thurrock croydon slough. is of thurrock croydon slough. is it going to be yours next? what's going on? who's to blame and who, crucially, should pay ? and who, crucially, should pay? and another day. and another dog attack . goodness me. i have to attack. goodness me. i have to say it feels now these are more and more frequent . this is and more frequent. this is horrendous footage that we're seeing again today. what do you think to response, though? are we serious enough in trying to tackle dangerous dogs or some would say we perhaps now in mode of overkill ? i mention, of of overkill? i mention, of course, the case of millions. and marshall, i'm sure some of you will be familiar with that. and in finland, if you get caught speeding, guess what you're fine. is linked to your income . a whopping ,121,000. income. a whopping ,121,000. a fine issued to a guy because he happened to have a bob or two in the bank. is that fair? should we follow suit or is it, quite frankly, bonkers? will have all of that to come and more. but first, let's get the . news good

first, let's get the. news good evening. i'm first, let's get the. news good evening . i'm ray addison in the evening. i'm ray addison in the and— evening. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. and our— q i'm ray addison in the newsroom. and our top story for children,— newsroom. and our top story for children, including— newsroom. and our top story for children, including a british national— children, including a british national and— children, including a british national and two adults have been— national and two adults have been injured— national and two adults have been injured in— national and two adults have been injured in a— national and two adults have been injured in a knife attack in the— been injured in a knife attack in the french— been injured in a knife attack in the french alps. now, it's understood— in the french alps. now, it's understood that— in the french alps. now, it's understood that the knifeman is a swan— understood that the knifeman is a syrian national— understood that the knifeman is a syrian national who has refugee— a syrian national who has refugee status— a syrian national who has refugee status in sweden . he refugee status in sweden. he entered— refugee status in sweden. he entered france _ refugee status in sweden. he entered france legally and mm— entered france legally and wasn't previously known to security— wasn't previously known to security agencies. a shocking footage— security agencies. a shocking footage hee— security agencies. a shocking footage has emerged online of the se— footage has emerged online of the st year— footage has emerged online of the 31 year old— footage has emerged online of the 31 year old carrying out thet— the 31 year old carrying out that attack— the 31 year old carrying out that attack in— the 31 year old carrying out that attack in a— the 31 year old carrying out that attack in a playground in the etptne— that attack in a playground in the alpine town— that attack in a playground in the alpine town of annecy . the alpine town of annecy. tettee— the alpine town of annecy. tettee ety— the alpine town of annecy. police say he— the alpine town of annecy. police say he was shot in the tees— police say he was shot in the tege wtttet— police say he was shot in the legs whilst being arrested and has etnee— legs whilst being arrested and has since been— legs whilst being arrested and has since been taken to teepttet.— has since been taken to hospital. french former professional- hospital. french former professional footballer anthony le professional footballer anthony te tettee— professional footballer anthony le tallec was— professional footballer anthony le tallec was at— professional footballer anthony le tallec was at the scene . he le tallec was at the scene. he teeetttet— le tallec was at the scene. he described what— le tallec was at the scene. he described what he— le tallec was at the scene. he described what he saw . , described what he saw. kyiv i tte— described what he saw. kyiv i the guy— described what he saw. kyiv i saw the guy who _ described what he saw. kyiv i saw the guy who indeed is coming in front of me. he's on the geese. — in front of me. he's on the erase. the— in front of me. he's on the grass. the cops— in front of me. he's on the grass. the cops are- " he's on the grass. the cops are right behind eteut— grass. the cops are right behind about t— grass. the cops are right behind about 5 et— grass. the cops are right behind about 5 or 10m— grass. the cops are right behind about 5 or 10m behind him and who— about 5 or 10m behind him and who cant— about 5 or 10m behind him and who can't catch— about 5 or 10m behind him and who can't catch up— about 5 or 10m behind him and who can't catch up with him. so i who can't catch up with him. so . mee— who can't catch up with him. so . eut— who can't catch up with him. so . out et— who can't catch up with him. so i move out of the— who can't catch up with him. so i move out of the way a little ent— i move out of the way a little and ._ i move out of the way a little and . see— i move out of the way a little and i see him— i move out of the way a little and i see him going straight tewerte— and i see him going straight towards men— and i see him going straight towards men and women and he

etteete— towards men and women and he etteete, te— towards men and women and he attacks, he attacks— towards men and women and he attacks, he attacks the old guy. he state— attacks, he attacks the old guy. he etete ttm — attacks, he attacks the old guy. he stabs him once— attacks, he attacks the old guy. he stabs him once the cops are tettnt— he stabs him once the cops are tettnt mm,— he stabs him once the cops are behind him, can't— he stabs him once the cops are behind him, can't catch up with mm.— behind him, can't catch up with em ant— behind him, can't catch up with em ant ._ behind him, can't catch up with him. and | tell— behind him, can't catch up with him. and i tell them, i tell the cope,— him. and i tell them, i tell the cops, tutt— him. and i tell them, i tell the cops, just shoot— him. and i tell them, i tell the cops, just shoot him, kill him. tee— cops, just shoot him, kill him. te-e etetttne— cops, just shoot him, kill him. he's stabbing everybody. so he etteete— he's stabbing everybody. so he etteete — he's stabbing everybody. so he attacks once ,_ he's stabbing everybody. so he attacks once , twice, and then attacks once, twice, and then they— attacks once, twice, and then they start— attacks once, twice, and then they start shooting . so they they start shooting. so they shoot— they start shooting. so they shoot h— they start shooting. so they shoot in front— they start shooting. so they shoot in front of— they start shooting. so they shoot in front of me . so here's shoot in front of me. so here's whet— shoot in front of me. so here's what we— shoot in front of me. so here's what we thew— shoot in front of me. so here's what we know about the five vtethhe. — what we know about the five victims. four— what we know about the five victims. four are- what we know about the five victims. . ctitzi; ti t: ”cl" victims. four are children. they're all aged between 22 months and three years old. two of the toddlers and the adult are in a life threatening condition . an witnesses saying condition. an witnesses saying that at least one of the children was in a pram at the time of the attack . prime time of the attack. prime minister rishi sunak and the french president have condemned the attacker as cowardly . the attacker as cowardly. foreign secretary james cleverly saying that the family of the injured british toddler will be offered support . we stand ready offered support. we stand ready to offered support. we stand ready te support— offered support. we stand ready to support the— offered support. we stand ready to support the french— to support the french authorities - to support the french authorities in whichever way we oteo — authorities in whichever way we can also wear that— authorities in whichever way we can also wear that one of the oeohte— can also wear that one of the peopte ,— can also wear that one of the peopte , one— can also wear that one of the peopte , ot— can also wear that one of the people , one of the children

people, one of the children injured— people, one of the children injured woe— people, one of the children injured was a— people, one of the children injured was a british national. we injured was a british national. we howe— injured was a british national. we have already— injured was a british national. we have already deployed british consular officials— we have already deployed british consular officials who are trowetthe— consular officials who are travelling to _ consular officials who are travelling to the area to make theheetwee— travelling to the area to make themselves available to support themselves available to support the tenth— themselves available to support the tenth .— themselves available to support the family . and— themselves available to support the family . and of course, we the family. and of course, we stand— the family. and of course, we stand h— the family. and of course, we stand in strong— the family. and of course, we stand in strong solidarity with the peopte— stand in strong solidarity with the peopte ot— stand in strong solidarity with the people of france at this tewthte— the people of france at this terrible time— the people of france at this terrible time ._ the people of france at this terrible time . president biden terrible time. president biden hoe— terrible time. president biden has tott— terrible time. president biden has told rishi— terrible time. president biden has told rishi sunak that the eoeotot— has told rishi sunak that the special relationship between the uk special relationship between the tth ont— special relationship between the uk the the— special relationship between the uk the the us— special relationship between the uk and the us is— special relationship between the uk and the us is in quote, real good— uk and the us is in quote, real good shape — uk and the us is in quote, real good shape. during- uk and the us is in quote, real good shape. t g uk and the us is in quote, real good shape. j . g good shape. during talks at the white house meeting in the oval office, rishi sunak mentioned the strength of that partnership and he promised to continue to put our values front and centre . the two leaders also discussed how they've stood together in support of ukraine and the potential dangers of new technologies. we face a war on the european continent and as we've done before, the us and the uk have stood together to support ukraine and stand up for the values of democracy and freedom and make sure that they prevail , as i freedom and make sure that they prevail, as i know we will. but

also i completely agree- also i completely agree with whet— also i completely agree with what wow— also i completely agree with what you said.— also i completely agree with what you said. our economies are eeehe— what you said. our economies are eeehg perhaps— what you said. our economies are seeing perhaps the— what you said. our economies are seeing perhaps the biggest transformation— seeing perhaps the biggest transformation since the industrial— transformation since the industrial revolution as new technologies— industrial revolution as new technologies provide incredible oppohwntttee— technologies provide incredible opportunities, but also give our oweteohee— opportunities, but also give our adversaries more— opportunities, but also give our adversaries more tools for harm. hut— adversaries more tools for harm. hot one— adversaries more tools for harm. hut thhg— adversaries more tools for harm. hut thhe t— adversaries more tools for harm. but one thing i know won't change.— but one thing i know won't change th— but one thing i know won't change. i'm confident, won't change,— change. i'm confident, won't changet te— change. i'm confident, won't change he the— change. i'm confident, won't change, is the strength of our potthetehth,— change, is the strength of our partnership, our— change, is the strength of our partnership, our friendship . partnership, our friendship. tteht— partnership, our friendship. rishi sunak— partnership, our friendship. rishi sunak their now senior metho— rishi sunak their now senior hettee howe— rishi sunak their now senior medics have warned that the nhs is medics have warned that the nhs te ettwggthg— medics have warned that the nhs te ettwggthg to— medics have warned that the nhs is struggling to provide safe the— is struggling to provide safe and effective _ is struggling to provide safe and effective care for all cancer patients . j cancer patients. the royal college of radiologists warns that government action is now critical to alleviate chronic staff shortages, with 15% of clinical oncologist positions still vacant. they say this is leading to longer waiting times for appointments and treatment , for appointments and treatment, with half of all units reporting frequent delays for radiotherapy and chemotherapy. health secretary steve barclay says the government is investing more . government is investing more. the report was focussed on the heotth— the report was focussed on the health systems— the report was focussed on the health systems across the uk, so

teeoghtehe— health systems across the uk, so teeoghtehg the— health systems across the uk, so recognising the pressures in wotee— recognising the pressures in wotee ont— recognising the pressures in wales and scotland as well , wales and scotland as well, there— wales and scotland as well, there hoe— wales and scotland as well, there has been— wales and scotland as well, there has been a— wales and scotland as well, there has been a significant h— there has been a significant increase in demand and that's why— increase in demand and that's why were— increase in demand and that's why we're investing more. we're hweethe— why we're investing more. we're hweethg h— why we're investing more. we're investing in 160— why we're investing more. we're investing in 160 community ttoehoette— investing in 160 community diagnostic centres, we're hweethe— diagnostic centres, we're hweethg h— diagnostic centres, we're investing in the surgical hubs p.og..mme,_ investing in the surgical hubs p.og..mme, o— investing in the surgical hubs programme, a further 43 new or expanded— programme, a further 43 new or expanded surgical— programme, a further 43 new or expanded surgical hubs due this wett— expanded surgical hubs due this year .— expanded surgical hubs due this year . aho— expanded surgical hubs due this year . aht wee— expanded surgical hubs due this year . and we're also investing year. and we're also investing in year. and we're also investing th the— year. and we're also investing in the workforce— year. and we're also investing in the workforce and that's why bringing— in the workforce and that's why we're bringing forward a long term— we're bringing forward a long term workforce— we're bringing forward a long term workforce plan . ukraine's term workforce plan. ukraine's httttow— term workforce plan. ukraine's military claims— term workforce plan. ukraine's military claims that flooding in the thereon— military claims that flooding in the kherson region after the destruction _ the kherson region after the destruction of— the kherson region after the destruction of the kakhovka dam is destruction of the kakhovka dam te torche— destruction of the kakhovka dam is forcing russian— destruction of the kakhovka dam is forcing russian troops to retreat— is forcing russian troops to retreat tw— is forcing russian troops to retreat to we— is forcing russian troops to retreat by up to— is forcing russian troops to retreat by up to 15km. president— retreat by up to 15km. president vladimir- retreat by up to 15km. president vladimir zelenskyy has been visiting the area where hundreds of thousands of people have been left stranded and without drinking water. there's concern too that the water level at a reservoir near the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is running dangerously low now, although it's currently stable . although it's currently stable. ukrainian mp kira rudik has told gb news there are potentially catastrophic consequence losses

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eote. — of the places that they must be eote. sate, — of the places that they must be safe. safe, that— of the places that they must be safe. safe, that is.— of the places that they must be safe. safe, that is. it's a safe haven— safe. safe, that is. it's a safe haven te— safe. safe, that is. it's a safe haven to wow— safe. safe, that is. it's a safe haven is your child's playground . the— haven is your child's playground . the wew— haven is your child's playground . the wetw, wew— haven is your child's playground . the very, very last thing you wowe— . the very, very last thing you wowtt ewe— . the very, very last thing you would ever expect— . the very, very last thing you would ever expect to happen is thet— would ever expect to happen is that e— would ever expect to happen is that e moh— would ever expect to happen is that a man comes— would ever expect to happen is that a man comes over and stabs wow— that a man comes over and stabs wow ehttt— that a man comes over and stabs wow ehttt h— that a man comes over and stabs your child in front— that a man comes over and stabs your child in front of you in hoot— your child in front of you in broad daylight.— your child in front of you in broad daylight. one of the ohtttteh— broad daylight. one of the ohtttteh t— broad daylight. one of the children i refer— broad daylight. one of the children i refer to, even one in a children i refer to, even one in o prom.— children i refer to, even one in o pram- tt— children i refer to, even one in a pram. it sickens— children i refer to, even one in a pram. it sickens me. my gooeehwhhe— a pram. it sickens me. my goosebumps are up as we speak, but tot— goosebumps are up as we speak, hot to ow— goosebumps are up as we speak, hot to t— goosebumps are up as we speak, but for now i want— goosebumps are up as we speak, but for now i want to get the oheotwte — but for now i want to get the absolute latest— but for now i want to get the absolute latest on this horrific stow.— absolute latest on this horrific etotw. joining— absolute latest on this horrific etotw. joining he— absolute latest on this horrific story. joining me is mark wyatt gb story. joining me is mark wyatt eh newe— story. joining me is mark wyatt eh news home— story. joining me is mark wyatt gb news home and security etttot— gb news home and security editor. mark,— gb news home and security editor. mark, good evening. what can editor. mark, good evening. what wow— editor. mark, good evening. what wow teth— editor. mark, good evening. what wow tett we— editor. mark, good evening. what can you tell us by— editor. mark, good evening. what can you tell us by this, michelle?— can you tell us by this, michelle? we've just had an wette— michelle? we've just had an wtote ttoh — michelle? we've just had an update from the— michelle? we've just had an update from the regional woeeewtot— update from the regional prosecutor in— update from the regional prosecutor in anti this town in the— prosecutor in anti this town in the twee— prosecutor in anti this town in the france alpine— prosecutor in anti this town in the france alpine region in who has sett— the france alpine region in who has eott thet— the france alpine region in who has said that there is as yet no hottwottoh— has said that there is as yet no motivation that— has said that there is as yet no motivation that it— has said that there is as yet no motivation that it points to tewoheh— motivation that it points to tewoheh . — motivation that it points to terrorism . , ti; . motivation that it points to terrorism. g terrorism. however, given the nature of this attack, the terrorist awesome prosecutor is overseeing the current investigation. the images there you can see were taken just moments after this frenzied

knife attack in a playground . knife attack in a playground. and as horrific as the event is, it's chilling to think when you see the images there, there's a wall, there's a gate. you have to go out of your way to go into that gate, to go into the playground . and so it's clear playground. and so it's clear that this individual didn't just happen across these children in the middle of an attack . happen across these children in the middle of an attack. he had gone out of his way to go into that playground on the victims. we've had some more information there are six people in total who were stabbed, two adults and four very young children . now, four very young children. now, the four young children were told that one is a british child and the other is dutch. and the remaining two are both french age, the ages range from 22 months to of the children are aged two and the final victim is aged two and the final victim is aged just three years old. we're

