ,— he's a product by complete chance , use— he's a product by complete chance , use of— he's a product by complete chance , use of the family that chance, use of the family that he chance, use of the family that ne noe— chance, use of the family that ne noe been— chance, use of the family that he has been slating and of the connin— he has been slating and of the eownirv inni— he has been slating and of the country that he— he has been slating and of the country that he has been eioiing. — country that he has been slating. and— country that he has been slating. and therefore, if you get slating. and therefore, if you gei env— slating. and therefore, if you get any privilege of that, get any privilege out of that, inni— get any privilege out of that, that seemed— get any privilege out of that, that seemed-bit- get any privilege out of that, that seemed bit rum. that seemed a little bit rum. wneiner— that seemed a little bit rum. whether—smart. that seemed a little bit rum.- whether_smart enough whether or not he's smart enough to realise their utter hypocrisyv - to realise their utter hypocrisy, is to realise their utter- hypocrisy,-is another is hypocrisy, there is another is none— hypocrisy, there is another is another thing. _ hypocrisy, there is another is another thing. but andrew, you ion-i— another thing. but andrew, you ion-i-inoi— another thing. but andrew, you don't-that they've- another thing. but andrew, you don't that they've got it don't think that they've got it in-io— don't think that they've got it in-io iwei— don't think that they've got it in _to just shut- don't think that they've got it in to just shut up go in them to just shut up and go avow— in them to just shut up and go wow-vow— in them to just shut up and go away,-you think- in them to just shut up and go away, you think that away, do you? you think that inie— away, do you? you think that inielinere-e— away, do you? you think that this there's going to be more this is there's going to be more orowni— this is there's going to be more around-corner— this is there's going to be more around-corner ? - this is there's going to be more around-corner ? i- this is there's going to be more around corner ? around the corner? i think iiegnnn— around the corner? i think meghan very good at meghan is very good at pretending no longer pretending things are no longer there and moving on. she's so hungry for to be known and to be respected and to cause herself global. everything she does is global. everything she does is global. she's got huge plans and she's not going to be tied down or shut up by these. what she would think are small things . would think are small things. that's that's. thank you very neon— that's that's. thank you very neon angeio— that's that's. thank you very much, angela levin,- thank you very much, angela levin, always an oieoiwie— much, angela levin, always an absolute pleasure. this is a enone— absolute pleasure. this is a enone vow— absolute pleasure. this is a shame you couldn't make it into the shame you couldn't make it into ine eiwiio— shame you couldn't make it into the studio this— shame you couldn't make it into the studio this time. but i will vow— the studio this time. but i will see you soon. angela levin nere— see you soon. angela levin were—ine- see you soon. angela levini there,_the royal

there, of course, is the royal iiogronner— there, of course, is the royal biographer favourite there, of course, is the royal biograp gb favourite there, of course, is the royal biograp gb news. favourite there, of course, is the royal biograp gb news. whatiurite there, of course, is the royal biograp gb news. what do te there, of course, is the royal biograp gb news. what do you here at gb news. what do you none— here at gb news. what do you make oi— here at gb news. what do you make of that?— here at gb news. what do you make of that? i'm— here at gb news. what do you make of that? i'm not sure inev-re— make of that? i'm not sure inev-re-wn- make of that? i'm not sure they're-up and. make of that? i'm not sure. they're-up and going they're shutting up and going away— they're shutting up and going away onwiine— they're shutting up and going away anytime soon, are but away anytime soon, are you? but if away anytime soon, are you? but ii—nove- if rishi sunak didn't have enowgn— if rishi sunak didn't have enowgn-on- if rishi sunak didn't have enough _on, he's enough problems on, well, he's now-more than— enough problems on, well, he's now-more than-of- enough problems on, well, he's. now-more than .of-mps now got more than 50 of his mps ieiiing—wnoi- now got more than 50 of his mps telling—what they. telling him to scrap what they eoii— telling him to scrap what they eoiilnoroiiv— telling him to scrap what they call morally wrong tax. i've call a morally wrong tax. i've been— call a morally wrong tax. i've been oeking— call a morally wrong tax. i've been asking you— call a morally wrong tax. i've been asking you about this all. snow— been asking you about this all. snow ine— been asking you about this all. show the emails— been asking you about this all. show the emails have been ioeeinoiing— show the emails have been fascinating. do— show the emails have been fascinating. do you think that innerii— fascinating. do you think that innerii inv— fascinating. do you think that inherit tax should be scrapped ? inherit tax should be scrapped? you work— inherit tax should be scrapped? you worn on— inherit tax should be scrapped? you work all your— inherit tax should be scrapped? you work all your life. you pay vow— you work all your life. you pay your iovee— you work all your life. you pay your taxes all— you work all your life. you pay your taxes all your— you work all your life. you pay your taxes all your life. you iner— your taxes all your life. you iwei wani— your taxes all your life. you iwei woni io— your taxes all your life. you just want to save - your taxes all your life. you just want to save up and give a bit just want to save up and give a iii io— just want to save up and give a iii io vow— just want to save up and give a bit to your kids— just want to save up and give a bit to your kids or— just want to save up and give a bit to your kids or to your gronikiie— bit to your kids or to your grandkids-to- bit to your kids or to your. grandkids-to-and grandkids or to whoever, and men— grandkids or to whoever, and inen-wnen— grandkids or to whoever, and then-when you- grandkids or to whoever, and then when you die. then wallop when you die. inere-e— then wallop when you die.- there's—massive there's essentially a massive inv— there's essentially a massive ion—oni- there's essentially a massive ion—one vowl there's essentially a massive. ion—one wow wow tax on your death and you your eniire— tax on your death and you your eniire ioniiv— tax on your death and you your entire family get— tax on your death and you your entire family get penalised. is inni— entire family get penalised. is no rignii— entire family get penalised. is that right? and— entire family get penalised. is that right? and if that tax that right? and what if that tax being— that right? and what if that tax ieing eneni— that right? and what if that tax ieing eneni — that right? and what if that tax being spent on. well, good griei— being spent on. well, good grieiliigni— being spent on. well, good grief,.light of- being spent on. well, good grief, light of our asylum grief, in light of our asylum eeeen— grief, in light of our asylum seeker hotel— grief, in light of our asylum seeker hotel conversation , you seeker hotel conversation, you wowiin-i— seeker hotel conversation, you wowiin-i-eee- seeker hotel conversation, you wouldn't-see it- wouldn't want to see it necessarily— wouldn't want to see it necessarily there, wouldn't want to see it- necessarily-there, would necessarily going there, would you?— necessarily going there, would vow-innin— necessarily going there, would you? patrick christie's on necessarily going there, would you news,)atrick christie's on necessarily going there, would you news, britain'siristie's on necessarily going there, would you news, britain's news�*s on necessarily going there, would you news, britain's news . on

britain's news. channel this is ioeion— britain's news. channel this is ioeion . — britain's news. channel this is ioeion . or— britain's news. channel this is boston . or at— britain's news. channel this is boston . or at least- britain's news. channel this is boston . icii” britain's news. channel this is boston . boston. or at least a part of it. anyway, what we voted for has backfired. you don't see nonv— has backfired. you don't see nonv ioeoie— has backfired. you don't see many locals about- f ”cc you don't see many locals about anymore, do you— many locals about anymore, do vow—vow-ve- many locals about anymore, do vow—vow-ve goi| you feel as though you've got wner— you feel as though you've got win—iore- you feel as though you've got wnoi—iore - you feel as though you've got what-for? no,- you feel as though you've got what-for? no, not you feel as though you've got. what-for? no, not at what you asked for? no, not at nu.— what you asked for? no, not at all. point of view, yes. all. from my point of view, yes. from point view , from a business point of view, inie— from a business point of view, we we— from a business point of view, we o— from a business point of view, this was a campaign to just to get this was a campaign to just to gei o— this was a campaign to just to get a referendum,— this was a campaign to just to get a referendum, just get get a referendum, just to get a reierenirn — get a referendum, just to get a referendum. get a referendum, just to get a- referendum. _people like referendum. we need people like nigel. grab it. come on. lead the country. they tell us- \i 91; grab it. come on. : itizi. they tell us at the country. they tell us at eieeiione— the country. they tell us at elections what— the country. they tell us at elections what they- itizi. they tell us at elections what they want us to new.— elections what they want us to near. ini— elections what they want us to near. noi inev— elections what they want us to hear. but they never actually reoiiv— hear. but they never actually reoiiv neon— hear. but they never actually really mean it.— hear. but they never actually really mean it. we're proud to be really mean it. we're proud to ie on— really mean it. we're proud to ie on wewe— really mean it. we're proud to be gb news brazier itn's news.

cnonnei — be gb news brazier itn's news. channel well,— be gb news brazier itn's news. channel well, that— be gb news brazier itn's news. channel venice be gb news brazier itn's news. channel gizi channel well, that phrase go woke, go broke kind of applies a little bit to the raf , but i'm little bit to the raf, but i'm just going to say as well, it's not long now until i am joined by the ever popular tory mp deputy chair, of course, lee anderson. that's deputy chair, of course, lee anderson . that's going to be box anderson. that's going to be box oiiiee— anderson. that's going to be box oiiiee eiwii— anderson. that's going to be box oiiiee eiwii .— anderson. that's going to be box office stuff . there's— anderson. that's going to be box office stuff . there's a— ' 3" that's going to be box office stuff . there's a lot to office stuff. there's a lot to get— office stuff. there's a lot to gei eiren— office stuff. there's a lot to get stuck-with- office stuff. there's a lot to get stuck with lee anderson get stuck into with lee anderson wniie— get stuck into with lee anderson now. white men— get stuck into with lee anderson now. white men seeking to join the now. white men seeking to join ine-air— now. white men seeking to join ine-air ioree— now. white men seeking to join the-air force were- the royal air force were ieeeriiei — the royal air force were described as— the royal air force were described as us less white male niioie— described as us less white male niioie in— described as us less white male pilots in leaked— described as us less white male pilots in leaked emails that evnoeei— pilots in leaked emails that evnoeei ine— pilots in leaked emails that exposed the pressure placed on reerwiineni— exposed the pressure placed on recruitment officers to improve iivereiiv— recruitment officers to improve iivereiiv .— recruitment officers to improve iivereiiv . so— recruitment officers to improve diversity . so the— recruitment officers to improve diversity . so the raf, some of diversity. so the raf, some of ine— diversity. so the raf, some of ine neonie— diversity. so the raf, some of ine neonie wno— diversity. so the raf, some of the people who are tasked with ieieniing— the people who are tasked with ieieniing ine— the people who are tasked with defending the realm, keeping us eoie— defending the realm, keeping us eoie, ioing— defending the realm, keeping us eoie, doing on— defending the realm, keeping us safe, doing an incredibly iiiiiewii— safe, doing an incredibly difficult job,— safe, doing an incredibly difficult job, you know, niiiiorv— difficult job, you know, military stuff , i thought, well, military stuff, i thought, well, i military stuff, i thought, well, i know— military stuff, i thought, well, i know wini— military stuff, i thought, well, i know what this— military stuff, i thought, well, i know what this needs more of. inie— i know what this needs more of. inie neede— i know what this needs more of. this needs more— i know what this needs more of. this needs more diverse motty. so this needs more diverse motty. so oeeoriing— this needs more diverse motty. so according to— this needs more diverse motty. so according to a— this needs more diverse motty. so according to a defence ine— so according to a defence source, the pressure has been on eeieeiion— source, the pressure has been on selection boards— source, the pressure has been on selection boards to _ source, the pressure has been on selection boards to include more women and more ethnic minorities noriiee— women and more ethnic minorities noriiee. ae— women and more ethnic minorities noriiee. ae o— women and more ethnic minorities parties. as a result— women and more ethnic minorities parties. as a result of this is

31 parties. as a result of this is oi wniie— parties. as a result of this is 31 white men— parties. as a result of this is 31 white men who are said to nove— 31 white men who are said to nove ieen— 31 white men who are said to have been unfairly disadvantaged by ine— have been unfairly disadvantaged by the recruitment— have been unfairly disadvantaged by the recruitment policy. are being— by the recruitment policy. are ieing noii— by the recruitment policy. are being paid £5,000 each in eonneneoie— being paid £5,000 each in compensate asian. what on earth is compensate asian. what on earth ie ine— compensate asian. what on earth ie ine worii— compensate asian. what on earth is the world coming to? there's iivereiiv— is the world coming to? there's diversity quotas— is the world coming to? there's diversity quotas in— is the world coming to? there's diversity quotas in the media as iivereiiv— diversity quotas in the media as diversity quotas— diversity quotas in the media as diversity quotas in— diversity quotas in the media as diversity quotas in the eornoroie— diversity quotas in the corporate world. you don't need to corporate world. you don't need io neee— corporate world. you don't need to mess around— corporate world. you don't need to mess around with our military oni— to mess around with our military and or— to mess around with our military and wir— to mess around with our military and our raf and— to mess around with our military and our raf and anyone else wnoee— and our raf and anyone else whose singular— and our raf and anyone else whose singularjob is to keep us all whose singularjob is to keep us oii oiive— whose singularjob is to keep us oii oiive oni— whose singularjob is to keep us all alive and attack our enemies nereonoiiv— all alive and attack our enemies nereonoiiv ,— all alive and attack our enemies personallyr i— all alive and attack our enemies personally , i couldn't care less personally, i couldn't care less wneiner— personally, i couldn't care less wneiner or— personally, i couldn't care less whether or not— personally, i couldn't care less whether or not every single neeon— whether or not every single neon iiving— whether or not every single person flying the planes that managed— person flying the planes that managed io— person flying the planes that managed to blow up a load of ieweeion— managed to blow up a load of russian tanks— managed to blow up a load of russian tanks or— managed to blow up a load of russian tanks or whatever nonnenei— russian tanks or whatever nonnenei io— russian tanks or whatever happened to all come from eton, or wneiner— happened to all come from eton, or wneiner or— happened to all come from eton, or whether or not— happened to all come from eton, or whether or not they all come iron—reoiivl from somewhere else. i really ion-i— from somewhere else. i really ion-i-wnv— from somewhere else. i really ion-i-wnv io— from somewhere else. i really don't-why do we- from somewhere else. i really don't why do we have to don't care. why do we have to nove— don't care. why do we have to nove gwoioee— don't care. why do we have to have quotas? and— don't care. why do we have to have quotas? and what happened onnoreniiv—neoniel apparently is that these people wno— apparently is that these people who—applyl who just very innocently apply to who just very innocently apply io-ineir— who just very innocently apply io-ineir inw- who just very innocently apply to-their duty and- who just very innocently apply to their duty and put to try to do their duty and put ineir—ior- to try to do their duty and put ineir—ior vowi their lives on the line for you one— their lives on the line for you and i— their lives on the line for you and i were— their lives on the line for you and i were unfairly disadvantaged . and they had disadvantaged. and they had ineir— disadvantaged. and they had their recruitment process held up. their recruitment process held on. i— their recruitment process held on. i neon— their recruitment process held on. i gooe— their recruitment process held up. i mean, good grief. now inev-re— up. i mean, good grief. now inev-re going— up. i mean, good grief. now inev-re going io— up. i mean, good grief. now they're going to be £5,000 they're going to be paid £5,000 enn— they're going to be paid £5,000 eoeileweneei— they're going to be paid £5,000 each. isuspect that— they're going to be paid £5,000 each. suspect that should be each. i suspect that should be noon— each. i suspect that should be noon nigner.— each. i suspect that should be much higher. why would we try to

iiieroiiv— much higher. why would we try to iiieroiiv none— much higher. why would we try to literally make our— much higher. why would we try to literally make our country less eoie— literally make our country less eoie io— literally make our country less eoie io ie— literally make our country less safe to be sacrificed at the own— safe to be sacrificed at the oiior oi— safe to be sacrificed at the altar of wokingham and diversity ? i altar of wokingham and diversity 7 i on— altar of wokingham and diversity 7 i now— altar of wokingham and diversity ? i can now speak— altar of wokingham and diversity ? i can now speak with combat veeirn— ? i can now speak with combat veeirn irevor— ? i can now speak with combat veteran trevor colt. _ ? i can now speak with combat veteran trevor colt. trevor, inonn— veteran trevor colt. trevor, inonn vow— veteran trevor colt. trevor, inonn vow verv— veteran trevor colt. trevor, thank you very much. great to nove— thank you very much. great to nove vow— thank you very much. great to nove won on— thank you very much. great to have you on the— thank you very much. great to have you on the show . this thank you very much. great to have you on the show. this is oieoiwie— have you on the show. this is absolute madness, isn't it? why ioee— absolute madness, isn't it? why ioee iivereiiv— absolute madness, isn't it? why does diversity come into play wnen— does diversity come into play wnen ii— does diversity come into play when it comes— does diversity come into play when it comes to— does diversity come into play when it comes to our armed ioree— when it comes to our armed forces, our military, our raf ? forces, our military, our raf? wen,— forces, our military, our raf? wen, iirei— forces, our military, our raf? well, first of— forces, our military, our raf? well, first of all,— forces, our military, our raf? well, first of all, patrick, inonn— well, first of all, patrick, inonn vow— well, first of all, patrick, thank you for— well, first of all, patrick, thank you for having me on. i:i:::i thank you for having me on. i do onnreeioie— thank you for having me on. i do appreciate it. there's— thank you for having me on. i do appreciate it. there's a- thank you for having me on. i:i:::i f c there's a simple appreciate it. there's a simple reason for this,— appreciate it. there's a simple reason for this, patrick,- f c there's a simple reason for this, patrick, and inie— reason for this, patrick, and we noe— reason for this, patrick, and this has been— reason for this, patrick, and this has been happening over the last this has been happening over the ioei 20,— this has been happening over the ioei 20, 25— this has been happening over the last 20, 25 years. _ this has been happening over the last 20, 25 years. ' i: last 20, 25 years. and this is to do and it all stems back to the united kingdom honours and awards . we have people out awards list. we have people out there, men and women, who don't care who flies or anything . all care who flies or anything. all they care about is sitting there with their their their obe . they with their their their obe. they want honours and awards and the only way to get honours and awards at senior levels in our military motty is to tick all the is to tick all the boxes they called in diversity boxes. now this is what's happening in the raf and i will say this and i this may have backlash, but

the royal air force are the wokeist part of our armed forces in the united kingdom. what we have here is people who have reached senior ranks in the royal air force through box ticking and not through professionalism, not through experience and not through knowledge . they've got there knowledge. they've got there through a series of box ticking and now they're at the top. they're to other they're trying to bring other people through and a series of box so now we have the box ticking. so now we have the top our forces that are top of our armed forces that are all there through ticking equality and diversity and all the other things, rather than experience . we don't have experience. we don't have knowledge experience now at knowledge and experience now at the levels and they all want the top levels and they all want to home with honours and to sit home with honours and awards . that's it's about. awards. that's what it's about. patrick think that there patrick do you think that there are pilots for raf out are better pilots for raf out there than the ones that we are choosing, i.e. we are less safe and less well equipped, as it were , as a result of diversity were, as a result of diversity than we would be if we just employed the best people for the job. patrick of course we've got hundreds of applicants that want

to join the royal air force. they want to be pilots. everyone wants to be a fighter pilot. but unfortunately what's happening is, you know, you may have 13 or 14 people go for that job and six are being turned away because we have too many white people rather than have rather than have 12 or 13. fantastic pilots. now, you have to ask yourself this. why are women not stepping forward? and those from the minority cultures not stepping forward because they don't want those jobs . they don't want those jobs. they don't want those jobs. they don't want those jobs. they don't want those jobs. so you should be happy that we're having people who actually want those roles . now you're having people who actually want those roles. now you're sending them away and now they're getting claims for discrimination and unfortunately, until we get rid of this, the thing which stops everything from happening. patrick is the honours and awards list now. okay, i may have a medal, but i'll tell you what it comes with. hell, it comes with fingers pointing the minute we get rid of the honours and we see and awards system, we will see people work because they want to work rather than line their own

