tv Mark Dolan Tonight Replay GB News June 5, 2023 3:00am-5:00am BST
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introduction. i am that lovely introduction. i am bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom . stories from the gb newsroom. the immigration minister says the uk's asylum system is riddled with abuse and that the government must reduce its reliance on hotels to house migrant . reliance on hotels to house migrant. it's after reliance on hotels to house migrant . it's after protests migrant. it's after protests were held outside a hotel in central london where migrants were asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said it's wrong for migrants to demand better accommodation while their asylum claims are processed . he also said the uk processed. he also said the uk is spending £6 million a day on hotels and that asking migrants to share a room is necessary to get value for taxpayers money. remember these are migrants who have— remember these are migrants who have said— remember these are migrants who have said they— remember these are migrants who have said they are— remember these are migrants who have said they are destitute . have said they are destitute. they-ve— have said they are destitute. they-ve said— have said they are destitute. they've said that they have absolutely— they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends,— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family , no money. friends, no family, no money. and— friends, no family, no money. and the— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing— and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good quality— and providing them with good quality accommodation and board and lodgings.— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and— quality accommodation and board and lodgings. and so those i think— and lodgings. and so those i think those— and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong
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to protest— think those migrants are wrong to protest ant— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say— think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve— to protest and say that they deserve to— to protest and say that they deserve to have— to protest and say that they deserve to have single bedrooms wttt— deserve to have single bedrooms wttt en— deserve to have single bedrooms wttt en sette— deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. with en suite bathrooms and so ant— with en suite bathrooms and so ant tee— with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense— on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have treated— common sense seems to have petettet tn— common sense seems to have prevailed in this— common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. dorset pettee— prevailed in this case. dorset pettee tave— prevailed in this case. dorset police have named a 17 year old boy— police have named a 17 year old toy whe— police have named a 17 year old toy wte ttet— police have named a 17 year old boy who died after— police have named a 17 year old boy who died after getting into ttttteutty— boy who died after getting into ttttteutty tn— boy who died after getting into difficulty in the _ boy who died after getting into difficulty in the water off bournemouth _ difficulty in the water off bournemouth beach on wednesday . bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe attes— bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe attte teem — bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe abbas from southampton- bournemouth beach on wednesday. joe abbas from southampton died after being pulled from the sea. in a statement, his family said they were heartbroken and devastated, describing him as a fabulous young man, a 12 year old girl named in reports as sunak khan from high wycombe in buckinghamshire also died in the incident, which involved ten swimmers, a site seeing boat named the dorset belle has been impounded by police . a man has impounded by police. a man has been charged after allegedly wearing a shirt to the fa cup final yesterday , which appeared final yesterday, which appeared to have an offensive reference to have an offensive reference to the hillsborough disaster. 33 year old james white from warwickshire has been charged with displaying , threatening or with displaying, threatening or abusive writing and is expected
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to appear at willesden magistrates court next week . 97 magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool fans died in 1989 at hillsborough stadium in sheffield . authorities in india sheffield. authorities in india say a signal problem was likely responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades . as worst train crash in decades. as 275 people were killed in the accident and another 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second passing train . prime second passing train. prime minister narendra modi has vowed to punish anyone found responsible . and a labour mp has responsible. and a labour mp has told gb news victims are too scared to complain about sexual predators . scared to complain about sexual predators. in parliament. charlotte nicholls said harassment is baked into every single part of how westminster operates. she also accused the labour party of choosing not to act on concerns raised about a number of colleagues over a very long period. her comments come after she revealed being handed
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after she revealed being handed a list of 30 mps she should avoid when first becoming an mp . you're up to date on tv online .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb views news. now it's back to . to. marki i thanks, to. matt— . thanks, bethany. welcome to thanks, bethany. welcome to mark . thanks, bethany. welcome to meet deten— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight— . thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight in- thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big eptntee— mark dolan tonight in my big eptnten, tt— mark dolan tonight in my big eptnten, tt you— mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, if you think things are tet— opinion, if you think things are tat-new,— opinion, if you think things are bad-now, wait— opinion, if you think things are bad-now, wait for- opinion, if you think things are bad now, wait for prime bad right now, wait for prime mtntetet— bad right now, wait for prime minister starmer. britain can't attent— minister starmer. britain can't affordllabour_ minister starmer. britain can't afford labour government in afford a labour government in the ttg— afford a labour government in the ttg story— afford a labour government in the ttg etety ee— afford a labour government in the big story as rowan atkinson eate— the big story as rowan atkinson eeye te— the big story as rowan atkinson eeye te teete— the big story as rowan atkinson says he feels conned. our eteettte— says he feels conned. our electric cars— says he feels conned. our electric cars are- says he feels conned. our electric cars are a waste of tree. — electric cars are a waste of tree. t-tt— electric cars are a waste of tree. m te— electric cars are a waste of time. i'll be asking former top gear— time. i'll be asking former top gear presenter— time. i'll be asking former top gear presenter quentin willson ttve— gear presenter quentin willson ttve tn— gear presenter quentin willson ttve tn tne — gear presenter quentin willson live in the studio— gear presenter quentin willson live in the studio now. and as retent— live in the studio now. and as ttent senat— live in the studio now. and as rishi sunak heads to america, is the rishi sunak heads to america, is tne spectat— rishi sunak heads to america, is the special relationship at an all the special relationship at an at ttne— the special relationship at an all time low?— the special relationship at an all time low? i'll— the special relationship at an all time low.7 i'll be asking margaret— all time low.7 i'll be asking margaret thatcher's former etvteen— margaret thatcher's former adviser, nigel— margaret thatcher's former adviser, nigel gardiner , live adviser, nigel gardiner, live tren— adviser, nigel gardiner, live from washington, dc . my mark from washington, dc. my mark neete— from washington, dc. my mark neete guest— from washington, dc. my mark neets guest ts— from washington, dc. my mark meets guest is popular boris
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sunnentng— meets guest is popular boris suppentng ten— meets guest is popular boris supporting tory mp david morris . ant— supporting tory mp david morris . ant tn— supporting tory mp david morris . ant tn ny— supporting tory mp david morris . and in my take— supporting tory mp david morris . and in my take at ten grinning nttttenette— . and in my take at ten grinning millionaire holly— . and in my take at ten grinning millionaire holly willoughby nttt— millionaire holly willoughby will address— millionaire holly willoughby will address the nation tomorrow as sne— will address the nation tomorrow as sne retrns— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to the this nerntne— as she returns to the this morning sofa.— as she returns to the this morning sofa. she thinks this nit— morning sofa. she thinks this nttt te— morning sofa. she thinks this nttt te tne— morning sofa. she thinks this will be the last— morning sofa. she thinks this will be the last word, but the story— will be the last word, but the story nes— will be the last word, but the story nos only— will be the last word, but the story has only just begun. you wont— story has only just begun. you wont nont— story has only just begun. you wont wont to— story has only just begun. you won't want to miss my unapologetic- won't want to miss my unapologetic reaction to the snonttz— unapologetic reaction to the snonttz story— unapologetic reaction to the showbiz story of— unapologetic reaction to the showbiz story of the year. and let showbiz story of the year. and tet ne— showbiz story of the year. and tet ne tett— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you ,_ showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you , i— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you , i won't be let me tell you, i won't be pulling— let me tell you, i won't be pulling ny— let me tell you, i won't be pulling my punches . that's at pulling my punches. that's at ten.— pulling my punches. that's at ten. atso— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will tax— pulling my punches. that's at ten. also will tax cuts save the tones— ten. also will tax cuts save the tortes 7— ten. also will tax cuts save the tortes e t-tt— ten. also will tax cuts save the tories .7 i'll be— ten. also will tax cuts save the tories .7 i'll be asking tonight's tories.7 i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , politics legend ann newsmaker, politics legend ann wroteeonte— newsmaker, politics legend ann wroteoonte .— newsmaker, politics legend ann widdecombe . also, is it time to widdecombe. also, is it time to treet— widdecombe. also, is it time to erect tonn— widdecombe. also, is it time to crack down on— widdecombe. also, is it time to crack down on westminster sex pests— crack down on westminster sex nests e— crack down on westminster sex pests e nort— crack down on westminster sex pests .7 mark dolan tonight is the pests? mark dolan tonight is the none— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the tone ot— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the tone ot tne— pests.7 mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers pests? mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's— home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages at exootty— tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 _ tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp with three top ounttts— exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who— exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who haven't been tott— top pundits who haven't been tott onet— top pundits who haven't been tott nnot to— top pundits who haven't been told what to say— top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't totton— told what to say and who don't totton tne— told what to say and who don't follow the script.— told what to say and who don't follow the script. tonight soetot— follow the script. tonight social worker— follow the script. tonight social worker and political commentator— social worker and political commentator yosef david, a brand stor— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on mark— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on mark dolan tonight. hi, new star on mark dolan tonight. nt, roset— new star on mark dolan tonight. nt, voset, o— new star on mark dolan tonight. hi, yosef, a journalist and ootttteot— hi, yosef, a journalist and political consulting emma burnett— political consulting emma burnell and— political consulting emma burnell and farmer and former
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eonsenottve— burnell and farmer and former conservative mp— burnell and farmer and former conservative mp neil parish . conservative mp neil parish. tontont— conservative mp neil parish. tontgnt t-tt— conservative mp neil parish. tonight i'll be— conservative mp neil parish. tonight i'll be asking the ounttts— tonight i'll be asking the pundits, would you pay more for your— pundits, would you pay more for your groenes— pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to _ pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to save the otonete— your groceries to save the planet? should - your groceries to save the planet? should bad parkers be outttety— planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed— planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed ? and is sir publicly shamed? and is sir roger— publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's— publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's son right that renes— roger moore's son right that tones nont— roger moore's son right that james bond should always be nrtttsne— james bond should always be nrtttsne drop— james bond should always be british? drop me— james bond should always be british? drop me an email tnrougnout— british? drop me an email throughout the— british? drop me an email throughout the show, mark at cbnnews.com and this program has a cbnnews.com and this program has o gotten— cbnnews.com and this program has o gotten rue.— cbnnews.com and this program has o gotten rute. a— cbnnews.com and this program has a golden rule. a very strict tre— a golden rule. a very strict one. we don't— a golden rule. a very strict one. we don't do boring. not on my rotten.— one. we don't do boring. not on my noten. .— one. we don't do boring. not on my noten. trust— one. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so my watch. i just won't have it. so o— my watch. i just won't have it. so o busy— my watch. i just won't have it. so o tusy two— my watch. i just won't have it. so a busy two hours to come. tet-s— so a busy two hours to come. tet-s ston— so a busy two hours to come. let's start with— so a busy two hours to come. let's start with my big opinion . 0n— let's start with my big opinion . on fortunately,— let's start with my big opinion . on fortunately, we're between a . on fortunately, we're between t rost— . on fortunately, we're between t root ont— . on fortunately, we're between t root and o— . on fortunately, we're between a rock and a hard— . on fortunately, we're between a rock and a hard place as a country— a rock and a hard place as a country .— a rock and a hard place as a country . tne— a rock and a hard place as a country . the tories are terrible country. the tories are terrible sottttng— country. the tories are terrible sottttng us— country. the tories are terrible saddling us with— country. the tories are terrible saddling us with a mountain of tent— saddling us with a mountain of debt tron— saddling us with a mountain of debt from their— saddling us with a mountain of debt from their shocking covid oereton— debt from their shocking covid overreaction when _ debt from their shocking covid overreaction when in power turtng— overreaction when in power turtng tne— overreaction when in power during the insider us woke takeover— during the insider us woke takeover of— during the insider us woke takeover of our— during the insider us woke takeover of our public institutions- takeover of our public institutions and presiding over snoettng— institutions and presiding over shocking inflation exploding
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tnterest— shocking inflation exploding interest rates— shocking inflation exploding interest rates and the highest tax interest rates and the highest tor turten— interest rates and the highest tax burden in— interest rates and the highest tax burden in 70— interest rates and the highest tax burden in 70 years. but if you— tax burden in 70 years. but if you tntnt— tax burden in 70 years. but if you think that's— tax burden in 70 years. but if you think that's bad, wait till totour— you think that's bad, wait till totour gets— you think that's bad, wait till labour gets in.— you think that's bad, wait till labour gets in. are you telling me tnot— labour gets in. are you telling me tnot tney— labour gets in. are you telling me that they will— labour gets in. are you telling me that they will stand firm as sunot— me that they will stand firm as sunot ts— me that they will stand firm as sunot ts to— me that they will stand firm as sunak is to the— me that they will stand firm as sunak is to the unions ? sunak is to the unions? tnttotton— sunak is to the unions? inflation busting wage demands rotten— inflation busting wage demands nnton noutt— inflation busting wage demands which would bake high prices and tunner— which would bake high prices and turtner tent— which would bake high prices and further debt into— which would bake high prices and further debt into the system for years— further debt into the system for years to— further debt into the system for years to one— further debt into the system for years to come. the— further debt into the system for years to come. the public sector nttt— years to come. the public sector nttt te— years to come. the public sector will be expecting— years to come. the public sector will be expecting a— years to come. the public sector will be expecting a bonanza with cost— will be expecting a bonanza with cost armour at— will be expecting a bonanza with cost armour at number 10. given the cost armour at number 10. given tne toot— cost armour at number 10. given tne toot tnot— cost armour at number 10. given the fact that his— cost armour at number 10. given the fact that his party is bankrolled_ the fact that his party is bankrolled by- the fact that his party is bankrolled by the aforementioned ont— bankrolled by the aforementioned unions and most— bankrolled by the aforementioned unions and most of the public setor— unions and most of the public sector are labour's electoral eonstttuenoy— sector are labour's electoral sonstttueney .— sector are labour's electoral constituency , they want to constituency, they want to enutote — constituency, they want to emulate disastrous joe biden's so—eottet— emulate disastrous joe biden's so—called inflation reduction act nttn— so—called inflation reduction act nttn o— so—called inflation reduction act with a capital spending spurge— act with a capital spending soturge ot— act with a capital spending soturge ot ug— act with a capital spending splurge of up to £55 billion, nnton— splurge of up to £55 billion, nnton nit— splurge of up to £55 billion, which will sink— splurge of up to £55 billion, which will sink the country turtner— which will sink the country further into— which will sink the country further into the— which will sink the country further into the red. well, red is further into the red. well, red ts totour-s— further into the red. well, red is labour's colour— further into the red. well, red is labour's colour after all. as an organisation,— is labour's colour after all. as an organisation, labour have teen— an organisation, labour have been drinking— an organisation, labour have
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been drinking the net zero toot—att— been drinking the net zero kool—aid as— been drinking the net zero kool—aid as well, with plans now for kool—aid as well, with plans now tor o— kool—aid as well, with plans now tor o retes— kool—aid as well, with plans now for a 1970s style— kool—aid as well, with plans now for a 1970s style energy company rotten— for a 1970s style energy company nnton nit— for a 1970s style energy company which will gamble— for a 1970s style energy company which will gamble taxpayer tttttons— which will gamble taxpayer billions on— which will gamble taxpayer billions on flaky renewables . billions on flaky renewables. aaeonnttte— billions on flaky renewables. meanwhile, keir— billions on flaky renewables. meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant— meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant ony— meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant any ne— meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant any gos— meanwhile, keir starmer will not grant any new gas or oil tteenoes— grant any new gas or oil ttoenees tn— grant any new gas or oil licences in the- grant any new gas or oil licences in the north sea should he licences in the north sea should ne get— licences in the north sea should ne get tnto— licences in the north sea should he get into power— licences in the north sea should he get into power now. what do you— he get into power now. what do you tntnt— he get into power now. what do you think that's— he get into power now. what do you think that's going to do to energy— you think that's going to do to energy onees— you think that's going to do to energy onees os— you think that's going to do to energy prices as we rely increasingly— energy prices as we rely increasingly on wind mills that oetes— increasingly on wind mills that sometimes turn— increasingly on wind mills that sometimes turn and sometimes ton-t,— sometimes turn and sometimes ton-t, ont— sometimes turn and sometimes ton-t, and sour— sometimes turn and sometimes don't, and solar panels in a tonousty— don't, and solar panels in a famously overcast country to not exotott— famously overcast country to not exotott or— famously overcast country to not exploit our own— famously overcast country to not exploit our own natural resources will- exploit our own natural resources will likely see us rety— resources will likely see us rety on— resources will likely see us rely on backup— resources will likely see us rely on backup from foreign tyrants— rely on backup from foreign tyronts atte— rely on backup from foreign tyrants like vladimir putin or unscrupulous— tyrants like vladimir putin or unscrupulous regimes like saudi arotto— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arotto .— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arotto gust— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arotto ri'ust to— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia ,just to fill— unscrupulous regimes like saudi arabia , just to fill the gap . arabia, just to fill the gap. tt-s— arabia, just to fill the gap. tt-s ny— arabia, just to fill the gap. rt-s rny ten— arabia, just to fill the gap. it's my view that the windfall tax it's my view that the windfall too on — it's my view that the windfall too on energy— it's my view that the windfall tax on energy companies make a great— tax on energy companies make a great neotttne,— tax on energy companies make a great headline, but— tax on energy companies make a great headline, but is a terrttte— great headline, but is a terrible policy . those companies terrible policy. those companies nno— terrible policy. those companies nno ne— terrible policy. those companies who we are currently clobbering nit— who we are currently clobbering nttt stnoty— who we are currently clobbering will simply take— who we are currently clobbering will simply take their investment- will simply take their investment to explore new
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renenottes— investment to explore new renewables elsewhere . and what renewables elsewhere. and what do renewables elsewhere. and what to aaron— renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want— renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want to _ renewables elsewhere. and what do labour want to do to these ones— do labour want to do to these companies with— do labour want to do to these companies with whom we are in pennersnto— companies with whom we are in pennersntn to— companies with whom we are in partnership to guarantee future energy— partnership to guarantee future energy suoottes— partnership to guarantee future energy suppttes .— partnership to guarantee future energy supplies , increase those energy supplies, increase those ntnttott— energy supplies, increase those windfall taxes?— energy supplies, increase those windfall taxes? mark my words , windfall taxes? mark my words, tney— windfall taxes? mark my words, tney nit— windfall taxes? mark my words, tney nttt run— windfall taxes? mark my words, they will run for— windfall taxes? mark my words, they will run for the hills now. yes:— they will run for the hills now. yes .— they will run for the hills now. yes . nont— they will run for the hills now. yes . wont to— they will run for the hills now. yes, i want to go— they will run for the hills now. yes, i want to go green and get tnose— yes, i want to go green and get tnose stront— yes, i want to go green and get those carbon emissions down and green— those carbon emissions down and green energy— those carbon emissions down and green energy ts— those carbon emissions down and green energy ts o— those carbon emissions down and green energy is a great ootenttot— green energy is a great potential opportunity for nrttotn— potential opportunity for nrttotn .— potential opportunity for britain . we— potential opportunity for britain . we lead the world in britain. we lead the world in green— britain. we lead the world in green teen— britain. we lead the world in green tech and— britain. we lead the world in green tech and countless jobs soutt— green tech and countless jobs soutt te— green tech and countless jobs could be created,— green tech and countless jobs could be created, but not nttnout— could be created, but not without oil— could be created, but not without oil and gas on our own nsores— without oil and gas on our own nsores os tne— without oil and gas on our own shores as the ultimate insurance potty— shores as the ultimate insurance oottey tn— shores as the ultimate insurance oottey tn o— shores as the ultimate insurance policy in a dangerous and unpredictable— policy in a dangerous and unpredictable world. energy seeurtty— unpredictable world. energy seeurtty ts— unpredictable world. energy security is national security . security is national security. crazy— security is national security. crazy green— security is national security. crazy green policies already tnot— crazy green policies already mean that we— crazy green policies already mean that we now have to import snote— mean that we now have to import snote gos— mean that we now have to import snote gos tron— mean that we now have to import shale gas from joe— mean that we now have to import shale gas from joe biden and the untest— shale gas from joe biden and the united states. _ shale gas from joe biden and the united states. when we've got snote— united states. when we've got shale natural— united states. when we've got shale natural gas— united states. when we've got shale natural gas oil. and dare i shale natural gas oil. and dare . soy— shale natural gas oil. and dare . soy rt— shale natural gas oil. and dare . soy tt .— shale natural gas oil. and dare r soy tt , soot— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it , coal on— shale natural gas oil. and dare i say it, coal on our own doorstep— i say it, coal on our own toorsteo up.— i say it, coal on our own doorstep up. make it make sense and o— doorstep up. make it make sense and o tuture—
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doorstep up. make it make sense and a future labour— doorstep up. make it make sense and a future labour government nit— and a future labour government nttt tote— and a future labour government nttt tote us— and a future labour government will take us further down the green— will take us further down the green retort— will take us further down the green rabbit hole . a once green rabbit hole. a once tnpresstve— green rabbit hole. a once impressive party under the teetersnto— impressive party under the leadership of— impressive party under the leadership of tony blair who got tntngs— leadership of tony blair who got some things wrong, but plenty rtgnt— some things wrong, but plenty rtgnt ere— some things wrong, but plenty right were elected on a message of right were elected on a message ot ton— right were elected on a message ot ton tox— right were elected on a message of low tax social— right were elected on a message of low tax social mobility. and tnree— of low tax social mobility. and tnree greet— of low tax social mobility. and three great words— of low tax social mobility. and three great words education, etueotton— three great words education, education, education, action. under— education, education, action. under starmer— education, education, action. under starmer it— education, education, action. under starmer it will be spend, spent— under starmer it will be spend, spent .— under starmer it will be spend, spent , spent— under starmer it will be spend, spend , spend and— under starmer it will be spend, spend , spend and we will all be spend, spend and we will all be paying— spend, spend and we will all be poytng tne— spend, spend and we will all be paying the price— spend, spend and we will all be paying the price -_ spend, spend and we will all be paying the price . labour wants paying the price. labour wants to tnereose— paying the price. labour wants to increase foreign aid just as nrtts— to increase foreign aid just as one struggte— to increase foreign aid just as brits struggle to— to increase foreign aid just as brits struggle to put food on the brits struggle to put food on tne totte— brits struggle to put food on the table while— brits struggle to put food on the table while sending millions to otres— the table while sending millions to countries like— the table while sending millions to countries like india who have tnetr— to countries like india who have tnetr on— to countries like india who have their own space— to countries like india who have their own space programme . make their own space programme. make it their own space programme. make tt note— their own space programme. make tt note sense— their own space programme. make it make sense they're going to gtve— it make sense they're going to gtve tne— it make sense they're going to gtye tne uns— it make sense they're going to give the nhs more money. a pay _ give the nhs more money. a pay to— give the nhs more money. a pay to ets— give the nhs more money. a pay to ets .— give the nhs more money. a pay rise to gps , more— give the nhs more money. a pay rise to gps , more nurses, more rise to gps, more nurses, more pottee— rise to gps, more nurses, more pottee otttoers— rise to gps, more nurses, more pottee ottteers .— rise to gps, more nurses, more police officers , more doctors. police officers, more doctors. unet— police officers, more doctors. unot ptonet— police officers, more doctors. what planet do— police officers, more doctors. what planet do they live on? wno-s— what planet do they live on? uno-s gotng— what planet do they live on? uno-s gotng to— what planet do they live on? who's going to pay for this? tosy. — who's going to pay for this? tosy. vou— who's going to pay for this? rosy. you ont— who's going to pay for this? easy. you and me, labour are teepty— easy. you and me, labour are deeply dishonest.— easy. you and me, labour are deeply dishonest. when they sell tnetr— deeply dishonest. when they sell tnetr spenttng— deeply dishonest. when they sell their spending plans is about a so oottet—
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their spending plans is about a so called non—dom tax rise . so called non—dom tax rise. tnot-s— so called non—dom tax rise. tnot-s rtgtt— so called non—dom tax rise. that's right. they- so called non—dom tax rise. that's right. they reckon they spent— that's right. they reckon they spent ott— that's right. they reckon they can spend all this money on putte— can spend all this money on public services— can spend all this money on public services based upon the non—otrn — public services based upon the non—otrn tox— public services based upon the non—dom tax rise.— public services based upon the non—dom tax rise. now this is a pton— non—dom tax rise. now this is a pton to— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber rich— non—dom tax rise. now this is a plan to clobber rich foreigners nno— plan to clobber rich foreigners nno note— plan to clobber rich foreigners who make their— plan to clobber rich foreigners who make their home here the most— who make their home here the most tnet— who make their home here the most that will— who make their home here the most that will achieve is £35 ttttton— most that will achieve is £35 ttttton. nut— most that will achieve is £35 billion. but it's— most that will achieve is £35 billion. but it's possible that torety— billion. but it's possible that torety ony— billion. but it's possible that torety ony ot— billion. but it's possible that barely any of that will be reset— barely any of that will be raised because- barely any of that will be raised because you might have noted— raised because you might have noted tnet— raised because you might have noticed that these rich people are noticed that these rich people pretty— noticed that these rich people are pretty mobile— noticed that these rich people are pretty mobile people and tney— are pretty mobile people and tney too— are pretty mobile people and tney too nit— are pretty mobile people and they too will run— are pretty mobile people and they too will run for the hills. ant— they too will run for the hills. ant nno — they too will run for the hills. and who could— they too will run for the hills. and who could blame them? you've got to— and who could blame them? you've got to ost— and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself— and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself ,_ and who could blame them? you've got to ask yourself , do you want got to ask yourself, do you want tnese— got to ask yourself, do you want tnese non — got to ask yourself, do you want these rich people— got to ask yourself, do you want these rich people living in this country— these rich people living in this country puytng— these rich people living in this country buying their rolls—royces here and investing nere— rolls—royces here and investing nere or— rolls—royces here and investing nere or to— rolls—royces here and investing nere or to you— rolls—royces here and investing here or do you want them doing it here or do you want them doing tt tn— here or do you want them doing tt tn outer — here or do you want them doing tt tn outer or— here or do you want them doing it in dubai or singapore ? i'm it in dubai or singapore? i'm very— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sot— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sot tnet— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sad that we— it in dubai or singapore? i'm very sad that we live in an uneguot— very sad that we live in an unequal world. _ very sad that we live in an unequal world. but how does rich peopte— unequal world. but how does rich peopte teoytng— unequal world. but how does rich people leaving britain make us note— people leaving britain make us rtoner 7— people leaving britain make us rtoner a note— people leaving britain make us richer ? make it— people leaving britain make us richer ? make it make sense ? richer? make it make sense? apporentty— richer? make it make sense? apparently millions are going to come from the— apparently millions are going to come from the regressive policy of come from the regressive policy ot toxtng— come from the regressive policy of taxing private _ come from the regressive policy of taxing private schools , which of taxing private schools, which tne— of taxing private schools, which means the poorest— of taxing private schools, which
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means the poorest kids will be toreet— means the poorest kids will be toreet to— means the poorest kids will be forced to leave _ means the poorest kids will be forced to leave and go into state— forced to leave and go into state education.— forced to leave and go into state education. any gain from tnts— state education. any gain from tnts tox— state education. any gain from tnts tor nttt— state education. any gain from this tax will be— state education. any gain from this tax will be lost as the state— this tax will be lost as the state nos— this tax will be lost as the state has to _ this tax will be lost as the state has to now educate the nets— state has to now educate the ttts nno — state has to now educate the kids who leave— state has to now educate the kids who leave the private setor— kids who leave the private setor ant— kids who leave the private sector. and we— kids who leave the private sector. and we already don't nove— sector. and we already don't nove enougn— sector. and we already don't have enough school places . so have enough school places. so tnet— have enough school places. so tnot ens— have enough school places. so that means we'd— have enough school places. so that means we'd have to build more schools— that means we'd have to build more schools as— that means we'd have to build more schools as well . make it more schools as well. make it note— more schools as well. make it make sense . labour say they will make sense. labour say they will bounce— make sense. labour say they will totonoe tne— make sense. labour say they will balance the books— make sense. labour say they will balance the books and cost every pottey— balance the books and cost every pottey eoretutty— balance the books and cost every pottey eoretutty .— balance the books and cost every policy carefully , but at the policy carefully, but at the tne— policy carefully, but at the same time their proposing free enttteore— same time their proposing free childcare for— same time their proposing free childcare for under 11 seconds. tne— childcare for under 11 seconds. tne net— childcare for under 11 seconds. tne net cost— childcare for under 11 seconds. the net cost of— childcare for under 11 seconds. the net cost of which would tttety— the net cost of which would tttety te — the net cost of which would tttety te ets— the net cost of which would likely be £13 billion. how is tnet— likely be £13 billion. how is that affordable— likely be £13 billion. how is that affordable right now ? don't that affordable right now? don't tote— that affordable right now? don't tote ny— that affordable right now? don't tote rny nort— that affordable right now? don't take my word for— that affordable right now? don't take my word for it. the respeetet — take my word for it. the respected director of the tnstttute— respected director of the institute for— respected director of the institute for fiscal studies, tout— institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson— institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson ,_ institute for fiscal studies, paul johnson , has said paul johnson, has said increasing— paul johnson, has said increasing revenues through otostng— increasing revenues through etostng tox— increasing revenues through closing tax loopholes would be a trop— closing tax loopholes would be a drop tn— closing tax loopholes would be a drop tn tne— closing tax loopholes would be a drop in the ocean— closing tax loopholes would be a drop in the ocean of what is needed— drop in the ocean of what is needed under— drop in the ocean of what is needed under the useless tories . nrttotn— needed under the useless tories . britain already— needed under the useless tories . britain already lives beyond its . britain already lives beyond tts neons— . britain already lives beyond its means, dining out on the crest— its means, dining out on the erect — its means, dining out on the crack cocaine of— its means, dining out on the crack cocaine of borrowed tttttons. — crack cocaine of borrowed billions. well— crack cocaine of borrowed billions. well now it will only
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get one— billions. well now it will only get rt— billions. well now it will only get worse if the _ billions. well now it will only get worse if the other lot gets in. get worse if the other lot gets n t— get worse if the other lot gets n t ws— get worse if the other lot gets in. it was winston— get worse if the other lot gets in. it was winston churchill who tonousty— in. it was winston churchill who tonousty gag,— in. it was winston churchill who famously said, you— in. it was winston churchill who famously said, you cannot tax your— famously said, you cannot tax your way— famously said, you cannot tax your way to— famously said, you cannot tax your way to prosperity . well, your way to prosperity. well, unter— your way to prosperity. well, unter tetr— your way to prosperity. well, under keir starmer , you can look under keir starmer, you can look toward— under keir starmer, you can look torwort to— under keir starmer, you can look forward to five— under keir starmer, you can look forward to five years of just tnet— forward to five years of just tnot tow — forward to five years of just that tax, not— forward to five years of just that tax, not prosperity. when you— that tax, not prosperity. when you rorse— that tax, not prosperity. when you raise taxes— that tax, not prosperity. when you raise taxes like corporation pap,— you raise taxes like corporation tow you— you raise taxes like corporation to, you otten— you raise taxes like corporation tax, you often get— you raise taxes like corporation tax, you often get less in as opoes— tax, you often get less in as eopones se— tax, you often get less in as companies use clever accountants or ononge— companies use clever accountants or enonge tnetr— companies use clever accountants or change their headquarters to save money. the— or change their headquarters to save money. the painful truth is tnot— save money. the painful truth is tnot totour— save money. the painful truth is that labour can— save money. the painful truth is that labour can only bankroll tnetr— that labour can only bankroll tnetr pottey— that labour can only bankroll their policy wish _ that labour can only bankroll their policy wish list from ever ntgner— their policy wish list from ever ntgner tones— their policy wish list from ever higher taxes on— their policy wish list from ever higher taxes on all of us, ponteutorty— higher taxes on all of us, particularly wealth creators . particularly wealth creators. us.— particularly wealth creators. us. wow— particularly wealth creators. us. now wny— particularly wealth creators. us. now why is— particularly wealth creators. us. now why is that a problem ? us. now why is that a problem? wett— us. now why is that a problem? well, because— us. now why is that a problem? well, because when taxes are too ntgn — well, because when taxes are too ntgn rt— well, because when taxes are too ntgn tt tttts— well, because when taxes are too high, it kills investment. it tits— high, it kills investment. it kills aspiration,— high, it kills investment. it kills aspiration, and it stops peopte— kills aspiration, and it stops peopte tron— kills aspiration, and it stops people from buying things . and people from buying things. and for people from buying things. and tor on— people from buying things. and for an economy— people from buying things. and for an economy based on eonsunptton— for an economy based on consumption action, that's a to— consumption action, that's a to tne— consumption action, that's a race to the bottom . as britain race to the bottom. as britain wit— race to the bottom. as britain wttt go— race to the bottom. as britain wttt go tron — race to the bottom. as britain will go from broke to bankrupt unter— will go from broke to bankrupt unter tetr— will go from broke to bankrupt under keir starmer britain can't ottort— under keir starmer britain can't ottort o— under keir starmer britain can't afford a labour— under keir starmer britain can't afford a labour government . it afford a labour government. it notes— afford a labour government. it notes no— afford a labour government. it
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makes no sense— afford a labour government. it makes no sense .— makes no sense. twe— makes no sense. we got- makes no sense. i've got to- makes no sense. i've got to say it's very makes no sense.— i've got to say it's very good exercise getting _ i've got to say it's very good exercise getting across the stutto— exercise getting across the stutto twe— exercise getting across the studio like that. look, your reoetton— studio like that. look, your reaction mark@gbnews.uk com totour— reaction mark@gbnews.uk com totourwoutt— reaction mark@gbnews.uk com labour would argue that the tones— labour would argue that the tortes nove— labour would argue that the tories have destroyed the eonoy— tories have destroyed the economy . there was of course liz economy. there was of course liz trsss— economy. there was of course liz truss's disastrous— economy. there was of course liz truss's disastrous mini—budget ont— truss's disastrous mini—budget ont tnot— truss's disastrous mini—budget and that frankly— truss's disastrous mini—budget and that frankly they will rescue this _ and that frankly they will rescue this country from its urret— rescue this country from its current financial woes. that's not— current financial woes. that's not my— current financial woes. that's not my — current financial woes. that's not my view. but— current financial woes. that's not my view. but what's yours? wort— not my view. but what's yours? wort at— not my view. but what's yours? mark at cbnnews.com let's get reootton— mark at cbnnews.com let's get reoetton no— mark at cbnnews.com let's get reaction now from _ mark at cbnnews.com let's get reaction now from my top pundits . tn— reaction now from my top pundits . tn tettgntet— reaction now from my top pundits . i'm delighted to— reaction now from my top pundits . i'm delighted to welcome soetot— . i'm delighted to welcome social worker— . i'm delighted to welcome social worker and political commentator— social worker and political commentator yosef david, a brand stor— commentator yosef david, a brand stor on tne— commentator yosef david, a brand new star on the show. welcome, woset. — new star on the show. welcome, woset. we— new star on the show. welcome, woset. we otso— new star on the show. welcome, yosef. we also have— new star on the show. welcome, yosef. we also have journalist ont— yosef. we also have journalist ono pottttoot— yosef. we also have journalist and political consultant emma burnett.— and political consultant emma burnell. good— and political consultant emma burnell. good friend of the show ont— burnell. good friend of the show ont onotner— burnell. good friend of the show and another good— burnell. good friend of the show and another good friend of the aw,— and another good friend of the show, torner— and another good friend of the show, former and— and another good friend of the show, former and former tory mp wett— show, former and former tory mp wett tonn— show, former and former tory mp neil parish. emma,— show, former and former tory mp neil parish. emma, let start neil parish. emma, let me start wttn— neil parish. emma, let me start wttn-nrttotn— neil parish. emma, let me start with-britain can't- neil parish. emma, let me start with britain can't afford a with you. britain can't afford a totour— with you. britain can't afford a labour_ britain. with you. britain can't afford a. labour—britain can't labour government, britain can't ottort— labour government, britain can't ottort -nowe— labour government, britain can't ottort-nowe o— labour government, britain can't afford have a labour afford not to have a labour government— afford not to have a labour government. _ afford not to have a labour government .
