why i think the gravy train and why i think the gravy train of free— and why i think the gravy train of free prescriptions for over 60s— of free prescriptions for over 60s needs— of free prescriptions for over 60s needs to— of free prescriptions for over 60s needs to end. it's 8:00 and this— 60s needs to end. it's 8:00 and this is— 60s needs to end. it's 8:00 and iiis is iss— 60s needs to end. it's 8:00 and iiis is is .— 60s needs to end. it's 8:00 and this is the . saturday five. this is the. saturday five. isigisi. — this is the. saturday five. right. welcome to the saturday five.— right. welcome to the saturday iivs. iiis— right. welcome to the saturday five. the show— right. welcome to the saturday five. the show that will be marking— five. the show that will be marking iss— five. the show that will be marking the king's birthday with an issui— marking the king's birthday with an hour si— marking the king's birthday with an hour of anger,— marking the king's birthday with an hour of anger, recrimination sni— an hour of anger, recrimination and psiiy— an hour of anger, recrimination and petty bickering . it's what and petty bickering. it's what he and petty bickering. it's what is wsuii— and petty bickering. it's what he would have— and petty bickering. it's what he would have wanted after all. sens-amin— he would have wanted after all. benjamin butterworth is here wiiii— benjamin butterworth is here wiiis ms— benjamin butterworth is here wiiis me as— benjamin butterworth is here with me as usual. but i'll be an imiiy— with me as usual. but i'll be an imiiy have— with me as usual. but i'll be an emily have been— with me as usual. but i'll be an emily have been suspended for a week— emily have been suspended for a week-iss— emily have been suspended for a week the standards and week by the standards and iiiviisgss— week by the standards and- privileges—we're privileges committee. so we're isiigisisi — privileges committee. so we're delighted brilliant delighted to welcome brilliant iisaisssisi— delighted to welcome brilliant broadcaster and— delighted to welcome brilliant broadcaster and politician alex iiiiiips— broadcaster and politician alex iiiiiips iss— broadcaster and politician alex phillips, the institute of economis— phillips, the institute of economic affairs guru and all muni— economic affairs guru and all round media— economic affairs guru and all round media colossus reem iiisisim. — round media colossus reem ibrahim. and— round media colossus reem ibrahim. and he— round media colossus reem ibrahim. and he used to work for the government,— ibrahim. and he used to work for the government, so— ibrahim. and he used to work for the government, so he's used to vying— the government, so he's used to iiying is— the government, so he's used to iiying is defensi— the government, so he's used to trying to defend the indefensible. welcome to the show— indefensible. welcome to the show-rowisy. - indefensible. welcome to the show rowley. now the show, charlie rowley. now the premise— show, charlie rowley. now the premise si— show, charlie rowley. now the premise of the— show, charlie rowley. now the premise of the show is simple . premise of the show is simple. essi— premise of the show is simple. isci hosi— premise of the show is simple. each host outlines— premise of the show is simple. each host outlines their- each host outlines their argument about a topic of the day, and then we all pile in and it makes question time look like a children's tea party. although we're more honest than we're a lot more honest than the people and course , we people there. and of course, we want your views as well.

want to know your views as well. so get in touch by emailing gb views at gb news .com. but before we start tearing each other apart and we will. it's your saturday night news with ray addison . thanks benjamin. ray addison. thanks benjamin. here's the latest from the newsroom in— here's the latest from the newsroom in our top story, the naiisnsi— newsroom in our top story, the national education union has announced more— national education union has announced more strike action nsxi— announced more strike action nsxi menis— announced more strike action nsxi moniis sn— announced more strike action next month on the fifth and the 7th next month on the fifth and the iii si— next month on the fifth and the iii of iuiy. — next month on the fifth and the 7th of july. teachers in england win— 7th of july. teachers in england wiii wais— 7th of july. teachers in england will walk out— 7th of july. teachers in england will walk out in— 7th of july. teachers in england will walk out in their long running— will walk out in their long running dispute over pay . the eu running dispute over pay. the eu is siss— running dispute over pay. the eu is also rebalancing_ running dispute over pay. the eu is also rebalancing its members to is also rebalancing its members is see— is also rebalancing its members is ii— is also rebalancing its members is ii sissy— is also rebalancing its members to see if they want— is also rebalancing its members to see if they want to continue to see if they want to continue is isking— to see if they want to continue to taking industrial action for the to taking industrial action for is resi— to taking industrial action for is issi si— to taking industrial action for the rest of the— to taking industrial action for the rest of the year . to taking industrial action for the rest of the year. thousands of the rest of the year. thousands si ssssis— the rest of the year. thousands si ssssie isvs— the rest of the year. thousands of people have been marching in ssnirsi— of people have been marching in central london,— of people have been marching in central london, calling for a change— central london, calling for a change in— central london, calling for a change in us— central london, calling for a change in uk abortion laws. they shaming— change in uk abortion laws. they were chanting for— change in uk abortion laws. they were chanting for the release of saris— were chanting for the release of csiis ississ— were chanting for the release of carla foster, who— were chanting for the release of carla foster, who admitted to isking— carla foster, who admitted to taking abortion— carla foster, who admitted to taking abortion pills after the isgsi— taking abortion pills after the isgsi iims— taking abortion pills after the legal time limit— taking abortion pills after the legal time limit resulting in the legal time limit resulting in is sessi— legal time limit resulting in the death of— legal time limit resulting in the death of her child. the 44 year— the death of her child. the 44 year sis— the death of her child. the 44 year old mother— the death of her child. the 44 year old mother of three was

given— year old mother of three was given s— year old mother of three was given s 28— year old mother of three was given a 28 month extended sentence . some- given a 28 month extended sentence . some mps have called sentence. some mps have called for sentence. some mps have called is s— sentence. some mps have called is s remini— sentence. some mps have called for a rethink over— sentence. some mps have called for a rethink over the law, which— for a rethink over the law, which bans— for a rethink over the law, which bans terminations past 24 weeks— which bans terminations past 24 weeks excess— which bans terminations past 24 weeks except in— which bans terminations past 24 weeks except in exceptional circumstances— weeks except in exceptional circumstances .— weeks except in exceptional circumstances . the man charged circumstances. the man charged wish— circumstances. the man charged wiiis sie— circumstances. the man charged with the murders— circumstances. the man charged with the murders of the three visiims— with the murders of the three visiims si— with the murders of the three victims of nottingham's knife siissks— victims of nottingham's knife siissks iss— victims of nottingham's knife attacks has been— victims of nottingham's knife attacks has been remanded in susisis— attacks has been remanded in susisiy. si— attacks has been remanded in eusissy. si year— attacks has been remanded in custody. 31 year old valdo ksisksni— custody. 31 year old valdo kalakani is— custody. 31 year old valdo kalakani is accused of killing barnaby— kalakani is accused of killing barnaby webber_ kalakani is accused of killing barnaby webber , grace o'malley, barnaby webber, grace o'malley, kemer— barnaby webber, grace o'malley, kumsi sni— barnaby webber, grace o'malley, sums and isn— barnaby webber, grace o'malley, kumar and ian coates on tuesday. hes— kumar and ian coates on tuesday. ie-s siss— kumar and ian coates on tuesday. he's also accused— kumar and ian coates on tuesday. he's also accused of— kumar and ian coates on tuesday. he's also accused of three ssunsi— he's also accused of three ssunsi si— he's also accused of three counts of attempted murder after iiiee— counts of attempted murder after iiiee siiiei— counts of attempted murder after three other people— counts of attempted murder after three other people were injured wises— three other people were injured when they— three other people were injured when they were— three other people were injured when they were hit by a van. isiise— when they were hit by a van. isiise seve— when they were hit by a van. police have named four people ism— police have named four people iism sie— police have named four people from the same— police have named four people from the same family who were isuni— from the same family who were isuni seei— from the same family who were found dead in— from the same family who were found dead in a— from the same family who were found dead in a flat in west misses.— found dead in a flat in west london. although formal identification— london. although formal identification is yet to take pisse— identification is yet to take piece, iiiey-ie — identification is yet to take place, they're being named as iiiee— place, they're being named as iiiee year— place, they're being named as three year old _ place, they're being named as three year old david vojacek and ii three year old david vojacek and ii year— three year old david vojacek and ii yesi sis— three year old david vojacek and ii yesi sis mais— three year old david vojacek and 11 year old maja, 35— three year old david vojacek and 11 year old maja, 35 year old iisniks— 11 year old maja, 35 year old iisniks sni— 11 year old maja, 35 year old monika and 39— 11 year old maja, 35 year old monika and 39 year old michael . monika and 39 year old michael. siiiseis— monika and 39 year old michael. officers forced— monika and 39 year old michael. officers forced entry to a property— officers forced entry to a property on_ officers forced entry to a property on staines road after concerns for their— property on staines road after concerns for their welfare yesieissy— concerns for their welfare yesterday met.- concerns for their welfare yesterday met. police says it's ess— yesterday met. police says it's nsi seeking— yesterday met. police says it's not seeking anyone else in

ssneesiisn— not seeking anyone else in connection with— not seeking anyone else in connection with the incident. iieii, — connection with the incident. iieii, iiie — connection with the incident. well, the killing. the king has seieisisiei— well, the killing. the king has celebrated his— well, the killing. the king has celebrated his official birthday wish— celebrated his official birthday wiiis sie— celebrated his official birthday with the nation— celebrated his official birthday with the nation during his first iisssine— with the nation during his first trooping sie— with the nation during his first trooping the colour ceremony as msnssii— trooping the colour ceremony as monarch. around 8000 spectators surrounded _ around 8000 spectators surrounded horse guards to watch the surrounded horse guards to watch iiie miiiisiy— surrounded horse guards to watch the military parade— surrounded horse guards to watch the military parade , which dates the military parade, which dates seek— the military parade, which dates back zeo— the military parade, which dates back 260 years. _ the military parade, which dates back 260 years. for the first iime — back 260 years. for the first time since 1989.— back 260 years. for the first time since 1989. all five regimens— time since 1989. all five regiments of— time since 1989. all five regiments of foot guards, that's the regiments of foot guards, that's iiie iieisii— regiments of foot guards, that's the welsh scots,— regiments of foot guards, that's the welsh scots, irish, coldstream _ the welsh scots, irish, coldstream and grenadier paraded iseeiiiei— coldstream and grenadier paraded isgeiisei wish— coldstream and grenadier paraded together with around 1500 ssiiieis. — together with around 1500 soldiers. it— together with around 1500 soldiers. it was- together with around 1500 soldiers. it was also the first iime— soldiers. it was also the first iime siss— soldiers. it was also the first iime iiisi s— soldiers. it was also the first time that a monarch has ridden isiseisssk— time that a monarch has ridden horseback during— time that a monarch has ridden horseback during the parade in sien— horseback during the parade in iiisn so— horseback during the parade in more than 30 years. of course, she— more than 30 years. of course, iiie issi— more than 30 years. of course, iiie issi being— more than 30 years. of course, the last being queen elizabeth ii the last being queen elizabeth ii in— the last being queen elizabeth ii in see.— the last being queen elizabeth h in 1986. and— the last being queen elizabeth ii in 1986. and the kremlin says it's ii in 1986. and the kremlin says is uniikeiy— ii in 1986. and the kremlin says it's unlikely that— ii in 1986. and the kremlin says it's unlikely that russia will exieni— it's unlikely that russia will exieni sie— it's unlikely that russia will extend the black sea grain deal. the extend the black sea grain deal. iiie sereni— extend the black sea grain deal. the current agreement allows issi— the current agreement allows issi sni— the current agreement allows

food and fertiliser to be exssiiei— food and fertiliser to be exported from three ukrainian ssiis— exported from three ukrainian ssiis, sisvising— exported from three ukrainian ports, providing a steady food supply— ports, providing a steady food supplv is— ports, providing a steady food supply to multiple countries. its supply to multiple countries. is ssiissse— supply to multiple countries. its collapse could leave some nsiisns— its collapse could leave some nations facing— its collapse could leave some nations facing food shortages. iiesnwiiie— nations facing food shortages. meanwhile, president putin says ie-s— meanwhile, president putin says iie-s siswn— meanwhile, president putin says he's shown african leaders a disfi— he's shown african leaders a iisii sesse— he's shown african leaders a draft peace agreement with ukraine,— draft peace agreement with ukraine, which _ draft peace agreement with ukraine, which he claims kyiv iss— ukraine, which he claims kyiv iss semes— ukraine, which he claims kyiv has turned down— ukraine, which he claims kyiv has turned down on tv online , on has turned down on tv online, on desi — has turned down on tv online, on desi resis— has turned down on tv online, on desi isiis sni— has turned down on tv online, on dab+ radio and on— has turned down on tv online, on dab+ radio and on tune in to iiis— dab+ radio and on tune in to iiis is— dab+ radio and on tune in to iiis is es— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news.— dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. back now. it's . all five. | is. . all five. it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm darren grimes and you're safe to sit and relax with a nice sit back and relax with a nice dnnk sit back and relax with a nice drink for the next hour as we try world to rights. try and set the world to rights. now now, the duke and duchess of susse— now now, the duke and duchess of sussex are rarely— now now, the duke and duchess of sussex are rarely-from- mimi now, the duke and duchess of sussex are rarely from the sussex are rarely far from the iiesiiines— sussex are rarely far from the headlines and— sussex are rarely far from the headlines and they've parted way wish— headlines and they've parted way wiiis sssiiiy— headlines and they've parted way with spotify after— headlines and they've parted way with spotify after just one si— with spotify after just one series of their— with spotify after just one series of their archetypes ssisssi. — series of their archetypes sssessi. ns— series of their archetypes podcast. no doubt darren is

seeking— podcast. no doubt darren is seeking sie— podcast. no doubt darren is backing the popular couple all the backing the popular couple all iiie wav- — backing the popular couple all iiie way. vesi— backing the popular couple all the way. yeah it's— backing the popular couple all the way. yeah it's grime time. iieii— the way. yeah it's grime time. iieii su— the way. yeah it's grime time. well all today,— the way. yeah it's grime time. well all today, as— the way. yeah it's grime time. well all today, as ray addison iss— well all today, as ray addison iss iusi— well all today, as ray addison isss iusi isii— well all today, as ray addison has just told you,— well all today, as ray addison has just told you, was king cisiies— has just told you, was king charles official— has just told you, was king charles official birthday. m; charles official birthday. we saw our military— charles official birthday. we saw our military at- charles official birthday. we saw our military at their finest and the royal family waving from the balcony of buckingham palace for trooping the colour. the king's first as sovereign . when king's first as sovereign. when the king took part on horseback , the first monarch to do so in 30 years. meanwhile while folks in a mansion somewhere in montecito, there's somewhat less to celebrate . meghan and harry to celebrate. meghan and harry remember them well, the duke and duchess of walk are waving to. but it's a wave goodbye as their palace and media empire made of sand starts to crumble. rejoice in 2020, the pair signed a deal worth about $20 million. the wall street journal report that the couple hasn't met the productivity benchmarks required to receive the full payout from the deal. well, the first two

episodes didn't actually appear until two years after that agreement was signed, and now it's gone on, isn't it.7 absolutely. extra ordinary that the pair who said that it was too tough to be working royals now say it's too tough to produce a few vacuous, vapid and vain podcasts for millions of quid. the poor dears, how on earth are they going to pay for that? mansions mortgage . now that? mansions mortgage. now commenting on the pair and the deal bill simmons, who is spotify's head of podcast innovation and monetisation, didn't exactly hold back . we had didn't exactly hold back. we had been involved in the— i: i: c coxe�*cmq “iii: f we had been involved in the meghan : : : i5>s