told that all four of those children have been severely injured and at this time are still critically ill off the two adults, a 78 year old man is critically ill, having been stabbed. the other adult that was stabbed is less seriously injured. as far as the alleged attacker is concerned. well, confirmation that he is an asylum seeker or refugee granted asylum seeker or refugee granted asylum a syrian national who who went to live in sweden some ten years ago and was granted asylum in recent months. now, according to the french regional prosecutor, he moved from sweden to france. the back end of last year after separating from his wife , a swedish national who wife, a swedish national who remains, we're told, back in

sweden with their three year old daughter . so confirmation he sweden with their three year old daughter. so confirmation he has a three year old daughter , ages a three year old daughter, ages basically with one of the victims and in fact, older than three of his other alleged victims in this attack this morning . mark. right. thank you morning. mark. right. thank you wew— morning. mark. right. thank you wew hwoh— morning. mark. right. thank you wew hweh tot— morning. mark. right. thank you very much for that— g mark. right. thank you very much for that latest update. — very much for that latest update we— very much for that latest update. we will bring you any updates— update. we will bring you any wtotee oh— update. we will bring you any updates on this— update. we will bring you any updates on this story whenever ont— updates on this story whenever the to— updates on this story whenever and as soon as— updates on this story whenever and as soon as we— updates on this story whenever and as soon as we get them . i and as soon as we get them. i howe— and as soon as we get them. i have to— and as soon as we get them. i have to say— and as soon as we get them. i have to sow .— and as soon as we get them. i have to say , david, doing this have to say, david, doing this job,— have to say, david, doing this hot, ht— have to say, david, doing this hot, tt te— have to say, david, doing this hot, tt te hw— have to say, david, doing this hot, tt te hw job— have to say, david, doing this job, it is my job to make sure thet— job, it is my job to make sure that t— job, it is my job to make sure that i understand— job, it is my job to make sure that i understand these stories. so that i understand these stories. so t— that i understand these stories. so t hot— that i understand these stories. so t hot the— that i understand these stories. so i had the grave— that i understand these stories. so i had the grave misfortune to— so i had the grave misfortune to howe— so i had the grave misfortune soon to have to— so i had the grave misfortune soon to have to sit and watch the— soon to have to sit and watch the who— soon to have to sit and watch the wteo .— soon to have to sit and watch this video . and— soon to have to sit and watch this video . and i— soon to have to sit and watch this video . and i deliberately this video. and i deliberately ttth-t— this video. and i deliberately ttth-t shore— this video. and i deliberately didn't share it.— this video. and i deliberately didn't share it. i— this video. and i deliberately didn't share it. i will not shore— didn't share it. i will not share that— didn't share it. i will not share that stuff . it's i can't share that stuff. it's i can't tett— share that stuff. it's i can't even tell you— share that stuff. it's i can't even tell you until the day i the.— even tell you until the day i the. t— even tell you until the day i the. t wttt— even tell you until the day i die. i will never— even tell you until the day i die. i will never forget that thoee— die. i will never forget that thoee ot— die. i will never forget that thoee ot o— die. i will never forget that image of a man- die. i will never forget that image of a man deliberately. die. i will never forget that image of a man deliberately . and image of a man deliberately. and you image of a man deliberately. and wow wow— image of a man deliberately. and wow thow ht— image of a man deliberately. and wow thow, tt wow— image of a man deliberately. and you know, if you haven't seen the— you know, if you haven't seen the who— you know, if you haven't seen the wteo, t— you know, if you haven't seen this video, i definitely recommend- this video, i definitely recommend you do not watch it. i howe— recommend you do not watch it. i have to.— recommend you do not watch it. i have to. he— recommend you do not watch it. i have to. he goes— recommend you do not watch it. i have to. he goes into this is a tetthetote— have to. he goes into this is a tetthetote .— have to. he goes into this is a deliberate , targeted attack. he deliberate, targeted attack. he goes— deliberate, targeted attack. he goes hto— deliberate, targeted attack. he eoee hto o— deliberate, targeted attack. he goes into a playground

deliberately. - goes into a playground deliberately. there's a lady, for deliberately. there's a lady, to exempte— deliberately. there's a lady, for example, with a pram. she's she— for example, with a pram. she's corner. she can't— for example, with a pram. she's corner. she can't go anywhere. there-e— corner. she can't go anywhere. there-e o— corner. she can't go anywhere. there's a wall— corner. she can't go anywhere. there's a wall and— corner. she can't go anywhere. there's a wall and it's just a eoewoh — there's a wall and it's just a eoewoh he— there's a wall and it's just a casual. he kind— there's a wall and it's just a casual. he kind of just kind of wohete— casual. he kind of just kind of wanders over— casual. he kind of just kind of wanders over to— casual. he kind of just kind of wanders over to her. and this aho— wanders over to her. and this screams. and i— wanders over to her. and this screams. and i was struck by so how— screams. and i was struck by so many different— screams. and i was struck by so many different things . i was many different things. i was ettwet— many different things. i was ettwet hw— many different things. i was struck by obviously the acts and how— struck by obviously the acts and how howttte— struck by obviously the acts and how horrific that— struck by obviously the acts and how horrific that was. i was ettwet— how horrific that was. i was ettwet hw— how horrific that was. i was struck by how— how horrific that was. i was struck by how few people seemed to heth. — struck by how few people seemed to heth. twewohe— struck by how few people seemed to help. everyone seemed to be tohtohtw— to help. everyone seemed to be randomly filming— to help. everyone seemed to be randomly filming this thing. it's randomly filming this thing. tt-e ott— randomly filming this thing. it's all over— randomly filming this thing. it's all over social media. um, it's all over social media. um, ttwet— it's all over social media. um, ttwet t— it's all over social media. um, tiwet t howe— it's all over social media. um, ijust i have no— it's all over social media. um, i just i have no words, eeheetottw— i just i have no words, especially as- i just i have no words, especially as a parent, to a ttttte— especially as a parent, to a ttttte one— especially as a parent, to a little one. i— especially as a parent, to a little one. i take- especially as a parent, to a little one. i take my child to the— little one. i take my child to the poth— little one. i take my child to the port, to— little one. i take my child to the park, as we— little one. i take my child to the park, as we all do, and it twet— the park, as we all do, and it twet tt-e— the park, as we all do, and it wet to htt— the park, as we all do, and it just it's hit me— the park, as we all do, and it just it's hit me really, really how. — just it's hit me really, really how. tt— just it's hit me really, really hard. it makes— just it's hit me really, really hard. it makes me feel sick . hard. it makes me feel sick. the— hard. it makes me feel sick. the hto— hard. it makes me feel sick. like it's absolutely- hard. it makes me feel sick. like it's absolutely horrific . like it's absolutely horrific. when i heard about this, i couldn't believe it. it's almost beyond belief that, you know, as a human being, how can beyond belief that, you know, as a human being , how can another a human being, how can another human being do this to some children? innocent children, whatever you think ? i mean, how whatever you think? i mean, how could anyone do this to anyone? and that's what i'm thinking about this today. and people all obviously were in shock. i imagine that this was going on

in a lovely village in the alps where nothing like this has probably ever happened before. and people go on holiday. they go there to get away from the city. it's lovely. it's got a huge lake. i've been there. it's heowtttwt — huge lake. i've been there. it's beautiful. very,— huge lake. i've been there. it's beautiful. very, very— gt: i've been there. it's beautiful. very, very peaceful. hehee— beautiful. very, very peaceful. hehee thew— beautiful. very, very peaceful. hence they were— beautiful. very, very peaceful. hence they were lots of tttteteht— hence they were lots of different nationalities of ehtttteh— different nationalities of children at— different nationalities of children at that park at the the. — children at that park at the the. wh— children at that park at the time. um,-your- children at that park at the- time. um,-your thoughts? time. um, kevin, your thoughts? wett— time. um, kevin, your thoughts? wett. wow— time. um, kevin, your thoughts? wett wow wow— time. um, kevin, your thoughts? wett wow thew .— time. um, kevin, your thoughts? well, you know , i— time. um, kevin, your thoughts? well, you know , i echo- time. um, kevin, your thoughts? well, you know, i echo what you both said . i wish well, you know, i echo what you both said. i wish i well, you know, i echo what you both said . i wish i hadn't both said. i wish i hadn't watched the clips online as well. actually profound evil , well. actually profound evil, speechless , really. and i just i speechless, really. and i just i was speechless, really. and i just i ttwhe— speechless, really. and i just i twhg to— speechless, really. and i just i was trying to figure— speechless, really. and i just i was trying to figure out- i ”65th and ijust i was trying to figure out because it's was trying to figure out because he ott— was trying to figure out because he at wett— was trying to figure out because it's all well and— was trying to figure out because it's all well and good to sit here,— it's all well and good to sit here, ten-t— it's all well and good to sit here, isn't it,— it's all well and good to sit here, isn't it, on— it's all well and good to sit here, isn't it, on a tv set and go,— here, isn't it, on a tv set and go, eh— here, isn't it, on a tv set and go, oh wett— here, isn't it, on a tv set and go, oh, wett h— here, isn't it, on a tv set and go, oh, well, if i— here, isn't it, on a tv set and go, oh, well, if i was there, i wowtt— go, oh, well, if i was there, i wowtt howe— go, oh, well, if i was there, i would have done— go, oh, well, if i was there, i would have done this and i would howe— would have done this and i would have tone— would have done this and i would have done that. _ would have done this and i would have done that. but— would have done this and i would have done that. but i can't help but have done that. but i can't help hwt he— have done that. but i can't help hwt he ettwet— have done that. but i can't help but be struck by— have done that. but i can't help but be struck by that because i watched— but be struck by that because i wotehet ht— but be struck by that because i watched it and— but be struck by that because i watched it and i— but be struck by that because i watched it and i was screaming. i watched it and i was screaming. t wee— watched it and i was screaming. tee eeet-teehe— watched it and i was screaming. i was screaming. i— watched it and i was screaming. i was screaming. i was crying. i eohteehe— i was screaming. i was crying. i was screaming to— i was screaming. i was crying. i was screaming to this lady, run, run, run, because— was screaming to this lady, run, run, run, because he doesn't twet— run, run, because he doesn't twet etteot— run, run, because he doesn't just attack this— run, run, because he doesn't just attack this little one in the— just attack this little one in the pushchair.— just attack this little one in the pushchair. once goes back the pushchair. once he goes back when— the pushchair. once he goes back eeeh—ttttte- the pushchair. once he goes back again—little one. again and attacks his little one in again and attacks his little one h-hwehoheh— again and attacks his little one in-pushchair-and-

in the pushchair again and i twet— in the pushchair again and i twet there-e— in the pushchair again and i just there's something in me thet— just there's something in me thetlthte— just there's something in me thatlthis was— just there's something in me that this was going on and that if this was going on and he— that if this was going on and he eeew— that if this was going on and he eeew to— that if this was going on and we eeew to eew— that if this was going on and it's easy to say in— that if this was going on and it's easy to say in this kind of ehwheht— it's easy to say in this kind of environment because you're not there— environment because you're not there ent— environment because you're not there eht wow— environment because you're not there and you don't know, i eeh-t— there and you don't know, i can't fathom— there and you don't know, i can't fathom why so many people wttheee— can't fathom why so many people wttheee thte. — can't fathom why so many people witness this. people _ can't fathom why so many people witness this. people were just jogging— witness this. people were just jogging by- _ witness this. people were just jogging by- yeah-- witness this. people were just jogging by. / witness this. people were just jogging by. “43?" " stifti; jogging by. yeah. i mean, there is a i mean, apart from feeling today that emptiness that i've felt at times after, for example, you know, mass shootings in the states or other horrendous . right. i horrendous crimes. right. i did think about videoing of think about the videoing of these incidents and the fact that could have looked that you or i could have looked three after something three hours after something happenedin three hours after something happened in france as something terrible . and the aspect that terrible. and the aspect that people sometimes don't intervene . and, you know, you think back to the london bridge attacks here where some brits and ex—offender, was one of ex—offender, in fact, was one of those people awarded by the then queen for intervening to stop millwall. guy yeah, yeah , yeah. millwall. guy yeah, yeah, yeah. so people do, you know, you have to have been in that response where you've got the adrenaline and you, you know, to decide. but i would say on the positive side, there two guys side, there was two french guys today in. today who did intervene in. yeah. and just in case you're

hot— yeah. and just in case you're not tehtttet— yeah. and just in case you're not familiar with— “43?" and just in case you're not familiar with footage not familiar with this footage thet— not familiar with this footage thet-heeh— not familiar with this footage that been playing that i've just been playing there,— that i've just been playing therelwttt— that i've just been playing there,iwill note- that i've just been playing there, will note the one that there, i will note the one that the — there, i will note the one that the playing— there, i will note the one that the htewhg oh— there, i will note the one that i'm playing on the screen. it's hot— i'm playing on the screen. it's not he— i'm playing on the screen. it's not it's-actual- i'm playing on the screen. it's not it's actual attack. not it's not the actual attack. twet— not it's not the actual attack. twetlwhet— not it's not the actual attack. just-what you're - not it's not the actual attack. just what you're seeing is just so what you're seeing is wow-e— just so what you're seeing is wowe-thet- just so what you're seeing is wow-te-thet eww- just so what you're seeing is you're that guy. so this you're seeing that guy. so this now-screen now- you're seeing that guy. so this now-screen now is. you're seeing that guy. so this now screen now is this now on your screen now is this is now on your screen now is this te-the— now on your screen now is this te-the-hee— now on your screen now is this is-the-has done- now on your screen now is this is the has done the is after the guy has done the eeeewtt— is after the guy has done the eeeewtt. the— is after the guy has done the assault. the guy— is after the guy has done the assault. the guy the attacker is the-the— assault. the guy the attacker is the _the front.— assault. the guy the attacker is the _the front. and- assault. the guy the attacker is the the front. and this the one in the front. and this is the one in the front. and this te-so— the one in the front. and this te-so-te— the one in the front. and this te-so-te hhh- the one in the front. and this is-so-is him. and. the one in the front. and this. is-so-is him. and that is him. so this is him. and that wett— is him. so this is him. and that wett thet— is him. so this is him. and that wall that-behind- is him. so this is him. and that wall that behind that wall that you see behind that the— wall that you see behind that the ot— wall that you see behind that kind of height— wall that you see behind that kind of height of— wall that you see behind that kind of height of that wall, the ttttte— kind of height of that wall, the ttttte ohe— kind of height of that wall, the little one, that's— kind of height of that wall, the little one, that's what he jumped— little one, that's what he twhpet-to- little one, that's what he twhhet-to get- little one, that's what he jumped to get into that jumped over to get into that hert- — jumped over to get into that pett- ahe— jumped over to get into that park. and what— jumped over to get into that park. and what you're seeing how—teet- now, the guy at the back with the two— now, the guy at the back with the two backpacks is put one on the two backpacks is put one on the-thet— the two backpacks is put one on the-thet eww— the two backpacks is put one on the-that guy with- the two backpacks is put one on the that guy with the the floor. that guy with the heetpeote— the floor. that guy with the backpacks trying to chase backpacks he was trying to chase off backpacks he was trying to chase ott-eoete — backpacks he was trying to chase off-scare .fella. - backpacks he was trying to chase off-scare-fella. now- off and scare that fella. now 50,— off and scare that fella. now so, wow— off and scare that fella. now so, wow wow,— off and scare that fella. now so, you know, obviously no mothe— so, you know, obviously no motive - been - so, you know, obviously no motive been established and motive has been established and there— motive has been established and there-pewte— motive has been established and there-heohte, ot- there are many people, of course, who've just been tetthe— course, who've just been - tetthe—heteoh talking. then this this person is talking. then this this person te—hte- talking. then this this person te—hte wttel talking. then this this person is_his wife. if| is separated from his wife. if hee— is separated from his wife. if he-e got— is separated from his wife. if he-e eot e— is separated from his wife. if he's got a child— is separated from his wife. if he's got a child as well, his own-goodness- he's got a child as well, his own goodness knows, you own age, goodness knows, you know,— own age, goodness knows, you know whet-e— own age, goodness knows, you know, what's going on. and i'm ewe-wit— know, what's going on. and i'm sure _will emerge. - know, what's going on. and i'm sure will emerge. but, sure the facts will emerge. but, you— sure the facts will emerge. but, you-.— sure the facts will emerge. but, wow-lwowtt— sure the facts will emerge. but, you-,.would.remissl sure the facts will emerge. but,i you-,.would.remiss of you know, it would be remiss of me you know, it would be remiss of he to— you know, it would be remiss of he to hot— you know, it would be remiss of me to not discuss— you know, it would be remiss of me to not discuss the fact that the— me to not discuss the fact that thte te— me to not discuss the fact that this is someone— me to not discuss the fact that this is someone who has been confirmed— this is someone who has been oohttwhet-ee— this is someone who has been confirmed as someone that confirmed now as someone that eehe-swhe— confirmed now as someone that eehe-swhe ee— confirmed now as someone that came syria was accepted as came from syria was accepted as a came from syria was accepted as e tetweee— came from syria was accepted as e tetweee .— came from syria was accepted as e refugee , wow— came from syria was accepted as a refugee , you know, and there

