the jobs as well for the skills the jobs we where they go? and we need? where do they go? and then how long after waking up do you that you're told what you feel that you're told what to what not to do? walk to do and what not to do? walk up stairs. don't eat nuts. up the stairs. don't eat nuts. if you've got an allergy, drink water if you're hot. we are infantilizing society, aren't we, stating the obvious. we, by stating the obvious. we're also, of course , going to we're also, of course, going to be discussing the quick exit of mp mid—bedfordshire, nadine mp for mid—bedfordshire, nadine dorries it wouldn't be dorries. it wouldn't normally be that interesting, but 10:00 that interesting, but at 10:00 this she she this morning she said she wouldn't of triggering wouldn't dream of triggering a byelection her area after byelection in her area after being in johnson's being knocked back in johnson's honours list. by 2:00 she'd changed her mind. we're going to be discussing all of that and more with lewis oakley, co—host of the bisexual brunch podcast , of the bisexual brunch podcast, and conor tomlinson, writer and podcaster . most importantly, of podcaster. most importantly, of course, i want to hear from you. send your views my way gb views at .com or coming up at gb news .com or coming up after headlines with ray after the headlines with ray addison . after the headlines with ray addison. thanks, after the headlines with ray addison . thanks, bev. good addison. thanks, bev. good evening— addison. thanks, bev. good evening .— addison. thanks, bev. good evening . enn— addison. thanks, bev. good evening . our top- z: thanks, bev. good evening . our top story this evening. our top story this nonn— evening. our top story this none none— evening. our top story this hour, boris johnson's resignation- hour, boris johnson's resignation honours list has been—

resignation honours list has been published. and on it are ense— been published. and on it are close allies— been published. and on it are close allies of— been published. and on it are close allies of the former prime ninetee— close allies of the former prime minister priti_ close allies of the former prime minister priti patel, the former none— minister priti patel, the former home secretary— minister priti patel, the former home secretary receives a eeneneee— home secretary receives a damehood former business secretary— damehood former business secretary and— damehood former business secretary and gb news presenter jacob— secretary and gb news presenter neon rees-nogg— secretary and gb news presenter jacob rees—mogg receives a nnngnnneee.— jacob rees—mogg receives a knighthood. sean bailey, a lennon— knighthood. sean bailey, a london assembly member and fenne— london assembly member and fenne meyer— london assembly member and former mayor mayoral candidate, has former mayor mayoral candidate, nee been— former mayor mayoral candidate, has been handed— former mayor mayoral candidate, has been handed a— former mayor mayoral candidate, has been handed a peerage and win— has been handed a peerage and win new— has been handed a peerage and win en— has been handed a peerage and will now sit in— has been handed a peerage and will now sit in the— has been handed a peerage and will now sit in the house of lerne- — will now sit in the house of lords. conservative mps conor nume— lords. conservative mps conor burns and— lords. conservative mps conor burns and michael fabricant also receive knighthoods. deputy nenenn— receive knighthoods. deputy labour leader— receive knighthoods. deputy labour leader angela rayner has ennenee— labour leader angela rayner has criticised the— labour leader angela rayner has criticised the list,— labour leader angela rayner has criticised the list, calling it a sickening— criticised the list, calling it a sickening insult. criticised the list, calling it a sickening insult . however, a sickening insult. however, jacob— a sickening insult. however, jacob rees—mogg has told gb news that jacob rees—mogg has told gb news net in— jacob rees—mogg has told gb news net in n— jacob rees—mogg has told gb news net in is en— jacob rees—mogg has told gb news that it is an opportunity for an ongoing— that it is an opportunity for an ongoing en— that it is an opportunity for an ongoing en ne— that it is an opportunity for an outgoing pm to show their epnneennen. — outgoing pm to show their appreciation. outgoing prime ninetee— appreciation. outgoing prime minister has— appreciation. outgoing prime minister has done a great service— minister has done a great service ne— minister has done a great service to the— minister has done a great service to the country. �*fn�* service to the country. whether you agree— service to the country. whether you agree with his politics or not, being prime minister is a very important role. it's a very hard working role and that for a prime minister to be able to say thank you to those people who have helped make his job a little bit easier is, i think, perfectly reasonable. well, those not on the- perfectly reasonable. well, those not on the list- f well, those not on the list include fenne— those not on the list include former minister— those not on the list include former minister nadine dorries ene—

former minister nadine dorries and teen— former minister nadine dorries and just an— former minister nadine dorries ene jeen en neur— former minister nadine dorries and just an hour before it was pnnnenee,— and just an hour before it was published, she— and just an hour before it was published, she announced that she published, she announced that ene wee— published, she announced that she was stepping— published, she announced that she was stepping down with immediate— she was stepping down with immediate effect as an mp in a statement— immediate effect as an mp in a statement en— immediate effect as an mp in a statement on twitter, she said it statement on twitter, she said in new— statement on twitter, she said in new been— statement on twitter, she said it had been an— statement on twitter, she said it had been an honour to serve ner— it had been an honour to serve her constituency— it had been an honour to serve her constituency of mid bedfordshire,- her constituency of mid bedfordshire, but it was time for someone younger to take the rene— for someone younger to take the . nenen— for someone younger to take the reins . french president for someone younger to take the reins. french president emmanuel ween— reins. french president emmanuel ween nee— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been to— reins. french president emmanuel macron has been to the town of anneew— macron has been to the town of anneew e— macron has been to the town of anneew e new— macron has been to the town of annecy a day after— macron has been to the town of annecy a day after a knife eneew— annecy a day after a knife attack took— annecy a day after a knife attack took place in a playground- attack took place in a playground there . earlier, he playground there. earlier, he nee— playground there. earlier, he met newne— playground there. earlier, he met victims of— playground there. earlier, he met victims of the attack being weeeee — met victims of the attack being weeeee in— met victims of the attack being treated in hospital, including an treated in hospital, including en injured— treated in hospital, including an injured british girl. three ween— an injured british girl. three ween ew— an injured british girl. three ween ew new— an injured british girl. three year old etty was one of four neeewene— year old etty was one of four toddlers stabbed. she's now said toddlers stabbed. she's now said we we— toddlers stabbed. she's now said we we in— toddlers stabbed. she's now said we we in e— toddlers stabbed. she's now said to be in a stable— toddlers stabbed. she's now said to be in a stable condition. the eww-e— to be in a stable condition. the enw-e wewen— to be in a stable condition. the enw-e mayor says— to be in a stable condition. the city's mayor says he's confident eeewe— city's mayor says he's confident eeewe ene— city's mayor says he's confident about the condition of the other weee— about the condition of the other ennee peepte— about the condition of the other three people, two— about the condition of the other three people, two adults were wee— three people, two adults were eeee injured.— three people, two adults were also injured. the— three people, two adults were also injured. the knifeman, a synen— also injured. the knifeman, a synen refugee— also injured. the knifeman, a syrian refugee ,_ also injured. the knifeman, a syrian refugee , had been syrian refugee, had been deemed.— syrian refugee, had been detained. sorry denied asylum in the detained. sorry denied asylum in we eewnew— detained. sorry denied asylum in we eewnnw wee— detained. sorry denied asylum in the country just days before wee— the country just days before we eneew— the country just days before that attack .— the country just days before that attack . the— the country just days before that attack . the prime minister that attack. the prime minister says— that attack. the prime minister eewe ne— that attack. the prime minister eewe ne wenee— that attack. the prime minister says he wants the— that attack. the prime minister says he wants the north of england— says he wants the north of engeene ee— says he wants the north of england to be— says he wants the north of england to be at the heart of economic growth— england to be at the heart of economic growth in the country. addressing— economic growth in the country. addressing the— economic growth in the country. addressing the northern research group—

addressing the northern research group conference— addressing the northern research group conference in doncaster, wen— group conference in doncaster, new senen— group conference in doncaster, rishi sunak said— group conference in doncaster, rishi sunak said there's no newne— rishi sunak said there's no newee ee— rishi sunak said there's no route to success- rishi sunak said there's no route to success at the next eweewen— route to success at the next election without— route to success at the next election without the north. he wee— election without the north. he eeee week— election without the north. he also took aim— election without the north. he also took aim at— election without the north. he also took aim at sir keir seam.— also took aim at sir keir starmer, warning that a labour eewennnene— starmer, warning that a labour government under , as he put it, government under, as he put it, sir government under, as he put it, en eeww— government under, as he put it, sir softy would _ government under, as he put it, sir softy would be _ government under, as he put it, sir softy would be a disaster. we-we— sir softy would be a disaster. we've averted _ sir softy would be a disaster. we've averted the predicted recession , but— we've averted the predicted recession , but my ambition goes recession, but my ambition goes far recession, but my ambition goes new newene— recession, but my ambition goes far beyond that. _ recession, but my ambition goes far beyond that. �*vwwz; : g far beyond that. we need to grow the economy and i want the north to be at the heart of our economic growth . we will use our economic growth. we will use our post—brexit freedoms to create the most pro—innovation and pro enterprise regulatory system on earth . and finally , to lawyers earth. and finally, to lawyers defending donald trump have resigned after the former us president was indicted on charges of retaining classified documents at his florida estate . this is the second time that nenew— . this is the second time that nenew trump— . this is the second time that donald trump has— this is the second time that donald trump has been indicted. wee— donald trump has been indicted. we-e ene— donald trump has been indicted. we we we— donald trump has been indicted. he's the first former us president— he's the first former us president to— he's the first former us president to face criminal energee— president to face criminal energee en— president to face criminal energee en e— president to face criminal charges on a federal level. neewng— charges on a federal level. neenne en— charges on a federal level. posting on truth social. trump nee— posting on truth social. trump nee eeeweee— posting on truth social. trump has accused the— posting on truth social. trump has accused the government of eweenen— has accused the government of election interference in his eeneewn—

election interference in his campaign ne— election interference in his campaign to return to the white weeee— campaign to return to the white weeee in— campaign to return to the white house in 2024.— campaign to return to the white house in 2024. on— campaign to return to the white house in 2024. on tv online on new — house in 2024. on tv online on new newe— house in 2024. on tv online on dab+ radio and— house in 2024. on tv online on dab+ radio and on— house in 2024. on tv online on dab+ radio and on tune in to enn— dab+ radio and on tune in to we we— dab+ radio and on tune in to we is en— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news.— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now to . bev good evening. thank you for joining me on this beautiful friday night. now, let me start by showing you short clip by showing you a short clip filmed not by a journalist. don't be silly. they're busy talking amanda holden's talking about amanda holden's pink a mere pink shorts. but by a mere civilian, which has caused a stir on social media. it's been watched over 750,000 times in the last couple of days . take the last couple of days. take a look at this. so you're going to the local oldies like this one and you think i'm going to go in here and buy some food so i can feed myself ? and then you feed myself? and then you eeeneeen— feed myself? and then you eeeneeen ene— : , and then you approach the barrier and look , approach the barrier and look, you— approach the barrier and look, wen een-e— approach the barrier and look, you een-e een— approach the barrier and look,

you can't even get in the shop wwnewe— you can't even get in the shop without having— you can't even get in the shop without having a— you can't even get in the shop without having a qr code to scan . weee— without having a qr code to scan . were en— without having a qr code to scan . were en ee— without having a qr code to scan . here or to scan— without having a qr code to scan . here or to scan here. and then you— . here or to scan here. and then wen een— . here or to scan here. and then you ge— . here or to scan here. and then you ge ene— . here or to scan here. and then you can go and buy— . here or to scan here. and then you can go and buy things . now, you can go and buy things. now, ewe— you can go and buy things. now, we weeke— you can go and buy things. now, we weeks ee— you can go and buy things. now, this looks to me— you can go and buy things. now, this looks to me like the beginning— this looks to me like the beginning stages of the digital eneen— beginning stages of the digital eneen wee— beginning stages of the digital prison that we— beginning stages of the digital prison that we keep talking enewe— prison that we keep talking eeewe .— prison that we keep talking eeewe . wee— prison that we keep talking about. he's right. prison that we keep talking about . he's right. �*vwwz; mt; prison that we keep talking about . he's right. �*vw�*ez; ”c: about. he's right. we are at the beginning of an industrial revolution , the effects of which revolution, the effects of which will make the steam engine look trivial in order to empty that aldi and satisfy the most basic human need of eating and drinking , human need of eating and drinking, you must have a smartphone enough battery to last the trip , enough memory to last the trip, enough memory to upload a new app. you'll have to fill that app with all your personal details, phone number email home address payment card details , etcetera. details, etcetera. congratulations, you've just given the store ten minutes of your time and hand it over all of that data to yet another corporation who are likely to

bombard you with offers as you can now enter through the aggressive looking glass barriers. and yes, they are meant to be providing you with a service. aldi's website explains that when buying goods, you are helping it, which is so kind by secret cameras. who will tot up your purchases as you go? want to buy alcohol but you aren't 18. that's okay. just tell the app 18. that's okay. just tell the app that you are with a picture of your face. want to pass an item to a person in a wheelchair or the little old lady who can't reach the ketchup? it's a bit awkward, you're going to awkward, but you're going to have place that on a lower have to place that on a lower shelf the camera shelf first. so the camera doesn't charge you. random acts of human kindness won't be welcome in rigid computer welcome in this rigid computer says no world. and then when you leave , your bank will be leave, your bank account will be charged and you haven't had to endure interacting with a single human being . no more chatting human being. no more chatting about the weather with the lovely pensioner on the till. you can leave with your human interactions until you get home and put on your headset. if you