pockets. i just think it's oieoiwieiv— f i just think it's absolutely insulting getting to the absolutely insulting getting to one pebble— absolutely insulting getting to one neonie wno— absolutely insulting getting to the people who, whenever you decide— the people who, whenever you decide io — the people who, whenever you decide io onniv— the people who, whenever you decide to apply for pretty much any decide to apply for pretty much on ironiiine — decide to apply for pretty much any frontline front facing job in ine — any frontline front facing job in the military,— any frontline front facing job in the military, you are signing owov— in the military, you are signing owov o— in the military, you are signing owov o ioi— in the military, you are signing owov o ioi oi— in the military, you are signing away a lot of your— in the military, you are signing away a lot of your rights. you eoving— away a lot of your rights. you sayingv i— away a lot of your rights. you sayingv i on— away a lot of your rights. you are saying, i am willing to die for are saying, i am willing to die ior ii— are saying, i am willing to die ior ii woe— are saying, i am willing to die for it was queen,— are saying, i am willing to die for it was queen, now king and connin— for it was queen, now king and eownirv oni— for it was queen, now king and country and that— for it was queen, now king and country and that deserves the winoei— country and that deserves the utmost respect— country and that deserves the utmost respect because not a lot of utmost respect because not a lot oi pebble— utmost respect because not a lot oi neonie re— utmost respect because not a lot of people are brave— utmost respect because not a lot of people are brave enough to woni— of people are brave enough to woni io— of people are brave enough to woni io io— of people are brave enough to want to do that— of people are brave enough to want to do that and to turn neonie— want to do that and to turn neonie owov— want to do that and to turn neonie owov ,— want to do that and to turn people away , away who are people away, away who are wiiiing— people away, away who are wiiiinglio— people away, away who are willing-do-basic. people away, away who are willing do basic because willing to do that basic because inev-re— willing to do that basic because inev-re wniie. — willing to do that basic because they're white. think is an they're white. i think is an oieoiwie— they're white. i think is an absolute scandal. and this is one area where— absolute scandal. and this is one area where we cannot afford to one area where we cannot afford io niov— one area where we cannot afford io niov gonee— one area where we cannot afford io niov gonee oni— one area where we cannot afford to play games and mess around wnen— to play games and mess around wnen ii— to play games and mess around wnen ii oee— to play games and mess around when it comes to— to play games and mess around when it comes to our national eeewriiv— when it comes to our national eeewriiv oni— when it comes to our national security and you— when it comes to our national security and you think that movie— security and you think that maybe diversity is getting in the maybe diversity is getting in ine wov— maybe diversity is getting in ine wov oi— maybe diversity is getting in the way of our— maybe diversity is getting in the way of our national security wiinowi— the way of our national security wiinowi o— the way of our national security without a shadow— the way of our national security without a shadow of doubt, but wiinowi— without a shadow of doubt, but wiinowi o— without a shadow of doubt, but without a shadow— without a shadow of doubt, but without a shadow of doubt, but without a shadow of a doubt party? _ without a shadow of a doubt nonve ani— without a shadow of a doubt nonve and its— without a shadow of a doubt party? and it's hard- without a shadow of a doubt party? i: “m: party? and it's hard to say this without smiling. but our home secretary our prime minister, those in charge of the cabinet office, those at the top, you know, it seems that the white culture is being pushed the culture is being pushed to the side in order to box tick. and i

i'm not the only one can see it. you can see it. everyone can see it. and it to stop. well it. and it needs to stop. well it's interesting because when it comes to someone like, for example, suella braverman, i mean, she gets a lot mean, obviously she gets a lot of people of pushback from a lot of people who ethnic minority, of pushback from a lot of people wvariety ethnic minority, of pushback from a lot of people wvariety different:minority, of pushback from a lot of people wvariety different ethnicity, a variety of different ethnic minority because a variety of different ethnic mino call because a variety of different ethnic minocall her because a variety of different ethnic minocall her a because a variety of different ethnic minocall her a lot because a variety of different ethnic minocall her a lot of because a variety of different ethnic minocall her a lot of names,e they call her a lot of names, because she doesn't appear to be wanting pander wanting to maybe pander to the diverse so see both diverse thing. so i can see both eiiee— diverse thing. so i can see both eiere-irevor,— diverse thing. so i can see both sides-trevor, i- diverse thing. so i can see both sides-trevor, i think- sides of that. trevor, i think eneeiiieoiiv— sides of that. trevor, i think specifically-it- sides of that. trevor, i think specifically it comes specifically when it comes to ine— specifically when it comes to ine-inowgn— the raf though, that is somewhere _ the raf though, that is somewhere don't somewhere where i really don't win— somewhere where i really don't think—messing. think we should be messing roni— think we should be messing around_trevor,i around at all. look, trevor, inonn— around at all. look, trevor, inonn vow— around at all. look, trevor, inonn vow verv— around at all. look, trevor, thank you very much for your iine. — thank you very much for your iine. ii-e— thank you very much for your time. it's-colt- thank you very much for your time. it's colt combat time. it's trevor colt combat veeirn— time. it's trevor colt combat veteran _course,l time. it's trevor colt combat. veteran _course, just veteran as well. of course, just giving—wornl giving his two pennies worth. wow— giving his two pennies worth. wow-noe— giving his two pennies worth. now has released the now the raf has released the ioiiowing— now the raf has released the following statement. the royal air ioree— following statement. the royal air force will— following statement. the royal air force will-shy- following statement. the royal air force will shy from air force will not shy away from the air force will not shy away from ine—iwiiiing the challenges we face building a the challenges we face building o—oiiroeie- the challenges we face building a_attracts and- a service that attracts and reerwiie— a service that attracts and recruits _from - a service that attracts and recruits from every part recruits talent from every part of recruits talent from every part oi ine — recruits talent from every part oi ine uk— recruits talent from every part of the uk workforce. we will eoniinwe— of the uk workforce. we will continue doing— of the uk workforce. we will continue doing everything we to can _our recruiting - can increase our recruiting inioke— can increase our recruiting inioke iron — can increase our recruiting intake from underrepresented groupe— intake from underrepresented grownewiinin— intake from underrepresented groups within the provisions of the groups within the provisions of ine row.— groups within the provisions of ine iow. ioii— groups within the provisions of the law. all individuals joining the law. all individuals joining ine royal— the law. all individuals joining ine royal air— the law. all individuals joining the royal air force were and are eeieeiei— the royal air force were and are eeieeiei on— the royal air force were and are selected on merit— the royal air force were and are selected on merit ,— the royal air force were and are selected on merit, and any individuals— selected on merit, and any individuals that— selected on merit, and any individuals that were advanced to individuals that were advanced io ineir— individuals that were advanced to their training— individuals that were advanced to their training courses had oireoiv— to their training courses had already passed— to their training courses had already passed the selection-

process.-no compromise process. there was no compromise of process. there was no compromise oi enirv— process. there was no compromise oi enirv eioniorie— process. there was no compromise of entry standards and no impact on-ironi— of entry standards and no impact on-ironi iine— of entry standards and no impact on front line operation . all on the front line operation. all effectiveness. _ on the front line operation. all effectiveness. right. very very quickly — effectiveness. right. very very quickly we-ve— effectiveness. right. very very quickly. we've not got long on inie— quickly. we've not got long on inie-enowii- quickly. we've not got long on this should inherit tax this now, but should inherit tax be this now, but should inherit tax. ie—onnoreniiv be scrapped? because apparently he be scrapped? because apparently ne eoe— be scrapped? because apparently ne iorv— be scrapped? because apparently he some tory mps— be scrapped? because apparently he some tory mps think it should like he some tory mps think it should iine-zonowi. — he some tory mps think it should like-zahawi. iknow. like nadeem's zahawi. i know inie— like nadeem's zahawi. i know inie-eirong— like nadeem's zahawi. i know this-strong views- like nadeem's zahawi. i know this strong views on this has got strong views on eiiner— this has got strong views on eiiner-i-n- this has got strong views on either-i'm goingi this has got strong views oni either-i'm going to this has got strong views on eitinow i'm going to this has got strong views on eitinow quickly i'm going to this has got strong views on eitinow quickly to m going to this has got strong views on eitinow quickly to a going to this has got strong views on eitinow quickly to a digitalto go now quickly to a digital eonnoign— go now quickly to a digital campaign manager at the iovnovere— campaign manager at the taxpayers alliance, joe ventura. joe taxpayers alliance, joe ventura. ioe—snowi- taxpayers alliance, joe ventura. ioe—snowii ii- taxpayers alliance, joe ventura. joe—should it be - joe thank you. should it be eeronnei— joe thank you. should it be scrapped quickly ? f scrapped very quickly? patrick yesr_ scrapped very quickly? patrick vee. in— scrapped very quickly? patrick ion in one— scrapped very quickly? patrick yes, in one word,— scrapped very quickly? patrick yes, in one word, it should be scrapped. absolutely. we're completely consistent on this. it's an unfair tax. it's inefficient. and more importantly, it's a morally wrong to place on people who wrong tax to place on people who are mourning loss of a loved are mourning the loss of a loved one. but why should it be scrapped? are saying, one. but why should it be scrap look are saying, one. but why should it be scrap look , are saying, one. but why should it be scrap look , when are saying, one. but why should it be scrap look , when you're aying, one. but why should it be scrap look , when you're dead, i well, look, when you're dead, i ewnnoee— well, look, when you're dead, i ewnnoee vow— well, look, when you're dead, i suppose you don't— well, look, when you're dead, i suppose you don't really care oiowi— suppose you don't really care oron-vow— suppose you don't really care. about-your-goes, about where your money goes, but you do. i think. yes, absolutely. i think when you talk of people, what talk to a lot of people, what they want to do is they to they want to do is they want to save their hard money save up their hard earned money and pass that to on and they want to pass that to on the generations. the future generations. and i think that natural human think that is a natural human instinct. it's a very real feeling for people. and feeling for a lot of people. and i think the government should feeling for a lot of people. and i think move )vernment should feeling for a lot of people. and i think move aside, ent should feeling for a lot of people. and i think move aside, let should feeling for a lot of people. and i think move aside, let families simply move aside, let families pass that money on to their

loved ones, and the benefits from that will will pass on to us all. yeah, let it circulate roni— us all. yeah, let it circulate roni ine— c»; yeah, let it circulate around the economy. it c3 yeah, let it circulate around the economy. it just seems completely morally unfair inoi— seems completely morally unfair inoi neonie— seems completely morally unfair inoi neonie on— seems completely morally unfair that people can work their whole iivee — that people can work their whole iivee _ine — that people can work their whole lives,-the system,- that people can work their whole lives,whole the system, that people can work their whole lives,whole lives,3 system, that people can work their whole lives,whole lives,3 syste amount their whole lives, pay x amouth of their whole lives, pay x amount of nurses salaries,— their whole lives, pay x amount of nurses salaries, their whole iivee. — of nurses salaries, their whole lives. .education - of nurses salaries, their whole lives. education system . lives. the education system. sove— lives. the education system. eove-io— lives. the education system. save do responsible save up, do the responsible ining— save up, do the responsible ining oni— save up, do the responsible thing and wants— save up, do the responsible thing and wants to pass that on to thing and wants to pass that on io o— thing and wants to pass that on io o reioiive— thing and wants to pass that on to a relative. and— thing and wants to pass that on to a relative. and then when inev— to a relative. and then when new eie— to a relative. and then when new iie ,— to a relative. and then when new iie , ine— to a relative. and then when they die , the government goes, they die, the government goes, i'm they die, the government goes, in noving— they die, the government goes, in noving iono— they die, the government goes, i'm having 40% that . i'm having 40% of that. aieoiwieiv. — i'm having 40% of that. absolutely. it's- i'm having 40% of that. absolutely. it's completely unfair. and what we're seeing now is that more and more people are being brought into this tax . almost 40% of homes sold in england and wales last year hit that sort of basic threshold , that sort of basic threshold, meaning that more and more people tax, people are paying this tax, which reserved for which is supposedly reserved for the very well off. and that just simply isn't the anymore. simply isn't the case anymore. and we'll is that when and what we'll see is that when someone loses a beloved one, when lose a father or when they lose a father or a mother, that home, then that they probably grew up in will have to be sold off to pay off that bill. it's completely unfair. and more and more people are face that burden, are going to face that burden, unfortunately. joe, you unfortunately. joe, thank you very ever.

very much. great stuff as ever. snori—goi- very much. great stuff as ever. snori—goi iol very much. great stuff as ever.| short—got to the short and sweet, but got to the ioni— short and sweet, but got to the noini. ioe— short and sweet, but got to the point. joe venture— short and sweet, but got to the point. joe venture there, who is a point. joe venture there, who is o eonnoign— point. joe venture there, who is. a campaign—taxpayers a campaign manager at taxpayers aiiionee. — alliance. it's a vote winner, ien-i— alliance. it's a vote winner, ien-i-noiiing- alliance. it's a vote winner,| isn't-polling-who isn't it, on polling day. who revoe—i- isn't it, on polling day. who are _vote for?l isn't it, on polling day. who. are _vote for? the are you going to vote for? the party—to- are you going to vote for? thej pony—io-inoi party that is going to say that vow— party that is going to say that your iovei— party that is going to say that your loved-keep- party that is going to say that your loved keep all of your loved ones can keep all of wow— your loved ones can keep all of your—party- your money or the party that eove— your money or the party that ewe-ion- your money or the party that says-40%.that?j says they want 40% of that? i inink— says they want 40% of that? i wink-ou— says they want 40% of that? i ininhoii-i- says they want 40% of that? i think-all-i have- says they want 40% of that? i think all i have got a think we all know i have got a inge— think we all know i have got a huge interview— think we all know i have got a huge interview coming up, inowgn— huge interview coming up, inowgn oe— huge interview coming up, though, as tory— huge interview coming up, though, as tory deputy chair lee aniereon— though, as tory deputy chair lee anderson tells— though, as tory deputy chair lee anderson tells me— though, as tory deputy chair lee anderson tells me what he thinks oiowi— anderson tells me what he thinks oiowi or— anderson tells me what he thinks about our enormous migration iii— about our enormous migration iiii re— about our enormous migration bill are enormous— about our enormous migration bill are enormous asylum seeker bill are enormous asylum seeker iiii oni— bill are enormous asylum seeker bill and those— bill are enormous asylum seeker bill and those eco— bill are enormous asylum seeker bill and those eco activists who are bill and those eco activists who owing— bill and those eco activists who owing io— bill and those eco activists who are trying to ruin— bill and those eco activists who are trying to ruin all of our iivee. — are trying to ruin all of our iivee. vow— are trying to ruin all of our lives. you won't— are trying to ruin all of our lives. you won't want to miss are trying to ruin all of our livipatrick won't want to miss are trying to ruin all of our livipatrick christysint to miss are trying to ruin all of our livipatrick christys on to miss are trying to ruin all of our livipatrick christys on gb niss it. patrick christys on gb news iriioin-e— it. patrick christys on gb news britain's news— it. patrick christys on gb news britain's news .—

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nrenorei— covid so that we can be better nrenorei in— covid so that we can be better nrenorei in ine— covid so that we can be better prepared in the future. and going— prepared in the future. and we're doing that in a spirit of rigour— we're doing that in a spirit of rigour ,— we're doing that in a spirit of rigour, ini— we're doing that in a spirit of rigour , but also— we're doing that in a spirit of rigour , but also transparency rigour, but also transparency oni— rigour, but also transparency oni eonowi— rigour, but also transparency and candour .— rigour, but also transparency and candour . and we've and candour. and we've eooneroiei.— and candour. and we've cooperated. the government has eooneroiei— cooperated. the government has cooperated thoroughly with the inguin— cooperated thoroughly with the ingwin ioiow— cooperated thoroughly with the inquiry today, handing over tens of inquiry today, handing over tens oi inoweonie— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of— inquiry today, handing over tens of thousands of documents. and we wiri— of thousands of documents. and we will continue— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to— of thousands of documents. and we will continue to comply, of wiin— we will continue to comply, of course, with the— we will continue to comply, of course, with the law and eooneroie— course, with the law and cooperate with - course, with the law and cooperate with the inquiry . cooperate with the inquiry. vie-re — cooperate with the inquiry. we're confident in our position , ini— we're confident in our position , in re— we're confident in our position , but are carefully— we're confident in our position , but are carefully considering nevi— , but are carefully considering nevi eiere— , but are carefully considering nevi eiene .— , but are carefully considering next steps . well,— , but are carefully considering next steps . well, the other next steps. well, the other ireoving— next steps. well, the other breaking news— next steps. well, the other breaking news that came through to breaking news that came through io we— breaking news that came through io we inie— breaking news that came through to us this afternoon, the itv ioee— to us this afternoon, the itv ioee done— to us this afternoon, the itv boss, dame carolyn mccall , has boss, dame carolyn mccall, has ieen— boss, dame carolyn mccall, has been eoiiei— boss, dame carolyn mccall, has been called to— boss, dame carolyn mccall, has been called to face— boss, dame carolyn mccall, has been called to face questions iron— been called to face questions iron nie— been called to face questions from mps about— been called to face questions from mps about the broadcaster's onnrooen— from mps about the broadcaster's onnrooen io— from mps about the broadcaster's approach to safeguarding and noniiing— approach to safeguarding and handling complaints following tv nreeenier— handling complaints following tv presenter phillip— handling complaints following tv presenter phillip schofield's ienoriwre— presenter phillip schofield's departure from _ presenter phillip schofield's departure from their daytime tv nrogronne— departure from their daytime tv nrogronne . — departure from their daytime tv programme . dame— departure from their daytime tv programme . i iiizcieicc programme. dame mccall has been asked by the culture, media and sport committee to answer questions on june the 14th. in a letter , she says, philip made letter, she says, philip made assurances which he now acknowledges were untrue and we feel badly let down when it follows the fallout surrounding the tv presenter phillip schofield's admission of a relationship with a younger male colleague at the daytime tv show

this morning. colleague at the daytime tv show this morning . now dorset police this morning. now dorset police has launched an investigation into the deaths of two young swimmers at bournemouth beach yesterday. a 12 year old girl from buckinghamshire and a 17 year old boy from southampton died after being pulled from the sea yesterday afternoon. our south—east of england. reporter ray addison sent this report . ray addison sent this report. dorset police confirming that nenerei— dorset police confirming that nenerei oi— dorset police confirming that members of the— dorset police confirming that members of the public played a key roie— members of the public played a key roie in— members of the public played a key role in helping to rescue ien— key role in helping to rescue ien neopre— key role in helping to rescue ten people who— key role in helping to rescue ten people who were in trouble in ine— ten people who were in trouble in ine iee— ten people who were in trouble in the waters here— ten people who were in trouble in the waters here at bournemouth beach. eight of in the waters here at— bournemouth beach. eight of them ireoiei— bournemouth beach. eight of them ireoiei by— bournemouth beach. eight of them were treated by ambulance crews on ine— were treated by ambulance crews on ine ieoen— were treated by ambulance crews on the beach side.— were treated by ambulance crews on the beach side. two were ioven— on the beach side. two were ioven io— on the beach side. two were taken to hospital— on the beach side. two were taken to hospital in a critical eoniiiion— taken to hospital in a critical condition where— taken to hospital in a critical condition where they sadly later died. — condition where they sadly later died. wow— condition where they sadly later died. now on— condition where they sadly later died. \ii:::iii 3" 93 iii" condition where they sadly later died. \ii:::iiii g died. now an investigation has been launched. operation marble , a man in his 40s, is in custody on suspicion of manslaughter. and dorset police are urging the public, if you've got any video footage of this incident to get in touch and share it with them. so it will help this investigation- ”i333; c so it will help this investigation . 33”i:3; c so it will help this investigation . 33 help this investigation. ray addison— help this investigation. ray addison there— help this investigation. ray addison there now- help this investigation. ray addison there now the labour mp

gareth davies has been suspended from the labour party following allegations of inappropriate behaviour. labour is calling the allegations completely unacceptable and incredibly serious and has encouraged anybody with a complaint or information to come forward. the swansea west mp has had the whip removed whilst a review was carried out earlier. he refuted the allegations and apologised if he had inadvertently offended anyone to. teenage boys have been arrested after a man was found dead in manchester. the 21 year old was found with serious injuries in old trafford yesterday. he was pronounced dead at the scene. a 15 year old boy has arrested on boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder and a 16 year old has arrested on year old has been arrested on suspicion possessing an suspicion of possessing an offensive weapon . now police offensive weapon. now police investigate the disappearance of madeleine mccann, say they recovered several items during last week's searches of a portuguese reservoir and dam. german officials say the items can't yet be linked to her disappearance and will be evaluated further over the coming weeks and days.

evaluated further over the coming weeks and days . a large coming weeks and days. a large section of the reservoir was cordoned off during the search. it's around 30 miles from where the three year old madeleine went missing in two thousand and seven. police say their investigation the main investigation into the main suspect , christian brueckner, suspect, christian brueckner, will . and the prince will continue. and the prince and princess of wales have made and princess of wales have made a surprise visit to jordan to attend the wedding of the country's crown prince william and kate are among a host of foreign royalty attending the nuptials of prince hussein and saudi arabian bride as well. the celebrations are being held at the saffron palace . that's the the saffron palace. that's the same venue chosen by the crown prince's father, king abdullah us gb news. more news as it happens. back now to . happens. back now to. patrick okay, busy final hour, happens. back now to. patrick- . okay, busy final hour, people. happens. back now to. patrick- . okay, busy fintalking people. happens. back now to. patrick- . okay, busy fintalking to eople.

