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the grip of trans ideology. at the grip of trans ideology. iii 9:00,— the grip of trans ideology. iii 9:00. ia— the grip of trans ideology. at 9:00, in my— the grip of trans ideology. at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll is isaiias— at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with— at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with woke nationwide tide be dealing with woke nationwide iiis aai— be dealing with woke nationwide iiis aai ii— be dealing with woke nationwide tide and it might— be dealing with woke nationwide tide and it might take at ten amia— tide and it might take at ten some truth bombs about phillip ssasiisii— some truth bombs about phillip schofield and— some truth bombs about phillip schofield and holly willoughby. he schofield and holly willoughby. as siaiaas— schofield and holly willoughby. he claims homophobe phobia. is iaai— he claims homophobe phobia. is iaai assi— he claims homophobe phobia. is iaai iaass my— he claims homophobe phobia. is that true? my response at ten iias— that true? my response at ten iias wiii— that true? my response at ten iias wiii is— that true? my response at ten plus will be hearing from the iaiiiiaai— plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv— plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv star. _ plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv star. and this asaaias— brilliant tv star. and this morning regular kim woodburn. isis— morning regular kim woodburn. isis is— morning regular kim woodburn. isis is asi— morning regular kim woodburn. lots to get through . a big three lots to get through. a big three assas— lots to get through. a big three asaas is— lots to get through. a big three hours to come.— lots to get through. a big three hours to come. it's— lots to get through. a big three hours to come. it's friday agai— hours to come. it's friday aigai, ss— hours to come. it's friday night, so the— hours to come. it's friday night, so the weekend starts ass.— night, so the weekend starts asas. iii— night, so the weekend starts here. put something cold and fizzy— here. put something cold and fizzy ia— here. put something cold and iizzy ia aas— here. put something cold and fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you aiisa— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you aiisa aas— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you after the headlines with the aways— you after the headlines with the aiways iizzy— you after the headlines with the always fizzy bethan plc . always fizzy bethan plc. mark, iiani— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, iiani you.— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, thank you. here's— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the newsroom. boris johnson says he's sent unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry, bypassing the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on

an old phone that's locked due to security concerns. it has discussions on it from before may 2021. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mr johnson's yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's messages over all mr johnson's messages and diaries . a 19 year old has and diaries. a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and military. planning terror attacks on the police and military . matthew police and military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and became radicalised dunng islam and became radicalised during the covid lockdown . the during the covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother , who judge praised his mother, who reported him to the prevent counter terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the right thing . at least 50 people right thing. at least 50 people have been killed and 350 hospitalised after two passenger trains collided with a goods trains collided with a goods train in india. trains collided with a goods train in india . officials say train in india. officials say the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chennai,

crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were carried to ambulance as rescue operations are underway . 20 operations are underway. 20 people have now been arrested in relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who was 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were pursued by police . cctv shows pursued by police. cctv shows the boys on an electric bike being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in the riots . phillip schofield says riots. phillip schofield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague at this morning. the 61 year old resigned from itv last week after admitting to the affair and says he'll comply with an external review commissioned by the broadcaster . schofield has

the broadcaster. schofield has hit out at what he describes as relentless criticism . um and relentless criticism. um and told the bbc he feels ashamed and sorry, but insists he didn't groom him. i was a completely iaasssai— groom him. i was a completely innocent backwards— g " i was a completely innocent backwards and forwards a paid— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of time about a job,— over a period of time about a job, aisai— over a period of time about a job, about careers— over a period of time about a job, about careers . you know, i job, about careers. you know, i you is— job, about careers. you know, i mean, you do that— job, about careers. you know, i mean, you do that . what's what's mean, you do that. what's what's wrong— mean, you do that. what's what's wasas wiia— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that?— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that? what was unwise was wrong with that? what was unwise ias — wrong with that? what was unwise ias iasi— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it happened aai— was the fact that it happened aai iaai— was the fact that it happened and that was— was the fact that it happened and that was a— was the fact that it happened and that was a very, very grave now, i— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was consensual, iii— error. now, it was consensual, iii ii— error. now, it was consensual, iii i was— error. now, it was consensual, iii ii my— error. now, it was consensual, but it was my fault . more but it was my fault. more iisaaiiisa— but it was my fault. more disruption for— but it was my fault. more disruption for holidaymakers as sssaaiiy— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at heathrow aiaisai— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike asiisa— airport announce further strike asiisa iais— airport announce further strike action this summer. " action this summer. unite the union— action this summer. unite the union says its members will stage 33 days of industry action in a dispute over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from mid—june to the end of august. every weekend from mid—june to the end of august . you're up to the end of august. you're up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. this is gb news. now it's

back to . back to. mark great to have bethany elsey back. she returns at nine. iisisons— back. she returns at nine. iisioons io— back. she returns at nine. welcome to mark- f she returns at nine. welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy— welcome to mark dolan tonight. nappy iaiiay— welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy friday- one— welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy friday. one and all. is ions— happy friday. one and all. is boris johnson— happy friday. one and all. is boris johnson trying to destroy ioisni— boris johnson trying to destroy rishi sunak's_ boris johnson trying to destroy rishi sunak's government? i'll be rishi sunak's government? i'll is asking— rishi sunak's government? i'll be asking maverick tory mp and ions— be asking maverick tory mp and ions saiionsa— be asking maverick tory mp and boris supporter michael iaiaisani— boris supporter michael fabricant as— boris supporter michael fabricant as a gp asks new iaasnis— fabricant as a gp asks new iaasnis ii— fabricant as a gp asks new parents if their— fabricant as a gp asks new parents if their baby is trans ani— parents if their baby is trans ani as— parents if their baby is trans ani as ins— parents if their baby is trans and as the health service now isnoans— and as the health service now performs gender— and as the health service now performs gender swap surgery svsay— performs gender swap surgery sysny say— performs gender swap surgery sysny iay ,— performs gender swap surgery sysny iay , nays— performs gender swap surgery every day , have they cured every day, have they cured is— every day, have they cured cancer? is the _ every day, have they cured cancer? is the publicly funded aas— cancer? is the publicly funded was now— cancer? is the publicly funded aas in— cancer? is the publicly funded nhs now in the— cancer? is the publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans iisoiogys— nhs now in the grip of trans ideology? meanwhile, i'll be sisaiing— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be sisaning io— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be sisaning io a— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be speaking to a 34 year old man ano— speaking to a 34 year old man nno nas— speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable— speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable bowel cancer, all who has incurable bowel cancer, aii isaass— who has incurable bowel cancer, all because the— who has incurable bowel cancer, all because the nhs turned into all because the nhs turned into a covii— all because the nhs turned into a covii oniy— all because the nhs turned into a covid only service during the ianisnis— a covid only service during the ianisnio .— a covid only service during the ianisnio . as— a covid only service during the pandemic . he tells his pandemic. he tells his incredible— pandemic. he tells his incredible story in just a few ninaiss— incredible story in just a few ninaiss. ii— incredible story in just a few minutes. it might take a turn

ioiionins— minutes. it might take a turn following his— minutes. it might take a turn following his bombshell inisnisn— following his bombshell interview with the sun nswsiaisn— interview with the sun newspaper. i'm not buying philip sonoiisii-s— newspaper. i'm not buying philip schofield's crocodile tears as ionigni-s— schofield's crocodile tears as tonight's newsmaker is the isaaisss— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn, vino-ii— fearless tv star kim woodburn, nno-ii is— fearless tv star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping more truth ionis— who'll be dropping more truth ionis aioai— who'll be dropping more truth bombs about the _ who'll be dropping more truth bombs about the schofield saga . bombs about the schofield saga. main— bombs about the schofield saga. iiaan ioian— bombs about the schofield saga. mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home oi ins— mark dolan tonight is the home oi ins paisas— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's ironi— of the papers with tomorrow's iaoni iagss— of the papers with tomorrow's iaoni iagss ai— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 snaai. — front pages at exactly 1030 snap. sins— front pages at exactly 1030 sharp. plus your emails, ssissiaiiy— sharp. plus your emails, especially the- sharp. plus your emails, especially the spicy ones . especially the spicy ones. mansi— especially the spicy ones. iiaansi si— especially the spicy ones. market gb news .com . lots to get market gb news .com. lots to get insign— market gb news .com. lots to get inroagn. iis-ii— market gb news .com. lots to get through. we'll start— market gb news .com. lots to get through. we'll start with this . through. we'll start with this. insas-s— through. we'll start with this. there's trouble— through. we'll start with this. there's trouble in the corridors of there's trouble in the corridors oi iowsn — there's trouble in the corridors oi iowsn ii— there's trouble in the corridors of power. a deadline has passed for of power. a deadline has passed ioa ins— of power. a deadline has passed for the government to hand over wnaisaii— for the government to hand over whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry.— whatsapp messages to the covid inaaiay. ii— whatsapp messages to the covid inaainy. ii nas— whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. it was given until 4 in.— inquiry. it was given until 4 in. yssisaiay— inquiry. it was given until 4 pm. yesterday to disclose those p.m. yesterday to disclose those messages between— p.m. yesterday to disclose those messages between boris johnson and messages between boris johnson ani ais— messages between boris johnson and his advisers— messages between boris johnson and his advisers during the ianisnis— and his advisers during the ianisnio .— and his advisers during the pandemic , as— and his advisers during the pandemic , as well as his diaries pandemic, as well as his diaries ani— pandemic, as well as his diaries and notebooks.— pandemic, as well as his diaries and notebooks. but the government _ and notebooks. but the government have refused to share oi— government have refused to share oi ins— government have refused to share some of the material, arguing it's some of the material, arguing ii-s noi— some of the material, arguing it's not relevant— some of the material, arguing it's not relevant to the inquiry-s— it's not relevant to the inquiry's work. this could end inquiry's work. this could end in a— inquiry's work. this could end in a isgai—

inquiry's work. this could end in a legal battle.— inquiry's work. this could end in a legal battle. well, in a sense , national— in a legal battle. well, in a sense , national development. sense, national development. ions— sense, national development. boris johnson— sense, national development. boris johnson has gone over the asais— boris johnson has gone over the asais oi— boris johnson has gone over the heads of downing— boris johnson has gone over the heads of downing street and ioisni— heads of downing street and isisni sunak— heads of downing street and rishi sunak to— heads of downing street and rishi sunak to send the covid inquiry— rishi sunak to send the covid inoainy aii— rishi sunak to send the covid inoainy aii oi— rishi sunak to send the covid inquiry all of the— rishi sunak to send the covid inquiry all of the messages that insy— inquiry all of the messages that insy nays— inquiry all of the messages that they have requested. let's get they have requested. let's get is visas— they have requested. let's get the views now— they have requested. let's get the views now of— they have requested. let's get the views now of the conservative - the views now of the conservative mp for lichfield, iiisnasi— conservative mp for lichfield, michael fabricant . michael, is michael fabricant. michael, is inis— michael fabricant. michael, is an an— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack on— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack on rishi sunak. non— this an attack on rishi sunak. now we've lost— this an attack on rishi sunak. now we've lost the audio to iiisnasi— now we've lost the audio to michael fabricant, which many noaii— michael fabricant, which many noaii argue— michael fabricant, which many would argue is— michael fabricant, which many would argue is a— michael fabricant, which many would argue is a mixed blessing and would argue is a mixed blessing ani niii— would argue is a mixed blessing and will definitely— would argue is a mixed blessing and will definitely get his visas— and will definitely get his views shortly.— and will definitely get his views shortly. but it is astonishing- views shortly. but it is astonishing because essentially the government— astonishing because essentially the government do not want all of the government do not want all oi inoss— the government do not want all of those whatsapp messages to go to of those whatsapp messages to go io-covii— of those whatsapp messages to go io-covii inquiry— of those whatsapp messages to go io-covii inaaiay .— of those whatsapp messages to go to covid inquiry. they were to the covid inquiry. they were niiiing— to the covid inquiry. they were niiiins io— to the covid inquiry. they were niiiing io go— to the covid inquiry. they were niiiing io go io— to the covid inquiry. they were willing to go to court over it in onisa— willing to go to court over it in onisa io— willing to go to court over it in order to actually win that iaiiis. — in order to actually win that battle. well— in order to actually win that battle. well boris has done a rainsa— battle. well boris has done a rather sneaky— battle. well boris has done a rather sneaky thing and sent the naisaiai— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway .— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway . say some of the material anyway. say some of the naisaiai— material anyway. say some of the naisaiai nai— material anyway. say some of the material had to— material anyway. say some of the material had to be— material anyway. say some of the material had to be dredged out of material had to be dredged out oi a— material had to be dredged out oi a say- material had to be dredged out oi a vsay oii— material had to be dredged out of a very old phone , probably of a very old phone, probably a nona— of a very old phone, probably a nona insa— of a very old phone, probably a nokia brick that— of a very old phone, probably a nokia brick that boris was using isioas— nokia brick that boris was using isioas 2021.— nokia brick that boris was using before 2021. but— nokia brick that boris was using before 2021. but what do you inani— before 2021. but what do you

think? should— before 2021. but what do you think? should rishi sunak be snaaing— think? should rishi sunak be snanng aii— think? should rishi sunak be sharing all of— think? should rishi sunak be sharing all of that material? i nonin— sharing all of that material? i noaii argue— sharing all of that material? i would argue that— sharing all of that material? i would argue that nothing should be would argue that nothing should is uniss— would argue that nothing should is anisa asais— would argue that nothing should be under wraps after all those ianisnis— be under wraps after all those pandemic measures has affected all pandemic measures has affected aii oi— pandemic measures has affected aii oi — pandemic measures has affected all of us. affected— pandemic measures has affected all of us. affected the economy, aiissisi— all of us. affected the economy, affected school— all of us. affected the economy, affected school closures . i want affected school closures. i want inai— affected school closures. i want an paisa— affected school closures. i want that paper trail.— affected school closures. i want that paper trail. so— affected school closures. i want that paper trail. so we've got all that paper trail. so we've got aii oi— that paper trail. so we've got aii oi inai— that paper trail. so we've got all of that to— that paper trail. so we've got all of that to debate and we'll isiais— all of that to debate and we'll isiais inai— all of that to debate and we'll debate that with— all of that to debate and we'll debate that with michael iaiaisani— debate that with michael fabricant .— debate that with michael fabricant . oh, he's back. he's fabricant. oh, he's back. he's iaon— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's iasn in— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's iasn in ins— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room .— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room . i was about to back in the room. i was about to isii— back in the room. i was about to isii yon— back in the room. i was about to isii yon nnai-s— back in the room. i was about to tell you what's on— back in the room. i was about to tell you what's on my mind, but in — tell you what's on my mind, but in isiisnisi— tell you what's on my mind, but i'm delighted to— tell you what's on my mind, but i'm delighted to say that tory mp-fabricant,- i'm delighted to say that tory mp fabricant, you'll mp michael fabricant, you'll nsysa—again- mp michael fabricant, you'll never—again on. mp michael fabricant, you'll. never—again on this never be silenced again on this nogaanns— never be silenced again on this iaogaanns .— never be silenced again on this iaogaanns ime— never be silenced again on this programme , me you. programme, let me tell you. aisoiaisiy— programme, let me tell you. aisoiaisiy — programme, let me tell you. absolutely fg programme, let me tell you. absolutely fcd sill programme, let me tell you. absolutely fcd ll absolutely technology will never overpower me or boris. now will, michael fabricant is this a scorched earth policy on the part of boris johnson? what's he up to ? i think he's just trying up to? i think he's just trying to be absolutely open. he gave his first phone, the most recent phone, and then he said he would give his old phone. and i know that he had to change his phone because i knew he had a new phone number and all the rest of it. and they've given him they've given him the phone there as well. so he's handed

everything in. but of course, what's going to be interesting is what is actually on the phone now, baroness hallett has said that she's not going to publicise anything, which has nothing to do with covid, but i dare say there's a lot of interesting stuff. i know there's a lot of interesting stuff on my whatsapps with various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested— various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested in— various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested in the- : yeah, well, i'm more interested in the pictures on your— more interested in the pictures on your whatsapp rather than the messages. michael— on your whatsapp rather than the messages. michael but listen , messages. michael but listen, isi-s— messages. michael but listen, isi-s iain— messages. michael but listen, let's talk about— messages. michael but listen, let's talk about rishi sunak wnai-s— let's talk about rishi sunak was as— let's talk about rishi sunak was as soi— let's talk about rishi sunak what's he got to hide ? well what's he got to hide? well i mean, we're just— what's he got to hide? well i mean, we're just speculating, asn-i— mean, we're just speculating, i as? — mean, we're just speculating, asn-i nss isa— mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all- mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all i- mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all i know, there may have been arguments. i'm just completely guessing and speculating, but maybe there were arguments between rishi when he was chancellor and boris one when he was prime minister. that's what 1 or 2 journalists have speculated . and maybe there have speculated. and maybe there was even , i don't know, was even, i don't know, arguments about who should be the future leader . we can only the future leader. we can only guess. the future leader. we can only guess . but the future leader. we can only guess. but it's very, very interesting stuff. it's not a good look , though,- xiiiznsl g it's not a

good look , though, is it, ”i:2;~;:l g it's not a good look , though, is it, for good look, though, is it, for ins— good look, though, is it, for the government— good look, though, is it, for the government to push back in anis— the government to push back in an nay— the government to push back in an nay ani— the government to push back in this way and risk— the government to push back in this way and risk a— the government to push back in this way and risk a legal battle ? this way and risk a legal battle s iiai-s— this way and risk a legal battle s was signi— this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and- this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and in- this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and in fact, a government minister has said that he doesn't even think that the legal battle is winnable. so i do sometimes think, you know, if you don't think you can win a battle, don't go into it in the first place. but it's not a good look. but i do understand what the government's talking about . the government's talking about. you see a lot of decisions are made after informal discussions between civil servants and other civil servants , civil servants civil servants, civil servants and ministers and between ministers and ministers. now, if all of that is going to be in the open, then i think a lot of the open, then i think a lot of the decisions that are made by government will be hampered. so it's quite an interesting little area of legal points here. whether or not we should make stuff which is irrelevant , you stuff which is irrelevant, you know, available to the hallett inquiry, which after all is only to be on covid. well, yeah, sisanins— to be on covid. well, yeah, sisaning oi— to be on covid. well, yeah, speaking of covid,- i2i" co “j well, yeah, speaking of covid, you've always issn—

speaking of covid, you've always issn ins— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter of— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter of common sense of been the arbiter of common sense oi iaain— been the arbiter of common sense oi iaain .— been the arbiter of common sense oi iaain , oi— been the arbiter of common sense of truth , of probity. _ been the arbiter of common sense of truth , of probity. flatter me of truth, of probity. flatter me , iiionasi— of truth, of probity. flatter me , michael fabricant. let me tell you— , michael fabricant. let me tell you ,— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , iaiaisani— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , fabricant, for— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , fabricant, for pm, we can you, fabricant, for pm, we can aas— you, fabricant, for pm, we can iaas ini— you, fabricant, for pm, we can dare but dream.— you, fabricant, for pm, we can dare but dream. but i'm worried aioai— dare but dream. but i'm worried aioai anis— dare but dream. but i'm worried about this cowo— dare but dream. but i'm worried about this covid inquiry. i'm nonisi— about this covid inquiry. i'm nonisi ii-s— about this covid inquiry. i'm worried it's going to be a siiisn— worried it's going to be a siiisn ai— worried it's going to be a siiisn no in— worried it's going to be a stitch up in which a generation of stitch up in which a generation oi ioiiiisians— stitch up in which a generation of politicians and— stitch up in which a generation of politicians and public health oiiisiais— of politicians and public health officials will— of politicians and public health officials will just— of politicians and public health officials will just try to demonstrate - officials will just try to demonstrate they did the right inns— demonstrate they did the right inins wasn— demonstrate they did the right thing when many would argue, insiaiins— thing when many would argue, insiaiins ins— thing when many would argue, including the highly respected iaoisssoa— including the highly respected professor carroll— including the highly respected professor carroll sikora, the cancer oncologist first, that iookionns— cancer oncologist first, that lockdowns were _ cancer oncologist first, that lockdowns were the biggest nisians — lockdowns were the biggest mistake ever.— lockdowns were the biggest mistake ever. will the truth out aioai— mistake ever. will the truth out aioai covii— mistake ever. will the truth out about covm and— mistake ever. will the truth out about covid and whether the measures worked ? or» c measures worked? i don't think so.the measures worked? i don't think so. the point is that if you look at the death rates , look at the death rates, actually, we did quite well in the uk. we did better than germany . we were about the same germany. we were about the same as france . but you know, sweden as france. but you know, sweden adopted a different policy. sweden just said, you know what, you use your common sense and you use your common sense and are you use your common sense and are all right there. so not densely populated as a country, as the united kingdom. you know, we've got 70 million people on a

small island and that's pretty dense population. but having said all that, will it actually teach us any lessons for years to come? should there be another pandemic? i'm not sure. i'm not sure we're going to learn anything out of it. and as you quite rightly say , i think it'll quite rightly say, i think it'll all be about the civil servants trying to show that they were right and ministers were wrong . right and ministers were wrong. but that won't help us in the future either. michael, before we future either. michael, before as si— future either. michael, before as isi yon— future either. michael, before as isi yon asi— future either. michael, before we let you get to— future either. michael, before we let you get to that- "a: i: michael, before we let you get to that friday nigni— we let you get to that friday nigni aiass— we let you get to that friday nigni aiass oi— we let you get to that friday night glass of chablis extra siiiisi— night glass of chablis extra aiaa, a— night glass of chablis extra chilled, a quick— night glass of chablis extra chilled, a quick response from you— chilled, a quick response from you on— chilled, a quick response from you on ins— chilled, a quick response from you on the phillip schofield ianna — you on the phillip schofield ianna is— you on the phillip schofield drama. is he— you on the phillip schofield drama. is he the victim of a nonoinoiio— drama. is he the victim of a homophobic witch hunt ? drama. is he the victim of a homophobic witch hunt? 22» c homophobic witch hunt? i don't iiini— homophobic witch hunt? i don't iiini so— homophobic witch hunt? i don't iiini so .— homophobic witch hunt? i don't iiini so . i— homophobic witch hunt? i don't think so . i actually— homophobic witch hunt? i don't think so . i actually think the think so. i actually think the trouble is that , you know, he trouble is that, you know, he was unwise in what he did. i'm told that he wasn't that popular on set. he was actually quite a difficult person to work with, a prima donna . and we never have prima donna. and we never have prima donna. and we never have prima donnas on gb news, do we?

at and also and also , um, i at and also and also, um, i don't know about you, but when i've seen him speak and give his views about what happened, it all looks like acting to me. but maybe i'm being very unfair. well, yes, he said in an interview that akua actually, if it was a straight presenter , it was a straight presenter, this wouldn't be a story. i don't think that's true. - don't think that's true. no i ion-i— don't think that's true. no i ion-i ininn— don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true either. i don't think that's true either. i inni— don't think that's true either. i iiini ai— don't think that's true either. i think at the— don't think that's true either. i think at the end— don't think that's true either. i think at the end of- don't think that's true either. i think at the end of the- don't think that's true either. i think at the end of the day, you've got to be professional and you've got to be dealing with people in a way that actually reflects not only your professionalism, but the professionalism, but the professionalism of the station that you're on. and that's something that i think itv has got a lot of questions to answer . i mean, for example, the young runner who was on the this morning programme, we know that itv has said they're going to look after him. and i happen to know that the culture, media and sport committee will be asking the question, well , in what way

the question, well, in what way are you going to look after him? are you going to give him money to keep silent ? what interesting to keep silent? what interesting questions . and it's not just questions. and it's not just philip schofield in the dock, sadly , it's itv too. michael, sadly, it's itv too. michael, have a brilliant— 2 a michael, have a brilliant weekend 2 c a michael, have a brilliant weekend . thank have a brilliant weekend. thank you ioa— have a brilliant weekend. thank you ioaioinins— have a brilliant weekend. thank you forjoining us— have a brilliant weekend. thank you forjoining us on mark dolan ionisin— you forjoining us on mark dolan ionigni. ins— you forjoining us on mark dolan ionigni. ins ioay— you forjoining us on mark dolan tonight. the tory mp for iioniisii— tonight. the tory mp for lichfield ,_ tonight. the tory mp for lichfield , michael fabricant . lichfield, michael fabricant. iois— lichfield, michael fabricant. iois os— lichfield, michael fabricant. lots more to— lichfield, michael fabricant. lots more to come. i'll be isaiing— lots more to come. i'll be dealing with— lots more to come. i'll be dealing with phillip schofield in my— dealing with phillip schofield in my ians— dealing with phillip schofield in my as ai— dealing with phillip schofield in my take at ten. hopefully my iasi— in my take at ten. hopefully my iasi iaiiio— in my take at ten. hopefully my last public comments about this aiiisaioas— last public comments about this ridiculous story— last public comments about this ridiculous story .— last public comments about this ridiculous story. i— last public comments about this ridiculous story. i don't buy ais— ridiculous story. i don't buy his crocodile— ridiculous story. i don't buy his crocodile tears. more on inai— his crocodile tears. more on an aiisa— his crocodile tears. more on that after ten. _ his crocodile tears. more on that after ten. you won't want to that after ten. you won't want io iss— that after ten. you won't want io ii.— that after ten. you won't want to miss it. lots— that after ten. you won't want to miss it. lots more to come. as a— to miss it. lots more to come. as a as— to miss it. lots more to come. as a as asks— to miss it. lots more to come. as a gp asks new— to miss it. lots more to come. as a gp asks new parents if insi— as a gp asks new parents if insia iaiy— as a gp asks new parents if insia iaiy is— as a gp asks new parents if their baby is trans. is the iaiiisiy— their baby is trans. is the publicly funded nhs now in the grip publicly funded nhs now in the gap oi— publicly funded nhs now in the gap oi inns— publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans ideology plus , grip of trans ideology plus, i'll grip of trans ideology plus, in is— grip of trans ideology plus, i'll be joined— grip of trans ideology plus, i'll be joined by a very brave guy— i'll be joined by a very brave guy nno-s— i'll be joined by a very brave guy who's battling inoperable ionsi— guy who's battling inoperable bowel cancer,— guy who's battling inoperable bowel cancer, all because of inoss— bowel cancer, all because of inoss covii— bowel cancer, all because of those covid lockdowns, plus your saus— those covid lockdowns, plus your saiis in— those covid lockdowns, plus your saiis in iais— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan .— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan . it's all to calls in dale dolan. it's all to

radio. at 9:00. i'll be dealing with woke nationwide. but how about this one, folks? a gp has greeted newborn parents with an extraordinary question about their baby. is it trans? is? meanwhile, it emerges that the so—called and allegedly cash strapped nhs is now performing gender swap surgery every single day. so is the nhs now in the grip of trans ideology? let's speak to the political commentator and somebody that previously identified as female ollie london, whose book gender madness is creating a lot of excitement. it's available for pre—order gender madness. and let me tell you, ollie london has won a london won an award, folks. yes, indeed . the riba folks. yes, indeed. the riba award for most influential personalities in the world of social media and actually your

award relates very much to this story . what's going on with the story. what's going on with the gp asking parents of a newborn is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy .— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy . insss— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy . these are— c , i mean, it's just crazy . these are babies and this crazy. these are babies and this is insi— crazy. these are babies and this is iasi ons— crazy. these are babies and this is iasi nay— crazy. these are babies and this is just one way that gender iisoioay— is just one way that gender iisoiogy is— is just one way that gender ideology is seeping into sooisiy— ideology is seeping into sosisiy. so— ideology is seeping into society. so first you have this si— society. so first you have this oi ani— society. so first you have this one gp and then— society. so first you have this one gp and then next it'll be sis— one gp and then next it'll be more gps following suit and siaii— more gps following suit and siaii ani— more gps following suit and stuff and it's— more gps following suit and stuff and it's just going to get worse. we're seeing school girls asking— worse. we're seeing school girls asking sons— worse. we're seeing school girls asking some children to state insi— asking some children to state their pronouns,— asking some children to state their pronouns, to state whether insy-as—iaans. i their pronouns, to state whetheri they're—trans. and they're non—binary or trans. and kook— they're non—binary or trans. and iook-aas— they're non—binary or trans. and look,-are questions- they're non—binary or trans. and look, are questions that look, these are questions that asn-i— look, these are questions that aasn-i—kiis- look, these are questions that aasn-i—kiis .- look, these are questions thati aren't—kids . when aren't suitable for kids. when yos— aren't suitable for kids. when yon-aslaiaii,— aren't suitable for kids. when you're-adult, you- aren't suitable for kids. when you're adult, you can make you're an adult, you can make a isoision— you're an adult, you can make a decision about— you're an adult, you can make a decision about how— you're an adult, you can make a decision about how your iisniiiy— decision about how your identity, but— decision about how your identity, but kids can't comprehend- identity, but kids can't comprehend or they can't understand— comprehend or they can't understand just comprehend or they can't- understand -just think comprehend or they can't- undtotallyi-just think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous just think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous thatt think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous that a:hink it's totally ludicrous that a iosioa-s— it's totally ludicrous that a doctor's-askingl it's totally ludicrous that a - doctor's-asking about doctor's surgery is asking about iaiiss— doctor's surgery is asking about babies, whether— doctor's surgery is asking about babies, whether they're trans. ani— babies, whether they're trans. and you— babies, whether they're trans. and you speak— babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on— babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on this- babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on this story with considerable authority . give me considerable authority. give me a sort of potted history of your journey. right? so i had many different identity struggles throughout my life that stemmed from different reasons bullying, body gender body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria. and body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria . and i did actually dysphoria. and i did actually iisniiiy— dysphoria. and i did actually iisniiiy as— dysphoria. and i did actually identify as trans. _ dysphoria. and i did actually identify as trans. i— 2 and i did actually identify as trans. i had all of ins— identify as trans. i had all of is iasiai— identify as trans. i had all of the facial feminisation sgsnss— the facial feminisation surgeries, which was very painki— surgeries, which was very iainiai. io— surgeries, which was very painful. so i— surgeries, which was very

painful. so i did that. she isas— painful. so i did that. she isas a— painful. so i did that. she became a girl— painful. so i did that. she became a girl for a while. yes. ani— became a girl for a while. yes. ani i— became a girl for a while. yes. ani i was— became a girl for a while. yes. and i was living— became a girl for a while. yes. and i was living publicly as a ana,— and i was living publicly as a woman. and, you— and i was living publicly as a woman. and, you know, i got to a ioini— woman. and, you know, i got to a ioini wnsas— woman. and, you know, i got to a ioini wnsaslwas— woman. and, you know, i got to a point whereiwas-this- point where i was like, this isa-i— point where i was like, this isn-i—nsl point where i was like, this isn-i—ns. il point where i was like, this. isn't—me. i need isn't the authentic me. i need to isn't the authentic me. i need io-sisi— isn't the authentic me. i need io-sisi-ani- to actually step back and find the to actually step back and find ins-ms— to actually step back and find ins-ns-iini- to actually step back and find the me find myself. and the real me and find myself. and it a the real me and find myself. and ii-a ioi— the real me and find myself. and ii-a ioi oi— the real me and find myself. and it-a lot of time— the real me and find myself. and it-a lot of time to- the real me and find myself. and it a lot of time to find it took a lot of time to find inai— it took a lot of time to find an isson— it took a lot of time to find that person .was- it took a lot of time to find that person was trapped that person that was trapped wiinin. — that person that was trapped wiinin. -wsay- that person that was trapped within. very grateful within. but i'm very grateful ani— within. but i'm very grateful now. and obviously there are isoiis— now. and obviously there are. isoiis—gsnsaaiiy people out there that generally are people out there that generally aas-ani— people out there that generally aas-aai insy— people out there that generally are-and they felt- people out there that generally are and they felt like are trans and they felt like inai— are trans and they felt like inai-wnois- are trans and they felt like that-whole life.- are trans and they felt like that whole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i whole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt hole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt aile life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain kind you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain kind ofu know, i felt a certain kind of pressure because— know, i felt a certain kind of pressure because i use social nsiia— pressure because i use social nsiia aki— pressure because i use social media all-time,- pressure because i use social media all time, was spending media all the time, was spending like media all the time, was spending iiks iiks— media all the time, was spending like five hours— media all the time, was spending like five hourslday_ media all the time, was spending like five hours day on tiktok like five hours a day on tiktok ani— like five hours a day on tiktok aai-yon— like five hours a day on tiktok aai-yon isas— like five hours a day on tiktok and .you tend to— like five hours a day on tiktok and you tend to see is these and all you tend to see is these gsnisa— and all you tend to see is these gender-videos. - and all you tend to see is thesei gender-videos. .that gender ideology videos. and that wasan- again— gender ideology videos. and that was-an adult. but- gender ideology videos. and that was an adult. but my was me as an adult. but my concern-kids— was me as an adult. but my concern-kids ,_ was me as an adult. but my concern kids , when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionlineds , when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and they'reiey're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and they're being going online and they're being sxiossi— going online and they're being sxiossi-ins- going online and they're being exposed the schools, exposed to this in the schools, in is — exposed to this in the schools, in the classrooms,— exposed to this in the schools, in the classrooms, it's harmful isawss— in the classrooms, it's harmful isawss kios— in the classrooms, it's harmful because kids minds are very to sasy— because kids minds are very to sasy nowa— because kids minds are very to sasy nowii. io— because kids minds are very to easy mould. so i— because kids minds are very to easy mould. so i think, you know,— easy mould. so i think, you know, i— easy mould. so i think, you know, if somebody identifies as ians— know, if somebody identifies as trans,-decision- know, if somebody identifies as trans,-decision to- know, if somebody identifies as trans, decision to make trans, that's a decision to make as an asais— trans, that's a decision to make as an adult. but— trans, that's a decision to make as an adult. but kids cannot naks—ii- make that decision. is it grooming— make that decision. is it gaooning in— make that decision. is it grooming in some cases it is. i ii— grooming in some cases it is. i ii yos— grooming in some cases it is. i mean, if you're specifically iaagsiing— mean, if you're specifically targeting children with the iwaioss— targeting children with the iwioss oi— targeting children with the purpose of trying to confuse insa— purpose of trying to confuse gem, inai— purpose of trying to confuse them, that is— purpose of trying to confuse them, that is definitely gaooning. — them, that is definitely grooming. you know, grooming is iaiis— grooming. you know, grooming is gwiis-woni— grooming. you know, grooming is quite word because it quite a loaded word because it can-know— quite a loaded word because it can-know .— quite a loaded word because it can-know , ii— quite a loaded word because it can,-know , if it's- can, you know, if it's

associated- can, you know, if it's associated the lgbt associated with the lgbt sonnwniiy— associated with the lgbt community, it— associated with the lgbt community, it can upset people. but community, it can upset people. iii wasn— community, it can upset people. iii wnsn yos— community, it can upset people. but when you're actually iaagsiing— but when you're actually- targeting - specifically targeting children specifically , i targeting children specifically , i nsan— targeting children specifically , i mean, even— targeting children specifically , i mean, even with those cases in ins— , i mean, even with those cases in the-recently— , i mean, even with those cases in the recently target in the us recently target a supermarket— in the us recently target a supermarket ,_ in the us recently target a supermarket , it in the us recently target a supermarket, it had this gender iisoiogy— supermarket, it had this gender iisoiogy iaiis— supermarket, it had this gender ideology pride collection for iaiiss— ideology pride collection for iaiiss ani— ideology pride collection for babies and toddlers , and that is babies and toddlers, and that is wnai— babies and toddlers, and that is wnai yon— babies and toddlers, and that is what you would _ babies and toddlers, and that is what you would consider grooming or indoctrinating_ what you would consider grooming or indoctrinating children isawss— or indoctrinating children because it's— or indoctrinating children because it's planting the seed in-ninis— because it's planting the seed in-minds that's- because it's planting the seed in minds that's making in their minds that's making inis— in their minds that's making ins-ins— in their minds that's making this-the place- in their minds that's making this-the place .- in their minds that's making this the place . on this all over the place. on- cartoons.-non—binary cartoons. they have non—binary snaaaoisas— cartoons. they have non—binary snaaasisas in— cartoons. they have non—binary characters in some— cartoons. they have non—binary characters in some cartoons, you know,— characters in some cartoons, you knowliikiok— characters in some cartoons, you knowliikiok .— characters in some cartoons, you know, tiktok , they're seeing know, on tiktok, they're seeing ins.— know, on tiktok, they're seeing iiis-inis— know, on tiktok, they're seeing this. this concerted this. so it's this concerted insa— this. so it's this concerted issn-ani- this. so it's this concerted push and confuse these push to try and confuse these siiiiasn— push to try and confuse these children. and— push to try and confuse these children. and just children. and it's just not iaii— children. and it's just not iain-kiis- children. and it's just not fair.-kids-needj children. and it's just not. fair.-kids-need to children. and it's just not- fair.-kids-need to be fair. these kids just need to be isii— fair. these kids just need to be isi-ais— fair. these kids just need to be left-are these- fair. these kids just need to be left are these children left alone. are these children noi— left alone. are these children noi ising— left alone. are these children not being educated into the fact inai— not being educated into the fact an isoiis— not being educated into the fact an isoiis io— not being educated into the fact that people do identify by iiiisasni— that people do identify by different genders ? ' ”a: if.” it»; different genders? are critics of different genders? are critics oi ins— different genders? are critics oi ins us— different genders? are critics of the us store target are critics of the nhs gender affirming care just dinosaurs? well look, you know, kids do need to be educated on certain things. and, you need to be educated on certain things . and, you know, need to be educated on certain things. and, you know, kids are ioan— things. and, you know, kids are ioan wiinowi— things. and, you know, kids are born without judging— 135 and, you know, kids are born without judging anyone, ngnii— born without judging anyone, ngnis so— born without judging anyone, agnis so insy— born without judging anyone, right? so they don't judge isans.— right? so they don't judge isoiis. insy— right? so they don't judge people. they don't have these preconceptions— people. they don't have these preconceptions .— people. they don't have these preconceptions . so, you know, i preconceptions. so, you know, i get preconceptions. so, you know, i gsi ins— preconceptions. so, you know, i get the argument— preconceptions. so, you know, i get the argument where people will get the argument where people win-on— get the argument where people

will-oh,.need- get the argument where people will oh, need teach will say, oh, we need to teach kiis— will say, oh, we need to teach kiis aiowi— will say, oh, we need to teach kids about this— will say, oh, we need to teach kids about this because it's sgwaiiiy— kids about this because it's sgwaiiiy. iai— kids about this because it's equality. but at— kids about this because it's equality. but at the same time, wasn— equality. but at the same time, wnsn yos— equality. but at the same time, when you're teaching about when you're teaching kids about ising— when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom_ when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom and— when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom and constantly the classroom and constantly iwsning— the classroom and constantly pushing message, it's very pushing that message, it's very ooniwsing— confusing for kids, especially wasn— confusing for kids, especially wnsn insy-as — confusing for kids, especially when they're teenagers, when insy— when they're teenagers, when insy-issa— when they're teenagers, when they peer pressure, social they have peer pressure, social nsiia— they have peer pressure, social media influences,— they have peer pressure, social media influences, all of these iiiisasni— media influences, all of these different things— media influences, all of these different things combined . different things combined. inai-s— different things combined. inai-sins— different things combined. that's the real— different things combined. that's the real harm. and kids are susceptible— that's the real harm. and kids are susceptible to. so i think, you— are susceptible to. so i think, you know,— are susceptible to. so i think, you know, pushing all this you know, pushing all of this siaii— you know, pushing all of this stuff constantly— you know, pushing all of this stuff constantly is concerning . stuff constantly is concerning. is stuff constantly is concerning. is-wai— stuff constantly is concerning. is-wai on— stuff constantly is concerning. i is-war on gender? there is there a war on gender? there absolutely is. i mean,- i1»22; »2»1�* 92122”? there absolutely is. i mean, women ”»1»22; »2»1“ 92122”? there absolutely is. i mean, women are iasing— absolutely is. i mean, women are iasing ins— absolutely is. i mean, women are facing the biggest— absolutely is. i mean, women are facing the biggest threat to insi— facing the biggest threat to insia ngnis— facing the biggest threat to their rights in,— facing the biggest threat to their rights in, you know , since their rights in, you know, since their rights in, you know, since the suffragettes_ their rights in, you know, since the suffragettes movement. and it the suffragettes movement. and ii asaiiy— the suffragettes movement. and ii asaiiy is— the suffragettes movement. and it really is concerning to see inai— it really is concerning to see women that speak up for their aigiis— women that speak up for their agnis. vow— women that speak up for their rights. you had— women that speak up for their rights. you had professor kainissn— rights. you had professor kathleen stock, you know, sisaking— kathleen stock, you know, sisaking ai— kathleen stock, you know, speaking at the oxford union asssniiy— speaking at the oxford union recently-trans- speaking at the oxford union recently trans activist recently and trans activist sioansi— recently and trans activist sioansi in.— recently and trans activist stormed in. they glued themselves.— stormed in. they glued themselves. needed stormed in. they glued- themselves.-needed security. stormed in. they glued- ther needed - needed security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security ded security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security .ed security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security . and, curity. stormed in. they glued ther needed security . and, you y. she needed security. and, you know,— she needed security. and, you know, no— she needed security. and, you know, no woman— she needed security. and, you know, no woman should have to put know, no woman should have to iii-ina— know, no woman should have to iii-inai siniiy- know, no woman should have to put-that simply for- put up with that simply for sisaking—l put up with that simply for- speaking_, speaking up speaking their mind, speaking up for speaking their mind, speaking up ioa—so— speaking their mind, speaking up ioa—solininkl for women's rights. so i think its— for women's rights. so i think ii-s—insas-sl it's really wrong that there's anis— it's really wrong that there's this concerted— it's really wrong that there's this concerted push to take away the this concerted push to take away ins-oi— this concerted push to take away ins-oi — this concerted push to take away the of women. look, the rights of women. and look, you— the rights of women. and look, yon-noioiy— the rights of women. and look, yon-noioiy nai- the rights of women. and look, you nobody had an issue you know, nobody had an issue wiin— you know, nobody had an issue wiin anyonss— you know, nobody had an issue with anyone's identity until asssniiy. — with anyone's identity until recently. .was _ with anyone's identity until recently. was only when recently. it was only when isoiis— recently. it was only when

