said he sees no reason to suspend— said he sees no reason to suspend nicola- said he sees no reason to suspend nicola sturgeon from the snp suspend nicola sturgeon from the w following— suspend nicola sturgeon from the snp following her— suspend nicola sturgeon from the snp following her arrest . suspend nicola sturgeon from the snp following her arrest. but sw— snp following her arrest. but snp parliamentarians have called on the— snp parliamentarians have called on the former— snp parliamentarians have called on the former first— snp parliamentarians have called on the former first minister to resign.— on the former first minister to resign. the— on the former first minister to resign. the whip— on the former first minister to resign. the whip after she was questioned— resign. the whip after she was questioned yesterday by police investigating— questioned yesterday by police investigating the— questioned yesterday by police investigating the party's finances— investigating the party's finances .— investigating the party's finances . was released finances. she was released without— finances. she was released without charge _ finances. she was released without charge and insists she's innocent— without charge and insists she's innocent of— without charge and insists she's innocent of any— without charge and insists she's innocent of any wrongdoing in the innocent of any wrongdoing in nne unten— innocent of any wrongdoing in the united states. the former president— the united states. the former president donald— the united states. the former president donald trump landed in miami,— president donald trump landed in miami, florida— president donald trump landed in miami, florida this— president donald trump landed in miami, florida this afternoon. ne-s— miami, florida this afternoon. ne-s nun— miami, florida this afternoon. ne-s in no— miami, florida this afternoon. he's due to appear in court tomorrow. mr— he's due to appear in court tomorrow. mr trump faces charges of tomorrow. mr trump faces charges on nnnnnnnng— tomorrow. mr trump faces charges of mishandling classified documents— of mishandling classified documents as— of mishandling classified documents as he's accused of allegedly— documents as he's accused of allegedly unlawfully keeping us national— allegedly unlawfully keeping us national security— allegedly unlawfully keeping us national security documents and men— national security documents and nnen tying— national security documents and nnen tying no— national security documents and then lying to officials who tried— then lying to officials who tried no— then lying to officials who tried to retrieve them. despite the tried to retrieve them. despite nne former— tried to retrieve them. despite the former president's legal nannies— the former president's legal nannies ,— the former president's legal battles , his— the former president's legal battles , his popularity among battles, his popularity among republican— battles, his popularity among republican voters is still high. opinion— republican voters is still high. opinion nous— republican voters is still high. opinion polls are— republican voters is still high. opinion polls are showing him far opinion polls are showing him in annea— opinion polls are showing him in need on— opinion polls are showing him far ahead of his— opinion polls are showing him far ahead of his competition for the far ahead of his competition for nne president— far ahead of his competition for the president nomination . and it the president nomination. and it was a sea of blue— the president nomination. and it was a sea of blue in manchester nnn— was a sea of blue in manchester nnn evening,— was a sea of blue in manchester nnn evening, as— was a sea of blue in manchester this evening, as manchester city fans— this evening, as manchester city fans nook— this evening, as manchester city fans took no— this evening, as manchester city fans took to the— this evening, as manchester city fans took to the streets to

eetetnete — fans took to the streets to celebrate their— fans took to the streets to celebrate their treble victory nttn— celebrate their treble victory nttn e— celebrate their treble victory nttn e vteten— celebrate their treble victory with a victory parade. rain and the with a victory parade. rain and tne tnneet— with a victory parade. rain and tne tnneet et— with a victory parade. rain and the threat of thunderstorms tttn-t— the threat of thunderstorms tttn-t teen— the threat of thunderstorms didn't keep thousands of fans enti— didn't keep thousands of fans teen teen — didn't keep thousands of fans teen teen tne— didn't keep thousands of fans away from the city centre , away from the city centre, eetetnttne— away from the city centre, celebrating after man city eeennet— celebrating after man city secured the _ celebrating after man city secured the champions league tenni— secured the champions league teeny nttn— secured the champions league teeny nttn e— secured the champions league trophy with a 1—0— secured the champions league trophy with a 1—0 victory over tnten— trophy with a 1—0 victory over tnten inten— trophy with a 1—0 victory over inter milan at— trophy with a 1—0 victory over inter milan at the— trophy with a 1—0 victory over inter milan at the weekend. so tney-ve — inter milan at the weekend. so tney-ve ettet— inter milan at the weekend. so they've added now the magic tntnt— they've added now the magic tntnt tenni— they've added now the magic third trophy to _ they've added now the magic third trophy to their premier teeene— third trophy to their premier teegne tttte— third trophy to their premier league title and the fa cup . the league title and the fa cup. the tene— league title and the fa cup. the tene tn— league title and the fa cup. the fans in manchester— league title and the fa cup. the fans in manchester tonight eeetette— fans in manchester tonight ecstatic. congratulations to tten— ecstatic. congratulations to tnen. ten-ne— ecstatic. congratulations to them. you're up— ecstatic. congratulations to them. you're up to date on tv enttne— them. you're up to date on tv enttne nett— them. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio— them. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on the tune— online dab+ radio and on the tune tn— online dab+ radio and on the tune tn app— online dab+ radio and on the tune tn app .— online dab+ radio and on the tune in app . this— online dab+ radio and on the tune in app . this is gb news tune in app. this is gb news entetn-e— tune in app. this is gb news britain's news— tune in app. this is gb news britain's news ._ britain's news. channel nette— britain's news. channel nette ,— britain's news. channel hello , welcome to headliners. hello, welcome to headliners. tn — hello, welcome to headliners. tn stnen— hello, welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans.— hello, welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans. joining- hello, welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans. joining me tonight, jojo sutherland and nick dixon. good evening, ladies . gentlemen. how are you.7 very . gentlemen. how are you? very well, simon. it's been a while. it has. i've been gallivanting. neve— it has. i've been gallivanting. have you?— it has. i've been gallivanting. have you? tt-s— it has. i've been gallivanting. have you? it's very— it has. i've been gallivanting. have you? it's very nice- it has. i've been gallivanting. have you? it's very nice of you to add us to your itinerary.

thank you for having me. you have been very much at home. i've doing whatever the i've been doing whatever the opposite of gallivanting is. yes. event hunting. yeah yes. remain event hunting. yeah well, let's take a look at tuesday's front pages. the daily mail has a vision of kyrees britain , which is just stop oil britain, which is just stop oil and a lot of migrant crossings by the look of it not very dissimilar to the current one we're living under with the tories. the guardian outrage as woman jailed for abortion after legal cut off the financial times, mps to grill city watchdog over o'day investigation and silvio berlusconi. there are rip the time is ex pm was not told he had obeyed covid rules. the independent boris i didn't ask pm to bend on his rules. he's talking rubbish and the daily star ufo crash hushed up by the pope. star ufo crash hushed up by the pope . same old, same old. those pope. same old, same old. those were your front pages . so we

were your front pages. so we begin with the metro. jojo and all out war. well, first things net.— all out war. well, first things ttnet. ._ all out war. well, first things ttnet. . net— all out war. well, first things first. i had no— all out war. well, first things first. i had no idea- well, first things first. i had no idea that when you— first. i had no idea that when you neetgnet— first. i had no idea that when you resigned as— first. i had no idea that when you resigned as an mp, you got to tenet— you resigned as an mp, you got to shower, peerages onto people. i to shower, peerages onto people. . tttn-t— to shower, peerages onto people. . tttn-t knew— to shower, peerages onto people. i didn't know that— to shower, peerages onto people. i didn't know that was a thing. i didn't know that was a thing. . tttnt— i didn't know that was a thing. ttttnt tttt-s— i didn't know that was a thing. i think that's his— i didn't know that was a thing. i think that's his ex.— i didn't know that was a thing. i think that's his ex. pm- i think that's his ex. pm peerages. oh, is it? ex—pm? not everybodv- — peerages. oh, is it? ex—pm? not everybody- ttgnt. — peerages. oh, is it? ex—pm? not everybody. right. okay.- peerages. oh, is it? ex—pm? not everybody. right. okay. i- 3 o" fl ex—pm? not everybody. right. cit/ti c:::tx everybody. right. okay. i don't think so . it everybody. right. okay. i don't think so. it just— everybody. right. cit/ti ctzzt c it just reminds me of think so. it just reminds me of sent— think so. it just reminds me of set et— think so. it just reminds me of set et une— think so. it just reminds me of sort of like quiz— it just reminds me of sort of like quiz shows when everybody— sort of like quiz shows when everybody gets— sort of like quiz shows when everybody gets a shout out at the everybody gets a shout out at tne enn— everybody gets a shout out at tne ent, inst— everybody gets a shout out at the end, just like,— everybody gets a shout out at the end, just like, here's all my— the end, just like, here's all my tntente— the end, just like, here's all my friends. oh,— the end, just like, here's all my friends. oh, come showering tenn— my friends. oh, come showering town teen — my friends. oh, come showering down from the— my friends. oh, come showering down from the ceiling. “43?" down from the ceiling. yeah. i tttnt— down from the ceiling. yeah. i tttntitetnt— down from the ceiling. yeah. i think heard quite a few from think we heard quite a few from liz truss as well recently as well though. i'm not. oh did we. oh i don't know. oh right. okay. i don't know. i don't know whether it's like whether index or whether it's index linked or depends you stayed depends on how long you stayed or it's quite a normal or whatever. it's quite a normal thing. i know about it thing. i only know about it teeense— thing. i only know about it tense ._ thing. i only know about it because i do— thing. i only know about it because i do a— g i only know about it because i do a podcast cg i only know about it because i do a podcast with toby young— because i do a podcast with toby young ent— because i do a podcast with toby tonnes and te-s— because i do a podcast with toby young and he's been desperate to get—on- get one for ages. but. oh, nett. — get one for ages. but. oh, ngtt. okay.— get one for ages. but. oh, right. sorry, toby, but right. okay. sorry, toby, but ttene-s— right. okay. sorry, toby, but ttene-s e— right. okay. sorry, toby, but there's a whole—

right. cite/q sorry, toby, but there's a whole thing now because. well,- there's a whole thing now because. �*ftt�*tzx tec there's a whole thing now because. wt“ there's a whole thing now- because. well, nadine dorries is cross and she's resigned and she didn't and didn't get one and. yeah. and then yeah, so there's all the kind of the that is kind of the conflict that is obviously really obviously massive and really important about that. and i suppose what matters really is whether or not it is johnson suppose what matters really is whetofr or not it is johnson suppose what matters really is whetof teeing: it is johnson suppose what matters really is whetof teeing up is johnson suppose what matters really is whetof teeing up himself)n suppose what matters really is whetof teeing up himself for kind of teeing up himself for a leadership, you know, do you think he's going to come in as a king over the water? what do you reckon? well, who knows? yeah. i mean, the issue was that rishi apparently of his apparently got rid of his peerages, he wanted apparently got rid of his pe givezs, he wanted apparently got rid of his pe give out, he wanted apparently got rid of his pe give out, which he wanted apparently got rid of his pe give out, which is he wanted apparently got rid of his pe give out, which is obviouslyj to give out, which is obviously a bit of a it's an inflammatory thing to do. but yeah, the question boris come question is, can boris come back? he or he start back? can he or will he start some sort of other party? it kind of seems unlikely, but you wouldn't anything wouldn't rule out anything with boris, seen boris, would you? i've seen serious commentators- c 7 i've seen serious commentators now ttsensstne— serious commentators now discussing the— serious commentators now discussing the possibility that the discussing the possibility that tte—tnenl discussing the possibility that tte—tnen tti the tory party as we know it, eentt— the tory party as we know it, could-finally— the tory party as we know it, could finally falling apart. could be finally falling apart. of could be finally falling apart. en eense— could be finally falling apart. of course,-is_ could be finally falling apart. of course, is exactly of course, this is exactly why ennnenen — of course, this is exactly why. cameron—referendum of course, this is exactly why- cameron_referendum in cameron called the referendum in 20.6,— cameron called the referendum in zone, tnt— cameron called the referendum in zone, tnt te— cameron called the referendum in 2016, but he didn't— cameron called the referendum in 2016, but he didn't want to get his 2016, but he didn't want to get tts-ttntt— 2016, but he didn't want to get tts-ttnt nttt— 2016, but he didn't want to get his-dirty with-he?j 2016, but he didn't want to geti his-dirty with-he? his hands dirty with it, did he? so, his hands dirty with it, did he? sol— his hands dirty with it, did he? so,-i remember— his hands dirty with it, did he? so,-i remember that- his hands dirty with it, did he? so, no, i remember that michael howard very desolate howard years were very desolate for and he thought for the tories and he thought then can't carry on. but then they can't carry on. but now you really do question it. then they can't carry on. but now y seemsly do question it. then they can't carry on. but now y seems to do question it. then they can't carry on. but now y seems to be question it. then they can't carry on. but now y seems to be suchion it. then they can't carry on. but now yseems to be such ai it.

then they can't carry on. but now yseems to be such a clear there seems to be such a clear divide between the sort of the wets, like, and the and wets, if you like, and the and the brexit although boris the brexit wing, although boris seems to sort of seems to be able to sort of traverse it, we really traverse it, we never really know what his real views are. but he is now obviously tied with brexit because he with the brexit wing because he achieved brexit. well, there are petite— achieved brexit. well, there are neente ._ achieved brexit. well, there are people t teen— achieved brexit. well, there are people i mean,-seen- e�*f : mix c well, there are people i mean, seen people people i mean, i've seen people sette— people i mean, i've seen people snytne-ttet— people i mean, i've seen people snytne-ttet t— people i mean, i've seen people saying-they if they- saying that if they if they ten-t— saying that if they if they| tent—st saying that if they if they- ten-t—et tntnty don't create some kind of fairly tent— don't create some kind of fairly tent-et— don't create some kind of fairly hard-at least- hard right or at least traditionally conservative type hard right or at least traparty,ally conservative type hard right or at least traparty, then onservative type hard right or at least traparty, then theervative type hard right or at least traparty, then the toryve type hard right or at least traparty, then the tory party,e of party, then the tory party, snet— of party, then the tory party, snet es— of party, then the tory party, snet ns t— of party, then the tory party, such as it is,— of party, then the tory party, such as it is, will— of party, then the tory party, such as it is, will just drift tnnten— such as it is, will just drift. further_ until further and further left until you— further and further left until ten—wett- further and further left untill you _well, there's you will just be. well, there's stit— you will just be. well, there's stttt n— you will just be. well, there's stttt e tnee— you will just be. well, there's still a huge there's a huge fan tense— still a huge there's a huge fan tese ten— still a huge there's a huge fan base for boris— still a huge there's a huge fan base for boris johnson, and nette— base for boris johnson, and mate ttnt-s— base for boris johnson, and maybe that's what he's trying to do_destabilisingl do is to just keep destabilising it do is to just keep destabilising tt-eneete— do is to just keep destabilising it-create divisions- do is to just keep destabilising it create divisions and then it and create divisions and then eene—tts- it and create divisions and then come _ his white i come back riding on his white energet— come back riding on his white etergen te— come back riding on his white charger to reclaim the party. teete— charger to reclaim the party. nicola, what— charger to reclaim the party. nicola, what do— charger to reclaim the party. nicola, what do think about nicola, what do you think about ttnte— nicola, what do you think about that?_wouldn't- that? well hello. wouldn't it? nationalist she nationalist parties, she probably be in jail though. so she might tricky. it be she might be tricky. it could be if if you'd bet on if you'd if you'd have bet on which was going in which one was going to be in jail, you would have said you wouldn't. absolutely. wouldn't. yeah, no, absolutely. well, you could have. boris. nicola. them. why nicola. yeah all of them. why don't just jail all of them nicola. yeah all of them. why don'startjust jail all of them nicola. yeah all of them. why don'start again? all of them nicola. yeah all of them. why don'start again? we )f them nicola. yeah all of them. why don'start again? we moven to and start again? we move on to the and start again? we move on to tte sweeten.— and start again? we move on to the guardian. nick— and start again? we move on to the guardian. nick yeah.- e�*c pig? 7 we move on to the guardian. nick yeah. " ac acga 7 we move on to the guardian. nick yeah. " the guardian. nick yeah. this is a the guardian. nick yeah. this is tsteettnn— the guardian. nick yeah. this is n steettng story- — the guardian. nick yeah. this is a shocking story. so— the guardian. nick yeah. this is a shocking story. so they've gone with outrageous woman

jailed gone with outrageous woman jailtoff and the guardian is very cut off and the guardian is very much gone the outrage about much gone with the outrage about the ing aspect. of the sentence ing aspect. but of course, there the outrage or course, there is the outrage or should outrage about should be outrage about the whole thing. so. bypass the whole thing. so. so bypass the british advisory british pregnancy advisory service centre. these pills in the post, which was completely irresponsible medically and legally, because it's dangerous. but also she could have faced life imprisonment. now she lied to get them. she said she was in the trimester. so that's the first trimester. so that's also very bad. they sent also very bad. but they sent her these had deliver these pills. she had to deliver these pills. she had to deliver the stillborn is apparently the baby stillborn is apparently haunted by its face as you can imagine, deep remorse, imagine, and has deep remorse, which been absolutely which must have been absolutely horrific. the question horrific. and the question is so be now , though, saying be bypassed now, though, saying it's and appalling, it's shocking and appalling, this sentence. so they're sort of doubling to of doubling down in order to distract from what they've done, which an extraordinarily which is an extraordinarily sort of malpractice. of medical malpractice. i don't know don't know if know if it's i don't know if i can legally say that's that's my opinion. you know, this opinion. and so, you know, this is this is a baby at 32 to 34 weeks. and people have been posting online that posting babies online that are born survive time. born and survive at that time. so doubling down, saying, so just doubling down, saying, well, you should be allowed to do this point. do abortions up to this point.

