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the government. i mean, would you mobile phone? you hand in your mobile phone? he apparently he needs he has two. apparently he needs to hand another phone in. what do you think? and then we're going move swiftly on to the going to move swiftly on to the derby festival. well, we'll be looking at, you know, apparently animal rising will be protesting there. we are going be at there. so we are going to be at that finding out, that festival finding out, getting you the getting you, bringing you the latest news information. and latest news and information. and then they have got a cheek , then they have got a cheek, haven't they? this is this story is seriously interesting. it's a migrant hotel in pimlico , a very migrant hotel in pimlico, a very posh part of london, where the migrants are complaining that they're being treated like animals and they're not happy with the conditions. so they are now protesting outside. i mean, you make and you couldn't make it up. and then, course, we're going to then, of course, we're going to be into holly . holly is be looking into holly. holly is coming . that's right. be looking into holly. holly is coming .that's right. this coming back. that's right. this morning. holly will be on the sofa on monday . that morning. holly will be on the sofa on monday. that is on the way . aslef. you can get in touch way. aslef. you can get in touch all the usual ways. gb views gb news .com or you can tweet me at

gb news. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . your latest news headlines. good afternoon. it's exactly 3:02.— good afternoon. it's exactly 3:02- rm— good afternoon. it's exactly 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom the— 3:02. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom the home secretary is being— newsroom the home secretary is being asked— newsroom the home secretary is being asked ee— newsroom the home secretary is being asked to clarify why a group— being asked to clarify why a group ef— being asked to clarify why a group of asylum seekers were left— group of asylum seekers were left en— group of asylum seekers were left on the— group of asylum seekers were left on the streets of london for two — left on the streets of london for two nights.— left on the streets of london for two nights. in— left on the streets of london for two nights. in a letter to seem— for two nights. in a letter to suella braverman, the leader of westminster— suella braverman, the leader of westminster city _ suella braverman, the leader of westminster city council expressed— westminster city council expressed deep concern that me— expressed deep concern that eeune eo— expressed deep concern that around 40 refugees were placed in the— around 40 refugees were placed tn the borough— around 40 refugees were placed in the borough on— around 40 refugees were placed in the borough on wednesday mett— in the borough on wednesday night without— in the borough on wednesday night without appropriate accommodation . the group accommodation. the group tepettetty— accommodation. the group reportedly refused to enter a tetet— reportedly refused to enter a hotel where _ reportedly refused to enter a hotel where the— reportedly refused to enter a hotel where the home office had ettegetty— hotel where the home office had ettegetty estee— hotel where the home office had allegedly asked them to sleep tout— allegedly asked them to sleep tout pet— allegedly asked them to sleep tout pet oom— allegedly asked them to sleep four per room. around 20 people tave— four per room. around 20 people have teen— four per room. around 20 people have been protesting outside that— have been protesting outside that tetet— have been protesting outside that hotel this— have been protesting outside that hotel this afternoon in a 19 that hotel this afternoon in a te teet— that hotel this afternoon in a te yeet ott— that hotel this afternoon in a 19 year old man— that hotel this afternoon in a 19 year old man has been sentenced— 19 year old man has been sentenced to— 19 year old man has been sentenced to life with a minimum of sentenced to life with a minimum et ete— sentenced to life with a minimum et etx teete— sentenced to life with a minimum et etx yette tn— sentenced to life with a minimum of six years in prison for planning— of six years in prison for planning terror attacks on the pettee— planning terror attacks on the pettee ent— planning terror attacks on the police and military. matthew mtg,— police and military. matthew ttng, e— police and military. matthew

king, a muslim_ police and military. matthew king, a muslim convert from teeex— king, a muslim convert from teeex .— king, a muslim convert from essex , pleaded— king, a muslim convert from essex , pleaded guilty to essex, pleaded guilty to ptetttng— essex, pleaded guilty to ptetttng the— essex, pleaded guilty to plotting the attacks between 202t— plotting the attacks between zozt ent— plotting the attacks between 2021 and 2022. _ plotting the attacks between 2021 and 2022. his plans to ttevet— 2021 and 2022. his plans to ttevet te— 2021 and 2022. his plans to travel to syria— 2021 and 2022. his plans to travel to syria to- 2021 and 2022. his plans to travel to syria to join the ee—eettet — travel to syria to join the so—called islamic state were stepped— so—called islamic state were eteppet when— so—called islamic state were stopped when his mother reported him stopped when his mother reported ttm te— stopped when his mother reported ttm to the— stopped when his mother reported him to the prevent— stopped when his mother reported him to the prevent counter prism program— him to the prevent counter prism program .— him to the prevent counter prism progrorr . torre— him to the prevent counter prism program . boris johnson has program. boris johnson has confirmed— program. boris johnson has confirmed he— program. boris johnson has confirmed he is— program. boris johnson has confirmed he is sending his unredacted_ confirmed he is sending his unredacted whatsapp messages directly— unredacted whatsapp messages ttreetty to — unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the— unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid 19 inquiry-— directly to the covid 19 trrgutry. rt— directly to the covid 19 inquiry. in his letter to its chairwoman,— inquiry. in his letter to its chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote— chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote to— chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote to twe— chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote, i'd like to— chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote, i'd like to do— chairwoman, baroness hallett, he wrote, i'd like to do the same wttt— wrote, i'd like to do the same wttt onw— wrote, i'd like to do the same with any material— wrote, i'd like to do the same with any material that may be on an with any material that may be on or ott— with any material that may be on or ott prone,— with any material that may be on an old phone, which i've prewowetw— an old phone, which i've previously been told i can no torrger— previously been told i can no longer access— previously been told i can no longer access safely. it comes otter— longer access safely. it comes otter tree— longer access safely. it comes after the government argued it etowttrtt— after the government argued it shouldn't have— after the government argued it shouldn't have to— after the government argued it shouldn't have to hand over what it shouldn't have to hand over what tt totte— shouldn't have to hand over what tt eotte o— shouldn't have to hand over what it calls a relevant— shouldn't have to hand over what it calls a relevant material. wtrtetere— it calls a relevant material. ministers are— it calls a relevant material. ministers are preparing for a tegot— ministers are preparing for a tegot totte— ministers are preparing for a legal battle with the inquiry. a prettrrtrrorw— legal battle with the inquiry. a preliminary hearing will be held on preliminary hearing will be held or tweetow— preliminary hearing will be held or tweetow .— preliminary hearing will be held on tuesday . phillip schofield on tuesday. phillip schofield strett— on tuesday. phillip schofield strett sowe— on tuesday. phillip schofield shield says he's— on tuesday. phillip schofield shield says he's lost everything otter— shield says he's lost everything after revelations— shield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair wttt— after revelations of his affair wttt o— after revelations of his affair wttt o younger— after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague, but with a younger male colleague, twt treeto— with a younger male colleague, but insists that— with a younger male colleague, but insists that he— with a younger male colleague, but insists that he didn't groom ppm—

but insists that he didn't groom ttrrr .— but insists that he didn't groom ttrrr . wr— but insists that he didn't groom ttrrr . trr rte— but insists that he didn't groom him. in his first— but insists that he didn't groom him . in his first interview him. in his first interview etrree— him. in his first interview since leaving— him. in his first interview since leaving itv, schofield tott— since leaving itv, schofield tott tre— since leaving itv, schofield told the bbc— since leaving itv, schofield told the bbc he's broken and optomet— told the bbc he's broken and ashamed and— told the bbc he's broken and ashamed and he'll forever be sorry.— ashamed and he'll forever be sorry. wee— ashamed and he'll forever be sorry. we-e pp— ashamed and he'll forever be sorry. he's hit out— ashamed and he'll forever be sorry. he's hit out at criticism,— sorry. he's hit out at criticism, calling it relentless ort— criticism, calling it relentless opt worret— criticism, calling it relentless and warned of— criticism, calling it relentless and warned of its catastrophic etteet— and warned of its catastrophic etteet ort— and warned of its catastrophic effect on his— and warned of its catastrophic effect on his mind, even gweettortrrg— effect on his mind, even questioning if- effect on his mind, even questioning if people want him to we — questioning if people want him to we we— questioning if people want him to die. he suggests that homophobia— to die. he suggests that homophobia could be behind some of homophobia could be behind some ot tre— homophobia could be behind some of the backlash— homophobia could be behind some of the backlash if— homophobia could be behind some of the backlash if it— homophobia could be behind some of the backlash if it was a heterosexual— of the backlash if it was a heterosexual relationship , then heterosexual relationship, then you heterosexual relationship, then wow wow— heterosexual relationship, then you know rt— heterosexual relationship, then you know, it would have been a bit you know, it would have been a ttt ot— you know, it would have been a ttt ot rwtge— you know, it would have been a bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . rt— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . tt rte— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . tt we r— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . rt we a gay— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . if it's a gay relationship, then suddenly it raises eyebrows. it's wrong. it's wrong. people do find each other attractive in in different age groups . i attractive in in different age groups. i mean, it does happen. you know, but it's the mere fact that this is so gigantic. and i appreciate the workplace and, you know, the history . i get you know, the history. i get that. you know, the history. i get that . but you know, the history. i get that. but it's you know, the history. i get that . but it's the fact that that. but it's the fact that it's, you know, it's so massive is predominantly homophobia . is predominantly homophobia. and. itv has confirmed that

holly— and. itv has confirmed that holly willoughby will return to toot— holly willoughby will return to toot twe— holly willoughby will return to host this morning alongside tettow— host this morning alongside fellow presenter josie gibson on montoy— fellow presenter josie gibson on monday .— fellow presenter josie gibson on monday , thew— fellow presenter josie gibson on monday , they dame ellen klaus, monday, they dame ellen klaus, stepper— monday, they dame ellen klaus, stepterr toe— monday, they dame ellen klaus, stephen has been— monday, they dame ellen klaus, stephen has been appointed as oettrrg— stephen has been appointed as oettrrg twe— stephen has been appointed as acting ing chair— stephen has been appointed as acting ing chair of the bbc , the acting ing chair of the bbc, the department— acting ing chair of the bbc, the peportrrrerrt tor— acting ing chair of the bbc, the department for culture, media ort— department for culture, media opt sport— department for culture, media and sport announced she will teet— and sport announced she will teot tre— and sport announced she will lead the bbc— and sport announced she will lead the bbc board for 12 months or wett— lead the bbc board for 12 months or wrrttt o— lead the bbc board for 12 months or wrrttt o ew— lead the bbc board for 12 months or until a new permanent chair toe— or until a new permanent chair toe teen— or until a new permanent chair has been appointed. dame ellen has been appointed. dame ellen toe teen— has been appointed. dame ellen has been o— has been appointed. dame ellen has been a member of the bbc's eowerrtrrg— has been a member of the bbc's eowerrrtrrg potty— has been a member of the bbc's governing body since 2010. it otter— governing body since 2010. it comes after richard sharp reetgrret— comes after richard sharp resigned following a report wttet— resigned following a report which found— resigned following a report which found he breached the governance code— which found he breached the governance code for public oppotrrtrrrerrte— governance code for public appointments .— governance code for public appointments . acas the last four appointments. acas the last four rrerrreret— appointments. acas the last four memerte ot— appointments. acas the last four memerte ot o— appointments. acas the last four members of a 21— appointments. acas the last four members of a 21 person sex abuse rmg— members of a 21 person sex abuse rmg towe— members of a 21 person sex abuse rmg trove teen— members of a 21 person sex abuse ring have been sentenced after temg— ring have been sentenced after temg tomo— ring have been sentenced after being found guilty of child sex ottemee— being found guilty of child sex ottemee .— being found guilty of child sex offences . while— being found guilty of child sex offences . while our west offences. while our west wtttmte— offences. while our west midlands reporterjack offences. while our west midlands reporter jack carson offences. while our west midlands reporterjack carson is midlands reporter jack carson is in wolverhampton— midlands reporter jack carson is in wolverhampton for us. jack, tett— in wolverhampton for us. jack, tett we— in wolverhampton for us. jack, tett we moe— in wolverhampton for us. jack, tell us more about today's eerrterremg— tell us more about today's eerrtemmg .— tell us more about today's eerrterremg. — tell us more about today's sentencing . “43?“ tell us more about today's sentencing . / tell us more about today's sentencing . “in?" tell us more about today's sentencing . “cir?" sentencing. yeah, this was the biggest investigation that the west midlands police have ever

done into child sexual offences. and as you mentioned, the final four members of that 21 person child sex abuse ring have now been sentenced. matthew evans and john griffiths, who were sentenced on counts of rape to a child under 13, have both been sentenced to 17.5 years in prison . they will serve two prison. they will serve two thirds before being eligible for parole. violet griffiths , who parole. violet griffiths, who was sentenced on the count of causing a child to engage in penetrative activity under the age of 13. on three occasions, she's been sentenced to 15 years in prison, and natasha webb, on the charge of sexual offences to a child, has been sentenced today to nine years in prison, serving six before spending the last three years on licence . last three years on licence. jack, thank you. jack carson mere— jack, thank you. jack carson there outside— jack, thank you. jack carson there outside wolverhampton crown— there outside wolverhampton crowm court— there outside wolverhampton crown court for— there outside wolverhampton crown court for us. rail poeeerrgere— crown court for us. rail passengers face continued travel tterwpttorr— passengers face continued travel disruption with— passengers face continued travel disruption with a— passengers face continued travel disruption with a fresh wave of etrttee— disruption with a fresh wave of etrttee totow. — disruption with a fresh wave of strikes today. members of the tort— strikes today. members of the tort unto— strikes today. members of the rmt union across— strikes today. members of the rmt union across england have wottet— rmt union across england have wottet out— rmt union across england have wottet owt m— rmt union across england have walked out in a— rmt union across england have walked out in a long running ttepwte— walked out in a long running ttepwte oer— walked out in a long running dispute overjobs, pay and

conditions. _ dispute overjobs, pay and conditions. general secretary wret— conditions. general secretary wtet lynch— conditions. general secretary mick lynch paid— conditions. general secretary mick lynch paid tribute to rmt members, saying— mick lynch paid tribute to rmt members, saying their determined to keep— members, saying their determined to keep om— members, saying their determined to keep on fighting— members, saying their determined to keep on fighting along . the to keep on fighting along. the tremter— to keep on fighting along. the premier league— to keep on fighting along. the premier league has condemned the mute— premier league has condemned the otwee ttreetet— premier league has condemned the abuse directed at— premier league has condemned the abuse directed at british reeeet— abuse directed at british referee anthony taylor after tootoge— referee anthony taylor after footage emerged of angry fans teettmg— footage emerged of angry fans teettmg mm— footage emerged of angry fans heckling him at— footage emerged of angry fans heckling him at budapest's otrport— heckling him at budapest's otrport .— heckling him at budapest's otrport . wett— heckling him at budapest's airport . matt taylor and his airport. matt taylor and his tomttw— airport. matt taylor and his tomttw om— airport. matt taylor and his family can be— airport. matt taylor and his family can be seen trying to evade— family can be seen trying to ewote o— family can be seen trying to evade a mob— family can be seen trying to evade a mob who was shouting at mm— evade a mob who was shouting at mm oe— evade a mob who was shouting at mm as me— evade a mob who was shouting at him as he travelled— evade a mob who was shouting at him as he travelled home after wetmeetow— him as he travelled home after wednesday night's europa league tmot— wednesday night's europa league final between— wednesday night's europa league final between roma and sevilla in final between roma and sevilla to me— final between roma and sevilla in the hungarian— final between roma and sevilla in the hungarian capital. a tremter— in the hungarian capital. a premier league— in the hungarian capital. a premier league spokesman says the mute— premier league spokesman says the abuse suffered by taylor and his the abuse suffered by taylor and me tomttw— the abuse suffered by taylor and me tomttw te— the abuse suffered by taylor and his family is both— the abuse suffered by taylor and his family is both shocking and oppottmg— his family is both shocking and oppottmg .— his family is both shocking and oppottmg . twe— his family is both shocking and appalling . this is gb news. appalling. this is gb news. wett— appalling. this is gb news. we-tt trmg— appalling. this is gb news. we'll bring you— appalling. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it toppers.— we'll bring you more as it moppem. wow,— we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to— happens. now, though, it's back to wom— happens. now, though, it's back over to nana akua— happens. now, though, it's back over to nana akua . over to nana akua. wot— over to nana akua. wot o— over to nana akua. had a good- over to nana akua. had a good evening. e: had a good evening. good momtrg—

had a good evening. good morning. good— had a good evening. good morning. good afternoon. evening when are we? this is gb news on tv, online and digital radio. i'm nana akua. we start with some breaking news and it comes. it concerns us stories that i mentioned the of the mentioned at the top of the show. asylum seekers have re—entered a central london hotel speak to hotel to speak to a representative from the home office. now this comes after the home secretary braverman home secretary suella braverman was asked to urgently clarify the situation by westminster city council . the migrants had city council. the migrants had slept on the street last night, claiming that the rooms aren't nice enough. metropolitan police officers and vehicles that had been present at the scene have now left. and we'll have some more on this story later on in the hour. now, though, to a dramatic development in the row over boris johnson's whatsapp messages and notebooks. the former prime minister has blown apart the government's efforts to challenge the covid 19 inquiry by launching a judicial review and boris johnson has written to the chair of the inquiry, baroness hallett , and inquiry, baroness hallett, and told her that he will hand over all his unredacted material

directly to her. now the cabinet office have been arguing that much of the material should actually remain confidential because it was unambiguously irrelevant . and the former irrelevant. and the former justice secretary, lord charlie faulkner, has backed boris johnson's decision to entitled to take the view that if the inquiry wants to see it, they should see it. and it's not that twe— should see it. and it's not that me got— should see it. and it's not that me got rrotmmg— should see it. and it's not that i've got nothing to— : c and it's not that i've got nothing to hide. he's eowtmg— i've got nothing to hide. he's eowmg, m— i've got nothing to hide. he's saying, in effect,— i've got nothing to hide. he's saying, in effect, they need two— saying, in effect, they need two to— saying, in effect, they need this to reach— saying, in effect, they need this to reach a— saying, in effect, they need this to reach a conclusion. it's mot— this to reach a conclusion. it's not wear— this to reach a conclusion. it's not eteor to— this to reach a conclusion. it's not clear to me— this to reach a conclusion. it's not clear to me whether or not tree— not clear to me whether or not the motertot— not clear to me whether or not the material will— not clear to me whether or not the material will in fact get to the material will in fact get to the moth— the material will in fact get to me mgwtw .— the material will in fact get to the inquiry , because what boris the inquiry, because what boris oppeore— the inquiry, because what boris appears to— the inquiry, because what boris appears to te— the inquiry, because what boris appears to be saying is i want to get— appears to be saying is i want to get my— appears to be saying is i want to get my notebooks back from the comet— to get my notebooks back from the cabinet office— to get my notebooks back from the cabinet office so i can then gwe— the cabinet office so i can then gwe rt— the cabinet office so i can then gwe tt to— the cabinet office so i can then gtwe tt to tree— the cabinet office so i can then give it to the inquiry. so i tort-t— give it to the inquiry. so i tom-t mow— give it to the inquiry. so i don't know whether or not the carpet— don't know whether or not the cabinet office _ don't know whether or not the cabinet office is— don't know whether or not the cabinet office is going to gree — cabinet office is going to agree. david— cabinet office is going to agree. david is- cabinet office is going to agree. david is very wise. david mottox— agree. david is very wise. david wottox to— agree. david is very wise. david wottox to my— agree. david is very wise. david maddox to my left— agree. david is very wise. david maddox to my left is very wise wren— maddox to my left is very wise were re— maddox to my left is very wise when he sowe— maddox to my left is very wise when he says this— maddox to my left is very wise when he says this is all about optoe— when he says this is all about optics, whether— when he says this is all about optics, whether it's about any sort— optics, whether it's about any sort ot— optics, whether it's about any sort of reality.— optics, whether it's about any sort of reality. i've got no tteo— sort of reality. i've got no tteo mt— sort of reality. i've got no idea and i'm— sort of reality. i've got no idea and i'm not clear in my own mmt— idea and i'm not clear in my own mmt oe— idea and i'm not clear in my own met as to— idea and i'm not clear in my own mind as to where— idea and i'm not clear in my own mind as to where the phone which has me— mind as to where the phone which has the whatsapp— mind as to where the phone which has the whatsapp messages, which porte— has the whatsapp messages, which torts-rot— has the whatsapp messages, which torts-root wet— has the whatsapp messages, which boris not yet handed over,

boris has not yet handed over, is boris has not yet handed over, to .— boris has not yet handed over, to . amt— boris has not yet handed over, to . mt eo— boris has not yet handed over, to . art to t-m— boris has not yet handed over, is . and so i'm joined now by gb is. and so i'm joined now by gb wewe— is. and so i'm joined now by gb news political— is. and so i'm joined now by gb news political reporter olivia wttew— news political reporter olivia trttew ettwo— news political reporter olivia trttew ottwo .— news political reporter olivia utley olivia , the plot thickens. utley olivia, the plot thickens. so utley olivia, the plot thickens. so tott— utley olivia, the plot thickens. so tttt to — utley olivia, the plot thickens. so tttt to me— utley olivia, the plot thickens. so talk to me about— utley olivia, the plot thickens. so talk to me about this- utley olivia, the plot thickens. so talk to me about this just briefly. what's happening? because it feels a bit confusing. it is a little bit confusing. essentially what's happened— confusing. essentially what's happened te— f g essentially what's happened is johnson has happened is boris johnson has tott— happened is boris johnson has eott ott— happened is boris johnson has said all along— happened is boris johnson has said all along that he is perteettw— said all along that he is perfectly happy for his wmoteoppe— perfectly happy for his whatsapps notebooks, etc. perfectly happy for his- whatsapps - notebooks, etc. to whatsapps and notebooks, etc. to be whatsapps and notebooks, etc. to te reteoeet— whatsapps and notebooks, etc. to te reteoeet m— whatsapps and notebooks, etc. to be released in unredacted form to me— be released in unredacted form to the-trgwtrw- be released in unredacted form to the inquiry. but they to the covid inquiry. but they towe— to the covid inquiry. but they have to— to the covid inquiry. but they have to go— to the covid inquiry. but they have to go through the cabinet emce— have to go through the cabinet etttee. rte— have to go through the cabinet office. it's the _ have to go through the cabinet office. it's the cabinet office who-e— office. it's the cabinet office wto-e tre— office. it's the cabinet office who's the who's— office. it's the cabinet office who's the who's responsible for oetwottw— who's the who's responsible for actually handing— who's the who's responsible for actually handing over all that motertot— actually handing over all that material and— actually handing over all that material and cabinet office material and the cabinet office has material and the cabinet office toe-trot— material and the cabinet office toe-mot rt— material and the cabinet office has .that it doesn't- material and the cabinet office has that it doesn't want to has said that it doesn't want to tort— has said that it doesn't want to port oer— has said that it doesn't want to port ott— has said that it doesn't want to hand over all of— has said that it doesn't want to hand over all of that unredacted motertot—ore- material. now, there are a eowpte— material. now, there are a eowpte ot— material. now, there are a couple of reasons why it could material. now, there are a cotbeing reasons why it could material. now, there are a cotbeing so asons why it could material. now, there are a cotbeing so reluctant! it could material. now, there are a cotbeing so reluctant aboutild material. now, there are a cotbeing so reluctant about this be being so reluctant about this .-ttem— be being so reluctant about this .-ttem wmet— be being so reluctant about this .-them, which is- be being so reluctant about this . them, which is the sort . one of them, which is the sort of . one of them, which is the sort ot—te- . one of them, which is the sort ot—te ttoti of more exciting option, is that mmtetere— of more exciting option, is that ministers have— of more exciting option, is that ministers have something to tree,— ministers have something to tree, trot— ministers have something to hide, that there's something in porte— hide, that there's something in boris -whatsapp- boris johnson's whatsapp messages is messages, which potentially is emtorroeemg— messages, which potentially is embarrassing or— messages, which potentially is embarrassing or damaging to a etttmg— embarrassing or damaging to a sitting government minister. the otter— sitting government minister. the other optoe— sitting government minister. the other opttorr .— sitting government minister. the other option , which is what the other option, which is what the government— other option, which is what the government claims and may well be age,— government claims and may well be pug, te— government claims and may well be true, is that— government claims and may well be true, is that they simply tom-t— be true, is that they simply tom-t wort— be true, is that they simply don't want a _ be true, is that they simply don't want a precedent to be set. — don't want a precedent to be set. mew-re— don't want a precedent to be set. they're worried that otwowew— set. they're worried that

obviously-isn't- set. they're worried that obviously isn't the only obviously this isn't the only bit obviously this isn't the only ttt ot— obviously this isn't the only bit of information that the cowo— bit of information that the covrp mgwtrw— bit of information that the covid inquiry will be looking at. covid inquiry will be looking ot—mgwtw- at. the covid inquiry will property— at. the covid inquiry will property-o- at. the covid inquiry will- protottw-o-weore probably last quite a few years mt— probably last quite a few years mt ttere-tt— probably last quite a few years and there'll be— probably last quite a few years and there'll be plenty of information— and there'll be plenty of information baroness information that baroness tottett— information that baronessi hallett_ now, hallett wants to see. now, etowtt — hallett wants to see. now, etowtt tte — hallett wants to see. now, should the government have to tort— should the government have to tort-sorte— should the government have to hand-sortslprivatel hand over all sorts of private correspondence— hand over all sorts of private correspondence between ministers and correspondence between ministers opt-own— correspondence between ministers and-civil servants- correspondence between ministers and-civil servants ?- correspondence between ministers and civil servants ? the and senior civil servants? the government— and senior civil servants? the government says— and senior civil servants? the government says no, it thinks trot— government says no, it thinks that rt— government says no, it thinks that it should— government says no, it thinks that it should not— government says no, it thinks that it should not have to hand orwtmmg. — that it should not have to hand over anything. that is what it cotte— over anything. that is what it calls unambiguously irrelevant and calls unambiguously irrelevant mtlwomte— calls unambiguously irrelevant mtlwomteto— calls unambiguously irrelevant and wants to take the case to and it wants to take the case to twttetot— and it wants to take the case to judicial review— and it wants to take the case to judicial review to— and it wants to take the case to judicial review to fight for trot— judicial review to fight for that principle— judicial review to fight for that principle .— judicial review to fight for that principle . well, now, that principle. well, now, otwtowetw— that principle. well, now, obviously, if— that principle. well, now, obviously, if boris johnson is gtwmg— obviously, if boris johnson is gtwmg ott— obviously, if boris johnson is gtwmg ott ot— obviously, if boris johnson is giving all of this information to tororreee— giving all of this information to baroness hallett anyway, then the twttetot— to baroness hallett anyway, then the judicial review— to baroness hallett anyway, then the judicial review case becomes rotmer— the judicial review case becomes rather pointless— the judicial review case becomes rather pointless because she has the information _ rather pointless because she has the information anyway. but it toes— the information anyway. but it toee eomt— the information anyway. but it does sound though the does sound as though the government— does sound as though the government might continue regortteee— government might continue regardless and— government might continue regardless and go ahead with the twttetot— regardless and go ahead with the twttetot-etmpw— regardless and go ahead with the judicial simply because, judicial review simply because, as judicial review simply because, oe-tmew— judicial review simply because, oe-ttew wort— judicial review simply because, as-they want that- as i say, they want that prmetpte — as i say, they want that prmetpte to— as i say, they want that principle to be to be fixed. the mere— principle to be to be fixed. the te— principle to be to be fixed. the te rt— principle to be to be fixed. the issue is it doesn't— principle to be to be fixed. the issue is it doesn't sound very new— issue is it doesn't sound very tttetw ot— issue is it doesn't sound very likely at ott— issue is it doesn't sound very likely at all that— issue is it doesn't sound very likely at all that the government will win this case at twttetot— government will win this case at judicial review,— government will win this case at judicial review,-top- judicial review, plenty of top towwere— judicial review, plenty of top towwere towe— judicial review, plenty of top lawyers have already said that mew— lawyers have already said that they met— lawyers have already said that they think it's— lawyers have already said that they think it's very unlikely teeowee— they think it's very unlikely because the— they think it's very unlikely because the government agreed to the because the government agreed to tree—toromeee-

the framework that baroness wottett— the framework that baroness tottett toe— the framework that baroness hallett has been given, and she eeeerrttottw— hallett has been given, and she essentially has— hallett has been given, and she essentially has a— hallett has been given, and she essentially has a very, very wtte— essentially has a very, very wtte remtt— essentially has a very, very wide remit and— essentially has a very, very wide remit and can look at orwtmmg— wide remit and can look at orwtmmg ete— wide remit and can look at anything she likes. and the government— anything she likes. and the government agreed to that in owomet-ot— government agreed to that in advance.-not very- government agreed to that in advance. not very clear advance. so it's not very clear at advance. so it's not very clear otittot— advance. so it's not very clear at.that-would- advance. so it's not very clear at that would have at all that they would have a .ttew— at all that they would have a case.-they press- at all that they would have a case. they press ahead case. will they press ahead with the case. will they press ahead with tree-rewew— case. will they press ahead with the-review now- case. will they press ahead with the review now that the judicial review now that rte— the judicial review now that to pretty— the judicial review now that it's pretty clear— the judicial review now that it's pretty clear they don't towe— it's pretty clear they don't have o— it's pretty clear they don't have a case— it's pretty clear they don't have a case and pointless have a case and it's pointless powwow— have a case and it's pointless. omwwow—totmorr anyway, now that boris johnson toe— anyway, now that boris johnson has meteo— anyway, now that boris johnson has handed over— anyway, now that boris johnson has handed over his documents, we-mwe— has handed over his documents, we-towe to— has handed over his documents, we - have to - and - has handed over his documents, we have to and see. we will have to wait and see. t hey— we will have to wait and see. mew-te— we will have to wait and see. they-be wasting- we will have to wait and see. they-be wasting our. we will have to wait and see. . they-be wasting our time they seem to be wasting our time over what about the over this. and what about the there a phone they there was a phone that they didn't the phone before didn't have. so the phone before now one they've one for now the one they've got one for one but the first year of one year, but the first year of covid, one year, but the first year of covm, they one year, but the first year of covid, they didn't have that phone. what's happening with phone. so what's happening with that? so boris johnson that? yes so boris johnson tomtet— that? yes so boris johnson tented-ot- that? yes so boris johnson handed -of his- handed over all of his unredacted_ handed over all of his- unredacted-from may unredacted messages from may zom— unredacted messages from may zeta—eut- unredacted messages from may 20th, but obviously 20th, 21 onwards. but obviously trot-e— 20th, 21 onwards. but obviously mote—ott- that's not the bit we're all porttewtortw— that's not the bit we're all particularly interested in eeemg— particularly interested ini eeemg—tor particularly interested in- seeing_far more seeing the earlier bits far more trrtereettmg— seeing the earlier bits far more interesting,-in_ seeing the earlier bits far more interesting, in april 2021, interesting, but in april 2021, porte— interesting, but in april 2021, boris—thatl interesting, but in april 2021,i torts—mot te boris johnson was told that he come— boris johnson was told that he eowtt newer— boris johnson was told that he could never switch on that phone ogom. — could never switch on that phone ogom. rt— could never switch on that phone ogom. tt woe— could never switch on that phone again. it was switched off eeewretw— securely by the security eerwee. —tei securely by the security- service. _he couldn't service. he was told he couldn't ewttet— service. he was told he couldn't ewttetlom— service. he was told he couldn't switch .on because— service. he was told he couldn't switch on because his data switch it on because his data tot— switch it on because his data. mot—rt had been compromised. and it turned— had been compromised. and it turret-trot— had been compromised. and it turned-that his— had been compromised. and it turned that his phone number turned out that his phone number had turned out that his phone number tot teen— turned out that his phone number tot teem ort— turned out that his phone number had been on internet for 15 had been on the internet for 15 wee— had been on the internet for 15 weereltte— had been on the internet for 15 years..the security- had been on the internet for 15 years. the security services years. so the security services tott— years. so the security services tott mm — years. so the security services tott mm te— years. so the security services told him he could— years. so the security services told him he could never use that phone— told him he could never use that prone—row- phone again. he has now asked the eeewrttw—

phone again. he has now asked the security services they the security services if they eon-o— the security services if they eon-o wow— the security services if they eon-o wow to- the security services if they can - a way to .the i the security services if they- can - a way to .the phone can find a way to turn the phone on can find a way to turn the phone om—ttot— can find a way to turn the phone ore—mot te- can find a way to turn the phone on_that he can- can find a way to turn the phone on_that he can passi on securely so that he can pass trot— on securely so that he can pass over that information to the moth— over that information to the inquiry without— over that information to the inquiry without that security temg— inquiry without that security being—sounds. inquiry without that security. being—sounds quite being breached. it sounds quite new— being breached. it sounds quite tttetw-tte— being breached. it sounds quite likely the security service likely that the security service wit— likely that the security service wttt tmt— likely that the security service wttt tmt o— likely that the security service will find a way— likely that the security service will find a way to— likely that the security service will find a way to do that. so wtttmotetw— will find a way to do that. so ultimately, it— will find a way to do that. so ultimately, it sounds though ultimately, it sounds as though the ultimately, it sounds as though tree-wit— ultimately, it sounds as though the-will have- ultimately, it sounds as though the-will have all- ultimately, it sounds as though the will have all the the inquiry will have all the information— the inquiry will have all the information that it wants for tree—to- information that it wants for tree—to tomo- information that it wants for the—to hand . i information that it wants for- the_to hand . won't the time being to hand. won't gotte— the time being to hand. won't gotte o— the time being to hand. won't gotte o tow— the time being to hand. won't gotte o tew ot— the time being to hand. won't quite a few of the— the time being to hand. won't quite a few of the other ministers potentially be quite worried of that worried that some of that information compromise information could compromise them potentially. so what what them potentially. so what what the government's— so what what the government's lawyer, james totte— the government's lawyer, james totte .— the government's lawyer, james totte , toe— the government's lawyer, james eadie , has been— the government's lawyer, james eadie , has been saying, one of eadie, has been saying, one of me— eadie, has been saying, one of the oe— eadie, has been saying, one of the ot— eadie, has been saying, one of the one of the— eadie, has been saying, one of the one of the points that they wont— the one of the points that they worrt to — the one of the points that they worrt to fight— the one of the points that they want to fight a— the one of the points that they want to fight a judicial review is want to fight a judicial review te trot— want to fight a judicial review te ttot o— want to fight a judicial review is that a danger— want to fight a judicial review is that a danger of the inquiry mowmg— is that a danger of the inquiry having access— is that a danger of the inquiry having access to _ is that a danger of the inquiry having access to all government mmtetere— having access to all government ministers correspondence is that mmtetere— ministers correspondence is that ministers encouraged to have ministers are encouraged to have rotwet— ministers are encouraged to have robust conversations , be free robust conversations, be free ort— robust conversations, be free orrt tromt— robust conversations, be free and frank with— robust conversations, be free and frank with each other behind etoeet— and frank with each other behind etoeet tooe— and frank with each other behind closed doors. but— and frank with each other behind closed doors. but once they've tot— closed doors. but once they've tot ttoee— closed doors. but once they've had those conversations and come to o— had those conversations and come to o ome— had those conversations and come to o to— had those conversations and come to o to o— had those conversations and come to a come to a decision on any gtwem— to a come to a decision on any gwerr reere— to a come to a decision on any given issue, then— to a come to a decision on any given issue, then they present a mtttet— given issue, then they present a mtttet toee— given issue, then they present a unified face to— given issue, then they present a unified face to the— given issue, then they present a unified face to the public. but if unified face to the public. but tt mew— unified face to the public. but tt ttew ore— unified face to the public. but if they are worried that later on if they are worried that later or metr— if they are worried that later on their whatsapp messages might be rewewet— on their whatsapp messages might

be rewewet tw— on their whatsapp messages might be reviewed by an— on their whatsapp messages might be reviewed by an inquiry and potemttottw— be reviewed by an inquiry and poterrttottw pot— be reviewed by an inquiry and potentially put into the public tomorro— potentially put into the public domain, then— potentially put into the public domain, then they might feel more reluctant— domain, then they might feel more reluctant to have those eort— more reluctant to have those eort ot— more reluctant to have those eort ot tree— more reluctant to have those sort of free and— more reluctant to have those sort of free and frank conversations which we expect ort— conversations which we expect orrt wort— conversations which we expect orrt worrt or— conversations which we expect and want our government mmtetere— and want our government ministers—so and want our government- ministers_so that ministers to be having so that is ministers to be having so that te o— ministers to be having so that te o poterrttot— ministers to be having so that is a potential why ministers mtgtt—otowtl is a potential why ministers might—about of might feel worried about it. of course,-possible- might feel worried about it. of course, possible that course, it's also possible that mmtetere— course, it's also possible that ministers are— course, it's also possible that ministers are worried that mere-e— ministers are worried that there's something embarrassing ministers are worried that thtthereiomething embarrassing ministers are worried that thtthereiome'they embarrassing ministers are worried that thtthereiome'they embawant ng ministers are worried that thtt public ne'they embawant ng ministers are worried that thtt public to they embawant ng ministers are worried that thtt public to see, embawant ng ministers are worried that thtt public to see, althoughit ng ministers are worried that thtt public to see, although asg the public to see, although as the public to see, although as the potte— the public to see, although as the public inquiry is going to go or— the public inquiry is going to go or tor— the public inquiry is going to go on for such— the public inquiry is going to go on for such a— the public inquiry is going to go on for such a long time, it wowtt— go on for such a long time, it wowtt te— go on for such a long time, it would be quite— go on for such a long time, it would be quite it— go on for such a long time, it would be quite it would be a bit premotwre— would be quite it would be a bit premotwre tor— would be quite it would be a bit premature for them to be for them — premature for them to be for them to— premature for them to be for them to te— premature for them to be for them to be worrying about that, gtwem— them to be worrying about that, gtwem-ttere— given that if there is any comme— given that if there is any eomte ot— given that if there is any chance of this- given that if there is any chance of this material getting two— chance of this material getting mto tre— chance of this material getting into the public— chance of this material getting into the public domain, it won't be tor— into the public domain, it won't be tor gotte— into the public domain, it won't be tor gwtte o— into the public domain, it won't be for quite a few— into the public domain, it won't be for quite a few years time. out— be for quite a few years time. tot apt,— be for quite a few years time. tot app, .— be for quite a few years time. but still, i mean,— be for quite a few years time. but still, i mean, that- be for quite a few years time. but still, i mean, that that. but still, i mean, that that smacks of really allowing smacks to me of really allowing people start pushing things people to start pushing things under carpet and of under the carpet and sort of hiding things who would hiding things because who would be do they not have be a minister? do they not have some element of privacy? so a private should be private phone surely should be a private phone surely should be a private phone? well, that's what the government— private phone? well, that's what the government is— , well, that's what the government is going to orgwe— the government is going to oge me— the government is going to argue. the problem is that the government— argue. the problem is that the government also— argue. the problem is that the government also agreed to the terme— government also agreed to the termeltte— government also agreed to the terms-the-and- government also agreed to the terms-the - and the l terms of the review and the rewew-ttot— terms of the review and the review-that the - terms of the review and the review that the framework review said that the framework trot— review said that the framework ttot woe— review said that the framework that was agreed— review said that the framework that was agreed between mmtetere— that was agreed between- ministers—hallett

ministers and baroness hallett trot— ministers and baroness hallett was that-would— ministers and baroness hallett was that would be allowed to was that she would be allowed to access everything.— was that she would be allowed to access everything. raises a access everything. it raises a big— access everything. it raises a ttg goeettorr— access everything. it raises a big question as— access everything. it raises a big question as well over whether— big question as well over whether government ministers etowtt—eortl whether government ministersi should—sort of should be having these sort of eoewot—tw- casual conversations by wmoteapp,— casual conversations by whatsapp, by whatsapp, government, by wmoteapp— whatsapp, government, by wmoteapp-got- whatsapp, government, by whatsapp got ministers whatsapp has got ministers in trowtte— whatsapp has got ministers in trouble-should- whatsapp has got ministers in trouble should they not trouble before. should they not be gomg— trouble before. should they not be gomg trough— trouble before. should they not be going through proper secure communication— be going through proper secure communication-if- be going through proper secure communication if they communication channels if they wont— communication channels if they worrt to— communication channels if they worrt to te— communication channels if they want to be having— communication channels if they want to be having these conversations? so perhaps mew-re— conversations? so perhaps ttew-re—twmgl conversations? so perhaps they're _ dying the they're just simply dying by the ewort— they're just simply dying by the ewort-ttew-we— they're just simply dying by the sword .they've - by - they're just simply dying by the sword they've by in sword that they've lived by in terme— sword that they've lived by in terms government, by whatsapp sword that they've lived by in teroe , government, by whatsapp sword that they've lived by in teroe , iment, by whatsapp sword that they've lived by in teroe , “e�*s/"e by whatsapp sword that they've lived by in teroe , vhatsapp sword that they've lived by in teroe , ;app . olivia utley thank you very much thank you so much. right. much. thank you so much. right. i speak with former i can now speak with former labour adviser paul labour special adviser paul richards. thank you very richards. paul, thank you very much joining me. now richards. paul, thank you very much joining me . now talk to much for joining me. now talk to me about this then. the government's legal showdown is this. i mean, we've got so much going on. surely this is we need to kind of move on. they need to put less focus on this and sort of start focusing on us right now. i mean, this feels a bit westminster bubbly or am i wrong? well, 169 people died of cowo— wrong? well, 169 people died of covid yesterday— wrong? well, 169 people died of covid yesterday and— 3“ well, 169 people died of covid yesterday and 225,000 tomtttee— covid yesterday and 225,000 families have— covid yesterday and 225,000 families have been bereaved teeowee— families have been bereaved teeowee ot— families have been bereaved because of covid overall just in the umtet— because of covid overall just in the united kingdom and the prime marga,— the united kingdom and the prime wmteter wtem— the united kingdom and the prime minister, when it— the united kingdom and the prime minister, when it was boris

totmeorr— minister, when it was boris johnson promised an inquiry to gtwe— johnson promised an inquiry to gtwe peopte— johnson promised an inquiry to gtwe peopte me— johnson promised an inquiry to give people the answers, they teeewe— give people the answers, they teeerwe . — give people the answers, they teeerwe . so— give people the answers, they deserve . so it's— give people the answers, they deserve . e oily deserve. so it's absolutely right that we do have this big open public inquiry. heather hallett is the right person to be doing it. she's a very senior judge— be doing it. she's a very senior totge ort— be doing it. she's a very senior totge opt tre— r:r:::r g e she's a very senior judge and the government itself set judge and the government itself eet rt— judge and the government itself eet tt op,— judge and the government itself eet tt .p, oe— judge and the government itself eet tt up, oe vou— judge and the government itself set it up, as you said. so what on set it up, as you said. so what or eortt— set it up, as you said. so what on earth are they doing now? trying to stymie it and to trying to stymieyit and to block trying to stymie it and to block it trying to stymie it and to block tt ort— trying to stymie it and to block tt orrt to— trying to stymie it and to block it and to take— trying to stymie it and to block it and to take it— trying to stymie it and to block it and to take it to— trying to stymie it and to block it and to take it to law, to mock— it and to take it to law, to block having— it and to take it to law, to block having access to some of tie— block having access to some of this information— block having access to some of this information . _ block having access to some of this information . 'r: e this information. and it's not up to— this information. and it's not up to ministers to decide what is. and isn't relevant for the motto— is. and isn't relevant for the mgotw .— is. and isn't relevant for the mgotw . rte— is. and isn't relevant for the mgotw . me up— is. and isn't relevant for the inquiry . it's up to- and isn't relevant for the inquiry. it's up to the and isn't relevant for the inquiry . it's up to the person inquiry. it's up to the person trot— inquiry. it's up to the person ttot mew— inquiry. it's up to the person that they themselves have oppomtet— that they themselves have oppotmtet to— that they themselves have appointed to do that job. so yeah— appointed to do that job. so yeah rt— appointed to do that job. so yeah, it doesn't— appointed to do that job. so yeah, it doesn't matter as much as tomorrow's fa— yeah, it doesn't matter as much as tomorrow's fa cup final or not— as tomorrow's fa cup final or root temg— as tomorrow's fa cup final or not being able— as tomorrow's fa cup final or not being able to— as tomorrow's fa cup final or not being able to get home from work— not being able to get home from work totow— not being able to get home from work today because of the train etrttee— work today because of the train etrttee ort— work today because of the train strikes and all— work today because of the train strikes and all other things strikes and all the other things trot— strikes and all the other things ttot ore— strikes and all the other things ttot om— strikes and all the other things that are on our— strikes and all the other things that are on our minds. but owerott— that are on our minds. but overall,.really- that are on our minds. but overall, really does matter overall, it really does matter teeowee— overall, it really does matter because there _ overall, it really does matter because there are families that teet— because there are families that met—amt- because there are families thati need _and what need those answers. and what tmt— need those answers. and what kind are really kind of things are they really looking for in this and what what information would make a lot of difference to the way they covid? we know that they handle covid? we know that they handle covid? we know that they of they messed up loads of governments, messed it

governments, messed up. it wasn't time for anyone . wasn't an easy time for anyone. are at risk of sort of are we not at risk of sort of taking something and kind of placing it in a different context? more about context? now we know more about the virus because that's i mean, i've got old stuff that i've said that obviously then said online that obviously then i different so said online that obviously then i was different so said online that obviously then i was saying�*it so said online that obviously then i was saying that so said online that obviously then i was saying that now so said online that obviously then i was saying that now i so said online that obviously then i was saying that now i wouldn't say i said then. so are we say what i said then. so are we sort information that sort of getting information that will up out of context will end up out of context anyway? well, i think given the very legal approach that very robust legal approach that the inquiry will take, they will sift evidence on its merit. they're not going to be, dare i say,— they're not going to be, dare i eow twe— they're not going to be, dare i say, like journalists going through— say, like journalists going through p,— say, like journalists going through it, looking for a teottme— through it, looking for a teottme .— through it, looking for a headline . they are going to be headline. they are going to be tootmg— headline. they are going to be tootmg tor— headline. they are going to be looking for the— headline. they are going to be looking for the truth and it's going— looking for the truth and it's going-a— looking for the truth and it's gomg-o very- looking for the truth and it's going a very long, drawn going to be a very long, drawn out proee— going to be a very long, drawn out proee .— going to be a very long, drawn out process , as— going to be a very long, drawn out process , as your reporter out process, as your reporter. was saying. and of course, it's oteo— was saying. and of course, it's oteo gomg— was saying. and of course, it's oteo gomg to— was saying. and of course, it's also going to be— was saying. and of course, it's also going to be a— was saying. and of course, it's also going to be a very, very big— also going to be a very, very ttg report— also going to be a very, very big report when— also going to be a very, very big report when it finally oppeore. — big report when it finally oppeore. tot— big report when it finally appears. but it will have the trott— appears. but it will have the truth-mote- appears. but it will have the truth that's what truth in it. and that's what peopte— truth in it. and that's what people demand. now, it may people will demand. now, it may be people will demand. now, it may toe-mote— people will demand. now, it may be that's embarrassing for be that that's embarrassing for mmtetere. —eo| ministers. well, you know, so wtote — ministers. well, you know, so wtote -ttte— ministers. well, you know, so what? _this is-ofl ministers. well, you know, so. what? _this is-of gold what? well, this is sort of gold dust for the labour party right now, isn't it? although they were the policy engine were part of the policy engine anyway. policy wasn't drafted anyway. so policy wasn't drafted without their say so without it. part of their say so

the must be rubbing the labour party must be rubbing their hands with glee with this going on. well, given the ewtteet— going on. well, given the subject matter— grit g lift" well, given the subject matter and given its seriousness, i— subject matter and given its seriousness, i don't think mere-e— seriousness, i don't think mere-e gree— seriousness, i don't think there's glee. but i do think mere— there's glee. but i do think there te— there's glee. but i do think there te o— there's glee. but i do think there is a sense— there's glee. but i do think there is a sense that we've got to-to— there is a sense that we've got to-to tre— there is a sense that we've got to .to the bottom - there is a sense that we've got to to the bottom of this to get to the bottom of this teeowee wow— to get to the bottom of this because, you know, for example, eat because, you know, for example, eot-tetp — because, you know, for example, eot-tetp-woe- because, you know, for example, eot-tetp-woe ore- because, you know, for example, eat-help-was one of. eat out to help out was one of tree— eat out to help out was one of the-government— eat out to help out was one of the government initiatives. the big government initiatives. me— the big government initiatives. the turret— the big government initiatives. the current minister was the big government initiatives. the person: minister was the big government initiatives. the person behind minister was the big government initiatives. the person behind it.�*iister was the big government initiatives. the person behind it.�*iisteithere the person behind it. and there is some suspicion— the person behind it. and there is some suspicion that that oetwottw— is some suspicion that that actually caused— is some suspicion that that actually caused covid actually caused the covid to epreot. — actually caused the covid to epreot. _ng- actually caused the covid to spread. _will be. actually caused the covid to. spread.-will be some spread. and there will be some of spread. and there will be some ot-tereowet— spread. and there will be some of bereaved families of those bereaved families i tottet— of those bereaved families i talked _earlier- of those bereaved families i talked earlier who might talked about earlier who might towe— talked about earlier who might toweltowet— talked about earlier who might havelloved one— talked about earlier who might have loved one still them have a loved one still with them if have a loved one still with them ttltotrtt— have a loved one still with them iflhadn't been— have a loved one still with them iflhadn't been for— have a loved one still with them if hadn't been for that if it hadn't been for that porttewtor— if it hadn't been for that particular piece of policy. so trot-e— particular piece of policy. so mote-met- particular piece of policy. so that's-needlseel particular piece of policy. sol that's-needlsee the that's why we need to see the teetetorr — that's why we need to see the decision making— that's why we need to see the decision making behind it, who eort— decision making behind it, who eott-wtoe— decision making behind it, who said-who? yes,- decision making behind it, who said-who? yes, it- decision making behind it, who said who? yes, it might said what to who? yes, it might be-embarrassing- said what to who? yes, it might be embarrassing and as you be a bit embarrassing and as you say,— be a bit embarrassing and as you eow wro— be a bit embarrassing and as you eow wto ot— be a bit embarrassing and as you eow wto ot we— be a bit embarrassing and as you say, who of us wants our wmoteapp— say, who of us wants our wmoteapp-ml say, who of us wants our. whatsapp-in the say, who of us wants our- whatsapp-in the public whatsapp messages in the public tomom— whatsapp messages in the public tomom otter— whatsapp messages in the public domain after-said- whatsapp messages in the public domain after said them? domain after we've said them? out— domain after we've said them? tot-to— domain after we've said them? tot-to get— domain after we've said them? tot-to get to- domain after we've said them? but-to get to the- domain after we've said them? but to get to the truth. but we have to get to the truth. amt— but we have to get to the truth. mt trot-e— but we have to get to the truth. and that's-this— but we have to get to the truth. and that's this inquiry is and that's what this inquiry is all and that's what this inquiry is ott otowt. — and that's what this inquiry is all about. well,— and that's what this inquiry is all about. lattice "

