getting married in prison. it makes me feel sick. i can't even get myself started thinking about what kind of woman would want to marry that creature. but if i press pause on that thought and instead ask myself, do you think is serial killer should be getting married behind bars .7 i getting married behind bars.7 i do and i will be talking to do not. and i will be talking to the detective that did us huge the detective that did us a huge favour by taking levi off the streets and sticking him in prison . thank you to that man. prison. thank you to that man. and climber. it's all based on how i enjoy the just stop oil gang shout out to the just stop oil gang. what an absolute

state. i mean, come on now. we've got a heatwave. we've got heat warnings. you've got hosepipe bans, solar powers that are not working. what's going on.7 oil is being the answer for the last few weeks . just stop. the last few weeks. just stop. oil, of course, wanting to stop that. i mean, come on. we need to talk about all this climate nonsense, don't we.7 and to talk about all this climate nonsense, don't we? and wicks, if you're a diyer who believes in reality, of course . i mean in reality, of course. i mean that a man is a man and a woman is a woman. you might not be so welcome at the stores. the ceo has been speaking out, calling us all a load of old bigots. basically, what's going on with company bosses? why don't they just nose off and all just keep their nose off and all this kind weird virtue this kind of weird virtue signalling instead signalling bandwagon and instead focus on just selling their products and having a little bit old fashioned and are you posh ? old fashioned and are you posh? do you think you have to be to get on in life? class discrimination , accent, discrimination, accent, discrimination? is it a real thing? we'll have it all. everybody and joining me is my friday favourites . i bet you friday favourites. i bet you know who they are we'll get into

it in just but before we it in just a sec. but before we do . news thank you very do the. news thank you very much, michelle. i'm rory smith in the— much, michelle. i'm rory smith in the newsroom— much, michelle. i'm rory smith in the newsroom a— much, michelle. i'm rory smith in the newsroom a man- c i�*i�* i'm rory smith in the newsroom a man has been charged— in the newsroom a man has been charged wm.— in the newsroom a man has been charged with the— in the newsroom a man has been charged with the murders of three— charged with the murders of the people— charged with the murders of three people in— charged with the murders of three people in nottingham's knife— three people in nottingham's knife attacks— three people in nottingham's knife attacks on— three people in nottingham's knife attacks on tuesday . 31 knife attacks on tuesday. 31 year— knife attacks on tuesday. 31 year ere— knife attacks on tuesday. 31 year old osvaldo carlos khan, a former— year old osvaldo carlos khan, a former student— year old osvaldo carlos khan, a former student of— year old osvaldo carlos khan, a former student of nottingham rrrrrvererry, — former student of nottingham rrrrrvererry, re— former student of nottingham university, is accused of mung— university, is accused of killing barnaby webber. grace o'mallevr— killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley, kumar_ killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley, kumar and ian coates . o'malley, kumar and ian coates. ree— o'malley, kumar and ian coates. re-e arse— o'malley, kumar and ian coates. he's also accused— o'malley, kumar and ian coates. he's also accused of three corner— he's also accused of three corner or— he's also accused of three counts of attempted murder after rrree— counts of attempted murder after rrrree peepre— counts of attempted murder after three people were— counts of attempted murder after three people were injured when they— three people were injured when new were— three people were injured when rrrew wr— three people were injured when they were hit by— three people were injured when they were hit by a— three people were injured when they were hit by a van that merwrwg. — they were hit by a van that merwrwg. wee— they were hit by a van that morning. he's due to appear at werrrwgrrem— morning. he's due to appear at nottingham magistrates court tomorrow . the— nottingham magistrates court tomorrow . the advisory committee tomorrow. the advisory committee on tomorrow. the advisory committee or business— tomorrow. the advisory committee on business appointments is eeewerwg— on business appointments is eeewerwg eerie— on business appointments is accusing boris johnson of eemmrrrrwg— accusing boris johnson of committing a— accusing boris johnson of committing a clear breach of the wee-r — committing a clear breach of the rules. according— committing a clear breach of the rules. according to— committing a clear breach of the rules. according to the watchdog , rrre — rules. according to the watchdog , rrre former— rules. according to the watchdog , the former prime— rules. according to the watchdog , the former prime minister reformed— , the former prime minister informed them— , the former prime minister informed them of his new role as a informed them of his new role as e eerwmwrer— informed them of his new role as eeerwmwrer er— informed them of his new role as a columnist at the— informed them of his new role as a columnist at the daily mail. a herr— a columnist at the daily mail. a weer rewr— a columnist at the daily mail. a half hour before— a columnist at the daily mail. a half hour before the public announcement— half hour before the public announcement . the ministerial announcement. the ministerial cede— announcement. the ministerial eeee requires— announcement. the ministerial code requires those who have

refr— code requires those who have left government— code requires those who have left government in the last two weare— left government in the last two years re— left government in the last two years to apply— left government in the last two years to apply to_ left government in the last two years to apply to the independ erre— years to apply to the independ are wereweeg— years to apply to the independ and watchdog for— years to apply to the independ and watchdog for advice on rewire— and watchdog for advice on rewrwg rp— and watchdog for advice on rewrwg up a— and watchdog for advice on taking up a new appointment. wen— taking up a new appointment. weu wre— taking up a new appointment. well his first— taking up a new appointment. well his first article is on how a well his first article is on how ewergrrr— well his first article is on how ewergrr rees— well his first article is on how a weight loss drug did not work weu— a weight loss drug did not work weu rer— a weight loss drug did not work weu for him,— a weight loss drug did not work well for him, saying he will onw— well for him, saying he will errw cower— well for him, saying he will only cover polish sticks when he ebeerwrew— only cover polish sticks when he absolutely has— only cover polish sticks when he absolutely has to. _ only cover polish sticks when he absolutely has to. well, it comes as the _ absolutely has to. well, it comes as the prime minister , comes as the prime minister, weer— comes as the prime minister, were swear,— comes as the prime minister, rishi sunak, faces a battle to were— rishi sunak, faces a battle to were we— rishi sunak, faces a battle to were we rew— rishi sunak, faces a battle to hold his tory party together errer— hold his tory party together we were— hold his tory party together after boris johnson was found to wave— after boris johnson was found to have new— after boris johnson was found to have new re— after boris johnson was found to have lied to mps_ after boris johnson was found to have lied to mps over partygate a deb...— have lied to mps over partygate e debere erre— have lied to mps over partygate a debate and vote— have lied to mps over partygate a debate and vote on the rrrwregee— a debate and vote on the privileges committee report purrreree— privileges committee report published yesterday will take prece— published yesterday will take preee wr— published yesterday will take preee we we— published yesterday will take place in the commons on monday , place in the commons on monday, wrrrr— place in the commons on monday, we seme— place in the commons on monday, we rew— place in the commons on monday, with some tory mps_ place in the commons on monday, with some tory mps uncertain aberr— with some tory mps uncertain abewr wher— with some tory mps uncertain about what to— with some tory mps uncertain about what to do. _ with some tory mps uncertain about what to do. mr johnson , about what to do. mr johnson, wre— about what to do. mr johnson, who hee— about what to do. mr johnson, who has branded— about what to do. mr johnson, who has branded the report deranged— who has branded the report eerehgee ,— who has branded the report deranged , remains popular with deranged, remains popular with many— deranged, remains popular with many or— deranged, remains popular with many or he— deranged, remains popular with many or he perry— deranged, remains popular with many of his party members and his many of his party members and he mesh— many of his party members and he meer rewar— many of his party members and his most loyal supporters are expeeree— his most loyal supporters are expeereh re— his most loyal supporters are expected to vote— his most loyal supporters are expected to vote against it. wen— expected to vote against it. well number— expected to vote against it. well number 10 hasn't yet said if he— well number 10 hasn't yet said if he rrhhe— well number 10 hasn't yet said if the prime minister will whene— if the prime minister will attend that— if the prime minister will attend that vote, but shadow women and equalities secretary ahheheee— women and equalities secretary anneliese dodds_ women and equalities secretary anneliese dodds says the prime rrhherer— anneliese dodds says the prime minister needs— anneliese dodds says the prime minister needs to— anneliese dodds says the prime minister needs to stand up to mr johnson— minister needs to stand up to mr johnson . — minister needs to stand up to mr johnson . r— minister needs to stand up to mr

johnson . i think— minister needs to stand up to mr johnson . i think its— minister needs to stand up to mr johnson . �*" r: g; johnson. i think its findings are and they really indicate that boris johnson was a lawbreaker, but also that he was a liar, that he misled parliament. now it's time for rishi sunak to actually show some backbone. you know, he's not shown backbone on this so far. the taxpayers picked up bofis far. the taxpayers picked up boris johnson's legal bill. rishi sunak has shown himself to be unwilling to stand up to egos in his party. until now. be unwilling to stand up to egos in his party. until now . we've in his party. until now. we've got so much psychodrama still in the conservative party when it should be focussed on delivering the people's priority is the former director general of the police watchdog has been charged with raping a girl under the age of 16. michael lockwood is of16. michael lockwood is eeweee— of16. michael lockwood is eeweeh er— of16. michael lockwood is accused of six— �*7 michael lockwood is accused of six counts of hheeehr— accused of six counts of indecent assault and three eewher— indecent assault and three eewrer er— indecent assault and three counts of rape— indecent assault and three counts of rape against the reeheger.— counts of rape against the teenager. the— counts of rape against the teenager. the crown prosecution service— teenager. the crown prosecution serwee ewe— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64 year old erregeew— service says the 64 year old allegedly committed the crimes hwhhg— allegedly committed the crimes hwhhg rhe— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s.— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s. he left the heeheheehr— during the 1980s. he left the independent office for police cohere— independent office for police cehhwer h— independent office for police conduct in december after it

emerged— conduct in december after it emerged he— conduct in december after it emerged he was— conduct in december after it emerged he was being investigated- emerged he was being investigated over a historical ehegeheh— investigated over a historical ehegeheh .— investigated over a historical allegation . strikes by junior allegation. strikes by junior decree— allegation. strikes by junior heerere h— allegation. strikes by junior doctors in england continue you if wow-re— doctors in england continue you if you're watching— doctors in england continue you if you're watching on television , vou— if you're watching on television , wow cah— if you're watching on television , you can see pictures of people eerheree— , you can see pictures of people gerheree h— , you can see pictures of people gathered in westminster this errerheeh— gathered in westminster this afternoon in— gathered in westminster this afternoon in support of almost 50,000— afternoon in support of almost 50,000 members— afternoon in support of almost 50,000 members of the british wehheer— 50,000 members of the british medical association who are erhhhg— medical association who are erhhhg ee— medical association who are striking as part— medical association who are striking as part of their 72 how— striking as part of their 72 hour indust— striking as part of their 72 hour indust action. the dispute remains deadlocked with no talks hhhhee— remains deadlocked with no talks prehheh rhe— remains deadlocked with no talks prehheh and e— remains deadlocked with no talks planned and a standoff between the planned and a standoff between rhe hww— planned and a standoff between rhe hrrrr rhe— planned and a standoff between the bma and the— planned and a standoff between the bma and the government . the the bma and the government. the wire— the bma and the government. the erhhe ehee— the bma and the government. the erhhe ehee er— the bma and the government. the strike ends at 7:00— the bma and the government. the strike ends at 7:00 tomorrow morning— strike ends at 7:00 tomorrow morning .— strike ends at 7:00 tomorrow morning . a— strike ends at 7:00 tomorrow morning . a hosepipe and morning. a hosepipe and ehrhher— morning. a hosepipe and sprinkler ban— morning. a hosepipe and sprinkler ban is to be introduced- sprinkler ban is to be introduced in kent and sussex hem— introduced in kent and sussex from he— introduced in kent and sussex from the 26th— introduced in kent and sussex from the 26th of— introduced in kent and sussex from the 26th of june. as the herrwewe— from the 26th of june. as the heatwave across— from the 26th of june. as the heatwave across the country eehhweer— heatwave across the country eehhweer .— heatwave across the country continues. eu's_ heatwave across the country continues . eu's south—east water continues. eu's south—east water ewe— continues. eu's south—east water ewe he— continues. eu's south—east water ewe rr-e hrhghg— continues. eu's south—east water says it's bringing in— continues. eu's south—east water says it's bringing in the ban armh— says it's bringing in the ban amid shortages— says it's bringing in the ban amid shortages in the two eewhrhee— amid shortages in the two counties where— amid shortages in the two counties where drinking water hee— counties where drinking water he reached— counties where drinking water has reached record demand. this herm— has reached record demand. this rhehrh. seme— has reached record demand. this month. some households in kent and sweeer— month. some households in kent and sussex have— month. some households in kent and sussex have been without wher— and sussex have been without were he— and sussex have been without water since monday due to supply whhe— water since monday due to supply issues while rule— water since monday due to supply issues while rule breakers could

rhe— issues while rule breakers could find themselves— issues while rule breakers could find themselves hit with a ehooo— find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine. _ find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine. conservative mp nus ehehh— £1,000 fine. conservative mp nus ehwhh rere— £1,000 fine. conservative mp nus ehwhh row we— £1,000 fine. conservative mp nus ghani told us there— £1,000 fine. conservative mp nus ghani told us there was no error— ghani told us there was no error hwr— ghani told us there was no option but to _ ghani told us there was no option but to impose that ban. i knew— option but to impose that ban. i knew eweehew— option but to impose that ban. i know everyone doesn't want a heeephe— know everyone doesn't want a heeeprpe hwh — know everyone doesn't want a heeeprpe hwh. r— know everyone doesn't want a hosepipe ban. : c hosepipe ban. i wanted it. it's here. it's a really good result. it means that people can have up to 10% more water in their in their systems at home. but look, really south—east water needs to get their get their act together. had a couple of together. we've had a couple of days sunshine people are days of sunshine and people are now not had water for up to five days and people don't even know when to be back by when it's going to be back by mutual agreement. spotify has ended he— mutual agreement. spotify has ended its lucrative— mutual agreement. spotify has ended its lucrative deal- g spotify has ended its lucrative deal with the ended its lucrative deal with he hwre— ended its lucrative deal with the duke and— ended its lucrative deal with the duke and duchess of sussex. meghan— the duke and duchess of sussex. hegheh warhe— the duke and duchess of sussex. meghan markle hosted just one poacher— meghan markle hosted just one podcast series— meghan markle hosted just one podcast series as— meghan markle hosted just one podcast series as part of the deer,— podcast series as part of the deer, whheh— podcast series as part of the deal, which ran— podcast series as part of the deal, which ran for 12 episodes. rhe— deal, which ran for 12 episodes. rhe eewhre— deal, which ran for 12 episodes. the couple signed— deal, which ran for 12 episodes. the couple signed the deal with the the couple signed the deal with he erreerhhg— the couple signed the deal with the streaming giant, estimated to the streaming giant, estimated re he— the streaming giant, estimated he he werrh— the streaming giant, estimated to be worth around £18 million in to be worth around £18 million h here— to be worth around £18 million h we mo.— to be worth around £18 million in late 2020. well, in a joint ehwherrerh— in late 2020. well, in a joint statement, the— in late 2020. well, in a joint statement, the two parties said hey— statement, the two parties said hey wee— statement, the two parties said hey prowe— statement, the two parties said they were proud of the series rhew— they were proud of the series her here— they were proud of the series they made together . the tv ,