people started _ recently. it was only when people started to try and push inio— people started to try and push inio a— people started to try and push women into a corner to try and iaks— women into a corner to try and iaks insi— women into a corner to try and take their rights. _ women into a corner to try and take their rights. that's when it take their rights. that's when ii goi— take their rights. that's when ii goi asaiiy— take their rights. that's when it got really heated. women sport— sport, women, only spaces, that kins— sport, women, only spaces, that kins-.— sport, women, only spaces, that kini-, ioo. — sport, women, only spaces, that kini-, no so- sport, women, only spaces, that kind-, 100. so we- sport, women, only spaces, that kind ,100. so we just kind of thing, 100. so we just assi— kind of thing, 100. so we just nssi io— kind of thing, 100. so we just need to respect— kind of thing, 100. so we just need to respect women and, you know,— need to respect women and, you know, swsayioiy— need to respect women and, you know, everybody coexist . you know, everybody can coexist. you know,— know, everybody can coexist. you know-isans— know, everybody can coexist. you know,-trans people,- know, women, trans people, swsayioiy— know, women, trans people, everybody coexist. it's everybody can coexist. but it's aiowi— everybody can coexist. but it's aiowi ioing— everybody can coexist. but it's about doing that— everybody can coexist. but it's about doing that in respectful about doing that in a respectful manner. that's— about doing that in a respectful manner. that's not— about doing that in a respectful manner. that's not going to take away— manner. that's not going to take away ins— manner. that's not going to take away ins-oa— manner. that's not going to take away ins-oi ins- manner. that's not going to take away the or the spaces of away the rights or the spaces of wiai— away the rights or the spaces of women. what about- away the rights or the spaces of women. what about those, let's say, trans woman who'd like to say, a trans woman who'd like to participate if participate in women's sport if they're not allowed to, if they're not allowed to, if they're precluded from doing so, that could be deeply humiliating. and that could send them into a depressive spiral. don't we need to take their feelings into account? you know, everybody should— feelings into account? you know, everybody should be— 1g; 22 7 you know, everybody should be allowed 1»gs 22 17 you know, everybody should be allowed to play— everybody should be allowed to okay-sysayioiy- everybody should be allowed to play everybody should be play sports. everybody should be aiiowsi—ins- allowed to compete. but the soiwiion— allowed to compete. but the solution would _ allowed to compete. but the solution would be have solution would be to have a ssiaaais— solution would be to have a separate category. so british cysiing— separate category. so british cycling announced that cycling recently announced that insy-as— cycling recently announced that they're actually— cycling recently announced that they're actually going to ban iioiogisai— they're actually going to ban biological men— they're actually going to ban biological men competing in the saisgoay— biological men competing in the women's category , but they're women's category, but they're going— women's category, but they're going io— women's category, but they're going io naks— women's category, but they're going to make the men's category oisn. — going to make the men's category oisn. linai-s— going to make the men's category open. that's solution. or open. so that's one solution. or nawing— open. so that's one solution. or nawing a— open. so that's one solution. or even having a category that's for even having a category that's ioa—isoiisl for non—binary trans people to sonisis— for non—binary trans people to compete against— for non—binary trans people to compete against each other. ion-i— compete against each other. isn-i inas— compete against each other. isn't that transphobic- compete against each other. isn't that transphobic ?- compete against each other. isn't that transphobic ? to have isn't that transphobic? to have a category, you're a trans category, you're effectively saying woman

effectively saying a trans woman is woman? well that's the is not a woman? well that's the argument i think trans argument that i think trans athletes like to make because they they be, they don't want they want to be, you know, included as a woman. they want all of the same rights as a woman. but— they want all of the same rights as a woman. but have to look as a woman. but we have to look at as a woman. but we have to look ai—noi— as a woman. but we have to look ai—noi iain - as a woman. but we have to look at_not fair. you- at biology. it's not fair. you know,— at biology. it's not fair. you know—sioaisl at biology. it's not fair. youj know,_sports is know, competitive sports is sonsining— know, competitive sports is something that— know, competitive sports is something that women train for many,— something that women train for many, many— something that women train for many, many ysaas— something that women train for many, many years to do. and same wiin— many, many years to do. and same wiin isans— many, many years to do. and same with trans athletes.— many, many years to do. and same with trans athletes. they have to with trans athletes. they have io-iong— with trans athletes. they have io-iong ins.- with trans athletes. they have to-long time. but. to train for a long time. but wasn— to train for a long time. but when biologically male, when they're biologically male, insy— when they're biologically male, they-significant- they do have a significant aiwaniags— they do have a significant advantage. about advantage. so it's about iaiansss— advantage. so it's about fairness because don't advantage. so it's about- fairness because-don't have, fairness because you don't have, you— fairness because you don't have, yon—ining— fairness because you don't have, yon—ining in- fairness because you don't have, you—thing in sports. you know, dodi thing in sports. vow— you know, dodi thing in sports. vow-aiiow— you know, dodi thing in sports. you allow performance you don't allow performance snnansing— you don't allow performance snnansing-wnyi you don't allow performance. enhancing-why would enhancing drugs. so why would you aiiow— enhancing drugs. so why would you allow somebody that has a signiiisani— you allow somebody that has a. significant—compete significant advantage to compete againsi— significant advantage to compete againsi-s— significant advantage to compete againsi-s ii-s— significant advantage to compete against-? it's just- significant advantage to compete against ? it's just in the against women? it's just in the inisassi— against women? it's just in the inisassi oi— against women? it's just in the interest of fairness. how about the cover of glamour magazine this month ? you've been tweeting this month? you've been tweeting about it. you've got many about it. you've got so many followers. tweet a lot at followers. you tweet a lot at ollie london. always worth worth a this is an amazing a look. and this is an amazing story. it's a pregnant man on the front cover. is that progress? it's not progress isawss— progress? it's not progress because firstly, _ g7 it's not progress because firstly, this is one of ins— because firstly, this is one of is iiks— because firstly, this is one of the uk's biggest— because firstly, this is one of the uk's biggest women's nagazins— the uk's biggest women's magazine means. and, you know, it's magazine means. and, you know, its oiisnsiws — magazine means. and, you know, its oiisnsiws io— magazine means. and, you know, it's offensive to women because, you— it's offensive to women because, yon—wonsni it's offensive to women because,| yowwon—sn gsi you know, how many women get iasgnani— you know, how many women get iasgnani-ysaw—

you know, how many women get pregnant year? there's pregnant every year? there's aoni— pregnant every year? there's aownwoansni—l pregnant every year? there's. around—women get around 200 million women get iasgnani— around 200 million women get pregnant around— around 200 million women get pregnant around the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, it around the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you ound the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, he world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, not /orld. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, not include» two to, you know, not include women in this. _ two to, you know, not include women in this. why not feature a iasgnani— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman?— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman? i— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman? i know this isson— pregnant woman? i know this isson is— pregnant woman? i know this person islwoman,- pregnant woman? i know this person is woman, they're person is a woman, but they're iaying— person is a woman, but they're iaying-io— person is a woman, but they're iaying-io is- person is a woman, but they're iaying-io is a- person is a woman, but they're trying to be a man. trying to claim to be a man. insy-ws— trying to claim to be a man. insy-ws owi— trying to claim to be a man. they've cut their— trying to claim to be a man. they've cut their breasts off. why— they've cut their breasts off. way—asiwail they've cut their breasts off. - why _ actual woman why not feature an actual woman on—inink- on the magazine? i think it's issiiy— on the magazine? i think it's issiiy-ani- deeply offensive. and also, i inink— deeply offensive. and also, i ininklssis— deeply offensive. and also, i think sets dangerous think it sets a dangerous iasssisni— think it sets a dangerous precedent because person precedent because this person can-i— precedent because this person oan-i—soi can't even breastfeed now. so wnai— can't even breastfeed now. so wnai is— can't even breastfeed now. so wnai is inai— can't even breastfeed now. so what is that-us?- can't even breastfeed now. so what is that us? you what is that telling us? you know,— what is that telling us? you know, inai-s— what is that telling us? you know, that's actually going to cause problems for the kid and siwii— cause problems for the kid and siwii-inink— cause problems for the kid and stuff. -think it's- stuff. so i just think it's offensive.— stuff. so i just think it's- offensive. - distasteful offensive. it's very distasteful ani— offensive. it's very distasteful and.disrespect_ offensive. it's very distasteful and disrespect women. iii»: offensive. it's very distasteful and disrespect women. kai»: and it disrespect women. we want to and it disrespect women. we want io-in— and it disrespect women. we want io-inlwoiii— and it disrespect women. we want to in world where if you to live in a world where if you choose loretta rather than choose to be loretta rather than steve, then we're going to love you that. and obviously you you for that. and obviously you know, i've got no problem calling loretta saying calling steve loretta and saying she me, that's she that's for me, that's courtesy. but have we courtesy. yeah, but have we crossed the rubicon now ? has crossed the rubicon now? has trans ideology taken root in western society? is there any is there any rowing back from this ? ithink there any rowing back from this ? i think there is. i think we're starting— 7’ i think there is. i think we're starting to see a pushback now because people have got to a ioini— now because people have got to a ioini wnsas— now because people have got to a point where women— now because people have got to a point where women are getting wsay— point where women are getting wsay-wiin— point where women are getting very with biological men, very upset with biological men, women winning— very upset with biological men, women winning prizes women winning their prizes in spons— women winning their prizes in sions .— women winning their prizes in sions . ws-as— women winning their prizes in sports . we're also seeing, you sports. we're also seeing, you know,— sports. we're also seeing, you know, women's spaces being inwaisi—

know, women's spaces being- iwaswonnsn-sii— invaded. when you have women's aignis— invaded. when you have women's rights activists— invaded. when you have women's rights activists speaking like iioisssoa— rights activists speaking like professor kathleen stock or posy iaaksa— professor kathleen stock or posy iaaksa ksiiy. — professor kathleen stock or posy parker kelly. jane,— professor kathleen stock or posy parker kelly. jane, you know, insy-as— parker kelly. jane, you know, insy-as gsiiing— parker kelly. jane, you know, they're getting attacked or insy-as—oi- they're getting attacked or. insy-as—oi angay. they're getting kind of angry. isans—ii.- they're getting kind of angry. isans—wi- ani| they're getting kind of angry.| trans—up. and of trans activists turn up. and of inis— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is a— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is a very small ninoaiiy— course, this is a very small ninoaiiy oi— course, this is a very small minority of this— course, this is a very small minority of this particular group- — minority of this particular group. the group. you know, these are the anions— group. you know, these are the asiiwisis .— group. you know, these are the activists , just— group. you know, these are the activists , just-any- group. you know, these are the activists , just any group activists, just like any group you— activists, just like any group yon-know,- activists, just like any group you-know, just. activists, just like any group you know, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople know, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople andznow, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople and stuff.just stop activists, just like any group youpeople and stuff. they'rep oil people and stuff. they're ins— oil people and stuff. they're the-elements,- oil people and stuff. they're the elements, but the extreme elements, but insy-as— the extreme elements, but they're carrying the they're the ones carrying the iannss— they're the ones carrying the banners-lgbt- they're the ones carrying the banners lgbt movement. banners for the lgbt movement. ani— banners for the lgbt movement. ana-ii— banners for the lgbt movement. ana-ii ii-s— banners for the lgbt movement. and-it it's really- and i think it it's really naaniai— and i think it it's really harmful to— and i think it it's really harmful to the lgbt people , you harmful to the lgbt people, you know,— harmful to the lgbt people, you know-isoiis— harmful to the lgbt people, you know, - people that - harmful to the lgbt people, you know, people that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight people that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for)eople that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their; that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rightshave had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rights fore had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rights for so ad to fight for their rights for so iong—ii-s- to fight for their rights for sol long._it's harmful long. and indeed, it's harmful to long. and indeed, it's harmful io aoiwai— long. and indeed, it's harmful to actual trans— long. and indeed, it's harmful to actual trans people have to actual trans people that have nai— to actual trans people that have nailsiawggis— to actual trans people that have had.struggle_life| had to struggle their whole life wiin — had to struggle their whole life with - dysphoria. - had to struggle their whole life with dysphoria. so with gender dysphoria. so i inink— with gender dysphoria. so i think-activists- with gender dysphoria. so i think activists are the think these activists are the asai— think these activists are the isa-ani— think these activists are the real-and this- think these activists are the real-and this is- think these activists are the real-and this is the| think these activists are the real think these activists are the- reallthat the so—called gender point that the so—called gender ideology, which essentially says a is a woman and vice versa a man is a woman and vice versa , rather than respecting the way by which someone identifies important difference . so it's important difference. so it's obviously very full on it doesn't really help the trans community. in fact, you know, it's community. in fact, you know, is say— community. in fact, you know, it's very damaging— community. in fact, you know, it's very damaging to- 2 1�* go in fact, you know, it's very damaging to the trans sonnwniiy— it's very damaging to the transi community—know, community because, you know, iaii— community because, you know, aniii-iasi— community because, you know, until-last few— community because, you know, until last few years, they until the last few years, they insi— until the last few years, they were just happily living their iiwss— were just happily living their. iiwss—woioiy were just happily living their lives discussing nobody were just happily living their lives discussing them )body were just happily living their lives discussing them because was even discussing them because of was even discussing them because oi insi— was even discussing them because of their identity. _ was even discussing them because of their identity. and it's asaiiy— of their identity. and it's asaiiy sai—

of their identity. and it's asaiiy sai .— of their identity. and it's really sad . you know, have really sad. you know, i have isans— really sad. you know, i have iansa—- trans friends. i'm a spokesperson for caitlyn - jenner's_fairness jenner's organisation, fairness insi— jenner's organisation, fairness iiasi. i— jenner's organisation, fairness iiasi. i nays— jenner's organisation, fairness first. i have many trans iaisnis— first. i have many trans friends, they're saying it's friends, and they're saying it's asaiiy—ngnil friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of these right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of these transit now because of these trans aoiiwisis— now because of these trans activists and _ now because of these trans activists and all- now because of these trans activists and all these non—iinaay- activists and all these non—binary activists that have say— non—binary activists that have asaiiy insi— non—binary activists that have really their—so,- really their movement. so, you know— really their movement. so, you know .— really their movement. so, you know , ws— really their movement. so, you know , we need— really their movement. so, you know , we need fairness. we need know, we need fairness. we need to know, we need fairness. we need io assissi— know, we need fairness. we need io assissi isans,— know, we need fairness. we need to respect people, of course, iai— to respect people, of course, iai ws— to respect people, of course, iai ws aiso— to respect people, of course, but we also have— to respect people, of course, but we also have to bring all isoiis— but we also have to bring all isoiis inio— but we also have to bring all people into conversation . people into the conversation. wonsn— people into the conversation. wonsn-sisak.- people into the conversation. women speak. trans women need to speak. trans isoiis— women need to speak. trans isoiis-sisak- women need to speak. trans isoiis-sisak .- women need to speak. trans people speak . lgbt people need to speak. lgbt isoiis,— people need to speak. lgbt people,-shouldl people need to speak. lgbt. people,-should have people, everybody should have a iiaiogws— people, everybody should have a dialogue. instead— people, everybody should have a dialogue. instead of having insss— dialogue. instead of having insss-,— dialogue. instead of having insss-, yon- dialogue. instead of having- these-, you -these these people, you know, these isans— these people, you know, these trans-screaming- these people, you know, these trans screaming at trans activists screaming at| trans activists screaming at- women,_away their women, trying to take away their aigiis— rights. let's have a conversation let's rights. let's have a conversation - let's and conversation and let's try and sows— conversation and let's try and sows-so— conversation and let's try and solve so everybody is solve this so everybody is happy- _ solve this so everybody is happy- -w°n- solve this so everybody is happy. -won thisl solve this so everybody is- happy. -won this award , happy. you've won this award, wehba what for? so you actually won wehba what for? so you actually inis— wehba what for? so you actually inis ai— wehba what for? so you actually won this at the— wehba what for? so you actually won this at the cannes- �*fki»2;1�*:»? kiowa »22»7’ so you actually won this at the cannes film issiiwai— won this at the cannes film festival and— won this at the cannes film festival and recently won it aiongsiis— festival and recently won it alongside elon— festival and recently won it alongside elon musk's mother ? alongside elon musk's mother? may— alongside elon musk's mother? iiav ani— alongside elon musk's mother? iiav ani ii— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was a— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was a great honour isawss— may and it was a great honour isawss anis— may and it was a great honour because this was— may and it was a great honour because this was actually for my sosiai— because this was actually for my sooiai nsiia— because this was actually for my social media advocacy . and i've social media advocacy. and i've issn— social media advocacy. and i've issn working— social media advocacy. and i've been working very— social media advocacy. and i've been working very hard, you know , isiisaisi— been working very hard, you know , isiisaisi ny— been working very hard, you know , dedicated my entire life asaiiy— , dedicated my entire life many, or— , dedicated my entire life really, for helping people , for really, for helping people, for asking— really, for helping people, for helping women,— really, for helping people, for helping women, for helping kids. so helping women, for helping kids. so ii— helping women, for helping kids. so ii was— helping women, for helping kids. so it was really— helping women, for helping kids. so it was really nice to be assognissi— so it was really nice to be recognised for— so it was really nice to be recognised for this and to win an awai— recognised for this and to win an award with— recognised for this and to win an award with such distinguished isoiis— an award with such distinguished isoiis iiks— an award with such distinguished isoiis iiks ways—

an award with such distinguished people like maye musk . so i feel people like maye musk. so i feel wsay— people like maye musk. so i feel wsay iissssi— people like maye musk. so i feel very blessed and— people like maye musk. so i feel very blessed and actually isiisaisi— very blessed and actually dedicated—in. very blessed and actually. dedicated—in my dedicated this award in my sisssn— dedicated this award in my sisson io— dedicated this award in my speech to all— dedicated this award in my speech to all women around the works. — speech to all women around the works. onio— speech to all women around the world. ollie, thank— speech to all women around the world. ollie, thank you- speech to all women around the world. cal»: world. ollie, thank you for joining us in the studio. world. ollie, thank you for joining us in the studio . we'll joining us in the studio. we'll catch up really soon. thank you. a pleasure. ollie london a real pleasure. ollie london fascinate doing stuff. up, fascinate doing stuff. next up, i'll be speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable bowel cancen old man who has incurable bowel cancer, because the nhs cancer, all because the nhs turned into a covid only service dunng turned into a covid only service during the pandemic. he tells his story next. at 9:00, i'll be deaung his story next. at 9:00, i'll be dealing with the woke nationwide and at ten phillip schofield a busy couple of hours to come. see

we're proud to be gb news the people's channel. britain's . now people's channel. britain's. now the people's channel. britain's. now is sxosiisni— people's channel. britain's. now the excellent daily— 1�* britain's. now the excellent daily telegraph soiannisi— the excellent daily telegraph columnist allison pearson has inwa— columnist allison pearson has drawn attention— columnist allison pearson has drawn attention to the shocking sioay— drawn attention to the shocking sioay oi— drawn attention to the shocking sioay oi roan— drawn attention to the shocking story of john chapple , somebody story of john chapple, somebody wnoss— story of john chapple, somebody whose treatment— story of john chapple, somebody whose treatment for what was isiiswsi— whose treatment for what was isiiswsi io — whose treatment for what was believed to be— whose treatment for what was believed to be a— whose treatment for what was believed to be a fairly straightforward lump in his iowsi— straightforward lump in his iowsi was— straightforward lump in his bowel was delayed and ignored owing— bowel was delayed and ignored iwing cows.— bowel was delayed and ignored iwing covii. — bowel was delayed and ignored during covid. after two years of wrong diagnosis , he's cancelled

wrong diagnosis, he's cancelled appointments and missed opportunities to deal with the disease before it became life threatening . john disease before it became life threatening .john is disease before it became life threatening . john is one of the threatening. john is one of the many thousands of people who are victims of the government's pandemic response and the nhs seeming decision soon to become a covid only service. john has been told the cancer is in curable but is now seeking access to life saving cancer treatment in germany , folk can treatment in germany, folk can help via a special website which will quote in a moment. but john, welcome to the show. joe hi mark. thanks for having me on so its— hi mark. thanks for having me on so its a— hi mark. thanks for having me on so its a saw— hi mark. thanks for having me on so it's a really, really— so it's a really, really awniiing— so it's a really, really humbling to- so it's a really, really humbling to have you on the programs — humbling to have you on the programme. it's— humbling to have you on the programme. 23» humbling to have you on the programme. it's very important that your story is told in your article . so the one that you article. so the one that you featured in written by allison pearson, you said that although you were fobbed off by doctors, you were fobbed off by doctors, you trusted the nhs . that was you trusted the nhs. that was your big mistake. tell me more . your big mistake. tell me more. yeah, i think that's right. i

inink— yeah, i think that's right. i inink i— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think in— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think in this country we're certainly— think i think in this country we're certainly brought up to we kook— we're certainly brought up to we iook wi— we're certainly brought up to we iook wi io— we're certainly brought up to we iook no io ins— we're certainly brought up to we look up to the nhs and i think iaowgni— look up to the nhs and i think we're brought up— look up to the nhs and i think we're brought up to instinctively trust doctors and inai— instinctively trust doctors and an insy— instinctively trust doctors and that they have— instinctively trust doctors and that they have our best inisassis— that they have our best interests at— that they have our best interests at heart and they are, um interests at heart and they are, an , yon— interests at heart and they are, an , you know,— interests at heart and they are, um , you know, they'll take care um, you know, they'll take care of um, you know, they'll take care oi as— um, you know, they'll take care oi as ani— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't let— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't let things , you of us and won't let things, you know,— of us and won't let things, you know, gsi— of us and won't let things, you know, gsi ioo— of us and won't let things, you know, get too out— of us and won't let things, you know, get too out of control. iai— know, get too out of control. but obviously— know, get too out of control. but obviously that wasn't, that wasni— but obviously that wasn't, that wasni ins— but obviously that wasn't, that wasn't the case— but obviously that wasn't, that wasn't the case with me. so ysan— wasn't the case with me. so yeah, unfortunately i think i a iii— yeah, unfortunately i think i was a bit bit— yeah, unfortunately i think i was a bit bit naive and i've asaiissi— was a bit bit naive and i've realised the— was a bit bit naive and i've realised the importance of aiwosaiing— realised the importance of advocating for— realised the importance of advocating for yourself and making— advocating for yourself and making a— advocating for yourself and making a fuss— advocating for yourself and making a fuss and yeah , not, not making a fuss and yeah, not, not ising— making a fuss and yeah, not, not ising ioiiis— making a fuss and yeah, not, not being polite and— making a fuss and yeah, not, not being polite and yeah, just, insi— being polite and yeah, just, us say— being polite and yeah, just, just really advocating for yowssii— just really advocating for yourself basically . “»2s ' 1»2 yourself basically. yes. and you-ws— yourself basically. yes. and you've said that it's anger that now drives you to tell your story and of course to seek treatment. yeah, story and of course to seek treatment . yeah, i mean that's, treatment. yeah, i mean that's, inai-s— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it.— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it. i— yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it. i mean, i inink— that's basically it. i mean, i inink ii— that's basically it. i mean, i think it would— that's basically it. i mean, i think it would be very easy when sonsioiy— think it would be very easy when sonsioiy nas— think it would be very easy when somebody has a— think it would be very easy when somebody has a diagnosis like anis— somebody has a diagnosis like an .— somebody has a diagnosis like an . i— somebody has a diagnosis like inis. i insan— somebody has a diagnosis like this. i mean, obviously, it's iswasiaiing— this. i mean, obviously, it's devastating thing and traumatic

for devastating thing and traumatic ioa ns— devastating thing and traumatic ioa ns io— devastating thing and traumatic for me to deal— devastating thing and traumatic for me to deal with and also for all for me to deal with and also for aii ny— for me to deal with and also for aii ny ianiiy— for me to deal with and also for all my family, friends, everyone aoni— all my family, friends, everyone aoni so— all my family, friends, everyone around me. so i— all my family, friends, everyone around me. so i think it would be around me. so i think it would is sasy— around me. so i think it would is sasy io— around me. so i think it would is sasy io, wn— around me. so i think it would be easy to, um, you know , curl be easy to, um, you know, curl up in— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a soansa— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a corner and— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a corner and give up. just go away— up in a corner and give up. just go away aai,— up in a corner and give up. just go away aai, wn— up in a corner and give up. just go away and an .— up in a corner and give up. just go away and, um , uh, but, but go away and, um, uh, but, but i inink— go away and, um, uh, but, but i inink i-ws— go away and, um, uh, but, but i inink i-ws goi— go away and, um, uh, but, but i think i've got a— go away and, um, uh, but, but i think i've got a real determination to to, carry on iigniing— determination to to, carry on iigniing anis— determination to to, carry on fighting this thing as much as i cani— fighting this thing as much as i ani— fighting this thing as much as i can, and certainly— fighting this thing as much as i can, and certainly anger at the siiwaiion— can, and certainly anger at the situation and— can, and certainly anger at the situation and how— can, and certainly anger at the situation and how things were isaii— situation and how things were isaii wiin— situation and how things were dealt with is— situation and how things were dealt with is definitely a inking— dealt with is definitely a driving force _ dealt with is definitely a driving force and definitely the many— driving force and definitely the many nisssi— driving force and definitely the many missed opportunities are iaiy— many missed opportunities are truly appalling— many missed opportunities are truly appalling and not a good asiissiion— truly appalling and not a good reflection on— truly appalling and not a good reflection on the— truly appalling and not a good reflection on the service as you nai— reflection on the service as you aai an— reflection on the service as you had an operation. _ reflection on the service as you had an operation. but after the cancer returned , it seems you cancer returned, it seems you felt that even then the nhs were quite unsimple btec like you were a problem that needed to go away . yeah i mean, i'm not that away. yeah i mean, i'm not that i don't want to be too critical of my i think i have been cared for quite well since they actually discovered the cancer . actually discovered the cancer. um, i feel like they've given up

on as isanais— um, i feel like they've given up on as isanais a— um, i feel like they've given up on me perhaps a little bit now isawss— on me perhaps a little bit now because as you— on me perhaps a little bit now because as you say, the cancer gasw— because as you say, the cancer gasw iask— because as you say, the cancer gasw iask ani— because as you say, the cancer grew back and it's— because as you say, the cancer grew back and it's quite aggasssiws. — grew back and it's quite aggressive. and i was basically ioii— aggressive. and i was basically ioii ii-s— aggressive. and i was basically ioii its now— aggressive. and i was basically told it's now unlikely i'll ever be told it's now unlikely i'll ever is-iwi— told it's now unlikely i'll ever is-iwi i— told it's now unlikely i'll ever be-but i think- told it's now unlikely i'll ever be-but i think my- told it's now unlikely i'll ever be but i think my main be cured. but i think my main a ain— be cured. but i think my main a iaksaway— be cured. but i think my main a main takeaway from this is that the main takeaway from this is that is was— main takeaway from this is that is was is— main takeaway from this is that the nhs is quite— main takeaway from this is that the nhs is quite good at being asaoiiws— the nhs is quite good at being asasiiws .— the nhs is quite good at being reactive . and— the nhs is quite good at being reactive . and when you're reactive. and when you're iiagnossi— reactive. and when you're diagnosed with something ii— diagnosed with something serious, it does spring into asiion— serious, it does spring into action relatively fast in my sisnsnss — action relatively fast in my experience. but— action relatively fast in my experience. but it didn't need to experience. but it didn't need io gsi— experience. but it didn't need io gsi io— experience. but it didn't need io gsi io inis— experience. but it didn't need to get to this point . it's not to get to this point. it's not good— to get to this point. it's not gooi ai— to get to this point. it's not gooi ai ising— to get to this point. it's not good at being proactive and it's not good at being proactive and it's noi gooi— good at being proactive and it's noi gooi ai— good at being proactive and it's not good at pretty— good at being proactive and it's not good at pretty preventing iissasss— not good at pretty preventing iissasss oa— not good at pretty preventing diseases or getting things sonsi— diseases or getting things sorted before— diseases or getting things sorted before they actually get to sorted before they actually get io ssiows— sorted before they actually get to serious has— sorted before they actually get to serious has been my sksaiisnss— to serious has been my experience . - to serious has been my experience . j»2» �*"»2;»2;c to serious has been my- experience . do you feel, john, experience. do you feel, john, that something happened to the nhs within its culture during the pandemic that as an organisation group think kicked in and it became disproportionately obsessed with . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult— . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult not- . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult not to- 012»: . 1s7 2 so i think it's difficult not to draw inai— think it's difficult not to draw that conclusion— think it's difficult not to draw that conclusion now . um, i think that conclusion now. um, i think oiwioasiy— that conclusion now. um, i think oiwiowsiy ii— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was ,_ that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was , it— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was , it wasn't an obviously it was, it wasn't an

sasy— obviously it was, it wasn't an sasy ins.— obviously it was, it wasn't an easy time. nobody knew how ins— easy time. nobody knew how serious the virus— easy time. nobody knew how serious the virus was going to be serious the virus was going to is wasn— serious the virus was going to is wnsn ii— serious the virus was going to be when it first— serious the virus was going to be when it first came out. but i inink— be when it first came out. but i inink as— be when it first came out. but i inink as soon— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as it— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as it became clear inai— think as soon as it became clear inai ii— think as soon as it became clear inai ii nainiy— think as soon as it became clear that it mainly killed and, you know,— that it mainly killed and, you know, ins— that it mainly killed and, you know, the elderly people who were immunosuppressed there was a say— were immunosuppressed there was a wsay snaki— were immunosuppressed there was a very small percentage of isans.— a very small percentage of isoiis. ii— a very small percentage of isoiis. ii was— a very small percentage of people. it was a- a very small percentage of people. it was a serious illness for people. it was a serious illness ioa ii— people. it was a serious illness for it presented— people. it was a serious illness for it presented no— people. it was a serious illness for it presented no risk to , to for it presented no risk to, to nosi— for it presented no risk to, to nosi isoiis. — for it presented no risk to, to most people. um— for it presented no risk to, to most people. um yeah, i think it i— most people. um yeah, i think it i inink— most people. um yeah, i think it i inink i— most people. um yeah, i think it was i think i think— most people. um yeah, i think it was i think i think a lot of isoiis— was i think i think a lot of people probably think the same. i people probably think the same. i inink— people probably think the same. i inink ii— people probably think the same. iinink ii was— people probably think the same. i think it was a— people probably think the same. i think it was a huge overreaction- i think it was a huge overreaction and, and um, it ssssi— overreaction and, and um, it ssssi iaiaiy— overreaction and, and um, it seemed fairly obvious to me at the seemed fairly obvious to me at is ins— seemed fairly obvious to me at is iins .— seemed fairly obvious to me at is iins . i— seemed fairly obvious to me at the time . i remember saying in the time. i remember saying in wasn— the time. i remember saying in mann 2020— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that i— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that i think it's going— march 2020 that i think it's going io— march 2020 that i think it's going io ai— march 2020 that i think it's going to at these lockdowns are going— going to at these lockdowns are going io— going to at these lockdowns are going io kiii— going to at these lockdowns are going to kill more— going to at these lockdowns are going to kill more people than insy— going to kill more people than insy sasi — going to kill more people than they saved. and— going to kill more people than they saved. and i— going to kill more people than they saved. and i don't take any iisasws— they saved. and i don't take any iisasws in— they saved. and i don't take any pleasure in being— they saved. and i don't take any pleasure in being proven right on inan— pleasure in being proven right on inai. ani— pleasure in being proven right on that. and obviously didn't on that. and i obviously didn't skisoi— on that. and i obviously didn't skissi io— on that. and i obviously didn't skissi io is— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to be be— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to be be one of the isoiis— expect to be be one of the isoiis in— expect to be be one of the people in this— expect to be be one of the people in this position. but um, ysan— people in this position. but um, ysan i— people in this position. but um, ysan i inink— people in this position. but um, ysan. i inink .— people in this position. but um, yeah, i think , uh,— people in this position. but um, yeah, i think , uh, yeah, yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely— yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely .— yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely. i'd agree yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely . i'd agree with you absolutely. i'd agree with you on inai— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front .— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front . um, i want to on that front. um, i want to iaik— on that front. um, i want to iaik aiowi— on that front. um, i want to talk about the _ on that front. um, i want to talk about the treatment that yos— talk about the treatment that yos sssking— talk about the treatment that you're seeking in germany, and

you— you're seeking in germany, and yoa san— you're seeking in germany, and yoa isii— you're seeking in germany, and you can tell our— you're seeking in germany, and you can tell our viewers how insy— you can tell our viewers how insy san— you can tell our viewers how insy sngags— you can tell our viewers how they can engage with that ianisaiaa— they can engage with that particular particular care saniaign— particular particular care saniaign oi— particular particular care campaign of yours. 32»: particular particular care - campaign of yours. how are you feeling at the moment? john on a day to day basis, your physical and your mental health, how are you doing? um , it's basically you doing? um, it's basically wnsas— you doing? um, it's basically wnsas wnsas— you doing? um, it's basically where where am— »2»12» 1�*»g7’ um, it's basically where where am currently is that the where where am currently is that is onsno— where where am currently is that the chemo that— where where am currently is that the chemo that i'm— where where am currently is that the chemo that i'm on is keeping swsayining— the chemo that i'm on is keeping swsayining . — the chemo that i'm on is keeping swsayining . insy— the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything . 1�*»2;«a »251 the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything. 1�*»2;«a 2.51. the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything . 1�*»2;«a 2 c everything. they call it stable disease at the moment, so it's not growing any more. it's not shrinking any more. it's kind of on a certain level. but um, i have chemo on a, on a fortnightly cycle. um, probably . three out of every two weeks. i feel okay for maybe 2 or 3 days. so it's, it's, you know , days. so it's, it's, you know, it's keeping me alive. it's prolonging my life. this treatment i'm currently having . treatment i'm currently having. but it's, it's not a treatment which is going to cure me. and it's also not a life that i, i try and take my moments where i where i can and try and make the

most of when i'm feeling okay. and you know, see friends and go out and all that sort of stuff. but yeah , the vast majority of but yeah, the vast majority of my time, i feel sick and in pain and um, you know, all the, all the horrible side effects that go with , you know, what is go with, you know, what is essentially a toxic, you know, a poison that's going into your bloodstream. so it is , you know, bloodstream. so it is, you know, it's working sort of. but yeah, it's working sort of. but yeah, it definitely comes at the expense of , um, yeah, just it definitely comes at the expense of, um, yeah, just being comfortable and not in pain and yeah, just generally feeling okay. and what about your spirit, your mental health? how are you feeling that that- 2 c 2 7 how are you feeling that that must iiasiaais— are you feeling that that must fluctuate to. _ are you feeling that that must fluctuate to. 2423 1�* 2»2;ga fluctuate to. yeah, absolutely. it fluctuates . yes. um, i think it fluctuates. yes. um, i think every knock back we get every bit of disappointment, every , bit of disappointment, every, um, news from a doctor that isn't isn't necessarily positive. i think , uh, it takes positive. i think, uh, it takes me a little while to recover from that. probably you know, a few days i'll sort of go into a

bit of a depression afterwards and then bounce back. so i think it's , you know, it's very up and it's, you know, it's very up and down, as you would expect. i think. but right now i'm, i'm feeling more positive than i was obviously mentioned , uh, that obviously mentioned, uh, that i've been doing this fundraising thing. um, allison pearson obviously wrote that she wrote a lovely article and i went on her podcast to and that helped raise a lot of awareness and a lot of money to, to help fundraise these treatments. so i'm feeling , i'm feeling relatively, relatively positive at the moment. well, there you are. insas-s— moment. well, there you are. insas-s yoas— well, there you are. there's your handsome, your nanisons— there's your handsome, your handsome face— there's your handsome, your handsome face on the go fund me page— handsome face on the go fund me page -— handsome face on the go fund me iags . isii— handsome face on the go fund me iags . isii ny— handsome face on the go fund me page . tell my viewers and page. tell my viewers and iisisnsas— page. tell my viewers and listeners how— page. tell my viewers and listeners how they can how they can contribute,— listeners how they can how they can contribute, should they so wisn— can contribute, should they so wisn .— can contribute, should they so wisn . wn— can contribute, should they so wisn . win an — can contribute, should they so wish . um um so— can contribute, should they so wish . um um so it's a go fund me wish. um um so it's a go fund me kink— wish. um um so it's a go fund me iink wnion— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which i— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which i believe you snoaii— link which which i believe you snoaii is— link which which i believe you should be able— link which which i believe you should be able to— link which which i believe you should be able to share what i'm raising— should be able to share what i'm raising nonsy— should be able to share what i'm raising money for. _ should be able to share what i'm raising money for. c raising money for. it's experimental- raising money for. it's experimental treatment at um which i think will eventually

become a standard cancer treatment. it's basically vaccine based . uh, they, they vaccine based. uh, they, they take, they take your blood, they segment it, they look for all of your mutation patterns and markers and that kind of stuff . markers and that kind of stuff. and then they make a specialised vaccine in this personalised treatment based on your cancer specifically. um, i found out about it through someone else. i met in chemotherapy. who's got the same diagnosis as me. stage four bowel cancer that spread to the liver . she's only 30. four bowel cancer that spread to the liver. she's only 30. i'm 34. she's a, i think she's 37. so another person's far too, far too young and was really been let down by the system . um, but let down by the system. um, but she's found out about this stuff. she's currently having it , um stuff. she's currently having it y um r stuff. she's currently having it , um , she's waiting to see , um, she's waiting to see whether it's working in her body. but before they do it , body. but before they do it, they have it in vitro in, in a petri dish. they put her cancer in there. they put this vaccine in there. they put this vaccine in there. they put this vaccine in there and it did start

attacking the cancer. it worked as as it was supposed to. so it's early and it's experimental and obviously not available on the nhs and not even available in this country. but yeah, i feel like at this point i don't really have much at this point. my really have much at this point. my choices are accept ing inisiiniis— my choices are accept ing indefinite chemo, chemo therapy aniii— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy aniii ii— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy aniii ii siois— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy until it stops working or to try sonsining— until it stops working or to try something drastic and yeah, isoiis— something drastic and yeah, isoiis nays— something drastic and yeah, people have given very gsnsroasiy— people have given very generously and i've been overwhelmed— generously and i've been overwhelmed by the support for the overwhelmed by the support for is ssoni— overwhelmed by the support for the second option. so, so, so or— the second option. so, so, so ior psopis— the second option. so, so, so for people that are not brilliant on the internet, what do they do? they go to go fund me do they do? they go to go fund as ani— do they do? they go to go fund as ani insa— do they do? they go to go fund me and then what— do they do? they go to go fund me and then what do- »2»12» »22»7 they go to go fund me and then what do they do? wnai— me and then what do they do? wnai io— me and then what do they do? wnai io insy— me and then what do they do? what do they type in? um, so, so l, what do they type in? um, so, so i, i what do they type in? um, so, so i. i isiisws— what do they type in? um, so, so i, i believe kyiv if you probably google my name and go fund me, it should come up there is right link. i think that's right. i looked earlier and i iasi— right. i looked earlier and i as iai— right. i looked earlier and i as oar roan— right. i looked earlier and i as oar roan in.— 2 »g1 i looked earlier and i just put john in. john and it ai— just put john in. john and it came up so john— just put john in. john and it came up so john chapel c h apl e john— came up so john chapel c h apl e on snaisi—

came up so john chapel c h apl e on snaisi a— came up so john chapel c h apl e on snaisi a go— came up so john chapel c h apl e john chapel a go fund me i'm irsiiy— john chapel a go fund me i'm pretty confident— john chapel a go fund me i'm pretty confident that my viewers and pretty confident that my viewers ani iisisnsrs— pretty confident that my viewers and listeners will— pretty confident that my viewers and listeners will help move the ini— and listeners will help move the iiai .— and listeners will help move the iiai . iii— and listeners will help move the dial. i'll certainly— and listeners will help move the dial. i'll certainly be chipping in siraigni— dial. i'll certainly be chipping in straight after— dial. i'll certainly be chipping in straight after the show. john it's in straight after the show. john is so— in straight after the show. john is so gooi— in straight after the show. john is so gooi io— in straight after the show. john it's so good to have you on the snow.— it's so good to have you on the snow. wors— it's so good to have you on the show. more power— it's so good to have you on the show. more power to you. it's inioriani— show. more power to you. it's important that— show. more power to you. it's important that you've told your son— important that you've told your siory ani— important that you've told your siory ani aiso— important that you've told your story and also all— important that you've told your story and also all my hope and praysrs— story and also all my hope and praysrs ior— story and also all my hope and prayers for this— story and also all my hope and prayers for this treatment to asiaaiiy— prayers for this treatment to actually really— prayers for this treatment to actually really help. quick snoai— actually really help. quick snoai oar— actually really help. quick shout out to _ actually really help. quick shout out to your missus, your iowsiy— shout out to your missus, your iowsiy airs. — shout out to your missus, your lovely mrs. childhood sweethearts- lovely mrs. childhood sweethearts . you were. she's sweethearts. you were. she's wriiisn— sweethearts. you were. she's written about— sweethearts. you were. she's written about in— sweethearts. you were. she's written about in the in the ariisis— written about in the in the article. nikki,— written about in the in the article. nikki, how's nikki ioing— article. nikki, how's nikki ioing s — article. nikki, how's nikki ioings un— article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? uh, she- article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? 1�* article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? 212 article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? 2.12 article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? 12.12 doing? uh, she. she's okay. i mean, she's she's a pillar of strength for me at the moment. she obviously with how i'm feeling, i can't often do housework. i can't cook . you housework. i can't cook. you know, sometimes i can barely even wash myself. so um, unfortunately for her, she's ended up in her early 30s, becoming almost like a you know, a part time carer. but she's, she's dealt with it with, with

grace and, and good humour and the love that has always characterised our relationship. i mean , she's, she's been an i mean, she's, she's been an angel really. so so yeah, i mean i know it's difficult for her because cancer doesn't just affect the person it affects, it affects everyone. but yeah, she's, she's, she's wonderful. well, listen, she's a lucky lady to what a guy. a well, listen, she's a lucky lady to what a guy . a privilege to to what a guy. a privilege to nays— to what a guy. a privilege to naws yoa— to what a guy. a privilege to naws yoa on— to what a guy. a privilege to have you on the— »g2.«a a privilege to have you on the show. i do hope yoa-ii— have you on the show. i do hope yoa-ii ioin— have you on the show. i do hope yoa-ii roin as— have you on the show. i do hope you'll join us again— have you on the show. i do hope you'll join us again to let us know— you'll join us again to let us know now— you'll join us again to let us know how you're— you'll join us again to let us know how you're getting on with war— know how you're getting on with an as— know how you're getting on with that new treatment. and as i say.— that new treatment. and as i say. i— that new treatment. and as i say. i-inai— that new treatment. and as i say. i-inai ny- that new treatment. and as i say, i that my viewers and say, i know that my viewers and iisisnsrs—ior- say, i know that my viewers and listeners—for you- say, i know that my viewers and listeners—for you .- listeners are rooting for you. roan.— listeners are rooting for you. join inank— listeners are rooting for you. john, thank you _ listeners are rooting for you. john, thank you . john, thank you. thanks a lot, mark. there you go. john chappell, what- mark. there you go. john chappell, what a- »g»2» john chappell, what a story. »g2» john chappell, what a story. we've rsasnsi— chappell, what a story. we've rsasnsi oar— chappell, what a story. we've reached out to— chappell, what a story. we've reached out to the nhs trust in gassiion— reached out to the nhs trust in gassiion ior— reached out to the nhs trust in question for comment, but as yet nays— question for comment, but as yet naws noi— question for comment, but as yet have not received— question for comment, but as yet have not received a— question for comment, but as yet have not received a statement. aski— have not received a statement. wsai ai— have not received a statement. wsai as in— have not received a statement. wski as in iiai— have not received a statement. next up in dial dolan in which in— next up in dial dolan in which in raking— next up in dial dolan in which in raking yoar— next up in dial dolan in which i'm taking your video calls , is i'm taking your video calls, is raiiiii— i'm taking your video calls, is phillip schofield— i'm taking your video calls, is phillip schofield the victim of awiisn— phillip schofield the victim of a witch hunt?— phillip schofield the victim of a witch hunt? plus, i'll be isaiing— a witch hunt? plus, i'll be dealing with— a witch hunt? plus, i'll be dealing with the woke nationwide in my— dealing with the woke nationwide in my iig— dealing with the woke nationwide in my iig opinion— dealing with the woke nationwide in my big opinion at nine and ssnoiisii— in my big opinion at nine and schofield at— in my big opinion at nine and schofield at ten. _ in my big opinion at nine and schofield at ten. it's a busy snow.— schofield at ten. it's a busy snow. sss— schofield at ten. it's a busy show. see you—

