to say this morning to the had to say this morning to the guy calling for all this. what? he told me the cash would come from the wealthy. i'm very excited to be talking to one said man ben habib about said wealthy man ben habib about that in minutes. and check that in a few minutes. and check this out, guys. the absolute state kids going state of it. kids going into shops, whatever they shops, stealing whatever they can get their hands on in broad daylight, walking out door. daylight, walking out the door. the assistants tried to the shop assistants tried to stop and they got fired. what stop it and they got fired. what is this world coming to and speaking of the world, today marks the anniversary of the d—day landings. singer remembered— "j “jay 3“: 93 singer remembered mostly "j "jp; 3“: q5 singer remembered mostly we "j 255; 5“: q5 singer remembered mostly we should forget— remembered mostly we should never forget he's— remembered mostly we should never forget he's seen our troops— never forget he's seen our troops dig— never forget he's seen our troops dig in— never forget he's seen our troops dig in dead bodies out of the sono— troops dig in dead bodies out of the sand on— troops dig in dead bodies out of the sand on the— troops dig in dead bodies out of the sand on the normandy beaches . goodness— the sand on the normandy beaches . goodness mo.— the sand on the normandy beaches . goodness me, i've— the sand on the normandy beaches . goodness me, i've absolutely nothing but absolute admiration and respect for those veterans. and when i compare that to the state of the youth today , some state of the youth today, some of the videos, etcetera, have come in my way. it's got me questioning . do you think it is questioning. do you think it is time to establish a form of modern day national service to

sort it all out and have you been like me today? absolutely gpred been like me today? absolutely gripped to the circus that is prince harry taking the stand. what a day it was. i could tell you if he was expecting oprah winfrey , mark, to if he was winfrey, mark, to if he was expecting to go in there and be agreed with and all the rest of it, he was mistaken . boy, oh, it, he was mistaken. boy, oh, boy. what a trial it is going to be. what do you make to it all? is he right to be taking the press to court and fascinated by this, not least because i myself sued the newspaper group for doing same thing to doing exactly the same thing to me. we'll have all of that to come and read lots more. but first, cross to polly first, let's cross to polly middlehurst with the . news middlehurst with the. news michelle, thank you. good evening. — michelle, thank you. good evening. prince- michelle, thank you. good evening. prince harry has ooouoo— evening. prince harry has accused the— evening. prince harry has accused the former mirror editor piers— accused the former mirror editor piers morgan,— accused the former mirror editor piers morgan, of— accused the former mirror editor piers morgan, of intimidating in saying— piers morgan, of intimidating in soyrrg os— piers morgan, of intimidating in soyrrg as o— piers morgan, of intimidating in saying as a concert prince of orrrgrrg— saying as a concert prince of orrrrgrrrg rrrrs— saying as a concert prince of bringing this claim he and his wife— bringing this claim he and his wife meghan— bringing this claim he and his wife meghan have been subject to a wife meghan have been subject to o barrage— wife meghan have been subject to

o barrage of— wife meghan have been subject to a barrage of horrific— wife meghan have been subject to a barrage of horrific personal attacks.— a barrage of horrific personal attacks rho— a barrage of horrific personal attacks. the duke of sussex gave evidence— attacks. the duke of sussex gave evidence or— attacks. the duke of sussex gave evidence at the— attacks. the duke of sussex gave evidence at the high court in london— evidence at the high court in london against— evidence at the high court in london against the publisher of the london against the publisher of rho darry— london against the publisher of the daily mirror— london against the publisher of the daily mirror over alleged urrowrur— the daily mirror over alleged unlawful information gathering . unlawful information gathering. harry— unlawful information gathering. harry arso— unlawful information gathering. harry also said— unlawful information gathering. harry also said our country is judged— harry also said our country is judged grooouy— harry also said our country is judged globally by the state of our judged globally by the state of press erro— judged globally by the state of our press and our— judged globally by the state of our press and our government, osousrrp— our press and our government, accusing the— our press and our government, accusing the press— our press and our government, accusing the press of having brood— accusing the press of having poor or— accusing the press of having blood on its— accusing the press of having blood on its typing hands. during— blood on its typing hands. during hrs— blood on its typing hands. during his cross—examination rrrerrorroup— during his cross—examination mirror group newspapers denies all mirror group newspapers denies on me— mirror group newspapers denies all the allegations. the court proseeorrros— all the allegations. the court proceedings continue tomorrow . proceedings continue tomorrow. meanwpppe,_ proceedings continue tomorrow. meanwhile, the— proceedings continue tomorrow. meanwhile, the us government wru— meanwhile, the us government wru pe— meanwhile, the us government will be challenged in court over its decision— will be challenged in court over its decision to— will be challenged in court over its decision to give— will be challenged in court over its decision to give the duke of sss— its decision to give the duke of suss o— its decision to give the duke of suss o us— its decision to give the duke of sussex a us visa— its decision to give the duke of sussex a us visa in 2020. that's puer— sussex a us visa in 2020. that's error purse— sussex a us visa in 2020. that's after prince harry's— sussex a us visa in 2020. that's after prince harry's admissions of irrepar— after prince harry's admissions of ruepor drug— after prince harry's admissions of illegal drug use. in his memoir spare. - of illegal drug use. in his memoir spare. it's not known if he summed— memoir spare. it's not known if he admitted his— memoir spare. it's not known if he admitted his drug use for the viso— he admitted his drug use for the visa application.— he admitted his drug use for the visa application. us official pouores— visa application. us official policies dictate— visa application. us official policies dictate that visa oppusorus— policies dictate that visa applicants who are found to be drug— applicants who are found to be drug usr— applicants who are found to be dug or— applicants who are found to be drug users or addicts are rperrprpre— drug users or addicts are ineligible for— drug users or addicts are ineligible for us visas . one of ineligible for us visas. one of ms— ineligible for us visas. one of ms senior— ineligible for us visas. one of itv's senior management team has been— itv's senior management team has been deferring— itv's senior management team has been defending the— itv's senior management team has been defending the company's duty— been defending the company's duty of— been defending the company's duty of sore— been defending the company's duty of care to— been defending the company's duty of care to ailing mps. today— duty of care to ailing mps. today there's— duty of care to ailing mps. today there's a _ duty of care to ailing mps. today there's a significant system —

today there's a significant system ot— today there's a significant system of safeguarding in place at tre— system of safeguarding in place ot the company.— system of safeguarding in place at the company. magnus broke has teet— at the company. magnus broke has been questioned— at the company. magnus broke has been questioned by— been questioned by a parliamentary select committee ortte— parliamentary select committee over the broadcaster's handling of over the broadcaster's handling ot ttttttp— over the broadcaster's handling of phillip schofield affair with a of phillip schofield affair with oyourtger— of phillip schofield affair with oyourtger mote— of phillip schofield affair with a younger male work colleague . a younger male work colleague. mr prote— a younger male work colleague. mr trots otso— a younger male work colleague. mr broke also said— a younger male work colleague. mr broke also said bullying is otsotutety— mr broke also said bullying is absolutely in— mr broke also said bullying is absolutely in breach of itv's company— absolutely in breach of itv's comporty cote— absolutely in breach of itv's company code of conduct . but company code of conduct. but trott— company code of conduct. but amid allegations— company code of conduct. but amid allegations of a toxic work eutrortrrertt— amid allegations of a toxic work environment at— amid allegations of a toxic work environment at the— amid allegations of a toxic work environment at the daytime tv stou— environment at the daytime tv stow ttts— environment at the daytime tv show this morning, itv chief eesutvet— show this morning, itv chief executive dame— show this morning, itv chief executive dame carolyn mccall is due to— executive dame carolyn mccall is due to appear— executive dame carolyn mccall is due to appear before the committee— due to appear before the committee next week to answer turtter— committee next week to answer further questions— committee next week to answer further questions ._ committee next week to answer further questions . downing further questions. downing street— further questions. downing street says— further questions. downing street says the _ further questions. downing street says the government is untrue— street says the government is uttttuo to— street says the government is willing to agree— street says the government is willing to agree another way toruort— willing to agree another way forward rather— willing to agree another way forward rather than lodging a toget— forward rather than lodging a legal challenge— forward rather than lodging a legal challenge against the coup— legal challenge against the covrp troutry— legal challenge against the covrp troutry .— legal challenge against the covid inquiry. the cabinet outse— covid inquiry. the cabinet otttse tos— covid inquiry. the cabinet office has been asked today to present— office has been asked today to present tre— office has been asked today to present the former prime muster,— present the former prime minister, boris- present the former prime minister, boris johnson's rtotetoots— minister, boris johnson's notebooks to— minister, boris johnson's notebooks to the inquiry and get them — notebooks to the inquiry and get them to— notebooks to the inquiry and get them to trem— notebooks to the inquiry and get them to them by— notebooks to the inquiry and get them to them by june the 12th. so them to them by june the 12th. so trey— them to them by june the 12th. so they may— them to them by june the 12th. so they may to— them to them by june the 12th. so they may be compared to retested— so they may be compared to redacted copies— so they may be compared to redacted copies already received . baroness heather— redacted copies already received . baroness heather hallett says ste— . baroness heather hallett says she wort-t— . baroness heather hallett says she worst to— . baroness heather hallett says she won't be commenting on the toget— she won't be commenting on the tepot — she won't be commenting on the tepot mpg-s— she won't be commenting on the legal row. king's for counsel me— legal row. king's for counsel the tmputry—

legal row. king's for counsel the inquiry, hugo keith , says the inquiry, hugo keith, says the inquiry, hugo keith, says the carpet— the inquiry, hugo keith, says the cabinet office is merely seetmp— the cabinet office is merely seetmp to— the cabinet office is merely seeking to ensure that security is seeking to ensure that security ts protested. — seeking to ensure that security is protected. information in the restroom— is protected. information in the national interest— is protected. information in the national interest isn't disclosed— national interest isn't disclosed and mrjohnson has otteret— disclosed and mrjohnson has otteret to— disclosed and mrjohnson has offered to provide the inquiry utm— offered to provide the inquiry with assistance _ offered to provide the inquiry with assistance directly . �*ftr�*rz; ”iii: with assistance directly. we're gretetut— with assistance directly. we're pretetut to— with assistance directly. we're grateful to him _ with assistance directly. we're grateful to him for his cooperation in and the inquiry team has been liaising with his legal team to arrange for the inspection of the unredacted whatsapps that he had provided to the cabinet office, but which he has had returned to him . we he has had returned to him. we expect to begin that inspection this week . the foreign secretary this week. the foreign secretary says damage to a major dam in ukraine is a catastrophe and an abhorrent act . thousands of abhorrent act. thousands of homeowners are— rt thousands of homeowners are being evacuated otter— homeowners are being evacuated otter tute— homeowners are being evacuated otter tupe two— homeowners are being evacuated after huge two mile long dam in southern— after huge two mile long dam in southern ukraine— after huge two mile long dam in southern ukraine was severely damaged. — southern ukraine was severely damaged. ukraine is accusing tussto— damaged. ukraine is accusing tussto ot— damaged. ukraine is accusing russia of blowing it up. but a memtr— russia of blowing it up. but a memetr tor— russia of blowing it up. but a member for putin's united russia party— member for putin's united russia torty ts— member for putin's united russia torty ts ossusmo— member for putin's united russia party is accusing ukraine of carrying— party is accusing ukraine of sorrymp out— party is accusing ukraine of carrying out the— party is accusing ukraine of carrying out the attack. uurttrets— carrying out the attack. hundreds of— carrying out the attack. hundreds of homes, streets and

tusmesses— hundreds of homes, streets and businesses have— hundreds of homes, streets and businesses have been badly ttootet— businesses have been badly ttootet .— businesses have been badly flooded . now— businesses have been badly flooded . now news here at home, flooded. now news here at home, all flooded. now news here at home, at toot— flooded. now news here at home, all boat operations— flooded. now news here at home, all boat operations have been suspended— all boat operations have been suspended off— all boat operations have been suspended off bournemouth pier tottoumo— suspended off bournemouth pier tottoumo tte — suspended off bournemouth pier following the deaths of two young— following the deaths of two young swimmers last week . a young swimmers last week. a tosot— young swimmers last week. a local council— young swimmers last week. a local council spokesperson says the teststou— local council spokesperson says the decision has— local council spokesperson says the decision has been made peremp— the decision has been made peptmp o— the decision has been made pending a conclusion to the pome— pending a conclusion to the police investigation in an mpuest— police investigation in an inquest into— police investigation in an inquest into the deaths of the two— inquest into the deaths of the two youngsters— inquest into the deaths of the two youngsters heard they were part— two youngsters heard they were port ot— two youngsters heard they were port ot o— two youngsters heard they were port ot o group— two youngsters heard they were part of a group thought to have teet— part of a group thought to have teen sought— part of a group thought to have teen caught up— part of a group thought to have been caught up in— part of a group thought to have been caught up in a riptide in the been caught up in a riptide in me set.— been caught up in a riptide in me a— been caught up in a riptide in the sea. a post—mortem examination— the sea. a post—mortem examination proceedings are ottournet— examination proceedings are adjourned until— examination proceedings are adjourned until september. examination proceedings are adjourned until september . the adjourned until september. the pome— adjourned until september. the police watchdog _ adjourned until september. the police watchdog has announced it's police watchdog has announced tt-s tounotet— police watchdog has announced it's launched a— police watchdog has announced it's launched a criminal investigation- it's launched a criminal investigation into the fatal sotttston — investigation into the fatal collision involving a police motoroyote— collision involving a police motorcycle escorting the duchess of motorcycle escorting the duchess ot edinburgh-— motorcycle escorting the duchess of edinburgh. the— motorcycle escorting the duchess of edinburgh. the officer from the of edinburgh. the officer from me spectat— of edinburgh. the officer from the special escort group is being— the special escort group is being investigated on suspicion of being investigated on suspicion ot otustnp— being investigated on suspicion of causing death— being investigated on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving— of causing death by dangerous driving .— of causing death by dangerous driving , os— of causing death by dangerous driving , as well— of causing death by dangerous driving , as well as causing driving, as well as causing teem— driving, as well as causing death ty— driving, as well as causing death by careless driving. 81 year— death by careless driving. 81 year ott— death by careless driving. 81 year old helen— death by careless driving. 81 year old helen holland died otter— year old helen holland died otter being— year old helen holland died after being struck by a police escort— after being struck by a police esoort ttte— after being struck by a police escort bike in— after being struck by a police escort bike in west london last month— escort bike in west london last month .— escort bike in west london last month . ryanair_ escort bike in west london last month . ryanair cancelled 400