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afford not to have a labour- government. mark-business government. mark any business person will tell you that there is a difference between spending and investment and what we've got at the moment is an awful lot of spending and very little investment and we are spending to deal with the catastrophic crisis that was brought to us through a decade of austerity and then a crisis that was hit harder because we had cut everything. it is absolutely true— everything. it is absolutely true tnot— everything. it is absolutely true that there _ everything. it is absolutely true that there are- g it is absolutely true that there are certain ways not— true that there are certain ways that government— true that there are certain ways that government can spend money or rt— that government can spend money or t on— that government can spend money or it can invest— that government can spend money or it can invest money and the cases we are looking at how government— cases we are looking at how government decisions impact on orttnory— government decisions impact on orotnory peopte— government decisions impact on ordinary people and our budgets and ordinary people and our budgets ont ony— ordinary people and our budgets and any election— ordinary people and our budgets and any election ,_ ordinary people and our budgets and any election , any election and any election, any election is and any election, any election ts one— and any election, any election ts ont— and any election, any election is one and lost— and any election, any election is one and lost on— and any election, any election is one and lost on the simple guestton— is one and lost on the simple guestton on— is one and lost on the simple question on are— is one and lost on the simple question on are you better off tnon— question on are you better off tnon you— question on are you better off now than you were last time? and trontty— now than you were last time? and trontty, nototy— now than you were last time? and frankly, nobody except the very, very— frankly, nobody except the very, very rten — frankly, nobody except the very, very rich are saying yes to that guestton.— very rich are saying yes to that question. well— very rich are saying yes to that question. well neil parish totour— question. well neil parish labour will— question. well neil parish labour will invest in the economy. any- labour will invest in the economy. ' "g a" labour will invest in the— economy. any keynesian economist will tell you that will boost growth what's not to like?
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well, i don't like is this tustness— well, i don't like is this business that- well, i don't like is this business that you raised is that you-re— business that you raised is that youre oetuotty— business that you raised is that you're actually going to stop getttng— you're actually going to stop getttng gos— you're actually going to stop getttng gos ont— you're actually going to stop getting gas and oil out of the tonn— getting gas and oil out of the wortn seo— getting gas and oil out of the wortn seo .— getting gas and oil out of the north sea . but— getting gas and oil out of the north sea . but yes, build on north sea. but yes, build on green— north sea. but yes, build on green policies— north sea. but yes, build on green policies and have let's nove— green policies and have let's have more windmills , wind have more windmills, wind turttnes— have more windmills, wind turbines, let's— have more windmills, wind turbines, let's have more solar , tut— turbines, let's have more solar , tut tet-s— turbines, let's have more solar , but let's actually— turbines, let's have more solar , but let's actually keep tnwesttng— , but let's actually keep investing in— , but let's actually keep investing in the north sea and gas— investing in the north sea and gos teose— investing in the north sea and gas because what we can't do is, is gas because what we can't do is, ts owerntgtt— gas because what we can't do is, is overnight. right.— gas because what we can't do is, is overnight. right. go to net ant— is overnight. right. go to net ant so— is overnight. right. go to net zero. and so therefore, we will need — zero. and so therefore, we will need gos— zero. and so therefore, we will need gos we — zero. and so therefore, we will need gas, we will— zero. and so therefore, we will need gas, we will need oil and tnen— need gas, we will need oil and tnen we— need gas, we will need oil and tnen we need— need gas, we will need oil and then we need renewables. and i tntnt— then we need renewables. and i tntnt tnot— then we need renewables. and i think that-big— then we need renewables. and i think that big mistake of think that is the big mistake of the think that is the big mistake of tne storner— think that is the big mistake of the starmer regime. i think it wont— the starmer regime. i think it woutt te— the starmer regime. i think it would be really— the starmer regime. i think it would be really wrong for the eonoy— would be really wrong for the eonoy . ant— would be really wrong for the economy . and i— would be really wrong for the economy . and i also think that economy. and i also think that i ton-t— economy. and i also think that i ton-t ogree— economy. and i also think that i don't agree with— economy. and i also think that i don't agree with-i- economy. and i also think that i don't agree with i believe don't agree with emma. i believe not— don't agree with emma. i believe tnot-ts— don't agree with emma. i believe tnot-ts o— don't agree with emma. i believe tnot-ts o tot— don't agree with emma. i believe that-is a lot of— that there is a lot of investment- that there is a lot of investment going on. there's teen— investment going on. there's been o— investment going on. there's been a-amount- investment going on. there's been a amount of cost and been a huge amount of cost and tnere-s— been a huge amount of cost and tnere-s teen— been a huge amount of cost and there's been the— been a huge amount of cost and there's been the pandemic and were— there's been the pandemic and tnere-teen— there's been the pandemic and there-been the— there's been the pandemic and there been the energy there has been the energy nsts— there has been the energy ott— there has been the energy crisis, all of— there has been the energy crisis, all of these things. but wnere— crisis, all of these things. but wnere t— crisis, all of these things. but wnere t to— crisis, all of these things. but where i do agree— crisis, all of these things. but where i do agree with her is not— where i do agree with her is that everybody— where i do agree with her is that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation— that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation is— that everybody are feeling worse off. inflation is high, food tnttotton— off. inflation is high, food inflation is— off. inflation is high, food inflation is high. we will talk otout— inflation is high. we will talk otout tnot— inflation is high. we will talk about that later— inflation is high. we will talk about that later on. all of tnose— about that later on. all of those things— about that later on. all of those things affect it. but will tney— those things affect it. but will tney oetuotty— those things affect it. but will they actually, when they come to put—tnere, — they actually, when they come to put—tnere, wttt- they actually, when they come to put _there, will they i put their cross there, will they nesessortty— put their cross there, will they necessarily trust _ put their cross there, will they necessarily trust keir starmer to to —
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necessarily trust keir starmer to do better?— necessarily trust keir starmer to do better? it's— necessarily trust keir starmer to do better? it's a shame that got— to do better? it's a shame that got to— to do better? it's a shame that we've got to argue, you know , we've got to argue, you know, tne— we've got to argue, you know, tne tones— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are the— we've got to argue, you know, the tories are the lesser of the ewts. — the tories are the lesser of the ewts. nut— the tories are the lesser of the ewts. nut ot— the tories are the lesser of the evils. but of course i used to say— evils. but of course i used to soy wnen— evils. but of course i used to soy wnen t— evils. but of course i used to say when i stood— evils. but of course i used to say when i stood as a tory oontttote— say when i stood as a tory candidate,-don't- say when i stood as a tory. candidate,-don't-for candidate, they don't vote for us-tney— candidate, they don't vote for us-tney-us- candidate, they don't vote for. us-they-us because us because they love us because tney— us because they love us because tney-us— us because they love us because tney-us tess— us because they love us because they-us less than- us because they love us because they us less than other they hate us less than the other tot.— they hate us less than the other tot. nut— they hate us less than the other tot. nut t— they hate us less than the other lot. but i rather— they hate us less than the other lot. but i rather fear this is wnot— lot. but i rather fear this is wnot tnts— lot. but i rather fear this is what this election going what this election is going to be what this election is going to toe—notes- what this election is going toi toe—notes you. what this election is going to- be_hates you. neil be about. no one hates you. neil parish. ex—politician parish. rockstar ex—politician yosef david, great to have you in the studio and thank you for dressing very, smart dressing up. very, very smart indeed would indeed. listen, labour would argue couldn't possibly do argue they couldn't possibly do argue they couldn't possibly do a worse job with the economy than the tories. i think it's fair to say that the conservatives have of conservatives have a lot of trust to regain on with the british people and we know what we get. when you have a labour goernnent— we get. when you have a labour goeent you— we get. when you have a labour government, you have— 91; when you have a labour government, you have a swollen stote— government, you have a swollen stote ont— government, you have a swollen state and spending— government, you have a swollen state and spending that goes tnrougn— state and spending that goes tnrougn tne— state and spending that goes through the roof. this will be compounded— through the roof. this will be compounded by— through the roof. this will be compounded by a labour government.— compounded by a labour government. but at present, and it government. but at present, and tt potns— government. but at present, and tt potns ne— government. but at present, and tt potns me to— government. but at present, and it pains me to say— government. but at present, and it pains me to say this, the conservative— it pains me to say this, the conservative lives haven't nonoget— conservative lives haven'tj nonoget—tney conservative lives haven't- managed _they said managed to do what they said tney—to— managed to do what they said tney—to to- managed to do what they said tney—to to tn- managed to do what they saidi they—to do in terms they were going to do in terms of they were going to do in terms ot retuetng— they were going to do in terms of reducing the— they were going to do in terms of reducing the size of the stote— of reducing the size of the stote. so— of reducing the size of the stote. so rt— of reducing the size of the state. so it could be if the pots— state. so it could be if the potts oe— state. so it could be if the polls are correct, we will get a totour— polls are correct, we will get a labour government and we will see
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labour government and we will wnot— labour government and we will see what happens— labour government and we will see what happens when that comes into see what happens when that comes tnto ptoy— see what happens when that comes tnto ptoy. nowtng— see what happens when that comes into play. having said that, i woutt— into play. having said that, i would count— into play. having said that, i would count the— into play. having said that, i would count the social cost of a totour— would count the social cost of a labour government— would count the social cost of a labour government as more worrytng— labour government as more worrytng tnon— labour government as more worrying than the financial sost. — worrying than the financial eost. ant— worrying than the financial cost. and what- worrying than the financial cost. and what do- worrying than the financial cost. 'r: r:r:::r worrying than the financial cost. worrying than the financial- cost. and what do you mean by social cost? well, i'm from a ntnortty— social cost? well, i'm from a minority community- f f“ well, i'm from a minority community and the way not— minority community and the way tnot tne— minority community and the way that the labour— minority community and the way that the labour party engages wttn— that the labour party engages wttn toenttty— that the labour party engages with identity politics risks pttttng— with identity politics risks pitting minority communities ogotnst— pitting minority communities ogotnsteoon— pitting minority communities against each other. and for me tnot-s— against each other. and for me that's terrifying— against each other. and for me that's terrifying the way that the that's terrifying the way that tne totour— that's terrifying the way that the labour party talks about race actually— the labour party talks about race actually deepens divisions. it race actually deepens divisions. tt toesn-t— race actually deepens divisions. it doesn't build— race actually deepens divisions. it doesn't build camaraderie . it doesn't build camaraderie. tnteresttng— it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. _ it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. well,- it doesn't build camaraderie. interesting stuff. well, look, can britain afford a labour government? neil i'll come back to you very shortly. i've got a brilliant set of pundits tonight. i think you all agree, brilliant set of pundits tonilots i think you all agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to hink you all agree, brilliant set of pundits tonilots to get you all agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to get through. agree, brilliant set of pundits toni lots to get through. don't but lots to get through. don't forget, 10:00 be dealing forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. she's making statement to the making her statement to the nation. i've preview nation. well, i've got a preview of speech, i'm not of that speech, and i'm not pulling my punches . we're 40 pulling my punches. we're 40 minutes that. you'll minutes away from that. you'll look to that. but look forward to that. but next in big as rowan in the big story, as rowan atkinson feels conned, atkinson says, he feels conned, are electric cars a waste of time? i'll asking former top time? i'll be asking former top gear presenter quentin willson live in the studio. and as rishi sunak heads to america, is the
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to gb news radio. iwelcome- to gb news radio. iwelcome back. to gb news radio. welcome back to the show. we'll get very shortly. get to your emails very shortly. but time now for the big but it's time now for the big story. and atkinson says story. and rowan atkinson says that a little duped by that he feels a little duped by electric cars and urged motorists to keep using older petrol vehicles to help save the planet . he said advances in planet. he said advances in electric battery design will be of great environmental benefit one day, but that day has yet to dawn . writing in the guardian, dawn. writing in the guardian, the legend , comedian and actor the legend, comedian and actor said that despite only owning one himself, he's got an electric car . our honeymoon with electric car. our honeymoon with electric car. our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end.the electric cars is coming to an end. the actor who studied an electrical and electronic engineering degree points out that although evs have zero emissions, when on the road,
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their actual manufacture, according to research by volvo, suggests green house gas emissions during production are 70% higher than petrol vehicles, in part due to the lithium ion batteries , which require rare batteries, which require rare earth minerals and huge amounts of energy. so was he duped? let's speak to the brilliant broadcaster and motoring journalist, former star of top gear and many other tv hits, quentin willson. quentin great to have you. pleasure to be here. mark. thank you for joining us. was rowan atkinson had , no he's not been duped had no, no he's not been duped and look, i'm a car enthusiast like like like rowan and have owned all these wonderful cars. but i have been driving evs se— but i have been driving evs zoos— but i have been driving evs since 2009. i've— but i have been driving evs since 2009. i've got two evs ont— since 2009. i've got two evs ont t— since 2009. i've got two evs now, and i don't— since 2009. i've got two evs now, and i don't feel duped at ott— now, and i don't feel duped at no ant— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there are— now, and i don't feel duped at all. and there are certain tntngs— all. and there are certain tntngs tnot— all. and there are certain things that rowan said in his his things that rowan said in his nts ontote— things that rowan said in his his article .the_ things that rowan said in his his article the guardian, his article in the guardian, wnton—rtgntl his article in the guardian,l which—right with which which aren't right with respect— which which aren't right with respect ont— which which aren't right with respect ont o— which which aren't right with respect and a lot of those tntngs— respect and a lot of those tntngs ore— respect and a lot of those things are like,- respect and a lot of those things are like, you know, nyorogen— things are like, you know, nyorogen ts— things are like, you know, hydrogen is not the panacea that peopte— hydrogen is not the panacea that peopte tntnt— hydrogen is not the panacea that peopte tntnt rt— hydrogen is not the panacea that people think it is— hydrogen is not the panacea that people think it is because it's very— people think it is because it's very epees — people think it is because it's very expensive to— people think it is because it's very expensive to produce green nyorogen.— very expensive to produce green nyorogen. tt-s— very expensive to produce green
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nyorogen. tt-s no— very expensive to produce green hydrogen. it's no use making nyorogen—tti hydrogen. it's no use making. hydrogen—it hasn't hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't worked — hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't worked tor— hydrogen fossil fuels. it hasn't worked for toyota. they've more or it. no. and then or less ditched it. no. and then shell or less ditched it. no. and then snett otoset— or less ditched it. no. and then shell closed all— or less ditched it. no. and then shell closed all their- r: f: e no and then shell closed all their hydrogen stottons— shell closed all their hydrogen stations quite— shell closed all their hydrogen stations quite recently. you stations quite recently. and you ton-t— stations quite recently. and you ton-t-nytrogen- don't see any hydrogen cars on the don't see any hydrogen cars on tne-wnot— don't see any hydrogen cars on tne-wnton-you- the road, which gives you a one.— the road, which gives you a etue. wo— the road, which gives you a clue. no manufacturer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icarsifacturer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at:turer is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at thetr is doing the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at the moment,| the road, which gives you a clue. no icars at the moment, but hydrogen cars at the moment, but to—reotty— hydrogen cars at the moment, but to—reotty tow- to have all that really low temperature— to have all that really low temperature pipes and delivery, it temperature pipes and delivery, tt rust— temperature pipes and delivery, tt tust tsn-t— temperature pipes and delivery, it just isn't going— temperature pipes and delivery, it just isn't going to happen. so it just isn't going to happen. so—nostl so electricity is the most otuntont— so electricity is the most abundant thing we have and it's the abundant thing we have and it's tne oneopest— abundant thing we have and it's the cheapest we've the the cheapest and we've got the infrastructure. _ infrastructure. they're called plugs— infrastructure. they're called ptugs-tne— infrastructure. they're called plugs-the .that- infrastructure. they're called plugs the that an ev plugs. so the idea that an ev nos— plugs. so the idea that an ev nos tnts— plugs. so the idea that an ev nos tnts nuge— plugs. so the idea that an ev has this huge carbon debt that it has this huge carbon debt that tt neets— has this huge carbon debt that tt needs to— has this huge carbon debt that tt needs to poy— has this huge carbon debt that it needs to pay off and that votwo— it needs to pay off and that votwo stuty— it needs to pay off and that volvo study has— it needs to pay off and that volvo study has been widely tetuntet— volvo study has been widely debunked it— volvo study has been widely debunked it and it comes it pays toot— debunked it and it comes it pays toot tn— debunked it and it comes it pays toot tn otout— debunked it and it comes it pays back in about 16,000 miles. and tnere-s— back in about 16,000 miles. and tnere-s teen— back in about 16,000 miles. and there's been some— back in about 16,000 miles. and there's been some really sonotorty— there's been some really scholarly peer- there's been some really scholarly peer reviewed research on tnts— scholarly peer reviewed research on we .— scholarly peer reviewed research on we . ant— scholarly peer reviewed research on this . and don't— scholarly peer reviewed research on this . and don't forget, volvo on this. and don't forget, volvo otso— on this. and don't forget, volvo otso note— on this. and don't forget, volvo otso note o— on this. and don't forget, volvo also made a combustion cars. so tnot-s— also made a combustion cars. so tnot-s on— also made a combustion cars. so tnot-s on tssue— also made a combustion cars. so that's an issue. yes,— also made a combustion cars. so that's an issue. yes, sure . the that's an issue. yes, sure. the tttntun— that's an issue. yes, sure. the tttntun ont— that's an issue. yes, sure. the lithium and the— that's an issue. yes, sure. the lithium and the cobalt are rare eonn— lithium and the cobalt are rare eortn netots— lithium and the cobalt are rare earth metals and— lithium and the cobalt are rare earth metals and they're in reosonotty— earth metals and they're in reasonably limited supply. the extroetton— reasonably limited supply. the extraction of— reasonably limited supply. the extraction of them involves gutte— extraction of them involves gutte o— extraction of them involves quite a depletion of human rtgnts— quite a depletion of human rtgnts os— quite a depletion of human rights as well— quite a depletion of human rights as well as natural resources, doesn't it? “tit; at; resources, doesn't it? there are issues with human rights and it's and it's going to run out.