a refugee, you know, and there hee— a refugee, you know, and there hee heeh— a refugee, you know, and there hee heeh e— a refugee, you know, and there has been a conversation i've eettehtw— has been a conversation i've certainly noticed— has been a conversation i've certainly noticed it been part of certainly noticed it been part ot ht— certainly noticed it been part ot tt ehowt— certainly noticed it been part of it about whether or not when heohte— of it about whether or not when peopte cohe— of it about whether or not when people come from _ of it about whether or not when people come from war zones, from eheotwte— people come from war zones, from eheotwte, wow-e— people come from war zones, from absolute, you're seeing you're expefiehci"9t_ absolute, you're seeing you're experiencinge t— absolute, you're seeing you're experiencing, i don't know your wow— experiencing, i don't know your wow the— experiencing, i don't know your wow the ot— experiencing, i don't know your your kind of how— experiencing, i don't know your your kind of how closely you are to the— your kind of how closely you are to thte heoote— your kind of how closely you are to this people then— your kind of how closely you are to this people then just come ent— to this people then just come end the— to this people then just come end the h— to this people then just come and live in a— to this people then just come and live in a completely tttteteht— and live in a completely different society. and it's ethoet— different society. and it's almost like _ different society. and it's almost like we kind of yeah , almost like we kind of yeah, wow-e— almost like we kind of yeah, you've come from this war torn hteee— you've come from this war tom the .— you've come from this war tom the , wow— you've come from this war tom the , wow wow— you've come from this war torn place , you know, don't really place, you know, don't really know— place, you know, don't really know wow— place, you know, don't really know your background, whatever in know your background, whatever th wow— know your background, whatever he wow cohe— know your background, whatever he wow eht— know your background, whatever in you come and there is a part of in you come and there is a part ot he— in you come and there is a part ot he thet— in you come and there is a part of me that wonders, are we expoethe— of me that wonders, are we exposing people to risk in this way? — exposing people to risk in this way? yew.— exposing people to risk in this way? “tit? " dint exposing people to risk in this way? “43?" did " way? yeah, absolutely. i mean, you can't expect people to suddenly cross the border into france or into the uk or germany and to take on the values of that society. if people are coming from a war torn country where there is a chaos and strife and they might be traumatised, they might have very, very different values and ideologies as well. from what we have in the west. so they will bnng have in the west. so they will bring that with them . and so bring that with them. and so there is a risk here and you

know, the risk we have to think aboutin know, the risk we have to think about in this country is what what is the criminal intent ? what is the criminal intent? what are the possibilities of these military age men coming across the channel in dinghies? we know that some of them get into criminality and this there has been something similar that's happened in this country . if you remember back, this poor seven year old girl that was beheaded in bolton that happened here is there is a pattern here. i mean, france has not been immune to this. there was the charlie hebdo attack. there was the bataclan theatre massacre. there was a priest who was beheaded by some migrants who had lived in france. i think they went before the courts last yearin they went before the courts last year in 2022, and got sentenced for that. so these are things that are happening and they wouldn't be happening if we were far more careful about who we let into our countries from these war torn areas . yeah, i these war torn areas. yeah, i have to say, i didn't- yeah, i have to say, i didn't know a ohttt— have to say, i didn't know a ehttt het— have to say, i didn't know a child had been— have to say, i didn't know a child had been beheaded, but i do child had been beheaded, but i to teeett— child had been beheaded, but i do recall there— child had been beheaded, but i

do recall there was a situation where— do recall there was a situation where e— do recall there was a situation where a child— do recall there was a situation where a child was— do recall there was a situation where a child was indeed etteetet. — where a child was indeed attacked. kevin what do you make to thete— attacked. kevin what do you make to thete wett— attacked. kevin what do you make to that? well, interest thing here? — to that? well, interest thing here? because— to that? well, interest thing here? because i- to that? well, interest thing here? i git here? because i i've got no problem. and i think it's unhealthy if people are not allowed to talk about what they're people committing these crimes come from. right. because people will then feel that their right to open conversation is curtailed. and also , i know that curtailed. and also, i know that a lot of brits, whatever their ethnic background are, are really nervous about white people coming from war torn conflicts who've seen savage things and coming to live here. but it's interesting for me, today was about evil . okay, we today was about evil. okay, we there's another story today been covered on this channel about the nurse up for murdering many babies. she's letby. yeah she's whtte— babies. she's letby. yeah she's white british— babies. she's letby. yeah she's white british as— babies. she's letby. yeah she's white british as as— she's letby. yeah she's white british as as far as i know— white british as as far as i know tt. — white british as as far as i know it. right.- white british as as far as i know it. ?3 white british as as far as i know it. j; e know it. right. it's evil, right? evil manifests itself in a whole number of backgrounds. let me tell you. i can't wait to be let me tell you. i can't wait to he ehte— let me tell you. i can't wait to he ehte to— let me tell you. i can't wait to he ehte to he— let me tell you. i can't wait to be able to be unleashed on that hehtewtet— be able to be unleashed on that particular topic. _ be able to be unleashed on that particular topic. indeed indeed. themetwe— particular topic. indeed indeed. premature baby.— particular topic. indeed indeed. premature baby. but for legal reasons. _haven't- premature baby. but for legal reasons. haven't been reasons. indeed, i haven't been ehte— reasons. indeed, i haven't been

ewe-hto— reasons. indeed, i haven't been able-into that- reasons. indeed, i haven't been able into that one. able to get into that one. so thet-e— able to get into that one. so thet-e coming— able to get into that one. so that's coming our— able to get into that one. so that's coming our way. - able to get into that one. so that's coming our way. and obviously today, you know, the coverage this channel coverage on this channel has been accurate. denies the been accurate. she denies the charges. but you see see charges. but you see you see when of me when you say it's remiss of me to the person is i to mention the person is what i as i understand it today, they were a legally approved refugee. right? they'd come to france via sweden with no , uh, no record to sweden with no, uh, no record to the security services, no history of mental health and so my point really is , and i must my point really is, and i must say, having lived in france, right, speaking the language, it was really interesting because straight out, the french prime minister the talk is instantly about the person's migrant status . so people are really status. so people are really worried about it. and i get that. but this is about evil and evil acts are being committed by white people, refugees, whatever . and it's okay for people to be worried also about people coming from war torn countries. i get it. yeah and you say it's okay for it. yeah and you say it's okay to peopte— it. yeah and you say it's okay to peopte to— it. yeah and you say it's okay for people to be— e “tit?" and you say it's okay for people to be worried. i wowtt— for people to be worried. i wowtt etewe— for people to be worried. i would argue actually that it's for people to be worried. i w0lokaygue actually that it's for people to be worried. i w0lokay becausetlly that it's for people to be worried. i w0lokay because ify that it's for people to be worried. i w0lokay because if youtt it's for people to be worried. i w0lokay because if you dare not okay because if you dare twe— not okay because if you dare twh eot— not okay because if you dare

turn around and— not okay because if you dare turn around and say, well, eetwettw— turn around and say, well, eetwettw .— turn around and say, well, eetwettw , ho— turn around and say, well, actually , no, i— turn around and say, well, actually , no, i don't want this actually, no, i don't want this ex—httttew— actually, no, i don't want this ex—military base— actually, no, i don't want this ex—military base full on my tooteteh— ex—military base full on my tooteteh ot— ex—military base full on my doorstep of these people that etoeehe— doorstep of these people that crossing channels and all the teet— crossing channels and all the eeet ot— crossing channels and all the eeet oh i,— crossing channels and all the eeet oh i, wow— crossing channels and all the rest of it, you say— crossing channels and all the rest of it, you say it's okay to be rest of it, you say it's okay to he wowtet— rest of it, you say it's okay to he wowtet. t— rest of it, you say it's okay to be worried. i would argue that eetwettw— be worried. i would argue that eetwettw, ht— be worried. i would argue that eetwettw, tt wow— be worried. i would argue that actually, if you dare to raise a concern about— actually, if you dare to raise a concern about that within a ehttt—wttt- concern about that within a split—will be. concern about that within a- split—will be called split second, you will be called a split second, you will be called e teetet— split second, you will be called e teetet. ah— split second, you will be called eteetet. ah t— split second, you will be called a racist. am i right— split second, you will be called a racist. am i right or am i wronge— a racist. am i right or am i wtohge th— a racist. am i right or am i wrong? i'm sure- a racist. am i right or am i wrong? i'm sure you'll tell me. owtet— wrong? i'm sure you'll tell me. owtot tweet.— wrong? i'm sure you'll tell me. quick break. when— wrong? i'm sure you'll tell me. quick break. when back, quick break. when i come back, i'll quick break. when i come back, t-tt-eohe— quick break. when i come back, t-tt-eohelwow- quick break. when i come back, i'll some your responses i'll have some of your responses to-t— i'll have some of your responses to-t eteo— i'll have some of your responses to-t eteo went- i'll have some of your responses to-i also want to- i'll have some of your responses to i also want to talk to that. but i also want to talk eowhotte— to that. but i also want to talk eowhottelwow— to that. but i also want to talk eowhettelwow .— to that. but i also want to talk councils you . where do you councils to you. where do you twee— councils to you. where do you live?_council- live? how is your council getthe— live? how is your council eetthe oh— live? how is your council getting on because today yet ehothet—toi getting on because today yeti another—to have another council seems to have gone— another council seems to have gone-th— another council seems to have . eohe-t-h-heeewee gone bust. i'm laughing because i gone bust. i'm laughing because ttwet— gone bust. i'm laughing because ttwet thht— gone bust. i'm laughing because ijust think it's— gone bust. i'm laughing because i just think it's absolutely twttetowe— i just think it's absolutely ludicrous because normally with theee— ludicrous because normally with theee thhee— ludicrous because normally with these things, guess who picks up these things, guess who picks up the-veeh— these things, guess who picks up the-veeh wow— these things, guess who picks up the-yeah, you the- these things, guess who picks up the yeah, you the council the bill? yeah, you the council tax the bill? yeah, you the council teo oewet. — the bill? yeah, you the council teo paver- t— the bill? yeah, you the council tax payer. i think— the bill? yeah, you the council tax payer. i think it's an eheotwte— tax payer. i think it's an absolute disgrace. should they be absolute disgrace. should they he ehte— absolute disgrace. should they he ehte to— absolute disgrace. should they be able to almost— absolute disgrace. should they be able to almost think that thew-te— be able to almost think that they're hht— be able to almost think that they're mini alan sugars be hweethe— they're mini alan sugars be investing money here, there investing your money here, there and investing your money here, there eht ewetwwhete— investing your money here, there and everywhere tell me . i'll and everywhere you tell me. i'll wow— and everywhere you tell me. i'll wow .— and everywhere you tell me. i'll wow . h— and everywhere you tell me. i'll wow . th two— and everywhere you tell me. i'll see you . in two earlier on gb see you. in two earlier on gb wewe— see you. in two earlier on gb wewe tetto— see you. in two earlier on gb news radio show— see you. in two earlier on gb news radio show we know that hee— news radio show we know that he-e e— news radio show we know that he-e e big— news radio show we know that he-e e big teh— news radio show we know that he's a big fan of— news radio show we know that he's a big fan of the states.

hee— he's a big fan of the states. he's obviously— he's a big fan of the states. he's obviously thinks- he's a big fan of the states. he's obviously thinks he- he's a big fan of the states. he's obviously thinks he can he say he's going to retire out there. i wouldn't be surprised if he loses the next he's looking for another one. he's not there to renew his- g he's not there to renew his green eeet,— not there to renew his green eeet, te— not there to renew his green eeet, te hee— not there to renew his green eeet, he he? te— not there to renew his green card, is he? is that what he's doing?— card, is he? is that what he's doing? te— card, is he? is that what he's doing? is that— card, is he? is that what he's doing? is that part of the plan thet— doing? is that part of the plan thet eowtt— doing? is that part of the plan that could be— doing? is that part of the plan that could be an— doing? is that part of the plan that could be an idea he wants to teettw— that could be an idea he wants to really lead. _ that could be an idea he wants to really lead. and- that could be an idea he wants to really lead. 't: gig that could be an idea he wants to really lead. ' t: gig to really lead. and i get the sense that he sees this. i watchdog as a sort of legacy see opportunity. my question is, is that going to resonate with voters here in the uk? is this going to make him cooler at home or as eamonn hinted, could it actually be helping him reinvent himself stateside and as and when if and when this all goes wrong , horribly wrong in the uk wrong, horribly wrong in the uk in the autumn of 2020, could it be both? i mean, could it help him with an election and could it help him? so my point is he's upped his game. it's very slick andifs upped his game. it's very slick and it's got to do something positive for him. well, i mean, theee-e— positive for him. well, i mean, theee-e theee— positive for him. well, i mean, there's there can— positive for him. well, i mean, there's there can be— positive for him. well, i mean, there's there can be no- e " well, i mean, there's there can be no doubt in heetteht— there's there can be no doubt in president biden's_ there's there can be no doubt in president biden's mind that in tteht— president biden's mind that in tteht-hee— president biden's mind that in tteht-hee e- president biden's mind that in rishi has a strong rishi sunak he has a strong ettw— rishi sunak he has a strong ettw-thow— rishi sunak he has a strong ally.-know, that- rishi sunak he has a strong ally. know, that is utterly ally. you know, that is utterly otee. — ally. you know, that is utterly clear. .everything- ally. you know, that is utterly clear. everything rishi clear. and everything that rishi sweet—thet-e- clear. and everything that rishi sunak—that's parti sunak has done. so that's part of

sunak has done. so that's parti ot—veeh. aht sunak has done. so that's part- ot—veeh. who wow of the game then. yeah. and you know,— of the game then. yeah. and you know thet-e— of the game then. yeah. and you know thet-e pett— of the game then. yeah. and you know, that's part of— of the game then. “tit?" and you know, that's part of the game. thet-e— know, that's part of the game. thet-e hee— know, that's part of the game. that's he's succeeding there. as far that's he's succeeding there. as tee ee— that's he's succeeding there. as far as ukraine— that's he's succeeding there. as far as ukraine is— that's he's succeeding there. as far as ukraine is concerned. you know,— far as ukraine is concerned. you thowltoee— far as ukraine is concerned. you thowltoee woww— far as ukraine is concerned. you know, does worry me, though, know, it does worry me, though, whet— know, it does worry me, though, whet-to— know, it does worry me, though, whet-to h— know, it does worry me, though, what-to in ukraine- what we're up to in ukraine heeewee— what we're up to in ukraine because-have- what we're up to in ukraine because have committed because we have committed a eeet— because we have committed a greet teet— because we have committed a greet teet ot— because we have committed a great deal of money. you know, et— great deal of money. you know, et the— great deal of money. you know, we've at the forefront of eetoe— we've at the forefront of sanctions and - we've at the forefront of sanctions and we've now got the eve— sanctions and we've now got the ewe ot— sanctions and we've now got the ewe ot tweete— sanctions and we've now got the eye of russia focussed on the whttet— eye of russia focussed on the united kingdom _ eye of russia focussed on the united kingdom and it's a just h— united kingdom and it's a just war in russia.— united kingdom and it's a just war in russia. shouldn't have hwete— war in russia. shouldn't have invade, added— war in russia. shouldn't have invade, added ukraine and so on. but invade, added ukraine and so on. hwt w-wee— invade, added ukraine and so on. hwt the— invade, added ukraine and so on. but we've kind of— invade, added ukraine and so on. but we've kind of written the uk has but we've kind of written the uk hee whtteh— but we've kind of written the uk hee whtteh e— but we've kind of written the uk has written a kind— but we've kind of written the uk has written a kind of blank cheet— has written a kind of blank check eewhe— has written a kind of blank check saying basically check saying we will basically do check saying we will basically to-zetehetww— check saying we will basically do zelenskyy says, which do what zelenskyy says, which wttthetetw— do what zelenskyy says, which ultimately-we'll- do what zelenskyy says, which ultimately we'll do what ultimately means we'll do what the us— ultimately means we'll do what the us eewe— ultimately means we'll do what the us says because the us will wttthetetw— the us says because the us will ultimately dictate _ the us says because the us will ultimately dictate what happens. and here— ultimately dictate what happens. and here we— ultimately dictate what happens. and here we are— ultimately dictate what happens. and here we are again in a cost of and here we are again in a cost ot ttwhe— and here we are again in a cost ot the ottete— and here we are again in a cost of living crisis, national debt, up of living crisis, national debt, wh texee— of living crisis, national debt, we teoee wew— of living crisis, national debt, we teoee wew wh— of living crisis, national debt, up taxes way up and pumping mohew— up taxes way up and pumping hohew hto— up taxes way up and pumping money into this— up taxes way up and pumping money into this fight. but ben, wtth— money into this fight. but ben, wtth ho— money into this fight. but ben, with no control,— money into this fight. but ben, with no control, with no oohttot— with no control, with no control, success story of text. — control, success story of brexit. wasn't- control, success story of brexit. wasn't it- control, success story of brexit. e e brexit. wasn't it that boris johnson was able to lead on on ukraine and now everyone's turning around saying we shouldn't be getting involved? the anglosphere has always led when— the anglosphere has always led whehleohee— the anglosphere has always led whenlcomes to— the anglosphere has always led when comes to global law and when it comes to global law and oteht — when it comes to global law and oteht lwow— when it comes to global law and order-lyou wte.— when it comes to global law and order..you like. it's— when it comes to global law and order. you like. it's always order. if you like. it's always teen— order. if you like. it's always been .americans- order. if you like. it's always been americans and the uk

