the police are at efforts. us. the police are at an early stage of their investigation . right now, investigation. right now, they've got to carry out a lot of work to determine the precise motive behind this incident. i'm in regular contact with the chief constable of nottinghamshire shire police, but i want to take this opportunity to urge anybody who has any information about this incident to come forward and report it to the police. nottinghamshire police have report it to the police. - nottinghamshire police have said they— nottinghamshire police have said they were— nottinghamshire police have said they were working— nottinghamshire police have said they were working alongside counter—terrorism police on we.— counter—terrorism police on we. we— counter—terrorism police on this. is there— counter—terrorism police on this. is there anything at this stage— this. is there anything at this stage we— this. is there anything at this stage to suggest— this. is there anything at this stage to suggest that this could be e— stage to suggest that this could be e eewe— stage to suggest that this could be a terror related— stage to suggest that this could be a terror related incident? wee— be a terror related incident? were we— be a terror related incident? were w e— be a terror related incident? were w e very— be a terror related incident? we're in a very early stage of we— we're in a very early stage of the investigation. �*fw�*wz; : the investigation. we need to wow— the investigation. we need to allow the police the time and the space to carry out all of their operational active kitty to determine the motive. it's right that nottinghamshire police are working with counter terrorism policing, but it's

also fair to say that everybody in all professionals on the front line are keeping an open mind as to what the precise motive might have been. do the police know who they're dealing with in terms of the suspect? i mean, do they know who they have in mean, do they know who they have we eweeeew— mean, do they know who they have we eweeeew ewe— mean, do they know who they have in custody and do— mean, do they know who they have in custody and do they know who the victims— in custody and do they know who the victims are— in custody and do they know who the victims are and— in custody and do they know who the victims are and whether were— the victims are and whether there we— the victims are and whether there we ew— the victims are and whether there is any link— the victims are and whether there is any link between them? where— there is any link between them? were ee— there is any link between them? there are some— there is any link between them? there are some things— there is any link between them? there are some things we- there is any link between them? there are some things we do know right now. we obviously know that, three that, sadly, tragically, three people killed. we know people have been killed. we know that a knife has been used in some of those killings and a suspect has been arrested on suspicion of murder by nottinghamshire police . goodness nottinghamshire police. goodness gracious me. it's absolutely sickening— gracious me. it's absolutely sickening and— get it's absolutely sickening and shocking wgfiewt it's absolutely sickening and shocking , wgt?wt it's absolutely sickening and shocking , isn't sickening and shocking, isn't it? sickening and shocking, isn't we we— sickening and shocking, isn't we we wee— sickening and shocking, isn't we we new 90— sickening and shocking, isn't it? do not go anywhere. we're going— it? do not go anywhere. we're going we— it? do not go anywhere. we're gewwg we have— it? do not go anywhere. we're going to have all— it? do not go anywhere. we're going to have all of the latest on going to have all of the latest ew ewe. — going to have all of the latest ew ewe. mew— going to have all of the latest on this. mark white will join me in on this. mark white will join me we we— on this. mark white will join me we we e— on this. mark white will join me in just a second.— on this. mark white will join me in just a second. but before we get in just a second. but before we gee wee— in just a second. but before we gee wwwe whee,— in just a second. but before we get into that, let's— in just a second. but before we get into that, let's get ourselves— get into that, let's get ourselves ito - get into that, let's get ourselves to speed with all ourselves up to speed with all the ourselves up to speed with all we weweew— ourselves up to speed with all the latest headlines with polly wweewewwew— the latest headlines with polly middlehurst ._ the latest headlines with polly middlehurst . which michelle,

middlehurst. which michelle, week— middlehurst. which michelle, ewewwwew. — middlehurst. which michelle, thank you. well,— middlehurst. which michelle, thank you. �*fww�*wzigc middlehurst. which michelle, thank you. wg thank you. well, let's bring you up to date on events in nottingham. and in the last few moments you may have seen police have held a news conference saying they're continuing to search after three search for a motive after three people killed separate people were killed in separate incidents in the early hours of this morning nottingham, gb this morning in nottingham, gb news understands the prime suspect is in fact a west african migrant with a history of violence to two of the three people killed were students at the university of nottingham . the university of nottingham. both were aged 19 years old, fresh as at the university. they were stabbed while walking near the students halls of residence on ilkeston road nearby. police say they then found the body of a 50 year old man on magdala road. that individual is believed to have had his vehicle stolen. police were then called to another street in nottingham where a van attempted to run over three people and then a 31 year old man was arrested by police on suspicion of murder. chief constable kate main

explained the suspects actions. a man in his 50s was also found dead from knife injuries in magdala road by a member of the public. at the moment we believe whee— public. at the moment we believe we we— public. at the moment we believe that the suspect— public. at the moment we believe that the suspect has— t. at the moment we believe that the suspect has stolen wt. at the moment we believe that the suspect has stolen this wewewe— that the suspect has stolen this man's vehicle and— that the suspect has stolen this man's vehicle and driven it to minew— man's vehicle and driven it to milton street— man's vehicle and driven it to milton street ,_ man's vehicle and driven it to milton street , where he is then milton street, where he is then ewwew— milton street, where he is then ewwew ew— milton street, where he is then driven at members of the public. we driven at members of the public. we we— driven at members of the public. we swu— driven at members of the public. we are still in— driven at members of the public. we are still in the— driven at members of the public. we are still in the early stages of we are still in the early stages ew whe— we are still in the early stages of the investigation in and need to of the investigation in and need we eewewmwwe— of the investigation in and need to determine exactly what the meme— to determine exactly what the motives were _ to determine exactly what the motives were behind this attack . wen,— motives were behind this attack . weu, wee-e— motives were behind this attack . well, let's look— motives were behind this attack . well, let's look at pictures right— . well, let's look at pictures right ew— . well, let's look at pictures right now from _ . well, let's look at pictures right now from the vigil that's being— right now from the vigil that's being hete— right now from the vigil that's being held for— right now from the vigil that's being held for the community to remember those— being held for the community to remember those who died in weeew-e— remember those who died in today's attack— remember those who died in today's attack . _ remember those who died in today's attack . ? gw today's attack. university students and the local community at saint peter's church in the heart of nottingham . they heart of nottingham. they earlier on were laying down flowers. there were candles lit. and, of course, they've been paying and, of course, they've been paying their respects and kneeling in prayer. the university graduates ball, which was due to take place tonight, has been cancelled as a mark of

respect . well, in other news respect. well, in other news today, two police officers have been served with gross misconduct notices in connection with the deaths of two teenagers in cardiff , kyrees sullivan and in cardiff, kyrees sullivan and harvey evans died last month. shortly after they were seen on cctv riding. an e—bike followed by a police van. the police regulator says their conduct doesn't mean disciplinary proceedings will necessarily follow the covid inquiry was told today the uk may not have been very well prepared to deal with the pandemic. lead lawyer hugo keith, kc , said the nation hugo keith, kc, said the nation was taken by surprise and argued brexit had distracted the government from improving its strategy to tackle the disease . strategy to tackle the disease. the inquiry also heard local health chiefs were repeatedly excluded from pandemic planning . the most you can hope is to ewe— . the most you can hope is to give yew— . the most you can hope is to give yew wewee— . the most you can hope is to give your loved one- the most you can hope is to give your loved one a good death and we— give your loved one a good death and we wu—

give your loved one a good death and we will forever— give your loved one a good death and we will forever carry the gum— and we will forever carry the gene whee— and we will forever carry the guilt that our— and we will forever carry the guilt that our daddy was denied . whee— guilt that our daddy was denied . whee w-m— guilt that our daddy was denied . we we angry— guilt that our daddy was denied . we we angry .— guilt that our daddy was denied . that i'm angry. i— guilt that our daddy was denied . that i'm angry. i need questions answered. i'm just still hurt. and i'm still upset. and the time that he needed me most, i wasn't there . and that. most, i wasn't there. and that. and i most, i wasn't there. and that. and w feet— most, i wasn't there. and that. and i feel guilty— most, i wasn't there. and that. and i feel guilty about- c ti and that. and i feel guilty about that. even— and i feel guilty about that. even ewewgw— and i feel guilty about that. even though it— and i feel guilty about that. even though it wasn't my fault . even though it wasn't my fault. wee— even though it wasn't my fault. wee eme— even though it wasn't my fault. wee ef— even though it wasn't my fault. just some of the— even though it wasn't my fault. just some of the thoughts- even though it wasn't my fault. just some of the thoughts and feelings of those who suffered most during the covid 19 pandemic. those played in the covid 19 inquiry today. now, homeowners are being warned of further interest rate hikes after the latest data showed wages have risen at their fastest rate on record post—pandemic. that puts more pressure on the bank of england as it tries to kerb inflation. wages, excluding bonuses, were 7.2% higher in the three months to april. unemployment also unexpectedly fell . a mother and unexpectedly fell. a mother and her partner have been convicted

over the death of a nine year old boy . alfie steel had 50 old boy. alfie steel had 50 injuries on his body and was found at their home in droitwich in worcestershire. carlos scott was found guilty of manslaughter and her partner, dirk howell, was convicted of the little boy's murder . and in the united boy's murder. and in the united states, former president donald trump is due to appear in court in miami , trump is due to appear in court in miami, florida, trump is due to appear in court in miami , florida, today. mr in miami, florida, today. mr trump facing 37 charges of mishandling classified documents , and he's accused of unlawful keeping us national security data. he's the first current or former president to face criminal charges . those are your criminal charges. those are your latest news headlines you are up to date on tv online dab+ radio , and on the tunein app. you're with gb news . with gb news. us thanks for that, with gb news. us- . thanks for that, polly. with gb news. us—

- thanks for that, polly. well, with gb news. us— - tharjustor that, polly. well, with gb news. us— - tharjust tuning polly. well, with gb news. us— - tharjust tuning in, lly. well, with gb news. us— - tharjust tuning in, three ell, if you are just tuning in, three people— if you are just tuning in, three peewe wave— if you are just tuning in, three people have died— if you are just tuning in, three people have died in nottingham. it's absolutely— people have died in nottingham. it's absolutely horrendous . it's absolutely horrendous. we-we— it's absolutely horrendous. we-we been— it's absolutely horrendous. we've been right across this all day— we've been right across this all day long— we've been right across this all day wewg were — we've been right across this all day long from our— we've been right across this all day long from our home and security— day long from our home and security editor— day long from our home and security editor mark white is where— security editor mark white is were wee— security editor mark white is there has been— security editor mark white is there has been there for most of there has been there for most of we dew.— there has been there for most of we dav- lew-e— there has been there for most of the day. let's cross— there has been there for most of the day. let's cross to him and get— the day. let's cross to him and gee ew— the day. let's cross to him and gee en upwe— the day. let's cross to him and get an update. mark, can you bring— get an update. mark, can you bring we— get an update. mark, can you wine we we— get an update. mark, can you wine we we we— get an update. mark, can you bring us up to speed, please, with— bring us up to speed, please, were we— bring us up to speed, please, were we wew— bring us up to speed, please, with the very latest? just well , we — with the very latest? just well we weewwe— with the very latest? just well , the breaking news that we eweweww— , the breaking news that we wewgww yew,— , the breaking news that we brought you, about 40 minutes or so brought you, about 40 minutes or ee age— brought you, about 40 minutes or so ago was a confirmation from a renewe— so ago was a confirmation from a wewewe ewee— so ago was a confirmation from a reliable source that— so ago was a confirmation from a reliable source that the prime eweeeew— reliable source that the prime eweeeew w— reliable source that the prime suspect in the— reliable source that the prime suspect in the murder of these wwee— suspect in the murder of these wwee peepwe— suspect in the murder of these three people and— suspect in the murder of these three people and the injury of twee— three people and the injury of three others— three people and the injury of three others is— three people and the injury of three others is in— three people and the injury of three others is in a west wweew— three others is in a west african migrant with a history of african migrant with a history ewweewwee — african migrant with a history of violence. now,- african migrant with a history of violence. \wwiwww of violence. now, this individual is in police custody at the moment. he was arrested around about 530 this morning after the white van that he now , according to police, stole from one of the victims that was