obviously, you shouldn't obviously, that's horrific. well, if you're going to have a ten—t— well, if you're going to have a ten—t neenl law at all about it, i mean, tt-s— law at all about it, i mean, tt-s-e— law at all about it, i mean, tt-s-e tnett— law at all about it, i mean, it's-a tricky one,- law at all about it, i mean, it's a tricky one, isn't it's such a tricky one, isn't in— it's such a tricky one, isn't it, abortion?— it's such a tricky one, isn't it, abortion? because we pretend like it, abortion? because we pretend ttte ._ it, abortion? because we pretend ttte . teen— it, abortion? because we pretend ttte . ne— it, abortion? because we pretend like i mean, we have a fairly tnnettenet— like i mean, we have a fairly functional system the functional system in the uk, tneettt— functional system in the uk, broadly—doesn'tl broadly speaking. it doesn't eense—tte- broadly speaking. it doesn't. arouse—the same arouse anything like the same set— arouse anything like the same set et— arouse anything like the same sort of divisive— arouse anything like the same sort of divisive you. to sort of divisive you. no, i tte— sort of divisive you. no, i mean, it's such america, it's such emotive issue. but it is such an emotive issue. but it is i mean, it's emotive— such an emotive issue. but it is i mean, it's emotive-a- at a“ tzinitt. but it is i mean, it's emotive a very i mean, it's emotive for a very etvtens— i mean, it's emotive for a very obvious reason— i mean, it's emotive for a very obvious reason because, you knew.— obvious reason because, you knew. et— obvious reason because, you knew. et-netnt- obvious reason because, you know, at point you've know, at this point you've testeettt— know, at this point you've basically-can- know, at this point you've basically can only know, at this point you've - basically-can only guess basically and you can only guess ttet—ttet— basically and you can only guess ttet—ttet tes- basically and you can only guess that—that has gone. basically and you can only guess that that has gone to that the woman that has gone to ttese— that the woman that has gone to ttese-te— that the woman that has gone to ttese-telttts- that the woman that has gone to these -to .this and - these lengths to do this and yes,— these lengths to do this and yes. ste-s— these lengths to do this and yes, she's broken the law the yes, she's broken the law in the nntes— yes, she's broken the law in the nntes tn— yes, she's broken the law in the nntes tn nteee— yes, she's broken the law in the rules in place for— yes, she's broken the law in the rules in place for reason rules in place for a reason tense— rules in place for a reason teeenselten- rules in place for a reason because you know, birth do because of, you know, birth do teeenne— because of, you know, birth do teeene-tnt— because of, you know, birth do become - but was - because of, you know, birth do become-but was it. because of, you know, birth do. become-but was it under become viable. but was it under it is thing where you kind it is that thing where you kind of it should be i don't know of go it should be i don't know where where jail sentences come in. did happen. if you in. to me, it did happen. if you if you're killing if— in. to me, it did happen. if you if you're killing if you're- in. to me, it did happen. if you if you're killing if you're if- if you're killing if you're if tt-s— if you're killing if you're if tt-s e— if you're killing if you're if it's a human— if you're killing if you're if it's a human that can survive, tente— it's a human that can survive, ten-ne-ennten- it's a human that can survive, ten-ne-nnnten - it's a human that can survive, you're-murder. so. you're that is murder. so ttet-s. — you're that is murder. so that's. yeah,— you're that is murder. so that's. yeah, you- you're that is murder. so that's. yeah, you can- you're that is murder. so that's. yeah, you can you can you can argue what weeks where it becomes obviously it becomes murder and obviously certain people any point certain people say at any point but 32 to weeks but when it's 32 to 34 weeks i mean there's no other argument exactly it's a viable exactly it's a very viable birth. but mean, i have i do birth. but i mean, i have i do neve— birth. but i mean, i have i do teve synnetty— birth. but i mean, i have i do have sympathy as— but i mean, i have i do have sympathy as well. it's verve— have sympathy as well. it's very,-difficult- have sympathy as well. it's

very, difficult case very, very difficult case tense— very, very difficult case because-has- very, very difficult case because has essentially because she has essentially transgressed _ because she has essentially transgressed sort of transgressed a sort of understood.- understood. yes no taboo. as tenet— understood. yes no taboo. as tenet-tente— understood. yes no taboo. as much-you're saying- understood. yes no taboo. as much iyou're saying it- understood. yes no taboo. as much you're saying it is much as you're saying it is murder murder in the court murder and murder in the court of a lot of of law. but again, a lot of people there are mitigating factors against murder and factors as against murder and certainly ill health, certainly mental ill health, which clearly . yeah, yeah. which is clearly. yeah, yeah. she obviously felt ti" tc.“ c “421?" “421?" she obviously felt desperate ti" tc.“ c i/tzita“ i/tzita“ she obviously felt desperate to do she obviously felt desperate to tte-its— she obviously felt desperate to te-tt-s e— she obviously felt desperate to te-tt-s e ven- she obviously felt desperate to do it's a very she's do it. and it's a very sad she's got— do it. and it's a very sad she's get inte— do it. and it's a very sad she's get into ttet— do it. and it's a very sad she's got into that position and she's tet— got into that position and she's net-etvtee— got into that position and she's had-advice from - got into that position and she's had advice from bypass had terrible advice from bypass and had terrible advice from bypass ene—sent- had terrible advice from bypass ene—sent ten| and terrible that they sent her ttese— and terrible that they sent her these -without _ and terrible that they sent her these without checking. by and terrible that they sent her therway, without checking. by and terrible that they sent her therway, theythout checking. by and terrible that they sent her therway, they didn't:hecking. by and terrible that they sent her therway, they didn't do :king. by and terrible that they sent her therway, they didn't do any|. by and terrible that they sent her therway, they didn't do any kind the way, they didn't do any kind of examination.— the way, they didn't do any kind of examination. they just sent tten — of examination. they just sent tten tn— of examination. they just sent tten tn tte— of examination. they just sent them in the post. ”it; them in the post. so you're nett— them in the post. so you're right. mean, the guardian have right. i mean, the guardian have framed as though framed it very much as though this this is outrageous this is this is an outrageous sentencing thing. but i think it's carry a certain it's going to carry a certain amount population amount of the population with it. no, absolutely. it. and yeah, no, absolutely. ant— it. and yeah, no, absolutely. ant-net— it. and yeah, no, absolutely. ant-net get- it. and yeah, no, absolutely. and-not get any- . ' “c yeah, no, absolutely. and not get any there it. and yeah, no, absolutely.- and-not get any there are and bypass not get any there are no repercussions— and bypass not get any there are no repercussions them in no repercussions for them in teens— no repercussions for them in teens-ttet-ve- no repercussions for them in terms they've just terms of that they've just netteet— terms of that they've just medical malpractice. yeah. no ttet—tneni they certainly should be from ttts— they certainly should be from this. - doesn't— they certainly should be from this. - doesn't seem - they certainly should be from this. ct“ . .“ti.ii they certainly should be from this. ct“ . this. it doesn't seem there is but yeah they should definitely they largely, say, equally they are largely, i say, equally responsible at least. yeah. they are largely, i say, equally resp0iit'sle at least. yeah. they are largely, i say, equally resp0iit's like least. yeah. they are largely, i say, equally resp0iit's like handing eah. they are largely, i say, equally resp0iit's like handing someone well, it's like handing someone a well, it's like handing someone e—veet.- well, it's like handing someone e—veet. nett- a gun isn't it? yeah. well, assisted suicide discussion going on in the similar sort of frame, times. frame, possibly financial times. jojo the front jojo berlusconi on the front page there. yeah. i don't quite get ttts. —

page there. yeah. i don't quite get ttts. ._ page there. yeah. i don't quite get this. i need— page there. yeah. i don't quite get this. i need my— cg ”t.“tii; i/tita“ i don't quite get this. i need my glasses tense— get this. i need my glasses because this— get this. i need my glasses because this is— get this. i need my glasses because this is small print and teeter.— because this is small print and depher. berlusconi dies at 86, teevtng— depher. berlusconi dies at 86, teettng tig— depher. berlusconi dies at 86, leaving big questions for tennis— leaving big questions for melonis right— leaving big questions for melonis right wing coalition. ent— melonis right wing coalition. tnt ttene-s— melonis right wing coalition. but there's big— melonis right wing coalition. but there's big questions about tentnseent — but there's big questions about berlusconi at— but there's big questions about berlusconi at the— but there's big questions about berlusconi at the time and has you— berlusconi at the time and has you knew.— berlusconi at the time and has ten knew. teen— berlusconi at the time and has you know, been premier, been jailedt— you know, been premier, been jailedt teen— you know, been premier, been jailed, been found to be, you knew.— jailed, been found to be, you knew. eennnt— jailed, been found to be, you know, corrupt ._ jailed, been found to be, you know, corrupt . and so in terms know, corrupt. and so in terms of know, corrupt. and so in terms et e— know, corrupt. and so in terms et e tntnete— know, corrupt. and so in terms of a member of— know, corrupt. and so in terms of a member of her coalition, as snet.— of a member of her coalition, as snet. te— of a member of her coalition, as such, was he at— of a member of her coalition, as such, was he at that— of a member of her coalition, as such, was he at that point he's teen— such, was he at that point he's teen retiree— such, was he at that point he's been retired now,— such, was he at that point he's been retired now, wasn't he? ti; been retired now, wasn't he? he pett— been retired now, wasn't he? he pent et— been retired now, wasn't he? he pent et tte— been retired now, wasn't he? he was part of the meloni- was part of the meloni coalition. but i don't know how active he was, but he certainly was until very recently, he had he a party with he was leading a party with within the coalition. he he was part of melonis coalition, wasn't his party. right wasn't he? his his party. right okay. oh, i didn't realise that. net.— okay. oh, i didn't realise that. net. se— okay. oh, i didn't realise that. net. se wett— okay. oh, i didn't realise that. god. 86 well that's encouraging for god. 86 well that's encouraging tee ttten— god. 86 well that's encouraging for biden then,— god. 86 well that's encouraging for biden then, isn't it. yeah. teen.— for biden then, isn't it. yeah. teen. teen— for biden then, isn't it. yeah. teen. teen tt— for biden then, isn't it. yeah. yeah, yeah it is— for biden then, isn't it. yeah. yeah, yeah it is biden. ti; yeah, yeah it is biden. he's i mean he's sort— yeah, yeah it is biden. he's i mean he's sort of— yeah, yeah it is biden. he's i mean he's sort of i mean look, the guardian were trying to call him a proto trump. i think the fairly superficial comparison, mainly level of tan, think mainly the level of tan, i think is they've gone with. is what they've gone with. i don't thompson don't i think thompson more serious despite serious figure despite superficialities i agree but i have always said possibly this

is getting into is i might be getting into hot water myself. i've always ttengtt— water myself. i've always thought-that's- i've always thought that's what water myself. i've always- thought-that's what foxes thought that that's what foxes petite— people with trump is that he tsets— people with trump is that he teets tite— people with trump is that he teets ttte e— people with trump is that he looks like a convention all nettetn— looks like a convention all northern european politician but he northern european politician but te teteves— northern european politician but he behaves more— northern european politician but he behaves more like a southern tnteeeen— he behaves more like a southern european politician. you know, te-s— european politician. you know, te-s nnet— european politician. you know, he's much more— european politician. you know, he's much more in the berlusconi mete.— he's much more in the berlusconi tneenest- e. you- he's much more in the berlusconi mode. was a, you know, mode. or if he was a, you know, a mode. or if he was a, you know, e tet— mode. or if he was a, you know, a hot blooded— mode. or if he was a, you know, a hot blooded spaniard , people a hot blooded spaniard, people tente— a hot blooded spaniard, people nentt-eeeeet- a hot blooded spaniard, people would-accept that- a hot blooded spaniard, people would accept that the would probably accept that the but would probably accept that the tnt tn— would probably accept that the tnt tn net— would probably accept that the but i'm not quite— would probably accept that the but i'm not quite sure grades. snee— but i'm not quite sure grades. snne. tnte. — but i'm not quite sure grades. sure, dude. big— but i'm not quite sure grades. sure, dude. tcg c but i'm not quite sure grades. sure, dude. itcg c sure, dude. big question for melonis coalition now yeah melonis coalition now but yeah he's so that's quite funny. he's gone so that's quite funny. they talk about sort of inviting ests— they talk about sort of inviting ests te— they talk about sort of inviting ests te tis— they talk about sort of inviting escorts to his parties, mad nettes— escorts to his parties, mad parties, outrageous parties, all his outrageous tetevtenn — parties, all his outrageousi behaviour. _ says parties, all his outrageous- behaviour._says but behaviour. and then it says but ttene— behaviour. and then it says but ttene-e— behaviour. and then it says but there-a darker— behaviour. and then it says but there a darker side . what there was a darker side. what tt— there was a darker side. what it e— there was a darker side. what was it ? that's— there was a darker side. what was it ? that's already the bad was it? that's already the bad stntte — was it? that's already the bad stntte wett— was it? that's already the bad stuff? well, i— was it? that's already the bad stuff? �*tit�*tit.. was it? that's already the bad stuff? well, i suppose the darker side is actual corruption rather than just sort of jacuzzi parties. yeah i mean, it's all parties. yeah i mean, it's all part of the mix, isn't it? but so is the question. they're saying whether because he's not somebody else that will lead the coalition and that will i think i think throws off a very delicate coalition because, you know, italy's all about delicate coalition you've got 13 parliamentary- coalition you've got 13. parliamentary-it's parliamentary parties. it's a geet— parliamentary parties. it's a geet gnestten— parliamentary parties. it's a good question for people who

—etl seem to be terribly fond of eneeettenet— seem to be terribly fond of proportional representation as bringing— proportional representation as bringing stability and bringing in more stability and tnnettenet— bringing in more stability and functional government, because i just functional government, because i inst—netsenettt- functional government, because i just—personally and. just don't buy it personally and for just don't buy it personally and tee-ttts— just don't buy it personally and for-this kind— just don't buy it personally and for-this kind of- just don't buy it personally and for this kind of reason, for exactly this kind of reason, i for exactly this kind of reason, i tttnt— for exactly this kind of reason, i think they'll— for exactly this kind of reason, i think they'll find way i think they'll find a way eennt— i think they'll find a way eennt it.— i think they'll find a way around it. i— i think they'll find a way around it. i sort of agree, ttengt— around it. i sort of agree, ttengt.|nes— around it. i sort of agree, though.iwas-to| around it. i sort of agree,- though.iwas-to richard though. i was talking to richard nee—nt- though. i was talking to richard nee—ti neteestl tice about this on my podcast ent— tice about this on my podcast ene-sett— tice about this on my podcast and-said that— tice about this on my podcast and said that actually most and he said that actually most neteest. — and he said that actually most neteest. teet— and he said that actually most podcast. yeah it's— and he said that actually most podcast. yeah it's very good. test.— podcast. yeah it's very good. . ttestt—teve most, most countries don't have our most, most countries don't have ene-et— most, most countries don't have ene-oi ense- most, most countries don't have our-of course, first- our system. of course, first test— our system. of course, first past-apparenfliil our system. of course, first. past-apparently us our system. of course, first- past-apparently us and past the post, apparently us and teens— past the post, apparently us and belarus,.we're_ past the post, apparently us and belarus, we're used to it. belarus, so we're used to it. ent— belarus, so we're used to it.j tnt—tnteee belarus, so we're used to it.- tnt—tnteee tes but most, you know, europe has eneeettenet— proportional representation, pretenti— proportional representation, probably twinning probably have some twinning exercises with— probably have some twinning exercises with belarus. that's constituencies— exercises with belarus. that's constituencies the daily star to finish off. yeah this is the big one. this is for you. yeah ufo crest— one. this is for you. yeah ufo crash hushed up by pope. and i for one, am sick of this kind of corruption, so i don't have the full story here. but i tell full story here. but i can tell you that a ufo that crashed in italy years ago. italy almost 100 years ago. berlusconi may be involved with this hushed by this as well. was hushed up by none than the pope, says this as well. was hushed up by n0ius than the pope, says this as well. was hushed up by n0ius air than the pope, says this as well. was hushed up by n0ius air forcei the pope, says this as well. was hushed up by n0ius air force intelligence ays ex us air force intelligence chief. and they've with et chief. and they've gone with et phone and you can see what phone rome and you can see what they've there. they've sort they've gone there. they've sort of worked in the picture of et and pope's hat, and that's and a pope's hat, and that's essentially is not, essentially it. so is there not, though, without full answer, though, without the full answer, we know how went.