been the americans and the uk thet— been the americans and the uk thet hw— been the americans and the uk thet hw gripe— been the americans and the uk thet hw gripe hee— been the americans and the uk that my gripe has got nothing to do that my gripe has got nothing to to wtth— that my gripe has got nothing to do with brexit. _ that my gripe has got nothing to do with brexit. it's— that my gripe has got nothing to do with brexit. it's to do with hehg— do with brexit. it's to do with hehg hehg— do with brexit. it's to do with hehg hehg et— do with brexit. it's to do with being being at the table, but not teettw— being being at the table, but not really having a seat, not hewhg— not really having a seat, not hewhg e— not really having a seat, not having a voice— not really having a seat, not having a voice .— not really having a seat, not having a voice . you know, when having a voice. you know, when we tteoowetet— having a voice. you know, when we discovered that— having a voice. you know, when we discovered that the us was hwtthg— we discovered that the us was gwtthg owt— we discovered that the us was pulling owt ot— we discovered that the us was pulling out of afghanistan, only when— pulling out of afghanistan, only when ow— pulling out of afghanistan, only when our troops— pulling out of afghanistan, only when our troops woke up one hothhg— when our troops woke up one hothhg eht— when our troops woke up one morning and the— when our troops woke up one morning and the us had gone, veeh— morning and the us had gone, veeh eht— morning and the us had gone, veeh end we— morning and the us had gone, yeah, and we had— morning and the us had gone, yeah, and we had the same issue in yeah, and we had the same issue he heg— yeah, and we had the same issue he heg. we-we— yeah, and we had the same issue in iraq. we've had— yeah, and we had the same issue in iraq. we've had the same teewe— in iraq. we've had the same wtth— in iraq. we've had the same issue with the— in iraq. we've had the same issue with the arab spring. you know— issue with the arab spring. you know-us— issue with the arab spring. you know, - us stirred - issue with the arab spring. you know, us stirred up know, the us stirred it all up eht— know, the us stirred it all up and-absented- know, the us stirred it all up and absented itself . and and then absented itself. and part— and then absented itself. and pert-eeew— and then absented itself. and part-reason we've- and then absented itself. and part reason we've got the part of the reason we've got the thhtgtettoh— part of the reason we've got the immigration problems we've got was immigration problems we've got wee—shtthg. was because of the arab spring. wht— was because of the arab spring. andljust_ was because of the arab spring. ahtltwet-thet— was because of the arab spring. and ijust-that you- was because of the arab spring. and just that you know, and i just fear that you know, -hooh — and i just fear that you know, we've - hook, line - and i just fear that you know,- we've - hook, line - sinker we've gone hook, line and sinker hto— we've gone hook, line and sinker hto whethe— we've gone hook, line and sinker into ukraine-there's- we've gone hook, line and sinker into ukraine there's no into ukraine and there's no eteet— into ukraine and there's no clear-mission- into ukraine and there's no clear-mission .- into ukraine and there's no clear mission . we into ukraine and there's no- clear-mission . we-caught clear war mission. we are caught inlproxv— clear war mission. we are caught inlproxv — clear war mission. we are caught inlproxv thte— clear war mission. we are caught inlproxy war. this is- clear war mission. we are caught in proxy war. this is a proxy in a proxy war. this is a proxy wht— in a proxy war. this is a proxy who we— in a proxy war. this is a proxy war. and we don't— in a proxy war. this is a proxy war. and we don't know how we're going— war. and we don't know how we're gohg to— war. and we don't know how we're gohg to get— war. and we don't know how we're gohg to get owt.— war. and we don't know how we're going to get out. and yet again, we're beholden— going to get out. and yet again, we're beholden to— going to get out. and yet again, we're beholden to someone else. in we're beholden to someone else. h-egeth— we're beholden to someone else. h-egeth-us- we're beholden to someone else. h-egeth-us .- in this case, again, the us, wow-e— in this case, again, the us, you're listening— in this case, again, the us, you're listening to gb news tetto— you're listening to gb news tetto .—

treatment? i'll let you answer that one. so many people, one of you here, graham, saying it goes against my principles , michel, against my principles, michel, what i'm about to suggest, but perhaps it's time to introduce national id cards. you're then saying it'll be one way of knowing who we let in, who is here and who we need to deport,

here and who we need to deport, he says. we'll said, do you think that? absolutely right. i am going to move on. so very, very, very quick answer to this. how is id card going to know how is an id card going to know if you going to. i don't if you are going to. i don't know. know all the know. i don't know all the circumstances. one minute circumstances. but one minute you're don't know, you're going to i don't know, split and now split or whatever, and now you're go stab kids. you're going to go stab kids. what a national id card what would a national id card achieve as a general crime fighting measure? the id cards would fighting measure? the id cards wowtt he— fighting measure? the id cards wowtt helgoot— fighting measure? the id cards would belgood thing,- �*" g g ”ti? the id cards would be good thing, and the would be a good thing, and the ohtw— would be a good thing, and the ohtw-thet— would be a good thing, and the ohtw-thet wett— would be a good thing, and the only that rail against only people that rail against them — only people that rail against them ee— only people that rail against them are people got some them are people who've got some teet— them are people who've got some teee—etete. | fear of conspiracy by the state. wett. — fear of conspiracy by the state. wett. wew.— fear of conspiracy by the state. well, kevin, kevin,— fear of conspiracy by the state. well, kevin, kevin, craig- fear of conspiracy by the state. well, kevin, kevin, craig and graham, are aligned graham, you two are all aligned . david's chipping in. what's the you? i the matter with you? i definitely want the matter with you? i- definitely-want national definitely don't want national id definitely don't want national to eet— definitely don't want national id cards. - have - definitely don't want national id cards. have you got id cards. why? have you got eohethhg— id cards. why? have you got something-hide?- id cards. why? have you got something hide? the people something to hide? the people who— something to hide? the people who ee— something to hide? the people who are criminals— something to hide? the people who are criminals are not who are criminals are just not going— who are criminals are just not gohglhewe— who are criminals are just not going-have them.- who are criminals are just not going have them. they're going to have them. they're going— going to have them. they're gohg-ehowt- going to have them. they're going-about and- going to have them. they're going about and their going to go about and do their otthhet— criminal business without hothehhg— criminal business without bothering-the- criminal business without bothering the national id bothering to get the national id eeet.— bothering to get the national id oewtltt-e— bothering to get the national id oewtltt-e hot— bothering to get the national id card. it's not going stop card. so it's not going to stop thoee— card. so it's not going to stop thoee-who— card. so it's not going to stop those-who want- card. so it's not going to stop those _who want to - card. so it's not going to stop those who want to break those people who want to break the-wee. — those people who want to break the-wee. t— those people who want to break the-yes. i have- those people who want to break the .yes. i have to- those people who want to break the yes. e the law. yes. i have to push it back to there, graham, at back to you there, graham, at home, would that help home, how would that help in this scenario? if you're a wrong'un, a mentally wrong'un, if you're a mentally ill whatever's going on and ill or whatever's going on and the details will emerge, what is that going do comes

that going to do when it comes to fella going into this to this fella going into this park killing the children? park and killing the children? yes, it would help us identify him. well, knew him. but we've. well, we knew who think within who he was. i think within hours. i'll tell you what else happened as well. would say happened as well. i would say almost don't almost instantly. i don't know about might have about you. you might have noficed about you. you might have noticed footage noticed this when this footage started that started emerging of that situation it was situation in france. it was about nanosecond before people about a nanosecond before people on channels weren't on other channels weren't mentioned them. but i think you'll instantly you'll know where were instantly coming out saying this is definitely mental health and anyone thinks otherwise anyone that thinks otherwise is far on far right. oh, well, hang on a second, we don't second, because we don't actually know what the situation is. if you were to go the is. so if you were to go the other and say it's other way and say it's definitely terrorism, you'd be absolutely so how absolutely slaughtered. so how come the other way come you can go the other way and immediately say it's definitely health definitely mental health in these me anyway, these cases? you tell me anyway, let's council, shall let's talk council, shall we? because one has because yet another one has basically bust. this is basically gone bust. this is working council. they've had to declare bankruptcy. £1.2 billion deficit. how would you even get yourself in that pickle? well, it's basically they think they're like little wheeler dealers. peterjones, they're like little wheeler dealers. peter jones, alan sugars. they're going out spending your money on things like commercial property

investments, hotels, sky scrapers and all the rest of it. there's a lot of others, by the way, croydon in thurrock, there's a list. you are a former councillor. kevin, what's going on? well, some councils do get it on? well, some councils do get tt wrong— on? well, some councils do get tt wrong end— on? well, some councils do get it wrong and what— tit7 well, some councils do get it wrong and what happens 7 well, some councils do get it wrong and what happens is thew— it wrong and what happens is thew get— it wrong and what happens is they get punished at the ballot box they get punished at the ballot how hw— they get punished at the ballot how hw tooet— they get punished at the ballot box by local people, all other eowhette— box by local people, all other councils and _ box by local people, all other councils and i'm— box by local people, all other councils and i'm not going to be hotttteet— councils and i'm not going to be hotttteet t— councils and i'm not going to be political, i don't— councils and i'm not going to be political, i don't even know who-e— political, i don't even know whee-them.- political, i don't even know who's them. south who's running them. south someteet— who's running them. south- somerset—really somerset have had some really big investment— somerset have had some really big investment successes and eowhett— big investment successes and eowhett-teee- big investment successes and council less money big investment successes and- council-less money from council have had less money from government— government over the last 13 weee — government over the last 13 wee thew— government over the last 13 wee thew tw— government over the last 13 years. they try to invest to hete— years. they try to invest to mete mohew— years. they try to invest to make money, to- years. they try to invest to make money, to provide better eewtoee— make money, to provide better eewteee tot— make money, to provide better services for their— make money, to provide better services for their residents and it services for their residents and tt eh— services for their residents and tt go— services for their residents and tt go wong— services for their residents and it can go wrong. and when it toee— it can go wrong. and when it toee ee— it can go wrong. and when it toee ee thte— it can go wrong. and when it does, as this report shows, it's ehenewe— does, as this report shows, it's epenetwe ent— does, as this report shows, it's expensive and embarrassing. and whet-e— expensive and embarrassing. and whet-e hepgenet— expensive and embarrassing. and what's happened here is that thet— what's happened here is that that political— what's happened here is that that political party in question in that political party in question tn wottng— that political party in question in woking have— that political party in question in woking have been punished. but in woking have been punished. hwt who— in woking have been punished. but who should— in woking have been punished. but who should pay though? heeoewe— but who should pay though? heeeewe tn— but who should pay though? because in-case- but who should pay though? because in-case of- but who should pay though? i because in-case of croydon, because in the case of croydon, for well they put their for example, well they put their council tax up what, 14, 15. so everyone living in those areas, they are now footing the bill. people are saying that they should be prosecuted for

misconduct in public office when these kind of things happen. david your thoughts? i totally agree with david your thoughts? i totally egnee wtth wow. — david your thoughts? i totally agree with you. i— david your thoughts? i totally agree with you. i mean,- jitt t: . 37 i totally agree with you. i mean, the councillors— agree with you. i mean, the councillors have— agree with you. i mean, the councillors have made this teeteton. — councillors have made this decision. _just- councillors have made this decision. just put their decision. they've just put their eownott— decision. they've just put their council areas— decision. they've just put their council areas and— decision. they've just put their council areas and people who council areas and the people who live council areas and the people who ttwelthoee— council areas and the people who live .those council— council areas and the people who live those council into live in those council areas into ttnenetet— live in those council areas into financial chaos— live in those council areas into financial chaos for— live in those council areas into financial chaos for ages. i mean wtth— financial chaos for ages. i mean wtth the— financial chaos for ages. i mean with the council— financial chaos for ages. i mean with the council tax going up, thet-e— with the council tax going up, thet-e the— with the council tax going up, that's the only— with the council tax going up, that's the only way that they ooeethtw— that's the only way that they can possibly get— that's the only way that they can possibly get the money to oonttnwe— can possibly get the money to eonttnwe to— can possibly get the money to continue to provide the basic hwhtto— continue to provide the basic public services— continue to provide the basic public services that they need to to. — public services that they need to to. toot,— public services that they need to do. look, councils should be hohng— to do. look, councils should be honng. thew— to do. look, councils should be boring. they shouldn't be tnweettng— boring. they shouldn't be investing in— boring. they shouldn't be investing in those casinos . they investing in those casinos. they ehowtt— investing in those casinos. they ehowtt newe— investing in those casinos. they should have seen— investing in those casinos. they should have seen the meetings. i should have seen the meetings. twe— should have seen the meetings. twe et— should have seen the meetings. twe et. newt.— should have seen the meetings. i was at. david, shockingly- i was at. david, shockingly bonng. i was at. david, shockingly boring . rest assured, that's boring. rest assured, that's good. but this certainly isn't. thew-we— good. but this certainly isn't. thew-we teen— good. but this certainly isn't. they've been tried. - 3: but this certainly isn't. they've been tried. they've been totng— they've been tried. they've been totng e— they've been tried. they've been totng e eon— they've been tried. they've been doing a sort-casino— they've been tried. they've been doing a sort casino scheme doing a sort of casino scheme here.— doing a sort of casino scheme hene. t— doing a sort of casino scheme hene. t meen— doing a sort of casino scheme here. i mean, woking used to be a here. i mean, woking used to be e towetw— here. i mean, woking used to be e towetw ttttte— here. i mean, woking used to be a lovely little market town in the— a lovely little market town in the mtttte— a lovely little market town in the middle of— a lovely little market town in the middle of surrey, you know , the middle of surrey, you know, gwtet— the middle of surrey, you know, gwtet, eteegw— the middle of surrey, you know, quiet, sleepy place. it's been transformed— quiet, sleepy place. it's been transformed beyond all recognition.— transformed beyond all recognition. it's like the oownett— recognition. it's like the eownett te— recognition. it's like the council is there, had a vision to twen— council is there, had a vision to twn ht— council is there, had a vision to turn it into— council is there, had a vision to turn it into the, the stngepone — to turn it into the, the singapore of- to turn it into the, the singapore of surrey which is the wrong— singapore of surrey which is the wrong thtng— singapore of surrey which is the wrong thtng ton— singapore of surrey which is the wrong thing for woking and they put wrong thing for woking and they owt ett— wrong thing for woking and they owt ett thte— wrong thing for woking and they put all this money into creating theee— put all this money into creating

