and sprinkle of socialist sugar and back— sprinkle of socialist sugar and back by— sprinkle of socialist sugar and back by bbbbbbr— sprinkle of socialist sugar and back by popular demand. it's bbbbcb— back by popular demand. it's patrick christys_ back by popular demand. it's patrick christys . back by popular demand. it's patrick christys. c back by popular demand. it's patrick christys . c patrick christys. love it. the premise of the show is simple. every week the same. tonight, each host gets 60s to outline their argument about their chosen topic , and then we all chosen topic, and then we all pile in. and of course, we want to know your views as well. please do get in touch throughout the show by emailing gbviews@gbnews.uk. but before we all other all start tearing each other apart at it is your saturday night bethany elsey . night news with bethany elsey. good evening. i'm bethany elsey wbbb— good evening. i'm bethany elsey wbbb your— good evening. i'm bethany elsey wbbb your bob— good evening. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb with your top stories from the bb newsroom— with your top stories from the gb newsroom ._ with your top stories from the gb newsroom . the prime minister, gb newsroom. the prime minister, bbbb— gb newsroom. the prime minister, bbbb subbb— gb newsroom. the prime minister, rishi sunak and— gb newsroom. the prime minister, rishi sunak and other international leaders have expressed— international leaders have expressed their condolences aber— expressed their condolences after india's— expressed their condolences after india's worst rail bbbsber— after india's worst rail disaster for- after india's worst rail disaster for decades. at least 288— disaster for decades. at least 288 bebbbe— disaster for decades. at least 288 people have— disaster for decades. at least 288 people have been killed and around— 288 people have been killed and around obo— 288 people have been killed and around 850 injured in the moon— around 850 injured in the accident in— around 850 injured in the accident in the- around 850 injured in the accident in the eastern state of mono— accident in the eastern state of borono .— accident in the eastern state of odisha . three— accident in the eastern state of odisha . three trains were odisha. three trains were bnvobob— odisha. three trains were bnvobob .— odisha. three trains were involved . two- odisha. three trains were involved . two passenger trains involved. two passenger trains oobbbob— involved. two passenger trains collided when— involved. two passenger trains collided when one derailed, and born— collided when one derailed, and born bnon— collided when one derailed, and both then crashed— collided when one derailed, and

both then crashed into a goods born— both then crashed into a goods brobn .— both then crashed into a goods brobn . nob-o— both then crashed into a goods train . india's prime minister train. india's prime minister boronbro— train. india's prime minister narendra modi— train. india's prime minister narendra modi has vowed to bbnbn— narendra modi has vowed to bbnbon ononoy— narendra modi has vowed to punish anyone responsible. i sobb— punish anyone responsible. i sorbo bobb— punish anyone responsible. i sajid javid nana. : sajid javid nana. i am deeply pained. sajid javid nana. i am deeply pobnob. n-o— sajid javid nana. i am deeply pained. it's beyond- sajid javid nana. : “in: it's beyond sad and very pained. it's beyond sad and very bbbbrbbng— pained. it's beyond sad and very bbbbrbbng .— pained. it's beyond sad and very disturbing . the— “in: it's beyond sad and very disturbing . the government will disturbing. the government will boovo— disturbing. the government will boovo no— disturbing. the government will leave no stone— disturbing. the government will leave no stone unturned and will brovbbo— leave no stone unturned and will provide no— leave no stone unturned and will provide the best— leave no stone unturned and will provide the best treatment to the provide the best treatment to no boobbo — provide the best treatment to the people who've been injured, the people who've been injured, the relatives— the people who've been injured, the relatives who— the people who've been injured, the relatives who we've lost con-b— the relatives who we've lost can't come back— the relatives who we've lost can't come back . but the can't come back. but the governmen— can't come back. but the government is- can't come back. but the government is with their bonbboo— government is with their families in— government is with their families in this hour of grief. 31 families in this hour of grief. or boome— families in this hour of grief. or poopbo boro— families in this hour of grief. 31 people have been- families in this hour of grief. 3 " families in this hour of grief. 31 people have been arrested in connection with plans to disrupt the epsom derby, including one protester who ran on to the track as the race began. actor buddhists from the group animal rising had threatened to cancel the event despite a high court injunction banning them from doing so. the group said they wanted to protect the horses and were willing to put their bodies on the line. they also accused police of heavy handed ness and abusing their powers as a woman in her 70s has died following a dog attack in warwickshire . the

dog attack in warwickshire. the incident took place on kathleen avenue in bedworth yesterday afternoon when a man and a woman have been arrested on suspicion of having a dangerously out—of—control dog and owning a banned breed . and manchester banned breed. and manchester city have beaten manchester united 2—1 to win the fa cup final at wembley. ilkay gundogan scored after 12 seconds. that's the fastest goal in fa cup final history . united's bruno history. united's bruno fernandes equalised scoring a penalty at 33 minutes, but gundogan scored another to restore city's lead in the second half. city is now on course to complete the treble , course to complete the treble, winning the premier league fa cup and champions league in the same season, which takes place next saturday. here's some fan reaction on two out of three, we're going to do the treble. we're going to take it from bnon. — we're going to take it from bnon. anor— we're going to take it from them. after a— we're going to take it from them. after a whole history of non— them. after a whole history of hm ,— them. after a whole history of non , roo— them. after a whole history of non , boo obo— them. after a whole history of hurt , 100 odd years of them hurt, 100 odd years of them bong— hurt,100 odd years of them being on— hurt,100 odd years of them being all over— hurt, 100 odd years of them being all over us. but this this is or— being all over us. but this this is yoor. — being all over us. but this this is our year. this— being all over us. but this this is our year. this is— being all over us. but this this is our year. this is our time.

brot— is our year. this is our time. rbrsb gobb— is our year. this is our time. rbrob gonb. b.— is our year. this is our time. first goal, 15, 13— is our year. this is our time. first goal, 15, 13 seconds. - is our year. this is our time. first goal, 15, 13 seconds. 15 seconds. you know , i've just seconds. you know, i've just lost for words. lost for words, a lost for words. lost for words, o bn— lost for words. lost for words, o bbb nor-boron— lost for words. lost for words, a bit dejected and— : lost for words, a bit dejected and living in obno— a bit dejected and living in cities shattered— a bit dejected and living in cities shattered last 4 or 5 year— cities shattered last 4 or 5 year. no— cities shattered last 4 or 5 years. it's obviously not what we years. it's obviously not what no nonn— years. it's obviously not what we wont, bub— years. it's obviously not what we want, but probably what's exponen— we want, but probably what's oxpoorob. n— we want, but probably what's expected. in all— we want, but probably what's expected. in all in all honesty boon.— expected. in all in all honesty boon. a— expected. in all in all honesty boon. a bn— expected. in all in all honesty boon. a bn or— expected. in all in all honesty , yeah. a bit of a— expected. in all in all honesty , yeah. a bit of a reality check for unten— , yeah. a bit of a reality check for united. you're— , yeah. a bit of a reality check for united. you're up to date on tv for united. you're up to date on rv onbno— for united. you're up to date on tv online dab+_ for united. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune bn. — tv online dab+ radio and on tune bn. rbb— tv online dab+ radio and on tune bn. rbb b— tv online dab+ radio and on tune bn. rbb b on— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news.— tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now- tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. "5 c15 \ wm" in. this is gb news. now it's back to the . back to the. saturday five. it is saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm emily carver, and i can- an? �*" i'm emily carver, and i can promise bnob— emily carver, and i can promise not you— emily carver, and i can promise not you ore— emily carver, and i can promise no you bn— emily carver, and i can promise that you are in for— emily carver, and i can promise that you are in for a very booby— that you are in for a very booby nonr— that you are in for a very lively hour. so- that you are in for a very lively hour. so let's crack on nibb— lively hour. so let's crack on with tonight's— lively hour. so let's crack on with tonight's first debate to non— with tonight's first debate to non bnbngo— with tonight's first debate to kick things off. _ with tonight's first debate to kick things off. c can e�*r: kick things off. it's emily, and she's going to tell us what she thinks about the bbc's latest decision to give teenage tiktok terror a platform. on newsnight

. it's terror a platform. on newsnight .wsfime terror a platform. on newsnight . it's time for the carver palaver. it is indeed so . the palaver. it is indeed so. the nobnor— palaver. it is indeed so. the nobnor or— palaver. it is indeed so. the mother of tiktok— it is indeed so. the mother of tiktok prankster or the internet's_ mother of tiktok prankster or the internet's favourite juvenile— the internet's favourite juvenile delinquent, has broken her juvenile delinquent, has broken nor bronco.— juvenile delinquent, has broken her silence. she— juvenile delinquent, has broken her silence. she says she's had onobgn— her silence. she says she's had onobgn or— her silence. she says she's had onobgn or no— her silence. she says she's had enough of his antics and does nob— enough of his antics and does nor subbon— enough of his antics and does not support what— enough of his antics and does not support what he's doing now . i not support what he's doing now . r con-b— not support what he's doing now . i can't comment— not support what he's doing now . i can't comment on her as a boron,— . i can't comment on her as a parent, bub— . i can't comment on her as a parent, bub r— . i can't comment on her as a parent, but i think— . i can't comment on her as a parent, but i think we can all agree— parent, but i think we can all agree obn— parent, but i think we can all agree with her— parent, but i think we can all agree with her claim that her noobo bo— agree with her claim that her son needs to get— agree with her claim that her son needs to get a job. kyiv abboronrby,— son needs to get a job. kyiv apparently, though, our tax payer— apparently, though, our tax boyorrbnoob— apparently, though, our tax payer funded broadcaster payer funded state broadcaster has payer funded state broadcaster nos-obon— payer funded state broadcaster has-given mizzi- payer funded state broadcaster has-given mizzi a- payer funded state broadcaster has given mizzi a job. has already given mizzi a job. according— has already given mizzi a job. aooorbbno bo— has already given mizzi a job. according to a— has already given mizzi a job. according to a rather bizarre obnorbob— according to a rather bizarre editorial decision by the bbc bononbgnb— editorial decision by the bbc newsnight team , the tag wearing newsnight team, the tag wearing orbnbnob— newsnight team, the tag wearing criminal appears— newsnight team, the tag wearing criminal appears now to be some obno— criminal appears now to be some kind or— criminal appears now to be some kind or soon— criminal appears now to be some kind of social commentator or representative— kind of social commentator or representative of— kind of social commentator or representative of diouf, someone the representative of diouf, someone be bbc— representative of diouf, someone no one nonb— representative of diouf, someone the bbc must think is worth bobonbno— the bbc must think is worth bobonbng bo. — the bbc must think is worth listening to. why else would bnoy— listening to. why else would bnoy groo— listening to. why else would bnoy give nbn— listening to. why else would they give him a— listening to. why else would they give him a platform .7 what they give him a platform? what a borrbbb— they give him a platform? what a borrbbby sob— they give him a platform? what a terribly sad indictment of the bone— terribly sad indictment of the obobo or— terribly sad indictment of the obobo or or— terribly sad indictment of the state of our society . so let's state of our society. so let's nonn— state of our society. so let's boron o— state of our society. so let's boron o bn— state of our society. so let's watch a bit of— state of our society. so let's watch a bit of this surreal bnbornon. — watch a bit of this surreal interview. it's- watch a bit of this surreal interview. c grin interview. it's got that confidence in a way, in a different way. i want to talk to you about some of the things that has said, and i that andrew tate has said, and i wonder if you think it's problem tactic into with them . tactic to get into with them.

so, know, so, for example, you know, things he said, you women things he said, you know, women belong to men on a plane . belong to men on a plane. there's a female pilot. i noficed there's a female pilot. i noticed most women can't even drive . he said, you know, i go drive. he said, you know, i go out and i f somebody. i come home to my woman. that's not cheating. that's exercise. and this last one here, if i caught a woman cheating, it's bang out the machete boom in her face. grip her by the neck. that is hate speak presumably you don't go along with that kind of speak. of course i don't go along with that. i don't look up to along with that. i don't look up bo andrew— along with that. i don't look up to andrew taylor.— along with that. i don't look up to andrew taylor. i— along with that. i don't look up to andrew taylor. i don't- g i don't look up to andrew taylor. i don't think nob— to andrew taylor. i don't think no-o o— to andrew taylor. i don't think no-o o robo— to andrew taylor. i don't think he's a role model— to andrew taylor. i don't think he's a role model or anything. and— he's a role model or anything. no r— he's a role model or anything. no r non-b— he's a role model or anything. and i don't-to- he's a role model or anything. and i don't to nobody. and i don't look up to nobody. i am and i don't look up to nobody. i on no— and i don't look up to nobody. i on my on— and i don't look up to nobody. i am my own person.— and i don't look up to nobody. i am my own person. everyone so as you rubb— am my own person. everyone so as you just on— am my own person. everyone so as you run .— am my own person. everyone so as you run . bro— am my own person. everyone so as you just saw , the bbc— am my own person. everyone so as you just saw , the bbc is- am my own person. everyone so as you just saw , the bbc is now you just saw, the bbc is now seriously asking a bloke who gets his from trespassing gets his kicks from trespassing into people's homes, intimidating women and targeting orthodox people for orthodox jewish people for clicks. he thinks about clicks. what he thinks about andrew tate, a misogynist who's under house arrest in romania. so so we're supposed to care about what reprobate mizzi, whose claim to fame is whose only claim to fame is being absolute it seems, being an absolute it seems, thinks about andrew tate. i certainly don't. and judging by

missy's body language tone and his responses as he has absolutely no idea why the bbc cares either. let's take a look . no, no, no. that doesn't monor— . no, no, no. that doesn't nonor bo— . no, no, no. that doesn't matter to me.— no, no, no. that doesn't matter to me. i'm not for here andrew— matter to me. i'm not for here andrew robo- — matter to me. i'm not for here andrew tate. i'm— matter to me. i'm not for here andrew tate. i'm not here to redon— andrew tate. i'm not here to noon andrew— andrew tate. i'm not here to report andrew tate. i'm not here to report andrew tate. i'm not here do nobo— report andrew tate. i'm not here do more money— report andrew tate. i'm not here to make money out— report andrew tate. i'm not here to make money out of andrew report andrew tate. i'm not here to mrthat's ney out of andrew report andrew tate. i'm not here to mrthat's what ut of andrew report andrew tate. i'm not here to mrthat's what youf andrew report andrew tate. i'm not here to mrthat's what you are drew report andrew tate. i'm not here to mrthat's what you are doing? tate. that's what you are doing? boondo— tate. that's what you are doing? basically..that's_ tate. that's what you are doing? basically. that's what realistically, that's what your— realistically, that's what you-ro-no- realistically, that's what you're no but. realistically, that's what. you're-no but. no, realistically, that's what- you're-no but. no, but you're doing. no but. no, but bub— you're doing. no but. no, but no, no, but yeah, i. well, there you're doing. no but. no, but no, go. jt yeah, i. well, there you're doing. no but. no, but no, go. it yeah, i. well, there you're doing. no but. no, but no, go. it wasi, i. well, there you're doing. no but. \rt:r gt: it was badfid�*rtgt g�*rtrrt; you're doing. no but. \rt: gt: it was bad enoughfirt; you're doing. no but. \rt:r gt: it was bad enough when you go. it was bad enough when non— you go. it was bad enough when non-dove— you go. it was bad enough when non-dove rno- gt: it was bad enough when piers gave the teenage piers morgan gave the teenage dood— piers morgan gave the teenage road—dds— piers morgan gave the teenage toad—it's doubly. piers morgan gave the teenage toad it's doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad it's it's doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad it's our it's doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad it's our state s doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad it's our state broadcaster, when it's our state broadcaster, obo— when it's our state broadcaster, bbc.—oubbooodl when it's our state broadcaster, bbc.—oubboood roi when it's our state broadcaster,- bbc._supposed to be bbc. newsnight is supposed to be the bbc. newsnight is supposed to be rno—rnor— bbc. newsnight is supposed to be the—that makes- the type of show that makes bobddono— the type of show that makes politicians quiver, puts experts to politicians quiver, puts experts bo-oobo— politicians quiver, puts experts ro-oobo rno- politicians quiver, puts experts to asks the biggest to task and asks the biggest duoodono— to task and asks the biggest duoorrono or— to task and asks the biggest questions of the— to task and asks the biggest questions of the day. is anyone boobrnd— questions of the day. is anyone roobrng brook?— questions of the day. is anyone keeping track? in— questions of the day. is anyone keeping track? in my book? this has keeping track? in my book? this nos dor— keeping track? in my book? this nos dob ro— keeping track? in my book? this nos gob do be— keeping track? in my book? this nos gob ro bo o— keeping track? in my book? this has got to be a new low for the broodoooror. — has got to be a new low for the broadcaster. well— has got to be a new low for the broadcaster. well there we go to my wonderfu— broadcaster. well there we go to my wonderful panel . let's start my wonderful panel. let's start off my wonderful panel. let's start on by— my wonderful panel. let's start on by asking— my wonderful panel. let's start on by asking :— my wonderful panel. let's start off by asking , why do you think off by asking, why do you think the off by asking, why do you think no bbc— off by asking, why do you think do one dd— off by asking, why do you think the bbc did this?— off by asking, why do you think the bbc did this? dara i think it's the bbc did this? dara i think dds ddudry— the bbc did this? dara i think it's actually really dangerous that it's actually given people an incentive to do what messi did because actually they think, oh, i'll get on bbc newsnight. that's canny. mother will be very proud of me if i do that. i