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of the biggest events, though, in of course, in horse racing. of course, it got today with got underway today with authorities worried the animal rights disrupt rights protesters will disrupt the meeting. and in april, rights protesters will disrupt the meeting. and in april , the the meeting. and in april, the grand national was disrupted by animal rising. remember that? and claimed up to 1000 and they claimed up to 1000 activists were head to epsom tomorrow as they target the derby. but the jockey club has been granted a high court injunction to try and tackle any protests . so we join our protests. so we join our national reporter , paul hawkins, national reporter, paul hawkins, who is there at epsom . now. who is there at epsom. now. paul who is there at epsom. now. paul, thank you very much for joining me. so what can you tell us? is it nice and calm? it doesn't seem that that worrying there. oh, look , i said that and there. oh, look, i said that and then suddenly . so, yeah, really then suddenly. so, yeah, really eotm— then suddenly. so, yeah, really eotm. amt— then suddenly. so, yeah, really calm. and then— then suddenly. so, yeah, really calm. and then they— ’“ti“ 3: so, yeah, really calm. and then they came ’“i“ 3: so, yeah, really calm. and then they came to us, to— calm. and then they came to us, to me teet— calm. and then they came to us, came to me just at— calm. and then they came to us, came to me just at that minute. toot.— came to me just at that minute. toot. rt— came to me just at that minute. toot. tt te— came to me just at that minute. look, it is calm _ came to me just at that minute. look, it is calm at— came to me just at that minute. look, it is calm at the moment. me— look, it is calm at the moment. the roemg— look, it is calm at the moment. the roemg te— look, it is calm at the moment. the racing is underway. everyone-e— the racing is underway. everyone's inside watching it. wrot— everyone's inside watching it. what-noticeable- everyone's inside watching it. what noticeable , though, is everyone's inside watching it. whrenhancedtable , though, is everyone's inside watching it. whrenhanced securityiough, is everyone's inside watching it. whrenhanced security operation the enhanced security operation in the enhanced security operation m trot— the enhanced security operation to ttot te— the enhanced security operation to ttot te m— the enhanced security operation in that is in place— the enhanced security operation in that is in place once the every— in that is in place once the every te— in that is in place once the every race is underway, you can tre— every race is underway, you can see the stewards— every race is underway, you can see the stewards eyeballing everywhere— see the stewards eyeballing everywhere as— see the stewards eyeballing everywhere as you look down the

tteett— everywhere as you look down the course itself, you— everywhere as you look down the course itself, you can see etewort— course itself, you can see steward after— course itself, you can see steward after steward, steward ort— steward after steward, steward orrt mgr— steward after steward, steward orrt mgt we— steward after steward, steward and high vis jackets with about every— and high vis jackets with about every t— and high vis jackets with about every t or— and high vis jackets with about every t or s— and high vis jackets with about every 4 or 5 stewards, there's a pottee— every 4 or 5 stewards, there's a pottee ottteer— every 4 or 5 stewards, there's a police officer there— every 4 or 5 stewards, there's a police officer there as well. were— police officer there as well. there ore— police officer there as well. there are armed- police officer there as well. there are armed police everywhere— there are armed police everywhere as well. so they're totmg— everywhere as well. so they're totmg ttte— everywhere as well. so they're taking this seriously. it is a reot— taking this seriously. it is a reot ttreot. — taking this seriously. it is a real threat. we— taking this seriously. it is a real threat. we know that animal ttemg— real threat. we know that animal tttemg towe— real threat. we know that animal rising have been— real threat. we know that animal rising have been talking to the jockey— rising have been talking to the jockey crop.— rising have been talking to the jockey club, that— rising have been talking to the jockey club, that own epsom racecourse , and— jockey club, that own epsom racecourse , and there's going to racecourse, and there's going to be racecourse, and there's going to te o— racecourse, and there's going to te o peoeetwt— racecourse, and there's going to be a peaceful protest tomorrow, a be a peaceful protest tomorrow, o-ot— be a peaceful protest tomorrow, a-of alternative _ be a peaceful protest tomorrow, a of alternative epsom a kind of alternative epsom teettwot— a kind of alternative epsom festival taking— a kind of alternative epsom festival taking place just at the— festival taking place just at tte-oromt— festival taking place just at the-around the- festival taking place just at the around the other end the front around the other end of-grandstand_ the front around the other end of grandstand from 10:00 of the grandstand from 10:00 tomorrow-it'll- of the grandstand from 10:00 tomorrow it'll have tomorrow morning. it'll have ttmge— tomorrow morning. it'll have ttmge-oe— tomorrow morning. it'll have things as alternate kinds things such as alternate kinds of things such as alternate kinds ot orte— things such as alternate kinds of races, arts and— things such as alternate kinds of races, arts and crafts, that two— of races, arts and crafts, that tmt ot— of races, arts and crafts, that tmt ot ting.— of races, arts and crafts, that kind of thing. and they'll be motmg— kind of thing. and they'll be motmg metr— kind of thing. and they'll be making their voice heard that wow.— making their voice heard that wow. tot— making their voice heard that wow. pot mew— making their voice heard that way. but they have said that mew— way. but they have said that they wit.— way. but they have said that the wit. you — way. but they have said that they will, you know, that mew-re— they will, you know, that mew-re rot— they will, you know, that they're not afraid of breaking they're not afraid of breaking tree-rt— they're not afraid of breaking tree-rt mew— they're not afraid of breaking the-if they have- they're not afraid of breaking the if they have to, to try the law if they have to, to try ort— the law if they have to, to try orrt mote — the law if they have to, to try and make their— the law if they have to, to try and make their voice heard tomog— and make their voice heard tormg tre— and make their voice heard during the races. we don't think trot— during the races. we don't think trot-eoee— during the races. we don't think that-does happen,- during the races. we don't think that does happen, it will that if it does happen, it will topper— that if it does happen, it will topper-twe- that if it does happen, it will happen-live race.- that if it does happen, it will happen live race. it happen during a live race. it wttt— happen during a live race. it wttt topper— happen during a live race. it will happen between races. but tere— will happen between races. but mere—preporet- will happen between races. but here—prepared for| here they are very prepared for it. here they are very prepared for t. mew-we— here they are very prepared for it. they've spent— here they are very prepared for it. they've spent £150,000 on extro— it. they've spent £150,000 on extro-omt— it. they've spent £150,000 on extra - and the - it. they've spent £150,000 on extra and the reason extra security and the reason why— extra security and the reason wtw amtmot— extra security and the reason why animal rising wants to do is teeowee— why animal rising wants to do is teeowee mew— why animal rising wants to do is because they believe that the eport— because they believe that the eport te— because they believe that the eport te emet—

because they believe that the sport is cruel. want to see sport is cruel. they want to see an sport is cruel. they want to see om-to— sport is cruel. they want to see ore-to tre— sport is cruel. they want to see ore-to tte eport.— sport is cruel. they want to see an to the sport. they talk an end to the sport. they talk otowt— an end to the sport. they talk otowt-tmot— an end to the sport. they talk about-that-horsesl about the bit that the horses trove — about the bit that the horses have between _ about the bit that the horses have between their mouths. they tott— have between their mouths. they tott-wttpe— have between their mouths. they tott-wmpe mew- have between their mouths. they talk whips, they talk talk about the whips, they talk otowt— talk about the whips, they talk about-number— talk about the whips, they talk about-number of- about the number of horse teotte— about the number of horse deaths.-claim - about the number of horse. deaths.-claim .there deaths. they claim that there are deaths. they claim that there ore—zo- deaths. they claim that there ore—20 toreel are 20, there were 20 horse teotte— are 20, there were 20 horse deaths-british _ are 20, there were 20 horse deaths british horse racing deaths in british horse racing in deaths in british horse racing to wow— deaths in british horse racing to wow-ot— deaths in british horse racing to wow-ot tre— deaths in british horse racing in may at the grand national in may 3rd at the grand national -omt— in may 3rd at the grand national -orrt wette— in may 3rd at the grand national .-and while the— in may 3rd at the grand national . and while the british . that and while the british woree— . that and while the british woree toemg— . that and while the british horse racing industry itself wowtt—tool horse racing industry itself- would_too many, would say that one is too many, the would say that one is too many, tree-mew— would say that one is too many, tree-mew eow— would say that one is too many, tree-mew eow te— would say that one is too many, the they say, is tiny. now the risk they say, is tiny. now eet/o— the risk they say, is tiny. now eet/o ot— the risk they say, is tiny. now 98% of horses— the risk they say, is tiny. now 98% of horses that run races toot— 98% of horses that run races come back from _ 98% of horses that run races come back from the race in perteettw— come back from the race in perteettw gooe— come back from the race in perfectly good order and really the interesting— perfectly good order and really the interesting thing to note is mot— the interesting thing to note is ttot tteee— the interesting thing to note is that these are— the interesting thing to note is that these are two organisations mot— that these are two organisations ttot tott— that these are two organisations that both have— that these are two organisations that both have a— that these are two organisations that both have a love for omtmote— that both have a love for animals. it's— that both have a love for animals. it's about the way they epreee— animals. it's about the way they epreee trot— animals. it's about the way they express that love.— animals. it's about the way they express that love. one says that it's express that love. one says that we otow— express that love. one says that we otow to— express that love. one says that it's okay to ride— express that love. one says that it's okay to ride horses and trot— it's okay to ride horses and ttot wow— it's okay to ride horses and that you care— it's okay to ride horses and that you care them that way. that you care for them that way. the — that you care for them that way. the otter— that you care for them that way. the other oe— that you care for them that way. the other one says— that you care for them that way. the other one says they the other one says no, they etowtt— the other one says no, they etowtt te— the other one says no, they should be allowed roam free. the other one says no, they shoul listen, lowed roam free. the other one says no, they shoul listen, paul, roam free. the other one says no, they shoul listen, paul, thankim free. the other one says no, they shoul listen, paul, thank you�*ee. well, listen, paul, thank you very— well, listen, paul, thank you very mwem — well, listen, paul, thank you very much. you'll- well, listen, paul, thank you very much. /ti:t .. well, listen, paul, thank you very much. /ti:t. .e “g very much. you'll be keeping us up date throughout day. up to date throughout the day. and tomorrow we will and of course, tomorrow we will be live at the derby, too. but i'm joined nathan i'm also joined by nathan mcgovern. a spokesperson mcgovern. he's a spokesperson for animal rising. thank for animal rising. nathan, thank you much joining us. you very much for joining us. wonderful you. now look, wonderful to join you. now look, as majority as paul mentioned, the majority of come back from of the horses come back from that quite, quite happy. that derby quite, quite happy. 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you know, it doesn't is it really bad? what is it you really bad? what is it that you want? so what i'd love for us to do want? so what i'd love for us to to te— want? so what i'd love for us to to te towe— want? so what i'd love for us to to te trove o— want? so what i'd love for us to do is have a national— do is have a national conversation - do is have a national conversation about broken conversation about our broken retottomemp— conversation about our broken relationship_and| relationship with animals and the relationship with animals and tree—vow- relationship with animals andi tree—vow mow. relationship with animals and- the _you know, the the natural world. you know, the jockey brings that jockey club brings up that statistic. say 98% of statistic. they say 98% of horses come from races as horses come home from races as safe sound. but, you know, safe and sound. but, you know, if safe and sound. but, you know, tt we— safe and sound. but, you know, tt we took— safe and sound. but, you know, tt we took ot— safe and sound. but, you know, if we look at premier- rit“t: “t: but, you know, if we look at premier league toottott— if we look at premier league toottott. rt— if we look at premier league football, if.had- football, if we had two footballers _ football, if we had two footballers dying every every sotwrtow— footballers dying every every saturday, _ offs, l saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, wowtt— saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, wowtt-towe- saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, would - have that - saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, would have that sport would we still have that sport orowrrte— would we still have that sport orowrrte t— would we still have that sport around? i don't— would we still have that sport around? i don't think so. and trot-e— around? i don't think so. and that's-talking- around? i don't think so. and that's talking about around? i don't think so. and thatrack, talking about around? i don't think so. and thatrack, off talking about around? i don't think so. and thatrack, off track king about around? i don't think so. and thatrack, off track deaths. )ut around? i don't think so. and thatrack, off track deaths. you off track, off track deaths. you mow.— off track, off track deaths. you mow-tort— off track, off track deaths. you know, - don't - get i know, these don't even get reeortet. — know, these don't even get recorded. things happen on etottee— recorded. things happen on etottee or— recorded. things happen on stables or when _ recorded. things happen on stables or when horses taken recorded. things happen on stablt races, vhen horses taken recorded. things happen on stablt races, wheniorses taken recorded. things happen on stabltraces,when|orses ofiken after races, when they die of teort— after races, when they die of heart attacks— after races, when they die of heart attacks .the - heart attacks from the overexertion - heart attacks from the overexertion that we put them through. — overexertion that we put them through. _tooti overexertion that we put them i through. _look, the through. but you know, look, the ortmote— through. but you know, look, the orrtmote. tre— through. but you know, look, the animals, the animal people who are animals, the animal people who tootmg— animals, the animal people who are looking after— animals, the animal people who are looking after these horses, so are looking after these horses, eo-toetewe— are looking after these horses, eo-toetewe-omti are looking after these horses,i so .jockeys-and so so the jockeys and so on and so torm— so the jockeys and so on and so forth wit— so the jockeys and so on and so forth wttt eow— so the jockeys and so on and so forth will say that— so the jockeys and so on and so forth will say that they love tmeee— forth will say that they love these animals— forth will say that they love these animals these animals these animals and these animals wowttrtt— these animals and these animals wowttrtt-tte— these animals and these animals wouldn't the animal wouldn't do it if the animal tron-t— wouldn't do it if the animalj tttrtt—oo wouldn't do it if the animal- tttrtt—oo wow didn't want to. i mean, do you buy into that argument? you know, i do think that 3“ you know, i do think that the people trwotwet— know, i do think that the people trwotwet m— know, i do think that the people involved in century, the involved in this century, the woet— involved in this century, the wet—them.- involved in this century, the vast—them, do. involved in this century, the. vast—them, do love vast majority of them, do love orrtmote— vast majority of them, do love orrtmoteltorrg— vast majority of them, do love animals long they're animals as long as they're wtttm— animals as long as they're. wtttm—tmow within the industry. you know, tewm— within the industry. you know, tewm mote— within the industry. you know, kevin blake night, you kevin blake last night, you mow.— kevin blake last night, you mow-woe.— kevin blake last night, you know,.was, you- kevin blake last night, you know, was, you know, jaw know, he was, you know, jaw dropped— know, he was, you know, jaw troppet—ot- know, he was, you know, jaw troppet—ot tte| dropped to the floor at the eoggeettorr— dropped to the floor at the suggestion was— dropped to the floor at the suggestion was £4 billion mowetrw— suggestion was £4 billion

industry-look- suggestion was £4 billion industry look after these industry would look after these more— industry would look after these moreeeltmere— industry would look after these horses there racing horses if there wasn't racing amt— horses if there wasn't racing amt-reottw— horses if there wasn't racing and-really what- horses if there wasn't racing and really what we need horses if there wasn't racing an be really what we need horses if there wasn't racing an be looking lly what we need horses if there wasn't racing anbe looking at what we need horses if there wasn't racing anbe looking at ishat we need horses if there wasn't racing anbe looking at is how/e need horses if there wasn't racing anbe looking at is how do ieed horses if there wasn't racing anbe looking at is how do wei to be looking at is how do we took— to be looking at is how do we took otter— to be looking at is how do we look after these _ to be looking at is how do we look after these animals without them — look after these animals without them _themselves- look after these animals without them themselves on them hurting themselves on roetet — them hurting themselves on racetracks. but— them hurting themselves on racetracks. i them hurting themselves on racetracks. rt?" i“ racetracks. but look, an animal could if it's could hurt itself if it's running in the wild, an running out in the wild, an animal could hurt itself. if it's doing thing, it's just doing its own thing, even its own, without about, even on its own, without about, you riding it as you know, somebody riding it as a they love horses. a jockey. they love the horses. they put a lot of money into the sport. so these horses are looked ultimately looked after. and ultimately your of looking after looked after. and ultimately your horses: looking after looked after. and ultimately your horses is)oking after looked after. and ultimately your horses is similar. fter looked after. and ultimately your horses is similar. isr looked after. and ultimately your horses is similar. is it these horses is similar. is it just that you don't what just that you don't like what they're doing with the horses and them to stop? is and you want them to stop? is that what it is? so ultimately, wtot— that what it is? so ultimately, wtot ttte— that what it is? so ultimately, wtot tme te— that what it is? so ultimately, what this is, it's— that what it is? so ultimately, what this is, it's an— i 57 so ultimately, what this is, it's an issue of wemg— what this is, it's an issue of we're using these animals for eometmmg— we're using these animals for something-know,- we're using these animals for something know, they something you know, they wowttrtt— something you know, they. wouldn't-otherwise. wouldn't be doing otherwise. you know,— wouldn't be doing otherwise. you know—run] know, horses, they love to run. vou— know, horses, they love to run. you know,— know, horses, they love to run. you know, they— know, horses, they love to run. you know, they love to run through— you know, they love to run through fields.— you know, they love to run through fields. you know, maybe through— through fields. you know, maybe even through—if- through fields. you know, maybe even through if they even through woodlands. if they are-ponies— even through woodlands. if they are-ponies or— even through woodlands. if they are ponies or anything. but are wild ponies or anything. but they—do— are wild ponies or anything. but they—do is- are wild ponies or anything. but they—do is have. they don't love to do is have someone-their- they don't love to do is have someone their back, they don't love to do is have- someone _their back, put they don't love to do is have- s(biteone-their back, put they don't love to do is have- s(bit in e-their back, put they don't love to do is have s(bit in their their back, put they don't love to do is have s(bit in their their iwhip put a bit in their mouth and whip them — a bit in their mouth and whip them lthem— a bit in their mouth and whip them .them to _ a bit in their mouth and whip them them to run. them for them to run. okay. but then— them for them to run. okay. but then ht— them for them to run. okay. but then if they like that, then if they didn't like that, surely wouldn't do it. surely they wouldn't do it. i mean, know, put a bit in mean, you know, you put a bit in the mouth. if wasn't the horse's mouth. if it wasn't going to it, could throw going to do it, it could throw you it's a bigger animal you off. it's a bigger animal

than would be the than you and that would be the end you. so this absolutely end of you. so this absolutely does with horses does happen with some horses that decide they had that just decide that they had enough. and what the does, enough. and what the bit does, if enough. and what the bit does, tt—te- enough. and what the bit does, tt—to yourl if you let me explain to your viewers, perhaps,— if you let me explain to your viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse—radiating- viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse so-radiating- viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse so the radiating viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse so the jockey|diating viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse so the jockey|diat complete pain. so the jockey has complete eohttot—utth- pain. so the jockey has complete control _with the l control over the horse with the bit control over the horse with the htt—the — control over the horse with the htt—the-thotl bit because of the pain that he— bit because of the pain that he ooueho— bit because of the pain that it's causing, causing, causing it. it's causing, causing, causing tt. .thot— it's causing, causing, causing it. that essentially, you it. and that essentially, you thou,— it. and that essentially, you thou, te— it. and that essentially, you know, is making— it. and that essentially, you know, is making horse know, is making the horse submit to—toetey.- know, is making the horse submit to—toetey. aho- to the will of the jockey. and that— to the will of the jockey. and that toeeh-t— to the will of the jockey. and that doesn't sound very nice to —eouht- that doesn't sound very nice to —eouht vehl me. no, it doesn't sound very .th— me. no, it doesn't sound very nth-hot- nice. and is there not an alternative that could nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 ve that could nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 i! that could nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 i mean,1at could nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 i mean, would could nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 i mean, would you jld nice. and is there not an alttthat.7 i mean, would you be do that? i mean, would you be happy they up happy if they came up with a different got the different device that got the horse to do they in horse to do what they wanted in terms horse? terms of riding the horse? otherwise you know, we haven't got you know, loads got fields and you know, loads of horses run around got fields and you know, loads of you're horses run around got fields and you know, loads of you're horseswonderfulhund as you're in your wonderful vision, is nice. we don't vision, which is nice. we don't even houses for even have enough houses for people in. so, i mean, people to live in. so, i mean, it's. know mean? it's. you know what i mean? yeah. do yeah. no i absolutely do understand mean. and understand what you mean. and the is, there is already the thing is, there is already an unacceptable— the thing is, there is already an unacceptable risk associated utth—thot-e- with horse racing that's not going—know going away. and you know, the hush»— industry, we might claim they're improving— industry, we might claim they're tmhomouht— industry, we might claim they're impamount deaths on on the amount of deaths on on teete— the amount of deaths on on truths-gong- the amount of deaths on on tracks going down. the tracks aren't going down. the amount— amount of deaths in stables that we amount of deaths in stables that toe-heu— amount of deaths in stables that we-hear-certainly. we don't hear about certainly oeht— we don't hear about certainly tent—the- we don't hear about certainly. aren't—the amount we don't hear about certainly- aren't_the amount of aren't going down. the amount of hoes— aren't going down. the amount of hoteee—ttl horses that don't even make it to o— horses that don't even make it to o toot— horses that don't even make it to a track astonishing. to a track is astonishing. so, toot.— to a track is astonishing. so, tooh—evehl look, i love animals, even though don't seem

though a lot of them don't seem to my friend's got some to like me. my friend's got some dogs that just i don't dogs that just hate me. i don't know why dogs as well, but know why tiny dogs as well, but scary. um. but know, don't scary. um. but you know, i don't want and want to see them in pain. and do you with you feel the public are with you? yeah after the grand you? so. yeah after the grand national, know, you national, you know, yougov, you know, the day after they did a poll british public poll on just the british public think the grand national is cruel. you know, 54% of us came out— cruel. you know, 54% of us came out-eut— cruel. you know, 54% of us came out-oete we— cruel. you know, 54% of us came out-oete we to— cruel. you know, 54% of us came out-said we do not- (at; you know, 54% of us came out said we do not think titl; you know, 54% of us came out said we do not think the out and said we do not think the ortho— out and said we do not think the grand national— out and said we do not think the grand national something grand national is something that reflects— grand national is something that reflects—nation. reflects our values as a nation of reflects our values as a nation ot-tovete — reflects our values as a nationi of-lovers. _would reflects our values as a nation- of-lovers. _would you of animal lovers. what would you like happen to it? so like to see happen to it? so what i'd love see is you what i'd love to see is you thou,— what i'd love to see is you thou—tel what i'd love to see is youi know,_it's not know, this industry, it's not going— know, this industry, it's not going-tomorrow.- know, this industry, it's not going tomorrow. that's going to end tomorrow. that's tutt— going to end tomorrow. that's just hot— going to end tomorrow. that's just not practical. _ going to end tomorrow. that's just not practical. but what we ooh-treethg- just not practical. but what we can breeding these can do is stop breeding these ohtmote— can do is stop breeding these animals—purely animals into existence purely for animals into existence purely tot—whet- animals into existence purely. tot—uhotieoh for using them and what we can do, for using them and what we can to—tt-e— for using them and what we can to—tt-elth- for using them and what we can do,-it'sl£4 billion. do, you know, it's a £4 billion industw-— do, you know, it's a £4 billion thtueth.—ot| industry. they make a lot of honey— industry. they make a lot of money-bookies- industry. they make a lot of money bookies as industry. they make a lot of- money-bookies as well. money from the bookies as well. that— money from the bookies as well. that money— money from the bookies as well. that money could— money from the bookies as well. that money could to that money could be put to better— that money could be put to better-tou— that money could be put to better-for,-know. that money could be put to better for, know , for better use for, you know, for opening— better use for, you know, for opening sanctuaries or to puttthg— opening sanctuaries or to - putting—sanctuaries opening sanctuaries or to - puttintthey-sanctuaries opening sanctuaries or to puttintthey live sanctuaries opening sanctuaries or to puttintthey live theirjaries opening sanctuaries or to puttintthey live their 20,5s opening sanctuaries or to puttintthey live their 20, 25 opening sanctuaries or to putti lifespan live their 20, 25 opening sanctuaries or to putti lifespan andle their 20, 25 opening sanctuaries or to putti lifespan and a their 20, 25 opening sanctuaries or to putti lifespan and a happyeo, 25 year lifespan and a happy retirement— year lifespan and a happy retirement. _ year lifespan and a happy retirement . year lifespan and a happy retirement. year lifespan and a happy retirement . retirement. so but but obviously, in your in your vision that that business won't be money that be happening. so that money that you're that won't you're seeing to do that won't be there. so that is be there. so that money is already in the industry. already there in the industry. and you're saying that all these companies going get rid companies are going to get rid of , right? they're of the horses, right? they're they're all their

they're going to put all their profits into making a nice sanctuary horses . i sanctuary for the horses. i don't think that's going to happen. if these happen. if we love these ohtmote. — animals. that's exactly what. no,— animals. that's exactly what. uo-thot-e— animals. that's exactly what. no,-that's not-to. no, no, that's not going to happen. — no, no, that's not going to happen. _tootl no, no, that's not going to happen. _toot .i no, no, that's not going to hoppeh-hot . t| happen. i mean, look, i understand. i mean, look, i think perhaps somewhere there's a sort of a happy halfway medium where perhaps the racing i don't like the fact they whip the horses. i would agree with you. there idea there i don't like the idea of what with the bit in what you said with the bit in their mouth. perhaps they could find of of find a nicer way of kind of way of that, maybe even better of doing that, maybe even better regulation. of doing that, maybe even better reglandin. people run these you and the people who run these these big multi faceted these sort of big multi faceted businesses that horse businesses that deal with horse racing care about the racing actually care about the animals. absolutely do animals. yeah, we absolutely do . and, you know, if kevin blake or teth— . and, you know, if kevin blake or nevin truesdale,_ and, you know, if kevin blake or nevin truesdale, know, or nevin truesdale, you know, wont—tottel want to sit down at a table, hove— want to sit down at a table, hove-hove- want to sit down at a table, hove-hove o- want to sit down at a table, have-have a chat. want to sit down at a table, have have a chat with have a pint, have a chat with me about— have a pint, have a chat with me ohout-t-t— have a pint, have a chat with me ohout-t-t he— have a pint, have a chat with me about-i'd be more- have a pint, have a chat with me about i'd be more than about this, i'd be more than weeohte— about this, i'd be more than ueeomte to— about this, i'd be more than welcome to do— about this, i'd be more than welcome to do because at welcome to do that because at the— welcome to do that because at the-ht,— welcome to do that because at the-ht, t— welcome to do that because at the-it, i think- welcome to do that because at the-it, i think we- welcome to do that because at the it, i think we are a the core of it, i think we are a hottoh— the core of it, i think we are a hottoh ot— the core of it, i think we are a nation of animal— the core of it, i think we are a nation of animal but nation of animal lovers. but oetee— nation of animal lovers. but| sometimes—don't sometimes our actions don't ough— sometimes our actions don't. then—perhaps align with that. well, perhaps i could of ways of doing could find kind of ways of doing the ultimately, the thing, but ultimately, if they ways, they could find kind of ways, would acceptable? would that be more acceptable? and so and actually more realistic? so at would still at its core, that would still be using animals for something using the animals for something they wouldn't they they naturally wouldn't be doing. don't want doing. you know, they don't want to—the— doing. you know, they don't want to—the htoeeee- doing. you know, they don't want to _the process to l to do you know, the process to get— to do you know, the process to eet—thou,- to do you know, the process to

get—thou, uhehl to do you know, the process to. get—know, when it's get a horse, you know, when it's hom— get a horse, you know, when it's born-ready— get a horse, you know, when it's born-ready to— get a horse, you know, when it's born-ready to race- get a horse, you know, when it's born ready to race is born to be ready to race is tttetotty— born to be ready to race is literally called _ born to be ready to race is literally called breaking in. tho— literally called breaking in. ant-thot-e- literally called breaking in. and that's quite and you know that's quite a hotsh— and you know that's quite a harsh term.— and you know that's quite a harsh term. you— and you know that's quite a harsh term. you know, we're heathe— harsh term. you know, we're breaking animals to in do breaking these animals to in do eomeththg— breaking these animals to in do something—them. something that we want them to do. something that we want them to to-hohhehe— something that we want them to do. happens regardless something that we want them to do if happens regardless something that we want them to do if they're happens regardless something that we want them to do if they're running s regardless something that we want them to do if they're running onzgardless something that we want them to do if they're running on the dless of if they're running on the hot— of if they're running on the ttot—tuhphgl of if they're running on the. flat—jumping over flat or if they're jumping over teheee— flat or if they're jumping over teheee .— flat or if they're jumping over fences ,ithink. _ flat or if they're jumping over fences , think. fences, i think. but but lots of things up sort of breaking things end up sort of breaking in things, you know, getting something comfortable with something. even when i buy a new pair pair pair of you're breaking a pair of boots. you don't of walking boots. you don't break a living,— g you don't break a living, breathing ohthot. — break a living, breathing animal. the animal. well, maybe it's the terminology they're using terminology that they're using that doesn't sound right, but they're just getting them used to with which to an environment with which they're to be they're going to be acclimatised. you another acclimatised. you could another word you word could be acclimatise. you could you word could be acclimatise. you cou|what you word could be acclimatise. you cou|what i you word could be acclimatise. you cou|what i mean? you word could be acclimatise. you cou|what i mean? that you word could be acclimatise. you cou|what i mean? that sounds see what i mean? that sounds less it just sounds less cruel. and it just sounds it does the thing. i don't it does the same thing. i don't know. i do agree with you on many levels that it is cruel and unkind. then wonder, unkind. but then i wonder, i mean, meat? no, no, mean, do you eat meat? no, no, i don't. so. so you see, you don't eat meat. you don't i mean, you know, a of people couldn't know, a lot of people couldn't live standard. live up to that standard. i don't the industry don't think the industry will change speed that change that in the speed that you'd like. fast would you you'd like. how fast would you like to a change? no. like to see a change? no. as i said, not i like to see a change? no. as i| said,_not i don't said, you know, i'm not i don't ththt— said, you know, i'm not i don't think-possible— said, you know, i'm not i don't think-possible-it. think it's possible to end it tomorrow,-can- think it's possible to end it tomorrow,-can the tomorrow, but we can begin the poets— tomorrow, but we can begin the process now-have- tomorrow, but we can begin the process now. have this process now. we can have this eohveteottoh— process now. we can have this

conversation broken conversation about our broken tetottohehth— relationship with animals and the-hotte— relationship with animals and the _world-look. the natural world and look to, you— the natural world and look to, you-ththt— the natural world and look to,| you-think-nation you know, think we're a nation of you know, think we're a nation ot ohthot— you know, think we're a nation of animal lovers. _ you know, think we're a nation of animal lovers. let's act like tt. — of animal lovers. let's act like tt. -utthth— of animal lovers. let's act like it. _nathan, thank- of animal lovers. let's act like it. _nathan, thank youl of animal lovers. let's act like. it. _nathan, thank you very it. okay. nathan, thank you very much. talk to much. are you good to talk to you. nathan mcgovern. you. that's nathan mcgovern. he's animal he's a spokesperson for animal rising. join rising. you just join me. welcome this gb welcome on board. this is gb news online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio . there's more digital radio. there's lots more still now. and still to come to you now. and 4:00, we'll live to the 4:00, we'll cross live to the london hotel where migrants have been that rooms been moaning that the rooms aren't enough , honestly. aren't nice enough, honestly. and more on today's big and there's more on today's big news holly willoughby will news that holly willoughby will return to this morning on monday. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with rhiannon . thank you, nana. it's rhiannon. thank you, nana. it's 332. your top stories from the newsroom the— 332. your top stories from the newsroom the home secretary is tethe— newsroom the home secretary is hethe osteo— newsroom the home secretary is hethg asked to— newsroom the home secretary is being asked to clarify why a group— being asked to clarify why a group ot— being asked to clarify why a group of asylum seekers were tett— group of asylum seekers were tett oh— group of asylum seekers were tett oh the— group of asylum seekers were left on the streets of london for left on the streets of london to two — left on the streets of london for two nights.— left on the streets of london for two nights. the home office ottegeth— for two nights. the home office allegedly asked— for two nights. the home office allegedly asked around 40 refugees— allegedly asked around 40 tetugeee to— allegedly asked around 40 refugees to sleep four per room in refugees to sleep four per room th e— refugees to sleep four per room th e hotet—

refugees to sleep four per room th e hotet .— refugees to sleep four per room in a hotel . around— refugees to sleep four per room in a hotel . around 20 people in a hotel. around 20 people hove— in a hotel. around 20 people have teen— in a hotel. around 20 people have been protesting outside that— have been protesting outside that hotet— have been protesting outside that hotel this— have been protesting outside that hotel this afternoon in a 19 that hotel this afternoon in a to year— that hotel this afternoon in a to year ott— that hotel this afternoon in a 19 year old man— that hotel this afternoon in a 19 year old man has been sentenced— 19 year old man has been sentenced to— 19 year old man has been sentenced to life with a minimum of sentenced to life with a minimum ot eh— sentenced to life with a minimum ot etx years— sentenced to life with a minimum ot etx years th— sentenced to life with a minimum of six years in prison for planning— of six years in prison for planning terror attacks on the toothe— planning terror attacks on the pottee. aho— planning terror attacks on the police. and military. matthew the,— police. and military. matthew tho o— police. and military. matthew king, a muslim_ police. and military. matthew king, a muslim convert from teee— king, a muslim convert from essex, pleaded— king, a muslim convert from essex, pleaded guilty to ptottthg— essex, pleaded guilty to htottthg the— essex, pleaded guilty to plotting the attacks between zozt— plotting the attacks between zozt ont— plotting the attacks between 2021 and 2022. _ plotting the attacks between 2021 and 2022. he was arrested otter— 2021 and 2022. he was arrested otter hte— 2021 and 2022. he was arrested after his mother— 2021 and 2022. he was arrested after his mother reported him to the prevent— after his mother reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism program— the prevent counter—terrorism program .— the prevent counter—terrorism progrom . mom— the prevent counter—terrorism program . imam borisjohnson says program. imam borisjohnson says hee— program. imam borisjohnson says he-e eeht— program. imam borisjohnson says me set ott— program. imam borisjohnson says he's sent all unredacted rrhotertpp— he's sent all unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the coup— whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry. the former hume— the covid inquiry. the former prime minister— the covid inquiry. the former prime minister told the mouth-e— prime minister told the inquiry's chairwoman he'd like to to— inquiry's chairwoman he'd like to to the— inquiry's chairwoman he'd like to do the same— inquiry's chairwoman he'd like to do the same with messages on an to do the same with messages on em ott— to do the same with messages on em ott phone.— to do the same with messages on em ott phohe. he— to do the same with messages on an old phone. he stopped using the— an old phone. he stopped using due to— an old phone. he stopped using due to security— an old phone. he stopped using due to security concerns . it's due to security concerns. it's otter— due to security concerns. it's otter the— due to security concerns. it's after the government argued it thought— after the government argued it shouldn't have— after the government argued it shouldn't have to— after the government argued it shouldn't have to hand over what it shouldn't have to hand over what tt totte— shouldn't have to hand over what it calls irrelevant— shouldn't have to hand over what it calls irrelevant material . it calls irrelevant material. trthtetere— it calls irrelevant material. ministers are— it calls irrelevant material. ministers are preparing for a tegot— ministers are preparing for a tegot hotte— ministers are preparing for a legal battle with the inquiry. a prettmmory— legal battle with the inquiry. a preliminary hearing will be held on tueetoy— preliminary hearing will be held on tuesday and— preliminary hearing will be held on tuesday and phillip schofield

says— on tuesday and phillip schofield says hee— on tuesday and phillip schofield eoye he-e toot— on tuesday and phillip schofield says he's lost everything after reretottom— says he's lost everything after revelations of— says he's lost everything after revelations of his— says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger— revelations of his affair with a younger mote— revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague. but thereto— younger male colleague. but thereto he— younger male colleague. but insists he didn't— younger male colleague. but insists he didn't groom him. in his insists he didn't groom him. in hte thet— insists he didn't groom him. in his first interview— insists he didn't groom him. in his first interview since teortmg— his first interview since leaving itv,— his first interview since leaving itv, schofield told the hec— leaving itv, schofield told the the hee— leaving itv, schofield told the bbc he's broken— leaving itv, schofield told the bbc he's broken and ashamed and hen— bbc he's broken and ashamed and hen toreer— bbc he's broken and ashamed and he'll forever be— bbc he's broken and ashamed and he'll forever be sorry . bbc he's broken and ashamed and he'll forever be sorry. he's etotmet— he'll forever be sorry. he's claimed the— he'll forever be sorry. he's claimed the affair has been htouh— claimed the affair has been htouh up— claimed the affair has been blown up because of homophobe here— blown up because of homophobe here wett— blown up because of homophobe here ue-tt to— blown up because of homophobe here we'll do find— blown up because of homophobe here we'll do find each other ottroettre— here we'll do find each other attractive in— here we'll do find each other attractive in in— here we'll do find each other attractive in in different age groups. — attractive in in different age groupe. t— attractive in in different age groupe. t mem— attractive in in different age groups. i mean it- attractive in in different age groups. c groups. i mean it does happen, you know. but it's the mere fact that this is so gigantic and i appreciate the workplace and, you know , and the history i get you know, and the history i get that. but it's the fact that it's, you know, it's so massive . kyiv is predominantly home phobia . and you can get more on phobia. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news .com . our website, gb news .com. direct bullion sponsors the

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pleaded guilty to plotting an ottom— pleaded guilty to plotting an attack oh— pleaded guilty to plotting an attack on police— pleaded guilty to plotting an attack on police stations, railway— attack on police stations, railway stations and a british army— railway stations and a british army barracks— railway stations and a british army barracks between 2021 and zon— army barracks between 2021 and zon- hereo— army barracks between 2021 and 2022. here's what— army barracks between 2021 and 2022. here's what judge mark tuerott— 2022. here's what judge mark tuerott eort— 2022. here's what judge mark lucraft said in— 2022. here's what judge mark lucraft said in court today . lucraft said in court today. i am — lucraft said in court today. i am ot— lucraft said in court today. i pm of the— lucraft said in court today. i am of the view— lucraft said in court today. i am of the view that- lucraft said in court today. i am of the view that there must, in this case be a discretionary life sentence, and that is the sentence i impose upon having considered what would otherwise be the appropriate categorisation of this case and the impact of the aggravating and mitigating features , and mitigating features, including age and maturity , the including age and maturity, the appropriate sentence, the minimum term, as i indicate, would be one of nine years custody, allowing for your plea, a minimum term of six years. well let's speak to our home and security editor , mark white security editor, mark white mark. well , security editor, mark white mark. well, yes, i mean, this young— mark. well, yes, i mean, this young mm— mark. well, yes, i mean, this young te— mark. well, yes, i mean, this young to o— well, yes, i mean, this young man is a notable for the teet— young man is a notable for the toot thet— young man is a notable for the toot that he— young man is a notable for the fact that he was— young man is a notable for the fact that he was an individual, that— fact that he was an individual, that the— fact that he was an individual, that the police _ fact that he was an individual, that the police and security eemteee— that the police and security services had— that the police and security services had been warning about for services had been warning about tor ome— services had been warning about tor ttme— services had been warning about for some time now. " for some time now. this is an individual who was radicalised dunng individual who was radicalised during lockdown. there was a great deal of concern that

people were effectively, you know , locked in their bedrooms know, locked in their bedrooms with access to the internet could then be susceptible to all kinds of extremist messaging and a number of people, the police and security services say , have and security services say, have indeed been radicalised . well, indeed been radicalised. well, this young man had gone out to the point of trying to further a plot to murder soldiers and police officers. he carried out reconnaissance of seven rifles, barracks in east london. he had also so carried out reconnaissance at stratford railway station in east london off the magistrates court in stratford, filming police officers looking for targets. he'd gone as far as purchasing car combat, tactical gloves , car combat, tactical gloves, tactical combat goggles and combat jacket that he tried to get a combat knife online. but because he was only 18 at the time or 17, i think he couldn't.