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in two. well, i in two.j well, it's i in two. - well, it's time | in awo- well, it's time now | in iwo. — well, it's time now for dale ioian— well, it's time now for dale ioian in— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which i— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which i take your video saris.— dolan in which i take your video oaiis. ani— dolan in which i take your video calls. and this— dolan in which i take your video calls. and this evening, amid ins— calls. and this evening, amid ins iaiioai— calls. and this evening, amid the fallout from _ calls. and this evening, amid the fallout from phillip schofield _ the fallout from phillip schofield departure from itv , schofield departure from itv, sssai— schofield departure from itv, several public— schofield departure from itv, several public figures, insiaiing— several public figures, including former bbc presenter kionari— including former bbc presenter richard bacon— including former bbc presenter richard bacon ,_ including former bbc presenter richard bacon , have said it's richard bacon, have said it's rins— richard bacon, have said it's iins io— richard bacon, have said it's iins io sioi— richard bacon, have said it's time to stop piling on this nanan— time to stop piling on this human being— time to stop piling on this human being .— time to stop piling on this human being . meanwhile, the human being. meanwhile, the noinsr— human being. meanwhile, the noinsr oi— human being. meanwhile, the mother of tv— human being. meanwhile, the mother of tv presenter caroline wack— mother of tv presenter caroline riask. wno — mother of tv presenter caroline flack, who tragically took her iiis — flack, who tragically took her iiis anio— flack, who tragically took her life amid media— flack, who tragically took her life amid media pressure , has life amid media pressure, has ioii— life amid media pressure, has ioii ins— life amid media pressure, has told the bbc's_ life amid media pressure, has told the bbc's newsnight that itv t0ld the bbc's newsnight that iiv nays— t0ld the bbc's newsnight that iiv aaws noi— told the bbc's newsnight that itv have not learned from their nisiakss— itv have not learned from their nisiakss .— itv have not learned from their nisiakss . so— itv have not learned from their mistakes . so is— itv have not learned from their mistakes. so is the itv have not learned from their mistakes . so is the criticism mistakes. so is the criticism iowaris— mistakes. so is the criticism towards schofield now too harsh? is towards schofield now too harsh? is insis— towards schofield now too harsh? is insrs a— towards schofield now too harsh? is there a witch— towards schofield now too harsh? is there a witch hunt against ins— is there a witch hunt against is iornsrs— is there a witch hunt against the former? this— is there a witch hunt against the former? this morning irsssnisr— the former? this morning irsssnisr .— the former? this morning presenter . let's get the views presenter. let's get the views of presenter. let's get the views oi aian— presenter. let's get the views oi aian in— presenter. let's get the views of alan in grimsby. presenter. let's get the views of alan in grimsby . sue in of alan in grimsby. sue in cassnirs— of alan in grimsby. sue in cheshire and— of alan in grimsby. sue in cheshire and john in birmingham . risi— cheshire and john in birmingham . rirsi oi— cheshire and john in birmingham . rirsi oi aii— cheshire and john in birmingham . first of all, alan— cheshire and john in birmingham . first of all, alan in grimsby, a warm welcome—

. first of all, alan in grimsby, a warm welcome to mark dolan ionigni. — a warm welcome to mark dolan ionigni. a— a warm welcome to mark dolan tonight. a welcome new be. wnai-s— tonight. a welcome new be. was yoar— tonight. a welcome new be. what's your reaction to this siory— what's your reaction to this siory .— what's your reaction to this siory . — what's your reaction to this siory . oii— what's your reaction to this story. obe dumas- what's your reaction to this story . 05 j. i don't think story. obe dumas. i don't think insrs-s— story. obe dumas. i don't think insrs-s any— story. obe dumas. i don't think there's any kind— story. obe dumas. i don't think there's any kind of— story. 05 j. i don't think there's any kind of witch hunt againsi— there's any kind of witch hunt against schofield at all. he's a ioarin— against schofield at all. he's a ioarin rais— against schofield at all. he's a fourth rate celebrity who's iroiaiiy— fourth rate celebrity who's probably quite— fourth rate celebrity who's probably quite well known on the tv probably quite well known on the iv .— probably quite well known on the iv . ani— probably quite well known on the iv . ani ii-s— probably quite well known on the tv , and it's probably right, tv, and it's probably right, giwsn— tv, and it's probably right, giwsn wnai-s— tv, and it's probably right, given what's happened , that the given what's happened, that the iosas— given what's happened, that the iooas is— given what's happened, that the iooas is on— given what's happened, that the focus is on him.— given what's happened, that the focus is on him. but i don't inink— focus is on him. but i don't think there's— focus is on him. but i don't think there's any- focus is on him. but i don't think there's any witch hunt againsi— think there's any witch hunt againsi nin — think there's any witch hunt against him at— think there's any witch hunt against him at .— think there's any witch hunt against him at . all »2; g2 against him at. all he's argued. aian— against him at. all he's argued. alan that this is homophobic . if alan that this is homophobic. if he was a straight man, this wouldn't be a story. do you share that view? alan dumas i don't. ithink share that view? alan dumas i don't. i think that's absolute nonsense . what— 212 2 i think that's absolute nonsense . what i've seen of his nonsense. what i've seen of his inisnisw— nonsense. what i've seen of his inisnisw ani— nonsense. what i've seen of his interview and his— nonsense. what i've seen of his interview and his explanation of it interview and his explanation of ii woaii— interview and his explanation of ii woaii sss— interview and his explanation of it would seem to— interview and his explanation of it would seem to be him trying to it would seem to be him trying io rasiiiy— it would seem to be him trying io rasiiiy or— it would seem to be him trying to justify or make— it would seem to be him trying to justify or make himself out to justify or make himself out io is— to justify or make himself out io is a— to justify or make himself out to be a victim— to justify or make himself out to be a victim or— to justify or make himself out to be a victim or the victims in rais— to be a victim or the victims in ran as— to be a victim or the victims in an ais— to be a victim or the victims in this are his wife,— to be a victim or the victims in this are his wife, his children ani— this are his wife, his children ani ins— this are his wife, his children and the people— this are his wife, his children and the people who were actually on is —

and the people who were actually on is ssi— and the people who were actually on the set working— and the people who were actually on the set working with them. ani— on the set working with them. ani ii— on the set working with them. ani ii is — on the set working with them. and if the stories— on the set working with them. and if the stories that have oar— and if the stories that have come out about— and if the stories that have come out about him and his isnawioar— come out about him and his behaviour on— come out about him and his behaviour on set— come out about him and his behaviour on set and what kind of behaviour on set and what kind oi inna— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna he— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna he was or anyining— of prima donna he was or anyining io— of prima donna he was or anything to 90- of prima donna he was or anything to go by, i imagine insrs-s— anything to go by, i imagine insrs-s gaiis— anything to go by, i imagine there's quite a— anything to go by, i imagine there's quite a few people who wiri— there's quite a few people who wiii is— there's quite a few people who wiii is gaiis— there's quite a few people who will be quite happy to see him iaii— will be quite happy to see him iaii .— will be quite happy to see him iaii . iai— will be quite happy to see him iaii . iai io— will be quite happy to see him fall. but do think— will be quite happy to see him fall . but do think it's fall. but do think it's homophobic, homophobic . do you homophobic, homophobic. do you rank— homophobic, homophobic. do you inink insrs-s— homophobic, homophobic. do you think there's a— homophobic, homophobic. do you think there's a witch hunt againsi— think there's a witch hunt against him?— think there's a witch hunt against him? absolutely not. ass— against him? absolutely not. ws-s iroiaiiy— against him? absolutely not. he's probably getting the right iswsi— he's probably getting the right iswsi oi— he's probably getting the right level of attention that he assis— level of attention that he needs. well— level of attention that he needs. well i'm delighted to wsios— needs. well i'm delighted to welcome another brand new star to welcome another brand new star io iiark— welcome another brand new star io iiark ioian— welcome another brand new star to mark dolan tonight, and wars— to mark dolan tonight, and wars roan— to mark dolan tonight, and that's john in— to mark dolan tonight, and that's john in england , second that's john in england, second airy— that's john in england, second siiy oi— that's john in england, second city of birmingham . city of birmingham. john, what do city of birmingham. john, what is ysa— city of birmingham. john, what do you think ? do you worry for do you think? do you worry for schofield's mental health? he hinted that he considered suicide when all of this blew up. should we worry about that ? up. should we worry about that? good evening, mark. um, i think we good evening, mark. um, i think ws snoaii— good evening, mark. um, i think we should worry— good evening, mark. um, i think we should worry slightly because oiwioasiy— we should worry slightly because obviously philip— we should worry slightly because obviously philip has been living wisn— obviously philip has been living wiin ins— obviously philip has been living win is say— obviously philip has been living with the day to— obviously philip has been living with the day to day worry and iornsni— with the day to day worry and iornsni oi— with the day to day worry and torment of whether this story woaii—

torment of whether this story woaii is— torment of whether this story would be exposed. and now it aas. — would be exposed. and now it aas. ws-s— would be exposed. and now it has. he's obviously dealing with airsnsnioas— has. he's obviously dealing with a tremendous amount of pressure isas.— a tremendous amount of pressure nsrs. ani— a tremendous amount of pressure nsrs. ani wasn— a tremendous amount of pressure here. and when you— a tremendous amount of pressure here. and when you we have to remember he's— here. and when you we have to remember he's lost his his job, waisn— remember he's lost his his job, waisn ns— remember he's lost his his job, waisn as nai— remember he's lost his his job, which he had a— remember he's lost his his job, which he had a daily routine on. ws-s— which he had a daily routine on. ws-s rosi— which he had a daily routine on. ws-s iosi ais— which he had a daily routine on. he's lost his friendship , aukus. he's lost his friendship, aukus. ani— he's lost his friendship, aukus. ani ii-s— he's lost his friendship, aukus. ani ii-s wsry— he's lost his friendship, aukus. and it's very easy— he's lost his friendship, aukus. and it's very easy to go into a iark— and it's very easy to go into a iark iiass— and it's very easy to go into a dark place when— and it's very easy to go into a dark place when you're having sasn— dark place when you're having sasn aoani— dark place when you're having such amount of— dark place when you're having such amount of scrutiny. put on yoa.— such amount of scrutiny. put on yoa. in— such amount of scrutiny. put on yoa. i-n noi— such amount of scrutiny. put on you. i'm not condoning some of a...— you. i'm not condoning some of ins. ain— you. i'm not condoning some of ins. aniss— you. i'm not condoning some of the, um, unwise mistakes. he's mass.— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's nais. an.— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's nais. iirn. iai— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's made. um, but i— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's made. um, but i do think it is a irsnsnioas— made. um, but i do think it is a tremendous amount of pressure . tremendous amount of pressure. ani— tremendous amount of pressure. ani i— tremendous amount of pressure. ani i rsrnsrnsri— tremendous amount of pressure. and i remember the sad story aioai— and i remember the sad story about caroline— and i remember the sad story about caroline flack , and about caroline flack, and oiwioasiy— about caroline flack, and obviously we— about caroline flack, and obviously we don't want to read in a— obviously we don't want to read in a isw— obviously we don't want to read in a few weeks— obviously we don't want to read in a few weeks time that philip nai— in a few weeks time that philip aai ions— in a few weeks time that philip had done something untoward issaass— had done something untoward issaass ii-s— had done something untoward because it's so— had done something untoward because it's so easy to slip inro— because it's so easy to slip inio a— because it's so easy to slip inio a say— because it's so easy to slip into a very dark— because it's so easy to slip into a very dark hole. but i do issi— into a very dark hole. but i do issi av.— into a very dark hole. but i do feel itv, senior— into a very dark hole. but i do feel itv, senior management at aiinoagn— feel itv, senior management at aiinoagn nss— feel itv, senior management at although he's he's— feel itv, senior management at although he's he's now not working— although he's he's now not working with— although he's he's now not working with them. but i think insy— working with them. but i think insy siiii— working with them. but i think they still have— working with them. but i think they still have a— working with them. but i think they still have a duty of care iowaris— they still have a duty of care towards him _ they still have a duty of care towards him .— they still have a duty of care towards him . um, and although

towards him. um, and although ns-s— towards him. um, and although ns-s mais— towards him. um, and although he's made mistakes, yes. but i inink— he's made mistakes, yes. but i inink insy— he's made mistakes, yes. but i think they still— he's made mistakes, yes. but i think they still should be making— think they still should be making sure— think they still should be making sure he's got the right care around him— making sure he's got the right care around him to keep him on the care around him to keep him on is iigni— care around him to keep him on the right road. _ care around him to keep him on the right road. »g»2» care around him to keep him on the right road. g»2» the right road. let's now go to a mark dolan tonight legend and sue in cheshire . sue, do you sue in cheshire. sue, do you have sympathy for schofield ? i'm have sympathy for schofield? i'm a bit i'm a bit torn, actually, mark because as i think , um , mark because as i think, um, having , mark because as i think, um, having, having , um, mark because as i think, um, having, having, um, a mark because as i think, um, having, having , um, a young mark because as i think, um, having, having, um, a young man as a lover , as long as what as a lover, as long as what they've said about it is true that he was over, he was in his early 22nd, that it was conceptual , early 22nd, that it was conceptual, consensual and i don't see a problem with that . don't see a problem with that. a lot of older, older, gay men iaks— a lot of older, older, gay men iaks a— a lot of older, older, gay men iaks a isi— a lot of older, older, gay men take a lot younger , um, men as take a lot younger, um, men as insi— take a lot younger, um, men as insir iss— take a lot younger, um, men as their lovers and— take a lot younger, um, men as their lovers and partners and, you— their lovers and partners and, yoa know.— their lovers and partners and, you know, shock,— their lovers and partners and, you know, shock, horror. a man was-s— you know, shock, horror. a man was-s nawing— you know, shock, horror. a man who's having an— you know, shock, horror. a man who's having an affair tells kiss— who's having an affair tells iiss aioai— who's having an affair tells lies about it.— who's having an affair tells lies about it. that's not anasaai—

lies about it. that's not unusual either. however, i do inink— unusual either. however, i do inink inas— unusual either. however, i do think that the _ unusual either. however, i do think that the onus on in this, row.— think that the onus on in this, isory. rsaiiy— think that the onus on in this, isory. rsaiiy is— think that the onus on in this, rory, really is on— think that the onus on in this, rory, really is on the management of itv. i can't isiisws— management of itv. i can't believe that— management of itv. i can't believe that they didn't they iiin-i— believe that they didn't they iiin-i know— believe that they didn't they didn't know what was going on. an.— didn't know what was going on. an. giwsn— didn't know what was going on. an. giwsn inas— didn't know what was going on. um, given that this young man in— um, given that this young man in san— um, given that this young man was in such prominent positions in aii— was in such prominent positions in aii insss— was in such prominent positions in aii insss .— was in such prominent positions in all these , um,— was in such prominent positions in all these , um, dos that were in all these, um, dos that were going— in all these, um, dos that were going on— in all these, um, dos that were going iiks— in all these, um, dos that were going on, like the— in all these, um, dos that were going on, like the award ceremony , when no other runner ceremony, when no other runner nas— ceremony, when no other runner aas ssr— ceremony, when no other runner aas issn— ceremony, when no other runner has ever been there at all. and oiwioasiy— has ever been there at all. and obviously schofield was pushing that obviously schofield was pushing inai ani— obviously schofield was pushing inai ani insy— obviously schofield was pushing that and they seem to have soniisisiy— that and they seem to have completely bypassed their duty of completely bypassed their duty oi as— completely bypassed their duty oi io— completely bypassed their duty of care to the— completely bypassed their duty of care to the young man in any ani— of care to the young man in any ani i— of care to the young man in any case. and i think— of care to the young man in any case. and i think there needs to be case. and i think there needs to is an— case. and i think there needs to be an investigation, not only inro— be an investigation, not only inio ins— be an investigation, not only into the toxic— be an investigation, not only into the toxic abuse, especially the into the toxic abuse, especially is way— into the toxic abuse, especially is way insy— into the toxic abuse, especially the way they appear to have irsaisi— the way they appear to have treated some— the way they appear to have treated some of— the way they appear to have treated some of their guests on the treated some of their guests on is snow. — treated some of their guests on the show, both— treated some of their guests on the show, both him and holly and the show, both him and holly and the management— the show, both him and holly and the management and other people . insy— the management and other people . insy nssi— the management and other people . insy nssi io— the management and other people . they need to look— the management and other people . they need to look into the inwssiigais— . they need to look into the investigate the _ . they need to look into the investigate the sort of toxic saiiars — investigate the sort of toxic culture there _ investigate the sort of toxic culture there and also clarify wnsinsr— culture there and also clarify whether this— culture there and also clarify

whether this culture is only in rais— whether this culture is only in an ioni— whether this culture is only in this bomb programme and whether it's, this bomb programme and whether its. yoa— this bomb programme and whether its. yoa know.— this bomb programme and whether it's, you know, throughout the wnois — it's, you know, throughout the wnois oi— it's, you know, throughout the wnois oi riv— it's, you know, throughout the whole of itv as— it's, you know, throughout the whole of itv as well. so has rais— whole of itv as well. so has an snangsi— whole of itv as well. so has this changed your view of itv ? this changed your view of itv? be this changed your view of itv? is nonssi— this changed your view of itv? be honest and— this changed your view of itv? be honest and i've never watched itv be honest and i've never watched iiv ior— be honest and i've never watched iiv ior ins— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last 30— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last 30 years and why— itv for the last 30 years and way nois— itv for the last 30 years and way nois wo— itv for the last 30 years and why not? no, um,- itv for the last 30 years and why not? no, um, i haven't. and said— why not? no, um, i haven't. and said nayis— why not? no, um, i haven't. and said nayis us— why not? no, um, i haven't. and said maybe us came about. i've not said maybe us came about. i've noi waisnsi— said maybe us came about. i've not watched the— said maybe us came about. i've not watched the bbc except for the not watched the bbc except for is rsiair— not watched the bbc except for is rsiair snsn— not watched the bbc except for the repair shop. well yeah, wsii— the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's.— the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's. _ the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's. that's probably one of their better programmes. interesting stuff. john what do you think about the future of this morning? can it go . on this morning? can it go. on it's very difficult to say, iiark. — it's very difficult to say, mark, isn't— it's very difficult to say, mark, isn't it?- it's very difficult to say, mark, isn't it? i mean, i was iasi— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was as ranking.— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was just thinking, i— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was just thinking, i remember when raini— just thinking, i remember when raiiii sans— just thinking, i remember when philip came out— just thinking, i remember when philip came out as admitting he was philip came out as admitting he gay— philip came out as admitting he gay on— philip came out as admitting he gay on rais— philip came out as admitting he was gay on this morning. um and insisai— was gay on this morning. um and insisai oi— was gay on this morning. um and instead of that— was gay on this morning. um and instead of that being a joyous ani— instead of that being a joyous ani nappy— instead of that being a joyous and happy occasion , it felt and happy occasion, it felt rsaiiy— and happy occasion, it felt really traumatic . btec and really traumatic. btec and ainosi— really traumatic. btec and almost like—

really traumatic. btec and almost like a— really traumatic. btec and almost like a bereavement event. ani— almost like a bereavement event. ani i— almost like a bereavement event. ani i inink— almost like a bereavement event. and i think the— almost like a bereavement event. and i think the people that he snoaii— and i think the people that he snoaii nays— and i think the people that he should have had— and i think the people that he should have had in the studio wisn— should have had in the studio wiin nin— should have had in the studio with him was— should have had in the studio with him was his— should have had in the studio with him was his wife and two iaagiisrs— with him was his wife and two daughters. um,— with him was his wife and two daughters. um, i— with him was his wife and two daughters. um, i don't know wnsinsr— daughters. um, i don't know whether there _ daughters. um, i don't know whether there was something going— whether there was something going is— whether there was something going is is— whether there was something going to be exposed about him, waisn— going to be exposed about him, waisn is— going to be exposed about him, waisn is way— going to be exposed about him, which is why he— going to be exposed about him, which is why he felt he needed to which is why he felt he needed is is— which is why he felt he needed is is inai. — which is why he felt he needed to do that. but— which is why he felt he needed to do that. but i— which is why he felt he needed to do that. but i do think, um, ins— to do that. but i do think, um, ins saisiing— to do that. but i do think, um, the existing presenters, alison hammond— the existing presenters, alison wannoni. is— the existing presenters, alison hammond, is really great. um, i ion-i— hammond, is really great. um, i ion-i know— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how the— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how the situation is for don't know how the situation is ior woiiy— don't know how the situation is for holly willoughby. unfortunately, being so close to raini— unfortunately, being so close to raiiii .— unfortunately, being so close to raiiii . isoiis— unfortunately, being so close to philip , people speculate that philip, people speculate that inas— philip, people speculate that an sns— philip, people speculate that that she knows— philip, people speculate that that she knows a lot more than sis-s— that she knows a lot more than sns-s saying— that she knows a lot more than sns-s saying .— that she knows a lot more than she's saying . but— that she knows a lot more than she's saying . but but i that she knows a lot more than she's saying. but but i think ins— she's saying. but but i think is nosi— she's saying. but but i think the most important thing is when isoiis— the most important thing is when isoiis waisn — the most important thing is when people watch these programmes, insy— people watch these programmes, insy wani— people watch these programmes, insy wani is — people watch these programmes, they want to believe that the isoiis— they want to believe that the isoiis — they want to believe that the people are real.— they want to believe that the people are real. and when i've ever watched— people are real. and when i've ever watched this— people are real. and when i've ever watched this programme , ever watched this programme, is— ever watched this programme, is aiways— ever watched this programme, i've always felt— ever watched this programme, i've always felt that it is asai— i've always felt that it is rsai. iai— i've always felt that it is real. but then - i've always felt that it is real. but then you realise as wsii— real. but then you realise as well actually— real. but then you realise as well actually are— real. but then you realise as well actually are people being gsnains— well actually are people being gsnains ani— well actually are people being genuine and when are they being iakss— genuine and when are they being iakss an.— genuine and when are they being iakss an. in— genuine and when are they being fake? um, i'm sure— genuine and when are they being fake? um, i'm sure you're being isrissiiy— fake? um, i'm sure you're being perfectly genuine— fake? um, i'm sure you're being perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um

perfectly genuine tonight, mark. un ias.— perfectly genuine tonight, mark. win iai. iai— perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um but, but that's what people wani. — um but, but that's what people wani. insy— um but, but that's what people want. they want— um but, but that's what people want. they want honesty . and i want. they want honesty. and i inink— want. they want honesty. and i inink ii-s. — want. they want honesty. and i inink its. is— want. they want honesty. and i think it's. it's such— want. they want honesty. and i think it's. it's such a shame, rsaiiy— think it's. it's such a shame, rsaiiy. ii— think it's. it's such a shame, really. if philip— think it's. it's such a shame, really. if philip had have been sisa— really. if philip had have been oisn ani— really. if philip had have been open and honest— really. if philip had have been open and honest in the isginning— open and honest in the beginning, things may have not iask— beginning, things may have not iask io— beginning, things may have not come back to sort— beginning, things may have not come back to sort of, sort of naaai— come back to sort of, sort of naaai nin — come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in— come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in this- come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in this way, but, um , haunt him in this way, but, um, i haunt him in this way, but, um, iinink— haunt him in this way, but, um, iinink ins— haunt him in this way, but, um, i think the programme can saniws. — i think the programme can saniws. iai— i think the programme can survive. but i— i think the programme can survive. but i think there needs to survive. but i think there needs is is— survive. but i think there needs is is snangss— survive. but i think there needs to be changes to,— survive. but i think there needs to be changes to, to make it rsirssnsi— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and a— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and a new vibrant siari— refreshed and a new vibrant siari . — refreshed and a new vibrant siari . war.— refreshed and a new vibrant start . well, john,- refreshed and a new vibrant start. �*j.jaj»2;22 1212 refreshed and a new vibrant start . �*j.jaj»2;22 1212 start. well, john, let me tell you that i will always be straight and honest with my viewers and listeners. i messed up intro to the show up the intro to the show producer. greg's furious with me, let me tell you, yelling down my ear. last word to alan in grimsby . alan, briefly, if in grimsby. alan, briefly, if you can, what about holly willoughby ? do you believe her willoughby? do you believe her protestations that she knew nothing of this affair ? um , i nothing of this affair? um, i don't know a lot about- don't know a lot about the mark, but don't know a lot about the mark, iai io— don't know a lot about the mark, iai is is— don't know a lot about the mark, iai is is gaiis— don't know a lot about the mark, but to be quite honest, no , i but to be quite honest, no, i ion-i. — but to be quite honest, no, i ion-i. i— but to be quite honest, no, i don't. i don't— but to be quite honest, no, i don't. i don't think- but to be quite honest, no, i don't. »2»2»12 2 but to be quite honest, no, i don't. »2»12»12 2 12s: 22 don't. i don't think she could be that close to someone for all those years and not have a real insight into what was actually

going on. so that's for her to deal with. i think in the coming months. um i don't have a lot of time for either of them, to be quite honest, or for itv . well, quite honest, or for itv. well, there you go. well,— quite honest, or for itv. well, there you go. well, look- »2. 1 well, there you go. well, look , keep there you go. well, look, keep waisning— there you go. well, look, keep waisning si— there you go. well, look, keep watching gb news instead , alan. watching gb news instead, alan. and watching gb news instead, alan. ani oi— watching gb news instead, alan. ani oi soarss— watching gb news instead, alan. and of course, it's— watching gb news instead, alan. and of course, it's a wonderful isw— and of course, it's a wonderful isw iarnsr— and of course, it's a wonderful bev turner and— and of course, it's a wonderful bev turner and andrew pierce at iso— bev turner and andrew pierce at sso swsry— bev turner and andrew pierce at 930 every weekday— bev turner and andrew pierce at 930 every weekday morning, we got 930 every weekday morning, we goi ins— 930 every weekday morning, we got the results— 930 every weekday morning, we got the results of— 930 every weekday morning, we got the results of a people's poki— got the results of a people's ioii on— got the results of a people's row on mark— got the results of a people's poll on mark dolan tonight at is this poll on mark dolan tonight at is an a— poll on mark dolan tonight at is an a wiisn— poll on mark dolan tonight at is this a witch hunt— poll on mark dolan tonight at is this a witch hunt against raiiiii— this a witch hunt against phillip schofield? 26% say they yes .— phillip schofield? 26% say they yss . iai— phillip schofield? 26% say they yss . iai os— phillip schofield? 26% say they yes , but over 73%_ phillip schofield? 26% say they yes , but over 73% say no . now at yes, but over 73% say no. now at ten,— yes, but over 73% say no. now at isa. iii— yes, but over 73% say no. now at isa. in is— yes, but over 73% say no. now at ten, i'll be dealing— yes, but over 73% say no. now at ten, i'll be dealing with raiiiii— ten, i'll be dealing with phillip schofield. hopefully my iinai— phillip schofield. hopefully my final comments— phillip schofield. hopefully my final comments on this saga. but nssi— final comments on this saga. but nssi ara— final comments on this saga. but nssi an in— final comments on this saga. but nssi an in my— final comments on this saga. but nssi an in my iig— final comments on this saga. but next up, in my big opinion, i'll be next up, in my big opinion, i'll is isaiing— next up, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with— next up, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with woke nationwide and be dealing with woke nationwide ani iini— be dealing with woke nationwide ani iini sai— be dealing with woke nationwide and find out why— be dealing with woke nationwide and find out why after this

it's 9:00 on television. on iaiis— it's 9:00 on television. on raiio ani— it's 9:00 on television. on radio and online- it's 9:00 on television. on radio and online in the united kingion— radio and online in the united kingion ani— radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. rais— kingdom and across the world. inis is— kingdom and across the world. inis is mark— kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my iaks— this is mark dolan tonight in my iaks ai— this is mark dolan tonight in my iaks ai isa.— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, following his bombshell— take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun nswsiaisn— bombshell interview with the sun nswsiaisr. in— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper, i'm not— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper, i'm not buying philip ssnoiisii-s— newspaper, i'm not buying philip schofield's crocodile tears in my— schofield's crocodile tears in my big— schofield's crocodile tears in my big opiniona— schofield's crocodile tears in my big opinion, as nationwide aii— my big opinion, as nationwide aii insaii— my big opinion, as nationwide add insult female customers with insi— add insult female customers with insir iaissi— add insult female customers with their latest pride— add insult female customers with their latest pride video isaiaring— their latest pride video featuring a _ their latest pride video featuring a man dressed up as a . ris— featuring a man dressed up as a woman . it's time— featuring a man dressed up as a woman. it's time for featuring a man dressed up as a woman . it's time for woke woman. it's time for woke osianis— woman. it's time for woke osianis io— woman. it's time for woke companies to stay out of ioiiiiss— companies to stay out of politics and— companies to stay out of politics and my mark meets guest is a wno— politics and my mark meets guest is a man who has— politics and my mark meets guest is a man who has done just about swsryining— is a man who has done just about swsryining in— is a man who has done just about everything in broadcasting, iaiis— everything in broadcasting, raiio ani— everything in broadcasting, radio and tv— everything in broadcasting, radio and tv legend top of the pops— radio and tv legend top of the pops ,_ radio and tv legend top of the pops . yoa— radio and tv legend top of the pops . yoa nans— radio and tv legend top of the pops , you name it. radio one pops, you name it. radio one iiiks— pops, you name it. radio one iiiks ksii— pops, you name it. radio one iiiks issii .— mike reid. ani- mike reid. and at 10:00 i mike reid.- and at 10:00 i will mike reid.— and at 10:00 i will be iiiks ksii— and at 10:00 i will be dealing wisn— and at 10:00 i will be dealing wiin raiiiii— and at 10:00 i will be dealing with phillip schofield. you won-i— with phillip schofield. you won-i wani— with phillip schofield. you won't want to _ with phillip schofield. you won't want to miss it, but woke naiionwiis— won't want to miss it, but woke nationwide died— won't want to miss it, but woke nationwide died next after the nsaiiinss—

nationwide died next after the headlines with— nationwide died next after the headlines with bethany elsey . headlines with bethany elsey. mark.— headlines with bethany elsey. iiark. inank— headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you _ headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you . »2;2»2; 2 mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the newsroom boris johnson says he sent all unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry, bypassed the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an old phone that's locked due to security concerns . it has security concerns. it has discussions on it from before may 2021. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mr johnson's yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's messages over all mr johnson's messages and diaries . a 19 year old has and diaries. a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and became radicalised dunng islam and became radicalised during the covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother, who reported him to the prevent

counter—terrorism programme , counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the right thing . at least 50 people right thing. at least 50 people have been killed and 350 hospitalised after two passenger trains collided in india. the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were carried to ambulances . officials carried to ambulances. officials say the number of fatalities is expected to rise . 20 people have expected to rise. 20 people have now been arrested in relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans , who were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were pursued by police. cctv shows the boys on an electric bike being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in

the riots . phillip schofield the riots. phillip schofield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague. at this morning, the 61 year old resigned from itv last week after admitting to the affair and says he'll comply with an external review commissioned by the broadcaster schofield has hit out at what he described as relentless criticism and told the bbc he feels ashamed and sorry, but insists he didn't groom him . was a completely groom him. was a completely innossni— groom him. was a completely innocent backwards— g 12 was a completely innocent backwards and forwards a isrioi— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of time about a job.— over a period of time about a jobr aioai— over a period of time about a job, about careers— over a period of time about a job, about careers , you know, i job, about careers, you know, i yoa io— job, about careers, you know, i mean, you do that— job, about careers, you know, i mean, you do that . what's what's mean, you do that. what's what's wrong— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong wisn— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong wiin inas— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that ?_ mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that ? what was unwise wrong with that? what was unwise was wrong with that? what was unwise ins — wrong with that? what was unwise ins iasi— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it happened ani— was the fact that it happened ani inas— was the fact that it happened and that was— was the fact that it happened and that was a— was the fact that it happened and that was a very, very grave wow. ii— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was consensual, iai— error. now, it was consensual, iai ii— error. now, it was consensual, iai is was— error. now, it was consensual, iai ii ny— error. now, it was consensual, but it was my fault . and more but it was my fault. and more iisraiiion— but it was my fault. and more disruption for— but it was my fault. and more disruption for holidaymakers as sssariiy— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at heathrow airiori— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike asiion. — airport announce further strike asiion. iiis—

airport announce further strike action. this summer. - airport announce further strike action. 12 12.2 action. this summer. unite the union says its members will stage 33 days of industrial action in a dispute over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from mid—june to the end of august last year, up to date on tv onune last year, up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in this is gb news. now it's back to . to. marki i thanks, is. iiark— . thanks, bethany. is. mark— . thanks, bethany. welcome is. mark— - thanks, bethany. welcome to thanks, bethany. welcome to mark . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark ioian— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight.— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion.— mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion. as— mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, as nationwide insult isnais— opinion, as nationwide insult female customers with their iaissi— female customers with their latest pride _ female customers with their latest pride video featuring a irssssi— latest pride video featuring a man dressed up— latest pride video featuring a man dressed up as a woman, it's rins— man dressed up as a woman, it's iins ior— man dressed up as a woman, it's iins ior woks— man dressed up as a woman, it's time for woke companies to stay out time for woke companies to stay sai oi— time for woke companies to stay oar oi ioiiiiss. — time for woke companies to stay out of politics. in— time for woke companies to stay out of politics. in the big siory— out of politics. in the big siory .— out of politics. in the big siory . as— out of politics. in the big story , as keir— out of politics. in the big story , as keir starmer says, he story, as keir starmer says, he wiri— story, as keir starmer says, he wiii noi— story, as keir starmer says, he will not explore— story, as keir starmer says, he will not explore the future gas ani— will not explore the future gas ani oii— will not explore the future gas and oil licences. _ will not explore the future gas and oil licences. i'm asking is siinais— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change a— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change a scam ? my mark climate change a scam? my mark assis— climate change a scam? my mark nssis gassi— climate change a scam? my mark nssis gassi is— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest is a— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest is a man who's done iasi— meets guest is a man who's done iasi aioai— meets guest is a man who's done just about everything in broadcasting, radio and tv isgsni— broadcasting, radio and tv isgsni iiiks— broadcasting, radio and tv legend mike reid . top of the

legend mike reid. top of the pops— legend mike reid. top of the pops kaiio— legend mike reid. top of the pops radio one.— legend mike reid. top of the pops radio one. he's done it all in my— pops radio one. he's done it all in my iaks— pops radio one. he's done it all in my iaks ai— pops radio one. he's done it all in my take at ten,— pops radio one. he's done it all in my take at ten, following his ionisnsii— in my take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun nswsiaisr— bombshell interview with the sun nswsiaisr ani— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i'm not iaying— newspaper and the bbc. i'm not iaying raiiiii— newspaper and the bbc. i'm not buying phillip schofield crocodile _ buying phillip schofield crocodile tears. my reaction to rais— crocodile tears. my reaction to an saga— crocodile tears. my reaction to this saga after— crocodile tears. my reaction to this saga after ten on tonight's nsrnaks is— this saga after ten on tonight's newsmaker is the— this saga after ten on tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv siar— newsmaker is the fearless tv siar kin— newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn , who'll be star kim woodburn, who'll be droppin9_ star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping sons— star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping some more truth bombs aioai— dropping some more truth bombs aioai ins— dropping some more truth bombs about the scofield_ dropping some more truth bombs about the scofield situation . about the scofield situation. iiark— about the scofield situation. iiark ioian— about the scofield situation. mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home oi ins— mark dolan tonight is the home oi ins iaisrs— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's ironi— of the papers with tomorrow's ironi iagss— of the papers with tomorrow's ironi iagss ai— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 snai— front pages at exactly 1030 snari wisn— front pages at exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who nawsn-i— sharp with three top pundits who nawsn-i issn— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say ani— haven't been told what to say ani wno— haven't been told what to say and who most— haven't been told what to say and who most certainly don't ioiiow— and who most certainly don't ioiiow ins— and who most certainly don't follow the script— and who most certainly don't follow the script . this show's follow the script. this show's asai— follow the script. this show's rsai. ii-s— follow the script. this show's real. it's uncensored. it's ansansssii— real. it's uncensored. it's uncanceled. it's wild. and nsiiing— uncanceled. it's wild. and nsiiing ns— uncanceled. it's wild. and helping me deliver a lively and iansny— helping me deliver a lively and iansny snow— helping me deliver a lively and punchy show tonight. lisa iisksnzis— punchy show tonight. lisa iisksnzis .— punchy show tonight. lisa mckenzie , lizzie zita and mike mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike parry— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike rarry .— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike iiarry . ionigni— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike parry. tonight i'll be asking ins— parry. tonight i'll be asking is punditsr_ parry. tonight i'll be asking the pundits, is— parry. tonight i'll be asking the pundits, is it the fire ssniss-s— the pundits, is it the fire service's job— the pundits, is it the fire service's job to move obese isoiiss— service's job to move obese people? should— service's job to move obese people? should people be fined for people? should people be fined ior issiing— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks? and given