we don't know how deep it went. what was the pope doing? have what was the pope doing? i have 1 friends who have bit 1 or 2 friends who have got bit of interest this kind of of an interest in this kind of stuff. you know, i know my eyes. teen.— stuff. you know, i know my eyes. teen. net— stuff. you know, i know my eyes. teen. net tte— stuff. you know, i know my eyes. yeah, not the pope,— you know, i know my eyes. yeah, not the pope, but you ttet— yeah, not the pope, but you knew. tite— yeah, not the pope, but you know, ufo stuff.— yeah, not the pope, but you know, ufo stuff. but there have teen— know, ufo stuff. but there have been some revelations lately ttet— been some revelations latelyi ttet—tettet that have been slightly harder to that have been slightly harder te—es— that have been slightly harder te—es ne- that have been slightly harder te—es ne et- that have been slightly harder te—es ne et en that have been slightly harderi to_as up at a bank. to just dismiss as up at a bank. on.— to just dismiss as up at a bank. on. teet- — to just dismiss as up at a bank. on. teen. ten.— to just dismiss as up at a bank. oh, yeah. well, this- to just dismiss as up at a bank. oh, yeah. well, this seems to be the new. distraction, the new. the new distraction, doesn't that the aliens are doesn't it? that the aliens are beginning to land? you think it's psyop? well. well, i it's a psyop? well. well, i don't know what it is, but it seems very clumsy for advanced unabomber. advanced or unabomber. for advanced human or advanced technology and everything here everything to come over here and just up. just absolutely muck it up. yeah. turn. there's a lot yeah. every turn. there's a lot the pentagon is saying great. are they right? the pentagon are settng—tnetetl saying they have ufos. tucker eettsen— saying they have ufos. tucker. centsen—eeeete carlson says ex—military people neve— carlson says ex—military people teve-tten— carlson says ex—military people have -them that. _ carlson says ex—military people have them that. and you've have told them that. and you've got have told them that. and you've get-evttenee. — have told them that. and you've got evidence. you've got all this evidence. you've got— got all this evidence. you've got documentary, got bob lazar documentary, very eenvtnetng— got bob lazar documentary, very convincing—time,- convincing. at the same time, tte— convincing. at the same time, tte teet— convincing. at the same time, the fact that— convincing. at the same time, the fact that government the fact that the government is settng — the fact that the government is settng -stete - the fact that the government is saying state makes you saying it or the state makes you tttnt— saying it or the state makes you tttnt tt-s— saying it or the state makes you tttnt its net— saying it or the state makes you think it's not true— saying it or the state makes you think it's not true immediately, i think it's not true immediately, t tente— think it's not true immediately, t tent-ttet- think it's not true immediately, i would-know-is. i would like to know what is going— i would like to know what is getng—ett- i would like to know what is getng—ett tet- i would like to know what isi going—all for this going on. that's all for this section. join us part two. we section. join us in part two. we will sturgeon roar. getting

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news radio. and welcome back to headliners. i'm simon evans. i'm tenet— headliners. i'm simon evans. i'm tetnet tt— headliners. i'm simon evans. i'm tetnet ti get-e— c i'm simon evans. i'm joined by jojo sutherland and ttet— joined by jojo sutherland and ttet ninet— joined by jojo sutherland and nick dixon. and— joined by jojo sutherland and nick dixon. and we kick off part tte.— nick dixon. and we kick off part tne. get-e— nick dixon. and we kick off part tne. joj'o titt— nick dixon. and we kick off part two. jojo with cranky news. the independent— two. jojo with cranky news. the independent says— two. jojo with cranky news. the independent says nicola sturgeon will independent says nicola sturgeon nttt net— independent says nicola sturgeon nttt net te— independent says nicola sturgeon will not be suspended despite ttet— will not be suspended despite ttet tetng— will not be suspended despite that being her— will not be suspended despite that being her favourite treat. ves— that being her favourite treat. tes tetneen— that being her favourite treat. yes between the— that being her favourite treat. yes between the arms of two gtenn — yes between the arms of two gnetn eeente— yes between the arms of two grown people. you mean like when you grown people. you mean like when yen exetetn— grown people. you mean like when you explain that?— grown people. you mean like when you explain that? _ grown people. you mean like when you explain that? i— grown people. you mean like when you explain that? tcgtitt. . you explain that? i got it. veet. — you explain that? i got it. teen. teen— you explain that? i got it. yeah. yeah you got to explain a joke. it's not funny. it's a visual. really? no, i know. its.— visual. really? no, i know. it's. yes. saint nicola or chief mammy, as she was calling herself throughout the pandemic and her fall from grace . it's and her fall from grace. it's what i love about things like this is when operation branchform is what it was called. and i don't know, it's all about some caravan. she's bought a motorhome or the luxury caravan luxury . yeah. but you caravan luxury. yeah. but you know, i mean there's a camper van or motorhome every luxury in scotland. yeah yeah. a roof over your head is luxury in scotland. and so it's the thing is whether she should lose the party whip

and. yes and i think it's been said before and you know, she was very keen and she has always been, you know, to tick everybody off and tell them what to do and remove the party whip left, right and centre. yeah. and it is traditional when. veet. — and it is traditional when.- yeah. _michelle and it is traditional when.- yeahleaves-michelle and it is traditional when. yeahleaves they, michelle and it is traditional when. yeahleaves they, they/iichelle and it is traditional when. yeahleaves they, they are elle snp leaves they, they are tested— snp leaves they, they are arrested -then - snp leaves they, they are arrested then they . yes. arrested and then they. yes. ves— arrested and then they. yes. yes tt— arrested and then they. yes. yes it ettets— arrested and then they. yes. yes it always happens. - arrested and then they. yes. yes it always happens. yeah. yeah. no is. yeah. no yeah. yeah. no it is. yeah. no it she's just following in it is. she's just following in her predecessor's footsteps. it's you know we it's kind of, you know we started so. yeah. i'm dying started it so. yeah. i'm dying to know what usaaf's going to get keep calling him get off. i keep keep calling him yusuf islam . that's cat stevens, yusuf islam. that's cat stevens, tsn-t— yusuf islam. that's cat stevens, tsn-t tte— yusuf islam. that's cat stevens, tsn-t tte te— yusuf islam. that's cat stevens, tsn-t tte te te— yusuf islam. that's cat stevens, isn't it? to be very— its; that's cat stevens, isn't it? to be very careful, nnnze— isn't it? to be very careful, nnnze-nte- isn't it? to be very careful, humza _who la . isn't it? to be very careful, humza _who la i i isn't it? to be very careful,- humza-whola i mean, humza yousaf, who is a i mean, te-s— humza yousaf, who is a i mean, te-s gntte— humza yousaf, who is a i mean, te-s gntte te— humza yousaf, who is a i mean, he's quite he came— humza yousaf, who is a i mean, he's quite he came in initially . tte— he's quite he came in initially . tte tet— he's quite he came in initially . tte tet e— he's quite he came in initially . we had a sort— he's quite he came in initially . we had a sort of— he's quite he came in initially . we had a sort of sense of him being— . we had a sort of sense of him tetng e— . we had a sort of sense of him tetng e sttgttty— . we had a sort of sense of him being a slightly overly keen set— being a slightly overly keen set et— being a slightly overly keen sort of policing— being a slightly overly keen sort of policing language, that tint— sort of policing language, that ttnt et— sort of policing language, that ttnt et tttng— sort of policing language, that kind of thing. but i don't think he kind of thing. but i don't think te es— kind of thing. but i don't think te gntte— kind of thing. but i don't think he was quite braced for this was tee— he was quite braced for this was tee ttts— he was quite braced for this was tee ttts ts— he was quite braced for this was he? this is this— he was quite braced for this was he? this is this is— he was quite braced for this was he? this is this is unexpected tetttet. — he? this is this is unexpected tetttet. tt— he? this is this is unexpected territory. it is. _ he? this is this is unexpected territory. it is. it's- he? this is this is unexpected territory. . . c he? this is this is unexpected territory. . c territory. it is. it's back to the old unpressed. but it is it? and i think because i think there's, again, such a division in scotland, people who absolutely worship the ground

that nicola sturgeon walks on and people that are just sick to death of her and it is that thing you kind of go, oh, thing where you kind of go, oh, you know, it too much. it's you know, it is too much. it's a bit much, isn't it? just can somebody some leaders just somebody can some leaders just not things that warrant that? not do things that warrant that? you get arrested for it? i have i mean, it's a it's /titt. tcgtit. : .7 i have i mean, it's a it's obviously an engetng— i mean, it's a it's obviously an ongoing investigation. we have to ongoing investigation. we have telvet— ongoing investigation. we have telvet eenetnt— ongoing investigation. we have to .very careful.-bel to be very careful. and to be tenest.— to be very careful. and to be tenestt-tt— to be very careful. and to be honest,-it apart,- to be very careful. and to be honest, it apart, apart honest, peeling it apart, apart ten— honest, peeling it apart, apart. from—schadenfreude from the obvious schadenfreude of from the obvious schadenfreude et-tet— from the obvious schadenfreude of-her-arrested. from the obvious schadenfreudei of-her-arrested and of watching her get arrested and so of watching her get arrested and se-tes— of watching her get arrested and se-tes teen— of watching her get arrested and so has been released so on, she has been released ntttent— so on, she has been released without charge,— so on, she has been released without charge, without charge. so on, she has been released witiahead arge, without charge. so on, she has been released witiaheadargit. ithout charge. so on, she has been released witiahead argit. '..ut charge. so on, she has been released witiahead argit. harge. so on, she has been released witiahead argit. hargtitagt get ahead of it. all we can say is that they dug up her gun and they found dangerous levels of hubris. that's all but dangerous quantities. but the problem there of boxes. just there was lots of boxes. just before i in this, there was lots of boxes. just before i-in.this, the. before i get in on this, the enetten — before i get in on this, the problem that— before i get in on this, the problem that i— before i get in on this, the problem that i have the sense ttet— problem that i have the sense ttet t— problem that i have the sense ttet t neve— problem that i have the sense that i have in— problem that i have the sense that i have in scotland is not inst— that i have in scotland is not inst ttet.— that i have in scotland is not inst ttet. es— that i have in scotland is not just that, as you— that i have in scotland is not just that, as you she's just that, as you say, she's ttvtstve— just that, as you say, she's divisive love— just that, as you say, she's divisive love or— just that, as you say, she's divisive love or hate marmite, tent— divisive love or hate marmite, tnt-stete— divisive love or hate marmite, but-state was- divisive love or hate marmite, but-state was it- divisive love or hate marmite, but state was it had but but the state was it had ttet— but but the state was it had ttet tint— but but the state was it had that kind of— but but the state was it had that kind of smack of north tene— that kind of smack of north korea—nobody. that kind of smack of north- korea_nobody could korea about it like nobody could stee— korea about it like nobody could step-et— korea about it like nobody could step-et tine— korea about it like nobody could step .of line the _ korea about it like nobody could step of line the whole of step out of line the whole of tte— step out of line the whole of tte et— step out of line the whole of tte et tte— step out of line the whole of the of the system the establishment much more sewn up ttet— establishment much more sewn up ttet-tn— establishment much more sewn up than-in western. _ establishment much more sewn up than in western. i/tita“ establishment much more sewn up than in western. / than it is in western. yeah it's horrendous. and i don't see how she's staying because boris has gone reasons i don't totally

gone for reasons i don't totally even understand, whereas is having seven having these seven hour interrogations police interrogations by the police now, innocent now, of course, innocent until proven but it is amazing proven guilty, but it is amazing she's already imploded she's she's already imploded even this. trans even before this. the trans policies would policies alone would be enough to her, i would say. to get rid of her, i would say. and it did seem to be. but then if you look at the fact that michelle thomson in 2015 had to give the whip, was give up the whip, so she was investigated. and so, yeah, and teen.— investigated. and so, yeah, and yeaht .— investigated. and so, yeah, and teen. t teen— investigated. and so, yeah, and yeah, i mean, not— investigated. and so, yeah, and yeah, i mean, not to— cg: and so, yeah, and yeah, i mean, not to say that ste— yeah, i mean, not to say that ste ws— yeah, i mean, not to say that she was never— yeah, i mean, not to say that she was never personally under tnwesttgetten— she was never personally under investigation certainly investigation and was certainly not investigation and was certainly net—se— investigation and was certainly net—se west-t- investigation and was certainly. not—so wasn't-as not arrested. so wasn't even as bad. yes, she was— not arrested. t“ . t“ itac yes, she was accused of bad. yes, she was accused of etwtenstw— itac yes, she was accused of obviously limitation, bad. yes, she was accused of. obviously-limitation, but obviously damage limitation, but i obviously damage limitation, but t—te— obviously damage limitation, but t—te - obviously damage limitation, but i_be over. nick- i think it may be over. nick te— i think it may be over. nick over to .times- i think it may be over. nick over to times now. a great over to the times now. a great new solution to gp new solution to the gp bottleneck. reroute phone bottleneck. reroute that's phone calls the hospital instead. calls to the hospital instead. yeah. so ambulance team to yeah. so it's ambulance team to enswensnten—gesl yeah. so it's ambulance team to answer—surgeries inj answer phone for gp surgeries in ttet.— answer phone for gp surgeries in pilot—ambulance. pilot. so basically ambulance enters.— pilot. so basically ambulance drivers,-their- pilot. so basically ambulance drivers, _their job - pilot. so basically ambulance drivers, their job is drivers, it's not theirjob is net— drivers, it's not theirjob is net tent— drivers, it's not theirjob is not hard enough. so they'll just be ttet-tt— not hard enough. so they'll just be ttew-tt te— not hard enough. so they'll just be they'll be .time- be they'll be part time receptionist,- be they'll be part time receptionist, just answering be they'll be part time- recephone,t,-just answering be they'll be part time recephone,t, nursesinswering be they'll be part time recephone,t, nursesinswerithe the phone, the nurses taking the eetts— the phone, the nurses taking the eetts-tt-s— the phone, the nurses taking the eetts-tt-s net— the phone, the nurses taking the calls it's not actually calls in the it's not actually entntenee— calls in the it's not actually ambulance drivers is it. / ambulance drivers is it. yeah, i tttnt— ambulance drivers is it. yeah, i tttnt tte— ambulance drivers is it. yeah, i tttnt tt-s .— ambulance drivers is it. yeah, i think it's i think it's absolutely misleading, isn't it? so services so basically it's services to switchboard , it's the call switchboard, it's the call handlers that have already. handlers that you have already. my handlers that you have already. my concern is that they're tettenet — my concern is that they're hardened ambulance people. so

ttet-tt— hardened ambulance people. so ttew-tt te— hardened ambulance people. so ttew-tt te tte.— hardened ambulance people. so they'll be like, is— hardened ambulance people. so they'll be like, is anything tetttng— they'll be like, is anything falling off?— they'll be like, is anything falling off? well, then why are you— falling off? well, then why are you eetttnge— falling off? well, then why are you calling? you _ falling off? well, then why are you calling? you what you calling? you know what i meet— you calling? you know what i mean? broken _ you calling? you know what i mean? broken tcgtitt. you calling? you know what i- mean? broken _got a sore mean? broken you've got a sore throat. your mean? broken you've got a sore throat. .your-are- throat. is your colour, are ttewe — throat. is your colour, are they? _exactly. - throat. is your colour, are they? _exactly. andi throat. is your colour, are. they? _exactly. and if they? yeah, exactly. and if you're blue answering phone you're blue answering the phone while ambulance, while driving an ambulance, that's an offence. they have obviously like enormous , uh, obviously got like enormous, uh, problems the. problems at the moment with the. i very difficult to i mean it's very difficult to tell i'm 58. i've just tell because i'm 58. i've just reached that where you start reached that age where you start to nhs a bit more to use the nhs a bit more regularly. do wonder regularly. so i do wonder sometimes of sometimes i've come out of the pandemic and i've seemed to have, know, i've seemed to pandemic and i've seemed to haiencountered. i've seemed to pandemic and i've seemed to haiencountered. the seemed to pandemic and i've seemed to haiencountered. the realityd to pandemic and i've seemed to haiencountered. the reality ofo be encountered. the reality of the a little bit more the gp surgery a little bit more than i ever did beforehand. interestingly, the system is ttttetent— interestingly, the system is different in— interestingly, the system is different in scotland because ttet—tte- different in scotland becausei they—the system they have changed the system now and they have changed the system now enseet-n— they have changed the system now enseet-n te— they have changed the system now and-seem to work- they have changed the system now and seem to work that and it does seem to work that ttts— and it does seem to work that ttts tte— and it does seem to work that ttts tte ttt— and it does seem to work that this the 111 service, there's a tte—s- this the 111 service, there's a tte—s enel this the 111 service, there's a- one_is one number one number, there is one number ttet—wen- one number, there is one number ttet—wen e- one number, there is one number ttet—wen e ttnel that then allocates you a time to that then allocates you a time telte— that then allocates you a time telte tesettet— that then allocates you a time to.to hospital and- that then allocates you a time to to hospital and it does to go to hospital and it does te— to go to hospital and it does te te— to go to hospital and it does seem to be people will learn to new— seem to be people will learn to tew- — seem to be people will learn to tew- its— seem to be people will learn to how- it's-when. seem to be people will learn to. how- it's-when you how game it. it's like when you ring and you if you just want ring up and you if you just want to find out whether you can upgrade your phone. but what you have do, first all, is say have to do, first of all, is say that you're leaving. yeah, yeah. so pretend. and also so you have to pretend. and also the 111 call centre,— so you have to pretend. and also the 111 call centre, they- : and also the 111 call centre, they ask you— the 111 call centre, they ask you tttngs— the 111 call centre, they ask you things like,— the 111 call centre, they ask you things like, are you