embarrassing. and i'll tell you wises— embarrassing. and i'll tell you wisi, i,— embarrassing. and i'll tell you wisi, i is— embarrassing. and i'll tell you what, i, for one,— embarrassing. and i'll tell you what, i, for one, cannot- q and i'll tell you what, i, for one, cannot wait 5g and i'll tell you what, i, for one, cannot wait to hesi— what, i, for one, cannot wait to hear sessi— what, i, for one, cannot wait to hear about ginger— what, i, for one, cannot wait to hear about ginger and whinge on this hear about ginger and whinge on iiis zssm— hear about ginger and whinge on this zoom call.— hear about ginger and whinge on this zoom call. hopefully this is she— this zoom call. hopefully this is iiie eni— this zoom call. hopefully this is the end for— this zoom call. hopefully this is the end for them. even america— is the end for them. even america has— is the end for them. even america has had enough. they're massive.— america has had enough. they're lucrative. deals— america has had enough. they're lucrative. deals are— america has had enough. they're lucrative. deals are falling sway— lucrative. deals are falling sway sni— lucrative. deals are falling away and this— lucrative. deals are falling away and this plastic pair may have— away and this plastic pair may have is— away and this plastic pair may have is sisii— away and this plastic pair may have to start learning a thing or have to start learning a thing si iws— have to start learning a thing si iws sessi— have to start learning a thing or two about actually working for or two about actually working is s— or two about actually working is s using.— or two about actually working for a living. well— or two about actually working for a living. well benjamin suiieiwsiiii— for a living. well benjamin butterworth, i'm pretty certain siss— butterworth, i'm pretty certain iiisi ysu— butterworth, i'm pretty certain that you disagree with that veiemeniiy. — that you disagree with that vehemently. and that actually you vehemently. and that actually wsw wee— vehemently. and that actually you were probably one of the sessi— you were probably one of the most vehement— you were probably one of the most vehement listeners of the ssisssi. — most vehement listeners of the sssessi. lmesw— most vehement listeners of the podcast.imean, i— most vehement listeners of the podcast. mean, i think podcast. i mean, i think i iisiewei— podcast. i mean, i think i listened to— podcast. i mean, i think i listened to every episode, but i have— listened to every episode, but i iswelssw— listened to every episode, but i iswelssw wei— listened to every episode, but i have .say that i'm - listened to every episode, but i have say that i'm sorry for have to say that i'm sorry for wsw— have to say that i'm sorry for wsw isss. — have to say that i'm sorry for your loss. yeah,— have to say that i'm sorry for your loss. yeah, my- have to say that i'm sorry for your loss. / c have to say that i'm sorry for your loss. “55 5“ c 5“ c your loss. yeah, my timer won't get back. in part, that was because i had to write about each episode that's because each episode and that's because there a huge worldwide there was a huge worldwide interest. they interest. you know, they had people mariah they people like mariah carey. they had huge stars going on there to share story . us had huge stars going on there to share story. us and share their story. us and actually, you know , i just don't actually, you know, i just don't get why people like you have such a visceral hatred of this couple that you can't accept what is basically a great british success story. britain propelled them forward. harry is one of the most famous britons one of the most famous britons on the world. why can't you be happy?— on the world. why can't you be happy? wen,— on the world. why can't you be happy? well,-consider-

5“ : why can't you be happy? well, consider that happy? well, if we consider that harry— happy? well, if we consider that hews—sie- happy? well, if we consider that harry—are s- happy? well, if we consider that harry—are a tech. harry and meghan are a tech sews—wis— harry and meghan are a tech start—up, right?— harry and meghan are a tech start—up, right? they've gone out start—up, right? they've gone sis-america.— start—up, right? they've gone out america. they're trying out to america. they're trying to out to america. they're trying is make— out to america. they're trying is make ii— out to america. they're trying is make is in— out to america. they're trying to make it in podcast to make it in the podcast and weiiiix—sl netflix industry. well, it's a iesis. — netflix industry. well, it's a tech. start—up— netflix industry. well, it's a tech. start—up that's gone wees. — tech. start—up that's gone wees. ani— tech. start—up that's gone under. and they're going under. and maybe they're going to under. and maybe they're going is—si— under. and maybe they're going is—si ssme- under. and maybe they're going to_at some time| to need a bailout at some time ss— to need a bailout at some time ss ii-s— to need a bailout at some time soon. so it's hardly— to need a bailout at some time soon. so it's hardly a british sissy,— soon. so it's hardly a british success story, is— soon. so it's hardly a british success story, is it? i mean, i wink,— success story, is it? i mean, i shins—sessie- success story, is it? i mean, i think,-people like| success story, is it? i mean, i- think,-people like you think, you know, people like you have— think, you know, people like you have wis— think, you know, people like you have this constant— think, you know, people like you have this constant obsession wish— have this constant obsession wiiis wis— have this constant obsession with this couple— have this constant obsession with this couple just with this couple who are just swing— with this couple who are just swing-wei- with this couple who are just trying -their own - with this couple who are just trying their own way. trying to make their own way. im — trying to make their own way. im -v°u_ trying to make their own way. i-m-wsw spewi- trying to make their own way. i'm -you spend the. i'm sorry, but you spend the rest your life talking about rest of your life talking about why shouldn't off why people shouldn't live off the state. well, they said we don't want to live the don't want to live off the state. and now you're still. i bet they'll be back with- bet they'll be back with their, vou— bet they'll be back with their, wsw-wegisw-s- bet they'll be back with their, you meghan's handbag you know, meghan's handbag asking— you know, meghan's handbag asking is— you know, meghan's handbag asking for hands— you know, meghan's handbag asking for hands the asking for hands out from the saiase. —i palace. alex phillips yeah. i get— palace. alex phillips yeah. i aei sie— palace. alex phillips yeah. i get the impression- palace. alex phillips yeah. get the impression she's probably political probably got some political ambitions learn ambitions that will soon learn about well. know, about as well. but you know, i agree with you. it does seem to me that they want to be famous for the sake of being famous. they don't to work they don't want to do any work for sort of to me seems for it. it's sort of to me seems to corroborate the idea that she probably married for status probably married him for status and fame supercharging and for extra fame supercharging herself. to the herself. all the way to the a—list. that public a—list. but i think that public opinion, here and abroad, opinion, both here and abroad, is really beginning to drop for them now. speaking to

them now. i was speaking to americans other day i americans the other day when i was that side of was on holiday in that side of the world, and none them want the world, and none of them want them. everyone i spoke to just wants send back here. wants to send them back here. and was like, no, you keep and i was like, no, you keep skew.— and i was like, no, you keep iiiem. reem,— and i was like, no, you keep them. reem, do— and i was like, no, you keep them. reem, do you find it extraordinary— them. reem, do you find it extraordinary that a cheese extraordinary that a top cheese at extraordinary that a top cheese ai—sw— extraordinary that a top cheese ai—sw a- extraordinary that a top cheese at_on a podcast,| at spotify write on a podcast, his at spotify write on a podcast, iiis sw— at spotify write on a podcast, his own podcast— at spotify write on a podcast, his own podcast actually saying was—seeping- that, calling them beeping young giiiieis— that, calling them beeping young aiiiieis e — that, calling them beeping young grifters .7 well,— that, calling them beeping young grifters .7 well, i— that, calling them beeping young grifters .7 �*fw�*i5cc 5“ c grifters? well, i mean, it is quite a source of evidence there for sort of the way that the couple have able to sort of couple have been able to sort of grift their way through through this media atmosphere. this sort of media atmosphere. i mean, benjamin, i think it's ewiiieiw— i mean, benjamin, i think it's entirely ludicrous— i mean, benjamin, i think it's entirely ludicrous sort of entirely ludicrous to sort of seeki— entirely ludicrous to sort of aesiei wais— entirely ludicrous to sort of depict this couple as this kind of depict this couple as this kind si siiiisii— depict this couple as this kind of british success— depict this couple as this kind of british success story. they iiiemseiwes— of british success story. they themselves claim to want to live wei— themselves claim to want to live iiieii wwiis. — themselves claim to want to live their truth. they— themselves claim to want to live their truth. they wanted a siiwaie— their truth. they wanted a private life.— their truth. they wanted a private life. so— their truth. they wanted a private life. so to speak. so of skew— private life. so to speak. so of course, they came— private life. so to speak. so of course, they came out with that five— course, they came out with that five. weiiiik— course, they came out with that five netflix documentary . five part netflix documentary. awa— five part netflix documentary. awe-assass— five part netflix documentary. and-course, they- five part netflix documentary. and course, they came out and of course, they came out wiiis —ssisasi. i and of course, they came out with _ podcast. so i and of course, they came outi with—podcast. so i with this spotify podcast. so i wink— with this spotify podcast. so i wink-iss— with this spotify podcast. so i think-it's the - with this spotify podcast. so i think it's the hypocrisy think really it's the hypocrisy wai— think really it's the hypocrisy iiiai geis— think really it's the hypocrisy that gets-yeah- think really it's the hypocrisy that gets yeah because that gets me. yeah because chaine— that gets me. yeah because ciaiiie, i— that gets me. yeah because charlie, i mean— that gets me. yeah because charlie, i mean benjamin, on his easies— charlie, i mean benjamin, on his easies-isasisaiw- charlie, i mean benjamin, on his point, basically saying point, they're basically saying , vou— point, they're basically saying , you kwsw— point, they're basically saying , you kwsw i— point, they're basically saying , you know, i don't understand why— , you know, i don't understand wiw-siiiisii— , you know, i don't understand why british people hate why the british people hate iiiese— why the british people hate iiiese-mwsii- why the british people hate these-much or. why the british people hate. these - much or why these people so much or why i awa— these people so much or why i and we— these people so much or why i and the british— these people so much or why i and the british people. e and the british people. but it is-eiiiisi— and the british people. but it is-british people- and the british people. but it is british people because is the british people because polling tells us this. but

actually it's the ingratitude right there was so much love and respect for this couple in the country at the time of the royal wedding that actually people feel a great sense of betrayal from harry. he was their prince us and they feel that actually he's, you know, turned around and said that this a racist country with a racist past colonial past and all the rest of it. and that's actually why people are delighted that actually it hasn't worked out for them. i think reading's right. it's the hypocrisy. you kwsw— right. it's the hypocrisy. you kwsw wais— right. it's the hypocrisy. you kwsw, iiis gaw— ” g“ it's the hypocrisy. you know, this guy, prince harry, vou— know, this guy, prince harry, you kwsw— know, this guy, prince harry, you kwsw was— know, this guy, prince harry, you know, was brilliant, iwiiiiawi— you know, was brilliant, brilliant institution . he comes brilliant institution. he comes ism— brilliant institution. he comes iism a— brilliant institution. he comes from a brilliant— brilliant institution. he comes from a brilliant institution, ewesewis— from a brilliant institution, represents the _ from a brilliant institution, represents the uk in all the besi— represents the uk in all the iesi waws. — represents the uk in all the best ways. but— represents the uk in all the best ways. but the hypocrisy of ieawiwa — best ways. but the hypocrisy of ieawiwa iiie — best ways. but the hypocrisy of leaving the family , wanting a leaving the family, wanting a siiwaie— leaving the family, wanting a siiwaie wie— leaving the family, wanting a private life, but— leaving the family, wanting a private life, but then eksisiiiwg- private life, but then exploiting the media just when it exploiting the media just when ii swis— exploiting the media just when is saws-awa— exploiting the media just when it suits and meghan to make it suits him. and meghan to make mswew— it suits him. and meghan to make mswewlas— it suits him. and meghan to make money-go-oprah- it suits him. and meghan to make money. go -oprah to - it suits him. and meghan to make money go oprah to do money to go on to oprah to do wines— money to go on to oprah to do iiiwas iss— money to go on to oprah to do things for netflix. _ money to go on to oprah to do things for netflix. and now not a—ssisasi,- things for netflix. and now not a—ssisasi, as- things for netflix. and now not a podcast, as we've a successful podcast, as we've iwsi— a successful podcast, as we've iwsi seen— a successful podcast, as we've just been listening to it is a area— just been listening to it is a area sakes-e— just been listening to it is a great shame. i— just been listening to it is a great shame. i think this guy a-assei— great shame. i think this guy was a -asset to - great shame. i think this guy was a asset to our country was a huge asset to our country ani— was a huge asset to our country awe-iwsi— was a huge asset to our country awe-iwsi-issil was a huge asset to our country awe-iwsi-issi. | and he's just extremely lost. can— and he's just extremely lost. cawlask— and he's just extremely lost. canlask because— and he's just extremely lost. canlask because i- and he's just extremely lost. canlask because i think- can i ask because i think there's a big diplomatic

question you question that this causes. you know, saw for example, know, you saw for example, barack obama didn't invite harry and to his 60th birthday, and meghan to his 60th birthday, which was seen as something of a hollywood snub. you spent what, five in government or five years in government or something special adviser. something as a special adviser. does make does this stuff make it difficult when government ministers asked about it ministers are asked about it because like it or not, they play because like it or not, they play a pretty sensitive role in relations the us uk relations between the us and uk . they do, and it's always that iaiawse— . they do, and it's always that balance-what- . they do, and it's always that balance -what-do . they do, and it's always that. balance -what-do as balance between what they do as a iamiiw— balance between what they do as a iamiiw wai— balance between what they do as a family that obviously as the seas— a family that obviously as the head si— a family that obviously as the head si sie— a family that obviously as the head of the nation, you know, sasssws— head of the nation, you know, swsssws wie— head of the nation, you know, supports the government. but aiss— supports the government. but aiss skew-we— supports the government. but also they've got— supports the government. but also they've got to protect themselves.— also they've got to protect themselves. they are a family aiiei— themselves. they are a family asses-awa— themselves. they are a family aiiei-awi ii— themselves. they are a family after-and itljust- themselves. they are a family after and it just an after all, and it is just an iwsieiiisiw— after all, and it is just an incredibly -thei after all, and it is just an. incredibly -the way incredibly sad story the way wai— incredibly sad story the way iiiai-iiiai— incredibly sad story the way that that they've upped that i think that they've upped siisks— that i think that they've upped siisks awa— that i think that they've upped sticks and gone— that i think that they've upped sticks and gone over to the sees.— sticks and gone over to the siaies. swi— sticks and gone over to the states. but as— sticks and gone over to the states. but as i— sticks and gone over to the states. but as i say, it's that iwsseiisw— states. but as i say, it's that iwsseiisw si— states. but as i say, it's that hypocrisy of trying to claim the wani— hypocrisy of trying to claim the wank-privacy,— hypocrisy of trying to claim the want . privacy, .yet - want for privacy, but yet eksisiiiwa— want for privacy, but yet exploiting the media at any given—because. exploiting the media at any- given_because alex, given opportunity because alex, reports— given opportunity because alex, sessiis ae— given opportunity because alex, reports are suggesting that asiwaiiw— reports are suggesting that asiwaiiw-asiwgl reports are suggesting that actually going to lay actually they are going to lay isw— actually they are going to lay isw-iiiew-ie— actually they are going to lay low-they're not- actually they are going to lay low they're not going to be low and they're not going to be isiwe— low and they're not going to be isiwe-ieii— low and they're not going to be isiwa-ieii aki— low and they're not going to be doing tell all books and doing the tell all books and iwiewiews— doing the tell all books and interviews and— doing the tell all books and interviews and podcasts and all the interviews and podcasts and all we resi— interviews and podcasts and all we aesi si— interviews and podcasts and all the rest of it. _ interviews and podcasts and all the rest of it. do— interviews and podcasts and all the rest of it. ji5i the rest of it. do you believe them? well, let's- the rest of it. do you believe them? well, let's see.- the rest of it. do you believe them? well, let's see. i- the rest of it. ji5i , well, let's see. i mean, them? well, let's see. i mean, i saw-i—

