surgery performs gender swaps surgery every— performs gender swaps surgery every day— performs gender swaps surgery every day of— performs gender swaps surgery every dry or re— performs gender swaps surgery every day of the year , here is every day of the year, here is the— every day of the year, here is re purvey— every day of the year, here is the publicly funded nhs now in the publicly funded nhs now in the grip— the publicly funded nhs now in re grip of— the publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans— the publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans ideology . the grip of trans ideology. at the grip of trans ideology. ar 9:00,— the grip of trans ideology. ar 9:00, re— the grip of trans ideology. at 9:00, in my— the grip of trans ideology. at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing— at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with— at 9:00, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with woke nationwide tide be dealing with woke nationwide tree are— be dealing with woke nationwide tree and r— be dealing with woke nationwide tide and it might— be dealing with woke nationwide tide and it might take at ten truth— tide and it might take at ten some truth bombs about phillip sererrere— some truth bombs about phillip schofield and— some truth bombs about phillip schofield and holly willoughby. he creme— schofield and holly willoughby. he claims homophobe phobia. is rhet— he claims homophobe phobia. is that true?— he claims homophobe phobia. is that true-t try— he claims homophobe phobia. is that true? my response at ten ptue— that true? my response at ten ptue vvttt— that true? my response at ten ptue vvttt te— that true? my response at ten plus will be hearing from the trttttert— plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv— plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv star. _ plus will be hearing from the brilliant tv star. and this merrtrte— brilliant tv star. and this morning regular kim woodburn. tote— morning regular kim woodburn. tote te— morning regular kim woodburn. tote to get— morning regular kim woodburn. lots to get through . a big three lots to get through. a big three toure— lots to get through. a big three tours to— lots to get through. a big three hours to come.— lots to get through. a big three hours to come. it's— lots to get through. a big three hours to come. it's friday mett— hours to come. it's friday night ee— hours to come. it's friday night, so the— hours to come. it's friday night, so the weekend starts here.— night, so the weekend starts here. tut— night, so the weekend starts here. put something cold and ttzzy— here. put something cold and ttzzy tr— here. put something cold and ttzzy tn the— here. put something cold and fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you ate— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you etter tre— fizzy in the fridge and i'll see you after the headlines with the etvveye— you after the headlines with the etvveye ttzzy— you after the headlines with the always fizzy bethan plc .

always fizzy bethan plc. mark, tttnt— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, thank you.— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, thank you. here's— always fizzy bethan plc. mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the newsroom. boris johnson says he's sent unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry, bypassing the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an old phone that's locked due to security concerns. it has discussions on it from before may 2021. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mr johnson's yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's messages over all mr johnson's messages and diaries . a 19 year old has and diaries. a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and military. planning terror attacks on the police and military . matthew police and military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and became radicalised dunng islam and became radicalised during the covid lockdown . the during the covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother , who judge praised his mother, who reported him to the prevent counter terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the

right thing . at least 50 people right thing. at least 50 people have been killed and 350 hospitalised after two passenger trains collided with a goods trains collided with a goods train in india. trains collided with a goods train in india . officials say train in india. officials say the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were carried to ambulance as rescue operations are underway . 20 operations are underway. 20 people have now been arrested in relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who was 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were pursued by police . cctv shows pursued by police. cctv shows the boys on an electric bike being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in the riots . phillip schofield says

riots. phillip schofield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague at this morning. the 61 year old resigned from itv last week after admitting to the affair and says he'll comply with an external review commissioned by the broadcaster . schofield has the broadcaster. schofield has hit out at what he describes as relentless criticism . um and relentless criticism. um and told the bbc he feels ashamed and sorry, but insists he didn't groom him. i was a completely trreeert— groom him. i was a completely innocent backwards— g " i was a completely innocent backwards and forwards e pertet— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of time about a job,— over a period of time about a yet, about— over a period of time about a job, about careers— over a period of time about a job, about careers . you know, i job, about careers. you know, i you to— job, about careers. you know, i mean, you do that— job, about careers. you know, i mean, you do that . what's what's mean, you do that. what's what's wrong— mean, you do that. what's what's vvroug vvttt— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that?— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that? what was unwise was wrong with that? what was unwise tte — wrong with that? what was unwise tte toot— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it happened out— was the fact that it happened out trot— was the fact that it happened and that was— was the fact that it happened and that was a— was the fact that it happened and that was a very, very grave uovv, rt— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was consensual, tut— error. now, it was consensual, tut rt— error. now, it was consensual, tut tt woe— error. now, it was consensual, tut tt my— error. now, it was consensual, but it was my fault . more but it was my fault. more tterupttou— but it was my fault. more disruption for— but it was my fault. more disruption for holidaymakers as eeeurtty— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at heathrow atroort— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike actor— airport announce further strike oettou tute— airport announce further strike action this summer. " action this summer. unite the untou— action this summer. unite the union says its members will

stage 33 days of industry action in a dispute over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from mid—june to the end of august. every weekend from mid—june to the end of august . you're up to the end of august. you're up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to . back to. mark great to have bethany elsey back. she returns at nine. vvetoorue— back. she returns at nine. vvetoorue to— back. she returns at nine. welcome to mark- f she returns at nine. welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy— welcome to mark dolan tonight. uoppy trttoy— welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy friday- one— welcome to mark dolan tonight. happy friday. one and all. is torto— happy friday. one and all. is boris johnson— happy friday. one and all. is boris johnson trying to destroy trott— boris johnson trying to destroy rishi sunak's_ boris johnson trying to destroy rishi sunak's government? i'll be tortuo— rishi sunak's government? i'll be asking maverick tory mp and torto— be asking maverick tory mp and torts supporter— be asking maverick tory mp and boris supporter michael totrtoout— boris supporter michael fabricant as— boris supporter michael fabricant as a gp asks new parente— fabricant as a gp asks new parents rt— fabricant as a gp asks new parents if their— fabricant as a gp asks new parents if their baby is trans out— parents if their baby is trans out oe— parents if their baby is trans out to the— parents if their baby is trans and as the health service now pertorrue— and as the health service now performs gender— and as the health service now performs gender swap surgery every— performs gender swap surgery every toy— performs gender swap surgery every toy ,— performs gender swap surgery every toy , trove— performs gender swap surgery every day , have they cured every day, have they cured te— every day, have they cured cancer? is the _ every day, have they cured cancer? is the publicly funded tus— cancer? is the publicly funded uus ou— cancer? is the publicly funded uus tu— cancer? is the publicly funded nhs now in the— cancer? is the publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans tteotogye— nhs now in the grip of trans ideology? meanwhile, i'll be

epeottug— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be epeottrg to— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be epeottrg to o— ideology? meanwhile, i'll be speaking to a 34 year old man who— speaking to a 34 year old man who toe— speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable— speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable bowel cancer, all who has incurable bowel cancer, at because— who has incurable bowel cancer, all because the— who has incurable bowel cancer, all because the nhs turned into all because the nhs turned into o cowo— all because the nhs turned into o covto outy— all because the nhs turned into a covid only service during the ooutemto— a covid only service during the poutemto .— a covid only service during the portemto . te— a covid only service during the pandemic . he tells his pandemic. he tells his incredible— pandemic. he tells his incredible story in just a few mtuutee— incredible story in just a few rutuutee. rt— incredible story in just a few minutes. it might take a turn tottovvtue— minutes. it might take a turn following his— minutes. it might take a turn following his bombshell tutervtevv— following his bombshell interview with the sun newspaper.— interview with the sun newspaper. i'm not buying philip sotottett-e— newspaper. i'm not buying philip schofield's crocodile tears as tortgtt-e— schofield's crocodile tears as tonight's newsmaker is the teorteee— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star— tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn, vvto-tt— fearless tv star kim woodburn, vvto-tt te— fearless tv star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping more truth toute— who'll be dropping more truth torute otout— who'll be dropping more truth bombs about the _ who'll be dropping more truth bombs about the schofield saga . bombs about the schofield saga. mort— bombs about the schofield saga. mort notor— bombs about the schofield saga. mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home ot the— mark dolan tonight is the home ot the papers— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's trout— of the papers with tomorrow's trout pages— of the papers with tomorrow's trout oogee ot— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 store. — front pages at exactly 1030 etorp. ttue— front pages at exactly 1030 sharp. plus your emails, eepeetotty— sharp. plus your emails, especially the- sharp. plus your emails, especially the spicy ones . especially the spicy ones. market— especially the spicy ones. mortet ee— especially the spicy ones. market gb news .com . lots to get market gb news .com. lots to get through.— market gb news .com. lots to get through. wett— market gb news .com. lots to get through. we'll start— market gb news .com. lots to get through. we'll start with this . through. we'll start with this. there-e— through. we'll start with this. there's trouble— through. we'll start with this. there's trouble in the corridors of there's trouble in the corridors ot oovver — there's trouble in the corridors ot power a— there's trouble in the corridors of power. a deadline has passed for of power. a deadline has passed tor the— of power. a deadline has passed for the government to hand over whatsapp— for the government to hand over whatsapp messages to the covid tututry— whatsapp messages to the covid troutry. rt— whatsapp messages to the covid troutry. rt woe— whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. it was given until 4 pro.— inquiry. it was given until 4 p-m- yeetertoy— inquiry. it was given until 4 pm. yesterday to disclose those

p.m. yesterday to disclose those messages between— p.m. yesterday to disclose those messages between boris johnson and messages between boris johnson out rte— messages between boris johnson and his advisers— messages between boris johnson and his advisers during the portemto— and his advisers during the portemto .— and his advisers during the pandemic , as— and his advisers during the pandemic , as well as his diaries pandemic, as well as his diaries out— pandemic, as well as his diaries and notebooks.— pandemic, as well as his diaries and notebooks. but the government _ and notebooks. but the government have refused to share ot— government have refused to share ot the— government have refused to share some of the material, arguing it's some of the material, arguing to rot— some of the material, arguing it's not relevant— some of the material, arguing it's not relevant to the troutry-e— it's not relevant to the inquiry's work. this could end inquiry's work. this could end to o— inquiry's work. this could end to o tegot— inquiry's work. this could end in a legal battle.— inquiry's work. this could end in a legal battle. well, in a sense , national— in a legal battle. well, in a sense , national development. sense, national development. torto— sense, national development. boris johnson— sense, national development. boris johnson has gone over the teete— boris johnson has gone over the heats ot— boris johnson has gone over the heads of downing— boris johnson has gone over the heads of downing street and trott— heads of downing street and ttett suret— heads of downing street and rishi sunak to— heads of downing street and rishi sunak to send the covid troutry— rishi sunak to send the covid troutry ott— rishi sunak to send the covid troutry ott ot— rishi sunak to send the covid inquiry all of the— rishi sunak to send the covid inquiry all of the messages that they— inquiry all of the messages that they trove— inquiry all of the messages that they have requested. let's get they have requested. let's get the vtevve— they have requested. let's get the views now— they have requested. let's get the views now of— they have requested. let's get the views now of the conservative - the views now of the conservative mp for lichfield, mtetoet— conservative mp for lichfield, michael fabricant . michael, is michael fabricant. michael, is tute— michael fabricant. michael, is ttte ou— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack on— michael fabricant. michael, is this an attack on rishi sunak. uovv— this an attack on rishi sunak. now we've lost— this an attack on rishi sunak. now we've lost the audio to utotoet— now we've lost the audio to michael fabricant, which many vvoutt— michael fabricant, which many vvoutt argue— michael fabricant, which many would argue is— michael fabricant, which many would argue is a— michael fabricant, which many would argue is a mixed blessing and would argue is a mixed blessing out utt— would argue is a mixed blessing and will definitely— would argue is a mixed blessing and will definitely get his vtevve— and will definitely get his views shortly.— and will definitely get his views shortly. but it is astonishing- views shortly. but it is astonishing because essentially the government— astonishing because essentially the government do not want all of the government do not want all ot ttoee— the government do not want all of those whatsapp messages to go to-covtu— of those whatsapp messages to go to-covto troutry— of those whatsapp messages to go to-covto troutry .— of those whatsapp messages to go to covid inquiry. they were to the covid inquiry. they were vvttttug— to the covid inquiry. they were vvttttue to— to the covid inquiry. they were vvttttrg to go— to the covid inquiry. they were vvttttrg to go to— to the covid inquiry. they were willing to go to court over it in willing to go to court over it to outer— willing to go to court over it to order to—

willing to go to court over it in order to actually win that tottte. — in order to actually win that battle. well— in order to actually win that battle. well boris has done a utter— battle. well boris has done a rather sneaky— battle. well boris has done a rather sneaky thing and sent the motertot— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway .— rather sneaky thing and sent the material anyway . say some of the material anyway. say some of the motertot— material anyway. say some of the motertot tot— material anyway. say some of the material had to— material anyway. say some of the material had to be— material anyway. say some of the material had to be dredged out of material had to be dredged out ot o— material had to be dredged out ot u very— material had to be dredged out ot u very ott— material had to be dredged out of a very old phone , probably of a very old phone, probably a totte— of a very old phone, probably a uotto tutor— of a very old phone, probably a nokia brick that— of a very old phone, probably a nokia brick that boris was using tetore— nokia brick that boris was using tetore zozt. — nokia brick that boris was using before 2021. but— nokia brick that boris was using before 2021. but what do you tinte— before 2021. but what do you think? should— before 2021. but what do you think? should rishi sunak be shortne— think? should rishi sunak be etortug ott— think? should rishi sunak be sharing all of— think? should rishi sunak be sharing all of that material? i vvoutt— sharing all of that material? i vvoutt argue— sharing all of that material? i would argue that— sharing all of that material? i would argue that nothing should be would argue that nothing should te ureter— would argue that nothing should be uuter urete— would argue that nothing should be under wraps after all those pouteruto— be under wraps after all those pandemic measures has affected all pandemic measures has affected at ot— pandemic measures has affected at ot — pandemic measures has affected all of us. affected— pandemic measures has affected all of us. affected the economy, otteotet— all of us. affected the economy, affected school— all of us. affected the economy, affected school closures . i want affected school closures. i want trot— affected school closures. i want that paper— affected school closures. i want that paper trail.— affected school closures. i want that paper trail. so— affected school closures. i want that paper trail. so we've got all that paper trail. so we've got at ot— that paper trail. so we've got at ot trot— that paper trail. so we've got all of that to— that paper trail. so we've got all of that to debate and we'll tetote— all of that to debate and we'll tetote trot— all of that to debate and we'll debate that with— all of that to debate and we'll debate that with michael totrtoout— debate that with michael fabricant .— debate that with michael fabricant . oh, he's back. he's fabricant. oh, he's back. he's toot— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's toot tu— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's toot tn the— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room .— fabricant. oh, he's back. he's back in the room . i was about to back in the room. i was about to ten— back in the room. i was about to tett you— back in the room. i was about to tett you wrote— back in the room. i was about to tell you what's on— back in the room. i was about to tell you what's on my mind, but tru — tell you what's on my mind, but tru tettettet— tell you what's on my mind, but i'm delighted to— tell you what's on my mind, but i'm delighted to say that tory mp-fabricant,- i'm delighted to say that tory mp fabricant, you'll mp michael fabricant, you'll never—teete- mp michael fabricant, you'll never—again on. mp michael fabricant, you'll. never—again on this never be silenced again on this programme— never be silenced again on this programme .— never be silenced again on this programme ime— never be silenced again on this programme , me you. programme, let me tell you. ateotutety— programme, let me tell you. ateotutety — programme, let me tell you. absolutely fg programme, let me tell you. absolutely fcd till programme, let me tell you. absolutely fcd ll absolutely technology will never overpower me or boris. now will, michael fabricant is this a scorched earth policy on the part of boris johnson? what's he up to ? i think he's just trying up to? i think he's just trying to be absolutely open. he gave

his first phone, the most recent phone, and then he said he would give his old phone. and i know that he had to change his phone because i knew he had a new phone number and all the rest of it. and they've given him they've given him the phone there as well. so he's handed everything in. but of course, what's going to be interesting is what is actually on the phone now, baroness hallett has said that she's not going to publicise anything, which has nothing to do with covid, but i dare say there's a lot of interesting stuff. i know there's a lot of interesting stuff on my whatsapps with various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested— various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested in— various friends. yeah, well, i'm more interested in the- : yeah, well, i'm more interested in the pictures on more interested in the pictures or your— more interested in the pictures on your whatsapp rather than the messages. michael— on your whatsapp rather than the messages. michael but listen , messages. michael but listen, tet-e— messages. michael but listen, tet-e tott— messages. michael but listen, let's talk about— messages. michael but listen, let's talk about rishi sunak wrote— let's talk about rishi sunak wrote re— let's talk about rishi sunak vvtot-e he got— let's talk about rishi sunak what's he got to hide ? well what's he got to hide? well i mean, we're just— what's he got to hide? well i mean, we're just speculating, rent— mean, we're just speculating, t we? — mean, we're just speculating, rent vvee tor— mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all- mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all i- mean, we're just speculating, aren't we? for all i know, there may have been arguments. i'm just completely guessing and speculating, but maybe there were arguments between rishi when he was chancellor and boris one when he was prime minister.

that's what 1 or 2 journalists have speculated . and maybe there have speculated. and maybe there was even , i don't know, was even, i don't know, arguments about who should be the future leader . we can only the future leader. we can only guess. the future leader. we can only guess . but the future leader. we can only guess. but it's very, very interesting stuff. it's not a good look , though,- "gig”tznzvl g it's not a good look , though, is ”tiitivl g it's not a good look , though, is it, “giiisl “g it's not a good look , though, is it, for good look, though, is it, for the— good look, though, is it, for the government— good look, though, is it, for the government to push back in tute— the government to push back in ttte voy— the government to push back in ttte way out— the government to push back in this way and risk— the government to push back in this way and risk a— the government to push back in this way and risk a legal battle ? this way and risk a legal battle 7 mot-e— this way and risk a legal battle 7 tttt-s rtgtt— this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and- this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and in- this way and risk a legal battle ? that's right. and in fact, a government minister has said that he doesn't even think that the legal battle is winnable. so i do sometimes think, you know, if you don't think you can win a battle, don't go into it in the first place. but it's not a good look. but i do understand what the government's talking about . the government's talking about. you see a lot of decisions are made after informal discussions between civil servants and other civil servants , civil servants civil servants, civil servants and ministers and between ministers and ministers. now, if all of that is going to be in the open, then i think a lot of the open, then i think a lot of the decisions that are made by government will be hampered. so it's quite an interesting little

area of legal points here. whether or not we should make stuff which is irrelevant , you stuff which is irrelevant, you know, available to the hallett inquiry, which after all is only to be on covid. well, yeah, epeotmg— to be on covid. well, yeah, epeotmg ot— to be on covid. well, yeah, speaking of covid,- “tit“ co “j well, yeah, speaking of covid, you've always teen— speaking of covid, you've always teem tte— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter of— speaking of covid, you've always been the arbiter of common sense of been the arbiter of common sense ot truth— been the arbiter of common sense ot trutt .— been the arbiter of common sense ot trutt , ot— been the arbiter of common sense of truth , of probity. _ been the arbiter of common sense of truth , of probity. flatter me of truth, of probity. flatter me , tutotoet— of truth, of probity. flatter me , michael fabricant. let me tell you— , michael fabricant. let me tell you ,— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , reticent,— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , fabricant, for— , michael fabricant. let me tell you , fabricant, for pm, we can you, fabricant, for pm, we can tore— you, fabricant, for pm, we can tore tut— you, fabricant, for pm, we can dare but dream.— you, fabricant, for pm, we can dare but dream. but i'm worried about— dare but dream. but i'm worried about tute— dare but dream. but i'm worried about this cowo— dare but dream. but i'm worried about this covid inquiry. i'm vvorrtet— about this covid inquiry. i'm vvorrtet tt-e— about this covid inquiry. i'm worried it's going to be a otter— worried it's going to be a etttot up— worried it's going to be a etttetr up m— worried it's going to be a stitch up in which a generation of stitch up in which a generation ot pottttotme— stitch up in which a generation of politicians and— stitch up in which a generation of politicians and public health otttetote— of politicians and public health officials will— of politicians and public health officials will just— of politicians and public health officials will just try to demonstrate - officials will just try to demonstrate they did the right tttmg— demonstrate they did the right ttmg vvteu— demonstrate they did the right thing when many would argue, metuttmg— thing when many would argue, tmotutmg tre— thing when many would argue, including the highly respected troteeeor— including the highly respected professor carroll— including the highly respected professor carroll sikora, the cancer oncologist first, that toottovvm— cancer oncologist first, that lockdowns were _ cancer oncologist first, that lockdowns were the biggest mtetote — lockdowns were the biggest mistake ever.— lockdowns were the biggest mistake ever. will the truth out about— mistake ever. will the truth out about cowo— mistake ever. will the truth out about covm and— mistake ever. will the truth out about covid and whether the measures worked ? t:tit“ c measures worked? i don't think so.the measures worked? i don't think so. the point is that if you look at the death rates , look at the death rates, actually, we did quite well in the uk. we did better than germany . we were about the same

germany. we were about the same as france . but you know, sweden as france. but you know, sweden adopted a different policy. sweden just said, you know what, you use your common sense and you use your common sense and are you use your common sense and are all right there. so not densely populated as a country, as the united kingdom. you know, we've got 70 million people on a small island and that's pretty dense population. but having said all that, will it actually teach us any lessons for years to come? should there be another pandemic? i'm not sure. i'm not sure we're going to learn anything out of it. and as you quite rightly say , i think it'll quite rightly say, i think it'll all be about the civil servants trying to show that they were right and ministers were wrong . right and ministers were wrong. but that won't help us in the future either. michael, before we future either. michael, before vve tet— future either. michael, before we tet you— future either. michael, before we tet you get— future either. michael, before we let you get to— future either. michael, before we let you get to that- ”c: i; michael, before we let you get to that friday mgtt— we let you get to that friday mtgtt gtoee— we let you get to that friday mtgtt gtoee ot— we let you get to that friday night glass of chablis extra mutteri— night glass of chablis extra aired, o— night glass of chablis extra chilled, a quick— night glass of chablis extra chilled, a quick response from you— chilled, a quick response from you or— chilled, a quick response from you or the— chilled, a quick response from you on the phillip schofield tromo — you on the phillip schofield tromo te— you on the phillip schofield drama. is he— you on the phillip schofield drama. is he the victim of a tomoptotto— drama. is he the victim of a homophobic witch hunt ? drama. is he the victim of a homophobic witch hunt? t:tit“ c homophobic witch hunt? i don't ttmt— homophobic witch hunt? i don't ttmt so— homophobic witch hunt? i don't ttmt so .— homophobic witch hunt? i don't ttmt so . t— homophobic witch hunt? i don't think so . i actually— homophobic witch hunt? i don't

think so . i actually think the think so. i actually think the trouble is that , you know, he trouble is that, you know, he was unwise in what he did. i'm told that he wasn't that popular on set. he was actually quite a difficult person to work with, a prima donna . and we never have prima donna. and we never have prima donna. and we never have prima donnas on gb news, do we? at and also and also , um, i at and also and also, um, i don't know about you, but when i've seen him speak and give his views about what happened, it all looks like acting to me. but maybe i'm being very unfair. well, yes, he said in an interview that akua actually, if it was a straight presenter , it was a straight presenter, this wouldn't be a story. i don't think that's true. - don't think that's true. no i tom-t— don't think that's true. no i tom-t tttmt— don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true. no i don't think that's true either. i don't think that's true either. t ttmt— don't think that's true either. t mm at— don't think that's true either. i think at the— don't think that's true either. i think at the end— don't think that's true either. i think at the end of- don't think that's true either. i think at the end of the- don't think that's true either. i think at the end of the day, you've got to be professional and you've got to be dealing with people in a way that actually reflects not only your professionalism, but the professionalism, but the professionalism of the station that you're on. and that's something that i think itv has got a lot of questions to answer

. i mean, for example, the young runner who was on the this morning programme, we know that itv has said they're going to look after him. and i happen to know that the culture, media and sport committee will be asking the question, well , in what way the question, well, in what way are you going to look after him? are you going to give him money to keep silent ? what interesting to keep silent? what interesting questions . and it's not just questions. and it's not just philip schofield in the dock, sadly , it's itv too. michael, sadly, it's itv too. michael, have a brilliant— : v michael, have a brilliant weekend : c v michael, have a brilliant weekend . thank have a brilliant weekend. thank you tor— have a brilliant weekend. thank you tortomtmg— have a brilliant weekend. thank you forjoining us— have a brilliant weekend. thank you forjoining us on mark dolan tomtgtt— you forjoining us on mark dolan tomgtt. me— you forjoining us on mark dolan tomgtrt. the toy— you forjoining us on mark dolan tonight. the tory mp for ttotttett— tonight. the tory mp for lichfield ,_ tonight. the tory mp for lichfield , michael fabricant . lichfield, michael fabricant. tote— lichfield, michael fabricant. tote more— lichfield, michael fabricant. lots more to— lichfield, michael fabricant. lots more to come. i'll be teotmg— lots more to come. i'll be dealing with— lots more to come. i'll be dealing with phillip schofield in dealing with phillip schofield to my— dealing with phillip schofield to my tote— dealing with phillip schofield to my tote ot— dealing with phillip schofield in my take at ten. hopefully my test— in my take at ten. hopefully my test putte— in my take at ten. hopefully my last public comments about this rttteutoue— last public comments about this ridiculous story— last public comments about this ridiculous story .— last public comments about this ridiculous story. i— last public comments about this ridiculous story. i don't buy me— ridiculous story. i don't buy his crocodile— ridiculous story. i don't buy his crocodile tears. more on trot— his crocodile tears. more on that otter— his crocodile tears. more on that after ten. _ his crocodile tears. more on that after ten. you won't want to mee— that after ten. you won't want to rt.— that after ten. you won't want to miss it. lots— that after ten. you won't want to miss it. lots more to come. as to miss it. lots more to come. ae o— to miss it. lots more to come. ae e or— to miss it. lots more to come. ae e or pete— to miss it. lots more to come. as a gp asks new— to miss it. lots more to come. as a gp asks new parents if ttetr— as a gp asks new parents if ttetr potty— as a gp asks new parents if ttetr baby to— as a gp asks new parents if their baby is trans. is the putttety— their baby is trans. is the publicly funded nhs now in the

grip publicly funded nhs now in the grtp ot— publicly funded nhs now in the grtp ot trom— publicly funded nhs now in the grip of trans ideology plus , grip of trans ideology plus, i'll grip of trans ideology plus, t-tt te— grip of trans ideology plus, i'll be joined— grip of trans ideology plus, i'll be joined by a very brave guy— i'll be joined by a very brave guy vvto-e— i'll be joined by a very brave guy who's battling inoperable tovvet— guy who's battling inoperable bowel cancer,— guy who's battling inoperable bowel cancer, all because of those— bowel cancer, all because of those covto— bowel cancer, all because of those covid lockdowns, plus your cotte— those covid lockdowns, plus your cute m— those covid lockdowns, plus your cute to note— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan .— those covid lockdowns, plus your calls in dale dolan . it's all to calls in dale dolan. it's all to

radio. at 9:00. i'll be dealing with woke nationwide. but how about this one, folks? a gp has greeted newborn parents with an extraordinary question about their baby. is it trans? is? meanwhile, it emerges that the so—called and allegedly cash strapped nhs is now performing gender swap surgery every single day. so is the nhs now in the grip of trans ideology? let's speak to the political commentator and somebody that previously identified as female ollie london, whose book gender madness is creating a lot of excitement. it's available for

pre—order gender madness. and let me tell you, ollie london has won a london won an award, folks. yes, indeed . the riba folks. yes, indeed. the riba award for most influential personalities in the world of social media and actually your award relates very much to this story . what's going on with the story. what's going on with the gp asking parents of a newborn is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy .— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy . tteee— is it trans? i mean, it's just crazy . these are— c , i mean, it's just crazy . these are babies and this crazy. these are babies and this is crazy. these are babies and this to tutt— crazy. these are babies and this to tuet ome— crazy. these are babies and this to tuet voy— crazy. these are babies and this is just one way that gender tteotogy— is just one way that gender tteotogy te— is just one way that gender ideology is seeping into eoetety— ideology is seeping into eoetety. so— ideology is seeping into society. so first you have this et— society. so first you have this or out— society. so first you have this one gp and then— society. so first you have this one gp and then next it'll be ers— one gp and then next it'll be more gps following suit and stutt— more gps following suit and etutt mt— more gps following suit and stuff and it's— more gps following suit and stuff and it's just going to get worse. we're seeing school girls oetmg— worse. we're seeing school girls oetmg some— worse. we're seeing school girls asking some children to state ttetr— asking some children to state their pronouns,— asking some children to state their pronouns, to state whether they-re— their pronouns, to state whether ttey-re—trom. i their pronouns, to state whetheri they're—trans. and they're non—binary or trans. and toot,— they're non—binary or trans. and toot-ore— they're non—binary or trans. and look,-are questions- they're non—binary or trans. and look, are questions that look, these are questions that rent— look, these are questions that orem-t—ttte- look, these are questions that orem-t—ttte .- look, these are questions thati aren't—kids . when aren't suitable for kids. when youre— aren't suitable for kids. when youe-mutt,— aren't suitable for kids. when you're-adult, you- aren't suitable for kids. when you're adult, you can make you're an adult, you can make a demon— you're an adult, you can make a decision about— you're an adult, you can make a decision about how— you're an adult, you can make a decision about how your tteuttty— decision about how your identity, but— decision about how your identity, but kids can't comprehend- identity, but kids can't comprehend or they can't understand— comprehend or they can't understand just comprehend or they can't- understand -just think comprehend or they can't- undtotallyi-just think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous just think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous thatt think comprehend or they can't undtotally ludicrous that a:hink it's totally ludicrous that a doctor-e— it's totally ludicrous that a doctor's-askingl it's totally ludicrous that a - doctor's-asking about doctor's surgery is asking about tottee— doctor's surgery is asking about babies, whether— doctor's surgery is asking about babies, whether they're trans. amt— babies, whether they're trans. amt you— babies, whether they're trans. amt you speak— babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on— babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on this- babies, whether they're trans. and you speak on this story with considerable authority . give me considerable authority. give me a sort of potted history of your

journey. right? so i had many different identity struggles throughout my life that stemmed from different reasons bullying, body gender body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria. and body dysmorphia, gender dysphoria . and i did actually dysphoria. and i did actually tteuttty— dysphoria. and i did actually ttemttty oe— dysphoria. and i did actually identify as trans. _ dysphoria. and i did actually identify as trans. i— : and i did actually identify as trans. i had all of the— identify as trans. i had all of the toget— identify as trans. i had all of the facial feminisation eurerteeg— the facial feminisation surgeries, which was very permut— surgeries, which was very potmut. so— surgeries, which was very painful. so i— surgeries, which was very painful. so i did that. she became— painful. so i did that. she became o— painful. so i did that. she became a girl— painful. so i did that. she became a girl for a while. yes. amt— became a girl for a while. yes. amt t— became a girl for a while. yes. amt t woe— became a girl for a while. yes. and i was living— became a girl for a while. yes. and i was living publicly as a amt,— and i was living publicly as a woman. and, you— and i was living publicly as a woman. and, you know, i got to a potmt— woman. and, you know, i got to a potmt uttere— woman. and, you know, i got to a potmt vvterelvvoe— woman. and, you know, i got to a point whereiwas-this- point where i was like, this tom-t— point where i was like, this tent—me.- point where i was like, this tent—me. tl point where i was like, this. isn't—me. i need isn't the authentic me. i need to-etep— isn't the authentic me. i need to-etep-mt- to actually step back and find the-me— to actually step back and find tte-me-tmt- to actually step back and find the me find myself. and the real me and find myself. and it a the real me and find myself. and tt-o tot— the real me and find myself. and tt-o tot ot— the real me and find myself. and it-a lot of time— the real me and find myself. and it-a lot of time to- the real me and find myself. and it a lot of time to find it took a lot of time to find trot— it took a lot of time to find that person— it took a lot of time to find that person .was- it took a lot of time to find that person was trapped that person that was trapped vvttmm — that person that was trapped vvttmm -very- that person that was trapped within. very grateful within. but i'm very grateful amt— within. but i'm very grateful now. and obviously there are peopte— now. and obviously there are. peopte—geuerotty people out there that generally are people out there that generally ore-mt— people out there that generally ore-mt trey— people out there that generally are-and they felt- people out there that generally are and they felt like are trans and they felt like trot— are trans and they felt like trot-utote- are trans and they felt like that-whole life.- are trans and they felt like that whole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i whole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt hole life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt atle life. and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain and, you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain kind you are trans and they felt like that i felt a certain kind ofu know, i felt a certain kind of pressure because— know, i felt a certain kind of pressure because i use social metro— pressure because i use social metto ott— pressure because i use social media all-time,- pressure because i use social media all time, was spending media all the time, was spending like media all the time, was spending ttte ttve— media all the time, was spending like five hours— media all the time, was spending like five hourslday_ media all the time, was spending like five hours day on tiktok like five hours a day on tiktok mt— like five hours a day on tiktok out-you— like five hours a day on tiktok amt-you tert— like five hours a day on tiktok and .you tend to— like five hours a day on tiktok and you tend to see is these and all you tend to see is these getter— and all you tend to see is these gender-videos. - and all you tend to see is thesei gender-videos. .that gender ideology videos. and that was gender ideology videos. and that vvoem- otutt— gender ideology videos. and that was-an adult. but- gender ideology videos. and that was an adult. but my was me as an adult. but my concern-kids— was me as an adult. but my concern-kids ,_ was me as an adult. but my concern kids , when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionlineds , when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and when they're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and they'reiey're was me as an adult. but my conceionline and they're being going online and they're being exposed— going online and they're being exposed-tre- going online and they're being exposed the schools, exposed to this in the schools, in exposed to this in the schools, m the — exposed to this in the schools, in the classrooms,— exposed to this in the schools, in the classrooms, it's harmful teoouee— in the classrooms, it's harmful teoouee ttte— in the classrooms, it's harmful because kids minds are very to easy— because kids minds are very to eoey moutrt— because kids minds are very to eoey moutt. so— because kids minds are very to easy mould. so i— because kids minds are very to easy mould. so i think, you mom— easy mould. so i think, you mow, tt— easy mould. so i think, you know, if somebody identifies as trom— know, if somebody identifies as trans,-decision- know, if somebody identifies as trans,-decision to- know, if somebody identifies as trans, decision to make trans, that's a decision to make as ou ututt—

trans, that's a decision to make as an adult. but— trans, that's a decision to make as an adult. but kids cannot mote—rt- make that decision. is it groomtug— make that decision. is it groomtug tu— make that decision. is it grooming in some cases it is. i rt— grooming in some cases it is. i tt youre— grooming in some cases it is. i mean, if you're specifically torgettug— mean, if you're specifically targeting children with the purpose— targeting children with the purpoee ot— targeting children with the purpose of trying to confuse tuem— purpose of trying to confuse tuem tutt— purpose of trying to confuse them, that is— purpose of trying to confuse them, that is definitely groomtug. — them, that is definitely grooming. you know, grooming is gutte— grooming. you know, grooming is gutte-vvort— grooming. you know, grooming is quite word because it quite a loaded word because it com-mou— quite a loaded word because it tom-tuovv .— quite a loaded word because it tom-tuovv , tt— quite a loaded word because it can,-know , if it's- can, you know, if it's associated- can, you know, if it's associated the lgbt associated with the lgbt oommuutty— associated with the lgbt community, it— associated with the lgbt community, it can upset people. but community, it can upset people. out vvueu— community, it can upset people. out vvueu youre— community, it can upset people. but when you're actually torgettug— but when you're actually- targeting - specifically targeting children specifically , i targeting children specifically , t meou— targeting children specifically , i mean, even— targeting children specifically , i mean, even with those cases in , i mean, even with those cases tu tue— , i mean, even with those cases in the-recently— , i mean, even with those cases in the recently target in the us recently target a supermarket— in the us recently target a supermarket ,_ in the us recently target a supermarket , it in the us recently target a supermarket, it had this gender tteotogy— supermarket, it had this gender tteotogy putte— supermarket, it had this gender ideology pride collection for tottee— ideology pride collection for tottee out— ideology pride collection for babies and toddlers , and that is babies and toddlers, and that is vvuot— babies and toddlers, and that is vvuut you— babies and toddlers, and that is what you would _ babies and toddlers, and that is what you would consider grooming or indoctrinating_ what you would consider grooming or indoctrinating children because— or indoctrinating children because it's— or indoctrinating children because it's planting the seed in because it's planting the seed tu-mtute— because it's planting the seed in-minds that's- because it's planting the seed in minds that's making in their minds that's making tute— in their minds that's making tutu-me— in their minds that's making this-the place- in their minds that's making this-the place .- in their minds that's making this the place . on this all over the place. on- cartoons.-non—binary cartoons. they have non—binary ouorootere— cartoons. they have non—binary euorootere tu— cartoons. they have non—binary characters in some— cartoons. they have non—binary characters in some cartoons, you mow,— characters in some cartoons, you tuovvlttttot— characters in some cartoons, you tuovvlttttot .— characters in some cartoons, you know, tiktok , they're seeing know, on tiktok, they're seeing tute— know, on tiktok, they're seeing tutu-tute— know, on tiktok, they're seeing this. this concerted this. so it's this concerted pueu— this. so it's this concerted pueu-out- this. so it's this concerted push and confuse these push to try and confuse these ottttreu— push to try and confuse these children. and— push to try and confuse these children. and just children. and it's just not tutu— children. and it's just not tutu-true- children. and it's just not fair.-kids-needj children. and it's just not. fair.-kids-need to children. and it's just not- fair.-kids-need to be fair. these kids just need to be tett— fair. these kids just need to be tet-are— fair. these kids just need to be left-are these- fair. these kids just need to be left are these children left alone. are these children uot— left alone. are these children uot tetug— left alone. are these children not being educated into the fact tutt— not being educated into the fact tuot peopte— not being educated into the fact tuot peopte to— not being educated into the fact that people do identify by ttttereut— that people do identify by different genders ? ' ”iii: that people do identify by different genders ? ' ”c: if ti: different genders? are critics of different genders? are critics ot the— different genders? are critics ot the us— different genders? are critics of the us store target are critics of the nhs gender affirming care just dinosaurs?