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but i just— it, aren't we, really? but i just-ee— it, aren't we, really? but i reee-to have- it, aren't we, really? but ii just-to havelchat just wanted to have a chat with you— just wanted to have a chat with you-eewer— just wanted to have a chat with you-another-that. just wanted to have a chat with you-another-that ii you about another issue that i knew— you about another issue that i knew eee— you about another issue that i knew gets you— you about another issue that i know gets you all— you about another issue that i know gets you all very hot under the know gets you all very hot under eee-ene— know gets you all very hot under eee-anemone— the collar and get your emails coming— the collar and get your emails coming-ee- the collar and get your emails coming-gb views. coming in on this gb views vaiews@gbnews.uk . com. but we vaiews@gbnews.uk. com. but we are vaiews@gbnews.uk. com. but we spending— vaiews@gbnews.uk. com. but we spending eee— vaiews@gbnews.uk. com. but we are spending too much on our asylum— are spending too much on our asylum eeeele— are spending too much on our asylum seekers and not enough on our asylum seekers and not enough on people.— asylum seekers and not enough on our own people. that figure is eel— our own people. that figure is now £2.1 billion— our own people. that figure is now £2.1 billion and is set to hit now £2.1 billion and is set to en ze— now £2.1 billion and is set to hit 2.4 billion. _ now £2.1 billion and is set to hit 2.4 billion. this year. how many— hit 2.4 billion. this year. how many ne— hit 2.4 billion. this year. how many new hospitals and schools is new— many new hospitals and schools is new new— many new hospitals and schools is that? how many— many new hospitals and schools is that? how many new homes eewe— is that? how many new homes eewll wel— is that? how many new homes could that be?— is that? how many new homes could that be? well, actually well— could that be? well, actually well were— could that be? well, actually well, we're on— could that be? well, actually well, we're on the subject of nennee. — well, we're on the subject of nennee. n— well, we're on the subject of homes. it turns— well, we're on the subject of homes. it turns out that we can null— homes. it turns out that we can build ne— homes. it turns out that we can build new ones,— homes. it turns out that we can build new ones, but for asylum eeeenel eewn— build new ones, but for asylum seekers, again, like in london,

neelllen— seekers, again, like in london, basildon, somerset, birmingham , basildon, somerset, birmingham, celeneelen— basildon, somerset, birmingham, celeneelen l— basildon, somerset, birmingham, colchester, i could— basildon, somerset, birmingham, colchester, i could go on, but weee— colchester, i could go on, but these eye—watering figures are a bit these eye—watering figures are a en en— these eye—watering figures are a en on e— these eye—watering figures are a en on a nudge— these eye—watering figures are a bit of a fudge, actually , bit of a fudge, actually, neeewee— bit of a fudge, actually, because we're - bit of a fudge, actually, because we're spending hundreds of because we're spending hundreds on millions— because we're spending hundreds of millions from _ because we're spending hundreds of millions from our foreign aid lwleel— of millions from our foreign aid lwleel le— of millions from our foreign aid budget to accommodate these people— budget to accommodate these people-l— budget to accommodate these people-l le- budget to accommodate these people i do wonder if people as well. i do wonder if poor— people as well. i do wonder if poor people— people as well. i do wonder if poor people in— people as well. i do wonder if poor people in this country or neneleee— poor people in this country or homeless military veterans would get homeless military veterans would eel newer— homeless military veterans would get better treatment if they levelled— get better treatment if they travelled to _ get better treatment if they travelled to calais, got in a llngnw— travelled to calais, got in a llngnw-nlelell travelled to calais, got in a dinghy picked up in travelled to calais, got in a- dinghy-picked up in the dinghy and were picked up in the cnennel— dinghy and were picked up in the cnennel nw— dinghy and were picked up in the cnennel by we— dinghy and were picked up in the channel by the rnli . but it just channel by the rnli. but it just feele— channel by the rnli. but it just feels like— channel by the rnli. but it just feels like we're— channel by the rnli. but it just feels like we're a— channel by the rnli. but it just feels like we're a bit helpless neeewee— feels like we're a bit helpless because labour— feels like we're a bit helpless because labour are basically weeeeel— because labour are basically useless on this,— because labour are basically useless on this, aren't they? thev're — useless on this, aren't they? they're highlighting the costs of they're highlighting the costs on all— they're highlighting the costs on all en— they're highlighting the costs on all on ll— they're highlighting the costs of all of it, but— they're highlighting the costs of all of it, but they haven't got— of all of it, but they haven't eel e— of all of it, but they haven't gel a plan— of all of it, but they haven't got a plan other— of all of it, but they haven't got a plan other than to bring the got a plan other than to bring lne-lewn— got a plan other than to bring the down presumably just the cost down by presumably just letting— the cost down by presumably just letting-in— the cost down by presumably just lenlne-ln en— the cost down by presumably just letting in or something letting everyone in or something weene— letting everyone in or something weene anew— letting everyone in or something vague about smugglers . vague about people smugglers. thev're— vague about people smugglers. they're newne— vague about people smugglers. they're against the rwanda plan .wnlen— they're against the rwanda plan .wnlen le— they're against the rwanda plan , which is basically our only lelenenee— , which is basically our only deterrence at— , which is basically our only deterrence at this point. people wne— deterrence at this point. people wne-ewenee— deterrence at this point. people who-rwanda plan- deterrence at this point. people who rwanda plan is too who say the rwanda plan is too epenewe— who say the rwanda plan is too expensive should— who say the rwanda plan is too expensive should consider the eeen— expensive should consider the eeen-leng— expensive should consider the costs-doing it,- expensive should consider the costs doing it, just costs of not doing it, just unrelenting,— costs of not doing it, just unrelenting, massive amounts of illegal— unrelenting, massive amounts of illegal migration— unrelenting, massive amounts of illegal migration that the iexpewen— illegal migration that the iexpewen nee— illegal migration that the taxpayer has to clean up the civil— taxpayer has to clean up the civil service— taxpayer has to clean up the civil service are— taxpayer has to clean up the civil service are useless when wew-ne— civil service are useless when inew-ne nei— civil service are useless when they're not leaking misinformation or trying to inne— misinformation or trying to wing eewn— misinformation or trying to bring down the— misinformation or trying to

bring down the government or inle— bring down the government or lake ine— bring down the government or take the government to court to week— take the government to court to block-rwanda— take the government to court to block rwanda scheme. they're block the rwanda scheme. they're dragging— block the rwanda scheme. they're weeping-neee.— block the rwanda scheme. they're dragging heels. home dragging their heels. home office— dragging their heels. home office caseworkers are sorting inel— office caseworkers are sorting peel-eewlwn — office caseworkers are sorting just asylum cases a month just five asylum cases a month iive— just five asylum cases a month now, five asylum _ just five asylum cases a month now, five asylum cases a month. i now, five asylum cases a month. i mean— now, five asylum cases a month. i i— now, five asylum cases a month. inneen i mean— now, five asylum cases a month. i mean. i mean, come on. five. wnei— i mean. i mean, come on. five. wnei e— i mean. i mean, come on. five. wnei a lean— i mean. i mean, come on. five. wnei a lead ei— i mean. i mean, come on. five. what a load of rubbish that is. ine— what a load of rubbish that is. the government— what a load of rubbish that is. the government is too busy needing— the government is too busy flooding this— the government is too busy flooding this country with legal nipniien— flooding this country with legal nipniien ee— flooding this country with legal migration as part— flooding this country with legal migration as part of a huge innipniien— migration as part of a huge immigration ponzi scheme that we ie— immigration ponzi scheme that we ie ie— immigration ponzi scheme that we seem to be locked— immigration ponzi scheme that we seem to be locked into. and wnei-e— seem to be locked into. and wnei-e peinp— seem to be locked into. and what's going to— seem to be locked into. and what's going to happen to the ewenee— what's going to happen to the ewenee-eni— what's going to happen to the average-and-taxl what's going to happen to the. average-and-tax will average man and woman tax will go up,— average man and woman tax will go up. wen-i— average man and woman tax will go up. went in— average man and woman tax will go up, won't it? tax— average man and woman tax will go up, won't it? tax will go up to go up, won't it? tax will go up ie leni— go up, won't it? tax will go up ie ieel win— go up, won't it? tax will go up to deal with excessive use of pwilie— to deal with excessive use of our public services. massive eee— our public services. massive eeei ei— our public services. massive cost of migrant— our public services. massive cost of migrant hotels. can you imagine— cost of migrant hotels. can you imagine in— cost of migrant hotels. can you imagine if we— cost of migrant hotels. can you imagine if we devoted as much energy— imagine if we devoted as much energy ie— imagine if we devoted as much energy to housing— imagine if we devoted as much energy to housing homeless veterans as we _ energy to housing homeless veterans as we do towards neweinp— veterans as we do towards housing, illegal migrants? in ieen— housing, illegal migrants? in feel i— housing, illegal migrants? in fact, i honestly— housing, illegal migrants? in fact, i honestly think taxpayers enewli— fact, i honestly think taxpayers enewli ie— fact, i honestly think taxpayers should be given— fact, i honestly think taxpayers should be given a— fact, i honestly think taxpayers should be given a choice. do you wani— should be given a choice. do you weni e— should be given a choice. do you want a percentage— should be given a choice. do you want a percentage of your tax to go ie— want a percentage of your tax to go ie neneleee— want a percentage of your tax to go to homeless veterans or iewenie— go to homeless veterans or towards asylum _ go to homeless veterans or towards asylum seeker hotels ? towards asylum seeker hotels? ani— towards asylum seeker hotels? and i— towards asylum seeker hotels? and i ininl— towards asylum seeker hotels? and i think we— towards asylum seeker hotels? and i think we all know what the welli— and i think we all know what the answer would .—

and i think we all know what the answer would . be— and i think we all know what the answer would . be gb views the gb answer would. be gb views the gb wewe— answer would. be gb views the gb news .com. those— answer would. be gb views the gb news .com. those are my views. eei— news .com. those are my views. eei wewe— news .com. those are my views. eei wewe eeninp— news .com. those are my views. get yours coming in. but now lei-e— get yours coming in. but now lei-e wil— get yours coming in. but now let's talk about— get yours coming in. but now let's talk about this and other _w- let's talk about this and other eeweee—i eewl issues. i'm delighted to say i an— issues. i'm delighted to say i an ieinei— issues. i'm delighted to say i an ieinei nw— issues. i'm delighted to say i am joined by the— issues. i'm delighted to say i am joined by the conservative nanny-e— am joined by the conservative innw-e iepww— am joined by the conservative party's deputy chairman and friend—ee- party's deputy chairman and friend—as well. friend of this parish as well. we— friend of this parish as well. we lee— friend of this parish as well. it's lee anderson. lee, thank you— it's lee anderson. lee, thank you-much— it's lee anderson. lee, thank wew-nwen ini- it's lee anderson. lee, thank you much. £2.1 billion a you very much. £2.1 billion a wear— you very much. £2.1 billion a ween eni— you very much. £2.1 billion a wenn and ne— you very much. £2.1 billion a year and the rest— you very much. £2.1 billion a year and the rest by the way, on newlin— year and the rest by the way, on asylum seekers— year and the rest by the way, on asylum seekers .— year and the rest by the way, on asylum seekers . what about the asylum seekers. what about the people— asylum seekers. what about the people w-wee— asylum seekers. what about the people we've already got here? well— people we've already got here? well patrick.— people we've already got here? well, patrick, let— people we've already got here? well, patrick, let me— people we've already got here? well, patrick, let me correct you once again , my friend. you once again, my friend. they're not asylum seekers . they're not asylum seekers. these are economic, illegal migrants crossing the channel in their thousands every single month. you will know that i went to calais a few months back and visited one of these camps where the migrants were quite open. they were not asylum seekers. they were not asylum seekers. they were not asylum seekers. they were abusing the asylum laws in our country to get here and make a better life for themselves. they were all young men. we saw no women or children or families . it was just young or families. it was just young men from either sudan or eritrea. and the two words they kept saying over and over again

were el dorado. they're coming here because they think they're going to a better life. going to get a better life. i can't fault them for that, but let's just put this to let's just put this nonsense to one they are genuine one side that they are genuine asylum the vast asylum seekers because the vast majority them illegal majority of them are illegal migrants our asylum migrants abusing our asylum system. you're quite right, system. and you're quite right, what you said just before i came on there, this money could be better spent. i actually did test my tax and i pay a lot of tax. you probably pay a lot more than me. patrick did test my than me. patrick i did test my tax the house tax being paid the house economic illegal migrants. it should go. this money should be spentin should go. this money should be spent in our country, on our own people . i couldn't agree with people. i couldn't agree with you— people. i couldn't agree with wew-inni— people. i couldn't agree with wew-inn .— people. i couldn't agree with wew-inn . i-we- people. i couldn't agree with you-that . i've got. people. i couldn't agree withj you-that . i've got to you more on that. i've got to ask:— you more on that. i've got to eel-neen ene- you more on that. i've got to ask,-mean, are we| ask, though. i mean, are we actually— ask, though. i mean, are wei actually—abetting actually aiding and abetting nwnen— actually aiding and abetting human traffickers because we're giving—,- human traffickers because we're giving—. eren-i- giving them this life, aren't wee— giving them this life, aren't wee-pip— giving them this life, aren't wee-pip repen- giving them this life, aren't we? big report yesterday we? i did a big report yesterday in—inew- we? i did a big report yesterday in—inew peii in greece. sometimes they get put— in greece. sometimes they get pwi in— in greece. sometimes they get pwi in equalin— in greece. sometimes they get put in squalid camps on islands eni— put in squalid camps on islands and men— put in squalid camps on islands and then they're— put in squalid camps on islands and then they're not really given— and then they're not really given-access- and then they're not really given - access to - and then they're not really given access to public given any access to public eewnee.— given any access to public. eewieee—inew services. shock, horror. they ien-i—inenel services. shock, horror. they don't—there ini don't fancy staying there in nine— don't fancy staying there in france. they're— don't fancy staying there in france. they're in tents around the france. they're in tents around ine-enee.— france. they're in tents around the-area. well,- france. they're in tents around the area. well, they the calais area. well, they ien-i— the calais area. well, they ien-i really— the calais area. well, they don't really fancy staying there --vou_ don't really fancy staying there .-wew gei— don't really fancy staying there .-wew eei e- don't really fancy staying there .-wew eei a new- don't really fancy staying there . you get a four star . over here you get a four star neiel—nene- . over here you get a four star hotel—home at- . over here you get a four stari hotel—home at some hotel and a new home at some peini— hotel and a new home at some peini eni— hotel and a new home at some peini and null— hotel and a new home at some point and full access to our public— point and full access to our- public—actually public services. are we actually

piling— public services. are we actually aiding-abetting— public services. are we actually aiding abetting these human aiding and abetting these human iniiielene— aiding and abetting these human traffickers? we're— aiding and abetting these human traffickers? we're the final end of traffickers? we're the final end ei-iweineee— traffickers? we're the final end of-business, aren't- of their business, aren't we? well— of their business, aren't we? well-pen— of their business, aren't we? well-pen ei- of their business, aren't we? well,-part of the- of their business, aren't we? well, part of the poor, well, we're part of the poor, eewen— well, we're part of the poor, eenen—ven i well, we're part of the poor,- patrick,_you know, we patrick, aren't we? you know, we weal— patrick, aren't we? you know, we treat treat people treat try and treat people humanely and do the decent thing because we're british. what humanely and do the decent thing because isl're british. what humanely and do the decent thing because is aa british. what humanely and do the decent thing because is a consequence what humanely and do the decent thing because is a consequence ofiat humanely and do the decent thing because is a consequence of that happens is a consequence of that is that we're abused by the by the traffickers and the whole industry. now, i've said from day one, this is not something i've this week i've started saying this week for the last two and a half years since this has been happening should be happening is they should be detained they detained immediately. they should be into, know, should be put into, you know, secure should be secure camps and they should be checked out they are, why checked out who they are, why they're here, they come they're here, where they come from, they done in from, and what have they done in the past. hopefully, the past. now, hopefully, i think know, he sort think rishi, you know, he sort of inherited here. of inherited a bad deal here. we've changed the law that's that's going through through parliament at the moment. and it's given us, you know, what we want is certainly what i wanted in that if you here in that if you arrive here legally, i.e. on the boats, as you see on your screen, you will be detained from day one until we you to a third we can send you to a third country to country of country or to your country of origin. you it's origin. it's, you know, it's taken it frustrates the taken a while. it frustrates the hell me . but, you know,

hell out of me. but, you know, i think rishi is on the right course here. but but the british pubuc course here. but but the british public looking in won't want this to be much, much quicker. couldn't you end it all with a referendum by just saying? right. okay. do people back the ewenee— right. okay. do people back the rwanda scheme _ right. okay. do people back the rwanda scheme or— right. okay. do people back the rwanda scheme or not? wallop eeen— rwanda scheme or not? wallop eeen lone.— rwanda scheme or not? wallop bosh done. and— rwanda scheme or not? wallop bosh done. and when people do inel— bosh done. and when people do peel ii— bosh done. and when people do peel ii .— bosh done. and when people do back it , that's— bosh done. and when people do back it , that's it— bosh done. and when people do back it , that's it and everyone back it, that's it and everyone eiee— back it, that's it and everyone else een— back it, that's it and everyone else gei— back it, that's it and everyone else can get back— back it, that's it and everyone else can get back in their box. one— else can get back in their box. one a— else can get back in their box. one a fantastic— else can get back in their box. one a fantastic idea.- else can get back in their box. one a fantastic idea. patrick. you should be a politician. ian i think you know , when i knock i think you know, when i knock on doors in ashfield and i'm out aboutin on doors in ashfield and i'm out about in ashfield like i have been today talking to people in the , in the shopping the street, in the shopping centres wherever they , you centres or wherever they, you know, 90% of the people i speak to in the real world, remember ashfield is in the real world. they back the rwanda plan . they back the rwanda plan. they're fed they're fed up they're fed up, they're fed up of roads of of saying our roads full of potholes. they're fed up of, you know, of the cost of know, sped up of the cost of living problems they're having at you say 6 to £7 at the moment. you say 6 to £7 million a day being spent on, again. patrick migrants again. patrick illegal migrants , not genuine asylum seekers. the genuine asylum seekers. we do see a thousands of miles away stuck in camps looking for a

