else? do you make something else? what do you make to the whole list? and. nadine dorries the rest of it, and dorries and the rest of it, and according to a major report, time is running out it time is running out when it comes to restoring public trust in police . is it do you in the police. is it do you trust the police? if not, why not? and what would make you trust them again? also, a campaign has been launched. get this, everybody . it's calling this, everybody. it's calling for people to be able to pay their mortgages. did wrecked from their salary before for tax rate dodi are you shouting at the screen going yes, great idea, isn't it a little bit unfair? you tell me. and should you be able to go to a pub naked and be served? yes or no? it's not illegal, but should it be also at this weekend , a heatwave also at this weekend, a heatwave is coming . lots of warnings as is coming. lots of warnings as well. also coming. should there be or is it a nanny state gone mad? and i'll also be talking to jacob rees—mogg, soon to be sir jacob, about his knighthood in bods jacob, about his knighthood in boris johnson's list. what do

you make to that? we'll have it all and more. but first, let's get ourselves up to speed with the . news it's 601. here are the. news it's 601. here are your— the. news it's 601. here are yourtop— the. news it's 601. here are your top stories— \ it's 601. here are your top stories from the newsroom boris johnson's resignation— newsroom boris johnson's resignation honours list has been— resignation honours list has been published. and on it, our close— been published. and on it, our close awes— been published. and on it, our close allies of— been published. and on it, our close allies of the— been published. and on it, our close allies of the former prime minister— close allies of the former prime minister priti_ close allies of the former prime minister priti patel, the former home— minister priti patel, the former home secretary— minister priti patel, the former home secretary receives a damehood— home secretary receives a damehood former business secretary— damehood former business secretary and— damehood former business secretary and gb news presenter jacob— secretary and gb news presenter jacob rees-m099— secretary and gb news presenter jacob rees—mogg receives a knighthood.— jacob rees—mogg receives a knighthood. sean bailey , a knighthood. sean bailey, a london— knighthood. sean bailey, a london assembly member and former— london assembly member and former mayoral— london assembly member and former mayoral candidate, has been— former mayoral candidate, has been handed— former mayoral candidate, has been handed a— former mayoral candidate, has been handed a peerage and will sn— been handed a peerage and will sit in— been handed a peerage and will now sit in the— been handed a peerage and will now sit in the house of lords. conservative— now sit in the house of lords. conservative mps_ now sit in the house of lords. conservative mps conor burns and michael— conservative mps conor burns and michael fabricant_ conservative mps conor burns and michael fabricant also receive a knighthood— michael fabricant also receive a knighthood .— michael fabricant also receive a knighthood . deputy labour leader knighthood. deputy labour leader angelo— knighthood. deputy labour leader angelo raynor— knighthood. deputy labour leader angela rayner has— knighthood. deputy labour leader angela rayner has criticised the list ,_ angela rayner has criticised the not , calling— angela rayner has criticised the list , calling it— angela rayner has criticised the list , calling it a— angela rayner has criticised the list, calling it a sickening moun— list, calling it a sickening intuit ont— list, calling it a sickening insult and ill— list, calling it a sickening insult and ill judged well, tnoto— insult and ill judged well, tnoso not— insult and ill judged well, those not on— insult and ill judged well, those not on the list include tormen— those not on the list include former minister— those not on the list include former minister nadine dorries ont—

former minister nadine dorries ont inst— former minister nadine dorries ont inet on— former minister nadine dorries ont tnet on non— former minister nadine dorries and just an hour before it was ontiienet— and just an hour before it was outiienet ,— and just an hour before it was published , she— and just an hour before it was published , she announced she was published, she announced she was stepping— published, she announced she was stepping tonn— published, she announced she was stepping down with— published, she announced she was stepping down with immediate etteet— stepping down with immediate etteet os— stepping down with immediate etteet as on— stepping down with immediate effect as an mp.— stepping down with immediate effect as an mp. in a statement on time.— effect as an mp. in a statement on twitter, she— effect as an mp. in a statement on twitter, she said— effect as an mp. in a statement on twitter, she said she was stoning— on twitter, she said she was standing down— on twitter, she said she was standing down as the representative for mid bedfordshire . she said it had bedfordshire. she said it had teen— bedfordshire. she said it had teen on— bedfordshire. she said it had been an honour— bedfordshire. she said it had been an honour to serve her constituency,— been an honour to serve her constituency, but— been an honour to serve her constituency, but it was time for someone younger to take the eins— for someone younger to take the . tnenen— for someone younger to take the reins . french president for someone younger to take the reins. french president emmanuel iioeon— reins. french president emmanuel iioeon nos— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been to— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been to the town of anneey— macron has been to the town of anneey o— macron has been to the town of anneey o toy— macron has been to the town of annecy a day after— macron has been to the town of annecy a day after a knife attest— annecy a day after a knife attack took— annecy a day after a knife attack took place in a playground-- attack took place in a playground. earlier he met victims— playground. earlier he met vietins ot— playground. earlier he met victims of the— playground. earlier he met victims of the attack being treated— victims of the attack being tneotet in— victims of the attack being treated in hospital, including an treated in hospital, including on int-unet— treated in hospital, including an injured british girl. three year— an injured british girl. three year ott— an injured british girl. three yen oit ttty— an injured british girl. three year old etty was one of four tottiens— year old etty was one of four toddlers stabbed— year old etty was one of four toddlers stabbed . she is now toddlers stabbed. she is now stit— toddlers stabbed. she is now said to— toddlers stabbed. she is now said to te— toddlers stabbed. she is now said to be in— toddlers stabbed. she is now said to be in a— toddlers stabbed. she is now said to be in a stable condition in tne— said to be in a stable condition in tne city-s— said to be in a stable condition in the city's mayor— said to be in a stable condition in the city's mayor says he's eontitent— in the city's mayor says he's confident about— in the city's mayor says he's confident about the condition of the confident about the condition of tne otnen— confident about the condition of the other three _ confident about the condition of the other three children to otnits— the other three children to adults were— the other three children to adults were also injured. the tnitenon— adults were also injured. the tnitenon o— adults were also injured. the knifeman, a syrian refugee ,. had knifeman, a syrian refugee,. had teen— knifeman, a syrian refugee,. had teen teniet— knifeman, a syrian refugee,. had been denied asylum in the country— been denied asylum in the country inst— been denied asylum in the country just days before the attest. — country just days before the attack. macron— country just days before the attack. macron has praised the ettons— attack. macron has praised the ettonts ot— attack. macron has praised the efforts of the— attack. macron has praised the efforts of the emergency responders— efforts of the emergency responders ._ efforts of the emergency responders . first to the scene responders. first to the scene at tne— responders. first to the scene

at the playground . as president at the playground. as president . i— at the playground. as president . i on— at the playground. as president . i on ten— at the playground. as president . i am very proud— at the playground. as president . i am very proud of- at the playground. as president . i am very proud of you, very proud of what has been done by fellow citizens who just happened to be there. very proud of the place and the role that everyone played and yours and ours . you did your duty , but as ours. you did your duty, but as you did your duty , you you did your duty, you accomplished even more . and i am accomplished even more. and i am extremely proud back here. the prime minister says he- �*if/kcfliimiicg "iii; the prime minister says he wants the tonn— prime minister says he wants the tonn ot— prime minister says he wants the north of england— prime minister says he wants the north of england to be at the neon— north of england to be at the neon ot— north of england to be at the heart of economic growth in the country— heart of economic growth in the country .— heart of economic growth in the country . addressing the northern country. addressing the northern iteseonen— country. addressing the northern iteseonen group— country. addressing the northern research group conference in noneosten— research group conference in noneosten ,— research group conference in doncaster , rishi _ research group conference in doncaster , rishi sunak said doncaster, rishi sunak said tnene-s— doncaster, rishi sunak said tnene-s no— doncaster, rishi sunak said there's no route— doncaster, rishi sunak said there's no route to success at tne— there's no route to success at tne next— there's no route to success at the next election— there's no route to success at the next election without the toitn. — the next election without the toitn. ne— the next election without the north. he also— the next election without the north. he also took aim at sir neit— north. he also took aim at sir keir starmer,_ north. he also took aim at sir keir starmer, warning the conference that a labour government— conference that a labour government under who he called sir government under who he called sin sott— government under who he called sir soft would _ government under who he called sir soft would be— government under who he called sir soft would be a— government under who he called sir soft would be a disaster for tott— sir soft would be a disaster for totn nntoin— sir soft would be a disaster for both britain and— sir soft would be a disaster for both britain and the north. intittion— both britain and the north. inflation remains— both britain and the north. inflation remains the- both britain and the north. inflation remains the single most important and effective

policy goal to help people with the cost of living and sustainable increase living standards . sustainable increase living standards. now sustainable increase living standards . now we've averted the standards. now we've averted the predicted recession, but my ambition goes far beyond that . ambition goes far beyond that. we need to grow the economy, and i want the north to be at the heart of our economic growth. we will use our post—brexit freedoms to create the most pro—innovation and pro—enterprise regulatory system on earth . two lawyers defending on earth. two lawyers defending nonoit— on earth. two lawyers defending nonoit trump— on earth. two lawyers defending donald trump have— iii" two lawyers defending donald trump have resigned after the donald trump have resigned after tne tonnnen— donald trump have resigned after tne tonne tis— donald trump have resigned after the former us president was indicted— the former us president was intietet on— the former us president was indicted on charges of retaining eiossitiet— indicted on charges of retaining classified documents at his tionito— classified documents at his florida estate— classified documents at his florida estate ._ classified documents at his florida estate . walt nought, florida estate. walt nought, a tonne— florida estate. walt nought, a tonne tite— florida estate. walt nought, a former aide to— florida estate. walt nought, a former aide to president trump, has former aide to president trump, nos oiso— former aide to president trump, nos oiso teen— former aide to president trump, has also been indicted. this is tne— has also been indicted. this is tne seont— has also been indicted. this is the second time— has also been indicted. this is the second time trump has been intietet. — the second time trump has been intietet. ne-s— the second time trump has been indicted. he's the— the second time trump has been indicted. he's the first former us indicted. he's the first former tis onesitent— indicted. he's the first former us president to _ indicted. he's the first former us president to face criminal enonoes— us president to face criminal states on— us president to face criminal enonoes on o— us president to face criminal charges on a federal level, posting— charges on a federal level, posting on— charges on a federal level, posting on his— charges on a federal level, posting on his social media piottonn. — posting on his social media platform. truth— posting on his social media platform. truth social trump has oeenset— platform. truth social trump has eenset tne— platform. truth social trump has accused the government of eteetion — accused the government of election interference. he's eonnoionino— election interference. he's campaigning to make a return to

the campaigning to make a return to tne wnite— campaigning to make a return to the white house— campaigning to make a return to the white house in— campaigning to make a return to the white house in 2024 for our eonntny— the white house in 2024 for our eonntny . — the white house in 2024 for our eonntny . ne— the white house in 2024 for our eonntny . no is— the white house in 2024 for our country . he is going- the white house in 2024 for our country . gist g the white house in 2024 for our country. gift 9 the white house in 2024 for our country . gift 9 country. he is going to hell and they come after donald trump weaponize using the justice department , weaponize using the justice department, weaponizing weaponize using the justice department , weaponizing the weaponize using the justice department, weaponizing the fbi. we can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds . we have such country to shreds. we have such big problems and this shouldn't be one of them. it's a hoax. it's shadow minister bambos charalambous has been suspended as a labour mp after a complaint about his conduct . he says he about his conduct. he says he will cooperate— about his conduct. he says he will cooperate fully— " he says he will cooperate fully with the investigation _ will cooperate fully with the investigation into the allegation. - investigation into the allegation. the enfield sontnoote— allegation. the enfield southgate mp tweeted it's right and none— southgate mp tweeted it's right end proper tnot— southgate mp tweeted it's right and proper that process is ottonet— and proper that process is ottonet to— and proper that process is allowed to take place. labour nos— allowed to take place. labour nos yet— allowed to take place. labour nos yet to— allowed to take place. labour has yet to comment . meanwhile, has yet to comment. meanwhile, snoton— has yet to comment. meanwhile, shadow chancellor— has yet to comment. meanwhile, shadow chancellor rachel reeves has abandoned— shadow chancellor rachel reeves has abandoned labour's commitment— has abandoned labour's commitment to spending £28 tiiiion— commitment to spending £28 tiiiion o— commitment to spending £28 billion a year— commitment to spending £28 billion a year on— commitment to spending £28 billion a year on a green inosoenity— billion a year on a green prosperity plan. instead she soys— prosperity plan. instead she soys tne— prosperity plan. instead she soys, tne pony— prosperity plan. instead she says, the party will gradually increase spending over the course of parliament. ms reeves

explained— course of parliament. ms reeves explained economic circumstances nove— explained economic circumstances nove enonoet— explained economic circumstances have changed since— explained economic circumstances have changed since the announcement two years ago, sonne— announcement two years ago, soying iotonn— announcement two years ago, saying labour now wants to eonnit— saying labour now wants to eonnit to— saying labour now wants to commit to spending only what's needed— commit to spending only what's neetet .— commit to spending only what's neetet . iv— commit to spending only what's needed . tv online_ commit to spending only what's needed . tv online , dab+ radio needed. tv online, dab+ radio ont— needed. tv online, dab+ radio ont on— needed. tv online, dab+ radio ont on tnne— needed. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in.— needed. tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now— and on tune in. this is gb news. now toen— and on tune in. this is gb news. now toet oe— and on tune in. this is gb news. now back over to— and on tune in. this is gb news. now back over to ._ now back over to. michelle neiio— now back over to. michelle hello there. _ now back over to. michelle hello there. happy friday. iiieneite— hello there. happy friday. michelle dewberry- hello there. happy friday. michelle dewberry keeping you company till 7:00 tonight alongside with the author and trade unionist paul embery and the direct uk director of the common sense society, emma webb. good evening. good to be here with you. i like the sound of that. the common sense society. we all need one of those, don't we? we need a bit of it. we do. you can tell me all about that in the break. that is severely lacking. i would say, this lacking. i would say, in this country moment. that i'd country at the moment. that i'd say sense. in say is common sense. get in touch with me tonight. what is on tonight? views

on your mind tonight? gb views gb news dot com or you can tweet me news. well if you've me at gb news. well if you've been sitting there, will it weren't it it shouldn't weren't it should it shouldn't it. sitting going around in circles about circles in your own mind about bofis circles in your own mind about boris johnson's honours list. well answers now well we've got the answers now haven't we. yes he has got one. yes, to be honoured. yes, it is going to be honoured. i think there's about 38 people on there and there's been quite a of controversy around it. a lot of controversy around it. so has least because. so it has not least because. nadine dorries was lots of nadine dorries there was lots of conversations about whether or not she should there, not she should be on there, whether not she would be whether or not she would be in the house lords, and should the house of lords, and should she been anyway, all of she have been anyway, all of that avail because she that was to no avail because she wasn't even on list. she wasn't even on the list. she stepped down with immediate effect. about an hour effect. so she did about an hour or list came out, or so before the list came out, which i found absolutely fascinating . apparently, there's fascinating. apparently, there's been kind interfere since been no kind of interfere since from rishi sunak when it comes to who is on the list and who isn't. emma, your thoughts? i think i know that there was some doubt about whether boris johnson even allowed johnson should even be allowed to honours list. i think to have an honours list. i think it would have been— a" l i think it would have been absurd if net— it would have been absurd if no teen— it would have been absurd if he'd been denied it as all prime iiinistens— he'd been denied it as all prime iiinistens oe— he'd been denied it as all prime ministers are able— he'd been denied it as all prime ministers are able to create an