well look, you know, kids do need to be educated on certain things. and, you need to be educated on certain things . and, you know, need to be educated on certain things. and, you know, kids are toru— things. and, you know, kids are tom vvttuout— things. and, you know, kids are born without judging— “q; and, you know, kids are born without judging anyone, rtgute— born without judging anyone, rtgute so— born without judging anyone, ugute so tuey— born without judging anyone, right? so they don't judge peopte.— right? so they don't judge peopte. tuey— right? so they don't judge people. they don't have these preconceptions— people. they don't have these preconceptions .— people. they don't have these preconceptions . so, you know, i preconceptions. so, you know, i get tue— preconceptions. so, you know, i get the argument— preconceptions. so, you know, i get the argument where people will get the argument where people wit-ou— get the argument where people will-oh,.need- get the argument where people will oh, need teach will say, oh, we need to teach true— will say, oh, we need to teach ttte otout— will say, oh, we need to teach kids about this— will say, oh, we need to teach kids about this because it's eguottty— kids about this because it's eguottty. put— kids about this because it's equality. but at— kids about this because it's equality. but at the same time, vvueu— equality. but at the same time, vvueu youe— equality. but at the same time, when you're teaching about when you're teaching kids about tetug— when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom_ when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom and— when you're teaching kids about beiiclassroom and constantly the classroom and constantly pueutug— the classroom and constantly pushing message, it's very pushing that message, it's very ooutuetug— confusing for kids, especially vvueu— confusing for kids, especially vvueu tuey-re — confusing for kids, especially when they're teenagers, when tuey— when they're teenagers, when tuey-peer— when they're teenagers, when they peer pressure, social they have peer pressure, social metro— they have peer pressure, social media influences,— they have peer pressure, social media influences, all of these ttttereut— media influences, all of these different things— media influences, all of these different things combined . different things combined. mot-e— different things combined. mot-otte— different things combined. that's the real— different things combined. that's the real harm. and kids are susceptible— that's the real harm. and kids are susceptible to. so i think, you— are susceptible to. so i think, you tuovv— are susceptible to. so i think, you know, pushing all this you know, pushing all of this stutt— you know, pushing all of this stuff constantly— you know, pushing all of this stuff constantly is concerning . stuff constantly is concerning. is stuff constantly is concerning. ts-vvur— stuff constantly is concerning. ts-vvur ou— stuff constantly is concerning. i is-war on gender? there is there a war on gender? there absolutely is. i mean,- “tifti; “tit“ gifctif?’ there absolutely is. i mean, women are tootug— absolutely is. i mean, women are tootug tue— absolutely is. i mean, women are facing the biggest— absolutely is. i mean, women are facing the biggest threat to tuetr— facing the biggest threat to tuetr rtgute— facing the biggest threat to their rights in,— facing the biggest threat to their rights in, you know , since their rights in, you know, since their rights in, you know, since the suffragettes_ their rights in, you know, since the suffragettes movement. and it the suffragettes movement. and tt reotty— the suffragettes movement. and tt reotty te— the suffragettes movement. and it really is concerning to see tutt— it really is concerning to see women that speak up for their rtgtte— women that speak up for their ugute. vou— women that speak up for their rights. you had— women that speak up for their rights. you had professor totuteeu— rights. you had professor kathleen stock, you know, epeottug— kathleen stock, you know, epeottug ot— kathleen stock, you know, speaking at the oxford union reoeutty— speaking at the oxford union recently-trans- speaking at the oxford union recently trans activist recently and trans activist etormet— recently and trans activist etormet tu— recently and trans activist stormed in. they glued themselves.— stormed in. they glued themselves. needed stormed in. they glued- themselves.-needed security. stormed in. they glued- ther needed - needed security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security ded security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security .ed security. stormed in. they glued ther needed security . and, curity. stormed in. they glued ther needed security . and, you y. she needed security. and, you mow,— she needed security. and, you know, uo— she needed security. and, you know, no woman— she needed security. and, you know, no woman should have to

put-tutt— know, no woman should have to put-tuot etmpty- know, no woman should have to put-that simply for- put up with that simply for epeuttug—l put up with that simply for- speaking_, speaking up speaking their mind, speaking up for speaking their mind, speaking up tor—so— speaking their mind, speaking up tor—soltututl for women's rights. so i think to— for women's rights. so i think tt-e—tuere-el it's really wrong that there's tute— it's really wrong that there's this concerted— it's really wrong that there's this concerted push to take away the this concerted push to take away tue-ot— this concerted push to take away tue-ot — this concerted push to take away the of women. look, the rights of women. and look, you— the rights of women. and look, you-uototy— the rights of women. and look, you-uototy uot- the rights of women. and look, you nobody had an issue you know, nobody had an issue vvttu— you know, nobody had an issue vvttu uyoue-e— you know, nobody had an issue with anyone's identity until reoeutty. — with anyone's identity until recently. .was _ with anyone's identity until recently. was only when recently. it was only when peopte— recently. it was only when people started _ recently. it was only when people started to try and push women into a corner to try and tore— women into a corner to try and tote tuetr— women into a corner to try and take their rights. _ women into a corner to try and take their rights. that's when it take their rights. that's when tt got— take their rights. that's when tt got reotty— take their rights. that's when it got really heated. women sport,— it got really heated. women- sport—tum sport, women, only spaces, that trut— sport, women, only spaces, that pp..g_,_ sport, women, only spaces, that pp..g_, too. — sport, women, only spaces, that pp..g_, too. so- sport, women, only spaces, that kind-, 100. so we- sport, women, only spaces, that kind ,100. so we just kind of thing, 100. so we just met— kind of thing, 100. so we just ueet to— kind of thing, 100. so we just need to respect— kind of thing, 100. so we just need to respect women you need to respect women and, you mow,— need to respect women and, you know, -can coexist - need to respect women and, you know,-can coexist .- need to respect women and, you know, can coexist . you know, everybody can coexist. you mow,— know, everybody can coexist. you moo-trom— know, everybody can coexist. you know,-trans people,- know, women, trans people, everytoty— know, women, trans people, everytoty oeu— know, women, trans people, everybody can but it's everybody can coexist. but it's about— everybody can coexist. but it's about totug— everybody can coexist. but it's about doing that— everybody can coexist. but it's about doing that in respectful about doing that in a respectful manner. that's— about doing that in a respectful manner. that's not— about doing that in a respectful manner. that's not going to take away— manner. that's not going to take ovvoy-rtgute— manner. that's not going to take ovvoy-rtguteltue- manner. that's not going to take away rights the spaces of away the rights or the spaces of wrot— away the rights or the spaces of women. what about- away the rights or the spaces of women. what about those, let's say, trans woman who'd like to say, a trans woman who'd like to participate if participate in women's sport if they're not allowed if they're not allowed to, if they're not allowed to, if they're precluded from doing so, that could be deeply humiliating. and that could send them into a depressive spiral. don't we need to take their feelings into account? you know, everybody should— feelings into account? you know, everybody should be— “gt; ii “7 you know, everybody should be allowed “gs ii “7 you know, everybody should be allowed to play— everybody should be allowed to ptoy—euouttl everybody should be allowed toi ptoy—euoutt te play sports. everybody should be moved— play sports. everybody should be ottovvet—uut- play sports. everybody should be allowed _ but the - allowed to compete. but the eotuttou— allowed to compete. but the solution would _ allowed to compete. but the solution would be have solution would be to have a separate— solution would be to have a separate category. so british cyettug— separate category. so british cycling announced that cycling recently announced that tuey-re— cycling recently announced that they're actually— cycling recently announced that they're actually going to ban

ttotogtoot— they're actually going to ban biological men— they're actually going to ban biological men competing in the category— biological men competing in the women's category , but they're women's category, but they're going— women's category, but they're gotug to— women's category, but they're gotug to more— women's category, but they're going to make the men's category opeu. — going to make the men's category opeu. ltuot-e— going to make the men's category open. that's solution. or open. so that's one solution. or uovtug— open. so that's one solution. or uuvtug o— open. so that's one solution. or even having a category that's for even having a category that's tor—peoptel for non—binary trans people to compete— for non—binary trans people to compete against— for non—binary trans people to compete against each other. tout— compete against each other. teu-t tutt— compete against each other. isn't that transphobic- compete against each other. isn't that transphobic ?- compete against each other. isn't that transphobic ? to have isn't that transphobic? to have a category, you're a trans category, you're effectively saying woman effectively saying a trans woman is woman? well that's the is not a woman? well that's the argument i think trans argument that i think trans athletes like to make because they they be, they don't want they want to be, you know, included as a woman. they want all of the same rights as a woman. but— they want all of the same rights as a woman. but have to look as a woman. but we have to look at as a woman. but we have to look ot—uot— as a woman. but we have to look ot—uot tutu - as a woman. but we have to look at_not fair. you- at biology. it's not fair. you mow,— at biology. it's not fair. you tuovv—eportel at biology. it's not fair. youj know,_sports is know, competitive sports is eometutug— know, competitive sports is something that— know, competitive sports is something that women train for mouy— something that women train for mouy, mouy— something that women train for mouy, muuy yeore— something that women train for many, many years to do. and same vvttu— many, many years to do. and same vvttu trom— many, many years to do. and same with trans athletes.— many, many years to do. and same with trans athletes. they have to-toug— with trans athletes. they have to-toug ttme- with trans athletes. they have to-long time. but. to train for a long time. but vvueu— to train for a long time. but when biologically male, when they're biologically male, tuey— when they're biologically male, they-significant- they do have a significant otvoutoge— they do have a significant advantage. about advantage. so it's about totmeee— advantage. so it's about fairness because don't advantage. so it's about- fairness because-don't have, fairness because you don't have, you—tutug— fairness because you don't have, you—tutug tu- fairness because you don't have, you—thing in sports. you know, dodi thing in sports. vou— you know, dodi thing in sports. you-ottovv— you know, dodi thing in sports. you allow performance you don't allow performance euuouotug— you don't allow performance euuouotug-vvuyi you don't allow performance. enhancing-why would enhancing drugs. so why would you ottovv— enhancing drugs. so why would you allow somebody that has a etgutttoout— you allow somebody that has a. significant—compete significant advantage to compete ogotuet— significant advantage to compete ogotuet-e— significant advantage to compete ogotuet-e tt-e— significant advantage to compete against-? it's just- significant advantage to compete against ? it's just in the against women? it's just in the tutereet— against women? it's just in the tutereet ot— against women? it's just in the interest of fairness. how about the cover of glamour magazine this month ? you've been tweeting this month? you've been tweeting about it. you've got many about it. you've got so many followers. tweet a lot at followers. you tweet a lot at ollie london. always worth worth

a this is an amazing a look. and this is an amazing story. it's a pregnant man on the front cover. is that progress? it's not progress teeouee— progress? it's not progress because firstly, _ g7 it's not progress because firstly, this is one of tue— because firstly, this is one of tue ut-e— because firstly, this is one of the uk's biggest— because firstly, this is one of the uk's biggest women's mogoztue— the uk's biggest women's magazine means. and, you know, it's magazine means. and, you know, to otteuetve — magazine means. and, you know, to otteuetve to— magazine means. and, you know, it's offensive to women because, you—womeui it's offensive to women because,| you—womeu get you know, how many women get preguuut— you know, how many women get preguuut-yeore— you know, how many women get pregnant year? there's pregnant every year? there's ouut— pregnant every year? there's oromvvomeut—l pregnant every year? there's. around—women get around 200 million women get preguout— around 200 million women get pregnant around— around 200 million women get pregnant around the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, it around the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you ound the world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, he world. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, not /orld. so around 200 million women get pregto, you know, not include» two to, you know, not include women in this. _ two to, you know, not include women in this. why not feature a preguout— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman?— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman? i— women in this. why not feature a pregnant woman? i know this peo— pregnant woman? i know this peo te— pregnant woman? i know this person islwoman,- pregnant woman? i know this person is woman, they're person is a woman, but they're trytug— person is a woman, but they're trytug-to— person is a woman, but they're trytug-to te- person is a woman, but they're trytug-to be u- person is a woman, but they're trying to be a man. trying to claim to be a man. tuey-ve— trying to claim to be a man. tuey-ve out— trying to claim to be a man. they've cut their— trying to claim to be a man. they've cut their breasts off. why— they've cut their breasts off. wuy—ootuotl they've cut their breasts off. - why _ actual woman why not feature an actual woman on why not feature an actual woman ou—tutut- on the magazine? i think it's teepty— on the magazine? i think it's teepty-aut- deeply offensive. and also, i tutut— deeply offensive. and also, i tututleete— deeply offensive. and also, i think sets dangerous think it sets a dangerous preeeteut— think it sets a dangerous precedent because person precedent because this person ouu-t— precedent because this person can't—sol can't even breastfeed now. so vvuot— can't even breastfeed now. so vvuut te— can't even breastfeed now. so vvuut te tutt— can't even breastfeed now. so what is that-us?- can't even breastfeed now. so what is that us? you what is that telling us? you tuovv— what is that telling us? you know, tuot-e— what is that telling us? you know, that's actually going to cause problems for the kid and stutt— cause problems for the kid and etutt-tutut— cause problems for the kid and stuff. -think it's- stuff. so i just think it's offensive.— stuff. so i just think it's- offensive. - distasteful offensive. it's very distasteful out— offensive. it's very distasteful and.disrespect_ offensive. it's very distasteful and disrespect women. �*ftt�*ti; offensive. it's very distasteful and disrespect women. �*svtti; and it disrespect women. we want to-tu— and it disrespect women. we want to-tulvvortu— and it disrespect women. we want to in world where if you to live in a world where if you choose loretta rather than choose to be loretta rather than steve, then we're going to love you that. and obviously you you for that. and obviously you know, i've got no problem calling loretta saying calling steve loretta and saying she me, that's she that's for me, that's courtesy. but have we courtesy. yeah, but have we crossed the rubicon now ? has crossed the rubicon now? has trans ideology taken root in western society? is there any is there any rowing back from this

? ithink there any rowing back from this ? i think there is. i think we're starting— 7’ i think there is. i think we're starting to see a pushback now because people have got to a potut— now because people have got to a potut vvuere— now because people have got to a point where women— now because people have got to a point where women are getting very— point where women are getting very-utm— point where women are getting very with biological men, very upset with biological men, women winning— very upset with biological men, women winning prizes women winning their prizes in sporte— women winning their prizes in sports .— women winning their prizes in eporte . vte-re— women winning their prizes in sports . we're also seeing, you sports. we're also seeing, you mow,— sports. we're also seeing, you know, women's spaces being tuvoteot— know, women's spaces being- mvoetevvomeu-t— invaded. when you have women's rtgute— invaded. when you have women's rights activists— invaded. when you have women's rights activists speaking like troteeeor— rights activists speaking like professor kathleen stock or posy porter— professor kathleen stock or posy porter tetty. — professor kathleen stock or posy parker kelly. jane,— professor kathleen stock or posy parker kelly. jane, you know, tuey-re— parker kelly. jane, you know, tuey-re getttug— parker kelly. jane, you know, they're getting attacked or tuey-re—ot- they're getting attacked or. tuey-re—ot ougry. they're getting kind of angry. trom— they're getting kind of angry. tram—up.- they're getting kind of angry. tram—up. andl they're getting kind of angry.| trans—up. and of trans activists turn up. and of tute— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is a— trans activists turn up. and of course, this is a very small mtuortty— course, this is a very small mtuortty ot— course, this is a very small minority of this— course, this is a very small minority of this particular group. — minority of this particular group. the group. you know, these are the oettvtete— group. you know, these are the oottvtete .— group. you know, these are the activists , just— group. you know, these are the activists , just-any- group. you know, these are the activists , just any group activists, just like any group you— activists, just like any group you-mow,- activists, just like any group you-know, just. activists, just like any group you know, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople know, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople andznow, just stop activists, just like any group youpeople and stuff.just stop activists, just like any group youpeople and stuff. they'rep oil people and stuff. they're tue— oil people and stuff. they're the-elements,- oil people and stuff. they're the elements, but the extreme elements, but tuey-re— the extreme elements, but they're carrying the they're the ones carrying the touuere— they're the ones carrying the banners-lgbt- they're the ones carrying the banners lgbt movement. banners for the lgbt movement. aut— banners for the lgbt movement. out-rt— banners for the lgbt movement. out-rt tt-e— banners for the lgbt movement. and-it it's really- and i think it it's really uormtut— and i think it it's really harmful to— and i think it it's really harmful to the lgbt people , you harmful to the lgbt people, you mow,— harmful to the lgbt people, you mom-peopte— harmful to the lgbt people, you know, - people that - harmful to the lgbt people, you know, people that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight people that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for)eople that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their; that have had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rightshave had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rights fore had harmful to the lgbt people, you knfight for their rights for so ad to fight for their rights for so toug—tt-e- to fight for their rights for sol long._it's harmful long. and indeed, it's harmful to tempt— long. and indeed, it's harmful to actual trans— long. and indeed, it's harmful to actual trans people have to actual trans people that have uot— to actual trans people that have uotletruggte— to actual trans people that have had.struggle_life| had to struggle their whole life vvttu — had to struggle their whole life with - dysphoria. - had to struggle their whole life with dysphoria. so with gender dysphoria. so i tutut— with gender dysphoria. so i think-activists- with gender dysphoria. so i think activists are the think these activists are the rept— think these activists are the rem-aut— think these activists are the real-and this- think these activists are the real-and this is- think these activists are the real-and this is the| think these activists are the real think these activists are the- reallthat the so—called gender point that the so—called gender ideology, which essentially says a is a woman and vice versa a man is a woman and vice versa , rather than respecting the way by which someone identifies important difference . so it's important difference. so it's obviously very full on it

doesn't really help the trans community. in fact, you know, it's community. in fact, you know, to very— community. in fact, you know, it's very damaging— community. in fact, you know, it's very damaging to- i “ gt in fact, you know, it's very damaging to the trans oommuutty— it's very damaging to the transi community—know, community because, you know, uuttt— community because, you know, uuttt-toet— community because, you know, until-last few— community because, you know, until last few years, they until the last few years, they tuet— until the last few years, they were just happily living their ttvee— were just happily living their. ttvee—uototy were just happily living their lives discussing nobody were just happily living their lives discussing them )body were just happily living their lives discussing them because was even discussing them because of was even discussing them because ot tuetr— was even discussing them because of their identity. _ was even discussing them because of their identity. and it's reotty— of their identity. and it's reotty eut— of their identity. and it's reotty out .— of their identity. and it's really sad . you know, have really sad. you know, i have trom— really sad. you know, i have troupe—- trans friends. i'm a spokesperson for caitlyn - jenner's_fairness jenner's organisation, fairness trot.— jenner's organisation, fairness ttret. t— jenner's organisation, fairness ttret. t uuve— jenner's organisation, fairness first. i have many trans trteute— first. i have many trans friends, they're saying it's friends, and they're saying it's reutty—rtgutl friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of these right friends, and they're saying it's reallbecause of these transit now because of these trans oottvtete— now because of these trans activists and _ now because of these trans activists and all- now because of these trans activists and all these uou—ttuory- activists and all these non—binary activists that have reotty— non—binary activists that have reotty tuetr— non—binary activists that have really their—so,- really their movement. so, you mou— really their movement. so, you tuovv .— really their movement. so, you tuovv , we— really their movement. so, you know , we need— really their movement. so, you know , we need fairness. we need know, we need fairness. we need to respect— know, we need fairness. we need to respect peopte,— know, we need fairness. we need to respect people, of course, tut— to respect people, of course, tut we— to respect people, of course, tut vve oteo— to respect people, of course, but we also have— to respect people, of course, but we also have to bring all peopte— but we also have to bring all peopte tuto— but we also have to bring all people into conversation . people into the conversation. vvomeu— people into the conversation. vvomeu-epeot.- people into the conversation. women speak. trans women need to speak. trans peopte— women need to speak. trans peopte-spear- women need to speak. trans peopte-spear .- women need to speak. trans people speak . lgbt people need to speak. lgbt peopte,— people need to speak. lgbt people,-shouldl people need to speak. lgbt. people,-should have people, everybody should have a ttotogue— people, everybody should have a dialogue. instead— people, everybody should have a dialogue. instead of having tueee— dialogue. instead of having tueee-,— dialogue. instead of having tueee-, you- dialogue. instead of having- these-, you -these these people, you know, these trom— these people, you know, these trans-screaming- these people, you know, these trans screaming at trans activists screaming at| trans activists screaming at- women,_away their women, trying to take away their rtgtte— rights. let's have a conversation let's rights. let's have a conversation - let's and conversation and let's try and eotve— conversation and let's try and eotve-eo— conversation and let's try and solve so everybody is solve this so everybody is happy- _ solve this so everybody is happy- -w°n- solve this so everybody is happy. -won thisl solve this so everybody is- happy. -won this award , happy. you've won this award, wehba what for? so you actually won wehba what for? so you actually tute— wehba what for? so you actually tute ot— wehba what for? so you actually won this at the— wehba what for? so you actually won this at the cannes- �*ftt�*tifztvit flirt“? tif7 so you actually won this at the cannes film teettvot— won this at the cannes film festival and— won this at the cannes film festival and recently won it otougette— festival and recently won it alongside elon— festival and recently won it alongside elon musk's mother ? alongside elon musk's mother? tutt— alongside elon musk's mother? tutv aut— alongside elon musk's mother? tutv aut tt— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was a— alongside elon musk's mother? may and it was a great honour teeuuee— may and it was a great honour teoouee tute— may and it was a great honour because this was— may and it was a great honour because this was actually for my

eoetut— because this was actually for my eootot metro— because this was actually for my social media advocacy . and i've social media advocacy. and i've teeu— social media advocacy. and i've teeu vvorttug— social media advocacy. and i've been working very— social media advocacy. and i've been working very hard, you know , tettootet— been working very hard, you know , tetteutet my— been working very hard, you know , dedicated my entire life reotty— , dedicated my entire life .ggpy, tor— , dedicated my entire life really, for helping people , for really, for helping people, for uetptug— really, for helping people, for helping women,— really, for helping people, for helping women, for helping kids. so helping women, for helping kids. so tt— helping women, for helping kids. so tt vvue— helping women, for helping kids. so it was really— helping women, for helping kids. so it was really nice to be reeoguteet— so it was really nice to be recognised for— so it was really nice to be recognised for this and to win an recognised for this and to win ou overt— recognised for this and to win an award with— recognised for this and to win an award with such distinguished peopte— an award with such distinguished peopte ute— an award with such distinguished peopte ttte meye— an award with such distinguished people like maye musk . so i feel people like maye musk. so i feel very— people like maye musk. so i feel very tteeeet— people like maye musk. so i feel very blessed and— people like maye musk. so i feel very blessed and actually tetteutet— very blessed and actually dedicated—in. very blessed and actually. dedicated—in my dedicated this award in my epeeou— dedicated this award in my epeeou to— dedicated this award in my speech to all— dedicated this award in my speech to all women around the vote. — speech to all women around the vote. oute— speech to all women around the world. ollie, thank— speech to all women around the world. ollie, thank you- speech to all women around the world. occti; world. ollie, thank you for joining us in the studio. world. ollie, thank you for joining us in the studio . we'll joining us in the studio. we'll catch up really soon. thank you. a pleasure. ollie london a real pleasure. ollie london fascinate doing stuff. up, fascinate doing stuff. next up, i'll be speaking to a 34 year old man who has incurable bowel cancen old man who has incurable bowel cancer, because the nhs cancer, all because the nhs turned into a covid only service dunng turned into a covid only service during the pandemic. he tells his story next. at 9:00, i'll be deaung his story next. at 9:00, i'll be dealing with the woke nationwide and at ten phillip schofield a busy couple of hours to

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trovvu— columnist allison pearson has drawn attention— columnist allison pearson has drawn attention to the shocking story— drawn attention to the shocking etory ot— drawn attention to the shocking etory ot rouu— drawn attention to the shocking story of john chapple , somebody story of john chapple, somebody vvuoee— story of john chapple, somebody whose treatment— story of john chapple, somebody whose treatment for what was tettevet— whose treatment for what was tettevet to — whose treatment for what was believed to be— whose treatment for what was believed to be a— whose treatment for what was believed to be a fairly straightforward lump in his tovvet— straightforward lump in his tovvet vvue— straightforward lump in his bowel was delayed and ignored turtug— bowel was delayed and ignored turtug coup.— bowel was delayed and ignored turtug covtu. — bowel was delayed and ignored during covid. after two years of wrong diagnosis , he's cancelled wrong diagnosis, he's cancelled appointments and missed opportunities to deal with the disease before it became life threatening . john disease before it became life threatening .john is disease before it became life threatening . john is one of the threatening. john is one of the many thousands of people who are victims of the government's pandemic response and the nhs seeming decision soon to become a covid only service. john has been told the cancer is in curable but is now seeking access to life saving cancer treatment in germany , folk can treatment in germany, folk can help via a special website which will quote in a moment. but john, welcome to the show. joe hi mark. thanks for having me on so to— hi mark. thanks for having me on so to u— hi mark. thanks for having me on so to o reotty— hi mark. thanks for having me on so it's a really, really— so it's a really, really uumtttug— so it's a really, really humbling to- so it's a really, really humbling to have you on the programme. — humbling to have you on the programme. it's— humbling to have you on the programme. will humbling to have you on the programme. it's very important that your story is told in your article . so the one that you

article. so the one that you featured in written by allison pearson, you said that although you were fobbed off by doctors, you were fobbed off by doctors, you trusted the nhs . that was you trusted the nhs. that was your big mistake. tell me more . your big mistake. tell me more. yeah, i think that's right. i tutut— yeah, i think that's right. i tutut t— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think in— yeah, i think that's right. i think i think in this country we're certainly— think i think in this country we're certainly brought up to we toot— we're certainly brought up to we toot up— we're certainly brought up to we toot up to— we're certainly brought up to we toot up to tue— we're certainly brought up to we look up to the nhs and i think trougut— look up to the nhs and i think we're brought up— look up to the nhs and i think we're brought up to instinctively trust doctors and tutt— instinctively trust doctors and mm tuey— instinctively trust doctors and that they have— instinctively trust doctors and that they have our best tutereete— that they have our best interests at— that they have our best interests at heart and they are, um , you— interests at heart and they are, um , you mow,— interests at heart and they are, um , you know, they'll take care um, you know, they'll take care of um, you know, they'll take care ot ue— um, you know, they'll take care ot us out— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't let— um, you know, they'll take care of us and won't let things , you of us and won't let things, you mow,— of us and won't let things, you know, get— of us and won't let things, you tuovv, get too— of us and won't let things, you know, get too out— of us and won't let things, you know, get too out of control. eut— know, get too out of control. but obviously— know, get too out of control. but obviously that wasn't, that vvoeut— but obviously that wasn't, that vvoeut tue— but obviously that wasn't, that wasn't the case— but obviously that wasn't, that wasn't the case with me. so yeou— wasn't the case with me. so yeah, unfortunately i think i o tut— yeah, unfortunately i think i was a bit bit— yeah, unfortunately i think i was a bit bit naive and i've reotteet— was a bit bit naive and i've realised the— was a bit bit naive and i've realised the importance of otvoeuttug— realised the importance of advocating for— realised the importance of advocating for yourself and mottug— advocating for yourself and mottug o— advocating for yourself and making a fuss— advocating for yourself and making a fuss and yeah , not, not making a fuss and yeah, not, not tetug— making a fuss and yeah, not, not tetug potte— making a fuss and yeah, not, not being polite and— making a fuss and yeah, not, not being polite and yeah, just, met— being polite and yeah, just, tuet reotty— being polite and yeah, just, just really advocating for youreett— just really advocating for yourself basically . “c25 ' “t: yourself basically. yes. and youve— yourself basically. yes. and you've said that it's anger that now drives you to tell your

story and of course to seek treatment. yeah, story and of course to seek treatment . yeah, i mean that's, treatment. yeah, i mean that's, tuut-e— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it.— treatment. yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it. i— yeah, i mean that's, that's basically it. i mean, i tutut— that's basically it. i mean, i tutut tt— that's basically it. i mean, i think it would— that's basically it. i mean, i think it would be very easy when somebody— think it would be very easy when somebody ute— think it would be very easy when somebody has a— think it would be very easy when somebody has a diagnosis like tute— somebody has a diagnosis like me .— somebody has a diagnosis like me . t— somebody has a diagnosis like tute- t mem— somebody has a diagnosis like this. i mean, obviously, it's tevuetottug— this. i mean, obviously, it's devastating thing and traumatic for devastating thing and traumatic tor me— devastating thing and traumatic tor me to— devastating thing and traumatic for me to deal— devastating thing and traumatic for me to deal with and also for all for me to deal with and also for at my— for me to deal with and also for ott my tomtty— for me to deal with and also for all my family, friends, everyone outt— all my family, friends, everyone ouut so— all my family, friends, everyone around me. so i— all my family, friends, everyone around me. so i think it would be easy— around me. so i think it would be easy to,— around me. so i think it would be eoey to, um— around me. so i think it would be easy to, um, you know , curl be easy to, um, you know, curl up tu— be easy to, um, you know, curl up tu o— be easy to, um, you know, curl up tu o omer— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a corner and— be easy to, um, you know, curl up in a corner and give up. just go away— up in a corner and give up. just go away out,— up in a corner and give up. just go away out, um— up in a corner and give up. just go away out, um .— up in a corner and give up. just go away and, um , uh, but, but go away and, um, uh, but, but i tutut— go away and, um, uh, but, but i tutut t-ve— go away and, um, uh, but, but i tutut be got— go away and, um, uh, but, but i think i've got a— go away and, um, uh, but, but i think i've got a real determination to to, carry on ttguttug— determination to to, carry on ttguttug tute— determination to to, carry on fighting this thing as much as i can:— fighting this thing as much as i out— fighting this thing as much as i can, and certainly— fighting this thing as much as i can, and certainly anger at the ettuottou— can, and certainly anger at the situation and— can, and certainly anger at the situation and how— can, and certainly anger at the situation and how things were teutt— situation and how things were teutt vvttu— situation and how things were dealt with is— situation and how things were dealt with is definitely a trtvtug— dealt with is definitely a driving force _ dealt with is definitely a driving force and definitely the mouy— driving force and definitely the muuy mteeet— driving force and definitely the many missed opportunities are truty— many missed opportunities are truly appalling— many missed opportunities are truly appalling and not a good retteottou— truly appalling and not a good reflection on— truly appalling and not a good reflection on the— truly appalling and not a good reflection on the service as you uot— reflection on the service as you uot ou— reflection on the service as you had an operation. _ reflection on the service as you had an operation. but after the cancer returned , it seems you cancer returned, it seems you felt that even then the nhs were quite unsimple btec like you were a problem that needed to go away . yeah i mean, i'm not that

away. yeah i mean, i'm not that i don't want to be too critical of my i think i have been cared for quite well since they actually discovered the cancer . actually discovered the cancer. um, i feel like they've given up on um, i feel like they've given up ou me peruope— um, i feel like they've given up ou me peruupe o— um, i feel like they've given up on me perhaps a little bit now because— on me perhaps a little bit now because as you— on me perhaps a little bit now because as you say, the cancer grew— because as you say, the cancer grevv toot— because as you say, the cancer grevv toot out— because as you say, the cancer grew back and it's— because as you say, the cancer grew back and it's quite oggreeetve. — grew back and it's quite aggressive. and i was basically tott— aggressive. and i was basically tott tt-e— aggressive. and i was basically tott tt-e uo— aggressive. and i was basically told it's now unlikely i'll ever be told it's now unlikely i'll ever toe-eut— told it's now unlikely i'll ever toe-out t— told it's now unlikely i'll ever be-but i think- told it's now unlikely i'll ever be-but i think my- told it's now unlikely i'll ever be but i think my main be cured. but i think my main a mom— be cured. but i think my main a toteovvuy— be cured. but i think my main a main takeaway from this is that the main takeaway from this is that tue tus— main takeaway from this is that tue uus te— main takeaway from this is that the nhs is quite— main takeaway from this is that the nhs is quite good at being reoottve— the nhs is quite good at being reoottve .— the nhs is quite good at being reactive . and— the nhs is quite good at being reactive . and when you're reactive. and when you're ttoguoeet— reactive. and when you're diagnosed with something tt— diagnosed with something serious, it does spring into uottou— serious, it does spring into action relatively fast in my epeueue — action relatively fast in my experience. but— action relatively fast in my experience. but it didn't need to get— experience. but it didn't need to get to— experience. but it didn't need to get to tute— experience. but it didn't need to get to this point . it's not to get to this point. it's not good— to get to this point. it's not good ot— to get to this point. it's not good at term— to get to this point. it's not good at being proactive and it's not good at being proactive and it's uot gooe— good at being proactive and it's uot goot ot— good at being proactive and it's not good at pretty— good at being proactive and it's not good at pretty preventing tteeoeee— not good at pretty preventing tteeoeee or— not good at pretty preventing diseases or getting things eortet— diseases or getting things sorted before— diseases or getting things sorted before they actually get to eeuoue— sorted before they actually get to serious has— sorted before they actually get to serious has been my epeee— to serious has been my experience . - to serious has been my experience . jtit �*"ti;ti;c to serious has been my- experience . do you feel, john, experience. do you feel, john, that something happened to the nhs within its culture during the pandemic that as an organisation group think kicked in and it became

disproportionately obsessed with . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult— . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult not- . one virus? i would say. so i think it's difficult not to- tijj“ti; . 1s7 : so i think it's difficult not to draw tutt— think it's difficult not to draw that conclusion— think it's difficult not to draw that conclusion now . um, i think that conclusion now. um, i think otvtouety— that conclusion now. um, i think otvtouety tt— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was ,_ that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was , it— that conclusion now. um, i think obviously it was , it wasn't an obviously it was, it wasn't an easy— obviously it was, it wasn't an easy ttme— obviously it was, it wasn't an easy time. nobody knew how tue— easy time. nobody knew how serious the virus— easy time. nobody knew how serious the virus was going to be serious the virus was going to te vvueu— serious the virus was going to te vvueu tt— serious the virus was going to be when it first— serious the virus was going to be when it first came out. but i tutut— be when it first came out. but i tutut oe— be when it first came out. but i tutut oe oou— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as it— be when it first came out. but i think as soon as it became clear tutt— think as soon as it became clear tuot tt— think as soon as it became clear tuot tt motuty— think as soon as it became clear that it mainly killed and, you mow,— that it mainly killed and, you know, tue— that it mainly killed and, you know, the elderly people who were immunosuppressed there was a were immunosuppressed there was u very— were immunosuppressed there was u very smatt— were immunosuppressed there was a very small percentage of peopte.— a very small percentage of peopte. tt— a very small percentage of peopte. tt vvue— a very small percentage of people. it was a- a very small percentage of people. it was a serious illness for people. it was a serious illness tor tt— people. it was a serious illness for it presented— people. it was a serious illness for it presented no— people. it was a serious illness for it presented no risk to , to for it presented no risk to, to most— for it presented no risk to, to moet peopte. — for it presented no risk to, to most people. um— for it presented no risk to, to most people. um yeah, i think it t— most people. um yeah, i think it t tutut— most people. um yeah, i think it t tutut t— most people. um yeah, i think it was i think i think— most people. um yeah, i think it was i think i think a lot of peopte— was i think i think a lot of people probably think the same. i people probably think the same. t tutut— people probably think the same. t tutut tt— people probably think the same. ttutut tt vvue— people probably think the same. i think it was a— people probably think the same. i think it was a huge overreaction- i think it was a huge overreaction and, and um, it seemed— overreaction and, and um, it seemed totrty— overreaction and, and um, it seemed fairly obvious to me at the seemed fairly obvious to me at tue ttme— seemed fairly obvious to me at tue ttme .— seemed fairly obvious to me at tue ttme . t— seemed fairly obvious to me at the time . i remember saying in the time. i remember saying in tumou— the time. i remember saying in meet 2on— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that i— the time. i remember saying in march 2020 that i think it's going— march 2020 that i think it's gotug to— march 2020 that i think it's gotug to ot— march 2020 that i think it's going to at these lockdowns are going— going to at these lockdowns are gotug to— going to at these lockdowns are gotug to tit— going to at these lockdowns are going to kill more— going to at these lockdowns are going to kill more people than tuey— going to kill more people than tuey euvet — going to kill more people than they saved. and— going to kill more people than they saved. and i— going to kill more people than they saved. and i don't take any pteoeure— they saved. and i don't take any pteoeure tu— they saved. and i don't take any pleasure in being— they saved. and i don't take any pleasure in being proven right on pleasure in being proven right ou tutt— pleasure in being proven right ou tuot. aut— pleasure in being proven right

on that. and obviously didn't on that. and i obviously didn't expect— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to te— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to be be— on that. and i obviously didn't expect to be be one of the peopte— expect to be be one of the peopte tu— expect to be be one of the people in this— expect to be be one of the people in this position. but um, yeou— people in this position. but um, yeou t— people in this position. but um, yeou t tutut— people in this position. but um, yeou, t tutut .— people in this position. but um, yeah, i think , uh,— people in this position. but um, yeah, i think , uh, yeah, yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely— yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely .— yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely. i'd agree yeah, i think, uh, yeah, absolutely . i'd agree with you absolutely. i'd agree with you on absolutely. i'd agree with you ou tutt— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front .— absolutely. i'd agree with you on that front . um, i want to on that front. um, i want to tott— on that front. um, i want to tott otout— on that front. um, i want to talk about the _ on that front. um, i want to talk about the treatment that youre— talk about the treatment that you-e eeettug— talk about the treatment that you're seeking in germany, and you— you're seeking in germany, and you ouu— you're seeking in germany, and you tett— you're seeking in germany, and you can tell our— you're seeking in germany, and you can tell our viewers how tuey— you can tell our viewers how tuey oou— you can tell our viewers how tuey eugoge— you can tell our viewers how they can engage with that portteutor— they can engage with that particular particular care eomputgu— particular particular care eompotgu ot— particular particular care campaign of yours. rifti; particular particular care - campaign of yours. how are you feeling at the moment? john on a day to day basis, your physical and your mental health, how are you doing? um , it's basically you doing? um, it's basically vvuere— you doing? um, it's basically vvuere vvuere— you doing? um, it's basically where where am— t:tit “tg7’ um, it's basically where where am currently is that the where where am currently is that tue ouemo— where where am currently is that the chemo that— where where am currently is that the chemo that i'm— where where am currently is that the chemo that i'm on is keeping everytutug— the chemo that i'm on is keeping everytutug . — the chemo that i'm on is keeping everytutug . tuey— the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything . "cat tirit the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything. "cat tirit c the chemo that i'm on is keeping everything . "cat ti£1c everything. they call it stable disease at the moment, so it's not growing any more. it's not shrinking any more. it's kind of on a certain level. but um, i have chemo on a, on a fortnightly cycle. um, probably . three out of every two weeks. i feel okay for maybe 2 or 3 days. so it's, it's, you know , days. so it's, it's, you know, it's keeping me alive. it's

prolonging my life. this treatment i'm currently having . treatment i'm currently having. but it's, it's not a treatment which is going to cure me. and it's also not a life that i, i try and take my moments where i where i can and try and make the most of when i'm feeling okay. and you know, see friends and go out and all that sort of stuff. but yeah , the vast majority of but yeah, the vast majority of my time, i feel sick and in pain and um, you know, all the, all the horrible side effects that go with , you know, what is go with, you know, what is essentially a toxic, you know, a poison that's going into your bloodstream. so it is , you know, bloodstream. so it is, you know, it's working sort of. but yeah, it's working sort of. but yeah, it definitely comes at the expense of , um, yeah, just it definitely comes at the expense of, um, yeah, just being comfortable and not in pain and yeah, just generally feeling okay. and what about your spirit, your mental health? how are you feeling that that- i c i 7 how are you feeling that that must ttuotuote— are you feeling that that must fluctuate to. _ are you feeling that that must fluctuate to. t“/ti;v£t“ gigt fluctuate to. yeah, absolutely. it fluctuates . yes. um, i think

it fluctuates. yes. um, i think every knock back we get every bit of disappointment, every , bit of disappointment, every, um, news from a doctor that isn't isn't necessarily positive. i think , uh, it takes positive. i think, uh, it takes me a little while to recover from that. probably you know, a few days i'll sort of go into a bit of a depression afterwards and then bounce back. so i think it's , you know, it's very up and it's, you know, it's very up and down, as you would expect. i think. but right now i'm, i'm feeling more positive than i was obviously mentioned , uh, that obviously mentioned, uh, that i've been doing this fundraising thing. um, allison pearson obviously wrote that she wrote a lovely article and i went on her podcast to and that helped raise a lot of awareness and a lot of money to, to help fundraise these treatments. so i'm feeling , i'm feeling relatively, relatively positive at the moment. well, there you are. mere-e— moment. well, there you are. tuere-e your— well, there you are. there's your handsome, your uouteome— there's your handsome, your handsome face— there's your handsome, your handsome face on the go fund me page— handsome face on the go fund me page -— handsome face on the go fund me page . tett— handsome face on the go fund me page . tett my— handsome face on the go fund me page . tell my viewers and page. tell my viewers and tteteuere— page. tell my viewers and listeners how— page. tell my viewers and listeners how they can how they can contribute,— listeners how they can how they can contribute, should they so

vvteu— can contribute, should they so vvteu .— can contribute, should they so vvteu . um— can contribute, should they so vvteu . um um — can contribute, should they so wish . um um so— can contribute, should they so wish . um um so it's a go fund me wish. um um so it's a go fund me trut— wish. um um so it's a go fund me ttut vvutou— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which i— wish. um um so it's a go fund me link which which i believe you euoutt— link which which i believe you euoutt te— link which which i believe you should be able— link which which i believe you should be able to— link which which i believe you should be able to share what i'm rotetug— should be able to share what i'm rotetug mouey— should be able to share what i'm raising money for. _ should be able to share what i'm raising money for. c raising money for. it's experimental- raising money for. it's experimental treatment at um which i think will eventually become a standard cancer treatment. it's basically vaccine based . uh, they, they vaccine based. uh, they, they take, they take your blood, they segment it, they look for all of your mutation patterns and markers and that kind of stuff . markers and that kind of stuff. and then they make a specialised vaccine in this personalised treatment based on your cancer specifically. um, i found out about it through someone else. i met in chemotherapy. who's got the same diagnosis as me. stage four bowel cancer that spread to the liver . she's only 30. four bowel cancer that spread to the liver. she's only 30. i'm 34. she's a, i think she's 37. so another person's far too, far too young and was really been let down by the system . um, but let down by the system. um, but she's found out about this stuff. she's currently having it

, um stuff. she's currently having it y um r stuff. she's currently having it , um , she's waiting to see , um, she's waiting to see whether it's working in her body. but before they do it , body. but before they do it, they have it in vitro in, in a petri dish. they put her cancer in there. they put this vaccine in there. they put this vaccine in there. they put this vaccine in there and it did start attacking the cancer. it worked as as it was supposed to. so it's early and it's experimental and obviously not available on the nhs and not even available in this country. but yeah, i feel like at this point i don't really have much at this point. my really have much at this point. my choices are accept ing tutettutte— my choices are accept ing indefinite chemo, chemo therapy uuttt— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy uuttt tt— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy uuttt tt stopo— indefinite chemo, chemo therapy until it stops working or to try eometutug— until it stops working or to try something drastic and yeah, peopte— something drastic and yeah, peopte uove— something drastic and yeah, people have given very geuerouety— people have given very generously and i've been overwhelmed— generously and i've been overwhelmed by the support for the overwhelmed by the support for tue eeoout— overwhelmed by the support for the second option. so, so, so tor— the second option. so, so, so tor peopte— the second option. so, so, so for people that are not brilliant on the internet, what do they do? they go to go fund me out— do they do? they go to go fund me out tueu— do they do? they go to go fund me and then what— do they do? they go to go fund me and then what do- t:tit t:tit7 they go to go fund me and then what do they do? uutt— me and then what do they do? vvuot to— me and then what do they do? vvuot to tuey— me and then what do they do? what do they type in? um, so, so l, what do they type in? um, so, so i, i what do they type in? um, so, so ., t tetteve—

what do they type in? um, so, so i, i believe kyiv if you probably google my name and go fund me, it should come up there is right link. i think that's right. i looked earlier and i met— right. i looked earlier and i tuet put— right. i looked earlier and i tuet put rouu— right. i looked earlier and i tuet put rouu tu— i g“ i looked earlier and i just put john in. john and it up— just put john in. john and it came up so john— just put john in. john and it came up so john chapel c h apl e john— came up so john chapel c h apl e rouu cuppet— came up so john chapel c h apl e rouu cuppet o— came up so john chapel c h apl e rouu cuppet u go— came up so john chapel c h apl e john chapel a go fund me i'm pretty— john chapel a go fund me i'm pretty confident— john chapel a go fund me i'm pretty confident that my viewers and pretty confident that my viewers out tteteuere— pretty confident that my viewers and listeners will— pretty confident that my viewers and listeners will help move the trut— and listeners will help move the riot .— and listeners will help move the riot . t-tt— and listeners will help move the dial. i'll certainly— and listeners will help move the dial. i'll certainly be chipping in dial. i'll certainly be chipping tu etrotgut— dial. i'll certainly be chipping in straight after— dial. i'll certainly be chipping in straight after the show. john it's in straight after the show. john to eo— in straight after the show. john to so good— in straight after the show. john up so good to— in straight after the show. john it's so good to have you on the stow.— it's so good to have you on the euovv. more— it's so good to have you on the show. more power— it's so good to have you on the show. more power to you. it's tmportuut— show. more power to you. it's important that— show. more power to you. it's important that you've told your story— important that you've told your story out— important that you've told your etory out oteo— important that you've told your story and also all— important that you've told your story and also all my hope and prayers— story and also all my hope and proyere tor— story and also all my hope and prayers for this— story and also all my hope and prayers for this treatment to gummy— prayers for this treatment to actually really— prayers for this treatment to actually really help. quick euout— actually really help. quick euout out— actually really help. quick shout out to _ actually really help. quick shout out to your missus, your tovety— shout out to your missus, your tovety tore. — shout out to your missus, your lovely mrs. childhood sweethearts- lovely mrs. childhood sweethearts . you were. she's sweethearts. you were. she's vvrttteu— sweethearts. you were. she's written about— sweethearts. you were. she's written about in— sweethearts. you were. she's written about in the in the emote.— written about in the in the article. nikki,— written about in the in the article. nikki, how's nikki totug— article. nikki, how's nikki totug e — article. nikki, how's nikki totuge uu— article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? uh, she- article. nikki, how's nikki doing ? “ article. nikki, how's nikki doing? “ doing? uh, she. she's okay. i mean, she's she's a pillar of strength for me at the moment. she obviously with how i'm feeling, i can't often do housework. i can't cook . you

housework. i can't cook. you know, sometimes i can barely even wash myself. so um, unfortunately for her, she's ended up in her early 30s, becoming almost like a you know, a part time carer. but she's, she's dealt with it with, with grace and, and good humour and the love that has always characterised our relationship. i mean , she's, she's been an i mean, she's, she's been an angel really. so so yeah, i mean i know it's difficult for her because cancer doesn't just affect the person it affects, it affects everyone. but yeah, she's, she's, she's wonderful. well, listen, she's a lucky lady to what a guy. a well, listen, she's a lucky lady to what a guy . a privilege to to what a guy. a privilege to tove— to what a guy. a privilege to uove you— to what a guy. a privilege to uove you ou— to what a guy. a privilege to have you on the— gay a privilege to have you on the show. i do hope you-tt— have you on the show. i do hope you-tt tom— have you on the show. i do hope you-tt totu ue— have you on the show. i do hope you'll join us again— have you on the show. i do hope you'll join us again to let us mou— you'll join us again to let us tuovv uovv— you'll join us again to let us know how you're— you'll join us again to let us know how you're getting on with tutt— know how you're getting on with tuot ue— know how you're getting on with that new treatment. and as i say,— that new treatment. and as i say, t— that new treatment. and as i say, t-tuot— that new treatment. and as i say, t-tuut my- that new treatment. and as i say, i that my viewers and say, i know that my viewers and tteteuere—tor- say, i know that my viewers and listeners—for you- say, i know that my viewers and listeners—for you .- listeners are rooting for you. rouu,— listeners are rooting for you. rouu, ttgut— listeners are rooting for you. john, thank you _ listeners are rooting for you. john, thank you . john, thank you. thanks a lot, mark. there you go. john chappell, what- mark. there you go. john chappell, what a- tgtit john chappell, what a story. we've reoeuet— chappell, what a story. we've retouet out— chappell, what a story. we've reached out to— chappell, what a story. we've reached out to the nhs trust in gueettou— reached out to the nhs trust in gueettou tor— reached out to the nhs trust in question for comment, but as yet tove— question for comment, but as yet uove uot— question for comment, but as yet have not received— question for comment, but as yet have not received a— question for comment, but as yet have not received a statement. text— have not received a statement. next up— have not received a statement. next up tu— have not received a statement. next up tu tutt— have not received a statement.

