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soon it is tuesday , the 6th of june. it is tuesday, the 6th of june. this is to the point with bev turner and tom harwood today and harry is in court for the first time in over 100 years. a senior member of time in over 100 years. a senior embe of me— time in over 100 years. a senior member of the royal— c " �*00 $33”; a senior member of the royal family gives emeemee — member of the royal family gives evidence. we'll— member of the royal family gives evidence. we'll bring you the deeme— evidence. we'll bring you the details throughout the programme.- details throughout the programme. part of his details throughout the- programme.-part of his case programme. it's part of his case meme— programme. it's part of his case egemee mere— programme. it's part of his case against mirror newspapers over meme— against mirror newspapers over phone hacking— against mirror newspapers over phone memmg . — against mirror newspapers over phone hacking . c; 92» g against mirror newspapers over phone hacking . mi; gmi» mg against mirror newspapers over phone hacking . gmi» g phone hacking. he's going to be cross—examined by a top barrister to face barrister is likely to face detailed questioning about his private life . how will he do.7 private life. how will he do? and the schofield saga reaches meemmmemer— and the schofield saga reaches westminster ._ and the schofield saga reaches westminster . an— and the schofield saga reaches westminster . an itv boss faces westminster. an itv boss faces queemem—
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westminster. an itv boss faces questions from _ westminster. an itv boss faces questions from mps all to come eme— questions from mps all to come eme me— questions from mps all to come mm mm pome— questions from mps all to come mm mm mm .— questions from mps all to come onto the point . _ questions from mps all to come onto the point . let- questions from mps all to come onto the point . i; questions from mps all to come onto the point . ” onto the point. let us know your thoughts on everything we're discussing today. email us gb views at gb news .com. but first of all, here is your morning's news with rory smith . thank you news with rory smith. thank you very much, news with rory smith. thank you very much: eev. — news with rory smith. thank you very much, bev. the— news with rory smith. thank you very much, bev. the duke- liq thank you very much, bev. the duke of sueee— very much, bev. the duke of sueee m— very much, bev. the duke of sussex is expected at the high ceme— sussex is expected at the high comm momm— sussex is expected at the high court shortly to— sussex is expected at the high court shortly to give evidence egemem— court shortly to give evidence egemem me— court shortly to give evidence against the publisher of the demy— against the publisher of the many mime»— against the publisher of the daily mirror .— against the publisher of the daily mirror. prince harry meme— daily mirror. prince harry claims around- daily mirror. prince harry claims around 140 published ememee— claims around 140 published articles contained information mem— articles contained information memwee— articles contained information that was gathered using unlawful memeee— that was gathered using unlawful memeee ewe— that was gathered using unlawful methods like phone hacking and deception— methods like phone hacking and deception .— methods like phone hacking and deception . mirror— methods like phone hacking and deception . mirror group deception. mirror group newspapers— deception. mirror group newspapers is content fighting the newspapers is content fighting me meme— newspapers is content fighting the claims scale— newspapers is content fighting the claims scale as itv representatives are expected to be grilled— representatives are expected to be grilled m— representatives are expected to be grilled in parliament later me— be grilled in parliament later over the broadcaster's handling of mumb— over the broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield fields mem — of phillip schofield fields affair. magnus brook from the memegemem— affair. magnus brook from the management team is attending beebemem-e— management team is attending parliament's culture, media and mom— parliament's culture, media and sport committee,— parliament's culture, media and sport committee, but it's
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expected— sport committee, but it's expected the _ sport committee, but it's expected the meeting will be dominated— expected the meeting will be bemmmeb by— expected the meeting will be dominated by the scandal. eweebem— dominated by the scandal. questions have— dominated by the scandal. questions have been raised over bew— questions have been raised over bew mweb— questions have been raised over how much bosses— questions have been raised over how much bosses at the channel mew— how much bosses at the channel mew abom— how much bosses at the channel knew about the _ how much bosses at the channel knew about the affair . schofield knew about the affair. schofield ebb— knew about the affair. schofield ebb wv— knew about the affair. schofield qwbb wv emer— knew about the affair. schofield quit itv after admitting his involvement— quit itv after admitting his involvement with a younger male eebbeeewe— involvement with a younger male eebbeegwe em— involvement with a younger male colleague on this— involvement with a younger male colleague on this morning . the colleague on this morning. the ebewwemem— colleague on this morning. the chairwoman of— colleague on this morning. the chairwoman of the covid 19 mqwbw— chairwoman of the covid 19 mqwbw be— chairwoman of the covid 19 mqwbw be eeb— chairwoman of the covid 19 inquiry is set to— chairwoman of the covid 19 inquiry is set to respond for me— inquiry is set to respond for me mem— inquiry is set to respond for the first time— inquiry is set to respond for the first time to— inquiry is set to respond for the first time to a high court ebebbemee— the first time to a high court challenge over— the first time to a high court challenge over her request for bowe— challenge over her request for boris johnson's— challenge over her request for boris johnson's whatsapp messages. baroness heather webbew— messages. baroness heather hallett will— messages. baroness heather hallett will hold a preliminary mqwbw— hallett will hold a preliminary mqwbw hearing— hallett will hold a preliminary inquiry hearing later to address mmbebere— inquiry hearing later to address ministers decision— inquiry hearing later to address ministers decision to bring beware— ministers decision to bring forward a— ministers decision to bring forward a judicial review . it's forward a judicial review. it's emer— forward a judicial review. it's after me— forward a judicial review. it's after the cabinet— forward a judicial review. it's after the cabinet office failed to after the cabinet office failed be meet— after the cabinet office failed be meeb me — after the cabinet office failed to meet the deadline for bmewbme— to meet the deadline for providing the— to meet the deadline for providing the messages and mebeeb— providing the messages and instead opted— providing the messages and instead opted to challenge the reeweeb— instead opted to challenge the request through— instead opted to challenge the request through the court system . berebgm— request through the court system . foreign secretary— request through the court system . foreign secretary james cbewerw— . foreign secretary james cleverly says— . foreign secretary james cleverly says the best thing bweebe— cleverly says the best thing russia could— cleverly says the best thing russia could do— cleverly says the best thing russia could do now is withdraw all russia could do now is withdraw ebb mew— russia could do now is withdraw all their troops— russia could do now is withdraw all their troops immediately bbewmg— all their troops immediately following the— all their troops immediately following the destruction of a dam — following the destruction of a dam m— following the destruction of a dam in ukraine.— following the destruction of a dam in ukraine. in the explosion of me— dam in ukraine. in the explosion of me emer— dam in ukraine. in the explosion of the qatar dam,— dam in ukraine. in the explosion of the qatar dam, which is 30m beb—
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of the qatar dam, which is 30m mu emb— of the qatar dam, which is 30m mm me we— of the qatar dam, which is 30m tall and two miles— of the qatar dam, which is 30m tall and two miles long, caused beebbe— tall and two miles long, caused beebbe living— tall and two miles long, caused beebbe mm m— tall and two miles long, caused people living in low lying parts of me— people living in low lying parts of me ew— people living in low lying parts of me my bf— people living in low lying parts of the city of kherson to evacuate . tate. ukraine and evacuate. tate. ukraine and bweebe— evacuate. tate. ukraine and bweebe me— evacuate. tate. ukraine and russia are accusing each other of eeweme— russia are accusing each other of causing widespread flooding in of causing widespread flooding be me— of causing widespread flooding be me remem— of causing widespread flooding be me megbem .— of causing widespread flooding in the region . it's— of causing widespread flooding in the region . it's reported in the region. it's reported 22,000— in the region. it's reported 22,000 people— in the region. it's reported 22,000 people and 41 settlements are 22,000 people and 41 settlements eb— 22,000 people and 41 settlements at web— 22,000 people and 41 settlements at web eb— 22,000 people and 41 settlements are at risk of flooding . you're are at risk of flooding. you're up be— are at risk of flooding. you're we be babe:— are at risk of flooding. you're up to date, but— are at risk of flooding. you're up to date, but you can get more on up to date, but you can get more em ebb— up to date, but you can get more em ebb eb— up to date, but you can get more on all of those— up to date, but you can get more on all of those stories by webbme— on all of those stories by visiting our— on all of those stories by visiting our website at gb news .com. now, though, back to bev eme— .com. now, though, back to bev eme .— tom good morning. thank you for joining to story. joining to us our top story. prince will give evidence prince harry will give evidence in home hacking trial in his home phone hacking trial against group newspapers against mirror group newspapers later morning. it's later this morning. it's a genuine trial of- later this morning. it's a genuine trial of the- g it's a genuine trial of the century. later this morning. it's a-
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genuine trial of the century. no member— genuine trial of the century. no embe eb— genuine trial of the century. no member of the— genuine trial of the century. no member of the royal family has beebbbbee— member of the royal family has testified-court— member of the royal family has testified-court for— member of the royal family has testified court for over 100 testified in court for over 100 wee — testified in court for over 100 wee bere— testified in court for over 100 years. duke of— testified in court for over 100 years. j years. duke of sussex was accused of wasting the court's time after he skipped out on the first day of the trial. yesterday, after choosing to stay california for stay in california for apparently daughter's apparently his daughter's birthday. now the mirror group has-accusations- birthday. now the mirror group has-accusations of- cc» now the mirror group has accusations of phone has denied accusations of phone membe— has denied accusations of phone beebme beb— has denied accusations of phone beewme, beb be— has denied accusations of phone hacking, but is harry's beebbmemw— hacking, but is harry's testimony set to change this game? — testimony set to change this game? me— testimony set to change this game? d c game? the government says it's willing to enter into mediation with the covid inquiry. the battle over boris johnson and other ministers. whatsapps continued as tory mps have been criticising the decision to challenge their inquiry. chair baroness hallett so fg ” »: 3 chair baroness hallett so joining us be— baroness hallett so joining us now is our political reporter, ebbwe— now is our political reporter, olivia utley. _ now is our political reporter, olivia utley. c: g olivia utley. good morning, olivia utley. good morning, olivia . lots through olivia. lots to get through there. two big stories of the day. first of all, let's start with harry's court case before we about the covid inquiry. we talk about the covid inquiry. what to happen this what do we expect to happen this morning? us schedule of morning? give us the schedule of events. yeah, morning? give us the schedule of events . yeah, the court is events. yeah, the court is eberbme— events. yeah, the court is starting today— yeah, the court is starting today and we are exeeebee— starting today and we are erbeebee .— starting today and we are expected . there are big crowds expected. there are big crowds ebreeew— expected. there are big crowds ebreeew em— expected. there are big crowds already on the— expected. there are big crowds already on the streets . harry already on the streets. harry web-b— already on the streets. harry wem-b be— already on the streets. harry won't be speaking today .
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already on the streets. harry won't be speaking today. i don't mmb— won't be speaking today. i don't bbmb bb-e— won't be speaking today. i don't bbmb we going— won't be speaking today. i don't think it's going to— won't be speaking today. i don't think it's going to be later in me— think it's going to be later in bbe week:— think it's going to be later in the week, but— think it's going to be later in the week, but there's huge exebbememb— the week, but there's huge excitement building up around it . me— excitement building up around it . rbe rrbrrer— excitement building up around it . the mirror group— excitement building up around it . the mirror group has been bebeme— . the mirror group has been bebeme ebb— . the mirror group has been bebemg eeb .— . the mirror group has been holding out . against settling, holding out. against settling, wbbbe— holding out. against settling, wbbbe wewe— holding out. against settling, while news uk— holding out. against settling, while news uk has settled, so it's while news uk has settled, so be eeb— while news uk has settled, so be eeb be— while news uk has settled, so be eeb be be— while news uk has settled, so it's set to be quite dramatic . it's set to be quite dramatic. beb— it's set to be quite dramatic. bee em— it's set to be quite dramatic. bee em ebe— it's set to be quite dramatic. but on the boris— it's set to be quite dramatic. but on the boris whatsapp gates issue, this of course is a story that has been rolling on for quite some time . um, the former quite some time. um, the former prime minister seems to be much more open about wanting the inquiry or allowing the inquiry to go through his communicate opfions to go through his communicate options than the current prime minister is this a is this a real dividing line within the conservative party ? well, conservative party? well, absolutely, boris- 313g?” well, absolutely, boris johnson really bbrew— absolutely, boris johnson really bbrew e— absolutely, boris johnson really threw a grenade— absolutely, boris johnson really threw a grenade under rishi semeb— threw a grenade under rishi semeb beeb— threw a grenade under rishi sunak last week by saying that he sunak last week by saying that be ee— sunak last week by saying that he was prepared— sunak last week by saying that he was prepared to hand over his wbebeebbe— he was prepared to hand over his whatsapps directly— he was prepared to hand over his whatsapps directly to the covid bmeebrw— whatsapps directly to the covid bmewbrw .— whatsapps directly to the covid bmewbrw . bw— whatsapps directly to the covid inquiry. by normal whatsapps directly to the covid inquiry . by normal practise, it inquiry. by normal practise, it webbe— inquiry. by normal practise, it weere be— inquiry. by normal practise, it would be the— inquiry. by normal practise, it would be the cabinet office who was responsible.— would be the cabinet office who was responsible. olivia i'm just going— was responsible. olivia i'm just going be— was responsible. olivia i'm just going be beve— was responsible. olivia i'm just going be bewe be— was responsible. olivia i'm just going to have to interrupt you bbere. — going to have to interrupt you bbere. we— going to have to interrupt you bbere. we be— going to have to interrupt you
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there. we do have- going to have to interrupt you there. »:mi:» going to have to interrupt you there. »:»i» i there. we do have now live pictures of prince harry arriving at at court. he has flown in this morning from california. and there he is very swiftly walking through into court here in london. and we can see an entourage behind him and indeed, what looked like a little box of evidence, i don't know if that's going to be consequential later on, but a huge amount of press, obviously, the world's press down there this harry out this morning, harry leaped out of range rover, as he of his black range rover, as he does. you're listening on the does. if you're listening on the reme— does. if you're listening on the reebe-wee— does. if you're listening on the radio-was straight- does. if you're listening on the radio-was straight in- : if you're listening on the radio was straight in the radio and was straight in the beer:— radio and was straight in the beer-wru— radio and was straight in the door,.will have- radio and was straight in the door, will have to we door, we will have to we ebwewebw— door, we will have to we obviously we _ door, we will have to we obviously we won't have footage mebee— obviously we won't have footage mebee bbe — obviously we won't have footage inside the court.— obviously we won't have footage inside the court. of— obviously we won't have footage inside the court. of course, we do inside the court. of course, we be meb— inside the court. of course, we do not televise— inside the court. of course, we do not televise our— inside the court. of course, we do not televise our court cases in do not televise our court cases be bbre— do not televise our court cases be bbbe eewmbrw— do not televise our court cases in this country, but— do not televise our court cases in this country, but there will be reberbere— in this country, but there will be reporters in— in this country, but there will be reporters in there . there be reporters in there. there wru— be reporters in there. there wbbb be— be reporters in there. there will be information coming out as will be information coming out ee-memme— will be information coming out ee-memme-em. - will be information coming out as morning on. and we as the morning goes on. and we wru— as the morning goes on. and we wbbblbrmeme— as the morning goes on. and we will-bringing it— as the morning goes on. and we will bringing it bringing you will be bringing it bringing you that will be bringing it bringing you bbeb-beer— will be bringing it bringing you that-hear it. _ will be bringing it bringing you that-hear it. but- will be bringing it bringing you that hear it. that as we hear it. but for the moment, let's get back to boris johnson's whatsapp and indeed rishi whatsapp. olivia, rishi sunak whatsapp. olivia, apologies interrupting you apologies for interrupting you there. this is this is indeed a great point of consternation in.
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absolutely. so rishi sunak was rememb— absolutely. so rishi sunak was rebwebme be— absolutely. so rishi sunak was refusing to hand— absolutely. so rishi sunak was refusing to hand it. well, the cebmeb— refusing to hand it. well, the cabinet office— refusing to hand it. well, the cabinet office on— refusing to hand it. well, the cabinet office on behalf of the rrbme— cabinet office on behalf of the prime minister— cabinet office on behalf of the prime minister was refusing to meme— prime minister was refusing to bend ee— prime minister was refusing to hand over boris— prime minister was refusing to hand over boris johnson's wbebeebbe— hand over boris johnson's wbebeebbe m— hand over boris johnson's whatsapps in their unredacted berm— whatsapps in their unredacted berm :— whatsapps in their unredacted form , apparently because they form, apparently because they eber-b— form, apparently because they ebem-b bbbe— form, apparently because they didn't like the— form, apparently because they didn't like the principle of heme— didn't like the principle of bewme be— didn't like the principle of having to hand over all sorts of meberbeb— having to hand over all sorts of material that— having to hand over all sorts of material that it— having to hand over all sorts of material that it deemed irrelevant— material that it deemed irrelevant to _ material that it deemed irrelevant to the covid inquiry. now:— irrelevant to the covid inquiry. wew: rebe— irrelevant to the covid inquiry. now, let's-forget- irrelevant to the covid inquiry. now, let's forget this isn't now, let's not forget this isn't bbe— now, let's not forget this isn't bbe embw— now, let's not forget this isn't the only evidence— now, let's not forget this isn't the only evidence that the covid bmewbrw—wemb- the only evidence that the covid bmeebrw—wemb be- the only evidence that the covid inquiry want to see. inquiry is going to want to see. were— inquiry is going to want to see. were-bb— inquiry is going to want to see. we-re-bb be- inquiry is going to want to see. we-re-bb be 90- inquiry is going to want to see. we're-it to go on- inquiry is going to want to see. we're it to go on for we're expecting it to go on for a we're expecting it to go on for ebew— we're expecting it to go on for ebew weere— we're expecting it to go on for a few years and— we're expecting it to go on for a few years and of— we're expecting it to go on for a few years and of course many eewemmemb— a few years and of course many government ministers going government ministers are going to government ministers are going be—beme- government ministers are going be—beme overl to be expected to hand over bbebr— to be expected to hand over their whatsapps.— to be expected to hand over their whatsapps. so the point their whatsapps. so the point bbe cebmeb— their whatsapps. so the point the cabinet office wants make their whatsapps. so the point th that)inet office wants make their whatsapps. so the point th that wet office wants make their whatsapps. so the point ththat we cannot wants make their whatsapps. so the point th that we cannot wa a s make is that we cannot set a breeeeemb— is that we cannot set a precedent for- is that we cannot set a precedent for all of precedent for all sorts of unam's vigorously irrelevant member:— unam's vigorously irrelevant meberbeb ee— unam's vigorously irrelevant material, as they call it, to be bemeee— material, as they call it, to be bemeee ewre— material, as they call it, to be handed over. and— material, as they call it, to be handed over. and the government has handed over. and the government bee beer— handed over. and the government has been prepared— handed over. and the government has been prepared to take this to has been prepared to take this be-rewew— has been prepared to take this to - review. - plenty j to judicial review. now, plenty of to judicial review. now, plenty eb emmemb— to judicial review. now, plenty of eminent lawyers have said meb— of eminent lawyers have said bbeb bbe— of eminent lawyers have said that the government has case that the government has no case at that the government has no case eb beebebeb— that the government has no case at judicial-the- at judicial review. the government- at judicial review. the government essentially up government essentially agreed up memb— government essentially agreed up bremb bbe— government essentially agreed up front the terms— government essentially agreed up front the terms of— government essentially agreed up front the terms of the covid bmeebrw— front the terms of the covid bmewbrw :— front the terms of the covid bmewbrw , eme— front the terms of the covid inquiry , and those terms gave inquiry, and those terms gave baroness hallett— inquiry, and those terms gave baroness hallett baroness webbebb— baroness hallett baroness webbebb e— baroness hallett baroness hallett a very— baroness hallett baroness hallett a very broad remit. she is essentially— hallett a very broad remit. she
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is essentially allowed to see wbebewer— is essentially allowed to see whatever she _ is essentially allowed to see whatever she likes under those berme— whatever she likes under those berme beb— whatever she likes under those terms. but the _ whatever she likes under those terms. but the cabinet office be— terms. but the cabinet office was to prepared _ terms. but the cabinet office was to prepared take it to member— was to prepared take it to judicial review— was to prepared take it to judicial review anyway. jeremy was to prepared take it to judicirtheeview anyway. jeremy was to prepared take it to judicirthe cabinet yway. jeremy was to prepared take it to judicirthe cabinet office eremy quin, the cabinet office mmber:— quin, the cabinet office minister, has- quin, the cabinet office minister, has now said that that member— minister, has now said that that judicial review— minister, has now said that that judicial review is— minister, has now said that that judicial review is going to be erbeebbee. — judicial review is going to be erbeebbee. rerw— judicial review is going to be expedited. tory mps getting judicial review is going to be e)bitdited. tory mps getting judicial review is going to be e)bit heti. tory mps getting judicial review is going to be e)bit het upory mps getting judicial review is going to be e)bit het up about’s getting judicial review is going to be e)bit het up about the getting judicial review is going to be e)bit het up about the idea:ting judicial review is going to be e)bit het up about the idea they a bit het up about the idea they eer-b— a bit het up about the idea they eem-b bbbe— a bit het up about the idea they don't like the— a bit het up about the idea they don't like the fact— a bit het up about the idea they don't like the fact that this is all don't like the fact that this is ebb beebbme— don't like the fact that this is ebb beebbme e— don't like the fact that this is all looking a bit— don't like the fact that this is all looking a bit like a cover up-— all looking a bit like a cover be. beremw— all looking a bit like a cover be. beremw ewm— all looking a bit like a cover up. jeremy quin has tried to bbeeebe— up. jeremy quin has tried to bbeeebe -eewme- up. jeremy quin has tried to placate saying that placate them, saying that the meme— placate them, saying that the judicial review— placate them, saying that the judicial review hearing will now be-bbe— judicial review hearing will now be-bbe eme— judicial review hearing will now be-bbe eme eb- judicial review hearing will now be the end of june 30th be heard at the end of june 30th of be heard at the end of june 30th eb-be-e— be heard at the end of june 30th eb-be-e ebee— be heard at the end of june 30th of-he's also said- be heard at the end of june 30th of he's also said that of june. and he's also said that the government— of june. and he's also said that the government prepared the government might be prepared to the government might be prepared be meebebe— the government might be prepared to mediate that— the government might be prepared to mediate that-the- the government might be prepared to mediate that the course the government might be prepared to june.ate that the course the government might be prepared to june. and �*iat the course the government might be prepared to june. and they the course the government might be prepared to june. and they thoping'se of june. and they are hoping bbeb— of june. and they are hoping bbeb-eme- of june. and they are hoping bbeb-emb eb- of june. and they are hoping that-end up in- of june. and they are hoping. that-end up in court. that it doesn't end up in court. so that it doesn't end up in court. se bb— that it doesn't end up in court. se bb mbebb— that it doesn't end up in court. se bb mbebb be— that it doesn't end up in court. so it might be that this is the beginning— so it might be that this is the beginning eb— so it might be that this is the beginning er e— so it might be that this is the beginning of a climbdown of course,-judicial- beginning of a climbdown of course, judicial review over course, the judicial review over wbebber— course, the judicial review over wbebber er— course, the judicial review over wbebber er meb— course, the judicial review over whether or not hand over whether or not to hand over berbe— whether or not to hand over boris -whatsappl boris johnson's whatsapp messages now messages is a bit irrelevant now bbeb—bee- messages is a bit irrelevant now that—has handed. that boris johnson has handed bbem —bbe- that boris johnson has handedi them _the covm them over directly to the covid bmewbrw— them over directly to the covid bmewbrw-se— them over directly to the covid bmewbrw-se-bmewl inquiry himself. so you know it's inquiry himself. so you know bb-e mbe— inquiry himself. so you know be me :— inquiry himself. so you know bb-e rbbe , mbe— inquiry himself. so you know it's ripe , ripe ground for a it's ripe, ripe ground for a climbdown— it's ripe, ripe ground for a climbdown if— it's ripe, ripe ground for a climbdown if you like. there is no climbdown if you like. there is me bwrbeee— climbdown if you like. there is me bwrbeee m— climbdown if you like. there is no purpose in conducting this beebebeb— no purpose in conducting this judicial review.— no purpose in conducting this judicial review. but the covid bmeebrw— judicial review. but the covid bmewbrw eberbe— judicial review. but the covid inquiry starts at— judicial review. but the covid inquiry starts at 1030 today. beer— inquiry starts at 1030 today. beem webbme— inquiry starts at 1030 today. been waiting for it a long, long bbme— been waiting for it a long, long bbme eme— been waiting for it a long, long time and it'll— been waiting for it a long, long time and it'll be— been waiting for it a long, long time and it'll be really interesting— time and it'll be really interesting to see what the cebmeb— interesting to see what the cabinet office _ interesting to see what the cabinet office think we've lost ebbwe —
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cabinet office think we've lost ebbwe wbbb— cabinet office think we've lost olivia will they _ cabinet office think we've lost olivia will they audio this brmebbbe— olivia will they audio this brmebbbe er— olivia will they audio this principle or not? cj" 3 principle or not? oh, apologies for that. that just. just finally in this conversation with regards to not just boris johnson's whatsapps, of course , johnson's whatsapps, of course, this judicial review may well affect the whatsapp of the rest of the cabinet during during covid as well. is that potentially what the government is more concerned about at. yes, that does seem to be what bbe— yes, that does seem to be what bbe cebmeb— yes, that does seem to be what the cabinet is— yes, that does seem to be what the cabinet is more concerned ebewb. — the cabinet is more concerned ebewb. b— the cabinet is more concerned ebewb. b me...— the cabinet is more concerned about. i mean, the cabinet will eembmwe— about. i mean, the cabinet will eembmwe bbe— about. i mean, the cabinet will continue. the cabinet office has bee— continue. the cabinet office has bee erewee— continue. the cabinet office has bee erewee ebb— continue. the cabinet office has has argued all the— continue. the cabinet office has has argued all the way through bbeb— has argued all the way through bbeb-beeb— has argued all the way through that-isn't about— has argued all the way through that isn't about hiding that this isn't about hiding berbbeeber— that this isn't about hiding particular messages from certain eebmeb—ebber- cabinet ministers to other eebmeb— cabinet ministers to other cabinet ministers. it is simply ebewb— cabinet ministers. it is simply about-principle.- cabinet ministers. it is simply about principle. it's about cabinet ministers. it is simply abo privacyirinciple. it's about cabinet ministers. it is simply abo privacy issue. e. it's about cabinet ministers. it is simply abo privacy issue. it's:'s about cabinet ministers. it is simply abo privacy issue. it's about ut the privacy issue. it's about bbe— the privacy issue. it's about bbe beee— the privacy issue. it's about the idea that— the privacy issue. it's about the idea that if— the privacy issue. it's about the idea that if the covid bmewbrw— the idea that if the covid bmewbrw be— the idea that if the covid inquiry is allowed access the inquiry is allowed to access the wmeeeebee— inquiry is allowed to access the unredacted whatsapps of all eerbe— unredacted whatsapps of all eerbe eb— unredacted whatsapps of all sorts of government ministers eme— sorts of government ministers emb-ebb— sorts of government ministers and-civil servants- sorts of government ministers and civil servants over and senior civil servants over bbe— and senior civil servants over bbe eeeree— and senior civil servants over bbe eb— and senior civil servants over the course of three then the course of three years, then mere— the course of three years, then bbere wbbb— the course of three years, then bbere wbbb be— the course of three years, then there will be lots— the course of three years, then there will be lots of sort of brbwebe— there will be lots of sort of private information that gets eeb.— private information that gets eeb. bbeb— private information that gets out. that-what— private information that gets out. that what they claim. of out. that is what they claim. of course, many people think that wbeb— course, many people think that wbeb be— course, many people think that what is actually— course, many people think that what is actually going on is bbeb— what is actually going on is bbeb bbere— what is actually going on is that there are _ what is actually going on is that there are certain cabinet mmbebere— ministers there are nine cabinet
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ministers-sitting- ministers there are nine cabinet ministers sitting in ministers still sitting in government— ministers still sitting in government who were in eewemmemb— government who were in government in 2020. and it could be-bbere— government in 2020. and it could be-bbere be— government in 2020. and it could be there is something be that there is something eemeeme— be that there is something eemeeme er— be that there is something damaging or embarrassing, at beeeb— damaging or embarrassing, at beeeb bbeb— damaging or embarrassing, at least that one— damaging or embarrassing, at least that one of— damaging or embarrassing, at least that one of them said in eeme—bbew- least that one of them said in. some _they don't some messages that they don't webb— some messages that they don't wembleeb— some messages that they don't wembleeb eeb. — some messages that they don't want get out. said, of want to get out. that said, of course,-covid_ want to get out. that said, of course, covid inquiry is course, the covid inquiry is eebeebee— course, the covid inquiry is eebeebee-em- course, the covid inquiry is expected-on for- course, the covid inquiry is expected on for three expected to go on for three wee.— expected to go on for three wee. se— expected to go on for three years. so there— expected to go on for three years. so there isn't any bmmmemb— years. so there isn't any imminent danger of any embarrassing- imminent danger of any embarrassing material getting into embarrassing material getting mbe—bb- embarrassing material getting i mbe—bbeeebe into the public eye. so it could be-cebmeb— into the public eye. so it could be-cabinet-is. be that the cabinet office is bebbme— be that the cabinet office is telling-whole- be that the cabinet office is telling whole truth and all telling the whole truth and all bbew— telling the whole truth and all bbew-wemee— telling the whole truth and all they worried about the they are worried about is the brweew— they are worried about is the brweew-bb- they are worried about is the privacy-it might. they are worried about is the privacy it might be privacy principle. it might be bbeb. — privacy principle. it might be bbeb. memb— privacy principle. it might be that. thank you,- privacy principle. it might be that. cjc , privacy principle. it might be that. , that. thank you, olivia utley there down at westminster. how three years for the covid inquiry , how horrific sweden inquiry, how horrific sweden have done . this is supposed to have done. this is supposed to cost us starting price £40 million under baroness hallett. although you look at the time eeebe— although you look at the time eeebe eb— although you look at the time scale of other— although you look at the time scale of other inquiries and bbere— scale of other inquiries and bbere be— scale of other inquiries and bbere be e— scale of other inquiries and there is a question if we rush an there is a question if we rush em bmewbrw— there is a question if we rush em bmewbrw. ee— there is a question if we rush an inquiry, do we— there is a question if we rush an inquiry, do we really get to the an inquiry, do we really get to bbe reeb— an inquiry, do we really get to the real evidence— an inquiry, do we really get to the real evidence ? so i mean, the real evidence? so i mean, beeb— the real evidence? so i mean, beeb eb— the real evidence? so i mean, beeb eb bew— the real evidence? so i mean, look at how long— the real evidence? so i mean, look at how long the leveson bmeebrw— look at how long the leveson bmewbrw beebeeb— look at how long the leveson inquiry lasted. look at how long the inquiry lasted. look at how long bbe cbbbeeb— inquiry lasted. look at how long the chilcot inquiry— inquiry lasted. look at how long the chilcot inquiry lasted in emer— the chilcot inquiry lasted in ereer be— the chilcot inquiry lasted in ereer be eeb— the chilcot inquiry lasted in order to get to— the chilcot inquiry lasted in order to get to the real truth . order to get to the real truth. do order to get to the real truth. be we— order to get to the real truth. be we be— order to get to the real truth. be we be we— order to get to the real truth. do we do we not— order to get to the real truth. do we do we not need to give bbbe— do we do we not need to give bbbe e— do we do we not need to give bbbe e breber— do we do we not need to give this a proper amount of time, a eerbem— this a proper amount of time, a certain amount— this a proper amount of time, a certain amount of— this a proper amount of time, a certain amount of time? qm
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certain amount of time? tom veer.— certain amount of time? tom veeb. beb— certain amount of time? tom yeah, but this— certain amount of time? tom yeah, but this is— certain amount of time? tom yeah, but this is just ridiculous. by the time they come to any conclusions, all of these will have ridden off these mps will have ridden off into to make their into the sunset to make their millions dining out on the role they played in a pandemic, which might saw from might turn out, as we saw from the report yesterday, the brilliant report yesterday, to been a complete to have been a complete overreaction . put put you and me overreaction. put put you and me in of that inquiry or in charge of that inquiry or indeed underreaction one. indeed an underreaction one. definitely not an underreaction. i'm just teasing you, but let's get— i'm just teasing you, but let's eeb beeb— i'm just teasing you, but let's eeb beeb be— i'm just teasing you, but let's get back to prince harry in the mem— get back to prince harry in the bbeb eeerb— get back to prince harry in the high eewrb e.— get back to prince harry in the high court now. just a few mmebee— high court now. just a few mmwbee eee— high court now. just a few minutes ago, we saw prince mew.— minutes ago, we saw prince werrw. eb— minutes ago, we saw prince harry, of course,— minutes ago, we saw prince harry, of course, arrive at the mem— harry, of course, arrive at the high eewe— harry, of course, arrive at the high court. let's— harry, of course, arrive at the high court. let's have a look at bbeee— high court. let's have a look at those pictures— high court. let's have a look at those pictures again now , of those pictures again now, of be be— those pictures again now, of course, he he drove up in his bemee— course, he he drove up in his bemee bever— course, he he drove up in his bemee bewer .— course, he he drove up in his range rover , his— course, he he drove up in his range rover , his black range range rover, his black range reve— range rover, his black range bve wbbb— range rover, his black range rover, with tinted windows . and rover, with tinted windows. and ebewb— rover, with tinted windows. and ebeeb be— rover, with tinted windows. and we're about to see.— rover, with tinted windows. and we're about to see. there he is. wee— we're about to see. there he is. me hoppi“9_ we're about to see. there he is. me beebbme eeb— we're about to see. there he is. he's hopping out the car. and i beve— he's hopping out the car. and i beve be— he's hopping out the car. and i beve be eew— he's hopping out the car. and i have to say, walking pretty ebeeebbw— have to say, walking pretty speedily through into the door of speedily through into the door eb bbe— speedily through into the door eb bbe bbeb— speedily through into the door of the high court, the car drove up ebeeb— of the high court, the car drove up ebeeb ee— of the high court, the car drove up about as close— of the high court, the car drove up about as close to that door as up about as close to that door ee bb— up about as close to that door ee bb ee— up about as close to that door as it was possible— up about as close to that door as it was possible to get. bbeb-e— as it was possible to get. bbeb-e bbe— as it was possible to get. that's the rock— as it was possible to get. that's the rock star- as it was possible to get. that's the rock star parking
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spot right there. i mean, look, you can't help but slightly admire his gait ball, like his gumption, his his body language when he got out of that range roven when he got out of that range rover, it reminded me of him walking abbey walking into westminster abbey at the coronation. you know, when he walked in and you walk through that room and you know that everybody in that room has got very mixed feelings about you, says rather kindly. and you, she says rather kindly. and yet still style it out. yet you're still style it out. and that's the look on his face, isn't it? when he gets out of there, language, he's there, his body language, he's carrying he's carrying this. i mean, he's going to have what the long going to have to what the long term effects we will only see in the fullness of time whether he can handle can genuinely handle this. i mean, astonishing bravado, mean, it is astonishing bravado, of to turn day late of course, to turn up a day late to this trial. a day late beee— to this trial. a day late because of— to this trial. a day late because of your- e” a day late because of your daughter's bbrbbeew— because of your daughter's birthday party-— because of your daughter's birthday party. now i don't yet beve— birthday party. now i don't yet have children— birthday party. now i don't yet have children ,_ birthday party. now i don't yet have children , but and i know have children, but and i know bbeb— have children, but and i know that children's— have children, but and i know that children's birthday parties are that children's birthday parties verw— that children's birthday parties are very important . they're not are very important. they're not bbeb— are very important. they're not that important. _ are very important. they're not that important. hopefully you do get that important. hopefully you do eeb rebber— that important. hopefully you do eeb rebber e— that important. hopefully you do get rather a lot— that important. hopefully you do get rather a lot of— that important. hopefully you do get rather a lot of them. they rebeeb— get rather a lot of them. they rebeeb everw— get rather a lot of them. they repeat every single this repeat every single year this bbbe— repeat every single year this bbbe-eb— repeat every single year this bbbe-eb bbe- repeat every single year this this of the century this this trial of the century beee— this this trial of the century beee meb— this this trial of the century does not repeat— this this trial of the century does not repeat every year. the beeb— does not repeat every year. the beeb bbme— does not repeat every year. the beeb bbme e— does not repeat every year. the last time a senior— does not repeat every year. the last time a senior royal was is ebbeerme— last time a senior royal was is ebbeerme m— last time a senior royal was is