breathing?— you things like, are you breathing? yeah and so be breathing? yeah and so it'll be gntte—te- breathing? yeah and so it'll be gntte—te get- breathing? yeah and so it'll be gntte—te get tt| quite a long process to get it stit— quite a long process to get it sttttltettng— quite a long process to get it still taking ages. t still be taking ages. remember wten— still be taking ages. remember when our babies were when we when our babies were little we used to ring them little and we used to ring them up kate was up every time? kate was unbelievable was like, unbelievable and it was like, oh, looking slightly oh, he's looking slightly flushed, you know? yeah, looks a bit flushed, you know? yeah, looks a ttt geeky.— flushed, you know? yeah, looks a ttt teen. teen— flushed, you know? yeah, looks a ttt teen. teen — flushed, you know? yeah, looks a bit peaky. yeah guardian now, nick, women worried about nick, women are worried about the but it's not james the new bond, but it's not james bond. the baby bond. bond. sadly, it's the baby bond. oh, oh, fair enough oh, okay. oh, yeah, fair enough -_0h,_ oh, okay. oh, yeah, fair enough .—ot. wen- oh, okay. oh, yeah, fair enoughi ._oh, you've jumped. . so jump. oh, you've jumped. we'll jump on that. we just we'll do jump on that. we just got rid of the .. ctitt titt“ we just got rid of the menopause. well done,— got rid of the menopause. well do... wen. — got rid of the menopause. well to... ten se— got rid of the menopause. well done, you. so this— got rid of the menopause. well done, you. so this is more than 1 in 10 women struggle to bond with their baby. and i'd to 1 in 10 women struggle to bond witithetir baby. and i'd to 1 in 10 women struggle to bond witithe incidence nd i'd to 1 in 10 women struggle to bond witithe incidence of i'd to 1 in 10 women struggle to bond witithe incidence of psychopaths see the incidence of psychopaths in country. i'm just in the country. i'm just kidding. i'm sure it's a very serious thing. is. it does. kidding. i'm sure it's a very sesoundsiing. is. it does. kidding. i'm sure it's a very se sounds unfortunate does. kidding. i'm sure it's a very sesounds unfortunate because, it sounds unfortunate because, yeah, that, yeah, they're worried that, oh, i bonding with my baby i should be bonding with my baby and i'm not for some reason. and apparently common apparently it's more common than we it's well, it's 1 in we think. it's well, it's 1 in 10, it says there. and yeah, 10, as it says there. and yeah, i that's pretty much i mean that's that's pretty much the they're that the story they're saying that it's, you know, there needs to be help for women checking be more help for women checking in, checking in with in, you know, checking in with them. like your baby. and them. yeah. like your baby. and they're not they're going, well, i'm not sure how feel about it. sure how i feel about it. i mean, again, it's funny i should

mention it. maybe was mention it. maybe i was pre—programmed- . maybe i was pre—programmed myself there. but i pre—programmed myself there. but t—tet— pre—programmed myself there. but t—tet w-wee- pre—programmed myself there. but t—tet tet| i do remember we had we've had twe— i do remember we had we've had twe-wns— i do remember we had we've had twe-wns tn— i do remember we had we've had two nhs in lambeth as it two kids, nhs in lambeth as it wes-t— two kids, nhs in lambeth as it wes-t tttnt- two kids, nhs in lambeth as it was-i think it- two kids, nhs in lambeth as it was-i think it was. was then, and i think it was pretty— was then, and i think it was pretty geeet— was then, and i think it was pretty geet. t— was then, and i think it was pretty good. i seem to remember gntte— pretty good. i seem to remember gntteltet— pretty good. i seem to remember gntteltet et— pretty good. i seem to remember gntteltet et-et— pretty good. i seem to remember quite lot of of emotional quite a lot of sort of emotional tetng.— quite a lot of sort of emotional tetng. eteets— quite a lot of sort of emotional being. checks were being done, tenttng— being. checks were being done, bonding-babies.- being. checks were being done, bonding-babies..is- bonding with babies. is, is senetttng— bonding with babies. is, is something-a- bonding with babies. is, is something a weird something that's a bit weird tense— something that's a bit weird because-always. something that's a bit weird- because-always happen because it doesn't always happen tnnettetetw— because it doesn't always happen immediately-part- immediately and it's part of thei teesen—geet reason why breastfeeding is good if reason why breastfeeding is good tt-te— reason why breastfeeding is good tt-te it.— reason why breastfeeding is good tt-te tt. i— reason why breastfeeding is good tt-te tt. i te— reason why breastfeeding is good if do it. i do remember if you can do it. i do remember ttet.— if you can do it. i do remember ttet. ent— if you can do it. i do remember ttet. tnt t— if you can do it. i do remember that. but i also— if you can do it. i do remember that. but i also think that's tte— that. but i also think that's tte ete— that. but i also think that's the old oxytocin_ that. but i also think that's the old oxytocin flowing. i tttnt— the old oxytocin flowing. i think we're— the old oxytocin flowing. i think we're bad as parents think we're quite bad as parents ttet— think we're quite bad as parents ttet-tet— think we're quite bad as parents that-had children- think we're quite bad as parents that had children by going, that have had children by going, oh, that have had children by going, een—ttet- that have had children by going, een—ttet een| oh, it's the best thing that can eweten—w- oh, it's the best thing that can ewenen—w tnewi oh, it's the best thing that can. ever—you know, so i ever happen. and you know, so i think sometimes people do feel this pressure that you absolutely have instantly absolutely have to instantly fall your child. fall in love with your child. and it doesn't necessarily happen. for fathers, happen. but for fathers, difficult birth usually happen for ever. for 15, 20 years, if ever. let's back to the for 15, 20 years, if ever. - let's-back to the menopause. let's go back to the menopause. tte— let's go back to the menopause. tte tn.eneensee— let's go back to the menopause. the menopause. the menopause. you the menopause. the menopause. ven netw— the menopause. the menopause. ten new ete— the menopause. the menopause. you really are trying— the menopause. the menopause. you really are trying to— the menopause. the menopause. you really are trying to-rid- the menopause. the menopause. yo it,eally are trying to-rid- the menopause. the menopause. yo it, aren't re trying to-rid- the menopause. the menopause. yo it, aren't you?ing to-rid- the menopause. the menopause. yo it, aren't you? well, .rid- the menopause. the menopause. of it, aren't you? well, it's one those stories, again, one of those stories, again, that's slightly frustrating because about fact that that's slightly frustrating becaustnot about fact that that's slightly frustrating becaustnot asbout fact that that's slightly frustrating becaustnot as much, fact that that's slightly frustrating becaustnot as much, you:t that that's slightly frustrating becaustnot as much, you know, there's not as much, you know, there's not as much, you know, the menopause has been the sort of menopause has been in the news a lot. and the stigmatisation has been taken away are talking away and women are talking about it. with infertility it. whereas with infertility treatment doesn't to treatment, there doesn't seem to be understanding or

be as much understanding or input. be as much understanding or input . and so there are two input. and so there are two quite different things. they are two very different— tc. c “tcgi they are two very different things. tc. c “cgti they are two very different things. so to centen— two very different things. so to eetepe ttet— two very different things. so to compare them and— two very different things. so to compare them and say, oh, that's getting too much and that's not getting too much and that's not getting enough, is that you just we need to something more we need to do something more about it. i mean, obviously if wetne— about it. i mean, obviously if went—et- about it. i mean, obviously if wen-te—et ttel you're into the men of the menopause, that will have menopause, then that will have tnetteettens— menopause, then that will have implications—notl implications for whether or not you— implications for whether or not wen-newe— implications for whether or not you-have-therel implications for whether or not| you-have-there is you can have children. there is no you can have children. there is ne etsetntetw— you can have children. there is no absolutely similar in that witt— no absolutely similar in that wttt seen— no absolutely similar in that with scar. but— no absolutely similar in that with scar. but there's also the etten— with scar. but there's also the ettet eseeets— with scar. but there's also the other aspects of— with scar. but there's also the other aspects of it. t“ other aspects of it. i mean, tente— other aspects of it. i mean, dame actually dame clare gerada did actually annoy me on the it's not annoy me on the whole. it's not annoy me on the whole. it's not an a process an illness, it's just a process you through. well, lucky you you go through. well, lucky you if you just through it. if you just went through it. lots processes are still lots of processes are still pretty unpleasant can pretty unpleasant and they can be mitigated. yeah, yeah. and so and so to of dismiss the and so to kind of dismiss the menopause by way of sort of bumping infertility obe seems bumping up infertility obe seems like a really way to like not a really good way to have argument about this have an argument about and this is if this is a is i don't know if this is a feminist point or it's like one or other, but i would say this. i it's very difficult for i think it's very difficult for women now because they are exeeetet— women now because they are expected _ like - women now because they are expected like kind expected to function like kind of expected to function like kind et—ent- expected to function like kind et—ent tttngsl of as executives and things in ttet— of as executives and things in ttet-ent— of as executives and things in their. and -you- of as executives and things in their and you know, their 40s and 50s. you know, were— their 40s and 50s. you know, ttene ee— their 40s and 50s. you know, ttene e— their 40s and 50s. you know, there are a lot— their 40s and 50s. you know, there are a lot of— their 40s and 50s. you know, there are a lot of them have teen— there are a lot of them have

been hustled— there are a lot of them have been hustled almost into into stnesstnt— been hustled almost into into stressful jobs— been hustled almost into into stressful jobs you know expected to_w— stressful jobs you know expected te—ne te - to keep their end up do ewettttng— to keep their end up do everything and suddenly in everything and now suddenly in 45 everything and now suddenly in tes-een— everything and now suddenly in ets-een stet— everything and now suddenly in 45-can start to— everything and now suddenly in 45 can start to experience 45 you can start to experience all-unpleasant- 45 you can start to experience all unpleasant maybe all kinds of unpleasant maybe tetettwetw— all kinds of unpleasant maybe relatively minor— all kinds of unpleasant maybe relatively minor symptoms eeneenet— relatively minor symptoms eeneenet te— relatively minor symptoms compared to having a stroke. but it's compared to having a stroke. but its stit— compared to having a stroke. but its stttt ttet— compared to having a stroke. but it's still they can— compared to having a stroke. but it's still they can be debilitating. absolutely. but in teens— debilitating. absolutely. but in teens et— debilitating. absolutely. but in teens et tt-s— debilitating. absolutely. but in terms of it's like— debilitating. absolutely. but in terms of it's like anything people— terms of it's like anything people different responses people have different responses to people have different responses te tte— people have different responses te tte te— people have different responses te tte te tte— people have different responses to the to the menopause or to tte— to the to the menopause or to tte neeetten— to the to the menopause or to the reaction to— to the to the menopause or to the reaction to it. - to the to the menopause or to the reaction to it. ' “c the reaction to it. and some people are iller than others. so let's let's continue with ntsegwnw— so let's let's continue with ntsegwnw ent— so let's let's continue with misogyny and it- so let's let's continue with misogyny and it is worldwide. it eneens— misogyny and it is worldwide. it eneens te— misogyny and it is worldwide. it eneens te te— misogyny and it is worldwide. it appears to be rife,— misogyny and it is worldwide. it appears to be rife, although exten— appears to be rife, although exten wee— appears to be rife, although oxfam were mentioned in this ettete— oxfam were mentioned in this article-knows- oxfam were mentioned in this article.-knows ? - oxfam were mentioned in this article. knows ? \. oxfam were mentioned in this- article.-knows ? nine out article. so who knows? nine out of article. so who knows? nine out et ten— article. so who knows? nine out of ten people are biased against women. yeah. so a quarter. see, this is i do find this interesting is that so? 40% believe men are better business executives. but a quarter believe it is justified for men to beat their wives. who's admitting to that? well, it's worldwide, isn't— admitting to that? well, it's worldwide, isn't it?- ac .. “cg .“a.7 well, it's worldwide, isn't it? this is the ting. — worldwide, isn't it? this is the ting. .— worldwide, isn't it? this is the the t eneen— worldwide, isn't it? this is the thing. i mean, you mentioned atgtentsten— thing. i mean, you mentioned afghanistan. oh,— thing. i mean, you mentioned afghanistan. oh, yeah, just the tettten— afghanistan. oh, yeah, just the taliban tobacco,— afghanistan. oh, yeah, just the taliban tobacco, nobody matters. wett— taliban tobacco, nobody matters. wett tt-s— taliban tobacco, nobody matters. wett its pretty— taliban tobacco, nobody matters. well it's pretty much in the enen— well it's pretty much in the enet an— well it's pretty much in the enet at t— well it's pretty much in the quran. am i wrong? ' well it's pretty much in the quran. am i wrong? w 3g well it's pretty much in the quran. am i wrong? cg 7 quran. am i wrong? am i wrong? no, i'm i'm. i do not prove me

wrong. yeah, yeah, i saw that t— wrong. yeah, yeah, i saw that sense. i was like,— wrong. yeah, yeah, i saw that sense. i was like, it's- cg yeah, yeah, i saw that sense. i was like, it's like nett— sense. i was like, it's like tett et— sense. i was like, it's like half of the— sense. i was like, it's like half of the people in 80 countries— half of the people in 80 countries believe men make better— countries believe men make better political— countries believe men make better political leaders. i was tte.— better political leaders. i was neg-nan.— better political leaders. i was like,-that's your- better political leaders. i was like, that's your opinion. like, okay, that's your opinion. eon— like, okay, that's your opinion. eon-nen— like, okay, that's your opinion. eon-ten ee- like, okay, that's your opinion. 40% men are better 40% believe men are better tnstness— 40% believe men are better. business—like, business executives. i was like, ttne— business executives. i was like, tine-gneten— business executives. i was like, fine. quarter believe it's fine. and a quarter believe it's tnsttttet— fine. and a quarter believe it's justified _their- fine. and a quarter believe it's justified their wives. justified to beat their wives. i tte.— justified to beat their wives. i tte. neng— justified to beat their wives. i was like, hang on, you lost me. yest— was like, hang on, you lost me. yes. wen— was like, hang on, you lost me. yes. wen test— was like, hang on, you lost me. yes, you lost-at— was like, hang on, you lost me. yes, you lost-at the- was like, hang on, you lost me. yes, you lost at the end. yes, you lost me at the end. ttene— yes, you lost me at the end. ttet-ween.- yes, you lost me at the end. there _yeah.-isl yes, you lost me at the end. l there _yeah.-is the there yeah, yeah. this is the slippery slope. or is it the foot in the door? but it is. but egetn— foot in the door? but it is. but egetn. tt-s— foot in the door? but it is. but egetn. tt-s getng— foot in the door? but it is. but again, it's going to— t“ :”7 but it is. but again, it's going to that thing of again, it's going to that thing et ttet-s— again, it's going to that thing of that's people's opinions. not neeessentw— of that's people's opinions. not necessarily what— necessarily what what's happening— necessarily what what's happening because happening in the world. because enegtess— happening in the world. because- eneesswetneng— progress has been made and women are progress has been made and women nnet— progress has been made and women are much more in the— progress has been made and women are much more in the workplace ent— are much more in the workplace enet nnet— are much more in the workplace enet nnet mete— are much more in the workplace and much more visible even in eenetw— and much more visible even in comedy. comedian, know. comedy. as a comedian, i know. tut—etent- but no, you're talking about you're about the west. you're talking about the west. this the thing. this is a this is the thing. this is a worldwide ad, and we have seen, you all you know, afghanistan and all the rest of the world has gone backwards. and many other the rest of the world has gone backvofds. and many other the rest of the world has gone backvofds. lworld. many other the rest of the world has gone backvofds. lworld. there's her the rest of the world has gone backvofds. lworld. there's been parts of the world. there's been a slide from democracy a backward slide from democracy into autocracy. what's into autocracy. yeah. and what's interesting— into autocracy. yeah. and what's tntetesttng ts— into autocracy. yeah. and what's interesting is they're— cc / and what's interesting is they're saying ttet— interesting is they're saying that—changed. interesting is they're saying that changed and that this hasn't changed and ttet-te— that this hasn't changed and ttew-ne sewing.— that this hasn't changed and they're saying, oh, it's steettng. — they're saying, oh, it's. shocking.-doing they're saying, oh, it's- shocking. _doing this they're saying, oh, it's— shocking.-doing this and shocking. we keep doing this and it shocking. we keep doing this and tt—en— shocking. we keep doing this and tt—et tt— shocking. we keep doing this and tt—et tt stews- shocking. we keep doing this and it_or it stays the- it just goes up or it stays the same—doesn't- it just goes up or it stays thei same—doesn't work. same because it doesn't work. ttts— same because it doesn't work. ttts-senet— same because it doesn't work. this social engineering this kind of social engineering is this kind of social engineeringi