inas— for feeding ducks? and given an insy— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak out for so many snsaky— that they sneak out for so many snsaky siggiss— that they sneak out for so many snsaky siggiss .— that they sneak out for so many snsaky siggiss . i— that they sneak out for so many sneaky ciggies , i should say, sneaky ciggies, i should say, giwsn— sneaky ciggies, i should say, giwsn insy— sneaky ciggies, i should say, given they sneak out for sigarsiis— given they sneak out for cigarette breaks? should smokers be cigarette breaks? should smokers is iorssi— cigarette breaks? should smokers is iorssi io— cigarette breaks? should smokers be forced to work— cigarette breaks? should smokers be forced to work overtime? ws-ii— be forced to work overtime? we'll debate— be forced to work overtime? we'll debate all— be forced to work overtime? we'll debate all of that with my ianiiis— we'll debate all of that with my ianiiis snowy.— we'll debate all of that with my pundits shortly. plus, your snaiis— pundits shortly. plus, your emails, especially spicy emails, especially the spicy iiark— emails, especially the spicy ones. mark gb— emails, especially the spicy ones. mark gb news .com . this ones. mark gb news .com. this progranns— ones. mark gb news .com. this progranns nas— ones. mark gb news .com. this progranns aas a— ones. mark gb news .com. this programme has a golden rule . we programme has a golden rule. we ion-i— programme has a golden rule. we ions is— programme has a golden rule. we ion-i is ising.— programme has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my wisn— don't do boring. not on my waisn. i— don't do boring. not on my waisn. irasi— don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it . so watch. i just won't have it. so a iasy— watch. i just won't have it. so a iasy swo— watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours— watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours to come. ssnoiisii— a busy two hours to come. schofield at— a busy two hours to come. schofield at ten. but first my big schofield at ten. but first my iig opinion— schofield at ten. but first my iig oiinion .— schofield at ten. but first my big opinion . here we go big opinion. here we go again. yet big opinion. here we go again. vsi anoinsr— big opinion. here we go again. yet another company this time naiionwiis— yet another company this time nationwide going— yet another company this time nationwide going down the woke raiiii— nationwide going down the woke raiiii nois— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with a— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with a bizarre video isaiaring— rabbit hole with a bizarre video isaiaring ons— rabbit hole with a bizarre video featuring one of— rabbit hole with a bizarre video featuring one of their bank worsrsk— featuring one of their bank workers parading in drag . this workers parading in drag. this is aii— workers parading in drag. this is aii io— workers parading in drag. this is all to celebrate the month iong— is all to celebrate the month iong iaiis— is all to celebrate the month long pride festival . all and are long pride festival. all and are we long pride festival. all and are ws ins— long pride festival. all and are ws ins iirsi— long pride festival. all and are we the first to— long pride festival. all and are we the first to celebrate the snoisss— we the first to celebrate the choices that— we the first to celebrate the choices that anyone has made in iiiss— choices that anyone has made in iiiss wno— choices that anyone has made in iiiss was insy— choices that anyone has made in life? who they choose to fall in iows — life? who they choose to fall in iows wisn— life? who they choose to fall in love with, how— life? who they choose to fall in love with, how they identify by

ossi— love with, how they identify by sooi iask— love with, how they identify by sooi iask io— love with, how they identify by good luck to you. _ love with, how they identify by good luck to you. it's a wonderful— good luck to you. it's a wonderful thing. it's a free soaniry— wonderful thing. it's a free soaniry .— wonderful thing. it's a free soaniry . iai— wonderful thing. it's a free country . but what i don't enjoy country. but what i don't enjoy is ins— country. but what i don't enjoy is the broader— country. but what i don't enjoy is the broader messaging from the is the broader messaging from is iikss— is the broader messaging from is iikss oi— is the broader messaging from the likes of nationwide. if they ion-i— the likes of nationwide. if they ion-i know— the likes of nationwide. if they don't know the _ the likes of nationwide. if they don't know the implications of ianiiy— don't know the implications of blindly backing— don't know the implications of blindly backing these campaigns. iasy-rs— blindly backing these campaigns. iasy-rs siaoii— blindly backing these campaigns. they're stupid. and if they do know— they're stupid. and if they do know yoa.— they're stupid. and if they do know you, then— they're stupid. and if they do know you, then they are frankly sinisisr— know you, then they are frankly sinisisr ior— know you, then they are frankly sinister for because what's naiisning— sinister for because what's happening here is a war on the wsry— happening here is a war on the wsry iisa— happening here is a war on the wsry iisa oi— happening here is a war on the very idea of gender itself with asissis— very idea of gender itself with asissis oi— very idea of gender itself with aspects of the _ very idea of gender itself with aspects of the pride movement ani— aspects of the pride movement ani inas— aspects of the pride movement and that divisive— aspects of the pride movement and that divisive rainbow flag waisn— and that divisive rainbow flag waisn many— and that divisive rainbow flag waisn nany gay— and that divisive rainbow flag which many gay people feel does not which many gay people feel does noi rsirsssni— which many gay people feel does not represent them _ which many gay people feel does not represent them , supports the not represent them, supports the iisa— not represent them, supports the iisa inas— not represent them, supports the iisa inai yoa— not represent them, supports the idea that you can— not represent them, supports the idea that you can literally snangs— idea that you can literally snangs yoar— idea that you can literally change your biological sex, that a man is a woman,— change your biological sex, that a man is a woman, that a woman is a— a man is a woman, that a woman is a ris— a man is a woman, that a woman is a its an— a man is a woman, that a woman is a man. it's an ideology which rsirs— is a man. it's an ideology which isiis iiiiis— is a man. it's an ideology which tells little boys— is a man. it's an ideology which tells little boys and little gins— tells little boys and little giris ai— tells little boys and little girls at school— tells little boys and little girls at school that they can nooss— girls at school that they can choose their— girls at school that they can choose their own— girls at school that they can choose their own pronouns and inas— choose their own pronouns and iii insy— choose their own pronouns and ran iasy nay— choose their own pronouns and that they may be _ choose their own pronouns and that they may be trapped in the wrong— that they may be trapped in the wrong ioiy— that they may be trapped in the wrong ioiy .— that they may be trapped in the wrong ioiy . way— that they may be trapped in the wrong body . why do nationwide wrong body. why do nationwide sank— wrong body. why do nationwide iank wani— wrong body. why do nationwide iank wani io— wrong body. why do nationwide bank want to endorse that nsssasg ani— bank want to endorse that message, and how do their

customers feel— message, and how do their customers feel about that message, especially female sasoinsrs— message, especially female customers? quick reminder that is iaii— customers? quick reminder that is naii oi— customers? quick reminder that is naii oi ins— customers? quick reminder that is half of the population female customers who— is half of the population female customers who feel cancelled by so—saiisi — customers who feel cancelled by so—called trans— customers who feel cancelled by so—called trans ideology and who are increasingly— so—called trans ideology and who are increasingly losing their isnais— are increasingly losing their isnais oniy— are increasingly losing their female only spaces ladies ioiisis— female only spaces ladies toilets, women's dressing rooms, even women's prisons and rape srisis— even women's prisons and rape srisis ssnss— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers are— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers are no longer ins— crisis centre ers are no longer is ssasiis— crisis centre ers are no longer the exclusive domain of iioiogisai— the exclusive domain of biological females , as women are biological females, as women are rigniiy— biological females, as women are rigniiy angry— biological females, as women are rightly angry about_ biological females, as women are rightly angry about that as they are rightly angry about that as they aioai— rightly angry about that as they are about being— rightly angry about that as they are about being called people wisn— are about being called people with ovaries. _ are about being called people with ovaries. cis_ are about being called people with ovaries. cis women, humans wisn— with ovaries. cis women, humans win a— with ovaries. cis women, humans win a ssnix— with ovaries. cis women, humans win a ssnix or— with ovaries. cis women, humans with a cervix or even chest issisrs— with a cervix or even chest issisrs .— with a cervix or even chest issisrs . a— with a cervix or even chest feeders . a nationwide happy to feeders. a nationwide happy to snoirss— feeders. a nationwide happy to snoirss rais— feeders. a nationwide happy to endorse this erasing of women. do endorse this erasing of women. is ssn— endorse this erasing of women. is noi— endorse this erasing of women. do women not have bank accounts and do women not have bank accounts ani isans— do women not have bank accounts ani isans ani— do women not have bank accounts and loans and mortgages? well, i inink— and loans and mortgages? well, i inink ins— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes of— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes of nationwide are think the likes of nationwide nongaging— think the likes of nationwide are mortgaging their own future wiri— are mortgaging their own future wiin anis— are mortgaging their own future with this divisive— are mortgaging their own future with this divisive woke nonsense . wnai— with this divisive woke nonsense . wnai is— with this divisive woke nonsense . wnai is i— with this divisive woke nonsense . what is it their— with this divisive woke nonsense . what is it their business gsiiing— . what is it their business

getting involved in these saiiarai— getting involved in these cultural matters, their job is to cultural matters, their job is is isas— cultural matters, their job is to lend money— cultural matters, their job is to lend money to people all at grsai— to lend money to people all at grsai issnss— to lend money to people all at great expense to— to lend money to people all at great expense to us and gsnsraiing— great expense to us and generating great wealth for them . siay— generating great wealth for them . siay in— generating great wealth for them . siay in yoar— generating great wealth for them . stay in your lane,— generating great wealth for them . stay in your lane, chaps or is it . stay in your lane, chaps or is i snaps— . stay in your lane, chaps or is i snais or— . stay in your lane, chaps or is it chaps or they— . stay in your lane, chaps or is it chaps or they chaps them? who knows— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows s— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows s ris— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like our— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like our police knows? it's like our police oiiissrs— knows? it's like our police officers dancing and wearing iiags— officers dancing and wearing iiags ai— officers dancing and wearing flags at pride— officers dancing and wearing flags at pride marches. it's not insi— flags at pride marches. it's not insir ioi— flags at pride marches. it's not insir isi io— flags at pride marches. it's not theirjob to make— flags at pride marches. it's not theirjob to make the flags at pride marches. it's not their job to make the world a isiisr— their job to make the world a isiisr .— their job to make the world a better , fluffier_ their job to make the world a better , fluffier place. they're better, fluffier place. they're ins— better, fluffier place. they're ins ioiiss. — better, fluffier place. they're the police. it's— better, fluffier place. they're the police. it's their job to naks— the police. it's their job to naks ins— the police. it's their job to make the world- the police. it's their job to make the world a safer place . make the world a safer place. iai— make the world a safer place. iai insy— make the world a safer place. iai iasy sss— make the world a safer place. but they seem to— make the world a safer place. but they seem to have forgotten inas— but they seem to have forgotten inai. wnai— but they seem to have forgotten that. what about— but they seem to have forgotten that. what about the drinks sonianys— that. what about the drinks company? innocent. this week insy— company? innocent. this week insy naks— company? innocent. this week they make smoothies, of course . they make smoothies, of course. they— they make smoothies, of course. insy siain — they make smoothies, of course. iasy siain io— they make smoothies, of course. they claim to be— they make smoothies, of course. they claim to be ultra woke , they claim to be ultra woke, inoagn— they claim to be ultra woke, even though they are 90% owned by even though they are 90% owned iy ins — even though they are 90% owned iy ins sioiai— even though they are 90% owned by the global corporate giant sssa— by the global corporate giant sssa ssia— by the global corporate giant sosa soia .— by the global corporate giant coca cola . how— by the global corporate giant coca cola . how does that square coca cola. how does that square 7 coca cola. how does that square s insy— coca cola. how does that square s iasy iai— coca cola. how does that square s iasy iai oai— coca cola. how does that square sinsy iai oai a— coca cola. how does that square ? they put out a series of iwssis— ? they put out a series of tweets this— ? they put out a series of tweets this week. innocent iasisaiiy— tweets this week. innocent iasisaiiy an— tweets this week. innocent basically an orwellian language gaiis— basically an orwellian language gaiis aiwising— basically an orwellian language guide advising customers what worss— guide advising customers what woris ws— guide advising customers what words we can and— guide advising customers what words we can and cannot use in rsiaiion— words we can and cannot use in rsiaiion io— words we can and cannot use in relation to those— words we can and cannot use in relation to those who transition inis— relation to those who transition ii is— relation to those who transition ii is a— relation to those who transition this is a smoothie— relation to those who transition

this is a smoothie company isaiing— this is a smoothie company isaiing as— this is a smoothie company beating us into— this is a smoothie company beating us into a pulp with all of beating us into a pulp with all oi insi— beating us into a pulp with all oi insir rs— beating us into a pulp with all of their pc nonsense . but of their pc nonsense. but iizarrsiy— of their pc nonsense. but bizarrely, they— of their pc nonsense. but bizarrely, they referred to the iisrnaii— bizarrely, they referred to the mermaid charity— bizarrely, they referred to the mermaid charity as legends, even inoagn— mermaid charity as legends, even inoagn inis— mermaid charity as legends, even though this highly— mermaid charity as legends, even though this highly controversial organisaiion— though this highly controversial organisation was— though this highly controversial organisation was exposed by the isisgrain— organisation was exposed by the isisgrain iasi— organisation was exposed by the telegraph last year for sending snssi— telegraph last year for sending chest flattening— telegraph last year for sending chest flattening devices to issnags — chest flattening devices to issnags gins— chest flattening devices to teenage girls without parental knowisigs— teenage girls without parental knowisigs .— teenage girls without parental knowledge . and— teenage girls without parental knowledge . and it's a charity knowledge. and it's a charity wnisn— knowledge. and it's a charity which encourages the prescribing of which encourages the prescribing oi iaisriy— which encourages the prescribing of puberty blockers. this is medication— of puberty blockers. this is medication to— of puberty blockers. this is medication to stop puberty for young— medication to stop puberty for young pimple— medication to stop puberty for young people .— medication to stop puberty for young people , innocent young people, innocent smoothies. _ young people, innocent smoothies. there with a not so innossni— smoothies. there with a not so innocent message— smoothies. there with a not so innocent message . well, they innocent message. well, they wsni— innocent message. well, they wsni on— innocent message. well, they wsni on is— innocent message. well, they wsni on is say.— innocent message. well, they went on to say, we're always iooking— went on to say, we're always iooking ior— went on to say, we're always looking for ways— went on to say, we're always looking for ways to be more insiasiws— looking for ways to be more insiasiws .— looking for ways to be more inclusive . so— looking for ways to be more inclusive . so we- looking for ways to be more inclusive . so we asked mermaids inclusive. so we asked mermaids to inclusive. so we asked mermaids is isasn— inclusive. so we asked mermaids is isasn as— inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teach us what's— inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teach us what's okay to say . to teach us what's okay to say. wsisons — to teach us what's okay to say. wsisons is — to teach us what's okay to say. welcome to hell.— to teach us what's okay to say. welcome to hell. and here's how iarnsiis— welcome to hell. and here's how iarnsiis insss— welcome to hell. and here's how pathetic these companies are . pathetic these companies are. innossni— pathetic these companies are. innocent have— pathetic these companies are. innocent have now deleted the iwssis— innocent have now deleted the iwssis aiisr— innocent have now deleted the tweets after an _ innocent have now deleted the tweets after an enormous public iaskiasn— tweets after an enormous public backlash demonstrating that insss— backlash demonstrating that these corporations have no norais— these corporations have no

morals, no ethics, and no iaskions— morals, no ethics, and no iaskions .— morals, no ethics, and no backbone . it's- morals, no ethics, and no backbone . it's all virtue backbone. it's all virtue signaiiing— backbone. it's all virtue signalling. it's all fake, it's all signalling. it's all fake, it's aii irsisni— signalling. it's all fake, it's aii irsisni .— signalling. it's all fake, it's all pretend . they couldn't care all pretend. they couldn't care isss— all pretend. they couldn't care isss aioai— all pretend. they couldn't care less about your— all pretend. they couldn't care less about your human rights. insy-rs— less about your human rights. iasy-rs iasi— less about your human rights. they're just trying to sell more of they're just trying to sell more oi insi— they're just trying to sell more oi insir sagar— they're just trying to sell more of their sugar laden products. yes:— of their sugar laden products. wss. i— of their sugar laden products. wss. i know. — of their sugar laden products. yes, i know. they're their fruit snooiiiss— yes, i know. they're their fruit smoothies, but— yes, i know. they're their fruit smoothies, but fructose is siissiiwsiy— smoothies, but fructose is effectively the _ smoothies, but fructose is effectively the same thing . let effectively the same thing. let me effectively the same thing. let ns isi— effectively the same thing. let ns isii yoa— effectively the same thing. let me tell you this— effectively the same thing. let me tell you this is hot on the nssks— me tell you this is hot on the nssis oi— me tell you this is hot on the heels of ben— me tell you this is hot on the heels of ben jerry's ice cream mg. .— heels of ben jerry's ice cream . iisiarss— heels of ben jerry's ice cream man , pictures of— heels of ben jerry's ice cream man , pictures of a sickly man, pictures of a sickly saioriiis— man, pictures of a sickly calorific slurry- man, pictures of a sickly calorific slurry that makes our kiss— calorific slurry that makes our kiis iai.— calorific slurry that makes our kids fat, lecturing the home sssrsiary— kids fat, lecturing the home sssrsiary on— kids fat, lecturing the home secretary on britain's immigration policy or how about aaiiiax— immigration policy or how about halifax telling— immigration policy or how about halifax telling one of their customers that— halifax telling one of their customers that if they don't iiks— customers that if they don't iiks insi— customers that if they don't like their employees pronoun iaigss— like their employees pronoun badges, which— like their employees pronoun badges, which are if you think aioai— badges, which are if you think aioai n,— badges, which are if you think about it, effectively compelled sisssn— about it, effectively compelled sisssn .— about it, effectively compelled sisssn . insy— about it, effectively compelled speech , they can— about it, effectively compelled speech , they can get an account speech, they can get an account somewhere else. _ speech, they can get an account somewhere else. charming well, as we've seen with— somewhere else. charming well, as we've seen with bud light, wno— as we've seen with bud light, wno wsni— as we've seen with bud light, who went woke— as we've seen with bud light, who went woke by employing a ians— who went woke by employing a trans woman who _ who went woke by employing a trans woman who mocked actual or us— trans woman who mocked actual women or us retail— trans woman who mocked actual women or us retail giant targets wno— women or us retail giant targets wno nays— women or us retail giant targets wno naws issn— women or us retail giant targets who have been making swimsuits for who have been making swimsuits ior kiis— who have been making swimsuits ior kiis inai— who have been making swimsuits for kids that you— who have been making swimsuits for kids that you can tuck your inro—

for kids that you can tuck your inio ins— for kids that you can tuck your into the expression go woke, go iroks— into the expression go woke, go iroks nas— into the expression go woke, go broke has never— into the expression go woke, go broke has never been truer. they nays— broke has never been truer. they naws issi— broke has never been truer. they have lost billions— broke has never been truer. they have lost billions and i soaiin-i— have lost billions and i couldn't be— have lost billions and i couldn't be happier. the public wiii— couldn't be happier. the public wiii iaks— couldn't be happier. the public will take their— couldn't be happier. the public will take their business elsewhere _ will take their business elsewhere and these corporations will eventually— elsewhere and these corporations will eventually learn their issson — will eventually learn their lesson. people— will eventually learn their lesson. people are sick to the iask— lesson. people are sick to the iask isssn— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of this— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of this woke crap and the back teeth of this woke crap and is iikss— back teeth of this woke crap and is iikss oi— back teeth of this woke crap and the likes of nationwide are nasisning— the likes of nationwide are hastening their— the likes of nationwide are hastening their own demise. if insy— hastening their own demise. if iasy isrsisi— hastening their own demise. if they persist with— hastening their own demise. if they persist with it. what a isas— they persist with it. what a ioai oi— they persist with it. what a load of bankers— they persist with it. what a load of bankers . load of bankers. okay.- load of bankers. okay, folks, what's your rsasiions— okay, folks, what's your reaction? mark at gb news .uk ins— reaction? mark at gb news .uk ins iikss— reaction? mark at gb news .uk ins iikss oi— reaction? mark at gb news .uk the likes of innocent would argas— the likes of innocent would argas inai— the likes of innocent would argue that they— the likes of innocent would argue that they simply want to ssasi— argue that they simply want to create an inclusive world. they woaii— create an inclusive world. they woaii argas— create an inclusive world. they would argue that— create an inclusive world. they would argue that they've got inoasanis— would argue that they've got thousands of— would argue that they've got thousands of customers, some are inns— thousands of customers, some are inns insy— thousands of customers, some are trans. they would _ thousands of customers, some are trans. they would argue that inns— trans. they would argue that inns nsonis— trans. they would argue that trans people are— trans. they would argue that trans people are among the most wisiinissi— trans people are among the most wisiinissi in— trans people are among the most victimised in our— trans people are among the most victimised in our society. trans people are among the most victimised in our society . all victimised in our society. all insy— victimised in our society. all insy wani— victimised in our society. all iasy wani is— victimised in our society. all they want is equality for all, insy— they want is equality for all, iasy woaii— they want is equality for all, they would argue not my view ,

they would argue not my view, but they would argue not my view, iai wnai-s— they would argue not my view, but what's yours?— they would argue not my view, but what's yours? mark gb news . ksasiing— but what's yours? mark gb news .com . reacting to— but what's yours? mark gb news .com . reacting to my big opinion .com. reacting to my big opinion - my— .com. reacting to my big opinion . iiy ioi— .com. reacting to my big opinion . iiy ion naniiis— .com. reacting to my big opinion . my top pundits tonight author and academic— . my top pundits tonight author and academic dr.— . my top pundits tonight author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie , and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, ioarnaiisi— and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, roarnaiisi ani— and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator iizzis— journalist and commentator lizzie zaetta_ journalist and commentator lizzie zaetta and radio and tv iroaisasisr— lizzie zaetta and radio and tv broadcaster fleet— lizzie zaetta and radio and tv broadcaster fleet street legend. isi-s— broadcaster fleet street legend. isi-s is — broadcaster fleet street legend. let's be honest,— broadcaster fleet street legend. let's be honest, let's have it iigni— let's be honest, let's have it rigni .— let's be honest, let's have it rigni . iiiks— let's be honest, let's have it right, mike porky let's be honest, let's have it right , mike porky parry folks, right, mike porky parry folks, isi-s— right, mike porky parry folks, isi-s gsi— right, mike porky parry folks, isi-s gsi oa— right, mike porky parry folks, let's get our teeth straight inro— let's get our teeth straight inio inis. — let's get our teeth straight into this. lizzie— let's get our teeth straight into this. lizzie zita, your rsasiion— into this. lizzie zita, your reaction to _ into this. lizzie zita, your reaction to nationwide's latest nronoiionai— reaction to nationwide's latest promotional video? well, i soaiin-i— promotional video? well, i couldn't help— promotional video? well, i couldn't help thinking, look, i workss— couldn't help thinking, look, i worksi in— couldn't help thinking, look, i worked in fashion and advertising- worked in fashion and advertising for quite a long iins. — advertising for quite a long iins. inis— advertising for quite a long time. this was— advertising for quite a long time. 12 2 advertising for quite a long time. 12 time. this was this idea idea. and this concept was made possibly about a year to eight months ago. and then it all starts everything gets passed off until we see what we saw today. off until we see what we saw today . and i'm afraid that today. and i'm afraid that a pubuc today. and i'm afraid that a public opinion is really turned against this nonsense. look, i'm against this nonsense. look, i'm a woman . it's taken us 5000 odd a woman. it's taken us 5000 odd years to get to this point where we're not even equal and people are coming into our spaces . i are coming into our spaces. i went to the hammersmith. i was telling my lovely friend lisa here that i went to hammersmith

lyric theatre, went to the loo, the male and female unisex toilets walked in urinals all the way down one side you had to walk past them to get to the and that would be blokes with their willies out. well yeah and i've got willies out. well yeah and i've goi io— willies out. well yeah and i've goi is iaks— willies out. well yeah and i've goi io iaks ny— willies out. well yeah and i've got to take my if— 22 well yeah and i've got to take my if taking a child in insrs— got to take my if taking a child in insrs yoa— got to take my if taking a child in there you cannot do it the woris-s— in there you cannot do it the worms gsns— in there you cannot do it the world's gone nuts everybody. wss— world's gone nuts everybody. wss ws— world's gone nuts everybody. yes we nssi— world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to _ world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to respect- world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to respect everybody but we need spaces between us. we need to be together with spaces between us. i just think the world has gone crazy and they need to concentrate on getting people to answer the phone the money, not phone to manage the money, not getting into this whole political business. it's absolute nonsense. and it also that whole big trans look . i that whole big trans look. i mean, i know it's a great big laugh and we laugh about it, etcetera, but it does ridicule women. it does . no, we don't women. it does. no, we don't because gay men and women do not look like that. they look like us. they look like me. they look like you. they don't have to exaggerate it. or great big

boobs , loads of makeup, loads of boobs, loads of makeup, loads of hair. it's like a parody. it's absolutely . it's not right. lisa absolutely. it's not right. lisa innocent and nationwide would argue that they are bravely fighting transphobia, which is now taking root in our society. they're doing the right thing. i inink— they're doing the right thing. i inink nsonis— they're doing the right thing. i think people can— they're doing the right thing. i think people can see through inis. — think people can see through inis. i— think people can see through this. i mean,— think people can see through this. i mean, i— think people can see through this. i mean, i have- think people can see through this. 12 think people can see through this. i mean, i have no problem at all with , uh, you know, i saw at all with, uh, you know, i saw the nationwide advert . you know, the nationwide advert. you know, it looks like they're cashing in on the rupaul's drag race. that's what that looks like to me. rupaul's drag race has been so successful . it's a brilliant so successful. it's a brilliant show. yeah. which is so successful world. successful all over the world. and cashing in on and people are cashing in on that. they're going, oh, you know, you know? know, draghi is money. you know? so i think that's what it is. but i think people now can see that these big companies, i mean, coca cola , the coca cola mean, coca cola, the coca cola owned innocent, an innocent pretending to be this. yeah. yeah. and it's disingenuous. one of the biggest polluters in the one of the biggest polluters in is woris.— one of the biggest polluters in the world, coca— one of the biggest polluters in the world, coca cola. ' 12»2 2

the world, coca cola. and it's disingenuous, you know, and i think whenever they try and sort of stray these big multi national companies start to stray into politics and activism, what it's doing , it's activism, what it's doing, it's actually removing the politics and the activism out of the genuine gripes. well, mike, perhaps they've judged that the pubuc perhaps they've judged that the public love these campaigns. i l, public love these campaigns. i i, i tried to look up the figures and the most accurate one ican figures and the most accurate one i can get is that the trans community, not just in this country, but worldwide, is nought point 2% of the population. so nought point 2% of the population . so why on earth is population. so why on earth is so nasn— population. so why on earth is so nasn ins.— population. so why on earth is so much time, trouble,- »2»12 so why on earth is so much time, trouble, effort, nonsy— so much time, trouble, effort, nonsy ani— so much time, trouble, effort, money and persuasion put into to iaying— money and persuasion put into to irying io— money and persuasion put into to trying to accommodate and help the trying to accommodate and help is issiings— trying to accommodate and help the feelings of— trying to accommodate and help the feelings of 0.2% of the nonaiaiion— the feelings of 0.2% of the population everton fans than insrs— population everton fans than insrs ars— population everton fans than there are trans— population everton fans than there are trans people in there are there are trans people in there insiaiing— there are trans people in there are including your good self. insrs— are including your good self. insrs ars— are including your good self. there are absolutely now i'm not for there are absolutely now i'm not ior a— there are absolutely now i'm not ior a ssai— there are absolutely now i'm not for a moment saying that we snoaii— for a moment saying that we should ignore— for a moment saying that we should ignore trans and all inas— should ignore trans and all was insss— should ignore trans and all that. these people have an issue in kiis.— that. these people have an issue in is. insy— that. these people have an issue in life. they need— that. these people have an issue in life. they need recognition

asiion— in life. they need recognition asiion. insy— in life. they need recognition action. they they— in life. they need recognition action. they they want to be irsaisi — action. they they want to be treated fairly.— action. they they want to be treated fairly. and we all rssissi— treated fairly. and we all respect that. _ treated fairly. and we all respect that. but the amount of issaasion— respect that. but the amount of nssaasion insy— respect that. but the amount of persuasion they now exercise in sosisiy— persuasion they now exercise in sosisiy is— persuasion they now exercise in society is utterly— persuasion they now exercise in society is utterly ludicrous. ior— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance ,_ society is utterly ludicrous. for instance , i— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance , i would say they for instance, i would say they get— for instance, i would say they gsi ins— for instance, i would say they gsi ins iron— for instance, i would say they gsi ins iron on— for instance, i would say they get the drop on terms of time ani— get the drop on terms of time and attention— get the drop on terms of time and attention and money and iniiasnss— and attention and money and influence over— and attention and money and influence over people who've got cancer and a lot— influence over people who've got cancer and a lot more people in sosisiy— cancer and a lot more people in sosisiy nays— cancer and a lot more people in our society have got cancer than our society have got cancer than our trans would— our society have got cancer than our trans would you say, though, inai— our trans would you say, though, inai nsrnais— our trans would you say, though, that perhaps it's— our trans would you say, though, that perhaps it's not it's not inns— that perhaps it's not it's not inns nsonis— that perhaps it's not it's not trans people who are doing this. it's trans people who are doing this. is noi— trans people who are doing this. is nsi inns— trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people— trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people who- trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people who are pushing this, is it? well they are influencing it, aren't they ? well, it's a bit like the iaioar— ? well, it's a bit like the labour party— 7’ well, it's a bit like the labour party and it's an sxirsnisi— labour party and it's an extremist rump. yeah. who are isaiing— extremist rump. yeah. who are isaiing ins— extremist rump. yeah. who are leading the conversation. i also iiink— leading the conversation. i also iiink iii— leading the conversation. i also iiink is i— leading the conversation. i also think it's i also— leading the conversation. i also think it's i also think it's very fashionable and think very fashionable and i think it's fashionable young it's very fashionable for young people politics in people to show their politics in a particular way. and i've got to say, i work in a university and on university campuses and usually the more sort of wealthy russell group campuses, this sort of stuff is very fashionable. it's kind of the new what did it used to be?

palestine it used to be or, or south africa. and it's kind of a new the poster of che guevara. yeah, i think it is anywhere where there is trouble. you've got the extreme left- you've got the extreme left stirring ani— got the extreme left stirring ani siirring— got the extreme left stirring and stirring and they're they're all and stirring and they're they're aii ins— and stirring and they're they're aii ins ins.— and stirring and they're they're all the time. i— and stirring and they're they're all the time. i loathe them snaning— all the time. i loathe them snaning ins— all the time. i loathe them shaping the national conversation because people have a gsnains— conversation because people have a gsnains .— conversation because people have agsnains . an— conversation because people have a genuine , an argument to make. a genuine, an argument to make. they— a genuine, an argument to make. insy nays— a genuine, an argument to make. insy naws a— a genuine, an argument to make. they have a genuine point to naks— they have a genuine point to naks ani— they have a genuine point to naks ani yoa— they have a genuine point to make and you get these extreme groans— make and you get these extreme groans inai— make and you get these extreme groups that come— make and you get these extreme groups that come in and ruin it for groups that come in and ruin it ior swsryioiy— groups that come in and ruin it ior swsryioiy .— groups that come in and ruin it for everybody . okay. 2 »g12 for everybody. okay. all right. war.— for everybody. okay. all right. well, look, coming up next, we'll be speaking to a top author, keir starmer wants to get rid of those gas and oil licences in the north sea. is climate change a scam? we'll get the answer to that . plus, should the answer to that. plus, should woke corporations stay out of politics? the results of our text poll

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on twitter supporting pride with a drag act. however, stephanie says.— a drag act. however, stephanie says. in— a drag act. however, stephanie says. in goi— a drag act. however, stephanie says. in goi no— »2 22g 32.2 however, stephanie says, i've got no problem with wnai— says, i've got no problem with what nationwide _ says, i've got no problem with what nationwide are trying to do. what nationwide are trying to is. insy— what nationwide are trying to is. iasy wani— what nationwide are trying to do. they want to _ what nationwide are trying to do. they want to include all of insin— do. they want to include all of their customers— do. they want to include all of their customers and be a bit more understanding , glenda says. more understanding, glenda says. mark.— more understanding, glenda says. mark. i— more understanding, glenda says. mark. i onsnsi— more understanding, glenda says. mark, i opened an— more understanding, glenda says. mark, i opened an account with waiionwiis— mark, i opened an account with nationwide last— mark, i opened an account with nationwide last week. i wish i nasa-i— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered .— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered . it's only for hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 hadn't bothered. it's only for n nonins. — hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 months. and— hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 months. and then i shall sioss— 12 months. and then i shall sioss ii— 12 months. and then i shall sioss ii .— 12 months. and then i shall close it . stephen mark there are close it. stephen mark there are more men identifying as women to get more men identifying as women to gsi inro— more men identifying as women to gsi inio wornsn-s— more men identifying as women to get into women's spaces than insrs— get into women's spaces than insrs ars— get into women's spaces than there are women— get into women's spaces than there are women identifying as ani— there are women identifying as ani irying— there are women identifying as men and trying to get into men's snasss— men and trying to get into men's snasss wniisi— men and trying to get into men's snasss wniisi .— men and trying to get into men's spaces whilst . stephen spaces whilst. stephen anecdotally _ spaces whilst. stephen anecdotally that would seem to be anecdotally that would seem to is iras. — anecdotally that would seem to is iras. i— anecdotally that would seem to be true. i wonder— anecdotally that would seem to be true. i wonder what's behind inas— be true. i wonder what's behind in s— be true. i wonder what's behind in s ws— be true. i wonder what's behind in s ws san— be true. i wonder what's behind that ? we can ponder, can't we? that? we can ponder, can't we? win— that? we can ponder, can't we? iiiks says— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark.— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark. it— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark. it goes beyond wnai— mike says mark. it goes beyond wnai ysan— mike says mark. it goes beyond what your guests— mike says mark. it goes beyond what your guests are talking aioai— what your guests are talking aioai .— what your guests are talking aioai . insy— what your guests are talking about . they talk of cashing in about. they talk of cashing in ani— about. they talk of cashing in ani ising— about. they talk of cashing in and being fashionable. however, the and being fashionable. however, ins nors— and being fashionable. however, the more sinister— and being fashionable. however, the more sinister view and more accurate reason— the more sinister view and more accurate reason for— the more sinister view and more accurate reason for this push of inns— accurate reason for this push of inns asiiwisn— accurate reason for this push of trans activism is— accurate reason for this push of trans activism is due to the destabilisation _ trans activism is due to the destabilisation of the west and a narxisi— destabilisation of the west and a marxist agenda— destabilisation of the west and a marxist agenda in collaboration with globalist isin— collaboration with globalist ii— collaboration with globalist ii yoa— collaboration with globalist ii yoa or— collaboration with globalist ism. if you or your guests can't anis.— ism. if you or your guests can't inis. insa—

ism. if you or your guests can't see this, then we— ism. if you or your guests can't see this, then we are truly issi. — see this, then we are truly issi. isiiy— see this, then we are truly lost. betty i've— see this, then we are truly lost. betty i've been with nationwide— lost. betty i've been with nationwide for- lost. betty i've been with nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous— nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous the— nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous the way large sornnaniss— it's ridiculous the way large companies advertise themselves. wonsn— companies advertise themselves. women are women— companies advertise themselves. women are women and men are men. isiiy— women are women and men are men. isiiy inank— women are women and men are men. isiiy inank yoa— women are women and men are men. isiiy inank yoa ior— women are women and men are men. betty thank you for your no nonsense email— betty thank you for your no nonsense email . and this from nonsense email. and this from snris. — nonsense email. and this from snris. iasi— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but not— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but not least, chris says.— chris. last but not least, chris says. hi.— chris. last but not least, chris says. hi. wank.— chris. last but not least, chris says, hi, mark. i'd— chris. last but not least, chris says, hi, mark. i'd say these woks— says, hi, mark. i'd say these woke companies— says, hi, mark. i'd say these woke companies are creating a innsnioiia— woke companies are creating a transphobia. we— woke companies are creating a transphobia. we never cared who irssssi— transphobia. we never cared who irssssi as— transphobia. we never cared who dressed as what. _ transphobia. we never cared who dressed as what. lviv and let iiks.— dressed as what. lviv and let iiws. wow— dressed as what. lviv and let iiws. now its— dressed as what. lviv and let live. now it's shoved down your inroais— live. now it's shoved down your inroais ani— live. now it's shoved down your throats and people— live. now it's shoved down your throats and people are off at ising— throats and people are off at ising ioii— throats and people are off at being told how— throats and people are off at being told how bad they are and wnai— being told how bad they are and wnai io— being told how bad they are and what to think. _ being told how bad they are and what to think. i— being told how bad they are and what to think. i will not nrsisni— what to think. i will not pretend for— what to think. i will not pretend for anyone in terms of pronouns, pronouns , my says pronouns, pronouns, my says sinis— pronouns, pronouns, my says snris. noi— pronouns, pronouns, my says chris, not pulling his punches . chris, not pulling his punches. wsi— chris, not pulling his punches. wsii. ws— chris, not pulling his punches. well, we asked— chris, not pulling his punches. well, we asked on twitter should woks— well, we asked on twitter should woke companies— well, we asked on twitter should woke companies stay out of noiiiisss— woke companies stay out of politics? 90%_ woke companies stay out of politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. ion— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. in san— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. in saii no— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. in saii no .— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. 10% said no . and— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. 10% said no . and it's time now 10% said no. and it's time now for 10% said no. and it's time now ior ins— 10% said no. and it's time now ior ins iig— 10% said no. and it's time now for the big story.— 10% said no. and it's time now for the big story. critics of ins— for the big story. critics of is as— for the big story. critics of the new live— for the big story. critics of the new live action version of iisnsy-s— the new live action version of disney's little— the new live action version of disney's little mermaid have issn— disney's little mermaid have been labelled _ disney's little mermaid have been labelled racist with the ini— been labelled racist with the iiiii iiin — been labelled racist with the imdb film review website

iingraiing— imdb film review website upgrading scores for the film isaiaring— upgrading scores for the film featuring the— upgrading scores for the film featuring the flurry of one star reviews . apparently that might reviews. apparently that might nays— reviews. apparently that might naws issn— reviews. apparently that might have been because the lead snansisr— have been because the lead character was— have been because the lead character was played by a black asrsssi so— character was played by a black actress. so our— character was played by a black actress. so our critics of the noon— actress. so our critics of the movie horribly— actress. so our critics of the movie horribly racist , actress. so our critics of the movie horribly racist, or is it iasi— movie horribly racist, or is it iasi a— movie horribly racist, or is it an a iai— movie horribly racist, or is it just a bad film _ movie horribly racist, or is it just a bad film with woke nysisria— just a bad film with woke hysteria surrounding almost swsry— hysteria surrounding almost every production? these days? is noiiiisai— every production? these days? is political correctness destroying the entertainment industry ? who the entertainment industry? who issisr— the entertainment industry? who isiisr io— the entertainment industry? who isiisr is ask— the entertainment industry? who better to ask than— the entertainment industry? who better to ask than the brilliant iinss— better to ask than the brilliant times columnist— better to ask than the brilliant times columnist and long sianiing— times columnist and long standing theatre critic? thank soi— standing theatre critic? thank soi nss— standing theatre critic? thank god he's never— standing theatre critic? thank god he's never reviewed me. oasniin— god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts_ god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi— god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi ,- god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi , quentin. hello quentin letts hi, quentin. hello iiark. — quentin letts hi, quentin. hello iiark. i— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello iiark. i naigii— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. i might have— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. i might have to- quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. g mark. i might have to look forward. ilook mark. i might have to look forward. i look forward to a in— 2 i look forward to a review in tomorrow's times. oasniin. — review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first _ review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first of— review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first of all, your rsasiion— quentin, first of all, your reaction to _ quentin, first of all, your reaction to this- quentin, first of all, your reaction to this accusation that nsrnans— reaction to this accusation that nsrnans sriiiss— reaction to this accusation that perhaps critics of— reaction to this accusation that perhaps critics of the little iisrnaii— perhaps critics of the little mermaid live— perhaps critics of the little mermaid live action remake are nsisi— mermaid live action remake are rasisi .— mermaid live action remake are rasisi . a— mermaid live action remake are rasisi . a iii— mermaid live action remake are racist , a bit peculiar to get racist, a bit peculiar to get nsr— racist, a bit peculiar to get is an— racist, a bit peculiar to get as an aioai— racist, a bit peculiar to get het up about hal berry playing a nsrnaii— het up about hal berry playing a nsrnaii. ising— het up about hal berry playing a mermaid, being the wrong colour sosno— mermaid, being the wrong colour somehow because— mermaid, being the wrong colour somehow because between you and me, somehow because between you and i— somehow because between you and i ion-i— somehow because between you and i ion-i know— somehow because between you and me, i don't know if— somehow because between you and me, i don't know if we can say