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appearing in court— last time a senior royal was is appearing in court was 130 years eee. — appearing in court was 130 years eee. om.— appearing in court was 130 years eee. ob. wee— appearing in court was 130 years eee. ob. wee. — appearing in court was 130 years eee. ob. wee. vee— appearing in court was 130 years ago. oh, yes . /»i». ago. oh, yes. you love this, don't you? you've been very excited about this fact. i do. morning yes. just remind us who that royal was who appeared in court. well, it was then court. well, it was the then prince wales , the future prince of wales, the future edward seventh, who appear in court over a libel case known as the bakorat scandal. and i love how these scandals— the bakorat scandal. and i love how these scandals get- f: and i love how these scandals get such romance names,— how these scandals get such romance names, but it was all ebeeb— romance names, but it was all ebeeb e— romance names, but it was all ebeeb e eere— romance names, but it was all about a card game that was had wbbb— about a card game that was had wbbb wbbb— about a card game that was had with with several— about a card game that was had with with several of his friends eme— with with several of his friends eme wbebber— with with several of his friends and whether or— with with several of his friends and whether or not it included gamblingr— and whether or not it included gambling, which— and whether or not it included gambling, which was illegal at the gambling, which was illegal at bbe bbme. — gambling, which was illegal at the time. she's— gambling, which was illegal at the time. she's just- gambling, which was illegal at the time. ll the time. she's just brilliant, isn't it? i know. i mean, if you think about it, know we're going to fast forward 130 years from now, there will be two people, tom, you and i, probably tom, like you and i, probably robots sat here discussing this particular court case today . it particular court case today. it is easy to get harry fatigue , is easy to get harry fatigue, but it is history in the making . it truly is for him to stand there today on the stand if he does , as olivia said, it might does, as olivia said, it might be he ends the stand be that he ends up on the stand tomorrow. either way , this court tomorrow. either way, this court
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is to fast. this court is going to be fast. this court case to be absolutely case is going to be absolutely fast because we were fast dating because as we were heanng fast dating because as we were hearing yesterday from one of the lawyers, we discussing the lawyers, we were discussing every story pretty much every tabloid story pretty much that the group ran about him will be dissected in such granular detail that they will it will provide enough information for the newspapers for at least the next ten years. it's going to make his books spare look like a coffee table magazine . you know, the stuff magazine. you know, the stuff that's going to come out of this court case, because what they will be trying to explain, what harry will be saying there is harry will be saying is there is no the newspapers could have no way the newspapers could have known this information had they not been listening in my not been listening in to my phone. this isn't just phone. and this isn't just a eberw— phone. and this isn't just a eberw ebewb— phone. and this isn't just a story about but— phone. and this isn't just a story about but of- and this isn't just a story about but of course, the ongoing— story about but of course, the ongoing e— story about but of course, the ongoing e bbere— story about but of course, the ongoing a phone hacking scandal, ebbbeweb— ongoing a phone hacking scandal, ebbbeweb-be— ongoing a phone hacking scandal, ebbbeeeb-be e— ongoing a phone hacking scandal, although-is a very— although that is a very bmberbemb— although that is a very important part of it. this is a eberw— important part of it. this is a eberw-meme- important part of it. this is a story media angle, but story with a media angle, but ebee— story with a media angle, but also interpersonal also an interpersonal relationship- also an interpersonal relationship angle about the relationship— relationship angle about the relationship between prince werrw— relationship between prince werrw eme— relationship between prince werrw me me— relationship between prince harry and his brother. at what berm— harry and his brother. at what bemb ebe— harry and his brother. at what point did that— harry and his brother. at what point did that break down and beeb— point did that break down and beeb bew— point did that break down and beeb bew beeb— point did that break down and just how deep are these ebvbebeme— just how deep are these divisions within the royal rembbwe— divisions within the royal family? let's— divisions within the royal family? let's get more now from
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cemerem— family? let's get more now from cameron walker,— family? let's get more now from cameron walker, our royal reberber— cameron walker, our royal reberber wbe— cameron walker, our royal reporter who is- cameron walker, our royal reporter who is there at the mem— reporter who is there at the high eewrb— reporter who is there at the high court for— reporter who is there at the high court for us. cameron what are we expecting— high court for us. cameron what are we expecting today ? b/mi;.3:�* are we expecting today? yeah, webb— are we expecting today? yeah, webb. rem.— are we expecting today? yeah, webb. rem. ee— are we expecting today? yeah, well, tom, as you— are we expecting today? yeah, well, tom, as you saw , prince well, tom, as you saw, prince harry has just arrived inside the high court. and you were mentioning there just how confident he appeared in front of the cameras. i was actually inside the court building at the time prince harry's arrival. time of prince harry's arrival. and even when there wasn't any cameras, seemed incredibly cameras, he seemed incredibly confident is confident and smiling. he is clearly appears ready at least to give evidence and indeed be cross—examined in his case against mirror group newspapers. a lot of people, lots of commentators are saying that is a big risk for prince harry because this is not an oprah interview . this is not a interview. this is not a friendly promotional interview for his memoir, spare mr andrew gwynne casey , who is . prince gwynne casey, who is. prince harry's case, two pieces, essentially , he is going to essentially, he is going to question prince harry's version of events. question prince
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harry's narrative. it's very likely he's going to bring up very personal, perhaps deeply troubling details about prince harry's personal life, which has been printed in mirror group newspapers, articles over the last 20 years or so. the first article that's being tested, dates back to 1996, when prince harry was still a schoolboy and goes right up until 2011, clearly into early adulthood . so clearly into early adulthood. so prince harry is expected to take the stand, the witness box, as you said, tom, 130 years since the last senior royal has done that. mrjustice. mr sorry, andrew green . casey wants a day andrew green. casey wants a day and a half to question prince harry. so he is expected to be giving evidence all day today and perhaps into tomorrow as well. he is accusing mirror group newspapers of unlawful information gathering, phone hacking, so—called blagging, as well as the hiring of private investigators to carry out unlawful information gathering. so the journalists can write stories with that information that has been gathered . because that has been gathered. because prince harry's lawyer yesterday
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was arguing that prince harry stories about him are just too good not to write because they make a lot of money and can sell a lot of newspapers. so the case clearly continues here today. prince harry, as we said, has arrived in the high court in the last few minutes or so, is expected to start giving evidence at 1030 today in london. sounds like it's quite a meb— london. sounds like it's quite a brbeb .— london. sounds like it's quite a brbeb . bbbe— london. sounds like it's quite a trial . this this— london. sounds like it's quite a trial . this this will— : sounds like it's quite a trial . this this will be a lot trial. this this will be a lot of trial. this this will be a lot er breeere— trial. this this will be a lot of pressure on— trial. this this will be a lot of pressure on the prince. beve m— of pressure on the prince. however, in parallel, of pressure on the prince. however, in parallel , there's however, in parallel, there's eemebbme— however, in parallel, there's something else— however, in parallel, there's something else happening in the embed— something else happening in the united states— something else happening in the united states today, and this is an united states today, and this is em ebbeeb— united states today, and this is em ebbeeb em— united states today, and this is an appeal on prince harry's bmmberebbem— an appeal on prince harry's immigration visa to be able to bbve— immigration visa to be able to bbve m— immigration visa to be able to live in california. _ immigration visa to be able to live in california. the heritage beembebbem— live in california. the heritage foundation, a— live in california. the heritage foundation, a conservative think beeb.— foundation, a conservative think bemb. bee— foundation, a conservative think tank, has brought— foundation, a conservative think tank, has brought forward this ebbeeb— tank, has brought forward this ebbeeb .— tank, has brought forward this ebbeeb . em— tank, has brought forward this appeal . on what— tank, has brought forward this appeal. on what grounds . well, appeal. on what grounds. well, the immigration— appeal. on what grounds. well, the immigration ,_ appeal. on what grounds. well, the immigration , the us the immigration, the us immigration— the immigration, the us immigration system and laws , immigration system and laws, tomv_ immigration system and laws, rem. ee— immigration system and laws, tom, are incredibly strict . tom, are incredibly strict. so any— tom, are incredibly strict. so any admission— tom, are incredibly strict. so any admission of— tom, are incredibly strict. so any admission of illegal drug taking or illegal drug use is a
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big red flag. and can, in a lot of cases, actually bar you from either entering the united states and certainly living there . and what the heritage there. and what the heritage foundation is essentially arguing is how is it that prince harry, duke of sussex has made the admission in black and white that he he had taken cocaine and cannabis and magic mushrooms dunng cannabis and magic mushrooms during his in his memoir spare andindeed during his in his memoir spare and indeed talked about it dunng and indeed talked about it during those promotional interviews as well . and they are interviews as well. and they are wondering how if prince harry was truthful on his immigration form when he applied for a us visa in march 2020, how how on earth is it that he has been granted a us visa ? that is what granted a us visa? that is what the heritage foundation is arguing , that the us department arguing, that the us department of homeland security is being taken to court by them today and we'll have to wait and see what what what happens in that particular case, because the department of homeland security are refusing to answer those questions under a freedom of information request . but it information request. but it could be quite uncomfortable for prince if are forced
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prince harry if they are forced to disclose his visa application publicly. okay. to disclose his visa application publicly . okay. thank you. publicly. okay. thank you. cameron. cameron- {q okay. thank you. cameron. cameron walker there eewe— cameron. cameron walker there eewm eb— cameron. cameron walker there eewm eb eewe— cameron. cameron walker there down at court. we're joined in bbe— down at court. we're joined in bbe emere— down at court. we're joined in bbe ebeebe bw— down at court. we're joined in the studio by royal expert rafe heydel—mankoo._ the studio by royal expert rafe heydel—mankoo. i love talking to you heydel—mankoo. i love talking to wee ebeeb— heydel—mankoo. i love talking to wee ebeeb bbbe.— heydel—mankoo. i love talking to you about this, ralph, because you— you about this, ralph, because wee ee— you about this, ralph, because wee bbe— you about this, ralph, because you are the oracle— you about this, ralph, because you are the oracle of all royal bmewbeeee— you are the oracle of all royal knowledge and _ you are the oracle of all royal knowledge and you know what's eeeerbre— knowledge and you know what's eeeerrbme be — knowledge and you know what's occurring to me— knowledge and you know what's occurring to me when we're bbebemme— occurring to me when we're bbebemme be— occurring to me when we're listening to this. - occurring to me when we're listening to this. what what the ebbeebe— listening to this. what what the ebbeebe-be — listening to this. what what the effects - be - rest. listening to this. what what the effects- be - rest of| effects might be on the rest of the effects might be on the rest of bbe beweb— effects might be on the rest of the royal family,— effects might be on the rest of the royal family, what are the reverberations_ the royal family, what are the reverberations of— the royal family, what are the reverberations of this? give me the reverberations of this? give me bbe-eeee— reverberations of this? give me the-case scenario,- reverberations of this? give me the case scenario, rafe . the worst case scenario, rafe. webb— the worst case scenario, rafe. webb. bbe— the worst case scenario, rafe. well, the worst— the worst case scenario, rafe. well, the worst case- the worst case scenario, rafe. well, the worst case scenario is really a magnification of what happened with regards to prince william's dealings with murdoch and the revelation that he accepted a large settlement from rupert murdoch in order to settle his own allegations regarding phone hacking. now rupert murdoch, that's that's news international, the news group there, which is different to this news group. but the royals, think, are on royals, i think, are on tenterhooks wondering tenterhooks as to wondering what information will be released into the public domain in order to advance the case of prince harry, not just the royal family
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of course. now, piers morgan is also , to a degree in the box also, to a degree in the box because he's strenuously denied any knowledge of phone hacking throughout his tenure as editor of the daily mirror from 1995 to 2004. but this is the first time a court will actually be scrutinising those those claims . and we've already had yesterday a sherborne. the barrister for prince harry's side, revealing intimate letters written by diana to michael barrymore shortly after he came out of the closet and how those were released. and eyed by the mirror and of course, piers morgan has said that he has no knowledge of that. so it'll be a very interesting to see what's happening there. so, yes, as with all things involving the royal family, there are unintended consequences and unforeseen situations arise unforeseen situations that arise from there be from it. could there be revelations— . could there be revelations about the relationship- relationship that the royals beve — relationship that the royals beve—breeel relationship that the royals beve—beee bmi relationship that the royals. have—press in the have had with the press in the beeb—beve- past that the royals have brevbeeebw— past that the royals have previously denied in terms of collaboration— previously denied in terms of collaboration and swapping eberbee— collaboration and swapping eberbee eb— collaboration and swapping stories at the— collaboration and swapping stories at the expense of eerbebe— stories at the expense of bemebe ee— stories at the expense of perhaps one individual versus emebber— perhaps one individual versus emebbere — perhaps one individual versus another ? well,— perhaps one individual versus another ? well, of- perhaps one individual versus
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another ? �*fvtill »imi». perhaps one individual versus another ? »imi». another? well, of course that would undermine to a degree, the case about hacking, case about phone hacking, because arguments because one of the arguments being forward by the by the being put forward by the by the by by andrew green, kc , is in by by andrew green, kc, is in fact that it was tips. there were sources that were supplying this information because of course putting my legal hat on because i a law degree because i do have a law degree too. i can say that the burden of proof here is on prince harry. now it's not a criminal case, so it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. it's on the balance of probabilities, which makes easier prince makes it easier for prince harry. but still has to harry. but he still has to provide the evidence. and unfortunately, provide the evidence. and unfortunattwho have admitted to journalists who have admitted to hacking high profile persons have said that they've hacked prince harry. there is no evidence of that. so that's what we're really waiting to see because, of course, it's very difficult for the anonymity of your sources as journalists is vitally important. and they don't have to be proclaimed in a court of law. but of course, wbbbbem — court of law. but of course, wbbbbem eeb— court of law. but of course, william got a— court of law. but of course, william got a quiet- »i.»:i». ”. but of course, william got a quiet payoff bebme— william got a quiet payoff bebme bbe— william got a quiet payoff behind the scenes without it going— behind the scenes without it berme-eewe— behind the scenes without it going court. that going to court. does that eeeeeeb— going to court. does that eeeeeeb-bbew- going to court. does that suggest they did that they suggest that they did that they brew— suggest that they did that they bmew bbew-e — suggest that they did that they bmew bbew-e be— suggest that they did that they knew they'd be batting on a ebbebw— knew they'd be batting on a sticky wicket— knew they'd be batting on a sticky wicket when they got to
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eeerb— sticky wicket when they got to eeerb m— sticky wicket when they got to court in terms— sticky wicket when they got to court in terms of— sticky wicket when they got to court in terms of hacking? wbbbbem.— court in terms of hacking? william, they— court in terms of hacking? william, they must, right. webb— william, they must, right. webb. bbeb— william, they must, right. well, that was— william, they must, right. well, that was of- william, they must, right. well, that was of course, that was a different we're talking about murdoch here. we're not talking about the mirror group. sure. from women's sure. but from women's perspective was perspective of course, he was just doing the royals do. just doing what the royals do. do complain, never explain do never complain, never explain , have private settlement, , have a private settlement, because, course , whilst because, of course, whilst prince regards as taming prince harry regards as taming the media as his lifelong mission, as we know for the king, it's a suicide mission rather life's mission . rather than a life's mission. and that was prince william's tack and course, we've seen tack. and of course, we've seen that the past other that in the past with other royals. row back and have royals. can we row back and have a royals. can we row back and have e beeb— royals. can we row back and have e beeb-bbe— royals. can we row back and have a look-the history— can we row back and have a look the history here? a look at the history here? were— a look at the history here? we're calling— a look at the history here? we're calling this the trial of bbe— we're calling this the trial of bbe eemberw. — we're calling this the trial of the century. .now- we're calling this the trial of the century. now perhaps the century. and now perhaps bbeb-e— the century. and now perhaps bbere-bbb— the century. and now perhaps that's bit hyperbolic, that's a little bit hyperbolic, beb— that's a little bit hyperbolic, beb m— that's a little bit hyperbolic, beb m eeme— that's a little bit hyperbolic, but in some ways, the nuremberg mebe— but in some ways, the nuremberg brbebe mew— but in some ways, the nuremberg brbebe mew bebe— but in some ways, the nuremberg trials may take now. now now, now, now. in some— trials may take now. now now, now, now. in some in some ways now, now. in some in some ways it now, how. in some in some ways bb be— now, how. in some in some ways bb be eeeereeb— now, now. in some in some ways it is accurate because, of bbe— it is accurate because, of course, it's 130- it is accurate because, of course, it's 130 years since a reweb— course, it's 130 years since a senior royal appeared in court bbbe— senior royal appeared in court bbbe bbbe. — senior royal appeared in court like this. how— senior royal appeared in court like this. how consequential is mebe— like this. how consequential is bbebe b— like this. how consequential is that? i think— like this. how consequential is that? i think it's— like this. how consequential is that? i think it's hugely consequential because, of bbe— consequential because, of course, the mystique of monarchy is course, the mystique of monarchy be verw— course, the mystique of monarchy be verw meeb— course, the mystique of monarchy be verw meeb m— course, the mystique of monarchy is very much in the— course, the mystique of monarchy is very much in the fact that it
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is very much in the fact that it be eemeebw— is very much in the fact that it is somehow not— is very much in the fact that it is somehow not part of everyday bbbe. — is somehow not part of everyday bbbe. vee— is somehow not part of everyday life. you know,— is somehow not part of everyday life. you know, charles- is somehow not part of everyday life. v/»i». »:»i life. you know, charles de gaulle once said prestige cannot survive without mystery, for one, reveals little what one knows well. and what we've seen over recent is over recent decades is a chipping away that elevated chipping away of that elevated status that is somehow aethereal . and once you once you let daylight in upon magic, the purpose of monarchy becomes less and less relevant and important. and that's one of the things that i think prince harry is going to be known by, is that over the course of the last few years, he's done everything possible to pull down the curtains surrounding the monarchy. absolutely monarchy. i absolutely adore that gaulle quote, that de gaulle quote, because it's a slightly it's just sort of a slightly fancier of saying never meet fancier way of saying never meet your heroes. yes, exactly. we're only to meet we're not only going to meet them, we're going to we're going to learn more about to learn even more more about the that we've read the scandals that we've read about over the with harry about over the years with harry and other royal members will probably will get pulled into this. of you know, this. well, of course, you know, prince andrew's infamous newsnight interview is still providing material for years later . now we're providing material for years later. now we're going to have the most tender and delicate and sensitive for the royal sensitive era for the royal
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family of the 90s brought family of the 90s being brought back public eye scan back into the public eye scan channels that everybody in the royal family would rather not have into public have re—emerge into public scrutiny. i'm sure you're scrutiny. but i'm sure you're going to be seeing now on the front pages of these newspapers over days to come more over the days to come more unwanted attention on on, let's say, unpalatable aspects of royal life. yeah, lots and lots to come out in the next two days, ralph. for now, thank you verw— days, ralph. for now, thank you verw meeb— days, ralph. for now, thank you verw meeb ber— days, ralph. for now, thank you very much for going— : l for now, thank you very much for going through all of very much for going through all eb bbeb— very much for going through all eb bbeb wbbb— very much for going through all of that with us. _ very much for going through all of that with us. \e»ime very much for going through all of that with us. \e»:i:me very much for going through all of that with us. emiee £3“ of that with us. now, you can watch breaking coverage of all of prince harry's in the of prince harry's time in the high course, live on high court. of course, live on gb week. this is the gb news this week. this is the only that we'll bring it only place that we'll bring it to you as it is happening. still to you as it is happening. still to come, prince is due to to come, prince harry is due to give evidence today in court, of course, after failing to up course, after failing to turn up yesterday because of his daughter birthday. daughter lilibet's birthday. this to the on gb news this is to the point on gb news brbbebm-e— this is to the point on gb news britain's news— this is to the point on gb news britain's news .—
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it's tuesday, the 6th of june. this is to the point with tom harwood and bev turner. so harry arrives at court for the first time in over 100 years. a senior member of time in over 100 years. a senior be eb bbe— time in over 100 years. a senior member of the royal— e i“ �*00 web???» a senior member of the royal family will eberbbw— member of the royal family will eberbbw bbve— member of the royal family will shortly give evidence in a brbeb— shortly give evidence in a brbeb. were— shortly give evidence in a trial. we're bring you all the eebebbe— trial. we're bring you all the details throughout the programme. details throughout the. programme. -of details throughout the- programme. -of his details throughout the— programme. -of his case programme. it's part of his case against the mirror newspaper group hacking. group over phone hacking. he'll be cross—examined by a top barrister and is likely to face detailed questioning about his own private life . has he got any own private life. has he got any left? and the schofield saga eeme— 3317” and the schofield saga reaches westminster »i7 and the schofield saga reaches westminster and itv boss is
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reaches westminster and itv boss be beebme— reaches westminster and itv boss is facing questions— reaches westminster and itv boss is facing questions from mps bebew— is facing questions from mps beeew. abb— is facing questions from mps beeew. bbb eb— is facing questions from mps today. all of that onto the bebmb— today. all of that onto the bebmb .— today. all of that onto the bebmb . ame— today. all of that onto the point . and of— today. all of that onto the point . and of course, let us point. and of course, let us mew— point. and of course, let us bmew weer— point. and of course, let us know your thoughts throughout the know your thoughts throughout bbe breeremme— know your thoughts throughout the programme and on all of bbeee— the programme and on all of these talking— the programme and on all of these talking points. cit . these talking points. gb views at these talking points. gb views eb eb— these talking points. gb views eb eb eewe— these talking points. gb views at gb news .com is the address to email . but at gb news .com is the address to email. but first, here's your morning news with rory smith . morning news with rory smith. thank you very much, tom. the duke of sussex has arrived at the high court to give evidence against the publisher of the daily mirror. prince harry claims around 140 published articles contain and information that was gathered using unlawful methods like phone hacking and deception, mirror group newspapers is contesting those claims . well, meanwhile, the us claims. well, meanwhile, the us government will be challenged in court over its decision to give the duke of sussex a visa in 2020. it's after prince harry's
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admission of illegal drug use in his book spare. it's not known if he admitted this for the visa application. us official policy said that visa apply patients who were found to be drug users or addicts are in admissible itv represent incentives are to be expected to be grilled in parliament later over the broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield affair . sir phillip schofield affair. sir magnus brook from the managing team has attending parliament's culture , media and sport culture, media and sport committee , but it's expected the committee, but it's expected the meeting will be dominated by the scandal. questions have been raised over how much bosses at the channel knew about the affair . nana the channel knew about the affair. nana schofield quit itv after admitting his involvement with a younger male colleague on this morning, with a younger male colleague on this morning , the chairwoman of this morning, the chairwoman of the covid 19 inquiry is set to respond for the first time to a high court challenge over her request for boris johnson's whatsapp messages. baroness heather hallett will hold a
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preliminary inquiry hearing later to address ministers decisions to bring forward a judicial review. it's after the cabinet office failed to meet the deadline for providing the messages and instead opted to challenge the request through the court system. cabinet office minister jeremy quin defended this, saying it will be lawyers , not politicians, who would decide what is and what is not relevant . information for the relevant. information for the inquiry , piers , have issued a inquiry, piers, have issued a threat to delay the illegal migration bill unless the government provides details of the financial consequences of the financial consequences of the proposals. home office minister lord murray of blidworth faced criticism from peers who demanded an economic impact assessment, to which he responded by assuring that it would be released at a later date. the bill is currently undergoing detailed scrutiny in the lords, with potential amendments expected . foreign amendments expected. foreign secretary james cleverly says
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the best thing russia could do now is withdraw their troops immediately following the destruction of a dam in ukraine. the explosion of the kakhovka dam , which is 30m tall and two dam, which is 30m tall and two miles long, caused people living in low lying parts of the city of kherson to evacuate . east of kherson to evacuate. east ukraine and russia are accusing each other of causing widespread flooding in the region. it's reported 22,000 people and 14 sevilla boats are at risk of flooding the prime minister's adviser warns that technology could help produce killer weapons within two years. matt clifford said that unless producers are regulated on a global scale , then there could global scale, then there could be very powerful systems that humans could struggle to control. it comes as last month the prime minister spoke about the prime minister spoke about the government's ambitions to advance capability in al and use its potential to deliver better outcomes for the british public.
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like the man accused of murdering a met police sergeant inside croydon police station in 2020is inside croydon police station in 2020 is set to go on trial later today. 25 year old louis de zoysa from surrey pleaded not guilty to the charge in april, 54 year old sergeant matt ratana died after suffering a fatal wound to the chest after being shot. wound to the chest after being shot . he was a former protection shot. he was a former protection officer to princess diana and was two months off retirement when he was killed. the trial is expected to last three weeks. the cross—party public accounts committee has criticised the government for its so—called sluggish efforts to recover taxpayer money lost to fraud and error during the pandemic. in a report released today , the psc report released today, the psc has called for a step change in whitehall's risk management approach to avoid similar crises in the future. the report also highlighted recurring problems within the government's financial practises the committee has called for urgent
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action to rectify the situation and restore public trust with the government yet to respond to those findings , children's those findings, children's doctors have called on the government to ban display usable vapes, warning that youth vaping is fast becoming an epidemic among children . royal college of among children. royal college of paediatrics and child health says the product is just as addictive as traditional cigarettes. with the government consultation on e—cigarettes closes today . tech giant apple closes today. tech giant apple has unveiled a reality headset vision pro, describing it as the most advanced device ever . it's most advanced device ever. it's called vision pro and it combines virtual reality where the user is immersed in the digital world with augmented reality, where digital images are overlaid onto the real world. the technology is controlled by the user's eyes, hands and voice . this is gb hands and voice. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. nato back to bev and .
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tom so to bem- l so to our bem— . so to our top tom so to our top story this - so to our top story this membme— . so to our top story this morning, prince— - so to our top story this morning, prince-has. morning, prince harry has errbvee— morning, prince harry has errbvee-be- morning, prince harry has arrived -to givei morning, prince harry has. arrived -to give his arrived in london to give his evbeemee— arrived in london to give his evidence-the- arrived in london to give his evidence the mirror evidence against the mirror beeeb— evidence against the mirror ereeblbbe— evidence against the mirror group the latest phone group in the latest phone beebbme— group in the latest phone hacking trial. - group in the latest phone hacking trial. . hacking trial. the duke of sussex is due to testify before the court moment now . go on, the court any moment now. go on, tom. well, let's go to our royal correspondent , tom. well, let's go to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who is down at the high court this morning, where just some moments ago we saw the prince walk in. and what i must say was a pretty brisk fashion. cameron , what is the what— a pretty brisk fashion. cameron , what is the what is- a pretty brisk fashion. cameron , what is the what is the- cameron , what is the what is the prince bracing— , what is the what is the prince bracing himself— , what is the what is the prince bracing himself for today. , what is the what is the prince bracing himself for today . well, bracing himself for today. well, eemee— bracing himself for today. well, brbmee eeww— bracing himself for today. well, prince harry is— bracing himself for today. well, prince harry is having his day in prince harry is having his day be eeerb— prince harry is having his day be eeerb eme— prince harry is having his day in court and he— prince harry is having his day in court and he will be cross—examined by the barrister
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wbe— cross—examined by the barrister wbe be— cross—examined by the barrister who is representing mirror group mewebebere— who is representing mirror group mewebebere .— who is representing mirror group newspapers . prince harry is newspapers. prince harry is eeeeebme— newspapers. prince harry is eeeeebme bbe— newspapers. prince harry is accusing the newspaper group of embewbeb— accusing the newspaper group of unlawful information gathering, bbere— unlawful information gathering, bbeme beebbme— unlawful information gathering, bbeme beebbme .— unlawful information gathering, phone hacking , so—called phone hacking, so—called bbeeebme— phone hacking, so—called blagging and_ phone hacking, so—called blagging and the use of private bmveebbeebere— blagging and the use of private investigators to— blagging and the use of private investigators to gain unlawful bmermebbem— investigators to gain unlawful information in— investigators to gain unlawful information in order for their beemebbebe— information in order for their journalists to— information in order for their journalists to write stories ebeeb— journalists to write stories about prince— journalists to write stories about prince harry, which by ebemebem— about prince harry, which by extension is— about prince harry, which by extension is gives them the ebbbbbw— extension is gives them the ebbbbbw be— extension is gives them the ability to sell— extension is gives them the ability to sell papers. that's wbeb— ability to sell papers. that's what prince— ability to sell papers. that's what prince harry's lawyer, bevbe— what prince harry's lawyer, david sherborne, was arguing weebereew— david sherborne, was arguing weebereew .— david sherborne, was arguing weebereew . beb— david sherborne, was arguing yesterday . but it's the yesterday. but it's the cross—examination of prince berrw— cross—examination of prince berrw beeew— cross—examination of prince harry today that's going to be beebbeeberbw— harry today that's going to be particularly interesting. andrew ewwme— particularly interesting. andrew ewwme be.— particularly interesting. andrew gwynne kc, who's representing bbbrrer— gwynne kc, who's representing bbbrrer ebeeb— gwynne kc, who's representing mirror group newspaper , he wants mirror group newspaper, he wants a mirror group newspaper, he wants e eew— mirror group newspaper, he wants e be eme— mirror group newspaper, he wants e be eme e— mirror group newspaper, he wants eeew eme e bebe— mirror group newspaper, he wants a day and a half to— mirror group newspaper, he wants a day and a half to question brbmee— a day and a half to question brbmee eeww.— a day and a half to question prince harry. this is not going to prince harry. this is not going be be— prince harry. this is not going be be em— prince harry. this is not going be be em ebeeb— prince harry. this is not going to be an oprah interview. this is to be an oprah interview. this be meb— to be an oprah interview. this be meb going— to be an oprah interview. this be meb going be— to be an oprah interview. this is not going to be— to be an oprah interview. this is not going to be a special brbemebw— is not going to be a special friendly promotion interview for his friendly promotion interview for bbe memeb— friendly promotion interview for his memoir, spare everything. brbmee— his memoir, spare everything. brbmee berrw— his memoir, spare everything. prince harry says— his memoir, spare everything. prince harry says is going to be beevbbw— prince harry says is going to be heavily scrutinised— prince harry says is going to be heavily scrutinised and he and the barrister— heavily scrutinised and he and the barrister is— heavily scrutinised and he and the barrister is expected to erbbb— the barrister is expected to erbbb bbm — the barrister is expected to erbbb bbm em— the barrister is expected to grill him on specific acas. and the grill him on specific acas. and bbe eeeebbem— grill him on specific acas. and the question is— grill him on specific acas. and the question is what is prince berrw— the question is what is prince berrw going— the question is what is prince berrw going be— the question is what is prince harry going to do in order to bemebe— harry going to do in order to handle that?— harry going to do in order to handle that? it— harry going to do in order to handle that? it could also bebembbebbw— handle that? it could also potentially be— handle that? it could also potentially be slightly
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uncomfortable for members of the beweb— uncomfortable for members of the royal rembbw— uncomfortable for members of the royal family because if you remember a few— royal family because if you remember a few months ago , remember a few months ago, berme— remember a few months ago, eberbee bbe— remember a few months ago, during the separate case of news ebeeb— during the separate case of news ebeeb wewebebere— during the separate case of news group newspapers versus prince eeww.— group newspapers versus prince berrw. e— group newspapers versus prince berrw. e eeerb— group newspapers versus prince harry, a court documents in that eebeebbw— harry, a court documents in that actually revealed— harry, a court documents in that actually revealed that prince wbbbbem.— actually revealed that prince william, prince— actually revealed that prince william, prince harry's brother . reeebvee— william, prince harry's brother . reeebvee e— william, prince harry's brother , received a substantial payout bbem— , received a substantial payout brem wewe— , received a substantial payout from news group— , received a substantial payout from news group newspapers eemebbbme— from news group newspapers something which perhaps prince wbbbbem — something which perhaps prince wbbbbem eme— something which perhaps prince william and the— something which perhaps prince william and the royal family weebe— william and the royal family weebe beve— william and the royal family would have preferred to remain brbebe.— would have preferred to remain brbvebe. be— would have preferred to remain private. so there's— would have preferred to remain private. so there's lots of eeeebbeme— private. so there's lots of questions still- private. so there's lots of questions still to answer, bemebe— questions still to answer, bemeberer— questions still to answer, perhaps for prince harry and bmeeee— perhaps for prince harry and bmeeee bbe— perhaps for prince harry and indeed his personal life. but it is indeed his personal life. but it be eeme— indeed his personal life. but it be going be— indeed his personal life. but it be going be be— indeed his personal life. but it is going to be deeply uncomfortable because a lot of bee— uncomfortable because a lot of these articles— uncomfortable because a lot of these articles which have been wrbbbem.— these articles which have been written, which _ these articles which have been written, which are— these articles which have been written, which are being tested in written, which are being tested bm bbbe— written, which are being tested bm bbbe beee— written, which are being tested in this case, 33,— written, which are being tested in this case, 33, to— written, which are being tested in this case, 33, to be precise, bebe—bbe- in this case, 33, to be precise, ebebe—bbe wew| in this case, 33, to be precise,i ebebe—bbe wew eb date from 1996, all the way up to date from 1996, all the way up be zebb. — date from 1996, all the way up be zebb. ame— date from 1996, all the way up to 2011. and it— date from 1996, all the way up to 2011. and it contains details eeeb— to 2011. and it contains details eeeb ee— to 2011. and it contains details eeeb ee bbe— to 2011. and it contains details such as the breakdown of the rebebbemebbb— such as the breakdown of the relationship between prince eeww— relationship between prince berrw eme— relationship between prince berrw eme bbe— relationship between prince harry and his ex—girlfriend , harry and his ex—girlfriend, cbebew— harry and his ex—girlfriend, ebebew bevw— harry and his ex—girlfriend, chelsy davy, an— harry and his ex—girlfriend, chelsy davy, an argument that brbmee— chelsy davy, an argument that brbmee eeww— chelsy davy, an argument that prince harry and— chelsy davy, an argument that prince harry and prince william had prince harry and prince william me be— prince harry and prince william me be zoos— prince harry and prince william had in 2003 and— prince harry and prince william had in 2003 and even talks about bbeb— had in 2003 and even talks about bbeb eeme— had in 2003 and even talks about that some some— had in 2003 and even talks about that some some of— had in 2003 and even talks about that some some of what princess bbere— that some some of what princess bbeme webb— that some some of what princess bbeme wemb be— that some some of what princess diana went to went— that some some of what princess diana went to went through when she diana went to went through when ebe ee— diana went to went through when ebe ebbbb— diana went to went through when she was still alive.— diana went to went through when she was still alive. and all bbeee— she was still alive. and all these personal— she was still alive. and all these personal details are going to these personal details are going be be— these personal details are going be be breeebb— these personal details are going be be breeebb eb— these personal details are going to be brought up again and bemebe— to be brought up again 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to be brought up again and perhaps the barrister, andrew ebeee.— perhaps the barrister, andrew eeem. be— perhaps the barrister, andrew eeem. be .— perhaps the barrister, andrew green, kc , could— perhaps the barrister, andrew green, kc , could also mention green, kc, could also mention eebebbe— green, kc, could also mention details which _ green, kc, could also mention details which prince harry has membbemee— details which prince harry has mentioned in— details which prince harry has mentioned in his— details which prince harry has mentioned in his memoir spare as web.— mentioned in his memoir spare as web. se— mentioned in his memoir spare as web. se brbmee— mentioned in his memoir spare as well. so prince harry is eebeebee— well. so prince harry is expected to _ well. so prince harry is expected to start giving evbeemee— expected to start giving evidence at— expected to start giving evidence at 1030 8:30 am. beebew— evidence at 1030 8:30 am. beeew. bbe— evidence at 1030 8:30 am. today. the world's media are eebebee— today. the world's media are outside waiting— today. the world's media are outside waiting to hear what he eewe— outside waiting to hear what he eewe. ee— outside waiting to hear what he eewe. ee webb— outside waiting to hear what he says, as well as— outside waiting to hear what he says, as well as a— outside waiting to hear what he says, as well as a few members of says, as well as a few members eb bbe— says, as well as a few members eb bbe bebbbe— says, as well as a few members of the public who— says, as well as a few members of the public who are queuing, eeeebme— of the public who are queuing, queuing eb— of the public who are queuing, queuing up outside the courtroom. _ queuing up outside the courtroom. just a few hours bemebe— courtroom. just a few hours before prince— courtroom. just a few hours before prince harry arrived bere. — before prince harry arrived bere. okay-— before prince harry arrived here. okay. thank- before prince harry arrived here. “3b”? before prince harry arrived- here. okay. thank you, cameron . here. okay. thank you, cameron. we've heydel—mankoo in we've got rafe heydel—mankoo in the with us as well. rafe the studio with us as well. rafe i'm interested talk about two the studio with us as well. rafe i'ntheterested talk about two the studio with us as well. rafe i'nthe key.ted talk about two the studio with us as well. rafe i'nthe key protagonistabout two the studio with us as well. rafe i'nthe key protagonist in)ut two the studio with us as well. rafe i'nthe key protagonist in thiswo of the key protagonist in this court today, not actually court today, but not actually harry. do we know about the harry. what do we know about the lawyers? david sherborne is harry's lawyer. andrew green the mirror lawyer. two mirror group lawyer. yes. so two very profile mirror group lawyer. yes. so two very-profile barristers- mirror group lawyer. yes. so two very-profile barristers ,- very high profile barristers, bebb— very high profile barristers, both—leadingl very high profile barristers,- both_leading figures both amongst the leading figures in both amongst the leading figures bm bbe— both amongst the leading figures bm bbe eeembrw— both amongst the leading figures in the country, both skilled in a in the country, both skilled in e-eb— in the country, both skilled in a-of areas, not- in the country, both skilled in a of areas, not just in a variety of areas, not just in bbbe— a variety of areas, not just in bbbe eree— a variety of areas, not just in this area that— a variety of areas, not just in this area that we're dealing wbbb— this area that we're dealing wbbb beeew. — this area that we're dealing with today. david sherborne cerbebmbw— with today. david sherborne certainly the _ with today. david sherborne certainly the more famous and ebemereee— certainly the more famous and glamorous-he's- glamorous because he's rebreeembee— glamorous because he's represented many, many celebrities— represented many, many celebrities over the years, bmebeebme— celebrities over the years, including diana , it celebrities over the years,- including-diana , it has including princess diana, it has to including princess diana, it has be be— including princess diana, it has be be eebeb— including princess diana, it has be be eebe. be— including princess diana, it has to be said, he was— including princess diana, it has to be said, he was also representing- to be said, he was also representing celebrities in the beveee— representing celebrities in the beveee bmeebrw— representing celebrities in the leveson inquiry so course he leveson inquiry. so of course he eerbebmbw—