nononns— ministers are able to create an nononns-tite— ministers are able to create an honours-like this. - honours list like this. i tnonont— honours list like this. i thought-very. honours list like this. i- thought-very interesting thought it was very interesting witn— thought it was very interesting with-dorries- thought it was very interesting with dorries because as i with nadine dorries because as i seemed— with nadine dorries because as i seenetlnony— with nadine dorries because as i seemed many previous seemed on many previous occasions,_tol seemed on many previous. occasions,_to very occasions, she seems to very nnen—nen- occasions, she seems to very nnen—nen onnl occasions, she seems to very. much—her own game occasions, she seems to very- much_her own game . much be playing her own game. totine— much be playing her own game. tonne-nn— much be playing her own game. totine-nn to- much be playing her own game. nadine up to nadine nadine dorries is up to nadine nonies— nadine dorries is up to nadine dorries-business,— nadine dorries is up to nadine dorries business, and so her dorries is business, and so her teeision— dorries is business, and so her teeision to— dorries is business, and so her decision to resign— dorries is business, and so her decision to resign essentially so-oet— decision to resign essentially so-oet tne- decision to resign essentially so get the peerage decision to resign essentially. so-get the peerage is so she could get the peerage is one— so she could get the peerage is not it— so she could get the peerage is what it looks— so she could get the peerage is what it looks like _ so she could get the peerage is what it looks like and therefore tniooenino— what it looks like and therefore tniooening o— what it looks like and therefore triggering a by—election and noting— triggering a by—election and throwing-chaos- triggering a by—election and throwing chaos in the throwing more chaos in the tineetion— throwing more chaos in the direction of— throwing more chaos in the direction of rishi sunak so you tnint— direction of rishi sunak so you tnint sne— direction of rishi sunak so you think she resigned because she tnonont— think she resigned because she tnonont sne— think she resigned because she thought she was— think she resigned because she thought she was in line for a peerage?— thought she was in line for a peerage? farage_ thought she was in line for a peerage? farage i that's how it toots— peerage? farage i that's how it toots .— peerage? farage i that's how it toots . ves— peerage? farage i that's how it toots . yes. i— peerage? farage i that's how it looks . yes. i mean, i can't looks. yes. i mean, i can't i eon-t— looks. yes. i mean, i can't i eon-t te— looks. yes. i mean, i can't i can't be totally— looks. yes. i mean, i can't i can't be totally sure of that. its— can't be totally sure of that. it's completely— can't be totally sure of that. it's completely the- can't be totally sure of that. it's completely the opposite to me. it looks like to me it was apparent that she suddenly wasn't going to be on that list for reason . and she. for whatever reason. and she. this my idea. i'm not stating this is my idea. i'm not stating any facts. i'm just giving my opinion. it looks like opinion. to me, it looks like she's chucked her kind toys she's chucked her kind of toys out pram, gone in a bit out of the pram, gone in a bit of and kind of said, of a mood, and kind of said, right, i'll show him. i will get out of the way. trigger a by—election and cause ructions for think. i she for sunak i think. i mean, she was she was a boris- i mean, she was she was a boris johnson ioyoiist— was she was a boris johnson loyalist, right?— was she was a boris johnson loyalist, right? and she's oinoys— loyalist, right? and she's. always-outspoken always been very outspoken about not.— always been very outspoken about ttot-tnint—

always been very outspoken about that-think the— always been very outspoken about that-think the fact- always been very outspoken about that. think the fact that that. and i think the fact that tnene— that. and i think the fact that tnene os— that. and i think the fact that tnene o— that. and i think the fact that there was a question mark over nnetnen— there was a question mark over nnetne o— there was a question mark over nnetne o-iin- there was a question mark over whether a mp could whether a sitting mp could teeone— whether a sitting mp could become-could- whether a sitting mp could become could could get become or could could get a oeenooe— become or could could get a peeragen i— become or could could get a peerage, i think— become or could could get a peerage, i think her decision was probably predicated on her tnnino— was probably predicated on her trying-maximise— was probably predicated on her trying maximise her chances trying to maximise her chances of trying to maximise her chances on getting— trying to maximise her chances of getting peerage and of getting that peerage and i the of getting that peerage and i tne neoson— of getting that peerage and i the reason that— of getting that peerage and i the reason that she gave for tnis— the reason that she gave for tnis nnen— the reason that she gave for this when she— the reason that she gave for this when she on- the reason that she gave for this when she on her statement tnot— this when she on her statement tnot sne— this when she on her statement that she released— this when she on her statement that she released on twitter, sne— that she released on twitter, sne soit— that she released on twitter, she said that— that she released on twitter, she said that that she believes it os— she said that that she believes it it— she said that that she believes it it os— she said that that she believes it was it was time— she said that that she believes it was it was time to hand over tne— it was it was time to hand over tne eis— it was it was time to hand over tne ot— it was it was time to hand over the reins of her— it was it was time to hand over the reins of her constituency to a the reins of her constituency to o nonnoe— the reins of her constituency to o nonnoen tin— the reins of her constituency to a younger mp and— the reins of her constituency to a younger mp and nadine dorries is only— a younger mp and nadine dorries is onin ee— a younger mp and nadine dorries is ontn ee neons— a younger mp and nadine dorries is ontn ee neons — a younger mp and nadine dorries is only 66 years. si" a younger mp and nadine dorries is only 66 years. ’“i“ is only 66 years. but then she hastily edited i might get these tweets up on the screen if i can, because that is you're quite right that that was the original thing that she wrote on twitter. statement where she twitter. the statement where she said she was stepping down with immediate said she was stepping down with imnit's ate said she was stepping down with imnit's now time. the final say it's now time. the final sentence of the original tweet that put out there it that she put out there was it was time for someone younger was time now for someone younger to the reins. anyway, she to take the reins. anyway, she hastily that about five hastily amended that about five minutes or so later. and you will see if you've got eagle eyes, everyone, you'll see that the bottom line, if i can just get that second one up, it's basically amended. you don't we don't it. okay. we don't don't have it. okay. we don't have but i don't know why we

have it. but i don't know why we don't have it, but shall tell don't have it, but i shall tell you it says anyway. the you what it says anyway. the last where it's last line where she said it's now time for someone younger to take the reins, she basically took younger out and she took the younger bit out and she said time someone said it was time for someone else essentially to take those reins. that was really reins. i thought that was really interesting. i'm a little bit of an armchair detective me sit an armchair detective me i sit there, think, what's there, paul, and i think, what's going why have you amended going on? why have you amended that tweet? the younger that tweet? what was the younger thing that from thing where was that coming from anyway? she should anyway? do you reckon she should have on list not? have been on that list or not? not, particularly. i'm no not, not particularly. i'm no net— not, not particularly. i'm no eeot-ot— not, not particularly. i'm no great-of hers,- not, not particularly. i'm no great of hers, but i do love great fan of hers, but i do love a great fan of hers, but i do love o tit— great fan of hers, but i do love o tit ot— great fan of hers, but i do love a bit of bloodletting in the ion— a bit of bloodletting in the ion nonn— a bit of bloodletting in the ion into. i— a bit of bloodletting in the tory party. i think it's fantastic,— tory party. i think it's fantastic, isn't it? just a year ont— fantastic, isn't it? just a year ont tnon — fantastic, isn't it? just a year ont tnon on— fantastic, isn't it? just a year out from an election and you know,— out from an election and you tnonltnen-ne— out from an election and you know,-they're-in know, the they're involved in ne— know, the they're involved in this-infighting.- know, the they're involved in this infighting. and this bitter infighting. and i tnint— this bitter infighting. and i think probably act of think probably it's an act of revenge. -that- think probably it's an act of revenge. that number 10 revenge. i think that number 10 oneoii— revenge. i think that number 10 onenoii in— revenge. i think that number 10 overall in the— revenge. i think that number 10 overall in the her— revenge. i think that number 10 overall in the her as a choice ne— overall in the her as a choice nen ont— overall in the her as a choice her and alok_ overall in the her as a choice her and alok sharma and coming up her and alok sharma and coming no witn— her and alok sharma and coming up wit tne— her and alok sharma and coming up with the excuse— her and alok sharma and coming up with the excuse that no sitting— up with the excuse that no sitting tins— up with the excuse that no sitting mps will be entitled to it . i— sitting mps will be entitled to it . i tnint— sitting mps will be entitled to it . i tnint os— sitting mps will be entitled to it . i think as you— sitting mps will be entitled to it. i think as you said, sitting mps will be entitled to it . i think as you said, michel, it. i think as you said, michel, sne-s— it. i think as you said, michel, sne-s tnnonn— it. i think as you said, michel, she's thrown her— it. i think as you said, michel, she's thrown her toys out of the non — she's thrown her toys out of the non .— she's thrown her toys out of the non . wnetne— she's thrown her toys out of the pram . whether or— she's thrown her toys out of the pram . whether or not there was pram. whether or not there was any— pram. whether or not there was on eoiinsion— pram. whether or not there was any collusion with— pram. whether or not there was any collusion with boris ionnson— any collusion with boris johnson, who- any collusion with boris johnson, who knows ? we couldn't

johnson, who knows? we couldn't oossitin— johnson, who knows? we couldn't possibly speculate,— johnson, who knows? we couldn't possibly speculate, could we? ent— possibly speculate, could we? on its— possibly speculate, could we? on its onettn— possibly speculate, could we? but it's pretty clear that she's teeitet— but it's pretty clear that she's teeitet to— but it's pretty clear that she's decided to throw— but it's pretty clear that she's decided to throw that hand—grenade in. and in some nesneets— hand—grenade in. and in some nesoeets tnis— hand—grenade in. and in some respects, this is— hand—grenade in. and in some respects, this is going to be intenestino— respects, this is going to be interesting because she's got a tnnnoino— interesting because she's got a tnnnoino geot— interesting because she's got a thumping great majority in mid—bedfordshire of 24,000. i tnint— mid—bedfordshire of 24,000. i tnint tne— mid—bedfordshire of 24,000. i think the majority labour are ennentin— think the majority labour are ennentin .— think the majority labour are currently . the— think the majority labour are currently . the second party in currently. the second party in not— currently. the second party in that constituency— currently. the second party in that constituency and have been for that constituency and have been ton tne— that constituency and have been ton tne iost— that constituency and have been for the last few— that constituency and have been for the last few elections . now for the last few elections. now it notentioi— for the last few elections. now it potential banana skin, i tnint— it potential banana skin, i tnint ton— it potential banana skin, i think for both— it potential banana skin, i think for both main parties oetnoiin— think for both main parties actually, because if they if the tones— actually, because if they if the ionies ton-t— actually, because if they if the tories don't hold— actually, because if they if the tories don't hold to on it or only— tories don't hold to on it or ontn inst— tories don't hold to on it or only just scrape— tories don't hold to on it or only just scrape through , not only just scrape through, not going— only just scrape through, not going to— only just scrape through, not going to toot— only just scrape through, not going to look good for sunak inst— going to look good for sunak inst o— going to look good for sunak inst o yearn— going to look good for sunak just a year, possibly less than a just a year, possibly less than oneon— just a year, possibly less than o neon ont— just a year, possibly less than a year out from _ just a year, possibly less than a year out from an election. but at a year out from an election. but ot tne— a year out from an election. but ot tne soe— a year out from an election. but at the same time,— a year out from an election. but at the same time, people will be tooting— at the same time, people will be tootingltne— at the same time, people will be looking-the labour— at the same time, people will be looking the labour party and looking at the labour party and song— looking at the labour party and soning-oton— looking at the labour party and saying, okay, you're never saying, look, okay, you're never going— saying, look, okay, you're never going-nin— saying, look, okay, you're never going win mid—bedfordshire going to win mid—bedfordshire but going to win mid—bedfordshire int—o- going to win mid—bedfordshire but—a sizeable| but we want to see a sizeable swing— but we want to see a sizeable sning .— but we want to see a sizeable sning . iotonn— but we want to see a sizeable swing . labour voters will be swing. labour voters will be enoeeting — swing. labour voters will be enoeeting o— swing. labour voters will be expecting a sizeable swing. you tnint— expecting a sizeable swing. you tnint-ieot— expecting a sizeable swing. you tnint-ieot nn— expecting a sizeable swing. you think-lead up to- expecting a sizeable swing. you think lead up to 97 when think of the lead up to 97 when nioin— think of the lead up to 97 when one os— think of the lead up to 97 when one in— think of the lead up to 97 when blair was in-of- think of the lead up to 97 when blair was in-of the- blair was in charge of the iotonn— blair was in charge of the iotonn nonn— blair was in charge of the labour party. they were winning tetneen— labour party. they were winning tetneen zo— labour party. they were winning between 20 and— labour party. they were winning between 20 and 30% swings in nioees— between 20 and 30% swings in nioees-tnen— between 20 and 30% swings in places they hadn't won places where they hadn't won onenionsin. — places where they hadn't won onenionstn. so— places where they hadn't won previously. so unless the labour places where they hadn't won previcpostsso unless the labour places where they hadn't won previcposts something he labour places where they hadn't won previcposts something alongiour party posts something along tnose— party posts something along tnose tines— party posts something along those lines in— party posts something along those lines in terms of the

swing,— those lines in terms of the swing, tnen— those lines in terms of the swing, then the— those lines in terms of the swing, then the danger is the ionies— swing, then the danger is the ionies noto— swing, then the danger is the tories hold on— swing, then the danger is the tories hold on to— swing, then the danger is the tories hold on to it and then tne— tories hold on to it and then tne toens— tories hold on to it and then tne toens is— tories hold on to it and then the focus is back— tories hold on to it and then the focus is back labour. the focus is back on labour. toot,— the focus is back on labour. toot, tnene— the focus is back on labour. look, there - a - the focus is back on labour. look, there a by—election look, there was a by—election nee— look, there was a by—election nee-tit— look, there was a by—election here-did rubbish.- here and you did rubbish. so its— here and you did rubbish. so its-o— here and you did rubbish. so its-o nign- here and you did rubbish. so it's-a high risk- it's a bit of a high risk stnotegn— it's a bit of a high risk strategy for— it's a bit of a high risk strategy for achieving what she nonts— strategy for achieving what she nonts to — strategy for achieving what she wants to achieve. _ strategy for achieving what she wants to achieve. “ nit“t: wants to achieve. tiverton and honiton you recall last honiton and if you recall last year the who i keep calling year the guy who i keep calling tractor boy and i must stop calling him that and give him his actual title. neil parish , his actual title. neil parish, you'll remember him because he was apparently accused of watching an adult material. i'll say it softly, shall i? it's tea time in parliament, he reckons, if my memory serves me right. he was just looking at tractors. anyway i should suspend judgement on that. anyway, my point is on that one. he had a similar ish majority there or thereabouts. i think give or take a couple of thousand whatever. but it 20 odd and whatever. but it was 20 odd and whatever. but it was 20 odd and what happened was dems what happened was the lib dems got in and many people were saying that was the result saying that that was the result of voting and people of tactical voting and people were desperate anyone of tactical voting and people were thaniesperate anyone of tactical voting and people were than a;perate anyone of tactical voting and people were than a toryte anyone of tactical voting and people were than a tory in anyone of tactical voting and people were than a tory in thatiyone of tactical voting and people were than a tory in that seat. other than a tory in that seat. so it'll be interesting how tactical plays a part in tactical voting plays a part in this by—election as well. yeah,