think ultimately the bbc are trying to appeal to a younger audience and they think by getting someone that's had success, i can use that word success, if i can use that word on tiktok , that actually they'll on tiktok, that actually they'll cater to a brand new audience when actually they're just making themselves look like total. making themselves look like total . if i can say what's the total. if i can say what's the value of it? i mean, you might as value of it? i mean, you might on word— value of it? i mean, you might do nob rubr— value of it? i mean, you might as well just do— value of it? i mean, you might as well just do a— value of it? i mean, you might as well just do a show- t?’ i mean, you might as well just do a show where you ask as well just do a show where you dob-bo— as well just do a show where you dob-do do— as well just do a show where you dob-do do o— as well just do a show where you ask-to do a sudoku.- ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. i unobs— ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. i mean, what's the _ ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. i mean, what's the what's the porn— mean, what's the what's the bornr-rodryd- mean, what's the what's the point-really? i- mean, what's the what's the. point-really? i-up point of it, really? i mean, up nonr— point of it, really? i mean, up noxrlrdboy-o— point of it, really? i mean, up next-missy's view- point of it, really? i mean, up next missy's view on the iraq next is missy's view on the iraq r— next is missy's view on the iraq r uno— next is missy's view on the iraq war. i mean, who cares? i mean, we war. i mean, who cares? i mean, uo—nrnuroo. war. i mean, who cares? i mean, wornrnuo—r buri we hear every two minutes, but we hear every two minutes, but bro—sonne- we need public service broadcasting. we need public service- broadcasting. -is this public broadcasting. how is this public service broadcasting not going broadcasting. how is this public se sayt broadcasting not going broadcasting. how is this public se say he oadcasting not going broadcasting. how is this public se say he wasn'tting not going broadcasting. how is this public se say he wasn't as] not going broadcasting. how is this public se say he wasn't as you going broadcasting. how is this public se say he wasn't as you say,ig to say he wasn't as you say, piers morgan did it as well. i mean, ratings, mean, terrestrial ratings, bonrourorry— mean, terrestrial ratings, particularly bbc are particularly the bbc, are froggrng— particularly the bbc, are flagging aren't particularly the bbc, are flagging-aren't as flagging it, but aren't there as worr— flagging it, but aren't there as nob-ny— flagging it, but aren't there as norrlrrv. r— flagging it, but aren't there as well-itv. i mean,- flagging it, but aren't there as well itv. i mean, there's well as itv. i mean, there's rubr— well as itv. i mean, there's just snook— well as itv. i mean, there's just shock-surely- well as itv. i mean, there's just shock surely that's just shock value, surely that's all just shock value, surely that's orb-bub— just shock value, surely that's orb-bub do — just shock value, surely that's orb-bub do you- just shock value, surely that's all-but do you find- just shock value, surely that's all-but do you find it. all it is. but do you find it depressing, aaron, it is depressing, aaron, that it is our broadcaster that is our state broadcaster that is doing one cares what, doing this? no one cares what, you privately you know, privately owned companies to broadcast, companies choose to broadcast, but this is something we all pay into. is it supposed to have higher standards ? i think it's higher standards? i think it's meant ro— higher standards? i think it's meant to have— higher standards? i think it's meant to have higher- i grit 33“ i think it's meant to have higher standards i grit 3 3 , i think it's meant to have higher standards . meant to have higher standards. onen— meant to have higher standards. onon n— meant to have higher standards. often it falls— meant to have higher standards. often it falls short, but i

nourd— often it falls short, but i nourd-or— often it falls short, but i would-of back- often it falls short, but i would of back up what would sort of back up what boron— would sort of back up what darren said— would sort of back up what darren said a— would sort of back up what darren said a moment ago and add one darren said a moment ago and add rnrnd:— darren said a moment ago and add one more thing, which it tells me— one more thing, which it tells no-noo— one more thing, which it tells no-noo o— one more thing, which it tells me-has a real- one more thing, which it tells me has a real lack of me the bbc has a real lack of confidence— me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in— me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in the— me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in the kinds of rnrndo— confidence in the kinds of rnrngo rnoy— confidence in the kinds of things they need to be reporting on and— things they need to be reporting on and non— things they need to be reporting on and how how— things they need to be reporting on and how how when dealing with the on and how how when dealing with rno—rnoy- on and how how when dealing with rno—bnoy thinkl the younger audience, they think tick the younger audience, they think bob—or- tick tock, young guy loads of odors:— tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads— tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads of— tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads of attention. we snourd— clicks, loads of attention. we snourd bo— clicks, loads of attention. we should be talking about it. worr— should be talking about it. would— should be talking about it. well,-i-that- should be talking about it. well, i that shows well, no, i think that shows ready— well, no, i think that shows rodry o— well, no, i think that shows really a lack— well, no, i think that shows really a lack of.— well, no, i think that shows really a lack of. yeah, strength in really a lack of. yeah, strength rn rnorr— really a lack of. yeah, strength in their editorial— really a lack of. yeah, strength in their editorial decisions and confidence— in their editorial decisions and confidence-now,— in their editorial decisions and- confidence-now,-claire confidence. now, baroness claire fox, if any of you fox, i don't know if any of you saw, tweeted out earlier saw, but she tweeted out earlier today or yesterday whenever this interview came out, she tweeted that he was mocking the bbc . and that he was mocking the bbc. and that's exactly how it appeared from the way he had his knee up against the table, from the way he was looking around from the way saying, why you way he was saying, why are you asking he was asking me this? yeah, he was mocking our public broadcaster, which is an absolute shame, not only to the broadcaster , but to only to the broadcaster, but to the country. yeah, it the country. yeah, well, it nones— the country. yeah, well, it makes _totallyi makes them look totally bornodo. — makes them look totally pathetic-his. makes them look totally- pathetic. -his mother, pathetic. and even his mother, bnoudn— pathetic. and even his mother,| rnoudn—odd: though, has come out and said, i rubr— though, has come out and said, i ruor-nrn— though, has come out and said, i ruor-nrnldor— though, has come out and said, i ruor-nrnldorlrob.- just want him to get a job. rddnr. — just want him to get a job. nrgnr. noybo— just want him to get a job. right. maybe he can be a runner at right. maybe he can be a runner or do— right. maybe he can be a runner or do bbc.— right. maybe he can be a runner or do bbc. ny— right. maybe he can be a runner at the bbc. my mum said that doruorry— at the bbc. my mum said that actually about— at the bbc. my mum said that actually about me. sri tt

actually about me. mine still does.— actually about me. mine still does. ro— actually about me. mine still does, to be fair. but. actually about me. sri tt 3 t but. but but does, to be fair. but. but but unn— does, to be fair. but. but but nrrn bob:— does, to be fair. but. but but nrrn rnor: r— does, to be fair. but. but but with that, i think— does, to be fair. but. but but with that, i think this- 3 t but. but but with that, i think this guy has snoun— with that, i think this guy has shown absolutely no remorse wonrovooo— shown absolutely no remorse whatsoever, pretty much apart from— whatsoever, pretty much apart non-krnd— whatsoever, pretty much apart from -kind lcack- whatsoever, pretty much apart from kind cack handed from some kind of cack handed oborogy. — from some kind of cack handed oborogy. -ro— from some kind of cack handed apology. is obviously apology. but he is obviously going— apology. but he is obviously gong—ro- apology. but he is obviously gong—do do- apology. but he is obviously. going—to do things apology. but he is obviously goinbehave to do things apology. but he is obviously goinbehave in to do things apology. but he is obviously goinbehave in a to do things apology. but he is obviously goinbehave in a way do things apology. but he is obviously goinbehave in a way thatiings apology. but he is obviously goinbehave in a way that isgs and behave in a way that is nororry— and behave in a way that is morally reprehensive and morally reprehensive rebel. and this morally reprehensive rebel. and bro-bro— morally reprehensive rebel. and bnb-nn-do- this is feeding his ego. i do rnrnk— this is feeding his ego. i do think genuinely— this is feeding his ego. i do think genuinely that he does ready— think genuinely that he does really believe— think genuinely that he does really believe that he has got no— really believe that he has got this movement— really believe that he has got this movement and that he is dornd— this movement and that he is doing something— this movement and that he is doing something rather special . doing something rather special. and so— doing something rather special. and no n— doing something rather special. and no b you— doing something rather special. and so if you then— doing something rather special. and so if you then get him on dbwsnrbnr— and so if you then get him on newsnight, to newsnight, which is supposed to be newsnight, which is supposed to bo—brou— newsnight, which is supposed to bo—brou snou- newsnight, which is supposed to be_brow show and- newsnight, which is supposed to be brow show and you be a very high brow show and you don— be a very high brow show and you rnon—nrn — be a very high brow show and you then—him views- be a very high brow show and you then—him views on. then start asking him views on dbwsnrdnr— then start asking him views on newsnight, newsnight's ratings have plummeting for years and yor— have plummeting for years and years,-validated- have plummeting for years and years, validated him. years, but you validated him. and— years, but you validated him. and-nob— years, but you validated him. andlhe's dong— years, but you validated him. and he's going to keep and so he's going to keep doing it. and so he's going to keep doing rn—rdo— and so he's going to keep doing rn—rdo boob- it. he thinks if it's basic budd— it. he thinks if it's basic reward action,- it. he thinks if it's basic reward action, isn't it like unen— reward action, isn't it like unon you— reward action, isn't it like when you give- reward action, isn't it like when you give a dog treat, when you give a dog a treat, nonn— when you give a dog a treat, rrdnrd-dornd- when you give a dog a treat, right? doing this, right? if i keep doing this, i get—i- right? if i keep doing this, i dob—r thinkl right? if i keep doing this, ij get—i think he right? if i keep doing this, i- get_| think he came get this reward. i think he came across terribly. i've looked at the tweets below. there was hardly anyone support . it hardly anyone in support. it almost outed him as being a bit of i don't of a fool, and i don't think that did. it paints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast did. it paints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast of did. it paints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast of a did. it paints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast of a badi. it paints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast of a bad life,)aints of a fool, and i don't think tiforecast of a bad life, yes,s a forecast of a bad life, yes, but it also he's the one he's the loser out of it all. is he but it also he's the one he's the lot0' out of it all. is he but it also he's the one he's the lo to get of it all. is he but it also he's the one he's the loto get outit all. is he but it also he's the one he's the loto get out ofill. is he but it also he's the one he's the loto get out of it. is he but it also he's the one he's the loto get out of it long; going to get out of it long term, do you not think if the bbc had on at and bbc had had him on at and

essentially made him look by essentially made him look bad by asking pertinent questions, has that silly? that made him look silly? instead, genuinely instead, they actually genuinely asked— instead, they actually genuinely oobod nrn — instead, they actually genuinely asked him opinion on. but asked him his opinion on. but rnor— asked him his opinion on. but not no— asked him his opinion on. but that was enough.— asked him his opinion on. but that was enough. andrew tate and his that was enough. andrew tate and no obrnron— that was enough. andrew tate and no obrnronluny— that was enough. andrew tate and his opinion why young men his opinion on why young men rook— his opinion on why young men book up— his opinion on why young men book up ro— his opinion on why young men look up to people— his opinion on why young men look up to people like andrew robe.— look up to people like andrew robo- wny— look up to people like andrew tate. why should— look up to people like andrew tate. why should we care for it? noo— tate. why should we care for it? bros giving— tate. why should we care for it? bros giving brun— tate. why should we care for it? was giving him enough- tate. why should we care for it? was giving him enough rope. it was to give him enough rope situation? no. but she asked. he looks foolish questions. doesn't matter. think doesn't matter. i don't think sown—- doesn't matter. i don't think. oouoo— rryrno so. i think the bbc was trying to so. i think the bbc was trying ro-rn— so. i think the bbc was trying ro-rn bouon— so. i think the bbc was trying to-in touch with- so. i think the bbc was trying to in touch with young to look in touch with young boond— to look in touch with young brood-dor- to look in touch with young people, get young people, trying to get young boobro— people, trying to get young boobro-and- people, trying to get young- people -andlactually people watching. and i actually rnrnk— people watching. and i actually rnrnk-bnon— people watching. and i actually think-them look- people watching. and i actually think them look very, think it makes them look very, very— think it makes them look very, very-rouon— think it makes them look very, very-touchlthink- think it makes them look very, very touch think that very out of touch to think that obn— very out of touch to think that this-represents— very out of touch to think that this represents youth this boy represents kent's youth : r-d— this boy represents kent's youth : r-d soy— this boy represents kent's youth , r-d ooy sorry. — this boy represents kent's youth , r-d ooy sorry. oo— this boy represents kent's youth , i'd say sorry. cirt:r rt:ri no, , i'd say sorry. go on. no, i rubr— , i'd say sorry. go on. no, i ruor going— , i'd say sorry. go on. no, i was just going to— , i'd say sorry. crt:r rt:ri no, i was just going to say, emily, do you— was just going to say, emily, do you rnrnb— was just going to say, emily, do you think there's— was just going to say, emily, do you think there's currency you think there's any currency or—bbc- you think there's any currency or—bbc for- you think there's any currencyi or_ bbc for having or credit to the bbc for having rnor— or credit to the bbc for having that conversation,— or credit to the bbc for having that conversation, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthinkzrsation, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people should do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people should be )o you think people should be nond— you think people should be askingr nny— you think people should be askingr nny do— you think people should be asking, why do so many young boondo— asking, why do so many young boobro-andron— asking, why do so many young people andrew not asking people like andrew t not asking rdrzzr— people like andrew t not asking drab-rhodo- people like andrew t not asking mizzi, -that's exactly. i mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's hugely important question mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's ithugely important question mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's it was ly important question mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's it was justiportant question mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's it was just bizarret question mizzi, though? that's exactly. it's it was just bizarre seeing on and it was just bizarre seeing kirsty wark ask mizzi about andrew tate you think this andrew tate and you think this is an operation and it was a feminist sat on the other side. covid i didn't hear a peep from nor.— covid i didn't hear a peep from nor. wnor— covid i didn't hear a peep from nor. wnor sno— covid i didn't hear a peep from her. what she didn't get any. sorry:— her. what she didn't get any. sorry: rob— her. what she didn't get any. sorry, no you— her. what she didn't get any. sorry, let you finish your

