first nigel, thank you and . first nigel, thank you and good— . first nigel, thank you and good evening— . first nigel, thank you and good evening to— . first nigel, thank you and good evening to you. the top story— good evening to you. the top story from — good evening to you. the top story from the newsroom, as you've been hearing, the duke of sussex has left the high court in london after his second day on witness stand giving on the witness stand giving evidence privacy case evidence in his privacy case against mirror group newspapers. prince harry said today he believes journalists used unlawful techniques to get stories about him, including placing a tracking device on the car of his ex—girlfriend. chelsy davy. he also claimed in court that journalists went to extreme lengths to cover up their alleged phone hacking. the publisher denies any wrongdoing . well away from the high court and to the united states, where the prime minister has been visiting arlington national cemetery in virginia today to lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. it's ahead of his fourth meeting with the us president at the white house tomorrow during talks with joe biden. rishi sunak is expected to reaffirm western support for ukraine, as well as addressing the growing threat from china.

climate change and the regulation of ai football . and regulation of ai football. and 16 people have been detained by czech police this afternoon after fans clashed ahead of the europa conference league final in prague. three people were said to have been injured when fiorentina fans attacked west ham supporters in a bar. witnesses claim the italians were armed with chains, belts and buckles. the police officer was also attacked. videos shared on social media appeared to show fans throwing cafe chairs in the street . downing street says street. downing street says humanitarian aid to ukraine will be diverted to the area directly affected by the destruction of the kakhovka dam . tens of the kakhovka dam. tens of thousands of people have had to be evacuated from their homes in and around russian controlled kherson with rising water levels expected to peak later , the head expected to peak later, the head of the un's aid program has warned of grave and far reaching humanitarian consequences for southern ukraine following the

collapse of the dam yesterday. ukraine and russia are accusing each other of being responsible for blowing it up in an act of wartime sabotage . a romanian wartime sabotage. a romanian people trafficker has been jailed for his part in an operation to smuggle dozens of afghan nationals into the uk. inside a coffin sized wooden boxes, adrian constantin was extradited back to the uk to stand trial after fleeing the country . he was sentenced to country. he was sentenced to three years and two months in prison at birmingham crown court today, after pleading guilty to conspiracy to assist unlawful immigration , 35 afghans, immigration, 35 afghans, including children as young as two and a person with physical disabilities , were screwed into disabilities, were screwed into purple built hides and smuggled into the uk in the back of vans . and lastly, pope francis is recovering from a three hour long operation on an abdominal hernia . the vatican said there hernia. the vatican said there were no complications during the surgery and that the pontiff will stay in hospital for

several days to recover. the 86 year old suffered a number of medical setbacks recently, including spending five days in hospital in march, where the lung infection two years ago, he had surgery on his intestine . had surgery on his intestine. you're up to date on tv , online, you're up to date on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news . channel until . channel. l until the . channel- . until the oprah . channel— . until the oprah winfrey - until the oprah winfrey interview. — . until the oprah winfrey interview. i'd— . until the oprah winfrey interview. i'd never- until the oprah winfrey interview. i'd never heard of the— interview. i'd never heard of the concept— interview. i'd never heard of the concept-your- interview. i'd never heard of the concept your truth the concept of your truth because— the concept of your truth because , you— the concept of your truth because , you see, it's all come because, you see, it's all come from— because, you see, it's all come from california,— because, you see, it's all come from california, of— because, you see, it's all come from california, of course, and harry-e— from california, of course, and harry-e been— from california, of course, and harry-e been in— from california, of course, and harry's been in court for the tee— harry's been in court for the last two— harry's been in court for the last two days,— harry's been in court for the last two days, telling his teeth. — last two days, telling his truth. this— last two days, telling his truth. this very concept is based— truth. this very concept is based on— truth. this very concept is based on feelings rather than objective— based on feelings rather than objective facts.— based on feelings rather than objective facts. and when it be— objective facts. and when it came to facts,— objective facts. and when it came to facts, he wasn't really very— came to facts, he wasn't really very good— came to facts, he wasn't really very good because— came to facts, he wasn't really very good because he said, i ebb-b— very good because he said, i beb-b knew— very good because he said, i don't know 18— very good because he said, i don't know 18 times today. he sabb— don't know 18 times today. he eebb, ._ don't know 18 times today. he eebb, . ebb-b— don't know 18 times today. he said, i don't remember nine times— said, i don't remember nine bmee bobby.— said, i don't remember nine times today. you— said, i don't remember nine times today. you would have

bbebgbb— times today. you would have bbebgbb bbe— times today. you would have thought the chap might have beemb— thought the chap might have beemb bie— thought the chap might have learnt his brief,— thought the chap might have learnt his brief, but clearly bob.— learnt his brief, but clearly beb- bbere— learnt his brief, but clearly not. there was— learnt his brief, but clearly not. there was a huge amount of onesanon— not. there was a huge amount of conversation around— not. there was a huge amount of conversation around chelsy davy, aoan anab— conversation around chelsy davy, a woman that he— conversation around chelsy davy, a woman that he was seeing for yeas ne— a woman that he was seeing for seven years. he said the whole thing— seven years. he said the whole bnbna was— seven years. he said the whole thing was doomed— seven years. he said the whole thing was doomed from the start bease— thing was doomed from the start bease of— thing was doomed from the start because of the— thing was doomed from the start because of the tabloid press , because of the tabloid press, ana— because of the tabloid press, and ._ because of the tabloid press, and i thought— because of the tabloid press, and i thought that was a very interesting— and i thought that was a very interesting cycle. _ and i thought that was a very interesting cycle. erg behind all interesting cycle. erg behind abb on— interesting cycle. erg behind abb on anab— interesting cycle. erg behind all of that, |_ interesting cycle. erg behind all of that, i wonder , though, all of that, i wonder, though, do we— all of that, i wonder, though, do we now, after— all of that, i wonder, though, do we now, after this humiliation,- do we now, after this humiliation, do we sympathise as wran— humiliation, do we sympathise as wbn prince— humiliation, do we sympathise as with prince harry?— humiliation, do we sympathise as with prince harry? give me your bboagnbs. — with prince harry? give me your thoughts. farage _ with prince harry? give me your thoughts. farage at gb news .com nave— thoughts. farage at gb news .com nave bo— thoughts. farage at gb news .com nave to say— thoughts. farage at gb news .com nave ao say my— thoughts. farage at gb news .com have to say my views have moved non— have to say my views have moved from an — have to say my views have moved from an anger— have to say my views have moved from an anger ab— have to say my views have moved from um anger at him for bebraybng— from um anger at him for betraying everything . his betraying everything. his grandmother,— betraying everything. his grandmother, his regiment. but i aobaabby— grandmother, his regiment. but i aobaabby no— grandmother, his regiment. but i actually now feel— grandmother, his regiment. but i actually now feel rather sorry for nbn. — actually now feel rather sorry for nbn. .— actually now feel rather sorry for him. i feel— actually now feel rather sorry for him. i feel after these last two— for him. i feel after these last bro bays— for him. i feel after these last bro bays ne— for him. i feel after these last two days he looks— for him. i feel after these last two days he looks a rather bbbab— two days he looks a rather pitiful figure— two days he looks a rather pitiful figure because evidence he pitiful figure because evidence be nas— pitiful figure because evidence he has produced— pitiful figure because evidence he has produced none . and i'm he has produced none. and i'm y-obnea— he has produced none. and i'm y-obnea by— he has produced none. and i'm y-obnea by bon— he has produced none. and i'm joined by tom bower , royal joined by tom bower, royal bbograbner— joined by tom bower, royal biographer and— joined by tom bower, royal biographer and author of revenge.— biographer and author of revenge. meghan harry and the war between— revenge. meghan harry and the war between the— revenge. meghan harry and the war between the windsors and the bebeb— war between the windsors and the bebeb prince— war between the windsors and the rebel prince tom. _ war between the windsors and the rebel prince tom. it's not been

a great— rebel prince tom. it's not been a great too— rebel prince tom. it's not been a great two days— rebel prince tom. it's not been a great two days for prince harry,— a great two days for prince harry, nas— a great two days for prince harry, nas tte— a great two days for prince harry, has it? well, no, but it sorta— harry, has it? well, no, but it soatt neve— harry, has it? well, no, but it could never have— harry, has it? well, no, but it could never have been, because he could never have been, because be reatty— could never have been, because be reatty bas— could never have been, because he really has become the vehicle for he really has become the vehicle tor bagb— he really has become the vehicle tor nagb grant— he really has become the vehicle for hugh grant and— he really has become the vehicle for hugh grant and the hacked off for hugh grant and the hacked on group— for hugh grant and the hacked on group vbo— for hugh grant and the hacked off group who have really oabtarea— off group who have really captured him _ off group who have really captured him and used him to avaae— captured him and used him to advance their— captured him and used him to advance their cause. his advance their cause. and his ntstortane— advance their cause. and his misfortune is— advance their cause. and his misfortune is not— advance their cause. and his misfortune is not only that he is misfortune is not only that he ts not— misfortune is not only that he ts not very— misfortune is not only that he is not very intelligent, but he basn-t— is not very intelligent, but he basn-t baa— is not very intelligent, but he hasn't had independent legal atvtoe— hasn't had independent legal atvtoe. vvbo— hasn't had independent legal advice. who would warned advice. who would have warned btn— advice. who would have warned btn-be-s— advice. who would have warned him - he's getting - advice. who would have warned him he's getting into him that what he's getting into is him that what he's getting into ts not— him that what he's getting into ts not evaotty— him that what he's getting into is not exactly what is on the tin presented— is not exactly what is on the tin presented by— is not exactly what is on the tin presented by hugh grant, but be-s— tin presented by hugh grant, but be-s mate— tin presented by hugh grant, but he's made millions with netflix . bes— he's made millions with netflix . be-s mate— he's made millions with netflix . he's made millions with the boot.— . he's made millions with the boot. .— . he's made millions with the boot. . mean— . he's made millions with the book. i mean, it's— . he's made millions with the book. i mean, it's not as if he basn-t— book. i mean, it's not as if he basn-t got— book. i mean, it's not as if he basn-t got tbe— book. i mean, it's not as if he hasn't got the cash to get independent— hasn't got the cash to get independent legal advice. well, tbat-s— independent legal advice. well, tbat-s evaotty— independent legal advice. well, that's exactly why— independent legal advice. well, that's exactly why they used him:— that's exactly why they used him, because _ that's exactly why they used him, because in— that's exactly why they used him, because in the other him, because in all the other cases-hacking,— him, because in all the other cases hacking, the people cases of hacking, the people stab-t— cases of hacking, the people bent-money.- cases of hacking, the people didn't money. the risk didn't have the money. the risk of didn't have the money. the risk ot tb— didn't have the money. the risk ot at ntttton— didn't have the money. the risk of £1 million fees— didn't have the money. the risk of £1 million fees to the case. tarry— of £1 million fees to the case. barry bas— of £1 million fees to the case. narry bas got— of £1 million fees to the case. harry has got the— of £1 million fees to the case. harry has got the money and he's got tbe— harry has got the money and he's got tbe purpose.— harry has got the money and he's got the purpose. he's motivated . so— got the purpose. he's motivated . so vben— got the purpose. he's motivated . so when sherborne , the lawyer, . so when sherborne, the lawyer, the . so when sherborne, the lawyer, tbe smear— . so when sherborne, the lawyer, the smear merchant lawyer, found bary— the smear merchant lawyer, found barry tn— the smear merchant lawyer, found barry tn tbe— the smear merchant lawyer, found harry in the south— the smear merchant lawyer, found harry in the south of france , he harry in the south of france, he tabbtng— harry in the south of france, he tabbtng at— harry in the south of france, he tabbtng at a— harry in the south of france, he was tapping at a willing accomplice— was tapping at a willing accomplice to- was tapping at a willing accomplice to his plan, which atvays— accomplice to his plan, which atvays to—

accomplice to his plan, which was always to attack the media vttb— was always to attack the media vttb a— was always to attack the media with a famous— was always to attack the media with a famous person. so they got tarry,— with a famous person. so they got narry, bat— with a famous person. so they got harry, put him into court, ana— got harry, put him into court, and nvvo— got harry, put him into court, and be-s— got harry, put him into court, and now he's exposed himself as somebody— and now he's exposed himself as somebody vbo— and now he's exposed himself as somebody who really doesn't, as you say,— somebody who really doesn't, as you say, tnov— somebody who really doesn't, as you say, know his— somebody who really doesn't, as you say, know his own argument. vett— you say, know his own argument. ng, .— you say, know his own argument. ng, . mean— you say, know his own argument. well, i mean, there— you say, know his own argument. well, i mean, there were 33 arttotes— well, i mean, there were 33 articles that— well, i mean, there were 33 articles that the— well, i mean, there were 33 articles that the judge had seteotea— articles that the judge had selected to— articles that the judge had selected to be— articles that the judge had selected to be discussed . he selected to be discussed. he otearty— selected to be discussed. he otearty .— selected to be discussed. he clearly i mean,— selected to be discussed. he clearly i mean, i'm not even bett— clearly i mean, i'm not even bet-out- clearly i mean, i'm not even sure he'd out articles sure he'd read out the articles agatn— sure he'd read out the articles again, thoroughly— sure he'd read out the articles again, thoroughly. he seemed to nave— again, thoroughly. he seemed to have-knowledge- again, thoroughly. he seemed to have knowledge many of have little knowledge of many of tben. — have little knowledge of many of tben. -tbougbt- them. i mean, i thought the vbote— them. i mean, i thought the vbote tbtng— them. i mean, i thought the whole thing was— them. i mean, i thought the whole thing was frankly embarrassing the whole thing was frankly embarrassing-the of embarrassing on the point of betng— embarrassing on the point of being humiliate— embarrassing on the point of being humiliate , getting the being humiliate, getting the cbetsy— being humiliate, getting the cbetsy bavy— being humiliate, getting the chelsy davy point that i just nenttonea— chelsy davy point that i just mentioned in— chelsy davy point that i just mentioned in the introduction, very— mentioned in the introduction, very interesting.— mentioned in the introduction, very interesting. was very interesting. there was a lot very interesting. there was a bot on— very interesting. there was a bot on cbetsy— very interesting. there was a lot on chelsy davy, his feelings tbat— lot on chelsy davy, his feelings tbat bt— lot on chelsy davy, his feelings tbat tt vas— lot on chelsy davy, his feelings that it was doomed from the start— that it was doomed from the start bart- — that it was doomed from the start bart- .— that it was doomed from the start part. i don't know. terbabs— start part. i don't know. eerbabs tn— start part. i don't know. perhaps i'm getting this wrong . perhaps i'm getting this wrong. i perhaps i'm getting this wrong. . atnost— perhaps i'm getting this wrong. i almost thought— perhaps i'm getting this wrong. i almost thought what he was saytng— i almost thought what he was saytng ts— i almost thought what he was saytng ts .— i almost thought what he was saying is i wish— i almost thought what he was saying is i wish i'd married cbetsy— saying is i wish i'd married cbetsy bavy— saying is i wish i'd married chelsy davy. well i think the botnt— chelsy davy. well i think the botnt ts— chelsy davy. well i think the botnt ts .— chelsy davy. well i think the point is , which— chelsy davy. well i think the point is , which i— chelsy davy. well i think the point is , which i wrote about in point is, which i wrote about in my boob— point is, which i wrote about in my boob as— point is, which i wrote about in my book as well,— point is, which i wrote about in my book as well, she was an taeat— my book as well, she was an ideal woman— my book as well, she was an ideal woman for— my book as well, she was an ideal woman for him. she was young— ideal woman for him. she was young, very— ideal woman for him. she was young, very pretty— ideal woman for him. she was young, very pretty english, ttvtng— young, very pretty english, ttvtng tn— young, very pretty english, living in southern africa, but stttt— living in southern africa, but stttt very— living in southern africa, but still very much— living in southern africa, but still very much british. and tbey— still very much british. and tbey bat— still very much british. and tbey bad a— still very much british. and they had a lot— still very much british. and they had a lot of fun together.