next up in dial dolan in which t-m— next up in dial dolan in which t-m tottug— next up in dial dolan in which t-m tottug your— next up in dial dolan in which i'm taking your video calls , is i'm taking your video calls, is tuttttp— i'm taking your video calls, is phillip schofield— i'm taking your video calls, is phillip schofield the victim of a phillip schofield the victim of outtou— phillip schofield the victim of a witch hunt?— phillip schofield the victim of a witch hunt? plus, i'll be teottug— a witch hunt? plus, i'll be dealing with— a witch hunt? plus, i'll be dealing with the woke nationwide in dealing with the woke nationwide tu my— dealing with the woke nationwide tu my ttg— dealing with the woke nationwide tu my tug optutou— dealing with the woke nationwide in my big opinion at nine and seuottett— in my big opinion at nine and schofield at— in my big opinion at nine and schofield at ten. _ in my big opinion at nine and schofield at ten. it's a busy stow.— schofield at ten. it's a busy euovv. see— schofield at ten. it's a busy show. see you— schofield at ten. it's a busy show. see you .—

in two. well, i in tw0.j well, it's i in two. - well, it's time | tu two.- well, it's time now | tu tvvo. — well, it's time now for dale potm— well, it's time now for dale uotuu tu— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which i— well, it's time now for dale dolan in which i take your video cotte— dolan in which i take your video outte. aut— dolan in which i take your video calls. and this— dolan in which i take your video calls. and this evening, amid tue— calls. and this evening, amid tue tottout— calls. and this evening, amid the fallout from _ calls. and this evening, amid the fallout from phillip schofield _ the fallout from phillip schofield departure from itv , schofield departure from itv, eeverot— schofield departure from itv, several public— schofield departure from itv, several public figures, tuetuttug— several public figures, including former bbc presenter mtuort— including former bbc presenter richard bacon— including former bbc presenter richard bacon ,_ including former bbc presenter richard bacon , have said it's richard bacon, have said it's ttme— richard bacon, have said it's ttme to— richard bacon, have said it's ttme to stop— richard bacon, have said it's time to stop piling on this tumou— time to stop piling on this human being— time to stop piling on this human being .— time to stop piling on this human being . meanwhile, the human being. meanwhile, the motuer— human being. meanwhile, the motuer ot— human being. meanwhile, the mother of tv— human being. meanwhile, the mother of tv presenter caroline gag,— mother of tv presenter caroline pug, vvuo — mother of tv presenter caroline flack, who tragically took her ttte — flack, who tragically took her ttte omtt— flack, who tragically took her life amid media— flack, who tragically took her life amid media pressure , has life amid media pressure, has tott— life amid media pressure, has tott tue— life amid media pressure, has told the bbc's_ life amid media pressure, has told the bbc's newsnight that itv t0ld the bbc's newsnight that try tove— t0ld the bbc's newsnight that try uuve uot— told the bbc's newsnight that itv have not learned from their mtetotee— itv have not learned from their mtetotee .— itv have not learned from their mtetotee . so— itv have not learned from their mistakes . so is— itv have not learned from their mistakes. so is the itv have not learned from their mistakes . so is the criticism mistakes. so is the criticism tovvorte— mistakes. so is the criticism towards schofield now too harsh? is towards schofield now too harsh?

te tuere— towards schofield now too harsh? te tuere o— towards schofield now too harsh? is there a witch— towards schofield now too harsh? is there a witch hunt against tue— is there a witch hunt against tue tormere— is there a witch hunt against the former? this— is there a witch hunt against the former? this morning preeeuter— the former? this morning preeeuter .— the former? this morning presenter . let's get the views presenter. let's get the views of presenter. let's get the views ot atm— presenter. let's get the views ot atou tu— presenter. let's get the views of alan in grimsby. presenter. let's get the views of alan in grimsby . sue in of alan in grimsby. sue in cueeutre— of alan in grimsby. sue in cheshire and— of alan in grimsby. sue in cheshire and john in birmingham . ttret— cheshire and john in birmingham . ttret ot— cheshire and john in birmingham . ttret ot utt— cheshire and john in birmingham . first of all, alan— cheshire and john in birmingham . first of all, alan in grimsby, a warm welcome— . first of all, alan in grimsby, a warm welcome to mark dolan toutgut. — a warm welcome to mark dolan toutgut. a— a warm welcome to mark dolan tonight. a welcome new be. wuot-e— tonight. a welcome new be. vvuot-e your— tonight. a welcome new be. what's your reaction to this story— what's your reaction to this story .— what's your reaction to this story . — what's your reaction to this etory . out— what's your reaction to this story. obe dumas- what's your reaction to this story . [jit j. i don't think story. obe dumas. i don't think tuere-e— story. obe dumas. i don't think tuere-e guy— story. obe dumas. i don't think there's any kind— story. obe dumas. i don't think there's any kind of— story. [jit j. i don't think there's any kind of witch hunt ogotuet— there's any kind of witch hunt against schofield at all. he's a tourtu— against schofield at all. he's a tourtu rote— against schofield at all. he's a fourth rate celebrity who's prototy— fourth rate celebrity who's probably quite— fourth rate celebrity who's probably quite well known on the tv ,_ probably quite well known on the tv , out— probably quite well known on the tv , out to— probably quite well known on the tv , and it's probably right, tv, and it's probably right, gtveu— tv, and it's probably right, gtveu vvuot-e— tv, and it's probably right, given what's happened , that the given what's happened, that the toeue— given what's happened, that the tooue te— given what's happened, that the tooue te ou— given what's happened, that the focus is on him.— given what's happened, that the focus is on him. but i don't tutut— focus is on him. but i don't think there's— focus is on him. but i don't think there's any- focus is on him. but i don't think there's any witch hunt ogotuet— think there's any witch hunt ogotuet utm — think there's any witch hunt against him at— think there's any witch hunt against him at .— think there's any witch hunt against him at . all ti; g: against him at. all he's argued. atm— against him at. all he's argued. alan that this is homophobic . if alan that this is homophobic. if he was a straight man, this wouldn't be a story. do you share that view? alan dumas i don't. ithink share that view? alan dumas i don't. i think that's absolute

nonsense . what— t:tit“ . i think that's absolute nonsense . what i've seen of his nonsense. what i've seen of his tutervtevv— nonsense. what i've seen of his tutervtevv out— nonsense. what i've seen of his interview and his— nonsense. what i've seen of his interview and his explanation of it interview and his explanation of tt vvoutt— interview and his explanation of tt vvoutt seem— interview and his explanation of it would seem to— interview and his explanation of it would seem to be him trying to tuettty— it would seem to be him trying to tuettty or— it would seem to be him trying to justify or make— it would seem to be him trying to justify or make himself out to justify or make himself out to te— to justify or make himself out to be u— to justify or make himself out to be a victim— to justify or make himself out to be a victim or— to justify or make himself out to be a victim or the victims in tute— to be a victim or the victims in me re— to be a victim or the victims in me ute— to be a victim or the victims in this are his wife,— to be a victim or the victims in this are his wife, his children out— this are his wife, his children out tue— this are his wife, his children and the people— this are his wife, his children and the people who were actually on and the people who were actually ou tue — and the people who were actually ou tue eet— and the people who were actually on the set working— and the people who were actually on the set working with them. aut— on the set working with them. aut tt— on the set working with them. aut tt tue — on the set working with them. and if the stories— on the set working with them. and if the stories that have out— and if the stories that have come out about— and if the stories that have come out about him and his teuovtour— come out about him and his behaviour on— come out about him and his behaviour on set— come out about him and his behaviour on set and what kind of behaviour on set and what kind ot pump— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna he— behaviour on set and what kind of prima donna he was or ouytutug— of prima donna he was or ouytutug to— of prima donna he was or anything to 90- of prima donna he was or anything to go by, i imagine tuere-e— anything to go by, i imagine tuere-e gutte— anything to go by, i imagine there's quite a— anything to go by, i imagine there's quite a few people who vvut— there's quite a few people who vvttt te— there's quite a few people who vvttt te gutte— there's quite a few people who will be quite happy to see him tott— will be quite happy to see him tott .— will be quite happy to see him tott . uut— will be quite happy to see him tott . out to— will be quite happy to see him fall. but do think— will be quite happy to see him fall . but do think it's fall. but do think it's homophobic, homophobic . do you homophobic, homophobic. do you tutut— homophobic, homophobic. do you tutut tuere-e— homophobic, homophobic. do you think there's a— homophobic, homophobic. do you think there's a witch hunt ogotuet— think there's a witch hunt against him?— think there's a witch hunt against him? absolutely not. ue-e— against him? absolutely not. me prototy— against him? absolutely not. he's probably getting the right tevet— he's probably getting the right tevet ot— he's probably getting the right level of attention that he ueeet— level of attention that he needs. well— level of attention that he needs. well i'm delighted to vvetome— needs. well i'm delighted to welcome another brand new star to mort— welcome another brand new star to ttort potm— welcome another brand new star to mark dolan tonight, and mute— to mark dolan tonight, and mate rouu— to mark dolan tonight, and that's john in— to mark dolan tonight, and that's john in england , second that's john in england, second try— that's john in england, second otty ot— that's john in england, second city of birmingham . city of birmingham. john, what do city of birmingham. john, what to you— city of birmingham. john, what do you think ? do you worry for do you think? do you worry for schofield's mental health? he hinted that he considered suicide when all of this blew up. should we worry about that ?

up. should we worry about that? good evening, mark. um, i think we euoutt— good evening, mark. um, i think we should worry— good evening, mark. um, i think we should worry slightly because otvtouety— we should worry slightly because obviously philip— we should worry slightly because obviously philip has been living vvttu— obviously philip has been living vvttu tue— obviously philip has been living vvttu tue toy— obviously philip has been living with the day to— obviously philip has been living with the day to day worry and tormeut— with the day to day worry and tormeut ot— with the day to day worry and torment of whether this story vvoutt— torment of whether this story vvoutt te— torment of whether this story would be exposed. and now it me — would be exposed. and now it me uee— would be exposed. and now it has. he's obviously dealing with a has. he's obviously dealing with otremeutoue— has. he's obviously dealing with a tremendous amount of pressure uee— a tremendous amount of pressure uere. aut— a tremendous amount of pressure uere. aut vvueu— a tremendous amount of pressure here. and when you— a tremendous amount of pressure here. and when you we have to remember he's— here. and when you we have to remember he's lost his his job, vvutou— remember he's lost his his job, vvutou ue— remember he's lost his his job, vvutou ue uut— remember he's lost his his job, which he had a— remember he's lost his his job, which he had a daily routine on. uee— which he had a daily routine on. ue-e toet— which he had a daily routine on. ue-e toet ute— which he had a daily routine on. he's lost his friendship , aukus. he's lost his friendship, aukus. aut— he's lost his friendship, aukus. aut tt-e— he's lost his friendship, aukus. aut tt-e very— he's lost his friendship, aukus. and it's very easy— he's lost his friendship, aukus. and it's very easy to go into a tort— and it's very easy to go into a tort ptooe— and it's very easy to go into a dark place when— and it's very easy to go into a dark place when you're having euou— dark place when you're having euou moum— dark place when you're having such amount of— dark place when you're having such amount of scrutiny. put on you.— such amount of scrutiny. put on you. t-m— such amount of scrutiny. put on you. t-m uot— such amount of scrutiny. put on you. i'm not condoning some of pr...— you. i'm not condoning some of tue, um— you. i'm not condoning some of tue, umvtee— you. i'm not condoning some of the, um, unwise mistakes. he's mote.— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's mote. um,— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's mote. um, tut— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's made. um, but i— the, um, unwise mistakes. he's made. um, but i do think it is a tremeutoue— made. um, but i do think it is a tremendous amount of pressure . tremendous amount of pressure. aut— tremendous amount of pressure. aut t— tremendous amount of pressure. aut t rememert— tremendous amount of pressure. and i remember the sad story about— and i remember the sad story about caroline— and i remember the sad story about caroline flack , and about caroline flack, and otvtouety— about caroline flack, and obviously we— about caroline flack, and obviously we don't want to read in obviously we don't want to read tu u— obviously we don't want to read tu o tevv— obviously we don't want to read in a few weeks— obviously we don't want to read in a few weeks time that philip uot— in a few weeks time that philip uot toue—

in a few weeks time that philip had done something untoward teoouee— had done something untoward teoouee tt-e— had done something untoward because it's so— had done something untoward because it's so easy to slip tuto— because it's so easy to slip tuto o— because it's so easy to slip tuto u very— because it's so easy to slip into a very dark— because it's so easy to slip into a very dark hole. but i do teet— into a very dark hole. but i do teet try— into a very dark hole. but i do feel itv, senior— into a very dark hole. but i do feel itv, senior management at uttuougu— feel itv, senior management at ottuougu uee— feel itv, senior management at although he's he's— feel itv, senior management at although he's he's now not vvorttug— although he's he's now not working with— although he's he's now not working with them. but i think tuey— working with them. but i think tuey etttt— working with them. but i think they still have— working with them. but i think they still have a— working with them. but i think they still have a duty of care tovvorte— they still have a duty of care towards him _ they still have a duty of care towards him .— they still have a duty of care towards him . um, and although towards him. um, and although uee— towards him. um, and although ue-e mute— towards him. um, and although he's made mistakes, yes. but i tutut— he's made mistakes, yes. but i tutut tuey— he's made mistakes, yes. but i think they still— he's made mistakes, yes. but i think they still should be mottug— think they still should be making sure— think they still should be making sure he's got the right care around him— making sure he's got the right care around him to keep him on the care around him to keep him on tue rtgut— care around him to keep him on the right road. _ care around him to keep him on the right road. tgtit care around him to keep him on the right road. gtit the right road. let's now go to a mark dolan tonight legend and sue in cheshire . sue, do you sue in cheshire. sue, do you have sympathy for schofield ? i'm have sympathy for schofield? i'm a bit i'm a bit torn, actually, mark because as i think , um , mark because as i think, um, having , mark because as i think, um, having, having , um, mark because as i think, um, having, having, um, a mark because as i think, um, having, having , um, a young mark because as i think, um, having, having, um, a young man as a lover , as long as what as a lover, as long as what they've said about it is true that he was over, he was in his early 22nd, that it was conceptual , early 22nd, that it was

conceptual, consensual and i don't see a problem with that . don't see a problem with that. a lot of older, older, gay men tote— a lot of older, older, gay men tote o— a lot of older, older, gay men tote o tot— a lot of older, older, gay men take a lot younger , um, men as take a lot younger, um, men as tuetr— take a lot younger, um, men as tuetr tovere— take a lot younger, um, men as their lovers and— take a lot younger, um, men as their lovers and partners and, you— their lovers and partners and, you mow,— their lovers and partners and, you know, shock,— their lovers and partners and, you know, shock, horror. a man vvuo-e— you know, shock, horror. a man vvuo-e uovtug— you know, shock, horror. a man who's having an— you know, shock, horror. a man who's having an affair tells tree— who's having an affair tells ttee otout— who's having an affair tells lies about it.— who's having an affair tells lies about it. that's not utueuot— lies about it. that's not unusual either. however, i do tutut— unusual either. however, i do tutut tutt— unusual either. however, i do think that the _ unusual either. however, i do think that the onus on in this, rory,— think that the onus on in this, toy. reotty— think that the onus on in this, toy. reotty te— think that the onus on in this, rory, really is on— think that the onus on in this, rory, really is on the management of itv. i can't tetteve— management of itv. i can't believe that— management of itv. i can't believe that they didn't they tttu-t— believe that they didn't they tttu-t mou— believe that they didn't they didn't know what was going on. gm,— didn't know what was going on. um, gtveu— didn't know what was going on. um, gtveu tutt— didn't know what was going on. um, given that this young man tu— um, given that this young man tu eueu— um, given that this young man was in such prominent positions in was in such prominent positions tu ott— was in such prominent positions tu ott tueee— was in such prominent positions tu ott tueee .— was in such prominent positions in all these , um,— was in such prominent positions in all these , um, dos that were in all these, um, dos that were going— in all these, um, dos that were gotug ou— in all these, um, dos that were gotug ute— in all these, um, dos that were going on, like the— in all these, um, dos that were going on, like the award ceremony , when no other runner ceremony, when no other runner uue— ceremony, when no other runner me ever— ceremony, when no other runner uoe teeu— ceremony, when no other runner has ever been there at all. and otvtouety— has ever been there at all. and obviously schofield was pushing that obviously schofield was pushing tuot out— obviously schofield was pushing tuot out tuey— obviously schofield was pushing that and they seem to have eomptetety— that and they seem to have completely bypassed their duty of completely bypassed their duty ot eure— completely bypassed their duty ot to— completely bypassed their duty of care to the— completely bypassed their duty of care to the young man in any aut— of care to the young man in any aut t— of care to the young man in any case. and i think— of care to the young man in any case. and i think there needs to be case. and i think there needs to te ou— case. and i think there needs to be an investigation, not only tuto— be an investigation, not only tuto tue— be an investigation, not only into the toxic— be an investigation, not only into the toxic abuse, especially

the into the toxic abuse, especially tue vvuy— into the toxic abuse, especially tue vvoy tuey— into the toxic abuse, especially the way they appear to have treated— the way they appear to have treated some— the way they appear to have treated some of— the way they appear to have treated some of their guests on the treated some of their guests on tue grow, — treated some of their guests on the show, both— treated some of their guests on the show, both him and holly and the show, both him and holly and the management— the show, both him and holly and the management and other people . tuey— the management and other people . tuey ueee— the management and other people . tuey ueet to— the management and other people . they need to look— the management and other people . they need to look into the tuveettgute— . they need to look into the investigate the _ . they need to look into the investigate the sort of toxic outture — investigate the sort of toxic culture there _ investigate the sort of toxic culture there and also clarify vvuetuer— culture there and also clarify whether this— culture there and also clarify whether this culture is only in tute— whether this culture is only in tuto tomo— whether this culture is only in this bomb programme and whether it's, this bomb programme and whether tt-e you— this bomb programme and whether tt-e you tuovv— this bomb programme and whether it's, you know, throughout the vvuote — it's, you know, throughout the vvuote ot— it's, you know, throughout the vvuote ot ttv— it's, you know, throughout the whole of itv as— it's, you know, throughout the whole of itv as well. so has tute— whole of itv as well. so has tuto ououget— whole of itv as well. so has this changed your view of itv ? this changed your view of itv? be this changed your view of itv? ue uoueet— this changed your view of itv? be honest and— this changed your view of itv? be honest and i've never watched itv be honest and i've never watched ttv tor— be honest and i've never watched ttv tor tue— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last 30— be honest and i've never watched itv for the last 30 years and why— itv for the last 30 years and vvuy uot?— itv for the last 30 years and vvuy uote uo— itv for the last 30 years and why not? no, um,- itv for the last 30 years and why not? no, um, i haven't. and eut— why not? no, um, i haven't. and eott moyte— why not? no, um, i haven't. and eott moyte us— why not? no, um, i haven't. and said maybe us came about. i've not said maybe us came about. i've uot vvotouet— said maybe us came about. i've not watched the— said maybe us came about. i've not watched the bbc except for the not watched the bbc except for tue repur— not watched the bbc except for me repotr mop.— not watched the bbc except for the repair shop. well yeah, wett— the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's.— the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's. _ the repair shop. well yeah, well, that's. that's probably one of their better programmes. interesting stuff. john what do you think about the future of this morning? can it go . on this morning? can it go. on it's very difficult to say, gap, — it's very difficult to say,

mark, isn't— it's very difficult to say, mark, isn't it?- it's very difficult to say, mark, isn't it? i mean, i was met— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was tuet thuttug— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was just thinking, i— mark, isn't it? i mean, i was just thinking, i remember when tutttp— just thinking, i remember when tutttp etme— just thinking, i remember when philip came out— just thinking, i remember when philip came out as admitting he was philip came out as admitting he guy— philip came out as admitting he guy ou— philip came out as admitting he guy ou tute— philip came out as admitting he was gay on this morning. um and tueteot— was gay on this morning. um and tueteot ot— was gay on this morning. um and instead of that— was gay on this morning. um and instead of that being a joyous out— instead of that being a joyous out uoppy— instead of that being a joyous and happy occasion , it felt and happy occasion, it felt reutty— and happy occasion, it felt really traumatic . btec and really traumatic. btec and otmoet— really traumatic. btec and almost like— really traumatic. btec and almost like a— really traumatic. btec and almost like a bereavement event. aut— almost like a bereavement event. aut t— almost like a bereavement event. aut t tutut— almost like a bereavement event. and i think the— almost like a bereavement event. and i think the people that he euoutt— and i think the people that he euoutt tove— and i think the people that he should have had— and i think the people that he should have had in the studio vvttu— should have had in the studio mm mm— should have had in the studio with him was— should have had in the studio with him was his— should have had in the studio with him was his wife and two tougutere— with him was his wife and two daughters. um,— with him was his wife and two daughters. um, i— with him was his wife and two daughters. um, i don't know vvuetuer— daughters. um, i don't know whether there _ daughters. um, i don't know whether there was something going— whether there was something gotug to— whether there was something gotug to te— whether there was something going to be exposed about him, uueu— going to be exposed about him, vvutou te— going to be exposed about him, vvutou te vvuy— going to be exposed about him, which is why he— going to be exposed about him, which is why he felt he needed to to— which is why he felt he needed to to tuot. — which is why he felt he needed to do that. but— which is why he felt he needed to do that. but i— which is why he felt he needed to do that. but i do think, um, tue— to do that. but i do think, um, tue extettug— to do that. but i do think, um, the existing presenters, alison uommout,— the existing presenters, alison uommout, te— the existing presenters, alison hammond, is really great. um, i tout— hammond, is really great. um, i tou-t mou— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how the— hammond, is really great. um, i don't know how the situation is for don't know how the situation is tor uotty— don't know how the situation is for holly willoughby. unfortunately, being so close to trump— unfortunately, being so close to tutttp .— unfortunately, being so close to rutttp . peopte— unfortunately, being so close to philip , people speculate that philip, people speculate that tutt— philip, people speculate that tuot eue— philip, people speculate that that she knows— philip, people speculate that that she knows a lot more than eue-e— that she knows a lot more than eue-e eoytug— that she knows a lot more than eue-e eoytug .— that she knows a lot more than she's saying . but— that she knows a lot more than she's saying . but but i that she knows a lot more than she's saying. but but i think tue— she's saying. but but i think tue moot— she's saying. but but i think the most important thing is when peopte— the most important thing is when peopte vvotou — the most important thing is when people watch these programmes, tuey— people watch these programmes, tuey uuut— people watch these programmes, tuey uuut to — people watch these programmes, they want to believe that the peopte—

they want to believe that the peopte — they want to believe that the people are real.— they want to believe that the people are real. and when i've ever watched— people are real. and when i've ever watched this— people are real. and when i've ever watched this programme , ever watched this programme, tve— ever watched this programme, t-ve otvvoye— ever watched this programme, i've always felt— ever watched this programme, i've always felt that it is rept— i've always felt that it is eat. out— i've always felt that it is real. but then - i've always felt that it is real. but then you realise as wett— real. but then you realise as well actually— real. but then you realise as well actually are— real. but then you realise as well actually are people being geuutue— well actually are people being geuutue out— well actually are people being genuine and when are they being tuter— genuine and when are they being tote-v um,— genuine and when are they being tote-v um, t-m— genuine and when are they being fake? um, i'm sure— genuine and when are they being fake? um, i'm sure you're being perteotty— fake? um, i'm sure you're being perfectly genuine— fake? um, i'm sure you're being perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um tut,— perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um up, tut— perfectly genuine tonight, mark. um but, but that's what people vvout. — um but, but that's what people vvout. tuey— um but, but that's what people want. they want— um but, but that's what people want. they want honesty . and i want. they want honesty. and i tutut— want. they want honesty. and i tutut tt-e — want. they want honesty. and i tutut to. te— want. they want honesty. and i think it's. it's such— want. they want honesty. and i think it's. it's such a shame, reotty— think it's. it's such a shame, reotty. tt— think it's. it's such a shame, really. if philip— think it's. it's such a shame, really. if philip had have been opeu— really. if philip had have been opeu out— really. if philip had have been open and honest— really. if philip had have been open and honest in the tegtuutug— open and honest in the beginning, things may have not toot— beginning, things may have not toot to— beginning, things may have not come back to sort— beginning, things may have not come back to sort of, sort of uouut— come back to sort of, sort of uouut utm — come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in— come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in this- come back to sort of, sort of haunt him in this way, but, um , haunt him in this way, but, um, i haunt him in this way, but, um, ttutut— haunt him in this way, but, um, t tutut tue— haunt him in this way, but, um, i think the programme can eurvtve. — i think the programme can eurvtve. uut— i think the programme can survive. but i— i think the programme can survive. but i think there needs to te— survive. but i think there needs to te ouougee— survive. but i think there needs to be changes to,— survive. but i think there needs to be changes to, to make it retreeuet— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and a— to be changes to, to make it refreshed and a new vibrant etort— refreshed and a new vibrant etort . — refreshed and a new vibrant etort . war,— refreshed and a new vibrant start . well, john,- refreshed and a new vibrant start. �*vajti;.. git““ refreshed and a new vibrant start . �*vajti;.. igi““ start. well, john, let me tell you that i will always be straight and honest with my viewers and listeners. i messed up intro to the show up the intro to the show producer. greg's furious with me, let me tell you, yelling down my ear. last word to alan in grimsby . alan, briefly, if in grimsby. alan, briefly, if you can, what about holly willoughby ? do you believe her

willoughby? do you believe her protestations that she knew nothing of this affair ? um , i nothing of this affair? um, i don't know a lot about- don't know a lot about the mark, but don't know a lot about the mark, put to— don't know a lot about the mark, put to te— don't know a lot about the mark, put to te gutte— don't know a lot about the mark, but to be quite honest, no , i but to be quite honest, no, i tou-t. — but to be quite honest, no, i tou-t. t— but to be quite honest, no, i don't. i don't— but to be quite honest, no, i don't. i don't think- but to be quite honest, no, i don't. titit“ . “

be dealing with— next up, in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with woke nationwide and be dealing with woke nationwide out trut— be dealing with woke nationwide out ttut out— be dealing with woke nationwide and find out why— be dealing with woke nationwide and find out why after this .

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me te— kingdom and across the world. me te mort— kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my tote— this is mark dolan tonight in my tote ut— this is mark dolan tonight in my tote ot tem— this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, following his bombshell— take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun uevvepopeu— bombshell interview with the sun uevvepoper. t-m— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper, i'm not— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper, i'm not buying philip souottett-e— newspaper, i'm not buying philip schofield's crocodile tears in my— schofield's crocodile tears in my big— schofield's crocodile tears in my big opinion— schofield's crocodile tears in my big opinion, as nationwide ott— my big opinion, as nationwide out tueutt— my big opinion, as nationwide add insult female customers with tuetr— add insult female customers with tuetr tuteet— add insult female customers with their latest pride— add insult female customers with their latest pride video teoturtug— their latest pride video featuring a _ their latest pride video featuring a man dressed up as a . tt-e— featuring a man dressed up as a woman . it's time— featuring a man dressed up as a woman. it's time for featuring a man dressed up as a woman . it's time for woke woman. it's time for woke manipes— woman. it's time for woke comanipes to— woman. it's time for woke companies to stay out of pottttoe— companies to stay out of politics and— companies to stay out of politics and my mark meets guest is a politics and my mark meets guest te o vvuo— politics and my mark meets guest is a man who has— politics and my mark meets guest is a man who has done just about everytutug— is a man who has done just about everytutug tu— is a man who has done just about everything in broadcasting, retro— everything in broadcasting, rotto out— everything in broadcasting, radio and tv— everything in broadcasting, radio and tv legend top of the pops— radio and tv legend top of the pops .— radio and tv legend top of the rope . you— radio and tv legend top of the rope . you uome— radio and tv legend top of the pops , you name it. radio one pops, you name it. radio one titte— pops, you name it. radio one tttte tert— pops, you name it. radio one tttte tett .— mike reid. aut- mike reid. and at 10:00 i mike reid.- and at 10:00 i will mike reid.— and at 10:00 i will be tttte toere.— and at 10:00 i will be dealing vvttu— and at 10:00 i will be dealing vvttu tuttttp— and at 10:00 i will be dealing with phillip schofield. you vvou-t— with phillip schofield. you vvou-t uuut— with phillip schofield. you won't want to _ with phillip schofield. you won't want to miss it, but woke uuttouvvtte— won't want to miss it, but woke nationwide died— won't want to miss it, but woke nationwide died next after the ueotttuee— nationwide died next after the headlines with— nationwide died next after the headlines with bethany elsey . headlines with bethany elsey. mort,— headlines with bethany elsey. gap, ttgut— headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you _ headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you . tifti; i

mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the newsroom boris johnson says he sent all unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry, bypassed the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an old phone that's locked due to security concerns . it has security concerns. it has discussions on it from before may 2021. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mr johnson's yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's messages over all mr johnson's messages and diaries . a 19 year old has and diaries. a 19 year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and became radicalised dunng islam and became radicalised during the covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother, who reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism programme , counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the right thing . at least 50 people right thing. at least 50 people have been killed and 350

hospitalised after two passenger trains collided in india. the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were carried to ambulances . officials carried to ambulances. officials say the number of fatalities is expected to rise . 20 people have expected to rise. 20 people have now been arrested in relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans , who were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were pursued by police. cctv shows the boys on an electric bike being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in the riots . phillip schofield the riots. phillip schofield says he's lost everything after revelations of his affair with a younger male colleague. at this

morning, the 61 year old resigned from itv last week after admitting to the affair and says he'll comply with an external review commissioned by the broadcaster schofield has hit out at what he described as relentless criticism and told the bbc he feels ashamed and sorry, but insists he didn't groom him . was a completely groom him. was a completely tuuoeeut— groom him. was a completely innocent backwards— g i“ was a completely innocent backwards and forwards o pertot— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of— innocent backwards and forwards over a period of time about a job,— over a period of time about a job otout— over a period of time about a job, about careers— over a period of time about a job, about careers , you know, i job, about careers, you know, i you to— job, about careers, you know, i mean, you do that— job, about careers, you know, i mean, you do that . what's what's mean, you do that. what's what's wroug— mean, you do that. what's what's vvroug vvttu— mean, you do that. what's what's vvroug vvttu tutt— mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that ?_ mean, you do that. what's what's wrong with that ? what was unwise wrong with that? what was unwise was wrong with that? what was unwise tue — wrong with that? what was unwise tue toot— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it— wrong with that? what was unwise was the fact that it happened out— was the fact that it happened out tutt— was the fact that it happened and that was— was the fact that it happened and that was a— was the fact that it happened and that was a very, very grave pow, tt— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was— and that was a very, very grave error. now, it was consensual, tut— error. now, it was consensual, tut tt— error. now, it was consensual, tut tt vvue— error. now, it was consensual, tut tt my— error. now, it was consensual, but it was my fault . and more but it was my fault. and more tterupttou— but it was my fault. and more disruption for— but it was my fault. and more disruption for holidaymakers as eeeurtty— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at— disruption for holidaymakers as security guards at heathrow atrport— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike oottou. — airport announce further strike oottou. tute— airport announce further strike action. this summer. - airport announce further strike action. “ in“ airport announce further strike action. “ “ action. this summer. unite the union says its members will stage 33 days of industrial action in a dispute over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from

mid—june to the end of august last year, up to date on tv onune last year, up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in this is gb news. now it's back to . to. marki i thanks, to. mert— . thanks, bethany. welcome to. mert— - thanks, bethany. welcome to thanks, bethany. welcome to mark . thanks, bethany. welcome to ttort potm— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight.— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big optutou— mark dolan tonight. in my big optutou, oe— mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, as nationwide insult tempte— opinion, as nationwide insult female customers with their tuteet— female customers with their latest pride _ female customers with their latest pride video featuring a treeeet— latest pride video featuring a man dressed up— latest pride video featuring a man dressed up as a woman, it's ttme— man dressed up as a woman, it's ttme tor— man dressed up as a woman, it's ttme tor vote— man dressed up as a woman, it's time for woke companies to stay out ot— time for woke companies to stay out ot pottttee — time for woke companies to stay out of politics. in— time for woke companies to stay out of politics. in the big story— out of politics. in the big story .— out of politics. in the big story , os— out of politics. in the big story , as keir— out of politics. in the big story , as keir starmer says, he story, as keir starmer says, he vvut— story, as keir starmer says, he vvttt uot— story, as keir starmer says, he will not explore— story, as keir starmer says, he will not explore the future gas out— will not explore the future gas out ott— will not explore the future gas and oil licences. _ will not explore the future gas and oil licences. i'm asking is ottmote— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change a— and oil licences. i'm asking is climate change a scam ? my mark climate change a scam? my mark meets— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest ts— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest is a— climate change a scam? my mark meets guest is a man who's done rust— meets guest is a man who's done tust otout— meets guest is a man who's done just about everything in broadcasting, radio and tv tegeut— broadcasting, radio and tv tegeut totte— broadcasting, radio and tv legend mike reid . top of the legend mike reid. top of the pops— legend mike reid. top of the rope tatto— legend mike reid. top of the pops radio one.— legend mike reid. top of the pops radio one. he's done it all in pops radio one. he's done it all tu my— pops radio one. he's done it all tu my tote— pops radio one. he's done it all tu my tote ot— pops radio one. he's done it all in my take at ten,— pops radio one. he's done it all in my take at ten, following his tomtsuett— in my take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun uevvspoper— bombshell interview with the sun uevvspoper uut— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the— bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i'm not tuytug— newspaper and the bbc. i'm not tuytug ruttttp— newspaper and the bbc. i'm not buying phillip schofield

crocodile _ buying phillip schofield crocodile tears. my reaction to tute— crocodile tears. my reaction to me segu— crocodile tears. my reaction to this saga after— crocodile tears. my reaction to this saga after ten on tonight's uevvsmoter ts— this saga after ten on tonight's newsmaker is the— this saga after ten on tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv stor— newsmaker is the fearless tv star ttm— newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn , who'll be star kim woodburn, who'll be tropptug— star kim woodburn, who'll be tropptug some— star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping some more truth bombs otout— dropping some more truth bombs otout tue— dropping some more truth bombs about the scofield_ dropping some more truth bombs about the scofield situation . about the scofield situation. mort— about the scofield situation. ttort potm— about the scofield situation. mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home ot tue— mark dolan tonight is the home ot tue papers— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's trout— of the papers with tomorrow's trout pages— of the papers with tomorrow's trout poges ut— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sump— front pages at exactly 1030 sump vvttu— front pages at exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who uoveu-t— sharp with three top pundits who uoveu-t teeu— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told— sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say out— haven't been told what to say out vvuo— haven't been told what to say and who most— haven't been told what to say and who most certainly don't tottovv— and who most certainly don't tottovv tue— and who most certainly don't follow the script— and who most certainly don't follow the script . this show's follow the script. this show's rept— follow the script. this show's reot. tt-s— follow the script. this show's real. it's uncensored. it's moouoeett— real. it's uncensored. it's uncanceled. it's wild. and uetptug— uncanceled. it's wild. and uetptug me— uncanceled. it's wild. and helping me deliver a lively and puuouy— helping me deliver a lively and puueuy suovv— helping me deliver a lively and punchy show tonight. lisa tteteuzte— punchy show tonight. lisa moteuzte .— punchy show tonight. lisa mckenzie , lizzie zita and mike mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike terry— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike terry .— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike terry . toutgut— mckenzie, lizzie zita and mike parry. tonight i'll be asking tue— parry. tonight i'll be asking me puuttte— parry. tonight i'll be asking the pundits, is— parry. tonight i'll be asking the pundits, is it the fire servtoe-s— the pundits, is it the fire service's job— the pundits, is it the fire service's job to move obese peopte?— service's job to move obese people? should— service's job to move obese people? should people be fined for people? should people be fined tor teettug— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks? and given tutt— for feeding ducks? and given tuot tuey— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak out for so many sueuty— that they sneak out for so many sueoty etggtes— that they sneak out for so many sueoty etggtes .— that they sneak out for so many sueoty etggtes . t— that they sneak out for so many sneaky ciggies , i should say, sneaky ciggies, i should say, gtveu— sneaky ciggies, i should say, gtveu tuey— sneaky ciggies, i should say, given they sneak out for etgorette— given they sneak out for cigarette breaks? should smokers be cigarette breaks? should smokers te toroet— cigarette breaks? should smokers te toroet to— cigarette breaks? should smokers be forced to work— cigarette breaks? should smokers be forced to work overtime? vte-tt— be forced to work overtime? we'll debate—

be forced to work overtime? we'll debate all— be forced to work overtime? we'll debate all of that with my puuttts— we'll debate all of that with my puuttte suortty.— we'll debate all of that with my pundits shortly. plus, your emote— pundits shortly. plus, your emails, especially spicy emails, especially the spicy mort— emails, especially the spicy ones. mark gb— emails, especially the spicy ones. mark gb news .com . this ones. mark gb news .com. this programme— ones. mark gb news .com. this programme tas— ones. mark gb news .com. this programme uas a— ones. mark gb news .com. this programme has a golden rule . we programme has a golden rule. we tout— programme has a golden rule. we tou-t to— programme has a golden rule. we tou-t to tortug— programme has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my oatm— don't do boring. not on my vvatou. t— don't do boring. not on my vvateu. t rust— don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it . so watch. i just won't have it. so a tuey— watch. i just won't have it. so a tuey tvvo— watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours— watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours to come. souottett— a busy two hours to come. schofield at— a busy two hours to come. schofield at ten. but first my big schofield at ten. but first my tug optutou— schofield at ten. but first my tug optutou .— schofield at ten. but first my big opinion . here we go big opinion. here we go again. yet big opinion. here we go again. vet auotuer— big opinion. here we go again. yet another company this time uattouvvtte— yet another company this time nationwide going— yet another company this time nationwide going down the woke ratttt— nationwide going down the woke ratttt tote— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with a— nationwide going down the woke rabbit hole with a bizarre video teaturtug— rabbit hole with a bizarre video teaturtug oue— rabbit hole with a bizarre video featuring one of— rabbit hole with a bizarre video featuring one of their bank vvorerst— featuring one of their bank workers parading in drag . this workers parading in drag. this is workers parading in drag. this ts att— workers parading in drag. this ts at to— workers parading in drag. this is all to celebrate the month toug— is all to celebrate the month toug tute— is all to celebrate the month long pride festival . all and are long pride festival. all and are we tue— long pride festival. all and are we tue ttrst— long pride festival. all and are we the first to— long pride festival. all and are we the first to celebrate the stores— we the first to celebrate the choices that— we the first to celebrate the choices that anyone has made in uter— choices that anyone has made in tttee tuto— choices that anyone has made in tttee vvuo tuey— choices that anyone has made in life? who they choose to fall in tove — life? who they choose to fall in tove vvttu— life? who they choose to fall in love with, how— life? who they choose to fall in love with, how they identify by soot— love with, how they identify by good tuck— love with, how they identify by good tuot to— love with, how they identify by good luck to you. _ love with, how they identify by good luck to you. it's a wonderful— good luck to you. it's a wonderful thing. it's a free oouutry— wonderful thing. it's a free oouutry .— wonderful thing. it's a free eouutry . uut— wonderful thing. it's a free country . but what i don't enjoy country. but what i don't enjoy is country. but what i don't enjoy ts tue— country. but what i don't enjoy is the broader— country. but what i don't enjoy is the broader messaging from the is the broader messaging from tue tttes— is the broader messaging from tue tttes ot— is the broader messaging from the likes of nationwide. if they

tout— the likes of nationwide. if they tou-t mou— the likes of nationwide. if they don't know the _ the likes of nationwide. if they don't know the implications of study— don't know the implications of blindly backing— don't know the implications of blindly backing these campaigns. tuey-re— blindly backing these campaigns. tuey-re stupttt— blindly backing these campaigns. they're stupid. and if they do tuovv— they're stupid. and if they do tuovv you,— they're stupid. and if they do know you, then— they're stupid. and if they do know you, then they are frankly stutster— know you, then they are frankly stutster tor— know you, then they are frankly sinister for because what's uappeutug— sinister for because what's happening here is a war on the very— happening here is a war on the very ttea— happening here is a war on the very ttea ot— happening here is a war on the very idea of gender itself with aspects— very idea of gender itself with aspects ot— very idea of gender itself with aspects of the _ very idea of gender itself with aspects of the pride movement aut— aspects of the pride movement aut tuat— aspects of the pride movement and that divisive— aspects of the pride movement and that divisive rainbow flag vvutou— and that divisive rainbow flag vvutou mauy— and that divisive rainbow flag uuteu mauy gay— and that divisive rainbow flag which many gay people feel does not which many gay people feel does uot represeut— which many gay people feel does not represent them _ which many gay people feel does not represent them , supports the not represent them, supports the mea— not represent them, supports the ttea tuat— not represent them, supports the ttea tuat you— not represent them, supports the idea that you can— not represent them, supports the idea that you can literally ouauge— idea that you can literally euauge your— idea that you can literally change your biological sex, that a man is a woman,— change your biological sex, that a man is a woman, that a woman is a man is a woman, that a woman ts a— a man is a woman, that a woman ts a tt-s— a man is a woman, that a woman ts a tt-s au— a man is a woman, that a woman is a man. it's an ideology which tetts— is a man. it's an ideology which tetts ttttte— is a man. it's an ideology which tells little boys— is a man. it's an ideology which tells little boys and little guts— tells little boys and little gtrts at— tells little boys and little girls at school— tells little boys and little girls at school that they can uoose— girls at school that they can choose their— girls at school that they can choose their own— girls at school that they can choose their own pronouns and tuat— choose their own pronouns and tuat tuey— choose their own pronouns and ma tuey may— choose their own pronouns and that they may be _ choose their own pronouns and that they may be trapped in the vvroug— that they may be trapped in the vvroug potty— that they may be trapped in the vvroug toty .— that they may be trapped in the vvroug toty . vvuy— that they may be trapped in the wrong body . why do nationwide wrong body. why do nationwide taut— wrong body. why do nationwide taut vvaut— wrong body. why do nationwide taut vvaut to— wrong body. why do nationwide bank want to endorse that ruesage aut— bank want to endorse that message, and how do their customers feel— message, and how do their customers feel about that message, especially female cusomerst— message, especially female customers? quick reminder that is customers? quick reminder that ts tatt— customers? quick reminder that ts uatt ot— customers? quick reminder that ts uatt ot tue— customers? quick reminder that is half of the population female

customers who— is half of the population female customers who feel cancelled by so—cattet — customers who feel cancelled by so—called trans— customers who feel cancelled by so—called trans ideology and who are increasingly— so—called trans ideology and who are increasingly losing their temate— are increasingly losing their temate outy— are increasingly losing their female only spaces ladies tottete— female only spaces ladies toilets, women's dressing rooms, even women's prisons and rape custo— even women's prisons and rape crtsts ceute— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers are— even women's prisons and rape crisis centre ers are no longer tue— crisis centre ers are no longer tue ecustvet— crisis centre ers are no longer the exclusive domain of ttotogtcat— the exclusive domain of biological females , as women are biological females, as women are rtgutty— biological females, as women are rtgutty augry— biological females, as women are rightly angry about_ biological females, as women are rightly angry about that as they are rightly angry about that as they atout— rightly angry about that as they are about being— rightly angry about that as they are about being called people vvttu— are about being called people with ovaries. _ are about being called people with ovaries. cis_ are about being called people with ovaries. cis women, humans vvttu— with ovaries. cis women, humans mm a— with ovaries. cis women, humans mm a cervtx— with ovaries. cis women, humans mm a cervtx or— with ovaries. cis women, humans with a cervix or even chest teeters— with a cervix or even chest teeters .— with a cervix or even chest teeters . a— with a cervix or even chest feeders . a nationwide happy to feeders. a nationwide happy to euorset— feeders. a nationwide happy to euorset tute— feeders. a nationwide happy to endorse this erasing of women. do endorse this erasing of women. to omeu— endorse this erasing of women. to uot— endorse this erasing of women. do women not have bank accounts and do women not have bank accounts aut toaus— do women not have bank accounts aut toaus aut— do women not have bank accounts and loans and mortgages? well, i tutut— and loans and mortgages? well, i tutut tue— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes of— and loans and mortgages? well, i think the likes of nationwide are think the likes of nationwide mortgagtug— think the likes of nationwide are mortgaging their own future vvttu— are mortgaging their own future vvttu tute— are mortgaging their own future with this divisive— are mortgaging their own future with this divisive woke nonsense . wuat— with this divisive woke nonsense . vvuat ts— with this divisive woke nonsense . vvuat ts tt— with this divisive woke nonsense . what is it their— with this divisive woke nonsense . what is it their business getttug— . what is it their business getting involved in these cutturat— getting involved in these cultural matters, their job is to teut— cultural matters, their job is to lend money— cultural matters, their job is to lend money to people all at great— to lend money to people all at great epeue— to lend money to people all at great expense to— to lend money to people all at great expense to us and geuerattug— great expense to us and generating great wealth for them . stay— generating great wealth for them . stay tu— generating great wealth for them . stay tu your— generating great wealth for them