month. ryanair cancelled 400 tttotts— month. ryanair cancelled 400 tttgtts totoy— month. ryanair cancelled 400 flights today amid a french air trotte— flights today amid a french air traffic control— flights today amid a french air traffic control strike. some of me— traffic control strike. some of me tmpootet— traffic control strike. some of the impacted flights were to and trom— the impacted flights were to and trom me— the impacted flights were to and trom tne ut— the impacted flights were to and from the uk and— the impacted flights were to and from the uk and ireland. a petttton— from the uk and ireland. a petition calling— from the uk and ireland. a petition calling for the turopeon— petition calling for the european commission to protect tttptts— european commission to protect tttotts or— european commission to protect flights over france _ european commission to protect flights over france during strttes— flights over france during strikes has— flights over france during strikes has so— flights over france during strikes has so far been signed by strikes has so far been signed ty or— strikes has so far been signed ty o— strikes has so far been signed by over a million— strikes has so far been signed by over a million people. the ctr— by over a million people. the ctr tos— by over a million people. the cbi has received— by over a million people. the cbi has received the backing of its cbi has received the backing of tts memerst— cbi has received the backing of its members for— cbi has received the backing of its members for new reforms tntrotuoet— its members for new reforms introduced following a series of sut— introduced following a series of sexual harassment allegations . sexual harassment allegations. tet— sexual harassment allegations. ttyo ot— sexual harassment allegations. ttyo ot vottnp — sexual harassment allegations. 93% of voting members supported the 93% of voting members supported me stronges— 93% of voting members supported the changes ot— 93% of voting members supported the changes at the— 93% of voting members supported the changes at the industry body tntrotuoet— the changes at the industry body introduced in— the changes at the industry body introduced in the— the changes at the industry body introduced in the wake of the storms. — introduced in the wake of the storms. a— introduced in the wake of the claims. a number of companies, tnstuttnp— claims. a number of companies, tnstuttnp john— claims. a number of companies, including john lewis, aviva and pry,— including john lewis, aviva and .py, putt— including john lewis, aviva and .py, out me— including john lewis, aviva and itv, quit the cm— including john lewis, aviva and itv, quit the cbi following the ottepottons— itv, quit the cbi following the allegations as— itv, quit the cbi following the allegations as and finally , a allegations as and finally, a veterans memorial service has teen— veterans memorial service has teen tottnp— veterans memorial service has been taking place today to mark the 79m— been taking place today to mark the 79th anniversary of the t—toy— the 79th anniversary of the d—day landings. the defence secretory— d—day landings. the defence secretory .— d—day landings. the defence secretary , ben— d—day landings. the defence secretary , ben wallace, is in secretary, ben wallace, is in tron— secretary, ben wallace, is in tros tor— secretary, ben wallace, is in france for the _ secretary, ben wallace, is in france for the service , france for the service, otonpstte— france for the service, alongside the french president tmmonuet— alongside the french president emmanuel macron, on the onmrsory— emmanuel macron, on the anniversary of— emmanuel macron, on the anniversary of the 1944 normandy tonttnos— anniversary of the 1944 normandy tonttnos .— anniversary of the 1944 normandy tonttnps . atso— anniversary of the 1944 normandy landings . also in— anniversary of the 1944 normandy landings . also in attendance landings. also in attendance totoy— landings. also in attendance totoy os—

landings. also in attendance today was leon— landings. also in attendance today was leon gautier. he's the tost— today was leon gautier. he's the tost suntvtno— today was leon gautier. he's the last surviving member of the menst— last surviving member of the french commanders who stormed the uormonty— french commanders who stormed the normandy beaches defended by utter-s— the normandy beaches defended by uttter-s troops— the normandy beaches defended by uttter-s troops .— the normandy beaches defended by hitler's troops . what you're up hitler's troops. what you're up to tote— hitler's troops. what you're up to tote on— hitler's troops. what you're up to tote on tv— hitler's troops. what you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio ont— to date on tv online dab+ radio ont tne— to date on tv online dab+ radio ont the tune— to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tune in— to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is gb news. — and the tune in app. this is gb news. tost— and the tune in app. this is gb news. back now— and the tune in app. this is gb news. back now to— and the tune in app. this is gb news. back now to dewbs& co . news. back now to dewbs& co. tnonts— news. back now to dewbs& co. tnonts tor— news. back now to dewbs& co. thanks for that,— news. back now to dewbs& co. thanks for that, polly. - news. back now to dewbs& co. thanks for that, polly. our- thanks for that, polly. our michelle dewberry with you till seven. alongside me, the ceo of the first property group and former brexit party mep ben habib, editor of labour habib, and the editor of labour uncut, atal happ. well good evening, gents. nice to see you both again. you know drill, both again. you know the drill, don't it's not just don't you as well. it's not just about it is very much about us three. it is very much about us three. it is very much about guys at what's about you guys at home. what's on are you on your mind tonight? are you like me? have you been gripped to harry trial? to the prince? harry trial? i worry i'll probably put on worry that i'll probably put on about two stone in all my about two stone today in all my popcorn, shovelling all in, popcorn, shovelling it all in, finding absolutely finding out absolutely fascinating. do you make to fascinating. what do you make to it is right to be doing

it all? is he right to be doing it? do you have sympathy with him? do you think he should shut up and go away? oh, we'll have it come. but i want some it all to come. but i want some of your thoughts that. we'll of your thoughts on that. we'll get a little later on. get to it a little bit later on. worry do you remember were worry not. do you remember were you watching last night where we got the conversation about got into the conversation about the income the universal basic income trial? that £1,600 to trial? remember that £1,600 to do square of nothing? do the square root of nothing? well, onto well, i was invited onto good morning today to debate morning britain today to debate with founder of the trial in with the founder of the trial in question. listen i'm basically totte— question. listen i'm basically nous poverty— question. listen i'm basically nous poverty .— question. listen i'm basically halve poverty . isn't- : i'm basically halve poverty . isn't that halve poverty. isn't that sometmno— halve poverty. isn't that something we should aim for? i usutt— something we should aim for? i would absolutely— something we should aim for? i would absolutely love- something we should aim for? : e well, would absolutely love it. well, then we're agreed. no, we're ogreeu— then we're agreed. no, we're agreed on the on the concept of getting rid of poverty. no one would want children. what's the most effective way you are, the way you seeking to way that you are seeking to achieve that height of achieve that is the height of delusion. height of delusion. it's the height of delusion. it's the height of delusion. it's the height of delusion. it is dining out on other people's money. it's creating false creating an absolute false economy. will this economy. it will set this country for fail. economy. it will set this country for fail . this you country up for fail. this you will will create an will you will create an environment. where's the etttense— environment. where's the evidence base _ environment. where's the evidence base for- where's the evidence base for this? you are tne— evidence base for this? you are the stems— evidence base for this? you are the evidence base. _ evidence base for this? you are the evidence base. well, the stems— the evidence base. well, the evidence base _ the evidence base. well, the evidence base for this basic evidence base for this is basicj common _think evidence base for this is basic. common—think it common sense. well, i think it is. think it is just basic

is. i think it is just basic common sense. i mean, why do i need of this need to have all of this academic experi science and studies and surveys coming out of my eyeballs to be able to conclude something that surely most people is pretty much obvious universal basic income, if you ask me, would de—incentivize work? surely if you all this free you give everyone all this free money, you're going to increase demand side inflation obviously turn us into bunch of lazy turn us into a bunch of lazy so—and—sos. you ask me. turn us into a bunch of lazy so—and—sos. you ask me . and so—and—sos. if you ask me. and when was desperately trying to when i was desperately trying to ascertain pilot , when i was desperately trying to ascertain pilot, ben ascertain beyond the pilot, ben habib, how are you going to fund this ? i had to repeat myself this? i had to repeat myself about four times. i got in trouble for talking over the poor fella, which i do concede. i did a little bit. i think he was interrupting— : : e e i think he was interrupting you. f was interrupting you. actually, it was interrupting you. actually, tt — was interrupting you. actually, it was. thank you, ben. because that's what i was pointing out to people as well. but notwithstanding that, as it went on, him he on, i did keep telling him he was which i don't think was deluded, which i don't think anyone appreciate it, but i thought it was good. anyway, my point to point was, if you're going to propose a trial for universal bafic propose a trial for universal basic then you basic income, then surely you have some thought to have to give some thought to what out of universal

what a roll out of universal bafic what a roll out of universal basic income in this country could look like. first could look like. my first primary funds primary question is who funds it? response got it? and the response i got primary response we got there in the end was that the wealthy are going which why going to fund it, which is why i kept saying, you're deluded, you're a wealthy man. do you want fund £1,600 or any want to fund £1,600 or any amount, quite frankly, to everyone ? one well, of course, everyone? one well, of course, the reottty— everyone? one well, of course, the reottty ts— everyone? one well, of course, the reality is.would- ”gr one well, of course, the reality is would be the reality is we would all be tunttno— the reality is we would all be funding rt.— the reality is we would all be funding it. wouldn't just funding it. it wouldn't just be the funding it. it wouldn't just be tne-t— funding it. it wouldn't just be tne-t tmnt- funding it. it wouldn't just be the-i think the- funding it. it wouldn't just be the i think the wealthy the wealthy. i think the wealthy pay-if— the wealthy. i think the wealthy pav-if vou— the wealthy. i think the wealthy poy-tt you retort- the wealthy. i think the wealthy pay if you regard the pay about 40. if you regard the very— pay about 40. if you regard the very neottty— pay about 40. if you regard the very veottty os— pay about 40. if you regard the very wealthy as those who pay more-utte— very wealthy as those who pay more-45% tax- very wealthy as those who pay. more -45% tax -they more than the 45% tax rate, they pay more than the 45% tax rate, they poy otout— more than the 45% tax rate, they poy otout toys— more than the 45% tax rate, they poy otout toys ot— more than the 45% tax rate, they pay about 40% of all all income tax pay about 40% of all all income to port— pay about 40% of all all income to pott tn— pay about 40% of all all income to pott tn tne— pay about 40% of all all income tax paid in the country. but mot— tax paid in the country. but ttot toes— tax paid in the country. but that does mean— tax paid in the country. but that does mean 60% of the other totes— that does mean 60% of the other income taxes that— that does mean 60% of the other income taxes that we pay are pott— income taxes that we pay are pott ty— income taxes that we pay are paid by pewte— income taxes that we pay are paid by people who aren't as vveottty— paid by people who aren't as veottty os— paid by people who aren't as wealthy as the _ paid by people who aren't as wealthy as the top bracket as you— wealthy as the top bracket as you ute— wealthy as the top bracket as you he, os— wealthy as the top bracket as you he, os rt— wealthy as the top bracket as you like, as it were. so all of us out— you like, as it were. so all of us vttt te— you like, as it were. so all of us will be paying— you like, as it were. so all of us will be paying for it. and utttmotety— us will be paying for it. and ultimately, it— us will be paying for it. and ultimately, it is— us will be paying for it. and ultimately, it is the extremity of ultimately, it is the extremity ot tne— ultimately, it is the extremity of the socialist— ultimately, it is the extremity of the socialist path on which tms— of the socialist path on which ttts sountry— of the socialist path on which this country has— of the socialist path on which this country has been set. i tmnt— this country has been set. i think initially— this country has been set. i think initially by tony blair vttn— think initially by tony blair vvttt ms— think initially by tony blair with his nanny— think initially by tony blair with his nanny state, which torts— with his nanny state, which boris johnson— with his nanny state, which boris johnson upgraded to. i

tessrtte— boris johnson upgraded to. i tessrtte rt— boris johnson upgraded to. i describe it as— boris johnson upgraded to. i describe it as the labour party. tony— describe it as the labour party. tony ttotn— describe it as the labour party. tony ttotr. o— describe it as the labour party. tony blair, a socialist.- describe it as the labour party. tony blair, a socialist. tony, tony. tony blair started the nonny— tony. tony blair started the nonny stote. — tony. tony blair started the nonny stote. .— titty tony blair started the nanny state. i remember the motto— nanny state. i remember the teottt ont— nanny state. i remember the teottt ont .— nanny state. i remember the health and i don't want to stress— health and i don't want to stores too— health and i don't want to digress too much, but he brought in digress too much, but he brought tn teottt— digress too much, but he brought tn teottt ont— digress too much, but he brought in health and safety at work uttere— in health and safety at work vvtere ve— in health and safety at work where we were— in health and safety at work where we were taught that you son-t— where we were taught that you son-t sttmt— where we were taught that you son-t sttmt o— where we were taught that you can't climb a ladder that's more mon— can't climb a ladder that's more tnon ttve— can't climb a ladder that's more than five foot— can't climb a ladder that's more than five foot tall— can't climb a ladder that's more than five foot tall without someone -it. - than five foot tall without someone it. and than five foot tall without- someone-it. and there someone holding it. and there teoon— someone holding it. and there began infanticide rising of began the infanticide rising of self—determination , and self—determination, and tneretore— self—determination, and therefore the _ self—determination, and therefore the legislation starts ont— therefore the legislation starts and therefore _ therefore the legislation starts and therefore the electorate no , nov— and therefore the electorate no , tne— and therefore the electorate no , no, no. the holding of ladders stortet— , no, no. the holding of ladders stoned-tote— , no, no. the holding of ladders started-late 90s- , no, no. the holding of ladders started late 90s under started in the late 90s under ttotr— started in the late 90s under ttotr ont— started in the late 90s under ttotr ont t— started in the late 90s under blair and i remember my eyes rotttno— blair and i remember my eyes rotttno ot— blair and i remember my eyes rotttno ot tt— blair and i remember my eyes rolling at it to— blair and i remember my eyes rolling at it to say— blair and i remember my eyes rolling at it to say i do. :r:::r rolling at it to say i do. i do not— rolling at it to say i do. i do not know— rolling at it to say i do. i do not know when _ rolling at it to say i do. i do not know when the holding of ladders was it in the 70s, was it in the 90s. you guys you guys are smart cookies. you all tell me which ones are right. and we've had absurdity- me which ones are right. and we've had absurdity of- ” q and we've had absurdity of rescue servtses— we've had absurdity of rescue services-being— we've had absurdity of rescue services being prepared to services not being prepared to do services not being prepared to to ttotr— services not being prepared to to ttetr tot— services not being prepared to do their job for— services not being prepared to do their job for health and sotety— do their job for health and safety regulations. and we've not— safety regulations. and we've tot—morst- safety regulations. and we've had—march of. safety regulations. and we've. had—march of the safety regulations. and we've had state, march of the safety regulations. and we've had state, borismarch of the safety regulations. and we've had state, borisjohnson the nanny state, boris johnson tumpet— nanny state, boris johnson trumpet-t— nanny state, boris johnson tumpet-t-ttl nanny state, boris johnson dumped-i-it a. nanny state, boris johnson. dumped-i-it a wet dumped it too. i call it a wet ty— dumped it too. i call it a wet nurse by locking— dumped it too. i call it a wet nurse by locking us at home in prtnttno—mottnol nurse by locking us at home in printing making it printing money and making it possttte— printing money and making it possttte tor— printing money and making it possible for us— printing money and making it possible for us stay at home. possible for us to stay at home. ant— possible for us to stay at home. ant ttts— possible for us to stay at home. ant ttts no— possible for us to stay at home. and this now would be paying us ttterotty— and this now would be paying us ttterotty not— and this now would be paying us literally not to— and this now would be paying us literally not to work. we've

otreoty— literally not to work. we've otreoty pot— literally not to work. we've already got five— literally not to work. we've already got five point record 5.9— already got five point record so mtttton— already got five point record 5.9 million people on benefits. it's 5.9 million people on benefits. tt-s o— 5.9 million people on benefits. tt-s o proton— 5.9 million people on benefits. it's a broken labour market. net votes— it's a broken labour market. net votes otter— it's a broken labour market. net wages after tax— it's a broken labour market. net wages after tax not matched what it wages after tax not matched what tt ts— wages after tax not matched what tt ts you— wages after tax not matched what tt ts you get— wages after tax not matched what tt ts you get on— wages after tax not matched what it is you get on benefits and mere-s— it is you get on benefits and ttere-s no— it is you get on benefits and there's no incentive to work and ttts— there's no incentive to work and ttts vvoutt— there's no incentive to work and this would kill— there's no incentive to work and this would kill the— there's no incentive to work and this would kill the economy. do you— this would kill the economy. do you oppress — this would kill the economy. do you agree? utt— this would kill the economy. do you agree? not with- this would kill the economy. do you agree? \tcie this would kill the economy. do you agree? true you agree? not with ben's point. i'm slightly sceptical about universal basic income as the vehicle to solve poverty, but that about paying people that point about paying people not to work , people have a not to work, people have a reason that they don't work. and we a system already. it's we have a system already. it's called welfare state. that's called the welfare state. that's why we have without reason. this is without reason. we have income support, have income support, we have jobseeker's we have jobseeker's allowance, we have invalidity benefit. this is unconditional— : can c this is unconditional payment. invalidity benefit. this is- unconditional payment. that's vnot— unconditional payment. that's vnot nes— unconditional payment. that's what he's-about. go- unconditional payment. that's what he's-about. go on.- what he's on about. go on. i unterstont— what he's on about. go on. i understand the— what he's on about. go on. i understand the point- go on. i understand the point about untversot— understand the point about universal we universal basic income, but we nove— universal basic income, but we trove-ttot— universal basic income, but we have -that are - universal basic income, but we have -that are that- universal basic income, but we have that are that are have benefits that are that are not conditional— have benefits that are that are not conditional already. now, my sseptts— not conditional already. now, my sseptts tsm— not conditional already. now, my sceptic ism about— not conditional already. now, my sceptic ism about universal tosts— sceptic ism about universal tosts tnsome— sceptic ism about universal basic income is— sceptic ism about universal basic income is more about prosttsot— basic income is more about practical implementation . you practical implementation. you poy— practical implementation. you poy tor— practical implementation. you poy tor tt— practical implementation. you can pay for it in— practical implementation. you can pay for it in that if eveonery— can pay for it in that if everyone gets- can pay for it in that if everyone gets £1,600, the morotnot— everyone gets £1,600, the marginal rate _ everyone gets £1,600, the marginal rate of tax goes up and the neotttne— marginal rate of tax goes up and

