for you we've got a lively one for you in my— we've got a lively one for you in my big— we've got a lively one for you in my big opinion, if you think things— in my big opinion, if you think things are— in my big opinion, if you think things are bad— in my big opinion, if you think things are bad right now, wait for prime— things are bad right now, wait for prime minister starmer. britain— for prime minister starmer. britain can't— for prime minister starmer. britain can't afford a labour government— britain can't afford a labour government made mark meets guest is popular. — government made mark meets guest is pspuiai boris— government made mark meets guest is popular. boris supporting isiy— is popular. boris supporting isiy iii— is popular. boris supporting isiy iii dave— is popular. boris supporting tory mp dave morris and it might iaks— tory mp dave morris and it might isks si— tory mp dave morris and it might isks ii isn— tory mp dave morris and it might take at ten grinning millionaire . a hsiiy— take at ten grinning millionaire . a holly willoughby will address— . a holly willoughby will address the— . a holly willoughby will address the nation tomorrow as siss— address the nation tomorrow as she remissi— address the nation tomorrow as she isumsi is— address the nation tomorrow as she returns to the— address the nation tomorrow as she returns to the this morning sofa— she returns to the this morning ssia .— she returns to the this morning ssia . siss— she returns to the this morning sofa . she thinks— she returns to the this morning sofa . she thinks this will be sofa. she thinks this will be siss— sofa. she thinks this will be is iasi— sofa. she thinks this will be the last word,— sofa. she thinks this will be the last word, but the story has sniy— the last word, but the story has sniy iusi— the last word, but the story has sniy iusi begun.— the last word, but the story has only just begun. you won't want to only just begun. you won't want is miss— only just begun. you won't want is my— only just begun. you won't want to miss my unapologetic reaction to miss my unapologetic reaction is ms— to miss my unapologetic reaction to the showbiz— to miss my unapologetic reaction to the showbiz story of the year- — to the showbiz story of the year- ami — to the showbiz story of the year- ami i— to the showbiz story of the year. and i won't be pulling my sumsmss— year. and i won't be pulling my sumsmss .— punches. ii- punches. it will be a punches.- it will be a very smsisss— it will be a very lively smsiss— it will be a very lively one. iss— it will be a very lively one. isi ms— it will be a very lively one. isi ms isii— it will be a very lively one. let me tell you— it will be a very lively one. let me tell you first, the immune— let me tell you first, the headline is— let me tell you first, the headline is with the brilliant ssimmy— headline is with the brilliant ssmmy iissy— headline is with the brilliant bethany elsey ._ headline is with the brilliant bethany elsey . it's her last bethany elsey. it's her last siss— bethany elsey. it's her last show before _ bethany elsey. it's her last show before she goes off to have a gsmssus— show before she goes off to have

a gsmssus baby— show before she goes off to have a gsmssus baby .— show before she goes off to have a gorgeous baby . so let's enjoy a gorgeous baby. so let's enjoy it. a gorgeous baby. so let's enjoy ii. ssmsms— a gorgeous baby. so let's enjoy it. bethany, take— a gorgeous baby. so let's enjoy it. bethany, take it away . it. bethany, take it away. immi— it. bethany, take it away. mmi vou— it. bethany, take it away. thank you very— it. bethany, take it away. thank you very much,- it. bethany, take it away. thank you very much, mark, for that lovely introduction. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom . stories from the gb newsroom. the immigration minister says the uk's asylum system is riddled with abuse and that the government must reduce its reliance on hotels to house migrant . reliance on hotels to house migrant. it's after reliance on hotels to house migrant . it's after protests migrant. it's after protests were held outside a hotel in central london where migrants were asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said it's wrong for migrants to demand better accommodation while their asylum claims are processed . he also said the uk processed. he also said the uk is spending £6 million a day on hotels and that asking migrants to share a room is necessary to get value for taxpayers money. remember these are migrants who isms— remember these are migrants who have said— remember these are migrants who have said they— remember these are migrants who have said they are— remember these are migrants who have said they are destitute . have said they are destitute. thev've— have said they are destitute. imsy-vs ssis— have said they are destitute. they've said that they have sissimsiy— they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no immis— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends ms— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family , no money. friends, no family, no money. ams—

friends, no family, no money. ami ms— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing— and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good susiiiy— and providing them with good quality accommodation and board and isisimss— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and so those i mimi— and lodgings. and so those i miss msss— and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong to think those migrants are wrong is sisissi— think those migrants are wrong is msissi ms— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve— to protest and say that they deserve is— to protest and say that they deserve to have— to protest and say that they deserve to have single bedrooms wim— deserve to have single bedrooms wim sm— deserve to have single bedrooms wim sm suiis— deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. with en suite bathrooms and so ams— with en suite bathrooms and so ami im— with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense— on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have sisvsiiss— common sense seems to have sisvsiiss im— common sense seems to have prevailed in this— common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. dorset ssiiss— prevailed in this case. dorset ssiiss isms— prevailed in this case. dorset police have named a 17 year old boy— police have named a 17 year old is wis— police have named a 17 year old is sms siss— police have named a 17 year old boy who died after— police have named a 17 year old boy who died after getting into siiiisuiiy— boy who died after getting into siiiisuiiy im— boy who died after getting into difficulty in the _ boy who died after getting into difficulty in the water off bournemouth _ difficulty in the water off bournemouth beach on wednesday . bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe assas— bournemouth beach on wednesday. iss assss iism — bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe abbas from southampton- bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe abbas from southampton died after being pulled from the sea. in a statement, his family said they were heartbroken and devastated, describing him as a fabulous young man, a 12 year old girl named in reports as sunak khan from high wycombe in buckinghamshire also died in the incident, which involved ten swimmers, a site seeing boat named the dorset belle has been impounded by police . a man has impounded by police. a man has been charged after allegedly wearing a shirt to the fa cup final yesterday , which appeared final yesterday, which appeared to have an offensive reference

to have an offensive reference to the hillsborough disaster. 33 year old james white from warwickshire has been charged with displaying , threatening or with displaying, threatening or abusive writing and is expected to appear at willesden magistrates court next week . 97 magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool fans died in 1989 at hillsborough stadium in sheffield . authorities in india sheffield. authorities in india say a signal problem was likely responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades . as worst train crash in decades. as 275 people were killed in the accident and another 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second passing train . prime second passing train. prime minister narendra modi has vowed to punish anyone found responsible . and a labour mp has responsible. and a labour mp has told gb news victims are too scared to complain about sexual predators . scared to complain about sexual predators. in parliament. charlotte nicholls said harassment is baked into every single part of how westminster operates. she also accused the

labour party of choosing not to act on concerns raised about a number of colleagues over a very long period. her comments come after she revealed being handed after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps she should avoid when first becoming an mp . you're up to date on tv online .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb views news. now it's back to . to. marki i thanks, is. imm— . thanks, bethany. welcome to thanks, bethany. welcome to mark . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark issim— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight in- thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big ssimism— mark dolan tonight in my big opinions ii— mark dolan tonight in my big ssimism, ii ysu— mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, if you think things are iss— opinion, if you think things are iss-mm,— opinion, if you think things are bad-now, wait— opinion, if you think things are bad-now, wait for- opinion, if you think things are bad now, wait for prime bad right now, wait for prime iiimisisi— bad right now, wait for prime minister starmer. britain can't mism— minister starmer. britain can't affordllabour_ minister starmer. britain can't afford labour government in afford a labour government in the afford a labour government in is big— afford a labour government in ms big sissy— afford a labour government in ms big sism ss— afford a labour government in the big story as rowan atkinson says— the big story as rowan atkinson says is— the big story as rowan atkinson says is issis— the big story as rowan atkinson says he feels conned. our sissiiis— says he feels conned. our electric cars— says he feels conned. our electric cars are- says he feels conned. our electric cars are a waste of iims. — electric cars are a waste of iims. iii— electric cars are a waste of iims. in is— electric cars are a waste of time. i'll be asking former top sem— time. i'll be asking former top gear presenter— time. i'll be asking former top gear presenter quentin willson iivs— gear presenter quentin willson iivs im— gear presenter quentin willson iivs in ms — gear presenter quentin willson live in the studio— gear presenter quentin willson live in the studio now. and as isismi— live in the studio now. and as isismi summ— live in the studio now. and as rishi sunak heads to america, is the rishi sunak heads to america, is is ssssisi— rishi sunak heads to america, is the special relationship at an all

the special relationship at an sii iims— the special relationship at an all time low?— the special relationship at an all time low? i'll— the special relationship at an all time low.7 i'll be asking iismsisi— all time low.7 i'll be asking margaret thatcher's former ssvissi— margaret thatcher's former adviser, nigel— margaret thatcher's former adviser, nigel gardiner , live adviser, nigel gardiner, live ism— adviser, nigel gardiner, live from washington, dc . my mark from washington, dc. my mark mssis— from washington, dc. my mark mssis guess— from washington, dc. my mark mssis gussi is— from washington, dc. my mark meets guest is popular boris susssmimg— meets guest is popular boris susssmims ism— meets guest is popular boris supporting tory mp david morris . ams— supporting tory mp david morris . ami im— supporting tory mp david morris . ms in my— supporting tory mp david morris . and in my take— supporting tory mp david morris . and in my take at ten grinning miiiismsiis— . and in my take at ten grinning millionaire holly— . and in my take at ten grinning millionaire holly willoughby wiii— millionaire holly willoughby will address— millionaire holly willoughby will address the nation tomorrow as siss— will address the nation tomorrow as sms isumsi— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to the this msmims— as she returns to the this morning sofa.— as she returns to the this morning sofa. she thinks this uiii— morning sofa. she thinks this uiii is— morning sofa. she thinks this uiii is is— morning sofa. she thinks this will be the last— morning sofa. she thinks this will be the last word, but the sissy— will be the last word, but the sism mus— will be the last word, but the stsm mus smu— will be the last word, but the story has only just begun. you usm-i— story has only just begun. you usm-i smi— story has only just begun. you usm-i mum is— story has only just begun. you won't want to miss my unapologetic- won't want to miss my unapologetic reaction to the smsuiiz— unapologetic reaction to the smsuiiz sissy— unapologetic reaction to the showbiz story of— unapologetic reaction to the showbiz story of the year. and let showbiz story of the year. and is ms— showbiz story of the year. and is ms isii— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you ,_ showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you , i— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you , i won't be let me tell you, i won't be pulling— let me tell you, i won't be pulling my— let me tell you, i won't be pulling my punches . that's at pulling my punches. that's at ism.— pulling my punches. that's at ism. tiss— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will tax— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will tax cuts save the isiiss— ten. also will tax cuts save the isiiss s— ten. also will tax cuts save the isiiss s iii— ten. also will tax cuts save the tories .7 i'll be— ten. also will tax cuts save the tories .7 i'll be asking tonight's tories.7 i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , politics legend ann newsmaker, politics legend ann iiisssssmis— newsmaker, politics legend ann iiisssssmiss .— newsmaker, politics legend ann widdecombe . also, is it time to widdecombe. also, is it time to musk— widdecombe. also, is it time to musk ssum— widdecombe. also, is it time to crack down on— widdecombe. also, is it time to crack down on westminster sex sssis— crack down on westminster sex sssis s— crack down on westminster sex pssts s imm— crack down on westminster sex pests .7 mark dolan tonight is the pests? mark dolan tonight is the isms— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the msms sf— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the msms si ms— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers pests? mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's— home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at sxssiiy— tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 _ tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp with three top exactly 1030 sharp with three tsp sumsits— exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who— exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who haven't been isis— top pundits who haven't been isis imm— top pundits who haven't been isis smut ts— top pundits who haven't been told what to say— top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't isiisu— told what to say and who don't isiisu ms— told what to say and who don't follow the script.— told what to say and who don't follow the script. tonight sssiui— follow the script. tonight social worker—

follow the script. tonight social worker and political commentator— social worker and political commentator yosef david, a brand sim— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on mark— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on mark dolan tonight. hi, new star on mark dolan tonight. ui vsssi— new star on mark dolan tonight. ui vsssi u— new star on mark dolan tonight. hi, yosef, a journalist and ssiiiissi— hi, yosef, a journalist and political consulting emma sumsii— political consulting emma burnell and— political consulting emma burnell and farmer and former ssmssmuiivs— burnell and farmer and former conservative mp— burnell and farmer and former conservative mp neil parish . conservative mp neil parish. ismism— conservative mp neil parish. ismigm iii— conservative mp neil parish. tonight i'll be— conservative mp neil parish. tonight i'll be asking the pundits— tonight i'll be asking the pundits, would you pay more for ysui— pundits, would you pay more for ysui gisssiiss— pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to _ pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to save the sums— your groceries to save the planet? should - your groceries to save the planet? should bad parkers be suiiisiy— planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed— planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed ? and is sir publicly shamed? and is sir issssi— publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's— publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's son right that sums— roger moore's son right that ismss isms— roger moore's son right that james bond should always be smisms— james bond should always be smisms siss— james bond should always be british? drop me— james bond should always be british? drop me an email misugmsui— british? drop me an email throughout the— british? drop me an email throughout the show, mark at cbnnews.com and this program has a cbnnews.com and this program has s ssissm— cbnnews.com and this program has a ssissm mis.— cbnnews.com and this program has a golden mis. a— cbnnews.com and this program has a golden rule. a very strict sis— a golden rule. a very strict one. we don't— a golden rule. a very strict one. we don't do boring. not on my waist.— one. we don't do boring. not on my must. i— one. we don't do boring. not on my must. i tuss— one. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so my watch. i just won't have it. ss u— my watch. i just won't have it. ss s busy— my watch. i just won't have it. ss s isusy sus— my watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours to come. isi-s— so a busy two hours to come. isi-s simi— so a busy two hours to come. let's start with— so a busy two hours to come. let's start with my big opinion . sm— let's start with my big opinion . on fortunately,— let's start with my big opinion . on fortunately, we're between a . on fortunately, we're between s issu— . on fortunately, we're between s issk ms— . on fortunately, we're between s issk ms u— . on fortunately, we're between a rock and a hard— . on fortunately, we're between a rock and a hard place as a sum— a rock and a hard place as a ssumm .— a rock and a hard place as a ssumtm . ms— a rock and a hard place as a country . the tories are terrible country. the tories are terrible sussiims— country. the tories are terrible ssssiims us— country. the tories are terrible saddling us with— country. the tories are terrible saddling us with a mountain of ism— saddling us with a mountain of

ssisi imm— saddling us with a mountain of debt from their— saddling us with a mountain of debt from their shocking covid ssmsusiism— debt from their shocking covid overreaction when _ debt from their shocking covid overreaction when in power during— overreaction when in power during its— overreaction when in power during the insider us woke tukssvsi— during the insider us woke takeover of— during the insider us woke takeover of our— during the insider us woke takeover of our public institutions- takeover of our public institutions and presiding over smsskims— institutions and presiding over shocking inflation exploding imisissi— shocking inflation exploding interest rates— shocking inflation exploding interest rates and the highest tax interest rates and the highest iss isumsm— interest rates and the highest tax burden in— interest rates and the highest tax burden in 70— interest rates and the highest tax burden in 70 years. but if you— tax burden in 70 years. but if ysu mimi— tax burden in 70 years. but if you think that's— tax burden in 70 years. but if you think that's bad, wait till iuisui— you think that's bad, wait till iuissui ssis— you think that's bad, wait till labour gets in.— you think that's bad, wait till labour gets in. are you telling me labour gets in. are you telling ms mus— labour gets in. are you telling ms mus msy— labour gets in. are you telling me that they will— labour gets in. are you telling me that they will stand firm as summ— me that they will stand firm as sumuk is— me that they will stand firm as sumuk is s— me that they will stand firm as sunak is to the— me that they will stand firm as sunak is to the unions ? sunak is to the unions? miimism— sunak is to the unions? inflation busting wage demands umism— inflation busting wage demands umism usuis— inflation busting wage demands which would bake high prices and iummsi— which would bake high prices and fummsi ism— which would bake high prices and further debt into— which would bake high prices and further debt into the system for yssis— further debt into the system for ysms ts— further debt into the system for ysuts ts ssms— further debt into the system for years to come. the— further debt into the system for years to come. the public sector witt— years to come. the public sector suit is— years to come. the public sector will be expecting— years to come. the public sector will be expecting a— years to come. the public sector will be expecting a bonanza with ssst— will be expecting a bonanza with cost armour at— will be expecting a bonanza with cost armour at number 10. given the cost armour at number 10. given tits tutt— cost armour at number 10. given tits tsst mut— cost armour at number 10. given the fact that his— cost armour at number 10. given the fact that his party is bankrolled_ the fact that his party is bankrolled by- the fact that his party is bankrolled by the aforementioned mt— bankrolled by the aforementioned unions and most— bankrolled by the aforementioned unions and most of the public sssts— unions and most of the public sector are labour's electoral ssmstitusmsy— sector are labour's electoral ssmstitusmsy .— sector are labour's electoral constituency , they want to constituency, they want to smuiuts — constituency, they want to emulate disastrous joe biden's ss—ssiist— emulate disastrous joe biden's so—called inflation reduction act witt— so—called inflation reduction act with s— so—called inflation reduction act with a capital spending sutures— act with a capital spending sutures st— act with a capital spending sutures st us— act with a capital spending splurge of up to £55 billion, smitt—

splurge of up to £55 billion, umism witt— splurge of up to £55 billion, which will sink— splurge of up to £55 billion, which will sink the country turtmsr— which will sink the country further into— which will sink the country further into the— which will sink the country further into the red. well, red is istsur-s— further into the red. well, red is labour's colour— further into the red. well, red is labour's colour after all. as an organisation,— is labour's colour after all. as an organisation, labour have issu— an organisation, labour have been drinking— an organisation, labour have been drinking the net zero tssi—ait— been drinking the net zero kool—aid as— been drinking the net zero kool—aid as well, with plans now for kool—aid as well, with plans now tsr s— kool—aid as well, with plans now tsr s miss— kool—aid as well, with plans now for a 1970s style— kool—aid as well, with plans now for a 1970s style energy company smitt— for a 1970s style energy company umism witt— for a 1970s style energy company which will gamble— for a 1970s style energy company which will gamble taxpayer tiiiisms— which will gamble taxpayer billions on— which will gamble taxpayer billions on flaky renewables . billions on flaky renewables. iisumrmiis— billions on flaky renewables. meanwhile, keir— billions on flaky renewables. meanwhile, keir starmer will not smut— meanwhile, keir starmer will not srmt my— meanwhile, keir starmer will not srmt my ms— meanwhile, keir starmer will not srmt my sus— meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant any new gas or oil iissmsss— grant any new gas or oil iissmsss im— grant any new gas or oil licences in the- grant any new gas or oil licences in the north sea should he licences in the north sea should its sst— licences in the north sea should its est imts— licences in the north sea should he get into power— licences in the north sea should he get into power now. what do you— he get into power now. what do ysu tmimt— he get into power now. what do you think that's— he get into power now. what do you think that's going to do to smsrey— you think that's going to do to smsrey erisss— you think that's going to do to smsrey erisss us— you think that's going to do to energy prices as we rely increasingly— energy prices as we rely increasingly on wind mills that ssstimss— increasingly on wind mills that sometimes turn— increasingly on wind mills that sometimes turn and sometimes ism-t,— sometimes turn and sometimes tsm-t, mt— sometimes turn and sometimes tsm-t, mt sstm— sometimes turn and sometimes don't, and solar panels in a tsmsusiy— don't, and solar panels in a famously overcast country to not sxsisit— famously overcast country to not sxsisit su— famously overcast country to not exploit our own— famously overcast country to not exploit our own natural resources will- exploit our own natural resources will likely see us rsiy— resources will likely see us rsiy sm— resources will likely see us rely on backup— resources will likely see us rely on backup from foreign tyrsmts— rely on backup from foreign tyrmts tits— rely on backup from foreign tyrants like vladimir putin or unscrupulous— tyrants like vladimir putin or unscrupulous regimes like saudi artists— unscrupulous regimes like saudi artists .— unscrupulous regimes like saudi artists must— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia ,iust ts— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia ,just to fill— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia , just to fill the gap . arabia, just to fill the gap. its— arabia, just to fill the gap. its my— arabia, just to fill the gap. its my is— arabia, just to fill the gap. it's my view that the windfall tax it's my view that the windfall tux sm — it's my view that the windfall tux sm smsrey— it's my view that the windfall tax on energy companies make a

ersut— tax on energy companies make a ersut isstiims— tax on energy companies make a great headline, but— tax on energy companies make a great headline, but is a tsrritis— great headline, but is a terrible policy . those companies terrible policy. those companies sms— terrible policy. those companies rms us— terrible policy. those companies who we are currently clobbering witt— who we are currently clobbering uiii simsiy— who we are currently clobbering will simply take— who we are currently clobbering will simply take their investment- will simply take their investment to explore new rsmsustiss— investment to explore new renewables elsewhere . and what renewables elsewhere. and what do renewables elsewhere. and what is iutsur— renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want— renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want to _ renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want to do to these ssmsmsiss— do labour want to do to these companies with— do labour want to do to these companies with whom we are in eurtmsrsmis— companies with whom we are in eurtmsrsmis ts— companies with whom we are in partnership to guarantee future smsrey— partnership to guarantee future smsrey sueeiiss— partnership to guarantee future smsrey sueetiss .— partnership to guarantee future energy supplies , increase those energy supplies, increase those uimttuii— energy supplies, increase those windfall taxes?— energy supplies, increase those windfall taxes? mark my words , windfall taxes? mark my words, tmsy— windfall taxes? mark my words, tirsy witt— windfall taxes? mark my words, tmsy uiii rum— windfall taxes? mark my words, they will run for— windfall taxes? mark my words, they will run for the hills now. yest— they will run for the hills now. is i— they will run for the hills now. is i ssmt— they will run for the hills now. is i trust ts— they will run for the hills now. yes, i want to go— they will run for the hills now. yes, i want to go green and get tmsss— yes, i want to go green and get tmsss seismi— yes, i want to go green and get those carbon emissions down and erssm— those carbon emissions down and erssm smsrey— those carbon emissions down and erssm smsrey is— those carbon emissions down and erssm smsrey is s— those carbon emissions down and green energy is a great estsmtiui— green energy is a great potential opportunity for britain— potential opportunity for britain .— potential opportunity for britain . we— potential opportunity for britain . we lead the world in britain. we lead the world in erssm— britain. we lead the world in erssm tssm— britain. we lead the world in green tech and— britain. we lead the world in green tech and countless jobs ssuit— green tech and countless jobs ssuit ts— green tech and countless jobs could be created,— green tech and countless jobs could be created, but not witmsut— could be created, but not without oil— could be created, but not without oil and gas on our own siss— without oil and gas on our own smss us tits— without oil and gas on our own shores as the ultimate insurance ssiisy— shores as the ultimate insurance esiisy im— shores as the ultimate insurance esiisy in u— shores as the ultimate insurance policy in a dangerous and unpredictable— policy in a dangerous and unpredictable world. energy sssurity— unpredictable world. energy sssurity is— unpredictable world. energy security is national security . security is national security. crazy— security is national security. crazy erssm— security is national security. crazy green policies already titt— crazy green policies already mean that we— crazy green policies already mean that we now have to import struts— mean that we now have to import struts ess— mean that we now have to import struts eus trsm— mean that we now have to import shale gas from joe— mean that we now have to import shale gas from joe biden and the umitst—

shale gas from joe biden and the united states. _ shale gas from joe biden and the united states. when we've got struts— united states. when we've got shale natural— united states. when we've got shale natural gas— united states. when we've got shale natural gas oil. and dare i shale natural gas oil. and dare i say— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it .— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it , ssst— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it , coal on— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it, coal on our own tssrstss— i say it, coal on our own tssrstse us.— i say it, coal on our own doorstep up. make it make sense and doorstep up. make it make sense mt u— doorstep up. make it make sense mt s tuturs— doorstep up. make it make sense and a future labour— doorstep up. make it make sense and a future labour government witt— and a future labour government uitt tats— and a future labour government uitt tuts us— and a future labour government will take us further down the erssm— will take us further down the erssm restit— will take us further down the green rabbit hole . a once green rabbit hole. a once imersssivs— green rabbit hole. a once impressive party under the tsutsrsmis— impressive party under the leadership of— impressive party under the leadership of tony blair who got trimes— leadership of tony blair who got some things wrong, but plenty riemt— some things wrong, but plenty riemt usrs— some things wrong, but plenty right were elected on a message of right were elected on a message st tsu— right were elected on a message st tsu tux— right were elected on a message of low tax social— right were elected on a message of low tax social mobility. and truss— of low tax social mobility. and tirrss ersst— of low tax social mobility. and three great words— of low tax social mobility. and three great words education, stusutism— three great words education, education, education, action. umtsr— education, education, action. under starmer— education, education, action. under starmer it— education, education, action. under starmer it will be spend, sssmt— under starmer it will be spend, sssmt .— under starmer it will be spend, sesmt , sesmt— under starmer it will be spend, spend , spend and— under starmer it will be spend, spend , spend and we will all be spend, spend and we will all be paying— spend, spend and we will all be euyime tits— spend, spend and we will all be paying the price— spend, spend and we will all be paying the price -_ spend, spend and we will all be paying the price . labour wants paying the price. labour wants to paying the price. labour wants ts msrsuss— paying the price. labour wants to increase foreign aid just as srits— to increase foreign aid just as srits strueets— to increase foreign aid just as brits struggle to— to increase foreign aid just as brits struggle to put food on the brits struggle to put food on tits tutts— brits struggle to put food on the table while— brits struggle to put food on the table while sending millions to the table while sending millions ts sutiss— the table while sending millions to countries like— the table while sending millions to countries like india who have tmsir— to countries like india who have tmsir stm— to countries like india who have their own space— to countries like india who have their own space programme . make their own space programme. make it mats— their own space programme. make it mats ssss— their own space programme. make it make sense they're going to eivs— it make sense they're going to eivs tits— it make sense they're going to eiys ms tus— it make sense they're going to give the nhs more money. a pay tiss— give the nhs more money. a pay ts— give the nhs more money. a pay ts sts— give the nhs more money. a pay ts sis .— give the nhs more money. a pay rise to gps , more— give the nhs more money. a pay rise to gps , more nurses, more rise to gps, more nurses, more sstiss— rise to gps, more nurses, more estiss sttissrs— rise to gps, more nurses, more estiss sttissrs .— rise to gps, more nurses, more police officers , more doctors. police officers, more doctors. smst— police officers, more doctors. smut stumst— police officers, more doctors. what planet do— police officers, more doctors. what planet do they live on? tits-s— what planet do they live on?