they made together. the tv, enure— they made together. the tv, ehhhe, hehr— they made together. the tv, online, dab+ radio and on when.— online, dab+ radio and on tunein. this— online, dab+ radio and on tunein. this is— online, dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. heck— tunein. this is gb news nato. heer re— tunein. this is gb news nato. heer re .— back to. michelle rhwhre- back to. michelle thanks for that. back to. michelle— thanks for that. i'm michelle dewberry with you right through till 7:00 tonight. joining me your friday favourites. i get so many emails about these two. alex dean, the political consultant is alongside me as is paul embry, the trade unionist and broadcaster. normally says fireman on what's going on. i'm still a firefighter. oh yeah- fireman on what's going on. i'm still a firefighter. oh yeah .- still a firefighter. oh yeah . oh still a firefighter. oh yeah. oh yeah. — still a firefighter. oh yeah. oh yeah- hrghr. — still a firefighter. oh yeah. oh yeah- hrghr. oh— still a firefighter. oh yeah. oh yeah. right. o" who; r: yeah. right. oh yes. cat said. who was that the other day? that was messing around, was it? i want to say the navy, but i don't know if it was the navy, which body was that? i think it was yesterday getting rid of their gendered titles. i mean , their gendered titles. i mean, you're all looking at now, you're all looking at now, you're at redraught. you're looking at redraught. i think to think it's the army sometimes to be and people will be fair, and people will probably of being probably accuse me of being a bit woke now, but sometimes, to

be i think there's be fair, i think there's a certain logic to it. so, for example, certain logic to it. so, for ererhpre, yew— certain logic to it. so, for example, you know,- f " [1th rt. 0 so, for example, you know, women have been— example, you know, women have heeh-hehee— example, you know, women have been - police force - example, you know, women have been police force for been in the police force for heewhee— been in the police force for decades now.— been in the police force for decades now. it's a bit incongruous- decades now. it's a bit incongruous to call police erheere— incongruous to call police officers,-men- incongruous to call police officers, men when officers, police men when there are officers, police men when there ere—ahe- officers, police men when there. are _and likewise, are clearly women. and likewise, wow-e— are clearly women. and likewise, wew-e-rheh— are clearly women. and likewise, wew-e-rherh w— are clearly women. and likewise, you'd them a policewoman. you'd call them a policewoman. wen,— you'd call them a policewoman. weh,-eeh— you'd call them a policewoman. wew-ewh ew- you'd call them a policewoman. well,-can say you- well, okay, you can say you wen-r— well, okay, you can say you weer-rhe— well, okay, you can say you won't me policeman , well, okay, you can say you- won't-melpoliceman , would won't call me a policeman, would you won't call me a policeman, would yew-perheemeh— you say policeman and policewoman? speaking policewoman? but if you speaking whewr— about police officers in a generic— about police officers in a generic term,— about police officers in a generic term, think it's generic term, then i think it's eehehhre— generic term, then i think it's sensible-use— generic term, then i think it's sensible use police officers. sensible to use police officers. rhere— sensible to use police officers. there _firewoman,| sensible to use police officers.. there _firewoman, by there isn't a term firewoman, by the there isn't a term firewoman, by he wry. — there isn't a term firewoman, by he wry. ir— there isn't a term firewoman, by he wry. lr rhhh— there isn't a term firewoman, by the way. i think firefighter the way. so i think firefighter is the way. so i think firefighter he whhrephere. — the way. so i think firefighter is appropriate. i— the way. so i think firefighter is appropriate. i have no issue whh— is appropriate. i have no issue whh her.— is appropriate. i have no issue whh rhrr. rm— is appropriate. i have no issue with that. i'm going to be hemhere— with that. i'm going to be bombard guarded now with erhheherh — bombard guarded now with erhheherh hw— bombard guarded now with criticism by firefighter paul rhwwew— criticism by firefighter paul anyway . — criticism by firefighter paul anyway . shu— criticism by firefighter paul anyway . still a- criticism by firefighter paul anyway . t. �*" ”rt” g0t anyway. still a firefighter i just went around that long winded way that is one of my topics though a little bit later on in the program, have you seen what's on with wicks? why what's going on with wicks? why do these companies getting involved of this involved in all of this ridiculousness? wicks the ridiculousness? wicks is the latest says if you latest one. he says if you believe in biological sex, basically, i'm not sure you're that store. it's that welcome in the store. it's not down well social not gone down well on social media, you that for media, i can tell you that for free. you can get touch with free. you can get in touch with me usual ways tonight. me all the usual ways tonight. gb views at gb news .com is my email. or you can tweet me at gb

news talking about accents as well. i love your well. kim says i love your accent and your little sayings. you saying , so i accent and your little sayings. you saying, so i do. and you keep saying, so i do. and i almost. kim said it at the start of my program because i'd seen your email. i stopped myself. i got i need to come up with some new phrases and i was just about to say it again, but that'll be later on in the program. and that bellfield that that levi bellfield that absolute creature. absolute state of a creature. i want to talk to you about him later as well. whether or not want to talk to you about him lat shoulds well. whether or not want to talk to you about him lat should be ell. whether or not want to talk to you about him lat should be gettingether or not want to talk to you about him lat should be getting married.ot he should be getting married. i'll be to talking the detective that actually found that that actually found him that caught man he caught him. what a good man he was. a very good service. hasn't he? do you think that the prisoners like this be prisoners like this should be getting do and getting married? i do not. and i've got a twitter poll running on that topic well. so get on that topic as well. so get involved get into that involved and we'll get into that before of the program. before the end of the program. but now, the is out. one but for now, the sun is out. one of panellists feet are out. of my panellists feet are out. i can see one of their hairy toes. i won't tell you which it is. i'll leave it to your imagination. of the imagination. but of course the sun gets all excited, doesn't sun gets us all excited, doesn't it? but of course comes along it? but of course it comes along with exciting things, such with less exciting things, such as warnings. switch on as warnings. you can't switch on

your up your your telly or pick up your newspaper. these days without seeing warning. seeing some kind of warning. bright says crisis, bright red picture says crisis, heatwave. you name it. i mean, gosh, you'd think, actually we can't handle the weather in this country, not least because, of course, all the transport systems the have systems fail. the schools have to on and on it goes. to shut and on and on it goes. but if you've got solar panels, you might be thinking, yes, yes, i'm because it's i'm all right, because it's sunny. well, no, because actually barely works. it actually the barely works. so it seems sunshine the start seems in the sunshine the start reducing it comes to their reducing when it comes to their efficiency. but don't worry because haven't because we've got coal haven't we? remember that we're only just to use it, aren't we just about to use it, aren't we just oil have their way. we just stop oil have their way. we wouldn't use it. wouldn't be able to use it. these these clowns if you these lot, these clowns if you ask they've advocate ask me. they've started advocate drum bass slow cycles to try drum and bass slow cycles to try and get the government to stop with their oil and gas. but don't worry, because if you're all stressed out, you can go and water garden , but you can't water your garden, but you can't even do can you? because even do that, can you? because you it within about a you guessed it within about a second sunny, second of it being sunny, there's a hosepipe ban already. despite hottest , the despite that is the hottest, the wettest and april on wettest march and april on record. i can't make all of this

make sense. alex, i sit there and i think i don't know what is wrong with this country. well, let's take the bit that is kind of most tangible first. i appreciate it's frustrating to heehre— appreciate it's frustrating to heepre h— appreciate it's frustrating to people if they've paid that people if they've paid all that herew— people if they've paid all that rhehew-eehr- people if they've paid all that money solar panels put money to have solar panels put on money to have solar panels put eh—rher— money to have solar panels put eh—rher-eri money to have solar panels put. on _that-of them on their house that some of them wen-r— on their house that some of them weh-r-h— on their house that some of them won't-in certain— on their house that some of them won't in certain conditions won't work in certain conditions , won't work in certain conditions r-just_ won't work in certain conditions r-j'ust herr— , but it's just part of smoothing- , but it's just part of- smoothing-wrinkles of smoothing out the wrinkles of new technologies— smoothing out the wrinkles of new technologies and the trend is new technologies and the trend he cher— new technologies and the trend is clean-trend— new technologies and the trend is clear.-trend is- new technologies and the trend is clear. trend is towards is clear. the trend is towards more renewables_ is clear. the trend is towards more renewables time , and i more renewables over time, and i rhhhr— more renewables over time, and i rhhhr-rer— more renewables over time, and i rhhhr-rer rhe— more renewables over time, and i think-for the good- more renewables over time, and i think-for the good .- more renewables over time, and i think for the good . but think that's for the good. but where— think that's for the good. but what's happening this week with firing— what's happening this week with rhrhhe-eeeh— what's happening this week with firing-coal fired— what's happening this week with firing coal fired power firing up a coal fired power ererheh— firing up a coal fired power station reminds— firing up a coal fired power station reminds us that probably for hw— station reminds us that probably for my lifetime— station reminds us that probably for my lifetime at— station reminds us that probably for my lifetime at least. well we-hh— for my lifetime at least. well we-hh here— for my lifetime at least. well we'll have renewables in we'll have more renewables in the we'll have more renewables in rhe-we— we'll have more renewables in rhe-we wen-r— we'll have more renewables in the-we won't have- we'll have more renewables in the we won't have only the mix. we won't have only rehewehhee— the mix. we won't have only rehewehhee .— the mix. we won't have only renewables . so— the mix. we won't have only renewables . so it's good to be renewables. so it's good to be reehherhe— renewables. so it's good to be realistic about— renewables. so it's good to be realistic about where we are. re..— realistic about where we are. yes, we've made— realistic about where we are. yes, we've made progress . yes, realistic about where we are. yesshould.made progress . yes, realistic about where we are. yes should. weie progress . yes, realistic about where we are. yes should. we should'ess . yes, realistic about where we are. yes should. we should encourage we should. we should encourage and we should. we should encourage. and—renewables and want to have more renewables in and want to have more renewables hh-ehergw— and want to have more renewables hh-ehergw rhhr— and want to have more renewables in-energy mix. but— and want to have more renewables in energy mix. but we've got in our energy mix. but we've got to in our energy mix. but we've got re-ehrhehe— in our energy mix. but we've got re-ehrhehe eheh- in our energy mix. but we've got to options open and to keep our options open and rherhhhe— to keep our options open and rherhhhe ee— to keep our options open and flexible as a— to keep our options open and flexible as a country, not least so flexible as a country, not least ee rhrr— flexible as a country, not least ee rhrr we— flexible as a country, not least so that we can— flexible as a country, not least so that we can remain energy eeweeheh— so that we can remain energy eerereheh-ehergw- so that we can remain energy sovereign energy independent sovereign and energy independent herr— sovereign and energy independent from ew— sovereign and energy independent from our neighbours. thr sovereign and energy independent from our neighbours. th:r from our neighbours. do you have sewer— from our neighbours. do you have solar panels home? they solar panels at home? they tested apparently a benchmark of 25 degrees every degree rise 25 degrees for every degree rise in above that level in temperature above that level , the efficiency is reduced by

nought point five percentage points. i don't know why i'm laughing because i do feel a bit mean. if you've got solar panels, you might not appreciate mean. if you've got solar panlaughingnight not appreciate mean. if you've got solar panlaughing because appreciate mean. if you've got solar panlaughing because you've:iate me laughing because you've probably of probably spent an awful lot of money. you talk about energy mix, i can just bring that up on the i took a live shot the screen. i took a live shot of national grid earlier on today to have a look at today just to have a look at where energy is coming from. can today just to have a look at wh

constantly this country this constantly in this country this kind exercise lies kind of ridiculous exercise lies in self—abnegation , where we are in self—abnegation, where we are depriving ourselves of a critical thing that we clearly need and i just can't see really that it's anything more than posturing on the international stage, presenting ourselves as friends of the environment. when actually when you look at the when actually when you look at he were— when actually when you look at the carbon emissions from eewhrheer— the carbon emissions from countries like— the carbon emissions from countries like china and the us whe— countries like china and the us and er— countries like china and the us and er ewee— countries like china and the us and of course carbon emissions her-r— and of course carbon emissions don't understand— and of course carbon emissions don't understand national boundaries— don't understand national boundaries ,_ don't understand national boundaries , it's hard to see boundaries, it's hard to see her— boundaries, it's hard to see her hr— boundaries, it's hard to see her hr he— boundaries, it's hard to see that it is anything more than peerwrhhg— that it is anything more than posturing actually. and we do here— posturing actually. and we do here rhe— posturing actually. and we do have and we've— posturing actually. and we do have and we've seen it over the her— have and we've seen it over the her eewhhe— have and we've seen it over the her eewhhe er— have and we've seen it over the last couple of years, a chronic reek— last couple of years, a chronic heer er— last couple of years, a chronic heer er eherw— last couple of years, a chronic heer er eherw ,— last couple of years, a chronic lack of energy , security, of lack of energy, security, of energy— lack of energy, security, of energy independence in this eewhrw.— energy independence in this eewhrw. h— energy independence in this country. i think— energy independence in this country. i think we were far too ewher— country. i think we were far too ewheh re— country. i think we were far too ewheh re eheee— country. i think we were far too quick to phase out— country. i think we were far too quick to phase out coal. we've wher— quick to phase out coal. we've seen what can— quick to phase out coal. we've seen what can happen when there is seen what can happen when there he ee— seen what can happen when there is one international— is one international conflagration an you know, the hweehe— conflagration an you know, the hweehe whe— conflagration an you know, the russia and ukraine crisis and wher— russia and ukraine crisis and wher rhw— russia and ukraine crisis and what that has— russia and ukraine crisis and what that has meant for energy hhhhe— what that has meant for energy hhhhe rer— what that has meant for energy bills, for energy— what that has meant for energy bills, for energy security and so bills, for energy security and ee ahe— bills, for energy security and ee we r— bills, for energy security and so on. and i think we need to

get— so on. and i think we need to ger ew— so on. and i think we need to get our skates— so on. and i think we need to get our skates on— so on. and i think we need to get our skates on in terms of heerhhe— get our skates on in terms of heehhhg er— get our skates on in terms of looking at clean— get our skates on in terms of looking at clean coal technology , in looking at clean coal technology , hh rerrhe— looking at clean coal technology , hh rerrhe er— looking at clean coal technology , in terms of looking at freewhe— , in terms of looking at fracking, in— , in terms of looking at fracking, in terms of exploring hweewh h— fracking, in terms of exploring hweewh hh e— fracking, in terms of exploring nuclear, in a way— fracking, in terms of exploring nuclear, in a way that we hweh-r— nuclear, in a way that we haven't been— nuclear, in a way that we haven't been serious about for so haven't been serious about for ee mew— haven't been serious about for ee rhehw weee— haven't been serious about for so many years. and well, you say her heeh— so many years. and well, you say we've not been serious about it for we've not been serious about it her rhehw— we've not been serious about it her rhehw w — we've not been serious about it for many years. owe; for many years. one of the challenges in this country is the amount of short termism. so i'll play you this. this is i'll just play you this. this is a clip from 2010. nick clegg, you might be familiar with it. listen the most optimistic scenarios from the government itself, there is no way they're going to have new nuclear come on stream until about 2021, 2022. so it'sjust on stream until about 2021, 2022. so it's just not even an answer. so you've— ijoijij so it's just not even an answer. so you've got a lot of erher— answer. so you've got a lot of we rer— answer. so you've got a lot of stick for that,— answer. so you've got a lot of stick for that, right? 0 " stick for that, right? it was in me— stick for that, right? it was in 2020 reh— stick for that, right? it was in 2020 her. her— stick for that, right? it was in 2020 ten, but for me it does summarise there is not a lot of long term, there's a lot of long term promises and chat, but actually all politicians really care about is getting themselves re—elected this long re—elected and so all this long stuff kicked they stuff gets kicked out. if they had lit more stuff gets kicked out. if they had-lit more nuclear. stuff gets kicked out. if they- had-lit more nuclear power had green lit more nuclear power ererhehe— had green lit more nuclear power ererhehe h— had green lit more nuclear power stations in the— had green lit more nuclear power stations in the clegg era , stations in the clegg era, cwerew— stations in the clegg era, cameron clegg era, we would have had cameron clegg era, we would have her rhew— cameron clegg era, we would have her rhew ew— cameron clegg era, we would have had them on stream _ cameron clegg era, we would have had them on stream by now, at heeer— had them on stream by now, at heeer rhe— had them on stream by now, at least the start— had them on stream by now, at least the start of— had them on stream by now, at least the start of them. and i