. stay in your lane,— generating great wealth for them . stay in your lane, chaps or is it . stay in your lane, chaps or is tt cuaps— . stay in your lane, chaps or is tt cuaps or— . stay in your lane, chaps or is it chaps or they— . stay in your lane, chaps or is it chaps or they chaps them? who tuovvs— it chaps or they chaps them? who tuovvs 7— it chaps or they chaps them? who tuovvs a us— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like our— it chaps or they chaps them? who knows ? it's like our police knows? it's like our police otttcers— knows? it's like our police officers dancing and wearing ttags— officers dancing and wearing ttags at— officers dancing and wearing flags at pride— officers dancing and wearing flags at pride marches. it's not met— flags at pride marches. it's not tuetr tot— flags at pride marches. it's not tuetr top to— flags at pride marches. it's not theirjob to make— flags at pride marches. it's not theirjob to make the flags at pride marches. it's not their job to make the world a better— their job to make the world a better .— their job to make the world a better , fluffier_ their job to make the world a better , fluffier place. they're better, fluffier place. they're tue— better, fluffier place. they're tue pottce. — better, fluffier place. they're the police. it's— better, fluffier place. they're the police. it's their job to mate— the police. it's their job to mate tue— the police. it's their job to make the world- the police. it's their job to make the world a safer place . make the world a safer place. out— make the world a safer place. out tuey— make the world a safer place. out tuey seem— make the world a safer place. but they seem to— make the world a safer place. but they seem to have forgotten mat.— but they seem to have forgotten tuat. wuat— but they seem to have forgotten that. what about— but they seem to have forgotten that. what about the drinks compauye— that. what about the drinks company? innocent. this week tuey— company? innocent. this week tuey mate— company? innocent. this week they make smoothies, of course . they make smoothies, of course. they— they make smoothies, of course. tuey ctatm — they make smoothies, of course. tuey ctatm to— they make smoothies, of course. they claim to be— they make smoothies, of course. they claim to be ultra woke , they claim to be ultra woke, tuougu— they claim to be ultra woke, even though they are 90% owned by tue — even though they are 90% owned by me ctotat— even though they are 90% owned by the global corporate giant coca— by the global corporate giant coca cota— by the global corporate giant coca cota .— by the global corporate giant coca cola . how— by the global corporate giant coca cola . how does that square coca cola. how does that square 7 tuey— coca cola. how does that square e tuey put— coca cola. how does that square e tuey put out— coca cola. how does that square etuey put out a— coca cola. how does that square ? they put out a series of tweets— ? they put out a series of tweets this— ? they put out a series of tweets this week. innocent tastcatty— tweets this week. innocent tastcatty au— tweets this week. innocent basically an orwellian language gutte— basically an orwellian language gutte atvtstug— basically an orwellian language guide advising customers what vvome— guide advising customers what words we— guide advising customers what words we can and— guide advising customers what words we can and cannot use in retattou— words we can and cannot use in retattou to— words we can and cannot use in relation to those— words we can and cannot use in relation to those who transition tute— relation to those who transition me te— relation to those who transition tuts ts a— relation to those who transition this is a smoothie— relation to those who transition this is a smoothie company teattug— this is a smoothie company teattug us— this is a smoothie company beating us into— this is a smoothie company beating us into a pulp with all of beating us into a pulp with all ot tuetr— beating us into a pulp with all ot tuetr rc— beating us into a pulp with all of their pc nonsense . but of their pc nonsense. but ttzarrety— of their pc nonsense. but bizarrely, they— of their pc nonsense. but bizarrely, they referred to the ttermatt— bizarrely, they referred to the mermaid charity— bizarrely, they referred to the mermaid charity as legends, even

tuougu— mermaid charity as legends, even tuougu tute— mermaid charity as legends, even though this highly— mermaid charity as legends, even though this highly controversial orgautsattou— though this highly controversial organisation was— though this highly controversial organisation was exposed by the tetegrapu— organisation was exposed by the tetegrapu tast— organisation was exposed by the telegraph last year for sending cuest— telegraph last year for sending chest flattening— telegraph last year for sending chest flattening devices to teeuage — chest flattening devices to teeuage guts— chest flattening devices to teenage girls without parental tuovvtetge— teenage girls without parental tuovvtetge .— teenage girls without parental knowledge . and— teenage girls without parental knowledge . and it's a charity knowledge. and it's a charity vvutcu— knowledge. and it's a charity which encourages the prescribing of which encourages the prescribing ot puberty— which encourages the prescribing of puberty blockers. this is medication— of puberty blockers. this is medication to— of puberty blockers. this is medication to stop puberty for young— medication to stop puberty for young pimple— medication to stop puberty for young people ,_ medication to stop puberty for young people , innocent young people, innocent smoothies. _ young people, innocent smoothies. there with a not so tuuoceut— smoothies. there with a not so innocent message— smoothies. there with a not so innocent message . well, they innocent message. well, they vveut— innocent message. well, they vveut ou— innocent message. well, they vveut ou to— innocent message. well, they vveut ou to say,— innocent message. well, they went on to say, we're always toottug— went on to say, we're always toottug tor— went on to say, we're always looking for ways— went on to say, we're always looking for ways to be more tuctustve— looking for ways to be more tuctustve .— looking for ways to be more inclusive . so— looking for ways to be more inclusive . so we- looking for ways to be more inclusive . so we asked mermaids inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teacu— inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teacu us— inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teach us what's— inclusive. so we asked mermaids to teach us what's okay to say . to teach us what's okay to say. vvetcome — to teach us what's okay to say. vvetcome to — to teach us what's okay to say. welcome to hell.— to teach us what's okay to say. welcome to hell. and here's how patuettc— welcome to hell. and here's how patuettc tuese— welcome to hell. and here's how pathetic these companies are . pathetic these companies are. tuuoceut— pathetic these companies are. innocent have— pathetic these companies are. innocent have now deleted the tweets— innocent have now deleted the tvveets atter— innocent have now deleted the tweets after an _ innocent have now deleted the tweets after an enormous public tacttasu— tweets after an enormous public backlash demonstrating that tuese— backlash demonstrating that these corporations have no moraet— these corporations have no morals, no ethics, and no tacttoue— morals, no ethics, and no tacttoue .— morals, no ethics, and no backbone . it's- morals, no ethics, and no backbone . it's all virtue backbone. it's all virtue stguatttug— backbone. it's all virtue signalling. it's all fake, it's all signalling. it's all fake, it's at preteut— signalling. it's all fake, it's at preteut .— signalling. it's all fake, it's all pretend . they couldn't care all pretend. they couldn't care tees— all pretend. they couldn't care tees about— all pretend. they couldn't care less about your— all pretend. they couldn't care less about your human rights. tuey-re— less about your human rights. tuey-re rust—

less about your human rights. they're just trying to sell more of they're just trying to sell more ot tuetr— they're just trying to sell more ot tuetr sugar— they're just trying to sell more of their sugar laden products. yes:— of their sugar laden products. vee t— of their sugar laden products. vee t tuovv. — of their sugar laden products. yes, i know. they're their fruit smootutee— yes, i know. they're their fruit smoothies, but— yes, i know. they're their fruit smoothies, but fructose is ettecttvety— smoothies, but fructose is effectively the _ smoothies, but fructose is effectively the same thing . let effectively the same thing. let me tett— effectively the same thing. let me tett you— effectively the same thing. let me tell you this— effectively the same thing. let me tell you this is hot on the teete— me tell you this is hot on the ueets ot— me tell you this is hot on the heels of ben— me tell you this is hot on the heels of ben jerry's ice cream mg. .— heels of ben jerry's ice cream . ptctures— heels of ben jerry's ice cream man , pictures of— heels of ben jerry's ice cream man , pictures of a sickly man, pictures of a sickly catortttc— man, pictures of a sickly calorific slurry- man, pictures of a sickly calorific slurry that makes our true— calorific slurry that makes our ttts tat,— calorific slurry that makes our kids fat, lecturing the home secretary— kids fat, lecturing the home secretary ou— kids fat, lecturing the home secretary on britain's immigration policy or how about uatttax— immigration policy or how about halifax telling— immigration policy or how about halifax telling one of their customers that— halifax telling one of their customers that if they don't ute— customers that if they don't ttte tuetr— customers that if they don't like their employees pronoun tatgee— like their employees pronoun badges, which— like their employees pronoun badges, which are if you think about— badges, which are if you think about tt— badges, which are if you think about it, effectively compelled speecu— about it, effectively compelled speecu .— about it, effectively compelled speecu . tuey— about it, effectively compelled speech , they can— about it, effectively compelled speech , they can get an account speech, they can get an account somewhere else. _ speech, they can get an account somewhere else. charming well, as we've seen with— somewhere else. charming well, as we've seen with bud light, vvuo— as we've seen with bud light, vvuo vveut— as we've seen with bud light, who went woke— as we've seen with bud light, who went woke by employing a traus— who went woke by employing a trans woman who _ who went woke by employing a trans woman who mocked actual or us— trans woman who mocked actual women or us retail— trans woman who mocked actual women or us retail giant targets vvuo— women or us retail giant targets vvuo tave— women or us retail giant targets vvuo uave teeu— women or us retail giant targets who have been making swimsuits for who have been making swimsuits tor tras— who have been making swimsuits tor ttts tuat— who have been making swimsuits for kids that you— who have been making swimsuits for kids that you can tuck your tuto— for kids that you can tuck your tuto tue— for kids that you can tuck your into the expression go woke, go prote— into the expression go woke, go broke uas— into the expression go woke, go broke has never— into the expression go woke, go broke has never been truer. they uave— broke has never been truer. they uave tost— broke has never been truer. they have lost billions— broke has never been truer. they have lost billions and i couttu-t— have lost billions and i couldn't be— have lost billions and i couldn't be happier. the public vvut— couldn't be happier. the public vvttt tate— couldn't be happier. the public will take their—

couldn't be happier. the public will take their business elsewhere _ will take their business elsewhere and these corporations will eventually— elsewhere and these corporations will eventually learn their tessou — will eventually learn their lesson. people— will eventually learn their lesson. people are sick to the pact— lesson. people are sick to the pact teetu— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of this— lesson. people are sick to the back teeth of this woke crap and the back teeth of this woke crap and tue tttes— back teeth of this woke crap and tue tttes ot— back teeth of this woke crap and the likes of nationwide are uasteutug— the likes of nationwide are hastening their— the likes of nationwide are hastening their own demise. if tuey— hastening their own demise. if tuey perstst— hastening their own demise. if they persist with— hastening their own demise. if they persist with it. what a toau— they persist with it. what a toad ot— they persist with it. what a load of bankers— they persist with it. what a load of bankers . load of bankers. okay,- load of bankers. okay, folks, what's your reacttoue— okay, folks, what's your reaction? mark at gb news .uk tue— reaction? mark at gb news .uk tue tttes— reaction? mark at gb news .uk tue tttes ot— reaction? mark at gb news .uk the likes of innocent would argue— the likes of innocent would argue tuat— the likes of innocent would argue that they— the likes of innocent would argue that they simply want to ceate— argue that they simply want to create an inclusive world. they vvoutt— create an inclusive world. they vvoutt argue— create an inclusive world. they would argue that— create an inclusive world. they would argue that they've got tuousauts— would argue that they've got thousands of— would argue that they've got thousands of customers, some are traue— thousands of customers, some are traue tuey— thousands of customers, some are trans. they would _ thousands of customers, some are trans. they would argue that traue— trans. they would argue that traue peopte— trans. they would argue that trans people are— trans. they would argue that trans people are among the most vtcttmtset— trans people are among the most vtcttmtset tu— trans people are among the most victimised in our— trans people are among the most victimised in our society. trans people are among the most victimised in our society . all victimised in our society. all tuey— victimised in our society. all tuey vvaut— victimised in our society. all tuey vvaut ts— victimised in our society. all they want is equality for all, tuey— they want is equality for all, tuey vvoutt— they want is equality for all, they would argue not my view , they would argue not my view, but they would argue not my view, tut vvuat-s— they would argue not my view, but what's yours?— they would argue not my view, but what's yours? mark gb news . teacttug— but what's yours? mark gb news .com . reacting to— but what's yours? mark gb news .com . reacting to my big opinion .com. reacting to my big opinion - my— .com. reacting to my big opinion . my top— .com. reacting to my big opinion . my top puuttts— .com. reacting to my big opinion . my top pundits tonight author and academic— . my top pundits tonight author and academic dr.— . my top pundits tonight author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie , and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, touruattst— and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, toumattst aut— and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator uute— journalist and commentator lizzie zaetta_ journalist and commentator lizzie zaetta and radio and tv

broadcaster— lizzie zaetta and radio and tv broadcaster fleet— lizzie zaetta and radio and tv broadcaster fleet street legend. tet-s— broadcaster fleet street legend. tet-s te — broadcaster fleet street legend. let's be honest,— broadcaster fleet street legend. let's be honest, let's have it rtgut— let's be honest, let's have it rtgut .— let's be honest, let's have it rtgut , tatte— let's be honest, let's have it right, mike porky let's be honest, let's have it right , mike porky parry folks, right, mike porky parry folks, tet-s— right, mike porky parry folks, tet-s get— right, mike porky parry folks, tet-s get our— right, mike porky parry folks, let's get our teeth straight tuto— let's get our teeth straight tuto tute — let's get our teeth straight into this. lizzie— let's get our teeth straight into this. lizzie zita, your reacttou— into this. lizzie zita, your reaction to _ into this. lizzie zita, your reaction to nationwide's latest promottouat— reaction to nationwide's latest promotional video? well, i couttu-t— promotional video? well, i couldn't help— promotional video? well, i couldn't help thinking, look, i vvomeu— couldn't help thinking, look, i vvortet tu— couldn't help thinking, look, i worked in fashion and advertising- worked in fashion and advertising for quite a long ttme. — advertising for quite a long ttme. tute— advertising for quite a long time. this was— advertising for quite a long time. i“ i advertising for quite a long time. “ time. this was this idea idea. and this concept was made possibly about a year to eight months ago. and then it all starts everything gets passed off until we see what we saw today. off until we see what we saw today . and i'm afraid that today. and i'm afraid that a pubuc today. and i'm afraid that a public opinion is really turned against this nonsense. look, i'm against this nonsense. look, i'm a woman . it's taken us 5000 odd a woman. it's taken us 5000 odd years to get to this point where we're not even equal and people are coming into our spaces . i are coming into our spaces. i went to the hammersmith. i was telling my lovely friend lisa here that i went to hammersmith lyric theatre, went to the loo, the male and female unisex toilets walked in urinals all

the way down one side you had to walk past them to get to the and that would be blokes with their willies out. well yeah and i've got to— willies out. well yeah and i've got to tate— willies out. well yeah and i've got to take my— willies out. well yeah and i've got to take my if— .. well yeah and i've got to take my if taking a child in got to take my if taking a child tu tuere— got to take my if taking a child tu tuere you— got to take my if taking a child in there you cannot do it the vvortt-s— in there you cannot do it the vvortt-s goue— in there you cannot do it the world's gone nuts everybody. ves— world's gone nuts everybody. res vve— world's gone nuts everybody. yes we ueet— world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to _ world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to respect- world's gone nuts everybody. yes we need to respect everybody but we need spaces between us. we need to be together with spaces between us. i just think the world has gone crazy and they need to concentrate on getting people to answer the phone the money, not phone to manage the money, not getting into this whole political business. it's absolute nonsense. and it also that whole big trans look . i that whole big trans look. i mean, i know it's a great big laugh and we laugh about it, etcetera, but it does ridicule women. it does . no, we don't women. it does. no, we don't because gay men and women do not look like that. they look like us. they look like me. they look like you. they don't have to exaggerate it. or great big boobs , loads of makeup, loads of boobs, loads of makeup, loads of hair. it's like a parody. it's absolutely . it's not right. lisa

absolutely. it's not right. lisa innocent and nationwide would argue that they are bravely fighting transphobia, which is now taking root in our society. they're doing the right thing. i tutut— they're doing the right thing. i tutut peopte— they're doing the right thing. i think people can— they're doing the right thing. i think people can see through me — think people can see through me t— think people can see through this. i mean,— think people can see through this. i mean, i— think people can see through this. i mean, i have- think people can see through this. i“ think people can see through this. i mean, i have no problem at all with , uh, you know, i saw at all with, uh, you know, i saw the nationwide advert . you know, the nationwide advert. you know, it looks like they're cashing in on the rupaul's drag race. that's what that looks like to me. rupaul's drag race has been so successful . it's a brilliant so successful. it's a brilliant show. yeah. which is so successful world. successful all over the world. and cashing in on and people are cashing in on that. they're going, oh, you know, you know? know, draghi is money. you know? so i think that's what it is. but i think people now can see that these big companies, i mean, coca cola , the coca cola mean, coca cola, the coca cola owned innocent, an innocent pretending to be this. yeah. yeah. and it's disingenuous. one of the biggest polluters in the one of the biggest polluters in tue ward,— one of the biggest polluters in the world, coca— one of the biggest polluters in the world, coca cola. ' “ti . the world, coca cola. and it's disingenuous, you know, and i think whenever they try and sort of stray these big multi national companies start to stray into politics and activism, what it's doing , it's

activism, what it's doing, it's actually removing the politics and the activism out of the genuine gripes. well, mike, perhaps they've judged that the pubuc perhaps they've judged that the public love these campaigns. i l, public love these campaigns. i i, i tried to look up the figures and the most accurate one ican figures and the most accurate one i can get is that the trans community, not just in this country, but worldwide, is nought point 2% of the population. so nought point 2% of the population . so why on earth is population. so why on earth is so mucu— population. so why on earth is so mucu gag,— population. so why on earth is so much time, trouble,- “jiij�* so why on earth is so much time, trouble, effort, mouey— so much time, trouble, effort, mouey aut— so much time, trouble, effort, money and persuasion put into to trytug— money and persuasion put into to trytug to— money and persuasion put into to trying to accommodate and help the trying to accommodate and help tue teettugs— trying to accommodate and help the feelings of— trying to accommodate and help the feelings of 0.2% of the poputattou— the feelings of 0.2% of the population everton fans than mere— population everton fans than tuere are— population everton fans than there are trans— population everton fans than there are trans people in there are there are trans people in there tuctuttug— there are trans people in there are including your good self. mere— are including your good self. tuere are— are including your good self. there are absolutely now i'm not for there are absolutely now i'm not tor a— there are absolutely now i'm not tor a momem— there are absolutely now i'm not for a moment saying that we suoutt— for a moment saying that we should ignore— for a moment saying that we should ignore trans and all mat.— should ignore trans and all tuat. tuese— should ignore trans and all that. these people have an issue in that. these people have an issue tu ute— that. these people have an issue tu ttte. tuey— that. these people have an issue in life. they need— that. these people have an issue in life. they need recognition acttou— in life. they need recognition acttou. tuey— in life. they need recognition action. they they— in life. they need recognition action. they they want to be treatet — action. they they want to be treated fairly.— action. they they want to be treated fairly. and we all respect— treated fairly. and we all respect that. _ treated fairly. and we all respect that. but the amount of persuastou— respect that. but the amount of pesuastou tuey— respect that. but the amount of persuasion they now exercise in soctety— persuasion they now exercise in soctety ts—

persuasion they now exercise in society is utterly— persuasion they now exercise in society is utterly ludicrous. tor— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance ,_ society is utterly ludicrous. for instance , i— society is utterly ludicrous. for instance , i would say they for instance, i would say they get— for instance, i would say they get tue— for instance, i would say they get me trop— for instance, i would say they get me trop ou— for instance, i would say they get the drop on terms of time aut— get the drop on terms of time and attention— get the drop on terms of time and attention and money and tuttueuce— and attention and money and influence over— and attention and money and influence over people who've got cancer and a lot— influence over people who've got cancer and a lot more people in soctety— cancer and a lot more people in soctety uave— cancer and a lot more people in our society have got cancer than our society have got cancer than our trans would— our society have got cancer than our trans would you say, though, tuat— our trans would you say, though, tuat peruaps— our trans would you say, though, that perhaps it's— our trans would you say, though, that perhaps it's not it's not traue— that perhaps it's not it's not traue peopte— that perhaps it's not it's not trans people who are doing this. it's trans people who are doing this. up uot— trans people who are doing this. up uot tram— trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people— trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people who- trans people who are doing this. it's not trans people who are pushing this, is it? well they are influencing it, aren't they ? well, it's a bit like the tatour— ? well, it's a bit like the labour party— 7’ well, it's a bit like the labour party and it's an eatremtst— labour party and it's an extremist rump. yeah. who are teattug— extremist rump. yeah. who are teattug tue— extremist rump. yeah. who are leading the conversation. i also tttut— leading the conversation. i also tttut tt-s— leading the conversation. i also tttut is t— leading the conversation. i also think it's i also— leading the conversation. i also think it's i also think it's very fashionable and think very fashionable and i think it's fashionable young it's very fashionable for young people politics in people to show their politics in a particular way. and i've got to say, i work in a university and on university campuses and usually the more sort of wealthy russell group campuses, this sort of stuff is very fashionable. it's kind of the new what did it used to be? palestine it used to be or, or south africa. and it's kind of a new the poster of che guevara. yeah, i think it is anywhere where there is trouble. you've

got the extreme left- you've got the extreme left stirring aut— got the extreme left stirring aut sttrrtug— got the extreme left stirring and stirring and they're they're all and stirring and they're they're at tue— and stirring and they're they're at tue ttme.— and stirring and they're they're all the time. i— and stirring and they're they're all the time. i loathe them suaptug— all the time. i loathe them suaptug tue— all the time. i loathe them shaping the national conversation because people have a geuutue— conversation because people have a geuutue .— conversation because people have ageuutue , au— conversation because people have a genuine , an argument to make. a genuine, an argument to make. they— a genuine, an argument to make. tuey uave— a genuine, an argument to make. tuey uave a— a genuine, an argument to make. they have a genuine point to mate— they have a genuine point to mate aut— they have a genuine point to mate aut you— they have a genuine point to make and you get these extreme groups— make and you get these extreme groups tuat— make and you get these extreme groups that come— make and you get these extreme groups that come in and ruin it for groups that come in and ruin it tor everytoty— groups that come in and ruin it tor everytoty .— groups that come in and ruin it for everybody . okay. i g“ for everybody. okay. all right. war,— for everybody. okay. all right. well, look, coming up next, we'll be speaking to a top author, keir starmer wants to get rid of those gas and oil licences in the north sea. is climate change a scam? we'll get the answer to that . plus, should the answer to that. plus, should woke corporations stay out of politics? the results of our text poll

think it would have been worse as a young female that you're listening to, gb news nationwide have alienated many of their customers with a campaign video on twitter supporting pride with a drag act. however, stephanie caye— a drag act. however, stephanie saye tve— a drag act. however, stephanie saye be got— a drag act. however, stephanie saye be got uo— ti £ttg £tti. however, stephanie says, i've got no problem with vvuat— says, i've got no problem with what nationwide _ says, i've got no problem with what nationwide are trying to do. what nationwide are trying to to. tuey— what nationwide are trying to to. tuey vvaut— what nationwide are trying to do. they want to _ what nationwide are trying to do. they want to include all of

tuetr— do. they want to include all of their customers— do. they want to include all of their customers and be a bit more understanding , glenda says. more understanding, glenda says. gap,— more understanding, glenda says. gap, t— more understanding, glenda says. mart, t opeuet— more understanding, glenda says. mark, i opened an— more understanding, glenda says. mark, i opened an account with uattouvvtte— mark, i opened an account with nationwide last— mark, i opened an account with nationwide last week. i wish i uatu-t— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered .— nationwide last week. i wish i hadn't bothered . it's only for hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 hadn't bothered. it's only for re moutue — hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 months. and— hadn't bothered. it's only for 12 months. and then i shall ctose— 12 months. and then i shall ctose tt— 12 months. and then i shall ctose tt .— 12 months. and then i shall close it . stephen mark there are close it. stephen mark there are more men identifying as women to get tuto— more men identifying as women to get tuto vvomeus— more men identifying as women to get into women's spaces than mere— get into women's spaces than tuere are— get into women's spaces than there are women— get into women's spaces than there are women identifying as aut— there are women identifying as aut trytug— there are women identifying as men and trying to get into men's sacesp— men and trying to get into men's sacesp vvuttst— men and trying to get into men's sacesp vvuttst .— men and trying to get into men's spaces whilst . stephen spaces whilst. stephen anecdotally _ spaces whilst. stephen anecdotally that would seem to be true. — anecdotally that would seem to be true. t— anecdotally that would seem to be true. i wonder— anecdotally that would seem to be true. i wonder what's behind tuat— be true. i wonder what's behind tuat 7— be true. i wonder what's behind tuat e vve— be true. i wonder what's behind tuat e we au— be true. i wonder what's behind that ? we can ponder, can't we? that? we can ponder, can't we? tatte— that? we can ponder, can't we? tttte says— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark.— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark. it— that? we can ponder, can't we? mike says mark. it goes beyond vvuat— mike says mark. it goes beyond vvuat your— mike says mark. it goes beyond what your guests— mike says mark. it goes beyond what your guests are talking about— what your guests are talking about .— what your guests are talking about . tuey— what your guests are talking about . they talk of cashing in about. they talk of cashing in aut— about. they talk of cashing in aut tetug— about. they talk of cashing in and being fashionable. however, the and being fashionable. however, tue more— and being fashionable. however, the more sinister— and being fashionable. however, the more sinister view and more accurate reason— the more sinister view and more accurate reason for— the more sinister view and more accurate reason for this push of traue— accurate reason for this push of traus acttvtsm— accurate reason for this push of trans activism is— accurate reason for this push of trans activism is due to the destabilisation _ trans activism is due to the destabilisation of the west and a maratst— destabilisation of the west and a marxist agenda— destabilisation of the west and a marxist agenda in collaboration with globalist tsm— collaboration with globalist tt— collaboration with globalist tt you— collaboration with globalist tt you or— collaboration with globalist ism. if you or your guests can't tute— ism. if you or your guests can't tute tueu— ism. if you or your guests can't see this, then we— ism. if you or your guests can't see this, then we are truly tost. — see this, then we are truly tost. petty— see this, then we are truly lost. betty i've— see this, then we are truly lost. betty i've been with nationwide— lost. betty i've been with nationwide for- lost. betty i've been with nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous— nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous the— nationwide for 30 years. i think it's ridiculous the way large commes— it's ridiculous the way large companies advertise themselves. vvomeu— companies advertise themselves. women are women— companies advertise themselves. women are women and men are men.

petty— women are women and men are men. eetty tuaut— women are women and men are men. petty tuaut you— women are women and men are men. petty tuaut you tor— women are women and men are men. betty thank you for your no nonsense email— betty thank you for your no nonsense email . and this from nonsense email. and this from curte — nonsense email. and this from curte tast— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but not— nonsense email. and this from chris. last but not least, chris saye— chris. last but not least, chris saye ut— chris. last but not least, chris saye ut. mart.— chris. last but not least, chris says, hi, mark. i'd— chris. last but not least, chris says, hi, mark. i'd say these vote— says, hi, mark. i'd say these woke companies— says, hi, mark. i'd say these woke companies are creating a traueptotta— woke companies are creating a transphobia. we— woke companies are creating a transphobia. we never cared who tresset— transphobia. we never cared who dressed as— transphobia. we never cared who dressed as what. _ transphobia. we never cared who dressed as what. lviv and let tve— dressed as what. lviv and let ttve. uou— dressed as what. lviv and let ttve. uovv tt-s— dressed as what. lviv and let live. now it's shoved down your turoats— live. now it's shoved down your turoats aut— live. now it's shoved down your throats and people— live. now it's shoved down your throats and people are off at tetug— throats and people are off at tetug tott— throats and people are off at being told how— throats and people are off at being told how bad they are and vvuat— being told how bad they are and vvuat to— being told how bad they are and what to think. _ being told how bad they are and what to think. i— being told how bad they are and what to think. i will not preteut— what to think. i will not pretend for— what to think. i will not pretend for anyone in terms of pronouns, pronouns , my says pronouns, pronouns, my says curre— pronouns, pronouns, my says curte uot— pronouns, pronouns, my says chris, not pulling his punches . chris, not pulling his punches. vveu— chris, not pulling his punches. war, vve— chris, not pulling his punches. well, we asked— chris, not pulling his punches. well, we asked on twitter should vote— well, we asked on twitter should woke companies— well, we asked on twitter should woke companies stay out of poster— woke companies stay out of politics? 90%_ woke companies stay out of politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. ray.— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. toe sata— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. toe satt uo— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. toe satt uo .— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. 10% said no . and— politics? 90% nine 0% said yes. 10% said no . and it's time now 10% said no. and it's time now for 10% said no. and it's time now tor tue— 10% said no. and it's time now tor tue ttg— 10% said no. and it's time now for the big story.— 10% said no. and it's time now for the big story. critics of tue— for the big story. critics of tue ue— for the big story. critics of the new live— for the big story. critics of the new live action version of utsuey-s— the new live action version of disney's little— the new live action version of disney's little mermaid have teeu— disney's little mermaid have been labelled _ disney's little mermaid have been labelled racist with the utte— been labelled racist with the tune tttm — been labelled racist with the imdb film review website upgrattug— imdb film review website upgrading scores for the film teaturtug— upgrading scores for the film featuring the— upgrading scores for the film featuring the flurry of one star reviews . apparently that might reviews. apparently that might uave— reviews. apparently that might uave teeu— reviews. apparently that might have been because the lead cuaracter— have been because the lead

character was— have been because the lead character was played by a black ceseat so— character was played by a black actress. so our— character was played by a black actress. so our critics of the move— actress. so our critics of the movie horribly— actress. so our critics of the movie horribly racist , actress. so our critics of the movie horribly racist, or is it tuct— movie horribly racist, or is it tust a— movie horribly racist, or is it tuet a pat— movie horribly racist, or is it just a bad film _ movie horribly racist, or is it just a bad film with woke uysterta— just a bad film with woke hysteria surrounding almost every— hysteria surrounding almost every production? these days? is pottttcat— every production? these days? is political correctness destroying the entertainment industry ? who the entertainment industry? who setter— the entertainment industry? who tetter to— the entertainment industry? who tetter to ast— the entertainment industry? who better to ask than— the entertainment industry? who better to ask than the brilliant ttmes— better to ask than the brilliant times columnist— better to ask than the brilliant times columnist and long stauttug— times columnist and long standing theatre critic? thank cot— standing theatre critic? thank cot ues— standing theatre critic? thank god he's never— standing theatre critic? thank god he's never reviewed me. oueuttu— god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts_ god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi— god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi ,- god he's never reviewed me. quentin letts hi , quentin. hello quentin letts hi, quentin. hello ttart. — quentin letts hi, quentin. hello ttart. t— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello ttart. t mtgtt— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. i might have— quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. i might have to- quentin letts hi, quentin. hello mark. g mark. i might have to look forward. ilook mark. i might have to look forward. i look forward to a tu— i i look forward to a review in tomorrow's times. oueuttu, — review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first _ review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first of— review in tomorrow's times. quentin, first of all, your reacttou— quentin, first of all, your reaction to _ quentin, first of all, your reaction to this- quentin, first of all, your reaction to this accusation that peruaps— reaction to this accusation that peruaps cuttcs— reaction to this accusation that perhaps critics of— reaction to this accusation that perhaps critics of the little ttermatt— perhaps critics of the little mermaid live— perhaps critics of the little mermaid live action remake are racet— mermaid live action remake are ractst .— mermaid live action remake are ractst , a— mermaid live action remake are ractst , a tut— mermaid live action remake are racist , a bit peculiar to get racist, a bit peculiar to get uet— racist, a bit peculiar to get uet up— racist, a bit peculiar to get uet up about— racist, a bit peculiar to get het up about hal berry playing a mama..— het up about hal berry playing a ma... tetug— het up about hal berry playing a mermaid, being the wrong colour someovvu— mermaid, being the wrong colour somehow because— mermaid, being the wrong colour somehow because between you and me, somehow because between you and t— somehow because between you and t tout— somehow because between you and t tou-t tuou— somehow because between you and me, i don't know if— somehow because between you and me, i don't know if we can say tute— me, i don't know if we can say tute tute— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this early— me, i don't know if we can say this, this this early hour mermatts— this, this this early hour mermaids don't exist . this, this this early hour— mermaids don't exist . so the you mermaids don't exist. so the you ruuvv— mermaids don't exist. so the you tuovv. tt-s— mermaids don't exist. so the you tuovv. us a— mermaids don't exist. so the you know, it's a strange thing to consider that people might get

het up about that. it's quite possible. it'sjust het up about that. it's quite possible. it's just a terrible film. it possible. it's just a terrible film . it quite possibly, indeed film. it quite possibly, indeed is . film. it quite possibly, indeed ts . oo— film. it quite possibly, indeed ts . too you— film. it quite possibly, indeed is . do you think— 7 it quite possibly, indeed is. do you think critics are 7 it quite possibly, indeed is . do you think critics are now is. do you think critics are now uervous— is. do you think critics are now uervous atout— is. do you think critics are now nervous about criticising protucttous— nervous about criticising productions that contain a ttverse— productions that contain a diverse cast— productions that contain a diverse cast that if they're crtttcat— diverse cast that if they're critical, they'll— diverse cast that if they're critical, they'll get labelled tute— critical, they'll get labelled me or— critical, they'll get labelled this or that _ critical, they'll get labelled this or that as— critical, they'll get labelled this or that as they undoubtedly are this or that as they undoubtedly e — this or that as they undoubtedly a some— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of my— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? some of my i— this or that as they undoubtedly are ? i“ are? some of my i can tell you some of my fellow theatre critics on fleet street papers , critics on fleet street papers, they tell me that they will not dare criticise certain aspects of plays or productions. now what we're not what we're not saying here, mark, we're not saying here, mark, we're not saying that theatre cannot be political . theatre has been political. theatre has been political. theatre has been political since ancient greek comedy and some modern productions. if you think about the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, arthur miller's the crucible, fantastically political and really telling about modern youth actually , and about modern youth actually, and the frenzy of wokery modern youth. so theatre should be and can be political . however, what can be political. however, what what troubles people and

troubles audiences. i think , is troubles audiences. i think, is when the casting becomes so thuddingly wokeist that it gets in the way of the suspension of disbelief. theatre operates . the disbelief. theatre operates. the dealis disbelief. theatre operates. the deal is that you go in and you suspend your disbelief and you believe that the story that's going on is real and the characters are real and it becomes a problem if something interferes with that. and a lot of modern casting does get in the way of that, either by being gender blind or colour blind or disability blind or waitlist blind. and last summer we had a musical in in a open air theatre in london where they were away weight blind cast. so they cast it between you and me, a bunch of heffalumps as the chorus line . and it became ludicrous because the set started bouncing up and down as they were doing their big musical numbers and i was the only critic to point out the absurdity of this. everyone else said, how wonderful. well a lot of the other critics said how wonderful it was that a

musical was being cast with i can't remember what what the correct term is, but basically porker's playing the chorus line. and i say this as one with a certain amount of avoir. du bois himself said before your viewers point that out. so there is certainly a state recently, although i think it's improving that critics have felt unable to say things about certain productions. the royal shakespeare company, state subsidised, is among the worst of the wokies , and they had of the wokies, and they had a juuus of the wokies, and they had a julius caesar recently where brutus was played by a woman, which is okay. that's it's an interesting modern interpretation, if you like . but interpretation, if you like. but then you come to mark antony's line. but brutus is an honourable man, and we had that being forced down our throats. and brutus plainly wasn't a bloke , you know, it should have bloke, you know, it should have been. brutus is an honourable man. maybe but they didn't do that. and and, you know, the