tms-s esime— what planet do they live on? tms-s esime ts— what planet do they live on? who's going to pay for this? tssy. — who's going to pay for this? tssy. tsu— who's going to pay for this? tusy. vsu umt— who's going to pay for this? easy. you and me, labour are tsssty— easy. you and me, labour are deeply dishonest.— easy. you and me, labour are deeply dishonest. when they sell tmsir— deeply dishonest. when they sell tmsir sesmtime— deeply dishonest. when they sell their spending plans is about a so their spending plans is about a ss sstiss— their spending plans is about a so called non—dom tax rise . so called non—dom tax rise. mat-s— so called non—dom tax rise. imst-s merit.— so called non—dom tax rise. that's right. they- so called non—dom tax rise. that's right. they reckon they sssmt— that's right. they reckon they sesmt utt— that's right. they reckon they can spend all this money on sutis— can spend all this money on public services— can spend all this money on public services based upon the msm—smt — public services based upon the msm—smt tux— public services based upon the non—dom tax rise.— public services based upon the non—dom tax rise. now this is a sim— non—dom tax rise. now this is a stem ts— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber rich— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber rich foreigners sms— plan to clobber rich foreigners tms mats— plan to clobber rich foreigners who make their— plan to clobber rich foreigners who make their home here the msst— who make their home here the msst mut— who make their home here the most that will— who make their home here the most that will achieve is £35 tittism— most that will achieve is £35 tittism. sut— most that will achieve is £35 billion. but it's— most that will achieve is £35 billion. but it's possible that trusty— billion. but it's possible that tursty my— billion. but it's possible that tursty my st— billion. but it's possible that barely any of that will be misst— barely any of that will be raised because- barely any of that will be raised because you might have mstisst— raised because you might have mstisst titt— raised because you might have noticed that these rich people are noticed that these rich people erstty— noticed that these rich people are pretty mobile— noticed that these rich people are pretty mobile people and tmsy— are pretty mobile people and tirsy tss— are pretty mobile people and tmsy tss witt— are pretty mobile people and they too will run— are pretty mobile people and they too will run for the hills. amt— they too will run for the hills. amt tms — they too will run for the hills. and who could— they too will run for the hills. and who could blame them? you've got and who could blame them? you've est ts— and who could blame them? you've est ts sst— and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself— and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself ,_ and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself , do you want got to ask yourself, do you want tmsss— got to ask yourself, do you want tmsss rism — got to ask yourself, do you want these rich people— got to ask yourself, do you want these rich people living in this ssumtry— these rich people living in this ssumtry tuyime— these rich people living in this country buying their rolls—royces here and investing msrs— rolls—royces here and investing msrs si— rolls—royces here and investing msrs sr ts— rolls—royces here and investing msrs sr ts ysu— rolls—royces here and investing here or do you want them doing it im— here or do you want them doing it in dubai — here or do you want them doing it in dubai sr— here or do you want them doing it in dubai or singapore ? i'm it in dubai or singapore? i'm vsry— it in dubai or singapore? i'm vsry sst— it in dubai or singapore? i'm ssry set that— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sad that we— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sad that we live in an umseuut— very sad that we live in an unequal world. _ very sad that we live in an unequal world. but how does rich ssssts— unequal world. but how does rich essets tsuyime— unequal world. but how does rich people leaving britain make us

must— people leaving britain make us rismsr s— people leaving britain make us rismsr s risks— people leaving britain make us richer ? make it— people leaving britain make us richer ? make it make sense ? richer? make it make sense? aeeursmtty— richer? make it make sense? apparently millions are going to come from the— apparently millions are going to come from the regressive policy of come from the regressive policy st turme— come from the regressive policy of taxing private _ come from the regressive policy of taxing private schools , which of taxing private schools, which tits— of taxing private schools, which means the poorest— of taxing private schools, which means the poorest kids will be tsrsst— means the poorest kids will be tsrsst ts— means the poorest kids will be forced to leave _ means the poorest kids will be forced to leave and go into stats— forced to leave and go into state education.— forced to leave and go into state education. any gain from mis— state education. any gain from this tux— state education. any gain from this tax witt— state education. any gain from this tax will be— state education. any gain from this tax will be lost as the stats— this tax will be lost as the stats mus— this tax will be lost as the state has to _ this tax will be lost as the state has to now educate the tits— state has to now educate the tits tms — state has to now educate the kids who leave— state has to now educate the kids who leave the private sssts— kids who leave the private sssts amt— kids who leave the private sector. and we— kids who leave the private sector. and we already don't muss— sector. and we already don't msvs smsuem— sector. and we already don't have enough school places . so have enough school places. so mut— have enough school places. so tmut msums— have enough school places. so that means we'd— have enough school places. so that means we'd have to build more schools— that means we'd have to build more schools as— that means we'd have to build more schools as well . make it more schools as well. make it muts— more schools as well. make it make sense . labour say they will make sense. labour say they will tutumss— make sense. labour say they will tutumss tits— make sense. labour say they will balance the books— make sense. labour say they will balance the books and cost every sstisy— balance the books and cost every estisy surstutty— balance the books and cost every estisy surstutty .— balance the books and cost every policy carefully , but at the policy carefully, but at the tims— policy carefully, but at the same time their proposing free smittsurs— same time their proposing free childcare for— same time their proposing free childcare for under 11 seconds. ms— childcare for under 11 seconds. its mst— childcare for under 11 seconds. its mst ssst— childcare for under 11 seconds. the net cost of— childcare for under 11 seconds. the net cost of which would titsty— the net cost of which would titsty ts — the net cost of which would titsty is its— the net cost of which would likely be £13 billion. how is mut— likely be £13 billion. how is that affordable— likely be £13 billion. how is that affordable right now ? don't that affordable right now? don't tuts— that affordable right now? don't tuts my— that affordable right now? don't tuts my visit— that affordable right now? don't take my word for— that affordable right now? don't take my word for it. the rssesstst — take my word for it. the respected director of the mstituts— respected director of the institute for— respected director of the institute for fiscal studies, tuut— institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson— institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson ,_ institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson , has said paul johnson, has said increasing— paul johnson, has said increasing revenues through stssime— increasing revenues through stssime tux— increasing revenues through closing tax loopholes would be a use— closing tax loopholes would be a trss im— closing tax loopholes would be a trss im tits— closing tax loopholes would be a drop in the ocean— closing tax loopholes would be a drop in the ocean of what is

msstst— drop in the ocean of what is needed under— drop in the ocean of what is needed under the useless tories . urituim— needed under the useless tories . britain already— needed under the useless tories . britain already lives beyond its msums— . britain already lives beyond its means, dining out on the crust— its means, dining out on the trust — its means, dining out on the crack cocaine of— its means, dining out on the crack cocaine of borrowed tittisms. — crack cocaine of borrowed billions. well— crack cocaine of borrowed billions. well now it will only get billions. well now it will only est usrss— billions. well now it will only est it— billions. well now it will only get worse if the _ billions. well now it will only get worse if the other lot gets in. it— get worse if the other lot gets in. it us— get worse if the other lot gets in. it was winston— get worse if the other lot gets in. it was winston churchill who tumsusty— in. it was winston churchill who tumsusty suit,— in. it was winston churchill who famously said, you— in. it was winston churchill who famously said, you cannot tax ysur— famously said, you cannot tax ysur uuy— famously said, you cannot tax ysur uuy ts— famously said, you cannot tax your way to prosperity . well, your way to prosperity. well, umtsr— your way to prosperity. well, umtsr tsir— your way to prosperity. well, under keir starmer , you can look under keir starmer, you can look tsmurt— under keir starmer, you can look tsmurt ts— under keir starmer, you can look forward to five— under keir starmer, you can look forward to five years of just mut— forward to five years of just tmut tux, — forward to five years of just that tax, not— forward to five years of just that tax, not prosperity. when you— that tax, not prosperity. when ysu iss— that tax, not prosperity. when you raise taxes— that tax, not prosperity. when you raise taxes like corporation tax,— you raise taxes like corporation tux, ysu— you raise taxes like corporation tux, ysu sttsm— you raise taxes like corporation tax, you often get— you raise taxes like corporation tax, you often get less in as ssmumsiss— tax, you often get less in as ssmmeiss uss— tax, you often get less in as companies use clever accountants or companies use clever accountants sr smumes— companies use clever accountants sr smumes tmsir— companies use clever accountants or change their headquarters to save money. the— or change their headquarters to save money. the painful truth is mut— save money. the painful truth is tmut tutsur— save money. the painful truth is that labour can— save money. the painful truth is that labour can only bankroll tmsir— that labour can only bankroll tmsir estisy— that labour can only bankroll their policy wish _ that labour can only bankroll their policy wish list from ever miemsr— their policy wish list from ever miemsr tuxss— their policy wish list from ever higher taxes on— their policy wish list from ever higher taxes on all of us, eurtisuturty— higher taxes on all of us, particularly wealth creators . particularly wealth creators. us.— particularly wealth creators. us. usu— particularly wealth creators. us. usu wiry— particularly wealth creators. us. now why is— particularly wealth creators. us. now why is that a problem ? us. now why is that a problem? tistt— us. now why is that a problem? well, because— us. now why is that a problem? well, because when taxes are too item — well, because when taxes are too item it— well, because when taxes are too item it titts— well, because when taxes are too high, it kills investment. it tits— high, it kills investment. it kills aspiration,— high, it kills investment. it kills aspiration, and it stops esssts— kills aspiration, and it stops essets trsm— kills aspiration, and it stops people from buying things . and people from buying things. and for people from buying things. and tsr um— people from buying things. and for an economy— people from buying things. and for an economy based on ssmsumetism— for an economy based on consumption action, that's a ts— consumption action, that's a

ts tits— consumption action, that's a race to the bottom . as britain race to the bottom. as britain witt— race to the bottom. as britain uitt es— race to the bottom. as britain uitt es trsm — race to the bottom. as britain will go from broke to bankrupt umtsr— will go from broke to bankrupt umtsr tsir— will go from broke to bankrupt under keir starmer britain can't uttsrt— under keir starmer britain can't uttsrt u— under keir starmer britain can't afford a labour— under keir starmer britain can't afford a labour government . it afford a labour government. it mutss— afford a labour government. it mutss ms— afford a labour government. it makes no sense— afford a labour government. it makes no sense .— makes no sense. i-vs— makes no sense. is est- makes no sense. i've got to- makes no sense. i've got to say it's very makes no sense.— i've got to say it's very good exercise getting _ i've got to say it's very good exercise getting across the stutis— exercise getting across the stutis tits— exercise getting across the studio like that. look, your rsustism— studio like that. look, your reaction mark@gbnews.uk com tutsur— reaction mark@gbnews.uk com tutsurusutt— reaction mark@gbnews.uk com labour would argue that the isriss— labour would argue that the isriss muss— labour would argue that the tories have destroyed the ssy— tories have destroyed the economy . there was of course liz economy. there was of course liz trusss— economy. there was of course liz truss's disastrous— economy. there was of course liz truss's disastrous mini—budget umt— truss's disastrous mini—budget umt mut— truss's disastrous mini—budget and that frankly— truss's disastrous mini—budget and that frankly they will rescue this _ and that frankly they will rescue this country from its srursmt— rescue this country from its current financial woes. that's mst— current financial woes. that's mst my— current financial woes. that's mst my — current financial woes. that's not my view. but— current financial woes. that's not my view. but what's yours? trum— not my view. but what's yours? iiurt at— not my view. but what's yours? mark at cbnnews.com let's get rsustism— mark at cbnnews.com let's get rsustism ms— mark at cbnnews.com let's get reaction now from _ mark at cbnnews.com let's get reaction now from my top pundits . im— reaction now from my top pundits . i-m tstiemtst— reaction now from my top pundits . i'm delighted to— reaction now from my top pundits . i'm delighted to welcome sssiut— . i'm delighted to welcome social worker— . i'm delighted to welcome social worker and political commentator— social worker and political commentator yosef david, a brand stur— commentator yosef david, a brand stur sm tits— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on the show. welcome, vssst. — new star on the show. welcome, vssst. tis— new star on the show. welcome, vssst. tis utss— new star on the show. welcome, yosef. we also have— new star on the show. welcome, yosef. we also have journalist umt— yosef. we also have journalist umt estitisut— yosef. we also have journalist and political consultant emma turnsti— and political consultant emma burnell. good— and political consultant emma burnell. good friend of the show

umt— burnell. good friend of the show umt umstmsr— burnell. good friend of the show and another good— burnell. good friend of the show and another good friend of the stiss,— and another good friend of the smstt tsrmsr— and another good friend of the show, former and— and another good friend of the show, former and former tory mp usi— show, former and former tory mp usit tumsu— show, former and former tory mp neil parish. emma,— show, former and former tory mp neil parish. emma, let start neil parish. emma, let me start witt— neil parish. emma, let me start with-smum— neil parish. emma, let me start with-britain can't- neil parish. emma, let me start with britain can't afford a with you. britain can't afford a tutsur— with you. britain can't afford a labour_ britain. with you. britain can't afford a. labour—britain can't labour government, britain can't uttsrt— labour government, britain can't uttsrt -muvs— labour government, britain can't uttsrt-muss u— labour government, britain can't afford have a labour afford not to have a labour esysmmsmt— afford not to have a labour government. _ afford not to have a labour government . afford not to have a labour- government. mark-business government. mark any business person will tell you that there is a difference between spending and investment and what we've got at the moment is an awful lot of spending and very little investment and we are spending to deal with the catastrophic crisis that was brought to us through a decade of austerity and then a crisis that was hit harder because we had cut everything. it is absolutely trus— everything. it is absolutely trus mut— everything. it is absolutely true that there _ everything. it is absolutely true that there are- g it is absolutely true that there are certain ways mut— true that there are certain ways that government— true that there are certain ways that government can spend money or that government can spend money sr it— that government can spend money sr it um— that government can spend money or it can invest— that government can spend money or it can invest money and the cases we are looking at how esysmmsmt— cases we are looking at how government decisions impact on srtimury— government decisions impact on srtimury essets— government decisions impact on ordinary people and our budgets and ordinary people and our budgets umt umy— ordinary people and our budgets and any election— ordinary people and our budgets and any election ,_ ordinary people and our budgets and any election , any election and any election, any election is ss— and any election, any election is umt— and any election, any election is one and lost— and any election, any election is one and lost on— and any election, any election is one and lost on the simple eusstism— is one and lost on the simple eusstism sm— is one and lost on the simple question on are— is one and lost on the simple question on are you better off trium— question on are you better off tmum ysu— question on are you better off now than you were last time? and trumtty— now than you were last time? and trumtty, mststy— now than you were last time? and frankly, nobody except the very, vsry—

frankly, nobody except the very, vsry rism — frankly, nobody except the very, ssry rism — frankly, nobody except the very, very rich are saying yes to that eusstism.— very rich are saying yes to that question. well— very rich are saying yes to that question. well neil parish tutsur— question. well neil parish labour will— question. well neil parish labour will invest in the economy. any- labour will invest in the economy. ' "g c�*" labour will invest in the— economy. any keynesian economist will tell you that will boost growth what's not to like? well, i don't like is this tusimsss— well, i don't like is this business that- well, i don't like is this business that you raised is that ysus— business that you raised is that ysus ustuutty— business that you raised is that you're actually going to stop esttime— you're actually going to stop esttime eus— you're actually going to stop esttime eus umt— you're actually going to stop getting gas and oil out of the tsrm— getting gas and oil out of the usrtm ssu— getting gas and oil out of the usrtm ssu .— getting gas and oil out of the north sea . but— getting gas and oil out of the north sea . but yes, build on north sea. but yes, build on erssm— north sea. but yes, build on green policies— north sea. but yes, build on green policies and have let's muss— green policies and have let's have more windmills , wind have more windmills, wind turtimss— have more windmills, wind turbines, let's— have more windmills, wind turbines, let's have more solar , tut— turbines, let's have more solar , tut tst-s— turbines, let's have more solar , but let's actually— turbines, let's have more solar , but let's actually keep imvsstime— , but let's actually keep investing in— , but let's actually keep investing in the north sea and gas— investing in the north sea and eus tsuuss— investing in the north sea and gas because what we can't do is, is svsmieirt— gas because what we can't do is, is overnight. right.— gas because what we can't do is, is overnight. right. go to net amt— is overnight. right. go to net amt ss— is overnight. right. go to net zero. and so therefore, we will msst — zero. and so therefore, we will msst eus— zero. and so therefore, we will msst eus us — zero. and so therefore, we will need gas, we will— zero. and so therefore, we will need gas, we will need oil and msm— need gas, we will need oil and tmsm us— need gas, we will need oil and tmsm us msst— need gas, we will need oil and then we need renewables. and i tmimt— then we need renewables. and i tmimt mut— then we need renewables. and i think that-big— then we need renewables. and i think that big mistake of think that is the big mistake of the think that is the big mistake of tits sturmsr— think that is the big mistake of the starmer regime. i think it usutt— the starmer regime. i think it usutt ts— the starmer regime. i think it would be really— the starmer regime. i think it would be really wrong for the ssy— would be really wrong for the ssy . amt— would be really wrong for the economy . and i— would be really wrong for the economy . and i also think that economy. and i also think that i usm-t— economy. and i also think that i usm-t uerss— economy. and i also think that i don't agree with— economy. and i also think that i don't agree with-i- economy. and i also think that i don't agree with i believe don't agree with emma. i believe mut— don't agree with emma. i believe tmut-is— don't agree with emma. i believe tmut-is u— don't agree with emma. i believe tmut-is u ist— don't agree with emma. i believe that-is a lot of— that there is a lot of investment- that there is a lot of investment going on. there's sssm— investment going on. there's tssm u— investment going on. there's been a-amount- investment going on. there's been a amount of cost and been a huge amount of cost and trusts-s— been a huge amount of cost and tirsrs-s sssm— been a huge amount of cost and there's been the— been a huge amount of cost and there's been the pandemic and trusts— there's been the pandemic and trusts-sssm— there's been the pandemic and there-been the— there's been the pandemic and there been the energy there has been the energy crisis— there has been the energy utt— there has been the energy crisis, all of— there has been the energy crisis, all of these things. but rmsrs— crisis, all of these things. but smsrs i— crisis, all of these things. but smsrs i is— crisis, all of these things. but where i do agree— crisis, all of these things. but where i do agree with her is mut— where i do agree with her is that everybody— where i do agree with her is that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation— that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation is— that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation is high, food

imttutism— off. inflation is high, food inflation is— off. inflation is high, food inflation is high. we will talk utsut— inflation is high. we will talk utsut mut— inflation is high. we will talk about that later— inflation is high. we will talk about that later on. all of tmsss— about that later on. all of those things— about that later on. all of those things affect it. but will tmsy— those things affect it. but will tmsy ustuutty— those things affect it. but will they actually, when they come to put—trusts, — they actually, when they come to put—trusts, witt- they actually, when they come to put _there, will they i put their cross there, will they msssssurity— put their cross there, will they necessarily trust _ put their cross there, will they necessarily trust keir starmer to necessarily trust keir starmer ts ts — necessarily trust keir starmer to do better?— necessarily trust keir starmer to do better? it's— necessarily trust keir starmer to do better? it's a shame that est— to do better? it's a shame that est ts— to do better? it's a shame that we've got to argue, you know , we've got to argue, you know, tits— we've got to argue, you know, tits isriss— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are the— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are the lesser of the svits. — the tories are the lesser of the svits. sut— the tories are the lesser of the svits. uut st— the tories are the lesser of the evils. but of course i used to say— evils. but of course i used to suy smsm— evils. but of course i used to suy umsm i— evils. but of course i used to say when i stood— evils. but of course i used to say when i stood as a tory sumtituts— say when i stood as a tory candidate,-don't- say when i stood as a tory. candidate,-don't-for candidate, they don't vote for us-tmsy— candidate, they don't vote for us-tmsy-us- candidate, they don't vote for. us-they-us because us because they love us because tmsy— us because they love us because tmsy-us— us because they love us because tmsy-us isss— us because they love us because they-us less than- us because they love us because they us less than other they hate us less than the other ist— they hate us less than the other tst. sut— they hate us less than the other tst. but i— they hate us less than the other lot. but i rather— they hate us less than the other lot. but i rather fear this is smut— lot. but i rather fear this is shut tits— lot. but i rather fear this is what this election going what this election is going to be what this election is going to iss—tuss- what this election is going toi ts—tutss ysu. what this election is going to- be_hates you. neil be about. no one hates you. neil parish. ex—politician parish. rockstar ex—politician yosef david, great to have you in the studio and thank you for dressing very, smart dressing up. very, very smart indeed would indeed. listen, labour would argue couldn't possibly do argue they couldn't possibly do argue they couldn't possibly do a worse job with the economy than the tories. i think it's fair to say that the conservatives have of conservatives have a lot of trust to regain on with the british people and we know what we get. when you have a labour essmmsmt— we get. when you have a labour essmmsmt ysu— we get. when you have a labour government, you have— gig when you have a labour government, you have a swollen stuts— government, you have a swollen stuts umt— government, you have a swollen state and spending— government, you have a swollen state and spending that goes tmrsuem— state and spending that goes tmrsuem tiss— state and spending that goes through the roof. this will be ssmesumtst— through the roof. this will be compounded by— through the roof. this will be compounded by a labour government.— compounded by a labour government. but at present, and it sums— government. but at present, and it sums ms— government. but at present, and it euims ms ts— government. but at present, and it pains me to say— government. but at present, and it pains me to say this, the conservative— it pains me to say this, the conservative lives haven't mumuest— conservative lives haven'tj mumuest—tmsy conservative lives haven't- managed _they said managed to do what they said tmsy—ts—

managed to do what they said tmsy—ts ts- managed to do what they said tmsy—ts is im- managed to do what they saidi they—to do in terms they were going to do in terms of they were going to do in terms st rstusime— they were going to do in terms of reducing the— they were going to do in terms of reducing the size of the stuts— of reducing the size of the stuts. ss— of reducing the size of the stuts. ss it— of reducing the size of the state. so it could be if the sstis— state. so it could be if the estts us— state. so it could be if the polls are correct, we will get a tutsur— polls are correct, we will get a labour government and we will see labour government and we will smut— labour government and we will see what happens— labour government and we will see what happens when that comes into see what happens when that comes imts stuy— see what happens when that comes imts etuy. uuyime— see what happens when that comes into play. having said that, i usutt— into play. having said that, i would count— into play. having said that, i would count the— into play. having said that, i would count the social cost of a tutsur— would count the social cost of a labour government— would count the social cost of a labour government as more usrryime— labour government as more usrryime mum— labour government as more worrying than the financial ssst. — worrying than the financial ssst. aru— worrying than the financial cost. and what- worrying than the financial cost. and what do- worrying than the financial cost. 'r: r::::r worrying than the financial cost. worrying than the financial- cost. and what do you mean by social cost? well, i'm from a mimsrity— social cost? well, i'm from a minority community- f f“ well, i'm from a minority community and the way mut— minority community and the way tmut tits— minority community and the way that the labour— minority community and the way that the labour party engages witt— that the labour party engages with itsmtity— that the labour party engages with identity politics risks uittime— with identity politics risks pitting minority communities ueuimst— pitting minority communities ueuimstsusm— pitting minority communities against each other. and for me tmut-s— against each other. and for me that's terrifying— against each other. and for me that's terrifying the way that the that's terrifying the way that tits tutsur— that's terrifying the way that the labour party talks about race actually— the labour party talks about race actually deepens divisions. it race actually deepens divisions. it tsssm-t— race actually deepens divisions. it doesn't build— race actually deepens divisions. it doesn't build camaraderie . it doesn't build camaraderie. mtsrsstme— it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. _ it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. well,- it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. well, look, can britain afford a labour government? neil i'll come back to you very shortly. i've got a brilliant set of pundits tonight. i think you all agree, brilliant set of pundits tonilots i think you all agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to hink you all agree, brilliant set of pundits tonilots to get you all agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to get through. agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to get through. don't but lots to get through. don't forget, 10:00 be dealing forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. she's making statement to the making her statement to the nation. i've preview nation. well, i've got a preview of speech, i'm not of that speech, and i'm not pulling my punches . we're 40 pulling my punches. we're 40 minutes that. you'll minutes away from that. you'll look to that. but look forward to that. but next in big as rowan in the big story, as rowan atkinson feels conned,

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to gb news radio. iwelcome- to gb news radio. iwelcome back. to gb news radio. welcome back to the show. we'll get very shortly. get to your emails very shortly. but time now for the big but it's time now for the big story. and atkinson says story. and rowan atkinson says that a little duped by that he feels a little duped by electric cars and urged motorists to keep using older petrol vehicles to help save the planet . he said advances in planet. he said advances in electric battery design will be of great environmental benefit one day, but that day has yet to dawn . writing in the guardian, dawn. writing in the guardian, the legend , comedian and actor the legend, comedian and actor said that despite only owning one himself, he's got an electric car . our honeymoon with electric car. our honeymoon with electric car. our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an

end.the electric cars is coming to an end. the actor who studied an electrical and electronic engineering degree points out that although evs have zero emissions, when on the road, their actual manufacture, according to research by volvo, suggests green house gas emissions during production are 70% higher than petrol vehicles, in part due to the lithium ion batteries , which require rare batteries, which require rare earth minerals and huge amounts of energy. so was he duped? let's speak to the brilliant broadcaster and motoring journalist, former star of top gear and many other tv hits, quentin willson. quentin great to have you. pleasure to be here. mark. thank you for joining us. was rowan atkinson had , no he's not been duped had no, no he's not been duped and look, i'm a car enthusiast like like like rowan and have owned all these wonderful cars. but i have been driving evs sis— but i have been driving evs zoos.— but i have been driving evs since 2009. i've— but i have been driving evs since 2009. i've got two evs umt— since 2009. i've got two evs umt i— since 2009. i've got two evs now, and i don't— since 2009. i've got two evs now, and i don't feel duped at utt— now, and i don't feel duped at utt. amt— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there are— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there are certain times— all. and there are certain times mut— all. and there are certain things that rowan said in his his things that rowan said in his iris urtists— things that rowan said in his his article .the_ things that rowan said in his his article the guardian, his article in the guardian, smitt— his article in the guardian,

rmism—riemtl his article in the guardian,l which—right with which which aren't right with rssssst— which which aren't right with rssesst umt— which which aren't right with rssesst umt u— which which aren't right with respect and a lot of those times— respect and a lot of those times us— respect and a lot of those things are like,- respect and a lot of those things are like, you know, mytrsesm— things are like, you know, mytrsesm is— things are like, you know, hydrogen is not the panacea that esssts— hydrogen is not the panacea that essets mint— hydrogen is not the panacea that essets tmimt it— hydrogen is not the panacea that people think it is— hydrogen is not the panacea that people think it is because it's vsry— people think it is because it's ssry sesmsis — people think it is because it's very expensive to— people think it is because it's very expensive to produce green iytrsesm— very expensive to produce green mytrsesm. its— very expensive to produce green mytrsesm. it-s ms— very expensive to produce green hydrogen. it's no use making mytrsesm—iti hydrogen. it's no use making. hydrogen—it hasn't hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't usrtsu — hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't usrtsu tsr— hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't worked for toyota. they've more or it. no. and then or less ditched it. no. and then shell or less ditched it. no. and then smstt stssst— or less ditched it. no. and then shell closed all— or less ditched it. no. and then shell closed all their- r: f: c \t:::r and then shell closed all their hydrogen stutisms— shell closed all their hydrogen stations quite— shell closed all their hydrogen stations quite recently. you stations quite recently. and you usm-t— stations quite recently. and you tsm-t-mytrsesm- don't see any hydrogen cars on the don't see any hydrogen cars on tits-smitt— don't see any hydrogen cars on tis-umism-ysu- the road, which gives you a sus.— the road, which gives you a stus. us— the road, which gives you a clue. no manufacturer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icarsifacturer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at:turer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at thetr is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at the moment,| the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at the moment, but hydrogen cars at the moment, but to hydrogen cars at the moment, but ts—rsutty— hydrogen cars at the moment, but ts—rsutty tsu- to have all that really low temperature— to have all that really low temperature pipes and delivery, it just— temperature pipes and delivery, it iust ism-t— temperature pipes and delivery, it just isn't going— temperature pipes and delivery, it just isn't going to happen. so it just isn't going to happen. ss—msstl so electricity is the most utumtumt— so electricity is the most abundant thing we have and it's the abundant thing we have and it's tits smsussst— abundant thing we have and it's the cheapest we've the the cheapest and we've got the infrastructure. _ infrastructure. they're called plugs— infrastructure. they're called etues-tms— infrastructure. they're called plugs-the .that- infrastructure. they're called plugs the that an ev plugs. so the idea that an ev mus— plugs. so the idea that an ev mus tits— plugs. so the idea that an ev mus tits mues— plugs. so the idea that an ev has this huge carbon debt that it mssts— has this huge carbon debt that it mssts ts— has this huge carbon debt that it mssts ts euy— has this huge carbon debt that it needs to pay off and that vstvs— it needs to pay off and that vstvs stuty— it needs to pay off and that volvo study has— it needs to pay off and that volvo study has been widely tstumtst— volvo study has been widely debunked it— volvo study has been widely debunked it and it comes it pays sust— debunked it and it comes it pays but im— debunked it and it comes it pays bust in utsut— debunked it and it comes it pays back in about 16,000 miles. and trusts-s— back in about 16,000 miles. and tirsrs-s sssm— back in about 16,000 miles. and there's been some— back in about 16,000 miles. and there's been some really ssmsturty— there's been some really scholarly peer- there's been some really scholarly peer reviewed research on scholarly peer reviewed research sm tits— scholarly peer reviewed research sm tits .— scholarly peer reviewed research sm tits . amt— scholarly peer reviewed research on this . and don't— scholarly peer reviewed research on this . and don't forget, volvo on this. and don't forget, volvo utss— on this. and don't forget, volvo utss muss— on this. and don't forget, volvo utss muts u— on this. and don't forget, volvo also made a combustion cars. so tmut-s— also made a combustion cars. so tmut-s um— also made a combustion cars. so tmut-s um issus— also made a combustion cars. so that's an issue. yes,— also made a combustion cars. so that's an issue. yes, sure . the that's an issue. yes, sure. the titmium— that's an issue. yes, sure. the titmium umt— that's an issue. yes, sure. the lithium and the— that's an issue. yes, sure. the lithium and the cobalt are rare surm— lithium and the cobalt are rare surtm mstuts— lithium and the cobalt are rare earth metals and— lithium and the cobalt are rare earth metals and they're in rsussmutty— earth metals and they're in reasonably limited supply. the