i mean, you know, or 2 people i mean, you know, 1 or 2 people have already suggested there might some pact might be some sort of pact between labour the lib dems. between labour and the lib dems. i don't see that happening, oetnoiin.— i don't see that happening, oetnoiin. i— i don't see that happening, actually. i-know- i don't see that happening, actually. i know . i i don't see that happening, actually. i know. i don't actually. i don't know. i don't tnint— actually. i don't know. i don't tnint it— actually. i don't know. i don't think if you're— actually. i don't know. i don't think if you're serious the think if you're serious as the iotonn— think if you're serious as the iotonn nonn— think if you're serious as the labour party is— think if you're serious as the labour party is ,_ think if you're serious as the labour party is , you should be labour party is, you should be otont— labour party is, you should be about forming— labour party is, you should be about forming the next government. - about forming the next government. we're about forming the next- government.-we're possibly government. and we're possibly just government. and we're possibly inst-ont— government. and we're possibly inst-ont tnon — government. and we're possibly just-out from an- just a year out from an eieetion. — just a year out from an election. think would send election. i think it would send the election. i think it would send tne-gossitie— election. i think it would send the possible signal that the worst possible signal that noe— the worst possible signal that. non-ne—toing you're not confident about doing neit— you're not confident about doing neii ont— you're not confident about doing neii ont tnot— you're not confident about doing well and that therefore you're going— well and that therefore you're going to— well and that therefore you're going to none— well and that therefore you're going to have to— well and that therefore you're going to have to pull your resources-enter- going to have to pull your resources-enter pact resources and enter into a pact witn— resources and enter into a pact nitn—i- resources and enter into a pact nitn—i tnint- resources and enter into a pact with—i think the| with another party. i think the nntiie— with another party. i think the nntiie-see— with another party. i think the nntiie-seelos- public would see it as opportunistic. think they opportunistic. i think they nonto— opportunistic. i think they nonit see— opportunistic. i think they would see it— opportunistic. i think they would see it as cynical. i think tnen— would see it as cynical. i think tnen nonto— would see it as cynical. i think they would feel— would see it as cynical. i think they would feel that labour they would feel that the labour party— they would feel that the labour tony—enongn- they would feel that the labour tony—enongn tol party wasn't brave enough to stone— party wasn't brave enough to stone-onn— party wasn't brave enough to stand own platform. and stand on its own platform. and i tnint— stand on its own platform. and i think-himself- stand on its own platform. and i think-himself will- stand on its own platform. and i think himself will come think starmer himself will come nnte— think starmer himself will come under-pressure,— think starmer himself will come under pressure, not to do under huge pressure, not to do not.— under huge pressure, not to do tnot. so— under huge pressure, not to do tnot. so non-ii— under huge pressure, not to do that. so you'll get— under huge pressure, not to do that. so you'll get your kind of nsnoi— that. so you'll get your kind of usual-progressives- that. so you'll get your kind of usual progressives on the usual hyper progressives on the left-satin — usual hyper progressives on the left-satin non— usual hyper progressives on the left say, you know, we left who say, you know, we snonit — left who say, you know, we should . should - left who say, you know, we should should enter into a should we should enter into a poet— should we should enter into a poet nitn— should we should enter into a pact with labour— should we should enter into a pact with labour and the lib items— pact with labour and the lib items int— pact with labour and the lib items int i— pact with labour and the lib dems, but i don't think it'll happen-— dems, but i don't think it'll happen-anyone. dems, but i don't think it'll happen. anyone out happen. is there anyone out tnene— happen. is there anyone out tnene-on- happen. is there anyone out there or listening? there watching or listening? are there watching or listening? one-tonne— there watching or listening? are- nadine dorries. are you in, nadine dorries constituency? you constituency? what do you make to it? you might be to it? because you might be familiar the fact that familiar with the fact that i think it was about five hours pnor think it was about five hours prior resignation on prior to her resignation on twitter. went on

twitter. she literally went on national television and she said she wouldn't do anything to trigger a by—election that's literally what she said about five hours prior to then putting it on twitter that she was going. when she was asked about that in a subsequent interview, she said it wouldn't really come as surprise to anyone in her as any surprise to anyone in her constituency she'd constituency because she'd already wouldn't stand already said she wouldn't stand at election anyway . so at the next election anyway. so apparently expecting to apparently you were expecting to her go. but i wonder if you are in that seat. how do you feel today? you feel little bit today? do you feel a little bit let or what do you let down or or what do you think? riddance. do you think? good riddance. do you think? good riddance. do you think wrong decision? think it's the wrong decision? emma, what do you think will happen that by—election? happen in that by—election? goodness i got goodness i mean, she's got a ionge— goodness i mean, she's got a ionge noionitn— goodness i mean, she's got a ionge noionitn .— goodness i mean, she's got a large majority . but- goodness i mean, she's got a large majority . but i- l: i mean, she's got a large majority . but i think that large majority. but i think that as large majority. but i think that os-nitn— large majority. but i think that os-nitn tne— large majority. but i think that as with the previous by as we saw with the previous by eieetions— as we saw with the previous by elections, it's— as we saw with the previous by elections, it's very— as we saw with the previous by elections, it's very likely that tnen-ne— elections, it's very likely that tnen-ne-tote- elections, it's very likely that they're -take a - elections, it's very likely that they're take a dramatic they're going to take a dramatic hit they're going to take a dramatic nit—toe— they're going to take a dramatic nit—toet tnot.- hit and even the fact that. totine— hit and even the fact that. nadine dorries— hit and even the fact that. nadine dorries would resign in ne— nadine dorries would resign in tnis-ogoin— nadine dorries would resign in tnis-ogoin ,— nadine dorries would resign in tnis-ogoin , it- nadine dorries would resign in this again , it puts this way, it again, it puts tonnoni— this way, it again, it puts tonnont, i— this way, it again, it puts forward, i think the people who are forward, i think the people who onelenonge— forward, i think the people who onelenonge ot— forward, i think the people who arelcharge of the— forward, i think the people who are charge of the comms and are in charge of the comms and pr-conservative- are in charge of the comms and pr conservative party pr of the conservative party witt— pr of the conservative party niti onototin— pr of the conservative party will probably be thinking about the will probably be thinking about tne enoos— will probably be thinking about the chaos that— will probably be thinking about the chaos that this portrays to the chaos that this portrays to tne nnitisn — the chaos that this portrays to the british public. and so i tnint— the british public. and so i tnint tnot— the british public. and so i

think that that— the british public. and so i think that that will come into geopie-s— think that that will come into oeooie-s nines— think that that will come into people's minds when they're teeiting— people's minds when they're teeiting non— people's minds when they're deciding how they're going to note. — deciding how they're going to note. so— deciding how they're going to note. so i— deciding how they're going to vote. so i, for— deciding how they're going to vote. so i, for example, i'm not i vote. so i, for example, i'm not inonitn-t— vote. so i, for example, i'm not i wouldn't call— vote. so i, for example, i'm not i wouldn't call myself a party noiitieoi— i wouldn't call myself a party ooiitieoi on— i wouldn't call myself a party political or tribal— i wouldn't call myself a party political or tribal in that sense,-only- political or tribal in that sense, only ever political or tribal in that- sense,-only ever voted sense, but i've only ever voted for-conservative- sense, but i've only ever voted for conservative party. for the conservative party. obviouslvn_ for the conservative party. obviously, - not - for the conservative party. obviously, not in. how can obviously, i'm not in. how can you— obviously, i'm not in. how can non-none— obviously, i'm not in. how can non-non-ne-nont- you say you're not part political? _ you say you're not part political? and- you say you're not part political? ' “t: �*" you say you're not part- political? and if you've only ever for one particular part, because would never i would because i, i would never i would i would never exclude the possibility of voting otherwise. i'm open minded. i'm open nineteen— i'm open minded. i'm open minted. in— i'm open minded. i'm open minded. i'm not— i'm open minded. i'm open minded. i'm not i wouldn't tesenite— minded. i'm not i wouldn't describe myself- minded. i'm not i wouldn't describe myself as a tory. i'd tesenite— describe myself as a tory. i'd describe myself— describe myself as a tory. i'd describe myself as a conservative- describe myself as a conservative kyiv. and so , you conservative kyiv. and so, you know,— conservative kyiv. and so, you know, in— conservative kyiv. and so, you know, in ene— conservative kyiv. and so, you know, i'm even i— conservative kyiv. and so, you know, i'm even i am feeling nesennotions— know, i'm even i am feeling reservations about the direction of reservations about the direction ot tne— reservations about the direction of the conservative party ennentin.— of the conservative party currently. and - of the conservative party currently. and so i think there nit— currently. and so i think there niii te— currently. and so i think there niii te nonn— currently. and so i think there will be many people who are tooting— will be many people who are tooting ot— will be many people who are looking at the— will be many people who are looking at the chaos in the partv- _ looking at the chaos in the party- they're— looking at the chaos in the party. they're looking at, you know,— party. they're looking at, you know, tne— party. they're looking at, you know, the speech— party. they're looking at, you know, the speech that rishi snnot— know, the speech that rishi snnot-ginen- know, the speech that rishi sunak given, where know, the speech that rishi - sunak-given, where he's sunak has just given, where he's toiting— sunak has just given, where he's toting-tne— sunak has just given, where he's talking -the north - sunak has just given, where he's talking the north and talking about the north and tooting— talking about the north and looking back— talking about the north and looking back over the last 13 neons— looking back over the last 13 years government thinking looking back over the last 13 yea haven'tvernment thinking looking back over the last 13 yeahaven'tvernment the:hinking looking back over the last 13 yeahaven'tvernment the things] we haven't got any of the things neoiin— we haven't got any of the things neoiin tnot— we haven't got any of the things neottn tnot ne— we haven't got any of the things really that we were— we haven't got any of the things really that we were promised by this really that we were promised by tnis oonn— really that we were promised by this party. however would this party. however i would stit— this party. however i would. still—because still vote conservative because i still vote conservative because i nonto— still vote conservative because i nonit note— still vote conservative because i would vote tactically in order still vote conservative because i vkeep vote tactically in order still vote conservative because i vkeep thee tactically in order still vote conservative because i vkeep the labourilly in order still vote conservative because

i vkeep the labour party order still vote conservative because i vkeep the labour party out, r to keep the labour party out, teeonse— to keep the labour party out, teeonse i— to keep the labour party out, because i think— to keep the labour party out, because i think the situation nit— because i think the situation nit-nnen— because i think the situation will-much worse- because i think the situation will much worse labour. will be much worse with labour. ant— will be much worse with labour. ant-tnint— will be much worse with labour. and-think there— will be much worse with labour. and think there will be and so i think there will be i inogine— and so i think there will be i inogine tnot— and so i think there will be i imagine that will be many imagine that there will be many oeonie— imagine that there will be many people nno— imagine that there will be many people nno witt— imagine that there will be many people who will be be people who will be who'll be tninting— people who will be who'll be tninting- - people who will be who'll be thinking- and- people who will be who'll bej thinking- and you thinking the same. and you mention— thinking the same. and you mention the this mention rishi in the north, this is i'm playing on the is what i'm playing on the screen right now. he was in doncaster, the northern research group. remember, group. you might remember, if you've memories of you've got very good memories of i this time last i think it was this time last yean i think it was this time last year, johnson, he was year, boris johnson, he was supposed to be addressing that conference. i was there actually, speaking . i actually, i was speaking. i think upset a few think i upset a few people. i wasn't invited back for a second time. i a few, i told a few time. i told a few, i told a few home so did. i don't home truths. so i did. i don't think it went down very well anyway. borisjohnson, think it went down very well anyway. boris johnson, he didn't turn because he was turn up because he was in ukraine today, though. rishi sunak turn up. i've got a sunak he did turn up. i've got a clip. i think might have a clip. i think i might have a clip. i think i might have a clip of him. sps splaining to you that is going to be the you that he is going to be the prime minister the north. prime minister for the north. let's a listen. oh, we let's have a listen. oh, we don't either. don't have that either. i apologise about that . you apologise about that. do you think rishi is the think then, rishi sunak is the prime for the north? prime minister for the north? well, the only people who have eieetet— well, the only people who have eieetet nin — well, the only people who have elected him really— well, the only people who have elected him really are his own tins.— elected him really are his own tins. inot-s— elected him really are his own mps. that's the— elected him really are his own mps. that's the truth of it. nes— mps. that's the truth of it. he's never been- mps. that's the truth of it. he's never been to the country.

no he's never been to the country. to oe— he's never been to the country. to in— he's never been to the country. to in tne— he's never been to the country. no one in the country has got tne— no one in the country has got tne onoontnnitn— no one in the country has got the opportunity to has had the oooonnnitn— opportunity to vote for him. i see-a technocrat- opportunity to vote for him. i see-a technocrat .- opportunity to vote for him. i see a technocrat . i think see him as a technocrat. i think on o oensonoi— see him as a technocrat. i think on a personal level,— see him as a technocrat. i think on a personal level, he's nononn— on a personal level, he's gnototin o— on a personal level, he's probably a decent guy, but he's inst. — probably a decent guy, but he's inst. wnot— probably a decent guy, but he's just. what does— probably a decent guy, but he's just. what does that- probably a decent guy, but he's just. : , just. what does that mean? because people use all these words authoritarian words or all authoritarian technocrat people at home. i technocrat and people at home. i don't think what half don't think they know what half of things mean. what do of these things mean. what do you mean that? essentially, you mean by that? essentially, they you mean by that? essentially, tnen tnint— you mean by that? essentially, tnen tnint tne— you mean by that? essentially, they think the there's- they think the there's a layer of they think the there's a layer on neooie— they think the there's a layer of people -think- they think the there's a layer of people think that the of people who think that the nonto— of people who think that the wont-te— of people who think that the world-be run- of people who think that the world-be run by- of people who think that the world be run by experts. world should be run by experts. neonie— world should be run by experts. eeone—tote- people like them. they take a nen— people like them. they take a nen-ot— people like them. they take a very-of technical,- very kind of technical, technocratic- very kind of technical, technocratic approach the technocratic approach to the. eeonon —ant economy, to social issues. and tnen— economy, to social issues. and tnen-tint— economy, to social issues. and tnen-tint ot- economy, to social issues. and they kind of managerial they are very kind of managerial in-non— they are very kind of managerial in-non tnot— they are very kind of managerial in-non tnot tnen— they are very kind of managerial in way that they do things. in the way that they do things. they— in the way that they do things. they-particularly- in the way that they do things. they particularly trust they don't particularly trust tenoenoen— they don't particularly trust tenoenoen .— they don't particularly trust democracy . they don't democracy. they don't particularly- democracy. they don't- particularly-average particularly trust the average note — particularly trust the average note inen— particularly trust the average voter. they see— particularly trust the average voter. they see everything tnnongn— voter. they see everything tnnongn tne— voter. they see everything through the prism, often of a tint— through the prism, often of a tint ot— through the prism, often of a kind of academic— through the prism, often of a kind of academic or some city sneenioton— kind of academic or some city soeentoton on— kind of academic or some city speculator or somebody who is far speculator or somebody who is to eonet— speculator or somebody who is far removed from _ speculator or somebody who is far removed from the. so they tosieoiin— far removed from the. so they basically think the electorate is thick. i think if you if you took— is thick. i think if you if you took ont— is thick. i think if you if you took ont i— is thick. i think if you if you look and i think— ti.