don't like interacting with humans . and let's be honest, humans. and let's be honest, many of the techno mega brains who this stuff up are who think this stuff up are disproportionately represented who think this stuff up are dis spectrums|tely represented who think this stuff up are dis spectrums whichepresented who think this stuff up are dis spectrums which find anted who think this stuff up are dis spectrums which find real! on spectrums which find real life relationships difficult . life relationships difficult. then this story is great news. but the young aukus awkward teenagers who prefer grunts to speaking much to develop social skills so they can learn empathy and exist in healthy relationships . anyone thought relationships. anyone thought about that older people require social contact to avoid isolation and depression . for isolation and depression. for some, that job on the till is literally the difference between a happy life and a hastened death. she shops like these require fewer employees, although as anyone who uses a self—service till knows, the ones who do remain spend all day addressing sighing customers and unexpected items in the bagging area. the process is slower and more infuriating for everyone , more infuriating for everyone, and as we know, tech is not foolproof. so what if you get home and aldi has accidentally

charged you for something you didn't pick up? well, even if you work that out yourself, are you work that out yourself, are you going to go through the rigmarole of returning the rigmarole of returning to the shop and sitting shop complaining and sitting through video of you through the video of you perusing the tomatoes? think perusing the tomatoes? i think not. these shops will profit from tech exhaustion. this from our tech exhaustion. this release eventless march of social change should terrify us all. it is leading. no exaggeration to a digital tyranny. a world in which we can't function without jumping through surveillance hoops and meeting the demands of faceless corporations, racking up profit at our expense , masks in public, at our expense, masks in public, leaving your house once a day and digital vaccine passports were merely the trial. governments and private firms wanted to see what you would tolerate. we are being primed. we were being primed for the advent of the dehumanised world. a top down system in which we plebs have a choice of 33 coffees. but no actual financial freedom of how to make simple

purchases. so what do we do? we rebel . we shame these businesses rebel. we shame these businesses who are not acting with customer well—being in mind. we ask that they open the barriers to let us through without the app quite , through without the app quite, quite literally, we challenge their visions of the future. we talk to our kids about the pitfalls of this bit by bit, erosion of free choice. we wake up to the trials of universal bafic up to the trials of universal basic income, which are currently happening in wales and england . even manchester mayor england. even manchester mayor andy burnham, a northern man who one might think remembers what happened to communities where mines closed, says the time has come for ubi. we'll put a solid foundation , he says, beneath foundation, he says, beneath everybody. so that they can have a life with security and stop worrying about everything, he said. fine. sounds lovely , but said. fine. sounds lovely, but what of work per aukus a reason to get out of bed in the morning and the satisfaction of earning and the satisfaction of earning a wage. you you might see just a turnstile in aldi, a mere inconvenience on your way to

collect your tea . i see a collect your tea. i see a doorway into a future of depressed , dissatisfied people depressed, dissatisfied people with no jobs to do. taking handouts from the states who will need to take more of your money to spend through tax. all because large companies are currently replacing people with apps and hoping we don't notice right . so tonight i'm asking right. so tonight i'm asking you, is technology making your life easier or harder ? i might life easier or harder? i might be wrong. i might be gb views. gb news .com is the email or tweet us at . gb news. so what tweet us at. gb news. so what happens if you don't want to be ruled by apps? qr codes scan in, scan out monitor every second you browse the world. well joining me to discuss this is future host steve wells, who has a particular interest in anticipating this this these

disruptive technologies and how they might mould our experiences . so good evening to you, steve. thank you so much for joining me. i do think it's a fascinating topic. i've made it very clear my position on this that, yes, there might be some advantages , but the advantages advantages, but the advantages don't appear to for the don't appear to be for the customer. they appear to be for the corporation. am i wrong ? the corporation. am i wrong? well first of all, good evening, bev. thanks for having me. it newe— bev. thanks for having me. it ewwe e— thanks for having me. it was quite a dystopia perspective, i think a dystopian newne— perspective, i think a dystopian eeenwe wee— perspective, i think a dystopian picture that you— perspective, i think a dystopian picture that you painted there. i picture that you painted there. . eee— picture that you painted there. i see something— picture that you painted there. i see something that's potentially— i see something that's potentially quite different . and potentially quite different. and wee-e— potentially quite different. and let's remember— potentially quite different. and let's remember what we're seeing at let's remember what we're seeing en ene— let's remember what we're seeing en ene eneenene— let's remember what we're seeing at the moment is— let's remember what we're seeing at the moment is the result of a new— at the moment is the result of a new en— at the moment is the result of a raft of different— at the moment is the result of a raft of different trends. and a lot raft of different trends. and a en en— raft of different trends. and a en en weee— raft of different trends. and a lot of those trends have been in ween— lot of those trends have been in ween nee— lot of those trends have been in ween nee tene— lot of those trends have been in train for tens of— lot of those trends have been in train for tens of years. so so a wee— train for tens of years. so so a en en— train for tens of years. so so a en en ewe— train for tens of years. so so a lot of this stuff— train for tens of years. so so a lot of this stuff shouldn't neeww— lot of this stuff shouldn't really ee— lot of this stuff shouldn't really come as- lot of this stuff shouldn't really come as that much of a surprise— really come as that much of a surprise ee— really come as that much of a surprise as these _ really come as that much of a surprise as these grab and go snee— surprise as these grab and go store technologies. they have been— store technologies. they have been eewne— store technologies. they have been around for— store technologies. they have been around for some time. aneen— been around for some time. aneen newe— been around for some time. amazon have now got 20 stores in in ne— amazon have now got 20 stores in in we we— amazon have now got 20 stores in in we we ene— amazon have now got 20 stores in in the uk and aldi— amazon have now got 20 stores in in the uk and aldi have that one weneene— in the uk and aldi have that one morrisons tesco's_ in the uk and aldi have that one morrisons tesco's and seenenww-e- morrisons tesco's and sainsbury's are all testing

eeneee— sainsbury's are all testing eeneee .— sainsbury's are all testing eeneee . nee— sainsbury's are all testing stores. but you sainsbury's are all testing stores . but you know, it's such stores. but you know, it's such a stores. but you know, it's such e enew— stores. but you know, it's such e enew we— stores. but you know, it's such eenew we e— stores. but you know, it's such a small it's a tiny— stores. but you know, it's such a small it's a tiny part of the newenweee. — a small it's a tiny part of the marketplace. and— a small it's a tiny part of the marketplace. and as consumers , marketplace. and as consumers, fennee we ew— marketplace. and as consumers, farmers, we all have the power in ew— farmers, we all have the power in nenee— farmers, we all have the power in our hands to— farmers, we all have the power in our hands to choose where to snee— in our hands to choose where to enee ene— in our hands to choose where to enee ene .— in our hands to choose where to shop and i think— in our hands to choose where to shop and i think ultimately wnen-e— shop and i think ultimately wnen-e wnen— shop and i think ultimately that's what we'll see. some eeewe— that's what we'll see. some eeeeee ww— that's what we'll see. some people will really like these renew— people will really like these retail experiences . people are retail experiences. people are eweeew— retail experiences. people are already perhaps— retail experiences. people are already perhaps of a certain age— already perhaps of a certain ege, penneee— already perhaps of a certain age, perhaps also of a certain weeeeewe— age, perhaps also of a certain disposable income, because i ewnw— disposable income, because i new ene— disposable income, because i new en— disposable income, because i think one of the— disposable income, because i think one of the important winge— think one of the important enenge wnen— think one of the important things that we— think one of the important things that we do need to neewee— things that we do need to neewee ee— things that we do need to realise as a— things that we do need to realise as a society is that weee— realise as a society is that eneee wne— realise as a society is that these kind of— realise as a society is that these kind of technologies and these kind of technologies and ene wew— these kind of technologies and ene wew wnen— these kind of technologies and the way that they're deployed do risk the way that they're deployed do we eeeeee— the way that they're deployed do risk social exclusion. so we do need— risk social exclusion. so we do need ee— risk social exclusion. so we do need we newe— risk social exclusion. so we do need to have that— risk social exclusion. so we do need to have that in mind . but need to have that in mind. but you— need to have that in mind. but wen knew,— need to have that in mind. but you knew, ene— need to have that in mind. but you know, the question is, is it is you know, the question is, is it e w— you know, the question is, is it e in ne— you know, the question is, is it is it the remit— you know, the question is, is it is it the remit of— you know, the question is, is it is it the remit of corporate eewene— is it the remit of corporate actions with _ is it the remit of corporate actions with shareholders to eeweww— actions with shareholders to actually make _ actions with shareholders to actually make that call or is it the actually make that call or is it ene eew— actually make that call or is it ene eew en— actually make that call or is it the call of government to develop— the call of government to develop strategy and policy to eeweww— develop strategy and policy to actually make _ develop strategy and policy to actually make sure that social exeweeene— actually make sure that social eeeweeene ee— actually make sure that social exclusion is minimised as far as eeeeewe— exclusion is minimised as far as eeeewwe e — exclusion is minimised as far as eeeeewe e wne— exclusion is minimised as far as eeeeewe e ann .— exclusion is minimised as far as possible ? 'e: e:e::e" c exclusion is minimised as far as possible ? '“e: e:efe“ c possible? and i don't think either of them care, though,

steve, i don't get the impression that neither the government nor the corporations care about social exclusion. there's no profit in worrying about a pensioner who doesn't have anyone to talk to in the day. there's no profit in, you know, my dad , my amazing 86 year know, my dad, my amazing 86 year old dad, he wouldn't be able to shopin old dad, he wouldn't be able to shop in this shop. he doesn't have a smartphone and he luckily has my mum to do things for him. she would probably be the one arguing turnstile, saying arguing at the turnstile, saying , in anyway. i'm going to , let me in anyway. i'm going to give cash. but. but give you some cash. but. but they're unusual and i really genuinely worry about this rate of i mean, say it's of change. i mean, you say it's been for a while. been going on for a while. i completely disagree. amazon completely disagree. so amazon has stores now in ealing. has got 15 stores now in ealing. the first one was only last march. they're have 260 march. they're going to have 260 of these by 2025. this is the very first one from aldi, the one that we saw there. it's in greenwich in london. and i don't believe, steve, that it's what the customer wants. that's what worries me. i feel like these conversations are being had in

boardrooms about how much more profitable this will be and how exciting is . but profitable this will be and how exciting is. but i profitable this will be and how exciting is . but i don't exciting it is. but i don't believe it's the consumer believe it's what the consumer desires. where they getting desires. where are they getting the idea from that we want this . okay, so there are a number of things i think, to unpack there. i mean, first of all, there are a i mean, first of all, there are e gene— i mean, first of all, there are e gene en— i mean, first of all, there are a group of consumers that really like a group of consumers that really wee ene— a group of consumers that really like the technology that really weewe— like the technology that really value convenience, the fact value the convenience, the fact we— value the convenience, the fact me new— value the convenience, the fact we enew enee— value the convenience, the fact that they once they've subscribed _ that they once they've subscribed to the stores app , subscribed to the stores app, enee— subscribed to the stores app, me new— subscribed to the stores app, that they don't— subscribed to the stores app, that they don't have to worry eeewe— that they don't have to worry eeewe geeng— that they don't have to worry about going through a checkout . about going through a checkout. wene— about going through a checkout. enene ee— about going through a checkout. there are another— about going through a checkout. there are another group of consumers that— there are another group of consumers that i think you're eeeeeweew— consumers that i think you're absolutely right— consumers that i think you're absolutely right about. they're not absolutely right about. they're nee—being- absolutely right about. they're not—being being. not necessarily being being eeewen— not necessarily being being eeewen ee— not necessarily being being spoken to decide what they want , ewe— spoken to decide what they want , we were — spoken to decide what they want , we were ee— spoken to decide what they want , but there is choice. there is sewe— , but there is choice. there is sew eneeee— , but there is choice. there is still choice .— , but there is choice. there is still choice . there- , but there is choice. there is still choice . there will be still choice. there will be eneeee— still choice. there will be eneeee nee— still choice. there will be choice for an— still choice. there will be choice for an extra ordinary nwenee— choice for an extra ordinary nwenee en— choice for an extra ordinary number of years. now if we roll, enene— number of years. now if we roll, enene een-e. — number of years. now if we roll, there isn't. but— number of years. now if we roll, there isn't. but there- number of years. now if we roll, there isn't. g“e:f;”e:f; c there isn't. but there isn't choice. if i want to go into that aldi, i, i love a super market. i love aldi , i love market. i love aldi, i love lidl. i want to shop. i do shop there. but i don't have the choice to go into that shop unless i subscribe to their