but— they had a lot of fun together. but bt— they had a lot of fun together. but tt atvays— they had a lot of fun together. but it always understood that sbe— but it always understood that sbe trea— but it always understood that sbe ttret ot— but it always understood that she tired of him— but it always understood that she tired of him because he's a man— she tired of him because he's a manic depressive.— she tired of him because he's a manic depressive. he was very be— manic depressive. he was very insecure. he was— manic depressive. he was very insecure. he was very moody, and tberetore— insecure. he was very moody, and therefore that's— insecure. he was very moody, and therefore that's why— insecure. he was very moody, and therefore that's why they had therefore that's why they had tbe tbat— therefore that's why they had the trial separations and things like the trial separations and things ttbe tbat. — the trial separations and things ttbe tbat. so— the trial separations and things like that. so he— the trial separations and things like that. so he may look back on t— like that. so he may look back on t ant— like that. so he may look back on it and think— like that. so he may look back on it and think that would have been— on it and think that would have been an— on it and think that would have been an easy— on it and think that would have been an easy option. but i think be-s— been an easy option. but i think be-s babby— been an easy option. but i think be-s babby tn— been an easy option. but i think he's happy in california and nysett. — he's happy in california and nysett. be— he's happy in california and myself. he likes— he's happy in california and myself. he likes paddling in the eastbo— pacific. it would have been at beast— pacific. it would have been at teast sbe— pacific. it would have been at least she would— pacific. it would have been at least she would have fitted in. sbe— least she would have fitted in. sbe-nave— least she would have fitted in. she-have been- least she would have fitted in. she have been very, very she would have been very, very happy— she would have been very, very babby-buobess- she would have been very, very happy-duchess of- happy to be the duchess of sussev. — happy to be the duchess of sussex. .would - happy to be the duchess of sussex. would not have sussex. she would not have auset— sussex. she would not have caused-endless- sussex. she would not have caused endless problems that caused the endless problems that negban—sougbtl caused the endless problems thati meghan—sought to meghan has caused and sought to sort ot— meghan has caused and sought to sort of sabotage— meghan has caused and sought to sort of sabotage royal sort of sabotage the royal tantty— sort of sabotage the royal family what family for her own purpose. what he family for her own purpose. what be-unabte— family for her own purpose. what be-unabte to— family for her own purpose. what he-unable to do— family for her own purpose. what he unable to do was to he was unable to do was to produce— he was unable to do was to produce any— he was unable to do was to produce any real- he was unable to do was to produce any real factual evtene— produce any real factual evidence, any- produce any real factual evidence, any killer blow of any tba— evidence, any killer blow of any btnt at— evidence, any killer blow of any btnt at at. — evidence, any killer blow of any kind at all. it— evidence, any killer blow of any kind at all. it started in the batter— kind at all. it started in the batter bart— kind at all. it started in the latter part of— kind at all. it started in the latter part of today. it will go on tbrougb— latter part of today. it will go on through tomorrow and maybe the on through tomorrow and maybe tbe bay— on through tomorrow and maybe tbe aay atter. — on through tomorrow and maybe the day after. and— on through tomorrow and maybe the day after. and this, of course, is sherborne, who you nenttonet — course, is sherborne, who you mentioned earlier, mr sherborne, course, is sherborne, who you men is ned earlier, mr sherborne, course, is sherborne, who you men is the earlier, mr sherborne, course, is sherborne, who you men is the barrister/ir sherborne, who is the barrister representing harry. does he who is the barrister— representing harry. does he have anytbtng— representing harry. does he have anytbtng ub— representing harry. does he have anytbtng ub bts— representing harry. does he have anything up his sleeve, do you tbtnb— anything up his sleeve, do you tbtnb tbat— anything up his sleeve, do you think, that will— anything up his sleeve, do you think, that will embarrass the trouba— think, that will embarrass the mirror group? no, this is the vby— mirror group? no, this is the reason why the _ mirror group? no, this is the reason why the mirror group is ttgbttng— reason why the mirror group is| ttgbttng—tbey fighting the case because they ton-t— fighting the case because they don't-sherborne - fighting the case because they

don't sherborne got fighting the case because they don ammunition.iorne got fighting the case because they donammunition.that's got fighting the case because they don ammunition. that's why)t fighting the case because they don ammunition. that's why they the ammunition. that's why they batt— the ammunition. that's why they part out— the ammunition. that's why they part out to— the ammunition. that's why they part out to att— the ammunition. that's why they paid out to all the— the ammunition. that's why they paid out to all the other reope— paid out to all the other people. because the other people ton-t— people. because the other people ton-t tbrou— people. because the other people ton-t tbrov tt— people. because the other people don't throw it in.— people. because the other people don't throw it in. but they ton-t— don't throw it in. but they ton-t vant— don't throw it in. but they don't want on _ don't throw it in. but they don't want on harry. no but his vbote— don't want on harry. no but his vbote-bts— don't want on harry. no but his whole-it's all- whole point is it's all inference. _ whole point is it's all inference. how could have inference. how could you have got-information- inference. how could you have got information without got this information without it's got this information without tt-slvbote— got this information without it's whole smear campaign . he it's a whole smear campaign. he may— it's a whole smear campaign. he nay-ttgbt— it's a whole smear campaign. he naylrtgbt. vett— it's a whole smear campaign. he may right. well, the point may be right. well, the point is, may be right. well, the point ts-see— may be right. well, the point ts-see tbe— may be right. well, the point is, see the british judges is, you see the british judges nave— is, you see the british judges bave atvays— is, you see the british judges have always found in favour of the have always found in favour of tbe toyat— have always found in favour of the royal family— have always found in favour of the royal family where, as they did the royal family where, as they ate vttb— the royal family where, as they did with meghan,— the royal family where, as they did with meghan, it was outrageous— did with meghan, it was outrageous that meghan , against outrageous that meghan, against the outrageous that meghan, against tbe natt— outrageous that meghan, against tbe matt was— outrageous that meghan, against the mail was able— outrageous that meghan, against the mail was able to win, attbougb— the mail was able to win, although she— the mail was able to win, although she had signed an naurate— although she had signed an inaccurate statement and it bran-t— inaccurate statement and it attn-t even— inaccurate statement and it didn't even go— inaccurate statement and it didn't even go to trial. they gave— didn't even go to trial. they gave tt— didn't even go to trial. they gave t to— didn't even go to trial. they gave it to meghan without a tbat.— gave it to meghan without a trtat. tbe— gave it to meghan without a trial. the three— gave it to meghan without a trial. the three judges in the abbeat— trial. the three judges in the abbeat court— trial. the three judges in the appeal court now they may. he may.— appeal court now they may. he may. vett— appeal court now they may. he rnay. war, bet-s— appeal court now they may. he may. well, let's just say testbe— may. well, let's just say decide. i'm— may. well, let's just say decide. i'm going to give it agatn— decide. i'm going to give it agatn to— decide. i'm going to give it agatn to tbe— decide. i'm going to give it again to the royal family. i'm not-embarrass- again to the royal family. i'm not embarrass them. but not going to embarrass them. but nove— not going to embarrass them. but bout-because— not going to embarrass them. but how?-because the- not going to embarrass them. but how? because the idea that how? well, because the idea that the how? well, because the idea that tbe-tbe — how? well, because the idea that tbe-tbe trutb- how? well, because the idea that the -the truth both - the facts and the truth both anountea — the facts and the truth both anountea la— the facts and the truth both amounted a judge is equally amounted to a judge is equally btzarre. — amounted to a judge is equally btzarre. vett— amounted to a judge is equally bizarre. well i— amounted to a judge is equally bizarre. well i think we i think we bizarre. well i think we i think ve tenant— bizarre. well i think we i think we demand vr_ bizarre. well i think we i think we demand vr or— bizarre. well i think we i think we demand vr or we're into we're tnto— we demand vr or we're into we're tnto abse— we demand vr or we're into we're tnto attoe tn— we demand vr or we're into we're into alice in wonderland . we into alice in wonderland. we reatty— into alice in wonderland. we reatty — into alice in wonderland. we really are. but,— into alice in wonderland. we really are. but, you know, the tbtng— really are. but, you know, the tbtng about— really are. but, you know, the thing about harry is he is oonvtnoea— thing about harry is he is convinced he's- thing about harry is he is convinced he's right. i mean, he

annot— convinced he's right. i mean, he cannot understand— convinced he's right. i mean, he cannot understand that there is a bubtto— cannot understand that there is a public interest— cannot understand that there is a public interest as the lawyer for a public interest as the lawyer tor tbe— a public interest as the lawyer for the mirror— a public interest as the lawyer for the mirror said to him , if for the mirror said to him, if he for the mirror said to him, if be toesn-t— for the mirror said to him, if he doesn't pass— for the mirror said to him, if he doesn't pass the exam, it stttt— he doesn't pass the exam, it stttt gets— he doesn't pass the exam, it still gets into— he doesn't pass the exam, it still gets into sandhurst . but still gets into sandhurst. but he still gets into sandhurst. but be toesn-t— still gets into sandhurst. but he doesn't think— still gets into sandhurst. but he doesn't think the public sbouta— he doesn't think the public should know— he doesn't think the public should know that because he sbouta— should know that because he should protect— should know that because he should protect his own privacy. ant— should protect his own privacy. and on— should protect his own privacy. and on tbe— should protect his own privacy. and on the other— should protect his own privacy. and on the other hand, earn nttttons— and on the other hand, earn nttttons by— and on the other hand, earn millions by invading other beobte-s— millions by invading other people's privacy . final people's privacy. final contradiction. final thought, ton— contradiction. final thought, torn bower— contradiction. final thought, torn bover .— contradiction. final thought, tom bower. do— contradiction. final thought, tom bower. do you sympathise vttb— tom bower. do you sympathise vttb harry— tom bower. do you sympathise vttb barry at— tom bower. do you sympathise with harry at all?— tom bower. do you sympathise with harry at all? not at all. not— with harry at all? not at all. not at— with harry at all? not at all. not at at. — with harry at all? not at all. not at all. here— with harry at all? not at all. not at all. here is a man of unbelievable— not at all. here is a man of unbelievable privilege , of unbelievable privilege, of unbelievable— unbelievable privilege, of unbelievable good fortune of bavtng— unbelievable good fortune of bavtng been— unbelievable good fortune of having been a— unbelievable good fortune of having been a prince, never had to worry— having been a prince, never had to worry about— having been a prince, never had to worry about money and all the rest— to worry about money and all the rest ot— to worry about money and all the rest ot rt.— to worry about money and all the rest ot tt. ana— to worry about money and all the rest of it. and yet— to worry about money and all the rest of it. and yet his mother abet.— rest of it. and yet his mother area. but,— rest of it. and yet his mother area. but, you— rest of it. and yet his mother died. but, you know, millions of ana— died. but, you know, millions of men and women— died. but, you know, millions of men and women have gone through life men and women have gone through ttte vttb— men and women have gone through life with endless— men and women have gone through life with endless complications ana— life with endless complications and borror— life with endless complications and horror stories.— life with endless complications and horror stories. so, yes, and horror stories. and so, yes, it and horror stories. and so, yes, tt-tougb— and horror stories. and so, yes, tt-tougb tor— and horror stories. and so, yes, it-tough for him. - and horror stories. and so, yes, it tough for him. but he is it was tough for him. but he is ss- — it was tough for him. but he is ss- be— it was tough for him. but he is now 38. he should grown up . and now 38. he should grown up. and i now 38. he should grown up. and t-be— now 38. he should grown up. and t-be ts— now 38. he should grown up. and t-be ts bust— now 38. he should grown up. and t-be ts just an— now 38. he should grown up. and i he is just an utterly i think he is just an utterly sbottt— i think he is just an utterly spoilt-frankly- i think he is just an utterly spoilt-frankly .- i think he is just an utterly spoilt frankly . tom bower, spoilt brat, frankly. tom bower, tbanb— spoilt brat, frankly. tom bower, tbanb you— spoilt brat, frankly. tom bower, tbanb you .— spoilt brat, frankly. tom bower, thank you . well,— spoilt brat, frankly. tom bower, thank you . well, that was hard, thank you. well, that was hard, man. bower absolutely no ntstabtng— man. bower absolutely no mistaking his— man. bower absolutely no mistaking his words that he teets— mistaking his words that he teets no— mistaking his words that he feels no sympathy for harry whatsoever. _

feels no sympathy for harry whatsoever. i— feels no sympathy for harry whatsoever. i just think the vbote — whatsoever. i just think the vbote tbtng— whatsoever. i just think the whole thing is— whatsoever. i just think the whole thing is very , very sad. i whole thing is very, very sad. i tbtnb— whole thing is very, very sad. i tbtnb be-s— whole thing is very, very sad. i think he's really— whole thing is very, very sad. i think he's really humiliated btnsett— think he's really humiliated himself over— think he's really humiliated himself over the course of the tast— himself over the course of the tast soubte— himself over the course of the last couple of— himself over the course of the last couple of days. and forever atten— last couple of days. and forever atter. vou— last couple of days. and forever after. you know,— last couple of days. and forever after. you know, he— last couple of days. and forever after. you know, he said he atvays— after. you know, he said he always hated— after. you know, he said he always hated being called the tbtobo— always hated being called the thicko prince.— always hated being called the thicko prince. and tom referred tbere— thicko prince. and tom referred tbere to— thicko prince. and tom referred there to perhaps— thicko prince. and tom referred there to perhaps he got into santburst— there to perhaps he got into sandhurst on— there to perhaps he got into sandhurst on terms that others vouttbt— sandhurst on terms that others wouldn't. we've— sandhurst on terms that others wouldn't. we've heard he had spent— wouldn't. we've heard he had sbeotat netb— wouldn't. we've heard he had special help at— wouldn't. we've heard he had special help at eton said he reatty— special help at eton said he reatty bated— special help at eton said he really hated being called tbtoto— really hated being called tbtobo. .— really hated being called thicko. i do— really hated being called thicko. i do wonder, michael age,— thicko. i do wonder, michael cole, former— thicko. i do wonder, michael cole, former bbc— thicko. i do wonder, michael cole, former bbc royal correspondent, whether he hasn't berbabs— correspondent, whether he hasn't perhaps confirmed— correspondent, whether he hasn't perhaps confirmed it over the course of the— perhaps confirmed it over the course of the last— perhaps confirmed it over the course of the last two days. it souts— course of the last two days. it sounds harsh,— course of the last two days. it sounds harsh, but— course of the last two days. it sounds harsh, but if we can rework— sounds harsh, but if we can rework an old— sounds harsh, but if we can rework an old wartime phrase , rework an old wartime phrase, bts— rework an old wartime phrase, bts journey— rework an old wartime phrase, was his journey really necessary 7 was his journey really necessary e unat— was his journey really necessary e vubat ts— was his journey really necessary ? what is what— was his journey really necessary ? what is what what- was his journey really necessary ? what is what what has he achieved ? if the purpose was to achieved? if the purpose was to come here and prove that there was criminality at the daily mirror, a respected and well established 100 years old newspaper company , and that it's newspaper company, and that it's journalists and it's editors and maybe even its proprietors were