onototin— life and british political life onototin to— life and british political life probably do actually think that the probably do actually think that tne onenoeg— probably do actually think that the average voter— probably do actually think that the average voter is thick teeonse— the average voter is thick because large _ the average voter is thick because large numbers of that tone— because large numbers of that tone singin— because large numbers of that layer simply haven't reconciled tnenseines— layer simply haven't reconciled themselves to _ layer simply haven't reconciled themselves to the _ layer simply haven't reconciled themselves to the brexit vote . themselves to the brexit vote. they— themselves to the brexit vote. inen tnint— themselves to the brexit vote. they think that— themselves to the brexit vote. they think that people got it nnong— they think that people got it nnong .— they think that people got it nnong . inen— they think that people got it wrong . they they think it was wrong. they they think it was a tenoononn— wrong. they they think it was a temporary aberration and the stotns— temporary aberration and the stotns gno— temporary aberration and the status quo will— temporary aberration and the status quo will be will be in reinstalled— status quo will be will be in reinstalled at— status quo will be will be in reinstalled at some point and teeonse— reinstalled at some point and teeonse tnen— reinstalled at some point and because they are— reinstalled at some point and because they are so far removed tnon — because they are so far removed tnon tnon — because they are so far removed from from ordinary— because they are so far removed from from ordinary working class oeoge— from from ordinary working class peoplen tnon — from from ordinary working class people, from ordinary communities, they don't understand— communities, they don't understand what motivates those eonnnnities— understand what motivates those eonnnnities .— understand what motivates those communities . they don't communities. they don't understand— communities. they don't understand the impulses of those eonnnnnniiest — understand the impulses of those communities. and— understand the impulses of those communities. and a layer of oeonie— communities. and a layer of ww“! tnot— communities. and a layer of people that are— communities. and a layer of people that are very they're nnenntes— people that are very they're nnenntes ot— people that are very they're members of the— people that are very they're members of the professional and nonogenioi— members of the professional and managerial classes— members of the professional and managerial classes essentially. you managerial classes essentially. non know,— managerial classes essentially. non tnon, tnen— managerial classes essentially. you know, they are often gnotnotes— you know, they are often graduates. they are often in net— graduates. they are often in tnein onn— graduates. they are often in their own backgrounds, quite ninetie— their own backgrounds, quite middle—often- their own backgrounds, quite middle often live their own backgrounds, quite. middle _often live in middle class. they often live in our middle class. they often live in onn—eities- middle class. they often live in our—cities-ourl our fashionable cities and our nninensitn— our fashionable cities and our nninensitn-.— our fashionable cities and our university-. and- our fashionable cities and our university . and that's the university towns. and that's the son— university towns. and that's the sort ltechnocracy _ university towns. and that's the sort technocracy i'm talking sort of technocracy i'm talking otont. — sort of technocracy i'm talking otont. ant— sort of technocracy i'm talking about. and rishi— sort of technocracy i'm talking about. and rishi sunak is otsointein— about. and rishi sunak is absolutely a— about. and rishi sunak is absolutely a part of it is they do absolutely a part of it is they to non— absolutely a part of it is they to non ognee— absolutely a part of it is they do you agree with that at home? one— do you agree with that at home? one ot— do you agree with that at home? one oi tne— do you agree with that at home? one of the you're— do you agree with that at home? one of the you're mentioning there people there about, you know, people feeling like they're better than others? things others? one of the things that i thought interesting, nadine thought was interesting, nadine dorries, when she was talking

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gb news. hello i gb news.- hello there. gb news. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight. lots of you getting in touch. i'm aware. paul embry still remain next to me. i've had about seven different people message in saying please , can message in saying please, can you tell paul embry he looks better with his facial hair? ask him to regrow it. oh, do you want him to regrow it. oh, do you nontlsneot— him to regrow it. oh, do you want-speak to— him to regrow it. oh, do you want-speak to my- “ g e oh, do you want speak to my wife? she'll want to speak to my wife? she'll none — want to speak to my wife? she'll none o— want to speak to my wife? she'll none o tignt— want to speak to my wife? she'll have a fight with— want to speak to my wife? she'll have a fight with her. 0“ gilt?” have a fight with her. oh, yeah? neii.— have a fight with her. oh, yeah? visit. in— have a fight with her. oh, yeah? well, i'm telling you, that's what a lot of people getting what a lot of people are getting in tonight. jenny says, in touch tonight. jenny says, please. say thank you to please. can you say thank you to paul us that paul for giving us that wonderful of wonderful explanation of technocrat and what it means? i've wondered it i've often wondered what it means, know that's one means, and now i know that's one of things that i all

of the things that i think all these words, they kind of authoritarian, totalitarian, technocrat, this, that or the other. of people just other. and a lot of people just nod along or go, yeah, completely agree. that's exactly what he is. then what i think. he is. and then actually secretly don't really know so am know what it means. so i am here to everyone. don't worry if to help everyone. don't worry if you've questions, you've got any questions, there's such a daft there's no such thing as a daft question. you can get them in to me and we'll try and get them answered you. right though, answered to you. right though, let this question. do let me ask you this question. do you trust police? according you trust the police? according to inspector public to the chief inspector public report, is it's come out it report, this is it's come out it says that public trust is hanging by a thread . of course, hanging by a thread. of course, we all know the state of the police, the policing in this country anyway, don't we? we know that actually if you do dial 999, you're going to have quite a slow response. sometimes if have, i don't know, you if you have, i don't know, you might have your shed burgled or whatever. to whatever. good luck trying to get response. mind. get a response. never mind. actually follow and actually a follow up and a conviction off the back it. conviction off the back of it. people will often point, of course, like when course, to things like when cousins that the whole cousins and say that the whole thing is institutionally sexist and all rest of and racist and all the rest of it . try really hard . regular it. i try really hard. regular viewers will be aware of this. i

always try to defend the police because as i think it takes a very brave man or woman to put themselves in the way of danger to forward or to respond to to run forward or to respond to a 999 call, perhaps not to know what awaits them. often they've got families of their own. they put themselves in danger, and it's to easy sit in a tv studio sitting don't sitting there going, yeah, don't trust police , but until trust the police, but until you've a day their you've walked a day in their shoes and been one of them, especially under today's scenario people are scenario where people are actually quite rude, i think, and disrespectful towards the police. so i try my best to stick up for them. does it wash with you? do you trust them? well so i to caveat, i agree with you and i think we have many brave policemen and police, women country who are women around the country who are in it for all the right reasons. and i think people like myself nno— and i think people like myself nno teiiene— and i think people like myself who believe in— and i think people like myself who believe in law and order tint— who believe in law and order tint it— who believe in law and order find it difficult.— who believe in law and order find it difficult. it's not instinctive— find it difficult. it's not instinctive to - find it difficult. it's not instinctive to be so critical of tne— instinctive to be so critical of tne notiee— instinctive to be so critical of the police, but— instinctive to be so critical of the police, but i— instinctive to be so critical of the police, but i think that the nnn— the police, but i think that the reason why people distrust the note— reason why people distrust the noiiee is— reason why people distrust the ooiiee is its— reason why people distrust the police is it's not— reason why people distrust the police is it's not just these more extreme— police is it's not just these more extreme examples of, you

know— more extreme examples of, you know ,— more extreme examples of, you know , neeent— more extreme examples of, you know , recent cases that we've know, recent cases that we've seen. you mentioned wayne eonsins. — seen. you mentioned wayne eonsins. i— seen. you mentioned wayne cousins. i think— seen. you mentioned wayne cousins. i think it's also part of cousins. i think it's also part ot o— cousins. i think it's also part ot o tnooten— cousins. i think it's also part of a broader perspective, the sitnotion— of a broader perspective, the situation of— of a broader perspective, the situation of the— of a broader perspective, the situation of the criminal instiee— situation of the criminal justice system in this country , justice system in this country, the justice system in this country, tne toet— justice system in this country, the fact that— justice system in this country, the fact that we _ justice system in this country, the fact that we see regularly on soeioi— the fact that we see regularly on social media,— the fact that we see regularly on social media, you see videos of on social media, you see videos on oeonie— on social media, you see videos on new“! teing— on social media, you see videos of people being arrested for tnings— of people being arrested for tnings tnot— of people being arrested for things that they say that are negontet— things that they say that are negontet os— things that they say that are regarded as offensive live. but you— regarded as offensive live. but non oiso— regarded as offensive live. but non oiso see— regarded as offensive live. but you also see statistics in the ones— you also see statistics in the pness otont— you also see statistics in the press about how— you also see statistics in the press about how burglary is essentioiin— press about how burglary is essentially been legalised in tnis— essentially been legalised in tnis eonntnn— essentially been legalised in this country because burglaries are this country because burglaries inst— this country because burglaries inst not— this country because burglaries are just not being— this country because burglaries are just not being investigated ont— are just not being investigated ont soineei— are just not being investigated and solved. and— are just not being investigated and solved. and so you have this note— and solved. and so you have this nnoie nigge— and solved. and so you have this whole bigger picture where you seen— whole bigger picture where you non— whole bigger picture where you non know,— whole bigger picture where you see, you know, police officers nno— see, you know, police officers nno oe— see, you know, police officers who are arresting— see, you know, police officers who are arresting somebody for tisnnoting— who are arresting somebody for tisnnoting. so— who are arresting somebody for disrupting. so when the just ston— disrupting. so when the just stop eit— disrupting. so when the just stop oil protesters were doing tnein— stop oil protesters were doing tnein ston— stop oil protesters were doing their slow march,— stop oil protesters were doing their slow march, a man gets out of their slow march, a man gets out ot nis— their slow march, a man gets out ot nis non— their slow march, a man gets out ot nis ont— their slow march, a man gets out of his van and tries— their slow march, a man gets out of his van and tries to clear tnen — of his van and tries to clear tnen tnon — of his van and tries to clear them from the— of his van and tries to clear them from the road, something them from the road, something tne noiiee— them from the road, something the police should— them from the road, something the police should be doing. they tnen— the police should be doing. they tnen go— the police should be doing. they tnen go ont— the police should be doing. they then go and arrest— the police should be doing. they then go and arrest the man who's tning— then go and arrest the man who's tnning to— then go and arrest the man who's tnning to ten— then go and arrest the man who's trying to deal with— trying to deal with the protesters. - trying to deal with the- protesters. -more force protesters. they use more force on than the guide on the guy than the guide actually used on the process as well. if you remember, think well. if you remember, i think i tnint— well. if you remember, i think i tnint-neonie— well. if you remember, i think i think-people see- well. if you remember, i think i think-people see all- if you remember, i think i think people see all of think people people see all of tnese— think people people see all of tnese tnings— think people people see all of these things taking and these things taking place and neo— these things taking place and tnen-noiiee- these things taking place and they-police are- these things taking place and they police are not they think the police are not doing— they think the police are not doing-tne—

they think the police are not doing-the police- they think the police are not doing the police ought to doing what the police ought to be doing. — doing what the police ought to be doing. ant— doing what the police ought to be doing. and they're doing many tnings— be doing. and they're doing many things-shouldn't- things that they shouldn't neoiin— things that they shouldn't. neoiin—nntting really be doing, like putting out really be doing, like putting ont—teingi out the message that being ottensine— out the message that being offensive is— out the message that being offensive is an— out the message that being offensive is an offence, which it—sol it absolutely isn't. and so even nnseit— it absolutely isn't. and so even nnsett, non— it absolutely isn't. and so even myself, you know,— it absolutely isn't. and so even myself, you know, i was burgled inning— myself, you know, i was burgled during lockdown._ myself, you know, i was burgled during lockdown. i— myself, you know, i was burgled during lockdown. i was in the inning— during lockdown. i was in the tniiting—intoi building, but they broke into the building, but they broke into tne-stoie- building, but they broke into tne-stoie nn- building, but they broke into the stole my bike, the building, stole my bike, and nnen— the building, stole my bike, and nnenleoiiet— the building, stole my bike, and whenicalled up— the building, stole my bike, and when called up the police, when i called up the police, tnen— when i called up the police, tnen soit— when i called up the police, tnen soit to— when i called up the police, they said to me,— when i called up the police, they said to me, look for your tite— they said to me, look for your bite on— they said to me, look for your own bike on gumtree. so do you ink,— own bike on gumtree. so do you gin, tnongn— own bike on gumtree. so do you think, though, that— own bike on gumtree. so do you think, though, that are think, though, that people are toning— think, though, that people are having interactions having daily interactions with the having daily interactions with tne-tnot— having daily interactions with the that making them the police that are making them tistnnst—ant- the police that are making them distrust—and withl distrust the system? and with everything going on in the world, think that the world, do you think that the police should spending police should be spending their time bike? time looking for your bike? well, think that it's well, i think that it's inoontont— well, i think that it's important on a basic level that the important on a basic level that tne noiiee— important on a basic level that the police-deal— important on a basic level that the police deal with with the police can deal with with tite— the police can deal with with crimes like burglary. it's inoonont— crimes like burglary. it's important and crimes like burglary. it's important-and you important for law and order. you eon-t— important for law and order. you eon-t inst— important for law and order. you can't just solve— important for law and order. you can't just solve the— important for law and order. you can't just solve the biggest important for law and order. you can't jland olve the biggest important for law and order. you can't jland ignorea biggest important for law and order. you can't jland ignore thejgest important for law and order. you can't jland ignore the smaller crimes and ignore the smaller ones. forlsociety_ crimes and ignore the smaller ones. for society that's ones. for a society that's ontenet— ones. for a society that's ordered and— ones. for a society that's ordered and safe, you need to ten— ordered and safe, you need to teoi-tosie— ordered and safe, you need to deal-basic things- ordered and safe, you need to deal basic things like deal with basic things like oeooie— deal with basic things like people breaking deal with basic things like- people breaking - burglary people breaking because burglary is—inene-s- people breaking because burglary is_there's also. is also dangerous. there's also a is also dangerous. there's also o-neonie— is also dangerous. there's also o-neonie . - is also dangerous. there's also o-neonie . ine- is also dangerous. there's also. a-people . the broken a threat of people. the broken windows theory. it is a a threat of people. “ : ”g it is a new windows theory. it is a new york. yeah. if you if you allow people to get away with what you what you just disregard as low level crime, then in level crime, then that in reality becomes a bit a reality becomes a bit of a gateway people to then