he had to show proof of identity and he couldn't get a combat knife. but of course, you can pick up a kitchen knife just from your own kitchen drawer. so there was real concern that this young man was about to launch a terrorist attack at any time . terrorist attack at any time. and that's why the police moved in just over a year ago to arrest him. now, he called himself as a muslim convert . himself as a muslim convert. after going online, he decided to convert to islam and then got into the most extreme form of islam . he called himself abdul islam. he called himself abdul kalashnikov . islam. he called himself abdul kalashnikov. i mean, almost comical in in a sense , but comical in in a sense, but actually deadly serious, according to the police . he was according to the police. he was very intrigued and very entrenched, extremely islamist ideology that he was willing to enact . there was an ideology that he was willing to enact. there was an online girlfriend who's only been referred to as miss e, but who was in encouraging him to go out to kidnap a soldier to mutilate

the soldier to ultimate behead the soldier to ultimate behead the soldier, and anybody that doesn't think this is serious just needs to reflect on the fact that just a couple of weeks ago we commemorated the 10th anniversary of the murder of lee rigby in east london. there was a very real threat out there and now a new generation. sadly of people who have been radicalised onune people who have been radicalised online during lockdown and are coming through and posing a threat. and coming through and posing a threat . and how coming through and posing a threat. and how did coming through and posing a threat . and how did the police threat. and how did the police eort— threat. and how did the police eort ot— threat. and how did the police eort ot teee— threat. and how did the police sort of trace him?— and how did the police sort of trace him? because they reotteet— sort of trace him? because they reotteet that— sort of trace him? because they realised that he— sort of trace him? because they realised that he was somebody they-t— realised that he was somebody they-t teem— realised that he was somebody they'd been warning of him. were they— they'd been warning of him. were they tottoutmg— they'd been warning of him. were they following his— they'd been warning of him. were they following his activity omttmee— they following his activity online? what— they following his activity online? what was there? whiz; online? what was there? well, thro— online? what was there? well, thto woo— online? what was there? well, this was unusual— online? what was there? well, this was unusual ,— online? what was there? well, this was unusual, actually, in that this young man's mother contacted the counter extremism programme, prevent it to alert them to the fact that her son was growing increasingly extreme in his beliefs . now, i say it's in his beliefs. now, i say it's unusual. it is a very few family members ever contact the prevent

counter extremism programme or indeed i'd go into other avenues to speak to the authorities about loved ones that they think might be spiralling down a path towards violent extremism. they are concerned clearly for the potential consequences for that young individual . but this young individual. but this mother clearly thought it well. you know , she's so concerned she you know, she's so concerned she has to contact the police better . you know that her son is tried and convicted in a court of law. then her son go off and murder innocent members of the public or the armed forces and the police in this occasion or indeed may be dying himself at the heart or the hands of armed police response , adding to this police response, adding to this incident also members of the pubuc incident also members of the public contacted the police , public contacted the police, some members of the public who were at a mosque that he had attended. a number of mosques and they warned him about his behaviour. one mosque as well in east london banned him from

coming back. such was the extreme nature of what he was saying . in a way it shows that saying. in a way it shows that eweteme— saying. in a way it shows that our systems are— g in a way it shows that our systems are beginning to wort— our systems are beginning to work now. they're working a bit together,— work now. they're working a bit more together, aren't they, with oetuot— more together, aren't they, with oetuut peopte— more together, aren't they, with actual people in— more together, aren't they, with actual people in mosques oetuottw— actual people in mosques actually worrying about this peoh— actually worrying about this person the— actually worrying about this person and people keeping their eye person and people keeping their ewe—owhl eye out. and actually his own mother— eye out. and actually his own mother-out- eye out. and actually his own mother-out and- eye out. and actually his own mother out and saying, mother coming out and saying, toot,— mother coming out and saying, toot, we— mother coming out and saying, toot, we meet— mother coming out and saying, look, we need to— mother coming out and saying, look, we need to keep an eye on the— look, we need to keep an eye on thte-veoh. — look, we need to keep an eye on thte-veoh. t— look, we need to keep an eye on this-yeah. i mean,- look, we need to keep an eye on this-yeah. i mean, youi this person. yeah. i mean, you mow.— this person. yeah. i mean, you know, not perfect at all know, it's not perfect at all andifs know, it's not perfect at all and it's very patchy. it depends on the mosque and, you know, the there are lots of mosques across there are lots of mosques across the country where perhaps the police would like them to be a bit more cooperative. and they don't see them as being as engaged with the authorities as as he'd like. but yes , there are as he'd like. but yes, there are clearly some mosques out there who in seeing this kind of behaviour and activity, are willing to contact the authorities and did do in this case. thank goodness. mark white, thank you _ case. thank goodness. mark white, thank you very- d mark white, thank you very much for tottthg— white, thank you very much for tottthg to— white, thank you very much for tottmg to us.— white, thank you very much for talking to us. that's mark white here— talking to us. that's mark white here ot— talking to us. that's mark white here at the— talking to us. that's mark white here at the home— talking to us. that's mark white here at the home and security etttor— here at the home and security etttor mowhg— here at the home and security editor moving on— here at the home and security editor moving on to this story,

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tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . now, in a few i'm nana akua. now, in a few moments i'll be telling you about the teenager obsessed with islamic state. he's been sentenced to life . and just sentenced to life. and just after 4:00, i'll be joined by some of gestapo's biggest backers and ask him is he in bed with sir keir starmer? that, of course, will be del vince later on. but i've got to tell you that had quite that we've had quite a few messages in now we're talking to with regard to animal rising. got a message here from mel with regard oh, for goodness sake, those activists look as if they've just come out of nappies , of stress on , not a wrinkle of stress on their adult teen faces. they don't meat. fine. do they don't eat meat. fine. do they wear leather shoes or use leather items for work study? were they broken in as kids or allowed to run wild by their parents? so hypocrites parents? they are so hypocrites . al, mel, thank you for that. right right now, this was this this week we're expecting the confirmation that tata, the indian company that owns jaguar land rover, will be building a multi—billion pound gigafactory in bridgwater in somerset. now, the widely trailed if it the widely trailed deal, if it goes ahead, would amount to the biggest investment in the uk's

automotive sector since nissan arrived in sunderland in the 19805. arrived in sunderland in the 1980s. now, the british government has been in a bidding war with spain to secure the tata investment with the uk understood to have won after promises of subsidies and financial incentives. so now when can we expect the final confirmation for this vital factory? when will it be built ? factory? when will it be built? our economics and business editor liam halligan joins me now with on the money . another now with on the money. another opportunity, another gigafactory, the other one didn't didn't happen. so what about this one? can we can we trust that it might might actually material wise it's a bit of a strange one. nana all week we've been— l g nana all week we've been expecting the announcement, the final confirmation— announcement, the final confirmation that tata, the hetoh— confirmation that tata, the indian steel— confirmation that tata, the indian steel making car making eomgtomerote— indian steel making car making conglomerate that owns jaguar tomo— conglomerate that owns jaguar toht tower— conglomerate that owns jaguar toht tower .— conglomerate that owns jaguar land rover , will— conglomerate that owns jaguar land rover , will be announcing land rover, will be announcing thet— land rover, will be announcing that he— land rover, will be announcing that it's building— land rover, will be announcing that it's building a gigafactory in that it's building a gigafactory th somerset— that it's building a gigafactory in somerset near— that it's building a gigafactory in somerset near the site of the hthettew— in somerset near the site of the new hinckley point— in somerset near the site of the new hinckley point nuclear etottom— new hinckley point nuclear station gigafactories . of station gigafactories. of course, they— station gigafactories. of course, they make the big pottery— course, they make the big pottery eyee— course, they make the big battery eyes that go into

eteetrte— battery eyes that go into electric vehicles . and there's a electric vehicles. and there's a thet— electric vehicles. and there's a sense that unless— electric vehicles. and there's a sense that unless we build the hottertee— sense that unless we build the hottertee th— sense that unless we build the batteries in this— sense that unless we build the batteries in this country, we wont— batteries in this country, we wont huttt— batteries in this country, we won't build cars— batteries in this country, we won't build cars in this country because— won't build cars in this country because-batteries- won't build cars in this country because batteries are heavy because the batteries are heavy .—huttt- because the batteries are heavy .—huttt theml . so you need to build them etoee— . so you need to build them those to— . so you need to build them close to where— . so you need to build them close to where you build the cars. otherwise— close to where you build the cars. otherwise it's uneconomic to—te- cars. otherwise it's uneconomic to—pg ,- cars. otherwise it's uneconomic to—te . oei to transport them. there is, as you— to transport them. there is, as you oe— to transport them. there is, as you up you— to transport them. there is, as you as you suggested, there are etghe— you as you suggested, there are etgm ot— you as you suggested, there are signs of another— you as you suggested, there are signs of another gigafactory hethg— signs of another gigafactory hetmg huttt— signs of another gigafactory hetmg huttt up— signs of another gigafactory being built up in the north—east,- being built up in the north—east, a place near camas, metro—t— north—east, a place near camas, near—of newcastlei near blythe, north of newcastle . wett— near blythe, north of newcastle . wett. twe— near blythe, north of newcastle . well, i've been— near blythe, north of newcastle . well, i've been up there a few ttmee— . well, i've been up there a few ttmee .— . well, i've been up there a few ttmee . thet— . well, i've been up there a few times . that hasn't— . well, i've been up there a few times. that hasn't materialised etther— times. that hasn't materialised etther .— times. that hasn't materialised either . that's— times. that hasn't materialised either . that's why— times. that hasn't materialised either . that's why the british either. that's why the british government— either. that's why the british government - so . either. that's why the british . government - so much government is putting so much emphoete— government is putting so much emphoete oh— government is putting so much emphasis on this— government is putting so much emphasis on this deal. and that-e— emphasis on this deal. and there why— emphasis on this deal. and that's why tata,_ emphasis on this deal. and that's why tata, frankly have got them — that's why tata, frankly have got them over— that's why tata, frankly have got them over a— that's why tata, frankly have got them over a barrel. we can thetr— got them over a barrel. we can see their pictures.— got them over a barrel. we can see their pictures. that's a roto— see their pictures. that's a tote .— see their pictures. that's a tote . a— see their pictures. that's a tote . a tott— see their pictures. that's a tata . a tata makes steel . that's tata. a tata makes steel. that's a tata. a tata makes steel. that's o roto— tata. a tata makes steel. that's o tote ptoht— tata. a tata makes steel. that's ototo ptomt th— tata. a tata makes steel. that's a tata plant in the— tata. a tata makes steel. that's a tata plant in the west wtttohte— a tata plant in the west midlands where they're producing eteet— midlands where they're producing eteet mt— midlands where they're producing steel and other— midlands where they're producing steel and other metals used for her— steel and other metals used for thetr eor— steel and other metals used for their car making— steel and other metals used for their car making in, in the west wtttohte— their car making in, in the west midlands, jaguar,— their car making in, in the west midlands, jaguar, land rover. hut— midlands, jaguar, land rover. hut ureter— midlands, jaguar, land rover. but unless we— midlands, jaguar, land rover. but unless we get this gtgutoetory— but unless we get this gigafactory near hinkley point in bridgwater— gigafactory near hinkley point in bridgwater in— gigafactory near hinkley point in bridgwater in somerset, there-e— in bridgwater in somerset, there's concern— in bridgwater in somerset, there's concern along with mother— there's concern along with another gigafactory up in the mrth—eoet— another gigafactory up in the north—east, that— another gigafactory up in the north—east, that british car motthg— north—east, that british car motmg tuet— north—east, that british car making just won't survive. and of course, british— making just won't survive. and of course, british car making emptoye— of course, british car making emptoye tem— of course, british car making employs tens of— of course, british car making employs tens of thousands of

peopte.— employs tens of thousands of peopte. there-e— employs tens of thousands of people. there's a— employs tens of thousands of people. there's a kind of ideological— people. there's a kind of ideological going on people. there's a kind of- ideological-going on at ideological debate going on at the momem— ideological debate going on at the moment within the conservative - the moment within the conservative party. should the government— conservative party. should the government of government be throwing loads of money— government be throwing loads of money ot— government be throwing loads of money at companies in order to theemttwee— money at companies in order to theemttwee-to— money at companies in order to incentivise to invest? and incentivise them to invest? and i incentivise them to invest? and t gueee— incentivise them to invest? and t guess the— incentivise them to invest? and i guess the sense— incentivise them to invest? and i guess the sense is if they tom-t.— i guess the sense is if they tom-t. them— i guess the sense is if they don't, then other countries will don't, then other countries will to that.— don't, then other countries will to that. them— don't, then other countries will do that, then other countries wttt— do that, then other countries wttt get— do that, then other countries will get those— do that, then other countries will get those factories. so hethg— will get those factories. so hethg ho— will get those factories. so being no doubt, this is a high stakes— being no doubt, this is a high stakes negotiation. people in the tort— stakes negotiation. people in the tort th— stakes negotiation. people in the dark in government have been tettthg— the dark in government have been tettthg me— the dark in government have been tettthg me tt— the dark in government have been telling me it would— the dark in government have been telling me it would be announced this telling me it would be announced the week.— telling me it would be announced this week. well,— telling me it would be announced this week. well, it's— telling me it would be announced this week. well, it's friday ottemooh— this week. well, it's friday afternoon weekend this week. well, it's friday afternoon-weekend almost afternoon. the weekend is almost here.— afternoon. the weekend is almost here. amt— afternoon. the weekend is almost here. me the— afternoon. the weekend is almost here. and the announcement still hem-t— here. and the announcement still hoeh-t teem— here. and the announcement still hasn't been made.— here. and the announcement still hasn't been made. literally hasn't been made. i've literally teem— hasn't been made. i've literally teem-thto— hasn't been made. i've literally been-into the- hasn't been made. i've literally been into the newsroom been i came into the newsroom thre— been i came into the newsroom thte-ththttmg- been i came into the newsroom this-thinking i'd- this morning thinking i'd be about— this morning thinking i'd be trout-oh— this morning thinking i'd be about-onltrain- this morning thinking i'd be about on train and go about to get on a train and go town— about to get on a train and go down-somerset— about to get on a train and go down somerset from central down to somerset from central tohtom— down to somerset from central tohtom-poor- london. oh, you poor thing. toure— london. oh, you poor thing. heue-here.— london. oh, you poor thing. you're-here. but. but,l you're still here. but. but, but. but it hasn't- /r:::rl. ”ti: slll "tzrtz; but, but. but it hasn't happened. v/rzer. ”ti: slll "tzrtz; but, but. but it hasn't happened. so it but. but it hasn't happened. so tt-reotty— but. but it hasn't happened. so tt-reotty ott- but. but it hasn't happened. so it-really odd if- but. but it hasn't happened. so it really odd if this it would be really odd if this rem-t— it would be really odd if this isn't announced— it would be really odd if this isn't announced next week . there isn't announced next week. there mtght— isn't announced next week. there might-speculation- isn't announced next week. there might speculation that might be then speculation that the hrttteh— might be then speculation that the british government actually hem-t— the british government actually hoeh-t puttet— the british government actually hasn't pulled this— the british government actually hasn't pulled this deal off or roto— hasn't pulled this deal off or tote ore— hasn't pulled this deal off or tata are really— hasn't pulled this deal off or tata are really like, you know, tumthg— tata are really like, you know, turmtmg the— tata are really like, you know, turning the screws to get the teet— turning the screws to get the best possible— turning the screws to get the best possible that they can best possible deal that they can in best possible deal that they can th-euhetttee— best possible deal that they can in - subsidies and - best possible deal that they can in subsidies and other in terms of subsidies and other themetot— in terms of subsidies and other financial inducements to invest in financial inducements to invest th the— financial inducements to invest th the country. — financial inducements to invest in this country. _ financial inducements to invest in this country. has any of tho.— in this country. has any of this, you know , because we seem

this, you know, because we seem to be squabbling for investment now, is any of this had been because of the fact that we've left the there any impact left the eu? is there any impact 7 left the eu? is there any impact ? has it had any impact on this at well car making at all? well british car making is great guns. is still going great guns. we're producing more cars is still going great guns. - we're producing more cars than pretty— we're producing more cars than pretty much— we're producing more cars than pretty much phy— we're producing more cars than pretty much any time in our htetory—te- pretty much any time in our. htetory—te-the history. the trouble is that the oompomee— history. the trouble is that the companies-are— history. the trouble is that the companies are producing the companies that are producing the cars, even though— companies that are producing the cars, even though in cars, even though they're in hrttoth— cars, even though they're in britain, they're _ cars, even though they're in britain, they're not actually hrttteh— britain, they're not actually- british—cases. british companies in many cases. so british companies in many cases. so hrttteh— british companies in many cases. so hrttteh eor— british companies in many cases. so british car making was often you mow.— so british car making was often you know, there's— so british car making was often you know, there's a sense that if you know, there's a sense that tt we— you know, there's a sense that tt we reeve— you know, there's a sense that if we leave the— you know, there's a sense that if we leave the eu, it's all going— if we leave the eu, it's all gotmg to— if we leave the eu, it's all going to collapse. and actually, on the— going to collapse. and actually, on the contrary,— going to collapse. and actually, on the contrary, just as many peopte— on the contrary, just as many peopte howe— on the contrary, just as many people have voted or argued for hrextt— people have voted or argued for brexit suggested— people have voted or argued for brexit suggested that the german car makers would _ brexit suggested that the german car makers would be lobbying for sort car makers would be lobbying for port ot— car makers would be lobbying for port ot toe— car makers would be lobbying for sort of lower, you— car makers would be lobbying for sort of lower, you know, reetrtet— sort of lower, you know, restrict options on trade between— restrict options on trade between-and- restrict options on trade between and eu car makers restrict options on trade— between.and eu car makers and between uk and eu car makers and so those— between uk and eu car makers and so on. those german— between uk and eu car makers and so on. those german car makers are so on. those german car makers etortthg— so on. those german car makers are now starting to— so on. those german car makers are now starting to make those orgumemte— are now starting to make those orgumehte. so— are now starting to make those arguments. so car— are now starting to make those arguments. so car making goes on, arguments. so car making goes you— arguments. so car making goes you mow— arguments. so car making goes you know .— arguments. so car making goes on, you know , european based car on, you know, european based car mete— on, you know, european based car tee etttt— on, you know, european based car makers still sell— on, you know, european based car makers still sell a— on, you know, european based car makers still sell a lot more cars here than— makers still sell a lot more cars here than we do sell there. so cars here than we do sell there. so t— cars here than we do sell there. so t tom-t— cars here than we do sell there. so i don't think— cars here than we do sell there. so i don't think there's any thet— so i don't think there's any sense that british car making is going— sense that british car making is gothg to— sense that british car making is gotmg to eme— sense that british car making is going to end because we're outette—

going to end because we're outette-tu— going to end because we're outette-tu .— going to end because we're outside-eu . but- going to end because we're outside eu . but i do think outside the eu. but i do think as we move towards electric wehtetee— as we move towards electric wehtetee eme— as we move towards electric vehicles and of— as we move towards electric vehicles and of course , this vehicles and of course, this the— vehicles and of course, this thte tew— vehicles and of course, this this law-still— vehicles and of course, this this law-still in- vehicles and of course, this this law still in place, this law is still in place, a tew— this law is still in place, a tew whteh— this law is still in place, a law which i— this law is still in place, a law which i actually think will be law which i actually think will he euepemtet— law which i actually think will be suspended, that you can't eett— be suspended, that you can't eett ee— be suspended, that you can't sell cars with— be suspended, that you can't sell cars with petrol and diesel emgtmee— sell cars with petrol and diesel emgtmee. thet— sell cars with petrol and diesel engines. that is— sell cars with petrol and diesel engines. that is new cars. you eett— engines. that is new cars. you eett ueet— engines. that is new cars. you can sell used cars,— engines. that is new cars. you can sell used cars, but you eem-t— can sell used cars, but you eeh-t eett— can sell used cars, but you can't sell cars,— can sell used cars, but you can't sell cars, new cars with petrot— can't sell cars, new cars with petrot emt — can't sell cars, new cars with petrol and diesel— can't sell cars, new cars with petrol and diesel engines . after petrol and diesel engines. after eoee— petrol and diesel engines. after zooo. the— petrol and diesel engines. after 2030, the european joins the eu. they-we— 2030, the european joins the eu. they-we etreety— 2030, the european joins the eu. they've already pushed that back to zoos. — they've already pushed that back to zoos. t— they've already pushed that back to 2035. i think— they've already pushed that back to 2035. i think that's oomptetety- to 2035. i think that's completely unrealistic. the government— completely unrealistic. the government wants to suggest that it government wants to suggest that tt hem-t— government wants to suggest that it isn't because— government wants to suggest that it isn't because it— government wants to suggest that it isn't because it wants to eheourege—thl encourage investment in gtgeteetortee— encourage investment in gigafactories producing batteries— gigafactories producing batteries .— gigafactories producing batteries . but a lot of the batteries. but a lot of the hweeoret— batteries. but a lot of the investors in— batteries. but a lot of the investors in giga factories, they— investors in giga factories, they eey— investors in giga factories, they eey. wett— investors in giga factories, they say, well, look, britain , they say, well, look, britain, you— they say, well, look, britain, you reetty— they say, well, look, britain, are you really serious about three— are you really serious about this? there's— are you really serious about this? there's you know, there's etttt— this? there's you know, there's etttt e— this? there's you know, there's etttt e teet— this? there's you know, there's still a lack of— this? there's you know, there's still a lack of charging infrastructure, many of my infrastructure, as many of my theme— infrastructure, as many of my trtemte wtth— infrastructure, as many of my friends with electric cars, i hewem-t— friends with electric cars, i haven't-the - friends with electric cars, i haven't the plunge yet. i haven't taken the plunge yet. i tom-t— haven't taken the plunge yet. i tom-t thow— haven't taken the plunge yet. i don't know about— haven't taken the plunge yet. i don't know about you. i won't do it don't know about you. i won't do tt-t-m— don't know about you. i won't do tt-t-m trtwmg— don't know about you. i won't do it-i'm drivinglreally- don't know about you. i won't do it-i'm drivinglreally oldl it now. i'm driving a really old citroen about citroen c1 that's done about 180,000 love it. i 180,000 miles. i love it. i think. i think a lot of- 80 000 l i think. i think a lot of people teet— think. i think a lot of people teet-wey. — think. i think a lot of people teet-wey. _why- think. i think a lot of people. feel-way. _why should feel that way. nana why should they— feel that way. nana why should they he— feel that way. nana why should they be _electric- feel that way. nana why should they be electric cars they be buying electric cars when—very- when they're very, very epee— when they're very, veryi expensive _you when they're very, very- expensive _you know , expensive and also, you know, when— expensive and also, you know, when you— expensive and also, you know, when you tt— expensive and also, you know, when you tr you— expensive and also, you know, when you if you need to go quite

a when you if you need to go quite e tohg— when you if you need to go quite e tomg wey— when you if you need to go quite e tomg wey eme— when you if you need to go quite a long way and you— when you if you need to go quite a long way and you get to the ewe— a long way and you get to the service station— a long way and you get to the service station and you've got to-egee— service station and you've got to-egee to— service station and you've got to-egee to get— service station and you've got to-ages to get in- service station and you've got to ages to get in queue to wait ages to get in the queue to wait ages to get in the queue to—there-e— to wait ages to get in the queue to_there's this- to wait ages to get in the queue to _there's this sort. to charge. so there's this sort of to charge. so there's this sort ot rehge— to charge. so there's this sort of range anxiety— to charge. so there's this sort of range anxiety going on. so i tom-t— of range anxiety going on. so i don't necessarily— of range anxiety going on. so i don't necessarily think that eteetrte— don't necessarily think that electric vehicles are the, you mow.— electric vehicles are the, you mow. the — electric vehicles are the, you know, the shining city on the httt— know, the shining city on the httt thet— know, the shining city on the hill that they're _ know, the shining city on the hill that they're often portreyet— hill that they're often portrayed to - hill that they're often portrayed to be. though i do ththt— portrayed to be. though i do ththt we— portrayed to be. though i do think we need— portrayed to be. though i do think we need to— portrayed to be. though i do think we need to gradually wean ourselves off— think we need to gradually wean ourselves off fossil— think we need to gradually wean ourselves off fossil fuels . and ourselves off fossil fuels. and thet— ourselves off fossil fuels. and thet eehee— ourselves off fossil fuels. and that sense that— ourselves off fossil fuels. and that sense that maybe evs aren't eweryththg— that sense that maybe evs aren't ewerythmg they-we— that sense that maybe evs aren't everything they've cracked up to be. everything they've cracked up to be r— everything they've cracked up to be r ththt— everything they've cracked up to be. i think that's— everything they've cracked up to be. i think that's part of the reason governments acas reason why governments acas erouht—reettyl around the world are really hewhg— around the world are really having-heavily- around the world are really having heavily incentivise having to heavily incentivise eompee— having to heavily incentivise eompee to— having to heavily incentivise companies to invest in these gtgeteetortee— companies to invest in these gigafactories in— companies to invest in these gigafactories in america , the gigafactories in america, the they-we — gigafactories in america, the they-we got— gigafactories in america, the they've got this— gigafactories in america, the they've got this thing, the thttettoh — they've got this thing, the inflation _act. i they've got this thing, the- inflation _act. they're inflation reduction act. they're throwtmg— inflation reduction act. they're throwing-billions- inflation reduction act. they're throwing billions of throwing tens of billions of tottere— throwing tens of billions of dollars companies to invest dollars at companies to invest in dollars at companies to invest th eteetrte— dollars at companies to invest in electric vehicle _ dollars at companies to invest in electric vehicle plant and all in electric vehicle plant and ett thee— in electric vehicle plant and all kinds of— in electric vehicle plant and all kinds of other so—called green— all kinds of other so—called green investments. and in the eu too.— green investments. and in the eu too. the— green investments. and in the eu too. amt gweh— green investments. and in the eu too. and given that— green investments. and in the eu too. and given that the british government— too. and given that the british government feels— too. and given that the british government feels whatever the tteotogteet— government feels whatever the ideological concerns it may have ehout— ideological concerns it may have about chucking— ideological concerns it may have about chucking loads of money at huetmeee— about chucking loads of money at huetheee eme— about chucking loads of money at business and picking winners in the ott— business and picking winners in the ott eort— business and picking winners in the old sort of— business and picking winners in the old sort of 1970s phrase and not the old sort of 1970s phrase and hot ettowtmg— the old sort of1970s phrase and not allowing the— the old sort of 1970s phrase and not allowing the free market to do not allowing the free market to to te— not allowing the free market to to tte ththg— not allowing the free market to to tte ththg .— not allowing the free market to to tte ththg . t— not allowing the free market to do its thing . i think the

do its thing. i think the hrttteh— do its thing. i think the british government feels mthtetere— british government feels ministers feel- british government feels ministers feel i've talked to tote— ministers feel i've talked to tote ot— ministers feel i've talked to lots of them— ministers feel i've talked to lots of them about this unless they— lots of them about this unless they-th— lots of them about this unless they-h there— lots of them about this unless they-in there and- lots of them about this unless they in there and start they get in there and start heeteetty— they get in there and start- basically—taxpayer basically giving away taxpayer money— basically giving away taxpayer money eme— basically giving away taxpayer money and subsidies to these prottt— money and subsidies to these prottt metmg— money and subsidies to these profit making companies, then we wont— profit making companies, then we wont get— profit making companies, then we woh-t get the— profit making companies, then we won't get the investments that we meet. — won't get the investments that we meet. amt — won't get the investments that we need. and gigafact cary we need. and that gigafact cary in we need. and that gigafact cary th somereet— we need. and that gigafact cary in somerset is— we need. and that gigafact cary in somerset is 9000 well—paid tote— in somerset is 9000 well—paid tohe .— in somerset is 9000 well—paid tote . heme— in somerset is 9000 well—paid tote . wehe so— in somerset is 9000 well—paid jobs. nana so ministers will be upeet— jobs. nana so ministers will be upeet tt— jobs. nana so ministers will be upeet tt thre— jobs. nana so ministers will be upset if this deal— jobs. nana so ministers will be upset if this deal doesn't eetuetty— upset if this deal doesn't actually come— upset if this deal doesn't actually come off. i'm not eeytmg— actually come off. i'm not eeythg yet— actually come off. i'm not saying yet it's— actually come off. i'm not saying yet it's not coming off. t-m — saying yet it's not coming off. t-m hot— saying yet it's not coming off. t-m mot eeytmg— saying yet it's not coming off. i'm not saying yet that actually the spehteh— i'm not saying yet that actually the spanish have— i'm not saying yet that actually the spanish have done a counter—bid— the spanish have done a counter—bid and it's going counter—bid and it's not going to—ut.— counter—bid and it's not going to—utlthtel to come to the uk. but this tetey— to come to the uk. but thisi tetey—mert to come to the uk. but this- tetey—mert the delay, i thought we'd mark the eme— delay, i thought we'd mark the eht-weet— delay, i thought we'd mark the end _week without- delay, i thought we'd mark the end week without that end of this week without that announcement. _ end of this week without that announcement. is end of this week without thati announcement._is a announcement. this delay is a ttttte— announcement. this delay is a ttttte pp— announcement. this delay is a little bit alarming— announcement. this delay is a little bit alarming . yeah, well, little bit alarming. yeah, well, wett— little bit alarming. yeah, well, we'll hopefully— little bit alarming. yeah, well, we'll hopefully next week you'll be we'll hopefully next week you'll he gtwhg— we'll hopefully next week you'll he gtwmg ue— we'll hopefully next week you'll be giving us some— we'll hopefully next week you'll be giving us some news, even meyhe— be giving us some news, even meyhe teter— be giving us some news, even meyhe teter om— be giving us some news, even maybe later on today. liam, theht— maybe later on today. liam, meet-very— maybe later on today. liam, thank very much . that's liam thank you very much. that's liam halligan, our business and economics in a few economics editor. now, in a few minutes time, i'll be joined by one of just bill's biggest backers and ask is he in bed backers and ask him is he in bed with keir starmer and nana with sir keir starmer and nana akua? is gb news. we're akua? this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. keep all your messages coming as well. gb views gb news .com . you can also views gb news .com. you can also tweet me at gb news. don't

forget as well. i'm here tomorrow to the first of six. that's my show. i'm doing a sneaky well, sneaky plug. i might as well, but we'll be speaking to dale. vince you may have heard about him. incredible vince you may have heard about him. energy incredible vince you may have heard about him. energy company. :redible vince you may have heard about him. energy company. he'sile vince you may have heard about him. energy company. he's been green energy company. he's been in the business for quite some time . and we'll getting his time. and we'll be getting his thoughts on this whole issue. he's one the for the he's one of the donors for the labour he's giving them he's one of the donors for the lab0la he's giving them he's one of the donors for the lab0la overz's giving them he's one of the donors for the lab0la over time. ing them he's one of the donors for the lab0la over time. welliem he's one of the donors for the lab0la over time. well here quite a bit over time. well here are your thoughts as well. keep them this is gb news. we them coming this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'll see of moments. see you in a couple of moments. time hello . it's another fine time hello. it's another fine pteture— time hello. it's another fine picture across— time hello. it's another fine picture across the _ time hello. it's another fine picture across the uk- it's another fine picture across the uk on friday wtth— picture across the uk on friday wtth-ot— picture across the uk on friday with-of sunshine- picture across the uk on friday with of sunshine to come with lots of sunshine to come ome-thet- with lots of sunshine to come once-that fine- with lots of sunshine to come. once _that fine weather once again and that fine weather toote— once again and that fine weather tooteito— once again and that fine weather looks-to continue— once again and that fine weather looks to continue throughout looks set to continue throughout this looks set to continue throughout thte-steythg- looks set to continue throughout this-staying-lotsl this weekend. staying dry. lots of this weekend. staying dry. lots ot—eett.- this weekend. staying dry. lots ot—eett. hutl of sunshine, like i said, but there—tow- of sunshine, like i said, but. there—low cloud there will be some low cloud towerte— there will be some low cloud towerte the— there will be some low cloud towards the far— there will be some low cloud towards the far east. times. towards the far east. at times. all towards the far east. at times. ah the— towards the far east. at times. all this settled— towards the far east. at times. all this settled weather is hetmg— all this settled weather is being-around- being brought around by this ereelhtgh— being brought around by this area high pressure still area of high pressure still eemtret— area of high pressure still centred towards north—west centred towards the north—west of centred towards the north—west ot-eouhtry. — centred towards the north—west of-country. .with - centred towards the north—west of country. with winds centred towards the north—west of cclockwise, with winds centred towards the north—west of cclockwise, that's winds coming clockwise, that's still at coming clockwise, that's still et-hrthgtmg— coming clockwise, that's still at bringing quite a lot at times bringing quite a lot of etout— at times bringing quite a lot of etout-eome— at times bringing quite a lot of cloud some eastern cloud across some eastern eoeetet— cloud across some eastern eoeetet perte— cloud across some eastern coastal parts. but back to the pteture— coastal parts. but back to the picture through— coastal parts. but back to the picture through rest of the picture through the rest of the rrttey— picture through the rest of the rrttey-ewehhg- picture through the rest of the friday evening and friday into the evening and owemtght— friday into the evening and owemtght-try- friday into the evening and overnight, dry weather overnight, lots of dry weather. across _clearest across the country. the clearest of across the country. the clearest ot-towerte- across the country. the clearest of-towards the - across the country. the clearest of towards the west, of the sky is towards the west, hut— of the sky is towards the west, hut-eee —

of the sky is towards the west,i but-see-cloud but we will see some low cloud tttterthg— but we will see some low cloud tttterthg-perte- but we will see some low cloud filtering-parts of- filtering in across parts of thgteht— filtering in across parts of. england _through england and wales through the mtght— england and wales through the mtght wtth— england and wales through the mtght wtth r— england and wales through the night with 1-mist- england and wales through the night with 1 mist and fog night with 1 or 2 mist and fog petehee— night with 1 or 2 mist and fog peteheelwett— night with 1 or 2 mist and fog patches-well .— night with 1 or 2 mist and fog patches well . but under patches as well. but under those tergety—egetml largely clear skies, once again , it largely clear skies, once again . tt wtt— largely clear skies, once again . tt wttt tum— largely clear skies, once again , it will turn chilly. , it will turn quite chilly. temperatures— , it will turn quite chilly. temperatures falling temperatures widely falling into ethgte—towhel single figures, even in towns eme— single figures, even in towns emt etttee. — single figures, even in towns and cities. but— single figures, even in towns and cities. but in— single figures, even in towns and cities. but in some rural epote— and cities. but in some rural epote we— and cities. but in some rural spots we could— and cities. but in some rural spots we could see places tettthg— spots we could see places falling _close- spots we could see places falling _close to - falling fairly close to treezthg. — falling fairly close to- freezing, _ across freezing, particularly across horthem— freezing, particularly across. northern—hut northern parts of england. but we-ott— northern parts of england. but we-ottle— northern parts of england. but we-ottle try— northern parts of england. but we-offla dry fine- northern parts of england. but we off a dry fine and we got off to a dry fine and eumy— we got off to a dry fine and eummy etert— we got off to a dry fine and sunny start for— we got off to a dry fine and sunny start for many us on sunny start for many of us on eeturtey— sunny start for many of us on saturday morning. start saturday morning. a fine start to the— saturday morning. a fine start to the weekend. _ saturday morning. a fine start to the weekend. any should to the weekend. any cloud should gutetty— quickly lift out and that will teete— quickly lift out and that will leave—across. quickly lift out and that will. leave _ across the leave a fine picture across the poem.— leave a fine picture across the board. _decent- leave a fine picture across the board.-decent day- board. a really decent day the— board. a really decent day across the country, but there wttt— across the country, but there wttt-more- across the country, but there will - more cloud - across the country, but there will more cloud across will be a bit more cloud across the—ot- will be a bit more cloud across the—of scotlandi the very far north of scotland through— the very far north of scotland through _even. the very far north of scotland. through _even here, through the day. but even here, it through the day. but even here, “_dry— through the day. but even here, n—dry ,— through the day. but even here, n—dry , probably- it should stay dry, probably less—of- it should stay dry, probably less—of cloud. it should stay dry, probably. less—of cloud down less in the way of cloud down that— less in the way of cloud down that east— less in the way of cloud down that east coast.— less in the way of cloud down that east coast. still quite breezy— that east coast. still quite breezy_south,| that east coast. still quite. breezy—south, but that east coast. still quite- breezy_south, but in breezy towards the south, but in that— breezy towards the south, but in that sunshine _ breezy towards the south, but in that sunshine feeling it that sunshine feeling warm, if anything—mi anything warmer than that on friday.— friday. so we're looking at highs— friday. so we're looking at highs-za— friday. so we're looking at highs 23 degrees, probably highs 21 to 23 degrees, probably watmet— highs 21 to 23 degrees, probably warmest towards— highs 21 to 23 degrees, probably warmest towards the west. so the test— warmest towards the west. so the test tt— warmest towards the west. so the rest of saturday— warmest towards the west. so the rest of saturday evening and overntgtt— rest of saturday evening and overnight,-little- rest of saturday evening and overnight, little change, overnight, very little change, tettty— overnight, very little change, teeny-try. — overnight, very little change, teeny-try. we- overnight, very little change, really dry. we will really staying dry. we will start— really staying dry. we will start to— really staying dry. we will start to see _ really staying dry. we will start to see some low cloud, though,— start to see some low cloud, though-trom- start to see some low cloud, though,-from the. start to see some low cloud, though, from the north though, filtering from the north sea across-central- sea across many central and aeemet— sea across many central and eastern-england- sea across many central and eastern england into eastern parts of england into aeemet— eastern parts of england into eastern scotland— eastern parts of england into eastern scotland the eastern scotland as well. the tatter— eastern scotland as well. the further towards _ eastern scotland as well. the further towards west, again, eastern scotland as well. the furtheskiesards west, again, eastern scotland as well. the furtheskies under west, again, eastern scotland as well. the furtheskies under thoset, again, eastern scotland as well. the furtheskies under those clear in, clear skies under those clear ettee— clear skies under those clear ettee tamtae— clear skies under those clear skies turning chilly , skies turning fairly chilly, temperatures—

skies turning fairly chilly, temperatures falling once again into temperatures falling once again tata etaete— temperatures falling once again into single figures. 1 or 2 mist ant— into single figures. 1 or 2 mist ant tee— into single figures. 1 or 2 mist and fog patches— into single figures. 1 or 2 mist and fog patches .— into single figures. 1 or 2 mist and fog patches . as for sunday, and fog patches. as for sunday, thea— and fog patches. as for sunday, ttea mee— and fog patches. as for sunday, ttea et— and fog patches. as for sunday, then more of the— and fog patches. as for sunday, then more of the same. once agate,— then more of the same. once .g..., we— then more of the same. once .g..., we eee— then more of the same. once again, we see quite a cloudy stat— again, we see quite a cloudy etatt aeeee— again, we see quite a cloudy start across many— again, we see quite a cloudy start across many central and aeemet— start across many central and aeemet patte— start across many central and eastern parts of— start across many central and eastern parts of england and semant— eastern parts of england and scotland,_but- scotland, like i said. but through— scotland, like i said. buti through _that scotland, like i said. but- through _that cloud through the morning that cloud really— through the morning that cloud teatty—te- through the morning that cloud teatty—te tte- really burning back to the tmmettate— immediate coastline elsewhere, tentat— immediate coastline elsewhere, central western _ immediate coastline elsewhere, central western parts again, tee.— central western parts again, ttae. tete— central western parts again, ttae. tete et— central western parts again, fine. lots of sunshine, sunshine to fine. lots of sunshine, sunshine tea-teenag— fine. lots of sunshine, sunshine to _feeling warm. - fine. lots of sunshine, sunshine to-feeling warm. it. to come and feeling warm. it staye— to come and feeling warm. it etaye try— to come and feeling warm. it stays dry through the rest of the— stays dry through the rest of the weekend— stays dry through the rest of the weekend into the early part of the weekend into the early part at next— the weekend into the early part at next week. — the weekend into the early part of next week. lots— the weekend into the early part of next week. lots of sunshine to come and if anything, ettgttty— to come and if anything, ettgttty-tte- to come and if anything, slightly _the co slightly warmer, the dewbs& co we-tte— slightly warmer, the dewbs& co we-tte teeaee— slightly warmer, the dewbs& co we _the issues of - slightly warmer, the dewbs& co we the issues of day we tackle the issues of the day wttt — we tackle the issues of the day wttt teat— we tackle the issues of the day with real robust— we tackle the issues of the day with real robust debate. both attes— with real robust debate. both states at— with real robust debate. both sttes at the— with real robust debate. both sides of the fence— with real robust debate. both sides of the fence battling it out with me in the middle with my and views my forthright opinions and views and often really interesting things happen because you start with position and then by the with a position and then by the end of the debate you find actually have actually i might not have thought one. we thought about that one. what we needin thought about that one. what we need in this country is two new political need in this country is two new politicéthink about doing 2024 maybe think about doing a 2024 calendar michelle dewberry and i'm company right i'm keeping you company right through evening. through until 7:00 this evening. gb news is the people's channel. britain's watching .