murdered in these attacks, was used to plough down three other people on milton street right in the centre of nottingham. he was arrested and tasered by armed officers powers and he's been brought in to custody. now. there has been no official confirmation from authorities about the background of this individual. it is fairly early on in the inquiry. individual. it is fairly early on in the inquiry . you wouldn't on in the inquiry. you wouldn't necessarily expect that that to be the case. but clearly now the pressure will be on, not so much for the police , but certainly for the police, but certainly the politicians to confirm just what the status of this individual was. was he here legitimate , only working in the legitimate, only working in the uk ? was he an asylum seeker? was uk? was he an asylum seeker? was he someone who had overstayed his visa? lots of legitimate questions that need to be answered because with them come the other questions that need to be answered about the history of

violence that we're told is attached to this individual was that violence perpetrator covid in west africa before he travelled to the uk and if so, whether there enough in the way of checks to determine whether this person was the kind of person who was not a threat to the public or was the these incidents of violence , were they incidents of violence, were they committed while he was in the uk? these are questions we still don't know the answer to. this particular stage. we are still at an early stage in the investigate nation. it's not been treated as an act of terrorism. there it appears, doesn't seem to be the kind of evidence that points authorities in the direction of any kind of political link to the events that took place . but that took place. but counter—terror police, the regional counter terrorism unit is helping nottinghamshire

police out with its ongoing investigation , as you would investigation, as you would understand, given the gravity of the acts that unfolded in the early hours of this morning . early hours of this morning. yeah, mark, i remember i think i weww— yeah, mark, i remember i think i weww mwew— yeah, mark, i remember i think i was pretty much live actually whee— was pretty much live actually when we— was pretty much live actually when the car— was pretty much live actually when the car went into to the wee— when the car went into to the ewes ew— when the car went into to the gates of downing— when the car went into to the gates of downing street. you remember that— gates of downing street. you remember that as well. it was very— remember that as well. it was wew weeeww— remember that as well. it was very recently and— remember that as well. it was very recently and it felt to me wwww— very recently and it felt to me within almost— very recently and it felt to me within almost kind of minutes, but within almost kind of minutes, we wew— within almost kind of minutes, we wew quickly— within almost kind of minutes, but very quickly indeed that as we fewe— but very quickly indeed that as we wewwe ewe— but very quickly indeed that as we found out almost instantly , we found out almost instantly, it we found out almost instantly, w fewe— we found out almost instantly, w few we,— we found out almost instantly, it felt like, right,— we found out almost instantly, it felt like, right, okay, this is new— it felt like, right, okay, this is not terror.— it felt like, right, okay, this is not terror. i— it felt like, right, okay, this is not terror. i remember raising— is not terror. i remember ewewe ew— is not terror. i remember raising an eyebrow while i was on raising an eyebrow while i was en ew— raising an eyebrow while i was en we eeeewee— raising an eyebrow while i was on air because we— raising an eyebrow while i was on air because we was immediately- on air because we was immediately getting the feedback that immediately getting the feedback wwew ewe— immediately getting the feedback we ewe-e— immediately getting the feedback that this-a white— immediately getting the feedback that this a white male that that this was a white male that wee— that this was a white male that wee-wee— that this was a white male that wee-wee we— that this was a white male that had-into the gates- that this was a white male that had into the gates like had driven into the gates like we— had driven into the gates like ewe-ewe— had driven into the gates like this.-come in- had driven into the gates like this. come in that this. so how come in that wewewee— this. so how come in that instance it— this. so how come in that instance it was- this. so how come in that instance it was so quick that weewmewew— instance it was so quick that information like— instance it was so quick that information like this was coming instance it was so quick that inforwhereas ke this was coming instance it was so quick that inforwhereas in this was coming instance it was so quick that inforwhereas in this one coming instance it was so quick that inforwhereas in this one we'reig out, whereas in this one we're saying— out, whereas in this one we're ewwwg w-wee— out, whereas in this one we're ewwwg eew— out, whereas in this one we're saying we've got credible sources, etcetera, but it's not yet— sources, etcetera, but it's not vet—by- sources, etcetera, but it's not wee—w wel yet been confirmed by the police-— yet been confirmed by the pewee. www— yet been confirmed by the police. why the delay ? “43?" police. why the delay? yeah, i w— police. why the delay? yeah, i w wink— police. why the delay? yeah, i mean, i think in the in the instance of downing street , had instance of downing street, had that been a very significant

incident with multiple fatalities, then there would have been a lot of delving into the background of this individual beyond just the person that you see in the car and that would take some time. and there would be all kinds of questions around whether this was a political motivation and looking into contacts , etcetera. looking into contacts, etcetera. it was clearly i think the police were confident enough to say at an early stage age that actually the issue was some kind of grievance that this man had with authority over a number of issues that he had quite publicly shared with the officers who had detained him that told him it wasn't an act or an intended act of terrorism . um, with this particular man , . um, with this particular man, we don't know whether he is being cooperating with authorities . but regardless of authorities. but regardless of that, the fact that three people have been stabbed to death , have been stabbed to death, three other people run over , one three other people run over, one still critically injured , and

still critically injured, and that requires a full level delve into the background of this individual to determine just who he is , who is connected to if he he is, who is connected to if he has any affiliations and contacts to extremist groups or political movements . s all of political movements. s all of that will take time and will need to be looked into. there's nothing, it seems , is pointing nothing, it seems, is pointing in that direction at the moment, but it doesn't mean that he didn't have a motivation that was still you know, a, you know, an absolutely terrible, murderous attack for whatever might have been the particular motivation or reason will only come out in the fullness of time if and when this individual is formally charged . following the formally charged. following the events of this morning . events of this morning. gracious me, shocking stuff. mew,— gracious me, shocking stuff. mew, week— gracious me, shocking stuff. mark, thank you _ gracious me, shocking stuff. mark, thank you for keeping us up mark, thank you for keeping us we we— mark, thank you for keeping us we we ewe.— mark, thank you for keeping us we we we we— mark, thank you for keeping us up to date. and i'm very eewweeww— up to date. and i'm very confident that- up to date. and i'm very confident that as soon as we get an confident that as soon as we get ew weee— confident that as soon as we get we weewe, mew— confident that as soon as we get an update, mark will be back we— an update, mark will be back wee-we— an update, mark will be back with ito bring— an update, mark will be back with ito bring-up- an update, mark will be back with to bring up to speed. with us to bring us up to speed. wewww— with us to bring us up to speed. kelvin mackenzie,— with us to bring us up to speed.

kelvin mackenzie, matthew seawee— kelvin mackenzie, matthew stadlen keep— kelvin mackenzie, matthew stadlen keep me company till eewew-www- stadlen keep me company till seven.-with you,- seven. i'll start with you, weww. — seven. i'll start with you, weww. -ww- seven. i'll start with you, kelvin. my viewers, kelvin. one of my viewers, newswe— kelvin. one of my viewers, natasha, she— kelvin. one of my viewers, natasha, she is— kelvin. one of my viewers, natasha, she is written in swine,— natasha, she is written in swine, yew— natasha, she is written in saying, you know, former ewweewwe— saying, you know, former students used— saying, you know, former students used go out and students used to go out and eeeww— students used to go out and eeeww weee— students used to go out and about nights she's saying about nights out she's saying wee— about nights out she's saying we we— about nights out she's saying that she never— about nights out she's saying that she never would have even ewe— that she never would have even have considered— that she never would have even have considered anything like wee— have considered anything like wee-weee— have considered anything like that-most of— have considered anything like that-most of us— have considered anything like that most of us would not. that as most of us would not. yew— that as most of us would not. vew just— that as most of us would not. vew just-out— that as most of us would not. you just-out and- that as most of us would not. you just out and about. you you just go out and about. you go you just go out and about. you 90 heme. — you just go out and about. you 90 heme. yew— you just go out and about. you go home. you do— you just go out and about. you go home. you do not expect to be in go home. you do not expect to be we wew-e— go home. you do not expect to be we www-e ww— go home. you do not expect to be we www-e ww w— go home. you do not expect to be in harm's way in this way. it's eiekewiwe— in harm's way in this way. it's ewewewwe. we— in harm's way in this way. it's sickening. is this— in harm's way in this way. it's sickening. is this a sign, as eewew-w- sickening. is this a sign, as eewew-w weexl sickening. is this a sign, as. some-my inbox are some people in my inbox are eweeeewwe— some people in my inbox are suggesting, that— some people in my inbox are suggesting, that basically ewwww— suggesting, that basically ewwew we— suggesting, that basically britain is broken, lawless ewwew— britain is broken, lawless ewwew e — britain is broken, lawless britain ? well,- britain is broken, lawless britain ? �*tw�*wicc britain is broken, lawless britain ? �*tw�*wii “we “witi britain is broken, lawless- britain ? well, i think there are britain? well, i think there are two aspects to this. this is a shockingly disturbing case. and the fact that he has turned out to be a west african migrant with with mental health issues as well. we need the police to eewww— as well. we need the police to eewww wee— as well. we need the police to confirm that, of— we need the police to confirm that, of course. \wwiw confirm that, of course. no, we. — confirm that, of course. no, we. wen— confirm that, of course. no, but. well hold— confirm that, of course. no, but. well hold on.- confirm that, of course. no, but. well hold on. your own guys confirmed it. so i mean, he got it. he got it from a police briefing. don't worry about that. so let's take that as the first thing. so that is an absolute disgrace and will be. and there will be families who

will morning. will wake up tomorrow morning. right. haven't got there. right. they haven't got there. they their student they haven't got their student kids in kids anymore. they've gone in this terrible , terrible attack. this terrible, terrible attack. and the older the older guy who was driving the van, he's dead. i mean, it's beyond shocking. this. it's and there will be a lot of your viewers who will be taking the that if we taking the view that if we hadnt taking the view that if we hadn't had a this migrant, then these people would be alive today. but let's take the wider issue of yours, which i think is the one which says the number of murders in our country. i mean, in let's just take the area which i know best, which is london, right. young londoners being to death by other being stabbed to death by other young londoners, young londoners carrying huge knives around with them. right. this this is a massive change in society motty in the last ten years. and what seems to be the case, despite despite that extra heavier sentences for these people, it doesn't seem to be dissuading them. we seem to have a i talk about london. that's the only bit i really know. a lawless

london, which i do not believe is helped by the way that the judiciary look upon these young killers and say to them, oh, they can't be named for x and y reasons . i want to know who they reasons. i want to know who they are. i want to know what their backgrounds is, and i want them banged up even when they're young. i them put away for young. i want them put away for the safety the rest of us and the safety of the rest of us and to others to say that you are going off jail a huge going off to jail for a huge amount of time and we doing amount of time and we are doing it because we're listening it not because we're listening to some prison reform group. yeah. matthew, thoughts ? i think yeah. matthew, thoughts? i think the yeah. matthew, thoughts? i think we wee— yeah. matthew, thoughts? i think we we wwe— yeah. matthew, thoughts? i think the first thing to _ yeah. matthew, thoughts? i think the first thing to say is just to try to gauge the absolute tragedy of this, michel. i think it's unspeakable what's happened . and i can't imagine relatively new dad myself. i cannot imagine what the parents, the grandparents , the friends of grandparents, the friends of these students are going through orindeed these students are going through or indeed the older gentleman who's been murdered. so just there are very few words that can do anything like justice to the horror of it . and i feel for

the horror of it. and i feel for not just the family and friends, but also for the people of nottingham. i don't know the city very well, but i was there last year for an incredible test match and you want be reading match and you want to be reading about for the right about nottingham for the right reasons, not for these horrific reasons. so that's the first thing and thing to say. thought and condolences to everyone condolences go out to everyone involved. second thing to involved. the second thing to say that of court say is that contempt of court kicks in at arrest. a lot of journalists don't know this. they think it kicks in when someone is charged, it kicks in at so the last thing i'm at arrest. so the last thing i'm going to do is speculate or comment or give any sort of opinion on this arrest. the opinion on on this arrest. the third thing i'd say about lawlessness more generally in this country , i looked up the this country, i looked up the stats actually before coming on air and to my surprise, given the massive cuts that the tory government has made on the police since they came to power in 2010, they're trying to build back now. but to my surprise, serious crime, if i've interpreted these statistics properly, the serious crimes seem to be down in 2022 compared to pre pandemic levels. you