them? well, let's see. i mean, i ask imagine— them? well, let's see. i mean, i can't imagine what— , well, let's see. i mean, i can't imagine what else they've got can't imagine what else they've esi is — can't imagine what else they've gsi is saw— can't imagine what else they've gsi is say isw— can't imagine what else they've got to say now. but of course. wen,— got to say now. but of course. weii, i— got to say now. but of course. weii, i saw-i— got to say now. but of course. well, i can't imagine what else skew-we— well, i can't imagine what else skew-we asi— well, i can't imagine what else skew-we gsi is— well, i can't imagine what else they've got to do— well, i can't imagine what else they've got to do right the next issumewiaw— they've got to do right the next documentary will— they've got to do right the next documentary will about documentary will be about haw-s— documentary will be about haws-ia— documentary will be about harry's-in-and harry's trial in london and asiwaiiw— harry's trial in london and actually, - know, - harry's trial in london and actually, know, picking up actually, you know, picking up on actually, you know, picking up saws-ee iwsi- actually, you know, picking up on were just talking on what we were just talking assai— on what we were just talking asses-ii— on what we were just talking about-it-pretty- about then, it was pretty sisskiwa, — about then, it was pretty shocking, -it,- about then, it was pretty shocking, it, in that shocking, wasn't it, in that wiai— shocking, wasn't it, in that wiai-wsw- shocking, wasn't it, in that trial-you know,i shocking, wasn't it, in that. trial-you know, took shocking, wasn't it, in that- trial-you know, took to trial when he, you know, took to the trial when he, you know, took to we siawi— trial when he, you know, took to the stand .was _ trial when he, you know, took to the stand was basically the stand and was basically siaaaiwg— the stand and was basically siaggiwg sif— the stand and was basically slagging off the government of the slagging off the government of we sswwiw. — slagging off the government of the country. and— slagging off the government of the country. and think you the country. and you think you wake— the country. and you think you wave—is— the country. and you think you have—do that. - the country. and you think you have—do that. thisi have no right to do that. this is assai— have no right to do that. this is aiswi wsw. — have no right to do that. this is about you-is- have no right to do that. this is about you. is about is about you. this is about a grudge— is about you. this is about a grudge wsw-we— is about you. this is about a grudge you've got with the nwr-ssaepps — grudge you've got with the newspapers. started newspapers. but he started singing— newspapers. but he started. bringing _attacks bringing in sweeping attacks agaiwsi— bringing in sweeping attacks against-nation- bringing in sweeping attacks against nation itself. and against the nation itself. and i wink— against the nation itself. and i wink-where— against the nation itself. and ii think-where-harry think that is where prince harry swiieww— think that is where prince harry. swiieww—um, suddenly becomes a problem. um, isw— suddenly becomes a problem. um, issiis we— suddenly becomes a problem. um, issiis iie awa— suddenly becomes a problem. um, both he and meghan seem to have a ssii— both he and meghan seem to have a ssii si— both he and meghan seem to have a sort of messianic— both he and meghan seem to have a sort of messianic complex where—swas- a sort of messianic complex where—that theiri where they think that their msiaiiw— where they think that their morality everybody where they think that their morality are everybody where they think that their morality are quite erybody where they think that their morality are quite happyy else's and are quite happy isskiwa— else's and are quite happy looking down— else's and are quite happy looking down their nose, living in looking down their nose, living iw—mawsisw- looking down their nose, living in_mansion andi in their massive mansion and winking— in their massive mansion and winking-resi— in their massive mansion and thinking-rest of- in their massive mansion and thinking rest of the world thinking the rest of the world was— thinking the rest of the world was-asse— thinking the rest of the world has-done-some. thinking the rest of the world. has-done-some great has done done them some great iwiwsiise— has done done them some great iwiwsiise . — has done done them some great injustice . we're— has done done them some great injustice . we're-to- has done done them some great injustice . �*vw�*i5 ”i5; injustice. we're going to have to it there, but but i'm to leave it there, but but i'm sure you at home will be absolutely delighted at the thought them . well, sod not thought of them. well, sod not frankly, but there we are. that was a lively start. let's move on with our next topic. was a lively start. let's move on with our next topic . up next, on with our next topic. up next, making his debut on the show, it's charlie rowley and he has

set himself the small task of uniting a conservative party that's currently fighting like rats in a sack. charlie issue your rallying call . well, i your rallying call. well, i think it's fair— your rallying call. well, i think it's fair to- your rallying call. well, i think it's fair to say- “g {l well, i think it's fair to say that all iamiiies— think it's fair to say that all families rao— think it's fair to say that all families rao and the conservative party has been no different — conservative party has been no different. having— conservative party has been no different. having taken on some of different. having taken on some si te— different. having taken on some si the biggest— different. having taken on some of the biggest challenges our sswniw— of the biggest challenges our sswwtw iases— of the biggest challenges our country faces over the last 13 years— country faces over the last 13 years its— country faces over the last 13 years, it's obvious- country faces over the last 13 years, it's obvious that some of tasse— years, it's obvious that some of iisse rsies— years, it's obvious that some of those roles would _ years, it's obvious that some of those roles would spill out into the those roles would spill out into tire swiiis. — those roles would spill out into the public. but— those roles would spill out into the public. but i— those roles would spill out into the public. but i think it's irrssriarri— the public. but i think it's important to— the public. but i think it's important to recognise just what the conservatives— important to recognise just what the conservatives done the conservatives have done over the conservatives have done over tire-is— the conservatives have done over tie-is-awi— the conservatives have done over the-13-and what- the conservatives have done over the-13-and what it- the last 13 years and what it can .over the— the last 13 years and what it can .over the next- the last 13 years and what it can over the next five. under can do over the next five. under sawi— can do over the next five. under david cameron.— can do over the next five. under david cameron. took the david cameron. he took the iesisisw— david cameron. he took the iesisisrs is— david cameron. he took the decision to lead— david cameron. he took the decision to lead coalition decision to lead a coalition gswerrsrrerri— decision to lead a coalition government in— decision to lead a coalition government in national government in the national iwteresi. — government in the national interest. .dealt- government in the national interest. dealt with labour's interest. he dealt with labour's tests— interest. he dealt with labour's ieiis .— interest. he dealt with labour's ieiis . we— interest. he dealt with labour's ieiis . we ask— interest. he dealt with labour's debts . he got the— interest. he dealt with labour's debts . he got the country and debts. he got the country and the debts. he got the country and tire essrrsrrw— debts. he got the country and the economy moving took the economy moving and he took on the economy moving and he took as irre— the economy moving and he took as the saris— the economy moving and he took on the party delivering things iike— on the party delivering things like-marriage- on the party delivering things like-marriage .- on the party delivering things like marriage . he also like same sex marriage. he also srsrrrisei— like same sex marriage. he also promised-deliver— like same sex marriage. he also promised-deliver a- like same sex marriage. he also promised deliver a referendum promised to deliver a referendum wiser— promised to deliver a referendum wiser iireresa— promised to deliver a referendum under theresa may— promised to deliver a referendum under theresa may she identified that i— under theresa may she identified that i was— under theresa may she identified that it was those— under theresa may she identified that it was those just about managing— that it was those just about managing those people on low and miserie— managing those people on low and middle incomes— managing those people on low and middle incomes that needed sasssri. — middle incomes that needed sasssrr. sire— middle incomes that needed support. she identified that were— support. she identified that there-social- support. she identified that there social justice there was this social justice agenda— there was this social justice agenda-hadn't- there was this social justice agenda hadn't been tapped agenda that hadn't been tapped into agenda that hadn't been tapped irrislriris— agenda that hadn't been tapped into .this country,— agenda that hadn't been tapped into this country, was into in this country, and it was her— into in this country, and it was her-is—

into in this country, and it was her-toland- into in this country, and it was her-to.and deal. into in this country, and it was. her-to.and deal with her mission to try and deal with it. her mission to try and deal with is .afier— her mission to try and deal with is .arier a— her mission to try and deal with it. .after a divisive- her mission to try and deal with it. after a divisive eu it. but after a divisive eu referendum,— it. but after a divisive eu referendum, what she was able to do referendum, what she was able to islis— referendum, what she was able to islis-sarw— referendum, what she was able to do to party together do is to keep the party together . arri— do is to keep the party together . aria wiser— do is to keep the party together . and under boris,— do is to keep the party together . and under boris, the blonde ismisireii— . and under boris, the blonde bombshell that— . and under boris, the blonde bombshell that has got the ssiiiisai— bombshell that has got the political antennae that no one was— political antennae that no one has eer— political antennae that no one has ever been— political antennae that no one has ever been seen before, he's reasses— has ever been seen before, he's reasisei arss— has ever been seen before, he's reached across all— has ever been seen before, he's reached across all parts of the sswrrirw— reached across all parts of the sswrrirw-sirarrw— reached across all parts of the country charm, cheek, country the charm, the cheek, irre— country the charm, the cheek, tire aisiiiw— country the charm, the cheek, the ability to _ country the charm, the cheek, the ability to understand what ieweiiirra— the ability to understand what ieweiiirsg as— the ability to understand what levelling up meant for this sswrrirw— levelling up meant for this sswrrirwlrsii— levelling up meant for this country-roll-the- levelling up meant for this country roll the vaccine country to roll out the vaccine irrat— country to roll out the vaccine that- successful- country to roll out the vaccine that successful after that was so successful after cows,— that was so successful after coviis is— that was so successful after covm, to talk— that was so successful after covid, to talk tough to vladimir pairi— covid, to talk tough to vladimir iwiirr against— covid, to talk tough to vladimir putin against the— covid, to talk tough to vladimir putin against the actions that russia— putin against the actions that russia-taken— putin against the actions that russia taken against russia had taken against ukraine.— russia had taken against ukraine-part- russia had taken against ukraine. part of the ukraine. boris is part of the success of the— ukraine. boris is part of the success of the conservative iariw. — success of the conservative raw. wes— success of the conservative raw. we-s sari— success of the conservative party. he's part success party. he's part of the success of party. he's part of the success si iris— party. he's part of the success of this country— party. he's part of the success of this country and he will aiwaws— of this country and he will always remain— of this country and he will always remain part of the conservative— always remain part of the conservative family. have conservative family. we have a prime— conservative family. we have a prime minister— conservative family. we have a prime minister rishi sunak that is-determined_ prime minister rishi sunak that is-determined to- prime minister rishi sunak that is determined to lead us is now determined to lead us tirsweis— is now determined to lead us through challenges that we through the challenges that we face— through the challenges that we race—swarme- through the challenges that we| face _stopping the face in the future. stopping the smaii— face in the future. stopping the. smaii—esswsmw small boats, getting the economy moving,— small boats, getting the economy m0vin9r_backl09 moving, dealing with the backlog in moving, dealing with the backlog ire—musi— moving, dealing with the backlog ire—mast gei- moving, dealing with the backlog in must get behind in the nhs. we must get behind rim.— in the nhs. we must get behind irirr. i— in the nhs. we must get behind irirr. i krrsw— in the nhs. we must get behind him. i know boris— in the nhs. we must get behind him. i know boris will do that every— him. i know boris will do that every conservative in the sswwtw— every conservative in the sswwtw-is - every conservative in the- country - do - because if country will do that because if it's country will do that because if its saw— country will do that because if it's only united,— country will do that because if it's only united, that will the conservatives _ it's only united, that will the conservatives go _ it's only united, that will the conservatives go on to win the reki— conservatives go on to win the new aererai— conservatives go on to win the next general election and a win for next general election and a win isr tire— next general election and a win for the conservative will be a wiri— for the conservative will be a wire-great— for the conservative will be a win great country. win for this great country. war,— win for this great country. well, charlie— win for this great country. well, charlie ,_ win for this great country. well, charlie , i mean, stopping

well, charlie, i mean, stopping the well, charlie, i mean, stopping tire smaii— well, charlie, i mean, stopping the small boats— well, charlie, i mean, stopping the small boats ,_ well, charlie, i mean, stopping the small boats , a lot of my the small boats, a lot of my viewers will— the small boats, a lot of my viewers will be _ the small boats, a lot of my viewers will be sat seething at isme— viewers will be sat seething at irsrre sawing,— viewers will be sat seething at home saying, hang on a minute , home saying, hang on a minute, srsssirre— home saying, hang on a minute, srsssirrg rise— home saying, hang on a minute, stopping the boats. �*vw�*r5 95 stopping the boats. we've got isatisais— stopping the boats. we've got boatloads coming over just this weekend. well, boatloads coming over just this weekend . well, i think it's weekend. well, i think it's aissiwieiw— weekend. well, i think it's absolutely vital— : well, i think it's absolutely vital that with all the wedges— absolutely vital that with all the pledges and all the things that— the pledges and all the things that government— the pledges and all the things that government says, people can feel that government says, people can ieei sirarsae. — that government says, people can feel change. they— that government says, people can feel change. they can feel the difference — feel change. they can feel the difference. and— feel change. they can feel the difference. and i— feel change. they can feel the difference. and i think, look, we—iirsse- difference. and i think, look, we those numbers difference. and i think, look,- we-those numbers of we have seen those numbers of sessie— we have seen those numbers of sessie-swer— we have seen those numbers of sessie-swer iris- we have seen those numbers of people over into this people coming over into this sswrriw— people coming over into this sswrriw-iirar- people coming over into this. country-thatlwrong country illegally. that is wrong . sar— country illegally. that is wrong . iswi we— country illegally. that is wrong . iswi we take— country illegally. that is wrong . but we have a— country illegally. that is wrong . but we have a compassionate ssrrserwaiiwe— . but we have a compassionate conservative side.— . but we have a compassionate conservative side. you know, it is aissiwieiw— conservative side. you know, it is absolutely right to accept sessie— is absolutely right to accept sessie rrsrr — is absolutely right to accept people from afghanistan, from swea— people from afghanistan, from swia rrsrr — people from afghanistan, from syria, from ukraine, where there is—rirar- syria, from ukraine, where there is—iisai is- is war and conflict that is aissiwieiw— is war and conflict that is absolutely-our- is war and conflict that is absolutely our heart is war and conflict that is- absolutely-our heart and absolutely within our heart and our absolutely within our heart and sir-swi— absolutely within our heart and our-but-there- absolutely within our heart and our-but-there are. our dna. but where there are sessie— our dna. but where there are sessie-ssrriwe- our dna. but where there are people coming to this people that are coming to this sswrrirw— people that are coming to this sswwiw-wsw- people that are coming to this country-you have- people that are coming to this country you have to country illegally, you have to be determined— country illegally, you have to be determined and double down and-a...— be determined and double down and-than, frankly,- be determined and double down and than, frankly, any and do more than, frankly, any of and do more than, frankly, any si-siirer— and do more than, frankly, any of other conservative of the other conservative governments— governments and any other gswerwrrerri— governments and any other- aswerrrrrerri—isrre government previously has done iseisre— government previously has done isefsre, wirisis — government previously has done before, which being on before, which is being tough on aessriirra— before, which is being tough on deporting shouldn't deporting people who shouldn't be deporting people who shouldn't ire—sar- deporting people who shouldn't ire—ear makingl be in this country. but making sure—rise- be in this country. but makingi sure—rise sessie sure that you've got the people irrat— sure that you've got the people twat-rise — sure that you've got the people that the processing to that can do the processing to make— that can do the processing to make-sessie- that can do the processing to. make-people-do make sure that people that do ssme-sswwiw- make sure that people that do come _country are - make sure that people that do come country are not come into this country are not at come into this country are not ai-iseiresr— come into this country are not ai-iseiresi si— come into this country are not at-behest of the- come into this country are not at behest of the taxpayer at the behest of the taxpayer wrai— at the behest of the taxpayer that is— at the behest of the taxpayer that is spending— at the behest of the taxpayer that is spending 6 million on isiei— that is spending 6 million on hotel rooms. _ that is spending 6 million on hotel rooms. we— that is spending 6 million on hotel rooms. we need to sort all of