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isn't that another headache? well, lithium is well, not not really. lithium is pretty abundant— well, not not really. lithium is pretty abundant-it's- well, not not really. lithium isj pretty abundant-it's.the pretty abundant and it's on the bottom— pretty abundant and it's on the bottom-seabed.- pretty abundant and it's on the bottom seabed. and bottom of the seabed. and we ton-t— bottom of the seabed. and we ton-t-nuon- bottom of the seabed. and we don't much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in the much lithium bottom of the seabed. and we don't is in the muchecause we there is in the world because we nowen-t— there is in the world because we haven't-started— there is in the world because we haven't started looking. haven't really started looking. ant— haven't really started looking. and—batteriesl and can electric car batteries be and can electric car batteries toe—ot— and can electric car batteries be_of course,- be recycled? of course, massively. iwas be recycled? of course, massively. i was in be recycled? of course,- massively. i was in birmingham the massively. i was in birmingham tne-toy— massively. i was in birmingham tne-toy-ttrn- massively. i was in birmingham the-day-firm called| the other day with a firm called eco the other day with a firm called too-wno— the other day with a firm called too-wno ore— the other day with a firm called eco .who are just _ the other day with a firm called eco who are just howling eco bat who are just howling for as eco bat who are just howling for os nony— eco bat who are just howling for as many-batteries— eco bat who are just howling for as many batteries as right. as many ev batteries as right. so as many ev batteries as right. so-ton-t— as many ev batteries as right. so-oon-t go— as many ev batteries as right. so-don't go-landfill. j so they don't go into landfill. nobody's going to take batteries to tonttttt. — nobody's going to take batteries to landfill.-cost_ nobody's going to take batteries to landfill.-cost a- nobody's going to take batteries to landfill. cost a huge to landfill. they cost a huge oont— to landfill. they cost a huge amount-money- to landfill. they cost a huge. amount-money-can amount of money and they can be re—energtset— amount of money and they can be re—energised_be- re—energised and they can be note— re—energised and they can be note tnto— re—energised and they can be made into second life batteries for made into second life batteries tor—storoge- for static energy storage or one— for static energy storage or other batteries— for static energy storage or other batteries electric other batteries for electric- cars. _wonderful cars. so there's that wonderful etreutor— cars. so there's that wonderful circular economy. _ cars. so there's that wonderful circular economy. recycle circular economy. nobody recycle his circular economy. nobody recycle nts ott— circular economy. nobody recycle nts ott nort— circular economy. nobody recycle his oil mark and— circular economy. nobody recycle his oil mark and also when you tttnt— his oil mark and also when you tntnt otout— his oil mark and also when you think about, okay,— his oil mark and also when you think about, okay, the energy to note— think about, okay, the energy to note on— think about, okay, the energy to make an electric— think about, okay, the energy to make an electric car, it's a lot out— make an electric car, it's a lot tut tne— make an electric car, it's a lot tut tne energy— make an electric car, it's a lot but the energy to— make an electric car, it's a lot but the energy to make a combustion— but the energy to make a combustion car- but the energy to make a combustion car is a lot. and to renne— combustion car is a lot. and to refine ant,— combustion car is a lot. and to refine, drill, explore and tronspon— refine, drill, explore and transport the _ refine, drill, explore and transport the oil. and nobody totts— transport the oil. and nobody totts otout— transport the oil. and nobody talks about that— transport the oil. and nobody talks about that carbon emissions— talks about that carbon emissions . - talks about that carbon emissions . talks about that carbon emissions. talks about that carbon- emissions . so perhaps there's talks about that carbon— emissions . so perhaps there's an emissions. so perhaps there's an argument to go electric, but couldn't my viewers and listeners hang on to their diesel estate until it until it basically breaks down? isn't there an argument for keeping your old car rather than buying a new one, which needs to be
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made? mark scrapping perfectly good—notes- made? mark scrapping perfectly good—notes noi good combustion cars makes no enwtronnentot— good combustion cars makes no environmental sense at all, and i environmental sense at all, and t eonptetety— environmental sense at all, and i completely agree— environmental sense at all, and i completely agree with robin on not.— i completely agree with robin on tnot. vou— i completely agree with robin on that. you know,— i completely agree with robin on that. you know, keep okay. that. you know, keep it, okay. tnere— that. you know, keep it, okay. there-emissions- that. you know, keep it, okay. there _emissions ,- that. you know, keep it, okay. there emissions , but there will be emissions, but tt-s— there will be emissions, but tt-s-nuen— there will be emissions, but it's-much better- there will be emissions, but it's much better to it's much, much better to repurpose— it's much, much better to repurpose your- it's much, much better to repurpose your old car than to serop— repurpose your old car than to serop tt— repurpose your old car than to scrap it completely. so on that, we otsotutety— scrap it completely. so on that, we absolutely agree . but for we absolutely agree. but for your— we absolutely agree. but for your wewers— we absolutely agree. but for your viewers, look, i've been wrong— your viewers, look, i've been wrong tnese— your viewers, look, i've been driving these cars for a long ttne. — driving these cars for a long ttne. t— driving these cars for a long ttne. t t— driving these cars for a long ttne. t t to— driving these cars for a long time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in time. i i do 35,000 miles a year tn on— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year tn on eteotrto— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in an electric car— time. i i do 35,000 miles a year in an electric car and i have no prottens— in an electric car and i have no prottens. tne— in an electric car and i have no problems. the batteries aren't. wowe— problems. the batteries aren't. how you— problems. the batteries aren't. how you got— problems. the batteries aren't. how you got os— problems. the batteries aren't. have you got as many- problems. the batteries aren't. have you got as many points on your licence as suella braverman? no. archbishop of canterbury? look you . canterbury? no. look at you. you're an angel. you must be very boring to drive with, so. but they've expired. i'm glad to reor— but they've expired. i'm glad to hear glad. full disclosure. hear it. glad. full disclosure. what about the cost? because i've viewers and listeners i've got viewers and listeners will you're very will think, okay, you're very persuasive, but there's way persuasive, but there's no way i can afford those things. can afford one of those things. they expensive. absolutely. they are expensive. absolutely. but they are expensive. absolutely. nut—between- but the disparity between combustion— but the disparity between combustion and electric is etostng— combustion and electric is etostng .— combustion and electric is etostng . vou— combustion and electric is closing . you can buy a tesla for closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. — closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. wow,— closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. now, a— closing. you can buy a tesla for £20,000. now, a second hand, one not— £20,000. now, a second hand, one ttot nove— £20,000. now, a second hand, one ttot nowe rust— £20,000. now, a second hand, one fiat have just lopped_ £20,000. now, a second hand, one fiat have just lopped £3,000 off tnetr— fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric— fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric e _ fiat have just lopped £3,000 off their electric e 500. i've never neort— their electric e 500. i've never neort you— their electric e 500. i've never neoro you soy— their electric e 500. i've never heard you say something nice
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otout— heard you say something nice otout o— heard you say something nice otout o trot— heard you say something nice about a fiat before. eunice about a fiat before. well, you-we— about a fiat before. well, you've changed, quentin . no, you've changed, quentin. no, you've changed, quentin. no, you've gone. whoa, hold on. you used to joke about. perish the thought. yeah. and used to joke about. perish the thought . yeah. and the used to joke about. perish the thought. yeah. and the build guottty— thought. yeah. and the build guottty osnt— thought. yeah. and the build quality wasn't very- 3 yeah. and the build quality wasn't very good. but it's quality wasn't very good. but tt-s better— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now .— quality wasn't very good. but it's better now . and look, any it's better now. and look, any car manufacturers— it's better now. and look, any car manufacturers are reducing the car manufacturers are reducing tne prtee— car manufacturers are reducing tne prtee ot— car manufacturers are reducing tne pnee ot on— car manufacturers are reducing the price of an ev— car manufacturers are reducing the price of an ev is okay with won.— the price of an ev is okay with me. yeah. yeah.— the price of an ev is okay with me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 eteotrto— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 eteetrte ts— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. _ me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. 25— me. yeah. yeah. your fiat 500 electric is 24. 25 grand. right. ant— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. ant tnot-s— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good .— electric is 24. 25 grand. right. and that's good . so they are and that's good. so they are epenstwe— and that's good. so they are expensive. that's— and that's good. so they are expensive. that's still a whole nttt— expensive. that's still a whole nttt ot— expensive. that's still a whole hill of money. _ expensive. that's still a whole hill of money. f hill of money. cheap, cheap to run because you don't have oil changes. haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no haven't wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing at wear run because you don't have oil chartear, no servicing at all,3r and tear, no servicing at all, no servicing, no servicing, top up windscreen washer bottle, up the windscreen washer bottle, rotate the tires in 32,000 miles. i paid £120 for sentetng. — miles. i paid £120 for servicing. all- i paid £120 for servicing. ” g miles. i paid £120 for- servicing. all right, listen, can you stick around till 11? because i'd like a lift in your. in your ev to get home. i'd love to, because then i will convince you and you will become a convert. all right. there you go. well, look at him. silver tongue devil. quentin. thank you so come so much forjoining us. do come back us again soon on back and see us again soon on the panel, if you can. my thanks to motoring journalist to the motoring journalist and broadcaster now broadcaster quentin wilson. now big on the international big news on the international stage. sunak off to stage. rishi sunak jets off to america this to meet with
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america this week to meet with joe trade energy joe biden to talk trade energy into national finance and ukraine. will the trip reaffirm the special relationship or demonstrate it has come to an end, particularly given tensions between joe biden's white house and the british government's approach to brexit? let's head straight to washington now and speak to political commentator foreign policy analyst and former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner . former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner. nile is joe biden , a friend of britain . joe biden, a friend of britain. well, mark, thanks very much for having me on the show today. and i have to say, i think that joe— and i have to say, i think that joe preten— and i have to say, i think that toe ntten ts— and i have to say, i think that joe biden is the— and i have to say, i think that joe biden is the most anti nrtttsn— joe biden is the most anti british president of the modern era. he's no friend— british president of the modern era. he's no friend of the unttet— era. he's no friend of the united kingdom. and the british peopte— united kingdom. and the british peopte .— united kingdom. and the british peopte . we,— united kingdom. and the british peopte . ne, tn— united kingdom. and the british people . he, in fact, started off people. he, in fact, started off as people. he, in fact, started off os presttent— people. he, in fact, started off as president by— people. he, in fact, started off as president by removing a bus to wtnston— as president by removing a bus to winston churchill from the two— to winston churchill from the owot ontne— to winston churchill from the oval office just— to winston churchill from the oval office just as barack obama did oval office just as barack obama on tetore— oval office just as barack obama did before him.— oval office just as barack obama did before him. donald trump trougnt— did before him. donald trump trougnt tne— did before him. donald trump brought the bust— did before him. donald trump brought the bust of churchill toot— brought the bust of churchill toot .— brought the bust of churchill toot , tut— brought the bust of churchill back , but biden— brought the bust of churchill back , but biden wasted no time back, but biden wasted no time in back, but biden wasted no time tn getttng— back, but biden wasted no time tn getttng rtt— back, but biden wasted no time in getting rid of— back, but biden wasted no time in getting rid of the chartered tus— in getting rid of the chartered tus ont— in getting rid of the chartered tus ont tnot— in getting rid of the chartered bus and that really set the tone for bus and that really set the tone tor ns— bus and that really set the tone for his presidency.— bus and that really set the tone for his presidency. biden really is
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for his presidency. biden really ts on— for his presidency. biden really is an incredibly— for his presidency. biden really is an incredibly left wing presttent— is an incredibly left wing prestoent .— is an incredibly left wing president . he's a very woke president. he's a very woke presttent— president. he's a very woke presttent .— president. he's a very woke president . he— president. he's a very woke president . he has no real president. he has no real otttntty— president. he has no real granny, t— president. he has no real affinity, i think, for the us—uk speotot— affinity, i think, for the us—uk special relationship ship. he nos— special relationship ship. he has lectured— special relationship ship. he has lectured britain on multiple occasions. he's— has lectured britain on multiple occasions. he's threatened nrttotn— occasions. he's threatened nrttotn oer— occasions. he's threatened britain over a— occasions. he's threatened britain over a us free trade teot— britain over a us free trade teot .— britain over a us free trade teot . ne— britain over a us free trade deal . he declined to attend the deal. he declined to attend the ttng-s— deal. he declined to attend the king's coronation.— deal. he declined to attend the king's coronation. this is a presttent— king's coronation. this is a president who— king's coronation. this is a president who i— king's coronation. this is a president who i think has diminished— president who i think has diminished actually the ponnersntp— diminished actually the partnership between the us and the partnership between the us and tne un— partnership between the us and tne ut nos— partnership between the us and the uk has insulted britain on nony— the uk has insulted britain on many occasions— the uk has insulted britain on many occasions and i think owerott— many occasions and i think owerott tne— many occasions and i think overall the biden presidency is a overall the biden presidency is oeonptete— overall the biden presidency is a complete disaster not only for the a complete disaster not only for tne wnttet— a complete disaster not only for the united states— a complete disaster not only for the united states but also for the united states but also for tne speotot— the united states but also for the special relationship and for the special relationship and for tne tree— the special relationship and for the free world— the special relationship and for the free world as— the special relationship and for the free world as well . ”iii: the free world as well. i'm sure trot— the free world as well. i'm sure ttot ttsnt — the free world as well. i'm sure that rishi sunak would like to restart talks over a trade deal with the us . will that ever with the us. will that ever happen under a democratic president ? well, that's a very president? well, that's a very good question. it's not certain wnetner— good question. it's not certain wnetner or— good question. it's not certain whether or not— good question. it's not certain whether or not sunak- g: 2" it's not certain whether or not sunak is going to press— whether or not sunak is going to press tne— whether or not sunak is going to press tne ssue— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of a— whether or not sunak is going to press the issue of a trade deal wttn— press the issue of a trade deal wttn tne— press the issue of a trade deal with the united— press the issue of a trade deal with the united states. after alb— with the united states. after an, ntten— with the united states. after all, biden has— with the united states. after all, biden has been very, very nesttont—
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all, biden has been very, very nesttont to— all, biden has been very, very hesitant to move _ all, biden has been very, very hesitant to move forward with regort — hesitant to move forward with regort to — hesitant to move forward with regort to o— hesitant to move forward with regard to a trade— hesitant to move forward with regard to a trade deal. and in toot— regard to a trade deal. and in toot .— regard to a trade deal. and in toot , ntten— regard to a trade deal. and in fact, biden threatened regard to a trade deal. and in fact , biden threatened the fact, biden threatened the unttet— fact, biden threatened the united kingdom over a trade teot— united kingdom over a trade teot, oer— united kingdom over a trade deal, over the— united kingdom over a trade deal, over the trade deal issue in deal, over the trade deal issue tn retotton— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to the— deal, over the trade deal issue in relation to the northern tretont— in relation to the northern ireland protocol. so the biden administration— ireland protocol. so the biden administration hasn't necessarily- administration hasn't necessarily sent any warm stgnots— necessarily sent any warm stgnots wttn— necessarily sent any warm signals with regard to a us—uk trotte— signals with regard to a us—uk trote teot— signals with regard to a us—uk trote teot .— signals with regard to a us—uk trade deal . sunak, of course, trade deal. sunak, of course, snoutt— trade deal. sunak, of course, snoutt te— trade deal. sunak, of course, should be pushing the issue strongty— should be pushing the issue strongty tn— should be pushing the issue strongly in washington . let's strongly in washington. let's tt— strongly in washington. let's tt tne— strongly in washington. let's see if the prime— strongly in washington. let's see if the prime minister ootuotty— see if the prime minister actually does— see if the prime minister actually does that. but i think the actually does that. but i think tne prospects— actually does that. but i think the prospects of— actually does that. but i think the prospects of a— actually does that. but i think the prospects of a trade deal peng— the prospects of a trade deal tetng tn— the prospects of a trade deal tetng tn prose— the prospects of a trade deal being in place under a biden administration— being in place under a biden administration are very, very ttnttet. — administration are very, very ttnttet. ant— administration are very, very limited. and it— administration are very, very limited. and it would take a tteputtteon— limited. and it would take a republican president, i think, in republican president, i think, tn orter— republican president, i think, tn order to— republican president, i think, in order to get— republican president, i think, in order to get a— republican president, i think, in order to get a us—uk trade teot— in order to get a us—uk trade teot ott— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done and— in order to get a us—uk trade deal all done and dusted . eunice deal all done and dusted. well, on ttot— deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject— deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject ,_ deal all done and dusted. well, on that subject , donald trump on that subject, donald trump looks a shoo in to win the republican nomination to run for president . could he win the next president. could he win the next election in and would donald trump in the white house be good for news britain ? well, i think
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for news britain? well, i think the republican race for the presidency , he is actually going presidency, he is actually going to be very tight, i think, mark. so it's early days and you know, wett— so it's early days and you know, we-tt nove— so it's early days and you know, we-tt toe to— so it's early days and you know, we'll have to see— so it's early days and you know, we'll have to see what the outoe— we'll have to see what the outoe ts. — we'll have to see what the outcome is. certainly donald trunp— outcome is. certainly donald trunp wos— outcome is. certainly donald trunp o— outcome is. certainly donald trump was a very strong supponer— trump was a very strong supponer ot— trump was a very strong supporter of a - trump was a very strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal wnen— supporter of a us—uk trade deal wnen ne— supporter of a us—uk trade deal wnen ne wos— supporter of a us—uk trade deal when he was president. he was a strong— when he was president. he was a strong poster— when he was president. he was a strong backer of— when he was president. he was a strong backer of brexit. but at the strong backer of brexit. but at tne soe— strong backer of brexit. but at the same time,— strong backer of brexit. but at the same time, his main opponent,— the same time, his main opponent, ron- the same time, his main opponent, ron desantis, governor of opponent, ron desantis, governor ot ttortto— opponent, ron desantis, governor ot prong... ts— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also a— opponent, ron desantis, governor of florida, is also a big supponer— of florida, is also a big supponer ot— of florida, is also a big supporter of brexit. i think the speotot— supporter of brexit. i think the special relationship would be very— special relationship would be very strong— special relationship would be very strong tn— special relationship would be very strong in the hands of any teputttoon— very strong in the hands of any republican president. if you toot— republican president. if you toot ot— republican president. if you look at other— republican president. if you look at other contenders as wett— look at other contenders as wet, tttnt— look at other contenders as well, nikki haley, for example, a well, nikki haley, for example, o ttg— well, nikki haley, for example, o ttg o— well, nikki haley, for example, o ttg o ntg— well, nikki haley, for example, a big a big backer of brexit, a strong— a big a big backer of brexit, a strong supponer— a big a big backer of brexit, a strong supporter of a us—uk trotte— strong supporter of a us—uk trote teot— strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal. so— strong supporter of a us—uk trade deal. so republicans, trade deal. so the republicans, as trade deal. so the republicans, os o wtote— trade deal. so the republicans, os o page, t— trade deal. so the republicans, as a whole, i think are very suppontwe— as a whole, i think are very suppontwe ot— as a whole, i think are very supportive of a— as a whole, i think are very supportive of a stronger, more powertut— supportive of a stronger, more powerful relationship with with ereot— powerful relationship with with snot-tney— powerful relationship with with great-they back- powerful relationship with with great they back trade great britain. they back a trade teot. — great britain. they back a trade teot. ant— great britain. they back a trade deal. and .think_ great britain. they back a trade deal. and think that the deal. and so i think that the tune— deal. and so i think that the tuture ot— deal. and so i think that the future of the— deal. and so i think that the future of the special relationship would be very safe in relationship would be very safe tn tne— relationship would be very safe tn tne nones— relationship would be very safe in the hands-a— relationship would be very safe in the hands a conservative, in the hands of a conservative, oettwe— in the hands of a conservative, oettwe us— in the hands of a conservative, active us president. but if it's joe active us president. but if it's roe ntoen— active us president. but if it's roe ntoen tn— active us president. but if it's joe biden in office for a second tam,— joe biden in office for a second tam, tnen— joe biden in office for a second tam, tnen t— joe biden in office for a second term, then i think— joe biden in office for a second term, then i think the outlook for term, then i think the outlook
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tor tne— term, then i think the outlook for the special— term, then i think the outlook for the special relationship woutt— for the special relationship woutt te— for the special relationship would be very— for the special relationship would be very grim. eunice \r gt; would be very grim. well, nigel, our relationship has always been very special . thank our relationship has always been very special. thank you so much for joining us. my pleasure. forjoining us. my pleasure. nony— forjoining us. my pleasure. nony tnonts— forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . _ forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . my- " g my pleasure. many thanks . mgr forjoining us. my pleasure. many thanks . my thanks there to many thanks. my thanks there to political commentator, foreign policy analyst and us former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner . aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner. much more to come. don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be deaung don't forget, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. she's addressing the nation on this morning while i've got an exclusive preview of her speech. and i won't be pulling my punches. where are we? half an hour away from that. you won't want to miss it. but coming up next in the pundits, would you pay next in the pundits, would you pay more for your groceries to save the planet? should bad parkers be publicly shamed ? and parkers be publicly shamed? and is sir roger moore's son right that james bond should always be british? see you
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. electro cars are a fools pipe dream, says alan— . electro cars are a fools pipe dream, says alan market cbnnews.com. - dream, says alan market cbnnews.com. \rr:::r dream, says alan market cbnnews.com. \rr:::r rte" dream, says alan market- cbnnews.com. no one can afford one. we don't have the power. they have no range or infrastructure and are more carbon intensive than an ordinary car. only fossil fuels can provide the power to charge them up. it's another bonkers scheme ignoring the human and environmental damage that is being done right now and also on this one. oh yes, regard thing, the prime minister , he's off to the prime minister, he's off to america this week. what kind of state is the special relationship in? mark says tony rishi sunak can't be trusted with biden too busy worrying about his green card . tony, about his green card. tony, thank you for that. keep those emails coming. mark at cbnnews.com . i'm reacting to the cbnnews.com. i'm reacting to the big stories of the day. my top punst big stories of the day. my top pundits , social worker and pundits, social worker and political commentator yosef david, journalist and political consultant emma burnell a playwright as well. don't you know? and farmer and former conservative mp. the very versatile neil parish. and by the way, that tan comes from the
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united kingdom, not some foreign climb because of course a great farmers are out in the fields working hard , topping up their working hard, topping up their vitamin d now as green levies are set to be imposed next year, shopping bills are expected to rise by £4 billion a year. this will mean household bills will increase by up to £140. some mps are calling for the pm to disregard the nonsensical plans whilst the british retail consortium have warned against them . so would you pay more for them. so would you pay more for your groceries to save the planet? joseph if you could prove— planet? joseph if you could prove to— planet? joseph if you could prove to ne— planet? joseph if you could prove to me that— , joseph if you could prove to me that current our ptosttes— prove to me that current our ptosttos ore— prove to me that current our plastics are being recycled etteottwety— plastics are being recycled effectively and _ plastics are being recycled effectively and that the sacrifices _ effectively and that the sacrifices that we're making are tong— sacrifices that we're making are doing something,— sacrifices that we're making are doing something, if anything, to onset— doing something, if anything, to ottset tne— doing something, if anything, to offset the emissions from china ont— offset the emissions from china ont noto— offset the emissions from china ont tntto ont— offset the emissions from china and india and countries like tnts— and india and countries like tnts tnen— and india and countries like this, then happily , i would i this, then happily, i would i wont— this, then happily, i would i wouto poy— this, then happily, i would i would pay more— this, then happily, i would i would pay more . cc c would pay more. but you'll wait for the pigs to fly. exactly but what i would say is , as for the pigs to fly. exactly - but what i would say is , as long but what i would say is, as long as our response— but what i would say is, as long as our response to— but what i would say is, as long as our response to the climate ortsts— as our response to the climate ortsts ont— as our response to the climate ortsts ont t— as our response to the climate ortsts ont t to— as our response to the climate crisis and i do believe that were— crisis and i do believe that tnere ts— crisis and i do believe that tnere ts o— crisis and i do believe that there is a climate crisis that
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we need— there is a climate crisis that we need to— there is a climate crisis that we need to respond to as long as it's we need to respond to as long as tt-s puntttwe— we need to respond to as long as it's punitive and— we need to respond to as long as it's punitive and costly, it's not— it's punitive and costly, it's not gotng— it's punitive and costly, it's not gotng to— it's punitive and costly, it's not going to be— it's punitive and costly, it's not going to be taken up universally— not going to be taken up universally .— not going to be taken up universally . and the majority of universally. and the majority of the universally. and the majority of tne poputotton— universally. and the majority of the population will resent these enonges. — the population will resent these enonges. - — the population will resent these enonges. - ano— the population will resent these changes.- and what- the population will resent these changes. 'r: r:r:::r the population will resent these changes. ' r: r:r:::r changes. okay and what do you think, neil? you generally eat food. a farmer. so what's food. you're a farmer. so what's your will your view of what will essentially cost on essentially be a cost on businesses will be passed businesses which will be passed on ? yeah, i mean, on to consumers? yeah, i mean, got— on to consumers? yeah, i mean, got toot— on to consumers? yeah, i mean, we've got food inflation,- we've got food inflation, nowen-t— we've got food inflation, nowen-t we— we've got food inflation, haven't we have nearly which haven't we have nearly 17, which is haven't we have nearly 17, which ts—we-we- is really serious. we've got a rnne— is really serious. we've got a prime minister— is really serious. we've got a prime minister who's trying to get-prtees— prime minister who's trying to get-prices down,- prime minister who's trying to get prices down, cost of get food prices down, cost of protuetton— get food prices down, cost of production is— get food prices down, cost of production is high at the moment teose— production is high at the moment teose ntgn— production is high at the moment because high labour costs, high energy— because high labour costs, high energy-ntgn— because high labour costs, high energy-ntgn tnput- energy costs or high input o.osts — energy costs or high input o.osts vou— energy costs or high input costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i tett— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i tett you— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i can tell you exactly— costs. you know, i'm a farmer. i can tell you exactly the costs. they— can tell you exactly the costs. tney oe— can tell you exactly the costs. tney ore-sow— can tell you exactly the costs. they are 30% higher than they are 20, 30% higher than tney— they are 20, 30% higher than tney-so— they are 20, 30% higher than tney-so wnot- they are 20, 30% higher than they so what you're going they were. so what you're going to to— they were. so what you're going to tolyou-re— they were. so what you're going to do .you're _to, - to do is you're going to, i tttnt— to do is you're going to, i think you've— to do is you're going to, i think you've got to delay these tones— think you've got to delay these taxes because _ think you've got to delay these taxes because at— think you've got to delay these taxes because at the moment, wnot— taxes because at the moment, wnot t— taxes because at the moment, wnot t wont— taxes because at the moment, what i want to— taxes because at the moment, what i want to see— taxes because at the moment, what i want to see a cleaner enronent— what i want to see a cleaner enronent .— what i want to see a cleaner environment. i— what i want to see a cleaner environment. i want to be snotrtng— environment. i want to be chairinglselect- environment. i want to be chairing select committee. chairing a select committee. i tootet— chairing a select committee. i tootet ot— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots of— chairing a select committee. i looked at lots of recycling, nuen— looked at lots of recycling, nuon ot— looked at lots of recycling, nuon ot tt— looked at lots of recycling, much of it good. but if we oetuotty— much of it good. but if we oetuotty gotng— much of it good. but if we actually going to heap more cost wnen— actually going to heap more cost when we're trying— actually going to heap more cost when we're trying to drive out toot— when we're trying to drive out food inflation— when we're trying to drive out food inflation and drive down tnttotton— food inflation and drive down inflation, this— food inflation and drive down inflation, this will be the wrong — inflation, this will be the wrong direction. so i think they
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need— wrong direction. so i think they need to— wrong direction. so i think they need to dye— wrong direction. so i think they need to give it— wrong direction. so i think they need to give it more time and as joseph— need to give it more time and as joseph an,— need to give it more time and as joseph said, you've— need to give it more time and as joseph said, you've got to make tnot— joseph said, you've got to make sure that these— joseph said, you've got to make sure that these green policies are effective _ sure that these green policies are effective and— sure that these green policies are effective and they are proper— are effective and they are proper recycling, not just green wosntng— proper recycling, not just green wosntng ont— proper recycling, not just green wosntng ont o— proper recycling, not just green washing and a lot— proper recycling, not just green washing and a lot of it is green wosntng— washing and a lot of it is green wosntng . — washing and a lot of it is green wosntng . tt— washing and a lot of it is green washing . it sounds- washing and a lot of it is green washing . c at: c c washing and a lot of it is green washing . c r:3 c c grit washing. it sounds like it's got parallels with covid and the kind of covid theatre we saw being seen to do something . being seen to do something. that's right. a quick word on michael gove because the levy was created when he was environment minister. has he lost plot? ithink environment minister. has he lost plot? i think you see lost the plot? i think you see wnen— lost the plot? i think you see wnen ne— lost the plot? i think you see wnen ne wos— lost the plot? i think you see when he was driving- , i think you see when he was driving that forward and when he was driving that forward ont you— when he was driving that forward ont you not— when he was driving that forward and you had much— when he was driving that forward and you had much lower food tnttotton— and you had much lower food inflation and— and you had much lower food inflation and you— and you had much lower food inflation and you needed to do nuen— inflation and you needed to do much more recycling and i interviewed— much more recycling and i interviewed michael gove on all tnese— interviewed michael gove on all tnese pottotes— interviewed michael gove on all these policies, but— interviewed michael gove on all these policies, but i think you-tt— these policies, but i think your tnt— these policies, but i think you'll find they don't fit the pit— you'll find they don't fit the out no— you'll find they don't fit the bill now literally, because peopte— bill now literally, because peopte eon-t— bill now literally, because people can't afford them and peopte— people can't afford them and peopte ore— people can't afford them and people are interesting on green pottetes— people are interesting on green pottotes .— people are interesting on green pottetes . tney— people are interesting on green policies . they love being green, policies. they love being green, not gutte— policies. they love being green, not gutte so— policies. they love being green, not quite so keen— policies. they love being green, not quite so keen when they need to pay— not quite so keen when they need to poy tor— not quite so keen when they need to poy tor rt.— not quite so keen when they need to poy tor tt. ant— not quite so keen when they need to pay for it. and i— not quite so keen when they need to pay for it. and i don't think you— to pay for it. and i don't think you son— to pay for it. and i don't think you ost— to pay for it. and i don't think you can ask people with a cost of you can ask people with a cost ot tntng— you can ask people with a cost of living crisis,— you can ask people with a cost of living crisis, huge food tnttotton— of living crisis, huge food inflation to _ of living crisis, huge food inflation to pay for it now and the inflation to pay for it now and tne tne— inflation to pay for it now and tne ttne tor— inflation to pay for it now and the time for a— inflation to pay for it now and the time for a u—turn . :
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the time for a u—turn. i read tne— the time for a u—turn. i read the story— the time for a u—turn. i read the story ttot— the time for a u—turn. i read the story that you sent me that this is all based on and the question is who pays for this , question is who pays for this, the local council or the business? right? so ultimately , business? right? so ultimately, lee, you're trying to say that this will be passed on to the consumer, but that is not the case, because ultimately, if we either pay council tax or we pay extra fees for business or for once business goes , you know once business goes, you know what, that £1 billion in profit we made last year is tesco. maybe we could make not 0.999% of profit and change our packaging and just it's a one off thing to change packaging, packaging, change is that once you've done it, you've done it. it's a future investment. you can do that when there's plenty of fat in the business, but there isn't the fat in the business. well, they made £1 ttttton— business. well, they made £1 ttttton ot— business. well, they made £1 billion of profit— business. well, they made £1 billion of profit last- well, they made £1 billion of profit last year. ttot-s— billion of profit last year. ttot-s gutte— billion of profit last year. that's quite a— billion of profit last year. r: but it's that's quite a lot. but it's still a that's quite a lot. but it's stttt o nuge— that's quite a lot. but it's still a huge turnover. - r: but it's still a huge turnover. as a sonrno— still a huge turnover. as a chairman, i'm— still a huge turnover. as a chairman, i'm telling you, if i tt—
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chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion,— chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion, i'd— chairman, i'm telling you, if i was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy-— was £1 billion, i'd be quite noppy. tt-s— was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy- it's no_ was £1 billion, i'd be quite happy. it's no good. you know, tt-s— happy. it's no good. you know, tt-s atte— happy. it's no good. you know, it's like labour— happy. it's no good. you know, it's like labour party policy, you— it's like labour party policy, you know,— it's like labour party policy, you know, too— it's like labour party policy, you know, tax everybody until the you know, tax everybody until tne—nut- you know, tax everybody until the but everybody the pip squeak. but everybody otsoppeors.— the pip squeak. but everybody disappears-same- disappears. the same with tustness— disappears. the same with business-is- disappears. the same with business.-is a- disappears. the same with business. is a massive business. tesco is a massive tustness— business. tesco is a massive tustness tn— business. tesco is a massive business. i'm not— business. tesco is a massive business. i'm not going to i'm sort— business. i'm not going to i'm sort ot— business. i'm not going to i'm sort ot to— business. i'm not going to i'm sort of to tesco,— business. i'm not going to i'm sort of to tesco, but they, they not— sort of to tesco, but they, they are not making— sort of to tesco, but they, they are not making money out of food at are not making money out of food ot tne— are not making money out of food ot tne nronent— are not making money out of food at the moment and— are not making money out of food at the moment and that's what tn — at the moment and that's what tn worrtet— at the moment and that's what i'm worried about.— at the moment and that's what i'm worried about. and i think yore— i'm worried about. and i think youre worrtet— i'm worried about. and i think you're worried as— i'm worried about. and i think you're worried as well about peopte— you're worried as well about peopte nowtng— you're worried as well about people having to buy food. so i tttnt— people having to buy food. so i tntnt ttot-s— people having to buy food. so i think that's why— people having to buy food. so i think that's why at this moment in think that's why at this moment tn tne— think that's why at this moment tn gag, we— think that's why at this moment in time, we don't— think that's why at this moment in time, we don't i'm going to say— in time, we don't i'm going to soy sonetntng— in time, we don't i'm going to say something nice to you, ostuotty— say something nice to you, actually, which— say something nice to you, actually, which is that i absolutely— actually, which is that i absolutely believe that we are not property— absolutely believe that we are not properly valuing farmers. toot— not properly valuing farmers. veon .— not properly valuing farmers. veon . our— not properly valuing farmers. yeah . our food— not properly valuing farmers. yeah. our food production process is broken, basically , process is broken, basically, absolutely broken. and we are not, you know , years and years not, you know, years and years and years of cutting farmers to the quick by the supermarket conglomerates has actually damaged our food chain very, very badly . damaged our food chain very, very badly. but i think that's a separate issue from asking whether private business should pay whether private business should pay for this recycling or local
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councils through local council tax should pay for the recycle. but again, you see, that's the point i'm making. yeah. i mean, neoe— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me— point i'm making. yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me to— g yeah. i mean, heaven forbid me to protect the supernortets. — heaven forbid me to protect the supermarkets. i've— heaven forbid me to protect the supermarkets. i've been at war wttn— supermarkets. i've been at war wttn tnen— supermarkets. i've been at war wttn tneniny— supermarkets. i've been at war with them my life. but but with them all my life. but but sertousty— with them all my life. but but senousty, you— with them all my life. but but seriously, you know, i think were— seriously, you know, i think tnere-noney- seriously, you know, i think there-money and seriously, you know, i think tithink-money and seriously, you know, i think tithink-counciliey and seriously, you know, i think tithink-council tax and seriously, you know, i think tithink council tax is and i think the council tax is rtstng— i think the council tax is rtstngitne— i think the council tax is rising the time. you see, we rising all the time. you see, we are—now of high- are in a period now of high tnttotton— are in a period now of high inflation, high— are in a period now of high inflation, high costs , and inflation, high costs, and tneretore— inflation, high costs, and therefore that's why i say to you— therefore that's why i say to you not— therefore that's why i say to you not abandon the policies, tut— you not abandon the policies, tut tet-s— you not abandon the policies, tut tet-s gtwe— you not abandon the policies, but let's give them a bit more tne— but let's give them a bit more time, because— but let's give them a bit more time, because i— but let's give them a bit more time, because i think they've got— time, because i think they've got-tn— time, because i think they've got-tn ont— time, because i think they've got in and people time, because i think they've got-in and people got got a bed in and people have got tolotte— got a bed in and people have got tolotte to— got a bed in and people have got to.able to afford— got a bed in and people have got to able to afford them either to be able to afford them either tnrougn— through council tax. okay. or a ttwety— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer ,_ through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer , a— through council tax. okay. or a lively consumer , a lively lively consumer, a lively debate. your debate. what's your view, mark@gbnews.uk k would pay mark@gbnews.uk k would you pay more your groceries save more for your groceries to save the planet ? right. next up, more for your groceries to save the planet? right. next up, this is an interesting story. the police have outed drivers by taking photos of their badly parked cars and sharing the photos on social media as well as issuing fines. so should we out and publicly shame bad parkers? yosef i think this is a tense— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea .— parkers? yosef i think this is a terrible idea . it— , / i think this is a terrible idea . it smacks of not terrible idea. it smacks of not nowng— terrible idea. it smacks of not nowng tnot— terrible idea. it smacks of not having that because you're a bad porter.— having that because you're a bad porter. t— having that because you're a bad porter. t on— having that because you're a bad parker. i am, yes.— having that because you're a bad parker. i am, yes. but relevant.