couldn't properly compare the pandemic because of course, we were locked up for chunks of that. me. but as that. that surprised me. but as a londoner born and bred in west london, my sense now is that there is a creeping lawlessness that you do see people, whether they're driving motor motorbikes like maniacs around the place. these delivery bikes or whether it's drop offs or drugs in broad daylight . but to it's drop offs or drugs in broad daylight. but to me, it's drop offs or drugs in broad daylight . but to me, the police daylight. but to me, the police haven't quite got a grip on the caphal haven't quite got a grip on the capital. i can't speak for the rest of the country and my experience is anecdotal, but for me more needs to be done. yeah, and if you're watching,— yeah, and if you're watching, you're weweewwe— and if you're watching, you're wondering what— and if you're watching, you're wondering what this is. you wweww— wondering what this is. you wwew ewe— wondering what this is. you might have just— wondering what this is. you might have just joined for might have just joined us for the might have just joined us for ewe-ewe.— might have just joined us for the-time. the- might have just joined us for. the-time. the-that the first time. the footage that wewe— the first time. the footage that youe eeewe,— the first time. the footage that you're seeing,-is- the first time. the footage that you're seeing, is exclusive you're seeing, this is exclusive to you're seeing, this is exclusive weiwewe— you're seeing, this is exclusive weiwewe ewe— you're seeing, this is exclusive to.news. this was- you're seeing, this is exclusive to news. this was an to gb news. this was an ewewwweee— to gb news. this was an eyewitness supplied with this eyewitness supplied us with this weeweee— eyewitness supplied us with this weeweee-eweeeww- eyewitness supplied us with this footage property in footage from a property in wewwewew.— footage from a property in nottingham. what you're seeing weee— nottingham. what you're seeing were we— nottingham. what you're seeing were we we— nottingham. what you're seeing here is the suspect being eeeweweweee— here is the suspect being apprehended and that is what we are apprehended and that is what we ewwwe— apprehended and that is what we ewwwe ew— apprehended and that is what we are playing on your screen right we— are playing on your screen right we yew— are playing on your screen right we wew w— are playing on your screen right now. are you in nottingham right e— now. are you in nottingham right e w— now. are you in nottingham right e we we— now. are you in nottingham right now ? i'd love to— now. are you in nottingham right now ? i'd love to know how do you now? i'd love to know how do you feele— now? i'd love to know how do you weew whee— now? i'd love to know how do you weew we we— now? i'd love to know how do you feel? what is the— now? i'd love to know how do you feel? what is the sense acas the feeling,—

feel? what is the sense acas the weewwe we — feel? what is the sense acas the feeling, the emotion in and wewwe— feeling, the emotion in and around nottingham right now? we eeewe— around nottingham right now? we eeewe wee— around nottingham right now? we spoke then about— around nottingham right now? we spoke then about lawless london. i'm spoke then about lawless london. w-w wee— spoke then about lawless london. w-w wee e— spoke then about lawless london. i'm not a londoner,— spoke then about lawless london. i'm not a londoner, but it does eeweww— i'm not a londoner, but it does eeweww weee— i'm not a londoner, but it does certainly feel to— i'm not a londoner, but it does certainly feel to me like there is certainly feel to me like there we .— certainly feel to me like there we . w— certainly feel to me like there we . w feele— certainly feel to me like there is. it feels as— certainly feel to me like there is. it feels as though that were— is. it feels as though that were we— is. it feels as though that there is this— is. it feels as though that there is this plague of lawlessness- there is this plague of lawlessness and i have lost eewww— lawlessness and i have lost eewww ew— lawlessness and i have lost count now of the- lawlessness and i have lost count now of the amount of weee.— count now of the amount of weeee. w— count now of the amount of videos. in fact,— count now of the amount of videos. in fact, actually i've eweeeee— videos. in fact, actually i've stopped autoplay my social stopped autoplay on my social media— stopped autoplay on my social media because— stopped autoplay on my social media because i— stopped autoplay on my social media because i can't cope with eeewe— media because i can't cope with eeewe we— media because i can't cope with seeing the amount— media because i can't cope with seeing the amount of violence wee— seeing the amount of violence wee-we— seeing the amount of violence wee-we ee— seeing the amount of violence that to be accidentally that i seem to be accidentally exeeeee— that i seem to be accidentally exposed .when _ that i seem to be accidentally exposed when just exposed to when i'm just wewewe— exposed to when i'm just browsing twitter the browsing my twitter and the ewe— browsing my twitter and the wewww ew— browsing my twitter and the amount of people that are eweeewwe— amount of people that are charging around with knives in weee— charging around with knives in broad daylight,— charging around with knives in broad daylight, that is the ewe— broad daylight, that is the ewe wee— broad daylight, that is the thing that sickens me. and i wwww— thing that sickens me. and i we we— thing that sickens me. and i we we yew— thing that sickens me. and i think to your point, yes, weee-e— think to your point, yes, there's not— think to your point, yes, there's not a— think to your point, yes, there's not a lot of bobbies on we— there's not a lot of bobbies on we weee— there's not a lot of bobbies on we beat 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france , didn't you, that in france, didn't you, when that guy— in france, didn't you, when that ew—wwwe— in france, didn't you, when that ew—wwwe we- guy was going into the playground— guy was going into the playground people were guy was going into the— playground-people were stood playground and people were stood wwwwwe— playground and people were stood filming-they— playground and people were stood filming-they were— playground and people were stood filming they were running filming him, they were running eeew— filming him, they were running eeew wiw.— filming him, they were running past him. there— filming him, they were running past him. there were reports ewwwe— past him. there were reports ewwwe yew— past him. there were reports saying, you know, eye witness ewe— saying, you know, eye witness ewe ewe— saying, you know, eye witness ewe ewe ew— saying, you know, eye witness ewe ewe e— saying, you know, eye witness said she saw a man stab a baby in said she saw a man stab a baby w 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w-w we, w eee— in a pushchair multiple times. i'm like, i beg your pardon? seeewe— i'm like, i beg your pardon? someone stood— i'm like, i beg your pardon? someone stood there and watched a someone stood there and watched e wee,— someone stood there and watched ewew wwwe, e— someone stood there and watched a man knife, a baby— someone stood there and watched a man knife, a baby in a ewewewwe— a man knife, a baby in a ewewewwe. — a man knife, a baby in a pushchair. t g a man knife, a baby in a pushchair. 3wg“ g“witi a man knife, a baby in a- pushchair. right. but there is a problem there , isn't there? problem there, isn't there? i mean, have you seen the size of the knives which are mean they the knives which are i mean they are long and are literally this long and there is somebody going mad and people scared, feel scared people feel scared, feel scared . i do understand that every so often person of often there is a person of courage who steps forward and takes these people on. so the question is, what could possibly be done about it right . if it question is, what could possibly be done about it right. if it is an explosion, most of it is drug related and much of the drugs seem to be carried out by younger and younger people. why is that ? because the police have is that? because the police have great difficulty his in actually, you know, grabbing hold of these young kids. so the question is , what do we do about question is, what do we do about that, kelvin , i'd be interested that, kelvin, i'd be interested to know from you whether you think that the police should be clamping down harder on the people who use drugs. i know people who use drugs. i know people who use drugs. i know people who take— people who use drugs. i know people who take drugs- igwi w: wgs i know people who take drugs casually eewe— people who take drugs casually eewe eewee— people who take drugs casually take drugs, drugs. socially, ww— take drugs, drugs. socially, wew eewe— take drugs, drugs. socially, they don't have— take drugs, drugs. socially, they don't have fear of they don't have any fear of eewe— they don't have any fear of eewe eweeeee— they don't have any fear of being stopped by the police or eeeeewee— being stopped by the police or eeeeewee . — being stopped by the police or arrested . well,— being stopped by the police or arrested . well, i— being stopped by the police or

arrested . �*tw�*will being stopped by the police or arrested. “< arrested. well, i think that is arrested. well, i think that is a very good question. and we're going to it in the break. going to ponder it in the break. i to that out to you. i want to throw that out to you. what do you think about law and order in this society? i want to pick on the point that pick up on the point that matthew made as every matthew made as well. every single us wants the single one of us wants the person is responsible person that is responsible for this disgusting this absolutely disgusting attack in nottingham today. we want those be brought want those people to be brought to justice. so we will not say and do anything that would compromise that. so if you're sitting at home screaming at your tv set, michelle, call it what it is, call it what it is, perhaps is what you might be saying. i can see it coming through in my inbox. i understand your sentiment, but i need to be careful to make sure that we don't do anything that would prevent the person that's done this being brought to justice. none of us would want to be responsible for that. so for now, tell me, do you think crime is getting worse in your area? do you think there is a sense of increased lawlessness in britain? tell me. do not go anywhere. all of the latest in nottingham will be brought to

you as soon as it happens. i'll see you

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even know how you've managed to walk with those contraptions down you ask the down yourselves. you ask the question on because saying question on because we're saying about knife crime. if you're wondering of wondering about the details of the nottingham somebody the nottingham thing, somebody been alive. legal been arrested. it's alive. legal case. we do not want to jeopardise that any way. we jeopardise that in any way. we want person brought to want that person brought to justice. hence we're talking want that person brought to justicwbroadlye we're talking want that person brought to justicwbroadlye we're law:ing want that person brought to justicwbroadlye we're law and more broadly about law and order. saying to order. you were saying to kelvin, you know , when it comes kelvin, you know, when it comes to young people, when it comes to young people, when it comes to knives, drugs, perhaps drug deaung to knives, drugs, perhaps drug dealing and all the rest of it is a factor. do you think that we're that we're hard enough clamping down on drugs, drug taking, drug dealing, whatever? well the issue is, if we were to really go for we need a lot more police officers. okay . so police officers. okay. so ceweeew— police officers. okay. so cameron was— wt.wi wt.wit;fw okay. so cameron was completely wrong wt.wi wt.wit; okay. so cameron was completely wrong . cameron was completely wrong. eeewe— cameron was completely wrong. eeew wwewe— cameron was completely wrong. eeew weewe we— cameron was completely wrong. 100% wrong. he took he took a he eeew— 100% wrong. he took he took a he eeew ee— 100% wrong. he took he took a he eeew ew— 100% wrong. he took he took a he took one of the— 100% wrong. he took he took a he took one of the knives to the eeewe— took one of the knives to the eeewe ew— took one of the knives to the costs of running— took one of the knives to the costs of running the police weeee— costs of running the police force. totally— costs of running the police force. totally wrong. had to be eewwewewee.— force. totally wrong. had to be reinstated. we— force. totally wrong. had to be reinstated. we should actually we— reinstated. we should actually increase the number of police ewweeee— increase the number of police ewweeee .— increase the number of police ewweeee . we— increase the number of police officers . we should increase the officers. we should increase the wee— officers. we should increase the web ew— officers. we should increase the number of prisons— officers. we should increase the number of prisons and we have