sentence . no,- sorry, let you finish your sentence . no, no, no. sorry, let you finish your- sentence . no, no, no. but there sentence. no, no, no. but there is there are serious questions. i think for mizzi. there is onero— i think for mizzi. there is onoro ro— i think for mizzi. there is onoro do o— i think for mizzi. there is there is a commentary to be had obour— there is a commentary to be had about disaffected— there is a commentary to be had about disaffected youth of the day about disaffected youth of the doy ond— about disaffected youth of the doy ond nou— about disaffected youth of the day and how we— about disaffected youth of the day and how we handle handle onen— day and how we handle handle onon ond— day and how we handle handle them and infantilize them and don— them and infantilize them and don bronoro— them and infantilize them and then promote them. “415?" them and infantilize them and then promote them. / then promote them. yeah, well, reord— then promote them. yeah, well, done droo— then promote them. yeah, well, leave that one there. shocking yes, indeed. next, though , yes, indeed. up next, though, there's nothing more in there's nothing more certain in life death and but life than death and taxes, but should there be taxes after death ? it's time for mcgee's death? it's time for mcgee's meltdown . death? it's time for mcgee's meltdown. take death? it's time for mcgee's meltdown . take it away. oh, we meltdown. take it away. oh, we do n— meltdown. take it away. oh, we do b no— meltdown. take it away. oh, we do n sorry.— meltdown. take it away. oh, we do it now. sorry. i— 3 take it away. oh, we do it now. sorry. i thought we gond— do it now. sorry. i thought we going ro— do it now. sorry. i thought we were going to break. i do opobooboo— were going to break. i do apologise. well, look, i think roo— apologise. well, look, i think rye-no— apologise. well, look, i think i've its inheritance tax i've just. its inheritance tax is i've just. its inheritance tax do dudro. — i've just. its inheritance tax do oudro. ddo— i've just. its inheritance tax is quite. it's in— i've just. its inheritance tax is quite. it's in the news this week:— is quite. it's in the news this nook: dno— is quite. it's in the news this week, the daily— is quite. it's in the news this week, the daily telegraph have dounonod— week, the daily telegraph have launched campaign try and launched a campaign to try and oboddon— launched a campaign to try and oboddon dr— launched a campaign to try and abolish it completely. we look at abolish it completely. we look or oxonbdoo— abolish it completely. we look at examples in— abolish it completely. we look at examples in sweden 20 years ago,— at examples in sweden 20 years agor obey— at examples in sweden 20 years ago, they decided— at examples in sweden 20 years ago, they decided to abolish it odbodornor. — ago, they decided to abolish it orrooornor. n— ago, they decided to abolish it altogether. it had— ago, they decided to abolish it altogether. it had been coming down— altogether. it had been coming down incrementally year on year one— down incrementally year on year one odne— down incrementally year on year since the since the— down incrementally year on year since the since the 1980s. they got since the since the 1980s. they dob-evenbuoddy- got rid of it eventually in zooe. — got rid of it eventually in- 2004. _economists in 2004. academics, economists in boonddnovdo— 2004. academics, economists in scandinavia believe that oeruoddy— scandinavia believe that actually improved productivity, broduerdydby— actually improved productivity, productivity and _ actually improved productivity, productivity and it loosened the kdnd— productivity and it loosened the kdnd od— productivity and it loosened the kdnd od ooe— productivity and it loosened the kind of some of— productivity and it loosened the kind of some of some of the it.

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so i've been hit with inheritance tax quite badly. i duod— inheritance tax quite badly. i ruor ondnk— inheritance tax quite badly. i just think with— inheritance tax quite badly. i just think with all the taxes ond— just think with all the taxes dob-boy:— just think with all the taxes that.pay,.think- just think with all the taxes that pay, think about that we pay, we think about ondndo— that we pay, we think about things-income- that we pay, we think about things income tax. we've things like income tax. we've got things like income tax. we've dob—robe- things like income tax. we'vei dob—robe got the highest tax take we've nod— got the highest tax take we've nod one— got the highest tax take we've had the highest— got the highest tax take we've had the highest tax burden we've had the highest tax burden we've nod dn— had the highest tax burden we've nod dn do— had the highest tax burden we've nod dn do yeo— had the highest tax burden we've had in 70 years. there's income tax,— had in 70 years. there's income tax, vod— had in 70 years. there's income tax, or or— had in 70 years. there's income tax, or or 20. — had in 70 years. there's income tax, vat at 20. that's been rnodo— tax, vat at 20. that's been that's risen— tax, vat at 20. that's been that's risen over- tax, vat at 20. that's been that's risen over my lifetime. it that's risen over my lifetime. n woo— that's risen over my lifetime. n no.— that's risen over my lifetime. it was 15% back— that's risen over my lifetime. it was 15% back the early it was 15% back in the early ebo. — it was 15% back in the early ebo. -ro— it was 15% back in the early ebo. -bo zo- it was 15% back in the early 90s.-to 20 now.- it was 15% back in the early 90s. to 20 now. there's 90s. it's up to 20 now. there's bobb— 90s. it's up to 20 now. there's dork-db— 90s. it's up to 20 now. there's dork-db nddnr— 90s. it's up to 20 now. there's talk-it might even- 90s. it's up to 20 now. there's talk it might even up talk that it might even go up even further— talk that it might even go up even further stamp duty. i think is even further stamp duty. i think dolwery— even further stamp duty. i think dolwery undodr— even further stamp duty. i think islvery unfair tax.— even further stamp duty. i think islvery unfairtax. i- even further stamp duty. i think is very unfairtax. i can't is a very unfair tax. i can't ondnk— is a very unfair tax. i can't ondnk od— is a very unfair tax. i can't think of many— is a very unfair tax. i can't think of many other countries in is a very unfair tax. i can't thinwesterniy other countries in is a very unfair tax. i can't thinwestern worldzr countries in is a very unfair tax. i can't thinwestern world where tries in is a very unfair tax. i can't thinwestern world where you in the western world where you ddreroddy— the western world where you literally have— the western world where you literally have pay find literally have to pay or find money— literally have to pay or find noneylbuy— literally have to pay or find noneylbuy-dl money to buy a house. i obbreedobe— money to buy a house. i appreciate that. in other oubureo— appreciate that. in other cultures, house building or nouoe— cultures, house building or house ownership quite house ownership isn't quite as brewodenr—dbl prevalent as it is here, but it doeo—undodr. - prevalent as it is here, but it- does_unfair. -then does seem very unfair. and then of course, right— does seem very unfair. and then of course, right at— does seem very unfair. and then of course, right at the end when youre— of course, right at the end when youe bdr— of course, right at the end when youre ndr wdrn— of course, right at the end when you're hit with a— of course, right at the end when you're hit with a pot, you're redr— you're hit with a pot, you're den-bor— you're hit with a pot, you're redo-bob ond- you're hit with a pot, you're left pot and then left with a pot and then ouddendy— left with a pot and theni ouddenry—ro

left with a pot and then- suddenly_to 40. suddenly it's hit by up to 40. yes— suddenly it's hit by up to 40. veo onere— suddenly it's hit by up to 40. yes, there are— suddenly it's hit by up to 40. yes, there are boundaries at wnden— yes, there are boundaries at wnden-eon— yes, there are boundaries at which-can keep- yes, there are boundaries at which can keep keep some of which you can keep keep some of your— which you can keep keep some of your weobb— which you can keep keep some of your wealth. but— which you can keep keep some of your wealth. but i— which you can keep keep some of your wealth. but i also think it orddreo— your wealth. but i also think it stifles ambition. _ your wealth. but i also think it stifles ambition. some people don-b— stifles ambition. some peoplei don-o—rnedr don't necessarily work all their life don't necessarily work all their ddde—weobnl don't necessarily work all their life _wealth to i life and accumulate wealth to buy—a— life and accumulate wealth to buy—o ne- life and accumulate wealth to buy—a new house.| buy bentley or a new house. somerdneo— buy bentley or a new house. sometimes-do- buy bentley or a new house. sometimes-do it- buy bentley or a new house. sometimes do it for the sometimes they do it for the betterment— sometimes they do it for the betterment of _ sometimes they do it for the betterment of their and betterment of their children and onedr— betterment of their children and their—whereas- their grandchildren, whereas the dneenrdwe— their grandchildren, whereas the incentive _that. their grandchildren, whereas the incentive _that ifi incentive for them to do that if all incentive for them to do that if odd-know— incentive for them to do that if odd-knowlrne- incentive for them to do that if all- know-the -of i incentive for them to do that if all-knowlthe -of it,| all they know at the end of it, or-nowe— all they know at the end of it, or-nowe ro— all they know at the end of it, or- have to come- all they know at the end of it, or-have to come at- all they know at the end of it, or have to come at the end or they have to come at the end of n,— or they have to come at the end of n, do— or they have to come at the end of n, do rnor— or they have to come at the end of it, is that it's— or they have to come at the end of it, is that it's going to be bored— of it, is that it's going to be boxed-one— of it, is that it's going to be taxed lthe -and- of it, is that it's going to be taxed lthe -and i- of it, is that it's going to be taxed the and i think taxed to the hilt. and i think ddo— taxed to the hilt. and i think ddo-undodr. — taxed to the hilt. and i think it's-unfair. i- taxed to the hilt. and i think it's unfair. i think it's it's deeply unfair. i think it's odne— it's deeply unfair. i think it's time-abolish— it's deeply unfair. i think it's time abolish altogether. time to abolish it altogether. i obbreedore— time to abolish it altogether. i obbreedore-ore- appreciate that there are orounenro— appreciate that there are arguments contrary. appreciate that there are- arguments-contrary. and arguments to the contrary. and i odoo— arguments to the contrary. and i odoo-wedr— arguments to the contrary. and i odoo-wedd: obey- also say as well, they only oeruodry— also say as well, they only actually—aboutl also say as well, they only- actually_about 0.5% actually account for about 0.5% of actually account for about 0.5% od-dowernnenr- actually account for about 0.5%. of-government-so of overall government income. so it's of overall government income. so no nor— of overall government income. so no nor exoerry— of overall government income. so it's not exactly making a big obdoon—oneeri splash on the balance sheet eddber— splash on the balance sheet edrner. rm.— splash on the balance sheet either. hm. that's a really good bodnr. — either. hm. that's a really good bodnr. wren— either. hm. that's a really good bodnr. when you— either. hm. that's a really good point. when you _the. either. hm. that's a really good. point. when you _the point point. when you made the point about buying bentleys and about people buying bentleys and things, incentivise things, it does incentivise people spend frivolously people to just spend frivolously early in their final years or throughout their lives rather than actually save. i think it's better that money some people might that it's better might think that it's better that their hard that their money, their hard earned to their earned cash goes to their children or their grandchildren rather on swanky car. but rather than on a swanky car. but you get for your money if you get more for your money if you get more for your money if you true. but then i you don't. yeah true. but then i guess you don't. yeah true. but then i oueooloubbooe— you don't. yeah true. but then i guesslsuppose the— 3 i c “411? i but then i guess suppose the counter guess i suppose the counter

orounenoo— guess i suppose the counter arguments at arguments that would be that at deoor— arguments that would be that at deoob wnen— arguments that would be that at least when you're _ arguments that would be that at least when you're spending rowordo— least when you're spending towards the— least when you're spending towards the end of your life, you—oone- you are creating some kind of weodbb— you are creating some kind of wealth-know,— you are creating some kind of wealth. know, you moving wealth. you know, you are moving money— wealth. you know, you are movingj money—onodo money around the economy that's been—ond— money around the economy that's been—ond ododn- money around the economy that's been—and again, but. money around the economy that's beenmoney and again, but money around the economy that's beenmoney is and again, but money around the economy that's beenmoney is taxedd again, but money around the economy that's beenmoney is taxed againn, but money around the economy that's beenmoney is taxed again andit your money is taxed again and ododn— your money is taxed again and ododn ond— your money is taxed again and ooodn ond ooodn— your money is taxed again and again and again throughout your life. again and again throughout your be -you— again and again throughout your ddde-you know:- again and again throughout your life. you know, you pay life. i mean, you know, you pay tax life. i mean, you know, you pay box—muon- tax in all pretty much eweryrndno— tax in all pretty much everything know how everything you do. you know how it everything you do. you know how dr-vou— everything you do. you know how do-vou know:- everything you do. you know how it-you know, you- it all works. you know, you eon-r— it all works. you know, you cont-work- it all works. you know, you can't-work any- it all works. you know, you can't work any other way, can't really work any other way, but can't really work any other way, bur dr— can't really work any other way, bur do duod— can't really work any other way, but it just seems— can't really work any other way, but it just seems unfair at the end.— but it just seems unfair at the end-dor— but it just seems unfair at the end-dob ondo- but it just seems unfair at the end.-got this pot- but it just seems unfair at the end. got this pot you've end. you've got this pot you've been— been working for. you might have bdenoy—nddnr- plenty of children, you might nove—nddnri plenty of children, you might- have_might have have no children, you might have one— have no children, you might have ooner-vou— have no children, you might have other-you might- have no children, you might have other you might give other priorities. you might give it other priorities. you might give dr oo— other priorities. you might give do do your— other priorities. you might give dr ro your-your— other priorities. you might give it to your your relatives it to your to your relatives or boneroeo— it to your to your relatives or- battersea_something it to your to your relatives or- battersea but-something it to your to your relatives or battersea but you something it to your to your relatives or battersea but you should;omething it to your to your relatives or battersea but you should be ething like that. but you should be orrowed— like that. but you should be oddowed ro— like that. but you should be allowed to do— like that. but you should be allowed to do that without it bednd— allowed to do that without it bednd-bne - allowed to do that without it. bednd-rne-dr. d being taxed at the end of it. i obe— being taxed at the end of it. i mean, the stealth— being taxed at the end of it. i mean, the stealth tax- being taxed at the end of it. i mean, the stealth tax nature as well, though, of saying we're going to keep thresholds as going to keep the thresholds as they say someone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty say someone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty undersomeone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty under margaret bought a property under margaret thatcher's the thatcher's right to buy in the early 80s, property worth early 80s, property is now worth a than it was a lot more money than it was back in the day and inflation is going up and going up and up and up. and thanks part to the thanks in large part to the lockdowns all endured lockdowns that we all endured and to people, and we're saying to people, you're actually a wealthy you're not actually a wealthy person, but not going to person, but we're not going to let on that property. let you pass on that property. actually going ensure actually we're going to ensure that family is going that your family is going through the heartache of losing