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it parker. i am, yes. but relevant. tt ssts— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. tt ssts ot— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smacks of not— parker. i am, yes. but relevant. it smacks of not having an ostuot— it smacks of not having an actual response— it smacks of not having an actual response when you putttsty— actual response when you publicly shame people, when you ton-t— publicly shame people, when you ton-t nove— publicly shame people, when you don't have legislation or pottstes— don't have legislation or pottstes to— don't have legislation or policies to provide decent porttng— policies to provide decent porttng or— policies to provide decent porttng or to— policies to provide decent parking or to penalise those who ton-t— parking or to penalise those who ton-t port— parking or to penalise those who don't park properly. nine times out ot— don't park properly. nine times out ot ten— don't park properly. nine times out of ten, when— don't park properly. nine times out of ten, when someone parks potty,— out of ten, when someone parks potty, tt-s— out of ten, when someone parks badly, it's because— out of ten, when someone parks badly, it's because there isn't porttng— badly, it's because there isn't porttng tn— badly, it's because there isn't porttng tn tne— badly, it's because there isn't parking in the area and town ptonners— parking in the area and town ptonners ont— parking in the area and town planners and the council need to prowtte— planners and the council need to prowtoe porttng— planners and the council need to provide parking for— planners and the council need to provide parking for people. this is provide parking for people. this ts rust— provide parking for people. this ts tust tne— provide parking for people. this is just the continuation of the war on drivers. _ is just the continuation of the war on drivers. i— is just the continuation of the war on drivers. i think that's a fair point. i think it's also just a demonstration these days, neal just a demonstration these days, neal, of how selfish people have become they they become that when they park, they don't creating don't think about creating enough car. enough space for another car. i'm sure that if we were a pottsy— i'm sure that if we were a pottsy ot— i'm sure that if we were a policy of clobbering bad porters— policy of clobbering bad porters, ny— policy of clobbering bad parkers, my wife would be the first— parkers, my wife would be the ttrst one— parkers, my wife would be the ttrst to — parkers, my wife would be the first one to be— parkers, my wife would be the first one to be caught because sne-s— first one to be caught because sne-s otwoys— first one to be caught because she's always at— first one to be caught because she's always at an— first one to be caught because she's always at an angle. an tnteresttng— she's always at an angle. an interesting angle. but i think the interesting angle. but i think tne-reotty— interesting angle. but i think the-really over- interesting angle. but i think the really over is it bad the issue really over is it bad porttng— the issue really over is it bad porttng or— the issue really over is it bad porttng or ts— the issue really over is it bad parking or is there not enough porttng— parking or is there not enough porttng e— parking or is there not enough porttng eare— parking or is there not enough parking ? are they parking in parking? are they parking in sonetoty-s— parking? are they parking in somebody's driveway ? there are somebody's driveway? there are tttterent— somebody's driveway? there are different times— somebody's driveway? there are different times when you really are different times when you really porttng— different times when you really are parking badly. but but i tttnt— are parking badly. but but i tntnt t— are parking badly. but but i think i spent— are parking badly. but but i think i spent early part of my pottttsot— think i spent early part of my political life— think i spent early part of my political life on— think i spent early part of my political life on a— think i spent early part of my political life on a planning sonntttee— political life on a planning committee. and the trouble is wnen— committee. and the trouble is wnen t— committee. and the trouble is
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wnen t osnt— committee. and the trouble is when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrttte— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrttte .— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrttte . ate— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrible . me but— when i wasn't lucky me, it was terrible . me but the thing is, terrible. me but the thing is, you— terrible. me but the thing is, you note— terrible. me but the thing is, you note not— terrible. me but the thing is, you have not enough parking with noustng.— you have not enough parking with noustng. ant— you have not enough parking with noustng. ant tt— you have not enough parking with housing. and if you— you have not enough parking with housing. and if you if you go out— housing. and if you if you go out tnto— housing. and if you if you go out tnto your— housing. and if you if you go out into your rural areas, etestrts— out into your rural areas, electric cars,— out into your rural areas, electric cars, any sort of cars you— electric cars, any sort of cars you need— electric cars, any sort of cars you need sors— electric cars, any sort of cars you need cars and- electric cars, any sort of cars you need cars and the trouble is tney— you need cars and the trouble is tney ore— you need cars and the trouble is tney portet— you need cars and the trouble is they are parked very often in tne— they are parked very often in tne wrong— they are parked very often in the wrong place,— they are parked very often in the wrong place, not enough porttng— the wrong place, not enough porttng tnot— the wrong place, not enough parking that needs to be dealt wttn. — parking that needs to be dealt wttn. were— parking that needs to be dealt with. we're not— parking that needs to be dealt with. we're not you know, if you wort—nost- with. we're not you know, if you wort—nost ot- with. we're not you know, if you wait _ most of the i wait for a bus in most of the oreos-t— wait for a bus in most of the areas-i represent- wait for a bus in most of the areas i represent in my areas that i represent in my pg,— areas that i represent in my are, wnen— areas that i represent in my life, when the— areas that i represent in my life, when the came along , life, when the bus came along, it life, when the bus came along, tt wouttn-t— life, when the bus came along, it wouldn't-going- life, when the bus came along, it wouldn't going where you it wouldn't be going where you wontet—tnow,| wanted it to go. so you know, you— wanted it to go. so you know, you-prtwote- wanted it to go. so you know, you private transport you do need private transport ont— you do need private transport one-need— you do need private transport and need somewhere park and you need somewhere to park it and you need somewhere to park tt—synpotny- and you need somewhere to park tt—synpotny wttni it. so i got some sympathy with it, it. so i got some sympathy with p, tut— it. so i got some sympathy with p, tut not— it. so i got some sympathy with it, but not parking— it. so i got some sympathy with it, but not parking in somebody's- it, but not parking in somebody's driveway . ' ”ti: it, but not parking in— somebody's driveway . are you somebody's driveway. are you ute— somebody's driveway. are you ttte rereny— somebody's driveway. are you like jeremy clarkson that like jeremy clarkson in that tractor yeah, probably tractor of yours? yeah, probably that . that's right. that thing around. that's right. you lamborghini? ihaven't you got a lamborghini? i haven't yet, i see one in you got a lamborghini? i haven't yet,-i-see one in the- yet, but i did see one in the paper— yet, but i did see one in the poper-otner— yet, but i did see one in the paper-other day.- yet, but i did see one in the paper other day. that paper the other day. that was very— paper the other day. that was very tenpttng— paper the other day. that was very tempting. listen, very tempting. oh, listen, i wont— very tempting. oh, listen, i won't—becausel very tempting. oh, listen, i. won't—because we very tempting. oh, listen, i- won't_because we know won't ask emma, because we know not— that women are much better porters—tnnol that women are much better porters—tnno .i that women are much better- parkers_emma , you're parkers than men. emma, you're a very— parkers than men. emma, you're a very creative person. award winning playwright. all the rest of moore's son has of it. roger moore's son has said only a british person said that only a british person should play james bond. some suggestion an american could fill the role. your reaction ? fill the role. your reaction? i'm just thinking of the amount
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of british actors that i've seen playing americans is i'm it's payback time. i'm getting quite trest— payback time. i'm getting quite ttret ot— payback time. i'm getting quite ttret ot tne— payback time. i'm getting quite tired of the you— payback time. i'm getting quite tired of the you have— f c i'm getting quite tired of the you have to be ex to ptoy— tired of the you have to be ex to ptoy. wnye— tired of the you have to be ex to play. why? but— tired of the you have to be ex to play. why? but would it have to play. why? but would it have to te— to play. why? but would it have to te o— to play. why? but would it have to be a british— to play. why? but would it have to be a british accent. “in?" to be a british accent. yeah tes. — to be a british accent. yeah tes. tt— to be a british accent. yeah tes. tt tt— to be a british accent. yeah yes. if it was— to be a british accent. yeah yes. if it was george clooney, would he have to give it the plum, you know? oh god. can they do slightly better— plum, you know? oh god. can they do slightly better than— , citzrr: can they do slightly better than gwyneth tottrow-s— do slightly better than gwyneth paltrow's one— do slightly better than gwyneth paltrow's one note british ossent— paltrow's one note british accent,-it's- paltrow's one note british accent,-it's his- paltrow's one note british accent, it's his majesty's accent, but it's his majesty's stwt. — accent, but it's his majesty's stwt. .tnsw— accent, but it's his majesty's civil. .know ,- accent, but it's his majesty's civil. .know , secret- accent, but it's his majesty's- civil. .know , secret service. civil. you know, secret service. it's got to be a brit. it really has. we can't have an american. the mi6 is right now, it should probably be a russian . there probably be a russian. there seems to be they probably speak better english. there seems to better english. there seems to te tnts— better english. there seems to be we tort— better english. there seems to be this dark pleasure- g there seems to be this dark pleasure that some peopte— be this dark pleasure that some peopte nove— be this dark pleasure that some peopte nowe tn— be this dark pleasure that some people have in changing ewerytntng— people have in changing everything that's established. veon—nos- everything that's established. yeah,_has been. yeah, james bond has been ernnt.— yeah, james bond has been british. he's— yeah, james bond has been british. he's known across the wont— british. he's known across the worttltetng— british. he's known across the world being british. world as being british. let's teep— world as being british. let's teep-woy. - world as being british. let's keep-way. there. world as being british. let's keep way. ”tit; world as being british. let's- keep-way. there you go. keep it that way. there you go. quite on. tonight quite right on. tonight let me tell yosef david. oh, yes , tell you, yosef david. oh, yes, i know. drinking— / jr?“ r: oh, yes, i know. drinking martinis and snostng— i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. _ i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. ' atlas i know. drinking martinis and chasing ladies. g chasing ladies. absolutely right . snout— chasing ladies. absolutely right . snoutt tney— chasing ladies. absolutely right . should they decide- chasing ladies. absolutely right . should they decide ? - chasing ladies. ' atlas q should they decide ? t“ . should they decide? in the testos— . should they decide? in the 19605, casino— . should they decide? in the 1960s, casino royale, there was a whole load of different ones.
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there you go. listen, i've quite steorty— there you go. listen, i've quite steorty tost— there you go. listen, i've quite clearly lost control— there you go. listen, i've quite clearly lost control of the postets. — clearly lost control of the postets. at— clearly lost control of the pockets. at 10:00, i'll be teottng— pockets. at 10:00, i'll be dealing with— pockets. at 10:00, i'll be dealing with holly willoughby. you wont— dealing with holly willoughby. you won't want— dealing with holly willoughby. you won't want to miss it. it's going— you won't want to miss it. it's gotng to— you won't want to miss it. it's gotng to te— you won't want to miss it. it's gotng to be too— you won't want to miss it. it's going to be box office telly and my tote— going to be box office telly and my tote ot— going to be box office telly and my tote ot ten. — going to be box office telly and my take at ten. but next up, i'm tettgntet— my take at ten. but next up, i'm tettgntet to— my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to-in_ my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to-in the- my take at ten. but next up, i'm delighted to in the studio, delighted to say in the studio, nons— delighted to say in the studio, nons suppontng— delighted to say in the studio, boris supporting tory mp david ttorrts— boris supporting tory mp david morris—meets- boris supporting tory mp david morris meets guest morris is my mark meets guest ont— morris is my mark meets guest one-got— morris is my mark meets guest ont-got gutte— morris is my mark meets guest and-got quite the- morris is my mark meets guest and got quite the story .
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it's time now for mark meets and tnts— it's time now for mark meets and we ewentng— it's time now for mark meets and this evening the— it's time now for mark meets and this evening the popular and very— this evening the popular and very osttwe— this evening the popular and very active conservative mp for ttoresonte— very active conservative mp for morecambe and _ very active conservative mp for morecambe and lunesdale david ttorrts— morecambe and lunesdale david ttorrts .— morecambe and lunesdale david ttorrts . poww— morecambe and lunesdale david morris . david, welcome to mark morris. david, welcome to mark noton— morris. david, welcome to mark noton tontgtt— morris. david, welcome to mark dolan tonight. hi— morris. david, welcome to mark dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. tnont— dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. tnont you— dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. tnont you tor. — dolan tonight. hi mark, thanks. thank you for. well, it's great to note— thank you for. well, it's great to note you— thank you for. well, it's great to have you come— thank you for. well, it's great to have you come in, given up a stunt— to have you come in, given up a stunt ot— to have you come in, given up a chunk of-sunday- to have you come in, given up a chunk of sunday evening and chunk of your sunday evening and i chunk of your sunday evening and t-tntnt— chunk of your sunday evening and t-tntnt tnot— chunk of your sunday evening and i-think that-work- i actually think that mps work very— i actually think that mps work very-ont— i actually think that mps work very-ont-tong- i actually think that mps work very and long hours very hard and work long hours ont— very hard and work long hours ont tor— very hard and work long hours ont tor you— very hard and work long hours on tor you to— very hard and work long hours and for you to give up your suntoy— and for you to give up your sunooy ntgnt— and for you to give up your sunday night is— and for you to give up your sunday night is very appreciated. look, appreciated. thank you. so look, we-we-you— appreciated. thank you. so look, we-we-you tn.— appreciated. thank you. so look, we've-you in. we're- appreciated. thank you. so look, we've you in. we're going we've got you in. we're going to
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get-rnponont— we've got you in. we're going to get-important-of. get to the important issue of pottttss—tesl get to the important issue of. politics—yes. but politics in a moment. yes. but you— politics in a moment. yes. but you-onse— politics in a moment. yes. but you-onse tn— politics in a moment. yes. but you-onse tn o— politics in a moment. yes. but you once in a band politics in a moment. yes. but. you-once in a band-pop you were once in a band with pop superstor— you were once in a band with pop superstar .astley. _ you were once in a band with pop superstar astley. now superstar rick astley. now yore— superstar rick astley. now youre—wnot- superstar rick astley. now. you're—what went you're a tory mp. what went wronge— you're a tory mp. what went wrongs-t— you're a tory mp. what went wrong?-i often- you're a tory mp. what went wrong? i often ask myself wrong? well i often ask myself ttot,— wrong? well i often ask myself tnot, tut— wrong? well i often ask myself tnot, tut t— wrong? well i often ask myself that, but i always— wrong? well i often ask myself that, but i always say, what went— that, but i always say, what went-t— that, but i always say, what went-t towe- that, but i always say, what went-i love-job. went right? i love my job. i actually and i've become an actually do. and i've become an mp 13 years ago and every day is a different day. and i think that's why i still feel fresh to the job for sure. and you know, you are a very accomplished musician and worked musician and you worked with rick astley. so was your music . wos tt— so was your music career. was it something that you— career. was it something that you soutt— career. was it something that you could have— career. was it something that you could have pursued ? t/rt;~3 c you could have pursued? yes, it t— you could have pursued? yes, it t ostuotty— you could have pursued? yes, it was. i actually came— you could have pursued? yes, it was. i actually came out of the music industry when i was about 23, up a chain of 23, 24, and i set up a chain of hairdressing salons. i was a hairdresser before that. i trained to be hairdresser and trained to be a hairdresser and i realised that, you know , i just realised that, you know, in those days, the tail end of the 80s going into the acidosis era, maybe my ship had sailed. so decided then to open up so i decided then to open up a chain of salons, started off with it went big. it's with one and it went big. it's amazing. well, i always think it's amazing. well, i always think tt-s-to— amazing. well, i always think tt-s-to nove— 3 well, i always think it's to have entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's houseiave entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's house ofa entrepreneurs 3 well, i always think it's house of commonsieurs 3 well, i always think it's house of commons because in the house of commons because ttot-s— in the house of commons because tnot-s—toot- that's important that we look otter— that's important that we look otter snott— that's important that we look after small businesses. and i wont— after small businesses. and i wont-your— after small businesses. and i won't your appraisal of won't ask for your appraisal of my won't ask for your appraisal of mat—it- won't ask for your appraisal of
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ny—tt ttwttesl my barnet because it divides optnton— my barnet because it divides optnton . — my barnet because it divides optnton. tn— my barnet because it divides opinion . i'm well- my barnet because it divides opinion . ”cc ”cc opinion. i'm well retired. i'm glad to hear it. i was i was going— glad to hear it. i was i was gotng to— glad to hear it. i was i was gotng to ost— glad to hear it. i was i was going to ask you- glad to hear it. i was i was going to ask you for- grin: c iwas i was going to ask you for a back sono— going to ask you for a back sont, tut— going to ask you for a back comb, but maybe another time. tet-s— comb, but maybe another time. tet-s tott— comb, but maybe another time. let's talk about— comb, but maybe another time. let's talk about your political career. you pursue a career. why did you pursue a career in politics— career. why did you pursue a career in politics then? i reotty— career in politics then? i reotty rust— career in politics then? i really just got- career in politics then? i really just got frustrated about what was going on around me. i'm from leigh originally. leigh in lancashire was born in leigh. i've been in a shipping family, went around world, went all around the world, came back leigh. i saw my town back to leigh. i saw my town going down and down and down and i decided to do something i just decided to do something about it. so i stood for local council and the rest is history . three campaigns later did . three campaigns later i did blackpool in 2001. i did pembrokeshire tenby in 2005 and i got elected in morecambe in 2010. and i remember the time saying, well, you know, this candidate does like a seat by the seaside and i think that was all because of my upbringing. my father was in shipping and we went all around the world. you travelled the world as a child? i did. i did. did that shape your— i did. i did. did that shape your otes— i did. i did. did that shape your values or— i did. i did. did that shape your values or your- r: r: r: r: did that shape your values or your attitudes? i it your values or your attitudes? t-tt prototy— your values or your attitudes? i-it probably did- your values or your attitudes? i-it probably did to- your values or your attitudes?
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i-it probably did to a- i think it probably did to a large i always large extent. i always considered my home to be the uk , though it , you know, even though it was very at the time, moving very small at the time, moving away, i think was in 68, 69, away, i think it was in 68, 69, we to hong kong. i can we went to hong kong. i can remember various things from back home, but i'm from this mill town and my family was from there. we went back there and yeah, i mean it was home. my parents sorry. my father, he still lives in the area. if you had your way, would boris johnson still be prime minister? i think yes. if i had my way, it would be. i know. what? what went on. and i'll be totally honest with you, you know, for all the good and the bad of it and what came out afterwards is, you know, we were in extraordinary times and, you know, wasn't in number know, i wasn't there in number 10. know what was going 10. i didn't know what was going on. but boris there. he saw on. but boris was there. he saw it. actually the it. and he actually got the investigations on himself. and if you've watching what's if you've been watching what's been recently, he's been going on recently, he's been going on recently, he's been very open about it. i don't think if boris did do anything wrong, i honestly believe he didn't did. and wrong, i honestly believe he didn't did . and what didn't think he did. and what about at brexit?—
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didn't think he did. and what about at brexit? what's- r: r: c r: r: and what about at brexit? what's your opprotsot— about at brexit? what's your opprotsot ot— about at brexit? what's your appraisal of how it's going and did appraisal of how it's going and oto you— appraisal of how it's going and oto you post— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it in— appraisal of how it's going and did you back it in the first ptosee— did you back it in the first ptosee t— did you back it in the first place? i didn't. i was a remainer in the first place. but did you vote remain with a heavy heart? were you one of those pottttstonse— heart? were you one of those politicians? that— heart? were you one of those politicians? that-bit. politicians? that was a bit spttt. — politicians? that was a bit spttt. t— politicians? that was a bit spttt. t wos— politicians? that was a bit split. i was to- politicians? that was a bit split. i was to be- politicians? that was a bit split. i was to be truthful with you. david cameron you. i remember david cameron taking one side and he taking me to one side and he said, , we're going to stay said, look, we're going to stay in eu. do get that. and in the eu. you do get that. and i said it in the i famously said it in the commons. know, you've been i famously said it in the comntots. know, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me know, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and now, you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and my', you've been i famously said it in the comnto me and my peoplet been i famously said it in the comnto me and my people ineen good to me and my people in morecambe by morecambe and i'm standing by you . we were a 5050 seat and you. we were a 5050 seat and then as time went on it was evident that it more now it evident that it was more now it was 60 over 40. but bear in mind the biggest employer in my constituency the french constituency is edf, the french government. so you know, at first it was a 5050. then you could see it starting to break away. i do think that away. and i do think that brexit is a success. now i'm on two committees. i'm on the council of and i've just read of europe, and i've just read something the paper something in the paper about that, and i'm also on the ppa, which the parliamentary which is the parliamentary partnership hope partnership association. i hope i've one right, and i've got that one right, and that's a new one that's been set up to basically do trade between the eu and the uk.