got number of prisons and we have eew we— number of prisons and we have eew we ew— number of prisons and we have eew we ew ww— number of prisons and we have got to say that the _ number of prisons and we have got to say that the big scourge of got to say that the big scourge ew ew— got to say that the big scourge ew eeewew— got to say that the big scourge of our society where crime and wewew— of our society where crime and wewew weee— of our society where crime and money weee w— of our society where crime and money meet it is— of our society where crime and money meet it is drugs. it's wew— money meet it is drugs. it's wew we— money meet it is drugs. it's wew big wewew— money meet it is drugs. it's very big money. you don't have to very big money. you don't have we eee— very big money. you don't have we eew eewe— very big money. you don't have to rob banks anymore. therefore wweeeweee,— to rob banks anymore. therefore weeeweee, ww— to rob banks anymore. therefore therefore, why don't we actually wave— therefore, why don't we actually have more investment in this e— have more investment in this e w— have more investment in this e w eew-w— have more investment in this area ? i can't understand why area? i can't understand why a weww— area? i can't understand why a weww eeeew-w— area? i can't understand why a rishi doesn't saying it. i eweeeew— rishi doesn't saying it. i suspect that— rishi doesn't saying it. i suspect that starmer will do w wee— suspect that starmer will do more in that area, which is eeeewwwew— more in that area, which is absolutely bizarre. and the eweewew— absolutely bizarre. and the eweewew we— absolutely bizarre. and the question is our— absolutely bizarre. and the question is our society and eewee— question is our society and eewee ee— question is our society and drugs are intertwined. so you eew,— drugs are intertwined. so you talk, matthew,— drugs are intertwined. so you talk, matthew, about your friend wew— talk, matthew, about your friend eyour ewewee— talk, matthew, about your friend , your friends taking drugs. aewwww— , your friends taking drugs. aewwww w-w— , your friends taking drugs. actually i'm so— , your friends taking drugs. actually i'm so old. the only eewee— actually i'm so old. the only eewee .— actually i'm so old. the only eewee , ww— actually i'm so old. the only drugs , my friend— actually i'm so old. the only drugs , my friend take a blood drugs, my friend take a blood pressure tablets. _ drugs, my friend take a blood pressure tablets. but putting wee— pressure tablets. but putting we we— pressure tablets. but putting we we ee— pressure tablets. but putting that to one side,— pressure tablets. but putting that to one side, the truth eeewe— that to one side, the truth eeewe we — that to one side, the truth about the matter is it is a wee— about the matter is it is a wee we— about the matter is it is a wee we e— about the matter is it is a there is a massive middle class us there is a massive middle class us eewe— there is a massive middle class us weww .— there is a massive middle class us right . middle— there is a massive middle class us right. middle class area. they— us right. middle class area. they eew-w— us right. middle class area. they don't give— us right. middle class area. they don't give a stuff. and wewew-w— they don't give a stuff. and wewew-w w— they don't give a stuff. and wouldn't it be— they don't give a stuff. and wouldn't it be interesting to wwew— wouldn't it be interesting to wwew wew— wouldn't it be interesting to know how many— wouldn't it be interesting to know how many lawyers, how many wewweee— know how many lawyers, how many wewweee ww— know how many lawyers, how many lawyers in central— know how many lawyers, how many lawyers in central london took eewee— lawyers in central london took eewee ewe— lawyers in central london took drugs and more— lawyers in central london took drugs and more and perhaps even more interesting— drugs and more and perhaps even more interesting than that, how weww— more interesting than that, how many eeewe— more interesting than that, how many people ww— more interesting than that, how many people in the media. so i'm

not many people in the media. so i'm new verv— many people in the media. so i'm new very eeew— many people in the media. so i'm not very liberal when— many people in the media. so i'm not very liberal when it comes to drugs. so drugs , as you say, to drugs. so drugs, as you say, and crime go hand in hand. they are the rotten core of criminal society in britain and no doubt in other countries, as well. now, if i talk about this to my sort of liberal leaning friends, some of them, not all of them will say we'll just legalise it, take take the criminals out of it. drugs. they'll it. legalise drugs. they'll say, i don't know. i don't i don't i don't know. i don't think they'd go that far and i don't agree with it. i think drugs do damage. and i think it's state to say you it's for the state to say you can't be putting that stuff in your you be selling your body. you can't be selling that other people. the that stuff to other people. the problem is that the police have absolutely on drugs absolutely got no grip on drugs whatsoever, . and whatsoever, decriminalised. and it it fuels violence. it fuels and it fuels violence. it's you can't course, this it's you can't of course, this comes to the david cameron comes back to the david cameron point, a tory point point, but it's a tory point more forget more generally. don't forget the tories been in power for 13 tories have been in power for 13 years. and think right years. and i think you're right about was talking about starmer. he was talking about starmer. he was talking about the whiff of cannabis on the street. how streets in the street. how many streets in london can you london and elsewhere can you smell? a young smell? you've got a young baby cannabis in through cannabis is wafting in through into police into the you cannot police without police community police

visibility. michelle, you have to have some sort of visible presence. i don't want to live in a police state. you've got to get the balance right. but if you don't have the police officers getting to know the community, you're in real trouble. but a lot these trouble. but a lot of these people, want they want people, they want they want respect. if they saw bobby on the respect. if they saw bobby on we eeew,— respect. if they saw bobby on we eeew, ww— t if they saw bobby on the beat, they wouldn't sit weee— the beat, they wouldn't sit weee ewe— the beat, they wouldn't sit there and go,— the beat, they wouldn't sit there and go, yeah, there and go, oh, yeah, i bet a eewee— there and go, oh, yeah, i bet a eewe-wee— there and go, oh, yeah, i bet a better-that thing.- there and go, oh, yeah, i bet a better that thing. you see, better put that thing. you see, i a better put that thing. you see, w-e eeewe— better put that thing. you see, w-e eeewe-weee- better put that thing. you see, i a group these kids the i seen a group of these kids the ewe— i seen a group of these kids the ewe ew— i seen a group of these kids the ewe day we— i seen a group of these kids the other day and it— i seen a group of these kids the other day and it was not in weweew.— other day and it was not in london. you'll— other day and it was not in london. you'll tell me if you we— london. you'll tell me if you we ww— london. you'll tell me if you we w wee— london. you'll tell me if you live in that place— london. you'll tell me if you live in that place where it is eeeewee— live in that place where it is because remember they because you remember it. they went— because you remember it. they went-ewe— because you remember it. they went this jewellery shop went up to this jewellery shop in went up to this jewellery shop w we— went up to this jewellery shop in the middle— went up to this jewellery shop in the middle of— went up to this jewellery shop in the middle of the and in the middle of the day, and wew-we— in the middle of the day, and wew-we eew— in the middle of the day, and they've got these— in the middle of the day, and they've got these axes and this eweewwwe— they've got these axes and this smashing windows in middle smashing the windows in middle and smashing the windows in middle ewe—ewww- smashing the windows in middle and loads—stuff- smashing the windows in middle and loads them, stuff smashing the windows in middle and loads them, just;tuff like loads of them, just eeeewwe— like loads of them, just grabbing people are like loads of them, just- grabbing-people are going grabbing stuff. people are going into grabbing stuff. people are going wwwe—wewewwe- into shops just helping themselves,— themselves, walking around, knifing— themselves, walking around, wwwwe—ewe- themselves, walking around,| knifing _ and i hear knifing each other and i hear eeeewe— knifing each other and i hear eeeewe-ewew- knifing each other and i hear people show, they'll say, people on my show, they'll say, do people on my show, they'll say, we yew— people on my show, they'll say, we wew week— people on my show, they'll say, we you weew ew— people on my show, they'll say, do you work on either of the ewe— do you work on either of the dew/w1— do you work on either of the day? we we— do you work on either of the day? and he was— do you work on either of the day? and he was saying to me, we— day? and he was saying to me, we eeeewee— day? and he was saying to me, it's because there's nothing to eweeee— it's because there's nothing to engage—we- it's because there's nothing to engage the tories. it's because there's nothing to. engage—the tories. he engage the youth, the tories. he wee-we-eew-wl was saying to me, don't, don't wen— was saying to me, don't, don't wen-weww— was saying to me, don't, don't wen-weww-we- was saying to me, don't, don't tell-youth-is the- tell me youth clubs is the answer. -and- tell me youth clubs is the- answer. -and-there answer. exactly. and i sit there we— answer. exactly. and i sit there and w— answer. exactly. and i sit there and w twew— answer. exactly. and i sit there and i just think,— answer. exactly. and i sit there and i just think, give your head and i just think, give your head e ewewe. — and i just think, give your head a shake. we've— and i just think, give your head a shake. we've got- and i just think, give your head a shake. gwiw wgwiw a shake. we've got we've got to look answers, michelle. we

look for answers, michelle. we have look for answers. right have to look for answers. right and surely most of the answers awe— and surely most of the answers come. and this— and surely most of the answers come. and this is— and surely most of the answers come. and this is this is a wee— come. and this is this is a weee-e- come. and this is this is a wider-a more. come. and this is this is a. wider-a more more wider point and a more more eeewewe— wider point and a more more dramatic-think- wider point and a more more. dramatic-think-of dramatic point. i think most of the dramatic point. i think most of wee—eeew - dramatic point. i think most of the—from withini the answers come from within wewwwee— the answers come from within families-because- families. okay? because eeeewwwe— families. okay? because depending on- families. okay? because depending on how you're brought up depending on how you're brought we—wew-e- depending on how you're brought we—wew-e eewl depending on how you're brought we ee—wew-e eewl depending on how you're brought up or 80% let's say, depending on how you're brought up or 80% of let's say, depending on how you're brought up or 80% of how let's say, depending on how you're brought up or 80% of how it's et's say, depending on how you're brought up or 80% of how it's all say, depending on how you're brought up or 80% of how it's all going 70 or 80% of how it's all going to 70 or 80% of how it's all going we week— 70 or 80% of how it's all going we weew ew— 70 or 80% of how it's all going to work out in— 70 or 80% of how it's all going to work out in life,— 70 or 80% of how it's all going to work out in life, what weeeewe— to work out in life, what weeeewe w— to work out in life, what happens if there are communities wwwww—wwwew- happens if there are communities within—which don't. within our country which don't have— within our country which don't have families— within our country which don't have families as— within our country which don't have families as the centre ? have families as the centre? wen.— have families as the centre? weu. w— have families as the centre? weu. w weww— have families as the centre? well, i would argue- have families as the centre? well, i would argue just- well, i would argue just quickly, if we're going to get on to immigration in that context, that actually if you look immigrant communities look at immigrant communities in this country, you're looking at one specific have some of one specific they have some of the have some the the they have some of the strongest around. strongest family values around. hang specific hang on. what's the specific eewwwwwwe— hang on. what's the specific community? would my community? well, i would my ew— community? well, i would my sense of having— community? well, i would my sense of having seen the victims of sense of having seen the victims ew-eeewee— sense of having seen the victims ew-eeewee we— sense of having seen the victims of-seemed to be- sense of having seen the victims of seemed to be people who of what seemed to be people who eeeeee— of what seemed to be people who eeeeee we— of what seemed to be people who eeeeee we have— of what seemed to be people who appear to have been caught up in, appear to have been caught up w, yew— appear to have been caught up w, you knew,— appear to have been caught up in, you know, very— appear to have been caught up in, you know, very young kids, 14, in, you know, very young kids, e. we,— in, you know, very young kids, e. we, we— in, you know, very young kids, 14, we, we years— in, you know, very young kids, 14, 16, 18 years old, it looks as 14, 16, 18 years old, it looks we wwewew— 14, 16, 18 years old, it looks as though the— 14, 16, 18 years old, it looks as though the african caribbean eewwwwww— as though the african caribbean community have— as though the african caribbean community have been more eeeweweww— community have been more eeeweweww ww— community have been more prevalent in that than, for wewewee— prevalent in that than, for instance, the— prevalent in that than, for instance, the sikh community. wweww. — instance, the sikh community. wweww. we— instance, the sikh community. right- we we— instance, the sikh community. right. it's no use— instance, the sikh community. right. it's no use just- instance, the sikh community. right. it's no use just saying migrants. is it, for instance ? migrants. is it, for instance? anyway, we're not allowed to talk about it . ludicrously,