rhhwr— least the start of them. and i rhhwh rher— least the start of them. and i think that that— least the start of them. and i think that that is— least the start of them. and i think that that is a salutary hee — think that that is a salutary heee er— think that that is a salutary lesson. of course, they did do eerhwhw— lesson. of course, they did do some activity in— lesson. of course, they did do some activity in that space. here— some activity in that space. that's-sizewell- some activity in that space. that's sizewell c went ahead that's why sizewell c went ahead and—we've seen- and that's why we've seen heeewee— and that's why we've seen heewee er— and that's why we've seen because of the— and that's why we've seen because of the argument about chhweee— because of the argument abouti chhweee—we-we chinese investment in it. we've seen the hinkley point development, but since seen the hinkley point development , but since the seen the hinkley point development, but since the 90s hee— development, but since the 90s we we— development, but since the 90s we've had no real— development, but since the 90s we've had no real development , we've had no real development, no we've had no real development, we ehewhrheewr— we've had no real development, no significant major development in no significant major development hw her-whee— no significant major development in nuclear. and— no significant major development in nuclear. and one— no significant major development in nuclear. and one of the where— in nuclear. and one of the here h— in nuclear. and one of the things i would— in nuclear. and one of the things i would take issue with ehewr— things i would take issue with ehewr rhe— things i would take issue with about the chart— things i would take issue with about the chart you showed, whheh— about the chart you showed, which-useful,- about the chart you showed, which-useful, is- about the chart you showed, which useful, is that i which is still useful, is that i eee-r— which is still useful, is that i eew-r rhhwh— which is still useful, is that i don't think-is- which is still useful, is that i don't think-is the- which is still useful, is that i don't think is the same as don't think coal is the same as eee. — don't think coal is the same as eee. eee— don't think coal is the same as eee. gasla— don't think coal is the same as gas. gas a bridging gas. gas is a bridging reehwehegw— gas. gas is a bridging technology to a much technology to a to a much heehrhher— technology to a to a much healthier-mix.- technology to a to a much healthier mix. coal is healthier energy mix. coal is far healthier energy mix. coal is her-hehhwrhwe- healthier energy mix. coal is far polluting than gas and far more polluting than gas and i far more polluting than gas and h rhhwh— far more polluting than gas and i think nuclear— far more polluting than gas and i think nuclear is— far more polluting than gas and i think nuclear is a renewable. i think nuclear is a renewable. h—eeeewee- i think nuclear is a renewable. h—eeeeweelhei i think nuclear deserves to be in i think nuclear deserves to be hwleereeew. — i think nuclear deserves to be hwleereeew. hr-e— i think nuclear deserves to be in category. it's such a clean in a category. it's such a clean werhee— in a category. it's such a clean method-production- in a category. it's such a clean method production we method of production that we ehewhe— method of production that we should-about- method of production that we should-about it- should think about it differently. - should think about it differently. but if we go around rhhwhhwe— differently. but if we go around rhhwhhwe re— differently. but if we go around thinking to ourselves, it won't eewe—wewrhei thinking to ourselves, it won't. come—months or come in the next six months or year— come in the next six months or weerlwe— come in the next six months or year,.we shouldn't- come in the next six months or year, we shouldn't it. we year, so we shouldn't do it. we whhh— year, so we shouldn't do it. we will-ourselves.- year, so we shouldn't do it. we will ourselves. we'll will deprive ourselves. we'll eehrhwe— will deprive ourselves. we'll heewe—er- deprive our children of an ewerew— deprive our children of an ewergw-wewh- deprive our children of an energy worth the mention. so energy mix worth the mention. so i energy mix worth the mention. so h-wew— energy mix worth the mention. so h-wew re— energy mix worth the mention. so h-wew re pher— energy mix worth the mention. so h-wew re her we— energy mix worth the mention. so i want to pick up what i just want to pick up on what rewh— i just want to pick up on what rewh wee— i just want to pick up on what rewh wee-h— i just want to pick up on what paul was i certainly paul was saying. i certainly ewee— paul was saying. i certainly ewee rher— paul was saying. i certainly agree that the— paul was saying. i certainly agree that the fact we've had to fire agree that the fact we've had to the we— agree that the fact we've had to the we eeeh— agree that the fact we've had to fire up coal powered fire power ererhewe— fire up coal powered fire power ererhewelehwe— fire up coal powered fire power stations-give-this- fire up coal powered fire power stations give this week stations to give power this week eewewerreree— stations to give power this week demonstrates—an. demonstrates that there's an heewe—wel demonstrates that there's an heewewe— re issue with how quickly we try to thee— issue with how quickly we try to hheee-eeeh — issue with how quickly we try to phase-coal. but— issue with how quickly we try to phase-coal. but on- issue with how quickly we try to phase coal. but on the other

phase out coal. but on the other hewe,— phase out coal. but on the other hewe, h— phase out coal. but on the other hewe, h hew-r— phase out coal. but on the other hand, i don't think— phase out coal. but on the other hand, i don't think britain's hwer— hand, i don't think britain's hwer heew— hand, i don't think britain's just been posturing the just been posturing on the international— just been posturing on the international-i- just been posturing on the international i think international stage. i think he— international stage. i think hewe-e- international stage. i think it's-we've led. international stage. i thinki it's-we've led the it's good that we've led the renewables_ it's good that we've led the renewables-i- it's good that we've led the renewables i also think renewables debate. i also think it's renewables debate. i also think hr-e-rher— renewables debate. i also think it's-thatlthis- renewables debate. i also think it's that this country it's good that in this country he— it's good that in this country hr-e—werl it's broadly speaking, not a hewheew— it's broadly speaking, not a partisan-issue. - it's broadly speaking, not a partisan issue. it's partisan political issue. it's an issue sometimes within hewee— an issue sometimes within hewhee ew— an issue sometimes within herrhee eh rhe— an issue sometimes within parties on the left. it's an heewe— parties on the left. it's an issue about— parties on the left. it's an issue about what did with issue about what they did with eeeh— issue about what they did with eeeh whee— issue about what they did with coal mines .the_ issue about what they did with coal mines the right. coal mines on the right. sometimes— coal mines on the right. sometimes issue coal mines on the right. - sometimes-issue with how coal mines on the right. - somyoutes-issue with how coal mines on the right. - somyou go-issue with how coal mines on the right. somyou go with issue with how coal mines on the right. somyou go with targets, with how coal mines on the right. somyou go with targets, but how fast you go with targets, but he— fast you go with targets, but he wer— fast you go with targets, but he her we — fast you go with targets, but it's not an issue— fast you go with targets, but it's not an issue between net eewhee. — it's not an issue between net zero parties. 0 tr: it's not an issue between net zero parties. cr? zero parties. political now hasn't it? yeah, but zero parties. cr? 0 07 yeah, but it's still zero parties. cr? a, 07 yeah, but it's still zero parties. cr? a a 07 yeah, but it's still zero parties. cr? a a divisive, but it's still zero parties. cr? a a divisive issue t's still zero parties. cr? a a divisive issue between not a a divisive issue between rhe— not a a divisive issue between rhe eehhrheeh— not a a divisive issue between the political parties. you wewhew-r— the political parties. you wouldn't say— the political parties. you wouldn't say tories are on one ehee— wouldn't say tories are on one eheelrher— wouldn't say tories are on one side lthat-labour's- wouldn't say tories are on one side that labour's on the side of that and labour's on the ewe.— side of that and labour's on the erher-wee— side of that and labour's on the other.-was-point. - side of that and labour's on the other. was point. �*vw�*rt; side of that and labour's on the. other.-was-point. we saw other. that was my point. we saw wher— other. that was my point. we saw her-recent— other. that was my point. we saw alex- recent years _ other. that was my point. we saw alex recent years before alex over recent years before the crisis struck. it the energy crisis struck. it wasn't uncommon see wasn't uncommon to see government ministers energy ministers outside coal ministers standing outside coal fired power stations, which had just been decommissioned . and just been decommissioned. and there's a photo opportunity saying, isn't it wonderful with closing this place down? you know, look out, we're now i'm all in favour of renewables, certainly, but we all know that renewables at the moment and i'm not saying you can test this point are unreliable. we know they're unreliable . so you've they're unreliable. so you've got to have that backup plan.

and i couldn't agree more that no one is seriously held to account . governments and account. governments and government ministers who were quick enough to take the plaudits in terms of those pr opportunities, closing down coal fired power stations. and they're now them up they're now starting them up again don't have that again because we don't have that energy and truth energy security. and the truth is have for too long in is that we have for too long in this country essentially allowed a 16 year old girl to she was at the greta, where's she gone, by the greta, where's she gone, by the way, to decide our energy policy? and that's not serious politics. that's giving in. i think she's still around. but look, i agree with you. - "

this and i'm sure you'll all reh— this and i'm sure you'll all rehh-hr— this and i'm sure you'll all tell-it won't- this and i'm sure you'll all tell it won't work. this and i'm sure you'll all- tell-it won't work. but tell me why it won't work. but i rhhhh— tell me why it won't work. but i rhhhh hw— tell me why it won't work. but i rhhhh hh rhhe— tell me why it won't work. but i think in this society, there are some issues that are too big for party politics, that are too big for a five year election cycle. so, example, i would put so, for example, i would put nhs, put things like nhs, i would put things like industrial energy industrial strategy, energy strategy, would create a strategy, and i would create a cross party, be kind of cross party, be some kind of committee or whatever. and you determine the long term strategy. absolutely disastrous. why? i strategy. absolutely disastrous. why? i think it's a great idea . why? i think it's a great idea. what's wrong it? because what's wrong with it? because it's anti—democratic. - it's anti—democratic. in the end— it's anti—democratic. in the ewe-ere— it's anti—democratic. in the ewe-ere wew- it's anti—democratic. in the end, are you openly end, you are you are openly eehhhwe— end, you are you are openly eehhhwe rer— end, you are you are openly calling for oligarchy. you calling for an oligarchy. you eeewhw— calling for an oligarchy. you are openly calling for be represented. - are openly calling for be represented. /rtr. t“ represented. you can take a representative from all of your different parties. yeah, but you the different parties. yeah, but you we hehwr— different parties. yeah, but you the point about— r: ”witt“. yeah, but you the point about democracy is her— the point about democracy is her heewe— the point about democracy is that people are— the point about democracy is that people are directly elected by that people are directly elected hw rhe— that people are directly elected hw rhe people- — that people are directly elected by the people. but the system wewre— by the people. but the system wewre hewee— by the people. but the system you're hence we've got short rerw — you're hence we've got short term thinking. _ you're hence we've got short term thinking. t you're hence we've got short term thinking. rt;“rt.rt ”hi; “ term thinking. hence we're in the that we're is the mess that we're in. that is the. that always the call of the. that is always the call of the. that is always the call of the tyrant as it's not working. i should run the place. it's wehh— i should run the place. it's wehh r— i should run the place. it's well, i think— i should run the place. it's well, i think i'd— i should run the place. it's well, i think i'd do- i should run the place. it's well, i think i'd do a better job, actually. we are. job, actually. there we are. the danger i i'm all the danger is, i mean, i'm all in the danger is, i mean, i'm all he hwew— the danger is, i mean, i'm all he rewew er— the danger is, i mean, i'm all in favour of cross—party work in where— in favour of cross—party work in where he— in favour of cross—party work in where it's sensible— in favour of cross—party work in where it's sensible do so, where it's sensible to do so, ewr— where it's sensible to do so, hwr-eeweer— where it's sensible to do so, but-danger is- where it's sensible to do so, but danger is that what but the danger is that what wewre— but the danger is that what you're advocating, an

you're advocating, michel, is an erewwew— you're advocating, michel, is an argument democracy per argument against democracy per se,—re— argument against democracy per ser_to save- argument against democracy per se,—to save her- argument against democracy per se,—to save heeh i se, correct? it's to say, look, heeewee— se, correct? it's to say, look, because there _ se, correct? it's to say, look, because there are- se, correct? it's to say, look, because there are differing wewe— because there are differing wewee-r hw- because there are differing views or in some cases views on this or in some cases where— views on this or in some cases where were— views on this or in some cases where there are— views on this or in some cases where there are the same views, get where there are the same views, eer erewhew— where there are the same views, get everybody working together and get everybody working together ewe-rehe— get everybody working together ewe-here hr— get everybody working together and-take it away- get everybody working together and take it away from and therefore take it away from hehhrhee. — and therefore take it away from eehhrhee. her-e— and therefore take it away from politics. let's depoliticise hwe.— politics. let's depoliticise he. he— politics. let's depoliticise this. the problem is these issues cannot— this. the problem is these issues cannot be depoliticised heeewee— issues cannot be depoliticised because people _ issues cannot be depoliticised because people out there in the eewwrw— because people out there in the eewwrw ee— because people out there in the country do have— because people out there in the country do have different views . hwe— country do have different views . we were— country do have different views . and you're saying,- country do have different views . and you're saying, i'm- country do have different views . and you're saying, i'm not saying there's different saying because there's different views. let's take i'm views. let's take what i'm saying system that we saying is the system that we have, termism you five have, the short termism you five year where only care year cycles where you only care really if we're honest about getting yourself a job five getting yourself a job in five years that is not working. years time, that is not working. the broken. are in the system is broken. we are in a your system has the a mess. your system has the reverse .that, _ a mess. your system has the reverse-that, which- your system has the reverse that, which means you reverse of that, which means you eee-hr— reverse of that, which means you can-if government- reverse of that, which means you can if government fails can never if government fails wea— can never if government fails wew—heew- can never if government fails wew—heeer hw- can never if government fails you,_least in thei you, you can, at least in the ewe— you, you can, at least in the ewe-rhe— you, you can, at least in the end-the bums- you, you can, at least in the end the bums out. the end throw the bums out. the ewerew — end throw the bums out. the ewerew wewre— end throw the bums out. the system you're pointing to. you wewer—wewwe- system you're pointing to. you- never_you've creamed never can because you've creamed off never can because you've creamed err-ehheerehw— never can because you've creamed err-ehheerehw er— never can because you've creamed off-oligarchy at the- never can because you've creamed off oligarchy at the top off this oligarchy at the top rher— off this oligarchy at the top rher whhh— off this oligarchy at the top that will never— off this oligarchy at the top that will never truly be accountable. - that will never truly be accountable. it's that will never truly be- accountable.-it's good accountable. and if it's good eweweh— accountable. and if it's good ewewehlewerw- accountable. and if it's good enough energy, why isn't why enough for energy, why isn't why wewhew-r— enough for energy, why isn't why wewhew-r hr— enough for energy, why isn't why wouldn't it then _ enough for energy, why isn't why wouldn't it then be— enough for energy, why isn't why wouldn't it then be good for heehrh— wouldn't it then be good for health education, health prisons, education, whhhrewe— health prisons, education, whhhrewe-r- health prisons, education, military?-i said. health prisons, education,- military?-i said health. military? i said. i said health. it would be everything. yeah. and a pincer movement. and caught in a pincer movement. yeah. you do all of your yeah. you could do all of your long term strategy this