. you to then go through . you have to then go through the administration and fear of selling the property and losing that money. there's also from an emotional point of view, and i experienced it myself, it's the awkward conversations that you have to have with loved ones . have to have with loved ones. you know, my dad, it's very dddddeub— you know, my dad, it's very difficult for— you know, my dad, it's very difficult for my— you know, my dad, it's very difficult for my dad. had difficult for my dad. he had alzheimer's— difficult for my dad. he had alzheimer's_we| difficult for my dad. he had- alzheimer's_we had we alzheimer's. you know, we had we had alzheimer's. you know, we had we nodlrdekdnd— alzheimer's. you know, we had we hadlticking time— alzheimer's. you know, we had we had ticking time bomb to kind had a ticking time bomb to kind of-conversation- had a ticking time bomb to kind of-conversation out- of get the conversation out before— of get the conversation out before-door— of get the conversation out before lost mind, before he lost his mind, effectively. _ effectively. sorry to have to say— effectively. sorry to have to say-way _ effectively. sorry to have to ooy-woy: bub- effectively. sorry to have to say way, but that's how say it that way, but that's how it say it that way, but that's how do — say it that way, but that's how do and — say it that way, but that's how do and oo— say it that way, but that's how it was. and so many people have woo.— it was. and so many people have won—d— it was. and so many people havej rnor.—d-brobobry that. you know, i would probably like that. you know, i would probably ddke—ooneone- that. you know, i would probably like—someone if- that. you know, i would probably like—someone if i- like it myself if someone if i deb— like it myself if someone if i deb-were— like it myself if someone if i felt-were trying- like it myself if someone if i felt were trying to felt my kids were trying to door— felt my kids were trying to- attack—probably attack my wealth, i'd probably be—reeoddl be like, absolutely. i'd recoil a be like, absolutely. i'd recoil o-ond— be like, absolutely. i'd recoil o-ond d-d- be like, absolutely. i'd recoil o-ond do you- be like, absolutely. i'd recoil a and i'd you know, a little bit and i'd you know, it a little bit and i'd you know, dr-ereoreo— a little bit and i'd you know, it-creates tension- it just creates tension in dondddeo— it just creates tension in families as— it just creates tension in families as-so- it just creates tension in families as so much. it just creates tension in- families as-so much. so families as well. so much. so muon— families as well. so much. so nucb-dr— families as well. so much. so much.-it make- families as well. so much. so much. it make things more much. does it make things more equal much. does it make things more equal, think equal, aaron, though? i think there's there's equal, aaron, though? i think there'slthere's a— equal, aaron, though? i think there'slthere's a strong- there's a there's a strong orounenro— there's a there's a strong arguments for- there's a there's a strong arguments for and against. i ddoodree— arguments for and against. i disagree with— arguments for and against. i disagree with some core disagree with some of the core brendoeo— premises there. so, for dnorone— premises there. so, for instance,-7%- premises there. so, for instance, 7% of the premises there. so, for- instance,-7% of the country instance, only 7% of the country pays— instance, only 7% of the country boyo ondo— instance, only 7% of the country boyo rndo box. — instance, only 7% of the country pays this tax. and— instance, only 7% of the country pays this tax. and you said obour— pays this tax. and you said about-stuff- pays this tax. and you said. about-stuff-end pays this tax. and you said- about-stuff-end of about buying stuff at the end of your— about buying stuff at the end of your bre— about buying stuff at the end of your be you— about buying stuff at the end of your life. you obviously pay vat on—so— your life. you obviously pay vat on—so youre- your life. you obviously pay vat on so you're looking your life. you obviously pay vat on20% so you're looking your life. you obviously pay vat on20% there so you're looking your life. you obviously pay vat on20% there as) you're looking your life. you obviously pay vat on 20% there as well. re looking your life. you obviously pay vat on 20% there as well. so ooking your life. you obviously pay vat on20% there as well. so ioking your life. you obviously pay vat on20% there as well. so i think at 20% there as well. so i think dnoo— at 20% there as well. so i think rnor edoner— at 20% there as well. so i think that either or— at 20% there as well. so i think that either or doesn't quite work. — that either or doesn't quite- work. _ sympathetic work. and i'm very sympathetic to work. and i'm very sympathetic do oonebody— work. and i'm very sympathetic to somebody inherits house to somebody who inherits a house wonn— to somebody who inherits a house wonn-d— to somebody who inherits a house wonn-d or— to somebody who inherits a house worth 7 or £800,000. i am

to somebody who inherits a house wortisympathetic 800,000. i am to somebody who inherits a house wortisympathetic to 0,000. i am to somebody who inherits a house wortisympathetic to that,i. i am to somebody who inherits a house wortisympathetic to that, thatm very sympathetic to that, that you— very sympathetic to that, that you-nove— very sympathetic to that, that you-nowe ro- very sympathetic to that, that you-nowe do boy- you shouldn't have to pay inheritance. _ you shouldn't have to pay inheritance. i inheritance. this is part of the problem which most problem as well, which is most people not people of course, it's not raising sorry, raising the most money. sorry, sorry but i was sorry to interrupt, but i was just that the problem is just saying that the problem is that are little that the boundaries are a little bit thresholds, bit out bit thresholds, a little bit out of well. so the 325 per of date as well. so the 325 per parent threshold was put in in when that? 2009. since when was that? 2009. so since then we've had property prices incrementally rising throughout the country. lots of people who wouldn't be considered for that for have been lifted for that tax have been lifted into it. sorry. quickly, oonebody— into it. sorry. quickly, somebody like - c sorry. quickly, somebody like nadhim zahawi into it. sorry. quickly,— somebody like nadhim zahawi who into it. sorry. quickly,— som

to see people who work all their lives and pay into a system all of their lives and decide that they want leave something to they want to leave something to they want to leave something to the future generation which a lot of people do. and i think that on people who are that gets lost on people who are now bit younger, who now who are a bit younger, who are screaming, are kicking and screaming, saying more tax. saying we need to pay more tax. i forget that a lot i think they forget that a lot of elderly people actually one of elderly people actually one of if not their top priority is to the generation to know that the generation coming after them is actually safe and secure. and this is something that i think is actually inherently wrong in our society at the minute. but if you happen to have someone you do happen to have someone who's often a self—made individual , who's often a self—made individual, know, a individual, you know, there's a lot generation irish lot of first generation irish immigrants , for example, immigrants, for example, who worked building trade, worked in the building trade, did everything right, worked their ended up their way up. they ended up owning that now, owning a property that is now, under standards, worth under today's standards, worth £1 million something, which £1 million or something, which actually, i can say you've actually, if i can say you've got experience this, got family experience of this, haven't family haven't you? i've got family experience someone experience of it where someone who was, know, absolutely who was, you know, absolutely worked. the kind of worked. i mean, the kind of thing has an impact on your thing that has an impact on your physical health, which unfortunately physical health, which unprematurely right and to prematurely death. right and then getting then you end up getting absolutely and you absolutely clobbered and you think, well, is that really is

that really fair? i would think, well, is that really is that questionr? i would think, well, is that really is that questionr? i todayi think, well, is that really is that questionr? i today , also question as well today, theyi also question as well today, they i don't think our tax is being well spent. if you look around, you look around at being well spent. if you look arotpublicyou look around at being well spent. if you look arotpublic services around at being well spent. if you look arotpublic services andind at being well spent. if you look arotpublic services and where we our public services and where we are the at the are spending the money at the moment how we're spending moment and how we're spending it and manner we'll and the manner in which we'll get way is i just don't get onto one way is i just don't think could tolerate it. if think i could tolerate it. if everything was working well, everything was running smoothly. can throw it out can i ask can i throw it out nae,— can i ask can i throw it out there, though?— can i ask can i throw it out there, though? i— can i ask can i throw it out there, though? i mean, one of we— there, though? i mean, one of the criticisms— there, though? i mean, one of the criticisms inheritance the criticisms of inheritance doo— the criticisms of inheritance box—know:- tax is that if, you know, inheritance _ tax is that if, you know, inheritance tax, but abolishing dnnerdded— inheritance tax, but abolishing inherited inheritance taxes , inherited inheritance taxes, dnod— inherited inheritance taxes, dnod-booodnd- inherited inheritance taxes, that passing wealth that you're passing wealth dnroudn— that you're passing wealth through down— that you're passing wealth through down to kids who are brobobdy— through down to kids who are probably advanced , quite probably quite advanced, quite odwondoded— probably quite advanced, quite advantaged anyway by just bronkdnd— advantaged anyway by just plonking wealth in their in plonking that wealth in their in der— plonking that wealth in their in dnedr-are— plonking that wealth in their in dnedr-are you- plonking that wealth in their in their are you stifling their accounts. are you stifling ereoddwddy— their accounts. are you stifling creativity, are _ their accounts. are you stifling creativity, are you— their accounts. are you stifling creativity, are you stifling onbdddon— creativity, are you stifling ambition will— creativity, are you stifling ambition will necessarily spend it ambition will necessarily spend dd bedder. — ambition will necessarily spend it better. that's— ambition will necessarily spend it better. that's that's my that woudd— it better. that's that's my that woudd be— it better. that's that's my that woudd be my— it better. that's that's my that would be my you— it better. that's that's my that would be my you know little cnordeo— would be my you know little cnordeo d— would be my you know little charles i mean— would be my you know little charles i mean ratio i would be dnnerdded— charles i mean ratio i would be inherited really— charles i mean ratio i would be inherited really worried if i nod— inherited really worried if i nod robo— inherited really worried if i nod dodo od— inherited really worried if i had lots of money leaving it to a had lots of money leaving it to o kdd. — had lots of money leaving it to o kdd. ob.— had lots of money leaving it to a kid. oh, personally,- had lots of money leaving it to a kid. r3 a kid. oh, personally, i'd be very worried. i would want i think usually the adult children. i would. well, just call me your child, call me kid. it's your child, right? overcompensate. right? i would overcompensate. and i was and i actually think if i was well off or successful, i'd well off or uber successful, i'd

probably the kids probably quite harsh the kids to be isn't that be like, look, life isn't that easy. things don't come to you that do that that easily. so i do see that they talk about the threshold, tend everything. tend to spend everything. presumably you wouldn't breounobdy— presumably we respect you wouddn-d— wouldn't rather leave it to rereny— wouldn't rather leave it to rereny-werb- wouldn't rather leave it to- jeremy-well,-gerry jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry woyndnon— jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry woyndnon .— jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry noyndnon . ard— jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry moynihan . all right. jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry moynihan . all right . still to moynihan. all right. still to come tonight,— moynihan. all right. still to come tonight, darren is going to endow— come tonight, darren is going to exprodn wny— come tonight, darren is going to exprodn wny ne— come tonight, darren is going to explain why he thinks the virtue odonorddnd— explain why he thinks the virtue odonorrdno rudde— explain why he thinks the virtue signalling pride month. i can't beddewe— signalling pride month. i can't believe-whole- signalling pride month. i can't believe whole month is a believe it's a whole month is a party— believe it's a whole month is a party-many- believe it's a whole month is al pafiv-manv-people party to which many gay people odnbdy— party to which many gay people simply-invited. - party to which many gay people simply invited. aaron is simply aren't invited. aaron is going— simply aren't invited. aaron is oodno do— simply aren't invited. aaron is going do derr— simply aren't invited. aaron is going to tell us— simply aren't invited. aaron is going to tell us why all under 45 going to tell us why all under db yeor— going to tell us why all under do yeor ordo— going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are— going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are being let down by we— 45 year olds are being let down by the importance— 45 year olds are being let down by the importance we place on undwerodddeo— by the importance we place on universities or— by the importance we place on universities or something like dnon—dodnd- universities or something like dnon—dodnd do| that. and patrick is going to derr— that. and patrick is going to red uo— that. and patrick is going to red uo wny— that. and patrick is going to tell us why asylum seekers who euode— tell us why asylum seekers who refuse _ should l refuse accommodation should odnbdy— refuse accommodation should simply-deported. - refuse accommodation should simply deported. you're with simply be deported. you're with the simply be deported. you're with we sodurdoy— simply be deported. you're with the saturday five— simply be deported. you're with the saturday five live on

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party to which many gay people are not invited. are simply not invited. it's gnnd are simply not invited. it's grind i'll probably be grind time. i'll probably be conceded— grind time. i'll probably be cancelled again— g r: c i'll probably be cancelled again this aslef cancelled again for this aslef evermore bizarre— cancelled again for this aslef evermore bizarre flag that looks like evermore bizarre flag that looks ddbe dd-o— evermore bizarre flag that looks like it's about— evermore bizarre flag that looks like it's about to— evermore bizarre flag that looks like it's about to give an ebdrebdde— like it's about to give an epileptic seizure. a party to wnen— epileptic seizure. a party to wnden nony— epileptic seizure. a party to which many gay people that beddewe— which many gay people that beddewe dn— which many gay people that believe in biological sex aren't dnwdded— believe in biological sex aren't dnwdded ond— believe in biological sex aren't invited and a— believe in biological sex aren't invited and a smorgasbord of pronouns like— invited and a smorgasbord of pronouns like they them them dnod— pronouns like they them them that translate, _ pronouns like they them them that translate, in— pronouns like they them them that translate, in my view as me, me, me . every that translate, in my view as me, me, me. every big eorboroddon— me, me, me. every big corporation in- me, me, me. every big corporation in the land is enonodno— corporation in the land is enonodno dro— corporation in the land is changing its logo to show how brooreoodwe— changing its logo to show how progreoodwe dd— changing its logo to show how progressive it is— changing its logo to show how progressive it is until of course , you look at their logos course, you look at their logos in course, you look at their logos dn rduordn— course, you look at their logos in muslim countries. a move from deb — in muslim countries. a move from deb do— in muslim countries. a move from deb do rebr— in muslim countries. a move from deb do rebd do— in muslim countries. a move from lgb to lgbt to lgb_ in muslim countries. a move from lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two rebr— lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two rend. d— lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two rend. d a— lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two rend. d a bruo— lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two lgbt. i a plus no— lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two lgbt. i a plus no ,_ lgb to lgbt to lgb betke to two lgbt. i a plus no , dear lgbt. i a plus no, dear ouddene— lgbt. i a plus no, dear audience, you- lgbt. i a plus no, dear audience, you don't need to odruod— audience, you don't need to odruod your— audience, you don't need to adjust your television set or your— adjust your television set or your roddo. — adjust your television set or your roddo. d— adjust your television set or your radio. i am— adjust your television set or your radio. i am not suffering a nodduneddon— your radio. i am not suffering a malfunction. it— your radio. i am not suffering a malfunction. it sounds more like a secure, sodden_ malfunction. it sounds more like a secure, sodden passport than a group— a secure, sodden passport than a group od— a secure, sodden passport than a grow of people-_ a secure, sodden passport than a group or beobre. d— a secure, sodden passport than a group of people. i had a good doudn— group of people. i had a good rouon dodoy— group of people. i had a good rouon dodoy od— group of people. i had a good laugh today at the us navy, enonodnd— laugh today at the us navy, enonodno dro— laugh today at the us navy, changing its social media, bronddnd— changing its social media, bronddnd do— changing its social media, branding to pride. brandon yes, oodnd— branding to pride. brandon yes, going do— branding to pride. brandon yes, we're going to blast your name , we're going to blast your name, but we're going to blast your name, bud don-d— we're going to blast your name, bud don-d worry:—

we're going to blast your name, but don't worry, we've plastered our but don't worry, we've plastered brodddeo— but don't worry, we've plastered prodddeo dn— but don't worry, we've plastered our profiles in rainbow colours , our profiles in rainbow colours : oo oeduoddy— our profiles in rainbow colours , so actually it's— our profiles in rainbow colours , so actually it's a— our profiles in rainbow colours , so actually it's a progressive brunderdnd.— , so actually it's a progressive brunderdno. a— , so actually it's a progressive plundering. a few— , so actually it's a progressive plundering. a few weeks ago i popped— plundering. a few weeks ago i popped dnoo— plundering. a few weeks ago i popped dndo o— plundering. a few weeks ago i popped into a gay bar in newcastle— popped into a gay bar in newcastle and i was told by some owerweddnd— newcastle and i was told by some overweight bloke— newcastle and i was told by some overweight bloke wearing a wig and overweight bloke wearing a wig ond ooe— overweight bloke wearing a wig and some heels— overweight bloke wearing a wig and some heels that someone that worked— and some heels that someone that worked dor— and some heels that someone that worked for en— and some heels that someone that worked for gb news— and some heels that someone that worked for gb news wasn't wedeorne— worked for gb news wasn't wedeorne dn— worked for gb news wasn't welcome in actually purporting to welcome in actually purporting do beoe— welcome in actually purporting to become more— welcome in actually purporting to become more inclusive . this to become more inclusive. this rnowernend noo— to become more inclusive. this movement has become more dndoderond— movement has become more intolerant and— movement has become more intolerant and intolerable . intolerant and intolerable. wndde— intolerant and intolerable. wndde d— intolerant and intolerable. wndde d woo— intolerant and intolerable. while i was battered more than a cod while i was battered more than a eod dn— while i was battered more than a eod dn o— while i was battered more than a eod dn o endbby— while i was battered more than a eod dn o endbby od— while i was battered more than a cod in a chippy at school for bednd— cod in a chippy at school for bednd o— cod in a chippy at school for being o ooy— cod in a chippy at school for being o ooy rod— cod in a chippy at school for being a gay lad on a council eodode— being a gay lad on a council eodode dn— being a gay lad on a council estate in county— being a gay lad on a council estate in county durham. so i derr— estate in county durham. so i bed you— estate in county durham. so i derr you dndo— estate in county durham. so i tell you this for— estate in county durham. so i tell you this for free, i won't be deedured— tell you this for free, i won't be lectured by— tell you this for free, i won't be lectured by some blue haired they— be lectured by some blue haired dney dnen— be lectured by some blue haired they then attention seeking dwerb— they then attention seeking dwerb on— they then attention seeking dwerb on nod— they then attention seeking twerp on not being a real gay . twerp on not being a real gay. dwe— twerp on not being a real gay. d-we dod— twerp on not being a real gay. d-we dod no— twerp on not being a real gay. i've got no pride— twerp on not being a real gay. i've got no pride in a flag and a movement that— i've got no pride in a flag and a movement that stands for sexualization_ a movement that stands for sexualization with drag queens , sexualization with drag queens, wddn— sexualization with drag queens, wddn doubde— sexualization with drag queens, with double entendre names berdorndnd— with double entendre names performing for— with double entendre names performing for children. i've got— performing for children. i've dod no— performing for children. i've god no rudde— performing for children. i've got no pride in— performing for children. i've got no pride in the indoctrination of kids with new gendero— indoctrination of kids with new gendero ond— indoctrination of kids with new genders and sexualities . and genders and sexualities. and nood— genders and sexualities. and most horrifically, i have oboodude— most horrifically, i have absolute no— most horrifically, i have absolute no pride in the mutilation— absolute no pride in the mutilation of- absolute no pride in the mutilation of minors in the name of gender— mutilation of minors in the name of gender affirmation. so maybe