guilty of criminality , felonies, guilty of criminality, felonies, which would send them to jail for considerable amount of time. then you've got to have evidence for that . there's none. no, for that. there's none. no, there are. 31 story were cited . there are. 31 story were cited. and between 12 and 26 years ago , which harry has maintained were brought about by illicit means , by legal means. his means, by legal means. his privacy was invaded and it was illegal. it was a criminal act. well when you're going into the colosseum, into the arena , yeah, colosseum, into the arena, yeah, you've got to go well armed because you're accusing men and women who probably feel that they're good citizens in a well established trade , which is established trade, which is important to the democracy of this country, who pay their taxes, who are nice to their children an and who live a god fearing life. and you're accusing them of criminal motty it's serious business. no, it

is. it is. and if you're going to say that, you're going to have to be sure of yourself. and at the end of an ordeal and it was an ordeal, a different sort of ordeal than sitting in the front seat of an apache, a attack helicopter. but it was an ordeal for eight hours. his barrister said to him, you know how did you feel about it? meaning i'm going to stop you there, okay? i'm going to stop you— there, okay? i'm going to stop you tbere.— there, okay? i'm going to stop you there. there's— there, okay? i'm going to stop you there. there's a- g�*tzrtz; , i'm going to stop you there. there's a reason. tbere-s— you there. there's a reason. tbere-s a— you there. there's a reason. there's a good— you there. there's a reason. there's a good reason because as ban— there's a good reason because as ban vvootton— there's a good reason because as dan wootton tonight is going to go tnto— dan wootton tonight is going to go tnto tbts— dan wootton tonight is going to go tnto tbts tn— dan wootton tonight is going to go into this in depth and he's got-actor— go into this in depth and he's gotlaotorlbtay- go into this in depth and he's got actor play prince got an actor to play prince harry.— got an actor to play prince harry. so— got an actor to play prince harry. so .— got an actor to play prince harry. so i want- got an actor to play prince harry. so i want you to watch ban— harry. so i want you to watch ban wootton— harry. so i want you to watch dan wootton tonight and the very,— dan wootton tonight and the very, very— dan wootton tonight and the very, very bobb— dan wootton tonight and the very, very point, very, very very, very point, the very, very botnt— very, very point, the very, very botnt tbat— very, very point, the very, very point that-cole- very, very point, the very, very point that cole just point that michael cole just maga— point that michael cole just mag-whar- point that michael cole just made, what you'll see made, this is what you'll see tater— made, this is what you'll see tater-vttb— made, this is what you'll see later-with dan— made, this is what you'll see later with dan wootton . later on with dan wootton. you-ve— later on with dan wootton. vou-ve been— later on with dan wootton. you've been sat— later on with dan wootton. you've been sat in- later on with dan wootton. you've been sat in the- later on with dan wootton. you've been sat in the witness box for over a day and a half. you've had to go through these articles answer questions you've had to go through these aiverys answer questions you've had to go through these aivery publicinswer questions you've had to go through these aivery public courtroom,.tions you've had to go through these aivery public courtroom, knowing a very public courtroom, knowing the media is watching how was that made you feel ? it's a lot.

that made you feel? it's a lot. so he was he was emotionally obobea— so he was he was emotionally obobea ub— so he was he was emotionally obobea ub .— so he was he was emotionally choked up . was— so he was he was emotionally choked up . was he or was it all choked up. was he or was it all pre— choked up. was he or was it all be managea— choked up. was he or was it all pre managed and— choked up. was he or was it all pre managed and staged ? pre managed and staged? interesting. _ pre managed and staged? interesting. " pre managed and staged? interesting. rzr" interesting. come on. i well, come on, the prince's trust. you think he's pulling pulling the you think he's pulling pulling tbe voot— you think he's pulling pulling the wool over— you think he's pulling pulling the wool over my eyes? i mean, be-s— the wool over my eyes? i mean, be-s been— the wool over my eyes? i mean, he's been through— the wool over my eyes? i mean, he's been through he's been tbrougb— he's been through he's been tbrougb etgbt— he's been through he's been through eight hours of interrogation. he then his interrogation. he then gets his own barrister— interrogation. he then gets his own barrister to— interrogation. he then gets his own barrister to come on for the tast— own barrister to come on for the tast ttttte— own barrister to come on for the last little bit— own barrister to come on for the last little bit that— own barrister to come on for the last little bit that questions teet— last little bit that questions test ub— last little bit that questions teea ub ana— last little bit that questions teed up and he— last little bit that questions teed up and he starts blubbing. i teed up and he starts blubbing. . mean— teed up and he starts blubbing. . bts— teed up and he starts blubbing. i mean, it's all— teed up and he starts blubbing. i mean, it's all it's— teed up and he starts blubbing. i mean, it's all it's all the vbote— i mean, it's all it's all the vbote tbtng— i mean, it's all it's all the whole thing is— i mean, it's all it's all the whole thing is a- i mean, it's all it's all the whole thing is a complete sham. vett— whole thing is a complete sham. watt. tot-s— whole thing is a complete sham. watt. bet-s just— whole thing is a complete sham. well, let's just take— whole thing is a complete sham. well, let's just take one- whole thing is a complete sham. well, let's just take one little nugget of this. the thing that i thought was most interesting today, because it did involve him, it it was said or he said that he discovered a tracking device on the car of chelsy davy , his long time girlfriend. and another one on a car of a friend of his who was close to him. and in that testimony , he he named in that testimony, he he named the person who put those bugs on those cars. i'm not going to

name them because although it's privileged and the man may be entirely innocent and i don't want to libel him in that sense, although it wouldn't be liable because it's privileged. but let's keep of it. now, let's keep him out of it. now, if you're going to make that allegation, how can you not then go on and prove that it was the mirror that procured that act ? mirror that procured that act? that's a criminal act. on the face of it, it's a criminal act. so where is the connection between the mirror, that action and a story that appeared in the paper now , supposition on paper now, supposition on suspicion , allegation, suspicion, allegation, accusation , action. none of accusation, action. none of these are proof. and this is a case which will turn on the proof, the evidence that is laid before the judge. it's a civil case. it's decided on the balance of probabilities . was it balance of probabilities. was it more likely or was it less likely that this happened ? but likely that this happened? but and i'm sure mrjustice fancourt

will bend over backwards to make sure he gets an absolutely fair ride, as he should do , but he ride, as he should do, but he can only act. the judge on the evidence that's been adduced . evidence that's been adduced. yeah, that's what i think. and a tbat— yeah, that's what i think. and a ttnat tbougbtr— yeah, that's what i think. and a final thought, michael cole, do you— final thought, michael cole, do you teet— final thought, michael cole, do you teet any— final thought, michael cole, do you feel any sympathy for prince barrye— you feel any sympathy for prince barrye .— you feel any sympathy for prince barrye . ao— you feel any sympathy for prince narrye . to . — you feel any sympathy for prince narrye t to . .— you feel any sympathy for prince harry? i do. i do.— you feel any sympathy for prince harry? i do. i do. i— you feel any sympathy for prince harry? i do . crib harry? i do. i do. i tell you why? because about 200 yards in that direction is the lindo wing of saint mary's church. saint mary's hospital hospital. and he came out of that as a newborn baby. his mother looking very beautiful with her hair down and all dressed in red. maybe that was a clue , his red hair and so was a clue, his red hair and so on.and was a clue, his red hair and so on. and he's been under scrutiny his whole life. he didn't enjoy it as a child. he let his emotions show and his mother was taken from him in the most terrible and cruel circumstances when he was 12 years old. he's covering that with him. he's never shed it . he he covering that with him. he's never shed it. he he is prey to that that anger and that anxiety

and that fury. it's all genuine in of course, the hurt is raw andifs in of course, the hurt is raw and it's real. and i know what tom said at 38 years old, he's got to grow up and be mature. but some people are better at coping with with misfortune and tragedy than than others. i wouldn't condemn him for that. but i do think very, very strongly that he should have taken proper and good advice. really do. because if you're going to say this thing, i get the feeling and i and i regret it, that he hasn't been well prepared or he hasn't been well advised. well well, yes. but he is 38. and if tom _ advised. well well, yes. but he is 38. and if tom is— advised. well well, yes. but he is 38. and if tom is right- at: : initial gilt? but he is 38. and if tom is right that bugb— is 38. and if tom is right that nugb grant-s— is 38. and if tom is right that hugh grant's sort— is 38. and if tom is right that hugh grant's sort of talked him tnto— hugh grant's sort of talked him tnto g,— hugh grant's sort of talked him tnto g, .— hugh grant's sort of talked him into it, i don't— hugh grant's sort of talked him into it, i don't know . it's all into it, i don't know. it's all just— into it, i don't know. it's all just very— into it, i don't know. it's all just very sat— into it, i don't know. it's all just very sat .— into it, i don't know. it's all just very sad . michael cole, just very sad. michael cole, tbanb— just very sad. michael cole, tbanb you— just very sad. michael cole, tbant you very— just very sad. michael cole, thank you very much indeed. i vant— thank you very much indeed. i want to— thank you very much indeed. i want to know— thank you very much indeed. i want to know your thoughts, totbs— want to know your thoughts, totbs .— want to know your thoughts, totbs . bo — want to know your thoughts, totbs . bo you— want to know your thoughts, folks . do you have some sympathy folks. do you have some sympathy for folks. do you have some sympathy tor btnse— folks. do you have some sympathy tor trtnoe harry— folks. do you have some sympathy for prince harry farage at cbnnews.com _ for prince harry farage at cbnnews.com in a moment, a big retroa— cbnnews.com in a moment, a big report, a— cbnnews.com in a moment, a big report, a btg— cbnnews.com in a moment, a big report, a btg survey— cbnnews.com in a moment, a big report, a big survey 75 years on

non— report, a big survey 75 years on from windrush,_ report, a big survey 75 years on from windrush, which says the etbnto— from windrush, which says the ethnic minorities— from windrush, which says the ethnic minorities living in brttatn— ethnic minorities living in britain believe this is by far tbe— britain believe this is by far tbe best— britain believe this is by far the best and— britain believe this is by far the best and most tolerant country— the best and most tolerant oountry tn— the best and most tolerant country in the— the best and most tolerant country in the whole of the western — country in the whole of the western world. _ country in the whole of the western world. and why do we keep — western world. and why do we keep beattng— western world. and why do we keep beating ourselves up? all of keep beating ourselves up? all ot tbat— keep beating ourselves up? all ot tbat tn— keep beating ourselves up? all ot tbat tn a— keep beating ourselves up? all of that in a couple of minutes . of that in a couple of minutes. contng— of that in a couple of minutes. contng ub— of that in a couple of minutes. coming up. brace— of that in a couple of minutes. coming up. brace yourself for day— coming up. brace yourself for day two— coming up. brace yourself for day two ot— coming up. brace yourself for day two of harry's high court testtnony— day two of harry's high court testtnony as— day two of harry's high court testimony as we _ day two of harry's high court testimony as we continue our evoustvet— testimony as we continue our exclusive coverage of his assautt— exclusive coverage of his assautt on— exclusive coverage of his assault on the- exclusive coverage of his assault on the british free press — assault on the british free press. expect— assault on the british free press. , tztbz; assault on the british free- press. expect more bombshells like this using zahawi, the first to face may have come from a voicemail. that's how i've atvays— a voicemail. that's how i've atvays see— a voicemail. that's how i've always seen him.— a voicemail. that's how i've always seen him. i've- tact? l that's how i've always seen him. i've never smoked— always seen him. i've never smoked a— always seen him. i've never smoked ay-otnt— always seen him. i've never smoked a joint in that pub or in my tatber-s— smoked a joint in that pub or in my father's house. _ smoked a joint in that pub or in my father's house. so join me. sanantba— my father's house. so join me. samantha markle,_ my father's house. so join me. samantha markle, lady- my father's house. so join me. samantha markle, lady colin campbell and jim davidson for

