good afternoon. welcome to gb news sunday am emily carver news sunday i am emily carver for next two hours, be for the next two hours, i'll be keeping company keeping you company on tv, onune keeping you company on tv, online so online and digital radio. so coming up this hour, my grunts who protested about a london hotels four to a room policy have ended their demonstration after managers agreed that a maximum of two migrants will now share the accommodation. do you see this as the hotel caving in and could artificial intelligence mean the end of all human existence? 300 experts believe it could . they've signed believe it could. they've signed a warning letter. we'll be discussing whether or not we should fear ai could it leave us extinct even? and why did the prime minister rishi sunak donate $3 million to a college in america? we'll be finding out later. but first, before all of that, let's get the latest news headunes that, let's get the latest news headlines with rey addison . headlines with rey addison. thanks, emily. good afternoon. it's 1:01. here's the latest on it's1:01. here's the latest on india-s— it's1:01. here's the latest on india-s ran— it's1:01. here's the latest on india's rail minister is blaming

the points— india's rail minister is blaming the points and— india's rail minister is blaming the points and signalling system for the— the points and signalling system for the country's— the points and signalling system for the country's worst train crash — for the country's worst train crash h— for the country's worst train crash in decades. ashwini vhhhhhw— crash in decades. ashwini vaishnaw made the claims during avhh— vaishnaw made the claims during hvhh ho— vaishnaw made the claims during a vhh to the— vaishnaw made the claims during a visit to the site— vaishnaw made the claims during a visit to the site as— vaishnaw made the claims during a visit to the site as recovery work— a visit to the site as recovery work aha— a visit to the site as recovery work and ah— a visit to the site as recovery work and an investigation got underway— work and an investigation got underway mayr— work and an investigation got underway today, it's thought rhar— underway today, it's thought rhar arra— underway today, it's thought that two passenger trains camara— that two passenger trains collided when— that two passenger trains collided when one derailed. both rhea— collided when one derailed. both rheh crashed— collided when one derailed. both then crashed into— collided when one derailed. both then crashed into a— collided when one derailed. both then crashed into a goods train , huhg— then crashed into a goods train , hhhg whar— then crashed into a goods train , killing what is— then crashed into a goods train , killing what is now said to be 275— , killing what is now said to be 275 peapre. — , killing what is now said to be 275 people. kwasi_ , killing what is now said to be 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a rack— 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a hack we— 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a hack we wru— 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a track we will try— 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a track we will try to _ 275 people. kwasi kwarteng is a track we will try to restore rhh— track we will try to restore rhh arach— track we will try to restore this track today. pl track we will try to restore this track today. all the waahsg — this track today. all the wagons, coaches and bodies have been removed . the restoration been removed. the restoration operation is in full swing and we will try to finish the restoration work by wednesday morning. so that by then trains will be able to run normally . will be able to run normally. the immigration minister has told gb news that it's wrong for migrants to demand better hotel accommodation while waiting for their asylum claims to be processed. but their asylum claims to be processed . but after a protest processed. but after a protest sparked— processed. but after a protest was sparked in— f: but after a protest was sparked in london by hrgrahrs— was sparked in london by migrants being asked to sleep

raw— migrants being asked to sleep raw ra— migrants being asked to sleep raw ha a— migrants being asked to sleep four to a room.— migrants being asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camara— four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick sard— camilla tominey, robert jenrick said he— camilla tominey, robert jenrick said the government will never put said the government will never par rhsrr— said the government will never put their interests— said the government will never put their interests above the harsh— put their interests above the british public.— put their interests above the british public. he also said rhar— british public. he also said that sharing— british public. he also said that sharing hotel rooms is necessary rc— that sharing hotel rooms is necessary to get value for raanawers— necessary to get value for taxpayers money. t necessary to get value for— taxpayers money. remember, these are migrants who have said they are migrants who have said they are destitute. they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve to have single beds , rooms with en suite, bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. a labour mp has told gb " a labour mp has told gb news that wcrrns— labour mp has told gb news that wcrrns are— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too scared to ccnnharn— victims are too scared to complain about sexual predators in parliament.— complain about sexual predators in parliament. charlotte nichols reha— in parliament. charlotte nichols rare canrha— in parliament. charlotte nichols told camilla tominey that harassment— told camilla tominey that harassment is— told camilla tominey that harassment is baked into every share— harassment is baked into every share narr— harassment is baked into every share nan cr— harassment is baked into every single part of how westminster cnerares. — single part of how westminster cnerares. she— single part of how westminster operates. she also accused the lancer— operates. she also accused the lancer harry— operates. she also accused the labour party of— operates. she also accused the labour party of choosing not to act labour party of choosing not to acr en—

labour party of choosing not to act on concerns— labour party of choosing not to act on concerns raised about a narnerh— act on concerns raised about a narnerh cr— act on concerns raised about a number of colleagues over a very rene— number of colleagues over a very rang pence.— number of colleagues over a very rang hence. her— number of colleagues over a very long period. her comments come aher— long period. her comments come aher she— long period. her comments come after she revealed— long period. her comments come after she revealed being handed after she revealed being handed a hsr— after she revealed being handed a hsr cr— after she revealed being handed a hsr ch so— after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps_ after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps that she should aware— a list of 30 mps that she should aware when— a list of 30 mps that she should avoid when she— a list of 30 mps that she should avoid when she first became an mp avoid when she first became an hr . — avoid when she first became an hr . rr-s— avoid when she first became an mp . it's happened— avoid when she first became an mp . it's happened to- avoid when she first became an mp. it's happened to me in meetings during the middle of the working day . i've had the working day. i've had colleagues do things like inappropriate touching, you know , their hand on your leg or on your back or making comments towards you and on someone that, as i said, within the hierarchy of westminster is relatively protected by virtue of being an mp. so how much worse it must be if you're someone who has less power in the institution, where you're more likely to experience it, and even less able to speak out when it happens . the prime out when it happens. the prime minister is stressing the importance of a close and candid relationship with the us president ahead of his visit to the white house. next week. rishi the white house. next week. hrshr sanah— the white house. next week. rishi sunak is— vt" next week. rishi sunak is expected to accent— rishi sunak is expected to attend a— rishi sunak is expected to attend a baseball game in washrngrcn— attend a baseball game in washrnarcn ,— attend a baseball game in washington , dc. prior to talks washington, dc. prior to talks with— washington, dc. prior to talks wrrh ree— washington, dc. prior to talks with joe biden. _

washington, dc. prior to talks with joe biden. he'll also be meeting— with joe biden. he'll also be meeting business executives in an attempt— meeting business executives in an attempt rc— meeting business executives in an attempt to build closer economic ties— an attempt to build closer economic ties between the two ccanners— economic ties between the two ccanners .— economic ties between the two countries . more— economic ties between the two countries . more than 2600 nhs countries. more than 2600 nhs shah— countries. more than 2600 nhs staff h— countries. more than 2600 nhs staff in scotland— countries. more than 2600 nhs staff in scotland have taken the— staff in scotland have taken the ch— staff in scotland have taken time off work— staff in scotland have taken time off work due to long covid, whh— time off work due to long covid, whh sene— time off work due to long covid, whh ch— time off work due to long covid, with some off sick— time off work due to long covid, with some off sick for more than we— with some off sick for more than he wears — with some off sick for more than two years. that's— with some off sick for more than two years. that's to— with some off sick for more than two years. that's to according rreeacn — two years. that's to according rreeacn cr— two years. that's to according freedom of information requests made— freedom of information requests made hw— freedom of information requests made hw rhe— freedom of information requests made by the scottish liberal democrats— made by the scottish liberal democrats .— made by the scottish liberal democrats . the— made by the scottish liberal democrats . the scottish democrats. the scottish government— democrats. the scottish government says that it's investing— government says that it's investing £10— government says that it's investing £10 million into the tang— investing £10 million into the hang cowh— investing £10 million into the long covid support fund . the long covid support fund. the unhe— long covid support fund. the duke cr— long covid support fund. the duke of sussex— long covid support fund. the duke of sussex will appear at the high— duke of sussex will appear at the hen cann— duke of sussex will appear at the high court tomorrow to give evidence— the high court tomorrow to give evidence against— the high court tomorrow to give evidence against the publisher of evidence against the publisher cr rhe— evidence against the publisher at the daily— evidence against the publisher of the daily mirror over alleged anrawrar— of the daily mirror over alleged unlawful information gathering. harrw— unlawful information gathering. harrw charms— unlawful information gathering. harry claims that— unlawful information gathering. harry claims that around 140 nwhhshea— harry claims that around 140 published articles contained information— published articles contained information gathered using anrawrar— information gathered using unlawful methods, including phone— unlawful methods, including phone hacking.— unlawful methods, including phone hacking. mirror group newspapers— phone hacking. mirror group newspapers rs— phone hacking. mirror group newspapers is contesting the charms— newspapers is contesting the chains .— newspapers is contesting the crarns . royal— newspapers is contesting the claims . royal correspondent claims. royal correspondent rhchaer— claims. royal correspondent michael cole— claims. royal correspondent michael cole says it will be werw— michael cole says it will be werw anasaar— michael cole says it will be very unusual to— michael cole says it will be very unusual to see a royal on he— very unusual to see a royal on the witness— very unusual to see a royal on the witness stand— very unusual to see a royal on the witness stand and a royal nnnce— the witness stand and a royal nnnce going— the witness stand and a royal prince going into— the witness stand and a royal prince going into the witness

hex— prince going into the witness has re— prince going into the witness has re the— prince going into the witness box to give evidence in a very ccnrenrrcas— box to give evidence in a very contentious case— box to give evidence in a very contentious case against mirror crann— contentious case against mirror group newspapers says that hash-r— group newspapers says that hasn't happened ever since the 19 hasn't happened ever since the re cenrarw. — hasn't happened ever since the re cenrarw. rc— hasn't happened ever since the 19 century. it is— hasn't happened ever since the 19 century. l l.f:: 19 century. it is unprecedented. i mean, there's nothing in the british constitution that says a royal prince cannot give evidence or cannot be called to give a witness, to be a witness . and four children have q and four children have died . and four children have died ana— . and four children have died and a— . and four children have died and a man— . and four children have died and a rs— and four children have died and a man is missing in canada arter— and a man is missing in canada aher chew— and a man is missing in canada after they were— and a man is missing in canada after they were swept into a hen— after they were swept into a h— after they were swept into a river in quebec— after they were swept into a river in quebec ._ after they were swept into a river in quebec . police say the river in quebec. police say the group— river in quebec. police say the amp was— river in quebec. police say the group was fishing— river in quebec. police say the group was fishing when the incident— group was fishing when the incident happened . the children incident happened. the children whe— incident happened. the children who wee— incident happened. the children who au— incident happened. the children who were all over— incident happened. the children who were all over the age of ten reana— who were all over the age of ten were found unresponsive on the sh — were found unresponsive on the sh sh— were found unresponsive on the shore. six other— were found unresponsive on the shore. six other people have been— shore. six other people have been rescued _ shore. six other people have been rescued ._ shore. six other people have been rescued . this is gb news. been rescued. this is gb news. wett— been rescued. this is gb news. we-h bring— been rescued. this is gb news. we-h hnng wea— been rescued. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens.— we'll bring you more as it happens. haw— we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get back to gb happens. now let's get back to en news— happens. now let's get back to gb news sunday— happens. now let's get back to gb news sunday with .

gb news sunday with. emily irhanh— gb news sunday with. emily |rhanh wea— gb news sunday with. emily l rhanh wca rew— gb news sunday with. emily . thank you very much,- thank you very much, ray, for bringing us latest bringing us the latest headlines. get stuck headlines. so let's get stuck into today's into my top story of today's show. this week, we saw migrants barricade their hotel accommodation central london, accommodation in central london, pimlico, because they said the rooms were unsafe . asylum rooms were unsafe. asylum seekers were seen protesting on the street. there they are because they had to share rooms at pimlico comfort inn. one at the pimlico comfort inn. one of the migrants said they were being treated like animals. the hotel has since agreed to a maximum of only two migrants sharing a room earlier this morning , gb news spoke to morning, gb news spoke to immigration minister robert jenrick, who disagreed with the asylum seekers actions . asylum seekers actions. remember, these are migrants asylum seekers actions. - remember, these are migrants who have— remember, these are migrants who have sat— remember, these are migrants who have sat chew— remember, these are migrants who have said they are— remember, these are migrants who have said they are destitute. rhew-we— have said they are destitute. rhew-we sata— have said they are destitute. they've said that they have ahscrarerw— they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends nc— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family, no money, ana— friends, no family, no money, and he— friends, no family, no money, and the taxpayer— friends, no family, no money, and the taxpayer is stepping up and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing— and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good awahrw— and providing them with good quality accommodation and board and lodgin95-— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and so those i think— and lodgings. and so those i think these— and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong to think those migrants are wrong he nrcresr— think those migrants are wrong to protest ana— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve— to protest and say that they deserve rc— to protest and say that they deserve to have— to protest and say that they deserve to have single bedrooms

with— deserve to have single bedrooms with en— deserve to have single bedrooms with en surre— deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. with en suite bathrooms and so ana— with en suite bathrooms and so ana tn— with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense— on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have nrewahea— common sense seems to have nrewahea h— common sense seems to have prevailed in this— common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. so there we 90- — prevailed in this case. so there we 90- rhar-s— prevailed in this case. so there we go. that's what- prevailed in this case. so there we go. " we go. that's what the minister in charge of all this has to say. but joining me now is the director— say. but joining me now is the director rer— say. but joining me now is the director for the _ but joining me now is the director for the centre for hrgrarrcn— director for the centre for migration and— director for the centre for migration and economic ercsnenrw— migration and economic hrcsnenrw ,— migration and economic prosperity , stephen wolf and prosperity, stephen wolf and international— prosperity, stephen wolf and international human rights lawyer— international human rights lawyer david— international human rights lawyer david hague. thank you werw— lawyer david hague. thank you werw nach— lawyer david hague. thank you very much indeed— lawyer david hague. thank you very much indeed forjoining me. srenhen— very much indeed forjoining me. srenhen wear— very much indeed forjoining me. stephen your reaction to what we earner— stephen your reaction to what we earher h— stephen your reaction to what we saw earlier in the— stephen your reaction to what we saw earlier in the week, the pretest— saw earlier in the week, the protest outside _ saw earlier in the week, the protest outside this particular hereh — protest outside this particular here. he— protest outside this particular hcreh he wea— protest outside this particular hotel. do you think that robert jenrick— hotel. do you think that robert jenrick rs— hotel. do you think that robert jenrick is right— hotel. do you think that robert jenrick is right to— hotel. do you think that robert jenrick is right to say these people— jenrick is right to say these people are— jenrick is right to say these people are claiming that they are destitute _ people are claiming that they are destitute ,_ people are claiming that they are destitute , that they are are destitute, that they are fleeing— are destitute, that they are rreerng wa— are destitute, that they are fleeing war and persecution , so fleeing war and persecution, so essenrrahw— fleeing war and persecution, so essentially they _ fleeing war and persecution, so essentially they should be waterw— essentially they should be grateful for— essentially they should be grateful for what they've got ? grateful for what they've got? war. — grateful for what they've got? war. there-s— grateful for what they've got? well, there's no— grateful for what they've got? well, there's no doubt- grateful for what they've got? well, there's no doubt that if they're claiming asylum , they they're claiming asylum, they are claiming that they are fleeing war and they are fleeing torture and fleeing circumstance cases in their country, which would make it intolerable for them to live and therefore, one would expect them and hope that they would feel grateful at

whatever country that took them in. seeking to give them in. and seeking to give them asylum was providing the accommodation. the legal and legal assistance and medical care that a government that has signed to the un convention is required to give them. and so for it thinks and i think that most of the british people will see them as being utterly ungrateful for the provision of a hotel in the middle of pimlico where houses and flats are in the region of £2 million, where there's a nice park that sits on opposite that particular hotel and where they can wander around london and enjoy the sights that many would have to pay a fortune to do. so i do think that in this circumstances they should be a little bit more grateful . be a little bit more grateful. and i think the public of britain would actually support that to . yes, i think that view to. yes, i think wen-re— that view to. yes, i think you're probably- , yes, i think you're probably right. but but, dawn,— you're probably right. but but, hawa a— you're probably right. but but, hawa a ter— you're probably right. but but, david, a lot of— you're probably right. but but, david, a lot of these people, these— david, a lot of these people, these migrants— david, a lot of these people, these migrants who are staying in this— these migrants who are staying in this accommodation, have hherw— in this accommodation, have likely heen— in this accommodation, have likely been-a- in this accommodation, have likely been a very, likely been there for a very, werw— likely been there for a very, werw long— likely been there for a very, werw rang the.— likely been there for a very, very long time. of course, they

cant— very long time. of course, they cant wcrh. — very long time. of course, they cannot work. they— very long time. of course, they cannot work. they don't have werw— cannot work. they don't have werw nach— cannot work. they don't have werw nach rc— cannot work. they don't have very much to do— cannot work. they don't have very much to do at all. and yes, chew— very much to do at all. and yes, rhew haw— very much to do at all. and yes, rhew naw he— very much to do at all. and yes, rhew naw he h— very much to do at all. and yes, they may be in central london, har— they may be in central london, har h-s— they may be in central london, har h-s ner— they may be in central london, but it's not exactly like chew-re— but it's not exactly like rhew-re going- but it's not exactly like they're going to be enjoying the theatre— they're going to be enjoying the theatre-cr— they're going to be enjoying the theatre or shopping in theatre scene or shopping in extent— theatre scene or shopping in oxford street— theatre scene or shopping in oxford street or— theatre scene or shopping in oxford street or whatever. do you— oxford street or whatever. do wca rhrnh— oxford street or whatever. do you think there— oxford street or whatever. do you think there is or do you think— you think there is or do you think there— you think there is or do you think there is?— you think there is or do you think there is? there is something— think there is? there is something to- think there is? there is something to be said that acraahw— something to be said that acraahw we— something to be said that actually we they shouldn't be crarnrnea— actually we they shouldn't be crarnrnea h— actually we they shouldn't be crammed in this— actually we they shouldn't be crammed in this kind of accommodation for , to a room for accommodation for, to a room for such— accommodation for, to a room for such a— accommodation for, to a room for such a rent— accommodation for, to a room for such a long extended period of the— such a long extended period of the .— such a long extended period of the . ceca— such a long extended period of time . good good. l: " time. good good. good afternoon, emily. i think stephen mentioned the un convention. i mean, there is the law is very clear into what law states that we need to house people when, when, when they're destitute . that's the they're destitute. that's the first thing. and that housing obviously should be safe. and we come when we look the come on to when we look at the government manston and government with manston and diphtheria outbreaks, how they've to manage they've been unable to manage things now i think things like that. now i think i saw earlier on robert jenrick basically talking about it's wrong that we're spending millions on housing asylum seekers every day. and i agree with that. it is wrong. but why are we in that situation? we've

got been got a government that's been there years, migration is there for 13 years, migration is not a new problem. asylum seekers and people coming across the channel is a new the channel is not a new problem. putting them problem. why are we putting them now hotels? are we down now in hotels? why are we down the road from where i am in farnworth, they're outfitting a barge. proceeds barge. why were these proceeds orders not done before? did orders not done before? why did it get this where we're it get to this stage where we're now at the mercy illegal now at the mercy of illegal immigrants coming over and people criminals . and people and criminals. and unscrupulous hotel and private landlords? the situation we're in is very much the making of the tory party . stephen, in the tory party. stephen, in terms— the tory party. stephen, in terms cr— the tory party. stephen, in terms of this— the tory party. stephen, in terms of this policy,- ring stephen, in terms of this policy, it seems char— terms of this policy, it seems that recherc— terms of this policy, it seems that robert jenrick and the government— that robert jenrick and the government have a policy to maximise— government have a policy to maximise the— government have a policy to maximise the use of hotels . and maximise the use of hotels. and whar— maximise the use of hotels. and what r— maximise the use of hotels. and what r ean— maximise the use of hotels. and what r hw— maximise the use of hotels. and what i mean by that is to essentially— what i mean by that is to essentially have more people in fewer— essentially have more people in fewer rooms and— essentially have more people in fewer rooms and to basically cut the costs— fewer rooms and to basically cut the costs rer— fewer rooms and to basically cut the costs for the _ fewer rooms and to basically cut the costs for the taxpayer, which— the costs for the taxpayer, whrch rs— the costs for the taxpayer, which is absolutely fair enough. but which is absolutely fair enough. har chis— which is absolutely fair enough. but this particular hotel has given— but this particular hotel has given h— but this particular hotel has then in re— but this particular hotel has given in to well,— but this particular hotel has given in to well, these protests ana— given in to well, these protests and saw— given in to well, these protests and saw nc— given in to well, these protests and said, no, no,— given in to well, these protests and said, no, no, no, no , we'll and said, no, no, no, no, we'll tast— and said, no, no, no, no, we'll tasr have— and said, no, no, no, no, we'll tasr have re— and said, no, no, no, no, we'll tasr have re a— and said, no, no, no, no, we'll just have to a room- and said, no, no, no, no, we'll just have to a room then , just have to a room then, because— just have to a room then,

hecaase cr— just have to a room then, because of the- just have to a room then, because of the backlash. et ceera— because of the backlash. et ceera .— because of the backlash. et ceera . er— because of the backlash. et cetera . et cetera. so the cetera. et cetera. so the government _ cetera. et cetera. so the government desperately trying government is desperately trying to government is desperately trying re sneeze— government is desperately trying to sneeze h— government is desperately trying to squeeze in more and more nrnranr— to squeeze in more and more nrnranr hrs— to squeeze in more and more migrant its-this- migrant its into this accommodation , ian. but then migrant its into this— accommodation , ian. but then you accommodation, ian. but then you have— accommodation, ian. but then you have a— accommodation, ian. but then you have a war— accommodation, ian. but then you have a war have— accommodation, ian. but then you have a you have very upset people— have a you have very upset people ana— have a you have very upset people and h— have a you have very upset people and it just doesn't seem to people and it just doesn't seem as warh— people and it just doesn't seem as work ar— people and it just doesn't seem to work at all. _ people and it just doesn't seem to work at all. david's got a achr— to work at all. david's got a want there. — to work at all. david's got a point there. why— to work at all. david's got a point there. why isn't the government— point there. why isn't the government processing these chans— government processing these claims quicker— government processing these claims quicker ?_ government processing these claims quicker ? why is there claims quicker? why is there wha— claims quicker? why is there some kind of— claims quicker? why is there some kind of ulterior motive here— some kind of ulterior motive here rc— some kind of ulterior motive here he keep— some kind of ulterior motive here to keep these asylum precess— here to keep these asylum process so long? \r:::r l process so long? no, i don't think there is an ulterior motive to keep the process so long. there are two particular org there are two particular reasons , fundamental 4er there are two particular reasons , fundamental reasons. reasons, fundamental reasons. rhere— reasons, fundamental reasons. here are— reasons, fundamental reasons. there are several— reasons, fundamental reasons. there are several others . but there are several others. but he— there are several others. but the nah— there are several others. but the main two _ there are several others. but the main two reasons of why the precess— the main two reasons of why the access sing— the main two reasons of why the access srnn rs— the main two reasons of why the access she is a— the main two reasons of why the process sing is a backlog. mn process sing is a backlog. now, i process sing is a backlog. now, rrhrnh— process sing is a backlog. now, rrhrnh che— process sing is a backlog. now, i think the last— process sing is a backlog. now, i think the last figures are about 142,000 odd asylum applications in the backlog is firstly because of the demand we have certainly seen a huge increase in those average numbers that were coming across from low 30,000 at the beginning of 2010 to where we are now, which is approaching 48,000 a year coming into the country and

certainly expecting 80,000 this year. so there's a huge demand narnersh— year. so there's a huge demand narnersh ana— so there's a huge demand numbers and secondly, from covid enwars— numbers and secondly, from covid onwards , we've had— numbers and secondly, from covid onwards , we've had a decrease in onwards, we've had a decrease in the swnnrw— onwards, we've had a decrease in the sannrw er— onwards, we've had a decrease in the supply of those— onwards, we've had a decrease in the supply of those being able to the supply of those being able re anaerrahe— the supply of those being able to undertake the— the supply of those being able to undertake the roles of assessrnn— to undertake the roles of assessing the— to undertake the roles of assessing the asylum applications- assessing the asylum applications . there have been applications. there have been rechnrcar— applications. there have been technical issues— applications. there have been technical issues to there's been nrehrens— technical issues to there's been nrehrens char— technical issues to there's been problems that have led to the fact— problems that have led to the fact char— problems that have led to the fact that we— problems that have led to the fact that we need— problems that have led to the fact that we need this large scare — fact that we need this large scale accommodation option and the government— scale accommodation option and the government is— scale accommodation option and the government is quite right. they— the government is quite right. rhew—re- they have a fiscal duty to acraahw— they have a fiscal duty to actually reduce- they have a fiscal duty to actually reduce the cost on the taxpayer— actually reduce the cost on the taxpayer because _ actually reduce the cost on the taxpayer because with over 460 herers— taxpayer because with over 460 herers henn— taxpayer because with over 460 hotels being used— taxpayer because with over 460 hotels being used across the ceanrrw— hotels being used across the countryr rhere — hotels being used across the country, there is— hotels being used across the country, there is a need to acraahw— country, there is a need to actually maximise space and char-s— actually maximise space and chats whw— actually maximise space and that's why we're _ actually maximise space and that's why we're seeing manston and we're seeing— that's why we're seeing manston and we're seeing other areas now henn— and we're seeing other areas now being asce— and we're seeing other areas now being used . — and we're seeing other areas now hernn asea. r— and we're seeing other areas now being used . i mean,- and we're seeing other areas now being used . j? r: being used. i mean, david, i think the public are absolutely sick and tired. i mean, i can't talk about the whole public in its entirety, but a lot, a lot of people are absolutely fed up. you have local authorities who are told days in advance if that that suddenly they're going to be hundreds of migrants in a local hotel. they then have to deal with all the demands on the local infrastructure, school places is nhs appointments . et

places is nhs appointments. et cetera. et cetera. roads even bus services, even . and bus services, even. and everything that goes with having extra people at the last minute . how long can this go on before people actually . well, until all people actually. well, until all hell breaks loose, really. i mean, it has got to that point, especially when you see people complaining about accommodation in zone one in central london, where people who have been paying where people who have been paying taxes, their entire life couldn't even dream of being able to afford to live. it is crazy . we i mean, i agree with crazy. we i mean, i agree with you. imean, crazy. we i mean, i agree with you. i mean, you you remember chnsrnas— you. i mean, you you remember over christmas time,— i mean, you you remember over christmas time, we saw a lot over christmas time, we saw a er er— over christmas time, we saw a lot of homeless— over christmas time, we saw a lot of homeless people losing accommodation,— lot of homeless people losing accommodation, which they would have— accommodation, which they would have nenerahw— accommodation, which they would have generally been put in over chnsrnas— have generally been put in over christmas because— have generally been put in over christmas because it was given to—peoplerl to asylum seekers. so people, you— to asylum seekers. so people, wen-chars— to asylum seekers. so people, you that's something i you know, that's something i think,— you know, that's something i think,-addition- you know, that's something i think, addition to what think, which in addition to what we— think, which in addition to what we saw— think, which in addition to what you've said, people very you've said, makes people very annrw— you've said, makes people very angry-problem— you've said, makes people very angry problem we've angry. the problem that we've got angry. the problem that we've net—rs- got is the government is continually— got is the government is continually failing a continually failing to get a grip— continually failing to get a nhr-rhe- continually failing to get a grip the problem continually failing to get a- grip-the problem each grip on on, on the problem each ana— grip on on, on the problem each aha-haw.— grip on on, on the problem each aha-raw. h-s— grip on on, on the problem each and day. it's literally and every day. it's literally arnesr— and every day. it's literally. almost—other almost every day, every other day— almost every day, every other raw were— almost every day, every other day we're seeing— almost every day, every other day we're seeing another nrhhchw— day we're seeing another publicthrough_ day we're seeing another publicthrough . but none of them going through. but none of them have—

going through. but none of them have-gene— going through. but none of them have gone through. have actually gone through. werhrnn-s— have actually gone through. nothing's-been- have actually gone through. - nothing's-been-other nothing's really been done other than— nothing's really been done other than nehcw— nothing's really been done other than policy announcements. and weeewars-ra- than policy announcements. and we're towards another we're hurtling towards another nenerar— we're hurtling towards another general election.— we're hurtling towards another general election. and so i don't see|reauw— general election. and so i don't see|reauw-see- general election. and so i don't seeireally-see it- see i really don't see it channhnn— see i really don't see it changing. think we're going changing. i think we're going to see-morelthese. see more and more of these heaahnes. — see more and more of these headlines. david,- see more and more of these headlines. j? r: headlines. david, sorry to interrupt you're interrupt you. you're an international human rights lawyer. are lawyer. to what extent are lawyers blame for holding up lawyers to blame for holding up policy? we see time and time again the government not being well being forced to backtrack essentially on things like the rwanda policy , on the fact that rwanda policy, on the fact that people can use legal aid time and time again to essentially stop themselves from being deported for x, y, z reason. they come back and claim another thing, whether it's family rights, etcetera, or whatever it is , whatever the reason is that is, whatever the reason is that they wish to stay here and they wish to use the legal process to do so. how much are lawyers to blame? lawyers , as blame? activist lawyers, as i think i think everybody there's a lot of people in this scenario that are to blame, including activist lawyers, because activist lawyers, because activist certain activist lawyers and certain ngos , people obviously have ngos, people obviously have different we different opinions on how we

should seekers. should treat asylum seekers. some people the some of those people are the ones-challenging- some of those people are the ones challenging the ones that are challenging the waners—rhei various deportations and the perches— various deportations and the nehcres char— various deportations and the policies that seeing going policies that we're seeing going rhrernh— through the courts that are delaying— through the courts that are| nerawrnn—rhe delaying things. but at the end of delaying things. but at the end er-rhe— delaying things. but at the end of the government of the day, the government sherra— of the day, the government should have— of the day, the government should have been prepared for these.— should have been prepared for these—chew- should have been prepared for these._they push. these. so why did they push rhrernh— these. so why did they pushi rhrernh—rhew through legislation that they nrsr—rhew must have known when they warren— must have known when they warren h— must have known when they drafted it was— must have known when they drafted it was -to - must have known when they drafted it was to get drafted it was going to get srrch— drafted it was going to get srrch h— drafted it was going to get stuck in these— drafted it was going to get stuck in these in these scenarios ?_ stuck in these in these scenarios ? that seems to me scenarios? that seems to me a narcrrers— scenarios? that seems to me a ridiculous situation for them to do. ridiculous situation for them to re. se— ridiculous situation for them to re. se, wes— ridiculous situation for them to re. se, wes, werr— ridiculous situation for them to do. so, yes, your lawyers are to name.— do. so, yes, your lawyers are to wane—rhel blame. but again, i think the hrch— blame. but again, i think the hrch-rhe— blame. but again, i think the buck the government . buck stops at the government. war— buck stops at the government. war-ne— buck stops at the government. well,-go, stephen.- well, there you go, stephen. just the government to blame then think it's entirely then? no, i think it's entirely rhe— then? no, i think it's entirely the government's— 01:7 no, i think it's entirely the government's fault g�*rzzr�*7 no, i think it's entirely the government's fault in this circumstances. _ the government's fault in this circumstances. d circumstances. the government is trying to do the best it can, but they have made mistakes and they're not able to undertake some of the things that are needed to, for example, removing sufficient numbers of illegal migrants and those also who have committed crimes. there is problems, as david is quite readily said, that there are some activist lawyers, but as an immigration barrister, we can't blame the legal profession blame all the legal profession or judges because that's or the judges because that's the laws is their to try laws and it is their job to try and represent individuals. but of course charities and ngos

don't seem to have the same sort of understanding of government policy because they oppose that government policy and therefore there is a political aspect to it as well. and i think a lot of politics is involved in this. so there are many parties to blame. i the fact that the i also blame the fact that the international community has not come together to have some form of new treaty that deals with the fact that the internet , the fact that the internet, convention on human rights and also the refugee conventions doesn't recognise genuine refugees compared to now a large number of economic migrants. i think that needs to too . change think that needs to too. change and stephen, just on that, very lastly— and stephen, just on that, very hasrrw ,— and stephen, just on that, very hasrrw , we— and stephen, just on that, very lastly , we we've— and stephen, just on that, very lastly , we we've seen lots of lastly, we we've seen lots of renerrs— lastly, we we've seen lots of renerrs rhrs— lastly, we we've seen lots of reports this week— lastly, we we've seen lots of reports this week over the course of the— reports this week over the course of the week about the newernnenr— course of the week about the government trying to make anreenenrs— government trying to make agreements with various cernnres— agreements with various countries. one of the latest is ceernra. — countries. one of the latest is georgia. essentially anyone who has passed— georgia. essentially anyone who has passed through georgia or whe— has passed through georgia or whe has— has passed through georgia or who has come— has passed through georgia or who has come through georgia to this-wa— who has come through georgia to rhrs-wa rhe— who has come through georgia to this via the channel can this country via the channel can be this country via the channel can he then— this country via the channel can be then deported— this country via the channel can be then deported back. what kind of be then deported back. what kind er nrenress— be then deported back. what kind er nrenress are— be then deported back. what kind of progress are we— be then deported back. what kind of progress are we making when it of progress are we making when h cees— of progress are we making when h re— of progress are we making when it comes to schemes like that ?