long term strategy in this committee. my hands up committee. i'll put my hands up to lead it. i'll do a good job and the rest. all your day and all the rest. all your day to day stuff. that's what you can select. like maybe something like can select. like maybe something hwe-weer— can select. like maybe something hhhe-weer pher— can select. like maybe something like-year plan like- can select. like maybe something like-year plan like we- t“ t like maybe something like year plan like we saw like a ten year plan like we saw in like a ten year plan like we saw he he— like a ten year plan like we saw he he sewer— like a ten year plan like we saw in the soviet union. 503 in the soviet union. bop, bop, bop.— in the soviet union. bop, bop, hee, hee.— in the soviet union. bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. ba 20th.- in the soviet union. 503 ba 20th. hey, bop, bop, bop. ba 20th. hey, herew— bop, bop, bop. ba 20th. hey, hhereh r— bop, bop, bop. ba 20th. hey, listen, i know— bop, bop, bop. ba 20th. hey, listen, i know-at- ba 20th. hey, listen, i know at home. bop, bop, bop. ba 20th. hey,- listen, i know-at home. some listen, i know you at home. some of listen, i know you at home. some er wew— listen, i know you at home. some er wew wew— listen, i know you at home. some er wew wew her— listen, i know you at home. some of you you lot are— listen, i know you at home. some of you you lot are home. are more sensible— of you you lot are home. are more sensible than these two. hwe— more sensible than these two. andlreckon— more sensible than these two. andireckon that— more sensible than these two. and reckon that there'll be and i reckon that there'll be heewe— and i reckon that there'll be heewe-wer- and i reckon that there'll be people-that are. people out there that are eheerhwe— people out there that are eheerhwe er— people out there that are cheering at their screens going, yesr_ cheering at their screens going, wee—he- cheering at their screens going, wee—he rhe- yes, michelle, that is the- answer. _on that answer. some of you on that were— answer. some of you on that were rhhwe— answer. some of you on that water thing-out- answer. some of you on that water thing out as answer. some of you on that. water thing-out as well water thing pointing out as well we— water thing pointing out as well her-hewe— water thing pointing out as well that-have been— water thing pointing out as well that-have been no- water thing pointing out as well that have been no new that there have been no new reeeehwre— that there have been no new reservoirs built— that there have been no new reservoirs built for about 30 weee— reservoirs built for about 30 years. absolutely years. you're absolutely right. wewe— years. you're absolutely right. we've—population. we've increased our population. were— we've increased our water hewewe,— we've increased our water demand, haven't we've increased our water- demand,-haven't increased demand, but we haven't increased our demand, but we haven't increased ewr—he- demand, but we haven't increased ewr—he ww- our infrastructure. that is my wehh— our infrastructure. that is my wehh-eewee,- our infrastructure. that is my point.-course, if- our infrastructure. that is my point. course, if you're point. but of course, if you're weer—wew-hh- point. but of course, if you're near—you'll be. near portsmouth, you'll be ehewrhwe— near portsmouth, you'll be shouting-screen. near portsmouth, you'll be shouting screen telling shouting at your screen telling me shouting at your screen telling we we— shouting at your screen telling me that there— shouting at your screen telling me that there is— shouting at your screen telling me that there is indeed a new reeewehr— me that there is indeed a new reservoir-2029,- reservoir underway. 2029, i rhhwh— reservoir underway. 2029, i rhhwhlwhew— reservoir underway. 2029, i think-when that- reservoir underway. 2029, i think when that due to go think is when that is due to go hwe.— think is when that is due to go he whhh— think is when that is due to go he whhh hr— think is when that is due to go live. will it happen? 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listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. hello there. i'm michelle hewherw— hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with - hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you right through till dewberry with you right through rhhh — dewberry with you right through till seven. alex— dewberry with you right through till seven. alex dean, the hehhrheeh— till seven. alex dean, the political consultant, is eheweehee— political consultant, is alongside me, as is paul mbappe weee— alongside me, as is paul mbappe trade unionist— alongside me, as is paul mbappe trade unionist and— alongside me, as is paul mbappe trade unionist and broadcaster. so trade unionist and broadcaster. se ee— trade unionist and broadcaster. se ee wew— trade unionist and broadcaster. so so many people getting in reweh— so so many people getting in reweh ehewr— so so many people getting in touch about you— so so many people getting in touch about you today. you've got— touch about you today. you've her he— touch about you today. you've her we wewer— touch about you today. you've got the women talking, the women of got the women talking, the women er rhe— got the women talking, the women er rhe wh— got the women talking, the women of the uk talking— got the women talking, the women of the uk talking about your heee,— of the uk talking about your heee, ewe— of the uk talking about your heee, ewe r— of the uk talking about your face, and i think— of the uk talking about your face, and i think a few blokes as face, and i think a few blokes ee wehh— face, and i think a few blokes as well there— face, and i think a few blokes as well there appreciate ewehrhwe— as well there appreciate awaiting the _ as well there appreciate awaiting the return of the reeeh— awaiting the return of the reeheh-rreww- awaiting the return of the facial - many of - awaiting the return of the- facial - many of .viewers facial hair. many of my viewers rehhwe— facial hair. many of my viewers whwe-hr.— facial hair. many of my viewers taking-it. they're- taking credit for it. they're ewhwe— taking credit for it. they're ewhwe-rhew- taking credit for it. they're saying they you taking credit for it. they're. saying-they-you last saying that they told you last week— saying that they told you last week- better— saying that they told you last week-better and- saying that they told you last week better and that week it was better and that wewe— week it was better and that wew-we-re- week it was better and that you've to them. week it was better and that- you've-to them. well, you've listened to them. well, we-rrew— you've listened to them. well, we-rrew wehh— you've listened to them. well, we straw poll, didn't we? we took a straw poll, didn't we? and a clear majority said, bring it wife said, no, keep it back. my wife said, no, keep it back. my wife said, no, keep it off. always priority guys. rew— it off. always priority guys. rew-er— it off. always priority guys. you-at home,- it off. always priority guys. you-at home, that- 0 always priority guys. you at home, that is you guys at home, that is dedication. _ you guys at home, that is dedication. i— you guys at home, that is dedication. wry. you guys at home, that is. dedication. i-my life's dedication. i like. my life's going to be hell for the next few weeks. oh, well, my viewers hhhe— few weeks. oh, well, my viewers hhhe hr. — few weeks. oh, well, my viewers hhhe hr. hehh— few weeks. oh, well, my viewers like it. tell your— oh, well, my viewers like it. tell your missus that wehh— like it. tell your missus that rehh ewe— like it. tell your missus that john says michelle, how do you lot john says michelle, how do you her wew— john says michelle, how do you her wew-ewe— john says michelle, how do you lot know-and your- john says michelle, how do you lot know and your guests lot know you and your guests wew—wh- lot know you and your guestsi know—uk achieving know what effect uk achieving net know what effect uk achieving her-hewe— know what effect uk achieving net-have.global. net zero will have on global wewe— net zero will have on global world emissions? well i know were— world emissions? well i know there-minimal- world emissions? well i know there minimal actually.

world emissions? well i know thergo minimal actually. world emissions? well i know thergo on minimal actually. world emissions? well i know thergo on to minimal actually. world emissions? well i know thergo on to miniabout:tually. world emissions? well i know thergo on to miniabout china'. world emissions? well i know thergo on to miniabout china as you go on to talk about china as wehh— you go on to talk about china as wehh whheh— you go on to talk about china as well, which-course— you go on to talk about china as well, which course huge well, which of course huge ewhrrer. — well, which of course huge emitter. question to well, which of course huge- emitter. _question to you emitter. but my question to you in emitter. but my question to you hw-rheh— emitter. but my question to you hw-rheh wehh- emitter. but my question to you in-then, john, is- emitter. but my question to you in then, john, is one of in reverse then, john, is one of he— in reverse then, john, is one of we reeeewe— in reverse then, john, is one of the reasons that— in reverse then, john, is one of the reasons that china is so high— the reasons that china is so hheh-hr— the reasons that china is so high-it comes- the reasons that china is so- high-it comes-emissions high when it comes to emissions is high when it comes to emissions heee-— high when it comes to emissions heee- wew— high when it comes to emissions heee- weww heehhe- is because so many people outsource manufacturing of outsource the manufacturing of all outsource the manufacturing of ehh er— outsource the manufacturing of ehh er ew— outsource the manufacturing of ehh er rer— outsource the manufacturing of all of our tat to— outsource the manufacturing of all of our tat to china . outsource the manufacturing of all of our tat to china. i outsource the manufacturing of all of our tat to china . i mean, all of our tat to china. i mean, you— all of our tat to china. i mean, wew hw— all of our tat to china. i mean, wew rw ewe— all of our tat to china. i mean, wew rw ewe hwe— all of our tat to china. i mean, you try and find something here— you try and find something were her— you try and find something that's not made in china in this eewwhw— that's not made in china in this eewwrw. rew-e— that's not made in china in this country. you'd be— that's not made in china in this country. you'd be hard pressed. so country. you'd be hard pressed. se—ew- country. you'd be hard pressed. se—ew hw- country. you'd be hard pressed.| so_say in order so what would you say in order to so what would you say in order re-rhew— so what would you say in order re-rhew re— so what would you say in order to-them to reduce- so what would you say in order to them to reduce their to get them to reduce their ewheehewe— to get them to reduce their emissions? would you be happy to wewwerrwe— emissions? would you be happy to manufacture in—house and emissions? would you be happy to marafacture in—house and emissions? would you be happy to mara littlee in—house and emissions? would you be happy to mara little bit in—house and emissions? would you be happy to mara little bit more—house and emissions? would you be happy to mara little bit more forruse and emissions? would you be happy to mara little bit more for it?! and pay a little bit more for it? rew— pay a little bit more for it? rew reh— pay a little bit more for it? you tell me.— pay a little bit more for it? you tell me. let's speak, rheweh— you tell me. let's speak, though-wer- you tell me. let's speak,- though,-we,-wicks. though, shall we, about wicks. are though, shall we, about wicks. hre wew— though, shall we, about wicks. hre wew-hewe- though, shall we, about wicks. are you - diy? are - though, shall we, about wicks. are you diy? are the are you a keen diy? are the ewre— are you a keen diy? are the sun's out? you— are you a keen diy? are the sun's out? you might getting sun's out? you might be getting hwwehwee— sun's out? you might be getting wewee—hw- sun's out? you might be getting involved—in doingi involved this weekend in doing a bit involved this weekend in doing a hhr-rewwe— involved this weekend in doing a bit-found itself- involved this weekend in doing a bit-found itself in- bit of it. it's found itself in her— bit of it. it's found itself in her-reew— bit of it. it's found itself in her-reew .- bit of it. it's found itself in hot-today . the- bit of it. it's found itself in hot today . the chief hot water today. the chief eeererhwe— hot water today. the chief operating officer , he was operating officer, he was epeehhwe— operating officer, he was eeeehhwg er— operating officer, he was speaking at a- operating officer, he was speaking at a conference and i rhhwh— speaking at a conference and i think actually— speaking at a conference and i think actually i— speaking at a conference and i think actually i shall start by herrhwe— think actually i shall start by herrhwe wew— think actually i shall start by letting you listen for yourselves- letting you listen for yourselves what he had to say. i hew-r— yourselves what he had to say. i eew-r rhhwh— yourselves what he had to say. i don't think i'm— yourselves what he had to say. i don't think i'm ever— yourselves what he had to say. i don't think i'm ever going to ehewee— don't think i'm ever going to ehewee eewe— don't think i'm ever going to change some of— don't think i'm ever going to change some of the bigots out were— change some of the bigots out here whwe— change some of the bigots out there mind you,— change some of the bigots out there mind you, i'm never going to there mind you, i'm never going re whw— there mind you, i'm never going re whw rher— there mind you, i'm never going to win that argument with them. equallvr_ to win that argument with them. hewehhw. hr— to win that argument with them. equallvr hr they— to win that argument with them. equallvr hr rhew ee— to win that argument with them. equally, if they do come- to win that argument with them. equally, if they do come in- to win that argument with them. equally, if they do come in and buy tin paint and buy that tin and paint and behave then they're behave that way, then they're not in our stores not welcome in our stores anyway. voice you just anyway. so the voice you just hewe—

anyway. so the voice you just hewe-wee— anyway. so the voice you just heard-was fraser- rty so the voice you just heard was fraser longdon. heard there was fraser longdon. it's heard there was fraser longdon. hwe-eh.— heard there was fraser longdon. rte-eh. he- heard there was fraser longdon. it's-off. he was- heard there was fraser longdon. it's-off. he was at. it's all kicked off. he was at we— it's all kicked off. he was at this summit— it's all kicked off. he was at this summit hosted by pink news . i this summit hosted by pink news . r rewhwe— this summit hosted by pink news . r rewhwe wehh— this summit hosted by pink news . i rewind right to— this summit hosted by pink news . i rewind right to the beginning— . i rewind right to the beginning on this. alex wright rhrer— beginning on this. alex wright rhrer ewe— beginning on this. alex wright first and foremost, i think why are first and foremost, i think why eewpeww— first and foremost, i think why are company bosses at two trans wewe— are company bosses at two trans hhghre swwwhr— are company bosses at two trans rights summit is— are company bosses at two trans rights summit is i— are company bosses at two trans rights summit is i find it a hhrrhe— rights summit is i find it a new hhr— rights summit is i find it a little bit odd.— rights summit is i find it a little bit odd. why aren't they reewewe— little bit odd. why aren't they reewewe ew— little bit odd. why aren't they focusing on delivering their wewww— focusing on delivering their ereewer e— focusing on delivering their product ? that's my first point. product? that's my first point. my product? that's my first point. rw eeewe— product? that's my first point. my second point— product? that's my first point. my second point is this notion it my second point is this notion hr eeewe— my second point is this notion hr re— my second point is this notion it seems to be— my second point is this notion it seems to be almost an eeeehree— it seems to be almost an accepted notion that if you hehhewe— accepted notion that if you hehhewe hw— accepted notion that if you believe in reality of believe in the reality of hheheeheeh— believe in the reality of biological-a- believe in the reality of biological a man and biological sex, a man and a woman, male and female , somehow woman, male and female, somehow that woman, male and female, somehow rher werweh— woman, male and female, somehow rher werweh .— woman, male and female, somehow that normal , sensible fact which that normal, sensible fact which wewhe— that normal, sensible fact which wewhe hewe— that normal, sensible fact which would have once— that normal, sensible fact which would have once been universally eeeehree— would have once been universally eeeehree ewe— would have once been universally accepted and believing in that now some people— accepted and believing in that now some people seem to think her— now some people seem to think her wehee— now some people seem to think her wehee wew— now some people seem to think that makes you a— now some people seem to think that makes you a bigger what's going— that makes you a bigger what's going — that makes you a bigger what's going heew— that makes you a bigger what's going on. yeah, he's- that makes you a bigger what's going on. “411?" rti“ going on. yeah, he's entitled to say what he likes. of course , say what he likes. of course, but if he's doing so with his corporate badge on which as far as i can see, he was there. it wasn't him as that's why was wasn't him as that's why he was invited. wasn't him as that's why he was ianed. in wasn't him as that's why he was invited. in his capacity invited. it was in his capacity as from which they were as someone from which they were entitled a judgement entitled to make a judgement about the business for which he works. and maddest thing to about the business for which he woris and maddest thing to about the business for which he woris that maddest thing to about the business for which he woris that the maddest thing to about the business for which he woris that the people st thing to about the business for which he woris that the people atthing to about the business for which he woris that the people at the; to me is that the people at the forefront these sorts of forefront of these sorts of things overwhelmingly

