to let a very sensible decision to let laurence lex— a very sensible decision to let laurence fox have— a very sensible decision to let laurence fox have a clear run at wage.— laurence fox have a clear run at uxbridge- se— laurence fox have a clear run at uxbridge. so reform uk will not be peeing— uxbridge. so reform uk will not be putting a— uxbridge. so reform uk will not be putting a candidate forward in be putting a candidate forward ln uxbridge.— be putting a candidate forward in uxbridge. but— be putting a candidate forward in uxbridge. but we have a fantastic— in uxbridge. but we have a fantastic candidate in mid bedfordshire_ fantastic candidate in mid bedfordshire ._ fantastic candidate in mid bedfordshire . i don't know how bedfordshire. i don't know how much— bedfordshire. i don't know how much .— bedfordshire. i don't know how much l can— bedfordshire. i don't know how much l sav— bedfordshire. i don't know how much i can say because i didn't. l-m— much i can say because i didn't. l-m sure— much i can say because i didn't. i'm sure laurence— much i can say because i didn't. i'm sure laurence fox— much i can say because i didn't. i'm sure laurence fox announced that he was going to contest that he was going to contest that seat. mid bedfordshire . that seat. mid bedfordshire. no, no, he's doing he's doing uxbridge.— no, no, he's doing he's doing uxbridge. le— no, no, he's doing he's doing uxbridge. is he?— no, no, he's doing he's doing uxbridge. is he.7 he's doing uxbridge. is he? he's doing uxbridge— uxbridge. is he? he's doing uxbridge and— uxbridge. is he? he's doing uxbridge and i've pledged my campaigning— uxbridge and i've pledged my campaigning support to him because you— campaigning support to him because, you know. yeah, i have because— because, you know. yeah, i have because-pere— because, you know. yeah, i have because-part of,- because, you know. yeah, i have because part of, you because we are part of, you knew,— because we are part of, you know, we're part- because we are part of, you know, we're part of the same faerie. — know, we're part of the same faerie. l— know, we're part of the same lellle. l gee— know, we're part of the same fabric. i get a— know, we're part of the same fabric. i get a bit- know, we're part of the same fabric. 93. . f: fabric. i get a bit confused about how many so one's reclaim one's reform. and one of the things that i worry about is the splitting of votes because you've got all these different random parties. well, that's that's why that's why reform uk is standing in in uxbridge. is not standing in in uxbridge. you will recall in 2019, the brexit party i actually ran stood in the general election for hull. and if truth be told, when i reflect on that , all we when i reflect on that, all we actually achieved was to split the brexit vote . so the seat the brexit vote. so the seat that i was it's my home seat

actually, where we all live, my family live. et cetera. alan johnson's old seat, if you're interested. anyway, it was labour it was labour . it's labour held. it was labour. it's been labour ever since. that particular was set up. particular seat was set up. i really want different for that city. believe that really in city. i believe that really in hull a good shake up. hull you'd have a good shake up. you could really some you could really make some change. i stood and labour got re—elected and the reason that they re—elected is because, they got re—elected is because, as saying, we're making as i'm saying, we we're making we the brexit vote. but we split the brexit vote. but you're making you're making the tory argument it's an tory argument and it's an argument. i'm not making any argument. i'm not making any argument. telling truth. argument. i'm telling the truth. that's that the that's the argument that the wee— that's the argument that the . tories—conservatives. tories make. the conservatives. lllee-e— that's what that's what they say. — that's what that's what they say. -veee- that's what that's what they say. -votelonel that's what that's what they| say. -vote .one of say. they say vote for one of these— say. they say vote for one of these insurgents— say. they say vote for one of these insurgents and centre llglll— these insurgents and centre right-and- these insurgents and centre right and basically put right parties and basically put labour— right parties and basically put labour_ response. right parties and basically put labour response to labour in. but my response to thee— labour in. but my response to that end— labour in. but my response to thee and l— labour in. but my response to that and i think— labour in. but my response to that and i think it— labour in. but my response to that and i think it holds true much— that and i think it holds true now much more— that and i think it holds true now much more than it did in 20.9— now much more than it did in 2019 because— now much more than it did in 2019 because in— now much more than it did in 2019 because in 2019, remember , 2019 because in 2019, remember, i 2019 because in 2019, remember, l leave— 2019 because in 2019, remember, l leave seme— 2019 because in 2019, remember, i have some sympathy, michel, lee— i have some sympathy, michel, le ll— i have some sympathy, michel, because in 2019— i have some sympathy, michel, because in 2019 we had boris lelleel— because in 2019 we had boris lelneel eeyllg— because in 2019 we had boris johnson saying he's going to get llexll— johnson saying he's going to get llexll lone.— johnson saying he's going to get brexit done. he's— johnson saying he's going to get brexit done. he's going to lellvel— brexit done. he's going to deliver conservative values, low lexellel— deliver conservative values, low lexellel .— deliver conservative values, low taxation , control— deliver conservative values, low taxation , control immigration, taxation, control immigration, lake— taxation, control immigration, lake eealel— taxation, control immigration, take control of— taxation, control immigration, take control of our borders, all ma— take control of our borders, all that lee— take control of our borders, all that llll ef— take control of our borders, all that kind of thing. none of that aelaally— that kind of thing. none of that

actually happened . but this time actually happened. but this time leane— actually happened. but this time round .— actually happened. but this time round , we cannot— actually happened. but this time round , we cannot reward failure round, we cannot reward failure lllll— round, we cannot reward failure with incumbency_ round, we cannot reward failure with incumbency .— round, we cannot reward failure with incumbency . the with incumbency. the conservative- with incumbency. the conservative party has to learn a lesson. ll— conservative party has to learn a lesson. it won't— conservative party has to learn a lesson. it won't be with boris johnson— a lesson. it won't be with boris lelleel ea— a lesson. it won't be with boris johnson on our— a lesson. it won't be with boris johnson on our side, and i don't lllll— johnson on our side, and i don't lllll ll— johnson on our side, and i don't lllll ll lllll— johnson on our side, and i don't think it will be— johnson on our side, and i don't think it will be with any other conservative _ think it will be with any other conservative mps_ think it will be with any other conservative mps joining us elllel— conservative mps joining us either, because— conservative mps joining us either, because i think they're all either, because i think they're all law— either, because i think they're all party political animals that put all party political animals that lll le— all party political animals that put the conservative party lelele— put the conservative party lelele le— put the conservative party before the national interest . before the national interest. vea— before the national interest. you 5,6.— before the national interest. you l— before the national interest. you see, i think— before the national interest. you see, i think so- before the national interest. you see, i think so many people do that. and i blame one of the reasons for that have been this five year fixed term act, because what happens is people get into parliament and then what so desperate to what they become so desperate to do themselves re—elected. do is get themselves re—elected. and five year window. and the next five year window. and the next five year window. and becomes that and then it becomes about that as opposed actually changing as opposed to actually changing the towns the countries or the towns and cities for good. want to stick cities for good. i want to stick with a political theme the with a political theme after the break, have you seen break, because have you seen what went on over in scotland? and sturgeon was arrested ? did and sturgeon was arrested? did you that coming? did it you see that coming? did it shock you when it popped up on your alert? yes, she your little news alert? yes, she was indeed release it was indeed arrested. release it without some saying that without charge. some saying that she should have been suspended from the what is left of from the party. what is left of the ? are they still

the snp? are they still a credible party or not? see you

radio. hello radio. - . hello there, laala. — i hello there, i'm radio. hello there, i'm michelle - hello there, i'm michelle lewlelly— . hello there, i'm michelle dewberry keeping— hello there, i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company llgll— dewberry keeping you company lem—mo- dewberry keeping you company right 7:00 tonight. right through till 7:00 tonight. ceo— right through till 7:00 tonight. clo-laepeaw- right through till 7:00 tonight. ceo property group and ceo of first property group and farmer— ceo of first property group and former brexit— ceo of first property group and former brexit party ben former brexit party mep ben lalll— former brexit party mep ben lalll keepe— former brexit party mep ben habib keeps company, as does habib keeps me company, as does lelllleal— habib keeps me company, as does political—emma- political consultant emma lamell— political consultant emma burnell. lauren says i am a staunch— burnell. lauren says i am a staunch conservative voter , but staunch conservative voter, but at le— staunch conservative voter, but at the next— staunch conservative voter, but at the next general election, my vete— at the next general election, my vote wlll— at the next general election, my vote will definitely be going to lelmel— vote will definitely be going to leelml .— vote will definitely be going to leelml . um,— vote will definitely be going to reform . um, you— vote will definitely be going to reform . um, you say you will not reform. um, you say you will not ane— reform. um, you say you will not and lea— reform. um, you say you will not me yeu amel— reform. um, you say you will not and you cannot vote— reform. um, you say you will not and you cannot vote for a party llal— and you cannot vote for a party mm a— and you cannot vote for a party that a blatantly— and you cannot vote for a party that a blatantly ousted a democratic— that a blatantly ousted a democratic elected prime llmlelel— democratic elected prime minister you— democratic elected prime minister you say basically you lllll— minister you say basically you lllll lel— minister you say basically you will not ever— minister you say basically you will not ever forgive them. salal— will not ever forgive them. salal says— will not ever forgive them. sarah says boris and farage and emer— sarah says boris and farage and ellel big— sarah says boris and farage and other big names— sarah says boris and farage and other big names would be a gem,— other big names would be a area, area— other big names would be a great, great team. graham, he aske— great, great team. graham, he asks whether— great, great team. graham, he asks whether or— great, great team. graham, he asks whether or not that single party— asks whether or not that single lame eeale— asks whether or not that single party could accommodate the two eeee— party could accommodate the two eeee el— party could accommodate the two eaee el lemeen— party could accommodate the two egos of johnson an— party could accommodate the two egos of johnson an and nigel farage-— egos of johnson an and nigel larage. lllal— egos of johnson an and nigel farage. what do— egos of johnson an and nigel farage. what do you make of llale— farage. what do you make of llale eme— farage. what do you make of that? one? yes— farage. what do you make of that? one? yes david would say,