hotel rooms. we need to sort all answ— hotel rooms. we need to sort all si-sws swi— hotel rooms. we need to sort all si-sws iwi ai— hotel rooms. we need to sort all of-out, but at least- hotel rooms. we need to sort all of out, but at least it's of that out, but at least it's a sies— of that out, but at least it's a step-riski— of that out, but at least it's a step right direction. and step in the right direction. and i step in the right direction. and i—swwak— step in the right direction. and i—swwak is- step in the right direction. and i_sunak is the- step in the right direction. and i sunak is the only i think rishi sunak is the only war-s— i think rishi sunak is the only one that's been— i think rishi sunak is the only one that's been able grip it. one that's been able to grip it. aiex— one that's been able to grip it. aiex-wsw— one that's been able to grip it. alex you champing at the bit alex are you champing at the bit tiere— alex are you champing at the bit iiere rs— alex are you champing at the bit iiere rs gei— alex are you champing at the bit there to get in? _ alex are you champing at the bit there to get in? cj“ alex are you champing at the bit there to get in? o“ 15; there to get in? oh, charlie, charlie, charlie, such charlie, charlie, you're such a nice person. just getting on. i krrsw— nice person. just getting on. i know, isw— nice person. just getting on. i know, but im— nice person. just getting on. i know, but i'm afraid. - 5“ 95; 5“ just getting on. i know, but i'm afraid. i'm afraid.— know, but i'm afraid. i'm afraid. im— know, but i'm afraid. i'm afraid. i'm afraid. your. your hope the birds. isn't it hope is for the birds. isn't it a united conservative- :~;fr isn't it a united conservative party? csme— a united conservative party? csme-i— a united conservative party? csme-i-iise- come on. i mean, the conservatives- come on. i mean, the conservatives disagree conservatives i disagree with we.— conservatives i disagree with wsw. they— conservatives i disagree with we they rise-i— conservatives i disagree with you. they don't have a legacy. arri— you. they don't have a legacy. aria irre— you. they don't have a legacy. and the reason— you. they don't have a legacy. and the reason they don't have a ieeasw—aii— and the reason they don't have a legacy _ all they've - legacy is because all they've seen— legacy is because all they've seer-siawiwa- legacy is because all they've been playing parlour been doing is playing parlour games— been doing is playing parlour games arri— been doing is playing parlour games and faction fighting for 13 games and faction fighting for is-iwerw— games and faction fighting for is-iwew-wsw-rei games and faction fighting for 13 every you're on games and faction fighting for. 13-every-you're on a 13 years. every time you're on a rratesrsw— 13 years. every time you're on a rrateersw is— 13 years. every time you're on a trajectory to something, there's a-ieaiersisis- a change of leadership and a seawee— a change of leadership and a change-direction.- a change of leadership and a change direction. sometimes change of direction. sometimes wiiikks— change of direction. sometimes wiiikks-a— change of direction. sometimes himars-a half- change of direction. sometimes himars a half year, himars three and a half year, wrist—masks- himars three and a half year,| which—much, much which hasn't done much, much iawswrs—isasl which hasn't done much, muchi favours—has it? favours for our economy, has it? no favours for our economy, has it? ws—is— favours for our economy, has it? ws—is irwesi- favours for our economy, has it? ws—is irwesi irr- favours for our economy, has it? no_to invest in a. no one's going to invest in a sswrriw— no one's going to invest in a sswrsrw wiser— no one's going to invest in a country when you— no one's going to invest in a country when you don't even know was— country when you don't even know wiss tire — country when you don't even know who the chancellor— country when you don't even know who the chancellor one who the chancellor is from one day— who the chancellor is from one saw-next.— who the chancellor is from one saw-reki- wrai- who the chancellor is from one day-next. what i- who the chancellor is from one day next. what i think day to the next. what i think rreeis— day to the next. what i think needs is— day to the next. what i think needs to happen— day to the next. what i think needs to happen now, quite sieariw— needs to happen now, quite clearly conservative clearly is the conservative party— clearly is the conservative raw-ia- clearly is the conservative party for purpose party isn't fit for purpose in its-makers. - party isn't fit for purpose in its-makeup. it- party isn't fit for purpose in its-makeup. it to its current makeup. it needs to test— its current makeup. it needs to iwsi sieae— its current makeup. it needs to just cleave .two. - its current makeup. it needs to just cleave-two. it- its current makeup. it needs to just cleave two. it needs just cleave into two. it needs to just cleave into two. it needs is faster— just cleave into two. it needs is rsraei iris— just cleave into two. it needs to forget this broadchurch idea. iisse— to forget this broadchurch idea. those—believe- to forget this broadchurch idea. those—believe in. those who actually believe in sexis— those who actually believe in brexit,_actually- brexit, those who actually ieiiewe— brexit, those who actually. believe _ school, believe in proper old school, riski— believe in proper old school, riairi-iiesisgw- believe in proper old school, right ideology to right wing ideology come to resrrwi— right wing ideology come to reisrrr-ai— right wing ideology come to reform.-at least- right wing ideology come to reform. at least then voters reform. and at least then voters krrsw— reform. and at least then voters krrsw wrai— reform. and at least then voters know what they're _ reform. and at least then voters know what they're voting for.

ssri— know what they're voting for. ssri-iirse — know what they're voting for. soft-fine vote - know what they're voting for. soft fine vote the soft toryism fine vote the conservatives. _ soft toryism fine vote the conservatives. want soft toryism fine vote the conservatives. .want you conservatives. you want what you think— think is conservativism. vote resrrrei— think is conservativism. vote reform-_youl think is conservativism. vote- reform. _you vote. reform. at the moment you vote. irre— reform. at the moment you vote. rise—paris- reform. at the moment you vote. rise—paris isw- the conservative party. you rise-i— the conservative party. you isrr-i-wirai— the conservative party. you. don't-what-going the conservative party. you- don't-what-going to don't know what you're going to get.— don't know what you're going to get-is— don't know what you're going to get-is frankly- don't know what you're going to get-is frankly an- get. and that is frankly an insult— get. and that is frankly an insult to— get. and that is frankly an insult to democracy. the idea very— insult to democracy. the idea very quickly— insult to democracy. the idea very quickly that— insult to democracy. the idea very quickly that boris johnson is—teave- very quickly that boris johnson is—teave the- is ever going to leave the conservatives— is ever going to leave the conservatives join reform conservatives and join reform is to-back— conservatives and join reform is to-back-for- conservatives and join reform is to-back-for the - to quote, back atcha for the birds,— to quote, back atcha for the birds, because _ to quote, back atcha for the birds, because it's a shame. reform.— birds, because it's a shame. reform-in— birds, because it's a shame. reform,-in-thatl reform, reform in ukip that share can't share share ideas can't even share a platform so the idea platform together. so the idea that is somehow going to that boris is somehow going to go and jump to reform, i think that is of the that he is part of the conservative family. he's part of success country, of the success of this country, and continue to be and he's going to continue to be and he's going to continue to be a part of it. i mean, you know, i a part of it. i mean, you know, woman-t— a part of it. i mean, you know, uwoumn-t be— c i mean, you know, i wouldn't be surprised if a failed— i wouldn't be surprised if a failed politician— i wouldn't be surprised if a failed politician joined reform. i can— failed politician joined reform. i can it— failed politician joined reform. i call it regurgitate uk, frankly,— i call it regurgitate uk, frankly, because of frankly, because all of them have— frankly, because all of them have come back— frankly, because all of them have come back around in that partv- — have come back around in that party. _charue,- have come back around in that party. _charlie, you. party. but look, charlie, you know,— party. but look, charlie, you- know—probably know, i think you could probably fit-people— know, i think you could probably fit-people that- know, i think you could probably fit people that agree fit all the people that agree with— fit all the people that agree with-on— fit all the people that agree with .on-boat.l fit all the people that agree. with .on - boat. you with you on a small boat. you know,— with you on a small boat. you know, that-s— with you on a small boat. you know, that's how— with you on a small boat. you know, that's how few there are at this— know, that's how few there are at this stage.— know, that's how few there are at this stage. you— know, that's how few there are at this stage. you know, the conservative— at this stage. you know, the conservative party has been through— conservative party has been through-many— conservative party has been through many different through so many different versions-itself- through so many different versions itself the versions of itself in the last 13 versions of itself in the last 5—h.- versions of itself in the last 1s—to havel versions of itself in the last- 13_to have some 13 years. it seems to have some kind— 13 years. it seems to have some kind-personality— 13 years. it seems to have some kind personality disorder kind of personality disorder because— kind of personality disorder because u— kind of personality disorder because it can't— kind of personality disorder because it can't make its mind up because it can't make its mind .p_mome.e- because it can't make its mind .p_mome.e ee- because it can't make its mind up _moment to the l because it can't make its mind up moment to the next. up from one moment to the next. anu— up from one moment to the next. and-whee— up from one moment to the next. and _what-sick- up from one moment to the next. and _what-sick of. and actually, what i'm sick of end— and actually, what i'm sick of uuuluuuk— and actually, what i'm sick of uuuluuuk-ef- and actually, what i'm sick of andithink-of and- and actually, what i'm sick of

and think of and this is and i think a lot of and this is why— and i think a lot of and this is why rm— and i think a lot of and this is why um sue— and i think a lot of and this is why i'm sure agree with our why i'm sure i'd agree with our own-bombshell.- why i'm sure i'd agree with our own bombshell. i'm sick own blonde bombshell. i'm sick of own blonde bombshell. i'm sick ef-psueueurumu— own blonde bombshell. i'm sick of psychodrama running the of their psychodrama running the country—sues- of their psychodrama running the country-ideas and- country instead of ideas and policies — country instead of ideas and policies. _though. country instead of ideas and policies. though they policies. and even though they ween-u— policies. and even though they uereu-u—feu- policies. and even though they weren't—for, whati weren't what i voted for, what menu—eeuuuul weren't what i voted for, what- many_country voted many people in the country voted for ,_ many people in the country voted for lemu— many people in the country voted for ,-know, even— many people in the country voted for , know, even when liz for, you know, even when liz uuss— for, you know, even when liz truss came into— for, you know, even when liz truss came into office and she heu— truss came into office and she has eu— truss came into office and she use an nus— truss came into office and she had all this-set- truss came into office and she had all this set ideas had all this new set of ideas enu— had all this new set of ideas euuluus— had all this new set of ideas andlwas like,— had all this new set of ideas and was like, well, actually and it was like, well, actually menu— and it was like, well, actually many-those— and it was like, well, actually many .those _the. and it was like, well, actually. many-those-the ones many of those weren't the ones uses—fer— many of those weren't the ones that—for three- many of those weren't the ones that for three years that were voted for three years eurueu — that were voted for three years eurueu .now_ that were voted for three years earlier. .now we've- that were voted for three years earlier. now we've got earlier. and now we've got a whole— earlier. and now we've got a unete ne— earlier. and now we've got a whole new set— earlier. and now we've got a whole new set with rishi sunak. you whole new set with rishi sunak. veu den-n— whole new set with rishi sunak. you don't deserve— whole new set with rishi sunak. you don't deserve to in you don't deserve to be in government— you don't deserve to be in government. you're dismissed effecting— affecting this country. but i just— affecting this country. but i use appen— affecting this country. but i just appeal people. just appeal to people. look, the psychodrama changes psychodrama and the tory changes of you know, it hasn't of leader, you know, it hasn't been helpful of course been helpful at all. of course it's been for people, it's been chaotic for people, but about the and but it is about the ideas and it's delivery. but it's it's about delivery. but it's also able to adapt. and so also being able to adapt. and so when you can confront the challenges face, challenges that you face, you can still a traditional vote can be still a traditional vote blue go conservative. you blue go green, conservative. you can about environment. can care about the environment. you for cleaning up the you can care for cleaning up the air clearing out those. just air and clearing out those. just stop blight stop oil protesters that blight the so many people in the lives of so many people in society. you can absolutely take on exploit the on brexit and exploit the positives it while still positives of it while still being the stage. you being on the global stage. you can you can invest in can level up, you can invest in the as as being a low the uk as well as being a low tax conservative. all of these

things are possible. it's not a binary choice. if they're possible, — binary choice. if they're possible,-hasn't- possible, why hasn't the conservatives - possible, why hasn't the conservatives of conservatives been doing any of enem— conservatives been doing any of nnenlnne— conservatives been doing any of them-the puss— conservatives been doing any of them .the past 13— conservatives been doing any of them the past 13 years? you them for the past 13 years? you knew,— them for the past 13 years? you know, . definitely _ them for the past 13 years? you know, definitely about the know, it definitely is about the mess. — know, it definitely is about the mess. anu— know, it definitely is about the ideas. and we— know, it definitely is about the ideas. and we saw- know, it definitely is about the ideas. ' z know, it definitely is about the ideas. ' 2 “2 ideas. and we saw this kind of identity politics. i don't want to i will to call it a psychodrama. i will call it a identity crisis. i mean, the conservative party in government at the moment, we've got highest burden got the highest tax burden since the world we the second world war. we actually taxes under actually had lower taxes under the governments the labour governments of tony blair gordon so blair and gordon brown. so i think that fundamentally it's this we need to this identity crisis. we need to have conversations about have these conversations about the otherwise party the ideas. otherwise the party seems be in no seems to be going in no direction. i mean to be direction. well i mean to be fair, lower fair, taxes were only lower under tony because he under tony blair because he inherited very good economy inherited a very good economy after tories had it after the tories had sorted it out. afteri after the tories had sorted it out. after i think people nusneu— out. after i think people trashed it. _ out. after i think people trashed it. ithink- after i think people trashed it. out. after i think people- trashed it. ithink that's a bit trashed it. i think that's a bit ridiculous given that the economy than ever economy grew faster than ever for years. yes, thanks to for ten years. yes, thanks to a...— for ten years. yes, thanks to the conservatives— cl" $23“; yes, thanks to the conservatives sorting cl" ace“; yes, thanks to the conservatives sorting all the conservatives sorting it all eun— the conservatives sorting it all sun. i— the conservatives sorting it all sun. i mean— the conservatives sorting it all out. i mean the— the conservatives sorting it all out. i mean the libertarian snuu— out. i mean the libertarian small state— out. i mean the libertarian small state policy tax small state policy is tax and spend— small state policy is tax and. spend—nun spend hasn't exactly done that at spend hasn't exactly done that en snis— spend hasn't exactly done that en nnis une— spend hasn't exactly done that at this time round, are they? l, at this time round, are they? ., a— at this time round, are they? n i would— at this time round, are they? i, i would accept— at this time round, are they? i, i would accept that.- at this time round, are they? i, i would accept that. i- at this time round, are they? 2 ” i would i, i would accept that. i would totally i, i would accept that. i would nenuuy accept— i, i would accept that. i would totally accept that— totally accept that conservatives can't keep dining out conservatives can't keep dining sun-manganes— conservatives can't keep dining out margaret thatcher. “an out on margaret thatcher. they just sent— out on margaret thatcher. they just cant keep— out on margaret thatcher. they just can't keep doing that. that was 40 years now.

was almost 40 years ago now. i've a feeling everyone at i've got a feeling everyone at none—tnetnl home is screaming at their tetevtstens— home is screaming at their televisions-i- home is screaming at their televisions i think televisions and i think cnunte-s— televisions and i think charlie's that charlie's been practising that one-untte. — charlie's been practising that one-while. so- charlie's been practising that one while. so well done. one for a while. so well done. stu— one for a while. so well done. stttt te— one for a while. so well done. still to come— one for a while. so well done. still to come tonight, i will aenttu— still to come tonight, i will aentty exptutn— still to come tonight, i will gently explain why need gently explain why we don't need free prescriptions— gently explain why we don't need free prescriptions for over free prescriptions for the over ess— free prescriptions for the over ens-ts— free prescriptions for the over ses-ts venet- free prescriptions for the over 60s is vexed about 60s and lex is vexed about tunaenus— 60s and lex is vexed about dangerous dogs— 60s and lex is vexed about dangerous dogs causing chaos. but dangerous dogs causing chaos. nut next,— dangerous dogs causing chaos. nut next, we-ne— dangerous dogs causing chaos. but next, we're going to hear about— but next, we're going to hear about-britain's- but next, we're going to hear about britain's nanny state about why britain's nanny state gees— about why britain's nanny state gees-tun— about why britain's nanny state gees-tun .— about why britain's nanny state gees-tun . ves— about why britain's nanny state goes-far . yes, it's- about why britain's nanny state goes far. yes, it's almost goes too far. yes, it's almost ttne— goes too far. yes, it's almost ttne te— goes too far. yes, it's almost ttne te twe— goes too far. yes, it's almost time to live the— goes too far. yes, it's almost time to live the dream. you're wttn— time to live the dream. you're wttn tne— time to live the dream. you're with the saturday— time to live the dream. you're with the saturday five live on