better life. there the people we should be helping, not these economic that economic migrants that are freeloading the channel. freeloading over the channel. yeah, no indeed . and as well, yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lot yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lei ei— yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lei ei ine— yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lot of the-who- yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lot of the-who are- yeah, no indeed. and as well, a lot of the who are coming lot of the people who are coming ine— lot of the people who are coming over the channel— lot of the people who are coming over the channel not over the channel now are not iren—inene-ei over the channel now are not. from _there's any from countries where there's any line—wew-wei from countries where there's any kind alluding you've from countries where there's any kind alluding to. you've from countries where there's any kind alluding to. and you've from countries where there's any kind alluding to. and given 've from countries where there's any kind alluding to. and given the been alluding to. and given the fact that we've had net nipneiien— fact that we've had net. migration—are migration figures that are eieelwielw— migration figures that are absolutely levels migration figures that are- absolutely-levels as absolutely at record levels as well— absolutely at record levels as welllneiwee— absolutely at record levels as well, refuse believe well, i refuse to believe that iee— well, i refuse to believe that we inni— well, i refuse to believe that it's that difficult— well, i refuse to believe that it's that difficult to get here legally.— it's that difficult to get here lepellw—lel it's that difficult to get here. legally,_to coin legally, which implies to coin a pnneee— legally, which implies to coin a pnneee ei— legally, which implies to coin a phrase of donald— legally, which implies to coin a phrase of donald trump's head , phrase of donald trump's head, inel— phrase of donald trump's head, lnel ine— phrase of donald trump's head, inei lne peeple— phrase of donald trump's head, that the people coming over the cnennel—nel- channel well, they're not sending— channel well, they're not - sending—wewe sending their best, are they? neeewee— sending their best, are they? becauselthey_ sending their best, are they? because they were going to because if they were going to eeiiwelw— because if they were going to actively contribute to our economy, apply economy, they'd be able to apply for economy, they'd be able to apply ien—.— economy, they'd be able to apply ien—. ane- economy, they'd be able to apply ien—. ane well for migration legally. and yet nere— for migration legally. and yet neee-sewing.- for migration legally. and yet neee-sewing. wew- for migration legally. and yet here saying, you know , here we are saying, you know, saving— here we are saying, you know, sewing-wew— here we are saying, you know, saying-they can- here we are saying, you know, saying they can come saying that they can come and we're-accepting- saying that they can come and. we're-accepting-who we're just accepting people who een-l— aren't going to actually help our economy at— aren't going to actually help our economy at all. and we're expected—eyel our economy at all. and we'rei expeeiee—ewe ie expected to turn a blind eye to we— expected to turn a blind eye to we . — expected to turn a blind eye to we . well— expected to turn a blind eye to that . well, you— expected to turn a blind eye to that. venice : expected to turn a blind eye to that. : that. well, you would think with how came the how many thousands came over the channel how many thousands came over the channel, and channel, how many dentists and doctors, it wouldn't be too difficult dental difficult to get a dental appointment doctor's appointment or a doctor's appointment or a doctor's appointment weeks. appointment in the coming weeks. but the but it is. and that's the reality of it all. patrick that's what my constituents tell me. say that they me. you know, they say that they can't dentist appointment. can't get a dentist appointment. they're a gp. they're struggling to get a gp. meanwhile we're seeing thousands of healthy men crossing of young, healthy men crossing the channel. they're not fleeing

any persecution. and if any sort of persecution. and if they were, ask yourself they were, just ask yourself this, patrick, what sort of young leaves his family, young man leaves his family, women and children behind in the country there's a war and country where there's a war and if they doing that, i don't if they are doing that, i don't want in this want them sort of men in this country. should back country. they should be back home looking after their families. i raise families. i mean, you raise a peei— families. i mean, you raise a peel peinn— families. i mean, you raise a peel peini. ane— families. i mean, you raise a good point. and i— l i mean, you raise a good point. and i think maybe peeple— good point. and i think maybe peeple neee— good point. and i think maybe peeple neee le— good point. and i think maybe people need to that point people need to raise that point a-more . you also,- a little bit more. you also, of course, went calais . i a little bit more. you also, of course, went calais. i spoke course, went to calais. i spoke to course, went to calais. i spoke le-e— course, went to calais. i spoke le-e pil— course, went to calais. i spoke le-e en el— course, went to calais. i spoke to-a bit at the— course, went to calais. i spoke to a bit at the time. there to you a bit at the time. there ane— to you a bit at the time. there and—vou- to you a bit at the time. there and—you le- and i'd just like you to describe— and i'd just like you to describe again what you saw, ieeewee— describe again what you saw, ieeeweeene-— describe again what you saw, because are some of these because there are some of these preppe— because there are some of these weeps—calen- because there are some of these groups—calais, whoi groups like care for calais, who i groups like care for calais, who i-eene— groups like care for calais, who i-carelcomment- groups like care for calais, who i-carelcomment on- groups like care for calais, who i care comment on stuff i don't care to comment on stuff like— i don't care to comment on stuff like-wew— i don't care to comment on stuff linemen-inl- i don't care to comment on stuff like .very-but they- like this very often, but they appear— like this very often, but they appear le— like this very often, but they appear le ie— like this very often, but they appear to be caring rather too nwen— appear to be caring rather too nwen ien— appear to be caring rather too much for some— appear to be caring rather too much for some asylum seekers, een-l— much for some asylum seekers, een-l wew— much for some asylum seekers, een-l lnew e — much for some asylum seekers, don't they ? well,— much for some asylum seekers, don't they ? willi“ "it; much for some asylum seekers, don't they ? willi“ ”it; don't they? well, they're not caring britain. caring for great britain. patrick that is that is that is a yes. was calais and a fact. yes. i was in calais and i did speak to you when i was there. these so—called there. and these these so—called charities , the do gooders, are charities, the do gooders, are part of the problem. they are just as bad, in my honest opinion , as the actual people opinion, as the actual people smugglers, because they're they're, you know, sort of encouraging young men to come. they're feeding them, clothing

them equipping them with the them and equipping them with the life skills they need come to life skills they need to come to the they're teaching them life skills they need to come to the to they're teaching them life skills they need to come to the to speakre teaching them life skills they need to come to the to speak englishing them life skills they need to come to the to speak english and hem life skills they need to come to the to speak english and the how to speak english and the care charity and this is care for charity and this is a this is a charity, the way, this is a charity, by the way, that's fighting rwanda that's fighting the rwanda flights. then waiting that's fighting the rwanda fligthese then waiting that's fighting the rwanda fligthese men n waiting that's fighting the rwanda fligthese men inivaiting that's fighting the rwanda fligthese men in the ng for these young men in the hotels to walk them through the asylum process, which is, as we know , which broken. so they know, which is broken. so they are of the solution. are not part of the solution. they're part of the problem. but fighting a losing but you're fighting a losing ieenle. — battle. my good man, because wew-we— battle. my good man, because. wew-we—oniee you've even got the home office welling—wewe- you've even got the home office working—you've goti working against you. you've got civil— working against you. you've got civil-welling- working against you. you've got civil working against civil servants working against wew.— civil servants working against wen-wewe- civil servants working against wen-wewe pen- you. i mean, they're part of a legal— you. i mean, they're part of a legal-nw— you. i mean, they're part of a legal-try ie- you. i mean, they're part of a legal-try to stop- you. i mean, they're part of a legal try to stop the legal fight to try to stop the ewenee— legal fight to try to stop the rwanda scheme— legal fight to try to stop the rwanda scheme actually rwanda scheme from actually tiling— rwanda scheme from actually taking-absolute- taking off. it is absolute madness,-it- taking off. it is absolute madness,-it is. madness, isn't it? it is madness. i- madness, isn't it? it is madness. " madness, isn't it? it is- madness. i mean, you know, madness, isn't it? it is— madness. i mean, you know, the home office, i mean, not all home office, i mean, not all home staff are bad. we home office staff are bad. we know people are know that some people are working hard there working incredibly hard in there and frustrated and they're just as frustrated covid would say. i covid as what i would say. i actually some of the actually spoke to some of the staff, element staff, but there is an element i would patrick, that that would imagine patrick, that that don't like people like me very much, don't like the rwanda scheme very much. we've heard about strikes this week, but, you they should crack on you know, they should crack on with job they're employed with the job they're employed to do. carry out do. theirjob is to carry out the will of the government of the will of the government of

the who it is the day, regardless of who it is leading the country. yeah, leading the country. so, yeah, you're right. is slow. you're quite right. it is slow. we've the home we've had them in the home affairs committee before. affairs select committee before. they to speed it up. but they need to speed it up. but you know, as soon as the rwanda flights, people bang about flights, people bang on about this being this rwanda flight not being a deterrent, spoke some of deterrent, we spoke to some of the residents in the camp the kelly residents in the camp and they told us quite clearly if was going if they thought they was going to plane to africa as to get on a plane to africa as soon as they got to the uk, they would crossing would not bother crossing the channel. would asylum channel. they would claim asylum in absolutely. channel. they would claim asylum in the absolutely. channel. they would claim asylum in the evidencelbsolutely. channel. they would claim asylum in the evidencelbsliterally well, the evidence is literally noni— well, the evidence is literally nipni ieiene— well, the evidence is literally right before our— well, the evidence is literally right before our eyes. now, why on right before our eyes. now, why en eewn— right before our eyes. now, why en eenn-lnew— right before our eyes. now, why on earth-they all- right before our eyes. now, why on earth they all trying to on earth are they all trying to- eene—lninl come here? is because they think this come here? is because they think win-peel— come here? is because they think lnie-ieel-le- come here? is because they think this-best-to comei this is the best country to come to. this is the best country to come ie-inew-ne— this is the best country to come le-lnew-ne iele— this is the best country to come to. they're told that to. so if they're told that wew-ne— to. so if they're told that lnew-ne—ie | to. so if they're told that they're _ be to they're not going to be able to come here, a sudden come here, all of a sudden innee— come here, all of a sudden. france—appealing, come here, all of a sudden france looks appealing, come here, all of a sudden france looks moreipealing, come here, all of a sudden france looks more appealing. germany looks more appealing. ane— germany looks more appealing. wne—newe- and all that human rights nipple— and all that human rights. brigade _their brigade can shove it in their pipe— brigade can shove it in their pipe ene— brigade can shove it in their pipe and smoke— brigade can shove it in their pipe and smoke it. because if new— pipe and smoke it. because if wew-wnern- pipe and smoke it. because if they what's going on they think that what's going on in-ie— they think that what's going on in _is pro—human - in germany is pro—human rights, eewnenw— in germany is pro—human rights,i germany—tale germany has got a scheme to take a germany has got a scheme to take e—nenin- a thousand afghans a month. how menw— a thousand afghans a month. how many newe— a thousand afghans a month. how many newe inep— a thousand afghans a month. how many have they none. many have they taken? none. new— italy is taking half of the refugees.— italy is taking half of the refugees. promised italy is taking half of the- refugees.-promised to. refugees. they've promised to. greece— refugees. they've promised to. greece basically— refugees. they've promised to. greece basically goes we've greece basically goes once we've pneeeeeee— processed your application, wew-we— processed your application,- wew-we—ew ei you've got 30 days to get out of lnie— you've got 30 days to get out of lnie-pewe— you've got 30 days to get out of lnie-pewe wew-en- this hut. we gave you on an island— this hut. we gave you on an island-wew— this hut. we gave you on an island-you will- this hut. we gave you on an island you will be island where you will be neneleee— island where you will be homeless and- island where you will be homeless and jobless. so good inel— homeless and jobless. so good incl—wew- homeless and jobless. so goodj luck _your family. luck with that and your family. ine— luck with that and your family. ine-lnel— luck with that and your family. the .thatisending-

the idea that us sending people for-opportunity— the idea that us sending people for-opportunity of- the idea that us sending people for opportunity of a new for the opportunity of a new life— for the opportunity of a new life le— for the opportunity of a new life ie e— for the opportunity of a new life to a safe— for the opportunity of a new life to a safe country africa life to a safe country in africa is against— life to a safe country in africa is against their— life to a safe country in africa is against their human rights ene— is against their human rights ene-weree— is against their human rights and-worse than— is against their human rights and worse than the and is worse than what the innepeen— and is worse than what the innepeen-ie- and is worse than what the european is doing is european union is doing is eieelwlelw— european union is doing is absolutely bonkers. but can i inel— absolutely bonkers. but can i iwei piwei— absolutely bonkers. but can i iwei piwei e— absolutely bonkers. but can i just pivot a bit— absolutely bonkers. but can i just pivot a bit here with you? because— just pivot a bit here with you? because i— just pivot a bit here with you? because i know— just pivot a bit here with you? because i know that you get wew.— because i know that you get very, wew— because i know that you get very, very angry,— because i know that you get very, very angry, right? as do i. very, very angry, right? as do l ane— very, very angry, right? as do i. and although— very, very angry, right? as do i. and although i've come lessee.— i. and although i've come dressed,.least- i. and although i've come dressed, least in terms of my dressed, at least in terms of my wee— dressed, at least in terms of my tires ene— dressed, at least in terms of my tires ene-slep— dressed, at least in terms of my tires and-stop oil- tires and just stop oil character— tires and just stop oil character today, but just stop oil-ene— character today, but just stop oil-ene ee— character today, but just stop oil-are are are— character today, but just stop oil are are are almost oil are are are are almost definitely— oil are are are are almost definitely almost inevitable going— definitely almost inevitable peinp le— definitely almost inevitable peinp le largel— definitely almost inevitable going to target the fa cup final . inep— going to target the fa cup final . they elep— going to target the fa cup final . they eiep wipel— going to target the fa cup final . they stop nigel farage getting to . they stop nigel farage getting ie ine— . they stop nigel farage getting to the cricket— . they stop nigel farage getting to the cricket today for a brief penee— to the cricket today for a brief penee ei— to the cricket today for a brief period of time.— to the cricket today for a brief period of time. so— to the cricket today for a brief period of time. so he's very new— period of time. so he's very angry epew— period of time. so he's very angry about that. but what do you— angry about that. but what do wew-enemi— angry about that. but what do you should happen with you think should happen with win— you think should happen with win inel— you think should happen with wnn ipei slep— you think should happen with with just stop oil to frankly inel— with just stop oil to frankly iwei elep— with just stop oil to frankly just stop them— with just stop oil to frankly just stop them ? willi“ just stop them? well, i think, you know, my views on this, patrick. i mean , look at these patrick. i mean, look at these people on the screen now. they're absolutely warming up . they're absolutely warming up. you know, these, again, do gooders , virtue signallers, gooders, virtue signallers, absolute hypocrites. i tell you what should happen them every what should happen to them every time public time there's a public disturbance , you see you've got disturbance, you see you've got 4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a there. they should 4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a charged there. they should 4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a charged forhere. they should 4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a charged for their they should

4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a charged for their wageshould 4 or 5 bobbies there. maybe half a charged for their wages forld be charged for their wages for the should pay costs the day. they should pay costs to there be to this. there should be an immediate fine. mean, immediate fine. i mean, i've suggested before . you know, suggested this before. you know, when property when they're disrupting property or sporting events. i mean, look at here. mean, at these idiots on here. i mean, i wish one of these rugby i just wish one of these rugby players, do a full players, you know, do a full tackle one of these and that tackle on one of these and that that would be entertaining. but they've nothing do. they've got nothing else to do. and the cops on the and don't blame the cops on the floor for this. patrick. i blame some chiefs some of the police chiefs because there's too inconsistent with how to deal with these idiots. you know, we've seen them during during the them during the during the coronation and they were moved on quickly indeed. on very, very quickly indeed. and was dragged kicking and there was dragged kicking and screaming and lobbed into a pavement somewhere . that's how pavement somewhere. that's how we dealing these we should be dealing with these idiots you know, idiots not being, you know, acting pamby, putting acting like namby pamby, putting acting like namby pamby, putting a blanket over them and offering them cups of tea. that's nonsense. deal with no, nonsense. deal with them. no, indeed. again, it just seems indeed. but again, it just seems like the working like an attack on the working class. and i know that pride class. and i know that you pride weweeli— yourself on being know in enenpel— yourself on being know in amongst working yourself on being know in amongst-working there amongst the working class. there aeniiele— amongst the working class. there ashfield fantastic— amongst the working class. there ashfield fantastic constituency .-eennwniw- ashfield fantastic constituency ,-community and- ashfield fantastic constituency , community and when , fantastic community and when we leew— , fantastic community and when we leel el— , fantastic community and when we look at both— , fantastic community and when we look at both of— , fantastic community and when we look at both of those topics we— we look at both of those topics we w-wee— we look at both of those topics that we've spoken _ we look at both of those topics that we've spoken about here, you— that we've spoken about here, wew knew— that we've spoken about here, you knew we— that we've spoken about here, you know the amount taxpayers

you know the amount of taxpayers nenew— you know the amount of taxpayers nenew wel— you know the amount of taxpayers nenew lnel ie— you know the amount of taxpayers money that is being— you know the amount of taxpayers money that is being spent leelinp— money that is being spent looking after— money that is being spent looking after people who are not iren— looking after people who are not iren-ene— looking after people who are not iren-ene epile— looking after people who are not from and quite possibly from here and quite possibly enewlen-l— from here and quite possibly shouldn't be— from here and quite possibly shouldn't be here because wew-we— shouldn't be here because they've arrived— shouldn't be here because they've arrived here illegally. ane— they've arrived here illegally. and-vou— they've arrived here illegally. and-you leew— they've arrived here illegally. and-you look at- they've arrived here illegally. and you look at stop and then you look at just stop oil—le— and then you look at just stop eil—le inel— and then you look at just stop oil-to just stop- oil who seem to just stop eniinew— oil who seem to just stop ordinary working class people iren— ordinary working class people nen geiiing— ordinary working class people from getting to— ordinary working class people from getting to work in their weneleniewinp— from getting to work in their weneleniewinp e- from getting to work in their vans enjoying a sporting vans or enjoying a sporting newn— vans or enjoying a sporting nelen en— vans or enjoying a sporting match or something like that. inene— match or something like that. inene-eppeen— match or something like that. there-appear to- there does appear to be a nieiewlewe— there does appear to be a ridiculous-on- there does appear to be a- ridiculous-on-working ridiculous attack on the working eeeel — ridiculous attack on the working eeeel weene— ridiculous attack on the working class. you're in— ridiculous attack on the working class. you're inlred_ ridiculous attack on the working class. you're in red wall area class. you're in a red wall area . wew— class. you're in a red wall area . wew knew.— class. you're in a red wall area . you know, what— class. you're in a red wall area . you know, what are the conservatives— . you know, what are the conservatives going to do try conservatives going to do to try to conservatives going to do to try ie weep— conservatives going to do to try ie leep nele— conservatives going to do to try to keep hold-seats- conservatives going to do to try to keep hold seats yours to keep hold of seats like yours ? to keep hold of seats like yours e _ienwnelelw— to keep hold of seats like yours ? _fortunately for- to keep hold of seats like yours ? _fortunately for me,- ? well, fortunately for me, patrick, i mean, these idiots , patrick, i mean, these idiots, as you're seeing on your screen, these stop just stop these just stop oil. just stop oil lunatics . they don't appear oil lunatics. they don't appear in places like ashton. because i'll tell you if did i'll tell you what, if they did , you know, i think the residents ashton out residents of ashton would be out very, sorting them very, very quickly sorting them out, getting them off the road because about because they want to go about their are their business. they are hardworking, abiding hardworking, law abiding citizens they don't want citizens and they don't want these mean, look citizens and they don't want thlthis mean, look citizens and they don't want thlthis free mean, look citizens and they don't want thlthis free theian, look citizens and they don't want thlthis free the snooker at this free care on the snooker table . what are we playing at, table. what are we playing at, patrick country the patrick in this country at the moment? should moment? these people should be dragged by police dragged off by the police and put cell and left to put in a cell and left to reflect on their actions. you