ts—neen-et is not working. i mean, look at ttts.— is not working. i mean, look at ttts. ttet-te— is not working. i mean, look at this. they're saying they're eenetetetw— this. they're saying they're completely off— this. they're saying they're completely off track to achieve gentee— completely off track to achieve getter-tw— completely off track to achieve getter-ti zoeo. - gender equality by 2030. what is ttts.— gender equality by 2030. what is ttts-tene— gender equality by 2030. what is ttts-tent wtw- gender equality by 2030. what is this,-men? why do- gender equality by 2030. what is this, men? why do we this, net zero men? why do we teet— this, net zero men? why do we neet-tengetse— this, net zero men? why do we need _targets? it's- need these targets? it's eenetetetw— need these targets? it's- completely—people need these targets? it's- conjust ely _ people need these targets? it's- conjust going-people need these targets? it's- conjust going to-people need these targets? it's conjust going to think people need these targets? it's conjust going to think whatle are just going to think what ttet-te— are just going to think what ttew-ne getng— are just going to think what they're going think to they're going to think to a tenge—tt- they're going to think to a tetge—tt tnstl large extent. and it just shows ttet— large extent. and it just shows ttet-senet— large extent. and it just shows that social engineering has that this social engineering has tettet. — that this social engineering has tettet. wett— that this social engineering has failed. well, it— that this social engineering has failed. well, it also- that this social engineering has failed. �*tit�*tit.. . failed. well, it also shows women can drive in saudi. now, why is everyone t“ ti.a“ c c t“ : now, why is everyone complaining etent. — why is everyone complaining etent. otew— why is everyone complaining about. okay, that's- why is everyone complaining. about. okay, that's-part about. okay, that's it for part two. epstein settlements. bbc confronts

i'm keeping you company right tttengt— i'm keeping you company right ttnengt nnttt— i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb through until 7:00 this evening. en wens— through until 7:00 this evening. en wews tte— through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel gb news the people's. channel weteete— gb news the people's. channel weteete teet— gb news the people's. channel welcome back to— gb news the people's. channel welcome back to headliners for the third quarter. we have p&o news now in the independent . news now in the independent. nick and jp morgan have coughed up for some of jeffrey epstein's crimes, if i've understood it correctly. yeah and i look tetwett— correctly. yeah and i look tetwett te— correctly. yeah and i look forward to your— ii i/tita“ and i look forward to your apology for the tengnege— forward to your apology for the language there. _ forward to your apology for the language there. but jp morgan etes— language there. but jp morgan reaches settlement with victims of reaches settlement with victims et tete— reaches settlement with victims et tete tettew— reaches settlement with victims of late jeffrey epstein. i mean, i of late jeffrey epstein. i mean, t-eett— of late jeffrey epstein. i mean, t-eett ttn— of late jeffrey epstein. i mean, i-call him that.— of late jeffrey epstein. i mean, i call him that. it's in i can call him that. it's in print — i can call him that. it's in print ant— i can call him that. it's in print. and so,— i can call him that. it's in print. and so, yeah, they've neeetet— print. and so, yeah, they've neeetet e— print. and so, yeah, they've reached a $290— print. and so, yeah, they've reached a $290 million agreement in reached a $290 million agreement tn—tte- in principle to settle. and the eeensetn— in principle to settle. and the accusation in— in principle to settle. and the accusation in the— in principle to settle. and the accusation in the case was that accusation in the case was that e tet— accusation in the case was that e tee ttegs— accusation in the case was that a red flags have— accusation in the case was that a red flags have been ignored, ttet— a red flags have been ignored, ttet ttet—

a red flags have been ignored, that they knew— a red flags have been ignored, that they knew morgan knew about testetn-s— that they knew morgan knew about epstein's behaviour— that they knew morgan knew about epstein's behaviour , but ignored epstein's behaviour, but ignored it tense— epstein's behaviour, but ignored it tense te— epstein's behaviour, but ignored it because he brought wealthy it because he brought in wealthy ettents— it because he brought in wealthy ettents-te— it because he brought in wealthy clients-he himself- it because he brought in wealthy clients he himself was clients and he himself was a weetttw— clients and he himself was a wealthy-we've- clients and he himself was a wealthy we've never seen wealthy client. we've never seen enwtttng— wealthy client. we've never seen enwtttng tite— wealthy client. we've never seen anything like that— wealthy client. we've never seen anything like that happen. i een-t— anything like that happen. i can't believe— anything like that happen. i can't believe it— anything like that happen. i can't believe it personally. and so can't believe it personally. and se-ttew-we— can't believe it personally. and so they've decided to so instead they've decided to sette— so instead they've decided to settte—tttsl settle rather than have this ttne— settle rather than have this kind information come out, kind of information come out, i sneeese. — kind of information come out, i sneeese. _ett-ttti suppose. and it's all got a bit succession. if— suppose. and it's all got a bit succession. if watch succession. if you watch succession with the cruises, tt-s— succession with the cruises, tt-s eti— succession with the cruises, tt-s ett get— succession with the cruises, tt-s ett get e— succession with the cruises, it's all got a bit— succession with the cruises, it's all got a bit sort of the tte— it's all got a bit sort of the tte-ent- it's all got a bit sort of the ceo-out and- it's all got a bit sort of thei ceo-out and done it's all got a bit sort of the ceo-out and done full ceo has come out and done a full ten— ceo has come out and done a full ten wentsgens— ceo has come out and done a full tom wambsgans and sorry if you tewen-t— tom wambsgans and sorry if you tewen-t seen— tom wambsgans and sorry if you haven't seen the— tom wambsgans and sorry if you haven't seen the show, he haven't seen the show, but he sets— haven't seen the show, but he says- arrested - haven't seen the show, but he says-arrested and - haven't seen the show, but he says arrested and all the says he was arrested and all the stenes—ett- says he was arrested and all the stories—all the. stories came out about all the eeente— stories came out about all the eeenteltnews. — stories came out about all the people knows. and the reason people he knows. and the reason i people he knows. and the reason i retnetnert— people he knows. and the reason i renenterlts— people he knows. and the reason i rememberlis that— people he knows. and the reason i remember is that i was i remember it is that i was snrertset— i remember it is that i was surprised that— i remember it is that i was surprised that i— i remember it is that i was surprised that i didn't know etent— surprised that i didn't know about.before,_ surprised that i didn't know about before, was just about it before, which was just it about it before, which was just tt-trne.— about it before, which was just tt-trne. tent— about it before, which was just it-true, but it's- about it before, which was just it-true, but it's a- it may be true, but it's a tttertens— it may be true, but it's a hilarious line. - it may be true, but it's a hilarious line. i- it may be true, but it's a hilarious line. i was surprised i hilarious line. i was surprised r-tnew— hilarious line. i was surprised r-tnew etent- hilarious line. i was surprised i know about this. i didn't know about this. it's ttte— i didn't know about this. it's tte. ween.— i didn't know about this. it's like, yeah,-can't- i didn't know about this. it's like, yeah, can't make like, yeah, you can't make a enetette— like, yeah, you can't make a omelette breaking some omelette without breaking some greg-s.— omelette without breaking some trees-twe— omelette without breaking some trees-tte get- omelette without breaking some greg's-i've got to- greg's. that's all i've got to sew.— greg's. that's all i've got to sew. — greg's. that's all i've got to sew. vet— greg's. that's all i've got to sew. vet geet— greg's. that's all i've got to sew. vet geet. r— greg's. that's all i've got to say. tilt g ctitt“ . greg's. that's all i've got to say. g ctitt“ . say. very good. i don't quite understand exactly how much business was bringing jp business epstein was bringing jp morgan, thought lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe n, thought lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe sort thought lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe sort of thought lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe sort of shroud ought lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe sort of shroud ofght lot business epstein was bringing jp mithe sort of shroud of mystery of the sort of shroud of mystery around epstein was that despite being as around epstein was that despite bein of as around epstein was that despite bein of wealthy as around epstein was that despite bein of wealthy hedge as around epstein was that despite bein of wealthy hedge fundis sort of wealthy hedge fund manager was very manager and so on, it was very hard to actually pin down what the nature of his business was. so this suggesting

so now this is suggesting that he actually conducting some he was actually conducting some conventional financial business as island as well as running this island full of. well, i love the point tene— full of. well, i love the point went-ttet.- full of. well, i love the point. you're-that,-know, you're saying is that, you know, sewing— you're saying is that, you know, sewing tet— you're saying is that, you know, saying he'd never— you're saying is that, you know, saying he'd never heard of testetn— saying he'd never heard of testetn er— saying he'd never heard of epstein or crimes until he epstein or his crimes until he was arrested. _ epstein or his crimes until he was arrested. but— epstein or his crimes until he was arrested. but other was arrested. but the other tttng— was arrested. but the other tttng es— was arrested. but the other thing as well— was arrested. but the other thing as well you hadn't thing as well that you hadn't netteett— thing as well that you hadn't noticed,-flags. - thing as well that you hadn't noticed,-flags. i- thing as well that you hadn't noticed, flags. i mean, noticed, the red flags. i mean, i_w— noticed, the red flags. i mean, r—nw tent- noticed, the red flags. i mean, r—nw tent tnl i forget to tell my bank i'm going— i forget to tell my bank i'm getng en— i forget to tell my bank i'm going on holiday to spain. and it immediately— going on holiday to spain. and it immediately you can't it immediately goes, you can't newe— it immediately goes, you can't have—vou- it immediately goes, you can't have—you know,- it immediately goes, you can'ti have _you know, so it immediately goes, you can't- have _you know, so my have any money, you know, so my tent— have any money, you know, so my tent-exeettw— have any money, you know, so my bank-exactly what- have any money, you know, so my bank exactly what i'm up have any money, you know, so my baevery exactly what i'm up have any money, you know, so my baevery second ctly what i'm up have any money, you know, so my baevery second ofy what i'm up have any money, you know, so my baevery second of theiat i'm up have any money, you know, so my baevery second of the day.m up have any money, you know, so my ba every second of the day. very to every second of the day. very gnestten— to every second of the day. very gnestten. se— to every second of the day. very gnestten. se i— to every second of the day. very question. so i find— to every second of the day. very question. so i find it very snsetetens. — question. so i find it very suspicious. i— question. so i find it very suspicious. i do- question. so i find it very suspicious. ctitt . suspicious. i do as well. it's also an unfortunate coincidence that had was that the deal they had was called a sweetheart plea deal. that's didn't that that's just i didn't know that term before. it's not about term before. but it's not about the it's. yeah, the island. it's. yeah, that's a generet— the island. it's. yeah, that's a generet teget— the island. it's. yeah, that's a general legal term.- c yeah, that's a general legal term. well, ttet-we— general legal term. well, they've reached a million they've reached a $290 million egreenent. — they've reached a $290 million agreement.-it's- agreement. so i think it's etwtenstw— agreement. so i think it's obviously-clear- agreement. so i think it's obviously clear that obviously fairly clear that eeente— obviously fairly clear that. eeente—wttt obviously fairly clear that- eeente—wtttwen people generally agree with you that people generally agree with you ttetlwes— people generally agree with you ttetlwes e— people generally agree with you thatlwas a bit— people generally agree with you that was a bit suspicious . i that it was a bit suspicious. i stit— that it was a bit suspicious. i still haven't— that it was a bit suspicious. i still haven't got— that it was a bit suspicious. i still haven't got anywhere near the still haven't got anywhere near tte tetten — still haven't got anywhere near the bottom of— still haven't got anywhere near the bottom of that case, to be tenest— the bottom of that case, to be tenestl — the bottom of that case, to be tenestl why— the bottom of that case, to be honest.. why can't- the bottom of that case, to be honest.. why can't the honest. no why can't we get the client? he definitely client? let's he definitely killed himself. carry on, tetegreet. — killed himself. carry on, telegraph. jojo. yet another false is breaking at telegraph. jojo. yet another falsbbc is breaking at telegraph. jojo. yet another falsbbc by is breaking at telegraph. jojo. yet another fals bbc by the reaking at telegraph. jojo. yet another falsbbc by the sound] at telegraph. jojo. yet another falsbbc by the sound of at telegraph. jojo. yet another falsbbc by the sound of it. oh, the bbc by the sound of it. oh, yes. so bbc plans to build- yes. so bbc plans to build ttterse— yes. so bbc plans to build diverse workforce to fight off ttteret— diverse workforce to fight off liberal bias—

diverse workforce to fight off liberal bias claims. diverse workforce to fight off liberal bias claims . and so liberal bias claims. and so ttere-s— liberal bias claims. and so ttere-s r— liberal bias claims. and so there's i mean,— liberal bias claims. and so there's i mean, this this is the tttng— there's i mean, this this is the tttng ttet— there's i mean, this this is the thing that keeps— there's i mean, this this is the thing that keeps going on. it teens— thing that keeps going on. it teens eentng— thing that keeps going on. it keeps coming back is that left wing— keeps coming back is that left wing witt— keeps coming back is that left wing will accuse— keeps coming back is that left wing will accuse the bbc of tetng— wing will accuse the bbc of tetng tee— wing will accuse the bbc of being too right— wing will accuse the bbc of being too right wing and then rtgtt— being too right wing and then rtgtt wing— being too right wing and then right wing will— being too right wing and then right wing will accuse the bbc of right wing will accuse the bbc et tetng— right wing will accuse the bbc et tetng tee— right wing will accuse the bbc of being too left— right wing will accuse the bbc of being too left wing . so the of being too left wing. so the tee— of being too left wing. so the ttee te— of being too left wing. so the ttee te ttet— of being too left wing. so the idea to then come up with people testeettw— idea to then come up with people testeettw ttet— idea to then come up with people basically that are _ idea to then come up with people basically that are poor , i think basically that are poor, i think is wtet— basically that are poor, i think is wtet ttet— basically that are poor, i think is what they want— basically that are poor, i think is what they want to do that set— is what they want to do that set ts— is what they want to do that somehow is going to solve the nretten. — somehow is going to solve the eretten. ttet— somehow is going to solve the problem. they want more working etess— problem. they want more working etess peer— problem. they want more working etess peer eeente— problem. they want more working class poor people and they also went— class poor people and they also went te— class poor people and they also want to represent— class poor people and they also want to represent a wide range of want to represent a wide range et views— want to represent a wide range et ent— want to represent a wide range of views and perspectives. ' “c of views and perspectives. and ttet-re— of views and perspectives. and ttet-re saying— of views and perspectives. and they're saying they want to have a process that ensures they hire those why just hire those people. why not just hire them suspect many of them also, i suspect many of them also, i suspect many of them they're them are there, but they're afraid out. and for afraid to speak out. and for what i've learnt, speaking to bbc employees is that just bbc employees is that it's just sort of that you can't sort of known that you can't really stuff, but really say this stuff, but everyone knows what your views are, not really are, but it's just not really able really say because able to really say because everyone knows what the bbc are. they're of globalist over they're sort of globalist over nationalist, they're remainer, they're social they're woke on sort of social issues. knows they issues. everyone knows what they are. the covid are. they're pro the covid narrative nick narrative and now they've nick robinson thing

robinson just had this thing where he said that partisan channels like gb news risk causing problems, causing impartiality problems, as if anyone thinks the bbc is still impartial. it's so absurd. just today, karl benjamin was totally smeared marianna totally smeared by marianna spnng he spring on her podcast and he just listed the factual just listed all the factual inaccuracies of programme . inaccuracies of the programme. so as part of bbc so she's there as part of bbc verify to check misinformation, whereas she's producing her own misinformation. buti whereas she's producing her own misinformation. but i mean, my teettng— misinformation. but i mean, my teettng witt— misinformation. but i mean, my feeling with the— misinformation. but i mean, my feeling with the .with- but i mean, my feeling with the with the feeling with the bbc, with the news—ts- news department, which is etwtenstw— news department, which is obviously important obviously the most important tttng. — obviously the most important thing. _certainly- obviously the most important thing. certainly you thing. i mean, certainly if you ttsten— thing. i mean, certainly if you listen-things— thing. i mean, certainly if you listen-things like- thing. i mean, certainly if you listen things like woman's listen to things like woman's erat— listen to things like woman's tre. tt— listen to things like woman's tre. tt wen— listen to things like woman's era, if you ever— listen to things like woman's era, if you ever hear those on tte— era, if you ever hear those on tte-er— era, if you ever hear those on tte-er-tttngs- era, if you ever hear those oni the-or-things that the radio or or the things that tent— the radio or or the things that tent-get— the radio or or the things that tend get focussed on front tend to get focussed on on front rewlwtetewert— tend to get focussed on on front row whatever, there is a row or whatever, there is a eertetn— row or whatever, there is a eertetn-et— row or whatever, there is a certain of guardian reader certain kind of guardian reader set— certain kind of guardian reader set et— certain kind of guardian reader set et ttes— certain kind of guardian reader sort of bias, but— certain kind of guardian reader sort of bias, but it's the news teeettent— sort of bias, but it's the news department that— sort of bias, but it's the news department that is obviously nest—ten-tl department that is obviously- most_don't think most important and i don't think you most important and i don't think wen—ttet- most important and i don't think wen—ttet wet- most important and i don't thinki you _them very often you could accuse them very often of you could accuse them very often et—er— you could accuse them very often et—er gtwng- of misreporting or giving misinformation. it's just where ttet— misinformation. it's just where ttet-seems— misinformation. it's just where their- seems to- misinformation. it's just where their seems to it's their focus seems to fall. it's wtet— their focus seems to fall. it's wtet-et— their focus seems to fall. it's what-of stories- their focus seems to fall. it's what of stories they tend what kind of stories they tend to what kind of stories they tend te-wen— what kind of stories they tend te-wen tnewt- what kind of stories they tend to you know, forefront to kind of, you know, forefront reettw. — to kind of, you know, forefront really- ttt— to kind of, you know, forefront really. did they— to kind of, you know, forefront really. i c really. did they represent the leave position fairly ? did they leave position fairly? did they represent the vaccine sceptic position? did they represent the lockdown sceptic position that fairly? i don't think not at all, because that's terribly. well, no, they absolutely