things seem to overwhelmingly come facing come from consume facing businesses. that is, businesses where people can make a decision very quickly and express their views about what they've been told. if people who believe views about what they've been to|biological)eople who believe views about what they've been to|biological sex le who believe views about what they've been to|biological sex are /ho believe views about what they've been to|biological sex are indeed eve views about what they've been to|biological sex are indeed ,ve views about what they've been to|biological sex are indeed , in in biological sex are indeed, in his bigots, then i imagine his eyes, bigots, then i imagine they'll be less likely to shop in yeah, in his shop. yeah, and apparently, apparently the staff have been issued with a response to say, along the lines of i'm shortening it down. but the nuts and shortening it down. but the nuts ewe hehre— shortening it down. but the nuts ewe hehre er— shortening it down. but the nuts and bolts of it— shortening it down. but the nuts and bolts of it is— shortening it down. but the nuts and bolts of it is to— shortening it down. but the nuts and bolts of it is to say- “ “g 0 : but the nuts and bolts of it is to say that we— and bolts of it is to say that his comments— and bolts of it is to say that his comments were taken out of eewrerr. — his comments were taken out of eewrerr. wehh— his comments were taken out of context. well they— his comments were taken out of context. well they weren't at alb— context. well they weren't at all, obviously. _ context. well they weren't at all, obviously. that's why i hwer— all, obviously. that's why i we erewee— all, obviously. that's why i just started play them in just started to play them in rwhh — just started to play them in rwhh lwew— just started to play them in full..you can— just started to play them in full..you can all- just started to play them in full. you can all make your full. so you can all make your hweeewew— full. so you can all make your own judgement on that. paul veeh— own judgement on that. paul veeh rhew— own judgement on that. paul yeah, they clearly taken yeah, they clearly weren't taken out yeah, they clearly weren't taken ewr—rher-e- yeah, they clearly weren't taken out—that's the. out of context, but that's the eheeewe— out of context, but that's the ereweere 90— out of context, but that's the standard go to— out of context, but that's the standard go to defence, isn't it, standard go to defence, isn't hh-wew-re— standard go to defence, isn't| it,-you're,-you're it, when you're, when you're rwhwe—eeweeel it, when you're, when you'rei rwhwe—eeweee. it, when you're, when you're. rwhwe—eeweee. r trying to limit the damage. i mean i've kind— trying to limit the damage. i mean i've kind of— trying to limit the damage. i mean i've kind of come- trying to limit the damage. i mean i've kind of come to the view a bit reluctantly that i think actually probably the only way seriously of way to seriously address some of this stuff is by consumer boycotts . it's not something i'm boycotts. it's not something i'm instinctively in favour of, but as a tactic, i think it may well work and you know, i support the boycott that people have called

for. and we saw a similar thing in america, didn't we, with bud light, where mulvaney light, where dylan mulvaney yeah. and the boycott clearly had an effect there. and where you have an institution that is kind of peddling this hyper progressive lviv ideology , which progressive lviv ideology, which is only really shared as we know, by a minority of the population and large parts of this country, find it all a bit weird and a bit unfathomable. and particularly when they go to the extent that this guy did and essentially said , you know, if essentially said, you know, if you hold those gender critical views, you're all bigots, you're not welcome in our stores, then i mean, it seems to me natural to say, okay, well, we're not going to come in your store if that's the case. but, you that's the case. but but, you know, the truth is, i think that woke capitalism is the worst kind in many respects because when their profits are threatened, then all of a sudden they start backtracking. and it's why we see wicks put out the statement tonight . and i the statement tonight. and i remember mesa ozil , the turkish remember mesa ozil, the turkish footballer, played for arsenal

and a few years ago he issued a statement where he was critical of china for its treatment of the uighur muslims. now, of course, arsenal had huge business interests in china , and business interests in china, and instead of doing the progressive thing on that occasion, they shut it down. others like to do and defending him, they said they issued a statement saying he's speaking in a personal capacity. this is nothing to do with us. so when their profits are threatened, suddenly they revert might call revert to what you might call mainstream opinion. it's not just this mainstream opinion. it's not he he rehhe— mainstream opinion. it's not just this topic, is— mainstream opinion. it's not just this topic, is it- mainstream opinion. it's not just this topic, is it ?- mainstream opinion. it's not just this topic, is it ? i- “ ’rtr“ it's not just this topic, is it? i mean, we— just this topic, is it? i mean, he hee— just this topic, is it? i mean, this has been— just this topic, is it? i mean, this has been around for a while hwe— this has been around for a while we we— this has been around for a while now. and we saw— this has been around for a while now. and we saw it.— this has been around for a while now. and we saw it. we saw it wewwe— now. and we saw it. we saw it around brexit_ now. and we saw it. we saw it around brexit where businesses ewhe— around brexit where businesses ewhwg rew— around brexit where businesses were saying very things were saying very frank things ehewr— were saying very frank things ehewr rhehr— were saying very frank things about their people in their role ewe— about their people in their role ewe eeeeehw— about their people in their role ewe eeeeehw ee— about their people in their role and capacity as a— about their people in their role and capacity as a business hereeh— and capacity as a business hereew were— and capacity as a business person. were saying things with whheh— person. were saying things with whheh hehr— person. were saying things with which half of— person. were saying things with which half of country which half of the country prerewwehw— which half of the country profoundly and which half of the country- profoundly-and profoundly profoundly agreed and profoundly eheeweee— profoundly agreed and profoundly disagreed position disagreed with their position on. disagreed with their position eh-hehhewee- disagreed with their position on. happened with me over on. and it happened with me over a on. and it happened with me over e-rher— on. and it happened with me over a-thatlwouldn't- on. and it happened with me over a-thatlwouldn't say- a brand that i wouldn't say whheh— a brand that i wouldn't say whhh-werw— a brand that i wouldn't say which berry brothers which was berry brothers vhwrwere— which was berry brothers vintners and— which was berry brothers vintners and then you see used his vintners and then you see used hhe weehe— vintners and then you see used his media round— vintners and then you see used his media round when he was eeeehwree— his media round when he was eeeehwree re— his media round when he was appointed to slag off brexit. hwe— appointed to slag off brexit. awe eeewe— appointed to slag off brexit. and everyone who voted for it

ewe— and everyone who voted for it end eehe— and everyone who voted for it and said how— and everyone who voted for it and said how terrible it was. wehh— and said how terrible it was. wehh r— and said how terrible it was. wehh r eer— and said how terrible it was. wehh r eer ww— and said how terrible it was. well, i got my next email from werw— well, i got my next email from herw hrerhere— well, i got my next email from berry brothers asked me to buy some wine and— berry brothers asked me to buy some wine and i— berry brothers asked me to buy some wine and i thought, sod it, i a some wine and i thought, sod it, r—e hwwer-e— some wine and i thought, sod it, i-a buyer's market.- iwon't. it's a buyer's market. t hey— iwon't. it's a buyer's market. hhew wew-r— iwon't. it's a buyer's market. they won't take— i won't. it's a buyer's market. they won't take my business ehrehehh— they won't take my business errehehr. — they won't take my business errehehr. r— they won't take my business straight. i was— they won't take my business straight. i was just- they won't take my business straight. i was just about to say, how much he say, have you seen how much he drinks? i'm surprised they're still trading quite frankly, i deserve point was deserve that. but my point was i hhew-r— deserve that. but my point was i hhew-r were— deserve that. but my point was i hhew-r were e— deserve that. but my point was i didn't make a-thing- deserve that. but my point was i didn't make a-thing of- : but my point was i didn't make a thing of it. didn't make a big thing of it. hwe— didn't make a big thing of it. hwe-r— didn't make a big thing of it. hwe-r ew— didn't make a big thing of it. and-i am now- didn't make a big thing of it. and-i am now a- didn't make a big thing of it. and i am now a years later, and here i am now a years later, rehhhwe— and here i am now a years later, hewee-hr.— and here i am now a years later, rehhhwe-hr. r— and here i am now a years later, talking-it. i didn't- and here i am now a years later, talking it. i didn't make talking about it. i didn't make a talking about it. i didn't make e big— talking about it. i didn't make e big rhhwe— talking about it. i didn't make e big rhhwe er— talking about it. i didn't make a big thing of it— talking about it. i didn't make a big thing of it at the time. i weeer— a big thing of it at the time. i wasn't calling— a big thing of it at the time. i wasn't calling for— a big thing of it at the time. i wasn't calling for a boycott hew — wasn't calling for a boycott hew -hwr— wasn't calling for a boycott hew-wwr r- wasn't calling for a boycott from-but i was- wasn't calling for a boycott from but i was entitled from others, but i was entitled to from others, but i was entitled re-eww— from others, but i was entitled to-own personal- to make my own personal heewew— to make my own personal decision. and— to make my own personal decision. and did, of course. decision. and i did, of course. hhe— decision. and i did, of course. hwe-wewe— decision. and i did, of course. and _we've-really- decision. and i did, of course. and _we've-really is. and what we've got really is a never ending treadmill, as i've said, where you've got these companies, these corporations, institutions, companies, these corporations, insti are )ns, companies, these corporations, insti are constantly to do who are constantly looking to do the constantly the next thing, constantly looking. to flaunt looking. that's right. to flaunt their credentials their woke credentials and to outdo else. and that's outdo everybody else. and that's why we're seeing more and more of just say, as of this. but can i just say, as a in by the way, i find a woman in by the way, i find some of this conversation not not your tos conversation, but this conversation this whole kind of conversation about man become a about kind of man become a woman. and i actually find it werw— woman. and i actually find it pretty offensive,— “ and i actually find it pretty offensive, actually, heeewee— pretty offensive, actually, because - kind i pretty offensive, actually,i because - kind of because we've just kind of sleepwalked _ because we've just kind of sleepwalked this situation sleepwalked into this situation where—eew- sleepwalked into this situation

where—can stick where a fella, a man can stick a weee— where a fella, a man can stick a wee ew— where a fella, a man can stick a dress on, say, oh,— where a fella, a man can stick a dress on, say, oh, today i'm in ewh— dress on, say, oh, today i'm in ehrh-ewe— dress on, say, oh, today i'm in ehrh-ewe 90— dress on, say, oh, today i'm in girl-and go into- dress on, say, oh, today i'm in girl and go into female girl mode and go into female rehhere— girl mode and go into female rehhere-ehh— girl mode and go into female toilets-all of— girl mode and go into female toilets-all of this- girl mode and go into female toilets all of this kind of toilets and all of this kind of rhhwe. — toilets and all of this kind of thing. _become- toilets and all of this kind of thing. _become a- toilets and all of this kind of thing. become a the thing. and it's become a the le— thing. and it's become a the leier— thing. and it's become a the norm . a .of places. - thing. and it's become a the norm a of places. be if norm in a lot of places. be if you— norm in a lot of places. be if wew ehehhewee— norm in a lot of places. be if you challenge that, if you have the you challenge that, if you have we ewheehw— you challenge that, if you have the audacity to— you challenge that, if you have the audacity to stand up and say,— the audacity to stand up and save we— the audacity to stand up and save we-rw- the audacity to stand up and say, no,-i'm not- say, no, actually i'm not comfortable— say, no, actually i'm not comfortable with and comfortable with that. and by the comfortable with that. and by rhe-wer— comfortable with that. and by the - not true. - comfortable with that. and by the not true. you're the way, it's not true. you're wer— the way, it's not true. you're her-wewwe- the way, it's not true. you're her-wewe e- the way, it's not true. you're not-you're a fellaj the way, it's not true. you're. not-you're a fella in the way, it's not true. you're- not-you're a fella in a not a woman. you're a fella in a ereee — not a woman. you're a fella in a ereee hhewh— not a woman. you're a fella in a dress. thank you— not a woman. you're a fella in a dress. thank you much. you dress. thank you very much. you whhh— dress. thank you very much. you will-lambasted— dress. thank you very much. you will-lambasted and- dress. thank you very much. you will lambasted and they will get lambasted and they wewhew-r— will get lambasted and they wouldn't-away- will get lambasted and they wouldn't away doing it wouldn't get away with doing it for wouldn't get away with doing it her eww— wouldn't get away with doing it her eww erher— wouldn't get away with doing it for any other biological characteristic- for any other biological characteristic if they said if hhew— characteristic if they said if. hhew—when they said i'm now black, when hhew— they said i'm now black, when| hhew—wewe they were white, people would eewewwe — they were white, people would condemn _they- they were white, people would condemn they said, you condemn them if they said, you hhew,— condemn them if they said, you hhew, e— condemn them if they said, you hhew, elweer— condemn them if they said, you know alvear-guv- condemn them if they said, you know, a year guy said, know, a 25 year old guy said, eerwehhw— know, a 25 year old guy said, eerwehhwlhh— know, a 25 year old guy said, eerwehhwlhh — know, a 25 year old guy said, actually,-11. i'm- know, a 25 year old guy said, actually, 11. grtr “g actually, i'm 11. i'm going to go into this primary school. people no, that's people would say, no, that's what i say. i always push back on what i say. i always push back we rhhe. — what i say. i always push back we rhhe. hwe— what i say. i always push back on this. i've never— what i say. i always push back on this. i've never understood why women are why is that woman women are supposed to put up with stuff that has put up that nobody else has to put up with. well, not on my watch. we eew-r.— with. well, not on my watch. we eew-h—rhere- with. well, not on my watch. we don't._there mighti don't. and i'm sure there might be don't. and i'm sure there might he-wew— don't. and i'm sure there might he-wew er— don't. and i'm sure there might he-wew er hewe- don't. and i'm sure there might be you at home that be some of you at home that heewee— be some of you at home that here rher— be some of you at home that disagree that actually sit there ewe— disagree that actually sit there ewe-wew— disagree that actually sit there ewe-wew ew- disagree that actually sit there and you can change and say, yes, you can change wewr— and say, yes, you can change wewr-ewe— and say, yes, you can changei wewr-ewe-ewe and say, yes, you can change- your-and-and all your gender and your sex and all the your gender and your sex and all rhe-er— your gender and your sex and all rhe-er hr.— your gender and your sex and all the-of it. different- the rest of it. different ewhehewe— the rest of it. different opinions that. the rest of it. different opinions-that. me opinions and all that. let me hhew— opinions and all that. let me know-thoughts.- know your thoughts. gb views at gb know your thoughts. gb views at we —wew— know your thoughts. gb views at we —wew her- know your thoughts. gb views at ere—wew her we- know your thoughts. gb views at. gb _now let me .you gb news .com. now let me ask you a gb news .com. now let me ask you e wew— gb news .com. now let me ask you a very straightforward question, erewhew. — a very straightforward question, erewhew. he— a very straightforward question, everybody. do you think serial everybody. do you think a serial

hhhher—eerrhwei killer has any business getting werrhee— killer has any business getting wewee—ee- killer has any business getting| married—do-do married in prison? i do not. do you— married in prison? i do not. do wew ewee— married in prison? i do not. do you agree disagree

on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . hello britain is watching. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. alongside me, with you till 7:00. alongside wher— with you till 7:00. alongside me, alex dean— with you till 7:00. alongside me, alex dean and- 0 t. r�* 00 alongside me, alex dean and paul mbappe wewr— me, alex dean and paul mbappe wewr hhew— me, alex dean and paul mbappe your friday favourites. what a weer— your friday favourites. what a weer rer— your friday favourites. what a weer her we— your friday favourites. what a treat for us all— your friday favourites. what a treat for us all on— your friday favourites. what a treat for us all on this nice ewwww— treat for us all on this nice ewwww rrhew. — treat for us all on this nice sunny friday. now let's move on to sunny friday. now let's move on he e— sunny friday. now let's move on he e erew— sunny friday. now let's move on he e erew rher-e— sunny friday. now let's move on to a story that's really annoyed me to a story that's really annoyed we reew— to a story that's really annoyed we reew ewe— to a story that's really annoyed we reew ewe r— to a story that's really annoyed me today and i suspect it might hewe— me today and i suspect it might hewe ewwewee— me today and i suspect it might have annoyed some of you as wehh— have annoyed some of you as wehh hhe— have annoyed some of you as well. the serial— have annoyed some of you as well. the serial killer, levi hehhrhehe— well. the serial killer, levi bellfield will— well. the serial killer, levi bellfield will all be, won't we? rewhhher— bellfield will all be, won't we? familiar with— bellfield will all be, won't we? familiar with that— bellfield will all be, won't we? familiar with that absolute crap reerwree— familiar with that absolute crap reerwree or— familiar with that absolute crap feature? of course.— familiar with that absolute crap feature? of course. the serial wher— feature? of course. the serial the. her— feature? of course. the serial killer, not least— feature? of course. the serial killer, not least ,— feature? of course. the serial killer, not least , he was the killer, not least, he was the guy— killer, not least, he was the gww rher— killer, not least, he was the guy that killed— killer, not least, he was the guy that killed milly dowler. he is guy that killed milly dowler. he he hw— guy that killed milly dowler. he he he wheeh— guy that killed milly dowler. he he he erheew hw— guy that killed milly dowler. he is in prison in good, quite hewhhw— is in prison in good, quite frankly. hopefully never to see the frankly. hopefully never to see we hhew— frankly. hopefully never to see we hhehr er— frankly. hopefully never to see the light of day— frankly. hopefully never to see the light of day again . frankly. hopefully never to see the light of day again. but frankly. hopefully never to see the light of day again . but get the light of day again. but get rhhe— the light of day again. but get rhhe he-e— the light of day again. but get rhhe, he-e going— the light of day again. but get this, he's going to be allowed to this, he's going to be allowed re eer— this, he's going to be allowed to get married.— this, he's going to be allowed to get married. the thought of rhhe— to get married. the thought of this absolutely— to get married. the thought of this absolutely sickens me, not heeer— this absolutely sickens me, not least because— this absolutely sickens me, not least because there are multiple rher— least because there are multiple women that will— least because there are multiple women that will never get that eeeehwwhw— women that will never get that ehherrwwhrw. ewr— women that will never get that opportunity. but yet the guy we— opportunity. but yet the guy that snubbed— opportunity. but yet the guy that snubbed out their lives and it's that snubbed out their lives and he ewheeeee— that snubbed out their lives and he eweeeeee re— that snubbed out their lives and it's supposed to be experiencing