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listening to gb news radio. i listening to gb news radio. | . astou— listening to gb news radio. i . asked you.— listening to gb news radio. i i asked you, do- listening to gb news radio. i i asked you, do we- listening to gb news radio. i asked you, do we sympathise with prince harry? l says. absolutely yes . the press absolutely yes. the press influenced minds with no regard for respecting privacy. they happily lie and then print a tiny apology. well, i've got to tell you, there is some truth in that. tell you, there is some truth in that . yes, you get a big front that. yes, you get a big front page story that's not right. and then the apology is in the bottom page two, it's bottom of page two, and it's about that big. that is true. but to live but that's what you have to live with as a public figure. and a free press, i'm afraid. and it's always been that, always been like that, ryan says. not slightest. says. not in the slightest. i sympathise with the judge who has suffer harry's woke has to suffer harry's woke droning voice. that's a bit rough, ryan. and one viewer says, i'm actually fed up with heanng says, i'm actually fed up with hearing about harry. there must

be important things to be more important things to report on which are actually relevant to our lives . all relevant to our lives. all right. on that point, i'm going to introduce femi nylander , to introduce femi nylander, political campaigner and activist . welcome activist. welcome to the programme. british future think tank report out today. programme. british future think tank report out today . a survey tank report out today. a survey of ethnic minorities in britain and 80% said they'd rather live in the united kingdom . they in the united kingdom. they thought it was the best place to live of all western countries. and i just thought, isn't that on the face of it, a bit of good news? imean, on the face of it, a bit of good news? i mean, not necessarily tbe— news? i mean, not necessarily ttbe ttrstty— news? i mean, not necessarily ttbe ttrstty .— news? i mean, not necessarily ttbe ttrstty , .— news? i mean, not necessarily like firstly , i mean,- , i mean, not necessarily like firstly , i mean, you like firstly, i mean, you yoursett— like firstly, i mean, you yourself talk- like firstly, i mean, you yourself talk a lot about ntgratton. — yourself talk a lot about migration. you find that ntgrants— migration. you find that migrants that come from ouets— migrants that come from countries that- migrants that come from countries that are in the tngttsb— countries that are in the english speaking world because tngtana— english speaking world because tngtant vas— english speaking world because tngtana a— english speaking world because england was a country that sotontsea— england was a country that colonised them,— england was a country that colonised them, prefer to come to tngtana— colonised them, prefer to come to tngtant tor— colonised them, prefer to come to england for a— colonised them, prefer to come to england for a simple togtsttoat— to england for a simple logistical fact of the fact that if logistical fact of the fact that tt tbey— logistical fact of the fact that tt tbey go — logistical fact of the fact that tt tbey go to — logistical fact of the fact that if they go to spain or if they golereecer — if they go to spain or if they go greece, they're not going go to greece, they're not going to understand _ go to greece, they're not going| to understand _on. to understand what's going on. so to understand what's going on. so brobabty— to understand what's going on. so brobabtyltot— to understand what's going on. so probably lot people so probably a lot of people are tanguage— so probably a lot of people are tanguage ts— so probably a lot of people are language is better for me, not necessary— language is better for me, not. necessarily—course, necessarily language, of course, is necessarily language, of course, ts-but— necessarily language, of course, ts-but but— necessarily language, of course, is-but but-specific. is good. but but the specific question was about attitudes to

different , right. and different races, right. and about feeling comfortable . i've about feeling comfortable. i've spent years of my life working in europe and i definitely think this is the most open minded country of any country in europe. now, i'm not going to detent— europe. now, i'm not going to aetent otber— l. now, i'm not going to defend other european countries, but tn— defend other european countries, but tn abso— defend other european countries, but i'm also not— defend other european countries, but i'm also not going to defend the but i'm also not going to defend tbe-yoursett— but i'm also not going to defend the-yourself are- but i'm also not going to defend the-yourself are a- but i'm also not going to defend the yourself are a big the uk. as yourself are a big ortttotser— the uk. as yourself are a big criticiser of— the uk. as yourself are a big criticiser of the— the uk. as yourself are a big criticiser of the idea that the uk criticiser of the idea that the ub torns— criticiser of the idea that the ub torns a— criticiser of the idea that the uk forms a part— criticiser of the idea that the uk forms a part of europe or torns— uk forms a part of europe or torns a— uk forms a part of europe or torns a bat— uk forms a part of europe or forms a part of— uk forms a part of europe or forms a part of the european unton— forms a part of the european unton or— forms a part of the european unton or at— forms a part of the european union or at least— forms a part of the european union or at least have been btstortoatty. — union or at least have been historically. they are different gay...— historically. they are different , they're different things. but the , they're different things. but tbe-a— , they're different things. but tbe-a bart— , they're different things. but tbe-a bart ot- , they're different things. but the a part of europe and the uk is a part of europe and tbe— the uk is a part of europe and tbe-ts— the uk is a part of europe and tbe-ts a— the uk is a part of europe and tbe-ts a bat— the uk is a part of europe and the-is a part of— the uk is a part of europe and the is a part of the european the uk is a part of the european sonttnent. — the uk is a part of the european continent. .we're- the uk is a part of the european continent. .we're not.- the uk is a part of the european continent. ”bi: �*ftt�*tz; ”cl continent. no, we're not. we're an island . well, you're an an island. well, you're an tsuna— an island. well, you're an ragga, but— an island. well, you're an island, but then- : well, you're an island, but then japan, then yaban— island, but then japan, then japan but— island, but then japan, then japan but bart— island, but then japan, then japan isn't part of asia with tbat— japan isn't part of asia with tbat togts— japan isn't part of asia with that logic. well,— japan isn't part of asia with that logic. well, it's not part of that logic. well, it's not part ot-tt-s— that logic. well, it's not part ot-tt-s not- that logic. well, it's not part of-it's not part- that logic. well, it's not part of-it's not part of. of china. it's not part of china. sure. but it china. that's for sure. but it is part of asia. and- china. that's for sure. but it is part of asia. and the- but it is part of asia. and the uk snares— is part of asia. and the uk shares with— is part of asia. and the uk shares with a _ is part of asia. and the uk shares with a lot of other turobean— shares with a lot of other european countries, a very dark btstory— european countries, a very dark btstorylub— european countries, a very dark btstory-ub vas— european countries, a very dark history.-uk was a- european countries, a very dark history. uk was a colonial history. the uk was a colonial country.— history. the uk was a colonial oountry. sbatn— history. the uk was a colonial country. spain was a colonial country— country. spain was a colonial oountry .— country. spain was a colonial country . france— country. spain was a colonial country . france was a colonial country. france was a colonial country— country. france was a colonial oountry .— country. france was a colonial oountry . sernany— country. france was a colonial country . germany was a colonial country. germany was a colonial country— country. germany was a colonial oountry .— country. germany was a colonial oountry , as— country. germany was a colonial oountry , as was— country. germany was a colonial country , as was belgium. the country, as was belgium. the turobe— country, as was belgium. the turobe bas— country, as was belgium. the turobe bas a— country, as was belgium. the europe has a colonial history. sbatn— europe has a colonial history. sbatn, eortugat— europe has a colonial history. spain, portugal ,_ europe has a colonial history. spain, portugal, france all

engaged— spain, portugal, france all engagea tn— spain, portugal, france all engaged in the— spain, portugal, france all engaged in the slave trade, the uk engaged in the slave trade, the ub engaged— engaged in the slave trade, the ub engagea tn— engaged in the slave trade, the uk engaged in the slave trade. all uk engaged in the slave trade. on ot— uk engaged in the slave trade. on ot tbese— uk engaged in the slave trade. all of these dark— uk engaged in the slave trade. all of these dark parts of the turobean— all of these dark parts of the european history— all of these dark parts of the european history which have led to attttutes— european history which have led to attitudes of— european history which have led to attitudes of racism and prey-unse— to attitudes of racism and prejudice xenophobia of prejudice and xenophobia of atrtoan— prejudice and xenophobia of african history— prejudice and xenophobia of african history as well, aren't tbeye — african history as well, aren't tbeye tbere— african history as well, aren't they? there are— african history as well, aren't they? there are dark- african history as well, aren't they? cat/f. they? there are dark parts of africa. there were plenty of african slave traders actually selling the slaves. there were some africans slaves. no, no, no. i mean, i mean, this is no. i mean, so i mean, this is there were also like this is also a bad argument at the end of day. well, hang on. if of the day. well, hang on. if you— of the day. well, hang on. if you vant— of the day. well, hang on. if you want to— of the day. well, hang on. if you want to have— car well, hang on. if you want to have that argument, if you want to have that argument, tt-tt— you want to have that argument, bit you— you want to have that argument, bit you gtve— you want to have that argument, bit you gtve ne— you want to have that argument, if if you give me your son if you if you give me your son on a date— if you if you give me your son on a date ana— if you if you give me your son on a plate and i— if you if you give me your son on a plate and i do something dodgy— on a plate and i do something boggy-tben- on a plate and i do somethingi dodgy-then-can't dodgy with him, then you can't detent— dodgy with him, then you can't defend yourself— dodgy with him, then you can't defend yourself saying, oh, vett— defend yourself saying, oh, wag, .— defend yourself saying, oh, well, i barbary— defend yourself saying, oh, well, i barbary pirates. the barbary— well, i barbary pirates. the barbary-ot- well, i barbary pirates. the barbary-of north- well, i barbary pirates. the barbary of north africa barbary pirates of north africa took nearly a million white slaves coast. how slaves from the west coast. how many how black slaves from the west coast. how. many how - black -were many how many black slaves were all many how many black slaves were att-aoross— many how many black slaves were att-aoross tbe— all trafficked across the atlantic? _ all trafficked across the atlantic? two- all trafficked across the atlantic? 3 all trafficked across the atlantic? g all trafficked across the - atlantic? two wrongs make a right. you? but this report right. are you? but this report is about where are today. is about where we are today. right? but this report is a survey . i mean, do we know survey. i mean, do we know anytbtng— survey. i mean, do we know anything about— ”rt; i mean, do we know anything about this think tank? can anything about this think tank? can you— anything about this think tank? can you tett— anything about this think tank? can you tell me— anything about this think tank? can you tell me anything about tbts— can you tell me anything about tbts-tanbe— can you tell me anything about this-tank? there- this think tank? there are pretty— this think tank? there are pretty neutral— this think tank? there are pretty neutral think tank, brtttsb— pretty neutral think tank, british future. "t; ”c: british future. they're not. they're not left. they're not. what's that background? they're looking attitudes.

what's that background? they're lookingtheir attitudes. what's that background? they're lookingtheir background? es. what's that background? they're lookingtheir background? what what's their background? what gtves— what's their background? what gives-credibility?- what's their background? what gives credibility? gives them any credibility? watt. — gives them any credibility? watt. bts— gives them any credibility? not. us a— gives them any credibility? well, it's a poll— gives them any credibility? well, it's a poll conducted by focaldata, are a member of focaldata, who are a member of the british polling council. all right. so that's the point. to get the point to hoist on board is has been done by a is this has been done by a legitimate polling company. now what is that what the poll also says is that many members ethnic many members of the ethnic communities believe is communities believe there is some discrimination some form of discrimination happenin some form of discrimination happen in country today. some form of discrimination happen in country today . and happen in the country today. and so, you know, i'm being balanced with that's what they say. with this. that's what they say. all i'm saying to you , femi, is all i'm saying to you, femi, is i just get this narrative to too often that somehow i think our schools are teaching it, that somehow this country is uniquely evil and actually it's not uniquely evil. europe europe has a btstory— uniquely evil. europe europe has abtstory. toot— uniquely evil. europe europe has a history. look at— a. " t:.t::ir l europe europe has a history. look at germany, alternative— a history. look at germany, alternative for— a history. look at germany, alternative for deutschland beoontng— alternative for deutschland becoming the _ alternative for deutschland becoming the second biggest part party— becoming the second biggest part barty tn— becoming the second biggest part barty tn tbe— becoming the second biggest part party in the country. look at toot— party in the country. look at boot at— party in the country. look at look at france— party in the country. look at look at france and marine le ten.— look at france and marine le ten. turobe— look at france and marine le een. turobe as— look at france and marine le pen. europe as a— look at france and marine le pen. europe as a as a continent bas— pen. europe as a as a continent baslvery— pen. europe as a as a continent baslvery tarb— pen. europe as a as a continent has very dark relationship to has a very dark relationship to otber— has a very dark relationship to otber parts— has a very dark relationship to otber barts ot— has a very dark relationship to other parts of the— has a very dark relationship to other parts of the world because turobe — other parts of the world because turobe betng— other parts of the world because europe being one— other parts of the world because europe being one of the wealthier— europe being one of the wealthier parts of the world and you nenttonea— wealthier parts of the world and you mentioned the west as an entry— you mentioned the west as an enttty tbat— you mentioned the west as an entity that includes the united

states— entity that includes the united states, _australia i states, that includes australia r_we - states, that includes australia —ve tatbl states, that includes australia . —ve tatb about , new zealand. but we talk about ntgratton— , new zealand. but we talk about ntgratton bere— , new zealand. but we talk about migration here. talk about migration here. we talk about senatng— migration here. we talk about senatng-att— migration here. we talk about sending-all of- migration here. we talk about sending all of people, sending back all of the people, rtgbte— sending back all of the people, rtgbte-tbe— sending back all of the people, right? the indigenous people right? are the indigenous people we right? are the indigenous people ve-about.— right? are the indigenous people ve-about. tbe— right? are the indigenous people we about. the indigenous we talk about. the indigenous buts— we talk about. the indigenous brits-indigenous- brits are the indigenous people of brits are the indigenous people ot—vvby- brits are the indigenous people ot—vvby are- brits are the indigenous people ot—vvby tbel of new zealand. why are the tnatgenous— of new zealand. why are the indigenous people of america vbtte— indigenous people of america vbtte bo— indigenous people of america white no, because they travel aouna— white no, because they travel aout tbe— white no, because they travel around the - and - white no, because they travel around the and they set up around the world and they set up otber— around the world and they set up otber btaoes— around the world and they set up other places and— around the world and they set up other places and people move and at tbe— other places and people move and at tbe ent— other places and people move and at tbe ent ot— other places and people move and at the end of the— other places and people move and at the end of the day, if we bave— at the end of the day, if we bave tt— at the end of the day, if we bave tt ve— at the end of the day, if we have if we have— at the end of the day, if we have if we have this concept of tbe— have if we have this concept of tbe vvest— have if we have this concept of tbe vvest ot— have if we have this concept of the west of course— have if we have this concept of the west of course there are going— the west of course there are gotng to— the west of course there are gotng to be— the west of course there are going to be people in britain vbo— going to be people in britain vbo say— going to be people in britain vbo say tbat— going to be people in britain who say that it's— going to be people in britain who say that it's nicer to be in brttatn— who say that it's nicer to be in brttatn tban— who say that it's nicer to be in britain than in— who say that it's nicer to be in britain than in france or in germany,— britain than in france or in germany, but— britain than in france or in germany, but it's not necessarily- germany, but it's not necessarily a good thing to say ve-re-tban— necessarily a good thing to say we're than another we're better than another country— we're better than another country-abso- we're better than another country also has racist country that also has racist attttutes— country that also has racist| attitudes._than attitudes. we're better than otber— other countries. but also, are you— other countries. but also, are you suggesttng— other countries. but also, are you suggesting better than you suggesting we're better than anotber— you suggesting we're better than another country?— you suggesting we're better than another country? are you also you — another country? are you also are you suggesting that the afd, are you suggesting that the afd, are—tbe- are you suggesting that the nattonat— are you suggesting that the national rally— are you suggesting that the national rally france, are national rally in france, are you—tbel national rally in france, are- you _the brothers national rally in france, are- yo italy,_the brothers national rally in france, are- yo italy,-you-the brothers national rally in france, are yo italy, you suggestingthers of italy, are you suggesting tbese— of italy, are you suggesting tbese ae— of italy, are you suggesting these are all— of italy, are you suggesting these are all racist parties? or.— these are all racist parties? onloourse.— these are all racist parties? oh,.course. i— these are all racist parties? oh, course. i mean, these oh, of course. i mean, these rates— oh, of course. i mean, these barttes-tbe- parties generally, the xenophobic- xenophobic parties, they're barttes— xenophobic parties, they're barttes-teny- xenophobic parties, they're parties deny, deny the parties that deny, deny the btstory— parties that deny, deny the btstory ot— parties that deny, deny the history of their— parties that deny, deny the history of their own countries ant— history of their own countries ant teny— history of their own countries ant teny tbe— history of their own countries and deny the relationship that tbetr— and deny the relationship that their countries— and deny the relationship that their countries have to other parts— their countries have to other parts ot— their countries have to other parts ot tbe— their countries have to other parts of the world in terms of colonialism,— parts of the world in terms of colonialism,_l- parts of the world in terms of. colonialism,_| don't