digital tyranny. so unless i subscribe to their digital tyranny . so go to digital tyranny. so go to a wnenene— digital tyranny. so go to a different store.— digital tyranny. so go to a different store. you- e: g n’ so go to a different store. you know , i different store. you know, i wene— different store. you know, i wene ee— different store. you know, i wene ee ge— different store. you know, i wene ee ge ee— different store. you know, i want to go to that store . i do want to go to that store. i do nee— want to go to that store. i do nee ew— want to go to that store. i do nee eww ene— want to go to that store. i do not buy the argument that there is not buy the argument that there we nee— not buy the argument that there we nee enewgn— not buy the argument that there is not enough alternatives right . enn— is not enough alternatives right now . this technology and the now. this technology and the eeeeewnene— now. this technology and the eeeeewnene en— now. this technology and the deployment of these technologies are deployment of these technologies en— deployment of these technologies in new— deployment of these technologies are in their infancy— deployment of these technologies are in their infancy agency. so wene-e— are in their infancy agency. so enene-e eeee— are in their infancy agency. so there's lots and— are in their infancy agency. so there's lots and lots of opportunities- there's lots and lots of opportunities for us to shop eeeewnene— opportunities for us to shop eeeewnene .— opportunities for us to shop elsewhere . i— opportunities for us to shop elsewhere . i do— opportunities for us to shop elsewhere . i do think there's an elsewhere. i do think there's an newe— elsewhere. i do think there's an eeewe— elsewhere. i do think there's an issue about how— elsewhere. i do think there's an issue about how how are these eeeeeeene— issue about how how are these decisions arrived— issue about how how are these decisions arrived at. um, there een-e— decisions arrived at. um, there een-e e— decisions arrived at. um, there een-e e weee— decisions arrived at. um, there isn't a real benefit— decisions arrived at. um, there isn't a real benefit to any ewneeee— isn't a real benefit to any surprises to— isn't a real benefit to any surprises to corporations. wneee— surprises to corporations. wneee en— surprises to corporations. almost in any- surprises to corporations. almost in any sector to do enweneng— almost in any sector to do anything other— almost in any sector to do anything other than automate eeeewee— anything other than automate because automate often tends to because automate often tends to we eneeeen— because automate often tends to be cheaper than— because automate often tends to be cheaper than people. and i ewnw— be cheaper than people. and i new wen— be cheaper than people. and i think you raised— be cheaper than people. and i think you raised a really interesting— think you raised a really interesting point earlier on wnen— interesting point earlier on wnen wen— interesting point earlier on when you said,— interesting point earlier on when you said, well, you know, wnen— when you said, well, you know, we eeewe— when you said, well, you know, what about universal basic eneeenee— what about universal basic income? what— what about universal basic income? what about some of these eenen— income? what about some of these eenen-wew— income? what about some of these eenen-wewlwe- income? what about some of these other how we actually other things? how do we actually enewe-eeeeee— other things? how do we actually ensure people continue to ensure that people continue to ewe— ensure that people continue to ewe-ewes— ensure that people continue to live-lives and- live fulfilling lives and eeeweww— live fulfilling lives and actually, that's the real debate newe— actually, that's the real debate here, because _ actually, that's the real debate here, because what we won't do ene— here, because what we won't do

end wnen— here, because what we won't do end we we— here, because what we won't do and what it's not— here, because what we won't do and what it's not right to do, i een-e— and what it's not right to do, i een-e ewnw— and what it's not right to do, i don't think is— and what it's not right to do, i don't think is stop— and what it's not right to do, i don't think is stop the development of the technology the development of the technology ene ngne— development of the technology ene ngne-ee- development of the technology the right-do is- development of the technology the right-do is to- the right thing to do is to understand— the right thing to do is to understand the implication understand what the implication is ene— understand what the implication is end we— understand what the implication is end we ee— understand what the implication is and what as a— understand what the implication is and what as a society, we eneww— is and what as a society, we eneww ee— is and what as a society, we should do about— is and what as a society, we should do about it. because if we wen-e— should do about it. because if we didn't take— should do about it. because if we didn't take that approach to eeenneeegw— we didn't take that approach to technology,-we'd- we didn't take that approach to technology, we'd all be technology, then we'd all be riding— technology, then we'd all be riding-horses- technology, then we'd all be. riding-horses rather riding around on horses rather enen— riding around on horses rather wen—e- riding around on horses rather enen—e ewnw- riding around on horses ratheri than—i think we're than in cars. but i think we're doing that back to front. steve i think we need to have the conversations now and i want these sunak these corporations rishi sunak is in america this week with biden he wants us to be the biden and he wants us to be the centre legislation and centre for legislation and framework ai. and framework around ai. and he said, going get all the said, i'm going to get all the bosses the companies in bosses from the ai companies in one together . and i one room together. and i thought, oh, brilliant, well that's echo that's going to be an echo chamber all agreeing to chamber of them all agreeing to keep the plebs where where we belong whilst you put all the regulation make regulation in place to make their businesses more profitable, room profitable, don't fill a room with a room with with that lot. fill a room with that lot me other people that lot and me or other people who to challenge the who want to challenge the presumption that is always presumption that this is always good mean . yeah i. good news is yeah, mean. yeah i. i kind of agree in— good news is yeah, mean. yeah i. i kind of agree in terms- good news is yeah, mean. yeah i. i kind of agree in terms of,- g: yeah i. i kind of agree in terms of, you knew— i kind of agree in terms of, you knew .— i kind of agree in terms of, you know , whether— i kind of agree in terms of, you know , whether that's going to be know, whether that's going to be an know, whether that's going to be en eneee— know, whether that's going to be en eneee .— know, whether that's going to be an effect , effective— know, whether that's going to be an effect , effective form of an effect, effective form of consultation _ an effect, effective form of consultation on _ an effect, effective form of consultation on and perhaps some

wne— consultation on and perhaps some kind ef— consultation on and perhaps some kind of citizen— consultation on and perhaps some kind of citizen wide— kind of citizen wide consultation about it. what newes— consultation about it. what makes sense— consultation about it. what makes sense what it is that we eeeweww— makes sense what it is that we eeeweww wene— makes sense what it is that we actually want the _ makes sense what it is that we actually want the issue here enewgn— actually want the issue here enewgn n— actually want the issue here though is that— actually want the issue here though is that you're still going— though is that you're still geeng ee— though is that you're still going to get— though is that you're still going to get a_ though is that you're still going to get a significant nwenee— going to get a significant nwenee en— going to get a significant number of people, probably. i ewnw— number of people, probably. i ewnw ene— number of people, probably. i think the majority saying , yes, think the majority saying, yes, i think the majority saying, yes, . ewe— think the majority saying, yes, . wee eneee— think the majority saying, yes, i like these technologies and eneee— i like these technologies and these technologies will allow me to these technologies will allow me ee ee— these technologies will allow me ee ee ee— these technologies will allow me ee ee ee nwen— these technologies will allow me to do so much more, make my life so to do so much more, make my life ee nwen— to do so much more, make my life ee nwen eeeeen— to do so much more, make my life so much easier . and— to do so much more, make my life so much easier. and i think individuals,— so much easier. and i think individuals, people , the individuals, people, the eeeweenen— individuals, people, the population probably don't understand— population probably don't understand that there is this weeeen— understand that there is this broader perspective here, which is ene — broader perspective here, which is the potential— broader perspective here, which is the potential for these technologies— is the potential for these technologies to actually take jobs— technologies to actually take teee ewe— technologies to actually take gene ewe ef— technologies to actually take jobs out of the— technologies to actually take jobs out of the marketplace now, neeeeee— jobs out of the marketplace now, neeeeee enen — jobs out of the marketplace now, replace them with— jobs out of the marketplace now, replace them with what necessarily— replace them with what necessarily a - replace them with what necessarily a bad thing and neeeeee— necessarily a bad thing and replace them— necessarily a bad thing and replace them with what steve and eeetee— replace them with what steve and social structures— replace them with what steve and social structures to— replace them with what steve and social structures to allow eeeeee— social structures to allow eeeeee ee— social structures to allow people to live— social structures to allow people to live fulfilling lives ene— people to live fulfilling lives end we— people to live fulfilling lives and that future— people to live fulfilling lives and that future there may be out were— and that future there may be out were en— and that future there may be out were en ene— and that future there may be out there on the other— and that future there may be out there on the other hand, it ntgne— there on the other hand, it negne nee— there on the other hand, it might not because these technologies— might not because these technologies might not be as eeweewe— technologies might not be as eeweewe ee— technologies might not be as pervasive as we _ technologies might not be as pervasive as we imagine. but you see pervasive as we imagine. but you enee— pervasive as we imagine. but you see that should— pervasive as we imagine. but you see that should be— pervasive as we imagine. but you see that should be surely the conversation _ see that should be surely the conversation should start with we — conversation should start with enee. ene— conversation should start with that. the question- conversation should start with that. the question is- conversation should start with that. : that. the question is what is important human beings important in life? human beings being purposeful, getting out of

bed. you know, i don't know whether you're familiar with the famous maslow's hierarchy of needs, know, the triangle. needs, you know, the triangle. okay what need at the okay so what we need at the bottom is shelter and our bottom is our shelter and our food. at the pinnacle food. and then at the pinnacle of this of of that is this sense of purpose. and we're doing is purpose. and what we're doing is we're now saying the hierarchy of has include apps of needs has to include apps like the app is above the food and water. arguably, the app is before the food and water because you can't go in the supermarket market unless you've got app. we are got your app. and we are neglecting humanity . now, got your app. and we are neglecting humanity. now, this is this is where— neglecting humanity. now, this is this is where your— gf “g fr?“ a now, this is this is where your dystopian eeneeeeewe— is this is where your dystopian eeneeeeewe te— is this is where your dystopian perspective is creating . perspective is creating. seneeeew— perspective is creating. somebody needs- perspective is creating. somebody needs to- perspective is creating. somebody needs to somebody needs you know, because i mean, i think it's a great debate to have, but we need to be really careful that we put the right balance in place because these technologies aren't stopping any one anywhere in the country from having what we might think of as a normal shopping experience . a normal shopping experience. what they're doing is they're eeewng — what they're doing is they're eeewng ene — what they're doing is they're testing the validity of the eeenneeegw— testing the validity of the technology to _ testing the validity of the technology to make sure that it ee— technology to make sure that it we we— technology to make sure that it can do what it's— technology to make sure that it can do what it's supposed to do. ene— can do what it's supposed to do. ene eeneene— can do what it's supposed to do. the chances are— can do what it's supposed to do.

the chances are it— can do what it's supposed to do. the chances are it can. so what we enen— the chances are it can. so what we enen need— the chances are it can. so what we then need to— the chances are it can. so what we then need to do,— the chances are it can. so what we then need to do, if we weeeen— we then need to do, if we broaden the— we then need to do, if we broaden the debate out is say, so broaden the debate out is say, ee new— broaden the debate out is say, ee new ee— broaden the debate out is say, ee new we we— broaden the debate out is say, so how do we transition from we— so how do we transition from we we — so how do we transition from what we might— so how do we transition from what we might think of as a eeetew— what we might think of as a society characterised by eeneenee— society characterised by personal interactions to one were— personal interactions to one wnene neee— personal interactions to one where most of— personal interactions to one where most of or most a lot of eeetewee— where most of or most a lot of societies characterised by wgwee— societies characterised by digital interactions and what is it digital interactions and what is n we— digital interactions and what is n we need— digital interactions and what is n we need ee— digital interactions and what is it we need to put— digital interactions and what is it we need to put in place to enee— it we need to put in place to ensure that we— it we need to put in place to ensure that we continue to survive — ensure that we continue to survive ene— ensure that we continue to survive and thrive as people and we— survive and thrive as people and me new— survive and thrive as people and me new be— survive and thrive as people and that may be that— survive and thrive as people and that may be that if— survive and thrive as people and that may be that if we do have ene— that may be that if we do have ene en— that may be that if we do have ene e-n geeng— that may be that if we do have ene e-n geeng ee— that may be that if we do have and i'm going to jump ahead now to and i'm going to jump ahead now ee enn— and i'm going to jump ahead now ee ewe wee— and i'm going to jump ahead now to this idea of— and i'm going to jump ahead now to this idea of universal basic ewe— to this idea of universal basic income, but if— to this idea of universal basic income, but if we— to this idea of universal basic income, but if we do end up with wnwneeee— income, but if we do end up with universal basic— income, but if we do end up with universal basic income, because enwetee— universal basic income, because artificial intelligence, machine eeennng,— artificial intelligence, machine learning, robotics and these eenen— learning, robotics and these eenen neeww— learning, robotics and these other really smart technologies are other really smart technologies ewe— other really smart technologies ewe ee— other really smart technologies are able to do— other really smart technologies are able to do the— other really smart technologies are able to do the jobs that we're we were— are able to do the jobs that we're we were traditionally able to we're we were traditionally able ee ee— we're we were traditionally able ee ee, wen— we're we were traditionally able ee ee, you knew,— we're we were traditionally able to do, you know, it— we're we were traditionally able to do, you know, it might be we— to do, you know, it might be we we— to do, you know, it might be that we need— to do, you know, it might be that we need these structures enewwee— that we need these structures provided ew— that we need these structures provided by the _ that we need these structures provided by the public sector enee— provided by the public sector me new— provided by the public sector that allow to _ provided by the public sector that allow to us— provided by the public sector that allow to us live fulfilling wwee— that allow to us live fulfilling lives, because _ that allow to us live fulfilling lives, because whatever a lot of gene— lives, because whatever a lot of eeeeee eew — lives, because whatever a lot of eeeeee eew-ef— lives, because whatever a lot of people say,-of our- people say, most of our fulfilment— people say, most of our fulfilment is- people say, most of our fulfilment is associated with were. — fulfilment is associated with were. se— fulfilment is associated with were. se we— fulfilment is associated with work. so we do— fulfilment is associated with work. so we do need to replace enen— work. so we do need to replace we we— work. so we do need to replace we we e— work. so we do need to replace that. it's a great— work. so we do need to replace that. it's a great debate, but we-ee— that. it's a great debate, but we-ee ee— that. it's a great debate, but we-to be really- that. it's a great debate, but we to be really careful.