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immigration and lower taxes. and like every conservative, he gave us the opposite . but charlie us the opposite. but charlie said the conservatives will stop the boats. how is that going ? the boats. how is that going? well. good point. up next, tneuan— well. good point. up next, tneuan tt-s— well. good point. up next, though, it's time- tutti“ good point. up next, though, it's time to ask if the nanny— though, it's time to ask if the nunnw state— though, it's time to ask if the nanny state is— though, it's time to ask if the nanny state is taking over our twes— nanny state is taking over our twes .— nanny state is taking over our twes . ves— nanny state is taking over our lives . yes, folks,— nanny state is taking over our lives . yes, folks, it's time for lives. yes, folks, it's time for us to— lives. yes, folks, it's time for us to twe — lives. yes, folks, it's time for us to live the _ lives. yes, folks, it's time for us to live the dream . “a““y us to live the dream. the nanny state— us to live the dream. the nanny state ts— us to live the dream. the nanny state is unfortunate , slowly state is unfortunate, slowly taking over britain . in just taking over britain. in just this week, the government were forced to drop plans to ban our buy one, get one free supermarket deals . that's right. supermarket deals. that's right. the government came for your tobacco. they came for alcohol and they came for food and drinks. and now they're coming for your supermarket deals. now, this is despite the government's own projections from public health england back in 2015 that this policy would cost £600 a year to the average household. that will is including the fact that these these kind of deals will actually only reduce calorie consumption by about four calories. now, that's the amount of about a grape. now is this grape actually worth a

increase in £600 a year to your food costs now? i don't think so . fundamentally, what we've seen here is the government have continued to try and increase the amount of control that they have on your lifestyle . well, have on your lifestyle. well, now, not everybody agrees with me . albee isn't here this week me. albee isn't here this week on the panel , me. albee isn't here this week on the panel, but he has also tweeted, continuously tweeting all of that rubbish and also said that actually he is very supportive. let's take a look . supportive. let's take a look. he says that people are seriously behaving like only being able to buy one 100 gram of haribo gummy bears for £1.25 instead of nine on sale. kyrees on the screen on the certain days of the week where they have the buy one, get one free deals with 480g of apples of tesco's as well. i can't read the rest of it. i've got my glasses. but we have we have seen here i'll be as an example of a of a particular individual that is actually supportive of actually quite supportive of these kind of schemes. effectively government effectively it's the government taking over your lives. now we've not only on buy

we've seen not only just on buy one, one free, but on one, get one free, but also on planning regulation action. so michael gove and also chris whitty have also said that they're going to be using planning regulations in order to try and cut down obesity. so we've seen a new castle where our lovely darren grimes is originally from. they've actually restricted the amount of papa john's pizza places that they are going to be able to build in newcastle. fundamentally this is about them taking over our lives. we've seen this month with the nanny state index published by the institute of economic affairs that the united kingdom is one of the most authority korean governments in europe when it comes to nannying. now we can see from graph here that see from the graph here that actually we are pretty good when it comes to vaping. but when it comes tobacco, are the comes to tobacco, we are the worst europe to worst country in europe to smoke. everybody else. what smoke. so everybody else. what do you think about the way that the government have sort of been able nanny the state? darren, able to nanny the state? darren, do think that i'm worrying do you think that i'm worrying about nothing? at of about nothing? well at risk of rip really anger and alex philip

yes i think actually we are too much of a nanny state. i do think that actually- ti“ “ta““y i do think that actually allow “i“ “a““ i do think that actually allow young peante— think that actually allow young peapte ta— think that actually allow young peapte to n— think that actually allow young peapte ta tt wou— think that actually allow young people to if you want to be a fat people to if you want to be a tat stat,— people to if you want to be a tat stat, wou— people to if you want to be a fat slob, you should be able to be a— fat slob, you should be able to be a tat— fat slob, you should be able to be a tat stat.— fat slob, you should be able to be a fat slob. and— fat slob, you should be able to be a fat slob. and we always tast— be a fat slob. and we always come back to— be a fat slob. and we always come back to this argument that moving-— come back to this argument that was moving. that— come back to this argument that was moving. that was the most it's was moving. that was the most tt-s wnat— was moving. that was the most tt-s wnat tt-s— was moving. that was the most it's what it's what— was moving. that was the most it's what it's what people die tan— it's what it's what people die for. mandela— it's what it's what people die for. mandela and— it's what it's what people die for. mandela and i think utttnatetw— for. mandela and i think ultimately this argument keeps sawtna— ultimately this argument keeps sawtna, wett— ultimately this argument keeps sawtna, wett ,— ultimately this argument keeps sawtna, wett , vou— ultimately this argument keeps saying, well , you need to do saying, well, you need to do tnts— saying, well, you need to do we tan— saying, well, you need to do we tan tne— saying, well, you need to do this for the nhs.— saying, well, you need to do this for the nhs. boris actually in this for the nhs. boris actually tn nts— this for the nhs. boris actually tn nts tast— this for the nhs. boris actually in his first daily— this for the nhs. boris actually in his first daily mail column tataw— in his first daily mail column tataw wnate — in his first daily mail column today, wrote about wegovy , which today, wrote about wegovy, which is today, wrote about wegovy, which ts tnts— today, wrote about wegovy, which ts tnts tat— today, wrote about wegovy, which ts tnts tat tnat— today, wrote about wegovy, which is this jab that you— today, wrote about wegovy, which is this jab that you jab in waunsett— is this jab that you jab in waunsett tn— is this jab that you jab in yourself in order to make you nat— yourself in order to make you not nave— yourself in order to make you not nave sa— yourself in order to make you not have so much— yourself in order to make you not have so much of an appetite ant— not have so much of an appetite ant tase— not have so much of an appetite and lose weight.— not have so much of an appetite and lose weight. now to me, he says— and lose weight. now to me, he says tnat— and lose weight. now to me, he says tnat tnat— and lose weight. now to me, he says that that didn't work for wn— says that that didn't work for ntn. ant— says that that didn't work for ntn. ant t— says that that didn't work for him. and i thought, oh, really? cauttn-t— him. and i thought, oh, really? couldn't tell. _ him. and i thought, oh, really? couldn't tell. and— him. and i thought, oh, really? couldn't tell. and boris aetuattw— couldn't tell. and boris actually says,- couldn't tell. and boris actually says, you know, it nasn-t— actually says, you know, it hasn't worked— actually says, you know, it hasn't worked for him, but we need— hasn't worked for him, but we need ta— hasn't worked for him, but we need ta ta— hasn't worked for him, but we need to do this— hasn't worked for him, but we need to do this for the nhs. tnat-s— need to do this for the nhs. tnat-s wnat— need to do this for the nhs. that's what people always say . i that's what people always say. i tan-t— that's what people always say. i tan-t twe— that's what people always say. i tan-t ttwe tan— that's what people always say. i don't live for the— that's what people always say. i don't live for the nhs , as you don't live for the nhs, as you knew,— don't live for the nhs, as you knew tn— don't live for the nhs, as you knew t-n nat— don't live for the nhs, as you know, i'm not a— don't live for the nhs, as you know, i'm not a slave to the nus,— know, i'm not a slave to the nus, sa— know, i'm not a slave to the nus, sa tn— know, i'm not a slave to the nhs, so i'm sick— know, i'm not a slave to the nhs, so i'm sick of this

argument— nhs, so i'm sick of this argument . — nhs, so i'm sick of this argument . it- nhs, so i'm sick of this argument . c 2 nhs, so i'm sick of this argument . c ”tit; nhs, so i'm sick of this— argument . it does feel as though argument. it does feel as though argument. it does feel as though a lot of the government's sort of public health policies are centred around the fact that we have a socialised health care system. now. benjamin, i suspect you that actually what you disagree that actually what do think about the nhs and do you think about the nhs and socialised in terms socialised health care in terms of look at of the way that we look at pubuc of the way that we look at public policy? well, mean, public policy? well, i mean, ute— public policy? well, i mean, like-rational— public policy? well, i mean, like-rational-i. like all rational people, i agree— like all rational people, i agree wttn— like all rational people, i agree with concept of the agree with the concept of the nus. — agree with the concept of the nhs.-obviously- agree with the concept of the nhs. obviously disagree. but nhs. you obviously disagree. but but nhs. you obviously disagree. but tut—t— nhs. you obviously disagree. but tut—t tntnt- nhs. you obviously disagree. but tut—t tntnt wel but look, you know, i think we nave— but look, you know, i think we nave aet— but look, you know, i think we nave eat ta— but look, you know, i think we nawe eat to a— but look, you know, i think we have got to a situation in this country— have got to a situation in this country-a— have got to a situation in this eauntw-a tat- have got to a situation in this country-a lot of- country whereby a lot of food nas— country whereby a lot of food nas a— country whereby a lot of food has a complete— country whereby a lot of food has a complete makeup has a complete different makeup of has a complete different makeup at tnanettents— has a complete different makeup of ingredients to _ has a complete different makeup of ingredients to what would of ingredients to what you would nave— of ingredients to what you would nave-teeates- of ingredients to what you would have-decades ago.- have got a few decades ago. tnew-ne— have got a few decades ago. tnew-ne tutt— have got a few decades ago. they're full of— have got a few decades ago. they're full of salt, they're tutt— they're full of salt, they're tutt at— they're full of salt, they're full of sugar,— they're full of salt, they're full of sugar, and that's intentional— full of sugar, and that's intentional food intentional on the part of food statuses— intentional on the part of food producers because those things get-atttetet. — producers because those things get-addicted. i— producers because those things get addicted. i think of get you addicted. i can think of ttnes—tnaw- get you addicted. i can think of times—know, i- get you addicted. i can think of times—know, i havei get you addicted. i can think ofi times—know, i have a times where, you know, i have a wenanatt-s— times where, you know, i have a mcdonald's and— times where, you know, i have a mcdonald's and i— times where, you know, i have a mcdonald's and i want to mcdonald's and i really want to go mcdonald's and i really want to 90 tast— mcdonald's and i really want to 90 tact .— mcdonald's and i really want to 90 back . tnene— mcdonald's and i really want to go back . there something in go back. there is something in were— go back. there is something in tnene-ntawtna- go back. there is something in there playing havoc with there that is playing havoc with my there that is playing havoc with nw-otawe— there that is playing havoc with mv-okav? tt-s— there that is playing havoc with my-okay? it's not- there that is playing havoc with my okay? it's not like my mind. okay? it's not like nawna— my mind. okay? it's not like nawna sane— my mind. okay? it's not like having some fruit and so the mea— having some fruit and so the ttea tnat— having some fruit and so the idea that the— having some fruit and so the idea that the state should try ant— idea that the state should try and encourage— idea that the state should try and encourage people or take away— and encourage people or take away we— and encourage people or take away the incentives to get nested— away the incentives to get tested an — away the incentives to get hooked on these foods which are tattna— hooked on these foods which are taking advantage— hooked on these foods which are taking advantage of us, i think tnat-s— taking advantage of us, i think was autte— taking advantage of us, i think that's quite reasonable . that that's quite reasonable. that wautt— that's quite reasonable. that would encourage people to make better—na—

would encourage people to make better—do-really| better decisions. do you really think that british people think that the british people are too thick to understand what's going in their their what's going in their down their own i think that no. own gobs? no i think that no. what is that the people what i think is that the people tnat— what i think is that the people tnat mate— what i think is that the people that make haribo— what i think is that the people that make haribo mcdonald's that make haribo or mcdonald's or that make haribo or mcdonald's an-enteten— that make haribo or mcdonald's or-chicken all- that make haribo or mcdonald's or chicken all things or the fried chicken all things tnat— or the fried chicken all things tnat-tw— or the fried chicken all things tnat-tw-waw- or the fried chicken all things tnat-tw-waw t- or the fried chicken all things that by way, i think that eat, by the way, i think tnew-ne— that eat, by the way, i think they're-enough- that eat, by the way, i think they're enough to know they're clever enough to know to get us— they're clever enough to know to get us nested— they're clever enough to know to get us hooked and— they're clever enough to know to get us hooked and buy one, get one-ant— get us hooked and buy one, get one-and offers— get us hooked and buy one, get one and offers that one free and offers like that ate-tnetn— one free and offers like that are-their job- one free and offers like that are-their job for- one free and offers like that are their job for them. are doing their job for them. tnat-s— are doing their job for them. tnat-s-we— are doing their job for them. that's-we need. - are doing their job for them. that's we need. [1 are doing their job for them. - that's-we need. graeme le that's what we need. graeme le saut— that's what we need. graeme le saux na— that's what we need. graeme le saux do you think it's worth the increase in £600 a year for your food bills? but of course it's nat— food bills? but of course it's not necessarily— food bills? but of course it's not necessarily - a - 2 7 but of course it's not necessarily a year not necessarily £600 a year because—that- not necessarily £600 a yeari because _that you because the idea is that you enante— because the idea is that you change-habits,- because the idea is that you change habits, right? and change your habits, right? and aetuattw— change your habits, right? and aetuattw you — change your habits, right? and actually, you food prices actually, you know, food prices nave—tn- actually, you know, food prices nave—tn tnts- have have gone up in this country— have have gone up in this country-t- have have gone up in this country-i think. have have gone up in this- country-i think people country already. i think people wtt— country already. i think people will—healthierl will do better to eat healthier tnan— will do better to eat healthier tnan-tnet— will do better to eat healthier than-tried and- will do better to eat healthier than tried and torn into than to be tried and torn into tatnt— than to be tried and torn into tatnt — than to be tried and torn into tatna ate— than to be tried and torn into doing so. are you- than to be tried and torn into doing so. ' ”ti; “g doing so. are you saying it's going to work for you were banned. buy one, get one free and you'll eating the and you'll stop eating all the crap you've just said you crap that you've just said you do. clearly. actually will do. clearly. actually you will tust— do. clearly. actually you will just-unse— do. clearly. actually you will just-price. what- t2t:::t clearly. actually you will just price. what i'll just pay the price. what i'll pay— just pay the price. what i'll pay-for— just pay the price. what i'll paylfor-jab- just pay the price. what i'll pay-for-jab that- just pay the price. what i'll pay for jab that boris pay is for that jab that boris tannsan— pay is for that jab that boris johnson was. _ pay is for that jab that boris johnson was. �*ftt�*tzgc pay is for that jab that boris johnson was. well, i'm look, i'm partial to a piece of pizza every now and again, but i think there two things here. there are two things here. it's about of food and it's about the cost of food and it's about the cost of food and it's about cost of living. and

about the cost of living. and sometimes it is that those unhealthy foods are cheaper and more who more accessible for people who clearly incomes clearly are on lower incomes will those to help with will go to those to help with the cost of living rather than more healthy foods. we to more healthy foods. we need to address think address that balance. i think that's thing. but that's the first thing. but i think second thing is in the think the second thing is in the case of papa john's, you know, it isn't the case that i think there is someone, michael gove perhaps the perhaps sort of sitting at the desk big map and saying desk with a big map and saying that can ahead that that can go ahead or that shouldn't be or you should that can go ahead or that shouldiwalk or you should that can go ahead or that shouldiwalk with. or you should that can go ahead or that shouldiwalk with. youvou should that can go ahead or that shouldiwalk with. you know,ould have a walk with. you know, i think this local authority in newcastle it was newcastle or wherever it was decided they didn't want decided that they didn't want a papa area. it papa john's in their area. it was local, planning was local, the local planning authority, local councillors decided it decided they didn't want it because would because they thought that would because they thought that would be community be detrimental to the community because it was near a school and they didn't parents they didn't want the parents buying for kids on buying pizza for their kids on the home. when you could buying pizza for their kids on the a home. when you could buying pizza for their kids on the a healthy when you could buying pizza for their kids on the a healthy alternative.ould have a healthy alternative. because think if because i think ultimately if you a of you do have a string of unhealthy kids and society unhealthy kids and a society as we becomes we are becoming, that becomes more a burden the nhs in more of a burden in the nhs in the term. so it's about the long term. so it's about making sure that local people decide or not decide what should be in or not their communities, but making sure of living sure that the cost of living is fair everybody. yeah, want fair for everybody. yeah, i want to in a fair for everybody. yeah, i want| to_in a moment, to hear from alex in a moment, tut— to hear from alex in a moment, but—fundamentallyl but i think that fundamentally wnat—