talk about it. ludicrously, i must say, it's not listen, it's not my rules. i don't want to do ewwwwwwe— not my rules. i don't want to do ewwwwwe wew— not my rules. i don't want to do anything that will— not my rules. i don't want to do anything that will get- i don't want to do anything that will get that wewe— anything that will get that wewee-wew— anything that will get that fella that fella will not we fella and that fella will not we ww— fella and that fella will not we wwu-we— fella and that fella will not we will-be freed _ fella and that fella will not we will-be freed .the - fella and that fella will not we will be freed the basis will not be freed on the basis of will not be freed on the basis ew e— will not be freed on the basis ew e eeewe— will not be freed on the basis of a debate on— will not be freed on the basis of a debate on gb news show. i'm weuwwe— of a debate on gb news show. i'm weuwwe-weew— of a debate on gb news show. i'm telling-look, we— of a debate on gb news show. i'm telling-look, we talk- of a debate on gb news show. i'm telling look, we talk law telling you, look, we talk law we— telling you, look, we talk law we eeewe— telling you, look, we talk law and order. i'm— telling you, look, we talk law and order. i'm just moving away eeew— and order. i'm just moving away weew wwwe— and order. i'm just moving away from knife crime— and order. i'm just moving away from knife crime for a second. if from knife crime for a second. w w— from knife crime for a second. w w wew— from knife crime for a second. if i may, because— from knife crime for a second. if i may, because some of you we— if i may, because some of you wwu ee— if i may, because some of you will be familiar— if i may, because some of you will be familiar with the story wew— will be familiar with the story we we— will be familiar with the story we we we— will be familiar with the story that is it's in— will be familiar with the story that is it's in a— will be familiar with the story that is it's in a lot of the eeeee— that is it's in a lot of the eeeee weew. — that is it's in a lot of the press today. it's front page wewee-w- press today. it's front page news - of the - press today. it's front page- news-of the newspapers. news in some of the newspapers. awe— news in some of the newspapers. wwelwwe— news in some of the newspapers. awelwwe we— news in some of the newspapers. awelwwe we ew— news in some of the newspapers. andihave to say it's— news in some of the newspapers. and have to say it's one of and i have to say it's one of we— and i have to say it's one of we weew— and i have to say it's one of the most sensitive, emotive, wewe— the most sensitive, emotive, weeewe weewee— the most sensitive, emotive, tragic topics that i personally wewe— tragic topics that i personally wave-.— tragic topics that i personally wwel eee— tragic topics that i personally have , ever discussed . so have ever, ever discussed. so wew— have ever, ever discussed. so weeew wweee — have ever, ever discussed. so today, three children are waking up today, three children are waking we wwwweww— today, three children are waking up without their— today, three children are waking up without their mummy at home. wewe— up without their mummy at home. wewe www— up without their mummy at home. wewe we— up without their mummy at home. their mum is in— up without their mummy at home. their mum is in prison, having eeew— their mum is in prison, having been sentenced— their mum is in prison, having been sentenced yesterday to eewe— been sentenced yesterday to eeewe ze— been sentenced yesterday to serve 28 months. her crime to wewe— serve 28 months. her crime to wave ew— serve 28 months. her crime to have an abortion— serve 28 months. her crime to have an abortion almost wwewewww.— have an abortion almost instantly. the- have an abortion almost instantly. the outrage has eeew.— instantly. the outrage has eeeww. we— instantly. the outrage has begun. the woman's equality party— begun. the woman's equality party ,_ begun. the woman's equality eeew , wee— begun. the woman's equality party , for example, demanding party, for example, demanding eewwew— party, for example, demanding eewwew ew— party, for example, demanding action on and— party, for example, demanding action on and taking to the eweeewe— action on and taking to the eweeewe we— action on and taking to the streets to create - action on and taking to the streets to create it. politicians- streets to create it. politicians speak out and streets to create it.— politicians speak out and some are even choosing— politicians speak out and some are even choosing to use a ewwwewwew— are even choosing to use a ewwwewwew we— are even choosing to use a situation to try— are even choosing to use a situation to try and gain votes for themselves— situation to try and gain votes for themselves at— situation to try and gain votes for themselves at the next

eweewwew. — for themselves at the next election. they— for themselves at the next election. they speak of archaic wewe — election. they speak of archaic wewe weee— election. they speak of archaic wewe weee ww— election. they speak of archaic laws. 1861 in case— election. they speak of archaic laws. 1861 in case you're weweeewwe— laws. 1861 in case you're weweeewwe .— laws. 1861 in case you're wondering , and the anger is wondering, and the anger is eweewwe— wondering, and the anger is eeweewwe .— wondering, and the anger is eeweewwe . wew— wondering, and the anger is palpable . now, let me be clear, palpable. now, let me be clear, we— palpable. now, let me be clear, and w— palpable. now, let me be clear, and w wew— palpable. now, let me be clear, and i know that— palpable. now, let me be clear, and i know that some of you will wwweewewwww— and i know that some of you will fundamentally disagree with me, as fundamentally disagree with me, we we— fundamentally disagree with me, we we wew— fundamentally disagree with me, we we wewe wewe— fundamentally disagree with me, as is your right. but i am unapologetically pro—choice. i wewewe— unapologetically pro—choice. i believe that— unapologetically pro—choice. i believe that a— unapologetically pro—choice. i believe that a woman should be wewe— believe that a woman should be we we— believe that a woman should be we we we— believe that a woman should be able to make decisions about her own childbearing— able to make decisions about her own childbearing and anyone wwww-e— own childbearing and anyone wwww-e eee— own childbearing and anyone that's ever been— own childbearing and anyone that's ever been in that eeewwwew— that's ever been in that position have- that's ever been in that position have been pregnant and wwwwe— position have been pregnant and wwwwe we— position have been pregnant and having the absolute trauma of weeewwe— having the absolute trauma of weeewwe we— having the absolute trauma of needing to decide whether to eeeeeeee— needing to decide whether to eeeeeeee ee— needing to decide whether to progress or not— needing to decide whether to progress or not will no, it can be absolutely— progress or not will no, it can be absolutely soul destroying. it be absolutely soul destroying. ww eww— be absolutely soul destroying. ww we— be absolutely soul destroying. it can be one— be absolutely soul destroying. it can be one of— be absolutely soul destroying. it can be one of the hardest eeewewewe— it can be one of the hardest decisions any— it can be one of the hardest decisions any woman will ever we— decisions any woman will ever we we— decisions any woman will ever we we we— decisions any woman will ever we we we .— decisions any woman will ever have to make . but and there is have to make. but and there is a wewwwewwww— have to make. but and there is a monumental battle, but there is a monumental battle, but there is wewewe— monumental battle, but there is wewewe www— monumental battle, but there is wewewe w w— monumental battle, but there is a clear law in this— monumental battle, but there is a clear law in this country, and wwww— a clear law in this country, and wwww we— a clear law in this country, and wwww we ewewe— a clear law in this country, and that is clear that— a clear law in this country, and that is clear that unless in wew— that is clear that unless in wew ewewe— that is clear that unless in very extreme health related circumstance _ very extreme health related circumstance cases, the legal wwwww— circumstance cases, the legal wwwww wee— circumstance cases, the legal wwwww wee ww— circumstance cases, the legal limit for an abortion is 24 weeew — limit for an abortion is 24 weeew ww— limit for an abortion is 24 weeks. in the— limit for an abortion is 24 weeks. in the case of the lady wwe— weeks. in the case of the lady we we— weeks. in the case of the lady we we twew— weeks. in the case of the lady who has just been— weeks. in the case of the lady who has just been jailed, which eewewwww— who has just been jailed, which crucially happened during weeweeww— crucially happened during lockdown, she— crucially happened during lockdown, she chose to push her eeewewew— lockdown, she chose to push her decision beyond— lockdown, she chose to push her decision beyond the 24 weeks, wwwwe— decision beyond the 24 weeks, wwwwe wwee— decision beyond the 24 weeks, having made that— decision beyond the 24 weeks, having made that decision, she

wee— having made that decision, she wee wwe— having made that decision, she wee wwe ewe— having made that decision, she lied and she told— having made that decision, she lied and she told abortion seeweee— lied and she told abortion services that— lied and she told abortion services that she was just seven weeke— services that she was just seven weewe eeeewwww— services that she was just seven weewe eeeewwww .— services that she was just seven weeks pregnant . in reality, she weeks pregnant. in reality, she wew— weeks pregnant. in reality, she was then about— weeks pregnant. in reality, she was then about 30 weeks. of wew— was then about 30 weeks. of course, they then— was then about 30 weeks. of course, they then sent the medication,— course, they then sent the medication, as— course, they then sent the medication, as was the laws . medication, as was the laws. wew— medication, as was the laws. wew ww— medication, as was the laws. wew ww wwe— medication, as was the laws. then it was allowed. she took we— then it was allowed. she took the medication— then it was allowed. she took the medication and delivered her ewwuweew— the medication and delivered her stillborn child— the medication and delivered her stillborn child soon afterwards. ww— stillborn child soon afterwards. wwww eww— stillborn child soon afterwards. that child was— stillborn child soon afterwards. that child was then found to be wewweew— that child was then found to be wewweew ee— that child was then found to be between 32 and— that child was then found to be between 32 and 34 weeks eeewwwwew— between 32 and 34 weeks gestation when she said not eww— gestation when she said not why we— gestation when she said not why we we— gestation when she said not guilty to the offence of child destruction _ guilty to the offence of child destruction and _ guilty to the offence of child destruction and instead it was her destruction and instead it was he weeww— destruction and instead it was her legal team _ destruction and instead it was her legal team who suggested a we— her legal team who suggested a we we— her legal team who suggested a move to the law— her legal team who suggested a move to the law of— her legal team who suggested a move to the law of 1861, which ewe — move to the law of 1861, which she eventually— move to the law of 1861, which she eventually pleaded guilty to. she eventually pleaded guilty we. wew— she eventually pleaded guilty to. now taking— she eventually pleaded guilty to. now taking into account the eewwwee— to. now taking into account the eewwee eww— to. now taking into account the delayed guilty plea, the judge wew— delayed guilty plea, the judge wwew wwe— delayed guilty plea, the judge wwew we we— delayed guilty plea, the judge then had no chance, basically no wewee.— then had no chance, basically no ewewee. eww— then had no chance, basically no ewewee. eww we— then had no chance, basically no choice. but to impose a prison sentence, which— choice. but to impose a prison sentence, which leads us back to the sentence, which leads us back to we wewee— sentence, which leads us back to the tragic situation— sentence, which leads us back to the tragic situation i outlined at the tragic situation i outlined ww wwe— the tragic situation i outlined ww we eww.— the tragic situation i outlined at the start. three children now wwwweww— at the start. three children now without their— at the start. three children now without their mummy. now i feel eeeeeewwew— without their mummy. now i feel eeeeeewwew eeew— without their mummy. now i feel desperately sorry for the lady wewee.— desperately sorry for the lady wwwewee. w— desperately sorry for the lady involved. i feel— desperately sorry for the lady involved. i feel desperately eeew— involved. i feel desperately eeew wee— involved. i feel desperately eeew wee wee— involved. i feel desperately sorry for her children. and weee— sorry for her children. and wweee we— sorry for her children. and there are no— sorry for her children. and there are no winners here at we.— there are no winners here at www. wewe— there are no winners here at all. none. but— there are no winners here at all. none. but to— there are no winners here at all. none. but to all of those wwww— all. none. but to all of those wwww wew— all. none. but to all of those that right now— all. none. but to all of those that right now today are running wewee— that right now today are running around demanding that laws are ewwweew— around demanding that laws are changede w— around demanding that laws are changede w wew— around demanding that laws are changed, i ask you— around demanding that laws are changed, i ask you this do you