the it's supposed to be experiencing rhe hehehr— it's supposed to be experiencing rhe hehehr er— it's supposed to be experiencing the height of punishment, he whhh— the height of punishment, he whhh eer— the height of punishment, he whhh her her— the height of punishment, he will get that opportunity. joining— will get that opportunity. joining we— will get that opportunity. joining me now to discuss this, cehhw— joining me now to discuss this, cehhw ewheh— joining me now to discuss this, colin sutton, former met colin sutton, the former met hehhee— colin sutton, the former met police detective.— colin sutton, the former met police detective. he in lots of wwe— police detective. he in lots of waysr wew— police detective. he in lots of waysr wew ee— police detective. he in lots of ways, you are the— police detective. he in lots of ways, you are the guy that we ehewhe — ways, you are the guy that we ehewhe ew— ways, you are the guy that we should say thank— ways, you are the guy that we should say thank you to because in should say thank you to because he here— should say thank you to because he here er— should say thank you to because he here er wwe— should say thank you to because in lots of ways you— should say thank you to because in lots of ways you are indeed reeeewehhhe— in lots of ways you are indeed responsible for— in lots of ways you are indeed responsible for taking levi hehhrhehe— responsible for taking levi bellfield off— responsible for taking levi bellfield off the streets . so bellfield off the streets. so rhewh— bellfield off the streets. so rhewh wew. — bellfield off the streets. so thank you. actually, on behalf of thank you. actually, on behalf er eh— thank you. actually, on behalf of all women,— thank you. actually, on behalf of all women, i— thank you. actually, on behalf of all women, i looked at your hwhrrer— of all women, i looked at your hwhrrer reew— of all women, i looked at your twitter today and— of all women, i looked at your twitter today and you said the rehhewhwe. — twitter today and you said the following. .rt t j“ twitter today and you said the following. .rt t “7’ following. michelle, really? but there we go. i'll take the credit, in glory. i credit, bask in the glory. i would looked at your twitter would i looked at your twitter eerhher— would i looked at your twitter eerhher ew— would i looked at your twitter earlier on today,— would i looked at your twitter earlier on today, colin and you eehe— earlier on today, colin and you eehe ehewr— earlier on today, colin and you said about levi.— earlier on today, colin and you said about levi. you said when he wee— said about levi. you said when he ew— said about levi. you said when he was on remand.— said about levi. you said when he was on remand. i listened to hew — he was on remand. i listened to levi bellfield— he was on remand. i listened to levi bellfield order his teenage girlfriend— levi bellfield order his teenage ehrhrrhewe re— levi bellfield order his teenage girlfriend to hold— levi bellfield order his teenage girlfriend to hold her phone her— girlfriend to hold her phone over her flushing toilets so her— over her flushing toilets so her he— over her flushing toilets so that he could— over her flushing toilets so that he could recognise the wehee— that he could recognise the ewe— that he could recognise the noise and thus— that he could recognise the noise and thus believed that she was noise and thus believed that she weelhewe— noise and thus believed that she was-home rather— noise and thus believed that she was home rather out with was at home rather than out with ewerher— was at home rather than out with ewerher-ehe— was at home rather than out with another she complied. another man. and she complied. rew— another man. and she complied. rew-e— another man. and she complied. rew-e rreweerw- another man. and she complied. you-a travesty of- you say it's a travesty of common sense,- you say it's a travesty of common sense, basically, and hwerhee— common sense, basically, and hwerhee rher— common sense, basically, and justice that he— common sense, basically, and justice that he would be allowed to justice that he would be allowed re werw— justice that he would be allowed re werw ewe— justice that he would be allowed to marry and perhaps exert this center— to marry and perhaps exert this eewrreh ee— to marry and perhaps exert this control over another woman. do wew— control over another woman. do wew rhhwh— control over another woman. do wew rhhwh he-e— control over another woman. do you think he's still— control over another woman. do you think he's still that kind of character?— you think he's still that kind of character? do— you think he's still that kind of character? do you think he hee— of character? do you think he hee eheweeee— of character? do you think he has changed? is— of character? do you think he has changed? is he still that manipulative— has changed? is he still that manipulative of—

has changed? is he still that manipulative of murdering eewwhee— manipulative of murdering eewwhee e— manipulative of murdering scumbag ? sorry to be so blunt. scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. no,— scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. we. r— scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. we. r rhhhh— scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. no, i think that's— scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. no, i think that's a— scumbag? sorry to be so blunt. no, i think that's a fair- no, i think that's a fair assessment to be honest. and yes, i don't think he's changed. no, he's he's shown over the last whatever it is now, getting on for 20 years, 19 years now. he's been in prison on remand and then convicted . and he has and then convicted. and he has shown an ability to manipulate, to coerce , to control from to coerce, to control from behind bars. and you know, the important thing is here, yes, he's in prison for life, for a whole life tariff . and it's whole life tariff. and it's a punishment for what he's done . punishment for what he's done. but you must appreciate that there's also a protection aspect of that. there are dozens , of that. there are dozens, scores of women who have been protected from this man by the fact that he has been in prison for the last 19 years. and if you allow him to do things like this, i just know he cannot physically harm this woman , even physically harm this woman, even if he marries her. but he will try to exert that kind of control and harm her mentally as

he has mentally harmed lots of other women over his life before he went in prison. absolutely. so he went in prison. absolutely. se hew— he went in prison. absolutely. se hew heee— he went in prison. absolutely. so how does this— he went in prison. absolutely. so how does this work- “ “ absolutely. so how does this work then? so can anyone basically strike up a i can anyone basically strike up a r weeh— can anyone basically strike up a r r-w— can anyone basically strike up a r r-w rwhwe— can anyone basically strike up a i mean, i'm trying to fathom, rhrer— i mean, i'm trying to fathom, the ewe— i mean, i'm trying to fathom, first and foremost, who on earth wewhe— first and foremost, who on earth wewhe eew— first and foremost, who on earth would even want— first and foremost, who on earth would even want to— first and foremost, who on earth would even want to engage in eewee— would even want to engage in eewreer whhh— would even want to engage in contact with this— would even want to engage in contact with this creature ? but contact with this creature? but notwithstanding _ contact with this creature? but notwithstanding that, clearly heewe— notwithstanding that, clearly some people do. how do you even were— some people do. how do you even wehe eewee— some people do. how do you even make contact with— some people do. how do you even make contact with the serial hhhher— make contact with the serial hhhher hhe— make contact with the serial killer like levi— make contact with the serial killer like levi to start whehrhwe— killer like levi to start visiting him - killer like levi to start visiting him and, i don't know, reh— visiting him and, i don't know, rehh hw— visiting him and, i don't know, rehh hw hewe— visiting him and, i don't know, fall in love or— visiting him and, i don't know, fall in love or whatever it is her— fall in love or whatever it is her hhew-we— fall in love or whatever it is that they've done ? whit. g that they've done? well, guess it's that they've done? well, guess we r— that they've done? well, guess it's i mean, i believe the story is that she was visiting another another famous prisoner. and when he died, he kind of had introduced him or somehow sort of told her about levi . and she of told her about levi. and she she started writing letters and it took off from there. that's that's my understanding of it. uh but, you know, it's we get to the stage now where nobody you talked about twitter there. you know what the cesspool of twitter like. normally, if i twitter is like. normally, if i tweet something you it tweet something, you know, it will or whatever. will be 6040 or whatever. there'll be some people

criticise me. nobody seems to disagree that this is a really, really bad idea to. and indeed, you know, dominic raab before he was he ousted when he was was he was ousted when he was justice secretary some months ago when first raised his ago when this first raised his head, need head, said, yes, we need to change law. well, what is change the law. well, what is time for now is for this government that still a 60 government that still has a 60 or majority, not or something majority, not to be scared it, change the scared of using it, change the law. it's a one line bill it's a one line bill notwithstanding the human rights act notwithstanding the human rights her ewe— notwithstanding the human rights we end he— notwithstanding the human rights act and the european convention on act and the european convention eh hwwew— act and the european convention on human rights— act and the european convention on human rights persons serving life sentences— on human rights persons serving life sentences are— on human rights persons serving life sentences are forbidden to werw. — life sentences are forbidden to werw. hher-e— life sentences are forbidden to marry. that's all— life sentences are forbidden to marry. that's all it- life sentences are forbidden to marry. l marry. that's all it needs. hopefully, hopefully. common sense will prevail— hopefully, hopefully. common sense will prevail on- common sense will prevail on this. one rhweh— sense will prevail on this. one final question,— sense will prevail on this. one final question, and i don't want to final question, and i don't want re ree— final question, and i don't want he he he— final question, and i don't want to too be graphic— final question, and i don't want to too be graphic because it is heeew— to too be graphic because it is hweeee ree— to too be graphic because it is indeed tea time.— to too be graphic because it is indeed tea time. many of my viewers, including myself, don't reehhw— viewers, including myself, don't reehhw hhew— viewers, including myself, don't really know-works. - viewers, including myself, don't really know works. but really know how this works. but eweewerr-hee— really know how this works. but once married, which once you get married, which wehh— once you get married, which we'll-conclude- we'll all conclude is ridiculous,- we'll all conclude is ridiculous, there's not any errewwwhw— ridiculous, there's not any opportunity for— ridiculous, there's not any opportunity for this person to hhe— opportunity for this person to hhwe er— opportunity for this person to kind of consummate that marriage or kind of consummate that marriage er ewwrhhwe— kind of consummate that marriage er ewwrhhwe hhe— kind of consummate that marriage or anything like that. surely ur,— or anything like that. surely uh r— or anything like that. surely uh r eew-r— or anything like that. surely uh, i don't believe- or anything like that. surely uh, i don't believe so.- or anything like that. surely uh, i don't believe so. but then , i don't know. perhaps there's a right to that in the in the human rights legislation . and

human rights legislation. and maybe, maybe that will be the next court case that we pay £30,000 don't know. uh, £30,000 for. i don't know. uh, we live in strange times,- 17:50 000 r:rtr“ . uh, we live in strange times, don't wee— we live in strange times, don't wee cehheew— we live in strange times, don't we? colleen sutton , on behalf of we? colleen sutton, on behalf of all we? colleen sutton, on behalf of ehh wewew— we? colleen sutton, on behalf of all women, quite— we? colleen sutton, on behalf of all women, quite frankly , thank all women, quite frankly, thank you all women, quite frankly, thank wew rer— all women, quite frankly, thank wew rer wewr— all women, quite frankly, thank you for your work— all women, quite frankly, thank you for your work for and your hwe— you for your work for and your rhwe rewhehr— you for your work for and your rhwe rewhehr .— you for your work for and your time tonight . alex in time tonight. alex in disgusting,- time tonight. alex in disgusting, quite frankly. and he-e— disgusting, quite frankly. and we ehhwehwe— disgusting, quite frankly. and he's alluding there to the £50,000,— he's alluding there to the £50,000, which is the legal aid wewew— £50,000, which is the legal aid wewew rher— £50,000, which is the legal aid wewew her we— £50,000, which is the legal aid money that we all— £50,000, which is the legal aid money that we all of us have rehe— money that we all of us have paid re— money that we all of us have paid re herr— money that we all of us have paid to help facilitate some of he. — paid to help facilitate some of he. hew— paid to help facilitate some of this. you know,— paid to help facilitate some of this. you know, we- paid to help facilitate some of this. /rtr. r: g this. you know, we disagree about this already. we could spend the segment talking about how a guy he is and people how bad a guy he is and people might better about but might feel better about it, but i useful it is. i don't know how useful it is. he's a very bad person. he's clearly a very bad person. but rule law is there to but the rule of law is there to protect we're going protect all of us. we're going to victims act , protect all of us. we're going to victims act, as to have a new victims act, as they call it, something else, but a new victims going but a new victims act going through which will through parliament, which will prevent life prevent people with whole life tariffs married. tariffs from getting married. and after that, this won't happen. he's probably to happen. he's probably going to be the last person for whom this occurs. that's what occurs. and if that's what you want quite right you pass want quite right too, you pass the law through parliament. parliament for it, it parliament votes for it, it becomes an act, and then it appues becomes an act, and then it applies everybody. currently applies to everybody. currently there's nothing against the law

about getting married and it about him getting married and it was attempts to stop him was their attempts to stop him getting despite the fact getting married despite the fact that was lawful. that prompts that it was lawful. that prompts his legal action right. so if they just if they just left it, they just if they just left it, the 30 k cost that's exercised , the 30 k cost that's exercised, you wouldn't have come about in the place. the point is the first place. the point is that cases arise that catch that when cases arise that catch the public attention and make people wrong people think something is wrong about it's never an about things, it's never an attractive it's attractive individual. it's never something somebody everybody . it's always everybody likes. it's always going be case that going to be a hard case that makes bad. in the case of makes it bad. law in the case of rushing to judgement, things like the dangerous dogs when like the dangerous dogs act when you legislation you have knee jerk legislation because hate somebody, in because you hate somebody, in the casting the end, you're probably casting a law badly. but look, if you do want the law to be the case, put it parliament. it's it through parliament. it's not down a minister he down to a minister to say he can't. down to a prison can't. it's not down to a prison governor to say he can't. well, hopefully governor to say he can't. well, hererwhhw rhe— t t“ 0 well, hopefully the government are ewhe— hopefully the government are ewhwe—hw- hopefully the government are saying in progress hopefully the government are sayi hopefully in progress hopefully the government are sayi hopefully it in progress hopefully the government are sayi hopefully it will progress hopefully the government are sayi hopefully it will come ass hopefully the government are sayi hopefully it will come to and hopefully it will come to hwhhew— and hopefully it will come to fruition._stand| and hopefully it will come to. fruition._stand on fruition. where do you stand on it, fruition. where do you stand on rr-r— fruition. where do you stand on hh-r wewhe— fruition. where do you stand on it,-i would _the. it, paul? i would support the hew— it, paul? i would support the hwwweeh— r- it, paul? i would support the. law—mean, i accept law change. i mean, i accept everything that alex says in terms of what the law says at the moment and the fact that, you know, you simply can't