ttet-t.— well, no, they absolutely didn't—ti didn't, because there's a teettewn— didn't, because there's a lockdown-and. didn't, because there's a- lockdown-and there's lockdown sceptic and there's a vaccine sceptic— lockdown sceptic and there's a vaccine sceptic ,_ lockdown sceptic and there's a vaccine sceptic ,-i- lockdown sceptic and there's a vaccine sceptic , i very vaccine sceptic, then i was very tetng— vaccine sceptic, then i was very tetng en— vaccine sceptic, then i was very aware being on the— vaccine sceptic, then i was very aware being on the other side ttet— aware being on the other side ttet tt— aware being on the other side ttet tt wes— aware being on the other side ttet tt .— aware being on the other side that it was . and— aware being on the other side that it was . and also it's quite that it was. and also it's quite interesting— that it was. and also it's quite interesting as— that it was. and also it's quite interesting as well, not your views— interesting as well, not your views were not— interesting as well, not your views were not allowed because i estee— views were not allowed because i estet te— views were not allowed because i estet te te— views were not allowed because i was asked to do certain things views were not allowed because i wa bbc ed to do certain things views were not allowed because i wa bbc and) do certain things views were not allowed because i wa bbc and wantedtain things views were not allowed because i wa bbc and wanted ton things views were not allowed because i wa bbc and wanted to sayings views were not allowed because i wa bbc and wanted to say certain on bbc and wanted to say certain tttngs— on bbc and wanted to say certain tttngs-wes— on bbc and wanted to say certain things was suggested maybe things and was suggested maybe not things and was suggested maybe net ent— things and was suggested maybe net enet r— things and was suggested maybe net enet r etse— things and was suggested maybe not and i also think they have a ttet— not and i also think they have a ttew newe— not and i also think they have a ttew tewe e— not and i also think they have a they have a tendency of almost eententne— they have a tendency of almost pantomime mimicry exaggerating the pantomime mimicry exaggerating tte tetn— pantomime mimicry exaggerating the both sides— pantomime mimicry exaggerating the both sides thing. so they witt— the both sides thing. so they wttt sew— the both sides thing. so they wttt sew. wen— the both sides thing. so they will say, you know, we're tetttng— will say, you know, we're talking about— will say, you know, we're talking about climate change. we-we— talking about climate change. we-we get— talking about climate change. we-we get tn— talking about climate change. we-we get in e— talking about climate change. we've got in a scientist from tte— we've got in a scientist from the governmental you know the mete— the governmental you know the ttete stnttes— the governmental you know the meta studies or— the governmental you know the meta studies or whatever that's tettnttetw— meta studies or whatever that's definitely happening. and then on definitely happening. and then en tte— definitely happening. and then en tte etter— definitely happening. and then on the other hand , we will have on the other hand, we will have wtget— on the other hand, we will have wtget tewsen— on the other hand, we will have nigel lawson whatever who nigel lawson or whatever who eente — nigel lawson or whatever who eente ltte — nigel lawson or whatever who everyone .the left - nigel lawson or whatever who everyone the left regards as everyone on the left regards as a everyone on the left regards as e set— everyone on the left regards as e set et— everyone on the left regards as a sort of clown— everyone on the left regards as a sort of clown like figure retter— a sort of clown like figure rather than— a sort of clown like figure rather than somebody who's eetnettw— rather than somebody who's eetnettw e— rather than somebody who's actually a serious voice against ttts— actually a serious voice against ttts sett— actually a serious voice against ttts set et— actually a serious voice against this sort of thing.— actually a serious voice against this sort of thing. do you know wtet— this sort of thing. do you know wtet r— this sort of thing. do you know wtet r neen— this sort of thing. do you know what i mean? it's— this sort of thing. do you know what i mean? it's there's this ttere-s— what i mean? it's there's this ttere-s se— what i mean? it's there's this there's so many— what i mean? it's there's this there's so many different ways in wttet— there's so many different ways in wttet ttet— there's so many different ways in which they can— there's so many different ways in which they can just subtly, vou— in which they can just subtly, you tnew. — in which they can just subtly, you know, exude— in which they can just subtly, you know, exude a certain amount of you know, exude a certain amount et-wtttent— you know, exude a certain amount et-wtttent eer— you know, exude a certain amount of without ever actually of bias without ever actually tetng— of bias without ever actually tetng etnnet— of bias without ever actually being pinned down. yeah. and

it's being pinned down. yeah. and its eteer— being pinned down. yeah. and it's clear they— being pinned down. yeah. and it's clear they didn't like certwn—tel it's clear they didn't like- corbyn _ do accept corbyn either. so i do accept that of the further that some of the further lefties are well, hate corbyn are like, well, they hate corbyn and to be as and that seems to be true as well. they're sort of we can tell they're sort of remain a bias liberal, lefty, but it's not, not they obviously not, it's not they obviously don't side don't like the corbyn side ehhen don't like the corbyn side either. right they just either. all the right they just like their little weird metro blob thing staying the blob thing staying with the metro the guardian. metro blob now in the guardian. nick and talking about nick and they're talking about trttgeten. — nick and they're talking about trttgeten. _tei bridgerton. it's no surprise to teen— bridgerton. it's no surprise to teen wte— bridgerton. it's no surprise to learn who the— bridgerton. it's no surprise to learn who the real victims are. ves— learn who the real victims are. tes-ttew-we— learn who the real victims are. yes _they've gone- learn who the real victims are. yes _they've gone with l learn who the real victims are.. yes _they've gone with why learn who the real victims are.- yes _they've gone with why is yes and they've gone with why is bridgerton's twisting bridgerton's race twisting acceptable? problem acceptable? the real problem with fantasy with the show's black fantasy and i've got to say, buckle up , and i've got to say, buckle up, quyst and i've got to say, buckle up, guys, because it's a guardian think piece about race, which is amongst the least things i ever want to look at. but it's got a reasonable point at first. it starts with usual nonsense starts with the usual nonsense and but it and guardian nonsense. but it makes one reasonable point that when you make characters black and these historical and wealthy in these historical dramas, you're sort of undermining the struggle. so you've so—called you've got this so—called colour—blind casting, which is never really colour—blind in favour people. it's favour of white people. it's never a white black panther. it's always goes one way. as we know. and but but then you say,

i know. and but but then you say, r-ttet-s— know. and but but then you say, i-that's interesting- know. and but but then you say, i-that's interesting in- i mean, that's interesting in ttsett— itself because the problem is i tte— itself because the problem is i mean, the black— itself because the problem is i mean, the black panther is a reeenttw— mean, the black panther is a recently created _ mean, the black panther is a recently created entity in ttsett— recently created entity in. itself. _ speaking, itself. historically speaking, western— itself. historically speaking, western culture doesn't have netw— western culture doesn't have tent—rt- many black people. it has ettette— many black people. it has othello - know, - many black people. it has othello know, has othello, you know, it has a tenttnt— othello, you know, it has a tenttnt et— othello, you know, it has a handful of racial minorities ttet— handful of racial minorities ttet newe— handful of racial minorities that have recognisable characters— that have recognisable characters ,— that have recognisable characters , leading plays. and. characters, leading plays. and. teen.— characters, leading plays. and. reet. — characters, leading plays. and. reet. ttt— characters, leading plays. and. yeah. and there's— characters, leading plays. and. yeah. and there's the- characters, leading plays. and. yeah. ' yeah. and there's the there's the real characters like cleopatra, who's been very controversial because they've made her black when she wasn't. then there's also people like aragorn. there's a black aragorn. there's been a black aragorn. there's been a black aragorn people aragorn recently and people say, well, why can't you have it? well, why can't you have it? well, the thing is, because well, why can't you have it? well, tiwasing is, because well, why can't you have it? well, tiwas very;, because well, why can't you have it? well, tiwas very specific;e well, why can't you have it? well, tiwas very specific is a tolkien was very specific is a specific character at that point. go, well, why point. you just go, well, why can't all have and it can't they all have cars? and it just just it just degenerates just it just it just degenerates very quickly. but point very quickly. but this point about, people about, you know, black people saying, so cast saying, hang on. so they've cast people people, but now people as black people, but now it's undermining the it's actually undermining the struggle, which there's a reasonable absolute if you're going to complain that society has always been biased against black can't black people, then you can't cast as you can't rewrite cast them as you can't rewrite history and change the perspective. it's tricky perspective. yeah, it's a tricky _tt-s— perspective. yeah, it's a tricky _tt-s e— perspective. yeah, it's a tricky one.-it's a nice- perspective. yeah, it's a tricky one.-it's a nice long. one. anyway, it's a nice long eteee— one. anyway, it's a nice long eteee ent— one. anyway, it's a nice long eteee enet tt— one. anyway, it's a nice long piece and it turns- one. anyway, it's a nice long piece and it turns out, as i say,— piece and it turns out, as i sew ttet— piece and it turns out, as i say, that we're— piece and it turns out, as i say, that we're to blame once egetn. — say, that we're to blame once egetn. netw— say, that we're to blame once again. daily mail,— say, that we're to blame once again. daily mail, jojo and

someone-know. again. daily mail, jojo and someone know if again. daily mail, jojo and. someone _know if we again. daily mail, jojo and- someone-know if we are someone wants to know if we are getng— someone wants to know if we are getng te— someone wants to know if we are getng teltrtwen— someone wants to know if we are getng teltrtwen tw— someone wants to know if we are going to driven by facts and going to be driven by facts and eete—gntt- data or sentiment, guilt and tettw—te- data or sentiment, guilt and tettw—te te| data or sentiment, guilt and. lobby—ha ha ha. lobby groups. ha ha ha ha ha. teee— lobby groups. ha ha ha ha ha. teee repet— lobby groups. ha ha ha ha ha. race report author says britain neets— race report author says britain neets te— race report author says britain neets te stee— race report author says britain needs to stop being driven by wttte— needs to stop being driven by wttte gntt— needs to stop being driven by white guilt and— needs to stop being driven by white guilt and this really fascinates— white guilt and this really fascinates me,— white guilt and this really fascinates me, this thing tense— fascinates me, this thing because it's— fascinates me, this thing because it's getting back to wtet— because it's getting back to wtet wen— because it's getting back to what you saying about with because it's getting back to th’ diversity saying about with because it's getting back to th’ diversity andtying about with because it's getting back to th’ diversity and views bout with because it's getting back to th’ diversity and views 0th with because it's getting back to th’ diversity and views on oniith the diversity and views on on tec— the diversity and views on on etc ttet— the diversity and views on on bbc that there— the diversity and views on on bbc that there is— the diversity and views on on bbc that there is this thing ttet— bbc that there is this thing ttet w-wee— bbc that there is this thing that we've we're people are wetting— that we've we're people are wetttng en— that we've we're people are walking on eggshells and not you tnew— walking on eggshells and not you tnew r— walking on eggshells and not you tnew r ten-t— walking on eggshells and not you know i don't think— walking on eggshells and not you know i don't think we are rectst. — know i don't think we are rectst. r— know i don't think we are racist. i don't- know i don't think we are racist. i don't i- know i don't think we are racist. ctitt“ . t“ know i don't think we are- racist. i don't i mean of course racism exists but i think we've been tackling it for quite a while. and purely by coincidence, for something that we were writing for comedy, we watched an episode of love thy neighbour and i was watching it and the language is appalling . and the language is appalling. yeah, it really does strike you in this day and age. you go, oh my god, from the 1970s, 1972, it was an episode . my god, from the 1970s, 1972, it was an episode. but my god, from the 1970s, 1972, it was an episode . but actually the was an episode. but actually the principle of it was that the white family was always coming off, but not the woman . the man off, but not the woman. the man was always coming off badly because he was throwing up these racist stereotypes and using

language that was and the black family were, you know, he he was always a fall guy. and it was it was kind of educational and going, this not going, no, this is not acceptable. is how you acceptable. this is not how you behave. now to not even have behave. and now to not even have that discussion is just, you know, just your racist, your racist, going, can racist, your racist going, can we about it? and we just talk about it? and can we just talk about it? and can we actually have this discussion? so i think discussion? and so i think people are just beginning to feel guilty just at the very thought of things that have happened. yeah, thought of things that have happened . yeah, of course. this happened. yeah, of course. this comes from dr. _ happened. yeah, of course. this comes from dr. tony— : yeah, of course. this comes from dr. tony sewell. his repert— comes from dr. tony sewell. his reeet sett— comes from dr. tony sewell. his report said institutional racism net— report said institutional racism net e— report said institutional racism was not a real— report said institutional racism was not a real thing. of course it was not a real thing. of course ttltnt— was not a real thing. of course it.but against— was not a real thing. of course it but against white people. it is. but against white people. as it is. but against white people. its-tnew.— it is. but against white people. its-tnew. tte— it is. but against white people. as.know, the .can- it is. but against white people. as know, the can say as we know, the raf can say nesttw— as we know, the raf can say mostly useless— as we know, the raf can say mostly useless white males . they mostly useless white males. they can mostly useless white males. they cenen-w— mostly useless white males. they cenen-w sett— mostly useless white males. they can _you saidlthe- can say, if you said it the ewe— can say, if you said it the etter wet— can say, if you said it the other way around. everyone would be-immediately. - other way around. everyone would be immediately. but and be sacked immediately. but and we—ee tettnti be sacked immediately. but and. we_are behind in we know white boys are behind in scteets— we know white boys are behind in scteets-en— we know white boys are behind in schools-on, but— we know white boys are behind in schools-on, but the- we know white boys are behind in schools on, but the thing schools and so on, but the thing is, schools and so on, but the thing ts-eetnts— schools and so on, but the thing ts-eetnts ent— schools and so on, but the thing is,-points out here,- schools and so on, but the thing is, points out here, you is, as he points out here, you een-t— is, as he points out here, you can't see everything through the race lens alone.— can't see everything through the race lens alone. and these eeente— race lens alone. and these eeete-wte- race lens alone. and these people,-who do. race lens alone. and these people, who do want race lens alone. and these- people,-who do want to people, people who do want to see—wttt— people, people who do want to see _will never- see it that way, will never eent— see it that way, will never etttt ttet— see it that way, will never admit that there isn't institutional admit that there isn't- institutional-because institutional racism because ewerwtttng— institutional racism becausei ewewtttng—et institutional racism becausei ewtetttng—et institutional racism becausei ev

isn't he? dr. tony sewell, because he came in for an enormous amount of flak when he published that report. that was in race in 2021. the commission on race and ethnic disparities and everyone basically he'd everyone basically felt he'd been they , been got out, didn't they, essentially. incredibly essentially. and he's incredibly generous. he even essentially. and he's incredibly generous . he even says he's generous. he even says he's ttents— generous. he even says he's ttents te— generous. he even says he's thanks to people _ tcgti he even says he's thanks to people behind black ttes— thanks to people behind black tries—strengei lives matter, which is strange tecnse— lives matter, which is strange- because—movement because it's a terrible movement . nnt— because it's a terrible movement . tnt te— because it's a terrible movement . tnt te-sews— because it's a terrible movement . but he-says, but- because it's a terrible movement . but he says, but it's . but he just says, but it's gene— . but he just says, but it's gene tee— . but he just says, but it's gene tee ter— . but he just says, but it's gone too far to- . but he just says, but it's gone too far to we're gone too far to say we're institutionally - gone too far to say we're- institutionally-he's institutionally racist. so he's tetng— institutionally racist. so he's being-moderate. institutionally racist. so he's. being-moderatelhis being he's very moderate in his ctetns— being he's very moderate in his claims-still— claims. but it still drives a cetetn— claims. but it still drives a certain segment- claims. but it still drives a certain segment of twitter nettet— certain segment of twitter mental guardian . \ttifttii' t ti.