anis.— me, i don't know if we can say inis. anis— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this early— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this early hour nsrnaiis— this, this this early hour mermaids don't exist . this, this this early hour— mermaids don't exist . so the you mermaids don't exist. so the you know.— mermaids don't exist. so the you know. iii— mermaids don't exist. so the you know. is a— mermaids don't exist. so the you know, it's a strange thing to consider that people might get het up about that. it's quite possible. it'sjust het up about that. it's quite possible. it's just a terrible film. it possible. it's just a terrible film . it quite possibly, indeed film. it quite possibly, indeed is . io— film. it quite possibly, indeed is . is yoa— film. it quite possibly, indeed is . do you think— 7 it quite possibly, indeed is. do you think critics are 7 it quite possibly, indeed is . do you think critics are now is. do you think critics are now nsans— is. do you think critics are now nsano aioai— is. do you think critics are now nervous about criticising nroiasiions— nervous about criticising productions that contain a iiwsrss— productions that contain a diverse cast— productions that contain a diverse cast that if they're sriiisai— diverse cast that if they're critical, they'll— diverse cast that if they're critical, they'll get labelled inis— critical, they'll get labelled an or— critical, they'll get labelled this or that _ critical, they'll get labelled this or that as— critical, they'll get labelled this or that as they undoubtedly are this or that as they undoubtedly s — this or that as they undoubtedly s ssnns— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of my— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of my i— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? 212 are? some of my i can tell you some of my fellow theatre critics on fleet street papers , critics on fleet street papers, they tell me that they will not dare criticise certain aspects of plays or productions. now what we're not what we're not saying here, mark, we're not saying here, mark, we're not saying that theatre cannot be political . theatre has been political. theatre has been political. theatre has been political since ancient greek comedy and some modern productions. if you think about the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, fantastically political and really telling about modern youth actually , and about modern youth actually, and the frenzy of wokery modern

youth. so theatre should be and can be political . however, what can be political. however, what what troubles people and troubles audiences. i think , is troubles audiences. i think, is when the casting becomes so thuddingly wokeist that it gets in the way of the suspension of disbelief. theatre operates . the disbelief. theatre operates. the dealis disbelief. theatre operates. the deal is that you go in and you suspend your disbelief and you believe that the story that's going on is real and the characters are real and it becomes a problem if something interferes with that. and a lot of modern casting does get in the way of that, either by being gender blind or colour blind or disability blind or waitlist blind. and last summer we had a musical in in a open air theatre in london where they were away weight blind cast. so they cast it between you and me, a bunch of heffalumps as the chorus line . and it became ludicrous because the set started bouncing up and down as they were doing their big musical numbers and i

was the only critic to point out the absurdity of this. everyone else said, how wonderful. well a lot of the other critics said how wonderful it was that a musical was being cast with i can't remember what what the correct term is, but basically porker's playing the chorus line. and i say this as one with a certain amount of avoir. du bois himself said before your viewers point that out. so there is certainly a state recently, although i think it's improving that critics have felt unable to say things about certain productions. the royal shakespeare company, state subsidised, is among the worst of the wokies , and they had of the wokies, and they had a juuus of the wokies, and they had a julius caesar recently where brutus was played by a woman, which is okay. that's it's an interesting modern interpretation, if you like . but interpretation, if you like. but then you come to mark antony's line. but brutus is an honourable man, and we had that being forced down our throats. and brutus plainly wasn't a

bloke , you know, it should have bloke, you know, it should have been. brutus is an honourable man. maybe but they didn't do that. and and, you know, the whole thing we had, we had a non—binary soothsayer in that one as well. i think . and it is one as well. i think. and it is everywhere. it's been particularly prevalent in the subsidy ised sector, but and this is where can bring your, your viewers some comfort i've detected since the end of lockdown. there's been a certain pushback btec because i think theatres have realised they could earn some money again . and could earn some money again. and so the national theatre, which was previously pretty wokey, has now dropped a lot of that and is concentrating on box office again. so i think we have peaked at quentin. i always love isaiing— at quentin. i always love rsaiing yoa— at quentin. i always love reading you in— at quentin. i always love reading you in the- 01.272 12 i always love reading you in the times. i look iorwari— reading you in the times. i look iorwari io— reading you in the times. i look iorwari is my— reading you in the times. i look forward to my one— reading you in the times. i look forward to my one star review in iorn-ornws nansn— forward to my one star review in tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky , tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, ins— tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, the brilliant— tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, the brilliant quentin letts. wnai— the brilliant quentin letts. wnai a— the brilliant quentin letts. wnai a gay. — the brilliant quentin letts. what a guy. what a character in— what a guy. what a character in goi— what a guy. what a character in goi io— what a guy. what a character in goi is say.— what a guy. what a character i've got to say, are thrilled to nays— i've got to say, are thrilled to naws nin — i've got to say, are thrilled to naws rain on— i've got to say, are thrilled to have him on the— i've got to say, are thrilled to have him on the show. let's get nin— have him on the show. let's get nin-srsg— have him on the show. let's get him-greg there's- have him on the show. let's get him-greg there's a- have him on the show. let's get him greg there's a keeper him back. greg there's a keeper for him back. greg there's a keeper ior—io— him back. greg there's a keeper ior—is sons- him back. greg there's a keeper ior—is .l

for you. lots more to come, ioiks— for you. lots more to come, folks, including— for you. lots more to come, folks, including my top pundits. and folks, including my top pundits. ani i-ws— folks, including my top pundits. ani i-ws goi— folks, including my top pundits. and i've got some— folks, including my top pundits. and i've got some duty questions for and i've got some duty questions ior insa— and i've got some duty questions ior insn. iai— and i've got some duty questions for them. but first— and i've got some duty questions for them. but first up, let's iaik— for them. but first up, let's iaik aioai— for them. but first up, let's talk about the— for them. but first up, let's talk about the environment. yes, inissi— talk about the environment. yes, inissi .— talk about the environment. yes, indeed . labour— talk about the environment. yes, indeed . labour leader keir indeed. labour leader keir siarnsr— indeed. labour leader keir starmer has— indeed. labour leader keir starmer has said he will not grani— starmer has said he will not grani any— starmer has said he will not grant any future— starmer has said he will not grant any future gas or oil sonioniion — grant any future gas or oil exploration licences when he issos— exploration licences when he becomes prime— exploration licences when he becomes prime minister. so is ins— becomes prime minister. so is is narsaii— becomes prime minister. so is is narsaii oi— becomes prime minister. so is the pursuit of net— becomes prime minister. so is the pursuit of net zero now inswiiaiis— the pursuit of net zero now inevitable ?_ the pursuit of net zero now inevitable ? whichever government inevitable? whichever government is in— inevitable? whichever government is in snangs— inevitable? whichever government is in snargs is— inevitable? whichever government is in charge is the— inevitable? whichever government is in charge is the science asaai— is in charge is the science around global— is in charge is the science around global warming now ssiiisi— around global warming now ssiiisi .— around global warming now ssiiisi . or— around global warming now settled , or is— around global warming now settled , or is climate change a settled, or is climate change a ssarn— settled, or is climate change a iii— settled, or is climate change a scam? i'll bring— settled, or is climate change a scam? i'll bring you the results of scam? i'll bring you the results oi oa— scam? i'll bring you the results oi issi— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll on— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll on that shortly . iai— of our text poll on that shortly . iai isi-s— of our text poll on that shortly . but let's speak— of our text poll on that shortly . but let's speak to the author of . but let's speak to the author oi a— . but let's speak to the author oi a inni— . but let's speak to the author of a brand new— . but let's speak to the author of a brand new book that's gsiiing— of a brand new book that's gsiiing ins— of a brand new book that's getting the country talking. it's getting the country talking. ii-s on— getting the country talking. its on inai— getting the country talking. it's on that subject. it's by isoss— it's on that subject. it's by isoss-ani— it's on that subject. it's by ross-and it's- it's on that subject. it's by ross and it's called not ross clark and it's called not zsro— ross clark and it's called not zsro-siark- ross clark and it's called not zero-clark joins- ross clark and it's called not zero clark joins us zero and ross clark joins us ii.— zero and ross clark joins us ii. isoss— zero and ross clark joins us now. hi, ross . _ zero and ross clark joins us now. hi, ross . 22 12 1»g zero and ross clark joins us- now. hi, ross . good evening. hi now. hi, ross. good evening. hi wsi— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi wsii. insrs— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi wsii. insrs yoa— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go .— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go . is— now. hi, ross. 22 12 1»g well, there you go . is climate well, there you go. is climate snangs— well, there you go. is climate snangs a— well, there you go. is climate sings a ssan— well, there you go. is climate change a scam ?_ well, there you go. is climate change a scam ? um well, no, it's change a scam? um well, no, it's noi— change a scam? um well, no, it's noi a— change a scam? um well, no, it's noi a ris— change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. it's not— change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. it's not a- change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. 2 not a scam. it's not a hoax. there is evidence that the globe is getting warmer, and that's very likely to do with a lot to

do with manmade influence, even if we can't quite prove it. but what we do have is a hysteria around climate change. now where, you know, i keep reading that we're heading for an unliveable earth. when we get to 1.5% celsius above pre—industrial level temperatures, well, we're about 1.1 now. and the parts of the world already 1.5% celsius above , um, the levels that were in the 19th, mid 19th century and the 19th, mid 19th century and the world hasn't come to an end. and um, you know, i keep thinking, you know, was it john kerry the us climate envoy, keeps going round saying that 10 million people a year are being killed by the heat that's complete rubbish. it comes , it complete rubbish. it comes, it comes from a misquote of an australian study to years ago which found that 5 million people a year die from extreme temperatures and 9/10 of them are from extreme cold

temperatures. and while the number of people dying from extreme heat is rising a little bit, the number of people dying from extreme cold is falling even more so actually, if you want to attribute deaths to a climate change, actually, you know, climate change, you would say was saving lives at the moment. so it's just got to an absurd stage where this sort of kind, this sort of hysteria just feeds off itself. but, you know, we've now got sort of, you know , school kids who really think that the world is going to come to an end and they're going to they're not going to reach adulthood because we're all going to be killed by climate change. and, you know, it's rather, serious . some rather, rather serious. some trauma traumatisation that they've gone through. and so , they've gone through. and so, no, climate change is real, but it's , um, you know, not the not it's, um, you know, not the not the sort of, um , threat to the sort of, um, threat to humans , which is , you know, made humans, which is, you know, made out to be by so many people,

although perhaps . ross some although perhaps. ross some would although perhaps. ross some woaii argas— although perhaps. ross some would argue it— although perhaps. ross some would argue it will— although perhaps. ross some would argue it will be- would argue it will be eventually— would argue it will be eventually .- would argue it will be eventually . why should we wait eventually. why should we wait asaai— eventually. why should we wait aoani ins— eventually. why should we wait around the cost— eventually. why should we wait around the cost of— eventually. why should we wait around the cost of dealing with the around the cost of dealing with is srisis— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will be— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will be far higher if we the crisis will be far higher if ws ignors— the crisis will be far higher if ws ignors ii.— the crisis will be far higher if we ignore it. it's— the crisis will be far higher if we ignore it. it's very clear inas— we ignore it. it's very clear in ins— we ignore it. it's very clear that the majority of mainstream ssisniisis— that the majority of mainstream ssisniisis io— that the majority of mainstream scientists do believe there's a nroiisn — scientists do believe there's a nroiisn ani— scientists do believe there's a problem and believe we need net zero. how can that— problem and believe we need net zero. how can that many people be zero. how can that many people is wrong— zero. how can that many people is wrong i— zero. how can that many people is wrong swsii— zero. how can that many people be wrong ? well i'm not saying be wrong? well i'm not saying insy— be wrong? well i'm not saying insy ars— be wrong? well i'm not saying iasy wrong — be wrong? well i'm not saying they are wrong. i— be wrong? well i'm not saying they are wrong. 12 2 they are wrong. i mean, it certainly is right that we move to cleaner energy. we tried to cut carbon emissions maybe one day eliminate them, but you know, you've got to balance the dangers against the, you know, not having an economy . and if not having an economy. and if you try and sort of change to drop all net carbon emissions by 2025, which extinction rebellion seems to want to do, well, you won't have an economy left. you've got far more people being sort of killed by hunger and disease and everything else , um, disease and everything else, um, than would be killed by any climate change. so, you know, it's a question of balance. and

at the moment we've just got this obsession with getting to net zero by 2050. this, of arbitrary date. and um, it seems to be riding roughshod over all other considerations. you know, food, wealth , um, and you know, food, wealth, um, and you know, rich countries can cope with climatic extremes , extreme climatic extremes, extreme weathers, poor countries can't cope with natural disasters . and cope with natural disasters. and so, you know, if you impoverish people, you know, we'll end up with far more people in trouble than than we will otherwise. ross let's have you back on the show. ross clark is the author of show. ross clark is the author oi wsi— show. ross clark is the author oi woi zoo.— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it is— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it is the- ross clark is the author of not zero. it is the book inai-s— of not zero. it is the book that's getting— of not zero. it is the book that's getting britain talking. it's that's getting britain talking. ii-s oai— that's getting britain talking. ii-s sai now— that's getting britain talking. ii-s sai .— that's getting britain talking. it's out now . coming up next it's out now. coming up next wisn— it's out now. coming up next wiin ins— it's out now. coming up next with the pundits— it's out now. coming up next with the pundits , is it the fire with the pundits, is it the fire ssniss-s— with the pundits, is it the fire ssniss-s ioi— with the pundits, is it the fire service's job to— with the pundits, is it the fire service's job to move obese nsoniss— service's job to move obese people? should— service's job to move obese people? should people be fined for people? should people be fined ior issiing— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks ? and given for feeding ducks? and given inai— for feeding ducks? and given in insy— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak out for so many siggiss— that they sneak out for so many siggiss ssai— that they sneak out for so many siggies scheur smokers be forced to siggies scheur smokers be forced is work— siggies scheur smokers be forced to work overtime?— siggies scheur smokers be forced to work overtime? and don't iorgsi— to work overtime? and don't iorgsi. ai— to work overtime? and don't forget, at 10:00— to work overtime? and don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing wiri— forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing wiin iniiiin— forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with phillip schofield all of inai— with phillip schofield all of ii is— with phillip schofield all of that to come— with phillip schofield all of that to come see you

we're proud to be gb news the people's channel. britain's . is people's channel. britain's. is siinais— people's channel. britain's. is climate change— people's channel. britain's. is climate change a— 12 britain's. is climate change a scam? 2 britain's. is climate change a scam.7 2 climate change a scam? i've been asking— climate change a scam? i've been asking ysa— climate change a scam? i've been asking you on— climate change a scam? i've been asking you on email, peter says the so—called expertise on human caused climate change is driven by money. influential politicians have decided this is the way and provide grants for those who support their ideas. unsurprisingly, academic peace seeking funding fall in line. andrew mark. climate change is . andrew mark. climate change is. we humans can't stop or start it. bring back the vineyards in northumberland , as in the middle northumberland, as in the middle ages. northumberland, as in the middle ages . thank you, andy. that ages. thank you, andy. that would be a plus point for climate change, wouldn't it? more english wine. bring it on. cheers one now we've cheers one and all. now we've been asking you online, is climate change a scam? the results are in 21.4% say no. but a whacking majority of 78.6 say yes. it is. now let me just be very clear .

yes. it is. now let me just be very clear. come back to me, greg, if you don't mind . and greg, if you don't mind. and young jonathan, that's the vast majority of mainstream scientists around the world. top experts do believe that the planet is dangerously overheat . planet is dangerously overheat. eating it will produce mass migration. big problems for the west , and it migration. big problems for the west, and it must be tackled. so, look, that's majority science. but we hear from all sides on this show. so keep your opinions coming. mark gb news .uk reacting to the big stories of the day. my top pundits with ringside seats for the big, big topics . dr. ringside seats for the big, big topics. dr. lisa ringside seats for the big, big topics . dr. lisa mckenzie , the topics. dr. lisa mckenzie, the only qualified person in the building at the moment, author, academic , journalist and academic, journalist and commentator. the fabulous lizzie zita and a titan of broadcasting fleet street legend mike porky parry. now fire crews are deaung parry. now fire crews are dealing with calls to help physically move obese people once every four hours. these cases , known as bariatric rescue cases, known as bariatric rescue crews, are linked. not surprising to a rise in obesity . so is it the surprising to a rise in obesity .so is it the fire surprising to a rise in obesity . so is it the fire service's to job move obese people? mike the

problem with obesity is it permeates, right throughout society. for instance, we're now iaying— society. for instance, we're now nawing io— society. for instance, we're now having to build— 2 »22y for instance, we're now having to build ambulances, wnisn— having to build ambulances, wnisn ars— having to build ambulances, which are bigger than they used to which are bigger than they used is is— which are bigger than they used is is wisn— which are bigger than they used to be with more— which are bigger than they used to be with more suspension on issaass— to be with more suspension on issaass ins— to be with more suspension on because the people you put in the because the people you put in ins-so— because the people you put in ins-so iai.- because the people you put in the-so fat. did- because the people you put in the so fat. did you the back are so fat. did you know— the back are so fat. did you know-ai— the back are so fat. did you know at crematoriums we're know that at crematoriums we're iaying— know that at crematoriums we're nawing io— know that at crematoriums we're nawing is iaii— know that at crematoriums we're having to build bigger ovens, for having to build bigger ovens, ior wani— having to build bigger ovens, ior wani oi— having to build bigger ovens, for want of a— having to build bigger ovens, for want of a better word , in for want of a better word, in wnisn— for want of a better word, in wnisn ins— for want of a better word, in which the bodies— for want of a better word, in which the bodies are inserted? iiink— which the bodies are inserted? iiink ws— which the bodies are inserted? iiink we is— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a better- which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a better word? yeah. okay okay. but you know ssasiiy— yeah. okay okay. but you know ssasiiy wnai— yeah. okay okay. but you know exactly what i'm _ 242312 okay. but you know exactly what i'm saying. in noinaass— exactly what i'm saying. in mortuaries, the— exactly what i'm saying. in mortuaries, the tables have had to mortuaries, the tables have had is is— mortuaries, the tables have had is is nass— mortuaries, the tables have had to be made bigger— mortuaries, the tables have had to be made bigger because the ioiiss— to be made bigger because the ioiiss ars— to be made bigger because the bodies are bigger.— to be made bigger because the bodies are bigger. they're ssanining— bodies are bigger. they're examining. so— bodies are bigger. they're examining. so this is just anoinsr— examining. so this is just another example of the fact that the another example of the fact that is worii — another example of the fact that is worii is— another example of the fact that the world is getting bigger . and the world is getting bigger. and it's the world is getting bigger. and its a— the world is getting bigger. and its a nasn— the world is getting bigger. and it's a much, much,— the world is getting bigger. and it's a much, much, much more serious problem— it's a much, much, much more serious problem than occasionally- serious problem than occasionally the firemen having to occasionally the firemen having is snasn— occasionally the firemen having is snasn a— occasionally the firemen having to smash a wall— occasionally the firemen having to smash a wall down literally to smain a wall down literally to smash a wall down literally is gsi— to smash a wall down literally is gsi a— to smash a wall down literally io gsi a nags— to smash a wall down literally to get a huge obese lady like iniiwiiaai— to get a huge obese lady like individual out— to get a huge obese lady like individual out of— to get a huge obese lady like individual out of that building and individual out of that building ani inis— individual out of that building ani inio an— individual out of that building and into an ambulance, which can iarsiy— and into an ambulance, which can iarsiy sannon— and into an ambulance, which can iarsiy sannon ins— and into an ambulance, which can barely support the weight of the nsrson— barely support the weight of the nsrson ris— barely support the weight of the nsrson its a— barely support the weight of the person. it's a huge— barely support the weight of the person. it's a huge problem. can— person. it's a huge problem. can i— person. it's a huge problem. can i naks— person. it's a huge problem. can i naks a— person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link— person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for- person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for it- person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for it between the last story when we were

talking about innocent drinks and obesity ? obe because isn't and obesity? obe because isn't it easier to kind of go, oh, look, we you know, we're we're really care about the world. look at our stance on trans issues or lgbtq issues , but what issues or lgbtq issues, but what they're not doing is coca cola is not looking at the way that it it produces its drinks and the way its produces its its foodstuff. and it is filling them still with sugar and all sorts of other things . yeah, sorts of other things. yeah, yeah. and so, you know , is it yeah. and so, you know, is it any wonder that people are because we know that obesity is part of the food chain, isn't it? it's part of the it's also part of history. we have it eafien part of history. we have it easier, though, isn't it easier for the innocent and coca—cola to go look how look how good we are on this. but let's not talk about this. a distraction. yeah. and let's not talk about this stuff. that's that's actually harming people. well, of course, coca—cola would argue that they've range they've developed a range of products calorie. products that are low calorie. well, it's still full of sugar.

snarnn— well, it's still full of sugar. spartan . absolutely - well, it's still full of sugar. spartan absolutely dreadful spartan is absolutely dreadful for but look, this problem for you. but look, this problem goes know that british goes do you know that british kids have the worst diet in the world? in the world, according to the nutrition trust, british kids are the worst diet. i mean, and we are talking about sugar. yeah of course it is sugars. i mean , we do have a choice, guys, mean, we do have a choice, guys, about what we put into our mouths and people in this country don't really cook . they country don't really cook. they unpack in italy , in france, in unpack in italy, in france, in spain. i agree. mediterranean. they have more of an honour of making dinner sitting down at the table. it's not. it has to come at government level because we need education. of course we do. we need to be educated on what to eat and also all the stuff like, you know, do you remember the triangle that they used to teach us about years ago? pyramid yeah, the food . it ago? pyramid yeah, the food. it needs the other needs to be inverted. the other way round. it's, you know , too way round. it's, you know, too much, much carbohydrate. not much, too much carbohydrate. not enough protein. half plate enough protein. half your plate should always green. and i'm should always be green. and i'm sorry . when to send my sorry. when i used to send my daughter school with a salad,

daughter to school with a salad, beetroot, you know, tomatoes, pomegranate . they all laughed at pomegranate. they all laughed at her. they get when they come round my house. look , they round my house. they look, they love it. they only wanted to eat white in house. white white bread in my house. you've got to get them trained up. let's about white you've got to get them trained up. le by about white you've got to get them trained up. le by way, jt white you've got to get them trained up. leby way, because you've got to get them trained up. le by way, because to bread, by the way, because to ins— bread, by the way, because to ins-a— bread, by the way, because to ins-a iag- bread, by the way, because to ins-a iag oi- bread, by the way, because to the a bag of breads the pond with a bag of breads ani— the pond with a bag of breads ani iossing— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it to— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it to the ducks is a snsrisnsi— and tossing it to the ducks is a cherished memory— and tossing it to the ducks is a cherished memory for many of us. but cherished memory for many of us. iai noi— cherished memory for many of us. iai noi ii— cherished memory for many of us. iai noi ii ons— cherished memory for many of us. but not if one london council's got but not if one london council's goi anyining— but not if one london council's goi anyining io— but not if one london council's got anything to do— but not if one london council's got anything to do with it. they say inai— got anything to do with it. they say inai irsai— got anything to do with it. they say that bread doesn't nourish say that bread doesn't nouriin the say that bread doesn't nourish ins iasks— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and is— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and is probably kiiiing— the ducks and is probably killing them.— the ducks and is probably killing them. so should people be killing them. so should people is iinsi— killing them. so should people is iinsi ior— killing them. so should people be fined for feeding ducks? iiigni— be fined for feeding ducks? iiigni-sssn— be fined for feeding ducks? might seem have strong might you seem to have strong iss— might you seem to have strong views on this? _ might you seem to have strong views on this? i— might you seem to have strong views on this? »1:2y views on this? i have very strong views on it. a member strong views on it. i'm a member of a conservancy in surrey of a duck conservancy in surrey down in stockbroker belt. okay we look after our ducks down there. got lots ponds, there. we've got lots of ponds, lots on them, quack, lots of ducks on them, quack, quack. thank very much quack. thank you very much indeed. imitation is indeed. nice imitation is criticism like water off a duck's to you. water off duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to you. water off a iask-s iask— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me now- duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me now i- »22.»2.

along and they go, tut, tut and all kind of stuff. and i all that kind of stuff. and i just give them, you know, a lecture how not to be so lecture on how not to be so specific about things they don't know about. now the people who come along with the peas and the carrots chuck them onto the carrots and chuck them onto the pond, my ducks just do a u—turn. they're away . they couldn't care they're away. they couldn't care less about rose and peas or carrots like that. they love the bread and the bread has never killed a duck. okay. there you go. ducks are the most beautiful animals in the world. you look at colour of a duck. at the colour design of a duck. you know, and a beautiful feathers they have and all that. we've got cherish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks cherish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks willierish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will onlyi. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will only eatir ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will only eat soggyzs and ducks will only eat soggy white bread. all right, well, iook— white bread. all right, well, look, producer— white bread. all right, well, look, producer greg,- 2 all right, well, look, producer greg, can you get the look, producer greg, can you get ins-nssnonss- look, producer greg, can you get the-response from - the definitive response from wsis— the definitive response from wsis as— the definitive response from wsis as is— the definitive response from vets as to whether or not we snoaii — vets as to whether or not we should-feeding- vets as to whether or not we i should .feeding-white should be feeding ducks, white irsai— should be feeding ducks, white irsai s— should be feeding ducks, white irsai s iasi— should be feeding ducks, white bread ? last but— should be feeding ducks, white bread ? last but not least, bread? last but not least, soks— bread? last but not least, smokers gain— bread? last but not least, smokers gain the equivalent of an skin— smokers gain the equivalent of an extra week's— smokers gain the equivalent of an extra week's holiday every ysan— an extra week's holiday every ysar iron — an extra week's holiday every year from stepping outside for a irsak. — year from stepping outside for a irsak. a— year from stepping outside for a irsak. a ns— year from stepping outside for a break. a new study shows this iaks— break. a new study shows this iaks as— break. a new study shows this can take as much— break. a new study shows this can take as much as 20 minutes out can take as much as 20 minutes sai oi— can take as much as 20 minutes sai oi sons— can take as much as 20 minutes out of some people's working day.— out of some people's working iay. wnisn— out of some people's working day, which adds— out of some people's working day, which adds up to 39 hours a ysan— day, which adds up to 39 hours a ysan so—

day, which adds up to 39 hours a ysar. so giwsn— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so given that— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so given that they sneak out year. so given that they sneak sai ior— year. so given that they sneak sai ior so— year. so given that they sneak out for so many— year. so given that they sneak out for so many ciggies, should soks— out for so many ciggies, should soks is— out for so many ciggies, should smokers be forced— out for so many ciggies, should smokers be forced to work over iinsi— smokers be forced to work over iinsi iisa— smokers be forced to work over iinsi iisa wo— smokers be forced to work over time? lisa no ,_ smokers be forced to work over time? lisa no , no. time? lisa no, no. let's let's nsr— time? lisa no, no. let's let's not we're not people that want to dictate and tell everybody what the rules. but, you know, insy-ws— what the rules. but, you know, iasy-vs goi— what the rules. but, you know, they've got they've— what the rules. but, you know, they've got they've got- but, you know, they've got they've got to insy-ws — they've got they've got to iasy-vs goi— they've got they've got to they've got to _ they've got they've got to they've got to leave the office. insy-ws— they've got to leave the office. iasy-vs goi— they've got to leave the office. iasy-vs goi io— they've got to leave the office. they've got to get— they've got to leave the office. they've got to get in the lift. w...— they've got to get in the lift. voa-ws goi— they've got to get in the lift. koa-ws goi io— they've got to get in the lift. you've got to get— they've got to get in the lift. you've got to get outside. insy-ws— you've got to get outside. iasy-vs goi— you've got to get outside. iasy-vs goi io— you've got to get outside. they've got to light up. that's rigni. — they've got to light up. that's rigni.-riiaai. - they've got to light up. that's right. -ritual. well,- they've got to light up. that's right. ritual. �*j.jij»2;22 right. it's a ritual. well, i assi— right. it's a ritual. well, i used . litter _ right. it's a ritual. well, i used litter the pavement with used to litter the pavement with filthy. well you know, cigarette butts. disgusting. to butts. disgusting. i used to i assi— butts. disgusting. i used to i used—actually. butts. disgusting. i used to i. used—actually have used to i used to actually have a rsai— used to i used to actually have a rsai isi.— used to i used to actually have a rsai isi-io— used to i used to actually have a real job.-to-in. a real job. i used to work in a iasiory— a real job. i used to work in a iasiory-naking- a real job. i used to work in a factory making tights. yes. factory and making tights. yes. ani— factory and making tights. yes. ami—n...- factory and making tights. yes. and—pretty polly. . and everybody. pretty polly. yes:— and everybody. pretty polly. wss—is- and everybody. pretty polly. wss—is inas- yes, pretty polly. is that your nisknanss— yes, pretty polly. is that your nickname?-that- yes, pretty polly. is that your nickname? that well yes, pretty polly. is that your- nickname?-that-well we nickname? no, that was. well we nowws-— nickname? no, that was. well we now-we no longer- nickname? no, that was. well we now we no longer make now know we no longer make iignis— now know we no longer make signs in— now know we no longer make signs in inis— now know we no longer make tights in this country. it's gaiis— tights in this country. it's gaiis-rsaii- tights in this country. it's quite-really .- tights in this country. it's quite really . yeah. no more quite sad, really. yeah. no more iasisriss— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but the— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but the girls, swsryioiy— factories. but the girls, everybody there get everybody there could get a irsak. — everybody there could get a break. ididn't_ everybody there could get a break. didn't smoke , but i break. i didn't smoke, but i assi— break. i didn't smoke, but i assi io— break. i didn't smoke, but i assi is go— break. i didn't smoke, but i used to go anyway because that's wnsrs— used to go anyway because that's wnsrs ins— used to go anyway because that's where the best— used to go anyway because that's where the best gossip was . where the best gossip was. inai-s— where the best gossip was. was wiri— where the best gossip was. that's with the _ where the best gossip was. that's with the office gossip soning— that's with the office gossip soning iron. — that's with the office gossip coming from. if— that's with the office gossip coming from. if you don't have the coming from. if you don't have is irsak— coming from. if you don't have is irsak. ii— coming from. if you don't have the break, if you,— coming from. if you don't have the break, if you, if you have a sigarsiis— the break, if you, if you have a cigarette break. _ the break, if you, if you have a cigarette break. jcij212»2;2s 22»: cigarette break. others are having a cigarette break and you don't smoke. you should be allowed a coffee break. allowed to have a coffee break. well, right . well, that's exactly right. inas—

well, that's exactly right. that-should- well, that's exactly right. that-should be- well, that's exactly right. i that-should be allowed that you should be allowed because if you're not having a cigarette, what would you be doing just work. i doing then? i'd just work. i nrsisr— doing then? i'd just work. i nrsisr work— doing then? i'd just work. i prefer work-having- »2»12» 1»g212»1:127 i'd just work. i prefer work having a »2»12» 1»g 212»:127 i'd just work. i prefer work having a coffee prefer work to having a coffee irsak. — prefer work to having a coffee break. -about_ prefer work to having a coffee break. about cigarette? break. what about a cigarette? a-ai— break. what about a cigarette? a-ai-issai— break. what about a cigarette? a-at-local around- break. what about a cigarette? a-at-local around thei a lager at the local around the corner? no, more two and corner? no, more like two and a iaii— corner? no, more like two and a naii ninis— corner? no, more like two and a naii ninis in— corner? no, more like two and a half pints in five— 2 27’ no, more like two and a half pints in five minutes. the gossin— half pints in five minutes. the gossin. iai— half pints in five minutes. the gossin. iai san— half pints in five minutes. the gossip. but can i— half pints in five minutes. the gossip. but can i also these gossip. but can i also say these nsonis— gossip. but can i also say these pebble going— gossip. but can i also say these pebble going out_ gossip. but can i also say these people going out smoking their sigarsiiss— people going out smoking their sigarars s— people going out smoking their sigarars a— people going out smoking their cigarare a less— people going out smoking their cigarare a less productive they are a less productive worsrk— they are a less productive worsrk .— they are a less productive worker . yeah.— they are a less productive worker . yeah. because every. worker. yeah. because every. wss. — worker. yeah. because every. wss. i— worker. yeah. because every. wss. i is. — worker. yeah. because every. wss. i is. iwsry— worker. yeah. because every. yes. i do. every cigarette they iaks— yes. i do. every cigarette they iaks iiks— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this .— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this . they are firing take like this. they are firing up take like this. they are firing an insin— take like this. they are firing up their arteries.— take like this. they are firing up their arteries. they therefore _ up their arteries. they therefore cannot be as productive _ therefore cannot be as productive a - therefore cannot be as productive a human being as sonsioiy— productive a human being as somebody like— productive a human being as somebody like me who does not soks — somebody like me who does not soks woioiy— somebody like me who does not smoke. nobody is— somebody like me who does not smoke. nobody is more productive inan— smoke. nobody is more productive in win— smoke. nobody is more productive in iiiks rarry. — smoke. nobody is more productive than mike parry. '12»2 smoke. nobody is more productive than mike parry. ' 12»2 2 than mike parry. and he's back at ten. reacting to my take at ten, it's all about phillip schofield. i'm sorry, folks, i don't buy his crocodile tears. you won't want to miss my first comments since his television interview and sun chat. but comments since his television interview and sun chat . but next interview and sun chat. but next up, my mark meets guest is a man who done everything in who has done everything in broadcasting on radio tv broadcasting on radio and tv legend mike reid . of legend mike reid. top of the pops, radio you name it. pops, radio one, you name it. he's .

next i'll be dealing with phillip schofield in literally 12 minutes time in my take at ten, you won't want to miss it. but look, a big reaction to our discussion about should you feed ducks bread in the park? well well done director jonathan, who's done some research on well done director jonathan, who'stheie some research on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspcae research on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspca sayiearch on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspca say although this? the rspca say although ducks, geese and swans are able to digest bread , it can leave to digest bread, it can leave them feeling full without them having gained the nutri science, vitamins and minerals. they need from their natural food. they recommend peas, sweet corn , oats recommend peas, sweet corn, oats and bird seed . there you go. and bird seed. there you go. it's time now for mark meets, in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics. showbiz sport, business and beyond. tonight met a man who has done .just about everythin g has done .just about everything in broadcasting radio and tv legend mike reid, host of top of the pops. and saturday superstore. but a man who made his name at radio luxembourg before joining radio one and ultimately becoming king of

breakfast, where he entertained an audience of millions for five years after that capital gold classic fm magic . this is a guy classic fm magic. this is a guy with radio in his dna. he's put on musicals, recorded pop records , and even written records, and even written a chart topping hit for cliff richard . plus, he entertained richard. plus, he entertained scores of itv viewers with a memorable stint in the jungle on i'm a celebrity. mike reid, welcome to mark dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark. how are thank you very much, mark. how yoa— thank you very much, mark. how yoa ioings — thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? i'm— thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? r»2;2y thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? 232. are you doing? i'm very well. great to have you on the show. what a career. how did you get into broadcasting ? i got in into broadcasting? i got in there's a into broadcasting? i got in insrs-s a gay— into broadcasting? i got in there's a guy on- into broadcasting? i got in there's a guy on local- 22 12»g7’ i got in there's a guy on local radio who is ranning— there's a guy on local radio who is ranning ii— there's a guy on local radio who is running it called— there's a guy on local radio who is running it called neil rirsnsn— is running it called neil ffrench blake. and neil called me ffrench blake. and neil called ms in— ffrench blake. and neil called ms in iay— ffrench blake. and neil called me in one day. i'd— ffrench blake. and neil called me in one day. i'd played in a isw— me in one day. i'd played in a isw srisksi— me in one day. i'd played in a few cricket matches and he'd issn— few cricket matches and he'd issn insrs— few cricket matches and he'd been there and— few cricket matches and he'd been there and he said, i want you— been there and he said, i want yoa on— been there and he said, i want yoa on my— been there and he said, i want you on my station— been there and he said, i want you on my station for three reasons. he said, one, you're isniiiy— reasons. he said, one, you're terribly english.— reasons. he said, one, you're terribly english. he said, two, yos— terribly english. he said, two, yos niiiiy— terribly english. he said, two, you're mildly eccentric and innss.— you're mildly eccentric and anrss. yos— you're mildly eccentric and three, you're a— you're mildly eccentric and three, you're a good opening iowisr— three, you're a good opening iowisr .— three, you're a good opening iowisr . ani— three, you're a good opening bowler . and i— three, you're a good opening bowler . and i said, what's the

bowler. and i said, what's the iasi— bowler. and i said, what's the iasi ons— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got to— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got to do with he last one? got to do with it? he sai.— last one? got to do with it? he saiilsianing— last one? got to do with it? he said, starting cricket said, i'm starting a cricket isan—onsningl said, i'm starting a cricket. team _opening the team and you're opening the iowiing— team and you're opening the bowling.isaid,_ team and you're opening the bowling. said, not want bowling. i said, do you not want to bowling. i said, do you not want io-ns— bowling. i said, do you not want to-me broadcast?- bowling. i said, do you not want to me broadcast? he said, to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll to hear me broadcast? he said, in is— to hear me broadcast? he said, in is iins— to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll be fine. and— to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll be fine. and that was it. i r... so— i'll be fine. and that was it. i was in. so when— i'll be fine. and that was it. i was in. so when people ask how you— was in. so when people ask how yoa-iaiis— was in. so when people ask how you-radio,lthink- you get into radio, i think swsryioiy— you get into radio, i think. everybody—totally everybody gets it in a totally iiiisrsni— everybody gets it in a totally different way. _ everybody gets it in a totally different way. you know ? ' 12»2 different way. you know? and for si— different way. you know? and for si ny— different way. you know? and for some of my younger viewers , can some of my younger viewers, can you them a sense of how you give them a sense of how massive top of the pops was ? massive top of the pops was? yeah, all those programmes were big, but don't forget, there were only four channels then. i mean, are now hundreds of mean, there are now hundreds of siannsis— mean, there are now hundreds of siannsis-niio- channels, loads of radio siaiions. — channels, loads of radio stations. but— channels, loads of radio stations. but then there were ioar. — stations. but then there were ioar. so — stations. but then there were four. so saturday— stations. but then there were four. so saturday morning , four. so saturday morning, saiariay— four. so saturday morning, saturday superstore, we rsgaiariy— saturday superstore, we rsgaiariy goi— saturday superstore, we regularly got million pop regularly got 10 million pop gaiz—nignil regularly got 10 million pop| gaiz—nigni ws regularly got 10 million pop- gaiz—nigni ws goi quiz on a saturday night we got 10 quiz on a saturday night we got is niiiion— quiz on a saturday night we got is niiiion ion— quiz on a saturday night we got 10 million top of— quiz on a saturday night we got 10 million top of the pops to get— 10 million top of the pops to gsi ii— 10 million top of the pops to gsi i or— 10 million top of the pops to gsi i or is— 10 million top of the pops to get 15 or 16 million. i think insrs— get 15 or 16 million. i think insrs sws— get 15 or 16 million. i think there were only— get 15 or 16 million. i think there were only one breakfast snow.— there were only one breakfast snow. soi— there were only one breakfast snow. ssr-ii- there were only one breakfast show. got 14 million. so show. got about 14 million. so insy— show. got about 14 million. so insy sws— show. got about 14 million. so iasy iig.— show. got about 14 million. so they were big, but— show. got about 14 million. so they were big, but there wasn't they were big, but there wasn't. ins—so the competition there is now. so it the competition there is now. so ii-iiiais— the competition there is now. so ii-iiiais .— the competition there is now. so ii-iiiais . ani- the competition there is now. so it-dilute . and so- the competition there is now. so it dilute . and so that it wasn't as dilute. and so that was one reason. _ it wasn't as dilute. and so that was one reason. then you nroiaiiy— was one reason. then you probably got— was one reason. then you probably got those figures, but it probably got those figures, but i was— probably got those figures, but i ii— probably got those figures, but i i was— probably got those figures, but it was it was just— probably got those figures, but it was it was just fun to do. koa— it was it was just fun to do. voa know.— it was it was just fun to do. you know, mark— it was it was just fun to do. you know, mark i really thought at you know, mark i really thought ai—iasi- you know, mark i really thought ai—iasi nawingl at the time i was just having a gooi— at the time i was just having a gooi iins— at the time i was just having a gooi iins. iai— at the time i was just having a good time. but it— at the time i was just having a good time. but it turns out i isarnsi— good time. but it turns out i learned stuff— good time. but it turns out i learned stuff later , only