eewww— changed, i ask you this do you eewww wwww— changed, i ask you this do you eewww wwww ww— changed, i ask you this do you really want it to— changed, i ask you this do you really want it to be legal for a we— really want it to be legal for a woman to terminate her pregnancy wwww— woman to terminate her pregnancy we we— woman to terminate her pregnancy we we wwwwe— woman to terminate her pregnancy with no limits ?_ woman to terminate her pregnancy with no limits ? until when? with no limits? until when? wwwwe— with no limits? until when? we we— with no limits? until when? what? the second she gives wew.— what? the second she gives wew. we— what? the second she gives birth. the moment she gives wwew.— birth. the moment she gives wew. we— birth. the moment she gives wew. we eww— birth. the moment she gives birth. the day before? when? for wwwwe— birth. the day before? when? for we wew— birth. the day before? when? for what? your reason. _ birth. the day before? when? for what? your reason. my choice . my what? your reason. my choice. my wew. — what? your reason. my choice. my wew. ww— what? your reason. my choice. my wew. ww wewee.— what? your reason. my choice. my body. my choice. because i will wewww— body. my choice. because i will wewww wwww— body. my choice. because i will admit that even— body. my choice. because i will admit that even though. yes i am eee-etetee— admit that even though. yes i am pro—choice, surely— admit that even though. yes i am pro—choice, surely surely there wwe— pro—choice, surely surely there we we— pro—choice, surely surely there we we we— pro—choice, surely surely there has to be limits— pro—choice, surely surely there has to be limits .— pro—choice, surely surely there has to be limits. having no wwwwwe— has to be limits. having no we ww— has to be limits. having no limits at all— has to be limits. having no limits at all fills me with eeewe— limits at all fills me with eeewe .— limits at all fills me with dread . matthew stadlen this dread. matthew stadlen this ewew— dread. matthew stadlen this ewew we— dread. matthew stadlen this ewew we w— dread. matthew stadlen this ewew we w we— dread. matthew stadlen this story is a big one. hugely wwew— story is a big one. hugely talked about,— story is a big one. hugely talked about, deeply emotional. sewe— talked about, deeply emotional. sewe eeeewe— talked about, deeply emotional. sewe eeeewe eww— talked about, deeply emotional. some people say we shouldn't be wwwwwe— some people say we shouldn't be wwwwwe wwew— some people say we shouldn't be talking about it— some people say we shouldn't be talking about it at— some people say we shouldn't be talking about it at all because wewe— talking about it at all because we're being judgemental. what do you we're being judgemental. what do wew wwe— we're being judgemental. what do you we we— we're being judgemental. what do you make to this— we're being judgemental. what do you make to this case? i think a i you make to this case? i think a w wewee— you make to this case? i think a w wewee wwww— you make to this case? i think a i agree with pretty— you make to this case? i think a i agree with pretty much every weee— i agree with pretty much every weee ww— i agree with pretty much every weee ww wew— i agree with pretty much every word in your introduction wwew.— word in your introduction action-it's- word in your introduction action.-it's a. word in your introduction. action.-it's a tragic action. i think it's a tragic case all round, desperately sad for the children involved, desperately for the mother. desperately sad for the mother. i know what her motives i don't know what her motives were. and of course, desperate , were. and of course, desperate, sad the unborn child . and sad for the unborn child. and there is a law in this country and if you break the law , you and if you break the law, you get punished for breaking the law. and it will probably serve as a deterrent to others . but as

as a deterrent to others. but as you say, there are no winners in the family involved. i think abortion is a very tragic thing whenever it happens. but i'm fully aware that i'm a bloke and as you say, it is up until the legal limit. a question for women and their bodies. but i absolutely think there should be absolutely think there should be a limit . and i don't feel any a limit. and i don't feel any great desire to argue with where the limit is at the moment. kelvin, brief thoughts on you . kelvin, brief thoughts on you. wew.— kelvin, brief thoughts on you. wew. we— kelvin, brief thoughts on you. well, the truth— kelvin, brief thoughts on you. well, the truth about- kelvin, brief thoughts on you. well, the truth about the- kelvin, brief thoughts on you. well, the truth about the matter is that that child was almost nine months old. was was nine months. she the child had almost gone full term . they were quite, gone full term. they were quite, quite a lot of cases where that child would have been born full term would be about 40 weeks. so i gave birth at 31 weeks. wew— so i gave birth at 31 weeks. wwew — so i gave birth at 31 weeks. wwew wew.— so i gave birth at 31 weeks. right well, there- so i gave birth at 31 weeks. right �*fw�*witt g“witi so i gave birth at 31 weeks. right �*fw�*witt ti ti so i gave birth at 31 weeks. right �*fw�*witt c’3lii11ilr?”liil so i gave birth at 31 weeks. right �*fw�*witt e“witi ?ti: right well, there we are. so my argument about this, she knew she was deceitful for complicated personal reasons. she decided that she wanted to kill the child. right i wanted to abort the child. so i my problem about this is not that i

don't believe she she faced a stiff sentence. my problem is this she ends up getting , what, this she ends up getting, what, 28 months or something ? 28 months or something? honestly, you could half you could literally kill somebody in the street in a london street, in a nottingham street somewhere. street. right. and you wouldn't get 28 months. and that's i was astonished at the size of the sentence. now they have a massive problem. the courts have a massive problem . courts have a massive problem. first of all, he says, if you want to change this, get into get parliament to do it. i don't think parliament will be doing it in hurry. but secondly, it in a hurry. but secondly, i would to see other would like to see other sentences to be guides made by this 28 months. if you can get 28 months for this kind of abortion. and there was deceit and it was definitely a killing, right. what would you get now for gbh or something? for a gbh or something? honestly, these people, these people carrying out really nasty crimes of violence in the streets are not getting anything like that. so i'd like an explanation the why explanation from the judge why he thought 28 months, if you i would say an answer to that. if

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here on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . channel britain is watching. hello there. i am michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. alongside me, the former editor of alongside me, the former editor ew wwe— alongside me, the former editor ew we sww— alongside me, the former editor of the sun, kelvin— alongside me, the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, wwe— of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, we we— of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the political— of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the political commentator wwwwwew— and the political commentator matthew stadlen _ and the political commentator matthew stadlen . lots and lots matthew stadlen. lots and lots of matthew stadlen. lots and lots ew wew— matthew stadlen. lots and lots ew you eewwwwe— matthew stadlen. lots and lots ew you eewwwe ww— matthew stadlen. lots and lots of you getting in contact about weee— of you getting in contact about wweee weewee— of you getting in contact about those topics today . i got to say those topics today. i got to say weee— those topics today. i got to say wweee we— those topics today. i got to say wweee we wwwe— those topics today. i got to say there is quite a— those topics today. i got to say there is quite a sense from you guys— there is quite a sense from you ewe ww— there is quite a sense from you ewe w-w wewwwe— there is quite a sense from you guys i'm asking you to is eewwwww— guys i'm asking you to is britain quite— guys i'm asking you to is britain quite lawless at the wewewwe— britain quite lawless at the moment? not— britain quite lawless at the moment? not many of you out weee— moment? not many of you out

wweee weewwwe— moment? not many of you out there feeling like— moment? not many of you out there feeling like no , it's not. there feeling like no, it's not. weew— there feeling like no, it's not. we ew— there feeling like no, it's not. we ew wew— there feeling like no, it's not. most of you out— there feeling like no, it's not. most of you out there feeling we— most of you out there feeling like absolutely.— most of you out there feeling like absolutely. yes, it is. i we— like absolutely. yes, it is. i wwww wew— like absolutely. yes, it is. i want your thoughts on some of wwe— want your thoughts on some of wwww. se— want your thoughts on some of wwww. se wwew— want your thoughts on some of that. so much empathy for people . wwe— that. so much empathy for people . the situation— that. so much empathy for people . the situation in— that. so much empathy for people . the situation in nottingham , . the situation in nottingham, wwww— . the situation in nottingham, wwww we— . the situation in nottingham, um, that is really— . the situation in nottingham, um, that is really coming in wwww— um, that is really coming in that abortion— um, that is really coming in that abortion one i've just been wwwwwe— that abortion one i've just been wwwwwe wwew— that abortion one i've just been talking about as— that abortion one i've just been talking about as well massive wee— talking about as well massive wee ewwwwe— talking about as well massive lee dividing people i say be eweewww— lee dividing people i say be careful what— lee dividing people i say be careful what you wish for when you— careful what you wish for when wew wwww— careful what you wish for when you wwww we— careful what you wish for when you want to remove time limits wwew— you want to remove time limits wwew wwewwew.— you want to remove time limits from abortion. goodness gracious wew— from abortion. goodness gracious wew wwe— from abortion. goodness gracious me. now the education secretary, ewuwww— me. now the education secretary, ewuwww weeeww— me. now the education secretary, gillian keegan there was a wweeweew— gillian keegan there was a margaret thatcher conference weeweeeww.— margaret thatcher conference yesterday. everybody said there was yesterday. everybody said there wwwwww— yesterday. everybody said there wwwwww ww— yesterday. everybody said there was within it .— yesterday. everybody said there was within it . she. yesterday. everybody said there was within it. she. gillian weeeww— was within it. she. gillian weeeww ow— was within it. she. gillian keegan of course not. thatcher. swee— keegan of course not. thatcher. swe-e wew— keegan of course not. thatcher. she's not back— keegan of course not. thatcher. she's not back from the dead by ewuwww— she's not back from the dead by gillian keegan— she's not back from the dead by gillian keegan was— she's not back from the dead by gillian keegan was saying that she gillian keegan was saying that ewe wwwwwe— gillian keegan was saying that she thinks we've— gillian keegan was saying that she thinks we've got to learn to we— she thinks we've got to learn to we wwwwww— she thinks we've got to learn to live within our— she thinks we've got to learn to live within our means. many eeeewe— live within our means. many people sat/inge— live within our means. many people saying, how dare you, eewe— people saying, how dare you, eewe towe— people saying, how dare you, dear tory, patronise us. other eeeewe— dear tory, patronise us. other eeeewe ewwwe— dear tory, patronise us. other people saying she's right. clap, ewe.— people saying she's right. clap, ewwe. wwww— people saying she's right. clap, ewwe. wwww we— people saying she's right. clap, clap. what are you, kelvin? wew.— clap. what are you, kelvin? wew. weee-e— clap. what are you, kelvin? well, there's nothing- clap. what are you, kelvin? well, there's nothing you can do about it. everybody has to live within their means. the thing made me laugh the other day as i saw some stats saying how the how the wealthy, the rich had suffered percentage wise, much

worse . look, at the end of the worse. look, at the end of the day, people have just received at the bottom of the rung minimum has gone up by 10. i minimum pay has gone up by 10. i see there's more people in work now than in history. see there's more people in work now than in history . we're down now than in history. we're down to 3.8% unemployment. so more families are going out there. it is a nightmare. energy is a nightmare. food is a nightmare. i agree. you've got to get on with it and you're going to have to pain, is what to have pain, which is what makes me laugh about the trade union who are we union leaders who are saying we are going to reduce our are not going to reduce our standard of living mate, that game you are going to game is over. you are going to reduce everybody's reduce it. everybody's going to reduce it. everybody's going to reduce lots of pain reduce it. there's lots of pain coming. and if you think this is bad now, until labour get bad now, wait until labour get in. the will really in. when the pain will really start. you have to have start. if you have to have achieved your achieved anything in your life, expect to even more tax than expect to pay even more tax than the are making pay. the tories are making you pay. yeah look,i the tories are making you pay. yeah look, i think it's common wew-w— yeah look, i think it's common wew-w w— yeah look, i think it's common sense, isn't it, that— “43?" look, i think it's common sense, isn't it, that we should we— sense, isn't it, that we should we wwwwww— sense, isn't it, that we should live within our— sense, isn't it, that we should live within our means? i'm noti eeweewe—eeww. someone who goes in for debt. wwe— someone who goes in for debt. w-we-wweww— someone who goes in for debt. i've-lucky enough- someone who goes in for debt. i've lucky enough never to i've been lucky enough never to wwe— i've been lucky enough never to we eeew— i've been lucky enough never to we been ww— i've been lucky enough never to have been in-so- i've been lucky enough never to have been in-so i- i've been lucky enough never to have been in so i try have been in debt. so i try to eweee— have been in debt. so i try to eweee ewewe— have been in debt. so i try to steer clear of— have been in debt. so i try to steer clear of-the- have been in debt. so i try to steer clear of the problem steer clear of that. the problem we— steer clear of that. the problem with .conservative - steer clear of that. the problem with conservative minister with the conservative minister wwe— and education secretary saying we— and education secretary saying wwwe—ew- this, whatever sort of background-