know, good. six months might do them. the world of good. okay look, lee, thank you very, very much. always a pleasure. great to much. always a pleasure. great ie newe— much. always a pleasure. great ie newe wew— much. always a pleasure. great le newe wew en— much. always a pleasure. great to have you on the— “lit.“ always a pleasure. great to have you on the show. lee andersen— to have you on the show. lee anderson there,— to have you on the show. lee anderson there, of course , anderson there, of course, ceneeweliwe— anderson there, of course, conservative mp. not conservative mp. he's not pulling— conservative mp. he's not pulling any— conservative mp. he's not pulling any punches. you'd love to pulling any punches. you'd love ie—eneile- pulling any punches. you'd love to_emails come. pulling any punches. you'd love to_emails come ini to see loads of emails come in ene— to see loads of emails come in ene-wewlen-l— to see loads of emails come in and .wouldn'tlbe- to see loads of emails come ml and .wouldn'tlbe _to and say, wouldn't it be great to newe— and say, wouldn't it be great to leave lee— and say, wouldn't it be great to have lee anderson— and say, wouldn't it be great to have lee anderson running the eewniwe— have lee anderson running the eewnwwe eni— have lee anderson running the eewniwe in i— have lee anderson running the country? but i have some big iweeling— country? but i have some big breaking news.— country? but i have some big breaking news. cabinet breaking news. the cabinet office— breaking news. the cabinet office-seeking- breaking news. the cabinet office seeking a judicial office is seeking a judicial ei— office is seeking a judicial review of baroness hallett order to review of baroness hallett order ie eleee— review of baroness hallett order to release boris— review of baroness hallett order to release boris johnson's wneleiipp— to release boris johnson's whatsapp messages , diaries and whatsapp messages, diaries and neieieele— whatsapp messages, diaries and notebooks one— whatsapp messages, diaries and notebooks one more time. this is big notebooks one more time. this is pig peeling— notebooks one more time. this is big breaking news— notebooks one more time. this is big breaking news the cabinet office— big breaking news the cabinet office ie— big breaking news the cabinet office is seeking— big breaking news the cabinet office is seeking a judicial ei— office is seeking a judicial review of baroness hallett order to review of baroness hallett order ie eleee— review of baroness hallett order to release boris— review of baroness hallett order to release boris johnson's wneleiipp— to release boris johnson's whatsapp messages diaries and neleieele. — whatsapp messages diaries and notebooks. okay— whatsapp messages diaries and notebooks. okay that's fascinating. _ notebooks. okay that's fascinating. bear in mind, that newline— fascinating. bear in mind, that deadline was— fascinating. bear in mind, that deadline was 4— fascinating. bear in mind, that deadline was 4 pm. right here on deadline was 4 pm. right here en lnie— deadline was 4 pm. right here en lnie enew. — deadline was 4 pm. right here on this show. for— deadline was 4 pm. right here on this show. for them to hand all ei— on this show. for them to hand all ei p— on this show. for them to hand all ei p — on this show. for them to hand all of it over. boris— on this show. for them to hand all of it over. boris johnson, he all of it over. boris johnson, ne epil— all of it over. boris johnson, ne eeie nee— all of it over. boris johnson, he said he'd given the cabinet office— he said he'd given the cabinet office everything— he said he'd given the cabinet office everything had office everything that he had ene— office everything that he had ene-wee— office everything that he had and-was urging- office everything that he had and was urging them to hand and he was urging them to hand all ei— and he was urging them to hand all ei wel— and he was urging them to hand all of that over— and he was urging them to hand all of that over rapidly . and all of that over rapidly. and inew-we — all of that over rapidly. and lnew-we epil— all of that over rapidly. and they've said no— all of that over rapidly. and they've said no .— all of that over rapidly. and they've said no . essentially, they've said no. essentially, wew-we— they've said no. essentially, they've basically just said no. so they've basically just said no. se me— they've basically just said no. so the consequences for this

celle— so the consequences for this eewle ie— so the consequences for this could be pretty— so the consequences for this could be pretty far reaching peeewee— could be pretty far reaching because could— could be pretty far reaching because could there be a court case around the— because could there be a court case around the corner? could lnene— case around the corner? could lnene een— case around the corner? could lnene ie— case around the corner? could there even be prison around the corner for people?— there even be prison around the corner for people? again what on eewn— corner for people? again what on eenn ie— corner for people? again what on eenn is being— corner for people? again what on earth is being hinted? because it earth is being hinted? because il—nenel it doesn't appear that boris ienneen— it doesn't appear that borisl ienneen—le johnson has got anything to nine.— johnson has got anything to nine. se— johnson has got anything to hide. so there— johnson has got anything to hide. so there is— johnson has got anything to hide. so there is something is were— hide. so there is something is there_notebooks| hide. so there is something is. there—notebooks or there not, in these notebooks or in-wnelewpp— there not, in these notebooks or in whatsapp messages that in these whatsapp messages that new— in these whatsapp messages that ieen-peeple— in these whatsapp messages that rishi people currently rishi sunak or people currently in gewennneni— rishi sunak or people currently in government are desperate not to in government are desperate not ie newe— in government are desperate not ie newe enl— in government are desperate not to have out there— in government are desperate not to have out there ?_ in government are desperate not to have out there ? i do not to have out there? i do not believe— to have out there? i do not believe that— to have out there? i do not believe that this is just simply a straightforward— believe that this is just simply a straightforward matter of principle— a straightforward matter of principle .— a straightforward matter of principle . ii— a straightforward matter of principle . if there was nothing principle. if there was nothing controversial— principle. if there was nothing controversial in— principle. if there was nothing controversial in these notebooks orlthese— controversial in these notebooks or these whatsapp messages or in these whatsapp messages inel— or in these whatsapp messages inn—e.— or in these whatsapp messages wet—e. eiieei- or in these whatsapp messages that—a, effect on. or in these whatsapp messages that a, effect on the that would have a, effect on the careers of the— that would have a, effect on the careers of the people who are currently— careers of the people who are ewnenllw in— careers of the people who are currently in government at the nine— currently in government at the ninwie en— currently in government at the minute or around— currently in government at the minute or around government at the minute or around government at we minute.— minute or around government at the minute. these— minute or around government at the minute. these would all be out the minute. these would all be ell—ie— the minute. these would all be ell—is cleanly- out there. there is clearly eenelning— out there. there is clearly something going on here and they newe— something going on here and they nwe-up— something going on here and they nwe-up .— something going on here and they nwe-up . n— something going on here and they nwe-up . n ie— something going on here and they have up . it is better have weighed up. it is better for have weighed up. it is better ien lnen— have weighed up. it is better ien lnen le— have weighed up. it is better for them to have— have weighed up. it is better for them to have all of the eenwewenew— for them to have all of the controversy and _ for them to have all of the controversy and all of the talk of controversy and all of the talk eileewen— controversy and all of the talk eileewen up— controversy and all of the talk oflcover up and— controversy and all of the talk of cover up and potential of a cover up and a potential eewn— of a cover up and a potential court case-is- of a cover up and a potential court case-is for- of a cover up and a potential court case is for the court case than it is for the reality— court case than it is for the reality ei— court case than it is for the reality of whatever it is wew-ne— reality of whatever it is they're - hide l reality of whatever it isi they're - hide to reality of whatever it is- they're - hide to get they're trying to hide to get enl— they're trying to hide to get ell ei— they're trying to hide to get ell ei inen — they're trying to hide to get out of that. i— they're trying to hide to get out of that. i will have more on lnie— out of that. i will have more on win-wew— out of that. i will have more on this-very shortly- out of that. i will have more on this very shortly gb views this very, very shortly gb views at this very, very shortly gb views einewe— this very, very shortly gb views atinews — this very, very shortly gb views at. news .com. .not- this very, very shortly gb views at news .com. not take at gb news .com. do not take wew— at gb news .com. do not take weween- en- at gb news .com. do not take your-ears off it.- at gb news .com. do not take your ears off it. we'll your eyes and ears off it. we'll elee— your eyes and ears off it. we'll elee newe— your eyes and ears off it. we'll also have some— your eyes and ears off it. we'll also have some bad for you. also have some bad for news you.

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will speak to a— in just a few moments time, i will speak to a just stop oil eeliwiele— will speak to a just stop oil activists and— will speak to a just stop oil activists and ask— will speak to a just stop oil activists and ask directly if wew-ne— activists and ask directly if inew-ne geing— activists and ask directly if they're going to ruin saturday's fa they're going to ruin saturday's iii cup— they're going to ruin saturday's iii cwp finel— they're going to ruin saturday's iii cup final a— they're going to ruin saturday's fa cup final. a reminder of that big fa cup final. a reminder of that pig peeling— fa cup final. a reminder of that big breaking news— fa cup final. a reminder of that big breaking news for you, lnewgn.— big breaking news for you, inewgn. ine— big breaking news for you, though. the cabinet office is seeking— though. the cabinet office is seeking e— though. the cabinet office is seeking a judicial review of baroness hallett order to eleee— baroness hallett order to release boris— baroness hallett order to release boris johnson's whatsapp messages diaries— release boris johnson's whatsapp messages diaries and notebooks. it messages diaries and notebooks. n nee— messages diaries and notebooks. n nee epil— messages diaries and notebooks. n nee sail in— messages diaries and notebooks. it has said in a— messages diaries and notebooks. it has said in a letter to the lovin— it has said in a letter to the cevip inquiry— it has said in a letter to the covid inquiry tree they have gene— covid inquiry tree they have quite literally— covid inquiry tree they have quite literally decided that new— quite literally decided that new ene— quite literally decided that they are willing to run the gewnilel— they are willing to run the gewnilel ei— they are willing to run the gauntlet of public scrutiny speculation— gauntlet of public scrutiny speculation on _ gauntlet of public scrutiny speculation on massive labour eppeeilien— speculation on massive labour eppeeilien in— speculation on massive labour opposition in order to not evenl— opposition in order to not reveal whatever it is they are living— reveal whatever it is they are living le— reveal whatever it is they are living le nine.— reveal whatever it is they are trying to hide. bear in mind as well— trying to hide. bear in mind as well inni— trying to hide. bear in mind as well that boris— trying to hide. bear in mind as well that boris johnson has said we— well that boris johnson has said we lnev— well that boris johnson has said that they should— well that boris johnson has said that they should reveal it all as an— that they should reveal it all an en wnien— that they should reveal it all as ap, which implies that the peeple— as ap, which implies that the peeple wip— as ap, which implies that the people with something to hide are-ones who— people with something to hide are-ones who are- people with something to hide are ones who are currently people with something to hide are in nes who are currently people with something to hide are in downingare currently people with something to hide are in downing street,antly sitting in downing street, not the sitting in downing street, not ine—eeewpiee- sitting in downing street, not the—occupied it- sitting in downing street, not the—occupied ital the bloke who occupied it a inle— the bloke who occupied it a little while _ the bloke who occupied it a little while ago— the bloke who occupied it a little while ago . gb views a gb little while ago. gb views a gb wewe— little while ago. gb views a gb wewe i— little while ago. gb views a gb news .com. i will— little while ago. gb views a gb news .com. i will have more on we— news .com. i will have more on we ee— news .com. i will have more on we as ene— news .com. i will have more on that as and when— news .com. i will have more on that as and when we get it. also wenn— that as and when we get it. also wenn-wel— that as and when we get it. also worth that christopher worth noting that christopher nepe—eel worth noting that christopher. nepe—ee leng hope, who was on not so long ago,— hope, who was on not so long age-inel— hope, who was on not so long ago,-just tweeted- hope, who was on not so long ago, just tweeted to say ago, has just tweeted to say inni— ago, has just tweeted to say we wnei— ago, has just tweeted to say that what labour ago, has just tweeted to say- that what-labour-could ago, has just tweeted to say- theisivhat-labour-could ago, has just tweeted to say- theisivhatifllabour-could ago, has just tweeted to say this ivhatif we .abour could ago, has just tweeted to say theisivhatif we winur could ago, has just tweeted to say theisivhatif we win the could ago, has just tweeted to say theisivhatif we win the next:ould do is say if we win the next general— do is say if we win the next general election,- do is say if we win the next general election, we will eleee— general election, we will release everything, which would

be fascinating,— release everything, which would be fascinating, wouldn't it? elivie — be fascinating, wouldn't it? olivia ruttley_ be fascinating, wouldn't it? olivia ruttley joins me on this wne— olivia ruttley joins me on this wne ie— olivia ruttley joins me on this now. who is our— olivia ruttley joins me on this now. who is our political nepenen— now. who is our political reporter. she's- now. who is our political reporter. she's over here, lnewgn.— reporter. she's over here, inewgn. vep. — reporter. she's over here, though. yep. there we go. and olivie— though. yep. there we go. and opgg, wnel— though. yep. there we go. and olivia, what is— though. yep. there we go. and olivia, what is the latest, please— olivia, what is the latest, pleeee e — olivia, what is the latest, please ? yes.- olivia, what is the latest, please ? yes. so- olivia, what is the latest, please ? “4115 olivia, what is the latest,- please ? yes. so the government please? yes. so the government has decided to seek a judicial review to try and avoid handing over these documents in their unredacted form to the covid inquiry . now, unredacted form to the covid inquiry. now, it seems unredacted form to the covid inquiry . now, it seems quite inquiry. now, it seems quite possible that the government will lose multiple . all eminent will lose multiple. all eminent lawyers have said that the government has a pretty weak case given the wide remit that lady hallett has been given in the covid inquiry so well. what would happen then? i mean , would happen then? i mean, according to the way the law works is that if the covid inquiry wants to summon a witness and the witness refuses to come and they have to come and they don't have a legal case, judicial view legal case, the judicial view falls through, then the covid inquiry could potentially arrest the witness in this case, the cabinet office, not sure if that would be oliver dowden. the cabinet secretary or a senior civil servant. there is any newli— civil servant. there is any eewin leew— civil servant. there is any doubt look, oliver,- it. , l there is any doubt look, oliver, mate, come

ven— doubt look, oliver, mate, come ven neve— doubt look, oliver, mate, come on. you have all— doubt look, oliver, mate, come on. you have all got to do it. inel— on. you have all got to do it. ipei gei— on. you have all got to do it. ipei gel in— on. you have all got to do it. ipei gel in we— on. you have all got to do it. just get in the back of this ven-ll— just get in the back of this van. you'll be— just get in the back of this van. you'll be fine. i'll do it ien— van. you'll be fine. i'll do it ien-ollie.— van. you'll be fine. i'll do it for-ollie. yeah - van. you'll be fine. i'll do it for ollie. yeah it; for you. ollie. yeah so either olivei— for you. ollie. yeah so either oliver dowden or i'm not sure who it would be. a senior civil servant in the cabinet office could potentially be hauled up under arrest and forced to give their evidence to the covid inquiry. presumably it won't come to that. it is all getting a come to that. it is all getting e-eeepenele.- come to that. it is all getting a-desperate. africani a little bit desperate. african dictatorship,— a little bit desperate. african dictatorship, is— a little bit desperate. african dictatorship, is it not? well, you— dictatorship, is it not? well, ven-eee— dictatorship, is it not? well, ven-eee lnen- dictatorship, is it not? well, you see them with guns held you can see them with guns held to you can see them with guns held ie inel— you can see them with guns held ie lnein neee.— you can see them with guns held to their head-and- you can see them with guns held to their head. and talk to their head. i'll go and talk to their head. i'll go and talk ie—iell- to their head. i'll go and talk le—iell le- to their head. i'll go and talk to_talk to the. to the inquiry. talk to the inquiry-— to the inquiry. talk to the inquiry. nul— to the inquiry. talk to the inquiry. but this is fascinating ieeewee— inquiry. but this is fascinating because what— inquiry. but this is fascinating because what labour party because what the labour party eewe— because what the labour party eewlelie— because what the labour party eewlelie eew— because what the labour party could-is say, well,- because what the labour party could is say, well, we could do is say, well, when we get— could do is say, well, when we gel-inel— could do is say, well, when we get-just release- get in, we'll just release all of get in, we'll just release all ei—ene- get in, we'll just release all ei—ene p- get in, we'll just release all of_and it does. of this anyway and it does eieelwlelv— of this anyway and it does absolutely smack of the fact we— absolutely smack of the fact we lnene — absolutely smack of the fact that there is— absolutely smack of the fact that there is a— absolutely smack of the fact that there is a rather large up— that there is a rather large wp geing— that there is a rather large cover up going on and they deem this cover up going on and they deem lnie ie— cover up going on and they deem this is otherwise— cover up going on and they deem this is otherwise why do it elnenwiee— this is otherwise why do it otherwise why— this is otherwise why do it otherwise why do it? they deem wel— otherwise why do it? they deem that whatever— otherwise why do it? they deem that whatever it— otherwise why do it? they deem that whatever it is,— otherwise why do it? they deem that whatever it is, they're engin— that whatever it is, they're eneie ei— that whatever it is, they're afraid of getting out is that business— afraid of getting out is that business links— afraid of getting out is that business links is that to do wip— business links is that to do with vaccines— business links is that to do with vaccines ?_ business links is that to do with vaccines ? is it to do with with vaccines? is it to do with we— with vaccines? is it to do with we eiiieeev— with vaccines? is it to do with the efficacy of— with vaccines? is it to do with the efficacy of lockdown? is it to the efficacy of lockdown? is it ie ee— the efficacy of lockdown? is it ie we wip— the efficacy of lockdown? is it to do with an— the efficacy of lockdown? is it to do with an actual concerted enenpl— to do with an actual concerted enenpl ie— to do with an actual concerted attempt to stab— to do with an actual concerted attempt to stab boris johnson in the attempt to stab boris johnson in we peel— attempt to stab boris johnson in we peel ene— attempt to stab boris johnson in the back and get— attempt to stab boris johnson in the back and get him out? is it to the back and get him out? is it ie ee— the back and get him out? is it ie ele-ei— the back and get him out? is it to do _of those- the back and get him out? is it to do of those things to do with any of those things

lnev— to do with any of those things inev eleenlv— to do with any of those things they clearly feel— to do with any of those things they clearly feel as though it welli— they clearly feel as though it wewle ie— they clearly feel as though it would be worse— they clearly feel as though it would be worse for that to get eni— would be worse for that to get eei-wen— would be worse for that to get eei-wen ien— would be worse for that to get out-than for them- would be worse for that to get out than for them to go to out there than for them to go to eewn— out there than for them to go to eeen ene— out there than for them to go to eeen ene ien— out there than for them to go to court and for someone to do hard linee — court and for someone to do hard linee _peseinlv— court and for someone to do hard time? _possibly the- court and for someone to do hard time? well, possibly the whole thing seem little bit thing does seem a little bit strange expecting strange because we are expecting the covid inquiry drawn the covid inquiry to be drawn out over a number of years. so the prospect of any damaging incriminating whatsapps getting into the public domain in any time soon before the next election seems very slim indeed. so it does seem quite strange that the cabinet office are going to such lengths not to hand over this evidence. and as i say, given the very wide remit that lady hallett has been given, she has basically been told she can see anything told that she can see anything that to see to that she wants to see to complete her inquiry in the most efficient way possible . it does efficient way possible. it does sound as though the government's judicial review case very, judicial review case is very, very . okay. right. olivia, very weak. okay. right. olivia, neig— very weak. okay. right. olivia, nele wel— very weak. okay. right. olivia, hold that thought— very weak. okay. right. olivia, hold that thought ,— will okay. right. olivia, hold that thought , because i hold that thought, because i believe— hold that thought, because i believe i— hold that thought, because i believe i have— hold that thought, because i believe i have a— hold that thought, because i believe i have a letter from the cabinet— believe i have a letter from the cabinet office _ believe i have a letter from the cabinet office yes,— believe i have a letter from the cabinet office yes, i do. okay. we— cabinet office yes, i do. okay. we eeneieen— cabinet office yes, i do. okay. we consider that— cabinet office yes, i do. okay. we consider that to be important ei— we consider that to be important issues of principle— we consider that to be important issues of principle at stake