lleaee— that? one? yes david would say, lleaee, em— that? one? yes david would say, lleaee, ll— that? one? yes david would say, please, can it be— that? one? yes david would say, please, can it be nigel and ben? i please, can it be nigel and ben? l la— please, can it be nigel and ben? l lll leve— please, can it be nigel and ben? i did love boris,— please, can it be nigel and ben? i did love boris, but— please, can it be nigel and ben? i did love boris, but you say aeam— i did love boris, but you say agam aleal— i did love boris, but you say again about the— i did love boris, but you say again about the two egos. you lllll— again about the two egos. you mm mm— again about the two egos. you think that that— again about the two egos. you think that that would cause elaelee— think that that would cause clashes and— think that that would cause clashes and distractions. as llallm— clashes and distractions. as llallm eave— clashes and distractions. as llallm eaye, l— clashes and distractions. as martin says, i just want ben to llle— martin says, i just want ben to run this entire— martin says, i just want ben to run this entire country. he says he run this entire country. he says le weall— run this entire country. he says he would campaign for you if you all — he would campaign for you if you all they— he would campaign for you if you ele. mey len-l— he would campaign for you if you did. they don't know what your ego— did. they don't know what your ege wa— did. they don't know what your ege llle— did. they don't know what your ego was like before the show, bene— ego was like before the show, lem lll— ego was like before the show, lem lal yea— ego was like before the show, ben, but you must be up there now-they- ben, but you must be up there -lley leve- ben, but you must be up there now. they love ben, now. they love they love ben, lllll— now. they love they love ben, lllly lem— now. they love they love ben, lllly lem ane— now. they love they love ben, dirty ben, and they're often they— dirty ben, and they're often llley gel— dirty ben, and they're often llley gel m— dirty ben, and they're often they get in touch. they want a ealemlal— they get in touch. they want a calendar for— they get in touch. they want a calendar for a— they get in touch. they want a calendar for a 2024. ben calemlal— calendar for a 2024. ben calendar make- calendar for a 2024. ben calendar make money out of that. lee— calendar make money out of that. lee llaelme— calendar make money out of that. lee llaelme .— calendar make money out of that. he's blushing . ladies gents he's blushing. ladies and gents , nell— he's blushing. ladies and gents , nell savse— he's blushing. ladies and gents , neil says, michelle, why are you— , neil says, michelle, why are yeu eaymg— , neil says, michelle, why are you saying happy— , neil says, michelle, why are you saying happy belated llllllay— you saying happy belated llllllay-le- you saying happy belated birthday he hasn't birthday to ben? he hasn't changea— birthday to ben? he hasn't changed me— birthday to ben? he hasn't changed his birthday to a later lale— changed his birthday to a later lale|lllal— changed his birthday to a later date what should be saying date. what you should be saying is date. what you should be saying le lelalel— date. what you should be saying is belated-wishes- date. what you should be saying is belated-wishes .- date. what you should be saying is belated wishes . oh, is belated birthday wishes. oh, nell— is belated birthday wishes. oh, nell nell— is belated birthday wishes. oh, neil. neil neil.— is belated birthday wishes. oh, neil. neil neil. language eveveel— neil. neil neil. language evolves . that's what i'm neil. neil neil. language evolves. that's what i'm going to evolves. that's what i'm going le sax-— evolves. that's what i'm going le eay. l— evolves. that's what i'm going le eay. l len-l— evolves. that's what i'm going to say. i don't like— evolves. that's what i'm going to say. i don't like it, aelaalle— to say. i don't like it, actually, when it evolves in a llleellel— actually, when it evolves in a direction that— actually, when it evolves in a direction that i— actually, when it evolves in a direction that i don't like. but when— direction that i don't like. but when ll— direction that i don't like. but when it evolves— direction that i don't like. but when it evolves in a direction llal— when it evolves in a direction mm l— when it evolves in a direction mm l le— when it evolves in a direction that i do like,— when it evolves in a direction that i do like, emma says, i can change— that i do like, emma says, i can change ll.— that i do like, emma says, i can change ll. se— that i do like, emma says, i can change it. so there— that i do like, emma says, i can change it. so there you go. aleelalely— change it. so there you go. absolutely we— change it. so there you go. absolutely we changed it anyway. seellaml— scotland have you followed lllal-e— scotland have you followed lllal-e leen— scotland have you followed what's been -on - scotland have you followed what's been on there? what's been going on there? nleela—ll- what's been going on there?. nleela—ll leeeee what's been going on there?- nicola—it popped up nicola sturgeon and it popped up on nicola sturgeon and it popped up ele-mem— nicola sturgeon and it popped up el-llele. se— nicola sturgeon and it popped up

el-llele. se ll— nicola sturgeon and it popped up on-phone. so it did.- nicola sturgeon and it popped up on phone. so it did. and it on my phone. so it did. and it made— on my phone. so it did. and it made me— on my phone. so it did. and it made me ee— on my phone. so it did. and it made me go, oh— on my phone. so it did. and it made me go, oh blimey, it elellel— made me go, oh blimey, it elellee my— made me go, oh blimey, it stopped my conversation in its lacke— stopped my conversation in its. lame—yea tracks. what about you? did you see tracks. what about you? did you eeeleemmee— tracks. what about you? did you seelcoming?lyou- tracks. what about you? did you see coming? you think it see it coming? do you think it wae-lllll— see it coming? do you think it wae-lllll-me- see it coming? do you think it was right the wrong was the right move, the wrong mee— was the right move, the wrong l-ll— was the right move, the wrong move? i'll let— was the right move, the wrong move? i'll let you— was the right move, the wrong move? i'll let you ponder that at move? i'll let you ponder that al heme.— move? i'll let you ponder that al leme. lll— move? i'll let you ponder that at home. but the— move? i'll let you ponder that at home. but the conversation i lam— at home. but the conversation i lam-lee— at home. but the conversation i want-here tonight- at home. but the conversation i want here tonight is want to have here tonight is lllal— want to have here tonight is lllal-all— want to have here tonight is what-all-for. want to have here tonight is. what-all-for the what does it all mean for the sam— what does it all mean for the saw me— what does it all mean for the snp? the snp— what does it all mean for the snp? the snp brand party? do you lllll— snp? the snp brand party? do you llleeal— snp? the snp brand party? do you llleeal lme— snp? the snp brand party? do you thinklcan kind of— snp? the snp brand party? do you think can kind of recover think it can kind of recover lem— think it can kind of recover lem a— think it can kind of recover lem a lel— think it can kind of recover from a lot controversy from a lot of this controversy -llell— from a lot of this controversy -llell l— from a lot of this controversy now,-well i you- from a lot of this controversy now, well i you know, the now, ben? well i you know, the sme— now, ben? well i you know, the sme lae— now, ben? well i you know, the sme lae lel— now, ben? well i you know, the snp has not made— now, ben? well i you know, the snp has not made its way in lellllee— snp has not made its way in lellllee ly— snp has not made its way in politics by actually governing well — politics by actually governing well _theyl politics by actually governing. well. _they can't well. we know that they can't govern well. the govern scotland well. the schooling the schooling is not doing well. the health not doing well. health system is not doing well. they've their back and they've turned their back and emma's shake her head emma's going to shake her head about what i'm about to say. but they've come 100% agree with you so they've turned their so far, but they've turned their back north sea you know, back on north sea oil. you know, which a fantastic natural which is a fantastic natural resource off the coast resource just off off the coast of so in terms of of scotland. so in terms of governance, they're terrible. of scotland. so in terms of gov

was at the forefront of that. the creation of that imagery . the creation of that imagery. and i can i can see her now saying tory sleaze, i can't do a scottish accent, but you know tory, i can't, i can't. ben come on. you tory, i can't, i can't. ben come yea can-l— tory, i can't, i can't. ben come on. you can't tell— tory, i can't, i can't. ben come on. you can't tell me- ling it?" . it?" . ben come on. you can't tell me that yea-re— on. you can't tell me that you're imagining it in a seelllel— you're imagining it in a scottish accent. i can just see nleela— scottish accent. i can just see nicola-rattling- scottish accent. i can just see nicola rattling around nicola sturgeon rattling around in nicola sturgeon rattling around m my— nicola sturgeon rattling around m my lead— nicola sturgeon rattling around m my head . — nicola sturgeon rattling around m my head . l— nicola sturgeon rattling around in my head. cr?“ . nicola sturgeon rattling around in my head . tri“ . ti“ . nicola sturgeon rattling around in my head . ti“ . ti“ . r:r:::r in my head. i can't. i can't do it in my head. i can't. i can't do ll . lyreee— in my head. i can't. i can't do ll. lyreeelle— in my head. i can't. i can't do it . kyrees the tories- in my head. ti“ . ti“ . r:r:::r . kyrees the tories sleaze. it. kyrees the tories sleaze. torv— it. kyrees the tories sleaze. rery eleazee— it. kyrees the tories sleaze. tory sleaze? is— it. kyrees the tories sleaze. tory sleaze? is that- it. kyrees the tories sleaze. tory sleaze? is that about right? that sounds don't really get right? that sounds don't really eel mle. — right? that sounds don't really eel mle. l— right? that sounds don't really get into. i mean,— t r;“.7 that sounds don't really get into. i mean, who t lg“.7 that sounds don't really get into. i mean, who am i to get into. i mean, who am ito lall— get into. i mean, who am ito lall aleal— get into. i mean, who am ito talk about accent?- get into. i mean, who am ito talk about accent? i mean, when you— talk about accent? i mean, when yea eeme— talk about accent? i mean, when yeu eeaml llle— talk about accent? i mean, when you sound like me,— talk about accent? i mean, when you sound like me, i just need to you sound like me, i just need le elal— you sound like me, i just need le elal ae— you sound like me, i just need to shut up anyway. go on. but, you— to shut up anyway. go on. but, yea mew.— to shut up anyway. go on. but, yea mew. ee— to shut up anyway. go on. but, you know, so it's— to shut up anyway. go on. but, you know, so it's this whole thing about moral rectitude, wrapping herself in virtuous clothing then she gets clothing, and then she gets arrested . her husband's been arrested. her husband's been arrested. her husband's been arrested. want to arrested. and i don't want to make comment about whether make any comment about whether or not they're guilty on finance because it's ongoing legal because it's an ongoing legal investigation. so if you're elllme— investigation. so if you're sitting-thinking,- sitting there thinking, why ael— sitting there thinking, why- arerr-l—llal aren't you saying this and that are— aren't you saying this and that all-le— aren't you saying this and that and-is because,- aren't you saying this and that and-is because, of. and the other is because, of course, no one's— and the other is because, of course, no one's been found gallly— course, no one's been found gallly el— course, no one's been found guilty of anything. it's an enema— guilty of anything. it's an. ongoing—et ongoing case. et cetera. et le — ongoing case. et cetera. et le lal— ongoing case. et cetera. et cetera. but there- ongoing case. et cetera. et cetera. .“ritrzi; itrzi; ongoing case. et cetera. et cetera. but there are some circumstance can circumstance dots that we can join she resigned as leader join up. she resigned as leader in february 15th of february, saying that she didn't have the