it comes to schemes like that? war. — it comes to schemes like that? war. chis— it comes to schemes like that? war. rhrs rs— it comes to schemes like that? well, this is the— it comes to schemes like that? well, this is the government now trying to go around. one of the big trying to go around. one of the tan ssres— trying to go around. one of the big issues that— trying to go around. one of the big issues that they— g grin r: one of the big issues that they have is char— big issues that they have is that chew— big issues that they have is that they can't— big issues that they have is that they can't get treaties whh — that they can't get treaties whh -er— that they can't get treaties with -of-biggestl with some of the biggest cernnres— countries of suppliers of illegal— countries of suppliers of illegal and— countries of suppliers of illegal and genuine asylum seekers, which— illegal and genuine asylum seekers, which is iran , iraq, seekers, which is iran, iraq, nrnhanrsran— seekers, which is iran, iraq, afghanistan ._ seekers, which is iran, iraq, afghanistan . then you've got afghanistan. then you've got cernnres— afghanistan. then you've got countries like— afghanistan. then you've got countries like somalia and even newn— countries like somalia and even newn re— countries like somalia and even down to number— countries like somalia and even down to number 10 in the group is china.— down to number 10 in the group is chrna. ana— down to number 10 in the group is china. and they— down to number 10 in the group is china. and they are passing rhrernh— is china. and they are passing through—so. is china. and they are passing. through _so this through these countries. so this is through these countries. so this rs—rrw— through these countries. so this rs—rrw ana- through these countries. so this rs—rrw and final is their attempt to try and find a waw— is their attempt to try and find a wawlanerher— is their attempt to try and find a way another rwanda . whether a way of another rwanda. whether it a way of another rwanda. whether h wru— a way of another rwanda. whether h with wenc— a way of another rwanda. whether h with werh rs— a way of another rwanda. whether it will work is again, down to he— it will work is again, down to the rannrane— it will work is again, down to the language they use. the renrsrarren— the language they use. the legislation that— the language they use. the legislation that they pass. but rhrnarerw— legislation that they pass. but ultimately, as— legislation that they pass. but ultimately, as i— legislation that they pass. but ultimately, as i say, there does neee— ultimately, as i say, there does need re— ultimately, as i say, there does need he he— ultimately, as i say, there does need he he a— ultimately, as i say, there does need to be a new— ultimately, as i say, there does need to be a new international cenwenrenr— need to be a new international convention where— need to be a new international convention where people come renerher— convention where people come renerher ana— convention where people come together and start— convention where people come together and start deciding how we hear— together and start deciding how we rear with— together and start deciding how we deal with the— together and start deciding how we deal with the large scales of economic migrants, which may add the un — economic migrants, which may add the un ana— economic migrants, which may add the er and he— economic migrants, which may add the un and the european union has sata— the un and the european union has said new— the un and the european union has said now amounts to about core— has said now amounts to about eera er— has said now amounts to about eera er ah— has said now amounts to about 60% of all people— has said now amounts to about 60% of all people coming into the cernrrw. — 60% of all people coming into the country. just— 60% of all people coming into the country. jim r: the country. just lastly, david, you were nodding, nodding your head there. we've seen from some of the latest statistics that now is one of the biggest now india is one of the biggest countries in terms of people coming from there via the channel. it seems like we're always chasing the next problem,

the next country that's coming , the next country that's coming, the next country that's coming, the next country that's coming, the next group of the next the next group of migrants that's coming. do we now need another scheme with india able to send people india to be able to send people back who come there because back who come from there because india ? well, india is a safe country? well, absolutely. i mean, india is a safe country? well, absolutely . i mean, we are india is a safe country? well, absolutely. i mean, we are you hit absolutely. i mean, we are you hh rhe— absolutely. i mean, we are you hr the nah— absolutely. i mean, we are you hit the nail on— absolutely. i mean, we are you hit the nail on the— chill; i mean, we are you hit the nail on the head. we're arwaws— hit the nail on the head. we're always chasing. _ hit the nail on the head. we're always chasing. but we need a newernnenr— always chasing. but we need a government that— always chasing. but we need a government that prepares one char-s— government that prepares one rhar-s rearw— government that prepares one that's ready for— government that prepares one that's ready for these these nrehrens— that's ready for these these problems before they happen. and i problems before they happen. and r hen-r— problems before they happen. and r hen-r see— problems before they happen. and i don't see that— problems before they happen. and i don't see that changing at the rnenenr — i don't see that changing at the- moment. _saw-with moment. we already saw even with hara— moment. we already saw even with rnara—hrawernan- india, you know, braverman nahnn— india, you know, braverman making comments which which rhea—hara- making comments which which riled—india. so. riled relations with india. so we serious problem . and we have a serious problem. and it's we have a serious problem. and hrs-re— we have a serious problem. and it's-to continue- we have a serious problem. and it's to continue until it's going to continue until chew— it's going to continue until they-grapple- it's going to continue until. they-grapple-the they actually grapple with the ssre— they actually grapple with the ana— they actually grapple with the ana ner— they actually grapple with the issue and get get get the issue and get get the get the rnnrnrarren— issue and get get the get the immigration figure and immigration- immigration figure and immigration sorted out once and for immigration sorted out once and her art.— immigration sorted out once and her art. rhanh— immigration sorted out once and for all. thank you— immigration sorted out once and for all. thank you very much rnaeen— for all. thank you very much indeed, david— for all. thank you very much indeed, david haye , indeed, david haye, international human rights lawyer— international human rights rawwer ,— international human rights rawwer , ana— international human rights lawyer , and stephen wolff, of lawyer, and stephen wolff, of course, -of the - lawyer, and stephen wolff, of course, of the centre course, director of the centre for—economic. for migration and economic hresnenrw. — for migration and economic prosperity. it's— for migration and economic prosperity. l “wt: for migration and economic prosperity. “wt: for migration and economic prosperity. l “wt: l prosperity. it's hard not to sit here and think how hard can it actually be to sort this out. i know a lot of people think, you know, just just turn the boats around. but of course there are many complexities to that, not

least international law. but please do send in your views on that conversation. what you make of outside that of all the protests outside that central london hotel. the hotel ended up giving in to their demands, only two to room. demands, only two to a room. now, that fair or do we need now, is that fair or do we need to squeeze in as many to just squeeze in as many people? we even be using people? should we even be using hotels? sure what's hotels? i'm not sure what's happened with barge , but happened with the barge, but perhaps we can get an update on that later. you can get lots more on story on our more on this story on our website, course, simply head website, of course, simply head to gbnews.uk. com find to gbnews.uk. com you'll find the and opinion as the best analysis and opinion as well as all of our latest breaking news of story breaking news of every story under the sun. you're watching and to gb news sunday and listening to gb news sunday with emily we've got with me, emily carver. we've got lots on today's lots more coming up on today's show. the prime minister will travel to the us this week for talks with joe biden in bid to talks with joe biden in a bid to strengthen ties , but he's facing strengthen ties, but he's facing a little of backlash after a little bit of backlash after it's reported that he it's been reported that he donated a absolutely massive sum of money to a college in the us, despite that, many schools in the uk struggling. i'm not sure about that one. but first, let's take a look at the weather with

greg. hello there, i'm greg hewhrrsr— greg. hello there, i'm greg dewhurst and— [wing hello there, i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your rarest— dewhurst and welcome to your latest ch— dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news— dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. rte-we— latest gb news weather forecast. wewe ner— latest gb news weather forecast. we've got increasing amounts of cherr— we've got increasing amounts of crera rhrernh— we've got increasing amounts of cloud through tonight, but it wru— cloud through tonight, but it with can— cloud through tonight, but it will mean another dry day on henaaw— will mean another dry day on henaaw as— will mean another dry day on monday as that— will mean another dry day on monday as that burns away and high— monday as that burns away and hrnh nressrre— monday as that burns away and high pressure really is around for high pressure really is around rer rhe— high pressure really is around her the near— high pressure really is around for the next few— high pressure really is around for the next few days. it is center— for the next few days. it is cenrrer er— for the next few days. it is control of control of our wearhen — control of control of our weather, keeping it dry and harnerw— weather, keeping it dry and largely settled,— weather, keeping it dry and largely settled, though it will be largely settled, though it will he nrhe— largely settled, though it will be quite breezy— largely settled, though it will be quite breezy at times across some eastern-the. some eastern coast and the serrh—easr— some eastern coast and the serrh—easr h— some eastern coast and the south—east in particular. so rhrernh— south—east in particular. so rhrernh rhe— south—east in particular. so through the rest— south—east in particular. so through the rest of sunday into the evening— through the rest of sunday into the evening time— through the rest of sunday into the evening time , you can see the evening time, you can see the— the evening time, you can see the enter— the evening time, you can see fine enter the— the evening time, you can see fine enter the day— the evening time, you can see fine enter the day for many. but this— fine enter the day for many. but this rew— fine enter the day for many. but this low cloud— fine enter the day for many. but this low cloud in— fine enter the day for many. but this low cloud in the north sea is this low cloud in the north sea rs—rnre- is already rolling back into easern— is already rolling back into eastern areas— is already rolling back into eastern areas and overnight it nrshes— eastern areas and overnight it pushes southwest outwards, reachrnn— pushes southwest outwards, reachrnn as— pushes southwest outwards, reaching as far— pushes southwest outwards, reaching as far south and west as rans— reaching as far south and west as parts er— reaching as far south and west as parts of east— reaching as far south and west as parts of east wales and the west— as parts of east wales and the west cernrrw. — as parts of east wales and the west country. clear skies rrrrher— west country. clear skies further west— west country. clear skies further west here turning quite chhhw— further west here turning quite chilly. temperatures dipping rarnerw— chilly. temperatures dipping largely hae— chilly. temperatures dipping largely into single figures in the countryside.— largely into single figures in the countryside. towns and crates— the countryside. towns and cities holding— the countryside. towns and cities holding up a little higher.— cities holding up a little hrnher. se— cities holding up a little higher. so west east split for henaaw— higher. so west east split for monday morning. sunshine from the were— monday morning. sunshine from the were ne— monday morning. sunshine from the word go across— monday morning. sunshine from the word go across western parts of the word go across western parts er rhe— the word go across western parts cf the rh— the word go across western parts cf the we .— the word go across western parts of the uk . further— the word go across western parts of the uk . further east it is of the uk. further east it is creraw— of the uk. further east it is creraw ana— of the uk. further east it is cloudy and this— of the uk. further east it is cloudy and this cloud will hang arna—

cloudy and this cloud will hang arna rer— cloudy and this cloud will hang around for much— cloudy and this cloud will hang around for much of the morning, but around for much of the morning, hrr h— around for much of the morning, hrr h srewrw— around for much of the morning, but it slowly lifts— around for much of the morning, but it slowly lifts and breaks ana— but it slowly lifts and breaks and hw— but it slowly lifts and breaks and hw rhe— but it slowly lifts and breaks and by the time— but it slowly lifts and breaks and by the time we get to the aherneen — and by the time we get to the afternoon lwill_ and by the time we get to the afternoon will affect afternoon it will largely affect easern— afternoon it will largely affect eastern _ england l afternoon it will largely affect. eastern—england and eastern counties of england and easern— eastern counties of england and eastern -scotland- eastern counties of england and eastern scotland and an eastern parts of scotland and an rserarea— eastern parts of scotland and an isolated shower— eastern parts of scotland and an isolated shower possible wehhern— isolated shower possible northern ireland and scotland. but northern ireland and scotland. err nest— northern ireland and scotland. but most places— northern ireland and scotland. but most places dry with srnshne— but most places dry with sunshine. little sunshine. temperatures a little newer— sunshine. temperatures a little lower compared— sunshine. temperatures a little lower compared to the weekend, but lower compared to the weekend, err-reaching— lower compared to the weekend, but-reaching the— lower compared to the weekend, but reaching the low 20s but still reaching the low 20s rhe— but still reaching the low 20s across the west.— but still reaching the low 20s across the west. a little chhher— across the west. a little chillier for— across the west. a little chillier for some eastern coast where— chillier for some eastern coast where we— chillier for some eastern coast where we keep— chillier for some eastern coast where we keep that cloud and then— where we keep that cloud and then has— where we keep that cloud and then it's rinse— where we keep that cloud and then it's rinse and repeat. we scene—whe- then it's rinse and repeat. we see—moving back. see that cloud moving back in rhrernh— see that cloud moving back in through -evening- see that cloud moving back in through evening and through monday evening and overnight— through monday evening and overnight, thick— through monday evening and overnight, thick enough at times for overnight, thick enough at times her a— overnight, thick enough at times her a thre— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit of— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit of light rain or for a little bit of light rain er enzzre. — for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and— for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and notice how it even stretches— or drizzle. and notice how it even stretches even further west as we share— even stretches even further west as we start tuesday morning with cherr— as we start tuesday morning with more cloud around— as we start tuesday morning with more cloud around temperatures herarnn— more cloud around temperatures holding rn— more cloud around temperatures holding re a— more cloud around temperatures holding up a little— more cloud around temperatures holding up a little higher. but rnaer— holding up a little higher. but rnaer-shes- holding up a little higher. but under skies across the under any clear skies across the far west,— under any clear skies across the far west, h— under any clear skies across the far west, it will— under any clear skies across the far west, it will be— under any clear skies across the far west, it will be a chilly scarr— far west, it will be a chilly srarr re— far west, it will be a chilly start to tuesday- far west, it will be a chilly start to tuesday . so a grey start to tuesday. so a grey scarr— start to tuesday. so a grey share her— start to tuesday. so a grey start for many— start to tuesday. so a grey start for many sunshine , though, start for many sunshine, though, for start for many sunshine, though, her wehhern— start for many sunshine, though, for northern ireland. western scerrana— for northern ireland. western scerrana ,— for northern ireland. western scotland , northwest england and scotland, northwest england and wares— scotland, northwest england and waes .— scotland, northwest england and waes . ana— scotland, northwest england and wales . and then— scotland, northwest england and wales . and then notice the wales. and then just notice the cherr— wales. and then just notice the cloud-hang- wales. and then just notice the cloud hang around a cloud may just hang around a thre— cloud may just hang around a little-tuesday- cloud may just hang around a little-tuesday ,- cloud may just hang around a little tuesday , but little more on tuesday, but ewenrrahw— little more on tuesday, but eventually-up- little more on tuesday, but eventually up later eventually breaking up later wreanesaaw— eventually breaking up later wednesday, more in the way of srnshrne— wednesday, more in the way of srnshrne rer— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most sunny spells. rhrrsaaw— sunshine for most sunny spells. rhrrsaaw err— sunshine for most sunny spells.

thursday but turning windier in the

policing to a certain extent. terre— policing to a certain extent. you're listening— policing to a certain extent. you're listening to— policing to a certain extent. you're listening to gb- policing to a certain extent. you're listening to gb news radio . welcome back to gb news radio. welcome back to gb news srnaaw— radio. welcome back to gb news sunday with— radio. welcome back to gb news srnnaw with he— pin: welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily 35h: welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on werr— sunday with me, emily carver on werr rv— sunday with me, emily carver on werr rv ana— sunday with me, emily carver on your tv and radio.— sunday with me, emily carver on your tv and radio. so it's been renenea— your tv and radio. so it's been renerren renaw— your tv and radio. so it's been reported today that prime minister— reported today that prime minister rishi _ reported today that prime minister rishi sunak wants to rnrrearce— minister rishi sunak wants to rnrrearce a— minister rishi sunak wants to introduce a two— minister rishi sunak wants to introduce a two tax cut before he— introduce a two tax cut before the near— introduce a two tax cut before the next general— introduce a two tax cut before the next general election. as a way— the next general election. as a waw re— the next general election. as a way to incentivise_ the next general election. as a way to incentivise work as rnharren— way to incentivise work as inflation steadily falls and nresrnahrw— inflation steadily falls and presumably to— inflation steadily falls and presumably to get people to vote for presumably to get people to vote her hrn — presumably to get people to vote her hrn .— presumably to get people to vote her hrn . h— presumably to get people to vote her hrn . h rs— presumably to get people to vote for him . it is also— presumably to get people to vote for him . it is also believed the for him. it is also believed the enne— for him. it is also believed the prime minister— for him. it is also believed the prime minister wants to go into the-erecrren.— prime minister wants to go into the-election. there- prime minister wants to go into the election. there we go. the next election. there we go. hawnn— the next election. there we go. having-ana— the next election. there we go. having and promising the next election. there we go. ha dog and promising the next election. there we go. hado more. and promising the next election. there we go. hado more. but and promising the next election. there we go. hado more. but ofnd promising the next election. there we go. hado more. but of coursenising to do more. but of course rnharren— to do more. but of course inflation is— to do more. but of course inflation is still- to do more. but of course inflation is still stubbornly hrnh. — inflation is still stubbornly hrnh. rs— inflation is still stubbornly hrnh. rsrhrs— inflation is still stubbornly high. is this a— inflation is still stubbornly high. is this a wise move for he— high. is this a wise move for the enne— high. is this a wise move for the prime minister and in other news, retailers— the prime minister and in other news, retailers have warned the newernnenr— news, retailers have warned the government that— news, retailers have warned the government that green levies due to government that green levies due he he— government that green levies due he he rnnesea— government that green levies due to be imposed from _ government that green levies due to be imposed from next year , to be imposed from next year, arhhea— to be imposed from next year, arhhea rhe— to be imposed from next year, dubbed the grocery tax, will increase the _ dubbed the grocery tax, will increase the average household shennrnn— increase the average household shennrnn nhr— increase the average household shennrnn nhr hw— increase the average household shopping bill by £140 a year. rhe— shopping bill by £140 a year. he hnrrsh— shopping bill by £140 a year. the british retail consortium saws— the british retail consortium saws char— the british retail consortium says that such— the british retail consortium says that such a— the british retail consortium says that such a scheme to charge— says that such a scheme to charge retailers— says that such a scheme to charge retailers for councils, retar— charge retailers for councils, rerah ,— charge retailers for councils, retail , cycling,— charge retailers for councils, retail , cycling, their charge retailers for councils, retail, cycling, their packaging weree— retail, cycling, their packaging would increase— retail, cycling, their packaging would increase the cost of basic

hersehera— would increase the cost of basic household goods— would increase the cost of basic household goods-it- would increase the cost of basic household goods it is household goods when it is rehea— household goods when it is rolled-april- household goods when it is rolled april next household goods when it is. rolled -april next year rolled out from april next year . rhe— rolled out from april next year . the government— rolled out from april next year . the government argues the schee— . the government argues the scheme-re- . the government argues the scheme-to reducei . the government argues the- scheme -to reduce waste scheme is needed to reduce waste and necr— scheme is needed to reduce waste and cheer ner— scheme is needed to reduce waste and meet net zero— scheme is needed to reduce waste and meet net zero targets. rrnauw— and meet net zero targets. rrnahw rhe— and meet net zero targets. finally the prime minister will traver— finally the prime minister will have re— finally the prime minister will have he he— finally the prime minister will travel to the us— finally the prime minister will travel to the us on wednesday for travel to the us on wednesday her harks— travel to the us on wednesday for talks with _ travel to the us on wednesday for talks with the— travel to the us on wednesday for talks with the president as wer— for talks with the president as weh as— for talks with the president as well as members— for talks with the president as well as members of congress and harshness— well as members of congress and business leaders— well as members of congress and business leaders ._ well as members of congress and business leaders . as eyebrows business leaders. as eyebrows have— business leaders. as eyebrows have-reen— business leaders. as eyebrows have-been raised- business leaders. as eyebrows have been raised as to have though, been raised as to why— have though, been raised as to whw-rnne— have though, been raised as to why prime minister has given why the prime minister has given $3 why the prime minister has given are nhhen— why the prime minister has given are nhhen re— why the prime minister has given $3 million to a— why the prime minister has given $3 million to a college in the usa— $3 million to a college in the use white— $3 million to a college in the usa while schools in the uk can-r— usa while schools in the uk can't even afford— usa while schools in the uk can't even afford the basics. so ternrnn— can't even afford the basics. so ternrnn ne— can't even afford the basics. so ternrnn me new— can't even afford the basics. so joining me now is— can't even afford the basics. so joining me now is gb news nehrrcar— joining me now is gb news political reporter olivia utley to political reporter olivia utley re rath— political reporter olivia utley to talk through— political reporter olivia utley to talk through all of those scenes. — to talk through all of those scenes. se— to talk through all of those stories. so let's— to talk through all of those stories. so let's start with ants.— stories. so let's start with this ace-oz— stories. so let's start with this. £0.02 tax- stories. so let's start with this. £0.02 tax cut on our raw— this. £0.02 tax cut on our income tax that- this. £0.02 tax cut on our income tax that we're all going to income tax that we're all going he he— income tax that we're all going he he looking— income tax that we're all going to be looking forward to annarenrrw— to be looking forward to apparently before the next erecrren— apparently before the next erecrren . — apparently before the next election . yeah,- apparently before the next election , “41:3 s apparently before the next election . “43?“ " e r?“ election. yeah, i mean, it's an interesting proposal from rishi sunak. he's been sunak. obviously, he's been under pressure from under a lot of pressure from within own party to cut within his own party to cut taxes. the truss heights of the party, of which there are really quite a lot feel that you can't have prime have a conservative prime minister who has lumbered the country the highest tax country with the highest tax burden in 70 years and still expect the public to vote

conservative. the reason people vote conservative to see vote conservative is to see their so he's under their taxes cut. so he's under pressure there he now pressure there and he is now beginning to think that there will bit of headroom the will be a bit of headroom in the next budget to be able to allow him to make that without him to make that cut without massively affecting treasury budgets because we are eventually expecting to see inflation to fall . problem is inflation to fall. problem is that inflation still has remained stubbornly high. we were expecting it to fall back into single digits last month and it didn't. in fact, it was up slightly on the month before. so that makes things a little bit for but he bit trickier for him. but he knows that does have to knows that he does have to address problem not only knows that he does have to address there roblem not only knows that he does have to address there isllem not only knows that he does have to address there is am not only knows that he does have to address there is a lotiot only knows that he does have to address there is a lot of only because there is a lot of pressure, as i say, in his own party on a principled level, but also because there is a huge problem in this country with people just not going to work, people just not going to work, people working age claiming people of working age claiming benefits rather than going to work. now, of course, many, many benefits rather than going to wcthoserw, of course, many, many benefits rather than going to wcthoserw, of ccwillr, many, many benefits rather than going to wcthoserw, of ccwillr, mclaimingy of those people will be claiming benefits all right benefits for all the right reasons, the fact remains reasons, but the fact remains that in for manchester example, 18% of working age adults aren't working for whatever reason .