we need to be really careful. nee— we need to be really careful. nee wnee— we need to be really careful. we we wee— we need to be really careful. but what you have— we need to be really careful. but what you have an- but what you have an unrealistically dystopian view of the future, what you have just , steve, is just described, steve, is communism . what you've just communism. what you've just described is a future in which nobody works and everyone gets the same amount of money from the same amount of money from the government. don't aspire to anything, don't compete, don't try and fulfil your potential. sit at home with your ai headset playing on your tech and the government will give you £1,600. i don't want to live in that world. idisagree i don't want to live in that world. i disagree . that's that's world. i disagree. that's that's : i disagree. that's that's communism . however, one of the communism. however, one of the ewnge— communism. however, one of the ewnge enee— communism. however, one of the ewnge enee .— communism. however, one of the enenge enee , wen— communism. however, one of the things that , you know, if we things that, you know, if we wee-eee— things that, you know, if we project forward _ things that, you know, if we project forward we might see is eeneewng— project forward we might see is something that's— project forward we might see is something that's very different enen— something that's very different nen ene— something that's very different from the capitalism that's geneneeee— from the capitalism that's generated the _ from the capitalism that's generated the wealth that, you knew,— generated the wealth that, you knew, e— generated the wealth that, you knew, e eee— generated the wealth that, you knew, e eee ef— generated the wealth that, you know, a lot of people have been ewe— know, a lot of people have been ewe ee— know, a lot of people have been ewe ee enjoy— know, a lot of people have been ewe ee eniew .— know, a lot of people have been able to enjoy . so,— know, a lot of people have been able to enjoy . so, you know, if able to enjoy. so, you know, if we enee— able to enjoy. so, you know, if we use that universal basic income example, we don't yet knew— income example, we don't yet knew new— income example, we don't yet know how that— income example, we don't yet know how that might be funded . know how that might be funded. we know how that might be funded. we een-e— know how that might be funded. we een-e wee— know how that might be funded. we don't yet know— know how that might be funded. we don't yet know what the wenewen — we don't yet know what the transition of— we don't yet know what the transition of enterprise will be in eenne— transition of enterprise will be in eenne ef— transition of enterprise will be in terms of its— transition of enterprise will be in terms of its ability to eeee— in terms of its ability to create funding through the enene— create funding through the enene ewee— create funding through the public purse in order to pay for

we— public purse in order to pay for we .— public purse in order to pay for we . wne— public purse in order to pay for we . and if— public purse in order to pay for that . and if that's— public purse in order to pay for that . and if that's the case, that. and if that's the case, enen— that. and if that's the case, then actually— that. and if that's the case, then actually you don't raise eee— then actually you don't raise eee ew— then actually you don't raise more tax by taxing people eeeeee— more tax by taxing people because the _ more tax by taxing people because the people will be paid ennewgn— because the people will be paid through universal— because the people will be paid through universal basic income. so through universal basic income. se ene— through universal basic income. se ene eee— through universal basic income. so the tax burden— through universal basic income. so the tax burden falls on eneenenee— so the tax burden falls on eneenenee .— so the tax burden falls on enterprise . now perhaps what you enterprise. now perhaps what you do enterprise. now perhaps what you we enen— enterprise. now perhaps what you we enen te— enterprise. now perhaps what you we enen ie wen— enterprise. now perhaps what you do then is you change the nature of do then is you change the nature en ene— do then is you change the nature en ene eee— do then is you change the nature of the tax system.— do then is you change the nature of the tax system. and what you do of the tax system. and what you we te— of the tax system. and what you we ie wen— of the tax system. and what you we ie wen eee— of the tax system. and what you do is you tax those— of the tax system. and what you do is you tax those enterprise, enee— do is you tax those enterprise, eases that focus— do is you tax those enterprise, eases that focus on automate enieeien— eases that focus on automate ene— eases that focus on automate mission, and you— eases that focus on automate mission, and you give the eenewe— mission, and you give the eenewe ee— mission, and you give the benefit to those companies that eneeew— benefit to those companies that employ people- _ benefit to those companies that employ people. so you kind of gig— employ people. so you kind of enne wnene— employ people. so you kind of shift where the _ employ people. so you kind of shift where the tax is made. wnee— shift where the tax is made. we wen— shift where the tax is made. what you then _ shift where the tax is made. what you then do is you begin to say,— what you then do is you begin to eew wen,— what you then do is you begin to eew wen, wnee— what you then do is you begin to say, well, what is— what you then do is you begin to say, well, what is it— what you then do is you begin to say, well, what is it that the enene— say, well, what is it that the public sector,— say, well, what is it that the public sector, the public eenweee— public sector, the public services should include? should it services should include? should w be,— services should include? should n be, wen— services should include? should n be, wee— services should include? should it be, um, free banking? should it be, um, free banking? should n we— it be, um, free banking? should n we nee— it be, um, free banking? should it be free public— it be, um, free banking? should it be free public transport? sneww— it be free public transport? sneww w— it be free public transport? should it be— it be free public transport? should it be free access to wifi 7 should it be free access to wifi even— should it be free access to wifi even knew,— should it be free access to wifi even knew, ee— should it be free access to wifi ? you know, so you— should it be free access to wifi ? you know, so you start to look at ? you know, so you start to look ee ene— ? you know, so you start to look ee ene wne— ? you know, so you start to look ee ene wne ef— ? you know, so you start to look at the kind of services that gene— at the kind of services that eeeeee ww— at the kind of services that people will value and you put eneee— people will value and you put eneee in— people will value and you put those in place— people will value and you put those in place not only that, newe— those in place not only that, maybe you— those in place not only that, maybe you replace what we think of maybe you replace what we think en ee— maybe you replace what we think en ee week— maybe you replace what we think en ee wew ew— maybe you replace what we think of as work by some— maybe you replace what we think of as work by some form of eennwnww— of as work by some form of community service . now that's community service. now that's twee— community service. now that's twee ene— community service. now that's twee wee— community service. now that's just one idea that— community service. now that's just one idea that we do. and we newe— just one idea that we do. and we newe ee— just one idea that we do. and we newe e be— just one idea that we do. and we have to be careful— just one idea that we do. and we have to be careful what we do. we have to be careful what we do. we ewe— have to be careful what we do. we still have— have to be careful what we do. we still have to— have to be careful what we do. we still have to give people eneiee. — we still have to give people eneiee. en— we still have to give people choice. i'm not— we still have to give people choice. i'm not suggesting that any—

choice. i'm not suggesting that enw-ewnge— choice. i'm not suggesting that any things eliminate any of these things eliminate the any of these things eliminate ene need— any of these things eliminate ene neee fen— any of these things eliminate the need for choice , but we the need for choice, but we enewwn-e— the need for choice, but we shouldn't kind— the need for choice, but we shouldn't kind of hide our head in ene— shouldn't kind of hide our head in ene eene— shouldn't kind of hide our head in the sand and— shouldn't kind of hide our head in the sand and say, oh, this is all in the sand and say, oh, this is we ewwe— in the sand and say, oh, this is all awful without— in the sand and say, oh, this is all awful without actually eeewng— all awful without actually eeewng ee— all awful without actually looking at what the future might be, we— looking at what the future might be, we ene — looking at what the future might be, what the choices might be, ene— be, what the choices might be, end we— be, what the choices might be, end we ene— be, what the choices might be, and what the range of different eeeiee— and what the range of different social solutions— and what the range of different social solutions might be, even wnwn— social solutions might be, even wnwn ene— social solutions might be, even within the context— social solutions might be, even within the context of a very negnw— within the context of a very highly digitalised world. neeeee— highly digitalised world. because actually we don't know ene— because actually we don't know ene enee-e— because actually we don't know ene enee-e wnw— because actually we don't know and that's why debates like this are and that's why debates like this weewe— and that's why debates like this are useful because don't you mine— are useful because don't you ewnw ene— are useful because don't you think the future— are useful because don't you think the future is uncertain? seewe— think the future is uncertain? seewe .— think the future is uncertain? steve i could— think the future is uncertain? steve i could talk to you all nigne— steve i could talk to you all negne eeewe— steve i could talk to you all night about it. _ steve i could talk to you all night about it. i- steve i could talk to you all night about it. f: night about it. i could talk to you all night. we might have to carry this on over a couple of bottle of wine, a bottle of wine. one night you and i. but the thing that i still. i am actually more worried, having spoken to you rather than less. because the of the world because the image of the world you my world is dystopian. you think my world is dystopian. your in which your world is dystopian in which people community service people do community service and get government . it's get paid by the government. it's never going to work. it's not factoring in. i tell you what, i've got two teenagers, nearly three teenagers in my house. they would love the government

to give £1,600 to do to give them £1,600 to do absolutely month to absolutely every month to do absolutely every month to do absolutely nothing and tell absolutely nothing and then tell them pick litter a them to go and pick litter a couple week. you know couple of times a week. you know what? be depressed. what? they'll be depressed. they'll isolated, they'll be they'll be isolated, they'll be unfit, they'll be demotivated. they lack intelligence. they will lack intelligence. they will lack intelligence. they will lack initiative . and they will lack initiative. and i'm going to blame you when it happens. steve. it's been a joy. thank you so much. thanks so much for filling us in on i mean, look, got a statement mean, look, we got a statement from let know you from aldi. let me know what you think, won't aldi have think, won't you? aldi have said, to clear, like that said, to be clear, i like that as a start of a statement, our shop and go trial store opened 18 months ago and has had over welcomingly positive feedback from customers . uh, not if you from customers. uh, not if you look on twitter today . they also look on twitter today. they also say we have no plans to roll it out further at this stage . out further at this stage. farage wonder why it also employs around the same number of people as a stand aad store. well, it might for now because lots of people will be mopping up the mess of your technological but up the mess of your techncthis cal but up the mess of your techncthis space. but up the mess of your techncthis space. right. but up the mess of your techncthis space. right. thank watch this space. right. thank you to futurist steve wells. you are watching listening to are watching and listening to news. coming up, the doris

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ask you, first of all, what's- the - brunch podcast? the bisexual brunch podcast? on,— the bisexual brunch podcast? oile— the bisexual brunch podcast? onle eeeeew— the bisexual brunch podcast? oh,-a podcast that- the bisexual brunch podcast? oh,-a podcast thatlwas. oh, it's a podcast that i was that came up with because we that we came up with because we couldn't media to talk couldn't get the media to talk about bisexuality. so there's couldn't get the media to talk aboutof sexuality. so there's couldn't get the media to talk aboutof us.iality. so there's couldn't get the media to talk aboutof us. wety. so there's couldn't get the media to talk aboutof us. we do so there's couldn't get the media to talk aboutof us. we do so tepisode three of us. we do an episode every two weeks, every month, andifs every two weeks, every month, and it's really great. it's a really interesting topic. i think oh, lgbt, think everyone thinks, oh, lgbt, we know all about it, but actually of uncover actually you kind of uncover a lot on the. you talk lot of stuff on the. you talk mainly about— eff“ you talk mainly about sexuality then, f“ you talk mainly about sexuality then, or is mainly about sexuality then, or e w— mainly about sexuality then, or e n we— mainly about sexuality then, or is it just random— mainly about sexuality then, or is it just random stuff from a weexwee— is it just random stuff from a bisexual perspective? ii? bisexual perspective? mainly enene— bisexual perspective? mainlyl enene—enene about sexuality, mainly about lgbt, about lgbt, but also about relationships kind of relationships and like kind of how differ and of our how they differ and kind of our perspective dating people perspective from dating people of and then of different genders and then kind looking at how other kind of looking at how other people , right? so you have kind people, right? so you have kind of people, right? so you have kind en ee— people, right? so you have kind en wen— people, right? so you have kind of come from the— f g“7 so you have kind of come from the future, ” egf“7 so you have kind of come from the future, haven't you,— of come from the future, haven't wen-se — of come from the future, haven't wen-se e— of come from the future, haven't wen-se e weee- of come from the future, haven't you,-so a little bit,- you, really? so a little bit, weee— you, really? so a little bit, we ene— you, really? so a little bit, we e— you, really? so a little bit, trust me, a few— you, really? so a little bit, trust me, a few years ago, newng— trust me, a few years ago, newng ewe— trust me, a few years ago, having this conversation , but having this conversation, but we— having this conversation, but wnee ew— having this conversation, but wnee we wen— having this conversation, but what did you make of my chat enene— what did you make of my chat enene wen— what did you make of my chat there with steve— what did you make of my chat there with steve the futurist? wnee— there with steve the futurist? we we— there with steve the futurist? we we wen — there with steve the futurist? what did you make of it, connor did what did you make of it, connor we wen— what did you make of it, connor we you enne— what did you make of it, connor we you ewnw .— what did you make of it, connor did you think i was— what did you make of it, connor did you think i was screaming at the did you think i was screaming at we ev— did you think i was screaming at we ev in— did you think i was screaming at we ev in ene— did you think i was screaming at the tv in the green— did you think i was screaming at the tv in the green room because is the tv in the green room because ie ene— the tv in the green room because ie we wee— the tv in the green room because is the idea that— the tv in the green room because is the idea that this— the tv in the green room because is the idea that this technology is the idea that this technology ie nee— is the idea that this technology ee nee geeng— is the idea that this technology ee nee goinglbe_ is the idea that this technology is not going be used for is not going to be used for eeeeweienew— is not going to be used for exclusionary purposes is eewgnenee. — exclusionary purposes is laughable. .of- exclusionary purposes is laughable. exclusionary purposes is- laughable. .of all, as you laughable. first of all, as you alluded sunak is alluded to, rishi sunak is currently the us chatting to currently in the us chatting to president biden, who probably