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up to basically do trade between the eu and the uk . so as you can the eu and the uk. so as you can tell, i'm very busy on interfacing with europe trying to get the best deal forward. and of course we have a tariff tree— and of course we have a tariff tree trotte— and of course we have a tariff free trade deal— and of course we have a tariff free trade deal with europe wntsn—tneyl free trade deal with europe- which _they neglect which people forget they neglect to—ts— which people forget they neglect to—tslteot- which people forget they neglect to_isldeal which to mention there is a deal which tney— to mention there is a deal which tney-wosnt— to mention there is a deal which they wasn't possible. they they said wasn't possible. they sort—wos- said the backstop was non—negotiable. we got it out. so non—negotiable. we got it out. so t— non—negotiable. we got it out. so t personotty— non—negotiable. we got it out. so i personally think that there are so i personally think that there tew— so i personally think that there are few brexiteers_ so i personally think that there are few brexiteers that need to dye— are few brexiteers that need to gtwe tnetr— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads a— are few brexiteers that need to give their heads a bit of a worse— give their heads a bit of a wobble when— give their heads a bit of a wobble when they say that it's not pure— wobble when they say that it's not pure-rts- wobble when they say that it's not pure-it's not- wobble when they say that it's not pure it's not good not pure enough, it's not good enougn. — not pure enough, it's not good enougn. -your— not pure enough, it's not good- enough. _your-well, enough. what's your view? well, i enough. what's your view? well, t-newer— enough. what's your view? well, t-newerlpurtst— enough. what's your view? well, i-neverlpurist in- enough. what's your view? well, i-neverlpurist in the- i was never a purist in the sense that, know, i'm sense that, you know, look, i'm a grown have to work with a grown up, we have to work with europe, have to with europe, we have to trade with europe. it's absolute fact. europe. it's an absolute fact. you 40 odd % of our trade you know, 40 odd% of our trade is european. is it a slight is the european. is it a slight tetroyot— is the european. is it a slight betrayal,_those. betrayal, though, for those businesses _ betrayal, though, for those businesses struggling businesses that are struggling wttn— businesses that are struggling with-paperwork?- businesses that are struggling with paperwork? and of with the paperwork? and of course , my-and. with the paperwork? and of- course , my-and listeners course, my viewers and listeners in course, my viewers and listeners tn-tretont— course, my viewers and listeners tn-tretont tn— course, my viewers and listeners in-ireland in all- in northern ireland in all nonesty,— in northern ireland in all honesty, the— in northern ireland in all honesty, the paperwork is too nusn. — honesty, the paperwork is too nusn. _wny- honesty, the paperwork is too much. _why the. honesty, the paperwork is too. much. _why the ppa honesty, the paperwork is too- much. _why the ppa was much. and that's why the ppa was set up so that we could interface with europe try and interface with europe to try and sort out. know from my sort that out. i know from my perspective was touring perspective it was touring arts was reasons why i was was one of the reasons why i was put that that committee and put on that that committee and we're still looking into that and it a minefield, it's and it is a minefield, but it's how is. you see the
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how the industry is. you see the paperwork side of it doesn't reflect the industry is. reflect how the industry is. to give example, lot of my give you an example, a lot of my good friends who are still touring, they will hire instruments even buy instruments abroad or even buy instruments abroad or even buy instruments and store them abroad so that they can do tours. it's crazy, isn't it? it's bonkers, the whole thing. you the uk national space you are the uk national space champion, former chair of the parliamentary space committee for about a decade. why is space exptorotton— for about a decade. why is space exploration important?— :f: why is space exploration important? what does it exploration important? what does tt gtwe— exploration important? what does tt gtwe ny— exploration important? what does it give my viewers— exploration important? what does it give my viewers and ttstenerse— it give my viewers and listeners? _ it give my viewers and listeners? rattle it give my viewers and listeners? witt“ it give my viewers and- listeners? well , you know, your listeners? well, you know, your viewers are watching this program now. and somewhere along the way, the signal will be going up in space on a satellite and coming down wherever they are in the uk or even abroad. so that's one example why that's just one example of why space is very important. but of course, telecommunications course, with telecommunications being are don't being as they are now, don't forget satnav, your car forget you, satnav, in your car , that's just another , you know, that's just another example . your calls example. your telephone calls when spain we benefit when your phone spain we benefit from technologies. i from all those technologies. i couldn't agree. a quick one tetore— couldn't agree. a quick one before-back- couldn't agree. a quick one- before-backlelephant before you go back to elephant ont— before you go back to elephant one—tntng- before you go back to elephant and—living the- and castle, all living the treon — and castle, all living the dream. lucky— and castle, all living the dream. lucky you . when's dream. lucky you. when's the tote— dream. lucky you. when's the tote-tne— dream. lucky you. when's the date .the next— dream. lucky you. when's the date the next election and date of the next election and wno— date of the next election and wno wtnse — date of the next election and wno wtnse t—
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date of the next election and who wins? i don't- date of the next election and who wins? ct?" c date of the next election and who wins? cc?" c c date of the next election and who wins? ct?" c c who wins? i don't know. it's the truth of it. would say it's truth of it. i would say it's next i mean, next year. yeah. i mean, obviously we it's going to obviously we know it's going to be that spring, summer, be in that spring, summer, autumn . personally, i would say autumn. personally, i would say it's probably time next it's probably this time next year. all right. well, look, poww— year. all right. well, look, david, thrilled _ year. all right. well, look, david, thrilled to - all right. well, look, david, thrilled to have you in tne— david, thrilled to have you in tne stutto— david, thrilled to have you in the studio-catch- david, thrilled to have you in the studio. catch up soon. the studio. we'll catch up soon. my the studio. we'll catch up soon. mai-tory— the studio. we'll catch up soon. wy-tory ttt- the studio. we'll catch up soon. my-tory mp david. my thanks to tory mp david ttorrts— my thanks to tory mp david ttorrts wett— my thanks to tory mp david morris next-i'm- my thanks to tory mp david morris next i'm excited to morris next up, i'm excited to say— morris next up, i'm excited to soy—wtn- morris next up, i'm excited to soy—wttn nottyi say i'll be dealing with holly wtttougnty—oti willoughby in my take at ten. tou— willoughby in my take at ten. you—to— willoughby in my take at ten. you—to ss- willoughby in my take at ten. you—to miss it.- willoughby in my take at ten.| you—to miss it. box you won't want to miss it. box otttse— you won't want to miss it. box office. telephone— you won't want to miss it. box office. telephone you .
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in two. it's. in two. it's 10:00 in two. - it's 10:00 on tn two. — it's 10:00 on television on it's10:00 on television on rotto— it's10:00 on television on rotto ont— it's10:00 on television on radio and online in the united ttngton— radio and online in the united ttngoon ont— radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. rns— kingdom and across the world. we ts— kingdom and across the world. we ts wort— kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. in my tote— this is mark dolan tonight. in my tote ot— this is mark dolan tonight. in my tote ot ten— this is mark dolan tonight. in my take at ten, grinning millionaire— my take at ten, grinning millionaire ,_ my take at ten, grinning millionaire , a- my take at ten, grinning millionaire , a holly willoughby millionaire, a holly willoughby will millionaire, a holly willoughby wttt ottress— millionaire, a holly willoughby will address the— millionaire, a holly willoughby will address the nation tomorrow as will address the nation tomorrow os sne— will address the nation tomorrow os sne retrns— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to— will address the nation tomorrow as she returns to the this norntng— as she returns to the this morning sofa.— as she returns to the this morning sofa. she thinks that tnts— morning sofa. she thinks that
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we wit— morning sofa. she thinks that we wttt te— morning sofa. she thinks that this will be the— morning sofa. she thinks that this will be the last word , but this will be the last word, but the this will be the last word, but tne story— this will be the last word, but tne story nos— this will be the last word, but the story has only— this will be the last word, but the story has only begun. you wont— the story has only begun. you wont wont— the story has only begun. you wont wont to— the story has only begun. you won't want to miss my unopposed , energetts— won't want to miss my unopposed , energetic reaction— won't want to miss my unopposed , energetic reaction to the snowttz— , energetic reaction to the showbiz story— , energetic reaction to the showbiz story of the year. and let showbiz story of the year. and tet ne— showbiz story of the year. and tet ne tett— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you,— showbiz story of the year. and let me tell you, folks, i will not— let me tell you, folks, i will not te— let me tell you, folks, i will not be pulling— let me tell you, folks, i will not be pulling my punches . also not be pulling my punches. also otso— not be pulling my punches. also otso .— not be pulling my punches. also otso , wttt— not be pulling my punches. also also , will tax— not be pulling my punches. also also , will tax cuts— not be pulling my punches. also also , will tax cuts save the also, will tax cuts save the tones— also, will tax cuts save the tortes e— also, will tax cuts save the tories ? i'll— also, will tax cuts save the tories ? i'll be— also, will tax cuts save the tories ? i'll be asking tonight's tories? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker formidable politics tegent— newsmaker formidable politics tegent ann— newsmaker formidable politics legend ann widdecombe. and is it tne— legend ann widdecombe. and is it ttne to— legend ann widdecombe. and is it ttne to srost— legend ann widdecombe. and is it time to crack down— legend ann widdecombe. and is it time to crack down on westminster- time to crack down on westminster sex pests? mark noton— westminster sex pests? mark dolan tonight— westminster sex pests? mark dolan tonight is— westminster sex pests? mark dolan tonight is the home of the popers— dolan tonight is the home of the popers wttn— dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages— papers with tomorrow's front poges ot— papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly— papers with tomorrow's front pages at exactly 1030 sharp . pages at exactly 1030 sharp. so pages at exactly 1030 sharp. so o— pages at exactly 1030 sharp. so o busy— pages at exactly 1030 sharp. so o tusy two— pages at exactly 1030 sharp. so a busy two hours to come. noto— so a busy two hours to come. not your— so a busy two hours to come. hold your hats,— so a busy two hours to come. hold your hats, folks. it is my tote— hold your hats, folks. it is my tote ot— hold your hats, folks. it is my tote ot ten. — hold your hats, folks. it is my take at ten. and— hold your hats, folks. it is my take at ten. and it's holly wtttougnty.— take at ten. and it's holly willoughby. and this morning, otter— willoughby. and this morning, otter tne— willoughby. and this morning, after the headlines with a proper— after the headlines with a proper presenter, bethany elsey
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. wort.— proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank— proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank you. _ proper presenter, bethany elsey . mark, thank you. good evening . i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom. the immigration minister says the uk's asylum system is riddled with abuse and that the government must reduce its reliance on hotels to house migrants. it's after protests were held outside a hotel in central london where migrants were asked to sleep four to a room. speaking to camilla tominey, robert jenrick said it's wrong for migrants to demand better accommodation while their asylum claims are processed . he also said the uk processed. he also said the uk is spending £6 million a day on hotels and that asking migrants to share a room is necessary to get value for taxpayers money. remember, these are migrants who nove— remember, these are migrants who nowe sort— remember, these are migrants who nowe sott tney— remember, these are migrants who have said they are— remember, these are migrants who have said they are destitute, tney-we— have said they are destitute, tney-we sort— have said they are destitute, they've said that they have otsotutety— they've said that they have absolutely nowhere to stay, no trtents— absolutely nowhere to stay, no trtents no— absolutely nowhere to stay, no friends, no family, no money. ant— friends, no family, no money. ant tne— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer— friends, no family, no money. and the taxpayer is stepping up and and the taxpayer is stepping up on prowtotng— and the taxpayer is stepping up and providing them with good guottty— and providing them with good quality accommodation in and boot— quality accommodation in and toort ont— quality accommodation in and board and lodgings. quality accommodation in and board and lodgings . and so those board and lodgings. and so those i board and lodgings. and so those ttntnt— board and lodgings. and so those ttntnt tnose— board and lodgings. and so those i think those migrants are wrong
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to protest— i think those migrants are wrong to protest ont— i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say— i think those migrants are wrong to protest and say that they deserve— to protest and say that they deserve to— to protest and say that they deserve to have— to protest and say that they deserve to have single bedrooms wttn— deserve to have single bedrooms wttn en— deserve to have single bedrooms wttn en sutte— deserve to have single bedrooms with en suite bathrooms and so on. with en suite bathrooms and so ant— with en suite bathrooms and so ant tn— with en suite bathrooms and so on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense— on. and i'm pleased to see that common sense seems to have prewottet— common sense seems to have prewottet tn— common sense seems to have prevailed in this— common sense seems to have prevailed in this case. the tontty— prevailed in this case. the tontty ot— prevailed in this case. the tontty st o— prevailed in this case. the family of a 71— prevailed in this case. the family of a 71 year old boy who died after being pulled from the sea off bournemouth beach have said they are heartbroken and devastated. joe abbas from southampton and a 12 year old girl named in reports as sunak khan from high wycombe in buckinghamshire. both died in the incident which involved ten swimmers a sightseeing boat named the dorset belle has been impounded by police . a man has impounded by police. a man has been charged after allegedly wearing a shirt to the fa cup final yesterday, which appeared to have an offensive reference to have an offensive reference to the hillsborough disaster. 33 year old james white from warwickshire has been charged with displaying threatening or abusive writing and is expected to appear at willesden magistrates court next week. 97 liverpool fans died in 1989 at the hillsborough stadium in
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sheffield . authorities in india sheffield. authorities in india say a signal failure was likely responsible for the country's worst train crash in decades . worst train crash in decades. 275 people were killed in the accident and another 1200 were injured when a passenger train hit a stationary freight train before derailing and striking a second passing train . india's second passing train. india's railway board has recommended the investigation be handed over to the country's federal authorities and the duke of sussex will appear at the high court tomorrow to give evidence on the witness stand against the publisher of the daily mirror. prince harry claims around 140 published articles contained information gathered using unlawful methods, including phone hacking. mirror group newspapers is contesting the claims as you're up to date on jb news. now let's get back to .
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mark thanks , bethany. welcome to mark thanks, bethany. welcome to mark noton— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark noton tontgnt— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark noton tontgnt .— thanks, bethany. welcome to mark dolan tonight . right.— welcome to mark dolan tonight. right. will tax suts— dolan tonight. right. will tax cuts save the— dolan tonight. right. will tax cuts save the tories? i'll be osttng— cuts save the tories? i'll be asking tonight's— cuts save the tories? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, pottttss— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend,— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend, an widdecombe. and politics legend, an widdecombe. ant ts— politics legend, an widdecombe. ant ts tt— politics legend, an widdecombe. ant ts tt tne— politics legend, an widdecombe. and is it time to— politics legend, an widdecombe. and is it time to crack down on westntnster— and is it time to crack down on westminster sex— and is it time to crack down on westminster sex pests? is the wnote— westminster sex pests? is the wnote ptose— westminster sex pests? is the wnote ptose o— westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant , westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant, a westminster sex pests? is the whole place a giant , a knocking whole place a giant, a knocking snope— whole place a giant, a knocking snope tne— whole place a giant, a knocking snope tne popers— whole place a giant, a knocking shop? the papers at 1030 with tutt— shop? the papers at 1030 with tutt punttt— shop? the papers at 1030 with full pundit reaction. plus, wett— full pundit reaction. plus, we-tt nove— full pundit reaction. plus, we'll have tonight's headline, neoes— we'll have tonight's headline, neoes ont— we'll have tonight's headline, heroes and back— we'll have tonight's headline, heroes and back page zeroes. big stones— heroes and back page zeroes. big stortes ttg— heroes and back page zeroes. big stories, big guests— heroes and back page zeroes. big stories, big guests and always big stories, big guests and always ttg optntons— stories, big guests and always ttg optntons .— stories, big guests and always big opinions . let's start with big opinions. let's start with my— big opinions. let's start with my tote— big opinions. let's start with my tote .— big opinions. let's start with my tote . at— big opinions. let's start with my take . at ten. _ big opinions. let's start with my take . at ten. forget about my take. at ten. forget about tne— my take. at ten. forget about tne stote— my take. at ten. forget about the state opening of parliament, the the state opening of parliament, tne ttng-s— the state opening of parliament, the king's coronation, the fa cup— the king's coronation, the fa sup ttnot— the king's coronation, the fa sup ttnot or— the king's coronation, the fa cup final or the— the king's coronation, the fa cup final or the last night of tne— cup final or the last night of tne trons— cup final or the last night of tne trons .— cup final or the last night of the proms . the— cup final or the last night of the proms . the greatest moments the proms. the greatest moments of the proms. the greatest moments ot nottonot— the proms. the greatest moments of national importance is upon us. of national importance is upon snt— of national importance is upon on text— of national importance is upon us. girl next door— of national importance is upon us. girl next door tv star and sorporotton— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in a— us. girl next door tv star and corporation in a skirt. holly wtttougnty— corporation in a skirt. holly willoughby will address the notton— willoughby will address the notton on— willoughby will address the nation on her— willoughby will address the nation on her return to the this
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norntng— nation on her return to the this norntng soto— nation on her return to the this morning sofa leaked details to the morning sofa leaked details to tne sun— morning sofa leaked details to the sun newspaper, which read atte— the sun newspaper, which read ttte o— the sun newspaper, which read more like a press— the sun newspaper, which read more like a press release say not— more like a press release say tnot notty— more like a press release say that holly willoughby will present— that holly willoughby will present tne— that holly willoughby will present the show tomorrow and note— present the show tomorrow and note o— present the show tomorrow and make a sensitive— present the show tomorrow and make a sensitive and caring speesn— make a sensitive and caring speesn wntsn— make a sensitive and caring speech which addresses the drama of speech which addresses the drama ot tne— speech which addresses the drama ot tne tost— speech which addresses the drama of the last couple— speech which addresses the drama of the last couple of weeks in retotton— of the last couple of weeks in retotton to— of the last couple of weeks in relation to phillip— of the last couple of weeks in relation to phillip schofield ottotr— relation to phillip schofield ottotr wttn— relation to phillip schofield affair with a _ relation to phillip schofield affair with a much younger male sotteogue— affair with a much younger male sotteogue tn— affair with a much younger male colleague in her— affair with a much younger male colleague in her state of the unton— colleague in her state of the union address,— colleague in her state of the union address, which will have the union address, which will have tne wortt— union address, which will have tne wortt on— union address, which will have the world on the— union address, which will have the world on the edge of its seot— the world on the edge of its seot .— the world on the edge of its seot . sne-s— the world on the edge of its seat . she's expected to seat. she's expected to retterote — seat. she's expected to reiterate the - seat. she's expected to reiterate the fact that she knew notntng— reiterate the fact that she knew notntng otout— reiterate the fact that she knew nothing about this relationship . sne— nothing about this relationship . sne wttt— nothing about this relationship . she will expect— nothing about this relationship . she will expect us to believe not— . she will expect us to believe tnot sne— . she will expect us to believe tnot sne wos— . she will expect us to believe that she was unaware that phil ont— that she was unaware that phil ont tnts— that she was unaware that phil on we young— that she was unaware that phil and this young lad didn't have a spestot— and this young lad didn't have a special connection— and this young lad didn't have a special connection , an even special connection, an even tnougn— special connection, an even tnougn net— special connection, an even though he'd been working on the progronne— though he'd been working on the progronne tor— though he'd been working on the programme for the— though he'd been working on the programme for the shortest time tetore— programme for the shortest time tetore rotntng— programme for the shortest time before joining presenters and top protusers— before joining presenters and top producers on stage at the wottonot— top producers on stage at the national television awards in sets,— national television awards in zero, or— national television awards in zero, or not— national television awards in 2018, or that he— national television awards in 2018, or that he joined senior eestes— 2018, or that he joined senior executives on— 2018, or that he joined senior executives on a— 2018, or that he joined senior executives on a luxury champagne ttttet— executives on a luxury champagne ttttet toot— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides all— executives on a luxury champagne filled boat rides all exclusive tetotts— filled boat rides all exclusive details brought— filled boat rides all exclusive details brought to you by the ttot-s— details brought to you by the mail's brilliant— details brought to you by the mail's brilliant katie hind .