working for whatever reason. now, is there just not enough of a financial incentive for people to go and work full time? that is what rishi sunak is exploring. and one of the ways that might try and that he might try and incentivise this tax cut incentivise them is this tax cut . course, the same . but of course, at the same time there are all sorts of things he's promised to things which he's promised to pay things which he's promised to pay for. we're on the pay for. we're hearing on the front it was the front page of i think it was the times that promising front page of i think it was the timebillion that promising front page of i think it was the timebillion cash promising front page of i think it was the timebillion cash injection nising front page of i think it was the timebillion cash injection for ng a £1 billion cash injection for the we're this the nhs. and we're hearing this news about grocery bills going up order to fund green up in order to fund green levies. i mean, olivia, call levies. so i mean, olivia, call me or the other call me a cynic, but i think there is a two but i think if there is a two tax deduction on income tax, which would thoroughly welcome which i would thoroughly welcome , i think there will just be tax rises elsewhere . i mean, we see rises elsewhere. i mean, we see new— rises elsewhere. i mean, we see new chew— rises elsewhere. i mean, we see new rhew play— rises elsewhere. i mean, we see how they play around- ” ”c: i mean, we see how they play around with narrenar— how they play around with national insurance. might national insurance. they might play—r- national insurance. they might play—r they. national insurance. they might. play—r they might play around with vat, they might play— play around with vat, they might thaw—sens- play around with all sorts rnhenrea— play around with all sorts inherited tax. _ play around with all sorts inherited tax. cetera. et inherited tax. et cetera. et ceera— inherited tax. et cetera. et cetera-will— inherited tax. et cetera. et cetera.-will still- inherited tax. et cetera. et cetera. will still have cetera. we will still have a new— cetera. we will still have a new hrnh— cetera. we will still have a new hrnh raw— cetera. we will still have a very high tax burden, i imagine, not very high tax burden, i imagine, her-hecarse— very high tax burden, i imagine, not-because,-say. very high tax burden, i imagine, not-because,-say ,| not least because, as you say, there— not least because, as you say, there are— not least because, as you say, there se— not least because, as you say, there are so many,— not least because, as you say, there are so many, so many tenants— there are so many, so many aenanas en— there are so many, so many demands on the— there are so many, so many demands on the public purse censranrrw. — demands on the public purse constantly. and— demands on the public purse constantly. and one way which chew— constantly. and one way which rhew haw— constantly. and one way which rhew naw he— constantly. and one way which they may be increasing the cost of they may be increasing the cost er hwnn— they may be increasing the cost er hwnn en— they may be increasing the cost of living on purpose is senerhrnn— of living on purpose is something else reported in the

telegraph— something else reported in the telegraph renaw— something else reported in the telegraph today by their sunday nehrrcar— telegraph today by their sunday political editor,— telegraph today by their sunday political editor, green levies are— political editor, green levies are re— political editor, green levies are he he— political editor, green levies due to be imposed from next year certa— due to be imposed from next year could increase— due to be imposed from next year could increase food— due to be imposed from next year could increase food prices . by could increase food prices. by erro— could increase food prices. by tree a— could increase food prices. by tree a wear. — could increase food prices. by £140 a year. yeah,- could increase food prices. by £140 a year. / could increase food prices. by £140 a year. “43?“ e could increase food prices. by £140 a year. / e £140 a year. yeah, that it feels as though the government is only really just waking up to the massive, massive cost of net zero. all very well promising to reach his target. very very laudable aim. but the costs are only beginning to show. so green levy to encourage companies to recycle their waste is going to be passed on to consumers obviously. and those consumers could see their grocery bills rise by £140 a year. i mean, thatis rise by £140 a year. i mean, that is a lot of for money people dealing with a cost of living. this is totally bizarre. a scheme to charge the retailers ana— a scheme to charge the retailers and he— a scheme to charge the retailers and the man— a scheme to charge the retailers and the man facturers for the cesa— and the man facturers for the cesr er— and the man facturers for the cost of council's— and the man facturers for the cost of council's recycling . cost of council's recycling. whate— cost of council's recycling. rrhare se — cost of council's recycling. what? so they— cost of council's recycling. what? so they just go to sarnshrrw-s— what? so they just go to sainsbury's and say , you sell sainsbury's and say, you sell rhrnns— sainsbury's and say, you sell rhrnns char— sainsbury's and say, you sell things that are— sainsbury's and say, you sell things that are in plastic nachanhnn— things that are in plastic packaging, therefore you need to giver— packaging, therefore you need to giver r— packaging, therefore you need to giver r een-r— packaging, therefore you need to give, i don't know,— packaging, therefore you need to give, i don't know, one penny per— give, i don't know, one penny ner hen— give, i don't know, one penny ner hen re— give, i don't know, one penny per item to the— give, i don't know, one penny per item to the local council so char— per item to the local council so that we— per item to the local council so that we can— per item to the local council so that we can recycle. that's the

renrc— that we can recycle. that's the renrc er— that we can recycle. that's the renrc er h— that we can recycle. that's the logic of it and— that we can recycle. that's the logic of it and it— that we can recycle. that's the logic of it and it seems to come hen— logic of it and it seems to come hen a— logic of it and it seems to come hen a peace— logic of it and it seems to come rren a place er— logic of it and it seems to come from a place of thinking. 4:3. from a place of thinking. you knew.— from a place of thinking. you know, supermarkets- from a place of thinking. you know, supermarkets are making big profits, which they are at the minister big profits, which they are at the promised minister big profits, which they are at the promised to minister big profits, which they are at the promised to look minister big profits, which they are at the promised to look into inister big profits, which they are at the promised to look into whyar has promised to look into why food inflation rising food inflation is still rising when inflation in other areas actually is beginning to fall. so the logic seems to be super markets are making too much money. they can afford a green levy to help us reach net zero. but of course what will happen in practise is the supermarket will pass those costs to will just pass on those costs to the consumer and the average food bill, which as i say, is already high because food inflation than any inflation is higher than any other of inflation. it does other kind of inflation. it does seem seem like other kind of inflation. it does seem -seem like they're seem it does seem like they're taking— seem it does seem like they're cache—here- seem it does seem like they're taking—here on- seem it does seem like they'rei taking—here on this taking us for fools here on this serr— taking us for fools here on this set er— taking us for fools here on this set er rahnn— taking us for fools here on this sort of taking money somewhere and then— sort of taking money somewhere and then nrwnn— sort of taking money somewhere and then giving it— sort of taking money somewhere and then giving it back elsewhere.— and then giving it back elsewhere. it- and then giving it back elsewhere. it makes no sense at all elsewhere. it makes no sense at at re— elsewhere. it makes no sense at at he he— elsewhere. it makes no sense at at he trsr— elsewhere. it makes no sense at all to me, just lastly, something- all to me, just lastly, something that i found rather henrsrnn— something that i found rather henrsrnn ana— something that i found rather bemusing and go again goes against— bemusing and go again goes anarnsr see— bemusing and go again goes against some of— bemusing and go again goes against some of my instincts char— against some of my instincts rhar chanrw— against some of my instincts that charity perhaps should share— that charity perhaps should share ar— that charity perhaps should start at home— that charity perhaps should start at home and a british enne— start at home and a british prime minister— start at home and a british prime minister should focus on enhan— prime minister should focus on hrharn .— prime minister should focus on britain . apparently rishi sunak britain. apparently rishi sunak and britain. apparently rishi sunak ana hrs— britain. apparently rishi sunak and his whe— britain. apparently rishi sunak and his wife have given $3 nhhen— and his wife have given $3

nhhen re— and his wife have given $3 million to stanford . university million to stanford. university yeah.— million to stanford. university veah. really— million to stanford. university yeah, really bizarre— million to stanford. university yeah, really bizarre story- million to stanford. university yeah, really bizarre story this and is yeah, really bizarre story this andisisnt yeah, really bizarre story this and is isn't a great look for a prime minister who is always trying to refute the charge that he's a sort of internationalist and that he is you know, jetting around the world, enjoying jamborees and likes looking like a big figure on the world stage, but isn't very interested with problems happening at home. there are rural communities and many of them represented by staunch conservative lviv mps who feel as though rural schools have been hideously underfunded. we know that the popular asian decrease that the falling birth rate is causing massive gaps in rural schools, in particular small , rural schools, in particular small, smaller rural rural schools, in particular small , smaller rural schools. small, smaller rural schools. many of which are now facing funding crises. so i think this move from rishi sunak to donate this large amount of to money stanford university play stanford university will play very very in some of very, very badly in some of those even that though, those not even that though, because didn't mind when the because i didn't mind when the reports out that rishi reports came out that rishi sunak had given sunak and his wife had given £100,000 to winchester college. thatis £100,000 to winchester college. that is a british institution .

that is a british institution. has— that is a british institution. it's something— that is a british institution. it's something that is british ana— it's something that is british and serves— it's something that is british and serves british pupils. by ana— and serves british pupils. by and large— and serves british pupils. by and range .— and serves british pupils. by and large . but— and serves british pupils. by and large . but giving $3 million and large. but giving $3 million to and large. but giving $3 million he an— and large. but giving $3 million to an american— and large. but giving $3 million to an american institution an it aces— to an american institution an it aces nake— to an american institution an it aces make me— to an american institution an it does make me wonder whether, you knew— does make me wonder whether, you knew rs— does make me wonder whether, you knew rs rnshr— does make me wonder whether, you know, is rishi sunak's whole heart— know, is rishi sunak's whole heart rn— know, is rishi sunak's whole heart in britain— know, is rishi sunak's whole heart in britain and british nehhcs— heart in britain and british politics. well— heart in britain and british politics. well i— heart in britain and british politics. well i think that is senerhrnn— politics. well i think that is something that— politics. well i think that is something that people will be ashnn. — something that people will be ashnn. ana— something that people will be asking. and as— something that people will be asking. and as i— something that people will be asking. ' r: 3s“ asking. and as i say, rishi sunak has struggled a little bit to shrug off that reputation of being more interested on in his his his look on the international stage rather than what is going on here in britain. and there was an argument over whether he should attend. it was cop 20, attend. i think it was cop 20, whatever , on eight seven there whatever, on eight seven there have been a few or whether he should stay at home and focus on the cost of living crisis . and the cost of living crisis. and he being given opposing he was being given opposing advice from his from his closest aides. but basically they are struggling his team with with with making it clear that rishi sunakis with making it clear that rishi sunak is most interested in in britain, because he does have this reputation as sort of a banker . his this reputation as sort of a banker. his father in law

obviously is an indian billionaire . these sort of billionaire. these sort of concerns are sort of around him all the time. i don't know if that's how he gets rid of that reputation . i don't know if it's reputation. i don't know if it's controversial— reputation. i don't know if it's controversial to _ reputation. i don't know if it's controversial to say,- tit" i don't know if it's controversial to say, but i imagine— controversial to say, but i rnanrne a— controversial to say, but i imagine a family like the srnah-s— imagine a family like the sunak's could— imagine a family like the sunak's could live anywhere and have—ana- sunak's could live anywhere and have _and that'si have a fabulous life. and that's whar— have a fabulous life. and that's what-here— have a fabulous life. and that's what- little l little - what that's a little a little werrw—werl what that's a little a little. werrw—wer werw worry i have. thank you very nrch—hahrewi worry i have. thank you very- much_hartley, our much indeed. olivia hartley, our technical— much indeed. olivia hartley, our political reporter. _ much indeed. olivia hartley, our political reporter. you're warchrnn— political reporter. you're. warchrnn—re political reporter. you're- watching_to gb watching and listening to gb news— watching and listening to gb news-wran- watching and listening to gb news with emily news sunday with me, emily carver. — news sunday with me, emily carver. -rers- news sunday with me, emily carver. -lots more. carver. we've got lots more cenrnn— carver. we've got lots more cenrnn rn— carver. we've got lots more cenrnn rn en— carver. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. so shaw— coming up on today's show. so sraw—weehl stay tuned. earlier this week, soo— stay tuned. earlier this week, over 300 experts— stay tuned. earlier this week, over 300 experts signed letter over 300 experts signed a letter warnrnn— over 300 experts signed a letter warnrnn char— over 300 experts signed a letter warning that artificial intelligence mean warning that artificial- intelligence-mean the warning that artificial— intelligence-mean the end intelligence could mean the end of intelligence could mean the end er hrnan— intelligence could mean the end of human existence . this sounds of human existence. this sounds rather— of human existence. this sounds rather dramatic. _ of human existence. this sounds rather dramatic. i'll— of human existence. this sounds rather dramatic. i'll be sneahnn— rather dramatic. i'll be sneahnn re— rather dramatic. i'll be speaking to a former senior nrhrarw— speaking to a former senior military—officer speaking to a former senior. military—officer to military intelligence officer to see military intelligence officer to h— military intelligence officer to if hes— military intelligence officer to see if he's worried about the see if he's as worried about the rrrrre. — see if he's as worried about the rrrrre. err— see if he's as worried about the future. but first,— see if he's as worried about the future. but first, let's get the whh— future. but first, let's get the whh haw— future. but first, let's get the news with ray addison . �* ls” news with ray addison. 1:34. here-s— news with ray addison. 1:34. here-s rhe— news with ray addison. 1:34. here's the latest. _ news with ray addison. 1:34. here's the latest. indian authorities say a signal problem was likely responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades. country's worst train crash in decades . that's as the death decades. that's as the death toll has now been revised down

toll has now been revised down to 275 people, another 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second passing passenger train . second passing passenger train. prime minister narendra modi, who faces re—election next year, says those found guilty will be punished . the immigration punished. the immigration minister has told gb news it's wrong for migrants to demand better hotel accommodation while waiting for their asylum claims to be processed. it's after a protest was sparked in london by migrants being asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said sharing hotel rooms is necessary to get value for taxpayers money. member these are taxpayers money. member these nrnranrs— taxpayers money. member these are migrants who _ taxpayers money. member these are migrants who have- “m; member these are migrants who have said they are migrants who have said they aesrhrre— are migrants who have said they are destitute ._ are migrants who have said they are destitute . they've said that are destitute. they've said that chew— are destitute. they've said that rhew have— are destitute. they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to saw— they have absolutely nowhere to sraw, ne— they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends,— they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no— they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family , no stay, no friends, no family, no enew— stay, no friends, no family, no new ana— stay, no friends, no family, no money, and the— stay, no friends, no family, no money, and the taxpayer is srennrnn— money, and the taxpayer is stepping up— money, and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with— stepping up and providing them with neee— stepping up and providing them with good quality accommodation and heare— with good quality accommodation and heart ana— with good quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and so these— and board and lodgings. and so these r— and board and lodgings. and so these r rnhh— and board and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrenn— those i think those migrants are wrenn re— those i think those migrants are

wrong to protest— those i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that chew— wrong to protest and say that rhew reserve— wrong to protest and say that they deserve to— wrong to protest and say that they deserve to have single heareens— they deserve to have single bedrooms with— they deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and se— bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and se ana— bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm— bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to char— and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common— and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have— see that common sense seems to have nrewahea— see that common sense seems to have nrewahea rn— see that common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. the raherr— have prevailed in this case. the later he— have prevailed in this case. the labour mp has— have prevailed in this case. the labour mp has told gb news that victims— labour mp has told gb news that victims are— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too scared to cennrarn— victims are too scared to complain about sexual predators in parliament. _ complain about sexual predators in parliament. \. , in parliament. charlotte nichols also accused the labour party of choosing not to act on concerns raised about a number of colleagues . her comments come colleagues. her comments come after she revealed being handed after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps that she should avoid when she first became an mp . the duke of sussex will mp. the duke of sussex will appear at the high court tomorrow to give evidence against the publisher of the daily mirror over alleged unlawful information gathering . unlawful information gathering. harry claims that around 140 published articles contained material gathered using unlawful methods, including phone hacking . mirror group newspapers is contests . the claims you can get contests. the claims you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.uk.

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reente— the boats will stop coming. yes some people would argue, fair enernh. — some people would argue, fair enernh. wre— some people would argue, fair enough. we are— some people would argue, fair enough. we are being too to too neners when— enough. we are being too to too generous when it— enough. we are being too to too generous when it comes to hersrnn,— generous when it comes to housing, accommodation , food housing, accommodation, food roan,— housing, accommodation, food board, etcetera,— housing, accommodation, food board, etcetera, etcetera , board, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.— board, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. certainly when you see the nrrnerh— etcetera. certainly when you see the nrrnerh er— etcetera. certainly when you see the number of people who are henetess— the number of people who are homeless and— the number of people who are homeless and people without in this-tach— homeless and people without in this-rack er— homeless and people without in this-lack of social- this country lack of social hersrnn. — this country lack of social hersrnn. -rri this country lack of social. housing. -et cetera this country lack of social- housing. -et cetera . housing. et cetera. et cetera. it housing. et cetera. et cetera. n-j-ust— housing. et cetera. et cetera. it-just-ridiculousl housing. et cetera. et cetera.�* it-just-ridiculous at it does just seem ridiculous at this— it does just seem ridiculous at this stage. — it does just seem ridiculous at this stage. and— it does just seem ridiculous at this stage. and paul says, where did these— this stage. and paul says, where did these migrants— this stage. and paul says, where did these migrants find the money— did these migrants find the money to— did these migrants find the money to pay— did these migrants find the money to pay the criminal gangs if they— money to pay the criminal gangs if they ee— money to pay the criminal gangs tt they ee— money to pay the criminal gangs if they are so destitute? very geot— if they are so destitute? very geet hetht. — if they are so destitute? very geet heht. ht— if they are so destitute? very good point. it does cost well, at teeet— good point. it does cost well, at teeet e— good point. it does cost well, at least a couple— good point. it does cost well, at least a couple of thousand te— at least a couple of thousand to he— at least a couple of thousand euros to be to— at least a couple of thousand euros to be to be— at least a couple of thousand euros to be to be able to even hete— euros to be to be able to even mete thet— euros to be to be able to even make that journey— euros to be to be able to even make that journey across the theme— make that journey across the chehhet te— make that journey across the chehhet to pay— make that journey across the channel to pay the people emuggtete— channel to pay the people emuggtete te— channel to pay the people smugglers to get into boat and smugglers to get into a boat and come over here,— smugglers to get into a boat and come over here, presumably , come over here, presumably, perhaps— come over here, presumably, perhaps that— come over here, presumably, perhaps that has— come over here, presumably, perhaps that has wiped wiped them — perhaps that has wiped wiped them eut— perhaps that has wiped wiped them out entirely. so there you go them out entirely. so there you 90 -— them out entirely. so there you go . hut— them out entirely. so there you go . hut meme— them out entirely. so there you go . but please do— them out entirely. so there you go . but please do keep your go. but please do keep your eyes— go. but please do keep your views coming— go. but please do keep your views coming in.— go. but please do keep your views coming in. and while y-e— views coming in. and while ye et— views coming in. and while ye et ht,— views coming in. and while you're at it, subscribe to our veutuhe— you're at it, subscribe to our youtube-follow- you're at it, subscribe to our. youtube-follow.on youtube channel. follow us on twtttet— youtube channel. follow us on twtttet .— youtube channel. follow us on twitter . we're— youtube channel. follow us on twitter . we're news. i'm twitter. we're at gb news. i'm at cemet— twitter. we're at gb news. i'm at carver. emily,— twitter. we're at gb news. i'm at carver. emily, a— twitter. we're at gb news. i'm at carver. emily, a little, ttttte— at carver. emily, a little, ttttte mug— at carver. emily, a little, little plug for- at carver. emily, a little, little plug for my twitter there. — little plug for my twitter there. -week. little plug for my twitter. there.-week three. there. now, this week three. hemme— there. now, this week three. home em— there. now, this week three. moving om te— there. now, this week three. moving on to the robot takeover. we moving on to the robot takeover. the — moving on to the robot takeover. we are now this— moving on to the robot takeover. we are now this week, 300 mtustty— we are now this week, 300 industry leaders- we are now this week, 300 industry leaders warned that mttttetet— industry leaders warned that artificial intelligence could teet— artificial intelligence could

teat te— artificial intelligence could lead to human— artificial intelligence could lead to human extinction and shoute— lead to human extinction and sheutt he— lead to human extinction and should be considered very setteusty— should be considered very seriously indeed. but as these sets— seriously indeed. but as these sets tet— seriously indeed. but as these sets tee ht— seriously indeed. but as these calls for al to _ seriously indeed. but as these calls for al to be _ seriously indeed. but as these calls for al to be regulated are mete,— calls for al to be regulated are made sette— calls for al to be regulated are made, could there— calls for al to be regulated are made, could there be benefits to teyetehmg— made, could there be benefits to tevetehmg ht— made, could there be benefits to developing ai for— made, could there be benefits to developing ai for ,_ made, could there be benefits to developing ai for , say, the developing ai for, say, the mttttety— developing ai for, say, the mttttety e— developing ai for, say, the military ? let's— developing ai for, say, the military ? let's discuss this military? let's discuss this tmthet— military? let's discuss this tmthet mew— military? let's discuss this further now with former senior mttttety— further now with former senior military intelligence officer thttth— military intelligence officer philip ingram.— military intelligence officer philip ingram. philip thank you very— philip ingram. philip thank you very mush— philip ingram. philip thank you very much indeed forjoining me. tevety— very much indeed forjoining me. teyety heettreh— very much indeed forjoining me. lovely backdrop you've got there now ,— lovely backdrop you've got there mew, r-ve teem— lovely backdrop you've got there now , i've been reading with with now, i've been reading with with veryme— now, i've been reading with with yerymg revers— now, i've been reading with with varying levels of— now, i've been reading with with varying levels of concern all of these— varying levels of concern all of these tech— varying levels of concern all of these tech bods,_ varying levels of concern all of these tech bods, all of these peehte— these tech bods, all of these peepte whe — these tech bods, all of these people who seem to know what they-re— people who seem to know what they-re tetttme— people who seem to know what they're talking about, not least peehte— they're talking about, not least peepte the— they're talking about, not least people like elon— they're talking about, not least people like elon musk coming out to say— people like elon musk coming out to say ,— people like elon musk coming out to say , hang— people like elon musk coming out to say , hang em— people like elon musk coming out to say , hang on e— people like elon musk coming out to say , hang on a minute, we've to say, hang on a minute, we've created— to say, hang on a minute, we've ereetet thts— to say, hang on a minute, we've created this thing.— to say, hang on a minute, we've created this thing. we've ereetet— created this thing. we've created artificial intelligence tet-s— created artificial intelligence once. let's let's— created artificial intelligence once. let's let's stop now and whet— once. let's let's stop now and see what we've— once. let's let's stop now and see what we've created , try and see what we've created, try and reeutete — see what we've created, try and reeutete ht— see what we've created, try and regulate it and— see what we've created, try and regulate it and not— see what we've created, try and regulate it and not move any way remem— regulate it and not move any way temert. are— regulate it and not move any way temert. are yet— regulate it and not move any way forward. are you concerned about where— forward. are you concerned about where r— forward. are you concerned about where r sette— forward. are you concerned about where i could could— forward. are you concerned about where i could could take us? i hut— where i could could take us? i hut rm— where i could could take us? i am, but i'm also— where i could could take us? i am, but i'm also excited by where— am, but i'm also excited by where they— am, but i'm also excited by where they could take us. so there-s— where they could take us. so there-s seme— where they could take us. so there's some huge— where they could take us. so there's some huge benefits that can come from al, but there are some huge risks associated with

it as well. and the trouble is tt-s— it as well. and the trouble is hrs-exempte- it as well. and the trouble is it's-example of- it as well. and the trouble isj it's-example of how it's a perfect example of how teehmetegy— it's a perfect example of how teehmetegy ts— it's a perfect example of how technology is advancing at a hate— technology is advancing at a pace where— technology is advancing at a pace where it's— technology is advancing at a pace where it's overtaking humemtty-s— pace where it's overtaking humanity's ability to think of herr— humanity's ability to think of hem te— humanity's ability to think of hem to use— humanity's ability to think of how to use it— humanity's ability to think of how to use it properly and how to mteerete— how to use it properly and how to integrate it— how to use it properly and how to integrate it into— how to use it properly and how to integrate it into society property— to integrate it into society property mt— to integrate it into society properly and what the risks are , mt— properly and what the risks are , mt to— properly and what the risks are , mt to them— properly and what the risks are , and to then if— properly and what the risks are , and to then if necessary, bring— , and to then if necessary, hrmp m— , and to then if necessary, hrmp m the— , and to then if necessary, bring in the relevant oversight trom— bring in the relevant oversight from legislation— bring in the relevant oversight from legislation or more common uhterstomtme— from legislation or more common understanding between different ports— understanding between different ports ot— understanding between different ports ot the— understanding between different parts of the industry. well, because— parts of the industry. well, because philip,— parts of the industry. well, because philip, the only reason we as humans are— because philip, the only reason we as humans are at the top of the— we as humans are at the top of the-chom— we as humans are at the top of the-sham ts— we as humans are at the top of the chain is because we're the food chain is because we're more—hem- the food chain is because we're more—rtphte - the food chain is because we're more—right ? it. more intelligent, right? it seems we've— more intelligent, right? it seems we've created - more intelligent, right? it seems we've created something that will be more intelligent than us and therefore, will it be more powerful than us? well, more intelligent, be more powerful than us? well, more intelligent , but— be more powerful than us? well, more intelligent , but it- so?" “57 well, more intelligent, but it has got the potty— more intelligent, but it has got the ohtttty to— more intelligent, but it has got the ability to process data tester— the ability to process data toster mt— the ability to process data faster and therefore see things in faster and therefore see things m o— faster and therefore see things m o troy— faster and therefore see things m o troy thet— faster and therefore see things in a way that we— faster and therefore see things in a way that we can't see them, that— in a way that we can't see them, that toesm-t— in a way that we can't see them, that doesn't necessarily mean it's that doesn't necessarily mean tt-s moe— that doesn't necessarily mean it's more intelligent because mtettteehee— it's more intelligent because intelligence is— it's more intelligent because intelligence is much more eomptex— intelligence is much more eomptex ,— intelligence is much more complex , but— intelligence is much more complex , but it's that data and complex, but it's that data and bringing— complex, but it's that data and hrmpmp ht— complex, but it's that data and bringing it together and being otte— bringing it together and being ohte to— bringing it together and being ohte to see— bringing it together and being able to see subtleties, that thet— able to see subtleties, that means that artificial

intelligence is potentially a threat— intelligence is potentially a threat . — intelligence is potentially a meet. so.— intelligence is potentially a threat . so, for— intelligence is potentially a threat. intelligence is potentially a threat . threat. so, for example, you know , from a marketing know, from a marketing perspective , we all know adverts perspective, we all know adverts that make us feel good and make us then want to go out and buy a product. marketeers us then want to go out and buy a product . marketeers are product. marketeers are hrttttomt— product. marketeers are brilliant at— product. marketeers are brilliant at that- :f marketeers are brilliant at that and they were better— brilliant at that and they were even better that— brilliant at that and they were even better that in the past because— even better that in the past because remember tunes because we can remember tunes that—oth- because we can remember tunes that—wtth ht.- because we can remember tunes that—with it. we. that are associated with it. we ooh—phrases- that are associated with it. we can-phrases that. that are associated with it. we can phrases that are can remember phrases that are ossoetotet— associated with it. now you eomhme— associated with it. now you combine-with- associated with it. now you combine with analysing how combine that with analysing how someone thinks— combine that with analysing how someone thinks by— combine that with analysing how someone thinks by looking at a lot someone thinks by looking at a tot ot— someone thinks by looking at a tot ot ther— someone thinks by looking at a lot of their online— someone thinks by looking at a lot of their online presence and the torp— lot of their online presence and the big tote— lot of their online presence and the big data that's— lot of their online presence and the big data that's associated orth— the big data that's associated wtth p,— the big data that's associated wtth p, mt— the big data that's associated with it, and you— the big data that's associated with it, and you combine the two together,— with it, and you combine the two pogeppe. there— with it, and you combine the two together, there are— with it, and you combine the two together, there are a number of papers— together, there are a number of papers out— together, there are a number of papers out there— together, there are a number of papers out there and i've wrtttem— papers out there and i've written about— papers out there and i've written about this on my website where— written about this on my website where you— written about this on my website where you oom— written about this on my website where you can actually begin to momtputote— where you can actually begin to manipulate the— where you can actually begin to manipulate the way people are thmtmp— manipulate the way people are thmtme thet— manipulate the way people are thinking that is— manipulate the way people are thinking that is what's emperors— thinking that is what's dangerous . - thinking that is what's dangerous . �*ft�*rzgl «tilt? thinking that is what's dangerous . «to; thinking that is what's— dangerous . well, yes, that does dangerous. well, yes, that does sound terribly dangerous indeed. now, you're a military man. sound terribly dangerous indeed. now, you're a military man . ai now, you're a military man. ai bots or artificial intelligence , whatever you want to call it, doesn't need to rest in the same way as human beings do. so therefore , when it comes to

therefore, when it comes to military, when it comes to essentially war, could i very much up the ante and also up the risk of, say, genocide died ? risk of, say, genocide died? yes and no. it already is upping the ante. artificial intelligence is being used in the processing of huge amounts of intelligence data , for of intelligence data, for example. and some of that is being used to support ukraine in its actions against the illegal invasion of ukraine by by russia . so whenever you're looking at imagery data, for example, and you're getting huge amounts of information coming in terabytes or more of data that have to be analysed, no human being can do that. and if you apply artificial intelligence tools, it it and can provide you it can do it and can provide you pictures that allow you to get a level granularity and level of granularity and understanding human being understanding that a human being wouldn't . but wouldn't be able to do. but we're going to get into the, we're not going to get into the, um, space odyssey . 2001 film um, the space odyssey. 2001 film that came out in 1968 where we

had hal, the computer, trying to nuke the world because it saw a threat against it. there will always be checks and balances put place and there was put in place and there was a rumour came out this week saying that or a statement came out this week saying that a drone attack had using ai had gone and attacked the operator because the operator was trying to stop it from doing anything. and the person that that person who gave that that that that comment to admit that comment had to then admit that comment had to then admit that he'd made it was it that he'd made it up. it was it was incorrect because a complete lie. but that was the but that m— lie. but that was the but that m the— lie. but that was the but that was in the us.— lie. but that was the but that was in the us. i'm— l rzi; but that was the but that was in the us. i'm not necessarily— was in the us. i'm not necessarily worried about what theret— necessarily worried about what liberal democracies are going to do liberal democracies are going to to orth— liberal democracies are going to to wtth thts— liberal democracies are going to do with this technology, otthoueh— do with this technology, otthouph r— do with this technology, although i am worried, but i'm far although i am worried, but i'm tor moe— although i am worried, but i'm far more concerned by what potemttotty— far more concerned by what potentially despotic regimes mteht— potentially despotic regimes mteht to— potentially despotic regimes mtpht to or— potentially despotic regimes might do or authoritarian reptmes— might do or authoritarian reptmes ts— might do or authoritarian regimes is what china , north regimes is what china, north korea— regimes is what china, north korea, russia— regimes is what china, north korea, russia ,_ regimes is what china, north korea, russia , other countries korea, russia, other countries court— korea, russia, other countries soutt to— korea, russia, other countries could do with— korea, russia, other countries could do with this tech. could it could do with this tech. could tt he— could do with this tech. could tt he that— could do with this tech. could tt he that you— could do with this tech. could it be that you could input a poet— it be that you could input a goat ,— it be that you could input a goat , o— it be that you could input a poet , o wor— it be that you could input a goal, a war goal, a military poet— goal, a war goal, a military poet mto—

goal, a war goal, a military goal into various ai weapons , ai goal into various ai weapons, ai moohhery— goal into various ai weapons, ai moehmery, hr— goal into various ai weapons, ai machinery, ai robots ? and it machinery, ai robots? and it court— machinery, ai robots? and it could achieve— machinery, ai robots? and it could achieve that goal by any do you— could achieve that goal by any means. do you see what i mean? thts— means. do you see what i mean? thts ts— means. do you see what i mean? thts ts whet— means. do you see what i mean? this is what people— means. do you see what i mean? this is what people are fearful of this is what people are fearful ot ts— this is what people are fearful ot ts rt— this is what people are fearful ot ts rt ts. — this is what people are fearful of is it is. and— this is what people are fearful of is it is. and this- this is what people are fearful of is it is. 'r: of is it is. and this is where the international community needs to sit down and produce some rules. some of these despotic countries are already using ai despotic countries are already using al to manipulate us and to manipulate the outcomes of some of our elections . hence why of our elections. hence why there's been the real issues around the us presidential elections, around the brexit referendum about the cambridge analytica scandal that was there, and who actually paid for that. so it is being used at the moment in a the new phase of warfare where we're in this this grey zone that people talk about and influencing what's going on when it comes to using weapons and bits and pieces. the real difficulty is that a lot of these despotic nations will fear it as much as we do and have the checks and balances in place because very good at because they aren't very good at developing technologies developing their technologies that working. reliability that are working. reliability and what will frighten them most