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covid lockdown— became radicalised during the covid lockdown . ti; 3: covid lockdown. he pleaded guilty to plotting the attacks between 2021 and 2022. his plans to travel to syria to join the so—called islamic state were stopped when his mother reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism programme. the home secretary is being asked to urgently clarify why a group of asylum seekers were left on the streets of london for two nights. in a letter to suella braverman, the leader of westminster city council expressed deep concern that around 40 refugees were left in the borough on wednesday night without appropriate accommodation. the group reportedly refused to enter a hotel where the home office had allegedly asked them to sleep four per room. around 20 people have been protesting outside that hotel this afternoon . boris that hotel this afternoon. boris johnson says he sent all unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry. the former prime minister told the inquiry's chair he would

like to do the same with messages on an old phone he stopped using due to security concerns. it's after the government argued it shouldn't have to hand over what it calls irrelevant material. ministers are preparing for a legal battle with the inquiry. a preliminary heanng with the inquiry. a preliminary hearing will be held on tuesday . phillip schofield nield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague. at this morning. but he insists he didn't groom him. the 61 year old resigned from itv last week and was dropped by his agency after admitting to the affair and says he'll comply with an external review commissioned by the broadcaster . itv executives the broadcaster. itv executives have been told to expect questions about their approach to safeguarding when they appear before a parliamentary committee next week. in his first interview since leaving itv , interview since leaving itv, schofield has hit out at what he described as relentless criticism and told the bbc he feels broken and ashamed and

sorry . feels broken and ashamed and sorry. i feels broken and ashamed and sorry . i have lost everything . sorry. i have lost everything. my— sorry. i have lost everything. my mats— sorry. i have lost everything. my tttts sawet— sorry. i have lost everything. my girls saved my- i have lost everything. my girls saved my life. if my stats— my girls saved my life. if my tttts tata-t— my girls saved my life. if my girls hadn't been— my girls saved my life. if my girls hadn't been there, i wewtta-t— girls hadn't been there, i wouldn't be— girls hadn't been there, i wouldn't be here because i'd tea-t— wouldn't be here because i'd tam-t see— wouldn't be here because i'd tam-t a— wouldn't be here because i'd don't see a future for. and so taw— don't see a future for. and so how mast— don't see a future for. and so how mast te— don't see a future for. and so how much do you— don't see a future for. and so how much do you want a man to tame— how much do you want a man to take? amt— how much do you want a man to take? mt ae— how much do you want a man to take? and are you— how much do you want a man to take? and are you truly only happy— take? and are you truly only happy when— take? and are you truly only happy when he's dead ? and this happy when he's dead? and this is happy when he's dead? and this ts taw— happy when he's dead? and this is how caroline— happy when he's dead? and this is how caroline flack felt . and is how caroline flack felt. and it is how caroline flack felt. and tt ttta-t— is how caroline flack felt. and tt tttmt step— is how caroline flack felt. and it didn't stop dame elan. closs stamens— it didn't stop dame elan. closs steptem tas— it didn't stop dame elan. closs stephens has been— it didn't stop dame elan. closs stephens has been appointed as acting chair of the bbc . the acting chair of the bbc. the government announced she'll lead the bbc board for 12 months or until a new permanent chair has been appointed . dame ellen has been appointed. dame ellen has been appointed. dame ellen has been appointed. dame ellen has been a member of the bbc's governing body since 2010. it's after richard sharp resigned following a report which found he breached the governance code

for public appointments . rail for public appointments. rail passengers are expecting their second day of major disruption this week as 20,000 staff go on strike. members of the rmt union across england are walking out in an ongoing dispute over pay jobs and conditions. members of the aslef union who work across 16 train operating companies will also go on strike tomorrow . passengers are being warned to expect severely reduced services . a blood test that can detect more than 50 different types of cancer has shown promise in a trial involving thousands of nhs patients. the gallery test correct correctly revealed cancer 66% of the time during the trial. it's also been able to pinpoint where in the body the disease is. with 85% accuracy. the test, which is currently available in the us , currently available in the us, doesn't detect all cancers and won't replace nhs screening

programmes . and managerjose programmes. and manager jose mourinho has been charged with insulting and abusing a match. official he was filmed shouting at a referee following acas roma's loss to sevilla on wednesday night's europa league final. the premier league has condemned the abuse directed at the referee, anthony taylor. after footage emerged of angry fans heckling him at budapest airport. a premier league spokesperson described the abuse as both shocking and appalling . as both shocking and appalling. you're up to date on gb news now it's back to nana . it's back to nana. good afternoon. it's back to nana.- . good afternoon. if it's back to nana.— - good afternoon. if you're just good afternoon. if you're just tuned - good afternoon. if you're just tweet-tast— - good afternoon. if you're just tuned-fast approaching.- tuned in, it's fast approaching. seven— tuned in, it's fast approaching. seven minutes— tuned in, it's fast approaching. seven minutes after 4:00. this is seven minutes after 4:00. this ts et— seven minutes after 4:00. this ts at news.— seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we— seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's ctamet— is gb news. we are the people's ctamet. t-m— is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm-akua.- is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm akua. now channel. i'm nana akua. now wett— channel. i'm nana akua. now we-tt-tte— channel. i'm nana akua. now we'll-the latest- channel. i'm nana akua. now we'll the latest on boris we'll get the latest on boris temsems— we'll get the latest on boris. johnson's-messages

johnson's whatsapp messages shortw— johnson's whatsapp messages stetttw tat— johnson's whatsapp messages smatttw twt we— johnson's whatsapp messages shortly, but we start this out wttt — shortly, but we start this out with another— shortly, but we start this out with another controversial story . tatew— with another controversial story . tatew ae— with another controversial story . labour are facing— with another controversial story . labour are facing calls to tewtm— . labour are facing calls to return around— . labour are facing calls to return around £15 million in teaattems— return around £15 million in donations for— return around £15 million in donations for one of just stop ett-s— donations for one of just stop ott-s ttttest— donations for one of just stop oil's biggest backers . donations for one of just stop oil's biggest backers. now donations for one of just stop oil's biggest backers . now the oil's biggest backers. now the eco activists— oil's biggest backers. now the eco activists have— oil's biggest backers. now the eco activists have been causing ttsmpttea— eco activists have been causing ttsmpttem agate— eco activists have been causing disruption again today and this ttme— disruption again today and this ttme awt— disruption again today and this time around, 40— disruption again today and this time around, 40 protesters held up time around, 40 protesters held wp tatte— time around, 40 protesters held at ttattte m— time around, 40 protesters held up traffic in north— time around, 40 protesters held up traffic in north and west tantam— up traffic in north and west teatem sta— up traffic in north and west london. sir keir— up traffic in north and west london. sir keir starmer has teem— london. sir keir starmer has been accused— london. sir keir starmer has been accused of— london. sir keir starmer has been accused of being in bed wttt— been accused of being in bed wttt tast— been accused of being in bed wttt test at.— been accused of being in bed with just oil. and— been accused of being in bed with just oil. and that's teawse— with just oil. and that's because the— with just oil. and that's because the businessman dale wate— because the businessman dale vmee, wtt— because the businessman dale vmee, who gave— because the businessman dale vince, who gave the money to tateww — vince, who gave the money to tateww atse— vince, who gave the money to labour, also supports the pretest— labour, also supports the pretest treat.— labour, also supports the protest group. dale owns the green— protest group. dale owns the green tmertw— protest group. dale owns the green energy company ecotricity, and green energy company ecotricity, amt rm— green energy company ecotricity, and i'm delighted— green energy company ecotricity, and i'm delighted to say that he rams— and i'm delighted to say that he tems me— and i'm delighted to say that he terns me new— and i'm delighted to say that he joins me now. dale, thank you so must— joins me now. dale, thank you so mean ter— joins me now. dale, thank you so mwen ter tetntnt— joins me now. dale, thank you so much forjoining me. joins me now. dale, thank you so much forjoining me . now, dale, much forjoining me. now, dale, i much forjoining me. now, dale, rwant— much forjoining me. now, dale, r want te— much forjoining me. now, dale, r want te start— much forjoining me. now, dale, i want to start with— much forjoining me. now, dale, i want to start with football teawse et— i want to start with football because, of course, just stop. ett— because, of course, just stop. on may— because, of course, just stop. on may wett— because, of course, just stop. on may wett te— because, of course, just stop. oil may well go on the pitch tomorrow. we— oil may well go on the pitch tomorrow. we know it's the fa cup— tomorrow. we know it's the fa can ttnat. — tomorrow. we know it's the fa cup ttnat. rew— tomorrow. we know it's the fa cup final. you are— tomorrow. we know it's the fa cup final. you are a big teettatt— cup final. you are a big football fan— cup final. you are a big football fan as you've got your retest— football fan as you've got your own forest green— football fan as you've got your own forest green rovers. what are own forest green rovers. what wear— own forest green rovers. what are your thoughts— own forest green rovers. what are your thoughts if you know, do are your thoughts if you know, te wea— are your thoughts if you know, te wew stttt— are your thoughts if you know, do you still back— are your thoughts if you know, do you still back them for doing tntnts— do you still back them for doing tntnts ute— do you still back them for doing things like that— do you still back them for doing things like that ,— do you still back them for doing things like that , even despite things like that, even despite the things like that, even despite tne tast— things like that, even despite the fact that— things like that, even despite the fact that you— things like that, even despite the fact that you yourself are semetetw— the fact that you yourself are somebody obviously into

somebody who is obviously into teettatt— somebody who is obviously into teettatt e— somebody who is obviously into football ? yeah.— somebody who is obviously into football ? yeah. do you know this football? yeah. do you know this twestten— football? yeah. do you know this twestten nas— football? yeah. do you know this question has been— football? yeah. do you know this question has been around for a, wee— question has been around for a, wee mew,— question has been around for a, you know, probably a year or so se— you know, probably a year or so tast— you know, probably a year or so twst sten— you know, probably a year or so since just stop oil— you know, probably a year or so since just stop oil began teawse— since just stop oil began tease r— since just stop oil began because i think very first thing tnew— because i think very first thing met at— because i think very first thing tnew ttt was— because i think very first thing they did was disrupt premier they did was disrupt the premier teatwe— they did was disrupt the premier. teatwe—tnem league game and had given them twnttnt— league game and had given them twnttnt te— league game and had given them twnttnt te tet— league game and had given them funding to get themselves and funding to get themselves up and rwnntnt— funding to get themselves up and rwnntnt ,— funding to get themselves up and rwnntng , tttn-t— funding to get themselves up and running , didn't know what they running, didn't know what they etanntnt— running, didn't know what they were planning and i was asked tnts— were planning and i was asked tnts twestten— were planning and i was asked this question talksport , this question on talksport, teen— this question on talksport, teew r— this question on talksport, teew r-wnat- this question on talksport, look, i what they do look, i support what they do teawse— look, i support what they do because bringing because they're bringing attentten— because they're bringing attention to— because they're bringing attention to a- because they're bringing attention to a really important we— attention to a really important issue. we can't— attention to a really important issue. ash; cr?" c : attention to a really important issue. �*ft�*rz; rt:" c : attention to a really important issue. cr?" : : issue. we can't afford to be drilling for oil and gas in the nonh drilling for oil and gas in the north we know that north sea. we know that the science know, science tells that, you know, the un tells us that the international energy agency are very that . but our very clear on that. but our government going ahead and government are going ahead and doing claiming it doing it anyway, claiming it will lower bills, will help lower energy bills, which can't . and which it won't. it can't. and so, you know, i support what they're doing . they they're doing. they are disruptive. they upset disruptive. i know they upset some i think what some people. but i think what they're doing effective is they're doing is effective is bringing attention to this vital issue because climate crisis issue because the climate crisis issue because the climate crisis is coming . issue because the climate crisis is coming. it's issue because the climate crisis is coming . it's here now, in is coming. it's here now, in fact. and you know, we can't afford to burn more fossil fuels, so we can't afford to go looking look , i looking for more. now, look, i mean, look, i think a lot of

people do actually, in generally agree with the kind of aims of just stop oil. i don't disagree tnat— just stop oil. i don't disagree tnat we— just stop oil. i don't disagree tnat we met— just stop oil. i don't disagree that we need to— just stop oil. i don't disagree that we need to try- o c i don't disagree that we need to try and find renewatte— that we need to try and find renewable sources of energy. i'll renewable sources of energy. ttt-mem— renewable sources of energy. i'll-them that- renewable sources of energy. i'll-them that .- renewable sources of energy. i'll them that . it's the i'll give them that. it's the way—about. i'll give them that. it's the- way—aboutlthat way they're going about it that i way they're going about it that r-ttnt— way they're going about it that r-ttnt a— way they're going about it that r-ttnt a ttt— way they're going about it that i find a bit distasteful. i just find a bit distasteful. eat— i just find a bit distasteful. eat-eewtt— i just find a bit distasteful. but could argue but people could argue that wen-re— but people could argue that wen-relen— but people could argue that you're big you've been given you're a big you've been given tatte— you're a big you've been given tatte a— you're a big you've been given twtte a ttt— you're a big you've been given twtte a ttt et— you're a big you've been given quite a bit of money to the tatewr— quite a bit of money to the labour—couldi quite a bit of money to the- labour_could argue labour party. people could argue tnat— labour party. people could argue mat—te- that actually you stand to tenettt— that actually you stand to benefit - lot. - that actually you stand to. benefit-lot. imean, benefit quite a lot. i mean, wen-we— you've got your own charging eemeanw— you've got your own charging eemeanw ,— you've got your own charging eemeanw , wen-we— you've got your own charging company , you've got obviously company, you've got obviously wear— company, you've got obviously wewr wen-e— company, you've got obviously your you've been— company, you've got obviously your you've been your wind twrttne— your you've been your wind turbine company , you are going turbine company, you are going to turbine company, you are going te te— turbine company, you are going te be a— turbine company, you are going te be a ttt— turbine company, you are going to be a big beneficiary of any tewemment— to be a big beneficiary of any government pushes the whole government that pushes the whole green— government that pushes the whole green energy— government that pushes the whole green energy ideology . dodi well green energy ideology. dodi well , wett— green energy ideology. dodi well , wew wea— green energy ideology. dodi well , wew wew mew,— green energy ideology. dodi well , well, you know, i— green energy ideology. dodi well , well, you know, i mean, people are , well, you know, i mean, people sawtnt— , well, you know, i mean, people sawtnt teen— , well, you know, i mean, people are saying been saying that to me ter— are saying been saying that to me ter ute— are saying been saying that to me for like 25— are saying been saying that to me for like 25 years since i've teen— me for like 25 years since i've teen tn— me for like 25 years since i've been in renewable— me for like 25 years since i've been in renewable energy. /r:::r. been in renewable energy. you knew.— been in renewable energy. you knew. we— been in renewable energy. you know, we formed— been in renewable energy. you know, we formed the- been in renewable energy. you know, we formed the world's first company, first green energy company, ecotricity, 1995. people ecotricity, in 1995. and people say but think it's a say that. but i think it's a very very lazy approach very it's a very lazy approach to life to just accuse somebody of being self—interest because they campaigned for something that they also work in. i do that they also work in. i do that because i believe in it very much, and i tried to sell ecotricity last year because i knew that in the coming election

this would be an issue . i don't this would be an issue. i don't stand benefit greatly from a stand to benefit greatly from a green government. i don't intend to. i don't wish to, and i simply support labour because i feel we need a new government. we need a green government. the tories have had 13 years and they've been disaster not just they've been a disaster not just for climate but economy for the climate but our economy . schools, cost of living, poverty in our country, everything and i'm going to do everything and i'm going to do everything i can to help them win the election. and i don't everything i can to help them win tanythingtn. and i don't everything i can to help them win tanything forand i don't everything i can to help them win tanything foraicertainly everything i can to help them win t wanting foraicertainly everything i can to help them win t want tol foraicertainly everything i can to help them win t want to benefitertainly everything i can to help them win t want to benefit in ainly don't want to benefit in any business now you say that business sense. now you say that we can't we can't afford not to go green, get these renewable sources. but a lot of people went— sources. but a lot of people wewtt saw— sources. but a lot of people would say that— ”rtrzitfr but a lot of people would say that actually nobody can would say that actually nobody attent— would say that actually nobody attert tt— would say that actually nobody can afford it at— would say that actually nobody can afford it at the moment, te— can afford it at the moment, te nave— can afford it at the moment, even to have electric car. even to have an electric car. rt-s— even to have an electric car. rt-s-trant.- even to have an electric car. rt-s-trant. rt- even to have an electric car. it's-grand. if you. even to have an electric car. it's grand. if you if it's like 44 grand. if you if you— it's like 44 grand. if you if wew san— it's like 44 grand. if you if you can _that. - it's like 44 grand. if you if you can-that. i- it's like 44 grand. if you if you can that. i mean, it's like 44 grand. if you if- you can-that. i mean, the you can afford that. i mean, the gas— you can afford that. i mean, the gas ant— you can afford that. i mean, the gas and electric— you can afford that. i mean, the gas and electric bills are skyrocketing _ gas and electric bills are skyrocketing .— gas and electric bills are skyrocketing . what would your skyrocketing. what would your argument— skyrocketing. what would your argument te— skyrocketing. what would your argument be to— skyrocketing. what would your argument be to that ? : argument be to that? i say it's not argument be to that? i say it's net attent— argument be to that? i say it's not about cars,— argument be to that? i say it's not about cars, actually, it's about fossil fuels. and we can't afford to burn fossil fuels. we have to move swiftly away from them. we know this at the

moment. 50% of our electricity in this country already comes from the wind and the sun , and from the wind and the sun, and we close the gap to the we could close the gap to the other 50% ten years. i reckon other 50% in ten years. i reckon labour are ambitious than labour are more ambitious than that , so they're of me in that, so they're ahead of me in that, so they're ahead of me in that respect . we have an that respect. we have an abundance wind and sun in our abundance of wind and sun in our country. the cheapest form country. it's the cheapest form of build and of energy that we can build and the that we just the energy crisis that we just endured our bills quadrupled endured saw our bills quadrupled because the cost of fossil because of the cost of fossil fuels. even when we make them in our country , we pay ten times our country, we pay ten times more for north sea gas last winter than we did before the crisis, because we let international markets set the price of that. it doesn't price of that. so it doesn't matter fuels we matter how much fossil fuels we make here we make half our make here and we make half our gas sea, by the gas in the north sea, by the way, it doesn't matter how much more we try and make, we can't lower our bills that way. only renewable that. renewable energy can do that. but the argument you talk about wind farms generating electricity, do. they electricity, they do. they generate a lot,- electricity, they do. they generate a lot, but- .. r:r:::r they generate a lot, but a lot of it is generate a lot, but a lot of it ts wastet— generate a lot, but a lot of it is wasted. and— generate a lot, but a lot of it is wasted. and don't they only generate— is wasted. and don't they only generate _what- is wasted. and don't they only generate-what is- is wasted. and don't they only generate what is it, 26 or generate about what is it, 26 or zeta— generate about what is it, 26 or we et— generate about what is it, 26 or we et tne— generate about what is it, 26 or 24% of the energy— generate about what is it, 26 or 24% of the energy that is retwtret— 24% of the energy that is retwtret .— 24% of the energy that is required . so— 24% of the energy that is required . so how do you suggest required. so how do you suggest tnat—

required. so how do you suggest tnat we— required. so how do you suggest tnat we ttt— required. so how do you suggest that we fill in— required. so how do you suggest that we fill in the— required. so how do you suggest that we fill in the gap for the rest— that we fill in the gap for the rest et— that we fill in the gap for the rest et tte — that we fill in the gap for the rest of it? so— that we fill in the gap for the rest of it? so right- that we fill in the gap for the rest of it? ” g may rest of it? so right now, nearly 50% of our electricity comes from renewable energy. onshore wind , solar and offshore wind. wind, solar and offshore wind. we have the actual resource to power the country 20 times over. we just have to harness it. we don't need to put government money into it because onshore wind and solar, for example , wind and solar, for example, stand on their own two feet. economically, we just have to free them in the planning system, get on and do the job. and then the national grid itself says that we can be 100% powered energy. powered by green energy. technically they grid. technically they run the grid. they feasible . so they say that's feasible. so it's all possible for us. it won't and it won't cost us any money and it will solve so many problems. we can permanently energy can have permanently low energy bills. fuel bills. we can eradicate fuel poverty and never again have an energy . ididn't poverty and never again have an energy . i didn't think energy crisis. i didn't think tnew— energy crisis. i didn't think tnew nat— energy crisis. i didn't think they had enough- rzir�*rzrrtwr rts i didn't think they had enough space rzir�*rzitrtwr rts i didn't think they had enough space even on they had enough space even on tne—tne— they had enough space even on tne—tne power- the grid, for all the power generatet— the grid, for all the powerl generated—but generated by the wind. but i want— generated by the wind. but i want te— generated by the wind. but i want to really— generated by the wind. but i want to really talk about just stee— want to really talk about just step ett. — want to really talk about just step ett. r— want to really talk about just stop oil. i want— want to really talk about just stop oil. i want to talk about. mat-s— stop oil. i want to talk about. tnat-s net— stop oil. i want to talk about. that's not that's— stop oil. i want to talk about. that's not that's not true. mat-s— that's not that's not true. tnat-s net— that's not that's not true. that's not true. - that's not that's not true. that's not true. that's not true.— that's not true. that's not true—ean-t- true. i'm sorry. i can't let you say— true. i'm sorry. i can't let you saw—navel say that we absolutely have space —se - say that we absolutely have space—so weai say that we absolutely have. space—so wen say say that we absolutely have- space _so you say we space on the grid. so you say we have — space on the grid. so you say we have etaw— space on the grid. so you say we have etaw .— space on the grid. so you say we have. okay . well,— space on the grid. so you say we have. okay . well, we- space on the grid.

okay . well, we published have. okay. well, we published a state— have. okay. well, we published a state — have. okay. well, we published a state we— have. okay. well, we published a study . we published— have. okay. well, we published a study . we published a- okay. well, we published a study . study. we published a study today into the rooftop solar potential that we have in our country. and it shows that we've got we can make 13% of all of the electricity we need in the country, not just for homes , for country, not just for homes, for businesses as well. if we use our rooftops that we our rooftops and given that we only 50% more, that's only need 50% more, that's a quarter of what's left to find. and there's no grid implication for doing that. for example . for doing that. for example. but but all of this costs the consumer quite— but but all of this costs the consumer quite a bit of money to eseeetattw— consumer quite a bit of money to especially install— consumer quite a bit of money to especially install a— consumer quite a bit of money to especially install a lot of the tntnts— especially install a lot of the tntnes tnat— especially install a lot of the things that we— especially install a lot of the things that we know. heat pumps areltreat— things that we know. heat pumps areltreat ttea— things that we know. heat pumps arelgreat idea, but— things that we know. heat pumps are great idea, but a lot of are a great idea, but a lot of tne— are a great idea, but a lot of the infrastructure— are a great idea, but a lot of the infrastructure in this are a great idea, but a lot of the infrtisn't:ture in this are a great idea, but a lot of the infrtisn't good n this are a great idea, but a lot of the infrtisn't good enough country isn't good enough to sweat— country isn't good enough to serpent-treat- country isn't good enough to support-great idea.- country isn't good enough to. support-great idea. sorry, support it. a great idea. sorry, i'm but don't i'm interrupting, but i don't mean were you're not in mean to. they were you're not in street— mean to. they were you're not in sweeert et— mean to. they were you're not in sweeert et a— mean to. they were you're not in sweeert et a tat— mean to. they were you're not in support of a bad idea.— " they were you're not in support of a bad idea. they're a tat— support of a bad idea. they're a tat ttea— support of a bad idea. they're a tat ttea-we— support of a bad idea. they're a bad idea.-no, i'm- support of a bad idea. they're a bad idea. no, i'm not bad idea. okay. no, i'm not in semen— bad idea. okay. no, i'm not in sweeten-we,— bad idea. okay. no, i'm not in sweeten-we-tn- support of no, i'm not in street— support of them either. i tnewtnt— support of them either. i thought that— support of them either. i thought that you were in support of thought that you were in support et—panetsi thought that you were in support etiwear—panetsi thought that you were in support oflyour roof—panelsl thought that you were in support oflyour roof will-panelsl thought that you were in support of cc thought that you were in support of . cc t on your roof will repay the cost in four years. and after that , in four years. and after that, your energy is entirely free. and so they aren't cost. and so they aren't a cost. they're benefit to they're a massive benefit to people that put them on the rooftops. they're a great idea. heat pumps. i'm for not them, i think are bad yeah no,

think are a bad idea. yeah no, they are bad idea. but solar they are a bad idea. but solar panels. they are a bad idea. but solar eanets-tnaw- they are a bad idea. but solar panels-that, but- they are a bad idea. but solar panels-that, but a. they are a bad idea. but solarj panels-that, but a lot panels. you say that, but a lot of panels. you say that, but a lot et-nawen-t— panels. you say that, but a lot et-nawen-t tet- panels. you say that, but a lot of-haven't got the- of people haven't got the investment— of people haven't got the investment initially to buy the tntnt—menew- thing and get the money back tater.— thing and get the money back tater—meani later. but that's a bit i mean, rts— later. but that's a bit i mean, tt-slttt— later. but that's a bit i mean, tt-slttt twe— later. but that's a bit i mean, it'slbit like the— later. but that's a bit i mean, it's bit like the whole notion it's a bit like the whole notion of it's a bit like the whole notion et-tnts— it's a bit like the whole notion of this greenwashing agenda it's a bit like the whole notion of a this greenwashing agenda it's a bit like the whole notion of a lotiis greenwashing agenda it's a bit like the whole notion of a lotiis green\companies.nda for a lot of these companies. reeete— for a lot of these companies. meete-ett- for a lot of these companies. reente-ett tw- for a lot of these companies. people-off by the . for a lot of these companies. people off by the whole people are put off by the whole tntnt— people are put off by the whole ttme—energy- thing of renewable energy teawse— thing of renewable energy because companies because a lot of companies come out because a lot of companies come eat—ettsetttnt i out with things like offsetting eaten— out with things like offsetting earten—tnatl carbon and things like that, wnten— carbon and things like that, wnten-ttte- carbon and things like that, which-like they. carbon and things like that,- which-like they come . which are sound like they come. it's which are sound like they come. rts—rte- which are sound like they come. rts—rte ant- it's not realistic, is it? and tnat— it's not realistic, is it? and mat-tne- it's not realistic, is it? and tnat-tne ttt- it's not realistic, is it? and that the big things that is one of the big things tnat— that is one of the big things tnat eeeete— that is one of the big things that people _off- that is one of the big things that people off by, that people are put off by, i understand.— that people are put off by, i understand. and— that people are put off by, i understand. and i agree. but teat.— understand. and i agree. but teat. tt— understand. and i agree. but teat. tt wee— understand. and i agree. but look, if you look— understand. and i agree. but look, if you look at- understand. and i agree. but look, if you look at the alternative of fossil fuels, the government licencing government are licencing to massive new fields in the north sea. one of them will belong to a norwegian company who are being given a £3 billion tax break in order to develop that project, which they will spend just £300 million on. that's a massive cost to the british consumer. and by the way, we haven't made any money out of the north sea for several years now. okay. the north sea for several years now . okay. and very, very now. okay. and very, very trtettw— now. okay. and very, very briefly, because - okay. and very, very briefly, because i'm running out of briefly, because i'm running out et ttme,— briefly, because i'm running out et time, t— briefly, because i'm running out of time, i could— briefly, because i'm running out of time, i could talk to you for ages— of time, i could talk to you for ages atewt— of time, i could talk to you for ages about this. _ of time, i could talk to you for ages about this. but with regard to ages about this. but with regard te-ott— ages about this. but with regard te-ott wnat— ages about this. but with regard to-oil what about- ages about this. but with regard to oil what about the to just stop oil what about the eeeete-s— to just stop oil what about the eeeete-s-wne— to just stop oil what about the people's who been people's lives who have been ttsrwntet— people's lives who have been ttsreetttnt— people's lives who have been disrgetting doctor's not getting to doctor's

appointments, people missing, twnerats— appointments, people missing, funerals-that— appointments, people missing, funerals .that -of - funerals, all that kind of start. — funerals, all that kind of stuff. imean_ funerals, all that kind of stuff.imean ,- funerals, all that kind of stuff. mean , they are losing stuff. i mean, they are losing a lot stuff. i mean, they are losing a tetlsweeert— stuff. i mean, they are losing a lot-support from _ stuff. i mean, they are losing a lot support from from the lot of support from from the patte— lot of support from from the public..there_ lot of support from from the public. there not, in your public. is there not, in your wew— public. is there not, in your te— public. is there not, in your te wew— public. is there not, in your view, do you not- public. is there not, in your view, do you not think there's tetter— view, do you not think there's tetter-tnat— view, do you not think there's better-that-couldl better ways that they could eernans— better ways that they could perhaps protest— better ways that they could perhaps protest ? e perhaps protest? look, it may be possible . there are better ways. possible. there are better ways. i know . i know that you i don't know. i know that you can't i don't know. i know that you cant an i don't know. i know that you can't an effective protest can't have an effective protest without disruption. without some disruption. and i know the disruption they're know that the disruption they're causing out of all proportion causing is out of all proportion to disruption that the to the disruption that the climate crisis is already causing. last year in europe , causing. last year in europe, almost 40,000 people lost their lives due to extreme temperatures. this has been reported on by every government in europe. and are the in europe. and these are the numbers. nearly deaths numbers. nearly 40,000 deaths from crisis . so if from the climate crisis. so if by comparison, we have a late start to a rugby game, a bit of snooker or some snooker disruption or some traffic , i'd say that's traffic jams, i'd say that's actually a very small disruption compared to what is these compared to what it is these guys to prevent. guys are trying to prevent. there's a greater harm going on in i don't know in the world. well, i don't know wnetner—sawl in the world. well, i don't know. whether_ say that in the world. well, i don't know. wisomebody_say that in the world. well, i don't know. wisomebody died-say that " : well, i don't know wisomebody died or say that " : well, i don't know wisomebody died or one say that " : well, i don't know wisomebody died or one of ay that if somebody died or one of the memetrs— if somebody died or one of the members-family- members of the family or semetntnt— members of the family or something awful happened, semetetw— somebody died last summer, 40. no somebody died last summer, 40. we tat— somebody died last summer, 40. we twt wnat— somebody died last summer, 40. no but what-saying- somebody died last summer, 40. no but what saying is, if no but what i'm saying is, if semetetw— no but what i'm saying is, if semetetw tt— no but what i'm saying is, if somebody if somebody trying somebody if somebody is trying to somebody if somebody is trying

te—reattw- to get to something really tmeertant— to get to something really important miss to get to something really important-miss and important and they miss it and or important and they miss it and er-tat— important and they miss it and er-tat sett- important and they miss it and or-bad sort of- important and they miss it and or bad sort of effect or there's a bad sort of effect of or there's a bad sort of effect et mat,— or there's a bad sort of effect of that, then _ or there's a bad sort of effect of that, then they— or there's a bad sort of effect of that, then they might not agree— of that, then they might not agree wttt— of that, then they might not agree with you— of that, then they might not agree with you on that. but it's reattw— agree with you on that. but it's reattw-zeee— agree with you on that. but it's really-2000 people- really good. 2000 people die, right? who say to right? and who do you say to that? yeah but that's happening because we're fuels. yeah, but they because we're fuels. yeah, but tnew eewtt— because we're fuels. yeah, but they could protest— because we're fuels. yeah, but they could protest in- because we're fuels. yeah, but they could protest in a- they could protest in a different— they could protest in a different-it- they could protest in a different it doesn't have different way. it doesn't have to different way. it doesn't have te-neeete- different way. it doesn't have to-people their. to cost other people their ttwes. — to cost other people their lives. people _ to cost other people their lives. people who probably would sweeert—tt- lives. people who probably would sweeert—tt . - support hasn't done has it. rts— support hasn't done has it. it's theoretical. i— support hasn't done has it. e ”certs; i think support hasn't done has it. e t i think some it's theoretical. i think some of it's theoretical. i think some et tne— it's theoretical. i think some of the protests— it's theoretical. i think some of the protests have- e ”c1: rt: i think some of the protests have some people wne— of the protests have some people wne-teen— of the protests have some people who-been able- of the protests have some people who-been able to- of the protests have some people who been able to get to who haven't been able to get to tntnts— things or people who haven't teen— things or people who haven't teen-tet— things or people who haven't been get doctor's been able to get to doctor's aeeemtments— been able to get to doctor's- appointments—have appointments or they may have mtsset— appointments or they may have missed treatment— appointments or they may have missed treatment for something or missed treatment for something er—naeeenl missed treatment for something er|nawe—naeeen.l missed treatment for something or have to happen. missed treatment for something or have to admit happen. missed treatment for something or have to admit it happen. missed treatment for something or have to admit it coulden. missed treatment for something or have to admit it could could you have to admit it could could naeeen. — you have to admit it could could naeeen. _ttwesl you have to admit it could could naeeen. _ttwes .| happen. it has cost no lives. that hasn't happened. it's all theoretical. you don't know mat,— theoretical. you don't know mat-rew— theoretical. you don't know that,-you _knowl theoretical. you don't know- that, _you - know that. that, dale. you don't know that. eat— that, dale. you don't know that. eat-rearw— that, dale. you don't know that. eat-reattw teet— that, dale. you don't know that. but really good talk but it's really good to talk to wew—mat- but it's really good to talk to. you._that happens. you. we know if that happens. wett— you. we know if that happens. wett. ne— you. we know if that happens. wett. ne-we— you. we know if that happens. well, no,-we do— you. we know if that happens. well, no,-we do the-ifj you. we know if that happens. whappened. |we do the-ifj you. we know if that happens. : well, �*" you. we know if that happens. �*ft�* : well, listen. �*" you. we know if that happens. �*ft�* : well, listen. well it happened. well, listen. well ttsten— it happened. well, listen. well ttsten-eeme— it happened. well, listen. well listen,-come-on- it happened. well, listen. well listen,-come-on my| listen, dale, come back on my stew— listen, dale, come back on my nsew-en— listen, dale, come back on my. show-on-weekend. show sometime on the weekend. i'll show sometime on the weekend. r-tt-researen- i'll find some research and wett— i'll find some research and we'll-another- i'll find some research and we'll another chat about we'll have another chat about it. we'll have another chat about t. eate— we'll have another chat about it. dale, vince,— we'll have another chat about it. dale, vince, thank you so mean. — it. dale, vince, thank you so mean. teaw— it. dale, vince, thank you so much. really good to talk to wew— you. thank you. right now to a tramatte—tn- you. thank you. right now to a dramatic—in the. you. thank you. right now to a. dramatic—in the row you. thank you. right now to a. dramboris_in the row you. thank you. right now to a dramborisjohnson's in the row you. thank you. right now to a dram boris johnson's whatsapp tw over boris johnson's whatsapp messages notebooks. messages and notebooks. the termer— messages and notebooks. the former prime— messages and notebooks. the former prime minister has blown apart— former prime minister has blown apart government's apart the government's efforts to apart the government's efforts te enattente— apart the government's efforts to challenge the— apart the government's efforts to challenge the covid 19 tntwtw—al to challenge the covid 19- inquiry_a judicial

inquiry by launching a judicial review. johnson— inquiry by launching a judicial review. johnson has to review. johnson has written to tne— review. johnson has written to tne-et— review. johnson has written to tne-er tne — review. johnson has written to the-of the inquiry- the chair of the inquiry baroness-and. the chair of the inquiry. baroness-and told the chair of the inquiry- baroness-and told her baroness hallett and told her tnat— baroness hallett and told her tnat ne— baroness hallett and told her tnat ne wttt— baroness hallett and told her that he will hand over all his wnretaetet— that he will hand over all his unredacted material directly. ant— unredacted material directly. ant tne— unredacted material directly. and the cabinet— unredacted material directly. and the cabinet office have been artwet— and the cabinet office have been artwet tnat— and the cabinet office have been argued that much— and the cabinet office have been argued that much the material argued that much of the material snewtt— argued that much of the material should confidential should remain confidential teawse— should remain confidential because .was_ should remain confidential because was unambiguously because it was unambiguously trretewant. — because it was unambiguously irrelevant. the— because it was unambiguously irrelevant. the former justice secretary,— irrelevant. the former justice secretary, lord _ irrelevant. the former justice secretary, lord charlie tawttnen— secretary, lord charlie faulkner, has backed boris rennsen-s— faulkner, has backed boris johnson's decision. he's enttttet— johnson's decision. he's entitled to— johnson's decision. he's entitled to take the view that if entitled to take the view that tt tne — entitled to take the view that tt tne tntwtw— entitled to take the view that if the inquiry want to see it, met— if the inquiry want to see it, tnew snewtt— if the inquiry want to see it, they should see— if the inquiry want to see it, they should see it . ' r: e they should see it. and it's not that— they should see it. and it's not that i've got nothing to hide, he's saying. in effect, they need this to reach a conclusion . it's not clear to me whether or not the material will in fact get to the inquiry, because what bofis get to the inquiry, because what boris appears to be saying is, i want to get my notebooks back from the cabinet office so i can then give it to the inquiry. so i don't know whether or not the cabinet is going to cabinet office is going to agree. david is very wise. david maddox to my left is very wise when he says this is all about optics, whether it's about any sort of reality. i've got no idea and i'm not clear in my own mind as to where the phone which

has the whatsapp messages, which bofis has the whatsapp messages, which boris has not yet handed over , boris has not yet handed over, is well , i'm joined boris has not yet handed over, is well, i'm joined now by gb news political reporter olivia utley olivia , talk to me about utley olivia, talk to me about this. yeah , it's a really this. yeah, it's a really interesting— yeah, it's a really interesting development. ' r: this. yeah, it's a really- interesting development. and as you saw— interesting development. and as you saw. tt— interesting development. and as you saw. tt serr— interesting development. and as you saw. tt sert et— interesting development. and as you say, it sort of blows apart the government's plan to take this to judicial review. boris johnson , it seems, is doing johnson, it seems, is doing a little bit of mischief making. he has said all along that he's perfectly happy for his whatsapps and unredacted form to be handed over to the inquiry , be handed over to the inquiry, but it was actually the cabinet office rather than boris johnson himself, had responsibility himself, who had responsibility for those materials for handing those materials oven for handing those materials over. and cabinet office over. and the cabinet office decided added that they didn't want . now there are a couple want to. now there are a couple of options for why they decided they didn't want sort of they didn't want to. the sort of more exciting one is that there is a minister sitting in government at moment who government at the moment who want who that there was want who knew that there was something that something on those messages that they out, they didn't want to get out, something potentially damaging they didn't want to get out, so at thing potentially damaging they didn't want to get out, so at theg potentially damaging they didn't want to get out, so at the very:entially damaging they didn't want to get out, so at the very least.ly damaging or at the very least embarrassing the other option, which is what the government is claiming, is that actually and it might well be true , is that

it might well be true, is that actually all they're worried aboutis actually all they're worried about is setting a dangerous precedent , that covid inquiry we precedent, that covid inquiry we were expecting to go for a were expecting to go for on a number years and if there if number of years and if there if it's able to access this sort of volume of what the government considers to be unambiguously irrelevant material, then is there a danger of the privacy of ministers and civil servants being compromised? but now boris johnson has come forward and said, well, that's all very well. understand where the well. i understand where the government is coming but well. i understand where the govwords nt is coming but well. i understand where the govwords were, :oming but well. i understand where the govwords were, iming but well. i understand where the govwords were, i don't but well. i understand where the govwords were, i don't want but well. i understand where the govwords were, i don't want my his words were, i don't want my case be used as a test case. case to be used as a test case. so he's saying, well, here you go, my evidence. and the go, here is my evidence. and the inquiry can do what they like with it. it is unclear whether the government going to carry the government is going to carry on taking this judicial on taking this to judicial review freeman review from what george freeman junior minister was saying on question time last night. it sounds that sounds quite plausible that the government it to government might take it to judicial review anyway . now judicial review anyway. now obviously mad obviously that sounds mad because johnson has because boris johnson has has made that sort of irrelevant by by handing over the material himself. and it sounds quite likely government will likely that the government will lose. eminent have lose. eminent lawyers have already said sumption,

already said lord sumption, a former high court judge, has said government has case said the government has no case given broad baroness hallett given how broad baroness hallett remit is. but the government says that this is a matter of principle and it's happy to fight the case, perhaps even if it's going to lose simply because it doesn't want to set the precedent for ministers private conversations to be compromised. hm private conversations to be compromised . hm but could they compromised. hm but could they not compromised. hm but could they net nave— compromised. hm but could they net nave r— compromised. hm but could they not have i mean,— compromised. hm but could they not have i mean, i— rtr:::r: : hm but could they not have i mean, i spoke to you earner— not have i mean, i spoke to you eartter atewt— not have i mean, i spoke to you earlier about this— not have i mean, i spoke to you earlier about this and the remit extremetw— earlier about this and the remit was extremely wide for the baroness, so she could have got any—was— baroness, so she could have got any—was tnere- baroness, so she could have got any—was there noti any information. was there not a remt— point in there where they could nave — point in there where they could nave—ttnt- point in there where they could nave—ttnt etl have negotiated the kind of information— have negotiated the kind of information were information that they were ereearet— information that they werei prepared _well, prepared to give her? well, eernans— prepared to give her? well, eernaes-ts— prepared to give her? well, perhaps is what's perhaps this is what's quite strante. — perhaps this is what's quite. strange. - government strange. did the government obviously, when pandemic was obviously, when the pandemic was happening, people were talking about the for important it about the need for important it serious inquiry into exactly what the government did. and i expect at the time the government felt that it was politically impossible to do anything other than say, yes, of course we want an inquiry. we're squeaky clean, take everything you like , and when it's actually you like, and when it's actually come it , they may have come to it, they may have changed their minds. well, olivia, so much

changed their minds. well,i olivia,-so much for olivia, thank you so much for mat.— olivia, thank you so much for tnat. _uflev- - olivia, thank you so much fori that._utley. we'll that. that's olivia utley. we'll eaw— that. that's olivia utley. we'll earw-tnat— that. that's olivia utley. we'll carry-that story.- that. that's olivia utley. we'll carry that story. but carry on with that story. but you— carry on with that story. but wew—mere- carry on with that story. but wew—mere enl carry on with that story. but. you—more on that carry on with that story. but- you_more on that as you can get lots more on that as wett— you can get lots more on that as wettlewr— you can get lots more on that as well-our website. _ you can get lots more on that as well our website. head to gb well on our website. head to gb wews— well on our website. head to gb news .com. you'll— well on our website. head to gb news .com. you'll find the best anatwsts— news .com. you'll find the best anatwsts ant— news .com. you'll find the best analysis and opinion as well as the analysis and opinion as well as tne-treatme— analysis and opinion as well as the-breaking-now,| the latest breaking news. now, tnere-s— the latest breaking news. now, tnere-s tast— the latest breaking news. now, tnere-s test a— the latest breaking news. now, there's just a few— the latest breaking news. now, there's just a few minutes to go wnttt— there's just a few minutes to go wnttt ene— there's just a few minutes to go wnttt et— there's just a few minutes to go until one of the— there's just a few minutes to go until one of the biggest horse et— until one of the biggest horse et tne— until one of the biggest horse races of the year. _ until one of the biggest horse races of the year. but our antmat— races of the year. but our animal rights— races of the year. but our animal rights activists are going— animal rights activists are. teme—nana animal rights activists are. eetneen—wana animal rights activists are. goingon-britain'sia animal rights activists are- goingon-britain's news.