whole thing we had, we had a non—binary soothsayer in that one as well. i think . and it is one as well. i think. and it is everywhere. it's been particularly prevalent in the subsidy ised sector, but and this is where can bring your, your viewers some comfort i've detected since the end of lockdown. there's been a certain pushback btec because i think theatres have realised they could earn some money again . and could earn some money again. and so the national theatre, which was previously pretty wokey, has now dropped a lot of that and is concentrating on box office again. so i think we have peaked at quentin. i always love reattug— at quentin. i always love reattug you— at quentin. i always love reading you in— at quentin. i always love reading you in the- jczj�*j..ti;“. “ i always love reading you in the times. i look torvvart— reading you in the times. i look torvvart to— reading you in the times. i look torvvart to my— reading you in the times. i look forward to my one— reading you in the times. i look forward to my one star review in tomorrow-s pa...— forward to my one star review in tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky , tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, tue— tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, the brilliant— tomorrow's paper, if i'm lucky, the brilliant quentin letts. vvuat— the brilliant quentin letts. one a— the brilliant quentin letts. we a guy. — the brilliant quentin letts. what a guy. what a character tve— what a guy. what a character he got— what a guy. what a character he got to— what a guy. what a character he got to say,— what a guy. what a character i've got to say, are thrilled to uave— i've got to say, are thrilled to uave utm — i've got to say, are thrilled to uave utm ou— i've got to say, are thrilled to have him on the— i've got to say, are thrilled to have him on the show. let's get utm— have him on the show. let's get utm-creg— have him on the show. let's get him-greg there's- have him on the show. let's get him-greg there's a- have him on the show. let's get him greg there's a keeper him back. greg there's a keeper for him back. greg there's a keeper tor—to— him back. greg there's a keeper tor—to come- him back. greg there's a keeper tor—to l for you. lots more to come, totte— for you. lots more to come, folks, including— for you. lots more to come, folks, including my top pundits. and folks, including my top pundits. aut tve— folks, including my top pundits. aut be got— folks, including my top pundits. and i've got some— folks, including my top pundits. and i've got some duty questions for and i've got some duty questions tor ttem— and i've got some duty questions tor tuem. uut— and i've got some duty questions for them. but first— and i've got some duty questions for them. but first up, let's tatt— for them. but first up, let's tatt atout— for them. but first up, let's talk about the— for them. but first up, let's talk about the environment. yes, tuteet— talk about the environment. yes, tuteet .— talk about the environment. yes, indeed . labour— talk about the environment. yes, indeed . labour leader keir

indeed. labour leader keir starmer— indeed. labour leader keir starmer has— indeed. labour leader keir starmer has said he will not graut— starmer has said he will not graut auy— starmer has said he will not grant any future— starmer has said he will not grant any future gas or oil eoptorattou — grant any future gas or oil exploration licences when he tecomes— exploration licences when he becomes prime— exploration licences when he becomes prime minister. so is tue— becomes prime minister. so is tue pursutt— becomes prime minister. so is me pursutt ot— becomes prime minister. so is the pursuit of net— becomes prime minister. so is the pursuit of net zero now tuevttatte— the pursuit of net zero now inevitable ?_ the pursuit of net zero now inevitable ? whichever government inevitable? whichever government is inevitable? whichever government ts tu— inevitable? whichever government ts tu cuarge— inevitable? whichever government ts tu cuarge ts— inevitable? whichever government is in charge is the— inevitable? whichever government is in charge is the science aouu— is in charge is the science around global— is in charge is the science around global warming now setttet— around global warming now setttet .— around global warming now setttet , or— around global warming now settled , or is— around global warming now settled , or is climate change a settled, or is climate change a cam— settled, or is climate change a t-tt— settled, or is climate change a scam? i'll bring— settled, or is climate change a scam? i'll bring you the results of scam? i'll bring you the results ot our— scam? i'll bring you the results ot text— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll on— scam? i'll bring you the results of our text poll on that shortly . uut— of our text poll on that shortly . uut tet-s— of our text poll on that shortly . but let's speak— of our text poll on that shortly . but let's speak to the author of . but let's speak to the author ot a— . but let's speak to the author ot a traue— . but let's speak to the author of a brand new— . but let's speak to the author of a brand new book that's getttug— of a brand new book that's getttug tue— of a brand new book that's getting the country talking. it's getting the country talking. tt-s ou— getting the country talking. tt-s ou tuat— getting the country talking. it's on that subject. it's by toss— it's on that subject. it's by toss-aut— it's on that subject. it's by ross-and it's- it's on that subject. it's by ross and it's called not ross clark and it's called not zero— ross clark and it's called not zero-ctat- ross clark and it's called not zero-clark joins- ross clark and it's called not zero clark joins us zero and ross clark joins us ut— zero and ross clark joins us ut, toss— zero and ross clark joins us now. hi, ross . _ zero and ross clark joins us now. hi, ross . .i “ “tg zero and ross clark joins us- now. hi, ross . good evening. hi now. hi, ross. good evening. hi war,— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi war, tuere— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi war, tuere you— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go .— now. hi, ross. good evening. hi well, there you go . is— now. hi, ross. .i “ “tg well, there you go . is climate well, there you go. is climate cuauge— well, there you go. is climate cuauge a— well, there you go. is climate cuauge a cam— well, there you go. is climate change a scam ?_ well, there you go. is climate change a scam ? um well, no, it's change a scam? um well, no, it's uot— change a scam? um well, no, it's uot a— change a scam? um well, no, it's uot a tt-s— change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. it's not— change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. it's not a- change a scam? um well, no, it's not a scam. . not a scam. it's not a hoax. there is evidence that the globe is getting warmer, and that's very likely to do with a lot to do with manmade influence, even if we can't quite prove it. but what we do have is a hysteria around climate change. now

where, you know, i keep reading that we're heading for an unliveable earth. when we get to 1.5% celsius above pre—industrial level temperatures, well, we're about 1.1 now. and the parts of the world already 1.5% celsius above r um, world already 1.5% celsius above , um, the levels that were in the 19th, mid 19th century and the 19th, mid 19th century and the world hasn't come to an end. and um, you know, i keep thinking, you know, was it john kerry the us climate envoy, keeps going round saying that 10 million people a year are being killed by the heat that's complete rubbish. it comes , it complete rubbish. it comes, it comes from a misquote of an australian study to years ago which found that 5 million people a year die from extreme temperatures and 9/10 of them are from extreme cold temperatures. and while the number of people dying from extreme heat is rising a little bit, the number of people dying

from extreme cold is falling even more so actually, if you want to attribute deaths to a climate change, actually, you know, climate change, you would say was saving lives at the moment. so it's just got to an absurd stage where this sort of kind, this sort of hysteria just feeds off itself. but, you know, we've now got sort of, you know , school kids who really think that the world is going to come to an end and they're going to they're not going to reach adulthood because we're all going to be killed by climate change. and, you know, it's rather, serious . some rather, rather serious. some trauma traumatisation that they've gone through. and so , they've gone through. and so, no, climate change is real, but it's , um, you know, not the not it's, um, you know, not the not the sort of, um , threat to the sort of, um, threat to humans , which is , you know, made humans, which is, you know, made out to be by so many people, although perhaps . ross some although perhaps. ross some would although perhaps. ross some vvoutt argue— although perhaps. ross some would argue it— although perhaps. ross some would argue it will— although perhaps. ross some would argue it will be- would argue it will be eventually— would argue it will be eventually .- would argue it will be eventually . why should we wait eventually. why should we wait aouut— eventually. why should we wait aouut tue— eventually. why should we wait around the cost— eventually. why should we wait around the cost of— eventually. why should we wait around the cost of dealing with the around the cost of dealing with tue crtsts— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will be— around the cost of dealing with the crisis will be far higher if

we tguore— the crisis will be far higher if we tguore rt.— the crisis will be far higher if we ignore it. it's— the crisis will be far higher if we ignore it. it's very clear tuat— we ignore it. it's very clear tuat tue— we ignore it. it's very clear that the majority of mainstream scteuttsts— that the majority of mainstream scteuttsts to— that the majority of mainstream scientists do believe there's a prottem — scientists do believe there's a prottem aut— scientists do believe there's a problem and believe we need net zero. how can that— problem and believe we need net zero. how can that many people be zero. how can that many people te vvroug— zero. how can that many people te vvroug 7— zero. how can that many people be vvroug evvett— zero. how can that many people be wrong ? well i'm not saying be wrong? well i'm not saying tuey— be wrong? well i'm not saying tuey are— be wrong? well i'm not saying tuey vvoug — be wrong? well i'm not saying they are wrong. i— be wrong? well i'm not saying they are wrong. “ . they are wrong. i mean, it certainly is right that we move to cleaner energy. we tried to cut carbon emissions maybe one day eliminate them, but you know, you've got to balance the dangers against the, you know, not having an economy . and if not having an economy. and if you try and sort of change to drop all net carbon emissions by 2025, which extinction rebellion seems to want to do, well, you won't have an economy left. you've got far more people being sort of killed by hunger and disease and everything else , um, disease and everything else, um, than would be killed by any climate change. so, you know, it's a question of balance. and at the moment we've just got this obsession with getting to net zero by 2050. this, of arbitrary date. and um, it seems to be riding roughshod over all

other considerations. you know, food, wealth , um, and you know, food, wealth, um, and you know, rich countries can cope with climatic extremes , extreme climatic extremes, extreme weathers, poor countries can't cope with natural disasters . and cope with natural disasters. and so, you know, if you impoverish people, you know, we'll end up with far more people in trouble than than we will otherwise. ross let's have you back on the show. ross clark is the author of show. ross clark is the author ot uot— show. ross clark is the author ot uot zero.— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it is— show. ross clark is the author of not zero. it is the- ross clark is the author of not zero. it is the book tuat-s— of not zero. it is the book that's getting— of not zero. it is the book that's getting britain talking. it's that's getting britain talking. us out— that's getting britain talking. us out uo— that's getting britain talking. us out .— that's getting britain talking. it's out now . coming up next it's out now. coming up next vvttu— it's out now. coming up next vvttu tue— it's out now. coming up next with the pundits— it's out now. coming up next with the pundits , is it the fire with the pundits, is it the fire servtce-s— with the pundits, is it the fire servtce-s tot— with the pundits, is it the fire service's job to— with the pundits, is it the fire service's job to move obese peopte?— service's job to move obese people? should— service's job to move obese people? should people be fined for people? should people be fined tor teettug— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks— people? should people be fined for feeding ducks ? and given for feeding ducks? and given tuat— for feeding ducks? and given tuat tuey— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak— for feeding ducks? and given that they sneak out for so many stggtes— that they sneak out for so many stggtes sceuru— that they sneak out for so many siggies scheur smokers be forced to wort— siggies scheur smokers be forced to work overtime?— siggies scheur smokers be forced to work overtime? and don't pop...— to work overtime? and don't torget, at— to work overtime? and don't forget, at 10:00— to work overtime? and don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing vvttu— forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing vvttu tuttttp— forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with phillip schofield all of tuat— with phillip schofield all of tuat to— with phillip schofield all of that to come— with phillip schofield all of that to come see you

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planet is dangerously overheat . planet is dangerously overheat. eating it will produce mass migration. big problems for the west , and it migration. big problems for the west, and it must be tackled. so, look, that's majority science. but we hear from all sides on this show. so keep your opinions coming. mark gb news .uk reacting to the big stories of the day. my top pundits with ringside seats for the big, big topics . dr. ringside seats for the big, big topics. dr. lisa ringside seats for the big, big topics . dr. lisa mckenzie , the topics. dr. lisa mckenzie, the only qualified person in the building at the moment, author, academic , journalist and academic, journalist and commentator. the fabulous lizzie zita and a titan of broadcasting fleet street legend mike porky parry. now fire crews are deaung parry. now fire crews are dealing with calls to help physically move obese people once every four hours. these cases , known as bariatric rescue cases, known as bariatric rescue crews, are linked. not surprising to a rise in obesity . so is it the surprising to a rise in obesity .so is it the fire surprising to a rise in obesity . so is it the fire service's to job move obese people? mike the problem with obesity is it permeates, right throughout society. for instance, we're now uavtug— society. for instance, we're now uavtug to— society. for instance, we're now having to build— i tigt for instance, we're now having to build ambulances, vvutcu— having to build ambulances,

vvutcu are— having to build ambulances, which are bigger than they used to te— which are bigger than they used to te vvttu— which are bigger than they used to be with more— which are bigger than they used to be with more suspension on tecaue— to be with more suspension on tecaue tue— to be with more suspension on because the people you put in the because the people you put in tue-so— because the people you put in tue-so tat.- because the people you put in the-so fat. did- because the people you put in the so fat. did you the back are so fat. did you tuovv— the back are so fat. did you mow-at— the back are so fat. did you know at crematoriums we're know that at crematoriums we're uavtug— know that at crematoriums we're uavtug to— know that at crematoriums we're uavtug to putt— know that at crematoriums we're having to build bigger ovens, for having to build bigger ovens, tor vvaut— having to build bigger ovens, tor vvaut ot— having to build bigger ovens, for want of a— having to build bigger ovens, for want of a better word , in for want of a better word, in vvutcu— for want of a better word, in vvutcu tue— for want of a better word, in which the bodies— for want of a better word, in which the bodies are inserted? tttut— which the bodies are inserted? tttut vve— which the bodies are inserted? tttut we to— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a— which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a better- which the bodies are inserted? think we do want a better word? yeah. okay okay. but you know exactty— yeah. okay okay. but you know exactty vvuat— yeah. okay okay. but you know exactly what i'm _ “tie“ okay. but you know exactly what i'm saying. in mouaurtee— exactly what i'm saying. in mortuaries, the— exactly what i'm saying. in mortuaries, the tables have had to te— mortuaries, the tables have had to te mate— mortuaries, the tables have had to be made bigger— mortuaries, the tables have had to be made bigger because the totes— to be made bigger because the tottes are— to be made bigger because the bodies are bigger.— to be made bigger because the bodies are bigger. they're examtutug— bodies are bigger. they're examining. so— bodies are bigger. they're examining. so this is just auotuer— examining. so this is just another example of the fact that the another example of the fact that tue vvortt — another example of the fact that tue vvortt ts— another example of the fact that the world is getting bigger . and the world is getting bigger. and it's the world is getting bigger. and is a— the world is getting bigger. and is a mucu— the world is getting bigger. and it's a much, much,— the world is getting bigger. and it's a much, much, much more serious problem— it's a much, much, much more serious problem than occasionally- serious problem than occasionally the firemen having to smasu— occasionally the firemen having to smasu a— occasionally the firemen having to smash a wall— occasionally the firemen having to smash a wall down literally to smain a wall down literally to smash a wall down literally to get— to smash a wall down literally to get a— to smash a wall down literally to get a uuge— to smash a wall down literally to get a huge obese lady like tuttvttuat— to get a huge obese lady like individual out— to get a huge obese lady like individual out of— to get a huge obese lady like individual out of that building and individual out of that building aut tuto— individual out of that building aut tuto au— individual out of that building and into an ambulance, which can tarety— and into an ambulance, which can tarety support— and into an ambulance, which can tarety support tue— and into an ambulance, which can barely support the weight of the persou— barely support the weight of the persou tt-s— barely support the weight of the pesou us a— barely support the weight of the person. it's a huge— barely support the weight of the person. it's a huge problem. cau— person. it's a huge problem. can t— person. it's a huge problem. can t mate— person. it's a huge problem. can t mate a— person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link— person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for- person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for it- person. it's a huge problem. can i make a link for it between the last story when we were talking about innocent drinks and obesity ? obe because isn't and obesity? obe because isn't it easier to kind of go, oh,

look, we you know, we're we're really care about the world. look at our stance on trans issues or lgbtq issues , but what issues or lgbtq issues, but what they're not doing is coca cola is not looking at the way that it it produces its drinks and the way its produces its its foodstuff. and it is filling them still with sugar and all sorts of other things . yeah, sorts of other things. yeah, yeah. and so, you know , is it yeah. and so, you know, is it any wonder that people are because we know that obesity is part of the food chain, isn't it? it's part of the it's also part of history. we have it eafien part of history. we have it easier, though, isn't it easier for the innocent and coca—cola to go look how look how good we are on this. but let's not talk about this. a distraction. yeah. and let's not talk about this stuff. that's that's actually harming people. well, of course, coca—cola would argue that they've range they've developed a range of products calorie. products that are low calorie. well, it's still full of sugar. spartan— well, it's still full of sugar. spartan . absolutely - well, it's still full of sugar. spartan absolutely dreadful spartan is absolutely dreadful for but look, this problem for you. but look, this problem goes know that british goes do you know that british kids have the worst diet in the

world? in the world, according to the nutrition trust, british kids are the worst diet. i mean, and we are talking about sugar. yeah of course it is sugars. i mean , we do have a choice, guys, mean, we do have a choice, guys, about what we put into our mouths and people in this country don't really cook . they country don't really cook. they unpack in italy , in france, in unpack in italy, in france, in spain. i agree. mediterranean. they have more of an honour of making dinner sitting down at the table. it's not. it has to come at government level because we need education. of course we do. we need to be educated on what to eat and also all the stuff like, you know, do you remember the triangle that they used to teach us about years ago? pyramid yeah, the food . it ago? pyramid yeah, the food. it needs the other needs to be inverted. the other way round. it's, you know , too way round. it's, you know, too much, much carbohydrate. not much, too much carbohydrate. not enough protein. half plate enough protein. half your plate should always green. and i'm should always be green. and i'm sorry . when to send my sorry. when i used to send my daughter school with a salad, daughter to school with a salad, beetroot, you know, tomatoes, pomegranate . they all laughed at pomegranate. they all laughed at her. they get when they come round my house. look , they

round my house. they look, they love it. they only wanted to eat white in house. white white bread in my house. you've got to get them trained up. let's about white you've got to get them trained up. le by about white you've got to get them trained up. le by way, jt white you've got to get them trained up. leby way, because you've got to get them trained up. le by way, because to bread, by the way, because to tue— bread, by the way, because to tue-a— bread, by the way, because to tue-a tag- bread, by the way, because to tue-a tag ot- bread, by the way, because to the a bag of breads the pond with a bag of breads aut— the pond with a bag of breads aut tosstug— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it to— the pond with a bag of breads and tossing it to the ducks is a cuertsuet— and tossing it to the ducks is a cherished memory— and tossing it to the ducks is a cherished memory for many of us. but cherished memory for many of us. out uot— cherished memory for many of us. out uot tt— cherished memory for many of us. out uot tt oue— cherished memory for many of us. but not if one london council's got auytutug— but not if one london council's got auytutug to— but not if one london council's got anything to do— but not if one london council's got anything to do with it. they say tuat— got anything to do with it. they say tuat treat— got anything to do with it. they say that bread doesn't nourish say that bread doesn't nouriin the say that bread doesn't nourish tue tucks— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and is— say that bread doesn't nourish the ducks and is probably tttttug— the ducks and is probably killing them.— the ducks and is probably killing them. so should people be killing them. so should people te ttuet— killing them. so should people te ttuet tor— killing them. so should people be fined for feeding ducks? tttgut— be fined for feeding ducks? tttgut-seem— be fined for feeding ducks? might seem have strong might you seem to have strong vtevvs— might you seem to have strong views on this? _ might you seem to have strong views on this? i— might you seem to have strong views on this? ”cg views on this? i have very strong views on it. a member strong views on it. i'm a member of a conservancy in surrey of a duck conservancy in surrey down in stockbroker belt. okay we look after our ducks down there. got lots ponds, there. we've got lots of ponds, lots on them, quack, lots of ducks on them, quack, quack. thank very much quack. thank you very much indeed. imitation is indeed. nice imitation is criticism like water off a duck's to you. water off duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to you. water off a tuck-s tact— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me— duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me now- duck's back to you. water off a duck's back to me now i- ti..i.

know about. now the people who come along with the peas and the carrots chuck them onto the carrots and chuck them onto the pond, my ducks just do a u—turn. they're away . they couldn't care they're away. they couldn't care less about rose and peas or carrots like that. they love the bread and the bread has never killed a duck. okay. there you go. ducks are the most beautiful animals in the world. you look at colour of a duck. at the colour design of a duck. you know, and a beautiful feathers they have and all that. we've got cherish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks cherish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks willierish. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will onlyi. our ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will only eatir ducks feathers they have and all that. we'iducks will only eat soggyzs and ducks will only eat soggy white bread. all right, well, toot,— white bread. all right, well, look, producer— white bread. all right, well, look, producer greg,- i all right, well, look, producer greg, can you get the look, producer greg, can you get tue-respouse- look, producer greg, can you get the-response from - the definitive response from vets— the definitive response from vets as— the definitive response from vets as to— the definitive response from vets as to whether or not we suoutt — vets as to whether or not we should-feeding- vets as to whether or not we i should .feeding-white should be feeding ducks, white treat— should be feeding ducks, white treat a— should be feeding ducks, white treat a tast— should be feeding ducks, white bread ? last but— should be feeding ducks, white bread ? last but not least, bread? last but not least, smoerst— bread? last but not least, smokers gain— bread? last but not least, smokers gain the equivalent of an smokers gain the equivalent of au extra— smokers gain the equivalent of an extra week's— smokers gain the equivalent of an extra week's holiday every year— an extra week's holiday every year trom — an extra week's holiday every year from stepping outside for a treat. — year from stepping outside for a treat. a— year from stepping outside for a treat. a ue— year from stepping outside for a break. a new study shows this tate— break. a new study shows this take as— break. a new study shows this can take as much— break. a new study shows this can take as much as 20 minutes out ot— can take as much as 20 minutes out ot some— can take as much as 20 minutes out of some people's working day,— out of some people's working day vvutcu— out of some people's working day, which adds— out of some people's working day, which adds up to 39 hours a year.— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so gtveu— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so given that— day, which adds up to 39 hours a year. so given that they sneak out tor— year. so given that they sneak out tor so— year. so given that they sneak out for so many— year. so given that they sneak out for so many ciggies, should smoerst— out for so many ciggies, should sruokers te— out for so many ciggies, should smokers be forced— out for so many ciggies, should smokers be forced to work over am..— smokers be forced to work over ttmee usa— smokers be forced to work over ttmee ttsa uo— smokers be forced to work over time? lisa no ,_ smokers be forced to work over time? lisa no , no.

time? lisa no, no. let's let's uot— time? lisa no, no. let's let's not we're not people that want to dictate and tell everybody what the rules. but, you know, tuey-ve— what the rules. but, you know, tuey-ve got— what the rules. but, you know, they've got they've— what the rules. but, you know, they've got they've got- but, you know, they've got they've got to tuey-ve — they've got they've got to tuey-ve got— they've got they've got to they've got to _ they've got they've got to they've got to leave the office. tuey-ve— they've got to leave the office. tuey-ve got— they've got to leave the office. tuey-ve got to— they've got to leave the office. they've got to get— they've got to leave the office. they've got to get in the lift. kouve— they've got to get in the lift. vouve got— they've got to get in the lift. youve got to— they've got to get in the lift. you've got to get— they've got to get in the lift. you've got to get outside. tuey-ve— you've got to get outside. tuey-ve got— you've got to get outside. tuey-ve got to— you've got to get outside. they've got to light up. that's rtgut. — they've got to light up. that's rtgut-rttuat. - they've got to light up. that's right. -ritual. well,- they've got to light up. that's right. ritual. �*thjti;.. right. it's a ritual. well, i ueet— right. it's a ritual. well, i used . litter _ right. it's a ritual. well, i used litter the pavement with used to litter the pavement with filthy. well you know, cigarette butts. disgusting. to butts. disgusting. i used to i ueet— butts. disgusting. i used to i used—actually. butts. disgusting. i used to i. used—actually have used to i used to actually have a reat— used to i used to actually have a reat tot.— used to i used to actually have a reat tot-to— used to i used to actually have a real job.-to-in. a real job. i used to work in a tactory— a real job. i used to work in a tactory-maktug- a real job. i used to work in a factory making tights. yes. factory and making tights. yes. aut— factory and making tights. yes. tut—pretty- factory and making tights. yes. and—pretty polly. . and everybody. pretty polly. yes:— and everybody. pretty polly. vee—ts- and everybody. pretty polly. vee—ts tuat- yes, pretty polly. is that your utckuamee— yes, pretty polly. is that your nickname?-that- yes, pretty polly. is that your nickname? that well yes, pretty polly. is that your- nickname?-that-well we nickname? no, that was. well we uovve-— nickname? no, that was. well we now-we no longer- nickname? no, that was. well we now we no longer make now know we no longer make ttguts— now know we no longer make ttguts tu— now know we no longer make ttguts tu tute— now know we no longer make tights in this country. it's gutte— tights in this country. it's gutte-reatty- tights in this country. it's quite-really .- tights in this country. it's quite really . yeah. no more quite sad, really. yeah. no more tactortee— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but the— quite sad, really. yeah. no more factories. but the girls, everytoty— factories. but the girls, everybody there get everybody there could get a treak. — everybody there could get a break. ididn't_ everybody there could get a break. didn't smoke , but i break. i didn't smoke, but i ueet— break. i didn't smoke, but i uset to— break. i didn't smoke, but i uset to go— break. i didn't smoke, but i used to go anyway because that's vvuere— used to go anyway because that's vvuere tue— used to go anyway because that's where the best— used to go anyway because that's where the best gossip was . where the best gossip was. mat-s— where the best gossip was. tuat-s vvttu— where the best gossip was. that's with the _ where the best gossip was. that's with the office gossip comtug— that's with the office gossip comtug trom. — that's with the office gossip coming from. if— that's with the office gossip coming from. if you don't have the coming from. if you don't have tue teak— coming from. if you don't have tue treak, tt— coming from. if you don't have the break, if you,— coming from. if you don't have the break, if you, if you have a ctgarette— the break, if you, if you have a cigarette break. _ the break, if you, if you have a cigarette break. q."ji”€t ptii; cigarette break. others are having a cigarette break and you don't smoke. you should be allowed a coffee break. allowed to have a coffee break. well, right . well, that's exactly right. mat— well, that's exactly right. that-should- well, that's exactly right. that-should be- well, that's exactly right. i that-should be allowed that you should be allowed because if you're not having a cigarette, what would you be doing just work. i doing then? i'd just work. i preter— doing then? i'd just work. i preter work— doing then? i'd just work. i prefer work-having- titit “tg .’“ti;“7 i'd just work. i prefer work having a titit “g “i“7 i'd just work. i prefer work having a coffee prefer work to having a coffee treak. — prefer work to having a coffee break. -about_ prefer work to having a coffee break. about cigarette? break. what about a cigarette? a break. what about a cigarette? k-at— break. what about a cigarette?

k-at-tocat— break. what about a cigarette? a-at-local around- break. what about a cigarette? a-at-local around thei a lager at the local around the corner? no, more two and corner? no, more like two and a tatt— corner? no, more like two and a uatt ptuts— corner? no, more like two and a uatt ptuts tu— corner? no, more like two and a half pints in five— i ”7 no, more like two and a half pints in five minutes. the gosstp— half pints in five minutes. the gosstp. tut— half pints in five minutes. the gosstp. tut au— half pints in five minutes. the gossip. but can i— half pints in five minutes. the gossip. but can i also these gossip. but can i also say these peopte— gossip. but can i also say these pebble going— gossip. but can i also say these pebble going out_ gossip. but can i also say these people going out smoking their ctgarettes— people going out smoking their ctgarare s— people going out smoking their ctgarare a— people going out smoking their cigarare a less— people going out smoking their cigarare a less productive they are a less productive vvorerk— they are a less productive vvorerk .— they are a less productive worker . yeah.— they are a less productive worker . yeah. because every. worker. yeah. because every. vee — worker. yeah. because every. vee t— worker. yeah. because every. vee t to. — worker. yeah. because every. vee t to. every— worker. yeah. because every. yes. i do. every cigarette they take— yes. i do. every cigarette they take me— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this .— yes. i do. every cigarette they take like this . they are firing take like this. they are firing up tuetr— take like this. they are firing up their arteries.— take like this. they are firing up their arteries. they therefore _ up their arteries. they therefore cannot be as productive _ therefore cannot be as productive a - therefore cannot be as productive a human being as sometoty— productive a human being as somebody like— productive a human being as somebody like me who does not oke — somebody like me who does not oke uototy— somebody like me who does not smoke. nobody is— somebody like me who does not smoke. nobody is more productive tuau— smoke. nobody is more productive tuau turke— smoke. nobody is more productive tuau tttke tarry. — smoke. nobody is more productive than mike parry. ' i smoke. nobody is more productive than mike parry. ' “ti i than mike parry. and he's back at ten. reacting to my take at ten, it's all about phillip schofield. i'm sorry, folks, i don't buy his crocodile tears. you won't want to miss my first comments since his television interview and sun chat. but comments since his television interview and sun chat . but next interview and sun chat. but next up, my mark meets guest is a man who done everything in who has done everything in broadcasting on radio tv broadcasting on radio and tv legend mike reid . of legend mike reid. top of the pops, radio you name it. pops, radio one, you name it. he's .

next i'll be dealing with phillip

schofield in literally 12 minutes time in my take at ten, you won't want to miss it. but look, a big reaction to our discussion about should you feed ducks bread in the park? well well done director jonathan, who's done some research on well done director jonathan, who'stheie some research on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspcae research on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspca sayiearch on well done director jonathan, who'sthe rspca say although this? the rspca say although ducks, geese and swans are able to digest bread , it can leave to digest bread, it can leave them feeling full without them having gained the nutri science, vitamins and minerals. they need from their natural food. they recommend peas, sweet corn , oats recommend peas, sweet corn, oats and bird seed . there you go. and bird seed. there you go. it's time now for mark meets, in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of politics. showbiz sport, business and beyond. tonight met a man who has done .just about everythin g has done .just about everything in broadcasting radio and tv legend mike reid, host of top of the pops. and saturday superstore. but a man who made his name at radio luxembourg before joining radio one and ultimately becoming king of breakfast, where he entertained an audience of millions for five years after that capital gold

classic fm magic . this is a guy classic fm magic. this is a guy with radio in his dna. he's put on musicals, recorded pop records , and even written records, and even written a chart topping hit for cliff richard . plus, he entertained richard. plus, he entertained scores of itv viewers with a memorable stint in the jungle on i'm a celebrity. mike reid, welcome to mark dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark. how are thank you very much, mark. how you— thank you very much, mark. how you totuge — thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? i'm— thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? ttifg thank you very much, mark. how are you doing? trig. are you doing? i'm very well. great to have you on the show. what a career. how did you get into broadcasting ? i got in into broadcasting? i got in there's a into broadcasting? i got in meets a guy— into broadcasting? i got in there's a guy on- into broadcasting? i got in there's a guy on local- ii “tg7’ i got in there's a guy on local radio who is there's a guy on local radio who ts ruuutug— there's a guy on local radio who ts ruuutug tt— there's a guy on local radio who is running it called— there's a guy on local radio who is running it called neil ttreucu— is running it called neil ffrench blake. and neil called me tu— ffrench blake. and neil called me tu day.— ffrench blake. and neil called me in one day. i'd— ffrench blake. and neil called me in one day. i'd played in a tee— me in one day. i'd played in a tevv crtcket— me in one day. i'd played in a few cricket matches and he'd teeu— few cricket matches and he'd teeu tuere— few cricket matches and he'd been there and— few cricket matches and he'd been there and he said, i want you— been there and he said, i want you ou— been there and he said, i want you ou my— been there and he said, i want you on my station— been there and he said, i want you on my station for three reasons. he said, one, you're terrttty— reasons. he said, one, you're terribly english.— reasons. he said, one, you're terribly english. he said, two, youe— terribly english. he said, two, you-e mtttty— terribly english. he said, two, you're mildly eccentric and tree— you're mildly eccentric and tree youe— you're mildly eccentric and three, you're a— you're mildly eccentric and three, you're a good opening tovvter— three, you're a good opening tovvter .— three, you're a good opening tovvter . aut— three, you're a good opening bowler . and i— three, you're a good opening bowler . and i said, what's the bowler. and i said, what's the tast— bowler. and i said, what's the tast oue— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got to— bowler. and i said, what's the last one? got to do with he last one? got to do with it? he sata— last one? got to do with it? he sattlstarttug— last one? got to do with it? he said, starting cricket said, i'm starting a cricket team—opeutugl said, i'm starting a cricket. team _opening the team and you're opening the tovvttug— team and you're opening the bowling.isaid,_ team and you're opening the bowling. said, not want bowling. i said, do you not want to-me—

bowling. i said, do you not want to-me broadcast?- bowling. i said, do you not want to me broadcast? he said, to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll to hear me broadcast? he said, t-tt te— to hear me broadcast? he said, t-tt te true.— to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll be fine. and— to hear me broadcast? he said, i'll be fine. and that was it. i u so— i'll be fine. and that was it. i was in. so when— i'll be fine. and that was it. i was in. so when people ask how you— was in. so when people ask how you-ratio— was in. so when people ask how you-radio,lthink- you get into radio, i think everytoty— you get into radio, i think. everybody—totally everybody gets it in a totally ttttereut— everybody gets it in a totally different way. _ everybody gets it in a totally different way. you know ? ' “ti different way. you know? and for ot— different way. you know? and for at my— different way. you know? and for some of my younger viewers , can some of my younger viewers, can you them a sense of how you give them a sense of how massive top of the pops was ? massive top of the pops was? yeah, all those programmes were big, but don't forget, there were only four channels then. i mean, are now hundreds of mean, there are now hundreds of cuauuete— mean, there are now hundreds of cuauuete-ratto- channels, loads of radio stattoue — channels, loads of radio stations. but— channels, loads of radio stations. but then there were tour. — stations. but then there were tour. to — stations. but then there were four. so saturday— stations. but then there were four. so saturday morning , four. so saturday morning, saturtay— four. so saturday morning, saturday superstore, we regutarty— saturday superstore, we regutarty got— saturday superstore, we regularly got million pop regularly got 10 million pop q...— regularly got 10 million pop gutz—utgutl regularly got 10 million pop| gutz—utgut vve regularly got 10 million pop- gutz—utgut we got quiz on a saturday night we got 10 quiz on a saturday night we got to mttttou— quiz on a saturday night we got to mttttou top— quiz on a saturday night we got 10 million top of— quiz on a saturday night we got 10 million top of the pops to get— 10 million top of the pops to get tt— 10 million top of the pops to get to or— 10 million top of the pops to get at or to— 10 million top of the pops to get 15 or 16 million. i think tuere— get 15 or 16 million. i think tuere wee— get 15 or 16 million. i think there were only— get 15 or 16 million. i think there were only one breakfast stow.— there were only one breakfast suovv. cot— there were only one breakfast suovv. cot-tt- there were only one breakfast show. got 14 million. so show. got about 14 million. so tuey— show. got about 14 million. so tuey uee— show. got about 14 million. so tuey ttg— show. got about 14 million. so they were big, but— show. got about 14 million. so they were big, but there wasn't the competition there is now. so it the competition there is now. so tt-tttute— the competition there is now. so tt-tttute .— the competition there is now. so tt-tttute . aut- the competition there is now. so it-dilute . and so- the competition there is now. so it dilute . and so that it wasn't as dilute. and so that was one reason. _ it wasn't as dilute. and so that was one reason. then you protatty— was one reason. then you probably 90l— was one reason. then you probably got those figures, but it probably got those figures, but tt vvas— probably got those figures, but tt tt— probably got those figures, but tt tt uas— probably got those figures, but it was it was just— probably got those figures, but it was it was just fun to do. vou— it was it was just fun to do. you kuovv— it was it was just fun to do. you know, mark— it was it was just fun to do. you know, mark i really thought at-ttme— you know, mark i really thought at-ttme-tust- you know, mark i really thought at time just having at the time i was just having a good— at the time i was just having a good ttme.— at the time i was just having a goot ttme. tut— at the time i was just having a good time. but it— at the time i was just having a good time. but it turns out i teamed— good time. but it turns out i learned stuff— good time. but it turns out i learned stuff later , only learned stuff later, only i reattset— learned stuff later, only i realised that— learned stuff later, only i realised that i— learned stuff later, only i realised that i was i was actuatty— realised that i was i was actually did— realised that i was i was actually did learn things. you kuovv— actually did learn things. you p... you— actually did learn things. you know, you learn— actually did learn things. you know, you learn about the tegattttes— know, you learn about the legalities of— know, you learn about the legalities of things, you legalities of things, what you caul— legalities of things, what you caul vvuat— legalities of things, what you caul vvuat you- legalities of things, what you can , what you can't say, to

can say, what you can't say, to uovv— can say, what you can't say, to tow-peopte,— can say, what you can't say, to how-peopte, uovv- can say, what you can't say, to how people, how to deal can say, what you can't say, to how people jople, how to deal can say, what you can't say, to how people youe, how to deal can say, what you can't say, to how people you know, to deal can say, what you can't say, to how people you know, howeal can say, what you can't say, to how people you know, how to how with people you know, how to how to uave— with people you know, how to how to uave a— with people you know, how to how to uave a good— with people you know, how to how to have a good time,— with people you know, how to how to have a good time, how to be a team— to have a good time, how to be a team ememt— to have a good time, how to be a team member. certainly on tv. vou— team member. certainly on tv. you—wett- team member. certainly on tv. you—wet as- you know this as well as auytoty— you know this as well asi auytoty—tue you know this as well as- anybody._the front anybody. you may be the front man:— anybody. you may be the front maultuere-s— anybody. you may be the front man,-there's a— anybody. you may be the front man, there's a whole lot of man, but there's a whole lot of peopte— man, but there's a whole lot of peopte-you— man, but there's a whole lot of people you making it people behind you making it work.— people behind you making it work tt-s— people behind you making it work. it's not— people behind you making it work. it's not just you. you ettuer— work. it's not just you. you either-know,- work. it's not just you. you either-know, thei either get, you know, the trtcktats— either get, you know, the brickbats or— either get, you know, the brickbats or the bouquets. wuatever-s— brickbats or the bouquets. whatever's your brickbats or the bouquets. whatever's-your but whatever's coming your way. but it's whatever's coming your way. but is tue— whatever's coming your way. but is tue vvuote— whatever's coming your way. but it's the whole team _ whatever's coming your way. but it's the whole team you're it's the whole team and you're rust— it's the whole team and you're rust-ot— it's the whole team and you're rust-ot tue— it's the whole team and you're just of the iceberg, just the tip of the iceberg, took _ just the tip of the iceberg, too. rtgute — just the tip of the iceberg, too, right? and- just the tip of the iceberg, too, right? ' “ti ti.tit.. just the tip of the iceberg,- too, right? and of course , when too, right? and of course, when you at radio one, that you were at radio one, that was a golden for the network. a golden era for the network. you were king breakfast a golden era for the network. you iane king breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army king breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army ofig breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans breakfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans and kfast a golden era for the network. you ian army of fans and the .t with an army of fans and the likes of yourself and simon bates and all of those legends. you know, you were the rock stars of your era . do you think stars of your era. do you think radio is still the art form it once was? mike uh , i think it's once was? mike uh, i think it's more straitjacketed now . and i more straitjacketed now. and i listened to it. i hear- ii and i listened to it. i hear people tuat— listened to it. i hear people tuat tout— listened to it. i hear people that don't have— listened to it. i hear people that don't have a say. one of tue— that don't have a say. one of tue great— that don't have a say. one of the great things— that don't have a say. one of the great things was that you , the great things was that you, you— the great things was that you, you ptck— the great things was that you, you ptck tue— the great things was that you, you pick the music and. and i stit— you pick the music and. and i stttt to— you pick the music and. and i still do breakfast— you pick the music and. and i still do breakfast of various stove— still do breakfast of various stove-tu— still do breakfast of various shows-in the- still do breakfast of various shows-in the uk- still do breakfast of various shows in the uk and canada. shows now in the uk and canada. but shows now in the uk and canada. tut t-m— shows now in the uk and canada. tut t-m tucky— shows now in the uk and canada. tut t-m tucky t— shows now in the uk and canada. but i'm lucky i get— shows now in the uk and canada. but i'm lucky i get to pick the mustc— but i'm lucky i get to pick the aut— but i'm lucky i get to pick the aut tt— but i'm lucky i get to pick the music and if you've got ears. sometoty—

music and if you've got ears. somebody said— music and if you've got ears. somebody said to me recently, youe— somebody said to me recently, you-e au tott— somebody said to me recently, you're an a&r man , you're you're an a&r man, you're a ecort— you're an a&r man, you're a rcreot compauy— you're an a&r man, you're a record company, as well as being on-you're listening- on the radio, you're listening to mustc— on the radio, you're listening to .— on the radio, you're listening to music . you— on the radio, you're listening to music . you know, three years to music. you know, three years ago— to music. you know, three years ago|createt— to music. you know, three years ago icreated the _ to music. you know, three years ago created the heritage chart ago i created the heritage chart tecaue— ago i created the heritage chart tecauea— tot- because there were a lot of uerttage— because there were a lot of heritage artists— because there were a lot of heritage artists still making great— heritage artists still making great-weren't- heritage artists still making great weren't being great music, weren't being toucuet— great music, weren't being touched-major- great music, weren't being touched major stations . touched by the major stations. aut— touched by the major stations. tut tuey— touched by the major stations. out tuey sata— touched by the major stations. and they said, you know, the utck— and they said, you know, the utck-suovvs- and they said, you know, the nick - shows the - and they said, you know, the nick shows the paul nick hewer shows the paul vouuge— nick hewer shows the paul vouuge tue— nick hewer shows the paul youngs, the kim wills, the howard— youngs, the kim wills, the howard jones. _ youngs, the kim wills, the howard jones. well, what do we toe—goe— howard jones. well, what do we toe—got so- howard jones. well, what do we do?_go? so three. do.7 what do we go.7 so three years— do? what do we go? so three years-anniversary. do? what do we go? so three years anniversary is years ago, the anniversary is coming— years ago, the anniversary is coming-july. - years ago, the anniversary is coming-july. .- years ago, the anniversary is coming july. i started the coming up in july. i started the heritage— coming up in july. i started the heritage chart— coming up in july. i started the heritage chart and we're on the eem— heritage chart and we're on the eem-this— heritage chart and we're on the 66th-this week- heritage chart and we're on the 66th-this week as- heritage chart and we're on the 66th this week as well . so 66th show this week as well. so that-s— 66th show this week as well. so that-s what— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one it's— 66th show this week as well. so that's what one it's been a good shot— that's what one it's been a good shot window— that's what one it's been a good shot window .those - that's what one it's been a good shot window those artists. shot window for those artists. so shot window for those artists. so yeah— shot window for those artists. so yeah .— shot window for those artists. so yeah , vve— shot window for those artists. so yeah , i've always liked to be so yeah, i've always liked to be hvahea— so yeah, i've always liked to be hvahea aha— so yeah, i've always liked to be involved and i— so yeah, i've always liked to be involved and i think lot of involved and i think a lot of radio— involved and i think a lot of radio haw— involved and i think a lot of radio now,-can't- involved and i think a lot of radio now, can't be involved radio now, you can't be involved -_vou_ radio now, you can't be involved .—yaa gea- . they don't let you get hvahea— . they don't let you get involved you're is . they don't let you get- involvediyou're-is what involved. you're this is what playing— involved. you're this is what phayhg .— involved. you're this is what we're playing , this is what we're playing, this is what wee-ahe- we're playing, this is whati we're-this-we we're playing, this is what- we're-this-we do we're doing, this is how we do it. we're doing, this is how we do h. aha— we're doing, this is how we do h. aha h— we're doing, this is how we do it. and i think— we're doing, this is how we do it. and i think that would haehaae— it. and i think that would frustrate me— it. and i think that would frustrate me enormously. see the heritage— frustrate me enormously. see the heritage-a— frustrate me enormously. see the heritage a fabulous, heritage chart is a fabulous, fabulous legacy of yours, and it can found at heritage chart. can be found at heritage chart. .co.uk highly recommend . ed, .co.uk highly recommend. ed, let's talk about the current world of radio. what do you make of ken bruce leaving radio two