sxtrustism— reasonably limited supply. the extraction of— reasonably limited supply. the extraction of them involves euits— extraction of them involves euits u— extraction of them involves quite a depletion of human rieirts— quite a depletion of human riemts us— quite a depletion of human rights as well— quite a depletion of human rights as well as natural resources, doesn't it? “iii; at; resources, doesn't it? there are issues with human rights and it's and it's going to run out. isn't that another headache? well, lithium is well, not not really. lithium is pretty abundant— well, not not really. lithium is pretty abundant-it's- well, not not really. lithium isj pretty abundant-it'sithe pretty abundant and it's on the tsttsm— pretty abundant and it's on the bottom-seabed.- pretty abundant and it's on the bottom seabed. and bottom of the seabed. and we usm-t— bottom of the seabed. and we ssmt-must- bottom of the seabed. and we don't much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in the much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in the muchecause we there is in the world because we muvsm-t— there is in the world because we haven't-started— there is in the world because we haven't started looking. haven't really started looking. amt— haven't really started looking. and—batteriesl and can electric car batteries be and can electric car batteries iss—ot— and can electric car batteries be_of course,- be recycled? of course, massively. iwas be recycled? of course, massively. i was in be recycled? of course,- massively. i was in birmingham the massively. i was in birmingham tis-tuy— massively. i was in birmingham tis-tuy-tirm- massively. i was in birmingham the-day-firm called| the other day with a firm called eco the other day with a firm called tss-ums— the other day with a firm called tss-utrs us— the other day with a firm called eco .who are just _ the other day with a firm called eco who are just howling eco bat who are just howling for as eco bat who are just howling for us mumy— eco bat who are just howling for as many-batteries— eco bat who are just howling for as many batteries as right. as many ev batteries as right. so as many ev batteries as right. ss-usu-t— as many ev batteries as right. ss-usu-t es— as many ev batteries as right. so-don't go-landfill. j so they don't go into landfill. nobody's going to take batteries to nobody's going to take batteries ts tumttitt. — nobody's going to take batteries to landfill.-cost_ nobody's going to take batteries to landfill.-cost a- nobody's going to take batteries to landfill. cost a huge to landfill. they cost a huge usumt— to landfill. they cost a huge amount-money- to landfill. they cost a huge. amount-money-can amount of money and they can be rs—smsreisst— amount of money and they can be re—energised_be- re—energised and they can be muss— re—energised and they can be muts imts— re—energised and they can be made into second life batteries for made into second life batteries tsr—stsrues- for static energy storage or smsr— for static energy storage or other batteries— for static energy storage or other batteries electric other batteries for electric- cars. _wonderful cars. so there's that wonderful sirsutur— cars. so there's that wonderful circular economy. _ cars. so there's that wonderful circular economy. recycle circular economy. nobody recycle his circular economy. nobody recycle mis sit— circular economy. nobody recycle iris sit mum— circular economy. nobody recycle his oil mark and— circular economy. nobody recycle his oil mark and also when you tmimt— his oil mark and also when you tmimt msut,— his oil mark and also when you think about, okay,— his oil mark and also when you think about, okay, the energy to muts— think about, okay, the energy to muts um— think about, okay, the energy to make an electric— think about, okay, the energy to make an electric car, it's a lot tut— make an electric car, it's a lot tut tits— make an electric car, it's a lot tut ms smsrey— make an electric car, it's a lot but the energy to— make an electric car, it's a lot but the energy to make a combustion— but the energy to make a combustion car- but the energy to make a combustion car is a lot. and to rstims— combustion car is a lot. and to rstims, trit— combustion car is a lot. and to refine, drill, explore and trumsssrt— refine, drill, explore and transport the _ refine, drill, explore and transport the oil. and nobody tutts— transport the oil. and nobody tutts utsut— transport the oil. and nobody talks about that— transport the oil. and nobody talks about that carbon emissions— talks about that carbon emissions . - talks about that carbon emissions . talks about that carbon emissions. talks about that carbon- emissions . so perhaps there's talks about that carbon— emissions . so perhaps there's an emissions. so perhaps there's an argument to go electric, but couldn't my viewers and listeners hang on to their

diesel estate until it until it basically breaks down? isn't there an argument for keeping your old car rather than buying a new one, which needs to be made? mark scrapping perfectly esst—mutss- made? mark scrapping perfectly esst—mutss msi good combustion cars makes no smvirsmmsmtut— good combustion cars makes no environmental sense at all, and i environmental sense at all, and i ssmetststy— environmental sense at all, and i completely agree— environmental sense at all, and i completely agree with robin on mut— i completely agree with robin on tirut. tsu— i completely agree with robin on that. you know,— i completely agree with robin on that. you know, keep okay. that. you know, keep it, okay. tmsrs— that. you know, keep it, okay. there-emissions- that. you know, keep it, okay. there _emissions ,- that. you know, keep it, okay. there emissions , but there will be emissions, but its— there will be emissions, but its-must— there will be emissions, but it's-much better- there will be emissions, but it's much better to it's much, much better to rseumsss— it's much, much better to repurpose your- it's much, much better to repurpose your old car than to scrup— repurpose your old car than to ssrus it— repurpose your old car than to scrap it completely. so on that, we scrap it completely. so on that, us utsstutsty— scrap it completely. so on that, we absolutely agree . but for we absolutely agree. but for ysur— we absolutely agree. but for ysur isusrs— we absolutely agree. but for your viewers, look, i've been trivime— your viewers, look, i've been driving tmsss— your viewers, look, i've been driving these cars for a long tims. — driving these cars for a long tims. i— driving these cars for a long tims. i i— driving these cars for a long tims. i i ts— driving these cars for a long time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in um— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in um stsstris— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in an electric car— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in an electric car and i have no srsttsms— in an electric car and i have no ersttsms. tits— in an electric car and i have no problems. the batteries aren't. usrs— problems. the batteries aren't. usrs ysu— problems. the batteries aren't. uurs ysu est— problems. the batteries aren't. uurs ysu est us— problems. the batteries aren't. have you got as many- problems. the batteries aren't. have you got as many points on your licence as suella braverman? no. archbishop of canterbury? look you . canterbury? no. look at you. you're an angel. you must be very boring to drive with, so. but they've expired. i'm glad to usur— but they've expired. i'm glad to hear glad. full disclosure. hear it. glad. full disclosure. what about the cost? because i've viewers and listeners i've got viewers and listeners will you're very will think, okay, you're very persuasive, but there's way persuasive, but there's no way i can afford those things. can afford one of those things. they expensive. absolutely. they are expensive. absolutely. but they are expensive. absolutely. uut—tstussm- but the disparity between combustion— but the disparity between combustion and electric is stssime— combustion and electric is stssime .— combustion and electric is stssime . tsu— combustion and electric is closing . you can buy a tesla for

closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. — closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. usut— closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. now, a— closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. now, a second hand, one tiut— £20,000. now, a second hand, one tiut muss— £20,000. now, a second hand, one tiut muvs tust— £20,000. now, a second hand, one fiat have just lopped_ £20,000. now, a second hand, one fiat have just lopped £3,000 off tmsir— fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric— fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric e _ fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric e 500. i've never msum— their electric e 500. i've never msurt ysu— their electric e 500. i've never msurt ysu suy— their electric e 500. i've never heard you say something nice utsut— heard you say something nice utsut u— heard you say something nice utsut u tiut— heard you say something nice about a fiat before. kurtis about a fiat before. well, ysu-rs— about a fiat before. well, you've changed, quentin . no, you've changed, quentin. no, you've changed, quentin. no, you've gone. whoa, hold on. you used to joke about. perish the thought. yeah. and used to joke about. perish the thought . yeah. and the used to joke about. perish the thought. yeah. and the build euutity— thought. yeah. and the build euutity usut— thought. yeah. and the build quality wasn't very- 3 yeah. and the build quality wasn't very good. but it's quality wasn't very good. but its tsttsr— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now .— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now . and look, any it's better now. and look, any car manufacturers— it's better now. and look, any car manufacturers are reducing the car manufacturers are reducing tits stiss— car manufacturers are reducing tits sriss st— car manufacturers are reducing ms eriss st um— car manufacturers are reducing the price of an ev— car manufacturers are reducing the price of an ev is okay with tsun— the price of an ev is okay with me. yeah. yeah.— the price of an ev is okay with me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 stsstris— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 stsstris is— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. _ me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. 25— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. 25 grand. right. amt— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. amt tmut-s— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good .— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good . so they are and that's good. so they are e-vsmss— and that's good. so they are expensive. that's— and that's good. so they are expensive. that's still a whole mitt— expensive. that's still a whole mitt st— expensive. that's still a whole hill of money. _ expensive. that's still a whole hill of money. f hill of money. cheap, cheap to run because you don't have oil changes. haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing at wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing at all,3r and tear, no servicing at all, no servicing, no servicing, top up windscreen washer bottle, up the windscreen washer bottle, rotate the tires in 32,000 miles. i paid £120 for ssmisime. — miles. i paid £120 for servicing. all- i paid £120 for servicing. ” g miles. i paid £120 for- servicing. all right, listen, can you stick around till 11? because i'd like a lift in your. in your ev to get home. i'd love to, because then i will convince you and you will become a convert. all right. there you go. well, look at him. silver tongue devil. quentin. thank you so come

so much forjoining us. do come back us again soon on back and see us again soon on the panel, if you can. my thanks to motoring journalist to the motoring journalist and broadcaster now broadcaster quentin wilson. now big on the international big news on the international stage. sunak off to stage. rishi sunak jets off to america this to meet with america this week to meet with joe trade energy joe biden to talk trade energy into national finance and ukraine. will the trip reaffirm the special relationship or demonstrate it has come to an end, particularly given tensions between joe biden's white house and the british government's approach to brexit? let's head straight to washington now and speak to political commentator foreign policy analyst and former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner . former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner. nile is joe biden , a friend of britain . joe biden, a friend of britain. well, mark, thanks very much for having me on the show today. and i have to say, i think that joe— and i have to say, i think that joe uitsm— and i have to say, i think that iss sitsm is— and i have to say, i think that joe biden is the— and i have to say, i think that joe biden is the most anti uritism— joe biden is the most anti british president of the modern era. he's no friend— british president of the modern era. he's no friend of the umitst— era. he's no friend of the united kingdom. and the british esssts— united kingdom. and the british esssts .— united kingdom. and the british essets . us,— united kingdom. and the british essets . is im— united kingdom. and the british people . he, in fact, started off people. he, in fact, started off as people. he, in fact, started off us erssitsmt— people. he, in fact, started off as president by— people. he, in fact, started off as president by removing a bus to as president by removing a bus ts timstsm— as president by removing a bus to winston churchill from the svut— to winston churchill from the svut omiss— to winston churchill from the oval office just— to winston churchill from the oval office just as barack obama did oval office just as barack obama tit tstsrs— oval office just as barack obama did before him.— oval office just as barack obama did before him. donald trump

trsuemt— did before him. donald trump trsuemt tits— did before him. donald trump brought the bust— did before him. donald trump brought the bust of churchill sust— brought the bust of churchill tust .— brought the bust of churchill tust , tut— brought the bust of churchill back , but biden— brought the bust of churchill back , but biden wasted no time back, but biden wasted no time in back, but biden wasted no time im esttime— back, but biden wasted no time im esttime rit— back, but biden wasted no time in getting rid of— back, but biden wasted no time in getting rid of the chartered tus— in getting rid of the chartered tus umt— in getting rid of the chartered tus umt mut— in getting rid of the chartered bus and that really set the tone for bus and that really set the tone tsr iris— bus and that really set the tone for his presidency.— bus and that really set the tone for his presidency. biden really is um— for his presidency. biden really is an incredibly— for his presidency. biden really is an incredibly left wing erssitsmt— is an incredibly left wing erssitsmt .— is an incredibly left wing president . he's a very woke president. he's a very woke erssitsmt— president. he's a very woke erssitsmt .— president. he's a very woke president . he— president. he's a very woke president . he has no real president. he has no real uttimity— president. he has no real uttimity, i— president. he has no real affinity, i think, for the us—uk ssssiut— affinity, i think, for the us—uk special relationship ship. he mus— special relationship ship. he has lectured— special relationship ship. he has lectured britain on multiple occasions. he's— has lectured britain on multiple occasions. he's threatened srituim— occasions. he's threatened srituim ss— occasions. he's threatened britain over a— occasions. he's threatened britain over a us free trade usut— britain over a us free trade tsut .— britain over a us free trade tsut . us— britain over a us free trade deal . he declined to attend the deal. he declined to attend the times— deal. he declined to attend the king's coronation.— deal. he declined to attend the king's coronation. this is a erssitsmt— king's coronation. this is a president who— king's coronation. this is a president who i— king's coronation. this is a president who i think has diminished— president who i think has diminished actually the eurtmsrsmis— diminished actually the partnership between the us and the partnership between the us and tits ut— partnership between the us and tits ut mus— partnership between the us and the uk has insulted britain on mumy— the uk has insulted britain on many occasions— the uk has insulted britain on many occasions and i think svsrutt— many occasions and i think svsrutt tits— many occasions and i think overall the biden presidency is a overall the biden presidency is ussmststs— overall the biden presidency is a complete disaster not only for the a complete disaster not only for tits umitst— a complete disaster not only for the united states— a complete disaster not only for the united states but also for the united states but also for tits ssssiut— the united states but also for the special relationship and for the special relationship and for tits tiss— the special relationship and for the free world— the special relationship and for the free world as— the special relationship and for the free world as well . ”it; the free world as well. i'm sure trut— the free world as well. i'm sure ttut tisti — the free world as well. i'm sure that rishi sunak would like to restart talks over a trade deal with the us . will that ever with the us. will that ever happen under a democratic president ? well, that's a very president? well, that's a very good question. it's not certain

smstms— good question. it's not certain umstmsr sr— good question. it's not certain whether or not— good question. it's not certain whether or not sunak- g: 2" it's not certain whether or not sunak is going to irsss— whether or not sunak is going to srsss tits— whether or not sunak is going to ersss ms issus— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of a— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of a trade deal witt— press the issue of a trade deal with tits— press the issue of a trade deal with the united— press the issue of a trade deal with the united states. after alli— with the united states. after utt sitsm— with the united states. after all, biden has— with the united states. after all, biden has been very, very mssitumt— all, biden has been very, very mssitumt ts— all, biden has been very, very hesitant to move _ all, biden has been very, very hesitant to move forward with rseurt — hesitant to move forward with rseurt ts — hesitant to move forward with rseurt ts u— hesitant to move forward with regard to a trade— hesitant to move forward with regard to a trade deal. and in us— regard to a trade deal. and in tust .— regard to a trade deal. and in tust , sitsm— regard to a trade deal. and in fact, biden threatened regard to a trade deal. and in fact , biden threatened the fact, biden threatened the umitst— fact, biden threatened the united kingdom over a trade usut— united kingdom over a trade usut ss— united kingdom over a trade deal, over the— united kingdom over a trade deal, over the trade deal issue in rstutism— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to the— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to the northern irstumt— in relation to the northern ireland protocol. so the biden administration— ireland protocol. so the biden administration hasn't necessarily- administration hasn't necessarily sent any warm siemuts— necessarily sent any warm siemuts witt— necessarily sent any warm signals with regard to a us—uk truss— signals with regard to a us—uk truss usut— signals with regard to a us—uk truss tsut .— signals with regard to a us—uk trade deal . sunak, of course, trade deal. sunak, of course, smsutt— trade deal. sunak, of course, smsutt ts— trade deal. sunak, of course, should be pushing the issue strsmety— should be pushing the issue strsmety im— should be pushing the issue strongly in washington . let's strongly in washington. let's it— strongly in washington. let's it tits— strongly in washington. let's see if the prime— strongly in washington. let's see if the prime minister ustuutty— see if the prime minister actually does— see if the prime minister actually does that. but i think the actually does that. but i think ms erssessts— actually does that. but i think the prospects of— actually does that. but i think the prospects of a— actually does that. but i think the prospects of a trade deal tsime— the prospects of a trade deal tsime im— the prospects of a trade deal tsime im etuss— the prospects of a trade deal being in place under a biden administration— being in place under a biden administration are very, very timitst. — administration are very, very timitst. amt— administration are very, very limited. and it— administration are very, very limited. and it would take a itseuttisum— limited. and it would take a republican president, i think, in republican president, i think, im srtsr— republican president, i think, im srtsr ts— republican president, i think, in order to get— republican president, i think, in order to get a— republican president, i think, in order to get a us—uk trade usut— in order to get a us—uk trade tsut utt— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done and— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done and dusted . kurtis deal all done and dusted. well, on deal all done and dusted. well, su ttut— deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject— deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject ,_ deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject , donald trump on that subject, donald trump looks a shoo in to win the republican nomination to run for president . could he win the next

president. could he win the next election in and would donald trump in the white house be good for news britain ? well, i think for news britain? well, i think the republican race for the presidency , he is actually going presidency, he is actually going to be very tight, i think, mark. so it's early days and you know, rrs-tt— so it's early days and you know, us-tt muss— so it's early days and you know, us-tt muvs ts— so it's early days and you know, we'll have to see— so it's early days and you know, we'll have to see what the sutss— we'll have to see what the sutss is. — we'll have to see what the outcome is. certainly donald trump— outcome is. certainly donald trump us— outcome is. certainly donald trump u— outcome is. certainly donald trump was a very strong sueesrtsr— trump was a very strong sueesrtsr st— trump was a very strong supporter of a - trump was a very strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal umsm— supporter of a us—uk trade deal umsm irs— supporter of a us—uk trade deal umsm is us— supporter of a us—uk trade deal when he was president. he was a strsme— when he was president. he was a strsme tustsr— when he was president. he was a strong backer of— when he was president. he was a strong backer of brexit. but at the strong backer of brexit. but at tits sus— strong backer of brexit. but at the same time,— strong backer of brexit. but at the same time, his main seesmsmt— the same time, his main opponent, ron- the same time, his main opponent, ron desantis, governor of opponent, ron desantis, governor st ttsritu— opponent, ron desantis, governor st ttsritu is— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also a— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also a big sueesrtsr— of florida, is also a big sueesrtsr st— of florida, is also a big supporter of brexit. i think the ssssiut— supporter of brexit. i think the special relationship would be vsry— special relationship would be ssry strsme— special relationship would be ssry strsme im— special relationship would be very strong in the hands of any itssuttisum— very strong in the hands of any republican president. if you tsst— republican president. if you tsst ut— republican president. if you look at other— republican president. if you look at other contenders as ustt— look at other contenders as ustt titti— look at other contenders as well, nikki haley, for example, a well, nikki haley, for example, u tie— well, nikki haley, for example, u tie u— well, nikki haley, for example, u tie u tie— well, nikki haley, for example, a big a big backer of brexit, a strsme— a big a big backer of brexit, a strsme sueesrtsr— a big a big backer of brexit, a strong supporter of a us—uk truss— strong supporter of a us—uk truss usut.— strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal. so— strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal. so republicans, trade deal. so the republicans, as trade deal. so the republicans, us u wists,— trade deal. so the republicans, us u wists, i— trade deal. so the republicans, as a whole, i think are very sueesrtivs— as a whole, i think are very sueesrtiys st— as a whole, i think are very supportive of a— as a whole, i think are very supportive of a stronger, more ssusrtut— supportive of a stronger, more powerful relationship with with srsut— powerful relationship with with srsut-tmsy— powerful relationship with with great-they back- powerful relationship with with great they back trade great britain. they back a trade usut. — great britain. they back a trade usut. amt— great britain. they back a trade deal. and .think_ great britain. they back a trade deal. and think that the deal. and so i think that the tuturs— deal. and so i think that the tuturs st— deal. and so i think that the future of the—

deal. and so i think that the future of the special relationship would be very safe in tits— relationship would be very safe in tits mumis— relationship would be very safe in the hands-a— relationship would be very safe in the hands a conservative, in the hands of a conservative, ustivs— in the hands of a conservative, ustivs us— in the hands of a conservative, active us president. but if it's joe tissu— active us president. but if it's joe uiusm im— active us president. but if it's joe biden in office for a second tsrm— joe biden in office for a second tum, msm— joe biden in office for a second tum, tmsm i— joe biden in office for a second term, then i think— joe biden in office for a second term, then i think the outlook for term, then i think the outlook tsr tits— term, then i think the outlook for the special— term, then i think the outlook for the special relationship usutt— for the special relationship usutt ts— for the special relationship would be very— for the special relationship would be very grim. kurtis \t gt; would be very grim. well, nigel, our relationship has always been very special . thank our relationship has always been very special. thank you so much for joining us. my pleasure. forjoining us. my pleasure. iiumy— forjoining us. my pleasure. iiumy mumts— forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . _ forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . my- " g my pleasure. many thanks . .�*i�*iig forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . my thanks there to many thanks. my thanks there to political commentator, foreign policy analyst and us former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner . aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner. much more to come. don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be deaung don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. she's addressing the nation on this morning while i've got an exclusive preview of her speech. and i won't be pulling my punches. where are we? half an hour away from that. you won't want to miss it. but coming up next in the pundits, would you pay next in the pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to save the planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed ? and parkers be publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's son right that james bond should always be british? see you

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playwright as well. don't you know? and farmer and former conservative mp. the very versatile neil parish. and by the way, that tan comes from the united kingdom, not some foreign climb because of course a great farmers are out in the fields working hard , topping up their working hard, topping up their vitamin d now as green levies are set to be imposed next year, shopping bills are expected to rise by £4 billion a year. this will mean household bills will increase by up to £140. some mps are calling for the pm to disregard the nonsensical plans whilst the british retail consortium have warned against them . so would you pay more for them. so would you pay more for your groceries to save the planet? joseph if you could srsvs— planet? joseph if you could srsvs ts— planet? joseph if you could ersys ts ms— planet? joseph if you could prove to me that— , joseph if you could prove to me that current our stustiss— prove to me that current our etustiss us— prove to me that current our plastics are being recycled sttsstivsty— plastics are being recycled effectively and _ plastics are being recycled effectively and that the sacrifices _ effectively and that the sacrifices that we're making are tsime— sacrifices that we're making are doing something,— sacrifices that we're making are doing something, if anything, to sttsst— doing something, if anything, to sttsst tits— doing something, if anything, to offset the emissions from china umt— offset the emissions from china umt imttu— offset the emissions from china umt imtiu umt— offset the emissions from china and india and countries like tits— and india and countries like tits msm— and india and countries like this, then happily , i would i this, then happily, i would i usutt— this, then happily, i would i usutt euy— this, then happily, i would i would pay more— this, then happily, i would i would pay more . cc c

would pay more. but you'll wait for the pigs to fly. exactly but what i would say is , as for the pigs to fly. exactly - but what i would say is , as long but what i would say is, as long as our response— but what i would say is, as long as our response to— but what i would say is, as long as our response to the climate crisis— as our response to the climate crisis umt— as our response to the climate crisis umt i— as our response to the climate crisis umt i is— as our response to the climate crisis and i do believe that trusts— crisis and i do believe that ttsrs is— crisis and i do believe that ttsrs is u— crisis and i do believe that there is a climate crisis that we there is a climate crisis that us msst— there is a climate crisis that us msst ts— there is a climate crisis that we need to respond to as long as it's we need to respond to as long as its sumitivs— we need to respond to as long as it's punitive and— we need to respond to as long as it's punitive and costly, it's mst— it's punitive and costly, it's mst esime— it's punitive and costly, it's mst esime ts— it's punitive and costly, it's not going to be— it's punitive and costly, it's not going to be taken up universally— not going to be taken up universally .— not going to be taken up universally . and the majority of universally. and the majority of the universally. and the majority of ms useututism— universally. and the majority of the population will resent these smumess. — the population will resent these smumess. - — the population will resent these smumess. - amu— the population will resent these changes.- and what- the population will resent these changes. 'r: r::::r the population will resent these changes. ' r: r::::r changes. okay and what do you think, neil? you generally eat food. a farmer. so what's food. you're a farmer. so what's your will your view of what will essentially cost on essentially be a cost on businesses will be passed businesses which will be passed on ? yeah, i mean, on to consumers? yeah, i mean, est— on to consumers? yeah, i mean, est tsst— on to consumers? yeah, i mean, we've got food inflation,- we've got food inflation, muvsm-t— we've got food inflation, muvsm-t us— we've got food inflation, haven't we have nearly which haven't we have nearly 17, which is—tis-vs- is really serious. we've got a trims— is really serious. we've got a prime minister— is really serious. we've got a prime minister who's trying to get prime minister who's trying to est-srisss— prime minister who's trying to get-prices down,- prime minister who's trying to get prices down, cost of get food prices down, cost of erstustism— get food prices down, cost of production is— get food prices down, cost of production is high at the moment tsuuss— production is high at the moment tsuuss item— production is high at the moment because high labour costs, high smsrey— because high labour costs, high smsrey-item— because high labour costs, high smsrey-tiers imput- energy costs or high input ssts — energy costs or high input ssts tsu— energy costs or high input costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i tstt— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i tstt ysu— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i can tell you exactly— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i can tell you exactly the costs. they— can tell you exactly the costs. tmsy us— can tell you exactly the costs. tmsy uis-ssts— can tell you exactly the costs. they are 30% higher than they are 20, 30% higher than tmsy— they are 20, 30% higher than tmsy-ss— they are 20, 30% higher than tmsy-ss umut- they are 20, 30% higher than they so what you're going they were. so what you're going to they were. so what you're going ts ts— they were. so what you're going ts tslysu-rs— they were. so what you're going to do .you're _to, - to do is you're going to, i tmimt— to do is you're going to, i think you've— to do is you're going to, i think you've got to delay these tuxss— think you've got to delay these taxes because _ think you've got to delay these taxes because at— think you've got to delay these taxes because at the moment, umut— taxes because at the moment, umut i— taxes because at the moment, umut i sumt— taxes because at the moment, what i want to— taxes because at the moment, what i want to see— taxes because at the moment, what i want to see a cleaner sist— what i want to see a cleaner sist .— what i want to see a cleaner environment. i— what i want to see a cleaner environment. i want to be smuirime— environment. i want to be chairinglselect- environment. i want to be chairing select committee. chairing a select committee. i tsstst— chairing a select committee. i tsstst ut— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots of— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots of recycling, must— looked at lots of recycling, must st— looked at lots of recycling, must st it— looked at lots of recycling, much of it good. but if we ustuutty—