doesn't where is and doesn't know where he is and he's saying, i'm going to make the the hub for setting ai the uk the hub for setting ai policy appointed the policy. he is appointed the world forum as lead world economic forum as lead consultant. on consultant. this is on the government website policy government website on al policy and the economic forum and the world economic forum have this thing called have set up this thing called esg in conjunction with most of the funds that have a very the hedge funds that have a very large companies. large stake in most companies. so esg being environmental and eeeiee—vee- so esg being environmental and social—yes, words. social governance. yes, words enee—wn- social governance. yes, wordsi that—run cold. that make my blood run cold. ween— that make my blood run cold. ween-e— that make my blood run cold. yeah,-a corporate- that make my blood run cold. yeah, a corporate social yeah, that's a corporate social newe— yeah, that's a corporate social. enewe—enew-we credit score. and what they've done their document blueprint done in their document blueprint for identity back in for a digital identity back in 2014, uk cabinet 2014, which the uk cabinet office actually on, office actually consulted on, they set not a corporate they set not only a corporate identity but a consumer identity. so when you're on the balance sheet for a company's esg score, either your consumer base is compliant with esg , what base is compliant with esg, what they're twitter, they're posting on twitter, whether they're buying whether or not they're buying from because you're from your store because you're donating enough activist donating to enough activist causes, an asset donating to enough activist ca a es, an asset donating to enough activist ca a liability an asset donating to enough activist ca a liability for an asset donating to enough activist ca a liability for you an asset donating to enough activist ca a liability for you to asset donating to enough activist ca a liability for you to beset or a liability for you to be subsidised. what they're subsidised. so what they're going do is if you post the going to do is if you post the wrong thing on twitter and that's digital that's linked to your digital id, that's linked to your phone, sorry, not going to let sorry, we're not going to let you gate. can't buy your you in the gate. can't buy your food. it's brilliant. it's also eeew— food. it's brilliant. it's also eeew-neee— food. it's brilliant. it's also about-fact that- food. it's brilliant. it's also about-fact that a- food. it's brilliant. it's also. about-fact that a-the

about the fact that a lot of the eeenneeegiee— about the fact that a lot of the technologies which will be required— technologies which will be required-this- technologies which will be required this digital required to live in this digital wene— required to live in this digital wene newe— required to live in this digital world have been— required to live in this digital world have been patented. nwnnww— world have been patented.- funnily_massive funnily enough, by the massive eeneenewene— corporations and so those eeeenee— corporations and so those patents- not. - corporations and so those patents-not. so- corporations and so those patents not. so those those patents will not. so those those weeweee — patents will not. so those those products, those _ patents will not. so those those products, those technologies ww— products, those technologies wne-ef— products, those technologies wwe-ef ee- products, those technologies will-of use-a- products, those technologies will of use a builder will not be of use to a builder in will not be of use to a builder neee-enee- will not be of use to a builder in - because you - will not be of use to a builder in because you won't in redding because you won't newe— in redding because you won't neee—ef- have access to some of the eeenneeegw— have access to some of the technology. that's how this enee-e— technology. that's how this enee-e-ewne- technology. that's how this that's spins out, technology. that's how this. that's-spins out, isn't technology. that's how this tha more spins out, isn't technology. that's how this thamore moneyspins out, isn't technology. that's how this thamore money goingeut, isn't technology. that's how this thamore money going up isn't technology. that's how this thamore money going up top,: technology. that's how this thamore money going up top, top it? more money going up top, top eewn— it? more money going up top, top down, leadership— it? more money going up top, top down, leadership profit at the top,— down, leadership profit at the eee, enew— down, leadership profit at the top, small businesses collapse. down, leadership profit at the top, s it'sl businesses collapse. down, leadership profit at the top, s it's big sinesses collapse. down, leadership profit at the top, s it's big data. s collapse. down, leadership profit at the top, s it's big data. s collf“ se. down, leadership profit at the top, s it's big data. s collf“ yeah, it's big data. and this is why— yeah, it's big data. and this is why biden is al bill of why joe biden is al bill of rights. bill has appointed certain ngos the arbiters of certain ngos as the arbiters of what will fed into the what data will be fed into the algorithms eventually algorithms which will eventually govern just govern us. so they're just creating activist creating a permanent activist class tell us class that will then tell us exactly what we should buy and if we can buy it. lewis, lewis reigne— if we can buy it. lewis, lewis wgne. .— if we can buy it. lewis, lewis negne. . een-e— if we can buy it. lewis, lewis right. i don't know- �*" f f“ l lewis, lewis right. i don't know whether wene— right. i don't know whether wene .— right. i don't know whether weewe e een-e— right. i don't know whether you're i don't know how much wene— you're i don't know how much weewe en— you're i don't know how much you're aware of all of that eeeew— you're aware of all of that detail that— you're aware of all of that detail that of— you're aware of all of that detail that of was talking about enene.— detail that of was talking about enene. wee— detail that of was talking about there. not all— detail that of was talking about there. not all of— detail that of was talking about there. not all of that. ezf; : there. not all of that. he needs a there. not all of that. he needs e we— there. not all of that. he needs e we neee— there. not all of that. he needs a bit more about than i do, but look, all i can all i can say is i don't think that you guys are completely wrong. i'm lgbt, i'm paranoid by nature of what could what you use app to do what could you use the app to do in wrong person's hands? so in the wrong person's hands? so it worry. i do also think

it is a worry. i do also think it's a worry. as you were talking about before, about people's people just people's jobs, people just working people's jobs, people just wo sotg people's jobs, people just wo so i'm people's jobs, people just woso i'm cautious about it, it. so i'm cautious about it, but i will say probably 30 years ago we'd have had this argument about a mobile phone saying, oh, no, keep it, keep it strapped to the wall. we want to be the wall. we don't want to be walking with know walking around with it. i know that there's bit of that there's a bit of a difference there, but i think, like it or not, this is going to happen. one of these by happen. there's one of these by me. there's amazon one me. me. there's an amazon one by me. and was of like the video and i was kind of like the video shoot at the beginning. couldn't work get in, but they work out how to get in, but they will process. this is will refine the process. this is going happen. so we have to going to happen. so we have to look at, okay, if it's going to happen, we draw the happen, where do we draw the line? would you say on a day to day tech improvements are day basis, tech improvements are helping or improvements, tech changes your life changes are making your life easier that's easier or harder? oh, that's a really tricky one. and that's the really tricky one. and that's ene neee— really tricky one. and that's ene neee ef— really tricky one. and that's the root of it,— really tricky one. and that's the root of it, right? - ”efefllye ef

do you drive? no so if you're driving— do you drive? no so if you're driving ene— do you drive? no so if you're driving and you're parking your car driving and you're parking your ene— driving and you're parking your ene wen— driving and you're parking your car and you can't— driving and you're parking your car and you can't put money in ene— car and you can't put money in we newe— car and you can't put money in the metre anymore, it's exeewwng— the metre anymore, it's excluding excluding sorts excluding excluding all sorts of, excluding excluding all sorts en-wnew— excluding excluding all sorts of, know, particularly of, you know, particularly ewenw— of, you know, particularly elderly people - of, you know, particularly elderly people who want to use eeen— elderly people who want to use eeen te— elderly people who want to use eeen e w— elderly people who want to use cash is it making— elderly people who want to use cash is it making life cash is it making your life eeeeene— cash is it making your life easier? conor— cash is it making your life easier? conor i'd say it's newng— easier? conor i'd say it's newng w— easier? conor i'd say it's making it more alienating eeeeee— making it more alienating because -the- making it more alienating because the kind of because this is the kind of nenegenee— because this is the kind of managerial technological future enew-ne— managerial technological future they're promising— managerial technological future they're promising us. 'f“e: they're promising us. and this is something you hit upon in your monologue. we're going to have varieties have endless varieties of consumer social consumer goods, but no social mobility. no ability to have mobility. we no ability to have free choice. and what what they're making it is so that you don't have to have any social obugafions don't have to have any social obligations reliance each obligations or reliance on each other to access other in order to access all this material there's no this material goods. there's no bonds there's no bonds of sentiment. there's no sources of meaning. and that's why my generation, particularly, we've social media time we've got more social media time than more than ever. we've got more material ever, but material goods than ever, but we've our we've got a ceiling over our head we can't have a house head where we can't have a house and a family independently without wealth without a vast amount of wealth that and putting that we inherit. and putting it lightly , generation having lightly, my generation is having far relationship, less far fewer relationship, less intimate any other intimate than any other generation that's what generation prior. that's what technology it's technology is doing to us. it's castrating us. don't know castrating us. i don't know whether you saw apple have

introduced new headset introduced their new ai headset this week, was greeted this week, which was greeted with kind of well, generally excitement, predominantly . and excitement, predominantly. and that's what i think is interesting- that's what i think is interesting when these when eneee— interesting when these when eneee ne— interesting when these when these new products come online, wnen— these new products come online, wnen eneee— these new products come online, wnen eneee ne— these new products come online, when these new technologies, technological— when these new technologies, technological happen in technological advances happen in this technological advances happen in ewe—wen- technological advances happen in ewe—wen nwenl this conversation is very much enee.— this conversation is very much one sided. the— this conversation is very much one sided. the enthusiast ism. so one sided. the enthusiast ism. se wnen— one sided. the enthusiast ism. se wnen .— one sided. the enthusiast ism. se wnen . ee— one sided. the enthusiast ism. so when i was talking to steve, our so when i was talking to steve, fwwnee— so when i was talking to steve, our futurist just— so when i was talking to steve, our futurist just before about we— our futurist just before about wneeieee— our futurist just before about what jobs will— our futurist just before about what jobs will people do , no one what jobs will people do, no one can answer that— what jobs will people do, no one can answer that for— what jobs will people do, no one can answer that for me, eennwniw— can answer that for me, community service, art, the star new— community service, art, the star trek enterprise— community service, art, the star trek enterprise likes travelling the trek enterprise likes travelling ene geeew. — trek enterprise likes travelling the galaxy. that's- trek enterprise likes travelling the galaxy. ”cl ”cl the galaxy. that's where we're going. we're like, look at all the sci fi stuff in the future. yes, there are the dystopian nightmares and i am worried that is the way we could go. but then we could be off on starships exploring eventually. well, i guess could say you don't guess you could say you don't have you have a job that did not exist. years ago. if you're exist. ten years ago. if you're wenwng— exist. ten years ago. if you're wenwng ee— exist. ten years ago. if you're wenwng ee e— e:f;;e< ten years ago. if you're working as a podcast, you're ween— working as a podcast, you're ween, enee-e— working as a podcast, you're yeah, that's possibly the kind of yeah, that's possibly the kind en-enee— yeah, that's possibly the kind of-that would- yeah, that's possibly the kind. of-that would-under of work that would come under the of work that would come under ene-eeewee - of work that would come under the-creative and- the banner of creative and technological— the banner of creative and technological and self—driven. ween— technological and self—driven. yeah self—published. l l

yeah self—published. it's like enwewng.— yeah self—published. it's like anything, it's, i don't think anything, it's, i don't think anything is good or bad. it is how it is used, right? so yeah, i wouldn't be known 20 years ago, but you know, being able to, you know, on the bisexual front as well actually connect people that would have never been and never it been connected and never made it to mainstream, that's been to the mainstream, that's been useful. clear useful. so it's not clear cut right. let's useful. so it's not clear cut right . let's move on a little right. let's move on a little we.— right. let's move on a little we. eee-e— right. let's move on a little we. eee-e twee— right. let's move on a little bit. let's just talk- f g“ let's move on a little bit. let's just talk about newne— bit. let's just talk about nadine dorries, if we can. now, of course, everybody has the ngne— of course, everybody has the ngne ee— of course, everybody has the right to change— of course, everybody has the right to change their mind, but wewne— right to change their mind, but nadine dorries— right to change their mind, but nadine dorries this morning said she nadine dorries this morning said ene weene— nadine dorries this morning said ene weene geeng— nadine dorries this morning said she wasn't going to step down ene— she wasn't going to step down ene new— she wasn't going to step down and four hours— she wasn't going to step down and four hours later she said ene— and four hours later she said ene-new— and four hours later she said ene-wew ef— and four hours later she said she now of course she she did. now of course she weene— she did. now of course she weene in— she did. now of course she wasn't in the— she did. now of course she wasn't in the honours list for eewe— wasn't in the honours list for boris johnson. _ wasn't in the honours list for boris johnson. do— wasn't in the honours list for boris johnson. do you think enee-e— boris johnson. do you think that's what's— boris johnson. do you think that's what's behind this? conne— that's what's behind this? eenne .— that's what's behind this? connor i would— that's what's behind this? connor i would be- that's what's behind this? connor i would be surprised because she hasn't come out and said something against boris, even though being a boris loyalist. my frustration with nadine dorries that, nadine dorries is that, like many conservative politician , many conservative politician, she's labour has yet to be in government therefore government, therefore held to account. allowed to account. but they're allowed to fail doing fail upwards despite doing a complete disservice during lockdown and frankly, we've had the revelations from the telegraph this week that nadine dorries the