after all those years? i have it, mike on good authority that he wasn't really offered a new contract i wouldn't know. so i really can't comment. ff : " c so i really can't comment. you know, we aah— really can't comment. you know, we only comment— really can't comment. you know, we only comment on stuff we see on we only comment on stuff we see an eaehah— we only comment on stuff we see an eaehah media— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or in— we only comment on stuff we see on social media or in the media. so on social media or in the media. so h— on social media or in the media. so h really— on social media or in the media. so i really don't— on social media or in the media. so i really don't know. ken's aways— so i really don't know. ken's ahwaye heeh— so i really don't know. ken's always been a— so i really don't know. ken's always been a great broadcaster . hee— always been a great broadcaster . he-e aahe— always been a great broadcaster . he-e done a— always been a great broadcaster . he's done a great— always been a great broadcaster . he's done a great job at radio two:— . he's done a great job at radio two, sometimes— . he's done a great job at radio two, sometimes it's, oh, there he he. — two, sometimes it's, oh, there he he. leah— two, sometimes it's, oh, there he is. look, some— two, sometimes it's, oh, there he is. look, some times you knew,— he is. look, some times you knew, he— he is. look, some times you know, it's time— he is. look, some times you know, it's time to- he is. look, some times you know, it's time to move on. it's time— know, it's time to move on. it's time he— know, it's time to move on. it's time he 90— know, it's time to move on. it's time to go somewhere else. you hhe— time to go somewhere else. you hhe-hhe— time to go somewhere else. you hhe-hhe a— time to go somewhere else. you like like a footballer , like anyone, like a footballer, vou— like anyone, like a footballer, you knew,— like anyone, like a footballer, you knew, you— like anyone, like a footballer, you know, you think, oh, you knew— you know, you think, oh, you knew .— you know, you think, oh, you knew , mayhe— you know, you think, oh, you know , maybe -to l you know, you think, oh, you. know , maybe -to move know, maybe it's time to move on.-move on before- know, maybe it's time to move on. move on before you're on. do you move on before you're hushed— on. do you move on before you're pushed a— on. do you move on before you're pushed or whatever? i don't know.— pushed or whatever? i don't knew-hat— pushed or whatever? i don't know.-but he's- pushed or whatever? i don't know. but he's found know. i mean, but he's found a new—he— know. i mean, but he's found a new—he eaahae- know. i mean, but he's found a new he sounds quite new home and he sounds quite happy— new home and he sounds quite happy-so— new home and he sounds quite happy-50 that's- new home and he sounds quite happy so that's always happy on it. so that's always good. — happy on it. so that's always good. he— happy on it. so that's always good. it's when _ happy on it. so that's always good. it's when you're not doing what— good. it's when you're not doing what you— good. it's when you're not doing whah you have.— good. it's when you're not doing what you love. one— good. it's when you're not doing what you love. one one thing i ah— what you love. one one thing i ah ae— what you love. one one thing i ah he heehhe— what you love. one one thing i talk to people about in radio aha— talk to people about in radio and they— talk to people about in radio and they say— talk to people about in radio and they say it's— talk to people about in radio and they say it's we're doing a job-— and they say it's we're doing a job- we— and they say it's we're doing a job- we have— and they say it's we're doing a job- we have h— and they say it's we're doing a job. we love in a— and they say it's we're doing a job. we love in a way that we aah-a— job. we love in a way that we aah-a .— job. we love in a way that we aah-a , aha— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that is— job. we love in a way that we don't , and that is frustrating. don't, and that is frustrating. i don't, and that is frustrating. h ahhh— don't, and that is frustrating. h ahhh ha— don't, and that is frustrating. i think i'd never— don't, and that is frustrating. i think i'd never really want to do i think i'd never really want to he that. — i think i'd never really want to he that. heu— i think i'd never really want to do that. tell me— i think i'd never really want to do that. tell me about your haaeea— do that. tell me about your latest project,— do that. tell me about your latest project, a— do that. tell me about your latest project, a brand new book out latest project, a brand new book eat h— latest project, a brand new book aah h july— latest project, a brand new book aah h july .— latest project, a brand new book out in july . yeah,— latest project, a brand new book out in july . yeah, it's a series out in july. yeah, it's a series of hooke— out in july. yeah, it's a series of haahe. rh—

out in july. yeah, it's a series of books. i'm doing six books on aahaaeaha— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years of— of books. i'm doing six books on a thousand years of a london sheet— a thousand years of a london etteet .— a thousand years of a london etteet . .— a thousand years of a london etteet . . hat— a thousand years of a london street . i had denmark street out street. i had denmark street out .that,— street. i had denmark street out .that, a— street. i had denmark street out .that, a matte— street. i had denmark street out , what, a couple of— street. i had denmark street out , what, a couple of years ago, cheahette— , what, a couple of years ago, cheapside comes— , what, a couple of years ago, cheapside comes out. that's it is cheapside comes out. that's it he a— cheapside comes out. that's it is a thousand— cheapside comes out. that's it is a thousand years of cheapside wtth— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a tat— is a thousand years of cheapside wtth a tat at— is a thousand years of cheapside with a lot of characters who are in with a lot of characters who are th tt— with a lot of characters who are in it, including— with a lot of characters who are in it, including two— in it, including two broadcasters. we can see in it, including two— broadcasters. we can see there. so broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah that-e— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah, that's out— broadcasters. we can see there. so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand— so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand years— so yeah, that's out in july. a thousand years of cheapside . and thousand years of cheapside. and then— thousand years of cheapside. and then the— thousand years of cheapside. and then the heat— thousand years of cheapside. and then the next one— thousand years of cheapside. and then the next one is a thousand years— then the next one is a thousand yeate at— then the next one is a thousand years of piccadilly— then the next one is a thousand years of piccadilly . it's great years of piccadilly. it's great tan— years of piccadilly. it's great tea to— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta .— years of piccadilly. it's great tea ta ta . .— years of piccadilly. it's great fun to do . i love— years of piccadilly. it's great fun to do . i love it. i've fun to do. i love it. i've atwaye— fun to do. i love it. i've always been— fun to do. i love it. i've always been a- fun to do. i love it. i've always been a historian. i've teen— always been a historian. i've been ah— always been a historian. i've been on archaeological digs shee— been on archaeological digs .— been on archaeological digs . wa— been on archaeological digs since i was eight, seven, eight years— since i was eight, seven, eight yeate att. — since i was eight, seven, eight yeate att. uh,— since i was eight, seven, eight years old. um, so— since i was eight, seven, eight years old. um, so i've always teae— years old. um, so i've always tone that.— years old. um, so i've always done that. i've— years old. um, so i've always done that. i've always been on stage— done that. i've always been on stage she— done that. i've always been on stage since eight— done that. i've always been on stage since eight as well, which aaah— stage since eight as well, which agath ghee— stage since eight as well, which agath ghee yaw— stage since eight as well, which agath ghee yet a— stage since eight as well, which again gives you a good doing archaeological— again gives you a good doing archaeological digs. being on stage— archaeological digs. being on etage ghee— archaeological digs. being on etage ghee yew— archaeological digs. being on stage gives you a good sort of at— stage gives you a good sort of sense of playing— stage gives you a good sort of sense of playing in a team and a bit sense of playing in a team and a htt at— sense of playing in a team and a bit of confidence— sense of playing in a team and a bit of confidence and a bit of thewtetae— bit of confidence and a bit of thewtetge ae— bit of confidence and a bit of knowledge as well. but no, i tave— knowledge as well. but no, i have tethe— knowledge as well. but no, i love doing these— knowledge as well. but no, i love doing these books. it's great.— love doing these books. it's great. whe— love doing these books. it's great. mike is— love doing these books. it's great. mike is thrilled to have you— great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew.— great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew. — great. mike is thrilled to have yaw-shew. twe- great. mike is thrilled to have you show. " you on the show. i've been listening you and watching listening to you and watching you and you listening to you and watching you still and you listening to you and watching you still the and you listening to you and watching you still the gold and you listening to you and watching you still the gold standard.you are still the gold standard. thanks joining mark thanks for joining us on mark dolan tonight. thank you very much— dolan tonight. thank you very much watt.— dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark-you- dolan tonight. thank you very much, mark.-you . - dolan tonight. thank you very. much, mark.-you . there dolan tonight. thank you very- much, mark.-you . there you much, mark. thank you. there you go. much, mark. thank you. there you 90- whe— much, mark. thank you. there you go. mike reads. i you what, go. mike reads. i tell you what, what list we've had

what a cast list we've had tonight. excited the tonight. very excited about the next hour because kim woodburn joins us live. let's talk about holly willoughby. is it right that she's going back to this morning? we're told she'll be on set on monday. is that the right thing to do? do you believe that she knew nothing? i'll be asking kim that. but at kim woodburn about that. but at 10:00, the long awaited 10:00, it's the long awaited take at ten in which i'll be deaung take at ten in which i'll be dealing with phillip schofield following his bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i don't buy his crocodile tears , is my reaction crocodile tears, is my reaction in just a couple of minutes. first, the headlines .

it's 10:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my

take at ten, following his bombshell interview with the sun newspaper and the bbc. i'm not buying phillip schofield's crocodile tears. tonight's newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn, who'll be dropping some more truth bombs about the schofield saga, particularly how much holly willoughby may or may not have known . and mark dolan tonight is known. and mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp . exactly 1030 sharp. plus, my top pundits as well who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. but my schofield monologue is in coming . put but my schofield monologue is in coming. put your but my schofield monologue is in coming . put your hats on, folks. coming. put your hats on, folks. it's going to be a lively ride, a busy hour to come. first, the headunes a busy hour to come. first, the headlines with bethany elsey .

headlines with bethany elsey. mark, thank you. here's your top stores— mark, thank you. here's your top etattee hath — mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the— mark, thank you. here's your top stories from the gb— here's your top stories from the gb news room. hatte— stories from the gb news room. hath yehheah— stories from the gb news room. boris johnson says— stories from the gb news room. boris johnson says he sent all whtetaetet— boris johnson says he sent all unredacted whatsapp messages ttteetty— unredacted whatsapp messages ttteetty ta — unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the— unredacted whatsapp messages directly to the covid inquiry , directly to the covid inquiry, hyhaeehg— directly to the covid inquiry, hyhaeehg the— directly to the covid inquiry, bypassing the cabinet office . bypassing the cabinet office. the — bypassing the cabinet office. the tether— bypassing the cabinet office. the former prime minister told the hawtty— the former prime minister told the inquiry chair— the former prime minister told the inquiry chair he would like to the inquiry chair he would like ta ta— the inquiry chair he would like ta to the— the inquiry chair he would like to do the same— the inquiry chair he would like to do the same with messages on an to do the same with messages on ah-hhehe.— to do the same with messages on ah-hhehe. he— to do the same with messages on an-phone. he used- to do the same with messages on an phone. he used before may an old phone. he used before may m.— an old phone. he used before may zozt. hat— an old phone. he used before may zozt. hat tt-e— an old phone. he used before may 2021. but it's locked— an old phone. he used before may 2021. but it's locked due to eeewtty— 2021. but it's locked due to security concerns. it's after the— security concerns. it's after the hawtty— security concerns. it's after the inquiry announced it's bringing— the inquiry announced it's htthghg a— the inquiry announced it's bringing a legal challenge aaahet— bringing a legal challenge agahet the— bringing a legal challenge against the cabinet office after it against the cabinet office after tt hteeet— against the cabinet office after it missed yesterday's deadline to hatt— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all— it missed yesterday's deadline to hand over all mrjohnson's heeeaeee aha— to hand over all mrjohnson's messages and diaries . at least messages and diaries. at least 80 messages and diaries. at least so heathe— messages and diaries. at least so peopte have— messages and diaries. at least 80 people have now been killed and eso— 80 people have now been killed and 850 injured— 80 people have now been killed and 850 injured after two haeeeheet— and 850 injured after two passenger trains collided in theta.— passenger trains collided in htta. the— passenger trains collided in india. the coromandel express, whteh— india. the coromandel express, whteh whe— india. the coromandel express, which runs from _ india. the coromandel express, which runs from calcutta to chehhah— which runs from calcutta to chennai, crashed into the howrah satettaet— chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express— chennai, crashed into the howrah superfast express in the eastern state— superfast express in the eastern state at— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha .— superfast express in the eastern state of odisha . videos show state of odisha. videos show heathe— state of odisha. videos show people climbing— state of odisha. videos show people climbing over the toppled eawtaeea— people climbing over the toppled eawtaeea ae— people climbing over the toppled carriages as the _ people climbing over the toppled carriages as the injured were cathet— carriages as the injured were eatttet ta— carriages as the injured were carried to ambulances . officials

carried to ambulances. officials say the— carried to ambulances. officials say the wheat— carried to ambulances. officials say the number of— carried to ambulances. officials say the number of fatality is expected— say the number of fatality is expected to — say the number of fatality is expected to rise— say the number of fatality is expected to rise .— say the number of fatality is expected to rise . phillip expected to rise. phillip schofield— expected to rise. phillip schofield says he believes the outrage— schofield says he believes the outrage over— schofield says he believes the outrage over his— schofield says he believes the outrage over his affair with a younger— outrage over his affair with a younger hate— outrage over his affair with a younger male colleague has been twettet— younger male colleague has been twettet hy— younger male colleague has been fuelled by homophobia. the tether— fuelled by homophobia. the former this— fuelled by homophobia. the former this morning host says he teete— former this morning host says he feels ashamed— former this morning host says he feels ashamed and— former this morning host says he feels ashamed and that he's teehetatety— feels ashamed and that he's desperately sorry about the attah— desperately sorry about the attah hat— desperately sorry about the affair, but insists the relationship was consensual and that— relationship was consensual and that he— relationship was consensual and that he that— relationship was consensual and that he didn't groom him in an htewtew— that he didn't groom him in an interview with— that he didn't groom him in an interview with the— that he didn't groom him in an interview with the bbc, he athtttet— interview with the bbc, he admitted his— interview with the bbc, he admitted his career is now over aha— admitted his career is now over and that— admitted his career is now over and that het— admitted his career is now over and that he'd lost— admitted his career is now over and that he'd lost everything but and that he'd lost everything hat eat— and that he'd lost everything hat eatt h— and that he'd lost everything but said if he'd— and that he'd lost everything but said if he'd had an affair wtth— but said if he'd had an affair wtth a— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman ,_ but said if he'd had an affair with a woman , it— but said if he'd had an affair with a woman , it wouldn't have with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh— with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh each— with a woman, it wouldn't have heeh each a— with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big— with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big scandal. with a woman, it wouldn't have been such a big scandal . a 19 been such a big scandal. a 19 year— been such a big scandal. a 19 yeat att— been such a big scandal. a 19 year ett hae— been such a big scandal. a 19 year old has been— been such a big scandal. a 19 year old has been sentenced to the— year old has been sentenced to the h— year old has been sentenced to the th when— year old has been sentenced to life in prison with— year old has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum teth— life in prison with a minimum team at— life in prison with a minimum team at eh— life in prison with a minimum term of six years— life in prison with a minimum term of six years after pleading awttty— term of six years after pleading gwttty ta— term of six years after pleading guilty to planning terror attache— guilty to planning terror attacks on— guilty to planning terror attacks on the police and httttaty— attacks on the police and httttaty .— attacks on the police and military . matthew king from military. matthew king from teet— military. matthew king from essex converted _ military. matthew king from essex converted to islam and heathe— essex converted to islam and became radicalised during the cowh— became radicalised during the covid lockdown. _ became radicalised during the covid lockdown. the judge htateet— covid lockdown. the judge htateet hh— covid lockdown. the judge praised his mother. he reported hth— praised his mother. he reported hhh ta— praised his mother. he reported hhh to the— praised his mother. he reported him to the prevent counter—terrorism programme, eayha— counter—terrorism programme, eaytha tt— counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't— counter—terrorism programme, saying it couldn't have been easy— saying it couldn't have been easy hat— saying it couldn't have been eaey hat wae— saying it couldn't have been easy but was absolutely the

ttaht— easy but was absolutely the heht ththa— easy but was absolutely the heht that to— easy but was absolutely the right thing to do . 20 people right thing to do. 20 people have— right thing to do. 20 people have hw— right thing to do. 20 people have now been— right thing to do. 20 people have now been arrested in tetattah— have now been arrested in tetattah ta— have now been arrested in relation to the— have now been arrested in relation to the riots that tattawet — relation to the riots that followed a _ relation to the riots that followed a crash in which two teehaaete— followed a crash in which two teenagers were— followed a crash in which two teenagers were killed in cath— teenagers were killed in cardiff. the _ teenagers were killed in cardiff. the deaths of kyrees swttwah— cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and _ cardiff. the deaths of kyrees sullivan and harvey evans, who te— sullivan and harvey evans, who te aha— sullivan and harvey evans, who were 16 and 15,— sullivan and harvey evans, who were 16 and 15, sparked violence aha— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and theater— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the— were 16 and 15, sparked violence and disorder on the streets of ely and disorder on the streets of tty attet— and disorder on the streets of ely after claims— and disorder on the streets of ely after claims they were hatewet— ely after claims they were hatewet hy— ely after claims they were pursued by police . cctv video pursued by police. cctv video ehawe— pursued by police. cctv video ehawe the— pursued by police. cctv video shows the boys— pursued by police. cctv video shows the boys on an e—bike tethe— shows the boys on an e—bike being followed— shows the boys on an e—bike being followed by a police van. 15 being followed by a police van. h attteete— being followed by a police van. 15 officers were _ being followed by a police van. 15 officers were injured in the hate— 15 officers were injured in the hate aha— 15 officers were injured in the riots and more— 15 officers were injured in the riots and more disruption for holidaymakers— riots and more disruption for holidaymakers this summer as eeewtty— holidaymakers this summer as security guards— holidaymakers this summer as security guards at heathrow theat— security guards at heathrow airport announce further strike aettah.— airport announce further strike aettah. uhtte— airport announce further strike action. unite the— airport announce further strike action. unite the union says its hehehte— action. unite the union says its hehehte wttt— action. unite the union says its members will stage 33 days of thtwetttat— members will stage 33 days of industrial action— members will stage 33 days of industrial action in a dispute hay— industrial action in a dispute hay .— industrial action in a dispute hay . the— industrial action in a dispute over pay . the walkouts will take over pay. the walkouts will take htaee— over pay. the walkouts will take the athaet— over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every— over pay. the walkouts will take place almost every weekend from mid-june— place almost every weekend from mid-june ta— place almost every weekend from mid—june to the— place almost every weekend from mid—june to the end of august. vat-te— mid—june to the end of august. vat-e wh— mid—june to the end of august. vat-e up to— mid—june to the end of august. you're up to date— mid—june to the end of august. you're up to date on tv online haht — you're up to date on tv online haht tatte— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio, and— you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is dab+ radio, and on tune in. this he eh— dab+ radio, and on tune in. this he eh newe— dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is gb news. now— dab+ radio, and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back to .

mark thanks, hath— thanks, bethany. that— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark thanks, bethany. welcome to mark hatah— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark hatah tantaht— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark hatah tehtaht. — thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight. this— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight. " g dolan tonight. this evening's newsmaker is the fearless tv star kim woodburn, who will be dropping more truth bombs about the phillip schofield saga . mark the phillip schofield saga. mark dolan tonight. it's the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030. plus, tonight's headline, heroes and back page zeroes with my top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. lots to get through. a big hour to come. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. let's start with this . prime it. let's start with this. prime predictably, high profile figures in the media are offering mild words of support for sex. liar phillip schofield with tv sidekick derren brown tweeting the following. he wrote

, i must be i must be morally dim . i don't see why a tv dim. i don't see why a tv presenter intimate business should lead to public persecution makes me so uncomfy . double having to ask friends why anything terrible has happened , why it warrants such happened, why it warrants such shaming , and happened, why it warrants such shaming, and why it's supposed to be endlessly my business. wow well, he must have been under hypnosis when he tweeted that one. there's also alison hammond, of whom i, by the way, a huge fan crying her eyes out about how much she still loves phil . and then there's former phil. and then there's former bbc star richard bacon, who says it's bbc star richard bacon, who says wsfime bbc star richard bacon, who says it's time to end the pylon . it's time to end the pylon. about the only celebrity that hasn't spoken out is schofield's former colleague gordon the gofer who schofield fingered for over a decade . today saw the over a decade. today saw the predictable interview with a major national newspaper in this case, the sun. surprise, surprise . as schofield made it surprise. as schofield made it all about himself. i'm broken.

i'm gutted . all about himself. i'm broken. i'm gutted. i'm all about himself. i'm broken. i'm gutted . i'm devastated. me, i'm gutted. i'm devastated. me, me , me. he said. i'll never be me, me. he said. i'll never be able to walk down the road again. i get teased at the butchers about jumping the queue because of the queens funeral . because of the queens funeral. in fact, schofield even goes as far as to say i've had a two years. have you indeed had two years. have you indeed had two years of lucrative television work? two years of commercial endorsements , award ceremonies, endorsements, award ceremonies, showbiz events, champagne and caviar . how showbiz events, champagne and caviar. how does that compare to ordinary viewers of this morning? who are still emotionally and financially punched , drunk from the punched, drunk from the pandemic, have got to deal with spiralling interest rates , spiralling interest rates, exploding rents and a cost of living crisis in which you now have to take out a loan just to buy a loaf of bread. but no, phil's had a. two years. scoffs field wonders what he's going to do next. well, i don't know. maybe count your money, phil? yes the star's media career is

likely over, and this may be an overreaction. it may be too harsh, but unlike many in this country, he won't go hungry . country, he won't go hungry. now, schofield did hint about suicidal thoughts . and of suicidal thoughts. and of course, that is a deep worry. for that, he should receive support both from family and friends and a professional in getting that support. we wish him well , but getting that support. we wish him well, but i'm not buying the sob story . i him well, but i'm not buying the sob story. i don't buy him well, but i'm not buying the sob story . i don't buy the sob story. i don't buy the crocodile tears . it's his wife crocodile tears. it's his wife and kids who he lied to so egregiously, whose tears are justified. he thinks this is even an example of homophobia. take a listen . if it was take a listen. if it was a heterosexual— c tact?" if it was a heterosexual relationship , c m“ if it was a heterosexual relationship , then heterosexual relationship, then you heterosexual relationship, then yaw thaw,— heterosexual relationship, then you knew tt— heterosexual relationship, then you know, it would have been a bit you know, it would have been a htt et— you know, it would have been a htt at hatte— you know, it would have been a bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . if bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h tt-e— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h he a— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . h he a gay— bit of nudge, nudge, wink, wink . if it's a gay relationship , . if it's a gay relationship, theh— . if it's a gay relationship, then suddenly— . if it's a gay relationship, then suddenly it raises eyebrows . tt-e— then suddenly it raises eyebrows . he want— then suddenly it raises eyebrows . tt-e twaha te— then suddenly it raises eyebrows . it's wrong. is predominantly hhh— . it's wrong. is predominantly obe homophobia really ? cc obe homophobia really? i'll be honest.— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. tt-e— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. tt-e hy— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. it's my view— obe homophobia really? i'll be honest. it's my view that if a male presenter met a 15 year old

girl and exchanged multiple messages at that time, which i think is creepy and then helped her get into tv and then had sex with her, it would be a huge story, possibly even bigger than this one. what's he on about? there was a clear power imbalance between schofield and this poor lad who we are told is now pulling pints in a northern pub.and now pulling pints in a northern pub. and given that the relationship became a full one, it's hard to see how that power wasn't abused and what of willoughby? well, in my view, the halo has slipped for little miss perfect . but as the public miss perfect. but as the public tried to get their heads around the idea that she didn't know something was going on between phil and his, much younger itv colleague , it doesn't add up . colleague, it doesn't add up. this young lad had been in tv for approximately 11 minutes before appearing on stage at the 2018 national television awards, much to the irritation of other colleagues . he enjoyed cameos as

colleagues. he enjoyed cameos as an elf on the christmas special and the mail report that he didn't do much tv producing. instead said he was hanging around with phil and celebrity guests . this around with phil and celebrity guests. this most junior member of staff gets elevated to that status on a show like this morning, and there are no questions . do me a favour, questions. do me a favour, willoughby hasn't commented today as she reaches the tail end of her portuguese holiday in what the sun report is her £8 million bolthole. nice work. if you can get it . million bolthole. nice work. if you can get it. in the end, i think a lot of the vitriol towards schofield is a broader issue about the media elite and these smug millionaires patronised you and talking down to you every day on tv. i think the public have had enough of tv fakes like phillip schofield , fakes like phillip schofield, who pretend to be the lovely guy next door but are anything but. this story reflects the slow motion car crash that is

established media and its ever increasing corporate and woke messaging . mark my words, philip messaging. mark my words, philip will be the first of many. the elite will fall and i can't wait. bring popcorn . is wait. bring popcorn. is schofield the victim of a witch hunt? is he a victim of homophobia? mark gb news .com. reacting to my take at ten, my top pundits tonight, author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator lizzie zita and radio and tv broadcaster, fleet street legend mike porky parry. lizzie zita, do you buy phillip schofield's crocodile tears ? no, no, no, i crocodile tears? no, no, no, i aah-t— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i aah-t .— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i aah-t. .— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i aah-t. . aah-t.— crocodile tears? no, no, no, i don't. i don't. i've- ff: , no, no, no, i don't. i don't. i've worked tatte— don't. i don't. i've worked awtte a— don't. i don't. i've worked awhte a tat— don't. i don't. i've worked quite a lot at— don't. i don't. i've worked quite a lot at itv , and i'm very quite a lot at itv, and i'm very heee— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very thee to— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very close to somebody— quite a lot at itv, and i'm very close to somebody who also worked— close to somebody who also worked there _ close to somebody who also worked there .— close to somebody who also worked there . what happened worked there. what happened there— worked there. what happened thete wae— worked there. what happened there was absolutely dreadful. there— there was absolutely dreadful. thete wae— there was absolutely dreadful. thete a— there was absolutely dreadful. there was a massive amount of bullying-— there was a massive amount of hattyhg. thha— there was a massive amount of bullying. emma gormley and also matth— bullying. emma gormley and also hath tttzett— bullying. emma gormley and also martin frizell ,_ bullying. emma gormley and also martin frizell , when they martin frizell, when they attwet, — martin frizell, when they arrived, there _ martin frizell, when they arrived, there was a massive catt— arrived, there was a massive eat at— arrived, there was a massive

eat at peopte— arrived, there was a massive cull of people at— arrived, there was a massive cull of people at itv, people hated— cull of people at itv, people moved sideways. _ cull of people at itv, people moved sideways. they were sacked . theta— moved sideways. they were sacked . thett hh— moved sideways. they were sacked . their job titles— moved sideways. they were sacked . their job titles were moved sideways. they were sacked . theirjob titles were changed . their job titles were changed so . their job titles were changed ea that— . their job titles were changed ea that they— . their job titles were changed so that they could sack the pr why— so that they could sack the pr why the — so that they could sack the pr why the peopte,— so that they could sack the pr why the people, the freelancers tehe. — why the people, the freelancers were long. lots— why the people, the freelancers were long. lots and lots and tate— were long. lots and lots and tate at— were long. lots and lots and tete at peopte— were long. lots and lots and lots of people were gotten rid of lots of people were gotten rid at aha— lots of people were gotten rid at and they— lots of people were gotten rid at and they eat— lots of people were gotten rid of and they got the people in that— of and they got the people in that they— of and they got the people in that they wanted _ of and they got the people in that they wanted to get in. and the— that they wanted to get in. and thte-thha— that they wanted to get in. and this emma gormley said, this is after emma gormley said, oh, this is after emma gormley said, oht-i5_ this is after emma gormley said, hh-te atwaye- this is after emma gormley said, oh,-is always open.- oh, my door is always open. heathe— oh, my door is always open. heehte that— oh, my door is always open. people that i— oh, my door is always open. people that i know who went to her people that i know who went to he aha— people that i know who went to he and hate— people that i know who went to her and made a— people that i know who went to her and made a complaint about the hattytha— her and made a complaint about the bullying were— her and made a complaint about the bullying were pushed out. so ewetyththe— the bullying were pushed out. so ewetythha .— the bullying were pushed out. so everything i have— the bullying were pushed out. so everything i have to take my hat off everything i have to take my hat ah ta— everything i have to take my hat ah ta tahahh— everything i have to take my hat off to eamonn holmes because everything— off to eamonn holmes because ewetythhe that— off to eamonn holmes because everything that man said was aheatwtety— everything that man said was absolutely true— everything that man said was absolutely true and he was one of absolutely true and he was one at the— absolutely true and he was one at the tew— absolutely true and he was one of the few people _ absolutely true and he was one of the few people who went round to theee — of the few people who went round to theee peopte— of the few people who went round to these people who were being hate— to these people who were being made redundant— to these people who were being made redundant and said, what's going— made redundant and said, what's hehhe-th— made redundant and said, what's hehhe-hm teatty— made redundant and said, what's going-i'm really-to- going on? i'm really sorry to heat— going on? i'm really sorry to heat the. — going on? i'm really sorry to hear this. et— going on? i'm really sorry to hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so hear this. et cetera. et cetera. sa-tt-e— hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so-it's absolutely- hear this. et cetera. et cetera. so it's absolutely not so no, it's absolutely not homophobic— so no, it's absolutely not homophobic and it makes me sick that— homophobic and it makes me sick that h— homophobic and it makes me sick that h tt— homophobic and it makes me sick that it it wae— homophobic and it makes me sick that if it was a— homophobic and it makes me sick that if it was a female girl, thee— that if it was a female girl, there would— that if it was a female girl, there would be— that if it was a female girl, there would be an even bigger aha-a— there would be an even bigger aha-a .— there would be an even bigger ateah . hate— there would be an even bigger uproar. i have to— there would be an even bigger uproar. i have to say that yee— uproar. i have to say that you're absolutely right. and the htehteh — you're absolutely right. and the htehteh hee— you're absolutely right. and the problem lies with— you're absolutely right. and the problem lies with bullying is with— problem lies with bullying is with the— problem lies with bullying is with the producers, not the crew , het—

with the producers, not the crew , net the— with the producers, not the crew , net the teeth— with the producers, not the crew , not the people around, but with— , not the people around, but with the— , not the people around, but with the producers who allow theee— with the producers who allow theee heehte— with the producers who allow these people to— with the producers who allow these people to develop into heaa— these people to develop into heea eete— these people to develop into heea eete .— these people to develop into mega gods , these presenters. and mega gods, these presenters. and it's mega gods, these presenters. and he ewetyththa— mega gods, these presenters. and he ewetythhe te— mega gods, these presenters. and it's everything is about them . it's everything is about them. twetyththa— it's everything is about them. twetythhe te— it's everything is about them. everything is about them. and it's everything is about them. and he teatty— everything is about them. and it's really wrong.— everything is about them. and it's really wrong. and incidentally,- it's really wrong. and incidentally, i think they ehewtt— incidentally, i think they should give _ incidentally, i think they should give that lad back his job should give that lad back his ieh h— should give that lad back his ieh it he— should give that lad back his job if he wants— should give that lad back his job if he wants to work in teteweteh— job if he wants to work in television again. and i think that— television again. and i think that heehte— television again. and i think that people should get together and that people should get together aht thy— that people should get together and try ahe— that people should get together and try and ee— that people should get together and try and sue itv for their teet— and try and sue itv for their teet wett— and try and sue itv for their lost work and— and try and sue itv for their lost work and being made redundant— lost work and being made redundant .— lost work and being made redundant. unfair dismissal heeawee— redundant. unfair dismissal heeawee tt-e— redundant. unfair dismissal because it's an— redundant. unfair dismissal because it's an absolute eeantat— because it's an absolute scandal. well- because it's an absolute scandal. well let me put it on heat— scandal. well let me put it on eeett that— scandal. well let me put it on record that i'm— scandal. well let me put it on record that i'm happy and i will heee— record that i'm happy and i will need te— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear it— record that i'm happy and i will need to clear it with the heeeee— need to clear it with the bosses, but— need to clear it with the bosses, but i'm in principle happy— bosses, but i'm in principle happy to_ bosses, but i'm in principle happy to offer— bosses, but i'm in principle happy to offer that a happy to offer that young man a job- — happy to offer that young man a job- on— happy to offer that young man a job- oh-hetah— happy to offer that young man a job. on-dolan tonight- happy to offer that young man a job. o" i" ci" g ci" happy to offer that young man a. job. on-dolan tonight on gb job. on mark dolan tonight on gb news. i know that producer greg will back this decision up because clearly, clearly he has been at the wrong end of this show biz drama. he's now out of work. well, he's pulling pints in a northern pub. love to in a northern pub. we'd love to have on mark dolan have him here on mark dolan tonight offer it, tonight and that offer it, frankly, is one like to frankly, is one i'd like to develop explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deve to» explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deve to his explore. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people re. if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if if that frankly, is one i'd like to deveto his people or if hisf that gets to his people or if his friends find out, then pass on that message because i think he should be working in very

should be working in tv very strange. lisa mckenzie that that in a quite defensive interview with the bbc, schofield said that there is no toxic culture at this morning. i mean, that there is no toxic culture at this morning . i mean, when at this morning. i mean, when i watched— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that,— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i kind— at this morning. i mean, when i watched that, i kind of- g i mean, when i watched that, i kind of thought two watched that, i kind of thought twe ththee. — watched that, i kind of thought two things. you— watched that, i kind of thought two things. you know, this is the— two things. you know, this is the meet— two things. you know, this is the most human— two things. you know, this is the most human i've ever seen. thith— the most human i've ever seen. phillip schofield— the most human i've ever seen. phillip schofield called because he hethatty— phillip schofield called because he normally doesn't look very human — he normally doesn't look very human vea— he normally doesn't look very human. you know, he looks very , human. you know, he looks very, i human. you know, he looks very, . ten-t— human. you know, he looks very, . teh-t thew,— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake .— human. you know, he looks very, i don't know, fake . and all of i don't know, fake. and all of a ewtteh— i don't know, fake. and all of a ewtteh hh— i don't know, fake. and all of a sudden his wrinkles are showing and he— sudden his wrinkles are showing and hte white— sudden his wrinkles are showing and his white hair— sudden his wrinkles are showing and his white hair and he's teettha— and his white hair and he's teettha at— and his white hair and he's looking at older— and his white hair and he's looking at older. um, yeah . and looking at older. um, yeah. and then— looking at older. um, yeah. and then the— looking at older. um, yeah. and then the homophobic thing as wet.— then the homophobic thing as wet. th— then the homophobic thing as wett. t-h het— then the homophobic thing as well. i'm not buying that. and the eaee— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm not— well. i'm not buying that. and the reason i'm not buying that is the reason i'm not buying that he heeawee— the reason i'm not buying that he heeawee hy— the reason i'm not buying that is because my mate, my best hate,— is because my mate, my best mate whe— is because my mate, my best mate whe te— is because my mate, my best mate, who is a— is because my mate, my best mate, who is a gay man, said heh— mate, who is a gay man, said tteh hay— mate, who is a gay man, said tteh tay ee— mate, who is a gay man, said from day one, phillip schofield is from day one, phillip schofield te het— from day one, phillip schofield te het have— from day one, phillip schofield is not brave coming out as a 61 year— is not brave coming out as a 61 yeat eta— is not brave coming out as a 61 year ett hah— is not brave coming out as a 61 year ett .— is not brave coming out as a 61 year old man , he— is not brave coming out as a 61 year old man , he says, i'm year old man, he says, i'm have— year old man, he says, i'm have .— year old man, he says, i'm have . ahe— year old man, he says, i'm brave. i came out in the 1980s as brave. i came out in the 1980s ae a te— brave. i came out in the 1980s ae a te yea— brave. i came out in the 1980s as a 16 year old— brave. i came out in the 1980s as a 16 year old lad in an ex—hththa— as a 16 year old lad in an ex—mining community. that's htawety— ex—mining community. that's htawety .— ex—mining community. that's htawety . aha,— ex—mining community. that's bravery . and, you know , a lot of bravery. and, you know, a lot of the— bravery. and, you know, a lot of the gay— bravery. and, you know, a lot of the gay community— bravery. and, you know, a lot of

the gay community are not of ewhhett— the gay community are not of support supporting philip's sehettett.— support supporting philip's schofield. so— support supporting philip's schofield. so i'm not you know, i schofield. so i'm not you know, tththh— schofield. so i'm not you know, tththt the— schofield. so i'm not you know, i think the homophobic stuff is , ise— i think the homophobic stuff is , te yew— i think the homophobic stuff is , he, yew thew,— i think the homophobic stuff is , is, you know, it's— i think the homophobic stuff is , is, you know, it's a reach, ten-t— , is, you know, it's a reach, teh-t tt— , is, you know, it's a reach, teh-t tt .— , is, you know, it's a reach, isn't it , michael,- , is, you know, it's a reach, isn't it, michael, you've had to decipher— isn't it, michael, you've had to teethhet the— isn't it, michael, you've had to decipher the personality traits of decipher the personality traits et ee— decipher the personality traits et et— decipher the personality traits of some of the— decipher the personality traits of some of the most famous heehte— of some of the most famous heehte th— of some of the most famous heehte th the— of some of the most famous people in the world politicians, p0p— people in the world politicians, hep eta— people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors— people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors ,_ people in the world politicians, pop stars, actors , you name it. pop stars, actors, you name it. what-e— pop stars, actors, you name it. what-e yew— pop stars, actors, you name it. what's your professional- pop stars, actors, you name it. what's your professional verdict on what schofield had to say today? well, i think schofield is today? well, i think schofield te ehty— today? well, i think schofield te ehty the— today? well, i think schofield te ehty the th— today? well, i think schofield is only the tip of— 3“ well, i think schofield is only the tip of the iceberg of is only the tip of the iceberg et a— is only the tip of the iceberg et a hate— is only the tip of the iceberg of a huge conspira ac. i think there-e— of a huge conspira ac. i think thete-e a— of a huge conspira ac. i think there's a huge— of a huge conspira ac. i think there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a huge conspiracy going there-e— there's a huge conspiracy going thete-e a— there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a story— there's a huge conspiracy going on. there's a story doing the tewhte— on. there's a story doing the tewhte at— on. there's a story doing the rounds at the— on. there's a story doing the rounds at the moment that three yeate— rounds at the moment that three yeate age— rounds at the moment that three yeate age a— rounds at the moment that three years ago a national newspaper etttet— years ago a national newspaper etttet weht— years ago a national newspaper editor went to _ years ago a national newspaper editor went to itv— years ago a national newspaper editor went to itv and said, we thew— editor went to itv and said, we knew ahewt— editor went to itv and said, we know about phillip schofield etety— know about phillip schofield etety ahe— know about phillip schofield etety and the— know about phillip schofield story and the deal was , please story and the deal was, please teh-t— story and the deal was, please teh-t ee— story and the deal was, please don't use that— story and the deal was, please don't use that one. we'll give you— don't use that one. we'll give yew ether— don't use that one. we'll give you other stories— don't use that one. we'll give you other stories other big you other stories with other big etae— you other stories with other big etate .— you other stories with other big etate , yew— you other stories with other big stars , you know,— you other stories with other big stars , you know, which you can stars, you know, which you can .we— stars, you know, which you can .we-wh- use. and we might up the atwetttetha— use. and we might up the advertising-in- use. and we might up the advertising in your advertising spend in your hewehahet— advertising spend in your newspaper for— advertising spend in your newspaper for titles all newspaper for titles and all the— newspaper for titles and all thte .— newspaper for titles and all this i think— newspaper for titles and all this i think may— newspaper for titles and all this i think may come out is it tweetay— this i think may come out is it tweetay thie— this i think may come out is it tuesday this week— this i think may come out is it tuesday this week when there's a cehhehe— tuesday this week when there's a cehhehe hawtty— tuesday this week when there's a commons inquiry because the very top commons inquiry because the very teh heehte— commons inquiry because the very teh teeth at— commons inquiry because the very teh teeth at hw— commons inquiry because the very top people at itv are going to be top people at itv are going to he aehet— top people at itv are going to he aetet .— top people at itv are going to be asked , how— top people at itv are going to be asked , how long know be asked, how long did you know this be asked, how long did you know the-tethe— be asked, how long did you know the-hehhe eh— be asked, how long did you know this-going on for?— be asked, how long did you know this going on for? mean, this was going on for? i mean, atteaty— this was going on for? i mean, atteaty the— this was going on for? i mean,

already the claim _ this was going on for? i mean, already the claim from itv that, wett— already the claim from itv that, wet, we— already the claim from itv that, well, we asked— already the claim from itv that, well, we asked both sides , we well, we asked both sides, we aehet— well, we asked both sides, we aetet thith— well, we asked both sides, we asked philip, and— well, we asked both sides, we asked philip, and philip's athtttet— asked philip, and philip's athtttet .— asked philip, and philip's admitted , as— asked philip, and philip's admitted , as we know, to lying, admitted, as we know, to lying, but admitted, as we know, to lying, hwt we— admitted, as we know, to lying, hwt we aehet— admitted, as we know, to lying, but we asked the— admitted, as we know, to lying, but we asked the young boy who was but we asked the young boy who hte— but we asked the young boy who hte tewet— but we asked the young boy who was his lover, but— but we asked the young boy who was his lover, but the young boy tatttha— was his lover, but the young boy were talking about— was his lover, but the young boy were talking about has come back on were talking about has come back at that— were talking about has come back at that aha— were talking about has come back on that and said— were talking about has come back on that and said nobody ever aehet— on that and said nobody ever aetet he— on that and said nobody ever asked me, nobody ever asked me if i asked me, nobody ever asked me it . wae— asked me, nobody ever asked me it . th— asked me, nobody ever asked me it . in a— asked me, nobody ever asked me if i was in a relationship with thith— if i was in a relationship with phillip schofield— if i was in a relationship with phillip schofield . and so that phillip schofield. and so that in teett— phillip schofield. and so that in tteett te— phillip schofield. and so that in itself is a— phillip schofield. and so that in itself is a cloud of misinformation on people eewetthe— misinformation on people covering each— misinformation on people covering each other's backs. whe-e— covering each other's backs. whe-e hehe— covering each other's backs. whe-e going te— covering each other's backs. who's going to take the rap you hehttehet— who's going to take the rap you mentioned martin— who's going to take the rap you mentioned martin frizell, the ether— mentioned martin frizell, the etttet et— mentioned martin frizell, the editor of the— mentioned martin frizell, the editor of the program. he must be editor of the program. he must he very— editor of the program. he must be very worried— editor of the program. he must be very worried now because aphatehtty— be very worried now because aphatehtty he— be very worried now because apparently he was the biggest cheerleader— apparently he was the biggest cheerleader for— apparently he was the biggest cheerleader for philip's schofield— cheerleader for philip's schofield for- cheerleader for philip's schofield for years, but has hehe— schofield for years, but has gone very— schofield for years, but has gone wety eete— schofield for years, but has gone very cold on him over the taet— gone very cold on him over the taet eewhte— gone very cold on him over the taet eewhte et— gone very cold on him over the last couple of months, last three— last couple of months, last three months— last couple of months, last three months or- last couple of months, last three months or whatever , and three months or whatever, and hehttehtha— three months or whatever, and mentioning ehm_ three months or whatever, and mentioning ehm as well, eamonn hethee— mentioning ehm as well, eamonn hethee tahehh— mentioning ehm as well, eamonn holmes, eamonn was put in the thwttewe— holmes, eamonn was put in the invidious position— holmes, eamonn was put in the invidious position of being put the— invidious position of being put the the— invidious position of being put into this incredible drama which ewttewhtet— into this incredible drama which surrounded phillip schofield eehtha— surrounded phillip schofield eehtha ewt— surrounded phillip schofield coming out without eamonn htehetty— coming out without eamonn htehetty hehe— coming out without eamonn properly being told what his part— properly being told what his hat th— properly being told what his hat in the— properly being told what his part in the drama was.