the headline rate— marginal rate of tax goes up and the headline rate of tax goes up- — the headline rate of tax goes up. ant— the headline rate of tax goes up. ant ttot— the headline rate of tax goes up. and that creates incentive ettests— up. and that creates incentive effects, which _ up. and that creates incentive effects, which i— up. and that creates incentive effects, which i think might be prottemotts— effects, which i think might be problematic if— effects, which i think might be problematic if we've got tax rote— problematic if we've got tax rote tox— problematic if we've got tax rate tax rates— problematic if we've got tax rate tax rates at— problematic if we've got tax rate tax rates at a sort of 70, so,— rate tax rates at a sort of 70, so, you— rate tax rates at a sort of 70, to, you son— rate tax rates at a sort of 70, to, you poy— rate tax rates at a sort of 70, 80, you can pay for it. but the pottttsot— 80, you can pay for it. but the political trouble— 80, you can pay for it. but the political trouble of implementing this, if you want to-prottems— implementing this, if you want to-problems,-way,j to solve problems, by the way, you— to solve problems, by the way, you sont — to solve problems, by the way, you can't. right?— to solve problems, by the way, you can't. right? so- to solve problems, by the way,- you can't. right? so -was you can't. right? so what i was trying to explain this morning is total tax take in is that the total tax take in this country is about £1 trillion. right. benefits spend is about a quarter , 250 of. is about a quarter, 250 of. that's right. if you then start saying that everyone over the age of 18 gets £1,600 a month, i did my calculation an it would cost 950 billion. so you're pretty much it would cost you the entirety there or thereabouts of your tax intake in this country. that's all. i'm not— in this country. that's all. i'm not soytnt— in this country. that's all. i'm not saying sufficiently- " rttitr. that's all. i'm not saying sufficiently good to do not saying sufficiently good to to ttot. — not saying sufficiently good to to ttot. to— not saying sufficiently good to do that. do it— not saying sufficiently good to do that. do it on— not saying sufficiently good to do that. do it on do- not saying sufficiently good to do that. jrzzr e lift“ :r:::r do that. do it on do the calculations on the spend . born calculations on the spend. born in britain very early cit" born in britain very early before tit“ born in britain very early before my ttrst— in britain very early before my ttrst sottee, — in britain very early before my first coffee, i— in britain very early before my first coffee, i confess. but i tttnt— first coffee, i confess. but i tttnt t— first coffee, i confess. but i tttnt t os— first coffee, i confess. but i think i was right. i saw. i saw. i think i was right. i saw. i saw. t sov— think i was right. i saw. i saw. i saw some modelling of it. well, what a national implementation in the uk would look like. and it basically we

had everyone had the income but our our our tax take our tax, our base, our tax take goes up because the rates go up. but taxing some of but we're also taxing some of this that everyone's this income that everyone's got. so of just sort of, you so kind of it just sort of, you know, money in, money comes know, money goes in, money comes out. the universal out. so well. the universal bafic out. so well. the universal basic thing can basic income. so the thing can be broadly, fiscally neutral, but i it does have it will but i think it does have it will have effects. it's not have incentive effects. it's not broadly and that's— have incentive effects. it's not broadly and that's what- “bi.“ 5 it's not broadly and that's what they sott. — broadly and that's what they sott. |reot— broadly and that's what they said. iread this— broadly and that's what they said. read this fella's whole said. i read this fella's whole 63 said. i read this fella's whole to poses— said. i read this fella's whole to poses-report- said. i read this fella's whole 63 pages report and on that, 63 pages of report and on that, tm — 63 pages of report and on that, tm tetttnt— 63 pages of report and on that, tm tetttnt you.— 63 pages of report and on that, i'm telling you, i— 63 pages of report and on that, i'm telling you, i read it with a i'm telling you, i read it with o reotty— i'm telling you, i read it with o reotty teen— i'm telling you, i read it with a really keen eye.— i'm telling you, i read it with a really keen eye. so i did. and i a really keen eye. so i did. and ttount— a really keen eye. so i did. and i found information, it i found so much information, it toot— i found so much information, it toot-two— i found so much information, it took-two years- i found so much information, it took-two years to- i found so much information, it took two years to come up took them two years to come up vvttn— took them two years to come up vvttt ttts— took them two years to come up with this study,— took them two years to come up with this study, two full years to toure— with this study, two full years to ttture tt— with this study, two full years to figure it out. _ with this study, two full years to figure it out. there was torety— to figure it out. there was torety o— to figure it out. there was barely a note— to figure it out. there was barely a note on there about how it barely a note on there about how tt-tuntet. — barely a note on there about how tt-tuntet. ves- barely a note on there about how it-funded. yes, they. it would be funded. yes, they sott— it would be funded. yes, they sottlvoutt— it would be funded. yes, they said would neutral. was said it would be neutral. was tne— said it would be neutral. was the - neutral? - said it would be neutral. was the-neutral? i- said it would be neutral. was the neutral? i don't the word cost neutral? i don't tetteve— the word cost neutral? i don't tetteve tt— the word cost neutral? i don't believe it. it— the word cost neutral? i don't believe it. it didn't wash with me— believe it. it didn't wash with me then. — believe it. it didn't wash with me then. tt— believe it. it didn't wash with me then. it doesn't wash with me tut— me then. it doesn't wash with me tut tne— me then. it doesn't wash with me now. but the most— me then. it doesn't wash with me now. but the most important thing in my objection about universal basic income, the sort of raw about it, is of the scale of raw about it, is such that just increase the level of benefits people on benefits are barely getting by. inflation is at 25. it's got to

pay inflation is at 25. it's got to pay to work. we've broken the sonoy to — pay to work. we've broken the sonoy to you— pay to work. we've broken the economy. do you not- we've broken the economy. do you not realise that peopte— economy. do you not realise that peopte ore— economy. do you not realise that peopte not— economy. do you not realise that people are not working because it people are not working because tt toesn-t— people are not working because tt toesn-t poy— people are not working because tt toesn-t poy to— people are not working because it doesn't pay to work and you wont— it doesn't pay to work and you wont to— it doesn't pay to work and you want to increase— it doesn't pay to work and you want to increase benefits? you wont— want to increase benefits? you wont to — want to increase benefits? you wont to toss— want to increase benefits? you want to close that— want to increase benefits? you want to close that gap? we have peopte— want to close that gap? we have peopte nove— want to close that gap? we have peopte tove to— want to close that gap? we have people have to and— want to close that gap? we have people have to and we have unemployment— people have to and we have unemployment rate that's amongst the tovvest— unemployment rate that's amongst the lowest levels— unemployment rate that's amongst the lowest levels of— the lowest levels of unemployment only measures a mtttton— unemployment only measures a million vacancies— unemployment only measures a million vacancies in the economy . tmptoyment— million vacancies in the economy . tmptoyment onty— million vacancies in the economy . employment only measures those peopte— . employment only measures those peopte vvto— . employment only measures those peopte vto ore— . employment only measures those people who are looking for work. we people who are looking for work. its vvo-ve— people who are looking for work. its tot— people who are looking for work. its tot o— people who are looking for work. we we've got a record 5.9 mtttton— we we've got a record 5.9 million people- we we've got a record 5.9 million people on universal srettt. — million people on universal srettt. ant— million people on universal credit. and we— million people on universal credit. “: credit. and we have a problem where we've got people who are out of the workforce because they've got illnesses, they've got long term issues and that needs to be addressed. it's a benefit net. it's a net- : :5rr: : it's a benefit net. it's a net benefit net poy— benefit net. it's a net benefit versus net pay problem. . versus net pay problem. it's rust— versus net pay problem. it's tust otout— versus net pay problem. it's just about incentives. and cutting benefits will get people back to work. then you fly in the face of all of the evidence andifs the face of all of the evidence and it's palpably absurd. we've got some of the lowest, i'm afraid, highest, the most absurd debate i've ever had on the economy gaps. let me ask you a stmpte— economy gaps. let me ask you a stmpte ouestton— economy gaps. let me ask you a simple question. if— i q let me ask you a simple question. if someone sonnot— simple question. if someone cannot physically then cannot physically work, then totr— cannot physically work, then totr enough.— cannot physically work, then fair enough. there's a welfare stote— fair enough. there's a welfare

stote to— fair enough. there's a welfare state to provide _ fair enough. there's a welfare state to provide and protect mose— state to provide and protecti those—voutt those people. no one would ttspute— those people. no one would ttspute-tt— those people. no one would dispute if somebody can. dispute that. if somebody can. so dispute that. if somebody can. so ttot— dispute that. if somebody can. so ttot your— dispute that. if somebody can. so that you're physically able to wort.— so that you're physically able to wort. so— so that you're physically able to work, so -fit- so that you're physically able to work, so fit and to work, so you're fit and toothy.— to work, so you're fit and neottny. you— to work, so you're fit and healthy, you don't have caring responsibilities,— healthy, you don't have caring responsibilities, you can work, tut—not— responsibilities, you can work, tut—notlto- responsibilities, you can work,| tut—notlto you but you choose not to. do you tttnt— but you choose not to. do you think-should— but you choose not to. do you think-should be- but you choose not to. do you think should be to think you should be able to noos— think you should be able to stoose-to— think you should be able to choose-to-on- think you should be able to- choose -to .on benefits? choose then to live on benefits? to.— choose then to live on benefits? to. no— choose then to live on benefits? to. ot— choose then to live on benefits? no, no, of course— choose then to live on benefits? no, no, of course-so- choose then to live on benefits? no, no, of course “ti;”ti; no, no, of course not. so there snoutt— no, no, of course not. so there should not only not only should be not only not only should be not only not only should should be an should they should there be an assumption if you can, assumption of work, if you can, but also when you pin people are in work. work should pay. that means a higher minimum wage . means a higher minimum wage. that credits well . that means tax credits as well. we've to make it easier to we've got to make it easier to get into without penalties. get into work without penalties. more burden business, more more burden on business, more inflation, more need to print money, more socialism and a complete collapse of the economy by constrained supply and one of the greatest supply constraints we're country are we're facing in this country are labour because people labour shortages because people are sitting at home taking benefits, not getting into work because taxes are too high and taxes too high because taxes are too high because they're nanny they're paying for the nanny state. that's opinion . but state. that's your opinion. but it's fact. and you're entitled it's a fact. and you're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled fake facts. and the entitled to fake facts. and the evidence does not bear that out at all. national debt all time

high— at all. national debt all time high toes— at all. national debt all time high taxes, all— national debt all time high taxes, all time high number hiin taxes, all time hiin number of high taxes, all time high number ot peopte— high taxes, all time high number ot peopte out— high taxes, all time high number ot peopte out ot— high taxes, all time high number of people out of full time work, all of people out of full time work, ott ttme— of people out of full time work, ott ttme ttotr.— of people out of full time work, all time high. we— of people out of full time work, all time high. we don't have unemptoyment— all time high. we don't have unemployment problem in this sountry— unemployment problem in this sountry ot— unemployment problem in this sountry ot tne— unemployment problem in this country at the moment. we are operottnt— country at the moment. we are operottnt ttts— country at the moment. we are operating this economy, this sonoy— operating this economy, this sonoy . ont— operating this economy, this economy , and it's a conservative economy, and it's a conservative sovemment — economy, and it's a conservative sovemment tt— economy, and it's a conservative government. it is— economy, and it's a conservative government. . “q government. it is operating at full employment. the quality of work isn't right. it's not full employment. too many who employment. too many people who are economically inactive but are economically inactive. but to just cutting to say that just cutting benefits would incentivise people by chucking people out on the i say that and the streets, i say that and i didn't say that at all. lviv cruelty will make people work. i think is ridiculous. to pay people for doing- “

work or that whilst you're - between-need support, between jobs, you need support, ttot— between jobs, you need support, that—different. that is a completely different disagreement— that is a completely different disagreement to— that is a completely different disagreement to something around the disagreement to something around tne—o— disagreement to something around the—a universal- the mechanics of a universal tosts— the mechanics of a universal tosts tnsome— the mechanics of a universal basic income where actually i mtttt— basic income where actually i might-sceptical,- basic income where actually i might sceptical, but might i said i'm sceptical, but the ortument— might i said i'm sceptical, but the argument you're mounting is otout— the argument you're mounting is otout tne— the argument you're mounting is about the welfare— the argument you're mounting is about the welfare state. ' “t: �*" about the welfare state. and if peopte— about the welfare state. and if peopteltnts— about the welfare state. and if people this country, if you people in this country, if you don't the argument to don't think the argument to have a that's fine, a welfare state, that's fine, but use the cover of but don't use the cover of a universal argument to make universal basic argument to make that argument. i mounting is the ot— that argument. i mounting is the inverse of what— that argument. i mounting is the inverse of what you're— 5q i mounting is the inverse of what you're saying. tm — inverse of what you're saying. tm -vvtot— inverse of what you're saying. tm-vvtot tm— inverse of what you're saying. i'm what i'm saying is i'm saying what i'm saying is you— i'm saying what i'm saying is you-sut— i'm saying what i'm saying is you-sut totes- i'm saying what i'm saying is you-cut taxes to- you need to cut taxes to incentivise _ you need to cut taxes to incentivise people to get into vort— incentivise people to get into vortlttot— incentivise people to get into work .thatlpays- incentivise people to get into work that pays to work. work so that it pays to work. uten— work so that it pays to work. when-tet— work so that it pays to work. when - get into - work so that it pays to work. when get into work, they'll when they get into work, they'll be when they get into work, they'll te—ttey- when they get into work, they'll te—ttey vvttt- when they get into work, they'll be_they will be i be bigger taxes. they will be tttter— be bigger taxes. they will be tttter tox— be bigger taxes. they will be bigger tax take.— be bigger taxes. they will be bigger tax take. there will be a tttter— bigger tax take. there will be a taster tox— bigger tax take. there will be a taster tov tote— bigger tax take. there will be a bigger tax take and there will be bigger tax take and there will to toss— bigger tax take and there will to toss nest— bigger tax take and there will be less need for— bigger tax take and there will be less need for government to mm— be less need for government to fund benefits.— be less need for government to fund benefits. that's point, fund benefits. that's the point, rttttt — fund benefits. that's the point, rttttt -— fund benefits. that's the point, rttttt . nets- fund benefits. that's the point, right? i right? well, hello, welcome to dewbs& co everybody. it has to pay dewbs& co everybody. it has to pay to work, says atoll. yes of course it does. but actually, for many people it doesn't matter what the pay would be. quite frankly, if you asked me, they everything they would do everything possible and dodge it. possible to try and dodge it. universal basic income was the question i wanted to ask you about. would you support it? do you think it would help this economy or simply as i think it

would hinder it? your thoughts on that quick break. when i come back, i'll get some of your responses, but also i've got lots and lots and lots. prince harry, i want to talk to you. shoplifting to talk to shoplifting i want to talk to you about service and you about national service and more. anywhere .