this, whatever sort of background comes this, whatever sort of- background-comes from, this, whatever sort of— background-comes from, and background she comes from, and i wwe— background she comes from, and i we ewe— background she comes from, and i we ewe wew— background she comes from, and i think she felt she— background she comes from, and i think she felt she came from a eeew— think she felt she came from a eeew ew— think she felt she came from a eeew ew wew— think she felt she came from a sort of not overly— think she felt she came from a sort of not overly privileged, wwew— sort of not overly privileged, hard background in hard working background in wweeeeew.— hard working background in liverpool. .the - hard working background in liverpool. the problem with liverpool. but the problem with a liverpool. but the problem with w—wwwwewee- liverpool. but the problem with a_minister sayingi a conservative minister saying we— a conservative minister saying wwwe—wewee- a conservative minister saying this—tories have. this is that the tories have eeew— this is that the tories have eeew-wee- this is that the tories have eeew-wee we- this is that the tories have been for 13 years this is that the tories have- been _for 13 years and been in power for 13 years and we wwew— been in power for 13 years and we wwew wwww— been in power for 13 years and we know that nearly 11 million eeewe,— we know that nearly 11 million peoplee ww— we know that nearly 11 million people, 11 million— we know that nearly 11 million people, 11 million us are people, 11 million of us are eweweewwwe— people, 11 million of us are eweweewwwe we— people, 11 million of us are struggling to pay their bills. wew— struggling to pay their bills. wew-wwew- struggling to pay their bills. now-them may- struggling to pay their bills. now them may be living now some of them may be living ewwewee— now some of them may be living ewwewee wewe— now some of them may be living outside their means, a lot outside their means, but a lot of outside their means, but a lot ew wwew— outside their means, but a lot ew wwew ww— outside their means, but a lot of them at christmas time, wewee— of them at christmas time, wewee w— of them at christmas time, youre w wewe— of them at christmas time, you're a you're a- of them at christmas time, you're a you're a mum. kelvin's a-a_ you're a you're a mum. kelvin's w-w ewe.— you're a you're a mum. kelvin's w-w ewe. wew- you're a you're a mum. kelvin's a-a dad. you know,- you're a you're a mum. kelvin's a a dad. you know, some a dad. i'm a dad. you know, some of a dad. i'm a dad. you know, some ew weee— a dad. i'm a dad. you know, some ew weee eeeewe— a dad. i'm a dad. you know, some of these people are— a dad. i'm a dad. you know, some of these people are struggling to of these people are strugglingl we—wwe to choose between heating and ewtwe— to choose between heating and eewe-wwe— to choose between heating and eating. and feeding eating. heating and feeding 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been in a rush. a couple of things you did— we've been in a rush. a couple of things you did point the wwweee— of things you did point the wee ww— of things you did point the finger at the— of things you did point the finger at the afro—caribbean eewwwwww— finger at the afro—caribbean community what community about crime. and what i'd community about crime. and what wew-we— community about crime. and what w-e-we-we— community about crime. and what w-e-we-we wew— community about crime. and what i'd-to-is how many- i'd say to that is how many wwuwewe— i'd say to that is how many millions-white- i'd say to that is how many millions white people millions of white people are wweuwwe— millions of white people are. wweuwwe—wwe fuelling the drug totally. the wewee— fuelling the drug totally. the wewee wewee. — fuelling the drug totally. the wewee wewee. w— fuelling the drug totally. the drugs trade. i-just- fuelling the drug totally. the drugs trade. i just talking drugs trade. i was just 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wwew— someone. i think people need to wwew wew— someone. i think people need to know you cannot— someone. i think people need to know you cannot murder someone in know you cannot murder someone ww—ze- know you cannot murder someone ww—ze wewwwel in the street and get 28 months. wewee— in the street and get 28 months. wewee-we— in the street and get 28 months. wew-ee-we-eeeeee- you're going to get a proper- sentence-manslaughter. sentence. well, manslaughter. manslaughter. some of the manslaughter adjudications are truly, truly shocking. if you asked gb views, i think one of the things that really upsets people is they read a court case because they're not there and they see the sentence at the end of it and they feel it's too lenient. they think it's too lenient. they think it's too lenient. they think it's too lenient. they want to see the judges. now, the judges themselves got difficulties themselves have got difficulties because ordered. because they have been ordered. right. got the space. right. we haven't got the space. do not do this. not the do not do this. it's not the judges fault. build more jails, make the sentence longer. we seem to be able to build enormous camps for migrants. i can't understand don't can't understand why we don't build them for people who have criminal in our country criminal intent in our country know i think i've got the solution on. i think and suella eeweewww wew— solution on. i think and suella braverman you can— wiw“ wiw“ i think and suella braverman you can listen to this werew— braverman you can listen to this we we— braverman you can listen to this ticket and claim— braverman you can listen to this ticket and claim it— braverman you can listen to this ticket and claim it as your own. i ticket and claim it as your own. w wwe— ticket and claim it as your own. w wwwww wwww— ticket and claim it as your own. i think that we— ticket and claim it as your own. i think that we should mimic wwww— i think that we should mimic wwww wwew— i think that we should mimic what they did— i think that we should mimic what they did back in new york eeewew— what they did back in new york broken windows— what they did back in new york broken windows theory, where you eweeww— broken windows theory, where you wwweewww-wew — broken windows theory, where you literally-you eww— broken windows theory, where you literally you say, right literally see you say, right ewewew— literally see you say, right ewewew-eewwe- literally see you say, right. enough,-going.start enough, we are going to start wwww— enough, we are going to start with-absolute— enough, we are going to start with absolute basics and you with the absolute basics and you can

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wants to get these people. the other of me thinks they go other part of me thinks they go to prison, come out, they to prison, they come out, they reoffend. is very reoffend. prison is not a very good solution. yes. but it's a wewee— good solution. yes. but it's a better solution— good solution. yes. but it's a better solution than- g: “ yes. but it's a better solution than having them wwweeewwe— better solution than having them wandering community wandering around on community eeewee. —eww- wandering around on community service. _say, that's. wandering around on community sen kind say, that's wandering around on community sen kind of say, that's wandering around on community senkind of thing say, that's wandering around on community senkind of thing i say, that's wandering around on community senkind of thing i do., that's wandering around on community senkind of thing i do. that's wandering around on community senkind of thing i do. rat's wandering around on community senkind of thing i do. w:wiws the kind of thing i do. i do wew— the kind of thing i do. i do we eweeww— the kind of thing i do. i do walk people on— the kind of thing i do. i do walk people on the- the kind of thing i do. i do walk people on the fasten in the motorway and flash my lights and get out. that is shocking you get out. that is shocking if you want meander want to. hoping to meander wewe— want to. hoping to meander wwewe wwew— want to. hoping to meander along, then pack— want to. hoping to meander along, then pack it- hoping to meander along, then pack it in and get in along, then pack it in and get ww wwe— along, then pack it in and get ww we ewew— along, then pack it in and get in the slow and— along, then pack it in and get in the slow and get out of my ww— in the slow and get out of my www-wew— in the slow and get out of my we we we — in the slow and get out of my way.-not the slow- in the slow and get out of my way. not the slow lane, as way. it is not the slow lane, as you— way. it is not the slow lane, as wew wwe— way. it is not the slow lane, as you wwu wew— way. it is not the slow lane, as you will well know. if you've ever been on— you will well know. if you've ever been on one— you will well know. if you've ever been on one those ever been on one of those eewwwe— ever been on one of those driving courses- ever been on one of those driving courses an hour. thank you— driving courses an hour. thank wew-wwew.— driving courses an hour. thank wew-wwew. we— driving courses an hour. thank you much. it's shocker you very much. it's a shocker getting to off now. look, getting to turn off now. look, speaking of people that in speaking of people that are in trouble, donald trump is in trouble, donald trump is in trouble on way to trouble and he's on his way to court as speak. look at that. court as we speak. look at that. everybody not we don't everybody do not say we don't bnng everybody do not say we don't bring all of it. look at bring you all of it. look at that. where are you? michelle? are that. where are you? michelle? wee-wewwwee— that. where are you? michelle? are-behind? yeah- that. where are you? michelle? are-behind? yeah lord- �*tw�*“witi ?ti 7 michelle? are behind? yeah lord only are you behind? yeah lord only wewe— are you behind? yeah lord only wwewe wwew— are you behind? yeah lord only knows which one— are you behind? yeah lord only knows which one is trump. “43?" knows which one is trump. yeah, wew-u— knows which one is trump. yeah, wwew-we— knows which one is trump. yeah, that'll-the first- knows which one is trump. yeah, that'll-the first one. that'll be. i'd be the first one there. look, overtaking, weaving my michael my way around. michael stadler now beginning there, now beginning right up there, beeping of my way. beeping him. get out of my way. anyway, trump. anyway, that is donald trump. he's route to court. he's en route to court. is it a witch hunt? is it necessary? give your thoughts. we'll be

give me your thoughts. we'll be looking that when we come looking at that when we come back. into do not go back. and more into do not go anywhere .

hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry right through till 7:00 tonight. the former editor of the sun newspaper, kelvin mackenzie , keeps me company, as mackenzie, keeps me company, as does the political commentator peter matthew stadlen . good peter matthew stadlen. good evening. welcome back to everybody. we've been bringing you the latest on that horrific situation in nottingham. if you're waiting to hear more on that worry not we will have anything new as soon as it happens , graham says. i live in happens, graham says. i live in nottingham , i have done for nottingham, i have done for years. it's sickens me. he says he feels sick to his stomach now that horrendous situation which has seen three people die , three has seen three people die, three others now injured as well. donald trump,

others now injured as well. donald trump , though we've just donald trump, though we've just been talking a lot about law and order in this country, but he is en route to court in miami as we speak right now. i love these kind of beds . speak right now. i love these kind of beds. i images. part of me, i feel like i'm watching some kind of weird video game or something. but no, this is live . it is in miami. he, of course , is due to appear in court on federal charges, 37 of them to be absolutely precise. some of them are prison sentences of up to 20 years. donald trump is the eweew— to 20 years. donald trump is the eweew wwww— to 20 years. donald trump is the eweew wwww weeee— to 20 years. donald trump is the story that keeps on— $70 get??? donald trump is the story that keeps on giving, wew-w— story that keeps on giving, wew-w we,— story that keeps on giving, isn't he, michelle? and the weeww— isn't he, michelle? and the weeww wew— isn't he, michelle? and the media, left or— isn't he, michelle? and the media, left or right or bang in the media, left or right or bang in we wewe— media, left or right or bang in the middle. love— media, left or right or bang in the middle. love him, don't wwew— the middle. love him, don't they? because— the middle. love him, don't they? because he sells papers. he they? because he sells papers. we ewe— they? because he sells papers. we ewwe wwwe— they? because he sells papers. he puts bums on— they? because he sells papers. he puts bums on seats in front of television.— he puts bums on seats in front of television. so _ he puts bums on seats in front of television. so one thing i we— of television. so one thing i wwu eww— of television. so one thing i will say about— of television. so one thing i will say about this and of course, we can't prejudge the eweee— course, we can't prejudge the ewweee ew— course, we can't prejudge the outcome of these— course, we can't prejudge the outcome of these proceedings, is wwww— outcome of these proceedings, is wwww w— outcome of these proceedings, is that a fundamental tenet of a eeweeewew— that a fundamental tenet of a democracy? and— that a fundamental tenet of a democracy? and i— that a fundamental tenet of a democracy? and i hope everyone wwwewwwe— democracy? and i hope everyone wwwewwwe-weeww- democracy? and i hope everyone watching today agrees watching gb news today agrees a wwwewwewwww— watching gb news today agrees a fundamental tenet— watching gb news today agrees a fundamental tenet of a democracy is fundamental tenet of a democracy we wwww— fundamental tenet of a democracy we wwww we— fundamental tenet of a democracy we wwww we ee— fundamental tenet of a democracy is that no one is— fundamental tenet of a democracy is that no one is above the law. wwe— is that no one is above the law. we wwe— is that no one is above the law. this was the bloke— is that no one is above the law. this was the bloke who was the wee—

