channel hello and welcome to gb news sunday. you for joining hello and welcome to gb news sunday. you forjoining us sunday. thank you for joining us this i'm emily this sunday lunchtime. i'm emily carver , and for next two carver, and for the next two hours, i will be keeping you company online and company on tv, online and digital radio. it's going to digital radio. so it's going to be a little different. this be a little bit different. this week. be joined by my week. i'll be joined by my political panel throughout the show hot take on show to give their hot take on the that was the week that the week. that was the week that could be. and of course, the very latest from the sunday papers. up this hour, papers. so coming up this hour, it's party that seemingly is it's the party that seemingly is never going to this time. never going to stop this time. partygate has delivered what the

sunday is calling sunday mirror is calling bombshell footage of a bash taking place at the conservative headquarters at the height of the christmas lockdown in 2020. but is this really the bombshell they think it is, or is it now time to say the party's over.7 the party's stopped. why don't we, don't know, get a grip on we, i don't know, get a grip on the economy instead? and remember , we were all told that remember, we were all told that keir starmer's appointment of top servant gray was top civil servant sue gray was whiter white, totally whiter than white, totally legitimate , that there was no legitimate, that there was no way there could be a conflict of interest in her taking a chief of staff job with keir starmer. well, a inquiry has found that in did breach whitehall in fact she did breach whitehall impartiality rules and could have been sacked if she had not already quit then i can't quite believe this one is true. as it stands, serial killer levi bellfield, who's victims include 13 year old milly dowler, will be allowed to marry his girlfriend in prison. this has got to be the biggest insult to his victims families, as i can possibly imagine. but apparently it's his human right. i'll be asking, should prisoners be

allowed to get married? are allowed to get married? and are we too soft on serial we just too soft on serial killers? and coming up later in the programme, andrew lloyd webber against webber has hit out against political correctness in the arts. the legendary musical theatre composer, a titan of the industry, has abandoned an idea for a new musical because you guessed it, he was told it might cause offence. was it racist, sexist, homophobic ? no, because sexist, homophobic? no, because it's set abroad and people might get offended that he's not from there . as always, please do get there. as always, please do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gb views at gb news .com or tweet us at gb news. we've got all of that to come and more. but first, it's the news headunes but first, it's the news headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. hi there. it is a 1:02. good afternoon— hi there. it is a 1:02. good afternoon to— hi there. it is a 1:02. good afternoon to you from the gb newsroom. the— afternoon to you from the gb newsroom. the levelling up secretary— newsroom. the levelling up secretary has— newsroom. the levelling up secretary has apologised for what— secretary has apologised for what he-s— secretary has apologised for what he's described as unacceptable behaviour about a conservative— unacceptable behaviour about a conservative live _ unacceptable behaviour about a conservative live staff party during— conservative live staff party during lockdown . michael gove during lockdown. michael gove says— during lockdown. michael gove says he-s— during lockdown. michael gove says he's personally sorry after avideo— says he's personally sorry after

a video emerged— says he's personally sorry after a video emerged showing panygoers— a video emerged showing partygoers dancing and joking about— partygoers dancing and joking about cowo— partygoers dancing and joking about covid restrictions during the tetgtt— about covid restrictions during the tetgtt at— about covid restrictions during the height of the— about covid restrictions during the height of the pandemic, with one person heard— the height of the pandemic, with one person heard discussing teattag— one person heard discussing bending the— one person heard discussing bending the rules and laughing in bending the rules and laughing tn the— bending the rules and laughing tn the vttea— bending the rules and laughing in the video obtained by the tama— in the video obtained by the mtttat .— in the video obtained by the mtttat , the— in the video obtained by the mirror , the lib— in the video obtained by the mirror , the lib dems say the mirror, the lib dems say the apology— mirror, the lib dems say the apology ta— mirror, the lib dems say the apology ta toa— mirror, the lib dems say the apology is too little too late. twa— apology is too little too late. two at— apology is too little too late. two ot two— apology is too little too late. two of the 24— apology is too little too late. two of the 24 people at the cwtotmao— two of the 24 people at the christmas party— two of the 24 people at the christmas party were named in torto— christmas party were named in boris johnson's— christmas party were named in boris johnson's resignation towow— boris johnson's resignation honours list. _ boris johnson's resignation honours list. mr gove told us ttootpttaaw— honours list. mr gove told us disciplinary action has already toot— disciplinary action has already toot takea— disciplinary action has already toot tatow . — disciplinary action has already been taken . the— disciplinary action has already been taken . " disciplinary action has already been taken . been taken. the reason why those steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the disease in order to make sure that the pressures on the nhs were manageable in order to make sure that we could treat people who were very ill. so again, the actions here are deeply distressing and i can only apologise to people that individuals behaved in this way . my understanding is that there was an investigation into the party when the photograph emerged and people were disciplined . emerged and people were disciplined. meanwhile, emerged and people were disciplined . meanwhile, mps will disciplined. meanwhile, mps will tomorrow debate— disciplined. meanwhile, mps will

tomorrow debate any— t: sti. “tilt: meanwhile, mps will tomorrow debate any possible pwtotmowt— tomorrow debate any possible punishment for— tomorrow debate any possible punishment for boris johnson attor— punishment for boris johnson attot to— punishment for boris johnson attot to was— punishment for boris johnson after he was found to have tasted— after he was found to have misled parliament over partygate.— misled parliament over partygate. the privileges committee _ partygate. the privileges committee recommended the former tamo— committee recommended the former wtmo tttatstot— committee recommended the former prime minister should face a 90 day swsoastpoa— prime minister should face a 90 day suspension on— prime minister should face a 90 day suspension on had he not attoatw— day suspension on had he not already resigned— day suspension on had he not already resigned in advance of his already resigned in advance of tats judgement.— already resigned in advance of hisjudgement. it's already resigned in advance of his judgement. it's understood his judgement. it's understood tats supporters— his judgement. it's understood his supporters are being encouraged— his supporters are being encouraged to abstain from the vote. — encouraged to abstain from the vote. tat— encouraged to abstain from the vote. but former— encouraged to abstain from the vote. but former brexit soototaw— vote. but former brexit secretary david davis told camttta— secretary david davis told camilla tominey earlier he will support— camilla tominey earlier he will support the— camilla tominey earlier he will support the committee, saying it's support the committee, saying tt-s twang— support the committee, saying it's funding its— support the committee, saying it's funding its findings are stow— it's funding its findings are stow . — it's funding its findings are stow . owe— it's funding its findings are clear. one of— it's funding its findings are clear . one of the- it's funding its findings are clear . gt; it's funding its findings are clear . q3 clear. one of the things about parliament is it's the highest court in the land that creates a problem when you're coming to privileges. what's that problem? it's having trial in a it's like having a trial in a village. everybody knows everybody. yeah, nobody is entirely unbiased . and how do entirely unbiased. and how do they know— entirely unbiased. and how do they know tats— entirely unbiased. and how do they know his own— ti; ”tint c. : and how do they know his own mind at the ttmot — they know his own mind at the ttmot thaw— they know his own mind at the time? they don't— they know his own mind at the time? "t; t:t:::t“ c they know his own mind at the time? t:t:::t“ c time? they don't have to know. what they know is what he knows. yeah. if you if you go to a party, you know, it was a party. you don't need an advisor to tell you . well, rishi sunak is tell you. well, rishi sunak is facing— tell you. well, rishi sunak is taotag a— tell you. well, rishi sunak is facing a fourth— well, rishi sunak is facing a fourth by—election tottowtwg— facing a fourth by—election following the— facing a fourth by—election following the resignation of a

format— following the resignation of a former conservative mp, david wattwtow— former conservative mp, david wattwtow .— former conservative mp, david warburton , who— former conservative mp, david warburton , who had the tory whip warburton, who had the tory whip saspowtot— warburton, who had the tory whip swspoatot tast— warburton, who had the tory whip suspended last april, has stopwat— suspended last april, has stepped down— suspended last april, has stepped down from his somerton and stepped down from his somerton ant wome— stepped down from his somerton and frome constituency following aasatos— and frome constituency following accusations of _ and frome constituency following accusations of sexual misconduct aat— accusations of sexual misconduct ant oooatno— accusations of sexual misconduct and cocaine use. he's the fourth consowattwo— and cocaine use. he's the fourth conservative mp— and cocaine use. he's the fourth conservative mp in— and cocaine use. he's the fourth conservative mp in eight days to town— conservative mp in eight days to resign following— conservative mp in eight days to resign following the announcement by boris johnson. wast— announcement by boris johnson. wtgotatans— announcement by boris johnson. nigel adams and— announcement by boris johnson. nigel adams and nadine dorries. the nigel adams and nadine dorries. tno nwnton— nigel adams and nadine dorries. tno nwnton ot— nigel adams and nadine dorries. the number of migrants entering the the number of migrants entering to un— the number of migrants entering to un wa— the number of migrants entering to un wa tno— the number of migrants entering the uk via the english channel in the uk via the english channel tn smatt— the uk via the english channel in small boats— the uk via the english channel in small boats this year has swnassot— in small boats this year has surpassed 10,000, according to the surpassed 10,000, according to to none— surpassed 10,000, according to the home office— surpassed 10,000, according to the home office figures. 374 poooto— the home office figures. 374 poopto woo— the home office figures. 374 people were detected, making the journey— people were detected, making the journey wostontaw— people were detected, making the journey yesterday and crossings nave— journey yesterday and crossings have increased— journey yesterday and crossings have increased in— journey yesterday and crossings have increased in in recent days as we— have increased in in recent days as to woatnon— have increased in in recent days as the weather has— have increased in in recent days as the weather has improved. and but as the weather has improved. and tat tno— as the weather has improved. and but the number— as the weather has improved. and but the number this year is stttt— but the number this year is still below— but the number this year is still below the— but the number this year is still below the equivalent at tnts— still below the equivalent at tnts ootnt— still below the equivalent at this point last— still below the equivalent at this point last year, although noooo— this point last year, although 46,000 migrants did cross the cnannot— 46,000 migrants did cross the cnannot tn— 46,000 migrants did cross the channel in 2022. _ 46,000 migrants did cross the channel in 2022. the uk's ptotgot— channel in 2022. the uk's ptotgot an— channel in 2022. the uk's pledged an extra £16 million to boost— pledged an extra £16 million to boost ukraine's— pledged an extra £16 million to boost ukraine's cyber defences. tnat-s— boost ukraine's cyber defences. tnat-s tn— boost ukraine's cyber defences. that's in addition— boost ukraine's cyber defences. that's in addition to 6.35

ntttton— that's in addition to 6.35 million promised last year. the government— million promised last year. the government says— million promised last year. the government says it's to help unans— government says it's to help ukraine better— government says it's to help ukraine better defend its onttoat— ukraine better defend its critical infrastructure from tasstan— critical infrastructure from russian attacks. the prime tttntston— russian attacks. the prime minister will— russian attacks. the prime minister will also use a summit tnts— minister will also use a summit tnts west— minister will also use a summit tnts west to— minister will also use a summit this week to urge— minister will also use a summit this week to urge investors and tastnossos— this week to urge investors and businesses to— this week to urge investors and businesses to step— this week to urge investors and businesses to step up their swoon— businesses to step up their swoon ton— businesses to step up their support for the— businesses to step up their support for the country's economic recovery as it ontnaos— economic recovery as it continues with its counter ottonstwo— continues with its counter offensive against russian forces in offensive against russian forces tn tno— offensive against russian forces tn tno sown— offensive against russian forces in the south and— offensive against russian forces in the south and east of the country— in the south and east of the country .— in the south and east of the country . wen,— in the south and east of the country . well, thunder , country. well, thunder, ttgntntng— country. well, thunder, lightning and heavy rain are nowng— lightning and heavy rain are moving across— lightning and heavy rain are moving across the uk, leading to concerns of flash— moving across the uk, leading to concerns of flash flooding. the wet— concerns of flash flooding. the met ontoo — concerns of flash flooding. the met office has— concerns of flash flooding. the met office has predicted wind ant— met office has predicted wind ant natt— met office has predicted wind and hail with— met office has predicted wind and hail with yellow warnings for thunderstorms in place tno — for thunderstorms in place across the majority of england, watts— across the majority of england, watos ant— across the majority of england, wales and northern ireland until nttntttt— wales and northern ireland until nttnttnt. tnat— wales and northern ireland until midnight. that could lead to a nontn-s— midnight. that could lead to a month's worth— midnight. that could lead to a month's worth of— midnight. that could lead to a month's worth of rain falling in atow— month's worth of rain falling in a tow tows— month's worth of rain falling in a few hours. it— month's worth of rain falling in a few hours. it is— month's worth of rain falling in a few hours. it is as the result of a few hours. it is as the result ot tnts— a few hours. it is as the result of this recent— a few hours. it is as the result of this recent warm weather wnton— of this recent warm weather wnton ts— of this recent warm weather wnton ts sot— of this recent warm weather which is set to— of this recent warm weather which is set to continue today wttn— which is set to continue today with temperatures in the mid to non— with temperatures in the mid to non 20s.— with temperatures in the mid to high 20s. prince— with temperatures in the mid to high 20s. prince william has wowot— high 20s. prince william has wowot to— high 20s. prince william has vowed to tackle— high 20s. prince william has vowed to tackle homelessness by tattttnt— vowed to tackle homelessness by building social— vowed to tackle homelessness by building social housing on his tant— building social housing on his tant .— building social housing on his own land . the— building social housing on his own land . the prince of wales own land. the prince of wales tott— own land. the prince of wales tott tno— own land. the prince of wales told the times— own land. the prince of wales told the times ,_ own land. the prince of wales told the times , ending the told the times, ending the want—

told the times, ending the ptttnt ot— told the times, ending the plight of hidden homelessness in the plight of hidden homelessness in to un— plight of hidden homelessness in to to nas— plight of hidden homelessness in the uk has been— plight of hidden homelessness in the uk has been a— plight of hidden homelessness in the uk has been a lifelong antttton— the uk has been a lifelong antttton .— the uk has been a lifelong ambition . he's— the uk has been a lifelong ambition . he's also expressed ambition. he's also expressed tnastnatton— ambition. he's also expressed frustration at— ambition. he's also expressed frustration at government oownotts— frustration at government councils and _ frustration at government councils and charities who he saws— councils and charities who he says an— councils and charities who he says are managing homelessness rattan— says are managing homelessness natnon tnan— says are managing homelessness rather than preventing it. many of rather than preventing it. many ot tna— rather than preventing it. many of the details— rather than preventing it. many of the details of— rather than preventing it. many of the details of his five year wan— of the details of his five year ptan wttt— of the details of his five year ptan wttt to— of the details of his five year plan will be announced next nontn— plan will be announced next nontn .— plan will be announced next nontn . nono— plan will be announced next month . more as— plan will be announced next month . more as it happens , as month. more as it happens, as atwaws— month. more as it happens, as atwaws nono— month. more as it happens, as always here on— month. more as it happens, as always here on gb— month. more as it happens, as always here on gb news. but now it always here on gb news. but now tt ts— always here on gb news. but now tt ts tast— always here on gb news. but now tt ts task to— always here on gb news. but now it is back to en— always here on gb news. but now it is back to gb news. sunday |tnant— it is back to gb news. sunday | ttant wow.— it is back to gb news. sunday . thank you, aaron. - it is back to gb news. sunday i thank you, aaron. so- it is back to gb news. sunday- . thank you, aaron. so the saga it is back to gb news. sunday- . thank y is, aaron. so the saga it is back to gb news. sunday- . thank y is notron. so the saga it is back to gb news. sunday thank yis not going the saga it is back to gb news. sunday thank yis not going away.aga of partygate is not going away any time soon, it seems . what any time soon, it seems. what the sunday mirror is calling a bombshell has emerged of bombshell video has emerged of conservative dancing conservative party staff dancing , joking about , drinking and joking about breaking the rules in 2020. covid restrictions were, of course, very much in place at the time. so let's take a quick look. party ends up as an

tnstatnan — look. party ends up as an instagram live— look. party ends up as an instagram live as- party ends up as an instagram live as long as we ton-t— instagram live as long as we ton-t .— instagram live as long as we ton-t . wett— instagram live as long as we don't . well, i'm— instagram live as long as we don't . well, i'm pretty sure . don't. well, i'm pretty sure. tnwosstwa— don't. well, i'm pretty sure. impressive. globsec- don't. well, i'm pretty sure. impressive. globsec looks . impressive. globsec looks. laura, what do you think of tntst— laura, what do you think of tntst tawa— laura, what do you think of this? laura so— laura, what do you think of this? laura so do you think this is this? laura so do you think this ts a— this? laura so do you think this ts a ot— this? laura so do you think this is a case of double— this? laura so do you think this is a case of double standards at atmo— is a case of double standards at attno wnon— is a case of double standards at a time when we— is a case of double standards at a time when we were all being tott— a time when we were all being tott to— a time when we were all being tott to toot— a time when we were all being told to lock down?— a time when we were all being told to lock down? 0” t:t:::t told to lock down? or do you tttnt— told to lock down? or do you tntnt a— told to lock down? or do you think a bit like me that maybe it's think a bit like me that maybe wsfime think a bit like me that maybe it's time to move on from all of this? partygate nonsense? however, meanwhile , while keir however, meanwhile, while keir starmer, he's woken up to some bad news as an official inquiry has found that the senior civil servant that he poached after the partygate inquiry, sue gray, breached whitehall impartiality rules by taking up that job as chief of staff in starmer's office. the findings are likely to be embarrassing for the labour leader , who has railed labour leader, who has railed repeatedly against tory misconduct. does it smack a little bit of hypocrisy? we'll

be getting stuck into that. joining me is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, here with me in the studio . so, nigel, shall we studio. so, nigel, shall we start with the front of the sunday mirror this big splash, this big splash. partygate tapes , the first ever footage of tories breaking rules to revellers on boris's controversial honours line up are they're dancing away, having are they're dancing away, having a little drink. and crucially , a little drink. and crucially, seemingly joking about the fact that they were bending the rules. yes. and quite clearly tnow— rules. yes. and quite clearly tnow know— rules. yes. and quite clearly they knew they— t/tzi;~3 and quite clearly they knew they were bending the aatos— they knew they were bending the rates tnat— they knew they were bending the rules that the— they knew they were bending the rules that the restriction was at to — rules that the restriction was at to tna— rules that the restriction was at the time, which was in ostentat— at the time, which was in december-was- at the time, which was in december was that you december 2020, was that you soattn-t— december 2020, was that you couldn't socialise— december 2020, was that you couldn't socialise indoors . they couldn't socialise indoors. they are couldn't socialise indoors. they otoanw— couldn't socialise indoors. they are clearly doing— couldn't socialise indoors. they are clearly doing that. they're nawnt— are clearly doing that. they're nawnt a— are clearly doing that. they're nawnt a tnat— are clearly doing that. they're having a great time. lots of tank— having a great time. lots of tank ts— having a great time. lots of drink is being— having a great time. lots of drink is being taken. that's wow— drink is being taken. that's wow stow— drink is being taken. that's very clear from _ drink is being taken. that's very clear from the video of the poonto— very clear from the video of the poopto tnono. — very clear from the video of the people there. two— very clear from the video of the people there. two of them got nonows nat— people there. two of them got honours. but but— people there. two of them got honours. but but shaun bailey wno— honours. but but shaun bailey wno tot— honours. but but shaun bailey wno got a— honours. but but shaun bailey who got a peerage and who was won— who got a peerage and who was ten tnts— who got a peerage and who was ten tnts ts— who got a peerage and who was then this is his— who got a peerage and who was then this is his campaign team for then this is his campaign team to tonton— then this is his campaign team for london mayor.— then this is his campaign team for london mayor. he'd left by the for london mayor. he'd left by to tna— for london mayor. he'd left by the time this— for london mayor. he'd left by the time this video was taken. so the time this video was taken. so no-s— the time this video was taken. so no-s not— the time this video was taken. so he's not implicated in this ttnootw—

so he's not implicated in this ttnootw .— so he's not implicated in this directly , though. _ so he's not implicated in this directly , though. ben mallett, directly, though. ben mallett, wno— directly, though. ben mallett, wno was— directly, though. ben mallett, wno tna— directly, though. ben mallett, who was the campaign chief, he got who was the campaign chief, he tot an— who was the campaign chief, he got an ont— who was the campaign chief, he got an ont tn— who was the campaign chief, he got an obe in the— who was the campaign chief, he got an obe in the honours list. so got an obe in the honours list. so no— got an obe in the honours list. so to was— got an obe in the honours list. so no . — got an obe in the honours list. so he was . well,— got an obe in the honours list. so he was . �*ftt�*tzge got an obe in the honours list. so he was. well, i'm interested in this from the police investigation angle because at the time when this party came into the into into public view initially with those photos that we saw of this gathering going on, the police decided not to investigate, presumably the sunday mirror are now hoping with this new video footage that the police will then investigate it again. firstly, do you think that will happen? and secondly, do you think there is an appetite from the public for this to go on and on and on? well, the first question is,- well, the first question is, wttt— well, the first question is, wttt tna— well, the first question is, will the police— well, the first question is, will the police do it? i think tnat— will the police do it? i think tnat wnat— will the police do it? i think that what they've got to decide, wow-o— that what they've got to decide, you're absolutely— that what they've got to decide, you're absolutely right that too— you're absolutely right that too at.— you're absolutely right that tnow ttt. tnow— you're absolutely right that they did. they did. look it they did. they did. look into it tast— they did. they did. look into it tat-nonna— they did. they did. look into it first round. decided first time round. they decided tnono— first time round. they decided tnono-onoatn- first time round. they decided there enough evidence to there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. — there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. - wow,— there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. now, the video prosecute. now now, the video nas— prosecute. now now, the video nas sonne— prosecute. now now, the video has come-light— prosecute. now now, the video has come-light .— prosecute. now now, the video has come light. they prosecute. now now, the video has come light . they they may has come to light. they they may wett— has come to light. they they may wett-atatn— has come to light. they they may wett-atatn .— has come to light. they they may well-again . the— has come to light. they they may well again . the question well think again. the question the well think again. the question tne-nawe— well think again. the question tne-nawe to— well think again. the question the-have to ask- the police have to ask themselves- the police have to ask themselves would it be in themselves is, would it be in we— themselves is, would it be in the-interest- themselves is, would it be in the-interest to- themselves is, would it be in the interest to launch the public interest to launch anotnen— the public interest to launch another time— the public interest to launch another time consuming,

epenstwe— another time consuming, expensive investigation into tnts— expensive investigation into tnts e— expensive investigation into tnts e 0n— expensive investigation into tnts e tn as— expensive investigation into this ? or, as you— expensive investigation into this ? or, as you say, do we this? or, as you say, do we stnpw— this? or, as you say, do we stnow nove— this? or, as you say, do we simply move on? but that sort of an operattonat— simply move on? but that sort of an operational matter for the potte— an operational matter for the note e— an operational matter for the pottee e tne— an operational matter for the police ? the tories at the time police? the tories at the time were obviously— police? the tories at the time were obviously quite convinced tnts— were obviously quite convinced tnts partw— were obviously quite convinced tnts panw nat— were obviously quite convinced this party had broken the rules teeaase— this party had broken the rules teeaase ton— this party had broken the rules because for people who were at it because for people who were at tt — because for people who were at it were disciplined— because for people who were at it were disciplined for doing so . ant— it were disciplined for doing so . ant tn— it were disciplined for doing so . and in answer— it were disciplined for doing so . and in answer to— it were disciplined for doing so . and in answer to the second taestton— . and in answer to the second question, should— . and in answer to the second question, should we move on? wet— question, should we move on? wet, t— question, should we move on? wet, t tntnt— question, should we move on? well, i think that— question, should we move on? well, i think that i'd be guided by well, i think that i'd be guided to tne— well, i think that i'd be guided to tne potte— well, i think that i'd be guided by the police on— well, i think that i'd be guided by the police on this if they tntnt— by the police on this if they tntnt tt-s— by the police on this if they think it's worth— by the police on this if they think it's worth a long time investigation,— think it's worth a long time investigation, that's up to them . tn— investigation, that's up to them . tn tnettnet— investigation, that's up to them . i'm inclined to— investigation, that's up to them . i'm inclined to think that wotatw— . i'm inclined to think that wotatw as— . i'm inclined to think that probably as we— . i'm inclined to think that probably as we near the election , tnen— probably as we near the election , tnen tnene— probably as we near the election , then there will— probably as we near the election , then there will be— probably as we near the election , then there will be things more uppermost— , then there will be things more more uppermost in— , then there will be things more more uppermost in people's minds , twe— more uppermost in people's minds , ttte tnetn— more uppermost in people's minds , like their mortgages, the cost of , like their mortgages, the cost ot ttwnt— , like their mortgages, the cost ot ttwtnt .— , like their mortgages, the cost of living , maybe— , like their mortgages, the cost of living , maybe even climate of living, maybe even climate etante— of living, maybe even climate enante. t— of living, maybe even climate enante. ttwst— of living, maybe even climate change. i just think. of living, maybe even climate change. ijust think. change. i just think. sorry to tntenwt— change. i just think. sorry to interrupt, nigel, but i just think there's so much double standard edwards at the moment because of course, keir starmer , he was potentially implicated in what was considered by some to be a little bit of a party up in durham. korma beergate or whatever you want to call it. then we've got bernard jenkin,

who sat on the privileges privileges committee , motty that privileges committee, motty that is doing this party inquiry into bofis is doing this party inquiry into boris johnson that we're going to see debated in the commons tomorrow. it does seem everyone was at it. well, it does seem tnene-s— was at it. well, it does seem tnene-s teen— was at it. well, it does seem there's been a— was at it. well, it does seem there's been a bit— was at it. well, it does seem there's been a bit of- e well, it does seem there's been a bit of bad behaviour— there's been a bit of bad behaviour going on all over the state. — behaviour going on all over the state wett— behaviour going on all over the place. well, does— behaviour going on all over the place. well, does that- behaviour going on all over the place. e place. well, does that make it less bad? does that it less bad? does that make it harder people to single out harder for people to single out these individuals video these individuals in this video when as though these when it seems as though these sorts of things were happening elsewhere? well, sorts of things were happening e|good ere? well, sorts of things were happening e|good point./ell, sorts of things were happening e|good point. bear in mind, he a good point. bear in mind, he was investigated— a good point. bear in mind, he was investigated for first off, the was investigated for first off, tne nottee — was investigated for first off, the police decided there was no no twtnen— the police decided there was no no further action— the police decided there was no no further action needed for teen — no further action needed for teen nat— no further action needed for beer. but what— no further action needed for beer. but what if the mirror tnts— beer. but what if the mirror ttnts a— beer. but what if the mirror finds a video?— beer. but what if the mirror finds a video? well, and then he was investigated— finds a video? well, and then he was investigated a— finds a video? well, and then he was investigated a second time atten— was investigated a second time ate a— was investigated a second time after a number— was investigated a second time after a number of— was investigated a second time after a number of complaints, espeetatw— after a number of complaints, espeetatw tw— after a number of complaints, especially by tory mps. so he at— especially by tory mps. so he ttt to— especially by tory mps. so he ttt to town— especially by tory mps. so he did go through two investigations and it may well be tn— investigations and it may well be tn tnts— investigations and it may well be in this case— investigations and it may well be in this case the police would teette— be in this case the police would teette on— be in this case the police would teette on a— be in this case the police would decide on a second— decide on a second investigation. but it is up to ten — investigation. but it is up to them because— investigation. but it is up to them because they do cost a lot of them because they do cost a lot ot nonew— them because they do cost a lot ot nonew ant— them because they do cost a lot of money and take— them because they do cost a lot of money and take up a lot of anownnp ant— of money and take up a lot of manpower and moving on to keir stamen— manpower and moving on to keir stannen ant— manpower and moving on to keir starmer and his— manpower and moving on to keir starmer and his appointment of sue starmer and his appointment of sae enaw. — starmer and his appointment of see grav- wow— starmer and his appointment of see grav- wow .— starmer and his appointment of sue gray. tott ttittw starmer and his appointment of sue gray. \ttijt�*tt ttint e starmer and his appointment of sue gray. \ttint ttint i starmer and his appointment of sue gray. ttint ttint i

sue gray. now. now it seems as though she may well have broken whitehall impartiality rules. does that change things for keir starmer does that, he says he's a stickler for the rules. he he presents a whiter than white image , but actually this is all image, but actually this is all looking deeply fishy and i felt it a little bit gaslit at the time being told that no, no, no, nothing to see here, nothing to see here. when a top mandarin who is in charge of a report into boris johnson and his partying is then hired by keir starmer, it does look dodgy. nigel , think does nigel yeah, i think it does because i she was very because i mean, she was very much of propriety in much sort of ms propriety in the, in government. that was her job. the, in government. that was her tot. net— the, in government. that was her tot. neat-ot— the, in government. that was her tot. herjob was— the, in government. that was her job. herjob was to— i 3 that was her job. herjob was to actually job. her job was to actually potte— job. her job was to actually nottee-ant- job. her job was to actually police-and so-so| job. her job was to actually. police-and so-so it's police ethics and so on. so it's not— police ethics and so on. so it's not a— police ethics and so on. so it's not a toot— police ethics and so on. so it's not a good look— police ethics and so on. so it's not a good look that she may nave— not a good look that she may nave woken— not a good look that she may have broken the— not a good look that she may have broken the rules herself. tnts— have broken the rules herself. tnts ts— have broken the rules herself. tnts ts teat— have broken the rules herself. this is bear in— have broken the rules herself. this is bear in mind, this is a teatet— this is bear in mind, this is a teatet retort.— this is bear in mind, this is a leaked report. we— this is bear in mind, this is a leaked report. we haven't seen the leaked report. we haven't seen tne tnat— leaked report. we haven't seen the final one.— leaked report. we haven't seen the final one. what she seems to nave— the final one. what she seems to nave tone— the final one. what she seems to have done wrong— the final one. what she seems to have done wrong-to- the final one. what she seems to have done wrong to breach the have done wrong is to breach the ntntstenat— have done wrong is to breach the ministerial code— have done wrong is to breach the ministerial code .— have done wrong is to breach the ministerial code . sorry, the ministerial code. sorry, the ctwt— ministerial code. sorry, the civil service— ministerial code. sorry, the civil service code . and what civil service code. and what tnts— civil service code. and what we saws— civil service code. and what we saws ts— civil service code. and what this says is civil— civil service code. and what this says is civil servants nastn-t— this says is civil servants nastn-t te— this says is civil servants mustn't be talking to the opposttton— mustn't be talking to the opposition unless they unless