learned stuff later, only i rsaiissi— learned stuff later, only i realised that— learned stuff later, only i realised that i— learned stuff later, only i realised that i was i was asiaaiiy— realised that i was i was actually did— realised that i was i was actually did learn things. you know.— actually did learn things. you know. yoa— actually did learn things. you know, you learn— actually did learn things. you know, you learn about the isgaiiiiss— know, you learn about the legalities of— know, you learn about the legalities of things, you legalities of things, what you sanl— legalities of things, what you sanl wnai— legalities of things, what you sanl wnai yoa- legalities of things, what you can , what you can't say, to can say, what you can't say, to now— can say, what you can't say, to now-nsonis— can say, what you can't say, to now-nsonis. now- can say, what you can't say, to how people, how to deal how treat people, how to deal wisn— how treat people, how to deal win-yoa— how treat people, how to deal with -you know, - how treat people, how to deal| with -you know, .to how treat people, how to deal- with -you know,-to how with people you know, how to how to with people you know, how to how is nays— with people you know, how to how is naws a— with people you know, how to how is naws a gooi— with people you know, how to how to have a good time,— with people you know, how to how to have a good time, how to be a isan— to have a good time, how to be a isan nsrnsri— to have a good time, how to be a team member. certainly on tv. koa— team member. certainly on tv. isa—as- you know this as well as anyioiy— you know this as well asi anyioiy—ins you know this as well as- anybody._the front anybody. you may be the front mani— anybody. you may be the front nan-insss— anybody. you may be the front man,-there's a— anybody. you may be the front man, there's a whole lot of man, but there's a whole lot of nsonis— man, but there's a whole lot of nsonis-yoa— man, but there's a whole lot of people you making it people behind you making it work.— people behind you making it work. ris— people behind you making it work. it's not— people behind you making it work. it's not just you. you siinsr— work. it's not just you. you either-know,- work. it's not just you. you either-know, thei either get, you know, the iriskiais— either get, you know, the brickbats or— either get, you know, the brickbats or the bouquets. wnaiswsr-s— brickbats or the bouquets. whatever's your brickbats or the bouquets. whatever's-your but whatever's coming your way. but it's whatever's coming your way. but its ins— whatever's coming your way. but its is wnois— whatever's coming your way. but it's the whole team _ whatever's coming your way. but it's the whole team you're it's the whole team and you're iasi— it's the whole team and you're iasi-oi— it's the whole team and you're iasi-oi ins— it's the whole team and you're just of the iceberg, just the tip of the iceberg, took _ just the tip of the iceberg, ioo. rignis — just the tip of the iceberg, too, right? and- just the tip of the iceberg, too, right? ' 12»2 »2.»2»2. just the tip of the iceberg,- too, right? and of course , when too, right? and of course, when you at radio one, that you were at radio one, that was a golden for the network. a golden era for the network. you were king breakfast a golden era for the network. you iane king breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army king breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army ofig breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans and kfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans and the .t with an army of fans and the likes of yourself and simon bates and all of those legends. you know, you were the rock stars of your era . do you think stars of your era. do you think radio is still the art form it once was? mike uh , i think it's once was? mike uh, i think it's more straitjacketed now . and i more straitjacketed now. and i listened to it. i hear- 22 and i listened to it. i hear people inai— listened to it. i hear people in ion-i— listened to it. i hear people that don't have— listened to it. i hear people that don't have a say. one of ins— that don't have a say. one of is grsai— that don't have a say. one of the great things— that don't have a say. one of the great things was that you , the great things was that you, you— the great things was that you, yoa nisk— the great things was that you, yoa nisk ins— the great things was that you, you pick the music and. and i siiii— you pick the music and. and i siiii io— you pick the music and. and i still do breakfast— you pick the music and. and i still do breakfast of various

snows— still do breakfast of various snows-in— still do breakfast of various shows-in the- still do breakfast of various shows-in the uk- still do breakfast of various shows in the uk and canada. shows now in the uk and canada. but shows now in the uk and canada. iai in— shows now in the uk and canada. iai i-n iasky— shows now in the uk and canada. iai i-n iasky i— shows now in the uk and canada. but i'm lucky i get— shows now in the uk and canada. but i'm lucky i get to pick the sis— but i'm lucky i get to pick the ani— but i'm lucky i get to pick the ani ii— but i'm lucky i get to pick the music and if you've got ears. sonsioiy— music and if you've got ears. somebody said— music and if you've got ears. somebody said to me recently, yos— somebody said to me recently, yos an ask— somebody said to me recently, you're an a&r man , you're you're an a&r man, you're a rssori— you're an a&r man, you're a rssori sonnany— you're an a&r man, you're a record company, as well as being on-you're listening- on the radio, you're listening to on the radio, you're listening is sis— on the radio, you're listening is .— on the radio, you're listening to music . you— on the radio, you're listening to music . you know, three years to music. you know, three years ago— to music. you know, three years ago|srsaisi— to music. you know, three years ago icreated the _ to music. you know, three years ago created the heritage chart ago i created the heritage chart issaass—a ioi- because there were a lot of nsriiags— because there were a lot of heritage artists— because there were a lot of heritage artists still making grsai— heritage artists still making great-weren't- heritage artists still making great weren't being great music, weren't being isasnsi— great music, weren't being touched-major- great music, weren't being touched major stations . touched by the major stations. ani— touched by the major stations. ani insy— touched by the major stations. ani iasy sai.— touched by the major stations. and they said, you know, the ink— and they said, you know, the wisk-snows- and they said, you know, the nick - shows the - and they said, you know, the nick shows the paul nick hewer shows the paul voangs.— nick hewer shows the paul koangs. ins— nick hewer shows the paul youngs, the kim wills, the nowari— youngs, the kim wills, the howard jones. _ youngs, the kim wills, the howard jones. well, what do we iss—gos— howard jones. well, what do we iss—goi so- howard jones. well, what do we do?_go? so three. do.7 what do we go.7 so three years— do? what do we go? so three years-anniversary. do? what do we go? so three years anniversary is years ago, the anniversary is coming— years ago, the anniversary is coming-july. - years ago, the anniversary is coming-july. .- years ago, the anniversary is coming july. i started the coming up in july. i started the heritage— coming up in july. i started the heritage chart— coming up in july. i started the heritage chart and we're on the 66th— heritage chart and we're on the aah-this— heritage chart and we're on the 66th-this week- heritage chart and we're on the 66th-this week as- heritage chart and we're on the 66th this week as well . so 66th show this week as well. so that-s— 66th show this week as well. so that-s what— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one it's— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one it's been a good shot— that's what one it's been a good shot window— that's what one it's been a good shot window .those - that's what one it's been a good shot window those artists. shot window for those artists. so shot window for those artists. so yeah— shot window for those artists. so yeah .— shot window for those artists. so yeah , h-ve— shot window for those artists. so yeah , i've always liked to be so yeah, i've always liked to be hvahea— so yeah, i've always liked to be hvahea aha— so yeah, i've always liked to be involved and i— so yeah, i've always liked to be involved and i think lot of involved and i think a lot of radio— involved and i think a lot of radio haw— involved and i think a lot of radio now,-can't- involved and i think a lot of radio now, can't be involved radio now, you can't be involved -_vou_ radio now, you can't be involved .—yaa gea- . they don't let you get hvahea— . they don't let you get involved you're is . they don't let you get- involvediyou're-is what involved. you're this is what playing— involved. you're this is what phayhg .— involved. you're this is what we're playing , this is what we're playing, this is what wee-ahe- we're playing, this is whati we're-this-we we're playing, this is what- we're-this-we do we're doing, this is how we do it. we're doing, this is how we do h. aha— we're doing, this is how we do h. aha h— we're doing, this is how we do it. and i think— we're doing, this is how we do it. and i think that would haehaae— it. and i think that would frustrate me— it. and i think that would frustrate me enormously. see the heritage— frustrate me enormously. see the heritage-a— frustrate me enormously. see the heritage a fabulous, heritage chart is a fabulous, fabulous legacy of yours, and it can found at heritage chart. can be found at heritage chart. .co.uk highly recommend . ed,

.co.uk highly recommend. ed, let's talk about the current world of radio. what do you make of ken bruce leaving radio two after all those years? i have it, mike on good authority that he wasn't really offered a new contract i wouldn't know. so i really can't comment. ff : " c so i really can't comment. you know, we aah— really can't comment. you know, we only comment— really can't comment. you know, we only comment on stuff we see on we only comment on stuff we see an eaehah— we only comment on stuff we see an eaehah heaha— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or in— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or in the media. so on social media or in the media. so h— on social media or in the media. so h really— on social media or in the media. so i really don't— on social media or in the media. so i really don't know. ken's aways— so i really don't know. ken's ahwaye heeh— so i really don't know. ken's always been a— so i really don't know. ken's always been a great broadcaster . hee— always been a great broadcaster . he-e aahe— always been a great broadcaster . he-e done a— always been a great broadcaster . he's done a great— always been a great broadcaster . he's done a great job at radio two:— . he's done a great job at radio two, sometimes— . he's done a great job at radio two, sometimes it's, oh, there he he. — two, sometimes it's, oh, there he he. leah— two, sometimes it's, oh, there he is. look, some— two, sometimes it's, oh, there he is. look, some times you knew,— he is. look, some times you knew, he— he is. look, some times you know, it's time— he is. look, some times you know, it's time to- he is. look, some times you know, it's time to move on. it's time— know, it's time to move on. it's time he— know, it's time to move on. it's time he 90— know, it's time to move on. it's time to go somewhere else. you hhe— time to go somewhere else. you hhe-hhe— time to go somewhere else. you hhe-hhe a— time to go somewhere else. you like like a footballer , like anyone, like a footballer, vou— like anyone, like a footballer, you knew,— like anyone, like a footballer, you knew, you— like anyone, like a footballer, you know, you think, oh, you knew— you know, you think, oh, you knew .— you know, you think, oh, you knew , mayhe— you know, you think, oh, you know , maybe -to l you know, you think, oh, you. know , maybe -to move know, maybe it's time to move on.-move on before- know, maybe it's time to move on. move on before you're on. do you move on before you're hushed— on. do you move on before you're pushed a— on. do you move on before you're pushed or whatever? i don't know.— pushed or whatever? i don't knew-hat— pushed or whatever? i don't know.-but he's- pushed or whatever? i don't know. but he's found know. i mean, but he's found a new—he— know. i mean, but he's found a new—he eaahae- know. i mean, but he's found a new he sounds quite new home and he sounds quite happy— new home and he sounds quite happy-so— new home and he sounds quite happy-50 that's- new home and he sounds quite happy so that's always happy on it. so that's always good. — happy on it. so that's always good. he— happy on it. so that's always good. it's when _ happy on it. so that's always good. it's when you're not doing what— good. it's when you're not doing what you— good. it's when you're not doing whah you have.— good. it's when you're not doing what you love. one— good. it's when you're not doing what you love. one one thing i ah— what you love. one one thing i ah ae— what you love. one one thing i ah he heehhe— what you love. one one thing i talk to people about in radio aha— talk to people about in radio and they— talk to people about in radio and they say— talk to people about in radio and they say it's— talk to people about in radio and they say it's we're doing a joh— and they say it's we're doing a job- we— and they say it's we're doing a job- we have— and they say it's we're doing a job- we have h— and they say it's we're doing a job. we love in a— and they say it's we're doing a job. we love in a way that we aah-a— job. we love in a way that we aah-a .— job. we love in a way that we aah-a , aha— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that is— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that is frustrating. don't, and that is frustrating. i don't, and that is frustrating. h ahhh— don't, and that is frustrating. h ahhh ha— don't, and that is frustrating. i think i'd never— don't, and that is frustrating. i think i'd never really want to do i think i'd never really want to he that. — i think i'd never really want to he that. heu—

i think i'd never really want to do that. tell me— i think i'd never really want to do that. tell me about your haaeea— do that. tell me about your latest project,— do that. tell me about your latest project, a— do that. tell me about your latest project, a brand new book out latest project, a brand new book eat h— latest project, a brand new book aah h july— latest project, a brand new book aah h july .— latest project, a brand new book out in july . yeah,— latest project, a brand new book out in july . yeah, it's a series out in july. yeah, it's a series of hooke— out in july. yeah, it's a series of haahe. rh— out in july. yeah, it's a series of books. i'm doing six books on aahaaeaha— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years of— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years of a london sheet— a thousand years of a london etteet .— a thousand years of a london etteet . .— a thousand years of a london etteet . . hat— a thousand years of a london street . i had denmark street out street. i had denmark street out .that,— street. i had denmark street out .that, a— street. i had denmark street out .that, a matte— street. i had denmark street out , what, a couple of— street. i had denmark street out , what, a couple of years ago, cheahette— , what, a couple of years ago, cheapside comes— , what, a couple of years ago, cheapside comes out. that's it is cheapside comes out. that's it he a— cheapside comes out. that's it is a thousand— cheapside comes out. that's it is a thousand years of cheapside wtth— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a tat— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a tat at— is a thousand years of cheapside with a lot of characters who are in with a lot of characters who are th e,— with a lot of characters who are in it, including— with a lot of characters who are in it, including two— in it, including two broadcasters. we can see in it, including two— broadcasters. we can see there. so broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah that-e— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah, that's out— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand— so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand years— so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand years of cheapside . and thousand years of cheapside. and then— thousand years of cheapside. and then the— thousand years of cheapside. and then the heat— thousand years of cheapside. and then the next one— thousand years of cheapside. and then the next one is a thousand years— then the next one is a thousand yeate at— then the next one is a thousand years of piccadilly— then the next one is a thousand years of piccadilly . it's great years of piccadilly. it's great tan— years of piccadilly. it's great tea to— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta .— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta . .— years of piccadilly. it's great fun to do . i love— years of piccadilly. it's great fun to do . i love it. i've fun to do. i love it. i've atwaye— fun to do. i love it. i've always been— fun to do. i love it. i've always been a- fun to do. i love it. i've always been a historian. i've teen— always been a historian. i've been ah— always been a historian. i've been on archaeological digs shee— been on archaeological digs .— been on archaeological digs . wa— been on archaeological digs since i was eight, seven, eight years— since i was eight, seven, eight yeate att. — since i was eight, seven, eight yeate att. uh,— since i was eight, seven, eight years old. um, so— since i was eight, seven, eight years old. um, so i've always tene— years old. um, so i've always done that.— years old. um, so i've always done that. i've— years old. um, so i've always done that. i've always been on stage— done that. i've always been on stage she— done that. i've always been on stage since eight— done that. i've always been on stage since eight as well, which aaah— stage since eight as well, which agah ghee— stage since eight as well, which agah ghee yaw— stage since eight as well, which agah ghee yet a— stage since eight as well, which again gives you a good doing archaeological— again gives you a good doing archaeological digs. being on stage— archaeological digs. being on etage ghee— archaeological digs. being on etage ghee yew— archaeological digs. being on stage gives you a good sort of at— stage gives you a good sort of sense of playing— stage gives you a good sort of sense of playing in a team and a bit sense of playing in a team and a htt at— sense of playing in a team and a bit of confidence— sense of playing in a team and a bit of confidence and a bit of thewtetae— bit of confidence and a bit of thewtetge ae— bit of confidence and a bit of knowledge as well. but no, i tave— knowledge as well. but no, i have tethe— knowledge as well. but no, i love doing these— knowledge as well. but no, i love doing these books. it's great.— love doing these books. it's great. whe— love doing these books. it's great. mike is— love doing these books. it's great. mike is thrilled to have you— great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew.— great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew. — great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew. twe- great. mike is thrilled to have you show. 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thanks for joining us on mark dolan tonight. thank you very much— dolan tonight. thank you very much watt.— dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark-you- dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark.-you . - dolan tonight. thank you very. much, mark.-you . there dolan tonight. thank you very- much, mark.-you . there you much, mark. thank you. there you go. much, mark. thank you. there you 90- whe— much, mark. thank you. there you go. mike reads. i you what, go. mike reads. i tell you what, what list we've had what a cast list we've had tonight. excited the tonight. very excited about the next hour because kim woodburn joins us live. let's talk about holly willoughby. is it right that she's going back to this morning? we're told she'll be on set on monday. is that the right thing to do? do you believe that she knew nothing? i'll be asking kim that. but at kim woodburn about that. but at 10:00, the long awaited 10:00, it's the long awaited take at ten in which i'll be deaung take at ten in which i'll be dealing with phillip schofield following his bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i don't buy his crocodile tears , is my reaction crocodile tears, is my reaction in just a couple of minutes. first, the headlines .

it's 10:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i'm not buying phillip schofield's crocodile tears. tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping some more truth bombs about the schofield saga, particularly how much holly willoughby may or may not have known . and mark dolan tonight is known. and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp . exactly 1030 sharp. plus, my top pundits as well who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. but my schofield monologue is in coming . put

but my schofield monologue is in coming. put your but my schofield monologue is in coming . put your hats on, folks. coming. put your hats on, folks. it's going to be a lively ride, a busy hour to come. first, the headunes a busy hour to come. first, the headlines with bethany elsey . headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you. here's your top stores— mark, thank you. here's your top etattee hath — mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the— mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the gb— here's your top stories from the gb news room. hatte— stories from the gb news room. hath yehheah— stories from the gb news room. boris johnson says— stories from the gb news room. boris johnson says he sent all whtetaetet— boris johnson says he sent all unredacted whatsapp messages ttteetty— unredacted whatsapp messages ttteetty ta — unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the— unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry , directly to the covid inquiry, hyhaeehg— directly to the covid inquiry, hyhaeehg the— directly to the covid inquiry, bypassing the cabinet office . bypassing the cabinet office. the — bypassing the cabinet office. the tether— bypassing the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the hawtty— the former prime minister told the inquiry chair— the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to the inquiry chair he would like ta ta— the inquiry chair he would like ta to the— the inquiry chair he would like to do the same— the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an to do the same with messages on ah-hhehe.— to do the same with messages on ah-hhehe. he— to do the same with messages on an-phone. he used- to do the same with messages on an phone. he used before may an old phone. he used before may m.— an old phone. he used before may zozt. hat— an old phone. he used before may zozt. hat tt-e— an old phone. he used before may 2021. but it's locked— an old phone. he used before may 2021. but it's locked due to eeewtty— 2021. but it's locked due to security concerns. it's after the— security concerns. it's after the hawtty— security concerns. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing— the inquiry announced it's hhhghg a— the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge aaahet— bringing a legal challenge agahet the— bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it against the cabinet office after tt hteeet— against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hatt— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's heeeaeee aha— to hand over all mrjohnson's messages and diaries . at least messages and diaries. at least 80 messages and diaries. at least so heathe— messages and diaries. at least so heehte have— messages and diaries. at least 80 people have now been killed and eso— 80 people have now been killed and 850 injured— 80 people have now been killed and 850 injured after two haeeeheet— and 850 injured after two passenger trains collided in theta.— passenger trains collided in htta. the— passenger trains collided in india. the coromandel express, whteh— india. the coromandel express, whteh whe— india. the coromandel express, which runs from _ india. the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chehhah— which runs from calcutta to chennai, crashed into the howrah

satettaet— chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express— chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state— superfast express in the eastern state at— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha .— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show heathe— state of odisha. videos show people climbing— state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled eawtaeea— people climbing over the toppled eawtaeea ae— people climbing over the toppled carriages as the _ people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were cathet— carriages as the injured were eawtet ta— carriages as the injured were carried to ambulances . officials carried to ambulances. officials say the— carried to ambulances. officials say the wheat— carried to ambulances. officials say the number of— carried to ambulances. officials say the number of fatality is expected— say the number of fatality is expected to — say the number of fatality is expected to rise— say the number of fatality is expected to rise .— say the number of fatality is expected to rise . phillip expected to rise. phillip schofield— expected to rise. phillip schofield says he believes the outrage— schofield says he believes the outrage over— schofield says he believes the outrage over his— schofield says he believes the outrage over his affair with a younger— outrage over his affair with a younger hate— outrage over his affair with a younger male colleague has been twettet— younger male colleague has been twettet hy— younger male colleague has been fuelled by homophobia. the tether— fuelled by homophobia. the former this— fuelled by homophobia. the former this morning host says he teete— former this morning host says he feels ashamed— former this morning host says he feels ashamed and— former this morning host says he feels ashamed and that he's teehetatety— feels ashamed and that he's desperately sorry about the attah— desperately sorry about the attah hat— desperately sorry about the affair, but insists the relationship was consensual and that— relationship was consensual and that he— relationship was consensual and that he that— relationship was consensual and that he didn't groom him in an htewtew— that he didn't groom him in an interview with— that he didn't groom him in an interview with the— that he didn't groom him in an interview with the bbc, he athtttet— interview with the bbc, he admitted his— interview with the bbc, he admitted his career is now over aha— admitted his career is now over and that— admitted his career is now over and that het— admitted his career is now over and that he'd lost— admitted his career is now over and that he'd lost everything but and that he'd lost everything hat eat— and that he'd lost everything hat eatt h— and that he'd lost everything but said if he'd— and that he'd lost everything but said if he'd had an affair wtth— but said if he'd had an affair wtth a— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman ,_ but said if he'd had an affair with a woman , it— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman , it wouldn't have with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh— with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh each— with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh each a— with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big— with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big scandal. with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big scandal . a 19 been such a big scandal. a 19 year— been such a big scandal. a 19 yeat att— been such a big scandal. a 19 year ett hae— been such a big scandal. a 19 year old has been— been such a big scandal. a 19 year old has been sentenced to the— year old has been sentenced to the h— year old has been sentenced to the th when— year old has been sentenced to life in prison with— year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum teth— life in prison with a minimum team at— life in prison with a minimum team at eh— life in prison with a minimum term of six years— life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading awttty— term of six years after pleading gwttty ta— term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attache— guilty to planning terror attacks on— guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and httttaty— attacks on the police and httttaty .— attacks on the police and military . matthew king from military. matthew king from they— military. matthew king from essex converted _ military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and heathe— essex converted to islam and became radicalised during the

cowh— became radicalised during the covid lockdown. _ became radicalised during the covid lockdown. the judge htateet— covid lockdown. the judge htateet hh— covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother. he reported hth— praised his mother. he reported hhh ta— praised his mother. he reported hhh to the— praised his mother. he reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism programme, eayha— counter—terrorism programme, eayha ht— counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't— counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy— saying it couldn't have been easy hat— saying it couldn't have been eaey hat wae— saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the ttaht— easy but was absolutely the heht thha— easy but was absolutely the heht that to— easy but was absolutely the right thing to do . 20 people right thing to do. 20 people have— right thing to do. 20 people have hw— right thing to do. 20 people have now been— right thing to do. 20 people have now been arrested in tetattah— have now been arrested in tetattah ta— have now been arrested in relation to the— have now been arrested in relation to the riots that tattawet — relation to the riots that followed a _ relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teehaaete— followed a crash in which two teenagers were— followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cath— teenagers were killed in cardiff. the _ teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees swttwah— cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and _ cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who te— sullivan and harvey evans, who te aha— sullivan and harvey evans, who were 16 and 15,— sullivan and harvey evans, who were 16 and 15, sparked violence aha— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and theater— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely and disorder on the streets of tty attet— and disorder on the streets of ely after claims— and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were hatewet— ely after claims they were hatewet hy— ely after claims they were pursued by police . cctv video pursued by police. cctv video ehawe— pursued by police. cctv video ehawe the— pursued by police. cctv video shows the boys— pursued by police. cctv video shows the boys on an e—bike tethe— shows the boys on an e—bike being followed— shows the boys on an e—bike being followed by a police van. 15 being followed by a police van. h attteete— being followed by a police van. 15 officers were _ being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in the hate— 15 officers were injured in the hate aha— 15 officers were injured in the riots and more— 15 officers were injured in the riots and more disruption for holidaymakers— riots and more disruption for holidaymakers this summer as eeewtty— holidaymakers this summer as security guards— holidaymakers this summer as security guards at heathrow theat— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike aettah.— airport announce further strike aettah. uhtte— airport announce further strike action. unite the— airport announce further strike action. unite the union says its hehehte— action. unite the union says its hehehte wttt— action. unite the union says its members will stage 33 days of thtwetttat— members will stage 33 days of industrial action— members will stage 33 days of industrial action in a dispute hay— industrial action in a dispute hay .— industrial action in a dispute hay . the— industrial action in a dispute over pay . the walkouts will take over pay. the walkouts will take htaee— over pay. the walkouts will take the athaet— over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every— over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from mid-june— place almost every weekend from mid-june ta— place almost every weekend from mid—june to the— place almost every weekend from mid—june to the end of august. vat-te— mid—june to the end of august. vat-e wh— mid—june to the end of august. vat-e up to— mid—june to the end of august. you're up to date—

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offering mild words of support for sex. liar phillip schofield with tv sidekick derren brown tweeting the following. he wrote , i must be i must be morally dim . i don't see why a tv dim. i don't see why a tv presenter intimate business should lead to public persecution makes me so uncomfy . double having to ask friends why anything terrible has happened , why it warrants such happened, why it warrants such shaming , and happened, why it warrants such shaming, and why it's supposed to be endlessly my business. wow well, he must have been under hypnosis when he tweeted that one. there's also alison hammond, of whom i, by the way, a huge fan crying her eyes out about how much she still loves phil . and then there's former phil. and then there's former bbc star richard bacon, who says it's bbc star richard bacon, who says wsfime bbc star richard bacon, who says it's time to end the pylon . it's time to end the pylon. about the only celebrity that hasn't spoken out is schofield's former colleague gordon the gofer who schofield fingered for over a decade . today saw the

over a decade. today saw the predictable interview with a major national newspaper in this case, the sun. surprise, surprise . as schofield made it surprise. as schofield made it all about himself. i'm broken. i'm gutted . all about himself. i'm broken. i'm gutted. i'm all about himself. i'm broken. i'm gutted . i'm devastated. me, i'm gutted. i'm devastated. me, me , me. he said. i'll never be me, me. he said. i'll never be able to walk down the road again. i get teased at the butchers about jumping the queue because of the queens funeral . because of the queens funeral. in fact, schofield even goes as far as to say i've had a two years. have you indeed had two years. have you indeed had two years of lucrative television work? two years of commercial endorsements , award ceremonies, endorsements, award ceremonies, showbiz events, champagne and caviar . how showbiz events, champagne and caviar. how does that compare to ordinary viewers of this morning? who are still emotionally and financially punched , drunk from the punched, drunk from the pandemic, have got to deal with spiralling interest rates , spiralling interest rates, exploding rents and a cost of living crisis in which you now have to take out a loan just to buy a loaf of bread. but no, phil's had a. two years. scoffs

field wonders what he's going to do next. well, i don't know. maybe count your money, phil? yes the star's media career is likely over, and this may be an overreaction. it may be too harsh, but unlike many in this country, he won't go hungry . country, he won't go hungry. now, schofield did hint about suicidal thoughts . and of suicidal thoughts. and of course, that is a deep worry. for that, he should receive support both from family and friends and a professional in getting that support. we wish him well , but getting that support. we wish him well, but i'm not buying the sob story . i him well, but i'm not buying the sob story. i don't buy him well, but i'm not buying the sob story . i don't buy the sob story. i don't buy the crocodile tears . it's his wife crocodile tears. it's his wife and kids who he lied to so egregiously, whose tears are justified. he thinks this is even an example of homophobia. take a listen . if it was take a listen. if it was a heterosexual— c tact?" if it was a heterosexual relationship , 0 50:7“ if it was a heterosexual relationship , then heterosexual relationship, then you heterosexual relationship, then yaw thaw,— heterosexual relationship, then you knew ht— heterosexual relationship, then you know, it would have been a bit you know, it would have been a htt et— you know, it would have been a htt at hatte— you know, it would have been a bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . if bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h tt-e— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h he a— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h he a gay— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . if it's a gay relationship , . if it's a gay relationship, theh— . if it's a gay relationship, then suddenly— . if it's a gay relationship, then suddenly it raises eyebrows . tt-e— then suddenly it raises eyebrows . he want— then suddenly it raises eyebrows

. tt-e twaha te— then suddenly it raises eyebrows . it's wrong. is predominantly hhh— . it's wrong. is predominantly obe homophobia really ? 0: obe homophobia really? i'll be honest.— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. tt-e— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. tt-e hy— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. it's my view— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. it's my view that if a male presenter met a 15 year old girl and exchanged multiple messages at that time, which i think is creepy and then helped her get into tv and then had sex with her, it would be a huge story, possibly even bigger than this one. what's he on about? there was a clear power imbalance between schofield and this poor lad who we are told is now pulling pints in a northern pub.and now pulling pints in a northern pub. and given that the relationship became a full one, it's hard to see how that power wasn't abused and what of willoughby? well, in my view, the halo has slipped for little miss perfect . but as the public miss perfect. but as the public tried to get their heads around the idea that she didn't know something was going on between phil and his, much younger itv colleague , it doesn't add up . colleague, it doesn't add up. this young lad had been in tv

for approximately 11 minutes before appearing on stage at the 2018 national television awards, much to the irritation of other colleagues . he enjoyed cameos as colleagues. he enjoyed cameos as an elf on the christmas special and the mail report that he didn't do much tv producing. instead said he was hanging around with phil and celebrity guests . this around with phil and celebrity guests. this most junior member of staff gets elevated to that status on a show like this morning, and there are no questions . do me a favour, questions. do me a favour, willoughby hasn't commented today as she reaches the tail end of her portuguese holiday in what the sun report is her £8 million bolthole. nice work. if you can get it . million bolthole. nice work. if you can get it. in the end, i think a lot of the vitriol towards schofield is a broader issue about the media elite and these smug millionaires patronised you and talking down to you every day on tv. i think the public have had enough of tv fakes like phillip schofield ,

fakes like phillip schofield, who pretend to be the lovely guy next door but are anything but. this story reflects the slow motion car crash that is established media and its ever increasing corporate and woke messaging . mark my words, philip messaging. mark my words, philip will be the first of many. the elite will fall and i can't wait. bring popcorn . is wait. bring popcorn. is schofield the victim of a witch hunt? is he a victim of homophobia? mark gb news .com. reacting to my take at ten, my top pundits tonight, author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator lizzie zita and radio and tv broadcaster, fleet street legend mike porky parry. lizzie zita, do you buy phillip schofield's crocodile tears ? no, no, no, i crocodile tears? no, no, no, i aah-t— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i tah-t .— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i tah-t. .— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i tah-t. . aah-t.— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i don't. i don't. i've- ff: , no, no, no, i don't. i don't. i've worked tatte— don't. i don't. i've worked awtte a— don't. i don't. i've worked awhte a tat— don't. i don't. i've worked quite a lot at— don't. i don't. i've worked quite a lot at itv , and i'm very quite a lot at itv, and i'm very etaee— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very thee to— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very close to somebody— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very close to somebody who also worked— close to somebody who also worked there _ close to somebody who also worked there .— close to somebody who also worked there . what happened worked there. what happened there— worked there. what happened thete wae— worked there. what happened there was absolutely dreadful.

there— there was absolutely dreadful. thete wae— there was absolutely dreadful. thete a— there was absolutely dreadful. there was a massive amount of bullying-— there was a massive amount of hattyhg. thha— there was a massive amount of bullying. emma gormley and also matth— bullying. emma gormley and also hath tttzett— bullying. emma gormley and also martin frizell ,_ bullying. emma gormley and also martin frizell , when they martin frizell, when they attwet, — martin frizell, when they arrived, there _ martin frizell, when they arrived, there was a massive catt— arrived, there was a massive eat at— arrived, there was a massive eat at heathe— arrived, there was a massive cull of people at— arrived, there was a massive cull of people at itv, people hawet— cull of people at itv, people moved sideways. _ cull of people at itv, people moved sideways. they were sacked . theta— moved sideways. they were sacked . thett hh— moved sideways. they were sacked . their job titles— moved sideways. they were sacked . their job titles were moved sideways. they were sacked . theirjob titles were changed . their job titles were changed so . their job titles were changed ea that— . their job titles were changed ea that they— . their job titles were changed so that they could sack the pr why— so that they could sack the pr why the — so that they could sack the pr why the heathe— so that they could sack the pr why the people, the freelancers tehe. — why the people, the freelancers were long. lots— why the people, the freelancers were long. lots and lots and tate— were long. lots and lots and tate at— were long. lots and lots and tete at heathe— were long. lots and lots and lots of people were gotten rid of lots of people were gotten rid at aha— lots of people were gotten rid at and they— lots of people were gotten rid at and they eat— lots of people were gotten rid of and they got the people in that— of and they got the people in that they— of and they got the people in that they wanted _ of and they got the people in that they wanted to get in. and the— that they wanted to get in. and thte-thha— that they wanted to get in. and this emma gormley said, this is after emma gormley said, oh, this is after emma gormley said, oht-i5_ this is after emma gormley said, hh-te atwaye- this is after emma gormley said, oh,-is always open.- oh, my door is always open. heathe— oh, my door is always open. heehte that— oh, my door is always open. people that i— oh, my door is always open. people that i know who went to her people that i know who went to he aha— people that i know who went to he and hate— people that i know who went to her and made a— people that i know who went to her and made a complaint about the hattytha— her and made a complaint about the bullying were— her and made a complaint about the bullying were pushed out. so ewetyththe— the bullying were pushed out. so ewetythha .— the bullying were pushed out. so everything i have— the bullying were pushed out. so everything i have to take my hat off everything i have to take my hat ah ta— everything i have to take my hat ah ta tahahh— everything i have to take my hat off to eamonn holmes because everything— off to eamonn holmes because ewetythhe that— off to eamonn holmes because everything that man said was aheatwtety— everything that man said was absolutely true— everything that man said was absolutely true and he was one of absolutely true and he was one at the— absolutely true and he was one at the tew— absolutely true and he was one of the few people _ absolutely true and he was one of the few people who went round to theee — of the few people who went round to theee heathe— of the few people who went round to these people who were being hate— to these people who were being made redundant— to these people who were being made redundant and said, what's going— made redundant and said, what's hehhe-th— made redundant and said, what's hehhe-hm teatty— made redundant and said, what's going-i'm really-to- going on? i'm really sorry to heat— going on? i'm really sorry to heat the. — going on? i'm really sorry to hear this. et— going on? i'm really sorry to hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so hear this. et cetera. et cetera. sa-tt-e— hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so-it's absolutely- hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so it's absolutely not so no, it's absolutely not homophobic— so no, it's absolutely not homophobic and it makes me sick that— homophobic and it makes me sick that h— homophobic and it makes me sick that h ht— homophobic and it makes me sick that it it wae— homophobic and it makes me sick that if it was a— homophobic and it makes me sick that if it was a female girl,

thee— that if it was a female girl, there would— that if it was a female girl, there would be— that if it was a female girl, there would be an even bigger aha-a— there would be an even bigger aha-a .— there would be an even bigger wteah . hate— there would be an even bigger uproar. i have to— there would be an even bigger uproar. i have to say that yee— uproar. i have to say that you're absolutely right. and the htehteh — you're absolutely right. and the htehteh hee— you're absolutely right. and the problem lies with— you're absolutely right. and the problem lies with bullying is with— problem lies with bullying is with the— problem lies with bullying is with the producers, not the crew , het— with the producers, not the crew , net the— with the producers, not the crew , net the teeth— with the producers, not the crew , not the people around, but with— , not the people around, but with the— , not the people around, but with the producers who allow theee— with the producers who allow theee heehte— with the producers who allow these people to— with the producers who allow these people to develop into heaa— these people to develop into heea gette— these people to develop into heea eete .— these people to develop into mega gods , these presenters. and mega gods, these presenters. and it's mega gods, these presenters. and he ewetyththa— mega gods, these presenters. and he ewetythhe te— mega gods, these presenters. and it's everything is about them . it's everything is about them. twetyththa— it's everything is about them. twetythhe te— it's everything is about them. everything is about them. and it's everything is about them. and he hath— everything is about them. and it's really wrong.— everything is about them. and it's really wrong. and incidentally,- it's really wrong. and incidentally, i think they ehewtt— incidentally, i think they should give _ incidentally, i think they should give that lad back his job should give that lad back his ieh h— should give that lad back his ieh it he— should give that lad back his job if he wants— should give that lad back his job if he wants to work in teteweteh— job if he wants to work in television again. and i think that— television again. and i think that heehte— television again. and i think that people should get together and that people should get together aht thy— that people should get together and try ahe— that people should get together and try and ee— that people should get together and try and sue itv for their teet— and try and sue itv for their teet wett— and try and sue itv for their lost work and— and try and sue itv for their lost work and being made redundant— lost work and being made redundant .— lost work and being made redundant. unfair dismissal heeawee— redundant. unfair dismissal heeawee tt-e— redundant. unfair dismissal because it's an— redundant. unfair dismissal because it's an absolute eeantat— because it's an absolute scandal. well- because it's an absolute scandal. well let me put it on heat— scandal. well let me put it on eeett that— scandal. well let me put it on record that i'm— scandal. well let me put it on record that i'm happy and i will heee— record that i'm happy and i will need te— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear it— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear it with the heeeee— need to clear it with the bosses, but— need to clear it with the bosses, but i'm in principle happy— bosses, but i'm in principle happy to_ bosses, but i'm in principle happy to offer— bosses, but i'm in principle happy to offer that a happy to offer that young man a job- — happy to offer that young man a job- on— happy to offer that young man a yet. oh-hetah— happy to offer that young man a job. on-dolan tonight- happy to offer that young man a job. o" i" 0:7“ g t:7�* happy to offer that young man a. job. on-dolan tonight on gb job. on mark dolan tonight on gb news. i know that producer greg will back this decision up because clearly, clearly he has been at the wrong end of this show biz drama. he's now out of work. well, he's pulling pints in a northern pub. love to in a northern pub. we'd love to have on mark dolan have him here on mark dolan tonight offer it,

tonight and that offer it, frankly, is one like to frankly, is one i'd like to develop explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deve to» explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deve to his explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people re. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if hisf that gets to his people or if his friends find out, then pass on that message because i think he should be working in very should be working in tv very strange. lisa mckenzie that that in a quite defensive interview with the bbc, schofield said that there is no toxic culture at this morning. i mean, that there is no toxic culture at this morning . i mean, when at this morning. i mean, when i watched— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that,— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i kind— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i kind of- g i mean, when i watched that, i kind of thought two watched that, i kind of thought twe ththee. — watched that, i kind of thought two things. you— watched that, i kind of thought two things. you know, this is the— two things. you know, this is the meet— two things. you know, this is the most human— two things. you know, this is the most human i've ever seen. thith— the most human i've ever seen. phillip schofield— the most human i've ever seen. phillip schofield called because he hethatty— phillip schofield called because he normally doesn't look very human — he normally doesn't look very human vea— he normally doesn't look very human. you know, he looks very , human. you know, he looks very, i human. you know, he looks very, . teh-t— human. you know, he looks very, . teh-t thew,— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake .— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake . and all of i don't know, fake. and all of a ewtteh— i don't know, fake. and all of a ewtteh hh— i don't know, fake. and all of a sudden his wrinkles are showing and he— sudden his wrinkles are showing and hte white— sudden his wrinkles are showing and his white hair— sudden his wrinkles are showing and his white hair and he's teehtha— and his white hair and he's teehtha at— and his white hair and he's looking at older— and his white hair and he's looking at older. um, yeah . and looking at older. um, yeah. and then— looking at older. um, yeah. and then the— looking at older. um, yeah. and then the homophobic thing as wet.— then the homophobic thing as wet. th— then the homophobic thing as wett. t-h het— then the homophobic thing as well. i'm not buying that. and the eaee— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm not— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm not buying that is the reason i'm not buying that he heeawee— the reason i'm not buying that he heeawee hy— the reason i'm not buying that is because my mate, my best hate,— is because my mate, my best mate whe— is because my mate, my best mate whe te— is because my mate, my best mate, who is a— is because my mate, my best mate, who is a gay man, said heh— mate, who is a gay man, said tteh hay— mate, who is a gay man, said tteh tay ee— mate, who is a gay man, said from day one, phillip schofield is from day one, phillip schofield te het— from day one, phillip schofield te het have— from day one, phillip schofield is not brave coming out as a 61 year— is not brave coming out as a 61 yeat eta— is not brave coming out as a 61 year ett hah— is not brave coming out as a 61 year ett .— is not brave coming out as a 61 year old man , he— is not brave coming out as a 61 year old man , he says, i'm year old man, he says, i'm have— year old man, he says, i'm have .— year old man, he says, i'm have . ahe— year old man, he says, i'm brave. i came out in the 1980s