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leveson inquiry. so of course he eerbebmbw bee— leveson inquiry. so of course he certainly has cut— leveson inquiry. so of course he certainly has cut his teeth when it certainly has cut his teeth when bb-be— certainly has cut his teeth when bb-be ebeme— certainly has cut his teeth when it to phone hacking. it comes to phone hacking. beebbe— it comes to phone hacking. beebbe mew— it comes to phone hacking. people may remember his famous sbaggy— people may remember his famous shaggy dog— people may remember his famous sbaggy dog hair_ people may remember his famous shaggy dog hair from representing colin watts , her representing colin watts, her bm bbe— representing colin watts, her name in the rooney in the vardy emebr. — name in the rooney in the vardy emebr. bbe— name in the rooney in the vardy affair. the wagatha christie bebe.— affair. the wagatha christie bebe. beb— affair. the wagatha christie tale, but also— affair. the wagatha christie tale, but also his represented , tale, but also his represented, you— tale, but also his represented, wee mew.— tale, but also his represented, you know, mike— tale, but also his represented, you know, mike douglas and cebberbme— you know, mike douglas and catherine zeta—jones and various ebmeb— catherine zeta—jones and various ebber beebbe— catherine zeta—jones and various other people opposing him will be amerew— other people opposing him will be andrew green— other people opposing him will be andrew green , kc, who really be andrew green, kc, who really is be andrew green, kc, who really be bmewm— be andrew green, kc, who really be bmewm ee— be andrew green, kc, who really be bmewm ee e— be andrew green, kc, who really is known as a beast— be andrew green, kc, who really is known as a beast in the courtroom . but- is known as a beast in the courtroom . but his style isn't courtroom. but his style isn't meeeeeerbbw— courtroom. but his style isn't necessarily as— courtroom. but his style isn't necessarily as confrontational eme— necessarily as confrontational eme eeereeebve— necessarily as confrontational and aggressive as perhaps some eemmebeereb— and aggressive as perhaps some commentators we've heard have eebeb— commentators we've heard have eebe. be— commentators we've heard have eebe. be bee— commentators we've heard have said. he has quite— said. he has quite a conversation style which eebeebbw— conversation style which actually catches people off beebe— actually catches people off eeere er— actually catches people off guard or they're lulled into a rebee— guard or they're lulled into a bebee eemee— guard or they're lulled into a false sense of— guard or they're lulled into a false sense of security. and eebbe— false sense of security. and eebbe ebber— false sense of security. and quite often they— false sense of security. and quite often they don't actually reebbee— quite often they don't actually reebbee bbeb— quite often they don't actually realise that they're undermining bbeb— realise that they're undermining bbebr ewm— realise that they're undermining their own case.— realise that they're undermining their own case. and that eebeebbw— their own case. and that eebeebbw mew— their own case. and that actually may be one of the ways in actually may be one of the ways bm wbbeb— actually may be one of the ways in which prince— actually may be one of the ways in which prince harry may be brbebee— in which prince harry may be brbebee eb— in which prince harry may be tripped up. course , he may tripped up. of course, he may ebee— tripped up. of course, he may ebee beee— tripped up. of course, he may also become rather tetchy . you also become rather tetchy. you mew.— also become rather tetchy. you knew emebee— also become rather tetchy. you know, andrew green is knows beebbe-e— know, andrew green is knows people's weaknesses. and of course , tetchiness is something course, tetchiness is something bbeb— course, tetchiness is something bbeb brbmee— course, tetchiness is something that prince harry— course, tetchiness is something that prince harry is known for his that prince harry is known for bbe beb. — that prince harry is known for his job. andrew— that prince harry is known for his job. andrew green is to eebeebbw—
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his job. andrew green is to actually-prince- his job. andrew green is to actually prince harry his job. andrew green is to- actually-prince harry as actually portray prince harry as actually portray prince harry as everw— actually portray prince harry as everw bee— actually portray prince harry as a very bad historian, if i can say— a very bad historian, if i can eew bbeb— a very bad historian, if i can eew bbeb bbe— a very bad historian, if i can say that his recollection of the beebb— say that his recollection of the brebb .— say that his recollection of the truth , remember,— say that his recollection of the truth , remember, the queen truth, remember, the queen recollections— truth, remember, the queen recollections may vary, will apply— recollections may vary, will apply in_ recollections may vary, will ebbbw bm bbbe— recollections may vary, will apply in this case because bmebbeb— apply in this case because english courts— apply in this case because english courts now are very rebeebemb— english courts now are very reluctant to— english courts now are very reluctant to accept oral beebbmemw— reluctant to accept oral testimony on - reluctant to accept oral testimony on its own. there has to testimony on its own. there has be be— testimony on its own. there has to be evidence— testimony on its own. there has to be evidence backing up that ebeb— to be evidence backing up that oral testimony. _ to be evidence backing up that oral testimony. and as we've beeb— oral testimony. and as we've beeb beem— oral testimony. and as we've just been discussing, there bee-b— just been discussing, there bem-b meeb— just been discussing, there isn't much evidence that can beeb— isn't much evidence that can beeb eb— isn't much evidence that can beeb eb bbe— isn't much evidence that can back up the testimony that's beme— back up the testimony that's being beb— back up the testimony that's being put forward here. so if he eebeebbw— being put forward here. so if he can actually prove— being put forward here. so if he can actually prove that prince eeww— can actually prove that prince berrw bee-b— can actually prove that prince harry isn't that— can actually prove that prince harry isn't that good on facts eme— harry isn't that good on facts eme eebee— harry isn't that good on facts and dates and— harry isn't that good on facts and dates and we know of course, bbem— and dates and we know of course, brem ebb— and dates and we know of course, brem ebb bbe— and dates and we know of course, from all the interviews he's beem— from all the interviews he's beem eeme.— from all the interviews he's been giving, how bad he actually is been giving, how bad he actually be em— been giving, how bad he actually is on remembering— been giving, how bad he actually is on remembering what happened, wbeb— is on remembering what happened, when eme— is on remembering what happened, when and where. _ is on remembering what happened, when and where. so— is on remembering what happened, when and where. so the oprah wbmrew— when and where. so the oprah winfrey interview— when and where. so the oprah winfrey interview others , winfrey interview and others, bbeb-e— winfrey interview and others, that's actually,— winfrey interview and others, that's actually, i— winfrey interview and others, that's actually, i think one of bbe— that's actually, i think one of bbe mem— that's actually, i think one of the main advantages that andrew ebeee— the main advantages that andrew ebeee-se— the main advantages that andrew ebeee-se eve-re— the main advantages that andrew green f g green has. so we're expecting andrew kc, to really dig andrew green, kc, to really dig into these dates present prince harry as an unreliable witness to an extent i suppose. how much of that will become will zero in on, on some of these more personal stories . so some of
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personal stories. so some of these more intimate facts and present potentially the ones that prince harry has opened the door to in the publication of his own autobiography that's going to be a great deal of it. i mean, the idea is to form an everebb— i mean, the idea is to form an overall picture,— i mean, the idea is to form an overall picture, right? so bbbmee— overall picture, right? so things such— overall picture, right? so things such as, for example, brbmee— things such as, for example, brbmee eeww-e— things such as, for example, prince harry's said he remembers beme— prince harry's said he remembers bebme bebe— prince harry's said he remembers being told about— prince harry's said he remembers being told about his grandmother's death at eton when one grandmother's death at eton when eb— grandmother's death at eton when eb bbe— grandmother's death at eton when one of the masters— grandmother's death at eton when one of the masters came in. in beeb.— one of the masters came in. in beeb. be— one of the masters came in. in beeb. be e— one of the masters came in. in beeb. be m— one of the masters came in. in fact, he was in switzerland on a ebbbme— fact, he was in switzerland on a ebebe-eb— fact, he was in switzerland on a ebbbme-eb bbe— fact, he was in switzerland on a skiing-at the time.- fact, he was in switzerland on a skiing at the time. you skiing holiday at the time. you mew.— skiing holiday at the time. you knew bbeb-e— skiing holiday at the time. you know, that's the _ skiing holiday at the time. you know, that's the sort of thing you— know, that's the sort of thing wee weebe— know, that's the sort of thing you would expect to you would expect someone to remember. but yes, going into bbeee— remember. but yes, going into these-stories,- remember. but yes, going into these-stories, but- these personal stories, but bbeb-e— these personal stories, but bbeb-e-ebee- these personal stories, but that's also require that's going to also require brbmee— that's going to also require prince - relive - that's going to also require prince relive those prince harry to relive those memembe— prince harry to relive those moments , us— prince harry to relive those moments , us and by reliving all moments, us and by reliving all of moments, us and by reliving all eb bbeee— moments, us and by reliving all of those painful— moments, us and by reliving all of those painful-of- of those painful parts of his bbbe.— of those painful parts of his life, there's— of those painful parts of his life, there's a— of those painful parts of his life, there's a hope that that, of course, his— life, there's a hope that that, of course, his -will. of course, his memory will beee— of course, his memory will become even less sharp than it ebberwbee— become even less sharp than it ebberwbee bb— become even less sharp than it otherwise it wouldn't be allowed to otherwise it wouldn't be allowed be-wbbb— otherwise it wouldn't be allowed be-wbbb bbe— otherwise it wouldn't be allowed to -with the notes,- to sit there with the notes, weebe— to sit there with the notes, weebe-vee - to sit there with the notes, would -you wouldn'tl would he? you wouldn't be allowed sit with any allowed to sit there with any sort chronology. no, no. sort of chronology. no, no, no. the sort of chronology. no, no, no. bbe wbebe— sort of chronology. no, no, no. the whole point— sort of chronology. no, no, no. the whole point is— sort of chronology. no, no, no. the whole point is you- o no, no, no. the whole point is you were giving— the whole point is you were giving weer— the whole point is you were giving your evidence and you eem-b— giving your evidence and you eem-b rebee— giving your evidence and you can't refer to— giving your evidence and you can't refer to because of can't refer to notes because of wee eem-b— can't refer to notes because of course you can't coach. you're meb—be- course you can't coach. you're meb—be eeeebbmel course you can't coach. you're- not_be coaching your not supposed to be coaching your ebbemb. — not supposed to be coaching your ebbemb. -wee— not supposed to be coaching your client.-you have- not supposed to be coaching your client. you have notes client. and if you have notes bbere.— client. and if you have notes bbere—beve there, they could easily have beem—bw-
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there, they could easily have beem—bw e- there, they could easily havei been -by a lawyer. been written by by a lawyer. sere. — been written by by a lawyer. sere. vee— been written by by a lawyer. sure. you would— been written by by a lawyer. sure. you would think- been written by by a lawyer. | sure. you would think-it sure. you would think when it was something about this sort of chronology, would he just be able i can't remember able to say, i can't remember the he'll to say the he? well, he'll have to say i can't remember the detail of that. that that. but of course, that undermines his case because if you can't remember it, then how how nicely could how legitimate or nicely could it possibly be? it's going to be interesting. it is. but there's it possibly be? it's going to be intersomething s. but there's it possibly be? it's going to be intersomething s. buinteresting also something very interesting going— also something very interesting eeme-ebber- also something very interesting going-other side- going on on the other side of bbe— going on on the other side of the atlantic— going on on the other side of the atlantic in— going on on the other side of the atlantic in parallel. and bbbe—breeebb- the atlantic in parallel. and this—brought byi the atlantic in parallel. and. this—brought by the this is this case brought by the eemeervebbve— this is this case brought by the conservative _the. conservative think tank, the berbbeee — conservative think tank, the heritage foundation, about brbmee— prince harry's immigration ebebee— prince harry's immigration ebebe-us.- prince harry's immigrationj status- us. - are prince harry's immigration- status-us. -are the status to the us. what are the eebebbee — status to the us. what are the details? -right.- status to the us. what are the details? -right. so- status to the us. what are thei details? -right. solbig details? that's right. so a big day pure coincidence on both day by pure coincidence on both sides of atlantic. the sides of the atlantic. now, the heritage is the heritage foundation is the world's pre—eminent think tank and department for and it's had the department for homeland its homeland security in its crosshairs some time crosshairs for quite some time as tanks over here, too, as think tanks over here, too, looking at how they administer their immigration policy and the charges, of one rule charges, it's sort of one rule for ordinary people and another rule for global celebrities. so there's a great degree of double standards now, the standards here. now, the americans excuse americans traditionally excuse me, are very strong on drug use . so you may remember in 2010, pete flew into america pete doherty flew into america to jfk, and then had to get on a
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flight back because he was denied because of his drug convictions. the singer from the libertines, i'm my age. libertines, i'm showing my age. i assume people know who that is. nigella lawson , a is. and nigella lawson, a celebrity cook who wasn't even allowed board allowed to leave to board a flight to los angeles because of previously telling one of her aides that she had taken marijuana and cocaine. but ironic given how marijuana is legal in california now, which is i don't think it wasn't that dodi if it wasn't. and so very much the same thing. well, if it appued much the same thing. well, if it applied to those two, why hasn't it applied why hasn't it it applied to why hasn't it appued it applied to why hasn't it applied here? so i'm not sure whether this will actually lead to prince harry being banned from going to america. nigella lawson took a long time, but she was able to secure. but again, it was able to secure. but again, bb eeebe— was able to secure. but again, bb eeebe bb— was able to secure. but again, it could it could— was able to secure. but again, it could it could point- f but again, it could it could point to bebembbeb— it could it could point to potential untruthfulness from the potential untruthfulness from bbe eemee— potential untruthfulness from bbe brbmee bb— potential untruthfulness from the prince if this reveals documents,— the prince if this reveals documents, if- the prince if this reveals documents, if this result in his vbee— documents, if this result in his visa application— documents, if this result in his visa application being published . beb— visa application being published . beb we— visa application being published . beb we wbbb— visa application being published . but we will know if he eeeberee— . but we will know if he declared whether or not he took ebeee— declared whether or not he took ebeee em— declared whether or not he took ebeee em bbeb— declared whether or not he took drugs on that form _ declared whether or not he took drugs on that form and if he met— drugs on that form and if he met bbeb— drugs on that form and if he used that form _ drugs on that form and if he used that form to say , no, i've used that form to say, no, i've
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bebem— used that form to say, no, i've never taken illegal drugs. bbeb-e— never taken illegal drugs. bbeb-eweb— never taken illegal drugs. that's yet another lie from brbmee — that's yet another lie from brbmee berrw— that's yet another lie from prince harry. that's right. so bbere— prince harry. that's right. so bbere er— prince harry. that's right. so there are two _ prince harry. that's right. so there are two questions- prince harry. that's right. so there are two questions on the immigration reform. have you been a drug abuser? one and two, have you have you knowingly violated substance laws violated substance abuse laws and regulations? now, the question is, did the department of homeland security know that he'd drugs and then agreed he'd taken drugs and then agreed or did he lie on that form ? now, or did he lie on that form? now, i think that things will i don't think that things will come into the public eye in time for the resolution of this particular case. do, particular case. if they do, then yes, that will another then yes, that will be another smoking get you to smoking gun. let me get you to bbve— smoking gun. let me get you to give weer— smoking gun. let me get you to give your expertise— smoking gun. let me get you to give your expertise to- g g. i“ let me get you to give your expertise to some of our viewers questions, rafe, wbbbe— while you're here. this is i bbbmb— while you're here. this is i bbbmb-be— while you're here. this is i bbbmb-be-e- think this is just a technicality. but steve in breebmebb— technicality. but steve in bracknell says, if harry if berrw— bracknell says, if harry if harry failed _ bracknell says, if harry if harry failed to- bracknell says, if harry if harry failed to turn up at beeeb.— harry failed to turn up at eeerb. ee— harry failed to turn up at court, as yesterday, normally court, as in yesterday, normally bbeb—beeb- court, as in yesterday, normally bbeb—beeb weer- court, as in yesterday, normallyi that—lost your case that means you've lost your case eee— that means you've lost your case eeele— that means you've lost your case eeele bebbere— that means you've lost your case due-a failure to— that means you've lost your case due a failure to show. why is due to a failure to show. why is bbbe— due to a failure to show. why is this different— due to a failure to show. why is this different? _ due to a failure to show. why is this different? this- this different? this is different was different because today was actually court actually his day in court yesterday, he was advised the lawyers and he was told that they appear here in case they must appear here in case they must appear here in case the opening statements finished early and there was spare time because court time is very expensive and it takes a lot of
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time to organise these things. so they were told to arrive for prince harry. obviously his day in court means something different to everybody , to different to everybody, to everybody else . and the excuse everybody else. and the excuse that given by sherborne that was given by sherborne that, you know, he's not like other other people other people, other people giving evidence , you know, it's giving evidence, you know, it's like under law, everyone is like under the law, everyone is equal like under the law, everyone is equal. i don't care how grand you are, everyone is equal. it almost me of at the at almost reminded me of at the at the coronation prince harry the coronation when prince harry delayed long accepting delayed so long and accepting the because of the invitation because of security meanwhile the security concerns. meanwhile the president of france, first lady of united states, had no issue at all with accepting the invitation . i don't know why he invitation. i don't know why he thinks deserves special thinks he deserves special treatment of this. but treatment on all of this. but yes youin treatment on all of this. but yes you in a yes, it doesn't put you in a good, good position with the judge, to be said judge, though it has to be said now. patrick in birmingham has wrbbbem— now. patrick in birmingham has wrbbbemleew— now. patrick in birmingham has written-say that— patrick in birmingham has written say that prince harry written to say that prince harry eeemelbeve— written to say that prince harry eeemelbeve e— written to say that prince harry seems-have a very- written to say that prince harry seems have a very naive view seems to have a very naive view of seems to have a very naive view eb bbe— seems to have a very naive view eb bbe ewe— seems to have a very naive view of his own mother's— seems to have a very naive view of his own mother's relationship wbbb— of his own mother's relationship wbbb bbe— of his own mother's relationship wbbb bbe ebeee— of his own mother's relationship with the press .— of his own mother's relationship with the press . i— of his own mother's relationship with the press . i suppose this with the press. i suppose this is with the press. i suppose this be e— with the press. i suppose this be e verw— with the press. i suppose this is a very important point in bbbe— is a very important point in bbbe brbeb. — is a very important point in this trial. it— is a very important point in this trial. it was— is a very important point in this trial. it was the case that eberbee— this trial. it was the case that eberbee wee— this trial. it was the case that stories were leaked to the press
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. bbere— stories were leaked to the press . bbere ee— stories were leaked to the press . bbere e— stories were leaked to the press . there was a relationship bebweem.— . there was a relationship between, for— . there was a relationship between, for example, piers beebem— between, for example, piers morgan eme— between, for example, piers morgan and princess diana . do morgan and princess diana. do you— morgan and princess diana. do wee bbbmb— morgan and princess diana. do wee bbbmb bbeb— morgan and princess diana. do you think that prince harry, bemebe— you think that prince harry, eemebe ee— you think that prince harry, perhaps was too insulated from eb— perhaps was too insulated from eb bbe— perhaps was too insulated from some of the sausage making breeeee— some of the sausage making breeeee eb— some of the sausage making process of the— some of the sausage making process of the of— some of the sausage making process of the of the tabloid ebeee— process of the of the tabloid breee m— process of the of the tabloid breee bm bbe— process of the of the tabloid press in the late— process of the of the tabloid press in the late 90s? weill press in the late 90s? well, to beeebebbee— press in the late 90s? well, to insulation, maybe also maybe the blind love of a son for their mother not able to face up to the to the reality was that she was an extremely astute and an extremely skilled pr manipulator. we know full well that she regarded her job as to that she regarded herjob as to basically counter the palace and she was far more effective in her press campaign then the then prince of wales was. and we know that full well. and as you said, she had a relationship with piers morgan. and also, i mean, piers morgan. and also, i mean, piers morgan. and also, i mean, piers morgan also used to go drinking with marc bolan, who was then the adviser the was then the adviser to the prince and was prince of wales, too, and was very in there. so very well plugged in there. so she knew what was she certainly knew what she was doing. very doing. and it was very interesting to contrast, for example, her image in the 80s and the and 90s with that of the princess royal. the princess
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royal princess royal. the princess royal, of the hardest royal, of course, the hardest working in the royal working royal in the royal family very little coverage family got very little coverage in diana had in the paper, whereas diana had actually very limited number actually a very limited number of compared of public engagements compared to time that she had. to the free time that she had. and yet appeared as she to the free time that she had. and the appeared as she to the free time that she had. and the hardestired as she to the free time that she had. and the hardest working she to the free time that she had. and the hardest working royal. was the hardest working royal. elisa has got in touch. gb views at elisa has got in touch. gb views eb eb— elisa has got in touch. gb views eb eb bewe— elisa has got in touch. gb views at gb news .com— elisa has got in touch. gb views at gb news .com and she says, rm— at gb news .com and she says, b-m bebbw— at gb news .com and she says, i'm fully behind— at gb news .com and she says, i'm fully behind prince harry. bve— i'm fully behind prince harry. b-ve bee— i'm fully behind prince harry. i've had personal experience of meebe— i've had personal experience of meebe-be— i've had personal experience of media-he deserves- media lies and he deserves his day— media lies and he deserves his eew-beeeb.— media lies and he deserves his eewleeerb. bbb— media lies and he deserves his day-court. i'd love- media lies and he deserves his day court. i'd love to see day in court. i'd love to see bbe— day in court. i'd love to see the-intrusiveness. day in court. i'd love to see- the-intrusiveness reined the media's intrusiveness reined in. the media's intrusiveness reined bm. bbeb-e— the media's intrusiveness reined bm. bbeb-e em— the media's intrusiveness reined in. that's an interesting meeeeee— in. that's an interestingi message -terms in. that's an interesting- message -terms of the message for me in terms of the bebbbe— message for me in terms of the public perception— message for me in terms of the public perception of prince berrw—bbl public perception of princei berrw—bb be public perception of prince- harry_if he wins harry and whether he if he wins bbbe— harry and whether he if he wins bbbe eeee— harry and whether he if he wins bbbe eme— harry and whether he if he wins this case and if— harry and whether he if he wins this case and if it— harry and whether he if he wins this case and if it is found bbeb— this case and if it is found bbeb be— this case and if it is found that he was— this case and if it is found that he was a— this case and if it is found that he was a victim of phone beebbme— that he was a victim of phone beebbme eme— that he was a victim of phone hacking and illegal means of eeeerbebmbme— hacking and illegal means of ascertaining information, would bbeb— ascertaining information, would bbeb ebemee— ascertaining information, would that change his— ascertaining information, would that change his his image in the bebbbe— that change his his image in the bebbbe ewe.— that change his his image in the bebbbe ewe. b— that change his his image in the public eye, i think— that change his his image in the public eye, i think was a large eeememb— public eye, i think was a large eeememb eb— public eye, i think was a large segment of won't— public eye, i think was a large segment of won't change his meee.— segment of won't change his bmeee. beb— segment of won't change his image, but there'll be a lot of ewmbebbw— image, but there'll be a lot of sympathy-him - image, but there'll be a lot of sympathy him. '»: sympathy towards him. and i emeb.— sympathy towards him. and i bbmb. eeem— sympathy towards him. and i think, again, this— sympathy towards him. and i think, again, this is a generational issue as well amongst the young of this country. actually much country. there actually much more saying , yes, more on side here saying, yes, go take them, whereas the go and take them, whereas the older, older generation are saying let sleeping dogs lie. really? it's been so long. what are hoping to achieve are you really hoping to achieve
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here? that phone here? we know that the phone hacking is over. you don't hacking era is over. you don't even have the technology to even have the technology now to do it. even have the technology now to doit.the even have the technology now to do it. the loop, the loophole that being exploited that was being used, exploited has up. yeah. okay, has been sealed up. yeah. okay, great. has been sealed up. yeah. okay, ebeeb. membe.— has been sealed up. yeah. okay, great. thanks, ralph.— i“ : l. yeah. okay, great. thanks, ralph. remember, you great. thanks, ralph. remember, wee-webm— great. thanks, ralph. remember, wee-webeb ebb— great. thanks, ralph. remember, you-watch all-the- you can watch all of the coverage of _ you can watch all of the coverage of prince harry's time in coverage of prince harry's time mem—- coverage of prince harry's time mem— ebl in the high court live on gb bewe. — in the high court live on gb bewe. bbb— in the high court live on gb news. all this— in the high court live on gb news. all this week . \»i»e ll news. all this week. now, still to news. all this week. now, still be-bbv— news. all this week. now, still to itv executive will to come, itv executive will attend parliamentary committee attend a parliamentary committee this morning where for the first time, they're expected to be questioned the schofield questioned over the schofield saga. this is the point on gb news britain's news channel. we'll
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on gb news, the people's. ebemeb— on gb news, the people's. channel good— on gb news, the people's. channel good morning. . �*02’5 channel good morning. it's 1023 wee-re— channel good morning. it's 1023 wee wbbb— channel good morning. it's 1023 wee-re wbbb be— channel good morning. it's 1023 you're with to the channel good morning. it's1023 you're with to the point on gb news with me, bev turner and tom harwood today. now parliament's eebbere— harwood today. now parliament's eebbere. meebe— harwood today. now parliament's culture, media and— harwood today. now parliament's culture, media and sport- culture, media and sport committee— culture, media and sport committee holds today an evbeemee— committee holds today an evidence session to scrutinise bbe— evidence session to scrutinise the government's— evidence session to scrutinise the government's draft media bbbb — the government's draft media bbbb beb— the government's draft media bbbb beb bbe— the government's draft media bill. but it's a— the government's draft media bill. but it's a bit— the government's draft media bill. but it's a bit more evebbbme— bill. but it's a bit more exciting than- bill. but it's a bit more exciting than that, correct? beeeeee— exciting than that, correct? because answering - exciting than that, correct? because answering questions from mps will be magnus brooke, itv group director of strategy policy and regulation. again, more interesting than that sounds amongst others, but the recent schofield schofield scandal could overshadow this session and the line on questioning could easily turn towards who knew what and when at this morning. so how did we get here? our reporter lisa hartle takes us through what's happened so far. you, me and all of happened so far. you, me and all eb ee— happened so far. you, me and all eb ee eb— happened so far. you, me and all eb ee eb bbbe— happened so far. you, me and all of us at this morning— : you, me and all of us at this morning gave our beve— of us at this morning gave our beve eme— of us at this morning gave our love and support— of us at this morning gave our love and support to someone who meb— love and support to someone who meb bebbbme— love and support to someone who was not telling the— love and support to someone who was not telling the truth . i“ was not telling the truth. this memmb— was not telling the truth. this memme bee— was not telling the truth. this morning has been— was not telling the truth. this morning has been a- was not telling the truth. this morning has been a flagship itv show for 35 years. it was in
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2009 that holly willoughby joined phillip schofield on the sofa. their chemistry was a hit wbbb— sofa. their chemistry was a hit wbbb vbewee— sofa. their chemistry was a hit with viewers and— their chemistry was a hit with viewers and the pair were eebe— with viewers and the pair were eebe be— with viewers and the pair were eebe be be— with viewers and the pair were said to be good— with viewers and the pair were said to be good friends. over bbe— said to be good friends. over bbe be— said to be good friends. over bbe be weere— said to be good friends. over the 13 years working together on the 13 years working together on bbe ebew— the 13 years working together on bbe ebew em — the 13 years working together on the show on the— the 13 years working together on the show on the 17th of april, bbv— the show on the 17th of april, itv announced— the show on the 17th of april, itv announced holly was absent wbbb— itv announced holly was absent wbbb emmebee— itv announced holly was absent with shingles as— itv announced holly was absent with shingles as philip returned to with shingles as philip returned be webb— with shingles as philip returned be werb ebber— with shingles as philip returned to work after time— with shingles as philip returned to work after time off during his brother's— to work after time off during his brother's trial for child sex offences— his brother's trial for child sex offences on - his brother's trial for child sex offences on the 10th of may, rumours circulate _ sex offences on the 10th of may, rumours circulate that the pair are rumours circulate that the pair berebw— rumours circulate that the pair are barely speaking amidst a ebb.— are barely speaking amidst a rbbb. bbb— are barely speaking amidst a rbbb. bbb eb— are barely speaking amidst a rift. 15th of may,— are barely speaking amidst a rift. 15th of may, the pair ebbeeree— rift. 15th of may, the pair appeared together on the show ebber— appeared together on the show ebber bbbbbbb— appeared together on the show after phillip tells— appeared together on the show after phillip tells a reporter bbeb— after phillip tells a reporter bbeb bebbw— after phillip tells a reporter that holly is— after phillip tells a reporter that holly is his rock after bbem— that holly is his rock after more than 20— that holly is his rock after more than 20 years on the show, bbbbbbb— more than 20 years on the show, phillip schofield— more than 20 years on the show, phillip schofield announces he's ebebbbme— phillip schofield announces he's ebebbbme eewe— phillip schofield announces he's stepping down from this morning wbbb— stepping down from this morning with immediate— stepping down from this morning with immediate effect on 21st of ebew. — with immediate effect on 21st of ebew. bbbeem— with immediate effect on 21st of may. alison hammond and dermot o-beerw— may. alison hammond and dermot o-beerw ee— may. alison hammond and dermot o'leary are announced as the breeembere— o'leary are announced as the presenters for— o'leary are announced as the presenters for monday's show, wbbbeb— presenters for monday's show, wbbbeb bebbw— presenters for monday's show, whilst holly takes early half berm — whilst holly takes early half berm beeve — whilst holly takes early half term leave. now we can't start beeew-e— term leave. now we can't start beeew-e ebew— term leave. now we can't start today's show without paying brbbebe— today's show without paying tribute-man- today's show without paying tribute man who spent the tribute to the man who spent the beeb— tribute to the man who spent the beeb bwe — tribute to the man who spent the last two decades— tribute to the man who spent the last two decades sitting on the bbbe— last two decades sitting on the bbbe memmb— last two decades sitting on the this morning sofa. ll this morning sofa. phillip schofield. philip- this morning sofa. ll f: philip releases a schofield. philip releases a ebebememb— f: philip releases a statement admitting to an affair wbbb— statement admitting to an affair wbbb e— statement admitting to an affair wbbb e meeb— statement admitting to an affair with a much younger man and
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announces he's stepping down bem— announces he's stepping down brem bbv. — announces he's stepping down brem bbv. be-e— announces he's stepping down from itv. he's also dropped by his from itv. he's also dropped by bbe eerem.— from itv. he's also dropped by bbe eeemb. m— from itv. he's also dropped by bbe eeemb. m e— from itv. he's also dropped by his agent. in a statement, itv say— his agent. in a statement, itv eew bb— his agent. in a statement, itv say it investigated rumours of a rebebbemebbb— say it investigated rumours of a relationship between schofield and relationship between schofield eme e— relationship between schofield eme e weemeer— relationship between schofield and a younger man, but say no evbeemee— and a younger man, but say no evbeemee ee— and a younger man, but say no evidence was found whilst holly beebe— evidence was found whilst holly beebe em— evidence was found whilst holly posts on instagram describing bew— posts on instagram describing bew beeb— posts on instagram describing bew berb ebe— posts on instagram describing how hurt she is— posts on instagram describing how hurt she is that phil lied to how hurt she is that phil lied be ber— how hurt she is that phil lied be be wbeb— how hurt she is that phil lied to her when she— how hurt she is that phil lied to her when she asked him if the eberbe— to her when she asked him if the reberbe wee— to her when she asked him if the reports were true. _ to her when she asked him if the reports were true. dr. ranj sbmeb— reports were true. dr. ranj sbmeb .— reports were true. dr. ranj sbmeb . e— reports were true. dr. ranj singh , a former guest presenter singh, a former guest presenter on singh, a former guest presenter em bbe— singh, a former guest presenter em bbe ebew.— singh, a former guest presenter on the show, posts— singh, a former guest presenter on the show, posts on twitter bbeb— on the show, posts on twitter bbeb be— on the show, posts on twitter bbeb be beeb— on the show, posts on twitter that he took concerns of a toxic eebbere — that he took concerns of a toxic eebbere be — that he took concerns of a toxic culture to itv— that he took concerns of a toxic culture to itv bosses years ago. bbv— culture to itv bosses years ago. bbv eew— culture to itv bosses years ago. bbv eew em— culture to itv bosses years ago. itv say an independent investigation- itv say an independent investigation found no evidence of investigation found no evidence er bebbwbme— investigation found no evidence er bebbwbme er— investigation found no evidence of bullying or harassment . sir of bullying or harassment. sir bbbbbb— of bullying or harassment. sir ebbbbb beebe— of bullying or harassment. sir philip posts on— of bullying or harassment. sir philip posts on instagram saying it's philip posts on instagram saying bb-e bbe— philip posts on instagram saying bb-e bbe eeme— philip posts on instagram saying it's the same handful of people wbbb— it's the same handful of people wbbb e— it's the same handful of people wbbb e ebeebe— it's the same handful of people with a grudge against me or the ebew— with a grudge against me or the ebew bbeb— with a grudge against me or the show that shouts— with a grudge against me or the show that shouts the loudest and eebe— show that shouts the loudest and said thousands— show that shouts the loudest and said thousands of— show that shouts the loudest and said thousands of people who had ebbeeree— said thousands of people who had ebbeeree er— said thousands of people who had appeared or worked— said thousands of people who had appeared or worked on the show weebe— appeared or worked on the show weebe ebbeeb— appeared or worked on the show would attest the— appeared or worked on the show would attest the show is a good ebeee— would attest the show is a good bbeee be— would attest the show is a good bbeee be verb.— would attest the show is a good place to work. gb— would attest the show is a good place to work. gb news presenter and place to work. gb news presenter eme bermer— place to work. gb news presenter and former this— place to work. gb news presenter and former this morning host bemem— and former this morning host eamonn holmes— and former this morning host eamonn holmes , in interview eamonn holmes, in an interview wbbb— eamonn holmes, in an interview wbbb-webbe— eamonn holmes, in an interview with .wootton,-the. with dan wootton, accuse the breeeeeeber— with dan wootton, accuse the broadcaster-cover- with dan wootton, accuse the broadcaster cover up. it's broadcaster of a cover up. it's a broadcaster of a cover up. it's e eebeebem. — broadcaster of a cover up. it's ebebeebem. im- broadcaster of a cover up. it's a delusion. it's an illusion. the thing is. but isn't it the whole thing is. but isn't it a cover up ? yes, it's total a cover up? yes, it's a total cover up . it's a total cover up.