tnew— opposition unless they unless tnew teetane— opposition unless they unless they declare it,— opposition unless they unless they declare it, they must aetaatw— they declare it, they must aetwatw saw— they declare it, they must actually say they have a good reason for doing— actually say they have a good reason for doing it. she she apparentw— reason for doing it. she she apparently didn't do this so tnat— apparently didn't do this so tnat tt— apparently didn't do this so tnat tt ts— apparently didn't do this so tnat tt ts a— apparently didn't do this so that it is a bad— apparently didn't do this so that it is a bad look in that sne— that it is a bad look in that sense. she may— that it is a bad look in that sense. she may have broken the antes— sense. she may have broken the antes t— sense. she may have broken the antes t ton-t— sense. she may have broken the rules. i don't quite— sense. she may have broken the rules. i don't quite see how teta— rules. i don't quite see how keir starmer— rules. i don't quite see how keir starmer would have done so. it's keir starmer would have done so. tt-s not— keir starmer would have done so. tt-s not exactn— keir starmer would have done so. it's not exactly be— keir starmer would have done so. it's not exactly be the same eonnansona— it's not exactly be the same comparison as— it's not exactly be the same comparison as with with partygate-— comparison as with with nanwtate. tt— comparison as with with partygate. it wasn't him taeattnt— partygate. it wasn't him breaking the— partygate. it wasn't him breaking the rules. but yes, she went— breaking the rules. but yes, she nttnt nave— breaking the rules. but yes, she might have done— breaking the rules. but yes, she might have done well. she's he put might have done well. she's he ant nea— might have done well. she's he pnt tea tn— might have done well. she's he pnt tea tn a— might have done well. she's he put her in a very difficult position. then if he was meeting with her, he knew . must have with her, he knew. must have known that was against whitehall rules, against impartiality , rules, against impartiality, rules, against impartiality, rules to be doing so. so he very much is implicated in this. well, we're having own well, we're having our own investigation— well, we're having our own investigation now. like investigation now. it's like anottea— investigation now. it's like another privilege. i investigation now. it's like another privilege. i mean, how many— another privilege. i mean, how many do we many investigators do we currently about currently have going on about various parliamentary misconduct currently have going on about varitcivilarliamentary misconduct currently have going on about varitcivilarliameimisconduct?iuct and civil service misconduct? how much money is this taking? well, bear in mind also we're going— well, bear in mind also we're goinglgo_ well, bear in mind also we're going-90 through- well, bear in mind also we're going go through partygate. well, bear in mind also we're goiiover go through partygate. well, bear in mind also we're goiiover again rough partygate. well, bear in mind also we're goiiover again with] partygate. well, bear in mind also we're goiiover again with] paicovid. allover again with the covid town.— all over again with the covid tntntwlwe— all over again with the covid inquiry. we haven't actually inquiry. so we haven't actually aetnattw— inquiry. so we haven't actually aetnattw ant— inquiry. so we haven't actually actually put behind but actually put it behind us. but eeatatntw— actually put it behind us. but oeatatntw t— actually put it behind us. but certainly, i mean,— actually put it behind us. but certainly, i mean, whether or not— certainly, i mean, whether or not te— certainly, i mean, whether or not te tnew— certainly, i mean, whether or not he knew at— certainly, i mean, whether or not he knew at the time that he tn— not he knew at the time that he tn taeaet— not he knew at the time that he was in breach of— not he knew at the time that he was in breach of in— not he knew at the time that he was in breach of in breach of any— was in breach of in breach of any antes— was in breach of in breach of any antes .— was in breach of in breach of

any antes , tn— was in breach of in breach of any rules , i'm not sure he could any rules, i'm not sure he could tave— any rules, i'm not sure he could tawe known— any rules, i'm not sure he could have known whether or not she wont— have known whether or not she would, declared _ have known whether or not she would, declared the meetings tnat— would, declared the meetings ttat-wontt— would, declared the meetings that-would-had- would, declared the meetings that-would-had .- would, declared the meetings that would had . and would, declared the meetings- that-would-had . and as that she would have had. and as far that she would have had. and as taa as— that she would have had. and as taa as tne— that she would have had. and as far as the criticism _ that she would have had. and as far as the criticism of her over tne— far as the criticism of her over the investigation— far as the criticism of her over the investigation into partygate , ste— the investigation into partygate , ste ttt— the investigation into partygate ,ste ttt tnto— the investigation into partygate , she did into boris johnson of tnat— , she did into boris johnson of course, that happened long tetoae— course, that happened long before this— course, that happened long before this took— course, that happened long before this took place. i think wow— before this took place. i think very nast— before this took place. i think very much that you could level hypocrisy. the accusation of hypocrisy. the accusation of hypocrisy on keir starmer with all this. he does present himself as being different from the conservative gives no sleaze here, no miss propriety here, no bad behaviour. but here, no miss propriety here, no bad behaviour . but actually bad behaviour. but actually i think a lot of us think all is bad as each other. but someone's just written into me. ray in chigwell, he says, i do not know anyone who did not break the rules from a mental health perspective. although tried, rules from a mental health perspe stepped hough tried, rules from a mental health perspe stepped hougthe tried, rules from a mental health perspe stepped hougthe line td, we all stepped over the line just look at bernard jenkins for a start. let's move and a start. let's move on and go forward. all our sakes. forward. for all our sakes. except jenkins, he's except jenkins, because he's a hypocrite. he needs punishment. bernard jenkins, of sits bernard jenkins, of course, sits on that privileges committee that has ruled , well, not in that has ruled, well, not in bofis that has ruled, well, not in boris johnson's favour one bit.

so is there an accusation there? should he have recused himself from being on that committee ? from being on that committee? yeah, actually, i think he stontt— yeah, actually, i think he stontt. t— yeah, actually, i think he should. i mean, if he was aware at tne— should. i mean, if he was aware at tte tne— should. i mean, if he was aware at the time that— should. i mean, if he was aware at the time that he— should. i mean, if he was aware at the time that he had broken the at the time that he had broken tte antes— at the time that he had broken the rules, then— at the time that he had broken the rules, then while that investigation— the rules, then while that investigation was going on, he stontt— investigation was going on, he stontt te— investigation was going on, he should he should— investigation was going on, he should he should have recused ttnsett— should he should have recused ttnsett. t— should he should have recused himself. i mean,— should he should have recused himself. i mean, all i would say atont— himself. i mean, all i would say atont atont— himself. i mean, all i would say about about the— himself. i mean, all i would say about about the whole privileges aenoat— about about the whole privileges aenoat ts— about about the whole privileges report is there's— about about the whole privileges report is there's an— about about the whole privileges report is there's an awful lot of report is there's an awful lot ot son— report is there's an awful lot ot soat ot— report is there's an awful lot of sort of displacement activity going— of sort of displacement activity totnt on— of sort of displacement activity totnt on wteae— of sort of displacement activity going on where people are are esaeetatw— going on where people are are especially boris— going on where people are are especially boris johnson and his cheerleaders— especially boris johnson and his cheerleaders ,_ especially boris johnson and his cheerleaders , trying to pick out cheerleaders, trying to pick out ttese— cheerleaders, trying to pick out these various— cheerleaders, trying to pick out these various things. bernard tenttns— these various things. bernard tenttns ante— these various things. bernard jenkins rule breaking . there's jenkins rule breaking. there's atso— jenkins rule breaking. there's atso tte— jenkins rule breaking. there's also the argument of a harriet hanan— also the argument of a harriet harman, whether— also the argument of a harriet harman, whether she should have enset— harman, whether she should have recused herself— harman, whether she should have recused herself or— harman, whether she should have recused herself or making statements— recused herself or making statements against boris johnson tetoaetant— statements against boris johnson tetoaetant .— statements against boris johnson beforehand . and— statements against boris johnson beforehand . and so there's a lot beforehand. and so there's a lot of beforehand. and so there's a lot ot tnat— beforehand. and so there's a lot of that happening.— beforehand. and so there's a lot of that happening. the police eontt— of that happening. the police oontt .— of that happening. the police oontt , ot— of that happening. the police could , of course,— of that happening. the police could , of course, investigate. could, of course, investigate. teanaat— could, of course, investigate. bernard jenkin— could, of course, investigate. bernard jenkin if— could, of course, investigate. bernard jenkin if they chose to. tootness— bernard jenkin if they chose to. tootness ne— bernard jenkin if they chose to. goodness me, i— bernard jenkin if they chose to. goodness me, i am— bernard jenkin if they chose to. goodness me, i am not sure there is goodness me, i am not sure there ts an— goodness me, i am not sure there ts an ataettte— goodness me, i am not sure there is an appetite for— goodness me, i am not sure there is an appetite for that, but ntease— is an appetite for that, but ptease to— is an appetite for that, but please do let— is an appetite for that, but please do let me know at home if you ttsawee— please do let me know at home if you ttsataee, tt— please do let me know at home if you disagree, if you— please do let me know at home if you disagree, if you want to see all you disagree, if you want to see at ttese— you disagree, if you want to see all these people— you disagree, if you want to see all these people bang to right tnwestttatet— all these people bang to right investigated and— all these people bang to right investigated and various tntntates— investigated and various inquiries to— investigated and various

inquiries to go to see if inquiries to go on to see if anonew— inquiries to go on to see if anonew ttt— inquiries to go on to see if anyone did anything in the least bit anyone did anything in the least ttt waont— anyone did anything in the least ttt waont — anyone did anything in the least ttt waont tnt— anyone did anything in the least bit wrong. but i— anyone did anything in the least bit wrong. but i now- anyone did anything in the least bit wrong. but i now have my panel with me to see what they make these stories. joining make of these stories. joining me mp stephen me is former labour mp stephen pound, and we also have political claire political commentator claire pearsall keep pearsall with me. we will keep nigel as well for his nigel with us as well for his astute analysis . so thank you astute analysis. so thank you very much for joining astute analysis. so thank you very much forjoining me astute analysis. so thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. what a beautiful atteanoon— afternoon. what a beautiful afternoon to _ afternoon. what a beautiful afternoon to join— i what a beautiful afternoon to join you. c afternoon to join you. it is a teantttnt— afternoon to join you. it is a beautiful afternoon. minute beautiful afternoon. any minute now, be rolling now, the thunder will be rolling in the lightning will be in or the lightning will be crashing be crashing down and it'll be a perfect metaphor for british politics. is beautiful. did politics. that is beautiful. did you rehearse before you you rehearse that before you said did not. it just rolls said i did not. it just rolls off tongue. inspired me. off the tongue. inspired me. stephen. beautiful way with words. i must admit i must words. but i must admit i must be truthful. honest with the audience and say we are actually in a basement so we cannot see what's happening outside. but stephen insists it is a beautiful day. i wouldn't know. but anyway, take it from me. it's turned out nice. again, not a weat— it's turned out nice. again, not a taeat taw— it's turned out nice. again, not a taeat taw toa— it's turned out nice. again, not a great day for all— it's turned out nice. again, not a great day for all of these aeopte— a great day for all of these people wto— a great day for all of these people who have been pictured at this people who have been pictured at ttts pant. — people who have been pictured at this party. bombshell- people who have been pictured at this party. g this party. bombshell footage is what the sunday mirror calls it

. stephen, is this bombshell footage ? well, it's horrible at footage? well, it's horrible at so many— footage? well, it's horrible at so many levels— footage? well, it's horrible at so many levels .— footage? well, it's horrible at so many levels . i— 3“ well, it's horrible at so many levels . i mean, like so many levels. i mean, like you,— so many levels. i mean, like won t— so many levels. i mean, like won, a sense— so many levels. i mean, like won, t a— so many levels. i mean, like you, i sense a feeling of i just wtst— you, i sense a feeling of i just wtst ttts— you, i sense a feeling of i just wish this would— you, i sense a feeling of i just wish this would go away when you see wish this would go away when you sonetotw— wish this would go away when you see somebody in— wish this would go away when you see somebody in a— wish this would go away when you see somebody in a gyles taantaett— see somebody in a gyles brandreth sweater jiving see somebody in a gyles brandreth sweaterjiving like it's brandreth sweaterjiving like tt-s tott — brandreth sweaterjiving like it's1959 and— brandreth sweaterjiving like it's 1959 and bumping brandreth sweaterjiving like it's1959 and bumping into a taestte— it's1959 and bumping into a trestle table— it's1959 and bumping into a trestle table laden with stodgy tatean— trestle table laden with stodgy tatean ant— trestle table laden with stodgy gateau and warm _ trestle table laden with stodgy gateau and warm white wine, you tttnt— gateau and warm white wine, you tttnt to— gateau and warm white wine, you think to yourself,— gateau and warm white wine, you think to yourself, gosh , why think to yourself, gosh, why cant— think to yourself, gosh, why cant t— think to yourself, gosh, why cant a te— think to yourself, gosh, why cant a be a— think to yourself, gosh, why can't i be a conservative? it toots— can't i be a conservative? it toots tte— can't i be a conservative? it looks like quite— can't i be a conservative? it looks like quite good fun. but in looks like quite good fun. but tn aeatttw— looks like quite good fun. but tn aeatttw .— looks like quite good fun. but in reality , it's— looks like quite good fun. but in reality , it's toe— looks like quite good fun. but in reality , it's toe curling, in reality, it's toe curling, toott— in reality, it's toe curling, tooth grindingly butt. clenchingly embarrassingly awtnt— clenchingly embarrassingly awtnt tnt— clenchingly embarrassingly awful. and it— clenchingly embarrassingly awful. and it really underlines ttts— awful. and it really underlines ttts wtote— awful. and it really underlines this whole business about one ante— this whole business about one ante toa— this whole business about one rule for them,— this whole business about one rule for them, one— this whole business about one rule for them, one rule for us. ant— rule for them, one rule for us. ant tn— rule for them, one rule for us. ant tn sonny,— rule for them, one rule for us. ant tn soaw, t— rule for them, one rule for us. and i'm sorry, i think paul ctenettntw— and i'm sorry, i think paul clenchingly i— and i'm sorry, i think paul clenchingly i weep for rishi, tnt— clenchingly i weep for rishi, but clenchingly_ clenchingly i weep for rishi, but clenchingly embarrassingly awtnt — but clenchingly embarrassingly awtnt okay.— but clenchingly embarrassingly awful. okay. that's- but clenchingly embarrassingly awful. i awful. okay. that's what stephen has to say. claire well, i think tnat— has to say. claire well, i think ttat we— has to say. claire well, i think that we, we knew— claire well, i think that we, we knew these parties tat— that we, we knew these parties tat tone— that we, we knew these parties tat tone — that we, we knew these parties had gone on. we'd— that we, we knew these parties had gone on. we'd seen photographs— had gone on. we'd seen photographs that had been put out photographs that had been put ont tteae— photographs that had been put ont tteae. tn— photographs that had been put out there. i'm not— photographs that had been put out there. i'm not sure i can tottow— out there. i'm not sure i can tottow tntte— out there. i'm not sure i can follow quite the— out there. i'm not sure i can follow quite the statement of stenten— follow quite the statement of stenten inst— follow quite the statement of stephen just now. that was quite sonetttnt— stephen just now. that was quite sonetttntltnt— stephen just now. that was quite somethingibut it's— stephen just now. that was quite something but it's , it's just something, but it's, it's just not— something, but it's, it's just not a— something, but it's, it's just not a toot— something, but it's, it's just not a good look.— something, but it's, it's just not a good look. and you do have to wontea— not a good look. and you do have to wontea wtw— not a good look. and you do have to wonder why this— not a good look. and you do have to wonder why this video has ont— to wonder why this video has come out now.— to wonder why this video has come out now. why have they taken— come out now. why have they taten att— come out now. why have they taken at ot— come out now. why have they taken all of that— come out now. why have they taken all of that time when the

ntototaant— taken all of that time when the photograph,-still- photograph, the still photographs last photographs were released last year?— photographs were released last wean-inst— photographs were released last wean-inst atts- photographs were released last year?-just adds to- photographs were released last year? just adds to the year? so it just adds to the ot— year? so it just adds to the woes of rishi _ year? so it just adds to the woes of rishi sunak parties aent— woes of rishi sunak parties aent totnt— woes of rishi sunak parties aren't going away. covid isn't going— aren't going away. covid isn't totnt away.— aren't going away. covid isn't totnt away- tnt— aren't going away. covid isn't going away. and the sweater, i tave— going away. and the sweater, i tawe to— going away. and the sweater, i tawe to saw— going away. and the sweater, i have to say, was— going away. and the sweater, i have to say, was on sale in the nonse— have to say, was on sale in the tonse ot— have to say, was on sale in the house of commons— have to say, was on sale in the house of commons shop. oh, no, it house of commons shop. oh, no, tt — house of commons shop. oh, no, tt tt— house of commons shop. oh, no, tt tt — house of commons shop. oh, no, it was. it was. it— house of commons shop. oh, no, it was. it was. it had— it was. it was. it had portcullises- it was. it was. it had portcullises and big bens and all portcullises and big bens and at soats— portcullises and big bens and at soats on— portcullises and big bens and all sorts on it.— portcullises and big bens and all sorts on it. so— portcullises and big bens and all sorts on it. so there's a spectat— all sorts on it. so there's a speetat ntaee— all sorts on it. so there's a special place for- all sorts on it. so there's a special place for that christmas tnnnea— special place for that christmas tnnnea . — special place for that christmas jumper . t— special place for that christmas jumper . ttttnt— special place for that christmas jumper. i think people i think the general public are very divided this. i think a lot divided over this. i think a lot of people look at what's going on the economy, on when it comes to the economy, housing, etcetera housing, migration, etcetera, etcetera, oh, etcetera, and they think, oh, for , do we still for goodness sake, do we still need to banging on about need to be banging on about bombshell parties bombshell footage about parties that place two, three years that took place two, three years ago? well, it is it is still raw in many cases. there's a good tatent— in many cases. there's a good tatent ot— in many cases. there's a good friend of mine— in many cases. there's a good friend of mine who's- in many cases. there's a good friend of mine who's a- i i there's a good friend of mine who's a dup mp in strangfordt_ friend of mine who's a dup mp in strangfordt a— friend of mine who's a dup mp in strangford, a man— friend of mine who's a dup mp in strangford, a man called jim stannon.— strangford, a man called jim shannon. and— strangford, a man called jim shannon. and middle of shannon. and in the middle of all shannon. and in the middle of at ttts— shannon. and in the middle of all this business,— shannon. and in the middle of all this business, jim shannon's nottea— all this business, jim shannon's nottea tn— all this business, jim shannon's notteatn-to— all this business, jim shannon's mother in .to whom- all this business, jim shannon's mother in to whom he was mother in law, to whom he was tewotet— mother in law, to whom he was devoted,-died,_ mother in law, to whom he was devoted,-died, and- mother in law, to whom he was devoted, died, and he was devoted, had died, and he was nnatte— devoted, had died, and he was nnatte-tte— devoted, had died, and he was unable the funeral, unable to attend the funeral, was-to— unable to attend the funeral, was-to see her- unable to attend the funeral, was-to see her she was unable to see her before she ttet— was unable to see her before she ttt-toa— was unable to see her before she ttet-toa a— was unable to see her before she died.-for a lot— was unable to see her before she died.-for a lot of— was unable to see her before she died. for a lot of people died. and for a lot of people tte— died. and for a lot of people ttte-tteae-s- died. and for a lot of people like there's plenty of like jim and there's plenty of neonte— like jim and there's plenty of neoate-tteae— like jim and there's plenty of people there like that, this people out there like that, this is people out there like that, this ts—aaw tt- is still very, very raw. it tnts— is still very, very raw. it tnats. t— is still very, very raw. it hurts. i mean,-

is still very, very raw. it hurts. i mean, i hope it goes away— hurts. i mean, i hope it goes away ant— hurts. i mean, i hope it goes away ant t— hurts. i mean, i hope it goes away and i hope— hurts. i mean, i hope it goes away and i hope it goes away teanse— away and i hope it goes away because there's— away and i hope it goes away because there's an expression of eontattton— because there's an expression of oontattton taon — because there's an expression of contrition from these people who say,— contrition from these people who sttt-90t— contrition from these people who saw-totlwaont. - contrition from these people who say, got wrong. \ttint say, look, we got it wrong. now tn— say, look, we got it wrong. now ttt-tet— say, look, we got it wrong. now ttt-net wow- say, look, we got it wrong. now i'm get your thoughts i'm going to get your thoughts later show about keir later on in the show about keir starmer and the appointment of sue i must be off sue gray. well, i must be off today that. yes, today about that. but yes, because up a little because you turned up a little bit that's all we've got bit late. that's all we've got time for. for i'll see you time for. for now. i'll see you back in just one moment. claire pearsall as well as stephen pound, of course, you are watching and listening to gb news with emily news sunday with me, emily carville. got lots more carville. we've got lots more coming on today's show with coming up on today's show with the news prolific the shocking news that prolific serial bellfield has serial killer levi bellfield has won to marry in prison. won his bid to marry in prison. disgusting. disgusting. disgusting. it is disgusting. i'll should prisoners i'll be asking, should prisoners be to the i do be allowed to tie the knot? i do not so . but what do you not think so. but what do you think? that after these think? all of that after these short messages ? not

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wentw— double standards at play here? wendy fundamentally wendy says fundamentally all ttese—aae— these gatherings are a reflection— these gatherings are a reflection that those in nostttons— reflection that those in positions of— reflection that those in positions of power influence positions of power and influence did positions of power and influence ttt-tettewe— positions of power and influence did-believe in- did not truly believe in lockdown.— did not truly believe in lockdown. i— did not truly believe in lockdown. i agree with you tteae— lockdown. i agree with you tteae. wtw— lockdown. i agree with you there. why then run a counter tntoanatton— there. why then run a counter information unit— there. why then run a counter information unit on those who tatet— information unit on those who tatet to— information unit on those who tatet to stop— information unit on those who tried to stop the— information unit on those who tried to stop the madness? and tonn—wto- tried to stop the madness? and john _who cares- tried to stop the madness? and. john _who cares about john has to say, who cares about tanwtatee— john has to say, who cares about tanwtatee tt-s— john has to say, who cares about partygate? it's all— john has to say, who cares about partygate? it's all a— john has to say, who cares about partygate? it's all a big distraction.— partygate? it's all a big distraction. get with fixing distraction. get on with fixing ttts— distraction. get on with fixing ttts oonntw. — distraction. get on with fixing this country. and— distraction. get on with fixing this country. and yes , there is this country. and yes, there is a tot— this country. and yes, there is a tot to— this country. and yes, there is a tot to ttt.— this country. and yes, there is a tot to ttx. t— this country. and yes, there is a lot to fix. i agree with you, to te — a lot to fix. i agree with you, to be honest.— a lot to fix. i agree with you, to be honest. john may be an nnaopntaa— to be honest. john may be an unpopular opinion, but i think i'm unpopular opinion, but i think tn-ant— unpopular opinion, but i think i'm-and tired— unpopular opinion, but i think i'm-and tired of- unpopular opinion, but i think i'm and tired of hearing i'm sick and tired of hearing atont— i'm sick and tired of hearing about partygate— i'm sick and tired of hearing about partygate and all of this nawet— about partygate and all of this nawet-ant— about partygate and all of this nawet-antiot- about partygate and all of this navel and of these navel gazing and all of these twesoast— navel gazing and all of these investors nations.— navel gazing and all of these investors nations. but please do teen— investors nations. but please do teen-wews— investors nations. but please do keep -views coming - keep your views coming in. i know— keep your views coming in. i know many— keep your views coming in. i know many ot— keep your views coming in. i know many of you feel very tttteaenttw. — know many of you feel veryj differently. _our differently. subscribe to our tontnte— differently. subscribe to our youtube at youtube channel while you're at it. youtube channel while you're at t. tottow— youtube channel while you're at it. follow-twitter.- youtube channel while you're at it. follow twitter. we're it. follow us on twitter. we're athews.— it. follow us on twitter. we're athews. tn— it. follow us on twitter. we're at.news. i'm at- it. follow us on twitter. we're at news. i'm at carver. emily at gb news. i'm at carver. emily wow— at gb news. i'm at carver. emily wow nowtnt— at gb news. i'm at carver. emily wow nowtntlto— at gb news. i'm at carver. emily now moving to something that now moving on to something that is now moving on to something that ts—tn- is absolute disgusting in my wew— is absolute disgusting in my view, reprehensible should view, reprehensible and should not—seatatl

not be allowed. prolific serial ttttea— not be allowed. prolific serial killer-bellfield- not be allowed. prolific serial killer bellfield is going killer levi bellfield is going to te— killer levi bellfield is going to be allowed— killer levi bellfield is going to be allowed to get married in natson— to be allowed to get married in natson.-stants.— to be allowed to get married in prison. stands. bell field prison. as it stands. bell field is prison. as it stands. bell field ts sewtnt— prison. as it stands. bell field ts sewtnt two— prison. as it stands. bell field is serving two whole life orders for is serving two whole life orders to tttttnt— is serving two whole life orders to tttttnt ao— is serving two whole life orders for killing 13 year— is serving two whole life orders for killing 13 year old milly nowtea.— for killing 13 year old milly dowler. marsha— for killing 13 year old milly dowler. marsha mcdonnell and anette— dowler. marsha mcdonnell and anette te— dowler. marsha mcdonnell and anette te ta— dowler. marsha mcdonnell and amelie de la grange. he is the onw— amelie de la grange. he is the ontw nan— amelie de la grange. he is the only tn— amelie de la grange. he is the only man in britain to ever be twen— only man in britain to ever be ten two— only man in britain to ever be given two whole— only man in britain to ever be given two whole life orders . given two whole life orders. tt-s— given two whole life orders. tt-s atso— given two whole life orders. it's also reported he's won a ttt— it's also reported he's won a ttt to— it's also reported he's won a ttt to te— it's also reported he's won a bid to be given— it's also reported he's won a bid to be given £30,000 in legal aid bid to be given £30,000 in legal at to— bid to be given £30,000 in legal aid to challenge— bid to be given £30,000 in legal aid to challenge the initial teetston— aid to challenge the initial decision to— aid to challenge the initial decision to block his marriage . decision to block his marriage. ton— decision to block his marriage. ton oonttn-t— decision to block his marriage. you couldn't make it up. should onsoneas— you couldn't make it up. should onsoneas te— you couldn't make it up. should prisoners be allowed to marry or is prisoners be allowed to marry or ts ttts— prisoners be allowed to marry or is this another— prisoners be allowed to marry or is this another example of our sottness— is this another example of our softness when— is this another example of our softness when it— is this another example of our softness when it comes to crime ant— softness when it comes to crime ant senat— softness when it comes to crime and serial killers?— softness when it comes to crime and serial killers? joining me ts— and serial killers? joining me now is nadia— and serial killers? joining me now is nadia essex, dating coach ant— now is nadia essex, dating coach ant-ttetstew— now is nadia essex, dating coach and bleksley, former met and peter bleksley, former met teteettwe, — and peter bleksley, former met detective, now— and peter bleksley, former met detective, now ,_ and peter bleksley, former met detective, now , nadia, are you detective, now, nadia, are you going— detective, now, nadia, are you totnt to— detective, now, nadia, are you going to defend— detective, now, nadia, are you going to defend this man's right to ttts— going to defend this man's right to this serial— going to defend this man's right to this serial killers right to many— to this serial killers right to man a — to this serial killers right to many e wett— to this serial killers right to marry ? well, i— to this serial killers right to marry ? tittiee i to this serial killers right to marry ? i e marry? well, i mean, look, it's a very, very difficult subject, obviously, because , you know, obviously, because, you know, it's very emotive and there's lots of different aspects at play lots of different aspects at play here. and really, more than anything , play here. and really, more than anything, you play here. and really, more than anything , you know, if it's if anything, you know, if it's if he's legally allowed to, then

he's legally allowed to, then he's legally allowed to. and whoever makes the laws , if that whoever makes the laws, if that needs to be changed and that needs to be changed and that needs to be changed. but i just worry more for the welfare of the woman because she's you know, she must i wonder how sort of mentally stable she is that she thinks that this is an appropriate thing to do. and i think that it should be, you know, as long as things have to be well fed all the way down the line and to make sure that her welfare is the number one priority, to make sure that she's being manipulated, she's not being manipulated, she's not being manipulated, she's being , you know, she's not being, you know, abused in terms of emotional abuse, to suck her in. um, and yeah , it's very, very tough yeah, it's very, very tough because ultimately kwasi that particular case, you'd think no, but in general, when people are in prison, if they fall in love, then in theory , you know, you then in theory, you know, you think to yourself not just maybe, but i mean he's obviously a very different you're a you're a very different you're a you're a dating expert. what type of woman wants to— a dating expert. what type of woman wants to marry- t:i g what type of woman wants to marry a serial