i of gender affirmation. so maybe d don-d— of gender affirmation. so maybe d don-d bedong— of gender affirmation. so maybe i don't belong to— of gender affirmation. so maybe i don't belong to this ugly eyeoe— i don't belong to this ugly eyeooe od— i don't belong to this ugly eyeooe of o— i don't belong to this ugly eyesore of a flag and the movement behind it. i like bdokeo— movement behind it. i like blokes. that's— movement behind it. i like blokes. that's about it doesn't deddne— blokes. that's about it doesn't deddne rne— blokes. that's about it doesn't define me. and— blokes. that's about it doesn't define me. and we ought not let it define me. and we ought not let dd deddne— define me. and we ought not let it define britain— define me. and we ought not let it define britain through its ddeorogy— it define britain through its ideology either— it define britain through its ideology either . wow. �*tfd�*ricc ideology either. wow. well, tell us who— ideology either. wow. well, tell us what you really think , us what you really think, darren. wow. foreign come on. you— darren. wow. foreign come on. you nuod— darren. wow. foreign come on. you must disagree— d wow. foreign come on. you must disagree with all of dnon— you must disagree with all of dnod. are— you must disagree with all of dnod. are you— you must disagree with all of that. are you an— you must disagree with all of that. are you an ally? will you be oud— that. are you an ally? will you be oud od— that. are you an ally? will you be out of pride— that. are you an ally? will you be out of pride parade? will you be out of pride parade? will you be wowdng— be out of pride parade? will you be wowdng rne— be out of pride parade? will you be waving the progress pride frog— be waving the progress pride drog ooydng— be waving the progress pride drog ooydng ,— be waving the progress pride flag saying , come on, be waving the progress pride flag saying, come on, come on, all flag saying, come on, come on, odd endddren— flag saying, come on, come on, all children, chop— flag saying, come on, come on, all children, chop bits all children, chop your bits on. — all children, chop your bits on. -reod— all children, chop your bits on. -reod od- all children, chop your bits off.-rest of it? - all children, chop your bits. off. _rest of it? well, off. all the rest of it? well, you-we— off. all the rest of it? well, you-we done— off. all the rest of it? well, you've done that. you've you've done that. what you've done effective. done then, it's very effective. rhetorical is you've rhetorical tactic is you've bunch of stuff in there. so bunch lots of stuff in there. so i think that's what the flag does. well that's true. i think that's what the flag doezdarren'svell that's true. i think that's what the flag doezdarren's sayingit's true. i think that's what the flag doezdarren's saying he's'ue. i think that's what the flag doezdarren's saying he's better but darren's saying he's better than that. think i think than that. so i think i think pride a net good. think pride is a net good. i think it's we've we've it's very good that we've we've de—stigmatized covid bisexuality and homosexuality in this country over the last 20, 25 years. you know, you're, you're a than me, but a bit younger than me, but i remember really beginning remember it really beginning to happen late 1990s, know mark happen late 1990s, you know mark on , the first kiss et on eastenders, the first kiss et cetera we've come so far since then. so i think it's a net good . it's good that people

. i think it's good that people feel they can celebrate they feel they can celebrate who they are corporate stuff. are on the corporate stuff. you're it's you're entirely right. it's clearly absurd and i think we're at a moment now where the lgbt movement, there's clearly be a wider discussion about, you know, how people want to be represented. and of course, it is a very broad movement and people are going to have lots of differences. it's a very heterogeneous movement. and i think experience in think the experience you had in that for instance, i mean, that bar, for instance, i mean, i'm to that sounds i'm sorry to hear that it sounds like want quite like some people want quite a homogenous and homogenous movement. and clearly, you're clearly, when you're talking about about about you are talking about millions this millions of people in this country talking country right. you're talking about, six, six, about, what, six, six, six, let's million people. let's say 6 million people. you're have people of you're going to have people of all kinds of colours creeds all kinds of colours and creeds and and so i think and beliefs. and so i think those of given the those tensions kind of given the lgbt movement and its normalisation, that's kind of inevitable, isn't it? it's like begum, it? black and begum, isn't it? black and ednnde— begum, isn't it? black and ethnic minority— begum, isn't it? black and ethnic minority or- g c c?’ black and ethnic minority or minority? anno— ethnic minority or minority? bdnnde: duod— ethnic minority or minority? ethnic, just groups. everyone dogednere— ethnic, just groups. everyone together? yeah— ethnic, just groups. everyone together? yeah as long as you're not together? yeah as long as you're nod wndde. — together? yeah as long as you're nod wndde. and— together? yeah as long as you're not white. and this— together? yeah as long as you're not white. and this just groups . everyone— not white. and this just groups . everyone who's— not white. and this just groups . everyone who's not straight all . everyone who's not straight or dogedner— . everyone who's not straight or dogedner :— . everyone who's not straight all together , that would annoy all together, that would annoy meld— all together, that would annoy meld-o— all together, that would annoy mell-a different- all together, that would annoy mell-a different .- all together, that would annoy me i a different . well, me if i had a different. well, do— me if i had a different. well, no o— me if i had a different. well, no o bdr— me if i had a different. well, it's a bit like— me if i had a different. well, it's a bit like preference. i'm nod.—

not. you know, i'm not neeeooorddy— not. you know, i'm not necessarily same as not. you know, i'm not- necessarily-same as someone necessarily the same as someone duod— necessarily the same as someone ruod beue— necessarily the same as someone ruod bee od— necessarily the same as someone just because of their preference . dds— just because of their preference . dds-ooydng— just because of their preference . it's-saying that- just because of their preference . it's like saying that through the movement, every the feminist movement, every single exactly the single woman has exactly the same you know, who are the same view. you know, who are the majority in. that's majority of people in. that's why been a majority of people in. that's why-been a teami why i've never been a team dendndod— why i've never been a team dendndod-d- why i've never been a team feminist-i feel- why i've never been a team feminist i feel like why i've never been a team - feminist-i feel like you feminist because i feel like you nove— feminist because i feel like you node—dnen- feminist because i feel like you have _then too.- feminist because i feel like you have _then too. so i have to sign up then too. so nony— have to sign up then too. so nonyon-— have to sign up then too. so many-on other- have to sign up then too. so many on other things, many beliefs on other things, bourbo— many beliefs on other things, bordddeo. dn— many beliefs on other things, politics. on how— many beliefs on other things, politics. on how view politics. on how you view ooededy— politics. on how you view society absolutely everything society on absolutely everything ,-.g.uy_ society on absolutely everything ,-.g.uy.,ua_ society on absolutely everything ,-.g.uy.,ua your- , when really it's just your oexuodddy— , when really it's just your. oexuodddy—you sexuality or the fact that you dndnk—be- sexuality or the fact that you think_ be you think women should be equal. you know:— think women should be equal. you know-bdg— think women should be equal. you know,-big question- know, it's not a big question nere. — know, it's not a big question nere. wny— know, it's not a big question nere. wny do— know, it's not a big question here. �*tfd�*iy r3rt:r t �*"r:ir:ic here. why do corporations feel as though have get these as though they have to get these flags up there? why people flags up there? why did people feel they had to take feel as though they had to take the knee? it's because we currently live in a culture where if don't ridiculously where if you don't ridiculously virtue signal assumption is virtue signal the assumption is either that you are a frothing, racist, homophobe or that you can be accused being one. can be accused of being one. okay? this is absolutely okay? and this is absolutely staggering. fake virtue staggering. so this fake virtue signalling going to signalling like going to sainsbury's a gay sainsbury's and buy a big gay bunch bananas, it's bunch of bananas, it's got a rainbow isn't it? just rainbow flag, isn't it? just it's just it's it's just cheap. it's just it's nonsense. it's cheap. like if dnod— nonsense. it's cheap. like if dnod kdnd— nonsense. it's cheap. like if that kind of— it's cheap. like if that kind of corporate social responsibility— that kind of corporate social responsibility would cost the eonbony— responsibility would cost the company millions of dollars , i company millions of dollars, i woudd— company millions of dollars, i woudd do— company millions of dollars, i woudd do dd.— company millions of dollars, i would do it. they— company millions of dollars, i would do it. they wouldn't do it. would do it. they wouldn't do dd. dd-o— would do it. they wouldn't do dd. dd-oruod— would do it. they wouldn't do do no ruod very:— would do it. they wouldn't do

it. it's just very, very cheap. so it. it's just very, very cheap. so muon— it. it's just very, very cheap. so much money— it. it's just very, very cheap. so much money on- it. it's just very, very cheap. so much money on it,- it. it's just very, very cheap. so much money on it, on, on, on diversity inclusion managers who that but they that kind of separate but they work this kind of stuff or work on this kind of stuff or you have a blm workshop shop at work. one of my former work. my one of my former employers whole employers spent a whole week doing of different doing all of these different workshops. that workshops. what's bad about that ? we've gone from lgbt stuff beue— ? we've gone from lgbt stuff bee dd-o— ? we've gone from lgbt stuff because it's blm— 7’ we've gone from lgbt stuff because it's blm stuff. because it's because it's blm stuff. because dd-o-oboud— because it's blm stuff. because it's-about-officerl it's bad about inclusion officer beuoe— because it's costly to businesses. - because it's costly to businesses. ii- because it's costly to businesses. because it's costly to- businesses.ii think businesses businesses. i think businesses first and foremost. well, i don't of things don't agree with a lot of things that would have had in that they would have had in these workshops, i'm sure. but these workshops, i'm sure. but the is, that it's not the problem is, is that it's not good the businesses either. good for the businesses either. i actually is. it i don't know. it actually is. it is i don't know. it actually is. it do dn— i don't know. it actually is. it do dn o— i don't know. it actually is. it do dn o woy— i don't know. it actually is. it is in a way because- 3 i c it actually is. it is in a way because actually is in a way because it actually an is in a way because it actually on-odddeer-o- is in a way because it actually an-officer's-partj an inclusion officer's job. part of an inclusion officer's job. part od—do— an inclusion officer's job. part of_to actually- of their role is to actually know— of their role is to actually know-dow— of their role is to actually know - law to - of their role is to actually know law to protect the know the law to protect the eonbony— know the law to protect the eonbony non — know the law to protect the company from being by company from being sued by oonebody— company from being sued by oonebody-noy- company from being sued by somebody may an somebody who may have an obreeddon— somebody who may have an. objection _company. objection against the company. so objection against the company. so—dnod-o- objection against the company. so_that's what- objection against the company.| so _that's what you so that's that's that's what you nove— so that's that's that's what you- have a company be hiring someone for—oone- for thousands of pounds to come in for thousands of pounds to come dn—ododd— for thousands of pounds to come dn—ododd oboud- in and tell the staff about wndde— in and tell the staff about white privilege— in and tell the staff about white privilege and then go none. — white privilege and then go home. imean,_ white privilege and then go home. i white privilege and then go- home. imean, seriously, you've home. i mean, seriously, you've sky right you've worked at sky sports right? i mean , sports before, right? i mean, they the sports before, right? i mean, they—the ctiff,| they have gone off the cliff, rdgnd:— they have gone off the cliff, ngn, wddn— they have gone off the cliff, right, with their— they have gone off the cliff, right, with their so involved in wnokoord — right, with their so involved in whakaari and— right, with their so involved in whakaari and walkeri. / �*tfd�*ri whakaari and walkeri. yeah. we odd— whakaari and walkeri. yeah. we were told overnight we had to wear badges for all sorts of

different stuff and some. you had to. yeah, we had to. yeah. well we yeah, we were told it wasn't. honestly think wasn't. honestly i think football wasn't football players it wasn't mandated. i gonna say mandated. i was gonna say i don-d— mandated. i was gonna say i don-d dndnk— mandated. i was gonna say i don't think it's— mandated. i was gonna say i don't think it's legal- 33 i was gonna say i don't think it's legal right. no don't think it's legal right. n._n_ don't think it's legal right. wo—dd wo- don't think it's legal right. wo—dd we- don't think it's legal right. j no_it was we put no it's not but it was we put people were pressure on. people were put pressure on. i was, i was. if you don't you're exoeddy— was, i was. if you don't you're exoeddy wnod— was, i was. if you don't you're exactly what - said. - exactly what patrick said. woue— exactly what patrick said. rodeo—- exactly what patrick said.j you're-a bigot. exactly what patrick said.- you're-a bigot. very you're a racist or a bigot. very dddddeurd. — you're a racist or a bigot. very difficult. very— you're a racist or a bigot. very difficult. r: t you're a racist or a bigot. very difficult. r3 rt..cc difficult. very difficult to object badge. object to putting on a badge. people the poppy, people say about the poppy, dnougn—bdoy- people say about the poppy,. though,_play devil's though, don't they play devil's odwoeodee— though, don't they play devil's advocate? - say, - though, don't they play devil's advocate? say, you know, advocate? they say, you know, dnere-o— advocate? they say, you know, there's - pressure - advocate? they say, you know,. there's - pressure lwear there's so much pressure to wear a there's so much pressure to wear o—dney- there's so much pressure to wear o—dney do. l a poppy. it's almost they do. bud— a poppy. it's almost they do. bud-know— a poppy. it's almost they do. but-know what,- a poppy. it's almost they do. but-know what, though?l a poppy. it's almost they do. j but-know what, though? i but you know what, though? i think going be 1—1 day think it's going to be 1—1 day soon. pride is going soon. that pride flag is going to like sodden patchwork to look like a sodden patchwork quilt. ido. to look like a sodden patchwork quilt. i do. think to look like a sodden patchwork quilt. ido. think there's quilt. i do. i think there's oonedndng— quilt. i do. i think there's. something-aaron quilt. i do. i think there's- something-aaron said, something in in what aaron said, wnen— something in in what aaron said, wndenldnod— something in in what aaron said, wndenldnod d— something in in what aaron said, which-that i mean,— something in in what aaron said, which that i mean, i have which is that i mean, i have. oeen—dodod seen absolutely only the total normalisation— seen absolutely only the total normalisation of— seen absolutely only the total normalisation of a vast smorgasbord- normalisation of a vast smorgasbord of different sexualities, _ smorgasbord of different sexualities, which is as it onoudd— sexualities, which is as it onoudd be:— sexualities, which is as it should be, people shouldn't you onoudd— should be, people shouldn't you onoudd nod— should be, people shouldn't you should not have— should be, people shouldn't you should not have to, you know, go dnrougn— should not have to, you know, go dnrougn-kdnd— should not have to, you know, go through kind bullying through the kind of bullying you wend—kdndi through the kind of bullying you wend—kdnd odi went through at school, kind of buddydng— went through at school, kind of bullying-school- bullying. i saw at school as web.— bullying. i saw at school as well..times. _ bullying. i saw at school as well..times. -i- bullying. i saw at school as well. times. i would bullying. i saw at school as- well..times.-i would hope well. at times. and i would hope dnod— well. at times. and i would hope dnod-odwoyo— well. at times. and i would hope that-always going- well. at times. and i would hope that always going to be that there's always going to be dddodo— that there's always going to be idiots-there's- that there's always going to be idiots there's always idiots out there. there's always going— idiots out there. there's always gong—oud- idiots out there. there's always godng—oud dnere.| going to be bullies out there. bud— going to be bullies out there. bud-none— going to be bullies out there. but-hope that- going to be bullies out there. but hope that that has but i would hope that that has been— but i would hope that that has been squeezed— but i would hope that that has been squeezed into very small been squeezed into a very small ndnorddy— minority. but one thing i would say minority. but one thing i would ooyldnod— minority. but one thing i would ooyldnod ooe— minority. but one thing i would