neve— issues of principle at stake here affecting— issues of principle at stake here affecting both the rights of individuals— here affecting both the rights of individuals and the proper eenewel— of individuals and the proper eenewel ei— of individuals and the proper conduct of governments . the conduct of governments. the request— conduct of governments. the request ien— conduct of governments. the request for unambiguously inelevenl— request for unambiguously irrelevant material goes beyond the irrelevant material goes beyond ine peeve— irrelevant material goes beyond lne peeve ei— irrelevant material goes beyond the powers of the— irrelevant material goes beyond the powers of the inquiry . the powers of the inquiry. individuals,— the powers of the inquiry. individuals, junior officials , individuals, junior officials, ewvvenv— individuals, junior officials, current and— individuals, junior officials, current and former ministers and lepennenve— current and former ministers and departments should not be vegwivee— departments should not be vegwivee ve— departments should not be required to provide material vnev— required to provide material we ie— required to provide material that is irrelevant to the ingwivv-e— that is irrelevant to the inquiry's work. it represents an wnwenenvee— inquiry's work. it represents an unwarranted intrusion into other eepeeve— unwarranted intrusion into other eepeeve ei— unwarranted intrusion into other eepeeve ei vne — unwarranted intrusion into other aspects of the work of governments. it also represents an invvweien— governments. it also represents an intrusion into— governments. it also represents an intrusion into their legitimate— an intrusion into their legitimate expectations of pviveev— legitimate expectations of pviveev ene— legitimate expectations of privacy and protection of their peveenel— privacy and protection of their personal information. olivia it ewepeevee— personal information. olivia it was suspected that it would go even— was suspected that it would go even ine— was suspected that it would go after the privacy— was suspected that it would go after the privacy angle. now it is after the privacy angle. now it ie wenn— after the privacy angle. now it is worth noting— after the privacy angle. now it is worth noting that that is a genuinely— is worth noting that that is a genuinely important point . okay? genuinely important point. okay? if genuinely important point. okay? if indeed— genuinely important point. okay? if indeed this— genuinely important point. okay? if indeed this is— genuinely important point. okay? if indeed this is a— genuinely important point. okay? if indeed this is a deep seated nevvev— if indeed this is a deep seated nevvev ei— if indeed this is a deep seated matter of principle, that the ceiinev— matter of principle, that the cabinet office _ matter of principle, that the cabinet office do not release all ei— cabinet office do not release all ei vnie— cabinet office do not release all of this stuff,— cabinet office do not release all of this stuff, then they welli— all of this stuff, then they would have _ all of this stuff, then they would have a— all of this stuff, then they would have a point, olivia, ieeewee— because is it sets a very wevvving— because is it sets a very worrying precedent. i think that if worrying precedent. i think that ii even— worrying precedent. i think that if evevv single— worrying precedent. i think that if every single whatsapp message or if every single whatsapp message ev evevv— if every single whatsapp message ev evevv single— if every single whatsapp message or every single email or every single— or every single email or every eingle lien— or every single email or every single diary entry— or every single email or every single diary entry from a whole neev— single diary entry from a whole neev ei— single diary entry from a whole neev en peeple— single diary entry from a whole neev en peeple .— single diary entry from a whole host of people , that is just

host of people, that is just given— host of people, that is just new wnev— host of people, that is just about what you- host of people, that is just about what you do on friday nignv. — about what you do on friday nigni. well— about what you do on friday night. well, nothing was ewppeeee— night. well, nothing was ewppeeee ve— night. well, nothing was supposed to be locked down. i'll see supposed to be locked down. i'll ven— supposed to be locked down. i'll ven ev— supposed to be locked down. i'll see you at downing street in ven.— see you at downing street in ven. snewle— see you at downing street in ten. should - be - see you at downing street in ten. should be should ten. should should be should vine— ten. should should be should vine-env— ten. should should be should find-out there- ten. should should be should find out there into find its way out there into into the find its way out there into into vne-veeln.— find its way out there into into the-realm.-yes,. the public realm. well, yes, i vneve— the public realm. well, yes, i mean, there those in mean, there are those in westminster— mean, there are those in westminster the westminster that are saying the reason—office. reason why the cabinet office is so reason why the cabinet office is ee velwevenv— reason why the cabinet office is so reluctant-over- reason why the cabinet office is so reluctant over these so reluctant to hand over these neeeegeelnev— so reluctant to hand over these messages not because there is messages is not because there is pining— messages is not because there is some sitting minister who has epil— some sitting minister who has said incriminating said something incriminating and new— said something incriminating and vnev—iv— said something incriminating and vnev—iv ve— said something incriminating and vnev—iv ve ie— said something incriminating and they—it to be seen. l they don't want it to be seen. it. they don't want it to be seen. in ie— they don't want it to be seen. in in view— they don't want it to be seen. in is me vs— they don't want it to be seen. it. is that as you— they don't want it to be seen. it. is that as you say,- they don't want it to be seen. it. is that as you say, it- they don't want it to be seen. it. is that as you say, it sets a dangerous precedent. if inquiries allowed access inquiries are allowed to access all irrelevant whatsapp all sorts of irrelevant whatsapp messages. and you'll notice that there an interesting bit in there was an interesting bit in there was an interesting bit in there the proper there about the proper functioning there about the proper funcisining there about the proper funcis something that james this is something that james eadie, government's top eadie, the government's top lawyer , has been about lawyer, has been talking about over days . what over the last few days. what he's is that there over the last few days. what hea is that there over the last few days. what hea danger is that there over the last few days. what hea danger that is that there over the last few days. what hea danger that obviouslyiere over the last few days. what hea danger that obviously the is a danger that obviously the way our government works is the government gives a view of collective responsibility . motty collective responsibility. motty so the government agrees on so when the government agrees on an issue, it will present a unhed an issue, it will present a united face to the public. so for example, the lockdown for example, when the lockdown laws were announced, laws were were announced, all of the ministers , every government the ministers, every government minister will come out and say exactly the same thing. that is how government functions. how the government functions. it's way it can it's the only way it can possibly the possibly throw someone under the

bus exactly . bus later. yeah, well, exactly. but the scenes, but but behind the scenes, ministers could and should. james. eady's argue, have robust conversations with each other where they disagree and only by having those conversations can they reach the collective responsibility dodi view. and if all of these whatsapp messages get into the public domain, well, it might make it more difficult. know, if we see difficult. you know, if we see that matt hancock and rishi sunak, example , were arguing sunak, for example, were arguing over the economic impact of lockdown , which of course they lockdown, which of course they will have been doing. is will have been doing. but is there a danger that in future government ministers won't want to each in to disagree with each other in cabinet meetings because it all could come out and obviously that would could potentially hinder the proper functioning of government? you want ministers to they think? olivia to say what they think? olivia thank you. great stuff, olivia, ewv-vepenev- thank you. great stuff, olivia, ewv-vepenev .- thank you. great stuff, olivia, our- reporter .ican. our political reporter. i can believe— our political reporter. i can believe-ei- our political reporter. i can believe-of-isl our political reporter. i can. believe-of-is true believe that all of this is true at believe that all of this is true ev-vine— believe that all of this is true ev-vine inev- believe that all of this is true at time that there's at the same time that there's even— at the same time that there's stuff government, at the same time that there's stuff governmentnment, at the same time that there's stuff government would be current government would be levied— current government would be vevviiiee ei— current government would be terrified of coming out. okay i elee— terrified of coming out. okay i can also believe— terrified of coming out. okay i can also believe that there is a deep— can also believe that there is a deep eewee— can also believe that there is a deep seated matter of principle at deep seated matter of principle ev—ie- deep seated matter of principle ev—ie inev- deep seated matter of principle ev—ie vnev evl at play here, which is that at any— at play here, which is that at any vnevnenv— at play here, which is that at any moment in— at play here, which is that at any moment in time, if an inguin— any moment in time, if an ingwivv ie— any moment in time, if an inquiry is called or has be

inquiry is called or has to be celled— inquiry is called or has to be called-realise- inquiry is called or has to be called realise that called and you realise that ven-ve— called and you realise that ven-ve gel— called and you realise that you've got-over- called and you realise that. you've got-over.of you've got a hand over all of velv— your personal whatsapp information,— information, etcetera, then you fine — find yourself maybe not communicating with communicating properly with peeple— communicating properly with peeple-ine- communicating properly with people the scenes. i also people behind the scenes. i also vninl— people behind the scenes. i also vninl vnev— people behind the scenes. i also think that the _ people behind the scenes. i also think that the labour party enewle— think that the labour party should incredibly careful should be incredibly careful wnev— should be incredibly careful wne—neve- should be incredibly careful- what_here, because should be incredibly careful- whatido-here, because should be incredibly careful what do day here, because should be incredibly careful what do day find, because if they do one day find themselves— if they do one day find themselves government and if themselves in government and if new— themselves in government and if they_themselvesj they do one day find themselves neving— they do one day find themselves nevinglnele— they do one day find themselves having-hold some— they do one day find themselves having hold some kind having to hold some kind of ingwivv— having to hold some kind of ingwivv-vnen- having to hold some kind of inquiry _then the. having to hold some kind of. inquiry-then the same inquiry like this, then the same vwlee— inquiry like this, then the same vwlee-epplv— inquiry like this, then the same rules-apply.them- inquiry like this, then the same rules-apply.them .- inquiry like this, then the same rules apply them . if rules would apply for them. if vnie— rules would apply for them. if this government— rules would apply for them. if this government is made to hand over absolutely everything, eeewning— over absolutely everything, assuming dating as it may be, vnen— assuming dating as it may be, vnen vne— assuming dating as it may be, then the same— assuming dating as it may be, then the same would have to apply— then the same would have to apply lilie— then the same would have to apply-the labour- then the same would have to apply the labour party going apply to the labour party going ievweve— apply to the labour party going ievwevelwell — apply to the labour party going forward-well. if— apply to the labour party going forward well. if they win forward as well. if they do win at forward as well. if they do win ev-genevel— forward as well. if they do win at general election. at the next general election. iv-e— at the next general election. ite—even- at the next general election. ite—even vniel it's a fascinating story this well— it's a fascinating story this well-ven— it's a fascinating story this well-ven up- it's a fascinating story this we'll-you up to- it's a fascinating story this we'll you up to date with we'll keep you up to date with it we'll keep you up to date with iv—leeee- we'll keep you up to date with it_loads more. it all, but there's loads more to it all, but there's loads more ve—enel it all, but there's loads more. ve—ene aea, it all, but there's loads more- ve—ene aea, ee to come between now and 6:00, so inev— to come between now and 6:00, so peel-inev— to come between now and 6:00, so peel-inev neig— to come between now and 6:00, so peel-inev nele up- to come between now and 6:00, so just-they held up the- just stop oil. they held up the england— england cricket team this nevning. — england cricket team thisi nevning. —ei england cricket team this- morning. _of their morning. i will ask one of their nevivieve— morning. i will ask one of their activists directly— morning. i will ask one of their activists directly they're activists directly if they're going— activists directly if they're going saturday's going to target saturday's fa cup— going to target saturday's fa cup final — going to target saturday's fa cup final env— going to target saturday's fa cup final. but first, your cup final. but first, as your neeelinee— cup final. but first, as your headlines-paul- cup final. but first, as your headlines-paul .- cup final. but first, as your headlines paul . patrick, headlines with paul. patrick, vnenle— headlines with paul. patrick, vnenle iev— headlines with paul. patrick, thanks for much— headlines with paul. patrick, thanks for much indeed. lv�*v�*iliee thanks for much indeed. well, the thanks for much indeed. well, we lep— thanks for much indeed. well, we vep even— thanks for much indeed. well, the top story this— thanks for much indeed. well, the top story this hour, as you've been hearing in the last few minutes, some breaking news. the cabinet office is seeking a legal now of the covid

legal challenge now of the covid inquiry order to release the former prime minister, boris johnson's whatsapp messages. it was given until 4 pm. today to disclose those messages between mr johnson and his advisers mrjohnson and his advisers dunng mrjohnson and his advisers during the pandemic , as well as during the pandemic, as well as his diaries and notebooks. and last night the prime minister said the government is confident in its position to respond to the covid inquiries demand for full disclosure of the private messages and papers. the cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant and claimed it didn't have to reveal it. but that breaking news in the last few moments the cabinet office is seeking a legal challenge now of the covid inquiry order to release those former prime minister boris johnson's whatsapp messages and diary entries. we'll keep tabs on that for you and of course, bnng on that for you and of course, bring you the latest as we get it. the meantime, labour has it. in the meantime, labour has received complaint over received a formal complaint over the conduct of the mp geraint davies, who's been suspended by the party pending an investigation reports of investigation into reports of seriously serious allegations of

completely unacceptable behaviour. the swansea west mp has had the whip removed and reviews being carried out and the itv boss, dame carolyn mccall , has the itv boss, dame carolyn mccall, has been called to the itv boss, dame carolyn mccall , has been called to face mccall, has been called to face questions from mps about the broadcaster's approach to safeguarding and handling complaints following tv presenter phillip schofield's departure from itv . dame mccall departure from itv. dame mccall has been asked by the culture, media and sport committee to answer questions on june the 14th. in a letter, she said philip made assurances to itv, which he now acknowledges were untrue. we feel badly let down, she says. it follows the fallout surrounding tv presenter phillip schofield's admission of a relationship with a younger male colleague at the daytime tv show this morning. colleague at the daytime tv show this morning . and lastly, the this morning. and lastly, the prince and princess of wales have made a surprise visit to the middle east, to jordan, to attend the wedding of the country's crown prince william and kate, among a of and kate, among a host of foreign guests nuptials foreign guests at the nuptials of prince hussein and his saudi arabia bride. the celebrations are being held at the zahran

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be considered a— so pay as you go. phones might be considered a thing of the peev— be considered a thing of the peel iev— be considered a thing of the past for some— be considered a thing of the past for some people. for those living— past for some people. for those driving electric— past for some people. for those driving electric car— past for some people. for those driving electric car though pay as wel— driving electric car though pay as ven enve— driving electric car though pay as you drive might become your iwvwve. — as you drive might become your iwvwve. ven— as you drive might become your future. you know— as you drive might become your future. you know just a basic inle— future. you know just a basic vwle ei— future. you know just a basic rule of principle.— future. you know just a basic rule of principle. all those vninge— rule of principle. all those ininge inev— rule of principle. all those things they told you wouldn't neppen— things they told you wouldn't happen .electric- things they told you wouldn't happen electric cars . yeah happen with electric cars. yeah vnev-ve— happen with electric cars. yeah inev-ve pvepeplv— happen with electric cars. yeah they're probably going to happen . veen.— they're probably going to happen . veen. se— they're probably going to happen . yeah. so government is . yeah. so the government is being— . yeah. so the government is being-enevge- . yeah. so the government is being-charge all. being urged to charge all eleevvie— being urged to charge all electric - users. - being urged to charge all electric users. six ipp per electric car users. six ipp per mile— electric car users. six ipp per mile vene— electric car users. six ipp per mile road tax— electric car users. six ipp per mile road tax to— electric car users. six ipp per mile road tax to make up for the inel— mile road tax to make up for the lack ei— mile road tax to make up for the lack ei inel— mile road tax to make up for the lack of fuel duty— mile road tax to make up for the lack of fuel duty they pay if enlv— lack of fuel duty they pay if only someone— lack of fuel duty they pay if only someone had seen all of win— only someone had seen all of vnie eveni— only someone had seen all of this stuff coming,— only someone had seen all of this stuff coming, the resolution— this stuff coming, the resolution foundation warning resolution foundation is warning the resolution foundation is warning vne iveeewvv— resolution foundation is warning the treasury that— resolution foundation is warning the treasury that it could face a the treasury that it could face e-iillien— the treasury that it could face a billion shortfall within a £10 billion shortfall within ten a £10 billion shortfall within ven veen— a £10 billion shortfall within ten years unless— a £10 billion shortfall within ten years unless it brings in new taxes on electric cars. i'm geing— new taxes on electric cars. i'm geing ve— new taxes on electric cars. i'm geing ve ge— new taxes on electric cars. i'm geing ve ge new— new taxes on electric cars. i'm geing ve ge ve— new taxes on electric cars. i'm going to go now to a man who nevee— going to go now to a man who nevee vnie— going to go now to a man who hates this stuff— going to go now to a man who hates this stuff with a visceral peeeien. — hates this stuff with a visceral peeeien. iv-e— hates this stuff with a visceral passion. it's broadcaster mike ievvv. — passion. it's broadcaster mike ievvv. wile— passion. it's broadcaster mike parry. mike thank you very much. wile— parry. mike thank you very much. wile leew— parry. mike thank you very much. wile leel. we— parry. mike thank you very much. mike look, we could see this eening— mike look, we could see this eening e— mike look, we could see this eening e six— mike look, we could see this coming a six mile off, couldn't wee— coming a six mile off, couldn't wee ievviel— coming a six mile off, couldn't we? patrick thanks very much for inviving— we? patrick thanks very much for inviving ne— we? patrick thanks very much for inviiing ne en— we? patrick thanks very much for inviting me on your— we? patrick thanks very much for inviting me on your show to be able— inviting me on your show to be able ve— inviting me on your show to be able ve give— inviting me on your show to be able ve give ven— inviting me on your show to be able to give you an opinion on inn.— able to give you an opinion on vnie. — able to give you an opinion on vnie. i— able to give you an opinion on vnie. i een-v— able to give you an opinion on this. i don't hate— able to give you an opinion on this. ci?" e f it. this. i don't hate electric cars. i just knew from this. v:v:::v" e i vi ce”; i just knew from the this. i don't hate electric- cars. i just knew from the start . es in— cars. i just knew from the start es in ven— cars. i just knew from the start , as i'm sure you did,- vif”; i just knew from the start , as i'm sure you did, that they eenplevelv— , as i'm sure you did, that they are completely economically

wnvieile. — are completely economically unviable. the— are completely economically unviable. the amount of money the government takes from tax, from motor who put petrol or diesel into their cars each year is £24 billion. so . so all is £24 billion. so. so all governments left and right, said we've got to go , you know, eco we've got to go, you know, eco we've got to go green and anybody who drives an electric car won't pay any tax. they've now discovered _ car won't pay any tax. they've now discovered that— vif” e they've now discovered that that vifl” e they've now discovered that that £24 iillien— now discovered that that £24 pillien ie— now discovered that that £24 billion is under— now discovered that that £24 billion is under threat . and so billion is under threat. and so vnev-ve— billion is under threat. and so vnev-ve eene— billion is under threat. and so they've come in— billion is under threat. and so they've come in with this ridic ieiwlewe— they've come in with this ridic fabulous notion— they've come in with this ridic fabulous notion that anybody who inves— fabulous notion that anybody who lives en— fabulous notion that anybody who drives an electric— fabulous notion that anybody who drives an electric car will have to drives an electric car will have ve pew.— drives an electric car will have ve pay- sw— drives an electric car will have ve pay- six pp— drives an electric car will have to pay. six ipp per— drives an electric car will have to pay. six ipp per mile. but ine— to pay. six ipp per mile. but we wnele— to pay. six ipp per mile. but the whole proposition an is lweievewe— the whole proposition an is ludicrous and— the whole proposition an is ludicrous and ridiculous. ileevvie— ludicrous and ridiculous. electric cars— ludicrous and ridiculous. electric cars do not work . it's electric cars do not work. it's a electric cars do not work. it's e eillv— electric cars do not work. it's a silly political— electric cars do not work. it's a silly political ideology . it a silly political ideology. it eeeen-v— a silly political ideology. it doesn't work— a silly political ideology. it doesn't work in— a silly political ideology. it doesn't work in principle and it eeeen-v— doesn't work in principle and it eeeen-v wew— doesn't work in principle and it doesn't work in— doesn't work in principle and it doesn't work in practise us eleevvie— doesn't work in practise us electric cars. _ doesn't work in practise us electric cars. remember they're if its— electric cars. remember they're if in e— electric cars. remember they're if in e cele— electric cars. remember they're if it's a cold night— electric cars. remember they're if it's a cold night and you're an eleevvie— if it's a cold night and you're an electric car,— if it's a cold night and you're