ttttea— woman wants to marry a serial ttttea wto— woman wants to marry a serial ttttea wto ts— woman wants to marry a serial killer who is banged up because tteae— killer who is banged up because tteae ts— killer who is banged up because tteae ts ttts— killer who is banged up because there is this is— killer who is banged up because there is this is a— killer who is banged up because there is this is a thing that we tn— there is this is a thing that we tn sootetw. — there is this is a thing that we see in society. i've— there is this is a thing that we see in society. i've watched documentaries— see in society. i've watched documentaries on it over in the states.— documentaries on it over in the states. usually— documentaries on it over in the states. usually people will, you know,— states. usually people will, you know tetnt— states. usually people will, you know, being attracted to men who are incarcerated— know, being attracted to men who are incarcerated .— know, being attracted to men who are incarcerated . but yeah, i are incarcerated. but yeah, i , t— are incarcerated. but yeah, i mean , i think— are incarcerated. but yeah, i mean , i think it— are incarcerated. but yeah, i mean , i think it just i mean, mean, i think it just i mean, tt-s— mean, i think it just i mean, tt-s not— mean, i think it just i mean, tt-s not een— mean, i think it just i mean, it's not even when people think, oh, it's not even when people think, on tt-s— it's not even when people think, on tt-s .— it's not even when people think, on tt-s , won— it's not even when people think, oh, it's , you know,— it's not even when people think, oh, it's , you know, vulnerable oh, it's, you know, vulnerable women or women— oh, it's, you know, vulnerable women or women that, um , you women or women that, um, you know,— women or women that, um, you know a— women or women that, um, you know a ton-t— women or women that, um, you know, i don't know,— women or women that, um, you know, i don't know, need their teats— know, i don't know, need their heads checked— know, i don't know, need their heads checked or— know, i don't know, need their heads checked or whatever. but it heads checked or whatever. but tt an— heads checked or whatever. but tt tappen— heads checked or whatever. but tt tappen. t— heads checked or whatever. but it can happen. i mean, you know, we've got in this country , we've got in this country, lauren goodger fell in love with the guy that she fell in love with, was in prison. and with, and he was in prison. and it just off with, you it just starts off with, you know, writing or on the phone and can fall in love with and you can fall in love with someone so it's not someone that way. so it's not necessarily vulnerable women all the time. yeah, but we just have to make sure if they're going to get then they've to get married, then they've got to be very odd be massive welfare. very odd indeed. peter. i mean, this is inst— indeed. peter. i mean, this is just ludicrous,— indeed. peter. i mean, this is just ludicrous, isn't- :: peter. i mean, this is just ludicrous, isn't it, aeattw— just ludicrous, isn't it, really, that- just ludicrous, isn't it, really, that a- just ludicrous, isn't it, really, that a serial killer eontt— really, that a serial killer could possibly— really, that a serial killer could possibly be allowed to many— could possibly be allowed to many wttte— could possibly be allowed to

marry while they're serving wtote— marry while they're serving wtote tte— marry while they're serving whole life sentences ? is whole life sentences? is nntttnte— whole life sentences? is multiple whole life sentences ? multiple whole life sentences? tte— multiple whole life sentences? tte taw— multiple whole life sentences? the law needs— multiple whole life sentences? the law needs to— multiple whole life sentences? the law needs to change here. do nnsoneas— the law needs to change here. do onsoneas to— the law needs to change here. do prisoners do serial— the law needs to change here. do prisoners do serial killers tesewe— prisoners do serial killers deserve their— prisoners do serial killers deserve their human rights with ttnts— deserve their human rights with nttts tone— deserve their human rights with rights come responsibilities . rights come responsibilities. ant— rights come responsibilities. ant tteae— rights come responsibilities. ant tteae ts— rights come responsibilities. and there is a— rights come responsibilities. and there is a responsibility upon us all not to prowl the streets and murder brilliant young women and defenceless children . and that's what this children. and that's what this monster did. and i'm also going to mention on the utterly heroic kate sheedy, who bellfield also tried to kill. but for fortunately failed. and despite her injuries and the trauma she got up in the witness box at the old bailey and courageously gave so much evidence which went a long way to ensuring that bellfield will never taste freedom again. i call upon alex chalk mp, the lord chancellor, or any other sitting mp to put before the commons tomorrow a one line bill which reads simply

people serving life sentences should not be allowed to marry whilst in jail. should not be allowed to marry whilst in jail . that's it. a one whilst in jail. that's it. a one line law. get everybody behind it in the commons, get it through before the summer recess and get it on the statute book. i mean, peter, i think that would probably be the most popular bill ever put before parliament, i imagine. i think people parliament, i imagine. i think people aeattnt— parliament, i imagine. i think people reading and— 37�*6�*1 ititg i think people reading and reminding ttensetwes— people reading and reminding themselves of— people reading and reminding themselves of this man's heinous wttt— themselves of this man's heinous crimes will completely agree wttt— crimes will completely agree wttt won. — crimes will completely agree wttt won. tnt— crimes will completely agree with you. but just on the teneaat— with you. but just on the general point— with you. but just on the general point about prisoners ant— general point about prisoners ant tteta— general point about prisoners and their human— general point about prisoners and their human rights, do you tttnt— and their human rights, do you tttnt ttat— and their human rights, do you think that we— and their human rights, do you think that we are— and their human rights, do you think that we are too soft when it think that we are too soft when tt ooes— think that we are too soft when tt to— think that we are too soft when it comes to inmates? do you tttnt— it comes to inmates? do you tttnt ttat— it comes to inmates? do you think that they— it comes to inmates? do you think that they have too many tnnan— think that they have too many tnnan ttnts— think that they have too many human rights, or— think that they have too many human rights, or is this really tnnoatant— human rights, or is this really tnaonant toa— human rights, or is this really important for us— human rights, or is this really important for us to be to be a wett— important for us to be to be a wot a— important for us to be to be a wot a tne— important for us to be to be a well, a fine society essentially , we to. — well, a fine society essentially , we to. we— well, a fine society essentially , we do. we need— well, a fine society essentially , we do. we need to give ansoneas— , we do. we need to give prisoners their- , we do. we need to give prisoners their human rights in oatea— prisoners their human rights in oatea to— prisoners their human rights in order to uphold— prisoners their human rights in order to uphold that in the mat-onw— order to uphold that in the natontw ot— order to uphold that in the majority of cases, punishment wtttont— majority of cases, punishment without rehabilitation is a oonntete— without rehabilitation is a complete and—

without rehabilitation is a complete and utter waste of ttne. — complete and utter waste of ttne. tnt— complete and utter waste of time. but bellfield- complete and utter waste of time. : tie complete and utter waste of time. : ii : ti; i time. but bellfield will die in prison. he cannot be rebuilt, stated he is beyond the pale. he is subhuman . he is a monster. he is subhuman. he is a monster. he lost any rights whatsoever when he prowled the streets, murdered young women and children on multiple occasions . he's multiple occasions. he's a monster. i have absolutely no concerns about his rights . but concerns about his rights. but of course other prisoners serving lesser sentences very much do need to be rehabilitated. so when the day that they are released, does come around, they can re—enter society and become contributing members of the public. that sounds a lot like i that sounds a lot like common sense. teten— sounds a lot like common sense. teten ttant— sounds a lot like common sense. peter, thank you _ sounds a lot like common sense. peter, thank you very much tnteet. — peter, thank you very much tnteet. sonny.— peter, thank you very much indeed. sorry. that's all we've got— indeed. sorry. that's all we've got tne— indeed. sorry. that's all we've got ttne toa— indeed. sorry. that's all we've got ttne to a— indeed. sorry. that's all we've got time for a little bit stneezet— got time for a little bit squeezed there. nadia essex tattnt— squeezed there. nadia essex tattnt ooaot— squeezed there. nadia essex dating coach and peter bleksley tonnea— dating coach and peter bleksley former - detective. - dating coach and peter bleksley former detective. you former met detective. thank you wew—t- former met detective. thank youi wew—t tettewe very much indeed. now i believe we—taeattnt- very much indeed. now i believe we_breaking news.- we have some breaking news. wtoota— we have some breaking news. nicola sturgeon— we have some breaking news. nicola sturgeon has returned to her nicola sturgeon has returned to tea toa— nicola sturgeon has returned to tea to tone— nicola sturgeon has returned to her for home the— nicola sturgeon has returned to her for home the first time snoe— her for home the first time tea— her for home the first time since her arrest— her for home the first time

since her arrest last sunday. it tast— since her arrest last sunday. it was last sunday— since her arrest last sunday. it was last sunday that we reported ttat— was last sunday that we reported ttat ste— was last sunday that we reported ttat ste tat,— was last sunday that we reported that she had, in— was last sunday that we reported that she had, in fact, been aaaestet— that she had, in fact, been arrested. she— that she had, in fact, been arrested. she was released wtttont— arrested. she was released without charge _ arrested. she was released without charge . she's told without charge. she's told aeooateas— without charge. she's told reporters that— without charge. she's told reporters that she is certain ste— reporters that she is certain ste tas— reporters that she is certain she has done— reporters that she is certain she has done nothing wrong and ttat— she has done nothing wrong and ttat ste— she has done nothing wrong and that she intends— she has done nothing wrong and that she intends to— she has done nothing wrong and that she intends to be back in paattanent— that she intends to be back in parliament early— that she intends to be back in parliament early this week and wttt— parliament early this week and wttt mate— parliament early this week and will make herself— parliament early this week and will make herself available for tnesttons— will make herself available for questions then. _ will make herself available for questions then. very interesting tnteet. — questions then. very interesting tnteet. wett— questions then. very interesting indeed. we'll follow up on that. won— indeed. we'll follow up on that. ton ane— indeed. we'll follow up on that. you are watching— indeed. we'll follow up on that. you are watching and listening to on— you are watching and listening to on news— you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily cante— to gb news sunday with me, emily oawttte. we-we— to gb news sunday with me, emily carville. we've got— to gb news sunday with me, emily carville. we've got lots more oontnt— carville. we've got lots more oontnt nn— carville. we've got lots more oontnt no on— carville. we've got lots more coming up on today's show with the coming up on today's show with tte tonnea— coming up on today's show with the former prime— coming up on today's show with the former prime minister facing a—tooaaow on- a crunch vote tomorrow on that tatwtetes— privileges committee recommendation and a watchdog ttnttnt— recommendation and a watchdog ttnttnt-tn— recommendation and a watchdog finding in violation of finding him in violation of parliamentary— finding him in violation of- parliamentary—again, parliamentary standards. again, for parliamentary standards. again, ton-new— parliamentary standards. again, ton-new natty— parliamentary standards. again, for new daily mail column. for his new daily mail column. is for his new daily mail column. ts ttts— for his new daily mail column. ts ttts tte— for his new daily mail column. is this the end— for his new daily mail column. is this the end of— for his new daily mail column. is this the end of the line for tot-oe— is this the end of the line for bojo? tnt— is this the end of the line for bojo? but first,— is this the end of the line for bojo? but first, let's get the wttt— bojo? but first, let's get the wttt .— bojo? but first, let's get the news with . aaron iti”ti; e news with. aaron hi there it is. 131 aaron armstrong here with you in the gb news room. well, as you've just heard, nicola sturgeon says she's done nothing wrong in her relation to her arrest over snp finances. the

former first minister spoke as she returned home for the first time since being arrested and released without charge last sunday. ms sturgeon refused to answer any questions, but will do so when she returns to holyrood early next week . the holyrood early next week. the levelling up secretary, michael gove, has apologised for what he's described as unacceptable behaviour at a conservative staff party during lockdown , staff party during lockdown, saying he's personally sorry . in saying he's personally sorry. in the video obtained by the mirror , partygoers can be heard joking about bending the rules while others dance in front of tables of food and drink. at least 24 people attended the christmas party in 2020 tory party party in 2020 at tory party headquarters during the height of the pandemic. when indoor socialising banned . two of socialising was banned. two of those in that party were named in boris johnson's resignation honours list . more than 10,000 honours list. more than 10,000 people have been detected crossing the english channel in small boats so far this year. home office figures have confirmed crossings have increased in recent days as the

weather has improved, with more than 2500 making the journey in the past week . however, the the past week. however, the total number of crossings this year remains below the equivalent number at this point last year , and the uk has last year, and the uk has pledged an extra £16 million to boost ukraine's cyber defences. that's in addition to 6.35 million promised last year. that's in addition to 6.35 million promised last year . the million promised last year. the government says it's to help ukraine defend itself better against critical infrastructure attacks from russia. the prime minister will use a summit this week to call on investors and businesses to step up their support for the country's economic and it all economic recovery. and it all comes amid reports of fresh gains by ukraine in the zaporizhzhia region. in their counter—offensive against russia . more on all those stories on our website, gb news. .com .

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. otannet— people's channel. britain's news . channel welcome— people's channel. britain's news . channel welcome back- i britain's news . channel welcome back to gb wews. — . channel welcome back to gb wews. snntaw— . channel welcome back to gb news. sunday with- . channel welcome back to gb news. : news. sunday with me, emily carver. we have my migrated to the comfortable more comfortable sofas here in the studio and you've been getting in touch thick and fast , really about thick and fast, really about belfield , levi bellfield serial belfield, levi bellfield serial killer who won his battle to marry his girlfriend in prison, which is absolutely disgusting in my view. stephen, you wanted to get something in. you wanted to get something in. you wanted to say something on here's a key thing. this is a very crafty, ttttttons— thing. this is a very crafty, litigious man.— thing. this is a very crafty, litigious man. i— g this is a very crafty, litigious man. i remember him wten— litigious man. i remember him wten te— litigious man. i remember him wten te nset— litigious man. i remember him when he used to— litigious man. i remember him when he used to be a wheel otannet— when he used to be a wheel otannea tn— when he used to be a wheel clamper in hounslow. it's very otose— clamper in hounslow. it's very otose to— clamper in hounslow. it's very close to home— clamper in hounslow. it's very close to home for— clamper in hounslow. it's very close to home for me. if he marries this— close to home for me. if he marries this woman, then marries this woman, he will then tenant— marries this woman, he will then tenant-ttnts. - marries this woman, he will then demand rights. because demand conjugal rights. because if demand conjugal rights. because n_aa,- demand conjugal rights. because n_ta, tt- if under the marriage act, if a naaatate— if under the marriage act, if a nantate tsn-t— if under the marriage act, if a marriage isn't consummated, it te— marriage isn't consummated, it can be dissolved.— marriage isn't consummated, it can be dissolved. so he will tten— can be dissolved. so he will tten-ant— can be dissolved. so he will then-and this- can be dissolved. so he will then-and this is- can be dissolved. so he will then and this is man, then say, and this is a man, ton-t— then say, and this is a man, ton-t tatet,— then say, and this is a man, don't forget, who - then say, and this is a man, don't forget, who tried to cite tte— don't forget, who tried to cite tte-conn- don't forget, who tried to cite tte-oonat ot- don't forget, who tried to cite the court of human the european court of human ttttts—anl rights. i'm not wearing an engagement— rights. i'm not wearing an engagement will then engagement ring. he will then say engagement ring. he will then saw-tave— engagement ring. he will then say have conjugal rights say i must have conjugal rights ant—tn— say i must have conjugal rights ant—tn an- say i must have conjugal rights and—in an area- say i must have conjugal rightsi and—in an area that and then we are in an area that is and then we are in an area that ts so— and then we are in an area that ts so teen,— and then we are in an area that ts so teen tant— and then we are in an area that is so deep, dark and disgusting ttat— is so deep, dark and disgusting ttat t— is so deep, dark and disgusting ttat t tttnt— is so deep, dark and disgusting that i think blakely's law needs

to-not— that i think blakely's law needs to-not inst— that i think blakely's law needs to-not tnst toa- that i think blakely's law needs to not just for people to come in not just for people sewtnt— to come in not just for people sewtnt-ttte— to come in not just for people serving life sentences, serving whole life sentences, tnt— serving whole life sentences, tent—wtst- serving whole life sentences,. but_prison..you're but anybody in prison. if you're onw— but anybody in prison. if you're ontw tn— but anybody in prison. if you're only tn wtson— but anybody in prison. if you're only in prison for— but anybody in prison. if you're only in prison for a— but anybody in prison. if you're only in prison for a short staetot. — only in prison for a short stretch. -till- only in prison for a short stretch. till you only in prison for a short- stretch. -till you .out. stretch. wait till you get out. wototw— stretch. wait till you get out. nobody-should- stretch. wait till you get out. nobody should be able nobody in prison should be able to-stn— nobody in prison should be able to-stnltttnt— nobody in prison should be able to-sir,lthink most- to marry sir, i think most neoate— to marry sir, i think most people would— to marry sir, i think most people would agree that serial tttteas— people would agree that serial. killers—conjugal killers should not have conjugal atttts. — killers should not have conjugal rights. _absolutely. i- rights. yeah, absolutely. i mean, rights. yeah, absolutely. i mean-tte- rights. yeah, absolutely. i mean,-the lives. rights. yeah, absolutely. i mean,-the lives of| rights. yeah, absolutely. i- mean,-the lives of three mean, he took the lives of three young— mean, he took the lives of three wonnt-at— mean, he took the lives of three wonnt-at-ttaeel young women, at least three young— young women, at least three young-who- young women, at least three young-who will- young women, at least three young who will never get young women who will never get the young women who will never get tte—to— young women who will never get tte—to naaw-toi the opportunity to marry and go on ant— the opportunity to marry and go on ant twe— the opportunity to marry and go on and live their— the opportunity to marry and go on and live their lives. so atsotntew— on and live their lives. so absolutely disgusting that he stontt— absolutely disgusting that he should-allowed- absolutely disgusting that he should allowed to from should be allowed to do so from natson. —wonteai prison. well, bob says wonder how family feel. how the victim's family feel. bnng how the victim's family feel. bring capital punishment bring back capital punishment for these monsters who carry out these crimes. i these heinous crimes. i think a lot in my inbox today lot of you in my inbox today would like to well, capital would like to see, well, capital punishment for these types of crimes. that's a debate for crimes. but that's a debate for another time . welcome back to gb another time. welcome back to gb news. sunday, we're going to be moving to the civil war over moving on to the civil war over the scandal, which the partygate scandal, which shows signs of abating shows no signs of abating after johnson branded findings johnson branded the findings deranged sparked row deranged. that sparked a row amongst mps about whether amongst tory mps about whether or to vote for the report on or not to vote for the report on monday. tomorrow the committee, however describing however, hit back describing johnson's as johnson's conduct as disingenuous to the point of being misleading being deliberately misleading and to be he to be

and recommending to be he to be stripped of the pass afforded to former mps that would have granted him access to the parliamentary estate. the affair hasn't ruined mrjohnson's hasn't ruined mr johnson's revenue streams, however. on friday he announced his new column at the daily mail. let's have a look. he's going to be exactly what i think . exactly what i think. folk all folks boris johnson. here i exactly what i think. folk all folks borisjohnson. here i am folks boris johnson. here i am thrilled folks boris johnson. here i am ttatttet to— folks boris johnson. here i am thrilled to be— folks boris johnson. here i am thrilled to be asked— folks boris johnson. here i am thrilled to be asked to- thrilled to be asked to contribute _ thrilled to be asked to contribute a - thrilled to be asked to contribute a column to the daily ttatt— contribute a column to the daily ttatt- tt— contribute a column to the daily ttatt- tt ts— contribute a column to the daily matt at ts totnt— contribute a column to the daily mail. it is going to— contribute a column to the daily mail. it is going to be oonptetew— mail. it is going to be completely unexpurgated stuff . i completely unexpurgated stuff. i may— completely unexpurgated stuff. i may een— completely unexpurgated stuff. i may tawe— completely unexpurgated stuff. i may even have to— completely unexpurgated stuff. i may even have to cover politics, tnt— may even have to cover politics, tnt ttt— may even have to cover politics, but i'll obviously— may even have to cover politics, but i'll obviously try to do ttat— but i'll obviously try to do ttat as— but i'll obviously try to do that as little— but i'll obviously try to do that as little as- but i'll obviously try to do that as little as possible nntess— that as little as possible wtess t— that as little as possible unless i absolutely have to. i'm nnot— unless i absolutely have to. i'm nnot toottnt— unless i absolutely have to. i'm much looking forward to making my tast— much looking forward to making my first contribution to those tttnstatons— my first contribution to those illustrious pages— my first contribution to those illustrious pages on saturday. toan— illustrious pages on saturday. join me— illustrious pages on saturday. on me tn— illustrious pages on saturday. join me in the— illustrious pages on saturday. join me in the daily mail on satnataw. — join me in the daily mail on satnataw. t— join me in the daily mail on saturday. i don't- join me in the daily mail on saturday. t:tit" e saturday. i don't know about you, but i thought he might use his first column in the daily mail to give us some juicy details on what's been going on with the investigation against

him with him and his relationship with rishi sunak we got a lot rishi sunak know, we got a lot of words about a weight loss jab, didn't work for him, jab, which didn't work for him, but go. joining me now but there you go. joining me now is but there you go. joining me now ts tetoa— but there you go. joining me now is peter edwards,— but there you go. joining me now is peter edwards, former- e"tiil”tiil git joining me now is peter edwards, former editor of labourlist_ is peter edwards, former editor of labourlist and— is peter edwards, former editor of labourlist and dr. rikki weave— neave, social policy analyst. ttant— neave, social policy analyst. ttat-wew— neave, social policy analyst. thank-very much- neave, social policy analyst. thank-very much to- neave, social policy analyst. thank-very much to you. neave, social policy analyst. thank very much to you both thank you very much to you both for joining me this afternoon on gb sunday. raqeeb, i'll go gb news sunday. raqeeb, i'll go to you first, boris johnson , to you first, boris johnson, does have a way forward? is does he have a way forward? is it is he finished? well i mean, if there's one person or rather one politician who would be able to ashes it to re—emerge from the ashes it looks like he's in the doldrums. and then makes some sort of stnnntnt— and then makes some sort of stunning recovery. it would be tons— stunning recovery. it would be boris johnson,— stunning recovery. it would be boris johnson, but saying that i tttnt— boris johnson, but saying that i tttnt ttat— boris johnson, but saying that i think that this— boris johnson, but saying that i think that this entire partygate oonaoweastw— think that this entire partygate controversy has— think that this entire partygate controversy has been deeply tanattnt— controversy has been deeply tanattnt toa— controversy has been deeply damaging for his reputation , his damaging for his reputation, his next.— damaging for his reputation, his next. tons— damaging for his reputation, his brexit. boris brand has taken a neat— brexit. boris brand has taken a neat ttt— brexit. boris brand has taken a neat ttt .— brexit. boris brand has taken a neat ttt. tt— brexit. boris brand has taken a real hit. if you— brexit. boris brand has taken a real hit. if you see brexit. boris brand has taken a real hit . if you see recent real hit. if you see recent notttnt— real hit. if you see recent aotttnt .— real hit. if you see recent aotttnt , tt— real hit. if you see recent polling , if voters who are still polling, if voters who are still teneaattw— polling, if voters who are still generally supportive of their own decision— generally supportive of their own decision to— generally supportive of their own decision to vote to leave tte— own decision to vote to leave tte tnaonean— own decision to vote to leave the european union and still wew— the european union and still wew nnot— the european union and still wew nnot wo— the european union and still very much pro brexit in their nottttoat— very much pro brexit in their political appetites, they don't

see political appetites, they don't tons— political appetites, they don't see boris johnson as a pantontaatw— see boris johnson as a particularly trust worthy or oonaetent— particularly trust worthy or competent figure . so i think competent figure. so i think wten— competent figure. so i think wten won— competent figure. so i think wten won see— competent figure. so i think when you see those polling newes— when you see those polling tttwes ant— when you see those polling figures and the— when you see those polling figures and the damage he's done to nts— figures and the damage he's done to tts on— figures and the damage he's done to his own personal— figures and the damage he's done to his own personal political oanttat— to his own personal political oanttat t— to his own personal political oanttat t to— to his own personal political capital, i do think it'd be very tttttontt— capital, i do think it'd be very difficult for— capital, i do think it'd be very difficult for boris— capital, i do think it'd be very difficult for boris johnson to mate— difficult for boris johnson to makelrecovery_ difficult for boris johnson to make recovery as an individual make a recovery as an individual nottttotan— make a recovery as an individual aottttotan. wow— make a recovery as an individual politician. now peter, do you state— politician. now peter, do you state ttat— politician. now peter, do you share that view— politician. now peter, do you share that view or do you think tteae— share that view or do you think tteae oontt— share that view or do you think there could be— share that view or do you think there could be a— share that view or do you think there could be a comeback? �*ttt�*tit there could be a comeback? who knows— there could be a comeback? who knows? tons— there could be a comeback? who knows ? boris clearly— there could be a comeback? �*ttt�*tit 7” boris clearly wants to knows? boris clearly wants to taot. — knows? boris clearly wants to come back. he'll— , boris clearly wants to come back. he'll never be prime tttntstea— come back. he'll never be prime minister again. _ come back. he'll never be prime minister again. and— come back. he'll never be prime minister again. 't: ll minister again. and he'll probably never be leader again of party. i think the of the tory party. i think the air is going out of his balloon very quickly. as some of your other today's other coverage of today's headunes other coverage of today's headlines shows is a mixture of controversy the tory controversy amongst the tory party lies in several areas of his life and career , including his life and career, including to the house of commons. then all the other activities that he does to keep going his celebrity status , which will him status, which will help him financially and everyone's entitled to earn living , but entitled to earn a living, but they won't help him achieve what he to do, is to be he wants to do, which is to be a credible candidate, either as leader of opposition or to leader of the opposition or to be prime minister. think be prime minister. so i think the is out of his the air is going out of his balloon. and bear in there

balloon. and bear in mind, there has to be a leadership contest for have this for boris to try and have this comeback. doesn't want be comeback. he doesn't want to be shadow chancellor more shadow chancellor or a more junior minister. bear in junior minister. but bear in mind, there have around, mind, there have been around, i think, three leadership attempts. one, the other attempts. he won one, the other two when rishi sunak and theresa may won, he didn't even make it to the starting line. and that's because, again because, as we've seen again this week, a quitter, not a this week, he's a quitter, not a fighter. rikki neave there's tnteaesttnt— g rikki neave there's interesting polling out today in the interesting polling out today in tte snntaw— interesting polling out today in the sunday times. i don't know if the sunday times. i don't know tt wone— the sunday times. i don't know tt wowwe seen— the sunday times. i don't know if you've seen it— the sunday times. i don't know if you've seen it that shows ttat— if you've seen it that shows ttat tttstt — if you've seen it that shows that rishi sunak sunak is now 20 notnts— that rishi sunak sunak is now 20 aotnts ateat— that rishi sunak sunak is now 20 points ahead of— that rishi sunak sunak is now 20 points ahead of boris johnson wten— points ahead of boris johnson wten tt— points ahead of boris johnson when it comes— points ahead of boris johnson when it comes to— points ahead of boris johnson when it comes to popularity in the when it comes to popularity in tte aet— when it comes to popularity in tte aet watt— when it comes to popularity in the red wall. well, the red wall seenet— the red wall. well, the red wall seenet to— the red wall. well, the red wall seemed to support— the red wall. well, the red wall seemed to support among the red watt— seemed to support among the red wall—generalisel wall seats if you can generalise seems-wanna— wall seats if you can generalise seems waning when it comes seems to be waning when it comes to tons— seems to be waning when it comes to tons totnson— seems to be waning when it comes to boris johnson, who was the snneastaa— to boris johnson, who was the superstar-course- to boris johnson, who was the superstar course gave the superstar who of course gave the tow— superstar who of course gave the tow-an— superstar who of course gave the tow-an so— superstar who of course gave the tow-an so seat— superstar who of course gave the tory an 80 seat majority, tory party an 80 seat majority, not ttat— tory party an 80 seat majority, not ttat tone— tory party an 80 seat majority, not that long ago.— tory party an 80 seat majority, not that long ago. no absolutely. - not that long ago. no absolutely. ' t: not that long ago. no absolutely. t: e"tiil”tiil not that long ago. no absolutely. t: eiti;”ti; not that long ago. no- absolutely. and there was this talk of boris being the boris johnson being the heineken tory. he able appeal voter he was able to appeal to voter groups that many traditional tories are not to do. so in tories are not able to do. so in the past. but that was the point i was making earlier, that in the so—called red wall, many of

those post—industrial pro—leave constituencies and his brand has taken a real hit because what those voters want, just like in any other part of the country, they're ultimately focussed on political competence and policy delivery and perhaps they may many of them may well have reached the view that boris johnson is draining a great deal of time and energy out of our politics, which is not particularly helpful in the middle of a cost of living crisis that many left behind areas in the so—called red wall areas in the so—called red wall are particularly vulnerable to. peter, very lastly , do you peter, just very lastly, do you tttnt— peter, just very lastly, do you tttnt t— peter, just very lastly, do you think i think— peter, just very lastly, do you think i think a— peter, just very lastly, do you think i think a lot the think i think a lot of the nnttto— think i think a lot of the anttto ane— think i think a lot of the public are hearing think i think a lot of the- public are-hearing about public are sick of hearing about tons— public are sick of hearing about tons-ton— public are sick of hearing about boris-you see- public are sick of hearing about boris-you see the- boris johnson. you see the onaosttton— boris johnson. you see the opposition going on endless aattw— opposition going on endless rally—johnson. opposition going on endless. rally—johnson. this rally about boris johnson. this tons— rally about boris johnson. this boris johnson— rally about boris johnson. this boris johnson did— rally about boris johnson. this boris johnson did that. are we at-ot— boris johnson did that. are we at-ot stnntw— boris johnson did that. are we at of simply looking like at risk of simply looking like are at risk of simply looking like won— at risk of simply looking like are you looking— at risk of simply looking like are you looking like a bully at the are you looking like a bully at tte nonente— are you looking like a bully at the moment? really you know, te-s— the moment? really you know, te-s-teaten— the moment? really you know, he's-beaten and- the moment? really you know, he's beaten and beaten and he's been beaten and beaten and beaten— he's been beaten and beaten and beaten-beaten— he's been beaten and beaten and beaten beaten down. is it beaten and beaten down. is it tne— beaten and beaten down. is it ttne-teawe— beaten and beaten down. is it time-leave him - beaten and beaten down. is it time leave him alone ? time to just leave him alone? tes— time to just leave him alone? tes-tte— time to just leave him alone? he's-the prime- time to just leave him alone? he's the prime minister he's not the prime minister annnwoe— he's not the prime minister annnwoae . te-s— he's not the prime minister anymore . he's not even an mp . anymore. he's not even an mp. wett— anymore. he's not even an mp. wet. to— anymore. he's not even an mp. wet. to two— anymore. he's not even an mp. well, it's two reasons- well, it's two reasons i disagree with that. one is boris continues to search for the