properly being told what his part in the drama was . so he and part in the drama was. so he and hwth— part in the drama was. so he and hwth yew— part in the drama was. so he and hwth yew thew,— part in the drama was. so he and ruth, you know, agreed to turn up ruth, you know, agreed to turn we eh— ruth, you know, agreed to turn we at eet— ruth, you know, agreed to turn we at eet with— ruth, you know, agreed to turn up on set with schofield and hetty— up on set with schofield and hetty hha— up on set with schofield and hetty the et— up on set with schofield and holly kind of knew what was going— holly kind of knew what was eehe eh— holly kind of knew what was going on because schofield had eeteehatty— going on because schofield had personally admitted to ehm and i'm personally admitted to ehm and th gay.— personally admitted to ehm and th gay. ahe— personally admitted to ehm and i'm gay. and eamonn responded and eate— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and eat, se— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and said, so what?— i'm gay. and eamonn responded and said, so what? because that-e— and said, so what? because that-e what— and said, so what? because that's what we'd— and said, so what? because that's what we'd all say, right? hwt— that's what we'd all say, right? hwt theh— that's what we'd all say, right? hwt theh tt— that's what we'd all say, right? but then it turned— that's what we'd all say, right? but then it turned into the most massive drama— but then it turned into the most massive drama where schofield is hugging— massive drama where schofield is hweehe hwth— massive drama where schofield is hweehe hwth hwt— massive drama where schofield is hugging ruth, but at the same the— hugging ruth, but at the same the teaching— hugging ruth, but at the same time reaching out and trying to etwteh— time reaching out and trying to clutch eamonn's_ time reaching out and trying to clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him clutch eamonn's arm and drawing hth tewatte— clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him towards him.— clutch eamonn's arm and drawing him towards him. and it was atheet— him towards him. and it was atheet the— him towards him. and it was almost like they— him towards him. and it was almost like they were using tahehh— almost like they were using eamonn as a smokescreen for eeheththe— eamonn as a smokescreen for something much— eamonn as a smokescreen for something much bigger that was going— something much bigger that was eeha eh— something much bigger that was eehe at th— something much bigger that was eehe at th the— something much bigger that was going on in the background. but they— going on in the background. but they wanted— going on in the background. but they wanted eamonn holmes to the— they wanted eamonn holmes to the the— they wanted eamonn holmes to the the whete— they wanted eamonn holmes to give the whole thing respectability and that to me is wttetty— respectability and that to me is utterly disgraceful . ' t: utterly disgraceful. and mark, can utterly disgraceful. and mark, .,_ utterly disgraceful. and mark, can i, can i. sorry,— utterly disgraceful. ' t: tit?" tit?“ sorry, briefly utterly disgraceful. ' t: i " i " sorry, briefly if can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if yew ah— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if yew yeah— can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you can. yeah _ can i, can i. sorry, briefly if you can. yeah very- is“ is“ sorry, briefly if you can. yeah «cg can i, can i. sorry, briefly if- you can. yeah very briefly, look at the timeline . the guy was 18 at the timeline. the guy was 18 years old when he was hired . years old when he was hired. what was done? oh, oh, it's just past midnight. he's 18 now. now he can hire him. of course, he had a relationship with guy had a relationship with the guy pnor had a relationship with the guy prior that . but, i mean, you prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't . prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't. don't prior to that. but, i mean, you know, just don't . don't buy know, i just don't. i don't buy any okay. well, i'm

any of it. okay. well, i'm tettehtet— any of it. okay. well, i'm delighted-say- any of it. okay. well, i'm delighted-say that- e well, i'm delighted say that this story delighted to say that this story is delighted to say that this story he eehthe— delighted to say that this story is coming -1030 - delighted to say that this story is coming 1030 because is coming back at 1030 because it's is coming back at 1030 because he teatwtthe— is coming back at 1030 because it's featuring in— is coming back at 1030 because it's featuring in several the it's featuring in several of the tent— it's featuring in several of the tent-wett— it's featuring in several of the front we'll hitting front pages. we'll be hitting that—wtth- front pages. we'll be hitting that—with full| that bang on 1030 with full ewhttt— that bang on 1030 with full pundit reaction— that bang on 1030 with full pundit reaction . and listen, pundit reaction. and listen, heat— pundit reaction. and listen, heat-were— pundit reaction. and listen, next we're going to look at next up, we're going to look at whether— next up, we're going to look at whether et— next up, we're going to look at whether or not— next up, we're going to look at whether or not holly willoughby ehewtt— whether or not holly willoughby ehewtt he— whether or not holly willoughby should be back— whether or not holly willoughby should be back on this morning. shewtt— should be back on this morning. shewtt ehe— should be back on this morning. should she return— should be back on this morning. should she return to the show on ttentay— should she return to the show on wehtay. what— should she return to the show on monday. what do— should she return to the show on monday. what do you think? do you monday. what do you think? do yew-te— monday. what do you think? do yew-te watch— monday. what do you think? do you -to watch -on i you want to watch her back on the— you want to watch her back on the-heee— you want to watch her back on the-heee ehe- you want to watch her back on the-does she still. you want to watch her back on the does she still have the program? does she still have etetthttttye— the program? does she still have credibility?-believe- credibility? do you believe that?— credibility? do you believe that? she— credibility? do you believe that? she knew nothing all along 7 that? she knew nothing all along e—sehettett- ? also was phillip schofield eehwthety— ? also was phillip schofield genuinely close— ? also was phillip schofield genuinely close to suicide? is he hit— genuinely close to suicide? is he etttt a— genuinely close to suicide? is he still a suicide— genuinely close to suicide? is he still a suicide risk? i'll be aetthe— he still a suicide risk? i'll be asking tonight's— he still a suicide risk? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, the teatteee— asking tonight's newsmaker, the teatteee hhh— asking tonight's newsmaker, the fearless kim woodburn. she's

right things, whether there are any lessons that we can learn. your listening . to well, look, your listening. to well, look, some your listening. to well, look, ettehe— your listening. to well, look, some strong emails- /t:::t. i l petty“ “g well, look, some strong emails coming /t:::t. i l m“ “g well, look, some strong emails coming in. market— some strong emails coming in. market news.com _ some strong emails coming in. market news.com .— some strong emails coming in. market news.com . do you buy market news.com. do you buy thithe— market news.com. do you buy phillip schofield _ market news.com. do you buy phillip schofield crocodile teae?— phillip schofield crocodile tears? well,— phillip schofield crocodile tears? well, here's wendy who's not tears? well, here's wendy who's het ewttthe— tears? well, here's wendy who's het ewttthe het— tears? well, here's wendy who's not pulling her punches. wendy eaye— not pulling her punches. wendy eaye hath— not pulling her punches. wendy eaye, hath t— not pulling her punches. wendy says, mark, i hope— not pulling her punches. wendy says, mark, i hope for your eahee— says, mark, i hope for your eahee that— says, mark, i hope for your sakes that philip does not take

his sakes that philip does not take hte ew— sakes that philip does not take hte the.— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if he— sakes that philip does not take his own life. if he does , you his own life. if he does, you ahe— his own life. if he does, you and yew— his own life. if he does, you and your cohorts,- his own life. if he does, you and your cohorts, including the eathtty— and your cohorts, including the saintly eamonn— and your cohorts, including the saintly eamonn holmes , will saintly eamonn holmes, will eettathty— saintly eamonn holmes, will eettathty he— saintly eamonn holmes, will certainly be culpable . you certainly be culpable. you teatty— certainly be culpable. you teatty ate— certainly be culpable. you teatty a— certainly be culpable. you really are a pile of know heththe— really are a pile of know nothing gossips who delight in a eeeehe tatt— nothing gossips who delight in a person's fall from _ nothing gossips who delight in a person's fall from grace. what a ehahe— person's fall from grace. what a ehahe yew— person's fall from grace. what a shame you don't— person's fall from grace. what a shame you don't have anything thtetttaeht— shame you don't have anything intelligent to— shame you don't have anything intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet— intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet haeey— intelligent to discuss, wendy. wet haeey wtth— intelligent to discuss, wendy. not happy with this debate. do you not happy with this debate. do yew ththh— not happy with this debate. do you think that— not happy with this debate. do you think that this program , you think that this program, the— you think that this program, this channel— you think that this program, this channel and the media are mathe— this channel and the media are hatthe a— this channel and the media are making a mountain out of a hetehttte— making a mountain out of a molehill? do— making a mountain out of a molehill? do you agree with with wehty— molehill? do you agree with with wehty eh— molehill? do you agree with with wehty at that— molehill? do you agree with with wendy on that market? gb news . vee. hetty— wendy on that market? gb news .com . yes. holly should go back .com. yes. holly should go back to .com. yes. holly should go back te thte— .com. yes. holly should go back to this morning,— .com. yes. holly should go back to this morning, says wayne as ehe— to this morning, says wayne as ehe hae— to this morning, says wayne as ehe hae hehe— to this morning, says wayne as she has done nothing wrong this hae— she has done nothing wrong this hae eate— she has done nothing wrong this man has said he— she has done nothing wrong this man has said he knows what catetthe— man has said he knows what caroline flack— man has said he knows what caroline flack went through. how tate— caroline flack went through. how tate hee— caroline flack went through. how date he? he— caroline flack went through. how dare he? he bullied this poor eth— dare he? he bullied this poor attt eh— dare he? he bullied this poor that at the— dare he? he bullied this poor girl on the sofa— dare he? he bullied this poor girl on the sofa of this hehhe. — girl on the sofa of this morning. and so jog on, says wayhe.— morning. and so jog on, says wayhe. hete— morning. and so jog on, says wayne. more of— morning. and so jog on, says wayne. more of your emails that-e— wayne. more of your emails that-e twet— wayne. more of your emails that's just coming in thick and het.— that's just coming in thick and taet. twe— that's just coming in thick and taet. he get— that's just coming in thick and fast. i've got to— that's just coming in thick and fast. i've got to say, an unprecedented number of emails. we unprecedented number of emails. we wee— unprecedented number of emails. we etch— unprecedented number of emails. we were sick of— unprecedented number of emails. we were sick of seeing schofield on we were sick of seeing schofield at every— we were sick of seeing schofield at every ehew— we were sick of seeing schofield at every ehew .— we were sick of seeing schofield on every show , says adrian. itv on every show, says adrian. itv heete— on every show, says adrian. itv heete te— on every show, says adrian. itv

heete te etee— on every show, says adrian. itv needs to stop depending on a eettath— needs to stop depending on a eettath tew— needs to stop depending on a certain few stars. _ needs to stop depending on a certain few stars. there's etehty— certain few stars. there's etehty ewt— certain few stars. there's plenty out there. schofield teeewee— plenty out there. schofield deserves what— plenty out there. schofield deserves what he gets . richard deserves what he gets. richard cteeettte— deserves what he gets. richard crocodile tears— deserves what he gets. richard crocodile tears and throwing every— crocodile tears and throwing ewety eart— crocodile tears and throwing every card onto— crocodile tears and throwing every card onto the table to eeth— every card onto the table to spin maximum— every card onto the table to spin maximum sympathy. pass me a wheth— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a wetth aha— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it a— spin maximum sympathy. pass me a violin and make it a small one. take— violin and make it a small one. take eth— violin and make it a small one. take ett eaye— violin and make it a small one. fake off, says richard . can i fake off, says richard. can i twet— fake off, says richard. can i twet eay— fake off, says richard. can i twet eay that— fake off, says richard. can i just say that your emails are eetthe— just say that your emails are eettthe ee— just say that your emails are getting more poetic and creative by getting more poetic and creative hy the— getting more poetic and creative hy the eaye— getting more poetic and creative hy the eaye tt-e— getting more poetic and creative by the day? it's always the htehtteht— by the day? it's always the htehtteht et— by the day? it's always the highlight of my show, let me teth— highlight of my show, let me tett yew. — highlight of my show, let me tell you. we've— highlight of my show, let me tell you. we've got tomorrow's eaeeh— tell you. we've got tomorrow's eaeete aha— tell you. we've got tomorrow's papers and there's a lot of sehettett— papers and there's a lot of schofield in— papers and there's a lot of schofield in there. let me tell yew.— schofield in there. let me tell yew. that-e— schofield in there. let me tell yew. that-e at— schofield in there. let me tell you. that's at 1030 sharp on sehettett— you. that's at 1030 sharp on sehettett .— you. that's at 1030 sharp on schofield . more— you. that's at 1030 sharp on schofield . more to come. let's schofield. more to come. let's have— schofield. more to come. let's have a— schofield. more to come. let's have a teet— schofield. more to come. let's have a look at— schofield. more to come. let's have a look at keith who says hi. have a look at keith who says ht. why— have a look at keith who says ht. why te— have a look at keith who says hi. why is phillip— have a look at keith who says hi. why is phillip schofield hatthe— hi. why is phillip schofield hatthe eweh— hi. why is phillip schofield making such a— hi. why is phillip schofield making such a drama about losing wette— making such a drama about losing wethe hee— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly at— making such a drama about losing work? he's nearly at retirement age— work? he's nearly at retirement age ahe— work? he's nearly at retirement age and hete— work? he's nearly at retirement age and tete et— work? he's nearly at retirement age and lots of people are made tetwhtaht— age and lots of people are made tetwhtaht at— age and lots of people are made redundant at similar ages. the thtetehee— redundant at similar ages. the difference is— redundant at similar ages. the difference is that— redundant at similar ages. the difference is that he's worth httttehe— difference is that he's worth millions and— difference is that he's worth millions and can choose never to wett— millions and can choose never to weak agath— millions and can choose never to weak agath et— millions and can choose never to work again or start— millions and can choose never to work again or start in some ether— work again or start in some ethet theta— work again or start in some other field without ever having any eey — other field without ever having any money. worries what he has got any money. worries what he has get te— any money. worries what he has get te he— any money. worries what he has got to be miserable about is very— got to be miserable about is very ttttte— got to be miserable about is very little. he— got to be miserable about is very little. he should come down

to very little. he should come down te eatth— very little. he should come down te eatth aha— very little. he should come down to earth and be— very little. he should come down to earth and be grateful for what— to earth and be grateful for what he-e— to earth and be grateful for what he get— to earth and be grateful for what he's got and enjoy his tetttement— what he's got and enjoy his retirement, says— what he's got and enjoy his retirement, says keith. well, as i retirement, says keith. well, as t eethtet— retirement, says keith. well, as t eethtet ewt— retirement, says keith. well, as i pointed out in— retirement, says keith. well, as i pointed out in my take, at ten:— i pointed out in my take, at he tt— i pointed out in my take, at he tt htght— i pointed out in my take, at ten, it might be— i pointed out in my take, at ten, it might be an overreaction that— ten, it might be an overreaction that he— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career is— ten, it might be an overreaction that his career is over. it htght— that his career is over. it htght he— that his career is over. it htght he a— that his career is over. it might be a bit- that his career is over. it might be a bit harsh, but unlike many— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et yew,— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many et yew, tt— might be a bit harsh, but unlike many of you, if you lose your job,— many of you, if you lose your jobt he— many of you, if you lose your tet, he went— many of you, if you lose your job, he won't be— many of you, if you lose your job, he won't be going hungry. ttathet— job, he won't be going hungry. ttathet eh— job, he won't be going hungry. market gb news— job, he won't be going hungry. market gb news .com or get some et— market gb news .com or get some et yew— market gb news .com or get some more of your emails— market gb news .com or get some more of your emails shortly. tet-e— more of your emails shortly. tet-e get— more of your emails shortly. let's get further— more of your emails shortly. let's get further thoughts now heh— let's get further thoughts now tteh hy— let's get further thoughts now them my tee— let's get further thoughts now from my top pundits , author and from my top pundits, author and aeatehte— from my top pundits, author and aeatehte ht.— from my top pundits, author and academic dr. lisa— from my top pundits, author and academic dr. lisa mckenzie , academic dr. lisa mckenzie, tewthattet— academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and— academic dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator. ttzzte— journalist and commentator. ttzzte ztta— journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and— journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and radio tv lizzie zita and radio and tv tegeht— lizzie zita and radio and tv tegeht tithe— lizzie zita and radio and tv legend mike porky parry. and tteteh— legend mike porky parry. and tteteh we-te— legend mike porky parry. and listen, we're trying to get a the— listen, we're trying to get a the te— listen, we're trying to get a the te the — listen, we're trying to get a line to the brilliant kim woodburn,— line to the brilliant kim woodburn, but there's an thtethet— woodburn, but there's an internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate— internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate te— internet connection issues. i'm teeeetate te get— internet connection issues. i'm desperate to get her on. greg wayhe— desperate to get her on. greg ttayheite— desperate to get her on. greg ttayheite tt— desperate to get her on. greg maybe-do it after- desperate to get her on. greg maybe do it after half ten if maybe we do it after half ten if we can..we can— maybe we do it after half ten if we can. we can make that we can. if we can make that weak. — we can. if we can make that weak. hwt— we can. if we can make that work. buthould- we can. if we can make that work. but would ask you, mike work. but i would ask you, mike patty,— work. but i would ask you, mike hatty, whether— work. but i would ask you, mike parry, whether wendy is right, that— parry, whether wendy is right, that away— parry, whether wendy is right, that actually we _ parry, whether wendy is right, that actually we are making a hewhtath— that actually we are making a mountain out— that actually we are making a mountain out of— that actually we are making a mountain out of a mole hill and egg,— mountain out of a mole hill and age, ttahhty— mountain out of a mole hill and age, ttahhty .— mountain out of a mole hill and that, frankly , we're— mountain out of a mole hill and that, frankly , we're celebrating that, frankly, we're celebrating a tatt— that, frankly, we're celebrating a man's fall from _ that, frankly, we're celebrating a man's fall from grace. what do you— a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththh— a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththh e —

a man's fall from grace. what do yew ththhe we.— a man's fall from grace. what do you think ? no, we're- a man's fall from grace. what do you think ? \t:::t its; you think? no, we're not celebrating man's fall from grace. what we're doing is we're all standing back in amazement that such huge could that such a huge scandal could be happening right in front of our very eyes. was on the our very eyes. he was on the couch every morning with holly and people aren't stupid . and and people aren't stupid. and over the last 2 or 3 months, people have noticed the division between the them moving between the two of them moving away. other things that away. the other things that interest as as the interest me are as as the balance of power between the two of started to shift. holly of them started to shift. holly started to become more popular. phil popular. there phil became less popular. there was a front cover of the i think it was the sunday times magazine , which was a tribute to holly willoughby after i think she'd done the thing with liberty . done the thing with liberty. yes, that's right . and ant yes, that's right. and ant ttehatttth— yes, that's right. and ant mcpartlin got— yes, that's right. and ant mcpartlin got the- “his 3“ and ant mcpartlin got the got the tttwhg — mcpartlin got the got the driving issue.— mcpartlin got the got the driving issue. so he took a eth— driving issue. so he took a series off. that's right . mm series off. that's right. now, ehe— series off. that's right. now, ehe we— series off. that's right. now, she won an award- series off. that's right. now, she won an award for that. but also it really upped her profile. you know what i mean? and they never talked about that on the set. isn't that ridiculous? you know, your co—worker gets this great award and you talk about it. and you don't talk about it. also, they had the queen's

also, when they had the queen's gate problem, holly wanted to apologise and did make some reference to it. but but phil, no, absolutely stumped . didn't no, absolutely stumped. didn't want to say anything about it. so it was obvious that there was tension between the two of them. so for anybody to say, oh, it's all exaggerated , oh, it's all all exaggerated, oh, it's all a storm in a teacup, it's not. he's one of the biggest stars on british tv. he generates tens if not hundreds of millions of poundsin not hundreds of millions of pounds in revenues for itv . it's pounds in revenues for itv. it's a major story . pounds in revenues for itv. it's a major story. it's been handled brilliantly by a lot of our great journalists in this country, including eamonn holmes , sometimes of this parish . and , sometimes of this parish. and the truth is now coming out because only the truth matters here. and everything that's been going on in the background for the last 2 or 3 years, hopefully will be revealed in the commons inquiry coming up next week and thereafter because we've all been taken for fools and there's been taken for fools and there's been bucket loads of deceit and

that deceit has got to be unveiled . well, i've got to say unveiled. well, i've got to say the— unveiled. well, i've got to say the tent— unveiled. well, i've got to say the tent eagee— unveiled. well, i've got to say the front pages are— l. tit: well, i've got to say the front pages are coming in thet— the front pages are coming in thteh aha— the front pages are coming in thick and fast— the front pages are coming in thick and fast and we will hear heh— thick and fast and we will hear tteh thea— thick and fast and we will hear from lisa and— thick and fast and we will hear from lisa and lizzie and mike petty— from lisa and lizzie and mike hethy patty— from lisa and lizzie and mike hethy hatty th— from lisa and lizzie and mike porky parry in just a couple of hhhee.— porky parry in just a couple of hthwtee. het— porky parry in just a couple of minutes. hot off— porky parry in just a couple of minutes. hot off the press, sehettett— minutes. hot off the press, schofield willoughby, there's ehty— schofield willoughby, there's ehty ee— schofield willoughby, there's only one show— schofield willoughby, there's only one show in— schofield willoughby, there's only one show in town, so we'll att— only one show in town, so we'll att et— only one show in town, so we'll cover all of that. _ only one show in town, so we'll cover all of that. keep those ehahe— cover all of that. keep those emails coming. _ cover all of that. keep those emails coming. is this a cruel wtteh— emails coming. is this a cruel wtteh hwht— emails coming. is this a cruel witch hunt against phillip sehettett— witch hunt against phillip schofield mark gb news .com. hen-t— schofield mark gb news .com. heh-t ge— schofield mark gb news .com. don't go anywhere. tomorrow's eaeete— don't go anywhere. tomorrow's eaeete ate— don't go anywhere. tomorrow's eaeete .—

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following. uk public blames htextt— following. uk public blames htextt tet— following. uk public blames brexit for higher food prices . brexit for higher food prices. the— brexit for higher food prices. he hath— brexit for higher food prices. his daily mirror— brexit for higher food prices. his daily mirror alison's tears for his daily mirror alison's tears tet thi— his daily mirror alison's tears tet thtt thte— his daily mirror alison's tears for phil this morning. presenter heate— for phil this morning. presenter hteahe hewh— for phil this morning. presenter breaks down on— for phil this morning. presenter breaks down on air and says he hae— breaks down on air and says he hae hehe— breaks down on air and says he has done wrong.— breaks down on air and says he has done wrong. the daily tetegtaeh— has done wrong. the daily telegraph remote work lifestyle to telegraph remote work lifestyle te drop— telegraph remote work lifestyle te ttee hewee— telegraph remote work lifestyle to drop house prices by 10% for geet— to drop house prices by 10% for geet ahe— to drop house prices by 10% for good and wealthy— to drop house prices by 10% for good and wealthy fleeing the uk to good and wealthy fleeing the uk te awett— good and wealthy fleeing the uk to avoid inheritance tax, say tthahetat— to avoid inheritance tax, say financial advisers and said hthtetete— financial advisers and said ministers had— financial advisers and said ministers had secret units to teth— ministers had secret units to kerb. critics— ministers had secret units to kerb. critics of— ministers had secret units to kerb. critics of lockdown . the kerb. critics of lockdown. the ewatttah— kerb. critics of lockdown. the guardian next— kerb. critics of lockdown. the guardian next game changing drug eewtt— guardian next game changing drug eewtt heeet— guardian next game changing drug could boost breast— guardian next game changing drug could boost breast cancer ewwtwat— could boost breast cancer survival rates— could boost breast cancer survival rates .- could boost breast cancer survival rates . daily express at survival rates. daily express at taet. — survival rates. daily express at taet. vee— survival rates. daily express at last. you're listening. banks put— last. you're listening. banks put up— last. you're listening. banks ewt we eawhge— last. you're listening. banks put up savings rates . the last. you're listening. banks put up savings rates. the times on put up savings rates. the times at a satwttay— put up savings rates. the times on a saturday blood test promise is on a saturday blood test promise te taet— on a saturday blood test promise te taet caheet— on a saturday blood test promise is fast cancer diagnosis at taet. — is fast cancer diagnosis at taet. hehe— is fast cancer diagnosis at last. some good news. the daily thatt— last. some good news. the daily thatt whehe— last. some good news. the daily mail unions line— last. some good news. the daily mail unions line up— last. some good news. the daily mail unions line up another year of mail unions line up another year et tatt— mail unions line up another year et at ethe— mail unions line up another year of rail strike mayhem . fresh of rail strike mayhem. fresh

taeet— of rail strike mayhem. fresh taeet hetty— of rail strike mayhem. fresh faced holly flies— of rail strike mayhem. fresh faced holly flies back into this hehh-eg— faced holly flies back into this morning's storm _ faced holly flies back into this morning's storm as well. let's have— morning's storm as well. let's have a— morning's storm as well. let's have a teet— morning's storm as well. let's have a look at— morning's storm as well. let's have a look at the— morning's storm as well. let's have a look at the sun . i fear have a look at the sun. i fear hehg— have a look at the sun. i fear hethg eeat— have a look at the sun. i fear hethg eeat — have a look at the sun. i fear being spat on. phillip schofield eewetwe— being spat on. phillip schofield exclusive interview . fallen star exclusive interview. fallen star thithe— exclusive interview. fallen star phillip schofield _ exclusive interview. fallen star phillip schofield fears he will be phillip schofield fears he will he eeat— phillip schofield fears he will he eeat eh— phillip schofield fears he will he eeat at th— phillip schofield fears he will be spat on in the— phillip schofield fears he will be spat on in the streets after eehteeethg— be spat on in the streets after eehteeethg te— be spat on in the streets after confessing to his— be spat on in the streets after confessing to his affair with a yewhget— confessing to his affair with a younger colleague. he admits tetay— younger colleague. he admits tetay t— younger colleague. he admits tetay t te— younger colleague. he admits tetay t he het— younger colleague. he admits today i do not know a time i wit— today i do not know a time i wttt he— today i do not know a time i will be able— today i do not know a time i will be able to— today i do not know a time i will be able to walk out of the teet— will be able to walk out of the teet .— will be able to walk out of the teet . ehay. — will be able to walk out of the door . okay. what— will be able to walk out of the door . okay. what have we got door. okay. what have we got heate— door. okay. what have we got heath what-e— door. okay. what have we got next? what's next, folks ? the next? what's next, folks? the etae— next? what's next, folks? the etah whe — next? what's next, folks? the star? who the— next? what's next, folks? the star? who the hell are these eteheee— star? who the hell are these sickos? britain _ star? who the hell are these sickos? britain is— star? who the hell are these sickos? britain is becoming a hatteh— sickos? britain is becoming a hatteh et— sickos? britain is becoming a nation of deviants as 13% of eeeete— nation of deviants as 13% of eeeete athtt— nation of deviants as 13% of people admit pouring tea or eettee— people admit pouring tea or eettee eh— people admit pouring tea or coffee on their— people admit pouring tea or coffee on their cereal. talk ahewt— coffee on their cereal. talk ahewt a— coffee on their cereal. talk about a wrong'un absolute eheehet— about a wrong'un absolute shocker. those— about a wrong'un absolute shocker. those are your front eagee— shocker. those are your front eagee. tet-e— shocker. those are your front eagee. tet-e get— shocker. those are your front pages. let's get full pundit teaetteh— pages. let's get full pundit reaction now— pages. let's get full pundit reaction now from my fantastic ewhttte. — reaction now from my fantastic ewhttte. t— reaction now from my fantastic ewhttte. t ah— reaction now from my fantastic pundits. i am delighted to have the ethnographer_ pundits. i am delighted to have the ethnographer , the academic the ethnographer, the academic dr. the ethnographer, the academic ht. thea— the ethnographer, the academic dr. lisa mckenzie— the ethnographer, the academic dr. lisa mckenzie , journalist dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist ahe— dr. lisa mckenzie, journalist and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte— and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte aha— and commentator. lizzie zita and tatte and tv— and commentator. lizzie zita and radio and tv broadcaster fleet street— radio and tv broadcaster fleet street tegeht— radio and tv broadcaster fleet street legend mike porky parry . street legend mike porky parry. so street legend mike porky parry. se hahy— street legend mike porky parry. so many stories— street legend mike porky parry. so many stories to get through .

so many stories to get through. tithe— so many stories to get through. tithe t— so many stories to get through. tithe i went— so many stories to get through. mike i don't fancy— so many stories to get through. mike i don't fancy that you aiiehe— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line up— mike i don't fancy that you aliens line up another year of tatt— aliens line up another year of at ettihe— aliens line up another year of rail strike mayhem. yeah it's all political,— rail strike mayhem. yeah it's all political, isn't it ? �*ftt�*ti; all political, isn't it? we know that— all political, isn't it? we know that tet— all political, isn't it? we know that tet a— all political, isn't it? we know that for a fact . there's plenty that for a fact. there's plenty of evidence that a lot of people, certainly in the background of the railway unions , have admitted that it's an overtly political move to try and get rid of the current government. but i don't know why they're bothering because it looks like the wages for their workers are they just trying to get wages for their workers? well, why don't they put well, vtihy don't they put the well, why don't they put the successive -their- successive offers to their weteteh— successive offers to their weteteh th— successive offers to their weteteh in a— successive offers to their workers in a ballot then workers in a ballot and then thei— workers in a ballot and then their workers— workers in a ballot and then their workers come back? their workers can come back? they— their workers can come back? they eay— their workers can come back? they say. eh.— their workers can come back? they say. eh he— their workers can come back? they say, oh, no, no,- their workers can come back? they say, oh, no, no, we've got a in which all the a system in which all the workers consulted. but workers are consulted. but everybody says the everybody i speak to says the ballot has not taken place on the government stroke . the the government stroke. the railway owners later offer. and if you don't put the i mean, look, they're getting £65,000 a yeah look, they're getting £65,000 a year. so they're already getting doubled. they're getting double what the national wage is not true. and yet they are pigheaded

in refusing to even consider other things like working sundays a normal day instead of working sunday is always overtime . an antiquated working overtime. an antiquated working practises which they won't give way on. that's not true. it is all true. the rmt_ way on. that's not true. it is all true. the rmt every- all true. the rmt every word i say— all true. the rmt every word i eay te— all true. the rmt every word i eay ie ttwe. — all true. the rmt every word i say is true. rmt_ all true. the rmt every word i say is true. rmt represent a tange— say is true. rmt represent a range et— say is true. rmt represent a range et eeeete— say is true. rmt represent a range of people who work in the taiiwaye. — range of people who work in the taiiwaye. vee— range of people who work in the railways. yes, some— range of people who work in the railways. yes, some are on 2526 graha— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a yea— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grant a year aha— railways. yes, some are on 2526 grand a year and some a tiny hihetity. — grand a year and some a tiny hihetity. hwt— grand a year and some a tiny minority. but they- grand a year and some a tiny minority. siti; grand a year and some a tiny minority. t: i minority. but they are drivers. 65.the minority. but they are drivers. 65. the drivers are on 60 k plus. the drivers are not represented— plus. the drivers are not represented by- the drivers are not represented by the rmt. the tattere— represented by the rmt. the drivers have— represented by the rmt. the drivers have got— represented by the rmt. the drivers have got a different the— drivers have got a different union. the rmt_ drivers have got a different union. the rmt represent the eeeeie— union. the rmt represent the eeeete whe— union. the rmt represent the people who work— union. the rmt represent the people who work on the railways and taiiway— people who work on the railways and railway drivers— people who work on the railways and railway drivers as well. hwt— and railway drivers as well. hat the— and railway drivers as well. but the railway— and railway drivers as well. but the railway drivers- and railway drivers as well. but the railway drivers are in a union that is constantly striking. we talk about the rmt taiiway— striking. we talk about the rmt railway workers. _ striking. we talk about the rmt railway workers. you _ “3 we talk about the rmt railway workers. you listen . railway workers. you listen. ateh-t— railway workers. you listen. ateh-t we— railway workers. you listen. aren't we fed— railway workers. you listen. aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having he— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having he wett— aren't we fed up? i am fed up of having no work ing, no, not getting— having no work ing, no, not getting a— having no work ing, no, not getting a at— having no work ing, no, not getting a gp paying £400 for a

teat— getting a gp paying £400 for a teat et— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread ,_ getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread , you— getting a gp paying £400 for a loaf of bread , you know, loaf of bread, you know, tewitiet— loaf of bread, you know, terrified that— loaf of bread, you know, terrified that my rent is going to terrified that my rent is going te ge— terrified that my rent is going te ge we.— terrified that my rent is going te ge we. i— terrified that my rent is going te ge we. i ah— terrified that my rent is going to go up. i am sick to death of thie— to go up. i am sick to death of the. we— to go up. i am sick to death of the. we att— to go up. i am sick to death of this. we all are.— to go up. i am sick to death of this. we all are. and so the thing— this. we all are. and so the thihg te— this. we all are. and so the thihg ie te— this. we all are. and so the thing is, is why— this. we all are. and so the thing is, is why are we attaching— thing is, is why are we attacking each other when we thew— attacking each other when we hhew get— attacking each other when we know we've got people who are aehihg— know we've got people who are aehihg tet— know we've got people who are aehihg tet te— know we've got people who are aehihg tet ie a— know we've got people who are asking for is a pay— know we've got people who are asking for is a pay rise which witt— asking for is a pay rise which witi eeheht— asking for is a pay rise which will cement inflation into the eyeteh — will cement inflation into the eyeteh tet— will cement inflation into the system for years— will cement inflation into the system for years to come . ' “t: system for years to come. and ihttatieh— system for years to come. and ihttatieh te— system for years to come. and inflation is our— system for years to come. and inflation is our biggest problem. yes plus the national debt. who's going to pay for this? well, we well, we the hatiehai— this? well, we well, we the national debt— this? well, we well, we the national debt was- 57 well, we well, we the national debt was supposed to ti7 well, we well, we the national debt was supposed to be our national debt was supposed to be ewt-heheh— national debt was supposed to be ewt-etehieh th— national debt was supposed to be our problem in 2013, our biggest problem in 2013, zeit— our biggest problem in 2013, how. the— our biggest problem in 2013, 2011. and then— our biggest problem in 2013, 2011. and then we had austerity . thi— 2011. and then we had austerity . the what— 2011. and then we had austerity . and what has— 2011. and then we had austerity . and what has been the fallout of . and what has been the fallout et awetetitye— . and what has been the fallout of austerity? the— . and what has been the fallout of austerity? the state of the eewhtty— of austerity? the state of the eewhtty that— of austerity? the state of the country that we've now got? hang — country that we've now got? hang vea— country that we've now got? hang on. you seem- country that we've now got? hang on. you seem to- country that we've now got? hang on. you seem to forget ukraine. you seem to forget the pandemic. these are all of those things. these are all factors which— things. these are all factors which have— “gtit these are all factors which have contributed “gi these are all factors which have contributed to wetting— which have contributed to working people . working people. that's what railway are railway workers are are determined, or at least their bosses are, to ruin the lives of other working people. i live very close to epsom racecourse, right? the derby tomorrow right? it's the derby tomorrow and yet little towns around epsom where people go and stay

will lose trade hand over fist. the bars will not be full. the hotels cells are not full, the restaurants are not full because people can't get there because of the railway workers. it's a disgrace. moving on to the tetegtaeh— disgrace. moving on to the tetegtaeh .— disgrace. moving on to the telegraph , lizzie- t: gi moving on to the telegraph , lizzie zita ministers telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had telegraph, lizzie zita ministers hat eeet— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit to— telegraph, lizzie zita ministers had secret unit to kerb critics of had secret unit to kerb critics et ieehtewh. — had secret unit to kerb critics of lockdown. there's a surprise as of lockdown. there's a surprise as eh— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah, well,— of lockdown. there's a surprise as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked ahe— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified and— as oh yeah, well, i'm shocked and horrified and not, you know of and horrified and not, you know et they— and horrified and not, you know of course they had— and horrified and not, you know of course they had they wanted to of course they had they wanted te atwaye— of course they had they wanted te atwaye eweh— of course they had they wanted to always push their agenda thei— to always push their agenda theit — to always push their agenda their view. of— to always push their agenda their view. o” itit. to always push their agenda their view. o” titit to always push their agenda their view. titit “st: their view. of course they had systems in place to sort of cover up what was really happening, etcetera , to happening, etcetera, to exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate , te— exaggerate the fear. yeah. to exaggerate , to make- ti;tt

radio would speak , we would not radio would speak, we would not listen. we would not let this old world swallow up our children at one great big gulp . children at one great big gulp. now, how i remember that from school, it's edward muir poem, the horses . so listen, we the horses. so listen, we wouldn't do . yeah, but yeah. wouldn't do. yeah, but yeah. hey, i can't remember what i had for breakfast, but i remember the but yeah, i just the muir poem. but yeah, i just think that disgraceful . i think think that disgraceful. i think it is a reflection . i think. it is a reflection. i think. i think— it is a reflection. i think. i thihh the— it is a reflection. i think. i think the country- it is a reflection. i think. i think the country is- e i ithink. i think the country is in quite a reflective— think the country is in quite a reflective mood— think the country is in quite a reflective mood at the moment, aetwaiiy— reflective mood at the moment, aetwaiiy. thi— reflective mood at the moment, aetwatty. the i— reflective mood at the moment, actually. and i think we are teieehihg— actually. and i think we are teteehihg at— actually. and i think we are relooking at the— actually. and i think we are relooking at the pandemic and the lockdowns— relooking at the pandemic and the lockdowns and then the damage— the lockdowns and then the damage that— the lockdowns and then the damage that that has caused. i mean, we're having a debate and our mean, we're having a debate and atgwheht— mean, we're having a debate and our argument about— mean, we're having a debate and our argument about what's haeeehihg— our argument about what's haeeehihg th— our argument about what's happening in the economy and how eeeeie— happening in the economy and how eeeete ate— happening in the economy and how people are struggling. yeah. and the lockdowns— people are struggling. yeah. and the lockdowns were a big part of that— the lockdowns were a big part of that .— the lockdowns were a big part of that . se— the lockdowns were a big part of that . so. correct. _ the lockdowns were a big part of that . so. correct. i ' “t: that. so. correct. correct. and as the public debate those who back who thought maybe it would do more harm than good mike were demonised granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iofed granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course granny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course youranny killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were killers. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were . itzrs. do more harm than good mike were dem0iof course you were . it was yeah, of course you were. it was absolutely ridiculous. _ “43?" titit tttiiti it was absolutely ridiculous. look at the etate— absolutely ridiculous. look at the state .the _ absolutely ridiculous. look at the state the country now the state of the country now teitewihg— the state of the country now following lockdown. following the lockdown. the wetet—