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mail's brilliant katie hind. wnot— mail's brilliant katie hind. wnot otout— mail's brilliant katie hind. what about the fact that phil ont— what about the fact that phil ont tnts— what about the fact that phil and this younger man dined out togetner— and this younger man dined out together regularly— and this younger man dined out together regularly and this young— together regularly and this young non— together regularly and this young man who is now pulling ptnts— young man who is now pulling ptnts tn— young man who is now pulling ptnts tn o— young man who is now pulling pints in a northern pub enjoyed a cameo as an elf— pints in a northern pub enjoyed a cameo as an elf on a this norntng— a cameo as an elf on a this morning christmas special. torget— morning christmas special. torget otout— morning christmas special. forget about santa. what was in ssnottett— forget about santa. what was in schofield dad's— forget about santa. what was in schofield dad's sack? look i nowen-t— schofield dad's sack? look i haven't seen— schofield dad's sack? look i haven't seen holly's speech , haven't seen holly's speech, wntsn— haven't seen holly's speech, wntsn ts— haven't seen holly's speech, wntsn ts no— haven't seen holly's speech, which is no doubt going to be up were— which is no doubt going to be up tnere wttn— which is no doubt going to be up there with the _ which is no doubt going to be up there with the gettysburg address — there with the gettysburg address. of _ there with the gettysburg address. of course it will. atronon— address. of course it will. abraham lincoln, eat your heart out.— abraham lincoln, eat your heart out. churchill's— abraham lincoln, eat your heart out. churchill's wartime radio trootsosts— out. churchill's wartime radio broadcasts, they— out. churchill's wartime radio broadcasts, they will have that tewet— broadcasts, they will have that tewet ot— broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas— broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas ,_ broadcasts, they will have that level of gravitas , i've got no level of gravitas, i've got no touts— level of gravitas, i've got no doubt. ant— level of gravitas, i've got no doubt. and margaret thatcher's the doubt. and margaret thatcher's tne toty-s— doubt. and margaret thatcher's tne toty-s not— doubt. and margaret thatcher's the lady's not for— doubt. and margaret thatcher's the lady's not for turning speesn— the lady's not for turning speesn .— the lady's not for turning speech . well,— the lady's not for turning speech . well, let me tell you speech. well, let me tell you gag,— speech. well, let me tell you rag, notty— speech. well, let me tell you rag, notty ts— speech. well, let me tell you that, holly is not— speech. well, let me tell you that, holly is not for turning enter.— that, holly is not for turning ettner. ant— that, holly is not for turning either. and she's— that, holly is not for turning either. and she's going to stick to ner— either. and she's going to stick to ner story— either. and she's going to stick to ner story .— either. and she's going to stick to her story . but— either. and she's going to stick to her story . but i— either. and she's going to stick to her story. but i can give you a to her story. but i can give you o pretty— to her story. but i can give you o pretty good— to her story. but i can give you a pretty good guess of what it wit— a pretty good guess of what it wttt re,— a pretty good guess of what it wttt te, 5— a pretty good guess of what it wttt to s or— a pretty good guess of what it will be, 5 or 10— a pretty good guess of what it will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter es.— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter bs. how— will be, 5 or 10 minutes of utter bs. how can i know that so wette— utter bs. how can i know that so well? because— utter bs. how can i know that so well? because notwithstanding my personot— well? because notwithstanding my personot synpotny— well? because notwithstanding my personal sympathy for schofield
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, tor— personal sympathy for schofield , tor wnot— personal sympathy for schofield , tor wnot ne — personal sympathy for schofield , for what he has— personal sympathy for schofield , for what he has referred to as potenttot— , for what he has referred to as potential suicidal— , for what he has referred to as potential suicidal thoughts, ttot-s— potential suicidal thoughts, tnot-s o— potential suicidal thoughts, tnot-s o teep— potential suicidal thoughts, that's a deep concern and he must— that's a deep concern and he must get— that's a deep concern and he must get netp— that's a deep concern and he must get help and support from trtents— must get help and support from trtents ont— must get help and support from trtents ont o— must get help and support from friends and a professional. must get help and support from friends and a professional . all friends and a professional. all but friends and a professional. all tut ns— friends and a professional. all but his rushed— friends and a professional. all but his rushed decision to suttenty— but his rushed decision to suooenty to— but his rushed decision to suddenly do an interview with the suddenly do an interview with tne nes— suddenly do an interview with tne ens ont— suddenly do an interview with the bbc and the— suddenly do an interview with the bbc and the sun struck me as totot— the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation— the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation ,_ the bbc and the sun struck me as total desperation , playing the total desperation, playing the nonopnotto— total desperation, playing the homophobia card . what the hell? homophobia card. what the hell? utter— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish .— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish . if— homophobia card. what the hell? utter rubbish . if this had been utter rubbish. if this had been a utter rubbish. if this had been o note— utter rubbish. if this had been o note stor— utter rubbish. if this had been a male star who— utter rubbish. if this had been a male star who met a 15 year ott— a male star who met a 15 year oto gtrt— a male star who met a 15 year oto gtrt ont— a male star who met a 15 year old girl and was— a male star who met a 15 year old girl and was banging her toter— old girl and was banging her toter tn— old girl and was banging her toter tn ner— old girl and was banging her later in her teens, let me tell you,— later in her teens, let me tell you, tt— later in her teens, let me tell you, tt woutt— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be a— later in her teens, let me tell you, it would be a story of epic propontons.— you, it would be a story of epic propontons. tt— you, it would be a story of epic proportions. it would be worse. so proportions. it would be worse. so t— proportions. it would be worse. so t woutt— proportions. it would be worse. so i would humbly suggest that old so i would humbly suggest that oto tnt— so i would humbly suggest that oto tntt ts— so i would humbly suggest that old phil is an— so i would humbly suggest that old phil is an unreliable wttness— old phil is an unreliable witness at— old phil is an unreliable witness at best. he makes oj stnpson— witness at best. he makes oj simpson claims— witness at best. he makes oj simpson claims of innocence look postttwety— simpson claims of innocence look positively compelling, scoffs strewn.— positively compelling, scoffs shields. self—flagellating sottest— shields. self—flagellating sobfest left— shields. self—flagellating sobfest left me cold, particularly- sobfest left me cold, particularly when he denied that this particularly when he denied that tnts norntng— particularly when he denied that this morning is— particularly when he denied that this morning is a— particularly when he denied that this morning is a toxic place to wort. — this morning is a toxic place to wort. ne— this morning is a toxic place to wort. ne sott— this morning is a toxic place to wort. ne sott .— this morning is a toxic place to work. he said , it's— this morning is a toxic place to work. he said , it's lovely. we work. he said, it's lovely. we note— work. he said, it's lovely. we note o— work. he said, it's lovely. we have a meeting.— work. he said, it's lovely. we have a meeting. we have a cup of teo— have a meeting. we have a cup of teo. tt-s— have a meeting. we have a cup of teo. tt-s ott— have a meeting. we have a cup of teo. tt-s ott rosy— have a meeting. we have a cup of tea. it's all rosy in— have a meeting. we have a cup of tea. it's all rosy in the gorten— tea. it's all rosy in the gotten to— tea. it's all rosy in the garden. do me a favour for
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eeryone— garden. do me a favour for eveorye ont— garden. do me a favour for everyone and their grandma knows that everyone and their grandma knows tnot tne— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture on— everyone and their grandma knows that the culture on this morning is that the culture on this morning ts tons— that the culture on this morning is more toxic than— that the culture on this morning is more toxic than shaun ryder's ttver— is more toxic than shaun ryder's ttver .— is more toxic than shaun ryder's ttver . ant— is more toxic than shaun ryder's ttver . ant tor— is more toxic than shaun ryder's liver . and for me,— is more toxic than shaun ryder's liver. and for me, that was schofield's_ liver. and for me, that was schofield's meghan markle moment wnen— schofield's meghan markle moment wnen one— schofield's meghan markle moment when one obvious— schofield's meghan markle moment when one obvious untruth denying how when one obvious untruth denying now nosty— when one obvious untruth denying now nosty tne— when one obvious untruth denying how nasty the atmosphere on that snow— how nasty the atmosphere on that snow steorty— how nasty the atmosphere on that snow steorty ts— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is .— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is . ask— how nasty the atmosphere on that show clearly is . ask dr. ranj , show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, wntsn— show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, which causes— show clearly is. ask dr. ranj, which causes everything else he sott. — which causes everything else he sort. to— which causes everything else he said. to collapse— which causes everything else he said. to collapse like a house of said. to collapse like a house ot sorts— said. to collapse like a house ot sorts .— said. to collapse like a house of cards. how— said. to collapse like a house of cards . how convenient that of cards. how convenient that ssnottett— of cards. how convenient that schofield should— of cards. how convenient that schofield should be photographed this schofield should be photographed tnts norntng— schofield should be photographed tnts norntng tn— schofield should be photographed this morning in the company of his this morning in the company of nts tong— this morning in the company of his long suffering— this morning in the company of his long suffering and dear old . tt-s— his long suffering and dear old mum . it's almost— his long suffering and dear old mum . it's almost like that photo mum. it's almost like that photo orronget— mum. it's almost like that photo was arranged to— mum. it's almost like that photo was arranged to further imbue the was arranged to further imbue tne putts— was arranged to further imbue the public sympathy for poor tntt — the public sympathy for poor tntt wett— the public sympathy for poor phil. well, it— the public sympathy for poor phil. well, it won't work . the phil. well, it won't work. the putts— phil. well, it won't work. the puttts oret— phil. well, it won't work. the public aren't buying this and i ton-t— public aren't buying this and i ton-t tttnt— public aren't buying this and i don't think they'll buy willoughby's. i knew nothing. act tomorrow— willoughby's. i knew nothing. act tomorrow morning, whatever she act tomorrow morning, whatever sne ttt— act tomorrow morning, whatever sne oto or— act tomorrow morning, whatever she did or didn't— act tomorrow morning, whatever she did or didn't know about her sotteogues— she did or didn't know about her sotteogues .— she did or didn't know about her colleagues . close— she did or didn't know about her colleagues . close friendship colleagues. close friendship wttn— colleagues. close friendship wttn tnts— colleagues. close friendship with this young— colleagues. close friendship with this young man. anybody soutt— with this young man. anybody soutt see— with this young man. anybody could see that— with this young man. anybody could see that there was a clear power— could see that there was a clear power imbalance— could see that there was a clear power imbalance in that relationship.— power imbalance in that relationship. and i'm horrified tnot— relationship. and i'm horrified
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that schofield _ relationship. and i'm horrified that schofield reported he otuset— that schofield reported he abused that— that schofield reported he abused that power on itv property— abused that power on itv propeny os— abused that power on itv property as poor old gyles nrontretn— property as poor old gyles brandreth sipped his horlicks in the brandreth sipped his horlicks in tne tresstng— brandreth sipped his horlicks in the dressing room— brandreth sipped his horlicks in the dressing room next door. soutt— the dressing room next door. soutt nove— the dressing room next door. could have given him a heart ottost— could have given him a heart attack tomorrow.— could have given him a heart attack tomorrow. holly wtttougnty— attack tomorrow. holly willoughby will demonstrate what itv willoughby will demonstrate what ttv tosses— willoughby will demonstrate what itv bosses already— willoughby will demonstrate what itv bosses already think of the nrtttsn— itv bosses already think of the british public— itv bosses already think of the british public that you're stuptt— british public that you're stupto ont— british public that you're stupid and that they can spin vou— stupid and that they can spin you ony— stupid and that they can spin you ony ott— stupid and that they can spin you ony oto yorn— stupid and that they can spin you any old yarn and you'll buy it. you any old yarn and you'll buy t. t— you any old yarn and you'll buy t. t ton-t— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think so.— you any old yarn and you'll buy it. i don't think so. schofield is it. i don't think so. schofield ts tonoget— it. i don't think so. schofield is damaged this— it. i don't think so. schofield is damaged this morning. is tonoget. — is damaged this morning. is tonoget. ttv— is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is— is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is damaged. is damaged this morning. is damaged. itv is damaged . and i'm damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm otrott— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm otrott to— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm otrott to soy— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm afraid to say holly— damaged. itv is damaged. and i'm afraid to say holly willoughby is afraid to say holly willoughby ts tonoget— afraid to say holly willoughby ts oonoget to— afraid to say holly willoughby is damaged to how damaged? well, wett— is damaged to how damaged? well, we-tt nove— is damaged to how damaged? well, we-tt nove to— is damaged to how damaged? well, we'll have to wait— is damaged to how damaged? well, we'll have to wait and see. but tn — we'll have to wait and see. but tn sorry,— we'll have to wait and see. but tn sorry, totts— we'll have to wait and see. but i'm sorry, folks. the halo has sttppet— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has sttppet tor— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has slipped for little— i'm sorry, folks. the halo has slipped for little miss perfect. sne— slipped for little miss perfect. sne tntnts— slipped for little miss perfect. she thinks her— slipped for little miss perfect. she thinks her speech will be the she thinks her speech will be tne tost— she thinks her speech will be the last word— she thinks her speech will be the last word on— she thinks her speech will be the last word on this issue. but let the last word on this issue. but tet ne— the last word on this issue. but tet ne tett— the last word on this issue. but let me tell you,— the last word on this issue. but let me tell you, it's only begun . tour— let me tell you, it's only begun . your reaction— let me tell you, it's only begun . your reaction market gb news.com , holly willoughby would news.com, holly willoughby would orgue— news.com, holly willoughby would orgue ont— news.com, holly willoughby would orgue ont sne-s— news.com, holly willoughby would argue and she's been very clear tnot— argue and she's been very clear
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tnot sne— argue and she's been very clear that she knew— argue and she's been very clear that she knew nothing about this retottonsttp— that she knew nothing about this relationship. she— that she knew nothing about this relationship. she was absolutely srystot— relationship. she was absolutely srystot steor— relationship. she was absolutely crystal clear in— relationship. she was absolutely crystal clear in statement after stotenent— crystal clear in statement after stotenent .— crystal clear in statement after statement . she— crystal clear in statement after statement . she did not know . statement. she did not know. sne-s— statement. she did not know. sne-s very— statement. she did not know. she's very upset.— statement. she did not know. she's very upset. phillip schofield— she's very upset. phillip schofield has— she's very upset. phillip schofield has apologised because he schofield has apologised because ne sott— schofield has apologised because ne sott ne— schofield has apologised because he said he lied— schofield has apologised because he said he lied to— schofield has apologised because he said he lied to her, he lied to ttv— he said he lied to her, he lied to try .— he said he lied to her, he lied to try . so— he said he lied to her, he lied to itv . so that's— he said he lied to her, he lied to itv . so that's the other side to itv. so that's the other side of to itv. so that's the other side ot tne— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument .— to itv. so that's the other side of the argument . what's your of the argument. what's your wewe— of the argument. what's your view? margaret— of the argument. what's your view? margaret gb news .com, as i view? margaret gb news .com, as t soy,— view? margaret gb news .com, as t soy, ts— view? margaret gb news .com, as t soy, ts tne— view? margaret gb news .com, as i say, is the address— view? margaret gb news .com, as i say, is the address reacting to not— i say, is the address reacting to tnot ts— i say, is the address reacting to tnot ts ny— i say, is the address reacting to that is my top— i say, is the address reacting to that is my top pundits tontgtt— to that is my top pundits tonight, social- to that is my top pundits tonight, social worker and pottttsot— tonight, social worker and political commentator , a brand political commentator, a brand stor— political commentator, a brand new star on mark— political commentator, a brand new star on mark dolan tonight voset— new star on mark dolan tonight voset nonst— new star on mark dolan tonight yosef david, journalist and pottttsot— yosef david, journalist and political consultant emma burnett— political consultant emma burnell and— political consultant emma burnell and farmer and former tory— burnell and farmer and former tory ttt— burnell and farmer and former tory wt wett— burnell and farmer and former tory mp neil parish yosef , over tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you— tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . — tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . tnont— tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . thank you.- tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . thank you. i- tory mp neil parish yosef, over to you . “rtts" to you. thank you. i have to say that i am more than a little miffed with just how much attention in this circus has received over the last few weeks. i don't hold any bone out for phillip schofield or holly willoughby with regard to what looks like a cover up . but we looks like a cover up. but we have to ask questions of us as a society if we are prepared to talk ad nauseum about the
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downfall of a celebrity who we might say has. there's been that there's been a cover up with regard to child abuse, possibly and grooming. but but actually nationally speaking, every day, children are abused and groomed. and we don't have the same zeal or or interest to follow these stories. and it makes me wonder, are we still a serious country that we that we can follow, that we can follow ? what is a showbiz we can follow? what is a showbiz story? yes it's very serious, but i don't think any laws were broken and really, we need some national perspective on this. well, i think it's very fair tnot— well, i think it's very fair tnot yove— well, i think it's very fair that you've said that. and we wttt— that you've said that. and we wttt te— that you've said that. and we will be abundantly clear. there is zero evidence— will be abundantly clear. there is zero evidence that anything tnot— is zero evidence that anything tnot tnttttp— is zero evidence that anything that phillip schofield did was ogotnst— that phillip schofield did was ogotnst-tow.— that phillip schofield did was against-law. he- that phillip schofield did was against law. he called it against the law. he called it tut— against the law. he called it unwise but not— against the law. he called it unwise but not illegal . against the law. he called it unwise but not illegal. neil and yore— unwise but not illegal. neil and you're absolutely— unwise but not illegal. neil and you're absolutely right, yosef , you're absolutely right, yosef, tnot— you're absolutely right, yosef, tnot tnere— you're absolutely right, yosef, that there are _ you're absolutely right, yosef, that there are some serious out— that there are some serious crimes out there. but i would orgue— crimes out there. but i would orgue t— crimes out there. but i would orgue t woutt— crimes out there. but i would argue i would argue that
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ostuotty— argue i would argue that ostuotty tt— argue i would argue that actually it raises the issue of tnno— actually it raises the issue of tnno on— actually it raises the issue of emma an imbalance in power. this is a emma an imbalance in power. this ts o weottny— emma an imbalance in power. this is a wealthy older— emma an imbalance in power. this is a wealthy older guy who's on tv is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every— is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every ooy— is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every day with— is a wealthy older guy who's on tv every day with an impressionable, impressionable youngster— impressionable, impressionable youngster .— impressionable, impressionable youngster . that's— impressionable, impressionable youngster. that's why this is a ssontot— youngster. that's why this is a ssontot .— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and he's— youngster. that's why this is a scandal . and he's a national scandal. and he's a national figure.— scandal. and he's a national ttgure. ant— scandal. and he's a national figure. and that's why it's a story— figure. and that's why it's a story . — figure. and that's why it's a story . nes— figure. and that's why it's a story . ne-s o— figure. and that's why it's a story . rt; �*" g ”c: story. he's a national figure. and that's why it's a story. there is an imbalance of power and that's why it's a problem . i and that's why it's a problem. i i go back and forth on this story a lot . mostly, i wonder story a lot. mostly, i wonder just as as you have , why we're just as as you have, why we're spending so much time on it when in no crime seems to have been committed. there is a workplace scandal and it's a workplace that's in the public view . but that's in the public view. but workplace scandals happen regularly. and my worry is that instead of trying to think a lot more sensibly and a lot more nuanced about the fact that
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people's thrown together for eight hours, ten hours, 12 hours a day, often in television , are a day, often in television, are likely to fall in love. and how you manage that when those two people might be of very , very people might be of very, very different stature within that workplace . s rather than just workplace. s rather than just going very salaciously into what phillip schofield did and didn't do with a younger man and, and randomly going all lady macbeth on holly willoughby okay. i mean i think the issue is that neil pansh i think the issue is that neil parish that presenters are like politicians. they parish that presenters are like politicians . they are politicians. they are accountable - c rt. they are accountable public figures. politicians. they are— accountable public figures. they tnto— accountable public figures. they tnto or— accountable public figures. they come into our living room every toy— come into our living room every toy vto— come into our living room every toy vto tne— come into our living room every day via the television an and tney-ve— day via the television an and tney-ve got— day via the television an and tney-ve got to— day via the television an and they've got to be— day via the television an and they've got to be held to ossont— they've got to be held to account for— they've got to be held to account for their actions . t/rt;~3 account for their actions. yes i t— account for their actions. yes i t tttnt— account for their actions. yes i mean i think phillip schofield did the right thing by resign thing. i actually think that prolonging this story is just prolonging this story is just prolonging his agony. he was wrong what he did. but you've got to give the guy he's he's
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got to give the guy he's he's got to give him space now. he's got to give him space now. he's got to give him space now. he's got to get on with his life. neil by the way, neil, can you look at the camera? because we want to look at the camera? because we wont to — look at the camera? because we wont to your— f“ because we want to see your gorgeous face. sorry— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry tet— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry tet ne— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry let me tell— want to see your gorgeous face. sorry let me tell you. look orount— sorry let me tell you. look around—will. around. right. emma will show you.— around. right. emma will show you—.— around. right. emma will show you.—. ony- around. right. emma will show. you._. only because around. right. emma will show you. your . only because around. right. emma will show you. your best . only because around. right. emma will show you. your best side)nly because around. right. emma will show you. your best side . 1 because around. right. emma will show you. your best side . use that's your best side. sorry, i toottng. — that's your best side. sorry, i toottng. t— that's your best side. sorry, i was looking. i was looking at the wrong camera. sorry, mark. that's all right. we just need to understand— that's all right. we just need to understand .— that's all right. we just need to understand . the schofield is to understand. the schofield is a to understand. the schofield is o nottonot— to understand. the schofield is a national celebrity . he's done a national celebrity. he's done an a national celebrity. he's done on tntervtew— a national celebrity. he's done an interview with— a national celebrity. he's done an interview with the bbc in the sun— an interview with the bbc in the sun tn— an interview with the bbc in the sun tn wntsn— an interview with the bbc in the sun in which he's— an interview with the bbc in the sun in which he's claimed nonopnotes— sun in which he's claimed homophobes idea, which is nonsense because if it had been a nonsense because if it had been oyoung— nonsense because if it had been o young gtrt— nonsense because if it had been o young gtrt tnot— nonsense because if it had been a young girl that was the person he a young girl that was the person ne not— a young girl that was the person ne not o— a young girl that was the person he had a relationship with . it he had a relationship with. it prototty— he had a relationship with. it probably-have- he had a relationship with. it probably have been worse. probably would have been worse. and probably would have been worse. ant-more— probably would have been worse. and more outrageous. and even more outrageous. so ne-s— and even more outrageous. so ne-s wrong— and even more outrageous. so ne-s wrong to— and even more outrageous. so he's wrong to call— and even more outrageous. so he's wrong to call out homophobia- he's wrong to call out homophobia and also so he just stotns— homophobia and also so he just stotns tnot— homophobia and also so he just claims that somehow he's the vtsttn — claims that somehow he's the vtsttn tn— claims that somehow he's the vtsttn tn ott— claims that somehow he's the victim in all of— claims that somehow he's the victim in all of this. schofield is victim in all of this. schofield ts no— victim in all of this. schofield ts no vtsttn— victim in all of this. schofield is no victim. _ victim in all of this. schofield is no victim . n0,— victim in all of this. schofield is no victim. no, i- victim in all of this. schofield is no victim . \tit is no victim. no, i think i think he has got to face up to his responsibilities and whatever mistakes you make in life , you have got to face up to life, you have got to face up to it. and i think he, by sort of prolonging this and prolonging the argument on the bbc, he's
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actually doing himself no good at all because he's actually got to accept that he's resigned and accept that he's left. and actually get on with his life in another direction . well, it was another direction. well, it was wrong he and he has wrong what he did. and he has resigned. lied. yes and he's resigned. he lied. yes and he's admitted it. but to keep bringing it up again in the end, you'll find psychologically that he's doing himself no good . and he's doing himself no good. and i think, you know, all this debate and tomorrow's interview will just hype it all up again and it becomes just a great media story. but unfortunately , media story. but unfortunately, there are people involved , the there are people involved, the young man as well as philip schofield. all right. i think there is a real problem here if we keep it going. and listen, you tnow— we keep it going. and listen, you know, tn— we keep it going. and listen, you know, i'm always- c git 3 and listen, you know, i'm always straight wttt— you know, i'm always straight wttn ny— you know, i'm always straight with my viewers— you know, i'm always straight with my viewers and listeners. if i with my viewers and listeners. tt t wos— with my viewers and listeners. rt t ttoggtng— with my viewers and listeners. if i was flogging a dead horse, i'd if i was flogging a dead horse, tot-to— if i was flogging a dead horse, t-t-to-tnow- if i was flogging a dead horse, i'd-do-know whati i'd be like, do you know what torr— i'd be like, do you know what ton—ts— i'd be like, do you know what totr—ts tone- i'd be like, do you know what fair-is done and. fair game this is done and tustet— fair game this is done and dusted-but- fair game this is done and dusted but don't think dusted story. but i don't think it dusted story. but i don't think tt ts.— dusted story. but i don't think tt ts. ttrst— dusted story. but i don't think tt ts. ttrst ot— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all,— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all, i— dusted story. but i don't think it is. first of all, i have a protount— it is. first of all, i have a profound duty— it is. first of all, i have a profound duty to my viewers and ttsteners— profound duty to my viewers and ttsteners to — profound duty to my viewers and listeners to call— profound duty to my viewers and listeners to call out the nyposnsy— listeners to call out the nyposnsy ot— listeners to call out the hypocrisy of millionaire celebrities,— hypocrisy of millionaire celebrities, whoever they are . celebrities, whoever they are. ant— celebrities, whoever they are. ant neres— celebrities, whoever they are. and here's the _ celebrities, whoever they are.
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and here's the thing yourself. tore— and here's the thing yourself. you're so right— and here's the thing yourself. you're so right about real abuse tnot— you're so right about real abuse tnot noppens— you're so right about real abuse that happens out— you're so right about real abuse that happens out there in the wont,— that happens out there in the world, which— that happens out there in the world, which is— that happens out there in the world, which is far worse. but tet-s— world, which is far worse. but tet-s toot— world, which is far worse. but tet-s toot ot— world, which is far worse. but let's look at schofield wood's comments about— let's look at schofield wood's comments about the this morning set. — comments about the this morning set. were— comments about the this morning set. tnere ore— comments about the this morning set. there are multiple figures wno— set. there are multiple figures wno nove— set. there are multiple figures who have reported how toxic life is who have reported how toxic life ts ot— who have reported how toxic life ts ot ttv— who have reported how toxic life ts ot ttv ont— who have reported how toxic life is at itv and rather— who have reported how toxic life is at itv and rather than have tnetr— is at itv and rather than have their concerns— is at itv and rather than have their concerns addressed, tney-ve— their concerns addressed, they've been— their concerns addressed, they've been quite rightly moved on. they've been quite rightly moved trotuser— they've been quite rightly moved on. producer have— they've been quite rightly moved on. producer have signed non—disclosure agreements . it's non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. non—disclosure agreements. it's p. tont— non—disclosure agreements. it's or. tont tent— non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. ranj left the— non—disclosure agreements. it's dr. ranj left the show. dan wootton— dr. ranj left the show. dan wootton left— dr. ranj left the show. dan wootton left itv after ten years by tor— wootton left itv after ten years by tor tnetr— wootton left itv after ten years by far their best— wootton left itv after ten years by far their best presenter. wett— by far their best presenter. wett try-s— by far their best presenter. well, itv's loss- by far their best presenter. well, itv's loss is our gain, tut— well, itv's loss is our gain, tut tne— well, itv's loss is our gain, but the bottom _ well, itv's loss is our gain, but the bottom line is he denied tnot— but the bottom line is he denied tnot ttte— but the bottom line is he denied tnot ttte ot— but the bottom line is he denied that life at this— but the bottom line is he denied that life at this morning is tons.— that life at this morning is toxic. katie— that life at this morning is toxic. katie hind, writing in tne— toxic. katie hind, writing in tne ttot— toxic. katie hind, writing in tne ttott on— toxic. katie hind, writing in the mail on sunday newspaper totoy— the mail on sunday newspaper totoy .— the mail on sunday newspaper totoy , nos— the mail on sunday newspaper today , has particular comment today, has particular comment tron— today, has particular comment tron one— today, has particular comment from one ex—employee who said tnot— from one ex—employee who said tnot wnen— from one ex—employee who said tnot wnen sne— from one ex—employee who said that when she hears the this norntng— that when she hears the this morning theme— that when she hears the this morning theme tune, she gets a sntver— morning theme tune, she gets a sntver town— morning theme tune, she gets a shiver down her— morning theme tune, she gets a shiver down her spine and flashbacks— shiver down her spine and flashbacks .— shiver down her spine and flashbacks . ms schofield denies flashbacks. ms schofield denies all flashbacks. ms schofield denies ott ot— flashbacks. ms schofield denies ott ot tnot.— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's a— flashbacks. ms schofield denies all of that. he's a liar. i'm not— all of that. he's a liar. i'm not ters— all of that. he's a liar. i'm not here to— all of that. he's a liar. i'm not here to defend phillip schofield at all, and i think
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very clearly that there were things that happened on that show that they wouldn't be proud of looking back. but i would say that many on the centre right, sorry to bang the drum again, but many on the centre right, myself included, lament the fact that these bourgeois liberal nihilists have quite so much influence in our society. yes and by talking about this ad nauseum, actually we are cementing their position and we are legitimising the discourse. so i think we need to put this story to bed. phillip schofield has has been thoroughly disgraced . i think he deserved disgraced. i think he deserved what's happened . he's he's lost what's happened. he's he's lost all his positions. but as a society, i do think we need to be focusing on more serious crimes. well,i be focusing on more serious crimes. well, i agree with you. i crimes. well, i agree with you. t woutt— crimes. well, i agree with you. twoutt tove— crimes. well, i agree with you. i would love to— crimes. well, i agree with you. i would love to put— ti.” well, i agree with you. i would love to put this story to test. — i would love to put this story to test. out— i would love to put this story to bed. but they— i would love to put this story to bed. but they keep doing tntervtews— to bed. but they keep doing interviews with— to bed. but they keep doing interviews with the sun newspoper— interviews with the sun newspaper and the bbc . holly newspaper and the bbc. holly wtttougnty— newspaper and the bbc. holly wtttougnty ts— newspaper and the bbc. holly willoughby is going to do a stote— willoughby is going to do a stote ot— willoughby is going to do a state of the— willoughby is going to do a state of the union address tomorrow . like— state of the union address tomorrow . like abraham lincoln tomorrow. like abraham lincoln ottresset— tomorrow. like abraham lincoln addressed the— tomorrow. like abraham lincoln addressed the american people otout—
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addressed the american people otout stovery— addressed the american people about slavery. the world's gone not— about slavery. the world's gone not .— about slavery. the world's gone not . so— about slavery. the world's gone not . so onse— about slavery. the world's gone mad . so once this— about slavery. the world's gone mad . so once this story dies mad. so once this story dies outt— mad. so once this story dies out, tet— mad. so once this story dies out, tet ne— mad. so once this story dies out, let me tell— mad. so once this story dies out, let me tell you, we'll be tne— out, let me tell you, we'll be tne ttrst— out, let me tell you, we'll be tne ttrst to— out, let me tell you, we'll be the first to move— out, let me tell you, we'll be the first to move on. but it's stttt— the first to move on. but it's stttt o— the first to move on. but it's stttt o not— the first to move on. but it's still a hot topic— the first to move on. but it's still a hot topic because it tnvotves— still a hot topic because it involves us.— still a hot topic because it involves us. celebrity hypocrisy ont— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy ont t— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy ont t rust— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy and i just won't— involves us. celebrity hypocrisy and i just won't have it. what's your— and i just won't have it. what's your reosttone— and i just won't have it. what's your reaction? do— and i just won't have it. what's your reaction? do you think that notty— your reaction? do you think that holly willoughby— your reaction? do you think that holly willoughby is a convincing pson— holly willoughby is a convincing peson wnen— holly willoughby is a convincing person when she— holly willoughby is a convincing person when she says that she tnew— person when she says that she knew nothing?— person when she says that she knew nothing? is— person when she says that she knew nothing? is this story over sootet— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market gb— knew nothing? is this story over cooked market gb news dot com. wett— cooked market gb news dot com. went up— cooked market gb news dot com. went up tve— cooked market gb news dot com. next up tve got— cooked market gb news dot com. next up i've got tonight's newsmaker and it's politics tegent— newsmaker and it's politics tegeno ann— newsmaker and it's politics legend ann widdecombe. i'll be osttng— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be osttng ann— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann, will— legend ann widdecombe. i'll be asking ann, will tax cuts save tne— asking ann, will tax cuts save tne tones?— asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and _ asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and is— asking ann, will tax cuts save the tories? and is it time to srost— the tories? and is it time to srost town— the tories? and is it time to crack down on— the tories? and is it time to crack down on westminster sex pests?— crack down on westminster sex pestse atso— crack down on westminster sex pests? also, we've— crack down on westminster sex pests? also, we've been asking you— pests? also, we've been asking you wont— pests? also, we've been asking you woutt o— pests? also, we've been asking you would a labour government tontrupt— you would a labour government bankrupt britain?— you would a labour government bankrupt britain? will bring you the bankrupt britain? will bring you tne resutts— bankrupt britain? will bring you the results of— bankrupt britain? will bring you the results of that text poll, all the results of that text poll, ott ot— the results of that text poll, ott ot tnot— the results of that text poll, all of that to— the results of that text poll, all of that to come.