stamina the a few weeks stamina for the job a few weeks later, we had the police going round house covering it round to the house covering it in yeah, digging in tents. and yeah, that digging up i couldn't. that's up the lawn, i couldn't. that's not knows what they were looking for. god and then the whole £600,000 that money's £600,000 claim that that money's gone astray and somehow she or her husband may or may not be implicated in it. and she's dragged in for questioning for seven hours. and this afternoon , yusuf hamza humza yousaf decline to suspend the whip . and decline to suspend the whip. and it wasn't no one was suggesting he kick her out of the party, just suspend her position until investigations are concluded. and he's refused to do it. so this is not a party that believes in virtue . this is this believes in virtue. this is this is a party that will do anything to hide their awful stint in government, champion any minority cause to, you know, to cover up their failures and won't stand by the same yardsticks they set . indeed. and yardsticks they set. indeed. and a lot yardsticks they set. indeed. and a lel el— yardsticks they set. indeed. and a lel er leelle— yardsticks they set. indeed. and a lot of people will— yardsticks they set. indeed. and a lot of people will say- :t indeed. and a lot of people will say humza is a lot of people will say humza le laeleally— a lot of people will say humza is basically the— a lot of people will say humza is basically the continuity eamlllale. — is basically the continuity candidate. that's what a lot of

leelle— candidate. that's what a lot of leelle wee— candidate. that's what a lot of people were saying about him at the people were saying about him at me llme— people were saying about him at me llme. lal— people were saying about him at the time. but do— people were saying about him at the time. but do you think this lae— the time. but do you think this lae leen— the time. but do you think this lae leerr all— the time. but do you think this has been all a— the time. but do you think this has been all a bit— the time. but do you think this has been all a bit of a blur to me— has been all a bit of a blur to me swr-e— has been all a bit of a blur to the snp's brand— has been all a bit of a blur to the snp's brand and it's unrecoverable - the snp's brand and it's unrecoverable or not? r:rt:r“ . unrecoverable or not? i don't mew— unrecoverable or not? i don't know unrecoverable because know about unrecoverable because was ultimately the question was the ultimately the question that divides scotland is independence or not at the moment that's lagging in the polls and the snp are doing worse than they've done for over ten years. but it is still a very strong constituent . ac and very strong constituent. ac and that constituency tends to vote for the snp, whatever the snp's failures on, as ben said , a failures on, as ben said, a multitude of other issues are what it is doing is making it very, very hard for them to advance at all at the next election and not go quite considerably backwards. humza yousaf is proving to be an incredibly weak leader because incredibly weak leader because in terms of whether or not he should suspend ed nicola sturgeon, there is precedent here. nicola sturgeon, when she was leader , suspended other was leader, suspended other scottish msps she did, who were

under suspicion of other things . so nicola, i think natalie mcgarry was one. for example . so mcgarry was one. for example. so there is precedent that he could follow to say this is what happensin follow to say this is what happens in our party, whoever you are. and we absolutely believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty. but while you are under these circumstances, it is better that you do not have the snp whip, that he hasn't even got the strength to take that stance within his own party and within scotland is really just proves once again that he really is a very poor leader. yeah, i've got to very poor leader. yeah, i've got le eay— very poor leader. yeah, i've got le eay :— very poor leader. yeah, i've got le eay , yea— very poor leader. yeah, i've got le eay , yea mew:— very poor leader. yeah, i've got to say , you know, if— very poor leader. yeah, i've got to say , you know, if you- rtg : yeah, i've got to say , you know, if you think to say, you know, if you think aleal— to say, you know, if you think aleal lllme— to say, you know, if you think about films and— to say, you know, if you think about films and scripts and all the about films and scripts and all me eel— about films and scripts and all me reel el— about films and scripts and all the rest of it— about films and scripts and all the rest of it and— about films and scripts and all the rest of it and you were to sit the rest of it and you were to ell lewrr — the rest of it and you were to ell lewrr arre— the rest of it and you were to sit down and chart the kind of the sit down and chart the kind of me realmal— sit down and chart the kind of the roadmap of— sit down and chart the kind of the roadmap of what has gone on in the roadmap of what has gone on m ll— the roadmap of what has gone on m lll lellllee— the roadmap of what has gone on in uk politics of— the roadmap of what has gone on in uk politics of this last kind of in uk politics of this last kind el lew— in uk politics of this last kind el lew yeare — in uk politics of this last kind of few years. you'd be hard ereeeee.— of few years. you'd be hard ereeeee. l— of few years. you'd be hard pressed, i think,- of few years. you'd be hard pressed, i think, to actually make— pressed, i think, to actually make ae— pressed, i think, to actually make are wlll— pressed, i think, to actually make up with fiction . you'd be make up with fiction. you'd be lare— make up with fiction. you'd be hard ereeeee— make up with fiction. you'd be hard pressed to— make up with fiction. you'd be hard pressed to make up some of the hard pressed to make up some of me aleelale— hard pressed to make up some of the absolute ridiculousness that has the absolute ridiculousness that lae gene— the absolute ridiculousness that lae eele em— the absolute ridiculousness that has gone on. and— the absolute ridiculousness that has gone on. and of course it is lel— has gone on. and of course it is lel yel— has gone on. and of course it is lel yel — has gone on. and of course it is not yet over. are _ has gone on. and of course it is not yet over. are you in eeellaml— not yet over. are you in scotland ?_ not yet over. are you in- scotland ?-watching this

scotland? are you watching this lem— scotland? are you watching this from scotland _ scotland? are you watching this from scotland what do you make from scotland? what do you make to from scotland? what do you make le ll— from scotland? what do you make le ll alle— from scotland? what do you make le ll alle eel— from scotland? what do you make to it all? get-touch— from scotland? what do you make to it all? get touch and let to it all? get in touch and let me— to it all? get in touch and let me mew— to it all? get in touch and let me mew year— to it all? get in touch and let me know your thoughts. as phil eaye— me know your thoughts. as phil eaye.|leel— me know your thoughts. as phil eaye|leel ee— me know your thoughts. as phil says,ifeel so sorry— me know your thoughts. as phil says, feel so sorry for nicola says, i feel so sorry for nicola slareeem— says, i feel so sorry for nicola sturgeon-wanted- says, i feel so sorry for nicola sturgeon. wanted to be the sturgeon. she's wanted to be the eaeerr— sturgeon. she's wanted to be the eaeerr el— sturgeon. she's wanted to be the queen of scotland— sturgeon. she's wanted to be the queen of scotland since she was 16. queen of scotland since she was re. l— queen of scotland since she was re. l mean— queen of scotland since she was re. l le— queen of scotland since she was 16. i mean, is that— queen of scotland since she was 16. i mean, is that a— queen of scotland since she was 16. i mean, is that a view enaree— 16. i mean, is that a view enaree ly— 16. i mean, is that a view shared by many 16. i mean, is that a view. shared by many-lots 16. i mean, is that a view- shared by many-lots of shared by many of you? lots of you— shared by many of you? lots of yea aelllne— shared by many of you? lots of you getting-touch— shared by many of you? lots of you getting touch saying you getting in touch saying elall— you getting in touch saying elall-l— you getting in touch saying stuff-i can't- you getting in touch saying stuff i can't repeat ? four stuff that i can't repeat? four fs stuff that i can't repeat? four re well— stuff that i can't repeat? four re well .— stuff that i can't repeat? four re well . el— stuff that i can't repeat? four fs well , of course it's stuff that i can't repeat? four fs well, of course it's tea time ane— fs well, of course it's tea time and er— fs well, of course it's tea time and er eaee— fs well, of course it's tea time and of course it's— fs well, of course it's tea time and of course it's an ongoing eean— and of course it's an ongoing court case as well. let me know year— court case as well. let me know year lleaalle— court case as well. let me know your thoughts. keep them coming in your thoughts. keep them coming ln ln— your thoughts. keep them coming ln ln-analee.— your thoughts. keep them coming in in minutes, though. what in in two minutes, though. what i in in two minutes, though. what l-le— in in two minutes, though. what l-le law— in in two minutes, though. what l-le lall le— in in two minutes, though. what i-to talk to-about- in in two minutes, though. what i to talk to about is i want to talk to you about is me— i want to talk to you about is the ridiculousness the absolute ridiculousness going— the absolute ridiculousness going en— the absolute ridiculousness going en ln— the absolute ridiculousness going on in the— the absolute ridiculousness going on in the channel. it has not going on in the channel. it has nel reamed.— going on in the channel. it has nel laaeee. ll— going on in the channel. it has not paused, it has— going on in the channel. it has not paused, it has not stopped lllenl— not paused, it has not stopped lllenl sanak— not paused, it has not stopped rishi sunak has— not paused, it has not stopped rishi sunak has not fixed it. it is rishi sunak has not fixed it. it le ellll— rishi sunak has not fixed it. it is still ongoing— rishi sunak has not fixed it. it is still ongoing volumes that wlll— is still ongoing volumes that wlll make— is still ongoing volumes that will make your— is still ongoing volumes that will make your eyes water is it llme— will make your eyes water is it llme le— will make your eyes water is it time to declare— will make your eyes water is it time to declare a— will make your eyes water is it time to declare a national emergency— time to declare a national emergency when it comes to lee— emergency when it comes to these? burke— emergency when it comes to these? burke crossings? you tell me ane— these? burke crossings? you tell me and lll— these? burke crossings? you tell me and i'll see— these? burke crossings? you tell me and i'll see you— these? burke crossings? you tell me and i'll see you .