much of it good. but if we ustuutty esime— much of it good. but if we actually going to heap more cost umsm— actually going to heap more cost when we're trying— actually going to heap more cost when we're trying to drive out tsst— when we're trying to drive out food inflation— when we're trying to drive out food inflation and drive down imttutism— food inflation and drive down inflation, this— food inflation and drive down inflation, this will be the strsme — inflation, this will be the wrong direction. so i think they msst— wrong direction. so i think they msst ts— wrong direction. so i think they msst ts eivs— wrong direction. so i think they need to give it— wrong direction. so i think they need to give it more time and as joseph— need to give it more time and as joseph ate,— need to give it more time and as joseph said, you've— need to give it more time and as joseph said, you've got to make ttut— joseph said, you've got to make sure that these— joseph said, you've got to make sure that these green policies are effective _ sure that these green policies are effective and— sure that these green policies are effective and they are ersesr— are effective and they are proper recycling, not just green uusmime— proper recycling, not just green uusmime umt— proper recycling, not just green uusmime umt u— proper recycling, not just green washing and a lot— proper recycling, not just green washing and a lot of it is green uusmime— washing and a lot of it is green uusmime . — washing and a lot of it is green uusmime . it— washing and a lot of it is green washing . it sounds- washing and a lot of it is green washing . c at; c c washing and a lot of it is green washing . c r:3 c c git washing. it sounds like it's got parallels with covid and the kind of covid theatre we saw being seen to do something . being seen to do something. that's right. a quick word on michael gove because the levy was created when he was environment minister. has he lost plot? ithink environment minister. has he lost plot? i think you see lost the plot? i think you see umsm— lost the plot? i think you see umsm irs— lost the plot? i think you see umsm is us— lost the plot? i think you see when he was driving- , i think you see when he was driving that forward and when he was driving that forward umt ysu— when he was driving that forward umt ysu mut— when he was driving that forward and you had much— when he was driving that forward and you had much lower food imttutism— and you had much lower food inflation and— and you had much lower food inflation and you— and you had much lower food inflation and you needed to do must— inflation and you needed to do much more recycling and i interviewed— much more recycling and i interviewed michael gove on all tmsss— interviewed michael gove on all tmsss estisiss— interviewed michael gove on all these policies, but— interviewed michael gove on all these policies, but i think ysu-tt— these policies, but i think ysu-it tims— these policies, but i think you'll find they don't fit the titt— you'll find they don't fit the bit ms— you'll find they don't fit the bill now literally, because essets— bill now literally, because essets sum-t— bill now literally, because people can't afford them and esssts— people can't afford them and essets us— people can't afford them and people are interesting on green sstisiss— people are interesting on green sstisiss .— people are interesting on green estisiss . imsy— people are interesting on green policies . they love being green, policies. they love being green, not policies. they love being green, mst euits— policies. they love being green, mst euits ss— policies. they love being green, not quite so keen— policies. they love being green, not quite so keen when they need to pay—

not quite so keen when they need ts euy tsr— not quite so keen when they need ts euy tsr it.— not quite so keen when they need ts euy tsr it. amt— not quite so keen when they need to pay for it. and i— not quite so keen when they need to pay for it. and i don't think you— to pay for it. and i don't think ysu su— to pay for it. and i don't think ysu ust— to pay for it. and i don't think you can ask people with a cost of you can ask people with a cost st tivime— you can ask people with a cost of living crisis,— you can ask people with a cost of living crisis, huge food imttutism— of living crisis, huge food inflation to _ of living crisis, huge food inflation to pay for it now and the inflation to pay for it now and tits tims— inflation to pay for it now and tits tims tsr— inflation to pay for it now and the time for a— inflation to pay for it now and the time for a u—turn . : the time for a u—turn. i read tts— the time for a u—turn. i read the stuty— the time for a u—turn. i read the stsry ttut— the time for a u—turn. i read the story that you sent me that this is all based on and the question is who pays for this , question is who pays for this, the local council or the business? right? so ultimately , business? right? so ultimately, lee, you're trying to say that this will be passed on to the consumer, but that is not the case, because ultimately, if we either pay council tax or we pay extra fees for business or for once business goes , you know once business goes, you know what, that £1 billion in profit we made last year is tesco. maybe we could make not 0.999% of profit and change our packaging and just it's a one off thing to change packaging, packaging, change is that once you've done it, you've done it. it's a future investment. you can do that when there's plenty of fat in the business, but there isn't the fat in the

business. well, they made £1 tittism— business. well, they made £1 tittism st— business. well, they made £1 billion of profit— business. well, they made £1 billion of profit last- well, they made £1 billion of profit last year. ttut-s— billion of profit last year. ttut-s suits— billion of profit last year. that's quite a— billion of profit last year. r: but it's that's quite a lot. but it's still a that's quite a lot. but it's stitt u mues— that's quite a lot. but it's still a huge turnover. - r: but it's still a huge turnover. as a suiirrmum— still a huge turnover. as a chairman, i'm— still a huge turnover. as a chairman, i'm telling you, if i ti— chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion,— chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion, i'd— chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy-— was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy- its— was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy- it's no_ was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy. it's no good. you know, its— happy. it's no good. you know, its tits— happy. it's no good. you know, it's like labour— happy. it's no good. you know, it's like labour party policy, you— it's like labour party policy, ysu msu,— it's like labour party policy, ysu msu, tux— it's like labour party policy, you know, tax everybody until the you know, tax everybody until tits—sut- you know, tax everybody until the but everybody the pip squeak. but everybody tisueesurs— the pip squeak. but everybody disappears-same- disappears. the same with tusimsss— disappears. the same with business-is- disappears. the same with business.-is a- disappears. the same with business. is a massive business. tesco is a massive tusimsss— business. tesco is a massive tusimsss im— business. tesco is a massive business. i'm not— business. tesco is a massive business. i'm not going to i'm ssrt— business. i'm not going to i'm ssrt st— business. i'm not going to i'm ssrt st ts— business. i'm not going to i'm sort of to tesco,— business. i'm not going to i'm sort of to tesco, but they, they mst— sort of to tesco, but they, they are not making— sort of to tesco, but they, they are not making money out of food at are not making money out of food ut tiss— are not making money out of food ut tits msmsmt— are not making money out of food at the moment and— are not making money out of food at the moment and that's what i-m — at the moment and that's what i-m usmss— at the moment and that's what i'm worried about.— at the moment and that's what i'm worried about. and i think ysus— i'm worried about. and i think ysus usmss— i'm worried about. and i think you're worried as— i'm worried about. and i think you're worried as well about esssts— you're worried as well about essets muyime— you're worried as well about people having to buy food. so i tmimt— people having to buy food. so i think ttut-s— people having to buy food. so i think that's why— people having to buy food. so i think that's why at this moment in think that's why at this moment is tims,— think that's why at this moment is tims, us— think that's why at this moment in time, we don't— think that's why at this moment in time, we don't i'm going to say— in time, we don't i'm going to suy ssmstmime— in time, we don't i'm going to say something nice to you, ustuutty— say something nice to you, actually, which— say something nice to you, actually, which is that i absolutely— actually, which is that i absolutely believe that we are not absolutely believe that we are mst ersesrty— absolutely believe that we are not properly valuing farmers. tstt— not properly valuing farmers. vsut .— not properly valuing farmers. vsut . our— not properly valuing farmers. yeah . our food— not properly valuing farmers. yeah. our food production process is broken, basically , process is broken, basically, absolutely broken. and we are not, you know , years and years not, you know, years and years and years of cutting farmers to the quick by the supermarket conglomerates has actually damaged our food chain very,

very badly . damaged our food chain very, very badly. but i think that's a separate issue from asking whether private business should pay whether private business should pay for this recycling or local councils through local council tax should pay for the recycle. but again, you see, that's the point i'm making. yeah. i mean, msus— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me to— g yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me to protect the suesrmurtsts. — heaven forbid me to protect the supermarkets. i've— heaven forbid me to protect the supermarkets. i've been at war witt— supermarkets. i've been at war with msm— supermarkets. i've been at war with msm-my— supermarkets. i've been at war with them my life. but but with them all my life. but but ssrisusty— with them all my life. but but ssrisusty, ysu— with them all my life. but but seriously, you know, i think trusts— seriously, you know, i think ttsrs-msmsy- seriously, you know, i think there-money and seriously, you know, i think tithink-money and seriously, you know, i think tithink-counciliey and seriously, you know, i think tithink-council tax and seriously, you know, i think tithink council tax is and i think the council tax is mine— i think the council tax is mime-tits— i think the council tax is rising the time. you see, we rising all the time. you see, we are—now of high- are in a period now of high imttutism— are in a period now of high inflation, high— are in a period now of high inflation, high costs , and inflation, high costs, and ttsrstsrs— inflation, high costs, and therefore that's why i say to you— therefore that's why i say to ysu mst— therefore that's why i say to you not abandon the policies, tut— you not abandon the policies, tut tst-s— you not abandon the policies, tut tst-s eivs— you not abandon the policies, but let's give them a bit more tims,— but let's give them a bit more time, because— but let's give them a bit more time, because i— but let's give them a bit more time, because i think they've got— time, because i think they've est-im— time, because i think they've est-m umt— time, because i think they've got in and people time, because i think they've got-in and people got got a bed in and people have got to got a bed in and people have got tslutts— got a bed in and people have got tslutts ts— got a bed in and people have got to.able to afford— got a bed in and people have got to able to afford them either to be able to afford them either tmrsueis— through council tax. okay. or a tirsty— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer ,_ through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer , a— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer , a lively lively consumer, a lively debate. your debate. what's your view, mark@gbnews.uk k would pay mark@gbnews.uk k would you pay more your groceries save more for your groceries to save the planet ? right. next up, more for your groceries to save the planet? right. next up, this is an interesting story. the police have outed drivers by taking photos of their badly parked cars and sharing the photos on social media as well as issuing fines. so should we out and publicly shame bad

parkers? yosef i think this is a tsrritts— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea .— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea . it— , / i think this is a terrible idea . it smacks of not terrible idea. it smacks of not muvime— terrible idea. it smacks of not muvime ttut— terrible idea. it smacks of not having that because you're a bad tumsu— having that because you're a bad iurtsr. i— having that because you're a bad iurtsr. i um— having that because you're a bad parker. i am, yes.— having that because you're a bad parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smusst— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smusst st— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smacks of not— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smacks of not having an ustuut— it smacks of not having an actual response— it smacks of not having an actual response when you uuttisty— actual response when you publicly shame people, when you usm-t— publicly shame people, when you usm-t muss— publicly shame people, when you don't have legislation or estisiss— don't have legislation or estisiss ts— don't have legislation or policies to provide decent summe— policies to provide decent eurtime sr— policies to provide decent eurtime sr ts— policies to provide decent parking or to penalise those who usm-t— parking or to penalise those who usm-t sum— parking or to penalise those who don't park properly. nine times out don't park properly. nine times sut st— don't park properly. nine times sut st en,— don't park properly. nine times out of ten, when— don't park properly. nine times out of ten, when someone parks teary,— out of ten, when someone parks teary, its— out of ten, when someone parks badly, it's because— out of ten, when someone parks badly, it's because there isn't parking— badly, it's because there isn't eurtime im— badly, it's because there isn't eurtime im tiss— badly, it's because there isn't parking in the area and town stummsrs— parking in the area and town etummsrs umt— parking in the area and town planners and the council need to srsvits— planners and the council need to ersyits parking— planners and the council need to provide parking for— planners and the council need to provide parking for people. this is rust— provide parking for people. this is iust tiss— provide parking for people. this is just the continuation of the war on drivers. _ is just the continuation of the war on drivers. i— is just the continuation of the war on drivers. i think that's a fair point. i think it's also just a demonstration these days, neal just a demonstration these days, neal, of how selfish people have become they they become that when they park, they don't creating don't think about creating enough car. enough space for another car. i'm sure that if we were a estisy— i'm sure that if we were a estisy st— i'm sure that if we were a policy of clobbering bad eurtsrs— policy of clobbering bad eurtsrs, my— policy of clobbering bad parkers, my wife would be the tirst— parkers, my wife would be the tirst ss— parkers, my wife would be the tirst ts — parkers, my wife would be the first one to be— parkers, my wife would be the first one to be caught because sits-s— first one to be caught because sits-s utuuys— first one to be caught because she's always at— first one to be caught because she's always at an— first one to be caught because she's always at an angle. an imtsrsstime— she's always at an angle. an interesting angle. but i think the interesting angle. but i think tis-rsutty— interesting angle. but i think the-really over- interesting angle. but i think the really over is it bad the issue really over is it bad parking— the issue really over is it bad eurtime sr— the issue really over is it bad eurtime sr is— the issue really over is it bad parking or is there not enough parking— parking or is there not enough eurtime s— parking or is there not enough eurtime strs— parking or is there not enough parking ? are they parking in parking? are they parking in ssmststy-s— parking? are they parking in somebody's driveway ? there are

somebody's driveway? there are tittsrsmt— somebody's driveway? there are different times— somebody's driveway? there are different times when you really are different times when you really parking— different times when you really are parking badly. but but i tmimt— are parking badly. but but i think i— are parking badly. but but i think i spent— are parking badly. but but i think i spent early part of my sstitisut— think i spent early part of my political life— think i spent early part of my political life on— think i spent early part of my political life on a— think i spent early part of my political life on a planning ssmmtttss— political life on a planning committee. and the trouble is umsm— committee. and the trouble is umsm i— committee. and the trouble is umsm i usut— committee. and the trouble is when i wasn't lucky me, it was tsrritts— when i wasn't lucky me, it was tsrritts .— when i wasn't lucky me, it was tsrritts . tis— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrible . me but— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrible . me but the thing is, terrible. me but the thing is, you— terrible. me but the thing is, ysu muss— terrible. me but the thing is, ysu muvs mst— terrible. me but the thing is, you have not enough parking with msusime.— you have not enough parking with msusime. amt— you have not enough parking with msusime. amt it— you have not enough parking with housing. and if you— you have not enough parking with housing. and if you if you go sut— housing. and if you if you go sut imts— housing. and if you if you go sut imts ysur— housing. and if you if you go out into your rural areas, stsstris— out into your rural areas, electric cars,— out into your rural areas, electric cars, any sort of cars ysu— electric cars, any sort of cars ysu msst— electric cars, any sort of cars ysu msst suts— electric cars, any sort of cars you need cars and- electric cars, any sort of cars you need cars and the trouble is tmsy— you need cars and the trouble is tmsy us— you need cars and the trouble is tmsy sumss— you need cars and the trouble is they are parked very often in tiss— they are parked very often in tits strsme— they are parked very often in the wrong place,— they are parked very often in the wrong place, not enough parking— the wrong place, not enough eurtime mut— the wrong place, not enough parking that needs to be dealt with. — parking that needs to be dealt with. tis-rs— parking that needs to be dealt with. we're not— parking that needs to be dealt with. we're not you know, if you suit—msst- with. we're not you know, if you suit—msst st- with. we're not you know, if you wait _ most of the i wait for a bus in most of the ursus-i— wait for a bus in most of the areas-i represent- wait for a bus in most of the areas i represent in my areas that i represent in my tits,— areas that i represent in my use, umsm— areas that i represent in my life, when the— areas that i represent in my life, when the came along , life, when the bus came along, it usuttm-t— life, when the bus came along, it wouldn't-going- life, when the bus came along, it wouldn't going where you it wouldn't be going where you sumtss—msut wanted it to go. so you know, you— wanted it to go. so you know, ysu-srivuts- wanted it to go. so you know, you private transport you do need private transport umt— you do need private transport uut-msst— you do need private transport and need somewhere park and you need somewhere to park it—symsutmy- and you need somewhere to park it—symsutisy uitmi it. so i got some sympathy with it, tut— it. so i got some sympathy with it, tut mst— it. so i got some sympathy with it, but not parking— it. so i got some sympathy with it, but not parking in somebody's- it, but not parking in somebody's driveway . ' ”it; it, but not parking in— somebody's driveway . are you somebody's driveway. are you tits— somebody's driveway. are you tits rsrsmy— somebody's driveway. are you like jeremy clarkson that like jeremy clarkson in that tractor yeah, probably tractor of yours? yeah, probably that . that's right. that thing around. that's right. you lamborghini? ihaven't you got a lamborghini? i haven't yet, i see one in you got a lamborghini? i haven't yet,-i-see one in the- yet, but i did see one in the paper— yet, but i did see one in the sues-smsr— yet, but i did see one in the paper-other day.- yet, but i did see one in the paper other day. that paper the other day. that was vsry— paper the other day. that was ssry tsmetime— paper the other day. that was very tempting. listen, very tempting. oh, listen, i usm-t— very tempting. oh, listen, i won't—becausel very tempting. oh, listen, i. won't—because we very tempting. oh, listen, i- won't_because we know won't ask emma, because we know ttut— that women are much better surtsrs— that women are much better purists—immul that women are much better surtsrs—tmmu .i that women are much better- parkers_emma , you're parkers than men. emma, you're a very— parkers than men. emma, you're a very creative person. award winning playwright. all the rest of moore's son has

of it. roger moore's son has said only a british person said that only a british person should play james bond. some suggestion an american could fill the role. your reaction ? fill the role. your reaction? i'm just thinking of the amount of british actors that i've seen playing americans is i'm it's payback time. i'm getting quite tiss— payback time. i'm getting quite tirst st— payback time. i'm getting quite tirst st tiss— payback time. i'm getting quite tired of the you— payback time. i'm getting quite tired of the you have— f c i'm getting quite tired of the you have to be ex to tired of the you have to be ex ts utuy— tired of the you have to be ex ts etuy. tmys— tired of the you have to be ex to play. why? but— tired of the you have to be ex to play. why? but would it have to play. why? but would it have ts ts— to play. why? but would it have ts is u— to play. why? but would it have to be a british— to play. why? but would it have to be a british accent. “iii?" to be a british accent. yeah tss. — to be a british accent. yeah tss. it— to be a british accent. yeah tss. it it— to be a british accent. yeah yes. if it was— to be a british accent. yeah yes. if it was george clooney, would he have to give it the plum, you know? oh god. can they do slightly better— plum, you know? oh god. can they do slightly better than— , critic can they do slightly better than gwyneth tuttrsu-s— do slightly better than gwyneth paltrow's one— do slightly better than gwyneth paltrow's one note british usssmt— paltrow's one note british accent,-it's- paltrow's one note british accent,-it's his- paltrow's one note british accent, it's his majesty's accent, but it's his majesty's sivit. — accent, but it's his majesty's sivit. .tusu— accent, but it's his majesty's civil. .know ,- accent, but it's his majesty's civil. .know , secret- accent, but it's his majesty's- civil. .know , secret service. civil. you know, secret service. it's got to be a brit. it really has. we can't have an american. the mi6 is right now, it should probably be a russian . there probably be a russian. there seems to be they probably speak better english. there seems to better english. there seems to is tits— better english. there seems to is tits turt— better english. there seems to be this dark pleasure- g there seems to be this dark pleasure that some usssts— be this dark pleasure that some essets muss— be this dark pleasure that some essets muss im— be this dark pleasure that some people have in changing sysrytmime— people have in changing everything that's established. tsun— everything that's established. ism—isus- everything that's established. yeah,_has been. yeah, james bond has been smtiss.— yeah, james bond has been british. he's— yeah, james bond has been british. he's known across the visits— british. he's known across the usrttltsime— british. he's known across the world being british. world as being british. let's tsss— world as being british. let's tsss-uuy. - world as being british. let's keep-way. there. world as being british. let's keep way. “iii; world as being british. let's- keep-way. there you go. keep it that way. there you go. quite on. tonight quite right on. tonight let me tell yosef david. oh, yes ,

tell you, yosef david. oh, yes, i know. drinking— / j? r: oh, yes, i know. drinking martinis and smusime— i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. _ i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. ' oily i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. g chasing ladies. absolutely right . smsutt— chasing ladies. absolutely right . smsutt tmsy— chasing ladies. absolutely right . should they decide- chasing ladies. absolutely right . should they decide ? - chasing ladies. ' oily q should they decide ? " . should they decide? in the issus.— . should they decide? in the 19605, casino— . should they decide? in the 1960s, casino royale, there was a whole load of different ones. there you go. listen, i've quite stsurty— there you go. listen, i've quite stsurty tsst— there you go. listen, i've quite clearly lost control— there you go. listen, i've quite clearly lost control of the esststs. — clearly lost control of the esststs. at— clearly lost control of the pockets. at 10:00, i'll be tsutime— pockets. at 10:00, i'll be dealing with— pockets. at 10:00, i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. you dealing with holly willoughby. tsu usm-t— dealing with holly willoughby. you won't want— dealing with holly willoughby. you won't want to miss it. it's going— you won't want to miss it. it's esime ts— you won't want to miss it. it's esime ts ts— you won't want to miss it. it's esime ts ts tss— you won't want to miss it. it's going to be box office telly and my tuts— going to be box office telly and my tuts ut— going to be box office telly and my tuts ut tsm. — going to be box office telly and my take at ten. but next up, i'm tstiettst— my take at ten. but next up, i'm tstieistst ts— my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to-in_ my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to-in the- my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to in the studio, delighted to say in the studio, sstis— delighted to say in the studio, usris sueesrtime— delighted to say in the studio, boris supporting tory mp david utsms— boris supporting tory mp david morris—meets- boris supporting tory mp david morris meets guest morris is my mark meets guest umt— morris is my mark meets guest uut-est— morris is my mark meets guest uut-est suits— morris is my mark meets guest and-got quite the- morris is my mark meets guest and got quite the story .

it's time now for mark meets and tits— it's time now for mark meets and tits svsmime— it's time now for mark meets and this evening the— it's time now for mark meets and this evening the popular and vsry— this evening the popular and ssry ustivs— this evening the popular and very active conservative mp for iisrssumts— very active conservative mp for morecambe and _ very active conservative mp for morecambe and lunesdale david utsms— morecambe and lunesdale david iisrris .— morecambe and lunesdale david iisrris . sutu— morecambe and lunesdale david morris . david, welcome to mark morris. david, welcome to mark ustuu— morris. david, welcome to mark ustum tsmieirt— morris. david, welcome to mark dolan tonight. hi— morris. david, welcome to mark dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. must— dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. tmumt ysu— dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. imumt ysu tsr. — dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. thank you for. well, it's great to thank you for. well, it's great ts muss— thank you for. well, it's great ts muvs ysu— thank you for. well, it's great to have you come— thank you for. well, it's great to have you come in, given up a stunt— to have you come in, given up a stunt st— to have you come in, given up a chunk of-sunday- to have you come in, given up a chunk of sunday evening and chunk of your sunday evening and i

chunk of your sunday evening and i-tmimt— chunk of your sunday evening and i-tmimt ttut— chunk of your sunday evening and i-think that-work- i actually think that mps work vsry— i actually think that mps work ssy-umt— i actually think that mps work vsry-umt-tsme- i actually think that mps work very and long hours very hard and work long hours umt— very hard and work long hours umt tsr— very hard and work long hours umt tsr ysu— very hard and work long hours umt tsr ysu ts— very hard and work long hours and for you to give up your sumtuy— and for you to give up your sumtuy miemt— and for you to give up your sunday night is— and for you to give up your sunday night is very appreciated. look, appreciated. thank you. so look, us-vs-ysu— appreciated. thank you. so look, us-vs-ysu m.— appreciated. thank you. so look, we've-you in. we're- appreciated. thank you. so look, we've you in. we're going we've got you in. we're going to get we've got you in. we're going to est-imssmumt— we've got you in. we're going to get-important-of. get to the important issue of sstitiss—vssl get to the important issue of. politics—yes. but politics in a moment. yes. but you— politics in a moment. yes. but ysu-smss— politics in a moment. yes. but ysu-smss im— politics in a moment. yes. but ysu-smss is u— politics in a moment. yes. but you once in a band politics in a moment. yes. but. you-once in a band-pop you were once in a band with pop sussrstur— you were once in a band with pop superstar .astley. _ you were once in a band with pop superstar astley. now superstar rick astley. now ysus— superstar rick astley. now ysu-rs—tmutl superstar rick astley. now. you're—what went you're a tory mp. what went wrong?— you're a tory mp. what went ursmes-i— you're a tory mp. what went wrong?-i often- you're a tory mp. what went wrong? i often ask myself wrong? well i often ask myself ttut,— wrong? well i often ask myself ear, tut— wrong? well i often ask myself ear, tut i— wrong? well i often ask myself that, but i always— wrong? well i often ask myself that, but i always say, what ursmt— that, but i always say, what ursmt-i— that, but i always say, what ursmt-i isss- that, but i always say, what went-i love-job. went right? i love my job. i actually and i've become an actually do. and i've become an mp 13 years ago and every day is a different day. and i think that's why i still feel fresh to the job for sure. and you know, you are a very accomplished musician and worked musician and you worked with rick astley. so was your music . trus it— so was your music career. was it something that you— career. was it something that ysu ssutt— career. was it something that you could have— career. was it something that you could have pursued ? t/rzi;~3 c you could have pursued? yes, it i— you could have pursued? yes, it i ustuutty— you could have pursued? yes, it was. i actually came— you could have pursued? yes, it was. i actually came out of the music industry when i was about 23, up a chain of 23, 24, and i set up a chain of hairdressing salons. i was a hairdresser before that. i trained to be hairdresser and trained to be a hairdresser and i realised that, you know , i just realised that, you know, in those days, the tail end of the 80s going into the acidosis era, maybe my ship had sailed. so decided then to open up so i decided then to open up a chain of salons, started off with it went big. it's with one and it went big. it's amazing. well, i always think

it's amazing. well, i always think its-ts— amazing. well, i always think its-ts muss— 3 well, i always think it's to have entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's housetave entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's house ofa entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's house of commonsieurs 3 well, i always think it's house of commons because in the house of commons because ttut-s—tsst- that's important that we look uttsr— that's important that we look uttsr smutt— that's important that we look after small businesses. and i usm-t— after small businesses. and i usut-ysur— after small businesses. and i won't your appraisal of won't ask for your appraisal of my won't ask for your appraisal of mil—it- won't ask for your appraisal of my—it tivitssl my barnet because it divides ssimism— my barnet because it divides seimism . — my barnet because it divides opinion . im— my barnet because it divides opinion . i'm well- my barnet because it divides opinion . ”cc ”cc opinion. i'm well retired. i'm glad to hear it. i was i was going— glad to hear it. i was i was esime ts— glad to hear it. i was i was esime ts ust— glad to hear it. i was i was going to ask you- glad to hear it. i was i was going to ask you for- gar: c iwas i was going to ask you for a back me,— going to ask you for a back ssmt, tut— going to ask you for a back comb, but maybe another time. ist-s— comb, but maybe another time. ist-s tutt— comb, but maybe another time. let's talk about— comb, but maybe another time. let's talk about your political career. you pursue a career. why did you pursue a career in politics— career. why did you pursue a career in politics then? i rsutty— career in politics then? i rsutty rust— career in politics then? i really just got- career in politics then? i really just got frustrated about what was going on around me. i'm from leigh originally. leigh in lancashire was born in leigh. i've been in a shipping family, went around world, went all around the world, came back leigh. i saw my town back to leigh. i saw my town going down and down and down and i decided to do something i just decided to do something about it. so i stood for local council and the rest is history . three campaigns later did . three campaigns later i did blackpool in 2001. i did pembrokeshire tenby in 2005 and i got elected in morecambe in 2010. and i remember the time saying, well, you know, this candidate does like a seat by the seaside and i think that was all because of my upbringing. my father was in shipping and we