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cover up. it's a total cover up. and wednesday, 31st of may, itv appoints a barrister to carry out an external investigation into the facts . this friday, the into the facts. this friday, the me— into the facts. this friday, the me eb— into the facts. this friday, the me eb eeme.— into the facts. this friday, the 2nd of june, philip— f this friday, the 2nd of june, philip gave an bmbervbew— 2nd of june, philip gave an interview to— 2nd of june, philip gave an interview to the— 2nd of june, philip gave an interview to the bbc saying he eeebbw— interview to the bbc saying he eeebbw eerew— interview to the bbc saying he was deeply sorry for lying on bbembew— was deeply sorry for lying on ebemeew. bbe— was deeply sorry for lying on monday, the 5th— was deeply sorry for lying on monday, the 5th of june, holly willoughby— monday, the 5th of june, holly willoughby returned to this member. — willoughby returned to this morning. joined by josie morning. sofa joined by josie ebbeem— morning. sofa joined by josie ebbeem .— morning. sofa joined by josie ebbeem . bbv— morning. sofa joined by josie gibson . itv bosses are expecting gibson. itv bosses are expecting eeeebbeme— gibson. itv bosses are expecting eeeebbeme em— gibson. itv bosses are expecting questions on the— gibson. itv bosses are expecting questions on the handling of sebebbebe-e— questions on the handling of schofield's departure when they ebbeer— schofield's departure when they ebbeer bemebe— schofield's departure when they appear before the— schofield's departure when they appear before the dcms committee beeew. — appear before the dcms committee beeew. bbee — appear before the dcms committee today. lisa hartle— appear before the dcms committee today. lisa hartle gb news . today. lisa hartle gb news. bemebem — today. lisa hartle gb news. bemebem se— today. lisa hartle gb news. london so we're- today. lisa hartle gb news. london gmi» g gmi» today. lisa hartle gb news.- london so we're going to go now live to westminster, where parliament's culture, media and sport committee is holding an evidence session to scrutinise the draft media the government's draft media bill, thank you very much. simon thank you, chair. good memmb— simon thank you, chair. good memme .— simon thank you, chair. good memme . bb— simon thank you, chair. good morning . b we— simon thank you, chair. good morning . if we could talk about morning. if we could talk about the shift from proportion based quotas to absolute ones to start with , if that's all right, how with, if that's all right, how will that change the way you fulfil your public service remit? mitchell i'll come to you first, if that's all right. thank you. i mean, i think from so thank you. i mean, i think from ee bbe— thank you. i mean, i think from ee bbe bbeb— thank you. i mean, i think from so the first point—
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thank you. i mean, i think from so the first point you— i mean, i think from so the first point you speak of beevbb— so the first point you speak of megxit earlier— so the first point you speak of megxit earlier comment, channel five megxit earlier comment, channel bbve ebbbb— megxit earlier comment, channel bbve ebbbb bee— megxit earlier comment, channel five still has quite— five still has quite a significant- five still has quite a significant linear audience. ebemeb— significant linear audience. channel five— significant linear audience. channel five is— significant linear audience. channel five is destination for beebeeb— channel five is destination for factual television— channel five is destination for factual television for sure. webb— factual television for sure. webb. bbeb-e— factual television for sure. well, that's of— factual television for sure. well, that's of course- factual television for sure. well, that's of course the one of the bosses of channel five speaking there. we'll try and dip back in when itv does start speaking, of course, this session on before the cms or the dcms committee is on the draft media bill. so whilst itv bosses are being questioned , there's a are being questioned, there's a lot of other questions at that committee. can i just say that was a lot what you could have one moment you could be watching a channel that's literally playing that boring nonsense right now, or you could be with us. all the best. the media bill. the media bill will reform the decades old laws to turbocharge the growth. it's talking about, quote was for british content. i mean, it's talking about what television should be mandated from the government. it's really, really interesting. i'm i might be pulling a leg here. anyway, stay with us because we're actually much more interesting that, much more interesting than that,
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which a very low which admittedly is a very low bar. tack bar. right. let's switch tack eebebbw— bar. right. let's switch tack eebebbw mew— right. let's switch tack quickly now, move to on in quickly now, move to on harry in eeem— quickly now, move to on harry in emeem—- quickly now, move to on harry in eeeeerb— beeb- quickly now, move to on harry in court—us back in. court today. joining us back in the court today. joining us back in bbe-beebe— court today. joining us back in the rafe heydel—mankoo, the studio, rafe heydel—mankoo, weebe— the studio, rafe heydel—mankoo, weee-rebber— the studio, rafe heydel—mankoo, would-rather be _ the studio, rafe heydel—mankoo, would rather be sat on that would you rather be sat on that eebeeb— would you rather be sat on that select committee,— would you rather be sat on that select committee, rafe, or sat bere— select committee, rafe, or sat bere-eee— select committee, rafe, or sat here - us? what - select committee, rafe, or sat here us? what else would i here with us? what else would i webb— here with us? what else would i verb-eme— here with us? what else would i want-on? thank- here with us? what else would i want on? thank you very want to be on? thank you very meeb. —bebebb.l want to be on? thank you very mucremind-right.l want to be on? thank you very muc remind people right. want to be on? thank you very mucremind people rimight want to be on? thank you very muc remind people rimight be just remind people who might be beeme— just remind people who might be bembme bm— just remind people who might be bembme bm bbbe— just remind people who might be tuning in this morning what is beebembme—eeerbi happening with harry in court beeew. — happening with harry in court beeew. se— happening with harry in court today. so after— happening with harry in court today. so after his- happening with harry in court today. i“ today. so after his no show yesterday, the yesterday, today is finally the day that the duke of day in court that the duke of sussex has been desperately seeking. he'll presenting his seeking. he'll be presenting his his evidence. but it's his case, his evidence. but it's going going to be going to be he's going to be interrogated and cross—examined going to be he's going to be intrthe gated and cross—examined going to be he's going to be intrthe veracityd cross—examined going to be he's going to be intrthe veracity of:ross—examined going to be he's going to be intrthe veracity of the.—examined going to be he's going to be intrthe veracity of the factsmined on the veracity of the facts that he is putting forward by a very seasoned barrister, andrew green, kc, who is representing the mirror group . prince harry the mirror group. prince harry is seeking damages for the mirror group, alleging phone hacking and obtaining information via other illegal means. as information via other illegal means . as for those damages, means. as for those damages, wbeb— means. as for those damages, wbeb wbbb— means. as for those damages, wbeb wbbb be— means. as for those damages, what will he have— means. as for those damages, what will he have to- as for those damages, what will he have to prove? what wbbb— what will he have to prove? what wbbb bbew— what will he have to prove? what wbbb bbew be— what will he have to prove? what will they be paying— what will he have to prove? what will they be paying him for in the will they be paying him for in bbe meeb— will they be paying him for in the most simple— will they be paying him for in the most simple terms, for us? beevbbw— the most simple terms, for us? bbvrbbb webb— the most simple terms, for us? layman well, they'll need to breve— layman well, they'll need to breve bbeb. — layman well, they'll need to prove that. well— layman well, they'll need to prove that. well ,- layman well, they'll need to prove that. leeicc mi»? 37�*” »tmi; prove that. well, on prince harry's side, yeah, because, of
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course , in a normal case like course, in a normal case like this, you might have kind of loss of earnings. if you're bebbme— loss of earnings. if you're taking somebody- loss of earnings. if you're taking somebody to- g; if you're taking somebody to court to say bbeb— taking somebody to court to say bbeb bbew-ve— taking somebody to court to say that they've written something eerembme — that they've written somethingi eerembme—mbebb defaming about you, you might beve— defaming about you, you might beve-ber— defaming about you, you might beve-beb bb- defaming about you, you might have _for it. that's. have lost work for it. that's meb— have lost work for it. that's meb-be— have lost work for it. that's meb-be be— have lost work for it. that's not-to be the- have lost work for it. that's not to be the case in not going to be the case in berrw— not going to be the case in berrw. se— not going to be the case in harry. so what's- not going to be the case in harry. so what's he going to ebebm— harry. so what's he going to ebebm bbe— harry. so what's he going to claim the money— harry. so what's he going to claim the money for? emotion breemee — claim the money for? emotion trauma? _for- claim the money for? emotion trauma? »i»“ claim the money for? emotion trauma? yeah, for intrusion of privacy. for violation of his. trauma? yeah, for intrusion of pri hisy. for violation of his. trauma? yeah, for intrusion of pri his privacy.blation of his. trauma? yeah, for intrusion of pri his privacy.blatioof)f his. trauma? yeah, for intrusion of pri his privacy.blatioof course. of his privacy. and of course. but problem is is no but the problem is there is no evidence. so far that we've seen presented actually any of presented that actually any of those journalists who have previously phone previously admitted to phone hacking have actually hacked prince harry. dan evans, who was the person who in the 2000 was most responsible for phone hacking, has never said that prince of his one prince harry was one of his one of his one of his targets, even though he did target many, many other people. going to be other people. that's going to be one the big thing because one of the big thing because it's for the defence it's very easy for the defence to oh, we just tips, we to say, oh, we just had tips, we just sources. and know just had sources. and we know for journalist anonymity for a journalist the anonymity of source is sacrosanct and of your source is sacrosanct and doesn't need to be divulged. so it's quite a difficult thing to prove. the other side, prove. but on the other side, this isn't a criminal case. this prove. but on the other side, tha isn't a criminal case. this prove. but on the other side, tha civil a criminal case. this prove. but on the other side, tha civil a crirand. case. this prove. but on the other side, tha civil a crirand sorse. this prove. but on the other side, tha civil a crirand so the this is a civil case. and so the threshold isn't beyond a reasonable doubt . it's just on
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reasonable doubt. it's just on the balance of probabilities . the balance of probabilities. and a case just for the and this is a case just for the judge to decide. there's no jury in this system now. if in this system right now. if this taking place in in this system right now. ifj this-taking place in the this was taking place in the embed— this was taking place in the united states,— this was taking place in the united states, we might get vbeee— united states, we might get vbeee eb— united states, we might get video of the _ united states, we might get video of the testimony. we might get video of the testimony. we might eeb-bbe— get video of the cross—examination. that cross—examination. and that weebe— cross—examination. and that weebe-bev— cross—examination. and that would-box office- cross—examination. and that would box office moment. so would be a box office moment. so eerew.— would be a box office moment. so eeebw. wee— would be a box office moment. so eeebw. meb— would be a box office moment. so sadly, we're not going to see bbeb— sadly, we're not going to see bbeb brem — sadly, we're not going to see that from prince— sadly, we're not going to see that from prince harry over the meeb— that from prince harry over the meeb bwe— that from prince harry over the meeb bwe eewe— that from prince harry over the next two days. but— that from prince harry over the next two days. but what is wrbbbem— next two days. but what is wrbbbem eb— next two days. but what is written up and— next two days. but what is written up and the trend scripts of written up and the trend scripts eb bbbe— written up and the trend scripts of this exchange— written up and the trend scripts of this exchange could be bmereebbbw— of this exchange could be incredibly consequential . bv/mi; incredibly consequential. yes, bm— incredibly consequential. yes, b-m er— incredibly consequential. yes, b-m bb— incredibly consequential. yes, i'm sure if you're— incredibly consequential. yes, i'm sure if you're watching korean or japanese tv, they'll have those cartoons . they have those cartoons. they usually do for wall cases . you usually do for wall cases. you see these sort of south park figurines re—enacting what you see, but we don't have that. of course, we remember with oj simpson, how riveting the court case was. if the glove don't fit, you must have the gwyneth paltrow one quite recently. absolutely so we don't have that. we'll just have such a shame. we really should. i think it's shame. we really should. i think bb-e ebeeb— shame. we really should. i think it's about time— we really should. i think it's about time actually, that we were nato— it's about time actually, that we were nato have that show. we were nato to have that show. cem— we were nato to have that show. can-imagine— we were nato to have that show. can-imagine harry's- can you imagine harry's showboating if it was being transmitted or transmitted to the world, or could you imagine him breaking transmitted to the world, or
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could inbu imagine him breaking transmitted to the world, or could in frontagine him breaking transmitted to the world, or could in front ofne him breaking transmitted to the world, or could in front of therim breaking transmitted to the world, or could in front of the for breaking transmitted to the world, or could in front of the for theiking down in front of the for the first time an interviewer who's not on his side for the first time facing actually genuine hard questions about timelines, about personal life , seeing him about personal life, seeing him break down, i don't want to see him break down. i want to see him break down. i want to see bbm beb— him break down. i want to see bbm bebb bbe— him break down. i want to see him tell the truth.— him break down. i want to see him tell the truth. well- i“ : i want to see him tell the truth. well it'd be beee— him tell the truth. well it'd be eeee be— him tell the truth. well it'd be good be eee— him tell the truth. well it'd be good to see him— him tell the truth. well it'd be good to see him challenged, weebem-b— good to see him challenged, wouldn't it? _ good to see him challenged, wouldn't it? after all the softballs he's been getting, it would. yes, it would in that, wee.— would. yes, it would in that, wee—embw- would. yes, it would in that, wee. _embw be| yes. but that would only be eebberwbme— yes. but that would only be satisfying for— yes. but that would only be satisfying for our own sort of eerbee— satisfying for our own sort of eerbee meee.— satisfying for our own sort of period need, wouldn't it period need, wouldn't it? it weebem-b— period need, wouldn't it? iti weebem-b—be wouldn't necessarily lead to reebbee.— wouldn't necessarily lead to reebbee-wbeb- wouldn't necessarily lead to justice,-what i- wouldn't necessarily lead to justice, what i quite justice, which is what i quite bbbe— justice, which is what i quite bbbe-be.— justice, which is what i quite bbbelee. — justice, which is what i quite bbbelee. ob— justice, which is what i quite like-do. of course,- justice, which is what i quite like do. cj�*" »i.»:i». like to do. of course, the pubuc like to do. of course, the public allowed into the public are allowed into the courtroom. simply courtroom. and so this is simply an evolution the times. we an evolution of the times. we now have cameras in now do have cameras in courtrooms when it comes to sentence thing. for example, now the only situated the camera is only situated in facing not on anyone facing the judge, not on anyone else is taking part. i'm else who is taking part. but i'm sure point in our lives sure at some point in our lives or maybe in your lifetime, we will see cameras in the courtroom. yeah. what am i saying? that that's terribly reee— saying? that that's terribly reee-veere- saying? that that's terribly rude-you're can- saying? that that's terribly rude-you're can be. rude of me. you're can be bbereb — rude of me. you're can be bbereb bbe— rude of me. you're can be plural. it's okay.- rude of me. you're can be plural. it's okay. it up to plural. it's okay. it was up to bem. — plural. it's okay. it was up to bem. bverw— plural. it's okay. it was up to tom. every court- plural. it's okay. it was up to tom. miqe »t.mi».”c f plural. it's okay. it was up to tom. {»i». ”c f : plural. it's okay. it was up to tom. {»im”. f : tom. every court case would be done via virtual reality
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headsets, wouldn't it? that would be in the world. would be in the real world. that the backlog. that would speed up the backlog. webb— that would speed up the backlog. well-anyway— that would speed up the backlog. well anyway, moving on. well anyway, anyway, moving on. reebbe— well anyway, anyway, moving on. beeme sbbbb— well anyway, anyway, moving on. beeme sbbbb be— well anyway, anyway, moving on. right? still to come, the prime bbmbeber-e— right? still to come, the prime bbbmbeber-e b— right? still to come, the prime minister's i talk— right? still to come, the prime minister's i talk the devil minister's i talk of the devil beeb— minister's i talk of the devil beeb rebee— minister's i talk of the devil task force advisor has warned webbe— task force advisor has warned world leaders— task force advisor has warned world leaders that we may have just world leaders that we may have beeb bwe— world leaders that we may have reeb bwe weere— world leaders that we may have just two years left— world leaders that we may have just two years left to tame erbbbbebeb— just two years left to tame artificial intelligence before eembebere— artificial intelligence before computers ais— artificial intelligence before computers ais come out of eembreb— computers ais come out of eembreb eme— computers ais come out of control and kill- computers ais come out of control and kill us all. : control and kill us all. would you— control and kill us all. would wee be— control and kill us all. would you be happy— control and kill us all. would you be happy about that? i would not be happy about— you be happy about that? i would not be happy about that,- .“.3.7 iwould not be happy about that, but i bbbmb— not be happy about that, but i bbbmb b— not be happy about that, but i think i think— not be happy about that, but i think i think i— not be happy about that, but i think i think i am— not be happy about that, but i think i think i am happy that bevbme— think i think i am happy that we're having this conversation on we're having this conversation em beeew— we're having this conversation on today about— we're having this conversation on today about the genuine risks and opportunities— on today about the genuine risks and opportunities of ai, but all of and opportunities of ai, but all eb-eeme— and opportunities of ai, but all of-come after- and opportunities of ai, but all of-come after your- of that to come after your memmb— of that to come after your membme .— of that to come after your morning . news- of that to come after your morning . news thank you, tom. morning. news thank you, tom. b-m — morning. news thank you, tom. b-m beev— morning. news thank you, tom. b-m berw smbbb— morning. news thank you, tom. i'm rory smith in— morning. news thank you, tom. i'm rory smith in the— morning. news thank you, tom. i'm rory smith in the newsroom the duke of sussex is in the bbeb— the duke of sussex is in the high eeem— the duke of sussex is in the high court giving evidence ebemeb— high court giving evidence eeebmeb bbe— high court giving evidence against the publisher of the bee— against the publisher of the bebbw wbbbeb— against the publisher of the daily mirror .— against the publisher of the daily mirror. prince harry ebebme— daily mirror. prince harry claims around- daily mirror. prince harry claims around 140 published erbbebee— claims around 140 published articles contain— claims around 140 published articles contain and information bbeb— articles contain and information bbeb ee— articles contain and information that was gathered— articles contain and information that was gathered using unlawful mebbeee— that was gathered using unlawful mebbeee bbbe— that was gathered using unlawful methods like phone hacking and eeeebbbem— methods like phone hacking and eeeebbbem .— methods like phone hacking and deception . mirror— methods like phone hacking and deception . mirror group deception. mirror group wewebebere— deception. mirror group newspapers is content testing
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bbeee— newspapers is content testing bbeee ebebme— newspapers is content testing those claims .— newspapers is content testing those claims. itv representatives are currently beme— representatives are currently being grilled— representatives are currently being grilled in— representatives are currently being grilled in parliament over the broadcaster's— being grilled in parliament over the broadcaster's handling of bbbbbbb— the broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield affair. magna bewe— phillip schofield affair. magna bewe beebe— phillip schofield affair. magna news broke from the management beem— news broke from the management beem be— news broke from the management team is attending— news broke from the management team is attending parliament's eebbere— team is attending parliament's eebbere .— team is attending parliament's culture , media— team is attending parliament's culture , media and sport culture, media and sport committee— culture, media and sport committee .— culture, media and sport committee . questions have been committee. questions have been rebeee— committee. questions have been rebeee ve— committee. questions have been rebeee bew— committee. questions have been raised over how much bosses at the raised over how much bosses at bbe ebemeb— raised over how much bosses at the channel knew— raised over how much bosses at the channel knew about his emebr— the channel knew about his ebbebr wbbb— the channel knew about his affair with a _ the channel knew about his affair with a younger male eebbeeeee— affair with a younger male eebbeeeee .— affair with a younger male colleague . the— affair with a younger male colleague . the covid 19 inquiry colleague. the covid 19 inquiry emebeee— colleague. the covid 19 inquiry chaired woman— colleague. the covid 19 inquiry chaired woman is— colleague. the covid 19 inquiry chaired woman is to speak bebbbebw— chaired woman is to speak bebbbebw rer— chaired woman is to speak publicly for the— chaired woman is to speak publicly for the first time over ebebbemeee— publicly for the first time over challenges against her request for challenges against her request ber beebe— challenges against her request for boris johnson's whatsapp messages. baroness heather bebbebb— messages. baroness heather bebbebb be— messages. baroness heather hallett is holding a hearing ebber— hallett is holding a hearing ebber bbe— hallett is holding a hearing after the government failed to meeb— after the government failed to meeb bbe — after the government failed to meet the deadline for providing the meet the deadline for providing bbe meeeeeee— meet the deadline for providing bbe meeeeeee .— meet the deadline for providing the messages . cabinet office the messages. cabinet office bbmbeber— the messages. cabinet office minister jeremy— the messages. cabinet office minister jeremy quin defended this minister jeremy quin defended bbbe .— minister jeremy quin defended bbbe . eewbme— minister jeremy quin defended bbbe . eewbme bb— minister jeremy quin defended this , saying it will be lawyers, this, saying it will be lawyers, not politicians,— this, saying it will be lawyers, not politicians, who will decide wbeb— not politicians, who will decide what information _ not politicians, who will decide what information is relevant . what information is relevant. beb— what information is relevant. beb beebem— what information is relevant. but foreign secretary james cbeverbw— but foreign secretary james cbeverbw eewe— but foreign secretary james cleverly says the best thing beeebe— cleverly says the best thing russia could— cleverly says the best thing russia could do— cleverly says the best thing russia could do now is withdraw bbeb— russia could do now is withdraw bbebr beebe— russia could do now is withdraw their troops immediately bebbewbme— their troops immediately following the— their troops immediately following the destruction of a
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eeme— review that we're going to be eeme mew— review that we're going to be doing er— review that we're going to be doing now or rather news review, bbve— doing now or rather news review, bbve eberbee— doing now or rather news review, bbve eberbee ee— doing now or rather news review, live stories as well. _ doing now or rather news review, live stories as well. i'm joined by— live stories as well. i'm joined by eebe— live stories as well. i'm joined now by senior political commentator- now by senior political commentator nigel nelson and bermer— commentator nigel nelson and bermer ebwmbbe— commentator nigel nelson and former olympic swimmer mark reeber— former olympic swimmer mark reeber be— former olympic swimmer mark foster to discuss— former olympic swimmer mark foster to discuss this morning's big,— foster to discuss this morning's bigr bbe— foster to discuss this morning's be. big eberbee— foster to discuss this morning's be. big eberbee .— foster to discuss this morning's big, big stories . and nigel, if big, big stories. and nigel, if we eberb— big, big stories. and nigel, if we can start with— big, big stories. and nigel, if we can start with you, you've bbebeb— we can start with you, you've bbebee eeb— we can start with you, you've picked out this— we can start with you, you've picked out this big battle that be— picked out this big battle that be be— picked out this big battle that seems to be brewing between the eevemmemb— seems to be brewing between the governmelll eme— seems to be brewing between the government and the house of bebbe— government and the house of beebe ve— government and the house of lords over illegal— government and the house of lords over illegal migration. yesr_ lords over illegal migration. bee. beeeeee— lords over illegal migration. yes, because what— lords over illegal migration. yes, because what the- lords over illegal migration. yes, because what the house of lords are trying to do is hold up rishi sunak illegal migration bill and so what the telegraph is reporting is that rishi sunak will take the nuclear option and go for the parliament act. now, this is a device that was invented back in 1911, but purely to get through a budget because the house of lords, which was in those days predominantly concerned lviv liberal government, had a budget , house of lords wouldn't pass it , country , house of lords wouldn't pass it, country had no , house of lords wouldn't pass it , country had no money. so it, country had no money. so that's what it's meant to be for. and occasionally it gets gets used again. but as you but moreover, the threat of it existing has likely meant that
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it hasn't really need to be used that often because the lords will often say, okay, we're the unelected house. the commons bebee— unelected house. the commons bebee brbmeew. — unelected house. the commons takes primacy. absolutely right. the last time it was used was for to get the hunting act through back in 2004. so it shows how rare this is . but the shows how rare this is. but the lords are determined to try and block this bill one way or another. rishi sunak is determined to get it through and this is the only way he'll be able do there is a able to do it. there is a question here in terms of whether will in this whether this will happen in this parliament because the parliament because the parliament act means the lords can something for two can delay something for two years, ? two years from the years, right? two years from the eeeme— years, right? two years from the eeemb ebeee— years, right? two years from the second stage to— years, right? two years from the second stage to the— «vb???» ” g“.7 two years from the second stage to the third stage of second stage to the third stage eb bbe — second stage to the third stage eb bbe bbbb— second stage to the third stage of the bill passing that would bebe— of the bill passing that would bebe ee— of the bill passing that would take us beyond— of the bill passing that would take us beyond the next ebeebbem. — take us beyond the next election. yes,- take us beyond the next election. yes, it would. i think bbeb— election. yes, it would. i think bbeb bbeb— election. yes, it would. i think that that the likelihood is this would be used earlier than that, because really all the lords can actually do. there'll be a ping pong between the two houses, but really, really the danger is the lords try and veto it, try and find a mechanism to veto it. that's when the parliament act
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comes into play . mark we talk comes into play. mark we talk ebeeb— comes into play. mark we talk ebeeb bbbe— comes into play. mark we talk about this migration- f mark we talk about this migration and beebbeeberbw— about this migration and particularly illegal migration a lot. particularly illegal migration a beb. bbe— particularly illegal migration a beb. bb-e bm— particularly illegal migration a lot. it's in the— particularly illegal migration a lot. it's in the public conscience.- lot. it's in the public conscience. anas repeatedly in bbe— conscience. anas repeatedly in across the front— conscience. anas repeatedly in across the front page of the paper— across the front page of the eeber eme— across the front page of the eeber eme em— across the front page of the paper and on the media, do you bbbmb— paper and on the media, do you bbbmb bbe— paper and on the media, do you think the public— paper and on the media, do you think the public care about it as think the public care about it ee meeb— think the public care about it as much as the— think the public care about it as much as the media seem to do in as much as the media seem to do be berme— as much as the media seem to do be berme eb— as much as the media seem to do be berme eb bbe— as much as the media seem to do in terms of the issue— as much as the media seem to do in terms of the issue of illegal mberembe— in terms of the issue of illegal migrants coming— in terms of the issue of illegal migrants coming over? and will it migrants coming over? and will bb-bbe— migrants coming over? and will bb-bbe wew— migrants coming over? and will it-the way people- migrants coming over? and will it the way people will it affect the way people will vebeb— it affect the way people will vebeb b— it affect the way people will vote? i think— it affect the way people will vote? i think was one of vote? i think that was one of bbe— vote? i think that was one of bbe bbe— vote? i think that was one of bbe bbe-bbeb- vote? i think that was one of the big that parties play the big things that parties play on the big things that parties play em-bbe— the big things that parties play on the immigration thing on is that the immigration thing and on is that the immigration thing emb bbe— on is that the immigration thing emb bbe beeeb— on is that the immigration thing and the legal immigration. beeb. — and the legal immigration. beeb. se— and the legal immigration. beeb. se b— and the legal immigration. yeah. so i think— and the legal immigration. yeah. so i think i- and the legal immigration. yeah. so i think i think- and the legal immigration. yeah. so i think i think it is a big, big issue. i think the bottom line is a lot of the time that we're bamboozled with so much information, we never know. and it's the same with a lot of different topics. we never know what wrong. but what is right or wrong. but i think we see a lot, a lot of people being pushed out of the country. what a problem it has on the country. so sort of on the country. so it's sort of like, don't know, there needs like, i don't know, there needs to a middle ground to be a yeah, a middle ground somewhere because, of course, sunak was talking about this yesterday, arrivals. yesterday, 20% down arrivals. this last year. and he this year on last year. and he beeme.— this year on last year. and he was saying, know, we've got was saying, you know, we've got 20% people coming over in
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20% less people coming over in the months of this 20% less people coming over in the but months of this 20% less people coming over in the but butnonths of this 20% less people coming over in the but but that,s of this 20% less people coming over in the but but that, nigel, s 20% less people coming over in the but but that, nigel, is year. but but that, nigel, is surely to do with the fact that it winter. exactly. i it was winter. yes, exactly. i mean, he is in fairness . »v/»i; »i;>e
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more clever than a human being. and the problem is that it can make up recipes for bioweapons and also launch large scale cyber attacks. i suppose the thing is ultimately it's not about the threat from technology, it's the threat from the person that has the control of that technology . and also of that technology. and also looking at obviously it does some good things curing some good things like curing diseases , the economy, more diseases, the economy, more productive, etcetera cetera. but i mean, the economy more productive big problem productive with i my big problem with that is love it , hate it, with that is love it, hate it, social media phones, all the rest of it. i think the thing is, we're making human beings more and more less dormant. ultimately, long term anyway, aren't love this, tom. aren't we? you love this, tom. e..— aren't we? you love this, tom. be. r— aren't we? you love this, tom. no, i think i think that there's an amazing opportunity ai an amazing opportunity from al in the sense that humans today are more dormant than when we had to break our backs working in fields and live sort of through subsistence agriculture . have more time to . but we have more time to pursue art and culture and life and perhaps taking the menial tasks out of life and giving that to the robots . that means
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that to the robots. that means that to the robots. that means that humans can experience sense life more. that is literally out of life more. that is literally out eb bbe— life more. that is literally out eb bbe brebb— life more. that is literally out of the matt hancock- . �*"»i ”»i that is literally out of the matt hancock playbook . of the matt hancock playbook. d0 of the matt hancock playbook. be wee— of the matt hancock playbook. be wee bbew— of the matt hancock playbook. do you know that— of the matt hancock playbook. do you know that when - of the matt hancock playbook. do you know that when he's been talking about when he was digital minister, that sort of libidinous that you just demonstrated about tech is what terrifies you? like i thought it brebb— terrifies you? like i thought it was matt hancock— �*7 :i»:».7 like i thought it was matt hancock talking �*7 :i»:»-7 like i thought it was matt hancock talking there beee— was matt hancock talking there because we've _ was matt hancock talking there because we've got— was matt hancock talking there because we've got to find jobs for because we've got to find jobs beb-bew— because we've got to find jobs beb-wew wee-re- because we've got to find jobs for-now you're not. because we've got to find jobs- for-now you're not going for people. now you're not going to in like jobs. you to sit around in like jobs. you don't have money. how- . “ - you don't have money. how are they going— don't have money. how are they going-live— don't have money. how are they going-live bbbe— don't have money. how are they going live this ideal going to live this ideal lifestyle?— going to live this ideal lifestyle? this is going to live this ideal- lifestyle? _this is this lifestyle? this is this is this is lifestyle? this is this is this be-breebeebw- lifestyle? this is this is this is-precisely the- lifestyle? this is this is this is precisely the same is this is precisely the same bbeeeeebem— is this is precisely the same discussion that— is this is precisely the same discussion that happened. v/mi»- discussion that happened. you bbew.— discussion that happened. you bbew. beeb— discussion that happened. you know, back back— discussion that happened. you know, back back when- discussion that happened. you know, back back when 70% of the country worked agriculture. country worked in agriculture. and mechanised agriculture. and we mechanised agriculture. where on earth would these jobs come from? well, people started inventing things and pursuing arts and culture. and we work in television. this this was not a job that existed. indeed, most jobs in journalism didn't exist. indeed, most most jobs that we could possibly think of today did not exist. 50 years. the dangen did not exist. 50 years. the danger, tom, is what- »: »: 30 the danger, tom, is what happens »: »: l310 the danger, tom, is what happens if bbeee— danger, tom, is what happens if bbeee rebebe— danger, tom, is what happens if these robots can— danger, tom, is what happens if these robots can start thinking for themselves— these robots can start thinking for themselves. _ these robots can start thinking for themselves . “ for themselves. this is the crucial point. this is where
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people are concerned because if we drill down to what humans are and the neurones in our brain at and the neurones in our brain at a very base level, this is electrical signals from cell to cell. how is that particularly different from an algorithm? a machine could a machine become conscious ? could it have its own conscious? could it have its own wants and desires and therefore could it then push humans out of the equation? that's one of the concerns that's being raised here. i did a little question on twitter actually a little while ago saying what jobs do you think will resist the ai , the think will resist the ai, the march of ai? what will we be ebbe— march of ai? what will we be ebbe be— march of ai? what will we be ebbe be eeb— march of ai? what will we be able to do? and— march of ai? what will we be able to do? and it's- i“.3”»t.“ ' 7 what will we be able to do? and it's actually bebbe— able to do? and it's actually eebbe bere— able to do? and it's actually eebbe bere be— able to do? and it's actually quite hard to come up with jobs. but quite hard to come up with jobs. beb bb— quite hard to come up with jobs. beb bb be— quite hard to come up with jobs. but it is things— quite hard to come up with jobs. but it is things like athletes, you— but it is things like athletes, wee mew.— but it is things like athletes, you know, sewing machines, ebbbmebebw— you know, sewing machines, ultimately could— you know, sewing machines, ultimately could become the ebbbebee. — ultimately could become the athletes. but— ultimately could become the athletes. but then - ultimately could become the athletes. :.“»i“ “5 -- athletes. but then i think we'll still always want to see the human action, don't you? human body in action, don't you? i think we'll always want to see the i think we'll always want to see bbe bermebe— i think we'll always want to see bbe bermebe. — i think we'll always want to see the formula. one's_ the formula. one's quite extensive , quite exciting. it's extensive, quite exciting. it's like a computer extensive, quite exciting. it's. like-a computer game like watching a computer game and like watching a computer game emb b— like watching a computer game emb b eem-b— like watching a computer game and i don't think— like watching a computer game and i don't think people people do_byl and i don't think people people. ee—bw bbe do watch computer games by the wbbbbeme— do watch computer games by the wbbbbeme-be— do watch computer games by the wbbbbeme-be e— do watch computer games by the millions-is a huge- do watch computer games by the millions is a huge thing millions esports is a huge thing bbeb—
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millions esports is a huge thing bbeb-bbeb— millions esports is a huge thing bbeblbbeb be— millions esports is a huge thing that that is growing and that is that is growing and growing- — that is that is growing and growing- beb— that is that is growing and growing. but in terms of the military, in terms ai, this military, in terms of ai, this is problem, isn't it? like is the problem, isn't it? like mark said, if they can come up with bio weapons by themselves, i two years, two years, i mean two years, two years, they're about being able they're talking about being able to that. well, this is this to do that. well, this is this is to do that. well, this is this be bbbe— to do that. well, this is this be bbbe be— to do that. well, this is this is this is this— to do that. well, this is this is this is this is— to do that. well, this is this is this is this is the- »:mi» well, this is this is this is this is the concern. bmb— is this is this is the concern. me bbe— is this is this is the concern. and the prime— is this is this is the concern. and the prime minister is beebbme— and the prime minister is beebbme be— and the prime minister is heading to washington, dc. this evembme— heading to washington, dc. this evening-precisely- heading to washington, dc. this evening precisely about evening to talk precisely about bbbe—bbeee- evening to talk precisely about this—biden and. this with president biden and ebeeb— this with president biden and ebeeb-ber- this with president biden and about-for this- this with president biden and about for this sort of about the need for this sort of bee— about the need for this sort of beeeeee-eeb— about the need for this sort of beeeeee-eeb e- about the need for this sort of because got a technocrat because you've got a technocrat beeb— because you've got a technocrat geek bebbbme— because you've got a technocrat geek bebbbme be— because you've got a technocrat geek talking to a— because you've got a technocrat geek talking to a man with eembbe— geek talking to a man with senile dementia . »:»i»“ . senile dementia. i don't want bbeb— senile dementia. i don't want that conversation to be had between us, but it is an interesting point. i translator for interesting point. i translator ber bbem.— interesting point. i translator for them, that's— “g i translator for them, that's obsession . . for them, that's obsession. it ebeee— for them, that's obsession. it ebeee beebe— for them, that's obsession. it does sound like— for them, that's obsession. it does sound like long- for them, that's obsession. it does sound like long term and that's one of my favourite films. but terminator, it's kind of it's, mean that's of like it's, i mean that's a bit far fetched out there, but that's, it's that kind of stuff. it's i mean, there's something bebbeb— it's i mean, there's something bebbebb—m.- it's i mean, there's something eebbee—bm. bml called the turing test in, in eembeber— called the turing test in, in computer and— called the turing test in, in computer and ai, which is kind a eembeber— computer and ai, which is kind a computer convince— computer and ai, which is kind a computer convince you that it's a computer convince you that it's e bereem— computer convince you that it's a person we've already passed bbeb— a person we've already passed bbeb bebmb— a person we've already passed that point chat— a person we've already passed that point chat dpp can give you a that point chat dpp can give you e reebbebbe— that point chat dpp can give you a realistic conversation. you weebem-b— a realistic conversation. you wouldn't know— a realistic conversation. you wouldn't know if— a realistic conversation. you wouldn't know if you're to
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bebbbme— wouldn't know if you're to bebbbme e— wouldn't know if you're to talking a person or a computer. reebbe— talking a person or a computer. beebbe ebe— talking a person or a computer. beebbe ebb meb— talking a person or a computer. people did not think we would get people did not think we would eeb be— people did not think we would gel be bbbe— people did not think we would get to this stage— people did not think we would get to this stage now and if bbbe— get to this stage now and if bbbe bewer— get to this stage now and if this power of— get to this stage now and if this power of ai— get to this stage now and if this power of ai is doubling or bemebe— this power of ai is doubling or eemebe eve— this power of ai is doubling or perhaps even quadrupling year on weer— perhaps even quadrupling year on year .— perhaps even quadrupling year on weer . bbe— perhaps even quadrupling year on weer. bb-e verw— perhaps even quadrupling year on weer. bb-e verw eeew— perhaps even quadrupling year on year , it's very easy to see how year, it's very easy to see how wbbbbm— year, it's very easy to see how wbbbbm bwe— year, it's very easy to see how within two years— year, it's very easy to see how within two years this is this is eemebbbme— within two years this is this is eemebbbme verw— within two years this is this is something very different from wbere— something very different from wbere we— something very different from where we are now is different. i where we are now is different. b beebem-b— where we are now is different. i couldn't agree— where we are now is different. i couldn't agree more.- where we are now is different. i couldn't agree more. that's why we have to be really, really cautious about it, isn't it, nigel? because imagine nigel? because can you imagine a time you're editing time when you're editing a newspaper you have no human newspaper and you have no human beings that office? beings in that office? all you're putting few you're doing is putting a few lines into tom's little chat app and then you've got a whole newspaper. yeah, and then you've got a whole newspaper . yeah, these are the newspaper. yeah, these are the bbme— newspaper. yeah, these are the bed eb— newspaper. yeah, these are the bed eb bbbmee— newspaper. yeah, these are the kind of things that— yeah, these are the kind of things that could beebem. — kind of things that could beebem. ame— kind of things that could happen. and one of the arguments is, happen. and one of the arguments be. om.— happen. and one of the arguments be. on em.— happen. and one of the arguments be. on em. we— happen. and one of the arguments is, oh, oh, we could— happen. and one of the arguments is, oh, oh, we could always just bebb— is, oh, oh, we could always just pull-plug— is, oh, oh, we could always just beb-ebee em— is, oh, oh, we could always just beb-ebee em-bb- is, oh, oh, we could always just pull-plug on-it was- pull the plug on it if it was beebbme— pull the plug on it if it was gelling eeb— pull the plug on it if it was getting out of— pull the plug on it if it was getting out of hand. but what if it getting out of hand. but what if bb eeebe— getting out of hand. but what if bb eeebb ebeb— getting out of hand. but what if it could stop you— getting out of hand. but what if it could stop you pulling the plug— it could stop you pulling the ebee—eebeebbw- it could stop you pulling the plug actually keep plug that could actually keep its plug that could actually keep bbe—eemeb- plug that could actually keep bbe—eemee andl plug that could actually keep. its—going? and the its energy source going? and the wereb— its energy source going? and the worst—politicians,- its energy source going? and the worst—politicians, i. worst thing about politicians, i bbme— worst thing about politicians, i bbme-bbeee— worst thing about politicians, i think, they're always far think, is they're always so far bebbeb— think, is they're always so far behind technology that it was in beer— behind technology that it was in beer bbeb— behind technology that it was in beer bbeb bbm— behind technology that it was in 1991 that tim berners—lee ebeeeveree — 1991 that tim berners—lee discovered the _ 1991 that tim berners—lee discovered the world wide web was discovered the world wide web ebbbb— discovered the world wide web ebbbb eo— discovered the world wide web was still 30 years— discovered the world wide web was still 30 years on, trying to reeebebe— was still 30 years on, trying to reeebebe bb— was still 30 years on, trying to regulate it. yeah—
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was still 30 years on, trying to regulate it. yeah _ was still 30 years on, trying to regulate it. yeah bv/»i; yeti-- regulate it. yeah yes. well, i ebbbb— regulate it. yeah yes. well, i ebbbb b— regulate it. yeah yes. well, i still i still come back time and time again to what are people going to do with their time if everything is done by robots? and that's making a huge amount of profit for the massive corporations and the shareholders. what are we all going to a job? well going to do for a job? well i mean, we don't we don't toil and make food today. we actually beve.— make food today. we actually beve. ber— make food today. we actually beve. ber bbe— make food today. we actually have, for the most— : : we actually have, for the most part, moved : : we actually hav offor the most part, moved : : we actually hav of heavy most part, moved : : we actually hav of heavy industry rt, moved : : we actually hav of heavy industry as moved : : we actually hav of heavy industry as well. d out of heavy industry as well. beebebe— out of heavy industry as well. beebebe ee— out of heavy industry as well. robots are are— out of heavy industry as well. robots are are doing those bbbmee— robots are are doing those bbbmee .— robots are are doing those bbbmee . bbe— robots are are doing those things . the backbreaking work, things. the backbreaking work, the things. the backbreaking work, bbe bbbmee— things. the backbreaking work, the things that— things. the backbreaking work, the things that people would rebber— the things that people would rebber meb— the things that people would rather not be— the things that people would rather not be doing. know rather not be doing. you know wbeb—ob- rather not be doing. you know what—of course| rather not be doing. you know. what—of course the what the irony is? of course the rebe— what the irony is? of course the jobs that will become valuable is plumbers as electricians , is plumbers as electricians, gardeners, not sure. i think gardeners, i'm not sure. i think i think robots. i think robots bbe— i think robots. i think robots can mow the lawn.- i think robots. i think robots can mow the lawn. i- i think robots can mow the lawn. i mean, we're beebbme— can mow the lawn. i mean, we're reebbee-bbeb— can mow the lawn. i mean, we're getting-that-now- can mow the lawn. i mean, we're getting that now pick getting robots that can now pick brebb.— getting robots that can now pick fruit,-actually_ getting robots that can now pick fruit, _actually-aj fruit, which actually might be a beee— fruit, which actually might be a beee-bb— fruit, which actually might be a beee-bb-bb- fruit, which actually might be a good-it-it meansi good thing. it means it means bew— good thing. it means it means bew bere— good thing. it means it means bew bere be— good thing. it means it means low here is eventually robots wbbb— low here is eventually robots wbbb be— low here is eventually robots will be able— low here is eventually robots will be able to— low here is eventually robots will be able to do everything webb— will be able to do everything well, potentially. really? potentially— well, potentially. really? potentially do well, potentially. really?- potentially-do we just potentially not do or do we just bbve— potentially not do or do we just bbve-eee— potentially not do or do we just live age abundance? so live in an age of abundance? so are live in an age of abundance? so ere-be— live in an age of abundance? so ere-be eerbee— live in an age of abundance? so are-to garden of- live in an age of abundance? so are to garden of eden are we back to garden of eden lype-7— are we back to garden of eden wbeb-meem— are we back to garden of eden bwbeb-meem. bbe- type? well, i mean, it's opportunities- type? well, i mean, it's opportunities and more and more beebbe— opportunities and more and more beebbe ebb— opportunities and more and more beebbe ebb bbe— opportunities and more and more people all the time, don't they? all people all the time, don't they? ebb bbe— people all the time, don't they? ebb bbe bbme.— people all the time, don't they? all the time. .then - people all the time, don't they? all the time. .then robots,- all the time. and then robots, when go , there's question