is that it could turn itself on them . but we have to we have to them. but we have to we have to be very careful and be aware of what the potential risks are in the future and start to talk about it as we are at the moment now. and very now. and just very lastly, rhtttp— now. and just very lastly, philip,-about- and just very lastly, philip, about how now. and just very lastly,- philip,-about how we philip, we talk about how we meet— philip, we talk about how we meet-hove— philip, we talk about how we need have checks balances need to have checks and balances . tre— need to have checks and balances . the meet— need to have checks and balances . we need-regulate— need to have checks and balances . we need regulate this . we need to regulate this herpeomme— . we need to regulate this burgeoning industry because it is burgeoning industry because it ts so— burgeoning industry because it ts so compres— burgeoning industry because it is so complex and has many , you is so complex and has many, you mow,— is so complex and has many, you know, prospective— is so complex and has many, you know, prospective good things about— know, prospective good things about rt— know, prospective good things about it benefits— know, prospective good things about it benefits for the future , hut— about it benefits for the future , hut otso— about it benefits for the future , but also worrying things too , , but also worrying things too, as we've outlined— , but also worrying things too, as we've outlined there. but it may— as we've outlined there. but it may he— as we've outlined there. but it may he easy— as we've outlined there. but it may he easy to— as we've outlined there. but it may be easy to regulate when it to— may be easy to regulate when it comes to europe— may be easy to regulate when it comes to europe and the us. nato eomtres— comes to europe and the us. nato somtres .— comes to europe and the us. nato sootres . hot— comes to europe and the us. nato countries . but as— comes to europe and the us. nato countries . but as i— comes to europe and the us. nato countries . but as i said, how on countries. but as i said, how on earth— countries. but as i said, how on earth we— countries. but as i said, how on earth we tom-t— countries. but as i said, how on earth we don't have an international- earth we don't have an international legal community msotor— international legal community msoorsoht-— international legal community insofar-can boss- international legal community insofar can boss around insofar as we can boss around what— insofar as we can boss around what-testes— insofar as we can boss around what-decides to- insofar as we can boss around what decides to do with what china decides to do with its what china decides to do with tts are— what china decides to do with tts are som— what china decides to do with its ai? can we? _ what china decides to do with its ai? can we? �*ft�*rzgl what china decides to do with its ai? can we? vocal what china decides to do with its ai? can we? erotica r:r:::r its ai? can we? well, we do have a very good international community. you know, we regulate chemical weapons. we regulate biological weapons. we regulate nuclear . we regulate the nuclear weapons. we regulate the laws . and what can be laws of warfare. and what can be donein laws of warfare. and what can be done in the land environment, the maritime environment, the air we've air environment. we've got regulations and regulations for what can and can't be in so it's can't be done in space. so it's not beyond the realms of

probability and ability of nafions probability and ability of nations to get together and regulate what ai does. and this is where the captains of industry that are looking at it , i think they are ahead , i think because they are ahead of everyone in technology , they of everyone in technology, they should be the ones that are coming awful of coming out with an awful lot of the that then the the guidelines that then the international community can adopt and bring into into regulate , because that is the regulate, because that is the only way that we will be able to properly understand what it is that's going on. and they're in the position to do it because they're inventing it . thank you they're inventing it. thank you very indeed for your time. very much indeed for your time. philip ingram obe , former senior philip ingram obe, former senior mttttory— philip ingram obe, former senior military intelligence officer. thomt— military intelligence officer. thomtyoo— military intelligence officer. thomt yoo very— military intelligence officer. thank you very much indeed for yoor— thank you very much indeed for yoor mstght. — thank you very much indeed for your insight. please me your insight. please do let me thoro— your insight. please do let me know what— your insight. please do let me know what-think- your insight. please do let me know what think ai. know what you think about al. hot— know what you think about al. hot-reve— know what you think about al. hot-roe-ve got— know what you think about al. but we've got some but first, we've got some breaking— but first, we've got somei breaking—has but first, we've got some- breaking_has been breaking news. a man has been shortest— breaking news. a man has been shoraet otter— breaking news. a man has been charged after being arrested tormg— charged after being arrested tormg the— charged after being arrested during the fa— charged after being arrested during the fa cup final at tremhtey— during the fa cup final at wembley stadium . james white was wembley stadium. james white was orrestet— wembley stadium. james white was orrestet-hemg— wembley stadium. james white was arrested-being seen— arrested after being seen wearing— arrested after being seen weormg o— arrested after being seen wearing a shirt which appeared to eter— wearing a shirt which appeared to reter m— wearing a shirt which appeared to refer in offensive terms to those— to refer in offensive terms to those who — to refer in offensive terms to those who died— to refer in offensive terms to those who died the those who died in the hillsborough tragedy. white has teem—otsptoympl hillsborough tragedy. white has teem—otsptoymp ,| been charged with displaying, threotehmg— been charged with displaying, threatening writing threatening or abusive writing tttety— threatening or abusive writing tttety to— threatening or abusive writing likely to cause— threatening or abusive writing likely to cause harassment ,

likely to cause harassment, storm— likely to cause harassment, storm or— likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress . s well, what alarm or distress. s well, what yoo— alarm or distress. s well, what yoo teth— alarm or distress. s well, what can you tell us,— alarm or distress. s well, what can you tell us, jack? “43?“ can you tell us, jack? yeah, so thts.— can you tell us, jack? yeah, so thts. thts— can you tell us, jack? yeah, so this, this all goes after a photo that was kind of spreading across social media after the fa cup final where this man, james white, who has now been been charged, as you mentioned with that threatening or abusive writing , likely harm , writing, likely to cause harm, harassment or distress . this harassment or distress. this shirt states 97 not r: this shirt states 97 not enough. it's in shirt states 97 not enough. it's m reeremset— shirt states 97 not enough. it's in reference of— shirt states 97 not enough. it's in reference of course, to the roso — in reference of course, to the 1989 hillsborough tragedy . he he 1989 hillsborough tragedy. he he was 1989 hillsborough tragedy. he he orrestet— 1989 hillsborough tragedy. he he was arrested on— 1989 hillsborough tragedy. he he was arrested on on— 1989 hillsborough tragedy. he he was arrested on on site on the on the— was arrested on on site on the on the toy— was arrested on on site on the on the toy omt— was arrested on on site on the on the day and obviously has now teem— on the day and obviously has now been shorget— on the day and obviously has now been charged and— on the day and obviously has now been charged and he will, of course, then— been charged and he will, of course, then appeal it appear at hogtstrotes— course, then appeal it appear at magistrates court— course, then appeal it appear at magistrates court as of course thts— magistrates court as of course thts thts— magistrates court as of course this this case— magistrates court as of course this this case now— magistrates court as of course this this case now goes forward. hot— this this case now goes forward. hot ot— this this case now goes forward. hot ot oose— this this case now goes forward. but of course the— this this case now goes forward. but of course the fa cup final but of course the fa cup filial in but of course the fa cup final m reosttom— but of course the fa cup final in reaction of— but of course the fa cup final in reaction of course to that tem— in reaction of course to that tem hog. — in reaction of course to that tem hog. as— in reaction of course to that tem hog. as o— in reaction of course to that ten hag. as a manager, i imagine looking— ten hag. as a manager, i imagine now looking forward to next season talking— now looking forward to next season talking about how proud he ts— season talking about how proud he ts ot— season talking about how proud he ts ot hrs— season talking about how proud he is of his players and what they-we— he is of his players and what they've achieved— he is of his players and what they've achieved this season. amt—ttmottyl they've achieved this season. i and _finally after and pep guardiola finally after not tht— and pep guardiola finally after not the ot— and pep guardiola finally after not kind of mentioning it for a whtte— not kind of mentioning it for a whtte mow— not kind of mentioning it for a while now looking forward to the

shomptoms— while now looking forward to the champions league— while now looking forward to the champions league final this this shmse— champions league final this this shhse tor— champions league final this this chance for-as— champions league final this this chance for as manchester chance for him as manchester shy— chance for him as manchester stty momoerp— chance for him as manchester stty momoerp to— chance for him as manchester city manager to win his first shomptoms— city manager to win his first champions-the. city manager to win his first. champions-the club. champions league at the club. his champions league at the club. hts ttrst— champions league at the club. his first-was- champions league at the club. his first-was back- champions league at the club. his first was back at his first since he was back at horsehomo— his first since he was back at barcelona, managing them back in zom— barcelona, managing them back in mom-soorse— barcelona, managing them back in mom-soorse ,— barcelona, managing them back in 2011.-course , if— 2011. and of course, if manchester- 2011. and of course, if manchester city do win that shomptoms— manchester city do win that champions league final, it'll be the first— champions league final, it'll be the first-since— champions league final, it'll be the first since manchester the first time since manchester tmttet— the first time since manchester tmttet host— the first time since manchester united back in— the first time since manchester united back in 1999 that an tmgttsh— united back in 1999 that an english team _ united back in 1999 that an english team wins wins the trehte. — english team wins wins the trehte. so— english team wins wins the trehte. so o— english team wins wins the treble. so a lot— english team wins wins the treble. so a lot at stake for womshester— treble. so a lot at stake for manchester city— treble. so a lot at stake for manchester city fans to really get oh— manchester city fans to really get oh oh— manchester city fans to really get on m egoot— manchester city fans to really get on an equal footing with them— get on an equal footing with thetr wtth— get on an equal footing with their with their— get on an equal footing with their with their rivals next week— their with their rivals next week .— their with their rivals next weet . wett— their with their rivals next week . well, there you go. " week. well, there you go. i mean my mstmt— week. well, there you go. i mean my instant reaction there is to well wonder whether wearing an offensive t shirt should be a criminal offence . but luckily criminal offence. but luckily enough, i believe we have toby young, who is the head of the free speech union with us now. is he there? toby toby, do you mind if i can get do you mind if before we start talking about what you were meant to be on, to talk about, mind giving talk about, do you mind giving your to that story ? the your reaction to that story? the story of the fan at the fa cup being arrested for wearing an

offensive t shirt. exactly that. exactly that. toby yeah, it's i mean, i think i'd need to know more details, but on the face of it, it does seem like quite a draconian, heavy handed response . iguess draconian, heavy handed response . i guess the, the test will be ht— . i guess the, the test will be tt o— . i guess the, the test will be was it a public— i guess the, the test will be was it a public order offence ? was it a public order offence? wes— was it a public order offence? was he— was it a public order offence? was he deliberately— was it a public order offence? was he deliberately trying to cause harassment alarm or distress? and yes, did his have that affect? yes. it'll be interesting to see what exact charge he was arrested for. but anyway , the bbc has has- fcd : but anyway , the bbc has has come anyway, the bbc has has come meet— anyway, the bbc has has come omter thre— anyway, the bbc has has come under fire for— anyway, the bbc has has come under fire for giving a platform to controversial— under fire for giving a platform to controversial tiktok promtster— to controversial tiktok prankster missy. this is somethhg— prankster missy. this is something i— prankster missy. this is something i spoke about last mtght— something i spoke about last mtght. r— something i spoke about last night. i couldn't— something i spoke about last night. i couldn't believe my eyes— night. i couldn't believe my eyess-w— night. i couldn't believe my eyes-saw bbc. - night. i couldn't believe my eyes saw bbc. newsnight eyes when i saw bbc. newsnight was eyes when i saw bbc. newsnight oos- ptottorm— eyes when i saw bbc. newsnight was-a platform to- eyes when i saw bbc. newsnight was a platform to this was giving a platform to this young— was giving a platform to this yoomg mom— was giving a platform to this young man. what do you make of it? young man. what do you make of to why— young man. what do you make of to why to— young man. what do you make of to why to yoo— young man. what do you make of it? why do you think bbc wewsmtght— it? why do you think bbc newsnight chose to do this ? well newsnight chose to do this? well i newsnight chose to do this? well r goess— newsnight chose to do this? well r goess hes— newsnight chose to do this? well r goess he-s h— newsnight chose to do this? well i guess he's in the— newsnight chose to do this? well i guess he's in the news, so tt-s— i guess he's in the news, so tt-s o— i guess he's in the news, so tt-s o toptsot— i guess he's in the news, so it's a topical story. i guess he's in the news, so it's a topical story . it's a topical story. um, i goess— it's a topical story. um, i goess the— it's a topical story. um, i guess the producers of newsnight

wanted to give him an opportunity to set out his side of the story. an and you know, at the free speech union, we are constantly coming to the defence of people who are no platform armed or threatened with no platform ing like kathleen stock at the oxford union last week. so i think it might be a bit hypocrite local of say hypocrite local of me to say i don't think newsnight should have given him a platform . i have given him a platform. i mean, i'm no fan of mrs. i think he's antisocial and i think the real problem is the police haven't been doing their job. but whenever he does appear on television, whether it's on piers morgan's show or on newsnight, he doesn't seem to do himself any favours. so i don't think he's helping his case by appearing on tv. i suppose the one counterargument is that he's just doing this because he's as keen on attracting attention. he wants to increase the number of followers he has on tiktok, and we're just playing his game by putting him on tv. but, you know, for better or worse, he

has inserted himself into the national conversation. so i think it would be hypocritical for the free speech union to say, no, we shouldn't hear from him. well, there's a difference, though , isn't between though, isn't there, between a private broadcaster inviting him on and the bbc, which is taxpayer funded and inviting essentially a criminal onto the television to give his view as some kind of social commentator, representative of the youth. i mean , it is it is totally mean, it is it is totally htzorre. — mean, it is it is totally bizarre. you- mean, it is it is totally bizarre. you can have a view on it bizarre. you can have a view on tt whether— bizarre. you can have a view on tt whether yoo— bizarre. you can have a view on it whether you think everyone in the entre— it whether you think everyone in the entire country— it whether you think everyone in the entire country deserves a ptottorm — the entire country deserves a ptottorm oh— the entire country deserves a platform on the— the entire country deserves a platform on the bbc or not. yeah i platform on the bbc or not. yeah r mesh— platform on the bbc or not. yeah r r— platform on the bbc or not. yeah rmeoh r tom-t— platform on the bbc or not. yeah i mean, i don't think the fact that— i mean, i don't think the fact that the— i mean, i don't think the fact that the hes— i mean, i don't think the fact that the bbc is— i mean, i don't think the fact that the bbc is taxpayer funded is that the bbc is taxpayer funded ts o— that the bbc is taxpayer funded ts o srtttsot— that the bbc is taxpayer funded is a critical factor— that the bbc is taxpayer funded is a critical factor here. i threw— is a critical factor here. i think that's— is a critical factor here. i think that's certainly is a factor when it comes to employees or freelance contractors of the bbc expressing partisan and

political points of view on social media and elsewhere . you social media and elsewhere. you don't want people that are funded by the taxpayer to be promoting one particular political point of view, using the fame they have. as bbc punst the fame they have. as bbc pundits to do that. but i don't think the fact that the bbc is taxpayer funded means that they should be more circumspect about putting people like mizzi on screen. i mean, i think it's a bit of a storm in a teacup, to be honest, emily. i mean, and i don't think i think it's almost a the silly season come early, isn't i mean , it's hard to isn't it? i mean, it's hard to imagine that if it was in a slightly crowded news week imagine that if it was in a sligimizzi crowded news week imagine that if it was in a sligimizzi would wded news week imagine that if it was in a sligimizzi would bead news week imagine that if it was in a sligimizzi would be dominating k that mizzi would be dominating the headlines . that mizzi would be dominating the headlines. i that mizzi would be dominating the headlines . i expect he's the headlines. i expect he's going just going to disappearjust as quickly as he's appeared. well, you're laid back than you're much more laid back than me. iwas you're much more laid back than me. i was furious to see mizzi you're much more laid back than me. i vnewsnight.o see mizzi you're much more laid back than me. ivnewsnight. it'see mizzi you're much more laid back than me. i vnewsnight. it's supposed on bbc newsnight. it's supposed to he— on bbc newsnight. it's supposed to he s— on bbc newsnight. it's supposed to be a serious— on bbc newsnight. it's supposed to be a serious programme. it's our-broadcaster.- to be a serious programme. it's our broadcaster. we all our state broadcaster. we all tomo— our state broadcaster. we all tomtlr— our state broadcaster. we all tomtlr tom-t— our state broadcaster. we all fund i don't want criminals fund it. i don't want criminals put— fund it. i don't want criminals pot—tht- fund it. i don't want criminals pot—tho oti put up there as some kind of sostot—hot- put up there as some kind of. social—but that's social commentator, but that's rost— social commentator, but that's post my— social commentator, but that's post my wew— social commentator, but that's just my view. perhaps i'll shohge— just my view. perhaps i'll shohge-yoo- just my view. perhaps i'll change you very just my view. perhaps i'll- change -you very much

change it. thank you very much hteet. — change it. thank you very much hteet. tohy— change it. thank you very much indeed. toby young, general sesretory— secretary of the free speech tmtoh. — secretary of the free speech tmtoh. -ore- secretary of the free speech. union. -are watching union. there you are watching omt— union. there you are watching mt ttstemhg— union. there you are watching and listening-gb- union. there you are watching and listening gb news sunday and listening to gb news sunday wtth— and listening to gb news sunday wtth me— and listening to gb news sunday wtth me-sorwer— and listening to gb news sunday with me,-carver .- and listening to gb news sunday with me, carver . coming and listening to gb news sunday with me, carver. coming up with me, emily carver. coming up in with me, emily carver. coming up h the— with me, emily carver. coming up h the mett— with me, emily carver. coming up in the next hour,— with me, emily carver. coming up in the next hour, retailers warn the so—called_ in the next hour, retailers warn the so—called grocery tax will increase the _ the so—called grocery tax will increase the average household shoppmg— increase the average household shopptmg tht— increase the average household shopptmg httt hy— increase the average household shopping bill by a whopping £140 a is shopping bill by a whopping £140 o-rs thts— shopping bill by a whopping £140 o-rs thts o— shopping bill by a whopping £140 a-is this a price— shopping bill by a whopping £140 a is this a price worth a year. is this a price worth paying— a year. is this a price worth poymg tor— a year. is this a price worth paying for net— a year. is this a price worth paying for net zero. that's what tott. — paying for net zero. that's what we're told. and— paying for net zero. that's what we're told. and after police arrest— we're told. and after police arrest or— we're told. and after police arrest, 31 suspected animal ttstmg— arrest, 31 suspected animal rising activists— arrest, 31 suspected animal rising activists for disrupting the tpsom— rising activists for disrupting the epsom derby yesterday , the the epsom derby yesterday, the group— the epsom derby yesterday, the groop rosttttet— the epsom derby yesterday, the group justified their actions as esessry tor— group justified their actions as necessary for raising awareness of necessary for raising awareness ot the — necessary for raising awareness ot the sroetty— necessary for raising awareness of the cruelty of— necessary for raising awareness of the cruelty of horse racing . of the cruelty of horse racing. horse— of the cruelty of horse racing. horse rostmg— of the cruelty of horse racing. horse racing will— of the cruelty of horse racing. horse racing will be discussing wtth— horse racing will be discussing wtth amtmot— horse racing will be discussing with animal rising whether or not they— with animal rising whether or mot they howe— with animal rising whether or not they have a— with animal rising whether or not they have a point. and the note— not they have a point. and the note omt— not they have a point. and the duke and duchess— not they have a point. and the duke and duchess of sussex are reportetty— duke and duchess of sussex are reportetty mot— duke and duchess of sussex are reportedly not going to bless us wtth— reportedly not going to bless us wtth shy— reportedly not going to bless us wtth my more— reportedly not going to bless us with any more. tell all documentaries or books . oh dear. documentaries or books. oh dear. wett— documentaries or books. oh dear. we-tt ttssoss— documentaries or books. oh dear. we'll discuss that— documentaries or books. oh dear. we'll discuss that with royal commentator— we'll discuss that with royal commentator richard fitzhugh wttttoms— commentator richard fitzhugh williams you— commentator richard fitzhugh williams you probably seen pottttstoms— williams you probably seen politicians interviewed a moment— politicians interviewed a thousand times, but we do it tttteremtty. — thousand times, but we do it differently. we— thousand times, but we do it differently. �*vw�*rz; �*" r: thousand times, but we do it differently. �*fttrz; �*" r: differently. we find out who they really are. we don't shout, we chat , and hopefully we they really are. we don't shout, we chat, and hopefully we bring a bit of light and not just heat. did you know kate moss ?

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headlines with mary. good afternoon. it's 2:01- : good afternoon. it's 2:01 and that hreottmg— afternoon. it's 2:01 and that breaking news— afternoon. it's 2:01 and that breaking news in the last few mhotes— breaking news in the last few mhotes. a— breaking news in the last few minutes. a man— breaking news in the last few minutes. a man has been charged otter— minutes. a man has been charged otter ottegetty— minutes. a man has been charged after allegedly wearing a shirt to the— after allegedly wearing a shirt to the wt— after allegedly wearing a shirt to the to cop— after allegedly wearing a shirt to the fa cup final which appeared— to the fa cup final which oppeoret to— to the fa cup final which appeared to have an offensive reteremse to — appeared to have an offensive reference to the— appeared to have an offensive reference to the hillsborough ttsoster— reference to the hillsborough ttsoster .— reference to the hillsborough ttsoster . os— reference to the hillsborough disaster. 33 year old james whtte— disaster. 33 year old james whtte trom — disaster. 33 year old james white from warwickshire has been merged— white from warwickshire has been shorget wtth— white from warwickshire has been charged with displaying threatening— charged with displaying threatening or abusive writing. hes— threatening or abusive writing. he-s eopestet— threatening or abusive writing. he's expected to— threatening or abusive writing. he's expected to appear at whttestem— he's expected to appear at willesden magistrates court next week.— willesden magistrates court next weet. 97— willesden magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool— willesden magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool fans died in toss»— week. 97 liverpool fans died in roso ot— week. 97 liverpool fans died in 1989 at hillsborough stadium in shetttett— 1989 at hillsborough stadium in shetttett .— 1989 at hillsborough stadium in sheffield . indian— 1989 at hillsborough stadium in sheffield . indian authorities sheffield. indian authorities say— sheffield. indian authorities soy o— sheffield. indian authorities soy o stgmot— sheffield. indian authorities say a signal problem was likely respohsthte— say a signal problem was likely responsible for— say a signal problem was likely responsible for the country's worst— responsible for the country's worst toh— responsible for the country's worst train crash— responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades . worst train crash in decades. that-s— worst train crash in decades. thot-s os— worst train crash in decades. that's as the _ worst train crash in decades. that's as the death toll has now teem— that's as the death toll has now been rewset— that's as the death toll has now been revised down— that's as the death toll has now been revised down to 275 people. mother— been revised down to 275 people. mother .— been revised down to 275 people. mother . hoo— been revised down to 275 people. another . 1200 were— been revised down to 275 people. another . 1200 were injured when another. 1200 were injured when a another. 1200 were injured when o possemger— another. 1200 were injured when a passenger train— another. 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stottomory— a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before terotthg— stationary freight train before derailing and— stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second posstmg— derailing and striking a second passing passenger train. prime wtmtster— passing passenger train. prime minister narendra modi, who roses— minister narendra modi, who faces re—election next year,

says— faces re—election next year, says those— faces re—election next year, says those found- faces re—election next year, says those found guilty will be pohtshet— says those found guilty will be pomtshet .— says those found guilty will be pomtshet . the— says those found guilty will be punished . the immigration punished. the immigration mhtster— punished. the immigration minister has— punished. the immigration minister has told gb news it's wrong— minister has told gb news it's wrong tor— minister has told gb news it's wrong for migrant to demand hetter— wrong for migrant to demand better hotel— wrong for migrant to demand better hotel accommodation while wotthg— better hotel accommodation while wotttmg tor— better hotel accommodation while waiting for their— better hotel accommodation while waiting for their asylum claims to he— waiting for their asylum claims to be processed.— waiting for their asylum claims to be processed. that's after a protest— to be processed. that's after a protest ws— to be processed. that's after a protest was sparked in london by mtgromts— protest was sparked in london by mtgromts hemg— protest was sparked in london by migrants being asked to sleep toot— migrants being asked to sleep toor to— migrants being asked to sleep toor to o— migrants being asked to sleep four to a room.— migrants being asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to somtre— four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick sett— camilla tominey, robert jenrick sort the— camilla tominey, robert jenrick said the government will never put said the government will never pot ther— said the government will never put their interests— said the government will never put their interests above the hrtttsh— put their interests above the british public.— put their interests above the british public. he also said that— british public. he also said that sharing— british public. he also said that sharing hotel rooms is esessry to— that sharing hotel rooms is necessary to get value for taxpayers— necessary to get value for taxpayers money. member for these— taxpayers money. member for these ore— taxpayers money. member for these are migrants who have said they— these are migrants who have said they ore— these are migrants who have said they are destitute. _ these are migrants who have said they are destitute. "on r: they are destitute. they've said that— they are destitute. they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good quality accommodation in and board and lodgings . and so those i think lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve to have single cell bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have this case. a have prevailed in this case. a

labour mp has told gb " a labour mp has told gb news that wsttms— labour mp has told gb news that wsttms ore— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too— labour mp has told gb news that victims are too scared to somptotm— victims are too scared to complain about sexual predators in parliament.— complain about sexual predators in parliament. charlotte nichols tott— in parliament. charlotte nichols tott somtre— in parliament. charlotte nichols told camilla tominey that harassment— told camilla tominey that harassment is— told camilla tominey that harassment is baked into every stmgte— harassment is baked into every stmgte port— harassment is baked into every stmgte port ot— harassment is baked into every single part of how westminster operates— single part of how westminster operotes .— single part of how westminster operotes . she— single part of how westminster operates . she also accused the operates. she also accused the taboo— operates. she also accused the tohoor tohy— operates. she also accused the labour party of— operates. she also accused the labour party of choosing not to act labour party of choosing not to ost om— labour party of choosing not to act on concerns— labour party of choosing not to act on concerns raised about a homero— act on concerns raised about a momerh ot— act on concerns raised about a number of colleagues over a very tong— number of colleagues over a very tomg pertost— number of colleagues over a very tomg pertot. her— number of colleagues over a very long period. her comments come otter— long period. her comments come otter she— long period. her comments come after she revealed— long period. her comments come after she revealed being handed after she revealed being handed o ost— after she revealed being handed o ttst ot— after she revealed being handed o ttst ot so— after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps— after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps that she should mott— a list of 30 mps that she should owott when— a list of 30 mps that she should avoid when she— a list of 30 mps that she should avoid when she first became an mp avoid when she first became an we . — avoid when she first became an we . tts— avoid when she first became an mp . it's happened— avoid when she first became an mp . it's happened to- avoid when she first became an mp. it's happened to me in meetings during the middle of the working day. i've had colleagues do things like inappropriate touching, you know, their hand on your leg or on your back or making comments towards you and on someone that , as i said, within the hierarchy of westminster is relatively protected by virtue of being an mp. so how much worse it must be if you're someone who has less power in the institution , where you're the institution, where you're more likely to experience it and even less able to speak out when

it happens. the prime minister is stressing the importance of a close and candid relationship with the us president ahead of his visit to the white house next week. rishi sunak is eopestet— next week. rishi sunak is eopestet to— "tine rishi sunak is expected to attend a baseball game— expected to attend a baseball game h— expected to attend a baseball game in washington dc . prior to game in washington dc. prior to torts— game in washington dc. prior to totts wtth— game in washington dc. prior to talks with joe _ game in washington dc. prior to talks with joe biden . he'll also talks with joe biden. he'll also be talks with joe biden. he'll also he meethg— talks with joe biden. he'll also be meeting business executives in be meeting business executives tm om— be meeting business executives h an attempt— be meeting business executives in an attempt to— be meeting business executives in an attempt to build closer economic ties— in an attempt to build closer economic ties between our two ootres — economic ties between our two countries. more— economic ties between our two countries. more than 2600 nhs stom— countries. more than 2600 nhs stott h— countries. more than 2600 nhs staff in scotland— countries. more than 2600 nhs staff in scotland have taken ttme— staff in scotland have taken ttme ott— staff in scotland have taken time off work— staff in scotland have taken time off work due to long covid, wtth— time off work due to long covid, wtth some— time off work due to long covid, wtth ott— time off work due to long covid, with some off sick— time off work due to long covid, with some off sick for more than two— with some off sick for more than two yes — with some off sick for more than two years. that's— with some off sick for more than two years. that's to— with some off sick for more than two years. that's to according treetom — two years. that's to according treetom ot— two years. that's to according freedom of information requests by the— freedom of information requests by the scottish _ freedom of information requests by the scottish liberal democrats— by the scottish liberal democrats .- by the scottish liberal democrats . the scottish democrats. the scottish government— democrats. the scottish government says it's investing . government says it's investing. tro— government says it's investing. tho mttttom— government says it's investing. £10 million into— government says it's investing. £10 million into the long covid sopport— £10 million into the long covid sopport tomo— £10 million into the long covid sopport tomt .— £10 million into the long covid support fund . the— £10 million into the long covid support fund . the duke of sussex support fund. the duke of sussex will support fund. the duke of sussex wttt appear— support fund. the duke of sussex wttt oppeor ot— support fund. the duke of sussex will appear at the— support fund. the duke of sussex will appear at the high court tomorrow to— will appear at the high court tomorrow to give _ will appear at the high court tomorrow to give evidence ogohst— tomorrow to give evidence ogomst the— tomorrow to give evidence against the publisher of the potty— against the publisher of the potty tomor— against the publisher of the daily mirror over alleged ohtowtot— daily mirror over alleged unlawful information gathering. harry— unlawful information gathering. horry storms— unlawful information gathering. harry claims that— unlawful information gathering. harry claims that around 140