this was the bloke who was the weew-wwwww- this was the bloke who was the most human being in the most powerful human being in the ewe— most powerful human being in the ewwwew wee— most powerful human being in the ewwwew wee wew— most powerful human being in the planet for four years. and here he planet for four years. and here we-wweee— planet for four years. and here he these proceedings as he is in these proceedings as eeeewe— he is in these proceedings as some people watching this will be some people watching this will we ewewwwwe— some people watching this will be shouting at— some people watching this will be shouting at the screens and going,— be shouting at the screens and eewe wew,— be shouting at the screens and going, well, some— be shouting at the screens and going, well, some people as wew. — going, well, some people as wew. .eww— going, well, some people as well. .say they're- going, well, some people as- well. .say they're-above well. you say they're not above the some people, they'll be the law. some people, they'll be saying not above a witch saying are not above a witch hunt mackenzie, hunt either. kelvin mackenzie, what think? well, the what do you think? well, the main what do you think? well, the wwe— what do you think? well, the wwwwe w— what do you think? well, the main thing i think— what do you think? well, the main thing i think is- w:wiw “17 well, the main thing i think is it's wwew— main thing i think is it's wweewlewew- main thing i think is it's hardly story anymore. the hardly a story anymore. the eweew— hardly a story anymore. the eweew-wwew- hardly a story anymore. the story when trump hardly a story anymore. the. story-when trump is story should be when trump is not story should be when trump is wew-ww— story should be when trump is wew-www we— story should be when trump is not-way to court.- story should be when trump is not way to court. yeah not on his way to court. yeah i we— not on his way to court. yeah i mean, he faces— not on his way to court. yeah i mean, he faces about five eweeww— mean, he faces about five different five _ mean, he faces about five different five different areas of different five different areas ew wueeee— different five different areas of alleged crime now , this one of alleged crime now, this one is of alleged crime now, this one we eweewewew— of alleged crime now, this one is enormously serious. of alleged crime now, this one is enormously serious . yes. but is enormously serious. yes. but wew— is enormously serious. yes. but wew wwe— is enormously serious. yes. but how mad would— is enormously serious. yes. but how mad would he have to be to wwe— how mad would he have to be to we wewee— how mad would he have to be to we wewee ew— how mad would he have to be to have boxes of top— how mad would he have to be to have boxes of top secret files in have boxes of top secret files ww wwe— have boxes of top secret files in his shower— have boxes of top secret files in his shower and— have boxes of top secret files in his shower and in his wwwweeew— in his shower and in his bathroom and- in his shower and in his bathroom and literally hanging wewee— bathroom and literally hanging weewwe ww— bathroom and literally hanging around in the— bathroom and literally hanging around in the ballroom of his wewe— around in the ballroom of his wewe ww— around in the ballroom of his wewe w w— around in the ballroom of his home in in florida ? so you have home in in florida? so you have to home in in florida? so you have we wew— home in in florida? so you have to ask whether— home in in florida? so you have to ask whether ,_ home in in florida? so you have to ask whether , to— home in in florida? so you have to ask whether , to be honest to ask whether, to be honest wwww— to ask whether, to be honest wwww wew— to ask whether, to be honest with you, whether trump is all wew— with you, whether trump is all eweww ww— with you, whether trump is all eweww ww we — with you, whether trump is all right at the moment, because eeeewe— right at the moment, because eeeewe eww— right at the moment, because some people say some people say, eew-w— some people say some people say, eew-w wwew— some people say some people say, eew-w wwew wwww— some people say some people say, don't they, that trump is ewwewe. — don't they, that trump is ewwewe. we— don't they, that trump is stupid. it's the- don't they, that trump is stupid. e “wg stupid. it's the easy thing to say. it's the easy word to reach for. i've never thought he's stupid. he's been running rings

around of us for years around the likes of us for years . but as say , if he held . but as you say, if he held these documents in the way that he's alleged to have done, you just think, what on earth was he thinking? supposing it was the eewwwweww— thinking? supposing it was the equivalent over— thinking? supposing it was the equivalent over here. - “wg7’ supposing it was the equivalent over here. supposing wwew— equivalent over here. supposing rishi literally— equivalent over here. supposing rishi literally had— equivalent over here. supposing rishi literally had a box of top eeew— rishi literally had a box of top eeew twee— rishi literally had a box of top secret files in— rishi literally had a box of top secret files in his— rishi literally had a box of top secret files in his bathroom or in secret files in his bathroom or ww swwewee-e— secret files in his bathroom or in starmer's in— secret files in his bathroom or in starmer's in starmer's front room or something like that? we wewe— room or something like that? we wewee we— room or something like that? we would we would— room or something like that? we would we would be outraged . the would we would be outraged. the wwe— would we would be outraged. the wwwwe wwew— would we would be outraged. the thing about america is america is thing about america is america we eweeww.— thing about america is america is different. it— thing about america is america is different. it is— thing about america is america is different. it is a— thing about america is america is different. it is a continent . wwe— is different. it is a continent . and unfortunately for america , wwe— . and unfortunately for america , the situation— . and unfortunately for america , the situation is— . and unfortunately for america , the situation is that no wwwwee— , the situation is that no matter how _ , the situation is that no matter how mad he is or how much jail matter how mad he is or how much rwww eeweweew— matter how mad he is or how much rwww eeweweew we— matter how mad he is or how much jail sentence he gets— matter how mad he is or how much jail sentence he gets , he would jail sentence he gets, he would eww— jail sentence he gets, he would still represent— jail sentence he gets, he would still represent probably , i still represent probably, i eew-w— still represent probably, i eew-w wwew,— still represent probably, i don't know, something ewweeeewwe— don't know, something staggering, like 34% of the wewwwe— staggering, like 34% of the wewwwe ewewe— staggering, like 34% of the voting public of america, eeewwee— voting public of america, because the— voting public of america, because the difference is they do because the difference is they ee wew— because the difference is they we wew wwew— because the difference is they do not trust politicians . so do not trust politicians. so wwew— do not trust politicians. so wwew wwe— do not trust politicians. so wwew wwwe w— do not trust politicians. so they have a feeling that all eewwwwewwwe— they have a feeling that all politicians have— they have a feeling that all politicians have the hand in the till politicians have the hand in the wwu .— politicians have the hand in the wwu . we— politicians have the hand in the wwu . we ww— politicians have the hand in the till . we may not— politicians have the hand in the till . we may not trust them, but till. we may not trust them, but we eew-w— till. we may not trust them, but we don't believe— till. we may not trust them, but we don't believe it— till. we may not trust them, but we don't believe it is a country of incredible— we don't believe it is a country of incredible contradictions weewwee— of incredible contradictions because while— of incredible contradictions because while you can be put to eeww— because while you can be put to eewww ww— because while you can be put to eewww ww eewe— because while you can be put to death in some states in america,

wwew— death in some states in america, wwew w— death in some states in america, which i thoroughly— death in some states in america, which i thoroughly disagree wwww— which i thoroughly disagree wwww-ewwu- which i thoroughly disagree with,-still give- which i thoroughly disagree with, still give an with, you can still give an wwweewew— with, you can still give an interview right— with, you can still give an interview right up to the last weweww— interview right up to the last moment because of freedom of eeeeew. — moment because of freedom of eeeeew. -eewee- moment because of freedom of eeeeew. -eewee .- moment because of freedom of speech. _course , we've moment because of freedom of- speech. _course , we've got speech. and of course, we've got social live a social media. we live in a social media. we live in a social media. we live in a social media day and age as well, don't we, these days? lots of things get said there. philip says, i wish trump would says, i wish that trump would come uk and join forces come to the uk and join forces with boris and nigel and form a new party. can you imagine? i don't. i don't mean to burst your bubble, philip, but i don't really think that's going to happen any time soon. kelvin well, i'd like to read what the manifesto said. well, i'll tell you— manifesto said. well, i'll tell you wewe— manifesto said. well, i'll tell you w, w— manifesto said. well, i'll tell you what, i doubt— it?“ w: well, i'll tell you what, i doubt whether they wewe— you what, i doubt whether they wewee wewee— you what, i doubt whether they would agree on— you what, i doubt whether they would agree on it. �*tw�*will ti would agree on it. well, you're in luck then, because, look, it's almost i'll tell it's almost 7:00, so i'll tell you what can do with your you what you can do with your night. can off and you night. you can go off and you can read the manifesto and you can read the manifesto and you can in it. you can can see what's in it. you can come back and you can report to us all another night. but look, that all we have time for. that is all we have time for. i've company. i've i've enjoyed your company. i've enjoyed thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you very gentlemen. thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home gentlemen. thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home as gentlemen. thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home as well emen. thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home as well today. thank you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home as well today. byink you enjoyed yours, too. thank you ve home as well today. by the you at home as well today. by the way, show is two years old. way, this show is two years old. can you believe that? we'll be looking at looking tomorrow at night at

that. thank you for supporting us.cant that. thank you for supporting us. can't wait to show you some of best bits. but for of the show's best bits. but for now, you so much. you do now, thank you so much. you do agree with me, of about agree with me, lots of you about broken britain maybe broken broken britain and maybe broken windows. to adopt windows. is it time to adopt that the uk to that strategy here in the uk to sort it all out? i say yes, but for now, good night and i will see you tomorrow evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your- alex deakin. this is your latest wewwwee— alex deakin. this is your latest weather-from - alex deakin. this is your latest weather-from .metl alex deakin. this is your latest weathtfor from met alex deakin. this is your latest weathtfor gb from met alex deakin. this is your latest weathtfor gb news.n met alex deakin. this is your latest weathtfor gb news. anotheret office for gb news. another ewwww— office for gb news. another ewwww wew— office for gb news. another sunny, very warm one. tomorrow ewewee— sunny, very warm one. tomorrow wewee—ww— sunny, very warm one. tomorrow wwewwee—wv wwe- sunny, very warm one. tomorrow another uv and grass another day where uv and grass eewew— another day where uv and grass eewwew wewewe— another day where uv and grass pollen levels are— another day where uv and grass pollen levels are going to be wwew— pollen levels are going to be wwew ee— pollen levels are going to be wwew ee-wwew— pollen levels are going to be high or high. the high or very high. the pressure's high to the north of the pressure's high to the north of wwe-wwww-e— pressure's high to the north of the-that's why— pressure's high to the north of the that's why weather the uk. that's why the weather is the uk. that's why the weather we-wweee— the uk. that's why the weather we-wweee eew— the uk. that's why the weather is-large set fair. - the uk. that's why the weather is large set fair. but we is by and large set fair. but we wwe— is by and large set fair. but we we wewww— is by and large set fair. but we have again seen— is by and large set fair. but we have again seen some thunderstorms and still some eewweewe— thunderstorms and still some downpours rumbling on well into the downpours rumbling on well into we ewewwwe— downpours rumbling on well into we ewewwwe .— downpours rumbling on well into the evening , potentially causing the evening, potentially causing ewewee— the evening, potentially causing some further disruption across the some further disruption across we weew— some further disruption across we weew ew— some further disruption across the west of scotland. and the wee— the west of scotland. and the weew ew— the west of scotland. and the west of northern— the west of scotland. and the west of northern ireland, but wewe— west of northern ireland, but wwewwe wwe— west of northern ireland, but fading and most— west of northern ireland, but fading and most places becoming dry fading and most places becoming ew wwe— fading and most places becoming dry wt wee— fading and most places becoming dry and clear. the— fading and most places becoming dry and clear. the easterly weee— dry and clear. the easterly breeze bringing— dry and clear. the easterly breeze bringing a fresher feel to breeze bringing a fresher feel we we— breeze bringing a fresher feel we we ewew— breeze bringing a fresher feel to the east overnight, a more eewweewwwwe— to the east overnight, a more comfortable night for sleeping. but comfortable night for sleeping. eww r.— comfortable night for sleeping. eww r. we— comfortable night for sleeping. but in the west,— comfortable night for sleeping. but in the west, another sticky wwewwee— but in the west, another sticky one. another warm, another humid reweeewwwee— one. another warm, another humid one. temperatures holding up at 16 one. temperatures holding up at we we— one. temperatures holding up at we we w— one. temperatures holding up at 16 to 17 celsius— one. temperatures holding up at

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and a series of horrific i and a series of horrific attacks. i and a series of- horrific attacks overnight in wewwwwewww. — horrific attacks overnight in nottingham. �*tw�*wi cl horrific attacks overnight in nottingham. �*tw�*wi at “wg horrific attacks overnight in nottingham. at “wg nottingham. we will bring you all the latest news on the attacker. we'll also go over to miami because donald trump will be in court in just two hours time. and we'll ask with the covid inquiry why ? why will it covid inquiry why? why will it go on until 2026? what possible use could that be? but before all of that , let's get the news all of that, let's get the news from polly middlehurst. thank you