went all around the world. you travelled the world as a child? i did. i did. did that shape ysur— i did. i did. did that shape ysur utuss— i did. i did. did that shape your values or— i did. i did. did that shape your values or your- r: r: r: r: did that shape your values or your attitudes? i it your values or your attitudes? i-it srstutty— your values or your attitudes? i-it probably did- your values or your attitudes? i-it probably did to- your values or your attitudes? i-it probably did to a- i think it probably did to a large i always large extent. i always considered my home to be the uk , though it , you know, even though it was very at the time, moving very small at the time, moving away, i think was in 68, 69, away, i think it was in 68, 69, we to hong kong. i can we went to hong kong. i can remember various things from back home, but i'm from this mill town and my family was from there. we went back there and yeah, i mean it was home. my parents sorry. my father, he still lives in the area. if you had your way, would boris johnson still be prime minister? i think yes. if i had my way, it would be. i know. what? what went on. and i'll be totally honest with you, you know, for all the good and the bad of it and what came out afterwards is, you know, we were in extraordinary times and, you know, wasn't in number know, i wasn't there in number 10. know what was going 10. i didn't know what was going on. but boris there. he saw on. but boris was there. he saw it. actually the it. and he actually got the investigations on himself. and if you've watching what's if you've been watching what's been recently, he's

been going on recently, he's been going on recently, he's been very open about it. i don't think if boris did do anything wrong, i honestly believe he didn't did. and wrong, i honestly believe he didn't did . and what didn't think he did. and what about at brexit?— didn't think he did. and what about at brexit? what's- r: r: c r: r: and what about at brexit? what's your useruisut— about at brexit? what's your useruisut st— about at brexit? what's your appraisal of how it's going and did appraisal of how it's going and tit ysu— appraisal of how it's going and tit ysu sust— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it in— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it in the first stusss— did you back it in the first etusss i— did you back it in the first place? i didn't. i was a remainer in the first place. but did you vote remain with a heavy heart? were you one of those estitisiumss— heart? were you one of those politicians? that— heart? were you one of those politicians? that-bit. politicians? that was a bit sstit. — politicians? that was a bit setit. i— politicians? that was a bit setit. i wus— politicians? that was a bit split. i was to- politicians? that was a bit split. i was to be- politicians? that was a bit split. i was to be truthful with you. david cameron you. i remember david cameron taking one side and he taking me to one side and he said, , we're going to stay said, look, we're going to stay in eu. do get that. and in the eu. you do get that. and i said it in the i famously said it in the commons. know, you've been i famously said it in the comntots. know, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me know, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and now, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and my', you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and my peoplet been i famously said it in the comnto me and my people ineen good to me and my people in morecambe by morecambe and i'm standing by you . we were a 5050 seat and you. we were a 5050 seat and then as time went on it was evident that it more now it evident that it was more now it was 60 over 40. but bear in mind the biggest employer in my constituency the french constituency is edf, the french government. so you know, at first it was a 5050. then you could see it starting to break away. i do think that away. and i do think that brexit is a success. now i'm on two committees. i'm on the council of and i've just read of europe, and i've just read something the paper something in the paper about that, and i'm also on the ppa, which the parliamentary

which is the parliamentary partnership hope partnership association. i hope i've one right, and i've got that one right, and that's a new one that's been set up to basically do trade between the eu and the uk. up to basically do trade between the eu and the uk . so as you can the eu and the uk. so as you can tell, i'm very busy on interfacing with europe trying to get the best deal forward. and of course we have a tariff tiss— and of course we have a tariff trss truss— and of course we have a tariff free trade deal— and of course we have a tariff free trade deal with europe smism— free trade deal with europe which—theyl free trade deal with europe- which _they neglect which people forget they neglect to which people forget they neglect ts—is— which people forget they neglect ts—isltsut- which people forget they neglect to_isldeal which to mention there is a deal which tmsy— to mention there is a deal which tmsy-uusm-t— to mention there is a deal which they wasn't possible. they they said wasn't possible. they suit—wus- said the backstop was non—negotiable. we got it out. so non—negotiable. we got it out. ss i— non—negotiable. we got it out. ss i usrssmutty— non—negotiable. we got it out. so i personally think that there are so i personally think that there tsu— so i personally think that there are few brexiteers_ so i personally think that there are few brexiteers that need to eivs— are few brexiteers that need to eivs tmsir— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads a— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads a bit of a usttts— give their heads a bit of a wobble when— give their heads a bit of a wobble when they say that it's not wobble when they say that it's mst purs— wobble when they say that it's mst suts-its- wobble when they say that it's not pure-it's not- wobble when they say that it's not pure it's not good not pure enough, it's not good smsueis. — not pure enough, it's not good smsueis. -ysur— not pure enough, it's not good- enough. _your-well, enough. what's your view? well, i enough. what's your view? well, i-usrsr— enough. what's your view? well, i-usrsrlpurist— enough. what's your view? well, i-neverlpurist in- enough. what's your view? well, i-neverlpurist in the- i was never a purist in the sense that, know, i'm sense that, you know, look, i'm a grown have to work with a grown up, we have to work with europe, have to with europe, we have to trade with europe. it's absolute fact. europe. it's an absolute fact. you 40 odd % of our trade you know, 40 odd% of our trade is european. is it a slight is the european. is it a slight tstruyut— is the european. is it a slight betrayal,_those. betrayal, though, for those businesses _ betrayal, though, for those businesses struggling businesses that are struggling witt— businesses that are struggling with-paperwork?- businesses that are struggling with paperwork? and of with the paperwork? and of course , my-and. with the paperwork? and of- course , my-and listeners course, my viewers and listeners in course, my viewers and listeners im-irstumt— course, my viewers and listeners im-irstumt im— course, my viewers and listeners in-ireland in all- in northern ireland in all ismssty— in northern ireland in all honesty, the— in northern ireland in all honesty, the paperwork is too must. — honesty, the paperwork is too must. _wo- honesty, the paperwork is too much. _why the. honesty, the paperwork is too. much. _why the ppa honesty, the paperwork is too- much. _why the ppa was much. and that's why the ppa was set up so that we could interface with europe try and interface with europe to try and sort out. know from my sort that out. i know from my perspective was touring

perspective it was touring arts was reasons why i was was one of the reasons why i was put that that committee and put on that that committee and we're still looking into that and it a minefield, it's and it is a minefield, but it's how is. you see the how the industry is. you see the paperwork side of it doesn't reflect the industry is. reflect how the industry is. to give example, lot of my give you an example, a lot of my good friends who are still touring, they will hire instruments even buy instruments abroad or even buy instruments abroad or even buy instruments and store them abroad so that they can do tours. it's crazy, isn't it? it's bonkers, the whole thing. you the uk national space you are the uk national space champion, former chair of the parliamentary space committee for about a decade. why is space smtsrutism— for about a decade. why is space exploration important?— :f: why is space exploration important? what does it eivs— exploration important? what does it eiys my— exploration important? what does it give my viewers— exploration important? what does it give my viewers and tistsmsrss— it give my viewers and listeners? _ it give my viewers and listeners? kurtis it give my viewers and listeners? ruiz“ it give my viewers and- listeners? well , you know, your listeners? well, you know, your viewers are watching this program now. and somewhere along the way, the signal will be going up in space on a satellite and coming down wherever they are in the uk or even abroad. so that's one example why that's just one example of why space is very important. but of course, telecommunications course, with telecommunications being are don't being as they are now, don't forget satnav, your car forget you, satnav, in your car , that's just another , you know, that's just another example . your calls example. your telephone calls when spain we benefit when your phone spain we benefit from technologies. i

from all those technologies. i couldn't agree. a quick one tstsrs— couldn't agree. a quick one before-back- couldn't agree. a quick one- before-backlelephant before you go back to elephant umt— before you go back to elephant uut—tivime- before you go back to elephant and—living the- and castle, all living the trsum — and castle, all living the dream. lucky— and castle, all living the dream. lucky you . when's dream. lucky you. when's the suts— dream. lucky you. when's the suts-tiss— dream. lucky you. when's the date .the next— dream. lucky you. when's the date the next election and date of the next election and sms— date of the next election and sits uimss — date of the next election and sits uimss i— date of the next election and who wins? i don't- date of the next election and who wins? cit" c date of the next election and who wins? cc?" c c date of the next election and who wins? cit" c c who wins? i don't know. it's the truth of it. would say it's truth of it. i would say it's next i mean, next year. yeah. i mean, obviously we know going to obviously we know it's going to be that spring, summer, be in that spring, summer, autumn . personally, i would say autumn. personally, i would say it's probably time next it's probably this time next year. all right. well, look, sutu— year. all right. well, look, david, thrilled _ year. all right. well, look, david, thrilled to - all right. well, look, david, thrilled to have you in tiss— david, thrilled to have you in tits stutis.— david, thrilled to have you in the studio-catch- david, thrilled to have you in the studio. catch up soon. the studio. we'll catch up soon. my the studio. we'll catch up soon. mil-torv— the studio. we'll catch up soon. try-tsry iii- the studio. we'll catch up soon. my-tory mp david. my thanks to tory mp david iisrris— my thanks to tory mp david iisrris nea— my thanks to tory mp david morris next excited to morris next up, i'm excited to say— morris next up, i'm excited to suy-tsutime— morris next up, i'm excited to say-dealing with- morris next up, i'm excited to say dealing with holly say i'll be dealing with holly trittsuemty— say i'll be dealing with hollyi willoughby—ten. willoughby in my take at ten. tsu—ts— willoughby in my take at ten. tsu—ts miss- willoughby in my take at ten. you—to miss it.- willoughby in my take at ten.| you—to miss it. box you won't want to miss it. box stiss.— you won't want to miss it. box office. telephone— you won't want to miss it. box office. telephone you .

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after the headlines with a purist— after the headlines with a proper presenter, bethany elsey . ttut.— proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank— proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank you. _ proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank you. good evening . i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. the immigration minister says the uk's asylum system is riddled with abuse and that the government must reduce its reliance on hotels to house migrants. it's after protests were held outside a hotel in central london where migrants were asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said it's wrong for migrants to demand better accommodation while their asylum claims are processed . he also said the uk processed. he also said the uk is spending £6 million a day on hotels and that asking migrants to share a room is necessary to get value for taxpayers money. remember, these are migrants who muss— remember, these are migrants who muvs suit— remember, these are migrants who muvs suit tmsy— remember, these are migrants who have said they are— remember, these are migrants who have said they are destitute, tmsy-vs— have said they are destitute, msy-ys suit— have said they are destitute, they've said that they have utsstutsty— they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no trismts— absolutely nowhere to stay, no trismts ms— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family, no money. amt— friends, no family, no money. amt tis— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer—

friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and and the taxpayer is stepping up umt erssitime— and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good euutity— and providing them with good quality accommodation in and issus— quality accommodation in and tsurt umt— quality accommodation in and board and lodgings. quality accommodation in and board and lodgings . and so those board and lodgings. and so those i board and lodgings. and so those itmimt— board and lodgings. and so those itmimt tmsss— board and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong to i think those migrants are wrong ts srstsst— i think those migrants are wrong ts erstsst umt— i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say— i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they tsssrvs— to protest and say that they tsssrvs ts— to protest and say that they deserve to have— to protest and say that they deserve to have single bedrooms witt— deserve to have single bedrooms with sm— deserve to have single bedrooms with sm suits— deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. with en suite bathrooms and so amt— with en suite bathrooms and so amt im— with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense— on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have ssvuitst— common sense seems to have esvuitst im— common sense seems to have prevailed in this— common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. the tumity— prevailed in this case. the tumity st— prevailed in this case. the tumity st u— prevailed in this case. the family of a 71— prevailed in this case. the family of a 71 year old boy who died after being pulled from the sea off bournemouth beach have said they are heartbroken and devastated. joe abbas from southampton and a 12 year old girl named in reports as sunak khan from high wycombe in buckinghamshire. both died in the incident which involved ten swimmers a sightseeing boat named the dorset belle has been impounded by police . a man has impounded by police. a man has been charged after allegedly wearing a shirt to the fa cup final yesterday, which appeared to have an offensive reference to have an offensive reference to the hillsborough disaster. 33 year old james white from warwickshire has been charged with displaying threatening or abusive writing and is expected

to appear at willesden magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool fans died in 1989 at the hillsborough stadium in sheffield . authorities in india sheffield. authorities in india say a signal failure was likely responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades . worst train crash in decades. 275 people were killed in the accident and another 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second passing train . india's second passing train. india's railway board has recommended the investigation be handed over to the country's federal authorities and the duke of sussex will appear at the high court tomorrow to give evidence on the witness stand against the publisher of the daily mirror. prince harry claims around 140 published articles contained information gathered using unlawful methods, including phone hacking. mirror group newspapers is contesting the claims as you're up to date on

jb news. now let's get back to . mark thanks , bethany. welcome to mark thanks, bethany. welcome to mark ustuu— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark sstum tsmiemt— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark sstum tsmieist .— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight. right.— welcome to mark dolan tonight. right. will tax suts— dolan tonight. right. will tax cuts save the— dolan tonight. right. will tax cuts save the tories? i'll be ustime— cuts save the tories? i'll be asking tonight's— cuts save the tories? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, sstitiss— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend,— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend, an widdecombe. and politics legend, an widdecombe. amt is— politics legend, an widdecombe. amt is it— politics legend, an widdecombe. amt is it tims— politics legend, an widdecombe. and is it time to— politics legend, an widdecombe. and is it time to crack down on tisstmimstsr— and is it time to crack down on westminster sex— and is it time to crack down on westminster sex pests? is the wrists— westminster sex pests? is the wists stuss— westminster sex pests? is the wists etuss u— westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant , westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant, a westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant , a knocking whole place a giant, a knocking smsrs— whole place a giant, a knocking smsrs tis— whole place a giant, a knocking smsrs its uuesrs— whole place a giant, a knocking shop? the papers at 1030 with tutt— shop? the papers at 1030 with tutt euutit— shop? the papers at 1030 with full pundit reaction. plus, rrs-tt— full pundit reaction. plus, us-tt muss— full pundit reaction. plus, we'll have tonight's headline, ussss— we'll have tonight's headline, ussss umt— we'll have tonight's headline, heroes and back— we'll have tonight's headline, heroes and back page zeroes. big stsriss— heroes and back page zeroes. big stsriss tie— heroes and back page zeroes. big stories, big guests— heroes and back page zeroes. big stories, big guests and always big stories, big guests and always tie seimisms— stories, big guests and always tie seimisms .— stories, big guests and always big opinions . let's start with big opinions. let's start with my— big opinions. let's start with my tuts— big opinions. let's start with my tuts .— big opinions. let's start with my tuts . at— big opinions. let's start with my take . at ten. _ big opinions. let's start with my take . at ten. forget about my take. at ten. forget about tis— my take. at ten. forget about tis stuts— my take. at ten. forget about the state opening of parliament, the the state opening of parliament, tis time-s— the state opening of parliament, the king's coronation, the fa cup— the king's coronation, the fa sus timut— the king's coronation, the fa sue timut sr— the king's coronation, the fa cup final or the— the king's coronation, the fa cup final or the last night of tis— cup final or the last night of tis srsms— cup final or the last night of tis irsms .— cup final or the last night of the proms . the— cup final or the last night of the proms . the greatest moments the proms. the greatest moments of the proms. the greatest moments st mutismut— the proms. the greatest moments of national importance is upon

us. of national importance is upon stri— of national importance is upon sirt usm— of national importance is upon us. girl next door— of national importance is upon us. girl next door tv star and ssmsrutism— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in a— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in a skirt. holly trittsuemty— corporation in a skirt. holly willoughby will address the mutism— willoughby will address the mutism sm— willoughby will address the nation on her— willoughby will address the nation on her return to the this msmime— nation on her return to the this msrmime sstu— nation on her return to the this morning sofa leaked details to the morning sofa leaked details to tis sum— morning sofa leaked details to the sun newspaper, which read tits— the sun newspaper, which read tits u— the sun newspaper, which read more like a press— the sun newspaper, which read more like a press release say ttut— more like a press release say ttut ustty— more like a press release say that holly willoughby will usssmt— that holly willoughby will usssmt tiss— that holly willoughby will present the show tomorrow and muss— present the show tomorrow and muts u— present the show tomorrow and make a sensitive— present the show tomorrow and make a sensitive and caring sssssm— make a sensitive and caring sesssm smism— make a sensitive and caring speech which addresses the drama of speech which addresses the drama st tis— speech which addresses the drama st tis tust— speech which addresses the drama of the last couple— speech which addresses the drama of the last couple of weeks in stutism— of the last couple of weeks in rstutism ts— of the last couple of weeks in relation to phillip— of the last couple of weeks in relation to phillip schofield uttuir— relation to phillip schofield uttuir witt— relation to phillip schofield affair with a _ relation to phillip schofield affair with a much younger male ssttsueus— affair with a much younger male ssttsueus im— affair with a much younger male colleague in her— affair with a much younger male colleague in her state of the umism— colleague in her state of the union address,— colleague in her state of the union address, which will have the union address, which will have tis usut— union address, which will have tis usrtt sm— union address, which will have the world on the— union address, which will have the world on the edge of its ssut— the world on the edge of its ssut .— the world on the edge of its ssut . sis-s— the world on the edge of its seat . she's expected to seat. she's expected to rsitsruts — seat. she's expected to reiterate the - seat. she's expected to reiterate the fact that she knew mstmime— reiterate the fact that she knew mstmime utsut— reiterate the fact that she knew nothing about this relationship . sis— nothing about this relationship . sis witt— nothing about this relationship . she will expect— nothing about this relationship . she will expect us to believe ttut— . she will expect us to believe ttut sis— . she will expect us to believe ttut sis us— . she will expect us to believe that she was unaware that phil umt— that she was unaware that phil umt tits— that she was unaware that phil umt tmis ysume— that she was unaware that phil and this young lad didn't have a ssssiut— and this young lad didn't have a special connection— and this young lad didn't have a special connection , an even special connection, an even tissues— special connection, an even msueis iss-t— special connection, an even though he'd been working on the erserumms— though he'd been working on the erserumms tsr— though he'd been working on the programme for the— though he'd been working on the programme for the shortest time tstsrs— programme for the shortest time tstss isimime— programme for the shortest time before joining presenters and top before joining presenters and tsu erstussrs— before joining presenters and top producers on stage at the uutismut— top producers on stage at the national television awards in ssts,— national television awards in ssts, sr— national television awards in ssts, sr ttut— national television awards in 2018, or that he— national television awards in 2018, or that he joined senior sssutss— 2018, or that he joined senior executives on— 2018, or that he joined senior

executives on a— 2018, or that he joined senior executives on a luxury champagne tittst— executives on a luxury champagne tittst ssut— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides all— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides all exclusive tstuits— filled boat rides all exclusive details brought— filled boat rides all exclusive details brought to you by the suits— details brought to you by the mail's brilliant— details brought to you by the mail's brilliant katie hind . mail's brilliant katie hind. umut— mail's brilliant katie hind. timut utsut— mail's brilliant katie hind. what about the fact that phil umt— what about the fact that phil umt tits— what about the fact that phil and this younger man dined out tsestmsr— and this younger man dined out together regularly— and this younger man dined out together regularly and this young— together regularly and this ysume mum— together regularly and this young man who is now pulling umts— young man who is now pulling simts im— young man who is now pulling simts is u— young man who is now pulling pints in a northern pub enjoyed a cameo as an elf— pints in a northern pub enjoyed a cameo as an elf on a this msmime— a cameo as an elf on a this morning christmas special. tsrest— morning christmas special. tsrest utsut— morning christmas special. forget about santa. what was in ssmstistt— forget about santa. what was in schofield dad's— forget about santa. what was in schofield dad's sack? look i muvsm-t— schofield dad's sack? look i haven't seen— schofield dad's sack? look i haven't seen holly's speech , haven't seen holly's speech, smism— haven't seen holly's speech, umism is— haven't seen holly's speech, umism is us— haven't seen holly's speech, which is no doubt going to be up tiss— which is no doubt going to be up tiss witt— which is no doubt going to be up there with the _ which is no doubt going to be up there with the gettysburg attsss. — there with the gettysburg address. of _ there with the gettysburg address. of course it will. uirmum— address. of course it will. abraham lincoln, eat your heart sut— abraham lincoln, eat your heart out. churchill's— abraham lincoln, eat your heart out. churchill's wartime radio trsutsusts— out. churchill's wartime radio broadcasts, they— out. churchill's wartime radio broadcasts, they will have that tsvst— broadcasts, they will have that tsvst st— broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas— broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas ,_ broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas , i've got no level of gravitas, i've got no ssuts— level of gravitas, i've got no tsutt. amt— level of gravitas, i've got no doubt. and margaret thatcher's the doubt. and margaret thatcher's tis tuty-s— doubt. and margaret thatcher's its tuty-s mst— doubt. and margaret thatcher's the lady's not for— doubt. and margaret thatcher's the lady's not for turning sssssm— the lady's not for turning sesssis .— the lady's not for turning speech . well,— the lady's not for turning speech . well, let me tell you speech. well, let me tell you ear,— speech. well, let me tell you ear, ustty— speech. well, let me tell you ear, use is— speech. well, let me tell you that, holly is not— speech. well, let me tell you that, holly is not for turning simss— that, holly is not for turning sitisr. amt— that, holly is not for turning either. and she's— that, holly is not for turning either. and she's going to stick to either. and she's going to stick ts isr— either. and she's going to stick ts tsr stsry— either. and she's going to stick ts tsr stsry .— either. and she's going to stick to her story . but— either. and she's going to stick to her story . but i— either. and she's going to stick to her story. but i can give you a to her story. but i can give you u erstty— to her story. but i can give you u erstty esst— to her story. but i can give you a pretty good guess of what it

sit— a pretty good guess of what it sit is,— a pretty good guess of what it sit is, t— a pretty good guess of what it sit is, s sr— a pretty good guess of what it will be, 5 or 10— a pretty good guess of what it will be, 5 or 10 minutes of uttsr— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of uttsr us.— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter bs. how— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter bs. how can i know that so sstts— utter bs. how can i know that so well? because— utter bs. how can i know that so well? because notwithstanding my ssrssmut— well? because notwithstanding my usrssmut symeutmy— well? because notwithstanding my personal sympathy for schofield , tsr— personal sympathy for schofield , tsr umut— personal sympathy for schofield , tsr umut is — personal sympathy for schofield , for what he has— personal sympathy for schofield , for what he has referred to as sstsmtiut— , for what he has referred to as potential suicidal— , for what he has referred to as potential suicidal thoughts, ttut-s— potential suicidal thoughts, ttut-s u— potential suicidal thoughts, ttut-s u usss— potential suicidal thoughts, that's a deep concern and he must— that's a deep concern and he must est— that's a deep concern and he must est help— that's a deep concern and he must get help and support from trismts— must get help and support from trismts umt— must get help and support from trismts umt u— must get help and support from friends and a professional. must get help and support from friends and a professional . all friends and a professional. all but friends and a professional. all tut iris— friends and a professional. all but his rushed— friends and a professional. all but his rushed decision to suttsmty— but his rushed decision to suttsmty ts— but his rushed decision to suddenly do an interview with the suddenly do an interview with tis uss— suddenly do an interview with tis sus umt— suddenly do an interview with the bbc and the— suddenly do an interview with the bbc and the sun struck me as tstut— the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation— the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation ,_ the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation , playing the total desperation, playing the msmsemstiu— total desperation, playing the homophobia card . what the hell? homophobia card. what the hell? uttsr— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish .— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish . if— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish . if this had been utter rubbish. if this had been a utter rubbish. if this had been u muts— utter rubbish. if this had been u muts stur— utter rubbish. if this had been a male star who— utter rubbish. if this had been a male star who met a 15 year stt— a male star who met a 15 year sit eirt— a male star who met a 15 year sit eirt umt— a male star who met a 15 year old girl and was— a male star who met a 15 year old girl and was banging her tutsr— old girl and was banging her tutsr im— old girl and was banging her tutsr im isr— old girl and was banging her later in her teens, let me tell you,— later in her teens, let me tell ysu it— later in her teens, let me tell ysu, it ssuts— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be a— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be a story of epic ursesrtisms— you, it would be a story of epic ersesrtisms. it— you, it would be a story of epic proportions. it would be worse. so proportions. it would be worse. ss i— proportions. it would be worse. ss i ssuts— proportions. it would be worse. so i would humbly suggest that old so i would humbly suggest that sit imit— so i would humbly suggest that sit pitt is— so i would humbly suggest that old phil is an— so i would humbly suggest that old phil is an unreliable uitmsss— old phil is an unreliable witness at— old phil is an unreliable witness at best. he makes oj simsssm— witness at best. he makes oj simpson claims— witness at best. he makes oj simpson claims of innocence look essitivsty— simpson claims of innocence look positively compelling, scoffs smstis— positively compelling, scoffs shields. self—flagellating ssttsst— shields. self—flagellating sobfest left— shields. self—flagellating sobfest left me cold, particularly- sobfest left me cold, particularly when he denied that this particularly when he denied that tits msmime— particularly when he denied that this morning is— particularly when he denied that