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excuse _there - going to be my wife's next excuse there are massive excuse when there are massive ntsstng— excuse when there are massive missing—et- excuse when there are massive ntsstng—et-tetnti missing lumps out of our joint account. _mewled. . account. i've been mewled. ttet-s— account. i've been mewled. ttet-slter— account. i've been mewled. that'slfor-three.- account. i've been mewled. that's for three. and that's it for part three. and tte— that's it for part three. and tte-ttet- that's it for part three. and the final section. the next one final section. sterner-s— the next one final section. starmer's howl- the next one final section. starmer's howl is an unwelcome ettentten—sees- starmer's howl is an unwelcome attention seas mall attention in the china seas mall ent— attention in the china seas mall enet—et— attention in the china seas mall enet—et en- attention in the china seas mallj and—at an auction. and fake banks is at an auction. wett— we'll see you in a

and welcome back to headliners for and welcome back to headliners ter en— and welcome back to headliners ter ttet— and welcome back to headliners for our final section, we have tte— for our final section, we have tte netw— for our final section, we have the daily express— for our final section, we have the daily express . jojo, it the daily express. jojo, it tnrns— the daily express. jojo, it tnrns ent— the daily express. jojo, it turns out that- the daily express. jojo, it turns out that bridgerton is at reest— turns out that bridgerton is at teest mere— turns out that bridgerton is at least more accurate than keir sterner— least more accurate than keir sterner es— least more accurate than keir starmer as twitter feed. yes and teen— starmer as twitter feed. yes and labour embarrassingly fact ctectet— labour embarrassingly fact ctectet tw— labour embarrassingly fact checked by twitter over in accurate claim _ checked by twitter over in accurate claim about first black mp accurate claim about first black in . — accurate claim about first black in . se— accurate claim about first black in . se tten— accurate claim about first black mp . so elon musk— accurate claim about first black mp. so elon musk has now got this tweet fact check verification system, which is actually really noticeable that everything is what pops up . it's everything is what pops up. it's like, you know, well, no, this is a lie. and although i always really want to fact check the fact checkers and dumas , but fact checkers and dumas, but yes, so the labour party sparked a row about transparency in politics after putting out a video claiming the very first black mps were elected 36 years

ago for the labour party . so ago for the labour party. so then this was disputed and then they've gone right back to 1767 and yes, 70 the first, according to records , the first ever black to records, the first ever black mp was elected in 1767 to hundred and 20 years before labour's claim. so that is ectnettw— labour's claim. so that is actually kind— labour's claim. so that is actually kind of- i ti.a so that is actually kind of bridgerton era, tsn-t— actually kind of bridgerton era, tsn-t tte— actually kind of bridgerton era, tsn-t tte se— actually kind of bridgerton era, isn't it? so it— actually kind of bridgerton era, isn't it? so it turns out there esnt— isn't it? so it turns out there wasn't complete— isn't it? so it turns out there wasn't complete nonsense or ttere-s— wasn't complete nonsense or ttere-s ttet— wasn't complete nonsense or there's mixed race, right? ' “c there's mixed race, right? and eeente— there's mixed race, right? and peepte ere— there's mixed race, right? and peepte sewing.— there's mixed race, right? and people are saying, why are you erasing like this? erasing black history like this? which i mean, which is interesting. i mean, why are doing it? was it why are they doing it? was it just ignorance? and this the why are they doing it? was it just igthingice? and this the why are they doing it? was it just igthing aboutid this the why are they doing it? was it just igthing about communitye great thing about community notes. completely great thing about community notes. people. etely this is undermines people. and this is why the eu and other why people like the eu and other the democrat party are so desperate twitter desperate to censor twitter because it can just expose a nonsense. they're they're nerrettwe— nonsense. they're they're narrative. was— nonsense. they're they're narrative. was the- they're they're narrative. was the bernie grant tte— narrative. was the bernie grant tte greet— narrative. was the bernie grant was the great cultivator of treet— was the great cultivator of black talent— was the great cultivator of black talent .— was the great cultivator of black talent . right now i black talent. right now i remember bernie grant in the 80s wten— remember bernie grant in the 80s wten r— remember bernie grant in the 80s wten r nsee— remember bernie grant in the 80s wten r nset te— remember bernie grant in the 80s when i used to read— remember bernie grant in the 80s when i used to read sun when i used to read the sun newsgeeen— when i used to read the sun newsgeeen-wen- when i used to read the sun newspaper. you know, newspaper. he was, you know, ttet— newspaper. he was, you know, ttet wes— newspaper. he was, you know, ttet tn— newspaper. he was, you know, that was in the— newspaper. he was, you know, that was in the sixth form block wten— that was in the sixth form block wtet r— that was in the sixth form block wtet r wes— that was in the sixth form block wtet r et— that was in the sixth form block when i was at school, he was ttte— when i was at school, he was tte-teeny— when i was at school, he was like-loony labour- when i was at school, he was like loony labour left . it like the loony labour left. iti was—livingstone like the loony labour left. it- was_livingstone and was him and ken livingstone and ttet— was him and ken livingstone and ttet wes— was him and ken livingstone and that was diane— was him and ken livingstone and that was diane abbott and so on. ttt— that was diane abbott and so on. ttet—et- that was diane abbott and so on. ant—ct ttn i and there are pictures of him wttt—

and there are pictures of him wttt-certwn- and there are pictures of him with _corbyn and- and there are pictures of him with corbyn and so on. so with jeremy corbyn and so on. so it's with jeremy corbyn and so on. so its gntte— with jeremy corbyn and so on. so it's quite interesting as well ttet— it's quite interesting as well ttet-ts— it's quite interesting as well that-is picking- it's quite interesting as well that is picking that up that starmer is picking that up tecnse— that starmer is picking that up tecnse ttet— that starmer is picking that up because they actually because they were actually a source of a lot— because they were actually a source of a lot of— because they were actually a source of a lot of people that te-s— source of a lot of people that te-s tet— source of a lot of people that te-s tet te— source of a lot of people that he's had to put— source of a lot of people that he's had to put out of the party- — he's had to put out of the net. since— he's had to put out of the party. since you know, for being far party. since you know, for being ter—snct- party. since you know, for being ter—snct e- party. since you know, for being far—such a weird. far too hard left. such a weird etern— far too hard left. such a weird ctetnltt-s— far too hard left. such a weird claim-it's been— far too hard left. such a weird claim it's been years claim is it's been 36 years snee— claim is it's been 36 years since .first_ claim is it's been 36 years since .first-mpsi claim is it's been 36 years- since .first-mps were since the first black mps were etectet. — since the first black mps were etectet. lea-ty— since the first black mps were elected. .easy to- since the first black mps were elected. ii a“c elected. so easy to check and there's been not only james townsend, john henry, townsend, john stuart, henry, redhead. in redhead. yorke peter mclagan in scotland been many. scotland there's been so many. it's you it's like, why? what are you doing? but it is doing? say that. yeah, but it is interesting— doing? say that. yeah, but it is interesting now— doing? say that. yeah, but it is interesting now that— ctitt “tcg7 yeah, but it is interesting now that you know, tecnse— interesting now that you know, teense eeente— interesting now that you know, because people to just because people do like to just tete— because people do like to just tete-tece— because people do like to just take _face value - because people do like to just take face value that take things at face value that new-ttese - take things at face value that now-these kind- now there are these kind of wings— now there are these kind of tttngsletece— now there are these kind of things place you kind of things in place that you kind of go, oh,— things in place that you kind of go, en. te— things in place that you kind of get on. teng— things in place that you kind of go, oh, no, hang on straight ewew. — go, oh, no, hang on straight ewew. ven— go, oh, no, hang on straight away- wen cen— go, oh, no, hang on straight away. you can yeah, that's away. you can go, yeah, that's net—tene- away. you can go, yeah, that's net—tewe te- away. you can go, yeah, that's not—have to sign. away. you can go, yeah, that's not—have to sign if not true. you have to sign up if you to do it, though, if you want to do it, though, if you want to do it, though, if you want to be twitter notes, you want to do it, though, if yifactant to be twitter notes, you want to do it, though, if yifact checker, twitter notes, you want to do it, though, if yifact checker, could er notes, you want to do it, though, if yifact checker, could er niyou a fact checker, i could see you doing it. simon. i could totally see .correcting. _ ctitt “cg . simon. i could totally see correcting. people. see you correcting. people. wetter— see you correcting. people. monitor dobbing everyone in liar ttet—tines- monitor dobbing everyone in liar liar,_times now,- liar, pants on fire times now, wtet— liar, pants on fire times now, wtet-net— liar, pants on fire times now, nick-not all— liar, pants on fire times now, nick not all kinds of photos nick and not all kinds of photos . surveillance— nick and not all kinds of photos . surveillance-welcome. nick and not all kinds of photos . surveillance are welcome even in by the of it. in china by the sound of it. yeah. is cracked down on yeah. this is cracked down on cttnese— yeah. this is cracked down on chinese street— yeah. this is cracked down on chinese street photography after etctnre—se- chinese street photography after picture—so therei picture exposed affair. so there wes—ttts- picture exposed affair. so there was—this executive| was a picture of this executive ent— was a picture of this executive ent te— was a picture of this executive ent te wes— was a picture of this executive and he was with— was a picture of this executive and he was with his employee

siest— and he was with his employee slash mistress.— and he was with his employee slash mistress. and unfortunately this got him and her unfortunately this got him and ten sectet— unfortunately this got him and ten sectet .— unfortunately this got him and her sacked . and— unfortunately this got him and her sacked . and because, of her sacked. and because, of course, people _ her sacked. and because, of course, people can just take etetes— course, people can just take etetes et— course, people can just take etetes et wen— course, people can just take photos of you everywhere. it's a big photos of you everywhere. it's a rig-wetting— photos of you everywhere. it's a big walking around big problem walking around teneen— big problem walking around london, you're— big problem walking around london, you're constantly in neewe-s— london, you're constantly in eeente-s—tewngi people's videos and having to set—wett- people's videos and having toj sort _wait.them sort of stop and wait for them to sort of stop and wait for them te—r— sort of stop and wait for them te—r ttne- sort of stop and wait for them te—r findlveryl to film it. so i find it very ennewtng— to film it. so i find it very ennewtng ent— to film it. so i find it very annoying and intrusive. i don't went— annoying and intrusive. i don't went te— annoying and intrusive. i don't went teltn— annoying and intrusive. i don't want to.in your— annoying and intrusive. i don't want to in your video or you want to be in your video or you at want to be in your video or you et-ere— want to be in your video or you at-are-committing. at least are not committing etntterw — adultery. no, well, not necessarily, _ adultery. no, well, not- necessarily, _wanted to. necessarily, but if i wanted to. sinew — necessarily, but if i wanted to. sinew wett— necessarily, but if i wanted to. simon well, personally, i have to simon well, personally, i have tnnetten— simon well, personally, i have to-married. it's— simon well, personally, i have to married. it's very to get married. it's a very tetertens— to get married. it's a very laborious i laborious process. then then i newe— laborious process. then then i tewe-tte— laborious process. then then i have-the baltic.- laborious process. then then i have the baltic. then i'd have to do the baltic. then i'd newe— have to do the baltic. then i'd tewelget— have to do the baltic. then i'd have-get someone- have to do the baltic. then i'd have get someone film it. have to get someone to film it. so have to get someone to film it. se-wett— have to get someone to film it. se-wertt rt.- have to get someone to film it. so-worth it. but- so it's barely worth it. but sever— so it's barely worth it. but severe-et- so it's barely worth it. but several of worth. so it's barely worth it. but- several-of worth. yeah. several stages of worth. yeah. so several stages of worth. yeah. se ent— several stages of worth. yeah. se ent-cttne— several stages of worth. yeah. so and-china is— several stages of worth. i/tia“ so and china is saying so and so china is saying we nnst— so and so china is saying we must realise— so and so china is saying we must realise that— so and so china is saying we must realise that prevalence must realise that the prevalence street— street photography has extended into people's private lives. tnnnv—te- into people's private lives.- funny_be worried funny for china to be worried ettent— funny for china to be worried about-private- funny for china to be worried about private lives . about people's private lives. ttts— about people's private lives. ttts ts— about people's private lives. ttts ts wtet— about people's private lives. this is what struck- about people's private lives. this is what struck me- about people's private lives. this is what struck me is- this is what struck me is because they're the most because it's they're the most photographed people on the planet, also planet, aren't they? but also the planet, aren't they? but also tte—ertvecv- planet, aren't they? but also tte—ertvecv enl planet, aren't they? but also. the—privacy on the the most like of privacy on the etenet— the most like of privacy on the etenetlwett. — the most like of privacy on the planet-well. .that's- planet as well. so that's exactly what i but the exactly what i mean. but the i don't know whether there is any attempt by the state so far to sort of enforce morality. sort of enforce the morality. i suppose they do that. suppose they wouldn't do that. this man just shamed. this man has just been shamed. right. job. do right. but he's lost his job. do you instance, you mean in this instance, in this example? yeah. this particular example? yeah. what is he's walking what i mean is he's walking around holding hands with his

girlfriend shouldn't girlfriend that he shouldn't be. and caught street and he's been caught by a street photographer. also photographer. but he would also have been by probably have been caught by probably hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it would have been very easy hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it would have been very easy hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it to )uld have been very easy hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it to get. but been very easy hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it to get. but als0| very easy hundreds of cctv cameras and so on. it to get. but also that'seasy for it to get. but also that's ttet— for it to get. but also that's was that tiktok_ . tcgti. but also that's was that tiktok thing with tttttte— was that tiktok thing with phillip schofield, with the boy ttet— phillip schofield, with the boy ttet-tnew.— phillip schofield, with the boy that - know, that - phillip schofield, with the boy that know, that was just that was you know, that was just cengtt— that was you know, that was just cengtt en— that was you know, that was just caught on camera.— that was you know, that was just caught on camera. so people get cengtt—ett— caught on camera. so people get cengtt—ett tte- caught on camera. so people get caught all the time. caught on camera all the time. tte— caught on camera all the time. tte ene— caught on camera all the time. the one positive— caught on camera all the time. the one positive is— caught on camera all the time. the one positive is that- caught on camera all the time. the one positive is that the- the one positive is that the dress was wearing has gone dress she was wearing has gone viral everyone's buying it. viral and everyone's buying it. okay. there we go. there's etwevs— okay. there we go. there'si always—cloud okay. there we go. there's- always_cloud you always this like every cloud you get-,— always this like every cloud you get-. gnertten. - always this like every cloud you get , guardian. \ttiitti�* get the look, guardian. now, gnertten— get the look, guardian. now, gnerttet new— get the look, guardian. now, gnertten .— get the look, guardian. now, guardian now , jojo. auction guardian now, jojo. auction shenanigans. right okay, so channel 4 have— shenanigans. right okay, so channel 4 have been- t“ cg ?tcg“. okay, so channel 4 have been criticised net— channel 4 have been criticised over not genuine— channel 4 have been criticised over not genuine banksy on the greetest— over not genuine banksy on the greatest auction— over not genuine banksy on the greatest auction .— over not genuine banksy on the greatest auction . so there's greatest auction. so there's a program— greatest auction. so there's a program tte— greatest auction. so there's a program, the greatest auction ttet— program, the greatest auction ttet tnew-ve— program, the greatest auction that they've basically there was senetetv— that they've basically there was senetetv wte— that they've basically there was somebody who said it wasn't a genntne— somebody who said it wasn't a genntne tentsv.— somebody who said it wasn't a genuine banksy. they told the eretncers— genuine banksy. they told the producers that. _ genuine banksy. they told the producers that. then the eretncer— producers that. then the producer said— producers that. then the producer said they weren't going to producer said they weren't going te neve— producer said they weren't going te teve ttn — producer said they weren't going to have him on— producer said they weren't going to have him on the— producer said they weren't going to have him on the program teense— to have him on the program teense et— to have him on the program because of time— to have him on the program because of time constraints or senetttng. — because of time constraints or senetttng. se— because of time constraints or something. so he— because of time constraints or something. so he feels that he ttet— something. so he feels that he ttet te— something. so he feels that he was lied to stopped from was lied to or stopped from sewing— was lied to or stopped from sewing-tt— was lied to or stopped from saying-it wasn't- was lied to or stopped from saying it wasn't a genuine saying that it wasn't a genuine tentsv— saying that it wasn't a genuine banksy-cares?- saying that it wasn't a genuine. banksy-cares? because banksy. and who cares? because ttet— banksy. and who cares? because ttet vente— banksy. and who cares? because that would have— banksy. and who cares? because that would have spoilt exactly wte— that would have spoilt exactly who cares about— that would have spoilt exactly who cares about banks? t“