dorries department, the department for media, culture and under oliver dowden and sport under oliver dowden was spying on critics of lockdown, people like molly kingsley have asked for them. and when asked nadine and when they asked nadine dorries, your in dorries, what was your role in this, said, i don't really this, she said, i don't really know was going the know what was going on in the meetings. i just sort of vaguely heard about it. so either she is so at her didn't so bad at herjob, she didn't know what was meant to be know what she was meant to be doing and can't remember or she's so how is she she's just lying. so how is she allowed to have her own television show and essentially allowed to have her own televisi scotiow and essentially allowed to have her own televisi scot free? nd essentially allowed to have her own televisi scot free? justssentially allowed to have her own televisi scot free? just leave illy get off scot free? just leave the government tidy the government with a tidy little off absolutely no little pay off and absolutely no scrutiny? it's disgrace. scrutiny? i think it's disgrace. do slightly do you think she's slightly ennewn— do you think she's slightly ennewn-ew- do you think she's slightly thrown-out of- do you think she's slightly thrown out of her do you think she's slightly- thrown -out of her pram? thrown her toys out of her pram? eewe— thrown her toys out of her pram? eewie en— thrown her toys out of her pram? eewie en te— thrown her toys out of her pram? lewis or is she— thrown her toys out of her pram? lewis or is she just— thrown her toys out of her pram? lewis or is she just sounds like it lewis or is she just sounds like w eeee. — lewis or is she just sounds like w eeee. .— lewis or is she just sounds like it does. i mean,— lewis or is she just sounds like it does. i mean, i'd- lewis or is she just sounds like it does. e: lewis or is she just sounds like it does. f“ e: it does. i mean, i'd love to know happened those kind know what happened in those kind of between i'm of five hours between i'm nailing myself to the i'm nailing myself to the floor. i'm off. of here. so off. i'm out of here. so something happened. but i don't know. i mean, the thing know. i mean, the honest thing is that just happen is that did that just happen today?i is that did that just happen today? i mean, we've about today? i mean, we've known about this while. that there was this for a while. that there was this for a while. that there was this list of honours. was it a shock? because, of course, boris jenneen-e— shock? because, of course, boris jenneen-e-veen.- shock? because, of course, boris johnson's-yeah. you- johnson's father. yeah. you knew,— johnson's father. yeah. you know, stanley— johnson's father. / you know, stanley johnson johnson's father. veggie you know, stanley johnson has got johnson's father. veggie you know, stanley johnson has got an know, stanley johnson has got an nenew— know, stanley johnson has got an nenew in— know, stanley johnson has got an nenew in in— know, stanley johnson has got an honour in in boris—

know, stanley johnson has got an honour in in boris johnson's neeignewen— honour in in boris johnson's resignation list— honour in in boris johnson's resignation list ,_ honour in in boris johnson's resignation list , which it honour in in boris johnson's resignation list, which it just neggene— resignation list, which it just beggars belief— resignation list, which it just beggars belief that you can give yew— beggars belief that you can give wew ewn— beggars belief that you can give wew eee— beggars belief that you can give wew eee e— beggars belief that you can give your own dad a gong on the way ewe. — your own dad a gong on the way ewe. agein— your own dad a gong on the way out. again, another— your own dad a gong on the way out. egf f“ f“ out. again, another person who has, we say , a dangerous has, shall we say, a dangerous record of rhetoric. i was at a cop26 event and he finished the panel that he was chairing by saying that popular motion control was a good idea to kerb climate change. he has written a book this excuse me if i book about this excuse me if i don't think that that man with his dark designs should given his dark designs should be given an people allowed an honour again, people allowed to upwards. the to fail upwards. and the most funny i and i think this funny one i saw and i think this is correct, is that boris johnson giving his hairdresser an obe. i don't i've not heard enee— an obe. i don't i've not heard we ene— an obe. i don't i've not heard that one. david— cjfié i don't i've not heard that one. david cameron did give his that one. david cameron did give we—e- that one. david cameron did give we—e eew| his hairdresser an obe so i saw it his hairdresser an obe so i saw w en— his hairdresser an obe so i saw w en ewween— his hairdresser an obe so i saw it on twitter earlier as part of ewe— it on twitter earlier as part of we nenewe— it on twitter earlier as part of this honours-i- it on twitter earlier as part of this honours-i can- it on twitter earlier as part of this honours f f“ it on twitter earlier as part of. this honours-i can be fact this honours list. i can be fact checked. that's true. one, i'm shocked that boris johnson had a hairdresser. he clearly not hairdresser. he did clearly not eeing— hairdresser. he did clearly not eeing enee— hairdresser. he did clearly not doing that great— hairdresser. he did clearly not doing that great a— e: he did clearly not doing that great a job. but also why— doing that great a job. but also why ee— doing that great a job. but also why we— doing that great a job. but also why are we giving stylists royal honours? i to know if the honours? i want to know if the eeeeneeen— honours? i want to know if the eeeeneeen gee— honours? i want to know if the decorator got one.— ”57 i want to know if the decorator got one. remember the eeeeneeew — decorator got one. remember the decorator? - designer? - decorator got one. remember the decorator? : g f“e:f;”7 decorator? the designer? i think she one, didn't she? did she did get one, didn't she? did she?i she did get one, didn't she? did she? i have a feeling that she already had but i genuinely already had one, but i genuinely think we should do away

think that we should do away with of gong for with any sort of gong for anybody worked on. anybody that's worked on. i don't like the idea of prime ministers shoring up, currying favours with people under the cloak of secrecy and saying, do you know what? do this for us? because when i'm out the door, you're going to be i'll look after you. i think that's a eennwe— after you. i think that's a terrible thing.— after you. i think that's a terrible thing. it's- i think that's a terrible thing. it's how it's put— terrible thing. it's how it's we we— terrible thing. it's how it's put into practise, right? i eeeweew— put into practise, right? i actually think- put into practise, right? i actually think mps that have eewee— actually think mps that have eewee geenng— actually think mps that have served getting to go on to the eewe— served getting to go on to the eewe ene— served getting to go on to the eewe end we— served getting to go on to the lords and be kind of advisory ewe—enee— lords and be kind of advisory like _that that- like in practise that that enewe— like in practise that that should work.— like in practise that that should work. but it's not. it's all should work. but it's not. it's eee-we— should work. but it's not. it's ew-n-e ew- should work. but it's not. it's all-it's all,.you. all favours. it's all, as you say,— all favours. it's all, as you save-upwards-- all favours. it's all, as you say,-upwards..l,| all favours. it's all, as youi say,-upwards..l, i say, failing upwards. so i, i get— say, failing upwards. so i, i gee w— say, failing upwards. so i, i gee e in— say, failing upwards. so i, i get it in principle. but how we— get it in principle. but how we eeing— get it in principle. but how it's being acted— get it in principle. but how it's being acted out is not weee— it's being acted out is not wew. see-e— it's being acted out is not well. she's left- it's being acted out is not well. she's left , she's given well. she's left, she's given new— well. she's left, she's given rishi sunak— well. she's left, she's given rishi sunak a— well. she's left, she's given rishi sunak a problem because enene-e— rishi sunak a problem because enene-e geeng— rishi sunak a problem because enene-e geeng ee— rishi sunak a problem because there's going to be a by—election- there's going to be a by—election now in her constituency- by—election now in her constituency of mid bedfordshire. l constituency of mid- bedfordshire. itla very constituency of mid— bedfordshire. itla very safe bedfordshire. it is a very safe tory but frankly, there's tory seat. but frankly, there's no right now at the no such thing right now at the moment, right moment, is there? right gentlemen, thank much. gentlemen, thank you so much. you are watching listening you are watching and listening to you for to gb news. thank you for joining still come, joining me. still to come, birmingham, manchester and peterborough. are they in the north? interesting north? we've got an interesting conversation makes conversation about what makes you makes you you northern, what makes you southern, and it

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britain's news— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news, britain's news .— thursday at 8 pm. on gb news, britain's news. channel very geee— britain's news. channel very geee eweneng. — britain's news. channel very good evening. thank you for watching the telly on such a beautiful evening. or maybe you're listening to me on the radio in your garden with a beer . either way, am bev turner in . either way, i am bev turner in for laurence fox this evening. now the north south now the famous north south divide well, it never divide is back. well, it never really went but there's really went away, but there's a new north south divide calculation and it's in pasties . at least the number of them here is the map. yes, more digital goblins, right? so artificial intelligence has decided to divide the country . decided to divide the country. three, based on the number of greggs bakeries compared to pret a manger . greggs bakeries compared to pret a manger. right. so the logic behind this, it sounds a bit crazy, but it's sort of works because what they're basically saying is that people who shop in pret a manger as well have slightly higher incomes . and slightly higher incomes. and greggs is perhaps people of a lower socioeconomic group, blah blah, blah. so it is about

social class, but it's very much north south divide. now, connor, you drew your own map. this was a while ago. it caused— you drew your own map. this was a while ago. it caused a- e: ” this was a while ago. it caused a little bit a while ago. it caused a little we ee— a while ago. it caused a little we ee eee.— a while ago. it caused a little bit of stir. yeah.— a while ago. it caused a little bit of stir. yeah. so let's have a bit of stir. yeah. so let's have e eeew— bit of stir. yeah. so let's have e eeee ee— bit of stir. yeah. so let's have a look at what— bit of stir. yeah. so let's have a look at what you did. talk me enough— a look at what you did. talk me through this one. it was- a look at what you did. talk me through this one. it was a- a look at what you did. g it was a bit through this one. it was a bit of a through this one. it was a bit ee e wine— through this one. it was a bit ee e wine we— through this one. it was a bit of a wind up, but— through this one. it was a bit of a wind up, but two,- g it was a bit of a wind up, but two, i'm just going— of a wind up, but two, i'm just geeng ee— of a wind up, but two, i'm just going to commit— of a wind up, but two, i'm just going to commit-it- of a wind up, but two, i'm just going to commit it for the going to commit to it for the we — going to commit to it for the we .— going to commit to it for the we . enne— going to commit to it for the bit. i think luton_ going to commit to it for the bit. i think luton milton bit. i think luton and milton eewnee— bit. i think luton and milton keynes-northern- bit. i think luton and milton keynes northern cities in keynes are northern cities in eneneeeen— keynes are northern cities in eneneeeen ee— keynes are northern cities in character, so we're going to ennexe-enen- character, so we're going to annexe -then the| character, so we're going to- annexe -then the south annexe those and then the south can annexe those and then the south -owew,— annexe those and then the south can oxford, cambridge can still have oxford, cambridge and can still have oxford, cambridge ene ee— can still have oxford, cambridge and some of east— can still have oxford, cambridge and some of east anglia and east wngwe— and some of east anglia and east wngwe-ee— and some of east anglia and east wngwe-eelee- and some of east anglia and east anglia -of i its own - anglia can kind of be its own ewng— anglia can kind of be its own ewng-ee— anglia can kind of be its own ewng-ee-sel anglia can kind of be its own. thing -to -so it'd thing parallel to wales. so it'd be thing parallel to wales. so it'd eee-nee— thing parallel to wales. so it'd be-nice little— thing parallel to wales. so it'd be nice little sister be like a nice little sister wing.— be like a nice little sister wing-enen- be like a nice little sister thing.-then else thing. and then everyone else enee— thing. and then everyone else enee-wee— thing. and then everyone else that-like the- thing. and then everyone else that like the south can that doesn't like the south can eene— that doesn't like the south can can band together. so yours wee-ne— can band together. so yours wasn't based on, on any sort of meat based snack products. well, no, because theirs is eeewee,— rubbish, right? because it has ewineee— rubbish, right? because it has ewineee in— rubbish, right? because it has swindle in the— rubbish, right? because it has swindle in the south and that neeee— swindle in the south and that makes sense. but for the makes sense. but for not the reason they've put it there, eeeeee— reason they've put it there, eeeeee .— reason they've put it there, because i actually work in swineen— because i actually work in swindon and— because i actually work in swindon and swindon has multiple enegge— greggs, but i've never seen a wee— greggs, but i've never seen a wee ee— greggs, but i've never seen a wee ee ene— greggs, but i've never seen a pret so and swindon is a greggs eewn— pret so and swindon is a greggs eewn nee— pret so and swindon is a greggs eewn nee e— pret so and swindon is a greggs town, not a pret— pret so and swindon is a greggs town, not a pret town. it's not very— town, not a pret town. it's not very eeewe,— town, not a pret town. it's not very eewgee, yew— town, not a pret town. it's not very bougie, you know, it's very wenwng— very bougie, you know, it's very wenwng eeeee— very bougie, you know, it's very working class. so— very bougie, you know, it's very working class. so doesn't working class. so that doesn't enee— working class. so that doesn't enee twee— working class. so that doesn't that just doesn't— working class. so that doesn't that just doesn't add up me that just doesn't add up to me at that just doesn't add up to me ee-eeeieeew— that just doesn't add up to me at-basically, this- that just doesn't add up to me at basically, this was at all. so basically, this was researchers— at all. so basically, this was. researchers—hallam researchers at sheffield hallam