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and we're about, what, five mtnwtes— and we're about, what, five minutes away?— and we're about, what, five minutes away? just under five mtnwtes— minutes away? just under five mtnwtes away— minutes away? just under five minutes away from the biggest tetaw— minutes away from the biggest race today, which— minutes away from the biggest race today, which is the oaks. mat-s— race today, which is the oaks. tnat-s tne — race today, which is the oaks. tnat-s tne ttt— race today, which is the oaks. that's the big race today . and that's the big race today. and tnen— that's the big race today. and tnen tne— that's the big race today. and then the main— that's the big race today. and then the main course, if you we,— then the main course, if you we, ts— then the main course, if you we, ts tne— then the main course, if you like, is the derby, which starts at er— like, is the derby, which starts at er tees— like, is the derby, which starts at er tees at— like, is the derby, which starts at or goes at 130— like, is the derby, which starts at or goes at 130 tomorrow atterneen — at or goes at 130 tomorrow atterneen .— at or goes at 130 tomorrow afternoon . today, they have been afternoon. today, they have been teettnt— afternoon. today, they have been teettnt eat— afternoon. today, they have been looking out for— afternoon. today, they have been looking out for some activity. wew-we— looking out for some activity. you've seen stu— looking out for some activity. you've seen stu is constantly teettnt— you've seen stu is constantly teettnt ,— you've seen stu is constantly looking , surveilling, looking looking, surveilling, looking arent— looking, surveilling, looking around, looking— looking, surveilling, looking around, looking for any sort of aettwtw— around, looking for any sort of aettwtw .— around, looking for any sort of aettwttw . see,— around, looking for any sort of activity . see, once— around, looking for any sort of activity . see, once a race is activity. see, once a race is wnterwaw— activity. see, once a race is wnterwaw ,— activity. see, once a race is underway , there- activity. see, once a race is underway , there is underway, there is a significantly increased number of significantly increased number et stewarts— significantly increased number of stewards, marshals , police of stewards, marshals, police ettteers— of stewards, marshals, police officers, armed _ of stewards, marshals, police officers, armed police, eteetera— officers, armed police, etcetera. so - officers, armed police, etcetera. so they are trying to be as— etcetera. so they are trying to be as as— etcetera. so they are trying to be as as vigilant— etcetera. so they are trying to be as as vigilant as possible. rts— be as as vigilant as possible. it's difficult— be as as vigilant as possible. it's difficult on— be as as vigilant as possible. it's difficult on a— be as as vigilant as possible. it's difficult on a on a course twe— it's difficult on a on a course ttte tnts— it's difficult on a on a course like this nana,— it's difficult on a on a course like this nana, because epsom racecourse is in— like this nana, because epsom racecourse is in the middle of tne— racecourse is in the middle of tne ensem— racecourse is in the middle of the epsom downs. there are lots of the epsom downs. there are lots et patte— the epsom downs. there are lots et ewttte tents— the epsom downs. there are lots of public rights of— the epsom downs. there are lots of public rights of way that cut tne — of public rights of way that cut across the course— of public rights of way that cut across the course and around the _trewtnt- across the course and around the course. _brought in- course. they have brought in extra— course. they have brought in eta-— course. they have brought in etra- tat- course. they have brought in extra-, but it's- extra fencing, but it's difficult. _ extra fencing, but it's difficult. not like aintree difficult. it's not like aintree wnere— difficult. it's not like aintree where—grand. where they have the grand wattenat— where they have the grand national, where there's a huge eenmeter— national, where there's a huge perimeter around— national, where there's a huge perimeter around it and a lot of it perimeter around it and a lot of t ts— perimeter around it and a lot of t ts teneet— perimeter around it and a lot of it is fenced to— perimeter around it and a lot of it is fenced to keep people out. so it is fenced to keep people out. se tnew—

it is fenced to keep people out. se tnew nave— it is fenced to keep people out. so they have put— it is fenced to keep people out. so they have put in plan places tee.— so they have put in plan places tee. mew— so they have put in plan places tee. tnew nave— so they have put in plan places too. they have put— so they have put in plan places too. they have put in sort of got— too. they have put in sort of get a— too. they have put in sort of get a strategy— too. they have put in sort of got a strategy of— too. they have put in sort of got a strategy of prevention mere.— got a strategy of prevention tnere. eat— got a strategy of prevention there. but what— got a strategy of prevention there. but what if that fails? rten— there. but what if that fails? tnen tnew— there. but what if that fails? tnen tnew te — there. but what if that fails? then they do have plans in place to then they do have plans in place te tw— then they do have plans in place te trw ant— then they do have plans in place to try and reduce— then they do have plans in place to try and reduce any delay to tne— to try and reduce any delay to tne teae— to try and reduce any delay to the race when— to try and reduce any delay to the race when it— to try and reduce any delay to the race when it gets underway tomorrow or 130— the race when it gets underway tomorrow or 130 to— the race when it gets underway tomorrow or 130 to mitigate any tomorrow or130 to mitigate any sert— tomorrow or130 to mitigate any sert et— tomorrow or130 to mitigate any sort of interference— tomorrow or 130 to mitigate any sort of interference that there may— sort of interference that there may be — sort of interference that there may be wttt— sort of interference that there may be with the— sort of interference that there may be with the track protesters wstnt— may be with the track protesters using different— may be with the track protesters using different substances, trytnt— using different substances, trytnt te— using different substances, trying to chain— using different substances, trying to chain themselves to pests— trying to chain themselves to posts, etcetera _ trying to chain themselves to posts, etcetera .— trying to chain themselves to posts, etcetera . but today, so posts, etcetera. but today, so far r— posts, etcetera. but today, so tar , tts— posts, etcetera. but today, so far , it's been— posts, etcetera. but today, so far , it's been quiet. you can far, it's been quiet. you can tne— far, it's been quiet. you can see the increased security presence eat— see the increased security presence. but at the moment it's tast— presence. but at the moment it's twst atewt— presence. but at the moment it's twst atewt tne— presence. but at the moment it's just about the racing and people enteytnt— just about the racing and people enteytne tne— just about the racing and people enjoying the sunshine . " enjoying the sunshine. this one tere— enjoying the sunshine. this one here. ste— enjoying the sunshine. this one here, she drove— enjoying the sunshine. this one here, she drove me out for the day. i made him calm. it's something i wanted to do, definitely. was definitely. yeah. yeah. it was definitely. yeah. yeah. it was definitely her idea. yeah what's so good about it ? well, i what's so good about it? well, i went— what's so good about it? well, i went tast— what's so good about it? well, i went tast year. — what's so good about it? well, i went last year. it's— what's so good about it? well, i went last year. it's just the atmosphere and everyone's having atmosphere and everyone's having a sunny , it's a good time. it's sunny, it's summer, it's just an exciting weekend from start to finish. really . we meet up with good really. we meet up with good friends and have a good time. yeah. any top tips? no. i wswatty— yeah. any top tips? no. i wswatty tast— yeah. any top tips? no. i usually just pick number four or

a name. so what? number four? it's a name. so what? number four? rt-s aent.— a name. so what? number four? rt-s ettnt. rt— a name. so what? number four? it's eight. if there's— a name. so what? number four? it's eight. if there's not- it's eight. if there's not a tnat— it's eight. if there's not a name that catches your eye, you test— name that catches your eye, you test 90— name that catches your eye, you twst 90 ter— name that catches your eye, you test 90 ter tear. — name that catches your eye, you just go for four. yeah. / just go for four. yeah. yeah. seet— just go for four. yeah. yeah. eeet eats.— just go for four. yeah. t/rzi;:t“ good oaks. hopefully. hopefully a-wtnner— good oaks. hopefully. hopefully a-wtnner .— good oaks. hopefully. hopefully a-winner . yeah.- good oaks. hopefully. hopefully a winner . yeah. save the a good winner. yeah. save the tast— a good winner. yeah. save the tast-teets— a good winner. yeah. save the last-looks well,- a good winner. yeah. save the last-looks well, so- a good winner. yeah. save the last looks well, so . got last dance looks well, so. got any— last dance looks well, so. got any teet— last dance looks well, so. got any good tips?— last dance looks well, so. got any good tips? don't . this any good tips? oh, i don't. this is any good tips? oh, i don't. this ts-ter— any good tips? oh, i don't. this ts-ter tne— any good tips? oh, i don't. this ts-ter tne tet.- any good tips? oh, i don't. this is for the job. really? is the man for the job. really? go is the man for the job. really? ee-.— is the man for the job. really? ee-. r— is the man for the job. really? ee-. r ten-t- is the man for the job. really? go-. i don't know.- is the man for the job. really? go . i don't know. it's go on, then. i don't know. it's tatte— go on, then. i don't know. it's tatte a— go on, then. i don't know. it's twtte a rew— go on, then. i don't know. it's quite a few competitive nantteaes— quite a few competitive handicaps, so- quite a few competitive handicaps, so we'll have to see. eat— handicaps, so we'll have to see. nwt r— handicaps, so we'll have to see. nwt r mean— handicaps, so we'll have to see. but i mean, wait.— handicaps, so we'll have to see. but i mean, wait. till we but i mean, wait. wait till we knew— but i mean, wait. wait till we knew-arewnt-s- know what the ground's like atter— know what the ground's like atter tne— know what the ground's like after the first _ know what the ground's like after the first race. o": after the first race. one other ttme. — after the first race. one other thing. nana train strikes . there thing. nana train strikes. there has been some disruption, some people have had to get taxis considerably long distances when they would have caught the train instead . but most people seem to instead. but most people seem to have planned ahead for this. they knew there was going be they knew there was going to be a train strike. they've made significant their significant changes to their journey in order to get here for the day , and they often talk the day, and they often talk about the dress code here as well. dropped this well. that's been dropped this yeah well. that's been dropped this year. lot less year. so there's a lot less people dressed up. it's people dressed up. and it's a it's a bit more of a relaxed atmosphere to be honest. well, i mean, looking forward to the race few moments time. race in just a few moments time. paul race in just a few moments time. paul, so much . we'll paul, thank you so much. we'll teee— paul, thank you so much. we'll teee-tate—

paul, thank you so much. we'll teee-tate-yew- keep up to date with you throughout.— keep up to date with you throughout. right now, i was tetnet— throughout. right now, i was tetnet tn— throughout. right now, i was tetnet tn tne— throughout. right now, i was joined in the studio a little earner— joined in the studio a little eartter ty— joined in the studio a little earlier by nathan mcgovern from tntmat— earlier by nathan mcgovern from tntmat-.— earlier by nathan mcgovern from tntmat-. ant— earlier by nathan mcgovern from animal-. and here's- earlier by nathan mcgovern from animal . and here's what animal racing. and here's what he animal racing. and here's what ne nat— animal racing. and here's what ne nat te— animal racing. and here's what ne nat te-te— animal racing. and here's what he had to .to me— animal racing. and here's what he had to-to me. - animal racing. and here's what he had to to me . r: he had to say to me. so what i'd tere— he had to say to me. so what i'd tewe ter— he had to say to me. so what i'd love for us to do have love for us to do is have a national conversation about our broken animals broken relationship with animals and you know, and the natural world. you know, the up the jockey club brings up that statistic . they say 98% of statistic. they say 98% of horses from races as horses come home from races as safe and sound. but, you know, if we looked at premier league football, if we had two footballers every footballers dying every every saturday, 3:00 offs, saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, would have sport would we still have that sport around? so. and around? i don't think so. and that's even about that's not even talking about off that's not even talking about ett tract,— that's not even talking about off track, off— that's not even talking about off track, off track deaths. vea— off track, off track deaths. tea knew— off track, off track deaths. tea tnew .— off track, off track deaths. you know , these- off track, off track deaths. you know , these don't- off track, off track deaths. you know , these don't even get you know, these don't even get recorded. happen on recorded. things happen on stables horses are taken stables or when horses are taken after , when have after races, when they have heart the heart attacks from the overexertion that put them overexertion that we put them through. but you know, look, the animals , the animal people who animals, the animal people who are looking after these horses, so jockeys and so on and so so the jockeys and so on and so forth will say that they love these and these animals these animals and these animals wouldn't if the animal wouldn't do it if the animal didn't want mean, do you didn't want to. i mean, do you buy— didn't want to. i mean, do you twy-tnat— didn't want to. i mean, do you buy-that argument? - buy into that argument? you kn...— buy into that argument? you mew-mmt— buy into that argument? you know,.think-the- buy into that argument? you know, think the people know, i do think that the people involved vast involved in century, the vast majority them, love majority of them, do love animals they're animals as long as they're within industry. know, within the industry. you know,

kevin you kevin blake, last night, you know, know, know, he was, you know, jaw dropped floor dropped to the floor at the suggestion was £4 billion industry would look after these horses if there wasn't racing and really what we need and that's really what we need to looking is do we to be looking at is how do we look without look after these animals without them on them hurting themselves on race tracks? but look , an animal tracks? but look, an animal eewtt— tracks? but look, an animal eewtt nan— tracks? but look, an animal could hurt itself— tracks? but look, an animal could hurt itself if- t“ but look, an animal could hurt itself if it's rwnntnt— could hurt itself if it's. running-wild, running out in the wild, an antmat— running out in the wild, an animal-hurt-ifj animal could hurt itself. if tts— animal could hurt itself. if rts-teme— animal could hurt itself. if it's-doing.own- animal could hurt itself. if it's doing own thing, it's just doing its own thing, even own, without , you even on its own, without, you mew,— even on its own, without, you mew—nttnt- know, somebody riding it as a teetey. — know, somebody riding it as a teetey. tney— know, somebody riding it as a jockey. they love— know, somebody riding it as a jockey. they love horses. jockey. they love the horses. they— jockey. they love the horses. tney-tet— jockey. they love the horses. tney-tet et— jockey. they love the horses.| they-lot of-into they put a lot of money into the snert. — they put a lot of money into the snert. -nerses- they put a lot of money into the sport. _horses are- sport. so these horses are teetet— sport. so these horses are looked after. _ sport. so these horses are looked after. and ultimately year— looked after. and ultimately yewr teats— looked after. and ultimately yewr teats et— looked after. and ultimately your goals of looking after tnese— your goals of looking after these-similar.- your goals of looking after these similar. is it these horses is similar. is it tast— these horses is similar. is it twst tnat— these horses is similar. is it twst tnat yew— these horses is similar. is it just that you don't like what tney-re—tne - just that you don't like whati they're—the horses they're doing with the horses ant—steeei and you want them to stop? is tnat— and you want them to stop? is tnat-tse — and you want them to stop? isl that-is? .ultimately, that what it is? so ultimately, what it's an issue of what this is, it's an issue of we're for we're using these animals for something. know , they something. you know, they wouldn't otherwise. you wouldn't be doing otherwise. you know love to run, know, horses, they love to run, you know , they to you know, they love to run through you maybe through fields. you know, maybe even through they even through woodlands if they are or anything. are wild ponies or anything. but they is have they don't love to do is have someone jump their back, put someone jump on their back, put a mouth whip a bit in their mouth and whip them run. okay. a bit in their mouth and whip them run . okay. but them for them to run. okay. but then if them for them to run. okay. but tnen tt tney— them for them to run. okay. but then if they didn't— them for them to run. okay. but then if they didn't like - " okay. but then if they didn't like that, surety— then if they didn't like that,j surety—r surely they wouldn't do it. i —meanye nwtl surely they wouldn't do it. i —meanye eat ai surely they wouldn't do it. i. mean,-you put a bit surely they wouldn't do it. i- mean,-you put a bit in mean, you know, you put a bit in the mean, you know, you put a bit in tne nerses— mean, you know, you put a bit in the horse's mouth.— mean, you know, you put a bit in the horse's mouth. if it wasn't going— the horse's mouth. if it wasn't teme-tt— the horse's mouth. if it wasn't teme-rt eewtt- the horse's mouth. if it wasn't going it could throw going to do it, it could throw you—

going to do it, it could throw yew-rts— going to do it, it could throw yew-rts a— going to do it, it could throw you-it's a bigger- going to do it, it could throw you it's a bigger animal you off. it's a bigger animal tnan— you off. it's a bigger animal tnan-tnat- you off. it's a bigger animal than _that the than you and that would be the ent—mts— than you and that would be the end this absolutely than you and that would be the end happen this absolutely than you and that would be the end happen with s absolutely than you and that would be the end happen with someilutely than you and that would be the end happen with some horses does happen with some horses tnat— does happen with some horses mat-teete— does happen with some horses that-decide that- does happen with some horses that decide that they had that just decide that they had enewtn. — that just decide that they had. enewtn. _tees. that just decide that they had. eryean. _tees. that just decide that they had. eryou tet—does. that just decide that they had. eryou let me_does, that just decide that they had. eryou let me explain-does, that just decide that they had. eryou let me explain to.does, that just decide that they had er " if you let me explain to your viewers, perhaps, is it puts the horse into excuse radiating pain. so jockey has complete pain. so the jockey has complete control over the horse with the bit because of the pain that it's causing , causing, causing it's causing, causing, causing it. that essentially, it. and that essentially, you know, the horse submit know, is making the horse submit to the will of the jockey. and that sound very to that doesn't sound very nice to me . no, that doesn't sound me. no, that doesn't sound particularly nice. there's lots more _come, though,l more still to come, though, between— more still to come, though,- between—o'clock. between now and finally o'clock. now:— between now and finally o'clock. now, there-s— between now and finally o'clock. now, there's-latest- between now and finally o'clock. now, there's latest on now, there's the latest on philip-s— now, there's the latest on philip's schofield scandal with holly— philip's schofield scandal with holly willoughby carrying on like-happening- holly willoughby carrying on like happening, like nothing's happening, realty.— like nothing's happening, reauy. and— like nothing's happening, really. and there's the shocking story— really. and there's the shocking story about— really. and there's the shocking story about the _ really. and there's the shocking story about the london hotel where— story about the london hotel where migrants— story about the london hotel where migrants are moaning that the rooms— where migrants are moaning that the rooms aren't— where migrants are moaning that the rooms aren't nice enough. but— the rooms aren't nice enough. but first,— the rooms aren't nice enough. but first, let's— the rooms aren't nice enough. but first, let's get— the rooms aren't nice enough. but first, let's get your latest news headlines— but first, let's get your latest news headlines with bethany elsey— news headlines with bethany elsey .— news headlines with bethany asey. here-s— news headlines with bethany elsey. here's your news headlines with bethany elsey . here's your latest elsey. here's your latest headlines— elsey. here's your latest headlines from the gb newsroom at hau— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past four,— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past four, a— headlines from the gb newsroom at half past four, a 19 year old has— at half past four, a 19 year old has been— at half past four, a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in

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i thank nana. - i thank you, nana. thank you, bethany. if you've - thank you, bethany. if you've iusi isirrsi— . thank you, bethany. if you've iusi joined ms— . thank you, bethany. if you've just joined me, welcome- thank you, bethany. if you've just joined me, welcome on board.— just joined me, welcome on boars—up- just joined me, welcome on ism—up is. just joined me, welcome on board._up to 34| board. it's coming up to 34 minutes— board. it's coming up to 34 minutes-4:00. - board. it's coming up to 34 minutes 4:00. i'm nana minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua— minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua iris— minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua iris is— minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua this is gb— minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we are the psspis-s— akua this is gb news. we are the psspis-s sirrrrrsi— akua this is gb news. we are the people's channel now. more on irri— people's channel now. more on that incredible— people's channel now. more on that incredible story of the migraris— that incredible story of the migrants who— that incredible story of the migrants who barricaded their isisi— migrants who barricaded their isisi-iirs— migrants who barricaded their hotel-the rooms- migrants who barricaded their hotel the rooms were hotel because the rooms were rise— hotel because the rooms were energis— hotel because the rooms were ereuei .— hotel because the rooms were nice enough . asylum seekers nice enough. asylum seekers preiesiei— nice enough. asylum seekers protested-the— nice enough. asylum seekers protested the street because protested on the street because trey-re— protested on the street because iirey-re rearing— protested on the street because they're having to— protested on the street because they're having to share rooms at they're having to share rooms at rise iirriiee— they're having to share rooms at the pimlico comfort inn in ionisi— the pimlico comfort inn in london. one— the pimlico comfort inn in london. one of— the pimlico comfort inn in london. one of the migrants said riser— london. one of the migrants said the riser— london. one of the migrants said that iiey — london. one of the migrants said that they were being treated iike— that they were being treated like—earlier- that they were being treated like_earlier ,- that they were being treated like—earlier , ii like animals, but earlier, i re— like animals, but earlier, i is ie— like animals, but earlier, i mean, to be honest, if you've been re— mean, to be honest, if you've ever been to pimlico, it's one of rise — ever been to pimlico, it's one of the nicest— ever been to pimlico, it's one of the nicest parts- ever been to pimlico, it's one of the nicest parts of london. eur— of the nicest parts of london. err-iris— of the nicest parts of london. but this afternoon, they but earlier this afternoon, they re—errierei— but earlier this afternoon, they. re—errierei—ie but earlier this afternoon, they. reerrreir red—re but earlier this afternoon, they. re home office _to but earlier this afternoon, they re home office representative. to a home office representative. irri— a home office representative. iirei ws— a home office representative. that was that— a home office representative. that was that was after the home seereierw — that was that was after the home secretary, suella— that was that was after the home secretary, suella braverman was asked— secretary, suella braverman was esweilwreerriiw— secretary, suella braverman was asked urgently clarify the asked to urgently clarify the situation— asked to urgently clarify the siiweiierr iw— asked to urgently clarify the situation by westminster city cewweii— situation by westminster city cewweii .— situation by westminster city council . well,— situation by westminster city council . well, reform uk's council. well, reform uk's ieeier— council. well, reform uk's leader richard— council. well, reform uk's leader richard tice, has been ewisiie— leader richard tice, has been ewisiie irre— leader richard tice, has been outside the hotel throughout the day outside the hotel throughout the iew erre— outside the hotel throughout the iew are re— outside the hotel throughout the day are ire wew— outside the hotel throughout the day and he now joins me in the siwiie— day and he now joins me in the siwiie. we-ii— day and he now joins me in the studio. we'll talk— day and he now joins me in the studio. we'll talk about what the studio. we'll talk about what iire migreris— studio. we'll talk about what the migrants have been doing in a the migrants have been doing in errerrerw ewe— the migrants have been doing in a moment. but first, i should reve— a moment. but first, i should have beers— a moment. but first, i should have been speaking to you an rewr— have been speaking to you an irewr eee.— have been speaking to you an hour ago. what— have been speaking to you an

hour ago. what happened? so i went— hour ago. what happened? so i were reci— hour ago. what happened? so i were back is— hour ago. what happened? so i went back to belgrave- hour ago. what happened? so i went back to belgrave road in pimlico because i was actually there at 745 this morning when i interviewed one of the migrants who had spent the night outside to understand what was going on. and i've put this video out on wire.— and i've put this video out on iwiiier. ws— and i've put this video out on twitter. it's had— and i've put this video out on twitter. it's had about 800,000 iews— twitter. it's had about 800,000 irr— twitter. it's had about 800,000 ire iwsi— twitter. it's had about 800,000 ire iwsi e— twitter. it's had about 800,000 views in just a matter of hours . arri— views in just a matter of hours . arie ire— views in just a matter of hours . and he expressed concern that the . and he expressed concern that rise rooms— . and he expressed concern that the rooms were— . and he expressed concern that the rooms were too— . and he expressed concern that the rooms were too small and wire— the rooms were too small and that we— the rooms were too small and that the hotel— the rooms were too small and that the hotel actually was smeiiw. — that the hotel actually was smeiiw. i— that the hotel actually was srrreiiw. i ws— that the hotel actually was smelly. i was concerned about we— smelly. i was concerned about we sie— smelly. i was concerned about we ei— smelly. i was concerned about the size of the— smelly. i was concerned about the size of the bathrooms . and the size of the bathrooms. and wris— the size of the bathrooms. and this gentleman— the size of the bathrooms. and this gentleman who's been living in this gentleman who's been living is e— this gentleman who's been living is e herei— this gentleman who's been living is e ireiei irr— this gentleman who's been living in a hotel in ilford_ this gentleman who's been living in a hotel in ilford in essex, where— in a hotel in ilford in essex, where they've— in a hotel in ilford in essex, where they've been moved from where— where they've been moved from wirere ire-s— where they've been moved from where he's been— where they've been moved from where he's been for two years. or.— where he's been for two years. or, ww— where he's been for two years. or, .— where he's been for two years. or, . iws— where he's been for two years. oh, wow . two years. and so not oh, wow. two years. and so not happy— oh, wow. two years. and so not ireprw wiri— oh, wow. two years. and so not ireprw wiiis irre— oh, wow. two years. and so not happy with the size of the ieiirreerr — happy with the size of the bathroom in— happy with the size of the bathroom in central london. and the bathroom in central london. and we good— bathroom in central london. and iire geei ews— bathroom in central london. and the good news is— bathroom in central london. and the good news is there's good we— the good news is there's good we is— the good news is there's good news. he is happy with the qweiiw— news. he is happy with the qweiiw ei— news. he is happy with the quality of the— news. he is happy with the quality of the food. so i'm iiriiiei— quality of the food. so i'm thrilled _that. - quality of the food. so i'm| thrilled _that. .he thrilled about that. but he wesrii— thrilled about that. but he wesi happy— thrilled about that. but he wasn't happy about the quality of rise— wasn't happy about the quality of rise wi—ri — wasn't happy about the quality of rise wi—ri ,— wasn't happy about the quality of the wi—fi , which is a bit of the wi—fi, which is a bit week.— of the wi—fi, which is a bit weak-obviously,- of the wi—fi, which is a bit weak. obviously, behalf of weak. so obviously, on behalf of the weak. so obviously, on behalf of rise eriiisir— weak. so obviously, on behalf of the british taxpayers, do take a iew— the british taxpayers, do take a ieew-iwiiier— the british taxpayers, do take a look-twitter feed. - the british taxpayers, do take a look twitter feed. on look at my twitter feed. but on ieireii—il behalf of british taxpayers, i epeiegise— behalf of british taxpayers, i apologise-had- behalf of british taxpayers, i- apologise-had-wi—fi apologise that he had weak wi—fi in apologise that he had weak wi—fi iw—iirei-s- apologise that he had weak wi—fi in _that's really. in central london. that's really sieewiwe. — in central london. that's really sireewirse. resi— in central london. that's really shocking. just simply good

shocking. just simply not good energi— shocking. just simply not good enoughiand_ shocking. just simply not good enoughiand-so- shocking. just simply not good enough and so that's the enough. and yeah, so that's the wei— enough. and yeah, so that's the reason that they— enough. and yeah, so that's the reason that they are protesting ieeewse— reason that they are protesting ieeewse irre— reason that they are protesting because the accommodation is not eoee— because the accommodation is not good energis— because the accommodation is not good errewgir rer— because the accommodation is not good enough for them. now, it's beers— good enough for them. now, it's been fascinating— good enough for them. now, it's been fascinating hearing the reesireri— been fascinating hearing the reesirerr. i— been fascinating hearing the reaction. i mean, the lefty do eeeiers— reaction. i mean, the lefty do geeiers reve— reaction. i mean, the lefty do gooders have gone completely and wiieriw— gooders have gone completely and wiieriw reis— gooders have gone completely and wiieriw rwis err— gooders have gone completely and utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm a utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm every— utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm e verv bei— utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm a very bad person— utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm a very bad person , apparently. a very bad person, apparently. so a very bad person, apparently. se i— a very bad person, apparently. se i were— a very bad person, apparently. so i went back— a very bad person, apparently. so i went back this afternoon erre— so i went back this afternoon ewe es— so i went back this afternoon erse going— so i went back this afternoon and was going to— so i went back this afternoon and was going to do an interview with— and was going to do an interview wiiir wiri— and was going to do an interview wiiir wiiir veer— and was going to do an interview with with your camera crew to seek— with with your camera crew to sseei is — with with your camera crew to speak to yourself,— with with your camera crew to speak to yourself, direct live irsrr— speak to yourself, direct live irsrr irre— speak to yourself, direct live from the street.— speak to yourself, direct live from the street. but there were some some of these do gooders wis— some some of these do gooders wirs iesieeiiv— some some of these do gooders who basically wouldn't allow us to who basically wouldn't allow us is esrriwei— who basically wouldn't allow us to conduct the— who basically wouldn't allow us to conduct the interview . they to conduct the interview. they sierriirre— to conduct the interview. they were standing right in my face by were standing right in my face iv irre— were standing right in my face iv iire eerrere— were standing right in my face by the camera. so— were standing right in my face by the camera. so it was going to by the camera. so it was going is ie— by the camera. so it was going to be absolutely— by the camera. so it was going to be absolutely impossible. extraordinary— to be absolutely impossible. extraordinary these people. it eses— extraordinary these people. it eses sw— extraordinary these people. it eses srr e— extraordinary these people. it was 3:45 on a friday afternoon. so was 3:45 on a friday afternoon. ss i— was 3:45 on a friday afternoon. ss i esiei— was 3:45 on a friday afternoon. so i asked them— was 3:45 on a friday afternoon. so i asked them what why aren't irrev— so i asked them what why aren't iirev ei— so i asked them what why aren't iirev ei wsrve— so i asked them what why aren't they at work? haven't they got a job they at work? haven't they got a job-they— they at work? haven't they got a isi-iirev seii- they at work? haven't they got a job-they said they- job to go to? they said they ssri— job to go to? they said they ssri-weii,- job to go to? they said they sort-well, it's- job to go to? they said they sort well, it's lunch sort of said, well, it's lunch ireei. — sort of said, well, it's lunch break. _really- sort of said, well, it's lunch break.-really ?- sort of said, well, it's lunch break. really ? so break. i said, really? so i seis— break. i said, really? so i seii,|seii,— break. i said, really? so i said,isaid, i— break. i said, really? so i said, said, i asked them their said, i said, i asked them their names. i names. they refused to answer. i esiei— names. they refused to answer. i esiei iirerr— names. they refused to answer. i asked them where— names. they refused to answer. i asked them where they worked. names. they refused to answer. i askecrefusedvhere they worked. names. they refused to answer. i askecrefused toere they worked. names. they refused to answer. i askecrefused to answer. worked. names. they refused to answer. i askecrefused to answer. iorked. names. they refused to answer. i askecrefused to answer. i asked they refused to answer. i asked iirerrr — they refused to answer. i asked iirerrr ii— they refused to answer. i asked iirerrr ii irrev— they refused to answer. i asked them if they were _ they refused to answer. i asked them if they were on benefits. t hey— them if they were on benefits. irrev—errswer.- them if they were on benefits. they - answer. and i them if they were on benefits. i they-answer. and then they refused to answer. and then i they refused to answer. and then i es— they refused to answer. and then i was informed— they refused to answer. and then i was informed by— they refused to answer. and then i was informed by a— they refused to answer. and then i was informed by a passing rrerreir— i was informed by a passing merrier—irrel i was informed by a passing- member_the public member of the pub of the public iirei— member of the pub of the public iirei-ieerr— member of the pub of the public

that-been taking- member of the pub of the public that been taking drugs member of the pub of the public that earlier been taking drugs member of the pub of the public that earlier around|king drugs member of the pub of the public that earlier around the] drugs member of the pub of the public that earlier around the corner . just earlier around the corner. i just earlier around the corner. i-rrs— just earlier around the corner. i-rrs-wireiirer- just earlier around the corner. i-no-whether they. just earlier around the corner. . i-no-whether they were i have no idea whether they were or i have no idea whether they were sr—iwi— i have no idea whether they were sr—iwi i— i have no idea whether they were sr—iwi i iii- i have no idea whether they were or_but i did ask- or they weren't, but i did ask iirerr— or they weren't, but i did ask iirerrr erre— or they weren't, but i did ask them and they— or they weren't, but i did ask them and they refused to answer or they weren't, but i did ask theneither. hey refused to answer or they weren't, but i did ask theneither. hemean,;ed to answer or they weren't, but i did ask theneither.h(mean, thiso answer or they weren't, but i did ask theneither. hemean, this isanswer that either. i mean, this is extraordinary. _ that either. i mean, this is extraordinary. obviously, extraordinary. well obviously, iirev-re— extraordinary. well obviously, they're _ defend . they're not here to defend themselves. _ they're not here to defend. themselves. _you they're not here to defend- themselves. _you know, themselves. of course, you know, that's just hearsay. but we don't but the fact don't know that. but the fact iirei— don't know that. but the fact. iirei—errswer that they wouldn't even answer iireir— that they wouldn't even answer iireir-wes— that they wouldn't even answer their-was utterly- their name was utterly extraordinary . we they asked me extraordinary. we they asked me my reme— extraordinary. we they asked me my erre— extraordinary. we they asked me my name, and obviously, i'm very happy— my name, and obviously, i'm very happy to— my name, and obviously, i'm very irerrv is give— my name, and obviously, i'm very happy to give it-_ my name, and obviously, i'm very happy to give it. but i'm just iirirriirre— happy to give it. but i'm just. thinking._wouldn't thinking. and so they wouldn't everrw-s— thinking. and so they wouldn't everrw-s is— thinking. and so they wouldn't even us to exercise that even allow us to exercise that rieiri— even allow us to exercise that rieiri si— even allow us to exercise that rigiri si iree— even allow us to exercise that right of free speech. and i'm iirirriirre— right of free speech. and i'm iirirrvirre ,— right of free speech. and i'm thinking , what— right of free speech. and i'm thinking, what is going on here? and thinking, what is going on here? ari irrev— thinking, what is going on here? ari iirev wee— thinking, what is going on here? and they were what, supporting the and they were what, supporting iire miererris— and they were what, supporting the migrants or— and they were what, supporting the migrants or why were they were— the migrants or why were they iireree irrev— the migrants or why were they there? they were _ the migrants or why were they there? they were there to, i guess— there? they were there to, i guess is — there? they were there to, i guess, to offer— there? they were there to, i guess, to offer their support to the guess, to offer their support to iire rrigrerris— guess, to offer their support to iire rrigreris .— guess, to offer their support to the migrants . and look, it's the migrants. and look, it's a iree— the migrants. and look, it's a iree esurrirv. — the migrants. and look, it's a free country. it's— the migrants. and look, it's a free country. it's a democracy . free country. it's a democracy. ivervsrre-s— free country. it's a democracy. everyone's entitled to a point of everyone's entitled to a point si view— everyone's entitled to a point si .— everyone's entitled to a point si . sui— everyone's entitled to a point of view . but to— everyone's entitled to a point of view . but to do that, whilst of view. but to do that, whilst reiusirrg— of view. but to do that, whilst reiusirg is— of view. but to do that, whilst refusing to allow— of view. but to do that, whilst refusing to allow us the right to refusing to allow us the right is iree— refusing to allow us the right to free speech,— refusing to allow us the right to free speech, i— refusing to allow us the right to free speech, i think is wirsiiv— to free speech, i think is wholly unacceptable. and that's why— wholly unacceptable. and that's wirv i-ve— wholly unacceptable. and that's why i-ve esrre— wholly unacceptable. and that's why i've come to— wholly unacceptable. and that's why i've come to the studio . but why i've come to the studio. but it's why i've come to the studio. but is ie— why i've come to the studio. but is iire resi— why i've come to the studio. but it's the fact is— why i've come to the studio. but it's the fact is ,— why i've come to the studio. but it's the fact is , as— why i've come to the studio. but it's the fact is , as the it's the fact is, as the gentleman - it's the fact is, as the gentleman i- it's the fact is, as the gentleman i spoke to, this rrsrrrirrg— gentleman i spoke to, this rrrsrrrirrg, iire— gentleman i spoke to, this morning, the fact that he's esrrrrieirrirrg— morning, the fact that he's ssrrrieirrirrg ,— morning, the fact that he's complaining, a- morning, the fact that he's complaining, a complaining, i iirirri—

complaining, a complaining, i iirirri is— complaining, a complaining, i think is obviously upsetting a lot think is obviously upsetting a isi si— think is obviously upsetting a isi si resrie— think is obviously upsetting a lot of people because it's essiirrg— lot of people because it's essiirrg us— lot of people because it's costing us british taxpayers a isriurre— costing us british taxpayers a isriure .— costing us british taxpayers a isriure . sui— costing us british taxpayers a fortune . but the— costing us british taxpayers a fortune . but the real point we fortune. but the real point we eu— fortune. but the real point we eii egree— fortune. but the real point we can all agree on— fortune. but the real point we can all agree on from whatever siie— can all agree on from whatever siie si— can all agree on from whatever siie si iire— can all agree on from whatever side of the debate— can all agree on from whatever side of the debate you're on is iirei— side of the debate you're on is iirei ire-s— side of the debate you're on is that he's been— side of the debate you're on is that he's been here two years erre— that he's been here two years erri ire-s— that he's been here two years and he's still— that he's been here two years and he's still not— that he's been here two years and he's still not been rrseessei— and he's still not been processed. and i'm guessing many of processed. and i'm guessing many si iris— processed. and i'm guessing many of his colleagues— processed. and i'm guessing many of his colleagues also similar ssri— of his colleagues also similar ssri si— of his colleagues also similar ssri si irre— of his colleagues also similar sort of time. and— of his colleagues also similar sort of time. and this is the psirri— sort of time. and this is the rsirri. why— sort of time. and this is the rsirri. why is— sort of time. and this is the point. why is the backlog taking so point. why is the backlog taking ss is— point. why is the backlog taking ss is isrrg— point. why is the backlog taking so to long process? the prime iiirrisier— so to long process? the prime iiirrisier ies— so to long process? the prime minister has asked , has promised minister has asked, has promised this minister has asked, has promised iiris viii— minister has asked, has promised iiris wiii ie— minister has asked, has promised this will be sorted— minister has asked, has promised this will be sorted out, but is— this will be sorted out, but is rrsi. — this will be sorted out, but it's not. well,— this will be sorted out, but it's not. well, my question reeiiv— it's not. well, my question reeiiv is— it's not. well, my question really is what— it's not. well, my question really is what is- it's not. well, my question really is what is the home oriiee— really is what is the home office doing? _ really is what is the home office doing? all i see them doing is objecting to proposals for suella braverman put something forward. they may not think rwanda is workable. maybe it maybe it isn't. but this it is, maybe it isn't. but this should opportunity should be the opportunity that they would follow the procedures. the home procedures. so if the home secretary them a job, they secretary gives them a job, they shouldn't working shouldn't be working out. oh, well, to do that. well, i don't want to do that. i don't fancy that. if you don't like the like it, leave. but in the meantime, what earth are they meantime, what on earth are they doing managed doing if they haven't managed to process claims people process claims of people who've been years, what been waiting for two years, what do no idea. no one's do they doing? no idea. no one's got do they doing? no idea. no one's gsi-wirei— do they doing? no idea. no one's gsi-wirei iirev-re - do they doing? no idea. no one's got-what they're doing. got any idea what they're doing. wirei—isirrgel

got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes_doing?l got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes it doing? got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes it take doing? got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes it take so doing? got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes it take so long)ing? got any idea what they're doing. whatdoes it take so long to g? how does it take so long to rrseess— how does it take so long to rsess iiris— how does it take so long to process this stuff and as i say, wirei— process this stuff and as i say, wirei i— process this stuff and as i say, wirei i esuii— process this stuff and as i say, what i could agree— process this stuff and as i say, what i could agree with the resrie— what i could agree with the wow! srr— what i could agree with the wow! srr iire— what i could agree with the people on the other side of this ieieie— people on the other side of this ieieie is— people on the other side of this debate is this— people on the other side of this debate is this is— people on the other side of this debate is this is completely irsrei— debate is this is completely isrreei ,— debate is this is completely incorrect , potent. it's utterly incorrect, potent. it's utterly useessi— incorrect, potent. it's utterly useless . and— incorrect, potent. it's utterly useless . and it's- incorrect, potent. it's utterly useless . and it's civil servants useless. and it's civil servants in ie— useless. and it's civil servants irr iire isrre— useless. and it's civil servants in the home office clearly are iusi— in the home office clearly are iusi rrsi— in the home office clearly are iusi rsi eerrvirrg— in the home office clearly are just not carrying out their instructions. _ just not carrying out their instructions. 15- just not carrying out their instructions. 15 to 20 years ago,— instructions. 15 to 20 years egs, iire— instructions. 15 to 20 years ago, the government was prseessirrg — ago, the government was processing illegal immigrants in a processing illegal immigrants in e rreiier— processing illegal immigrants in e rreiier si— processing illegal immigrants in e rreiier si e— processing illegal immigrants in a matter of a couple of weeks, irreiuiirrg— a matter of a couple of weeks, irreiuiirrg iire— a matter of a couple of weeks, including the appeal and then iersriirrg— including the appeal and then deporting people . and now it's deporting people. and now it's ievirrg— deporting people. and now it's ieiirrg iws— deporting people. and now it's taking two years— deporting people. and now it's taking two years plus, plus, rius— taking two years plus, plus, rius .— taking two years plus, plus, rius . ss— taking two years plus, plus, rius . ss ii-s— taking two years plus, plus, plus. so it's not- taking two years plus, plus, plus . so it's not surprising plus. so it's not surprising iiris— plus. so it's not surprising this problem— plus. so it's not surprising this problem is— plus. so it's not surprising this problem is growing. everybody— this problem is growing. ivervisiv is— this problem is growing. everybody is upset. there are no irsrr— everybody is upset. there are no winners from this— everybody is upset. there are no winners from this at all. well, if winners from this at all. well, ii irrev— winners from this at all. well, ii iirev ii— winners from this at all. well, ii iirev ii irrev— winners from this at all. well, if they if they are,— winners from this at all. well, if they if they are, because i'm going— if they if they are, because i'm gsirg is— if they if they are, because i'm gsirg is rui— if they if they are, because i'm gsirg is rui iiris— if they if they are, because i'm going to put this down to i'm rrsi— going to put this down to i'm rsi ever— going to put this down to i'm rsi gsirrg— going to put this down to i'm not even going to blame people like not even going to blame people iiie sueiie— not even going to blame people like suella braverman because irrev— like suella braverman because iirev ere— like suella braverman because iirev iire— like suella braverman because they are like the— like suella braverman because they are like the faces, the ieee — they are like the faces, the face .comes - they are like the faces, the face .comes on - they are like the faces, the face comes on top. ' they are like the faces, the- face .comes on top. and then face that comes on top. and then were-s— face that comes on top. and then there's somebody else and somebody them somebody else. i blame them a little, but i kind blame the little, but i kind of blame the whole the fact that they've had successive home secretaries over a very short period time and a very short period of time and they've got control. rishi they've got no control. rishi sunak the prime minister doesn't

appear control over appear to have any control over what's with his home what's going on with his home secretary and she has no control with the civil who with the civil servants who don't controlled , who don't want to be controlled, who feel control and feel that they're in control and yet if they are, if the civil servants are this, want servants are doing this, i want them to come to the camera. i want see they are because want to see who they are because they're do our they're not going to do what our elected represent doing. elected represent are doing. then people that then who are these people that are be processing are supposed to be processing the don't understand. the claims? i don't understand. if doing their if they're not doing their job, iirerr— if they're not doing their job, iirer irerriiv, — if they're not doing their job, then frankly, should then frankly, they should be iirei. — then frankly, they should be iirei. _we— then frankly, they should be fired-_we-isl then frankly, they should be. fired.-we-is we fired. but what we need is we rreei— fired. but what we need is we need-leaders- fired. but what we need is we need leaders hours in need we need leaders hours in the need we need leaders hours in iire isrre— need we need leaders hours in the home office— need we need leaders hours in the home office ,— need we need leaders hours in the home office , i.e. the the home office, i.e. the rrrirrisiers— the home office, i.e. the ministers and- the home office, i.e. the ministers and the home secretary and ministers and the home secretary erri iire— ministers and the home secretary erri iire prime— ministers and the home secretary and the prime minister say, do vsur— and the prime minister say, do vsurisi— and the prime minister say, do vsurisi sr— and the prime minister say, do vsurisi sr gs— and the prime minister say, do yourjob or go and— and the prime minister say, do yourjob or go and get a iiiiererri— yourjob or go and get a different job.— yourjob or go and get a different job. and we're irirrgirrg— different job. and we're irirrgirrg irr— different job. and we're bringing in some people who eeiueiiv— bringing in some people whoi eeiueiiv—iire actually want to carry out the win— actually want to carry out the will-elected- will of the elected representatives of this country. iirei-s— representatives of this country. iirei-s irsw— representatives of this country. that's how democracy works. but iirei-s— that's how democracy works. but iirei-s wirere— that's how democracy works. but that's where we're— that's how democracy works. but that's where we're at. but iiev-ve— that's where we're at. but iiev-ve sei— that's where we're at. but they've set it— that's where we're at. but they've set it up with, oh, well, it's my mental health, or it's or that. it's this or it's that. literally, of literally, these these kind of woke that sort of woke narratives that sort of infiltrated civil service infiltrated the civil service seem work in their favour. seem to work in their favour. and they now let's and so they are now let's remember it's civil service remember that it's civil service unions within the home office that are part of the legal action to prevent the rwanda

deportation. who then said if irrev— deportation. who then said if iirev isse— deportation. who then said if they lose that— deportation. who then said if they lose that ,— 3" who then said if they lose that , they're going to they lose that, they're going to go they lose that, they're going to gs srr— they lose that, they're going to gs srr siriiee— they lose that, they're going to go on strike? exactly. actually i-ve— go on strike? exactly. actually i-ve seie,— go on strike? exactly. actually i-ve seii, is— go on strike? exactly. actually i've said, do you— go on strike? exactly. actually i've said, do you know what? go on i've said, do you know what? go srr siriie— i've said, do you know what? go on strike. you're— i've said, do you know what? go on strike. you're in— i've said, do you know what? go on strike. you're in breach of ssrrireei— on strike. you're in breach of contract-fired- on strike. you're in breach of contract. fired and go contract. you're fired and go erre— contract. you're fired and go ere—isi.- contract. you're fired and go ere—isi. andl contract. you're fired and go. and—job. and we're and get another job. and we're bringing— and get another job. and we're bringing-some— and get another job. and we're bringing some people who bringing in some people who actually— bringing in some people who. actually—of actually believe in the cause of protecting— actually believe in the cause of protecting our— actually believe in the cause of protecting our borders, keeping us safe— protecting our borders, keeping us safe ,— protecting our borders, keeping us safe , because— protecting our borders, keeping us safe , because that us safe, because that fundamentally is the first role of government.— fundamentally is the first role of government. and tragically , of government. and tragically, hearing— of government. and tragically, we're hearing stories of illegal immigrants— we're hearing stories of illegal immigrants who— we're hearing stories of illegal immigrants who are now being locked— immigrants who are now being locked up— immigrants who are now being locked up for— immigrants who are now being locked up for absolutely heinous and— locked up for absolutely heinous crimes. and we're— locked up for absolutely heinous crimes. and we're saying, hang on, crimes. and we're saying, hang the— crimes. and we're saying, hang on, the government is failing to keep— on, the government is failing to keep ermeh— on, the government is failing to keep british citizens safe. this is getting— keep british citizens safe. this is getting really— keep british citizens safe. this is getting really ,— keep british citizens safe. this is getting really , really ever is getting really, really ever more serious— is getting really, really ever more serious and people are getting— more serious and people are getttng ever— more serious and people are getting ever more furious . more serious and people are getting ever more furious. 't: getting ever more furious. and i tttnt— getting ever more furious. and i tttnt tettty— getting ever more furious. and i think really it's— getting ever more furious. and i think really it's unforgivable for the home office to be striking in this manner because, you know, going with the long in the pieces agency, i think it's just it's just wrong. they're not a of not doing their jobs. a lot of them home working them are at home working from home. to home. but if we come back to these migrants who are actually now ungrateful for now being very ungrateful for the accommodation they're receiving, i get it that they can they've been can be annoyed that they've been hanging years hanging out for two years waiting processing. waiting for processing. they shouldn't be waiting that long.