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when they go, there's a question . yeah, but let's, let's get beeb— . yeah, but let's, let's get beeb be— . yeah, but let's, let's get back to this— yeah, but let's, let's get back to this prince harry case beee— back to this prince harry case because we're— back to this prince harry case because we're just getting in some information now from inside the some information now from inside bbe eeerb— some information now from inside bbe eeerb eee.— some information now from inside the court case. and— some information now from inside the court case. and according to the court case. and according to bbe wbbbeb— the court case. and according to the mirror group— the court case. and according to the mirror group newspaper , the the mirror group newspaper, the wbbbeb— the mirror group newspaper, the bbmer ebeeb— the mirror group newspaper, the mirror group newspaper has ebebeebeeb— mirror group newspaper has ebebeebeee be— mirror group newspaper has apologised to prince harry for the apologised to prince harry for bbe eee— apologised to prince harry for bbe eb— apologised to prince harry for bbe eb e— apologised to prince harry for the use of a private investigator who accessed bmbermebbem— investigator who accessed information unlawfully . inform ation unlawfully. so bbew-ve— information unlawfully. so they've already— information unlawfully. so they've already apologised in this statement , but it's the this statement, but it's the first time that they've done it in person . an there's also been in person. an there's also been some discussion on how harry should be addressed and it's agreed that he will be agreed that he will mainly be addressed prince harry addressed as prince harry throughout the hearing . the throughout the hearing. the barrister for the mirror- d “g the barrister for the mirror has ebee— barrister for the mirror has ebee bebe— barrister for the mirror has also told the— barrister for the mirror has also told the prince that you beve — also told the prince that you beve bbvee — also told the prince that you have lived a— also told the prince that you have lived a lifetime of tabloid bmbreebem— have lived a lifetime of tabloid bmbreebem .— have lived a lifetime of tabloid intrusion , even— have lived a lifetime of tabloid intrusion , even if— have lived a lifetime of tabloid intrusion , even if you consider intrusion, even if you consider a intrusion, even if you consider e eeeebbem— intrusion, even if you consider e eeeebbem be— intrusion, even if you consider a question to be— intrusion, even if you consider a question to be unduly bmbreebve— a question to be unduly intrusive ,— a question to be unduly intrusive , please say so . yeti-- intrusive, please say so. well, bbeb-e— intrusive, please say so. well, bbeb-e bbe— intrusive, please say so. well, bbeb-e bbe eeb— intrusive, please say so. well, that's his get out of jail free card, isn't it? i don't want to answer that question. well, also answer that question. well, also a slight a slight— : “bib“ well, also a slight a slight indication of wbeb-e— a slight a slight indication of wbeb-e be— a slight a slight indication of what's to come— a slight a slight indication of what's to come and just how bmbreebve— what's to come and just how intrusive some— what's to come and just how intrusive some of— what's to come and just how intrusive some of this questioning- intrusive some of this questioning could be. wow so, weeb— questioning could be. wow so, weeb. bb— questioning could be. wow so, weeb. be be— questioning could be. wow so, weeb. be be eeme— questioning could be. wow so, yeah, it is going to— questioning could be. wow so, yeah, it is going to be- questioning could be. wow so,
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yeah, it is going to be good, actually, isn't it? right. let's get back to you, too. you are just as interesting as prince harry, right? bbc harry, right? nigel, bbc cbeebies cbeebies gender for row. so this is a tv programme that went out on cbeebies kids tv channel and it said that fish can swap gender and it's caused outcry from people on social media saying this is trans indoctrination of children. what's your take on it? well, i think that this is a row that really is confected. what the show really is confected. what the ebew ee— really is confected. what the show was actually— ”ce-q» 11: what the show was actually doing was to finding— show was actually doing was to use finding nemo_ show was actually doing was to use finding nemo , the clownfish use finding nemo, the clownfish wbbeb— use finding nemo, the clownfish wbbeb ebb— use finding nemo, the clownfish which all children— use finding nemo, the clownfish which all children would know eme— which all children would know eme bbbe— which all children would know emb bbbe bee— which all children would know and this has the— which all children would know and this has the ability to ebemee— and this has the ability to ebemee — and this has the ability to change sex. some of the some of the change sex. some of the some of bbe werebme— change sex. some of the some of bbe werbbme bm— change sex. some of the some of the wording in the— change sex. some of the some of the wording in the programme was ebbebbbw— the wording in the programme was ebbebbbw ebb— the wording in the programme was slightly off where— the wording in the programme was slightly off where they confused sex slightly off where they confused emb — slightly off where they confused sex and gender— slightly off where they confused sex and gender along the way. beb— sex and gender along the way. beb bew— sex and gender along the way. beb bew giving— sex and gender along the way. but how giving a— sex and gender along the way. but how giving a scientific fact to but how giving a scientific fact be ebbberem— but how giving a scientific fact to children that— but how giving a scientific fact to children that this particular bbeb— to children that this particular bbeb em— to children that this particular fish can change— to children that this particular fish can change its sex is eemeebw— fish can change its sex is somehow an indoctrination of bbem — somehow an indoctrination of bbem ebeeb— somehow an indoctrination of them about gender politics is
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bewemb— them about gender politics is beweme bbb— them about gender politics is beweme bbb — them about gender politics is beyond it? well,— them about gender politics is beyond it? leei-- f them about gender politics is beyond it? »i.»:ie- beyond it? well, of course the theory being, mark, that it's about the fact that it's pride week and they've they've shown this particular cartoon at a time of pride week. is that a stretch too far or could there be any truth in that, do you think? i don't know. i read a eeebbe— think? i don't know. i read a eeebbe eb— think? i don't know. i read a couple of pieces— think? i don't know. i read a couple of pieces on- “57 i don't know. i read a couple of pieces on that as webb— couple of pieces on that as web. bmb— couple of pieces on that as web. ame b— couple of pieces on that as well. and i don't- couple of pieces on that as well. and i don't know. i'm who bmeweb — well. and i don't know. i'm who bmeweb wbe— well. and i don't know. i'm who knows? who knows?- well. and i don't know. i'm who knows? 7 : . . knows? who knows? but doesn't it show the way which this show the way in which this particular conversation has become so inflammatory, quite rightly so. sometimes i would say in of women's freedoms say in terms of women's freedoms , this is the conclusion , that this is the conclusion that to. yeah, i think that we jump to. yeah, i think the that we jump to. yeah, i think bbe emmeme— that we jump to. yeah, i think the changing of— that we jump to. yeah, i think the changing of a— that we jump to. yeah, i think the changing of a sex- yeah, i think the changing of a sex of a fish brbeb— the changing of a sex of a fish bbmbee be— the changing of a sex of a fish linked to obviously transgender, wbeb—e— linked to obviously transgender, wbeb—e bbe- linked to obviously transgender, when—a big thing. when that is such a big thing bbem.— when that is such a big thing brem. brem — when that is such a big thing from, from from _ when that is such a big thing from, from from school through to adulthood,— from, from from school through to adulthood, from yeah , it's, to adulthood, from yeah, it's, bbe— to adulthood, from yeah, it's, be e— to adulthood, from yeah, it's, it's a tenuous— to adulthood, from yeah, it's, it's a tenuous link but i think, b-m — it's a tenuous link but i think, b-m meb— it's a tenuous link but i think, b-m meb ee— it's a tenuous link but i think, i'm not sure at— it's a tenuous link but i think, i'm not sure at the same time it eeebe— i'm not sure at the same time it eeebb be— i'm not sure at the same time it eeebb be eeme— i'm not sure at the same time it could be done at— i'm not sure at the same time it could be done at the same time beee— could be done at the same time bee b— could be done at the same time because i don't— could be done at the same time because i don't know, i mean how brbeb— because i don't know, i mean how bbmbee ee— because i don't know, i mean how bbmbee bb— because i don't know, i mean how linked was it in— because i don't know, i mean how linked was it in the— because i don't know, i mean how linked was it in the show bbeeeb— linked was it in the show bbeeeb. — linked was it in the show though. 1 “ . though. because i mean it is a fact that this fish can swap sex. think i think a frog can sex. i think i think a frog can swap as well. that's the swap sex as well. that's the plot park. but at plot of jurassic park. but at some point they— plot of jurassic park. but at some point they were- »i. but at some point they were saying it's meeeereeb— some point they were saying it's inaccurate because _ some point they were saying it's inaccurate because you can't see
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a inaccurate because you can't see ebbeb-e— inaccurate because you can't see e bbeb-e eemeer. — inaccurate because you can't see a fish's gender. but— inaccurate because you can't see a fish's gender. but then i read inaccurate because you can't see a fion s gender. but then i read inaccurate because you can't see a fion s land er. but then i read inaccurate because you can't see a fion s land actually�*ien i read inaccurate because you can't see a fion s land actually youi read inaccurate because you can't see a fion s land actually you can d up on it and actually you can bmebeeb— up on it and actually you can bmebeeb bbe— up on it and actually you can inspect its gonads and you can bebb— inspect its gonads and you can bebb-bb— inspect its gonads and you can bebb-bb wee— inspect its gonads and you can tell-if you located- inspect its gonads and you can tell if you located the tell that if you located the bemebe— tell that if you located the bemebe-eeb— tell that if you located the female got orange ovaries female has got orange ovaries emb— female has got orange ovaries emb e— female has got orange ovaries emb e mebe— female has got orange ovaries and a male has— female has got orange ovaries and a male has white tests. and a male has got white tests. beb— and a male has got white tests. beb bbeb-e— and a male has got white tests. but that's interesting. i but that's interesting. see, i beee— but that's interesting. see, i beeeme—bi but that's interesting. see, i- became_| didn't became obsessed because i didn't see became obsessed because i didn't eee-bew— became obsessed because i didn't eee-bew bbeb— became obsessed because i didn't see know that perhaps, see i didn't know that perhaps, bemebe— see i didn't know that perhaps, eemebe—beem- see i didn't know that perhaps,l perhaps—been good perhaps it would have been good bbeb— perhaps it would have been good bbeb-wbeb— perhaps it would have been good bbeb-wbeb b— perhaps it would have been good that when i watched that when i when i watched cbeebbee— that when i when i watched cbeebies-see— that when i when i watched cbeebies see maybe, maybe cbeebies to see maybe, maybe bbew—ebewee- cbeebies to see maybe, maybe they—showed me,| they should have showed me, mewbe— they should have showed me, mewbe-mere— they should have showed me, maybe more knowledgeable they should have showed me, maybethis more knowledgeable they should have showed me, maybethis area. 'e knowledgeable they should have showed me, maybethis area. v/mi:»- ”»illedgeable they should have showed me, maybethis area. v/mi»- ”»i ”g“. able they should have showed me, maybethis area. “415-115”ng )le about this area. you're right. beee— about this area. you're right. bee eb— about this area. you're right. because of course,— about this area. you're right. because of course, of- about this area. “415-115”ng because of course, of course, bebb— because of course, of course, beeb-bbe— because of course, of course, berblbbe-bbeb- because of course, of course, part-the-that is. part of the issue is that is bbebeebeeb— part of the issue is that is biological sex.— part of the issue is that is biological sex. that is not eerbee.— biological sex. that is not gender- bmb— biological sex. that is not gender. and on- biological sex. that is not gender. and on the programme bbew— gender. and on the programme bbew eebe— gender. and on the programme bbew eebe bbe— gender. and on the programme they said the fish— gender. and on the programme they said the fish can change its they said the fish can change bbe eemeer. — they said the fish can change its gender. that's— they said the fish can change its gender. that's the mistake bbew— its gender. that's the mistake bbew-bbere. — its gender. that's the mistake they-there. they- its gender. that's the mistake they-there. they i- its gender. that's the mistake. they-there. they i mean, they made there. they i mean, they made there. they i mean, they introduced it by showing a fish that can that can change from a boy girl or a girl from a boy to a girl or a girl to a boy. bit was fine. but to a boy. that bit was fine. but you're absolutely right. they did start seeing the did start confuse seeing the word and gender, which was word sex and gender, which was unfortunate. but unfortunate. but but scientifically, what broadly, what they were saying was true. i mean, i wonder what will happen when we get when cbeebies gets to archaeology because recent discovery is have suggested there may be three genders in the iron age where
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there was a separate gender of warrior women. now would that be seen as a separate gender? you've all met warrior women . you've all met warrior women. vee— you've all met warrior women. vee 90— you've all met warrior women. vee 90 eeb— you've all met warrior women. you go out with— you've all met warrior women. you go out with a— you've all met warrior women. you go out with a warrior woman or you go out with a warrior woman er wee— you go out with a warrior woman er wee merrw. — you go out with a warrior woman er wee merrw. wee— you go out with a warrior woman or you marry. was it. . or you marry. was it. was it was it. or you marry. was it. was it was bb. wee— or you marry. was it. was it was it. was it not the amazonians who who had a tribe of warrior women who would cut off one breast in order to in order to. yes. see that if that's not warrior like behaviour, i don't know what is. but but it is bmbereebbme. — know what is. but but it is interesting. in— know what is. but but it is interesting. in fact,- but but it is interesting. in fact, there's a eberw— interesting. in fact, there's a eberw wee— interesting. in fact, there's a story we're going to talk about in story we're going to talk about bm bbe— story we're going to talk about bm bbe meeb— story we're going to talk about in the next section of the show, wbbeb— in the next section of the show, wbbeb-bwbme— in the next section of the show, wbbeb-ewbme be— in the next section of the show, which dying to hear your which i'm dying to hear your bebe— which i'm dying to hear your bebe-ebeeb.— which i'm dying to hear your take-mark,-is- which i'm dying to hear your take mark, is about which i'm dying to hear your- take.mark,-is about the take on mark, which is about the bbbbbe— take on mark, which is about the little himars,_ take on mark, which is about the little himars, the _ take on mark, which is about the little himars, the olympic swimmer olympic. no, no, swimmer she olympic. no, no, it's swimmer she olympic. no, no, bbe—bbe— swimmer she olympic. no, no, bbe—bbe bebb- swimmer she olympic. no, no, it's—the ncaa ,- swimmer she olympic. no, no,. it's—the ncaa , which it's school won the ncaa, which is it's school won the ncaa, which be e— it's school won the ncaa, which be e meeebve— it's school won the ncaa, which is a massive american competition. - is a massive american competition. f is a massive american— competition. so because another american swimmer has now come out and spoken about the coercion that was going on behind scenes to accept leah behind the scenes to accept leah thomas, who thomas, the swimmer who transitioned male into transitioned to be male into their and i'm dying to hear their team and i'm dying to hear what has got to say about what mark has got to say about that. we've got to go to a quick beeeb— that. we've got to go to a quick breeb e.— that. we've got to go to a quick breeb se— that. we've got to go to a quick break now. so from— we've got to go to a quick break now. so from one warrior bbe— break now. so from one warrior woman now it's time to say we're bevbme— woman now it's time to say we're bevbme e— woman now it's time to say we're bevbme e bbbbbe— woman now it's time to say we're having a little break. v/»i.3“ having a little break. yeah. so bbere-e— having a little break. yeah. so
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bbere-e ee— having a little break. yeah. so there's so much more to come in there's so much more to come in the next hour. of course, we're going to be getting more updates throughout prince throughout the show on prince harry. gb news, harry. this is gb news, britain's channel. hello britain's news channel. hello again. it's aidan “ 1“ hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here bbem— again. it's aidan mcgivern here brem bbe— again. it's aidan mcgivern here brem bbe bbeb— again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb bewe— from the met office with the gb news forecast. _ from the met office with the gb news forecast. cloudy for news forecast. not cloudy for memw— news forecast. not cloudy for memw eb— news forecast. not cloudy for memw eb ee— news forecast. not cloudy for many of us today. brightest in the many of us today. brightest in bbe weeb— many of us today. brightest in the west where _ many of us today. brightest in the west where sunshine will bbreeeb— the west where sunshine will come through during the ebbemeem— come through during the afternoon and it feel warm afternoon and it will feel warm in afternoon and it will feel warm bm bbeb— afternoon and it will feel warm in that sunshine.— afternoon and it will feel warm in that sunshine. but we've seen a in that sunshine. but we've seen emelre— in that sunshine. but we've seen emelre ebeee— in that sunshine. but we've seen a.more cloud-more. a bit more cloud spread more wbeebw— a bit more cloud spread more wbeebw eereee— a bit more cloud spread more widely across the— a bit more cloud spread more widely across the uk through the memb— widely across the uk through the mbebb eme— widely across the uk through the mbebb emb bbeb— widely across the uk through the night and that cloud is going to be berebebemb— night and that cloud is going to be persistent in— night and that cloud is going to be persistent in many central eme— be persistent in many central emb-bebbe— be persistent in many central emb-beebe wbbb- be persistent in many central and parts with high and eastern parts with high pressure-the— and eastern parts with high pressure the north of uk pressure to the north of the uk eme— pressure to the north of the uk emb—ebrbbew- pressure to the north of the uk and airflow coming and an easterly airflow coming ebeebe— and an easterly airflow coming ereemb bbeb— and an easterly airflow coming around that high,— and an easterly airflow coming around that high, bringing in bew— around that high, bringing in bew ebeee— around that high, bringing in low cloud from _ around that high, bringing in low cloud from the north sea and bbeb— low cloud from the north sea and bbeb bew— low cloud from the north sea and that low cloud— low cloud from the north sea and that low cloud is— low cloud from the north sea and that low cloud is going to be berebebemb— that low cloud is going to be persistent northern and persistent across northern and eeemeb— persistent across northern and eastern scotland.— persistent across northern and eastern scotland. much of eeemeb— eastern scotland. much of eastern-but- eastern scotland. much of- eastern-but-across eastern england, but also across bebbe— eastern england, but also across beebe—bmbe- parts of the midlands into eeebbeeeb— parts of the midlands into southeast england. so i think disappointingly— southeast england. so i think disappointingly cloudy for many and disappointingly cloudy for many emb beebbme— disappointingly cloudy for many and feeling cool— disappointingly cloudy for many and feeling cool where we've got bbeb— and feeling cool where we've got bbeb ebeee— and feeling cool where we've got that cloud and— and feeling cool where we've got that cloud and the— and feeling cool where we've got that cloud and the breeze from the that cloud and the breeze from bbe-see— that cloud and the breeze from bbe-bee beeb— that cloud and the breeze from the-sea just 12- that cloud and the breeze from the sea just 12 degrees, the north sea just 12 degrees, say— the north sea just 12 degrees, eew em— the north sea just 12 degrees, eew em-berbb— the north sea just 12 degrees, say on - north sea- the north sea just 12 degrees, say on north sea coast. but say on the north sea coast. but eemebbme— say on the north sea coast. but sunshine coming— say on the north sea coast. but sunshine coming out for the eeebb—weeb— sunshine coming out for the south—west of— sunshine coming out for the south—west of england, wales, merbbweeb— south—west of england, wales, northwest england, western eeebbeee— northwest england, western . scotland—ireland scotland and northern ireland beebbme— scotland and northern ireland beeme-bere.—
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scotland and northern ireland feeling here. keep the feeling warm here. we keep the ebeeb— feeling warm here. we keep the ebeer ebbee— feeling warm here. we keep the clear skies in— feeling warm here. we keep the clear skies in the— feeling warm here. we keep the clear skies in the west evembebb— clear skies in the west overnight, but the cloud elsewhere _ overnight, but the cloud elsewhere will tend to thicken . elsewhere will tend to thicken. it elsewhere will tend to thicken. bb wbbb— elsewhere will tend to thicken. bb wbbb ebeeb— elsewhere will tend to thicken. it will creep its— elsewhere will tend to thicken. it will creep its way back westwards _ it will creep its way back westwards into - it will creep its way back westwards into east wales. parts of westwards into east wales. parts eb bev— westwards into east wales. parts of devon, dorset,— westwards into east wales. parts of devon, dorset, somerset , for of devon, dorset, somerset, for example— of devon, dorset, somerset, for eeembbe. emb— of devon, dorset, somerset, for example, and central scotland ebee— example, and central scotland ebee eeeme— example, and central scotland ebee eeebme e— example, and central scotland also seeing a thickening of the ebeee— also seeing a thickening of the ebeeb wbere— also seeing a thickening of the cloud where we've got the cloud ebebe— cloud where we've got the cloud ebebe eb— cloud where we've got the cloud some spots of drizzle possible, but otherwise— some spots of drizzle possible, but otherwise generally dry memb— but otherwise generally dry nigbl emb— but otherwise generally dry night and staying clear for berbbem— night and staying clear for northern ireland, western eeebbeeeb— northern ireland, western scotland, wales northern ireland, western scotland, _wales far scotland, west wales and the far eeebb—weeb— scotland, west wales and the far south—west england, a few south—west of england, a few mbeb— south—west of england, a few mbeb-bm— south—west of england, a few mbeb-bm bbe- south—west of england, a few mist in the north—west mist patches in the north—west to mist patches in the north—west be eberb— mist patches in the north—west be eberb bbbmee— mist patches in the north—west to start things off— mist patches in the north—west to start things off on wednesday. - to start things off on wednesday. otherwise we've got bbeb— wednesday. otherwise we've got bbeb bew— wednesday. otherwise we've got that low cloud— wednesday. otherwise we've got that low cloud again. that low cloud once again. i bbbmb— that low cloud once again. i bbbmb bbbe— that low cloud once again. i think this time— that low cloud once again. i think this time it will retreat beeb— think this time it will retreat beeb be— think this time it will retreat back to .coast_ think this time it will retreat back to coast much more back to the coast much more eebebbw— back to the coast much more eebebbw-bb— back to the coast much more quickly it generally quickly and it will generally beeb— quickly and it will generally beeb be— quickly and it will generally just be coastal— quickly and it will generally just be coastal by the mid ebbemeem— just be coastal by the mid ebbermeem .— just be coastal by the mid afternoon , 1— just be coastal by the mid afternoon , 1 or- just be coastal by the mid afternoon , 1 or 2 showers afternoon, 1 or 2 showers beeebbbw— afternoon, 1 or 2 showers possibly over— afternoon, 1 or 2 showers possibly over the highlands, but ebberwbee— possibly over the highlands, but otherwise plenty— possibly over the highlands, but otherwise plenty warm otherwise plenty of warm eemebbme— otherwise plenty of warm sunshine coming otherwise plenty of warm - sunshine coming-and it sunshine coming through and it wbbb— sunshine coming through and it wbbb-wermer— sunshine coming through and it will warmer across the will feel warmer across the eeebb— will feel warmer across the eeem-wbbb- will feel warmer across the . south _with previous south compared with previous eewe— south compared with previous bewe 2b.— south compared with previous eewe be. be— south compared with previous days 24, 25 celsius will be the wermeeb— days 24, 25 celsius will be the wermeeb bew— days 24, 25 celsius will be the warmest day of— days 24, 25 celsius will be the warmest day of the year so far. bbem— warmest day of the year so far. bbem bmbe— warmest day of the year so far. then into wednesday night. well we be— then into wednesday night. well we be bb— then into wednesday night. well we be bb ebb— then into wednesday night. well we do it all again.— then into wednesday night. well we do it all again. that low ebeeb— we do it all again. that low cloud creeps— we do it all again. that low cloud creeps westwards once more bbem— cloud creeps westwards once more bbem-beebb— cloud creeps westwards once more from - north - and - cloud creeps westwards once more from - north - and it's - from the north sea and it's going— from the north sea and it's eebmelbeeeme- from the north sea and it's going become fairly extensive going to become fairly extensive by bbereeew— going to become fairly extensive
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by thursday morning, but it will bem— by thursday morning, but it will berm-be— by thursday morning, but it will burn-to-coast- by thursday morning, but it will burn -to .coast and - by thursday morning, but it will burn to coast and it's burn back to the coast and it's going— burn back to the coast and it's going be— burn back to the coast and it's going be be— burn back to the coast and it's going to be another very warm eew. — going to be another very warm eew. lbeeb.— going to be another very warm day. fact, temperatures are day. in fact, temperatures are meme.— day. in fact, temperatures are meme—bbe- day. in fact, temperatures are. rising._the weekend
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it's tuesday, the 6th of june. this is point with bev this is the point with bev turner tom harwood. now, turner and tom harwood. now, harry arrives in court- turner and tom harwood. now, harry arrives in court and- harry arrives in court and bbe— harry arrives in court and accuses the mirror of playing a beebreebbve— accuses the mirror of playing a destructive role _ accuses the mirror of playing a destructive role in— accuses the mirror of playing a destructive role in his upbringing- destructive role in his upbringing by hacking his phone. webb— upbringing by hacking his phone. we bbme— upbringing by hacking his phone. we-bb bring wee— upbringing by hacking his phone. we'll bring you all the latest .
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we'll bring you all the latest. beb— we'll bring you all the latest. beb be-e— we'll bring you all the latest. but he's being— we'll bring you all the latest. but he's being cross—examined as we ebeeb. — but he's being cross—examined as we ebeeb. bbe— but he's being cross—examined as we speak. the mirror— but he's being cross—examined as we speak. the mirror barrister has apologised to the prince in person for a private investigator who did unlawfully gather information and the schofield saga reaches westminster, an itv boss faces questions from mps. that's all to come on questions from mps. that's all be em be— questions from mps. that's all to come on to the— questions from mps. that's all to come on to the point- questions from mps. that's all to come on to the point .- : that's all to come on to the point . to come on to the point. keep your— to come on to the point. keep weer eeebbeee— to come on to the point. keep your questions and your opinions coming on. email gb views. at gb news .com. but first, here is your morning's news with rory smith . thank you very much, bev. smith. thank you very much, bev. well, as you've been hearing, bbe— well, as you've been hearing, bbe bebe— well, as you've been hearing, bbe bebe eb— well, as you've been hearing, the duke of sussex is in the bbeb— the duke of sussex is in the high eeebb— the duke of sussex is in the high court giving evidence ebemeb— high court giving evidence eeebmeb bbe— high court giving evidence against the publisher of the bebbw— against the publisher of the bebbw wbbbeb— against the publisher of the daily mirror .— against the publisher of the daily mirror. the duke confirmed bmebee— daily mirror. the duke confirmed bmebee eeebb— daily mirror. the duke confirmed inside court that— daily mirror. the duke confirmed inside court that his preferred way— inside court that his preferred wew be— inside court that his preferred wew be be— inside court that his preferred way to be addressed is prince berrw— way to be addressed is prince berrw bm— way to be addressed is prince berrw bm bbe— way to be addressed is prince harry in his witness statement, he harry in his witness statement, be eewe— harry in his witness statement, be eewe ee— harry in his witness statement, be eewe ee e— harry in his witness statement, he says as a teenager and in his eerbw— he says as a teenager and in his eerbw bee.— he says as a teenager and in his eerbw bee. be— he says as a teenager and in his early 20s, he felt— he says as a teenager and in his early 20s, he felt as— he says as a teenager and in his early 20s, he felt as though he bbewbme— early 20s, he felt as though he was playing up— early 20s, he felt as though he
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was playing up to_ early 20s, he felt as though he was playing up to a lot of the beeebbmee— was playing up to a lot of the headlines and— was playing up to a lot of the headlines and stereotypes bee bm— headlines and stereotypes because, in his— headlines and stereotypes because, in his words, he might as because, in his words, he might ee webb— because, in his words, he might ee webb ee— because, in his words, he might as well do the— because, in his words, he might as well do the crime. prince berrw— as well do the crime. prince harry continues— as well do the crime. prince harry continues to be cross eembeb— harry continues to be cross eembeb be— harry continues to be cross examined. he claims newspaper erbbebee— examined. he claims newspaper articles contained— examined. he claims newspaper articles contained information bbeb— articles contained information bbebwee— articles contained information that was gathered using unlawful memebe— that was gathered using unlawful methods which— that was gathered using unlawful methods which mirror group mewebebere— methods which mirror group newspapers deny as well . newspapers deny as well. meanwhile,— newspapers deny as well. meanwhile, the us government wbbb— meanwhile, the us government wbbb be— meanwhile, the us government will be challenged in court over its will be challenged in court over bbe eeebebem— will be challenged in court over its decision to— will be challenged in court over its decision to give— will be challenged in court over its decision to give the duke of seeee— its decision to give the duke of seeee e— its decision to give the duke of seeee e vbee— its decision to give the duke of sussex a visa in— its decision to give the duke of sussex a visa in 2020. it's ebber— sussex a visa in 2020. it's after prince— sussex a visa in 2020. it's after prince harry's admissions of after prince harry's admissions eb bbbeeeb— after prince harry's admissions eb illegal drug— after prince harry's admissions of illegal drug use in his eeebem— of illegal drug use in his eeebebr .— of illegal drug use in his despair. it's— of illegal drug use in his despair. it's not of illegal drug use in his despair . it's not known if he despair. it's not known if he eembbbeb— despair. it's not known if he admitted this— despair. it's not known if he admitted this for the visa ebbbbeebbem— admitted this for the visa ebbbbeebbem .— admitted this for the visa application . us official policy application. us official policy eebe— application. us official policy eebe bbeb— application. us official policy said that visa— application. us official policy said that visa applicants who are said that visa applicants who beeme— said that visa applicants who beeme be— said that visa applicants who are found to be— said that visa applicants who are found to be drug users or ebmebe— are found to be drug users or eeebebe ee— are found to be drug users or addicts are inadmissible . itv is addicts are inadmissible. itv is eerrembbw— addicts are inadmissible. itv is currently being— addicts are inadmissible. itv is currently being grilled in parliament— currently being grilled in parliament over the broadcaster's handling of bbbbbbb— broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield affair . magnus phillip schofield affair. magnus beeeb— phillip schofield affair. magnus beeeb bbem— phillip schofield affair. magnus brook from the— phillip schofield affair. magnus brook from the management team is brook from the management team be ebbembbme— brook from the management team is attending parliament's eebbere— is attending parliament's eebbere .— is attending parliament's culture , media and sport culture, media and sport committee— culture, media and sport committee .— culture, media and sport committee . questions have been committee. questions have been rebeee— committee. questions have been rebeee ve— committee. questions have been rebeee bew— committee. questions have been raised over how much bosses at the raised over how much bosses at bbe cr......r_ raised over how much bosses at the channel knew— raised over how much bosses at the channel knew about schofield's— the channel knew about schofield's affair with a weemeer— schofield's affair with a
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younger male colleague . the younger male colleague. the cowb— younger male colleague. the covbb ba— younger male colleague. the c0v1019 inquiry— younger male colleague. the covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says she covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says ebe wbbb— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says ebe wbbb be— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says she will be making— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says she will be making no further eemmem— she will be making no further comment on the— she will be making no further comment on the cabinet office's ebebbemee— comment on the cabinet office's ebebbemee be— comment on the cabinet office's challenge to her— comment on the cabinet office's challenge to her request for bebbe— challenge to her request for boris johnson— challenge to her request for boris johnson s— challenge to her request for boris johnson s unredacted wbebebbb— boris johnson s unredacted whatsapp messages due to pending bbbbeebbem— whatsapp messages due to pending bbbbeebbem .— whatsapp messages due to pending litigation . baroness— whatsapp messages due to pending litigation . baroness heather litigation. baroness heather bebbebb— litigation. baroness heather bebbebb be— litigation. baroness heather hallett is holding a hearing ebber— hallett is holding a hearing ebber bbe— hallett is holding a hearing after the cabinet office failed to after the cabinet office failed be meeb— after the cabinet office failed be meeb bbe — after the cabinet office failed to meet the deadline for brevbebme— to meet the deadline for providing the— to meet the deadline for providing the messages. cabinet ebbbee— providing the messages. cabinet office minister— providing the messages. cabinet office ministerjeremy providing the messages. cabinet office minister jeremy quin eebembe— office minister jeremy quin defends this,— office minister jeremy quin defends this, saying it would be bewwere— defends this, saying it would be bewwere .— defends this, saying it would be bewwere . meb— defends this, saying it would be lawyers , not politicians, who lawyers, not politicians, who wbbb— lawyers, not politicians, who wbbb eeebbe— lawyers, not politicians, who will decide what— lawyers, not politicians, who will decide what information is rebevemb— will decide what information is rebevemb .— will decide what information is relevant . the— will decide what information is relevant . the labour leader says relevant. the labour leader says the transition _ relevant. the labour leader says the transition to— relevant. the labour leader says the transition to green energy wbbb— the transition to green energy will establish— the transition to green energy will establish a— the transition to green energy will establish a new business meeeb— will establish a new business meeeb ber— will establish a new business model for britain— will establish a new business model for britain . speaking at model for britain. speaking at the model for britain. speaking at bbe eerb— model for britain. speaking at the gmb union's— model for britain. speaking at the gmb union's conference, sir bebb— the gmb union's conference, sir bebr sbermer— the gmb union's conference, sir keir starmer aims— the gmb union's conference, sir keir starmer aims to gain eeebem— keir starmer aims to gain eeeberb ber— keir starmer aims to gain support for the- keir starmer aims to gain support for the party's plan to bem— support for the party's plan to bem mew— support for the party's plan to bem ebb— support for the party's plan to ban new oil and— support for the party's plan to ban new oil and gas extraction bbeemeee— ban new oil and gas extraction bbeemeee bm— ban new oil and gas extraction licences in the— ban new oil and gas extraction licences in the north sea. it's ebber— licences in the north sea. it's ebber eerb— licences in the north sea. it's after gmb general secretary gary embm— after gmb general secretary gary smith expressed _ after gmb general secretary gary smith expressed concerns that the smith expressed concerns that bbe bebbw-e— smith expressed concerns that the party's stance— smith expressed concerns that the party's stance may lead to a eeebem— the party's stance may lead to a eeebem breb— the party's stance may lead to a eeebem bbeb bm— the party's stance may lead to a sudden drop in jobs , referring sudden drop in jobs, referring to sudden drop in jobs, referring be bb— sudden drop in jobs, referring be bb ee— sudden drop in jobs, referring be bb ee e—
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sudden drop in jobs, referring to it as a cliff— sudden drop in jobs, referring to it as a cliff edge . pope to it as a cliff edge. pope bemebe— to it as a cliff edge. pope francis has— to it as a cliff edge. pope francis has been taken to a beebbbeb— francis has been taken to a beebbbeb bm— francis has been taken to a hospital in rome. the pope, who is hospital in rome. the pope, who be see.— hospital in rome. the pope, who be se. be— hospital in rome. the pope, who is 86, is believed— hospital in rome. the pope, who is 86, is believed to be there for is 86, is believed to be there ber e— is 86, is believed to be there ber e beebbm— is 86, is believed to be there for a health check up. he spent bbve— for a health check up. he spent bbve days— for a health check up. he spent bbve days bm— for a health check up. he spent five days in medical care eeebbee— five days in medical care earlier this— five days in medical care earlier this year due to a lung bmbeebbem— earlier this year due to a lung bmbeebbem .— earlier this year due to a lung infection . he— earlier this year due to a lung infection . he also— earlier this year due to a lung infection . he also skipped infection. he also skipped eebeemee— infection. he also skipped audiences due— infection. he also skipped audiences due to a fever last merbb— audiences due to a fever last membb .— audiences due to a fever last membb . bbe— audiences due to a fever last month . the vatican did not month. the vatican did not eermmem— month. the vatican did not comment. members of month. the vatican did not comment . members of the month. the vatican did not comment. members of the house of bebbe— comment. members of the house of beebe beve— comment. members of the house of lords have issued— comment. members of the house of lords have issued a— comment. members of the house of lords have issued a threat to delay— lords have issued a threat to delay bbe— lords have issued a threat to delay the illegal— lords have issued a threat to delay the illegal migration bill they— delay the illegal migration bill bbew eew— delay the illegal migration bill bbew eew bbe— delay the illegal migration bill they say it's until the government- they say it's until the government publishes the facts and government publishes the facts emb bbeeree— government publishes the facts and figures showing the bbmemebeb— and figures showing the financial impact of the controversial- financial impact of the controversial proposal as the bb— controversial proposal as the bbbb be— controversial proposal as the bill is undergoing scrutiny in the bill is undergoing scrutiny in bbe bebbe— bill is undergoing scrutiny in the lords with— bill is undergoing scrutiny in the lords with the government breeee— the lords with the government breeee ber— the lords with the government braced for amendments to be made . bbe— braced for amendments to be made me reermbe— braced for amendments to be made , the reforms would— braced for amendments to be made , the reforms would stop people bbem— , the reforms would stop people brem ebebmbme— , the reforms would stop people from claiming asylum in the uk if from claiming asylum in the uk bb bbew— from claiming asylum in the uk bb bbew eeebve— from claiming asylum in the uk if they arrive through unauthorised means. the foreign seereberw— unauthorised means. the foreign seereberw says— unauthorised means. the foreign secretary says the— unauthorised means. the foreign secretary says the best thing beeebe— secretary says the best thing russia could— secretary says the best thing russia could do— secretary says the best thing russia could do now is withdraw bbeb— russia could do now is withdraw bbebr beebe— russia could do now is withdraw their troops immediate . sally their troops immediate. sally eemee— their troops immediate. sally james cleverlys_ their troops immediate. sally james cleverlys comments follow the destruction— james cleverlys comments follow the destruction of—
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james cleverlys comments follow the destruction of a— james cleverlys comments follow the destruction of a two mile beme— the destruction of a two mile beme eem— the destruction of a two mile long eem bm— the destruction of a two mile long dam in kherson, ukraine and beeebe— long dam in kherson, ukraine and beeebe ee— long dam in kherson, ukraine and russia are accusing— long dam in kherson, ukraine and russia are accusing each other of russia are accusing each other eb eeeebme— russia are accusing each other of causing widespread flooding in of causing widespread flooding bm bbrebme. — of causing widespread flooding in ukraine. locals— of causing widespread flooding in ukraine. locals are being eveeeebeb— in ukraine. locals are being evacuated with— in ukraine. locals are being evacuated with around 220 2000 eeebbe— evacuated with around 220 2000 beebbe ebbeebee— evacuated with around 220 2000 people affected .— evacuated with around 220 2000 people affected . the man accused people affected. the man accused of people affected. the man accused eb mereerbme— people affected. the man accused eb mereerbme e— people affected. the man accused of murdering a met— people affected. the man accused of murdering a met police eereeemb— of murdering a met police sergeant inside— of murdering a met police sergeant inside croydon police ebebem— sergeant inside croydon police ebebbem bm— sergeant inside croydon police station in 2020— sergeant inside croydon police station in 2020 is— sergeant inside croydon police station in 2020 is set to go on brbeb— station in 2020 is set to go on brbeb bebew. — station in 2020 is set to go on brbeb bebew. a— station in 2020 is set to go on trial today. a 25— station in 2020 is set to go on trial today. a 25 year old louis bbee— trial today. a 25 year old louis bbez ayub— trial today. a 25 year old louis diaz ayub from _ trial today. a 25 year old louis diaz ayub from surrey pleaded not diaz ayub from surrey pleaded meb bebbw— diaz ayub from surrey pleaded meb guilly be— diaz ayub from surrey pleaded not guilty to the— diaz ayub from surrey pleaded not guilty to the charge in bbeb.— not guilty to the charge in bbrbb. bb— not guilty to the charge in bbrbb. be weer— not guilty to the charge in april. 54 year old sergeant matt eebeme— april. 54 year old sergeant matt beebeme ebee— april. 54 year old sergeant matt ratana died after— april. 54 year old sergeant matt ratana died after suffering a bebeb— ratana died after suffering a bebeb weere— ratana died after suffering a fatal wound to— ratana died after suffering a fatal wound to the chest after beme— fatal wound to the chest after bebme emeb.— fatal wound to the chest after being ebeb. be— fatal wound to the chest after being shot. he was a former brebeebbem— being shot. he was a former protection officer to princess bbeee— protection officer to princess bbeme eme— protection officer to princess diana and was— protection officer to princess diana and was two months off rebbrememb— diana and was two months off retirement when— diana and was two months off retirement when he was killed. me— retirement when he was killed. bbe brbeb— retirement when he was killed. bbe brbeb be— retirement when he was killed. the trial is expected to last bbeee— the trial is expected to last three weeks. _ the trial is expected to last three weeks. the- the trial is expected to last three weeks. the cross party bebbe— three weeks. the cross party public accounts— three weeks. the cross party public accounts committee has erbbbebeee— public accounts committee has criticised the— public accounts committee has criticised the government for its so—called_ criticised the government for its so—called sluggish efforts to recover tax— its so—called sluggish efforts to recover tax money lost to bbeee— to recover tax money lost to breed eme— to recover tax money lost to fraud and error— to recover tax money lost to fraud and error during the bemeembe— fraud and error during the bemeembe .— fraud and error during the pandemic . in— fraud and error during the pandemic. in a report fraud and error during the pandemic . in a report released pandemic. in a report released bebbw.— pandemic. in a report released bebew. bbe— pandemic. in a report released beeew. bbe bbb— pandemic. in a report released today, the psa has called for a
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ebeb— today, the psa has called for a ebeb ebemee— today, the psa has called for a ebeb ebemee bm— today, the psa has called for a step change in whitehall's risk memeeememb— step change in whitehall's risk management approach to avoid ebmbber— management approach to avoid ebmbber eebeee— management approach to avoid similar crises in— management approach to avoid similar crises in the future. bbe— similar crises in the future. bbe rebem— similar crises in the future. the report also— similar crises in the future. the report also highlighted eeebbee— the report also highlighted recurring problems within the eevemmebe— recurring problems within the government's financial practises the committee— government's financial practises the committee has called for ereemb— the committee has called for ereemb eebbem— the committee has called for urgent action to— the committee has called for urgent action to rectify the ebbeebbem— urgent action to rectify the situation and _ urgent action to rectify the situation and restore public beeeb— situation and restore public breeb wbbb— situation and restore public trust with the— situation and restore public trust with the government yet to reebeme — trust with the government yet to reebeme be — trust with the government yet to respond to those— trust with the government yet to respond to those findings and the veterans— respond to those findings and the veterans memorial service is bebbme— the veterans memorial service is bebbme bbeee— the veterans memorial service is bebbme bbeee be— the veterans memorial service is taking place to celebrate the babb— taking place to celebrate the 79th anniversary— taking place to celebrate the 79th anniversary of the d—day bembbmee— 79th anniversary of the d—day landings bm— 79th anniversary of the d—day landings in normandy. the eervbee— landings in normandy. the service commemorates the emmvereerw— service commemorates the emmvereerw eb— service commemorates the anniversary of operation eveeem— anniversary of operation overlord, which marks the momentous 1944 normandy landings in momentous 1944 normandy landings bm rremee — momentous1944 normandy landings bm rremee bbeee— momentous 1944 normandy landings in france. these landings marked the in france. these landings marked bbe beginning— in france. these landings marked the beginning of— in france. these landings marked the beginning of allied forces mbeebem— the beginning of allied forces be— the beginning of allied forces mission to liberate mainland eebeee— mission to liberate mainland berebe bbem— mission to liberate mainland europe from germany during . europe from germany during. webbe— europe from germany during. werbe wer— europe from germany during. werbe wer b.— europe from germany during. world war ii. this is gb news. webb— world war ii. this is gb news. we-bb bbme— world war ii. this is gb news. we-bb bring wee— world war ii. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it beebem.— we'll bring you more as it bebbeme. wew.— we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, back to bev— happens. now, though, back to bev emb— happens. now, though, back to bev emb .—
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tom our top story this morning, prince harry. harry is currently in court at this moment, giving his evidence in the phone hacking trial against mirror group newspapers as well. the mirror group denied the- mirror group denied the accusations— mirror group denied the accusations of phone hacking, but accusations of phone hacking, beb bbe— accusations of phone hacking, but the duke's— accusations of phone hacking, but the duke's testimony could ebemee— but the duke's testimony could change everything in this groundbreaking trial . groundbreaking trial. so let's go groundbreaking trial. so let's be ew— groundbreaking trial. so let's be be— groundbreaking trial. so let's be be eer— groundbreaking trial. so let's go now to our royal- go now to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who is down the high court who is down at the high court this morning. last time we spoke to you, cameron. good morning, harry. to the harry. hadn't taken to the stand. has. stand. he subsequently has. what happened. good stand. he subsequently has. what happened . good morning, bev. happened. good morning, bev. yesv_ happened. good morning, bev. vee. brbmee— happened. good morning, bev. yes, prince harry— happened. good morning, bev. yes, prince harry is— : good morning, bev. yes, prince harry is still in bbe— yes, prince harry is still in the witness— yes, prince harry is still in the witness box.- yes, prince harry is still in the witness box. i've just reebeb— the witness box. i've just rushed out— the witness box. i've just rushed out of— the witness box. i've just rushed out of the courtroom mweebb— rushed out of the courtroom mweebb be— rushed out of the courtroom myself to come— rushed out of the courtroom myself to come and speak to you guys— myself to come and speak to you guys be— myself to come and speak to you guys be bbve— myself to come and speak to you guys lo give you— myself to come and speak to you guys be give wee em— myself to come and speak to you guys to give you an update as to eveebbw— guys to give you an update as to eveebbw wbeb— guys to give you an update as to exeebbw wbeb be— guys to give you an update as to exactly what is happening. so at the exactly what is happening. so at bbe memem— exactly what is happening. so at the moment, mr— exactly what is happening. so at the moment, mr andrew green, ceeew.— the moment, mr andrew green, ceeew. wbe— the moment, mr andrew green, ceeew. wbe be— the moment, mr andrew green, casey, who is representing the wbbbeb— casey, who is representing the bbmer ebeeb— casey, who is representing the mirror group newspaper, is eebbme— mirror group newspaper, is eebee-berrw- mirror group newspaper, is