this morning is a— particularly when he denied that this morning is a toxic place to usm. — this morning is a toxic place to usm. us— this morning is a toxic place to usm. us suit— this morning is a toxic place to usm. us suit .— this morning is a toxic place to work. he said , it's— this morning is a toxic place to work. he said , it's lovely. we work. he said, it's lovely. we muss— work. he said, it's lovely. we muvs u— work. he said, it's lovely. we have a meeting.— work. he said, it's lovely. we have a meeting. we have a cup of tsu.— have a meeting. we have a cup of tsu. its— have a meeting. we have a cup of tsu. it-s utt— have a meeting. we have a cup of tsu. it-s utt rssy— have a meeting. we have a cup of tea. it's all rosy in— have a meeting. we have a cup of tea. it's all rosy in the eurtsm— tea. it's all rosy in the eurtsm. ss— tea. it's all rosy in the garden. do me a favour for sssrys— garden. do me a favour for ssryss umt— garden. do me a favour for everyone and their grandma knows that everyone and their grandma knows ttut tis— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture on— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture on this morning is tsxis— that the culture on this morning is more toxic than— that the culture on this morning is more toxic than shaun ryder's tivsr— is more toxic than shaun ryder's tivsr .— is more toxic than shaun ryder's tivsr . amt— is more toxic than shaun ryder's tivsr . amt tsr— is more toxic than shaun ryder's liver . and for me,— is more toxic than shaun ryder's liver. and for me, that was schofield's_ liver. and for me, that was schofield's meghan markle moment smsm— schofield's meghan markle moment umsm ss— schofield's meghan markle moment when one obvious— schofield's meghan markle moment when one obvious untruth denying how when one obvious untruth denying msu musty— when one obvious untruth denying msu musty tis— when one obvious untruth denying how nasty the atmosphere on that stsu— how nasty the atmosphere on that smsu stsurty— how nasty the atmosphere on that smsu stsurty is— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is .— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is . ask— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is . ask dr. ranj , show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, smism— show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, which causes— show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, which causes everything else he suit. — which causes everything else he suit. is— which causes everything else he said. to collapse— which causes everything else he said. to collapse like a house of said. to collapse like a house st suits— said. to collapse like a house st surts .— said. to collapse like a house of cards. how— said. to collapse like a house of cards . how convenient that of cards. how convenient that smstiss— of cards. how convenient that schofield should— of cards. how convenient that schofield should be photographed this schofield should be photographed tits msmime— schofield should be photographed tits msrmime im— schofield should be photographed this morning in the company of his this morning in the company of tis sue— this morning in the company of his long suffering— this morning in the company of his long suffering and dear old . its— his long suffering and dear old mum . it's almost— his long suffering and dear old mum . it's almost like that photo mum. it's almost like that photo urrumest— mum. it's almost like that photo was arranged to— mum. it's almost like that photo was arranged to further imbue the was arranged to further imbue tis suttis— was arranged to further imbue the public sympathy for poor imit — the public sympathy for poor imit visit— the public sympathy for poor phil. well, it— the public sympathy for poor phil. well, it won't work . the phil. well, it won't work. the suttis— phil. well, it won't work. the euttis usut— phil. well, it won't work. the public aren't buying this and i usm-t— public aren't buying this and i usm-t tittst— public aren't buying this and i don't think they'll buy willoughby's. i knew nothing. act tomorrow— willoughby's. i knew nothing. act tomorrow morning, whatever she act tomorrow morning, whatever sis tit— act tomorrow morning, whatever sis tit sr— act tomorrow morning, whatever she did or didn't— act tomorrow morning, whatever she did or didn't know about her

ssttsueuss— she did or didn't know about her ssttsueuss .— she did or didn't know about her colleagues . close— she did or didn't know about her colleagues . close friendship colleagues. close friendship witt— colleagues. close friendship with tits— colleagues. close friendship with this young— colleagues. close friendship with this young man. anybody ssuts— with this young man. anybody ssutt sss— with this young man. anybody could see that— with this young man. anybody could see that there was a clear ussst— could see that there was a clear power imbalance— could see that there was a clear power imbalance in that relationship.— power imbalance in that relationship. and i'm horrified ttut— relationship. and i'm horrified that schofield _ relationship. and i'm horrified that schofield reported he must— that schofield reported he abused that— that schofield reported he abused that power on itv property— abused that power on itv ersesrty us— abused that power on itv property as poor old gyles srumtrstm— property as poor old gyles brandreth sipped his horlicks in the brandreth sipped his horlicks in tis trsssime— brandreth sipped his horlicks in the dressing room— brandreth sipped his horlicks in the dressing room next door. ssutt— the dressing room next door. ssutt muss— the dressing room next door. could have given him a heart uttust— could have given him a heart attack tomorrow.— could have given him a heart attack tomorrow. holly trittsuemty— attack tomorrow. holly willoughby will demonstrate what itv willoughby will demonstrate what itv tssss— willoughby will demonstrate what itv bosses already— willoughby will demonstrate what itv bosses already think of the british— itv bosses already think of the british public— itv bosses already think of the british public that you're stusit— british public that you're stueit umt— british public that you're stupid and that they can spin vou— stupid and that they can spin ysu umy— stupid and that they can spin ysu umy stt— stupid and that they can spin ysu umy sit yum— stupid and that they can spin you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i usm-t— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think so.— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think so. schofield is tumuest— it. i don't think so. schofield is damaged this— it. i don't think so. schofield is damaged this morning. is tumuest. — is damaged this morning. is tumuest. itv— is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is— is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is damaged. is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is damaged . and i'm damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm utruit— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm utruit ts— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm utruit ts suy— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm afraid to say holly— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm afraid to say holly willoughby is tumuest— afraid to say holly willoughby is tumuest ts— afraid to say holly willoughby is damaged to how damaged? well, rrs-tt— is damaged to how damaged? well, us-tt muss— is damaged to how damaged? well, us-tt muvs ts— is damaged to how damaged? well, we'll have to wait— is damaged to how damaged? well, we'll have to wait and see. but i-m — we'll have to wait and see. but i-m ssmy— we'll have to wait and see. but is ssmy, rsits— we'll have to wait and see. but i'm sorry, folks. the halo has stieest— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has stieest tsr— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has slipped for little— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has slipped for little miss perfect. sis— slipped for little miss perfect. sis mists— slipped for little miss perfect. she thinks her— slipped for little miss perfect. she thinks her speech will be the she thinks her speech will be tis tust— she thinks her speech will be the last word— she thinks her speech will be the last word on— she thinks her speech will be the last word on this issue. but let the last word on this issue. but tst ms— the last word on this issue. but tst ms tstt— the last word on this issue. but let me tell you,— the last word on this issue. but let me tell you, it's only begun

. ssut— let me tell you, it's only begun . your reaction— let me tell you, it's only begun . your reaction market gb news.com , holly willoughby would news.com, holly willoughby would ureus— news.com, holly willoughby would ureus umt— news.com, holly willoughby would ureus umt sis-s— news.com, holly willoughby would argue and she's been very clear ttut— argue and she's been very clear ttut sis— argue and she's been very clear that she knew— argue and she's been very clear that she knew nothing about this rstutismsiriu— that she knew nothing about this relationship. she— that she knew nothing about this relationship. she was absolutely srystut— relationship. she was absolutely srystut stsur— relationship. she was absolutely crystal clear in— relationship. she was absolutely crystal clear in statement after stutsmsmt— crystal clear in statement after stutsmsmt .— crystal clear in statement after statement . she— crystal clear in statement after statement . she did not know . statement. she did not know. sis-s— statement. she did not know. sis-s ssry— statement. she did not know. she's very upset.— statement. she did not know. she's very upset. phillip schofield— she's very upset. phillip schofield has— she's very upset. phillip schofield has apologised because he schofield has apologised because is suit— schofield has apologised because is suit is— schofield has apologised because he said he lied— schofield has apologised because he said he lied to— schofield has apologised because he said he lied to her, he lied to he said he lied to her, he lied ts itv— he said he lied to her, he lied ts itv .— he said he lied to her, he lied ts itv . ss— he said he lied to her, he lied to itv . so that's— he said he lied to her, he lied to itv . so that's the other side to itv. so that's the other side of to itv. so that's the other side st tis— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument .— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument . what's your of the argument. what's your ysus— of the argument. what's your view? margaret— of the argument. what's your view? margaret gb news .com, as i view? margaret gb news .com, as i suy— view? margaret gb news .com, as i suy, is— view? margaret gb news .com, as i suy, is tis— view? margaret gb news .com, as i say, is the address— view? margaret gb news .com, as i say, is the address reacting to i say, is the address reacting ts ttut— i say, is the address reacting ts ttut is— i say, is the address reacting ts ttut is my— i say, is the address reacting to that is my top— i say, is the address reacting to that is my top pundits tsmieirt— to that is my top pundits tonight, social- to that is my top pundits tonight, social worker and estitisut— tonight, social worker and political commentator , a brand political commentator, a brand stur— political commentator, a brand new star on mark— political commentator, a brand new star on mark dolan tonight ssst— new star on mark dolan tonight vssst suit,— new star on mark dolan tonight yosef david, journalist and estitisut— yosef david, journalist and political consultant emma sumstt— political consultant emma burnell and— political consultant emma burnell and farmer and former tsry— burnell and farmer and former tsry iii— burnell and farmer and former tsry iii tstt— burnell and farmer and former tory mp neil parish yosef , over tory mp neil parish yosef, over to tory mp neil parish yosef, over ts ysu— tory mp neil parish yosef, over ts ysu . — tory mp neil parish yosef, over ts ysu . must— tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . thank you.- tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . thank you. i- tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . “as." tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . 'new to you. thank you. i have to say that i am more than a little miffed with just how much attention in this circus has received over the last few weeks. i don't hold any bone out for phillip schofield or holly willoughby with regard to what looks like a cover up . but we

looks like a cover up. but we have to ask questions of us as a society if we are prepared to talk ad nauseum about the downfall of a celebrity who we might say has. there's been that there's been a cover up with regard to child abuse, possibly and grooming. but but actually nationally speaking, every day, children are abused and groomed. and we don't have the same zeal or or interest to follow these stories. and it makes me wonder, are we still a serious country that we that we can follow, that we can follow ? what is a showbiz we can follow? what is a showbiz story? yes it's very serious, but i don't think any laws were broken and really, we need some national perspective on this. well, i think it's very fair ttut— well, i think it's very fair tmut ysus— well, i think it's very fair that you've said that. and we witt— that you've said that. and we sit ts— that you've said that. and we will be abundantly clear. there is zero evidence— will be abundantly clear. there is zero evidence that anything ttut— is zero evidence that anything ttut imittis— is zero evidence that anything that phillip schofield did was ueuimst— that phillip schofield did was ueuimst-tuu.— that phillip schofield did was against-law. he- that phillip schofield did was against law. he called it

against the law. he called it tut— against the law. he called it unwise but not— against the law. he called it unwise but not illegal . against the law. he called it unwise but not illegal. neil and ysus— unwise but not illegal. neil and you're absolutely— unwise but not illegal. neil and you're absolutely right, yosef , you're absolutely right, yosef, ttut— you're absolutely right, yosef, ttut tiss— you're absolutely right, yosef, that there are _ you're absolutely right, yosef, that there are some serious sut— that there are some serious crimes out there. but i would ureus— crimes out there. but i would ureus i— crimes out there. but i would ureus i ssutt— crimes out there. but i would argue i would argue that ustuutty— argue i would argue that ustuutty it— argue i would argue that actually it raises the issue of immu— actually it raises the issue of tmmu um— actually it raises the issue of emma an imbalance in power. this is a emma an imbalance in power. this is u usuttmy— emma an imbalance in power. this is a wealthy older— emma an imbalance in power. this is a wealthy older guy who's on tv is a wealthy older guy who's on tv svsry— is a wealthy older guy who's on iv sysry suy— is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every day with— is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every day with an impressionable, impressionable ysumestsr— impressionable, impressionable ysumestsr .— impressionable, impressionable youngster . that's— impressionable, impressionable youngster. that's why this is a ssumtut— youngster. that's why this is a ssumtut .— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and he's— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and he's a national scandal. and he's a national tieurs— scandal. and he's a national tieurs. amt— scandal. and he's a national figure. and that's why it's a stsry— figure. and that's why it's a stsry . — figure. and that's why it's a stsry . uss— figure. and that's why it's a stsry . us-s u— figure. and that's why it's a story . it; �*" g "t; story. he's a national figure. and that's why it's a story. there is an imbalance of power and that's why it's a problem . i and that's why it's a problem. i i go back and forth on this story a lot . mostly, i wonder story a lot. mostly, i wonder just as as you have , why we're just as as you have, why we're spending so much time on it when in no crime seems to have been committed. there is a workplace scandal and it's a workplace that's in the public view . but that's in the public view. but workplace scandals happen

regularly. and my worry is that instead of trying to think a lot more sensibly and a lot more nuanced about the fact that people's thrown together for eight hours, ten hours, 12 hours a day, often in television , are a day, often in television, are likely to fall in love. and how you manage that when those two people might be of very , very people might be of very, very different stature within that workplace . s rather than just workplace. s rather than just going very salaciously into what phillip schofield did and didn't do with a younger man and, and randomly going all lady macbeth on holly willoughby okay. i mean i think the issue is that neil pafish i think the issue is that neil parish that presenters are like politicians. they parish that presenters are like politicians . they are politicians. they are accountable - c it. they are accountable public figures. politicians. they are— accountable public figures. they imts— accountable public figures. they imts su— accountable public figures. they come into our living room every suy— come into our living room every tuy viu— come into our living room every tuy viu tis— come into our living room every day via the television an and tmsy-vs— day via the television an and msy-ys est— day via the television an and msy-ys est ts— day via the television an and they've got to be— day via the television an and they've got to be held to usssut— they've got to be held to account for— they've got to be held to account for their actions . t/rzi;~3 account for their actions. yes i i— account for their actions. yes i i mirt— account for their actions. yes i mean i think phillip schofield did the right thing by resign

thing. i actually think that prolonging this story is just prolonging this story is just prolonging his agony. he was wrong what he did. but you've got to give the guy he's he's got to give the guy he's he's got to give him space now. he's got to give him space now. he's got to give him space now. he's got to get on with his life. neil by the way, neil, can you look at the camera? because we want to look at the camera? because we trust ts — look at the camera? because we trust ts ysur— f“ because we want to see your gorgeous face. ssmy— want to see your gorgeous face. ssmy tst— want to see your gorgeous face. ssmy ist ms— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry let me tell— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry let me tell you. look ursmt— sorry let me tell you. look around—will. around. right. emma will show ysu.— around. right. emma will show ysu—.— around. right. emma will show ysu.—. smty- around. right. emma will show. you._. only because around. right. emma will show you. your . only because around. right. emma will show you. your best . only because around. right. emma will show you. your best side)nly because around. right. emma will show you. your best side . 1 because around. right. emma will show you. your best side . use that's your best side. sorry, i tsstme. — that's your best side. sorry, i tsstme. i— that's your best side. sorry, i was looking. i was looking at the wrong camera. sorry, mark. that's all right. we just need to understand— that's all right. we just need to understand .— that's all right. we just need to understand . the schofield is to understand. the schofield is a to understand. the schofield is u mutismut— to understand. the schofield is a national celebrity . he's done a national celebrity. he's done an a national celebrity. he's done um imtsrvisu— a national celebrity. he's done an interview with— a national celebrity. he's done an interview with the bbc in the sum— an interview with the bbc in the sum im— an interview with the bbc in the sum in wrist— an interview with the bbc in the sun in which he's— an interview with the bbc in the sun in which he's claimed msmsemstss— sun in which he's claimed homophobes idea, which is nonsense because if it had been a nonsense because if it had been uysume— nonsense because if it had been uysume eirt— nonsense because if it had been uysume eirt mut— nonsense because if it had been a young girl that was the person he a young girl that was the person is must— a young girl that was the person is tut u— a young girl that was the person he had a relationship with . it he had a relationship with. it erstutty— he had a relationship with. it probably-have- he had a relationship with. it probably have been worse. probably would have been worse. and probably would have been worse. amt-mss— probably would have been worse. and more outrageous. and even more outrageous. so iss-s— and even more outrageous. so its-s strsme— and even more outrageous. so its-s strsme ts— and even more outrageous. so he's wrong to call— and even more outrageous. so he's wrong to call out homophobia- he's wrong to call out homophobia and also so he just stuims— homophobia and also so he just stuims ttut— homophobia and also so he just claims that somehow he's the vistim — claims that somehow he's the vistim im— claims that somehow he's the vistim im utt— claims that somehow he's the victim in all of— claims that somehow he's the victim in all of this. schofield is us— victim in all of this. schofield is us vistim— victim in all of this. schofield is no victim. _ victim in all of this. schofield is no victim . no,— victim in all of this. schofield is no victim. no, i- victim in all of this. schofield is no victim . \:::r is no victim. no, i think i think he has got to face up to

his responsibilities and whatever mistakes you make in life , you have got to face up to life, you have got to face up to it. and i think he, by sort of prolonging this and prolonging the argument on the bbc, he's actually doing himself no good at all because he's actually got to accept that he's resigned and accept that he's left. and actually get on with his life in another direction . well, it was another direction. well, it was wrong he and he has wrong what he did. and he has resigned. lied. yes and he's resigned. he lied. yes and he's admitted it. but to keep bringing it up again in the end, you'll find psychologically that he's doing himself no good . and he's doing himself no good. and i think, you know, all this debate and tomorrow's interview will just hype it all up again and it becomes just a great media story. but unfortunately , media story. but unfortunately, there are people involved , the there are people involved, the young man as well as philip schofield. all right. i think there is a real problem here if we keep it going. and listen, you we keep it going. and listen, ysu msu,— we keep it going. and listen, ysu msu, im— we keep it going. and listen, you know, i'm always- c git nrg and listen, you know, i'm always straight witt— you know, i'm always straight with my— you know, i'm always straight with my viewers— you know, i'm always straight with my viewers and listeners. if i with my viewers and listeners. it i us— with my viewers and listeners. it i ttseeime— with my viewers and listeners. if i was flogging a dead horse, i'd if i was flogging a dead horse, i-t-ts— if i was flogging a dead horse, i-t-ts-tmsu- if i was flogging a dead horse, i'd-do-know whati i'd be like, do you know what tuit— i'd be like, do you know what tut—is— i'd be like, do you know what tuir—is usms- i'd be like, do you know what fair-is done and. fair game this is done and tustst— fair game this is done and dusted-but- fair game this is done and dusted but don't think dusted story. but i don't think it is.— dusted story. but i don't think it is. tirst— dusted story. but i don't think it is. tirst st— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all,— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all, i— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all, i have a

erstsumt— it is. first of all, i have a profound duty— it is. first of all, i have a profound duty to my viewers and tistsmsrs— profound duty to my viewers and tistsmsrs ts — profound duty to my viewers and listeners to call— profound duty to my viewers and listeners to call out the myessrisy— listeners to call out the myessrisy st— listeners to call out the hypocrisy of millionaire celebrities,— hypocrisy of millionaire celebrities, whoever they are . celebrities, whoever they are. amt— celebrities, whoever they are. amt iss-s— celebrities, whoever they are. and here's the _ celebrities, whoever they are. and here's the thing yourself. tus— and here's the thing yourself. you're so right— and here's the thing yourself. you're so right about real abuse ttut— you're so right about real abuse tmut tumsus— you're so right about real abuse that happens out— you're so right about real abuse that happens out there in the stsris— that happens out there in the world, which— that happens out there in the world, which is— that happens out there in the world, which is far worse. but ist-s— world, which is far worse. but tst-s tsst— world, which is far worse. but tst-s tsst ut— world, which is far worse. but let's look at schofield wood's comments about— let's look at schofield wood's comments about the this morning sst. — comments about the this morning sst. tiss— comments about the this morning sst. tiss us— comments about the this morning set. there are multiple figures ums— set. there are multiple figures utss muss— set. there are multiple figures who have reported how toxic life is ut— who have reported how toxic life is ut itv— who have reported how toxic life is ut itv umt— who have reported how toxic life is at itv and rather— who have reported how toxic life is at itv and rather than have tmsir— is at itv and rather than have their concerns— is at itv and rather than have their concerns addressed, tmsy-vs— their concerns addressed, they've been— their concerns addressed, they've been quite rightly moved on. they've been quite rightly moved trstussr— they've been quite rightly moved on. producer have— they've been quite rightly moved on. producer have signed non—disclosure agreements . it's non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. non—disclosure agreements. it's p. tumi— non—disclosure agreements. it's isr- itumi tstt— non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. ranj left the— non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. ranj left the show. dan tissttsm— dr. ranj left the show. dan wootton left— dr. ranj left the show. dan wootton left itv after ten years by tur— wootton left itv after ten years by tur tmsir— wootton left itv after ten years by far their best— wootton left itv after ten years by far their best presenter. sstt— by far their best presenter. tistt itv-s— by far their best presenter. well, itv's loss- by far their best presenter. well, itv's loss is our gain, tut— well, itv's loss is our gain, tut tis— well, itv's loss is our gain, but the bottom _ well, itv's loss is our gain, but the bottom line is he denied ttut— but the bottom line is he denied ttut tits— but the bottom line is he denied ttut tits ut— but the bottom line is he denied that life at this— but the bottom line is he denied that life at this morning is tssis— that life at this morning is toxic. katie— that life at this morning is toxic. katie hind, writing in tis— toxic. katie hind, writing in tis iiuit— toxic. katie hind, writing in tis iiuit sm— toxic. katie hind, writing in the mail on sunday newspaper tstuy— the mail on sunday newspaper tstuy .— the mail on sunday newspaper tstuy , mus— the mail on sunday newspaper today , has particular comment today, has particular comment trsm— today, has particular comment trsm ss— today, has particular comment from one ex—employee who said ttut— from one ex—employee who said ttut utsm— from one ex—employee who said ttut umsm sis— from one ex—employee who said that when she hears the this msmime— that when she hears the this morning theme— that when she hears the this morning theme tune, she gets a

smivsr— morning theme tune, she gets a smivsr tsrm— morning theme tune, she gets a shiver down her— morning theme tune, she gets a shiver down her spine and flashbacks— shiver down her spine and flashbacks .— shiver down her spine and flashbacks . ms schofield denies flashbacks. ms schofield denies all flashbacks. ms schofield denies utt st— flashbacks. ms schofield denies utt st ttut.— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's a— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's a liar. i'm ust— all of that. he's a liar. i'm ust tsrs— all of that. he's a liar. i'm ust tsrs ts— all of that. he's a liar. i'm not here to defend phillip schofield at all, and i think very clearly that there were things that happened on that show that they wouldn't be proud of looking back. but i would say that many on the centre right, sorry to bang the drum again, but many on the centre right, myself included, lament the fact that these bourgeois liberal nihilists have quite so much influence in our society. yes and by talking about this ad nauseum, actually we are cementing their position and we are legitimising the discourse. so i think we need to put this story to bed. phillip schofield has has been thoroughly disgraced . i think he deserved disgraced. i think he deserved what's happened . he's he's lost what's happened. he's he's lost all his positions. but as a society, i do think we need to be focusing on more serious crimes. well,i be focusing on more serious crimes. well, i agree with you. i crimes. well, i agree with you. iusutt— crimes. well, i agree with you. iusutt tsvs— crimes. well, i agree with you. i would love to— crimes. well, i agree with you. i would love to put— if.” well, i agree with you. i would love to put this story to i would love to put this story ts ist. — i would love to put this story ts ist. sut— i would love to put this story to bed. but they— i would love to put this story to bed. but they keep doing imtsrvisus— to bed. but they keep doing interviews with— to bed. but they keep doing interviews with the sun msuseuesr— interviews with the sun newspaper and the bbc . holly

newspaper and the bbc. holly trittsuemty— newspaper and the bbc. holly trittsueisty is— newspaper and the bbc. holly willoughby is going to do a stuts— willoughby is going to do a sus st— willoughby is going to do a state of the— willoughby is going to do a state of the union address tomorrow . like— state of the union address tomorrow . like abraham lincoln tomorrow. like abraham lincoln uttsssst— tomorrow. like abraham lincoln addressed the— tomorrow. like abraham lincoln addressed the american people ussut— addressed the american people utsut stuvsry— addressed the american people about slavery. the world's gone mut— about slavery. the world's gone mut .— about slavery. the world's gone mut . ss— about slavery. the world's gone mut . ss smss— about slavery. the world's gone mad . so once this— about slavery. the world's gone mad . so once this story dies mad. so once this story dies outr— mad. so once this story dies sut, tst— mad. so once this story dies sut, tst ms— mad. so once this story dies out, let me tell— mad. so once this story dies out, let me tell you, we'll be tis— out, let me tell you, we'll be tis tist— out, let me tell you, we'll be tis tirst ts— out, let me tell you, we'll be the first to move— out, let me tell you, we'll be the first to move on. but it's stit— the first to move on. but it's stitt u— the first to move on. but it's stitt u mst— the first to move on. but it's still a hot topic— the first to move on. but it's still a hot topic because it imvstvss— still a hot topic because it involves us.— still a hot topic because it involves us. celebrity hypocrisy umt— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy umt i— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy umt i tust— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy and i just won't— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy and i just won't have it. what's ysur— and i just won't have it. what's ysur sustisms— and i just won't have it. what's your reaction? do— and i just won't have it. what's your reaction? do you think that ustty— your reaction? do you think that holly willoughby— your reaction? do you think that holly willoughby is a convincing ssrssm— holly willoughby is a convincing usrssm utsm— holly willoughby is a convincing person when she— holly willoughby is a convincing person when she says that she msu— person when she says that she knew nothing?— person when she says that she knew nothing? is— person when she says that she knew nothing? is this story over ssstst— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market gb— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market gb news dot com. nea— cooked market gb news dot com. usxt us— cooked market gb news dot com. usxt us is— cooked market gb news dot com. usut up its est— cooked market gb news dot com. next up i've got tonight's newsmaker and it's politics tsesmt— newsmaker and it's politics tsesmt amm— newsmaker and it's politics legend ann widdecombe. i'll be ustime— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be ustime a...— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann, will— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann, will tax cuts save tis— asking ann, will tax cuts save tis tsrisss— asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and _ asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and is— asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and is it time to srust— the tories? and is it time to srust tsrm— the tories? and is it time to crack down on— the tories? and is it time to crack down on westminster sex ssstss— crack down on westminster sex esstss utss,— crack down on westminster sex pests? also, we've— crack down on westminster sex pests? also, we've been asking you— pests? also, we've been asking ysu ssutt— pests? also, we've been asking ysu usutt u— pests? also, we've been asking you would a labour government tumsust— you would a labour government bankrupt britain?— you would a labour government bankrupt britain? will bring you the bankrupt britain? will bring you tis rssutts— bankrupt britain? will bring you the results of— bankrupt britain? will bring you the results of that text poll, all the results of that text poll, utt st— the results of that text poll, utt st ttut— the results of that text poll, all of that to— the results of that text poll, all of that to come.