colonialism, in terms of i don't tbtnb— colonialism, in terms of i don't think-german— colonialism, in terms of i don't think german political party think any german political party tentes— think any german political party tentes bts— think any german political party denies its awful— think any german political party denies its awful history. oh, na-rggy- denies its awful history. oh, no,-they don't- denies its awful history. oh, no, they don't deny denies its awful history. oh,- no,-they don't deny the no, they do. they don't deny the holocaust,— no, they do. they don't deny the holocaust, which _ no, they do. they don't deny the holocaust, which happened in europe-— holocaust, which happened in turooe-tben- holocaust, which happened in. europe.-them-have europe. most of them would have notbtng— europe. most of them would have notbtnglto— europe. most of them would have nothing-do with— europe. most of them would have nothing do with talking about nothing to do with talking about tantbta— nothing to do with talking about tantbta-tbe— nothing to do with talking about namibia the herero massacre namibia and the herero massacre in namibia and the herero massacre tn tambo— namibia and the herero massacre in namibia. parts— namibia and the herero massacre in namibia. parts of it there. vtoutt— in namibia. parts of it there. trout-tbe— in namibia. parts of it there. would-likelsee- in namibia. parts of it there. i would-likelsee happen? in namibia. parts of it there. . would-likelsee happen? would you like to see happen? the is one dark part the holocaust is one dark part of the holocaust is one dark part ot-btstory. — the holocaust is one dark parti of-history. -would of german history. what would you— of german history. what would you-seet— of german history. what would you-seer obe- of german history. what would you-see? one dark- of german history. what would you see? one dark part you like to see? one dark part of you like to see? one dark part ot germany.— you like to see? one dark part of germany. what— you like to see? one dark part of germany. what would you like to see— of germany. what would you like to babbene— of germany. what would you like to see happen? what would i like to see happen? what would i like to_across europe- to see happen across europe or in to see happen across europe or tn-ub— to see happen across europe or tn-ub or— to see happen across europe or tn-ub or tn— to see happen across europe or in uk or in general? in the in the uk or in general? in the ute— in the uk or in general? in the ubeltt— in the uk or in general? in the ubeltt tbe— in the uk or in general? in the uk?.i'd like to— in the uk or in general? in the uk?.i'd like to see- in the uk or in general? in the uk? i'd like to see a huge uk? or i'd like to see a huge sbttt— uk? or i'd like to see a huge sbttt tn— uk? or i'd like to see a huge sbttt tn our— uk? or i'd like to see a huge shift in our understanding of our shift in our understanding of bast— shift in our understanding of bast. tor— shift in our understanding of our past. for one, i'd be proud tbat— our past. for one, i'd be proud tbat-stabbet— our past. for one, i'd be proud that stamped slavery. that we stamped out slavery. vou— that we stamped out slavery. tau-be— that we stamped out slavery. tau-be proud— that we stamped out slavery. you-be proud that- that we stamped out slavery. you-be proud that we. you mean be proud that we stamped slavery? and we did. stamped out slavery? and we did. jemmy stamped out slavery? and we did. yenny bante— stamped out slavery? and we did. jemmy savile, stop,— stamped out slavery? and we did. jemmy savile, stop, stop,- zrrzzir: 3.9 and we did. jemmy savile, stop, stop, stop. of jemmy savile, stop, stop, stop. tot—tong- of himself doing doing kidley ttttttng—sayl fiddling. did you get to say tbat— fiddling. did you get to say tbat-never— fiddling. did you get to say that-never did- fiddling. did you get to say that never did it in the that he never did it in the basta— that he never did it in the paste tot— that he never did it in the paste bot to— that he never did it in the past? not do you not acknowledge that past? not do you not acknowledge tbat stavery— past? not do you not acknowledge that slavery,-first_ past? not do you not acknowledge that slavery, first country that slavery, the first country to-stavery- that slavery, the first country to - slavery, was - to get rid of slavery, was battt. — to get rid of slavery, was battt. ant— to get rid of slavery, was haiti. and know to get rid of slavery, was haiti. and-know did haiti. and you know how they did it. haiti. and you know how they did tt. bo— haiti. and you know how they did tt. bo-bnov— haiti. and you know how they did it. do-know how— haiti. and you know how they did it. do know how they did it? it. do you know how they did it? do it. do you know how they did it? bo you— it. do you know how they did it? bo you bnove— it. do you know how they did it? do you know? do— it. do you know how they did it? do you know? do you how do you know? do you know how tbey. — do you know? do you know how tbey. ittea— do you know? do you know how they. .idea.-have- do you know? do you know how they. .idea. .have no - do you know? do you know how they. idea. have no idea they. no idea. you have no idea about— they. no idea. you have no idea about tbat— they. no idea. you have no idea about that history— they. no idea. you have no idea about that history about haiti. ttterary— about that history about haiti. ttterary expert— about that history about haiti. literary expert on— about that history about haiti. literary expert on haiti- literary expert on haiti literally having a revolution literary expert on haiti literchoppingg a revolution literary expert on haiti literchopping g a the )lution literary expert on haiti literchopping g a the slave] and chopping off the slave master's they were master's heads because they were enslaving them and was

enslaving them and there was a violent revolution to rid violent revolution to get rid of slavery haiti. and there was slavery in haiti. and there was a-revotutton— slavery in haiti. and there was a-revolution to- slavery in haiti. and there was a - revolution to get - slavery in haiti. and there was a-revolution to get rid. a violent revolution to get rid of a violent revolution to get rid ot stavery— a violent revolution to get rid ot stavery. vou— a violent revolution to get rid of slavery. you acknowledge vvttttan — of slavery. you acknowledge william wilberforce coming along and william wilberforce coming along ant—erase- william wilberforce coming along ant—eraselnoti william wilberforce coming along andfirst. _grace.not| william wilberforce coming along andfirst. do grace not william wilberforce coming along andfirst. do you grace not william wilberforce coming along andfirst. do you acknowledge not the first. do you acknowledge get-ot— the first. do you acknowledge get of acknowledge get rid of do you acknowledge the get rid of do you acknowledge tbe-tratee — get rid of do you acknowledge the-trade? do- get rid of do you acknowledge the-trade? do you- the slave trade? do you acknowledge the role of the royal navy decades in royal navy over decades in stamping out slave trade? royal navy over decades in stanthis] out slave trade? royal navy over decades in stanthis affected slave trade? royal navy over decades in stanthis affected slave traof.’ and this affected millions of. let tell you a bit about it. let me tell you a bit about it. first of all, they got rid of tbe— first of all, they got rid of tbe stave— first of all, they got rid of the slave trade. - first of all, they got rid of the slave trade. they didn't get rid the slave trade. they didn't get rtt—ttrstty— the slave trade. they didn't get rid _ firstly they - rid of slavery. firstly they tntttatty—youi initially initially. no, you let me— initially initially. no, you let —eyou- initially initially. no, you let. ne—your-stnbte me respond to your very simple to your— me respond to your very simple to your question. _ me respond to your very simple to your question. �*ft�*rz; ”bi: to your question. we're out of time. do you acknowledge do i acknowledge extraordinary acknowledge the extraordinary role? no. the royal navy role? no. that the royal navy played in stamping slavery, played in stamping out slavery, that slavery was that the ending of slavery was largely economic decision in largely an economic decision in terms no, terms of the uk also? no, i think they terms of the uk also? no, i think-they abolished. terms of the uk also? no, ii think-they abolished the think that they abolished the stave— think that they abolished the stave-tbey— think that they abolished the slave -they-evenj slave trade. they didn't even abottsb— slave trade. they didn't even abolish slavery— slave trade. they didn't even abolish slavery . a - slave trade. they didn't even abolish slavery a while. we abolish slavery for a while. we veent— abolish slavery for a while. we weren't allowed— abolish slavery for a while. we weren't allowed sail the weren't allowed to sail on the ates — weren't allowed to sail on the ates rt-s— weren't allowed to sail on the waters. it's not— weren't allowed to sail on the waters. it's not licence. isn't it waters. it's not licence. isn't tt tor— waters. it's not licence. isn't tt tor ne— waters. it's not licence. isn't tt tor me to— waters. it's not licence. isn't it for me to say— waters. it's not licence. isn't it for me to say that i have stobbet— it for me to say that i have stobbet totng— it for me to say that i have stopped doing something and i sboutt— stopped doing something and i sboutt be— stopped doing something and i should be proud— stopped doing something and i should be proud of it. when i tet— should be proud of it. when i bet oe— should be proud of it. when i led one-most- should be proud of it. when i led one most barbarous, led one of the most barbarous, we led one of the most barbarous, ve tben— led one of the most barbarous, ve tben oe— led one of the most barbarous, we then one of— led one of the most barbarous, we then one of the— led one of the most barbarous, we then one of the most barbarous— we then one of the most- barbarous—stopped barbarous and we then stopped otbers— barbarous and we then stopped otbers totng— barbarous and we then stopped others doing one— barbarous and we then stopped others doing one of the most barbarous— others doing one of the most barbarous human barbarous things in human btstory.— barbarous things in human. btstory—stave history. do you like the slave tratee— history. do you like the slave tratee bo— history. do you like the slave tratee bo r— history. do you like the slave

trade? do i like— history. do you like the slave trade? do i like britain? oh, i tove— trade? do i like britain? oh, i tove-ot— trade? do i like britain? oh, i love-of britain,- trade? do i like britain? oh, i love of britain, loads of love loads of britain, loads of parts— love loads of britain, loads of parts ot— love loads of britain, loads of parts of britain.— love loads of britain, loads of parts of britain. do you like tbts— parts of britain. do you like tbts oountrye— parts of britain. do you like this country? loads part of this country? loads of part of brttatn.— this country? loads of part of britain-like. - this country? loads of part of britain.-like. .youi britain. i don't like. do you tbe— britain. i don't like. do you like-country?- britain. i don't like. do you like-country?.l- britain. i don't like. do you like country? i like like this country? do i like tbts— like this country? do i like this country?— like this country? do i like this country? i— like this country? do i like this country? i like parts of brttatn.— this country? i like parts of brttatn. r— this country? i like parts of britain. i like— this country? i like parts of britain. i like britain as a tbrtvtng— britain. i like britain as a thriving, bubbling, multicultural of multicultural centre of oreattvtty— multicultural centre of creativity - of - multicultural centre of creativity of diversity. i creativity and of diversity. i ton-t— creativity and of diversity. i ton-t tbe— creativity and of diversity. i don't like the _ creativity and of diversity. i don't like the parts of britain tbat— don't like the parts of britain tbat ae— don't like the parts of britain that are reactionary , that are reactionary, xenophobic, anti—migrant , anti xenophobic, anti—migrant, anti beobte— xenophobic, anti—migrant, anti beobte ant— xenophobic, anti—migrant, anti people and completely delusional about— people and completely delusional about brtttsb— people and completely delusional about british past.— people and completely delusional about british past. and you ton-t— about british past. and you ton-t tbe— about british past. and you don't like completely delusional about— don't like completely delusional about you— don't like completely delusional about you don't— don't like completely delusional about you don't like our btstory. — about you don't like our btstory. ob.— about you don't like our history. oh, i- about you don't like our history. o" l history. oh, i like parts of british history. i don't like most— british history. i don't like most ot— british history. i don't like most of british— a " built i don't like most of british history. a " bairg i don't like most of british history. tbere-s— most of british history. tbere-s no— most of british history. there's no country- most of british history. there's no country in the world where you'd like all the history. oh, no, no, no. all i would say to you at the conclusion of this is i think it's disappointing. yes, there are problems. yes of course. our history with everybody else is far perfect. it's far from perfect. it's disappointing- far from perfect. it's - disappointing-country disappointing every country in the disappointing every country in tbe—an— disappointing every country in tbe—an enbtre- disappointing every country in the an empire that the world have an empire that sbannet— the world have an empire that sbannet batt— the world have an empire that spanned half of— the world have an empire that spanned half of the globe. and you—emote.- spanned half of the globe. and you—enbtre. - spanned half of the globe. andj you—empire. and spanned half of the globe. and- you_empire. and the you name me an empire. and the btstory— you name me an empire. and the btstory ot— you name me an empire. and the history of humankind that has now commonwealth of now formed a commonwealth of over commonwealth, over 50 commonwealth, commonwealth over 50 commonwealth, commocommonwealth. they're joining commonwealth. they're leaving. jamaica wants- " g they're leaving. jamaica wants leave. leaving. jamaica wants to leave. no

leaving. jamaica wants to leave. uo-n0,— leaving. jamaica wants to leave. no-no, no. they're- no no, no, no, no. they're teavtng— no no, no, no, no. they're leaving want leaving because they don't want cbartes— leaving because they don't want charles -their_ leaving because they don't want charles -their king- leaving because they don't want charles their king because charles to be their king because tbey-ve — charles to be their king because tbey-ve .notbtng — charles to be their king because they've nothing with they've got nothing to do with they've got nothing to do with tbe ub— they've got nothing to do with tbe ub. tbey— they've got nothing to do with the uk. they are— they've got nothing to do with the uk. they are not apart from the uk. they are not apart from tbe tast— the uk. they are not apart from tbe tact-tbe — the uk. they are not apart from the fact-the uk— the uk. they are not apart from the fact the uk were their the fact that the uk were their sotontat— the fact that the uk were their colonial-actually- the fact that the uk were their colonial actually they colonial overlord, actually they are colonial overlord, actually they teavtng— colonial overlord, actually they are leaving. they— colonial overlord, actually they are leaving. they don't want cbartes— are leaving. they don't want charles-five- are leaving. they don't want charles five countries. charles on their five countries. t hey— charles on their five countries. tbey—on- charles on their five countries. tbey—on tbetr they don't want charles on their tenbtes. —vant- temples. they don't want you anymore—learn- anymore. you might learn commonwealth you commonwealth doesn't want you anyoe— commonwealth doesn't want youi anymore—tbat anymore like mozambique. that voutt— anymore like mozambique. that voutt never— anymore like mozambique. that would never even— anymore like mozambique. that would never even-of- anymore like mozambique. that would never even-of the. would never even part of the british now joining british empire. are now joining the commonwealth. non—fact nonsense. in a moment. rishi sunakis nonsense. in a moment. rishi sunak is over the usa. he sunak is over in the usa. he says he wants to forge an economic alliance with joe biden . but i wonder, can he really achieve that? because joe biden doesn't like the uk either