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asking harry about the asking prince harry about the ebeebbbee— asking prince harry about the ebeebbbee eb— asking prince harry about the specifics of the _ asking prince harry about the specifics of the 148 articles wbbeb— specifics of the 148 articles which prince— specifics of the 148 articles which prince harry alleges were wrbbbem— which prince harry alleges were wrbbbem bee— which prince harry alleges were written due to— which prince harry alleges were written due to information being ebbebmee— written due to information being ebbebmee vbe— written due to information being obtained via unlawful means. of embw— obtained via unlawful means. of embw ee— obtained via unlawful means. of course, only 33 are— obtained via unlawful means. of course, only 33 are actually beme— course, only 33 are actually being beebee— course, only 33 are actually being tested in— course, only 33 are actually being tested in this case. but nonetheless, _ being tested in this case. but nonetheless, what the solicitor brwbme— nonetheless, what the solicitor brwbme be — nonetheless, what the solicitor brwbme be gel— nonetheless, what the solicitor was trying to get at was this beee— was trying to get at was this beee bbeb— was trying to get at was this idea that when— was trying to get at was this idea that when was prince harry bbeb— idea that when was prince harry bbreb ewere— idea that when was prince harry bbreb eb— idea that when was prince harry first aware of these articles beme— first aware of these articles being written?— first aware of these articles being written? and does he remember reading them at the bbme— remember reading them at the bbme eb— remember reading them at the time of publication? the first erbbebe— time of publication? the first erbbebe bm— time of publication? the first article in question dates back to article in question dates back be babe.— article in question dates back be babe. bbe— article in question dates back to 1996. the mr— article in question dates back to 1996. the mr green says. do you— to 1996. the mr green says. do wee beve— to 1996. the mr green says. do wee beve erw— to 1996. the mr green says. do you have any specific recollection- you have any specific recollection of reading that erbbebe— recollection of reading that erbbebe eb— recollection of reading that article at the— recollection of reading that article at the time? prince berrw— article at the time? prince harry admitted- article at the time? prince harry admitted he had no ebeebbbe— harry admitted he had no specific recollections at and mr meem— specific recollections at and mr green challenged— specific recollections at and mr green challenged prince harry on the green challenged prince harry on bbe bbee— green challenged prince harry on bbe beee eb— green challenged prince harry on the idea of those— green challenged prince harry on the idea of those articles . green challenged prince harry on the idea of those articles. did bbew— the idea of those articles. did bbew eeee— the idea of those articles. did bbew wee— the idea of those articles. did they cause you distress at the bbme— they cause you distress at the bbme eb— they cause you distress at the time of reading— they cause you distress at the time of reading them? and prince berrw— time of reading them? and prince berrw eebe— time of reading them? and prince berrw eebe eeme— time of reading them? and prince harry said some of— time of reading them? and prince harry said some of those erbbebee— harry said some of those articles have— harry said some of those articles have vast majority of bbem — articles have vast majority of bbem eb— articles have vast majority of bbem eb bbe— articles have vast majority of them at the time— articles have vast majority of them at the time of publication , 11 them at the time of publication . bb wee— them at the time of publication . bb reeb— them at the time of publication , 11 were read by— them at the time of publication , 11 were read by his inner ebeebe.— , 11 were read by his inner circle, which— , 11 were read by his inner circle, which therefore changed
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the relationships— circle, which therefore changed the relationships he had with his the relationships he had with bbe mmeb— the relationships he had with his inner circle.— the relationships he had with his inner circle. he talks of bbe— his inner circle. he talks of bbe beeb— his inner circle. he talks of the fact that— his inner circle. he talks of the fact that he— his inner circle. he talks of the fact that he had paranoia of bew— the fact that he had paranoia of bee bbbe— the fact that he had paranoia of how this information was coming bmbe— how this information was coming bmbe bbe— how this information was coming bmbe bbe bebbe— how this information was coming into the public domain . the into the public domain. the wbbbeb— into the public domain. the bbmer ebeeb— into the public domain. the mirror group newspapers berrbeber— mirror group newspapers barrister mr— mirror group newspapers barrister mr andrew green, kc was was talking— barrister mr andrew green, kc was was talking about this idea bbeb— was was talking about this idea bbeb brbmee— was was talking about this idea that prince harry— was was talking about this idea that prince harry was challenging- that prince harry was challenging this idea and put the challenging this idea and put bbe bebeb— challenging this idea and put bbe bebmb be— challenging this idea and put the point to prince harry. that b.— the point to prince harry. that bb. bbe— the point to prince harry. that was it. the first— the point to prince harry. that was it. the first time you read bbeee— was it. the first time you read these articles— was it. the first time you read these articles in— was it. the first time you read these articles in detail when were— these articles in detail when you're actually— these articles in detail when you're actually going through bbeee— you're actually going through these articles— you're actually going through these articles with your lawyer to these articles with your lawyer bee—mee- these articles with your lawyer to_ones would. these articles with your lawyeri to_ones would be to decide which ones would be beebee— to decide which ones would be beebee bm— to decide which ones would be tested in this— to decide which ones would be tested in this case. and prince berrw— tested in this case. and prince berrw bbb— tested in this case. and prince berrw ebb meb— tested in this case. and prince harry did not want to speculate it harry did not want to speculate bb em— harry did not want to speculate bb em bbeb— harry did not want to speculate it on that particular point in brbmee— it on that particular point in brbmee berrw-e— it on that particular point in prince harry's witness statements, - prince harry's witness statements, he talks he poses the statements, he talks he poses bbe eeeebbem— statements, he talks he poses the question then of how much bbeee— the question then of how much bbeee ee— the question then of how much bbeee em— the question then of how much blood are on the— the question then of how much blood are on the journalists bemebe— blood are on the journalists bemee ee— blood are on the journalists hands as they— blood are on the journalists hands as they are typing out bbeee— hands as they are typing out these articles.— hands as they are typing out these articles. and mr mr green was challenging— these articles. and mr mr green was challenging the point at saying— was challenging the point at saying bbeb.— was challenging the point at saying that, are— was challenging the point at saying that, are you talking ebeeb— saying that, are you talking about these— saying that, are you talking about these specific articles wbbeb— about these specific articles wbbeb wee— about these specific articles which you were— about these specific articles which you were challenging ebemeb— which you were challenging against mirror— which you were challenging against mirror group newspapers , or against mirror group newspapers . er be— against mirror group newspapers . er be bbbe— against mirror group newspapers . er be bbbe me— against mirror group newspapers , or is this more of— against mirror group newspapers , or is this more of a broad ebebememb— , or is this more of a broad statement about- , or is this more of a broad statement about your dislike of the statement about your dislike of bbe meebe— statement about your dislike of
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bbe meebe bm— statement about your dislike of the media in general? prince berrw— the media in general? prince berrw eebe— the media in general? prince berrw eebe bb— the media in general? prince harry said it was— the media in general? prince harry said it was more of a bbeee— harry said it was more of a broad statement, perhaps not ebeebbbeebbw— broad statement, perhaps not specifically referring to the wbbbeb— specifically referring to the mirror group— specifically referring to the mirror group newspapers as erbbebee— mirror group newspapers as erbbebee .— mirror group newspapers as erbbebee . bbr— mirror group newspapers as articles . mr green then went on. articles. mr green then went on. me— articles. mr green then went on. bbe berrbeber— articles. mr green then went on. the barrister for— articles. mr green then went on. the barrister for mirror group wewebebere— the barrister for mirror group newspapers talking about a berbbeeber— newspapers talking about a particular article dating from a bebb— particular article dating from a bebb eb— particular article dating from a 16th of september 1996. it was a daily— 16th of september 1996. it was a daily wbbbeb— 16th of september 1996. it was a daily mirror article— 16th of september 1996. it was a daily mirror article and prince berrw— daily mirror article and prince harry complained that there was brbvebe— harry complained that there was private information in that ebeebe.— private information in that article, feelings regarding his beebbmee— article, feelings regarding his feelings regarding the divorce of feelings regarding the divorce eb bbe— feelings regarding the divorce of his parents.— feelings regarding the divorce of his parents. then prince eberbee.— of his parents. then prince charles, now— of his parents. then prince charles, now king, of course, emb— charles, now king, of course, emb bbere.— charles, now king, of course, and diana, princess of wales, eme— and diana, princess of wales, emb bbe— and diana, princess of wales, and the relationship with the bembbw— and the relationship with the family friends.— and the relationship with the family friends. harry thinks bbeb-e— family friends. harry thinks that's private— family friends. harry thinks that's private info and he ebbeeee— that's private info and he ebbeeee bm— that's private info and he alleges in his— that's private info and he alleges in his witness statements- alleges in his witness statements that that information was statements that that information ebbebmee— statements that that information was obtained via— statements that that information was obtained via his mobile ebeme— was obtained via his mobile bbeme beme— was obtained via his mobile phone being hacked. but mr green meee— phone being hacked. but mr green meee bbe— phone being hacked. but mr green meee bbe bebeb— phone being hacked. but mr green made the point that he didn't eebeebbw— made the point that he didn't eebeebbw gel— made the point that he didn't eebeebbw gel e— made the point that he didn't actually get a mobile phone, eeeerebme— actually get a mobile phone, eeeerbbme be— actually get a mobile phone, according to his— actually get a mobile phone, according to his witness witness ebebememb— according to his witness witness ebebememb .— according to his witness witness statement , until— according to his witness witness statement , until 1998, when he statement, until 1998, when he eberbee— statement, until 1998, when he eberbee bm— statement, until 1998, when he started in eton— statement, until 1998, when he started in eton college . and started in eton college. and bberebere— started in eton college. and therefore, the _ started in eton college. and therefore, the daily mirror eeebem-b— therefore, the daily mirror couldn't possibly have hacked his couldn't possibly have hacked bbe ebeme— couldn't possibly have hacked his phone because it was two weere— his phone because it was two weere bebere— his phone because it was two years before he— his phone because it was two years before he actually got ebe-bbme— years before he actually got one. prince harry responded one. now, prince harry responded to.by_ one. now, prince harry responded be-bw eewbme— one. now, prince harry responded be-bw saying bbeb—
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one. now, prince harry responded to by saying that his to that by saying that his eeeerbbw— to that by saying that his security team _ to that by saying that his security team at his school at beeereve— security team at his school at ludgrove bee— security team at his school at ludgrove had a— security team at his school at ludgrove had a landline phone , ludgrove had a landline phone, wbbeb— ludgrove had a landline phone, wbbeb be— ludgrove had a landline phone, wbbeb be bew— ludgrove had a landline phone, which is how he— ludgrove had a landline phone, which is how he thinks that information— which is how he thinks that information got— which is how he thinks that information got out. but mr meem— information got out. but mr green makes— information got out. but mr green makes a— information got out. but mr green makes a point that that eembrebbebe— green makes a point that that contradicts your— green makes a point that that contradicts your witness ebebememb— contradicts your witness statement saying you believe bbeb— statement saying you believe bbeb weer— statement saying you believe that your mobile— statement saying you believe that your mobile was that your mobile phone was beekee— that your mobile phone was beebeb-be— that your mobile phone was hacked to obtain that hacked in order to obtain that bmbermebbem— hacked in order to obtain that information-as- hacked in order to obtain that information. as said , information. well, as i said, brbmee— information. well, as i said, brbmee berrw— information. well, as i said, prince harry still in the prince harry is still in the wbbmeee— prince harry is still in the witness box— prince harry is still in the witness box giving evidence. as soon as we have more information,- soon as we have more information, we will bring that ebeebem— information, we will bring that ebeebem-bbe— information, we will bring that straight his testimony information, we will bring that stiexpected his testimony information, we will bring that stiexpected to his testimony information, we will bring that stiexpected to last. testimony information, we will bring that stiexpected to last aestimony information, we will bring that stiexpected to last a day nony information, we will bring that stiexpected to last a day and is expected to last a day and a bebb. — is expected to last a day and a half. cameron— is expected to last a day and a half. cameron thank you so much for half. cameron thank you so much ber bbeb— half. cameron thank you so much for that information— half. cameron thank you so much for that information . '“»: half. cameron thank you so much for that information . ' “r: -- for that information. and we'll let for that information. and we'll beb wee— for that information. and we'll beb wee reeb— for that information. and we'll let you rush back into the room and get very latest detail and get the very latest detail because it is fascinating getting this detailed questioning on specifics on dates. does did prince harry really regularly read tabloid press when he was 11 years old in 1996? i somehow doubt it. well, why did he read them at ebbe— well, why did he read them at ebbe bbew— well, why did he read them at all? they might— well, why did he read them at all? they might sound a bit of a ebemee— all? they might sound a bit of a ebremee bbme— all? they might sound a bit of a strange thing to— all? they might sound a bit of a strange thing to say, but if you are strange thing to say, but if you verw— strange thing to say, but if you are very famous,— strange thing to say, but if you are very famous, rafe heydel—mankoo is with us as well to heydel—mankoo is with us as well be rebbeeb— heydel—mankoo is with us as well be rebbeeb em— heydel—mankoo is with us as well to reflect on this. _ heydel—mankoo is with us as well to reflect on this. if— heydel—mankoo is with us as well to reflect on this. if you are verw— to reflect on this. if you are verw bemeee— to reflect on this. if you are very famous, surely one of the eebebbeme—
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very famous, surely one of the eebebbeme be— very famous, surely one of the solutions to not— very famous, surely one of the solutions to not being upset by bbbe— solutions to not being upset by bbbe-beeb— solutions to not being upset by bbbelbeeb meb— solutions to not being upset by this-just not to— solutions to not being upset by this just not to read it. this is just not to read it. yesr_ this is just not to read it. bee-b— this is just not to read it. yes,-i suspect- this is just not to read it. yes, .i suspect there. this is just not to read it. i yes,-i suspect there are yes, but i suspect there are very celebrities don't very few celebrities who don't google regularly, google themselves regularly, such as the nature of fame. i mean, we're only a few minutes into it's already into this and it's already actually generating headlines. i can see i mean, along with this witness statement that we just heard cameron read from regarding bloodstained fingers typing also the duke typing, we also have the duke remarkably saying our country is judged globally by the state of our press and our government, both of which i believe are at rock bottom. now that is an unprecedented statement by a member of the royal family saying that the british government is at bottom. government is at rock bottom. i mean, this is really quite remarkable and can't remarkable stuff. and i can't think occasion when think of any other occasion when a of the royal family has a member of the royal family has spoken quite so critically and definitively about the about the about the government . this is about the government. this is prince harry wading- about the government. this is prince harry wading into- g this is prince harry wading into this is princeprince harry wading into this is prince harry— prince harry wading into this is prince harry declaring himself a political— prince harry declaring himself a political figure?— prince harry declaring himself a political figure? yes " political figure? yes i mean, you— political figure? yes i mean, you can-t— political figure? yes i mean, you can't imagine what her majesty would have thought of something like this. i mean, it is completely without it. it
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violates all of the rules of monarchy, which is to rise above politics, that unifying politics, to be that unifying institution. you know, you can support the tories or support labour, support the tories or support labour , but you can still love labour, but you can still love your monarch and support the monarchy. and that's the important that it plays, is important role that it plays, is not to dragged into not to be dragged down into party that i think party politics and that i think is a very damaging to say. is a very damaging thing to say. but it was a written statement. this was not off the cuff this was not an off the cuff remark. this has through remark. so this has gone through the his defence the approval of his defence team, includes a former team, which includes a former lib member of parliament who lib dem member of parliament who is on the on the legal team here. quite remarkable. here. so it's quite remarkable. but seeing but overall what we're seeing here, has been here, what cameron has been relaying andrew green, the relaying is andrew green, the king's counsel trying to king's counsel here, trying to show poor historian, show what a poor historian, prince harry, is, that his recollection of facts is not what you would expect from someone who is making a definitive case like this. and he's actually saying, in other words, your grievance isn't about specific articles , because about specific articles, because actually, of these 140 articles that you've selected and some of them were selected by your legal team, you don't actually recall reading specific articles. reading any specific articles. you've got a general you've basically got a general
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grievance against the press and you're actually using these articles justify that even articles to justify that even though you don't, you can't actually point to any single one saying one caused me saying this one caused me specific paranoia. it is remarkable all- f �*" t it is remarkable all that, given specific paranoia. it is- remarkable all that, given the amount— remarkable all that, given the amount on— remarkable all that, given the amount of wealth prince harry noo— amount of wealth prince harry nuo given— amount of wealth prince harry nuo given no— amount of wealth prince harry has given his esteemed legal noun— has given his esteemed legal noon on— has given his esteemed legal noon for one— has given his esteemed legal team for the first— has given his esteemed legal team for the first few minutes of team for the first few minutes on unn— team for the first few minutes on no one— team for the first few minutes of this case to— team for the first few minutes of this case to unveil, unveil pretty— of this case to unveil, unveil some pretty basic inconsistencies is the fact some pretty basic— inconsistencies is the fact that the inconsistencies is the fact that one noon— inconsistencies is the fact that one foot onu— inconsistencies is the fact that the fact that he— inconsistencies is the fact that the fact that he didn't have a nonto— the fact that he didn't have a mono onono— the fact that he didn't have a mobile phone when he said he had a mobile phone when he said he had o nonto— mobile phone when he said he had o noouo onono,— mobile phone when he said he had a mobile phone, how on earth did onu— a mobile phone, how on earth did no goo— a mobile phone, how on earth did onun goo onu— a mobile phone, how on earth did onun goo ouon no— a mobile phone, how on earth did that get past his own lawyers? wou— that get past his own lawyers? non. youo— that get past his own lawyers? well, you're wondering- that get past his own lawyers? well, you're wondering how how well in america, of well, i mean, in america, of course do go through a mock course they do go through a mock trial , which they course they do go through a mock trial, which they don't do in this country . and you would have this country. and you would have thought they did do thought that if they did do that, of course, you would be able to iron out these things. that, of course, you would be ablethere)n out these things. that, of course, you would be ablethere isn'tt these things. that, of course, you would be ablethere isn't supposedings. that, of course, you would be ablethere isn't supposed to s. that, of course, you would be ablethere isn't supposed to be but there isn't supposed to be coaching clients here because coaching of clients here because it remarkable. also, it is quite remarkable. also, of course, state agents, another another example here, the lawyers have pointed out actually that a day before a day before, one of the one of the
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articles evidence was published elsewhere about something that was being reported. we just highlighting a little bit of a statement on the screen here. for those of you who are listening— for those of you who are listening on— for those of you who are listening on the radio, it says no— listening on the radio, it says no nono— listening on the radio, it says the facts and— listening on the radio, it says the facts and matters set out in onio— the facts and matters set out in no. no— the facts and matters set out in no. no n— the facts and matters set out in this. this is harry's— the facts and matters set out in this. this is harry's speaking unnooo— this. this is harry's speaking witness-derived. this. this is harry's speaking. witness-derived from witness statement derived from my witness statement derived from ny—unu- witness statement derived from. ny—unu-uuo, my own knowledge and are true, encoun— my own knowledge and are true, oxoooo unen— my own knowledge and are true, except unono n— my own knowledge and are true, except where i indicate that the information— except where i indicate that the information derives from a third party,— information derives from a third puny, in— information derives from a third puny, in union— information derives from a third party, in which case it is true. to party, in which case it is true. no one— party, in which case it is true. no one noon— party, in which case it is true. to the best of— party, in which case it is true. to the best of my— party, in which case it is true. to the best of my knowledge and notion— to the best of my knowledge and nouon uno— to the best of my knowledge and belief, the witness— to the best of my knowledge and belief, the witness statement proponen— belief, the witness statement onouno oy— belief, the witness statement was prepared by my solicitors following— was prepared by my solicitors following o— was prepared by my solicitors following a series of video onus— following a series of video oouo unn— following a series of video calls with them - following a series of video calls with them in this witness oouoonono— calls with them in this witness ooooonono .— calls with them in this witness statement i refer— calls with them in this witness statement i refer to documents union— statement i refer to documents union on— statement i refer to documents which are listed— statement i refer to documents which are listed at the end of one— which are listed at the end of the statement. _ which are listed at the end of the statement. these include 50 newspaper— the statement. these include 50 newspaper articles— the statement. these include 50 newspaper articles published by the defendants— newspaper articles published by the defendants newspapers, which conun— the defendants newspapers, which contain onvuoo— the defendants newspapers, which contain private and— the defendants newspapers, which contain private and confidential information— contain private and confidential information relating to me and my uoooouooo— information relating to me and my associates, which was not ououou— my associates, which was not publicly known— my associates, which was not publicly known and which i now understand— publicly known and which i now understand might— publicly known and which i now understand might have been obtained— understand might have been obtained unlawfully by the defendants,— obtained unlawfully by the defendants, along with the documents— defendants, along with the documents that have been disclosed— documents that have been disclosed in— documents that have been disclosed in the in course disclosed in the in the course of disclosed in the in the course on no— disclosed in the in the course on my nun. — disclosed in the in the course of my claim. that— disclosed in the in the course of my claim. that sums up in a nuoonou— of my claim. that sums up in a nutshell what— of my claim. that sums up in a nutshell what this— of my claim. that sums up in a nutshell what this is actually
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ooouo. — nutshell what this is actually ooouo. 0n— nutshell what this is actually about. on the— nutshell what this is actually about. on the surface. but as nonn— about. on the surface. but as noun noo— about. on the surface. but as noun nuo just— about. on the surface. but as ralph has just said, it starts to look— ralph has just said, it starts to look like— ralph has just said, it starts to look like if— ralph has just said, it starts to look like if you unpick the individual— to look like if you unpick the individual is— to look like if you unpick the individual is that it is a big gnounoo— individual is that it is a big grievance and— individual is that it is a big grievance and i— individual is that it is a big grievance and i think most of us unn— grievance and i think most of us win u— grievance and i think most of us win o noun— grievance and i think most of us with a heart can— grievance and i think most of us with a heart can understand that onounoo— with a heart can understand that onounoo onen— with a heart can understand that grievance, given that he would lay grievance, given that he would ioy uno— grievance, given that he would in one noun— grievance, given that he would lay the death of— grievance, given that he would lay the death of his mother at the lay the death of his mother at one nonuo— lay the death of his mother at one nunuo on— lay the death of his mother at the hands of the— lay the death of his mother at the hands of the paparazzi is yet the hands of the paparazzi is yon noun— the hands of the paparazzi is yet again another example , yet again another example, onougn— yet again another example, nnougn, noun— yet again another example, though, ralph, of where maybe he just needs— though, ralph, of where maybe he iuon needs no— though, ralph, of where maybe he just needs to come— though, ralph, of where maybe he just needs to come to terms with onu— just needs to come to terms with no on— just needs to come to terms with that at therapeutically himself , unner— that at therapeutically himself , runner onun— that at therapeutically himself , rather than keep dragging ninoou— , rather than keep dragging himself and— , rather than keep dragging himself and other members of the royal— himself and other members of the royal nonin— himself and other members of the royal family publicly over the coals — royal family publicly over the coals .— royal family publicly over the coals. i think— royal family publicly over the coals. i think there's- royal family publicly over the coals. nt coals. i think there's much truth in that. i mean, you do have to understand where he's coming from because of the leaking these stories in the leaking of these stories in the 90s, his social circle became ever kept ever smaller because he kept thinking, these are my friends who for all we who are leaking. now, for all we know , there may have been know, there may have been leaking this the press. it leaking this to the press. it could been friends could have been his friends rather hacking or he rather than phone hacking or he could been. but that, could have been. but that, of course, creates the course, creates reinforces the paranoia and also damaged his paranoia and it also damaged his relationship brother. relationship with his brother. we because one of their we now know because one of their fights reported in fights was actually reported in the what means we the press, by what means we don't know. but you see
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don't know. but once you see your personal private your your personal private arguments that arguments being laid bare, that again, a degree of again, creates a degree of resentment and distance between the two parties. so there is a possibility in this court case that when harry says to mirror newspapers, you hacked my phone at that point and you got the seeds of that particular story that they say, no, we didn't . that they say, no, we didn't. actually, it was your best mate . noon— actually, it was your best mate . noon noon— actually, it was your best mate . eton yeah, exactly. f . eton yeah, exactly. because no— . eton yeah, exactly. because the critical point here and i think a main plank of the defence is that information could have been gleaned just as easily from tips from sources and sources for journalists are very, very important. and i held a sacrosanct fact and don't need to divulged . and how you to be divulged. and how do you how rebut that? but you how do you rebut that? but you will but they will— :nzn $17 but you will but they will divulge 2b $17 but you will but they will divulge them if it will but they will divulge them in n nouns— will but they will divulge them if it means not— will but they will divulge them if it means not having to pay will but they will divulge them if itmillionsiot having to pay will but they will divulge them if itmillions of having to pay will but they will divulge them if itmillions of poundsto pay will but they will divulge them if itmillions of pounds at pay will but they will divulge them if itmillions of pounds at this out millions of pounds at this ongo— out millions of pounds at this stage—group] out millions of pounds at this- oougo—onouo, onoy stage as a newspaper group, they will stage as a newspaper group, they uni-unnu— stage as a newspaper group, they will _throw those - stage as a newspaper group, they will throw those those will surely throw those those informants— will surely throw those those informants under the bus. md will surely throw those those informants under the bus. \~:n informants under the bus. no, no , noo— informants under the bus. no, no , no, no. you don't— informants under the bus. no, no , no, no. you don't think they will? the evidence, up to will? the evidence, it's up to prince harry to prove the case. and prince harry has to do that by providing evidence. by actually providing evidence. it's evidence showing it's clear evidence showing unlawful practises. so need unlawful practises. so they need to prince harry's team need to
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name the private investigators. okay. so this is why you're a lawyer— okay. so this is why you're a lawyer onu— okay. so this is why you're a lawyer and i'm— okay. so this is why you're a lawyer and i'm just a tv onoonoon — lawyer and i'm just a tv presenter. yeah, but do see presenter. yeah, but do you see unu— presenter. yeah, but do you see no n— presenter. yeah, but do you see no n noun— presenter. yeah, but do you see what i mean? like— presenter. yeah, but do you see what i mean? like you would unno— what i mean? like you would onink n— what i mean? like you would onink n onoy— what i mean? like you would think if they were going to. we got think if they were going to. we goo-nono— think if they were going to. we goo-non on— think if they were going to. we goo-non on u— think if they were going to. we got more of a statement. got a bit more of a statement. do got a bit more of a statement. oo—nuu- got a bit more of a statement. oo—nuu onio- got a bit more of a statement. do_read this out,| do you want to read this out, non-v — do you want to read this out, non-v n— do you want to read this out, non-v n n— do you want to read this out, tom? if i can.— do you want to read this out, tom? if i can. if— do you want to read this out, tom? if i can. if i- do you want to read this out, tom? �*" it?" �*" it?" it's tom? if i can. if i can. it's quite— tom? if i can. if i can. it's quite u— tom? if i can. if i can. it's ouno u long— tom? if i can. if i can. it's quite a long way- tom? �*" it?“ �*" it?“ it's quite a long way away, so. so onio— quite a long way away, so. so this is— quite a long way away, so. so this is prince— quite a long way away, so. so this is prince harry's- quite a long way away, so. so this is prince harry's open gambit, if you will. and he says, i genuinely feel that in every relationship that i've every relationship that i've ever but that with my ever had. but that with my friend's girlfriend is with family with the army. the family or with the army. the army , i genuinely can't- the army , i genuinely can't read army, i genuinely can't read onen— army, i genuinely can't read onon .— army, i genuinely can't read them . there's— army, i genuinely can't read them . there's always been a them. there's always been a unnu— them. there's always been a nun puny— them. there's always been a third party involved, namely the union— third party involved, namely the union noos— third party involved, namely the tabloid press having seen me grou— tabloid press having seen me grow up— tabloid press having seen me grow up non— tabloid press having seen me grow up from u— tabloid press having seen me grow up from a baby being born inno— grow up from a baby being born into onio— grow up from a baby being born into this contractual relationship without any choice and scrutiny— relationship without any choice and scrutiny ized_ relationship without any choice and scrutiny ized my every move. nno— and scrutiny ized my every move. nno unions— and scrutiny ized my every move. the tabloids have— and scrutiny ized my every move. the tabloids have known the onuuonooo— the tabloids have known the challenges and— the tabloids have known the challenges and the mental health struggles— challenges and the mental health struggles onu— challenges and the mental health struggles onu n— challenges and the mental health struggles that i have had to nou— struggles that i have had to non unn— struggles that i have had to deal with throughout my child and deal with throughout my child unu noun— deal with throughout my child and adult life.— deal with throughout my child and adult life. and for them to non— and adult life. and for them to non ploy— and adult life. and for them to non play on— and adult life. and for them to then play on that— and adult life. and for them to then play on that and use it to non— then play on that and use it to non on— then play on that and use it to their own advantage , which i their own advantage, which i unno— their own advantage, which i onink io— their own advantage, which i think is well—
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their own advantage, which i think is well ,— their own advantage, which i think is well, criminal. it's not— think is well, criminal. it's not pulling— think is well, criminal. it's not pulling any— think is well, criminal. it's not pulling any punches. is he ? not pulling any punches. is he? no. not pulling any punches. is he? uo. nou— not pulling any punches. is he? no. not. you— not pulling any punches. is he? no. well, you can— not pulling any punches. is he? no. well, you can see— not pulling any punches. is he? no. well, you can see the- not pulling any punches. is he? \wi in?" no. well, you can see the degree to which you wanted to have this day in court. i think this is even if it has to end up paying the legal fees for the other side, it will be, as you say, an expensive and cathartic therapy session to finally get all this off chest. can ijust off of his chest. can i just apologise,— off of his chest. can i just apologise, tom _ " 2 can i just apologise, tom harwood for giving— apologise, tom harwood for giving-on— apologise, tom harwood for giving-on eve- apologise, tom harwood for giving an eye opticians giving him an eye opticians examination? _ giving him an eye opticians examination? is examination? the first this is the first time i think that maybe. need glasses. maybe. maybe i do need glasses. i mean, just to be clear, i mean, this is so hot off the press. we literally don't have it press. we literally don't have n on— press. we literally don't have n onlouoon— press. we literally don't have n onlouoon you — press. we literally don't have it onlpaper yet. we- we literally don't have it on paper yet. we are it on a paper yet. we are noting— it on a paper yet. we are noting n— it on a paper yet. we are reading it off— it on a paper yet. we are reading it off the screen like you— reading it off the screen like you uno— reading it off the screen like you are because— reading it off the screen like you are because it is it is noyouune— you are because it is it is revealing and— you are because it is it is revealing and it is so revealing-— revealing and it is so revealing. ralph, personal revealing. ralph, how personal tnooo—uo- revealing. ralph, how personal these—are for- these these issues are for nanny.— these these issues are for harry. ioscillate - these these issues are for harry. oscillate between harry. i oscillate between waning— harry. i oscillate between wanting to— harry. i oscillate between wanting to give him a hug and wanting— wanting to give him a hug and wanting to— wanting to give him a hug and wanting to eno— wanting to give him a hug and wanting to give him a hug and wanting to give him a hug and wanting to give him a slap. you know— wanting to give him a slap. you know ,— wanting to give him a slap. you know , you— wanting to give him a slap. you know , you think— wanting to give him a slap. you know , you think somebody needs know, you think somebody needs to otoo— know, you think somebody needs to otoo tn— know, you think somebody needs to oooo tn unu— know, you think somebody needs to step in and help— know, you think somebody needs to step in and help this poor boy—90t- boy because this has got otononto— boy because this has got elements of— boy because this has got elements of tragedy boy because this has got- elements of-tragedy about elements of greek tragedy about in — elements of greek tragedy about it. _took.— elements of greek tragedy about in _toon .— elements of greek tragedy about it. _look, i mean,- elements of greek tragedy about it. _look, i mean, one- it. now, look, i mean, one wonders more help one wonders how much more help one can someone gone to can give someone who's gone to every therapist known man every therapist known to man who's to who's had his family there to support who's , you know, support him, who's, you know, one would assume has a
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supportive wife, hopes. but supportive wife, one hopes. but that just does go to show the degree to which he has been mentally scarred by his mother's death and how at such a young age, this paranoia has set in. and it's actually made him, i think, lose touch with reality in a great degree. it is just sad how it's all playing out in public. most most people would nuvo—nony- public. most most people would novo —nony to i have the opportunity motty to on— have the opportunity motty to oonlonooooo— have the opportunity motty to sort-process this- have the opportunity motty to sort process this privately, have the opportunity motty to sort help rocess this privately, have the opportunity motty to sort help ,ncess this privately, have the opportunity motty to sort help , privately,privately, have the opportunity motty to sort help , privately, have ely, get help, privately, have fnonuo— get help, privately, have friends to _ get help, privately, have friends to confide in what ntnoo— friends to confide in what nunoo nanny— friends to confide in what prince harry seems to have done is prince harry seems to have done to ouonou— prince harry seems to have done to ouonoo ouoy— prince harry seems to have done is pushed away his— prince harry seems to have done is pushed away his family. he's ottonutoot— is pushed away his family. he's alienated, alienated himself. he has alienated, alienated himself. he nuo unu— alienated, alienated himself. he no and non— alienated, alienated himself. he has and had this— alienated, alienated himself. he has and had this just just incredible— has and had this just just incredible implosion in full public— incredible implosion in full public nou— incredible implosion in full public view, being egged on, funny,— public view, being egged on, nanny, oy— public view, being egged on, frankly, by publishers who wanton— frankly, by publishers who nontou to— frankly, by publishers who wanted to sell— frankly, by publishers who wanted to sell copies of that took.— wanted to sell copies of that took. anu— wanted to sell copies of that book. and putting the most extraordinary— book. and putting the most extraordinary ,— book. and putting the most extraordinary , extraordinary extraordinary, extraordinary tntneo— extraordinary, extraordinary things burning any single ootnnuu— things burning any single scintilla of— things burning any single scintilla of a— things burning any single scintilla of a bridge he had ton— scintilla of a bridge he had ton. — scintilla of a bridge he had ton. anu— scintilla of a bridge he had left . ' 2 ”ti’i�*tii�* scintilla of a bridge he had left. 2 scintilla of a bridge he had- left . and remember, there were left. and remember, there were two boys who lost their mother and the other the other route. there could have been gone down is the one by the prince of
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wales. prince william, who, of course, led his life course, has led has led his life trying from that trying to move on from that tragedy. but course , somebody tragedy. but of course, somebody else won't very else here who won't be very happy about all of this is, of course, meghan, who is basically following their pr following the advice of their pr team. pr team want the team. their pr team want the story being about their story to stop being about their negativity lives. and negativity in their lives. and yet with this story, yet here again with this story, it's more negativity being generated. there's not much positivity and the positivity around and the sussexes to the sussexes compared to the cambridges at the moment and the pr team have been suggesting that strongly, suggesting that they'd themselves or they'd rechannel themselves or they'd rechannel themselves or they'd a break a start they'd take a break for a start and rechannel positive and rechannel into more positive areas. that's of course, we areas. that's why, of course, we haven't meghan much in haven't seen meghan so much in recent months because she's relaunching her own lifestyle career path with this, her old taoiseach website as a lifestyle magazine type of thing . and magazine type of thing. and prince actions are being prince harry's actions are being done without her approval because she can see the damage it's causing not only to him, but also to their brand. that is fascinating. and— but also to their brand. that is fascinating. and it— but also to their brand. that is fascinating. and it does- 2 2 that is fascinating. and it does run against— fascinating. and it does run ugunot u— fascinating. and it does run against a theme that a lot of ne— against a theme that a lot of to woo— against a theme that a lot of too onooo noo— against a theme that a lot of the press has had that sort of noenon— the press has had that sort of noenun to— the press has had that sort of meghan is actually in control on
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into— meghan is actually in control on no nouo— meghan is actually in control on no .— meghan is actually in control on this issue . this— meghan is actually in control on this issue . this is— meghan is actually in control on this issue . this is entirely this issue. this is entirely nanny.— this issue. this is entirely nuny. into— this issue. this is entirely harry. this is— this issue. this is entirely harry. this is absolutely nanny-o— harry. this is absolutely nony-o-nnu- harry. this is absolutely harry's-and as. harry. this is absolutely. harry's-and as well harry. this is absolutely- harry's-and as well as much harry's job. and as well as much of the content of spurs should be said, which also led them open to ridicule. and of course, you noted how meghan stepped back public eye and let back from the public eye and let harry take of the flack for harry take all of the flack for that book put out. and the that book being put out. and the same here. suppose their same thing here. i suppose their hopeis same thing here. i suppose their hope is that once this has gone, this will be the last hurrah for this will be the last hurrah for this that. harry will will this and that. harry will will learn on from this learn to move on from this afterwards. we can but hope i non-t— afterwards. we can but hope i non-t noto— afterwards. we can but hope i don't hold - breath - afterwards. we can but hope i don't hold-breath for- 2 we can but hope i don't hold breath for that. don't hold my breath for that. anu— don't hold my breath for that. andlcan't_ don't hold my breath for that. andican't also— don't hold my breath for that. and can't also help but think and i can't also help but think not— and i can't also help but think nut-unu— and i can't also help but think inn-nit oo— and i can't also help but think that will be netflix that there will be netflix cameras in— that there will be netflix cameras in the back of that nongo— cameras in the back of that nungo novon— cameras in the back of that range rover. they will be at his notot—nono- range rover. they will be at his. hotel—home tonight. range rover. they will be at his. hotwill_home tonight. range rover. they will be at his hotwill be home tonight. range rover. they will be at his hotwill be documentingie tonight. range rover. they will be at his hotwill be documenting allonight. range rover. they will be at his hotwill be documenting all of ght. he will be documenting all of into— he will be documenting all of no for— he will be documenting all of no for ne— he will be documenting all of this for the next— he will be documenting all of this for the next episode of his uoou— this for the next episode of his uoou oonoo— this for the next episode of his docu series. now,— this for the next episode of his docu series. now, remember, you out— docu series. now, remember, you nit-onto— docu series. now, remember, you will.able.watch_ docu series. now, remember, you will.able.watch all- docu series. now, remember, you will able watch all the will be able to watch all the coverage . prince - will be able to watch all the coverage prince harry's time coverage of prince harry's time in coverage of prince harry's time tn—uyo- coverage of prince harry's time tn—uvo on- coverage of prince harry's time tn—uvo on on. in the high court live on gb uouo. — in the high court live on gb uouo. nu— in the high court live on gb news. all this— in the high court live on gb news. all this week. now stay unn— news. all this week. now stay nun uo— news. all this week. now stay nun uo non— news. all this week. now stay with us for the— news. all this week. now stay with us for the battle of boris tonnoon-o— with us for the battle of boris johnson's whatsapp messages oonnnuoo — johnson's whatsapp messages continues. of— johnson's whatsapp messages continues. o” 22a. johnson's whatsapp messages continues. o” 22». johnson's whatsapp messages continues. 2.i». continues. of course, boris johnson is happy to hand them oven johnson is happy to hand them over. the government less so
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7:00 this evening. gb news the noooto-o— 7:00 this evening. gb news the noooto-o .— 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel— 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel it's 1125, and people's. channel it's 1125, and yu-no— people's. channel it's1125, and yu-no unn— people's. channel it's1125, and youo win no— people's. channel it's1125, and youo win no ,— people's. channel it's1125, and you're with me , tom harwood and you're with me, tom harwood and bev you're with me, tom harwood and to tumor— you're with me, tom harwood and bev turner here— you're with me, tom harwood and bev turner here on— you're with me, tom harwood and bev turner here on gb news. on.— bev turner here on gb news. on. to— bev turner here on gb news. on. to to— bev turner here on gb news. this is to the— bev turner here on gb news. this is to the point- bev turner here on gb news. this is to the point now- bev turner here on gb news. this is to the point now early today at arade dam in southern ukraine was damaged by an explosion. the area is under nuooun— explosion. the area is under russian control— explosion. the area is under russian control and- »i»" the area is under russian control and the state run news agency— russian control and the state run news agency tass says that the run news agency tass says that too oouoooo— run news agency tass says that the collapse of— run news agency tass says that the collapse of the remainder is ongoing. — the collapse of the remainder is ongoing. so— the collapse of the remainder is ongoing. so joining us now with the ongoing. so joining us now with too yony— ongoing. so joining us now with too yony tutoot— ongoing. so joining us now with the very latest is— ongoing. so joining us now with the very latest is our home and ooounny— the very latest is our home and security editor— the very latest is our home and security editor mark white.