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and if you len-l .— do you remember? and if you len-l . yae— do you remember? and if you don't , you've got— do you remember? and if you don't , you've got a very short don't, you've got a very short memery— don't, you've got a very short memory because— don't, you've got a very short memory because i only played at the memory because i only played at me elarl— memory because i only played at me elarl el— memory because i only played at me elarl el my— memory because i only played at the start of my programme half an-aee.— the start of my programme half an-aee. lllenl— the start of my programme half an ago. rishi sunak was an hour ago. rishi sunak he was eaylne— an hour ago. rishi sunak he was eaylne-elner— an hour ago. rishi sunak he was eaylng-elner lay.— an hour ago. rishi sunak he was saying other day, wasn't he, saying the other day, wasn't he, lnal— saying the other day, wasn't he, lnal-nle— saying the other day, wasn't he, lnal-nle-le- that he thinks his plan to laeleally— that he thinks his plan to basically stop— that he thinks his plan to basically stop the channel ereeelnee— basically stop the channel crossings working. it's crossings is working. it's elleellwe— crossings is working. it's effective when he it. at the effective when he did it. at the llme.— effective when he did it. at the llme. l— effective when he did it. at the llme. l lll— effective when he did it. at the llme. l lll lry— effective when he did it. at the time, i did try and— effective when he did it. at the time, i did try and point it out lnal— time, i did try and point it out me ene— time, i did try and point it out me el— time, i did try and point it out that one of the— time, i did try and point it out that one of the reasons was leeaaee— that one of the reasons was leeaaee ll— that one of the reasons was because it had— that one of the reasons was because it had been incredibly wlnly— because it had been incredibly wlnly-nel— because it had been incredibly windy-not really- because it had been incredibly windy not really all that windy and not really all that eare— windy and not really all that ealelmale— windy and not really all that safe make crossing . safe to make that crossing. notwithstanding that, took notwithstanding that, he took a lot notwithstanding that, he took a lel-ler— notwithstanding that, he took a lot-forianother- lot of credit for it. another llme— lot of credit for it. another thing happened lot of credit for it. another- thing-happened.well, thing that's happened as well, you thing that's happened as well, yea-lamlllar- thing that's happened as well, you _familiar with- thing that's happened as well, you familiar with the you might be familiar with the lael— you might be familiar with the lael-llel— you might be familiar with the fact-tick tock_ you might be familiar with the fact-tick tock is- you might be familiar with the fact tick tock is some kind fact that tick tock is some kind of fact that tick tock is some kind el were— fact that tick tock is some kind of weird travel— fact that tick tock is some kind of weird travel brochure for lneee— of weird travel brochure for these crossings.— of weird travel brochure for these crossings. i don't know if yae— these crossings. i don't know if yea-we-leelel— these crossings. i don't know if you've-lookedlit,- these crossings. i don't know if you've looked it, but it you've ever looked at it, but it is, you've ever looked at it, but it le. ealle— you've ever looked at it, but it is, quite frankly,— you've ever looked at it, but it is, quite frankly, disgraceful. well— is, quite frankly, disgraceful. well lney— is, quite frankly, disgraceful. well, they actually changed one of well, they actually changed one el-lellelee.— well, they actually changed one of - policies, not _ well, they actually changed one of policies, not that long of their policies, not that long ago— of their policies, not that long age-wnlen— of their policies, not that long ago which basically ago as well, which basically elellel— ago as well, which basicallyi stopped—content stopped some of this content being— stopped some of this content lelne-llle- stopped some of this content being-like that. i stopped some of this content being like that. so being displayed like that. so i weale— being displayed like that. so i weall eay— being displayed like that. so i would say that— being displayed like that. so i would say that that had an lmeael— would say that that had an impact-well. _ impact as well. but notwithstanding any of that, me— notwithstanding any of that, this weekend— notwithstanding any of that, this weekend ,_ notwithstanding any of that, this weekend , of course, the sun this weekend, of course, the sun eal—

this weekend, of course, the sun eal ane— this weekend, of course, the sun was out and over— this weekend, of course, the sun was out and over 600 people made lnal— was out and over 600 people made me ereeeml — was out and over 600 people made that crossing. that— was out and over 600 people made that crossing. that is— was out and over 600 people made that crossing. that is just on saneay. — that crossing. that is just on saneay. lnal— that crossing. that is just on sunday. that is— that crossing. that is just on sunday. that is the highest namler— sunday. that is the highest number on a— sunday. that is the highest number on a single day so far we— number on a single day so far he year— number on a single day so far he year .— number on a single day so far he year. new.— number on a single day so far this year. now, ben habib, we elele— this year. now, ben habib, we elele aleal— this year. now, ben habib, we spoke about this— this year. now, ben habib, we spoke about this a lot on this enew— spoke about this a lot on this enew .— spoke about this a lot on this enew . lne— spoke about this a lot on this show . the whole— spoke about this a lot on this show . the whole thing is show. the whole thing is a llegraee— show. the whole thing is a llegraee .— show. the whole thing is a disgrace . it's— show. the whole thing is a disgrace . it's out of control . disgrace. it's out of control. vea— disgrace. it's out of control. vea lnew. — disgrace. it's out of control. you know, this— disgrace. it's out of control. you know, this rwanda thing that is you know, this rwanda thing that le ee— you know, this rwanda thing that le ee ele— you know, this rwanda thing that le ee ele ln— you know, this rwanda thing that le ee ele ln lne— you know, this rwanda thing that is so pie in the sky,— you know, this rwanda thing that is so pie in the sky, i'm going to is so pie in the sky, i'm going le le— is so pie in the sky, i'm going le le ll.— is so pie in the sky, i'm going le le ll. lney— is so pie in the sky, i'm going to do it. they would have done it to do it. they would have done ll aleelalely— to do it. they would have done ll aleelalely .— to do it. they would have done it absolutely . so— to do it. they would have done it absolutely . solit- to do it. they would have done it absolutely . so it time now it absolutely. so is it time now to it absolutely. so is it time now le leelare— it absolutely. so is it time now le leelare ln— it absolutely. so is it time now to declare in some— it absolutely. so is it time now to declare in some kind of way elmllar— to declare in some kind of way elmllar le— to declare in some kind of way similar to what— to declare in some kind of way similar to what we— to declare in some kind of way similar to what we did with com.— similar to what we did with. covid,_emergence ? similar to what we did with- covid,_emergence ? ac covid, a national emergence? ac lllll. — covid, a national emergence? ac lllanl. enough— covid, a national emergence? ac lllanl. lneagn le— covid, a national emergence? ac right. enough is enough . have right. enough is enough. have some-emergency- some robust emergency legislation— some robust emergency legislation that allows us to llnl— legislation that allows us to llnl el— legislation that allows us to kind of whether— legislation that allows us to kind of whether it's turning lack— kind of whether it's turning lael lneee— kind of whether it's turning back these boats, putting people le— back these boats, putting people over to rwanda,— back these boats, putting people over to rwanda, etcetera, to try anl— over to rwanda, etcetera, to try anl elel— over to rwanda, etcetera, to try anl elel ll.— over to rwanda, etcetera, to try anl elel ll. le— over to rwanda, etcetera, to try and stop it. is that— over to rwanda, etcetera, to try and stop it. is that what we neele— and stop it. is that what we neele well— and stop it. is that what we need? well actually, you know, lanny— need? well actually, you know, lanny eneagl— need? well actually, you know, funny enough, it's— need? well actually, you know, funny enough, it's much simpler lnan— funny enough, it's much simpler mm mm — funny enough, it's much simpler mm mm l— funny enough, it's much simpler than that. t.rtrt“ funny enough, it's much simpler than that. t irg ”cit; than that. i completely agree with you. we need to take a much more robust position with it. no we solutions. go we like simple solutions. go ahead.the we like simple solutions. go ahead. the solution has- . go ahead. the solution has always leen— ahead. the solution has always leen lnere. — ahead. the solution has always been there. it's— ahead. the solution has always been there. . : .«r been there. it's readily available even to those who always use international law or try to use international law to trump domestic british law. what

is it? and the solution is set out in the un convention of the law of the seas , which i've law of the seas, which i've asked your colleagues to put up so people can actually see, see and validate what i'm about to say. get your readings , specs say. get your readings, specs on. this is article 33 from john cleese as it's called, un convention of the law of the sea international law, which dictates what can and can't take place in international waters, including at the point of entry of your territorial waters , of your territorial waters, which is before they get the benefit of being protected by british law. you don't benefit from british law if you're on british territorial waters. but but the united kingdom has the right to enforce uncross laws such as they are in its territorial waters and what article three clearly says which ihope article three clearly says which i hope viewers have already read , is that if migrants are trying to enter your country illegally , i.e. you have the right to prevent them from doing so . so prevent them from doing so. so we have all the international then ben, because they don't

have the political will to do it because it would involve border force actually doing what it suggests on the tin, which is acting as a force, refusing these boats to pass , requiring these boats to pass, requiring them to turn round and make the journey back to france where they came from. we don't have they came from. we don't have the political will to take that risk. so he says that we don't nave— risk. so he says that we don't nave lne— risk. so he says that we don't have the political— t so he says that we don't have the political will to take the have the political will to take me nel. — have the political will to take me nel. l— have the political will to take the risk. i would— have the political will to take the risk. i would argue that one of the risk. i would argue that one el lne— the risk. i would argue that one el lne lnlnle— the risk. i would argue that one of the things that— the risk. i would argue that one of the things that will undo lnle— of the things that will undo lnle lery— of the things that will undo lnle rery lany— of the things that will undo this tory party is this situation.— this tory party is this situation. if- this tory party is this situation. if it's still ongoing to situation. if it's still ongoing le lnle— situation. if it's still ongoing to this extent,— situation. if it's still ongoing to this extent, 600 odd, 606, i lnlnl— to this extent, 600 odd, 606, i lnlnl ll— to this extent, 600 odd, 606, i lnlnl ll wae— to this extent, 600 odd, 606, i think it was thousand net mllrallen— think it was thousand net migration added to the lelalallen— migration added to the population and when you see this weaal— population and when you see this wleaal llnl— population and when you see this visual kind of— population and when you see this visual kind of depiction of lne— visual kind of depiction of me. lneee— visual kind of depiction of this, these people just getting on this, these people just getting en lneee— this, these people just getting on these boats— this, these people just getting on these boats and in their come anl— on these boats and in their come anl yea— on these boats and in their come anl yea eay— on these boats and in their come and you say about— on these boats and in their come and you say about border force, we-ll— and you say about border force, we-ll all— and you say about border force, we-ll all le— and you say about border force, we'll all be familiar with that eaee-elner— we'll all be familiar with that case .other-thel case the other day when the cnannel— case the other day when the channel there _ case the other day when the channel there was trying to rescue them— channel there was trying to rescue them with the french leale— rescue them with the french leale anl— rescue them with the french boats and authorities and the leelle— boats and authorities and the leelle en— boats and authorities and the leelle en lne— boats and authorities and the people on the boats said, no, mane..— people on the boats said, no, no, no, no, we want to be no, no, no, no, we want to be reeeael— no, no, no, no, we want to be reeeael ly— no, no, no, no, we want to be reeeael ly lne— no, no, no, no, we want to be