across the uk. this is i this is newsradio across the uk. this is newsradio . hello there. i'm i this is newsradio . “ti;”ti; i'm michelle . hello there. i'm michelle tevvterry— . hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with— . hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you - . ”t“tii; i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. tve — dewberry with you till 7:00. tve tot— dewberry with you till 7:00. tve got my— dewberry with you till 7:00. i've got my boxing gloves ready. tve-re— i've got my boxing gloves ready. tve-re tomo— i've got my boxing gloves ready. tve-re totnt tor— i've got my boxing gloves ready. we're going for it— i've got my boxing gloves ready. we're going for it in part two, tto— we're going for it in part two, sto ot— we're going for it in part two, sto ot ttrst— we're going for it in part two, ceo of first property group, ben tottt— ceo of first property group, ben tottt keeps— ceo of first property group, ben habib keeps me— ceo of first property group, ben habib keeps me company, as does the etttor— habib keeps me company, as does the etttor ot— habib keeps me company, as does the editor of labour— habib keeps me company, as does the editor of labour uncut, atal homet— the editor of labour uncut, atal uotvett. ton.— the editor of labour uncut, atal hatwell. now, you— the editor of labour uncut, atal hatwell. now, you might be aware by hatwell. now, you might be aware ty no— hatwell. now, you might be aware ty ttot— hatwell. now, you might be aware by now that today— hatwell. now, you might be aware by now that today is a 79th onntversory— by now that today is a 79th anniversary of— by now that today is a 79th anniversary of the d—day tonttnts— anniversary of the d—day landings where thousands of men sosrtttset— landings where thousands of men sacrificed their— landings where thousands of men sacrificed their lives for the treoter— sacrificed their lives for the treoter toot— sacrificed their lives for the treoter toot . — sacrificed their lives for the greater good . ' “t: sacrificed their lives for the greater good . ' ”ti;i“tii“ sacrificed their lives for the- greater good . and remember, most greater good. and remember, most we should never forget is seeing our troops digging the dead bodies out of the sand on the normandy beaches . as bernard

normandy beaches. as bernard enttstet— normandy beaches. as bernard enttstet on— normandy beaches. as bernard enlisted on his— normandy beaches. as bernard enlisted on his 18th— t: i as bernard enlisted on his 18th birthday, tetermtnet— enlisted on his 18th birthday, determined to— enlisted on his 18th birthday, determined to play his part, he trotnet— determined to play his part, he was trained up— determined to play his part, he was trained up as— determined to play his part, he was trained up as a code breaker . ant— was trained up as a code breaker . ant on— was trained up as a code breaker . ant on t—toy— was trained up as a code breaker . and on d—day, he— was trained up as a code breaker . and on d—day, he was the youngest— . and on d—day, he was the youngest tsat— . and on d—day, he was the youngest raf sergeant to land in uormonty— youngest raf sergeant to land in uormonty .— youngest raf sergeant to land in uormonty . tur— youngest raf sergeant to land in normandy. our bernard morgan. wnot— normandy. our bernard morgan. wnot o— normandy. our bernard morgan. wnot o mon— normandy. our bernard morgan. wnot o t— normandy. our bernard morgan. what a man. i don't— normandy. our bernard morgan. what a man. i don't know- normandy. our bernard morgan. what a man. i don't know about you, but when i see these kind of veterans, i do. i get goosebumps on my arms. i just have so much respect for them, what they've been through, the horrific experience is, and i really kind of treasure hearing their stories as well, particularly as we kind of get to the point where we have so few kind of those early day veterans left. and i always hope that we don't ever forget their stories, that was d—day veteran bernard morgan talking to us exclusively here at gb news. now, when i think about that generation of men, and i think about how much i respect them, quite frankly , i then do quite frankly, i then do contrast it to some of what goes on in today's society. look at this . look at

on in today's society. look at this. look at this. i mean, look at the state of it, guys. these are two fellas in the broad daylight just walking brazen as anything into a shop, picking up whatever it is that they feel like, shoving it under their arms and charging out of the door. arms and charging out of the door . oh, that is arms and charging out of the door. oh, that is a arms and charging out of the door . oh, that is a really arms and charging out of the door. oh, that is a really odd story, by the way, because the ceo of that business fired the two shop assistants for getting involved. he says he's got a company policy that you don't intervene matters like that. intervene in matters like that. it's safety first. you stand back, find odd back, which i find very odd because you're to tell because if you're going to tell your to intervene, your workers not to intervene, aren't you just then opening it up for people just wander up for people to just wander into and you and into your store and rob you and into your store and rob you and in daylight all a bit in broad daylight all a bit weird if you ask but the weird if you ask me. but the flip side of that is would you be a assistant and tackle be a shop assistant and tackle robbers? not robbers? i'm not sure if i would, but it all gets me thinking on the broader point of the of the day. yes i know the youth of the day. yes i know that there some decent ones that there are some decent ones among them, but there many among them, but there are many that not respect law and that do not respect law and order. not respect order. do not respect their elders. people will elders. and many people will call for a return to national

service or a modern day national service. do you think we could have that, ben? well, i when i was younger, i was a great advocate for bringing back national service . i thought it national service. i thought it was a natural— national service. i thought it was a natural that- national service. i thought it was a natural that we- titi; i thought it was a natural that we should be doing-— was a natural that we should be totnt. vou— was a natural that we should be doing. you know,— was a natural that we should be doing. you know, we've we've testmotet— doing. you know, we've we've testmotet our— doing. you know, we've we've decimated our armed forces. tve-ve— decimated our armed forces. tve-vs uset— decimated our armed forces. we've used the— decimated our armed forces. we've used the peace dividend repeotetty— we've used the peace dividend repeotetty to— we've used the peace dividend repeatedly to enrich ourselves ont— repeatedly to enrich ourselves ont tote— repeatedly to enrich ourselves ont tote ovoy— repeatedly to enrich ourselves and take away the security ttontet— and take away the security blanket that— and take away the security blanket that actually ensures the blanket that actually ensures tne pose— blanket that actually ensures the peace. and— blanket that actually ensures the peace. and i— blanket that actually ensures the peace. and i thought a reotty— the peace. and i thought a reotty toot— the peace. and i thought a really good way of getting lots of really good way of getting lots ot peopte.— really good way of getting lots ot peopte. you— really good way of getting lots of people, you know , off of people, you know, off tenettts— of people, you know, off benefits, for— of people, you know, off benefits, for example , and into benefits, for example, and into totntut— benefits, for example, and into some gainful employment and tnteet— some gainful employment and tnteet tne— some gainful employment and indeed the rest— some gainful employment and indeed the rest of the poputotton— indeed the rest of the population trained up and ready to ttttt— population trained up and ready to ttttt tt— population trained up and ready to ttttt t we— population trained up and ready to fight if we need them to tom.— to fight if we need them to ttttt. voutt— to fight if we need them to fight, would be— to fight if we need them to fight, would be through national servtse. — fight, would be through national servtse. tut— fight, would be through national servtse. tut t— fight, would be through national service. but i have— fight, would be through national service. but i have spoken to tots— service. but i have spoken to| tots—ton-t service. but i have spoken to- tots—ton-t lots of servicemen who don't see it lots of servicemen who don't see tt os— lots of servicemen who don't see tt os postttvety— lots of servicemen who don't see it as positively as— lots of servicemen who don't see it as positively as as— lots of servicemen who don't see it as positively as as that, you mow.— it as positively as as that, you know. trey— it as positively as as that, you know. they see— it as positively as as that, you know, they see it— it as positively as as that, you know, they see it as a kind of tmposttton— know, they see it as a kind of tmposttton on— know, they see it as a kind of imposition on the— know, they see it as a kind of imposition on the armed forces, a imposition on the armed forces, o turten— imposition on the armed forces, o turten ttot— imposition on the armed forces, a burden that would have to a burden that they would have to sorry— a burden that they would have to sorry-tots— a burden that they would have to sorry-tots ot— a burden that they would have to carry lots of untrained , carry taking lots of untrained, tttttsutt— carry taking lots of untrained, difficult, perhaps , people they difficult, perhaps, people they vvouttn-t— difficult, perhaps, people they wouldn't otherwise recruit into a sophisticate— wouldn't otherwise recruit into a sophisticate and nimble army ttot— a sophisticate and nimble army ttot voutt— a sophisticate and nimble army that would be— a sophisticate and nimble army that would be held back by it.

tut— that would be held back by it. tut t— that would be held back by it. tut t you— that would be held back by it. but i you know,— that would be held back by it. but i you know, my heart says mere-s— but i you know, my heart says ttere-s o— but i you know, my heart says ttere-s o tot— but i you know, my heart says there's a lot to— but i you know, my heart says there's a lot to be— but i you know, my heart says there's a lot to be said for it. tttero— there's a lot to be said for it. there ts— there's a lot to be said for it. there is also— there's a lot to be said for it. there is also another aspect , i there is also another aspect, i suppose.— there is also another aspect, i suppose. to— there is also another aspect, i suppose. to tt— there is also another aspect, i suppose, to it, which is i'm a treot— suppose, to it, which is i'm a treot proponent— suppose, to it, which is i'm a great proponent of the state tetnt— great proponent of the state tetnt ve— great proponent of the state tetnt us— great proponent of the state being we, us being weaned off the stote— being we, us being weaned off the state and— being we, us being weaned off the state and the— being we, us being weaned off the state and the state ceasing to tntertere— the state and the state ceasing to interfere in— the state and the state ceasing to interfere in our— the state and the state ceasing to interfere in our lives. and of course, national service vvoutt— of course, national service voutt te— of course, national service would be another imposition of the stote— would be another imposition of the stote tn— would be another imposition of the state in our— would be another imposition of the state in our lives . ' “t: the state in our lives. and i gotnt— the state in our lives. and i going to— the state in our lives. and i was going to say, but that's the absolute epitome of the nanny state. well, i mean, i think i rssontsts— state. well, i mean, i think i ssotntss potss— state. well, i mean, i think i recognise pages to- well, i mean, i think i recognise pages to go on nottonot— recognise pages to go on national service. / national service. yeah. but sometimes in life we have our position and then actually you can flex. have can bend and flex. have exceptions. yeah- ti5“ have exceptions. yeah there are can bend and flex. have- exceptions. yeah there are some svsspttons— exceptions. yeah there are some exceptions rather— exceptions. yeah there are some exceptions rather than being a nont— exceptions rather than being a nest. t— exceptions rather than being a norm. t om— exceptions rather than being a tent. t on o— exceptions rather than being a right, i am a this— exceptions rather than being a right, i am a this or am in right, i am a this or i am in ttot— right, i am a this or i am in trot-or— right, i am a this or i am in trot-or t— right, i am a this or i am in trot-or t om— right, i am a this or i am in that-or i am that- right, i am a this or i am in that or i am that because that box or i am that because there— that box or i am that because there ts— that box or i am that because there ts no— that box or i am that because there is no denying that some of there is no denying that some of ms stutt— there is no denying that some of the stuff that— there is no denying that some of the stuff that goes— there is no denying that some of the stuff that goes on in our soststy— the stuff that goes on in our soststy no— the stuff that goes on in our society now would the eyes society now would make the eyes of society now would make the eyes ot-ttoss— society now would make the eyes ot-ttoss trsot- society now would make the eyes of those great chaps of many of those great chaps ttot— of many of those great chaps trot-rust— of many of those great chaps that just referencing that i was just referencing ttsrs— that i was just referencing there..would_ that i was just referencing there. would make their eyes there. it would make their eyes ts — there. it would make their eyes ts -vos— there. it would make their eyes voter-tos o— there. it would make their eyes water.-was a huge- there. it would make their eyes water. was a huge lack of water. there was a huge lack of rsspsst— water. there was a huge lack of rsspsst-mony— water. there was a huge lack of rsspsst-mony tn- water. there was a huge lack of respect many in our respect among many in our soststy.— respect among many in our society-think- respect among many in our. society.-think there society. don't you think there is society. don't you think there ts . — society. don't you think there ts . t— society. don't you think there ts . t tntnt— society. don't you think there is. i think there's- society. don't you think there is. i think there's two points. we sort of think of the past as a time when things were calmer and there was less crime, but

that's just not really motty in the first part of the 20th century. is the sort of century. this is the sort of 19005. century. this is the sort of 1900s. the wouldn't go 1900s. the police wouldn't go into parts east london, into parts of east london, wouldn't go into shoreditch unless of them, unless there was 6 or 7 of them, because they were worried because they were that worried about being attacked. but it's just there no media. there just there was no media. there was reporting, no was no reporting, was no reporting of crime lower. so reporting of crime was lower. so it's case that in the it's not the case that in the past it some great, great past it was some great, great sort peaceful sort of peaceful idyll. and i think on the point on national service, it was the army service, this it was the army that lobbied heavily. that lobbied very heavily. i think was in 63, six, 1963. think it was in 63, six, 1963. it was abolished in 1960. it was the army lobbied most the army that lobbied most heavily because what to do with so many unwise going, frankly, sort of diffident young people when the has also got a job to do. it's got tasks to do . i do. it's got tasks to do. i think the question is the right question. i think national service is the wrong answer. i think in our modern society where we have such a more a more developed education system, if the question is not being answered, actually the reform is to our education system. to give people sense structure, people a sense of structure, civic civic duty , civic civic rights, civic duty, civic

sense. but that needs to be run through national service has to be military. so what you could do be military. so what you could to ts— be military. so what you could to ts you— be military. so what you could do is you could— be military. so what you could do is you could take- l 53 so what you could do is you could take this untvsrsot— do is you could take this universal basic- do is you could take this universal basic income thing, vttst— universal basic income thing, vttst tm— universal basic income thing, which i'm opposed to en masse. vou— which i'm opposed to en masse. vou soutt— which i'm opposed to en masse. vou soutt soy— which i'm opposed to en masse. you could say-to- which i'm opposed to en masse. you could say to everyone you could say right to everyone otst. — you could say right to everyone otst. -tnovv— you could say right to everyone otst. -tnovv .— you could say right to everyone aged. know , whatever. aged. i don't know, whatever. vou— aged. i don't know, whatever. you-ptst— aged. i don't know, whatever. you-ptst your— aged. i don't know, whatever. you pick your age, 18 to you can pick your own age, 18 to 19, you can pick your own age, 18 to to. you— you can pick your own age, 18 to to. you nove— you can pick your own age, 18 to rt. you tovs to— you can pick your own age, 18 to 19, you have to do— you can pick your own age, 18 to 19, you have to do a— you can pick your own age, 18 to 19, you have to do a compulsory ysor— 19, you have to do a compulsory ysor or— 19, you have to do a compulsory year or actually— 19, you have to do a compulsory year or actually don't even make it year or actually don't even make tt somputsory— year or actually don't even make tt somputsory .— year or actually don't even make it compulsory , right? you can do it compulsory, right? you can do a it compulsory, right? you can do oysor— it compulsory, right? you can do o ysor ot— it compulsory, right? you can do a year of national— it compulsory, right? you can do a year of national service. it tossn-t— a year of national service. it doesn't necessarily have to be mttttory— doesn't necessarily have to be mttttory-son— doesn't necessarily have to be military,-can be - doesn't necessarily have to be military, can be military military, but it can be military if military, but it can be military tt you— military, but it can be military tt you-soutt- military, but it can be military if you-could be- if you want. it could be sommuntty— if you want. it could be community based. it could be, i ton-t— community based. it could be, i ton-t know.— community based. it could be, i don't know, whatever . we can all don't know, whatever. we can all sit don't know, whatever. we can all stt ont— don't know, whatever. we can all sit and brainstorm _ don't know, whatever. we can all sit and brainstorm it, but you son-posts— sit and brainstorm it, but you can-basic income- sit and brainstorm it, but you can basic income for while can get a basic income for while you— can get a basic income for while you to— can get a basic income for while you to tt— can get a basic income for while you to t. ant— can get a basic income for while you do it. and objective of you do it. and the objective of tts— you do it. and the objective of ttts ts— you do it. and the objective of ttts ts to— you do it. and the objective of this is to foster— you do it. and the objective of this is to foster community rstottons— this is to foster community rstottons .— this is to foster community relations , get— this is to foster community relations , get people i'm relations, get people i'm sounttnt— relations, get people i'm sounding like— relations, get people i'm sounding like a little bit. i'm mottnt— sounding like a little bit. i'm mottnt mysstt— sounding like a little bit. i'm making myself smile when i'm soytnt— making myself smile when i'm soytnt some— making myself smile when i'm soytnt ot— making myself smile when i'm saying some of these nice, nuttotts— saying some of these nice, huggable terms, but what i want to soy— huggable terms, but what i want to soy ts— huggable terms, but what i want to soy ts tm— huggable terms, but what i want to soy ts t-m trytnt— huggable terms, but what i want to say is i'm trying to you to say is i'm trying to make you not-ttttts— to say is i'm trying to make you not-little bleep.- to say is i'm trying to make you not little bleep. and i'm not be a little bleep. and i'm conscious that— not be a little bleep. and i'm conscious that it's— not be a little bleep. and i'm conscious that it's teatime. so tm — conscious that it's teatime. so t-m trytnt— conscious that it's teatime. so t-m trytnt to— conscious that it's teatime. so i'm trying to think of all these mss— i'm trying to think of all these sott— i'm trying to think of all these sott. nutty— i'm trying to think of all these nice, soft, huggy to say nice, soft, huggy words to say vvtot— nice, soft, huggy words to say vvtotlmeon— nice, soft, huggy words to say vtotlmson. — nice, soft, huggy words to say vtotlmson. t— nice, soft, huggy words to say whatimean. ithink- nice, soft, huggy words to say what mean. i“ i“ what i mean. i think in in i think was there a role think there was there was a role in sort of 50s or 60s, maybe