pohttshet— harry claims that around 140 published articles contained information— published articles contained information gathered using omtowtot— information gathered using unlawful methods, including phone— unlawful methods, including phone hostmg— unlawful methods, including phone hacking ._ unlawful methods, including phone hacking . mirror group phone hacking. mirror group newspapers— phone hacking. mirror group newspapers ts— phone hacking. mirror group newspapers is content fighting the storms.— newspapers is content fighting the claims. royal— newspapers is content fighting the claims. royal correspondent wtshoet— the claims. royal correspondent wtshoet cote— the claims. royal correspondent michael cole says— the claims. royal correspondent michael cole says it will be very— michael cole says it will be very omosot— michael cole says it will be very unusual to— michael cole says it will be very unusual to see a royal on the— very unusual to see a royal on the wttmess— very unusual to see a royal on the witness stand.— very unusual to see a royal on the witness stand. a royal prhse— the witness stand. a royal prtmse gomg— the witness stand. a royal prince going into the witness how— prince going into the witness how to— prince going into the witness how to ghe— prince going into the witness box to give evidence in a very somtemttoos— box to give evidence in a very contentious case— box to give evidence in a very contentious case against mirror stoop— contentious case against mirror group newspapers. c group newspapers. that hasn't happened ever since the 19th century. it is unprecedented. i mean, there's nothing in the british constitution that says a royal prince cannot give evidence or cannot be called to give a witness, to be a witness . and four children have q and four children have died. . and four children have died. amt— . and four children have died. amt o— . and four children have died. amt o mm— . and four children have died. amt o ts— and four children have died. and a man is missing in canada otter— and a man is missing in canada otter they— and a man is missing in canada after they were— and a man is missing in canada after they were swept into a ther— after they were swept into a h— after they were swept into a river in quebec.— after they were swept into a river in quebec. police say the group— river in quebec. police say the groop ws— river in quebec. police say the group was fishing— river in quebec. police say the group was fishing when the hsttemt— group was fishing when the incident happened . the children incident happened. the children who— incident happened. the children who wee— incident happened. the children who ott— incident happened. the children who were all over— incident happened. the children who were all over the age of ten tooht— who were all over the age of ten were found unresponsive on the shoe — were found unresponsive on the shoe sto— were found unresponsive on the shore. six other— were found unresponsive on the shore. six other people have teem— shore. six other people have been rescued _ shore. six other people have been rescued and this is gb

news— been rescued and this is gb wews wett— been rescued and this is gb news, we'll bring you more as it happens.— news, we'll bring you more as it hoppems. wow— news, we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's— news, we'll bring you more as it happens. now let's get back to tmtty— happens. now let's get back to tmtty-sh— happens. now let's get back to emily-gb news— happens. now let's get back to emily-gb news .- emily and gb news. sunday ithmt— emily and gb news. sunday |thmt yoo— emily and gb news. sunday l thmt yoo very- emily and gb news. sunday . thank you very much- thank you very much indeed, ray . have utley our . now i have olivia utley our political reporter in the studio with take us through some with me to take us through some of the westminster of the biggest westminster politico stories of the day of the week. even now. first up, rishi sunak is going over to the us very soon this week, coming . us very soon this week, coming. he's going to see president biden again. yes , it's going to biden again. yes, it's going to be biden again. yes, it's going to he om— biden again. yes, it's going to be an interesting— biden again. yes, it's going to be an interesting trip- : page " yes, it's going to be an interesting trip up, but we're not expecting there to be any— we're not expecting there to be my tott— we're not expecting there to be my tott ot— we're not expecting there to be my tott ot o— we're not expecting there to be any talk of a bilateral trade test— any talk of a bilateral trade deal between— any talk of a bilateral trade deal between a— any talk of a bilateral trade deal between a free trade deal between— deal between a free trade deal hetweem the— deal between a free trade deal between the us— deal between a free trade deal between the us and the uk , which between the us and the uk, which tsets— between the us and the uk, which teets to— between the us and the uk, which teets to some— between the us and the uk, which feels to some as— between the us and the uk, which feels to some as though it's a bit feels to some as though it's a htt ot— feels to some as though it's a htt ot o— feels to some as though it's a htt ot o step— feels to some as though it's a bit of a step backwards. we're totttmg— bit of a step backwards. we're talking about— bit of a step backwards. we're talking about it— bit of a step backwards. we're talking about it for so long. the— talking about it for so long. the opportunities— talking about it for so long. the opportunities of- talking about it for so long. the opportunities of brexit to have this massive trade deal

with the united states . but no. with the united states. but no. well, absolutely. it was supposed well, absolutely. it was sopposet to— well, absolutely. it was supposed to be,- lattice chino it was supposed to be, you know, well, absolutely. it was- supposed to be, you know, that orosreo—smso-l was one of the reasons why a hoge— was one of the reasons why a hoge ,— was one of the reasons why a hoge , hoge— was one of the reasons why a huge , huge reason people huge, huge reason why people voted— huge, huge reason why people voted . brexit _ huge, huge reason why people voted-brexit was- huge, huge reason why people voted brexit was was a great voted for brexit was was a great tree— voted for brexit was was a great tree trote — voted for brexit was was a great free trade deal— voted for brexit was was a great free trade deal between britain voted for brexit was was a great free the ie deal between britain voted for brexit was was a great free the ie dttheoetween britain voted for brexit was was a great free the ie dtthe negotiation ain voted for brexit was was a great free the ie dtthe negotiation was and the us. the negotiation was started— and the us. the negotiation was stmet m— and the us. the negotiation was started in 2020— and the us. the negotiation was started in 2020 under donald tromp— started in 2020 under donald tromp. rt— started in 2020 under donald tromp. rt tert— started in 2020 under donald trump. it felt like they were progresstmg— trump. it felt like they were progressing, albeit slowly under joe progressing, albeit slowly under roe hrtem. — progressing, albeit slowly under roe hrtem. rt— progressing, albeit slowly under joe biden. it feels— progressing, albeit slowly under joe biden. it feels pretty much as thoogh— joe biden. it feels pretty much as though these— joe biden. it feels pretty much as though these negotiations howe— as though these negotiations have stalled— as though these negotiations have stalled altogether. and as i have stalled altogether. and as r soy— have stalled altogether. and as r soy m— have stalled altogether. and as r soy m thts— have stalled altogether. and as i say in this bilateral meeting hetweem— i say in this bilateral meeting hetweem the— i say in this bilateral meeting between the two _ i say in this bilateral meeting between the two next week, we're not eem— between the two next week, we're not even expected _ between the two next week, we're not even expected the conversation - not even expected the conversation to come up there tottthg— conversation to come up there totttmg moot— conversation to come up there talking about strengthening esmom-— talking about strengthening economic-. but- talking about strengthening economic . but it'll be to economic ties. but it'll be to do economic ties. but it'll be to to wtth— economic ties. but it'll be to do with lowering— economic ties. but it'll be to do with lowering trade barriers hetweem— do with lowering trade barriers between britain _ do with lowering trade barriers between britain and certain us states— between britain and certain us states .— between britain and certain us states . wow,— between britain and certain us states . now, joe— between britain and certain us states . now, joe biden actually states. now, joe biden actually hm— states. now, joe biden actually hot o— states. now, joe biden actually hot o whtte— states. now, joe biden actually had a white house official on his had a white house official on hts hehott— had a white house official on his behalf, had— had a white house official on his behalf, had to tell reporters— his behalf, had to tell reporters that joe biden is not mt— reporters that joe biden is not mtt hrtttsh— reporters that joe biden is not anti british. that— reporters that joe biden is not anti british. that is the point that— anti british. that is the point that w-wee— anti british. that is the point that got— anti british. that is the point that we've got to. but yeah , it that we've got to. but yeah, it shooto— that we've got to. but yeah, it shoott he— that we've got to. but yeah, it shoott he on— that we've got to. but yeah, it should be an interesting meethg— should be an interesting meeting. but— should be an interesting meeting. but i think it's safe to soy— meeting. but i think it's safe to soy that— meeting. but i think it's safe to say that we're— meeting. but i think it's safe to say that we're not expecting to say that we're not expecting to — to say that we're not expecting to teops— to say that we're not expecting to see leaps forward on that amt— to see leaps forward on that issue. and the— to see leaps forward on that issue. and the only other prohtem — issue. and the only other problem which they're planning

to ttssoss— problem which they're planning to ttssoss ts— problem which they're planning to discuss is ukraine and how to how— to discuss is ukraine and how to how to— to discuss is ukraine and how to how to sustain— to discuss is ukraine and how to how to sustain the _ to discuss is ukraine and how to how to sustain the help going to— how to sustain the help going over to ukraine— how to sustain the help going over to ukraine and it's thought that— over to ukraine and it's thought that httem— over to ukraine and it's thought that biden might— over to ukraine and it's thought that biden might put pressure on ttsht— that biden might put pressure on ttsht somt— that biden might put pressure on rishi sunak to— that biden might put pressure on rishi sunak to up— that biden might put pressure on rishi sunak to up level of rishi sunak to up the level of aid rishi sunak to up the level of mt gomg— rishi sunak to up the level of aid going ukraine, which aid going to ukraine, which woott— aid going to ukraine, which woott he— aid going to ukraine, which would be very— aid going to ukraine, which would be very difficult for ttsht— would be very difficult for rishi sunak,— would be very difficult for rishi sunak, of- would be very difficult for rishi sunak, of course, as he is tosmg— rishi sunak, of course, as he is tosmg-ot— rishi sunak, of course, as he is facing-of living- facing this cost of living srtsts— facing this cost of living crisis back— facing this cost of living crisis back home. \r:::rrr facing this cost of living- crisis back home. now, another story just talking about story we were just talking about earlier the promise or the earlier is the promise or the hope that the conservatives, that rishi sunak may be able to deliver a p tax cut and more deliver a to p tax cut and more economic ties with the united states could mean that that is more possible . you are very more possible. you are very opttmtstts— more possible. you are very optimistic as— more possible. you are very optimistic as things- “ritrhzi; you are very optimistic as things stand. it toesh-t— optimistic as things stand. it doesn't sound— optimistic as things stand. it doesn't sound like any sort of ttme— doesn't sound like any sort of taste test— doesn't sound like any sort of trade deal that— doesn't sound like any sort of trade deal that the prime wtmtster— trade deal that the prime minister can— trade deal that the prime minister can agree with. the us whtt— minister can agree with. the us wttt whtt— minister can agree with. the us will will massively will make mosh— will will massively will make moshlm— will will massively will make muchlan impact- will will massively will make much an impact at all on much of an impact at all on hrtttsh— much of an impact at all on british purses— much of an impact at all on british purses back home. rishi somt— british purses back home. rishi sohot ts— british purses back home. rishi sunak is fighting— british purses back home. rishi sunak is fighting on two fronts here— sunak is fighting on two fronts here mt— sunak is fighting on two fronts here mt tt— sunak is fighting on two fronts here and it is— sunak is fighting on two fronts here and it is very— sunak is fighting on two fronts here and it is very tough for mm.— here and it is very tough for htm. oh— here and it is very tough for htm. oh the— here and it is very tough for him. on the one— here and it is very tough for him. on the one hand, he knows that— him. on the one hand, he knows that m— him. on the one hand, he knows that m otter— him. on the one hand, he knows that in order to— him. on the one hand, he knows that in order to get— him. on the one hand, he knows that in order to get his conservative- that in order to get his conservative backbenchers back on she— conservative backbenchers back on stte gotte— conservative backbenchers back on stte gotte o— conservative backbenchers back on side quite a lot— conservative backbenchers back on side quite a lot of them are ott— on side quite a lot of them are old fashioned— on side quite a lot of them are old fashioned thatcherite, small state— old fashioned thatcherite, small state tomes.— old fashioned thatcherite, small state tories. he— old fashioned thatcherite, small

state tories. he is— old fashioned thatcherite, small state tories. he is going to howe— state tories. he is going to have to— state tories. he is going to have to sot— state tories. he is going to have to cut taxes . it's also, as have to cut taxes. it's also, as hes— have to cut taxes. it's also, as he-s hopmg— have to cut taxes. it's also, as he-s hoptmg ,— have to cut taxes. it's also, as he-s hoptmg , o— have to cut taxes. it's also, as he's hoping, a way to incentivise- he's hoping, a way to incentivise people to go back to wort. — incentivise people to go back to wort. voo— incentivise people to go back to wort. woo sot— incentivise people to go back to work. you cut national insurance tax work. you cut national insurance tor mt— work. you cut national insurance tor mt tt— work. you cut national insurance tax and it persuades people that msteot— tax and it persuades people that msteot ot— tax and it persuades people that instead of staying— tax and it persuades people that instead of staying at home or wortmg— instead of staying at home or wortmg pm— instead of staying at home or working part time, they should go host— working part time, they should go host to— working part time, they should go back to work— working part time, they should go back to work time, which go back to work full time, which woott— go back to work full time, which would address— go back to work full time, which would address major crisis in would address a major crisis in thts— would address a major crisis in thts soomtry— would address a major crisis in thts soomtry ,— would address a major crisis in this country , which is the this country, which is the sommg— this country, which is the soaring rates— this country, which is the soaring rates of worklessness . soaring rates of worklessness. on soaring rates of worklessness. oh the — soaring rates of worklessness. oh the other— soaring rates of worklessness. on the other hand, the health sesretmy— on the other hand, the health sesretmy mt— on the other hand, the health secretary and jeremy hunt ostootty— secretary and jeremy hunt actually the _ secretary and jeremy hunt actually the chancellor, are both— actually the chancellor, are both demanding more money for the hts.— both demanding more money for the nhs. there— both demanding more money for the nhs. there is— both demanding more money for the nhs. there is talk of £1 httttoh— the nhs. there is talk of £1 billion package— the nhs. there is talk of £1 billion package to fund the nhs, mstotmg— billion package to fund the nhs, including training— billion package to fund the nhs, including training twice as many tostors— including training twice as many doctors between— including training twice as many doctors between now and 2028 as hot— doctors between now and 2028 as we've had trained— doctors between now and 2028 as we've had trained in— doctors between now and 2028 as we've had trained in the last three— we've had trained in the last three yes — we've had trained in the last three years. also,— we've had trained in the last three years. also, 24,000 nurses mt— three years. also, 24,000 nurses mt mttwtwes— three years. also, 24,000 nurses and midwives. i— three years. also, 24,000 nurses and midwives. i mean, that comes wtth— and midwives. i mean, that comes wtth o— and midwives. i mean, that comes wtth o hoge— and midwives. i mean, that comes wtth o hoge prtse— and midwives. i mean, that comes with a huge price tag attached mt— with a huge price tag attached mt how— with a huge price tag attached and how rishi— with a huge price tag attached and how rishi sunak will balance sottmg— and how rishi sunak will balance sotttmg totes— and how rishi sunak will balance cutting taxes while _ and how rishi sunak will balance cutting taxes while spending so mosh— cutting taxes while spending so much more on the— cutting taxes while spending so much more on the nhs. are you soggestmg— much more on the nhs. are you soggesttmg that— much more on the nhs. are you suggesting that perhaps the momersh— suggesting that perhaps the numbers don't— suggesting that perhaps the numbers don't add up? possibly the momersh— numbers don't add up? possibly the numbers don't— numbers don't add up? possibly the numbers don't quite liam hotttgm— the numbers don't quite liam hotttgm me— the numbers don't quite liam halligan are economics editor to do halligan are economics editor to to the— halligan are economics editor to to the sos— halligan are economics editor to do the sums and— halligan are economics editor to do the sums and work out just

how— do the sums and work out just how mosh— do the sums and work out just how mosh the— do the sums and work out just how much the government would potemttotty— how much the government would potentially lose _ how much the government would potentially lose with the £0.02 tax potentially lose with the £0.02 tor msome— potentially lose with the £0.02 tax income income tax cut how mosh— tax income income tax cut how mosh wet— tax income income tax cut how mosh we-t rose,— tax income income tax cut how much we'd lose, how much the memory— much we'd lose, how much the treasury would— much we'd lose, how much the treasury would lose , and how treasury would lose, and how mosh— treasury would lose, and how mosh we— treasury would lose, and how mosh we-to— treasury would lose, and how much we to spend, and much we need to spend, and whether—pl much we need to spend, andi whether—o gop whether there's a bit of a gap emergmg— whether there's a bit of a gap emerging there. _ whether there's a bit of a gap emerging there. " emerging there. but in terms of rishi sunak's relationship with president biden, it does look a bit easier. perhaps than the relationship with with boris johnson because, of course, bofis johnson because, of course, boris johnson appeared to be close trump . trump was a close to trump. trump was a supporter brexit. biden not supporter of brexit. biden not so sunak isn't so so much. rishi sunak isn't so brexity as his predecessor. certainly, i think that rishi sunakin certainly, i think that rishi sunak in general is having smoother relationships with quite a lot of world leaders than it's the fourth meeting. i think boris johnson yeah, it is. and that in itself is, is a step toward— and that in itself is, is a step torwmt om— and that in itself is, is a step forward on the— and that in itself is, is a step forward on the other hand, joe httem— forward on the other hand, joe httem ts— forward on the other hand, joe httem ts hts— forward on the other hand, joe biden is his has— forward on the other hand, joe biden is his has been intervening- biden is his has been intervening on the question of the northern— intervening on the question of the northern ireland protocol ogmm— the northern ireland protocol ogmm mt— the northern ireland protocol again and again— the northern ireland protocol again and again over ever since he ws— again and again over ever since he etestest— again and again over ever since he was elected. really he sees htmsett— he was elected. really he sees htmsett os— he was elected. really he sees himself as as— he was elected. really he sees himself as as irish— he was elected. really he sees himself as as irish and that that— himself as as irish and that that sort— himself as as irish and that that sort ot— himself as as irish and that that sort of informs everything that— that sort of informs everything that he— that sort of informs everything that he says. — that sort of informs everything that he says. and— that sort of informs everything that he says. and i think that

gets— that he says. and i think that gets om— that he says. and i think that gets on ttsht— that he says. and i think that gets on rishi sunak nerves. he otwtoosty— gets on rishi sunak nerves. he obviously worked— gets on rishi sunak nerves. he obviously worked very, very hard to agree— obviously worked very, very hard to agree the— obviously worked very, very hard to agree the windsor protocol to sotwe — to agree the windsor protocol to sotwe the — to agree the windsor protocol to solve the windsor— to agree the windsor protocol to solve the windsor framework or to rwesote— solve the windsor framework or to resolve the— solve the windsor framework or to resolve the northern irish hrotosot— to resolve the northern irish protocol issue. _ to resolve the northern irish protocol issue. and joe biden wept— protocol issue. and joe biden tept wmtmg— protocol issue. and joe biden kept wanting to _ protocol issue. and joe biden kept wanting to get his $0.02 in on whether— kept wanting to get his $0.02 in on whether tt— kept wanting to get his $0.02 in on whether it should be going mem— on whether it should be going meot os— on whether it should be going ahead as planned. so i think the retottomshtp— ahead as planned. so i think the relationship between the two is smoother— relationship between the two is smoother .— relationship between the two is smoother . yes,— relationship between the two is smoother . yes, and i relationship between the two is smoother. yes, and i think rishi somt— smoother. yes, and i think rishi sohot hos— smoother. yes, and i think rishi sunak has been— smoother. yes, and i think rishi sunak has been doing everything he—restore- he can to sort of restore ttptomotts— he can to sort of restore diplomatic relations after what woslpretty— diplomatic relations after what was pretty tumultuous boris was a pretty tumultuous boris rohmsom— was a pretty tumultuous boris johnson tenure. _ was a pretty tumultuous boris johnson tenure. but it doesn't soomt— johnson tenure. but it doesn't soomt os— johnson tenure. but it doesn't sound as though— johnson tenure. but it doesn't sound as though sort of cordial as the— sound as though sort of cordial as the relationship is. it toesh-t— as the relationship is. it doesn't sound- as the relationship is. it doesn't sound like it's actually going— doesn't sound like it's actually gomg to— doesn't sound like it's actually gomg to progress— doesn't sound like it's actually going to progress very far in thts— going to progress very far in this meeting. _ going to progress very far in this meeting. lattice this meeting. well, hopefully what will happen is we'll be able apparently rishi sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso apparently rishi sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso going'ently rishi sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso going to tly rishi sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso going to speakii sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso going to speak to sunak what will happen is we'll be atalso going to speak to huge is also going to speak to huge numbers of business leaders and people who earn lots of money and have lots of businesses in the us, particularly in california. and texas, i believe is where he's hoping some more economic ties. well, economic ties might improve to our to our benefit. so fingers crossed

rishi sunak will be able to deliver on that one. he certainly does need to deliver and that's what he certainly does. he and that's what he certainly does . he does and that's what he certainly does. he does his and that's what he certainly does . he does his favourite does. he does his favourite phrase. thank you very much indeed. olivia utley there, our political reporter taking us through stories through some of the top stories from westminster and the world of politics. so for today's big debate , i will be joined by debate, i will be joined by broadcaster darren grimes, who is, of course, a gb news presenter here and also the former editor of labour list, peter edwards . i'm going to be peter edwards. i'm going to be talking to them about rather a few things, actually . many few things, actually. many people, especially within the conservative party, will undoubtedly welcome this tax cut, given that the tax burden is at a 70 year high. that's the £0.02 tax cut on income tax that we're all hoping for. others, however, might say it's a bit reckless considering inflation is still stubbornly high. and of course there are so many demands on purse , perhaps we on the public purse, perhaps we need taxes so high after need to keep taxes so high after all, look what happened when liz

truss tried to slash taxes . truss tried to slash taxes. well, it didn't go too well for her, did it? she was shown the door because of the efforts and going into the next election saying he has cut taxes on working people and will cut them further if he's re—elected, may increase his chances of a general election victory. but is it right for the prime minister to consider taking such risks if you consider it a risk with the british economy for his political gain? so i am now joined by broadcast dan grimes and former editor of labourlist peter edward. thank you very much indeed forjoining me. right this £0.02 tax cut are you cynical about it? absolutely not. i'm delighted by the prospest— not. i'm delighted by the prospest. — not. i'm delighted by the prospect . emily,- i'm delighted by the prospect. t,’ gr; i'm delighted by the prospect . t,’ gr; i'm delighted by the prospect . no gr; prospect. emily, get out the confetti. imean, prospect. emily, get out the confetti. i mean, emily, i prospect. g f i mean, emily, i don't confetti. i mean, emily, i don't mow— confetti. i mean, emily, i don't know moot— confetti. i mean, emily, i don't know about you. _ confetti. i mean, emily, i don't know about you. in- f i mean, emily, i don't know about you. " ”fort f i mean, emily, i don't know about you. " ”art know about you. in fact, i know full well that actually you are someone at this moment who i imagine could do with a to p tax cut right ? i mean, emily's cut right? i mean, emily's specifically . absolutely. specifically. absolutely. emily's just bought herself a lovely property. but imagine a imagine the burden , right? for

imagine the burden, right? for people like yourself in your position. young people who may want to start a family don't tell patrick. i've just said that on national television . my that on national television. my life. i am. i am. but look, it's a serious proposition given where people are saying i can't afford to have a child. right. i can't afford to have a child. right. i sm-t ostootty— afford to have a child. right. i can't actually afford- afford to have a child. right. i can't actually afford to- : c r: right. i can't actually afford to get on the— can't actually afford to get on the hoosmg— can't actually afford to get on the housing ladder. and labour are the housing ladder. and labour ore-wett— the housing ladder. and labour ore-wew ,— the housing ladder. and labour are-well , maybe- the housing ladder. and labour are well , maybe we are saying, well, maybe we shoott— are saying, well, maybe we should consider— are saying, well, maybe we should consider putting up mherttet— should consider putting up inherited -well,- should consider putting up inherited well, last inherited tax. well, last night on the— inherited tax. well, last night on the saturday— inherited tax. well, last night on the saturday five, we ttssosset— on the saturday five, we discussed length the way in discussed at length the way in whtsh— discussed at length the way in which inheritance— discussed at length the way in which inheritance tax is ostootty— which inheritance tax is actually dragging people in thmts— actually dragging people in thmts to— actually dragging people in thanks to inflation. " thanks to inflation. thanks to, wet.— thanks to inflation. thanks to, woo. the— thanks to inflation. thanks to, well, the inflationary cost of housing just going through the roof , housing just going through the roof, ordinary people being dragged into it. and it's those sort of things where actually we're we're making ourselves uncompetitive globally . but uncompetitive globally. but domestically, people are really struggling and that's having a knock on effect on child children , on barren people children, on barren people having children and a whole host of other issues , business just of other issues, business just not being able to compete . so not being able to compete. so that's where i want to see britain start to become a little bit more sense able. darren

grimes says cut— bit more sense able. darren grimes says cut taxes- c darren grimes says cut taxes and we'll howe— grimes says cut taxes and we'll have more babies.— grimes says cut taxes and we'll have more babies. absolutely. som-t— have more babies. absolutely. sm-t wort.— have more babies. absolutely. can't wait. they— have more babies. absolutely. can't wait. they might- have more babies. absolutely. can't wait. they might well be a lake. there. can't wait. they might well be a lake. there . i wonder, peter, it lake. there. i wonder, peter, it to— lake. there. i wonder, peter, it to he— lake. there. i wonder, peter, it seems to be that— there. i wonder, peter, it seems to be that the government are seems to be that the government soymg— seems to be that the government soymg that— seems to be that the government are saying that this— seems to be that the government are saying that this tax cut soote— are saying that this tax cut could incentivise those people who— could incentivise those people who oe— could incentivise those people who are currently— could incentivise those people who are currently on benefits or not wortmg— who are currently on benefits or not wortmg or— who are currently on benefits or not working or older people hoe— not working or older people who've decided _ not working or older people who've decided to take early rettremeht— who've decided to take early retirement or— who've decided to take early retirement or whatever to get host— retirement or whatever to get host mto — retirement or whatever to get back into the— retirement or whatever to get back into the workplace because they-tt— back into the workplace because they-tt he— back into the workplace because they'll be getting— back into the workplace because they'll be getting a little bit more money. do— they'll be getting a little bit more money. do you think that is me— more money. do you think that is troe e — more money. do you think that is troe e war.— more money. do you think that is true ? well, hold— more money. do you think that is true ? well, hold on.- more money. do you think that is true ? �*ow�*rz;cc r: more money. do you think that is true ? �*ow�*ricc “tilt: tit" grir true? well, hold on. let's go back a step. darren referred to this as serious. i would call it unserious. there— this as serious. i would call it unserious. there is- this as serious. i would call it unserious. there is no tax cut. the tories haven't even announced a pipe dream. they've briefed out a pipe dream that might happen in future . rishi might happen in future. rishi sunak was chancellor and raise taxes.i sunak was chancellor and raise taxes. i understand that because we've known of covid to be fair, peter , we have known for a while peter, we have known for a while that is sunak's that this is rishi sunak's aim is to cut income tax before i think it's probably just this report. is it the aim of every politician in the world to cut taxes ? that's what i mean. it's

taxes? that's what i mean. it's a statement of the obvious. it's a statement of the obvious. it's a pipe dream . why is that a pipe dream. why is that happening? because rishi sunak is under pressure from the tory, right. backbenchers in parliament, people like john redwood, who know that is parliament, people like john redworking�*io know that is parliament, people like john redworking for

teothg— hands of people and potentially testing to— hands of people and potentially leading to more— hands of people and potentially leading to more money in the tong— leading to more money in the tomg rom— leading to more money in the tomg hemg— leading to more money in the long run, being in the memory-s— long run, being in the treasury's coffers because more economic activity,— treasury's coffers because more economic activity, people spemtmg— economic activity, people spending more money, people wortmg— spending more money, people working longer— spending more money, people working longer hours so they can mote— working longer hours so they can make more money— working longer hours so they can make more money cetera. et setero— make more money cetera. et setero .— make more money cetera. et setero . tt— make more money cetera. et cetera . et cetera. " cetera. et cetera. i mean, look, it's got absolutely naff all to do with brexit either, right? because i did hear the word do with brexit either, right? - because i did hear the word yes. no, because i did hear the word yes. we. that-s— because i did hear the word yes. we. that-s hot— because i did hear the word yes. no, that's not what— because i did hear the word yes. no, that's not what the- no, that's not what the independent obr said. well, i mean peter german is in recession. idon't mean peter german is in recession. i don't recall them temmg— recession. i don't recall them temmg the— ”ccclerer cit" i don't recall them leaving the european ”ccclerer tit" i don't recall them leaving the european union ”ccclerer cit" i don't recall them leaving the european union . ”ccclerer oio“ i don't recall them leaving the european union . leaving the european union. the ott— leaving the european union. the oht smo— leaving the european union. the oht sort the— leaving the european union. the obr said the point— leaving the european union. the obr said the point ._ leaving the european union. the obr said the point. no,- leaving the european union. the obr said the point . no, no, i obr said the point. no, no, i said the obr, who independent said the obr, who independent said the obr, who independent said the reasons why the economy is performing at a lower rate is because of brexit and covid. it's not opinion, it's just it's not my opinion, it's just a fact. obe it's not my opinion, it's just a fact . obe also revised. yeah, fact. obe also revised. yeah, exostty— fact. obe also revised. yeah, exostty .— fact. obe also revised. yeah, eoostty . amt— fact. obe also revised. yeah, exactly . and they— �*roiotc obe also revised. yeah, exactly . and they also said it exactly. and they also said it woott— exactly. and they also said it woott he— exactly. and they also said it would be down— exactly. and they also said it would be down the swanny woottm-t— would be down the swanny wouldn't—just. would be down the swanny- wouldn't_just went wouldn't they, if they just went mem— wouldn't they, if they just went msoe-tt— wouldn't they, if they just went ahead. if am correct ahead. if i am, if i am correct mt—om— ahead. if i am, if i am correct met—om . - ahead. if i am, if i am correct met—om . the- ahead. if i am, if i am correctl and—am . the obr ahead. if i am, if i am correct- and_am. the obr did and i believe i am. the obr did ooso— and i believe i am. the obr did also say that the tax burden was crippling the economy to now be feel free to fact check me on that one, but i am almost 100% sure that in an earlier report they named that as being one of they named that as being one of the biggest drags on our economy and regulatory outlook