say-that some of— minority. but one thing i would say that some of these kind say is that some of these kind of bonded — say is that some of these kind of lgbtq+ pressure groups, as it were—we- were, i think when with the odwend— were, i think when with the odwend od— were, i think when with the advent of marriage and the advent of gay marriage and the normalisation— advent of gay marriage and the normalisation maybe normalisation in society, maybe got normalisation in society, maybe god o— normalisation in society, maybe god o rod— normalisation in society, maybe god o rod od— normalisation in society, maybe got a lot of what— normalisation in society, maybe got a lot of what they were ookdng— got a lot of what they were ookdng dor— got a lot of what they were asking for and— got a lot of what they were asking for and wanted and now i'm asking for and wanted and now d-n |wourd— asking for and wanted and now i'm would personally i'm i would be personally concerned that- i'm i would be personally concerned that they want to go dnod— concerned that they want to go dnod-odeb— concerned that they want to go that-step further. - concerned that they want to go that step further. and that one step further. and dnod-o— that one step further. and dnod-o-we- that one step further. and that's-we start- that one step further. and that's we start seeing that's where we start seeing dndngo— things in early years education. but things in early years education. bud—needol things in early years education. bud—needo doi but i just don't think needs to be—. — but i just don't think needs to be—. weor- but i just don't think needs to be—. veob. andi be there exactly. yeah. and that's an interesting point actually. someone actually. as someone on the left, grift as left, do you see the grift as what would brand it as from what i would brand it as from the likes stonewall all who, the likes of stonewall all who, you know, a bit like saint george retirement they've george in retirement they've killed dragon in securing killed the dragon in securing equality for everyone and now of course they're just trying to find make money find other ways to make money and relevant to the and that now relevant to the trans . i try and look at trans debate. i try and look at the trans debate. i try and look at we rebr— trans debate. i try and look at the lgbt stuff— trans debate. i try and look at the lgbt stuff as— trans debate. i try and look at the lgbt stuff as and- 3 i try and look at the lgbt stuff as and obviously i'm the lgbt stuff as and obviously m o— the lgbt stuff as and obviously m o odrodgnd— the lgbt stuff as and obviously i'm a straight heterosexual man, so i'm a straight heterosexual man, oo dnod-o— i'm a straight heterosexual man, oo dnod-o dne— i'm a straight heterosexual man, so that's the caveat— i'm a straight heterosexual man, so that's the caveat . but i try so that's the caveat. but i try ond— so that's the caveat. but i try ond rook— so that's the caveat. but i try ond rook od— so that's the caveat. but i try and look at these— so that's the caveat. but i try and look at these things as oddb— and look at these things as civil liberties— and look at these things as civil liberties issue. fundamentally and i think that's the fundamentally and i think that's dne brdon— fundamentally and i think that's the prism through— fundamentally and i think that's the prism through which i try fundamentally and i think that's the looki through which i try fundamentally and i think that's the look at|rough which i try fundamentally and i think that's the look at stuff] which i try fundamentally and i think that's the look at stuff through try fundamentally and i think that's the look at stuff through and and look at stuff through and i dndnk— and look at stuff through and i own one— and look at stuff through and i think once you— and look at stuff through and i think once you talk about civil ddbendeo— think once you talk about civil ddbendeo dor— think once you talk about civil liberties for children, it odono— liberties for children, it odono do— liberties for children, it starts to get- liberties for children, it starts to get quite ambiguous. dnod— starts to get quite ambiguous. dnod odd:— starts to get quite ambiguous. dnod an, d— starts to get quite ambiguous. that said, i personally feel dnod— that said, i personally feel dnod dd— that said, i personally feel dnod d o— that said, i personally feel that if a young— that said, i personally feel that if a young child wants

dnedr— that if a young child wants their gender— that if a young child wants their gender affirmed rhetorically, they want bondeudor— rhetorically, they want- particular—don't particular pronouns. i don't reodry— really see what that costs oonebody— really see what that costs somebody else. yeah, and i'd ode— somebody else. yeah, and i'd wonder, would— somebody else. yeah, and i'd wonder, would you say, no, we're godng— wonder, would you say, no, we're godng do— wonder, would you say, no, we're godng do eou— wonder, would you say, no, we're going to call you? _ wonder, would you say, no, we're going to call you? some people, they think it costs reality. yeah that's true. can i yeah well, that's true. can i just , how do you yeah well, that's true. can i just-, how do you feel. yeah well, that's true. can i- just-, how do you feel about just ask, how do you feel about brddee— just ask, how do you feel about uddee-on— just ask, how do you feel about brddee-on oo- just ask, how do you feel about pride?-an as an- just ask, how do you feel about pride? an as an event? just ask, how do you feel about pri in? an as an event? just ask, how do you feel about pri in major an as an event? just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities as an event? just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities around event? just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities around europe as in major cities around europe ond—wordde- as in major cities around europe ond—wordde d- as in major cities around europe and—world? i don't. and around the world? i don't remember them _ and around the world? i don't remember them being quite as enoddwe— remember them being quite as emotive contentious as remember them being quite as emotivaup contentious as remember them being quite as emotivaup aboutitious as remember them being quite as emotivaup aboutitiouyears maybe up until about five years ogo. — maybe up until about five years ogo. bo— maybe up until about five years ogo. bo you— maybe up until about five years ago. do you think_ maybe up until about five years ago. do you think it needs some redorndng:— ago. do you think it needs some reforming, maybe— ago. do you think it needs some reforming, maybe scaling reforming, maybe like scaling book— back somehow, or the messages enongede—dode- changed? or is it too late altogether? _ changed? or is it too late altogether? c altogether? i think it's a narcissistic parade of people who show off their who just want to show off their beats the police, get out the beats on the police, get out the baton. yeah. anyway, right, beuoe— baton. yeah. anyway, right, because-leave- i yeah. anyway, right, because leave there. because to leave it there. bdgbd. — because to leave it there. bdgbd. so— because to leave it there. right. so still— because to leave it there. right. so still ahead,- because to leave it there. right. so still ahead, aaron's going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are being let down by importance that were by the importance that were placed universities. and placed on universities. and patrick is going to tell us why asylum seekers who refuse accommodation should just be deported. you're with us saturday, five live on

on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . welcome britain is watching. welcome back to the saturday- i t g welcome back to the saturday five. voue — back to the saturday five. you've been— back to the saturday five. you've been sending us more messages, so i'm— you've been sending us more messages, so i'm going to read out messages, so i'm going to read oud o— messages, so i'm going to read oud o eouoe— messages, so i'm going to read out a couple. jade— messages, so i'm going to read out a couple. jade says, darren, dnod— out a couple. jade says, darren, dnod woo— out a couple. jade says, darren, dnod odnbry— out a couple. jade says, darren, that was simply amazing. lol web.— that was simply amazing. lol web. wnod— that was simply amazing. lol well, what can— that was simply amazing. lol well, what can i— that was simply amazing. lol well, what can i say?- that was simply amazing. lol well, what can i say? jade thank you. peter says you put the pride nonsense perfectly , pride nonsense perfectly, especially regarding our little ones who are our future. well, there you go . lots of- t well, there you go . lots of praise for there you go. lots of praise for bonen— there you go. lots of praise for boren adory— there you go. lots of praise for darren. mary says— there you go. lots of praise for darren. mary says best programme on dw— darren. mary says best programme on w gdweo— darren. mary says best programme on w gdweo ne— darren. mary says best programme on tv gives me hope in the dudure— on tv gives me hope in the dudure-rodo— on tv gives me hope in the future-lots of- on tv gives me hope in the future lots of thought future with lots of thought browokdng — future with lots of thought provoking lovely. thank future with lots of thought provvery; lovely. thank future with lots of thought provvery much lovely. thank future with lots of thought provvery much forovely. thank future with lots of thought provvery much for sending ank future with lots of thought provvery much for sending those you very much for sending those in. you very much for sending those dn. ddeooe— you very much for sending those dn. ddeooe do— you very much for sending those in. please do keep— you very much for sending those in. please do keep them coming.

we in. please do keep them coming. we—bud- in. please do keep them coming. we—bud now- in. please do keep them coming. we_but now it's. we like the praise, but now it's odne— we like the praise, but now it's odne-our— we like the praise, but now it's time .our-debate. - we like the praise, but now it's time our debate. time for our next debate. up newn— time for our next debate. up now. do— time for our next debate. up next, it's time— time for our next debate. up next, it's time for— time for our next debate. up next, it's time for some socialist sugar. aaron is called to tell us why a generation of millennial marxists have been let down by the import . once we let down by the import. once we place on universities and how we fund them. it's time for boston's broadside . take it boston's broadside. take it away. aaron, i'm loving these dndroo— away. aaron, i'm loving these dndroo :— away. aaron, i'm loving these dndroo : oo— away. aaron, i'm loving these dndroo : oo d— away. aaron, i'm loving these intros , so i want— away. aaron, i'm loving these intros , so i want to- aaron, i'm loving these intros , so i want to make intros, so i want to make a brood— intros, so i want to make a brood obbeod— intros, so i want to make a broad appeal here to many people oeduoddy— broad appeal here to many people oeduodry on— broad appeal here to many people oeduorry on nod— broad appeal here to many people actually on not just— broad appeal here to many people actually on not just the left, bud— actually on not just the left, bud dne— actually on not just the left, bud dne rdgnd— actually on not just the left, but the right in— actually on not just the left, but the right in the centre, doo. — but the right in the centre, doo. and— but the right in the centre, too. and that's— but the right in the centre, too. and that's to say that our undweroddy— too. and that's to say that our university sector— too. and that's to say that our university sector isn't working in university sector isn't working dn dndo— university sector isn't working in this country. _ university sector isn't working in this country. they have in this country. we they have been— in this country. we they have been-very— in this country. we they have been-very ndgn- in this country. we they have been very high esteem been held in very high esteem for been held in very high esteem dor eendury— been held in very high esteem for century his— been held in very high esteem for century his we— been held in very high esteem for century his we have several undwerodddeo— for century his we have several undwerodddeo dn— for century his we have several universities in the— for century his we have several universities in the world's top 20 dn— universities in the world's top 20 dn dndo— universities in the world's top 20 in this country. so they are oboodude— 20 in this country. so they are absolute truly— 20 in this country. so they are absolute truly world class institutions,— absolute truly world class institutions, but they're dodrdng— institutions, but they're failing people who graduate from dnen — failing people who graduate from dnen wddn— failing people who graduate from them with massive amounts of debr— them with massive amounts of debd .— them with massive amounts of debd . and— them with massive amounts of debt . and _the- them with massive amounts of debt . and the same time, debt. and also at the same time, we're not producing— debt. and also at the same time, we're not producing enough doedoro— we're not producing enough doctors, nurses— we're not producing enough doctors, nurses is huge onordogeo— doctors, nurses is huge ononogeo dn— doctors, nurses is huge shortages in a range of professions— shortages in a range of professions and perhaps most dnbononddy:— professions and perhaps most importantly, and— professions and perhaps most importantly, and this is oonedndng— importantly, and this is something we don't talk about enougn— something we don't talk about enougn wnen— something we don't talk about enough when it— something we don't talk about enough when it comes to universities— enough when it comes to universities is— enough when it comes to universities is the graduate ddwddend—

universities is the graduate dividend. average male dividend. so the average male groduode— dividend. so the average male graduate-country- dividend. so the average male graduate country earns graduate in this country earns roud— graduate in this country earns around £153,000— graduate in this country earns around £153,000 more than they wourd— around £153,000 more than they woudd nove— around £153,000 more than they woudd nowe dd— around £153,000 more than they would have if they— around £153,000 more than they would have if they hadn't gone to would have if they hadn't gone do undweroddy— would have if they hadn't gone do undweroddy .— would have if they hadn't gone to university . now, in the to university. now, in the dndded— to university. now, in the united states,- to university. now, in the united states, that figure is amoeb— united states, that figure is £420,000. obviously translated dron— £420,000. obviously translated from doddoro— £420,000. obviously translated from dollars into— £420,000. obviously translated from dollars into pounds. so dnod— from dollars into pounds. so that dividend— from dollars into pounds. so that dividend from studying at undweroddy— that dividend from studying at undweroddy do— that dividend from studying at university is almost three times ndgner— university is almost three times ndgner dn— university is almost three times ndgner dn dne— university is almost three times higher in the us— university is almost three times higher in the us ._ university is almost three times higher in the us. in france and eernony:— higher in the us. in france and gamay, dd-o— higher in the us. in france and germany, it's around £250,000. so germany, it's around £250,000. so odgndddeond— germany, it's around £250,000. so significant higher still. so we nove— so significant higher still. so we have major,— so significant higher still. so we have major, major problems wddn— we have major, major problems wddn regordo— we have major, major problems with regards to— we have major, major problems with regards to higher education.— with regards to higher education. it's not working for groduodeo— education. it's not working for graduates because they're in massive amounts of debt, often it massive amounts of debt, often dd doeon-d— massive amounts of debt, often dd doeon-d boy— massive amounts of debt, often it doesn't pay for— massive amounts of debt, often it doesn't pay for them to study . ruod— it doesn't pay for them to study . ruod rook— it doesn't pay for them to study no book or— it doesn't pay for them to study . just look at a— it doesn't pay for them to study . just look at a nurse. they're oeedng— . just look at a nurse. they're oeedng dorrdng— . just look at a nurse. they're seeing falling real pay because the government— seeing falling real pay because the government won't give them pay-at— the government won't give them boy-ad rne— the government won't give them boy-ad dne oone- the government won't give them pay at the same time , pay rises. at the same time, dney— pay rises. at the same time, dney-nowe— pay rises. at the same time, they have £50,000 worth of they may have £50,000 worth of debd— they may have £50,000 worth of debd ond— they may have £50,000 worth of debd ond dd-o— they may have £50,000 worth of debt and it's not— they may have £50,000 worth of debt and it's not working eddber— debt and it's not working either. and— debt and it's not working either. and this is hugely dnbonond— either. and this is hugely important for— either. and this is hugely important for people never important for people who never groduoded— important for people who never graduated either— important for people who never graduated either because you dwe— graduated either because you ddwe dn— graduated either because you ddwe dn o— graduated either because you live in a country— graduated either because you live in a country where we don't nove— live in a country where we don't nowe enougn— live in a country where we don't have enough teachers, nurses as doedoro— have enough teachers, nurses as doctors, massive _ have enough teachers, nurses as doctors, massive shortages in woeoddono— doctors, massive shortages in vocations that— doctors, massive shortages in vocations that create real value from — vocations that create real value from eonbuder— vocations that create real value from computer science to engdneerdng— from computer science to engdneerdng .— from computer science to engineering . and i think we need engineering. and i think we need a engineering. and i think we need o oenodbde— engineering. and i think we need

a sensible conversation about now— a sensible conversation about now we— a sensible conversation about now we do— a sensible conversation about now we do dd— a sensible conversation about now we do dd dn— a sensible conversation about how we do it in this country. and— how we do it in this country. and we— how we do it in this country. and we shouldn't just demonise odudendo— and we shouldn't just demonise odudendo wno— and we shouldn't just demonise students who lower fees and students who want lower fees and beoo— students who want lower fees and deoo debd— students who want lower fees and less debt because— students who want lower fees and less debt because there's a big oerooddon— less debt because there's a big conversation about the public good— conversation about the public good ond— conversation about the public good ond now— conversation about the public good and how we do things differently. _ good and how we do things differently. may- good and how we do things differently. kitty 7’ i irtttri differently. may i? but in there that that was great. but could that that was great. but could that dividend be explained actually by the funding models of universities? because in america they are so expensive and you have to pay some of it upfront. of course, so that people are more selective with the courses that they choose because yours. would you admit that in this country we, the young people have sometimes been guided towards degrees guided wrongly towards degrees that will add no benefit to their career. they've been told dney— their career. they've been told dney-onydndng- their career. they've been told they-anything told,- t t tririt they've been told they anything told, they they can be anything told, they can they can be anything told, they eonlonydndng— they can be anything told, they can-anything put— they can be anything told, they can anything put on courses can be anything put on courses ond— can be anything put on courses ond eruon— can be anything put on courses and crush their— can be anything put on courses and crush their dreams. sociology-— and crush their dreams. sodorogy. so— and crush their dreams. sociology. so sociology or something like that at a second rate university or third rate rate university or a third rate university city, they may have not in their not done very well in their a—levels at all. they're put in university where they huge university where they have huge amounts and then , you amounts of debt and then, you know, they're not know, of course they're not going better as going to get a betterjob as a result. so going to get a betterjob as a result . so i don't think that's result. so i don't think that's rne— result. so i don't think that's dne ornrnon— so i don't think that's the common experience for most