in the sort of 50s or 60s, maybe even the 70s. i think if our kids are going through the education 16, education system through to 16, through and have through to 18 and don't have that sense civic purpose and that sense of civic purpose and civic it's the civic sense, it's through the education can that's education system we can that's the best lever because to have that on top in their teens costs money. then they have there's a huge there's an administrative overhead and then how is it measured? because it's such a short intervention, whereas if it's in school and they've got all of that wrapped around, if not but then of touch not care, but then sort of touch points teachers and support. points of teachers and support. but there was many. there are mony— but there was many. there are mony young— but there was many. there are many young people , me being one many young people, me being one of many young people, me being one ot mem.— many young people, me being one ot ttsm. t— many young people, me being one of them. i couldn't— many young people, me being one of them. i couldn't get out of sstoot— of them. i couldn't get out of sstoot tost— of them. i couldn't get out of school fast enough, quite trontty— school fast enough, quite frankly, couldn't out of frankly, i couldn't get out of sstoot— frankly, i couldn't get out of sstoot-vos— frankly, i couldn't get out of school was supposed to frankly, i couldn't get out of- school-was supposed to be school when i was supposed to be there— school when i was supposed to be mere-enough.— school when i was supposed to be there-enough,-mind. there quick enough, never mind trytnt— there quick enough, never mind trytnt-ms— there quick enough, never mind trytnt-ms ttsrs- trying to keep me there afterwards. _ trying to keep me there afterwards. one of my afterwards. jim, one of my vtsvsrslont- afterwards. jim, one of my viewers,-and-are viewers, you and i, we are otttnst— viewers, you and i, we are otttnst. my— viewers, you and i, we are aligned, my friend, because you say,— aligned, my friend, because you soy-stoutt- aligned, my friend, because you soy-stoutt ts- say, yes, there should be some torm— say, yes, there should be some form-national— say, yes, there should be some form national service. form of national service. tsrtops— form of national service. tsrtopslsoys- form of national service. perhaps says in perhaps he says not in a mttttory— perhaps he says not in a military sense,- perhaps he says not in a military sense, but a compulsory ssrvtss— military sense, but a compulsory ssrvtsslvvttsn— military sense, but a compulsory service which people service in which young people spent—they- service in which young people spent—ttsy tol service in which young peoplei spent—ttsy 90 to spend a year before they go to .ors— spend a year before they go to .ors you— spend a year before they go to uni. are you assuming they uni. why are you assuming they voutt— uni. why are you assuming they voutt nest— uni. why are you assuming they voutt nsstlto— uni. why are you assuming they would need-go to— uni. why are you assuming they would need go to uni? you would need to go to uni? you sott— would need to go to uni? you sott tnsy— would need to go to uni? you said they could— would need to go to uni? you said they could plant trees, stson— said they could plant trees, clean graffiti,— said they could plant trees, clean graffiti, et cetera. et sstsro— clean graffiti, et cetera. et sstsro to—

clean graffiti, et cetera. et cetera. do you— clean graffiti, et cetera. et cetera. do you have a teenage nap— cetera. do you have a teenage tttt to— cetera. do you have a teenage tttt to you— cetera. do you have a teenage kid? do you have,— cetera. do you have a teenage kid? do you have, i don't know, tssnots— kid? do you have, i don't know, teenage grandkids? do you think ttsy-t— teenage grandkids? do you think ttsy-t-ont— teenage grandkids? do you think they'd-and about- teenage grandkids? do you think they'd and about cleaning they'd be out and about cleaning off they'd be out and about cleaning ott-trotttttt— they'd be out and about cleaning off-graffiti?-for- off the graffiti? he says for mtntmum— off the graffiti? he says fori minimum—david off the graffiti? he says for- minimum_david says minimum wage? and david says somslttsss— minimum wage? and david says some these people are some of these people are tnsopotts— some of these people are incapable saving any one but incapable of saving any one but ttsmsstvss— incapable of saving any one but ttsmsstvss. t— incapable of saving any one but themselves. i spent years in themselves. i spent 12 years in tns— themselves. i spent 12 years in tne-ont— themselves. i spent 12 years in tne-ont tts— themselves. i spent 12 years in tne-ont tt-s o- themselves. i spent 12 years in the and it's a lifestyle the army, and it's a lifestyle ssotss.— the army, and it's a lifestyle stotss. ts— the army, and it's a lifestyle choice, he says,— the army, and it's a lifestyle choice, he says, wishing to serve.— choice, he says, wishing to serve. not— choice, he says, wishing to serve, not be— choice, he says, wishing to serve, not be self servant. ray soys— serve, not be self servant. ray soys ttsrs-s— serve, not be self servant. ray says there's no— serve, not be self servant. ray says there's no we— serve, not be self servant. ray says there's no we in the army do says there's no we in the army to not— says there's no we in the army to not nont— says there's no we in the army do not want them.— says there's no we in the army do not want them. why should we? the do not want them. why should we? the youth— do not want them. why should we? the youth ot— do not want them. why should we? the youth of today— do not want them. why should we? the youth of today are self—centred- the youth of today are self—centred and entitled , said self—centred and entitled, said seven.— self—centred and entitled, said stsvsn. ant— self—centred and entitled, said steven. and it's— self—centred and entitled, said steven. and it's our fault if we met— steven. and it's our fault if we trtst to— steven. and it's our fault if we trtst to ttvs— steven. and it's our fault if we tried to give them— steven. and it's our fault if we tried to give them what we never tot.— tried to give them what we never not. t— tried to give them what we never not. t tttnt— tried to give them what we never had. i think that's— tried to give them what we never had. i think that's a— tried to give them what we never had. i think that's a quite interesting— had. i think that's a quite interesting point here because i do interesting point here because i to trunk— interesting point here because i do think sometimes when i look at do think sometimes when i look ot tns— do think sometimes when i look ot tns youtt— do think sometimes when i look ot the youth ot— do think sometimes when i look at the youth of the— do think sometimes when i look at the youth of the day, i do tint.— at the youth of the day, i do tntnt. vett— at the youth of the day, i do think, well, where are the poems— think, well, where are the porsnts tn— think, well, where are the parents in all— think, well, where are the parents in all of this? what are they— parents in all of this? what are they totntt— parents in all of this? what are they doing? what— parents in all of this? what are they doing? what is going on in ot— they doing? what is going on in some of those— they doing? what is going on in some of those homes? yes, i know you— some of those homes? yes, i know you-tett— some of those homes? yes, i know you-tstt ms— some of those homes? yes, i know you-tell me that— some of those homes? yes, i know you tell me that some of you can tell me that some of moss— you can tell me that some of those tomes— you can tell me that some of those homes are— you can tell me that some of those homes are disrupted, but mony— those homes are disrupted, but monyor-s— those homes are disrupted, but monyor-s not.- those homes are disrupted, buti many-are not.-are many of them are not. what are moss— many of them are not. what are those porsnts— many of them are not. what are those parents up— many of them are not. what are those parents up to? why are so mony— those parents up to? why are so mony psopts— those parents up to? why are so mony psopts rust— those parents up to? why are so many people just turning into rontuns— many people just turning into wrong'uns?-me- many people just turning into- wrong'uns?-me anyway. wrong'uns? if you ask me anyway. toot.— wrong'uns? if you ask me anyway. toot. trtnss— wrong'uns? if you ask me anyway. look, prince harry— wrong'uns? if you ask me anyway. look, prince harry in— wrong'uns? if you ask me anyway. look, prince harry in court totoy— look, prince harry in court totoy. vvoutt— look, prince harry in court today. would you watching ? did today. would you watching? did you-ttt— today. would you watching? did you-ttt ars— today. would you watching? did you-ttt are you- today. would you watching? did

you it? are you sitting you follow it? are you sitting there— you follow it? are you sitting there -jubes?- you follow it? are you sitting there-jubes? i- you follow it? are you sitting there jubes? i didn't there thinking jubes? i didn't votsn— there thinking jubes? i didn't votsn-t— there thinking jubes? i didn't votst-t os- there thinking jubes? i didn't watch i was grafting. watch any of it. i was grafting. vtstt— watch any of it. i was grafting. vtstt. worry— watch any of it. i was grafting. well, worry not— watch any of it. i was grafting. well, worry not because we will be well, worry not because we will ts-tnto — well, worry not because we will ts-tnto ott— well, worry not because we will be-into all of- well, worry not because we will be-into all of that- well, worry not because we will be into all of that in be getting into all of that in two— be getting into all of that in two minutes.— be getting into all of that in two minutes. i— be getting into all of that in two minutes. i want your thoughts— two minutes. i want your thoughts even thoughts on it. should it even be thoughts on it. should it even ts tnsrst— thoughts on it. should it even be there? should— thoughts on it. should it even be there? should have taken be there? should he have taken it be there? should he have taken time— be there? should he have taken time voy— be there? should he have taken it.the way-courts- be there? should he have taken it the way courts or it all the way to the courts or

on gb news, the people's channel. britain is watching . channel. britain is watching. hello there. i'm michelle tsvtsrry— hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with _ hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you - “ti;”ti; i'm michelle dewberry with you until 7:00 tontttt— dewberry with you until 7:00 tonight alongside the ceo of ttrst— tonight alongside the ceo of ttrst mopsrty— tonight alongside the ceo of first property group, ben habib, and first property group, ben habib, ont tts— first property group, ben habib, and the editor— first property group, ben habib, and the editor labour uncut and the editor of labour uncut at and the editor of labour uncut ot totvstt— and the editor of labour uncut ot totvstt .— and the editor of labour uncut at hatwell . now,— and the editor of labour uncut at hatwell . now, prince harry, at hatwell. now, prince harry, of course, was— at hatwell. now, prince harry, of course, was in— at hatwell. now, prince harry, of course, was in court today. ttt— of course, was in court today. ttt you— of course, was in court today. ttt you see— of course, was in court today. ttt you ony— of course, was in court today. did you see any of it? i have to say— did you see any of it? i have to soy o— did you see any of it? i have to soy o port— did you see any of it? i have to soy o port ot— did you see any of it? i have to soy o port ot tt— did you see any of it? i have to say a part of it did— did you see any of it? i have to say a part of it did make me smtts— say a part of it did make me smtts onty— say a part of it did make me smile only because cause i do tttnt— smile only because cause i do tttnt ttot— smile only because cause i do think that actually prince harry has think that actually prince harry nos-tot— think that actually prince harry nos-totlrun- think that actually prince harry has-hadlrun of- has probably had a run of advertorials_ has probably had a run of advertorials as— has probably had a run of advertorials as opposed to being stottsntst— advertorials as opposed to being snottsntst on— advertorials as opposed to being challenged on some of the things that challenged on some of the things ttot ts— challenged on some of the things ttot ts soys. — challenged on some of the things that he says. anyway, it was tutts— that he says. anyway, it was outts tox— that he says. anyway, it was quite box office,— that he says. anyway, it was quite box office, really. i've got— quite box office, really. i've got to— quite box office, really. i've got to soy. — quite box office, really. i've got to say. there- quite box office, really. i've got to say. there was all kinds of allegations— got to say. there was all kinds of allegations flying going orount— of allegations flying going around-room- of allegations flying going around-room .- of allegations flying going around-room . i- of allegations flying going around room . i particularly around the room. i particularly ttnt— around the room. i particularly ttnt-tutts— around the room. i particularly find quite interesting . ben find this quite interesting. ben tott— find this quite interesting. ben habib, because— find this quite interesting. ben habib, because i've been through a

habib, because i've been through o-stmttor— habib, because i've been through a-similar process— habib, because i've been through a-similar process to- habib, because i've been through a similar process to prince a very similar process to prince tony.— a very similar process to prince uorry. tn— a very similar process to prince uorry. tn-vs— a very similar process to prince harry. in-we share- a very similar process to prince harry. in we share the harry. in fact, we share the tovvysr— harry. in fact, we share the same lawyer-i- harry. in fact, we share the same lawyer i found all this same lawyer. so i found all this tntsrssttnt— same lawyer. so i found all this tntsrssttnt .— same lawyer. so i found all this tntsrssttnt . t— same lawyer. so i found all this interesting . i settled out of interesting. i settled out of soutt.— interesting. i settled out of sourt. us— interesting. i settled out of court. he has— interesting. i settled out of court. he has obviously taken his court. he has obviously taken ttslsourt— court. he has obviously taken his-court and— court. he has obviously taken his-court and i— court. he has obviously taken his-court and i in- court. he has obviously taken his court and i in two minds his to court and i in two minds otout— his to court and i in two minds otout tt— his to court and i in two minds otout tt. tns— his to court and i in two minds about it. one of— his to court and i in two minds about it. one of my viewers, ssots.— about it. one of my viewers, ssonts. tss-s— about it. one of my viewers, george, he's just— about it. one of my viewers, george, he's just messaged me ont— george, he's just messaged me ont sott— george, he's just messaged me ont sott. tony.— george, he's just messaged me and said, harry, today, one vort— and said, harry, today, one word, pathetic.— and said, harry, today, one word, pathetic. i hope he loses the word, pathetic. i hope he loses tns ssorts— word, pathetic. i hope he loses the george there. _ word, pathetic. i hope he loses the george there. got no sympotny— the george there. got no sympotny .— the george there. got no sympatby - so- the george there. got no sympathy . so i have to say, i'm sympathy. so i have to say, i'm rsottnt— sympathy. so i have to say, i'm rsottnt. tm— sympathy. so i have to say, i'm reading, i'm looking at you all. tstto— reading, i'm looking at you all. tstto soys— reading, i'm looking at you all. della says he's— reading, i'm looking at you all. della says he's in— reading, i'm looking at you all. della says he's in a fantasy vvortt— della says he's in a fantasy world. karen— della says he's in a fantasy world. karen says he's a law unto— world. karen says he's a law unto himself— world. karen says he's a law unto himself .— world. karen says he's a law unto himself . not much sympathy unto himself. not much sympathy somtnt— unto himself. not much sympathy somtnt tmoutt— unto himself. not much sympathy coming through for— unto himself. not much sympathy coming through for harry. i do nove— coming through for harry. i do tovs o— coming through for harry. i do have a little— coming through for harry. i do have a little bit— coming through for harry. i do have a little bit of sympathy for have a little bit of sympathy tor mm.— have a little bit of sympathy tor ttm. totoy— have a little bit of sympathy for him. okay. i— have a little bit of sympathy for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you— for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you tor— for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you tor vty— for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you tor vty tn— for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you for why in a- for him. okay. i do. i'll tell you for why in a minute, cause i ttot— you for why in a minute, cause i can see that your— you for why in a minute, cause i can see that your face is toottnt— can see that your face is toottnt ot— can see that your face is looking at me- can see that your face is looking at me like i'm daft. so you— looking at me like i'm daft. so you tett— looking at me like i'm daft. so you tstt ms— looking at me like i'm daft. so you tell me what— looking at me like i'm daft. so you tell me what you're tttnttnt— you tell me what you're thinking. i'm— you tell me what you're thinking. i'm going to tell you why— thinking. i'm going to tell you why t— thinking. i'm going to tell you why t tttnt— thinking. i'm going to tell you why i think the— thinking. i'm going to tell you why i think the i— thinking. i'm going to tell you why i think the i would have sympotty— why i think the i would have sympotny tor— why i think the i would have sympathy for the vast majority of sympathy for the vast majority ot-vvto — sympathy for the vast majority of-who .their- sympathy for the vast majority of-who .their livesi of people who had their lives tntrutst— of people who had their lives intruded into— of people who had their lives intruded into .the - of people who had their lives intruded into the press. cj�*" intruded into by the press. of t— intruded into by the press. of course i would.— intruded into by the press. of course i would-this- intruded into by the press. of course i would-this is- intruded into by the press. of course i would-this is a. course i would. but this is a man notwithstanding all his man who, notwithstanding all his pubuc man who, notwithstanding all his public pronunciations against wanting the limelight is wanting the limelight on him, is someone who's brought the limelight and his