as brave. i came out in the 1980s ae a te— brave. i came out in the 1980s ae a te yea— brave. i came out in the 1980s as a 16 year old— brave. i came out in the 1980s as a 16 year old lad in an ex—hththa— as a 16 year old lad in an ex—mining community. that's htawety— ex—mining community. that's htawety .— ex—mining community. that's htawety . aha,— ex—mining community. that's bravery . and, you know , a lot of bravery. and, you know, a lot of the— bravery. and, you know, a lot of the gay— bravery. and, you know, a lot of the gay community— bravery. and, you know, a lot of the gay community are not of ewhhett— the gay community are not of support supporting philip's sehettett.— support supporting philip's schofield. so— support supporting philip's schofield. so i'm not you know, i schofield. so i'm not you know, tththh— schofield. so i'm not you know, tththh the— schofield. so i'm not you know, i think the homophobic stuff is , ise— i think the homophobic stuff is , te yew— i think the homophobic stuff is , he, yew thew,— i think the homophobic stuff is , is, you know, it's— i think the homophobic stuff is , is, you know, it's a reach, ten-t— , is, you know, it's a reach, teh-t ht— , is, you know, it's a reach, teh-t tt .— , is, you know, it's a reach, isn't it , michael,- , is, you know, it's a reach, isn't it, michael, you've had to decipher— isn't it, michael, you've had to teethhet the— isn't it, michael, you've had to decipher the personality traits of decipher the personality traits et ee— decipher the personality traits et et— decipher the personality traits of some of the— decipher the personality traits of some of the most famous heehte— of some of the most famous heehte th— of some of the most famous heehte th the— of some of the most famous people in the world politicians, p0p— people in the world politicians, hep eta— people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors— people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors ,_ people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors , you name it. pop stars, actors, you name it. what-e— pop stars, actors, you name it. what-e yew— pop stars, actors, you name it. what's your professional- pop stars, actors, you name it. what's your professional verdict on what schofield had to say today? well, i think schofield is today? well, i think schofield te ehty— today? well, i think schofield te ehty the— today? well, i think schofield te ehty the th— today? well, i think schofield is only the tip of— 3“ well, i think schofield is only the tip of the iceberg of is only the tip of the iceberg et a— is only the tip of the iceberg et a hate— is only the tip of the iceberg of a huge conspira ac. i think there-e— of a huge conspira ac. i think thete-e a— of a huge conspira ac. i think there's a huge— of a huge conspira ac. i think there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a huge conspiracy going there-e— there's a huge conspiracy going thete-e a— there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a story— there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a story doing the tewhte— on. there's a story doing the tewhte at— on. there's a story doing the rounds at the— on. there's a story doing the rounds at the moment that three yeate— rounds at the moment that three yeate age— rounds at the moment that three yeate age a— rounds at the moment that three years ago a national newspaper etttet— years ago a national newspaper etttet weht— years ago a national newspaper editor went to _ years ago a national newspaper editor went to itv— years ago a national newspaper editor went to itv and said, we thew— editor went to itv and said, we knew ahewt— editor went to itv and said, we know about phillip schofield etety— know about phillip schofield etety ahe— know about phillip schofield etety and the— know about phillip schofield story and the deal was , please story and the deal was, please teh-t— story and the deal was, please teh-t ee— story and the deal was, please don't use that— story and the deal was, please don't use that one. we'll give you— don't use that one. we'll give yew ether— don't use that one. we'll give you other stories— don't use that one. we'll give you other stories other big you other stories with other big etae— you other stories with other big etate .— you other stories with other big etate , yew— you other stories with other big stars , you know,— you other stories with other big stars , you know, which you can stars, you know, which you can .we— stars, you know, which you can .we-wh- use. and we might up the atwetttetha— use. and we might up the advertising-in- use. and we might up the advertising in your advertising spend in your hewehahet— advertising spend in your newspaper for— advertising spend in your newspaper for titles all newspaper for titles and all the— newspaper for titles and all thte .— newspaper for titles and all this i think— newspaper for titles and all this i think may— newspaper for titles and all this i think may come out is it tweetay—

this i think may come out is it tweetay thte— this i think may come out is it tuesday this week— this i think may come out is it tuesday this week when there's a cehhehe— tuesday this week when there's a cehhehe hawtty— tuesday this week when there's a commons inquiry because the very top commons inquiry because the very teh heehte— commons inquiry because the very teh teeth at— commons inquiry because the very teh teeth at hw— commons inquiry because the very top people at itv are going to be top people at itv are going to he aehet— top people at itv are going to he aetet .— top people at itv are going to be asked , how— top people at itv are going to be asked , how long know be asked, how long did you know this be asked, how long did you know the-tethe— be asked, how long did you know thte-aethe eh— be asked, how long did you know this-going on for?— be asked, how long did you know this going on for? mean, this was going on for? i mean, atteaty— this was going on for? i mean, atteaty the— this was going on for? i mean, already the claim _ this was going on for? i mean, already the claim from itv that, wett— already the claim from itv that, wet, we— already the claim from itv that, well, we asked— already the claim from itv that, well, we asked both sides , we well, we asked both sides, we aehet— well, we asked both sides, we aetet thith— well, we asked both sides, we asked philip, and— well, we asked both sides, we asked philip, and philip's athtttet— asked philip, and philip's athtttet .— asked philip, and philip's admitted , as— asked philip, and philip's admitted , as we know, to lying, admitted, as we know, to lying, but admitted, as we know, to lying, hwt we— admitted, as we know, to lying, hwt we aehet— admitted, as we know, to lying, but we asked the— admitted, as we know, to lying, but we asked the young boy who was but we asked the young boy who hte— but we asked the young boy who hte tewet— but we asked the young boy who was his lover, but— but we asked the young boy who was his lover, but the young boy taththa— was his lover, but the young boy were talking about— was his lover, but the young boy were talking about has come back on were talking about has come back at that— were talking about has come back at that aha— were talking about has come back on that and said— were talking about has come back on that and said nobody ever aehet— on that and said nobody ever aetet he— on that and said nobody ever asked me, nobody ever asked me if i asked me, nobody ever asked me it . wae— asked me, nobody ever asked me it . th— asked me, nobody ever asked me it . in a— asked me, nobody ever asked me if i was in a relationship with thith— if i was in a relationship with phillip schofield— if i was in a relationship with phillip schofield . and so that phillip schofield. and so that in tteett— phillip schofield. and so that in tteett te— phillip schofield. and so that in itself is a— phillip schofield. and so that in itself is a cloud of misinformation on people eewetthe— misinformation on people covering each— misinformation on people covering each other's backs. whe-e— covering each other's backs. whe-e hehe— covering each other's backs. whe-e going te— covering each other's backs. who's going to take the rap you hehttehet— who's going to take the rap you mentioned martin— who's going to take the rap you mentioned martin frizell, the ether— mentioned martin frizell, the etttet et— mentioned martin frizell, the editor of the— mentioned martin frizell, the editor of the program. he must be editor of the program. he must he very— editor of the program. he must be very worried— editor of the program. he must be very worried now because aphatehtty— be very worried now because aphatehtty he— be very worried now because apparently he was the biggest cheerleader— apparently he was the biggest cheerleader for— apparently he was the biggest cheerleader for philip's schofield— cheerleader for philip's schofield for- cheerleader for philip's schofield for years, but has hehe— schofield for years, but has gone very— schofield for years, but has gone wety eett— schofield for years, but has gone very cold on him over the taet— gone very cold on him over the taet eewhte— gone very cold on him over the taet eewhte et— gone very cold on him over the last couple of months, last three— last couple of months, last three months— last couple of months, last three months or- last couple of months, last three months or whatever , and three months or whatever, and hehttehtha— three months or whatever, and mentioning ehm_ three months or whatever, and mentioning ehm as well, eamonn hethee— mentioning ehm as well, eamonn hethee tahehh— mentioning ehm as well, eamonn holmes, eamonn was put in the thwttewe— holmes, eamonn was put in the invidious position— holmes, eamonn was put in the invidious position of being put the— invidious position of being put the the— invidious position of being put

into this incredible drama which ewttewhtet— into this incredible drama which surrounded phillip schofield eehtha— surrounded phillip schofield eehtha ewt— surrounded phillip schofield coming out without eamonn htehetty— coming out without eamonn htehetty hehe— coming out without eamonn properly being told what his part— properly being told what his hat th— properly being told what his hat in the— properly being told what his part in the drama was. properly being told what his part in the drama was . so he and part in the drama was. so he and hwth— part in the drama was. so he and hwth yew— part in the drama was. so he and hwth yew thew,— part in the drama was. so he and ruth, you know, agreed to turn up ruth, you know, agreed to turn we eh— ruth, you know, agreed to turn we at eet— ruth, you know, agreed to turn we at eet wtth— ruth, you know, agreed to turn up on set with schofield and hetty— up on set with schofield and hetty hha— up on set with schofield and hetty the et— up on set with schofield and holly kind of knew what was going— holly kind of knew what was eehe eh— holly kind of knew what was going on because schofield had eeteehatty— going on because schofield had personally admitted to ehm and i'm personally admitted to ehm and th gay.— personally admitted to ehm and th gay. ahe— personally admitted to ehm and i'm gay. and eamonn responded and eate— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and eat, se— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and said, so what?— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and said, so what? because that-e— and said, so what? because that-e what— and said, so what? because that's what we'd— and said, so what? because that's what we'd all say, right? hwt— that's what we'd all say, right? hwt theh— that's what we'd all say, right? hwt theh ht— that's what we'd all say, right? but then it turned— that's what we'd all say, right? but then it turned into the most massive drama— but then it turned into the most massive drama where schofield is hugging— massive drama where schofield is hweehe hwth— massive drama where schofield is hweehe hwth hwt— massive drama where schofield is hugging ruth, but at the same the— hugging ruth, but at the same the teaching— hugging ruth, but at the same time reaching out and trying to etwteh— time reaching out and trying to clutch eamonn's_ time reaching out and trying to clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him clutch eamonn's arm and drawing hth tewatte— clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him towards him.— clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him towards him. and it was atheet— him towards him. and it was atheet the— him towards him. and it was almost like they— him towards him. and it was almost like they were using tahehh— almost like they were using eamonn as a smokescreen for eeheththe— eamonn as a smokescreen for something much— eamonn as a smokescreen for something much bigger that was going— something much bigger that was eeha eh— something much bigger that was eehe at th— something much bigger that was eehe at th the— something much bigger that was going on in the background. but they— going on in the background. but they wanted— going on in the background. but they wanted eamonn holmes to the— they wanted eamonn holmes to the the— they wanted eamonn holmes to the the whete— they wanted eamonn holmes to give the whole thing respectability and that to me is wttetty— respectability and that to me is utterly disgraceful . ' t: utterly disgraceful. and mark, can utterly disgraceful. and mark, .,_ utterly disgraceful. and mark, can i, can i. sorry,— utterly disgraceful. ' t: tit?" tit?" sorry, briefly utterly disgraceful. ' t: i " i " sorry, briefly if can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if yew ah— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if yew yeah— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you can. yeah _ can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you can. yeah very- tit?“ tit?“ sorry, briefly if you can. yeah 0:th can i, can i. sorry, briefly if- you can. yeah very briefly, look at the timeline . the guy was 18 at the timeline. the guy was 18 years old when he was hired . years old when he was hired. what was done? oh, oh, it's just

past midnight. he's 18 now. now he can hire him. of course, he had a relationship with guy had a relationship with the guy pnor had a relationship with the guy prior that . but, i mean, you prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't . prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't. don't prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't . don't buy know, i just don't. i don't buy any okay. well, i'm any of it. okay. well, i'm tettehtet— any of it. okay. well, i'm delighted-say- any of it. okay. well, i'm delighted-say that- 0 well, i'm delighted say that this story delighted to say that this story is delighted to say that this story he eehthe— delighted to say that this story is coming -1030 - delighted to say that this story is coming 1030 because is coming back at 1030 because it's is coming back at 1030 because he teatwtthe— is coming back at 1030 because it's featuring in— is coming back at 1030 because it's featuring in several the it's featuring in several of the tent— it's featuring in several of the tent-wett— it's featuring in several of the front we'll hitting front pages. we'll be hitting that—wtth- front pages. we'll be hitting that—with full| that bang on 1030 with full ewhttt— that bang on 1030 with full pundit reaction— that bang on 1030 with full pundit reaction . and listen, pundit reaction. and listen, heat— pundit reaction. and listen, heat-were— pundit reaction. and listen, next we're going to look at next up, we're going to look at whether— next up, we're going to look at whether et— next up, we're going to look at whether or not— next up, we're going to look at whether or not holly willoughby ehewtt— whether or not holly willoughby ehewtt he— whether or not holly willoughby should be back— whether or not holly willoughby should be back on this morning. shewtt— should be back on this morning. shewtt ehe— should be back on this morning. should she return— should be back on this morning. should she return to the show on thentay— should she return to the show on wehtay. what— should she return to the show on monday. what do— should she return to the show on monday. what do you think? do you monday. what do you think? do yew-te— monday. what do you think? do yew-te watch— monday. what do you think? do you -to watch -on i you want to watch her back on the— you want to watch her back on the-heee— you want to watch her back on the-heee ehe- you want to watch her back on the-does she still. you want to watch her back on the does she still have the program? does she still have etetthttttye— the program? does she still have credibility?-believe- credibility? do you believe that?— credibility? do you believe that? she— credibility? do you believe that? she knew nothing all along 7 that? she knew nothing all along e—sehettett- ? also was phillip schofield eehwthety— ? also was phillip schofield genuinely close— ? also was phillip schofield genuinely close to suicide? is he hit— genuinely close to suicide? is he etttt a— genuinely close to suicide? is he still a suicide— genuinely close to suicide? is he still a suicide risk? i'll be aetthe— he still a suicide risk? i'll be asking tonight's— he still a suicide risk? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, the teatteee— asking tonight's newsmaker, the teatteee hhh— asking tonight's newsmaker, the fearless kim woodburn. she's

right things, whether there are any lessons that we can learn. your listening . to well, look, your listening. to well, look, some your listening. to well, look, ettehe— your listening. to well, look, some strong emails- /t:t. i 0 50:7“ 3 well, look, some strong emails coming in. market— some strong emails coming in. market news.com _ some strong emails coming in. market news.com .— some strong emails coming in. market news.com . do you buy

market news.com. do you buy thithe— market news.com. do you buy phillip schofield _ market news.com. do you buy phillip schofield crocodile teatee— phillip schofield crocodile tears? well,— phillip schofield crocodile tears? well, here's wendy who's not tears? well, here's wendy who's het ewttthe— tears? well, here's wendy who's het ewttthe het— tears? well, here's wendy who's not pulling her punches. wendy eaye— not pulling her punches. wendy eaye hath— not pulling her punches. wendy eaye, hath t— not pulling her punches. wendy says, mark, i hope— not pulling her punches. wendy says, mark, i hope for your eahee— says, mark, i hope for your eahee that— says, mark, i hope for your sakes that philip does not take his sakes that philip does not take hte ew— sakes that philip does not take hte the.— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if he— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if he does , you his own life. if he does, you ahe— his own life. if he does, you and yew— his own life. if he does, you and your cohorts,- his own life. if he does, you and your cohorts, including the eathtty— and your cohorts, including the saintly eamonn— and your cohorts, including the saintly eamonn holmes , will saintly eamonn holmes, will eettathty— saintly eamonn holmes, will eettathty he— saintly eamonn holmes, will certainly be culpable . you certainly be culpable. you teatty— certainly be culpable. you teatty ate— certainly be culpable. you teatty a— certainly be culpable. you really are a pile of know heththe— really are a pile of know nothing gossips who delight in a eeeehe tatt— nothing gossips who delight in a person's fall from _ nothing gossips who delight in a person's fall from grace. what a ehahe— person's fall from grace. what a ehahe yew— person's fall from grace. what a shame you don't— person's fall from grace. what a shame you don't have anything thtetttaeht— shame you don't have anything intelligent to— shame you don't have anything intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet— intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet haeey— intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet haeey wtth— intelligent to discuss, wendy. not happy with this debate. do you not happy with this debate. do yew ththh— not happy with this debate. do you think that— not happy with this debate. do you think that this program , you think that this program, the— you think that this program, this channel— you think that this program, this channel and the media are mathe— this channel and the media are hahthe a— this channel and the media are making a mountain out of a hetehttte— making a mountain out of a molehill? do— making a mountain out of a molehill? do you agree with with wehty— molehill? do you agree with with wehty eh— molehill? do you agree with with wehty at that— molehill? do you agree with with wendy on that market? gb news . vee- hetty— wendy on that market? gb news .com . yes. holly should go back .com. yes. holly should go back to .com. yes. holly should go back te thte— .com. yes. holly should go back to this morning,— .com. yes. holly should go back to this morning, says wayne as ehe— to this morning, says wayne as ehe hae— to this morning, says wayne as ehe hae hehe— to this morning, says wayne as she has done nothing wrong this hae— she has done nothing wrong this hae eate— she has done nothing wrong this man has said he— she has done nothing wrong this man has said he knows what catetthe— man has said he knows what caroline flack— man has said he knows what caroline flack went through. how tate— caroline flack went through. how tate hee— caroline flack went through. how date he? he— caroline flack went through. how dare he? he bullied this poor eth— dare he? he bullied this poor attt eh— dare he? he bullied this poor that at the— dare he? he bullied this poor girl on the sofa— dare he? he bullied this poor girl on the sofa of this hehhe. — girl on the sofa of this morning. and so jog on, says wayhe.— morning. and so jog on, says wayhe. hete— morning. and so jog on, says wayne. more of— morning. and so jog on, says wayne. more of your emails that-e— wayne. more of your emails that-e twet— wayne. more of your emails that's just coming in thick and het.—

that's just coming in thick and taet. twe— that's just coming in thick and taet. the get— that's just coming in thick and fast. i've got to— that's just coming in thick and fast. i've got to say, an unprecedented number of emails. we unprecedented number of emails. we wee— unprecedented number of emails. we etch— unprecedented number of emails. we were sick of— unprecedented number of emails. we were sick of seeing schofield on we were sick of seeing schofield at every— we were sick of seeing schofield at every ehew— we were sick of seeing schofield at every ehew .— we were sick of seeing schofield on every show , says adrian. itv on every show, says adrian. itv heete— on every show, says adrian. itv heete te— on every show, says adrian. itv heete te etee— on every show, says adrian. itv needs to stop depending on a eettath— needs to stop depending on a eettath tew— needs to stop depending on a certain few stars. _ needs to stop depending on a certain few stars. there's etehty— certain few stars. there's etehty ewt— certain few stars. there's plenty out there. schofield teeewee— plenty out there. schofield deserves what— plenty out there. schofield deserves what he gets . richard deserves what he gets. richard cteeettte— deserves what he gets. richard crocodile tears— deserves what he gets. richard crocodile tears and throwing every— crocodile tears and throwing ewety eart— crocodile tears and throwing every card onto— crocodile tears and throwing every card onto the table to eeth— every card onto the table to spin maximum— every card onto the table to spin maximum sympathy. pass me a wheth— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a wetth aha— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it a— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it a small one. take— violin and make it a small one. take eth— violin and make it a small one. take ett eaye— violin and make it a small one. fake off, says richard . can i fake off, says richard. can i twet— fake off, says richard. can i twet eay— fake off, says richard. can i twet eay that— fake off, says richard. can i just say that your emails are eettthe— just say that your emails are eettthe ee— just say that your emails are getting more poetic and creative by getting more poetic and creative hy the— getting more poetic and creative hy the eaye— getting more poetic and creative hy the eaye tt-e— getting more poetic and creative by the day? it's always the htehtteht— by the day? it's always the htehtteht et— by the day? it's always the highlight of my show, let me teth— highlight of my show, let me tett yew. — highlight of my show, let me tell you. we've— highlight of my show, let me tell you. we've got tomorrow's eaeete— tell you. we've got tomorrow's eaeete aha— tell you. we've got tomorrow's papers and there's a lot of sehettett— papers and there's a lot of schofield in— papers and there's a lot of schofield in there. let me tell yew.— schofield in there. let me tell yew. that-e— schofield in there. let me tell yew. that-e at— schofield in there. let me tell you. that's at 1030 sharp on sehettett— you. that's at 1030 sharp on sehettett .— you. that's at 1030 sharp on schofield . more— you. that's at 1030 sharp on schofield . more to come. let's schofield. more to come. let's have— schofield. more to come. let's have a— schofield. more to come. let's have a teet— schofield. more to come. let's have a look at— schofield. more to come. let's have a look at keith who says hi. have a look at keith who says ht. why— have a look at keith who says ht. why te— have a look at keith who says hi. why is phillip— have a look at keith who says hi. why is phillip schofield hahthe— hi. why is phillip schofield hahthe eweh— hi. why is phillip schofield making such a— hi. why is phillip schofield making such a drama about losing wette— making such a drama about losing wethe hee— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly at— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly at retirement age— work? he's nearly at retirement age ahe— work? he's nearly at retirement age and the— work? he's nearly at retirement age and tete et— work? he's nearly at retirement age and lots of people are made tetwhtaht— age and lots of people are made tetwhtaht at— age and lots of people are made redundant at similar ages. the ttttetehee— redundant at similar ages. the difference is— redundant at similar ages. the difference is that— redundant at similar ages. the difference is that he's worth httttehe— difference is that he's worth millions and— difference is that he's worth millions and can choose never to

wett— millions and can choose never to weak aeath— millions and can choose never to weak aeath et— millions and can choose never to work again or start— millions and can choose never to work again or start in some ether— work again or start in some ethet theta— work again or start in some other field without ever having any eey — other field without ever having any money. worries what he has got any money. worries what he has eet te— any money. worries what he has eet te he— any money. worries what he has got to be miserable about is very— got to be miserable about is very ttttte— got to be miserable about is very little. he— got to be miserable about is very little. he should come down to very little. he should come down te eatth— very little. he should come down te eatth aha— very little. he should come down to earth and be— very little. he should come down to earth and be grateful for what— to earth and be grateful for what he-e— to earth and be grateful for what he get— to earth and be grateful for what he's got and enjoy his tetttement— what he's got and enjoy his retirement, says— what he's got and enjoy his retirement, says keith. well, as i retirement, says keith. well, as t eethtet— retirement, says keith. well, as t eethtet ewt— retirement, says keith. well, as i pointed out in— retirement, says keith. well, as i pointed out in my take, at ten:— i pointed out in my take, at he ht— i pointed out in my take, at he tt htaht— i pointed out in my take, at ten, it might be— i pointed out in my take, at ten, it might be an overreaction that— ten, it might be an overreaction that he— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career is— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career is over. it htaht— that his career is over. it hteht he— that his career is over. it hteht he a— that his career is over. it might be a bit- that his career is over. it might be a bit harsh, but unlike many— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et yew,— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et yew, h— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many of you, if you lose your job,— many of you, if you lose your teh he— many of you, if you lose your teh he went— many of you, if you lose your job, he won't be— many of you, if you lose your job, he won't be going hungry. wathet— job, he won't be going hungry. wathet eh— job, he won't be going hungry. market gb news— job, he won't be going hungry. market gb news .com or get some et— market gb news .com or get some et yew— market gb news .com or get some more of your emails— market gb news .com or get some more of your emails shortly. het-e— more of your emails shortly. the get— more of your emails shortly. let's get further— more of your emails shortly. let's get further thoughts now heh— let's get further thoughts now tteh hy— let's get further thoughts now them my tee— let's get further thoughts now from my top pundits , author and from my top pundits, author and aeatehte— from my top pundits, author and aeatehte ht.— from my top pundits, author and academic dr. lisa— from my top pundits, author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie , academic dr. lisa mckenzie, tewthattet— academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and— academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator. ttzzte— journalist and commentator. ttzzte ztta— journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and— journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and radio tv lizzie zita and radio and tv teeeht— lizzie zita and radio and tv teeeht tithe— lizzie zita and radio and tv legend mike porky parry. and tteteh— legend mike porky parry. and tteteh we-te— legend mike porky parry. and listen, we're trying to get a the— listen, we're trying to get a the te— listen, we're trying to get a the te the — listen, we're trying to get a line to the brilliant kim woodburn,— line to the brilliant kim woodburn, but there's an thtethet— woodburn, but there's an internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate— internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate te— internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate te eet— internet connection issues. i'm desperate to get her on. greg wayhe— desperate to get her on. greg wayheite— desperate to get her on. greg wayheite ht— desperate to get her on. greg maybe-do it after- desperate to get her on. greg maybe do it after half ten if maybe we do it after half ten if we can..we can— maybe we do it after half ten if we can. we can make that we can. if we can make that weak. — we can. if we can make that weak. hwt— we can. if we can make that work. buthould- we can. if we can make that work. but would ask you, mike work. but i would ask you, mike patty,— work. but i would ask you, mike hatty, whether— work. but i would ask you, mike parry, whether wendy is right, that— parry, whether wendy is right, that away— parry, whether wendy is right, that actually we _ parry, whether wendy is right, that actually we are making a

hewhtath— that actually we are making a mountain out— that actually we are making a mountain out of— that actually we are making a mountain out of a mole hill and that,— mountain out of a mole hill and that, ttahhty— mountain out of a mole hill and that, ttahhty .— mountain out of a mole hill and that, frankly , we're— mountain out of a mole hill and that, frankly , we're celebrating that, frankly, we're celebrating a tatt— that, frankly, we're celebrating a man's fall from _ that, frankly, we're celebrating a man's fall from grace. what do you— a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththh— a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththh e — a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththhe we.— a man's fall from grace. what do you think ? no, we're- a man's fall from grace. what do you think ? \t:t it: you think? no, we're not celebrating man's fall from grace. what we're doing is we're all standing back in amazement that such huge could that such a huge scandal could be happening right in front of our very eyes. was on the our very eyes. he was on the couch every morning with holly and people aren't stupid . and and people aren't stupid. and over the last 2 or 3 months, people have noticed the division between the them moving between the two of them moving away. other things that away. the other things that interest as as the interest me are as as the balance of power between the two of started to shift. holly of them started to shift. holly started to become more popular. phil popular. there phil became less popular. there was a front cover of the i think it was the sunday times magazine , which was a tribute to holly willoughby after i think she'd done the thing with liberty . done the thing with liberty. yes, that's right . and ant yes, that's right. and ant wehatttth— yes, that's right. and ant mcpartlin got— yes, that's right. and ant mcpartlin got the- t/t:;~5t 3 and ant mcpartlin got the got the tttwhe — mcpartlin got the got the driving issue.— mcpartlin got the got the driving issue. so he took a eth— driving issue. so he took a series off. that's right . with series off. that's right. now, ehe— series off. that's right. now, ehe we— series off. that's right. now, she won an award- series off. that's right. now, she won an award for that. but also it really upped her profile. you know what i mean?

and they never talked about that on the set. isn't that ridiculous? you know, your co—worker gets this great award and you talk about it. and you don't talk about it. also, they had the queen's also, when they had the queen's gate problem, holly wanted to apologise and did make some reference to it. but but phil, no, absolutely stumped . didn't no, absolutely stumped. didn't want to say anything about it. so it was obvious that there was tension between the two of them. so for anybody to say, oh, it's all exaggerated , oh, it's all all exaggerated, oh, it's all a storm in a teacup, it's not. he's one of the biggest stars on british tv. he generates tens if not hundreds of millions of poundsin not hundreds of millions of pounds in revenues for itv . it's pounds in revenues for itv. it's a major story . pounds in revenues for itv. it's a major story. it's been handled brilliantly by a lot of our great journalists in this country, including eamonn holmes , sometimes of this parish . and , sometimes of this parish. and the truth is now coming out because only the truth matters here. and everything that's been going on in the background for the last 2 or 3 years, hopefully will be revealed in the commons

inquiry coming up next week and thereafter because we've all been taken for fools and there's been taken for fools and there's been bucket loads of deceit and that deceit has got to be unveiled . well, i've got to say unveiled. well, i've got to say the— unveiled. well, i've got to say the tent— unveiled. well, i've got to say the tent eaeee— unveiled. well, i've got to say the front pages are— 0. 0:0: well, i've got to say the front pages are coming in thet— the front pages are coming in thtet aha— the front pages are coming in thick and fast— the front pages are coming in thick and fast and we will hear heh— thick and fast and we will hear tteh thea— thick and fast and we will hear from lisa and— thick and fast and we will hear from lisa and lizzie and mike petty— from lisa and lizzie and mike hethy patty— from lisa and lizzie and mike hethy hatty th— from lisa and lizzie and mike porky parry in just a couple of hhhee.— porky parry in just a couple of hthwtee. het— porky parry in just a couple of minutes. hot off— porky parry in just a couple of minutes. hot off the press, sehettett— minutes. hot off the press, schofield willoughby, there's ehty— schofield willoughby, there's ehty ee— schofield willoughby, there's only one show— schofield willoughby, there's only one show in— schofield willoughby, there's only one show in town, so we'll att— only one show in town, so we'll att et— only one show in town, so we'll cover all of that. _ only one show in town, so we'll cover all of that. keep those ehahe— cover all of that. keep those emails coming. _ cover all of that. keep those emails coming. is this a cruel wtteh— emails coming. is this a cruel wtteh hwht— emails coming. is this a cruel witch hunt against phillip sehettett— witch hunt against phillip schofield mark gb news .com. heh-t— schofield mark gb news .com. heh-t 90— schofield mark gb news .com. don't go anywhere. tomorrow's eaeete— don't go anywhere. tomorrow's eaeete ate—

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dr. the ethnographer, the academic ht. thea— the ethnographer, the academic dr. lisa mckenzie— the ethnographer, the academic dr. lisa mckenzie , journalist dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist ahe— dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte— and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte aha— and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte aht tw— and commentator. lizzie zita and radio and tv broadcaster fleet street— radio and tv broadcaster fleet street teeeht— radio and tv broadcaster fleet street legend mike porky parry . street legend mike porky parry. so street legend mike porky parry. se hahy— street legend mike porky parry. so many stories— street legend mike porky parry. so many stories to get through . so many stories to get through. tithe— so many stories to get through. tithe t— so many stories to get through. tithe i went— so many stories to get through. mike i don't fancy— so many stories to get through. mike i don't fancy that you aiiehe— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line up— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line up another year of iaii— aliens line up another year of at ettihe— aliens line up another year of rail strike mayhem. yeah it's all political,— rail strike mayhem. yeah it's all political, isn't it ? �*ftt�*i; all political, isn't it? we know that— all political, isn't it? we know that tet— all political, isn't it? we know that tea a— all political, isn't it? we know that for a fact . there's plenty that for a fact. there's plenty of evidence that a lot of people, certainly in the background of the railway unions , have admitted that it's an overtly political move to try and get rid of the current government. but i don't know why they're bothering because it looks like the wages for their workers are they just trying to get wages for their workers? well, why don't they put well, vtihy don't they put the well, why don't they put the successive -their- successive offers to their weteteh— successive offers to their weteteh th— successive offers to their weteteh in a— successive offers to their workers in a ballot then workers in a ballot and then thei— workers in a ballot and then their workers— workers in a ballot and then their workers come back? their workers can come back? they— their workers can come back? they eay— their workers can come back? they say. eh.— their workers can come back? they say. eh he— their workers can come back? they say, oh, no, no,- their workers can come back? they say, oh, no, no, we've got a in which all the a system in which all the workers consulted. but workers are consulted. but everybody says the everybody i speak to says the ballot has not taken place on the government stroke . the the government stroke. the railway owners later offer. and if you don't put the i mean, look, they're getting £65,000 a

yeah look, they're getting £65,000 a year. so they're already getting doubled. they're getting double what the national wage is not true. and yet they are pigheaded in refusing to even consider other things like working sundays a normal day instead of working sunday is always overtime . an antiquated working overtime. an antiquated working practises which they won't give way on. that's not true. it is all true. the rmt_ way on. that's not true. it is all true. the rmt every- all true. the rmt every word i say— all true. the rmt every word i eay te— all true. the rmt every word i eay ie ttwe. — all true. the rmt every word i say is true. rmt_ all true. the rmt every word i say is true. rmt represent a range— say is true. rmt represent a range et— say is true. rmt represent a range et eeeete— say is true. rmt represent a range of people who work in the taiiwaye. — range of people who work in the taiiwaye. vee— range of people who work in the railways. yes, some— range of people who work in the railways. yes, some are on 2526 graha— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a yea— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a year aha— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grand a year and some a tiny hihetity. — grand a year and some a tiny hihetity. hwt— grand a year and some a tiny minority. but they- grand a year and some a tiny minority. iii; grand a year and some a tiny minority. t: i minority. but they are drivers. 65.the minority. but they are drivers. 65. the drivers are on 60 k plus. the drivers are not represented— plus. the drivers are not represented by- the drivers are not represented by the rmt. the ttitete— represented by the rmt. the drivers have— represented by the rmt. the drivers have got— represented by the rmt. the drivers have got a different the— drivers have got a different union. the rmt_ drivers have got a different union. the rmt represent the eeeeie— union. the rmt represent the eeeete whe— union. the rmt represent the people who work— union. the rmt represent the people who work on the railways and taiiway— people who work on the railways and railway drivers— people who work on the railways and railway drivers as well. hwt— and railway drivers as well. hat the— and railway drivers as well. but the railway— and railway drivers as well. but the railway drivers- and railway drivers as well. but the railway drivers are in a union that is constantly striking. we talk about the rmt taiiway— striking. we talk about the rmt railway workers. _ striking. we talk about the rmt railway workers. you _ 3 we talk about the rmt railway workers. you listen .

railway workers. you listen. ateh-t— railway workers. you listen. ateh-t we— railway workers. you listen. aren't we fed— railway workers. you listen. aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having he— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having he wett— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having no work ing, no, not getting— having no work ing, no, not getting a— having no work ing, no, not getting a eh— having no work ing, no, not getting a gp paying £400 for a teat— getting a gp paying £400 for a teat et— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread ,_ getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread , you— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread , you know, loaf of bread, you know, tehitiet— loaf of bread, you know, terrified that— loaf of bread, you know, terrified that my rent is going to terrified that my rent is going te 90— terrified that my rent is going te 90 we.— terrified that my rent is going te 90 we. i— terrified that my rent is going te 90 we. i ah— terrified that my rent is going to go up. i am sick to death of thie— to go up. i am sick to death of the. we— to go up. i am sick to death of the. we aii— to go up. i am sick to death of this. we all are.— to go up. i am sick to death of this. we all are. and so the thing— this. we all are. and so the thing te— this. we all are. and so the thing ie te— this. we all are. and so the thing is, is why— this. we all are. and so the thing is, is why are we attaching— thing is, is why are we attacking each other when we thew— attacking each other when we hhew eet— attacking each other when we know we've got people who are aetihe— know we've got people who are aetihe tet— know we've got people who are aetihe tet te— know we've got people who are aetihe tet ie a— know we've got people who are asking for is a pay— know we've got people who are asking for is a pay rise which witt— asking for is a pay rise which witi eeheht— asking for is a pay rise which will cement inflation into the eyeteh — will cement inflation into the eyeteh tet— will cement inflation into the system for years— will cement inflation into the system for years to come . ' t: system for years to come. and ihttatieh— system for years to come. and ihttatieh te— system for years to come. and inflation is our— system for years to come. and inflation is our biggest problem. yes plus the national debt. who's going to pay for this? well, we well, we the hatiehai— this? well, we well, we the national debt— this? well, we well, we the national debt was- 57 well, we well, we the national debt was supposed to be our national debt was supposed to be ewt-etehieh— national debt was supposed to be ewt-etehieh th— national debt was supposed to be our problem in 2013, our biggest problem in 2013, how.— our biggest problem in 2013, how. aha— our biggest problem in 2013, 2011. and then— our biggest problem in 2013, 2011. and then we had austerity . aha— 2011. and then we had austerity . that what— 2011. and then we had austerity . and what has— 2011. and then we had austerity . and what has been the fallout of . and what has been the fallout et awetetitye— . and what has been the fallout of austerity? the— . and what has been the fallout of austerity? the state of the eewhtty— of austerity? the state of the eewhtty that— of austerity? the state of the country that we've now got? wane — country that we've now got? hang hew— country that we've now got? hang on. you seem- country that we've now got? hang on. you seem to- country that we've now got? hang on. you seem to forget ukraine. you seem to forget the pandemic. these are all of those things. these are all factors which— things. these are all factors which have— 35 these are all factors which have contributed to weathe— which have contributed to working people . working people. that's what railway are railway workers are are determined, or at least their bosses are, to ruin the lives of

other working people. i live very close to epsom racecourse, right? the derby tomorrow right? it's the derby tomorrow and yet little towns around epsom where people go and stay will lose trade hand over fist. the bars will not be full. the hotels cells are not full, the restaurants are not full because people can't get there because of the railway workers. it's a disgrace. moving on to the teteetaeh— disgrace. moving on to the teteetaeh .— disgrace. moving on to the telegraph , lizzie- t: gi moving on to the telegraph , lizzie zita ministers telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had telegraph, lizzie zita ministers hat eetet— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit to— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit to kerb critics of had secret unit to kerb critics et ieehtewh. — had secret unit to kerb critics of lockdown. there's a surprise as of lockdown. there's a surprise as eh— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah, well,— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked ahe— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified and— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified and not, you know of and horrified and not, you know et they— and horrified and not, you know of course they had— and horrified and not, you know of course they had they wanted to of course they had they wanted te atwaye— of course they had they wanted te atwaye eweh— of course they had they wanted to always push their agenda thei— to always push their agenda theit — to always push their agenda their view. of— to always push their agenda their view. o” ti.it. to always push their agenda their view. ti.it. “el: their view. of course they had systems in place to sort of cover up what was really happening, etcetera , to happening, etcetera, to exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate , te— exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate , to make- t:;>ee

fine, very initially for the first few weeks. but then after that it was i don't think this we would not listen again when it's like that poem, if the old radio would speak , we would not radio would speak, we would not listen. we would not let this old world swallow up our children at one great big gulp . children at one great big gulp. now, how i remember that from school, it's edward muir poem, the horses . so listen, we the horses. so listen, we wouldn't do . yeah, but yeah. wouldn't do. yeah, but yeah. hey, i can't remember what i had for breakfast, but i remember the but yeah, i just the muir poem. but yeah, i just think that disgraceful . i think think that disgraceful. i think it is a reflection . i think. it is a reflection. i think. i think— it is a reflection. i think. i thihh the— it is a reflection. i think. i think the country- it is a reflection. i think. i think the country is- 0 i ithink. i think the country is in quite a reflective— think the country is in quite a reflective mood— think the country is in quite a reflective mood at the moment, aetwaiiy— reflective mood at the moment, aetwaiiy. aha— reflective mood at the moment, aetwatty. that i— reflective mood at the moment, actually. and i think we are teieehihg— actually. and i think we are teteehihg at— actually. and i think we are relooking at the— actually. and i think we are relooking at the pandemic and the lockdowns— relooking at the pandemic and the lockdowns and then the damage— the lockdowns and then the damage that— the lockdowns and then the damage that that has caused. i mean, we're having a debate and our mean, we're having a debate and atgwheht— mean, we're having a debate and our argument about— mean, we're having a debate and our argument about what's haeeehihg— our argument about what's haeeehihg th— our argument about what's happening in the economy and how eeeeie— happening in the economy and how eeeete ate— happening in the economy and how people are struggling. yeah. and the lockdowns— people are struggling. yeah. and the lockdowns were a big part of that— the lockdowns were a big part of that .— the lockdowns were a big part of that . se— the lockdowns were a big part of that . so. correct. _ the lockdowns were a big part of that . so. correct. i ' t: that. so. correct. correct. and as the public debate those who back who thought maybe it would

do more harm than good mike were demonised granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iofed granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course youranny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were . itzrs. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were . it was yeah, of course you were. it was absolutely ridiculous. _ “iii" ti.it. ”i it was absolutely ridiculous. look at the etate— absolutely ridiculous. look at the state .the _ absolutely ridiculous. look at the state the country now the state of the country now teitewihg— the state of the country now following lockdown. following the lockdown. the wetet— following the lockdown. the worst-outcome - following the lockdown. the worst outcome of worst possible outcome of ieehtewh— worst possible outcome of lockdown are _ worst possible outcome of lockdown are all these people new-wett— lockdown are all these people now-work from - lockdown are all these people now work from home. it has now who work from home. it has etwehet—thel crushed the economy and the eiwii— crushed the economy and the civil servants— crushed the economy and the civil servants at— crushed the economy and the civil servants at the very top heet— civil servants at the very top are most responsible for this . are most responsible for this. what— are most responsible for this. that i— are most responsible for this. and i believe— are most responsible for this. and i believe their behaviour hae— and i believe their behaviour hae heeh— and i believe their behaviour has been disgraceful. i think thee-e— has been disgraceful. i think thete-e a— has been disgraceful. i think there's a worse— has been disgraceful. i think there's a worse actually consequence of lockdown and that is for children who have lost. ms yes. ms totally agree. children and now t/i;5t i~i5t iii: children and now truancy has heeh— children and now truancy has been normalised. ' t: been normalised. totally. and teth— been normalised. totally. and let's also remember all those children who were at risk and never made it out of the. i totally agree. yes. and also the way ite— totally agree. yes. and also the way he heeh— t5ttg”t:;i; t/i;~5t and also the way it's been normalised, the few— way it's been normalised, the tewt iay— way it's been normalised, the tewt day week— way it's been normalised, the four day week is— way it's been normalised, the four day week is being normalised,- four day week is being normalised, right? it�*tili00 four day week is being— normalised, right? well, because of working from home, lizzie. hold that thought. what hold thatdthought. what were hold that thought. what were you going— hold that thought. what were you geihg te— hold that thought. what were you geihg te eaye— hold that thought. what were you geihg te eaye th— hold that thought. what were you going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. na.— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i wa— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i geihg— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to say- going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to say that, you know, the teenagers, was. i'm know, the teenagers, i was. i'm surrounded by teenagers, had a terrible , terrible they terrible, terrible time. they were just coming up to their gcses. it's had an effect to

this day to isolate kids , to this day to isolate kids, to tell them to sit still. it's almost like it's like telling the rain not to fall . yes, it the rain not to fall. yes, it was awful. and when they're atwite— was awful. and when they're adults, they'll— was awful. and when they're adults, they'll be— and when they're adults, they'll be picking up the hit— adults, they'll be picking up the hiti tet— adults, they'll be picking up the bill for what i consider a taiiet— the bill for what i consider a failed experiment to stop a i— failed experiment to stop a virus. i should— failed experiment to stop a virus. i should say the government,- virus. i should say the government, the authorities wewit— government, the authorities wewtt atgwe— government, the authorities would argue that what they did iiwee. — would argue that what they did save lives. that's— would argue that what they did save lives. that's not my view. hwt— save lives. that's not my view. hwt that— save lives. that's not my view. hwt that te— save lives. that's not my view. but that is their— save lives. that's not my view. but that is their strong view. tithe— but that is their strong view. tithe e...,,_ but that is their strong view. tithe hairy, yew— but that is their strong view. mike parry, you just dropped a bit-bombshell— mike parry, you just dropped a bit bombshell there, bit of a bombshell there, ewggeetihg— bit of a bombshell there, suggesting that the pandemic has not normalised— suggesting that the pandemic has not normalised working from home and normalised— not normalised working from home and normalised the— not normalised working from home and normalised the four day wetting— and normalised the four day working week. _ and normalised the four day working week. so has lockdowns twthet— working week. so has lockdowns turned britain _ working week. so has lockdowns turned britain lazy— working week. so has lockdowns turned britain lazy ? 3?th turned britain lazy? what teettewh— turned britain lazy? what lockdown has— turned britain lazy? what lockdown has done is it's given lazy people the opportunity to be even more lazy. what is it that council in cambridgeshire that's now gone on to a four day week permanently ? that means the week permanently? that means the liberal democrat council? yeah , liberal democrat council? yeah, that spread liberal democrat council? yeah, that-spread throughout- ti i 7 yeah, that spread throughout the that will spread throughout the eewhtty. — that will spread throughout the. eewhtty. —wety country. now. okay. but the very idea now that you should take to somebody, get your peloton, somebody, get off your peloton, which is having big financial problems by the way, is that a cocktail ? yeah. get off your cocktail? yeah. get off your peloton and get your into work .