who cares about banks? this is a stet- — who cares about banks? this is a story- otev.— who cares about banks? this is a non story. okay. yeah. but who cares about banks? t“ “tit“ ti.tittth i/tia“ but this non story. okay. yeah. but this would non story. okay. yeah. but this wentt teve— non story. okay. yeah. but this would have spoilt— non story. okay. yeah. but this would have spoilt the- “tit“ ti.tittth cite/ca i/tia“ but this would have spoilt the narrative. ttet-s— would have spoilt the narrative. ttet-s wtet— would have spoilt the narrative. that's what they're saying, is it. —andl that's what they're saying, is. it. _tnt ttet it. oh, sorry. maybe and then after it was banksy, after they said it was a banksy, then somebody called silent bill came out said it was his. came out and said it was his. the only thing i can take eestttve— the only thing i can take positive-this- the only thing i can take positive-this is- the only thing i can take positive this is it channel positive from this is it channel 4 positive from this is it channel t—ttet-sl 4 are being criticised. that's all 4 are being criticised. that's err-ter— 4 are being criticised. that's ett-ter-ttt- 4 are being criticised. that'si all-for-all right. all i've got for it. all right. otev r— all i've got for it. all right. otev r enjoy— all i've got for it. all right. okay i enjoy that.- all i've got for it. i cg“. cite/gay i enjoy that. yeah, all i've got for it. i cg“. i enjoy that. yeah, it okay i enjoy that. yeah, it netes— okay i enjoy that. yeah, it makes me, you— i enjoy that. yeah, it makes me, you know. well, then, ttet-s— makes me, you know. well, then, that's—you. well,i that's good. thank you. well, i tnew— that's good. thank you. well, i tnew tte— that's good. thank you. well, i know the banksy— that's good. well, i know the banksy thing i think is a know the banksy thing i think is e ttt— know the banksy thing i think is e ttt et— know the banksy thing i think is e ttt et e— know the banksy thing i think is a bit of a possibly— know the banksy thing i think is a bit of a possibly a red tetng.— a bit of a possibly a red herring. whether or not it's ectnettv— herring. whether or not it's ectnettv e— herring. whether or not it's actually a banksy. the question is actually a banksy. the question ts—ttev-re- actually a banksy. the question ts—ttev-re trvtngi is whether or not they're trying to is whether or not they're trying te-e— is whether or not they're trying to-a scenarios- is whether or not they're trying to-a scenarios that- is whether or not they're trying to a scenarios that they to create a scenarios that they tnew— to create a scenarios that they tnew te— to create a scenarios that they tnew te te— to create a scenarios that they know to be false.— to create a scenarios that they know to be false. but i mean, ttet-s— know to be false. but i mean, ttet-s wtet— know to be false. but i mean, that's what the— know to be false. but i mean, that's what the whole of that ttne— that's what the whole of that ttnt et— that's what the whole of that ttnt ct tw— that's what the whole of that kind of tv genre— that's what the whole of that kind of tv genre is as well, tsn-t— kind of tv genre is as well, tsn-t tte— kind of tv genre is as well, tsn-t tte — kind of tv genre is as well, isn't it? ' .tigt kind of tv genre is as well, isn't it? ' .tii.gt . tit>t

congratulations. well- expecting that answer. simon,| congratulations. well-you congratulations. well done. you win—wtet. | win a point times now, nick. verv— win a point times now, nick. vet teng— win a point times now, nick. vet teng ttes— win a point times now, nick. very long times ago,- win a point times now, nick. very long times ago, in- win a point times now, nick. very long times ago, in fact. sounds like evolution go sounds like evolution can go backwards after all. yeah. checking all the egg scientists hatch a new theory. hatch. simon ttte— hatch a new theory. hatch. simon tttelegg— hatch a new theory. hatch. simon tttelegg .— hatch a new theory. hatch. simon tttelegg . se— hatch a new theory. hatch. simon like-egg . so that's— hatch a new theory. hatch. simon like-egg . so that's what- like an egg. so that's what ttet-ve— like an egg. so that's what ttev-ve gene— like an egg. so that's what they've gone with there. and testcettvt— basically, the whole point is ttet—ttet- basically, the whole point is- that_that dinosaurs that they thought that dinosaurs had that they thought that dinosaurs tee-ttter— that they thought that dinosaurs had-rather than— that they thought that dinosaurs had rather than live what had eggs rather than live what is t— had eggs rather than live what is it cetet— had eggs rather than live what is it called 7— had eggs rather than live what is it called ? it's— had eggs rather than live what is it called ? it's oviparous is it called? it's oviparous versus viviparous . you'll know versus viviparous. you'll know ttts.— versus viviparous. you'll know ttts. et— versus viviparous. you'll know ttts. et cenrse— versus viviparous. you'll know this, of course, whether you teve — this, of course, whether you teve en — this, of course, whether you teve en egg— this, of course, whether you teve en egg er— this, of course, whether you have an egg or a- this, of course, whether you have an egg or a live born tttng.— have an egg or a live born thing, animal— have an egg or a live born thing, animal dinosaur, in this et— thing, animal dinosaur, in this et ts— thing, animal dinosaur, in this case of is easy— thing, animal dinosaur, in this case of is easy because it's ttte— case of is easy because it's tte-tte— case of is easy because it's- like-the french. exactly. like lerf. the french. exactly. ttet-s— like lerf. the french. exactly. ttet-s tew— like lerf. the french. exactly. ttet-s new i— like lerf. iti i exactly. that's how i remember it. yeah ttt— that's how i remember it. yeah ant-ttte— that's how i remember it. yeah and-like life,— that's how i remember it. yeah and-like life, like- that's how i remember it. yeah and like life, like fever and viv is like life, like fever . ween.— and viv is like life, like fever . veet. tnvwevt— and viv is like life, like fever . yeah. anyway, let's press on wttt— . yeah. anyway, let's press on wttt ttts— . yeah. anyway, let's press on with this brilliant— . yeah. anyway, let's press on with this brilliant story . t“ with this brilliant story. this is with this brilliant story. this ts ee— with this brilliant story. this is st veer— with this brilliant story. this is 34 year old. _ with this brilliant story. this is 34 year old. yeah- with this brilliant story. this is 34 year old. yeah so- is 34 year old. yeah so dinosaurs are a tiis/i : / so dinosaurs are a psyop. is 34 year old. yeah so- dinosaurs are a psyop. anyway, tet-s— dinosaurs are a psyop. anyway, tet-s te— dinosaurs are a psyop. anyway, let's be honest.— dinosaurs are a psyop. anyway, let's be honest. dinosaurs eent— let's be honest. dinosaurs eent reet. — let's be honest. dinosaurs aren't real. they're there to. ttet-re— aren't real. they're there to. rtev-re ttere— aren't real. they're there to. they're there to— aren't real. they're there to. they're there to confuse christianity. _ they're there to confuse christianity. exactly. they're a site— christianity. exactly. they're a site we— christianity. exactly. they're a site we ett— christianity. exactly. they're a site we all know— christianity. exactly. they're a site we all know young earth ctrtstten— site we all know young earth christian,.well_ site we all know young earth christian,.well as- christian, as well as a christian.— christian, as well as a christian. yeah, course, christian. yeah, of course, ttrnesens— christian. yeah, of course, dinosaurs—buti christian. yeah, of course,i dinosaurs—but if dinosaurs aren't real, but if tnew—ttev-rei they were, because they're etwevs—tnt l they were, because they're . always—and here always changing it. and here tnew— always changing it. and here ttev ee— always changing it. and here ttev egetn.— always changing it. and here they are again. changing it. okav-— they are again. changing it. ttet-tet— they are again. changing it. omit-had e995-- they are again. changing it. okay. had eggs. they okay. they had eggs. oh, they ttet-t— okay. they had eggs. oh, theyi ttet-t—ttve didn't have eggs. they had live ttrnesens — didn't have eggs. they had live dinosaurs. well,— didn't have eggs. they had live dinosaurs. well, that's the tttng— dinosaurs. well, that's thei tttng—tteerv dinosaurs. well, that's the- thing_theory has thing is the general theory has etwevs—tevel always been, yeah, you have soft eggs—ttter-

always been, yeah, you have soft eggs—terter eggsi eggs then you have harder eggs and eggs then you have harder eggs ent tten— eggs then you have harder eggs ent tten ven— eggs then you have harder eggs and then you have— eggs then you have harder eggs and then you have live birth. ttet-re— and then you have live birth. ttet-re saying— and then you have live birth. they're saying there- and then you have live birth. they're saying there - live. they're saying there was live birth. went back birth. and then they went back to egg. to egg. to the egg. back to the egg. yeah. that is a bit yeah. which is. that is a bit unusual. the arrow unusual. that's like the arrow of being a scrambled egg, of time being a scrambled egg, period. but then he went back to. period. but then he went back te.-veet.— period. but then he went back te-veet. ttet— period. but then he went back to.-yeah. they-back to. yeah, yeah. they went back egetn. — to. yeah, yeah. they went back egetn. _tttntl again. what they didn't think cente— again. what they didn't think cenre—r- again. what they didn't think could—i don't. again. what they didn't think. could—i don't know. could happen, but i don't know. but—in— could happen, but i don't know. but—in danger- but now we're in danger of losing—and- but now we're in danger of losing—and thei but now we're in danger of- losing_and the egg losing the chicken and the egg argument,— losing the chicken and the egg argument,-think- losing the chicken and the egg argument, think we just argument, and i think we just need. — argument, and i think we just need. wen.— argument, and i think we just need. well, that— argument, and i think we just need. well, that one- argument, and i think we just need. well, that one is more of a one. ican need. well, that one is more of a one. i can answer that. a fat one. i can answer that. what— a fat one. i can answer that. what came— a fat one. i can answer that. what came first?— i can answer that. what came first? the chicken or the-was— what came first? the chicken or the-was-egg- what came first? the chicken or the was egg because the egg? it was the egg because there—been- the egg? it was the egg because there been something there would have been something prior—that— there would have been something prior—that would- prior to a chicken that would have—an- prior to a chicken that wouldi eeveee— egg. prior to a chicken that would- eeveee— egg. eee have been hatched in an egg. and then— have been hatched in an egg. and eeen-e— have been hatched in an egg. and then-a mutant— have been hatched in an egg. and then-a mutant that- have been hatched in an egg. and then a mutant that turned then it had a mutant that turned out to— then it had a mutant that turned out to be— then it had a mutant that turned out to be e— then it had a mutant that turned out to be a chicken. there then it had a mutant that turned out to bt—rex cken. there then it had a mutant that turned out to bt—rex came there then it had a mutant that turned out to bt—rex came before 'e then it had a mutant that turned out to bt—rex came before the you go. t—rex came before the chicken.— you go. t—rex came before the emcee—eel you go. t—rex came before thei chicken._are the chicken. we know those are the same,-because- chicken. we know those are the same, because they're same, right? because they're esee— same, right? because they're used in— same, right? because they're used in pet— same, right? because they're used in pet adverts to say you women-e— used in pet adverts to say you women-ene— used in pet adverts to say you wouldn't-a t—rex- used in pet adverts to say you wouldn't a t—rex you wouldn't eat a t—rex or you seeeeee-e— wouldn't eat a t—rex or you shouldn't eat— wouldn't eat a t—rex or you shouldn't eat a— wouldn't eat a t—rex or you shouldn't eat a chicken. you ee— shouldn't eat a chicken. you seee—ne. - shouldn't eat a chicken. you see?_ no. that'si see? seen that? no. that's pete.— see? seen that? no. that's peter. - peter, - see? seen that? no. that's. peter. - peter, right? see? seen that? no. that's peter. yeah. peter, right? see? seen that? no. that's peter. yeah. p4: " c ? see? seen that? no. that's peter. yeah. .thouldn't? eat yeah. yeah. why wouldn't you eat a t—rex? i know. kill a t—rex. absolutely— a t—rex? i know. kill a t—rex. absolutely insane. _ 311m? killat—rex. absolutely insane. /11. z 311m? killat—rex. absolutely insane. 0:1. z absolutely insane. you'd be amazing-— absolutely insane. you'd be amazing. then you cook it. you'd absolutely insane. you'd be amlike g. then you cook it. you'd absolutely insane. you'd be amlike the hen you cook it. you'd absolutely insane. you'd be amlike the king ou cook it. you'd absolutely insane. you'd be amlike the king ou coonungle. i be like the king of the jungle. and would taste like frogs. and it would taste like frogs. it and it would taste like frogs. n eeetes— and it would taste like frogs. it tastes like _ and it would taste like frogs. it tastes like chicken. i expect.— it tastes like chicken. i expect, what expect, you know, that's what they say. tastes like they always say. tastes like chicken. — they always say. tastes like chicken. _our- they always say. tastes like chicken. our final story they always say. tastes like chic evening. our final story they always say. tastes like chic evening. and our final story they always say. tastes like chic evening. and if ur final story they always say. tastes like chic evening. and if this nal story they always say. tastes like chic evening. and if this works,ry

this evening. and if this works, i mean, it should be a headline news, perhaps, well news, perhaps, but. well a hitch, doubt. jojo and is hitch, no doubt. jojo and is this to hitch, no doubt. jojo and is this-to unlimited. hitch, no doubt. jojo and is. this-to unlimited clean this the key to unlimited clean energy— this the key to unlimited clean energy scientists— this the key to unlimited clean energy scientists beam solar power— energy scientists beam solar power ee— energy scientists beam solar power to earth— energy scientists beam solar power to earth from space in were— power to earth from space in world fleet. — power to earth from space in world first. so— power to earth from space in world first. so basically we eme— world first. so basically we this because— world first. so basically we this because the solar panels eepeeeeeey— this because the solar panels eppeeeeey eee— this because the solar panels apparently can be a blot on the eeeeeeepe— apparently can be a blot on the eeeeeeepe eee— apparently can be a blot on the landscape and are— apparently can be a blot on the landscape and are practically eeeeeee— landscape and are practically useless when— landscape and are practically useless when it's dark . useless when it's dark. obviously— useless when it's dark. obviously they're now going to fire obviously they're now going to flee eee— obviously they're now going to fire solar panels— obviously they're now going to fire solar panels up into into epeee— fire solar panels up into into epeee ee— fire solar panels up into into epeee ee eeet— fire solar panels up into into space so that they can harvest eee— space so that they can harvest the — space so that they can harvest the ze— space so that they can harvest the sun 24 over— space so that they can harvest the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but i think— the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but i nnnk n-e— the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but innink n-e e— the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but i think it's a lot— the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but i think it's a lot of— the sun 24 over seven. yeah, but i think it's a lot of effort to go ne— i think it's a lot of effort to go to n— i think it's a lot of effort to go to if things— i think it's a lot of effort to go to if things are a blot on nne— go to if things are a blot on the landscape.— go to if things are a blot on the landscape. there's a lot of enen— the landscape. there's a lot of one nnnge— the landscape. there's a lot of other things i— the landscape. there's a lot of other things i would like to eeese— other things i would like to nest nee— other things i would like to blast into space— other things i would like to blast into space first. will blast into space first. well, enet-e— blast into space first. well, enet-e e— blast into space first. well, then e gene— blast into space first. well, that's a good that's a good point. for another point. but perhaps for another time. you think time. what about do you think this workable, this could be workable, nick? well, if england is so well, i wonder if england is so cloudy. iwonder well, i wonder if england is so cloudy. i wonder if even our eneee— cloudy. i wonder if even our spacelcloudv- — f: i wonder if even our space cloudy. that's. that's space is cloudy. that's. that's my— space is cloudy. that's. that's ny—nienn- space is cloudy. that's. that's ny—nignn nenl space is cloudy. that's. that'si ny—nignn not be my concern. that might not be scientific.— my concern. that might not be eeennnelu— my concern. that might not be scientific,-i.like- scientific, but i do like this. one— scientific, but i do like this. one enee— scientific, but i do like this. our skies-great- scientific, but i do like this. our skies-great all- scientific, but i do like this. | our skies-great all-way scientific, but i do like this. | our that's i great all .way scientific, but i do like this. | our that's whateat all-way scientific, but i do like this. | our that's what i'mall-way scientific, but i do like this. ourthat's what i'm thinking. i up. that's what i'm thinking. i hope but this. the only hope so. but this. the only tnne— hope so. but this. the only nine .— hope so. but this. the only nine i like— hope so. but this. the only thing i like about this is not ene— thing i like about this is not ene enn— thing i like about this is not the only thing,— thing i like about this is not the only thing, but it came from

neee—ee- the only thing, but it came from neeeee— eel the only thing, but it came from isaac asimov. you know, as as a finitene— isaac asimov. you know, as as a fictitious idea. _ isaac asimov. you know, as as a fictitious idea. .now- fictitious idea. it's now a reality almost, is. but reality almost, if it is. but there's a thing. have you not heard dyson sphere? heard of the dyson sphere? well, most of scientific most of our scientific innovations created innovations were created by asimov clarke in stories 50 asimov or clarke in stories 50 years we just gradually years ago, and we just gradually get through. get used to them coming through. there thing called the there was a thing called the dyson do dyson sphere. it's nothing to do with cleaners. with with the vacuum cleaners. and sufficiently and he said any sufficiently advanced civilisation, when you spot it, the first thing you'll see is that its sun is enclosed in a harness energy harvesting sphere you'll know sphere. that's how you'll know they're go . so that's they're there you go. so that's what we're on our way to getting. going getting. we're going to be sufficiently advanced. very sufficiently advanced. it's very nearly now , folks. let's nearly over now, folks. let's take another look take another quick look at tuesday's front pages . the daily tuesday's front pages. the daily mail have a vision of kyrees britain migrants on boats and just stop oil looks familiar. the guardian outrage as woman jailed for abortion after legal cut off the financial times mps to grill city watchdog over oday investigation and farewell silvio berlusconi. the times ex—pm was not told he had a bad covid rules the independent

boris. i didn't ask pm to bend on his rules. he's talking rubbish . the daily star ufo rubbish. the daily star ufo crash hushed up by the pope , crash hushed up by the pope, yada yada. those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. my thanks to guest jojo sutherland and nick dixon. we're back tomorrow at 11 pm. andrew doyle be joined by josh back tomorrow at 11 pm. andrew doyle and be joined by josh back tomorrow at 11 pm. andrew doyle and dianeied by josh back tomorrow at 11 pm. andrew doyle and diane spencer. sh back tomorrow at 11 pm. andrew doyle and diane spencer. if howie and diane spencer. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned breakfast .