these companies— put all this money into creating these companies that were owned by these companies that were owned hw the— these companies that were owned hw the eownott— these companies that were owned by the council that— these companies that were owned by the council that got into tent— by the council that got into teht ent— by the council that got into debt and the— by the council that got into debt and the thing is now the tnteneet— debt and the thing is now the interest rates— debt and the thing is now the interest rates are— debt and the thing is now the interest rates are going up. they— interest rates are going up. thew tht— interest rates are going up. they did this— interest rates are going up. they did this when it was very tow— they did this when it was very tow tnteneet— they did this when it was very low interest rate— they did this when it was very low interest rate terms, you know,— low interest rate terms, you know, scenario _ low interest rate terms, you know, scenario for ten, ten ween— know, scenario for ten, ten weene on— know, scenario for ten, ten years or so. now- know, scenario for ten, ten years or so. now the interest netee— years or so. now the interest rates are going— years or so. now the interest rates are going up. they've been eewght— rates are going up. they've been eewght ehon— rates are going up. they've been caught short and— rates are going up. they've been caught short and a— rates are going up. they've been caught short and a lot more eownotte— caught short and a lot more councils are— caught short and a lot more councils are going to be caught out-cause the- councils are going to be caught out cause the interest out because cause the interest netee— out because cause the interest twee—ant- out because cause the interest netee—ant eol rates have changed. and so eettw— rates have changed. and so eeew-te— rates have changed. and so eeew-he not- rates have changed. and so sadly, is not going to be sadly, this is not going to be the— sadly, this is not going to be the-ot— sadly, this is not going to be the-oh ht.— sadly, this is not going to be the-of it. and- sadly, this is not going to be the-of it. and i- sadly, this is not going to be the of it. and i agree the last of it. and i agree eetwettw— the last of it. and i agree actually with— the last of it. and i agree actually with the mentality of twtng — trying to bring criminal prosecutions- trying to bring criminal prosecutions in, because i think if prosecutions in, because i think tn the— prosecutions in, because i think tn the energe— prosecutions in, because i think if the charge would be, as i was neettng— if the charge would be, as i was neettng wh— if the charge would be, as i was reading up earlier— if the charge would be, as i was reading up earlier on about it, mteeontwet— reading up earlier on about it, misconduct in— reading up earlier on about it, misconduct in public office and i misconduct in public office and t ewhhon— misconduct in public office and tewhhonthet. — misconduct in public office and i support that. do— misconduct in public office and i support that. jtit 7 “tin?" i support that. do you? yeah i mean, in theory, yes. and in the past, councillors— mean, in theory, yes. and in the past, councillors who— " jtit; and in the past, councillors who didn't set remember under— past, councillors who didn't set remember under the back in the day councillors— remember under the back in the day councillors who didn't set a eownott— day councillors who didn't set a eownett tex— day councillors who didn't set a council tax level— day councillors who didn't set a council tax level the poll tax, thew— council tax level the poll tax, thew then-t— council tax level the poll tax, they didn't agree— council tax level the poll tax, they didn't agree with it, council tax level the poll tax, they didn't agree with it , they they didn't agree with it, they eotwettw— they didn't agree with it, they actually were _ they didn't agree with it, they actually were taken to court for not eetttng— actually were taken to court for not eetttng e— actually were taken to court for not setting a council tax heeewee— not setting a council tax because they— not setting a council tax because they didn't want to tntttet— because they didn't want to tntttet the — because they didn't want to inflict the rises— because they didn't want to inflict the rises that central government— inflict the rises that central government were asking them. government were asking of them. so government were asking of them. eo-en— government were asking of them. so-an established- so there is an established ennetpte— so there is an established principle-vou- so there is an established principle you do become so there is an established- principle _you do become a principle when you do become a eownettton— principle when you do become a councillor, you— principle when you do become a

councillor, you do— principle when you do become a councillor, you do sign forms thet— councillor, you do sign forms thet teth— councillor, you do sign forms that talk about— councillor, you do sign forms that talk about the seriousness of that talk about the seriousness ot the — that talk about the seriousness ot the once— that talk about the seriousness of the office that— that talk about the seriousness of the office that you're taking on wow— of the office that you're taking on your responsibilities to be tteeettw— on your responsibilities to be fiscally sensible.— on your responsibilities to be fiscally sensible. there's a wew— fiscally sensible. there's a wew gooe— fiscally sensible. there's a very good quote here from the enew— very good quote here from the eheh ot— very good quote here from the eheh ot the— very good quote here from the chair of the select committee, meg— chair of the select committee, neg htttten— chair of the select committee, meg hillier, who— chair of the select committee, meg hillier, who says, we've eeen-menw— meg hillier, who says, we've seen many council borrowing seen too many council borrowing mwttthte— seen too many council borrowing mwttthte ttmee— seen too many council borrowing multiple times their annual hwtget—so- multiple times their annual- budget_so david's budget at huge risk. so david's nont— budget at huge risk. so david's hotntle— budget at huge risk. so david's hotntle gooe— budget at huge risk. so david's point-a good one.— budget at huge risk. so david's point a good one. you should point is a good one. you should etoht— point is a good one. you should etoht the— point is a good one. you should adopt the same— point is a good one. you should adopt the same principles of ttnenotet— adopt the same principles of financial management that you wowtt— financial management that you wowtt-wwete - would in your private life. ween.— would in your private life. ween—toeei would in your private life. l yeah,_does in yeah, but the nobody does in government at all. there is no real of, know real kind of sense of, you know , i would do this with my money and therefore i shall this and therefore i shall do this with because it's this with the money because it's this massive detachment between, i think, public think, people that are in public office think, well, office and they think, well, it's this it's like a magic it's just this it's like a magic money tree. and we joke about it's just this it's like a magic mon saying. and we joke about it's just this it's like a magic mon saying. anthee joke about it's just this it's like a magic mon saying. anthe e joke gary,t that saying all the time. gary, one viewers is a smart lad one of my viewers is a smart lad . he's saying they go bust these councils they councils because they spend extortionate of money, extortionate amounts of money, reckons and half to reckons three and a half to grand light fitting 12in grand move a light fitting 12in and they pay over 20 grand for one person to have new carpet one person to have a new carpet desk chair. and he goes, desk and chair. and he goes, yes, definitely happened. yes, it definitely happened. michel they're not michel he's saying they're not tendering properly. is tendering for jobs properly. is that accurate? is it gary, that accurate? it's is it gary,

you said. gary yeah, it's gary's exehenene— you said. gary yeah, it's gary's experience and— you said. gary yeah, it's gary's experience and it's— /ti. t: gary yeah, it's gary's experience and it's i've /ti.t. t: gary yeah, it's gary's experience and it's i've no towht— experience and it's i've no towht hee— experience and it's i've no doubt he's right. but, you know, two— doubt he's right. but, you know, two thtnge. — doubt he's right. but, you know, two thtnge. vow— doubt he's right. but, you know, two things. you sort of broadly ttemtee— two things. you sort of broadly dismiss what— two things. you sort of broadly dismiss what the— two things. you sort of broadly dismiss what the political class as dismiss what the political class ee hetng— dismiss what the political class as being detached from the hwhtte— as being detached from the hwhtte t— as being detached from the hwhtte t-thew- as being detached from the public. i they are. as being detached from the- public. i-they are. yeah. public. i think they are. yeah. i public. i think they are. yeah. t thtnt— public. i think they are. yeah. t thtnt wow-e— public. i think they are. yeah. i think you're totally— public. i think they are. “tit?" i think you're totally wrong. thet-e— i think you're totally wrong. thet-e ett— i think you're totally wrong. that's all right.— i think you're totally wrong. that's all right. i'm probably. am— that's all right. i'm probably. am t— that's all right. i'm probably. am t wronge— that's all right. i'm probably. am i wrong? well, i'll tell you whw— am i wrong? well, i'll tell you whw-t— am i wrong? well, i'll tell you whw-t thtnt— am i wrong? well, i'll tell you why. i think probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic i think probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as i think probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as it i think probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as it is, think probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as it is, hang probably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as it is, hang outobably am i wrong? well, i'll tell you vttragic as it is, hang out with.y , tragic as it is, hang out with more members— , tragic as it is, hang out with more members of— , tragic as it is, hang out with more members of parliament from all more members of parliament from ett—to. — more members of parliament from ett—to. ant- all parties than you do. and moet— all parties than you do. and moet ot— all parties than you do. and moet ot the— all parties than you do. and most of the time— all parties than you do. and most of the time there are heohte— most of the time there are geogte wtth— most of the time there are geogte wtth e— most of the time there are people with a real commitment to hwhtte— people with a real commitment to hwhtte otttee— people with a real commitment to public office who— people with a real commitment to public office who want to serve. heng— public office who want to serve. heng on— public office who want to serve. heng on one— public office who want to serve. hang on one second. let's do how— hang on one second. let's do local councils. _ hang on one second. let's do local councils. i'm- hang on one second. let's do local councils. g local councils. i'm saying that i think they're completely detached from the reality. and you think local councillors are. i prove that saying, i would prove that by saying, toot— i would prove that by saying, look-turnouts- i would prove that by saying, look-turnouts on- i would prove that by saying, look turnouts on local look at the turnouts on local eteettone. — look at the turnouts on local elections. _don't- look at the turnouts on locali elections. _don't even look at the turnouts on locali electi there's - don't even look at the turnouts on local electi tifti; chit“ . " look at the turnouts on local electi tifti; i"i" if care. there's no connection anymore. voting anymore. well let's make voting compulsory like they do in australia. no, compulsory like they do in australia . no, i don't think so. australia. no, i don't think so. i australia. no, i don't think so. t ton-t— australia. no, i don't think so. t ton-t t— australia. no, i don't think so. i don't i don't vote in local council elections. i think you should it shouldn't be compulsory, i think an compulsory, but i think an electorate needs electorate in general needs to get heritage might help get well. heritage might help you get well. heritage might help wow gwwe. — get well. heritage might help vou guy5- welle— get well. heritage might help you guy5- wellt i_ gi. heritage might help you guys. i e you guys. well, i wouldn't you know, don't you should know, i don't think you should force people to go vote force people to go to vote and then you don't, you're then say if you don't, you're going be penalised, you're

going to be penalised, you're going to be penalised, you're going to be penalised, you're going to have a criminal sanction but i do want sanction on you. but i do want people be engaged. and people to be more engaged. and i do all the time local do say all the time local councils, local elections so councils, local elections are so important for what happens in your neighbourhood. everyone should the nationals and should vote in the nationals and the locals. if you don't want this kind of thing to happen, vote for a party like the heritage party who are going to be financially responsible for saying to the party political broadcast. moving on i found tnteneettng— broadcast. moving on i found interesting is— broadcast. moving on i found interesting is i— broadcast. moving on i found interesting is i just- :i moving on i found interesting is i just said to you,— interesting is i just said to youe t— interesting is i just said to wow. t thtnt— interesting is i just said to you, i think there's a disconnect- you, i think there's a. disconnect-the you, i think there's a— disconnect-the political disconnect between the political eteee—wow- disconnect between the political class—you don't.- disconnect between the political class—you don't. ii class and you said you don't. i ghe— class and you said you don't. i gtwelexemhte— class and you said you don't. i. give-example-turnout give an example yet the turnout ent— give an example yet the turnout ent-neehonee— give an example yet the turnout and-response to— give an example yet the turnout and response to that was, and your response to that was, wett— and your response to that was, wet-mete— and your response to that was, well,-make them- and your response to that was, well, make them engaged. well, make make them engaged. wett— well, make make them engaged. wett ntght— well, make make them engaged. well, right. force— well, make make them engaged. well, right. force them make it oompwteow— well, right. force them make it oompwteow-te- well, right. force them make it compulsory. _is one. compulsory. yeah that is one thtng— compulsory. yeah that is one thtng-oowtt— compulsory. yeah that is one thing could australia thing you could do in australia . twe— thing you could do in australia . the teen— thing you could do in australia . i've been at— thing you could do in australia . i've been at multiple- thing you could do in australia . i've been at multiple election counts right counts in this country right where you're at the count of where you you're at the count of a or a local council election or a parliamentary election. right. a local council election or a parltwo, ntary election. right. a local council election or a parltwo, three election. right. a local council election or a parltwo, three elethe n. right. a local council election or a parltwo, three elethe morning till two, three in the morning counting ballots . okay. and counting the ballots. okay. and it's beautiful democracy. sometimes little . i sometimes they draw little. i won't say what the symbols are on the paper very on the ballot paper with very rude been i've stood rude words. i've been i've stood for rude words. i've been i've stood to eteetton— rude words. i've been i've stood for election twice— rude words. i've been i've stood for election twice as— t:ti; : i've been i've stood for election twice as well as chennet— for election twice as well as chennai six. _ for election twice as well as chennai six. it— for election twice as well as chennai six. it is.- for election twice as well as chennai six. . 't: chennai six. it is. and, you know, other times it's a real degree of creativity and the

swear letter swear words, they put one letter in each of the squares down the right hand side. but the point is specifically to your point, michel, you you've just conflated together conflated and put together politicians being detached and low turnouts . most politicians low turnouts. most politicians i know, labour, tory, lib dem, green, you applied heritage, whatever want more people to vote because it gives them more respectability. but you don't eehtewe— respectability. but you don't achieve more— respectability. but you don't achieve more people- i e qt but you don't achieve more people by voting by mettng— achieve more people by voting by mettng them— achieve more people by voting by mettng them .— achieve more people by voting by making them . i'm— achieve more people by voting by making them . i'm going to make making them. i'm going to make wow.— making them. i'm going to make wow. tm— making them. i'm going to make wow. t-m gohg— making them. i'm going to make wow. t-m gotng to— making them. i'm going to make you. i'm going to stick this etch— you. i'm going to stick this ettet oven— you. i'm going to stick this stick over your— you. i'm going to stick this stick over your head and i'm going— stick over your head and i'm gotng to— stick over your head and i'm gotng to teet— stick over your head and i'm going to beat you until you do. how— going to beat you until you do. vow—vow- going to beat you until you do. vow—vow to- going to beat you until you do. you—you do it. going to beat you until you do. you—you do it by you don't do that. you do it by hewng— you don't do that. you do it by hewng peopte— you don't do that. you do it by having people that members of the eoetetw— having people that members of the society that— having people that members of the society that are not potttteettw— the society that are not politically have politically engaged. you have geome— politically engaged. you have oeonte-oen- politically engaged. you havei oeopte-oen-to people that they can relate to hottotee— people that they can relate to pottetee thet— people that they can relate to policies that they to. policies that they relate to. ant— policies that they relate to. and crucially,— policies that they relate to. and crucially, people that they tnwet— and crucially, people that they thet-thew— and crucially, people that they trust they believe. trust and that they believe. aetwettw— trust and that they believe. aetwettw. ht— trust and that they believe. actually, if i— trust and that they believe. actually, if i-for- trust and that they believe. actually, if i for this actually, if i vote for this tew— actually, if i vote for this tew. ht— actually, if i vote for this law, it will— actually, if i vote for this law, it will actually make a ttttenenoe. — law, it will actually make a difference. .i- law, it will actually make a. difference. .i-argue difference. and i would argue thet—me- that so many people, me tnetwteet— that so many people, me included, don't- that so many people, me included, don't believe that thet— included, don't believe that thetlthe— included, don't believe that that-the case.— included, don't believe that that the case. we well that is the case. we do. well tm — that is the case. we do. well tm not— that is the case. we do. well m not gohg— that is the case. we do. well i'm not going to— that is the case. we do. well i'm not going to argue that many geome— i'm not going to argue that many heohte. tnetwttng— i'm not going to argue that many people, including you , believe people, including you, believe whet— people, including you, believe what-believe— people, including you, believe what-believe as- people, including you, believe what believe as is your what you believe as is your nght. — what you believe as is your nght. owt— what you believe as is your nght. nwt ee— what you believe as is your right. but as is— what you believe as is your right. but as is demonstrated by low right. but as is demonstrated by tow twnowt. — right. but as is demonstrated by low turnout. -n0,- right. but as is demonstrated by low turnout. i low turnout. well, no, because low turnout. well, no, because low turnouts make people are like, right, i'm quite like, all right, i'm quite happy.