rescued by the english bird. llleelalely. — rescued by the english bird. absolutely. i— rescued by the english bird. absolutely. i mean, really? wean.— absolutely. i mean, really? wean. leek.— absolutely. i mean, really? yeah. look, nobody- absolutely. i mean, really? yeah. look, nobody wants to see this happening . those who are this happening. those who are liberal about immigration like myself don't want to see it because it's dangerous for those people who are vulnerable, those like yourself , who have more like yourself, who have more conservative views on immigration don't to see immigration, don't want to see it different reasons. but i it for different reasons. but i think both agree that think we can both agree that this a system that is this is not a system that is working where would and it's working where i would and it's quite bizarre being the more statist of the three of us pushed back on is the idea of invoking some sort of emergency laws , because i genuinely think laws, because i genuinely think that you take that out of the box in except national circumstances and you don't think this is an exceptional circumstance. i really don't. i circumstance. ireally don't. i really, really don't. i think it's a political circumstance. i think it's a thing that people are deeply concerned about. but i think if you even in terms of what people are concerned about politically , we're not invoking politically, we're not invoking emergency laws to let me get this straight in the nhs, 1000 people did this crossing

yesterday. we people did this crossing yesterday . we spend i mean, yesterday. we spend i mean, i leal— yesterday. we spend i mean, i lreal le— yesterday. we spend i mean, i dread to even— yesterday. we spend i mean, i dread to even think— : we spend i mean, i dread to even think what it is l— dread to even think what it is l lnlnl— dread to even think what it is now. i think on— dread to even think what it is now. i think on the last estimates— now. i think on the last estimates it— now. i think on the last estimates it was about £6 mllllen— estimates it was about £6 mllllen a— estimates it was about £6 million a day.— estimates it was about £6 million a day. ladies and lenllemen.— million a day. ladies and gentlemen, you don't think mere-e— gentlemen, you don't think lnere-e a— gentlemen, you don't think there's a great— gentlemen, you don't think there's a great deal of difference— there's a great deal of difference between a political lallare— difference between a political lallare anl— difference between a political failure and a— difference between a political failure and a national emergeneye— failure and a national emergency? ' failure and a national— emergency? a national emergency laws are really controversial people. really? you know, they strip us of our rights . and if strip us of our rights. and if you invoke that for this , just you invoke that for this, just think about what a government you agreed with. less could invoke it on other things . i invoke it on other things. i just really would caution anyone, from the fact that anyone, even from the fact that i'm quite a status person from from opening that pandora's box because you don't know what's going to come out like lockdowns , for example. well, i mean, we— , for example. well, i mean, he le— , for example. well, i mean, he le lne— , for example. well, i mean, this is the thing.— , for example. well, i mean, this is the thing. - , for example. well, i mean, this is the thing. you- rt;;a

generation should mean in a generation should mean once in a while. but i think the point i'm trying to make is we don't need any new domestic laws. so let's explore then, any new domestic laws. so let's explore .then, because - explore this then, because i amel— explore this then, because i amel lel— explore this then, because i eannel lel my— explore this then, because i cannot get my head around. what yea-re— cannot get my head around. what yeare—le— cannot get my head around. what yeare—le lnal- cannot get my head around. what you're—is that you're. you're telling me is that you're lanllnl— you're telling me is that you're enema-ee- you're telling me is that you're bringing 33. you've bringing up article 33. you've all bringing up article 33. you've all—el— bringing up article 33. you've all—er ll.- bringing up article 33. you've all—of it. i'll- bringing up article 33. you've all—of it. i'll test| all had a read of it. i'll test you— all had a read of it. i'll test yea aleal— all had a read of it. i'll test yea aleal ll— all had a read of it. i'll test you about itlthe- all had a read of it. i'll test you about it the end. you're you about it at the end. you're lelllnl— you about it at the end. you're lelllnl me— you about it at the end. you're telling me that— you about it at the end. you're telling me that you that telling me that you think that me— telling me that you think that this government— telling me that you think that this government the this government lacked the lelllleal— this government lacked the lelllleal-l- this government lacked the political i cannot get political will and i cannot get my leal— political will and i cannot get my head around— political will and i cannot get my head around because my head around this because earely—sanakl my head around this becausei surely—sunak or surely if you're rishi sunak or —wnee any.- surely if you're rishi sunak or , whoever any, any surely if you're rishi sunak or. ,-whoever any, any of , you know, whoever any, any of yea—al- , you know, whoever any, any of yea—al lnle- , you know, whoever any, any of yea—al lnle anli you, you must look at this and you— you, you must look at this and yea mael— you, you must look at this and yea mael mew— you, you must look at this and you must know these red you must know that these red wall— you must know that these red wall-lney— you must know that these red wall _they were - you must know that these red wall they were borrowed wall seats, they were borrowed anl— wall seats, they were borrowed anl lney— wall seats, they were borrowed anl lney all— wall seats, they were borrowed and they all say,— wall seats, they were borrowed and they all say, we, you know, we lem— and they all say, we, you know, we lenl yea— and they all say, we, you know, we lent you our— and they all say, we, you know, we lent you our vote at 2019 to get— we lent you our vote at 2019 to lel lack— we lent you our vote at 2019 to get back control— we lent you our vote at 2019 to get back control of— we lent you our vote at 2019 to get back control of our borders. eal— get back control of our borders. lal wny— get back control of our borders. nae wny weall— get back control of our borders. but why would you _ get back control of our borders. but why would you not- get back control of our borders. but why would you not sit- get back control of our borders. but why would you not sit there then think to yourself, if then and think to yourself, if this is okay, if you don't want to it a national emergency, to call it a national emergency, a is even you a crisis, this is even if you just want it a political just want to call it a political one. what is? because the conservative party is no longer conservative. the conservative party believe in party doesn't believe in controlling the controlling our borders. the other that the prime other policy that the prime surely, though that is conservative terms of conservative values in terms of protecting your borders, controlling absolutely its

conservative values, but they're not possessed by the conservative party. let me give you examples. as we you two other examples. as we were we'd get an were told that we'd get an australian point system australian style point system that legal and all that would control legal and all about legal migration . now we about legal migration. now we got the point based system, but they set the bar low that they set the bar so low that we've had record numbers of legal migration in the last two years and then the other fantastic example of it, and i'm sorry to go back to my bugbear, but it is a really good example is northern ireland. we have given up on northern ireland. we refuse to enforce the border between northern ireland and the republic, which is an international border recognised internationally, just because the republican south said that violence would resume if there were customs check customs checks, which is entire hinckley are legitimate, right? so what we've done is partition the united kingdom. we've got no border control. the conservative party doesn't believe in the united kingdom as a sovereign, independent state. that's the only conclusion you can draw.

they're prepared to let anyone into the country. you don't need to be checked. you don't need to be you know, northern ireland can be handed over to the european union. this party is devoid of conservative values and that is the problem with the conservative and unionist party. do you disagree with him? are you— do you disagree with him? are yea a— do you disagree with him? are yea a rery— do you disagree with him? are you a tory voter?— do you disagree with him? are you a tory voter? did you vote lerye— you a tory voter? did you vote rerye weall— you a tory voter? did you vote rerye weall yea— you a tory voter? did you vote tory? would you sit there and say— tory? would you sit there and eay yea— tory? would you sit there and eay yea are— tory? would you sit there and eay yea a— tory? would you sit there and say you are a lifelong conservative? and when you llelen — conservative? and when you llelen-len— conservative? and when you listen . ben and - conservative? and when you listen ben and he's saying listen to ben and he's saying lnal— listen to ben and he's saying lnal-wnal- listen to ben and he's saying that-what this- listen to ben and he's saying that what this party that that's not what this party is, that that's not what this party le-llealree— that that's not what this party is,-disagree with- that that's not what this party is, disagree with him? is, do you disagree with him? l-m— is, do you disagree with him? i'm _fascinated- i'm absolutely fascinated to near— i'm absolutely fascinated to near-yea. — i'm absolutely fascinated to near-yea. ll— i'm absolutely fascinated to hear-you. if you- i'm absolutely fascinated to hear you. if you do, i'm hear from you. if you do, i'm lnellnel— hear from you. if you do, i'm lnellnel le— hear from you. if you do, i'm inclined to _with- hear from you. if you do, i'm inclined to with you on inclined to agree with you on lee— inclined to agree with you on lele-lneaen. - inclined to agree with you on lots though. ben, do lots of that, though. ben, do you— lots of that, though. ben, do yea lllnl— lots of that, though. ben, do you think, though, the you think, though, that the lerlee— you think, though, that the lerlee ean— you think, though, that the tories can-kind- you think, though, that the tories can kind of regain you think, though, that the toriekindi kind of regain you think, though, that the toriekind of kind of regain you think, though, that the torie kind of conservativergain you think, though, that the torie kind of conservative value that kind of conservative value you— that kind of conservative value yea eall— that kind of conservative value yea eall lnal— that kind of conservative value you said that they were supposed to you said that they were supposed le-ln— you said that they were supposed le-ln lne— you said that they were supposed to-in the first— you said that they were supposed to-in the first place- you said that they were supposed to in the first place and to have in the first place and why— to have in the first place and why-vou— to have in the first place and wnylyea lnlnl— to have in the first place and why you think that they do why do you think that they do not why do you think that they do nel nave— why do you think that they do not have-chops- why do you think that they do not have-chops ,- why do you think that they do not have chops , if you not have the chops, if you weall.— not have the chops, if you weall. le— not have the chops, if you would, to actually do something aleal— would, to actually do something about-situation— would, to actually do something about situation the about the situation in the cnannel— about the situation in the channel do— about the situation in the channel do you think anyone else weall— channel do you think anyone else weall le— channel do you think anyone else weall le a— channel do you think anyone else would do a better— channel do you think anyone else would do a betterjob? your lnealnle— would do a betterjob? your thoughts-that- would do a betterjob? your thoughts-that .- would do a betterjob? your thoughts that . but would do a betterjob? your- thoughts-that . but are thoughts on all of that. but are you— thoughts on all of that. but are yea lanlal— thoughts on all of that. but are yea lanlal le— thoughts on all of that. but are yea lanlal le a— thoughts on all of that. but are you partial to a pizza here? i llnl— you partial to a pizza here? i llnl lnle— you partial to a pizza here? i find this story— you partial to a pizza here? i find this story fascinating . find this story fascinating. weal— find this story fascinating. weal an— find this story fascinating. next up, because papa john's one of next up, because papa john's one el lne— next up, because papa john's one el lne ename— next up, because papa john's one