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ooou — security editor mark white. good morning.— security editor mark white. good morning. and- security editor mark white. good morning. and first of all, let's just give a sense of what this explosion means. this dam is holding back a vast quantity of water that's going to sweep into residential areas. yes i mean, massive. it's 2 /2;~;f i mean, massive. it's basically 2 /»is i mean, massive. it's basically be a mean, massive. it's basically be u nooonou— mean, massive. it's basically be a reservoir over the— mean, massive. it's basically be a reservoir over the dnipro noon— a reservoir over the dnipro noon union— a reservoir over the dnipro river, which goes back hundreds of nioo— river, which goes back hundreds of miles, actually— river, which goes back hundreds of miles, actually .— river, which goes back hundreds of miles, actually . right as river, which goes back hundreds of miles, actually. right as far nook— of miles, actually. right as far back onu— of miles, actually. right as far back and further— of miles, actually. right as far back and further than the zaporizhzhia_ back and further than the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, union— zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, union noo— zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, which also relies on this nooonou— which also relies on this reservoir for— which also relies on this reservoir for its water supplies . anu— reservoir for its water supplies . and in,— reservoir for its water supplies . and in, yo,— reservoir for its water supplies . and but, yes, you're right. into— . and but, yes, you're right. this explosion— . and but, yes, you're right. this explosion that happened in the this explosion that happened in to only— this explosion that happened in the early hours— this explosion that happened in the early hours of— this explosion that happened in the early hours of the morning noo— the early hours of the morning no to— the early hours of the morning has let loose— the early hours of the morning has let loose a— the early hours of the morning has let loose a deluge that's onoootno— has let loose a deluge that's now sweeping both sides of the unno— now sweeping both sides of the ontono noon— now sweeping both sides of the dnipro noon .— now sweeping both sides of the dnipro river . the— now sweeping both sides of the dnipro river . the further down dnipro river. the further down from— dnipro river. the further down from n..— dnipro river. the further down from to non— dnipro river. the further down from the dam .— dnipro river. the further down from the dam . so— dnipro river. the further down from the dam . so that's from the dam. so that's unoonne— from the dam. so that's affecting actually cities like knonoon— affecting actually cities like kherson, which _ affecting actually cities like kherson, which is now under ununun— kherson, which is now under ukrainian control. and also koknoyko— ukrainian control. and also kakhovka, the _ ukrainian control. and also kakhovka, the town that the dam is kakhovka, the town that the dam to nunou— kakhovka, the town that the dam is named after,— kakhovka, the town that the dam is named after, which is also nooonooty— is named after, which is also reportedly under— is named after, which is also reportedly under water there. ano— reportedly under water there. no oono— reportedly under water there. also some russian military
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oootnono— also some russian military oootnono ,— also some russian military positions , ones— also some russian military positions , ones south of the dam positions, ones south of the dam inu— positions, ones south of the dam tnu nuvo— positions, ones south of the dam that have been— positions, ones south of the dam that have been inundated. we know— that have been inundated. we know knu— that have been inundated. we know that crimea, for instance , know that crimea, for instance, nouoo— know that crimea, for instance, nouoo on— know that crimea, for instance, relies on this— know that crimea, for instance, relies on this reservoir nana for no— relies on this reservoir nana for to woo— relies on this reservoir nana for its water supplies as do many— for its water supplies as do many communities in this area, wnkn— many communities in this area, wnkn wit— many communities in this area, which will also— many communities in this area, which will also be— many communities in this area, which will also be affected in the fullness— which will also be affected in the fullness of— which will also be affected in the fullness of time. it's going to two— the fullness of time. it's going to uko un— the fullness of time. it's going to take an awful— the fullness of time. it's going to take an awful lot of time oofono— to take an awful lot of time before there's— to take an awful lot of time before there's any noticeable onnoot— before there's any noticeable offoot on— before there's any noticeable effect on actually the height of the effect on actually the height of too nooowou— effect on actually the height of the reservoir because it's just so the reservoir because it's just oo muon— the reservoir because it's just oo nuon wuon— the reservoir because it's just so much water in— the reservoir because it's just so much water in there. but the tnouoto— so much water in there. but the tnouoto on— so much water in there. but the impacts of this— so much water in there. but the impacts of this dam collapse, nan— impacts of this dam collapse, nan uno— impacts of this dam collapse, nan on— impacts of this dam collapse, mark, are on both sides of the conflict— mark, are on both sides of the conflict ,— mark, are on both sides of the conflict , to— mark, are on both sides of the conflict , is that— mark, are on both sides of the conflict , is that right? yes, conflict, is that right? yes, tnoy— conflict, is that right? yes, tnoy — conflict, is that right? yes, they are. they're being felt on now— they are. they're being felt on non otuoo— they are. they're being felt on both sides of— they are. they're being felt on both sides of the— they are. they're being felt on both sides of the conflict in a oon— both sides of the conflict in a oon on— both sides of the conflict in a sort of military— both sides of the conflict in a sort of military strategic sense . wnon— sort of military strategic sense . wnon you— sort of military strategic sense . then, you know— sort of military strategic sense . then, you know ,— sort of military strategic sense . then, you know , the uk . then, you know, the uk wintowy— . then, you know, the uk wintoony on— . then, you know, the uk ministry of defence and other unokyoto— ministry of defence and other unukyoto no— ministry of defence and other analysts are suggesting that it wouku— analysts are suggesting that it wouku oo— analysts are suggesting that it would be more— analysts are suggesting that it would be more to russia's ouwuntueo— would be more to russia's advantage to— would be more to russia's advantage to destroy this dam noouuoo— advantage to destroy this dam because there's— advantage to destroy this dam because there's a— advantage to destroy this dam because there's a road across it, because there's a road across in non— because there's a road across it, for instance,— because there's a road across it, for instance, that the ukrainians— it, for instance, that the ukrainians could use to put a lot ukrainians could use to put a to on— ukrainians could use to put a to on non— ukrainians could use to put a lot of their heavy— ukrainians could use to put a lot of their heavy armour
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across. and— lot of their heavy armour across. and to- lot of their heavy armour across. and to be clear, the ukrainians are on one side of the river and the russians are on the other. yes. so the ukrainians _ on the other. yes. so the ukrainians are- on the other. yes. so the ukrainians are on- »i»" “cit? so the ukrainians are on the 22�* “cit? so the ukrainians are on the sort 22“ “cit? so the ukrainians are on the sort of nonnwoot— ukrainians are on the sort of northwest side— ukrainians are on the sort of northwest side of the dnipro noon— northwest side of the dnipro kwon onu— northwest side of the dnipro river and the— northwest side of the dnipro river and the northwest side of the river and the northwest side of to kno— river and the northwest side of the this reservoir— river and the northwest side of the this reservoir and dam . the the this reservoir and dam. the kuoouno— the this reservoir and dam. the kuoouno no— the this reservoir and dam. the russians are on— the this reservoir and dam. the russians are on the south oooonnt— russians are on the south eastern side— russians are on the south eastern side of- russians are on the south eastern side of the river. the uknununo— eastern side of the river. the uknununo ,— eastern side of the river. the ukrainians , of— eastern side of the river. the ukrainians , of course, this much ukrainians, of course, this much untou— ukrainians, of course, this much trailed counter—offensive . it trailed counter—offensive. it uooouno— trailed counter—offensive. it oooouno to— trailed counter—offensive. it oooouno to no— trailed counter—offensive. it appears to be underway. the uk wintotny— appears to be underway. the uk wintowy on— appears to be underway. the uk ministry of defence have just put— ministry of defence have just out out— ministry of defence have just out out o— ministry of defence have just put out a notice— ministry of defence have just put out a notice saying that tnoy— put out a notice saying that tnoy no— put out a notice saying that they are witnessing now tnonouoou— they are witnessing now increased activity fighting along— increased activity fighting along ouno— increased activity fighting along two o— increased activity fighting along quite a wide section of no— along quite a wide section of the frontline. _ along quite a wide section of the frontline. it's— along quite a wide section of the frontline. it's not a massive world war two type of counter—offensive _ massive world war two type of counter—offensive that we're oootno— counter—offensive that we're oootno. wo— counter—offensive that we're oootno. wo ono— counter—offensive that we're seeing. no one really was okooonne— seeing. no one really was expecting that— seeing. no one really was expecting that anyway. it is in oookoto— expecting that anyway. it is in pockets where _ expecting that anyway. it is in pockets where clearly the ukrainians _ pockets where clearly the ukrainians see - pockets where clearly the ukrainians see a military ouwunueo— ukrainians see a military advantage in— ukrainians see a military advantage in pushing in those nontoukon— advantage in pushing in those particular areas. _ advantage in pushing in those particular areas. and this does ooook— particular areas. and this does ooouk to— particular areas. and this does ooouk to i...— particular areas. and this does speak to the very— particular areas. and this does speak to the very motty style of wnuno— speak to the very motty style of wnono knu— speak to the very motty style of warfare that we've— speak to the very motty style of warfare that we've been seeing non— warfare that we've been seeing non a..— warfare that we've been seeing from the ukrainian army.
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perhaps— from the ukrainian army. nonnooo ono— from the ukrainian army. perhaps one of— from the ukrainian army. perhaps one of the- from the ukrainian army. perhaps one of the reasons why the russians haven't been able to their world war two to have their world war two style sweeping victory that they wanted because because the wanted was because because the ukrainians have been such ukrainians have been using such such modern tactics, such small pockets of activity rather than one big charge. yeah well, there are advised being advised. remember , by nato military remember, by nato military koouono— remember, by nato military kouuono oo— remember, by nato military leaders as every— remember, by nato military leaders as every step of the way . anu— leaders as every step of the way . anu tnoy— leaders as every step of the way . anu tnoy no— leaders as every step of the way . and they are giving them the ouwoo— . and they are giving them the ouwoo knot— . and they are giving them the advice that best— . and they are giving them the advice that best utilise uses tnotn— advice that best utilise uses their equipment— advice that best utilise uses their equipment and manpower in oonnonoono— their equipment and manpower in oonnunoono to— their equipment and manpower in comparison to russia, russia has far comparison to russia, russia has fun ouoonon— comparison to russia, russia has far superior numbers and has a lot far superior numbers and has a to on— far superior numbers and has a too on wouoonny— far superior numbers and has a too on wouoonny .— far superior numbers and has a lot of weaponry . everybody is lot of weaponry. everybody is unuonokuytng— lot of weaponry. everybody is underplaying perhaps the russian ntknony— underplaying perhaps the russian military involvement and ouaaoonno— military involvement and suggesting that russia is ootuukky— suggesting that russia is uoououy, you — suggesting that russia is actually, you know, a spent nonco— actually, you know, a spent too in— actually, you know, a spent force in terms— actually, you know, a spent force in terms of- actually, you know, a spent force in terms of its ability to onooonky— force in terms of its ability to properly prosecute a war. but notntne— properly prosecute a war. but nothing could— properly prosecute a war. but nothing could be— properly prosecute a war. but nothing could be further from the nothing could be further from too nun.— nothing could be further from the truth. it's— nothing could be further from the truth. it's still a very kotnuk— the truth. it's still a very lethal and— the truth. it's still a very lethal and very significant oowon— lethal and very significant oowon knot— lethal and very significant power that has— lethal and very significant power that has ranged against unu— power that has ranged against and we've seen— power that has ranged against and we've seen the way that
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kuoou— and we've seen the way that kuoou woeoo— and we've seen the way that russia wages war and has done for russia wages war and has done on uoouuoo. — russia wages war and has done for decades. and— russia wages war and has done for decades. ' 2 222 522 for decades. and decades and decades. they will just view their people as utterly disposable and keep throwing them into conflict by the tens of thousands not caring if they perish. well, that's a very oontnont— perish. well, that's a very pertinent point— well, that's a very pertinent point because if you kook— pertinent point because if you took at— pertinent point because if you took at no— pertinent point because if you look at the city— pertinent point because if you look at the city of bakhmut, wnton— look at the city of bakhmut, which they've _ look at the city of bakhmut, which they've been fighting over notwoon— which they've been fighting over between ukraine _ which they've been fighting over between ukraine and russia for nonw— between ukraine and russia for many—now- between ukraine and russia for martin—now ,- between ukraine and russia for. many,_now , finally many, many months now, finally futon— many, many months now, finally fukkon noowy— many, many months now, finally fallen mostly to _ many, many months now, finally fallen mostly to the russians . fallen mostly to the russians. it fallen mostly to the russians. n woo— fallen mostly to the russians. n u..— fallen mostly to the russians. it was the wagner group of mercenaries— it was the wagner group of mercenaries that won that ountoukon— mercenaries that won that particular victory for the kuoouno— particular victory for the russians. but- particular victory for the russians. but all throughout kno— russians. but all throughout tnto noo— russians. but all throughout this has been— russians. but all throughout this has been this war between the this has been this war between to noon— this has been this war between to noon on— this has been this war between the head of the— this has been this war between the head of the wagner group, wowoony— the head of the wagner group, yevgeny prigozhin , and the yevgeny prigozhin, and the kuooun— yevgeny prigozhin, and the russian ministry of defence. the kutoot— russian ministry of defence. the kutoot ,— russian ministry of defence. the latest , according— russian ministry of defence. the latest , according to the uk latest, according to the uk wintowy— latest, according to the uk wintowy on— latest, according to the uk ministry of defence , is that ministry of defence, is that wowoony— ministry of defence, is that yevgeny prigozhin is now okuntne— yevgeny prigozhin is now claiming that— yevgeny prigozhin is now claiming that the russian forces nowo— claiming that the russian forces nowo ktkkou— claiming that the russian forces nowo know u— claiming that the russian forces have killed a number of his mercenaries— have killed a number of his mercenaries in— have killed a number of his mercenaries in that region and tnoy-no— mercenaries in that region and tnoy-no ukoo— mercenaries in that region and they're also that— mercenaries in that region and they're also that the wagner onouo— they're also that the wagner onouo nowo— they're also that the wagner group have captured a russian
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commander. it— group have captured a russian commander. it seems very oyonunonon— commander. it seems very dysfunction arsenal at best. but ukoo— dysfunction arsenal at best. but also remember— dysfunction arsenal at best. but also remember ,— dysfunction arsenal at best. but also remember , there's a lot of also remember, there's a lot of onoougunuu— also remember, there's a lot of propaganda tn— also remember, there's a lot of propaganda in this war coming out non — propaganda in this war coming out from both _ propaganda in this war coming out from both sides . so we have out from both sides. so we have to tuko— out from both sides. so we have to take everything— out from both sides. so we have to take everything that we hear witn— to take everything that we hear wnn o— to take everything that we hear wnn o you— to take everything that we hear with a you know— to take everything that we hear with a you know ,— to take everything that we hear with a you know , just a note of with a you know, just a note of caution.— with a you know, just a note of caution. nut— with a you know, just a note of caution. but at— with a you know, just a note of caution. but at the— with a you know, just a note of caution. but at the moment, a wow— caution. but at the moment, a wony oonouo— caution. but at the moment, a very serious situation in around two— very serious situation in around no oon— very serious situation in around no uun witn— very serious situation in around this dam with with about 80 communities,— this dam with with about 80 communities, settlements that are communities, settlements that tn— communities, settlements that in no— communities, settlements that are in the frontline in terms of tone— are in the frontline in terms of being flooded— are in the frontline in terms of being flooded . _ are in the frontline in terms of being flooded . “43?" are in the frontline in terms of being flooded . / are in the frontline in terms of being flooded . “43?" 021 being flooded. yeah. okay. thank you, mark. right. we're going to bnng you, mark. right. we're going to bring you some more breaking news. prince harry's statement to the court, this is not his testimony, but a prepared statement, which is also just been released. in it, he talks about his relationship with his former girlfriend , chelsy former girlfriend, chelsy davy. here's what he said about one article. well, it's reported knu— article. well, it's reported that chelsea _ article. well, it's reported that chelsea and- 2.l»i well, it's reported that chelsea and i had a, quote, oonot— that chelsea and i had a, quote, oonot nooune— that chelsea and i had a, quote, secret meeting where i had noggou— secret meeting where i had noggoo non— secret meeting where i had begged her for— secret meeting where i had begged her for a second chance. s begged her for a second chance. s no— begged her for a second chance. s no eooo— begged her for a second chance. s no eooo on— begged her for a second chance. o no aooo on to— begged her for a second chance. s he goes on to say, these kinds of ontokoo— s he goes on to say, these kinds of articles made— s he goes on to say, these kinds of articles made me— s he goes on to say, these kinds of articles made me feel as tnouon— of articles made me feel as onouon ny— of articles made me feel as though my relationship with cnokooo— though my relationship with chelsea was— though my relationship with chelsea was always set to be uoonou— chelsea was always set to be uoonou .— chelsea was always set to be uoonou . wo— chelsea was always set to be doomed . we couldn't even meet in
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doomed. we couldn't even meet in onouo— doomed. we couldn't even meet in onwoto on— doomed. we couldn't even meet in onouo on nowo— doomed. we couldn't even meet in private or have arguments over the private or have arguments over to tokoonono— private or have arguments over the telephone without the oononuunt— the telephone without the defendant somehow learning these uotuko— defendant somehow learning these uotuio onu— defendant somehow learning these details and publishing them for the details and publishing them for too wnoko— details and publishing them for the whole country to see again. it the whole country to see again. n woo— the whole country to see again. n tuot— the whole country to see again. it was just that— the whole country to see again. it was just that feeling of tone— it was just that feeling of being under— it was just that feeling of being under surveillance all the uno— being under surveillance all the uno. »— being under surveillance all the time. i believe— being under surveillance all the time. i believe chelsea found into— time. i believe chelsea found no owon— time. i believe chelsea found this even more— time. i believe chelsea found this even more difficult to deal wu..— this even more difficult to deal wnn. none— this even more difficult to deal wnn. tune on— this even more difficult to deal wnn. hang on u— this even more difficult to deal with. hang on a minute, harry. woun— with. hang on a minute, harry. koon .— with. hang on a minute, harry. koon . s— with. hang on a minute, harry. koon . s knot-o— with. hang on a minute, harry. yeah . s that's sad— with. hang on a minute, harry. yeah . s that's sad that- with. hang on a minute, harry. yeah. s that's sad that you felt like that. but you got to live the life of the most extra ordinary luxury and privilege and it just comes with the territory . i agree. and it just comes with the territory. iagree. you're and it just comes with the territory . i agree. you're more territory. i agree. you're more sympathetic. well, territory. i agree. you're more sympathetic . well, i. it does. sympathetic. well, i. it does. no— sympathetic. well, i. it does. no oounou— sympathetic. well, i. it does. this sounds more— syn 2. well, i. it does. this sounds more legitimate than oonoown— this sounds more legitimate than oonoown on n— this sounds more legitimate than somehow an 11 year— this sounds more legitimate than somehow an 11 year old reading all somehow an 11 year old reading on on— somehow an 11 year old reading on on tnooo— somehow an 11 year old reading all of these newspapers or someone without a mobile tokoonono— someone without a mobile telephone having his mobile tokoonono— telephone having his mobile telephone hacked, this this oounou— telephone hacked, this this sounds more— telephone hacked, this this sounds more legitimate and it nuot— sounds more legitimate and it nuot nowo— sounds more legitimate and it must have been— sounds more legitimate and it must have been very difficult. nut— must have been very difficult. but out— must have been very difficult. but out tnon— must have been very difficult. but but then again, i do think owony— but but then again, i do think owony a—uot— but but then again, i do think every a—list celebrity in this woun— every a—list celebrity in this wonku wit— every a—list celebrity in this world will have— every a—list celebrity in this world will have exactly the same noouneo— world will have exactly the same noounoo unu— world will have exactly the same feelings and experiences . yeah. feelings and experiences. yeah. whoo— feelings and experiences. yeah. wnot uto— feelings and experiences. yeah. what no no— feelings and experiences. yeah. what did he say?— feelings and experiences. yeah. what did he say? he— feelings and experiences. yeah. what did he say? he said- feelings and experiences. yeah. what did he say? he said he had a secret meeting with chelsea
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where he begged her for a second chance and these kind of articles made me feel as though my relationship was always set to be doomed. well, maybe it was. and maybe it wasn't the fault of the articles. maybe you were a rubbish boy. but also. sorry. were a rubbish boy. but also. sonny. into.— were a rubbish boy. but also. sorry. this. this— were a rubbish boy. but also. sorry. this. this this- but also. sorry. this. this this secret nootno— sorry. this. this this secret meeting. presumably it was in oonoon— meeting. presumably it was in oonoon woun— meeting. presumably it was in person. yeah. that's not phone hacking-— person. yeah. that's not phone nooktno. wo— person. yeah. that's not phone hacking. no, mean , that hacking. no, i mean, that uooon-t— hacking. no, i mean, that doesn't quite— hacking. no, i mean, that doesn't quite make sense to me. maybe-— doesn't quite make sense to me. mono-tn— doesn't quite make sense to me. maybe.-i'm missing- maybe. maybe i'm missing oonotntno— maybe. maybe i'm missing- something—context something of the broader context nono— something of the broader context nono. wow,— something of the broader context nono. wet, on— something of the broader context here. we'll, of course, be taking— here. we'll, of course, be talking cameron here. we'll, of course, be talking-cameron a talking to cameron walker a unto— talking to cameron walker a ktnkolkuton— talking to cameron walker a little . later for— talking to cameron walker a little later for the little bit later for all the uouutoo— little bit later for all the updates with— little bit later for all the updates with in court. but more on not— updates with in court. but more on not two. — updates with in court. but more on that later. i'm— updates with in court. but more on that later. i'm still i'm onu— on that later. i'm still i'm still processing- on that later. i'm still i'm still processing all that. non-o— still processing all that. non-owont— still processing all that. don't want to _ still processing all that. don't want to sound- still processing all that. don't want to sound like prince harry, but i'm still coming to terms with revelation that terms with the revelation that a conversation private clearly conversation the private clearly had with his girlfriend ended up in he that in the paper and he said that made for him. made it really hard for him. anyway. well, still to come, families face a £1,000 families could face a £1,000 bill keir starmer. s bill under keir starmer. s environmental . we'll be environmental plans. we'll be talking about that after your morning . news thank you very
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morning. news thank you very muon— morning. news thank you very nuon ton.— morning. news thank you very nuon on. in— morning. news thank you very much, tom. i'm rory- 2 \ thank you very much, tom. i'm rory smith in the gb much, tom. i'm rory smith in the on nowonoonn— much, tom. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom. the— much, tom. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom. the duke of sussex kno— gb newsroom. the duke of sussex accuses the press— gb newsroom. the duke of sussex accuses the press of— gb newsroom. the duke of sussex accuses the press of having okoou— accuses the press of having wood on— accuses the press of having blood on their— accuses the press of having blood on their hands as during his cross—examination at the high— his cross—examination at the high ooun— his cross—examination at the high ooun tn— his cross—examination at the high court in london, prince nanny— high court in london, prince nunny to— high court in london, prince harry is currently giving owuonoo— harry is currently giving evidence against the publisher of evidence against the publisher on no— evidence against the publisher on too nutty— evidence against the publisher of the daily mirror over alleged unkowtuk— of the daily mirror over alleged unlawful information gathering. in unlawful information gathering. »n nio— unlawful information gathering. in his witness— unlawful information gathering. in his witness statement , he in his witness statement, he ooyo— in his witness statement, he ouyo no— in his witness statement, he ouyo no nou— in his witness statement, he says he felt physically sick to town— says he felt physically sick to koonn tnono— says he felt physically sick to learn there were— says he felt physically sick to learn there were eight payments to onouo— learn there were eight payments to private investigators in onion— to private investigators in relation to _ to private investigators in relation to his— to private investigators in relation to his mother and 135 ooounoto— relation to his mother and 135 separate payments related to in..— separate payments related to ntn. no— separate payments related to ntn. no ooyo— separate payments related to him. he says he— separate payments related to him. he says he realises that his him. he says he realises that no uouto— him. he says he realises that his acute paranoia of being oonounwy— his acute paranoia of being constantly under surveillance not— constantly under surveillance was not misplaced . placed mirror was not misplaced. placed mirror group— was not misplaced. placed mirror onouo nowoouoono— was not misplaced. placed mirror group newspapers denies all ukkoaunono— group newspapers denies all allegations that— group newspapers denies all allegations that you are now going— allegations that you are now going to— allegations that you are now going to to — allegations that you are now going to be. itv— allegations that you are now going to be. itv is currently iooing— going to be. itv is currently iooing gniiiou— going to be. itv is currently being grilled in— going to be. itv is currently being grilled in parliament over the broadcaster's— being grilled in parliament over the broadcaster's handling of iniiiio— the broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield affair . magnus phillip schofield affair. magnus onook— phillip schofield affair. magnus onook non— phillip schofield affair. magnus brook from the— phillip schofield affair. magnus brook from the management team is brook from the management team io oiionuing— brook from the management team is attending parliament's ouiiuno— is attending parliament's culture, media and sport committee.— culture, media and sport committee. questions have been noioou— committee. questions have been nuioou oon— committee. questions have been nuioou now— committee. questions have been raised over how much bosses at the raised over how much bosses at no cnunnoi— raised over how much bosses at
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the channel knew— raised over how much bosses at the channel knew about schofield's— the channel knew about schofield's affair with a youngon— schofield's affair with a younger male colleague . the younger male colleague. the cowo— younger male colleague. the coviio i9— younger male colleague. the covm 19 inquiry— younger male colleague. the covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says ono-ii— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says ono-ii oo— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says she'll be making— covid 19 inquiry chairwoman says she'll be making no further oonnnnoni— she'll be making no further comment on the row between the noun— comment on the row between the inguiny unu— comment on the row between the inguiny uni ino— comment on the row between the inquiry and the cabinet office ino— inquiry and the cabinet office over the release— inquiry and the cabinet office over the release of boris ionnoon-o— over the release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages. at a johnson's whatsapp messages. at uonoiininony— johnson's whatsapp messages. at a preliminary hearing, baroness wooinon— a preliminary hearing, baroness heather hallett— a preliminary hearing, baroness heather hallett said it's due to oonuing— heather hallett said it's due to pending litigation . cabinet pending litigation. cabinet onno— pending litigation. cabinet office ministerjeremy pending litigation. cabinet office minister jeremy quin uoionuou— office minister jeremy quin defended this,— office minister jeremy quin defended this, saying it'll be iowyono— defended this, saying it'll be iuwyono noi— defended this, saying it'll be lawyers, not politicians , who lawyers, not politicians, who wiii— lawyers, not politicians, who wiii uooiuo— lawyers, not politicians, who will decide what— lawyers, not politicians, who will decide what information is noiowoni— will decide what information is noiowuni .— will decide what information is relevant . the— will decide what information is relevant . the labour leader says relevant. the labour leader says the transition _ relevant. the labour leader says the transition to— relevant. the labour leader says the transition to green energy wiii— the transition to green energy will establish— the transition to green energy will establish a— the transition to green energy will establish a new business nouoi— will establish a new business nouoi ion— will establish a new business model for britain. speaking at the model for britain. speaking at no own— model for britain. speaking at the gmb union's— model for britain. speaking at the gmb union's conference, sir koin— the gmb union's conference, sir koin siunnon— the gmb union's conference, sir keir starmer aims— the gmb union's conference, sir keir starmer aims to gain ouooon— keir starmer aims to gain ouooon ion— keir starmer aims to gain support for the- keir starmer aims to gain support for the party's plan to ion— support for the party's plan to ion now— support for the party's plan to ion oi— support for the party's plan to ban new oil and— support for the party's plan to ban new oil and gas extraction iioonooo— ban new oil and gas extraction iioonooo in— ban new oil and gas extraction licences in the— ban new oil and gas extraction licences in the north sea . it's licences in the north sea. it's union— licences in the north sea. it's union own— licences in the north sea. it's after gmb general secretary gary omin— after gmb general secretary gary smith expressed _ after gmb general secretary gary smith expressed concerns that the smith expressed concerns that ono puny-o— smith expressed concerns that the party's stance— smith expressed concerns that the party's stance may lead to a ouuuon— the party's stance may lead to a ouuuon onoo— the party's stance may lead to a ouuuon too in— the party's stance may lead to a sudden drop in jobs , referring sudden drop in jobs, referring to ii— sudden drop in jobs, referring to i uo— sudden drop in jobs, referring to i uo u— sudden drop in jobs, referring to it as a cliff— sudden drop in jobs, referring to it as a cliff edge . that's to it as a cliff edge. that's ino— to it as a cliff edge. that's no uo— to it as a cliff edge. that's no uo io— to it as a cliff edge. that's the up to date,— to it as a cliff edge. that's the up to date, but you can't get—
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join us here on gb news. the noooio-o— join us here on gb news. the people's channel— join us here on gb news. the people's channel britain is woioning— people's channel britain is wuioning .— people's channel britain is wuioning . — people's channel britain is watching . it's— people's channel britain is watching. , “ii—qt people's channel britain is watching . c “20 ”»i people's channel britain is watching. c “20 "»i watching. it's 1140 you're with to the point on gb news. thank you for joining to the point on gb news. thank you forjoining us. now apple you for joining us. now apple has unveiled an augmented reality headset which it claims is the most advanced personal electronic device ever for lonely people called vision pro. it's labelled as mixed reality as it combines virtual virtual reality in which the wearer is fully immersed in the digital world with augmented reality , world with augmented reality, where digital images are overlaid onto the real world. well , let's make overlaid onto the real world. well, let's make some sense of two— well, let's make some sense of inio now— well, let's make some sense of inio wu.— well, let's make some sense of this now with the— well, let's make some sense of this now with the technology tounnoiioi— this now with the technology journalist will— this now with the technology journalist will guyot and will, inio— journalist will guyot and will, inio io— journalist will guyot and will, inio io on— journalist will guyot and will, this is an interesting play from apple—
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this is an interesting play from apple oooouoo— this is an interesting play from apple because we've seen sort of ougnoniou— apple because we've seen sort of uugnoniou onu— apple because we've seen sort of augmented and virtual reality uowiooo— augmented and virtual reality uowiooo io— augmented and virtual reality devices be released and flop or at devices be released and flop or oi ioooi— devices be released and flop or oi ioooi io— devices be released and flop or at least be proposed and flop by no— at least be proposed and flop by ioio oi— at least be proposed and flop by lots of companies— at least be proposed and flop by lots of companies beforehand. i inink— lots of companies beforehand. i inink took— lots of companies beforehand. i think back to— lots of companies beforehand. i think back to google glass, back in 20g,— think back to google glass, back in zoos, wnion— think back to google glass, back in 2013, which which got a lot of in 2013, which which got a lot oi notio— in 2013, which which got a lot oi nouio nyoo— in 2013, which which got a lot of media hype and then disappeared— of media hype and then disappeared without a trace. so why— disappeared without a trace. so wny iooo— disappeared without a trace. so wny uooo kooio— disappeared without a trace. so why does apple think this is iiiiononi— why does apple think this is iiiiononi o— why does apple think this is different ? right. �*vwiicc 22 different? right. well, good morning to you both . i'm going morning to you both. i'm going to pick up on something bev said that it's a very rich because they're selling this the kick—off price for this when it launches next year, it's going to be $3,499. that's about £2,800 right now. so we'll let that sink in for a second. what's good about this and you picked it up there before, other people have done a lot of this stuff. but what apple manages to do is kind of brings in new features as other people's features as other people's features that haven't done features that haven't been done particularly brings it particularly well and brings it all together quite a good all together in quite a good slick looking package. now i say it's a good slick looking
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package because the reality is these look like a pair of these things look like a pair of ski goggles from 1987. there's no way of dressing up the fact that this technology is more this is more apple getting in at the ground level, wanting to start and establish own start and establish its own category in computing and in personal tech . and this personal tech. and this technology over the years is if we continue buying it and they continue investing in it, we'll get smaller and smaller to the point where eventually, hopefully be the hopefully it'll be about the size of glasses i'm wearing size of the glasses i'm wearing on my head. we've been on my head. we've just been watching some some pictures of it now and i can actually, for the first time sort of see a real use for this. there was someone wearing- real use for this. there was someone wearing it- ”252 2.52: there was someone wearing it on an oonooiono— someone wearing it on an aeroplane and— someone wearing it on an aeroplane and that seems iogiooi— aeroplane and that seems iogiooi. i— aeroplane and that seems logical. ijust— aeroplane and that seems logical. i just can't imagine ooooio— logical. i just can't imagine ooooio woiking— logical. i just can't imagine people walking around with these iningo— people walking around with these massive things on— people walking around with these massive things on their head. it iooon-i— massive things on their head. it iooon-i oooo— massive things on their head. it doesn't pass the— massive things on their head. it doesn't pass the silly test. inono-o— doesn't pass the silly test. inono-o o— doesn't pass the silly test. there's a reason- doesn't pass the silly test. there's a reason for that iooouoo— there's a reason for that because the— there's a reason for that because the real world is ooiuoiiy— because the real world is actually quite _ because the real world is actually quite interesting and ongoging— actually quite interesting and engaging-vou- actually quite interesting and engaging c actually quite interesting and. engaging-you won't find engaging. i bet you won't find me disagreeing with you on this one, bev. i can promise because this technology not designed this technology is not designed for you to wearing where for you to be wearing where you're around. they're
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you're walking around. they're talking being used talking about this being used as a device. that a product device. the idea that you use this instead of you can use this instead of screens where you're working . screens where you're working. apple went far as suggesting apple went as far as suggesting that you replace six that you could replace six screens a designer screens if you're a designer with this because of the way it's built and created terms it's built and created in terms of where we're at with this and what happened, i have to tell you, mark zuckerberg will have been crying into whatever metaverse headset he's created so far, because what apple have done here is released a confident demo which gives you some real world examples of how it's going to work, whether or not you think they're good or not. there are real world examples they've also shown examples and they've also shown some the great content examples and they've also shown some ine great content examples and they've also shown some in the eat content examples and they've also shown some in the world, itent examples and they've also shown some in the world, like creators in the world, like disney companies are disney and other companies are coming , on board make coming too, on board to make product, make apps and product, make, make apps and services for this, which is none of that came through in the year services for this, which is none of flat came through in the year services for this, which is none of tia halfie through in the year services for this, which is none of tia half ag0|rough in the year services for this, which is none of tia half ago thath in the year services for this, which is none of tia half ago that mark�*ie year and a half ago that mark zuckerberg the zuckerberg showed off the metaverse hasn't metaverse and still hasn't really to show really released anything to show it. the thing i hope comes from this device because apple have been lot of effort been spending a lot of effort and building it and time on building it regardless whether you regardless of not whether you want it. there's about 5000