limelight and boris continues to break the rules. and we've seen that with the daily mail column this week, for which i'd imagine he's fairly handsome sum he's paid a fairly handsome sum and the commons group on business appointments gave initial view that he'd he'd broken the rules . the other broken the rules. the other reason why i don't think it comes anywhere near close to bullying and is because boris is own behaviour you know think about what he's said about other groups in the past insulting the people of merseyside . comparing people of merseyside. comparing muslim women to letterboxes and so on and so on. boris is not a shrinking violet. he's been very blunt about other people , often blunt about other people, often extremely offensive. he cannot complain about newspapers simply writing things up factually well and let the viewers decide. thank you very much indeed. tetoa— thank you very much indeed. peter edwards, _ thank you very much indeed. peter edwards, former editor of tatonattst— peter edwards, former editor of labourlist and— peter edwards, former editor of labourlist and dr.— peter edwards, former editor of labourlist and dr. rakib ttsan-s— labourlist and dr. rakib ehsan's, social policy analyst. ttant— ehsan's, social policy analyst. ttant-nnot- ehsan's, social policy analyst. thank much indeed for thank you very much indeed for wow— thank you very much indeed for wow tne.— thank you very much indeed for wonattne. wow— thank you very much indeed for your time. now we're going to tow— your time. now we're going to ttaow taot— your time. now we're going to throw back wonderful throw back to my wonderful nanot— throw back to my wonderful nanet—tnowl throw back to my wonderful. panel, _ know, when panel, steven, you know, when ttttttn—tetttntl phillip schofield was getting a lot phillip schofield was getting a tot-oven— phillip schofield was getting a lot-over-scandal,. lot of heat over his scandal, ttttttn— lot of heat over his scandal, phillip schofield itv's this noantnt— phillip schofield itv's this morning and— phillip schofield itv's this morning and we spoke about, oh,

nawte— morning and we spoke about, oh, nawte we— morning and we spoke about, oh, maybe we should— morning and we spoke about, oh, maybe we should be thinking atont— maybe we should be thinking atont nts— maybe we should be thinking about his mental health. boris totnson— about his mental health. boris totnson .— about his mental health. boris totnson , te-s— about his mental health. boris johnson , he's been beaten over johnson, he's been beaten over the johnson, he's been beaten over tte teat— johnson, he's been beaten over the head with— johnson, he's been beaten over the head with a— johnson, he's been beaten over the head with a stick every state— the head with a stick every stntte taw— the head with a stick every single day, constantly in the tapes.— single day, constantly in the tapes. tes— single day, constantly in the papers. he's gorging himself in his papers. he's gorging himself in tts tattoo,— papers. he's gorging himself in his fridge, probably emotionally eattnt— his fridge, probably emotionally eattnt taon — his fridge, probably emotionally eating from all— his fridge, probably emotionally eating from all this. we seem to see eating from all this. we seem to ttn — eating from all this. we seem to ttnlttts— eating from all this. we seem to see him .this teflon - eating from all this. we seem to see him this teflon man that see him as this teflon man that you— see him as this teflon man that won-oonttnne- see him as this teflon man that you-continue to- see him as this teflon man that you continue to knock you can just continue to knock town.— you can just continue to knock town. ane— you can just continue to knock town. aae we— you can just continue to knock down. are welrisk- you can just continue to knock down. are we risk of bullying down. are we at risk of bullying too-oa— down. are we at risk of bullying too-on an— down. are we at risk of bullying too _or am italking - too much or am i talking atsotnte— too much or am i talking absolute nonsense? i don't absolute nonsense? well, i don't know.— absolute nonsense? well, i don't know. mean, he's obviously the know. i mean, he's obviously the soundtrack is soundtrack to his life is chumbawamba, isn't i get chumbawamba, isn't it? i get knocked down, but i get up again. but look, i have to say, can anyone any man sustain this level mutiny, level of screw mutiny, bombardment? i don't know. but look, i. read the mail on look, i. i read the mail on sunday for andrew pierce. it's worth reading for that. but i have to say, i was disappointed when i exactly like you. i wanted to hear the inside scoop on where he is. and rishi sunak increasingly unpleasant comments about just an ex—mp instead about he's just an ex—mp instead of which reading about of which i'm reading about chonzo of which i'm reading about chorizo . and i of which i'm reading about chorizo .and i mean chorizo and cheese. and i mean chonzo chorizo and cheese. and i mean chorizo is about as foreigners quinoa to me . chorizo is about as foreigners quinoa to me. i mean, i, you know, i have a greggs loyalty card. i don't know about these things, but i didn't want to

read it. not very sophisticated. stephen from west stephen no, i'm from west tonton— stephen no, i'm from west tonton tnt— stephen no, i'm from west london, but i— stephen no, i'm from west london, but i was i was disappointed,- london, but i was i was disappointed, but you just gave it disappointed, but you just gave tt tn— disappointed, but you just gave tt tn wow— disappointed, but you just gave it in your head— disappointed, but you just gave it in your head. _ disappointed, but you just gave it in your head. disappointed, but you just gave it in your head . i: it in your head. how could he come back? yeah and i don't see a scenario. well, come back? yeah and i don't see a scenario. well , claire a scenario. well, claire anttonw-s— i well, claire anthony's written in from toatsttae. — anthony's written in from yorkshire. he- anthony's written in from yorkshire. ti; anthony's written in from yorkshire. he says boris's only future is as a commentator because as a politician he went woke. he allowed mass illegal immigration. he abandoned northern ireland and adopted net zero. for me. the tories are zero. not for me. the tories are finished a generation . i finished for a generation. i can't but agree with that, can't help but agree with that, to honest. i agree with that. to be honest. i agree with that. ant— to be honest. i agree with that. ant t— to be honest. i agree with that. ant t tttnt— to be honest. i agree with that. ant t tttnt a— to be honest. i agree with that. and i think a lot— to be honest. i agree with that. and i think a lot of— to be honest. i agree with that. and i think a lot of the- and i think a lot of the wottens— and i think a lot of the problems is— and i think a lot of the problems is boris johnson goes out problems is boris johnson goes ont tteae— problems is boris johnson goes ont tteae ant— problems is boris johnson goes out there and says, everybody's tetnt— out there and says, everybody's tetnt wont— out there and says, everybody's being wrong. everybody's me. i tawen-t— being wrong. everybody's me. i tawen-t tone— being wrong. everybody's me. i haven't done anything wrong. but wten— haven't done anything wrong. but wten won— haven't done anything wrong. but wten won stan— haven't done anything wrong. but when you start to— haven't done anything wrong. but when you start to peel back, tet-s— when you start to peel back, tet-s owe— when you start to peel back, let's move partygate. just put ttat— let's move partygate. just put ttat to— let's move partygate. just put ttat to one— let's move partygate. just put that to one side.— let's move partygate. just put that to one side. but you look at tte— that to one side. but you look at tte net— that to one side. but you look at the net zero— that to one side. but you look at the net zero agenda, which is sonetttnt— at the net zero agenda, which is sonetttnt te— at the net zero agenda, which is something he pushed, which i tttnt— something he pushed, which i tttnt ts— something he pushed, which i think is wrong— something he pushed, which i think is wrong and it is costing aeonte—ant- think is wrong and it is costing people and thousands people thousands and thousands of people thousands and thousands ot-ttat— people thousands and thousands ot-ttat ttew— people thousands and thousands of-that they just- people thousands and thousands of that they just can't of pounds that they just can't attoat— of pounds that they just can't attoat at— of pounds that they just can't afford at the _ of pounds that they just can't afford at the moment. it's afford at the moment. but it's all afford at the moment. but it's att-aest— afford at the moment. but it's att-aestltts- afford at the moment. but it's all-restlhis policy. all of the rest of his policy teotstons— all of the rest of his policy decisions. he's— all of the rest of his policy decisions. he's a- all of the rest of his policy decisions. he's a superb communicator- decisions. he's a superb communicator , but a really, communicator, but a really, aeattw— communicator, but a really, aeattw tat— communicator, but a really,

really bad administra later and he really bad administra later and to ooes— really bad administra later and to nn— really bad administra later and he comes up with— really bad administra later and he comes up with these grand tteas— he comes up with these grand ideas-detail— he comes up with these grand ideas. detail behind it, no ideas. no detail behind it, no way— ideas. no detail behind it, no waw ot— ideas. no detail behind it, no waw ot toottnt— ideas. no detail behind it, no way of looking at— ideas. no detail behind it, no way of looking at how you aotnattw— way of looking at how you aotnattw nnt— way of looking at how you actually put these things ttaontt. — actually put these things through. and— actually put these things through. and i think that the sttne— through. and i think that the. sttne—neonte shine has come off and people are shine has come off and people aeattstnt— shine has come off and people are realising that— shine has come off and people are realising that what he is , are realising that what he is, is are realising that what he is, ts a— are realising that what he is, is a spokesperson, a very good tnt— is a spokesperson, a very good tnt not— is a spokesperson, a very good tnt not a— is a spokesperson, a very good one, but not a great politician . t— one, but not a great politician . t tttnt— one, but not a great politician . i think that's— one, but not a great politician . i think that's a— one, but not a great politician . i think that's a good- one, but not a great politician . i think that's a good way of putting it. the shine has has come off and he's he's fulfilled his his fulfilled his what we needed from him. we've got needed from him. but we've got some news now on the some breaking news now on the lockdown of lockdown party video of conservative party staffers appearing celebrate in appearing to celebrate in december 2020. the met police have now issued a statement saying they are aware of the footage and are considering it . footage and are considering it. well, that's reassuring, isn't it? yeah okay, good . if you look it? yeah okay, good. if you look at tte— it? yeah okay, good. if you look at tte aest— it? yeah okay, good. if you look at tte aest ot— it? yeah okay, good. if you look at the rest of that— e?” t/tiuiti okay, good. if you look at the rest of that report, you aotnattw— at the rest of that report, you actually referenced the sunday ttnes— actually referenced the sunday times analysis— actually referenced the sunday times analysis today. and tteae-s— times analysis today. and tteae-s a— times analysis today. and there's a very— times analysis today. and there's a very interesting thing nae,— there's a very interesting thing tteae, neataas— there's a very interesting thing there, perhaps a— there's a very interesting thing there, perhaps a lower down there, perhaps a bit lower down tnstte— there, perhaps a bit lower down tnstte-ttat— there, perhaps a bit lower down inside-that he's- inside to say that he's desperately- inside to say that he's desperately unpopular amongst the desperately unpopular amongst tte—tnessl the red wall seats. but guess wteae— where he's incredibly popular wttt—tantwl where he's incredibly popular wttt—taaw -i with the conservative party. now:— with the conservative party. wow, tte— with the conservative party. now, the conservative party is a stat— now, the conservative party is a snatt wont— now, the conservative party is a small group politically small group of politically nottwatet— small group of politically motivated mostly motivated men and women, mostly of motivated men and women, mostly ot-tant— motivated men and women, mostly

ot-tant on— motivated men and women, mostly ot-tant wto- motivated men and women, mostly of- hang on. who are- motivated men and women, mostly of hang on. who are you of my age. hang on. who are you tatttnt— of my age. hang on. who are you talking about? _ of my age. hang on. who are you talking about? boris— of my age. hang on. who are you talking about? ii talking about? boris johnson or bods talking about? boris johnson or boris johnson? and boris boris johnson? yes. and boris tonnson— boris johnson? yes. and boris totnson-wenw- boris johnson? yes. and boris johnson _very popular.| johnson is still very popular. so.— johnson is still very popular. so-ttew— johnson is still very popular. so-ttew-tte- johnson is still very popular. so.-they-the to so. and they have the power to seteot— so. and they have the power to seteot ant— so. and they have the power to select and deselect people. so i tttnt— select and deselect people. so i tttnt ttat-s— select and deselect people. so i think that's going— select and deselect people. so i think that's going to be very. tnt— think that's going to be very. tnt soaaw— think that's going to be very. tnt soaaw-t— think that's going to be very. but sorry,-i just- think that's going to be very. but sorry, i just say sorry? but sorry, may i just say sorry? tnat— but sorry, may i just say sorry? not on— but sorry, may i just say sorry? tnst on ttts— but sorry, may i just say sorry? just on this breaking— but sorry, may i just say sorry? just on this breaking news- just on this breaking news of the police are aware of the the met police are aware of the party are going party video. they are going to be in quotes considering it. the met have been under huge met police have been under huge amounts for not dealing amounts of heat for not dealing with crimes in london. with basic crimes in london. yeah you know, if you get your car nicked, you're very, very unlikely to get anything apart from a number from police to from a number from the police to then to your insurers. if then send to your insurers. if someone breaks into your house, you're unlikely to have a you're very unlikely to have a police officer come round. police officer even come round. let culprit. is let alone find the culprit. is this really what we want the police be spending their time police to be spending their time on taxpayers money? no, on and our taxpayers money? no, i don't think is. on and our taxpayers money? no, i don't think is . and i on and our taxpayers money? no, i don't thinklis . and i think- i don't think it is. and i think wonte— i don't think it is. and i think wonte nett— i don't think it is. and i think you're right that— i don't think it is. and i think you're right that the metropolitan police have an awtnt— metropolitan police have an awful responsibilities awful lot of responsibilities ttat— awful lot of responsibilities ttat ttewte— awful lot of responsibilities that they're following up. that they're not following up. ton—nape - that they're not following up. you—rape cases. that they're not following up. l you—rape cases that you look at the rape cases that tnattaas— you look at the rape cases that tnattaasltts— you look at the rape cases that burglarslhis-theft,- burglars, his car theft, anti—social— burglars, his car theft, anti—social behaviour. and just in anti—social behaviour. and just tn tonton— anti—social behaviour. and just in london alone— anti—social behaviour. and just in london alone ,_ anti—social behaviour. and just in london alone , that they don't in london alone, that they don't tawe— in london alone, that they don't tawe tte— in london alone, that they don't have the resources— in london alone, that they don't have the resources to go after ttat.— have the resources to go after that-ito— have the resources to go after that-ito 9°— have the resources to go after that..to go after- have the resources to go after that..to go after a- have the resources to go after that. to go after a group of that. so to go after a group of neonte—

that. so to go after a group of aeonte, wes— that. so to go after a group of aeonte, wes, tt-s— that. so to go after a group of people, yes, it's wrong . but people, yes, it's wrong. but atso— people, yes, it's wrong. but atso tt— people, yes, it's wrong. but atso tt opens— people, yes, it's wrong. but also it opens up— people, yes, it's wrong. but also it opens up a wider tnestton— also it opens up a wider tnestton tt— also it opens up a wider question if they're going to aetoot— question if they're going to aetoot at— question if they're going to relook at the— question if they're going to relook at the cchq conservative taatw. — relook at the cchq conservative taatw. wtat— relook at the cchq conservative party. what about— relook at the cchq conservative party. what about keir starmer's party,— party. what about keir starmer's nanw, wttot— party. what about keir starmer's party, which we've— party. what about keir starmer's party, which we've saw photographs- party, which we've saw photographs from? and i'm pretty tteae-tt— photographs from? and i'm pretty sure there'll be— photographs from? and i'm pretty sure there'll be some footage ton— sure there'll be some footage taon ttat. — sure there'll be some footage from that. our— sure there'll be some footage from that. our police forces now aetentnt— from that. our police forces now aetentnt to — from that. our police forces now referring to the— from that. our police forces now referring to the beer and korma teen— referring to the beer and korma teea ant— referring to the beer and korma beer and korma_ referring to the beer and korma beer and korma gates are we going— beer and korma gates are we totnt to— beer and korma gates are we totnt to to— beer and korma gates are we going to 90 back— beer and korma gates are we going to go back over it? well it going to go back over it? well tt ntttt— going to go back over it? well tt ntttt not— going to go back over it? well it might not be— going to go back over it? well it might not be you. well, hang on. it might not be you. well, hang ts— it might not be you. well, hang ts ttts— it might not be you. well, hang ts ttts a— it might not be you. well, hang on. is this a party?— it might not be you. well, hang on. is this a party? because i tate— on. is this a party? because i take ttat— on. is this a party? because i take that boris— on. is this a party? because i take that boris johnson was antnstet— take that boris johnson was ambushed with— take that boris johnson was ambushed with was that a party? if ambushed with was that a party? at wonte— ambushed with was that a party? at wonte going— ambushed with was that a party? at wonte totnt to— ambushed with was that a party? if you're going to investigate one, have to then one, i think you have to then start investigating, investigating that innocent, innocent up. oh, innocent bottle of beer up. oh, right . well, on, hang on, right. well, hang on, hang on, hang on. ah, the sunday mirror going to find a video from that event that then means the police need to investigate or could this be a little bit politically motivated by the mirror? senous motivated by the mirror? serious for that sort of thing? ton— serious for that sort of thing? ton know,— serious for that sort of thing? you know,.don't- serious for that sort of thing? you know, don't go around in you know, we don't go around in attastw— you know, we don't go around in a flashy christmas— you know, we don't go around in a flashy christmas jumpers ttnt— a flashy christmas jumpers livinga won— a flashy christmas jumpers jiving, you know because jiving, you know so because sootattsts— jiving, you know so because socialists can't— jiving, you know so because socialists can't fun there socialists can't have fun there you— socialists can't have fun there wonlttewte— socialists can't have fun there wonlttewte inst— socialists can't have fun there you they're just too boring you go they're just too boring ant— you go they're just too boring ant too— you go they're just too boring ant too too— you go they're just too boring and too too pious, perhaps too

on tte— and too too pious, perhaps too on tte tttn— and too too pious, perhaps too on the high ground to have fun. ttant— on the high ground to have fun. ttant won— on the high ground to have fun. ttant won weaw— on the high ground to have fun. thank you very much— on the high ground to have fun. thank you very much indeed for that. now, we are going to be moving on, i believe, to a very , very different story . but just , very different story. but just to reiterate that breaking news met police are aware of the party video. what is that? and they will be considering it. yes. i'm not really sure what that means. if we get more information, we will give it to you. an you. does it mean an investigation? sure. anyway, investigation? not sure. anyway, the legendary musical theatre composer andrew webber has composer andrew lloyd webber has hit at fears over cultural hit out at fears over cultural appropriation and wokeness after he was warned against an idea for a musical because he wasn't from that country. the theatre composer said if applied widely, this means some of his biggest hits, such as evita, wouldn't be made today . as he remarked, he made today. as he remarked, he was advised to stick to safe subjects like pride and prejudice. so is the much vaulted death of art upon us. has the woke mob managed to resurrect puritanism well , i resurrect puritanism well, i think this is a very good one to discuss because we have seen many people come out and say we

would never be able to produce this piece we'd never be this piece of art. we'd never be able to produce this play. claire. we'd able to claire. we'd never be able to produce magnificent piece produce this magnificent piece of now because not of writing now because it's not politically correct. and now, apparently you need to be from the country where the play is set in order to be able to write it. it means we are never going to tawe— it. it means we are never going to have beautiful— c it means we are never going to have beautiful theatre art or watttnt— to have beautiful theatre art or watttnt tn— to have beautiful theatre art or writing in this— to have beautiful theatre art or writing in this country. we have enontt— writing in this country. we have enough subjects— writing in this country. we have enough subjects of our own in ttts— enough subjects of our own in ttts oonntnw— enough subjects of our own in this country and— enough subjects of our own in this country and that's fair and fair this country and that's fair and tata ant— this country and that's fair and tata ant toot.— this country and that's fair and fair and good. but— this country and that's fair and fair and good. but things like twtta— fair and good. but things like twtta t— fair and good. but things like evita, i always— fair and good. but things like evita, i always remember ttstentnt— evita, i always remember listening to— evita, i always remember listening to the original soundtrack— listening to the original soundtrack and i was so obsessed wttt— soundtrack and i was so obsessed wttt tt— soundtrack and i was so obsessed wttt tt ttat— soundtrack and i was so obsessed wttt tt ttat t— soundtrack and i was so obsessed with it that i went— soundtrack and i was so obsessed with it that i went on to read atont— with it that i went on to read atont twa— with it that i went on to read about eva peron,— with it that i went on to read about eva peron, what was tapaentnt— about eva peron, what was tappentnt owe— about eva peron, what was happening over in south america, and happening over in south america, ant nw— happening over in south america, ant nw towe— happening over in south america, ant nw towe ot— happening over in south america, and my love of politics was aeattw— and my love of politics was aeattw tonn— and my love of politics was really born from _ and my love of politics was really born from something like ttat— really born from something like ttat .— really born from something like ttat. tt— really born from something like that. i'd never— really born from something like that. i'd never heard about it pantontaatw— that. i'd never heard about it particularly before. it wasn't tanttt— particularly before. it wasn't tanttt tn— particularly before. it wasn't tanttt tn nw— particularly before. it wasn't taught in my history classes at sotoot— taught in my history classes at sotoot ant— taught in my history classes at sotoot ant t— taught in my history classes at school, and i wanted to learn more. now, surely— school, and i wanted to learn more. now, surely that's what art more. now, surely that's what an ts— more. now, surely that's what an ts atont.— more. now, surely that's what art is about. theatre is about tattnt— art is about. theatre is about tattnt won— art is about. theatre is about tattnt won ont— art is about. theatre is about taking you out of— art is about. theatre is about taking you out of your normal oontoats— taking you out of your normal oontoats ant— taking you out of your normal comforts and surroundings and aeattnt— comforts and surroundings and aeattnt won— comforts and surroundings and aeattnt won a— comforts and surroundings and reading you a story, taking you ttaontt— reading you a story, taking you ttaontt too—

reading you a story, taking you through too much— reading you a story, taking you through too much common sense. otatae— through too much common sense. otatae toa— through too much common sense. otatae toa a— through too much common sense. claire for a sunday— through too much common sense. claire for a sunday afternoon, too much common sense. but that's what you would think . that's what you would think. stephen do you sometimes find yourself a little alienated from some people on the who seem some people on the left who seem to to go overboard when it to like to go overboard when it comes this accusations of comes to this accusations of cultural appropriation? what does that mean ? surely that does that mean? surely that sharing and caring to take on different things from around the world? well, i don't know. my wife is being upgraded- wife is being upgraded the other day wife is being upgraded the other taw toa— wife is being upgraded the other taw toa weaatnt— wife is being upgraded the other day for wearing a _ wife is being upgraded the other day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a— day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a son— day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a soat ot— day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a soat ot one— day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a sort of one of— day for wearing a shalwar kameez at a sort of one of our exciting sootat— at a sort of one of our exciting social occasions— at a sort of one of our exciting social occasions that we in the tatona— social occasions that we in the labour-rather— social occasions that we in the labour rather enjoy. and labour party rather enjoy. and oh labour party rather enjoy. and ot—aoonset- labour party rather enjoy. and oh_accused of- oh no, she was accused of onttnaattw— oh no, she was accused of culturally appropriating to wttot— culturally appropriating to wttot-ot— culturally appropriating to wttot-ot nw- culturally appropriating to which of my asian colleagues which one of my asian colleagues wto—sntt- which one of my asian colleagues wto—sntt ant- which one of my asian colleagues who—suit and tie. who was wearing a suit and tie satt— who was wearing a suit and tie satt satt— who was wearing a suit and tie said said, what— who was wearing a suit and tie said said, what does make said said, what does that make net— said said, what does that make not ste— said said, what does that make me? she .there_ said said, what does that make me? she .there he - said said, what does that make me? she there he was me? she said there he was weaatnt— me? she said there he was wearing-dress.- me? she said there he was wearing dress. but me? she said there he was- wearing-dress. but look. wearing western dress. but look. wett— wearing western dress. but look. wett tteae— wearing western dress. but look. wett tteae-no. — wearing western dress. but look. well, there-go. that's- well, there you go. that's breaking news, i heard breaking news, if ever i heard some. well, if you think some. yeah, well, if you think atont— some. yeah, well, if you think atont-won— some. yeah, well, if you think about-you know,— some. yeah, well, if you think about-you know, the- yeah, well, if you think about you know, the greatest about it, you know, the greatest atawwnttts— about it, you know, the greatest ptawwnttts tn— about it, you know, the greatest playwrights in this country and otatstontea— playwrights in this country and christopher-and- playwrights in this country and christopher and that christopher marlowe and that otan— chap, shakespeare. i mean, you know,— chap, shakespeare. i mean, you know-ttew— chap, shakespeare. i mean, you know,-they were- chap, shakespeare. i mean, you know, they were writing know, when they were writing snatesneaae,— know, when they were writing shakespeare, writing shakespeare, they were writing plays— shakespeare, they were writing| ataws—oonttn-t plays in which women couldn't apnea— plays in which women couldn't anew-so— plays in which women couldn't appear-so women. plays in which women couldn't appear so women were appear on stage. so women were played— appear on stage. so women were played ibex/s,— appear on stage. so women were played-boys,-know. - appear on stage. so women were played boys, know. so how played by boys, you know. so how on-do— played by boys, you know. so how on-do-aauauy— on earth do you actually talk about— on earth do you actually talk about-when— on earth do you actually talk about when consider on earth do you actually talk-

about-when .consider the about that when you consider the plays— about that when you consider the plays-that— about that when you consider the pteye-ehee eenee- plays written in that sense them— plays written in that sense them-olivier- then.7 laurence olivier played onene— then.7 laurence olivier played othello. remember othello. i remember that he blacked— othello. i remember that he blacked up,— othello. i remember that he blacked up, you— othello. i remember that he blacked up, you know, but he was a magnificent— blacked up, you know, but he was a magnificent surely a magnificent actor. surely the eee— a magnificent actor. surely the due-eh.— a magnificent actor. surely the clue _the word- a magnificent actor. surely the clue the word acting clue here is in the word acting .-mr— clue here is in the word acting .-mr sheen,- clue here is in the word acting .-mr sheen, who's. . and when mr sheen, who's a brimme— . and when mr sheen, who's a brilliant actor,— . and when mr sheen, who's a brilliant actor, says that only welsh— brilliant actor, says that only welsh-een— brilliant actor, says that onlyi welsh-can-welsh welsh people can play welsh pene— welsh people can play welsh pane-sorry,— welsh people can play welsh pane-sorry, eee- welsh people can play welsh parts, sorry, the essence of parts, i'm sorry, the essence of acting— parts, i'm sorry, the essence of acting is— parts, i'm sorry, the essence of acting as n— parts, i'm sorry, the essence of acting is i don't— parts, i'm sorry, the essence of acting is i don't think we want aeann— acting is i don't think we want actors blacking_ acting is i don't think we want actors blacking up on stage. i anne— actors blacking up on stage. i thank anae— actors blacking up on stage. i think that would _ actors blacking up on stage. i think that would be- actors blacking up on stage. i think that would be we- actors blacking up on stage. i think that would be we a- actors blacking up on stage. i think that would be we a few steps too far in 1958. that was in 1958. a very different time indeed. and of course was not indeed. and i, of course was not born. well, no, nobody can't speak to that time . but claire, speak to that time. but claire, i mean, we see this so much. i'm trying to think of the different people who've come out. ricky gervais, of course , has spoken gervais, of course, has spoken up about the woke madness. we've seen very many comedians, comedians appear on this comedians who appear on this channel, who found it difficult to get gigs because you have to sort line, not sort of tow one line, not a party line, but a sort of airy fairy middle of the road. let's not upset anyone unless it's about trump. but i think the arts are there to challenge you. comedy is there to be enjoyed. now:—

comedy is there to be enjoyed. new, tnene— comedy is there to be enjoyed. now, there are— comedy is there to be enjoyed. now, there are some comedians tnat— now, there are some comedians tnat n— now, there are some comedians tnat n nan-t— now, there are some comedians that i don't particularly like. it that i don't particularly like. n aaeen-t— that i don't particularly like. it doesn't mean— that i don't particularly like. it doesn't mean i want them eaneeuea.— it doesn't mean i want them cancelled. it— it doesn't mean i want them cancelled. it just— it doesn't mean i want them cancelled. it just means i won't anten— cancelled. it just means i won't neten ta— cancelled. it just means i won't listen to them.— cancelled. it just means i won't listen to them. i— cancelled. it just means i won't listen to them. i won't buy tenets— listen to them. i won't buy tickets ta— listen to them. i won't buy tickets to go _ listen to them. i won't buy tickets to go and see them. i nan-t— tickets to go and see them. i want anten— tickets to go and see them. i won't listen to— tickets to go and see them. i won't listen to what they've got to won't listen to what they've got ta- n — won't listen to what they've got ta-n nann— won't listen to what they've got to-i don't think- won't listen to what they've got to i don't think they to say, but i don't think they enanta— to say, but i don't think they enanta ne— to say, but i don't think they should be banned for it. and i really— should be banned for it. and i neatty feet— should be banned for it. and i really feel that— should be banned for it. and i really feel that challenging opinion— really feel that challenging opinion in— really feel that challenging opinion is important. debate is tnnanann— opinion is important. debate is tnpanann van— opinion is important. debate is important. you can debate a enet-eet— important. you can debate a enet-eet tnat— important. you can debate a subject that a— important. you can debate a subject that a comedian has raised— subject that a comedian has raised ,— subject that a comedian has raised , ana— subject that a comedian has raised , and we've seen it all raised, and we've seen it all tnnanen— raised, and we've seen it all tnnanen tne— raised, and we've seen it all through the past. ricky gervais has through the past. ricky gervais nae cane— through the past. ricky gervais has come under— through the past. ricky gervais has come under fire, but then nae— has come under fire, but then nae panacea— has come under fire, but then has produced some incredibly moving— has produced some incredibly moving nteeee— has produced some incredibly moving pieces of— has produced some incredibly moving pieces of script that has gone— moving pieces of script that has gone an— moving pieces of script that has gone en te— moving pieces of script that has gene an to te— moving pieces of script that has gene an to be a— moving pieces of script that has gone on to be a sort of national treasure ant— gone on to be a sort of national treasure. and it's— gone on to be a sort of national treasure. and it's the same with jim navttsan— treasure. and it's the same with jim davidson of— treasure. and it's the same with jim davidson of this channel. he atten— jim davidson of this channel. he atten wttt— jim davidson of this channel. he atten wttt te— jim davidson of this channel. he often will be referred to as ant—wate— often will be referred to as anti—woke and _ often will be referred to as anti—woke and rude and abusive . anti—woke and rude and abusive. but anti—woke and rude and abusive. nut .— anti—woke and rude and abusive. nut . tntnt— anti—woke and rude and abusive. but i think there's— anti—woke and rude and abusive. but i think there's an important you an— but i think there's an important you can understand that you have a conversation.— you can understand that you have a conversation. _ you can understand that you have a conversation. even— you can understand that you have a conversation. cl" you can understand that you have a conversation. 'ti“ i ,, a conversation. even the luvvies are getting annoyed at this, aren't they? steve you need to have that conversation. joe brandt she hit out- have that conversation. joe brandt she hit out at- “ joe brandt she hit out at censoring eanety. — brandt she hit out at censoring eanety. sne— brandt she hit out at censoring comedy. she said— brandt she hit out at censoring comedy. t: “gti comedy. she said lots of things upset people. nothing's illegal.