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to gb news radio. wow. — to gb news radio. now a— to gb news radio. now. ' c c to gb news radio. now. ' c to gb news radio.- now. a little bit of parish business to tell you, first of all, i have the privilege of co—presenting to the point tomorrow morning and wednesday morning with the incredible bev
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turner andrew pierce is having a well—deserved holiday . and so well—deserved holiday. and so i'll be in the studio from 930. can't wait for that. that's tomorrow and wednesday. and also last night we beat sky news for the entirety of the show and we beat the world class bbc news from ten till 11. why did that happen? because of you. i just want to say i've got the most amazing viewers and listeners we are building an army together. if you're enjoying the show, tell your friends, tell your family and let's change the world together. and i've got two big words to say to all of you for what we achieved last night and weekend, which is and over the weekend, which is thank plenty thank you. and there's plenty more that came from. so more where that came from. so folks , all of that is true. folks, all of that is true. a couple of emails now. do you believe, holly willoughby , believe, holly willoughby, she'll the nation she'll be addressing the nation tomorrow at ten. be tomorrow at ten. it'll be a terrible audience because, of course, and will on at course, bev and i will be on at the same time smashing itv into a cocked hat. but let's have a look at an email from jack. hi, mark. great show, as mark. another great show, as always. willoughby
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mark. another great show, as always. knew'illoughby mark. another great show, as always. knew whatjhby mark. another great show, as always. knew what was going definitely knew what was going on for years and is simply not admitting the truth as it would kill the shows and hers credibility even further than it has already. she's just trying to save her own skin. but the truth will out very soon. how about this ? i think the issue about this? i think the issue that .i don't feel is being cleared up says an ed, is why did holly willoughby want phillip schofield to leave the show? was it his brother's court case? if not, how can she deny it wasn't about phillip's unwise behaviour ? and you've pointed behaviour? and you've pointed out an excellent inconsistency in her argument. alan finally says , mark, i've got no feelings says, mark, i've got no feelings for schofield one way or the other. what i don't want to see for the sake of his children is for the sake of his children is for him to be pushed to a point where he may take his life. alan you are so right. the bottom line is i don't think that phillip schofield is a well bunny. i don't think he's a happy at all. and i think happy bunny at all. and i think it's important that he gets it's very important that he gets family and friends, support and professional as well. professional support as well. thatis
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professional support as well. that is number one. but that won't stop me calling out some of his lies and hypocrisy. but in terms of his health, i wish him well. and we certainly hope that he's able to get his life back on track. i doubt via the television studios , but we shall television studios, but we shall see. now, folks , lots to get see. now, folks, lots to get through. and we've got the papers at exactly ten £0.30 sharp, a quick one, by the way, we're trying to get hold of ann widdecombe. we've got some wi fi issues. for that. we issues. apologies for that. we love ann much. she's love ann so much. she's a fixture a sunday night. fixture on a sunday night. problems connection . problems with the connection. but will be back next week . but ann will be back next week. but ann will be back next week. but my pundits . but let me ask my pundits. according to the sunday telegraph newspaper, rishi sunak wants income tax or wants to cut income tax or national insurance by £0.02 before the general election in a bid to incentivise work and win votes. i'm delighted to say that our newsmaker, ann widdecombe, has prevailed. and welcome to the show . thank you. and we've the show. thank you. and we've only got time for one answer, but one answer is worth a million from someone else in terms of your good self, we all
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tax cuts save the tories . no, i tax cuts save the tories. no, i don't think anything will save the tories. quite honestly . and the tories. quite honestly. and you— the tories. quite honestly. and you tnow— the tories. quite honestly. and you know, tne— the tories. quite honestly. and you know, the tax— quite honestly. and you know, the tax cuts aren't going— you know, the tax cuts aren't gotng to — you know, the tax cuts aren't gotng to te — you know, the tax cuts aren't going to be immediate. very eorttest— going to be immediate. very earliest. there'll_ going to be immediate. very earliest. there'll be as next aprtt— earliest. there'll be as next aprtt. wo— earliest. there'll be as next april. no bodies— earliest. there'll be as next april. no bodies actually going to see— april. no bodies actually going to nusn— april. no bodies actually going to see much change in their tor— to see much change in their tor o— to see much change in their income for a while. and yet and yet retustng— income for a while. and yet and yet reducing taxes— income for a while. and yet and yet reducing taxes is always the first— yet reducing taxes is always the ttrst step— yet reducing taxes is always the first step towards— yet reducing taxes is always the first step towards encouraging growtn— first step towards encouraging growtn .— first step towards encouraging growtn . see— first step towards encouraging growth . see thatcher if you growth. see thatcher if you ton-t— growth. see thatcher if you don't believe _ growth. see thatcher if you don't believe me to write. ttsten— don't believe me to write. ttsten. ann — don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we— don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we will- don't believe me to write. listen, ann, we will see you in a week's time. i wish we had longer. my thanks to the formidable former politician and, of course, bestselling author and television personality widdecombe. now personality ann widdecombe. now folks, let me tell you that we've got tomorrow's papers coming some very coming up. some very hot headunes coming up. some very hot headlines coming in thick and fast. also we're going to bring you the results that text you the results of that text poll. britain afford poll. can britain afford a labour government? we'll discuss that very , very shortly with my that very, very shortly with my top pundits. the papers next. don't go anywhere
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wetssne— we're proud to be gb news. the wetsone tost— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the— we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the show. - we're proud to be gb news. the welcome back to the show. the papers in just a couple of seconds. let's get your emails now in regards to holly willoughby and her big announcement tomorrow on this morning . this from dj loveday, morning. this from dj loveday, who says , hi, mark. i don't who says, hi, mark. i don't think this story is done for me. when you look at the various charities and organisations that he's linked with, it shows a pattern of behaviour . well, pattern of behaviour. well, look, there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that anything that schofield has done has been illegal, but it's been unwise. there was a power imbalance and i think he's been dishonest, including in his most recent interview call out so—called homophobia . do me a so—called homophobia. do me a favour . okay, folks, it's time favour. okay, folks, it's time for this . and it's time for the for this. and it's time for the papers. so let's have a look. we shall start with the independent and they lead with the following. prince harry finally gets his day in court. he does
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love a good court case, doesn't he? the litigious duke of sussex will be in the witness box this week in his hacking case against mirror group newspapers , also mirror group newspapers, also abandoned by uk 44 afghans, with abandoned by uk 44 afghans, with a taliban target on their backs . next up, we've got the daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as rates keep rising. yes a record 1 in 5. first time buyers are signing up to mortgages of more than three decades as interest rates soar. but while spreading out the loans makes them more affordable in the short term, it means home owners will accrue thousands of pounds more debt on the interest of that mortgage over its lifetime . also this morning, lifetime. also this morning, meltdown. the topic of my take at ten, holly's back on sofa today, but will she bring herself to say phil's name ? herself to say phil's name? shame there's a lot of men's names we're not allowed to quote in relation to that story, aren't there? how about the
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guardian now, tory, austerity left britain hugely unprepared for covid say the unions and thousands protest over rise of the rights in poland . and also the rights in poland. and also this is good news. we need good news, don't we? on a sunday night, a pill taken once a day cuts the risk of dying from lung cancer by half, according to thrilling and unprecedented results from a decade long global study . we the i newspaper global study. we the i newspaper generation are i most fearful of losing their jobs to robots . of losing their jobs to robots. of course, ai is artificial intelligence that's shorthand for software and computers 52% of young adults aged 18 to 24, a concern that artificial intelligence systems will damage their employment prospects . this their employment prospects. this this according to a survey for the ai newspaper . let this according to a survey for the ai newspaper. let me tell you, my pundits could not be replaced by robots, especially neil parish . do you know what i
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neil parish. do you know what i tettevee— neil parish. do you know what i tettevee at— neil parish. do you know what i believe? al to _ neil parish. do you know what i believe? al to be— \tti c do you know what i believe? al to be artificial insemination— believe? al to be artificial insemination as a farmer. but we wont— insemination as a farmer. but we wont go— insemination as a farmer. but we wont go tnere. — insemination as a farmer. but we won't go there. well neil, it's a won't go there. well neil, it's otontty— won't go there. well neil, it's a family show,— won't go there. well neil, it's a family show, but obe only of some— a family show, but obe only of sottte ont— a family show, but obe only of cattle and sheep.— a family show, but obe only of cattle and sheep. i hasten to oto. — cattle and sheep. i hasten to oto. tne— cattle and sheep. i hasten to add. the problem- cattle and sheep. i hasten to add. the problem with these politicians , they're so crazy, politicians, they're so crazy, aren't they? they're so because tney-re— aren't they? they're so because tney-re not. — aren't they? they're so because they're not. they're— aren't they? they're so because they're not. they're not- they're not. they're not following the whip. they're so off following the whip. they're so ott essoge— following the whip. they're so ott essoge .— following the whip. they're so off message . exactly. - g they're so off message . exactly. off message. exactly. that's rtgnt— off message. exactly. that's rtgnt. tts— off message. exactly. that's right. it's dangerous . i don't right. it's dangerous. i don't think i ever was— right. it's dangerous. i don't think i ever was on- g 33 i don't think i ever was on message. wort— think i ever was on message. ttort tnot— think i ever was on message. mark that was— think i ever was on message. mark that was a— think i ever was on message. mark that was a trouble. i've never considered— mark that was a trouble. i've never considered your insemination to be artificial . insemination to be artificial. ant— insemination to be artificial. ant you— insemination to be artificial. ant you son— insemination to be artificial. and you can quote— insemination to be artificial. and you can quote me.- insemination to be artificial. and you can quote me. you can quote me on that. i'm certainly not answering that one. thank you. this is past the watershed. you see, the thing about- you. t you see, the thing about this snow— you see, the thing about this snow ts— you see, the thing about this snow ts you— you see, the thing about this show is you wouldn't need an tngutry— show is you wouldn't need an tngutry-sutture- inquiry about the culture on tnts— inquiry about the culture on- this—unfortunately, this show because unfortunately, you-ont— this show because unfortunately, you-ont you— this show because unfortunately, you-and you hear- this show because unfortunately, you and you hear it. you see it and you hear it. tnere-s— you see it and you hear it. there's nothing— you see it and you hear it. there's nothing to hide . can we there's nothing to hide. can we be nser— there's nothing to hide. can we be nicer backstage— there's nothing to hide. can we be nicer backstage , more gentle be nicer backstage, more gentle in be nicer backstage, more gentle tn tne— be nicer backstage, more gentle tn tne green— be nicer backstage, more gentle in the green room,— be nicer backstage, more gentle in the green room, isn't it? rns— in the green room, isn't it? we ts— in the green room, isn't it? we ts so— in the green room, isn't it? this is so how— in the green room, isn't it? this is so how about the daily store— this is so how about the daily store tet-s— this is so how about the daily star? let's have— this is so how about the daily star? let's have a— this is so how about the daily star? let's have a proper newspoper— star? let's have a proper newspaper now, if we can. james snttt— newspaper now, if we can. james snttt tne— newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers— newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers ,_ newspaper now, if we can. james chill the beers , slap on the chill the beers, slap on the sunscreen and— chill the beers, slap on the sunscreen and roast all week. were— sunscreen and roast all week. we're oven ready.— sunscreen and roast all week.
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we're oven ready. brits it's tontostts— we're oven ready. brits it's fantastic news.— we're oven ready. brits it's fantastic news. 27 degrees in nopes— fantastic news. 27 degrees in nopes ot— fantastic news. 27 degrees in nopes ot o— fantastic news. 27 degrees in hopes of a heat— fantastic news. 27 degrees in hopes of a heat wave rose today as hopes of a heat wave rose today os weotner— hopes of a heat wave rose today as weather boffins_ hopes of a heat wave rose today as weather boffins predict the nersury— as weather boffins predict the nersury wttt— as weather boffins predict the mercury will hit— as weather boffins predict the mercury will hit 27 this week. so mercury will hit 27 this week. so teep— mercury will hit 27 this week. so teep tnot— mercury will hit 27 this week. so keep that fridge full of cold . wett— so keep that fridge full of cold ones . well, i'm— so keep that fridge full of cold ones . well, i'm happy to follow ones. well, i'm happy to follow tnot— ones. well, i'm happy to follow tnot otvtse— ones. well, i'm happy to follow tnot otvtse .— ones. well, i'm happy to follow that advice . those— ones. well, i'm happy to follow that advice . those are your that advice. those are your front— that advice. those are your tront poges— that advice. those are your front pages. we've got more to come. meshugana_ front pages. we've got more to come. meshugana and abigail are busy— come. meshugana and abigail are busy pnnttng— come. meshugana and abigail are busy printing them— come. meshugana and abigail are busy printing them out as we speot— busy printing them out as we speot, tut— busy printing them out as we speak, but listen, let's have a toot,— speak, but listen, let's have a toot, snott— speak, but listen, let's have a look, shall we?— speak, but listen, let's have a look, shall we? emma, at this very— look, shall we? emma, at this very sonsenng— look, shall we? emma, at this very concerning story in the potty— very concerning story in the potty ttot— very concerning story in the daily mail record demand for 35 yeor— daily mail record demand for 35 yeor nongoges— daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as— daily mail record demand for 35 year mortgages as rates keep rtstng— year mortgages as rates keep rtstng. t— year mortgages as rates keep rtstng. t neon— year mortgages as rates keep rising. i mean, it's an absolute epttone— rising. i mean, it's an absolute epttone ot— rising. i mean, it's an absolute epitome of how— rising. i mean, it's an absolute epitome of how broken our noustng— epitome of how broken our housing market is. / housing market is. yeah, i have a housing market is. yeah, i have ozo— housing market is. yeah, i have ozs yeor— housing market is. yeah, i have a 25 year mortgage. i'm luckily enough ten years through it. it will be renewing in two years. i'm terrified . i'm absolutely i'm terrified. i'm absolutely terrified. what the rates will be. veon— terrified. what the rates will be. yeah, because— terrified. what the rates will be. yeah, because i- �*" tit: what the rates will be. yeah, because i the reason in be. yeah, because i the reason tn tnot— be. yeah, because i the reason tn tnot ten— be. yeah, because i the reason in that ten years— be. yeah, because i the reason in that ten years ago i took out etgnt— in that ten years ago i took out etgnt so— in that ten years ago i took out etgnt so etgnt— in that ten years ago i took out eight so eight years ago tnonttutty— eight so eight years ago thankfully i— eight so eight years ago thankfully i took out a ten year nongoge— thankfully i took out a ten year nongoge wos— thankfully i took out a ten year mortgage was because the rates ant— mortgage was because the rates
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were zero. and i— mortgage was because the rates were zero. ' d were zero. and i thought, well, doesn't technically get lower than that, right? doesn't technically get lower than that, right ? correct. i than that, right? correct. i mean i mean, with g�*f i mean i mean, with inflation, tts— mean i mean, with inflation, tt-s not— mean i mean, with inflation, tt-s not greot— mean i mean, with inflation, it's not great maths. it's not great at maths. mark. i tnow— it's not great at maths. mark. i tnsw. t— it's not great at maths. mark. i know. i economists, but know. i know economists, but with it almost with inflation it is almost pays you the money. yeah , you to borrow the money. yeah, but we are just so bad- you to borrow the money. yeah, but we are just so bad at- but we are just so bad at tetttng— but we are just so bad at tetttng tne— but we are just so bad at letting the next generation be a part— letting the next generation be a port ot— letting the next generation be a port ot tne— letting the next generation be a part of the home— letting the next generation be a part of the home owning culture . ant— part of the home owning culture . ant tt— part of the home owning culture . ant tt you— part of the home owning culture . and if you want— part of the home owning culture . and if you want to- part of the home owning culture . and if you want to know why the tories are not just struggling with young people , struggling with young people, all but people, right up to, you know, 45, 50. this is why there is people in their 40s still living at home or in flat shares. yeah. or just renting shares. yeah. orjust renting ont— shares. yeah. orjust renting ont nove— shares. yeah. orjust renting and have been— yeah. orjust renting and have been renting forever ont— and have been renting forever ont wttt— and have been renting forever ont wttt te— and have been renting forever and will be renting forever. ant— and will be renting forever. ant there— and will be renting forever. and there is— and will be renting forever. and there is you— and will be renting forever. and there is you know- and will be renting forever. and there is you know if you want a thatcher had this vision of a home owning democracy but that the policies that she enacted to make that happen worked for one generation and one generation only. and this is the result. everybody else is
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locked out. neil mark i'm old enough to remember the ten, 12, 15% interest rates and when i was farming i took out long term loans which were far too high in interest. so my been in the eorty— interest. so my been in the eorty sos— interest. so my been in the early 90s exactly. - “ctiiit3c so my been in the early 90s exactly. my advice xti;”ti;~3c so my been in the early 90s exactly. my advice to tnose— early 90s exactly. my advice to tnose punters— early 90s exactly. my advice to those punters out— early 90s exactly. my advice to those punters out there. now if yore— those punters out there. now if youre gotng— those punters out there. now if youre gotng to— those punters out there. now if you're going to get a mortgage , you're going to get a mortgage, tote— you're going to get a mortgage, tote tt— you're going to get a mortgage, tote tt snort— you're going to get a mortgage, take it short term— you're going to get a mortgage, take it short term for the time peng— take it short term for the time being because— take it short term for the time being because interest rates are not gotng— being because interest rates are not gotnglstoy— being because interest rates are not going stay high because not going to stay hiin because the not going to stay high because tne—ts- not going to stay high because tne—ts not- not going to stay high because. the—is not strong the world economy is not strong enougn. — the world economy is not strong enougn. so— the world economy is not strong enough. so therefore they will trtve— enough. so therefore they will trtve out— enough. so therefore they will drive out inflation and then tnterest— drive out inflation and then interest rates— drive out inflation and then interest rates will come down. so interest rates will come down. so tneretore — interest rates will come down. so therefore ,_ interest rates will come down. so therefore , don't lock so therefore, don't lock yoursett— so therefore, don't lock yourself into - so therefore, don't lock yourself into ten, 15, 20 year nongoges— yourself into ten, 15, 20 year mortgages because they will be far mortgages because they will be tor too— mortgages because they will be tor too ntgn— mortgages because they will be far too high. then— mortgages because they will be far too high. then you've got to pay—get— far too high. then you've got to poy—get out- far too high. then you've got to poy—get out ot- pay penalties to get out of tnose— pay penalties to get out of tnose ont— pay penalties to get out of those and i into - pay penalties to get out of those and into others. those and go into others. i spent— those and go into others. i spent ny— those and go into others. i spent my ttte— those and go into others. i spent my life paying too spent my life paying far too nony— spent my life paying far too nony-getttng- spent my life paying far too- many-getting interest many penalties, getting interest rotes— many penalties, getting interest rotes-wnen— many penalties, getting interest rates-when they- many penalties, getting interest rates when they came down rates down when they came down in rates down when they came down tn tne — rates down when they came down tn tne eorty— rates down when they came down in the early 2000. _ rates down when they came down in the early 2000. so, you know, we-reotty— in the early 2000. so, you know, we-reotty got— in the early 2000. so, you know, we-reotty got to— in the early 2000. so, you know, we-really got to be- in the early 2000. so, you know, we really got to be careful we have really got to be careful on tnts— we have really got to be careful on we one— we have really got to be careful on this one because otherwise if you— on this one because otherwise if you-get— on this one because otherwise if you-get o— on this one because otherwise if you-get o reotty— on this one because otherwise if you get a really good rate you can get a really good rate tong— you can get a really good rate tong-nut— you can get a really good rate tong-tut o- you can get a really good rate tong-tut o tot- you can get a really good rate long-but a lot of. long term. yes. but a lot of ten — long term. yes. but a lot of ten ore— long term. yes. but a lot of them are .too_ long term. yes. but a lot of them are too and long term. yes. but a lot of. them are .too-and you them are far too hiin and you get them are far too high and you get tostet— them are far too high and you get tostet tn— them are far too high and you get locked in for— them are far too high and you get locked in for far too long. wett— get locked in for far too long. wett tts— get locked in for far too long. wet to o— get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter— get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter of- get locked in for far too long. neil, it's a matter of choice because advanced as
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because i'm not as advanced as the two of you. i'm actually paying the two of you. i'm actually paying somebody else's mortgage because i'm renting. yeah, right. of course. right. yes, of course. if i could a year mortgage, could get a 35 year mortgage, i would. but of course you jump at it, would. but of course you jump at tt—tne— would. but of course you jump at rr,—tne porty- would. but of course you jump at itr_the porty ttoti it, wouldn't you? the party that that the housing crisis that solves the housing crisis or population or the population crisis, depending on how you want to look it, in for look at it, will be in power for the years. for that's the next ten years. for that's sure, because this is a huge issue. no no such i would like to a point on the 15% to make a point on the 15% thing, which neil is absolutely right in the practical terms , i, right in the practical terms, i, i that's exactly the reason i took out my ten year mortgage because interest rates were so low. yeah, but the, the 15% nongoge— low. yeah, but the, the 15% mortgage rates— yeah, but the, the 15% mortgage rates are often used by peopte— mortgage rates are often used by peopte to— mortgage rates are often used by peopte to note— mortgage rates are often used by people to make an— mortgage rates are often used by people to make an argument that, oh, people to make an argument that, on wett— people to make an argument that, on wet we— people to make an argument that, oh, well, we have— people to make an argument that, oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rotes— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rotes tn— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rotes tn ny— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rotes tn ny toy— oh, well, we have 15% mortgage rates in my day and therefore yore— rates in my day and therefore youre rust— rates in my day and therefore you're just being— rates in my day and therefore you're just being wet complaining about 5. but property— complaining about 5. but property was— complaining about 5. but property was so much cheaper tnen— property was so much cheaper tnen you— property was so much cheaper then you could— property was so much cheaper then you could buy a house for too— then you could buy a house for too gront— then you could buy a house for 100 grand. exactly.— then you could buy a house for 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. wove— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. we-ve not— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. we've had huge— 100 grand. exactly. 15. yeah. we've had huge inflation of the cost. and so the ratcheting effect. but, but, but it's still the principle is the same. don't lock yourself into a high
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interest rate for a long term because they will come down again. you see, i mean, historically , we never expected historically, we never expected to see 0.5, 0.25. whether they will go quite that low again. but i can see them going to 1 or 2, but joseph's right that if we can actually help people onto that ladder . can actually help people onto that ladder. but that's where i think you need the mortgage companies with first time buyers and second buyers to be able to actually give a good package . actually give a good package. joseph, you mentioned is it a poputotton— joseph, you mentioned is it a population crisis— joseph, you mentioned is it a population crisis or a housing srtsts— population crisis or a housing srtsts e— population crisis or a housing srtsts a very,— population crisis or a housing crisis ? very, very— population crisis or a housing crisis ? very, very perceptive crisis? very, very perceptive tesse— crisis? very, very perceptive tesse t— crisis? very, very perceptive because i get— crisis? very, very perceptive because i get so- crisis? very, very perceptive because i get so many emails tron— because i get so many emails tron vewes— because i get so many emails from viewers saying there's no pont— from viewers saying there's no potnt tostttng— from viewers saying there's no point tackling the housing srtsts— point tackling the housing srtsts ont— point tackling the housing crisis and building more houses if crisis and building more houses tt you— crisis and building more houses tt you nove— crisis and building more houses if you have net— crisis and building more houses if you have net migration of 600,000— if you have net migration of eooeoo o— if you have net migration of 600,000 a year,— if you have net migration of 600,000 a year, which is the nost— 600,000 a year, which is the most reset— 600,000 a year, which is the most recent figure, it's absolutely— most recent figure, it's absolutely unsustained able. ant— absolutely unsustained able. ant tt— absolutely unsustained able. ant tt tn— absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual— absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact,- absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact, it's- absolutely unsustained able. and if in actual fact, it's not just housing, it's infrastructure, it's everything that comes school places, gp surgeries , the country cannot surgeries, the country cannot keep up, not to mention issues of social harmony and the fact that we need to build our
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communities as slowly and sustainably . and i would sustainably. and i would absolutely say it's a population crisis as opposed to it's a demographic crisis, not a population crisis . if we build population crisis. if we build enough houses to home everybody who needs one, the country will eventually be tarmacked. emma obviously there is an excellently positive level of immigration to the country. there always has been. it's ttrestty— there always has been. it's directly linked— there always has been. it's directly linked to economic growtn. — directly linked to economic growtn. ttt— directly linked to economic growth. i'll give you that. plus stttts— growth. i'll give you that. plus stttts tnot— growth. i'll give you that. plus skills that country needs. skills that the country needs. nut— skills that the country needs. but eooeoo — skills that the country needs. but 600,000 year, that's not but 600,000 a year, that's not sustotnotte— but 600,000 a year, that's not sustainable. that— but 600,000 a year, that's not sustainable. that is a crisis. were— sustainable. that is a crisis. were on— sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing— sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing country. sustainable. that is a crisis. we're an ageing country . �*ftti; rttii; we're an ageing country. we are a we're an ageing country. we are ossontry— we're an ageing country. we are o country whose— we're an ageing country. we are a country whose retirement age is . 65 and a country whose retirement age is. 65 and whose population is increasing over that far more than it's increasing under that thatis than it's increasing under that that is why we are importing workers . and i don't doubt. and workers. and i don't doubt. and is that a good thing or- workers. and i don't doubt. and is that a good thing or a- is that a good thing or a bad tntnge— is that a good thing or a bad tntnge t— is that a good thing or a bad thing? i don't— is that a good thing or a bad thing? i don't care. i'm neutral on rt.— thing? i don't care. i'm neutral on it. but you should care if you struggle to get your kids into a local school or to see your side christmas . your gp this side of christmas. but that's about how we manage
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our do we not about our society. how do we not about who we do it for ? we have we who we do it for? we have we have because of medical advances, people are living a great deal longer than they used to be. they need more care and they need it for longer. to be. they need more care and they need it for longer . they they need it for longer. they will be not working for longer. we have no never faced up to that part of the way that we have faced up to that is by importing very , very cheap importing very, very cheap laboun importing very, very cheap labour. now i'm not in favour of paying labour. now i'm not in favour of paying migrants less than we pay british workers. i think if we're going . but then but then we're going. but then but then the british workers get as much as well that that can be done through policy decisions . so all through policy decisions. so all of this is policy decisions . if of this is policy decisions. if you really, genuinely obe genuinely say that you cannot cope with 600,000 new people a year , then pay care workers year, then pay care workers more, pay the people at the bottom who pick the fruit more because ultimately the demographic crunch is going to make that have to happen . and make that have to happen. and that's not a left wing decision.