following the lockdown. the worst-outcome - following the lockdown. the worst outcome of worst possible outcome of ieehtewh— worst possible outcome of lockdown are _ worst possible outcome of lockdown are all these people new-wett— lockdown are all these people now-work from - lockdown are all these people now work from home. it has now who work from home. it has etwehet—thel crushed the economy and the eith— crushed the economy and the civil servants— crushed the economy and the civil servants at— crushed the economy and the civil servants at the very top heet— civil servants at the very top are most responsible for this . are most responsible for this. the— are most responsible for this. the i— are most responsible for this. and i believe— are most responsible for this. and i believe their behaviour hae— and i believe their behaviour hae heeh— and i believe their behaviour has been disgraceful. i think thee-e— has been disgraceful. i think thete-e a— has been disgraceful. i think there's a worse— has been disgraceful. i think there's a worse actually consequence of lockdown and that is for children who have lost. ms yes. ms totally agree. children and now “ci? titit stiititi; children and now truancy has heeh— children and now truancy has been normalised. ' “t: been normalised. totally. and tet-e— been normalised. totally. and let's also remember all those children who were at risk and never made it out of the. i totally agree. yes. and also the way ite— totally agree. yes. and also the way the teen— sgiii t/titit and also the way it's been normalised, the few— way it's been normalised, the tewt hay— way it's been normalised, the tewt hay week— way it's been normalised, the four day week is— way it's been normalised, the four day week is being normalised,- four day week is being normalised, right? �*ftt�*till four day week is being— normalised, right? well, because of working from home, lizzie. hold that thought. what hold thatdthought. what were hold that thought. what were you going— hold that thought. what were you geihg te— hold that thought. what were you geihg te eaye— hold that thought. what were you geihg te eaye th— hold that thought. what were you going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. go.— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i wa— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. he. i geihg— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to— going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to say- going to say? i'm sorry, lizzie. no, i was going to say that, you know, the teenagers, was. i'm know, the teenagers, i was. i'm surrounded by teenagers, had a terrible , terrible they terrible, terrible time. they were just coming up to their gcses. it's had an effect to this day to isolate kids , to this day to isolate kids, to tell them to sit still. it's almost like it's like telling the rain not to fall . yes, it

the rain not to fall. yes, it was awful. and when they're atwtte— was awful. and when they're adults, they'll— was awful. and when they're adults, they'll be— and when they're adults, they'll be picking up the hit— adults, they'll be picking up the hiii tet— adults, they'll be picking up the bill for what i consider a hatieh— the bill for what i consider a failed experiment to stop a i— failed experiment to stop a virus. i should— failed experiment to stop a virus. i should say the government,- virus. i should say the government, the authorities wewit— government, the authorities wewtt atgwe— government, the authorities would argue that what they did iiwee. — would argue that what they did save lives. that's— would argue that what they did save lives. that's not my view. hwt— save lives. that's not my view. hwt that— save lives. that's not my view. hwt that te— save lives. that's not my view. but that is their— save lives. that's not my view. but that is their strong view. tithe— but that is their strong view. tithe patty,— but that is their strong view. tithe hairy, yew— but that is their strong view. mike parry, you just dropped a bit-bombshell— mike parry, you just dropped a bit bombshell there, bit of a bombshell there, ewggeetihg— bit of a bombshell there, suggesting that the pandemic has not normalised— suggesting that the pandemic has not normalised working from home and normalised— not normalised working from home and normalised the— not normalised working from home and normalised the four day wetting— and normalised the four day working week. _ and normalised the four day working week. so has lockdowns twthet— working week. so has lockdowns turned britain _ working week. so has lockdowns turned britain lazy— working week. so has lockdowns turned britain lazy ? �*ftt�*“s turned britain lazy? what teehtewh— turned britain lazy? what lockdown has— turned britain lazy? what lockdown has done is it's given lazy people the opportunity to be even more lazy. what is it that council in cambridgeshire that's now gone on to a four day week permanently ? that means the week permanently? that means the liberal democrat council? yeah , liberal democrat council? yeah, that spread liberal democrat council? yeah, that-spread throughout- ti “i 7 yeah, that spread throughout the that will spread throughout the eewhtty. — that will spread throughout the. eewhtty. —wety country. now. okay. but the very idea now that you should take to somebody, get your peloton, somebody, get off your peloton, which is having big financial problems by the way, is that a cocktail ? yeah. get off your cocktail? yeah. get off your peloton and get your into work . peloton and get your into work. you know, instead of your bicycle seat and get it into youn bicycle seat and get it into your, you know, the chair next to your desk at work . that has to your desk at work. that has gone forever on a five day week

bafis gone forever on a five day week basis or even a four day week basis. something else is haeeehihg— basis. something else is happening that- something else is happening that will smash the eey th— happening that will smash the economy. i'm sorry- happening that will smash the economy. and there's economy. i'm sorry. and there's eehethihg— economy. i'm sorry. and there's eehethihg eiee— economy. i'm sorry. and there's something else that's— economy. and there's something else that's happening as something else that's happening ae-the— something else that's happening ae-the-that- as well that the people that tetehy— as well that the people that tetehy-wahte- as well that the people that jeremy-wants to- as well that the people that jeremy wants to get, jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete— jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete eyei— jeremy hunt wants to get, the eeeete the— jeremy hunt wants to get, the people over the age of 55 back to people over the age of 55 back te wk,— people over the age of 55 back te weth hwt— people over the age of 55 back to work, but 61%_ people over the age of 55 back to work, but 61% of those people have — to work, but 61% of those people have eati— to work, but 61% of those people have eait eti— to work, but 61% of those people have paid off their— to work, but 61% of those people have paid off their mortgages aha— have paid off their mortgages and eete— have paid off their mortgages and eet/e et— have paid off their mortgages and 63% of them are very , very and 63% of them are very, very happy— and 63% of them are very, very haeey with— and 63% of them are very, very haeey with thei— and 63% of them are very, very happy with their investments. they— happy with their investments. they etayet — happy with their investments. they etayet at— happy with their investments. they stayed at home. they did a bit they stayed at home. they did a hit et— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening .— they stayed at home. they did a bit of gardening . they did a lot bit of gardening. they did a lot of bit of gardening. they did a lot et eeehihg— bit of gardening. they did a lot et eeehihg .— bit of gardening. they did a lot of cooking . they— bit of gardening. they did a lot of cooking . they maybe they and of cooking. they maybe they and they— of cooking. they maybe they and they thewght— of cooking. they maybe they and they thought, well, _ of cooking. they maybe they and they thought, well, is they thought, well, this is gwite—hetl they thought, well, this is. gwite—het geihg they thought, well, this is- quite_not going to quite nice. they're not going to go quite nice. they're not going to tho-to— quite nice. they're not going to ge-te-cah- quite nice. they're not going to ge-te-cahlateel quite nice. they're not going to go-to-canlalso, as| go back to work. can i also, as i go back to work. can i also, as i atwaye— go back to work. can i also, as i atwaye te— go back to work. can i also, as i always do every— go back to work. can i also, as i always do every time i'm on thie— i always do every time i'm on this programme— i always do every time i'm on this programme ,_ i always do every time i'm on this programme , let's i like to this programme, let's i like to hhhg— this programme, let's i like to hhhg-ethet— this programme, let's i like to bring-other end- this programme, let's i like to bring other end of bring the other end of it. the eeeete— bring the other end of it. the eeeeie whe— bring the other end of it. the eeeeie whe ate— bring the other end of it. the people who are working the people who are working in the supermarkets, who are supermarkets, the people who are working in the amazon warehouses and other large warehouses , and the other large warehouses, security drivers , security guards, taxi drivers, they are not getting any opportunity . they're not getting opportunity. they're not getting the opportunity to work at home or to be lazy. of course you cant— or to be lazy. of course you cant yew— or to be lazy. of course you can't you can't— or to be lazy. of course you can't you can't work- of course you can't you can't work it out. if yee— can't you can't work it out. if ye tittihg— can't you can't work it out. if you're fitting carpets in my eehthewee. — you're fitting carpets in my. penthouse. _ about penthouse. well, what about tite— penthouse. well, what about the-thie- penthouse. well, what about like,-this bad- penthouse. well, what about like, this bad news like, can i add this bad news for-penthouse- like, can i add this bad news for penthouse visitor? for mike's penthouse visitor? heeawee— for mike's penthouse visitor? because remote _ for mike's penthouse visitor? because remote work- for mike's penthouse visitor?

because remote work lifestyle to drop house prices by 10% for good. that's even worse. david miles, one of three members miles, one of the three members of obr, the office of the obr, the office for budget executive budget responsibility executive team, said he expected working from home to a permanent from home to be a permanent change that dampen house change that would dampen house price the next 3 price growth within the next 3 or 4 years. he predicted that people would further people would move further away from , lowering from city centres, lowering demand expensive properties demand for expensive properties in these areas and causing net in these areas and causing a net reduction in average level reduction in the average level of prices across the country. is that such a bad thing? no, it's not such a bad thing- ti.ti.“ itst: g“t7 no, it's not such a bad thing because the yewhget— not such a bad thing because the yewhget-witi— not such a bad thing because the younger-will have- not such a bad thing because the younger will have got younger people will have got et— younger people will have got et a— younger people will have got more of a chance— younger people will have got more of a chance of getting onto the eteeehy— more of a chance of getting onto the property ladder— more of a chance of getting onto the property ladder. a lot of buy— the property ladder. a lot of hwy-tet— the property ladder. a lot of buy let landlords have buy to let landlords have eeiiihg— buy to let landlords have eettihg eit— buy to let landlords have selling off their properties heaee— selling off their properties heaee et— selling off their properties because of the— selling off their properties because of the massive amount of tax they-we— because of the massive amount of tax they-we-hit— because of the massive amount of tax they've - hit - so - tax they've been hit with. so there-e— tax they've been hit with. so thete-e ee— tax they've been hit with. so there's more properties in the market— there's more properties in the market ee— there's more properties in the market so that— there's more properties in the market so that younger people, thet— market so that younger people, titet the— market so that younger people, first time buyers,— market so that younger people, first time buyers, there's been a ewtge— first time buyers, there's been a ewtge th— first time buyers, there's been a surge in first— first time buyers, there's been a surge in first time buyers heaee— a surge in first time buyers because it's— a surge in first time buyers because it's still cheaper to have— because it's still cheaper to hawelhettgage- because it's still cheaper to have mortgage, even with the have a mortgage, even with the ihteteet— have a mortgage, even with the interest rates— have a mortgage, even with the interest rates going up than it is interest rates going up than it ie te— interest rates going up than it ie te tent.— interest rates going up than it ie te teht. se— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in a— interest rates going up than it is to rent. so in a way , it's is to rent. so in a way, it's a geet— is to rent. so in a way, it's a geet thihg.— is to rent. so in a way, it's a good thing. listen, they went up haeeiweiy— good thing. listen, they went up massively dodi— good thing. listen, they went up massively dodi they up massively dodi they went up haeeiweiy.— massively dodi they went up massively-don't- massively dodi they went up massively. don't them massively dodi they went up- massively.-don't-them to massively. we don't need them to go massively. we don't need them to 90 up—

massively. we don't need them to ge we ayee— massively. we don't need them to ge we ye te— massively. we don't need them to go up anymore to be honest. thie— go up anymore to be honest. this-hae— go up anymore to be honest. this-has a- go up anymore to be honest. this-has a flaw.- go up anymore to be honest. j this-has a flaw. and this this story has a flaw. and the is that supply and the flaw is that supply and demand. yeah, well, there's people still this people still coming to this country. housing is going to be needed. think housing, needed. i think housing, hewehg— needed. i think housing, heweihg, yew— i: i think housing, housing, you know, needed. i think housing, housing, you know, this housing, you know, watch this eeaee — housing, you know, watch this eeaee -te - housing, you know, watch this eeaee-te he- housing, you know, watch this space. -to be the. space. it's going to be the higgeet— space. it's going to be the biggest issue— space. it's going to be the biggest issue that we have. of course , in the— biggest issue that we have. of course , in the next couple of course, in the next couple of yeae— course, in the next couple of yeate et— course, in the next couple of years. of course,— course, in the next couple of years. of course, it's time years. of course, it's a time hehh. — years. of course, it's a time bomb. iremember- years. of course, it's a timei bomb. iremember-we years. of course, it's a time- bomb.iremember-we had bird bomb. remember when we had bird flu country? you know, flu in this country? you know, i have properties that have a few properties that i rent out and i of i've sold your property is to devalue by property is going to devalue by 50. i said, why ? i said, well, 50. i said, why? i said, well, so many people are going to die of bird flu. there'll be too much. there'll be much. no, seriously, there'll be too much property in this country . and i'm afraid you're country. and i'm afraid you're ruining the housing. what are clucking a single clucking idiots? not a single person died of flu. the person died of bird flu. the housing crisis spitting- housing crisis spitting feathere— housing crisis spitting - feathers._crisis housing crisis spitting- feathers._crisis is feathers. the housing crisis is going— feathers. the housing crisis is geihglhe— feathers. the housing crisis is geihglhe ewt— feathers. the housing crisis is going be our greatest. yeah, going to be our greatest. yeah, i going to be our greatest. yeah, i gee — going to be our greatest. yeah, i gee hwt— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. but it's— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. but it's a— going to be our greatest. yeah, i agree. e i agree. but it's a failure. it is a national failure. but both the labour and the conservative government have not done what they needed to do, which is build the minimum of 350,000 houses per year. i totally agree. and now they're messing around . michael gove is messing

around. michael gove is messing around. michael gove is messing around with all of the his white paper. around with all of the his white paper . yeah, some of it is good paper. yeah, some of it is good . some of it is a lot of it's dictated, a lot of it's isn't it. well it is. it is. but you know at the end of the day 30% of select landlords have fled the marketplace that what's that going to do. it's going to put the guys for renting. it the rent up guys for renting. it is no one will is bad my policy and no one will touch it is a million council houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet— houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet . — houses. it needs to be built or aegwitet . vee.— houses. it needs to be built or acquired . yes. not- it needs to be built or acquired. t/titit \it auxig acquired. yes. not luxury for the next five years, let's say. yeah. it's probably sooner. who witt— yeah. it's probably sooner. who witt twitt— yeah. it's probably sooner. who will build them? well,- yeah. it's probably sooner. �*ftt�*“tit ii t: 7 well, who will will build them? well, who will twht— will build them? well, who will twht thehe— will build them? well, who will fund them? well— will build them? well, who will fund them? well it's— will build them? well, who will fund them? well it's not- ii t: 7 well, who will fund them? well it's not just ahewt— fund them? well it's not just ahewt whe— fund them? well it's not just about who will— fund them? well it's not just about who will fund them because i about who will fund them because i mean— about who will fund them because i the— about who will fund them because i mean the sale— about who will fund them because i mean the sale of— about who will fund them because i mean the sale of council heee — i mean the sale of council houses. that— i mean the sale of council houses. that money has been going back to central government for the last since 1980. us yeah. yeah. so agree. so local governments have not had any of that money. they haven't got any to, that money. they haven't got any a, hehey— that money. they haven't got any a, hehey te— that money. they haven't got any to, money to build— “it"tig they haven't got any to, money to build houses. now do to, money to build houses. now tie—i— to, money to build houses. now tie—i yew- to, money to build houses. now tie—i yew knowl do you know what i, you know tetay— do you know what i, you know tetaylwae— do you know what i, you know todawaas really— do you know what i, you know today was really thinking, today i was really thinking, i thewght,— today i was really thinking, i thewght, yew— today i was really thinking, i thought, you know, in the 1930 wheh— thought, you know, in the 1930 when-get— thought, you know, in the 1930 when got depression and war when we'd got depression and war and when we'd got depression and war aha—ew- when we'd got depression and war aha—ew eewheiiel and 1940s outcome, our councils hwiitihg— and 1940s outcome, our councils were building lidos_ and 1940s outcome, our councils were building lidos and schools,

iihtahee— were building lidos and schools, libraries and— were building lidos and schools, libraries and libraries because they— libraries and libraries because they prioritised— libraries and libraries because they prioritised it. tttiiti they prioritised it. how were they— they prioritised it. how were they doing that in the time of war and depression? i'll tell you why. because the welfare etate— you why. because the welfare etate hae— you why. because the welfare state has reached— because the welfare state has reached unsustainable ieweie— state has reached unsustainable ieweie aha— state has reached unsustainable levels and it's— state has reached unsustainable levels and it's very unsustainable lives beyond its means. .know,- unsustainable lives beyond its means. .know, what- unsustainable lives beyond its means. unsustainable lives beyond its- means. .know, what does one means. you know, what does one say? about one third of all local council revenues now go on pensions for people who've been working the last 20 working there for the last 20 years, a job that's not years, doing a job that's not needed to be done. so can i just say, needed to be done. so can i just eay, hew— needed to be done. so can i just eay, hew hweh— needed to be done. so can i just say, how much money— needed to be done. so can i just say, how much money are- i: : so can ijust say, how much money are they getting— say, how much money are they getting the— say, how much money are they getting the local— say, how much money are they getting the local from getting the local councils from eating — getting the local councils from eating thee— getting the local councils from eating tihee e— getting the local councils from parking fines ? yeah. really? my parking fines? yeah. really? my god— parking fines? yeah. really? my eet, hitiiehe— parking fines? yeah. really? my god, billions .— parking fines? yeah. really? my god, billions. parking fines are iwet— god, billions. parking fines are iwet tite— god, billions. parking fines are iwet tihe hew— god, billions. parking fines are just like how much are they gettihgi— just like how much are they gettihge they— just like how much are they getting? they could the getting? they could run the wheie — getting? they could run the whole country— getting? they could run the whole country on that. they eewiti— whole country on that. they could?-being- whole country on that. they- could?-being facetious whole country on that. they couldhonestly. being facetious whole country on that. they could honestly. yeah,ig facetious whole country on that. they could honestly. yeah, it'sacetious , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous— , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous. _ ’ bl” “o"estly- yeah, it's ridiculous . 4.35.“ , but honestly. yeah, it's ridiculous . / gtit ridiculous. yeah. i've got to say that know many of my say that i know many of my viewers listeners will argue viewers and listeners will argue that no point building that there's no point building more houses if you don't at some point get immigration to a sustainable level. would you agree if agree with that? because if you've got net migration of 600,000, then that puts your million council into into million council houses into into basically drop in the ocean. it's a huge problem . yeah. and it's a huge problem. yeah. and thee-e— it's a huge problem. yeah. and thete-e he— it's a huge problem. yeah. and there's no point.— it's a huge problem. yeah. and

there's no point. you- it's a huge problem. yeah. and there's no point. you can't out build immigration. no no. i mean, one of the real issues ahewt— mean, one of the real issues ahewt thie— mean, one of the real issues about this and— mean, one of the real issues about this and you know, is over the iaet— about this and you know, is over the tag, i— about this and you know, is over the last, i don't— about this and you know, is over the last, i don't know, two yeae— the last, i don't know, two yeae thtee — the last, i don't know, two years, three years, we've had a hittieh— years, three years, we've had a hittieh eeeete— years, three years, we've had a million people come in, but not anything— million people come in, but not anything eiee— million people come in, but not anything else built for not not any— anything else built for not not any infrastructure. well the etehieh— any infrastructure. well the etehteh te— any infrastructure. well the problem is no— any infrastructure. well the problem is no housing, no teetete. — problem is no housing, no doctors. we're- problem is no housing, no doctors. �*ftt�*ti ”iii: t: “g problem is no housing, no doctors. t: “g doctors. we're building the wrong sort of properties because we need houses and we keep building flats. it's as simple as that's that's what as that. that's that's what flats. what fair flats. that's what another fair eeiht—iete- flats. that's what another fair eeiht—tete et- point said. listen, lots of ehahe— point said. listen, lots of emails coming- point said. listen, lots of emails coming in on a range of ewhieete— emails coming in on a range of ewhieete .— emails coming in on a range of ewhieete . twe— emails coming in on a range of subjects . i've got— emails coming in on a range of subjects . i've got to say a very subjects. i've got to say a very big— subjects. i've got to say a very hig etety— subjects. i've got to say a very hig etety th— subjects. i've got to say a very hig etety in the— subjects. i've got to say a very big story in the sun newspaper. we-te— big story in the sun newspaper. we-te geihg— big story in the sun newspaper. we-te geihg te— big story in the sun newspaper. we're going to cover that next week.— we're going to cover that next week-teen— we're going to cover that next week. been asking, are to week. i've been asking, are to week. i've been asking, are to we hate— week. i've been asking, are to we hard-phillips- week. i've been asking, are to we hard phillips schofield? we hard on phillips schofield? itwth— we hard on phillips schofield? itwth eaye— we hard on phillips schofield? itwth eaye hi— we hard on phillips schofield? ruth says, hi, mark. i don't think— ruth says, hi, mark. i don't think yee— ruth says, hi, mark. i don't think you've been harsh on eehethih— think you've been harsh on schofield. i— think you've been harsh on schofield. i think his mayor cwiea— schofield. i think his mayor cwiea te— schofield. i think his mayor cwtea ie a— schofield. i think his mayor culpa is a desperate attempt to heee— culpa is a desperate attempt to eteee it— culpa is a desperate attempt to eteee it hewh— culpa is a desperate attempt to close it down before more unwise teiatiehehiee— close it down before more unwise relationships come— close it down before more unwise relationships come to light. close it down before more unwise relationships come to light . and relationships come to light. and itwth— relationships come to light. and itwth geee— relationships come to light. and itwth geee eh— relationships come to light. and itwth geee en te— relationships come to light. and ruth goes on to say and of course he's going to cry. homophobia— course he's going to cry. homophobia last resort of a teeeetate— homophobia last resort of a desperate man— homophobia last resort of a desperate man .— homophobia last resort of a desperate man . discrimination. desperate man. discrimination. that— desperate man. discrimination. that eit— desperate man. discrimination. that old chestnut. i pity his hethet— that old chestnut. i pity his hethet .— that old chestnut. i pity his hehe. i— that old chestnut. i pity his mother. i imagine having two tite— mother. i imagine having two sons like she— mother. i imagine having two

sons like she has— mother. i imagine having two sons like she has poor woman, itwth. — sons like she has poor woman, itwth. there— sons like she has poor woman, ruth. there you— sons like she has poor woman, ruth. there you go. not pulling yew— ruth. there you go. not pulling yewt eweehee— ruth. there you go. not pulling yewt ewhehee. i— ruth. there you go. not pulling your punches. i love getting yew— your punches. i love getting yewt ehahe— your punches. i love getting your emails. it's— your punches. i love getting your emails. it's always the teet— your emails. it's always the heet hit— your emails. it's always the heet hit et— your emails. it's always the best bit of the— your emails. it's always the best bit of the show. keep them eemhg— best bit of the show. keep them coming, margaret— best bit of the show. keep them coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next up, coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next welewhtite— coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next welewhtite witt— coming, margaret gbnews.uk. next up,-pundits will be— up, my pundits will be nominating— up, my pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and hat— nominating their headline heroes and haeh eage— nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes , plus that and back page zeroes, plus that heatiihe— and back page zeroes, plus that heatiihe th— and back page zeroes, plus that headline in the— and back page zeroes, plus that headline in the sun. phillip sehetieit— headline in the sun. phillip schofield ipsis_ headline in the sun. phillip schofield ipsis elusive i fear hehg— schofield ipsis elusive i fear heihg seat— schofield ipsis elusive i fear heihg seat — schofield ipsis elusive i fear being spat on. we'll discuss that— being spat on. we'll discuss that .—

next okay, i next- okay, well, | text- okay, well, look | text— okay, well, look , ueet— okay, well, look , more papers in okay, well, look, more papers in the eeheahy— okay, well, look, more papers in the eeheahy et— okay, well, look, more papers in the company of my— okay, well, look, more papers in the company of my top pundits. the— the company of my top pundits. the ehahe— the company of my top pundits. the emails are— the company of my top pundits. the emails are coming in thick aha— the emails are coming in thick and taet— the emails are coming in thick and taet ae— the emails are coming in thick and fast as well— the emails are coming in thick and fast as well ,_ the emails are coming in thick and fast as well, all regarding the schofield— and fast as well, all regarding the schofield story . mark dolan the schofield story. mark dolan iehight— the schofield story. mark dolan iehight ie— the schofield story. mark dolan tonight is officially offering thie— tonight is officially offering thie yewhg— tonight is officially offering this young man who's been hung, ttawh— this young man who's been hung, ttawh aha— this young man who's been hung, drawn and quartered by the eteee— drawn and quartered by the eeee hy— drawn and quartered by the press, by phillip schofield, a job press, by phillip schofield, a ieh eh— press, by phillip schofield, a ieh at that— press, by phillip schofield, a job on mark dolan tonight. i think— job on mark dolan tonight. i thihh he— job on mark dolan tonight. i think he deserves it. apparently he-e— think he deserves it. apparently he etweh— think he deserves it. apparently he etweh th— think he deserves it. apparently he's stuck in the— think he deserves it. apparently he's stuck in the north of

ihgiaht— he's stuck in the north of england pulling pints. gb news is england pulling pints. gb news ie-heet— england pulling pints. gb news is-best newsroom- england pulling pints. gb news is best newsroom in the is the best newsroom in the eewhtty.— is the best newsroom in the eewhtty. heht— is the best newsroom in the country. he'll be— is the best newsroom in the country. he'll be safe, he'll be teehet— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after and— country. he'll be safe, he'll be looked after and there'll be no twhhy—teitl looked after and there'll be no. twhhy—teii yew, funny business. let me tell you, eteeheh— funny business. let me tell you, steeheh eati— funny business. let me tell you, stephen, said mark. you'd be hettet— stephen, said mark. you'd be hettet eti— stephen, said mark. you'd be better off offering to the better off offering a job to the eee— better off offering a job to the eee they— better off offering a job to the person they sacked loose person they sacked from loose weheh—hewe- person they sacked from loose women _ move the i person they sacked from loose- women_move the young women in order to move the young -hat— man. schofield had a relationship- man. schofield had a relationship . i've got man. schofield had a- relationship-. i've got no relationship with. i've got no evidence— relationship with. i've got no evidence te— relationship with. i've got no evidence to back— relationship with. i've got no evidence to back that up, but thank— evidence to back that up, but thank yew— evidence to back that up, but thank yew tet— evidence to back that up, but thank you for your email. steeheh— thank you for your email. stephen you— thank you for your email. stephen you do wonder. don't you,— stephen you do wonder. don't yew, whether— stephen you do wonder. don't you, whether there's more to ee— you, whether there's more to tithe— you, whether there's more to come? mike you've got a nose for a etety. — come? mike you've got a nose for a etety. he— come? mike you've got a nose for a etety. he yew— come? mike you've got a nose for a story. do you think— come? mike you've got a nose for a story. do you think there's te— a story. do you think there's more to come— a story. do you think there's more to come from this schofield ttahai — more to come from this schofield ttahai wett— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as i've— more to come from this schofield drama? well, as i've already said on the show, i think this will this week the senior executives at itv are in front of commons committee. now, of a commons committee. now, you've truth you've got to tell the truth there. and it's all got to come out and those mps, when you've seen common committees, seen those common committees, they go for the jugular, they don't go for the jugular, don't so i think that will don't they? so i think that will come answer your come out. but to answer your question succinctly , there's question succinctly, there's something new coming out every day. for instance , just two days day. for instance, just two days ago, i read alison boshoff in the daily mail revealing for the first time there'd been a payoff

. there'd been a payoff. she said in her story there- t: she said in her story there to the young— said in her story there to the yewhg — said in her story there to the young man. now,- said in her story there to the young man. wtith said in her story there to the young man. with young man. now, you know, these issues, put them all together and the scandal just grows and grows, doesn't it? well it does really. the senior management there must have known. it's impossible to believe that they didn't know what was going on. this lad is one of my colleagues here has already pointed out in the show already at was the show already at 18 was actually appearing the actually appearing live on the show and he was supposed to be a runner, you know, a kid would come along to start and he goes up to pick up the award at the nta, goes up to pick up the award nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the aiasd nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the aias an nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the aias an elf nta. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the aias an elf orwita. is dressed nta, goes up to pick up the aias an elf or something.;ed nta, goes up to pick up the aias an elf or something. no way a as an elf or something. no way tasting whisky there's no way that know all of that they didn't know all of them. that's i've heard . them. that's what i've heard. thetwtihg— them. that's what i've heard. including—thinkl including holly. yeah, i think so including holly. yeah, i think ee-iieteh- including holly. yeah, i think so-listen, he- including holly. yeah, i think so-listen, he was. including holly. yeah, i think so listen, he was so so. because listen, he was so eeehiy— so. because listen, he was so openly affectionate with the guy . yeah.— openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera._ openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera. as— openly affectionate with the guy . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you heht— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you teh-t eeh— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you teh-t eett et— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you don't sort of say,— . yeah. etcetera. as i said, you don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh,— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh hee— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh he-e ie— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh, he's 18 now.— don't sort of say, oh, is he 18? oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to etat— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to etatt the— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to start the affair.— oh, he's 18 now. i'm going to start the affair. there was a haehetety— start the affair. there was a haehetety te— start the affair. there was a backstory to it.— start the affair. there was a backstory to it. what about the hehhg— backstory to it. what about the meaning eati— backstory to it. what about the morning cab? and— backstory to it. what about the morning cab? and also i'd like to morning cab? and also i'd like te eay— morning cab? and also i'd like te eay that— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's not— morning cab? and also i'd like to say that it's not just about thithe— to say that it's not just about phillip schofield _ to say that it's not just about phillip schofield field. it's

ahewt— phillip schofield field. it's ahewt aha— phillip schofield field. it's about and let's— phillip schofield field. it's about and let's be very clear, the— about and let's be very clear, the producers— about and let's be very clear, the producers that allowed this atheeehete— the producers that allowed this atmosphere of— the producers that allowed this atmosphere of absolute bullying , tytahhy— atmosphere of absolute bullying .eyanny ahe— atmosphere of absolute bullying , tyranny and tyranny to take etaee— , tyranny and tyranny to take etaee aha— , tyranny and tyranny to take etaee and they— , tyranny and tyranny to take place and they got rid of all theee— place and they got rid of all theee teaiiy— place and they got rid of all those really good people. well, it wae— those really good people. well, it very— those really good people. well, it was very worrying when eehethih— it was very worrying when schofield said— it was very worrying when schofield said to the bbc that there— schofield said to the bbc that thete ie— schofield said to the bbc that thete ie he— schofield said to the bbc that there is no culture of bullying on there is no culture of bullying at the— there is no culture of bullying at the ehew— there is no culture of bullying on the show because it's an open eeet — on the show because it's an open eeet thee— on the show because it's an open secret. there is,— on the show because it's an open secret. there is, and— on the show because it's an open secret. there is, and therefore it makes you question everything. he said . yeah, i everything. he said. yeah, i think like a meghan markle moment , think like a meghan markle moment, isn't it? i think what eethaee— moment, isn't it? i think what eethaee ie— moment, isn't it? i think what perhaps is happening- e c7 ithink what perhaps is happening is people hate— perhaps is happening is people teatiee that— perhaps is happening is people realise that this— perhaps is happening is people realise that this sort of stuff haeeehe— realise that this sort of stuff haeeehe ahe— realise that this sort of stuff happens and they just thinking ahewt— happens and they just thinking ahewt the— happens and they just thinking about the jemmy savile stuff and the way— about the jemmy savile stuff and the way that— about the jemmy savile stuff and the way that everyone knew about that and — the way that everyone knew about that and everybody— the way that everyone knew about that and everybody went, oh yeah— that and everybody went, oh yeah wett— that and everybody went, oh yeah weii we— that and everybody went, oh yeah, well we didn't say because he tith-t— yeah, well we didn't say because he tith-t eay. — yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and— yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and i— yeah, well we didn't say because he didn't say. and i think the eewhtty— he didn't say. and i think the eewhtty ie— he didn't say. and i think the country is probably now thinking— country is probably now thinking, hang on a minute , are thinking, hang on a minute, are they— thinking, hang on a minute, are they hehg— thinking, hang on a minute, are they teihg iti— thinking, hang on a minute, are they doing it? you— thinking, hang on a minute, are they doing it? you know, is this is they doing it? you know, is this ie thie— they doing it? you know, is this is this another— they doing it? you know, is this is this another one— they doing it? you know, is this is this another one of those hehehtei— is this another one of those moments? daniel moments? yeah but daniel wants to moments? yeah but daniel wants te—eait— moments? yeah but daniel wants te—eait tet- moments? yeah but daniel wants te—eait tet the- to know, was he paid for the interview— to know, was he paid for the interview eh— to know, was he paid for the interview on the— to know, was he paid for the interview on the board? “ interview on the board? the sun ? interview on the board? the sun e-whtetetaht.— interview on the board? the sun ? understand, daniel, that ? and i understand, daniel, that he now. but also, he was not paid now. but also, you know, he was not paid now. but also,

yew thew, eeeeie— he was not paid now. but also, you know, people in— he was not paid now. but also, you know, people in that- you know, people in that eitwatieh— you know, people in that situation who _ you know, people in that situation who are working at he.— situation who are working at .ey, heht— situation who are working at itv, don't forget— situation who are working at itv, don't forget it's their hehe— itv, don't forget it's their iehe eh— itv, don't forget it's their iehe at the— itv, don't forget it's their jobs on the line. they're thghtehet— jobs on the line. they're frightened after that huge cull haeeehet— frightened after that huge cull haeeehet aha— frightened after that huge cull happened and they're frightened for happened and they're frightened tet thei— happened and they're frightened tet theit hehe.— happened and they're frightened for their jobs. they're self eheteyet— for their jobs. they're self eheteyet .— for their jobs. they're self employed . and when you're employed. and when you're self—employed— employed. and when you're self—employed and a lot of them and a— self—employed and a lot of them and a tet— self—employed and a lot of them and a tet et— self—employed and a lot of them and a lot of them— self—employed and a lot of them and a lot of them were on staff , sot— and a lot of them were on staff , yew— and a lot of them were on staff , yew thew,— and a lot of them were on staff , so, you know, i've— and a lot of them were on staff , so, you know, i've already eati— , so, you know, i've already eait they— , so, you know, i've already said they changed the job title to said they changed the job title te — said they changed the job title te eeeete— said they changed the job title to move people sideways and to get ht— to move people sideways and to get ht et— to move people sideways and to get rid of them.— to move people sideways and to get rid of them. it's appalling hehawiewt— get rid of them. it's appalling hehawiewt. — get rid of them. it's appalling behaviour. “g behaviour. speaking of outrageous, caroline outrageous, by the way, caroline flack's done an flack's mother has done an interview bbc about the interview with the bbc about the controversy over philip schofield's affair with a younger colleague , and his younger male colleague, and his comments concerned comments last night concerned his her daughter. caroline flack says the broadcaster hasn't learned from its mistakes surrounding her daughter's death and says on screen, talent must be protected. take a listen. oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anything.— oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anything. they— oh, no, no, they haven't learnt anything. they haven't . “tiyt anything. they haven't. they weat— anything. they haven't. they tteat them— anything. they haven't. they treat them as— anything. they haven't. they treat them as commodities. and i know it's a lovely job and i know it's a lovely job and i know they earn money. but also the television stations that earn money from them and but they're not commodities. they're

people. and they're employed. and if my employee didn't take care of me, there'd be all hell to pay . but what do you think, to pay. but what do you think, heee,— to pay. but what do you think, meg, ahewt— to pay. but what do you think, mike, about the _ to pay. but what do you think, mike, about the fact- but what do you think, mike, about the fact that ihiiiie — mike, about the fact that phillip schofield invoked the hehety— phillip schofield invoked the hehety et— phillip schofield invoked the memory of caroline flack , who memory of caroline flack, who teet— memory of caroline flack, who teeh het— memory of caroline flack, who took her life— memory of caroline flack, who took her life because of media eeeewe — took her life because of media pressure? well,— took her life because of media pressure? well, she- took her life because of media pressure? well, she took her life because of the situation in which she found herself. she'd been suspended from her job been suspended from herjob because of a public spat. you know, or spat that became public court domestic abuse court case, domestic abuse allegations and all this kind of stuff, but i think stuff, you know, but i think that's i think that's getting right down and dirty. i think when you're trying to protect your reputation, when you your own reputation, when you invoke the tragic death of a colleague in the same business by insinuating, you know , if by insinuating, you know, if people don't stop criticising me , you know, i could go the same way as caroline flack. and the other thing i thought, which wasn't terribly, um , tasteful, wasn't terribly, um, tasteful, wasn't terribly, um, tasteful, was saying that without his two daughters, two grown up daughters, two grown up daughters, he wouldn't be here. i mean, you know , what sort of i mean, you know, what sort of pressure is that putting on his

daughters? so the only thing keeping your father alive is the fact you you're here fact that, you know, you're here to him and we haven't to support him and we haven't heard one word or or one voice for phillip schofield's wife. have we? not? one word. no one. the real victim. you know what he ie. — the real victim. you know what he is. and also, you know, to live with a guy for all that time. and then he came out as gay, maybe she knew. and they had an arrangement. but i felt so sorry for her. and also the girls, the two daughters. i mean, what he's done to his family during all this time is unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well,— unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well, let's— unspeakable. really it's a real shocker. well, let's get- i. t it's a real shocker. well, let's get now to yew— shocker. well, let's get now to your nomination— shocker. well, let's get now to your nomination for headline hee— your nomination for headline he ahe— your nomination for headline heroes and back— your nomination for headline heroes and back page zeros. and i heroes and back page zeros. and i wehett— heroes and back page zeros. and i wehett it— heroes and back page zeros. and i wonder if schofield is a zero or i wonder if schofield is a zero eta hete— i wonder if schofield is a zero or a hero who— i wonder if schofield is a zero or a hero who have you got for he— or a hero who have you got for me as your hero?— or a hero who have you got for me as your hero? hero people who wett— me as your hero? hero people who weth th— me as your hero? hero people who work in chip shops, everybody who works in a chip. hooray! and they work late and they do a heat— and they work late and they do a gteat ieh— and they work late and they do a gteat ieh aha— and they work late and they do a great job and they— and they work late and they do a great job and they keep and great job and they keep us and it's great job and they keep us and it-elgteat— great job and they keep us and it'slgreat product— great job and they keep us and it's great product and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: at product and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: roduct and we love great job and they keep us and it's '“t: e tit“and we love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: e ve love great job and they keep us and it's ' “t: e �*7 ti.“yve it. and the british love fish and chips and it helped us win the war. fish yeah, and also ietiee— the war. fish yeah, and also tetiee iewe— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it.— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. _ the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. i— the war. fish yeah, and also tories love it. i grew- fish yeah, and also

tories love it. 3 i. tories love it. i grew up over fish chip shop. my parents fish and chip shop. my parents had a fish and chip shop. well, you up and chip you turned up fish and chip eheee—at- you turned up fish and chip eheee—at ah- you turned up fish and chip- shops_at an enormous shops are closing at an enormous tate— shops are closing at an enormous tate heaee— shops are closing at an enormous rate because they— shops are closing at an enormous rate because they cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit.se they cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now ay cannot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now the annot make shops are closing at an enormous rate profit. now the government any profit. now the government hwet—hew- any profit. now the governmenti hwet—hewlyew must have oil briefly now if you can-nominate— must have oil briefly now if you can nominate headline can just nominate your headline he — can just nominate your headline he iahehh— can just nominate your headline heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn hehhee.— heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn heihee. iahehh— heroes. eamonn. eamonn. eamonn holmes. eamonn being— heroes. eamonn. eamonn holmes. eamonn being heroic for hehg— holmes. eamonn being heroic for heihg ee— holmes. eamonn being heroic for heihg ee .— holmes. eamonn being heroic for heihg ee , ee— holmes. eamonn being heroic for being so , so honest— holmes. eamonn being heroic for being so , so honest every thing being so, so honest every thing he eati— being so, so honest every thing he eait i— being so, so honest every thing he said i know— being so, so honest every thing he said i know personally ewetythihg— he said i know personally everything he— he said i know personally everything he said was true. and ahee— everything he said was true. and atee tet— everything he said was true. and also for speaking— everything he said was true. and also for speaking up for the whtetteg. — also for speaking up for the underdog. well— also for speaking up for the underdog. �*vhtiii t: also for speaking up for the underdog. �*vhtiii ii iii underdog. well said. mike, briefly if you can, your headune briefly if you can, your headline hero. my hero is hteteeeet— headline hero. my hero is professor kathleen- : titit my hero is professor kathleen stock. she went— professor kathleen stock. she went te— professor kathleen stock. she went te the— professor kathleen stock. she went to the oxford union and she haeee— went to the oxford union and she taeet hewh— went to the oxford union and she taeet tewh a— went to the oxford union and she faced down a mob— went to the oxford union and she faced down a mob of between 3 or too— faced down a mob of between 3 or the eeeeie— faced down a mob of between 3 or the eeeete whe— faced down a mob of between 3 or 400 people who basically object to 400 people who basically object te het— 400 people who basically object te het hehg— 400 people who basically object to her being there— 400 people who basically object to her being there because she hae— to her being there because she hae a— to her being there because she has a different— to her being there because she has a different point of view in life has a different point of view in the te— has a different point of view in the te the— has a different point of view in life to the one— has a different point of view in life to the one they have. and thie— life to the one they have. and thie ie— life to the one they have. and thie ie ee— life to the one they have. and this is one of— life to the one they have. and this is one of our— life to the one they have. and this is one of our top universities- this is one of our top universities ,- this is one of our top universities , too, right? universities, too, right? iettihie— universities, too, right? terrible. right.- universities, too, right? terrible. right. - universities, too, right? right. �*vhtiii universities, too, right? - terrible. right. well, names only. now you're back. page zero. nadine zahawi zahawi. he just gets on my nerves, w: he just gets on my nerves, okay? heh— just gets on my nerves, okay? he-e haeeehihg— just gets on my nerves, okay? he's supporting getting- just gets on my nerves, okay? he's supporting getting rid of inheritance tax . yeah, that's inheritance tax. yeah, that's the— inheritance tax. yeah, that's the ehiy— inheritance tax. yeah, that's the ehty thihg— inheritance tax. yeah, that's the only thing he— ““i i isx yeah, that's the only thing he does is try aha— the only thing he does is try and the— the only thing he does is try and line his— the only thing he does is try and line his pockets .

and line his pockets. okay, hehe.— and line his pockets. okay, lizzie, briefly,— and line his pockets. okay, lizzie, briefly, if you can, your back. page zero, putin's russia for taking 19,000 ukrainian children and kidnapping them basically , and kidnapping them basically, and taking them into monster mike year zero your back page zero football managerjose mourinho football manager jose mourinho for bullying a referee who made a couple of decisions in a match that went against jose's team. utterly disgraceful. outrageous. - utterly disgraceful. outrageous. can- utterly disgraceful. outrageous. can i thank my fabulous pundits tonight? i think you'll agree they did a brilliant job. they will be back soon. i agree. thanks my team soon. i agree. thanks to my team as working so hard as well for working so hard today. and most importantly to you this show you for your company. this show is without you. i'm back is nothing without you. i'm back tomorrow 9:00 11, so tomorrow from 9:00 till 11, so do us then. headliners is do join us then. headliners is next. see you tomorrow .

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