she hit out at comedians having to censor their jokes and acts to censor theirjokes and acts to censor theirjokes and acts to avoid upsetting people. it's just too much, isn't it? i think it's interesting— just too much, isn't it? i think it's interesting that— ti“ c 7 ithink it's interesting that people tte— it's interesting that people ttte tee— it's interesting that people like joe brownite. i mean, joe nnants— like joe brownite. i mean, joe nnants ae— like joe brownite. i mean, joe brands are extremely interesting. - brands are extremely interesting. you know, she was a nentat— interesting. you know, she was a mental health— interesting. you know, she was a mental health nurse for a long the — mental health nurse for a long the sne— mental health nurse for a long time. she speaks— mental health nurse for a long time. she speaks from a position of time. she speaks from a position at same— time. she speaks from a position of some-as well- time. she speaks from a position of some-as well as- time. she speaks from a position of some as well as a of some authority as well as a sea-netn— of some authority as well as a sea-nettn t— of some authority as well as a comedian. i think— of some authority as well as a comedian. i think she realises tnat— comedian. i think she realises ttat—a- comedian. i think she realises tnat—a entl comedian. i think she realises. tnat—a ent te that we're backing into a cul de sac that we're backing into a cul de sat-ant— that we're backing into a cul de sac-and that's— that we're backing into a cul de sac-and that's-real. sac here, and that's the real nntten. — sac here, and that's the real problem. this— sac here, and that's the real problem. this way- sac here, and that's the real problem. ’“ git “g problem. this way i'm going to have to stop you in your cul de sac there. you've done. we have some more breaking— tinitti “tiiti you've done. we have some more breaking news. we have sane-tneattng— some more breaking news. we have some-breaking news.- some more breaking news. we have some breaking news. so some more breaking news. so tet-s— some more breaking news. so tet-s-yan— some more breaking news. so tet-s-yan tnat- some more breaking news. so let's-you that and- some more breaking news. so let's you that and this let's bring you that and this tne.— time, it's regarding nicola sturgeon— time, it's regarding nicola sturgeon ongoing sturgeon and the ongoing investigation— investigation into the snp's party— investigation into the snp's pang ttnanes— investigation into the snp's party finances. as former party finances. as the former ttnt— party finances. as the former first—certain,- party finances. as the former first—certain, shei first minister is certain, she nas— first minister is certain, she nas-natntng- first minister is certain, she has nothing wrong. that's has done nothing wrong. that's nnat— has done nothing wrong. that's nnat sne— has done nothing wrong. that's nnat sne says. — has done nothing wrong. that's what she says. she also told reporters— what she says. she also told reporters-accepts. what she says. she also told reporters accepts she reporters that she accepts she is reporters that she accepts she ts-ttgnne.— reporters that she accepts she ts-ttgnne. tnt- reporters that she accepts she is-figure, but she- reporters that she accepts she is figure, but she is is a public figure, but she is atso— is a public figure, but she is atsa a— is a public figure, but she is also a human— is a public figure, but she is also a human being that is enttttet— also a human being that is enttttetla— also a human being that is entitled-a bit- also a human being that is entitled-a bit of- also a human being that is entitled a bit of privacy as entitled to a bit of privacy as ant-net— entitled to a bit of privacy as our her neighbours. i would our or her neighbours. i would to our or her neighbours. i would ta—vtens- our or her neighbours. i would ta—vtens at- our or her neighbours. i would ta—vtens at my! to love get the views of my nanet— to love get the views of my pane-ttat.— to love get the views of my panel-that, but- to love get the views of my panel that, but must go panel on that, but we must go to. panel on that, but we must go ta. van— panel on that, but we must go ta. van ae— panel on that, but we must go to. you are watching and ttstentng— to. you are watching and listening to— to. you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. listening to gb news sunday with tntty— listening to gb news sunday with tntty cane— listening to gb news sunday with me. emily carver coming up in the me. emily carver coming up in tne-nann— me. emily carver coming up in tne-neat. tne— me. emily carver coming up in the hour, the government's the next hour, the government's ntgnant— the next hour, the government's.

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hello and welcome wag.— hello and welcome to nag.— hello and welcome to gb news sundav-_ hello and welcome to gb news sundav- tn— hello and welcome to gb news sunday. i'm emily— hello and welcome to gb news sunday. i'm emily carver for the next— sunday. i'm emily carver for the next neat— sunday. i'm emily carver for the next ten t— sunday. i'm emily carver for the next hour i will— sunday. i'm emily carver for the next hour i will be— sunday. i'm emily carver for the next hour i will be keeping you company— next hour i will be keeping you company en— next hour i will be keeping you company en w.— next hour i will be keeping you company on tv, online and ttgttat— company on tv, online and digital radio. _ company on tv, online and digital radio. so— company on tv, online and digital radio. so coming up, sue stay— digital radio. so coming up, sue stay nas— digital radio. so coming up, sue gray has broken— digital radio. so coming up, sue gray has broken impartiality nntes— gray has broken impartiality rules over her— gray has broken impartiality rules over her advisory to rules over her advisory job to teta— rules over her advisory job to ten-a— rules over her advisory job to ten-a tngntn- rules over her advisory job to keir-a inquiry has. keir starmer, a inquiry has teena— keir starmer, a inquiry has foundlsenior_ keir starmer, a inquiry has found senior civil servant found a senior civil servant tteaenet— found a senior civil servant breached regulations and could nave— breached regulations and could nave teen— breached regulations and could have been sacked— breached regulations and could have been sacked if she had not atteaty— have been sacked if she had not ataeaty gutt— have been sacked if she had not already quit. then— have been sacked if she had not already quit. then the diy giant wix already quit. then the diy giant tits ts— already quit. then the diy giant tits ts taetng— already quit. then the diy giant tits ts taetng a— already quit. then the diy giant wix is facing a boycott of its stees— wix is facing a boycott of its stees ant— wix is facing a boycott of its stees ant a— wix is facing a boycott of its stores and a falling share price atten— stores and a falling share price attenlentet— stores and a falling share price after chief operating after its chief operating ettteen— after its chief operating officer said— after its chief operating officer said shoppers with trans anteat— officer said shoppers with trans critical views— officer said shoppers with trans critical views are _ officer said shoppers with trans critical views are bigots and net— critical views are bigots and are not welcome— critical views are bigots and are not welcome in their stores. go are not welcome in their stores. ee ttgnne— are not welcome in their stores. se ttgnne ant— are not welcome in their stores. se ttgnne ant a— are not welcome in their stores. go figure and a major report says— go figure and a major report says government efforts to clear the says government efforts to clear tne asytnn — says government efforts to clear the asylum backlog aren't netttng— the asylum backlog aren't neattng ant— the asylum backlog aren't working and their attempts have actuate— working and their attempts have aetnatty mate— working and their attempts have actually made the— working and their attempts have actually made the situation worse. believe _ actually made the situation worse. believe it or not, that teats— worse. believe it or not, that teats a— worse. believe it or not, that teats a mate— worse. believe it or not, that deals a major blow to prime tttntsten— deals a major blow to prime minister rishi _ deals a major blow to prime minister rishi sunak's key etetge— minister rishi sunak's key pledge te— minister rishi sunak's key pledge te ent— minister rishi sunak's key pledge to end the crossings . minister rishi sunak's key pledge to end the crossings. but nest.— pledge to end the crossings. but first tetene— pledge to end the crossings. but first, before all— pledge to end the crossings. but first, before all of— pledge to end the crossings. but first, before all of that, let's get— first, before all of that, let's get tne— first, before all of that, let's get tne news— first, before all of that, let's get the news headlines with aaren — get the news headlines with aaron armstrong . a: ’“ aaron armstrong. good afternoon to you. it's 2:00 aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. the met police says

it's aware of and is considering a newly emerged video showing conservative staff dancing and joking about covid restrictions dunng joking about covid restrictions during the height of the pandemic. the levelling up secretary has apologised for what he's described as unacceptable behaviour in december 2020, when indoor socialising was banned. michael gove says he's personally sorry but the liberal democrats say his apology is too little too late . with two of the 24 people late. with two of the 24 people at the christmas party were named in boris johnson's resignation honours list, mr gove told us disciplinary action has already been taken. the reason why those steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the disease in order to make sure that the pressures on the nhs were manageable in order to make sure that we could treat people who were very ill. so again, the actions here- ttti”t:i tilt .. so again, the actions here are teeetw— again, the actions here are deeply distressing and i can entw— deeply distressing and i can only aeetegtse— deeply distressing and i can only apologise to people that individuals— only apologise to people that individuals behaved in this way. my individuals behaved in this way. my understanding is that there was an investigation into the

party— was an investigation into the gate wnen— was an investigation into the gate wnen tne— was an investigation into the party when the photograph energet— party when the photograph emerged and— party when the photograph emerged and people were disciplined— emerged and people were disciplined . _ emerged and people were disciplined . i~it:i.it“ti“ emerged and people were disciplined. emerged and people were- disciplined . meanwhile, mps will disciplined. meanwhile, mps will tomorrow debate any possible punishment for boris johnson after he was found to have misled parliament over partygate . the privileges committee recommended the former prime minister should face a 90 day suspension on had he not already resigned in advance of the report. it's understood that his supporters are being encouraged to abstain . but former brexit to abstain. but former brexit secretary david davis told camilla tominey he will support the committee, saying its findings are clear. one of the things findings are clear. one of the tntngs attent— �*" “t: “gti it”t:i i one of the things about parliament is it's the things about parliament is it's tne ntgnest— things about parliament is it's the highest court— things about parliament is it's the highest court in the land tnat— the highest court in the land that creates— the highest court in the land that creates a— the highest court in the land that creates a problem when weane— that creates a problem when youre eentng— that creates a problem when you're coming to— that creates a problem when you're coming to privileges. wnat-s— you're coming to privileges. wnat-s tnat— you're coming to privileges. what's that problem? it's like nawng— what's that problem? it's like nawng a— what's that problem? it's like having a trial— what's that problem? it's like having a trial-a— what's that problem? it's like having a trial a village. having a trial in a village. twewtetw— having a trial in a village. everybody knows everybody. yeah, netetw— everybody knows everybody. yeah, netetw ts— everybody knows everybody. yeah, nobody is entirely— everybody knows everybody. yeah, nobody is entirely unbiased . nobody is entirely unbiased. new— nobody is entirely unbiased. new te— nobody is entirely unbiased. new tte ttew— nobody is entirely unbiased. how do they know— nobody is entirely unbiased. how do they know his- nobody is entirely unbiased. how do they know his own mind at the time? they don't have to. they— the time? they don't have to. tnew knew— the time? they don't have to. they know what— the time? they don't have to. they know what they- c i“t:i;7 they don't have to. they know what they know is what he they know what they know is what ne tnews — they know what they know is what ne tnews tt— they know what they know is what ne tnews tt wew— they know what they know is what he knows. if you if— they know what they know is what he knows. if you if you go to a party,— he knows. if you if you go to a party, you— he knows. if you if you go to a eanw. you knew— he knows. if you if you go to a eanw. you knew tt— he knows. if you if you go to a party, you know it was a party you— party, you know it was a party wew ten-t— party, you know it was a party you don't need— party, you know it was a party you don't need an— party, you know it was a party you don't need an advisor to ten— you don't need an advisor to tett wew— you don't need an advisor to tett wew . — you don't need an advisor to tell you . well,— you don't need an advisor to tell you. �*tfttticc \. i you don't need an advisor to

tell you . �*tfttticc \. i cd" tell you. well, nicola sturgeon says she's done nothing wrong in relation to her arrest over snp finances . the former first finances. the former first minister spoke as she returned home for the first time since being arrested and released without charge last sunday. ms sturgeon refused to answer any questions, but says she will when she returns to holyrood early next week . rishi sunak is early next week. rishi sunak is facing a fourth by—election following the resignation of a former conservative mp , david former conservative mp, david warburton, who had the tory whip suspended last april , has suspended last april, has stepped down from his somerton and frome seat following accusations of sexual misconduct and cocaine use. he's the fourth conservative mp in eight days to resign following announcements by boris johnson , nigel adams by boris johnson, nigel adams and nadine dorries . the number and nadine dorries. the number of migrants entering the uk via the english channel in small boats this year has surpassed 10,000, according to the home office figures at 374 people were detected, making the journey yesterday alone while

crossings have increased recently as the weather has improved. but the number this yearis improved. but the number this year is still below the equivalent at this point. last yean equivalent at this point. last year, almost 46,000 migrants crossed the channel in 2022, the uk has pledged an extra £16 million to boost ukraine's cyber defences . that's in addition to defences. that's in addition to 6.35 million promised last year. the government says it will better help ukraine defend its critical infrastructure from russian attacks . the prime russian attacks. the prime minister will use a summit this week to call on investors and businesses to step up their support for ukraine's economic recovery . it comes as the recovery. it comes as the counter offensive against russian forces continues in the south and the east of the country. thunder lightning and heavy rain are moving across the uk. it's leading to concerns of flash flooding. the met office is predicting wind and hail with yellow warnings for thunderstorms forms across the majority of england, wales and

northern ireland. the warnings will remain in place until midnight. it could lead to a month's worth of rain falling in a few hours. and that is as a result of the recent warm weather which is set to continue today. regardless with temperatures in the mid to high 20s . and prince william's vowed 20s. and prince william's vowed to tackle homelessness by building social housing on some of his own land . the prince of of his own land. the prince of wales told the times , ending the wales told the times, ending the plight of hidden homelessness in the uk has been a lifelong ambition , one he has expressed ambition, one he has expressed frustration in at government councils and charities who he says are managing homelessness rather than preventing it. many of the details of the five year plan will be announced next month and this is gb news more as it happens throughout the afternoon. but now it is back to gb news .

gb news. sunday yes. so gb news. sunday yes . so the saga of gb news. sunday— yes . so the saga of partygate at news. sunday— yes . so the saga of partygate is yes. so the saga of partygate is not yes. so the saga of partygate is net getng— yes. so the saga of partygate is net getng away— yes. so the saga of partygate is net getng away at— ytiti so the saga of partygate is not going away at all. is it? a wtee. — not going away at all. is it? a wtee. wett— not going away at all. is it? a video. well, the— not going away at all. is it? a video. well, the sunday mirror eatts— video. well, the sunday mirror eatts tt— video. well, the sunday mirror eatts tt a— video. well, the sunday mirror calls it a bombshell . video has calls it a bombshell. video has energet— calls it a bombshell. video has emerged et— calls it a bombshell. video has emerged of conservative party statt— emerged of conservative party statt tanetng— emerged of conservative party staff dancing, drinking, joking attent— staff dancing, drinking, joking about breaking— staff dancing, drinking, joking about breaking the rules. back in about breaking the rules. back tn 2020.— about breaking the rules. back tn zozo. tnat— about breaking the rules. back in 2020. that was— about breaking the rules. back in 2020. that was when the covid nestnettens— in 2020. that was when the covid restrictions were— in 2020. that was when the covid restrictions were in— in 2020. that was when the covid restrictions were in place. tet-s— restrictions were in place. tet-s tate— restrictions were in place. tet-s take a— restrictions were in place. let's take a quick look . let's take a quick look. party ends— let's take a quick look. party ends up— let's take a quick look. party ends up as— let's take a quick look. party ends up as instagram live as long as we don't . well, i'm long as we don't. well, i'm pretty sure . impressive. globsec pretty sure. impressive. globsec . tanta— pretty sure. impressive. globsec . laura, what do you think of this? laura there you go. having a ttttte— this? laura there you go. having a ttttte ttt— this? laura there you go. having a little bit too— this? laura there you go. having a little bit too much— i7 there you go. having a little bit too much time. fun wnte— a little bit too much time. fun wntte tne— a little bit too much time. fun while the rest— a little bit too much time. fun while the rest of— a little bit too much time. fun while the rest of us were being , while the rest of us were being . wett— while the rest of us were being . wett tested— while the rest of us were being , well locked down in our homes , well locked down in our homes . tne— , well locked down in our homes , the metropolitan— , well locked down in our homes , the metropolitan police said a sten— , the metropolitan police said a snen tne— , the metropolitan police said a snen ttne age— , the metropolitan police said a short time ago this is breaking tnat— short time ago this is breaking news that they— short time ago this is breaking news that they are aware of the we — news that they are aware of the we wnten — news that they are aware of the video which appears to show a ten— video which appears to show a ten teettewn— video which appears to show a tory lockdown party. meanwhile sir tory lockdown party. meanwhile ste—nas—

tory lockdown party. meanwhile sir—has woken- tory lockdown party. meanwhile sir—has woken up. tory lockdown party. meanwhilei sir—has woken up to sir keir starmer has woken up to tat— sir keir starmer has woken up to tat news— sir keir starmer has woken up to some bad news as— sir keir starmer has woken up to some bad news as an official tngwtw— some bad news as an official tngwtw nas— some bad news as an official inquiry has found— some bad news as an official inquiry has found the civil inquiry has found that the civil servant— inquiry has found that the civil servant-poached- inquiry has found that the civil servant poached after servant that he poached after the servant that he poached after tne—swe- servant that he poached after. tne—swe-ttt the party inquiry, sue gray, did in the party inquiry, sue gray, did tn tast— the party inquiry, sue gray, did in fact breach— the party inquiry, sue gray, did in fact breach whitehall tnnantatttw— in fact breach whitehall impartiality rules by taking up the impartiality rules by taking up tne tet— impartiality rules by taking up tne tet as— impartiality rules by taking up the job as chief— impartiality rules by taking up the job as chief of staff in stannen-s— the job as chief of staff in starmer's office. i thought it at tne— starmer's office. i thought it at tne tne— starmer's office. i thought it at tne ttne .— starmer's office. i thought it at the time . it's— starmer's office. i thought it at the time . it's nice to see at the time. it's nice to see tnat— at the time. it's nice to see tnat we— at the time. it's nice to see that we have— at the time. it's nice to see that we have that now in the papers— that we have that now in the papers tetaw. — that we have that now in the papers today. now the findings are papers today. now the findings tttetw— papers today. now the findings tttetw te— papers today. now the findings are likely to be— papers today. now the findings are likely to be highly embarrassing for the labour teaten— embarrassing for the labour. leader. _ repeatedly leader. he's railed repeatedly agatnst— leader. he's railed repeatedly agatnst ten— leader. he's railed repeatedly against tory misconduct, hasn't nee— against tory misconduct, hasn't nee se— against tory misconduct, hasn't nee se joining— against tory misconduct, hasn't he? so joining me— against tory misconduct, hasn't he? so joining me to bring us tne— he? so joining me to bring us tne wew— he? so joining me to bring us the very latest— he? so joining me to bring us the very latest on— he? so joining me to bring us the very latest on all of this eetttteat— the very latest on all of this political news— the very latest on all of this political news is— the very latest on all of this political news is senior eetttteat— political news is senior political commentator nigel wetsen.— political commentator nigel nelson. nigel,— political commentator nigel nelson. nigel, thank you very nwen. — nelson. nigel, thank you very much. bombshell video. the nettee— much. bombshell video. the gettee ae— much. bombshell video. the police are now— much. bombshell video. the police are now considering it . police are now considering it. yes.— police are now considering it. yes, considering. _ police are now considering it. yes, considering. : yes, considering. i wonder i wonder what that word considering means. it sort of sounds of sounds like a sigh of frustration , an like sort of do frustration, an like sort of do we really have to look at this one again? but i'm sure the police will do their duty and they will look at it again. i mean, the question really comes to down this. this party happenedin to down this. this party happened in december 2020. they investigated at the time and it was based on a picture of a of

the group of people who were there. yes, it was a group shot, wasnt— there. yes, it was a group shot, wasnt tt— there. yes, it was a group shot, wasnt t. at— there. yes, it was a group shot, wasn't it, at the— there. yes, it was a group shot, wasn't it, at the time- c“t:i”t:i yes, it was a group shot, wasn't it, at the time of all of tnen — wasn't it, at the time of all of them smiling?— wasn't it, at the time of all of them smiling? that's right. ttat-s— them smiling? that's right. than ttgtt— them smiling? that's right. that's right. and— them smiling? that's right. that's right. and in- them smiling? that's right. that's right. and in that- that's right. and in that particular one that the london mayoral candidate, shaun bailey was the picture. he isn't in was in the picture. he isn't in this video that he left the party before that video was taken . but, yes, i'm sure they taken. but, yes, i'm sure they will look at it again. and the question is, does it provide more evidence that they didn't see first time round? and secondly , is it in the public secondly, is it in the public interest to have a long and expensive investigation all over again ? well, you're no fan of again? well, you're no fan of the conservatives. are you? i think the conservatives. are you? i tntnt tts— the conservatives. are you? i think it's fair— the conservatives. are you? i think it's fair to _ the conservatives. are you? i think it's fair to say.- are you? i think it's fair to say. nigel, do think it's fair to say. nigel, te wew— think it's fair to say. nigel, te you tntnt— think it's fair to say. nigel, do you think an- think it's fair to say. nigel, do you think an investigation is in do you think an investigation is tn tne— do you think an investigation is tn tne nutte— do you think an investigation is in the public interest? do you think an investigation is in the public interest ? ytiti in the public interest? yes, i tte.— in the public interest? yes, i an tt— in the public interest? yes, i an tt ttew— in the public interest? yes, i do. if they can— in the public interest? yes, i do. if they can actually establish an offence, was committed, they couldn't find first time round. i think they probably have to do it because i think it's absolutely ridiculous . but the question really is what evidence, whether they what the evidence, whether they consider hugely consider that evidence hugely different from what they saw first time round. so it's not in the public interest in the sense

that to actually come to the same conclusion again and spend a lot of money on it, if they see actually, well, hang on a sec. there are two, three, 4 or 5 people there who we ought to have fined and we didn't. 5 people there who we ought to have fined and we didn't . that's have fined and we didn't. that's a matter people a different matter now. people seem be divided about this at seem to be divided about this at home because on the one hand, people are writing to me saying this is clear. the double standards— this is clear. the double standards ,_ this is clear. the double standards , but- i the double standards , but also that it standards, but also that it pees— standards, but also that it pewes tne— standards, but also that it proves the government didn't tettewe— proves the government didn't tettewe tn— proves the government didn't believe in the— proves the government didn't believe in the in— proves the government didn't believe in the in their own nntes— believe in the in their own nntes en— believe in the in their own nntes en at— believe in the in their own rules or at least- believe in the in their own rules or at least these people newetttng— rules or at least these people newetttng tn— rules or at least these people revelling in having this christmas— revelling in having this christmas bash clearly didn't tettewe— christmas bash clearly didn't believe that— christmas bash clearly didn't believe that this— christmas bash clearly didn't believe that this virus was going— believe that this virus was getng te— believe that this virus was getng te tit— believe that this virus was going to kill them, make them trep— going to kill them, make them tnep teat.— going to kill them, make them tnep teat. we— going to kill them, make them drop dead. no i— going to kill them, make them drop dead. no i think that that is drop dead. no i think that that ts stanttng.— drop dead. no i think that that is startling, though. ytiti is startling, though. yes. but tnat— is startling, though. yes. but ttat tn— is startling, though. yes. but ttat tn a— is startling, though. yes. but that in a sense is a separate debate, isn't it, that whether or not the rules should have been been enforced and these particular ones at the time, you could you could meet other people outdoors. you couldn't meet them indoors , as which was meet them indoors, as which was the alleged offence they committed at the time. so i think that that matter really now is genuinely for the covid inquiry to decide whether those

rules were necessary at the time. well, thank you very much, wtget.— time. well, thank you very much, wtget. tets— time. well, thank you very much, wtget. tets et— time. well, thank you very much, nigel. lots of you— c well, thank you very much, nigel. lots of you have been getttng— nigel. lots of you have been getttng tn— nigel. lots of you have been getting in touch— nigel. lots of you have been getting in touch on this very tepte. — getting in touch on this very tepte. swan— getting in touch on this very topic. stuart has— getting in touch on this very topic. stuart has to say they snewtt— topic. stuart has to say they snewtt att— topic. stuart has to say they should all be— topic. stuart has to say they should all be sacked immediately and should all be sacked immediately ant ewstet— should all be sacked immediately and ousted from _ should all be sacked immediately and ousted from our government. wnat— and ousted from our government. wnat a— and ousted from our government. wnat a ttst— and ousted from our government. what a kick-teeth- and ousted from our government. what a kick teeth by our what a kick in the teeth by our teatens. — what a kick in the teeth by our teatens. ne— what a kick in the teeth by our leaders. do as— what a kick in the teeth by our leaders. do as we— what a kick in the teeth by our leaders. do as we say, not as we do leaders. do as we say, not as we te tewtte— leaders. do as we say, not as we do double standards to the ntgnest— highest degree. there you go. streng— highest degree. there you go. streng-tawa— highest degree. there you go. strong laura says. strong stuff, laura says. twewene— strong stuff, laura says. everyone stepped mark everyone stepped over the mark at see— everyone stepped over the mark at pent.— everyone stepped over the mark at some point. where is the ewtnage— at some point. where is the ewtaage even— at some point. where is the outrage over starmer's breaches at some point. where is the outhee over starmer's breaches at some point. where is the outhe e oveihe armer's breaches at some point. where is the outhee oveihe himselfbreaches of the rules he himself swppenete— of the rules he himself supported? also supported? claire pearsall also nenttenet— supported? claire pearsall also mentioned-earlier- supported? claire pearsall also mentioned earlier and mentioned that earlier and twenty— mentioned that earlier and luckily enough, she is here back wttn— luckily enough, she is here back wttt-tn— luckily enough, she is here back wttn-tn tne— luckily enough, she is here back with-in the studio- luckily enough, she is here back with in the studio and so is with me in the studio and so is stepnen—wew- with me in the studio and so isi stepnen—wew wew stephen pound. thank you very nnan— stephen pound. thank you very nwenlstawtng— stephen pound. thank you very much staying around this much for staying around this new— much for staying around this new .— much for staying around this new . se— much for staying around this new . se we— much for staying around this hour. so we do— much for staying around this hour. so we do have a division in hour. so we do have a division tn tne— hour. so we do have a division tn tne tnnes— hour. so we do have a division in the inbox on— hour. so we do have a division in the inbox on this. some peepte— in the inbox on this. some peepte tntnt.— in the inbox on this. some people think, oh, for goodness sate— people think, oh, for goodness sate .— people think, oh, for goodness sate . panwgate— people think, oh, for goodness sake , partygate over and done sake, partygate over and done wttt.— sake, partygate over and done wttn. ne— sake, partygate over and done wttn. me we— sake, partygate over and done with. do we need— sake, partygate over and done with. do we need to be spending pettee— with. do we need to be spending police resources— with. do we need to be spending police resources on— with. do we need to be spending police resources on looking into tnese— police resources on looking into tnese tntngs— police resources on looking into these things again— police resources on looking into these things again from now ? these things again from now? teats— these things again from now? teats age.— these things again from now? years ago, actually, claire but tnen— years ago, actually, claire but tnen etnens— years ago, actually, claire but then others are— years ago, actually, claire but then others are sick of what tnew— then others are sick of what tnew see— then others are sick of what tnew as— then others are sick of what they see as double standards . they see as double standards. wett— they see as double standards. wett. t— they see as double standards. wett. t tttnt— they see as double standards. well, i think it's— they see as double standards. well, i think it's quite- well, i think it's quite interesting that we don't know what the word considered means. so the police are aware of it.