an electric car, you can knock off an electric car, you can knock en lo— an electric car, you can knock en no ev— an electric car, you can knock en no ev so— an electric car, you can knock off 40 or 50 miles- an electric car, you can knock off 40 or 50 miles of how far you— off 40 or 50 miles of how far ven een— off 40 or 50 miles of how far ven ge. — off 40 or 50 miles of how far ven ge. ii— off 40 or 50 miles of how far you can go. if you— off 40 or 50 miles of how far you can go. if you switch on velv— you can go. if you switch on vewv neevev— you can go. if you switch on your heater or— you can go. if you switch on your heater or put your headlights— your heater or put your headlights on. it's a ludicrous pvepeeiiien— headlights on. it's a ludicrous pvepeeivien .— headlights on. it's a ludicrous proposition . an— headlights on. it's a ludicrous proposition . an electric cars proposition. an electric cars ee neevv— proposition. an electric cars are so heavy that some local ewvneviviee— are so heavy that some local authorities in— are so heavy that some local authorities in this country , i authorities in this country, i vninl— authorities in this country, i think nottingham is one of them, are think nottingham is one of them, neving— think nottingham is one of them, neving ve— think nottingham is one of them, are having to restructure their car are having to restructure their penwe.— are having to restructure their car parks, their— are having to restructure their car parks, their multi—storey penwe— car parks, their multi—storey car parks because electric cars ee neevv— car parks because electric cars ee neevv vnev— car parks because electric cars are so heavy they might demolish are so heavy they might demoliin the are so heavy they might demolish vne env— are so heavy they might demolish vne penwe— are so heavy they might demolish the car parks if— are so heavy they might demolish the car parks if there's too menw— the car parks if there's too nenv ei— the car parks if there's too many of them— the car parks if there's too many of them .- the car parks if there's too many of them . on one level, the many of them. on one level, the wee— many of them. on one level, the wee en— many of them. on one level, the wee en en— many of them. on one level, the tyres on an electric— many of them. on one level, the tyres on an electric car disin invegveve— tyres on an electric car disin integrate much— tyres on an electric car disin integrate much faster than tyres on integrate much faster than tyres en eveinevv— integrate much faster than tyres en eveinevv env— integrate much faster than tyres on ordinary car because the car is ee— on ordinary car because the car is ee neevv— on ordinary car because the car is ee neevv ene— on ordinary car because the car is so heavy and that makes air pellwvien— is so heavy and that makes air pollution even— is so heavy and that makes air pollution even around the roads ene— pollution even around the roads and eleevvie— pollution even around the roads and electric cars— pollution even around the roads and electric cars drive on much more difficult— and electric cars drive on much more difficult for— and electric cars drive on much more difficult for people to iveevne— more difficult for people to iveevne .— more difficult for people to breathe . the— more difficult for people to breathe . the whole thing is breathe. the whole thing is evenly— breathe. the whole thing is utterly ludicrous and i would say— utterly ludicrous and i would new new— utterly ludicrous and i would say now please— utterly ludicrous and i would say now please rethink , take say now please rethink, take eevep— say now please rethink, take eevep ine— say now please rethink, take scrap the electric car philosoth- scrap the electric car philosophy because it's rubbish and iv— philosophy because it's rubbish and it doesn't— philosophy because it's rubbish and it doesn't work . and by the and it doesn't work. and by the way,— and it doesn't work. and by the

wew ii— and it doesn't work. and by the wew. iv enlv— and it doesn't work. and by the wew. iv enlv ew— and it doesn't work. and by the way, if only 3% of— and it doesn't work. and by the way, if only 3% of us in this eewnvvv— way, if only 3% of us in this eewnvvv in— way, if only 3% of us in this country in the— way, if only 3% of us in this country in the uk were driving eleevvie— country in the uk were driving electric cars— country in the uk were driving electric cars in— country in the uk were driving electric cars in ten years time, wee— electric cars in ten years time, well neee— electric cars in ten years time, well neee ve— electric cars in ten years time, we'd need to open— electric cars in ten years time, we'd need to open at least one new nuclear power— we'd need to open at least one new nuclear power station to enable— new nuclear power station to enable we— new nuclear power station to enable we ve— new nuclear power station to enable us to get— new nuclear power station to enable us to get enough eleevvieivv— enable us to get enough electricity obe to fuel those veen.— electricity obe to fuel those cars. yeah, it's— electricity obe to fuel those cars. l/vzifl" e e cars. yeah, it's almost like they went, okay, i'll tell you what. sell your existing car, which works. it's fine . and you which works. it's fine. and you can factor that into your daily lives . and when you really lives. and when you really consider the environmental damage that what you are doing in car is doing in your car alone is doing to the it's nothing . so you the world, it's nothing. so you sell , pay a load more sell that car, pay a load more money for an electric vehicle. we promise you it will work out cheaperin we promise you it will work out cheaper in the long run . oh, cheaper in the long run. oh, what's that? we've whacked up your electricity having your electricity bills. having your electricity bills. having your . all we have. your energy bills. all we have. right. yeah, oh right. okay. yeah, fine. oh we're to we're going to have to restructure outside so restructure the road outside so your going go your taxes are going to go up. oh, all right, fine. oh, oh, okay. all right, fine. oh, well, yeah. 6 pm. mile. i mean, what next? how what will it be next? oh, how long going to long is that battery going to last? long. so you'll last? not that long. so you'll have new a few have to get a new one in a few years time. this is just years time. my, this is just a giant con, it not? the whole.

giant con, is it not? the whole. the giant con, is it not? the whole. ine wnele— giant con, is it not? the whole. the whole electric— giant con, is it not? the whole. the whole electric car- gem eli?" e “m7 the whole. the whole electric car thing is a the whole electric car thing is e ginni— the whole electric car thing is e gieni joke— the whole electric car thing is egieni iele en— the whole electric car thing is a giant joke on us. you know, it came from the— a giant joke on us. you know, it came from the eco— a giant joke on us. you know, it came from the eco warriors . we came from the eco warriors. we all gei— came from the eco warriors. we all gev ve— came from the eco warriors. we all got to drive— came from the eco warriors. we all got to drive electric cars. i all got to drive electric cars. i mean— all got to drive electric cars. l ee— all got to drive electric cars. i mean, do people understand inev— i mean, do people understand me i— i mean, do people understand me i an— i mean, do people understand that ? an electric— i mean, do people understand that ? an electric car, one third that? an electric car, one third of that? an electric car, one third ei en— that? an electric car, one third of an electric— that? an electric car, one third of an electric car— that? an electric car, one third of an electric car is the eenen.— of an electric car is the pevievv. se— of an electric car is the battery. so when i first bought my battery. so when i first bought nv inev— battery. so when i first bought nv vivev env— battery. so when i first bought my vivev e— battery. so when i first bought my first car, a vauxhall viva eewen— my first car, a vauxhall viva pang, vne — my first car, a vauxhall viva patrick, the battery was a live— patrick, the battery was a little square— patrick, the battery was a little square box in the front wneevneevn— little square box in the front underneath the _ little square box in the front underneath the bonnet, which was weee— underneath the bonnet, which was weee ve— underneath the bonnet, which was weee ve even— underneath the bonnet, which was used to start the— underneath the bonnet, which was used to start the engine. the eenen— used to start the engine. the ievvevv ene— used to start the engine. the battery and electric car is the wnele— battery and electric car is the wnele lengvn— battery and electric car is the whole length of— battery and electric car is the whole length of the car. on one vnive— whole length of the car. on one vnive ei— whole length of the car. on one vnive ei ine— whole length of the car. on one third of the floor. _ whole length of the car. on one third of the floor. it's so neevv— third of the floor. it's so neevv inev— third of the floor. it's so heavy that it— third of the floor. it's so heavy that it makes potholes seem irrelevant— heavy that it makes potholes seem irrelevant to the weight of an seem irrelevant to the weight of en eleevvie— seem irrelevant to the weight of an electric car— seem irrelevant to the weight of an electric car .— seem irrelevant to the weight of an electric car. it's— seem irrelevant to the weight of an electric car. it's ludicrous. ane— an electric car. it's ludicrous. ane iv— an electric car. it's ludicrous. ani iv ine— an electric car. it's ludicrous. ani iv ine wew— an electric car. it's ludicrous. and by the way, when the eleeivie— and by the way, when the electric battery- and by the way, when the electric battery in electric car ewi. ven— electric battery in electric car runs out, you can't replace it . runs out, you can't replace it. ven— runs out, you can't replace it. ven neve— runs out, you can't replace it. ven neve ie— runs out, you can't replace it. you have to just— runs out, you can't replace it. you have to just scrap the car. ven— you have to just scrap the car. ven neve— you have to just scrap the car. ven neve ie— you have to just scrap the car. you have to scrap— you have to just scrap the car. you have to scrap it. the whole ining— you have to scrap it. the whole ining ie— you have to scrap it. the whole ining ie ewen— you have to scrap it. the whole ining ie ewen e— you have to scrap it. the whole thing is such a ludicrous and viiiewlewe— thing is such a ludicrous and ridiculous proposition . an and ridiculous proposition. an and by ridiculous proposition. an and iv ine— ridiculous proposition. an and iv ine wiv— ridiculous proposition. an and iv ine wev .— ridiculous proposition. an and iv ine wev . eni— ridiculous proposition. an and by the way , and you know this, by the way, and you know this, naivel— by the way, and you know this, pang, in— by the way, and you know this, patrick, in this—

by the way, and you know this, patrick, in this country, the enginee— patrick, in this country, the enginee we— patrick, in this country, the engines we use— patrick, in this country, the engines we use in cars , which engines we use in cars, which are normal, like— engines we use in cars, which are normal, like petrol and iieeel— are normal, like petrol and diesel cars,— are normal, like petrol and diesel cars, are— are normal, like petrol and diesel cars, are the cleanest in ine— diesel cars, are the cleanest in ine veili— diesel cars, are the cleanest in the world and— diesel cars, are the cleanest in the world and they contribute nininel— the world and they contribute nininel .— the world and they contribute minimal, minimal, minimal damage to minimal, minimal, minimal damage ie ine— minimal, minimal, minimal damage to the atmosphere— minimal, minimal, minimal damage to the atmosphere ,— minimal, minimal, minimal damage to the atmosphere , to the way to the atmosphere, to the way inni— to the atmosphere, to the way inei we — to the atmosphere, to the way inei we live — to the atmosphere, to the way that we live and— to the atmosphere, to the way that we live and breathe. the wnele— that we live and breathe. the wnele ining— that we live and breathe. the whole thing is— that we live and breathe. the whole thing is a— that we live and breathe. the whole thing is a preposterous, viiiewlewe— whole thing is a preposterous, viiiewlewe .— whole thing is a preposterous, ridiculous , us— whole thing is a preposterous, ridiculous , us political ridiculous, us political iieelegv— ridiculous, us political iieelegv ,— ridiculous, us political ideology , and it should be ideology, and it should be eeveppei— ideology, and it should be scrapped right— ideology, and it should be scrapped right now. mike, thank you scrapped right now. mike, thank vew vevv— scrapped right now. mike, thank vew vevv nwen. — scrapped right now. mike, thank you very much. u scrapped right now. mike, thank you very much. 3 you very much. strong stuff as even you very much. strong stuff as ever. the legend that is. mike parry, thank you. okay, look. action packed . final bit of this action packed. final bit of this show. i'm going to try and squeezeit show. i'm going to try and squeeze it all in because there's going to be 80,000 fans, more saturday's cup more than at saturday's fa cup final. just stop oil. are final. but just stop oil. are they to the day for they going to ruin the day for everyone why there everyone and find out why there is some pushback to is finally some pushback to these ridiculous diversity agendas on in our films, agendas going on in our films, on our tvs , in our theatres. i'm on our tvs, in our theatres. i'm patrick christys on gb news news,

night from 11 on gb news eviiein-e— night from 11 on gb news britain's news— night from 11 on gb news britain's news . night from 11 on gb news britain's news. channel senior ieliee— britain's news. channel senior police officer— britain's news. channel senior police officer has— britain's news. channel senior police officer has said that inev— police officer has said that vpei siep— police officer has said that vpei siep oil— police officer has said that just stop oil protesters will be ieeli— just stop oil protesters will be ieeli wiin— just stop oil protesters will be dealt with in— just stop oil protesters will be dealt with in a— just stop oil protesters will be dealt with in a speedy and veiwei— dealt with in a speedy and veiwei wiv— dealt with in a speedy and robust way if— dealt with in a speedy and robust way if they try to iievai— robust way if they try to disrupt this— robust way if they try to disrupt this weekend's fa cup iinel — disrupt this weekend's fa cup vinal. wei— disrupt this weekend's fa cup final. just stop.— disrupt this weekend's fa cup final. just stop. oil- disrupt this weekend's fa cup final. just stop. oil have targeted a number of sporting events , including the world events, including the world snooker april . snooker championship in april. last saturday, on the last saturday, they were on the pitch at the premiership rugby union twickenham , and union final at twickenham, and today cricket team today the england cricket team is was blocked at the way to is bus was blocked at the way to lord's test match against lord's for a test match against ireland . joining lord's for a test match against ireland .joining me now is just ireland. joining me now is just stop oil spokesperson is james harvey . james, thank you very harvey. james, thank you very much. great to see you. so are

you going to disrupt the fa cup final? yeah. thanks for having me en agein— �*" “17 yeah. thanks for having me on again, patrick. �*7 “fl7 yeah. thanks for having me on again, patrick. good to epeel— me on again, patrick. good to epeel ie— me on again, patrick. good to epeel ie ven— me on again, patrick. good to speak to you again . '“v: speak to you again. and neneeilv.— speak to you again. and honestly, i'm— speak to you again. and honestly, i'm a spokesperson . honestly, i'm a spokesperson. they don't tell me stuff like that too much of that because i'm too much of a gossip. but will say is gossip. but what i will say is inel— gossip. but what i will say is inn-knew.— gossip. but what i will say is that,-know, any- gossip. but what i will say is that,-know, any sort- that, you know, any sort of iievaiien— that, you know, any sort of disruption as disruption will stop as soon as the disruption will stop as soon as ine—eiepe- disruption will stop as soon asi the—stops investing disruption will stop as soon as tthew stops investing disruption will stop as soon as tthew gas. investing disruption will stop as soon as tthew gas. “vizsting disruption will stop as soon as. tthew-gas. the football in new oil and gas. the football match weekend ? i don't match this weekend? i don't know. you. i'll tell know. i'll tell you. i'll tell you, like know. i'll tell you. i'll tell ven-live ii- know. i'll tell you. i'll tell you,-like it if- know. i'll tell you. i'll tell you,-like it if dale, you, i would like it if dale, wince-e— you, i would like it if dale, vince's-was- you, i would like it if dale, vince's was playing at vince's team was playing at veveei— vince's team was playing at| forest—because forest green rovers because. weve—neven-i forest green rovers because. we've isorry - haven't forest green rovers because. we'veisorry ._haven't forest green rovers because we've haven't forest green rovers because we've 5g? "7’en't forest green rovers because- we'veisorry . say again? they've they? sorry. say again? they've just been relegated . don't know, just been relegated. don't know, actually. but— just been relegated. don't know, actually. but he— just been relegated. don't know, actually. but he has. - just been relegated. don't know, actually. but he has. he- 3: don't know, actually. but he has. i; actually. but he has. he has agreed— actually. but he has. he has agreed to— actually. but he has. he has agreed to double all donations to just a over over the next 24 hours. so if you've got a few pence— hours. so if you've got a few pepee pape— hours. so if you've got a few pepee pee |— hours. so if you've got a few pence spare, i think- so if you've got a few pence spare, i think we've repea— pence spare, i think we've eeieee es— pence spare, i think we've raised 65 grand- pence spare, i think we've raised 65 grand in the last 24 hours— raised 65 grand in the last 24 hours pe— raised 65 grand in the last 24 hours go to— raised 65 grand in the last 24 hours go to just— raised 65 grand in the last 24 hours go to just stop oil.org epe— hours go to just stop oil.org ene cheek— hours go to just stop oil.org and chuck us— hours go to just stop oil.org and chuck us a— hours go to just stop oil.org and chuck us a few quid thank you— and chuck us a few quid thank you very— and chuck us a few quid thank you very much. — and chuck us a few quid thank you very much. . "cage you very much. it's really fascinating. now james erg, i've managed grand for managed to raise 55 grand for the health charity mind the mental health charity mind because want to save because i actually want to save some lives, it appears some lives, whereas it appears that ruin some. so that you want to ruin some. so there a key difference there. there is a key difference there. i think, isn't there really? but what, what, would the what, what, what would the benefit be you of disrupting

benefit be for you of disrupting a load of working class mancunians from getting to watch their teams play in an fa cup final? how is that going to benefit cause at yeah benefit your cause at all? yeah i mean, it's a really good question. people ask that all the question. people ask that all epe eme— question. people ask that all the time, but— question. people ask that all the time, but it's— : people ask that all the time, but it's the principle of evn— the time, but it's the principle of civil resistance,— the time, but it's the principle of civil resistance, civil disobedience - of civil resistance, civil disobedience . and you see disobedience. and you can see the-eere— disobedience. and you can see| the _there _you're the pictures there which you're pumpe— the pictures there which you're peeping—epe- the pictures there which you're peeping—ene ofl the pictures there which you're. putting—one of our putting up, which was one of our eetteepuee— putting up, which was one of our colleagues, everyone just colleagues, sam, everyone just thinke— colleagues, sam, everyone just minke—ep— colleagues, sam, everyone just thinks an absolute thinks that guy's an absolute piueek. — thinks that guy's an absolute ppueek. iene— thinks that guy's an absolute pillock. .one thinks- thinks that guy's an absolute pillock. “

used to say that, didn't they? oh, publicity is good oh, any publicity is good publicity. well, it says it's not, well, look , it's not, is it? well, look, it's getting. it's getting things discussed— getting. it's getting things ddsedssed .— getting. it's getting things discussed . we've- 924. “g it's getting things discussed . we've got 9:;.. “9 it's getting things discussed . we've got every, discussed. we've got every, every— discussed. we've got every, every-political- discussed. we've got every, every political party apart every uk political party apart from—nowl every uk political party apart- fempew— agree from the conservatives now agree deed— from the conservatives now agree deed we— from the conservatives now agree deed we need— from the conservatives now agree that we need no— from the conservatives now agree that we need no oil— from the conservatives now agree that we need no oil and gas. the scientists—us.- scientists are telling us, the dw— scientists are telling us, the uw—ds- scientists are telling us, the un_us agenciesl un are telling us agencies end— un are telling us agencies around-world- un are telling us agencies around world are telling us around the world are telling us it's-conservatives- around the world are telling us it's conservatives that it's just the conservatives that —en w.- it's just the conservatives that seem _on it. so. seem to be behind on it. so nepenwdw— seem to be behind on it. so hopefully when— seem to be behind on it. so hopefully when labour get into power— hopefully when labour get into power-ween— hopefully when labour get into power-ween .— hopefully when labour get into power-year , we'll- hopefully when labour get into power year , we'll an power next year, we'll see an end— power next year, we'll see an end to— power next year, we'll see an end de eu— power next year, we'll see an end to all these— power next year, we'll see an end to all these new oil and gas pdens— end to all these new oil and gas pdens-dne— end to all these new oil and gas plans the government wants end to all these new oil and gas pl.push the government wants end to all these new oil and gas pl.push the withdrnment wants end to all these new oil and gas pl.push the with in�*nent wants end to all these new oil and gas pl.push the with in thet wants end to all these new oil and gas pl.push the with in the norths to push ahead with in the north see.— to push ahead with in the north see. so— to push ahead with in the north see. so enese— to push ahead with in the north sea. so these discussions, these enese— sea. so these discussions, these enese eedens— sea. so these discussions, these these actions are— sea. so these discussions, these these actions are getting it inde— these actions are getting it. into—consciousness. these actions are getting it into that's consciousness. these actions are getting it into that's really iousness. these actions are getting it into that's really important and that's the really important endnp— and that's the really important. wind—wed and that's the really important. endanen—ved and that's the really important. thing|on and _you and that's the really important. thing|on and push _you and that's the really important thing pa“: 9 and that's the really important thing 5“: 9 come on and push this message. farage you yourself ? are you farage are you yourself? are you yourself doing things like you know, sitting down in roadways , know, sitting down in roadways, glueing yourself to stuff or , or glueing yourself to stuff or, or what? there's all sorts of different ways you can support . different ways you can support. i will be down in london in a sedpde— i will be down in london in a eedpde en— i will be down in london in a couple of weeks— i will be down in london in a couple of weeks time because i am because james— couple of weeks time because i am because james because the wind— am because james because the wind-.— am because james because the dndnpl. denes— am because james because the thingl, james, it's- am because james because the thing , james, it's a matter thing is, james, it's a matter of thing is, james, it's a matter on wne.— thing is, james, it's a matter on wne. dsn-d— thing is, james, it's a matter of time, isn't it,— thing is, james, it's a matter of time, isn't it, before one of ne— of time, isn't it, before one of ene peepde— of time, isn't it, before one of