, g we're proud to be gb watching. we're proud to be gb nevs— watching. we're proud to be gb bevs .— watching. we're proud to be gb news . channel— watching. we're proud to be gb news . channel us— , g we're proud to be gb news . channel us rishi sunak is news. channel us rishi sunak is in news. channel us rishi sunak is tn vvasbtngton— news. channel us rishi sunak is in washington . _ news. channel us rishi sunak is in washington . ri; a�*ri;”ri; in washington. he's there, of course, to meet the us president, joe biden. he wants to forge a closer economic alliance . well, i'm joined down alliance. well, i'm joined down the line from washington dc by nigel gardiner , former aide to nigel gardiner, former aide to margaret thatcher and director of the margaret thatcher centre

for freedom at the heritage foundation. nigel it's great to have you today. you guys have been trying to take prince harry. he's been in court here, but you've been taking him to task in america because you want to see what he said on his visa form, how are you getting on with the american legal process ? well, nigel, thanks very much for ? well, nigel, thanks very much tor bavtng— ? well, nigel, thanks very much tor bavtng ne— ? well, nigel, thanks very much for having me on— 7” well, nigel, thanks very much for having me on the show today. it's for having me on the show today. us to— for having me on the show today. us to great— for having me on the show today. us to great see— for having me on the show today. it's to great see you. and as you— it's to great see you. and as you mentioned,— it's to great see you. and as you mentioned, we have basically taken— you mentioned, we have basically taben tbe— you mentioned, we have basically taken the department of homeland seourtty— taken the department of homeland seourtty tn— taken the department of homeland seourtty tn tbe— taken the department of homeland security in the united states to teterat— security in the united states to teterat court,— security in the united states to federal court, to— security in the united states to federal court, to release the tnntgratton— federal court, to release the immigration records of prince tarry.— immigration records of prince harry vve— immigration records of prince harry. we believe there's a strong— harry. we believe there's a strong bubtto— harry. we believe there's a strong public interest in the reeaset— strong public interest in the reeaset ot— strong public interest in the release of those— strong public interest in the release of those records, esbeotatty— release of those records, especially in— release of those records, especially in light of harry's atntsston— especially in light of harry's admission of— especially in light of harry's admission of widespread illegal trug— admission of widespread illegal trug use— admission of widespread illegal trug tn— admission of widespread illegal drug use. in his— admission of widespread illegal drug use. in his book spur. and so we want to— drug use. in his book spur. and so we want to establish whether or not— so we want to establish whether or not tarry— so we want to establish whether or not tarry vas— so we want to establish whether or not harry was honest in terms of or not harry was honest in terms ot bts— or not harry was honest in terms of his application— or not harry was honest in terms of his application and also vbetber— of his application and also vbetber be— of his application and also whether he was- of his application and also whether he was given any preferential— whether he was given any preferential treatment. there was a court hearing yesterday in the was a court hearing yesterday in tbe btstrtot— was a court hearing yesterday in the district of— was a court hearing yesterday in the district of columbia, teterat— the district of columbia, federal court— the district of columbia, federal court presided over by

teterat— federal court presided over by teterat judge- — federal court presided over by federal judge. he— federal court presided over by federal judge. he has ordered the department— federal judge. he has ordered the department of homeland seourtty— the department of homeland seourtty to— the department of homeland security to issue— the department of homeland security to issue a decision by tuc— security to issue a decision by we next— security to issue a decision by tuc next week— security to issue a decision by tuc next week on— security to issue a decision by tuc next week on whether or not tbey— tuc next week on whether or not tbey vtt— tuc next week on whether or not they will release— tuc next week on whether or not they will release the record . they will release the record. ant— they will release the record. ant tt— they will release the record. ant tt tbey— they will release the record. and if they do _ they will release the record. and if they do not release the reorst— and if they do not release the records , then— and if they do not release the records , then there will likely records, then there will likely be turtber— records, then there will likely be further hearings and ultimately— be further hearings and ultimately a— be further hearings and ultimately a federal judge will tente— ultimately a federal judge will testte on— ultimately a federal judge will decide on whether or not those resorst— decide on whether or not those esorst vtt— decide on whether or not those records will be— decide on whether or not those records will be released. but i tbtnb— records will be released. but i tbtnb a— records will be released. but i tbtnb a very— records will be released. but i think a very positive hearing yestertay— think a very positive hearing yestertay .— think a very positive hearing yesterday . we're fighting to win yesterday. we're fighting to win this yesterday. we're fighting to win tbts tbts— yesterday. we're fighting to win this this legal— yesterday. we're fighting to win this this legal case. we're ttgbttng— this this legal case. we're ttgbttng to— this this legal case. we're fighting to hold the biden administration to account here. tn — administration to account here. tn satttng— administration to account here. tn satttng tor— administration to account here. i'm calling for transparency and accountability. _ i'm calling for transparency and accountability. yeah [its/sq accountability. yeah okay. be very— accountability. yeah okay. be very interesting to see what the outcome of it is. and a very big initiative from the heritage foundation. now bannau rishi sunak has gone to meet what i think is perhaps the most anti—british us president in many, many years to talk about forging a close economic alliance. but in the absence of alliance. but in the absence of a free trade agreement, which the biden administration seems hell bent on not doing is on the economics of this rishi, frankly, wasting his time . uh, frankly, wasting his time. uh,

well , it's actually emerged, well, it's actually emerged, i think, over the last hour or so here in washington that rishi sunakis here in washington that rishi sunak is not going to be pushing the issue of a us—uk trade deal and that is in large part because joe biden's been very hostile towards britain in, as you say, he has been, i think, the most anti british us president in modern times here. biden is no friend of great brttatn— biden is no friend of great brttatn .— biden is no friend of great brttatn . be— biden is no friend of great britain . he has- biden is no friend of great britain . he has treated britain britain. he has treated britain in britain. he has treated britain tn an— britain. he has treated britain tn an abbatttng— britain. he has treated britain in an appalling fashion. biden's ant—breat— in an appalling fashion. biden's anti—brexit is— in an appalling fashion. biden's anti—brexit is pro— in an appalling fashion. biden's anti—brexit is pro eu . he is in an appalling fashion. biden's anti—brexit is pro eu. he is a sneertng— anti—brexit is pro eu. he is a sneertng ant— anti—brexit is pro eu. he is a sneering and arrogant left wing bresttent— sneering and arrogant left wing president actually who has undermined— president actually who has undermined the us uk special retattonsbtb— undermined the us uk special retattonsbtb .— undermined the us uk special relationship . i— undermined the us uk special relationship . i do— undermined the us uk special relationship . i do think, though relationship. i do think, though it's relationship. i do think, though tt-s a— relationship. i do think, though tt-s a buge— relationship. i do think, though it's a huge shame— relationship. i do think, though it's a huge shame that sunak is not busbtng— it's a huge shame that sunak is not pushing forward actually vttb— not pushing forward actually vttb a— not pushing forward actually with a us—uk_ not pushing forward actually with a us—uk trade deal because many— with a us—uk trade deal because many ebes— with a us—uk trade deal because many members of— with a us—uk trade deal because many members of congress, many us many members of congress, many us senatos— many members of congress, many us senators fully— many members of congress, many us senators fully support a trate— us senators fully support a trate teat— us senators fully support a trade deal with— us senators fully support a trade deal with the united btngton— trade deal with the united kingdom. rishi sunak should be stanttng— kingdom. rishi sunak should be stanttng ub— kingdom. rishi sunak should be stanttng up to— kingdom. rishi sunak should be standing up to joe biden. he sbouttn-t— standing up to joe biden. he shouldn't be— standing up to joe biden. he shouldn't be demonstrating any stgn— shouldn't be demonstrating any stgn ot— shouldn't be demonstrating any sign of weakness.— shouldn't be demonstrating any sign of weakness. he shouldn't be bovtov— sign of weakness. he shouldn't be kowtow bowing to the biden

vbtte— be kowtow bowing to the biden vtbtte bouse— be kowtow bowing to the biden white house here, the prime tttntster— white house here, the prime minister should— white house here, the prime minister should be standing up for minister should be standing up tor brttatn— minister should be standing up for britain on— minister should be standing up for britain on the— minister should be standing up for britain on the world stage. rt-s— for britain on the world stage. rt-s tn— for britain on the world stage. it's in britain's— for britain on the world stage. it's in britain's interest to bave— it's in britain's interest to bave a— it's in britain's interest to have a trade— it's in britain's interest to have a trade deal with the unttet— have a trade deal with the united states. _ have a trade deal with the united states. there's tremendous- united states. there's tremendous support in the us songress. — tremendous support in the us. songress. —tbe congress. sunak should raise the tssuelr— congress. sunak should raise the tssuelr areeg— congress. sunak should raise the issue, i agree. according to issue, but i agree. according to reports— issue, but i agree. according to reports bere— issue, but i agree. according to reports here,-he's- issue, but i agree. according to reports here, he's dropped issue, but i agree. according to replidea.ere, he's dropped issue, but i agree. according to replidea. now he's dropped issue, but i agree. according to replidea. now t's dropped issue, but i agree. according to replidea. now a"rbt"

devastating. and direct quotes and reports from health officials in ghana saying that because of a lack of nurses, more people in ghana are dying . more people in ghana are dying. so rather than saying, isn't it wonderful that we take nurses and doctors from much poorer parts of the world, maybe we should think we could do those parts of the world a favour by training more of our own people . now, frankie boyle, left wing comedian , did a show on channel comedian, did a show on channel 4. it was very much anti—royal. but i think it went too far. take a listen to this. and it was just before the coronation i don't make any jokes when the queen— i don't make any jokes when the queen gag,— i don't make any jokes when the queen gag, r— i don't make any jokes when the queen died, i maintained a strtst— queen died, i maintained a strict silence— queen died, i maintained a strict silence as— queen died, i maintained a strict silence as i tried to sneak— strict silence as i tried to sneak back— strict silence as i tried to sneak back out- strict silence as i tried to sneak back out of her bedroom. outspoken — sneak back out of her bedroom. outspoken comedian— sneak back out of her bedroom. outspoken comedian frankie boyle isn't the greatest fan of the british monarchy. henry the etgbtb— british monarchy. henry the etgbtb vas— british monarchy. henry the etgbtb a— british monarchy. henry the eighth was a keen- a ”ray henry the eighth was a keen hunter, and judging— eighth was a keen hunter, and judging tron — eighth was a keen hunter, and judging from his— eighth was a keen hunter, and judging from his portraits, he natnty— judging from his portraits, he mainly hunted— judging from his portraits, he mainly hunted cheese and in his very— mainly hunted cheese and in his very untgue— mainly hunted cheese and in his own very unique way , the british own very unique way, the british nonarsby— own very unique way, the british nonarsby abbear— own very unique way, the british monarchy appear like animals in

a tbat-s— monarchy appear like animals in a zoo that's fallen— monarchy appear like animals in a zoo that's fallen on hard ttnes. — a zoo that's fallen on hard ttnes. bes— a zoo that's fallen on hard times. he's-to- a zoo that's fallen on hardi times. he's-to show a zoo that's fallen on hard- times. he's-to show us why times. he's going to show us why he'd like to say farewell to them once for and all to find out about the future of the monarchy. we must look back at tbetr— monarchy. we must look back at tbetr-so— monarchy. we must look back at tbetr-so bet-s— monarchy. we must look back at their-so let's get-in- their past. so let's get out in tbe— their past. so let's get out in tbe streets— their past. so let's get out in the streets-raise- their past. so let's get out in the streets-raise a- their past. so let's get out in the streets raise a bottle the streets and raise a bottle to-ttttet— the streets and raise a bottle to -filled with- the streets and raise a bottle to filled with petrol and to them filled with petrol and a burntng— to them filled with petrol and a burntng rag.— to them filled with petrol and a burning rag. well,— to them filled with petrol and a burning rag. well, i think tbat-s— burning rag. well, i think that's absolutely disgusting. ant— that's absolutely disgusting. but you— that's absolutely disgusting. antyou-tabs— that's absolutely disgusting. and you .take-mickeyl that's absolutely disgusting. i and you .take-mickey out and you can take the mickey out of queen victoria you want of queen victoria if you want to. part to. although it's all part i think anti british think of that anti british narrative that i was discussing just a few moments ago with femi. but to suggest, you know, let us effectively get a petrol bomb and bomb the monarchy , i bomb and bomb the monarchy, i think it's absolutely way out of order . i think it's absolutely way out of order. i think it's insightful. i think if anybody on gb news said it, they would as opposed to channel 4, they'd be total and utter uproar. to channel 4, they'd be total and utter uproar . and yet ofcom and utter uproar. and yet ofcom are regulated for have decided that it's okay and i don't often criticise the regulator but i repeat the point . had that been repeat the point. had that been said by anybody here at gb news,

there would have been hell to pay- there would have been hell to pay. in a moment we will talk about dangerous dogs and killer attacks because they're on the increase rapidly and significantly. and since the pandemic, many more of us own dogs and i'll be joined live in the studio by a rhodesian ridgeback dog

well the dog attacks are on the rise. some of them, of course, fatal. and even today , as we fatal. and even today, as we speak out on the newswires , a speak out on the newswires, a woman in east london attacked and dragged to the ground by three dogs, screaming, terrified she's going to be okay. wayne davis mp has described an epidemic of killing by dogs. that was that was said last night. and according to the all party parliamentary dog advisory welfare group, eight people have died in dog attacks since 2021.

i mean , that genuinely is an i mean, that genuinely is an alarming figure. there were 20 arrests made last year of people because they had dangerous dogs and the number of arrests is up. the number of attacks is up , the the number of attacks is up, the number of deaths is up. and of course, the number of dogs is up.and course, the number of dogs is up. and the daily mirror have launched a campaign time for action on dangerous dogs. and this is on the back of jack ellis, who was murdered by a dog at the age of ten. it's reached the level where we actually have to have a proper conversation and take this seriously. and work out what is happening now . work out what is happening now. i've got two guests with me in the studio. i've got paula o'sullivan , a canine o'sullivan, a canine behaviourist, and i've got tilly, i got tilly , the tilly, i got tilly, the rhodesian ridgeback, who at the moment is being incredibly well behaved. moment is being incredibly well behaved . of course, paula, thank behaved. of course, paula, thank you for joining behaved. of course, paula, thank you forjoining us. thank you . you for joining us. thank you. of course, there have always been problems over the years , been problems over the years, but it is this rate of increase

thatis but it is this rate of increase that is disturbing. looking at the numbers, basically since the pandemic, the number of dogs in the old days, we had dog licences. there was a register of dogs. it was seven and six in old money, but there was a register of dogs and we knew exactly how many dogs there were and how they were categorised, and how they were categorised, and anymore. and that doesn't exist anymore. so many dogs are so knowing how many dogs are owned by families the country owned by families in the country is more difficult. but it's certainly gone up 1,015% since the beginning of the pandemic. and i sort of do begin to wonder whether perhaps there are quite a few people who've taken dogs dunng a few people who've taken dogs during lockdown who perhaps don't quite know what they're doing. well absolutely. that is the cause of the increase- the cause of the increase besause— the cause of the increase because there _ the cause of the increase because there has been a rise of dog— because there has been a rise of tog ovnersbtb— because there has been a rise of dog ownership in— because there has been a rise of dog ownership in the uk and unfortunately— dog ownership in the uk and unfortunately ,_ dog ownership in the uk and unfortunately , those and unfortunately, those dogs and beobte— unfortunately, those dogs and beobte-bave— unfortunately, those dogs and people have access to people didn't have access to tratntng— people didn't have access to training classes— people didn't have access to training classes or socialisation right in the srtttsat— socialisation right in the critical stages- socialisation right in the critical stages of development. so critical stages of development. so we— critical stages of development. so we to— critical stages of development. so we to bave— critical stages of development. so we do have a— critical stages of development. so we do have a surge in sort of reasttve— so we do have a surge in sort of reasttve ttotty— so we do have a surge in sort of reactive motty and— so we do have a surge in sort of reactive motty and aggression as a resutt— reactive motty and aggression as a resutt ot— reactive motty and aggression as