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to gb news radio. now. ' c to gb news radio.- now. a little bit of parish business to tell you, first of all, i have the privilege of co—presenting to the point tomorrow morning and wednesday morning with the incredible bev turner andrew pierce is having a well—deserved holiday . and so well—deserved holiday. and so i'll be in the studio from 930. can't wait for that. that's tomorrow and wednesday. and also last night we beat sky news for the entirety of the show and we beat the world class bbc news from ten till 11. why did that happen? because of you. i just want to say i've got the most amazing viewers and listeners we are building an army together. if you're enjoying the show, tell your friends, tell your family and let's change the world together. and i've got two big words to say to all of you for what we achieved last night and weekend, which is and over the weekend, which is thank plenty thank you. and there's plenty more that came from. so more where that came from. so folks , all of that is true. folks, all of that is true. a couple of emails now. do you believe, holly willoughby , believe, holly willoughby, she'll the nation she'll be addressing the nation tomorrow at ten. be tomorrow at ten. it'll be a terrible audience because, of course, and will on at

course, bev and i will be on at the same time smashing itv into a cocked hat. but let's have a look at an email from jack. hi, mark. great show, as mark. another great show, as always. willoughby mark. another great show, as always. knew'illoughby mark. another great show, as always. knew whatjhby mark. another great show, as always. knew what was going definitely knew what was going on for years and is simply not admitting the truth as it would kill the shows and hers credibility even further than it has already. she's just trying to save her own skin. but the truth will out very soon. how about this ? i think the issue about this? i think the issue that .i don't feel is being cleared up says an ed, is why did holly willoughby want phillip schofield to leave the show? was it his brother's court case? if not, how can she deny it wasn't about phillip's unwise behaviour ? and you've pointed behaviour? and you've pointed out an excellent inconsistency in her argument. alan finally says , mark, i've got no feelings says, mark, i've got no feelings for schofield one way or the other. what i don't want to see for the sake of his children is for the sake of his children is for him to be pushed to a point where he may take his life. alan you are so right. the bottom line is i don't think that phillip schofield is a well

bunny. i don't think he's a happy at all. and i think happy bunny at all. and i think it's important that he gets it's very important that he gets family and friends, support and professional as well. professional support as well. thatis professional support as well. that is number one. but that won't stop me calling out some of his lies and hypocrisy. but in terms of his health, i wish him well. and we certainly hope that he's able to get his life back on track. i doubt via the television studios , but we shall television studios, but we shall see. now, folks , lots to get see. now, folks, lots to get through. and we've got the papers at exactly ten £0.30 sharp, a quick one, by the way, we're trying to get hold of ann widdecombe. we've got some wi fi issues. for that. we issues. apologies for that. we love ann much. she's love ann so much. she's a fixture a sunday night. fixture on a sunday night. problems connection . problems with the connection. but will be back next week . but ann will be back next week. but ann will be back next week. but my pundits . but let me ask my pundits. according to the sunday telegraph newspaper, rishi sunak wants income tax or wants to cut income tax or national insurance by £0.02 before the general election in a bid to incentivise work and win votes. i'm delighted to say that our newsmaker, ann widdecombe, has prevailed. and welcome to the show . thank you. and we've

the show. thank you. and we've only got time for one answer, but one answer is worth a million from someone else in terms of your good self, we all tax cuts save the tories . no, i tax cuts save the tories. no, i don't think anything will save the tories. quite honestly . and the tories. quite honestly. and you— the tories. quite honestly. and ysu msu,— the tories. quite honestly. and ysu msu, tis— the tories. quite honestly. and you know, the tax— quite honestly. and you know, the tax cuts aren't going— you know, the tax cuts aren't esime ts — you know, the tax cuts aren't esime ts is — you know, the tax cuts aren't going to be immediate. very surtisst— going to be immediate. very earliest. there'll_ going to be immediate. very earliest. there'll be as next april-— earliest. there'll be as next aerit us— earliest. there'll be as next april. no bodies— earliest. there'll be as next april. no bodies actually going to april. no bodies actually going ts sss— april. no bodies actually going ts must— april. no bodies actually going to see much change in their tsr— to see much change in their tsr u— to see much change in their income for a while. and yet and yet income for a while. and yet and yst rstusime— income for a while. and yet and yet reducing taxes— income for a while. and yet and yet reducing taxes is always the tist— yet reducing taxes is always the tirst stsu— yet reducing taxes is always the first step towards— yet reducing taxes is always the first step towards encouraging erssm— first step towards encouraging ersutis .— first step towards encouraging ersutis . sss— first step towards encouraging growth . see thatcher if you growth. see thatcher if you usm-t— growth. see thatcher if you don't believe _ growth. see thatcher if you don't believe me to write. tissu— don't believe me to write. tistsu. a... — don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we— don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we will- don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we will see you in a week's time. i wish we had longer. my thanks to the formidable former politician and, of course, bestselling author and television personality widdecombe. now personality ann widdecombe. now folks, let me tell you that we've got tomorrow's papers coming some very coming up. some very hot headunes coming up. some very hot headlines coming in thick and fast. also we're going to bring you the results that text you the results of that text poll. britain afford poll. can britain afford a labour government? we'll discuss that very , very shortly with my that very, very shortly with my top pundits. the papers next.

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we' re we're proud to be gb news. the tistssms— we're proud to be gb news. the tistssms tust— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the show. - we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the show. the papers in just a couple of seconds. let's get your emails now in regards to holly willoughby and her big announcement tomorrow on this morning . this from dj loveday, morning. this from dj loveday, who says , hi, mark. i don't who says, hi, mark. i don't think this story is done for me. when you look at the various charities and organisations that he's linked with, it shows a pattern of behaviour . well, pattern of behaviour. well, look, there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that anything that schofield has done has been illegal, but it's been unwise. there was a power imbalance and i think he's been dishonest, including in his most recent interview call out so—called homophobia . do me a so—called homophobia. do me a favour . okay, folks, it's time favour. okay, folks, it's time for this . and it's time for the for this. and it's time for the papers. so let's have a look. we

shall start with the independent and they lead with the following. prince harry finally gets his day in court. he does love a good court case, doesn't he? the litigious duke of sussex will be in the witness box this week in his hacking case against mirror group newspapers , also mirror group newspapers, also abandoned by uk 44 afghans, with abandoned by uk 44 afghans, with a taliban target on their backs . next up, we've got the daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as rates keep rising. yes a record 1 in 5. first time buyers are signing up to mortgages of more than three decades as interest rates soar. but while spreading out the loans makes them more affordable in the short term, it means home owners will accrue thousands of pounds more debt on the interest of that mortgage over its lifetime . also this morning, lifetime. also this morning, meltdown. the topic of my take at ten, holly's back on sofa today, but will she bring herself to say phil's name ?

herself to say phil's name? shame there's a lot of men's names we're not allowed to quote in relation to that story, aren't there? how about the guardian now, tory, austerity left britain hugely unprepared for covid say the unions and thousands protest over rise of the rights in poland . and also the rights in poland. and also this is good news. we need good news, don't we? on a sunday night, a pill taken once a day cuts the risk of dying from lung cancer by half, according to thrilling and unprecedented results from a decade long global study . we the i newspaper global study. we the i newspaper generation are i most fearful of losing their jobs to robots . of losing their jobs to robots. of course, ai is artificial intelligence that's shorthand for software and computers 52% of young adults aged 18 to 24, a concern that artificial intelligence systems will damage their employment prospects . this their employment prospects. this this according to a survey for the ai newspaper . let

this according to a survey for the ai newspaper. let me tell you, my pundits could not be replaced by robots, especially neil parish . do you know what i neil parish. do you know what i tstisvss— neil parish. do you know what i tstisvss ai— neil parish. do you know what i believe? al to _ neil parish. do you know what i believe? al to be— biz; c do you know what i believe? al to be artificial insemination— believe? al to be artificial insemination as a farmer. but we usm-t— insemination as a farmer. but we usm-t es— insemination as a farmer. but we usm-t es tiss — insemination as a farmer. but we won't go there. well neil, it's a won't go there. well neil, it's utumity— won't go there. well neil, it's a family show,— won't go there. well neil, it's a family show, but obe only of sums— a family show, but obe only of suttts umt— a family show, but obe only of cattle and sheep.— a family show, but obe only of cattle and sheep. i hasten to uut. — cattle and sheep. i hasten to uut. tts— cattle and sheep. i hasten to add. the problem- cattle and sheep. i hasten to add. the problem with these politicians , they're so crazy, politicians, they're so crazy, aren't they? they're so because tisy-rs— aren't they? they're so because tisy-rs mst. — aren't they? they're so because they're not. they're— aren't they? they're so because they're not. they're not- they're not. they're not following the whip. they're so off following the whip. they're so stt msssues— following the whip. they're so stt msssues .— following the whip. they're so off message . exactly. - n; they're so off message . exactly. off message. exactly. that's riett— off message. exactly. that's riett. its— off message. exactly. that's right. it's dangerous . i don't right. it's dangerous. i don't think i ever was— right. it's dangerous. i don't think i ever was on- gn 33 i don't think i ever was on message. rtum— think i ever was on message. iiurt ttut— think i ever was on message. mark that was— think i ever was on message. mark that was a— think i ever was on message. mark that was a trouble. i've never considered— mark that was a trouble. i've never considered your insemination to be artificial . insemination to be artificial. aut— insemination to be artificial. art ysu— insemination to be artificial. uut ysu sur— insemination to be artificial. and you can quote— insemination to be artificial. and you can quote me.- insemination to be artificial. and you can quote me. you can quote me on that. i'm certainly not answering that one. thank you. this is past the watershed. you see, the thing about- you. n you see, the thing about this stsu— you see, the thing about this smsu is— you see, the thing about this smsu is ysu— you see, the thing about this show is you wouldn't need an inquiry— show is you wouldn't need an imeuiry-sutturs- inquiry about the culture on tits— inquiry about the culture on- this—unfortunately, this show because unfortunately, you this show because unfortunately, ysu-umt— this show because unfortunately, ysu-uut ysu— this show because unfortunately, you-and you hear- this show because unfortunately, you and you hear it. you see it and you hear it. tiss-s— you see it and you hear it. there's nothing— you see it and you hear it. there's nothing to hide . can we there's nothing to hide. can we be there's nothing to hide. can we is missi— there's nothing to hide. can we be nicer backstage— there's nothing to hide. can we be nicer backstage , more gentle be nicer backstage, more gentle in be nicer backstage, more gentle im tis— be nicer backstage, more gentle im tis erssm— be nicer backstage, more gentle in the green room,— be nicer backstage, more gentle in the green room, isn't it? tits— in the green room, isn't it? this is— in the green room, isn't it? this is ss— in the green room, isn't it? this is so how— in the green room, isn't it? this is so how about the daily stuts— this is so how about the daily sturs ist-s— this is so how about the daily star? let's have— this is so how about the daily star? let's have a— this is so how about the daily star? let's have a proper msuseuesr— star? let's have a proper newspaper now, if we can. james

smitt— newspaper now, if we can. james smitt tis— newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers— newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers ,_ newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers , slap on the chill the beers, slap on the sunscreen and— chill the beers, slap on the sunscreen and roast all week. tis-rs— sunscreen and roast all week. we're oven ready.— sunscreen and roast all week. we're oven ready. brits it's tumtustis— we're oven ready. brits it's fantastic news.— we're oven ready. brits it's fantastic news. 27 degrees in mssss— fantastic news. 27 degrees in mssss st— fantastic news. 27 degrees in msess st u— fantastic news. 27 degrees in hopes of a heat— fantastic news. 27 degrees in hopes of a heat wave rose today as hopes of a heat wave rose today us usutisr— hopes of a heat wave rose today as weather boffins_ hopes of a heat wave rose today as weather boffins predict the sury— as weather boffins predict the sury witt— as weather boffins predict the mercury will hit— as weather boffins predict the mercury will hit 27 this week. so mercury will hit 27 this week. ss keep— mercury will hit 27 this week. ss tsss ttut— mercury will hit 27 this week. so keep that fridge full of cold . war,— so keep that fridge full of cold ones . well, i'm— so keep that fridge full of cold ones . well, i'm happy to follow ones. well, i'm happy to follow ttut— ones. well, i'm happy to follow ttut utviss— ones. well, i'm happy to follow ttut utviss .— ones. well, i'm happy to follow that advice . those— ones. well, i'm happy to follow that advice . those are your that advice. those are your trsmt— that advice. those are your trsmt uuess— that advice. those are your front pages. we've got more to come. meshugana_ front pages. we've got more to come. meshugana and abigail are busy— come. meshugana and abigail are busy erimtime— come. meshugana and abigail are busy printing them— come. meshugana and abigail are busy printing them out as we sssm— busy printing them out as we speakr tut— busy printing them out as we speak, but listen, let's have a isss— speak, but listen, let's have a tsst, strutt— speak, but listen, let's have a look, shall we?— speak, but listen, let's have a look, shall we? emma, at this ssry— look, shall we? emma, at this ssry smssmimse— look, shall we? emma, at this very concerning story in the duty— very concerning story in the duty iiuit— very concerning story in the daily mail record demand for 35 ysur— daily mail record demand for 35 ysur msrteuess— daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as— daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as rates keep risime— year mortgages as rates keep risime. i— year mortgages as rates keep risime. i msum— year mortgages as rates keep rising. i mean, it's an absolute ssitsms— rising. i mean, it's an absolute seitsms st— rising. i mean, it's an absolute epitome of how— rising. i mean, it's an absolute epitome of how broken our msusime— epitome of how broken our housing market is. / housing market is. yeah, i have a housing market is. yeah, i have uss— housing market is. yeah, i have us ysur— housing market is. yeah, i have a 25 year mortgage. i'm luckily enough ten years through it. it will be renewing in two years. i'm terrified . i'm absolutely i'm terrified. i'm absolutely terrified. what the rates will be. terrified. what the rates will is. ssut,— terrified. what the rates will be. yeah, because— terrified. what the rates will be. yeah, because i- �*" tilt: what the rates will be. yeah, because i the reason in be. yeah, because i the reason im ttut— be. yeah, because i the reason is ttut tsu— be. yeah, because i the reason in that ten years— be. yeah, because i the reason in that ten years ago i took out

siest— in that ten years ago i took out siemt ss— in that ten years ago i took out siemt ss siest— in that ten years ago i took out eight so eight years ago tmumttutty— eight so eight years ago thankfully i— eight so eight years ago thankfully i took out a ten year msrteues— thankfully i took out a ten year msrteues us— thankfully i took out a ten year mortgage was because the rates aut— mortgage was because the rates were zero. and i— mortgage was because the rates were zero. ' d were zero. and i thought, well, doesn't technically get lower than that, right? doesn't technically get lower than that, right ? correct. i than that, right? correct. i mean i mean, with g�*f i mean i mean, with inflation, its— mean i mean, with inflation, it-s mst— mean i mean, with inflation, it-s mst esut— mean i mean, with inflation, it's not great maths. it's not great at maths. mark. i trsu.— it's not great at maths. mark. i trust i— it's not great at maths. mark. i know. i economists, but know. i know economists, but with it almost with inflation it is almost pays you the money. yeah , you to borrow the money. yeah, but we are just so bad- you to borrow the money. yeah, but we are just so bad at- but we are just so bad at tsttime— but we are just so bad at tsttime tis— but we are just so bad at letting the next generation be a part— letting the next generation be a suit st— letting the next generation be a suit st tis— letting the next generation be a part of the home— letting the next generation be a part of the home owning culture . aru— part of the home owning culture . art it— part of the home owning culture . art it ysu— part of the home owning culture . and if you want— part of the home owning culture . and if you want to- part of the home owning culture . and if you want to know why the tories are not just struggling with young people , struggling with young people, all but people, right up to, you know, 45, 50. this is why there is people in their 40s still living at home or in flat shares. yeah. or just renting shares. yeah. orjust renting umt— shares. yeah. orjust renting umt muss— shares. yeah. orjust renting and have been— yeah. orjust renting and have been renting forever umt— and have been renting forever umt witt— and have been renting forever umt uitt is— and have been renting forever and will be renting forever. aru— and will be renting forever. art msrs— and will be renting forever. and there is— and will be renting forever. and there is you— and will be renting forever. and there is you know- and will be renting forever. and there is you know if you want a thatcher had this vision of a home owning democracy but that the policies that she enacted to make that happen

worked for one generation and one generation only. and this is the result. everybody else is locked out. neil mark i'm old enough to remember the ten, 12, 15% interest rates and when i was farming i took out long term loans which were far too high in interest. so my been in the surty— interest. so my been in the surty sss— interest. so my been in the early 90s exactly. - nazi;”rzi;~3c so my been in the early 90s exactly. my nazi;izi;~3c so my been in the early 90s exactly. my advice to msss— early 90s exactly. my advice to tmsss sumtss— early 90s exactly. my advice to those punters out— early 90s exactly. my advice to those punters out there. now if ysus— those punters out there. now if ysus esime— those punters out there. now if ysus esime ts— those punters out there. now if you're going to get a mortgage , you're going to get a mortgage, tuts— you're going to get a mortgage, tuts it— you're going to get a mortgage, tuts it smsrt— you're going to get a mortgage, take it short term— you're going to get a mortgage, take it short term for the time tsime— take it short term for the time being because— take it short term for the time being because interest rates are not being because interest rates are mst esime— being because interest rates are mst esimelstuy— being because interest rates are not going stay high because not going to stay hiin because the not going to stay high because tis—is- not going to stay high because tis—is mst- not going to stay high because. the—is not strong the world economy is not strong smsueis. — the world economy is not strong smsueis. ss— the world economy is not strong enough. so therefore they will miss— enough. so therefore they will trivs sut— enough. so therefore they will drive out inflation and then imtsrsst— drive out inflation and then interest rates— drive out inflation and then interest rates will come down. so interest rates will come down. ss tisstsrs — interest rates will come down. so therefore ,_ interest rates will come down. so therefore , don't lock so therefore, don't lock ysursstt— so therefore, don't lock yourself into - so therefore, don't lock yourself into ten, 15, 20 year msrteuess— yourself into ten, 15, 20 year mortgages because they will be far mortgages because they will be tur tss— mortgages because they will be tur tss item.— mortgages because they will be far too high. then— mortgages because they will be far too high. then you've got to pay—get— far too high. then you've got to suy—est sut- far too high. then you've got to suy—est sut st- pay penalties to get out of msss— pay penalties to get out of tmsss umt— pay penalties to get out of those and i into - pay penalties to get out of those and into others. those and go into others. i sssut— those and go into others. i sesmt my— those and go into others. i sesmt my tits— those and go into others. i spent my life paying too spent my life paying far too mumy— spent my life paying far too mumy-esttime- spent my life paying far too- many-getting interest many penalties, getting interest rutss— many penalties, getting interest utss-umsm— many penalties, getting interest rates-when they- many penalties, getting interest rates when they came down rates down when they came down in rates down when they came down is tis — rates down when they came down is tis surty— rates down when they came down in the early 2000. _ rates down when they came down in the early 2000. so, you know, we in the early 2000. so, you know, rrs-rsutty— in the early 2000. so, you know, rrs-rsutty est— in the early 2000. so, you know, rrs-rsutty est ts— in the early 2000. so, you know, we-really got to be- in the early 2000. so, you know, we really got to be careful we have really got to be careful on we have really got to be careful sm tits— we have really got to be careful sm tits ss— we have really got to be careful on this one because otherwise if you— on this one because otherwise if you-get— on this one because otherwise if ysu-est u— on this one because otherwise if ysu-est u rsutty— on this one because otherwise if you get a really good rate you can get a really good rate tsme— you can get a really good rate tsme-sut— you can get a really good rate tsme-sut u- you can get a really good rate tsme-sut u tst- you can get a really good rate long-but a lot of. long term. yes. but a lot of tism — long term. yes. but a lot of tism us—

long term. yes. but a lot of them are .too_ long term. yes. but a lot of them are too and long term. yes. but a lot of. them are .too-and you them are far too hiin and you get them are far too high and you est tsstst— them are far too high and you est tsstst im— them are far too high and you get locked in for— them are far too high and you get locked in for far too long. tstt— get locked in for far too long. tstt its— get locked in for far too long. tstt its u— get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter— get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter of- get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter of choice because advanced as because i'm not as advanced as the two of you. i'm actually paying the two of you. i'm actually paying somebody else's mortgage because i'm renting. yeah, right. of course. right. yes, of course. if i could a year mortgage, could get a 35 year mortgage, i would. but of course you jump at it, would. but of course you jump at it—tts— would. but of course you jump at it,_the surty- would. but of course you jump at re—its surty ttuti it, wouldn't you? the party that that the housing crisis that solves the housing crisis or population or the population crisis, depending on how you want to look it, in for look at it, will be in power for the years. for that's the next ten years. for that's sure, because this is a huge issue. no no such i would like to a point on the 15% to make a point on the 15% thing, which neil is absolutely right in the practical terms , i, right in the practical terms, i, i that's exactly the reason i took out my ten year mortgage because interest rates were so low. yeah, but the, the 15% msrteues— low. yeah, but the, the 15% mortgage rates— yeah, but the, the 15% mortgage rates are often used by sssuts— mortgage rates are often used by sssuts ts— mortgage rates are often used by mp“! ts muss— mortgage rates are often used by people to make an— mortgage rates are often used by people to make an argument that, oh, people to make an argument that, or. visit— people to make an argument that, or. ustt us— people to make an argument that, oh, well, we have— people to make an argument that, oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rutss— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rutss im— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rutss is my— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rutss is my suy— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rates in my day and therefore ysus— rates in my day and therefore ysus tust— rates in my day and therefore you're just being— rates in my day and therefore you're just being wet complaining about 5. but property— complaining about 5. but property was— complaining about 5. but property was so much cheaper tism— property was so much cheaper tism ysu— property was so much cheaper then you could— property was so much cheaper then you could buy a house for too— then you could buy a house for too erumst— then you could buy a house for 100 grand. exactly.— then you could buy a house for 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah.

tis-rs— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. tis-rs tut— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. we've had huge— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. we've had huge inflation of the cost. and so the ratcheting effect. but, but, but it's still the principle is the same. don't lock yourself into a high interest rate for a long term because they will come down again. you see, i mean, historically , we never expected historically, we never expected to see 0.5, 0.25. whether they will go quite that low again. but i can see them going to 1 or 2, but joseph's right that if we can actually help people onto that ladder . can actually help people onto that ladder. but that's where i think you need the mortgage companies with first time buyers and second buyers to be able to actually give a good package . actually give a good package. joseph, you mentioned is it a useututism— joseph, you mentioned is it a population crisis— joseph, you mentioned is it a population crisis or a housing srisis— population crisis or a housing srisis s— population crisis or a housing srisis s sry— population crisis or a housing crisis ? very, very— population crisis or a housing crisis ? very, very perceptive crisis? very, very perceptive tssuss— crisis? very, very perceptive issuss i— crisis? very, very perceptive because i get— crisis? very, very perceptive because i get so- crisis? very, very perceptive because i get so many emails trsm— because i get so many emails trsm visusrs— because i get so many emails from viewers saying there's no ssmt— from viewers saying there's no ssmt tusttime— from viewers saying there's no point tackling the housing srisis— point tackling the housing srisis umt— point tackling the housing crisis and building more houses if crisis and building more houses it ysu— crisis and building more houses it ysu muss— crisis and building more houses if you have net— crisis and building more houses if you have net migration of sssutss— if you have net migration of soosoo u— if you have net migration of 600,000 a year,— if you have net migration of 600,000 a year, which is the msst— 600,000 a year, which is the msst sssmt— 600,000 a year, which is the most recent figure, it's absolutely— most recent figure, it's absolutely unsustained able. aru— absolutely unsustained able. art it— absolutely unsustained able. art it in— absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual— absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact,- absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact, it's- absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact, it's not just housing, it's infrastructure, it's everything that comes school places, gp surgeries , the country cannot

surgeries, the country cannot keep up, not to mention issues of social harmony and the fact that we need to build our communities as slowly and sustainably . and i would sustainably. and i would absolutely say it's a population crisis as opposed to it's a demographic crisis, not a population crisis . if we build population crisis. if we build enough houses to home everybody who needs one, the country will eventually be tarmacked. emma obviously there is an excellently positive level of immigration to the country. there always has been. it's tisstty— there always has been. it's directly linked— there always has been. it's directly linked to economic ersutm. — directly linked to economic erssm. tit— directly linked to economic growth. i'll give you that. plus stitts— growth. i'll give you that. plus stitts ttut— growth. i'll give you that. plus skills that country needs. skills that the country needs. sut— skills that the country needs. but soosoo — skills that the country needs. but 600,000 year, that's not but 600,000 a year, that's not sustuimutts— but 600,000 a year, that's not sustainable. that— but 600,000 a year, that's not sustainable. that is a crisis. tis-s— sustainable. that is a crisis. tis-rs um— sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing— sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing country. sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing country . �*vitt�*rzi; ritizi; we're an ageing country. we are a we're an ageing country. we are ussuutry— we're an ageing country. we are u ssuutry smsss— we're an ageing country. we are a country whose retirement age is . 65 and a country whose retirement age is. 65 and whose population is increasing over that far more than it's increasing under that thatis than it's increasing under that that is why we are importing workers . and i don't doubt. and workers. and i don't doubt. and is that a good thing or- workers. and i don't doubt. and is that a good thing or a- is that a good thing or a bad times— is that a good thing or a bad times i— is that a good thing or a bad thing? i don't— is that a good thing or a bad thing? i don't care. i'm neutral on thing? i don't care. i'm neutral us it.— thing? i don't care. i'm neutral on it. but you should care if

you struggle to get your kids into a local school or to see your side christmas . your gp this side of christmas. but that's about how we manage our do we not about our society. how do we not about who we do it for ? we have we who we do it for? we have we have because of medical advances, people are living a great deal longer than they used to be. they need more care and they need it for longer. to be. they need more care and they need it for longer . they they need it for longer. they will be not working for longer. we have no never faced up to that part of the way that we have faced up to that is by importing very , very cheap importing very, very cheap laboun importing very, very cheap labour. now i'm not in favour of paying labour. now i'm not in favour of paying migrants less than we pay british workers. i think if we're going . but then but then we're going. but then but then the british workers get as much as well that that can be done through policy decisions . so all through policy decisions. so all of this is policy decisions . if of this is policy decisions. if you really, genuinely obe genuinely say that you cannot cope with 600,000 new people a year , then pay care workers year, then pay care workers more, pay the people at the bottom who pick the fruit more

because ultimately the demographic crunch is going to make that have to happen . and make that have to happen. and that's not a left wing decision. that's a market decision to be made. ithink that's a market decision to be made. i think net migration is too made. i think net migration is tss item— made. i think net migration is tss item ut— : i think net migration is too high at 600,000, but where i ustuutty— too high at 600,000, but where i ustuutty ueuim,— too high at 600,000, but where i actually again, emma and i are uerssime— actually again, emma and i are uerssime tss— actually again, emma and i are agreeing too much tonight is ttut— agreeing too much tonight is ttut i— agreeing too much tonight is ttut i msum— agreeing too much tonight is ttut i ,— agreeing too much tonight is that i mean , i— agreeing too much tonight is that i mean , i would have that i mean, i would have a constituent— that i mean, i would have a constituent come- that i mean, i would have a constituent come to me, seed me ssry— constituent come to me, seed me vsry-suy— constituent come to me, seed me vsry-suy rrs-vs— constituent come to me, seed me vsry-suy est- constituent come to me, seed me very say we've got too very elderly, say we've got too must — very elderly, say we've got too much immigration, then i have a trsm sri— much immigration, then i have a nurse from sri lanka , a nursing nurse from sri lanka, a nursing msms. — nurse from sri lanka, a nursing msms. ttsy— nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. they want— nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. they want this- nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. ii”: home. they want this lady to come be the sister at this come and be the sister at this nursing home. so therefore, we do actually need labour in that. and when we came to picking fruit, we tried to pick pick for britain during covid, we did not get the people . so, you know, i get the people. so, you know, i think, emma, if you offered them a great deal more, you might be able to do it. but of course, you know, the market wouldn't stand. food. so stand. it cost of food. so therefore, you i think therefore, you know, i think we do some imported do need some some imported labour. emma do you think it's mstut— labour. emma do you think it's msrut tsr— labour. emma do you think it's msrut tsr us— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to go— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to go to- ” emma do you think it's moral for us to go to less tsvstssst— moral for us to go to less developed countries and hoover up developed countries and hoover us utt— developed countries and hoover up utt tmsir— developed countries and hoover up all their talent, take all tmsir— up all their talent, take all their nurses,— up all their talent, take all their nurses, take their their nurses, take all their tsstsrs— their nurses, take all their doctors and—

their nurses, take all their doctors and offer them a wage ttut— doctors and offer them a wage ttut tmsy— doctors and offer them a wage that they can't— doctors and offer them a wage that they can't possibly refuse? do that they can't possibly refuse? iss ysu— that they can't possibly refuse? us ysu trsmt— that they can't possibly refuse? do you think that's right? jrzir do you think that's right? do i mirt— do you think that's right? do i think its— do you think that's right? do i think it's moral— do you think that's right? do i think it's moral that- do you think that's right? do i think it's moral that we have open?i think it's moral that we have open? i don't think i don't believe in completely open borders . i understand borders. and i understand the questions of brain drain. but honestly , you as an honestly, you as an individualist, presumably as a tory, you believe in individual rights over state rights. those individuals get make that individuals get to make that choice . and a market choice. and that's a market decision. that's not my decision , which it's a it's a market. market forces are moving those people from those poor countries to rich countries happening all over the developed world, all the way through europe , all the way through europe, all through america. and so it's very difficult— through america. and so it's very difficult to— g ' i and so it's very difficult to abandon the trss— very difficult to abandon the free market. _ very difficult to abandon the free market. (wire; free market. great. let's start with that. i don't think- free market. (wire; i don't think either with that. i don't think either of with that. i don't think either st us— with that. i don't think either st us us— with that. i don't think either of us are suggesting- i don't think either of us are suggesting abandoning the of us are suggesting abandoning tis trss— of us are suggesting abandoning the free market— of us are suggesting abandoning the free market comfortable with if k the free market comfortable with it—t u— the free market comfortable with it—t u yea, - the free market comfortable with if_k a year, that- if it was 600 k a year, that ssutt— if it was 600 k a year, that usutt is— if it was 600 k a year, that usutt is s— if it was 600 k a year, that would be 6 million over a sssuts. — would be 6 million over a sssuts. is— would be 6 million over a decade. is that- would be 6 million over a decade. is that how is that going to work in terms of communities, in terms of infrastructure, housing? it would fall over which system would fall over which system would fall over because we don't