ene peepde wne— of time, isn't it, before one of the people who listens to your nesseed— the people who listens to your message as the _ the people who listens to your message as the spokesperson weds— message as the spokesperson wews edd— message as the spokesperson walks out into— message as the spokesperson walks out into a— message as the spokesperson walks out into a road and gets run over and killed or beaten to deedn— run over and killed or beaten to deedn en— run over and killed or beaten to death or falls— run over and killed or beaten to death or falls off— run over and killed or beaten to death or falls off a— run over and killed or beaten to death or falls off a bridge or senedndnd— death or falls off a bridge or something like— death or falls off a bridge or something like that , and will something like that, and will you— something like that, and will we feed— something like that, and will you feel responsible for it? needse— you feel responsible for it? needse .— you feel responsible for it? because i can't— you feel responsible for it? because i can't help- you feel responsible for it? because i can't help but notice you appear to be backing your rather lovely house in norwich. is it where work as is it where you work as a project manager? is that right? and there people there on and there are people up there on a different room today, though. patrick you'd you patrick thought you'd give you a different—right.- patrick thought you'd give you ai different—right. no different room. that's right. no of it's got of course. i imagine it's got lots probably but. lots of rooms. probably but. well, you've got well, you know, you've got a nice cushy project nice cushy job as a project manager. but someone will listen to what you're saying and they'll and they will they'll walk out and they will take all risk, won't they, take all the risk, won't they, james of have you been arrested as a result of these actions? just stop oil or not? i've been i've been involved— just stop oil or not? i've been i've been involved with- . “57 i've been i've been involved with actions been— i've been involved with actions been wwn— i've been involved with actions both with extinction rebellion in both with extinction rebellion nes-— both with extinction rebellion nes- wed— both with extinction rebellion in-as well as- both with extinction rebellion in as well as just stop in the past as well as just stop oil in the past as well as just stop on .— in the past as well as just stop on . newen-d— in the past as well as just stop oil i haven't personally been enesded— oil i haven't personally been arrested often— oil i haven't personally been arrested often behind the camera on arrested often behind the camera een-winds.— arrested often behind the camera en-dndnds. pud— arrested often behind the camera on-things, but it's- arrested often behind the camera on things, but it's always arrested often behind the camera 0|possibility1gs, but it's always arrested often behind the camera 0|possibility .js, but it's always arrested often behind the camera 0|possibility . we)ut it's always arrested often behind the camera 0|possibility . we go it's always arrested often behind the camera 0|possibility . we go through ys a possibility. we go through does— a possibility. we go through does of— a possibility. we go through lots of training— a possibility. we go through lots of training to ensure we we needy— lots of training to ensure we one, we really stick to our non—violent— one, we really stick to our non—violent discipline. the peeeefdd— non—violent discipline. the

peaceful discipline and would be ewfdd— peaceful discipline and would be ewfdd n— peaceful discipline and would be awful if anyone— peaceful discipline and would be awful if anyone is— peaceful discipline and would be awful if anyone is hurt. opwedsw— awful if anyone is hurt. opwewsw — awful if anyone is hurt. obviously but- awful if anyone is hurt. obviously :5 awful if anyone is hurt.— obviously but do you know what? do you not feel some responsibility for that? james would you not feel some responsibility? you are responsibility? you are you are like sitting like a puppet master sitting here telling people to go out and things and you're taking and do things and you're taking none risk. get none of the risk. you just get to watch it, don't to sit back and watch it, don't you someone to sit back and watch it, don't you get someone to sit back and watch it, don't you get seriously someone to sit back and watch it, don't you get seriously hurtomeone to sit back and watch it, don't you get seriously hurt .neone might get seriously hurt. someone might criminal someone might get a criminal record , you know? but you don't record, you know? but you don't care about that , do you? oh care about that, do you? oh absolutely do care about that. and i will be down to take the sensen— and i will be down to take the chance yourself,— and i will be down to take the chance yourself, said james. wnes— chance yourself, said james. wnes .— chance yourself, said james. wnes . se— chance yourself, said james. what i care more— chance yourself, said james. what i care more about is not doing— what i care more about is not doing enwsndnp. — what i care more about is not doing anything. �*j5 what i care more about is not doing anything. j5 . doing anything. do it yourself. we've gone . sorry. say again ? we've gone. sorry. say again? why don't you do it? go on. you sene— why don't you do it? go on. you sewe sne— why don't you do it? go on. you take the risk, mate. practice what preach don't send take the risk, mate. practice what some, ach don't send take the risk, mate. practice what some, some,jon't send take the risk, mate. practice what some, some, someend take the risk, mate. practice what some, some, some poor, some, some, some, some poor, some, some, some, some poor, some poor undergraduate who's possibly suffering as indeed some of the members of just i've spoken to who are suffering from mental health problems . you send mental health problems. you send them out there to go and get a criminal record and destroy the rest lives in a rest of their lives and you in a massive gap norwich . wish massive gap in norwich. wish i did a massive gap in did have a massive gap in norwich, but as i said, about three times so far, i've already

been down to london the slow been down to london on the slow march. i'm going again march. i'm going down again in a ssdpde— march. i'm going down again in a ssdpde-end— march. i'm going down again in a couple-and there'll- march. i'm going down again in a couple-and there'll be. couple of weeks and there'll be eenen— couple of weeks and there'll be other actions— couple of weeks and there'll be other actions coming up in the newne— other actions coming up in the wewe-d— other actions coming up in the wewe-d de— other actions coming up in the future-i do feel- future which i do feel a moral responsibility— future which i do feel a moral responsibility-get- future which i do feel a moral responsibility get involved future which i do feel a moral resp(andnility get involved future which i do feel a moral resp(and people get involved future which i do feel a moral resp(and people caninvolved future which i do feel a moral resp(and people can support us with and people can support us in en— with and people can support us in en wew— with and people can support us in en wew they_ with and people can support us in any way they they could in any way they like. they could be in any way they like. they could pe-ssddd— in any way they like. they could pe-ssddd pe— in any way they like. they could be could be joining us be they could be joining us on the be they could be joining us on ene-sn— be they could be joining us on ene-sn-ssddd- be they could be joining us on the-or-could bei the marches or they could be speennp— the marches or they could be speaking about— the marches or they could be speaking about us their speaking about us to their friends— speaking about us to their friends .family- speaking about us to their friends family indeed friends and family or indeed dsnednp— friends and family or indeed| donating—oil.org. donating to just stop oil.org. as donating to just stop oil.org. dds-sender- donating to just stop oil.org. as-eenden .- donating to just stop oil.org. as-earlier , what. donating to just stop oil.org. as earlier , what kind of as we said earlier, what kind of peep-ess— as we said earlier, what kind of projects-manage? - as we said earlier, what kind of projects manage? projects do you manage? james all projects do you manage? james add-ef— projects do you manage? james all-of different— projects do you manage? james all of different ones. it all sorts of different ones. it could be it ones, it could be governance ones. - could be it ones, it could be governance ones. it really varies depending on what my ssnpenw— varies depending on what my company requires of me. but ween.— company requires of me. but ween. dds— company requires of me. but ween. ds-s .— company requires of me. but ween. n-s . dds— company requires of me. but yeah, it's , it's an— company requires of me. but yeah, it's , it's an interesting yeah, it's, it's an interesting j'0b- — yeah, it's, it's an interesting pep. okay-— yeah, it's, it's an interesting job. okay. you've- yeah, it's, it's an interesting job. /:in.. yeah, it's, it's an interesting job. flip 9:ip. job. okay. you've obviously got a lot of time on your hands. james thank you. james harvey though, just up. all spokesperson right. okay look, i've spokesperson right. okay look, pve got spokesperson right. okay look, i've got about i've probably only got about 30s for not sure if i've even for this. not sure if i've even got but conservative film got time, but conservative film critic on woke critic has declared war on woke . set up a . james carrick has set up a website which tells people if a film is worth watching or if it's whoa. well how long it's too. whoa. well how long have well i've obviously have i got? well i've obviously not got time for it then, unfortunately. there we go. unfortunately. well there we go. thank you very much, everybody. i was going to darren i was going to talk darren

grimes i'll have grimes about that, but i'll have to back tomorrow. to get him back on tomorrow. look, absolute look, he's been an absolute roarer co is roarer of a show. dewbs& co is up next. michelle dewberry will be lighting your for be lighting up your screens for the next hour. thank you very much, everybody been much, everybody who's been watching and tuning in, make sure tuned because sure that you stay tuned because we're to a we're probably going to get a little news little bit more breaking news in relation that covid i9 relation to that covid i9 inquiry, aren't we potentially the government, rishi sunak several of the people are going to find themselves in a lot of legal hot water. thank you. for everyone who's been watching and listening we'll you listening in and we'll see you very shortly . afternoon. alex very shortly. afternoon. alex peekin— very shortly. afternoon. alex peenn neee— very shortly. afternoon. alex deakin here with— p53 afternoon. alex deakin here with your latest weeene— deakin here with your latest weather update— deakin here with your latest weather update from the met opp..— weather update from the met oppdse pen— weather update from the met office for gb— weather update from the met office for gb news. the outlook is sne— office for gb news. the outlook is ene se— office for gb news. the outlook is the same as— office for gb news. the outlook is the same as it— office for gb news. the outlook is the same as it has been for nose— is the same as it has been for most sp— is the same as it has been for nest of ends— is the same as it has been for most of this week. _ is the same as it has been for most of this week. generally dry end— most of this week. generally dry end snnw— most of this week. generally dry and sunny, although it should be and sunny, although it should be a-ddy_ and sunny, although it should be e-dew-sp- and sunny, although it should be e-dew-sp pne- a sunnier day in parts of the eese— a sunnier day in parts of the east compared— a sunnier day in parts of the east compared to— a sunnier day in parts of the east compared to today. high pressure continues to dominate end— pressure continues to dominate end snee— pressure continues to dominate end pnep does— pressure continues to dominate and that goes for— pressure continues to dominate and that goes for the weekend as wed.— and that goes for the weekend as wed. nup— and that goes for the weekend as well. but around— and that goes for the weekend as well. but around that high, the presse— well. but around that high, the breeze continues— well. but around that high, the breeze continues to feed in from the breeze continues to feed in from ene wenn— breeze continues to feed in from ene wenn see.— breeze continues to feed in from the north sea. it's— breeze continues to feed in from the north sea. it's kept things penw— the north sea. it's kept things fairly speedw— the north sea. it's kept things fairly cloudy here through the dew. — fairly cloudy here through the dew. -sdsdd— fairly cloudy here through the day. _cloud here- fairly cloudy here through the day. cloud here this day. a lot of cloud here this evening— day. a lot of cloud here this ewenpnp end— day. a lot of cloud here this evening and spilling back in across-midlands- evening and spilling back in across midlands into parts across the midlands into parts of across the midlands into parts

sp-ssspdend- across the midlands into parts of-scotland ,- across the midlands into parts of scotland , eventually of southern scotland, eventually inse— of southern scotland, eventually dnps-wedes— of southern scotland, eventually dnps-wedes es— of southern scotland, eventually into-wales as well,- of southern scotland, eventually into wales as well, where into east wales as well, where it into east wales as well, where is spews— into east wales as well, where pp spews deep— into east wales as well, where it stays clear on— into east wales as well, where it stays clear on the west coast of wens.— it stays clear on the west coast of wedes. ene — it stays clear on the west coast of wales, the far— it stays clear on the west coast of wales, the far southwest of addend— of wales, the far southwest of england, northern ireland and ndsn— england, northern ireland and ndsn sp— england, northern ireland and much of scotland. it will turn puppe— much of scotland. it will turn quite temperatures much of scotland. it will turn quite rural temperatures much of scotland. it will turn quite rural spots. |peratures much of scotland. it will turn quite rural spots. well ures much of scotland. it will turn quite rural spots. well down in some rural spots. well down inse— in some rural spots. well down dnps sdndde— in some rural spots. well down into single digits— in some rural spots. well down into single digits for most wnen— into single digits for most wnene dds— into single digits for most where it's cloudy start where it's cloudy will start nddew— where it's cloudy will start endew 8— where it's cloudy will start npdew. 8 sn— where it's cloudy will start friday, 8 or 9— where it's cloudy will start friday, 8 or 9 celsius, but we wid— friday, 8 or 9 celsius, but we wdd ededn— friday, 8 or 9 celsius, but we will again start— friday, 8 or 9 celsius, but we will again start with a lot of speed.— will again start with a lot of speed. wew.— will again start with a lot of cloud. now, i— will again start with a lot of cloud. now, i think on friday, sne— cloud. now, i think on friday, ene spend— cloud. now, i think on friday, ene sdsdd ps— cloud. now, i think on friday, the cloud is going to break a the cloud is going to break up a news— the cloud is going to break up a little-today— the cloud is going to break up a ddpde-psdew .- the cloud is going to break up a little _today . n- the cloud is going to break up a little today . it broke little bit more today. it broke up little bit more today. it broke dp-pnen— little bit more today. it broke up than wednesday and up more than wednesday and i pndnn— up more than wednesday and i pndnn-w-d— up more than wednesday and i think-it'll break- up more than wednesday and i think it'll break up think on friday it'll break up even more. so— think on friday it'll break up even more. so eastern even more. so these eastern ssdndes— even more. so these eastern counties-have- even more. so these eastern- counties-have-glum counties that have been so glum end— counties that have been so glum end-snsddd— counties that have been so glum and-should be- counties that have been so glum and-should be a- counties that have been so glum and should be a little and so cold should be a little sunnier-still,- and so cold should be a little sunnier-still, the. sunnier tomorrow. still, the dwednssd— sunnier tomorrow. still, the likelihood . some - sunnier tomorrow. still, the likelihood some mist on the likelihood of some mist on the seed— likelihood of some mist on the ssesp end— likelihood of some mist on the coast and there— likelihood of some mist on the coast and there will still be likelihood of some mist on the coa�*breeze there will still be likelihood of some mist on the coa�*breeze bringing. still be likelihood of some mist on the coa�*breeze bringing atill be likelihood of some mist on the coa�*breeze bringing a coole likelihood of some mist on the coa�*breeze bringing a cool feel the breeze bringing a cool feel on pne— the breeze bringing a cool feel on ene sess— the breeze bringing a cool feel on the coast. but— the breeze bringing a cool feel on the coast. but it should be a news— on the coast. but it should be a little brighter— on the coast. but it should be a little brighter at— on the coast. but it should be a little brighter at least. and in the little brighter at least. and in ene-weds— little brighter at least. and in the-that's where,- little brighter at least. and in the that's where, again, the west, that's where, again, wedd— the west, that's where, again,| we'll—temperatures we'll see the top temperatures not we'll see the top temperatures nes—pedew - we'll see the top temperatures nes—pedew pup- we'll see the top temperatures not today, but still not as warm as today, but still swenlsedsdds— not as warm as today, but still over-celsius on— not as warm as today, but still over celsius on friday over 20 celsius on friday evening. — over 20 celsius on friday evening. pp— over 20 celsius on friday evening. it stays fine and depend— evening. it stays fine and new pen— evening. it stays fine and bright for the— evening. it stays fine and bright for the most part. again, spend— bright for the most part. again, some cloud will— bright for the most part. again, some cloud will spill back in dend— some cloud will spill back in dend es— some cloud will spill back in dend es we— some cloud will spill back in land as we head— some cloud will spill back in land as we head into the weekends.— land as we head into the weekends. so— land as we head into the weekends. so perhaps again, a bit weekends. so perhaps again, a pie sp— weekends. so perhaps again, a pie of e— weekends. so perhaps again, a pie of e deep— weekends. so perhaps again, a bit of a drab start— weekends. so perhaps again, a bit of a drab start to saturday. nup— bit of a drab start to saturday. nus eeen.— bit of a drab start to saturday. nwp epepn. preppy— bit of a drab start to saturday. but again, pretty confident that speed— but again, pretty confident that speed wdd— but again, pretty confident that cloud will break— but again, pretty confident that

cloud will break up through the morning— cloud will break up through the nsnnpnp puppe— cloud will break up through the morning quite quickly to reveal penenedw— morning quite quickly to reveal penenepwlsdnnw— morning quite quickly to reveal generally sunny day . northern generally a sunny day. northern sssdend— generally a sunny day. northern scotland will— generally a sunny day. northern scotland will be— generally a sunny day. northern scotland will be cloudy on sesdndew— scotland will be cloudy on saturday, even— scotland will be cloudy on saturday, even a bit of drizzle at saturday, even a bit of drizzle ep pines— saturday, even a bit of drizzle at times over— saturday, even a bit of drizzle at times over the _ saturday, even a bit of drizzle at times over the northern psdes. — at times over the northern psdes. nup— at times over the northern isles. but for— at times over the northern isles. but for most, at times over the northern isles. but for most , saturday isles. but for most, saturday wid— isles. but for most, saturday wdd pe— isles. but for most, saturday will be blue— isles. but for most, saturday will be blue skies . fine, dry will be blue skies. fine, dry wdpn— will be blue skies. fine, dry wdpn sunny— will be blue skies. fine, dry with sunny spells still a bit of a with sunny spells still a bit of e pee— with sunny spells still a bit of a breeze around— with sunny spells still a bit of a breeze around some coasts, penpswdenw— a breeze around some coasts, particularly east— a breeze around some coasts, particularly east anglia and send— particularly east anglia and send .— particularly east anglia and send . ss— particularly east anglia and kent , so fresh— particularly east anglia and kent, so fresh on particularly east anglia and kent , so fresh on beach, but kent, so fresh on the beach, but penenedw— kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inland— kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inland temperatures, kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inlowi temperatures, kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inlow 20s1peratures, kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inlow 20s andltures, kent, so fresh on the beach, but generally inlow 20s and feeling high teens, low 20s and feeling prepp— high teens, low 20s and feeling preppy ppeesenp— high teens, low 20s and feeling pretty pleasant. and sunday more of pne— pretty pleasant. and sunday more of we se— pretty pleasant. and sunday more of the same. generally a fine day,— of the same. generally a fine dew. pdenw— of the same. generally a fine dew. ppenw sp— of the same. generally a fine day, plenty of sunshine and warm pndend— day, plenty of sunshine and warm pndend .—

for the whatsapps and stuff like that. well, now the government has launched a legal challenge against the inquiry that it set up. basically saying it's stepping over a line requesting pretty much everything . regret pretty much everything. regret is the word that the government are using. other people say desperate action is a more accurate word . what do you say accurate word. what do you say we will have all the latest on that and i confess it's quite rare . you'll hear me quoting

rare. you'll hear me quoting greek philosopher , but aristotle