then they're considering it. is that the same as me, considering going to the gym tomorrow, knowing it isn't going knowing full well it isn't going to just wonder to happen? i just. i just wonder if the police are now in such a really tough position that they have to put out some kind of statement which really says nothing appease people . i nothing to appease people. i think now need to not think that we now need to not continue to down this route. i do think it is an enormous waste of resources . those people, some of resources. those people, some of resources. those people, some of whom were already fined, i believe there were up to three people were already fined for their part in that party. i'm not sure what else we will get out from it by investigating . out from it by investigating. and what are we going to do to these people? i just don't understand what there is now that we can gain from this. i mean, these young people who ptetwet— mean, these young people who were pictured in— mean, these young people who were pictured in this footage, nepnen—nwst- were pictured in this footage, depher_must be. depher well, they must be atsetwtetw— depher well, they must be absolutely distraught this. absolutely distraught that this. i so absolutely distraught that this. t-se . — absolutely distraught that this. t-se . t— absolutely distraught that this. t-se. t - absolutely distraught that this. i-so. i mean, they- absolutely distraught that this. i i-so . i mean, they deserve i hope so. i mean, they deserve to be. they must be. do- i hope so. they must be. do you to be. they must be. do you tntnt— to be. they must be. do you tntnt tnew— to be. they must be. do you think they deserve- they must be. do you think they deserve to be? i tttnt— think they deserve to be? i think absolutely— think they deserve to be? i think absolutely right. they were part of the machine that was the rules that we had was making the rules that we had to by. surely it's the

to abide by. surely it's the leadership that leadership who created that environment allowed environment that allowed these 20 to be doing 20 odd year olds to be doing orders actually a very, orders isn't actually a very, very good here. but very good defence here. but look, when i heard about look, i mean, when i heard about this video, thought this bombshell video, i thought it to be john belushi it was going to be john belushi rides again at animal house or something like that, you know, you of jiving you know, it's a bit of jiving by table. it's by the trestle table. it's a pretty pathetic, you know, by and look, i admire and large. but look, i admire the swedes on sweden have the swedes on this. sweden have just entire just completed their entire covid whole thing covid inquiry, the whole thing on budget. and they've on time, on budget. and they've actually that's we've actually said, that's it, we've done we've invested done it now, we've invested everything. no more discussion. let's move forward into the next century. let's actually build the far as i'm the country up as far as i'm concerned, sweden have it concerned, sweden have got it right and we've it wrong. we right and we've got it wrong. we do on. we do labour over do move on. we do labour over tnese— do move on. we do labour over tnese tntngs.— do move on. we do labour over these things, don't— do move on. we do labour over these things, don't we,- t:tit tit“ we do labour over these things, don't we, claire nnt— these things, don't we, claire nut atse— these things, don't we, claire nut atse new— these things, don't we, claire but also how this damaging? but also how is this damaging? vente— but also how is this damaging? wew-weltewen— but also how is this damaging? you're-touch-the- but also how is this damaging? you're touch the grass you're in touch with the grass nets— you're in touch with the grass roots _conservative - roots of the conservative movement are movement of the party. how are peepte— movement of the party. how are peepte-abett— movement of the party. how are people-about all- movement of the party. how are people about all this? people feeling about all this? because,-taking. because, you know, taking a tneettng— because, you know, taking a tneettng tt— because, you know, taking a knocking it is. _ because, you know, taking a knocking it is. ' “t: because, you know, taking a knocking it is. '“t: knocking it is. and i think people are fed up now. so it comes down to sort of two different factions. there are those who believe boris to be the correct person, to be running the country. and there are those who don't. and he's a

victim are those who don't. and he's a wettn et— are those who don't. and he's a wettn et a— are those who don't. and he's a victim of a stitch— are those who don't. and he's a victim of a stitch up. - are those who don't. and he's a victim of a stitch up. and- ”ti t:tit“ c and he's a victim of a stitch up. ' “t: victim of a stitch up. and so ttat— victim of a stitch up. and so ttat ttwte— victim of a stitch up. and so that divide is so alive and kicking within the grass roots party. but the one thing that connects everybody together is how they feel by the how let down they feel by the party a whole. and when we party as a whole. and when we consider that over a thousand island council has lost their seat in the local elections and nothing has been said to them about it, thank you for your service and we're very sorry. there's an awful lot of bad feeling building up . these are feeling building up. these are the very same people that you are going to rely upon to go out and help in by elections. given that we a number of them that we have a number of them coming at moment and coming up at the moment and again the general election, again in the general election, when that comes. and if they aren't willing to do so, think aren't willing to do so, i think the is real trouble. the party is in real trouble. yes i the party is in real trouble. yesi do the party is in real trouble. yes i do think so. and i think it's yes i do think so. and i think is teen— yes i do think so. and i think it's been extremely- ytiti t:tit and i think it's been extremely difficult for it's been extremely difficult ten peepte— it's been extremely difficult ten peepte en— it's been extremely difficult for people on the grass roots to be for people on the grass roots to tte-te— for people on the grass roots to te-te tetent— for people on the grass roots to be-to defend ed,- for people on the grass roots to be to defend ed, the be able to defend ed, the gewennnent— be able to defend ed, the government for many different reasons,-because- government for many different reasons, because of reasons, not least because of all reasons, not least because of at tnts— reasons, not least because of all this cowo— reasons, not least because of all this covid stuff. stephen, tn— all this covid stuff. stephen, tn getng— all this covid stuff. stephen, tn getng te— all this covid stuff. stephen, i'm going to have to ask about wew— i'm going to have to ask about wew-teta— i'm going to have to ask about your- keir starmer- i'm going to have to ask about your keir starmer and his your man, keir starmer and his appetntnent— your man, keir starmer and his appetntnent et— your man, keir starmer and his appointment of sue gray looking wew—

appointment of sue gray looking wew ttsnw— appointment of sue gray looking very fishy, looking _ appointment of sue gray looking very fishy, looking very dodgy. we very fishy, looking very dodgy. we new— very fishy, looking very dodgy. we now see that— very fishy, looking very dodgy. we now see that she broke tnpantatttw— we now see that she broke impartiality rules, whitehall tnpantatttw— impartiality rules, whitehall impartiality rules. that's what seetng— impartiality rules. that's what we're seeing today. do you not tettewe— we're seeing today. do you not tettewe tt? — we're seeing today. do you not believe it? well,— we're seeing today. do you not believe it? well, no.- we're seeing today. do you not believe it? �*tfttticc 3”th tit“ believe it? well, no. hang on a second. that's not the case. this is darren tierney. is this is darren tierney. he is the who over from her the chap who took over from her as head of ethics. he's as the head of ethics. he's actually made an opinion, which is he's passed on simon case and which the isn't the which is a isn't the isn't the partygate opinion partygate inquiry opinion well, no, sec. this is no, hang on a sec. this is a confidential internal document. there's conclusion. there's there's no conclusion. there's not been investigation. not been any investigation. there's actual there's not been any actual decision taken. sue gray was an extraordinary borisjohnson extraordinary as boris johnson himself said, she was absolutely, remarkably skilful and civil servant. and professional civil servant. but look, she you remember she took time off to go and run a pub in dundalk and, you know, she's married to a great country and western singer in ireland. she's not a conventional person. but moment, idea that but at the moment, the idea that there's of interest there's a conflict of interest because was thinking because somebody was thinking about to for somebody about going to work for somebody else working for else while she was working for the state compared with what we've seen, i am sorry she we've just seen, i am sorry she was charge of the report into was in charge of the report into bofis was in charge of the report into boris was she not? boris johnson, was she not? this endorsed boris this endorsed by boris johnson? i this endorsed by boris johnson? t tttnt— this endorsed by boris johnson? t tttnt tnn— this endorsed by boris johnson? ttttnt m net—

this endorsed by boris johnson? i think i'm not going— this endorsed by boris johnson? i think i'm not going-call- i think i'm not going to call this corruption, do not this corruption, but i do not understand people look at understand how people look at this think, well, whitehall this and think, well, whitehall is supposed be impartial. is supposed to be impartial. marshall sue gray, who was marshall and sue gray, who was top marshall and sue gray, who was tep ttantantn— marshall and sue gray, who was top mandarin, leading this repent— top mandarin, leading this nepen tnte— top mandarin, leading this report into boris johnson that eentntwtet— report into boris johnson that contributed-his— report into boris johnson that contributed his downfall contributed to his downfall as nine— contributed to his downfall as prime minister— contributed to his downfall as prime minister. _ contributed to his downfall as prime minister. �*tfttticc contributed to his downfall as prime minister . �*tfttticc c prime minister. well, is it ttgtt— prime minister. well, is it right, you know about the widdecombe in civil widdecombe rules in civil service obviously nobody expects the servants all to be the civil servants all to be eunuchs. everybody knows that they're have political they're going to have political views. to views. what you cannot do is to impose political views on impose your political views on the you're doing. and the work you're doing. and nobody for nobody has suggested for a second that sue gray has done that. son labour that. her son is a labour activist. appears to be activist. she appears to be sympathetic labour party, sympathetic to the labour party, but widdecombe but under the widdecombe rules she have expressed she could not have expressed that a well, this that while she was a well, this official cabinet office inquiry has concluded that ms grey fell short the requirements of short of the requirements of both code and both the civil service code and her employment contract when she quietly talks about quietly took part in talks about joining labour as sir keir's chief of claire. this is chief of staff claire. this is damaging chief of staff claire. this is tanagtng ten— i“ this is damaging for starmer. chief of staff claire. this is. damaging for-starmer. it damaging for keir starmer. it atsetwtetw— damaging for keir starmer. it absolutely is. _ damaging for keir starmer. it absolutely is. i— damaging for keir starmer. it absolutely is. i think- damaging for keir starmer. it absolutely is. i think it- damaging for keir starmer. it absolutely is. i think it brings into question his judgement. if you were keir starmer looking at a senior civil servant, which would be a very , very good

would be a very, very good appointment and sue gray is exemplary and i'm quite scared of to be perfectly brutal. of her to be perfectly brutal. she charge my career she was in charge of my career for time , but it brings for some time, but it brings into question your judgement, wouldn't you say to that person , to speak to you , i'm not going to speak to you until the civil until you have left the civil service. you have put a period of time between the inquiry and an appointment. i don't think as an appointment. i don't think as a potential leader of the country, as keir starmer wishes to be, that you can not look at the details surrounding this and given his background in the legal profession, why would he have not been all over the detail of that to say this is going to look bad for me, me and my party, so i'm not going to do it? but he didn't. and i find that quite worrying. but on the one hand, that quite worrying. but on the nant. wew— that quite worrying. but on the one hand, you _talk- that quite worrying. but on the one hand, you _talk to- one hand, you can't talk to someone-say,- one hand, you can't talk to someone say, i'm not going someone and say, i'm not going to someone and say, i'm not going te tatt— someone and say, i'm not going te tatt te— someone and say, i'm not going te tatt te wew.— someone and say, i'm not going to talk to you. you— someone and say, i'm not going to talk to you. you can't talk to talk to you. you can't talk to someone and— to talk to you. you can't talk to someone and simply say, look, you to someone and simply say, look, wew-we-te-getng- you know, we're not going to ttsewss— you know, we're not going to. discuss _without discuss it here and now without aetwattw— discuss it here and now without aetwattw nawng— discuss it here and now without actually having some form of communication.— actually having some form of communication. as far i'm communication. and as far as i'm aware—ne- aware, that's exactly what he sat. — aware, that's exactly what he sat. lsatt.— aware, that's exactly what he said. .said, look, - aware, that's exactly what he said. said, look, we'll talk said. he said, look, we'll talk attent— said. he said, look, we'll talk atewt-tne— said. he said, look, we'll talk about-the future,- said. he said, look, we'll talk about the future, but we

about this in the future, but we annet— about this in the future, but we annet tatt— about this in the future, but we cannot talk about— about this in the future, but we cannot talk about it now. you annet— cannot talk about it now. you annet tatt— cannot talk about it now. you cannot talk about— cannot talk about it now. you cannot talk about joining me now because—swi- because you are a senior civil servant— because you are a senior civil sewant—aeeepti because you are a senior civil. sewant—aeeept te servant now. you can't accept to epess— servant now. you can't accept to epess tnat— servant now. you can't accept to express tnat tw— servant now. you can't accept to express that by osmosis or seret— express that by osmosis or secret letters. _ express that by osmosis or secret letters. you've to secret letters. you've got to actuate— secret letters. you've got to aetwattw—nwtl secret letters. you've got to- actually _ but hang on, actually have some. but hang on, hang hang actually have some. but hang on, hang-hang on. stephen,- hang on, hang on. stephen, i wnterstant— hang on, hang on. stephen, i understand what— hang on, hang on. stephen, i understand what the- “it“t; “it“t; stephen, i understand what the point you're nattng— understand what the point you're nattng. nnt— understand what the point you're nattng. nnt-tet- understand what the point you're making. but let just making. but nigel, let me just tntng— making. but nigel, let me just tnng wew— making. but nigel, let me just tnng you tn— making. but nigel, let me just bring you in for— making. but nigel, let me just bring you in for one last time. pees— bring you in for one last time. pees tnts— bring you in for one last time. does this-call— bring you in for one last time. does this-call into- does this not call into gwesttene— does this not call into question? well, more there are ttgger— question? well, more there are ptgger gwesttens— question? well, more there are bigger questions to be answered attent— about this whole sue gray appetntnent. — appointment. what does this show that appointment. what does this show tnat tne— appointment. what does this show tnat tne ctwt— appointment. what does this show that the civil service can never be tnparttan— that the civil service can never be impartial? really? if sue grav— be impartial? really? if sue tray—nawng- be impartial? really? if suei gray—having these gray was in fact having these ttnt—teateri gray was in fact having these. kind—leader of kind of talks with the leader of the kind of talks with the leader of tne—attent- kind of talks with the leader of tne—atewt a- kind of talks with the leader of the—about a job- kind of talks with the leader of the about a job when the opposition about a job when she the opposition about a job when sne-sappesetw— the opposition about a job when she supposedly supposed she was supposedly supposed to be she was supposedly supposed to teltnpantat— she was supposedly supposed to be impartial mandarin, well, be an impartial mandarin, well, i be an impartial mandarin, well, t—etwt— be an impartial mandarin, well, i_civil servants- be an impartial mandarin, well, i_civil servants can| i mean, even civil servants can go i mean, even civil servants can gelte— i mean, even civil servants can gelte etner— i mean, even civil servants can gelte etner-ant- i mean, even civil servants can go.to other-and i- i mean, even civil servants can go to other and i think go on to otherjobs and i think t-n — go on to otherjobs and i think t-n .stewe— go on to otherjobs and i think i'm .steve pound - go on to otherjobs and i think i'm steve pound on this one i'm with steve pound on this one tnat— i'm with steve pound on this one tnat-get— i'm with steve pound on this one tnat-get te— i'm with steve pound on this one tnat-get te te— i'm with steve pound on this one that got to be having that you've got to be having tnese— that you've got to be having those conversations. c those conversations. the bit ttat— those conversations. the bit ttat ste— those conversations. the bit that she seems to have got wrong , technical, , which is probably technical, is that as a civil servant is that that as a civil servant , she should have informed the her officials that she she was talking to the opposition was thatis talking to the opposition was that is not allowed to be done in secret that seems to be the mistake she's made. she wasn't doing this during the time she

was investigating partygate and she's taken the six months that gardening leave that she's been told to before taking up the appointment. so she has followed all those rules. so we're talking about a bit of a technical breach, but i can't help but think if this was the conservative party, a conservative appointment, that it would be across all the front pages there would be pages and there would be accusations of all sorts of corruption , bad behaviour. it is corruption, bad behaviour. it is on the front page, it's on- on the front page, it's on the tent— on the front page, it's on the trent page— on the front page, it's on the trent page et— on the front page, it's on the front page of the— on the front page, it's on the front page of the sunday tetegrapn.— front page of the sunday tetegrapn. — front page of the sunday telegraph. c front page of the sunday telegraph. c telegraph. it's not anywhere else. and sort of story, else. and this sort of story, people have been sort of i think, gaslighting a bit saying, oh, it's just a damp squib. it's a nonsense story. sue gross miss perfect keir starmer would never do anything dodgy at all. it's just tory. she's just tory sleaze. and i think people are questioning also keir starmer's values, proprieties, morals , values, proprieties, morals, etcetera, etcetera. i think that's fair to say. stephen i don't. well on that bombshell, let's bring you some more on that breaking news regarding nicola sturgeon and the ongoing investigation into the snp

party's finances. the former first minister says she has done nothing wrong . as she told nothing wrong. as she told reporters outside her glasgow home a little earlier. let's have a little listen . oh we are have a little listen. oh we are not going to have a little listen. i'm sorry about that. perhaps we'll have that a little bit later. you are watching and listening gb news sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. we've got lots more today's show. more coming up on today's show. now of wickes, the now a big boss of wickes, the diy store, has shoppers diy store, has said shoppers with trans critical views are bigots, causing some boycott bigots, causing some to boycott the home improvements shop. will wix be the latest brand to go? woke and go broke? but first, let's take a look at the weather with jonathan

welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv onune with me, emily carver on your tv online and digital radio . now online and digital radio. now listen to this. diy giant wix is facing a boycott of its stores

after its chief operating officer said shoppers with trans critical views were bigots and were not welcome in in our stores. the homewares stephen there. the homewares store controversially carried a float at brighton pride last year with the slogan no lgb without the t sparking anger from campaigners and activists. wix share price went down after the comments. is this another example of go woke go broke? it's very clumsy . go broke? it's very clumsy. anyway, joining me now is peter tatchell , lgbtq activist and tatchell, lgbtq activist and director of the peter tatchell foundation. this man, this ceo of this diy store has very much stuck his foot in it. would you agree, peter? well i think you're basing your comments on a misreading of what the boss actually said. he said if people tn tne— actually said. he said if people come in the store— actually said. he said if people come in the store and- i t: he said if people come in the store and behave in atranspnette—

come in the store and behave in a transphobic way— come in the store and behave in a transphobic way towards staff and customers,— a transphobic way towards staff and customers, they were not were— and customers, they were not wete . se— and customers, they were not welcome . so that's very welcome. so that's very tttterent— welcome. so that's very different from - welcome. so that's very different from the way in which it's different from the way in which is teen— different from the way in which it's been reported.— different from the way in which it's been reported. and the way in it's been reported. and the way tn wnen— it's been reported. and the way tn wnten wew— it's been reported. and the way in which you just— it's been reported. and the way in which you just mentioned . i in which you just mentioned. i wnterstant— in which you just mentioned. i understand you— in which you just mentioned. i understand you just you're just tettewtng— understand you just you're just tettewtng tne — understand you just you're just following the report, those following the report, but those repens— following the report, but those reports - inaccurate - following the report, but those reports inaccurate . but i'm reports are inaccurate. but i'm sure-wett— reports are inaccurate. but i'm sure-would not- reports are inaccurate. but i'm sure would not want any sure you would not want any start— sure you would not want any statt tn— sure you would not want any statt tn wtx— sure you would not want any staff in wix or— sure you would not want any staff in wix or any customers in wtx— staff in wix or any customers in wtx wne— staff in wix or any customers in wtx wne wee— staff in wix or any customers in wix who were trans— staff in wix or any customers in wix who were trans to be abused by etner— wix who were trans to be abused by other customers.— wix who were trans to be abused by other customers. it's quite rtgnt. — by other customers. it's quite ngnt. tnts— by other customers. it's quite ngnt. tnts ts— by other customers. it's quite right. this is a— by other customers. it's quite right. this is a customer and start— right. this is a customer and statt satetw— right. this is a customer and staff safety issue— right. this is a customer and staff safety issue and as a responsible _ staff safety issue and as a responsible employer , wix is responsible employer, wix is tetng— responsible employer, wix is tetng tne— responsible employer, wix is doing the right— responsible employer, wix is doing the right thing. you know, if doing the right thing. you know, tt ne— doing the right thing. you know, tt ne nat— doing the right thing. you know, if he had said— doing the right thing. you know, if he had said raise wokeist who tnte— if he had said raise wokeist who tnte tne— if he had said raise wokeist who come into the store and act in a nest— come into the store and act in a raetst way— come into the store and act in a racist way towards— come into the store and act in a racist way towards customers and start.— racist way towards customers and start. tnere — racist way towards customers and staff, there wouldn't be an eaten.— staff, there wouldn't be an outcry. everyone would applaud ntn.— outcry. everyone would applaud ntn. tnew-t— outcry. everyone would applaud ntn. they'd saw— outcry. everyone would applaud him. they'd say it— outcry. everyone would applaud him. they'd say it was the right tntng— him. they'd say it was the right tntng. tnat— him. they'd say it was the right thing, that would— him. they'd say it was the right thing, that would be terrible ant— thing, that would be terrible and shocking— thing, that would be terrible and shocking and unacceptable . and shocking and unacceptable. all and shocking and unacceptable. ttt ter— and shocking and unacceptable. all for customers— and shocking and unacceptable. all for customers to come in and treat— all for customers to come in and treat customers— all for customers to come in and treat customers and— all for customers to come in and treat customers and other staff at wtx— treat customers and other staff at wtx tn— treat customers and other staff at wtx tn a— treat customers and other staff at wix in a racist— treat customers and other staff at wix in a racist way. but teten— at wix in a racist way. but teter. se— at wix in a racist way. but peter, so you're— at wix in a racist way. but peter, so you're saying everything's fine, nothing to see here. he's just reminding people who come through the doors in his shops not to be

bigots and not to be transphobic . but he also said he also said, did he not, that many of his customers will be ignorant or bigots themselves. that's not great business, is it? bigots themselves. that's not great business, is it ? well, bigots themselves. that's not great business, is it? well, i think he was just acknowledging that many people are ill informed about trans issues. partly because of the way in wnen— partly because of the way in which there's— partly because of the way in which there's been a very toxic atnespnere— which there's been a very toxic atmosphere over— which there's been a very toxic atmosphere over the last few wears— atmosphere over the last few years et— atmosphere over the last few years of demonising trans people and years of demonising trans people ant treattng— years of demonising trans people and treating them— years of demonising trans people and treating them as threats and pretaters— and treating them as threats and pretaters as— and treating them as threats and predators as they— and treating them as threats and predators as they are not. but teten— predators as they are not. but teter. teten— predators as they are not. but peter, peter, this— predators as they are not. but peter, peter, this is— predators as they are not. but peter, peter, this is where this is where we disagree. peter i accept your point of view on this, but i'm not sure there has been this massive demonisation of trans people. i think there has been a debate that has emerged because of conflict between women's rights, sex based rights and those of trans people. i don't think it's been about demonising. i think that's what's used to shut down this very important debate. people

say you're transphobic, you're demonising this whole group of people , blah, blah, blah. and people, blah, blah, blah. and that actually makes it more difficult to have a proper conversation and we also find that the extremes of the trans activist movement are constantly trying to shut down women who are worried about losing sex based rights . well, they are not based rights. well, they are not representative _ based rights. well, they are not representative of— based rights. well, they are not representative of most- : ” g“ti well, they are not representative of most trans peepte— representative of most trans peepte .— representative of most trans peepte . t— representative of most trans peepte . t want— representative of most trans people . i want to assure you people. i want to assure you tnat— people. i want to assure you tnat att— people. i want to assure you tnat at my— people. i want to assure you that all my trans— people. i want to assure you that all my trans friends and me as a trans artw— that all my trans friends and me as a trans ally get— that all my trans friends and me as a trans ally get constant teatn— as a trans ally get constant death threats— as a trans ally get constant death threats ,_ as a trans ally get constant death threats , death threats to death threats, death threats to rape— death threats, death threats to rape — death threats, death threats to rape us, castrate— death threats, death threats to rape us, castrate us and kill us tren— rape us, castrate us and kill us tren peepte— rape us, castrate us and kill us from people who— rape us, castrate us and kill us from people who are trans antes.— from people who are trans critics. there— from people who are trans critics. there is— from people who are trans critics. there is bad behaviour on critics. there is bad behaviour en tetn— critics. there is bad behaviour on both sides.— critics. there is bad behaviour on both sides. we— critics. there is bad behaviour on both sides. we have to cool it on both sides. we have to cool tt ant— on both sides. we have to cool it and recognise— on both sides. we have to cool it and recognise that most peepte— it and recognise that most peepte are— it and recognise that most people are decent in the middle and people are decent in the middle ant are— people are decent in the middle and are behaving— people are decent in the middle and are behaving with courtesy ant— and are behaving with courtesy ant respect— and are behaving with courtesy and respect for— and are behaving with courtesy and respect for others. but you knew— and respect for others. but you knew wnen — and respect for others. but you know when it's— and respect for others. but you know when it's said that trans peepte— know when it's said that trans peepte are— know when it's said that trans peepte a— know when it's said that trans people are a threat to biological— people are a threat to biological women, that is just

stnptw— biological women, that is just stnptw net— biological women, that is just simply not true— biological women, that is just simply not true .— biological women, that is just simply not true . you now, of simply not true. you now, of course, have been a few bad apptes— course, have been a few bad apptes. tnere— course, have been a few bad apples. there are— course, have been a few bad apples. there are a few bad trans— apples. there are a few bad trans peepte— apples. there are a few bad trans people like there's a few tat— trans people like there's a few ttat gaw— trans people like there's a few bad gay pebble-— trans people like there's a few bad gay people. but that's no excuse for demonising the whole eennwnttw— excuse for demonising the whole eennwnttw ant— excuse for demonising the whole community and suggesting that tnew— community and suggesting that tnew are— community and suggesting that tnew a— community and suggesting that they are a threat— community and suggesting that they are a threat and i think tnat— they are a threat and i think that responsible— they are a threat and i think that responsible business voice wttt— that responsible business voice wttt stant— that responsible business voice wttt stant ap— that responsible business voice will stand up to— that responsible business voice will stand up to defend all tnetr— will stand up to defend all their staff— will stand up to defend all their staff and— will stand up to defend all their staff and all their customers— their staff and all their customers and take a stand agatnst— customers and take a stand against prejudice know that's the against prejudice know that's tne rtgnt— against prejudice know that's the right thing— against prejudice know that's the right thing to do. and i tntnt— the right thing to do. and i tntnt we— the right thing to do. and i think we need— the right thing to do. and i think we need more kindness and sewnesw— think we need more kindness and eewrtesw tn— think we need more kindness and sewnesw tn tnts— think we need more kindness and courtesy in this debate, not tnese— courtesy in this debate, not tnese tatse— courtesy in this debate, not these false accusations and misrepresentation of what people nave— misrepresentation of what people nave sart— misrepresentation of what people nave satt ant— misrepresentation of what people have said and the— misrepresentation of what people have said and the boss of wix nas— have said and the boss of wix nas teen— have said and the boss of wix nas teen a— have said and the boss of wix has been a responsible employer. he wants— has been a responsible employer. he wants te— has been a responsible employer. he wants to protect— has been a responsible employer. he wants to protect his staff ant— he wants to protect his staff and customers— he wants to protect his staff and customers who happen to be tras— and customers who happen to be tras tnat-s— and customers who happen to be tras was a— and customers who happen to be trans. that's a good— and customers who happen to be trans. that's a good thing. wett— trans. that's a good thing. wett. ttant— trans. that's a good thing. well, thank you _ trans. that's a good thing. well, thank you very- trans. that's a good thing. well, thank you very much indeed for your time. peter tatchell, director of the peter tatchell foundation and an lgbtq activist . of course, claire , your . of course, claire, your response to this ? because i response to this? because i think the problem is, is that

people can call you a transphobe simply because you don't think that a man can change their sex. it is a really , really toxic it is a really, really toxic tetate— it is a really, really toxic debate and— it is a really, really toxic debate and it's a very complicated- debate and it's a very complicated one. so if you wantet— complicated one. so if you wantet te— complicated one. so if you wanted to ask— complicated one. so if you wanted to ask questions about it to understand— wanted to ask questions about it to understand more, you suddenly get taken— to understand more, you suddenly get taken tewn— to understand more, you suddenly get taken down onto one side of the get taken down onto one side of tne argument— get taken down onto one side of the argument or— get taken down onto one side of the argument or the other. and i ttnt— the argument or the other. and i ttnt tnat— the argument or the other. and i find that really,— the argument or the other. and i find that really, really worrying-— find that really, really werwtng. t— find that really, really worrying. i think this story in pantewtar— worrying. i think this story in pantewtar ts— worrying. i think this story in particular is quite concerning. why— particular is quite concerning. why snewtt— particular is quite concerning. why snewtt a— particular is quite concerning. why should a diy store feel the neet— why should a diy store feel the neet te— why should a diy store feel the need to publicise— why should a diy store feel the need to publicise to anybody wnat— need to publicise to anybody wnat tts— need to publicise to anybody wnat tt-s getng— need to publicise to anybody what it's going to do to protect start— what it's going to do to protect statt ant— what it's going to do to protect staff and shoppers in their stee?— staff and shoppers in their stere? why— staff and shoppers in their store? why we've never had that tetere— store? why we've never had that tetere .— store? why we've never had that tetere . we-we— store? why we've never had that before . we've never had that for before. we've never had that for getng— before. we've never had that for getng tn— before. we've never had that for women going in there. we've nat— women going in there. we've never had that— women going in there. we've never had that for gay people. tnat-s— never had that for gay people. was ten— never had that for gay people. that's very true. _ never had that for gay people. that's very true. so why now do tnew— that's very true. so why now do tnew teet— that's very true. so why now do tnew teet tne — that's very true. so why now do they feel the need— that's very true. so why now do they feel the need to tell everybody— they feel the need to tell everybody that this is what tnew-re— everybody that this is what they're doing?— everybody that this is what they're doing? absolutely. you neet—wew- they're doing? absolutely. you need _your staff. need to look after your staff ant— need to look after your staff ant-tnt- need to look after your staff ant-ttnt wew- need to look after your staff and but you don't need to look after your staff- and-but you don't need and shoppers, but you don't need to and shoppers, but you don't need te pwtttetse— and shoppers, but you don't need te pwpttetse tt— and shoppers, but you don't need to publicise it at— and shoppers, but you don't need to publicise it at the same tne.— to publicise it at the same the wnen— to publicise it at the same time, which has- to publicise it at the same time, which has just caused even rnere—wel more division because here we are-suntaw— more division because here we are sunday afternoon are on a sunday afternoon ttsewsstng— are on a sunday afternoon discussing actions from a discussing these actions from a stere— discussing these actions from a stee-wew— discussing these actions from a stere-wew-ge- discussing these actions from a

stere-wew-ge te- discussing these actions from a store you go to when store that you only go to when you— store that you only go to when wew-te— store that you only go to when wew-te pat— store that you only go to when you-to put-shelvesi store that you only go to when- you-to put-shelves up. you need to put some shelves up. wew— you need to put some shelves up. wew-tatse— you need to put some shelves up. wew-ratse a— you need to put some shelves up. wew-ratse a you— you need to put some shelves up. now-raise a you .a - you need to put some shelves up. now-raise a you-a very. now you raise a you raise a very good point there, stephen. someone's just written in howard silk has written in and i think this describes sums up a lot of people's frustration with this topic. i for one, am not transphobic. i don't attack or fear trans people . however, i am fear trans people. however, i am very opposed to the trans activists and their attacks on people like kelly j. keane she's a prominent a feminist and female rights activist, and i will not shop at wix due to this statement from the ceo. he is alienating very normal people by saying that if you have trans critical views, i.e. that you think biological sex matter , is think biological sex matter, is that you're not welcome, then it's madness . i poured jk it's madness. i poured jk tewttng— it's madness. i poured jk tewttng .— it's madness. i poured jk rowling . it's— it's madness. i poured jk rowling . it's not- : i poured jk rowling . it's not going to be rowling. it's not going to be atte— rowling. it's not going to be atte te— rowling. it's not going to be atte te ge— rowling. it's not going to be atte te ge tn— rowling. it's not going to be able to go in and buy a box of tts— able to go in and buy a box of screws. it's going— able to go in and buy a box of screws. it's going to be terrttte— screws. it's going to be terrible and— screws. it's going to be terrible and i'm not going to be atte— terrible and i'm not going to be atte te— terrible and i'm not going to be atte te. — terrible and i'm not going to be atte te. r— terrible and i'm not going to be able to. i don't— terrible and i'm not going to be able to. i don't know- terrible and i'm not going to be able to. t:ti“ c able to. i don't know about claire, but i but look, the point is, as we discovered in the labour party some years ago, you used the word bigot at your peril because very, very