and also the regulatory outlook . absolutely. vat then because it . absolutely. vat then because tt hots— . absolutely. vat then because tt htts poorer— absolutely. vat then because it hits poorer households more . it hits poorer households more. r-m — it hits poorer households more. m not— it hits poorer households more. m not tgomst— it hits poorer households more. i'm not against cutting- it hits poorer households more. i'm not against cutting vat- it hits poorer households more. i'm not against cutting vat. i'm not against cutting vat. i'm not against cutting taxes as a i'm not against cutting taxes as o rote— i'm not against cutting taxes as o rote ,— i'm not against cutting taxes as o rote , to— i'm not against cutting taxes as o rote , to he— i'm not against cutting taxes as a rule , to be honest. i think a rule, to be honest. i think ostootty— a rule, to be honest. i think ostootty m— a rule, to be honest. i think actually in this— a rule, to be honest. i think actually in this brexit moment, we to— actually in this brexit moment, we to howe— actually in this brexit moment, we to have to— actually in this brexit moment, we do have to be— actually in this brexit moment, we do have to be looking at ways in we do have to be looking at ways he whtsh— we do have to be looking at ways he whtsh we— we do have to be looking at ways in which we can— we do have to be looking at ways in which we can make britain more competitive. because i tell you— more competitive. because i tell yoo—oppopotm- more competitive. because i tell yoo—oppopotm osl you what, emily, unpopular as thts—me— you what, emily, unpopular as thts—me wtth- you what, emily, unpopular as this—me with the. you what, emily, unpopular as. this—me with the likes this may make me with the likes of this may make me with the likes ot—thmt— this may make me with the likes ot—thmt tts- this may make me with the likes of_think liz truss- of peter, but i think liz truss is of peter, but i think liz truss ts gomg— of peter, but i think liz truss ts gomg to— of peter, but i think liz truss is going to write— of peter, but i think liz truss is going to write the longest. i tott— is going to write the longest. i tott yoo— is going to write the longest. i tott yoo so— is going to write the longest. i told you so.this_ is going to write the longest. i told you so this nation's told you so in this nation's htstory— told you so in this nation's htstory . — told you so in this nation's htstory . wow.— told you so in this nation's history . now, i- told you so in this nation's history . toioor : �*" told you so in this nation's history . \oioro : �*" orino history. now, i wonder if very quickly, we can touch upon another story , which i believe another story, which i believe you've both been briefed on, which this net zero grocery which is this net zero grocery tax . apparently there's going to tax. apparently there's going to be extra money put on retailers and manufacturers. they're going to for our recycling to have to pay for our recycling . and this is apparently going to have to pay for our recycling . acosthis is apparently going to have to pay for our recycling . acost us is apparently going to have to pay for our recycling . acost us £140 parently going to have to pay for our recycling . acost us £140 onently going to have to pay for our recycling .acost us £140 on our! going to have to pay for our recycling . acost us £140 on our shopping to cost us £140 on our shopping bills. well, mean , we're bills. well, look, i mean, we're mso— bills. well, look, i mean, we're otso hemmg— bills. well, look, i mean, we're also hearing about— well, look, i mean, we're also hearing about how there's going— also hearing about how there's gohg—omi going to be a hydrogen tax on energy— going to be a hydrogen tax on energy-os— going to be a hydrogen tax on energy-as wett. - going to be a hydrogen tax on energy-as well. i- going to be a hydrogen tax on energy as well. i mean, energy bills as well. i mean, hrttom— energy bills as well. i mean, britain-taxed- energy bills as well. i mean, britain-taxed up- energy bills as well. i mean, britain taxed up to its britain is just taxed up to its eyehotts— britain is just taxed up to its eyeballs. this— britain is just taxed up to its eyeballs. this is— britain is just taxed up to its eyeballs. this is obscene . but eyeballs. this is obscene. but it eyeballs. this is obscene. but tt-the— eyeballs. this is obscene. but tt-the romt— eyeballs. this is obscene. but it-the point of- eyeballs. this is obscene. but it the point of the it goes to the point of the whore— it goes to the point of the whote green— it goes to the point of the whole green agenda, in my view . whole green agenda, in my view. it's whole green agenda, in my view. ots—the- whole green agenda, in my view. it's—the wealthy. it's that those who the wealthy mt— it's that those who the wealthy mt mtttte— it's that those who the wealthy and middle classes, they might be and middle classes, they might he mte— and middle classes, they might he mte to— and middle classes, they might be able to afford— and middle classes, they might be able to afford to have

tights— be able to afford to have flights that— be able to afford to have flights that are made expensive like flights that are made expensive the yoo— flights that are made expensive like you wouldn't— flights that are made expensive like you wouldn't believe or they— like you wouldn't believe or they may— like you wouldn't believe or they may te— like you wouldn't believe or they may be able to afford food in supermarkets,— they may be able to afford food in supermarkets, but it's going to he— in supermarkets, but it's going to he the— in supermarkets, but it's going to be the least— in supermarkets, but it's going to be the least well off who sm-t— to be the least well off who can't afford— to be the least well off who can't afford to— to be the least well off who can't afford to go on one measly hotttoy— can't afford to go on one measly hotttoy o— can't afford to go on one measly hotttoy o yem— can't afford to go on one measly holiday a year, can't afford to theor— holiday a year, can't afford to use their car,— holiday a year, can't afford to use their car, can't afford sheop— use their car, can't afford sheop toot— use their car, can't afford cheap food in— use their car, can't afford cheap food in supermarkets and all cheap food in supermarkets and oh ot— cheap food in supermarkets and oh ot these— cheap food in supermarkets and all of these other— cheap food in supermarkets and all of these other things. the thong— all of these other things. the thtmg ts.— all of these other things. the thing is, darren,— all of these other things. the thing is, darren, a— all of these other things. the thing is, darren, a lot- all of these other things. the thing is, darren, a lot of people who support the net zero drive and will always say, they always say , oh, no, net zero always say, oh, no, net zero isn't costing us. it's cheaper than the alternative. is that what you believe , peter i what you believe, peter i wouldn't i don't think it's that simple. lots of good things cost money to— simple. lots of good things cost more money to go— lots of good things cost more money to go back 25 years. hmtmg— more money to go back 25 years. howmg o— more money to go back 25 years. having a national— more money to go back 25 years. having a national minimum wage sost— having a national minimum wage sost mmey— having a national minimum wage sost mmey — having a national minimum wage cost more money. 1740 cost more money. £40 potentially on shopping. got on our shopping. but you've got to answer. so you to let me finish answer. so you know, the national minimum wage costs more money, but it is a right to do and it's good right thing to do and it's good for productivity it for productivity and it incentivises the long incentivises work in the long run not cripple run. and it did not cripple tesso— run. and it did not cripple tesso or— run. and it did not cripple tesco or anyone- “ and it did not cripple tesco or anyone else. we've got poth— tesco or anyone else. we've got hoth mmh— tesco or anyone else. we've got both main parties— tesco or anyone else. we've got both main parties committed to net both main parties committed to met ots— both main parties committed to net zero. it's going— both main parties committed to net zero. it's going to happen, hot— net zero. it's going to happen, hot-tor— net zero. it's going to happen, hot-tor-tttei but i suspect for debates like thts— but i suspect for debates like thts-prototy—

but i suspect for debates like this, probably going to this, we're probably going to mss— this, we're probably going to missldeadline_ this, we're probably going to miss deadline of 2050. miss a deadline of 2050. hterestmg— miss a deadline of 2050. interesting what miss a deadline of 2050.- interesting what-about interesting what you say about the-wage,- interesting what you say about the wage, because the minimum wage, because i mtght— the minimum wage, because i mtgogwes— the minimum wage, because i migigives businesses an excuse just gives businesses an excuse to tost— just gives businesses an excuse to host heme— just gives businesses an excuse to just leave wages at that rote.— to just leave wages at that mote-— to just leave wages at that ro.ote- rost- to just leave wages at that rate. a risk around rate. there is a risk around that.— rate. there is a risk around that. absolutely. �*o�*o�*ioii: coo?" that. absolutely. we can just stret— that. absolutely. we can just stick to whatever that stick to whatever it is that goes to inflation being goes back to inflation being very high from there. well, unfortunately think that's very high from there. well, unfwe've tely think that's very high from there. well, unfwe've got think that's very high from there. well, unfwe've got timeiink that's very high from there. well, unfwe've got time for that's very high from there. well, unfwe've got time for with�*s all we've got time for with both of peter of you. darren grimes and peter edwards from labourlist. edwards there from labourlist. thank indeed. you thank you very much indeed. you are watching listening to gb are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. lots more carver. we've got lots more coming on today's show. holly coming up on today's show. holly willoughby is reportedly preparing and personal preparing an honest and personal statement to address the scandal surrounding phillip schofield when she returns to present itv's this morning tomorrow. what do you think she'll have to say? and will you believe it? but first, let's take look at say? and will you believe it? but weather:'s take look at say? and will you believe it? but weather with ke look at say? and will you believe it? but weather with greg. hello the weather with greg. hello there. i'm greg cg hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and shoe— there. i'm greg dewhurst and estoe to— there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your— there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather— welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. _ welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. we've got msreosmg— weather forecast. we've got increasing-of- weather forecast. we've got increasing of cloud increasing amounts of cloud throogh— increasing amounts of cloud through tonight, but it will mean another— through tonight, but it will mean another dry day on monday as that— mean another dry day on monday as that toms— mean another dry day on monday as that burns away— mean another dry day on monday as that burns away and high pressure really— as that burns away and high pressure really is around for the— pressure really is around for the mett— pressure really is around for the next few— pressure really is around for the next few days. it is control of controlling— the next few days. it is control of controlling our— the next few days. it is control of controlling our weather, teepmg— of controlling our weather,

teepmgltry— of controlling our weather, keeping dry and largely keeping it dry and largely setttest— keeping it dry and largely settled, though it will be quite breezy— settled, though it will be quite hreeysoss-- settled, though it will be quite breezy across some settled, though it will be quite breezy coast across some settled, though it will be quite breezy coast in across some settled, though it will be quite breezy coast in the ss some settled, though it will be quite breezy coast in the southeast eastern coast in the southeast in eastern coast in the southeast m pmtsotm— eastern coast in the southeast in particular here.— eastern coast in the southeast in particular here. so through the rest— in particular here. so through the rest ot— in particular here. so through the rest of sunday into the ewemmg— the rest of sunday into the evening time,— the rest of sunday into the evening time, you can see fine enter— evening time, you can see fine enter the— evening time, you can see fine enter the toy— evening time, you can see fine enter the day for— evening time, you can see fine enter the day for many. but this tow— enter the day for many. but this tow stoog— enter the day for many. but this tow stoot m— enter the day for many. but this low cloud in the— enter the day for many. but this low cloud in the north sea is meaty— low cloud in the north sea is already rolling— low cloud in the north sea is already rolling into already rolling back into eosemt— already rolling back into eastern areas— already rolling back into eastern areas and overnight it poshes— eastern areas and overnight it poshes sooth— eastern areas and overnight it pushes south westwards, reaching as too— pushes south westwards, reaching os tor sooth— pushes south westwards, reaching as far south and— pushes south westwards, reaching as far south and west as parts of as far south and west as parts ot tost— as far south and west as parts of east wales— as far south and west as parts of east wales and— as far south and west as parts of east wales and the west soomtry— of east wales and the west soomtry .— of east wales and the west country . clearer- of east wales and the west country . clearer skies further country. clearer skies further west— country. clearer skies further west here— country. clearer skies further west here turning quite chilly. temperotores— west here turning quite chilly. temperatures dipping largely mto— temperatures dipping largely mto smgte— temperatures dipping largely into single figures in the countryside— into single figures in the countryside ,_ into single figures in the countryside , towns and cities countryside, towns and cities homhg— countryside, towns and cities honing-little _ countryside, towns and cities honing little higher. so honing up a little higher. so west— honing up a little higher. so west east— honing up a little higher. so west east split— honing up a little higher. so west east split for monday mommg. — west east split for monday morning. sunshine from the word go across western _ morning. sunshine from the word go across western parts of the wt. — go across western parts of the wt. torther— go across western parts of the uk. further east— go across western parts of the uk. further east it— go across western parts of the uk. further east it is cloudy mt— uk. further east it is cloudy mt thts— uk. further east it is cloudy and this cloud— uk. further east it is cloudy and this cloud will hang around for and this cloud will hang around tor mosh— and this cloud will hang around tor mosh ot— and this cloud will hang around for much of the— and this cloud will hang around for much of the morning, but it stowty— for much of the morning, but it stowty thts— for much of the morning, but it slowly lifts and— for much of the morning, but it slowly lifts and breaks. and by the-we— slowly lifts and breaks. and by the-we get— slowly lifts and breaks. and by the -we get-the - slowly lifts and breaks. and by the we get the afternoon the time we get to the afternoon it the time we get to the afternoon tt-tmgety— the time we get to the afternoon it - largely affect— the time we get to the afternoon it largely affect eastern it will largely affect eastern soomttes— it will largely affect eastern counties—and. it will largely affect eastern- counties_and eastern counties of england and eastern ports— counties of england and eastern pms ot— counties of england and eastern parts of scotland. _ counties of england and eastern parts of scotland. an isolated shower— parts of scotland. an isolated shower possible _ parts of scotland. an isolated shower possible northern ireland and shower possible northern ireland mt ssottmt— shower possible northern ireland mt ssottmt ,— shower possible northern ireland and scotland , but— shower possible northern ireland and scotland , but most places and scotland, but most places dry and scotland, but most places. dry—temperatures dry with sunshine. temperatures a dry with sunshine. temperatures o ttttte— dry with sunshine. temperatures o ttttte tower— dry with sunshine. temperatures a little lower compared to the weetemt— a little lower compared to the weekend ,— a little lower compared to the weekend , but— a little lower compared to the weekend , but still the weekend, but still reaching the low weekend, but still reaching the tow zes— weekend, but still reaching the low 20s across— weekend, but still reaching the low 20s across the west, a ttttte—

low 20s across the west, a little chillier— low 20s across the west, a little chillier for- low 20s across the west, a little chillier for some eastern somt— little chillier for some eastern soost where— little chillier for some eastern coast where we— little chillier for some eastern coast where we keep that cloud mt—mt- coast where we keep that cloud mt—mt repeat-i and then it's rinse and repeat. we and then it's rinse and repeat. we see— and then it's rinse and repeat. we see-stoot— and then it's rinse and repeat.| we see -cloud-back and then it's rinse and repeat.- we see -cloud-back in we see that cloud moving back in throogh— we see that cloud moving back in throogh mommy— we see that cloud moving back in through monday evening and owemtght— through monday evening and overnight, thick— through monday evening and overnight, thick enough at times for overnight, thick enough at times tor o— overnight, thick enough at times tor o ttttte— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit of— overnight, thick enough at times for a little bit of light rain or trtzzte. — for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and— for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and notice it or drizzle. and notice how it even even further or drizzle. and notice how it- even -even further west even stretches even further west as we stoot— even stretches even further west as we start tuesday morning with stoot— as we start tuesday morning with more cloud around— as we start tuesday morning with more cloud around temperatures hottmg— more cloud around temperatures hotttmg op— more cloud around temperatures hotttmg op o— more cloud around temperatures holding up a little— more cloud around temperatures holding up a little higher. but most— holding up a little higher. but meet-shes- holding up a little higher. but under skies across the under any clear skies across the far under any clear skies across the tor wag,— under any clear skies across the tor west, tt— under any clear skies across the far west, it will— under any clear skies across the far west, it will be— under any clear skies across the far west, it will be a chilly stoot— far west, it will be a chilly stoot to— far west, it will be a chilly start to tuesday- far west, it will be a chilly start to tuesday . so a grey start to tuesday. so a grey stoot— start to tuesday. so a grey stoot tor— start to tuesday. so a grey start for many— start to tuesday. so a grey start for many sunshine , though, start for many sunshine, though, for start for many sunshine, though, tor worthem— start for many sunshine, though, for northern ireland. western ssottmt— for northern ireland. western ssottmt ,— for northern ireland. western scotland , northwest england and scotland, northwest england and woes.— scotland, northwest england and woes-them— scotland, northwest england and wales. -then just— scotland, northwest england and wales. then just notice the wales. and then just notice the stoot— wales. and then just notice the stoot-hmg- wales. and then just notice the cloud hang around cloud may just hang around a ttttte— cloud may just hang around a ttttte moe— cloud may just hang around a little more tuesday, but little more on tuesday, but ewemtootty— little more on tuesday, but eventually breaking up later wetmestoy— eventually breaking up later wethestoy ,— eventually breaking up later wednesday , more in the way of wednesday, more in the way of somshme— wednesday, more in the way of somshme tor— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most sunny spells thorstoy— sunshine for most sunny spells thursday,-turning- sunshine for most sunny spells thursday, turning windier in

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topics we've been discussing totoy om— topics we've been discussing today on rishi— topics we've been discussing today on rishi sunak giving money— today on rishi sunak giving money stanford college in the money to stanford college in the whttet— money to stanford college in the united states— money to stanford college in the united states ._ money to stanford college in the united states . roy— money to stanford college in the united states . roy says. rishi united states. roy says. rishi ottemtet— united states. roy says. rishi attended stanford uni as a rothrtght— attended stanford uni as a fulbright scholar, obtained his whot— fulbright scholar, obtained his who there. — fulbright scholar, obtained his mba there. perhaps he's simply showmg— mba there. perhaps he's simply showtmg hts— mba there. perhaps he's simply showing his gratitude . dude, you showing his gratitude. dude, you do showing his gratitude. dude, you to mote— showing his gratitude. dude, you to mote o— showing his gratitude. dude, you do make a point— showing his gratitude. dude, you do make a point that is a nice thmg— do make a point that is a nice thtmg to— do make a point that is a nice thtmg to soy.— do make a point that is a nice thtmg to soy. toy— do make a point that is a nice thing to say. roy but equally he omty— thing to say. roy but equally he omty gove— thing to say. roy but equally he omty gme roo— thing to say. roy but equally he omty gme too t— thing to say. roy but equally he only gave 100 k to— thing to say. roy but equally he only gave 100 k to winchester sottege. — only gave 100 k to winchester sottege. rs— only gave 100 k to winchester sottege. rs he— only gave 100 k to winchester college. is he being stingy when it college. is he being stingy when tt soes— college. is he being stingy when tt to— college. is he being stingy when it comes to his— college. is he being stingy when it comes to his his— college. is he being stingy when it comes to his his school or am i it comes to his his school or am r mottmg— it comes to his his school or am r mottmg o— it comes to his his school or am i making a making— it comes to his his school or am i making a making a mountain out of i making a making a mountain out ot o— i making a making a mountain out ot o motehttt— i making a making a mountain out of a molehill here?— i making a making a mountain out of a molehill here? perhaps a storm— of a molehill here? perhaps a storm m— of a molehill here? perhaps a storm m o— of a molehill here? perhaps a storm in a teacup,— of a molehill here? perhaps a storm in a teacup, as toby said emtter— storm in a teacup, as toby said emtter. wow,— storm in a teacup, as toby said earlier. now, leslie— storm in a teacup, as toby said earlier. now, leslie says what the— earlier. now, leslie says what the pn— earlier. now, leslie says what the pn toes— earlier. now, leslie says what the pm does with— earlier. now, leslie says what the pm does with his own money is the pm does with his own money ts hts— the pm does with his own money is his business,— the pm does with his own money is his business, surely. yes, you— is his business, surely. yes, yoo soote— is his business, surely. yes, you could argue— is his business, surely. yes, you could argue that. you could mgoe— you could argue that. you could mgoe thot. — you could argue that. you could mgoe thot. tm— you could argue that. you could argue that. i'm just i'm just worrtet— argue that. i'm just i'm just worried whether— argue that. i'm just i'm just worried whether maybe, you know , he — worried whether maybe, you know , he gotte — worried whether maybe, you know , he gotte totes— worried whether maybe, you know , he quite likes the— worried whether maybe, you know , he quite likes the us. do you tmogthe— , he quite likes the us. do you tmogme ttsht— , he quite likes the us. do you imagine rishi might go off and live imagine rishi might go off and the-omh— imagine rishi might go off and live-again after- imagine rishi might go off and live again after he's live in the us again after he's tome— live in the us again after he's tome-rooms- live in the us again after he's done prime minister? done being the prime minister? does—totgememti does that affect his judgement heres— does that affect his judgement heree-thow. — does that affect his judgement here?-know. i- does that affect his judgement here? know. i don't here? i don't know. i don't mow.— here? i don't know. i don't know tm— here? i don't know. i don't know. i'm just— here? i don't know. i don't know. i'm just raising the goesttom— question. susan says. i believe s...p_ question. susan says. i believe somot-hts— question. susan says. i believe sunak-his wife— question. susan says. i believe sunak-his wife are- question. susan says. i believe sunak his wife are getting sunak and his wife are getting ready—wett- sunak and his wife are gettingj ready—well, there ready to go and oh well, there you— ready to go and oh well, there. yoo—amertso. you go. go and live in america. i you go. go and live in america. r-he— you go. go and live in america. r-he whtt— you go. go and live in america. i-he will-down- i think he will step down just hetore— i think he will step down just before-election- i think he will step down just before election and before the next election and prettst— before the next election and prettst-mot- before the next election and predict not stand for predict he will not stand for horttomemt— predict he will not stand for parliament-by- predict he will not stand for parliament by donating to predict he will not stand for paiamerican by donating to predict he will not stand for paiamerican university nating to predict he will not stand for paiamerican university .ating to predict he will not stand for paiamerican university . heig to predict he will not stand for paiamerican university . he hopes an american university. he hopes

to-mto— an american university. he hopes to-into american— an american university. he hopes to into american high to get into american high sostety— to get into american high society. well,— to get into american high society. well, who knows ? we'll society. well, who knows? we'll tht— society. well, who knows? we'll ttmt oot. — society. well, who knows? we'll ttmt oot. the— society. well, who knows? we'll find out. the future will tell . find out. the future will tell. perhaps— find out. the future will tell. perhaps some— find out. the future will tell. perhaps some of— find out. the future will tell. perhaps some of you think he's tomg— perhaps some of you think he's tomg o— perhaps some of you think he's tomg o very— perhaps some of you think he's tomg o very good— perhaps some of you think he's doing a very good job anyway as home— doing a very good job anyway as prime-regardless- doing a very good job anyway as prime regardless of prime minister. regardless of where—hts- prime minister. regardless of where his money. i where he spends his money. i tom-t— where he spends his money. i soomt-tote— where he spends his money. i don't-like.this- don't really like all this pottttss— don't really like all this politics anyway . don't really like all this- politics-anyway . anyway, politics of envy anyway. anyway, a politics of envy anyway. anyway, o-hts— politics of envy anyway. anyway, o-hts money— politics of envy anyway. anyway, o-hts momey ts- politics of envy anyway. anyway, a-his money is, of- politics of envy anyway. anyway, a his money is, of course a lot of his money is, of course , a lot of his money is, of course o_as_ a lot of his money is, of course —os wett- a lot of his money is, of course —os wett whol , from his wife as well, who happens— , from his wife as well, who hoppemslhe— , from his wife as well, who hoppemslhe o— , from his wife as well, who happens be a billionaire and happens to be a billionaire and an happens to be a billionaire and m hetress— happens to be a billionaire and an heiress. so— happens to be a billionaire and an heiress. so and— happens to be a billionaire and an heiress. so and on the promtset— an heiress. so and on the promtset-to- an heiress. so and on the promtset-to p| an heiress. so and on the. promised-to p not promised proposed to p not promtset— promised proposed to p not promised proposal to p tax retosttom— promised proposal to p tax reduction. chris— promised proposal to p tax reduction. chris has to say to get— reduction. chris has to say to get peopte— reduction. chris has to say to get people back_ reduction. chris has to say to get people back to work. the tax threshott— get people back to work. the tax threshold needs— get people back to work. the tax threshold needs to— get people back to work. the tax threshold needs to be increased to zo— threshold needs to be increased to 20 tost— threshold needs to be increased to 20 ka2p reduction is futile. yesr_ to 20 ka2p reduction is futile. tes t— to 20 ka2p reduction is futile. tes t agree— to 20 ka2p reduction is futile. yes, i agree with— to 20 ka2p reduction is futile. yes, i agree with you. people meet— yes, i agree with you. people meet to— yes, i agree with you. people meet to he— yes, i agree with you. people need to be able— yes, i agree with you. people need to be able to keep more of ther— need to be able to keep more of thetr money— need to be able to keep more of thetr momey ot— need to be able to keep more of their money at the— need to be able to keep more of their money at the lower end in otter— their money at the lower end in orter to— their money at the lower end in orter to get— their money at the lower end in order to get people back into wort. — order to get people back into wort. rt— order to get people back into wort. rt stmpty— order to get people back into work. it simply needs to pay if hehettts— work. it simply needs to pay if hemettts me— work. it simply needs to pay if benefits are paying, you hostsotty— benefits are paying, you basically the _ benefits are paying, you basically the same as what you woott— basically the same as what you woott tt— basically the same as what you woott tt yoo— basically the same as what you would if you working, then would if you were working, then no, would if you were working, then tt— would if you were working, then tt toesm-t— would if you were working, then no, it doesn't-up,- would if you were working, then no, it doesn't up, does it? no, it doesn't add up, does it? rteose— no, it doesn't add up, does it? theme to— no, it doesn't add up, does it? please do keep— no, it doesn't add up, does it? please do keep your views coming no, it doesn't add up, does it? please subscribe'our views coming no, it doesn't add up, does it? please subscribe'our vieyoutubeig in and subscribe to our youtube shmmet— in and subscribe to our youtube channel. _twitter. . in and subscribe to our youtube chann at _twitter. . in and subscribe to our youtube chann at news. twitter. in and subscribe to our youtube chann at news. buttwitter. in and subscribe to our youtube chann at news. but first, r. we're at gb news. but first, tts— we're at gb news. but first, tt-s teem— we're at gb news. but first, it's been reported that holly wtttooghty— it's been reported that holly wtttooghhy ts— it's been reported that holly willoughby is preparing an homest— willoughby is preparing an honest mt— willoughby is preparing an honest and personal statement to stores— honest and personal statement to ottress the— honest and personal statement to address the scandal surrounding

tht— address the scandal surrounding phil schofield— address the scandal surrounding phil schofield when she returns to present— phil schofield when she returns to present itv's— phil schofield when she returns to present itv's this morning tomorrow . she— to present itv's this morning tomorrow . she was on holiday tomorrow. she was on holiday tost— tomorrow. she was on holiday tost week— tomorrow. she was on holiday last week when— tomorrow. she was on holiday last week when schofield was gtwmg — last week when schofield was gtwmg hts— last week when schofield was giving his interview, saying that— giving his interview, saying that hts— giving his interview, saying that his career— giving his interview, saying that his career was over tottowmg— that his career was over following scandal over an following a scandal over an mm— following a scandal over an mom-o— following a scandal over an affair-a younger- following a scandal over an affair a younger male affair with a younger male sotteogoe— affair with a younger male sotteogoe .— affair with a younger male colleague , of— affair with a younger male colleague , of course. joining colleague, of course. so joining me-ts— colleague, of course. so joining me-ts metho— colleague, of course. so joining me is media commentator me now is media commentator wtget— me now is media commentator wtget howtey— me now is media commentator wtget howtey .— me now is media commentator nigel hawley . thank you very nigel hawley. thank you very mosh— nigel hawley. thank you very much indeed,— nigel hawley. thank you very much indeed, nigel. well, now there— much indeed, nigel. well, now there was— much indeed, nigel. well, now there o— much indeed, nigel. well, now there was a lot— much indeed, nigel. well, now there was a lot of— much indeed, nigel. well, now there was a lot of speculation , there was a lot of speculation, wsmt— there was a lot of speculation, wsmt nae,— there was a lot of speculation, wasn't there, about whether hotty— wasn't there, about whether holly willoughby would ever reomt— holly willoughby would ever reomt to— holly willoughby would ever return to this— holly willoughby would ever return to this morning's sofa. she-s— return to this morning's sofa. she-s gomg— return to this morning's sofa. she-s gomg to— return to this morning's sofa. she's going to what do you expest— she's going to what do you eopest her— she's going to what do you expect her to— she's going to what do you expect her to say in this statement— expect her to say in this statement? - expect her to say in this statement ? “oio?“ flooricc statement? yeah, well, this week, the afternoon, emily, the focus will go away from phillip schofield. i think a lot of people will be quite relieved by that and i'm sure he will be relieved by that . it's going to relieved by that. it's going to spread . now back onto the spread. now back onto the program to holly willoughby and to the executives of itv are being grilled by mps this week. in her statement , being grilled by mps this week. in her statement, i being grilled by mps this week. in her statement , i expect her

in her statement, i expect her to address the itv family and how it's been affected by all this. i expect her to deny that there's anything toxic about the program and i expect her to reach out to philip schofield and say that she feels let down, but that she feels she doesn't like to see him in his current state. nigel reports say this is going— state. nigel reports say this is gomg to— state. nigel reports say this is gomg to he— state. nigel reports say this is gomg to he on— nigel reports say this is going to be an honest statement. do going to be an honest statement. to yoo— going to be an honest statement. to yoo thmt— going to be an honest statement. do you think this— going to be an honest statement. do you think this honest one oote— do you think this honest one oote wo— do you think this honest one oote to, r— do you think this honest one out? no, i don't— do you think this honest one out? no, i don't think she would say out? no, i don't think she would soy that.— out? no, i don't think she would soy that. r— out? no, i don't think she would say that. i don't— out? no, i don't think she would say that. i don't think anyone woott— say that. i don't think anyone woott soy,— say that. i don't think anyone woott soy, oh— say that. i don't think anyone would say, oh, yes, you know, r-m — would say, oh, yes, you know, rm gomg— would say, oh, yes, you know, rm gomg to— would say, oh, yes, you know, rm gomg to he— would say, oh, yes, you know, i'm going to be truthful this ttme— i'm going to be truthful this time statement.— i'm going to be truthful this time statement. i'm going to mote— time statement. i'm going to mote m— time statement. i'm going to make an honest— time statement. i'm going to make an honest statement . do you make an honest statement. do you thmt— make an honest statement. do you thmt peopte— make an honest statement. do you think people will— make an honest statement. do you think people will believe that it think people will believe that tt ts— think people will believe that tt ts m— think people will believe that it is an honest— think people will believe that it is an honest statement? of soorse-smt— it is an honest statement? of course,-said she- it is an honest statement? of course, said she didn't know course, she said she didn't know moot— course, she said she didn't know moot tht— course, she said she didn't know about phil schofield and this mt— about phil schofield and this mt thts— about phil schofield and this and this relationship and thongs.— and this relationship and thmgs. amt— and this relationship and things. and do you think people will things. and do you think people wttt hettewe— things. and do you think people will believe a— things. and do you think people will believe a word she says ? will believe a word she says? i threw— will believe a word she says? i thmt that-s— will believe a word she says? i think that's hard— will believe a word she says? i think that's hard to— will believe a word she says? i think that's hard to say. - will believe a word she says? i think that's hard to say. i- think that's hard to say. i mean, apparently she has been preparing this. she has written it herself. these are her words