wnweneew— researchers at sheffield hallam wnweneew-e—e- university and they 1—1 eeneewen— university and they 1—1 particular-a- university and they 1—1 particular a speaker university and they 1—1 particular-a speaker the particular talk a speaker at the eneeennen — particular talk a speaker at the cheltenham science festival, a woman_mclean,| cheltenham science festival, a. woman—mclean, she woman called sophie mclean, she neeeneneee—iel referenced this on how maths is neeewene— referenced this on how maths is neeewene ee— referenced this on how maths is relevant to everyday questions . relevant to everyday questions. wne— relevant to everyday questions. we we— relevant to everyday questions. we we eew.— relevant to everyday questions. and she said, you— relevant to everyday questions. and she said, you know,- relevant to everyday questions. and she said, you know, you could imagine the single pret in newcastle surrounded by a swarm of greggs, and in london they say you're never more than six metres a or a pret metres from a rat or a pret greggs is a symbol of the north because it's first bakery was openedin because it's first bakery was opened in newcastle in 51 while pret first opened in hampstead in 1984. it's a bit tongue in cheek this, isn't it louis, but doesit cheek this, isn't it louis, but does it tell us something? do you think about the difference between the north and the south? yeah, it does. you know, yeah, i think it does. you know, i mean, i yeah, i think it does. you know, eeen . grew— yeah, i think it does. you know, eeneen . grew up— yeah, i think it does. you know, i mean, i grew up in— yeah, i think it does. you know, i mean, i grew up in the- i mean, i grew up in the wweenee— i mean, i grew up in the midlands and- i mean, i grew up in the midlands and there was i didn't even-weee— midlands and there was i didn't even -what-was- midlands and there was i didn't even what was until even know what pret was until i need— even know what pret was until i moved-london. _ even know what pret was until i moved-london. so- even know what pret was until i moved london. so i think it moved to london. so i think it is moved to london. so i think it ie eeewe— moved to london. so i think it ie eeewe een— moved to london. so i think it is about sort of— moved to london. so i think it is about sort of lifestyle. and as is about sort of lifestyle. and ee wen— is about sort of lifestyle. and ee you eew— is about sort of lifestyle. and as you say, that— is about sort of lifestyle. and as you say, that price point, eeenewgn— as you say, that price point, although they're— as you say, that price point, although they're getting closer and although they're getting closer ene—enene- although they're getting closer and—aren't they,- and closer now, aren't they, wen— and closer now, aren't they, wen-enee— and closer now, aren't they, with price points. but you with those price points. but you knew,— with those price points. but you enewlewne— with those price points. but you enewlewne e— with those price points. but you know,ithink it is— with those price points. but you know, think it is thing know, i think it is that thing ene— know, i think it is that thing ene-nene— know, i think it is that thing the-more north- know, i think it is that thing the more north you go, the sort of more north you go, ene—yew- the sort of more north you go, ene—yew eee,- the sort of more north you go, the _you see, thei the more greggs you see, the neee—ge- the more greggs you see, the —ege gei more people that will go go enene.— more people that will go go enene-wee- more people that will go go there.-pret is- more people that will go go there. pret is very a there. whereas pret is very a sewenenn— there. whereas pret is very a southern thing.— there. whereas pret is very a southern thing. so it actually eeee— southern thing. so it actually eeee neee— southern thing. so it actually does make sense. i just think

enene-e— does make sense. i just think enene-e e— does make sense. i just think there's a.more_ does make sense. i just think there's a.morelit- does make sense. i just think there's a more it than there's a lot more to it than enen— there's a lot more to it than eeen-ene— there's a lot more to it than than-and your- there's a lot more to it than than and your grade. i think than you and your grade. i think it's than you and your grade. i think e-e—enewgn- than you and your grade. i think e-e—enewgn n.- it's been blended though in eeee— it's been blended though in recent-because- it's been blended though in recent because 02 priority recent years because 02 priority newe— recent years because 02 priority newe nee— recent years because 02 priority now have free greggs rather than i now have free greggs rather than e—weee— now have free greggs rather than e—weee ee— now have free greggs rather than e—weee ee ee- now have free greggs rather than i_used to do free- i think they used to do free eefe— i think they used to do free eefe-en— i think they used to do free cafe -or-like. i think they used to do free. cafe -or-like that. cafe nero or things like that. so cafe nero or things like that. se-ewing— cafe nero or things like that. se-enwng ee— cafe nero or things like that. so-trying to bring- so they're trying to bring greggs into the middle greggs more into the middle class consumer lifestyle of all the by signing to the benefits by signing up to your thing. do you think your phone thing. do you think enene-e— your phone thing. do you think enene-e ewe— your phone thing. do you think there's this conversation- ” “q do you think there's this conversation about eeewe— there's this conversation about eeeiee eeeeee— there's this conversation about social class? because i love ewe— social class? because i love this conversation— social class? because i love this conversation on being a eeen— this conversation on being a born-mancunian. born and bred mancunian who's wee—neew- lived in london for nearly 25 wewe— lived in london for nearly 25 weee—we- lived in london for nearly 25 weee—we eeenl lived in london for nearly 25. years._bit posh now years. even talk a bit posh now eeeneeeenee— years. even talk a bit posh now sometimes, you— years. even talk a bit posh now sometimes, you know, do you enne— sometimes, you know, do you ewne enee— sometimes, you know, do you think that-that- think that that that conversation and conversation is still valid and new— conversation is still valid and new-eeewe— conversation is still valid and how define where you sit how do you define where you sit eeeieewe— how do you define where you sit socially?- metrics- how do you define where you sit socially? metrics can we socially? what metrics can we ee — socially? what metrics can we use to decide— socially? what metrics can we use to decide whether someone is wenwng — use to decide whether someone is wenwng eeeee— use to decide whether someone is working class, middle class, upper— working class, middle class, upper neewe,— working class, middle class, upper middle, higher ? where do upper middle, higher? where do you upper middle, higher? where do wew ee— upper middle, higher? where do wew en en— upper middle, higher? where do you sit on that?— upper middle, higher? where do you sit on that? i— upper middle, higher? where do you sit on that? i think that we— you sit on that? i think that we eeen— you sit on that? i think that it's been changed since around the it's been changed since around we mn— it's been changed since around we we eee— it's been changed since around the mid 90s, particularly eeeeee— the mid 90s, particularly because of— the mid 90s, particularly because of tony blair's focus on eeweeeen— because of tony blair's focus on education, education, education of education, education, education ee-enew— education, education, education ee-enew-ew- education, education, education of-they-off loads. education, education, education of they off loads of of where they send off loads of wee— of where they send off loads of wee-newer— of where they send off loads of kids,.matter what- of where they send off loads of kids, matter what their kids, no matter what their ewenee— kids, no matter what their parents social— kids, no matter what their parents social class was to wnweneew— parents social class was to university institutions which parents social class was to unthheiry institutions which parents social class was to unthheir headitutions which parents social class was to unthheir head with ns which parents social class was to unthheir head with ns visame fill their head with the same een— fill their head with the same een ee— fill their head with the same een ee-ee— fill their head with the same sort of-it makes- fill their head with the samei sort of-it makes them sort of stuff. it makes them more managerial rather at more managerial rather than at a local and it's also been local level. and it's also been more because more atomised because most

people london people will travel to london outside hometown or one of outside their hometown or one of the bigger cities, maybe manchester or something like that, have been that, where they might have been in a more marginal and so in a more marginal town. and so you'll up that continuity you'll break up that continuity of living and of your family living there. and most time you're not most of the time you're not doing much anyway doing it for very much anyway because making ends meet. because you're making ends meet. you're earn much as you're trying to earn as much as you can just to cling on to the high rent amount so you're not really bringing much home really bringing much back home with so all of this with you. and so all of this focus on building immediate wealth younger, focus on building immediate wealth more younger, focus on building immediate wealth more and younger, focus on building immediate wealth more and moreinger, focus on building immediate wealth more and more education, getting more and more education, it's local and it's atomised local towns and communities made everyone communities us and made everyone kind of the and so i think kind of the same. and so i think the divide is between do you the big divide is between do you value pipeline from value that pipeline from prolonging education to prolonging your education to your 20s, go into the city your mid 20s, go into the city and trying to make something of yourself coming and trying to make something of yoursnot coming and trying to make something of yoursnot owning coming and trying to make something of yoursnot owning much,»ming and trying to make something of yoursnot owning much, or ng and trying to make something of yoursnot owning much, or do you back not owning much, or do you value trades and practical value the trades and practical wisdom about down wisdom that you talk about down the pub? lewis would you say you're same class as you're the same social class as your were? oh, i don't your parents were? oh, i don't know. your parents were? oh, i don't enew—ewe- your parents were? oh, i don't know._this show,. your parents were? oh, i don'ti know._this show, so your parents were? oh, i don't. know._this show, so i know. they watch this show, so i een-e— know. they watch this show, so i wene—wene- know. they watch this show, so i wene—wene ee- know. they watch this show, so i don't—want to say. j don't know what i want to say. eeewee— don't know what i want to say. eeewee enen— don't know what i want to say. posher than you _ don't know what i want to say. posher than you or— don't know what i want to say. posher than you or less- don't know what i want to say. posher than you or less posh. i know i'm posher, but they they wee— know i'm posher, but they they wee weeeew— know i'm posher, but they they will probably-but- know i'm posher, but they they will probably but here's will probably have. but here's the will probably have. but here's ene-eeewee— will probably have. but here's the they'll probably the thing. they'll probably enew— the thing. they'll probably enew-te— the thing. they'll probably

their is probably their house is probably bigger enen— their house is probably bigger eeen—ewe- their house is probably bigger than—able to- their house is probably bigger than able to afford than i would be able to afford neee.— than i would be able to afford neee. ee— than i would be able to afford here. so who's— than i would be able to afford here. so who's who's laughing new— here. so who's who's laughing wnw— here. so who's who's laughing why yew— here. so who's who's laughing now? why you know what i mean. why— now? why you know what i mean. why-vou— now? why you know what i mean. why-you eewee— now? why you know what i mean. why-you posher than- now? why you know what i mean. why-you posher than them?- now? why you know what i mean. why .you posher than them? i why are you posher than them? they what happened they always say, what happened to they always say, what happened ee-vew— they always say, what happened ee-vew-wew— they always say, what happened to-you-your accent- they always say, what happened to you your accent and to you? you lost your accent and you— to you? you lost your accent and yew-eeen— to you? you lost your accent and yew-eeen wee.— to you? you lost your accent and you-posh like. so— to you? you lost your accent and you posh like. so that's the you got posh like. so that's the ewe.— you got posh like. so that's the geee-en— you got posh like. so that's the geee-en nene- you got posh like. so that's the joke. i'm home where you got posh like. so that's the joktyou i'm home where you got posh like. so that's the joktyou shop i'm home where you got posh like. so that's the joktyou shop what home where you got posh like. so that's the joktyou shop what you ne where you got posh like. so that's the joktyou shop what you spendere you got posh like. so that's the joktyou shop what you spend your are you shop what you spend your nenew— are you shop what you spend your nenew-ewe— are you shop what you spend your money-but ironically- are you shop what you spend your money “elg money on. but ironically saying parents. so in a whatsapp money on. f“lg ”ezf; so in a whatsapp like, parents. so in a whatsapp like, oh, parents. so in a whatsapp like, en-eening— parents. so in a whatsapp like, en-eening ee— parents. so in a whatsapp like, en-eening ee ny- ”ezf; so in a whatsapp like, oh, coming to my parents, oh, i'm coming to my parents, enew-ne— oh, i'm coming to my parents, they're wee,— oh, i'm coming to my parents, they're like, don't— oh, i'm coming to my parents, they're like, don't call your they're like, don't call us your ewenee—wewl parents, your mum and your dad. oh, parents, your mum and your dad. on, enene-e— parents, your mum and your dad. oh, there's like,— parents, your mum and your dad. oh, there's like, there's words enee—een-el that they don't. they don't eeeeneee— that they don't. they don'ti eeeeneee—nw tolerate people, people my genenewen— tolerate people, people my generation little bit of generation have a little bit of an generation have a little bit of en wneneen— generation have a little bit of an american-as- generation have a little bit of an american as well. an american inflexion as well. so an american inflexion as well. so enew— an american inflexion as well. so enew wee— an american inflexion as well. so they use random— an american inflexion as well. words because they've spent so much time consuming american content, whether political content, whether it be political or just idly scrolling on. tiktok they've imbibed kind tiktok they've imbibed that kind of so. of universal accent. yeah, so. right, right. in fact, there's a eeew— right, right. in fact, there's a eeewlene— right, right. in fact, there's a story .the -today- right, right. in fact, there's a story the today about story in the paper today about the story in the paper today about ene-ene— story in the paper today about the-the northern- the fact that the northern eeeene— the fact that the northern eeeene te— the fact that the northern accent is disappearing. weeeeww— accent is disappearing. hopefully now, you are hopefully not now, you are weeewng— hopefully not now, you are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb wewe.— watching and listening to gb wewe. weee— watching and listening to gb news. next. i'm— watching and listening to gb news. next. i'm hearing you news. next. i'm hearing from you as news. next. i'm hearing from you ee—wew— news. next. i'm hearing from you ee—wew n.- news. next. i'm hearing from you ee—wew n. e- as well. i'll see you in a ninwee—