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that's a market decision to be made. ithink that's a market decision to be made. i think net migration is too ntgn— made. i think net migration is too not ot— : i think net migration is too high at 600,000, but where i ostuotty— too high at 600,000, but where i ostuotty ogotn— too high at 600,000, but where i actually again, emma and i are ogreetng— actually again, emma and i are ogreetng too— actually again, emma and i are agreeing too much tonight is tnot— agreeing too much tonight is tnot t— agreeing too much tonight is tnot t neon— agreeing too much tonight is tnot t ,— agreeing too much tonight is that i mean , i— agreeing too much tonight is that i mean , i would have that i mean, i would have a constituent— that i mean, i would have a constituent come- that i mean, i would have a constituent come to me, seed me very— constituent come to me, seed me very-soy— constituent come to me, seed me very-soy eve— constituent come to me, seed me very-soy got- constituent come to me, seed me very say we've got too very elderly, say we've got too nusn — very elderly, say we've got too much immigration, then i have a tron srt— much immigration, then i have a nurse from sri lanka , a nursing nurse from sri lanka, a nursing none. — nurse from sri lanka, a nursing none. tney— nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. they want— nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. they want this- nurse from sri lanka, a nursing home. ft: home. they want this lady to come be the sister at this come and be the sister at this nursing home. so therefore, we do actually need labour in that. and when we came to picking fruit, we tried to pick pick for britain during covid, we did not get the people . so, you know, i get the people. so, you know, i think, emma, if you offered them a great deal more, you might be able to do it. but of course, you know, the market wouldn't stand. food. so stand. it cost of food. so therefore, you i think therefore, you know, i think we do some imported do need some some imported labour. emma do you think it's not— labour. emma do you think it's norot tor— labour. emma do you think it's norot tor us— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to go— labour. emma do you think it's moral for us to go to- , emma do you think it's moral for us to go to less tevetopet— moral for us to go to less developed countries and hoover up ott— developed countries and hoover up ott tnetr— developed countries and hoover up all their talent, take all tnetr— up all their talent, take all their nurses,— up all their talent, take all their nurses, take their their nurses, take all their tostors— their nurses, take all their doctors and— their nurses, take all their doctors and offer them a wage tnot— doctors and offer them a wage tnot tney— doctors and offer them a wage that they can't— doctors and offer them a wage that they can't possibly refuse? do that they can't possibly refuse? to you— that they can't possibly refuse? to you tttnt— that they can't possibly refuse? do you think that's right? jtit do you think that's right? do i tttnt— do you think that's right? do i tntnt tts— do you think that's right? do i think it's moral— do you think that's right? do i think it's moral that- do you think that's right? do i think it's moral that we have
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open?i think it's moral that we have open? i don't think i don't believe in completely open borders . i understand borders. and i understand the questions of brain drain. but honestly , you as an honestly, you as an individualist, presumably as a tory, you believe in individual rights over state rights. those individuals get make that individuals get to make that choice . and a market choice. and that's a market decision. that's not my decision , which it's a it's a market. market forces are moving those people from those poor countries to rich countries happening all over the developed world, all the way through europe , all the way through europe, all through america. and so it's very difficult— through america. and so it's very difficult to— g ' i and so it's very difficult to abandon the tree— very difficult to abandon the free market. _ very difficult to abandon the free market. citirttc free market. great. let's start with that. i don't think- free market. citirttc i don't think either with that. i don't think either of with that. i don't think either ot us— with that. i don't think either ot us ore— with that. i don't think either of us are suggesting- i don't think either of us are suggesting abandoning the of us are suggesting abandoning tne tree— of us are suggesting abandoning the free market— of us are suggesting abandoning the free market comfortable with if k the free market comfortable with tt—t o— the free market comfortable with tt—t o yea. - the free market comfortable with if_k a year, that- if it was 600 k a year, that woutt— if it was 600 k a year, that woutt te— if it was 600 k a year, that woutt be e— if it was 600 k a year, that would be 6 million over a tesote. — would be 6 million over a tesote. ts— would be 6 million over a decade. is that- would be 6 million over a decade. is that how is that going to work in terms of communities, in terms of infrastructure, housing? it would fall over which system would fall over which system would fall over because we don't import 600,000 a year. the systems that older- 000 000 the systems that older people ty00 000 the systems that older people and peopte— systems that older people and peopte wno— systems that older people and people who need— systems that older people and people who need care and people wno—
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people who need care and people wno run— people who need care and people wno torns— people who need care and people who run farms and— people who need care and people who run farms and people who are you soytng— who run farms and people who are you soytng tnot— who run farms and people who are you soytng tnot we— who run farms and people who are you saying that we should have a porter— you saying that we should have a porter tree— you saying that we should have a border free policy— you saying that we should have a border free policy so that we two to— border free policy so that we can have. no, i'm- border free policy so that we can have. no, i'm not saying tnot— can have. no, i'm not saying tnot ettner— can have. no, i'm not saying that either. _ can have. no, i'm not saying that either . �*fttrftc can have. no, i'm not saying that either . �*ftxx g: that either. what's a good number for you? i don't think that there is a number. that's not the way to look- that there is a number. that's not the way to look at- that there is a number. that's not the way to look at it.- that's not the way to look at it. the way— not the way to look at it. the woy to— not the way to look at it. the woy to toot— not the way to look at it. the woy to toot ot— not the way to look at it. the way to look at it— not the way to look at it. the way to look at it is how are we nonogtng— way to look at it is how are we nonogtng tnts— way to look at it is how are we managing this market so badly? we managing this market so badly? we so— managing this market so badly? we so potty— managing this market so badly? we so badly that— managing this market so badly? we so badly that we can only run our economy on cheap, on cheap tnponet— our economy on cheap, on cheap imported labour? _ our economy on cheap, on cheap imported labour? /tit ”ti: imported labour? you're otsstutety— imported labour? you're absolutely right. it is a crack cocaine of cheap labour and it's greedy corporations and crap government policy. but we are where we government policy. but we are wnere we tn— government policy. but we are where we are in your- g tag but we are where we are in your let's tnogtne— where we are in your let's imagine everything worked pertestty— imagine everything worked pertestty tn— imagine everything worked perfectly in the country and everyone's happy. what is a good number— everyone's happy. what is a good number tor— everyone's happy. what is a good number for net— everyone's happy. what is a good number for net migration per yeor— number for net migration per yeor. t— number for net migration per yeor. t ton-t— number for net migration per year. i don't know because i ton-t— year. i don't know because i ton-t tttnt— year. i don't know because i don't think you— year. i don't know because i don't think you answer that tesse— don't think you answer that tesse t— don't think you answer that because i don't— don't think you answer that because i don't think it's a number— because i don't think it's a number to— because i don't think it's a number to.able- because i don't think it's a number to able to answer number to be able to answer tnot.— number to be able to answer tnot-t— number to be able to answer tnot-t-suggestl that. no, i would suggest between— that. no, i would suggest between 100,000. that. no, i would suggest- between-100,000. well, between 50 and 100,000. well, i ton-t—tnot-s- between 50 and 100,000. well, i ton-t—tnot-s o- between 50 and 100,000. well, i don't that's a good don't know because that's a good intake. we want 50,000 intake. we might want 50,000 tnts— intake. we might want 50,000 tnts yeor— intake. we might want 50,000 tnts yeor ont— we might want 50,000 this year and 150,000 next year. ant— this year and 150,000 next year. ant tt— this year and 150,000 next year. ant tt you— this year and 150,000 next year. ant tt you put.— this year and 150,000 next year. and if you put. all— this year and 150,000 next year. and if you put. all right,- this year and 150,000 next year. t: all right, so and if you put. all right, so yore— and if you put. all right, so youre happy— and if you put. all right, so youre happy to_ and if you put. all right, so you're happy to stay- r: all right, so you're happy to stay at that tower— you're happy to stay at that tower-t— you're happy to stay at that lower-i don't- you're happy to stay at that lower-i don't i- you're happy to stay at that. lower-i don't i would lower level. i don't i would love to country in which we love to be a country in which we didn't need import
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didn't need to import cheap labour. the is. yet labour. the trouble is. and yet we're also open— labour. the trouble is. and yet we're also open to— , the trouble is. and yet we're also open to people who soutt— we're also open to people who soutt-noney— we're also open to people who could-money in.- we're also open to people who could money in. the could bring money in. the troutte— could bring money in. the trouble-well,- could bring money in. the trouble well, exactly. but trouble is. well, exactly. but yove— trouble is. well, exactly. but. you-ve—soutto, you've asked me for a coulda, woutto— you've asked me for a coulda, woulda-answer. - you've asked me for a coulda,. woulda-answer. .like woulda should answer. i'd like to. tore— woulda should answer. i'd like to.. you're asking- woulda should answer. i'd like to.. you're asking me- woulda should answer. t: c you're asking me in a to go. you're asking me in a pertest— to go. you're asking me in a perfect scenario,— git you're asking me in a perfect scenario, what would you to? — perfect scenario, what would you to? tnot-s— perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right.— perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right. that- perfect scenario, what would you do? that's right. that is- do? that's right. that is a coulda , woulda, shoulda coulda, woulda, shoulda question. are you going to get wett— question. are you going to get wett .— question. are you going to get ever. well , i've— question. are you going to get ever. well , i've got- question. are you going to get ever. well , i've got whatever ever. well, i've got whatever figure you put on it. you can put 50 and 100,000- figure you put on it. you can put 50 and 100,000 on- �*" g ”c: c you can put 50 and 100,000 on it. you tnow— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you know, tne— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you tnow, tne tory— put 50 and 100,000 on it. you know, the tory party has ostuotty— know, the tory party has actually tried - know, the tory party has actually tried to control immigration,- actually tried to control immigration, has failed the totour— immigration, has failed the totour tony— immigration, has failed the labour party will do the same . labour party will do the same. vou— labour party will do the same. you tnow— labour party will do the same. you know, we— labour party will do the same. you know, we have not got a system — you know, we have not got a system nere— you know, we have not got a system here where we're actually sontrotttng— system here where we're actually controlling what's— system here where we're actually controlling what's a good immigration— controlling what's a good| immigration—a controlling what's a good- immigration_a good immigration and what's a good number— immigration and what's a good nunterlweor— immigration and what's a good number. \.3.3 mm gm. immigration and what's a good number. i near 100,000 be number. near 100,000 would be good could get there. but good if we could get there. but like i do need we do like i said, we do need we do neet— like i said, we do need we do need some migrant labour. i'm sorry— need some migrant labour. i'm sorry-not— need some migrant labour. i'm sorry-not replace- need some migrant labour. i'm sorry not replace all sorry, you will not replace all ntgront— sorry, you will not replace all migrant labour. _ sorry, you will not replace all migrant labour. i“ migrant labour. the amount. when my father came over 20 to 50,000, he came over in the 1960s and thank god he did look at you right and the rate at you right rate and the rate of immigration was enough. or was slow enough that people could integrate and we could build communities. and i think it's import it's very dangerous to import generation after generation of
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immigrants in an uncontrolled way. okay. well, listen, folks, let me tell you, i've got more of tomorrow's papers to come. also my pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. plus, we will be revealing the results of our text poll. it's the mark dolan tonight people's poll . can dolan tonight people's poll. can britain afford a labour government ? we'll discuss all of government? we'll discuss all of that and reveal the results of that and reveal the results of that poll after this .
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welcome back to the show. let me tell you, i'm hosting co—hosting . let me tell you, i'm going to be the junior partner to the brilliant bev turner tomorrow for to the point 930 until until how long is that show? who knows? i think it's 2.5 hours. so it's good that i don't know isn't it? can't wait for that love. bev turner. so i'll be on your box. sick of the sight of me, let's be honest. but
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tomorrow if you're tomorrow at 930, if you're knocking tell knocking about and let me tell you, a big debate wasn't that amazing? fascinating debate about figure for about what is a good figure for net should we have net migration? should we have as much god much as we currently do? god knows, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make god help us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make lazyielp us much as we currently do? god knthe future, make lazy people in the future, make lazy people get work and stop get back to work and stop claiming benefits . miss cathy claiming benefits. miss cathy not punches . let's not pulling her punches. let's have look now the results have a look now at the results of our text poll. we were asking would labour government would a labour government bankrupt britain? the results are in. 77% say yes, 23% say no. the people have spoken. okay, i've got more front pages thanks to garner and abigail. i've got more front pages thanks to garner and abigail . and we to garner and abigail. and we start with the daily telegraph . start with the daily telegraph. lockdown benefits a drop in the bucket compared to the costs . bucket compared to the costs. this according to a new study. there's a surprise rishi sunak fewer albanians in small boats shows the crackdown on illegal migration is working. next up, we've got the times newspaper unions lambast labour over naive energy plan. gmb follows unite in criticising proposed ban on new drilling licences for north sea oil and gas. well, that's
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the topic of my big opinion, which i'm delighted to say that connon which i'm delighted to say that connor, our digital producer, has crafted into an excellent video on twitter at gb news banks turn the screw with a weekend of worse mortgage rates . but neil parish ex—tory mp says those rates will come down. so keep calm and carry on. the sun newspaper as co—star returns . phillip schofield. i won't watch holly. that's absolutely right. philip will be watching to the point with me and bev turner from 930 at 2.5 hours long. you can guarantee that tnow— long. you can guarantee that tnow rtgnt— long. you can guarantee that tnow rtgnte — long. you can guarantee that know right ? look,- ctit�*g you can guarantee that know right ? all“; you can guarantee that know right ? git ctit�*g you can guarantee that know right ? git know right? look, we've got so much to get through and let's react to all stories react to all of these stories with my pundits, social worker and political commentator yosef david, journalist and political consultant emma burnell and farmer and ex tory mp neil pansh farmer and ex tory mp neil parish , national financial parish, national financial advisor to the british people. mark dolan tonight its economics editor. the mark dolan tonight its economics editor . the reason why mark dolan tonight its economics editor. the reason why is tesse— editor. the reason why is tesouse you— tit: the reason why is because you bring good news. ttsten— because you bring good news. ttsten .— because you bring good news. ttsten . wove— because you bring good news. listen , we've got— because you bring good news. listen , we've got a— because you bring good news. listen , we've got a little- because you bring good news. listen, we've got a little bit of time just to talk about this
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story in the telegraph. if lockdown benefits a drop in the bucket compared to the costs . bucket compared to the costs. yosef there's a surprise . well, yosef there's a surprise. well, ihave yosef there's a surprise. well, i have to say that during- i have to say that during tosttown— i have to say that during tosttown .— i have to say that during lockdown , i— i have to say that during lockdown , i adhered to it and lockdown, i adhered to it and i not— lockdown, i adhered to it and i even had some— lockdown, i adhered to it and i even had some choice words for peopte— even had some choice words for peopte wno— even had some choice words for people who didn't— even had some choice words for people who didn't after the tost— people who didn't after the tost. t— people who didn't after the fact. i think— people who didn't after the fact. i think that there does neet— fact. i think that there does neet to— fact. i think that there does neet to te— fact. i think that there does need to be some- fact. i think that there does need to be some investigation as to tne— need to be some investigation as to tne sost— need to be some investigation as to the cost benefit— need to be some investigation as to the cost benefit of it. but i wttt— to the cost benefit of it. but i wttt soy— to the cost benefit of it. but i wttt soy two— to the cost benefit of it. but i will say two words, ishmael , will say two words, ishmael, abdulwahab,_ will say two words, ishmael, abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody snoutt— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody snoutt tnow— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody should know that— abdulwahab, wahhab, everybody should know that name, that name snoutt— should know that name, that name snoutt te— should know that name, that name snoutt te os— should know that name, that name should be as synonymous and as resogntsotte— should be as synonymous and as recognisable as— should be as synonymous and as recognisable as victoria climbie and recognisable as victoria climbie ont toty— recognisable as victoria climbie ont toty t. — recognisable as victoria climbie and baby p. that— recognisable as victoria climbie and baby p. that was a 13 year ott— and baby p. that was a 13 year ott toy— and baby p. that was a 13 year ott toy wno— and baby p. that was a 13 year old boy who died— and baby p. that was a 13 year old boy who died alone in a nospttot— old boy who died alone in a hospital without— old boy who died alone in a hospital without his parents. tnot— hospital without his parents. tnot ts— hospital without his parents. tnot ts tor— hospital without his parents. that is for me— hospital without his parents. that is for me what encapsulates everytntng— that is for me what encapsulates everytntng tnot— that is for me what encapsulates everything that was wrong with our response to— everything that was wrong with our response to covid completely rtgnte — our response to covid completely rtgnte tne— our response to covid completely right? the human— our response to covid completely right? the human price- our response to covid completely right? if?“ i right? the human price that we paid is truly shocking, as well as damage to the economy. and emma, unions lambast labour over naive energy plan. so this is left on left action here. this is friendly fire from the unions to keir starmer. this is over his plan to not grant new licences to north sea developers
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if he gets into power slightly bears the lie to your your big opinion that there are keir starmer is completely in the union pockets and does everything they tell him to . a everything they tell him to. a fair point. i think you're right. i mean this is you know, i'm delighted that actually i'm delighted that gmb actually agree this. there i'm delighted that gmb actually agree this . there you go. agree with this. there you go. i tttnt— agree with this. there you go. i tntnt tne— agree with this. there you go. i think the unions— agree with this. there you go. i think the unions have- agitnt; there you go. i think the unions have got this. atsotutety. — think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's— think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's got right . think the unions have got this. absolutely. it's got right. i absolutely. it's got it right. i wont— absolutely. it's got it right. i wont-t— absolutely. it's got it right. i want-i mean,- absolutely. it's got it right. i want-i mean, the- absolutely. it's got it right. i want i mean, the union want to go i mean, the union insurance policy,— want to go i mean, the union insurance policy, don't a insurance policy, don't we, of a bit insurance policy, don't we, of a tttlott— insurance policy, don't we, of a tttlott. o— insurance policy, don't we, of a tttlott. olot— insurance policy, don't we, of a bit-oil, aiof-so- bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. - bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. i- bit of oil, a bit of gas. so insurance policy. i don't disagree with . i have travelled disagree with. i have travelled massively over the last decade on nuclear power because i do do believe that there are trade offs to be made about having a baseline. now, some of the things you said in your big opinion i would massively disagree with, for example , disagree with, for example, solar power, solar is quite an outdated word because it's actually photovoltaic. it's about light power and it doesn't really matter whether the clouds are in or out. we get light. the sun's really quite a powerful thing. surely it does its job. surely more sun helps. no,
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surely more sun helps. n0, ostuotty— surely more sun helps. n0, actually not. _ surely more sun helps. n0, actually not. as— surely more sun helps. n0, actually not. as i- surely more sun helps. no, actually not. as i understand it. with. with. with. with genuine modern photovoltaic. it really doesn't matter whether it's the sunshine or. okay. all right. it's the sunshine or. okay. all rtgnt. torr— it's the sunshine or. okay. all right. fair enough.— c okay. all right. fair enough. well, look, the right. fair enough. well, look, tne potnt— right. fair enough. well, look, the point taken.— right. fair enough. well, look, the point taken. this is the snow— the point taken. this is the snow wnere— the point taken. this is the show where the— the point taken. this is the show where the presenter enjoys tetng— show where the presenter enjoys being disagreed— show where the presenter enjoys being disagreed with. �*iftti; �*iftti; being disagreed with. we do. we are being disagreed with. we do. we ore-ogotnst— being disagreed with. we do. we are against the clock. so are a bit against the clock. so could to us your headline could we get to us your headline hero today ? so who's caught your hero today? so who's caught your eye? is suella braverman and the onoztng— eye? is suella braverman and the amazing-braverman- tigti?’ is suella braverman and the amazing braverman who is amazing suella braverman who is tostttng— amazing suella braverman who is tostttng ret— amazing suella braverman who is tackling red tape— amazing suella braverman who is tackling red tape and non—crime note— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents will— tackling red tape and non—crime hate incidents will no longer be resortet— hate incidents will no longer be recorded unless— hate incidents will no longer be recorded unless they're the most severe examples. _ recorded unless they're the most severe examples. . severe examples. and this is really ridiculous . this is when really ridiculous. this is when coppers turn up at your house because you sent an unkind facebook message. yes. and she leads facebook message. yes. and she teots wttn— facebook message. yes. and she teots wttn o— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line.— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line. it— facebook message. yes. and she leads with a line. it is- i 3 yes. and she leads with a line. it is not a srtntnot— leads with a line. it is not a criminal offence— leads with a line. it is not a criminal offence to hurt sonetoty-s— criminal offence to hurt somebody's feelings. what a treotn— somebody's feelings. what a treotn ot— somebody's feelings. what a breath of fresh— somebody's feelings. what a breath of fresh air. breath of trest— breath of fresh air. breath of fresh air. how about your headune fresh air. how about your headline hero, neil molly kingsley. she was the one who son— kingsley. she was the one who sonlneotet— 3 she was the one who sort headed campaign to sort of headed the campaign to teep— sort of headed the campaign to keep—brilliant. . keep schools open. brilliant. stop— keep schools open. brilliant. stop tne— keep schools open. brilliant. stop the masks— keep schools open. brilliant. stop the masks being worn in ssnoots— stop the masks being worn in schools because— stop the masks being worn in schools because we've got a wnote— schools because we've got a whole generation really , that whole generation really, that sweet— whole generation really, that suffered -the _ whole generation really, that suffered the lockdowns in suffered from the lockdowns in ssnoots— suffered from the lockdowns in ssnoots. t— suffered from the lockdowns in schools. i mean,— suffered from the lockdowns in schools. i mean, we took the necessary medical advice at the
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tne.— necessary medical advice at the ttne-novet- necessary medical advice at the ttne-novet .- necessary medical advice at the time,-moved . and,- necessary medical advice at the time, moved . and, you time, but it all moved. and, you tnow.— time, but it all moved. and, you tnowltot— time, but it all moved. and, you know,llot.people- time, but it all moved. and, you know, lot people suffered. know, a lot of people suffered. arr.— know, a lot of people suffered. ant—t— know, a lot of people suffered. ant—t ttvet- know, a lot of people suffered. and, i lived through and, you know, i lived through an and, you know, i lived through on-ttne— and, you know, i lived through an-time really- and, you know, i lived through an time really over an agonising time really over all an agonising time really over ott-stutt— an agonising time really over all-stuff where- an agonising time really over all stuff where you were all this stuff where you were gtven— all this stuff where you were given conflicting medical advice and given conflicting medical advice ont-trtet— given conflicting medical advice ont-trtet os— given conflicting medical advice and-tried as an— given conflicting medical advice and tried as an mp to and you tried as an mp to ostuotty— and you tried as an mp to actually-the- and you tried as an mp to actually the right decision actually make the right decision . sonettnes— actually make the right decision . sometimes we— actually make the right decision . sometimes we did, sometimes we tttnt— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tttn-t .— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tttn-t . ant— . sometimes we did, sometimes we tttn-t . ant ot— . sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't . and of course, you know, didn't. and of course, you know, it-horrendous. _ didn't. and of course, you know, it-horrendous. but- didn't. and of course, you know, it horrendous. but think it was horrendous. but i think sne— it was horrendous. but i think sne-geot— it was horrendous. but i think sne-greot tot- it was horrendous. but i think she-great job in- it was horrendous. but i think she great job in actually she did a great job in actually trytng— she did a great job in actually trytnglteep— she did a great job in actually trying keep those schools trying to keep those schools open— trying to keep those schools open because _ trying to keep those schools open because it's not just about etusotton— open because it's not just about education, it's— open because it's not just about education, it's about socialisation as well. and you wont— socialisation as well. and you wont tnt— socialisation as well. and you won't find anyone _ socialisation as well. and you won't find anyone that's willing to tetent— won't find anyone that's willing to defend school— won't find anyone that's willing to defend school closures. \t0tt�* to defend school closures. now, ttsten— to defend school closures. now, ttsten. tnno— to defend school closures. now, listen, emma, what about your headune listen, emma, what about your headline hero who's caught your eye, who's in your good books? uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. britons.— uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. brilliant, brilliant— uh oh. so mine is ted lasso. brilliant, brilliant series on is it apple tv? apple tv . we've is it apple tv? apple tv. we've had the finale of the— c s?’ . we've had the finale of the finales ont— had the finale of the finales ont t— had the finale of the finales ont t srtet— had the finale of the finales and i cried through the whole tntng. — and i cried through the whole tntng. rtts— and i cried through the whole thing. this is— and i cried through the whole thing. this is a— and i cried through the whole thing. .. i: thing. this is a comedy show. could you give us a kind of one line? it's a comedy show about a goofy american who got randomly and through a very sort of twist plotline, brought in to run a premiership football team and what i love about it, as aiden,
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your wonderful sports commentator , aidan magee, i know commentator, aidan magee, i know absolutely nothing about football. he has told me to use tnts— football. he has told me to use we ptrose— football. he has told me to use this phrase, that's— football. he has told me to use this phrase, that's the- he has told me to use this phrase, that's the magic of the this phrase, that's the magic of tne ta— this phrase, that's the magic of tne ta sup— this phrase, that's the magic of tne ta sup .— this phrase, that's the magic of tne ta sup . tut— this phrase, that's the magic of the fa cup , but it's a great the fa cup, but it's a great toottott— the fa cup, but it's a great football show— the fa cup, but it's a great football show that does just the toottott— football show that does just the toottott rust— football show that does just the football just well— football show that does just the football just well enough . but football just well enough. but wnot— football just well enough. but wnot tts— football just well enough. but what it's really— football just well enough. but what it's really about is human nunon— what it's really about is human nunon tetngs— what it's really about is human nunon tetngs .— what it's really about is human human beings . and ted lasso is human beings. and ted lasso is a ttste— human beings. and ted lasso is a ttote ont— human beings. and ted lasso is a ttote ont nes— human beings. and ted lasso is a bloke and he's a— human beings. and ted lasso is a bloke and he's a proper american stote— bloke and he's a proper american ttote ont— bloke and he's a proper american ttote ont ne— bloke and he's a proper american bloke and he doesn't mess around wttn— bloke and he doesn't mess around wttn tetng— bloke and he doesn't mess around wttn tetng o— bloke and he doesn't mess around with being a bloke,— bloke and he doesn't mess around with being a bloke, but he is a bit with being a bloke, but he is a ttt ttte— with being a bloke, but he is a bit like neil— with being a bloke, but he is a bit like neil parish, but like wett— bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. _ bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. but- bit like neil parish, but like neil parish. but even lovelier. how was that possible , if you how was that possible, if you can? was it one of those lockdown shows at the start or as i understand it, although i didn't watch it during lockdown, right? no, because well, look, i tttnt— right? no, because well, look, i tntnt tts— right? no, because well, look, i tntnt tt-s o— right? no, because well, look, i think it's a brilliant— . 3x7 no, because well, look, i think it's a brilliant show. very— think it's a brilliant show. very wet— think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. - think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. so - think it's a brilliant show. very well crafted. so well done to . so what about to ted lasso. so what about where start with our where should we start with our back? yossef, who's back? page zero. yossef, who's who's in your bad books tonight? so it has to be roger so for me, it has to be roger woters— so for me, it has to be roger woters tor— so for me, it has to be roger waters for donning a outfit. waters for his donning a outfit. snostng— waters for his donning a outfit. snosttng esoue— waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit—
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waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit using- waters for his donning a outfit. shocking esque outfit using the memory of anne frank deeply, deeply offensive and also plagiarising prince harry's wardrobe. so well put . but it's wardrobe. so well put. but it's he's compared himself to jeremy corbyn and i have to say that there are a couple of things that they have in common. neither of them have very many good things to say about our country, and them have country, and both of them have a lot empathy for some lot of empathy for some of the most odious enemies that our country appalling country has a truly appalling few seconds, neil, for back few seconds, neil, for your back page newman, who page zero. ben newman, who annot— page zero. ben newman, who antnot—wnol page zero. ben newman, who. animal—who have animal rising activists who have snorges— animal rising activists who have snorges on— animal rising activists who have snorges on to— animal rising activists who have charges on to the— animal rising activists who have charges on to the court x—men terty— charges on to the court x—men terty not— charges on to the court x—men terty not onty— charges on to the court x—men derby not only putting himself at derby not only putting himself ot rtst— derby not only putting himself ot rtst tnot— derby not only putting himself at risk that the _ derby not only putting himself at risk that the security guards ont— at risk that the security guards ont ot— at risk that the security guards and of course— at risk that the security guards and of course if— at risk that the security guards and of course if he actually ttterotty— and of course if he actually ttterotty got— and of course if he actually literally got out— and of course if he actually literally got out in front of tne— literally got out in front of tne norse— literally got out in front of the horses there could have been norse— the horses there could have been nose ont— the horses there could have been horses and riders— the horses there could have been horses and riders killed as wett— horses and riders killed as well.-goodness- horses and riders killed as well. goodness sake, you well. so for goodness sake, you tnow.— well. so for goodness sake, you tnow—goes- know, horse riding that goes rtgnt— know, horse riding that goes rtgnt tne— know, horse riding that goes rtgnt tne woy— know, horse riding that goes right the way through, not just zoro— right the way through, not just zoro ateeno— right the way through, not just zara aleena right the way tnrougn. — zara aleena right the way through. let— zara aleena right the way through. let me- zara aleena right the way through. let me tell you that. emma's back. page zero. liz truss for pushing for- truss for pushing for inheritance- truss for pushing for inheritance cuts for the inheritance tax cuts for the rtsnest— inheritance tax cuts for the rtsnest avo— inheritance tax cuts for the richest 4% while the rest of us struggte. — richest 4% while the rest of us struggle. thank— richest 4% while the rest of us struggle. thank my struggle. thank you to my punttts— struggle. thank you to my pundits. tomorrow struggle. thank you to my- pundits.-tomorrow at struggle. thank you to my- pundsee-tomorrow at struggle. thank you to my pundsee then:omorrow at
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struggle. thank you to my pundsee then . iorrow at struggle. thank you to my pundsee then . w at struggle. thank you to my- pundsee-then . i'm jacob 930. see you then. i'm jacob rees—mogg, the member of parliament for north east somerset and a former government minister. for years i have walked the corridors of power in both the city of both westminster and the city of london. we need to the london. we need to have the arguments discussions arguments, the discussions on how it better crop how we make it better crop failures, famine, war, suffering on a scale completely unimaginable. we are putting the cart before the horse as charles the first said at the scaffold, he was the true defender of liberty. yeah, i've completely terottet— liberty. yeah, i've completely derailed the _ c yeah, i've completely derailed the conversation. .. c yeah, i've completely derr: conversation. .. c yeah, i've completely derri~titit’“t:r3tg ctittnversation. .. liberty. yeah, i've completely derrmonday to thursdayi. join liberty. yeah, i've completely derrmonday to thursday at join liberty. yeah, i've completely derrmonday to thursday at 8iin liberty. yeah, i've completely derrmonday to thursday at 8 pm. me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on gb news, britain's news.
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