but i think that fundamentally. wnat—tnese what you're saying is that these ptanntnt— planning regulators know better tnan— planning regulators know better than _themselves. - planning regulators know better than themselves. i than parents themselves. now, i tettewe— believe that actually parents are believe that actually parents. ate—wnat are clever enough to know what goes— are clever enough to know what goes-councillors. i goes into local councillors. estat— goes into local councillors. local councillors— goes into local councillors. local councillors that- goes into local councillors. local councillors that voted against it, and they're democratically the democratically elected by the local we local people. they did. and we knew— local people. they did. and we knew-at— local people. they did. and we know _of those - know that a lot of those ptanntnt— know that a lot of those- planning-actually planning regulators actually are nannwtnt— nannying themselves. i mean, tnew-we—tnat- nannying themselves. i mean, they've—that it'si they've actually said that it's tne— they've actually said that it's tne nttn— they've actually said that it's tne nan-at— they've actually said that it's the high of obesity the high levels of obesity in weweastte— the high levels of obesity in wewttaettnt— the high levels of obesity in nev blocking planning the blocking of that planning neautattan. — the blocking of that planning regulation. mean, alex, what regulation. i mean, alex, what do regulation. i mean, alex, what to_atesttw— regulation. i mean, alex, what to_atesttwla- do you think obesity is a massive problem, metabolic swntnane— syndrome is a huge cost to statew— syndrome is a huge cost to sastetw . — syndrome is a huge cost to seetetw . tt-s— syndrome is a huge cost to society . it's the- syndrome is a huge cost to society . c “ syndrome is a huge cost to- society . it's the reason why we society. it's the reason why we had covid a had so many covid deaths for a start. buti had so many covid deaths for a start. but i think what the government— start. but i think what the government get— but i think what the government get you start. but i think what the- government get-you know, government get wrong, you know, nesstnt—teti messing about with buy one, get one—tnat— messing about with buy one, get one—tnat tees- one free, i mean that does natntnt. — one free, i mean that does nothing. forget- one free, i mean that does nothing. 3 c nothing. forget it. that is just, know, stupid just, you know, stupid window dressing actually dressing policy when actually what is the big food what you have is the big food industry essentially operates like big tobacco. they are just as evil. they're just as cunning, and they know exactly what they're doing and they are essentially people. essentially killing people. now, might sound quite now, that might sound quite etree— now, that might sound quite etee ta— now, that might sound quite extreme to you,— now, that might sound quite extreme to you, but when you tntnt— extreme to you, but when you tntnt-wnen— extreme to you, but when you think when people go to the think that when people go to the supermarket— think that when people go to the supermarket and— think that when people go to the supermarket and buy you supermarket and buy food, you expect,— expect, well, it's passed food, nwatene— expect, well, it's passed food, nwatene tests— expect, well, it's passed food, hygiene tests safety hygiene tests and safety standards,— hygiene tests and safety standards, me standards, this is safe for me to_a— standards, this is safe for me ta-a tat— standards, this is safe for me ta-a tat at- standards, this is safe for me to-a lot of it,- to eat. but a lot of it, frankly, isn't lot ultra frankly, isn't. a lot of ultra processed linked now to processed food is linked now to an colon cancers in an increase in colon cancers in people under 40. and actually,

wnen— people under 40. and actually, wnen vou— people under 40. and actually, wnen you saw— people under 40. and actually, wnen you saw, an— a “t2i” ”0 and actually, when you say, oh, parents 2�*211�*1” ”0 and actually, when you say, oh, parents are newer— when you say, oh, parents are severt enautn— when you say, oh, parents are clever enough know actually clever enough to know actually are clever enough to know actually tneve — clever enough to know actually are they? because— clever enough to know actually are they? i i“ git are they? because when they go into supermarket with their into the supermarket with their kids their kids see all the kids and their kids see all the lovely created lovely breakfast cereals created for think for children, most parents think this this cereal this is fine. this is a cereal created children when it is created for children when it is laden, in with sugar, laden, laden in with sugar, which then has an impact on the way children behave. and so on and forth. their attention . and so forth. their attention. and if, you know, parents are unwttttnatv— and if, you know, parents are unwittingly enabling their entttren— unwittingly enabling their children-fat- unwittingly enabling their children fat because children to get fat because astuattw— children to get fat because actuallyv na— children to get fat because actually, no, a— children to get fat because actually, no, a of people actually, no, a lot of people tan-t— actually, no, a lot of people don't realise _ actually, no, a lot of people don't realise-this- actually, no, a lot of people don't realise this how don't realise and this is how sunntnt— don't realise and this is how cunning-food— don't realise and this is how cunning food are. “tiyt 2 cunning big food are. they sold us tact— cunning big food are. they sold us tact tn— cunning big food are. they sold us back in the 70s and 80s. the low fat diets. they said if we ate animal fats, this is bad for us. we'd get fat and we'd have neart— us. we'd get fat and we'd have neart attaets. — us. we'd get fat and we'd have heart attacks. the— we'd get fat and we'd have heart attacks. the opposite is true.— heart attacks. the opposite is true-lneattnv— heart attacks. the opposite is true. healthy amount of animal true. a healthy amount of animal fat true. a healthy amount of animal tat twes— true. a healthy amount of animal fat lowers cholesterol , and the fat lowers cholesterol, and the taw— fat lowers cholesterol, and the tawlnratuets— fat lowers cholesterol, and the low. products were - fat lowers cholesterol, and the low products were all again low fat products were all again taeet— low fat products were all again taeet wttn— low fat products were all again laced with sugar. _ low fat products were all again laced with sugar. that made laced with sugar. and that made us tat.— laced with sugar. and that made us tat. ant— laced with sugar. and that made us fat. and what— laced with sugar. and that made us fat. and what are they doing new—pusntna.- us fat. and what are they doing. now—pushing, pushing, now? they're pushing, pushing, pushing veganism. good the pushing veganism. good for the environment, good for your health, frankly, ultra processed , meat rubbish is bad for , meat free rubbish is bad for both. imean, , meat free rubbish is bad for both. i mean, there we are. wett— both. i mean, there we are. we-tt ent— both. i mean, there we are. we-tt ent tt— both. i mean, there we are. we'll end it.an- i mean, there we are. we'll end it an anti vegan we'll end it on an anti vegan note— we'll end it on an anti vegan nate .— we'll end it on an anti vegan nate .|tntnt— we'll end it on an anti vegan

note .ithink that's- we'll end it on an anti vegan note . think that's a perfect note. i think that's a perfect ttne— note. i think that's a perfect ttne ta— note. i think that's a perfect ttne ta ent— note. i think that's a perfect time to end it.— note. i think that's a perfect time to end it. still ahead, tnautn— time to end it. still ahead, though, unfortunately, benjamin , tett— though, unfortunately, benjamin , tett us— though, unfortunately, benjamin , tett us wnv— though, unfortunately, benjamin , tell us why actually people wa-ven— , tell us why actually people who've worked— , tell us why actually people who've worked all their lives or the who've worked all their lives or tne arve— who've worked all their lives or tne so — who've worked all their lives or the over 60 that— who've worked all their lives or the over 60 that is— who've worked all their lives or the over 60 that is are not snauttn-t— the over 60 that is are not shouldn't be— the over 60 that is are not shouldn't be entitled to free presertpttans— shouldn't be entitled to free prescriptions but coming up next,— prescriptions but coming up next, teat-s— prescriptions but coming up next, lexi's vexed about dogs attaettnt— next, lexi's vexed about dogs attacking humans and other dogs and attacking humans and other dogs ant sne— attacking humans and other dogs ant sne wan-t— attacking humans and other dogs and she won't beholden back toure— and she won't beholden back vaure wttn— and she won't beholden back you're with the— and she won't beholden back you're with the saturday five ttve— you're with the saturday five ttve an — you're with the saturday five ttve an en —

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open prison in the world now. it's time. oh, god, that's that natt— it's time. oh, god, that's that rttnt nw— it's time. oh, god, that's that nant tt-s— it's time. oh, god, that's that right now it's time for our next tetate— right now it's time for our next tetate natt— right now it's time for our next tetate nant. — right now it's time for our next debate right . ' t2vy debate right. another day, another mutt mauling . if they're another mutt mauling. if they're not chomping down a two hour or tearing apart a toddler puncturing a postman or savaging someone on a sunshine stroll, dogs , what is going on? you dogs, what is going on? you know, you just have to do a simple google news search. and i did one earlier. and in the last couple of days alone, there have been dog attacks been five different dog attacks around major around the uk, 15 major dog attacks in london since the start of this year has kerberos given up his watch post in hades and mated with zoltan, the devil dog of dracula to create some sort of brand new species ? oh sort of brand new species? oh no. i will tell you what's- no. i will tell you what's going tt— no. i will tell you what's going tt ts— no. i will tell you what's going on. it is humans,— no. i will tell you what's going on. it is humans, not- no. i will tell you what's going on. e on. it is humans, not the dogs. humans all over the country have decided they deserve to have a lovely little pooch . and so lovely little pooch. and so they're going to thread on facebook and some gnarly facebook and buying some gnarly old has not been old mutt who has not been pre—programmed to know how to behave putting the poor behave and putting the poor thing in an airless apartment and then letting with 50 and then letting someone with 50 different lives paid £5 a different dog lives paid £5 a minute walk all the

minute to walk all the neighbourhood dogs that then savage each other. i mean, this is savage each other. i mean, this ts tust— savage each other. i mean, this ts tust tranttv— g i i mean, this is just frankly ridiculous. i say— is just frankly ridiculous. i saw tt-s— is just frankly ridiculous. i saw tt-s ttne— is just frankly ridiculous. i say it's time we bring back the dog— say it's time we bring back the tea tteenee. — say it's time we bring back the dog licence. i'd— say it's time we bring back the dog licence. 2 i “vitae dog licence. i'd expect the next time maurice wants to buy his cockapoo who he's going to have to be checked out that he's got the garden, right the right garden, the right gaff, gear to look gaff, and the right gear to look after goes on some after it and goes on some sort of mutt management of mandatory mutt management training . and then i'd training course. and then i'd like to think that if his dog decides cujo on my cat , i decides to go cujo on my cat, i could make sure it gets could at least make sure it gets some and some puppy penalty points and has the canine has to go back to the canine college. not a fan of dogs . college. i'm not a fan of dogs. you realised this, but you may have realised this, but i've i've got to share i've realised i've got to share the with them. all i the planet with them. all that i ask both the authorities ask is that both the authorities and own dogs realise and people who own dogs realise they might be their best friends, but to me they smell like kipchoges old marathon sock. have a really terrible issue with a weak bladder or make more noise than steve bray on and frankly, i on steroids. and frankly, i think they're lumps think that they're just lumps of meat sharp fangs . let's meat with sharp fangs. let's bnng meat with sharp fangs. let's bring dog licence. bring back the dog licence. let's fido himself, let's protect fido himself, but also the likes of us who also protect the likes of us who don't want their cars urinated on, want to be barked at on, don't want to be barked at on, don't want to be barked at

on and frankly, on the tube and frankly, think that dogs now need to that dangerous dogs now need to come to an end. well well, well, alex, well truly off alex, it's well and truly off the that one. we're the leash with that one. we're going debate the leash with that one. we're going. debate that - the leash with that one. we're going-debate that in-al going to debate that in just a moment— going to debate that in just a moment-tat- moment, but we've got some treattnt— moment, but we've got somei treattnt—tatnt breaking news. so we're going over—addison- breaking news. so we're going over—addison . l breaking news. so we're going. over—addison . good over now to ray addison. good eventna. — over now to ray addison. good eventna. tn— over now to ray addison. good eventna. t-nn tav— over now to ray addison. good evening. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. and in breaking news, newsroom. and in breaking news, new footage has been released which appears to show conservative party staff holding a raucous party in december 2020 dunng a raucous party in december 2020 during the covid pandemic. now, in the video, which was obtained by the mirror, one party goer can be heard urging another not to live stream the footage as they film. meanwhile behind him, a man and a woman holding hands and dancing, appearing to drunkenly bump into a table covered in party food. at least 24 guests were reported to be at this gathering . this is a this gathering. this is a breaking story. we'll bring you more on this as we get it. welcome back, folks . now, reme, welcome back, folks. now, reme, on what welcome back, folks. now, reme, an wnat ttev— welcome back, folks. now, reme, on what alex has— welcome back, folks. now, reme, on what alex has just— i i now, reme, on what alex has just said. i assume because— on what alex has just said. i assume because you're a full

tnraatet— assume because you're a full throated libertarian, that aetuattv— throated libertarian, that actually you're going to say anatner— actually you're going to say anatner set— actually you're going to say another set of— actually you're going to say another set of licence sources. cane— another set of licence sources. cane — another set of licence sources. cane wett— another set of licence sources. come on. �*ftt�*tiee ”ti another set of licence sources. come on. ”ti etiy come on. well, you're absolutely right. i mean, fundamentally, this is looking at another set of regulations, another sort of impediment into our individual lives. look, i'm no fan of dogs ehhen lives. look, i'm no fan of dogs either, but i do think that generally speaking, most owners are quite responsible for their dogs. they tend to be quite good at it. we've seen only a handful of sort of vicious attacks by a lot of these dogs themselves. again, this kind of management training course, i mean , who is training course, i mean, who is this going to be taught by? how much is it going to cost the taxpayer ? how much more taxpayer? how much more bureaucracy really need? bureaucracy do we really need? it's bureaucracy if you're it's not bureaucracy if you're actually protecting people and actually protecting people and actually amount of dog actually the amount of dog attacks up attacks has gone up exponentially. i'm sure evervtatv— exponentially. i'm surei everybody-this exponentially. i'm sure- everybody-this can everybody watching this can tntnt— everybody watching this can think-various— everybody watching this can think various stories that think of various stories that nave—tasti think of various stories that. have—last few have happened in the last few nantns—atl have happened in the last few. months—of them months alone. and a lot of them aetuattv— actually involve little children. _ actually involve little children. thing is children. and the other thing is people— children. and the other thing is petite-tuvtnt- children. and the other thing is people buying dogs that people are now buying dogs that tettteratetv— deliberately bred to be big, grant— deliberately bred to be big, atant preces— deliberately bred to be big, giant pieces of— deliberately bred to be big, giant pieces of meat with teeth on-essentially- giant pieces of meat with teeth on-essentially .- giant pieces of meat with teeth on essentially . and a lot on them, essentially. and a lot of on them, essentially. and a lot at people— on them, essentially. and a lot at people tan-t— on them, essentially. and a lot of people don't know to of people don't know how to tratn—tan-tl of people don't know how to. train _don't know train their dog. they don't know now— train their dog. they don't know