odudendo.— the common experience for most odudendo. so— the common experience for most students. so most— the common experience for most students. so most who students. so most people who odudy— students. so most people who odudy dn— students. so most people who odudy dn dndo— students. so most people who study in this country are doing buodneoo— study in this country are doing business-that's- business degrees. that's the ddrod—beobde- business degrees. that's the. first—people aren't first thing. most people aren't odudydng—or- first thing. most people aren't studying or foreign studying humanities or foreign ronguogeo.— languages. most people are odudydng— languages. most people are odudydng-and- languages. most people are studying-and i. languages. most people are studying and i think studying business. and i think doredgn— studying business. and i think foreign languages. 5cr3 foreign languages. i study dnooe.— foreign languages. i study those. degree. those. that's a proper degree. you know, i'm not sorry, i'm not bnoekdng— you know, i'm not sorry, i'm not bnoekdng n,— you know, i'm not sorry, i'm not knocking it, but— you know, i'm not sorry, i'm not knocking it, but think so. knocking it, but i think so. dnod-o— knocking it, but i think so. dnod-o one— knocking it, but i think so. that's the point, is that that's the first point, is that very—oeduodry- that's the first point, is that. very—actually study very few people actually study dneoe—dnod- very few people actually study. these _that.tend these these degrees that we tend to-casfigate. — these these degrees that we tend to-castigate. .we- these these degrees that we tend to-castigate.-we can. to really castigate. and we can have— to really castigate. and we can have lconversation- to really castigate. and we can have conversation about have a conversation about whether— have a conversation about whether-we- have a conversation about whether we should be whether or not we should be studying— studying them. but they're not the mjor— studying them. but they're not the major problem. the major problem— the major problem. the major problem-me— the major problem. the major problem-me is— the major problem. the major problem-me is i- the major problem. the major problem me is i would agree problem for me is i would agree probably— problem for me is i would agree probably to— problem for me is i would agree probably to some— problem for me is i would agree probably to some extent with you,— probably to some extent with you, which— probably to some extent with you, which is— probably to some extent with you, which is that we don't have enough— you, which is that we don't have enough hhhhhe— you, which is that we don't have enough peophe h— you, which is that we don't have enough people in the right jobs. we heed— enough people in the right jobs. we heed to— enough people in the right jobs. we heed to he— enough people in the right jobs. we need to be a— enough people in the right jobs. we need to be a successful society— we need to be a successful eoehehy h— we need to be a successful society in economy nursing. like i society in economy nursing. like h eoo— society in economy nursing. like h soy, doctore— society in economy nursing. like h soy, eoehore .— society in economy nursing. like i say, doctors , engineers, i say, doctors, engineers, computer— i say, doctors, engineers, computer scientist . s that's computer scientist. s that's a hop-— computer scientist. s that's a hop-o hop-o— computer scientist. s that's a major, major problem. that's a hop-o— major, major problem. that's a hop-o worry— major, major problem. that's a hop-o worry he— major, major problem. that's a major worry kid to— major, major problem. that's a major worry kid to scrap their heoho— major worry kid to scrap their media degree. _ major worry kid to scrap their media degree. ': major worry kid to scrap their media degree. ' 2 f major worry kid to scrap their media degree. 2 f media degree. and actually, you know, why don't you go and we should study sciences and become doctors. i'll say one quick hhhp. — doctors. i'll say one quick thing. would— doctors. i'll say one quick thing. would you- :f i'll say one quick thing. : doctors. i'll say one quick thing. would you say everyone should be choose what.7 should be able to choose what.7 well i'll just all pay well i'll say i'll just all pay for it. i that you don't for it. i think that you don't have to. you shouldn't have to go have to. you shouldn't have to ito—be- go to university to be a success. and - go to university to be a success. and i- go to university to be a success. and i think along with

rehhhhhp— success. and i think along with rethinking education, the rethinking higher education, the fact rethinking higher education, the hoot-we— rethinking higher education, the hoe-we pey— rethinking higher education, the fact we pay apprentices the fact that we pay apprentices the minimum— fact that we pay apprentices thei hhhhuh—h minimum wage for apprentices in this minimum wage for apprentices in hhh-hhhh— minimum wage for apprentices in this-thinklabout- this country, i think is about peso. — this country, i think is about £4.50. - shocking. this country, i think is about £4.50. shocking what £4.50. it's crazy shocking what 16 £4.50. it's crazy shocking what he yeor— £4.50. it's crazy shocking what he yeoe om— £4.50. it's crazy shocking what 16 year old kid— £4.50. it's crazy shocking what 16 year old kid is— £4.50. it's crazy shocking what 16 year old kid is going to want to work— 16 year old kid is going to want to work for— 16 year old kid is going to want to work for that— 16 year old kid is going to want to work for that money. well, hook,— to work for that money. well, hooh h— to work for that money. well, hooh h o— to work for that money. well, look, in a few— to work for that money. well, look, in a few years you'll be a hhehhoyer— look, in a few years you'll be a hhehoyer or— look, in a few years you'll be a bricklayer or you'll— look, in a few years you'll be a bricklayer or you'll an bricklayer or you'll be an electrician—bel bricklayer or you'll be an . electrician—be on electrician and you'll be on geot— electrician and you'll be on ppeoh honey— electrician and you'll be on great money. 16— electrician and you'll be on great money. 16 year olds don't hhhh— great money. 16 year olds don't hhhh-hhoh — great money. 16 year olds don't think-that. |n_ great money. 16 year olds don't think-that. in .samel think like that. in the same way we're that university we're told that the university is the key to all is going to be the key to all of our future success. maybe our future success. then maybe they would. but isn't this yet another— they would. but isn't this yet another-h- they would. but isn't this yet another-in this- they would. but isn't this yet. another-in this country? another problem in this country? coh— another problem in this country? can—tony- another problem in this country? con—pony hhoh- can trace back to tony blair, you— can trace back to tony blair, you-education,- can trace back to tony blair, you education, that can trace back to tony blair, you-education, that is you know, education, that man is oheohuheh— you know, education, that man is homey—.- you know, education, that man is absolutely_. you- you know, education, that man is absolutely_. you can| absolutely unflushable. you can spray— absolutely unflushable. you can eppoy every— absolutely unflushable. you can eppoy every ehghe— absolutely unflushable. you can spray every single societal tony— spray every single societal issue, tony blair if you look horo— issue, tony blair if you look p...p enough— issue, tony blair if you look hard enough, but we need to also shop— hard enough, but we need to also stop stigmatising_ hard enough, but we need to also stop stigmatising people who, here— stop stigmatising people who, here-theore— stop stigmatising people who, let's-they're not- stop stigmatising people who, let's they're not made for let's say they're not made for p..— let's say they're not made for the woy— let's say they're not made for the way hoe— let's say they're not made for the way that we _ let's say they're not made for the way that we are examined in eehoohe— the way that we are examined in eehooh oh— the way that we are examined in schools at the— the way that we are examined in schools at the moment. that was the-point— schools at the moment. that was the-pohe oh— schools at the moment. that was the-point of the- schools at the moment. that was the point of the grammar, schools at the moment. that was the grammarint of the grammar, schools at the moment. that was the grammar systemhe grammar, schools at the moment. that was the grammar system stigmatising pp...— the grammar system stigmatising them-sav— the grammar system stigmatising them-eoy-puehl them go and say to them, just pphehh— them go and say to them, just pphehhp—hooh- them go and say to them, just quickly,-look, if- them go and say to them, just quickly, look, if you quickly, you know, look, if you do quickly, you know, look, if you oo-ho— quickly, you know, look, if you oo-ho 90— quickly, you know, look, if you oo-ho go-get- do want to go and get a practice— do want to go and get a practical trade, we should hold hoe— practical trade, we should hold hoe-esteem- practical trade, we should hold that-esteem .a - that in higher esteem as a society— that in higher esteem as a society-we— that in higher esteem as a society we actually society than we actually do. thore— society than we actually do. that'slgrammar- society than we actually do.- that'slgrammar-goes that's a grammar system goes operated—om. - that's a grammar system goes operated—old. kids operated at 11 years old. kids who— operated at 11 years old. kids who went— operated at 11 years old. kids who went eo— operated at 11 years old. kids who went to grammar school maybe went into more cognitive who went to grammar school maybe went into nfrom ognitive who went to grammar school maybe went into nfrom those re went who went to grammar school maybe wen'more nfrom those re went who went to grammar school maybe

wen'more vocational;ele went into more vocational professions, went to technical school, schools. school, left grammar schools. yes. i think that, know, yes. i think that, you know, wow-re— yes. i think that, you know, whee—hoe- yes. i think that, you know, you're—kids at. yes. i think that, you know, you're—kids at a| you're writing off kids at a younger— you're writing off kids at a younger age— you're writing off kids at a younger age and it's not good for epwohhw— younger age and it's not good for equality, etcetera, eheehero— for equality, etcetera, etcetera. but i don't i don't understand— etcetera. but i don't i don't understand that— etcetera. but i don't i don't understand that argument. i'll tell—right?l understand that argument. i'lli hen—eighth my tell you something. right? my business let, right? business is buy to let, right? i have properties i have a student properties and i rent to students. and rent them out to students. and so see. so i see as so i see. so i see as applications coming in mostly from overseas actually. and i've noficed noticed that the intake i get from and from africa and in asia and places like that, they don't come to do of courses come to do some of the courses that you're about. that you're talking about. they're to do they're they're coming to do stuff leads directly to stuff that leads directly to a job. at job. they're not doing it at fashionable as fashionable universities. as i went to places like staffordshire and staffordshire university and central lancashire and places like that, these aren't fashionable universities. they aren't, they aren't abbott league or abbott group universities, but they're choosing courses that lead directly work. whether directly to work. whether they do or go back do that work here or go back home it there. it's very home and do it there. it's very interesting because they're strategizing they're strategizing and they're making their pointed. but their choices more pointed. but aaron though, is your ” (“0 f “us: but aaron though, is your argument that— aaron though, is your argument thee-oe— aaron though, is your argument hhoh-oe hor— aaron though, is your argument that-as far as- aaron though, is your argument that-as far as the- that actually, as far as the debt— that actually, as far as the debt burden— that actually, as far as the debt burden is— that actually, as far as the debt burden is concerned, that we—feesl we should scrap certain fees ohoeehher— we should scrap certain fees altogether for. _ we should scrap certain fees altogether for. “in? " we should scrap certain fees altogether for. “43?" “

their existing debt and i think we probably scrap tuition we should probably scrap tuition fees subjects. fees for certain subjects. people would agree with on people would agree with you on how— people would agree with you on how-oom— that, but i don't see why a hairdresser— that, but i don't see why a hairdresser in— that, but i don't see why a hairdresser in kendal be hairdresser in kendal should be paying— hairdresser in kendal should be powhp-ewoehh- hairdresser in kendal should be paying-student-ofl paying for the student loan of someone _well- paying for the student loan of someone _well in- someone doing well in knightsbridge, example. well knightsbridge, for example. well you ooh— knightsbridge, for example. well you sav— knightsbridge, for example. well you eow phot— knightsbridge, for example. well you can say that about any phone— you can say that about any pwhhe-wow- you can say that about anyi pwhhe-wow-eow public service you could say that— public service you could say that-transport- that around transport infrastructure. that infrastructure. you can say that about because point about the nhs, because the point is i'm going have is drive. but i'm going to have to shop— is drive. but i'm going to have to shop-there.— is drive. but i'm going to have to stop-there. well,- : ” but i'm going to have to stop there. well, they to stop you there. well, they might— to stop you there. well, they might-oh— to stop you there. well, they might-on that- to stop you there. well, they might on that note. oh might use it on that note. oh shu— might use it on that note. oh ehh .p...p,_ might use it on that note. oh still ahead, last— might use it on that note. oh still ahead, last but not least, mav— still ahead, last but not least, mayljust— still ahead, last but not least, may just sociology may i just say that sociology i ween-h— may i just say that sociology ii wasn't—sociology. wasn't slagging off sociology. i wasn't slagging off sociology. l-savin9_ wasn't slagging off sociology. l-saving phot- wasn't slagging off sociology. i-saying that it's- wasn't slagging off sociology. i-saying that it's not. wasn't slagging off sociology. ilhighisaying that it's not. wasn't slagging off sociology. i high earning1g that it's not wasn't slagging off sociology. i high earning degree it's not wasn't slagging off sociology. i high earning degree ifs not wasn't slagging off sociology. i high earning degree if yout a high earning degree if you look at the stats. anyway, still ahead, but not least, ahead, last but not least, patrick to tell why patrick is going to tell us why asylum seekers refuse asylum seekers who refuse accommodation asylum seekers who refuse accommoortion asylum seekers who refuse accommoor study sociology with deported or study sociology with the saturday live on gb the saturday five live on gb news is .

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really. have too much rooms, very small bathroom, too small . very small bathroom, too small. yeah, too much. i'm so sorry about— yeah, too much. i'm so sorry about that.— yeah, too much. i'm so sorry about that. that's- yeah, too much. i'm so sorry about that. that's really, really— about that. that's really, really shocking that the bathroom — really shocking that the bathroom is— really shocking that the bathroom is too small. but you howe— bathroom is too small. but you have wot—h— bathroom is too small. but you have wh—h .— bathroom is too small. but you have wi—fi .-yeah,- bathroom is too small. but you. have wi—fi .-yeah,-have have wi—fi. yeah. yeah, you have wot—h.— have wi—fi. yeah. yeah, you have wh—hh-wh—h— have wi—fi. yeah. yeah, you have wh—hh-wh—h he— have wi—fi. yeah. yeah, you have wi—fi.-wi—fi is a- have wi—fi. yeah. yeah, you have wi—fi. wi—fi is a good or wi—fi. wi—fi wi—fi is a good or hoo— wi—fi. wi—fi wi—fi is a good or hot for— wi—fi. wi—fi wi—fi is a good or hot forwowe— wi—fi. wi—fi wi—fi is a good or bad for you? yeah.— wi—fi. wi—fi wi—fi is a good or bad for you? yeah. £8. so you get— bad for you? yeah. £8. so you get ee— bad for you? yeah. £8. so you get to o— bad for you? yeah. £8. so you get to o week— bad for you? yeah. £8. so you get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation— get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation .— get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation . you get free accommodation. you get free tit—th— accommodation. you get free wt—tt. hut— accommodation. you get free wi—fi. but the— accommodation. you get free wi—fi. but the wi—fi is a bit stow.— wi—fi. but the wi—fi is a bit etow. th— wi—fi. but the wi—fi is a bit etow. m sorry— wi—fi. but the wi—fi is a bit slow. i'm sorry about that . slow. i'm sorry about that. wett— slow. i'm sorry about that. we-tt tw— slow. i'm sorry about that. wet to opt— slow. i'm sorry about that. we'll try and see if we can help . vee— we'll try and see if we can help . vee- wett— we'll try and see if we can help . yes. well there— we'll try and see if we can help . yes. well there we— we'll try and see if we can help . yes. well there we go. okay. i the— . yes. well there we go. okay. i mean, the reality is that the european union is treating asylum seekers worse than we are . and these people in many cases have travelled across to two continents and they clearly have not been happy with the treatment anyway . where they've treatment anyway. where they've gone, they are not asylum seekers in my view. they are asylum shoppers. so those are my views. okay, aaron, what do you think ? it was a strange video, think? it was a strange video, hot— think? it was a strange video, hot what— think? it was a strange video, hot what to— think? it was a strange video, but what i'd say— think? it was a strange video, but what i'd say to— “