limelight onto himself and his wife and his children in perhaps, you know, a really pernicious way, in a way that no one would welcome it. and yet he bangs on about the difficulties associated with being in the pubuc associated with being in the public eye and bringing this court case. what is it at the end of the what is the end game with this case? it's a with this court case? it's a monetary case. ultimately, it's about them damages. about suing them for damages. and he's short of cash. so and he's not short of cash. so if so offended and by the if he's so offended and by the way, he's been treated by the press, he really ought to stay out of the public eye, stop doing this. so the bit that i ttnt— doing this. so the bit that i find conflicting— doing this. so the bit that i find conflicting in- :it “q so the bit that i find conflicting in all of this is find conflicting in all of this ts t— find conflicting in all of this ts t tntnt— find conflicting in all of this is i think that— find conflicting in all of this is i think that actually this is ot— is i think that actually this is ot o— is i think that actually this is more of a principle thing than a ttnonstot— more of a principle thing than a financial thing. _ more of a principle thing than a financial thing. i— more of a principle thing than a financial thing. i mean, let's be financial thing. i mean, let's ts honest.— financial thing. i mean, let's be honest. the— financial thing. i mean, let's be honest. the guy's absolutely mtntst— be honest. the guy's absolutely mtntst. so— be honest. the guy's absolutely mtntst. to t— be honest. the guy's absolutely minted. so i don't— be honest. the guy's absolutely minted. so i don't think he's sttttnt— minted. so i don't think he's sitting there— minted. so i don't think he's sitting there going, oh yeah, now— sitting there going, oh yeah, now son— sitting there going, oh yeah, now t— sitting there going, oh yeah, now t tst— sitting there going, oh yeah, how can i get a— sitting there going, oh yeah, how can i get a few bob? i think it's how can i get a few bob? i think tt-s mors— how can i get a few bob? i think it's more about— how can i get a few bob? i think it's more about principle. and when— it's more about principle. and when t— it's more about principle. and when t mtnt— it's more about principle. and when i think back to why took when i think back to why i took ostton— when i think back to why i took action newspapers, action against the newspapers, it action against the newspapers, tt—tmpostl it was because of the impact ttot— it was because of the impact ttotltot— it was because of the impact ttotlnot on— it was because of the impact thatlhad on my- it was because of the impact that had on my life. i spent that it had on my life. i spent my— that it had on my life. i spent my ysors— that it had on my life. i spent my years wondering who had tstroyst— my years wondering who had tstroyst -out- my years wondering who had betrayed-out of- my years wondering who had betrayed out of all of betrayed me, who out of all of my site.— betrayed me, who out of all of my strsts. not— betrayed me, who out of all of my circle, had let— betrayed me, who out of all of my circle, had let me down. so

mtnts— my circle, had let me down. so tttnts tor— my circle, had let me down. so tttnts tor ms— my circle, had let me down. so things for me were— my circle, had let me down. so things for me were leaked to the pess— things for me were leaked to the psss mtnts— things for me were leaked to the psss tttnts-t— things for me were leaked to the press, things-i was- press, things like i was prstnont— press, things like i was pregnant and- press, things like i was pregnant and did not want pregnant and i did not want yos— pregnant and i did not want yos to— pregnant and i did not want anyone to -and- pregnant and i did not want anyone to and was pregnant and i did not want- anyone to -and .was front anyone to know. and it was front page— anyone to know. and it was front pots ss— anyone to know. and it was front pots ont— anyone to know. and it was front page news and that was my prtvots— page news and that was my prtvots nsvvs— page news and that was my private news. nobody knew about trot.— private news. nobody knew about ttot. tnty— private news. nobody knew about ttot. tnty o— private news. nobody knew about that. only a couple— private news. nobody knew about that. only a couple of people tnso— that. only a couple of people tnsvv otout— that. only a couple of people knew about-then- that. only a couple of people knew about then you knew about that. so then you tmmsttotsty— knew about that. so then you immediately going, well, immediately start going, well, vtot— immediately start going, well, snot-ons— immediately start going, well, vtot-ons ot— immediately start going, well, who?-one of you. - immediately start going, well, who? one of you. it's one who? it's one of you. it's one of who? it's one of you. it's one ot-vou— who? it's one of you. it's one ot-vou ttsn— who? it's one of you. it's one of-you then lose- who? it's one of you. it's one of you then lose trust. of you. you then lose trust. i vouttn-t— of you. you then lose trust. i wouldn't dare— of you. you then lose trust. i wouldn't dare people, because i thought— wouldn't dare people, because i thought to— wouldn't dare people, because i thought to myself,— wouldn't dare people, because i thought to myself, well, are they— thought to myself, well, are they tomo— thought to myself, well, are they totnt to.— thought to myself, well, are they going to, you know, sell out— they going to, you know, sell outlstory— they going to, you know, sell outlstory t— they going to, you know, sell out. story ? three - they going to, you know, sell out story ? three members of my out a story? three members of my own-tootst— out a story? three members of my own-lookedlthem- out a story? three members of my own looked them and own family, i looked at them and i own family, i looked at them and t—ant- i questioned them. and i thought.— i questioned them. and i thought. ts— i questioned them. and i thought, is you? have you thought, is it you? have you tott— thought, is it you? have you tott-ns— thought, is it you? have you told-he-them?l thought, is it you? have you. told-he-them? and thought, is it you? have you- told-he-them? and it told him as he told them? and it motes— told him as he told them? and it notes you— told him as he told them? and it makes you paranoid. but tttststts— makes you paranoid. but michelle, you— makes you paranoid. but michelle, you genuinely wanted to-ot— michelle, you genuinely wanted to-ot tts— michelle, you genuinely wanted to-of the public- michelle, you genuinely wanted to of the public eye at to stay out of the public eye at ttot— to stay out of the public eye at ttot potnt. — to stay out of the public eye at that point. well,— to stay out of the public eye at that point. flittill t:tit“ . to stay out of the public eye at that point. flittill :it“ c q that point. well, don't forget. yeah but this chap doesn't. but let's be honest, just let's be honest, i'd just come off let's be honest, i'd just come ott o— let's be honest, i'd just come ott o rsottty— let's be honest, i'd just come off a reality-show- let's be honest, i'd just come off a reality show at the off a reality tv show at the potnt— off a reality tv show at the potntltnot— off a reality tv show at the point-that time,- off a reality tv show at the point that time, you point at that time, which you non-t— point at that time, which you non-t ttt— point at that time, which you won.-i did win,- won. i think i did win, ostuotty— won. i think i did win, actually. yes- won. i think i did win, actually. yes thank you. but. so i actually. yes thank you. but. so t son-t— actually. yes thank you. but. so t son-t ts— actually. yes thank you. but. so t son-t ts too— actually. yes thank you. but. so i can't be too hypocritical otout— i can't be too hypocritical otout tt— i can't be too hypocritical about it because i was in the puttts— about it because i was in the public domain,— about it because i was in the public domain, because i was on a-ty_ public domain, because i was on o-tv stovv. — public domain, because i was on a-tv show. .what- public domain, because i was on a-tv show.-what i'mi a reality tv show. but what i'm soytnt— a reality tv show. but what i'm soytntltt— a reality tv show. but what i'm soytntltt you— a reality tv show. but what i'm saying if you listen to this saying is, if you listen to this tstto— saying is, if you listen to this tstt-mow.— saying is, if you listen to this fella,-know, this- saying is, if you listen to this fella, know, this has gone fella, you know, this has gone onlo— fella, you know, this has gone onlo-tont— fella, you know, this has gone onia-long time,- fella, you know, this has gone on a long time, from 91 on for a very long time, from 91 to zon- — on for a very long time, from 91 to zon- ant— on for a very long time, from 91 to 2011. and he— on for a very long time, from 91 to 2011. and he-up- on for a very long time, from 91 to 2011. and he up some to 2011. and he brings up some of to 2011. and he brings up some

ot tts— to 2011. and he brings up some ot tns stutt— to 2011. and he brings up some of the stuff that— to 2011. and he brings up some of the stuff that saying. he of the stuff that i'm saying. he felt of the stuff that i'm saying. he tstt poronott— of the stuff that i'm saying. he felt paranoid-his- of the stuff that i'm saying. he felt paranoid his own felt paranoid around his own tostors— felt paranoid around his own tostors. t— felt paranoid around his own doctors. i think— felt paranoid around his own doctors. i think there's also tts— doctors. i think there's also tne-mtnts— doctors. i think there's also. the -things-are the three things with him are the three things with him are tne-tts— the three things with him are tne-nts mum.- the three things with him are the-his mum, his. the three things with him are- the-his mum, his mum the context. his mum, his mum dies being chased by paparazzi. he loses mum in that way. he loses his mum in that way. every relationship he had from when he was a child and through to his teens , through his 20s, to his teens, through his 20s, he had his phone hacked and information of that was put into the press. now, whether it is all whether some of what what he's saying in in the action today with the with mirror group is right or whether it's other newspapers he had that he has had a life of deep paranoia insecurity because he hasn't known who he can trust. just like you've you've described . like you've you've described. and that's part of the context why he reacts. and i think it's entirely understandable when, regardless of whether you think he and meghan markle are sort of caught publicity or not, it's really difficult when you're right in the in the eye of the storm. and he has seen that he has a particular perspective on that. this is a story of his that. and this is a story of his life. and i think it's not about money because it's if it's

money because if it's if it's money, simplest way to would money, the simplest way to would settle, brother did and settle, like his brother did and just and cash it in. this is about justice. and he wants he wants a judgement. what is the justice these people, these journalists the judge in 1990s they've all retired. they're gone. well the justice is that he can say to people it was us hacking not that he's got and non—disclosure agreement and not not that it was not that it was suspected these people hacked his phone but if it was hacking were found guilty in law if it's a hacking allegation, that's a criminal complaint point, that's that should go through law enforcement. it shouldn't go through— enforcement. it shouldn't go through o— enforcement. it shouldn't go through a civil— ti;”ti.ti; it shouldn't go through a civil action, a civil ostton— through a civil action, a civil action ultimately is about tomotss— action ultimately is about tomotss . — action ultimately is about damages. but- action ultimately is about damages. e i action ultimately is about damages. e e e action ultimately is about damages. e e damages. but isn't it isn't it to the point where what you want or what i wanted is i wanted an acknowledgement. i want an apology. so i had statements read out in court and all the rest of it acknowledging what happened me. but yours wasn't happened to me. but yours wasn't a happened to me. but yours wasn't o srtmtnot— happened to me. but yours wasn't a criminal allegation. _ : but yours wasn't a criminal allegation. what toppenet— a criminal allegation. what toppenet to— a criminal allegation. what happened to me? it- a criminal allegation. : i“ti7 it was a criminal allegation. : i“ti;7 it was your. happened to me? it was your. your happened to me? it was your. tour rtttts. — happened to me? it was your. your rights. you're— happened to me? it was your. your rights. you're a- : i“ti;7 it was your.

your rights. you're a law wasn't trotsn— your rights. you're a law wasn't trotsn tn— your rights. you're a law wasn't trotsn tn tts— your rights. you're a law wasn't broken in the breaching of your sontttsnsss— broken in the breaching of your confidences. _ broken in the breaching of your confidences . my— broken in the breaching of your confidences . iiy i broken in the breaching of your confidences . i t: confidences. my case was quite similar to some of the essences of his case about phone hacking. you know , voicemail, where you you know, voicemail, where you hacked, you were hacked . private hacked, you were hacked. private investigators were put on to me, like, honestly, sitting saying, i'm not trying to draw parallels between me and harry, but some of the stuff that i'm seeing coming out of this case, i sit there and think it is wrong. there and i think it is wrong. it wrong . who do you think it is wrong. who do you think you are in the media to have behaved in that way? who do you think you are to sell stuff to try and generate your own personal gain off the back of information that frankly, you should not have had access to? and because he has his own resources, because this is a trontty— resources, because this is a frankly minted— resources, because this is a frankly minted and is going to be frankly minted and is going to ts tun.— frankly minted and is going to ts tun. ns— frankly minted and is going to ts tun. ts ts— frankly minted and is going to be fun, he is one— frankly minted and is going to be fun, he is one of the few psopts— be fun, he is one of the few psopts vto — be fun, he is one of the few people who can— be fun, he is one of the few people who can take that stand. omer— people who can take that stand. otter peopte.— people who can take that stand. otter psopts. you— people who can take that stand. other people, you know . other people, you know. but why is other people, you know. but why tslnot— other people, you know. but why tslnot-wny— other people, you know. but why is not why did you is he not brought why did you not bring a criminal complaint against people? well, i against these people? well, i tooki against these people? well, i took i advice against these people? well, i took i-advice from - against these people? well, i took i-advice from the. took i took advice from the torrtstsr— took i took advice from the barrister-the— took i took advice from the barrister the time, which is barrister at the time, which is tts— barrister at the time, which is me some— barrister at the time, which is the same barrister that harry's got the same barrister that harry's tot-toppsns— the same barrister that harry's tot-toppsns ant- the same barrister that harry's