new-tt— train their dog. they don't know haw-a, wna- train their dog. they don't know how it, who should how to control it, who should pav— how to control it, who should pay tar— how to control it, who should pay tar tte — how to control it, who should pay for it? the— how to control it, who should pay for it? the dog owners themselves. then people themselves. perhaps then people nttnt— might think twice about getting a-nats— might think twice about getting a-nats are— might think twice about getting a-nats nat— might think twice about getting a dogs are not urban city a dog. dogs are not urban city twetters— a dog. dogs are not urban city dwellers either— a dog. dogs are not urban city dwellers either .— a dog. dogs are not urban city dwellers either . i— a dog. dogs are not urban city dwellers either . i don't a dog. dogs are not urban city dwellers either. i don't think it's dwellers either. i don't think tt-s-ar— dwellers either. i don't think tt-s-ar-ta- dwellers either. i don't think it's-or-to have- dwellers either. i don't think it's-or-to have a. dwellers either. i don't think it's or to have a dog it's right or fair to have a dog teen— it's right or fair to have a dog teenleaanet— it's right or fair to have a dog keeplcooped un— it's right or fair to have a dog keep cooped up in keep it cooped up in the anatnent— keep it cooped up in the apartment. haul apartment. go on 15 short haul natttavs— apartment. go on 15 short haul holidays-expect— apartment. go on 15 short haul holidays expect fido to be holidays and expect fido to be happy- _ holidays and expect fido to be happy- i_ holidays and expect fido to be happy- t aetuattv— holidays and expect fido to be happy. i holidays and expect fido to be happy. i actually think there's a huge lack of responsibility out no point. out there and there's no point. i being anti—regulation out there and there's no point. i the being anti—regulation out there and there's no point. i the sake] anti—regulation out there and there's no point. i the sake ofnti—regulation out there and there's no point. i the sake of beingjulation for the sake of being anti—regulation, this i think, is quite essential . i think then is quite essential. i think then we're a nation— is quite essential. i think then we're a nation of— is quite essential. i think then we're a nation of dog- t2 i think then we're a nation of dog lovers , we're a nation of dog lovers, aent— we're a nation of dog lovers, aent wee— we're a nation of dog lovers, aren't we? what— we're a nation of dog lovers, aren't we? what are we going to do aren't we? what are we going to to wttn— aren't we? what are we going to to wttn rte— aren't we? what are we going to do with it? well— aren't we? what are we going to do with it? well not everyone is . ttanv— do with it? well not everyone is . ttanv at— do with it? well not everyone is . many of-viewers- do with it? well not everyone is . many of viewers will be. . many of our viewers will be. ant— . many of our viewers will be. ant tnev-tt— . many of our viewers will be. and they'll saying, alex, and they'll be saying, but alex, wnat— and they'll be saying, but alex, wnat-tatnt— and they'll be saying, but alex, wnat-tatnt ta- and they'll be saying, but alex, what going to with what are you going to do with all what are you going to do with att-tats— what are you going to do with att-tats-are- what are you going to do with all-dogs-are left?| all of the dogs that are left? neause— all of the dogs that are left? because-can't- all of the dogs that are left? because can't get past because people can't get past the regulations— because people can't get past the regulations and pay for the tratntnt— the regulations and pay for the tratntnt-tne— the regulations and pay for the training-the rest- the regulations and pay for the training the rest of it training and all the rest of it ? — training and all the rest of it 7 wet.— training and all the rest of it ? well, there's— training and all the rest of it ? well, there's going- training and all the rest of it ? well, there's going to have to be some sort of discussion about how the licence brought into how the licence is brought into force it costs force and how much it costs and i if people have force and how much it costs and i proven if people have force and how much it costs and i proven thatf people have force and how much it costs and i proven thatf pe0jcan'tave been proven that they can't control they should control their dogs, they should be forbidden from keeping dogs in certainly in the future. and i certainly tntnt—tntnts- in the future. and i certainly think—things you. think with these things you cant— think with these things you cant sart— think with these things you can't sort of— think with these things you can't sort of apply things retrospectively- can't sort of apply things retrospectivthat doesn't make legislation that doesn't make sense . so-have- legislation that doesn't make sense . so have be moving sense. so it'd have to be moving tarwarts— sense. so it'd have to be moving tarwarts .— sense. so it'd have to be moving forwards .-actually,- forwards. but actually, you

knew,— forwards. but actually, you knew—nave- forwards. but actually, you know,_have on know, this would have a knock on etteet— know, this would have a knock on etteet ta— know, this would have a knock on etteet ta isarts— know, this would have a knock on effect to . sorts of _ know, this would have a knock on effect to sorts of other effect to all sorts of other tntnts. — effect to all sorts of other things. there's- effect to all sorts of other things. there's a- effect to all sorts of other things. “ti”ti ttiyt i things. there's a very cool trade now from trade going on right now from illegal puppy farms because everybody and people everybody wants a dog and people are selling, know, poor are selling, you know, poor little have little dear things that have been of glass. so been fed shards of glass. so they're implode after they're meant to implode after about weeks. and you go back about six weeks. and you go back and about six weeks. and you go back ant-anatner— about six weeks. and you go back and-another one.— about six weeks. and you go back and-another one.ii- about six weeks. and you go back and-another one.ii mean,- and get another one. i mean, tt-s— and get another one. i mean, tt-s-tranttv— it's just it's frankly ludicrous. a of ludicrous. if we are a nation of dog the dog lovers actually having the licences item is better for the dogs as well. those particular farms are already illegal. so surely it's a failure of q so surely it's a failure of the pause— surely it's a failure of the nattee-tnat- surely it's a failure of the police that aren't police service that aren't eraettnt— police service that aren't cracking-on- police service that aren't cracking on those police service that aren't- cracking-on those already cracking down on those already tttetat— cracking down on those already illegal farms? _the- cracking down on those already illegal farms? ti.ti illegal farms? well, the police service go have service has got to go on. have you licences? your you had dog licences? your problem but problem solved. i'm sorry, but i agree— problem solved. i'm sorry, but i agree wttn— problem solved. i'm sorry, but i agree with alex. _ problem solved. i'm sorry, but i agree with alex. i'm— problem solved. i'm sorry, but i agree with alex. i'm not- 2 i'm sorry, but i agree with alex. i'm not saying nett— agree with alex. i'm not saying nett nas— agree with alex. i'm not saying hell has frozen— agree with alex. i'm not saying hell has frozen over, but i do i agree— hell has frozen over, but i do i agree wttn— hell has frozen over, but i do i agree with alex. _ hell has frozen over, but i do i agree with alex. you know, i. i tan-t— agree with alex. you know, i. i tan-t tntnt— agree with alex. you know, i. i don't think you— agree with alex. you know, i. i don't think you understand how ttttteutt— don't think you understand how ttttteutt tt— don't think you understand how difficult it is— don't think you understand how difficult it is to— don't think you understand how difficult it is to have a fear of difficult it is to have a fear at tats.— difficult it is to have a fear at tats. vau— difficult it is to have a fear of dogs. you know, i don't ttterattv— of dogs. you know, i don't literally remember it, but when i literally remember it, but when t was— literally remember it, but when t an— literally remember it, but when t an a— literally remember it, but when i was on a holiday— literally remember it, but when i was on a holiday before i was wear— i was on a holiday before i was vear att— i was on a holiday before i was wear at, a— i was on a holiday before i was one year old, a dog had attacked ant— one year old, a dog had attacked me. and-mental— one year old, a dog had attacked me. and mental damage of me. and the mental damage of tnat— me. and the mental damage of tnat ar— me. and the mental damage of tnat tr trtet— me. and the mental damage of that or tried to— me. and the mental damage of that or tried to attack me, ratner— that or tried to attack me, rather lived _ that or tried to attack me, rather lived with me forever. ant— rather lived with me forever. ant t— rather lived with me forever. and i couldn't— rather lived with me forever. and i couldn't walk down the street— and i couldn't walk down the street as— and i couldn't walk down the street as a— and i couldn't walk down the street as a kid.— and i couldn't walk down the street as a kid. if— and i couldn't walk down the street as a kid. if i knew there a tea— street as a kid. if i knew there was a dog there,— street as a kid. if i knew there was a dog there, i— street as a kid. if i knew there

was a dog there, i couldn't go to was a dog there, i couldn't go ta-t— was a dog there, i couldn't go to-i couldn't- was a dog there, i couldn't go to-i couldn't go- was a dog there, i couldn't go to i couldn't go into to the park. i couldn't go into. someone's_there someone's home if i knew there was-were.— someone's home if i knew there was-tnere. tne— someone's home if i knew there was-there. the fear- someone's home if i knew there was there. the fear was was a dog there. the fear was eanntetetv— was a dog there. the fear wasi completely—and completely overwhelming and a lot completely overwhelming and a tatltnase— completely overwhelming and a lot-those owners— completely overwhelming and a lot those owners do not lot of those owners do not appreetate— lot of those owners do not appreciate the _ lot of those owners do not appreciate the effect that a tear— appreciate the effect that a tea at— appreciate the effect that a tea at tats— appreciate the effect that a fear of dogs have because dogs are normal. and— fear of dogs have because dogs are normal. and nowadays i do nat— are normal. and nowadays i do not nave— are normal. and nowadays i do not nave tnat— are normal. and nowadays i do not have that fear— are normal. and nowadays i do not have that fear of dogs. but it's absolutely— not have that fear of dogs. but it's absolutely crippling and tnev— it's absolutely crippling and they everywhere . and i don't they are everywhere. and i don't tntnt—tnat- they are everywhere. and i don't tntnt—tnat -l think society recognises that. ant— think society recognises that. ant tnat-s— think society recognises that. and that's why— think society recognises that. and that's why something like wnat—nreventi and that's why something like. what—prevent the what alex says might prevent the ttnt— what alex says might prevent the ant-owners— what alex says might prevent the kind - owners that - what alex says might prevent the kind owners that me kind of dog owners that let me nave— kind of dog owners that let me have-situation— kind of dog owners that let me have situation when i was have that situation when i was rust— have that situation when i was tust a— have that situation when i was tust a saw.— have that situation when i was just a baby. benjamin i have a lot just a baby. benjamin i have a tatlsvnnatnv— just a baby. benjamin i have a lot sympathy every lot of sympathy for every individual— lot of sympathy for every individual that has kind of individual that has any kind of sart— individual that has any kind of sort-unatta— individual that has any kind of sort-phobialall. - individual that has any kind of sort-phobialall. i- individual that has any kind of 50“ phobia all. i sort of phobia at all. i mean, tn— sort of phobia at all. i mean, t-n-ttat— sort of phobia at all. i mean, t-n-tnat wa— sort of phobia at all. i mean, i'm that was quite i'm sure that was quite difficult with. but just difficult to deal with. but just because few people are afraid because a few people are afraid of we of something doesn't mean we should them to the should consign them to the corner room. but why corner of the room. but why should. i'm that's should. i'm sorry. that's that's tnat-s— should. i'm sorry. that's that's that's-unpleasant- 2 i'm sorry. that's that's that's unpleasant nonsense. that's such unpleasant nonsense. teause— that's such unpleasant nonsense. teausea— tew- that's such unpleasant nonsense. because a few people because why should a few people nave— because why should a few people nave tnetr— because why should a few people have their regular— because why should a few people have their regular lives be cut? teause— have their regular lives be cut? teause tt— have their regular lives be cut? because of you? _ have their regular lives be cut? because of you? cite/sag ll have their regular lives be cut? because of you? oéfg 22 because of you? okay, we'll have to it there. but of to leave it there. but out of interest, many interest, i think to many people, during lockdown people, got dogs during lockdown , to be honest, couldn't , to be honest, and couldn't actually socialise as these dogs and poor don't know and the poor dogs don't know what doing. exactly. what they're doing. exactly. that's . still ahead, that's the problem. still ahead, though, to though, benjamin's going to explain wants our beloved

explain why he wants our beloved over 60s to live out their lives without so much as a free prescription . this is going to prescription. this is going to get interesting you with the saturday five live on .

tomorrow's papers. we're live tron— tomorrow's papers. we're live tron .— tomorrow's papers. we're live tron . wtne — tomorrow's papers. we're live from . nine i i from. nine welcome back to the saturday. five cheers for your company and for your emails. as paul says, dogs are the least of our worries. 99.9% of dogs are safe. a better% than humans. trevor says. come to northern ireland. we have dog licences. we have voter id , we'll have we have voter id, we'll have free prescriptions and we don't have water metres . well, i think have water metres. well, i think i might move actually . now it's i might move actually. now it's time. love ulster for our next and final debate. up next, it's benjamin and he's going to tell us about the decision to freeze the prescription age at 60. away you go. benjamin yeah. there's one of us you can't put- you go. benjamin yeah. there's one of us you can't put on- git “ / there's one of us you can't put on a teasn— one of us you can't put on a

teasn tr— one of us you can't put on a teasn or a— one of us you can't put on a leash or a licence.- one of us you can't put on a leash or a licence. and that's me— leash or a licence. and that's me esot— leash or a licence. and that's me now. good evening. the government— me now. good evening. the government was— me now. good evening. the government was going to raise the government was going to raise tne ate— government was going to raise tne ate at— government was going to raise the age at which— government was going to raise the age at which you can get your— the age at which you can get your prescriptions for free from 60 your prescriptions for free from to tt— your prescriptions for free from to to te— your prescriptions for free from 60 to 66. that— your prescriptions for free from 60 to 66. that being the retirement— 60 to 66. that being the retirement age- 60 to 66. that being the retirement age for most people . retirement age for most people. ant— retirement age for most people. ant nw— retirement age for most people. ant tt-s— retirement age for most people. and now it's decided that 60 year— and now it's decided that 60 vear ttts— and now it's decided that 60 year olds should— and now it's decided that 60 year olds should still get it for year olds should still get it ttr tree. — year olds should still get it ttr tree. t— year olds should still get it for free. i think— year olds should still get it for free. i think this is outrageous- for free. i think this is outrageous .- for free. i think this is outrageous . i'm sick of the outrageous. i'm sick of the enttttet— outrageous. i'm sick of the entitled generation of boomers tnat— entitled generation of boomers tnat tntnt— entitled generation of boomers that think this— entitled generation of boomers that think this country should ttve— that think this country should ttve tnen— that think this country should give them everything . being 60 give them everything. being 60 years— give them everything. being 60 years ott— give them everything. being 60 years old means— give them everything. being 60 years old means nothing. you're stit— years old means nothing. you're stttt tn— years old means nothing. you're stttt tn tutt— years old means nothing. you're still in full time— years old means nothing. you're still in full time work. you're narttv— still in full time work. you're hardly elderly— still in full time work. you're hardly elderly .— still in full time work. you're hardly elderly . and why should hardly elderly. and why should 30 hardly elderly. and why should to wear— hardly elderly. and why should to wear ttts— hardly elderly. and why should 30 year olds be— hardly elderly. and why should 30 year olds be paying for your tree— 30 year olds be paying for your tree teats?— 30 year olds be paying for your free beats? the— 30 year olds be paying for your free beats? the truth is that someone in their— free beats? the truth is that someone in their early 60s is ntne— someone in their early 60s is ttnes— someone in their early 60s is nine times wealthier than stnetttv— nine times wealthier than stnetttv tn— nine times wealthier than somebody in their early 30s. t hey— somebody in their early 30s. tnev are— somebody in their early 30s. tnev tne— somebody in their early 30s. they are the luckiest generation tnat— they are the luckiest generation tnat tnere— they are the luckiest generation that there has— they are the luckiest generation that there has ever been. and so i that there has ever been. and so t sav— that there has ever been. and so t sav wnetner— that there has ever been. and so i say whether it's— that there has ever been. and so i say whether it's your bus pass— i say whether it's your bus pass, whether— i say whether it's your bus pass, whether it's your free prescriptions,— pass, whether it's your free prescriptions, you ain't getting tt— prescriptions, you ain't getting tt tt— prescriptions, you ain't getting tt tt at— prescriptions, you ain't getting none of it at 60.— prescriptions, you ain't getting none of it at 60. it should be at teast— none of it at 60. it should be at teast es.— none of it at 60. it should be at least 66. and— none of it at 60. it should be at least 66. and while we're at it, at least 66. and while we're at a, t— at least 66. and while we're at a, t tntnt— at least 66. and while we're at a, t tntnt we— at least 66. and while we're at it, i think we should raise the tensttn— it, i think we should raise the tensttn ate— it, i think we should raise the tensttn age as— it, i think we should raise the pension age as well. well, you know— pension age as well. well, you know wnate — pension age as well. well, you know what? i— pension age as well. well, you know what? i think- pension age as well. well, you know what? “

i've ever heard in my entire life. horrible assault on life. and a horrible assault on some that have some people that have been working all of lives. they working all of their lives. they had interest rates back in the day thanks to the socialists that were had in charge in the day . they had interest rates in day. they had interest rates in double figures, much higher than what we're going through right now . they have worked all that now. they have worked all that time. they have. i think, a right to expect it to be able to go and get something from their doctor i'm talking about to help them keep healthy like five, six more years. you're saying? not at to,— more years. you're saying? not at to, to.— more years. you're saying? not at to, to. to.— more years. you're saying? not at 60, 60. 60. yeah.- ”ti gilt]? you're saying? not at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why ”ti «ttiva”t;f you're saying? not at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why not? people— at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why not? tetate-ttvtnt— at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why not? people living longer. people at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why not? peoworking.iving longer. people at 60, 60. 60. yeah. why not? peoworking.iving lo the. people are working longer. the retirement— are working longer. the retirement i retirement age is going up. i agree — retirement age is going up. i agree -tave- retirement age is going up. i gee -tave a- retirement age is going up. i agree. _have a lot. retirement age is going up. ii agree. _have a lot of agree. we can have a lot of problems in life. yeah. yeah, they problems in life. yeah. yeah, tnev an— problems in life. yeah. yeah, they can. sure.— problems in life. yeah. yeah, they can. sure. but- “ e ”ti yeah. yeah, they can. sure. but they're also tttetv— they can. sure. but they're also tttetvlte— they can. sure. but they're also likely be considerable. likely to be considerable. ttener— likely to be considerable. richer than— likely to be considerable. richer than anyone else. i'm richer than anyone else. so. i'm sorry— richer than anyone else. so. i'm strw—neet- sorry, darren. you need to evntatn— sorry, darren. you need to explain-should- explain. why should a millionaire— explain. why should a millionaire 60 year old get treettes— millionaire 60 year old get freebies on— millionaire 60 year old get freebies on the— millionaire 60 year old get freebies on the nhs kids freebies on the nhs while kids wttn— freebies on the nhs while kids wttn sanse— freebies on the nhs while kids with cancer need— freebies on the nhs while kids with cancer need treatment? wett. — with cancer need treatment? wett. t-tt— with cancer need treatment? well, i'll tell— with cancer need treatment? well, i'll tell you,— with cancer need treatment? well, i'll tell you, i'll- well, i'll tell you, i'll explain to you now, explain to you right now, because saying because you're saying that actually people should start paying actually people should start paying nhs , so dare paying more for the nhs, so dare i benjamin, you're i say it, benjamin, you're starting to sound a little bit like him the like remember him and the institute economic affairs ?