a result of lack— reactive motty and aggression as a result of lack of— reactive motty and aggression as a result of lack of poor socialisation- a result of lack of poor socialisation and training due to sovrb. — socialisation and training due to sovrb. rs— socialisation and training due to covm. is the— socialisation and training due to covid. is the problem here more likely to be the owners than the dogs? not always days, attbougb— than the dogs? not always days, attbougb, you— than the dogs? not always days, although, you know,— than the dogs? not always days, although, you know, we- sr?" 33“ not always days, although, you know, we can't teny— although, you know, we can't teny tbat— although, you know, we can't deny that that— although, you know, we can't deny that that does happen. but aggresston— deny that that does happen. but aggresston ts— deny that that does happen. but aggression is both— deny that that does happen. but aggression is both genetic and ebtgenetts— aggression is both genetic and ebtgenetts .— aggression is both genetic and epigenetic , meaning it's epigenetic, meaning it's environmental to and it can be very— environmental to and it can be very somber.— environmental to and it can be very sonbtev. so— environmental to and it can be very complex. so it can be as a resutt— very complex. so it can be as a resutt ot— very complex. so it can be as a result of previous— very complex. so it can be as a result of previous trauma or it be— result of previous trauma or it be tue— result of previous trauma or it be tue to— result of previous trauma or it can be due to lack of socialisation- can be due to lack of socialisation during critical bertots— socialisation during critical bertots ot— socialisation during critical periods of development. it can be-as— periods of development. it can be-as vett. — periods of development. it can be-as well. so- periods of development. it can be-as well. so i- periods of development. it can be as well. so i think be genetic as well. so i think we reatty— be genetic as well. so i think we really need— be genetic as well. so i think we really need to— be genetic as well. so i think we really need to look into the bottom— we really need to look into the bottom level.— we really need to look into the bottom level. breeder thing. so going— bottom level. breeder thing. so gotng bast— bottom level. breeder thing. so gotng task to— bottom level. breeder thing. so going back to licencing and registration,— going back to licencing and registration, so— going back to licencing and registration, so do you think we sboutt— registration, so do you think we sboutt go— registration, so do you think we should go back— registration, so do you think we should go back to— registration, so do you think we should go back to that 100? reab— should go back to that 100? veab r— should go back to that 100? yeah, i generally have to say tbat— yeah, i generally have to say tbat r— yeah, i generally have to say tbat r bate— yeah, i generally have to say that i hate government and i bate— that i hate government and i hate licencing— that i hate government and i hate licencing and i hate fees , hate licencing and i hate fees, but— hate licencing and i hate fees, but r— hate licencing and i hate fees, but r tbtnb— hate licencing and i hate fees, but i think given— hate licencing and i hate fees, but i think given these figures , tbere— but i think given these figures , tbere ts— but i think given these figures , there is actually— but i think given these figures , there is actually a logical argument— , there is actually a logical argument for— , there is actually a logical argument for it. 'r: , there is actually a logical argument for it. ' r: , argument for it. and for once tn — argument for it. and for once i'm going to come out on the side of more bureaucracy. it's unusual for me, but i think it does make sense. then, of course, the debate moves on to breeds. now we already have a ban on the breeding sale and

exchange of pit bull terriers . exchange of pit bull terriers. japanese tosas . there are 3 or 4 japanese tosas. there are 3 or 4 breeds of dogs that we've just decided are simply too dangerous . i think part of this is because of the pounds per square inch that they can bite the size and the power. yeah, the size ant— and the power. yeah, the size ant tbe— and the power. yeah, the size ant tbe pover— and the power. yeah, the size and the power as— and the power. yeah, the size and the power as well- an: yeah, the size and the power as well . but i and the power as well. but i tt— and the power as well. but i mean, i'd like— and the power as well. but i mean, i'd like to— and the power as well. but i mean, i'd like to see the tangerous— mean, i'd like to see the dangerous dogs act move away tron— dangerous dogs act move away tron breet— dangerous dogs act move away from breed specific legislation . vtoutt— from breed specific legislation . vtoutt yout— from breed specific legislation . would you? yes,— from breed specific legislation . would you? yes, because so you-t— . would you? yes, because so you-t tove— . would you? yes, because so you-t tove to— . would you? yes, because so you'd love to see— . would you? yes, because so you'd love to see pit bulls back betng— you'd love to see pit bulls back being wandering— you'd love to see pit bulls back being wandering around our streets.— being wandering around our streets. well— being wandering around our streets. well that's what i'm saytng— streets. well that's what i'm saytng ts— streets. well that's what i'm saying is aggression is not tsotatet— saying is aggression is not isolated to— saying is aggression is not isolated to any— saying is aggression is not isolated to any specific breed, anv— isolated to any specific breed, any tog— isolated to any specific breed, any tog ts— isolated to any specific breed, any dog is capable of biting . so any dog is capable of biting. so we beet— any dog is capable of biting. so we neet to— any dog is capable of biting. so we need to tackle— any dog is capable of biting. so we need to tackle the issue from the we need to tackle the issue from tbe grount— we need to tackle the issue from the ground upwards . the ground upwards. so, okay, togtsatty— the ground upwards. so, okay, togtsatty .— the ground upwards. so, okay, togtsatty . yes.— the ground upwards. so, okay, togtsatty . yes, r— the ground upwards. so, okay, logically , yes, i get what logically, yes, i get what you're saying. any dog is capable of biting, but some dogs biting aren't going to hurt very much. yes, other dogs biting because of this psi that i mentioned earlier can do huge harm. more severity. however, if the harm. more severity. however, if tbe bbtt— harm. more severity. however, if tbe bbtt toes— harm. more severity. however, if the ddr does its— harm. more severity. however, if the ddr does its job— more severity. however, if the ddr does its job tackling tbts— the ddr does its job tackling issues, this issue from the grount— issues, this issue from the grount ub— issues, this issue from the ground up with— issues, this issue from the ground up with responsible bagging,—

ground up with responsible breettng, tt— ground up with responsible breeding, it will put a stop to all breeding, it will put a stop to at ot— breeding, it will put a stop to at ot tbe— breeding, it will put a stop to all of the backyard breeding and all of the backyard breeding and at ot— all of the backyard breeding and at ot tbe— all of the backyard breeding and all of the importation of botenttatty— all of the importation of potentially dangerous dogs. and tben— potentially dangerous dogs. and tben bov— potentially dangerous dogs. and then how would— potentially dangerous dogs. and then how would okay, i'm just tbtnbtng— then how would okay, i'm just thinking about— then how would okay, i'm just thinking about this. " thinking about this. i mean, bsart— thinking about this. i mean, we've heard all— thinking about this. i mean, we've heard all sorts of horror stories about puppy farms. we've heard all sorts of horror stories about puppy farms . we've stories about puppy farms. we've heard i mean, lots of stuff . heard i mean, lots of stuff. we've heard about the dog trade. that's been pretty unsavoury . that's been pretty unsavoury. would registration stop all of that ? i'm would registration stop all of that? i'm glad it wouldn't be my job to put in all the legend. you know, i'm a clinical behaviourist— you know, i'm a clinical behaviourist that that, that. but— behaviourist that that, that. but tt— behaviourist that that, that. but t we— behaviourist that that, that. but if we were— behaviourist that that, that. but if we were able to do it barge,— but if we were able to do it betore, r— but if we were able to do it before, i can't— but if we were able to do it before, i can't see why we can't do before, i can't see why we can't to t— before, i can't see why we can't to t agatn.— before, i can't see why we can't do it again. and— before, i can't see why we can't do it again. and if— before, i can't see why we can't do it again. and if we have resbonstbte— do it again. and if we have responsible breeding does put a stop— responsible breeding does put a stop to— responsible breeding does put a stop to at— responsible breeding does put a stop to at ot— responsible breeding does put a stop to all of the— responsible breeding does put a stop to all of the importation . stop to all of the importation. so stop to all of the importation. so bov— stop to all of the importation. so bow to— stop to all of the importation. so bow to us— stop to all of the importation. so how do we enforce- stop to all of the importation. so how do we enforce responsible breeding. they so how do we enforce responsible breeding . they should be breeding. they should be ttsenset— breeding. they should be licenced. they— : g they should be licenced. they should be ttsenset— licenced. they should be licenced yes,— licenced. they should be licenced yes, absolutely. actuator— licenced yes, absolutely. actually, actually- licenced yes, absolutely. actually, actually ,- licenced yes, absolutely. actually, actually , the truth is actually, actually, the truth is it's even more important that anybody breeding and selling dogsis anybody breeding and selling dogs is licenced than those owning them. absolutely yes. so it should be the breeders-

g ' yes. so it should be the breeders that are licenced— it should be the breeders that are licenced and— it should be the breeders that are licenced and registered. and tben— are licenced and registered. and tben tbat— are licenced and registered. and then that gives— are licenced and registered. and then that gives them the botenttat— then that gives them the potential to _ then that gives them the potential to vet potential owners and _ potential to vet potential owners and also raise education ant— owners and also raise education and awareness on— owners and also raise education and awareness on responsible ovnersbtb— and awareness on responsible ovnersbtb tor— and awareness on responsible ownership for anyone that takes any ot— ownership for anyone that takes any ot tbetr— ownership for anyone that takes any of their dogs— ownership for anyone that takes any of their dogs. brirrr ownership for anyone that takes any of their dogs . briry any of their dogs. now, we've got tilly in the studio. yes and tilly is being too well behaved . she's very relaxed now. tilly is . she's very relaxed now. tilly ts a— . she's very relaxed now. tilly is a rhodesian— . she's very relaxed now. tilly is a rhodesian ridgeback. . she's very relaxed now. tilly is a rhodesian ridgeback . yes. is a rhodesian ridgeback. yes. and this is a big, strong, powerful dog. equally capable of totng— powerful dog. equally capable of totng some— powerful dog. equally capable of doing some damage— powerful dog. equally capable of doing some damage .— grit; equally capable of doing some damage . yes. yeah. as doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a, doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a you— doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a you know,— doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a, you know, a— doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a, you know, a brt— doing some damage. yes. yeah. as a, you know, a pit bull or a and tbey— a, you know, a pit bull or a and tbey vtt— a, you know, a pit bull or a and tbey vttt be— a, you know, a pit bull or a and tbey vttt be a— a, you know, a pit bull or a and they will be a hunting dog in tbetr— they will be a hunting dog in their natural— they will be a hunting dog in their natural environment. they ortgtnatty— their natural environment. they were originally bred as hunting togs. — were originally bred as hunting togs. tbat-s— were originally bred as hunting dogs. that's right. yeah so how dogs. that's right. yeah so how to us— dogs. that's right. yeah so how to us tabs— dogs. that's right. yeah so how to us tabs a— dogs. that's right. yeah so how do we take a big— dogs. that's right. yeah so how do we take a big powerful dog like tilly and make it a great pet and a dog that's going to be safe with people elsewhere? how do we how do you do that? well, with tilly, for example,- do we how do you do that? well, with tilly, for example, we- with tilly, for example, we startet— with tilly, for example, we started .with _ with tilly, for example, we started with puppy school, started off with puppy school, vbtsb— started off with puppy school, vbtsb-goot— started off with puppy school, which good socialisation which means good socialisation to—events- which means good socialisation to_events, people,| to environment events, people, btases— to environment events, people, btases ant— to environment events, people, places and other— to environment events, people, places and other dogs . right places and other dogs. right tron— places and other dogs. right tron tbat— places and other dogs. right from that critical period of development,— from that critical period of development, which is the first 16

development, which is the first re veesb— development, which is the first re veesb bov— development, which is the first 16 weeks. now there's a lot of onttne— 16 weeks. now there's a lot of online puppy— 16 weeks. now there's a lot of online puppy training going on, onttne— online puppy training going on, online training— online puppy training going on, online training resources, and beobte— online training resources, and pests ae— online training resources, and people are opting for that as an easy— people are opting for that as an easy obtton— people are opting for that as an easy option rather— people are opting for that as an easy option rather than going to puppy— easy option rather than going to puppy schoolb— easy option rather than going to puppy schoolsr for_ easy option rather than going to puppy schools, for example , puppy schools, for example, vbere— puppy schools, for example, vbere tts— puppy schools, for example, where it's really— puppy schools, for example, where it's really important. tbs— where it's really important. the socialisation _ where it's really important. the socialisation really- where it's really important. the socialisation really is important very, very important. but not just during that srtttsat— but not just during that critical stage- but not just during that critical stage of development, besause— critical stage of development, because . should _ critical stage of development, because should be because it should also be eguatty— because it should also be eguatty as— because it should also be equally as important throughout atoessenset— equally as important throughout adolescence younger adolescence and their younger yeas— adolescence and their younger years-but— adolescence and their younger years. but critically, in years. right but critically, in tbose— years. right but critically, in tbose ttrst— years. right but critically, in those first 16— years. right but critically, in those first 16 weeks. yes okay. ga— those first 16 weeks. yes okay. to. ttstsn— those first 16 weeks. yes okay. no, listen, that's— those first 16 weeks. yes okay. no, listen, that's a valuable conversation . paula o'sullivan, conversation. paula o'sullivan, thank you for coming tilly thank you for coming in. tilly thank coming in. you've thank you for coming in. you've behaved much. i mean, of course, i didn't want tilly to go completely mad, but tilly completely mad, but. but tilly has been amazingly good and thanks for the chat . and yeah, i thanks for the chat. and yeah, i have to say , this increase, you have to say, this increase, you know, we don't need hysteria in terms of legislation. but i do think what paula is saying, particularly about the breeders being licenced, i think does make a huge amount of sense. now i've got time for a barrage. the farage leah in bradford has a

question for me . hi, nigel. question for me. hi, nigel. tntty— question for me. hi, nigel. emily mayfield_ question for me. hi, nigel. emily mayfield i've- : hi, nigel. emily mayfield i've been street atnost— emily mayfield i've been street atnost tor— emily mayfield i've been street atnost tor a— emily mayfield i've been street almost for a long— emily mayfield i've been street almost for a long time and tbere-s— almost for a long time and tbere-s a— almost for a long time and there's a lot— almost for a long time and there's a lot of— almost for a long time and there's a lot of people will be dying— there's a lot of people will be tytng on— there's a lot of people will be tytng on tbe— there's a lot of people will be dying on the streets. can you btease— dying on the streets. can you please explain— dying on the streets. can you please explain what everybody's totng— please explain what everybody's totng about— please explain what everybody's totng about t— please explain what everybody's doing about it ? _ please explain what everybody's doing about it ? �*rfitrigl doing about it? well, the question there of homelessness and of people dying on the streets, look, there are more and more people, i'm afraid, being made homeless. the higher rents become, the fewer rental houses are the market. houses there are on the market. and frankly, the lack of social housing is a massive problem. and i'm not going to take a cheap shot at this. but you know, we are actually housing a huge number of people who are coming into this country illegally . and maybe we should illegally. and maybe we should think about our own poor just a little bit more . i've got time little bit more. i've got time for one more question from ben . for one more question from ben. hi nigel. i'm ben. ijust wanted to asb— hi nigel. i'm ben. ijust wanted to ask about— hi nigel. i'm ben. ijust wanted to ask about what— hi nigel. i'm ben. ijust wanted to ask about what your- b gig i'm ben. ijust wanted to ask about what your opinion is to ask about what your opinion ts on— to ask about what your opinion ts on btaus— to ask about what your opinion is on klaus schwab, the great beset— is on klaus schwab, the great tteset ant— is on klaus schwab, the great reset and the— is on klaus schwab, the great reset and the world economic torun— reset and the world economic torun reatty— reset and the world economic forum really not— reset and the world economic forum really not really heard nusb— forum really not really heard nusb about— forum really not really heard much about it— forum really not really heard much about it on— forum really not really heard much about it on gb news. �*rfitrigl much about it on gb news. well, the much about it on gb news. well, tbs vtortt— much about it on gb news. well, the world economic— much about it on gb news. well, the world economic forum , look, the world economic forum, look, of course, the world economic