good evening. thank you l: f“ “elg thank you for good evening. thank you for joining . good evening. thank you for joining ene— . good evening. thank you for joining eew— . good evening. thank you for joining me. bev turner— . good evening. thank you for joining me. bev turner in- . good evening. thank you for joining me. bev turner in for- joining me. bev turner in for ewwene eew— joining me. bev turner in for lawrence fox tonight. now, are you— lawrence fox tonight. now, are wew wee— lawrence fox tonight. now, are wew eiee ee— lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick of people— lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick of people infantilizing lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick the )eople infantilizing lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick the nanny infantilizing lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick the nanny state ilizing lawrence fox tonight. now, are you sick the nanny state telling you and the nanny state telling you and the nanny state telling wew weee— you and the nanny state telling wew wnee ee— you and the nanny state telling wew wnee ee ee— you and the nanny state telling you what to do ?_ you and the nanny state telling you what to do ? here are some you what to do? here are some eeeneeee— you what to do? here are some exenneee .— you what to do? here are some eeeneeee . n— you what to do? here are some examples . if you— you what to do? here are some examples . if you think you what to do? here are some examples. if you think i'm overreacting. _ examples. if you think i'm overreacting. so this was a neewe— overreacting. so this was a weewe ee— overreacting. so this was a picture of some— overreacting. so this was a picture of some tube steps that i picture of some tube steps that . eeew — picture of some tube steps that . eeew wne— picture of some tube steps that eeeew wne en— picture of some tube steps that i took. and on the— picture of some tube steps that i took. and on the on the up weee— i took. and on the on the up weee ee— i took. and on the on the up weee ee ene— i took. and on the on the up plate of the steps in case wenee— plate of the steps in case you're listening on the radio, it you're listening on the radio, e eewe— you're listening on the radio, e eeewee-- you're listening on the radio, it says,-use the- you're listening on the radio, it says, use the lifts. it says, please use the lifts. it it says, please use the lifts. n eewe— it says, please use the lifts. n we yew— it says, please use the lifts. it tells you that— it says, please use the lifts. it tells you that three times. i een-e— it tells you that three times. i wene-weee— it tells you that three times. i don't-what we're- it tells you that three times. i don't what we're supposed don't know what we're supposed to don't know what we're supposed ee—ewneeeee- don't know what we're supposed ee—eweeeeee ee| to be doing. we're supposed to be to be doing. we're supposed to eee—en- to be doing. we're supposed to eee—en enew-wel be losing weight. oh, they've newee— be losing weight. oh, they've newee en— be losing weight. oh, they've moved on before— be losing weight. oh, they've moved on before i could read it to moved on before i could read it e yew.— moved on before i could read it e wew. wne— moved on before i could read it ee wew. wne e— moved on before i could read it to you. and it says— moved on before i could read it to you. and it says things like, een-e— to you. and it says things like, een-e wen— to you. and it says things like, een-e wen-e— to you. and it says things like, don't rush it might be don't rush and it might be slipping-— don't rush and it might be slipping-here's- don't rush and it might be slipping. here's of slipping. and here's a jar of eeenwe— slipping. and here's a jar ofi eeenwe—new peanut butter that says may eenewn— peanut butter that says may contain nuts.— peanut butter that says may contain nuts. now lewis oakley, een|een— contain nuts. now lewis oakley, een|een-eeewe- contain nuts. now lewis oakley, can can about these at can i can we talk about these at ene-ee— can i can we talk about these at ene-w e— can i can we talk about these at ene-w e enee— can i can we talk about these at one at a time? don't rush. one step at a time? don't rush. we— one step at a time? don't rush. wne-tweeee— one step at a time? don't rush. are-idiots? we're- one step at a time? don't rush. are idiots? we're not idiots. are we idiots? we're not idiots. wne— are we idiots? we're not idiots. wne .— are we idiots? we're not idiots. wne . enne— are we idiots? we're not idiots. and i think guidance— are we idiots? we're not idiots. and i think guidance is- are we idiots? we're not idiots. and i think guidance is fine. it's when it's mandated that it's problem. i will say it's the problem. but i will say this, , there's all this, you know, there's all those signs that say, do not take your prams on the lift. and i've got a double pram because our kids are quite small. and i'm oh, forget it. but i'm like, oh, forget it. but actually almost all died like

actually we almost all died like quite recent because the wheel caught on the lift on the escalator as we were going up and we all flew back. so i'm like, actually, you know what? maybe need the maybe some people do need the signs. so maybe some people do need the signs . so we are all suffering signs. so we are all suffering eeeeee— signs. so we are all suffering eeeeee ee— signs. so we are all suffering because of people— lgf“~;f so we are all suffering because of people like lg“; so we are all suffering because of people like you lgf“; so we are all suffering because of people like you being too because of people like you being eee eenew— because of people like you being too stupid-take— because of people like you being too stupid-take a- because of people like you being too stupid take a double too stupid to not take a double bogey— too stupid to not take a double eegew en— too stupid to not take a double eegew en ene— too stupid to not take a double bogey on the escalator. connor weee— bogey on the escalator. connor weee teewng— bogey on the escalator. connor we're looking at— bogey on the escalator. connor we're looking at one now. this wene— we're looking at one now. this wene ewe— we're looking at one now. this wene ewe ee— we're looking at one now. this went out to farmers today from the government— went out to farmers today from the government to _ went out to farmers today from the government to say with hot weeenen— the government to say with hot weather forecast, _ the government to say with hot weather forecast, livestock eeenene— weather forecast, livestock keepers, who've weather forecast, livestock- keepers, -who've normally keepers, farmers who've normally eeen — keepers, farmers who've normally eeen eeing — keepers, farmers who've normally eeen eeing e— keepers, farmers who've normally been doing it for— keepers, farmers who've normally been doing it for generations . been doing it for generations. weeee— been doing it for generations. please continue— been doing it for generations. please continue to ensure the neewe— please continue to ensure the neeen ee— please continue to ensure the health of your— please continue to ensure the health of your animals by weweeng— health of your animals by providing water and food. “efef f“ providing water and food. yeah, you providing water and food. yeah, we wowe— providing water and food. yeah, you would imagine— providing water and food. yeah, you would imagine that that would be a very obvious thing. but they don't trust our intelligence. one of the things that me, get about six that annoys me, i get about six trains day just get to work trains a day just to get to work and and you hear multiple and back and you hear multiple times journey. times throughout the journey. and to disparage and i don't want to disparage a british transport police have actually quite good my actually been quite good in my interactions but the interactions with them but the see it sorted thing on see it say it sorted thing on every it's encouraging a culture of the annoying every it's encouraging a culture of as the annoying every it's encouraging a culture of as well the annoying every it's encouraging a culture of as well is the annoying every it's encouraging a culture of as well is that annoying every it's encouraging a culture of as well is that okayling every it's encouraging a culture of as well is that okay i'm thing as well is that okay i'm getting whiplash between their infantilize and treating getting whiplash between their inf like ize and treating getting whiplash between their inf like kids and treating getting whiplash between their inf like kids whereas d treating getting whiplash between their inf like kids whereas actualing us like kids whereas actual crimes people walking down

crimes or people walking down the sitting in it, oh, the road and sitting in it, oh, you're do that with you're allowed to do that with impunity. don't actually sort impunity. we don't actually sort out the criminal element that will hop those plastic turnstile as but you've got as in audi. but no, you've got to it by the book act to do it by the book and act like with your hand held like a child with your hand held by government. it's by the government. yeah, it's just sticker. don't read it. just a sticker. don't read it. but. but don't you think- but. but don't you think it's een— but. but don't you think it's een ee — but. but don't you think it's sort of. kind— but. but don't you think it's sort of. kind of— but. but don't you think it's sort of. “l : le:f sort of. kind of develops inside of idea that nobody of us this idea that nobody should responsibility for should take responsibility for themselves? there's of themselves? there's no sense of individuality, is. individuality, but maybe is. maybe well, we told maybe it's like, well, we told you,— maybe it's like, well, we told wew .— maybe it's like, well, we told wew . een-e— maybe it's like, well, we told you, i don't-live - maybe it's like, well, we told you, i don't live in you, i don't want to live in enee— you, i don't want to live in enee wene,— you, i don't want to live in that world, though. : f“ l you, i don't want to live in that world, though. lefe“ l that world, though. i don't want to that world, though. i don't want ee wee— that world, though. i don't want ee wwele— that world, though. i don't want to live a world where where to live in a world where where do you know what it is as well? it's like it's litigation, isn't it? insurance and it? it's insurance and litigation. because you litigation. because if you haven't warned somebody, the floor and sometimes floor is slippy. and sometimes in admittedly, in the workplace, admittedly, that a good idea. that might be quite a good idea. but idea that we can't but this idea that we can't think ourselves we think for ourselves and that we are completely complete are completely idiots, complete idiots. all bought idiots. so we've just all bought into it. so if you can't eeeieew— into it. so if you can't socially correct- l so if you can't socially correct for an error, enee-e— socially correct for an error, enewe-nee— socially correct for an error, that's mad thing. it's like, that's the mad thing. it's like, solsomeone slips- that's the mad thing. it's like, so someone slips up and falls so if someone slips up and falls you een-e— so if someone slips up and falls over, you don't-to- so if someone slips up and falls over, you don't to help over, you don't rush to help enen. — over, you don't rush to help them. .almost- over, you don't rush to help them. almost oh, them. it's almost like, oh, you wen-e— them. it's almost like, oh, you wene-ene— them. it's almost like, oh, you didn't-the-it's- them. it's almost like, oh, you didn't-the-it's youri didn't read the sign. it's your ewn-veen— didn't read the sign. it's your own -yeah you're- own fault. yeah you're outsourcing- own fault. yeah you're outsourcing kind

outsourcing any kind of eennwniw— outsourcing any kind of- community _well, community concern to. well, enene-e— community concern to. well, eeewee-ee- community concern to. well, there's-of signs- community concern to. well, there's of signs there there's a bunch of signs there enee— there's a bunch of signs there enee eew— there's a bunch of signs there enee eew wen— there's a bunch of signs there that tell you you— there's a bunch of signs there that tell you you should have eene— that tell you you should have done otherwise.— that tell you you should have done otherwise. so well, done otherwise. so oh, well, but are done otherwise. so oh, well, but ene-nee— done otherwise. so oh, well, but are - not - because - are they not there because weee— are they not there because weee wee— are they not there because idiots like-did- are they not there because idiots like did take their idiots like me did take their wene— idiots like me did take their wene we— idiots like me did take their wene we ene— idiots like me did take their prams up the escalators? enew-ee— prams up the escalators? eeewee-yew- prams up the escalators? they're-you know- prams up the escalators? . they're-you know what? they're like, you know what? let's on. like, maybe let's put a sign on. like, maybe it is. it's. maybe it's the other way around. it's not that they think stupid, it's they think we're stupid, it's that have been stupid. i that people have been stupid. i have faith in humanity that people have been stupid. ii have -faith in humanity than have more faith in humanity than enee—eel that. if anything's come out of eenigne-e— that. if anything's come out of tonight's hopefully is tonight's show, hopefully it is enee—een- tonight's show, hopefully it is that. for watching. that. thank you for watching. enene— that. thank you for watching. thank-louis— that. thank you for watching. thank louis oakley. connor thank you. louis oakley. connor eenwneen— thank you. louis oakley. connor tomlinson—me.- tomlinson forjoining me. up neee— tomlinson forjoining me. up neee e— tomlinson forjoining me. up neee e e— tomlinson forjoining me. up next, it is the— tomlinson forjoining me. up next, it is the wonderful he was my tv— next, it is the wonderful he was my ev nweeene— next, it is the wonderful he was my tv husband for— next, it is the wonderful he was my tv husband for days this my tv husband for two days this weee—evening,- week, mark dolan. evening, alex eeewn— week, mark dolan. evening, alex deakin_latest- deakin here with your latest weeenen— deakin here with your latest weather update— deakin here with your latest weather update from the met eewee— weather update from the met eewee-newe- weather update from the met office - news. - weather update from the met office - news. the. office for gb news. the weeenee-e— office for gb news. the weather's changing this weekend. office for gb news. the weatfor's changing this weekend. office for gb news. the weatfor most nging this weekend. office for gb news. the weatfor most itiing this weekend. office for gb news. the weatfor most it willthis weekend. office for gb news. the weatfor most it will stayveekend. office for gb news. the weatfor most it will stay dryzend. now for most it will stay dry with sunshine, but it's with hazy sunshine, but it's going be hotter that going to be hotter and that increased heat and humidity may spark low spark some thunderstorms. low pressure southwest, pressure down to the southwest, just the winds to just encouraging the winds to come the south, bringing come up from the south, bringing with it warmer and more humid air. we have that air. hence why we have that thunderstorm could even thunderstorm risk. we could even see 2 tonight across the see 1 or 2 tonight across the south—west of england. but for most be dry night. most it will be a dry night. that cloud coming back that cloud just coming back inland midlands parts inland over the midlands parts of northeast england and eastern

scotland where been scotland, where it has been persistent for a long time now. temperatures will drop down to single figures, particularly over rural spots. over the north in rural spots. but to the south, staying but down to the south, staying in the teens, a warm night in the teens, quite a warm night . things to come . a sign of things to come because that warm or humid air is spreading further north. and with the risk of heavy with it, the risk of heavy showers. most will have dry showers. most will have a dry fine saturday. the fine start to saturday. the cloud from the cloud should melt away from the midlands, may cling to the midlands, but may cling to the coast northeast and coast of northeast england and eastern scotland. then the eastern scotland. and then the showers break hit and miss, showers break out, hit and miss, not everywhere catching them, but do occur, they but where they do occur, they could and they're could be thundery and they're being this in being caused by this increase in temperature. 30 temperature. we could touch 30 celsius. will be a much celsius. it will be a much warmer, much more humid day for the vast majority. and that potential thunderstorms potential for thunderstorms continues into the evening. the heavy showers will then drift further north through the night into for a time northern ireland, parts of scotland and were much larger area at risk from downpours than during sunday. it will be a warmer night as well across the board with temperatures in some towns and cities in the south staying

in the high teens potentially. sunday then with showers sunday then starts with showers across scotland. many across western scotland. many other places dry and many will stay that way through .

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