peloton and get your into work. you know, instead of your bicycle seat and get it into youn bicycle seat and get it into your, you know, the chair next to your desk at work . that has to your desk at work. that has gone forever on a five day week bafis gone forever on a five day week basis or even a four day week basis. something else is haeeehihg— basis. something else is happening that- something else is happening that will smash the eey th— happening that will smash the economy. i'm sorry- happening that will smash the economy. and there's economy. i'm sorry. and there's eehethihg— economy. i'm sorry. and there's eehethihg eiee— economy. i'm sorry. and there's something else that's— economy. and there's something else that's happening as something else that's happening ae-the— something else that's happening ae-the-that- as well that the people that tetehy— as well that the people that tetehy-wahte- as well that the people that jeremy-wants to- as well that the people that jeremy wants to get, jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete— jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete eyei— jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete the— jeremy hunt wants to get, the people over the age of 55 back to people over the age of 55 back te wk,— people over the age of 55 back te weth hwt— people over the age of 55 back to work, but 61%_ people over the age of 55 back to work, but 61% of those people have — to work, but 61% of those people have eati— to work, but 61% of those people have eait eti— to work, but 61% of those people have paid off their— to work, but 61% of those people have paid off their mortgages aha— have paid off their mortgages and eeh— have paid off their mortgages and em et— have paid off their mortgages and 63% of them are very , very and 63% of them are very, very happy— and 63% of them are very, very haeey with— and 63% of them are very, very haeey with thei— and 63% of them are very, very happy with their investments. they— happy with their investments. they etayet — happy with their investments. they etayet at— happy with their investments. they stayed at home. they did a bit they stayed at home. they did a hit et— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening .— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening . they did a lot bit of gardening. they did a lot of bit of gardening. they did a lot et eeehihg— bit of gardening. they did a lot et eeetihg .— bit of gardening. they did a lot of cooking . they— bit of gardening. they did a lot of cooking . they maybe they and of cooking. they maybe they and they— of cooking. they maybe they and they thewght— of cooking. they maybe they and they thought, well, _ of cooking. they maybe they and they thought, well, is they thought, well, this is gwite—hetl they thought, well, this is. gwite—het geihg they thought, well, this is- quite_not going to quite nice. they're not going to go quite nice. they're not going to tho-to— quite nice. they're not going to ge-te-cah- quite nice. they're not going to ge-te-cahlateel quite nice. they're not going to go-to-canlalso, as| go back to work. can i also, as i go back to work. can i also, as i atwaye— go back to work. can i also, as i atwaye te— go back to work. can i also, as i always do every— go back to work. can i also, as i always do every time i'm on thie— i always do every time i'm on this programme— i always do every time i'm on this programme ,_ i always do every time i'm on this programme , let's i like to this programme, let's i like to htihg— this programme, let's i like to hing-ether— this programme, let's i like to bring-other end- this programme, let's i like to bring other end of bring the other end of it. the eeeete— bring the other end of it. the eeeeie whe— bring the other end of it. the eeeeie whe ate— bring the other end of it. the people who are working the people who are working in the supermarkets, who are supermarkets, the people who are working in the amazon warehouses and other large warehouses , and the other large warehouses, security drivers , security guards, taxi drivers, they are not getting any opportunity . they're not getting opportunity. they're not getting the opportunity to work at home or to be lazy. of course you

cant— or to be lazy. of course you cant yew— or to be lazy. of course you can't you can't— or to be lazy. of course you can't you can't work- of course you can't you can't work it out. if yee— can't you can't work it out. if ye tittihg— can't you can't work it out. if you're fitting carpets in my eehthewee. — you're fitting carpets in my. penthouse. _ about penthouse. well, what about tite— penthouse. well, what about the-thie- penthouse. well, what about like,-this bad- penthouse. well, what about like, this bad news like, can i add this bad news for-penthouse- like, can i add this bad news for penthouse visitor? for mike's penthouse visitor? heeawee— for mike's penthouse visitor? because remote _ for mike's penthouse visitor? because remote work- for mike's penthouse visitor? because remote work lifestyle to drop house prices by 10% for good. that's even worse. david miles, one of three members miles, one of the three members of obr, the office of the obr, the office for budget executive budget responsibility executive team, said he expected working from home to a permanent from home to be a permanent change that dampen house change that would dampen house price the next 3 price growth within the next 3 or 4 years. he predicted that people would further people would move further away from , lowering from city centres, lowering demand expensive properties demand for expensive properties in these areas and causing net in these areas and causing a net reduction in average level reduction in the average level of prices across the country. is that such a bad thing? no, it's not such a bad thing- 50ti ztt5t: 37 no, it's not such a bad thing because ~50ti 3t5t: 37 no, it's not such a bad thing because the yewhget— not such a bad thing because the yewhget-witi— not such a bad thing because the younger-will have- not such a bad thing because the younger will have got younger people will have got et— younger people will have got et a— younger people will have got more of a chance— younger people will have got more of a chance of getting onto the eteeetty— more of a chance of getting onto the property ladder— more of a chance of getting onto the property ladder. a lot of buy— the property ladder. a lot of hwy-tet— the property ladder. a lot of buy let landlords have buy to let landlords have eeiiihg— buy to let landlords have eeiiihg eit— buy to let landlords have selling off their properties heaee— selling off their properties heaee et— selling off their properties because of the— selling off their properties because of the massive amount of tax they-we— because of the massive amount of tax they-we-hit— because of the massive amount of tax they've - hit - so - tax they've been hit with. so there-e— tax they've been hit with. so thete-e ee— tax they've been hit with. so there's more properties in the market— there's more properties in the market ee— there's more properties in the market so that— there's more properties in the market so that younger people, thet— market so that younger people, titet tihe— market so that younger people, first time buyers,— market so that younger people, first time buyers, there's been a ewtge— first time buyers, there's been a ewtge th— first time buyers, there's been a surge in first— first time buyers, there's been a surge in first time buyers heaee— a surge in first time buyers because it's— a surge in first time buyers because it's still cheaper to have— because it's still cheaper to hawelhettgage- because it's still cheaper to have mortgage, even with the

have a mortgage, even with the ihteteet— have a mortgage, even with the interest rates— have a mortgage, even with the interest rates going up than it is interest rates going up than it ie te— interest rates going up than it ie te tent.— interest rates going up than it ie te teht. se— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in a— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in a way , it's is to rent. so in a way, it's a geet— is to rent. so in a way, it's a geet thing.— is to rent. so in a way, it's a good thing. listen, they went up haeeiweiy— good thing. listen, they went up massively dodi— good thing. listen, they went up massively dodi they up massively dodi they went up haeeiweiy.— massively dodi they went up massively-don't- massively dodi they went up massively. don't them massively dodi they went up- massively.-don't-them to massively. we don't need them to go massively. we don't need them to 90 up— massively. we don't need them to ge we ayee— massively. we don't need them to ge we ye te— massively. we don't need them to go up anymore to be honest. thie— go up anymore to be honest. this-hae— go up anymore to be honest. this-has a- go up anymore to be honest. this-has a flaw.- go up anymore to be honest. j this-has a flaw. and this this story has a flaw. and the is that supply and the flaw is that supply and demand. yeah, well, there's people still this people still coming to this country. housing is going to be needed. think housing, needed. i think housing, hewehg— needed. i think housing, heweihg, yew— :: i think housing, housing, you know, needed. i think housing, housing, you know, this housing, you know, watch this eeaee — housing, you know, watch this eeaee -te - housing, you know, watch this eeaee-te he- housing, you know, watch this space. -to be the. space. it's going to be the higgeet— space. it's going to be the biggest issue— space. it's going to be the biggest issue that we have. of course , in the— biggest issue that we have. of course , in the next couple of course, in the next couple of yeae— course, in the next couple of yeate et— course, in the next couple of years. of course,— course, in the next couple of years. of course, it's time years. of course, it's a time hehh. — years. of course, it's a time bomb. iremember- years. of course, it's a timei bomb. iremember-we years. of course, it's a time- bomb.iremember-we had bird bomb. remember when we had bird flu country? you know, flu in this country? you know, i have properties that have a few properties that i rent out and i of i've sold your property is to devalue by property is going to devalue by 50. i said, why ? i said, well, 50. i said, why? i said, well, so many people are going to die of bird flu. there'll be too much. there'll be much. no, seriously, there'll be too much property in this country . and i'm afraid you're country. and i'm afraid you're ruining the housing. what are clucking a single clucking idiots? not a single person died of flu. the person died of bird flu. the housing crisis spitting- housing crisis spitting teathete— housing crisis spitting - feathers._crisis housing crisis spitting- feathers._crisis is feathers. the housing crisis is going— feathers. the housing crisis is geihglhe— feathers. the housing crisis is geihglhe ewt— feathers. the housing crisis is going be our greatest. yeah, going to be our greatest. yeah, i going to be our greatest. yeah, i gee — going to be our greatest. yeah, i gee hwt— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. but it's— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. but it's a— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. 0 i agree. but it's a failure. it is a national failure. but both the labour and the conservative

government have not done what they needed to do, which is build the minimum of 350,000 houses per year. i totally agree. and now they're messing around . michael gove is messing around. michael gove is messing around. michael gove is messing around with all of the his white paper. around with all of the his white paper . yeah, some of it is good paper. yeah, some of it is good . some of it is a lot of it's dictated, a lot of it's isn't it. well it is. it is. but you know at the end of the day 30% of select landlords have fled the marketplace that what's that going to do. it's going to put the guys for renting. it the rent up guys for renting. it is no one will is bad my policy and no one will touch it is a million council houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet— houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet . — houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet . wee.— houses. it needs to be built or acquired . yes. not- it needs to be built or acquired. t/i;~5t wit why acquired. yes. not luxury for the next five years, let's say. yeah. it's probably sooner. who wttt— yeah. it's probably sooner. who wtu bund— yeah. it's probably sooner. who will build them? well,- yeah. it's probably sooner. �*ftmit cc z , well, who yeah. it's probably sooner. �*ftmit cc t: , well, who will will build them? well, who will fund— will build them? well, who will fund them?— will build them? well, who will fund them? well— will build them? well, who will fund them? well it's— will build them? well, who will fund them? well it's not- cc t: , well, who will fund them? well it's not just about— fund them? well it's not just about who— fund them? well it's not just about who will— fund them? well it's not just about who will fund them because i about who will fund them because t men— about who will fund them because t me— about who will fund them because i mean the sale— about who will fund them because i mean the sale of— about who will fund them because i mean the sale of council neneee. — i mean the sale of council houses. that— i mean the sale of council houses. that money has been going back to central government for the last since 1980. us yeah. yeah. so agree. so local governments have not had any of that money. they haven't got any to, money— that money. they haven't got any to, money te— that money. they haven't got any to, money to build— c�*tig they haven't got any to, money to build houses. h“it“i«t they haven't got any to, money to build houses. now do_.,_ to, money to build houses. now do_., yen- to, money to build houses. now

do_., you menl do you know what i, you know teeny— do you know what i, you know todaylwas_ do you know what i, you know todawaas really— do you know what i, you know today was really thinking, today i was really thinking, i thought— today i was really thinking, i thought yen— today i was really thinking, i thought, you know, in the 1930 mnem— thought, you know, in the 1930 nnen-eet— thought, you know, in the 1930 when got depression and war when we'd got depression and war and when we'd got depression and war meme—- when we'd got depression and war enemet— eennettel and 1940s outcome, our councils nuttetng— and 1940s outcome, our councils were building lidos_ and 1940s outcome, our councils were building lidos and schools, ttmenee— were building lidos and schools, libraries and— were building lidos and schools, libraries and libraries because they— libraries and libraries because they prioritised— libraries and libraries because they prioritised it. mii they prioritised it. how were they— they prioritised it. how were they doing that in the time of war and depression? i'll tell you why. because the welfare enme— you why. because the welfare state nee— you why. because the welfare state has reached— because the welfare state has reached unsustainable tenets— state has reached unsustainable tevete ene— state has reached unsustainable levels and it's— state has reached unsustainable levels and it's very unsustainable lives beyond its means. .know,- unsustainable lives beyond its means. .know, what- unsustainable lives beyond its means. unsustainable lives beyond its- means. .know, what does one means. you know, what does one say? about one third of all local council revenues now go on pensions for people who've been working the last 20 working there for the last 20 years, a job that's not years, doing a job that's not needed to be done. so can i just say, needed to be done. so can i just eey, new— needed to be done. so can i just eey, new mnem— needed to be done. so can i just say, how much money— needed to be done. so can i just say, how much money are- 3: : so can ijust say, how much money are they gentne— say, how much money are they gentng me— say, how much money are they getting the local— say, how much money are they getting the local from getting the local councils from parking — getting the local councils from parking nnee— getting the local councils from parking nnee e— getting the local councils from parking fines ? yeah. really? my parking fines? yeah. really? my god:— parking fines? yeah. really? my eee, buttone— parking fines? yeah. really? my god, billions .— parking fines? yeah. really? my god, billions. parking fines are met— god, billions. parking fines are met une— god, billions. parking fines are met ttke new— god, billions. parking fines are just like how much are they gentnee— just like how much are they getttnge they— just like how much are they getting? they could the getting? they could run the nnete — getting? they could run the whole country— getting? they could run the whole country on that. they centen— whole country on that. they could?-being- whole country on that. they- could?-being facetious whole country on that. they couldhonestly. being facetious whole country on that. they could honestly. yeah,1g facetious whole country on that. they could honestly. yeah, it'sacetious , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous— , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous. _ ’ bl” “onestlv- yeah, it's ridiculous . ”in?“ , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous . / git ridiculous. yeah. i've got to say that know many of my say that i know many of my viewers listeners will argue viewers and listeners will argue that no point building that there's no point building more houses if you don't at some point get immigration to a sustainable level. would you agree if agree with that? because if you've got net migration of

600,000, then that puts your million council into into million council houses into into basically drop in the ocean. it's a huge problem . yeah. and it's a huge problem. yeah. and mete-s— it's a huge problem. yeah. and mete-s ne— it's a huge problem. yeah. and there's no point.— it's a huge problem. yeah. and there's no point. you- it's a huge problem. yeah. and there's no point. you can't out build immigration. no no. i mean, one of the real issues enem— mean, one of the real issues about ente— mean, one of the real issues about this and— mean, one of the real issues about this and you know, is over the about this and you know, is over me teen— about this and you know, is over me teen t— about this and you know, is over the last, i don't— about this and you know, is over the last, i don't know, two neme— the last, i don't know, two yeete tnnee — the last, i don't know, two years, three years, we've had a mtttten— years, three years, we've had a mtttten peepte— years, three years, we've had a million people come in, but not anytntng— million people come in, but not anytntng eme— million people come in, but not anything else built for not not any— anything else built for not not any infrastructure. well the memen— any infrastructure. well the mentem te— any infrastructure. well the problem is no— any infrastructure. well the problem is no housing, no demen- — problem is no housing, no doctors. we're- problem is no housing, no doctors. �*ftti ”c: : “g problem is no housing, no doctors. t: “g doctors. we're building the wrong sort of properties because we need houses and we keep building flats. it's as simple as that's that's what as that. that's that's what flats. what fair flats. that's what another fair neme— flats. that's what another fair pent—tene- flats. that's what another fair pent—tote en- point said. listen, lots of emette— point said. listen, lots of emails coming- point said. listen, lots of emails coming in on a range of sum-eme— emails coming in on a range of sum-eee .— emails coming in on a range of sum-eee . t-ve— emails coming in on a range of subjects . i've got— emails coming in on a range of subjects . i've got to say a very subjects. i've got to say a very big— subjects. i've got to say a very mg enem— subjects. i've got to say a very mg story tn— subjects. i've got to say a very mg story tn me— subjects. i've got to say a very big story in the sun newspaper. were— big story in the sun newspaper. wee going— big story in the sun newspaper. wee getng te— big story in the sun newspaper. we're going to cover that next week.— we're going to cover that next ween-been— we're going to cover that next week. been asking, are to week. i've been asking, are to week. i've been asking, are to we nem— week. i've been asking, are to we hard-phillips- week. i've been asking, are to we hard phillips schofield? we hard on phillips schofield? remn— we hard on phillips schofield? mm eaye,— we hard on phillips schofield? mm eaye, nn— we hard on phillips schofield? ruth says, hi, mark. i don't enme— ruth says, hi, mark. i don't tntnk yen-ve— ruth says, hi, mark. i don't think you've been harsh on smmetn— think you've been harsh on schofield. i— think you've been harsh on schofield. i think his mayor ceme— schofield. i think his mayor cntne te— schofield. i think his mayor cntne te e— schofield. i think his mayor culpa is a desperate attempt to none— culpa is a desperate attempt to eteee n— culpa is a desperate attempt to eteee n newn— culpa is a desperate attempt to close it down before more unwise netettenentne— close it down before more unwise relationships come— close it down before more unwise relationships come to light. close it down before more unwise relationships come to light . and relationships come to light. and remn— relationships come to light. and mm gees— relationships come to light. and mm eeee en— relationships come to light. and mm gees en te— relationships come to light. and ruth goes on to say and of

course he's going to cry. homophobia— course he's going to cry. homophobia last resort of a demente— homophobia last resort of a desperate man— homophobia last resort of a desperate man .— homophobia last resort of a desperate man . discrimination. desperate man. discrimination. met— desperate man. discrimination. met ete— desperate man. discrimination. that old chestnut. i pity his memen— that old chestnut. i pity his metnen .— that old chestnut. i pity his metnet. t— that old chestnut. i pity his mother. i imagine having two une— mother. i imagine having two sons like she— mother. i imagine having two sons like she has— mother. i imagine having two sons like she has poor woman, remn- — sons like she has poor woman, remn- mete— sons like she has poor woman, ruth. there you— sons like she has poor woman, ruth. there you go. not pulling your— ruth. there you go. not pulling tent pumme— ruth. there you go. not pulling tent pnnenee. t— ruth. there you go. not pulling your punches. i love getting your— your punches. i love getting your emette— your punches. i love getting your emails. it's— your punches. i love getting your emails. it's always the meet— your emails. it's always the teen nn— your emails. it's always the been en en— your emails. it's always the best bit of the— your emails. it's always the best bit of the show. keep them comme— best bit of the show. keep them coming, margaret— best bit of the show. keep them coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next up, coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next “pt-pundits— coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next uplnnnene mu— coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next up,-pundits will be— up, my pundits will be nominating— up, my pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and nominating their headline heroes ene neck— nominating their headline heroes and neck page— nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes , plus that and back page zeroes, plus that neeettne— and back page zeroes, plus that neeettne tn— and back page zeroes, plus that headline in the— and back page zeroes, plus that headline in the sun. phillip senenete— headline in the sun. phillip schofield ipsis_ headline in the sun. phillip schofield ipsis elusive i fear neme— schofield ipsis elusive i fear netng spen— schofield ipsis elusive i fear netng spat — schofield ipsis elusive i fear being spat on. we'll discuss met— being spat on. we'll discuss met .—

next okay, i next- okay, well, | next- okay, well, look | next— okay, well, look , item— okay, well, look , more papers in okay, well, look, more papers in the okay, well, look, more papers in me company— okay, well, look, more papers in me company at— okay, well, look, more papers in the company of my— okay, well, look, more papers in the company of my top pundits. me— the company of my top pundits. tne ematte— the company of my top pundits. the emails are— the company of my top pundits. the emails are coming in thick ana— the emails are coming in thick and fast— the emails are coming in thick and fast ae— the emails are coming in thick and fast as well— the emails are coming in thick and fast as well ,_ the emails are coming in thick and fast as well, all regarding the schofield— and fast as well, all regarding the schofield story . mark dolan the schofield story. mark dolan tantam— the schofield story. mark dolan tenant te— the schofield story. mark dolan tonight is officially offering mm— tonight is officially offering ante young— tonight is officially offering this young man who's been hung, mann— this young man who's been hung,

atann ana— this young man who's been hung, drawn and quartered by the mem— drawn and quartered by the trees by— drawn and quartered by the press, by phillip schofield, a job press, by phillip schofield, a en en— press, by phillip schofield, a en en nam— press, by phillip schofield, a job on mark dolan tonight. i tntnk— job on mark dolan tonight. i tntnk ne— job on mark dolan tonight. i think he deserves it. apparently nee— think he deserves it. apparently ne-e emet— think he deserves it. apparently ne-e amen tn— think he deserves it. apparently he's stuck in the— think he deserves it. apparently he's stuck in the north of metana— he's stuck in the north of england pulling pints. gb news is england pulling pints. gb news te-neet— england pulling pints. gb news is-best newsroom- england pulling pints. gb news is best newsroom in the is the best newsroom in the mamm— is the best newsroom in the country. nett— is the best newsroom in the country. he'll be— is the best newsroom in the country. he'll be safe, he'll be teame— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after and— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after and there'll be no fanny—teta- looked after and there'll be no. fanny—ten yea, funny business. let me tell you, seamen— funny business. let me tell you, stepnen eate— funny business. let me tell you, stephen, said mark. you'd be better— stephen, said mark. you'd be been an— stephen, said mark. you'd be better off offering to the better off offering a job to the penan— better off offering a job to the teen they— better off offering a job to the person they sacked loose person they sacked from loose memen— person they sacked from loose women—mave- person they sacked from loose women _ move the i person they sacked from loose- women_move the young women in order to move the young -naa— man. schofield had a relationship- man. schofield had a relationship . i've got man. schofield had a- relationship-. i've got no relationship with. i've got no evtaenee— relationship with. i've got no evtaenee te— relationship with. i've got no evidence to back— relationship with. i've got no evidence to back that up, but mank— evidence to back that up, but mank yea— evidence to back that up, but anank you fat— evidence to back that up, but thank you for your email. stennen— thank you for your email. stephen you— thank you for your email. stephen you do wonder. don't you,— stephen you do wonder. don't yea, nnetnet— stephen you do wonder. don't you, whether there's more to ceme— you, whether there's more to tatte— you, whether there's more to come? mike you've got a nose for a stem. — come? mike you've got a nose for a stem. ne— come? mike you've got a nose for a stem. no yea— come? mike you've got a nose for a story. do you think— come? mike you've got a nose for a story. do you think there's te— a story. do you think there's more to come— a story. do you think there's more to come from this schofield atamae — more to come from this schofield atamae meat.— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as i've— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as i've already said on the show, i think this will this week the senior executives at itv are in front of commons committee. now, of a commons committee. now, you've truth you've got to tell the truth there. and it's all got to come out and those mps, when you've seen common committees, seen those common committees, they go for the jugular, they don't go for the jugular, don't so i think that will don't they? so i think that will come answer your come out. but to answer your question succinctly , there's question succinctly, there's something new coming out every

day. for instance , just two days day. for instance, just two days ago, i read alison boshoff in the daily mail revealing for the first time there'd been a payoff . there'd been a payoff. she said in her story there- t: she said in her story there to the young— said in her story there to the young — said in her story there to the young man. now,- said in her story there to the young man. witm young man. now, you know, these issues, put them all together and the scandal just grows and grows, doesn't it? well it does really. the senior management there must have known. it's impossible to believe that they didn't know what was going on. this lad is one of my colleagues here has already pointed out in the show already at was the show already at 18 was actually appearing the actually appearing live on the show and he was supposed to be a runner, you know, a kid would come along to start and he goes up to pick up the award at the nta, goes up to pick up the award nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the awasd nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the awas an nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the awas an elf nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the awas an elf orwita. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the awas an elf or something.;ed nta, goes up to pick up the awas an elf or something. no way a as an elf or something. no way tasting whisky there's no way that know all of that they didn't know all of them. that's i've heard . them. that's what i've heard. mement— them. that's what i've heard. including—thinkl including holly. yeah, i think so including holly. yeah, i think ee-tteten- including holly. yeah, i think so-listen, he- including holly. yeah, i think so-listen, he was. including holly. yeah, i think so listen, he was so so. because listen, he was so openly— so. because listen, he was so openly affectionate with the guy . team— openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera._ openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera. as— openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you nan-t— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you nan-t sen— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you nan-t son et— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you don't sort of say,— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh,— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? on, nee— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? on, me te— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh, he's 18 now.— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to man— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to man me— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to start the affair.— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to start the affair. there was a

naeketem— start the affair. there was a naeketem te— start the affair. there was a backstory to it.— start the affair. there was a backstory to it. what about the morning— backstory to it. what about the memtne eate— backstory to it. what about the morning cab? and— backstory to it. what about the morning cab? and also i'd like to eat— morning cab? and also i'd like to eat mat— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's not— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's not just about enum— to say that it's not just about phillip schofield _ to say that it's not just about phillip schofield field. it's anem— phillip schofield field. it's about ana— phillip schofield field. it's about and let's— phillip schofield field. it's about and let's be very clear, me— about and let's be very clear, the producers— about and let's be very clear, the producers that allowed this atmeennete— the producers that allowed this atmosphere of— the producers that allowed this atmosphere of absolute bullying , tyranny— atmosphere of absolute bullying .tytanny ana— atmosphere of absolute bullying , tyranny and tyranny to take mace— , tyranny and tyranny to take ntaee ana— , tyranny and tyranny to take ntaee and they— , tyranny and tyranny to take place and they got rid of all mane— place and they got rid of all tneee really— place and they got rid of all those really good people. well, it those really good people. well, tt nae— those really good people. well, n ven— those really good people. well, it was very worrying when seneneta— it was very worrying when schofield said— it was very worrying when schofield said to the bbc that mete— schofield said to the bbc that mete te— schofield said to the bbc that mete te ne— schofield said to the bbc that there is no culture of bullying on me— there is no culture of bullying on me enem— there is no culture of bullying on the show because it's an open semen — on the show because it's an open semen mete— on the show because it's an open secret. there is,— on the show because it's an open secret. there is, and— on the show because it's an open secret. there is, and therefore it makes you question everything. he said . yeah, i everything. he said. yeah, i think like a meghan markle moment , think like a meghan markle moment, isn't it? i think what perhaps— moment, isn't it? i think what pennane te— moment, isn't it? i think what perhaps is happening- e fl ithink what perhaps is happening is people teame— perhaps is happening is people teattee mat— perhaps is happening is people realise that this— perhaps is happening is people realise that this sort of stuff nannene— realise that this sort of stuff napnene ana— realise that this sort of stuff happens and they just thinking anem— happens and they just thinking about me— happens and they just thinking about the jemmy savile stuff and the about the jemmy savile stuff and be way— about the jemmy savile stuff and be way tnat— about the jemmy savile stuff and the way that everyone knew about that the way that everyone knew about mat and — the way that everyone knew about that and everybody— the way that everyone knew about that and everybody went, oh bean— that and everybody went, oh yean nett— that and everybody went, oh yean, web we— that and everybody went, oh yeah, well we didn't say because he yeah, well we didn't say because ne atom-t— yeah, well we didn't say because ne attn-t eay. — yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and— yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and i— yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and i think the country— he didn't say. and i think the country to— he didn't say. and i think the country is probably now tbtnbtna— country is probably now thinking, hang on a minute , are thinking, hang on a minute, are they— thinking, hang on a minute, are me doing— thinking, hang on a minute, are me doing tte— thinking, hang on a minute, are they doing it? you— thinking, hang on a minute, are they doing it? you know, is this is they doing it? you know, is this be me— they doing it? you know, is this is this another— they doing it? you know, is this is this another one— they doing it? you know, is this is this another one of those momentee— is this another one of those moments? daniel moments? yeah but daniel wants

to—batt— moments? yeah but daniel wants to—bata tot- moments? yeah but daniel wants to—bata tot tne- to know, was he paid for the tntenten— to know, was he paid for the tntenten on— to know, was he paid for the interview on the— to know, was he paid for the interview on the board? ’“ interview on the board? the sun ? interview on the board? the sun e-unuemtanu.— interview on the board? the sun ? understand, daniel, that ? and i understand, daniel, that he now. but also, he was not paid now. but also, you know, he was not paid now. but also, you mow, beobte— he was not paid now. but also, you know, people in— he was not paid now. but also, you know, people in that- you know, people in that ettuatton— you know, people in that situation who _ you know, people in that situation who are working at ”v,— situation who are working at .w, ton-t— situation who are working at itv, don't forget— situation who are working at itv, don't forget it's their jobs— itv, don't forget it's their tobe on— itv, don't forget it's their tobe on me— itv, don't forget it's their jobs on the line. they're mentenet— jobs on the line. they're frightened after that huge cull nabbenet— frightened after that huge cull nabbenet ant— frightened after that huge cull happened and they're frightened for happened and they're frightened tot tnett— happened and they're frightened tot tnett tobe— happened and they're frightened for their jobs. they're self embtoyea— for their jobs. they're self embtoyet .— for their jobs. they're self employed . and when you're employed. and when you're self—employed— employed. and when you're self—employed and a lot of them and a— self—employed and a lot of them and a bot— self—employed and a lot of them and a bot ot— self—employed and a lot of them and a lot of them— self—employed and a lot of them and a lot of them were on staff , sot— and a lot of them were on staff , you— and a lot of them were on staff , you know,— and a lot of them were on staff , so, you know, i've— and a lot of them were on staff , so, you know, i've already eate— , so, you know, i've already eata tney— , so, you know, i've already said they changed the job title to — said they changed the job title to beobte— said they changed the job title to move people sideways and to get no— to move people sideways and to get no ot— to move people sideways and to get rid of them.— to move people sideways and to get rid of them. it's appalling benavtout— get rid of them. it's appalling benavtout. — get rid of them. it's appalling behaviour. “t; behaviour. speaking of outrageous, caroline outrageous, by the way, caroline flack's done an flack's mother has done an interview bbc about the interview with the bbc about the controversy over philip schofield's affair with a younger colleague , and his younger male colleague, and his comments concerned comments last night concerned his her daughter. caroline flack says the broadcaster hasn't learned from its mistakes surrounding her daughter's death and says on screen, talent must be protected. take a listen. oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anything-— oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anytntne. they— oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anything. they haven't . "cat anything. they haven't. they treat— anything. they haven't. they tteat mem— anything. they haven't. they treat them as— anything. they haven't. they treat them as commodities. and i know it's a lovely job and i know it's a lovely job and i

know they earn money. but also the television stations that earn money from them and but they're not commodities. they're people. and they're employed. and if my employee didn't take care of me, there'd be all hell to pay . but what do you think, to pay. but what do you think, butte— to pay. but what do you think, tube about— to pay. but what do you think, mike, about the _ to pay. but what do you think, mike, about the fact- but what do you think, mike, about the fact that nnttbb — mike, about the fact that phillip schofield invoked the memory— phillip schofield invoked the memory ot— phillip schofield invoked the memory of caroline flack , who memory of caroline flack, who took— memory of caroline flack, who took net— memory of caroline flack, who took her life— memory of caroline flack, who took her life because of media bteeeutee — took her life because of media pressure? well,— took her life because of media pressure? well, she- took her life because of media pressure? well, she took her life because of the situation in which she found herself. she'd been suspended from her job been suspended from herjob because of a public spat. you know, or spat that became public court domestic abuse court case, domestic abuse allegations and all this kind of stuff, but i think stuff, you know, but i think that's i think that's getting right down and dirty. i think when you're trying to protect your reputation, when you your own reputation, when you invoke the tragic death of a colleague in the same business by insinuating, you know , if by insinuating, you know, if people don't stop criticising me , you know, i could go the same way as caroline flack. and the other thing i thought, which wasn't terribly, um , tasteful, wasn't terribly, um, tasteful,

wasn't terribly, um, tasteful, was saying that without his two daughters, two grown up daughters, two grown up daughters, he wouldn't be here. i mean, you know , what sort of i mean, you know, what sort of pressure is that putting on his daughters? so the only thing keeping your father alive is the fact you you're here fact that, you know, you're here to him and we haven't to support him and we haven't heard one word or or one voice for phillip schofield's wife. have we? not? one word. no one. the real victim. you know what he the real victim. you know what be be. — the real victim. you know what he is. and also, you know, to live with a guy for all that time. and then he came out as gay, maybe she knew. and they had an arrangement. but i felt so sorry for her. and also the girls, the two daughters. i mean, what he's done to his family during all this time is unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well,— unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well, let's— unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well, let's get- l. t it's a real shocker. well, let's get now to you— shocker. well, let's get now to your nomination— shocker. well, let's get now to your nomination for headline netoee— your nomination for headline netoee ant— your nomination for headline heroes and back— your nomination for headline heroes and back page zeros. and i heroes and back page zeros. and t moneta— heroes and back page zeros. and t uonett m— heroes and back page zeros. and i wonder if schofield is a zero or i wonder if schofield is a zero on a bebo— i wonder if schofield is a zero or a hero who— i wonder if schofield is a zero or a hero who have you got for me— or a hero who have you got for me as your hero?— or a hero who have you got for me as your hero? hero people who nonb— me as your hero? hero people who want m— me as your hero? hero people who work in chip shops, everybody who works in a chip. hooray! and they work late and they do a great— and they work late and they do a great tob— and they work late and they do a great tob ant— and they work late and they do a great job and they— and they work late and they do a great job and they keep and great job and they keep us and it's

great job and they keep us and tt-eleteat— great job and they keep us and it'slgreat product— great job and they keep us and it's great product and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: at product and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: roduct and we love great job and they keep us and it's '“t: e s“and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: e ve love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: e �*" 3.ve it. and the british love fish and chips and it helped us win the war. fish yeah, and also tones— the war. fish yeah, and also tonee tote— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it.— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. _ the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. i— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. i grew- fish yeah, and also tories love it. 3 e. fish yeah, and also tories love it. 3 l. tories love it. i grew up over fish chip shop. my parents fish and chip shop. my parents had a fish and chip shop. well, you up and chip you turned up fish and chip snobs—at- you turned up fish and chip snobs—at an- you turned up fish and chip- shops_at an enormous shops are closing at an enormous tate— shops are closing at an enormous tate beaue— shops are closing at an enormous rate because they— shops are closing at an enormous rate because they cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit.se they cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now ay cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now the annot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now the government any profit. now the government must—nou- any profit. now the governmenti must—noulyou must have oil briefly now if you can-nominate— must have oil briefly now if you can nominate headline can just nominate your headline netoee. — can just nominate your headline netoee. tantam— can just nominate your headline heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn names.— heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn notmee. bamom— heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn holmes. eamonn being— heroes. eamonn. eamonn holmes. eamonn being heroic for being— holmes. eamonn being heroic for betne eo— holmes. eamonn being heroic for betne eo .— holmes. eamonn being heroic for betne eo , eo— holmes. eamonn being heroic for being so , so honest— holmes. eamonn being heroic for being so , so honest every thing being so, so honest every thing he being so, so honest every thing ne eate— being so, so honest every thing be eata t— being so, so honest every thing he said i know— being so, so honest every thing he said i know personally evemtntng— he said i know personally everything he— he said i know personally everything he said was true. and abo— everything he said was true. and ateo tot— everything he said was true. and also for speaking— everything he said was true. and also for speaking up for the underdog. — also for speaking up for the underdog. well— also for speaking up for the underdog. �*fttill t: it: underdog. well said. mike, briefly if you can, your headune briefly if you can, your headline hero. my hero is professor— headline hero. my hero is professor kathleen- : iit my hero is professor kathleen stock. she went— professor kathleen stock. she went to— professor kathleen stock. she went to me— professor kathleen stock. she went to the oxford union and she taeet— went to the oxford union and she taeet tonn— went to the oxford union and she taeet town a— went to the oxford union and she faced down a mob— went to the oxford union and she faced down a mob of between 3 or boo— faced down a mob of between 3 or boo beobte— faced down a mob of between 3 or boo beobte uno— faced down a mob of between 3 or 400 people who basically object to net— 400 people who basically object to net being— 400 people who basically object to her being there— 400 people who basically object to her being there because she nae— to her being there because she ban a— to her being there because she has a different— to her being there because she has a different point of view in life has a different point of view in me to— has a different point of view in me to me— has a different point of view in life to the one— has a different point of view in life to the one they have. and be— life to the one they have. and mm to— life to the one they have. and tnte be one— life to the one they have. and this is one of— life to the one they have. and this is one of our— life to the one they have. and this is one of our top universities- this is one of our top universities ,- this is one of our top universities , too, right? universities, too, right? tentbte— universities, too, right? terrible. right.- universities, too, right? terrible. right. - universities, too, right? right. �*fttill universities, too, right? - terrible. right. well, names only. now you're back. page zero. nadine zahawi zahawi. he just gets on my nerves, wit: he

just gets on my nerves, okay? neb— just gets on my nerves, okay? ne-a subpoena— just gets on my nerves, okay? he's supporting getting- just gets on my nerves, okay? he's supporting getting rid of inheritance tax . yeah, that's inheritance tax. yeah, that's me— inheritance tax. yeah, that's me only— inheritance tax. yeah, that's me ont. tntne— inheritance tax. yeah, that's the only thing he— “i f 33x yeah, that's the only thing he does is try ana— the only thing he does is try and une— the only thing he does is try and line his— the only thing he does is try and line his pockets . and line his pockets. okay, mute.— and line his pockets. okay, lizzie, briefly,— and line his pockets. okay, lizzie, briefly, if you can, your back. page zero, putin's russia for taking 19,000 ukrainian children and kidnapping them basically , and kidnapping them basically, and taking them into monster mike year zero your back page zero football managerjose mourinho football manager jose mourinho for bullying a referee who made a couple of decisions in a match that went against jose's team. utterly disgraceful. outrageous. - utterly disgraceful. outrageous. can- utterly disgraceful. outrageous. can i thank my fabulous pundits tonight? i think you'll agree they did a brilliant job. they will be back soon. i agree. thanks my team soon. i agree. thanks to my team as working so hard as well for working so hard today. and most importantly to you this show you for your company. this show is without you. i'm back is nothing without you. i'm back tomorrow 9:00 11, so tomorrow from 9:00 till 11, so do us then. headliners is do join us then. headliners is next. see you tomorrow

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