circumvent the law just because this happens to be a evil this happens to be a pretty evil individual . this happens to be a pretty evil individual. on the broader point, i would say that the whole right to marry in my view, is a right that's synonymous with being a free person, which is a right synonymous with being on the outside of a prison, not on the outside of a prison, not on the outside of a prison, not on the inside of a prison. and |, on the inside of a prison. and i, i can't really see any circumstances other than perhaps where a prisoner is suffering a terminal illness for example. why might on compassion grounds decide that somebody should be allowed to get married before they die.7 i think there's an arguable case in those circumstances. not in my eyes, they're not. i wouldn't have a shred— they're not. i wouldn't have a shred of— they're not. i wouldn't have a shred of compassion- shred of compassion for a murderer, especially mass murderer, especially a mass murderer. .not- murderer, especially a mass murderer. .not just- murderer, especially a mass. murderer. .not just talking murderer. i'm not just talking about here, by the about murderers here, by the way. talking about anybody way. i'm talking about anybody incarcerated. but short of that , i struggle see any , i struggle to see any circumstances in which an individual inside a prison should be entitled to marry. well, not least actually, because you have to think of what families are going what the families are going through. the families through. you know, the families of murdered

of those victims who he murdered in blood, seeing him having of those victims who he murdered in rightood, seeing him having of those victims who he murdered in right to i, seeing him having of those victims who he murdered in right to marry1g him having of those victims who he murdered in right to marry and m having of those victims who he murdered in right to marry and hang ving of those victims who he murdered in right to marry and hang on] that right to marry and hang on a minute to take pleasure from that in the way he undoubtedly will. i think it's an appalling scenario for those families to be in beneath what what you've just said. you've gone all the way.— just said. you've gone all the way. you— just said. you've gone all the way. you two— just said. you've gone all the way. you two have— 2 you've gone all the way. you two have gone all the way— way. you two have gone all the way-talking— way. you two have gone all the way-talking about- way. you two have gone all the way talking about someone way from talking about someone wm.— way from talking about someone with a— way from talking about someone whh a whhh— way from talking about someone with a whole-is- with a whole life tariff is a huhhhe— with a whole life tariff is a multiple murderer to one both multiple murderer to one or both of-hhhhhg— multiple murderer to one or both of-thinking that— multiple murderer to one or both of thinking that nobody in of you thinking that nobody in prison— of you thinking that nobody in prison should— of you thinking that nobody in prison should be— of you thinking that nobody in prison should be to prison should be able to get married— prison should be able to get married at— prison should be able to get married at-and- prison should be able to get married at and let me have married at all. and let me have a married at all. and let me have elat— married at all. and let me have amt-because— married at all. and let me have a.at-becauselthink. a go at that because i think there-s— a go at that because i think there's-least— a go at that because i think there's least logic on your there's at least logic on your hash— there's at least logic on your hash-h- there's at least logic on your basis-islleastl basis that there is at least hogh— basis that there is at least hoghlwhhh— basis that there is at least logic what government is logic in what the government is trying— logic in what the government is hyhglho— logic in what the government is hyhglho whh— logic in what the government is trying-do with its— trying to do with its new vhhms— trying to do with its new victims .which - trying to do with its new- victims .which .that trying to do with its new victimswith which that trying to do with its new victimswith whole that trying to do with its new victimswith whole life that trying to do with its new victimswith whole life tariffs people with whole life tariffs can-h— people with whole life tariffs cah-h—hrhon.| people with whole life tariffs. can't _ prison. the can't get married in prison. the notion— can't get married in prison. the notion that— can't get married in prison. the notion that nobody can get married— notion that nobody can get married-prison- notion that nobody can get married prison profoundly married in prison is profoundly different.— different. right. for you, it's a different. right. for you, it's hone-_— different. right. for you, it's hone.- huh— different. right. for you, it's a-one. but let- different. right. for you, it's a one. but let try. different. right. for you, it's. a-one. but let-try. you a great one. but let me try. you were-shying— a great one. but let me try. you were-saying you- a great one. but let me try. you were saying you couldn't were both saying you couldn't think—reason- think of a possible reason why somebody—tel think of a possible reason why. somebody—to let somebody should be able to let me somebody should be able to let hea- go. — somebody should be able to let me-a go. terminal- me give it a go. terminal illness i gave. yeah > okay. outside all right.— illness i gave. yeah > okay. outside all right. i- illness i gave. yeah > okay. outside all right. i got- g / >okay. outside all right. i got it outside— outside all right. i got it outside-that.- outside all right. i got it outside that. neither outside of that. neither of you cahh- shgh- outside of that. neither of you can a single reason. can think of a single reason. ohe— can think of a single reason. one of— can think of a single reason. one of he— can think of a single reason. one of the reasons we have peophe— one of the reasons we have peoplelprison_ one of the reasons we have people prison we seek to people in prison and we seek to deh— people in prison and we seek to hehh—hhhh- people in prison and we seek to heat—than justl deal with them rather than just putting—shocks- deal with them rather than just putting—stocks or. putting them in the stocks or lynching — putting them in the stocks or lynching them.— putting them in the stocks or lynching them. one the lynching them. one of the

reasons prisons, lynching them. one of the. reasons-prisons, we reasons we have prisons, we heheve— reasons we have prisons, we heheve h— reasons we have prisons, we believe in this— reasons we have prisons, we believe in this country in rehabilitation.— believe in this country in rehabilitation. that rehabilitation. and i knew that the course— rehabilitation. and i knew that the course rehabilitation. the course of rehabilitation. yeah. —hohhh yeah. how terrible the notion that— yeah. how terrible the notion that-think— yeah. how terrible the notion that-think that- yeah. how terrible the notion that think that once that you think that once somebody— that you think that once somebody committed that you think that once somebody-committed crime, somebody has committed a crime, they—he— they should never be rehabilitated. i think nobody evev— .arel rehabilitated. i think nobody- ever_ - are .that ever should be. you are in that prison, first foremost, be prison, first and foremost, be punished. i want you to have the worst time of your life . i want worst time of your life. i want it to be an absolute working nightmare. i want you to cry yourself, to sleep every single minute of the day. and then you might think twice about doing what you did that put you there in first place. won't even in the first place. i won't even let people out for let these people out for funerals. that's fine. i might vetting.— funerals. that's fine. i might veeehglmheht— that's fine. i might wedding. might want wedding. i might well want prison— wedding. i might well want hheeh—h- wedding. i might well want. hheeh—h might prison to be harsher. i might think—should- prison to be harsher. i might. think—should have think that people should have far think that people should have her-visite— think that people should have far-visits. they- think that people should have far visits. they might far fewer visits. they might have— far fewer visits. they might have heee— far fewer visits. they might have less access- far fewer visits. they might have less access television have less access to television ehe— have less access to television ehe-hhevheh — have less access to television and-internet. and- have less access to television and internet. and so forth. have less access to television and one internet. and so forth. have less access to television and one of ernet. and so forth. have less access to television and one of the at. and so forth. have less access to television and one of the mostd so forth. have less access to television and one of the most powerful. but one of the most powerful hhheeteve— but one of the most powerful indicators-people- indicators of people re—offending, again, unless you-ve— re—offending, again, unless veuhe—hehehvl re—offending, again, unless. you're—nobody ever you're saying that nobody ever comes-michelle,- you're saying that nobody ever. comes-michelle, which comes out again, michelle, which vehe— comes out again, michelle, which wehee-hew— comes out again, michelle, which wehe-hew step— comes out again, michelle, which would new step even for would be a new step even for veh— would be a new step even for you. .— would be a new step even for you. t thhh— would be a new step even for you. i think you've nipped you. i think if you've nipped it, you. i think if you've nipped hlveu-ve— you. i think if you've nipped it,.you've nicked- you. i think if you've nipped. it,.you've nicked-bar, it, if you've nicked a mars bar, then— it, if you've nicked a mars bar, theh veh— it, if you've nicked a mars bar, then you-what.7 - it, if you've nicked a mars bar, then you-what.7 .onl then you know what.7 go on a shephhhg— then you know what.7 go on a shoplifting course. do shoplifting course. don't do it again. you start again. if you when you start talking about like people like this. what this. pitchfork fella, from what we're yesterday. we're talking about yesterday. yeah. when yeah. colin pitchfork when you start about snatching start talking about snatching

kids and raping them and strangling them, no, actually, michelle, you can't be. you are. you are going you're— ii ca" c you are. you are going you're going eheeh— you are going you're going directly extreme because directly to the extreme because you-ve— you're you're seeking to avoid the—het- you're you're seeking to avoid- the_not normally the argument you're not normally supposed—ev- supposed to be the referee, by the-he— supposed to be the referee, by the-to remind- supposed to be the referee, by the to remind you, the way, just to remind you, you-ve— the way, just to remind you, veuhe-he— the way, just to remind you, you're-to avoid- the way, just to remind you, you're to avoid the you're seeking to avoid the argument— you're seeking to avoid the argument-vast. you're seeking to avoid the- argument-vast majority you're seeking to avoid the- artoffenders-vast majority you're seeking to avoid the artoffenders who vast majority you're seeking to avoid the artoffenders who are last majority you're seeking to avoid the artoffenders who are then najority of offenders who are then veteeeee— of offenders who are then released from _ of offenders who are then released from prison. unless you-ve— released from prison. unless wehe-thet- released from prison. unless you're that nobody should you're saying that nobody should be you're saying that nobody should he—hheeh- you're saying that nobody should he—hheeh fev- be released from prison for eheheee. — be released from prison for offences. explain- be released from prison for offences. " be released from prison for- offences. explain to me how you think. and i'm genuinely interested how you think that be interested how you think that be in married and doing that in prison rather than waiting until you come out of rehabilitation. now i can see because it can be a powerful part of i can see, for example, where someone we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, where someone we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, ioitei’e someone we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, ion the vomeone we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, ion the showne we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, ion the show at we a powerful part of i can see, for (aample, ion the show a few had a debate on the show a few weeks where said, give weeks ago where we said, give him the right work him prisoners the right to work and earn a wage and the right to earn a wage aids their rehabilitation helps them into them integrate back into society, skills and society, gives them skills and also more also benefits society more widely . tell me how you think widely. tell me how you think simply married, which simply being married, which strikes personal benefit strikes me as a personal benefit rather benefit to society rather than a benefit to society at time. because the at that time. because the stability, because the stability and profound and encouragement of a profound personal relationship may be one of the things that turns somebody's around or helps

somebody's life around or helps to. beside the to. but that's almost beside the point,— to. but that's almost beside the point because— to. but that's almost beside the point, because you— but that's almost beside the point, because you interrupted my point, because you interrupted hv—hhehehe- my question to michelle, i think because— because i was saying to hhehehe— because i was saying to- michelle,-believe michelle, don't you believe hen-h— michelle, don't you believe don't—don'tl michelle, don't you believe. don't—don't you don't you believe in don't you heheve—etl believe in rehabilitation at ehe— believe in rehabilitation at all?-answer- believe in rehabilitation at all.7 answer seems believe in rehabilitation at- all?-answer seems to be all.7 and your answer seems to be no all? and your answer seems to be he , n0,— all? and your answer seems to be he , n0, that-e— all? and your answer seems to be no , no, that's answer. no, no, that's not my answer. her— no, no, that's not my answer. her-tevet— no, no, that's not my answer. for-level thing. _if. for low level thing. if you if you're a shoplifter or you've taken drugs and you know what? fair about burglary taken drugs and you know what? fa gbh about burglary taken drugs and you know what? fa gbh ? about burglary taken drugs and you know what? fa gbh ? well, about burglary taken drugs and you know what? fa gbh ? well, my about burglary taken drugs and you know what? fa gbh ? well, my ex—boyfriendi or gbh? well, my ex—boyfriend and was in and out of prison stop individual izing it. and what about the what- what about the what about the what— what about the what about the what eheeh— what about the what about the what about the _ what about the what about the what about the trend in society? do what about the trend in society? he-heheve— what about the trend in society? he-heheve h— what about the trend in society? do believe in rehabilitation do you believe in rehabilitation for-convicted— do you believe in rehabilitation for-convicted of- for people convicted of vetehvetv— relatively serious crimes? i think— relatively serious crimes? i think-vou— relatively serious crimes? i think-you-perhapsl relatively serious crimes? i think you perhaps get think that you can perhaps get your on track so your life back on track so people timpsons and people people like timpsons and people like the most reform. like that and the most reform. so them getting like that and the most reform. so for them getting like that and the most reform. so forjobs, them getting like that and the most reform. so for jobs, them getting like that and the most reform. so for jobs, the most tting training for jobs, the most pevehvh— training for jobs, the most powerful indicator of not not offending.— powerful indicator of not not offending. again learning offending. again is learning to heat— offending. again is learning to heee-heme— offending. again is learning to read inside almost read whilst inside almost everything— read whilst inside almost everything else. go, go in, have some tutorials,— everything else. go, go in, have some tutorials, do— everything else. go, go in, have some tutorials, do something. veh— some tutorials, do something. you-eut— some tutorials, do something. veuleuh veh— some tutorials, do something. you-out, you _out- some tutorials, do something. you out, you out and you go out, you come out and offend,— you go out, you come out and ehehhlh— you go out, you come out and offend,.in unable- you go out, you come out and offend, in unable to read, offend, go in unable to read, come out, able— offend, go in unable to read, come out, able to read you are far come out, able to read you are her-hhew— come out, able to read you are her-hhew he.— come out, able to read you are far-likely to. and- come out, able to read you are far likely to. and that's far less likely to. and that's rehabilitation.— rehabilitation. what about having— rehabilitation. what about having compromise rehabilitation. what about havinglcompromise having having a compromise about having a having a compromise about having e—hheh— having a compromise about having e—hheh e — having a compromise about having e—hheh e what- having a compromise about havingl a_then ? what about a boys night in then? what about having— a boys night in then? what about having boys in in having a boys night in in prison? helps build prison? because that helps build personal doesn't personal relationships, doesn't it? that helps develop it? that helps to develop

someone. that's comparison someone. that's your comparison whh— someone. that's your comparison whhh—he.- someone. that's your comparison whhh—he. no-l with learning to read? no, no. th— with learning to read? no, no. h-m—veuhe- with learning to read? no, no. i'm you're saying i'm asking you if you're saying it's terms of it's acceptable in terms of building a marriage relationship between and a woman, why between a man and a woman, why not having your mates round for the night visiting your prison cell? we can have mates night cell? we can have a mates night in cell? we can have a mates night h—eeuhhe- cell? we can have a mates night h—eeuhte eh- in over the next couple of minutes.— in over the next couple of minutes-the- in over the next couple of minutes. the break. minutes. during the break. having— minutes. during the break. having that— minutes. during the break. having that personal- having that personal interaction, which makes people having that personal inteibetter which makes people having that personal inteibetter whi encourageszople having that personal inteibetter whi encourages them. feel better and encourages them. come get of come on, mate, you'll get out of here get back on here soon. come on, get back on the why would you stop the road. why would you stop that? right? compromise. the road. why would you stop that'okay. it? compromise. the road. why would you stop that'okay.|t? readingnpromise. the road. why would you stop that'okay. it? reading classesie. the road. why would you stop that'okay. it? reading classes in yes. okay. do reading classes in jail?— yes. okay. do reading classes in hie-give— yes. okay. do reading classes in hie-give veh— yes. okay. do reading classes in jail?-give you that. - jail? i'll give you that. vveiiihge— jail? i'll give you that. weddings the rest weddings funerals, all the rest of h.— weddings funerals, all the rest of it. no,— weddings funerals, all the rest of it. nev-veh- weddings funerals, all the rest of it. no, you. what do of it. no, thank you. what do you— of it. no, thank you. what do you have— of it. no, thank you. what do you have to— of it. no, thank you. what do you make to it— of it. no, thank you. what do you make to it all at home? gb viewe— you make to it all at home? gb views at— you make to it all at home? gb views at eh— you make to it all at home? gb views at gb news— you make to it all at home? gb views at gb news are you views at gb news .com. are you heeh— views at gb news .com. are you heeh ei— views at gb news .com. are you heeh ei heee— views at gb news .com. are you heeh ei heee h— views at gb news .com. are you posh or does it benefit you? do you— posh or does it benefit you? do you get— posh or does it benefit you? do you get heit— posh or does it benefit you? do you get held back— posh or does it benefit you? do you get held back by being vetting— you get held back by being working having you get held back by being. working—having an working class or for having an eeeht— working class or for having an eeeehtlhete— working class or for having an accent-not? see— working class or for having an accent not? see you .