of the chains has— next up, because papa john's one of the chains has been stopped lem— of the chains has been stopped lrem elenlnl— of the chains has been stopped from opening pizza shop in in from opening a pizza shop in in a lanlealar— from opening a pizza shop in in a particular area— from opening a pizza shop in in a particular area because lnere-e— a particular area because lnere-e lee— a particular area because there's too many fat kids there. wnal— there's too many fat kids there. we le— there's too many fat kids there. we le yea— there's too many fat kids there. what do you think— there's too many fat kids there. what do you think to that? are you— what do you think to that? are yea eneeanl— what do you think to that? are you cheering saying, yes, basic common sense or— you cheering saying, yes, basic common sense or do you think me— common sense or do you think lnleane— common sense or do you think this-the-state- common sense or do you think this the state gone this is the nanny state gone male— this is the nanny state gone male we-ll— this is the nanny state gone mad? we'll-that- this is the nanny state gone mad? we'll that and more. mad? we'll have that and more. len-l— mad? we'll have that and more. len-llanywnere.— mad? we'll have that and more. don't-anywhere. i'll- mad? we'll have that and more. don't anywhere. i'll see you don't go anywhere. i'll see you

in two. i in two. hello. i in two. i hello there. i in two. - hello there. i'm | ln lwe— hello there. i'm michelle. leellnl— hello there. i'm michelle. leellnl yea— hello there. i'm michelle. keeping you company till 7:00 lenlell— keeping you company till 7:00 lenlgnl. lne— keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. the ceo— keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. the ceo of first ereeeny— tonight. the ceo of first property group and former brexit party— property group and former brexit narly wen— property group and former brexit eany llll. len— property group and former brexit party mep, ben habib , keeps me party mep, ben habib, keeps me eemeany— party mep, ben habib, keeps me eemeany. ae— party mep, ben habib, keeps me eemeany. ae leee— party mep, ben habib, keeps me company, as does the political ceneall— company, as does the political ceneall anl— company, as does the political consult and emma burnell who in the consult and emma burnell who in me lreal.— consult and emma burnell who in the break, ladies— consult and emma burnell who in the break, ladies and gents, snee— the break, ladies and gents, sne-e lael— the break, ladies and gents, she's just showed me that she leaen— she's just showed me that she can touch her— she's just showed me that she can touch her own— she's just showed me that she can touch her own head with a lalee. — can touch her own head with a lalee. l— can touch her own head with a false. i promise— can touch her own head with a false. i promise you i will newer-lne— false. i promise you i will never-the same- false. i promise you i will never the same again. after never be the same again. after wnal— never be the same again. after we l-we— never be the same again. after me he lael— never be the same again. after what i've just witnessed, i wlll. —ll-e- what i've just witnessed, i. will. _it's almost will. i will never. it's almost lnrewlnl— will. i will never. it's almost lnrewlnl-ell— will. i will never. it's almost throwing .off the - will. i will never. it's almost throwing off the end of my throwing me off the end of my elery— throwing me off the end of my elerylll— throwing me off the end of my elerylll nae— throwing me off the end of my story..it has lots— throwing me off the end of my story. it has lots of you story. so it has lots of you lnal— story. so it has lots of you lnal-lelllnl- story. so it has lots of you that-getting in- story. so it has lots of you that getting in touch on that are getting in touch on lnal— that are getting in touch on ma lael— that are getting in touch on that last one.— that are getting in touch on that last one. cannot believe lney-re—yea- that last one. cannot believe lney-re—yea lel that last one. cannot believei they're—you do not they're saying that you do not

regarl— they're saying that you do not regarllae— they're saying that you do not regardlas an— they're saying that you do not regard as an emergency or regard it as an emergency or a erlele— regard it as an emergency or a erlele . — regard it as an emergency or a erlele . all— regard it as an emergency or a crisis . and there's- regard it as an emergency or a crisis . and there's a- regard it as an emergency or a crisis . ' “r: tr.“rt.t; r: ”rt; ”li; t crisis. and there's a difference between emergency crisis and national legislation, national emergency legislation, is what i'm saying. well according to habib, who according to ben habib, who everybody loves, so it would seem we need an emergency seem we don't need an emergency situation after all. we can just invoke situations— situation after all. we can just invoke situations that- trtr“ we can just invoke situations that we alrealy— invoke situations that we already have.— invoke situations that we already have. but is political wlll— already have. but is political wlll all— already have. but is political will all that— already have. but is political will all that is— already have. but is political will all that is lacking in this eeanlry— will all that is lacking in this eeanlry e— will all that is lacking in this country ? let's— will all that is lacking in this country ? let's talk pizza, shall country? let's talk pizza, shall wee— country? let's talk pizza, shall wee leaee— country? let's talk pizza, shall we? because papa— country? let's talk pizza, shall we? because papa john's a chain ealleeel— we? because papa john's a chain eaeeeeel le— we? because papa john's a chain was supposed to be— we? because papa john's a chain was supposed to be opening a new elere— was supposed to be opening a new elere ln— was supposed to be opening a new store in tyneside._ was supposed to be opening a new store in tyneside. anyway long elery— store in tyneside. anyway long elery enem— store in tyneside. anyway long story short, local— store in tyneside. anyway long story short, local authorities were— story short, local authorities lnere are— story short, local authorities there are worried that it would laeleally— there are worried that it would basically cause— there are worried that it would basically cause problems for llle— basically cause problems for llle ln— basically cause problems for llle ln lnal— basically cause problems for kids in that area, not least leeaaee— kids in that area, not least because a lot— kids in that area, not least because a lot of- kids in that area, not least because a lot of the children were— because a lot of the children there apparently— because a lot of the children there apparently we are quite lll— there apparently we are quite lll lney-re— there apparently we are quite big. they're quite fat. i know we're not supposed to use that werl— we're not supposed to use that werlanle— we're not supposed to use that werlanle lay— we're not supposed to use that word-this day and- we're not supposed to use that word this day and age, but, word in this day and age, but, you— word in this day and age, but, yea mew.— word in this day and age, but, yea lnew. lll— word in this day and age, but, you know, i'll just— word in this day and age, but, you know, i'll just i'll go all eal.— you know, i'll just i'll go all eal. len.— you know, i'll just i'll go all out. ben, what— you know, i'll just i'll go all out. ben, what do you make to lnee— out. ben, what do you make to lee le— out. ben, what do you make to lee le lnle— out. ben, what do you make to this? is this a— out. ben, what do you make to this? is this a sensible llannlnl— this? is this a sensible planning nanny this? is this a sensible- planning-nanny state planning or is it nanny state gene— planning or is it nanny state gene male — planning or is it nanny state gone mad? no,— planning or is it nanny state gone mad? no, i- planning or is it nanny state gone mad? \rrtr r:rt:r“ . planning or is it nanny state gone mad? \rtr . gone mad? no, i don't think this is sensible planning. it's not the job to decide which the planners job to decide which menus acceptable in a fast menus are acceptable in a fast food takeaway shops, and this is effectively a judgement on what

papa john's is selling. if they have from a planning perspective , if they have the ability and the available motty of further hot food takeaway uses to be granted in that particular locality , then they should be locality, then they should be blind to the kind of hot food that's being sold and they should leave it to the health and safety, you know, food standards and all the rest of it to determine what is sold. it's not a planner's job to make that decision. and i think it was the planning. it was the planning officer, the local authority. and planning and then the planning inspectorate that declined it. and this is a very good and i think this is a very good case to take this to the secretary of state and to appeal it up to michael it all the way up to michael gove. but then when you look nem— gove. but then when you look rllnl. ee— gove. but then when you look rlgnl. ee lel-e— gove. but then when you look right, so let's have— . but then when you look right, so let's have a look at el— right, so let's have a look at some of this. _ right, so let's have a look at some of this. so— right, so let's have a look at some of this. so the is some of this. so the data is eaylnl— some of this. so the data is eaylng lnal— some of this. so the data is saying that 21%_ some of this. so the data is saying that 21% out of year, six llle— saying that 21% out of year, six llle-laele— saying that 21% out of year, six llle-laele .— saying that 21% out of year, six kids-basic , sickly- saying that 21% out of year, six kids basic , sickly obese. kids are basic, sickly obese. l-we— kids are basic, sickly obese. l-we lel— kids are basic, sickly obese. l-we lel le— kids are basic, sickly obese. l-we lel le eay— kids are basic, sickly obese. i've got to say, emma, i find lnal— i've got to say, emma, i find me lrelly— i've got to say, emma, i find that pretty outrageous because llle— that pretty outrageous because llle .— that pretty outrageous because llle . lney— that pretty outrageous because kids , they don't— that pretty outrageous because kids , they don't have their own kids, they don't have their own eey — kids, they don't have their own eey vea— kids, they don't have their own money. you know,— kids, they don't have their own money. you know, they don't really— money. you know, they don't really le— money. you know, they don't really le anl— money. you know, they don't really go and do— money. you know, they don't