got happens. and we got as it happens. and we sstttst— got as it happens. and we sstttst-ot— got as it happens. and we settled of court, we settled out of court, so we tttn-t— settled out of court, so we tttn-t mots— settled out of court, so we didn't make it— settled out of court, so we didn't make it to court because we rust— didn't make it to court because we tust tttn-t— didn't make it to court because we just didn't for— didn't make it to court because we just didn't for various reasons. i'm restricted into a ttttts— reasons. i'm restricted into a ttttts ttt— reasons. i'm restricted into a ttttts ttt ot— reasons. i'm restricted into a little bit of what— reasons. i'm restricted into a little bit of what i can say, tut— little bit of what i can say, tut t— little bit of what i can say, tut t toot— little bit of what i can say, but i took the— little bit of what i can say, but i took the advice of my tovvysrs— but i took the advice of my lawyers based— but i took the advice of my lawyers based on the case as it stoot— lawyers based on the case as it stoot ot— lawyers based on the case as it stoot ot tts— lawyers based on the case as it stood at the time,— lawyers based on the case as it stood at the time, pressing it as stood at the time, pressing it os vett— stood at the time, pressing it os vstt. ont— stood at the time, pressing it as well, and what had happened and as well, and what had happened ont vtot— as well, and what had happened and what hadn't— as well, and what had happened and what hadn't happened. and for and what hadn't happened. and tor ms— and what hadn't happened. and tor tt— and what hadn't happened. and tor tt os— and what hadn't happened. and for me, it was always was. i vvontst— for me, it was always was. i vvontst t— for me, it was always was. i wanted i lived— for me, it was always was. i wanted i lived years of my life not trusttnt— wanted i lived years of my life not trusting people. i lived ysors— not trusting people. i lived ysors ot— not trusting people. i lived ysors ot my— not trusting people. i lived years of my life, didn't from psopts— years of my life, didn't from people detached— years of my life, didn't from people detached from people all i people detached from people all t uset— people detached from people all t usst to— people detached from people all t usst to te— people detached from people all i used to be called— people detached from people all i used to be called like a cold ttst— i used to be called like a cold ttst ont— i used to be called like a cold ttst ont ott— i used to be called like a cold fish and all the— i used to be called like a cold fish and all the rest of it. and it fish and all the rest of it. and tt os— fish and all the rest of it. and it was because— fish and all the rest of it. and it was because i— fish and all the rest of it. and it was because i was fearful of peopte.— it was because i was fearful of psopts. t— it was because i was fearful of psopts. r not— it was because i was fearful of people. i had all— it was because i was fearful of people. i had all my hair black. i people. i had all my hair black. tos— people. i had all my hair black. ts t— people. i had all my hair black. ts t os— people. i had all my hair black. i was i was blonde_ people. i had all my hair black. i was i was blonde on the apprsnttss— i was i was blonde on the apprsnttss. t— i was i was blonde on the apprentice. i dyed all my hair ttost— apprentice. i dyed all my hair black because— apprentice. i dyed all my hair black because i— apprentice. i dyed all my hair black because i didn't like it. i black because i didn't like it. t tttn-t— black because i didn't like it. t tttn-t ttte— black because i didn't like it. i didn't like the— black because i didn't like it. i didn't like the attention. and ttte— i didn't like the attention. and ttts—t— i didn't like the attention. and ttts—t vent- i didn't like the attention. and like—i went on. like prince harry, i went on to vvrtts— like prince harry, i went on to vrtts o— like prince harry, i went on to vrtts o toot.— like prince harry, i went on to write a book, my— like prince harry, i went on to write a book, my autobiography, onytttnt— write a book, my autobiography, onytntnt ts— write a book, my autobiography, anything is possible. it's ovottotts— anything is possible. it's available in— anything is possible. it's available in all good charity stops.— available in all good charity stops. t— available in all good charity shops. i think— available in all good charity shops. i think it's about £0.10. tou— shops. i think it's about £0.10. uov tm— shops. i think it's about £0.10. not t-m tomo— shops. i think it's about £0.10. not t-m totnt to— shops. i think it's about £0.10. now i'm going to write a sequel sottst— now i'm going to write a sequel sottst ttttt— now i'm going to write a sequel called bleep me.— now i'm going to write a sequel called bleep me. i— now i'm going to write a sequel called bleep me. i was wrong. tut— called bleep me. i was wrong. tut onyvoy— called bleep me. i was wrong. tut onyvoy. t— called bleep me. i was wrong. tut onyvoy. t to— called bleep me. i was wrong. but anyway, i do understand and the but anyway, i do understand and ms sssss— but anyway, i do understand and the essence that— but anyway, i do understand and the essence that he's got of trytnt— the essence that he's got of trytnt to— the essence that he's got of trytnt to tots— the essence that he's got of trying to take control of that

orrottvs — trying to take control of that orrottvs .— trying to take control of that narrative . you've you've narrative. if you've if you've not— narrative. if you've if you've not stutt— narrative. if you've if you've not stutt 90 — narrative. if you've if you've had stuff go on— narrative. if you've if you've had stuff go on to you and psopts— had stuff go on to you and psopts vrtts — had stuff go on to you and people write about you and all the people write about you and all me rest— people write about you and all me rsst ot— people write about you and all the rest of.trying_ people write about you and all the rest of trying to take the rest of it trying to take ovvnsrsttp— the rest of it trying to take ownership of _ the rest of it trying to take ownership of that. yeah. i“ ownership of that. yeah. i mean, i ownership of that. yeah. i mean, t mtnt— ownership of that. yeah. i mean, t tntnt yure— ownership of that. yeah. i mean, i think you're being a bit too generous to harry because he's. yeah, you know, yeah, i do. you know, harry wasn't wronged in the way that you were over a specific, you know, events. he's know, a series of events. he's his is about life his complaint is about life generally, and he's an incredibly privileged human being. he's always complaining at all. he'll comment about ttttsrsnt— at all. he'll comment about different things,— he'll comment about different things, but he has tons— different things, but he has tons to— different things, but he has tons to soutt— different things, but he has gone to court over a very spssttts— gone to court over a very specific point,- gone to court over a very specific point, which is that his specific point, which is that nts pnons— specific point, which is that his phone was— specific point, which is that his phone was hacked and he's not tts— his phone was hacked and he's not me my— his phone was hacked and he's not the only one— his phone was hacked and he's not the only one there. i think ttsrs-s— not the only one there. i think ttsrs-slor— not the only one there. i think ttsrs-slor a. — not the only one there. i think there'sior 4. hugh- not the only one there. i think there's or 4. hugh grant's in there's 3 or 4. hugh grant's in mere— there's 3 or 4. hugh grant's in there os— there's 3 or 4. hugh grant's in there as well. _ there's 3 or 4. hugh grant's in there as well. and— there's 3 or 4. hugh grant's in there as well. and they're doing trts— there as well. and they're doing ttts to— there as well. and they're doing ttts to mots— there as well. and they're doing this to make the— there as well. and they're doing this to make the and have this to make the point and have a this to make the point and have otutts— this to make the point and have otutts nuts— this to make the point and have otutts ruts ont— this to make the point and have a judge rule and have something on-rssort— a judge rule and have something on-record about— a judge rule and have something on record about people being on the record about people being ostuotty— on the record about people being ostuotty tuttty— on the record about people being actually guilty in— on the record about people being actually guilty in in. i think if actually guilty in in. i think tt sme— actually guilty in in. i think if some individual broke the law , then they should have law enforcement brought on them. you know, in harry's case, you make of it. i have to say, it's ttvtttnt— of it. i have to say, it's dividing you— e i have to say, it's dividing you guys at home. ttsrs-s— dividing you guys at home. ttsrs-s not— dividing you guys at home. there's not a— dividing you guys at home. there's not a lot of sympathy for there's not a lot of sympathy tor uorry. — there's not a lot of sympathy tor uorry. t— there's not a lot of sympathy for harry. i was— there's not a lot of sympathy

for harry. i was trying then i trytnt— for harry. i was trying then i trytnt to— for harry. i was trying then i was trying to explain to you ot— was trying to explain to you ot tts— was trying to explain to you some of the things that you most— some of the things that you mtttt ts— some of the things that you might be feeling. i don't really mtnt— might be feeling. i don't really tttnt tts— might be feeling. i don't really think it's washing with any of you— think it's washing with any of you ot— think it's washing with any of you ot ott. — think it's washing with any of you at all. get— think it's washing with any of you at all. get in— think it's washing with any of you at all. get in touch, tssouss— you at all. get in touch, because i'm— you at all. get in touch, because i'm fascinated to hear vvtot— because i'm fascinated to hear snot-to— because i'm fascinated to hear vvtot-tolst- because i'm fascinated to heari what-to.of course, what you make to it. of course, tve-tt— what you make to it. of course, vs-ttltotnt— what you make to it. of course, we'll-doing the— what you make to it. of course, we'll doing the whole same we'll be doing the whole same mtnt— we'll be doing the whole same thing-tomorrow- we'll be doing the whole same thing tomorrow court . thing again tomorrow in court. let thing again tomorrow in court. tst-ars— thing again tomorrow in court. tst-ars you- thing again tomorrow in court. let are you interested let me know. are you interested in let me know. are you interested tn ott— let me know. are you interested tn ott or— let me know. are you interested tn ott or note— let me know. are you interested in all or not? after— let me know. are you interested in all or not? after the break. 28 in all or not? after the break. so tstovv— in all or not? after the break. 28 below pounds— in all or not? after the break. 28 below pounds with a b? yes. ttot— 28 below pounds with a b? yes. ttot ts— 28 below pounds with a b? yes. ttot ts tts— 28 below pounds with a b? yes. that is the price— 28 below pounds with a b? yes. that is the price that we might be that is the price that we might ts poytnt. — that is the price that we might ts poytnt. tt— that is the price that we might be paying. if keir— that is the price that we might be paying. if keir starmer gets in be paying. if keir starmer gets tn pover— be paying. if keir starmer gets tn povsr ont— be paying. if keir starmer gets in power and goes on to borrow for in power and goes on to borrow tor o— in power and goes on to borrow tor o nuts— in power and goes on to borrow for a huge amount— in power and goes on to borrow for a huge amount of money. why? to for a huge amount of money. why? to tnvsst— for a huge amount of money. why? to tnvsst tn— for a huge amount of money. why? to invest in green— for a huge amount of money. why? to invest in green energy. good ttso— to invest in green energy. good ttso. 0r— to invest in green energy. good ttso. or not— to invest in green energy. good idea. or not? see— to invest in green energy. good idea. or not? see you into .

coming up. 37�*” “titi coming up. prince harry's mission to gag the press and silence freedom of speech about the rich and famous reaches the high court . the rich and famous reaches the high court. but will becoming the first royal to take the stand in 130 years back? fire

and can we even trust him to tell the truth under oath? i'll bnng tell the truth under oath? i'll bring you exclusive reporting and insight from angela levin , and insight from angela levin, lady colin campbell and kelvin mackenzie. as the country braces for the duke's explosive testimony , harry's evidence, the testimony, harry's evidence, the courtroom bombshells airs on dan wootton tonight, 9 pm. till 11 p-m, wootton tonight, 9 pm. till 11 pm, only on . gb p.m, only on. gb news. hello there. i'm michelle— cit \ hello there. i'm michelle dewberry . there. i'm michelle dewberry. atontstts— there. i'm michelle dewberry. alongside me,— there. i'm michelle dewberry. alongside me, atul hatwell and ten— alongside me, atul hatwell and ten notto— alongside me, atul hatwell and ben habib. right— alongside me, atul hatwell and ben habib. right through till troo— ben habib. right through till 7:00 totoy. — ben habib. right through till 7:00 today. we've just been novtnt— 7:00 today. we've just been novtnt o— 7:00 today. we've just been novtnt o very— 7:00 today. we've just been having a very strange conversation- having a very strange conversation in the break. it's a conversation in the break. it's o toot— conversation in the break. it's o toot tot.— conversation in the break. it's otoot tot. sov— conversation in the break. it's a good job. .gov read easily. mot-s— a good job. .gov read easily. ttot-s nnot— a good job. .gov read easily. that's what i— a good job. .gov read easily. that's what i can- a good job. .gov read easily. that's what i can say. you guys not— that's what i can say. you guys not tovtnt— that's what i can say. you guys not having much— that's what i can say. you guys not having much sympathy for uorry— not having much sympathy for tony—ostto- not having much sympathy for harry _ della says i harry whatsoever? della says tss-s— harry whatsoever? della says ns-s tons— harry whatsoever? della says ns-s tons us— harry whatsoever? della says he's done us all— harry whatsoever? della says he's done us all a favour by ttttttttttnt— he's done us all a favour by highlighting his— he's done us all a favour by highlighting his paranoia and untsrmtntnt— highlighting his paranoia and undermining his own fantasy vvortt— undermining his own fantasy vortt. t— undermining his own fantasy vortt. t os— undermining his own fantasy world. i was trying really hard to snow— world. i was trying really hard to show you— world. i was trying really hard to show you kind— world. i was trying really hard to show you kind of what it is ttte— to show you kind of what it is ttts uten— to show you kind of what it is like when you're— to show you kind of what it is like when you're on the flip

stts— like when you're on the flip stts ot— like when you're on the flip side of that— like when you're on the flip side of that press intrusion . i side of that press intrusion. i otvtousty— side of that press intrusion. i obviously didn't— side of that press intrusion. i obviously didn't do a great job, mouth.— obviously didn't do a great job, though, because— obviously didn't do a great job, though, because no one really to— though, because no one really to te— though, because no one really seems to be coming through with any seems to be coming through with my sympotty— seems to be coming through with any sympathy, brian says. vtttttom — any sympathy, brian says. william has— any sympathy, brian says. william has been through all of the william has been through all of me some— william has been through all of the same. everything atle was msnttontnt— the same. everything atle was mentioning-mum. the same. everything atle was mentioning mum very mentioning about the mum very sotty— mentioning about the mum very sotty posstnt— mentioning about the mum very sadly passing away. william's sepsrtsnsst— sadly passing away. william's experienced hasn't experienced it, but he hasn't gone— experienced it, but he hasn't gone town— experienced it, but he hasn't gone down the— experienced it, but he hasn't gone down the road that harry tos— gone down the road that harry tos tons.— gone down the road that harry has gone. you're— gone down the road that harry has gone. you're quite right, ostuotty.— has gone. you're quite right, actually. that— has gone. you're quite right, actually. that is— has gone. you're quite right, actually. that is also a very toot— actually. that is also a very toot potnt. — actually. that is also a very good point. and— actually. that is also a very good point. and as much as i do tstsnt— good point. and as much as i do tstsnt uorry— good point. and as much as i do defend harry very— good point. and as much as i do defend harry very long story snort.— defend harry very long story short t— defend harry very long story short t uset— defend harry very long story short, i used to— defend harry very long story short, i used to go out with trtnss— short, i used to go out with prince william's— short, i used to go out with prince william's best friend, so i prince william's best friend, so t tt— prince william's best friend, so t ttt. ant— prince william's best friend, so t ttt. ant t— prince william's best friend, so i did. and i actually spent one of i did. and i actually spent one ot trtnss— i did. and i actually spent one of prince william's birthdays at uttntrovs— of prince william's birthdays at uttttrovs vttt— of prince william's birthdays at highgrove with harry and chelsea and highgrove with harry and chelsea ont—tots— highgrove with harry and chelsea ont—tots ont- highgrove with harry and chelsea and—kate and me. highgrove with harry and chelsea and kate and me and and william and kate and me and my men— and william and kate and me and my then-there.— and william and kate and me and my then-there. and- and william and kate and me and my then there. and i've my then partner there. and i've gotlsayv_ my then partner there. and i've totlsoy. t— my then partner there. and i've totlsoy. t tttn-t— my then partner there. and i've got say, i didn't massively got to say, i didn't massively come away positive vibe come away with a positive vibe of come away with a positive vibe ot-so— come away with a positive vibe ot-so moyts— come away with a positive vibe ot-so moyts tm- of harry, so maybe i'm unnecessarily- of harry, so maybe i'm unnecessarily defending him. i ton-t— unnecessarily defending him. i ton-t know.— unnecessarily defending him. i don't know. anyway richard says, i don't know. anyway richard says, t tttn-t— don't know. anyway richard says, t tttn-t sss— don't know. anyway richard says, t tttn-t ony— don't know. anyway richard says, i didn't see any of— don't know. anyway richard says, i didn't see any of it. michelle i didn't see any of it. michelle t — i didn't see any of it. michelle i was watching— i didn't see any of it. michelle i was watching the grass grow. it i was watching the grass grow. tt os— i was watching the grass grow. tt mors— i was watching the grass grow. it was more interesting. move att— it was more interesting. move att nott— it was more interesting. move att rtttt. t— it was more interesting. move on. all right. i will, because tnsrs-s— on. all right. i will, because there's other— on. all right. i will, because there's other stuff to get onto, not— there's other stuff to get onto, not tsost— there's other stuff to get onto, not least the— there's other stuff to get onto, not least the fact— there's other stuff to get onto, not least the fact that keir stormsr— not least the fact that keir starmer insists— not least the fact that keir starmer insists borrowing starmer insists that borrowing aze— starmer insists that borrowing ase ttttton— starmer insists that borrowing £28 billion invest in green £28 billion to invest in green tntustrtss— £28 billion to invest in green industries is— £28 billion to invest in green industries is the— £28 billion to invest in green industries is the best way to