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different patents that have different tech patents that have been put into this. i get violently sick after use any kind of virtual reality headset. i'd honking into bin within i'd be honking into a bin within about 15 to 20 minutes on the bafis about 15 to 20 minutes on the basis of using anything else that's on the market. so i'm hoping this technology with better screen technology, which apple for it, apple have developed for it, might start alleviating apple have developed for it, mightof start alleviating apple have developed for it, mightof that start alleviating apple have developed for it, mightof that start alleofating apple have developed for it, mightof that start alleof motion some of that problem of motion sickness people get. sickness that some people get. just idiot's question just ask an idiot's question because when would i need it? will if i want to work on a screen, i work— will if i want to work on a screen, i work on a screen. if i wont— screen, i work on a screen. if i woni io— screen, i work on a screen. if i woni io oo— screen, i work on a screen. if i want to be with— screen, i work on a screen. if i want to be with human beings, i'd want to be with human beings, no no— want to be with human beings, ii to wit.— want to be with human beings, i'd be with human beings. if i wont— i'd be with human beings. if i woni io— i'd be with human beings. if i woni to go— i'd be with human beings. if i want to go and— i'd be with human beings. if i want to go and walk in the oouninyoiio— want to go and walk in the countryside and- want to go and walk in the countryside and walk in the oouninyoiio— countryside and walk in the countryside, why do i need it? vou— countryside, why do i need it? you oon-i— countryside, why do i need it? you don't need— countryside, why do i need it? you don't need it,— countryside, why do i need it? you don't need it, bev.- countryside, why do i need it? you don't need it, bev. you can you can live with your iphone and your apple watch if you've got is for other got those. this is for other people might want watch people that might want to watch stuff screen at home stuff on a big screen at home and have a big screen on and don't have a big screen on their property, but they might play their property, but they might play video games, might play video games, they might connect different connect with people in different ways. apple are trying to ways. what apple are trying to do is trying open a new do here is trying to open a new market a sector and market and a new sector and a new segment. they're normally
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kind 1 steps behind kind of 1 or 2 steps behind everybody this space everybody else into this space because came to because when it came to smartphones, the iphone before the in two thousand and the iphone in two thousand and seven, some other seven, there were some other smartphones before they weren't very apple very good. but what apple is doing into this doing here is coming into this market early hoping market super early and is hoping it encourage companies it can encourage other companies to and make to get involved and make fascinating this is a fascinating this is a fascinating here. and fascinating point here. and perhaps a difference- fascinating point here. and perhaps a difference in- perhaps a difference in direction— perhaps a difference in direction for- perhaps a difference in direction for apple under tim cook— direction for apple under tim cook inon— direction for apple under tim cook inon ii— direction for apple under tim cook than it was— direction for apple under tim cook than it was under under siowo— cook than it was under under siowo ioioo— cook than it was under under siowo ioioo ,— cook than it was under under steve jobs , because as you were steve jobs, because as you were iuoi— steve jobs, because as you were iuoi ooying— steve jobs, because as you were iuoi ooying, inon— steve jobs, because as you were just saying, then, when the ipad ionougni— just saying, then, when the ipad was brought out,— just saying, then, when the ipad was brought out, it was a oonooioni— was brought out, it was a competent mass market product. wnon— competent mass market product. wnon ino— competent mass market product. when the iphone— competent mass market product. when the iphone was brought out, it when the iphone was brought out, i woo— when the iphone was brought out, i o— when the iphone was brought out, it was a competent— when the iphone was brought out, it was a competent mass market product-— it was a competent mass market onouuoi. inio— it was a competent mass market onouuon inio io— it was a competent mass market product. this is like one of inooo— product. this is like one of those folding— product. this is like one of those folding phones that you oonnoinnoo— those folding phones that you sometimes see— those folding phones that you sometimes see from from from oonoung.— sometimes see from from from sonoung. ani— sometimes see from from from samsung. and other companies. son— samsung. and other companies. sonlinoy-no— samsung. and other companies. sort-they're not— samsung. and other companies. sort they're not very good, sort of they're not very good, ouo— sort of they're not very good, ioui inoy-no — sort of they're not very good, but they're quite— sort of they're not very good, but they're quite fun. and experimental. - but they're quite fun. and experimental. / "iii”iii: but they're quite fun. and experimental. “43?" ’»i”»i but they're quite fun. and- experimental. yeah, there you go . koon. — experimental. yeah, there you go . koon. noion— experimental. yeah, there you go . yeah. peter faulding.- experimental. / 22 yeah. peter faulding. so this . yeah. peter faulding. so this is . yeah. peter faulding. so this io ino— . yeah. peter faulding. so this is the - motorola - yeah. peter faulding. so this is the motorola one out this is the new motorola one out this wook—wnion- is the new motorola one out this week,_which i'm- week, by the way, which i'm iooiing— week, by the way, which i'm iooiinglino— week, by the way, which i'm testing the moment. um, but testing at the moment. um, but the testing at the moment. um, but no iioo— testing at the moment. um, but no iioolinio— testing at the moment. um, but the idea this, you're quite the idea of this, you're quite nigni— the idea of this, you're quite nigh—um,- the idea of this, you're quite ugh—gm, aooioi right there, tom. um, apple have onowiouoiy— right there, tom. um, apple have onowiouoiy-ion— right there, tom. um, apple have previously for everybody previously waited for everybody oioo—iiko - previously waited for everybody oioo—iiko inol else to do something like the ononwoion— else to do something like the smartwatch they've else to do something like the- smartwatch _they've come smartwatch and then they've come out smartwatch and then they've come ouo-ii— smartwatch and then they've come out-it afterwards.—
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smartwatch and then they've come out it afterwards. somebody out with it afterwards. somebody ioii— out with it afterwards. somebody tout—ooy— out with it afterwards. somebody ioii—ioy onoo- told me the other day that the wow— told me the other day that the very-apple— told me the other day that the very apple computer in the very first apple computer in the meo— very first apple computer in the ioioo ino— very first apple computer in the ioioo, to auto— very first apple computer in the 1970s, the apple the cost 1970s, the apple one, the cost of 1970s, the apple one, the cost oi-oiiuoioi— 1970s, the apple one, the cost of-adjusted for- 1970s, the apple one, the cost of adjusted for modern of that, adjusted for modern iniioiion— of that, adjusted for modern inflation,-make- of that, adjusted for modern inflation, make it the inflation, would make it the onoo— inflation, would make it the same price as— inflation, would make it the same price as what we're coming out witn— same price as what we're coming out wiin onio— same price as what we're coming out with this for— same price as what we're coming out with this for this vision pro— out with this for this vision ono-oioo— out with this for this vision ono-oioo ino- out with this for this vision pro also the other thing pro and also the other thing oiooui— pro and also the other thing oiooui onio— pro and also the other thing about this presentation that apple— about this presentation that apple iii— about this presentation that apple uiu iooi— about this presentation that apple did last night, quite a lot apple did last night, quite a ioi oi— apple did last night, quite a ioi oi ino— apple did last night, quite a lot of the other— apple did last night, quite a lot of the other products they onowing— lot of the other products they were showing were for premium ii— were showing were for premium ii you— were showing were for premium ii you owo— were showing were for premium ii you o— were showing were for premium use. if you were a designer or you—on— use. if you were a designer or you—on onoo- use. if you were a designer or you—or that kind. use. if you were a designer ori you—or that kind of you make video or that kind of oiuii— you make video or that kind of oiuii, inoy— you make video or that kind of stuff, they showed off a mac oonouion— stuff, they showed off a mac computer-was- stuff, they showed off a mac computer was the starting computer that was the starting oniny— computer that was the starting oniny-oowon- computer that was the starting entry seven grand. so entry price was seven grand. so onoo— entry price was seven grand. so inoi-giwo— entry price was seven grand. so inoi-giwo-on- that should give you an indication— that should give you an indication apple is trying indication into apple is trying to auto— indication into apple is trying to apple noo— indication into apple is trying to apple has it's— indication into apple is trying to apple has it's kind of consumer line- to apple has it's kind of consumer line which is doing wony— consumer line which is doing very successfully— consumer line which is doing very successfully what they're inying — very successfully what they're inying io — very successfully what they're inying to to — very successfully what they're inying to to io— very successfully what they're trying to do is almost reintroduce- trying to do is almost reintroduce another premium line trying to do is almost reiproducts another premium line trying to do is almost reiproducts whichzr premium line trying to do is almost reiproducts which theyimium line trying to do is almost reiproducts which they know line of products which they know ooooio— of products which they know ooooio wiii— of products which they know people will still— of products which they know people will still even if people will still buy. even if apple— people will still buy. even if apple oou— people will still buy. even if apple ooii o— people will still buy. even if apple sell a quarter of the nunnnioo— apple sell a quarter of the nunnnio oi— apple sell a quarter of the number of they— apple sell a quarter of the number of they sell of an annual inono— number of they sell of an annual innono ooio— number of they sell of an annual iphone sale for— number of they sell of an annual iphone sale for this— number of they sell of an annual iphone sale for this device at ino— iphone sale for this device at no onoo— iphone sale for this device at the price they're— iphone sale for this device at the price they're selling it for owoniuoiiy— the price they're selling it for eventually. .with - the price they're selling it for eventually. with all the eventually. and with all the ooioo— eventually. and with all the ooioo-oni- eventually. and with all the sales-and all- eventually. and with all the sales and all the stuff sales of apps and all the stuff onoo— sales of apps and all the stuff inoi gooo— sales of apps and all the stuff inoi goo-ii,— sales of apps and all the stuff that goes it, they'll be that goes with it, they'll be noking— that goes with it, they'll be noking nnonoy— that goes with it, they'll be making money. is a that goes with it, they'll be- making money.-is a punt making money. but this is a punt inon— making money. but this is a punt ion-i— making money. but this is a punt inon-i gin,— making money. but this is a punt from-i think, like- making money. but this is a punt from i think, like you from apple. i think, like you ooio— from apple. i think, like you ooii io— from apple. i think, like you ooii io iin— from apple. i think, like you said to tim cook— from apple. i think, like you said to tim cook is trying oonoining— said to tim cook is trying something new. it's clear that onoy-wo— something new. it's clear that
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inoy-wo ioon— something new. it's clear that they've been working this they've been working on this now onoiooiiy—ool they've been working on this now onoicook-o—ool they've been working on this now probcook's been-as. they've been working on this now probcook's been the as they've been working on this now probcook's been the boss as they've been working on this now probcook's been the boss of s they've been working on this now probcook's been the boss of the tim cook's been the boss of the onion.— tim cook's been the boss of the oonoony. kni— tim cook's been the boss of the company. and it's— tim cook's been the boss of the company. and it's time for apple to company. and it's time for apple ioloonoining— company. and it's time for apple to.something-and- to try something new and oxoiiing. — to try something new and exciting. thank you, will. kiwoyo— exciting. thank you, will. kiwoyo gooo— exciting. thank you, will. always good to _ exciting. thank you, will. always good to see- exciting. thank you, will. always good to see you will get there. mark foster and nigel always good to see you will get there. i\are. foster and nigel always good to see you will get there. i\are backer and nigel always good to see you will get there. i\are back withd nigel always good to see you will get there. i\are back with us. gel always good to see you will get there. i\are back with us. mark, nelson are back with us. mark, do know what i'm thinking do you know what i'm thinking looking at that man marks looking at that man goggle marks all just thought all right. i just thought wolves, man. cave was amazing, in,— wolves, man. cave was amazing, ouo—you— wolves, man. cave was amazing, ouo—you oouiin-i- wolves, man. cave was amazing, but,-you couldn't. . but, you know, you couldn't. i-nn — but, you know, you couldn't. i-nn oonny. — but, you know, you couldn't. i-nn oonny. ii-o— but, you know, you couldn't. inn oonny. on o— but, you know, you couldn't. i'm sorry. it's a woman.- but, you know, you couldn't. i'm sorry. it's a woman. i'm sat there thinking, well, that's going to mess up my makeup. and when take off, i'm going to when i take it off, i'm going to have two big goggle marks, which when i take it off, i'm going to have foster; goggle marks, which when i take it off, i'm going to have foster andggle marks, which when i take it off, i'm going to have foster and ijle marks, which when i take it off, i'm going to have foster and i are narks, which when i take it off, i'm going to have foster and i are very;, which mark foster and i are very familiar having our familiar with, having spent our lives looking at the bottom of swimming are fan of swimming pools. are you a fan of this tech? no no. i just this sort of tech? no no. i just think the thing— this sort of tech? no no. i just think the thing is— this sort of tech? no no. i just think the thing is i— think the thing is i mean, we ioiking— think the thing is i mean, we were talking about this earlier oioui— were talking about this earlier oioui iningo— were talking about this earlier about things moving on a little bit about things moving on a little iii ooo— about things moving on a little iii ioo iooi— about things moving on a little bit too fast and— about things moving on a little bit too fast and too far and wnono— bit too fast and too far and where where's— bit too fast and too far and where where's it- bit too fast and too far and where where's it go in terms of, you— where where's it go in terms of, you know,— where where's it go in terms of, you know, what's— where where's it go in terms of, you know, what's wrong with the way— you know, what's wrong with the woyiiiwo — you know, what's wrong with the woyiiiwo _wno — you know, what's wrong with the way live are people that way we live now? are people that unhappy— way we live now? are people that unnoooy-wo— way we live now? are people that unhappy-we keep— way we live now? are people that unhappy we keep developing way we live now? are people that unhap|to we keep developing way we live now? are people that unhap|to make e keep developing way we live now? are people that unhap|to make people developing way we live now? are people that unhap|to make people more)ping way we live now? are people that unhap|to make people more and] things to make people more and more-because that- things to make people more and more because that seems more happy because that seems wou— more happy because that seems woii—wiinl more happy because that seems well,|and_with. more happy because that seems well, and white with more happy because that seems well, and white tv with more happy because that seems well, and white tv a/ith more happy because that seems well, and white tv a small black and white tv and a small iiiiio— black and white tv and a small iiiiio ion— black and white tv and a small iiiiio ion in— black and white tv and a small little box in the— black and white tv and a small little box in the corner of the .wo— little box in the corner of the .wo ou— little box in the corner of the room we all huddle around? room that we all huddle around? why— room that we all huddle around? wny-nood— room that we all huddle around? wny-noou o— room that we all huddle around? wny-noou o nig— room that we all huddle around?
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why-need a big screen?- why do we need a big screen? because is, because that's what this is, a much bigger screen playing outside go outside with your friends. go and with your and play outside with your inionio. — and play outside with your- friends. .harwood. thank you friends. tom harwood. thank you for friends. tom harwood. thank you ion ooouning— friends. tom harwood. thank you ion ooouning i— friends. tom harwood. thank you for assuming i have— friends. 2 thank you for assuming i have friends, but wigoi,— for assuming i have friends, but wigoi, i— for assuming i have friends, but wigoi, .-uot,_ for assuming i have friends, but nigel, i-look,-usedl nigel, i mean, look, i've used inooo—youo- nigel, i mean, look, i've used inooo—youo il nigel, i mean, look, i've used. these—you? i think these things. have you? i think they're great because it does take completely take you into a completely different like. different world. the one i like. this problem is, is if you this world problem is, is if you mess around with it in your sitting you start crashing sitting room, you start crashing into things. but this is where ougnonioi— augmented reality is different ioouoo— augmented reality is different iooouoo—ii-ol because apple's version, it's noi— because apple's version, it's. not—different not taking you into a different winuoi— not taking you into a different virtual world. _ not taking you into a different virtual world. you're virtual world. it's you're oooing—woi virtual world. it's you're. seeing—we see virtual world. it's you're- seeing_we see it. seeing the world as we see it. nui— seeing the world as we see it. nuo-iningo— seeing the world as we see it. but things popping up but with things popping up ino— but with things popping up across the room. /2». i c across the room. you mean like the real world, but magical things popping up, magical sometimes magical things pop up in my real world. tom i'm sure they do in yours, too. should we move on? right eco plans? nigel yeah. families facing £1,000 a yeah yeah. families facing £1,000 a year. for bill labour eco plans. what are you doing now? well, it's going to be a difficult- 22 2 7 well, it's going to be a difficult day for, it's going to be a difficult day to. ion— it's going to be a difficult day to. ion koin— it's going to be a difficult day for, for keir starmer. he's oiinoooing— for, for keir starmer. he's addressing the- for, for keir starmer. he's addressing the gmb conference and addressing the gmb conference oni oi— addressing the gmb conference oni oi uoo— addressing the gmb conference and of course they're concerned oioui— and of course they're concerned oioui wnoi— and of course they're concerned about what the— and of course they're concerned about what the eco— and of course they're concerned about what the eco plans will do is about what the eco plans will do io no-o— about what the eco plans will do io no-o oinooiy— about what the eco plans will do is he's already announced that
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he is he's already announced that no wonio— is he's already announced that no wonio io— is he's already announced that he wants to stop— is he's already announced that he wants to stop oil and gas oonoin— he wants to stop oil and gas oonoin in— he wants to stop oil and gas expansion in the— he wants to stop oil and gas expansion in the north sea, that win— expansion in the north sea, that wiii oooi— expansion in the north sea, that wiii oooi ino— expansion in the north sea, that will cost the gmb— expansion in the north sea, that will cost the gmb jobs. so onoy-no— will cost the gmb jobs. so inoy-no noi— will cost the gmb jobs. so they're not very- will cost the gmb jobs. so they're not very happy about it. koin— they're not very happy about it. koin soonnon— they're not very happy about it. keir starmer is— they're not very happy about it. keir starmer is now arguing that this keir starmer is now arguing that no io— keir starmer is now arguing that no io noi— keir starmer is now arguing that no io noi oo— keir starmer is now arguing that this is not so much— keir starmer is now arguing that this is not so much an eco ooiioy— this is not so much an eco ooiioy oo— this is not so much an eco ooiioy oo o— this is not so much an eco policy as a jobs- this is not so much an eco policy as a jobs policy and it wiii— policy as a jobs policy and it wiii ooio— policy as a jobs policy and it will create 500,000 jobs. the ionioo— will create 500,000 jobs. the ionioo ono— will create 500,000 jobs. the tories are now— will create 500,000 jobs. the tories are now saying, well, nong— tories are now saying, well, nong on— tories are now saying, well, nong on o— tories are now saying, well, nong on o oo— tories are now saying, well, hang on a sec, it'll cost £28 iiiiion— hang on a sec, it'll cost £28 iiiiion io— hang on a sec, it'll cost £28 billion to bring— hang on a sec, it'll cost £28 billion to bring in. this will noioo— billion to bring in. this will raise interest— billion to bring in. this will raise interest rates . families raise interest rates. families wiii— raise interest rates. families wiii oni— raise interest rates. families wiii oni uo— raise interest rates. families will end up spending more than a inouooni— will end up spending more than a inouooni o— will end up spending more than a thousand a year— will end up spending more than a thousand a year on— will end up spending more than a thousand a year on it. will end up spending more than a thousand a year on it . �*vwiicc thousand a year on it. well, yoon— thousand a year on it. well, yoon. inn— thousand a year on it. well, yoon. in gun— thousand a year on it. well, yeah, i'm just trying to do some really quick maths in my head. 28 billion divided by 500,000. that's a very expensive, expensive job. no, actually it ion-i— expensive job. no, actually it isn't expensive. _ expensive job. no, actually it isn't expensive. it— expensive job. no, actually it isn't expensive. it is- no, actually it isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is onoi— isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is that millions— isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is that millions per- isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is that millions per job?- isn't expensive. it is isn't it? is that millions per job? i- is that millions perjob? i think that might be millions. a job. what it should do is it his pion— job. what it should do is it his oion ion— job. what it should do is it his plan for increasing— what it should do is it his plan for increasing growth? i nio— plan for increasing growth? i mean, his argument is that it if you— mean, his argument is that it if you oon— mean, his argument is that it if you can actually— mean, his argument is that it if you can actually turn britain gnoon— you can actually turn britain gnoon oni— you can actually turn britain green and maximise green ioonnoiogy,— green and maximise green technology, that will actually noio— technology, that will actually noio ou— technology, that will actually help our economy and yet and yet wnoi— help our economy and yet and yet wnoi ino— help our economy and yet and yet wnoi ino own— help our economy and yet and yet what the gmb is— help our economy and yet and yet what the gmb is saying today in a what the gmb is saying today in o niiiy— what the gmb is saying today in o niiiy iiiiio— what the gmb is saying today in a nifty little soundbite is
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oiono— a nifty little soundbite is oiono noi— a nifty little soundbite is plans, not bannau in. that's wnoi— plans, not bannau in. that's wioi ino— plans, not bannau in. that's what the gmb want is invest in the clean tech and then the old tech or the or the oil and gas becomes redundant. you don't need to ban it and stop the market from using it. that's only the union's— market from using it. that's only the union's point- 2s 2 c that's only the union's point that that at only the union's point that that oi ino— only the union's point that that at the moment— only the union's point that that at the moment they are saying you— at the moment they are saying you koon— at the moment they are saying you kooo, you— at the moment they are saying you keep, you keep going until you-wo— you keep, you keep going until you-yo goi— you keep, you keep going until you-yo goi ino— you keep, you keep going until you've got the green technology in oiooo— you've got the green technology in oiooo ,— you've got the green technology in oiooo , oiooo— you've got the green technology in place , place to— you've got the green technology in place , place to actually take in place, place to actually take inon ii— in place, place to actually take over from it. _ in place, place to actually take over from it. all— in place, place to actually take over from it. 2 over from it. all right, mark, let me to you this story let me come to you on this story today. is the case of lee today. this is the case of lee thomas, the very famous trans swimmer . thomas, the very famous trans swimmer. this story has been bubbung swimmer. this story has been bubbling on in america . when she bubbling on in america. when she first won the ncaas , it was first won the ncaas, it was hugely controversial , obviously, hugely controversial, obviously, and it has actually sparked a lot of the debates that we have about what is a woman. there's a new swimmer has come out today, hasn't there, in broken her anonymity to talk about the fact that didn't agree with it. that she didn't agree with it. what what do you make of it as a world record holder ? i think the world record holder? i think the oguoiiiy— world record holder? i think the oguoiiiy in— world record holder? i think the oguoiiiy in ooon— world record holder? i think the equality in sport in— 2 22 27 ithink the equality in sport in women's ooon— equality in sport in women's ooon in— equality in sport in women's sport in particular here, i ioon—
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sport in particular here, i mean, leah thomas was will inonoo— mean, leah thomas was will inonoo inon — mean, leah thomas was will thomas from 2017 to 2020. in the sioioo— thomas from 2017 to 2020. in the sioioo oni— thomas from 2017 to 2020. in the states, and she— thomas from 2017 to 2020. in the states, and she was— thomas from 2017 to 2020. in the states, and she was four. he was oozni— states, and she was four. he was oozni in— states, and she was four. he was oozni in ino— states, and she was four. he was 462nd in the us— states, and she was four. he was 462nd in the us .— states, and she was four. he was 462nd in the us . then 462nd in the us. then transitioned- 462nd in the us. then transitioned to leah and then ono— transitioned to leah and then ono won— transitioned to leah and then ono ino— transitioned to leah and then she won the nc— transitioned to leah and then she won the nc two, which is a massive university— she won the nc two, which is a massive university competition. it's massive university competition. to oinooi— massive university competition. it's almost like— massive university competition. it's almost like a— massive university competition. it's almost like a mini world oiynoio— it's almost like a mini world olympic games.— it's almost like a mini world olympic games. i mean, it's ii-o— olympic games. i mean, it's massive, it's huge. so there's a big— massive, it's huge. so there's a big-inono. — massive, it's huge. so there's a big-inono. i— massive, it's huge. so there's a big-there. i think- massive, it's huge. so there's a big there. i think the big shift there. i think the wing— big shift there. i think the ining io— big shift there. i think the thing is what— big shift there. i think the thing is what paul is talking oooun— thing is what paul is talking oioui, i— thing is what paul is talking about, i can't— thing is what paul is talking about, i can't remember, paula. nouio— about, i can't remember, paula. nouio-io— about, i can't remember, paula. nouio-io ino— paula scanlan is the new swimmer. initially spoke swimmer. she initially spoke under . she very under anonymity. she did a very good interview. she good interview. and now she said, come out and said, i have to come out and tell really happened. tell you what really happened. and pennsylvania and she's from pennsylvania uniwonoiiy. — and she's from pennsylvania university. so— and she's from pennsylvania university. so she was in uniwonoiiy— university. so she was in university will, university. so she was in university .will, leah university with will, with leah on—inon - university with will, with leah on—inon ono-ol on the team. and then she's ioikoi— on the team. and then she's talked about— on the team. and then she's talked about is— on the team. and then she's talked about is team—mates of nono— talked about is team—mates of nono-oioooo— talked about is team—mates of nono-oioooo io- talked about is team—mates of hers places to leah? she hers losing places to leah? she iiin-i— hers losing places to leah? she wont-owin- hers losing places to leah? she didn't-swim the- hers losing places to leah? she didn't swim the same didn't she didn't swim the same oonoo— didn't she didn't swim the same events,-university- didn't she didn't swim the same events, university students didn't she didn't swim the same events placesiiversity students didn't she didn't swim the same events places to arsity students didn't she didn't swim the same events places to being ;tudents didn't she didn't swim the same events places to being leftznts didn't she didn't swim the same events places to being left out losing places to being left out of losing places to being left out oi ino— losing places to being left out oi ino oon,— losing places to being left out of the team, left— losing places to being left out of the team, left at home, not noking— of the team, left at home, not noking ino— of the team, left at home, not making the team _ of the team, left at home, not making the team bus, but talking oiooui— making the team bus, but talking oioui now— making the team bus, but talking oioui now onoy— making the team bus, but talking about how they were silenced by the about how they were silenced by oio—inonoo- the university. i think there's a the university. i think there's o-inoi— the university. i think there's o-inoiliook- the university. i think there's a-thatltook fromi the university. i think there's. a-thatltook from the a big thing that i took from the ouo— a big thing that i took from the oiio onoi— a big thing that i took from the oiio no i— a big thing that i took from the clip that i saw— a big thing that i took from the clip that i saw and what she's gono— clip that i saw and what she's gono-ooy— clip that i saw and what she's gono-ooy in— clip that i saw and what she's gone-say in this- clip that i saw and what she's gone say in this interview gone on to say in this interview is gone on to say in this interview io onoi— gone on to say in this interview io inoi ino— gone on to say in this interview is that the initial— gone on to say in this interview is that the initial meeting oiooui— is that the initial meeting oiooui-wiii- is that the initial meeting about will thomas is that the initial meeting- about-will thomas would is that the initial meeting about leah will thomas would is that the initial meeting about leah thomas)mas would is that the initial meeting about leah thomas heis would is that the initial meeting about leah thomas he he vould is that the initial meeting about leah thomas he he wasi swim as leah thomas he he was onoi— swim as leah thomas he he was inoiliook—
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swim as leah thomas he he was that-took that— swim as leah thomas he he was that took that meeting. »i that he took that meeting. he took— that he took that meeting. he iook ino— that he took that meeting. he took the meeting _ that he took that meeting. he took the meeting he- that he took that meeting. he took the meeting he chaired that meeting. those girls on that team were not given any choice whatsoever. they weren't taken to said, to one side. and they said, we're going discuss this. we're going to discuss this. what think? he chaired what do you think? he chaired the which was the meeting which it was announced would announced that he would be joining women's that's joining the women's team. that's shocking, it? yeah. shocking, isn't it? yeah. i mean, i'm shocking, isn't it? yeah. i- mean,-i'm-woman. shocking, isn't it? yeah. i- mec'not-i'm-woman. shocking, isn't it? yeah. i- mec'not in.|'m-woman. shocking, isn't it? yeah. i- mec'not in the 'm-woman. 2 2 c 7 yeah. i mec'not in the women'swoman. 2 2 c 7 yeah. i mec'not in the women's change i'm not in the women's change i— i'm not in the women's change iinink— i'm not in the women's change room. i think she— i'm not in the women's change room. i think she laid on. but you— room. i think she laid on. but you count— room. i think she laid on. but you oouiulii— room. i think she laid on. but you could-if you- room. i think she laid on. but you could if you decided to you could be if you decided to be. icould you could be if you decided to be. i could be. and i would onoooioiy— be. i could be. and i would onoooioiy-wony- i could be. and i would probably very good be. i could be. and i would- probably-very good swimmer. probably be a very good swimmer. wouiu— probably be a very good swimmer. wowo—o— probably be a very good swimmer. would—a comeback?�* would you do make a comeback? what do, though, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere do, though, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere like do, though, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere like as do, though, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere like as a), though, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere like as a gayough, if would you do make a comeback? whéwere like as a gay man, if you were like as a gay man, if you'd through that period you'd been through that period in you decided in your life where you decided that to transition to that you wished to transition to be would you have be a woman, would you have joined swim team? i joined the women's swim team? i don't not in that head don't know. i'm not in that head oioo-o — don't know. i'm not in that head oioo-o nui— don't know. i'm not in that head ooooo on i— don't know. i'm not in that head space. but i suppose the thing wouii— space. but i suppose the thing wowo-onio— space. but i suppose the thing would-this is- space. but i suppose the thing would this is what would be and this is what i iookoi— would be and this is what i looked-here,— would be and this is what i looked here, which okay, looked at here, which was okay, wnoi— looked at here, which was okay, wnoi-nuioo— looked at here, which was okay, what-rules say?- looked at here, which was okay, what rules say? yeah what did the rules say? yeah ion-i— what did the rules say? yeah ion-i-ion-i— what did the rules say? yeah isn't-isn't the— what did the rules say? yeah isn't-isn't the issue- what did the rules say? yeah isn't-isn't the issue here. isn't this isn't the issue here that we haven't established norms it's norms and rules for this? it's also raw and knew that there are big of not big problems in terms of not having clear rules. now, having these clear rules. now, am right in saying that it's am i right in saying that it's either swimming or either british swimming or british who has put british diving who has now put forward some rules about not swimming, about anyone who's gone the male puberty,
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gone through the male puberty, not being able to join the women's team, which which seems like a reasonable thing because let's not forget, there are some trans women who don't go through male puberty who block it, don't get male muscle mass and the get the male muscle mass and the frame, and it would be wrong to ban them, i would but ban them, i would think. but this an individual this is almost an individual case. clear , wrong for some case. it's clear, wrong for some people who have got the muscle mass and the frame of a man to be swimming women. it be swimming with women. but it would improper in other would be improper in other cases. but what do you think, wigoio — cases. but what do you think, wigoio woik— cases. but what do you think, nigel? well, i— cases. but what do you think, nigel? well, i do— 2 but what do you think, nigel? �*vwiicc 22 “
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males , the male tennis players males, the male tennis players or even have a separate section for them. but i think these are all the things, all the unintended consequences is that the that transitions throws up. yeah, but mark, you know, with you— yeah, but mark, you know, with you knowing— yeah, but mark, you know, with you knowing that— yeah, but mark, you know, with you knowing that sport so well, do you knowing that sport so well, io you— you knowing that sport so well, to you inink— you knowing that sport so well, do you think swimming has now noio— do you think swimming has now noio ino— do you think swimming has now noio ino nigni— do you think swimming has now made the right decision to say onoi— made the right decision to say that swimmers— made the right decision to say that swimmers who transition to be that swimmers who transition to ioo noio— that swimmers who transition to be male shouldn't— that swimmers who transition to be male shouldn't be sorry to be ionoio— be male shouldn't be sorry to be ionoio inon— be male shouldn't be sorry to be female from male— be male shouldn't be sorry to be female from male males shouldn't oonooio—oiogol female from male males shouldn't oonooio—oiogoo i compete on the women's stage? ooou— compete on the women's stage? kooi.|inink— compete on the women's stage? yeah,lthink we're— compete on the women's stage? yeah,lthink we're looking- yeah, i think we're looking at fairness and a level playing field i guess field here. and i guess ultimately women to fight ultimately women had to fight for right to vote for the right to vote and now all a sudden and it's not all all of a sudden and it's not all of a sudden this has been happening while, happening for a while, but you're have males that you're going to have males that choose to transition, which i'm really on really happy for them. but on the and professional the elite level and professional sport, you're going take sport, you're going to take away from women that have had from women that would have had the earn a living the opportunity to earn a living from sport, places to from the sport, lose places to the and think the sport. and i think we need we sport to be on a level we want sport to be on a level playing big playing field. that's my big thing. and they'll have a massive advantage. and i feel sorry that happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri that happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri think that happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri think it that happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri think it looksthat happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri think it looks like happens. massive advantage. and i feel sorri think it looks like we're ns. but i think it looks like we're finding on that finding the way. well, on that note, —
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finding the way. well, on that noio-nooo— finding the way. well, on that note,.have run— finding the way. well, on that note,.have run out- finding the way. well, on that note,.have run out of- �*" “2 “2 well, on that note, have run out of time note, we have run out of time ioioy— note, we have run out of time ioioylii-o— note, we have run out of time today it's absolutely by today. it's absolutely flown by ooiuoiiy. — today. it's absolutely flown by actually. _does- today. it's absolutely flown by actually. _does time. today. it's absolutely flown by actually. 2 c actually. but it does time flies when you're having fun. i hope you've real world, when you're having fun. i hope you your—real world,j “2 ’.“ i hope you your world. real world, “2 ’.“ i hope you your world. c2» real world, when you're having fun. i hope you your world. go slowlyirld, when you're having fun. i hope you your world. go slowly ini, not your world. go slowly in your weird reality your virtual weird reality lonely headset. we are in a virtual world. imean, lonely headset. we are in a virtual world. i mean, we're not oiiiing— virtual world. i mean, we're not oiiiing in— virtual world. i mean, we're not sitting in someone's_ . 2 i mean, we're not sitting in someone's sitting wiin— sitting in someone's sitting room with them. we are . we are room with them. we are. we are going— room with them. we are. we are going innougn— room with them. we are. we are going through electress smell you.— going through electress smell you. wo— going through electress smell you. no ono— going through electress smell you. no one watching touch you. no one watching can touch or you. no one watching can touch -uo onywoy— you. no one watching can touch or us anyway. that's or smell us anyway. that's that noi— or smell us anyway. that's that was not an invitation . all was not an invitation. all right. i'll be back tomorrow with mark dolan, and you will be back with me on thursday. indeed. have a great day .
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i'm jacob rees—mogg, the member of parliament for north east somerset and a former government minister. for years i have woikoi— minister. for years i have woikoi ino— “ for years i have walked the corridors of power in ion— walked the corridors of power in both westminster— walked the corridors of power in both westminster the city of both westminster and the city of ionion— both westminster and the city of ionionlnooi— both westminster and the city of london.-need to— both westminster and the city of london. need to have london. we need to have the ongunonio— london. we need to have the ongunonio ,— london. we need to have the arguments , the— london. we need to have the arguments , the discussions on arguments, the discussions on now—oooion- arguments, the discussions on how—better crop. how we make it better crop ioiiunoo— how we make it better crop failures, famine— how we make it better crop failures, famine , war, suffering failures, famine, war, suffering on a scale completely unimaginable. we are putting the cart unimaginable. we are putting the oon ioiono— unimaginable. we are putting the cart before the— unimaginable. we are putting the cart before the horse. as cnonioo— cart before the horse. as charles the _ cart before the horse. as charles the us- cart before the horse. as charles the us said at the oooiioioi— charles the us said at the scaffold, he _ charles the us said at the scaffold, he was the true ioionion— scaffold, he was the true defender of _ scaffold, he was the true defender of liberty. “»ii?“ defender of liberty. yeah, i've completely derailed the conversation. join me monday to inunoioy— conversation. join me monday to inunoioylo— conversation. join me monday to inunoioylo-on— conversation. join me monday to thursday-8-on gb- 2“ join me monday to thursday 8 on gb news. thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. nniioin-o— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news .— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news. britain's news. channel it's 12 a— britain's news. channel it's 12 a wony— britain's news. channel it's 12 noon. a very good— britain's news. channel it's 12 noon. a very good afternoon. wouno— noon. a very good afternoon. wouno witn— noon. a very good afternoon. you're with gb _ noon. a very good afternoon. you're with gb news- noon. a very good afternoon. you're with gb news live. - noon. a very good afternoon. you're with gb news live. i'm mark longhurst . and coming up mark longhurst. and coming up this tuesday lunchtime , i'm this tuesday lunchtime, i'm harry faces up to the mirror. the duke of sussex takes to the oioni — the duke of sussex takes to the oioni oni— the duke of sussex takes to the oioni onoi nio— the duke of sussex takes to the stand and his hacking case ogoinoi— stand and his hacking case ogoinoi ino— stand and his hacking case against the newspaper group. now— against the newspaper group. now ioin—
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