import 600,000 a year. the systems that older- 000 000 the systems that older people iy00 000 the systems that older people and sssuts— systems that older people and mp“! sms— systems that older people and people who need— systems that older people and people who need care and people ums— people who need care and people utss rum— people who need care and people utss turms— people who need care and people who run farms and— people who need care and people who run farms and people who are you who run farms and people who are ysu suyime— who run farms and people who are ysu suyime mut— who run farms and people who are ysu suyime tmut us— who run farms and people who are you saying that we should have a tsrtsr— you saying that we should have a tsrtsr trss— you saying that we should have a border free policy— you saying that we should have a border free policy so that we muvs. us,— border free policy so that we can have. no, i'm- border free policy so that we can have. no, i'm not saying ttut— can have. no, i'm not saying ttut simst— can have. no, i'm not saying that either. _ can have. no, i'm not saying that either . �*titt�*netc can have. no, i'm not saying that either . �*tittnitc g: that either. what's a good number for you? i don't think that there is a number. that's not the way to look- that there is a number. that's not the way to look at- that there is a number. that's not the way to look at it.- that's not the way to look at it. the way— not the way to look at it. the uuy ts— not the way to look at it. the wuy ts tsst— not the way to look at it. the wuy ts tsst ut— not the way to look at it. the way to look at it— not the way to look at it. the way to look at it is how are we mumueime— way to look at it is how are we mumueime tits— way to look at it is how are we managing this market so badly? we managing this market so badly? tis ss— managing this market so badly? tis ss trusty— managing this market so badly? we so badly that— managing this market so badly? we so badly that we can only run our economy on cheap, on cheap imssrtst— our economy on cheap, on cheap imported labour? _ our economy on cheap, on cheap imported labour? /rzir. ”ti: imported labour? you're utsstutsty— imported labour? you're absolutely right. it is a crack cocaine of cheap labour and it's greedy corporations and crap government policy. but we are where we government policy. but we are utss us im— government policy. but we are where we are in your- g rig but we are where we are in your let's imueims— where we are in your let's imagine everything worked usrtsstty— imagine everything worked usrtsstty im— imagine everything worked perfectly in the country and everyone's happy. what is a good mumisr— everyone's happy. what is a good mumisr tsr— everyone's happy. what is a good number for net— everyone's happy. what is a good number for net migration per ysur.— number for net migration per ysur. i— number for net migration per ysur. i usm-t— number for net migration per year. i don't know because i usm-t— year. i don't know because i usm-t trsmt— year. i don't know because i don't think you— year. i don't know because i don't think you answer that tssuss— don't think you answer that issuss i— don't think you answer that because i don't— don't think you answer that because i don't think it's a mumisr— because i don't think it's a mumisr ts— because i don't think it's a number to.able- because i don't think it's a number to able to answer number to be able to answer ttut.— number to be able to answer ttut-i— number to be able to answer ttut-i-sueesstl that. no, i would suggest tstussm— that. no, i would suggest between 100,000. that. no, i would suggest- between-100,000. well, between 50 and 100,000. well, i tsu-t— between 50 and 100,000. well, i ssutt—tists- between 50 and 100,000. well, i ssutt—ttut-s u- between 50 and 100,000. well, i don't that's a good don't know because that's a good intake. we want 50,000 intake. we might want 50,000 tits— intake. we might want 50,000 tits ysur— intake. we might want 50,000 tmis ysur umt— we might want 50,000 this year and 150,000 next year. aru— this year and 150,000 next year. art it— this year and 150,000 next year. art it ysu— this year and 150,000 next year. uut it ysu put.— this year and 150,000 next year. and if you put. all— this year and 150,000 next year.

and if you put. all right,- this year and 150,000 next year. ni: all right, so and if you put. all right, so ysus— and if you put. all right, so you're happy— and if you put. all right, so you're happy to_ and if you put. all right, so you're happy to stay- ni: all right, so you're happy to stay at n: all right, so you're happy to stay at that tsrsr— you're happy to stay at that tsrsr-i— you're happy to stay at that lower-i don't- you're happy to stay at that lower-i don't i- you're happy to stay at that. lower-i don't i would lower level. i don't i would love to country in which we love to be a country in which we didn't need import didn't need to import cheap labour. the is. yet labour. the trouble is. and yet we're also open— labour. the trouble is. and yet we're also open to— ” the trouble is. and yet we're also open to people who ssutt— we're also open to people who ssutt-msmsy— we're also open to people who could-money in.- we're also open to people who could money in. the could bring money in. the trsutts— could bring money in. the trouble-well,- could bring money in. the trouble well, exactly. but trouble is. well, exactly. but ysus— trouble is. well, exactly. but. ysu-vs—ssuttu you've asked me for a coulda, usuttu— you've asked me for a coulda, woulda-answer. - you've asked me for a coulda,. woulda-answer. .like woulda should answer. i'd like to woulda should answer. i'd like tsl. tus— woulda should answer. i'd like to.. you're asking- woulda should answer. i'd like to.. you're asking me- woulda should answer. t: c you're asking me in a to go. you're asking me in a ssrtsst— to go. you're asking me in a perfect scenario,— git you're asking me in a perfect scenario, what would gtit you're asking me in a perfect scenario, what would you tss — perfect scenario, what would you tss ttut-s— perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right.— perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right. that- perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right. that is- do? that's right. that is a coulda , woulda, shoulda coulda, woulda, shoulda question. are you going to get visit— question. are you going to get visit .— question. are you going to get ever. well , i've— question. are you going to get ever. well , i've got- question. are you going to get ever. well , i've got whatever ever. well, i've got whatever figure you put on it. you can put 50 and 100,000- figure you put on it. you can put 50 and 100,000 on- �*" 3 ”ti: a you can put 50 and 100,000 on it. you msu,— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you msu, tis— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you msu, tis tsry— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you know, the tory party has ustuutty— know, the tory party has actually tried - know, the tory party has actually tried to control immigration,- actually tried to control immigration, has failed the tutsur— immigration, has failed the tutsur surty— immigration, has failed the labour party will do the same . labour party will do the same. tsu— labour party will do the same. tsu msrt— labour party will do the same. tsu msu, us— labour party will do the same. you know, we have not got a systsm — you know, we have not got a systsm iss— you know, we have not got a system here where we're actually ssmtrsttime— system here where we're actually controlling what's— system here where we're actually controlling what's a good immigration— controlling what's a good| immigration—a controlling what's a good- immigration_a good immigration and what's a good mumisr— immigration and what's a good mumiss-lustr— immigration and what's a good number.inear-would immigration and what's a good. number.inear-would be number. near 100,000 would be good could get there. but good if we could get there. but like i we do need we good if we could get there. but like i-we do need we do. like i said, we do need we do msst— like i said, we do need we do need some migrant i'm need some migrant labour. i'm ssmy— need some migrant labour. i'm ssmy-witt— need some migrant labour. i'm sorry-will-replace- need some migrant labour. i'm sorry will replace all sorry, you will not replace all mierumt— sorry, you will not replace all migrant labour. _ sorry, you will not replace all migrant labour. n migrant labour. the amount. when my father came over 20 to 50,000, he came over in the 1960s and thank god he did look at you right and the rate at you right rate and the rate of immigration was enough. or

was slow enough that people could integrate and we could build communities. and i think it's import it's very dangerous to import generation after generation of immigrants in an uncontrolled way. okay. well, listen, folks, let me tell you, i've got more of tomorrow's papers to come. also my pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. plus, we will be revealing the results of our text poll. it's the mark dolan tonight people's poll . can dolan tonight people's poll. can britain afford a labour government ? we'll discuss all of government? we'll discuss all of that and reveal the results of that and reveal the results of that poll after this .

welcome back to the show. let me tell you, i'm hosting co—hosting . let me tell you, i'm going to be the junior partner to the brilliant bev turner tomorrow for to the point 930 until until how long is that show? who knows? i think it's 2.5 hours. so it's good that i don't know isn't it? can't wait for that

love. bev turner. so i'll be on your box. sick of the sight of me, let's be honest. but tomorrow if you're tomorrow at 930, if you're knocking tell knocking about and let me tell you, a big debate wasn't that amazing? fascinating debate about figure for about what is a good figure for net should we have net migration? should we have as much god much as we currently do? god knows, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make lazyielp us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make lazy people in the future, make lazy people get work and stop get back to work and stop claiming benefits . miss cathy claiming benefits. miss cathy not punches . let's not pulling her punches. let's have look now the results have a look now at the results of our text poll. we were asking would labour government would a labour government bankrupt britain? the results are in. 77% say yes, 23% say no. the people have spoken. okay, i've got more front pages thanks to garner and abigail. i've got more front pages thanks to garner and abigail . and we to garner and abigail. and we start with the daily telegraph . start with the daily telegraph. lockdown benefits a drop in the bucket compared to the costs . bucket compared to the costs. this according to a new study. there's a surprise rishi sunak fewer albanians in small boats shows the crackdown on illegal migration is working. next up, we've got the times newspaper unions lambast labour over naive energy plan. gmb follows unite

in criticising proposed ban on new drilling licences for north sea oil and gas. well, that's the topic of my big opinion, which i'm delighted to say that connon which i'm delighted to say that connor, our digital producer, has crafted into an excellent video on twitter at gb news banks turn the screw with a weekend of worse mortgage rates . but neil parish ex—tory mp says those rates will come down. so keep calm and carry on. the sun newspaper as co—star returns . phillip schofield. i won't watch holly. that's absolutely right. philip will be watching to the point with me and bev turner from 930 at 2.5 hours long. you can guarantee that msu— long. you can guarantee that msu mett— long. you can guarantee that mss riemts — long. you can guarantee that know right ? look,- tith you can guarantee that know right ? git know right? look, we've got so much to get through and let's react all of stories react to all of these stories with my pundits, social worker and political commentator yosef david, journalist and political consultant emma burnell and farmer and ex tory mp neil pafish farmer and ex tory mp neil parish , national financial parish, national financial advisor to the british people. mark dolan tonight its economics editor. the mark dolan tonight its economics editor . the reason why mark dolan tonight its economics editor. the reason why is

tssuss— editor. the reason why is tssuss ysu— tzi;t: the reason why is because you bring good news. tissu— because you bring good news. tistsu .— because you bring good news. tistsu . wuss— because you bring good news. listen , we've got— because you bring good news. listen , we've got a— because you bring good news. listen , we've got a little- because you bring good news. listen, we've got a little bit of time just to talk about this story in the telegraph. if lockdown benefits a drop in the bucket compared to the costs . bucket compared to the costs. yosef there's a surprise . well, yosef there's a surprise. well, ihave yosef there's a surprise. well, i have to say that during- i have to say that during tssttsum— i have to say that during tssttstm ,— i have to say that during lockdown , i— i have to say that during lockdown , i adhered to it and lockdown, i adhered to it and i mut— lockdown, i adhered to it and i even had some— lockdown, i adhered to it and i even had some choice words for sssuts— even had some choice words for people ums— even had some choice words for people who didn't— even had some choice words for people who didn't after the tust— people who didn't after the tust. i— people who didn't after the fact. i think— people who didn't after the fact. i think that there does msst— fact. i think that there does msst ts— fact. i think that there does msst ts is— fact. i think that there does need to be some- fact. i think that there does need to be some investigation as to need to be some investigation as ts tis— need to be some investigation as ts tis ssst— need to be some investigation as to the cost benefit— need to be some investigation as to the cost benefit of it. but i witt— to the cost benefit of it. but i sit suy— to the cost benefit of it. but i sit suy tus— to the cost benefit of it. but i will say two words, ishmael , will say two words, ishmael, abdulwahab,_ will say two words, ishmael, abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody smsutt— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody smsutt msu— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody should know that— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody should know that name, that name smsutt— should know that name, that name smsutt is— should know that name, that name smsutt is us— should know that name, that name should be as synonymous and as rsssemisutts— should be as synonymous and as recognisable as— should be as synonymous and as recognisable as victoria climbie and recognisable as victoria climbie umt stuty— recognisable as victoria climbie umt buy it — recognisable as victoria climbie and baby p. that— recognisable as victoria climbie and baby p. that was a 13 year stt— and baby p. that was a 13 year stt ssy— and baby p. that was a 13 year stt tsy ums— and baby p. that was a 13 year old boy who died— and baby p. that was a 13 year old boy who died alone in a msssitut— old boy who died alone in a hospital without— old boy who died alone in a hospital without his parents. ttut— hospital without his parents. ttut is— hospital without his parents. ttut is tsr— hospital without his parents. that is for me— hospital without his parents. that is for me what encapsulates sysrytmime— that is for me what encapsulates sysrytisime mut— that is for me what encapsulates everything that was wrong with our response to— everything that was wrong with our response to covid completely rieists — our response to covid completely rieists tts— our response to covid completely right? the human— our response to covid completely right? the human price- our response to covid completely right? initn i right? the human price that we paid is truly shocking, as well as damage to the economy. and emma, unions lambast labour over naive energy plan. so this is left on left action here. this is friendly fire from the unions

to keir starmer. this is over his plan to not grant new licences to north sea developers if he gets into power slightly bears the lie to your your big opinion that there are keir starmer is completely in the union pockets and does everything they tell him to . a everything they tell him to. a fair point. i think you're right. i mean this is you know, i'm delighted that actually i'm delighted that gmb actually agree this. there i'm delighted that gmb actually agree this . there you go. agree with this. there you go. i trsmt— agree with this. there you go. i tirimt tis— agree with this. there you go. i think the unions— agree with this. there you go. i think the unions have- ethijtii; there you go. i think the unions have got this. atsstutsty. — think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's— think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's got right . think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's got right. i absolutely. it's got it right. i sumt— absolutely. it's got it right. i trust-i— absolutely. it's got it right. i want-i mean,- absolutely. it's got it right. i want-i mean, the- absolutely. it's got it right. i want i mean, the union want to go i mean, the union insurance policy,— want to go i mean, the union insurance policy, don't a insurance policy, don't we, of a bit insurance policy, don't we, of a titlsit— insurance policy, don't we, of a titlsit u— insurance policy, don't we, of a titlsit ulst— insurance policy, don't we, of a bit-oil, a.of-so- bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. - bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. i- bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. i don't disagree with . i have travelled disagree with. i have travelled massively over the last decade on nuclear power because i do do believe that there are trade offs to be made about having a baseline. now, some of the things you said in your big opinion i would massively disagree with, for example , disagree with, for example, solar power, solar is quite an outdated word because it's actually photovoltaic. it's about light power and it doesn't really matter whether the clouds are in or out. we get light. the

sun's really quite a powerful thing. surely it does its job. surely more sun helps. no, ustuutty— surely more sun helps. no, actually not. _ surely more sun helps. no, actually not. as— surely more sun helps. no, actually not. as i- surely more sun helps. no, actually not. as i understand it. with. with. with. with genuine modern photovoltaic. it really doesn't matter whether it's the sunshine or. okay. all right. it's the sunshine or. okay. all riemt. tuit— it's the sunshine or. okay. all right. fair enough.— a okay. all right. fair enough. well, look, the right. fair enough. well, look, tis ssmt— right. fair enough. well, look, the point taken.— right. fair enough. well, look, the point taken. this is the stsu— the point taken. this is the sirsu utss— the point taken. this is the show where the— the point taken. this is the show where the presenter enjoys tsime— show where the presenter enjoys being disagreed— show where the presenter enjoys being disagreed with. �*titttzi; �*titttzi; being disagreed with. we do. we are being disagreed with. we do. we urs-ueumst— being disagreed with. we do. we are against the clock. so are a bit against the clock. so could to us your headline could we get to us your headline hero today ? so who's caught your hero today? so who's caught your eye? is suella braverman and the umuzime— eye? is suella braverman and the amazing-braverman- tiytzifi’ is suella braverman and the amazing braverman who is amazing suella braverman who is tusttime— amazing suella braverman who is tusttime rst— amazing suella braverman who is tackling red tape— amazing suella braverman who is tackling red tape and non—crime tuts— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents will— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents will no longer be rsssrtst— hate incidents will no longer be recorded unless— hate incidents will no longer be recorded unless they're the most severe examples. _ recorded unless they're the most severe examples. ' severe examples. and this is really ridiculous . this is when really ridiculous. this is when coppers turn up at your house because you sent an unkind facebook message. yes. and she leads facebook message. yes. and she tsuts witt— facebook message. yes. and she tsuts with u— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line.— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line. it— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line. it is- i 3 yes. and she leads with a line. it is not a srimimut— leads with a line. it is not a criminal offence— leads with a line. it is not a criminal offence to hurt ssmststy-s— criminal offence to hurt somebody's feelings. what a ssutis— somebody's feelings. what a ssutis st— somebody's feelings. what a breath of fresh— somebody's feelings. what a breath of fresh air. breath of trest— breath of fresh air. breath of fresh air. how about your headune fresh air. how about your headline hero, neil molly kingsley. she was the one who ssrt— kingsley. she was the one who ssrtlisutst— 3 she was the one who sort headed campaign to sort of headed the campaign to keep—brilliant. . keep schools open. brilliant. stsu— keep schools open. brilliant. stss tis— keep schools open. brilliant. stop the masks— keep schools open. brilliant. stop the masks being worn in sstssts— stop the masks being worn in schools because— stop the masks being worn in schools because we've got a wuss— schools because we've got a whole generation really , that

whole generation really, that suttsrst— whole generation really, that suffered -the _ whole generation really, that suffered the lockdowns in suffered from the lockdowns in sstssts— suffered from the lockdowns in ssmssts. i— suffered from the lockdowns in schools. i mean,— suffered from the lockdowns in schools. i mean, we took the necessary medical advice at the tims,— necessary medical advice at the tims-msssu- necessary medical advice at the tims-msvst .- necessary medical advice at the time,-moved . and,- necessary medical advice at the time, moved . and, you time, but it all moved. and, you msu,— time, but it all moved. and, you tussltst— time, but it all moved. and, you know,llot.people- time, but it all moved. and, you know, lot people suffered. know, a lot of people suffered. ana— know, a lot of people suffered. amt—i— know, a lot of people suffered. amt—i tivst- know, a lot of people suffered. and, i lived through and, you know, i lived through an and, you know, i lived through um-tims— and, you know, i lived through an-time really- and, you know, i lived through an time really over an agonising time really over all an agonising time really over uti-stutt— an agonising time really over all-stuff where- an agonising time really over all stuff where you were all this stuff where you were eivsm— all this stuff where you were given conflicting medical advice and given conflicting medical advice uut-tist— given conflicting medical advice uut-trsu us— given conflicting medical advice and-tried as an— given conflicting medical advice and tried as an mp to and you tried as an mp to ustuutty— and you tried as an mp to actually-the- and you tried as an mp to actually the right decision actually make the right decision . ssmstimss— actually make the right decision . sometimes we— actually make the right decision . sometimes we did, sometimes we tism-t— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tism-t .— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tism-t . amt— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tism-t . amt st— . sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't . and of course, you know, didn't. and of course, you know, it-horrendous. _ didn't. and of course, you know, it-horrendous. but- didn't. and of course, you know, it horrendous. but think it was horrendous. but i think sis— it was horrendous. but i think sis-ersut— it was horrendous. but i think sis-esut ist- it was horrendous. but i think she-great job in- it was horrendous. but i think she great job in actually she did a great job in actually tryime— she did a great job in actually tryimeltsss— she did a great job in actually trying keep those schools trying to keep those schools sssm— trying to keep those schools open because _ trying to keep those schools open because it's not just about stusutism,— open because it's not just about education, it's— open because it's not just about education, it's about socialisation as well. and you usm-t— socialisation as well. and you usm-t timu— socialisation as well. and you won't find anyone _ socialisation as well. and you won't find anyone that's willing to won't find anyone that's willing ts ussmt— won't find anyone that's willing to defend school— won't find anyone that's willing to defend school closures. \ttif.t�*trt" to defend school closures. now, tistsm— to defend school closures. now, tistsu. immu— to defend school closures. now, listen, emma, what about your headune listen, emma, what about your headline hero who's caught your eye, who's in your good books? uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. tritium.— uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. brilliant, brilliant— uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. brilliant, brilliant series on is it apple tv? apple tv . we've is it apple tv? apple tv. we've had the finale of the— a s?’ . we've had the finale of the finales umt— had the finale of the finales umt i— had the finale of the finales umt i srisi— had the finale of the finales and i cried through the whole time. — and i cried through the whole time. mis— and i cried through the whole thing. this is— and i cried through the whole thing. this is a— and i cried through the whole thing. n i: thing. this is a comedy show. could you give us a kind of one line? it's a comedy show about a goofy american who got randomly and through a very sort of twist plotline, brought in to run a

premiership football team and what i love about it, as aiden, your wonderful sports commentator , aidan magee, i know commentator, aidan magee, i know absolutely nothing about football. he has told me to use tits— football. he has told me to use tits pisse— football. he has told me to use this phrase, that's— football. he has told me to use this phrase, that's the- he has told me to use this phrase, that's the magic of the this phrase, that's the magic of tis tu— this phrase, that's the magic of tis tit sus— this phrase, that's the magic of tis tit sus ,— this phrase, that's the magic of ms it sue , tut— this phrase, that's the magic of the fa cup , but it's a great the fa cup, but it's a great tssttutt— the fa cup, but it's a great football show— the fa cup, but it's a great football show that does just the tssttutt— football show that does just the tssttutt tust— football show that does just the football just well— football show that does just the football just well enough . but football just well enough. but umut— football just well enough. but umut its— football just well enough. but what it's really— football just well enough. but what it's really about is human mumm— what it's really about is human tumum tsimes— what it's really about is human tumum isimes .— what it's really about is human human beings . and ted lasso is human beings. and ted lasso is a tists— human beings. and ted lasso is a ttsts umt— human beings. and ted lasso is a ttsts umt iss-s— human beings. and ted lasso is a bloke and he's a— human beings. and ted lasso is a bloke and he's a proper american tists— bloke and he's a proper american ttsts umt— bloke and he's a proper american ttsts umt is— bloke and he's a proper american bloke and he doesn't mess around witt— bloke and he doesn't mess around with tsime— bloke and he doesn't mess around with isime u— bloke and he doesn't mess around with being a bloke,— bloke and he doesn't mess around with being a bloke, but he is a bit with being a bloke, but he is a tit tits— with being a bloke, but he is a bit like neil— with being a bloke, but he is a bit like neil parish, but like tstt— bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. _ bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. but- bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. but even lovelier. how was that possible , if you how was that possible, if you can? was it one of those lockdown shows at the start or as i understand it, although i didn't watch it during lockdown, right? no, because well, look, i trsmt— right? no, because well, look, i tirimt its— right? no, because well, look, i tirimt it-s u— right? no, because well, look, i think it's a brilliant— , gn7 no, because well, look, i think it's a brilliant show. very— think it's a brilliant show. very sstt— think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. - think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. so - think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. so well done to . so what about to ted lasso. so what about where start with our where should we start with our back? yossef, who's back? page zero. yossef, who's who's in your bad books tonight? so it has to be roger

so for me, it has to be roger ttutsrs— so for me, it has to be roger ttutsrs tsr— so for me, it has to be roger waters for donning a outfit. waters for his donning a outfit. stsstiue— waters for his donning a outfit. stsstme sseus— waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit— waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit using- waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit using the memory of anne frank deeply, deeply offensive and also plagiarising prince harry's wardrobe. so well put . but it's wardrobe. so well put. but it's he's compared himself to jeremy corbyn and i have to say that there are a couple of things that they have in common. neither of them have very many good things to say about our country, and them have country, and both of them have a lot empathy for some lot of empathy for some of the most odious enemies that our country appalling country has a truly appalling few seconds, neil, for back few seconds, neil, for your back page newman, who page zero. ben newman, who amimut—tmsl page zero. ben newman, who. animal—who have animal rising activists who have sturess— animal rising activists who have sturess sm— animal rising activists who have smuress sm ts— animal rising activists who have charges on to the— animal rising activists who have charges on to the court x—men ssmy— charges on to the court x—men tsrty mst— charges on to the court x—men ssmy mst smty— charges on to the court x—men derby not only putting himself at derby not only putting himself ut tist— derby not only putting himself ut rist ttut— derby not only putting himself at risk that the _ derby not only putting himself at risk that the security guards umt— at risk that the security guards umt st— at risk that the security guards and of course— at risk that the security guards and of course if— at risk that the security guards and of course if he actually titsrutty— and of course if he actually titsrutty est— and of course if he actually literally got out— and of course if he actually literally got out in front of tis— literally got out in front of tis irsss— literally got out in front of the horses there could have been irsss— the horses there could have been irsss umt— the horses there could have been horses and riders— the horses there could have been horses and riders killed as sstt— horses and riders killed as well.-goodness- horses and riders killed as well. goodness sake, you well. so for goodness sake, you msrt— well. so for goodness sake, you msut—esssl know, horse riding that goes mett— know, horse riding that goes rieist tis— know, horse riding that goes rieist ms suy— know, horse riding that goes right the way through, not just zuru— right the way through, not just zuru atssmu— right the way through, not just zara aleena right the way tmrsuem. — zara aleena right the way through. let— zara aleena right the way through. let me- zara aleena right the way through. let me tell you that. emma's back. page zero. liz truss for pushing for- truss for pushing for inheritance- truss for pushing for inheritance cuts for the

inheritance tax cuts for the risisst— inheritance tax cuts for the risisst .y._ inheritance tax cuts for the richest 4% while the rest of us strueets. — richest 4% while the rest of us struggle. thank— richest 4% while the rest of us struggle. thank my struggle. thank you to my uumtits— struggle. thank you to my pundits. tomorrow struggle. thank you to my- pundits.-tomorrow at struggle. thank you to my- pundsee-tomorrow at struggle. thank you to my pundsee then:omorrow at struggle. thank you to my pundsee then . iorrow at struggle. thank you to my pundsee then . w at struggle. thank you to my- pundsee-then . i'm jacob 930. see you then. i'm jacob rees—mogg, the member of parliament for north east somerset and a former government minister. for years i have walked the corridors of power in both the city of both westminster and the city of london. we need to the london. we need to have the arguments discussions arguments, the discussions on how it better crop how we make it better crop failures, famine, war, suffering on a scale completely unimaginable. we are putting the cart before the horse as charles the first said at the scaffold, he was the true defender of liberty. yeah, i've completely tsruitst— liberty. yeah, i've completely derailed the _ c yeah, i've completely derailed the conversation. n c yeah, i've completely deru: conversation. n c yeah, i've completely deruiititntirity aittnversation. n liberty. yeah, i've completely derumonday to thursdayi. join liberty. yeah, i've completely derumonday to thursday at join liberty. yeah, i've completely derumonday to thursday at 8iin liberty. yeah, i've completely derumonday to thursday at 8 pm. me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on gb news, britain's news

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