gateway for people to then think, i can that. and think, well, i can do that. and there was no sanction, you know, i wasn't arrested, i'll just go and do the next thing and, you know, truth is i think we know, the truth is i think we need to separate institution need to separate the institution of police force from of the police force from individual police officers. there fantastic individual there are fantastic individual police officers. i agree with very as you said, very brave. and as you said, michel, they put their lives on the for us. should the line for us. and we should respect that. as an respect that. but as an institution, police is they institution, the police is they are absolutely in are absolutely failing. and in reality , if they were reality, if they were a commercial organisation , they commercial organisation, they would be up before trading standards because they do not do what they are supposed to do. and now we are taxpayers and we're entitled to expect a particular service. they have frankly given up the fight against we were saying, low against what we were saying, low level people. people will be seeonning— level people. people will be seeonning ot— level people. people will be screaming at the— people will be screaming at the screens saying it's screaming at the screens saying it-s-noiiee-s— screaming at the screens saying it's-police's fault,- it's not the police's fault, its— it's not the police's fault, its-to— it's not the police's fault, its-to tne- it's not the police's fault,i it's-to the number it's not the police's fault,- it's-to the number of it's the cuts to the number of note— it's the cuts to the number of noiiee-tne — it's the cuts to the number of police -the rest - it's the cuts to the number of police -the rest of- it's the cuts to the number of police the rest of it. police and all the rest of it. inen-ne— police and all the rest of it. inen-ne-to— police and all the rest of it. they've to prioritise what they've had to prioritise what tnen—inot-si they do and don't do. that's not— they do and don't do. that's not oeooie— they do and don't do. that's what people will— they do and don't do. that's what people will be saying. neii.— what people will be saying. wen i— what people will be saying. wen i ton-t— what people will be saying. well, i don't think- what people will be saying. well, i don't think that- what people will be saying. well, i don't think that i- what people will be saying. well, i don't think that i mean, there's some that. i'm there's some truth in that. i'm sure, but i don't think it explains everything. i think the way police, way that the police, police, i think fact that they've think the fact that they've

abandoned streets, i think abandoned the streets, i think the they've allowed the fact that they've allowed themselves easily to be themselves all too easily to be turned social workers, themselves all too easily to be turned socialocial workers, themselves all too easily to be turned social activists. (ers, themselves all too easily to be turned social activists. you stroke social activists. you know, when you when say know, when you when you say cuts, it isn't cuts that forces police officers in police officers to take part in pride for example , and pride parades, for example, and start it isn't start dancing around. it isn't cuts force police officers cuts that force police officers to take the knee . what is it to take the knee. what is it tnene— to take the knee. what is it then? management- what is it then? management director do you tnint— then? management director do you tnint tnis— then? management director do you tnint tnis is— then? management director do you think this is coming— then? management director do you think this is coming from above? ntnene— think this is coming from above? wnene nne— think this is coming from above? where you've probably this where you've probably got this tone— where you've probably got this ionen ot— where you've probably got this ionen ot tint— where you've probably got this layer of kind of— where you've probably got this layer of kind of work management or layer of kind of work management on nnotenen— layer of kind of work management on nnotenen non— layer of kind of work management or whatever you whatever you wont — or whatever you whatever you wont to — or whatever you whatever you wont to eoii— or whatever you whatever you want to call it,— or whatever you whatever you want to call it, they want to be inen-ne— want to call it, they want to be seen. they've probably got tongets— seen. they've probably got targets, - know, - seen. they've probably got targets, know, won't targets, you know, won't snnnnise— targets, you know, won't snnonise-it- targets, you know, won't surprise if some of these surprise me if some of these tosses— surprise me if some of these tosses toiiee— surprise me if some of these bosses, police have bosses, police bosses have got tnese— bosses, police bosses have got tnese-nignt.— bosses, police bosses have got tnese-nignt.-goti these targets right. you've got to—tiet- these targets right. you've got to—tiet tnis- these targets right. you've goti to _tick this box, to make sure you tick this box, tnot— to make sure you tick this box, tnot ton,— to make sure you tick this box, that box, this. _ to make sure you tick this box, that box, this. you've got to note— that box, this. you've got to make sure that— that box, this. you've got to make sure that you demonstrate tnot—to- that you're inclusive to this eonnnnitn— that you're inclusive to this community, community, community, that community, and nonte— community, that community, and nonte-tint— community, that community, and maybe kind targets maybe it's these kind of targets ont— maybe it's these kind of targets ont stntt— maybe it's these kind of targets and stuff that— maybe it's these kind of targets and stuff that then trickle down nnien— and stuff that then trickle down nnien nesnit— and stuff that then trickle down which result in— and stuff that then trickle down which result in what we end up seeing,— which result in what we end up seeing,_stupidityi seeing, which is the stupidity of-priorities. - seeing, which is the stupidity of-priorities. the. seeing, which is the stupidity. of-priorities. the top of policing priorities. the top layer— of policing priorities. the top layer of— of policing priorities. the top layer of-of— of policing priorities. the top layer of-of our— of policing priorities. the top layer of of our public layer of our of our public life and public institutions have and our public institutions have has unfortunately been captured by this kind of hyper progressive ideology. you know , progressive ideology. you know, what some people would call a

woke ideology. you know, which presents itself as kind of very tolerant and very inclusive . but tolerant and very inclusive. but actually, he's quite intolerant and quite exclusive. and you know, if you take the trans debate for example, they would say, yeah, we're being we're being inclusive over that stuff. actually some of the arguments they make are very exclusive towards women who a towards women who have got a different don't even get me for their own safety. and won't different don't even get me for thethere. safety. and won't different don't even get me for thethere. safethat's d won't different don't even get me for thethere. safethat's kind won't different don't even get me for thethere. safethat's kind of)n't different don't even get me for thethere. safethat's kind of an go there. but that's kind of an example it that and it's what example of it that and it's what matthew goodwin would you know the professor who's written a popular book recently about this whole issue , would call the new whole issue, would call the new elites who have often leading our public institutions and pubuc our public institutions and public services now have come from that background. they've come through the universities as they've kind of inculcated they've been kind of inculcated with these ideas and genuinely think they're being enlightened and progressive , but actually and progressive, but actually are a huge chasm are creating a huge chasm between themselves and mainstream britain . some of them mainstream britain. some of them see it but are afraid to do something else . a lot of them,

something else. a lot of them, i think, because they kind of exist in this cocoon, they just can't see it. yeah. and i don't know— can't see it. yeah. and i don't know if— can't see it. yeah. and i don't know if you-ve— can't see it. yeah. and i don't know if you've seen- if" c . yeah. and i don't know if you've seen the footage. i saw— know if you've seen the footage. i n— know if you've seen the footage. i saw it earlier— know if you've seen the footage. i saw it earlier on— know if you've seen the footage. i saw it earlier on today. it's in the— i saw it earlier on today. it's in the custody— i saw it earlier on today. it's in the custody suite of a police station— in the custody suite of a police station .— in the custody suite of a police station . ano— in the custody suite of a police station . and the— in the custody suite of a police station . and the custody guy, station. and the custody guy, nno— station. and the custody guy, one custody— station. and the custody guy, the custody sergeant goes into the custody sergeant goes into one cou— the custody sergeant goes into one can ano— the custody sergeant goes into the cell and you've got the suspect— the cell and you've got the suspect ano— the cell and you've got the suspect and he— the cell and you've got the suspect and he is handcuffed. non-e— suspect and he is handcuffed. non-ve gon— suspect and he is handcuffed. you've got another two coppers at you've got another two coppers an nne— you've got another two coppers an one noe— you've got another two coppers an one one on— you've got another two coppers at the side of him.— you've got another two coppers at the side of him. the custody guy— at the side of him. the custody guy goes— at the side of him. the custody guy goes in— at the side of him. the custody guy goes in ano— at the side of him. the custody guy goes in and says, right, nns— guy goes in and says, right, nns is— guy goes in and says, right, nns is nno— guy goes in and says, right, this is who i— guy goes in and says, right, this is who i am.— guy goes in and says, right, this is who i am. this is my ou— this is who i am. this is my name. all the— this is who i am. this is my name. all the rest of it asked nn— name. all the rest of it asked nan no— name. all the rest of it asked him to stand— name. all the rest of it asked him to stand up,— name. all the rest of it asked him to stand up, to be searched. anyway— him to stand up, to be searched. anyway nne— him to stand up, to be searched. anyway the criminal had a gun nonon— anyway the criminal had a gun women so— anyway the criminal had a gun hidden, so even— anyway the criminal had a gun hidden, so even though he was in nanoonns— hidden, so even though he was in handcuffs, managed get handcuffs, he managed to get nns— handcuffs, he managed to get nns gun— handcuffs, he managed to get nns gnn onn— handcuffs, he managed to get this gun out and— handcuffs, he managed to get this gun out and he the this gun out and he shot at the onsnooy— this gun out and he shot at the custody sergeant— this gun out and he shot at the custody sergeant and killed him. this gun out and he shot at the cdon'tl sergeant and killed him. this gun out and he shot at the cdon't knoweant and killed him. this gun out and he shot at the cdon't know ifnt and killed him. this gun out and he shot at the cdon't know if you1d killed him. this gun out and he shot at the cdon't know if you saw lled him. this gun out and he shot at the c don't know if you saw that him. i don't know if you saw that footage.— i don't know if you saw that noonage. n-s— i don't know if you saw that footage. it'sjust_ i don't know if you saw that footage. it's just literally neen— footage. it's just literally been released- footage. it's just literally been released in the media today.— today. and it's just it's snoswng. — today. and it's just it's shocking. eye opening. today. and it's just it's- shocking. -eye opening. and shocking. it's eye opening. and i shocking. it's eye opening. and n-an— shocking. it's eye opening. and in anae— shocking. it's eye opening. and in nnan ano— shocking. it's eye opening. and i-at that and |_ shocking. it's eye opening. and i at that and i think, you i look at that and i think, you know,— i look at that and i think, you know—onese- i look at that and i think, you know,_these meni i look at that and i think, you. know,_these men and know, that's what these men and women-dean...— know, that's what these men and women dealing with. they're know, that's what these men and women themselves with. they're know, that's what these men and women themselves right they're know, that's what these men and women themselves right in ey're know, that's what these men and women themselves right in thee putting themselves right in the way on— putting themselves right in the way of-absolute- putting themselves right in the way of absolute scumbags. way of these absolute scumbags. ano— way of these absolute scumbags. ana-ane— way of these absolute scumbags. and are occasionally losing and they are occasionally losing nnen— and they are occasionally losing anew noes— and they are occasionally losing their lives as— and they are occasionally losing their lives as a— and they are occasionally losing their lives as a result. and yean— their lives as a result. and yean n— their lives as a result. and yean, n non-n— their lives as a result. and yeah, i don't know, maybe it's ano— yeah, i don't know, maybe it's an nns— yeah, i don't know, maybe it's and this whole— yeah, i don't know, maybe it's and this whole necessity and desire,— and this whole necessity and desire ny— and this whole necessity and desire by one— and this whole necessity and

desire, by the way, to insist anae— desire, by the way, to insist lnal people — desire, by the way, to insist that people have degrees is why why— that people have degrees is why wny noes— that people have degrees is why wny does a— that people have degrees is why wny does a son— that people have degrees is why why does a cop need a degree? won— why does a cop need a degree? won sell— why does a cop need a degree? won lell ne— why does a cop need a degree? you tell me your— why does a cop need a degree? you tell me your thoughts on anal.— you tell me your thoughts on anal-n— you tell me your thoughts on that.-in touch.- you tell me your thoughts on that. in touch. all the that. get in touch. all the nsnal— that. get in touch. all the nsnal ways. — that. get in touch. all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.uk anyway,— usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.uk anyway, we— usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.uk anyway, we nave— usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.uk anyway, we have been speaking, nawen-l— anyway, we have been speaking, nawen-l we— anyway, we have been speaking, haven't we, about— anyway, we have been speaking, haven't we, about boris lonnson-s— haven't we, about boris johnson's honours list. so we nave. — johnson's honours list. so we nave. ano— johnson's honours list. so we nave. ann l— johnson's honours list. so we have. and i did— johnson's honours list. so we have. and i did mention, didn't l, have. and i did mention, didn't l anal— have. and i did mention, didn't l anal onene— have. and i did mention, didn't i, that there is— have. and i did mention, didn't i, that there is soon to be a sw— i, that there is soon to be a sly joining— i, that there is soon to be a sir joining that— i, that there is soon to be a sirjoining that list. sirjacob noes— sirjoining that list. sirjacob nees nogg— sirjoining that list. sirjacob nees nogg ,— sirjoining that list. sirjacob rees mogg , nonetheless, rees mogg, nonetheless, congratulations , jacob. sir. congratulations, jacob. sir. jacob— congratulations, jacob. sir. jason soon— congratulations, jacob. sir. jacob soon to— congratulations, jacob. sir. jacob soon to be. how do you feel?— jacob soon to be. how do you feel? nnanl— jacob soon to be. how do you feel? thank you— jacob soon to be. how do you feel? thank you so much . rollin feel? thank you so much. well, l-nn— feel? thank you so much. well, l-nn onwonsly— feel? thank you so much. well, i'm obviously delighted and very honoured and flattered that bofis honoured and flattered that boris johnson put me on his list . and why do you think you did make— . and why do you think you did make anal— . and why do you think you did make that cut,— . and why do you think you did make that cut, so— and why do you think you did make that cut, so to speak ? make that cut, so to speak? well— make that cut, so to speak? well .— make that cut, so to speak? well , resignation— make that cut, so to speak? well , resignation honours are well, resignation honours are political honours given to people who have supported an outgoing prime minister. it's in a way , in normal 3 lg 37” m " it's in a way , in normal circumstances, a way, in normal circumstances, the a way, in normal circumstances, no lasa— a way, in normal circumstances, the last opportunity for a