like, all right, i'm quite happy- you happy. can't be bothered, you know, see, only someone that has been councillor could been a local councillor could perceive a low turnout as being a sign that actually people are happy with the status quo . my happy with the status quo. my lack of turnout would be because i lack of turnout would be because t thtnt— lack of turnout would be because t thtnt thew-ne— lack of turnout would be because i think they're all— lack of turnout would be because i think they're all no offence, eheotwtetw— i think they're all no offence, absolutely useless and i do not thtnt— absolutely useless and i do not thtnt thet— absolutely useless and i do not thtnt thet mw— absolutely useless and i do not think that my votes will make any— think that my votes will make enw tonm — think that my votes will make enw tonm ot— think that my votes will make any form of meaningful change. thet-e— any form of meaningful change. thet-e whw— any form of meaningful change. thet-e whw t— any form of meaningful change. that's why i don't— any form of meaningful change. that's why i don't say and not heeewee— that's why i don't say and not heeewee tm— that's why i don't say and not because i'm sitting there heettng— because i'm sitting there heettng tn— because i'm sitting there basking in the sunshine of oh my,— basking in the sunshine of oh myt thew-ne— basking in the sunshine of oh myt they're ett— basking in the sunshine of oh my, they're all so— basking in the sunshine of oh my, they're all so wonderful and i my, they're all so wonderful and t ton-t— my, they're all so wonderful and t ton-t went— my, they're all so wonderful and i don't want anything to change. am ltetwtete— i don't want anything to change. am i deluded? you _ i don't want anything to change. am deluded? you tell me. gb am i deluded? you tell me. gb vtewe— am i deluded? you tell me. gb vtewe et— am i deluded? you tell me. gb vtewe et en— am i deluded? you tell me. gb views at gb news— am i deluded? you tell me. gb views at gb news .com or you can tweet— views at gb news .com or you can tweet me— views at gb news .com or you can tweet me et— views at gb news .com or you can tweet me et en— views at gb news .com or you can tweet me at gb news. let me know who— tweet me at gb news. let me know who wow— tweet me at gb news. let me know who wow egnee— tweet me at gb news. let me know who you agree with.— tweet me at gb news. let me know who you agree with. anyway are you who you agree with. anyway are wow e— who you agree with. anyway are wow e tog — who you agree with. anyway are wow e tog towere— who you agree with. anyway are you a dog lover? are you someone on the— you a dog lover? are you someone on the other— you a dog lover? are you someone on the other side— you a dog lover? are you someone on the other side that's perhaps tnghtenet— on the other side that's perhaps frightened because frightened of dogs? because enothen— frightened of dogs? because another-another- frightened of dogs? because another another dog attack? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoinganother dog attack? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoing onther dog attack? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoing on and dog attack? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoing on and whatittack? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoing on and what isick? frightened of dogs? because anotheigoing on and what is the what's going on and what is the neeottone— what's going on and what is the neeettone ho— what's going on and what is the reaction? do you— what's going on and what is the reaction? do you think we're totng— reaction? do you think we're totng enowgh— reaction? do you think we're doing enough about dangerous dog etteote— doing enough about dangerous dog etteote-we— doing enough about dangerous dog attacks-we over— doing enough about dangerous dog attacks we over reacting? attacks or are we over reacting? do attacks or are we over reacting? too-remember— attacks or are we over reacting? do-remember that- attacks or are we over reacting? do remember that case the do you remember that case of the toget— do you remember that case of the togee wttttone— do you remember that case of the dogs? millions marshall , dogs? millions and marshall, teet— dogs? millions and marshall, tech-not- dogs? millions and marshall, back-not that- dogs? millions and marshall, back not that long dogs? millions and marshall,- back-not that long ago back in london not that long ago -thowghte— back in london not that long ago -thowghte-wow-

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happens there, worry not everyone. we will be hnngtng— worry not everyone. we will be hnngtng ht— worry not everyone. we will be hnngtng tt to— worry not everyone. we will be bringing it to you.— worry not everyone. we will be bringing it to you. but in the meente— bringing it to you. but in the meantime, we've— bringing it to you. but in the meantime, we've been talking. oh gosh.— meantime, we've been talking. oh goeh h— meantime, we've been talking. oh goeh. tt wow-e— meantime, we've been talking. oh goeh. tt woe twet— meantime, we've been talking. oh gosh, if you've just tuned in, wow-e— gosh, if you've just tuned in, woe mteeet— gosh, if you've just tuned in, you've missed out. everyone twet— you've missed out. everyone twet teen— you've missed out. everyone we've just been talking about the.— we've just been talking about the. absolutely— we've just been talking about the. absolutely horrendous ettwetton— the. absolutely horrendous. situation—cards situation in france. id cards wee-h— situation in france. id cards were up as a potential were brought up as a potential eotwtton— were brought up as a potential eotwtton gohg— were brought up as a potential solution going forward. one of my solution going forward. one of mw wewee— solution going forward. one of my viewers, andy, on twitter sat/st— my viewers, andy, on twitter says, michelle,— my viewers, andy, on twitter says, michelle, can you tell everyone, please, in france, we etneetw— everyone, please, in france, we etneetw-th— everyone, please, in france, we already-id cards- everyone, please, in france, we already id cards and they already have id cards and they hewen-t— already have id cards and they hewen-t mete— already have id cards and they haven't made a— already have id cards and they haven't made a blind bit of ttttenenoe. — haven't made a blind bit of difference. he— haven't made a blind bit of difference. he says when it comes-council- difference. he says when it comes council rules, pisa comes to council rules, pisa eewe— comes to council rules, pisa eewe .— comes to council rules, pisa eewe . twet— comes to council rules, pisa says , we're just talking about says, we're just talking about whether— says, we're just talking about whether on— says, we're just talking about whether or not— says, we're just talking about whether or not it— says, we're just talking about whether or not it should be eomhwteow— whether or not it should be eomhwteotw ht— whether or not it should be compulsory if you vote, he says if compulsory if you vote, he says tt wow— compulsory if you vote, he says tt wow mete— compulsory if you vote, he says if you make voting— compulsory if you vote, he says if you make voting compulsory , if you make voting compulsory, then— if you make voting compulsory, then there— if you make voting compulsory, then there should— if you make voting compulsory, then there should be a none of then there should be a none of the ehowe— then there should be a none of the ehowe on— then there should be a none of the above on ballot. and if the above on the ballot. and if you— the above on the ballot. and if wow .— the above on the ballot. and if wow . ant— the above on the ballot. and if wow . ant then— the above on the ballot. and if you . and then-but- the above on the ballot. and if you . and then but what you. and then yeah, but what hee— you. and then yeah, but what hee-te— you. and then yeah, but what he-e-te ht— you. and then yeah, but what he's-is if more- you. and then yeah, but what he's is if more people he's saying is if more people thet— he's saying is if more people ttet thet— he's saying is if more people tick that box,— he's saying is if more people tick that box, essentially tick that box, then essentially nohotw— tick that box, then essentially nobody-elected- tick that box, then essentially nobody-elected .. tick that box, then essentially nobody elected . he nobody should be elected. he nett— nobody should be elected. he hett egneet— nobody should be elected. he half agreed with— nobody should be elected. he half agreed with you then . i

half agreed with you then. i ton-t— half agreed with you then. i ton-t thtnt— half agreed with you then. i don't think he— half agreed with you then. i don't think he at the end. good ttee. — don't think he at the end. good ttee. wett— don't think he at the end. good idea. well-nobody- don't think he at the end. good idea. well nobody would be idea. well that nobody would be eteotet— idea. well that nobody would be elected-that's- idea. well that nobody would be elected _that's the - idea. well that nobody would be elected that's the will elected because that's the will of elected because that's the will ot the — elected because that's the will on the pewte— elected because that's the will of the people. well yeah. and then— of the people. well yeah. and then-wowe— of the people. well yeah. and then-would run- of the people. well yeah. and then would run you all then who would run you all i ton-t— then who would run you all i ton-t tnow. — then who would run you all i don't know. there'd be absolute enenehw— don't know. there'd be absolute anarchy,-there?- anarchy, wouldn't there? kyiv eewe—cotteet says they should only collect enowgh—to- enough these councils to tttenettw— enough these councils to literally cover— enough these councils to literally cover services, literally cover their services, not— literally cover their services, notto— literally cover their services, not to indulge _ literally cover their services, not to indulge on vanity wot-eete.— not to indulge on vanity wot-eete. twe— not to indulge on vanity projects. i've got to say, i egnee— projects. i've got to say, i egnee wtth— projects. i've got to say, i agree with you- projects. i've got to say, i agree with you there, although hwtt— agree with you there, although hwtt whene — agree with you there, although hull, where i'm— agree with you there, although hull, where i'm from, hull city cownott— hull, where i'm from, hull city cownett thew— hull, where i'm from, hull city council, they were— hull, where i'm from, hull city council, they were very rich . i council, they were very rich. i thtnt— council, they were very rich. i thtnt ht— council, they were very rich. i thtnt tt ee— council, they were very rich. i think it was 1999— council, they were very rich. i think it was 1999 when kingston communications— think it was 1999 when kingston communications ,_ think it was 1999 when kingston communications , we have like our communications, we have like our phone— communications, we have like our own phone network,— communications, we have like our own phone network, basically, ent— own phone network, basically, end the— own phone network, basically, ent thte thew— own phone network, basically, and this they sold their share when— and this they sold their share when ht— and this they sold their share when it floated _ and this they sold their share when it floated on, the stock mentet— when it floated on, the stock market became _ when it floated on, the stock market became very rich. it got ehowt— market became very rich. it got ehowt zeo— market became very rich. it got about 250 odd— market became very rich. it got about 250 odd million pounds. so thew— about 250 odd million pounds. so thew ett— about 250 odd million pounds. so thew ttt t— about 250 odd million pounds. so they did i would— about 250 odd million pounds. so they did i would argue that they tnttenet— they did i would argue that they tnttenet e— they did i would argue that they frittered a lot— they did i would argue that they frittered a lot of— they did i would argue that they frittered a lot of that away. owt— frittered a lot of that away. hwt thet— frittered a lot of that away. hwt thet te— frittered a lot of that away. but that is a— frittered a lot of that away. but that is a story for another tew. — but that is a story for another tew. henn— but that is a story for another tew. tewn t— but that is a story for another day. kevin i was— but that is a story for another day. kevin i was saying i don't twn— day. kevin i was saying i don't twn owt.— day. kevin i was saying i don't twn owt. he— day. kevin i was saying i don't turn out. he was— day. kevin i was saying i don't turn out. he was saying that he wowtt— turn out. he was saying that he would basically— turn out. he was saying that he would basically make voting eomhwteow— would basically make voting compulsory free. would say compulsory free. i would say nephe— compulsory free. i would say meente-to— compulsory free. i would say inspire _to vote.- compulsory free. i would say inspire to vote. don't inspire people to vote. don't twee— inspire people to vote. don't tonee-enwwew- inspire people to vote. don't tonee-enwwew .- inspire people to vote. don't force anyway . let's talk force them anyway. let's talk dog— force them anyway. let's talk tog-ehett— force them anyway. let's talk dog-shall we?- force them anyway. let's talk dog shall we? because dog attacks, shall we? because there— dog attacks, shall we? because there hee— dog attacks, shall we? because there has been— dog attacks, shall we? because there has been another day and yet there has been another day and wet-nonme— there has been another day and yet-horrific dog- there has been another day and yet horrific dog attack yet another horrific dog attack tootege— yet another horrific dog attack tootege ot— yet another horrific dog attack footage of which— yet another horrific dog attack footage of which widely

circulating _ footage of which widely circulating on the internet. ttt— circulating on the internet. t-tt wew— circulating on the internet. t-tt htew en— circulating on the internet. i'll play an element of it now, ent— i'll play an element of it now, ent t— i'll play an element of it now, ent t mwet— i'll play an element of it now, ent t mwet eew— i'll play an element of it now, and i must say a— i'll play an element of it now, and i must say a warning to enwone— and i must say a warning to enwone thet-e— and i must say a warning to anyone that's easily distressed . if anyone that's easily distressed . tt wow— anyone that's easily distressed . tt wow went— anyone that's easily distressed . if you want to— anyone that's easily distressed . if you want to mute this by t— . if you want to mute this by now or, i don't— . if you want to mute this by now or, i don't know, put your hente— now or, i don't know, put your hente oven— now or, i don't know, put your hands over your— now or, i don't know, put your hands over your eyes and do it owt— hands over your eyes and do it hwt tong— hands over your eyes and do it now. but long story short, there e teew— now. but long story short, there e tetw owt— now. but long story short, there was a lady out on— now. but long story short, there was a lady out on a green area between— was a lady out on a green area hetween eome— was a lady out on a green area between some flats and not one, not two.— between some flats and not one, not two. hwt— between some flats and not one, not two, but three _ between some flats and not one, not two, but three dogs set ehowt— not two, but three dogs set ehowt hen— not two, but three dogs set about her. the— not two, but three dogs set about her. the owner desperately twtng— about her. the owner desperately twtng to— about her. the owner desperately twtng to own— about her. the owner desperately trying to pull these dogs off. wot— trying to pull these dogs off. wot neettw— trying to pull these dogs off. not really having much joy. it hee— not really having much joy. it hee to— not really having much joy. it hee to he— not really having much joy. it has to be said.— not really having much joy. it has to be said. it's re—enacted thte— has to be said. it's re—enacted the. sow.— has to be said. it's re—enacted the. sow tt-e— has to be said. it's re—enacted this. sorry, it's recreated this conversation _ this. sorry, it's recreated this conversation about should tengenowe— conversation about should dangerous dog— conversation about should dangerous dog attacks . what dangerous dog attacks. what ehowtt— dangerous dog attacks. what ehowtt we— dangerous dog attacks. what should we do?— dangerous dog attacks. what should we do? should we do more or should we do? should we do more on teeee— should we do? should we do more on teeee tet— should we do? should we do more or less? let me— should we do? should we do more or less? let me just— should we do? should we do more or less? let me just get a graph up or less? let me just get a graph we hetone— or less? let me just get a graph we hetone t— or less? let me just get a graph up before i bring— or less? let me just get a graph up before i bring you in. can i met— up before i bring you in. can i twet get— up before i bring you in. can i twet get e— up before i bring you in. can i twet get e graph— up before i bring you in. can i just get a graph up on my screen ent— just get a graph up on my screen ent t-tt— just get a graph up on my screen ent ttt enow— just get a graph up on my screen and i'll show you— just get a graph up on my screen and i'll show you actually what is and i'll show you actually what he gohg— and i'll show you actually what he gotng on— and i'll show you actually what he gotng on th— and i'll show you actually what is going on in terms of the nwmehe— is going on in terms of the nwmehe ot— is going on in terms of the numbers of dog- is going on in terms of the numbers of dog attacks. i've got the graph-— numbers of dog attacks. i've got the green. yep- — numbers of dog attacks. i've got the graph. yep. there you go. so ene-ee— the graph. yep. there you go. so can-see that?— the graph. yep. there you go. so can see that? everybody, if can you see that? everybody, if wow-e— can you see that? everybody, if you're listening,— can you see that? everybody, if you're listening, not watching. it you're listening, not watching. tt—otwtowetw.- it took a dip, obviously, heeewee— it took a dip, obviously,- because-country because the whole country was enettw— because the whole country was enettw mweh— because the whole country was pretty much down. pretty much locked down. and then— pretty much locked down. and then-absolutely- pretty much locked down. and then absolutely up in then it's absolutely shot up in eent— then it's absolutely shot up in eent weee — then it's absolutely shot up in recent years, as— then it's absolutely shot up in recent years, as you can see,

recent years, as you can see, newt— recent years, as you can see, newt thton— recent years, as you can see, newt ttnton .— recent years, as you can see, david kirton , your thoughts from david kirton, your thoughts from the— david kirton, your thoughts from the? teen— david kirton, your thoughts from the? teen t— david kirton, your thoughts from this? yeah i mean,— david kirton, your thoughts from this? yeah i mean, this goes etong— this? yeah i mean, this goes etong wtth— this? yeah i mean, this goes along with what— this? yeah i mean, this goes along with what i've heard from the eottee— along with what i've heard from the eottee ee— along with what i've heard from the police as well. i the police as well. i actually know— the police as well. i actually know someone personally who's been attacked by a dog and lost a bit of a finger, which is a horrendous thing. and the police said to her when this happened, yeah, the dog attacks have doubled in the last ten years or so. so there is something going on. but what is it? what do you thtnt— on. but what is it? what do you thtnt tt— on. but what is it? what do you thtnt tt tee— on. but what is it? what do you thtnt tt tee — on. but what is it? what do you think it is? it— on. but what is it? what do you think it is? it could— on. but what is it? what do you think it is? it could be- tit“ but what is it? what do you think it is? e i: think it is? it could be people having more of the dangerous breeds. it could be obviously me. i think it's people being less responsible with their dogs and people will not training them well and not taking good care of them and not making sure that they don't attack other people. you know, you see these dogs here. there were three of them in a park. they were not on a lead. they were just free, almost in a pack . so they got almost in a pack. so they got the pack mentality of a dangerous pitbull type dog and they just attack someone . one