grow— industries is the best way to grow tts— industries is the best way to grow the economy. many union tsotsrs— grow the economy. many union tsotsrs nove— grow the economy. many union leaders have slammed him tostsotty— leaders have slammed him basically for— leaders have slammed him basically for saying that he voutt— basically for saying that he voutt ton— basically for saying that he would ban oil— basically for saying that he would ban oil extraction tssnsss— would ban oil extraction licences. you— would ban oil extraction licences. you remember that one? oh licences. you remember that one? on tsor. — licences. you remember that one? on tsor. tost— licences. you remember that one? oh dear. lost one— licences. you remember that one? oh dear. lost one pick on this ttt— oh dear. lost one pick on this ttt ston— oh dear. lost one pick on this one. i'll start with— oh dear. lost one pick on this one. i'll start with you again, ten.— one. i'll start with you again, tsn. vou— one. i'll start with you again, ben. you know,— one. i'll start with you again, ben. you know, keir starmer 28 ttttton— ben. you know, keir starmer 28 billion. where— ben. you know, keir starmer 28 billion. where are— ben. you know, keir starmer 28 billion. where are you on this? so billion. where are you on this? so tts— billion. where are you on this? so tt-s very— billion. where are you on this? so it's very interesting- billion. where are you on this? so it's very interesting .- billion. where are you on this? so it's very interesting. he's taking his lead, as far as i can see from the inflation reduction act that joe biden's brought in, which is about $370 billion, almost exactly the same proportionate figure for the us economy as the figure that he's launching for the for the uk . launching for the for the uk. i'm against it when they say they're investing 28 billion in green technologies, they're not doing that. what they're doing is spending £28 billion on households , you know, insulating households, you know, insulating themselves. that's the aim of this of this exercise £28 billion equates to and let's put this into, you know, pound shillings and pence that matter to us five, 5% reduction in the bafic to us five, 5% reduction in the basic rate of tax. so you'd be able to bring down the basic rate of tax for the working

class from 20% down to 15. and thatis class from 20% down to 15. and that is a big reduction in tax , that is a big reduction in tax, allowing people then to decide as a democracy should work. what they would do with their money, whether they want to buy more food, whether they want to buy another or whether they another sofa or whether they wish homes. wish to insulate their homes. this is yet again and we started this this programme on this particular debate. this is yet again evidence of the nanny state, the wet nurse telling us how money should be spent . this how money should be spent. this is our money. they'll tax us and they'll spend it. and i've got news for keir starmer, by the way, the eu may block him. he's a great eu aficionado , but the a great eu aficionado, but the eu is up in arms about the inflation reduction act brought in by joe biden, and i think he's going to find his wings cupped he's going to find his wings clipped by his desire to be ever closer to the eu. this is all about the hot pursuit, isn't it, of net zero. do you support keir stormsr— of net zero. do you support keir stormsr tn— of net zero. do you support keir starmer inllot_ of net zero. do you support keir starmer inllot of— of net zero. do you support keir starmer inllot of this- do you support keir starmer in lot of this stuff? starmer in a lot of this stuff? veon— starmer in a lot of this stuff? son—t- starmer in a lot of this stuff? ssots—t one- starmer in a lot of this stuff?- yeah,_| one caveat yeah, completely. i one caveat i'd yeah, completely. i one caveat tt te— yeah, completely. i one caveat i'd be very surprised if the number 28 billion makes it through into the manifesto and

to the election when that number comes from last year at a point when borrowing was a lot lower pre liz truss crash pre interest rates pre mortgage rates but the direction of travel is right and it's not a kind of the 28 billion is for things like helping home helping . households helping home helping. households 60,000,000,06o billion that helping home helping. households 60,000,000,060 billion that says 60,000,000,060 billion that says 60 billion would insulate 19 million uk households. it's to help do that it's to help- ii tit“ : it's to help do that it's to help move psopts— help do that it's to help move psopts to— help do that it's to help move psopts to more— help do that it's to help move people to more sustainable forms of people to more sustainable forms ot tsottnt— people to more sustainable forms ot tsottnt tut— people to more sustainable forms of heating but it's— people to more sustainable forms of heating but it's not an investment— of heating but it's not an investment is— of heating but it's not an investment is it. e investment is it. it's for a vett— investment is it. it's for a vett t— investment is it. it's for a well i mean it's investment spending investment drives a return and if you're the government and you and you invest in rolling out insulation across the country , rolling out, across the country, rolling out, investing in electric car gigafact arteries, there's a return because people are employed, taxes come back . in employed, taxes come back. in the end, it pays for itself. but i do think that 28 billion figure won't make it through because interest rates are

different and government borrowing at a at a borrowing is will be at a at a different point. i don't think the eu is going to be an issue. the eu has own version of the eu has its own version of the inflation reduction act going arms with going through is up in arms with the us. but what business is saying labour labour's at saying to labour and labour's at the engaged in a pretty the moment engaged in a pretty in—depth with in—depth discussion with business about this. what business about this. what business labour is business is saying to labour is that we being this country that we are being this country are left behind. us are being left behind. the us has inflation reduction has got the inflation reduction act, the eu has got the green deal act, the eu has got the green deal. we are being squeezed here andifs deal. we are being squeezed here and it's not a case of just sort of the government spending money and winners. private and picking winners. the private sector way sector is heading this way currently. year we're currently. this year we're projecting it's projected that $1 trillion are going to go into green bonds from 2025, $5 trillion. now what that means is that's private sector investment in sectors going that way in green sectors going that way because they're being brought into it by government grants, government policy, government regulations government regulations and government diktat actually what they should be doing is issuing new licences to get more oil and more gas out of the north sea using our natural resources to support

british taxpayers and reducing the cost of living. if it's economic and if it helps our energy security, i think you'll find new ultimately , new find new ultimately, new licences would be issued. if it's going to cost more and there's a renewable alternative, i actually that's that's i think actually that's that's that's the that's the right path because whole world is going because the whole world is going it's just it's not it's not just here. it's not europe. whole isn't europe. the whole world isn't the know what i the whole world. know what i would to see? i mean, would like to see? i mean, i think would like to see? i mean, i tttnt tts— would like to see? i mean, i tttnt tt-s o— would like to see? i mean, i think it's a lot— would like to see? i mean, i think it's a lot simpler- : l 7 i mean, i think it's a lot simpler than nnot— think it's a lot simpler than vnot svsn— think it's a lot simpler than what even you— think it's a lot simpler than what even you just said. ben, i voutt— what even you just said. ben, i voutt ttte— what even you just said. ben, i voutt ttts to— what even you just said. ben, i would like to see— what even you just said. ben, i would like to see a referendum, a would like to see a referendum, o proper— would like to see a referendum, a proper referendum on net zero, tssouss tss— a proper referendum on net zero, tssouss tss t— a proper referendum on net zero, because. yes i know— a proper referendum on net zero, because. yes i know you'll tell ms-tt— because. yes i know you'll tell ms-tt os— because. yes i know you'll tell ms-tt tn- because. yes i know you'll tell me,-it was in their- me, michel. it was in their monttsstos— me, michel. it was in their manifestos_|| me, michel. it was in their- manifestos_| mean, manifestos at 2019. but i mean, reotty.— manifestos at 2019. but i mean, rsotty. vs— manifestos at 2019. but i mean, rsotty. vs no— manifestos at 2019. but i mean, really, we no one— manifestos at 2019. but i mean, really, we no one really paid ottsntton— really, we no one really paid attention—bit. really, we no one really paid attention—bit ofj attention to that little bit of smut— attention to that little bit of small-there. - attention to that little bit of small there. somewhere small print there. somewhere tovorts— small print there. somewhere tovorts-ttt- small print there. somewhere towards-did they- small print there. somewhere towards did they now towards the end. did they now ttot— towards the end. did they now trot-ott— towards the end. did they now ttotiott sss— towards the end. did they now that-all see .effect- towards the end. did they now that all see effect that that we all see the effect that net— that we all see the effect that net-tos— that we all see the effect that net-tos ont— that we all see the effect that net has and really will net zero has and really will nove— net zero has and really will tovs on— net zero has and really will have on our lives going forward, vtsttsr— have on our lives going forward, vtsttsr-tts— have on our lives going forward, whether-the-that- whether it's the cars that you tnvs— whether it's the cars that you trtvs—soms- whether it's the cars that you. drive,_some people drive, the food that some people nont— drive, the food that some people wont-to — drive, the food that some people wont-to try— drive, the food that some people wont-to try ont— drive, the food that some people want to try and eat, the want you to try and eat, the tsottnt— want you to try and eat, the tsottnt ttot— want you to try and eat, the heating that you— want you to try and eat, the heating that you use, whether or not you— heating that you use, whether or not you son— heating that you use, whether or not you son-o— heating that you use, whether or not you can-a wood- heating that you use, whether or not you can a wood burner not you can have a wood burner or-oms— not you can have a wood burner ornomsnsvsr-l- not you can have a wood burner or name never mind or you name it, never mind ttntsrtnt— or you name it, never mind tinkering around— or you name it, never mind tinkering around edges, tinkering around the edges, i voutt— tinkering around the edges, i voutt-us— tinkering around the edges, i voutt-us to— tinkering around the edges, i would-us to go- tinkering around the edges, i would us to go to would like us to go back to tostss— would like us to go back to basics, start— would like us to go back to basics, start at— would like us to go back to basics, start at ground zero and ost—you- basics, start at ground zero and ask—you believe. basics, start at ground zero and| ask—you believe in ask everyone, do you believe in net-ttot—

ask everyone, do you believe in net-trot tts— ask everyone, do you believe in net-that the path- ask everyone, do you believe in net that the path that net zero? is that the path that we net zero? is that the path that us stoutt— net zero? is that the path that we should be— net zero? is that the path that we should be hurtling towards tsot— we should be hurtling towardsi head—question head first? that's the question ttot— head first? that's the question mot-ttte— head first? that's the question ttot-ttts-putl head first? that's the question that-like-put to that i would like to see put to us. that i would like to see put to tts— that i would like to see put to tts trsot— that i would like to see put to us. the great british public. ttot— us. the great british public. ttotlott— us. the great british public. that-all we've- us. the great british public. that all we've time for. that is all we've got time for. i that is all we've got time for. t snt-oyst— that is all we've got time for. t sntoyst ttot— that is all we've got time for. i enjoyed that debate. didn't nove— i enjoyed that debate. didn't trove—my- i enjoyed that debate. didn't have-my boxing. have to get out my boxing stoves.— have to get out my boxing gloves, didn't— have to get out my boxing gloves, didn't have to tell any of gloves, didn't have to tell any ot ttsm— gloves, didn't have to tell any ot them to— gloves, didn't have to tell any of them to pack— gloves, didn't have to tell any of them to pack it— gloves, didn't have to tell any of them to pack it in and be outst— of them to pack it in and be outst. so— of them to pack it in and be quiet. so that— of them to pack it in and be quiet. so that is— of them to pack it in and be quiet. so that is success in my mtnt— quiet. so that is success in my mtnt. tutto— quiet. so that is success in my mind. julia has— quiet. so that is success in my mind. julia has got in touch soytnt— mind. julia has got in touch soytno-ptsoss- mind. julia has got in touch. saying,-please.not saying, michel, please do not snt—ty— saying, michel, please do not snt—ty soytnt- saying, michel, please do not end by saying hello saying, michel, please do not- end-by saying hello to end your show by saying hello to my—totnor- end your show by saying hello toi my—totnor tests. my friend simon in bognor regis. apporsntty— my friend simon in bognor regis. apparently biggest fan. apparently he is my biggest fan. i apparently he is my biggest fan. t-ustto— apparently he is my biggest fan. t-ustto to— apparently he is my biggest fan. t-ustto to you. - i like that. hello to you. ttonts— i like that. hello to you. thanks for— i like that. hello to you. thanks for watching. have a good mtnt— thanks for watching. have a good ntttt. ant— thanks for watching. have a good night. and tomorrow . night. and i'm back tomorrow. uetto— night. and i'm back tomorrow. uetto-tt-s— night. and i'm back tomorrow. hello-it's aidan- night. and i'm back tomorrow. | hello-it's aidan mcgivern hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here with the gb news forecast from the met office. cloudy for many during the next 24 hours, it will be clearest in the west. and later through the day on wednesday, the cloud will break up widely. but for the time up more widely. but for the time being, it's same old weather being, it's the same old weather pattern had for weeks pattern we've had for some weeks now. pressure to the north now. high pressure to the north of uk. this and cloudy of the uk. this cool and cloudy easterly airflow bringing suppressed temperatures in from the north sea and through monday night, as well as through much of tuesday, we've seen this persistent low cloud spread across much central and

across much of central and eastern creeps a bit eastern uk and that creeps a bit further during the further westwards during the early but we early hours of wednesday. but we keep the clear skies for northern ireland and western scotland, north west england, west wales and here few mist west wales and here a few mist patches with temperatures patches likely with temperatures into single figures of into the single figures a bit of a chill the air first thing, a chill in the air first thing, but it's actually sun will but it's actually the sun will soon things elsewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa things elsewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa grey things elsewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa grey start.]s elsewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa grey start.]s lotelsewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa grey start.]s lot of ewhere but it's actually the sun will sooa grey start.]s lot of clouds for a grey start. a lot of cloud again affecting east wales, the midlands eastern parts of england, central and northern scotland . but a better chance scotland. but a better chance i think through wednesday of that cloud return heating back to the immediate north sea coast where it the cool side, 11 to it stays on the cool side, 11 to 14 celsius on the coast, warm sunshine replaces the cloud elsewhere with low 20s likely in some of the warmer spots. south wales, central southern england , example. then into , for example. then into wednesday evening, the cloud again makes progress westwards as temperatures fall away. a bit of a brisk breeze actually blowing through the channel and affecting southwest england in particular. during wednesday and into thursday. but overall it stays clear in the west and the south. whilst a lot of cloud

affects other parts of the uk on thursday morning, but a repeat performance on thursday as that cloud breaks up and burns back to the east coast where indeed it remains grey and on the chilly side, through thursday, however, east anglia and the south east a better chance of the sunshine breaking through. and here a notable temperature difference later this week and into the weekend humidity into the weekend, humidity levels in places mid to levels rise and in places mid to high 20s are expected

good evening . well, prince e: i“ “q well, prince harry good evening. well, prince harry in good evening. well, prince harry tn tts— good evening. well, prince harry tn tns mtn— good evening. well, prince harry in the high court,— good evening. well, prince harry in the high court, of— e: i“ “q well, prince harry in the high court, of course, is tts— in the high court, of course, is the dominant— in the high court, of course, is the dominant story of the day. it the dominant story of the day. tt tston— the dominant story of the day. tt tston vrtts— the dominant story of the day. it began with a— the dominant story of the day. it began with a 55— the dominant story of the day. it began with a 55 page tronssrtpt— it began with a 55 page transcript in— it began with a 55 page transcript in which he said the press— transcript in which he said the press nove— transcript in which he said the press tovs tot— transcript in which he said the press have got blood on their nonts. — press have got blood on their nonts. ant— press have got blood on their hands. and he— press have got blood on their hands. and he described the uk government— hands. and he described the uk government os— hands. and he described the uk government as being at rock tottom— government as being at rock tottom .— government as being at rock tottom . tut— government as being at rock bottom . but i— government as being at rock bottom . but i don't think he was

bottom. but i don't think he was very—