pollnolan— the last opportunity for a pollnolan ,— the last opportunity for a politician , an— the last opportunity for a politician , an who has reached politician, an who has reached the politician, an who has reached one lon— politician, an who has reached one too on— politician, an who has reached nne log on one— politician, an who has reached the top of the pile to thank nnose— the top of the pile to thank lnose people— the top of the pile to thank those people who've helped him along— those people who've helped him along one— those people who've helped him along one way,— those people who've helped him along the way, and boris johnson has along the way, and boris johnson nas neen— along the way, and boris johnson nas been very— along the way, and boris johnson has been very generous in lnolnllng— has been very generous in lnelnolng ne— has been very generous in including me on that list. and wnal— including me on that list. and wnan wonlo— including me on that list. and what would you _ including me on that list. and what would you say to the onnosl — what would you say to the critics? because- what would you say to the critics? f critics? because obviously jacob, there's been lots of conversation about whether or not this list should even have been in first been honoured in the first place. you say to place. what would you say to those critics ? well, i think those critics? well, i think nney— li.” . as? well, i think they misunderstand what the noons— they misunderstand what the honours system _ they misunderstand what the honours system is for , that it honours system is for, that it is honours system is for, that it ls onene— honours system is for, that it ls onene no— honours system is for, that it is there to reward _ honours system is for, that it is there to reward people who nave — is there to reward people who nave neen— is there to reward people who have been involved in political ano— have been involved in political and onnns— have been involved in political and public life— have been involved in political and public life ._ have been involved in political and public life . there are many and public life. there are many noons— and public life. there are many noons anal— and public life. there are many honours that are— and public life. there are many honours that are still given out anlonanoally— honours that are still given out automatically to— honours that are still given out automatically to people like lnoges— automatically to people like judges lo— automatically to people like judges to rikki— automatically to people like judges to rikki neave denies anal— judges to rikki neave denies anal oney— judges to rikki neave denies lnal lney ae— judges to rikki neave denies that they are involved in the nanon— that they are involved in the nanon ano— that they are involved in the nation and an— that they are involved in the nation and an outgoing prime wlnlsnen— nation and an outgoing prime wlnlslen nas— nation and an outgoing prime minister has done a great seawee— minister has done a great sewloe no— minister has done a great service to the— minister has done a great service to the country. whether you— service to the country. whether yon agree— service to the country. whether yon agree wron— service to the country. whether you agree with his— service to the country. whether you agree with his politics or notw— you agree with his politics or nor, nelng— you agree with his politics or not, being prime— you agree with his politics or not, being prime minister is a very— not, being prime minister is a very lnponanr— not, being prime minister is a very important role. it's a very narl— very important role. it's a very narl worllng— very important role. it's a very hard working role— very important role. it's a very hard working role and that for a nnno— hard working role and that for a prime minister— hard working role and that for a prime minister to— hard working role and that for a prime minister to be able to say rnanl— prime minister to be able to say rnanl yon— prime minister to be able to say rnanl yon ro— prime minister to be able to say thank you to those— prime minister to be able to say thank you to those people who nave— thank you to those people who nave nelnel— thank you to those people who have helped make his job a unle— have helped make his job a worn on— have helped make his job a little bit easier— have helped make his job a little bit easier is, i think, oerreerly— little bit easier is, i think,

perfectly reasonable . ' r: perfectly reasonable. and what do perfectly reasonable. and what no yon— perfectly reasonable. and what do you think is a lot of people have actually flagged that some of people that were of the people that were criticised being involved in criticised for being involved in what become known as what is now become known as partygate et cetera. those people have made that list as well. so martin reynolds, for example, being one. of course there are others . what would you there are others. what would you say criticism ? i would say to that criticism? i would say to that criticism? i would say that say to that criticism? i would say rnar rony— say to that criticism? i would say that tony blair- say to that criticism? i would say that tony blair is- say to that criticism? i would say that tony blair is a- li.” . t. v7 i would say that tony blair is a knight of one— say that tony blair is a knight or we saner— say that tony blair is a knight of the garter and— say that tony blair is a knight of the garter and that people wno— of the garter and that people wno are— of the garter and that people who are involved— of the garter and that people who are involved in political ure— who are involved in political llre oon-r— who are involved in political life don't get— who are involved in political life don't get everything right. they— life don't get everything right. they inevitably— life don't get everything right. they inevitably make mistakes, but they inevitably make mistakes, nnr anar— they inevitably make mistakes, on ma an— they inevitably make mistakes, but that an honour is to eognse— but that an honour is to recognise their overall contribution, - recognise their overall contribution, both to service of the contribution, both to service of we oonnrry— contribution, both to service of the country and— contribution, both to service of the country and the individual won— the country and the individual you mentioned— the country and the individual you mentioned worked extremely narl— you mentioned worked extremely narl ln— you mentioned worked extremely narl ln nls— you mentioned worked extremely hard in his role— you mentioned worked extremely hard in his role as— you mentioned worked extremely hard in his role as private seorerary— hard in his role as private seererary ro— hard in his role as private secretary to the prime minister. wonll— secretary to the prime minister. wonlo nave— secretary to the prime minister. would have spent— secretary to the prime minister. would have spent many, many nonrs— would have spent many, many hours devoted— would have spent many, many hours devoted to— would have spent many, many hours devoted to the public senne— hours devoted to the public serwoe .— hours devoted to the public serwoe . r— hours devoted to the public service . i think— hours devoted to the public service . i think it's service. i think it's a penny— service. i think it's a perfectly reasonable recognition of ms— perfectly reasonable recognition of his overall— perfectly reasonable recognition of his overall service . that's of his overall service. that's nor— of his overall service. that's nor oenylng— of his overall service. that's not denying that— of his overall service. that's not denying that in one email he may— not denying that in one email he may nave— not denying that in one email he may naye nano— not denying that in one email he may have made a— not denying that in one email he may have made a mistake. seenne— may have made a mistake. seenne else— may have made a mistake. someone else who- may have made a mistake. someone else who worked very, very hard. nadine dorries quite

surprisingly resigned with immediate effect . about an hour immediate effect. about an hour or so before this list became public. she, of course, wasn't on it. should she have been on that list ? well, this is the that list? well, this is the usa— that list? well, this is the us drawn— that list? well, this is the list drawn up— that list? well, this is the list drawn up by- . 5.7 well, this is the list drawn up by boris . 3.7 well, this is the list drawn up by boris johnson, not list drawn up by boris johnson, nor ny— list drawn up by boris johnson, nor by no— list drawn up by boris johnson, nor by no ,— list drawn up by boris johnson, nor by no , ano— list drawn up by boris johnson, not by me , and approved by the not by me, and approved by the k...— not by me, and approved by the nlng. r— not by me, and approved by the king. i understand— not by me, and approved by the king. i understand from what rye— king. i understand from what we read— king. i understand from what we real ln— king. i understand from what i've read in the— king. i understand from what i've read in the newspapers that rnere-s— i've read in the newspapers that rnere-s neen— i've read in the newspapers that there's been talk— i've read in the newspapers that there's been talk about some of there's been talk about some of one neerages— there's been talk about some of the peerages and— there's been talk about some of the peerages and there are issues relating— the peerages and there are issues relating to the advisory oonnlrree. — issues relating to the advisory oonnlrree. r— issues relating to the advisory committee. i don't think there any— committee. i don't think there any real— committee. i don't think there was any real problem with nnonnng— was any real problem with announcing peerages in advance anar— announcing peerages in advance rnar n— announcing peerages in advance rnar n yon— announcing peerages in advance that if you take— announcing peerages in advance that if you take harold macmillan,— that if you take harold macmillan, he was first offered his macmillan, he was first offered nls peerage— macmillan, he was first offered his peerage when— macmillan, he was first offered his peerage when he resigned as nnno— his peerage when he resigned as prime minister— his peerage when he resigned as prime minister and then finally lnoloarel— prime minister and then finally indicated that— prime minister and then finally indicated that he— prime minister and then finally indicated that he would accept it indicated that he would accept lr anonr— indicated that he would accept lr anonr zo— indicated that he would accept it about 20 years— indicated that he would accept it about 20 years later. so the rosa— it about 20 years later. so the loea anar— it about 20 years later. so the idea that peerages are always gwen— idea that peerages are always glyen wnen— idea that peerages are always given when first— idea that peerages are always given when first offered isn't aornally— given when first offered isn't actually true _ given when first offered isn't actually true . _ given when first offered isn't actually true . ' r: given when first offered isn't actually true . r: oar: actually true. and nadine actually true. and nadine actually did an interview this afternoon. and among the things that she said, she was saying that she said, she was saying that she said, she was saying that she would have been a fantastic addition to the house of lords, not least because of

her backstory coming from a very poor area, achieving lots of different things in commerce , in different things in commerce, in politics, etcetera. she was suggesting, in fact, she made it quite clear that one of the reasons she feels that she isn't now going to be in the house of lords is because she didn't go to oxford and cambridge. do you think there's any truth to perhaps suggestion that it's perhaps the suggestion that it's a class thing that if you are bafic a class thing that if you are basic working class, someone that comes from the, you know, the basics in life that you weren't ever make it to the house of lords ? i hope not. house of lords? i hope not. i none— house of lords? i hope not. i nope were— house of lords? i hope not. i nope a— house of lords? i hope not. i hope we're a more— 37 i hope not. i hope we're a more meritocratic soolery— hope we're a more meritocratic soolery rnan— hope we're a more meritocratic society than that— hope we're a more meritocratic society than that ._ hope we're a more meritocratic society than that . but i society than that. but i oenalnly— society than that. but i certainly think that nadine wonlo— certainly think that nadine wonlo ne— certainly think that nadine wonlo no a— certainly think that nadine would be a wonderful member of the would be a wonderful member of we nonse— would be a wonderful member of we nonse or— would be a wonderful member of the house of lords.— would be a wonderful member of the house of lords. she is a ranrasrlo— the house of lords. she is a fantastic politician, a feisty individual,— fantastic politician, a feisty individual, somebody who makes her individual, somebody who makes ner wows— individual, somebody who makes her views known— individual, somebody who makes her views known to _ individual, somebody who makes her views known to all and snow— her views known to all and snnory ano— her views known to all and snnory ano ls— her views known to all and sundry and is a— her views known to all and sundry and is a very thoughtful, capable— sundry and is a very thoughtful, capable individual. i'm very, very— capable individual. i'm very, very prone.— capable individual. i'm very, very proud. nadine and i think sne— very proud. nadine and i think sne males— very proud. nadine and i think she makes an— very proud. nadine and i think she makes an addition to any assembly— she makes an addition to any assembly that— she makes an addition to any assembly that she is part of . assembly that she is part of. ann— assembly that she is part of. one laser.— assembly that she is part of. one laser. we— assembly that she is part of. and jacob, we are— assembly that she is part of. and jacob, we are all- assembly that she is part of. and jacob, we are all familiar. we'll remember many of us, the interview that you once did, a

little boy in the back of your dad's car. i think you were reading the financial times remembers that. no dodi do that. we do. and i wonder, you were saying you had these ambitions. you're too young. you can't possibly have seen it. well, actually, you'd be- . well, actually, you'd be surprised leanse— actually, you'd be surprised because one— actually, you'd be surprised because one of— actually, you'd be surprised because one of my panel, as well— because one of my panel, as well sne— because one of my panel, as well, she brought— because one of my panel, as well, she brought it up. she's yonnger— well, she brought it up. she's even younger than me. she can remember it. and i wonder, what would young jacob make of this, sir? rees—mogg ? well sir? jacob rees—mogg? well i mean, look, one of the reasons i'm delighted is that when i was a child, my father got awarded a knighthood at about the same age as i now am. and i remember that it as i now am. and i remember that n was— as i now am. and i remember that n exolrlng— as i now am. and i remember that it was exciting as— as i now am. and i remember that it was exciting as his— as i now am. and i remember that it was exciting as his son- and i remember that it was exciting as his son then ano— it was exciting as his son then and no— it was exciting as his son then and .— it was exciting as his son then and . rye— it was exciting as his son then and now . i've managed to achieve and now. i've managed to achieve sonernlng— and now. i've managed to achieve sonernlng ln— and now. i've managed to achieve something in line— and now. i've managed to achieve something in line with my lower,— something in line with my rarner, ano— something in line with my father, and i— something in line with my father, and i must confess that anar— father, and i must confess that rnar ls— father, and i must confess that that is something— father, and i must confess that that is something that, looking noel— that is something that, looking back ar— that is something that, looking nasl ar ny— that is something that, looking back at my younger self, i own-r— back at my younger self, i didn't think— back at my younger self, i didn't think i'd— back at my younger self, i didn't think i'd have much onnonnnlry— didn't think i'd have much opportunity of_ didn't think i'd have much opportunity of doing. and i'm onwonsly— opportunity of doing. and i'm onwonsly very— opportunity of doing. and i'm obviously very pleased. ' 3 opportunity of doing. and i'm obviously very pleased. ' r: obviously very pleased. and has this inspired your children then, the way it's inspired you and your father ?

and it happened to your father? i don't know. one of them's rnnnlng— i don't know. one of them's running about— i don't know. one of them's running about just off camera. i probably— running about just off camera. i probably shouldn't . running about just off camera. i probably shouldn't. he's disappeared. _ probably shouldn't. he's disappeared. otherwise i'd lnwre— disappeared. otherwise i'd lnwre nin— disappeared. otherwise i'd invite him over— disappeared. otherwise i'd invite him over and he could probably— invite him over and he could probably no— invite him over and he could probably be delighted to tell yon.— probably be delighted to tell yon-yean— probably be delighted to tell yon-yean ro— probably be delighted to tell you. yeah, i'd love to hear you. but yeah, i'd love to hear from— you. but yeah, i'd love to hear from nin— you. but yeah, i'd love to hear from him what— you. but yeah, i'd love to hear from him what he— you. but yeah, i'd love to hear from him what he thinks his daddy— from him what he thinks his daddy receiving— from him what he thinks his daddy receiving this. r: daddy receiving this. i'd be raselnarel. — daddy receiving this. i'd be fascinated. but— daddy receiving this. i'd be fascinated. but if he's too busy playing, then what can i do ? i'm playing, then what can i do? i'm astonished. he's astonished. quite frankly, he's not watching dewbs not inside. jacob watching dewbs & what are you all thinking ? & co what are you all thinking? well, i'm sorry about that. yes on— well, i'm sorry about that. yes on ne-s— well, i'm sorry about that. yes on ne-s insa— well, i'm sorry about that. yes but he's just back— well, i'm sorry about that. yes but he's just back from playing onelen— but he's just back from playing orlsler, so— but he's just back from playing cricket, so cricket— but he's just back from playing cricket, so cricket is competition- cricket, so cricket is competition with all the best rnlngs— competition with all the best rnlngs as— competition with all the best things as well. _ competition with all the best things as well. .. things as well. i'll let you off and you can all watch it on catch up. but for now, thank you very much, jacob rees—mogg. right. i very much, jacob rees—mogg. right. i shall go to a break. when i come back, i want your response on some of those comments that we've just been covering, the police, the honours list. what do you make to it all? i also want to ask you a very simple question. do you a very simple question. do you if you have a mortgage you think if you have a mortgage and work, you should be able and you work, you should be able to deducted to have your mortgage deducted from before you pay

from your salary before you pay income and things like income tax and things like national insurance so your mortgage straight out of your salary, your gross i salary, your gross salary, i think what do you think is bonkers. what do you think? see you

britain's news. channel | hello— britain's news. channel . hello there- britain's news. channel . hello there i'm - britain's news. channel hello there i'm michelle dewberry right through dewberry with you right through till seven alongside me the author unionist author and trade unionist paul embery director of embery and the uk director of something definitely need in something we definitely need in this country, the common sense society . emma webb. how does society. emma webb. how does that the way? if that work, by the way? if anyone's got a bit of common sense can they just sense about them, can they just come join your society? come and join your society? come to one of our events? come along to one of our events? or.— come along to one of our events? on-well— come along to one of our events? on-well-yon- come along to one of our events?| on-well-yon go. oh, michelle well, there you go. rnal-s— oh, michelle well, there you go. rnar-s an— oh, michelle well, there you go. rnar-s an open— oh, michelle well, there you go. that's an open invitation,- that's an open invitation, everyone, think you everyone, isn't it? i think you lot at home have got a bit of common sense about you as well. there go. we could have this there you go. we could have this mass we could all mass movement. we could all come. one of come. would take over one of your events. be fantastic. your events. it'd be fantastic. anyway, of you guys getting anyway, lots of you guys getting in you. i was in touch. one of you. i was asking, is there anyone in nadine constituency nadine dorries constituency says, her says, yes, i am in her constituent. see now and constituent. see right now and i'm disappointed she's i'm very disappointed she's decided fully

decided to resign. but i fully understand might have understand why she might have done so if she wasn't on that list for a period. you reckon, especially that priti especially given that priti patel on list, you don't patel is on the list, you don't think should have if think she should have been if nadine quite make the nadine didn't quite make the cut? lots of you saying, you know about whether you're kind of divided, whether or not this list should have gone ahead and, you know, you're saying, why do people get honours when they're basically doing their job and being very well paid for them? ian says, michelle, next time you address jacob rees—mogg, please can you curtsy ? maybe i please can you curtsy? maybe i did. or maybe you didn't see me. you don't see my legs anymore at the you don't know the moment, so you don't know what i did. but we know said, yeah, well, don't give my secrets away. guys. right? secrets away. you guys. right? do have a do you work? do you have a mortgage? so, do you think mortgage? if so, do you think that a new campaign that there's a new campaign that's suggesting that's been launched suggesting that's been launched suggesting that now your mortgage could be taken pay packet taken out of your pay packet before it even hits before your it even hits anything like tax national insurance and all the rest of it? i think this is ridiculous. i think it's nonsensical. i think it's fantasy economics .