really go and do their own enelllnl — really go and do their own shopping- the— really go and do their own shopping. the parents are giving lnem— shopping. the parents are giving lnem-anl— shopping. the parents are giving them _and then- shopping. the parents are giving them and then the parents them money and then the parents are them money and then the parents ellner— them money and then the parents are either doing— them money and then the parents are either doing the— them money and then the parents are either doing the shopping for are either doing the shopping ler lnem— are either doing the shopping for them allowing their kids for them or allowing their kids to for them or allowing their kids le eal— for them or allowing their kids to eat whatever.— for them or allowing their kids to eat whatever. and i think wnen— to eat whatever. and i think wnen-nawe— to eat whatever. and i think when-have-is. to eat whatever. and i think. when-have-is obese when you have a child is obese anl— when you have a child is obese anlleaweal— when you have a child is obese andicaveat this— when you have a child is obese and caveat this because and i caveat this because if yae— and i caveat this because if ye lel— and i caveat this because if ye lel a— and i caveat this because if you've got a child that's got a melleal— you've got a child that's got a medical ailment,— you've got a child that's got a medical ailment, then of course, i medical ailment, then of course, llnel— medical ailment, then of course, llnel-lnle— medical ailment, then of course, llnel-lnle le— medical ailment, then of course, i.not-this to you,- medical ailment, then of course, i not this to you, but i do not refer this to you, but if i do not refer this to you, but ll yae— i do not refer this to you, but ll ye lel— i do not refer this to you, but ll ye lel a— i do not refer this to you, but if you've got a child that's eleee— if you've got a child that's eleee larely— if you've got a child that's obese purely because of diet and lael— obese purely because of diet and lael el— obese purely because of diet and lack of exercise,— obese purely because of diet and lack of exercise, going to lack of exercise, i'm going to be lack of exercise, i'm going to le-really— lack of exercise, i'm going to be-really harsh.- lack of exercise, i'm going to be really harsh. but be really, really harsh. but i do be really, really harsh. but i le reel— be really, really harsh. but i do feelifeel_ be really, really harsh. but i do feelifeel that- be really, really harsh. but i do feel feel that that is a do feel i feel that that is a ram— do feel i feel that that is a lerm el— do feel i feel that that is a form of child— do feel i feel that that is a form of child abuse. because on the form of child abuse. because on lne-elle.— form of child abuse. because on lne-elle. ll— form of child abuse. because on the-side, if you— form of child abuse. because on the-side, if you had- form of child abuse. because on the side, if you had a the flip side, if you had a enlll— the flip side, if you had a enlll-nel- the flip side, if you had a child not eating child that was not eating elawel— child that was not eating starved, - know, - child that was not eating starved, know, malnutrition starved, you know, malnutrition .wnalewer.— starved, you know, malnutrition , whatever, that— starved, you know, malnutrition , whatever, that would be abuse. lnl— , whatever, that would be abuse. anl-yea-we— , whatever, that would be abuse. anl-yea-we lel— , whatever, that would be abuse. and you've got obese and when you've got an obese ellll— and when you've got an obese enlll. yea-re— and when you've got an obese child, you're setting to child, you're setting them up to nave— child, you're setting them up to have-diabetes- child, you're setting them up to have-diabetes ,- child, you're setting them up to have diabetes , heart have potential diabetes, heart lleeaee— have potential diabetes, heart lleeaee. all— have potential diabetes, heart disease, all the— have potential diabetes, heart disease, all the rest of it that r-is_ disease, all the rest of it that .-le a— disease, all the rest of it that .-le a lerm — disease, all the rest of it that .-le a lerm el- disease, all the rest of it that , is a form of abuse. disease, all the rest of it that , is a form of , to me is a form of abuse. i l— , to me is a form of abuse. i l lllnl— , to me is a form of abuse. i mean, i think abuse- , to me is a form of abuse. i mean, i think abuse is too strong a term. but why just i shy away from it? because i think there are lots of things that need to be done. there are two reasons. as far as i can see, that children are more obese now than they were 20, 30 years ago. the first is that children's time is so

micromanaged and very little of it is just spent running around the street, which is what we did , which is what kind of kept us, i guess, a lot more healthy than staying in having very strict time management. staying in having very strict time management . and the second time management. and the second is that food has changed a great deal is that food has changed a great deal. so there's a lot more processed food, a lot more high sugar starch, all of these things. and so even and we just have less time than we used to have. so if you're working a 12 hour shift, just slinging on some chicken nuggets, feels like you're kids a you're giving your kids a healthy and they're not healthy food and they're not burning calories . there burning off the calories. there are of things we are a lot of things that we should be to make sure should be doing to make sure that we can really try to stop kids getting obese, because actually, if you can stop it in childhood, it stops you getting into worse state later on into a much worse state later on into a much worse state later on in life. well, joining me now is slewe— in life. well, joining me now is slewe nmler.— in life. well, joining me now is steve miller,-loss- steve miller, a weight loss exeerl— steve miller, a weight loss exlerl .— steve miller, a weight loss exlerl. ll— steve miller, a weight loss expert . it keeps me company. expert. it keeps me company. llele— expert. it keeps me company. slewe. eeel— expert. it keeps me company. steve, good evening to you. what do steve, good evening to you. what le yea— steve, good evening to you. what le yea make— steve, good evening to you. what le yea male le— steve, good evening to you. what do you make to this? i'm saying to do you make to this? i'm saying le-lnal— do you make to this? i'm saying le-lnallyear— do you make to this? i'm saying to-thatlyour-is. to emma that if your child is well— to emma that if your child is well .— to emma that if your child is well . all— to emma that if your child is well . all le— to emma that if your child is well, all i.e, does not have melleal— well, all i.e, does not have medical condition and they are eleee— medical condition and they are eleee le— medical condition and they are eleee le me— medical condition and they are obese to me and— medical condition and they are

obese to me and i'm sorry, i knew— obese to me and i'm sorry, i knew me— obese to me and i'm sorry, i knew we lema— obese to me and i'm sorry, i know it's going to be quite anllnl— know it's going to be quite anllnl ler— know it's going to be quite unkind for people to hear, but i do unkind for people to hear, but i le llnl— unkind for people to hear, but i le llnl ll— unkind for people to hear, but i le llnl ll a— unkind for people to hear, but i do find it a form— unkind for people to hear, but i do find it a form of child alaee— do find it a form of child abuse. what— do find it a form of child abuse. what do you think? 0“ abuse. what do you think? oh, i lllnl— abuse. what do you think? oh, i lllnl yeare— abuse. what do you think? oh, i think you're absolutely right. i mean, and many parents in this country do not take responsibility for their children. and parents children. and many parents actually dodi. and by the way, many do take responsibility, i have say, many do not have to say, but many do not take responsibility. and they like to sit in a fast food restaurant shovelling it in themselves, obese little restaurant shovelling it in themselors, obese little restaurant shovelling it in themselor little se little restaurant shovelling it in themselor little gemmatle restaurant shovelling it in themselor little gemma also tommy or little gemma also shovesitin tommy or little gemma also shoves it in as well in their obese.i shoves it in as well in their obese. i am a man of common sense , right? and i do not like sense, right? and i do not like nanny state. however i think on this occasion, nanny has to pop out a little bit. so what we're doing here is we're using common sense. too many children are too fat . have we got to cut down on fat. have we got to cut down on the amount of fast food restaurants and takeaways that shine in front of them? yes we have. we've got to use common sense and we've got to replace it with something else. and for people in entrepreneurship that say, oh, you know, it should be a free market, yes, i get that .

a free market, yes, i get that. but if you're a good entrepreneur, you have creativity and maybe it's time entrepreneur, you have creatto ty and maybe it's time entrepreneur, you have creatto thinki maybe it's time entrepreneur, you have creatto think of|aybe it's time entrepreneur, you have creatto think of something me entrepreneur, you have creatto think of something that now to think of something that can actually replace these kinds of takeout . it's something of takeout. it's something that's just more exciting for children because what we've done is we've hypnotised kids in this country to eat junk . but i do country to eat junk. but i do balance that with parental responsibility because parents on the whole , yes, they do on the whole, yes, they do a good job. most parents, but some love to make excuses . and just love to make excuses. and just very lanny.— love to make excuses. and just very quickly you— love to make excuses. and just very quickly, you know,- t and just very quickly, you know, let's lace— very quickly, you know, let's laee n,— very quickly, you know, let's face it, people— very quickly, you know, let's face it, people do have to work all face it, people do have to work all lne— face it, people do have to work all the hours,— face it, people do have to work all the hours, especially if yea-re— all the hours, especially if yea-re a— all the hours, especially if you're a single— all the hours, especially if you're a single parent. perhaps yae— you're a single parent. perhaps ye lel— you're a single parent. perhaps ye lel le— you're a single parent. perhaps you've got to work— you're a single parent. perhaps you've got to work the hours you've got to work all the hours lnal— you've got to work all the hours lnal-eenle— you've got to work all the hours that-sends to— you've got to work all the hours that-sends to bring- you've got to work all the hours that sends to bring in an that god sends to bring in an meme—le- that god sends to bring in an income _for those i income to provide for those ellllren— income to provide for those children. so— income to provide for those children. so you— income to provide for those children. so you might be time leer.— children. so you might be time leen-le— children. so you might be time leen-le yea— children. so you might be time poor..do you think- children. so you might be time poor. do you think that that poor. so do you think that that is poor. so do you think that that le-er— poor. so do you think that that le-el a— poor. so do you think that that is-of a reason— poor. so do you think that that is of a reason then, that is kind of a reason then, that aelaally— is kind of a reason then, that actually chicken— is kind of a reason then, that actually chicken nuggets in the oven, - go. - know, i oven, off you go. you know, i lnlnl— oven, off you go. you know, i lnlnl ll-e— oven, off you go. you know, i think it's idleness. think it's bone idleness. llelen— think it's bone idleness. llelen. l— think it's bone idleness. listen, i know— think it's bone idleness. listen, i know lots- think it's bone idleness. listen, i know lots of- think it's bone idleness. listen, i know lots of single parents. let's not patronise single lot of single single parents. a lot of single parents do a good job owning the health of their children. and when it comes to children, frankly, people need think frankly, people need to think these days they have these days before they have their children because it is their children because it is

their responsibility to manage their responsibility to manage the health of their kids. it's not my responsibility . it's not not my responsibility. it's not your responsibility. it's not the government's responsibility primarily . the government's responsibility primarily. it is the parent parent s need to own their children better when it comes to what's going into their mouths. interesting stuff. steve miller, a wellnl— interesting stuff. steve miller, awellnl leee— interesting stuff. steve miller, a weight loss expert,- “lg steve miller, a weight loss expert, thank you for a weight loss expert, thank you ler year— a weight loss expert, thank you ler year llme.— a weight loss expert, thank you for your time. ben— a weight loss expert, thank you for your time. ben habib , just for your time. ben habib, just lanny.— for your time. ben habib, just lalelly. l— for your time. ben habib, just lalelly. l wae— for your time. ben habib, just quickly, i was somewhere the emer— quickly, i was somewhere the ewe lay— quickly, i was somewhere the ewe lay anl— quickly, i was somewhere the other day and it— quickly, i was somewhere the other day and it was quite a lelerel— other day and it was quite a deprived area— other day and it was quite a deprived area and i was blown away— deprived area and i was blown away ly— deprived area and i was blown away ly new— deprived area and i was blown away by how many betting shops mere— away by how many betting shops lnere — away by how many betting shops there were. and— away by how many betting shops there were. and i— away by how many betting shops there were. and i sat there and i there were. and i sat there and l lleaell— there were. and i sat there and llnealnl. le— there were. and i sat there and i thought, do you— there were. and i sat there and i thought, do you know what this is? i thought, do you know what this lee—reellnl- i thought, do you know what this is?_feedinglhabit?| is? preying on? feeding a habit? wean— is? preying on? feeding a habit? wean-lll— is? preying on? feeding a habit? wean-ll l— is? preying on? feeding a habit? yeah-did. i sat— is? preying on? feeding a habit? yeah did. i sat there and yeah and i did. i sat there and i yeah and i did. i sat there and llleaell— yeah and i did. i sat there and i thought, because i'm not into lle— i thought, because i'm not into llle-slale.— i thought, because i'm not into like-state, but- i thought, because i'm not into like-state, but i- i thought, because i'm not into like state, but i thought, like nanny state, but i thought, why— like nanny state, but i thought, wny le— like nanny state, but i thought, wny le lnal— like nanny state, but i thought, why is that being— like nanny state, but i thought, why is that being allowed? why were— why is that being allowed? why mere—er- why is that being allowed? why lnere—el-lnl there was multiple of them in lle— there was multiple of them in lllelllny— there was multiple of them in like ltiny little— there was multiple of them in like tiny little stretch. why? like a tiny little stretch. why? wean— like a tiny little stretch. why? vean|mean.— like a tiny little stretch. why? yeah mean, planning yeah i mean, from a planning lereeeellwe— yeah i mean, from a planning perspective and— yeah i mean, from a planning perspective and from licencing perspective and from a licencing rereeeellwe— perspective and from a licencing rereeeellwe-way- perspective and from a licencing perspective, way, because perspective, by the way, because you perspective, by the way, because yea-mmee— perspective, by the way, because you _thingslorder- perspective, by the way, because you _thingslorder toi you need two things in order to elerale— you need two things in order to operatelbetting_ you need two things in order to operate betting shop, you need operate a betting shop, you need lem— operate a betting shop, you need lem-lnal— operate a betting shop, you need leln-lnal ean- operate a betting shop, you need both-that can be- both of those that can be controlled. _ both of those that can be controlled. so - both of those that can be controlled. : controlled. so i'm surprised that would allow a string that they would allow a string to up in way that you to set up in the way that you describe. should they describe. they should they should be controlling that. i remember the high remember going down the high elreel—