however, being let however, they're still being let me you, i've been contacted me tell you, i've been contacted by two people, friends of mine who've stayed in this hotel in the of pimlico who said the centre of pimlico who said it's absolutely fine they it's absolutely fine and they are also fuming that at these these migrants who are here at our generosity , at our our generosity, at our hospitality and now complaining that it's not good enough , well, that it's not good enough, well, maybe it's not good enough. actually . why don't you just say actually. why don't you just say i'm actually. why don't you just say t-m getng— actually. why don't you just say t-m getng te— actually. why don't you just say t-m getng to go— actually. why don't you just say i'm going to go home. i'm done. ttt— i'm going to go home. i'm done. ttt tete— i'm going to go home. i'm done. ttt tete. whee— i'm going to go home. i'm done. i'm here. where have— i'm going to go home. i'm done. i'm here. where have they- i'm going to go home. i'm done. i'm here. where have they come from.7 so gentleman i spoke from? so the gentleman i spoke to, from? so the gentleman i spoke te—eeme— from? so the gentleman i spoke tg—eeme-tttgl to, he said he'd come from iraq ttt—tt— to, he said he'd come from iraq ttt—at tete- to, he said he'd come from iraq and—at his word.- to, he said he'd come from iraq and at his word. he. and i take him at his word. he. thet-e— and i take him at his word. he. tttt-e wttt— and i take him at his word. he. that's what he— and i take him at his word. he. that's what he said . and. and that's what he said. and. and tee-e— that's what he said. and. and tee-tete— that's what he said. and. and he's-here two- that's what he said. and. and he's here two years. what he's been here two years. what wttt— he's been here two years. what that mete— he's been here two years. what what more can— he's been here two years. what what more can we— he's been here two years. what what more can we all say.7 tvetytety— what more can we all say.7 ttetytety te— what more can we all say.7 everybody is unhappy with this ettttttett— everybody is unhappy with this situation. he's— everybody is unhappy with this situation. he's unhappy . well, situation. he's unhappy. well, if situation. he's unhappy. well, tt tee-e— situation. he's unhappy. well, tt tee-e unhappy,— situation. he's unhappy. well, if he's unhappy, maybe you etettt— if he's unhappy, maybe you etettt-ge— if he's unhappy, maybe you should go maybe if he's unhappy, maybe you- should - go - maybe say, should just go back, maybe say, toot,— should just go back, maybe say, toot-tent— should just go back, maybe say, look,-isn't working- should just go back, maybe say, look, isn't working out. we look, this isn't working out. we eettt— look, this isn't working out. we eettt pey— look, this isn't working out. we eettt peg tet— look, this isn't working out. we could pay for him _ look, this isn't working out. we could pay for him to go back. tts— could pay for him to go back. ttt ptetttty— could pay for him to go back. it's probably cheaper. - could pay for him to go back. it's probably cheaper. cheaper. the now, can't get the price. now, i just can't get over the fact. pimlico of over the fact. pimlico is one of the parts. mean, if you the nicest parts. i mean, if you if been london if you've not been to london or visited london, is visited london, pimlico is a very part of london. very posh part of london. you've only got to look at my twtttet— you've only got to look at my twitter video— you've only got to look at my twitter video this— you've only got to look at my twitter video this morning to

tt-e— twitter video this morning to tt-e t— twitter video this morning to see it's a wonderful street it's all see it's a wonderful street it's ttt eteeet— see it's a wonderful street it's all stucco funded— see it's a wonderful street it's all stucco funded fronted smart gtegetttee— all stucco funded fronted smart gtegetttee ttt— all stucco funded fronted smart properties and buildings and tetete— properties and buildings and tetete ttt— properties and buildings and hotels and flats— properties and buildings and hotels and flats and houses. tt-e— hotels and flats and houses. tt-e you— hotels and flats and houses. tt-e yet teett— hotels and flats and houses. it's you know, many people would to tete— it's you know, many people would to tote ttte— it's you know, many people would to love live in— it's you know, many people would to love live in such— it's you know, many people would to love live in such a— it's you know, many people would to love live in such a street in teettat— to love live in such a street in central london.— to love live in such a street in central london. but here we are. ant— central london. but here we are. ant ee— central london. but here we are. ant ee there-e— central london. but here we are. and so there's about 30 of them are and so there's about 30 of them ettette— and so there's about 30 of them are outside with— and so there's about 30 of them are outside with all— and so there's about 30 of them are outside with all their etteteeet— are outside with all their suitcases, all— are outside with all their suitcases, all their luggage . suitcases, all their luggage. ween— suitcases, all their luggage. ween .— suitcases, all their luggage. ween . get— suitcases, all their luggage. when i got there at 745 this momtng— when i got there at 745 this memtng, tt— when i got there at 745 this morning, it was— when i got there at 745 this morning, it was pretty fresh and ettttt— morning, it was pretty fresh and chilly, actually,— morning, it was pretty fresh and chilly, actually, i've got to be honest.— chilly, actually, i've got to be honest. yeah— chilly, actually, i've got to be honest. yeah and— chilly, actually, i've got to be honest. yeah and there were many of honest. yeah and there were many et—en— honest. yeah and there were many et—en-ttel of them still asleep on a on the street. — of them still asleep on a on the street. ett— of them still asleep on a on the street. but residents in the area are absolutely fuming. and teete— area are absolutely fuming. and there ete— area are absolutely fuming. and there are pictures— area are absolutely fuming. and there are pictures appearing on twtttet— there are pictures appearing on twtttet et— there are pictures appearing on twitter of beer— there are pictures appearing on twitter of beer bottles and tttnge— twitter of beer bottles and ttttge. ant— twitter of beer bottles and ttttge. ant .— twitter of beer bottles and things. and i tried to speak to a things. and i tried to speak to t eetpte— things. and i tried to speak to t eetgte et— things. and i tried to speak to a couple of them— things. and i tried to speak to a couple of them who are all mtetet— a couple of them who are all mtetet ug— a couple of them who are all masked up with— a couple of them who are all masked up with hoodies. they wetttn-t— masked up with hoodies. they wouldn't speak— masked up with hoodies. they wouldn't speak to and you wouldn't speak to me. and you set— wouldn't speak to me. and you set et— wouldn't speak to me. and you sort of thinking,— wouldn't speak to me. and you sort of thinking, why won't you speak— sort of thinking, why won't you steak—went- speak to me.7 why won't you answer have answer your questions? what have you answer your questions? what have yet-ttme?— answer your questions? what have yet-tttee ant— answer your questions? what have yet-tttee ant .— answer your questions? what have you hide? and i think answer your questions? what have youi hide? and i think answer your questions? what have youi think hide? and i think answer your questions? what have youi think we're and i think answer your questions? what have youi think we're headingink answer your questions? what have youi think we're heading to a it's i think we're heading to a tetttt— it's i think we're heading to a tettty ttt— it's i think we're heading to a really bad place. c really bad place. i think it is vett— really bad place. i think it is very worrying as well, because we don't a lot the time we we don't a lot of the time we haven't processed we haven't processed them. so we don't are. we don't know who they are. we don't know who they are. we don't anything about them. don't know anything about them. and just harbouring and we are just harbouring

people we have no history of people who we have no history of at all. we have no idea. and ttst— at all. we have no idea. and tuet get— at all. we have no idea. and we've just got to— we have no idea. and we've just got to get on with ttte. — we've just got to get on with ttte. vet-te— we've just got to get on with this. you've got— we've just got to get on with this. you've got to process peopte.— this. you've got to process peopte. ant— this. you've got to process people. and frankly , the people. and frankly, the responsibility is actually not on tt-e— responsibility is actually not on we on— responsibility is actually not on us. it's on them to prove who they— on us. it's on them to prove who they — on us. it's on them to prove who they wett— on us. it's on them to prove who they are. well, it's— on us. it's on them to prove who they are. well, it's an- on us. it's on them to prove who they are. c a" c. d they are. well, it's an urgent matter. it's a national security issue. richard tice, thank you so much forjoining me. really good that good to talk to you. that was richard tice. forget , richard tice. don't forget, check his twitter feed. check out his twitter feed. you'll be to that video check out his twitter feed. you'll it's to that video check out his twitter feed. you'll it's gone 0 that video check out his twitter feed. you'll it's gone viral that video check out his twitter feed. you'll it's gone viral .that video check out his twitter feed. you'll it's gone viral . all video there. it's gone viral. all right. this is gb news. coming up a 45 minutes after 4:00. up to a 45 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua in for patrick christys . let's move on the christys. let's move on to the big story. everyone's talking about holly willoughby , is about it. holly willoughby, is she present this she going to present this morning? yes. morning? the answer is yes. she'll monday . morning? the answer is yes. she'll monday. is she'll be doing it on monday. is that right decision? i'm that the right decision? i'm nana on gb news britain's nana akua on gb news britain's news .

the people's. channel well, come back. coming up at 5:00, big news on the 5:00, i'll have big news on the controversy the controversy surrounding the covid inquiry borisjohnson covid inquiry as boris johnson bypasses the government . now, bypasses the government. now, though, to the latest in the phillip schofield scandal, an itv have confirmed holly willoughby will return to present this morning on monday. now she's going to sit alongside fellow presenter josie gibson and speaking out for the first time since leaving the channel. phillip schofield says that he believes his television career is over. you're not wrong. and in interviews with both the bbc

and the sun, he said he feels like a victim of hate and claims he's lost everything. we were mates and, you know, we around the studios, you hang out together. you know, you chat to etee— together. you know, you chat to etch 0g...— together. you know, you chat to each other, that— together. you know, you chat to each other, that sort— 3 you know, you chat to each other, that sort of stuff . each other, that sort of stuff. ant— each other, that sort of stuff. ant then— each other, that sort of stuff. ant tten ttt— each other, that sort of stuff. and then in my— each other, that sort of stuff. and then in my dressing room, ttt— and then in my dressing room, ttt ,— and then in my dressing room, one day , something happened one day, something happened wttet— one day, something happened wttet ,— one day, something happened wttet , you— one day, something happened which , you know— one day, something happened which , you know , obviously i . which, you know, obviously i. wm— which, you know, obviously i. ttttt regret— which, you know, obviously i. will regret forever for him and for will regret forever for him and tet me— will regret forever for him and tet meete— will regret forever for him and for me, mostly him . for me, mostly him. that happened— for me, mostly him. that happened maybe 4 or 5 times over the next few months . acas and the next few months. acas and i'd i know the next few months. acas and m . knew tt-e— acas and i'd i know it's unforgivable . i'd i know it's unforgivable. t-m— i'd i know it's unforgivable. t-m ttt— i'd i know it's unforgivable. m but we— i'd i know it's unforgivable. i'm but we weren't boyfriends. we ween-t— i'm but we weren't boyfriends. we wetett-t ttt— i'm but we weren't boyfriends. we weren't in a— i'm but we weren't boyfriends. we weren't in a relationship . we weren't in a relationship. i tettty— we weren't in a relationship. i tettty tn— we weren't in a relationship. i tettty tn t— we weren't in a relationship. i was really in a mess- we weren't in a relationship. i was really in a mess with- we weren't in a relationship. i was really in a mess with my own sexuality at the time . and it

sexuality at the time. and it just sexuality at the time. and it tnet happened— sexuality at the time. and it tnet ntnnenet .— sexuality at the time. and it just happened . we- sexuality at the time. and it just happened . we can- stzyxgg can g and it just happened . we can speak tinixggt can g and it just happened . we can speak now just happened. we can speak now to tettntttete— just happened. we can speak now to journalists from _ just happened. we can speak now to journalists from the mail on sundav- — to journalists from the mail on sunday. charlotte— to journalists from the mail on sunday. c” sunday. charlotte griffiths at charlotte, thank you so much for joining me. so phillip schofield has finally spoken. what was your take on what was said and did anything sort of spring to mind when you were listening to what he was saying ? well, the what he was saying? well, the first what he was saying? well, the ttnt tntng— what he was saying? well, the ttnt tntng .— what he was saying? well, the first thing i thought— q7” well, the first thing i thought was q7 well, the first thing i thought was after ttnnee— first thing i thought was after prince andrew's— first thing i thought was after prince andrew's tv interview , i prince andrew's tv interview, i tettttty— prince andrew's tv interview, i actually thought _ prince andrew's tv interview, i actually thought the televised mia actually thought the televised mtt cutte— actually thought the televised ntt cntnt ett— actually thought the televised mia culpa era was sort of over. ant— mia culpa era was sort of over. ant .— mia culpa era was sort of over. ant . wne— mia culpa era was sort of over. ant . ytt— mia culpa era was sort of over. and i was you know, i was tttnttng— and i was you know, i was thinking, god,— and i was you know, i was thinking, god, philip, you enttttn-t— thinking, god, philip, you shouldn't have done this. you enttttntt— shouldn't have done this. you shouldn't have— shouldn't have done this. you shouldn't have done this. you shouldn't have done this. you shouldn't have done this. um, shouldn't have done this. you shotldn't have done this. um, shouldn't have done this. you shotldn't islightlyie this. um, shouldn't have done this. you shotldn't islightly think;. um, shouldn't have done this. you shotldn't islightly think he m, and i still slightly think he enttttntt— and i still slightly think he shouldn't have— and i still slightly think he shouldn't have done it, to be nonet— shouldn't have done it, to be honest, because— shouldn't have done it, to be honest, because a lot of what he etytng— honest, because a lot of what he etytng tntt— honest, because a lot of what he was saying that was— honest, because a lot of what he was saying that was believable tntt— was saying that was believable was that-wants- was saying that was believable was that wants this to was that he really wants this to step. — was that he really wants this to step. ant— was that he really wants this to ten ant yet— was that he really wants this to stop. and yet doing the televised— stop. and yet doing the televised interview is only going— televised interview is only gttng to,— televised interview is only gttng to, yet— televised interview is only going to, you know, perpetuate tne— going to, you know, perpetuate tnte ttt— going to, you know, perpetuate this for another— going to, you know, perpetuate this for another god knows how tong.— this for another god knows how ttng. st— this for another god knows how ttng. so my— this for another god knows how long. so my overall impression

etnettty— long. so my overall impression was somebody who genuinely was ntetttng— was somebody who genuinely was ttetttng ttt— was somebody who genuinely was ttetttng ttt nte— was somebody who genuinely was pleading for his own sanity. i tetteve— pleading for his own sanity. i believe that— pleading for his own sanity. i believe that i— pleading for his own sanity. i believe that i thought some of it believe that i thought some of t wee— believe that i thought some of t gutte— believe that i thought some of it was quite hammy. i thought twetttt— it was quite hammy. i thought twetttt tt— it was quite hammy. i thought overall it was— it was quite hammy. i thought overall it was an— it was quite hammy. i thought overall it was an ill advised teetettn. — overall it was an ill advised decision. if— overall it was an ill advised decision. if he— overall it was an ill advised decision. if he really wants the note— decision. if he really wants the tt— decision. if he really wants the tt sten— decision. if he really wants the noise to stop, i'm— decision. if he really wants the noise to stop, i'm not sure he entttt— noise to stop, i'm not sure he entttt newe— noise to stop, i'm not sure he should have done— noise to stop, i'm not sure he should have done not one, but two— should have done not one, but two ttnet— should have done not one, but two filmed interviews because he ttwttew— two filmed interviews because he ttwttew ne— two filmed interviews because he obviously he brought up caroline tttet— obviously he brought up caroline tttet ent— obviously he brought up caroline flack and obviously that was a tenttte— flack and obviously that was a terrible thing— flack and obviously that was a terrible thing . _ flack and obviously that was a terrible thing . terrible thing. some people argue that the press kind of contributed to the actions that she took . obviously, nobody can she took. obviously, nobody can prove that and that is not something that you can say was exactly the case. but he referenced that and do we need to be careful, you know, in the way we cover this? what is your thoughts ? i think i think he was thoughts? i think i think he was ngnt— thoughts? i think i think he was ngnt tt— thoughts? i think i think he was ngnt tt tnng— thoughts? i think i think he was ngnt tt tnng up— 37 i think i think he was right to bring up caroline wttt.— right to bring up caroline tttet. ant— right to bring up caroline flack. and i— right to bring up caroline flack. and i think that itv newe— flack. and i think that itv ntwe, wtt— flack. and i think that itv have, you know, had a few states— have, you know, had a few ettettee tn— have, you know, had a few suicides on their hands over the wette— suicides on their hands over the teen. ant— suicides on their hands over the gene ant ne— suicides on their hands over the years. and he was— suicides on their hands over the years. and he was right to reference that. _ years. and he was right to reference that. and i think that his reference that. and i think that we tteeee— reference that. and i think that we tteeee tt— reference that. and i think that his bosses at itv— reference that. and i think that his bosses at itv have remained ettent. — his bosses at itv have remained ettent. ant,— his bosses at itv have remained ettent. ant, wtt— his bosses at itv have remained silent. and, you know, after we— silent. and, you know, after this televised— silent. and, you know, after this televised interview, it tttttttw— this televised interview, it tttttttw te—

this televised interview, it probably is time for somebody. aaatttw— probably is time for somebody. martin frizell_ probably is time for somebody. martin frizell or— probably is time for somebody. martin frizell or someone high up to— martin frizell or someone high wt to etett— martin frizell or someone high wt to etett ttt— martin frizell or someone high up to speak out because he is a tn tne— up to speak out because he is a man on the edge.— up to speak out because he is a man on the edge. and, you know, we entttt— man on the edge. and, you know, we should tread— man on the edge. and, you know, we should tread carefully around him we should tread carefully around ntn nw— we should tread carefully around him now because— we should tread carefully around him now because as he was on his vene— him now because as he was on his wtne ,— him now because as he was on his wtne , wtt— him now because as he was on his wtne , you knew— him now because as he was on his wtne , you knew, .— him now because as he was on his vape , you know, i did think, vape, you know, i did think, egg,— vape, you know, i did think, ttt, ne— vape, you know, i did think, ttt, ne te— vape, you know, i did think, god, he is on— vape, you know, i did think, god, he is on the edge. i mean, nete— god, he is on the edge. i mean, ne-e wtttng— god, he is on the edge. i mean, ne-e wtttng tn— god, he is on the edge. i mean, he's vaping on you— god, he is on the edge. i mean, he's vaping on you know, whilst tetng— he's vaping on you know, whilst tetng tttnet— he's vaping on you know, whilst being filmed. and— he's vaping on you know, whilst being filmed. and a very being filmed. and he's a very netteeettntt— being filmed. and he's a very professional know, professional man, you know, tttttte— professional man, you know, tttttte tette— professional man, you know, affairs aside, you know, he tntwe— affairs aside, you know, he antwe net— affairs aside, you know, he knows not to _ affairs aside, you know, he knows not to vape on television or knows not to vape on television tt-tetng— knows not to vape on television or- being filmed.- knows not to vape on television or being filmed. so that or whilst being filmed. so that entwe— or whilst being filmed. so that entwe-ntwe- or whilst being filmed. so that shows-have been- or whilst being filmed. so that shows have been under shows he must have been under etene— shows he must have been under extreme-t— shows he must have been under extreme-i think- shows he must have been under extreme-i think .- shows he must have been under extreme i think . and so extreme stress. i think. and so i extreme stress. i think. and so ttntnt— extreme stress. i think. and so ttntnt we— extreme stress. i think. and so i think we should— extreme stress. i think. and so i think we should tread ettettttw— i think we should tread carefully with phil. i think tntt— carefully with phil. i think tntt ttv— carefully with phil. i think that itv have— carefully with phil. i think that itv have a duty of care to gn— that itv have a duty of care to em te— that itv have a duty of care to em te wett— that itv have a duty of care to phil as well as— that itv have a duty of care to phil as well as the— that itv have a duty of care to phil as well as the young lad, as phil as well as the young lad, te-te— phil as well as the young lad, te-te ttt— phil as well as the young lad, te-te ttt tne— phil as well as the young lad, as-as all the staff- phil as well as the young lad, as as all the staff there as well as all the staff there wne— as well as all the staff there wnt etttn — as well as all the staff there who claim that— as well as all the staff there who claim that there was a toxic enwttnnnent— who claim that there was a toxic environment-could- who claim that there was a toxic environment. could he environment. but he could he etttt— environment. but he could he could-victim— environment. but he could he could -victim .this- could be a victim of this etnetttw— could be a victim of this somebody-itv- could be a victim of this somebody itv should somebody senior itv should nttttttw— somebody senior itv should probably enett— somebody senior itv should probably speak out . / probably speak out. yeah, i you knew.— probably speak out. yeah, i you know, obviously, you need to tread carefully. you don't want anything bad to happen to anybody . and but me, anybody. and but for me, watching did get a sense watching it, i did get a sense of did feel a little bit of it did feel a little bit hammy in places. and he's and hammy in places. and if he's and obviously you've to tread obviously you've got to tread carefully anyone one's carefully for anyone one's mental any situation carefully for anyone one's merthen any situation carefully for anyone one's merthen it any situation carefully for anyone one's merthen it bringsany situation carefully for anyone one's merthen it brings you;ituation carefully for anyone one's merthen it brings 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johnson the he was treated. johnson the way he was treated. he repeated and he was hounded, repeated and repeatedly. and i have no idea how boris managed to handle that. and phillip schofield world. this is absolutely of his own making. all of it, you know . and i did notice listening to that there was a lot of i, i, i in that it was all there was a lot about i and i'm more concerned about the young man who was obviously nameless at the moment. a lot of people know who he is. i'm more concerned for his mental health. that's somebody be worried somebody who i'd be worried about. yeah, somebody who i'd be worried about . yeah, definitely . i mean, about. yeah, definitely. i mean, ne-e— about. yeah, definitely. i mean, nete ttwttew— about. yeah, definitely. i mean, he's obviously much— yeah, definitely. i mean, he's obviously much younger. tnttte— he's obviously much younger. tntt-e wnet— he's obviously much younger. that's what this— he's obviously much younger. that's what this whole thing is about — that's what this whole thing is about ant— that's what this whole thing is about. and he— that's what this whole thing is about. and he has his whereabouts- about. and he has his whereabouts have identified whereabouts have been identified on etettt— whereabouts have been identified on social media.— whereabouts have been identified on social media. i— whereabouts have been identified on social media. i think to be ttt— on social media. i think to be tttt tt— on social media. i think to be tttt tt ent,— on social media. i think to be fair to phil, he— on social media. i think to be fair to phil, he did seem like he fair to phil, he did seem like ne we— fair to phil, he did seem like he was genuinely trying to protect— he was genuinely trying to protect that— he was genuinely trying to protect that boy from being ttenttttet — protect that boy from being identified outside of social nette— identified outside of social nettt. .— identified outside of social media. i totally agree with you. were— media. i totally agree with you. tnete we— media. i totally agree with you. tnete t— media. i totally agree with you. there was a lot— media. i totally agree with you. there was a lot of— media. i totally agree with you. there was a lot of i, i, i. and tnen— there was a lot of i, i, i. and tnen ne— there was a lot of i, i, i. and then he corrected— there was a lot of i, i, i. and then he corrected himself at one point— then he corrected himself at one point wnen— then he corrected himself at one nttnt wnen ne— then he corrected himself at one point when he said— then he corrected himself at one point when he said for him or for point when he said for him or ten ne— point when he said for him or for me, mostly— point when he said for him or for me, mostly for— point when he said for him or for me, mostly for him. and i

ttt— for me, mostly for him. and i ttt tttnt— for me, mostly for him. and i did think, oh— for me, mostly for him. and i did think, oh god, that was a counte— did think, oh god, that was a ettnte tt— did think, oh god, that was a couple of seconds where he twenty— couple of seconds where he gwtetw ttt— couple of seconds where he gwtetw ttt t— couple of seconds where he quickly did a sort of add the comment— quickly did a sort of add the etnnent-tt- quickly did a sort of add the comment to make himself quickly did a sort of add the commtslightly to make himself quickly did a sort of add the commtslightly lessnake himself quickly did a sort of add the commtslightly less self—centred sound slightly less self—centred ttete— sound slightly less self—centred tnete. tn,— sound slightly less self—centred tnete. tn, et— sound slightly less self—centred tnete. tn, et ,— sound slightly less self—centred there. um, so , but,— sound slightly less self—centred there. um, so , but, but while there. um, so, but, but while i do there. um, so, but, but while i to tntnt— there. um, so, but, but while i to tntnt nete— there. um, so, but, but while i do think he's trying to protect tntt— do think he's trying to protect tntt nan-e— do think he's trying to protect that man's identity, i think gn— that man's identity, i think phil desperately doesn't want tntt— phil desperately doesn't want tntt-tt— phil desperately doesn't want tntt-tt enett— phil desperately doesn't want that to speak out. no. so that man to speak out. no. so ant— that man to speak out. no. so ant net— that man to speak out. no. so no. and not to— that man to speak out. no. so no. and not to just— that man to speak out. no. so no. and not to just protect him, you— no. and not to just protect him, we knew— no. and not to just protect him, you knew, tt— no. and not to just protect him, you know, of course it will be entw— you know, of course it will be really damaging— you know, of course it will be really damaging for phil if that young— really damaging for phil if that young nan— really damaging for phil if that young man speaks really damaging for phil if that- young man speaks—so but young man speaks out. um, so but i young man speaks out. um, so but . tgtee— young man speaks out. um, so but . tgtee wttt— young man speaks out. um, so but i agree with you. it was— young man speaks out. um, so but i agree with you. it was it- young man speaks out. agtztz it was it was i agree with you. it was it was gutte— i agree with you. it was it was gwtte nanny— i agree with you. it was it was gwtte ntnnw tn— i agree with you. it was it was quite hammy in some- agtztz it was it was quite hammy in some places as wett— quite hammy in some places as wet .— quite hammy in some places as wet. atte— quite hammy in some places as wet. ttte t— quite hammy in some places as well . it's a tricky— quite hammy in some places as well . it's a tricky one because well. it's a tricky one because you— well. it's a tricky one because you never want— well. it's a tricky one because you never want to _ well. it's a tricky one because you never want to say, look, tnte— you never want to say, look, the gut— you never want to say, look, this guvllving- _ you never want to say, look, this guy lying. he's making this guy is lying. he's making it . this guy is lying. he's making tt-. tete— this guy is lying. he's making it . he's dramatising it it all up. he's dramatising it ttt— it all up. he's dramatising it ttt nten— it all up. he's dramatising it too much because you know , if too much because you know, if ne-e— too much because you know, if nete ntwng— too much because you know, if he's having mental health ttttttee— he's having mental health ttttttee ,— he's having mental health troubles , then— he's having mental health troubles , then we should take troubles, then we should take tntt— troubles, then we should take that seriously.— troubles, then we should take that seriously. but but again, it that seriously. but but again, tt-ttt— that seriously. but but again, tt-ttt tt— that seriously. but but again, it-all of his— that seriously. but but again, it-all of his own- that seriously. but but again, it all of his own making it was all of his own making ntneett. — it was all of his own making himself. _few. it was all of his own making. himself. _few lines himself. there were a few lines tntt— himself. there were a few lines tntt ne— himself. there were a few lines tntt ne nette— himself. there were a few lines that he maybe had rehearsed. i think— that he maybe had rehearsed. i think .— that he maybe had rehearsed. i think . ant— that he maybe had rehearsed. i think . and given— that he maybe had rehearsed. i think . and given what- that he maybe had rehearsed. i think . and given what eamonn think. and given what eamonn holmes on gb news how holmes said on gb news about how he things , i he rehearses these things, i noficed he rehearses these things, i noticed and the sun had noticed that sky and the sun had a couple of the same, you know, soundbites. so. oh, well, listen, i've got to ask you very briefly. probably not my place to etu— briefly. probably not my place to eat n.— briefly. probably not my place to call it. well— briefly. probably not my place to call it. well what-

probably not my place to call it. well what do you tntnt— to call it. well what do you think-regards- think now regards to holly? sntttt— think now regards to holly? sntttt ene— think now regards to holly? should she be— think now regards to holly? should she be coming- think now regards to holly? should she be coming back? she's coming back monday. said should she be coming back? she's comdidn'tck monday. said should she be coming back? she's com didn't know monday. said should she be coming back? she's com didn't know anything. said she didn't know anything. his wife anything . but wife didn't know anything. but holly all of that holly was in all of that environment with him all the time. think? what's time. what do you think? what's your come your thoughts? should she come back? starting worry that back? i'm starting to worry that maybe media, you know, maybe the media, you know, accuses the woman in these situations just as much as the man. and maybe there is a little bit man. and maybe there is a little ttt tt— man. and maybe there is a little ttt tt — man. and maybe there is a little bit of sexism there.— man. and maybe there is a little bit of sexism there. i— h“gt“ and maybe there is a little bit of sexism there. i mean, ”a?" and maybe there is a little bit of sexism there. i mean, she is bit of sexism there. i mean, she te tettttw— bit of sexism there. i mean, she is actually innocent— bit of sexism there. i mean, she is actually innocent of all tne.— is actually innocent of all tnte. sne— is actually innocent of all this. she deserves a chance to teet— this. she deserves a chance to come back monday and fight come back on monday and fight for come back on monday and fight ttt-tete— come back on monday and fight ttt-ttte tt— come back on monday and fight for-role at itv— come back on monday and fight for-role at itv .— come back on monday and fight for-role at itv . i- come back on monday and fight for role at itv . i think i'm for her role at itv. i think i'm wew— for her role at itv. i think i'm wew ewnneet. — for her role at itv. i think i'm very surprised. it's— for her role at itv. i think i'm very surprised. it's josie, aewnt.— very surprised. it's josie, actually. there's been so much eneettttttn— actually. there's been so much speculation that— actually. there's been so much speculation that it's going to be speculation that it's going to te-ttnntnt- speculation that it's going to be hammond her speculation that it's going to. be - hammond i her side speculation that it's going to- be- hammond .her side , be alison hammond by her side, but be alison hammond by her side, ttt ene— be alison hammond by her side, but she deserves— be alison hammond by her side, but she deserves the chance to teet— but she deserves the chance to come back and— but she deserves the chance to come back and _a - but she deserves the chance to come back and a go. come back and give it a go. i etee— come back and give it a go. i was also quite— come back and give it a go. i was also quite surprised to see her was also quite surprised to see net entttng— was also quite surprised to see her smiling looking very her smiling and looking very happy— happy on the beach, presumably antwtng— happy on the beach, presumably knowing—t- happy on the beach, presumablyi knowing—a camera knowing that there was a camera attent— knowing that there was a camera ttttnt tne— knowing that there was a camera around the corner.— knowing that there was a camera around the corner. i— knowing that there was a camera around the corner. i mean, not far around the corner. i mean, not ttt—teete- around the corner. i mean, not ttt—tttte tt- around the corner. i mean, not| far—looks of the far away from the looks of the -st .- far away from the looks of the camera-so i if- far away from the looks of the camera-so i if i- far away from the looks of the camera so i if i was her camera angles. so i if i was her nette— camera angles. so i if i was her nettt ttwetn— camera angles. so i if i was her media advisor, i— camera angles. so i if i was her media advisor, i wouldn't be ttwetng— media advisor, i wouldn't be ttwetng net— media advisor, i wouldn't be advising her to— media advisor, i wouldn't be advising her to smile and look jolly— advising her to smile and look jolly ent— advising her to smile and look jolly tnt newe— advising her to smile and look jolly tnt ntwe ,— advising her to smile and look jolly and have , you know, in jolly and have, you know, in tent— jolly and have, you know, in front-cameras.- jolly and have, you know, in front cameras. would jolly and have, you know, in- frontlcameras.-would be front of cameras. but i would be ttwetng— front of cameras. but i would be ttwetng-gwe— front of cameras. but i would be advising-give give- front of cameras. but i would be advising give give her advising her to give give her etteet-entt- advising her to give give her career- shot she career one last shot because she ten-t— career one last shot because she ten-t tettttw—

career one last shot because she isn't actually guilty— career one last shot because she isn't actually guilty of tnwtntng— isn't actually guilty of anything knowing anything except maybe knowing etnetntng. — anything except maybe knowing something. but— anything except maybe knowing something. git something. but we've got no proof yet. well, something. but we've got no proof yet . well, we'll proof of that yet. well, we'll find proof of that yet. well, we'll ttnt ttt— proof of that yet. well, we'll find out whether_ proof of that yet. well, we'll find out whether she- «a; well, we'll find out whether she did or she tttntt. — find out whether she did or she didn't. _charlotte,- didn't. listen, charlotte, it's netw— didn't. listen, charlotte, it's tetttw-tttt- didn't. listen, charlotte, it's really-talklyoul really good to talk to you. went— really good to talk to you. tntnt-et— really good to talk to you.j thank-so-catch really good to talk to you. thank-so-catch with thank you so much. catch up with you—sot- you another time. right. so, tene— you another time. right. so, boris johnson— you another time. right. so, boris johnson has blown apart the boris johnson has blown apart tne—etttne- boris johnson has blown apart the—efforts to. the government's efforts to entttenge — the government's efforts to challenge the _ the government's efforts to challenge the covid 19 inquiry by eenttng— challenge the covid 19 inquiry by eenttng ttt— challenge the covid 19 inquiry by sending all unredacted wnttetnne— by sending all unredacted whatsapps directly to baroness tenet.— whatsapps directly to baroness ttttett. tntt— whatsapps directly to baroness hallett. that means we're in an extttttttntw— hallett. that means we're in an extraordinary situation where it's extraordinary situation where ttte netw— extraordinary situation where ttte tetttw t— extraordinary situation where it's really a case— extraordinary situation where it's really a case of boris tne— it's really a case of boris versus the government. i'm nana atte— versus the government. i'm nana attt tn— versus the government. i'm nana attt en et— versus the government. i'm nana akua on gb news— versus the government. i'm nana akua on gb news britain's news.

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directly to the covid inquiry. the former prime minister told the inquiry's chair he would like to do the same with messages on an old phone. he stopped using due to security concerns . it's after the concerns. it's after the government argued it shouldn't have to hand over what it calls irrelevant material. ministers are preparing for a legal battle with the inquiry with a preliminary hearing on tuesday. the home secretary is being asked to urgently clarify why why a group of asylum seekers were left on the streets of london for two nights. in a letter to suella braverman, the leader of westminster city council expressed deep concern that around 40 refugees were left in the borough on wednesday night without appropriate accommodation. the group reportedly refused to enter a hotel where the home office had allegedly asked them to sleep four per room. around 20 people have been protesting outside the hotel this afternoon . phillip hotel this afternoon. phillip schofield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male

colleague at this morning. but he insists he didn't groom him. the 61 year old resigned from itv last week and was dropped by his agency after admitting to the affair. he says he will comply with an external review committee opened by the broadcaster itv executives have been told to expect questions about their approach to safeguarding when they appear before a parliamentary committee next week. in his first interview since leaving itv, schofield hit out at what he described as relentless criticism and told the bbc he feels broken, ashamed and sorry . ihave feels broken, ashamed and sorry . i have lost everything . my . i have lost everything. my gttte— . i have lost everything. my gttte etwet— . i have lost everything. my girls saved my— i have lost everything. my girls saved my life. if my girls nttn-t— girls saved my life. if my girls nttntt teen— girls saved my life. if my girls hadn't been there, i wouldn't be tete— hadn't been there, i wouldn't be nete teettee— hadn't been there, i wouldn't be here because i'd— hadn't been there, i wouldn't be here because i'd don't see a future— here because i'd don't see a future ttt.— here because i'd don't see a future for. and— here because i'd don't see a future for. and so- here because i'd don't see a future for. and so how much do you— future for. and so how much do we went— future for. and so how much do you want t— future for. and so how much do you want t mtn— future for. and so how much do you want a man to— future for. and so how much do you want a man to take? and are

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tnnntentng— - good afternoon. it's fast tnnntettng— . good afternoon. it's fast approaching. six— good afternoon. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 5:00. — approaching. six minutes after 5:00. _attt— approaching. six minutes after etoe-ante .- approaching. six minutes after 5:00.-akua . this. approaching. six minutes after 5:00. akua . this is a 5:oo. i'm nana akua. this is a te— 5:00. i'm nana akua. this is a en wewe— 5:oo. i'm nana akua. this is a en wewe tn— 5:oo. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on tv,— 5:00. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on tv, online and on ttgtttt— gb news on tv, online and on ttgtttt nette— gb news on tv, online and on ttgtttt ttttt .— gb news on tv, online and on digital radio . now we've got digital radio. now we've got tete— digital radio. now we've got ttte tt— digital radio. now we've got ttte to get— digital radio. now we've got lots to get through, so let's get— lots to get through, so let's get-ant— lots to get through, so let's get-ant we- lots to get through, so let's get and we start with lots to get through, so let's get dramaticlnd we start with lots to get through, so let's get dramatic development/ith lots to get through, so let's get dramatic development in] lots to get through, so let's get dramatic development in the the dramatic development in the row the dramatic development in the new-tente— the dramatic development in the row boris johnson's row over boris johnson's wntteann— row over boris johnson'si whatsapp-and row over boris johnson's— whatsapp-and notebooks whatsapp messages and notebooks . tne— whatsapp messages and notebooks . tne ttnnet— whatsapp messages and notebooks . the former prime— whatsapp messages and notebooks . the former prime minister has tttwn— . the former prime minister has tttwn teett— . the former prime minister has blown apart government's blown apart the government's ettttte— blown apart the government's etttne—tne- blown apart the government'si efforts _the covm efforts to challenge the covid 19_w— efforts to challenge the covid 19-by launching- efforts to challenge the covid 19 by launching a 19 inquiry by launching a ttttettt— 19 inquiry by launching a judicial review . now boris judicial review. now boris tennetn— judicial review. now boris johnson has— judicial review. now boris johnson has written to the chair of johnson has written to the chair tt tne— johnson has written to the chair tt tne tngwttw— johnson has written to the chair of the inquiry, baroness hallett , ent— of the inquiry, baroness hallett , tnt tott— of the inquiry, baroness hallett , tnt tttt net— of the inquiry, baroness hallett , and told her that he will hand ttt— , and told her that he will hand ttt nte— , and told her that he will hand over all his unredacted material ttteettw— over all his unredacted material ttteettw tt— over all his unredacted material directly to her— over all his unredacted material directly to her and— over all his unredacted material directly to her and the cabinet ttttee— directly to her and the cabinet ttttee newe— directly to her and the cabinet office have been— directly to her and the cabinet office have been arguing that meet— office have been arguing that much-material- office have been arguing that much material should much of the material should. tenttn—tt remain confidential because it was unambiguously irrelevant . was unambiguously irrelevant. but was unambiguously irrelevant. ttt tne— was unambiguously irrelevant. but the former— was unambiguously irrelevant. but the former justice eeetetttw— but the former justice secretary, lord charlie tttttnen— secretary, lord charlie faulkner, has backed boris tennetn-e— faulkner, has backed boris johnson's decision in titled to tete— johnson's decision in titled to take tne— johnson's decision in titled to take the view— johnson's decision in titled to take the view that if the tngwtw— take the view that if the tngwtw went— take the view that if the inquiry want to see it, they entttt— inquiry want to see it, they entttt eee— inquiry want to see it, they should see it— inquiry want to see it, they should see it and it's not that twe— should see it and it's not that he get— should see it and it's not that i've got nothing— should see it and it's not that i've got nothing to hide. ti; i've got nothing to hide. he's etwtng.— i've got nothing to hide. he's sayingt tn— i've got nothing to hide. he's saying, in effect,— i've got nothing to hide. he's saying, in effect, they need this to reach a conclusion. it's not clear to me whether or not the material will in fact get to the material will in fact get to the inquiry , because what boris the inquiry, because what boris appears to be saying is i want

to get my notebooks back from the cabinet office so i can then give it to the inquiry. so i don't know whether or not the cabinet office is going to agree. david is very wise. david to my left is very wise. when he says this is all about optics, whether it's about any sort of reality , i've got no idea and reality, i've got no idea and i'm not clear in my own mind as to where the phone, which has the whatsapp messages, which bods the whatsapp messages, which boris has not yet handed over, is as well. i'm joined now by gb wewe— is as well. i'm joined now by gb wewe nettttett— i'm joined now by gb news political reporter olivia wew.— news political reporter olivia uttew. wew,— news political reporter olivia utley. now, some people will be ttetentng— utley. now, some people will be ttetentng tt— utley. now, some people will be listening to that— utley. now, some people will be listening to that and may not newe— listening to that and may not ntwe nettt— listening to that and may not have heard your— listening to that and may not have heard your explanation. so ttet— have heard your explanation. so ttet tt— have heard your explanation. so twet tt exntttn— have heard your explanation. so just to explain what exactly is ntnnentng— just to explain what exactly is happening there. so boris johnson— happening there. so boris johnson has sort of thrown a bit of a grenade under the government. government has government. the government has been arguing over the last week or thatit been arguing over the last week or that it doesn't to or so that it doesn't want to and doesn't feel it should have to over all of boris to hand over all of boris johnson's whatsapp messages in unredacted form to the covid inquiry . now, there are two inquiry. now, there are two potential reasons why they could be reluctant to hand this over.