think it's fantasy economics. and yeah, i'm not really on the fence with this one. do you agree with me, paul? no, i think you're agree with me, paul? no, i think yon eonolerely— agree with me, paul? no, i think you're completely wrong.- ragtzrz 31.7 no, i think you're completely wrong. i think it's you're completely wrong. i think lr-s an— you're completely wrong. i think it's an excellent— you're completely wrong. i think it's an excellent idea. well, you— it's an excellent idea. well, yon wonll. — it's an excellent idea. well, you would. well, i would. and i'll you would. well, i would. and r-ll roll— you would. well, i would. and r-ll roll-wny. — you would. well, i would. and i'll tell why. because we i'll tell you why. because we nrsr— i'll tell you why. because we nrsrlall— i'll tell you why. because we first-all, we're— i'll tell you why. because we first-all, we're in- i'll tell you why. because we first all, we're in the first of all, we're in the middle— first of all, we're in the middle-cost- first of all, we're in the middle cost of living middle of a cost of living onsls— middle of a cost of living crisis. yeah— middle of a cost of living crisis. yeah at— middle of a cost of living crisis. yeah at the same time as gor— crisis. yeah at the same time as gor a— crisis. yeah at the same time as we've got a housing crisis, wnen— we've got a housing crisis, which-obviously- we've got a housing crisis, which obviously pushed, you which is obviously pushed, you know,— which is obviously pushed, you know-ane— which is obviously pushed, you know,_the price- which is obviously pushed, you know,_the price of- know, pushed the price of property— know, pushed the price of mommy-with- know, pushed the price of property with interest rates property up with interest rates going— property up with interest rates going-r— property up with interest rates golngl, ane— property up with interest rates golngl, rne oosr— property up with interest rates going , the cost living going up, the cost of living orlsls— going up, the cost of living onsls anar— going up, the cost of living crisis that is— going up, the cost of living crisis that is really a double wnanny— crisis that is really a double wnanny for— crisis that is really a double whammy for people . so you have whammy for people. so you have got whammy for people. so you have gor nllllons— whammy for people. so you have got millions families across got millions of families across the got millions of families across ans-ar— got millions of families across rne-ar ane— got millions of families across the at the moment who the country at the moment who are the country at the moment who gennlnely— the country at the moment who are genuinely struggling to make onos— are genuinely struggling to make ends neen— are genuinely struggling to make ends meet. yeah— are genuinely struggling to make ends meet. yeah now we have rnese— ends meet. yeah now we have rnese salary— ends meet. yeah now we have these salary sacrifice schemes for rnlngs— these salary sacrifice schemes for things like— these salary sacrifice schemes for things like pensions , so we for things like pensions, so we do like— for things like pensions, so we do like childcare— for things like pensions, so we do like childcare for example, leanse— do like childcare for example, because we understand that rnlngs— because we understand that rnlngs lilo— because we understand that things like pensions and onlllsare— things like pensions and childcare are— things like pensions and childcare are often pretty unavoidable— childcare are often pretty unavoidable things. they're part of ne— unavoidable things. they're part of the necessities— unavoidable things. they're part of the necessities of life, the wings— of the necessities of life, the rnlngs anar— of the necessities of life, the things that we— of the necessities of life, the things that we all have to pay for ano— things that we all have to pay for and housing— things that we all have to pay for and housing costs , as far as for and housing costs, as far as m — for and housing costs, as far as m concerned— for and housing costs, as far as i'm concerned, fall— for and housing costs, as far as i'm concerned, fall into that answer. — i'm concerned, fall into that answer. so— i'm concerned, fall into that bracket. so how— i'm concerned, fall into that bracket. so how is it fair then? so bracket. so how is it fair then? so yon— bracket. so how is it fair then? so yon-ger— bracket. so how is it fair then? so you get reasonable, so you would get reasonable, i oon-r— so you would get reasonable, i oon-r-ro— so you would get reasonable, i oon-r-ro say— so you would get reasonable, i don't to say actually for don't think, to say actually for yonr— don't think, to say actually for yonr nonslng— don't think, to say actually for your housing particularly

your housing costs, particularly onrlng— your housing costs, particularly onrlng-llwng- your housing costs, particularly during living crisis. during a cost of living crisis. ves— during a cost of living crisis. yes we— during a cost of living crisis. yes we wit— during a cost of living crisis. yes we will make- during a cost of living crisis. yes we will make that tax deductible— yes we will make that tax deductible ._ yes we will make that tax deductible . we will say there deductible. we will say there won-r— deductible. we will say there won-r ne— deductible. we will say there won-r no any— deductible. we will say there won't be any tax— deductible. we will say there won't be any tax or national insurance liability on and insurance liability on that. and larger— insurance liability on that. and larger yon— insurance liability on that. and target you basically get a pay nse— target you basically get a pay rise as homeowner. /r:::r. rise as a homeowner. you basically— rise as a homeowner. you basically-a— rise as a homeowner. you basically-a pay- rise as a homeowner. you basically a pay rise basically get a pay rise compared your colleague that compared to your colleague that isn't a homeowner. well, i think i mean, look, i think more should be done for renters as well. and i'm open minded about now— well. and i'm open minded about now-san— well. and i'm open minded about now-can neln— well. and i'm open minded about how-can help renters- and i'm open minded about how can help renters more, how we can help renters more, on— how we can help renters more, nnrllon-r— how we can help renters more, nnrllon-r-lr— how we can help renters more, but don't it should be a but i don't think it should be a ro— but i don't think it should be a race to-bottom. _ but i don't think it should be a race to bottom. michelle, race to the bottom. michelle, i rnlnl— race to the bottom. michelle, i rnlnllwe— race to the bottom. michelle, i rnlnllwe an— race to the bottom. michelle, i thinklwe can say— race to the bottom. michelle, i think we can say to people think if we can say to people lnrlng— think if we can say to people onrlng a— think if we can say to people onnng a oosr— think if we can say to people during a cost of— think if we can say to people during a cost of living crisis anar— during a cost of living crisis anal—san- during a cost of living crisis. that—can-some that actually we can take some of that actually we can take some or-nressnre— that actually we can take some of-pressure off— that actually we can take some of-pressure off of- that actually we can take some of pressure off of you and of the pressure off of you and we no— of the pressure off of you and we no anar— of the pressure off of you and we to ma ny— of the pressure off of you and we do that by reducing your tax llanlllry— we do that by reducing your tax llanlllry on— we do that by reducing your tax liability on your— liability on your mortgage, i rnlnl— liability on your mortgage, i think-entirely- think that is an entirely reasonable— think that is an entirely reasonable thing. . reasonable thing. i think it's fancy— reasonable thing. i think it's fancy and i'll be signing the petition. iwould i'd fancy and i'll be signing the petition. i would i'd be in now— petition. i would i'd be in raonr or— petition. i would i'd be in favour of lowering- i would i'd be in favour of lowering tax rates. by favour of lowering tax rates. bit-wavy— favour of lowering tax rates. ny-way. so— favour of lowering tax rates. by-way, so everybody- favour of lowering tax rates. . by -way, so everybody gets to by the way, so everybody gets to keep bit more in keep a little bit more money in their packet. i would their own pay packet. i would support like that. but support something like that. but this policy for me is madness . this policy for me is madness. emma, well emma, your thoughts? well i can sort see where you're coming sort of see where you're coming from because i appreciate that people are struggling right now . but also, if you're going to

do . but also, if you're going to no rnls— . but also, if you're going to no ms for— . but also, if you're going to do this for people— but also, if you're going to do this for people who are paying— do this for people who are paying mortgage, you have paying a mortgage, you have to lnolnle— paying a mortgage, you have to include renters— paying a mortgage, you have to include renters in— paying a mortgage, you have to include renters in surely. include renters in that, surely. so include renters in that, surely. so-ro— include renters in that, surely. so-ro ne— include renters in that, surely. so-ro no insa— include renters in that, surely. so to be just everybody's so it has to be just everybody's llwng— so it has to be just everybody's llwng oosrs— so it has to be just everybody's living costs going— so it has to be just everybody's living costs going towards paying— living costs going towards paying accommodation . 3.3 paying for accommodation. and rnen— paying for accommodation. and wen-can— paying for accommodation. and rnen-ean nw— paying for accommodation. and then-can now if— paying for accommodation. and then-can now if you- paying for accommodation. and then-can now if you live. paying for accommodation. and then can now if you live in paying for accommodation. and tihome can now if you live in paying for accommodation. and tihome with now if you live in paying for accommodation. and tihome with your if you live in paying for accommodation. and tihome with your parents, ve in paying for accommodation. and tihome with your parents, now a home with your parents, now all your colleagues that are living their don't living with their i don't know, they've their now, they've got their house now, they're all those guys they're renting. all those guys are a pay rise. is are getting a pay rise. how is that fair? it also seems to that fair? and it also seems to be unnecessarily complicated. so you the government is so if you if the government is losing— so if you if the government is loslng rar— so if you if the government is losing tax revenue from people paying— losing tax revenue from people saying rnelr— losing tax revenue from people paying their mortgages with this snene— paying their mortgages with this snene ,— paying their mortgages with this snene , rnen— paying their mortgages with this scheme , then that's going to scheme, then that's going to nave— scheme, then that's going to nave ro— scheme, then that's going to nave o no— scheme, then that's going to have to be made— scheme, then that's going to have to be made up somewhere else,— have to be made up somewhere else, snrely. — have to be made up somewhere else, snrely. r— have to be made up somewhere else, surely. i mean, i'm not a eonornlsr— else, surely. i mean, i'm not a eonornlsr onl— else, surely. i mean, i'm not a economist, but this seems sort of common sense— economist, but this seems sort of common sense to me that that nas— of common sense to me that that nas ro— of common sense to me that that nas o no— of common sense to me that that nas o be male— of common sense to me that that has to be made up.— of common sense to me that that has to be made up. so surely the resa— has to be made up. so surely the nesr-ro— has to be made up. so surely the nesr-ro lo— has to be made up. so surely the best-to do would- has to be made up. so surely the best to do would just be best thing to do would just be lower—ane- best thing to do would just be lower—the board. best thing to do would just be. lower—the board and lower taxes across the board and aornally— lower taxes across the board and aornally-a— lower taxes across the board and actually-a more— actually have a more liberal economic system. i completely agree with and i can't get agree with that and i can't get my head around why a conservative government has the highest tax burden in god knows how many years. surely that is absolutely counterproductive. and even if you are a labour person or of the left or

whatever, surely you would support lower taxes, wouldn't you? and if that's the case, then why aren't rishi sunak enacting that? let me know your thoughts. tax deduction for mortgage earners or not? see you

in two. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 alongside with the author and trade unionist paul embery and the uk director of the common sense society, webb . lots sense society, emma webb. lots of getting in touch and of you guys getting in touch and ihave of you guys getting in touch and i have to say i have been monumentally outvoted in that last topic. i'm arguing that deducting people's mortgage from their wages pretax is ridiculous . their wages pretax is ridiculous. i am their wages pretax is ridiculous . i am literally ridiculous. i am literally outvoted . i don't think there is outvoted. i don't think there is a single one of you out there that that agrees with me. why not? i was praising you all for having basic common sense. rhiannon. i'm going to take it

all back a minute. if we're all back in a minute. if we're not careful, just. just. just lower taxes. give everyone a little more money their little bit more money in their own pocket to decide how they spend, are we creating these spend, why are we creating these daft schemes which will daft new schemes which will disincentivize a people disincentivize a lot of people or disadvantaged a lot of people if they don't own their own homes? maybe i'm homes? i don't know. maybe i'm going no one out going mad because no one out there seems to agree with me. anyway, nakedness, anyway, let's talk nakedness, shall not? it is indeed shall we? why not? it is indeed friday. there's a pub and to everyone in there is like a family pub and two people strolled in their naturist, strolled in their naturist, strolled into the pub, ordered some drinks, sat down and had their drink. really their food and drink. it really has divided people. some people saying that the pub should have refused to serve them. i always thought, confess i thought thought, and i confess i thought it illegal to be naked in it was illegal to be naked in public. i learned today that it is not, but i think it should be. so you don't think it'll slang— be. so you don't think it'll sranl nn— be. so you don't think it'll sranl no in— be. so you don't think it'll stand up in court- so you don't think it'll stand up in court then? oh. do you— stand up in court then? oh. do yon see— stand up in court then? oh. do yon wnar— stand up in court then? oh. do you see what he— stand up in court then? oh. do you see what he did? rill; you see what he did? how long nave— you see what he did? how long have yon— you see what he did? how long have you been working on that for? he's been practising his 9395 for? he's been practising his gags all day long. i bet you chip gags all day long. i bet you one nln — gags all day long. i bet you