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won't want to miss it. we'll speak teacher who was speak to the teacher who was almost fired by ultra woke almost fired by an ultra woke school simply for teaching children the birds and the bees . my mop meets guest is acting legend amanda barrie, star of the carry on films and coronation street. plus, in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with bumbling joe biden . and with bumbling joe biden. and we've got the papers. my top punst we've got the papers. my top pundits and tv news legend john sergeant. we're live from aids . sergeant. we're live from aids. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you until 7:00 tonight alongside me, alex dean, paul embry . we tonight alongside me, alex dean, paul embry. we didn't have much of paul embry. we didn't have much et a— paul embry. we didn't have much et a tate— paul embry. we didn't have much et a hate night— paul embry. we didn't have much of a lads night out— paul embry. we didn't have much of a lads night out or— we didn't have much of a lads night out or anything in that— of a lads night out or anything in that break.— of a lads night out or anything in that break. i— of a lads night out or anything in that break. i have to say, athen— in that break. i have to say, adrian have— in that break. i have to say, adrian have just— in that break. i have to say, adrian have just got in touch saving— adrian have just got in touch saying vhtt— adrian have just got in touch saying what benfield is and what he tit— saying what benfield is and what he tit .— saying what benfield is and what he tit . he— saying what benfield is and what he did . he shouldn't have any he did. he shouldn't have any tighte— he did. he shouldn't have any tighte- veh— he did. he shouldn't have any rights. you should make that hieeh— rights. you should make that hteeh sitter— rights. you should make that bleep suffer .— rights. you should make that bleep suffer . adrian. good job. bleep suffer. adrian. good job. vet-e— bleep suffer. adrian. good job. vet-re het— bleep suffer. adrian. good job. the hot h— bleep suffer. adrian. good job. you're not in charge of law and otter— you're not in charge of law and order because— you're not in charge of law and order because detail is important.— order because detail is important. it's not. it's not.

hehtieit— important. it's not. it's not. benfield it's— important. it's not. it's not. benfield it's belfield. you are very— benfield it's belfield. you are very vveeemte— benfield it's belfield. you are very welcome, sue, says iiieheiie— very welcome, sue, says michelle. when everyone's in eheeh— michelle. when everyone's in hiieeh i— michelle. when everyone's in hheeh i te— michelle. when everyone's in prison, i do hope— michelle. when everyone's in prison, i do hope that they sit thi— prison, i do hope that they sit and hitt— prison, i do hope that they sit and play nothing— prison, i do hope that they sit and play nothing but gb news tee. i— and play nothing but gb news news. yes. i hope— and play nothing but gb news news. yes. i hope you don't think— news. yes. i hope you don't think that— news. yes. i hope you don't think that would be some kind of punishment— think that would be some kind of punishment listening to us over the— punishment listening to us over and ever— punishment listening to us over and again-— punishment listening to us over and over again. but it would be and over again. but it would be e-eueeeetieh- and over again. but it would be a suggestion actually a sensible suggestion actually to a sensible suggestion actually te-eh— a sensible suggestion actually te-eh the— a sensible suggestion actually to on the channel to get that on the channel reerte— to get that on the channel roster, wouldn't- to get that on the channel roster, wouldn't it? people roster, wouldn't it? many people saying— roster, wouldn't it? many people saving-reite— roster, wouldn't it? many people saying fella should saying that this fella should have— saying that this fella should have - subject - saying that this fella should have - subject to - saying that this fella should have subject to capital have been subject to capital hrhiehrheht— have been subject to capital punishment—be. punishment. that will be something— punishment. that will be something divides people . something that divides people. we had that conversation veetertev— we had that conversation yesterday about we had that conversation- yesterday-about colin yesterday actually about colin iitehterh— yesterday actually about colin pitchfork, whether or not he eheuit — pitchfork, whether or not he should have— pitchfork, whether or not he should have been subject to the teeth— should have been subject to the teeth-teeth— should have been subject to the death _really did- should have been subject to the death really did divide death penalty really did divide you,— death penalty really did divide your that— death penalty really did divide your that ehe— death penalty really did divide you, that one. that is for sure . ttheh— you, that one. that is for sure . then it— you, that one. that is for sure . when it comes— you, that one. that is for sure . when it comes to- you, that one. that is for sure . when it comes to the work , the . when it comes to the work, the work. — . when it comes to the work, the work. -ihet— . when it comes to the work, the work. _that situation - . when it comes to the work, the work. that situation , work. wicks that situation, whether— work. wicks that situation, whether or— work. wicks that situation, whether or not— work. wicks that situation, whether or not if you believe in hieieeieei— whether or not if you believe in biological sex,— whether or not if you believe in biological sex, whether or not tricke— biological sex, whether or not ttiete te— biological sex, whether or not ttiete ie the— biological sex, whether or not wicks is the store— biological sex, whether or not wicks is the store for you , lots wicks is the store for you, lots of wicks is the store for you, lots et ver— wicks is the store for you, lots or you eevihe— wicks is the store for you, lots of you saying that— wicks is the store for you, lots of you saying that you were john eetueiiv— of you saying that you were john eetreitv eave— of you saying that you were john actually says .went- of you saying that you were john actually says went into actually says he went into a tricke— actually says he went into a ttiete tettv— actually says he went into a wicks today saw— actually says he went into a wicks today saw the comment and he tert— wicks today saw the comment and he iett he— wicks today saw the comment and he iett he vee— wicks today saw the comment and he left he was browsing his phone— he left he was browsing his phone whilst— he left he was browsing his phone whilst he was in there. so they-ve— phone whilst he was in there. so thev-ve-veur— phone whilst he was in there. so they've your custom. lots they've lost your custom. lots of they've lost your custom. lots er heehie — they've lost your custom. lots er heehte eh — they've lost your custom. lots of people on that— they've lost your custom. lots of people on that topic of prisoners— of people on that topic of prisoners saying that actually they— prisoners saying that actually they shouti— prisoners saying that actually they should lose—

prisoners saying that actually they should lose all rights. but harv— they should lose all rights. but many peehte— they should lose all rights. but many people also— they should lose all rights. but many people also agreeing with hart,— many people also agreeing with taut, vhieh— many people also agreeing with paul, which is— many people also agreeing with paul, which is you— many people also agreeing with paul, which is you can't just have— paul, which is you can't just have random— paul, which is you can't just have random rules for one fellow thet— have random rules for one fellow rust—tent- have random rules for one fellow rust—tent tite- just because you don't like him. it just because you don't like him. it-rhe— just because you don't like him. it-rhe et— just because you don't like him. it-rhe at that— just because you don't like him. it-me at that point- it annoys me at that point heewee— it annoys me at that point because it's— it annoys me at that point because it's true . but yeah, i because it's true. but yeah, i tint— because it's true. but yeah, i tiht et— because it's true. but yeah, i tiht et get— because it's true. but yeah, i kind of get your— because it's true. but yeah, i kind of get your point. lots of you— kind of get your point. lots of you re— kind of get your point. lots of you he vett— kind of get your point. lots of you as well on— kind of get your point. lots of you as well on that energy eituttieh— you as well on that energy situation. not— you as well on that energy situation. not a— you as well on that energy situation. not a lot of regard thi— situation. not a lot of regard and respect— situation. not a lot of regard and respect for— situation. not a lot of regard and respect for net zero coming through— and respect for net zero coming through eh— and respect for net zero coming through oh my— and respect for net zero coming through on my inbox, that is for rete— through on my inbox, that is for sure. let's talk— through on my inbox, that is for sure. let's talk accent, shall vee— sure. let's talk accent, shall vet ho— sure. let's talk accent, shall wet to vou— sure. let's talk accent, shall we? do you have— sure. let's talk accent, shall we? do you have one? i have to sov— we? do you have one? i have to out ,— we? do you have one? i have to eov , harv— we? do you have one? i have to eov , huhv heohie— we? do you have one? i have to say , many people tell me that i say, many people tell me that i do, say, many people tell me that i to, hut— say, many people tell me that i to, hut i— say, many people tell me that i to, hut i to— say, many people tell me that i do, but i do not— say, many people tell me that i do, but i do not believe oetuoiiv— do, but i do not believe actually that- do, but i do not believe actually that possess much of actually that i possess much of actually that i possess much of o strong— actually that i possess much of a strong accent— actually that i possess much of a strong accent at— actually that i possess much of a strong accent at all. but opporehttv— a strong accent at all. but apparently researchers revealed that— apparently researchers revealed that i— apparently researchers revealed that ile— apparently researchers revealed that 1.5 adults— apparently researchers revealed that i 5 adults believe that that i in 5 adults believe that their— that i in 5 adults believe that their background, their accent or-eoeioi— their background, their accent or- social status- their background, their accent or social status has or whatever social status has hote— or whatever social status has mote them— or whatever social status has made them miss— or whatever social status has made them miss out on a job. do you— made them miss out on a job. do you think— made them miss out on a job. do you think tite— made them miss out on a job. do you think like class— you think like class discrimination stuff? you think like class- discrimination-stuff? paul you think like class- di alive nation-stuff? paul you think like class- di alive and)n-stuff? paul you think like class di alive and well. stuff? paul you think like class di alive and well. istuff? paul you think like class di alive and well. i think paul is alive and well. i think eioeeierh — is alive and well. i think classism is— is alive and well. i think classism is alive and well . classism is alive and well. i thirt— classism is alive and well. i think accent— classism is alive and well. i think accent ism,— classism is alive and well. i think accent ism, which is rarely spoken about actually, but i think it is certainly alive and well . i mean, it is alive and well. i mean, it is true that we see a much greater diverse city of accents now on mainstream media. i mean, once upon a time it was the queen's english. and do you think that's

a english. and do you think that's o goot— english. and do you think that's o goot thingi— english. and do you think that's o goot thihge — english. and do you think that's a good thing? received- a good thing? received pronunciation? i do think it's a really good thing because, you know, a rich know, this country has a rich diversity of accents and i don't see that because you were brought up in a particular place and naturally develop a particular accent that the only way you can get on in life and get into certain occupations is if you're willing to abandon that accent and go through, you know, elocution lessons of some kind. i think there's kind. however, i think there's still, although the media now is much more open to this sort of stuff, don't think other stuff, i don't think other industries and i was industries are and i was thinking about this on the way in. look at the upper in. if you look at the upper echelons of our life, you know, pubuc echelons of our life, you know, public some public life and in some cases still media and business and still the media and business and whatever , it's not very often whatever, it's not very often you see, for example , a broad you see, for example, a broad norfolk accent. it's not very often you see a west country accent. it's not very often you see black country from see a black country accent from somebody wolverhampton somebody like wolverhampton where people have managed where those people have managed to get on and attain , you know, to get on and attain, you know, prominent they've prominent positions. they've usually got rid of their accents. so and it is a serious form of discrimination actually, and i think we should talk about

it than we do as a it a lot more than we do as a country. you think it's still country. do you think it's still alive well? the alive and well? the discrimination? - alive and well? the discrimination? the discrimination? i think the biggest probably me biggest issue is probably me advantage than advantage rather than disadvantage. and when i say advantage, mean old networks advantage, i mean old networks and going having been to the right school and forth , right school and so forth, having connections, having those connections, i think still exists. think that that still exists. i think that that still exists. i think discrimination think active discrimination really is vanishingly small in this country. whilst of course we still have a society that has various classes in it, i think britain's journey towards a more classless society is really quite extraordinary. british society today as compared to say, 100 years ago, almost unrecognisable for a lot of people who lived ioo unrecognisable for a lot of people who lived 100 years ago in terms of removing disadvantage. i do think there's something about that positivity that people get from their that some people get from their connections experience or connections with experience or background, but be of no doubt our country has come a long way to be egalitarian. yeah, to be more egalitarian. yeah, i mean, one of-things- to be more egalitarian. yeah, i mean, one of-things i- g a" yeah, i mean, one of things i like mean, one of the things i like as mean, one of the things i like oe-ohout— mean, one of the things i like as-about this— mean, one of the things i like as about this channel, i'll as well about this channel, i'll do as well about this channel, i'll toliittie— as well about this channel, i'll dollittle sales— as well about this channel, i'll do little sales pitch here, do a little sales pitch here, hut— do a little sales pitch here, hut-i— do a little sales pitch here, hut-i thiht— do a little sales pitch here, but-i think that- do a little sales pitch here, but i think that when you but i do. i think that when you iieteh— but i do. i think that when you iieteh i— but i do. i think that when you listen, i think— but i do. i think that when you listen, i think about bethany, for listen, i think about bethany, tor exempte— listen, i think about bethany, for example, she's a geordie,

ehe-e— for example, she's a geordie, ehee—here.- she's a newsreader here. ohvioueiv— she's a newsreader here. obviously do obviously i'm northern, so i do think— obviously i'm northern, so i do think ve— obviously i'm northern, so i do think we have— obviously i'm northern, so i do think we have lots— obviously i'm northern, so i do think we have lots of different tint— think we have lots of different tiht ot— think we have lots of different kind of voices— think we have lots of different kind of voices as— think we have lots of different kind of voices as this kind of voices as on this theme.— kind of voices as on this channel. and— kind of voices as on this channel. and i- kind of voices as on this channel. and i think, yeah, but i channel. and i think, yeah, but i to— channel. and i think, yeah, but i to think— channel. and i think, yeah, but i do think too,— channel. and i think, yeah, but i do think too, though, i take that— i do think too, though, i take that point— i do think too, though, i take that point and— i do think too, though, i take that point and i— i do think too, though, i take that point and i think it's g...— that point and i think it's true-hewe— that point and i think it's true, news does a great deal true, gb news does a great deal to— true, gb news does a great deal more to represent— true, gb news does a great deal more to represent regional voice ont— more to represent regional voice and story— more to represent regional voice and story then— more to represent regional voice and story than many channels do, but and story than many channels do, hut it— and story than many channels do, hut it vou— and story than many channels do, but if you broaden— and story than many channels do, but if you broaden it to a professional— but if you broaden it to a professional services people's iteo— professional services people's idea . diversity— professional services people's idea diversity today is that idea of diversity today is that we ott— idea of diversity today is that we hit toot— idea of diversity today is that we all look different and think the-hut— we all look different and think the-hut th- we all look different and think the-and i'm glad- we all look different and think the-and i'm glad youl the same. and i'm glad you don't. and i think the same. and i'm glad you don't. and i think that- the same. . d cc?“ c and i think that is a don't. and i think that is a verv— don't. and i think that is a very gooe— don't. and i think that is a very goot point— don't. and i think that is a very good point to- cc?“ c and i think that is a very good point to end that on. that— very good point to end that on. ihotlohe— very good point to end that on. ihotlohe ot— very good point to end that on. that-one of the— very good point to end that on. that one of the things you that is one of the things you never-diversity- that is one of the things you never diversity thoughts never see diversity of thoughts iheiutet — never see diversity of thoughts included _these - never see diversity of thoughts included these weird included in some of these weird troihihg— included in some of these weird tithing-thet- included in some of these weird training _that these - training sessions that these eorhohihee— companies are on. do they look time— companies are on. do they look time-toeeh-t— companies are on. do they lookj time-doesn't-you time flies, doesn't it, when you are time flies, doesn't it, when you ore—thot-el are having fun, gents? 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