one, they're one, the reason which they're giving is that they worried giving is that they are worried about dangerous about setting a dangerous precedent. they're that precedent. they're worried that if this covid inquiry is expected to on a long expected to go on for a long time, there is a time, and if there is a precedent all all private precedent for all all private correspondence between ministers and civil servants to be handed oven and civil servants to be handed over, could be a risk over, then there could be a risk of ministers privacy being compromised . the other one, of compromised. the other one, of course, is that there is something whatsapp something on those whatsapp messages that a sitting government minister doesn't want to be seen. that's a sort of more exciting option. it feels relatively unlikely, simply because this inquiry, as because this covid inquiry, as i say, is expected to go on for a long time. so there isn't any imminent danger of damaging or embarrassing messages getting into the public domain. but anyway , the government did not anyway, the government did not want to hand these documents oven want to hand these documents over. it was up to the cabinet office to hand over the documents. the documents. they had the responsibility but boris responsibility. but boris johnson , navigated johnson has succumbed, navigated the cabinet and said, well, johnson has succumbed, navigated the cabinet and said, well , fair the cabinet and said, well, fair enough, i see why you don't want or you don't want or i accept that you don't want to hand over these documents. i can see the preston that you're

talking about, but i don't want my messages to be used as a test case. that's what he said, because he is perfectly happy to hand them over. he has now done that. will the government take this to judicial review as they were threatening to do yesterday? on the face of it , it yesterday? on the face of it, it would seem a bit pointless. the inquiry already has all the messages it so messages that it wants, so what's the need to try and stop them getting them? it doesn't make any sense . it also sounds make any sense. it also sounds as though they have a pretty weak case. multiple lawyers have now lawyers have now weak case. multiple lawyers have now up lawyers have now weak case. multiple lawyers have now up and lawyers have now weak case. multiple lawyers have now up and said,3rs have now weak case. multiple lawyers have now up and said, we �*iave now weak case. multiple lawyers have now up and said, we don'tiow stood up and said, we don't think government has a case think the government has a case because agreed to because the government agreed to the covid inquiry, to the covid inquiry, agreed to a very wide remit for baroness hallett to take whatever material she likes. so it hallett to take whatever material she likes . so it does material she likes. so it does seem pretty weak. but the government might go ahead with a judicial review anyway simply to test the case that there is a risk of ministers privacy being compromised and george freeman , compromised and george freeman, a junior minister on question time last night, put it as even if they lose the case, it will make the make the inquiry make baroness hallett and her

colleagues think carefully before asking ministers to submit it. piles and piles of what they see as unambiguously irrelevant material . so even irrelevant material. so even though it seems a bit pointless , a bit of a moot point at this stage, the government might still judicial still go ahead with its judicial review. or there still go ahead with its judicial review . or there is review. or maybe there is etnetntng— review. or maybe there is something .there - ”cit or maybe there is something there there because something on there there because tet-e— something on there there because tet-e te— something on there there because let's be honest,— something on there there because let's be honest, boris would newe— let's be honest, boris would ntwe teen— let's be honest, boris would have been writing to speaking to tete— have been writing to speaking to lots—ministers- have been writing to speaking to lots—ministers .- lots of different ministers. wette— lots of different ministers. maybe there's— lots of different ministers. maybe there's something tegttttng— maybe there's something regarding rishi sunak on there. you regarding rishi sunak on there. vet-tt— regarding rishi sunak on there. vet-tt ntgtt— regarding rishi sunak on there. you-it might. it- regarding rishi sunak on there. you it might. it might, you know, it might. it might, you— you know, it might. it might, wet—tne- you know, it might. it might, you—the position| you know, it might. it might,l you—the position of you know, show the position of ttnet— you know, show the position of other ministers.— you know, show the position of other ministers. boris has got nttntng— other ministers. boris has got. nttntng—st nothing left to lose anyway. so ne-e— nothing left to lose anyway. so nee-newe— nothing left to lose anyway. so ne-e-ntwe tt. — nothing left to lose anyway. so he's-have it. well,- he's like, have it. well, extettw. — he's like, have it. well, exactly. .we - he's like, have it. well, exactly. we do know , of exactly. and we do know, of course, were course, that there were disagreements the disagreements because of the lockdown in the lockdown files published in the telegraph. matt hancock's messages published. messages were being published. we were we know that there were disagreements within the cabinet, between disagreements within the cabinsunak between disagreements within the cabinsunak , between disagreements within the cabinsunak , who between disagreements within the cabinsunak , who was ween disagreements within the cabinsunak , who was chancellor rishi sunak, who was chancellor at time, and hancock at the time, and matt hancock over how soon and how dramatically to loosen lockdown, restrict options. obviously rishi sunak pushed ahead with the eat out to help out scheme and it sounds from from matt hancock messages as though matt hancock messages as though matt

hancock was pushing back a bit on the eat out to help out scheme because he was worried about the virus spreading over the summer. so yes it is it is plausible that there is some something that on those something like that on those messages and rishi sunak is worried about him as worried about him looking as though as though he wasn't he was more concerned with the economy than keeping the virus in check. it could be something like but government like that. but the government continues to that it is just continues to say that it is just the . and sort of the precedent. and i'm sort of minded believe them. do you minded to believe them. do you think do you think— minded to believe them. do you think do you think but,- do you think do you think but, you knew,— think do you think but, you knew-ttt— think do you think but, you know,.did-out- think do you think but, you. know,.did-out before think do you think but, you knov actuallyd out before think do you think but, you knov actuallyd would ut before think do you think but, you knov actuallyd would ut be'asz that actually it would look as tnttgn—ntntl that actually it would look as. though-hand them though if they didn't hand them ewen-twtng- though if they didn't hand them over,-trying.hide. over, they were trying to hide etnetntng. — over, they were trying to hide something. .you'd- over, they were trying to hide something. you'd have to say, something. so you'd have to say, yeah,— something. so you'd have to say, yeah, unprecedented yeah, have unprecedented access to everything. yeah, sure. you'd newe— to everything. yeah, sure. you'd nave—ttet- have to say that. so they tttettttw— have to say that. so they literally didn't- have to say that. so they literally didn't an option literally didn't have an option , did they, really? politically,- , did they, really? politically, they didn't really have because yes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree because yes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree to because yes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree to the iecause yes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree to the terms; yes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree to the terms ofes, they politically, they didn't really hav agree to the terms of this �*iey did agree to the terms of this inquiry. and did say at the inquiry. and they did say at the time government that time the government that baroness have baroness hallett could have access to essentially whatever she which meant she likes, which has meant that they've rod for they've built a bit of a rod for their own backs. because their own backs. now, because obviously for obviously she is asking for all that it seems that material and it seems a little second little as though on on second thoughts, government thinks, thoughts, the government thinks, hey, a moment. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant a moment. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant to a moment. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant to hand a moment. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant to hand overioment. do thoughts, the government thinks,

heywant to hand over allent. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant to hand over all of:. do thoughts, the government thinks, heywant to hand over all of our» we want to hand over all of our private messages for the course of half year period? of a two and a half year period? but but painted themselves into a corner really by agreeing to the terms reference in the the terms of reference in the first so they have first place. so should they have to gtwe— first place. so should they have to gtwe tnett— first place. so should they have to give their private- �*" f so should they have to give their private things? i mean-tne— to give their private things? i mean,-the mps- to give their private things? i mean, the mps ministers mean, surely the mps ministers newe— mean, surely the mps ministers nave—ttet- have a level of privacy, they entttt— have a level of privacy, they. should -something. so should be allowed something. so teettee—ntt- because that's going to put netnte— because that's going to put netnte-tntt- because that's going to put. people-into politics. people off going into politics. if i people off going into politics. tt t-tntt— people off going into politics. tt t-tntt wtt- people off going into politics. if i that you were going if i thought that you were going to if i thought that you were going tt—nntne- to ask for my mobile phone teettte—ttngi to ask for my mobile phonei records-long i records from however long i went— records from however long i wttt-tt— records from however long i wtttt-tt ,— records from however long i wtttt-tt , te- records from however long i would.to , is it?- records from however long i would to , is it? surely would want to, is it? surely tnttte— would want to, is it? surely tnttte wnw— would want to, is it? surely that's why they- would want to, is it? surely that's why they have to have a ntntetetttt— that's why they have to have a ministerial phone- that's why they have to have a ministerial phone that they use and ministerial phone that they use tnt-nntne.- ministerial phone that they use and-phone. there. and their own phone. there entttt— and their own phone. there shoul certainly- and their own phone. there shoultttzixgt and their own phone. there shoul f gt“ well, certainly that's an argument for that. obviously, ministers trouble ministers have got in trouble before by sort of governing by whatsapp. so suella braverman got, got got sacked only to be reinstated by rishi sunak . but reinstated by rishi sunak. but she got sacked for having a having a conversation on a top secret. what should have been a secure conversation on private secure conversation on a private email chain. and it does seem to be a growing trend of ministers is conversing very casually over whatsapp message. i think there are some who will think, well, it serves you right if you're going to use these sort of back channels of communication, then you're going have accept

you're going to have to accept that, that there is every likelihood do out likelihood that they do get out into public perhaps into the public domain. perhaps they using they should have been using those of those secure methods of communication up those secure methods of conthe nication up those secure methods of conthe very ion up those secure methods of conthe very purpose up those secure methods of conthe very purpose of up for the very purpose of ministers having private conversations. and ministers having private conversations . and perhaps maybe conversations. and perhaps maybe ttete— conversations. and perhaps maybe tnete—ttntt— conversations. and perhaps maybe tnete—ttntt tt- conversations. and perhaps maybe there-limit to the. there should be a limit to the een—ttet- there should be a limit to thei een—tntt-te sort of information that can be tetteetet— sort of information that can be requested-hallett| requested by baroness hallett ent— requested by baroness hallett ent-wtwte- requested by baroness hallett. ent-wtwte-tnew and the likes. maybe what they can and the likes. maybe what they entw— and the likes. maybe what they can only request- and the likes. maybe what they can only request stuff that is tettttw—tn- can only request stuff that is actually-in the. actually specifically in the nettttett— actually specifically in the political sphere on their nettttett— political sphere on their. political-political political emails or political messages—the. political emails or political. messages-the things messages rather than the things tntt— messages rather than the things tntt-tt— messages rather than the things that.do.whatsapp- messages rather than the things that do whatsapp any that they do on whatsapp or any nttwtte— that they do on whatsapp or any private messages- that they do on whatsapp or any private messages / that they do on whatsapp or any private messages t/tziugt“ that they do on whatsapp or any privateztt: essages / that they do on whatsapp or any private sages t/tziugt“ that they do on whatsapp or any private / 1“ that they do on whatsapp or any private would be, i think there's probably an argument for that, although i think although although i think baroness hallett would argue that a lot of these that quite a lot of these conversations political conversations about political conversations about political conversations which were being conversations about political con\about)ns which were being conversations about political con\ about otheriich were being conversations about political con\ about other issuesere being conversations about political con\ about other issues thatzing conversations about political con\ about other issues that the, had about other issues that the, the government says are irrelevant. well she can't tell that they're irrelevant. before she sees them because obviously at the time covid sort of at the time covid was sort of seeping aspect of our seeping into every aspect of our everyday . it's everyday lives. it's fascinating, - : l it's fascinating, isn't it? everyday lives. it's- fascinating, isn't it? olivia wttew— fascinating, isn't it? olivia wttew-wtt- fascinating, isn't it? olivia wttew-wtt et- fascinating, isn't it? olivia utley-you so we utley thank you so much. we enttt—tt- utley thank you so much. we shall-to date. utley thank you so much. we shall-to date on| shall keep you up to date on wet— shall keep you up to date on tntt-etn— shall keep you up to date on that-can also- shall keep you up to date on that can also speak to that story. i can also speak to ttnnet— that story. i can also speak to former labour- that story. i can also speak to former labour party spokesman james— former labour party spokesman james mathewson. james, thank you james mathewson. james, thank wtt et— james mathewson. james, thank you et nten— james mathewson. james, thank you et nten ttt— james mathewson. james, thank you so much forjoining me. ttnee— you so much forjoining me. ttnee wttt-e— you so much forjoining me. james, what's your take all you so much forjoining me. jaithis what's your take all you so much forjoining me. jaithis ? at's your take all

you so much forjoining me. jaithis ? c: )ur take all you so much forjoining me. jaithis ? c: 1“ all you so much forjoining me. jaithis ? c: 1“ well, you so much forjoining me. jaithis ? c: well, i of this? good afternoon. well, i tntnt— of this? good afternoon. well, i tntnt tte— of this? good afternoon. well, i think it's clear,- of this? good afternoon. well, i think it's clear, isn't- of this? good afternoon. well, i think it's clear, isn't it,- of this? c: well, i think it's clear, isn't it, from tntt— think it's clear, isn't it, from that conversation- think it's clear, isn't it, from that conversation you've just net— that conversation you've just ntt tntt— that conversation you've just had that there's- that conversation you've just had that there's a long road tnett— had that there's a long road tnett wnen— had that there's a long road ahead when it- had that there's a long road ahead when it comes to the covid tngttw. — ahead when it comes to the covid tngwtw. st— ahead when it comes to the covid tngwtw. st wette— ahead when it comes to the covid inquiry. so we're-to- ahead when it comes to the covid inquiry. so we're going to have lots of speculation on lots of lots of speculation on lots of lots of speculation on lots of lots of speculation on lots of things to talk about in the coming months, especially . the coming months, especially. but it's you know, it's not all clear. it's not all cut and dry. but i think the sides are taking shape to some of the shape as to some of the rivalries that still exist. certainly in the government, the isn't there sort of a slight worry in some respects that sometimes when you look at things retrospectively with the hindsight sort of we have now the knowledge of the virus and all the things we know, but sometimes you can read those messages in a different way because information we because of the information we have . isn't that a bit of a have now. isn't that a bit of a concern ? yeah- have now. isn't that a bit of a concern ? yeah - have now. isn't that a bit of a concern ? yeah yeah,- isn't that a bit of a concern ? yeah t1/t1;;tgt“ f concern? yeah yeah, certainly. but you have to remember as well that the government knew a lot more we did at the time. more than we did at the time. you know, this information that we that they knew we might know now that they knew at you know, that's at the time and you know, that's exactly why government ministers

are, you know, highly , highly are, you know, highly, highly regarded and sort of supposed to be highly regarded in society because these are important roles where people are making decisions based on information that they're given at the time. and you know, we've got we've got more and of that got more and more of that information now, but we will get to see throughout inquiry to see throughout this inquiry possibly, in the possibly, you know, in the pubuc possibly, you know, in the public , more and more public sphere, more and more information , you know, who information than, you know, who had when who was had information when who was making decisions based on that information. crucially did they make the right decisions ? well, make the right decisions? well, that's always the ” g t:t1;;ti. 7 well, that's always the question, ttnee— that's always the question, ttnee etw— that's always the question, james, stay right there, because that's always the question, jam goingiy right there, because that's always the question, jam going to ight there, because that's always the question, jam going to bring�*iere, because that's always the question, jam going to bring�*iere, lbreaking i'm going to bring some breaking news now. i'm afraid more ettttee— news now. i'm afraid more ettttee tte— news now. i'm afraid more strikes are on- news now. i'm afraid more strikes are on the way. the wntte— strikes are on the way. the unite union- strikes are on the way. the unite union has- strikes are on the way. the unite union has announced that eeewttw— unite union has announced that eeewttw gwttte— unite union has announced that security guards at- unite union has announced that security guards at heathrow attent— security guards at heathrow attnttt-tt— security guards at heathrow airport .to stage - security guards at heathrow airport to stage a series of airport are to stage a series of 33 airport are to stage a series of st teen— airport are to stage a series of 33 fresh strikes- airport are to stage a series of 33 fresh strikes in- airport are to stage a series of 33 fresh strikes in a dispute ewen-wett— 33 fresh strikes in a dispute over.we'll bring- 33 fresh strikes in a dispute over we'll bring you more over pay. we'll bring you more of over pay. we'll bring you more tt tntt— over pay. we'll bring you more tt tnttltne— over pay. we'll bring you more of that.the way. - over pay. we'll bring you more of that the way. you can get of that on the way. you can get tete— of that on the way. you can get tote—wetette - of that on the way. you can get lots -website ,. lots more on our website, cbnnews.com - lots more on our website, cbnnews.com .- lots more on our website, cbnnews.com . check that out. cbnnews.com. check that out. vet-tt— cbnnews.com. check that out. vet-at ttnt— cbnnews.com. check that out. you'll find all- cbnnews.com. check that out. you'll find all the- cbnnews.com. check that out. you'll find all the best tnttwete— you'll find all the best analysis there. right? let's tewtn— analysis there. right? let's tewtn tt— analysis there. right? let's return to james- analysis there. right? let's return to james mathewson now . return to james mathewson now. tnee— return to james mathewson now. james, we were discussing with tegttt— james, we were discussing with tegttt tt— james, we were discussing with tegttt tt tne— james, we were discussing with regard to the strikes and i was

nttnttng— regard to the strikes and i was nttnttng regent— regard to the strikes and i was pointing regard to the covid tngwtw— pointing regard to the covid tngwtw ent— pointing regard to the covid tngwtw tnt t— pointing regard to the covid inquiry and i was pointing out tntt— inquiry and i was pointing out tntt tttttng— inquiry and i was pointing out that looking at- inquiry and i was pointing out that looking at older messages at t— that looking at older messages at t-tt— that looking at older messages at met atten— that looking at older messages at a.of later date- that looking at older messages at a.of later date ,- that looking at older messages at a of later date , it can at a sort of later date, it can ttnt— at a sort of later date, it can ttnt tt— at a sort of later date, it can kind of because- at a sort of later date, it can kind of because we now have the tenettt— kind of because we now have the tenettt tt— kind of because we now have the benefit of hindsight. yeah, but we tttn-t— benefit of hindsight. yeah, but we didn't have- benefit of hindsight. yeah, but we didn't have then. so i'm we didn't have that then. so i'm ttet— we didn't have that then. so i'm twet etneetnet— we didn't have that then. so i'm just concerned that- we didn't have that then. so i'm just concerned that , you know, just concerned that, you know, gttng— just concerned that, you know, gttng tt— just concerned that, you know, we're going to be- just concerned that, you know, we're going to be making twtgenente— we're going to be making judgements based on information that judgements based on information tntt we— judgements based on information that we already- judgements based on information that we already know . do that we already know. do you wnet— that we already know. do you wntt-tntt— that we already know. do you what.that we're- that we already know. do you what that we're actually what is it that we're actually tttttng— what is it that we're actually tttttng ttt— what is it that we're actually looking for.this- what is it that we're actually looking for this message? looking for in this message? wnet— looking for in this message? wttt—tne- looking for in this message?. what-the baroness looking for in this message? w looking the baroness looking for in this message? w looking for the baroness looking for in this message? w looking for ? the baroness looking for in this message? w looking for ? aroness looking for in this message? w looking for ? tgftess looking for in this message? wlooking for ? g; is looking for? i think this is the important it's a really important question that you ask because not looking for because we're not looking for anything, are really, the anything, are we really, as the public, we need to let the inquiry we will inquiry be done and we will get tidbits here and we'll tidbits here and there. we'll get briefings to the press. crucially, you have to crucially, you know, you have to remember that the information that press is that comes out in the press is all briefed. lot of it, you all briefed. a lot of it, you know, be know, and there's going to be competition clearly between different interests in different vested interests in and around the government and the government as well. the former government as well. and clear that boris and it's clear that boris johnson already these johnson already from these actions , you know, no actions today, you know, has no intention for intention of making this for easy rishi sunak. and whether this is about old rivalries this is just about old rivalries or whether there's something this is just about old rivalries or whto ier there's something this is just about old rivalries or whto it' there's something this is just about old rivalries or whto it andre's something this is just about old rivalries or whto it and there'siething more to it and there's information that, you know , that

information that, you know, that certain people want to certain people don't want to come boris johnson's certain people don't want to come for borisjohnson's certain people don't want to come for it borisjohnson's certain people don't want to come for it to borisjohnson's certain people don't want to come for it to come; johnson's certain people don't want to come for it to come outinson's certain people don't want to come for it to come out either happy for it to come out either way. rishi sunak i don't think going into the next general election wants anybody to remember that he was part of that previous government, you know, as the second highest ranking office in the country, as the chancellor. you know, he was up there was he was right up there with bods was he was right up there with boris he boris johnson. i don't think he wants remember wants anyone to remember that. so this whole thing will be embarrassing for. well, of course, embarrassing for. well, of nette— embarrassing for. well, of course, boris took- “g well, of course, boris took the blame for ttettttew— course, boris took the blame for absolutely everything. i mean, netnte— absolutely everything. i mean, petite—new,- absolutely everything. i mean,. people-how,.know, people are saying how, you know, tttttng— people are saying how, you know, talking -schofield i talking about phillip schofield nenttt— talking about phillip schofield mental thinking mental health, i'm thinking nette— mental health, i'm thinking tone-net- mental health, i'm thinking tone-net t- mental health, i'm thinking boris had a thousand boris johnson had a thousand ttnee— boris johnson had a thousand ttnee-ewew- boris johnson had a thousand times every corner . times that from every corner. ant— times that from every corner. ant ne— times that from every corner. ant ne we— times that from every corner. and he was the- times that from every corner. and he was the fall guy for ttettttew— and he was the fall guy for absolutely everything so and he was the fall guy for alwillitely everything so and he was the fall guy for alwill be/ everything so and he was the fall guy for alwill be interesting] so and he was the fall guy for alwill be interesting to so and he was the fall guy for alwill be interesting to find so it will be interesting to find ttt— it will be interesting to find out wnet— it will be interesting to find out what the - it will be interesting to find out what the others really tnttgnt— out what the others really thought because boris took the tttn— thought because boris took the ttt-tt— thought because boris took the flak.it seemed- thought because boris took the flak it seemed like a lot of flak and it seemed like a lot of the flak and it seemed like a lot of tne nette— flak and it seemed like a lot of the media jumped- flak and it seemed like a lot of the media jumped on on the back of the media jumped on on the back tt ttt— the media jumped on on the back tt ttt tt— the media jumped on on the back tt ttt tt tntt. — the media jumped on on the back of all of that. but- the media jumped on on the back of all of that. but.is- the media jumped on on the back of all of that. but is it of all of that. but what is it tntt— of all of that. but what is it tntt ttt— of all of that. but what is it tntt ttt ne— of all of that. but what is it that for me and- of all of that. but what is it that for me and what i want to ttnt— that for me and what i want to ttnt-tttn — that for me and what i want to find .from the - and i find out from the inquiry and i note— find out from the inquiry and i none-ttet— find out from the inquiry and i none-tttt-tt- find out from the inquiry and i none-tttt-tt ,- find out from the inquiry and i hope.look.it , is. find out from the inquiry and i hope look it , is the hope they look into it, is the egg.— hope they look into it, is the ppet-moneyt_ hope they look into it, is the ppe, money, where the money ppe, the money, where the money went— ppe, the money, where the money went tn— ppe, the money, where the money went tn tntt— ppe, the money, where the money went in, that kind- ppe, the money, where the money went in, that kind of things, ent— went in, that kind of things, tnt-wtettng— went in, that kind of things, and.wasting of- went in, that kind of things, and wasting of money and the and the wasting of money and the test and the wasting of money and the eet-ttnee— and the wasting of money and the test.trace,-were- test and trace, if you were tttttng— test and trace, if you were looking-inquiry. looking at this inquiry specifically- looking at this inquiry specifically there anything

looking at this inquiry sp thereflly there anything looking at this inquiry sp there that there anything looking at this inquiry sp there that youtere anything looking at this inquiry sp there that you yourselfhing looking at this inquiry sp there that you yourself would in there that you yourself would like in there that you yourself would ttte tt— in there that you yourself would ttte tt nett— in there that you yourself would like to hear answers to gteetttne— like to hear answers to questions of?- like to hear answers to questions of? yeah, i think tettnttetw. — questions of? yeah, i think definitely. i- questions of? yeah, i think definitely. 1“ definitely. i think often we you know, when people try to hide things or things up or things or cover things up or anything that , we often our anything like that, we often our minds, you know, the minds, you know, go to the deepest often when deepest conspiracies, often when sometimes it can be something, you know, simple if you like, you know, as simple if you like, but no less terrible . and then but no less terrible. and then things like contracts being handed out to people who, you know, have relationships with already. and i mean, if we're being honest, mean , there is being honest, i mean, there is just many cases from boris just so many cases from boris johnson's time in government, whether it be the lebedevs in the house lords , you know, the house of lords, you know, people getting you know, people just getting you know, favours right and centre favours left, right and centre from you know, from boris johnson, you know, because that's the way he lives his i mean, the got because that's the way he lives his his i mean, the got because that's the way he lives his his flatean, the got because that's the way he lives his his flat redecorated got because that's the way he lives his his flat redecorated byot his, his flat redecorated by ringing a mate who gave him money. i don't know about you, but haven't got pal but i haven't got a pal who i can ring to redecorate my living room. so this is the man room. so this is the way the man has functioned for years through favours. but you could favours. but. but you could argue, let's be honest , that argue, and let's be honest, that in general, the government does work in that manner. and

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_ anybody supply us with ventilators? and it was like, who— ventilators? and it was like, wee-you — ventilators? and it was like, wee-yeu-eee-e- ventilators? and it was like,i who .you - let's have ventilators? and it was like,- who .you - let's have a who do you know? let's have a chee— who do you know? let's have a chat—dyson.- who do you know? let's have a chat—dyson. let's. chat with james dyson. let's epeee— chat with james dyson. let's- epeee—knew speak to so—and—so. if you know somebody— speak to so—and—so. if you know somebody-exactly- speak to so—and—so. if you know somebody-exactly .- somebody you know exactly. thee-e— somebody you know exactly. there—so | somebody you know exactly. i that's—so let's that's what i'm saying. so let's be that's what i'm saying. so let's eee—ee— that's what i'm saying. so let's be—ee them- that's what i'm saying. so let's be _to them with. be let's be fair to them with me— be let's be fair to them with ems—you- be let's be fair to them with this—you thinkj be let's be fair to them with. this—you think ? 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it right. we can't afford the mistakes to be made. and if your favouring a pal who's got a company who happens to be able to, know, recalibrate the to, you know, recalibrate the machines to pump out ventilators in in two weeks time, if you're doing that because they're going to make profit it. and to make a profit from it. and then on top of that. so then in turn on top of that. so there's a moral question with that in itself. on top of that , that in itself. on top of that, the goods that are provided aren't up to scratch they aren't up to scratch or they don't even provide the goods properly, you know, we've properly, which, you know, we've seen the seen evidence of throughout the pandemic . and that leads to pandemic. and that then leads to loss of life. frankly , it's loss of life. it's frankly, it's unforgivable. yeah and there were a lot of— filing / and there were a lot of businesses who kept— were a lot of businesses who kept lobbying— were a lot of businesses who kept lobbying the government to say, kept lobbying the government to s.y,_we-ve_ kept lobbying the government to eey-weveweve-l say, look, we've got this, we've got— say, look, we've got this, we've eee-ene — say, look, we've got this, we've gee-ene-wee- say, look, we've got this, we've got and were ignored. got that, and they were ignored. solhear— got that, and they were ignored. solhear you. — got that, and they were ignored. soihear you. and _ got that, and they were ignored. soihear you. and it— got that, and they were ignored. so hear you. and it will be so i hear you. and it will be interesting— so i hear you. and it will be interesting to— so i hear you. and it will be interesting to hear the inquiry. i interesting to hear the inquiry. |_.-m_ interesting to hear the inquiry. i_i'm-borisl i would like to i'm glad boris is i would like to i'm glad boris ie—eu- i would like to i'm glad boris ie—eu eee- is handing over all the materiel. — is handing over all the material. got material. he's actually got nothing— material. he's actually got nothing-.- material. he's actually got nothing-. it's- material. he's actually got nothing . it's the nothing to lose. it's the others.— nothing to lose. it's the others. thank others. james mathewson, thank you others. james mathewson, thank yeu ee— others. james mathewson, thank yeu ee meee.— others. james mathewson, thank you so much-o— others. james mathewson, thank you so much. a former others. james mathewson, thank you so party. a former others. james mathewson, thank you so party spokesperson. labour party spokesperson. thank you labour party spokesperson. thank v0u_-_ labour party spokesperson. thank you—. wen.— labour party spokesperson. thank you—. ueu. tee-e- labour party spokesperson. thank you . well, let's move labour party spokesperson. thank you move . well, let's move labour party spokesperson. thank you move on . well, let's move labour party spokesperson. thank you move on to. well, let's move labour party spokesperson. thank you move on to animalet's move labour party spokesperson. thank you move on to animal rising. ve on, move on to animal rising. erooeeoere— on, move on to animal rising. protesters have— on, move on to animal rising. protesters have vowed to disrupt of— protesters have vowed to disrupt of ooe— protesters have vowed to disrupt one of the biggest— protesters have vowed to disrupt one of the biggest horse races, buo— one of the biggest horse races, ouo-uke— one of the biggest horse races, but-like-didn't. but it looks like they didn't ooouer— but it looks like they didn'tj bother—epsom but it looks like they didn't- bother_epsom today

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on tv online and on digital radio. in a few minutes, i'll tell you about the senior trade union official who's accused the british of supplying british government of supplying arms being used to arms that are being used to commit war crimes. now, what about we move on to one of the biggest events on the horse racing calendar which got underway authorities underway today. the authorities were animals rights were worried that animals rights protesters would disrupt the epsom meeting in april . epsom derby meeting in april. the grand national was disrupted by animal rising. initially, they were animal rebellion. now they were animal rebellion. now they claim that they are . up to they claim that they are. up to 1000 activists will head to iooo activists will head to epsom tomorrow as they target the derby. but the jockey club has been granted a high court injunction to try to tackle any process. we join our national reporter, paul hawkins, who is at epsom now. i'm so well, paul, they didn't they didn't they didn't do anything today at all. no no, nothing today. which isn't a surprise,— no no, nothing today. which isn't a surprise, really,- isn't a surprise, really, if you nnknk— isn't a surprise, really, if you nnknk on— isn't a surprise, really, if you nnknk on n— isn't a surprise, really, if you think of it like— isn't a surprise, really, if you think of it like christmas eve toooy— think of it like christmas eve today one— think of it like christmas eve today and christmas day tomorrow, the tomorrow, when you have the derby. — tomorrow, when you have the derby. -oouko- tomorrow, when you have the derby. could have been derby. so there could have been protest— derby. so there could have been some protest action today . some protest action today. notewo— some protest action today. instead, we've— some protest action today. instead, we've had a day of

uninterrupted— instead, we've had a day of uninterrupted race action, lots of okeonok— uninterrupted race action, lots of alcohol and— uninterrupted race action, lots of alcohol and lots of pink fooee— of alcohol and lots of pink foeee .— of alcohol and lots of pink faces . let's— of alcohol and lots of pink faces . let's talk- of alcohol and lots of pink faces . let's talk to some of faces. let's talk to some of tnen — faces. let's talk to some of tnen now— faces. let's talk to some of them now and— faces. let's talk to some of them now and find out how they do them now and find out how they oo in— them now and find out how they oo in euye— them now and find out how they do it. guys have— them now and find out how they do it. guys have you enjoyed toooye— do it. guys have you enjoyed today? we— do it. guys have you enjoyed today? it's been— do it. guys have you enjoyed today? it's been brilliant. been green — today? it's been brilliant. been great. _great. greati today? it's been brilliant. been greéout gift. great today? it's been brilliant. been greéout the gift. great today? it's been brilliant. been greéout the weather great today? it's been brilliant. been greéout the weather comereat today? it's been brilliant. been greéout the weather come out for day out the weather come out for it. day out the weather come out for in _lo— day out the weather come out for n. _lot of— day out the weather come out for it.-lot of money. - day out the weather come out for it. lot of money. rikki“ it. run a lot of money. well yeah.— it. run a lot of money. well yeon. let-e— it. run a lot of money. well yeon. eet-o get— it. run a lot of money. well yeah. let's get down to business then. much did you win ? then. so how much did you win? £60. 60? well, including your stoke— £60. 60? well, including your stoke on— £60. 60? well, including your stoke wo— £60. 60? well, including your stake or. no, no,— £60. 60? well, including your stake or. no, no, no. it's a quid— stake or. no, no, no. it's a quid wont.— stake or. no, no, no. it's a quid profit. okay, that's all non.— quid profit. okay, that's all non. nnet-e— quid profit. okay, that's all right. that's all— quid profit. okay, that's all right. that's all right. quid profit. okay, that's all right. that's all right . yeah. right. that's all right. yeah. wnat— right. that's all right. yeah. what about— right. that's all right. yeah. rolfe. 178w whoa right. that's all right. yeah. �*vowe. 178w whoa . right. that's all right. yeah. �*vowe. 1780? whoa . “415?" right. that's all right. yeah. - what about £80? whoa . yeah. oh what about £80? whoa. yeah. oh what about £250 on your tutorials. really terry. are the horse yorkshire terrier one. that was the horse . was that in that was the horse. was that in the that was the horse. was that in tne ooke— that was the horse. was that in tne ooke — that was the horse. was that in the oaks or. that's— that was the horse. was that in the oaks or. that's the- was that in the oaks or. that's the only k— the oaks or. that's the only t know— the oaks or. that's the only race i know today. that was the first race. i won it. the first race of the day. okay and is this your first— f :e and is this your first occasion? yeah, noo— fewl this your first occasion? yeah,- no,_a few times. no, we've been here a few times. neon— no, we've been here a few times. neen- okay.— no, we've been here a few times. neen- okoy. n-e— no, we've been here a few times. been- okay. it's always- been good. okay. it's always great-— been good. okay. it's always green — been good. okay. it's always oeot. kenne— been good. okay. it's always great. yeah? yeah. and how did you first time? oh, it you find your first time? oh, it was really, really was so good. really, really good.— was so good. really, really goon-fon- was so good. really, really- good.-for-because good. bit sunny for me because in — good. bit sunny for me because in _we— good. bit sunny for me because k-n—n-e neokky- i'm ginger, but it's really, really— i'm ginger, but it's really, weekly-eon- i'm ginger, but it's really,| really-can relate. i'm ginger, but it's really,- really-can relate. yes. really good. he can relate. yes. oh,— really good. he can relate. yes. oh, yeah.— really good. he can relate. yes. oh, yeah. .— really good. he can relate. yes. oh, yeah. i lost. oh,— really good. he can relate. yes. oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no.- really good. he can relate. yes. ciw oh, no. how oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how muon— oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how nuon eto— oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how nuon no you— oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how much did you know?- oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how much did you know? - ciw oh, no. how much did you know? 17130 ciw oh, no. how much did you know? �*t�*so ciw oh, yeah. i lost. oh, no. how-

much did you know? £150. oh, no . now— much did you know? £150. oh, no . now oe— much did you know? £150. oh, no . now you— much did you know? £150. oh, no . how are you feeling— much did you know? 1750 ciw how are you feeling ? ”like. . how are you feeling? i feel like— . how are you feeling? i feel kke k— . how are you feeling? i feel like i shouldn't have bet. what i bet. there you go. listen to mum. there you go. thanks for towing— mum. there you go. thanks for talking to— mum. there you go. thanks for tokktno to us.— it... there you go. thanks for talking to us. thanks, guys. really— talking to us. thanks, guys. really appreciate it . really appreciate it. honeymoon. - really appreciate it. honeymoon. you- really appreciate it. honeymoon. you can add me on snapchat. thank you. cheers . snapchat. thank you. cheers. cheers. take care.— snapchat. thank you. cheers. cheers. take care. take- f cheers. cheers. take care. take care. tnonk— cheers. take care. take care. tnonk you.— cheers. take care. take care. thank you. cheers “c115 cheers. take care. take care. thank you. cheers “c111 gt thank you. cheers there you go. so you win some, lose some so you win some, you lose some as tomorrow as they say. but tomorrow there's be a much there's going to be a much higher level of vigilance, a much of scrutiny much higher level of scrutiny of people and people around the track. and they think there is going to people around the track. and theanyink there is going to people around the track. and theany protestiere is going to people around the track. and the any protest action going to people around the track. and the any protest action tomorrow , be any protest action tomorrow, then to take place then it's going to take place between one would then it's going to take place betw

wolverhampton— crown court for us here today at wolverhampton crown court. the finn— wolverhampton crown court. the final foun— wolverhampton crown court. the final four members— wolverhampton crown court. the final four members of— wolverhampton crown court. the final four members of a- wolverhampton crown court. the final four members of a 21 person child sex abuse ring have now been sentenced. matthew evans and john griffiths, who were both sentenced on the counts of multiple occasions of rape against a child under the age 13, will serve 17.5 years age of 13, will serve 17.5 years in prison and serving two thirds of that sentence before being eligible for parole. violet griffiths on the charge of causing a child under the age of 13 to engage in penetrative activity, has been sentenced to 15 years in prison. and natasha webb for sexual offences against children , has been sentenced to children, has been sentenced to nine years in prison, serving six years before spending the last three on licence. this case and this sex ring was the biggest. the west midlands police have ever investigated and it was an investigation which ended up taking over six years. the abuses against seven children thought to be under the age of 12 spanned over more than age of 12 spanned over more than a decade, and it was only in 2017 when one of the child children involved was admitted to hospital that they then alerted the police the abuse

alerted the police to the abuse that was going on. detective chief superint paul drover, who investigated this incident and these cases , has said that this these cases, has said that this was some of the most shocking abuse that he has ever seen in his career. and it was one of the biggest investigations that his career. and it was one of the westtst investigations that his career. and it was one of the west midlandsjations that his career. and it was one of the west midlandsjations hast the west midlands police has ever the judge already ever done. the judge already sentenced today, 17 sentenced before today, 17 defendants and final four defendants and those final four were sentenced to wolverhampton crown court today . that's west crown court today. that's west midlands— crown court today. that's west midlands reporter— crown court today. that's west midlands reporterjack- t. : that's west midlands reporter jack carson, wno-e— midlands reporter jack carson, we in— midlands reporter jack carson, who's in wolverhampton crown coun— who's in wolverhampton crown coun eonten— who's in wolverhampton crown court earlier today. now there's tote— court earlier today. now there's tote oe— court earlier today. now there's lots more still— court earlier today. now there's lots more still to— court earlier today. now there's lots more still to come between eno— lots more still to come between ono oeee.— lots more still to come between now and 6:00. don't forget , now and 6:00. don't forget, you-u— now and 6:00. don't forget, you-u nne— now and 6:00. don't forget, you'll find out— now and 6:00. don't forget, you'll find out about the senior node— you'll find out about the senior tnote unon— you'll find out about the senior trade union official who's ooeueet— trade union official who's ooeueet ot— trade union official who's accused of british government supplying— accused of british government supplying arms_ accused of british government supplying arms that are being used— supplying arms that are being ueet to— supplying arms that are being used to commit— supplying arms that are being used to commit war crimes in uknotne.— used to commit war crimes in uknotne. so— used to commit war crimes in ukraine. so keep— used to commit war crimes in ukraine. so keep all your tnouonte— ukraine. so keep all your thoughts coming. gb views gb wewe— thoughts coming. gb views gb news .com or tweet me at gb wewe. — news .com or tweet me at gb wewe. stu— news .com or tweet me at gb news. still to— news .com or tweet me at gb news. still to come, there's a enooktne— news. still to come, there's a enoektno story— news. still to come, there's a shocking story about the london notet— shocking story about the london notet wnene— shocking story about the london hotel where migrants were noontne— hotel where migrants were moaning that— hotel where migrants were moaning that the rooms aren't ne— moaning that the rooms aren't enouen.— moaning that the rooms aren't nice enough. and— moaning that the rooms aren't nice enough. and of course, wett— nice enough. and of course, we'll celebrate— nice enough. and of course, we'll celebrate the big day in the we'll celebrate the big day in tne-vee— we'll celebrate the big day in tne-wee tte- we'll celebrate the big day in the yes it's national the calendar. yes it's national ttet— the calendar. yes it's national non-ento— the calendar. yes it's national tten-cnto ooy— the calendar. yes it's national tten-cnto ooy .- the calendar. yes it's national fish-chip day . i- the calendar. yes it's national fish chip day . i can't wait fish and chip day. i can't wait . i absolutely—

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the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an old phone he stopped using due to security concerns. it's after the government argued it shouldn't have to hand over what it calls a relevant material . it calls a relevant material. ministers are preparing for a legal battle with the inquiry. a parliamentary hearing will be held on tuesday . a 19 year old held on tuesday. a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks against the police and military . matthew king from essex converted to islam and became radicalised during the covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother, who reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the right thing and phillip schofield says he's lost everything . after revelations of everything. after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague at this morning . but colleague at this morning. but he insists he didn't groom him. the 61 year olds has said he'll be forever sorry and that he will comply with an external review commissioned by itv

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john lydon. thank you, bethany. tttn— john lydon. thank you, bethany. ttte ts— john lydon. thank you, bethany. ttte to o— john lydon. thank you, bethany. this is a gb news me all the people's channel. i'm nana akua just coming up to 33 minutes after 5:00 now, a leading union boss has described britain's support for ukraine as an obscenity during the cost of living crisis . speaking at a living crisis. speaking at a virtual event touted as the festival of left ideas, the rmt president said that spending billions and billions on arms to ukraine was an improper use of pubuc ukraine was an improper use of public money and suggested britain was complicit in war crimes. it's an obscenity that neete— crimes. it's an obscenity that needs to— crimes. it's an obscenity that needs to te— ti.” it's an obscenity that needs to be commented on that at a needs to be commented on that at ottne— needs to be commented on that at ottne wnen— needs to be commented on that at a time when workers— needs to be commented on that at a time when workers are ettuoottno— a time when workers are struggling to_ a time when workers are struggling to pay the bills , struggling to pay the bills, wnen— struggling to pay the bills, wnen we— struggling to pay the bills, when we can't— struggling to pay the bills, when we can't afford the food onee — when we can't afford the food onee neet— when we can't afford the food price rises and— when we can't afford the food price rises and energy price ant— price rises and energy price rises. and when— price rises and energy price rises. and when we hear that the government— rises. and when we hear that the government supports an increase in government supports an increase tn tnteneet— government supports an increase in interest rates— government supports an increase in interest rates to— government supports an increase in interest rates to possibly oste— in interest rates to possibly new next— in interest rates to possibly 5.5% next month , at the same 5.5% next month, at the same ttne— 5.5% next month, at the same ttne. we— 5.5% next month, at the same ttne. we one— 5.5% next month, at the same time, we are spending billions ont— time, we are spending billions and billions— time, we are spending billions and billions of— time, we are spending billions and billions of pounds on arms to uknotne. — and billions of pounds on arms to ukraine. this—

and billions of pounds on arms to ukraine. this this is a ooeotutety— to ukraine. this this is a absolutely highly improper use of absolutely highly improper use ot ouotte— absolutely highly improper use of public money. tt”tt; e”tt; absolutely highly improper use of public money. tt”tt; e”»t; of public money. there are war crimes being created , being crimes being created, being carried out in the ukraine with british arms. there are clearly, oteonty— british arms. there are clearly, oteonty usee— british arms. there are clearly, clearly uses being— british arms. there are clearly, clearly uses being put- . there are clearly, clearly uses being put to unten— clearly uses being put to british weapons , which they british weapons, which they enouttn-t— british weapons, which they shouldn't be— british weapons, which they shouldn't be put to . rac rmt shouldn't be put to. rac rmt nneettent— shouldn't be put to. rac rmt president alex— shouldn't be put to. rac rmt president alex gordon gb news tnweettootee. — president alex gordon gb news investigates. ?tt ” president alex gordon gb news investigates. 3tt ” c ”. tt; investigates. reporter charlie peters has all the details on this. and here he is with me now . well, what was he going on about? well alex gordon, the president of the rmt, was actually on to talk about an update for the railway workers and strikes summer. and their strikes this summer. and what's interesting is that he and what's interesting is that ne ootuotty— and what's interesting is that he actually added on that comment— he actually added on that comment-end- he actually added on that comment end his comment at the end of his ottottet— comment at the end of his allotted-at- comment at the end of his allotted-at the- comment at the end of his allotted at the arise allotted speech at the arise teettwot— allotted speech at the arise teettwot .— allotted speech at the arise festival . many— allotted speech at the arise festival . many left wing leading festival. many left wing leading left festival. many left wing leading tent-newes— festival. many left wing leading left-figures were- festival. many left wing leading left figures were at this left wing figures were at this teettwot— left wing figures were at this festival, including john mcdonnell— festival, including john mcdonnell and jeremy and mcdonnell and jeremy corbyn and wet— mcdonnell and jeremy corbyn and tnetn tonnen— mcdonnell and jeremy corbyn and their former communication wonenk— their former communication k ttnee— their former communication worker, james schneider. now wnot-e— worker, james schneider. now what's particularly interesting, i what's particularly interesting, t-ooout— what's particularly interesting, t-oooutwnot— what's particularly interesting, i-about what mr- what's particularly interesting, i about what mr gordon i think, about what mr gordon oett— i think, about what mr gordon oete-meny- i think, about what mr gordon said-many labour. i think, about what mr gordon said many labour mps said was that many labour mps ont— said was that many labour mps and teens— said was that many labour mps and oeene wee— said was that many labour mps and peers were in— said was that many labour mps and peers were in attendance at tnn— and peers were in attendance at tnte wnuot— and peers were in attendance at this virtual event— and peers were in attendance at this virtual event and did not

tntenwene— this virtual event and did not intervene and— this virtual event and did not intervene and did criticise intervene and did not criticise or intervene and did not criticise on oueetton— intervene and did not criticise or question his— intervene and did not criticise or question his comments. tnteeot— or question his comments. indeed, john— or question his comments. indeed, john mcdonnell , the indeed, john mcdonnell, the tonne— indeed, john mcdonnell, the former shadow— indeed, john mcdonnell, the former shadow chancellor thanked ate— former shadow chancellor thanked atex eonton— former shadow chancellor thanked alex gordon .the _ former shadow chancellor thanked alex gordon the end of the alex gordon at the end of the event— alex gordon at the end of the event ton— alex gordon at the end of the event for his— alex gordon at the end of the event for his update on the nottwoy— event for his update on the railway workers— event for his update on the railway workers , but did not railway workers, but did not comment— railway workers, but did not comment on this section of his eoeeon— comment on this section of his eoeeen. wnen— comment on this section of his speech, which i— comment on this section of his speech, which i think is really outte— speech, which i think is really quite extreme.— speech, which i think is really quite extreme. and comes quite extreme. and it comes wttntn— quite extreme. and it comes within_think,| quite extreme. and it comes. within—think, of within the context, i think, of a within the context, i think, of o tot— within the context, i think, of o tot ot— within the context, i think, of a lot of criticism— within the context, i think, of a lot of criticism from russia going— a lot of criticism from russia ootno towonte— a lot of criticism from russia going towards britain for its supply— going towards britain for its euooty ot— going towards britain for its supply of weapons. the ambassador— supply of weapons. the ambassador from moscow to london this ambassador from moscow to london tnte week— ambassador from moscow to london tnte week eoytne— ambassador from moscow to london this week saying that britain nteke— this week saying that britain neke ouentno— this week saying that britain risks pushing the conflict into a new dimension— risks pushing the conflict into a new dimension with its outpou— a new dimension with its euooon. nut— a new dimension with its support. but also, i think it stands— support. but also, i think it etonte tn— support. but also, i think it stands in contrast to the otttotot— stands in contrast to the official labour- stands in contrast to the official labour party position, when— official labour party position, wnton we— official labour party position, which we know— official labour party position, which we know that keir starmer is which we know that keir starmer to key— which we know that keir starmer to weny ttnnty— which we know that keir starmer to weny ttnnty tn— which we know that keir starmer is very firmly in support of the ouent— is very firmly in support of the current stance— is very firmly in support of the current stance that the government - current stance that the government has towards ukraine wttt— government has towards ukraine wttn funding— government has towards ukraine with funding arms— government has towards ukraine with funding arms visited kyiv in with funding arms visited kyiv tn tn— with funding arms visited kyiv tn tn tetnuony— with funding arms visited kyiv in in february and offered a wey— in in february and offered a weny wann— in in february and offered a very warm stance towards towards nneettent— very warm stance towards towards president zelenskyy. it's also not— president zelenskyy. it's also not tne— president zelenskyy. it's also not the first— president zelenskyy. it's also not the first trade union oonnnnent— not the first trade union comment we've seen from from tote— comment we've seen from from tnote unon—

comment we've seen from from trade union representatives and eaten— trade union representatives and leaders about— trade union representatives and leaders about this— trade union representatives and leaders about this conflict last week— leaders about this conflict last week tne— leaders about this conflict last week tne ucu— leaders about this conflict last week the ucu, the education unton— week the ucu, the education unton .— week the ucu, the education union , passed— week the ucu, the education union , passed a— week the ucu, the education union , passed a motion at its union, passed a motion at its neettne— union, passed a motion at its neettne tn— union, passed a motion at its meeting in glasgow which teeetoet— meeting in glasgow which described ukraine as an armed ont— described ukraine as an armed and illiberal_ described ukraine as an armed and illiberal outpost of us in tnoentotten— and illiberal outpost of us in imperialism, a— and illiberal outpost of us in imperialism, a very strident and key— imperialism, a very strident and weny ktnt— imperialism, a very strident and weny ktnt ot— imperialism, a very strident and very kind of russian focussed tonouoee— very kind of russian focussed language which— very kind of russian focussed language which the ucu general eeeetony— language which the ucu general eeeetony. jo— language which the ucu general secretary, jo grady— language which the ucu general secretary, jo grady , disavowed secretary, jo grady, disavowed ont— secretary, jo grady, disavowed end not— secretary, jo grady, disavowed end not to— secretary, jo grady, disavowed and had to rush— secretary, jo grady, disavowed and had to rush out a statement and had to rush out a statement oeouote— and had to rush out a statement oeouote ot— and had to rush out a statement oeouote ot toye— and had to rush out a statement a couple of days later urging nen— a couple of days later urging her members— a couple of days later urging her members not— a couple of days later urging her members not to leave the unon— her members not to leave the oeoouee— her members not to leave the union because of— her members not to leave the union because of this statement. so union because of this statement. so no— union because of this statement. so we— union because of this statement. so we nove— union because of this statement. so we take .— union because of this statement. so we take . t— union because of this statement. so no, we have , i think, so no, we have, i think, momentum towards some some trade unon— momentum towards some some trade union representatives— momentum towards some some trade union representatives making tnese— union representatives making these comments— union representatives making these comments . union representatives making these comments. union representatives making these comments . : these comments. but why would he include that in his discussion when he's talking about striking ? why is he bringing that into it? well, i got to do with anything. he raised it in the context— anything. he raised it in the context ot— anything. he raised it in the context of the _ anything. he raised it in the context of the of— anything. he raised it in the context of the of the- g he raised it in the context of the of the cost of tone — context of the of the cost of living crisis. _ context of the of the cost of living crisis. so- context of the of the cost of living crisis. g living crisis. so he's talking about the potential, the rising inflation, . inflation, rising food prices. and i think gordon was trying and i think mr gordon was trying to know, to suggest that, you know, it's improper use of public money to send these funds to ukraine at the time when we're also having problems at home, essentially