chip him across.— gags all day long. i bet you chip him across. i'll- ;; to? j; i bet you chip him across. i'll knock ;; an? jr; i bet you chip him across. i'll knock them in ne— chip him across. i'll knock them in we pub-— chip him across. i'll knock them in the pub. should— chip him across. i'll knock them in the pub. should have refused to in the pub. should have refused ro sewe— in the pub. should have refused ro serve anon.— in the pub. should have refused to serve them. of— in the pub. should have refused to serve them. of course, leanse— to serve them. of course, because there _ to serve them. of course, because there were there were ranllles— because there were there were families there. _ because there were there were families there. and i understand the families there. and i understand we pub— families there. and i understand no one nas— families there. and i understand the pub has come— families there. and i understand the pub has come out and released— the pub has come out and released a— the pub has come out and released a statement and used the released a statement and used we wno— released a statement and used we llnl or— released a statement and used we llnl or go— released a statement and used the kind of go to— released a statement and used the kind of go to explain action nowadays— the kind of go to explain action nowadays, which _ the kind of go to explain action nowadays, which is we welcome people— nowadays, which is we welcome people or— nowadays, which is we welcome people or all— nowadays, which is we welcome people of all backgrounds in the or— people of all backgrounds in the name of inclusivity and all of rnls— name of inclusivity and all of ms son— name of inclusivity and all of ms son or— name of inclusivity and all of this sort of nonsense. again, nor— this sort of nonsense. again, not understanding, as we were saying— not understanding, as we were saying earlier— not understanding, as we were saying earlier in— not understanding, as we were saying earlier in the show, that by by— saying earlier in the show, that by by lnolnolng— saying earlier in the show, that by by including some people who nave— by by including some people who nave gon— by by including some people who naye gor, yon— by by including some people who have got, you know, pretty crackers , pot— have got, you know, pretty crackers , pot views and crackers, pot views and llresryles— crackers, pot views and lifestyles ,_ crackers, pot views and lifestyles , you are sometimes lifestyles, you are sometimes exolnllng— lifestyles, you are sometimes excluding other— lifestyles, you are sometimes excluding other people. and i rnlnl— excluding other people. and i rnlnl a— excluding other people. and i think a number— excluding other people. and i think a number of customers with families— think a number of customers with families complained rightly so. ano— families complained rightly so. and r— families complained rightly so. and r rnlnl— families complained rightly so. and i think social— families complained rightly so. and i think social conventions are and i think social conventions lnponanr.— and i think social conventions are important. actually you know,— are important. actually you know if— are important. actually you know, if someone wants to be a narnnsr,— know, if someone wants to be a narnnsr, nne— know, if someone wants to be a narnnsr, nne ,— know, if someone wants to be a naturist, fine , they— know, if someone wants to be a naturist, fine , they should go naturist, fine, they should go to naturist, fine, they should go o a— naturist, fine, they should go to a designated— naturist, fine, they should go to a designated naturist beach . to a designated naturist beach. rnere— to a designated naturist beach. rnere are— to a designated naturist beach. there are places,— to a designated naturist beach. there are places, camps where yon— there are places, camps where yon an— there are places, camps where yon go— there are places, camps where yon go ano— there are places, camps where you can go and do— there are places, camps where you can go and do that sort of rnlng. — you can go and do that sort of thing. absolutely— you can go and do that sort of thing. absolutely fine. no issue wran— thing. absolutely fine. no issue wlrn anal.— thing. absolutely fine. no issue with that. but— thing. absolutely fine. no issue with that. but it— thing. absolutely fine. no issue with that. but it strikes me anar— with that. but it strikes me rnar sonne— with that. but it strikes me that some people just do it for the that some people just do it for we snook— that some people just do it for the shock value. _ that some people just do it for the shock value. and i think anar— the shock value. and i think rnar walling— the shock value. and i think that walking into a pub with

families— that walking into a pub with families completely stark naked, you families completely stark naked, yon—long— families completely stark naked, yon—lolng n- families completely stark naked, yon—long n for- you are probably doing it for no— you are probably doing it for rne-walne— you are probably doing it for the-value-you- the shock value and you snonlon-r— the shock value and you shouldn't if shouldn't really complain if people— shouldn't really complain if people unsettled by that people are unsettled by that andr— people are unsettled by that anrl yon— people are unsettled by that and, you know,— people are unsettled by that and, you know, have a have a one— and, you know, have a have a one pael— and, you know, have a have a one last ar— and, you know, have a have a bite back at you.— and, you know, have a have a bite back at you. emma yeah, i rnlnl— bite back at you. emma yeah, i rnlnl rney— bite back at you. emma yeah, i think they should— bite back at you. emma yeah, i think they should in fact never nlnl— think they should in fact never mind nor— think they should in fact never mind not serving— think they should in fact never mind not serving them. i think they— mind not serving them. i think rney snonll— mind not serving them. i think they should have immediately been asked to the premises been asked to leave the premises as don't, i agree. i actually, as i don't, i agree. i actually, i thought the public indecency was, was, wasn't, wasn't it wasn't legal . um, but you know, wasn't legal. um, but you know, i just i just think that when you look at the some of the well , anyway, i just think it's wrong. they shouldn't they shouldn't be allowed to do it. i'm not going to let it go at rea— i'm not going to let it go at rea nne.— i'm not going to let it go at tea time. she's— i'm not going to let it go at tea time. she's talking about wnen— tea time. she's talking about wnen yon— tea time. she's talking about when you look— tea time. she's talking about when you look at— tea time. she's talking about when you look at it, we don't need— when you look at it, we don't need ro— when you look at it, we don't need to look— when you look at it, we don't need to look at— when you look at it, we don't need to look at the specifics, do need to look at the specifics, no we— need to look at the specifics, no ar— need to look at the specifics, do we, at this— need to look at the specifics, do we, at this time of night? we all-wnar— do we, at this time of night? we all-wnar we— do we, at this time of night? we all-what we-about.. all know what we talk about. anyway. — all know what we talk about. anyway. r— all know what we talk about. anyway, i remember mrs. bobbitt all know what we talk about. anyiaty, i remember mrs. bobbitt all know what we talk about. anyi at arade nember mrs. bobbitt all know what we talk about. anyi at arade dam.er mrs. bobbitt all know what we talk about. anyiat arade dam. if mrs. bobbitt all know what we talk about. anyi at arade dam. if mrs. cameitt was at arade dam. if you came naron-yr nns- was at arade dam. if you came near-your bits and. near me with your bits and preces— near me with your bits and pieces nanglng— near me with your bits and pieces hanging you probably pieces hanging out, you probably wonlon-r— pieces hanging out, you probably wonlon-r-wery— pieces hanging out, you probably wouldn't-very-if- pieces hanging out, you probably wouldn't very if my wouldn't fare very well if my onlo— wouldn't fare very well if my onllo was— wouldn't fare very well if my child was there. _ wouldn't fare very well if my child was there. that is for anyway— child was there. that is for sure. anyway each to their own. r-n — sure. anyway each to their own. r-n -ro— sure. anyway each to their own. r-n -ro say— sure. anyway each to their own. r-n-ro say in- sure. anyway each to their own. i'm-to say in this- i'm supposed to say in this crazy—we- i'm supposed to say in this. ozeray—w lwe i'm supposed to say in this- crazy _we live in, crazy new world that we live in, i crazy new world that we live in, r wil— crazy new world that we live in, r will say— crazy new world that we live in, rwlll say-pnr- crazy new world that we live in, rwlll say-pnr n- crazy new world that we live in, i will say put it away. i will say instead, put it away. eer— i will say instead, put it away. eel-slowes— i will say instead, put it away.

get-clothes on, - i will say instead, put it away. get clothes on, pack it in. get your clothes on, pack it in. erow— get your clothes on, pack it in. erow np— get your clothes on, pack it in. snow np. reigns— get your clothes on, pack it in. grow up. right, everyone. that's all-gon— grow up. right, everyone. that's all-gor. ron— grow up. right, everyone. that's all-got. for. time- grow up. right, everyone. that's all got. for. time have all i've got. for. time have a ranrasrlo— all i've got. for. time have a fantastic night.— all i've got. for. time have a fantastic night. don't go anywnere. — fantastic night. don't go anywhere. -see- fantastic night. don't go anywhere. see you, anywhere. i will see you, rnongn— anywhere. i will see you, though, monday. enjoy though, on monday. enjoy the snn—enr-oy- sun. everybody enjoy it. evening.— sun. everybody enjoy it. evening, deakin sun. everybody enjoy it. evening,-deakin with evening, alex. deakin here with yonr— evening, alex. deakin here with yonr-wearner— evening, alex. deakin here withi your-weather-from your latest weather update from the your latest weather update from rne—en— your latest weather update from rne—en news l your latest weather update from i the—gb news. the the met office for gb news. the wealner-s— the met office for gb news. the weather's changing— the met office for gb news. the weather's changing this weekend. now most it will stay dry now for most it will stay dry wran— now for most it will stay dry wlrn nazy— now for most it will stay dry with hazy sunshine, but it's going— with hazy sunshine, but it's going ro— with hazy sunshine, but it's going no le— with hazy sunshine, but it's going to be-and- with hazy sunshine, but it's going to be and that going to be hotter and that lnreaseo— going to be hotter and that increased humidity going to be hotter and that- increased-humidity may increased heat and humidity may spark—lowl spark some thunderstorms. low pressnre slown— spark some thunderstorms. low pressure down to— spark some thunderstorms. low pressure down to the southwest insa— pressure down to the southwest insr eneonrageo— pressure down to the southwest just encouraged the winds to np— just encouraged the winds to np non — just encouraged the winds to come up from the south, bringing wran— come up from the south, bringing wlrnlwarner— come up from the south, bringing withlwarmer and— come up from the south, bringing with warmer and more humid with it warmer and more humid air. with it warmer and more humid nonse— with it warmer and more humid air. hence while— with it warmer and more humid air. hence while we have that thunderstorm _ air. hence while we have that thunderstorm risk , we could even thunderstorm risk, we could even see thunderstorm risk, we could even r— thunderstorm risk, we could even r or— thunderstorm risk, we could even r or 2— thunderstorm risk, we could even see i or 2 tonight— thunderstorm risk, we could even see i or 2 tonight across the sonrn—wesr— see i or 2 tonight across the south—west of— see i or 2 tonight across the south—west of england. but for most— south—west of england. but for most rr— south—west of england. but for most lr wip— south—west of england. but for most, it will be— south—west of england. but for most, it will be a— south—west of england. but for most, it will be a dry night. rnar— most, it will be a dry night. rnar clona— most, it will be a dry night. that cloud just— most, it will be a dry night. that cloud just coming back lnlanl— that cloud just coming back inland midlands, parts inland over the midlands, parts of inland over the midlands, parts or-rnglano- inland over the midlands, parts of-england and- inland over the midlands, parts of england and eastern of northeast england and eastern soorlano— scotland where it has been perslsrenr— scotland where it has been persistent for— scotland where it has been persistent for a— scotland where it has been persistent for a long time now. renperarnres— persistent for a long time now. temperatures will— persistent for a long time now. temperatures will drop down to single— temperatures will drop down to single ngnres— temperatures will drop down to single figures, particularly. over—spors. over the north in rural spots. onl— over the north in rural spots. on slown— over the north in rural spots. but down lthe _ over the north in rural spots. but down the south, staying but down to the south, staying in ne— but down to the south, staying in we reens— but down to the south, staying in the teens, quite a warm nlgnr. — in the teens, quite a warm nlgnr. a— in the teens, quite a warm nlgnr. a sign— in the teens, quite a warm night. a sign of- in the teens, quite a warm night. a sign of things to come peanse— night. a sign of things to come because -warm _ night. a sign of things to come because warm humid air because that warm or humid air is because that warm or humid air ls spreallng— because that warm or humid air is spreading further north. and wlrn—neawy- with it, the risk of heavy showers. most- with it, the risk of heavy showers. most will have a dry llne— showers. most will have a dry llne slan— showers. most will have a dry

llne sran ro— showers. most will have a dry fine start to saturday. the clona— fine start to saturday. the cloud - melt - fine start to saturday. the cloud melt away fine start to saturday. the cloud -melt away the cloud should melt away from the lowlands— cloud should melt away from the rllllanls onl— cloud should melt away from the midlands, but may— cloud should melt away from the midlands, but may cling to the soasr— midlands, but may cling to the ooasr ol— midlands, but may cling to the coast of north—east england and easerrn— coast of north—east england and easern-ano— coast of north—east england and eastern - and then - coast of north—east england and eastern and then the eastern scotland and then the sowners— showers break out, hit and miss, not showers break out, hit and miss, nor—saronlng- showers break out, hit and miss, not—catching them,| not everywhere, catching them, but not everywhere, catching them, on wnere — not everywhere, catching them, on wnere rney— not everywhere, catching them, but where they do— not everywhere, catching them, but where they do occur, they oonll — but where they do occur, they oonll le — but where they do occur, they could be thundery and they're lelng— could be thundery and they're lelng-rnls- could be thundery and they're being this increase in being caused by this increase in renperarnre.— being caused by this increase in temperature-could- being caused by this increase in temperature. could touch 30 temperature. we could touch 30 celslns. — temperature. we could touch 30 celslns. lwlll— temperature. we could touch 30 celsius. lwill be— temperature. we could touch 30 celsius. will be much celsius. it will be a much warmer, much more humid day for the warmer, much more humid day for rne-nalorlry— warmer, much more humid day for rne-nalorlry .— warmer, much more humid day for the-majority . and— warmer, much more humid day for the majority . and that the vast majority. and that porenrlal— the vast majority. and that potential for— the vast majority. and that potential for thunderstorms onlnners— potential for thunderstorms continues into— potential for thunderstorms continues into the evening . the continues into the evening. the neawy— continues into the evening. the neayy sowners— continues into the evening. the heavy showers will then drift lnnner— heavy showers will then drift further north _ heavy showers will then drift further north through night further north through the night into further north through the night lnro-rlne— further north through the night into time northern into for a time northern lrelanrl— into for a time northern ireland, parts- into for a time northern ireland, parts of scotland lslanls— ireland, parts of scotland islands and— ireland, parts of scotland islands and were much larger ar— islands and were much larger ar rlsl— islands and were much larger area at risk from _ islands and were much larger area at risk from downpours . area at risk from downpours. lnen— area at risk from downpours. lnen lnrlng— area at risk from downpours. then during sunday, it will be a nlgnr— then during sunday, it will be a warmer night as— then during sunday, it will be a warmer night as well across the board— warmer night as well across the board wlrn— warmer night as well across the board with temperatures in some rowns— board with temperatures in some rowns ano— board with temperatures in some towns and cities— board with temperatures in some towns and cities in— board with temperatures in some towns and cities in the south sraylng— towns and cities in the south sraylng ln— towns and cities in the south sraylng ln ane— towns and cities in the south staying in the high teens polenllally— staying in the high teens potentially. sunday then starts wlrn— potentially. sunday then starts with _western . with showers across western sealant— with showers across western scotland-other- with showers across western scotland. other places dry scotland. many other places dry ano— scotland. many other places dry and many— scotland. many other places dry and many wlll— scotland. many other places dry and many will stay that way rnrongn— and many will stay that way rnrongn ane— and many will stay that way through the day. but as the heat lnllls— through the day. but as the heat lnllls rnere— through the day. but as the heat builds, there will— through the day. but as the heat builds, there will be a chance of builds, there will be a chance or seelng— builds, there will be a chance of seeing further— builds, there will be a chance of seeing further thunderstorms lreallng— of seeing further thunderstorms breaking particularly over breaking out, particularly over oenrral—pans- breaking out, particularly over oenrral—pans i breaking out, particularly overi central—parts . and central and western parts. and agaln— central and western parts. and again, downpours— central and western parts. and again, downpours that could cause some problems after a long dry-agon— cause some problems after a long wry-agaln prerry—

cause some problems after a long dry again, pretty warm dry spell. again, pretty warm ano— dry spell. again, pretty warm and nnnll— dry spell. again, pretty warm and humid as— dry spell. again, pretty warm and humid as well, although some ossr— and humid as well, although some ossr wlll— and humid as well, although some coasts will again— and humid as well, although some coasts will again be— and humid as well, although some coasts will again be a little ooler— coasts will again be a little cooler. goodbye _ coasts will again be a little cooler. goodbye .

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