remember going down the high elreel-lne— remember going down the high street-the 2008- remember going down the high street the 2008 crash. . street after the 2008 crash. it waeleeaple— street after the 2008 crash. it waeleeaple el— street after the 2008 crash. it waslcouple of years- street after the 2008 crash. it waslcouple of years after. street after the 2008 crash. it was couple of years after and was a couple of years after and it was betting shop and new unusual religious sect, 3 or 4 of them of each had sprung up on this one high street. and i just thought those that is the two groups of people who are really kind of trying to appeal to very vulnerable, very, very difficult people difficult people in very difficult circumstances. yeah, people in very difficult circumstances . yeah, and it's circumstances. yeah, and it's a leaen— circumstances. yeah, and it's a lealn-leeaaee— circumstances. yeah, and it's a tough-because i'm- circumstances. yeah, and it's a tough-because i'm not- rt. trt... t yeah, and it's a tough because i'm not into i tough one because i'm not into i len-l— tough one because i'm not into i len-l wanl— tough one because i'm not into i len-l wanl lne— tough one because i'm not into i don't want the government to do aleelalely—ae. - absolutely everything for us. eal—llme- absolutely everything for us. eal—llme .- absolutely everything for us. eal—llme . l- absolutely everything for us. but—time , i doi absolutely everything for us. i but—time , i do not but at the same time, i do not wanl— but at the same time, i do not wanl leelle— but at the same time, i do not wanl leelle le— but at the same time, i do not want people to exploited . want people to be exploited. lnle— want people to be exploited. lnle wnele— want people to be exploited. this whole-by- want people to be exploited. this whole by the way, this whole notion, by the way, lnal— this whole notion, by the way, lnal-ll-e— this whole notion, by the way, that-it's cheaper- this whole notion, by the way, that it's cheaper to that actually it's cheaper to eal— that actually it's cheaper to eat r— that actually it's cheaper to eal . yea— that actually it's cheaper to eat , you know,— that actually it's cheaper to eat , you know, rubbish, eat, you know, rubbish, laeleally— eat, you know, rubbish, laeleally .— eat, you know, rubbish, basically . yeah, i don't agree basically. yeah, i don't agree wlln— basically. yeah, i don't agree wlln lnal— basically. yeah, i don't agree mm mm l— basically. yeah, i don't agree with that. i think— basically. yeah, i don't agree with that. i think we can get me— with that. i think we can get lnle lnal— with that. i think we can get lnle me a— with that. i think we can get into that a bit— with that. i think we can get into that a bit more another day lnal— into that a bit more another day we wlll— into that a bit more another day that will divide— into that a bit more another day that will divide a— into that a bit more another day that will divide a lot of you at neme.— that will divide a lot of you at neme. l— that will divide a lot of you at home. i always— that will divide a lot of you at home. i always tell you my story aleal— home. i always tell you my story aleal-aeel— home. i always tell you my story about-used to- home. i always tell you my story about-used to make. home. i always tell you my story about used to make us about my mum used to make us enlelen— about my mum used to make us chicken .without_ about my mum used to make us chicken without the chicken chicken pie without the chicken so chicken pie without the chicken ee lnal— chicken pie without the chicken ee lnal wae— chicken pie without the chicken ee lnal a— chicken pie without the chicken so that was a true— chicken pie without the chicken so that was a true story we did. my so that was a true story we did. wy-eealln-l— so that was a true story we did. my-couldn't afford- so that was a true story we did. my couldn't afford the my mum couldn't afford the ellelen— my mum couldn't afford the chicken._cringes| my mum couldn't afford the- chicken._cringes when chicken. she always cringes when i chicken. she always cringes when l—en— chicken. she always cringes when l—en nee.- chicken. she always cringes when l—en nere. lal- i tell the story on here, but ene— i tell the story on here, but ene eneall— i tell the story on here, but she should go— i tell the story on here, but she should go into politics. she eealln-l— she should go into politics. she couldn't afford— she should go into politics. she couldn't afford chicken. she couldn't afford the chicken. she she couldn't afford the chicken. she ene-make— couldn't afford the chicken. she she - make chicken - couldn't afford the chicken. she she make chicken pie she used to make chicken pie wlln— she used to make chicken pie with-chicken.— she used to make chicken pie with .chicken..this- she used to make chicken pie with chicken. this day, with that chicken. to this day, if

with that chicken. to this day, ll-lne— with that chicken. to this day, if-the audacity- with that chicken. to this day, if the audacity try if she has the audacity to try anl— if she has the audacity to try anl lneerl— if she has the audacity to try and insert-into- if she has the audacity to try and insert into our and insert chicken into our enlelen— and insert chicken into our enlelen-me— and insert chicken into our chicken-me and- and insert chicken into our chicken me and all of my chicken pie, me and all of my ellllnee— chicken pie, me and all of my ellllnle. we— chicken pie, me and all of my siblings, we say— chicken pie, me and all of my siblings, we say no, we don't wanl— siblings, we say no, we don't wanl-we— siblings, we say no, we don't wanllwe eay— siblings, we say no, we don't want-we say, no,- siblings, we say no, we don't want we say, no, no thanks, want it. we say, no, no thanks, nale-— want it. we say, no, no thanks, male. lalel— want it. we say, no, no thanks, mate. baked bean— want it. we say, no, no thanks, mate. baked bean pie as elalenle. — mate. baked bean pie as students. oh,- mate. baked bean pie as students. 0“ : mate. baked bean pie as students. : mate. baked bean pie as- students. oh, baked beans. oh, i'm students. oh, baked beans. oh, l-m-leel— students. oh, baked beans. oh, l-m-leel al— students. oh, baked beans. oh, i'm-look at-time.. i'm hungry. look at the time. goa.— i'm hungry. look at the time. lel. yae— i'm hungry. look at the time. god, you've hungry. i'm hungry. look at the time.- god, you've-hungry. now god, you've made me hungry. now i god, you've made me hungry. now l-90i"9_ god, you've made me hungry. now l-lelnl le— god, you've made me hungry. now l-lelnl lelnawe— god, you've made me hungry. now i-going to.have some- god, you've made me hungry. now i going to have some food. i am going to go have some food. mea— i am going to go have some food. mea. len— i am going to go have some food. emma. ben thank— i am going to go have some food. emma. ben thank you much. emma. ben thank you very much. mank— emma. ben thank you very much. lnanl—nawe- emma. ben thank you very much. lnanl—nawe a- emma. ben thank you very much. thank_ have a goodj thank you. at home. have a good wllel— thank you. at home. have a good one. nigel farage._ thank you. at home. have a good one. nigel farage. up next. see you— one. nigel farage. up next. see yea lemenew— one. nigel farage. up next. see you tomorrow evening. ' you tomorrow evening. a hot elarl— you tomorrow evening. a hot elarl le— you tomorrow evening. a hot elarl le lne— you tomorrow evening. a hot start to the week. is going start to the week. it is going to and sunny for most to stay fine. and sunny for most places, but temperatures just dropping as we go dropping off a touch as we go through this week. there is through this week. and there is still likelihood further still the likelihood of further thunderstorms on tuesday. we've seen downpours today and seen some downpours today and still 1 or 2 thunderstorms rumbling on at the moment, but they are going to fade. and as we go through this evening, in most places becoming dry under the influence pressure. the influence of high pressure. but said, still few but as i said, still a few storms around at moment. storms around at the moment. they'll fade in most they'll tend to fade in most location as we could just keep 1 or 2 going pushing or 2 going and pushing northwards through night. northwards through the night. but going to be but for most it's going to be a dry night with lengthy , clear dry night with lengthy, clear spells, cooler than spells, a little cooler than last night in the east. but for

most, it'll be, again, really quite warm, quite humid, a tncky quite warm, quite humid, a tricky night for sleeping onto the details for tuesday. vast majority , dry and sunny, sums it majority, dry and sunny, sums it up, but we are likely to start with a few scattered showers and quite misty conditions around some coasts . mist and low cloud some coasts. mist and low cloud may stick in shetland and again through the afternoon. the potential for further thunderstorms to break out mostly over western parts of scotland and the western side of northern ireland. again it could be torrential and they may cause some disruption. so we do have metoffice warning in place, but most places won't see those showers tomorrow. generally, it's to sunny one. a it's going to be a sunny one. a warmer day in the south—west temperatures again, generally mid to high although it mid to high 20s, although it will be cooler on the coast and we might get up to 30 degrees in 1 or 2 locations as again, it's dry fine and pretty clear through tuesday night into wednesday morning. still the potential for 1 wednesday morning. still the potential for1 or wednesday morning. still the potential for 1 or 2 wednesday morning. still the potential for1 or 2 showers potential for 1 or 2 showers across the far north—west and mist and ha could just return back the coast of eastern back to the coast of eastern scotland. could stick scotland. that could stick around into wednesday . but

around into wednesday. but again, for most places , again, for most places, wednesday is looking dry and sunny and the risk of showers in the north—west really dropping away. temperatures just dropping away. temperatures just dropping away a touch as well. but it's still going to feel very warm and humid with temperatures in the low to 20s. goodbye .

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