they just attack someone. one goes, then the others go as well . they need to be on leads and they to trained and they they need to be trained and they need be kept under control . need to be kept under control. yeah, think that's very fair. yeah, i think that's very fair. ant— yeah, i think that's very fair. ant t— yeah, i think that's very fair. ant t thtnh— yeah, i think that's very fair. and i think, you— yeah, i think that's very fair. and i think, you know, the eottee— and i think, you know, the police _they're - and i think, you know, the- police _they're looking police say that they're looking for—michelle, - for those dogs, michelle, that wow-e— for those dogs, michelle, that wow-we—ant- for those dogs, michelle, that you've—and when| for those dogs, michelle, that- you've_and when they you've alluded to. and when they get-thewhe — you've alluded to. and when they get they're probably going get them, they're probably going to, get them, they're probably going to—ewt- get them, they're probably going to—ewt down-i to, i would hope, get put down. ant— to, i would hope, get put down. ant-eeoete— to, i would hope, get put down. ant-eeoete ee— to, i would hope, get put down. and people are worried about and but people are worried about it. and but people are worried about t. ant— and but people are worried about t. ant eome— and but people are worried about t. ant ot— and but people are worried about it. and some of these breeds, thew— it. and some of these breeds, thew ee— it. and some of these breeds, they are really— it. and some of these breeds, they are really terrifying. well it_difficult- they are really terrifying. well it_difficult to . it can't be that difficult to treet— it can't be that difficult to track _ because| it can't be that difficult to track _ because was track them down because this was onlgneee— track them down because this was onlgneee-on— track them down because this was onlgneee-on en— track them down because this was on grass on an estate, on a grass area, on an estate, ent— on a grass area, on an estate, ent eomehotw— on a grass area, on an estate, and somebody somewhere will know that and somebody somewhere will know thet-me— and somebody somewhere will know thet-hte-toge- that fella with his three dogs, vou— that fella with his three dogs, wow-newe— that fella with his three dogs, you-have seen- that fella with his three dogs, you have seen him all over you will have seen him all over the—wowe- you will have seen him all over the—would hope. you will have seen him all over. the _would hope so. the place. you would hope so. but, the place. you would hope so. nwt. wow— the place. you would hope so. nwt. wow know.— the place. you would hope so. but, you know, we— the place. you would hope so. but, you know, we live- the place. you would hope so. but, you know, we live in- the place. ti/ttte. : but, you know, we live in a wont— but, you know, we live in a world where _ but, you know, we live in a world where 98% of bike thefts go wneotwet— world where 98% of bike thefts go wneotwet we. — world where 98% of bike thefts go unsolved up. so this is a goon— go unsolved up. so this is a good point. but then to your point, you're saying that the police them, police are looking for them, then they'll be put then they'll potentially be put down. do you and do you at home remember case of the two remember that case of the two dogs millions dogs that were called millions and this was in and marshall and this was in london? it was on like like a thames like a waterside thames side, like a waterside thing. i'll you thing. and i'll show you a little bit of this footage. don't worry, everyone. i'm not going to show you the most distressing not. distressing part. worry not. you can your screen you're

can see on your screen if you're listening, describe a fella listening, i'll describe a fella has two dogs there one, has got two dogs there is one, two, three, four, five, six. there's about seven coppers. at least them least one, perhaps two of them pointing at these two pointing their guns at these two dogs. coppers, he's dogs. one of the coppers, he's got taser. anyway, the fella, got a taser. anyway, the fella, the dog owner lets these dogs off the lead. literally off the lead. and literally within second, of within a split second, one of the coppers shoots the first dog, obviously then dog, and then obviously then goes on to shoot and kill the second dog and taser the owner as well. so many people were outraged by that. really upset, heartbroken . and they've written heartbroken. and they've written into me about it previously. was that overreaction, do you that an overreaction, do you think ? btec not sure it was . think? btec not sure it was. tteettwe— think? btec not sure it was. tteettwe ween.— think? btec not sure it was. really? yeah. the- “7 btec not sure it was. really? yeah. the police . you really? yeah. the police. you een-t— really? yeah. the police. you een-t get— really? yeah. the police. you een-t get tt— really? yeah. the police. you can't get it right— really? yeah. the police. you can't get it right there either too— can't get it right there either too eott— can't get it right there either too eott on— can't get it right there either too soft or they— can't get it right there either too soft or they overreact ing. vow— too soft or they overreact ing. vow enw,— too soft or they overreact ing. you know, that's— too soft or they overreact ing. you know, that's that's, that's the— you know, that's that's, that's the tnowhte. — you know, that's that's, that's the trouble. my— you know, that's that's, that's the trouble. my father in law was an ex copper. you can't win. vow— was an ex copper. you can't win. vow een-t— was an ex copper. you can't win. vow een-twtn — was an ex copper. you can't win. you can't win. what- was an ex copper. you can't win. you can't win. t: g was an ex copper. you can't win. you can't win. t: t: you can't win. what did you think to that million marshall thing? it's a difficult one, ten-t— thing? it's a difficult one, ten-t ttt— thing? it's a difficult one, tent to t— thing? it's a difficult one, isn't it? i mean,- “q7 it's a difficult one, isn't it? i mean, the dogs were on e teee.— isn't it? i mean, the dogs were on e teet. t— isn't it? i mean, the dogs were on a lead. i think— isn't it? i mean, the dogs were on a lead. i think if the police hetn-t— on a lead. i think if the police hetn-t gone— on a lead. i think if the police hetn-t gone tn— on a lead. i think if the police hadn't gone in en— on a lead. i think if the police hadn't gone in en masse and there— hadn't gone in en masse and there-initially- hadn't gone in en masse and there initially they were there were initially they were tntttettw— there were initially they were initially _then l there were initially they were i initially _then the initially on leads and then the guy— initially on leads and then the guy-go— initially on leads and then the guy-g0 0f—

initially on leads and then the gww-go ot the— initially on leads and then the guy go of the dogs. e guy let go of the dogs. so it ett— guy let go of the dogs. so it ett gette— guy let go of the dogs. so it was all quite a— guy let go of the dogs. so it was all quite a very antagonistic kind of situation. lots of shouting, lots of bawling, surrounded by police, as i've just shown you there . as i've just shown you there. the police did have their guns pointed and there outrage pointed and there was outrage about this . there was a lot of about this. there was a lot of people that were deeply, deeply hurt by that, that were deeply saddened by the death of those two dogs. i know. and i know a lot of people that were saddened by well. i mean, it's by it as well. i mean, it's a wew— by it as well. i mean, it's a very difficult— e i mean, it's a very difficult situation because, you know, hard to because, you know, it's hard to know,— because, you know, it's hard to enw-enw,— because, you know, it's hard to know,-know, what- because, you know, it's hard to know, know, what was going know, you know, what was going on th— know, you know, what was going on tn the— know, you know, what was going on in the thick— know, you know, what was going on in the thick of— know, you know, what was going on in the thick of it. but you enw,— on in the thick of it. but you know, thet— on in the thick of it. but you know, that-case.- on in the thick of it. but you know, that-case. i. on in the thick of it. but you- know, that-case. i mean know, that was one case. i mean , know, that was one case. i mean t-clearlvt_ know, that was one case. i mean leteentw. the— know, that was one case. i mean ,-clearly, the other- know, that was one case. i mean , clearly, the other case , but clearly, the other case totew— , but clearly, the other case totew ee— , but clearly, the other case totew e— , but clearly, the other case today was a clear case of a dog eewetng— today was a clear case of a dog causing violence.— today was a clear case of a dog causing violence. this millions. ant— causing violence. this millions. and marshall,— causing violence. this millions. and marshall, i'm— causing violence. this millions. and marshall, i'm not sure that it and marshall, i'm not sure that tt ee— and marshall, i'm not sure that tt hwt— and marshall, i'm not sure that it was, but it's— and marshall, i'm not sure that it was, but it's one— and marshall, i'm not sure that it was, but it's one of the one of it was, but it's one of the one ot the— it was, but it's one of the one ot the moet— it was, but it's one of the one of the most scariest experiences of the most scariest experiences ot mw— of the most scariest experiences ot mw the.— of the most scariest experiences ot mw the. — of the most scariest experiences on mw the. t— of the most scariest experiences of my life. i will— of the most scariest experiences of my life. ii of the most scariest experiences of my life. cc g of my life. i will never forget it. when i was travelling in cambodia in vietnam, and i found myself in this national park, i'll speed the story up. i went the wrong way. it was near some kind of buddhist retreat or whatever it was. and these wild dogs came. i have never experienced fear like it in my

life. i thought it was going to be to death by dogs coming be eaten to death by dogs coming and no one would know where i was. no one would what had was. no one would know what had become me. frank says all become of me. frank says all dogs should be muzzled by law, and a jail sentence out and a jail sentence handed out to the rule. to anyone who breaks the rule. frank there will viewers frank there will be viewers getting now, getting in touch with me now, and they will be sending me their pictures of sweet their pictures of their sweet little all this little cockapoos and all this kind and even i am kind of stuff. and even i am quite frightened of dogs , even quite frightened of dogs, even when i see the viewers when i when i see the viewers dogs, i want to them and dogs, i want to pick them up and i cuddle them. and you i want to cuddle them. and you don't want those dogs don't want to muzzle those dogs when say old dogs, you don't when you say old dogs, you don't mean old dogs. or you? dogs mean old dogs. or do you? dogs are so important for— “ titt: 33 t:ti:t 7 dogs are so important for millions of eeoete— are so important for millions of eeoete ent— are so important for millions of eeoete ent moet— are so important for millions of people and most dogs are fine ent— people and most dogs are fine and-owners are- people and most dogs are fine- and-owners are amazing and most dog owners are amazing . ant— and most dog owners are amazing . ant the— and most dog owners are amazing . and like-issues— and most dog owners are amazing . and like-issues to- and most dog owners are amazing . and like issues to do . and like most issues to do wtth— . and like most issues to do wtth enme— . and like most issues to do with crime and— . and like most issues to do with crime and victims, it's the thw— with crime and victims, it's the ttnw mtnontw. — with crime and victims, it's the tiny minority. cor— with crime and victims, it's the tiny minority. cor blimey, lots of you getting your stories in about be bringing about dogs. i'll be bringing back some of those in two minutes. don't go anywhere .

hello there . i'm michelle hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me, kevin, craig and david curtain remain elizabeth on twitter has been in touch about the conversation about dangerous dogs. she says . about dangerous dogs. she says. and she's talking to michael and she's talking to frank, who've beenin she's talking to frank, who've been in touch with me saying that all dogs should be muzzled. she says. can you tell frank, how would he like to be muzzled all day long? i think a lot of the sentiment coming through is it's are the it's people that are the problem, not the dog, sue says. so people got dogs in so many people got dogs in lockdowns frankly , lockdowns and quite frankly, they don't know what on earth to do she's blaming it do with them. she's blaming it on someone else getting in on that. someone else getting in touch saying it's all about touch and saying it's all about chips licencing the chips and licencing and all the rest that would make some rest of it. that would make some of this go away or would it? i don't know. biden by the way, if you're sitting there thinking, where's sunak talking biden? where's sunak talking to biden? what's going on? it hasn't happened yet . they haven't taken happened yet. they haven't taken to stage due at 630.

to the stage was due at 630. they are running late. but i don't know whether or not biden is going to have his jacket. was it jacket? sunak gifted it a barber jacket? sunak gifted him barber jacket with it a barber jacket? sunak gifted him barberjacket with mr him a barberjacket with mr president on the back. that is, after all, a great gift for the man that's got everything. i don't think he'll wearing it don't think he'll be wearing it tonight, there you tonight, though, but there you go. at that. everyone who go. look at that. everyone who what's not to love you see what's not to love when you see a but yes, as you can a podium? but yes, as you can see, is sitting there see, everyone is sitting there excitedly awaiting the big excitedly awaiting the two big men. well one big one shot, but you know what i mean. anyway they not taken to the they have not yet taken to the stage. talk, shall we? stage. let's talk, shall we? speeding fines, think speeding fines, do you think that if you are rich and you get done for speeding, you should have to pay more over in finland? yes, they do. ,121,000 was the fine that was calculated for some guy just because he happened to be a multi—millionaire. fair or not, should we follow suit? i don't think it's should we follow suit? i don't thtnt tt-e gohg— should we follow suit? i don't think it's going to— should we follow suit? i don't think it's going to work- : 7 i don't think it's going to work in this oowntw— think it's going to work in this oowntw. t— think it's going to work in this country. i know— think it's going to work in this country. i know finland does it. think it's going to work in this cthinkj. i know finland does it. think it's going to work in this cthink norway’ finland does it. think it's going to work in this cthink norway and.and does it. think it's going to work in this cthink norway and switzerland i think norway and switzerland do i think norway and switzerland to tt— i think norway and switzerland to tt ent— i think norway and switzerland to tt ent tt— i think norway and switzerland do it and it works— i think norway and switzerland do it and it works well there. i theee-e— do it and it works well there. i mean, there's smaller countries. thew-ne— mean, there's smaller countries. thev're -wow — mean, there's smaller countries. thew-ne-wow-eeneeti they're more, you know, spread out they're more, you know, spread owt-eo— they're more, you know, spread owt-eo on— they're more, you know, spread out-so on with— they're more, you know, spread out so on with speeding out and so on with speeding ttnee. —

out and so on with speeding the _the- out and so on with speeding fines.-this is- out and so on with speeding fines. this is what they fines. i mean, this is what they went— fines. i mean, this is what they wentlto. — fines. i mean, this is what they wentlto. owt— fines. i mean, this is what they want-do. butidon't- fines. i mean, this is what they want do. but don't think want to do. but i don't think he— want to do. but i don't think we gohg— want to do. but i don't think it's going translate over it's going to translate over here— it's going to translate over here-wt— it's going to translate over here-wt wew- it's going to translate over here uk very well. and here to the uk very well. and whet— here to the uk very well. and whet t— here to the uk very well. and what i-concerned- here to the uk very well. and. what i-concerned-this here to the uk very well. and withat concerned this here to the uk very well. and withat in concerned this here to the uk very well. and withat in those arned this here to the uk very well. and withat in those countries this here to the uk very well. and withat in those countries theiis is that in those countries the eottoe— is that in those countries the eottee newe— is that in those countries the police have access to your income on public database. and i ton-t— income on public database. and i ton-t-thet-e— income on public database. and i don't-that's going- income on public database. and i don't that's going to work don't think that's going to work in don't think that's going to work tn the— don't think that's going to work tn the ttt.— don't think that's going to work tn the wt. t— don't think that's going to work in the uk. i don't— don't think that's going to work in the uk. i don't think people whtt— in the uk. i don't think people wttt eoeeet— in the uk. i don't think people will accept everyone to will accept everyone having to teetene— will accept everyone having to declare their— will accept everyone having to declare their income so that the eottee— declare their income so that the eottee een— declare their income so that the police can then— declare their income so that the police can then access it and the— police can then access it and the wow— police can then access it and find you different amounts. if eeeontng— find you different amounts. if eeoonttng to— find you different amounts. if according to your— find you different amounts. if according to your income here. wett— according to your income here. wett. ween.— according to your income here. wett yeaht thew— according to your income here. well, yeah, they are— according to your income here. well, yeah, they are very- well, yeah, they are very transparent about their earnings, their tax returns and things like that. what do you make well, i couldn't make to it? well, i couldn't tteegnee— make to it? well, i couldn't disagree more— make to it? well, i couldn't disagree more with- .7’ well, i couldn't disagree more with what david's just disagree more with what david's twet eew— disagree more with what david's twet eew theee.— disagree more with what david's just say there, because what newt-e— just say there, because what newt-e twet— just say there, because what david's just said— just say there, because what david's just said because david's just said rather because theee— david's just said rather because theee eeeettng— david's just said rather because these speeding fines don't bother— these speeding fines don't hothen the— these speeding fines don't bother the rich. right. it's the— bother the rich. right. it's like football— bother the rich. right. it's like football owners, when they get thet — like football owners, when they get thet tete— like football owners, when they get fined late for— like football owners, when they get fined late for training . get fined late for training. he— get fined late for training. we not— get fined late for training. we not e— get fined late for training. it's not a tenner. it's linked to then— it's not a tenner. it's linked to their wages.— it's not a tenner. it's linked to their wages. and this is neettw— to their wages. and this is neettw gooe— to their wages. and this is really good policy this because whet— really good policy this because whet heeeene— really good policy this because what happens is— really good policy this because what happens is you get people who— what happens is you get people who ee— what happens is you get people who wett— what happens is you get people who are well off— what happens is you get people who are well off who don't give a who are well off who don't give e montewe— who are well off who don't give e montewe how— who are well off who don't give a monkeys how many parking ttetete— a monkeys how many parking ttetete thew— a monkeys how many parking tickets they get— a monkeys how many parking tickets they get or how many eeeettng— tickets they get or how many eeeettng-thew- tickets they get or how manyi speeding-they-but speeding tickets they get. but how—how- speeding tickets they get. but how_ how would i speeding tickets they get. but. how—how would you speeding tickets they get. but- how_how would you get how would they how would you get the—then- the income to be known then thet-e— the income to be known then thet-e neettw— the income to be known then that's really easy— the income to be known then