institute of economic affairs? well, you get rid of it for evervne t— well, you get rid of it for everyone. i-i. well, you get rid of it for- everyone. i-i actually everyone. i would. i actually think including think that, you know, including pensions. why should a pensions. i mean, why should a millionaire able to millionaire pensioner be able to sort claim on state sort of claim on the state pensions thing pensions altogether? same thing with , the with with prescription, the same with a why are these a free bus pass. why are these wealthy by the way, wealthy boomers who by the way, can own their own homes, unlike our that our generation? i think that actually they shouldn't have any freebies the state at all. i freebies on the state at all. i think it's a bit a jump tit“ i think it's a bit a jump from think it's a bit of a jump from 60l66— think it's a bit of a jump from soles tt— think it's a bit of a jump from 60.66 if you're— think it's a bit of a jump from 60 66 if you're going to 60 to 66 if you're going to increase—age. increase the pension age or tnsreasesan—l increase the pension age or. increase _can have increase the way you can have tne— increase the way you can have the-prescriptions,- increase the way you can have the prescriptions, needs increase the way you can have thtbe prescriptions, needs increase the way you can have thtbeincremental)ns, needs increase the way you can have thtbe incremental because eds to be incremental because i tntnt—ts- to be incremental because ii think—do need think you absolutely do need to tatanse— balance between protecting tenstners— balance between protecting pensioners are pensioners and people that are ettertv— pensioners and people that are. elderly—vulnerable. pensioners and people that are. el(thei_vulnerable. pensioners and people that are ellthei end vulnerable. pensioners and people that are ellthei end of vulnerable. pensioners and people that are ellthei end of theilnerable. pensioners and people that are ellthei end of the spectrum at the other end of the spectrum ant— at the other end of the spectrum ant vsung— at the other end of the spectrum ant vsung testte. — at the other end of the spectrum and young people. and that's why you—conservative, - and young people. and that's why you-are zonservative, - and young people. and that's why you-are aiservative,- and young people. and that's why you-are a partytive,- and young people. and that's why you are a party going because they are a party going to tettver— because they are a party going to deliver everybody up and to deliver for everybody up and town. — to deliver for everybody up and town. tt-s— to deliver for everybody up and down. e “t: to deliver for everybody up and down. e “g down. it's embarrassing how much you seat . well, it's you want a safe seat. well, it's a lot safer than this one, i can assure you. there are no safe seats at gb news. can tell you seats at gb news. i can tell you after weeks of this show. after ten weeks of this show. but mean, so but look, i mean, what is so special about a year old? special about a six year old? i suspect the six old that suspect the six year old that have watching they have have watching this, they have what you call an elderly. they have hard their have worked hard all their lives just bring just to just to bring proceedings end. ithink proceedings to an end. i think

it's rich of proceedings to an end. i think it's-rich of benjamin- it's pretty rich of benjamin tutterwsrtn— it's pretty rich of benjamin butterworth to— it's pretty rich of benjamin butterworth to sit there and sat— butterworth to sit there and sat att— butterworth to sit there and call all the _ butterworth to sit there and call all the people entitled and enttttet— call all the people entitled and entitled generation . i mean, entitled generation. i mean, come on, benjamin, you are trstattv— come on, benjamin, you are trstattv ne— come on, benjamin, you are probably one of— come on, benjamin, you are probably one of the most enttttet— probably one of the most entitled people that i've ever nat— entitled people that i've ever nat tne— entitled people that i've ever had the displeasure of meeting . had the displeasure of meeting. oh, had the displeasure of meeting. on. wet.— had the displeasure of meeting. on. wet. t— had the displeasure of meeting. oh, well, i tell— had the displeasure of meeting. oh, well, i tell you— had the displeasure of meeting. oh, well, i tell you what,- had the displeasure of meeting. oh, well, i tell you what, they got all their houses, all their health a booming economy health care, a booming economy worked of that . and what worked for all of that. and what do the of do? do you think the rest of us do? i'm sorry, there is a i'm sorry, but there is a comeuppance coming the comeuppance coming to the boomers going boomers and it's going to be a shock. they've got to pay for some of this eventually. i mean, ream surely ream the point there. you surely take that a take that point that actually a lot take that point that actually a tot—are- take that point that actually ai lot—are looking lot of older people are looking at tne— lot of older people are looking at tne vsunger— lot of older people are looking at the younger and at the younger generation and tnev-re— at the younger generation and they're—actually. at the younger generation and they're—actually , they're saying, well, actually, you— they're saying, well, actually, vsu-we— they're saying, well, actually, you _we .interest. they're saying, well, actually,. you _we .interest rates you know, we had interest rates sky you know, we had interest rates stv ngn— you know, we had interest rates stv ntgn. tne— you know, we had interest rates sky high. the economy was the stst— sky high. the economy was the stst an— sky high. the economy was the stst st— sky high. the economy was the sick man of europe in a lot of ant— sick man of europe in a lot of cases. and that— sick man of europe in a lot of cases. and that actually , you cases. and that actually, you know— cases. and that actually, you know, vsung— cases. and that actually, you know, young people today have it tettv— know, young people today have it prettv gott— know, young people today have it prettv gsst. t-ve— know, young people today have it pretty good. i've got to say, t-n — pretty good. i've got to say, t-n sn— pretty good. i've got to say, i'm on benjamin's this i'm on benjamin's side on this tarttsutar— i'm on benjamin's side on this particular argument. i'm on benjamin's side on this particular argument . i particular argument. i actually tttnt— particular argument. i actually tttnt-t— particular argument. i actually think i agree that a lot of think that i agree that a lot of these and of these pensioners and a lot of these pensioners and a lot of these individual are these individual that are obviously that obviously able to claim that free, but they're not all multi—millionaires. they aren't they they have multi—millionaires. they have all paid their through the

all paid their way through the taxation system. think taxation system. but i think that system is wrong in that entire system is wrong in itself. mean, fundamentally , itself. i mean, fundamentally, itself. i mean, fundamentally, it individuals it means that those individuals have for that money. have to work for that money. then they end up claiming those freebies. but of course, not every is every older person is a millionaire, some them millionaire, but some of them are and be targeting are. and we should be targeting that support rather than that kind of support rather than giving effectively giving us effectively a socialist blanket to socialist blanket approach to everyone. a quarter of everyone. well a quarter of people are retirement age people who are retirement age are millionaires in a few years, there'll be more wealth among retired people in their 70s than workers their 20s that is workers in their 20s that is unsustainable. that's workers in their 20s that is unsustainable . that's why that's unsustainable. that's why that's why— unsustainable. that's why that's wnv vsu — unsustainable. that's why that's wnv you want— unsustainable. that's why that's wnv you want ts— unsustainable. that's why that's why you want to bump- e. that's why that's why you want to bump them all on. — why you want to bump them all on. .ttat-s— why you want to bump them all off. .that's why— why you want to bump them all off. .that's why you - why you want to bump them all off. 2 off. and that's why you need to cut middle cut taxes for low and middle income people. benjamin's argued that income people. benjamin's argued tnat—att- income people. benjamin's argued tnat—att tne- that we need to send all the tenstners— that we need to send all the pensioners rwanda. well, pensioners to rwanda. well, i tntnt— pensioners to rwanda. well, i tntnt we-t— pensioners to rwanda. well, i think we'd-more- pensioners to rwanda. well, i. think we'd-more-in think we'd have more growth in the think we'd have more growth in tne-tt— think we'd have more growth in tne-tt-nat- think we'd have more growth in tne-tt-nat tt- think we'd have more growth in the-if-had if you. the economy if you had if you nat— the economy if you had if you tat-tetate— the economy if you had if you had people coming here had the people coming here on smatt— small, absolutely disgusting tntng—att- small, absolutely disgusting tntng—att stl small, absolutely disgusting . thing—all of the thing to say. i thank all of the otter— thing to say. i thank all of the older generations— thing to say. i thank all of the older generations that have astuattv— actually built this country into wnat— actually built this country into wnatlts— actually built this country into wnatlts now— actually built this country into what is now. that's it for what it is now. that's it for anstner— what it is now. that's it for another show— what it is now. that's it for another show ,— what it is now. that's it for another show , though. another show, though. unfortunately, we've had a real nost— unfortunately, we've had a real test t— unfortunately, we've had a real test ttntnt— unfortunately, we've had a real hoot. i think it's— unfortunately, we've had a real hoot. i think it's safe to say tnant— hoot. i think it's safe to say tnant vou— hoot. i think it's safe to say tnant vsu ts— hoot. i think it's safe to say thank you to benjamin for ss—nssttng— thank you to benjamin for co—hosting tonight. but don't worry— co—hosting tonight. but don't worry ,— co—hosting tonight. but don't worry , nw— co—hosting tonight. but don't worry , my tea— co—hosting tonight. but don't worry , my dear viewers, emily's worry, my dear viewers, emily's tast— worry, my dear viewers, emily's tast neat— worry, my dear viewers, emily's back next week. _ worry, my dear viewers, emily's back next week. margaret says,

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another warm and humid night. so to start sunday, it will be quite unsettled for some with showers already to start the morning. some places will see a bit of hazy brightness as well before we see further heavy showers and thunderstorms popping ”pt showers and thunderstorms popping up, especially as we get closer towards lunchtime. temperature wise tomorrow, though, will be similar to today, though, where we see any prolonged spells of showers, things will feel a little cooler under those cloudier skies. now, we do have two yellow thunderstorm warnings out from 12:00 tomorrow and this is due to plenty of thunderstorms around during tomorrow evening especially. and these will push northwards throughout the afternoon and overnight to clear scotland during monday morning . scotland during monday morning. and this could bring some disruption tomorrow evening. so do check the weather if you are travelling along, will mean travelling along, it will mean that quite a warm and that it will be quite a warm and humid start again on monday that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut gain on monday that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut aiin on monday that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut a bit)n monday that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut a bit more nday that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut a bit more in ay that it will be quite a warm and humid strbut a bit more in the morning. but a bit more in the way of brightness, especially across england and wales. a bit cloudier across cloudier with some rain across scotland to start the new week.

but further south showers will soon develop as we go towards monday afternoon and not much will change throughout the rest of the week with showers continuing , though it will continuing, though it will stay warm and humid .

well . well. hello and welcome. this is well. hello and welcome. this is calvin's common- 2 i this is calvin's common sense crusade. calvin's common- 2 i this is calvin's common sense crusade. wttn— calvin's common sense crusade. wttn ne— calvin's common sense crusade. wttn tne— calvin's common sense crusade. with me, the reverend calvin tsttnssn— with me, the reverend calvin tsttnssn sn— with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your— with me, the reverend calvin robinson on your tv online and on your— robinson on your tv online and on your wtretess— robinson on your tv online and on your wireless .— robinson on your tv online and on your wireless . today, we will on your wireless. today, we will be on your wireless. today, we will te ttssusstng— on your wireless. today, we will be discussing the— on your wireless. today, we will be discussing the case of the nstner— be discussing the case of the matter wtt— be discussing the case of the mother who this— be discussing the case of the mother who this week lost her case as she attempted to make a sex case as she attempted to make a etusattsn— case as she attempted to make a sex education charity publish a tessn — sex education charity publish a tessn tt— sex education charity publish a lesson. it taught— sex education charity publish a lesson. it taught her daughter. i'll lesson. it taught her daughter. t-tt te— lesson. it taught her daughter. t-tt te tstnet— lesson. it taught her daughter. i'll be joined by— lesson. it taught her daughter. i'll be joined by the renowned tree— i'll be joined by the renowned tree steesn— i'll be joined by the renowned free speech campaigner michael shellenberger_ free speech campaigner michael shellenberger .— free speech campaigner michael shellenberger . and in the duel,

shellenberger. and in the duel, my shellenberger. and in the duel, nv tanetttsts— shellenberger. and in the duel, my panellists will be discussing wnetner— my panellists will be discussing wnetner tr— my panellists will be discussing whether or not— my panellists will be discussing whether or not the— my panellists will be discussing whether or not the church of tngtant— whether or not the church of tngtant-gsne.- whether or not the church of england gone. woke my england has gone. woke my sttettst— england has gone. woke my sidekick emma— england has gone. woke my sidekick emma webb. your initial tnsugnts— sidekick emma webb. your initial tnsugnts e — sidekick emma webb. your initial thoughts ? has— sidekick emma webb. your initial thoughts ? has the— sidekick emma webb. your initial thoughts ? i“ ”ti.“ sidekick emma webb. your initial thoughts ? i“. ”i“ g thoughts? has the church gone rogue? is that even question? rogue? is that even a question? i that church of i think that the church of england gone so down england have gone so far down the no return that the path of no return that they're making the most convincing i've ever convincing argument i've ever heard a catholic? heard to become a catholic? oh gosh, nemesis, bastani. gosh, my nemesis, aaron bastani. what's immediate reaction? what's your immediate reaction? wett— what's your immediate reaction? wett. -teure— what's your immediate reaction? well,-demure from - well, i tried to demure from attacks denominations, of attacks on denominations, of which i'm not a member, but i think we're in moment where think we're in a moment where people principles , values people need principles, values and in senior and frequently in the senior levels civil in this levels of civil society in this country, don't see them. country, we don't see them. and that justin welby. but that includes justin welby. but before all of here's the before all of that, here's the news _addison- before all of that, here's the news-addison .- before all of that, here's the news-addison . l before all of that, here's the. news-addison . good news with ray addison. good eventng. — news with ray addison. good evening. here's— news with ray addison. good evening. here's the latest from the newsroom. the national education union has announced more strike action next month on the fifth and the 7th of july. teachers in england will walk out in their long running dispute over pay . the eu is also dispute over pay. the eu is also rebalancing its members to see if they want to continue taking