. now, whether kyiv and lawyers let her go out, whether their publicists let it go out as she wants it to go out. but i would imagine that there are quite a few brains and quite a few people involved in her personal statement , people involved in her personal statement, and i would think it would be well edited , well would be well edited, well honed. she's had two weeks to prepare it. she's a consummate tv professional, national, and i'm sure she will deliver it in a very honest way. and what do you make, nigel, lastly of phil schofield himself seems to be through his interviews presenting himself as as one of the victims and all this talking about his mental health and feeling suicidal . et cetera. et feeling suicidal. et cetera. et setere— feeling suicidal. et cetera. et setero. the— feeling suicidal. et cetera. et cetera. the cynic— feeling suicidal. et cetera. et cetera. the cynic in- feeling suicidal. et cetera. et cetera. the cynic in me- �*"oi;oi;c “g c ozric et cetera. et cetera. the cynic in me would thmt— cetera. the cynic in me would thmt thts— cetera. the cynic in me would thmt thts ts— cetera. the cynic in me would think this is a— cetera. the cynic in me would think this is a tactic to attempt— think this is a tactic to attempt to— think this is a tactic to attempt to move the media off htm— attempt to move the media off htm so— attempt to move the media off htm so that— attempt to move the media off him so that they— attempt to move the media off him so that they to act. you mow— him so that they to act. you know .— him so that they to act. you know , essentially accusing the know, essentially accusing the metro— know, essentially accusing the metro m— know, essentially accusing the metro m ome— know, essentially accusing the media in one way— know, essentially accusing the media in one way or another of hemg— media in one way or another of temg tmmorot— media in one way or another of being immoral and to attacking . being immoral and to attacking. do being immoral and to attacking. too yoo— being immoral and to attacking. po yoo thmt— being immoral and to attacking. do you think that's fair? has he

got some— do you think that's fair? has he got tooth— do you think that's fair? has he got some truth to— do you think that's fair? has he got some truth to that? i think howhg— got some truth to that? i think howmg teem— got some truth to that? i think having been in— got some truth to that? i think having been in the media for 30 or so— having been in the media for 30 or so yers— having been in the media for 30 or so yes yeah— having been in the media for 30 or 35 years, yeah, the media is tmmorot— or 35 years, yeah, the media is tmmorot hot— or 35 years, yeah, the media is immoral, but the— or 35 years, yeah, the media is immoral, but the media reports is immoral, but the media reports ts o— immoral, but the media reports ts o messemerg— immoral, but the media reports is a messenger phillip schofield like is a messenger phillip schofield the o— is a messenger phillip schofield the o tot— is a messenger phillip schofield the o tot ot— is a messenger phillip schofield like a lot of people who have teem— like a lot of people who have been involved _ like a lot of people who have been involved in— like a lot of people who have been involved in in bad, bad thmgs— been involved in in bad, bad thtmgs so— been involved in in bad, bad things can present themselves as a things can present themselves as o wsttm. — things can present themselves as owsttm. ots— things can present themselves as owsttm. to o— things can present themselves as a victim. it's a well— things can present themselves as a victim. c a victim. it's a well known way. he also has a media advice. he's got advisors and crisis management experts helping him . management experts helping him. so there was a lot of craft there . it was clear the guy is there. it was clear the guy is struggling , suffering. you can't struggling, suffering. you can't fake how bad he looked. you can't fake that. and i think it's good that the focus is off him. i think, yes , he has had him. i think, yes, he has had you know, he's lost his career, i think 16 days his career went from hero to zero. and it's a big shock to the system. he hasn't done anything illegal as far as we know . so hasn't done anything illegal as far as we know. so i think what he needs to do is keep his head down, keep away from putting statements out and speaking and

just try to rebuild his life away from things and try to come back. away from things and try to come back . i think away from things and try to come back. i think the media will leave him alone because the story is going to be this week. holly willoughby, tomorrow and itv executives tuesday, wednesday. and i think that's quite enough meat for the show. meat street , to be lapping up meat street, to be lapping up for the next few days. the story is not going away, but it's not going to be about phillip schofield. it's going to be about what's happening inside this . what did the this morning. what did the executives ? what's holly executives know? what's holly willoughby going say ? so willoughby going to say? so you've number 3 or days of you've got number 3 or 4 days of this, least. yes and every this, at least. yes and every man this, at least. yes and every mt— this, at least. yes and every man and their— this, at least. yes and every man and their dog- 4:5 and every man and their dog have man and their dog will have a hot tote— man and their dog will have a hot take-whatever- hot take on whatever holly's stotememt— hot take on whatever holly's statement-and— hot take on whatever holly's statement and whether it's statement is and whether it's whether—mt- whether it's honest and transparent— whether it's honest and transparent ,- whether it's honest and transparent , as says whether it's honest and transparent , as-says will transparent, as she says it will be. transparent, as she says it will toe-yoo— transparent, as she says it will toe-yoo very— transparent, as she says it will be.-you very much- transparent, as she says it will be. you very much indeed, transparent, as she says it will be. pauleyu very much indeed, transparent, as she says it will be. pauleyu very media ndeed, nigel pauley there, media commentator— nigel pauley there, media commentator ,_ nigel pauley there, media commentator , bringing us his hot commentator, bringing us his hot tote— commentator, bringing us his hot tote om— commentator, bringing us his hot tote oh whot-s— commentator, bringing us his hot take on what's been going on at thts— take on what's been going on at thts-hotty— take on what's been going on at this holly willoughby this morning. holly willoughby will—tomorrow. this morning. holly willoughby will—tomorrow .l this morning. holly willoughby. will—tomorrow . so will be on the sofa tomorrow. so i will be on the sofa tomorrow. so r-thot— will be on the sofa tomorrow. so r-thot rhttttp- i must add that phillip schofield— i must add that phillip schofield has any i must add that phillip- schofield has-any and all schofield has denied any and all ottegottoms— schofield has denied any and all ottegottohs ot— schofield has denied any and all allegations of bullying in his mterwew— allegations of bullying in his interview with— allegations of bullying in his interview with amol rajan, he sott— interview with amol rajan, he soot there-s— interview with amol rajan, he said there's no— interview with amol rajan, he said there's no toxicity, there-s— said there's no toxicity,- there's—there's said there's no toxicity,- there's_there's no there's no bullying, there's no discrimination— there's no bullying, there's no discrimination .— there's no bullying, there's no discrimination . even this discrimination. even at this

mommg— discrimination. even at this mormtmg .— discrimination. even at this morning , you're watching and morning, you're watching and ttstemmg— morning, you're watching and ttstehmg to— morning, you're watching and listening to gb— morning, you're watching and listening to gb news with listening to gb news sunday with me, listening to gb news sunday with tmtty— listening to gb news sunday with tmtty corvet— listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carvel. we've got lotsi more coming up on today's show. oesptte— more coming up on today's show. despite-suspected— despite 31 suspected animal rtsthg— despite 31 suspected animal rising activists— despite 31 suspected animal rising activists being arrested for rising activists being arrested tor ttsroptmg— rising activists being arrested for disrupting the epsom derby yestertoy— for disrupting the epsom derby yestertoy .— for disrupting the epsom derby yestertoy , the — for disrupting the epsom derby yesterday , the group justify yesterday, the group justify theor— yesterday, the group justify their actions— yesterday, the group justify their actions as— yesterday, the group justify their actions as necessary for rotsmg— their actions as necessary for raising awareness of the cruelty of raising awareness of the cruelty ot horse— raising awareness of the cruelty of horse racing— raising awareness of the cruelty of horse racing .— raising awareness of the cruelty of horse racing . are the public of horse racing. are the public fed of horse racing. are the public tet op— of horse racing. are the public tet op wtth— of horse racing. are the public fed up with their— of horse racing. are the public fed up with their horsing oroomte— fed up with their horsing around? but— fed up with their horsing around? but first, let's get the wtth— around? but first, let's get the wtth toy— around? but first, let's get the news with ray addison . news with ray addison. c $7155 news with ray addison. it's 233 the— news with ray addison. it's 233 now. the immigration minister has told gb news it's wrong for migrants to demand better hotel accommodation while waiting for their asylum claims to be processed . that's after processed. that's after a protest was sparked in london by migrants being asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said that sharing a hotel rooms is necessary to get value for taxpayers . money let me just taxpayers. money let me just move on now to our next story

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mornings on gb news. the people's channel, britain's news channel. people's channel, britain's news channel . will welcome back. channel. will welcome back. woo-re— channel. will welcome back. you're watching— channel. will welcome back. you're watching and- f �*oooo�* cc welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb you're watching and listening to so wews— you're watching and listening to gb news sunday— you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily somer— gb news sunday with me, emily comer om— gb news sunday with me, emily comer oh yoor— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv,— gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv, online and ttgttot— carver on your tv, online and ttgttot rotto. — carver on your tv, online and digital radio. so— carver on your tv, online and digital radio. so yesterday, the pose— digital radio. so yesterday, the police arrested— digital radio. so yesterday, the police arrested 31— digital radio. so yesterday, the police arrested 31 suspected amtmot— police arrested 31 suspected animal rising— police arrested 31 suspected animal rising activists at the tpsom — animal rising activists at the tpsom perhy— animal rising activists at the epsom derby. one protester even ran epsom derby. one protester even opto— epsom derby. one protester even onto the— epsom derby. one protester even ran onto the track,— epsom derby. one protester even ran onto the track, but the race wept— ran onto the track, but the race wemt oheot— ran onto the track, but the race went ahead as— ran onto the track, but the race went ahead as planned. british horse— went ahead as planned. british horse rosmg— went ahead as planned. british horse racing authority chief eeote — horse racing authority chief executive julie _ horse racing authority chief executive julie harrington somtemmet— executive julie harrington condemned the action as reckless and condemned the action as reckless mt tmgeroos— condemned the action as reckless and dangerous. but— condemned the action as reckless and dangerous. but the animal rtghts— and dangerous. but the animal rtghts groops— and dangerous. but the animal rtghts groops soy— and dangerous. but the animal rights groups say they are doing whot-s— rights groups say they are doing what's necessary— rights groups say they are doing what's necessary to raise awareness of— what's necessary to raise awareness of the cruelty of the sport. — awareness of the cruelty of the spot so — awareness of the cruelty of the spot so rotmtmg—

awareness of the cruelty of the sport. so joining me now is broadcaster— sport. so joining me now is broadcaster and— sport. so joining me now is broadcaster and journalist lydia htstop— broadcaster and journalist lydia htstop mt— broadcaster and journalist lydia hislop and spokesperson for mtmot— hislop and spokesperson for animal rising,— hislop and spokesperson for animal rising, louisa hill—wood . wow,— animal rising, louisa hill—wood . wow, ott— animal rising, louisa hill—wood . how, to tost— animal rising, louisa hill—wood . now, i'll just say— animal rising, louisa hill—wood . now, i'll just say before we stoot— . now, i'll just say before we stort thot— . now, i'll just say before we stort thot .— . now, i'll just say before we stort thot , r— . now, i'll just say before we start that , i think this is an start that, i think this is an msretthty— start that, i think this is an incredibly important debate to howe— incredibly important debate to howe oh— incredibly important debate to howe oh thts— incredibly important debate to have on this, because i know momy— have on this, because i know momy ot— have on this, because i know momy ot oor— have on this, because i know many of our viewers care deeply mt— many of our viewers care deeply and passionately— many of our viewers care deeply and passionately about animal rtghts— and passionately about animal rtghts hot— and passionately about animal rights, but they're also concerned _ rights, but they're also concerned ,_ rights, but they're also concerned , learned about this concerned, learned about this rose— concerned, learned about this m— concerned, learned about this rise in direct— concerned, learned about this rise in direct action. louisa yestertoy— rise in direct action. louisa yestertoy yoo— rise in direct action. louisa yesterday you were at the epsom petty— yesterday you were at the epsom oerhy .— yesterday you were at the epsom oerhy , hot— yesterday you were at the epsom perty , hot yoo— yesterday you were at the epsom derby , but you were actually out derby, but you were actually out stte — derby, but you were actually out stte m— derby, but you were actually out stte m the — derby, but you were actually out side in the designated protest area, and that— side in the designated protest area, and that had already been ogreet— area, and that had already been ogreet wtth— area, and that had already been agreed with the— area, and that had already been agreed with the jockey club, hoth-t— agreed with the jockey club, hotm-t rte— agreed with the jockey club, hadn't it? right. gift agreed with the jockey club, hadn't it? right. gilt? hadn't it? right. so, yes, i was at hadn't it? right. so, yes, i was ot the— hadn't it? right. so, yes, i was at the outside protest. thank you for having me, by the way. oh, worries all. thank you oh, no worries at all. thank you for oh, no worries at all. thank you tor—yestertoy.- oh, no worries at all. thank you. for—yesterday, what for coming. and yesterday, what we is two main we wanted to do is two main things. was to things. firstly, was to hopefully stop the race because we wanted to protect animals. i care deeply about animals. and as you just said, i'm sure- r?" and as you just said, i'm sure many of as you just said, i'm sure many ot-wewers— as you just said, i'm sure many of-viewers-well. . as you just said, i'm sure many. of-viewers-well. and of your viewers do as well. and sesmoty— of your viewers do as well. and sesmoty .— of your viewers do as well. and sesmoty . we— of your viewers do as well. and secondly , we wanted to start secondly, we wanted to start this wider conversation about what animals in horse

what happens to animals in horse racing. you know, the beautiful horses— racing. you know, the beautiful hose thot— racing. you know, the beautiful horses that were— ”ec “3 you know, the beautiful horses that were running yestertoy— horses that were running yestertoy .— horses that were running yesterday . we- horses that were running yesterday . we saw a horse yesterday. we saw a horse rommg— yesterday. we saw a horse running lion— yesterday. we saw a horse running lion who on friday did not wmt— running lion who on friday did not wont to— running lion who on friday did not want to get— running lion who on friday did not want to get into . “ not want to get into. i mean, ot— not want to get into. i mean, ot the— not want to get into. i mean, none of the horses wanted to get into the starting gate. but this horse actually— into the starting gate. but this horse actually kicked- “rig ig but this horse actually kicked their way out horse actually kicked their way oot . — horse actually kicked their way oot . s..— horse actually kicked their way oot . so. yeoh— horse actually kicked their way out . so, yeah, we— horse actually kicked their way out . groin?" i horse actually kicked their way out. i out. so, yeah, we wanted to start this this wider conversation treat conversation about how we treat animals , because you clearly animals, because you clearly feel passionately that you feel very passionately that you did want this race to did not want this race to go ahead because believe horses ahead because you believe horses aren't in an appropriate aren't treated in an appropriate way well , in a good aren't treated in an appropriate way well, in a good enough way in a well, in a good enough way. , that it's not way. essentially, that it's not morot— way. essentially, that it's not morot-so— way. essentially, that it's not morot-so .— way. essentially, that it's not moral-so . but- essentially, that it's not moral so . but wasn't there moral to do so. but wasn't there otreoty— moral to do so. but wasn't there otreoty m— moral to do so. but wasn't there already an injunction in place ogomst— already an injunction in place ogotmst p,— already an injunction in place against it, against disruptive hehowoor— against it, against disruptive behaviour and— against it, against disruptive behaviour and animal rising essemttotty— behaviour and animal rising essentially breached that thromsttom— essentially breached that injunction for— essentially breached that injunction for people ? and injunction for people? and thot-s— injunction for people? and that's where— injunction for people? and that's where people start to mom,— that's where people start to mom wett— that's where people start to mom wett .— that's where people start to think, well, hang on a bit, you are think, well, hang on a bit, you gomg— think, well, hang on a bit, you are going against— think, well, hang on a bit, you are going against the law, you are going against the law, you hreotmg— are going against the law, you are breaking into— are going against the law, you are breaking into criminal osttwty— are breaking into criminal activity and— are breaking into criminal activity and that is a step too tor. — activity and that is a step too too wet.— activity and that is a step too far. well, let's— activity and that is a step too far. well, let's be- activity and that is a step too far. i activity and that is a step too far. well, let's be clear here. there's two main things to touch on here, that an injunction is essentially a law that has been bought someone with a lot of bought by someone with a lot of money. it bypasses people's

money. and it bypasses people's democratic right to a fair trial. secondly, we're trial. and secondly, we're talking about people who wanted to fence to protect an to jump a fence to protect an animal. if i saw an animal on another fence was another side of a fence who was being would jump the being harmed, i would jump the fence, wouldn't you? well well, lydia , in terms of what- �*"oi;“ot.oi; i“ c ooioc7 flooricc well, lydia , in terms of what happened lydia, in terms of what happened yestertoy,— lydia, in terms of what happened yestertoy, mow— lydia, in terms of what happened yesterday, now, speaking to representatives— yesterday, now, speaking to representatives of the horse rosmg— representatives of the horse racing community, they will otwoys— racing community, they will otwoys soy— racing community, they will always say how— racing community, they will always say how much they care for always say how much they care tor the— always say how much they care for the animals— always say how much they care for the animals and how this tht— for the animals and how this the ot— for the animals and how this kind of disruption, while it may be well—meaning— kind of disruption, while it may be well—meaning by some people who— be well—meaning by some people who hetomg— be well—meaning by some people who hetomg to— be well—meaning by some people who belong to this— be well—meaning by some people who belong to this group, can ostootty— who belong to this group, can ostootty he— who belong to this group, can actually be more— who belong to this group, can actually be more risky when it to— actually be more risky when it to the— actually be more risky when it comes to the horses lives. and of course, the _ comes to the horses lives. and of course, the jockeys. well, tts— of course, the jockeys. well, tt-s sertomty— of course, the jockeys. well, it's certainly risky yesterday hsose— it's certainly risky yesterday because the _ it's certainly risky yesterday because the protests , ben because the protests, ben wewmm— because the protests, ben newman, who _ because the protests, ben newman, who made his way onto the soorse— newman, who made his way onto the tot— newman, who made his way onto the course, did so— newman, who made his way onto the course, did so after the hot— the course, did so after the race had started- the course, did so after the race had started and animal ttstmg— race had started and animal ttstmg hot— race had started and animal rising had said— race had started and animal rising had said consistently, mt— rising had said consistently, mt r— rising had said consistently, mt r goote— rising had said consistently, and i quote them, that it was an ohsotote— and i quote them, that it was an ohsotote ret— and i quote them, that it was an absolute red line— and i quote them, that it was an absolute red line for them, that they— absolute red line for them, that they woott— absolute red line for them, that they would start— absolute red line for them, that they would start to infiltrate they would start to infiltrate the host— they would start to infiltrate the track once _ they would start to infiltrate the track once the race had hegom. — the track once the race had tegom. omt— the track once the race had begun. and this- the track once the race had begun. and this is- the track once the race had begun. “oi the track once the race had begun. '“oi the track once the race had begun. ' i troic begun. and this is a typical of the misleading and contradict messages that animal rising are

putting out at the start of the week , nathan mcgovern, one of week, nathan mcgovern, one of their members on monday, said that they had welfare that they had no welfare concerns about horse racing, and yet to target yet they continued to target horse racing. they mentioned theor— horse racing. they mentioned thetr ret— horse racing. they mentioned their red lines— horse racing. they mentioned their red lines about- ”ec “rig they mentioned their red lines about not infiltrating— their red lines about not infiltrating the track, but they woott— infiltrating the track, but they would-about— infiltrating the track, but they would about putting their would talk about putting their homes— would talk about putting their hottes m— would talk about putting their bodies in the— would talk about putting their bodies in the way of in order to prevent— bodies in the way of in order to prevent horm— bodies in the way of in order to prevent harm coming to horses , prevent harm coming to horses, where— prevent harm coming to horses, where actually— prevent harm coming to horses, where actually they did the oppostte— where actually they did the oppostte ot— where actually they did the opposite of that. “oino opposite of that. they put themselves onto the track, which increased , which made it a risk increased, which made it a risk for those horses on the track, made a risk for the jockeys and also the people who were having to make sure that the track was clear in order to be able to take ben newman off the track. they put themselves they had to put themselves onto the—the — they had to put themselves onto the—the rose- they had to put themselves onto the—live race had- the track while live race had stortet.— the track while live race had started. .then _ the track while live race had started. then wider started. and then the wider conversation _ started. and then the wider conversation that refers conversation that louisa refers to moot— conversation that louisa refers to about british— conversation that louisa refers to about british people's relationship— to about british people's relationship with animals. cit“ relationship with animals. on toesooy— relationship with animals. on toestoy here— relationship with animals. on tuesday here on— relationship with animals. on tuesday here on gb- relationship with animals. cit“ i “oiioi; “tit“ cit \o relationship with animals. on tuesday here on gb news nathan mcgovern again was speaking to nigel farage and he said that animal rising, it's their point of view that people, people watching at home at the moment shouldn't have dogs and cats.

they have pets in any they shouldn't have pets in any kind of and yet the kind of way. and yet the following day, another member of animal rising said that they have a dog and a cat. i think louisa has spoken about louisa herself has spoken about growing a dog, and growing up alongside a dog, and it's these misleading and contradictory messages. if we're going to have a conversation about the british public's relationship with animals, it's beholden on animal rights. and to be consistent with themselves. and it's also beholden on them not to be misleading in what they say to the public. well, that's a very good— the public. well, that's a very goot pomt. — the public. well, that's a very good point. people— t. well, that's a very good point. people will look up amtmot— good point. people will look up amtmot ttstmg— good point. people will look up animal rising and perhaps be a ttttte—rs— animal rising and perhaps be a little_ is this- animal rising and perhaps be a little—is this all. little bit confused. is this all moot— little bit confused. is this all ohoot horse— little bit confused. is this all about horse racing or is it moot— about horse racing or is it ohoot o— about horse racing or is it about a wider— about horse racing or is it about a wider agenda where you tom-t— about a wider agenda where you tom-t eem— about a wider agenda where you don't even believe— about a wider agenda where you don't even believe in people howmg— don't even believe in people howmg pets— don't even believe in people howmg pets e— don't even believe in people having pets ? because that's having pets? because that's somethmg— having pets? because that's something that— having pets? because that's something that the vast , vast something that the vast, vast morortty— something that the vast, vast morortty ot— something that the vast, vast morortty ot the — something that the vast, vast majority of the british public who— majority of the british public who towe— majority of the british public who love having— majority of the british public who love having pets and believe they-re— who love having pets and believe they're fantastic— who love having pets and believe they're fantastic owners for theor— they're fantastic owners for thetr togs— they're fantastic owners for their dogs, cats,- they're fantastic owners for their dogs, cats, whatever else, you— their dogs, cats, whatever else, yoo mow, — their dogs, cats, whatever else, yoo mow, they— their dogs, cats, whatever else, you know, they wouldn't like to hem— you know, they wouldn't like to hem thos— you know, they wouldn't like to hem thot, tm— you know, they wouldn't like to hear that, i'm sure— you know, they wouldn't like to hear that, i'm sure coming back to tytto-s— hear that, i'm sure coming back to tytto-s ttrst— hear that, i'm sure coming back to lydia's first point, my understanding from the videos hot— understanding from the videos mm o— understanding from the videos mm o ow— understanding from the videos that i saw, what— understanding from the videos that i saw, what happened yestertoy,— that i saw, what happened yesterday, there were a number

of yesterday, there were a number or peopte— yesterday, there were a number of people attempting to get onto the-heroe— of people attempting to get onto the - before the _ of people attempting to get onto the-before the race- the track before the race stortet— the track before the race stortet . — the track before the race started . the- the track before the race started . toi; the track before the race started. t the track before the race- started . the police knew about started. the police knew about this security , security, that this security, security, that security about this before security knew about this before the started , and they the race started, and they failed to stop the race. they let it run anyway. and when why shoott — let it run anyway. and when why shoott they— let it run anyway. and when why should they have— c i“ and when why should they have stopped the race? because— should they have stopped the race? because when- should they have stopped the race? t i“ race? because when someone decides to take it upon themselves to disrupt something that has been planned for months, that the jockey club has been conversations with and been in conversations with and discussions with animal rights, i'd like to finish what i was saying. please. i'd like to finish what i was saying. please . so when he ran saying. please. so when he ran opto— saying. please. so when he ran onto the— saying. please. so when he ran onto the track,— saying. please. so when he ran onto the track, as— saying. please. so when he ran onto the track, as i— “rig please. so when he ran onto the track, as i said, pottse— onto the track, as i said, pottse mt— onto the track, as i said, police and security were aware peopte—to- police and security were aware peopte—to get- police and security were aware people to get over police and security were aware peo fence to get over police and security were aware peo fence before to get over police and security were aware peofence before ttrace over the fence before the race stortet.— the fence before the race started. _him . the fence before the racei started.-him to the fence before the race- started.-him to the started. they took him to the shoe— started. they took him to the stte mt— started. they took him to the stte mt o— started. they took him to the side and a couple of police otttsers— side and a couple of police officers-sat- side and a couple of police officers-sat with- side and a couple of police officers sat with him and officers were sat with him and the rose— officers were sat with him and the rm— officers were sat with him and the race ran straight past him. amt— the race ran straight past him. amt the— the race ran straight past him. and the british— the race ran straight past him. and the british horseracing aothortty— and the british horseracing aothortty .— and the british horseracing authority . they contravened authority. they contravened theor— authority. they contravened them-ootes— authority. they contravened their- rules ,_ authority. they contravened their rules , their own their own rules, their own gottetthes— their own rules, their own guidelines that they would stop the rose— guidelines that they would stop the tt— guidelines that they would stop the race if anyone— guidelines that they would stop the race if anyone was on the tost— the race if anyone was on the trost .— the race if anyone was on the trost . veoh— the race if anyone was on the track . yeah, it— the race if anyone was on the track . yeah, it is— the race if anyone was on the track . yeah, it is correct. and track. yeah, it is correct. and sommg— track. yeah, it is correct. and somtmg host— track. yeah, it is correct. and coming back to— track. yeah, it is correct. and coming back to your second point moot— coming back to your second point moot-— coming back to your second point moot- yoo— coming back to your second point about-, you know,- coming back to your second point about-, you know, as- coming back to your second point about , you know, as was about pets, you know, as i was soyhg— about pets, you know, as i was an... r— about pets, you know, as i was soymg, r sorry,— about pets, you know, as i was saying, i sorry, not— about pets, you know, as i was saying, i sorry, not today, but tost— saying, i sorry, not today, but tost ttme— saying, i sorry, not today, but tost ttme r— saying, i sorry, not today, but last time i was— saying, i sorry, not today, but last time i was on, i did grow up last time i was on, i did grow op otomgstte— last time i was on, i did grow op otomgstte o— last time i was on, i did grow up alongside a dog. know

up alongside a dog. and i know momy— up alongside a dog. and i know momy-memos— up alongside a dog. and i know momy-memos .- up alongside a dog. and i know many-friends , you- up alongside a dog. and i know many friends , you know, up alongside a dog. and i know many of friends , you know, up alongside a dog. and i know many of your riends , you know, up alongside a dog. and i know many of your viewers you know, up alongside a dog. and i know many of your viewers willknow, up alongside a dog. and i know many of your viewers will have mtmots— many of your viewers will have mtmots-home- many of your viewers will have animals home who they animals in their home who they towe— animals in their home who they towe mt— animals in their home who they love and -treat_ animals in their home who they love and -treat like - animals in their home who they love and treat like family. love and they treat like family. amt— love and they treat like family. amt-reotty— love and they treat like family. and really important. love and they treat like family. and a really important. love and they treat like family. and a realbeautifulint. love and they treat like family. and a realbeautiful and that's a really beautiful and posttwe— that's a really beautiful and positive relationship. know, that's a really beautiful and poshave relationship. know, that's a really beautiful and poshave shelters hip. know, that's a really beautiful and poshave shelters that know, that's a really beautiful and poshave shelters that are know, we have shelters that are overflowing _ we have shelters that are overflowing with animals and tetmttety— overflowing with animals and tettmttety tt— overflowing with animals and definitely if you _ overflowing with animals and definitely if you adopt definitely if you can adopt one, r-m — definitely if you can adopt one, r-m tototty— definitely if you can adopt one, r-m tototty ott— definitely if you can adopt one, i'm totally all for— definitely if you can adopt one, i'm totally all for it. but how we treot— i'm totally all for it. but how we treat cats— i'm totally all for it. but how we treat cats and— i'm totally all for it. but how we treat cats and dogs is not how— we treat cats and dogs is not how-trem— we treat cats and dogs is not how-treat horses- we treat cats and dogs is not how-treat horses .- we treat cats and dogs is not how treat horses . those who how we treat horses. those who are how we treat horses. those who torset — how we treat horses. those who torset to— how we treat horses. those who are forced to run— how we treat horses. those who are forced to run across a across a track— are forced to run across a across a track being whipped wtth— across a track being whipped wtth o— across a track being whipped with a metal— across a track being whipped with a metal bit— across a track being whipped with a metal bit in their mouth oset— with a metal bit in their mouth oset to— with a metal bit in their mouth used to control— with a metal bit in their mouth used to control their whole hoty. —the - used to control their whole body. _the of body. i mean, in the month of may— body. i mean, in the month of hoy otome— body. i mean, in the month of hoy otome zo— body. i mean, in the month of may alone, 20 horses killed may alone, 20 horses were killed in may alone, 20 horses were killed m hrtttsh— may alone, 20 horses were killed in british horse— may alone, 20 horses were killed in british horse racing. a horse toes— in british horse racing. a horse ttes every— in british horse racing. a horse dies every other— in british horse racing. a horse dies every other day on british trosts— dies every other day on british trosts .— dies every other day on british race tracks . and— dies every other day on british race tracks . and your response race tracks. and your response to mm — race tracks. and your response to that? because— race tracks. and your response to that? because we- race tracks. and your response to that? t to that? because we have, unfortunately seen deaths of horses during horse racing . and horses during horse racing. and of course , protests have of course, protests have actually led to changes within the industry in terms of the jump the industry in terms of the jump height, in terms of other things, i'm not an expert, but whipping . et cetera. et cetera. whipping. et cetera. et cetera. i don't think it's protest that's led to that. what has led to i think an to that? well, i think it's an mtostry,— to that? well, i think it's an industry,-that- industry, a sport that constantly- industry, a sport that constantly looks itself. industry, a sport that- constantly looks-itself. it constantly looks at itself. it hos— constantly looks at itself. it hos wets— constantly looks at itself. it has vets that— constantly looks at itself. it