saying that we can't be doing this. he went further this. but he went further than that, course, with this idea that, of course, with this idea that, of course, with this idea that is complicit in war that britain is complicit in war crimes because of this, because of this funding. when the of this funding. when i put the question rmt rmt today question to the rmt rmt today asking evidence do you do asking what evidence do you do you have for this view that britain is involved war britain is involved in war crimes by virtue of funding? they didn't answer that question, they did provide question, but they did provide a statement which i think we have now from the rmt when they we spoke to them. yeah. and the rmt said that rmt has repeatedly condemned vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine and called for the immediate withdrawal of russia's military forces from the country. so they stuck to their official position. mr gordon, i think, has slightly gone off track there, but they would not justify or refute any of the claims he made. and of course the labour— of the claims he made. and of course the labour party,- ti.e : and of course the labour party, who take — course the labour party, who take teen— course the labour party, who have been supportive or euooontwe— have been supportive or supportive of- have been supportive or supportive of the war wouldn't nove— supportive of the war wouldn't take teen— supportive of the war wouldn't nowe oeen noooy— supportive of the war wouldn't have been happy with that ettnen. — have been happy with that either. well,— have been happy with that either. well, we- have been happy with that either. �*1ftt1tt;.. ”tt;eti.ttt: have been happy with that either. i: either. well, we reached out to the labour party today . they the labour party today. they they very strong response they gave a very strong response because they have several of

their mps and peers here. we have the response now, have the response here. now, these of the these are not the views of the labour keir starmer's labour party with keir starmer's leadership. they be leadership. they will never be any about whose side any confusion about whose side labouris any confusion about whose side labour is on. britain nato freedom and democracy . and those freedom and democracy. and those four mps, john mcdonnell, kim johnson, bell ribeiro—addy and kate , kate osborne, all kate, kate osborne, all belonging to the left of the party, all of them backbenchers . not reflecting an . so very much not reflecting an official government or shadow government position, but very extreme nonetheless. well, listen , charlie peters,- well, listen , charlie peters, thank listen, charlie peters, thank you— listen, charlie peters, thank you wey— listen, charlie peters, thank you weny muon— listen, charlie peters, thank you very much for that. very tnteneettno— you very much for that. very interesting indeed. we shall tottow— interesting indeed. we shall tottow tnot— interesting indeed. we shall follow that .— interesting indeed. we shall follow that . if— interesting indeed. we shall follow that . if he something follow that. if he has something to-ntneett— follow that. if he has something to-ntneett .— follow that. if he has something to himself . thanks, anna. to say himself. thanks, anna. tnonk— to say himself. thanks, anna. tnonk-nuon- to say himself. thanks, anna. thank-much .- to say himself. thanks, anna. thank-much . all. to say himself. thanks, anna. thank much . all right. thank you very much. all right. not— thank you very much. all right. tne-counse— thank you very much. all right. that course, charlie that was, of course, charlie teee.— that was, of course, charlie teee-to— that was, of course, charlie peters. to incredible peters. now to an incredible stony— peters. now to an incredible stony-nenet- peters. now to an incredible story migrants who story of the migrants who barricaded— story of the migrants who barricaded hotel in barricaded their hotel in centnot— barricaded their hotel in central london barricaded their hotel in. central london _the barricaded their hotel in- central london _the rooms central london because the rooms tent— central london because the rooms oent ne— central london because the rooms aren't nice enough.— central london because the rooms aren't nice enough. of all once— aren't nice enough. of all places-pimlico- aren't nice enough. of all places pimlico , a very, very places in pimlico, a very, very ne— places in pimlico, a very, very non— places in pimlico, a very, very non ot— places in pimlico, a very, very nice part of london. you've nice part of london. if you've eeonon-tt- nice part of london. if you've ever-london, you- nice part of london. if you've ever london, you will ever been to london, you will know— ever been to london, you will know-eee — ever been to london, you will know-eee tne— ever been to london, you will know see the double front, know they see the double front, the know they see the double front, tne-otttone— know they see the double front, the - pillars-the - know they see the double front, the pillars the front the lovely pillars at the front noon-t— the lovely pillars at the front loon-t-tnot- the lovely pillars at the front . don't that everywhere. . you don't get that everywhere. tnot-e— . you don't get that everywhere. that's—building. that's an expensive building. aeytun— that's an expensive building.. asylum—protesting asylum seekers were protesting on tne— asylum seekers were protesting on tne etneet— asylum seekers were protesting on the street because they're newne— on the street because they're nowne to— on the street because they're having to share— on the street because they're having to share rooms the having to share rooms at the ntntteo—onel

having to share rooms at the pimlico—one ofi having to share rooms at the. pimlico—one of the pimlico comfort inn. one of the ntononte— pimlico comfort inn. one of the ntononte oett— pimlico comfort inn. one of the migrants said that— pimlico comfort inn. one of the migrants said that they were pimlico comfort inn. one of the migraitreated that they were pimlico comfort inn. one of the migraitreated like they were pimlico comfort inn. one of the migraitreated like animals. 'e being treated like animals. tteten— being treated like animals. reform .leader- being treated like animals. reform leader richard tice reform uk leader richard tice totnet— reform uk leader richard tice totnet ne— reform uk leader richard tice totnet ne tn— reform uk leader richard tice joined me in the— reform uk leader richard tice joined me in the studio a little eontten— joined me in the studio a little eontten ont— joined me in the studio a little earlier and he— joined me in the studio a little earlier and he was— joined me in the studio a little earlier and he was stopped from eoeoktne— earlier and he was stopped from eoeoktnolue— earlier and he was stopped from speaking .us from _ earlier and he was stopped from speaking us from outside the speaking to us from outside the note— speaking to us from outside the note oy— speaking to us from outside the note oy-wno— speaking to us from outside the hotel by-who had- speaking to us from outside the hotel by who had gathered . hotel by some who had gathered. and hotel by some who had gathered. ant t— hotel by some who had gathered. ant t oeket— hotel by some who had gathered. and i asked him— hotel by some who had gathered. and i asked him what happened and wnet— and i asked him what happened end we woe— and i asked him what happened and what was the— and i asked him what happened and what was the scene like . and what was the scene like. so i and what was the scene like. so t went— and what was the scene like. so t went took— and what was the scene like. so t went took to— and what was the scene like. so i went back to belgrave- and what was the scene like. so i went back to belgrave road in pimlico because i was actually there at 745 this morning when an i interviewed one of the migrants who had spent the night outside to understand what was going on. and i've put this video out on twitter . it's going on. and i've put this video out on twitter. it's had about 800,000 views just about 800,000 views in just a matter hours . and he matter of hours. and he expressed concern that the rooms were too small and that the hotel actually was smelly. and he was concerned about the size of the bathrooms . and this of the bathrooms. and this gentleman who's been living in a hotel in ilford in essex, where they've been moved from where he's been for two years. oh, wow. two years. and so not happy with the size of the bathroom in central london. and the good news is there is good news. he is happy with the quality of the

food. so i'm thrilled about that . happy about the . but he wasn't happy about the quality of the wi—fi, which is a bit weak. so obviously, on behalf of the british taxpayers bit weak. so obviously, on behalf oiald! british taxpayers bit weak. so obviously, on behalf oiald! bitake taxpayers bit weak. so obviously, on behalf oiald! bitake aixpayers bit weak. so obviously, on behalf oiald! bitake aixpaytat , doddie aid do take a look at my view, but on behalf my twitter view, but on behalf of taxpayers, of british taxpayers, i apologise that he had wi—fi of british taxpayers, i apcentral that he had wi—fi of british taxpayers, i apcentral london. had wi—fi of british taxpayers, i apcentral london. that's wi—fi of british taxpayers, i apcentral london. that's really—fi in central london. that's really shocking. good shocking. just simply not good enough. yeah, so that's the enough. and yeah, so that's the reason that they are protests fighting because the accommodation is not good enough for now it's been for them. now it's been fascinating hearing the reaction . i mean, the lefty do gooders have gone completely and utterly nuts on twitter . and have gone completely and utterly nuts on twitter. and i'm a very bad person. apparently so i went back this afternoon and was going to do an interview with with your camera crew to speak to yourself, direct, live from with your camera crew to speak to ystreetf, direct, live from with your camera crew to speak to ystreet . direct, live from with your camera crew to speak to ystreet . buttct, live from with your camera crew to speak to ystreet . but there 1e from with your camera crew to speak to ystreet . but there weren with your camera crew to speak to ystreet . but there were some the street. but there were some some of these do gooders who basically wouldn't allow to us conduct the interview. they were standing right in my face by the camera . so it was going to be camera. so it was going to be absolutely impossible . the fact absolutely impossible. the fact is, the gentleman i spoke to this morning, the fact that he's complaining, a complaining, i think is obviously upsetting a

lot of people because it's costing us, british taxpayers a fortune in. but the real point, we can all agree on from whatever side of the debate you're on is that he's been here two years and is still not being processed. and i'm guessing many of his colleagues also similar sort of time . and this is the sort of time. and this is the point why is the backlog taking so long to process? the prime minister has has asked , has minister has has asked, has promised this will be sorted out , but it's not. my question neotty— , but it's not. my question neotty te— , but it's not. my question really is what— , but it's not. my question really is what is- , but it's not. my question really is what is the- my question really is what is the home onke— really is what is the home office doing?— really is what is the home office doing? all i see them done— office doing? all i see them totne te— office doing? all i see them doing is objecting to proposals . so— doing is objecting to proposals . so suetto— doing is objecting to proposals . so suella braverman put eonetntne— . so suella braverman put something forward. they may not tntnk— something forward. they may not tntnk kwonto— something forward. they may not think rwanda is— something forward. they may not think rwanda is workable. maybe it think rwanda is workable. maybe tt to.— think rwanda is workable. maybe tt to. woyoe— think rwanda is workable. maybe it is. maybe.isn't._ think rwanda is workable. maybe it is. maybe isn't. there it is. maybe it isn't. but there enoutt— it is. maybe it isn't. but there enoutt oe— it is. maybe it isn't. but there should be opportunity that should be the opportunity that we— should be the opportunity that tney-tottow— should be the opportunity that they-follow the - they would follow the procedures. - they would follow the - procedures. _home procedures. so if the home seeetony—o- procedures. so if the homei secretary—a job, procedures. so if the home- secretary_a job, they secretary gives them a job, they enouttn-t— secretary gives them a job, they shouldn't-working— secretary gives them a job, they shouldn't working out. oh, secretary gives them a job, they shoulin't working out. oh, secretary gives them a job, they shouli don't working out. oh, secretary gives them a job, they shouli don't wanting out. oh, secretary gives them a job, they shouli don't want toi out. oh, secretary gives them a job, they shouli don't want toi outhat.. well, i don't want to do that. i ton-t— well, i don't want to do that. i ton-t toney— well, i don't want to do that. i ton-t toney-tt— well, i don't want to do that. i don't fancy- if you - well, i don't want to do that. i don't fancy if you don't don't fancy that. if you don't ttke— don't fancy that. if you don't ttke tt— don't fancy that. if you don't like it, leave.— don't fancy that. if you don't like it, leave. but— don't fancy that. if you don't like it, leave. but in the nneontnnet— like it, leave. but in the meantime, are they meantime, what on earth are they doing?— meantime, what on earth are they doin9?_managedl doing? if they haven't managed to ooess— doing? if they haven't managed to process claims— doing? if they haven't managed to process claims of people wo-wne— to process claims of peoplei wno-we—two who've been waiting for two yens— who've been waiting for two. yeons—wo years, what are they doing? no tteo. — years, what are they doing? no teen. to— years, what are they doing? no idea. no one's— years, what are they doing? no idea. no one's got- years, what are they doing? no idea. \ttif» gt». : idea. no one's got any idea what they're the are they're doing. what the hell are

they're doing. what the hell are they take so they doing? how does it take so long stuff? and long to process this stuff? and as i could agree as i say, what i could agree with the people on the other side of this debate is this is completely incompetent. it's utterly useless . it's civil utterly useless. it's civil servants in the home office. clearly just not carrying out their instructions. 15 to 20 years ago, the government was processing illegal immigrants in a matter of a couple of weeks, including the appeal and then deporting people . and now it's deporting people. and now it's taking two years plus plus plus. so it's not surprising . this so it's not surprising. this problem is growing every body is upset. there are no winners from this at all. was richard tice earlier today. now let's bring you— earlier today. now let's bring you soe— earlier today. now let's bring you some breaking— tte”. : now let's bring you some breaking news. it tne— you some breaking news. it concerns the riots in cardiff test— concerns the riots in cardiff tost week— concerns the riots in cardiff last week after— concerns the riots in cardiff last week after two teenage boys ktttet— last week after two teenage boys were killed in— last week after two teenage boys were killed in a— last week after two teenage boys were killed in a collision. anount— were killed in a collision. around about— were killed in a collision. around about 150 people rioted in around about 150 people rioted tn tne— around about 150 people rioted in the streets— around about 150 people rioted in the streets after the ooottent. — in the streets after the accident. and south wales police nove— accident. and south wales police nowe now— accident. and south wales police have now arrested— accident. and south wales police have now arrested 17 males and ttnee— have now arrested 17 males and three females— have now arrested 17 males and three females aged between 14 ont— three females aged between 14 end so— three females aged between 14 end so on— three females aged between 14 and 36 on suspicion of riot .

and 36 on suspicion of riot. tney-we— and 36 on suspicion of riot. tney-we teen— and 36 on suspicion of riot. they've been released on police tott— they've been released on police tott wnttst— they've been released on police bail whilst the— they've been released on police bail whilst the investigation ootnues— bail whilst the investigation ootnues .— bail whilst the investigation continues . 16— bail whilst the investigation continues . 16 year old kyrees continues. 16 year old kyrees sutttwon— continues. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and— continues. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15— continues. 16 year old kyrees sullivan and 15 year old harvey twons— sullivan and 15 year old harvey twons ttet— sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans died shortly— sullivan and 15 year old harvey evans died shortly after they were captured— evans died shortly after they were captured on cctv being tottowet— were captured on cctv being tottowet oy— were captured on cctv being followed by a— were captured on cctv being followed by a police van and one of followed by a police van and one ot howey-s— followed by a police van and one of harvey's aunts— followed by a police van and one of harvey's aunts ,— followed by a police van and one of harvey's aunts , hayley of harvey's aunts, hayley murphy/t— of harvey's aunts, hayley ttunony. sett— of harvey's aunts, hayley murphy, said last weekend that the murphy, said last weekend that tne teenooes— murphy, said last weekend that the teenagers were chased to wet— the teenagers were chased to their deaths— the teenagers were chased to their deaths by— the teenagers were chased to their deaths by south wales oottoe— their deaths by south wales oottoe .— their deaths by south wales oottoe . wow— their deaths by south wales police . now it's— their deaths by south wales police . now it's a special day police. now it's a special day for police. now it's a special day ton tons— police. now it's a special day ton tons ot— police. now it's a special day for fans of the— police. now it's a special day for fans of the uk's most ooouton— for fans of the uk's most popular food. _ for fans of the uk's most popular food. yes, it's national ttst— popular food. yes, it's national ttsn ont— popular food. yes, it's national ten and onto— popular food. yes, it's national fish and chip day.— popular food. yes, it's national fish and chip day. i'm nana akua . tnts— fish and chip day. i'm nana akua . tnts ts— fish and chip day. i'm nana akua . tnts ts on— fish and chip day. i'm nana akua . this is gb news— fish and chip day. i'm nana akua . this is gb news britain's news

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everything for everybody starting at the bottom , tories starting at the bottom, tories will promise to reward workers starting at the top marginals won't turn out as heard heard it all before and neither do what they pledge. les i'm afraid that sounds like politics to me. brian's been in touch regarding earlier, we talked about muslim terrorism . um, brian says muslim terrorism. um, brian says muslim terrorism. um, brian says muslim terrorism make the country safe and start mass deportations. i don't think that's going to work. is it? because the lot of them, actually them, brian, are actually british so british born terrorists. so that's the problem we've got there right . well, keep there right. well, keep your messages , but let's get messages coming, but let's get more top of our top stories. more on top of our top stories. animal rights activists threatening to disrupt one of the most famous races in the most famous horse races in the most famous horse races in the the which is the world, the derby, which is in tomorrow. i was joined in epsom tomorrow. i was joined in epsom tomorrow. i was joined in studio a little earlier in the studio a little earlier by mcgovern animal by nathan mcgovern from animal rising, here's he had rising, and here's what he had to . so what love for to to say. so what i'd love for to us to— to say. so what i'd love for to us to ts— to say. so what i'd love for to us to ts nove— to say. so what i'd love for to us do is have a— so what i'd love for to us do is have a national conversation _ us do is have a national conversation about our broken netottonsnto— conversation about our broken netonotunott— conversation about our broken rela natural world. you know, the the natural world. you know, the tookey— the natural world. you know, the tookey-onnos— the natural world. you know, the jockey - brings .that - jockey club brings up that stottstto. — jockey club brings up that statistic. they— jockey club brings up that statistic. they say 98% of noses— statistic. they say 98% of horses - home - statistic. they say 98% of horses home from races statistic. they say 98% of- horses-home from races safe horses come home from races safe ont— horses come home from races safe and sound— horses come home from races safe and sount vou— horses come home from races safe and sound. you know, if we look at and sound. you know, if we look ot—tootoott- and sound. you know, if we look

atihad-football,- and sound. you know, if we look at had two football, and sound. you know, if we look at had two footballersiall, and sound. you know, if we look at had two footballers dying we had two footballers dying eweny— we had two footballers dying eweny eweny— we had two footballers dying every every saturday, our 3:00 ktok— every every saturday, our 3:00 ktok otto— every every saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, would _ every every saturday, our 3:00 kick offs, would still have kick offs, would we still have tnot— kick offs, would we still have that-around?— kick offs, would we still have that-around? i- kick offs, would we still have that around? i don't think that sport around? i don't think so. that sport around? i don't think _totktnei so. and that's not even talking about— so. and that's not even talking about-took.— so. and that's not even talking about .track, off _ so. and that's not even talking about track, off track about off track, off track oeotns. — about off track, off track deaths. you _ about off track, off track deaths. you know, about off track, off track- deaths. you know,_don't deaths. you know, these don't oet— deaths. you know, these don't even get recorded. things happen on stootes— even get recorded. things happen on stables—are- even get recorded. things happen on stables are taken on stables when horses are taken otte— on stables when horses are taken otten — on stables when horses are taken after races, when— on stables when horses are taken after races, when they of after races, when they die of neon— after races, when they die of neon-tnon - after races, when they die of heart _from the - heart attacks from the overexertion - heart attacks from the overexertion them overexertion that we put them tnnouen— overexertion that we put them tnnouen-you- overexertion that we put themi through _you-look overexertion that we put them i through _you - look , through. but, you know, look, the animals, the animal people who are looking after these horses, so the jockeys and so on and so forth will say that they love these animals and these animals it if the animals wouldn't do it if the animals wouldn't do it if the animal didn't want to. i mean, do that argument? do you buy into that argument? you do think that the you know, i do think that the oeoote— you know, i do think that the people involved— you know, i do think that the people involved in this tntustny— people involved in this. industry,-majority industry, the vast majority of tnen. — industry, the vast majority of them,-animals- industry, the vast majority of them, animals as long as them, do love animals as long as tney-ne— they're within the industry. you know.— they're within the industry. you know—nent] know, kevin blake last night, you— know, kevin blake last night, youw-os— know, kevin blake last night, you-woslknowi know, kevin blake last night,- you _was,-know, jaw you know, he was, you know, jaw tnoooet— you know, he was, you know, jaw tnoooet to— you know, he was, you know, jaw dropped to .floor_ dropped to the floor at the suooestton— dropped to the floor at the suggestion-£4- dropped to the floor at the suggestion £4 billion suggestion this £4 billion tntustny— suggestion this £4 billion industry—afteri suggestion this £4 billion- industry_after these industry would look after these noses— industry would look after these nonses—nootno. l horses if there wasn't racing. ant— horses if there wasn't racing. ant tnot-s— horses if there wasn't racing. and that's really— horses if there wasn't racing. and that's really what we need toltooktne— and that's really what we need toltooktno ot— and that's really what we need to.looking at is— and that's really what we need to looking at is how do we to be looking at is how do we took— to be looking at is how do we took-tnese— to be looking at is how do we. look-these _without look after these animals without tnen — look after these animals without them _themselves- them hurting themselves on race tnookse — them hurting themselves on race tnookse _took.- them hurting themselves on race tracks? _look, an- tracks? yeah, but look, an animal hurt itself. animal could hurt itself. if it's in the wild, it's running out in the wild, an animal hurt itself if it's animal could hurt itself if it's just doing its own thing, even animal could hurt itself if it's jusits)ing its own thing, even animal could hurt itself if it's jusits)ing iwithout,|ing, even animal could hurt itself if it's jusits)ing iwithout, you even animal could hurt itself if it's jusits)ing iwithout, you know, on its own, without, you know, somebody as a jockey.

somebody riding it as a jockey. they horses. put they love the horses. they put a lot into the sport. so lot of money into the sport. so these after . these horses are looked after. and goals of and ultimately, your goals of looking after these is looking after these horses is similar. it just that you similar. is it just that you don't like what they're doing with want with the horses and you want them what it them to stop? is that what it is? ultimately, what this is, is? so ultimately, what this is, it's of we're using it's an issue of we're using these for something you these animals for something you know, be doing know, they wouldn't be doing otherwise . you know, horses, otherwise. you know, horses, tney—you- otherwise. you know, horses, tney—you know| otherwise. you know, horses,- they_you know, they they love to run, you know, they towe— they love to run, you know, they towe-tnnouon— they love to run, you know, they love _through _you i love to run through fields. you know.— love to run through fields. you know, even through know, maybe even through woottonts. — woodlands. if they are wild oontes— woodlands. if they are wildi oontes—tney ponies or anything. but they ton-t— ponies or anything. but they ton-t-to— ponies or anything. but they ton-t-to ts- ponies or anything. but they don't-do is have- ponies or anything. but they don't do is have someone don't love to do is have someone jump— don't love to do is have someone tuno on— don't love to do is have someone jump on tnetn— don't love to do is have someone jump on their back,— don't love to do is have someone jump on their back, put bit in jump on their back, put a bit in tnetn— jump on their back, put a bit in we noutn— jump on their back, put a bit in their mouth and— jump on their back, put a bit in their mouth and them for their mouth and whip them for tnen — their mouth and whip them for. tnen _tnen them to run on. okay. but then if didn't that, surely if they didn't like that, surely they wouldn't do it. i mean, you know, the know, you put a bit in the horse's it wasn't horse's mouth. if it wasn't going it, it throw going to do it, it could throw you off. it's bigger animal you off. it's a bigger animal than be the than you and that would be the end so this absolutely end of you. so this absolutely toes— end of you. so this absolutely does—some horses does happen with some horses tnot— does happen with some horses tnot tust— does happen with some horses that just decide— does happen with some horses that just decide they get that just decide that they get wet— that just decide that they get tnetn—ant- that just decide that they get their—and whati that just decide that they get. their—and what the that just decide that they get the does, and what the that just decide that they get the does, you and what the that just decide that they get the does, you let and what the that just decide that they get the does, you let and explain te bit does, if you let me explain to-wewens— bit does, if you let me explain to -viewers,-is. bit does, if you let me explain to-viewers,-is it| to your viewers, perhaps, is it outs— to your viewers, perhaps, is it. puts—excruciating puts the horse into excruciating ootn— puts the horse into excruciating ootn. so— puts the horse into excruciating ootn. so tne— puts the horse into excruciating pain. so the jockey has complete oontnot— pain. so the jockey has complete oontnot oe— pain. so the jockey has complete control over the— pain. so the jockey has complete control over the horse with the bit control over the horse with the ttt oeuse — control over the horse with the bit because of— control over the horse with the bit because of the— control over the horse with the bit because of the pain that tts— bit because of the pain that tt-s ooustno— bit because of the pain that it's causing, causing, causing it. _essentially, - it's causing, causing, causing it. essentially, you it. and that essentially, you know.— it. and that essentially, you know. ts— it. and that essentially, you know, is making— it. and that essentially, you know, is making the horse submit to tne—

know, is making the horse submit to tne-tne— know, is making the horse submit to the _the jockey. - know, is making the horse submit to the the jockey. and to the will of the jockey. and tnot— to the will of the jockey. and tnot-sount- to the will of the jockey. and that-sound-nicel to the will of the jockey. and. that-sound-nice to that doesn't sound very nice to me— that doesn't sound very nice to me . wo— that doesn't sound very nice to me . to. tt— that doesn't sound very nice to me . no, it doesn't- that doesn't sound very nice to me . \»tif» . . ttg me. no, it doesn't sound very nice at all. but it is a big day, though. this sounds good for foodies everywhere. it's national day. yes, for foodies everywhere. it's natithel day. yes, for foodies everywhere. it's natithe chance day. yes, for foodies everywhere. it's natithe chance for day. yes, for foodies everywhere. it's natithe chance for us day. yes, for foodies everywhere. it's natithe chance for us to ay. yes, it's the chance for us to celebrate one of great britain's best loved meals. and i'm delighted to i'm joined by delighted to say i'm joined by geoff whitehead, who's owner delighted to say i'm joined by gewhitehead's d, who's owner delighted to say i'm joined by gewhitehead's d, wiand owner delighted to say i'm joined by gewhitehead's d, wiand chipwner of whitehead's fish and chip shop, officially the shop, which is officially the best shop in the best fish and chip shop in the uk. i love it. i'm so happy. i love fish and chips. okay, so what's your best dish? oh oh, without a doubt. haddock and owns— without a doubt. haddock and ontos wttt— without a doubt. haddock and chips with mushy— t:ttt. haddock and chips with mushy peas, of course . nouuook— chips with mushy peas, of course . haddock and— chips with mushy peas, of course . haddock and chips,- chips with mushy peas, of course . haddock and chips, not- chips with mushy peas, of course . haddock and chips, not cod. what's better? why is haddock better ? no, no. definite better? no, no. definite nottook. — better? no, no. definite haddock. all- better? no, no. definite haddock. all day long i might have to swap because i'm going to have fish and chips tonight because i'm getting really hungry now, now, now. what's the secret, hungry now, now, now. what's the seoet tnouone — hungry now, now, now. what's the secret, though? beautiful . secret, though? beautiful. wnot-s— secret, though? beautiful. wnot-s tne — secret, though? beautiful. what's the secret- secret, though? beautiful. what's the secret to- secret, though? what's the secret to the best ttst— what's the secret to the best ten and — what's the secret to the best fish and chips— what's the secret to the best fish and chips ? _ what's the secret to the best fish and chips ? touting fish and chips? consistency. making sure that your ingredients from , um, your fish ingredients from, um, your fish to your to your flour to the fry medium that you're frying in,

it's all top quality. and then obviously your customer service on top of that as well . but each on top of that as well. but each each area has its own, its own variety. obviously each area has its own, its own variety . obviously our area is variety. obviously our area is tottow.— variety. obviously our area is haddock, hence— variety. obviously our area is haddock, hence the- tt;.y obviously our area is haddock, hence the reason why i sett— haddock, hence the reason why i sott nottook— haddock, hence the reason why i said haddock ,— haddock, hence the reason why i said haddock , you— haddock, hence the reason why i said haddock , you go further said haddock, you go further tntont. — said haddock, you go further tntont. tts— said haddock, you go further inland. it's cod's- said haddock, you go further inland. . ittt»: : inland. it's cod's the preferred choice . i'm i try and switch to choice. i'm i try and switch to haddock, though, because i will stick to cod, but i haven't tried the haddock. really. what's the .”tt;t: ::i really. what's the difference? is it sttontty— what's the difference? is it sttontty-ttke- what's the difference? is it slightly like more slightly what is it like more ttsny— slightly what is it like more new ttsny— slightly what is it like more fishy fishy taste cod is a wetten. — fishy fishy taste cod is a wetter. it's— fishy fishy taste cod is a wetter. it's a- fishy fishy taste cod is a wetter. . t.ti. fishy fishy taste cod is a- wetter. it's a much wetter fish , chunkier flakes, whereas haddock, drier and it's also a little bit sweeter than what cod is. oh i've got a sweet tooth. i might give that a go. and the test— i might give that a go. and the best accompaniment for me , for best accompaniment for me, for tts— best accompaniment for me, for tt-s nusny— best accompaniment for me, for me, it's mushy peas. what's the test— me, it's mushy peas. what's the test tntno— me, it's mushy peas. what's the test tntnoleo— me, it's mushy peas. what's the best thing-go with- me, it's mushy peas. what's the best thing go with them ? best thing to go with them? wett. — best thing to go with them? wett. os— best thing to go with them? wet. to tt— best thing to go with them? well, as it stands— best thing to go with them? well, as it stands right- best thing to go with them? well, as it stands right now, there seems to be a craze on gravy with with fish chips . gravy with with fish and chips. don't ask me why. uh, much, much prefer peas . curry as well.- prefer peas. curry as well. nosstoty— prefer peas. curry as well. possibly curry— prefer peas. curry as well. possibly curry with- curry as well. possibly curry with it. but otnen— possibly curry with it. but otnen tnon— possibly curry with it. but other than that, it's got to be

oeos— other than that, it's got to be oeos ott— other than that, it's got to be oeos ott toy— other than that, it's got to be peas all day long. well, i'm going— peas all day long. well, i'm ootno to— peas all day long. well, i'm ootno to te— peas all day long. well, i'm going to be having fish and ones— going to be having fish and ontostotoy. — going to be having fish and chips today. \tif»�*tlt" going to be having fish and chips today. \tt:tttt�* i going to be having fish and chips today. \tt:tttt i ’.tif»�* g chips today. now because tonight when i get home. because i can't wait, i wish you could wait, jeff and i wish you could send you're too far send me some, but you're too far away, you so away, jeff. but thank you so much really talk to much for really good to talk to you. is jeff you. lovely that is jeff whitehead. the of whitehead. he's the owner of whitehead's shop, whitehead's fish and chip shop, which named and which was named the fish and chip of year in march. chip shop of the year in march. but he's has some good fish and chips. well, listen, stay with us. of course, this is gb news live on online and on live on tv, online and on digital dewberry digital radio. michelle dewberry is next. oh, i'm hungry. is up next. oh, i'm hungry. keen.— is up next. oh, i'm hungry. yeah,-listening- is up next. oh, i'm hungry. yeah,-listening to- .. “ttx. oh, i'm hungry. yeah, listening to him is up next. oh, i'm hungry.- yeah,-listening to him and yeah, i was listening to him and he yeah, i was listening to him and ne ws— yeah, i was listening to him and ne giving— yeah, i was listening to him and ne giving us— yeah, i was listening to him and he was giving us the secrets he was giving us all the secrets of he was giving us all the secrets ot—o— he was giving us all the secrets ot—o 90°d- he was giving us all the secrets ot—o eoot ttsn- he was giving us all the secrets of_a good fish and| of what makes a good fish and ontos. — of what makes a good fish and. ontos. —onuotot chips. he missed out the crucial _two- chips. he missed out the crucial one._two actually.| one. well, there's two actually. nonton— one. well, there's two actually. nonton- — one. well, there's two actually. portion -. there's - one. well, there's two actually. portion . g portion size. there's nothing worse than having a good fish and but you are to and chips. but then you are to get chips. don't like it. get any chips. i don't like it. i that. then whether get any chips. i don't like it. i you at. then whether get any chips. i don't like it. i you get then whether get any chips. i don't like it. i you get scraps,i whether get any chips. i don't like it. i you get scraps, that ether get any chips. i don't like it. i you get scraps, that is er or not you get scraps, that is very no but it is very important. no but it is thatis very important. no but it is that is very important . do you that is very important. do you get scraps or not? oh, is that something that's swept up from the the packet the floor and put in the packet to make authentic? no to make it look authentic? no scraps god, how do scraps. it's like, god, how do i do you not? you must know what sonoso— do you not? you must know what scraps are. don't— do you not? you must know what scraps are. don't have- t:ttt 7 you must know what scraps are. "lit“ . scraps are. don't have scraps. where am . all right. okay. how

where am. all right. okay. how do i what where am. all right. okay. how do i-what-are?. do i explain what scraps are? sonoos— do i explain what scraps are? seeps-ttke- do i explain what scraps are? scraps-like bits- do i explain what scraps are? scraps like bits of scraps are just like bits of ttke.— scraps are just like bits of like, batter— scraps are just like bits of like, batter that they scoop up, ont— like, batter that they scoop up, and tt-s. — like, batter that they scoop up, and tt-s. ant— like, batter that they scoop up, and it's. and then— like, batter that they scoop up, and it's. and then they shove it on-on— and it's. and then they shove it on-on ttke— and it's. and then they shove it on-oh, like that?- and it's. and then they shove it on oh, like that? yes on the top. oh, like that? yes sonoos— on the top. oh, like that? yes sonoos one— on the top. oh, like that? yes sonoos wey.— on the top. oh, like that? yes scraps are very, very important. i scraps are very, very important. t-oon— scraps are very, very important. t-oon tutee- scraps are very, very important. t-oon tuteeloootl i think you can judge a good chipm— i think you can judge a good chippy-or- i think you can judge a good chippy-or n0t- i think you can judge a good chippy or not they do chippy whether or not they do sonoso — chippy whether or not they do sonoso _tnot-s- chippy whether or not they do scraps-that's it.- scraps. anyway, that's it. tue— scraps. anyway, that's it. you've made _ scraps. anyway, that's it. you've made me not want to do my snow.— you've made me not want to do my snownne-— you've made me not want to do my snownne- wont- you've made me not want to do my show.-me want to- you've made me not want to do my show.-me want to .tol show. you made me want to go to the show. you made me want to go to tne-now.— show. you made me want to go to tne-now-oon-t- show. you made me want to go to tne-now-oon-t .- the chippy now, but i can't. twe— the chippy now, but i can't. twe-toots— the chippy now, but i can't. i've-loads-up. the chippy now, but i can't.| i've-loads-up on the chippy now, but i can't.- i've-loads-up on my i've got loads coming up on my snow— i've got loads coming up on my snow oy— i've got loads coming up on my snow toy tne— i've got loads coming up on my snow oy tne wey.— i've got loads coming up on my show by the way, i— i've got loads coming up on my show by the way, i want to talk about— show by the way, i want to talk ooout—toi about the hotel bars. i want to tow— about the hotel bars. i want to totk-antnot— about the hotel bars. i want to talk animal rising loads talk about animal rising loads of talk about animal rising loads ot stutt— talk about animal rising loads of stuff. don't— talk about animal rising loads of stuff. don't go— talk about animal rising loads of stuff. don't go anywhere. talk about animal rising loads of sall. don't go anywhere. talk about animal rising loads of sall on )n't go anywhere. talk about animal rising loads of sall on the go anywhere. talk about animal rising loads of sall on the way. where. talk about animal rising loads of sall on the way. it's all on the way. thank you so stay tuned so much, michelle. stay tuned for up next. for michelle. it's up next. hello and welcome to latest hello and welcome to your latest toneoost— hello and welcome to your latest toneoost.—.- hello and welcome to your latest forecast._. afteri forecast. i'm mark wilson. after onotnen— forecast. i'm mark wilson. after another-across- forecast. i'm mark wilson. after another- across the- another dry week across the oountny— another dry week across the oountny .— another dry week across the oountny . tnot— another dry week across the country , that fine weather country, that dry fine weather kooks— country, that dry fine weather. looks _throughout looks set to continue throughout this-more— looks set to continue throughout this more sunshine to this weekend. more sunshine toi come, although a little bit more cloud— come, although a little bit more| cloud—areas cloud across some eastern areas at-we— cloud across some eastern areas at-we-at— cloud across some eastern areas at-we-at the- at times. we look at the pressure pattern. then can at times. we look at the preswhy pattern. then can at times. we look at the preswhy highern. then can at times. we look at the preswhy high pressure can at times. we look at the preswhy high pressure centred| see why high pressure centred just— see why high pressure centred just towards— see why high pressure centred just towards north of the uk just towards the north of the uk and—where- just towards the north of the uk and—where n- just towards the north of the uk and—where it has. and that's been where it has been— and that's been where it has been for— and that's been where it has been for much— and that's been where it has been for much of— and that's been where it has been for much of working been for much of the working week. — been for much of the working week—that- been for much of the working week._that high. been for much of the working- week._that high we're week. and around that high we're going—do...- week. and around that high we're going—do... at- week. and around that high we're going cloud at times going to see some cloud at times pushing— pushing in from the north sea. so pushing in from the north sea. so—towards- pushing in from the north sea. so _towards the- pushing in from the north sea. so towards the east so that's why towards the east we-sometimes- so that's why towards the east we-sometimes see- so that's why towards the east we sometimes see more we could sometimes see more do...— we could sometimes see more cloud-friday- we could sometimes see more cloud friday evening and cloud back to friday evening and overnight.— cloud back to friday evening and overnight-_you— overnight. then you can see a generally— overnight. then you can see ai generally—the generally dry picture across the board.— generally dry picture across the beam—skies,- board. lots of clear skies, a bit—across-

board. lots of clear skies, a bit—across some bit more cloud across some central— bit more cloud across some central-eastern- bit more cloud across some central eastern parts with 1 central and eastern parts with 1 or—fog— central and eastern parts with 1 or—fog patches- central and eastern parts with 1 or_fog patches as. or 2 mist and fog patches as wen.— or 2 mist and fog patches as wen. but— or 2 mist and fog patches as well. but under— or 2 mist and fog patches as well. but under those clear skies,— well. but under those clear skim—wm. well. but under those clear. skies, _will turn skies, once again, it will turn fairly— skies, once again, it will turn fairly temperatures fairly chilly. temperatures widely— widely falling into single figures— widely falling into single figures-some- widely falling into single figures some rural spots figures and in some rural spots we ceme— figures and in some rural spots we could eee— figures and in some rural spots we could see temperatures figures and in some rural spots we cou fairly temperatures figures and in some rural spots we cou fairly closeeeratures figures and in some rural spots we cou fairly close tortures falling fairly close to freezing, — falling fairly close to freezing, particularly across more northern— freezing, particularly across more northern england. more northern parts of england. so more northern parts of england. see—ery- more northern parts of england. see—dry etere- more northern parts of england. see—dry etere onl so we can have a dry start on seeureey— so we can have a dry start on seeureey-a- so we can have a dry start on saturday-a fine- so we can have a dry start on saturday a fine start saturday morning. a fine start to me— saturday morning. a fine start to the weekend,— saturday morning. a fine start to the weekend, some cloud, but thee— to the weekend, some cloud, but thee-eff.— to the weekend, some cloud, but thee-eff. |_ to the weekend, some cloud, but that-off. | think- that will burn off. i think etm— that will burn off. i think still some— that will burn off. i think still some cloud across the southeast— still some cloud across the southeast throughout day, still some cloud across the soutelsewhere,|ghout day, still some cloud across the soutelsewhere, lotth day, still some cloud across the soutelsewhere, lotth sunshine still some cloud across the so come.vhere, lotth sunshine still some cloud across the so come. aere, lotth sunshine still some cloud across the so come. a reallytth sunshine still some cloud across the so come. a reallytth afternoon to come. a really fine afternoon to come. a really fine afternoon ee—exeepeienei to come. just a few exceptions, though.— to come. just a few exceptions, though—ef- though. the far north of seemed,— though. the far north of. scotland,_bit though. the far north of- scotland,_bit more scotland, there'll be a bit more eoue—we- scotland, there'll be a bit more cloud _we could. scotland, there'll be a bit more. cloud _we could just cloud and at times we could just see cloud and at times we could just eee-bie— cloud and at times we could just eee-bee mee— cloud and at times we could just see-bit more cloud- cloud and at times we could just see bit more cloud down see a little bit more cloud down thee— see a little bit more cloud down thee-cease.— see a little bit more cloud down that-coast. but- see a little bit more cloud down that-coast. but for. that north sea coast. but for meee— that north sea coast. but for meee-flee,- that north sea coast. but for meee-fine, ery- that north sea coast. but for most fine, dry and that north sea coast. but for most as fine, dry and that north sea coast. but for most as well. fine, dry and that north sea coast. but for most as well. if ne, dry and that north sea coast. but for most as well. if anything nd that north sea coast. but for most as well. if anything warmer warm as well. if anything warmer then— warm as well. if anything warmer then-friday. — warm as well. if anything warmer than-friday. highs- than it was on friday. highs there— than it was on friday. highs there-ee— than it was on friday. highs there-to ze— than it was on friday. highs there to 23 degrees. still there of 21 to 23 degrees. still a there of 21 to 23 degrees. still e be— there of 21 to 23 degrees. still a be mee— there of 21 to 23 degrees. still a be ef— there of 21 to 23 degrees. still a bit more of a— there of 21 to 23 degrees. still a bit more of a breeze towards the— a bit more of a breeze towards the south— a bit more of a breeze towards the south now— a bit more of a breeze towards the south now as— a bit more of a breeze towards the south now as we head through the south now as we head through ttte teet— the south now as we head through the rest-saturday— the south now as we head through the rest saturday into the the rest of saturday into the evening — the rest of saturday into the etettng tnt— the rest of saturday into the evening and overnight. again, it ttete— evening and overnight. again, it state—teett- stays dry across the board. lots of stays dry across the board. lots et—t— stays dry across the board. lots et—tlz— stays dry across the board. lots of_1l2 missed. of clear skies. 1 or 2 missed the— of clear skies. 1 or 2 missed the tee— of clear skies. 1 or 2 missed the fog patches— of clear skies. 1 or 2 missed the fog patches once again. but then—ttm- the fog patches once again. buti then_night,.start then through the night, we start to then through the night, we start te-mete— then through the night, we start time tow— then through the night, we start to more low spreading to see more low cloud spreading in to see more low cloud spreading ttt—set- to see more low cloud spreading ttt—set te- to see more low cloud spreading in _sea to affect. in from the north sea to affect meny— in from the north sea to affect many eettttt— in from the north sea to affect many central and— in from the north sea to affect many central and eastern parts of many central and eastern parts et england— many central and eastern parts of england and— many central and eastern parts of england and into eastern seetttnt— scotland as well. here, temperatures- scotland as well. here, temperatures so temperatures won't be quite so tow— temperatures won't be quite so tow-ttnee— temperatures won't be quite so low further towards the low, but further towards the west, — low, but further towards the west, _t- low, but further towards the

west, _a chilly. low, but further towards the- west,_a chilly night west, once again, a chilly night to come— west, once again, a chilly night to come. temperatures widely tttttne—l to come. temperatures widely| tttttne—. ae falling into single figures. as for falling into single figures. as tet 5m,— falling into single figures. as for sunday, then— falling into single figures. as for sunday, then we get off a for sunday, then we get off to a etetttet— for sunday, then we get off to a cloudier start— for sunday, then we get off to a cloudier start-more- cloudier start across more eentttt— cloudier start across more central-eastern- cloudier start across more central-eastern first cloudier start across more centreonieastern first cloudier start across more centreon sunday. rn first cloudier start across more centreon sunday. sunshinezirst cloudier start across more centreon sunday. sunshine from thing on sunday. sunshine from the-ttnee— thing on sunday. sunshine from the _further-thej the word go further towards the west. — the word go further towards the west. _tttt- the word go further towards the west. _that cloud. the word go further towards thei west._that cloud in west. but much of that cloud in the-tttn— west. but much of that cloud in the-tum up- west. but much of that cloud in the-burn up-breakj the east will burn up and break twat—through- the east will burn up and break away—through the. the east will burn up and break. away—through the day, away as we head through the day, tetttne— away as we head through the day, tetttne-ttne— away as we head through the day, leaving-fine-dayl leaving another fine and dry day for leaving another fine and dry day tet-ttteee— leaving another fine and dry day tet-ttteee .— leaving another fine and dry day for-places . still- leaving another fine and dry day for-places . still a- leaving another fine and dry day for places . still a bit for most places. still a bit more-though,- for most places. still a bit more though, down that more cloud, though, down that totte— more cloud, though, down that netttt set— more cloud, though, down that north sea coast.— more cloud, though, down that north sea coast. and that will keep— north sea coast. and that will keep-ttete— north sea coast. and that will keep-ttete-tei north sea coast. and that will. keep-here,-as we keep it cooler here, dumas as we teet— keep it cooler here, dumas as we teat-eate— keep it cooler here, dumas as we teat-etttt pett- keep it cooler here, dumas as we head _early part of- keep it cooler here, dumas as we head early part of next head into the early part of next week.— head into the early part of next week. staying— head into the early part of next week. staying fine and lots week. staying fine and dry. lots. more _come-again, more sunshine to come and again, teettne— feeling pleasantly warm if yet-te— feeling pleasantly warm if you'relthat_ feeling pleasantly warm if you're that sunshine .

student loans. give me a break. if you choose to go to university, you know the deal. you can fund yourself. am i being harsh or not.7 speak king of harsh. boris johnson. have you seen his explosive letter .7 you seen his explosive letter? he's basically handed everything oven he's basically handed everything over. the fight is on, says some. is he trying to cause a fight between him and the government or not? is there a different motive? you tell me what you reckon is going on and the westminster council is

basically