that's really easy because the etete—tnowe- that's really easy because the state - knows all - that's really easy because the state knows all our state in theory knows all our enwwew— state in theory knows all our income anyway. okay. and income anyway. okay, okay. and it income anyway. okay, okay. and tt-wow— income anyway. okay, okay. and tt-wow get— income anyway. okay, okay. and tt-wow get wow- income anyway. okay, okay. and it you get your penalty it can be you get your penalty ent— it can be you get your penalty ent-etete— it can be you get your penalty and-state can- it can be you get your penalty and state can find out. and then the state can find out. ant— and then the state can find out. ant theee— and then the state can find out. ant thene ee— and then the state can find out. and there are people, i believe our erstwhile— and there are people, i believe our erstwhile prime minister, mr tohneon— our erstwhile prime minister, mr tohneon eteo— our erstwhile prime minister, mr johnson, also has— our erstwhile prime minister, mr johnson, also has problem with johnson, also has a problem with eetttng— johnson, also has a problem with parking ttetete— johnson, also has a problem with parking tickets and— johnson, also has a problem with parking tickets and is well known— parking tickets and is well known-ht.— parking tickets and is well known it. right people known for it. right and people are known for it. right and people ene-tettng— known for it. right and people ene-tettng tt— known for it. right and people are taking it seriously. why are not taking it seriously. why ehowtt— are not taking it seriously. why should lworking_ are not taking it seriously. why should working person in should a working class person in shetttett.— should a working class person in ehwheht—.- should a working class person in sheffield,_, have. should a working class person in sheffield,_, have to| sheffield, for example, have to pay a — sheffield, for example, have to eew e thee— sheffield, for example, have to pay a fine? that's— sheffield, for example, have to pay a fine? that's totally disproportionate to their home— disproportionate to their income? well, i'm very income? so well, i'm very tteeeeotntet— income? so well, i'm very disappointed with david. i'm eetetwt— disappointed with david. i'm careful with— disappointed with david. i'm careful with speeding. - disappointed with david. i'm careful with speeding. it's very disappointing for you. yeah, well, i'm not. i'm not surprised. but, you know, you would maybe sitting on that would be maybe sitting on that side show . but i would be maybe sitting on that side show. but i think side of the show. but i think what you're saying it sounds what you're saying is it sounds good it sounds like to some good and it sounds like to some people, well, this will be people, oh, well, this will be a great thing. you can find the rich more, but then that will lead to more state interference in our lives and more control over us and our data. and i don't want that. so this is going to lead to something that is really not good for society. see, this thing about the state right in our lives now, i don't

know much about the heritage party. ido know much about the heritage party. i do know, for example, thet— party. i do know, for example, thet t— party. i do know, for example, thet t toot— party. i do know, for example, that i look today— i do know, for example, that i look today very, very eott— that i look today very, very eott on— that i look today very, very eott on the— that i look today very, very soft on the on— that i look today very, very soft on the on the war in whetne. — soft on the on the war in ukraine. and- soft on the on the war in ukraine. ' “t: oily soft on the on the war in ukraine. ' “t: ukraine. and absolutely, we shouldn't be going to war in ukraine. okay so that shows neettw— ukraine. okay so that shows neettw tt-e— ukraine. okay so that shows really it's like— ukraine. okay so that shows really it's like this- so that shows really it's like this policy ehowt— really it's like this policy ehowt the— really it's like this policy about the state interfering. tt-e— about the state interfering. tt-e ehowt— about the state interfering. it's about fairness. this eoetetw— it's about fairness. this eootetw te— it's about fairness. this society is not- it's about fairness. this society is not fair. the rich getttng— society is not fair. the rich are getting away with fines that thew— are getting away with fines that thew ton-t— are getting away with fines that thew ton-t eene— are getting away with fines that they don't care about. let's eon— they don't care about. let's eon tt— they don't care about. let's eon tt owt. — they don't care about. let's sort it out. you- they don't care about. let's sort it out. ti/ttte. they don't care about. let's sort it out. 411. they don't care about. let's sort it out. /ti1. sort it out. you say about state control, by the way, did anyone did you know that there was a consultation running about a digital currency central bank, digital currency central bank, digital currency central bank, digital currency from the bank of ? i did. i think i saw of england? i did. i think i saw that. of england? i did. i think i saw thet. ween.— of england? i did. i think i saw that. yeah. did— of england? i did. i think i saw that. yeah. did you— of england? i did. i think i saw that. yeah. did you know- 3:7 t: t: ithink i saw that. yeah. did you know that? vee- — that. yeah. did you know that? hee. hee.— that. yeah. did you know that? hee. hee. t— that. yeah. did you know that? yes. yes, i do. see,— that. yeah. did you know that? yes. yes, i do. see, did- that. yeah. did you know that? “tit; “tit; t:tit see, did you yes. yes, i do. see, did you know— yes. yes, i do. see, did you know thet— yes. yes, i do. see, did you know that at— yes. yes, i do. see, did you know that at home?- “tit; “tit; t:tit see, did you know that at home? because i thtnt— know that at home? because i thtnt menw— know that at home? because i thtnt menw ot— know that at home? because i think many of you didn't. so when— think many of you didn't. so when wow— think many of you didn't. so when you talk— think many of you didn't. so when you talk about control and thtnge— when you talk about control and thtnge the— when you talk about control and things like that,— when you talk about control and things like that, i— when you talk about control and things like that, i think theee-e— things like that, i think there'slfew- things like that, i think there's few steps these days there's a few steps these days going—direction. going in the wrong direction heeewee— going in the wrong direction because-careful- going in the wrong direction because careful what you because be careful what you wish for. because be careful what you wish tonlwee— because be careful what you wish tonlwee-the— because be careful what you wish for..was-the other- because be careful what you wish for. was the other day for. it was only the other day it for. it was only the other day tt-tetttng— for. it was only the other day it-talking about- for. it was only the other day it talking about free money, it was talking about free money, theee— it was talking about free money, ateoo e— it was talking about free money, £1,600 a month.— it was talking about free money, £1,600 a month. careful if you went—the- £1,600 a month. careful if you want—the next. want that, because the next step wttt— want that, because the next step wttt-wttt— want that, because the next step wttt-wttt he— want that, because the next step will-will be digital- will be it will be digital currency controlled by the bank. hettewee— currency controlled by the bank. hettewee-wowng— currency controlled by the bank. believes .young-you- currency controlled by the bank. | believes .young-you tore believes that young man you tore him up on gmb, didn't you? he

didn't was doing didn't know what he was doing there, he should said there, what he should have said to you that, you know, to you was that, you know, sometimes universal income to you was that, you know, somet work universal income to you was that, you know, somet work and iversal income to you was that, you know, somet work and itzrsal income to you was that, you know, somet work and it will income to you was that, you know, somet work and it will get)me might work and it will get funded savings elsewhere. funded by tax savings elsewhere. well, then he should to well, then he should learn to answer—properly. well, then he should learn to- answer_properly then. answer a question properly then. wett— answer a question properly then. wet-thtng— answer a question properly then. well,-hiding under- answer a question properly then. well,-hiding under the- well, he's hiding under the carpet now. well yeah, he didn't. he's not actually. i've eetet— didn't. he's not actually. i've eetet htm— didn't. he's not actually. i've asked him to— didn't. he's not actually. i've asked him to come- t: t: 1“ . he's not actually. i've asked him to come on and debate me-wente— asked him to come on and debate me-wente to— asked him to come on and debate me-wants to about- me if he wants to about wneeet— me if he wants to about universal basic me if he wants to about. universal basic-he me if he wants to about- universal basic-he said universal basic income. he said he wttt— universal basic income. he said he wttt-we— universal basic income. he said he will..we shall— universal basic income. he said he will. we shall see whether he will. so we shall see whether or he will. so we shall see whether on-eetwettw— he will. so we shall see whether or- actually does. - he will. so we shall see whether or actually does. yeah, or not he actually does. yeah, hwt— or not he actually does. yeah, owt—get— or not he actually does. yeah, hwt—get me- or not he actually does. yeah,| but—get me started or not he actually does. yeah,- but_get me started on but don't even get me started on thet.— but don't even get me started on thet—noton- but don't even get me started on that._notion of- but don't even get me started on that._notion of free. that. this whole notion of free monew— that. this whole notion of free monewleen-t— that. this whole notion of free money, can't believe that money, i can't even believe that eeoete— money, i can't even believe that eeoete-teem— money, i can't even believe that people-learn their- people didn't learn their teeeone— people didn't learn their lessons during the whole covid ent—wow- lessons during the whole covid ent—wow ett- lessons during the whole covidi and _you sit there and furlough when you sit there and furlough when you sit there gag—g,— and furlough when you sit there gag—g, we- and furlough when you sit there and—it, we trialled. and go, we did it, we trialled ugh— and go, we did it, we trialled ubi,-different- and go, we did it, we trialled ubi, different course, ubi, very different of course, how— ubi, very different of course, owt-the— ubi, very different of course, but-the mess- ubi, very different of course, but the mess that that's but look at the mess that that's gotltnto. — but look at the mess that that's got-into. really— but look at the mess that that's got into. really want to got us into. really want to tatehet. — got us into. really want to michel. but— got us into. really want to michel. it; michel. but those of us who think, you know, you always say that covid oh, look almost that about covid oh, look almost at part. covidi that about covid oh, look almost at part. covid i will never at that part. covid i will never etoe—enow- at that part. covid i will never stop—about covm. at that part. covid i will never stop—about covm itj stop saying that about covid it is stop saying that about covid it teem-— stop saying that about covid it te-melgo— stop saying that about covid it is-melgo though,- is time for me to go though, heoewee— is time for me to go though, heoewee-et— is time for me to go though, because-at the- is time for me to go though, because at the time you'll because look at the time you'll newe— because look at the time you'll hewe to— because look at the time you'll hewe to note— because look at the time you'll have to hold that— because look at the time you'll have to hold that disappointment in have to hold that disappointment tn-enothen— have to hold that disappointment tn-enothen tew— in me for another day. we can then— in me for another day. we can thneehlowt. — in me for another day. we can thneehlowt. t— in me for another day. we can thrashlout. i will- in me for another day. we can thrash out. i will never thrash it out. i will never egnee— thrash it out. i will never egnee wtth— thrash it out. i will never agree with you- thrash it out. i will never agree with you on that topic. at..— agree with you on that topic. on. the— agree with you on that topic. uh, the reaction— agree with you on that topic. uh, the reaction to covid was the—got- uh, the reaction to covid was the—got we- uh, the reaction to covid was the—got us into. the thing that's got us into the— the thing that's got us into the-thet- the thing that's got us into this-that we- the thing that's got us into this-that we are.

the thing that's got us into this that we are all this situation that we are all teettng— this situation that we are all teettng wtth— this situation that we are all dealing with now. so much of it do dealing with now. so much of it tho-even— dealing with now. so much of it to-ewen-me— dealing with now. so much of it do-even-me started- do not even get me started on thet.— do not even get me started on thet—eowttl that. actually, i wish i could tett— that. actually, i wish i could tett wtget— that. actually, i wish i could tell nigel farage should press eewee— tell nigel farage should press eewee eo— tell nigel farage should press eewee eo t— tell nigel farage should press pause so i could— tell nigel farage should press pause so i could get off and newe— pause so i could get off and hewelnent— pause so i could get off and havelrant, but— pause so i could get off and have rant, but unfortunately, have a rant, but unfortunately, i have a rant, but unfortunately, t-he-e— have a rant, but unfortunately, t-he-e eomtng- have a rant, but unfortunately, t-he-e eomtng we.- have a rant, but unfortunately, i he's coming up. he's ican't. he's coming up. he's got— ican't. he's coming up. he's got-he— ican't. he's coming up. he's got-he wente- ican't. he's coming up. he's got-he wants to- i can't. he's coming up. he's got he wants to say to you got a lot he wants to say to you guys-— got a lot he wants to say to you gwwe. so— got a lot he wants to say to you gwwe. solnow.— got a lot he wants to say to you guys. so now, thank you, guys. so for now, thank you, gente. — guys. so for now, thank you, gentelwow— guys. so for now, thank you, gents, your company. gents, for your company. thank wow.— gents, for your company. thank wow. at— gents, for your company. thank wow. at home. — gents, for your company. thank you. at home. have a wonderful ewentng. — you. at home. have a wonderful ewentng. hon-t— you. at home. have a wonderful ewentng. wont go— you. at home. have a wonderful evening. don't go anywhere. wtget-e— nigel's next and i'll see you tomonow - — nigel's next and i'll see you tomorrow. - it's- nigel's next and i'll see you tomorrow. ' tit?“ tomorrow. hello it's aidan mcgivern here the news mcgivern here with the gb news forecast the forecast brought to you by the met office. dry for most of us dunng met office. dry for most of us during the next 24 hours. but change on the way. change is on the way. increasingly humid, increasingly warm and humid, hot for saturday. but with for some by saturday. but with the threat of showers and thunderstorms well, low thunderstorms as well, low pressure little pressure is edging a little closer to the uk. no major changes, but what happens is the winds to see winds via we're going to see a more southerly component to the wind and that's going wind direction and that's going to bring more humid air. but also higher temperatures also those higher temperatures and risk showers initially and risk of showers initially see some showers, mostly light showers affecting cornwall through the night's cloudy skies here. and it's going to feel warmer compared with recent nights, 14 celsius a marked contrast with elsewhere cool nights come once again and

chilly for parts of scotland down to zero degrees in some sheltered spots. but sunshine in western scotland , northern western scotland, northern ireland, western parts of the uk. first thing any low cloud around in morning once again around in the morning once again retreats and retreats back to the coast and really it lingers around the coast into the coast and again into the afternoon , keeping things much afternoon, keeping things much cooler close to the north sea compared with elsewhere. and it is warming up 2627 celsius towards central southern england. but with this medium level cloud and some light showers affecting cornwall through the day, pushing into devon by friday evening and these showers will be on and off, mostly light at first, but as we go into the weekend , well, as we go into the weekend, well, the signs are that we're going to see some thunderstorms developing initially from the southwest and then later across central parts. but a marked contrast with the overnight temperatures, 16, 17 celsius towards the south—west as we start off saturday, still a cool feel elsewhere across the uk and some low cloud again , first some low cloud again, first thing that low cloud restricted to eastern scotland, north—east england on saturday day. lots of

sunshine elsewhere but with much higher temperatures for central and eastern parts. and as those temperatures rise, that risk of thunderstorms, especially through the midlands, wales and southern england .

it's thursday night and this is farage. at 1:00 from burton upon tnent. — farage. at 1:00 from burton upon tnent. hteeee— farage. at 1:00 from burton upon trent. please welcome- 3 at 1:00 from burton upon trent. i , farage. at 1:00 from burton upon trent. please welcome your host, nigel farage. yes we're in burton upon trent, the home of brewing, the home of burton albion football club, a conservative seat with a big majority. but they did badly in the local elections. lots to talk about locally. -

i i lots to talk about locally. : the local elections. lots to talk about locally. sad story