has vets that that- constantly looks at itself. it has vets that that work work with it . it analyses what with it. it analyses what happens on the track and what happens on the track and what happensin happens on the track and what happens in training. and as a result of more money- i“ “ “rig and as a result of more money and mseoset— result of more money and increased advances in veterinary treotmemt— increased advances in veterinary treotmemt mt— increased advances in veterinary treatment and in— increased advances in veterinary treatment and in science . it's treatment and in science. it's memt— treatment and in science. it's meomt thot— treatment and in science. it's meant that in— treatment and in science. it's meant that in terms of fatalities,— meant that in terms of fatalities, they have gone down by a— fatalities, they have gone down by o throt— fatalities, they have gone down by o thtrt m— fatalities, they have gone down by a third in the— fatalities, they have gone down by a third in the past ten yeos— by a third in the past ten yes ever— by a third in the past ten years. over the- by a third in the past ten years. over the past 20 years, the— years. over the past 20 years, the hrtttsh— years. over the past 20 years, the british horse— years. over the past 20 years, the british horse racing mtostry— the british horse racing industry has— the british horse racing industry has put in more than the— industry has put in more than the mttttom— industry has put in more than £40 million into— industry has put in more than £40 million into advances in weterhory— £40 million into advances in veterinary welfare. ' “oi veterinary welfare. and that's not just for horses. that race that actually filters down to every day horses, horses that some viewers might ride some of your viewers might ride when to to to when they go to a to a to a riding riding school. 99.8% of horses who race and- oi “rig oi “rig t 99.8% of horses who race and there ”oi “rig ”oi “rig t 99.8% of horses who race and there are 90,000— horses who race and there are 90,000 runners— horses who race and there are 90,000 runners per year , 99.8% 90,000 runners per year, 99.8% of 90,000 runners per year, 99.8% ot horses— 90,000 runners per year, 99.8% ot hose who— 90,000 runners per year, 99.8% of horses who race.— 90,000 runners per year, 99.8% of horses who race. it is somptetety— of horses who race. it is completely correct, 99.8% of runners in a year.— completely correct, 99.8% of runners in a year. and there are 90,000— runners in a year. and there are 90,000 ot— runners in a year. and there are 90,000 of those— runners in a year. and there are 90,000 of those return to their stohtes— 90,000 of those return to their stables perfectly— 90,000 of those return to their stables perfectly fine . and that stables perfectly fine. and that is stables perfectly fine. and that ts o— stables perfectly fine. and that ts o very— stables perfectly fine. and that ts o wery tote— stables perfectly fine. and that is a very fide figure. if we tott— is a very fide figure. if we tott moot— is a very fide figure. if we talk about some of the other

pohts— talk about some of the other potmts thot— talk about some of the other points that louisa has made in terms— points that louisa has made in terms ot— points that louisa has made in terms ot the— points that louisa has made in terms of the stop— points that louisa has made in terms of the stop race procedures— terms of the stop race procedures ,- terms of the stop race procedures , there are strict procedures, there are strict stop— procedures, there are strict stop rose— procedures, there are strict stop race procedures . we have to stop race procedures. we have to in stop race procedures. we have to m horse— stop race procedures. we have to m horse rosmg— stop race procedures. we have to m horse rosmg .— stop race procedures. we have to in horse racing , they have to in horse racing, they have to stop— in horse racing, they have to stop roses— in horse racing, they have to stop races for— in horse racing, they have to stop races for lots of different rt— stop races for lots of different reasons. it might— stop races for lots of different reasons. it might happen. and peopte— reasons. it might happen. and peopte oe— reasons. it might happen. and people are drilled in how to do thos— people are drilled in how to do thot—thot- people are drilled in how to do that._that they. that. it's something that they are that. it's something that they expert— that. it's something that they expert m.— that. it's something that they expert m. r— that. it's something that they are expert in. i learned from mtewtewmg— interviewing the jockeys yestertoy— interviewing the jockeys yesterday at _ interviewing the jockeys yesterday at epsom that had yesterday at epsom that they had ostootty—some- yesterday at epsom that they had actually some advice actually been given some advice ,_.rour- actually been given some advice ,_.rour thotl , personal training about that phot— , personal training about that prtor to— , personal training about that prior to running— , personal training about that prior to running the derby . but prior to running the derby. but the ret— prior to running the derby. but the ret the,— prior to running the derby. but the red line, the— prior to running the derby. but the red line, the animal rising put the red line, the animal rising pot tomoro— the red line, the animal rising put forward was— the red line, the animal rising put forward was that they would not try— put forward was that they would not try to — put forward was that they would not try to infiltrate the track the — not try to infiltrate the track once the race— not try to infiltrate the track once the race had started . wbii: once the race had started. we otom-t. the— once the race had started. we didn't. the race— once the race had started. we didn't. the race had- once the race had started. wbii: oi oi“ c the race had clearly didn't. the race had clearly stortet— didn't. the race had clearly started even— didn't. the race had clearly started even their- oi oi“ c the race had clearly started even their own, even theor— started even their own, even thetr own— started even their own, even their own social— started even their own, even their own social media shows thot— their own social media shows mm the— their own social media shows that the police— their own social media shows that the police have stated that hot— that the police have stated that thot os— that the police have stated that thot o— that the police have stated that that was a fact— that the police have stated that that was a fact .— that the police have stated that that was a fact . the racegoer, that was a fact. the racegoer, the emhe— that was a fact. the racegoer, the member of— that was a fact. the racegoer, the member of the who the member of the public who timet— the member of the public who tttmet the— the member of the public who filmed the video— the member of the public who filmed the video of the of ben wewmm— filmed the video of the of ben newman on the— filmed the video of the of ben newman on the track whilst in the—the-tsl the background. the race is otreoty— the background. the race is already underway said already underway, has said a bit soretot— already underway, has said a bit careful about— already underway, has said a bit careful about about exactly what we soy— careful about about exactly what we soy hot— careful about about exactly what we soy hot r— careful about about exactly what we say but i completely take thot-s— we say but i completely take thot-slthe— we say but i completely take that's-the public- we say but i completely take that's the public domain that we say but i completely take that' the the public domain that we say but i completely take that' the newspapersiomain that we say but i completely take that' the newspapers this in that is in the newspapers this mommg— is in the newspapers this mommg-o- is in the newspapers this morning-a lot- is in the newspapers this morning a lot of it is morning it is a lot of it is mteet. — morning it is a lot of it is indeed. .louise- morning it is a lot of it is indeed. .louise ,- morning it is a lot of it is indeed. oioio morning it is a lot of it is. indeed. .louise , do you morning it is a lot of it is- indeed. .louise , do you know, indeed. but louise, do you know, just looking at this more broadly, something that upsets a

lot of our viewers and upsets a lot of our viewers and upsets a lot of our viewers and upsets a lot of the british public is the idea. and same with idea. and it's the same with groups just oil animal groups like just stop oil animal rebellion, types of rebellion, all of these types of groups that they have some kind of moral authority to decide what people should and should not be doing, whether it's with animals, whether with animals, whether it's with energy supply, whether it's with climate it is, climate change, whatever it is, what gives you the moral authority to tell people what they can and can't do, and then to disrupt at occasions? that's the issue for me . i disagree. the issue for me. i disagree. it's very self—entitled . i don't it's very self—entitled. i don't believe that i'm— it's very self—entitled. i don't believe that i'm telling- ccoioi i don't believe that i'm telling anyone whot— believe that i'm telling anyone whot they— believe that i'm telling anyone whot they sm— believe that i'm telling anyone what they can and can't do as tong— what they can and can't do as tomg os— what they can and can't do as tomg os we— what they can and can't do as long as we have— what they can and can't do as long as we have industries that resott— long as we have industries that resott m— long as we have industries that resott m the— long as we have industries that result in the harm— long as we have industries that result in the harm to animals, there— result in the harm to animals, there wttt— result in the harm to animals, there will be— result in the harm to animals, there will be people who are wttttmg— there will be people who are wttttmg to— there will be people who are willing to step— there will be people who are willing to step up and stop that trom— willing to step up and stop that room—mow- willing to step up and stop that room—mow .- willing to step up and stop thatj from—know , not willing to step up and stop that. from—know , not so from happening. you know, not so tong— from happening. you know, not so tong-wm— from happening. you know, not so tong-wos ottegot- from happening. you know, not so long-was illegal to- long ago, it was illegal to mom— long ago, it was illegal to smosh .— long ago, it was illegal to smash ,.smash- long ago, it was illegal to- smash ,.smash-window to smash, to smash a car window to -soeho— smash, to smash a car window to save _who was stuck,- smash, to smash a car window to save who was stuck, stuck save a dog who was stuck, stuck mstte. — save a dog who was stuck, stuck msots-mow,— save a dog who was stuck, stuck inside. .know, and- save a dog who was stuck, stuck inside. know, and these inside. you know, and these tows— inside. you know, and these laws,-changed- inside. you know, and these laws, changed because laws, they changed because peopte—to - laws, they changed because. people _to smash people were willing to smash thot— people were willing to smash that window.— people were willing to smash that window. i— people were willing to smash that window. i certainly would people were willing to smash tha'and dow. i certainly would people were willing to smash tha'and this i certainly would people were willing to smash tha'and this is certainly would people were willing to smash tha'and this is the ainly would people were willing to smash tha'and this is the samevould people were willing to smash tha'and this is the same kind of be. and this is the same kind of thmg— be. and this is the same kind of thing happening-— be. and this is the same kind of thing happening. we need people to—ostootty- thing happening. we need people to—ostootty l to stand up and say, actually, why— to stand up and say, actually, why to— to stand up and say, actually, why to we— to stand up and say, actually, why do we need— to stand up and say, actually, why do we need to use animals the— why do we need to use animals the those— why do we need to use animals like this?-should_ why do we need to use animals like this? should be loving like this? we should be loving

them— like this? we should be loving them mt— like this? we should be loving them and-them- like this? we should be loving- them and _them-respect them and giving them the respect that them and giving them the respect thot-tesewe.— them and giving them the respect that-deserve. they- that they they deserve. they they—mt - that they they deserve. theyi they—and happy they deserve long and happy thes— they deserve long and happy twes m— they deserve long and happy lives in retirement . but, they deserve long and happy lives in retirement. but, luis, yoo— lives in retirement. but, luis, are you expecting— lives in retirement. but, luis, are you expecting a thousand peopte— are you expecting a thousand peopte to— are you expecting a thousand peopte to soe— are you expecting a thousand people to come to epsom yestertoy— people to come to epsom yestertoy m— people to come to epsom yesterday in protest? and as i omterstmt— yesterday in protest? and as i understand it,— yesterday in protest? and as i understand it, certainly reports thot— understand it, certainly reports thot-reot— understand it, certainly reports that read newspaper that i've read in the newspaper soggest— that i've read in the newspaper soggest thot— that i've read in the newspaper suggest that legal area suggest that in the legal area of suggest that in the legal area ot protest— suggest that in the legal area of protest-are-40| of protest there are about 40 peopte— of protest there are about 40 peopte there— of protest there are about 40 peopte there .— of protest there are about 40 people there . and contrast that people there. and contrast that wtth— people there. and contrast that wtth zoooo— people there. and contrast that with 20,000 people paid to with 20,000 people who paid to wotsh— with 20,000 people who paid to wotsh the— with 20,000 people who paid to watch the derby— with 20,000 people who paid to watch the derby and many, many who— watch the derby and many, many who sot— watch the derby and many, many more who sat-the— watch the derby and many, many more who sat the middle of more who sat in the middle of the— more who sat in the middle of thelthe— more who sat in the middle of the-the track— more who sat in the middle of the the track talking, the of the track talking, womttmg — the of the track talking, womttmg to — the of the track talking, wanting to watch the race from trom — wanting to watch the race from trom the — wanting to watch the race from from the centre— wanting to watch the race from from the centre centre of the trost. — from the centre centre of the track. millions— from the centre centre of the track. millions of- from the centre centre of the track. cc track. millions of people watching it around the world, you know this you do not have you know this you do not have you do not have the public behind you on this. and certainly those- certainly those people at behind you on this. and- certainly those people at home mt— certainly those people at home and-mentioned— certainly those people at home and mentioned the metal bit and you mentioned the metal bit in and you mentioned the metal bit he the— and you mentioned the metal bit he the horses— and you mentioned the metal bit in the horse's mouth for steerhg— in the horse's mouth for. steering, - attached in the horse's mouth for- steering, - attached to in the horse's mouth for- steebridle. _attached to in the horse's mouth for steebridle. people :hed to in the horse's mouth for steebridle. people who to in the horse's mouth for steebridle. people who ride the bridle. but people who ride theor— the bridle. but people who ride thetr horses— the bridle. but people who ride their horses at— the bridle. but people who ride their horses at home, they know thot— their horses at home, they know mm mm— their horses at home, they know mm mm ts— their horses at home, they know mm mm ts o— their horses at home, they know that that is a valid— their horses at home, they know that that is a valid piece of egotpmemt— that that is a valid piece of egotpmemt m— that that is a valid piece of equipment in order to be able to steer— equipment in order to be able to steer-ots— equipment in order to be able to steer-it's similar- steer a horse. it's similar to a tsot— steer a horse. it's similar to a lead—presumablyi lead control dog. presumably yoor— lead control dog. presumably yoor-yoo— lead control dog. presumably yoor-yoo grew- lead control dog. presumably your you grew up your dog that you grew up otomgstte— your dog that you grew up alongside taken for walks on alongside was taken for walks on the-steer— alongside was taken for walks on the-steer tt— alongside was taken for walks on the-steer it and- alongside was taken for walks on the steer it and prevent the lead to steer it and prevent it the lead to steer it and prevent tt—mto— the lead to steer it and prevent tt—mto horm- the lead to steer it and prevent it_into harmlbit. the lead to steer it and prevent| it_into harmlbit is it from going into harm a bit is pohtot— it from going into harm a bit is pomtot. otoy— it from going into harm a bit is painful. okay, but— it from going into harm a bit is

painful. okay, but back to your poht— painful. okay, but back to your pom-momher- painful. okay, but back to your point-number of- painful. okay, but back to your point number of people point about the number of people , i point about the number of people , r thmt— point about the number of people , i think something— point about the number of people , i think something really tmportmt— , i think something really- important—actually important that we have actually in important that we have actually more—- important that we have actually hw—e ott- important that we have actually hwe— ott tol important that we have actually. in _we all do love in common is that we all do love mtmots. — in common is that we all do love mtmots. -see— in common is that we all do love animals. _see that- in common is that we all do love animals. see that you're animals. i can see that you're very—thts- very passionate about this, and i_y0u_ very passionate about this, and r—yoo-wettl i believe that you do as well. r-m — i believe that you do as well. r-m soe— i believe that you do as well. r-m yoo— i believe that you do as well. i'm sure you really appreciate these— i'm sure you really appreciate these horses— i'm sure you really appreciate these horses and— i'm sure you really appreciate these horses and all of the peopte— these horses and all of the people but these horses and all of the peopthat but these horses and all of the peopthat the but these horses and all of the peopthat the point, but these horses and all of the peopthat the point, though? but isn't that the point, though? all isn't that the point, though? wot-peopte?— isn't that the point, though? all-people?-that. isn't that the point, though? alllpoint, people? .that. isn't that the point, though? alllpoint, thatole?-that. isn't that the point, though? the point, that people see things differently ? see, things differently? see, and what animal rising what groups like animal rising are to do is impose their are trying to do is impose their belief system. now, what we want on everyone else? well, that's exactly when there exactly what happens when there are disrupt are these types of disrupt happens, whether it's epsom happens, whether it's the epsom derby, whether it's other derbies, whether it's other races is exactly what races that is exactly what activists are trying to do, impose their way of life on it. may i just ask you very, very quickly, louisa , though, because quickly, louisa, though, because i a lot people i think a lot of people are interested happens interested in this, what happens to after they're to the horses after they're finished racing? well, we have a retrohhg— finished racing? well, we have a retrohhg ot— finished racing? well, we have a retraining of racehorses- finished racing? well, we have a retraining of racehorses ,- �*" i“ i ”ec “oig7 well, we have a retraining of racehorses , which retraining of racehorses, which is retraining of racehorses, which ts o— retraining of racehorses, which ts o shortty— retraining of racehorses, which is a charity that's— retraining of racehorses, which is a charity that's wholly tohtet— is a charity that's wholly tomtet hy— is a charity that's wholly funded by the - is a charity that's wholly funded by the racing industry. who— funded by the racing industry. amt thot— funded by the racing industry. and that means— funded by the racing industry. and that means that- funded by the racing industry. and that means that they- funded by the racing industry. and that means that they can go on have fulfilling second on to have fulfilling second careers that can be anything careers and that can be anything from dressage or jumping from dressage or show jumping things that louisa's organisation would like to ban as and sort of having a

as well. and sort of having a horse that to ride at home. something else that louisa's organisation would like to ban what animal rising are talking about extinction an about are the extinction of an entire breed. what entire breed. that's what they want. i we're worried want. i mean, if we're worried moot— want. i mean, if we're worried about extinction— i mean, if we're worried about extinction animal farming is about extinction animal farming tsthe— about extinction animal farming tsthe-soose— about extinction animal farming is the _cause of- is the leading cause of biodiversity— is the leading cause of biodiversity loss. that is, unfortunately going have unfortunately i'm going to have to interrupt you. i'm very sorry. have spoken sorry. we could have spoken about this for much, much longer. very longer. i'm sure. thank you very much. interesting indeed to much. very interesting indeed to hear louisa hear both sides on that. louisa hill—wood, spokesperson for animal and lydia heslop, animal rising and lydia heslop, who is a broadcaster and expert in racing horse racing in particular. so moving on, prince harry and meghan are reportedly going to spare us any further fly on the wall documentaries and going focus on being and are going to focus on being behind the cameras instead. that's according to the sun newspaper where the duke and duchess are going duchess of sussex are going to stop in stop bashing the royal family in their books and netflix their tell all books and netflix shows . joining me now is royal shows. joining me now is royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. richard firstly, is this true? do you suspect it's true ? do you think that it's true? do you think that they could possibly decide to leave the camera to others and stay behind? quiet wall flowers

? well, this is a report. it's a amt— ? well, this is a report. it's a rumour. and remember that the sussexes are an expert when it comes to surprising us. but on this comes to surprising us. but on thts porttsotor— comes to surprising us. but on this particular occasion- comes to surprising us. but on this particular occasion ,- t “rig ct? but on this particular occasion , i this particular occasion, i thht— this particular occasion, i think we've— this particular occasion, i think we've got to remember that at, think we've got to remember that a, tor— think we've got to remember that a, tor exompte— think we've got to remember that at, for example, the— think we've got to remember that at, for example, the netflix tososertes — at, for example, the netflix docuseries, they've done one six hoors— docuseries, they've done one six hoors tor— docuseries, they've done one six hoors tor whot— docuseries, they've done one six hours for what, $100 million? they— hours for what, $100 million? they sopposetty— hours for what, $100 million? they supposedly have a link with them. — they supposedly have a link with them. ttmtom— they supposedly have a link with them. random house. so we've had worry-s— them. random house. so we've had horry-s memotrs— them. random house. so we've had harry's memoirs spare well, in my ophtom— harry's memoirs spare well, in my opinion there's a possibility of my opinion there's a possibility ot three— my opinion there's a possibility of three more— my opinion there's a possibility of three more books. meghan's the— of three more books. meghan's memoir, the other— of three more books. meghan's memoir, the other 400 pages that sot— memoir, the other 400 pages that sot trom — memoir, the other 400 pages that were cut from spare,— memoir, the other 400 pages that were cut from spare, which harry sott— were cut from spare, which harry soot htmsett— were cut from spare, which harry said himself would— were cut from spare, which harry said himself would make another hoot,— said himself would make another hoot, mt— said himself would make another book, and perhaps— said himself would make another book, and perhaps a book about his childhood. _ book, and perhaps a book about his childhood. i— book, and perhaps a book about his childhood. i mean, i'm not soyhg— his childhood. i mean, i'm not soyhg thts— his childhood. i mean, i'm not saying this would— his childhood. i mean, i'm not saying this would necessarily hoppeh. — saying this would necessarily hoppeh. tm— saying this would necessarily hoppeh. rm hot— saying this would necessarily happen. i'm not saying that they hesessortty— happen. i'm not saying that they necessarily have— happen. i'm not saying that they necessarily have plans to attack the toyot— necessarily have plans to attack the royal family— necessarily have plans to attack the royal family in some other woy— the royal family in some other my hot— the royal family in some other my hot r— the royal family in some other my hot r wtsh— the royal family in some other way. but i wish i— the royal family in some other way. but i wish i believed that they— way. but i wish i believed that they woott— way. but i wish i believed that they woott he— way. but i wish i believed that they would be more reasonable on they would be more reasonable on the ssoes— they would be more reasonable on the issues that— they would be more reasonable on the issues that they— they would be more reasonable on the issues that they undoubtedly feel the issues that they undoubtedly teet very— the issues that they undoubtedly teet wery strohgty— the issues that they undoubtedly feel very strongly about . they

feel very strongly about. they teet— feel very strongly about. they teet thot— feel very strongly about. they feel that the _ feel very strongly about. they feel that the british that the potose — feel that the british that the potose h— feel that the british that the palace in collusion , they have palace in collusion, they have sott— palace in collusion, they have soot wtth— palace in collusion, they have said with the _ palace in collusion, they have said with the british media essehttotty— said with the british media essentially them out of britain . amt— essentially them out of britain . mt whee— essentially them out of britain . and we've now— essentially them out of britain . and we've now got a series of soot— . and we've now got a series of court cases which— . and we've now got a series of court cases which harry is and thts— court cases which harry is and thts ts— court cases which harry is and thts ts o— court cases which harry is and this is a totally— court cases which harry is and this is a totally different topts. — this is a totally different topts. or— this is a totally different topic. of course , which he is topic. of course, which he is pohthg— topic. of course, which he is pohthg the— topic. of course, which he is painting the media because he tt— painting the media because he tt os— painting the media because he tt os hts— painting the media because he sees it as his life's work. so oh— sees it as his life's work. so on the— sees it as his life's work. so on the one— sees it as his life's work. so on the one hand,- sees it as his life's work. so on the one hand, we're told or they-re— on the one hand, we're told or they're rumours— on the one hand, we're told or they're rumours that they'll be met— they're rumours that they'll be gotet om— they're rumours that they'll be gotet on one— they're rumours that they'll be quiet on one front. on another trom— quiet on one front. on another front, certainly,— quiet on one front. on another front, certainly, harry is very osthe— front, certainly, harry is very osthe . — front, certainly, harry is very osthe . tes.— front, certainly, harry is very active . yes. i— front, certainly, harry is very active . yes. i just- front, certainly, harry is very active . yes. i just i- front, certainly, harry is very active . /oi;t;i active. yes. i just i just simply don't believe it, richard. i think perhaps prince harry would be happy just keeping himself to his various court cases . but i keeping himself to his various court cases. but i imagine i imagine meghan markle wants to continue due with her stardom, her route to stardom, and also , her route to stardom, and also, of course, perhaps political aspirations , too. i'm really aspirations, too. i'm really sorry, richard. i'm going to have to cut it short there. richard fitzwilliams, a fantastic royal commentator. i'm very to cut you off, but very sorry to cut you off, but we coming up to the end of we are coming up to the end of the show. remember

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o the— into the evening time, you can o the emo— into the evening time, you can see a fine end to— into the evening time, you can see a fine end to the day for mmy— see a fine end to the day for mmy .— see a fine end to the day for mmy lthts— see a fine end to the day for many .-this-cloud. see a fine end to the day for many .-this-cloud the many. but this low cloud in the worth— many. but this low cloud in the worth-otreoty— many. but this low cloud in the north already rolling north sea is already rolling host— north sea is already rolling host hto— north sea is already rolling back into eastern areas and owemtght— back into eastern areas and overnight pushes south overnight it pushes south westworts— overnight it pushes south westwards, reaching as far south mt— westwards, reaching as far south mt west— westwards, reaching as far south mt west os— westwards, reaching as far south and west as parts— westwards, reaching as far south and west as parts of east wales mt— and west as parts of east wales mt the— and west as parts of east wales mt the west— and west as parts of east wales and the west country . clearer and the west country. clearer stres— and the west country. clearer skies further— and the west country. clearer skies further west here turning gotte— skies further west here turning gotte shttty. — skies further west here turning quite chilly. temperatures dipping— quite chilly. temperatures dipping largely into single ttgores— dipping largely into single ttgores h— dipping largely into single figures in the— dipping largely into single figures in the countryside . figures in the countryside. towns— figures in the countryside. towhs mt— figures in the countryside. towns and cities holding a towns and cities holding up a ttttte— towns and cities holding up a ttttte htgher— towns and cities holding up a little higher. so— towns and cities holding up a little higher. so west east spttt— little higher. so west east spttt tor— little higher. so west east 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slowly lifts opt-mt hy- morning. but it's slowly lifts and-and by-timei and breaks and by the time we get-ottemooh— and breaks and by the time we get-afternoonlwill- get to the afternoon it will torgety— get to the afternoon it will largely affect— get to the afternoon it will largely affect eastern counties of largely affect eastern counties ot-mt— largely affect eastern counties of-and eastern- largely affect eastern counties of and eastern parts of of england and eastern parts of ssottmt— of england and eastern parts of ssottmt .— of england and eastern parts of ssottmt . oth— of england and eastern parts of scotland . an isolated shower scotland. an isolated shower possthte— scotland. an isolated shower possible northern ireland and ssottmt,— possible northern ireland and scotland, but— possible northern ireland and scotland, but most places dry wtth— scotland, but most places dry with sunshine.— scotland, but most places dry with sunshine. temperatures a ttttte— with sunshine. temperatures a little-compared- with sunshine. temperatures a little compared to the little lower compared to the weekend,— little lower compared to the weekend,-still- little lower compared to the weekend, still reaching the weekend, but still reaching the low weekend, but still reaching the tow zes— weekend, but still reaching the low 20s across— weekend, but still reaching the low 20s across the west. a ttttte— low 20s across the west. a little chillier— low 20s across the west. a little chillier for- low 20s across the west. a little chillier for some eastern soost— little chillier for some eastern soost where— little chillier for some eastern coast where we— little chillier for some eastern coast where we keep that cloud mt— coast where we keep that cloud mt then— coast where we keep that cloud mt theh tts— coast where we keep that cloud and then it's rinse— coast where we keep that cloud and then it's rinse and repeat. we and then it's rinse and repeat. we see— and then it's rinse and repeat. we see-stoot— and then it's rinse and repeat.| we see .cloud-back we see that cloud moving back in throogh— we see that cloud moving back in throogh-ewehhg- we see that cloud moving back in through evening and through monday evening and owemtght— through monday evening and overnight thicken up at times

for overnight thicken up at times tor o— overnight thicken up at times tor o ttttte— overnight thicken up at times for a little bit— overnight thicken up at times for a little bit of— overnight thicken up at times for a little bit of light rain or trtzzte. — for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and— for a little bit of light rain or drizzle. and notice how it even stretches— or drizzle. and notice how it even stretches out even further west— even stretches out even further westlwe — even stretches out even further westlwe stort— even stretches out even further west we start tuesday morning west as we start tuesday morning wtth— west as we start tuesday morning wtth moe— west as we start tuesday morning with more cloud— west as we start tuesday morning with more cloud around temperatures- with more cloud around temperatures holding up little temperatures holding up a little home— temperatures holding up a little htgherlhot— temperatures holding up a little htgherlhot-my- temperatures holding up a little higher but any clear higher. but under any clear stres— higher. but under any clear skies across— higher. but under any clear skies across the _ higher. but under any clear skies across the far west, it wttt— skies across the far west, it wttt he — skies across the far west, it wttt he o— skies across the far west, it will be a chilly— skies across the far west, it will be a chilly start to toestoy— will be a chilly start to toestoy .— will be a chilly start to tuesday . so- will be a chilly start to tuesday . so a grey start for tuesday. so a grey start for mmy— tuesday. so a grey start for many sunshine— tuesday. so a grey start for many sunshine ,- tuesday. so a grey start for many sunshine , though, for many sunshine, though, for northern— many sunshine, though, for northern ireland. western ssottmt— northern ireland. western ssottmt .— northern ireland. western scotland , northwest england and scotland, northwest england and woes.— scotland, northwest england and woes-tost— scotland, northwest england and wales.-just notice- scotland, northwest england and wales. just notice the wales. and then just notice the stoot— wales. and then just notice the stoot-tost— wales. and then just notice the cloud .just-around. cloud may just hang around a ttttte— cloud may just hang around a ttttte moe— cloud may just hang around a little more on— cloud may just hang around a little more on tuesday, but ewehtootty— little more on tuesday, but eventually breaking later eventually breaking up later wetmestoy— eventually breaking up later wethestoy .— eventually breaking up later wednesday , more in the way of wednesday, more in the way of sohshhe— wednesday, more in the way of sohshhe tor— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most— wednesday, more in the way of sunshine for most sunny spells thorstoy— sunshine for most sunny spells thorstoy, hot— sunshine for most sunny spells thursday, but turning windier in the .—

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