youngish people, they're in a really— youngish people, they're in a really strange— youngish people, they're in a really strange situation. they ooh-t— really strange situation. they ooh-t wow.— really strange situation. they can't work. yeah,— really strange situation. they can't work. yeah, they can't earn money. they can't access the— earn money. they can't access the thee— earn money. they can't access the thte ot— earn money. they can't access the kinds of things which give us self—respect— the kinds of things which give us self—respect .— the kinds of things which give us self—respect . and i feel us self—respect. and i feel the,— us self—respect. and i feel the, otow— us self—respect. and i feel the, otow tt— us self—respect. and i feel like, okay, it seems strange to say— like, okay, it seems strange to sow tt— like, okay, it seems strange to sow tt wow-we— like, okay, it seems strange to say if you've been— like, okay, it seems strange to say if you've been in sangatte or e oomp— say if you've been in sangatte or e eohp city— say if you've been in sangatte or a camp city in— say if you've been in sangatte or a camp city in in france and sow— or a camp city in in france and eow wett— or a camp city in in france and say, well, actually— or a camp city in in france and say, well, actually this room in eehttot— say, well, actually this room in central london _ say, well, actually this room in central london isn't good enough. — central london isn't good enough. hut— central london isn't good enough. but i— central london isn't good enough. but i can absolutely see why— enough. but i can absolutely see who thew— enough. but i can absolutely see who they wowtt — enough. but i can absolutely see why they would be— enough. but i can absolutely see why they would be miserable, tepteeeet. — why they would be miserable, depressed. and— why they would be miserable, depressed. and do depressed. and i do think a etghttteoht— depressed. and i do think a significant amount that could significant amount of that could be significant amount of that could he htttgotet— significant amount of that could he htttgotet tw— significant amount of that could be mitigated by letting them wort. — be mitigated by letting them wott. vow— be mitigated by letting them work. you think_ be mitigated by letting them work. 4:3. : be mitigated by letting them work. /:::. work. you think you should let them my argument with that them work? my argument with that would be that we don't know who a these people are or a lot of these people are or necessarily where necessarily exactly where they've there will necessarily exactly where the some there will necessarily exactly where the some security there will necessarily exactly where the some security issues here will necessarily exactly where the some security issues at 'e will necessarily exactly where the some security issues at playl be some security issues at play there would be my there as well. that would be my primary concern. they as primary concern. they do work as wet.— primary concern. they do work as wet thew— primary concern. they do work as wet thew-to— primary concern. they do work as wet thew-to tt— primary concern. they do work as well. they-do it on- primary concern. they do work as well. they-do it on and- “33 ff they do work as well. they do it on and we well. they just do it on and we howe— well. they just do it on and we havelwork_ well. they just do it on and we have lwork-system- well. they just do it on and we have work system and that have a work visa system and that wowtt— have a work visa system and that wowtt-o— have a work visa system and that wowtt-o totot— have a work visa system and that would a total mockery of would make a total mockery of that. — would make a total mockery of that. tt— would make a total mockery of that. if anyone,— would make a total mockery of that. if anyone, if— would make a total mockery of that. if anyone, if you- would make a total mockery of that. �*" �*" tit“ that. if anyone, if you jump on a and cross the channel, a dinghy and cross the channel, then work here with no then you can work here with no problems. is problems. i think what is ridiculous with you ridiculous and i agree with you on is just how long on this one, is just how long they are kept these they are being kept in these hotels. absolutely. they knew hotels. absolutely. if they knew that to three that it was going to be three months, got yes no, months, you've got a yes no, then wouldn't be then they probably wouldn't be kicking fuss. but kicking up this fuss. right. but they more it. i

they should make more of it. i think we should seriously be pwtthg— think we should seriously be pwtthg wteo— think we should seriously be putting video like that out and heohhg— putting video like that out and- beaming—channel, beaming them across the channel, heeowee— beaming them across the channel, heeoweelpeopte— beaming them across the channel, because people seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat people seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls! seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls aieriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls a land sly beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls a land of think that this is a land of httt— think that this is a land of httt-hohew- think that this is a land of milk-honey-i'ml think that this is a land of milk honey i'm not milk and honey and i'm not ewpheet— milk and honey and i'm not surprised given— milk and honey and i'm not surprised given the that in surprised given the fact that in some cases, like— surprised given the fact that in some cases, like in greece, thew-te— some cases, like in greece, they're then they're kept on islands and then thew— they're kept on islands and then thew-okay,— they're kept on islands and then thew-otow wow-we- they're kept on islands and then they okay, you've been they are told, okay, you've been granted— granted refugee, your asylum statue,— granted refugee, your asylum statue—towel granted refugee, your asylum statue—tows toi status, you've got 30 days to get— status, you've got 30 days to get-ot— status, you've got 30 days to get-ot hete — status, you've got 30 days to get-of here with- status, you've got 30 days to get of here with real get out of here with no real eoheeh— get out of here with no real chance-job— get out of here with no real chance .job or- get out of here with no real chance job or anything to chance of a job or anything to hoeteottw— basically a homeless. so they moved— basically a homeless. so they mowed-oh— basically a homeless. so they moved-on,-wouldj basically a homeless. so they. moved-on,-would be moved them on, which would be oteotwtetw—otl absolutely advertising some of the— absolutely advertising some of the-sow— absolutely advertising some of thte-eow toot,— absolutely advertising some of this say, look, you're not this and say, look, you're not going— this and say, look, you're not gohglhe— this and say, look, you're not going-be happy,- this and say, look, you're not going be happy, so don't going to be happy, so don't bother— going to be happy, so don't bother lot bother coming. but also a lot of people pointed that people have pointed out that they love live in they would love to live in central london in zone one. pimlico, the most pimlico, one of the most expensive country. expensive areas of the country. and have strange, and we have this strange, bizarre situation have bizarre situation where you have asylum seekers in prime property, real estate in central london. well more and more people are having to move out and out and out and out and out. and tell you what, the sight and i tell you what, the sight of actually, that the of reading actually, that the home officials went in home office officials went in after this protest and after seeing this protest and thought, well, we've got to deal with this. what about a whole host— with this. what about a whole host-problems— with this. what about a whole host-problems that- what about a whole host problems that we've got host of problems that we've got going— host of problems that we've got gohglwhete— host of problems that we've got going-where-aren't. going on where crimes aren't hehg— going on where crimes aren't being investigated? know , being investigated? you know, got— being investigated? you know, got tow— being investigated? you know, we've got law and order running

emot— we've got law and order running ohot h— we've got law and order running ohot th the— we've got law and order running amok in this country. if you amok in this country. but if you come here illegally, rock up and say come here illegally, rock up and sew wow-te— come here illegally, rock up and sew wowe hot— come here illegally, rock up and say you're not happy with your wow— say you're not happy with your wow gut— say you're not happy with your wow gtwh ot— say you're not happy with your your grub or your— say you're not happy with your your grub or your the your grub or your wi—fi, the home— your grub or your wi—fi, the home office— your grub or your wi—fi, the home office will— your grub or your wi—fi, the home office will come out and pot— home office will come out and sort tt— home office will come out and sort tt owt— home office will come out and sort tt owtlwow. — home office will come out and sort it out-you. no- sort it out for you. no questions. - sort it out for you. no questions. i- sort it out for you. no questions. gig sort it out for you. no questions. g: sort it out for you. no- questions. i get i mean, i was dead against the iraq war and i think made amount of think we made a huge amount of mistakes afghanistan. so i'm mistakes in afghanistan. so i'm not the fact that not disputing the fact that there people in those there are people in those countries you countries who do need help. you know, he's iraqi. that's just know, if he's iraqi. that's just what what i do what he said. but what i do know, what i do know is that there are people who fought for this iraq in this country in iraq and in afghanistan are homeless. this country in iraq and in afghtherein are homeless. this country in iraq and in afghthere are are homeless. this country in iraq and in afghthere are people �*iomeless. this country in iraq and in afghthere are people fromless. this country in iraq and in afghthere are people from those and there are people from those countries who we are giving free hotels to. i would say, look, just to add to what people have already said here, i think it's partly i said, can't partly like i said, it can't work. a miserable work. it's a very miserable eweeheet — work. it's a very miserable existence. but— it's a very miserable existence. but also it's not the— existence. but also it's not ttte-ptteoh- existence. but also it's not. like-prison because, existence. but also it's not- like-prison because, of like being in prison because, of eoweeow—v- like being in prison because, of eoweeow—v eohi course, you can leave. you can wow— course, you can leave. you can wow ooh— course, you can leave. you can wow watt— course, you can leave. you can you can walk-but- course, you can leave. you can you can walk but that you can walk around. but that poeee— you can walk around. but that process-several- you can walk around. but that process several years , process being several years, egoth— process being several years, egoth tt— process being several years, egoth tt hwet— process being several years, again, it must be incredibly hteetohte.— again, it must be incredibly miserable. there's again, it must be incredibly miserable-there's of miserable. and there's a part of me miserable. and there's a part of the—how- miserable. and there's a part of he—hhohw ot- miserable. and there's a part of he—hhohw ot wow| miserable. and there's a part of. he—hhohw oh wow gwwe me and i'm sure many of you guys htght—thte,- might disagree with this, there-e— might disagree with this, there-e-ot- might disagree with this, there's-of me- might disagree with this, there's of me that might disagree with this,- there's-of me that thinks there's a part of me that thinks there's a part of me that thinks the totes— there's a part of me that thinks the tories want— there's a part of me that thinks the tories want this process to be the tories want this process to toe—ont- the tories want this process to he—oht tohg- the tories want this process to- be_and long winded the tories want this process to bbecause and long winded the tories want this process to bbecause fundamentally,] winded the tories want this process to bbecause fundamentally, theided , because fundamentally, the mote-the— , because fundamentally, the more _the issue -

, because fundamentally, the more the issue of more we have the issue of tttegot— more we have the issue of illegal migration us up the up the hewee— illegal migration us up the up the issues in— illegal migration us up the up the issues in terms of the most potent— the issues in terms of the most salient issue,— the issues in terms of the most salient issue, it— the issues in terms of the most salient issue, it plays very wett— salient issue, it plays very wett tot— salient issue, it plays very well for us. _ salient issue, it plays very well for us. but- salient issue, it plays very well for us. but i think you htght— well for us. but i think you htght he— well for us. but i think you might be right,— well for us. but i think you might be right, i'm not. might be right, but i'm not. th— might be right, but i'm not. the hot.— might be right, but i'm not. the hot. so— might be right, but i'm not. the hot. so .— might be right, but i'm not. i'm not. so i think- might be right, but i'm not. so i think the numbers, i'm not. so i think the numbers, the hwhhee— i'm not. so i think the numbers, the numbers of— so i think the numbers, the numbers of immigration, the treatment— the numbers of immigration, the treatment ot— the numbers of immigration, the treatment of immigration is as it treatment of immigration is as ttlheeowee— treatment of immigration is as it because government's it is, because government's successive governments over the teet— successive governments over the toot—theotwtetwi last 20, 25 years are absolutely happy—and- last 20, 25 years are absolutely hoppw—aht oh- last 20, 25 years are absolutely hoppw—aht oh wowi happy where it is. and on your poht— happy where it is. and on your poet-tt— happy where it is. and on your poop-p, the— happy where it is. and on your point it, the inability to point about it, the inability to wow— point about it, the inability to wow-thht— point about it, the inability to work-think that- point about it, the inability to work think that is work back, i think that is oetwottw— work back, i think that is actually counterproductive work back, i think that is actually that'szrproductive work back, i think that is actually that'szrproditheye work back, i think that is actually that'szrprodithey drift because that's when they drift hto— because that's when they drift tho—.— because that's when they drift hto—. that-e- into criminality. that's when thew— into criminality. that's when thew-tohg— into criminality. that's wheni they-doing-that's they start doing drugs. that's when— they start doing drugs. that's. when—involved when they start getting involved in when they start getting involved h—htght- when they start getting involved h—htght geti in anything else they might get hwotwet— in anything else they might get hwotwet h— in anything else they might get involved in and— in anything else they might get involved in and causing problems involved in and causing problems h—etttee.— involved in and causing problems h—etttee. so— involved in and causing problems in_cities. so you- in towns and cities. so you wowtth-t— in towns and cities. so you wouldn't want— in towns and cities. so you wouldn't want to in towns and cities. so you wouldn't want-to no, wouldn't want them to work? no, i i wouldn't want them to work? no, ._. wowtt— wouldn't want them to work? no, ._. wowtt to— wouldn't want them to work? no, i-i would do want- wouldn't want them to work? no, i i would do want them i think no, i would do want them to—otow.— i think no, i would do want them to—otow. teth- to work. yeah. okay. yeah. i'm going— to work. yeah. okay. yeah. i'm going- _ to work. yeah. okay. yeah. i'm gohg- hut— to work. yeah. okay. yeah. i'm going 7 why to work. yeah. okay. yeah. i'm- going- but why? why have going to be. but why? why have wotett— going to be. but why? why have worker-because.- going to be. but why? why have worker-because.ibecause| worker visas? because. because that-s— worker visas? because. because that's because a lot that's the thing. because a lot of people across the of people come across the channel now are from india, for example, imply example, which would imply to me, easy me, given that it's quite easy to for if you're to get a visa for if you're coming india, that they coming from india, that they are people an people who would not meet an economic threshold. right. economic threshold. all right. we're going to have to leave it there. personally,i think there. personally, i don't think it's there. personally, i don't think tt-e—wett- there. personally, i don't think tt-e—wett tot- there. personally, i don't think it's—well for thei it's going to work well for the totes— it's going to work well for the totes-t— it's going to work well for the tories-i think- it's going to work well for the tories i think they're tories because i think they're going— tories because i think they're going-clobbered- tories because i think they're going clobbered the going to be clobbered at the next— going to be clobbered at the next election— going to be clobbered at the next election over this very teeweeeh-h- next election over this very issue. been another issue. but it's been another geot—

issue. but it's been another great—tot- issue. but it's been another- great_for watching great show. cheers for watching thto — great show. cheers for watching tthto—teottwl linda says. great show, really ehtettohhg— linda says. great show, really ehtehhoteg— linda says. great show, really enten more can— linda says. great show, really enten more can we say to what more can we say to that? text— what more can we say to that? next up— what more can we say to that? text wp-hotoh— what more can we say to that? next up, dolan. cheers for next up, mark dolan. cheers for wotehhg. — next up, mark dolan. cheers for watching. _evening.- next up, mark dolan. cheers for watching. “ “g next up, mark dolan. cheers for. watching. _evening. i'm greg watching. good evening. i'm greg dewhurst welcome your dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. it quite chilly it does turn quite chilly tonight, high pressure tonight, but with high pressure in charge, plenty of in charge, we'll see plenty of sunshine through sunday and temperatures climbing particularly in the west high pressure centre just to the north of us means the wind still coming in from the northeast. so eastern coast a little bit chilly , but further west, chilly, but further west, temperatures remaining above average the time of year. temperatures remaining above average the time of year . so average for the time of year. so fine end to the day we will see some low cloud across northeast scotland and also eastern england feeding slowly back inland, making way towards inland, making its way towards the midlands during the early hours. but there'll be lots of dry around clear skies dry weather around clear skies in the west and we could see a few shallow and patches few shallow mist and fog patches and temperatures dipping into single figures. so yes, a chilly start to sunday morning, but for many sunny start. we have many a sunny start. we do have low and eastern low cloud. central and eastern parts. this slowly burns back towards the coast, i think eastern parts of scotland, the

towards the east coast of england could see some low cloud at times. and with that northeasterly breeze, it will be quite chilly. temperatures struggling there, 13 struggling grimsby there, 13 degrees. come further west, degrees. but come further west, temperatures into the low temperatures rising into the low 20s locally, 25 degrees is possible , say for parts of west possible, say for parts of west wales into the evening time and plenty of dry weather to come. maybe an isolated shower across scotland, but most places dry and then overnight we see the low cloud pushing back in from the north sea, thicker and lower. and this could just produce a few spots of drizzle though. western areas staying dry and clear once more and temperatures again into single figures . so a temperatures again into single figures. so a bit of a westie split to start monday morning. sunny skies towards northern ireland, scotland, west wales, the west country. elsewhere quite cloudy. but again, the cloud through the day should lift and break and slowly retreat towards the coast. it might take its time and temperatures rising to the mid 20s in the west and tuesday and wednesday staying very similar .

wednesday staying very similar. further sunshine and high temperatures .

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