peril because it's a very, very dangerous gordon brown. you have peril because it's a very, very daiexcellentordon brown. you have peril because it's a very, very daiexcellent memory. wn. you have peril because it's a very, very- daiexcellent memory. yes you have peril because it's a very, very- daiexcellent memory. yes iyou have peril because it's a very, very- daiexcellent memory. yes i wishiave an excellent memory. yes i wish i'd an excellent memory. yes i wish tt tergetten— an excellent memory. yes i wish i'd forgotten-but— an excellent memory. yes i wish i'd forgotten but look, the i'd forgotten it. but look, the reatttw— i'd forgotten it. but look, the reatttw-wtx— i'd forgotten it. but look, the reality-wixlthe- i'd forgotten it. but look, the reality wix the past reality is that wix in the past nave— reality is that wix in the past nave-rearw— reality is that wix in the past have-really good.- reality is that wix in the past have really good. they have been really good. they enptew— have been really good. they employ a— have been really good. they employ a tet— have been really good. they employ a lot of— have been really good. they employ a lot of older people. ven— employ a lot of older people. wew-tnew— employ a lot of older people. you-they don't- employ a lot of older people. you they don't practise you know, they don't practise age—tnere-sl age discrimination. there's a lot age discrimination. there's a tet—wew- age discrimination. there's a tet—wew knew.- age discrimination. there's ai lot—you know, even age discrimination. there's a- lot_you know, even of lot of people, you know, even of my age— lot of people, you know, even of my age werttng— lot of people, you know, even of my age werttng tn— lot of people, you know, even of my age working in wix. and it's wew— my age working in wix. and it's wew geet— my age working in wix. and it's wew geet. nnt— my age working in wix. and it's wew geet. nnt-ws- my age working in wix. and it's very good. but us turn to very good. but let us turn to teen— very good. but let us turn to teer|ean— very good. but let us turn to beer.imean, look- very good. but let us turn to beer. mean, look happened beer. i mean, look what happened in beer. i mean, look what happened tn-wttn— beer. i mean, look what happened tn-wttn nnt— beer. i mean, look what happened in _with bud light.- beer. i mean, look what happened in with bud light. you in america with bud light. you remember when— in america with bud light. you remember when decided remember when they decided to put remember when they decided to pat-tatets— remember when they decided to pat-tatets a— remember when they decided to put-labels a very- remember when they decided to put labels a very well put on their labels a very well tnewn— put on their labels a very well tnewn —sawtng.l known trans activist saying, i ttnt— known trans activist saying, i trtnt-tnetr— known trans activist saying, i drink their nosedive known trans activist saying, i. drink-their-nosedive . drink and their sales nosedive. ttnt— drink and their sales nosedive. ant wnen— drink and their sales nosedive. ant wnen wew— drink and their sales nosedive. and when you say— drink and their sales nosedive. and when you say and go and when you say go woke and go prete— and when you say go woke and go tretelwtx— and when you say go woke and go tretelwtx er— and when you say go woke and go broke wix or whatever it was, broke at wix or whatever it was, i broke at wix or whatever it was, t tntnt— broke at wix or whatever it was, i think presumably— broke at wix or whatever it was, i think presumably you're referencing— i think presumably you're. referencing—this referencing this. i think this is referencing this. i think this ts-ctatre— referencing this. i think this is-claire is- referencing this. i think this is claire is absolutely is and as claire is absolutely rtgtt—ts- right, the word toxic is nasstwetw— right, the word toxic is massively overused we tend massively overused and we tend to massively overused and we tend te tnrew— massively overused and we tend te tnrew tt— massively overused and we tend te tnrew tt tn— massively overused and we tend to throw it in everywhere. if tnere— to throw it in everywhere. if ever there was— to throw it in everywhere. if ever there was a- to throw it in everywhere. if ever there was a case of the exenptar— ever there was a case of the exenptar et— ever there was a case of the exemplar of toxicity , it is this exemplar of toxicity, it is this tetate— exemplar of toxicity, it is this tetate. ant— exemplar of toxicity, it is this debate. and _to - exemplar of toxicity, it is this debate. and to say i'm debate. and i have to say i'm wttt— debate. and i have to say i'm with kathleen— debate. and i have to say i'm with kathleen stock and jk tewttng— with kathleen stock and jk ttewttng. nnt— with kathleen stock and jk rowling. but wasn't it sound? wean— rowling. but wasn't it sound? wean tnt— rowling. but wasn't it sound? yeah but wasn't— rowling. but wasn't it sound? yeah but wasn't it marvellous to near—teten- hear the mellowing of peter tatenette— hear the mellowing of peter tatchell?imean_ hear the mellowing of peter tatchell? mean , it must be tatchell? i mean, it must be because— tatchell? i mean, it must be because tne— tatchell? i mean, it must be because the australians are tetng—tn- because the australians are tetng—tn tne- because the australians arei doing—in the test doing fairly well in the test natt— doing fairly well in the test match. - peter, - doing fairly well in the test match. peter, peter match. but now peter, peter is ten— match. but now peter, peter is wew-ne— match. but now peter, peter is very-he ente- match. but now peter, peter is very- he comes on - match. but now peter, peter is very- he comes on and| very good. he comes on and discusses these topics with people who often very much disagree with so i will

disagree with him. so i will thank for that because it thank him for that because it can't be particularly when can't be easy, particularly when he with he vehemently disagrees with a lot i say and others as lot of what i say and others as well. that's what makes for well. but that's what makes for a good debate. makes gb news. it makes we have every makes for gb news. we have every side represented constantly and it's brilliant and it makes for fantastic we fantastic conversation. now, we did to wicks, who did reach out to wicks, who released the following statement on of their chief on behalf of their chief organising officer. it on behalf of their chief organising officer . it says organising officer. it says everyone is welcome at wicks. we are proud to be an inclusive home, improve retailer are home, improve retailer and are committed building committed to building a workplace and culture where all colleagues and customers can feel at home. how lovely we you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. lots more coming up on the show this afternoon. we'll be getting you all the very latest on the government's migrant housing plans, including the plan an the prime minister's plan an inadvertently. it's inadvertently. well, it's inadvertently. well, it's inadvertently led to a bigger backlog of newer claims. so he's messed that up. but first, let's get the news with . aaron

get the news with. aaron thanks, emily. it is 231. i'm aaren— thanks, emily. it is 231. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. wteeta— aaron armstrong in the newsroom. wteeta sturgeen— aaron armstrong in the newsroom. nicola sturgeon maintained she's tnneeent— nicola sturgeon maintained she's tnneeent et— nicola sturgeon maintained she's tnneeent et any— nicola sturgeon maintained she's innocent of any wrongdoing after tetng— innocent of any wrongdoing after being questioned— innocent of any wrongdoing after being questioned by police investigating— being questioned by police investigating snp finances last weetent— investigating snp finances last weetent .— investigating snp finances last weekend , scotland's former first weekend, scotland's former first tttntster— weekend, scotland's former first tttntster spete— weekend, scotland's former first minister spoke as— weekend, scotland's former first minister spoke as she returned neme— minister spoke as she returned nene ter— minister spoke as she returned nene ter tne— minister spoke as she returned home for the first— minister spoke as she returned home for the first time since ner— home for the first time since ner anest— home for the first time since her arrest. she— home for the first time since her arrest. she was released wttnewt— her arrest. she was released without charge.— her arrest. she was released without charge. you know , i without charge. you know, i cant— without charge. you know, i cant saw— without charge. you know, i cant say wew— without charge. you know, i can't say very much so what i wttt— can't say very much so what i wttt saw— can't say very much so what i wttt saw ts— can't say very much so what i will say is reiterate the statement— will say is reiterate the statement issued last sunday am eertatn— statement issued last sunday am senatn tnat— statement issued last sunday am certain that have— statement issued last sunday am certain that have done nothing wreng— certain that have done nothing wreng ant— certain that have done nothing wrong and intend— certain that have done nothing wrong and intend to be back in tarttanent— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in the— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in the early part of the parliament in the early part of tne week— parliament in the early part of tne weet . — parliament in the early part of the week. i'll— parliament in the early part of the week . c. the week. i'll make myself available for questions then. obviously we can constraints that am referring to right now for now and intend to go home, catch up with some family. i know i'm a public figure. i accept what comes with that, but i'm also a human being that is entitled to a bit of privacy . entitled to a bit of privacy. the levelling up secretary, michael gove, apologised for what he's described as unacceptable behaviour at a

conservative staff party during lockdown, saying he's personally sorry in the video obtained by the mirror party goers can be heard joking about bending the rules while others dance in front of tables of food and dnnk front of tables of food and drink. indoor socialising was tannet— drink. indoor socialising was tannet at— drink. indoor socialising was banned at the— t: ” indoor socialising was banned at the time. two of the 24 banned at the time. two of the en peepte— banned at the time. two of the en peepte tn— banned at the time. two of the 24 people in attendance were nanet— 24 people in attendance were nanet tn— 24 people in attendance were named in boris— 24 people in attendance were named in boris johnson's restgnatten— named in boris johnson's resignation honours list. the wet— resignation honours list. the met tette— resignation honours list. the met police says— resignation honours list. the met police says it's aware of tne— met police says it's aware of tne ne— met police says it's aware of the new footage— met police says it's aware of the new footage and is considering— the new footage and is considering it. the new footage and is considering it . more the new footage and is considering it. more than the new footage and is considering it . more than 10,000 considering it. more than 10,000 peepte— considering it. more than 10,000 peepte nave— considering it. more than 10,000 people have been— considering it. more than 10,000 people have been detected eresstng— people have been detected crossing the _ people have been detected crossing the english channel in smatt— crossing the english channel in snatt teats— crossing the english channel in small boats so— crossing the english channel in small boats so far— crossing the english channel in small boats so far this year. nene— small boats so far this year. home office— small boats so far this year. home office figures have eenttrnet— home office figures have confirmed crossings have teaset— confirmed crossings have increased _of - confirmed crossings have - increased _of - recent increased because of the recent geet— increased because of the recent geet weatten— increased because of the recent good weather, with more than 2500— good weather, with more than 2500 nattng— good weather, with more than 2500 making the— good weather, with more than 2500 making the journey in the past— 2500 making the journey in the past week.— 2500 making the journey in the past week, however, the total nwrnert— past week, however, the total nwrnert et— past week, however, the total number of crossings so far this wear— number of crossings so far this year enatns— number of crossings so far this year remains below the egwtwatent— year remains below the equivalent number at this point tast— equivalent number at this point tast wear— equivalent number at this point tast wear .— equivalent number at this point tast year . ant— equivalent number at this point last year . and more information last year. and more information on last year. and more information en att— last year. and more information en att et— last year. and more information en att et ew— last year. and more information on all of our stories is on our wetstte— on all of our stories is on our website. that— on all of our stories is on our website. that is— on all of our stories is on our website. that is gb news dot com

we're proud to be gb news is the peepte-s— we're proud to be gb news is the people's channel. _ we're proud to be gb news is the people's channel. ’“ people's channel. britain's news . channel welcome— people's channel. britain's news . channel welcome back.- people's channel. ’“ ’“ welcome back. you're . channel welcome back. you're watentng— . channel welcome back. you're watentng ant— ’“ welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb wews— watching and listening to gb wews swntaw— watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carter— news sunday with me, emily carter en— news sunday with me, emily carter en wew— news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv, online and rate.— carver on your tv, online and rate. wew.— carver on your tv, online and rate. wew. we— carver on your tv, online and radio. now, we just spoke to teten— radio. now, we just spoke to peter tatchell— radio. now, we just spoke to peter tatchell about the wix eewp — peter tatchell about the wix eewp tnat-s— peter tatchell about the wix coup that's the _ peter tatchell about the wix coup that's the diy store who sat— coup that's the diy store who satt tnat— coup that's the diy store who said that bigoted— coup that's the diy store who said that bigoted shoppers concerned about trans rights are not concerned about trans rights are net were— concerned about trans rights are net wete tn— concerned about trans rights are not welcome in stores, at least tnat— not welcome in stores, at least tnat ts— not welcome in stores, at least tnat ts tne— not welcome in stores, at least that is the headline peter ttspwtet— that is the headline peter disputed this— that is the headline peter disputed this and says he's atsetwtetw— disputed this and says he's absolutely he's— disputed this and says he's absolutely he's just saying senetntng— absolutely he's just saying something nice. he's just saying tnat— something nice. he's just saying tnat tts— something nice. he's just saying tnat is an— something nice. he's just saying that it's an inclusive environment. it's cetera. et etera— environment. it's cetera. et etera .— environment. it's cetera. et etera . nnt— environment. it's cetera. et cetera . but you've been getting cetera. but you've been getting in cetera. but you've been getting tn-ntana.— cetera. but you've been getting in-diana. edward.- cetera. but you've been getting in diana. edward. diana in touch. diana. edward. diana saws.— in touch. diana. edward. diana saws—teettatt- in touch. diana. edward. diana says, footfall drops says, let's hope footfall drops in says, let's hope footfall drops tn tnetr— says, let's hope footfall drops in their stores. _ says, let's hope footfall drops in their stores. i,— says, let's hope footfall drops in their stores. i, for one, wttt— in their stores. i, for one, wttt nee— in their stores. i, for one, will never set— in their stores. i, for one, will never set in any of will never set foot in any of wet— will never set foot in any of tnetr-agatn- will never set foot in any of tnetr-agatn .- will never set foot in any of their-again . i- will never set foot in any of their again. i think will never set foot in any of their again . i think the their stores again. i think the cro— their stores again. i think the cto et— their stores again. i think the cto et wtx— their stores again. i think the ceo of wix is— their stores again. i think the ceo of wix is the— their stores again. i think the ceo of wix is the one that is wreng— ceo of wix is the one that is wreng nere. — ceo of wix is the one that is wrong here. and— ceo of wix is the one that is wrong here. and also, many of you— wrong here. and also, many of wew nave— wrong here. and also, many of you nawe teen— wrong here. and also, many of you have been getting in touch, tasteattw— you have been getting in touch, basically essentially saying why are basically essentially saying why tnew— basically essentially saying why tnew tetng— basically essentially saying why are they doing this? it's for all corporate— are they doing this? it's for all corporate greed. apparently you all corporate greed. apparently wew mate— all corporate greed. apparently you make nenew— all corporate greed. apparently you make money out of this wrtwe— you make money out of this virtue signalling and it goes on tren— virtue signalling and it goes on tren ttere—

virtue signalling and it goes on from there. but— virtue signalling and it goes on from there. but a— virtue signalling and it goes on from there. but a lot of people are from there. but a lot of people sawtng— from there. but a lot of people sawtng ne— from there. but a lot of people are saying no one— from there. but a lot of people are saying no one cares what the wtx— are saying no one cares what the wtx pess— are saying no one cares what the wix boss thinks— are saying no one cares what the wix boss thinks anyway, but tnere— wix boss thinks anyway, but tnere wew— wix boss thinks anyway, but tnere you ge. — wix boss thinks anyway, but there you go. now moving on to there you go. now moving onto senetntng— there you go. now moving onto senetntng very— there you go. now moving on to something very, very important tnteet. — something very, very important tnteet. tne— something very, very important indeed. the number of people eresstng— indeed. the number of people eresstng tne— indeed. the number of people crossing the english channel in snatt— crossing the english channel in snatt teats— crossing the english channel in small boats topped small boats has topped 10,000. so small boats has topped 10,000. se tar— small boats has topped 10,000. se tar tnts— small boats has topped 10,000. so far this year. _ small boats has topped 10,000. so far this year. that's after tnan— so far this year. that's after more than 750— so far this year. that's after more than 750 arrived on friday. ant— more than 750 arrived on friday. xnt westertaw— more than 750 arrived on friday. xnt westertaw .— more than 750 arrived on friday. and yesterday . this is not great and yesterday. this is not great ter— and yesterday. this is not great ter tne— and yesterday. this is not great news for the government to say the news for the government to say tne teast. — news for the government to say the least, especially considering- the least, especially considering a major report this week— considering a major report this week concluded— considering a major report this week concluded that government ettens— week concluded that government ettens te — week concluded that government efforts to clear— week concluded that government efforts to clear the— week concluded that government efforts to clear the asylum taetteg— efforts to clear the asylum backlog aren't— efforts to clear the asylum backlog aren't working and their attempts— backlog aren't working and their attempts-actually- backlog aren't working and their attempts actually made attempts have actually made the sttwatten— attempts have actually made the sttwatten-.— attempts have actually made the situation-. that's- attempts have actually made the situation . that's dealt situation worse. that's dealt a nnatte— situation worse. that's dealt a rnrate ttew— situation worse. that's dealt a ante ttew te— situation worse. that's dealt a major blow to rishi sunak acas key ptetge— major blow to rishi sunak acas key ptetge te— major blow to rishi sunak acas key ptetge te ent— major blow to rishi sunak acas key pledge to end the crossing , key pledge to end the crossing, saws.— key pledge to end the crossing, saws. tne— key pledge to end the crossing, says. the national audit office saws— says. the national audit office saws tnat—en- says. the national audit office says that on people says that by focusing on people wne— says that by focusing on people wne-teen— says that by focusing on people who-been waiting- says that by focusing on people who been waiting for who have been waiting for a teetsten— who have been waiting for a decision for— who have been waiting for a decision for a— who have been waiting for a decision for a long time , it has decision for a long time, it has tnatwenenttw— decision for a long time, it has inadvertently led— decision for a long time, it has inadvertently led to a bigger taetteg— inadvertently led to a bigger taetteg et— inadvertently led to a bigger backlog of newer claimants. as the backlog of newer claimants. as tne tttegat— backlog of newer claimants. as the illegal migration crisis stews— the illegal migration crisis snews ne— the illegal migration crisis shows no signs— the illegal migration crisis shows no signs of abating. starre— shows no signs of abating. claire nana— shows no signs of abating. claire nana i'm- shows no signs of abating. claire nana i'm reading this. tts— claire nana i'm reading this. it's inadvertently led to a ttgger— it's inadvertently led to a bigger backlog of newer claims teeawse— bigger backlog of newer claims because they've _ bigger backlog of newer claims because they've been focusing too because they've been focusing tee nnet— because they've been focusing tee nwen en — because they've been focusing too much on the— because they've been focusing too much on the longer claims. i cant— too much on the longer claims. i cant get— too much on the longer claims. i cant get my— too much on the longer claims. i cant get my neat— too much on the longer claims. i

can't get my head around that. can— can't get my head around that. can you— can't get my head around that. can you exptatn— can't get my head around that. can you explain what's happening neree — can you explain what's happening neree tte— can you explain what's happening here? the claims— can you explain what's happening here? the claims that- can you explain what's happening here? “ here? the claims that have been outstanding for some time will be really complex in nature, right? often require right? we'll often require security information to come from other countries. so your reliant upon those countries providing these pieces of detail in a quick time frame that isn't going to happen in a lot of those cases. so unfortunately, now what we're seeing is if you're trying to then sort out those and unpick those cases, the cases coming along, the newer cases coming along, who some of whom could be dealt with relatively quickly now with relatively quickly are now just sitting backlog . just sitting in this backlog. taoiseach the of it is they taoiseach the crux of it is they don't have enough people to do these interviews. they don't have on recruiting more have a plan on recruiting more people and they don't have a plan on what you're going to do with claims. those with those claims. those claimants whose claims are found to be inadmissible . so what is to be inadmissible. so what is going to happen here? so you are going to happen here? so you are going to happen here? so you are going to have this bottleneck of people coming in? no way of sorting that out, no way of processing claims and no way to return to. so it is going return people to. so it is going to ipsis extremely to be a ipsis extremely difficult summer for the prime

minister weather minister because the weather is improving which encourage improving, which will encourage more over , more boats to come over, stephen, to be a little bit sympathetic to the home office. this is a gargantuan task, atsetwtetw— this is a gargantuan task, absolutely massive task. the treattng— absolutely massive task. the breaking news— absolutely massive task. the breaking news today from mark wnte— breaking news today from mark we eat— breaking news today from mark white, our homeland security ettten— white, our homeland security ettter. a— white, our homeland security editor. a number— white, our homeland security editor. a number of people eresstng— editor. a number of people crossing the— editor. a number of people crossing the english channel in snatt— crossing the english channel in snatt teats— crossing the english channel in small boats exceeded 10,000 for the small boats exceeded 10,000 for tne wear— small boats exceeded 10,000 for tne wear se— small boats exceeded 10,000 for tne year se tar. — small boats exceeded 10,000 for the year so far. and— small boats exceeded 10,000 for the year so far. and it's only tnne— the year so far. and it's only twne eewtt— the year so far. and it's only june could any— the year so far. and it's only june could any home office anwwnere— june could any home office anywhere deal— june could any home office anywhere deal with this? well, yes. — anywhere deal with this? well, wes. vea— anywhere deal with this? well, yes. wen rtgnttw— anywhere deal with this? well, yes. you rightly say- anywhere deal with this? well, yes. 41:1.”th yes. you rightly say it's a gargantuan task, but the home office is a gargantuan organisation and let me just point you, how many staff do we need? how many more additional start— need? how many more additional statt te— need? how many more additional statt te we— need? how many more additional staff do we need? _ need? how many more additional staff do we need? we- :7 how many more additional staff do we need? �*tittti : staff do we need? we need look, we need enough. however, however it takes in holland. can do it takes in holland. they can do this you when you arrive in this when you when you arrive in holland, processed holland, you are processed within 48 hours. and within the first 48 hours. and because forget, because don't forget, holland had huge the netherlands had had a huge the netherlands had a huge empire, you know, very similar the east similar to ours in the east indies in south america. so indies in south america. and so they a number of they had a large number of people coming from from people coming in from from suriname various suriname and various other places. with it. now, places. they deal with it. now, look, for 22 years look, i was an mp for 22 years

and i think every single person i knew, including good friends of like johnson, who of mine like alan johnson, who was said that was home secretary, said that the office has been totally the home office has been totally and unfit purpose as and utterly unfit for purpose as long anybody remember. long as anybody can remember. now, here now, what's happened here is you're bye you're absolutely right. bye bye. older cases. bye. working on the older cases. and forget , these aren't and don't forget, these aren't necessarily cases. necessarily complicated cases. these which have these are cases which have been appealed. where have appealed. and where people have actually know, i so actually you know, i know so many where have a many cases where you have a refusal and then come up refusal and then then come up with another category. so it's very that. look, we're very often that. so look, we're going have to bite bullet going to have to bite the bullet in country and recognise we in this country and recognise we need cards so that need to have id cards so that the pool isn't there, the economic pool isn't there, because the you can because at the moment you can come to this country, you can work, nobody's going to do anything nobody's anything about it. nobody's going have the going to ask if you have the right here. at the right to work here. and at the end two years you can go to end of two years you can go to tirana and build a palace. so we need that. we also need to process asylum applicants early and all and efficiently because in all honesty, there are certain heartbreaking people heartbreaking cases of people who but to who have no alternative but to flee their homeland. and i think there's a civilised country we should those should actually welcome those people. prepared to people. but i'm not prepared to actually country down actually see my country go down the for 23 year old the tubes. for 23 year old single men from albania who want

to across here work to come across here and work in a carwash for two years, it's out and got to out of order and it's got to stop. much to add to that. stop. well, much to add to that. they're not not particularly nnet— they're not not particularly nwen te— they're not not particularly much to add— they're not not particularly much to add to— they're not not particularly much to add to that. t:tit much to add to that. i do think it shocking revelation it is a shocking revelation given the home office given that the home office hasn't purpose for hasn't been fit for purpose for some not for many, many some time. not for many, many decades. and i've always called for immigration to become its own is too big to own department. it is too big to be with the rest of the home be in with the rest of the home office, which covers security. it passports, it covers it covers passports, it covers policing, covers drugs policing, it covers drugs policy. think it needs to be policy. i think it needs to be carved out. it's not taken seriously enough. it used to be a cabinet position. the immigration minister used to attend that was attend cabinet that was downgraded a junior downgraded to a junior minister's role. and where minister's role. and look where we you need someone to make we are. you need someone to make those decisions and you need to make quickly. can you make them quickly. can i ask you something? because people have ten— something? because people have wew-eptntens— something? because people have very-opinions.this- something? because people have veryit's-opinionsithis- “q7 because people have veryit's hard opinions this “q7 because people have veryit's hard t0)inions this “q7 because people have veryit's hard to know; this “q7 because people have veryit's hard to know what his and it's hard to know what exaettw— and it's hard to know what exaettw ts— and it's hard to know what exactly is true. - and it's hard to know what exactly is true. ’“ exactly is true. but stephen touched upon it. there is the reason it takes so to long process claimants to process claimants and then to deport very few deport people. we see very few people ever get deported. it seems of our country. but seems out of our country. but

but clare, go ahead. okay there are many, many problems- git : there are many, many problems with tnts— are many, many problems with we teeawse— are many, many problems with this because when you talk about renewng— this because when you talk about renewng peepte— this because when you talk about removing people from the centre.— removing people from the sewntw. you— removing people from the country, you need to be able to nave— country, you need to be able to nave a— country, you need to be able to nave a centre— country, you need to be able to have a country to— country, you need to be able to have a country to send them back to. have a country to send them back te. wew.— have a country to send them back te. wew. tne— have a country to send them back to. now, the three— have a country to send them back to. now, the three top countries . tran— to. now, the three top countries . tran trag— to. now, the three top countries , iran, iraq, afghanistan are tne— , iran, iraq, afghanistan are tne tnree— , iran, iraq, afghanistan are the three countries with the nest— the three countries with the nest peepte — the three countries with the most people coming over by boat. wett— most people coming over by boat. wett new— most people coming over by boat. wett new are— most people coming over by boat. well how are you— most people coming over by boat. well how are you going to return tnen — well how are you going to return tnen te— well how are you going to return tnen te tnese— well how are you going to return them to those countries? there nnt.— them to those countries? there tsn-t. tnere— them to those countries? there isn't. there are— them to those countries? there isn't. there are no— them to those countries? there isn't. there are no agreements in isn't. there are no agreements tn ptaee— isn't. there are no agreements tn ptaee-vew— isn't. there are no agreements in place.-you are- isn't. there are no agreements in place. you are also in place. yes. you are also petenttattw— in place. yes. you are also potentially sending some people tast— potentially sending some people tact-teatn— potentially sending some people past-teatn .— potentially sending some people back death , which we back to their death, which we ten-t— back to their death, which we tent-a— back to their death, which we don't a reasonable don't do as a reasonable sewntrw— don't do as a reasonable eenntw-wew- don't do as a reasonable country. you don't have country. so if you don't have tnat— country. so if you don't have tnat tn— country. so if you don't have that in hand,— country. so if you don't have that in hand, what else are you going— that in hand, what else are you getng te— that in hand, what else are you getng te te— that in hand, what else are you going to do about— that in hand, what else are you going to do about it? the gewernnent— going to do about it? the government an going to do about it? the- government-an idea with government did have an idea with twanta— government did have an idea with rwanda-thought— government did have an idea with rwanda thought through rwanda badly thought through ttea. — rwanda badly thought through ttea. _t— rwanda badly thought through ttea. _tt wew- rwanda badly thought through idea. _if you are- rwanda badly thought through idea. if you are going idea. however if you are going to idea. however if you are going te teet— idea. however if you are going te teet at— idea. however if you are going to look at something like that, it to look at something like that, tt neets— to look at something like that, tt neets te— to look at something like that, it needs to be— to look at something like that, it needs to be dealt with preper. — it needs to be dealt with preper. .neet- it needs to be dealt with proper. need to have that proper. you need to have that ttnt— proper. you need to have that kind-deterrence— proper. you need to have that kind deterrence if that's kind of deterrence if that's wnat— kind of deterrence if that's wnat wew— kind of deterrence if that's what you want— kind of deterrence if that's what you want it to be, or werttng— what you want it to be, or working with— what you want it to be, or working with the international eennwnttw— working with the international eennwnttw tn— working with the international community in order to get those peepte— community in order to get those peepte te— community in order to get those peepte te satetw. — community in order to get those people to safety. and that's wnat— people to safety. and that's wnat ne— people to safety. and that's what no government , it people to safety. and that's what no government, it seems to nave— what no government, it seems to nave reatt— what no government, it seems to nawe really put— what no government, it seems to have really put together at the eent— have really put together at the eent ts— have really put together at the eent ts a— have really put together at the moment is a coherent plan to be atte— moment is a coherent plan to be atte te— moment is a coherent plan to be atte te ee— moment is a coherent plan to be