forum exists just as bilderberg groups and other things existed before. and yes, they do aggressive pursue a globalist agenda. and of course they're right behind brussels and the european union. they seem to care very little for the liberty of the individual. they're right behind the who. pandemic treaty. and yeah, frank , i think treaty. and yeah, frank, i think they are, as the americans would say, bad dudes. but we have some good eggs at gb news is one of them, of course. is jacob rees—mogg. and i wonder , jacob, rees—mogg. and i wonder, jacob, what have you got coming up for us today? hey, we're going to start— us today? hey, we're going to start vttb— us today? hey, we're going to start with the— us today? hey, we're going to start with the prime- 3“ hey, we're going to start with the prime minister's vtstt— start with the prime minister's vtstt to— start with the prime minister's vtstt to tbe— start with the prime minister's visit to the us— start with the prime minister's visit to the us to— start with the prime minister's visit to the us to see the tresttent— visit to the us to see the president biden, who doesn't nusb—ant- president biden, who doesn't. much _and whether president biden, who doesn't- much _and whether he much like the uk and whether he vouttn-t— much like the uk and whether he vouttn-t be— much like the uk and whether he wouldn't be better— much like the uk and whether he wouldn't be better off staying at bone,— wouldn't be better off staying at home, dealing— wouldn't be better off staying at home, dealing with lots of tbe— at home, dealing with lots of tbe-tbat— at home, dealing with lots ofi the _that-country the problems that the country tases— the problems that the country tases at— the problems that the country tases at tbe — the problems that the country faces at the moment. and pm oetes— faces at the moment. and pm sometimes find— faces at the moment. and pm sometimes find the world stage is sometimes find the world stage ts great— sometimes find the world stage ts great tun— sometimes find the world stage is great fun when— sometimes find the world stage is great fun when the opinion bobs— is great fun when the opinion botts ae— is great fun when the opinion polls are difficult at home and tben— polls are difficult at home and tben-satsb— polls are difficult at home and tben-satsb ub— polls are difficult at home and then catch up with the then we'll catch up with the bube— then we'll catch up with the bube-ant- then we'll catch up with the- duke-and-been duke of sussex and what's been going— duke of sussex and what's been going extraordinary

going on in that extraordinary earty— going on in that extraordinary earty trtat. — going on in that extraordinary early trial. fascinating information- early trial. fascinating information that's coming out of it . information that's coming out of t . veab. — information that's coming out of t . veab. r— information that's coming out of it . yeah. i mean,— information that's coming out of it . yeah. i mean, he- information that's coming out of it . yeah. ”�* ”rialyr information that's coming out of it . yeah. ”rialyr it. yeah. i mean, he really you know, it's interesting , isn't know, it's interesting, isn't it? this sort of concept, my truth , it's all about how he truth, it's all about how he feels and he's got every right to be aggrieved. i mean, his mother died when he was 12. an awful circumstance , his. but it awful circumstance, his. but it almost feels me, jacob, we're almost feels to me, jacob, we're moving a world where how moving into a world where how you feel seems to matter more than objective facts. and that can't be than objective facts. and that sat be ttgbt— than objective facts. and that can't be right. and— than objective facts. and that can't be right. and it- an?“ , , and that can't be right. and it mustn't ubset— can't be right. and it mustn't ubset tbe— can't be right. and it mustn't upset the constitution. i think the upset the constitution. i think tbe bey— upset the constitution. i think tbe tey tbtng— upset the constitution. i think the key thing is— upset the constitution. i think the key thing is we defend treeton— the key thing is we defend treeton ot— the key thing is we defend freedom of the— the key thing is we defend freedom of the press. and this saselatt— freedom of the press. and this case-all about— freedom of the press. and this case all about limiting, case is all about limiting, tetbertng— case is all about limiting, tethering the— case is all about limiting, tethering the press, making it more subservient to the rich and taous— more subservient to the rich and taous ant— more subservient to the rich and famous. and that's— more subservient to the rich and famous. and that's very bad constitutional— famous. and that's very bad constitutional territory . “415?" constitutional territory. yeah, i constitutional territory. yeah, r mean.— constitutional territory. yeah, r tts— constitutional territory. yeah, i mean, it's interesting. tom bower earlier on was saying effectively he thought prince harry was doing the bidding of hugh grant and that group that want you know, we've had leveson, but they wanted even more controls. jacob is going to be you in just a moment. be with you in just a moment. now, tomorrow i'm going to be with you from the you may think this is very appropriate from

the brewing capital of the country. i'm going to be in burton on trent tomorrow evening doing a farage at large. i might just get a chance to visit a brewery before we go on air. and i'm hoping that the weather forecast is going to say it'll be a nice day. good evening. tbet— be a nice day. good evening. atev beattn— be a nice day. good evening. alex deakin here— ”�* rtri; r:q good evening. alex deakin here with your tatest— alex deakin here with your latest weather— alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the net— latest weather update from the met orttse — latest weather update from the met office for— latest weather update from the met office for gb— latest weather update from the met office for gb news. changes are met office for gb news. changes on tbe— met office for gb news. changes on tbe-but— met office for gb news. changes are on the but tomorrow is are on the way, but tomorrow is going— are on the way, but tomorrow is gotng to— are on the way, but tomorrow is gotng to be— are on the way, but tomorrow is gotng to be snore— are on the way, but tomorrow is going to be more of the same. it starts— going to be more of the same. it starts a— going to be more of the same. it starts a brt— going to be more of the same. it starts a bit dull— going to be more of the same. it starts a bit dull and eventually it starts a bit dull and eventually tt turns— starts a bit dull and eventually tt turns sunny— starts a bit dull and eventually it turns sunny for— starts a bit dull and eventually it turns sunny for most with the ste— it turns sunny for most with the ste stte— it turns sunny for most with the eastern side again— it turns sunny for most with the eastern side again likely to beep— eastern side again likely to keep a— eastern side again likely to keep a tot— eastern side again likely to keep a tot ot— eastern side again likely to keep a lot of cloud down to the soutbvest. — keep a lot of cloud down to the southwest. low— keep a lot of cloud down to the southwest. low pressure is brevtng— southwest. low pressure is brewing that— southwest. low pressure is brewing that will create a bit of brewing that will create a bit ot a— brewing that will create a bit ot a sbange— brewing that will create a bit of a change in— brewing that will create a bit of a change in the outlook, but fort— of a change in the outlook, but so. as— of a change in the outlook, but so. as r— of a change in the outlook, but to. as r say,— of a change in the outlook, but for, as i say, tonight and tomorrow, it's- for, as i say, tonight and tomorrow, it's more the same. tomorrow, it's more of the same. so tomorrow, it's more of the same. so-stout— tomorrow, it's more of the same. so-cloud that's— tomorrow, it's more of the same. so cloud that's lurking so the cloud that's been lurking in so the cloud that's been lurking tn—trttt— so the cloud that's been lurking in_drift back- in the east just drift back turtber— in the east just drift back further inland— in the east just drift back further inland as we go through the further inland as we go through tbe ntgbt— further inland as we go through tbe ntgbt. so— further inland as we go through tbe ntgbt. so a— further inland as we go through the night. so a fine , warm the night. so a fine, warm eventng— the night. so a fine, warm eventng tor— the night. so a fine, warm evening for many, but the cloudy and evening for many, but the cloudy ant ooet— evening for many, but the cloudy and cooler conditions in the east— and cooler conditions in the east sbreat— and cooler conditions in the east spread back to most areas tbrougb— east spread back to most areas tbrougb tbe— east spread back to most areas through the night. temperatures botttng— through the night. temperatures botttnglat— through the night. temperatures botttnglat 8— through the night. temperatures holding-at 8 to— through the night. temperatures holding.at 8 to 10- through the night. temperatures holding at 8 to 10 celsius, a holding up at 8 to 10 celsius, a bit holding up at 8 to 10 celsius, a btt warmer— holding up at 8 to 10 celsius, a bit warmer than— holding up at 8 to 10 celsius, a bit warmer than that in the soutb—vest— bit warmer than that in the south—west where it's going to

get gutte— south—west where it's going to get gutte vtnty— south—west where it's going to get quite windy, actually. a btustery— get quite windy, actually. a blustery night— get quite windy, actually. a blustery night across the far soutb—vest— blustery night across the far south—west england and parts south—west of england and parts of south—west of england and parts ot-soast— south—west of england and parts ot-soast-asl of the south coast of wales. as vett— of the south coast of wales. as vetblvttt— of the south coast of wales. as well..will.windy- of the south coast of wales. as well. will windy too, well. it will be windy too, bere— well. it will be windy too, here,-thursday. . well. it will be windy too, here, thursday. for well. it will be windy too,- here,-thursday. for most, here, during thursday. for most, it's here, during thursday. for most, tt-s a— here, during thursday. for most, tt-s a grey— here, during thursday. for most, tt-s a grey start— here, during thursday. for most, it's a grey start tomorrow, but tbe— it's a grey start tomorrow, but tbe-sboutt— it's a grey start tomorrow, but the-should break- it's a grey start tomorrow, but the should break up in the cloud should break up in most—tronl most locally locations from ntt—norntng— most locally locations from mid—morning onwards. again, parts— mid—morning onwards. again, barts ot— mid—morning onwards. again, barts ot tbe— mid—morning onwards. again, parts of the east— mid—morning onwards. again, parts of the east coast looking tabby— parts of the east coast looking tatrty gum,— parts of the east coast looking fairly glum, much— parts of the east coast looking fairly glum, much of northern ssottant— fairly glum, much of northern ssottant as— fairly glum, much of northern scotland as well. _ fairly glum, much of northern scotland as well. but perhaps a tay— scotland as well. but perhaps a sunnier day across— scotland as well. but perhaps a sunnier day across parts of east angtta— sunnier day across parts of east angtta maybe— sunnier day across parts of east angtta maybe a— sunnier day across parts of east anglia, maybe a warmer, anglia, maybe a touch warmer, attbougb— anglia, maybe a touch warmer, although-still- anglia, maybe a touch warmer, although-still be- although there will still be tbat— although there will still be tbat-vtnt— although there will still be that wind coming in from that cold wind coming in from the that cold wind coming in from tbe nortb— that cold wind coming in from the north highest the north sea. highest temperatures down to the soutb—vest— temperatures down to the south—west could get up to 25 tegrees— south—west could get up to 25 degrees-thursday- south—west could get up to 25 degrees thursday afternoon. degrees come thursday afternoon. but degrees come thursday afternoon. but tovn— degrees come thursday afternoon. but town to— degrees come thursday afternoon. but down to the— degrees come thursday afternoon. but down to the south—west as vett— but down to the south—west as vett as— but down to the south—west as vett as tbe— but down to the south—west as well as the winds— but down to the south—west as well as the winds picking up the stout— well as the winds picking up the cloud increasing.— well as the winds picking up the cloud increasing. and look at tbts— cloud increasing. and look at tbts. r— cloud increasing. and look at this. i haven't— cloud increasing. and look at this. i haven't much of this. i haven't seen much of tbts— this. i haven't seen much of this recently.— this. i haven't seen much of this recently. rain in the form of this recently. rain in the form ot sboes— this recently. rain in the form of showers, which— this recently. rain in the form of showers, which are more ttbety— of showers, which are more tttety turtng— of showers, which are more likely during friday in the south—west.— likely during friday in the south—west. hit and miss not everyvbere— south—west. hit and miss not everywhere seeing them, but tbere— everywhere seeing them, but tbere vtt— everywhere seeing them, but there will be— everywhere seeing them, but there will be some around etsevbere— there will be some around elsewhere friday. it's a elsewhere on friday. it's a stnttar— elsewhere on friday. it's a similar-starts- elsewhere on friday. it's a similar-starts a- elsewhere on friday. it's a. similar-starts a.drab similar story starts a bit drab tast— similar story starts a bit drab tast coast— similar story starts a bit drab east coast stays— similar story starts a bit drab east coast stays cool and quite nutty— east coast stays cool and quite nurby .— east coast stays cool and quite nurby , but— east coast stays cool and quite nutty , but tor— east coast stays cool and quite murky , but for many it will be murky, but for many it will be anotber— murky, but for many it will be another sunny— murky, but for many it will be another sunny day on friday. and agatn— another sunny day on friday. and agatn .— another sunny day on friday. and agatn , trest— another sunny day on friday. and again , west will— another sunny day on friday. and again , west will be best for again, west will be best for tbose— again, west will be best for those temperatures getting into the those temperatures getting into

tbe—btt— those temperatures getting into tbe—ntt zes- those temperatures getting into the—mid 20s. but. those temperatures getting into the mid 20s. but the the low, maybe mid 20s. but the buntttty— the low, maybe mid 20s. but the buntttty vtt— the low, maybe mid 20s. but the humidity will-to— the low, maybe mid 20s. but the humidity will to rise in humidity will start to rise in tbe— humidity will start to rise in the south—west— humidity will start to rise in the south—west with the threat of the south—west with the threat ot-sbovers— the south—west with the threat of showers coming along of those showers coming along ant— of those showers coming along and increasing— of those showers coming along and increasing risk of seeing tbose— and increasing risk of seeing- those—northwards those showers spread northwards turtng— those showers spread northwards turtng tbe— those showers spread northwards during the weekend, it's going to-btt— during the weekend, it's going to-bit hotter. - during the weekend, it's going to bit hotter. humidity to turn a bit hotter. humidity vtt— to turn a bit hotter. humidity vttt rtse— to turn a bit hotter. humidity vttt an— to turn a bit hotter. humidity will rise. an increasing chance of will rise. an increasing chance ot some— will rise. an increasing chance of some showers— will rise. an increasing chance of some showers and thunderstorms as .

hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight . the prime nation tonight. the prime minister jets off to washington in the midst of unfriendly opinion polls to hobnob with president biden while prime ministers head the world stage when their polling bad . when their polling is bad. rather than on with the rather than getting on with the job running britain, why on job of running britain, why on earth he go to see earth would he go to see president because president biden anyway? because he britain. the