atte te ap— moment is a coherent plan to be able to come up with an idea to ettner— able to come up with an idea to ettner pes— able to come up with an idea to either process people quickly ant— either process people quickly and remove them or to be able to tnen— and remove them or to be able to tnen en— and remove them or to be able to move them on and— and remove them or to be able to move them on and let someone etse— move them on and let someone etse pes— move them on and let someone etse pes rt.— move them on and let someone else process it. it— move them on and let someone else process it. it just doesn't nappen.— else process it. it just doesn't nappen. tnt— else process it. it just doesn't happen. and nobody has taken tnat— happen. and nobody has taken tnat sett— happen. and nobody has taken tnat sert et— happen. and nobody has taken that sort of bullet and made it nappen. — that sort of bullet and made it nappen. ttnt— that sort of bullet and made it happen. and there seems to be no wttt— happen. and there seems to be no wttt tn— happen. and there seems to be no wttt tn enter— happen. and there seems to be no will in order to— happen. and there seems to be no will in order to do— happen. and there seems to be no will in order to do so. �*tittticc will in order to do so. well, i tttnt— will in order to do so. well, i tttnt tte— will in order to do so. well, i think the rwanda policy is probably a good idea. stephen i think it's nonsense. if we were aetwattw— think it's nonsense. if we were aetwattw atte— think it's nonsense. if we were actually able if— think it's nonsense. if we were actually able if we were aetwattw— actually able if we were actually able- actually able if we were actually able to get those tttgnts— actually able to get those tttgnts etr— actually able to get those flights off the _ actually able to get those flights off the ground, because it flights off the ground, because tt sees— flights off the ground, because it seems like— flights off the ground, because it seems like the— flights off the ground, because it seems like the legal system is it seems like the legal system ts aettng— it seems like the legal system is acting against— it seems like the legal system is acting against government is acting against the government wnen—any— is acting against the government wnen—any et- is acting against the government when—any of these. i when it comes to any of these. tne—tne- when it comes to any of these.| tne—tne taw- the government makes the law. i mean-tsraetts— the government makes the law. i mean,-israelis send- the government makes the law. i mean, israelis send people mean, the israelis send people to mean, the israelis send people te twanta— mean, the israelis send people to rwanda. they— mean, the israelis send people to rwanda. they sent 4000 people to rwanda. they sent 4000 people te-ant— to rwanda. they sent 4000 people to-and-germans- to rwanda. and the germans apparenttw—tel to rwanda. and the germansi apparenttw—te te to rwanda. and the germans. apparently—to do it. apparently want the eu to do it. ttnt— apparently want the eu to do it. ant-teng— apparently want the eu to do it. ant-teng wee— apparently want the eu to do it. and long were they there? and how long were they there? they— and how long were they there? tnew tnen — and how long were they there? they then disappeared after a eewpte— they then disappeared after a eewpte-teet- they then disappeared after a. couple-look-thing couple of weeks. look the thing attent— couple of weeks. look the thing about-incredibly- about iran is incredibly tnpenant— about iran is incredibly. important—deal about iran is incredibly- important_deal with important. i used to deal with nwge— important. i used to deal with nwge-seeres- important. i used to deal with huge-scores and- important. i used to deal with. huge-scores and scores huge numbers, scores and scores of huge numbers, scores and scores et-et— huge numbers, scores and scores et-et peepte— huge numbers, scores and scores of of people coming from of cases of people coming from tran— of cases of people coming from tran ant— of cases of people coming from tran ant tn— of cases of people coming from tran ant tn nanw— of cases of people coming from iran, and in many cases they were-mendacious.- were quite mendacious. they went— were quite mendacious. they would—becausei were quite mendacious. they. would—because i'm would say, i'm here because i'm tetng—ant- would say, i'm here because i'm being—and then- would say, i'm here because i'm being and then they being persecuted. and then they went— being persecuted. and then they wewtt-tnew— being persecuted. and then they would they refused, would say, if they got refused, tnew-t— would say, if they got refused, they'd-actually,- would say, if they got refused, they'd actually, gay. they'd say, actually, i'm gay. ant— they'd say, actually, i'm gay. ant-wewtt- they'd say, actually, i'm gay. and-would be- and then that would be investigated. - and then that would be-

investigated. _they'd investigated. and then they'd 5say,— investigated. and then they'd say—knowt - say, actually, you know, i'm a cnrtsttan— say, actually, you know, i'm a christian and— say, actually, you know, i'm a christian and but— say, actually, you know, i'm a christian and but in reality, if senetetw— christian and but in reality, if senetetw ts— christian and but in reality, if somebody is coming from iran and we—taet.- somebody is coming from iran and we—taet. we- we can't send them back, we snewtt— we can't send them back, we snewtt-te- we can't send them back, we should be accepting should actually be accepting tnen — should actually be accepting tnen _wttn- should actually be accepting| them _with them them and working with them because— them and working with them because-than- them and working with them because than wasting because rather than wasting ewewpetw-s— because rather than wasting everybody's time and money in going—ludicrous. going through this ludicrous ngnarete— going through this ludicrous. rigmarole_actually rigmarole of trying to actually sent—te- rigmarole of trying to actually sent—te a- rigmarole of trying to actually. send _to a country send somebody back to a country tnat— send somebody back to a country tnat-newer— send somebody back to a country that-never-it's- send somebody back to a country that-never-it's like- that you never can, it's like senatta. —ne- that you never can, it's like. somalia._no planes somalia. there were no planes tanttng—we- somalia. there were no planesi landing—we couldn't somalia. there were no planes lar anything we couldn't somalia. there were no planes laranything about we couldn't somalia. there were no planes laranything about it.ie couldn't somalia. there were no planes laranything about it. butyuldn't do anything about it. but tertwnatetw— do anything about it. but fortunately, have a fortunately, we now have a system — fortunately, we now have a system et— fortunately, we now have a system of legitimate entry system of a legitimate entry petnt— system of a legitimate entry petnt wnere— system of a legitimate entry point where people from somalia wne— point where people from somalia wne-nawe— point where people from somalia who - have relatives - who actually have relatives in tnts— this country have family reunion. we— this country have family reunion. we can actually work it prepertw. — reunion. we can actually work it prepertw. tt— reunion. we can actually work it prepertw. rt tast— reunion. we can actually work it properly. c c properly. it just seems like we've absolutely we've got absolutely zero deterrence. we deterrence. right. and then we haven't people to haven't got enough people to process and we're process these claims. and we're spending millions and millions and money we're and the amount of money we're spending on everything when it comes asylum, the hotel comes to asylum, the hotel accommodation, etcetera, etcetera, doubled etcetera, has apparently doubled in from last year. in the last year from last year. it what's happening. it is just not what's happening. it's what's it's just look, look what's nappentng— it's just look, look what's happening rest of it's just look, look what's- happening-rest of europe. happening in the rest of europe. teet— happening in the rest of europe. teet wnat-s— happening in the rest of europe. look what's happening in hungary.— look what's happening in hungary teet— look what's happening in hungary. look looks happening in tetant—tnel poland, what's happening in the teen— poland, what's happening in the. czeen—nappentng czech republic, what's happening in czech republic, what's happening tn—et— czech republic, what's happening tn—et peepte- in croatia. a lot of people in twrepe— in croatia. a lot of people in twrepe are— in croatia. a lot of people in europe are just— in croatia. a lot of people in europe are just saying, look, if you— europe are just saying, look, if wew tan-t— europe are just saying, look, if you cant sett— europe are just saying, look, if you can't sort the— europe are just saying, look, if you can't sort the problems, we wttt— you can't sort the problems, we wttt sett— you can't sort the problems, we wttt sert tne— you can't sort the problems, we will sort the problems out in. sene—trwtat some cases in the most brutal ways.— some cases in the most brutal ways—wner-

some cases in the most brutali ways._viktor orban ways. but it needs viktor orban is ways. but it needs viktor orban ts-at— ways. but it needs viktor orban ts-at tne— ways. but it needs viktor orban is-at the moment,- ways. but it needs viktor orban is at the moment, you is saying at the moment, you cant— is saying at the moment, you cant sewe— is saying at the moment, you can't solve the— is saying at the moment, you can't solve the problem, tneretere— can't solve the problem, therefore i'm— can't solve the problem, therefore i'm going solve therefore i'm going to solve the pretten— therefore i'm going to solve thei pretten—te problem and you're not going to lie. problem and you're not going to tte. — problem and you're not going to tte. wett— problem and you're not going to lie. well, we're— problem and you're not going to lie. well, we're going- problem and you're not going to lie. t:tit “t: lie. well, we're going to have to. sorry clare. we're going to nave— to. sorry clare. we're 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fitzwilliams . richard, thank you fitzwilliams. richard, thank you wew— fitzwilliams. richard, thank you wew-tnteet— fitzwilliams. richard, thank you very-indeed for- fitzwilliams. richard, thank you very indeed for joining fitzwilliams. richard, thank you very indeed forjoining me very much indeed forjoining me . tnts— very much indeed forjoining me . tnts ts— very much indeed forjoining me . tnts ts gutte— very much indeed forjoining me . this is quite an— very much indeed forjoining me . this is quite an intervention tren— . this is quite an intervention tren tnts— . this is quite an intervention from this chap— . this is quite an intervention from this chap at— . this is quite an intervention from this chap at spotify. yes ne— from this chap at spotify. yes te ts— from this chap at spotify. yes te ts a— from this chap at spotify. yes sir. he is a very— from this chap at spotify. yes sir. he is a very colourful figure and apparently has very forthright opinions. and the interpretation— forthright opinions. and the interpretation of— t; ’“ and the interpretation of grifters as

antsts— interpretation of grifters as con artists has— interpretation of grifters as con artists has not gone down wew— con artists has not gone down wew wett. — con artists has not gone down wew wett. t— con artists has not gone down very well. i suspect- con artists has not gone down very well. i very well. i suspect, with the sussexes. but the very well. i but the problems are sussexes. but the problems are ttrsttw— sussexes. but the problems are ttrsttw. tnere-s— sussexes. but the problems are firstly, there's little— but the problems are firstly, there's little doubt spetttw— firstly, there's little doubt spetttw ant— firstly, there's little doubt spotify and the sussexes that ttegnan— spotify and the sussexes that meghan didn't— spotify and the sussexes that meghan didn't with archetypes nake— meghan didn't with archetypes nate tne— meghan didn't with archetypes make the impression that they teettng— make the impression that they were looking for. _ make the impression that they were looking for. and clearly tnts— were looking for. and clearly we nas— were looking for. and clearly this has been— were looking for. and clearly this has been a— were looking for. and clearly this has been a failure. but the tnat— this has been a failure. but the rumours that netflix have only tene— rumours that netflix have only tene ene— rumours that netflix have only done one series,— rumours that netflix have only done one series, one six hour ter— done one series, one six hour series for netflix— done one series, one six hour series for netflix ,_ done one series, one six hour series for netflix , and there series for netflix, and there an ttea— series for netflix, and there was an idea that animated series eattet— was an idea that animated series eattet teat.— was an idea that animated series called pearl, which— was an idea that animated series called pearl, which she was going— called pearl, which she was getng te— called pearl, which she was getng te te— called pearl, which she was going to be involved with and tnat-s— going to be involved with and tnat-s teen— going to be involved with and that's been pulled. and if that tnat-s— that's been pulled. and if that tnat-s went— that's been pulled. and if that that's worth some $100 million, you that's worth some $100 million, wew knew.— that's worth some $100 million, you knew. tt— that's worth some $100 million, you know, if that— that's worth some $100 million, you know, if that deal comes apart— you know, if that deal comes apan .— you know, if that deal comes apan . tnew— you know, if that deal comes apart , they really are in apart, they really are in trentte— apart, they really are in trouble. and— apart, they really are in trouble. and there are all sorts of rumours that— trouble. and there are all sorts of rumours that we hear are pessttte— of rumours that we hear are pessttte .— of rumours that we hear are possible . one— of rumours that we hear are possible . one of- of rumours that we hear are possible . one of the faces of possible. one of the faces of pter— possible. one of the faces of nter .— possible. one of the faces of nter . art — possible. one of the faces of dior , ari emanuel, who's the dior, ari emanuel, who's the wttttan — dior, ari emanuel, who's the william morris— dior, ari emanuel, who's the william morris endeavour agent, see william morris endeavour agent, nts— william morris endeavour agent, see his meghan's_ william morris endeavour agent, see his meghan's agent. he is ten— see his meghan's agent. he is ten wett— see his meghan's agent. he is very well connected. so it expect— very well connected. so it expect something dramatic . but expect something dramatic. but of expect something dramatic. but et tn— expect something dramatic. but of course i'm not— expect something dramatic. but of course i'm not absolutely

senatn— of course i'm not absolutely certain what. _ of course i'm not absolutely certain what. �*tittticc “itt: certain what. well, i had the displeasure of listening to the entirety of the spotify podcast or at least most of it, and it was just so patronising . it was was just so patronising. it was all about how meghan is a victim in all these different ways, she says she was talking about women in general, but she certainly wasn't. it was about meghan. meghan and it was just a little bit boring and just so predictable. it was same predictable. it was the same sort conversations sort of vacuous conversations that you hear from, you know, the most woke issues you could possibly imagine. it just wasn't a great podcast. but do you think when it comes to the fact that they can no longer potentially sell all information about the royal family, is there anything else they have to offer . well, this is the big question . tnts— . well, this is the big question . tnts ts— . well, this is the big question . this is precisely— well, this is the big question . this is precisely what is exeretstng— . this is precisely what is exercising them with the spotify - my— exercising them with the spotify . my pretten— exercising them with the spotify . my problem with conceivable difficulties— . my problem with conceivable difficulties with— . my problem with conceivable difficulties with netflix and the difficulties with netflix and tne tast— difficulties with netflix and the fact also— difficulties with netflix and the fact also the random house teet— the fact also the random house teet teat.— the fact also the random house teet teat. t— the fact also the random house book deal. i mean— the fact also the random house book deal. i mean , this was book deal. i mean, this was swppeset— book deal. i mean, this was

swppeset te— book deal. i mean, this was supposed to be— book deal. i mean, this was supposed to be talked about tetere— supposed to be talked about before books— supposed to be talked about before books so— supposed to be talked about before books so meghan could wnte— before books so meghan could wrtte a— before books so meghan could write a memoirs.— before books so meghan could write a memoirs. harry could nave— write a memoirs. harry could nave tne— write a memoirs. harry could have the other— write a memoirs. harry could have the other 400 pages it tttn-t— have the other 400 pages it tttn-t pat— have the other 400 pages it didn't put into— have the other 400 pages it didn't put into spare. and of course he could— didn't put into spare. and of course he could write his early entttneet— course he could write his early childhood too,— course he could write his early childhood too, but— course he could write his early childhood too, but hopefully et— childhood too, but hopefully none of that— childhood too, but hopefully none of that will happen. we stnptw— none of that will happen. we stnptw ten-t— none of that will happen. we simply don't know. but yes, it's wew— simply don't know. but yes, it's wew tettnttetw— simply don't know. but yes, it's very definitely possible that at petnt— very definitely possible that at some point she— very definitely possible that at some point she could go into pettttes— some point she could go into pettttes er— some point she could go into politics or some— some point she could go into politics or some point there eewtt— politics or some point there eewtt te— politics or some point there could be some— politics or some point there could be some reconfiguration of the could be some reconfiguration of tne bana— could be some reconfiguration of tne trant ant— could be some reconfiguration of the brand and there could be a wnete— the brand and there could be a wnete tet— the brand and there could be a whole lot more— the brand and there could be a whole lot more offers because tnts— whole lot more offers because we ts— whole lot more offers because we ts wnat— whole lot more offers because this is what she's— whole lot more offers because this is what she's hoping with her this is what she's hoping with net ne— this is what she's hoping with net agenew— this is what she's hoping with her new agency .— this is what she's hoping with her new agency . so it's a her new agency. so it's a gwestten— her new agency. so it's a gwestten et— her new agency. so it's a question of waiting to see wnetner— question of waiting to see whether netflix perhaps do close the whether netflix perhaps do close tne teat— whether netflix perhaps do close tne teat tn— whether netflix perhaps do close the deal in the— whether netflix perhaps do close the deal in the way they would not the deal in the way they would net wtsn — the deal in the way they would net wtsn an— the deal in the way they would not wish an and— the deal in the way they would not wish an and if— the deal in the way they would not wish an and if that's the wnat— not wish an and if that's the case, what can— not wish an and if that's the case, what can the agency pull out case, what can the agency pull ewt ter— case, what can the agency pull ewt ter tnen— case, what can the agency pull out for them because they do as you— out for them because they do as wew saw— out for them because they do as you saw tnts— out for them because they do as you say this problem of enttesstw— you say this problem of endlessly attacking the royal tantt— endlessly attacking the royal tanttw ant— endlessly attacking the royal family and the— endlessly attacking the royal family and the fact that they get se— family and the fact that they get se nnet— family and the fact that they get so much mileage. but the rats— get so much mileage. but the taets are— get so much mileage. but the facts are, however, anything tnew— facts are, however, anything tnew te— facts are, however, anything tnew te ts— facts are, however, anything they do is absolutely packed . they do is absolutely packed. tasetnattng— they do is absolutely packed. fascinating. the— they do is absolutely packed. fascinating. the planet still tne— fascinating. the planet still the so—called_ fascinating. the planet still the so—called catastrophic car enase—

the so—called catastrophic car enase tn— the so—called catastrophic car enase tn wew— the so—called catastrophic car chase in new york. look at the patttettw— chase in new york. look at the publicity surrounding that. xnwtntng— publicity surrounding that. xnwtntng te— publicity surrounding that. anything to do with harry in sewn.— anything to do with harry in sewn. ter— anything to do with harry in court, for example . so that's court, for example. so that's wew— court, for example. so that's wew ewewtntng— court, for example. so that's very everything to play for. i'm they'll— very everything to play for. i'm sure they'll find— very everything to play for. i'm sure they'll find find something i sure they'll find find something t ten-t— sure they'll find find something t ten-t tntnt— sure they'll find find something i don't think they're going to be i don't think they're going to te tntng— i don't think they're going to be living living— i don't think they're going to be living living below the treattne— be living living below the breadline, are— be living living below the breadline, are they really? but thank— breadline, are they really? but thank-very— breadline, are they really? but thank-very-indeed.l thank you very much indeed. royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. now, i'm sure everyone at home has been, you know, breath for know, bated breath waiting for stephen pounds hot take on the royal couple. well, i have to say the duchess of dior, this butterfly thing, it sounds like the thing you overhear the sort of thing you overhear at chisel counter wicks at the chisel counter at wicks doesn't it. it's, it does sound a ttttte— doesn't it. it's, it does sound a ttttte ttt— doesn't it. it's, it does sound a ttttte ttt .— doesn't it. it's, it does sound a little bit . oh _ doesn't it. it's, it does sound a little bit. oh harry- : c c it's, it does sound a little bit . oh harry protect a little bit. oh harry protect tarry. — a little bit. oh harry protect me, harry. protect me. you know, tnts— me, harry. protect me. you know, we ts.— me, harry. protect me. you know, we ts. tn— me, harry. protect me. you know, we ts. tn sorry-— me, harry. protect me. you know, this is. i'm sorry. it's— me, harry. protect me. you know, this is. i'm sorry. it'sjust atsetwtetw— this is. i'm sorry. it'sjust absolutely toe- this is. i'm sorry. it'sjust absolutely toe curling cringe nattng— absolutely toe curling cringe nattng. tt— absolutely toe curling cringe making. it really is awful. i'm starttng— making. it really is awful. i'm starttng te— making. it really is awful. i'm starting to hear— making. it really is awful. i'm starting to hear that you were ttstentng— starting to hear that you were ttstentng te— starting to hear that you were listening to the— starting to hear that you were listening to the podcast. well, i listening to the podcast. well, t entw— listening to the podcast. well, i only discovered— listening to the podcast. well, i only discovered when a podcast tast— i only discovered when a podcast tast weet. — i only discovered when a podcast was last week. i— i only discovered when a podcast was last week. i you know, i tnewgnt— was last week. i you know, i tnewgnt tt— was last week. i you know, i thought it was— was last week. i you know, i thought it was something to do wttt— thought it was something to do wttn ttsntng— thought it was something to do wttn ttsntng .— thought it was something to do with fishing , to— thought it was something to do with fishing , to be perfectly with fishing, to be perfectly nenest.— with fishing, to be perfectly nenest. nnt— with fishing, to be perfectly honest. but i— with fishing, to be perfectly honest. but i will not be buying any pter— honest. but i will not be buying any dior perfume— honest. but i will not be buying any dior perfume now on. any dior perfume from now on. serrw — any dior perfume from now on. serrw _teweetttng - sorry. you're boycotting dior. wnat— sorry. you're boycotting dior. wnat-wew.— sorry. you're boycotting dior. what-you, claire- sorry. you're boycotting dior. what-you, claire ? i'mi sorry. you're boycotting dior. l what-you, claire ? i'm so what about you, claire? i'm so fed up of the whole—

what about you, claire? i'm so fed up of the whole saga.- ”ti7 i'm so fed up of the whole saga. i have ttstenet— fed up of the whole saga. i have ttstenet te— fed up of the whole saga. i have listened to none— fed up of the whole saga. i have listened to none of— fed up of the whole saga. i have listened to none of the podcasts . se tn— listened to none of the podcasts . se tn grat— listened to none of the podcasts .se tn gtat you— listened to none of the podcasts , so i'm glad you have on on our tenan— , so i'm glad you have on on our tenatt ant— , so i'm glad you have on on our behalf and did— , so i'm glad you have on on our behalf and did it— , so i'm glad you have on on our behalf and did it so— , so i'm glad you have on on our behalf and did it so you and our te— behalf and did it so you and our viewers do not— behalf and did it so you and our viewers do not have to. txacttw. — viewers do not have to. exactly. you _ viewers do not have to. exactly. you took- viewers do not have to. >x

dignity. think, wouldn't dignity. and i think, wouldn't it be lovely if that were dignity, could somehow, somehow be unhappy be injected into this unhappy couple's and silence? couple's lives and silence? it's so it's just hard to it's just so it's just hard to tate— it's just so it's just hard to take reattw— it's just so it's just hard to take really, that- it's just so it's just hard to take really, that these 2—2 of tne— take really, that these 2—2 of tne nest— take really, that these 2—2 of the most privileged people in the most privileged people in tne entre— the most privileged people in the entire world— the most privileged people in the entire world are able to mate— the entire world are able to mate nenew— the entire world are able to make money off— the entire world are able to make money off the back of, wet.— make money off the back of, well, presenting— make money off the back of, well, presenting themselves as as wettns— well, presenting themselves as as victims constantly for all for as victims constantly for all ten att— as victims constantly for all for all varieties— as victims constantly for all for all varieties of reasons . for all varieties of reasons. xnwwaw — for all varieties of reasons. anyway. you've— for all varieties of reasons. anyway, you've been getting in teten— anyway, you've been getting in tewen at— anyway, you've been getting in touch at home— anyway, you've been getting in touch at home on— anyway, you've been getting in touch at home on a big on the big— touch at home on a big on the ttg pess— touch at home on a big on the tttg tess at— touch at home on a big on the big boss at wix— touch at home on a big on the big boss at wix saying that transpnette— big boss at wix saying that transphobic customers not transphobic customers are not were— transphobic customers are not wete tn— transphobic customers are not welcome in their— transphobic customers are not welcome in their stores. richard saws— welcome in their stores. richard saws tne— welcome in their stores. richard saws tne wtx— welcome in their stores. richard says the wix-says- welcome in their stores. richard says the wix says who says the wix ceo says those who ten-t— says the wix ceo says those who tent—ntn — says the wix ceo says those who tent—ntn are- says the wix ceo says those who don't—him are not- don't agree with him are not wete— don't agree with him are not wete tn— don't agree with him are not welcome in his— don't agree with him are not welcome in his stores and are targets.— welcome in his stores and are tttgets. twen— welcome in his stores and are bigots. given that— welcome in his stores and are bigots. given that a bigot is seneene-ts— bigots. given that a bigot is someone is intolerant someone who is intolerant of etners—tnat- someone who is intolerant ofi others—that stance others views, i say that stance mates— others views, i say that stance mates-a— others views, i say that stance makes-a bigot.- others views, i say that stance makes a bigot. very clever, makes him a bigot. very clever, vteter—wtx— makes him a bigot. very clever, victor—wix boss- makes him a bigot. very clever, victor—wix boss is. victor says. if the wix boss is tetttng— victor says. if the wix boss is tetttng ne— victor says. if the wix boss is telling me that— victor says. if the wix boss is telling me that because i don't tntnt— telling me that because i don't think biological— telling me that because i don't think biological men should be attewet— think biological men should be allowed—safe- think biological men should be allowed safe spaces, allowed in women's safe spaces, tn— allowed in women's safe spaces, tn-weteene.— allowed in women's safe spaces, i'm .welcome. _shop. i'm not welcome. in his shop tarr— i'm not welcome. in his shop tatr enewgn.— i'm not welcome. in his shop fair enough. won't go into fair enough. iwon't go into tnat— fair enough. iwon't go into tnat-nnt— fair enough. iwon't go into tnat-nnt tt— fair enough. iwon't go into that-but it is- fair enough. i won't go into that but it is interesting that shop. but it is interesting to that shop. but it is interesting te-tne— that shop. but it is interesting te-tne snare- that shop. but it is interesting to-the share price. that shop. but it is interesting to the share price has to see that the share price has taken— to see that the share price has taken a— to see that the share price has taken a little— to see that the share price has taken a little bit— to see that the share price has taken a little bit of a tumble as we saw with— taken a little bit of a tumble as we saw with bud light . as we saw with bud light. they've— as we saw with bud light. they've certainly done a bit of a-ttgnt— they've certainly done a bit of a-ttgnt wtx— they've certainly done a bit of a-light wix has.- they've certainly done a bit of a light wix has. keith has a bud light wix has. keith has to a bud light wix has. keith has te saw— a bud light wix has. keith has

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you you my you know, i will give you my take that and just so much take on that and just so much more. we'll talking about the more. we'll be talking about the situation with partygate and then has then sue gray. sue gray has re—emerged again. yes, she has. on of sunday on the front of the sunday telegraph turns out everything was kosher. hm. so it's sort was not kosher. hm. so it's sort of a bit of a nothing to see here, nothing see here with here, nothing to see here with the party. all fine. the labor party. it's all fine. it's fine. we can run the it's all fine. we can run the country. i'm not so sure. i'm not so sure. so we'll be looking in to the labour party and find out whether actually are out whether they're actually are they, fit to govern? i they, are they fit to govern? i think deserve a little they, are they fit to govern? i think-deserve a little bit| think they deserve a little bit of think they deserve a little bit et-r— think they deserve a little bit et-r tntnt— think they deserve a little bit of-i think-well] of scrutiny. i think so. well, tnere— of scrutiny. i think so. well, tnere you— of scrutiny. i think so. well, tnere you ge. — of scrutiny. i think so. well, there you go. stay tuned for wanas— there you go. stay tuned for nana's-you've- there you go. stay tuned for nana's you've been nana's show. you've been watettng— nana's show. you've been- watettng—wews watching, listening to gb news swntaw— watching, listening to gb news sunday wttt— watching, listening to gb news sunday with emily carver, sunday with me, emily carver, tnant— sunday with me, emily carver, tnant-nwen- sunday with me, emily carver, thank-much for- sunday with me, emily carver, thank much for joining thank you very much for joining me thank you very much for joining ne tnts— thank you very much for joining me this afternoon.— me this afternoon. and claire tearsatt— me this afternoon. and claire pearsall-stephen- pearsall and stephen pound, pen-t— pearsall and stephen pound, pen-t ge— pearsall and stephen pound, don't go anywhere. nana is eentng— don't go anywhere. nana is eentng ap— don't go anywhere. nana is coming up next.— don't go anywhere. nana is coming up next. but that, coming up next. but before that, tet-s— coming up next. but before that, tets—tne- coming up next. but before that, let's—the weatheri let's take a look at the weather wttt— let's take a look at the weather with jonathan.— let's take a look at the weather with jonathan. _ let's take a look at the weather with jonathan. c“ti”ti let's take a look at the weather with jonathan. “ti”ti with jonathan. hello there. i'm jonathan here your jonathan vautrey here with your latest forecast latest gb news weather forecast provided office it is provided by the met office it is an unsettled end to the weekend for all. thanks to an for many of us all. thanks to an area of low that is area of low pressure that is centred to the west of the centred just to the west of the uk. we do thunderstorm and uk. we do have thunderstorm and rain in force across

rain warnings in force across many there be some many areas. there could be some torrential of rain, torrential downpours of rain, thunderstorms, lightning and hail the coming hail possible over the coming few showers will tend few hours. the showers will tend to merge into this longer band of this evening and of rain through this evening and overnight, northwards of rain through this evening and overniinorthern northwards of rain through this evening and overniinorthern englandiwards of rain through this evening and overniinorthern england intois across northern england into scotland, potentially 40, 60mm of rain falling in just three hours. really, some surface water issues are possible . water issues are possible. turning drier to the south of that, but many areas holding up around 16, 15 c. so still quite around 16, 15 c. so still quite a humid night. a wet start to monday across scotland as this area of rain pushes its way across. still some surface water issues possible on monday morning . dry and brighter start morning. dry and brighter start to the new working week elsewhere. but the sunshine will help those showers to develop as we head into the afternoon. again, the odd rumble of thunder is particularly is possible, particularly perhaps of northern perhaps across areas of northern ireland. little bit more ireland. a little bit more sunshine in between those showers tomorrow, though, compared temperatures compared to sunday. temperatures climbing highs of 22 to 26 c. climbing to highs of 22 to 26 c. as we head into the evening, though, showers will gradually fade their way off, taking a little bit of time across

northern and areas. but northern and western areas. but eventually clear spells developing isolated mist developing some isolated mist and fog patches forming a bit of cloud lingering across the far south—east. that might make it again, a bit of a humid night to come here into the start of tuesday. the potential we tuesday. the potential that we see band of very see again, another band of very heavy pushing way heavy rain pushing its way across areas. there is across southern areas. there is still uncertainty in still some uncertainty in regards to the exact details of that. do keep up to date with that. so do keep up to date with the forecast. low pressure that has though, is has been with us, though, is steadily progressing way steadily progressing its way northwards. going northwards. and that's going to allow of high pressure allow this area of high pressure to in a bit more to build its way in a bit more as we head towards thursday. so as we head towards thursday. so a to come on thursday a drier day to come on thursday and also little bit less and also a little bit less humid. your day by bye .

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