swarming the corridor and said hello, davey. sorry to hear about your mum. we've never had orphans before. you know, i hadnt orphans before. you know, i hadn't considered myself an orphan, but that was not quite the way i'd want teachers to deal with children who lost one or more parents. chair of the treasury— or more parents. chair of the treasury select— “w; ”c; chair of the treasury select committee, conservative _ treasury select committee, conservative mp harriet baldwin. and .-m— conservative mp harriet baldwin. and rm one— conservative mp harriet baldwin. and rm of— conservative mp harriet baldwin. and i'm one of those people who, if someone— and i'm one of those people who, if says— and i'm one of those people who, if someone says no— and i'm one of those people who, if someone says no to me, you know,— if someone says no to me, you know-realty— if someone says no to me, you know,-really makes- if someone says no to me, you know, really makes me want know, that really makes me want to 90— know, that really makes me want to go for— know, that really makes me want to go for n.— know, that really makes me want to go for it. south— know, that really makes me want to go for it. south yorkshire mayor— to go for it. south yorkshire mayor ouver— to go for it. south yorkshire mayor oliver coppard. i don't think— mayor oliver coppard. i don't ennk ony— mayor oliver coppard. i don't think any mayor— mayor oliver coppard. i don't think any mayor in the country nonto— think any mayor in the country would soy— think any mayor in the country would say that— think any mayor in the country would say that they've got the powere— would say that they've got the poee rne — would say that they've got the powers, the control, the money rnor— powers, the control, the money no new— powers, the control, the money that they would _ powers, the control, the money that they would want and all rnor— that they would want and all that straight— that they would want and all that straight after you. news . that straight after you. news. rr-e— that straight after you. news. no one — that straight after you. news. it's 6:00. |'m_ that straight after you. news. it's 6:00. i'm ray- that straight after you. news.

it's 6:00. 1? cc it's 6:00. i'm ray addison, gloria meats is coming straight up. but first, the latest headunes up. but first, the latest headlines and our top story, the met police says it's aware of new footage showing conservative staff partying during lockdown and joking about covid restrictions and is considering it . michael gove, the levelling it. michael gove, the levelling up secretary, has apologised, describing the behaviour as unacceptable in the footage obtained by the mirror, tory staff can be seen ignoring social distancing rules imposed by the government at the height of the pandemic. two of the 24 people at the christmas party were later named in boris johnson's resignation honours list. mr gove told us disciplinary action has already been taken . the reason why why been taken. the reason why why rnoee— been taken. the reason why why rnoee erepe— been taken. the reason why why those steps were— been taken. the reason why why those steps were taken- " " the reason why why those steps were taken was to rewoee— those steps were taken was to rewoee rne— those steps were taken was to reduce the spread— those steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the disease in order— reduce the spread of the disease in order ro— reduce the spread of the disease in order to make— reduce the spread of the disease in order to make sure that the pressures on the— in order to make sure that the pressures on the nhs were nonogeopre— pressures on the nhs were nonopeopre ,— pressures on the nhs were manageable , in order to make manageable, in order to make rnor— manageable, in order to make we we— manageable, in order to make sure that we could treat people wno— sure that we could treat people wno — sure that we could treat people wno wen— sure that we could treat people who were very ill.— sure that we could treat people who were very ill. so again, the oerrone— who were very ill. so again, the oerrone nere— who were very ill. so again, the actions here are— who were very ill. so again, the actions here are deeply distressing— actions here are deeply distressing and i can only

oporopree— distressing and i can only oporopree ro— distressing and i can only apologise to people that individuals— apologise to people that individuals behaved in this way. my individuals behaved in this way. my understanding is that there was an investigation into the party— was an investigation into the pony wnen— was an investigation into the pony wnen rne— was an investigation into the party when the photograph emergen— party when the photograph emerged and— party when the photograph emerged and people were disciplined— emerged and people were disciplined ._ emerged and people were disciplined . well, mps will disciplined. well, mps will renne— disciplined. well, mps will nepore onw— disciplined. well, mps will debate any possible punishment for debate any possible punishment ror none— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson tomorrow after he for boris johnson tomorrow after ne woe— for boris johnson tomorrow after ne round— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to have misled nornonenr— he was found to have misled parliament over— he was found to have misled parliament over partygate. the rrrwregee— parliament over partygate. the privileges committee- parliament over partygate. the privileges committee recommended that the former prime minister should face a 90 day suspension on had he not already resigned in advance of that judgement. now it's understood that his supporters are being encouraged to abstain . but former brexit to abstain. but former brexit secretary david davis told camilla tominey he will support the committee and its findings are clear . one of the the committee and its findings are clear. one of the things opowr— are clear. one of the things about parliament- 3”r:i; f one of the things about parliament is ”r3:3; f one of the things about parliament is it's the newer— about parliament is it's the highest court— about parliament is it's the highest court in— about parliament is it's the highest court in the land that eoreree— highest court in the land that creates a problem when you're conne— creates a problem when you're coming privileges. what's coming to privileges. what's rnor— coming to privileges. what's that problem?— coming to privileges. what's that problem? like coming to privileges. what's that problem?-like a that problem? it's like having a wrap— that problem? it's like having a wrap-winge— that problem? it's like having a nominee .— that problem? it's like having a trial village . everybody trial in a village. everybody wnowe— trial in a village. everybody knows everybody. nobody is enrrrew— knows everybody. nobody is entirely unbiased . r:r:3r entirely unbiased. how do they know— entirely unbiased. how do they know his own mind at the time? they don't have to. they know

what they don't have to. they know we we— they don't have to. they know what they know— they don't have to. they know what they know is— they don't have to. they know what they know is what- “can r:r:3r3 c they know what they know is what he knows. if what they know is what he knows. n wow— what they know is what he knows. n you n— what they know is what he knows. rr you n wow— what they know is what he knows. rr you n you go— what they know is what he knows. rr you n you go ro— what they know is what he knows. if you if you go to a— what they know is what he knows. if you if you go to a party, you know,— if you if you go to a party, you know, n— if you if you go to a party, you know, n woe— if you if you go to a party, you know, it was a— if you if you go to a party, you know, it was a party you don't need— know, it was a party you don't need on— know, it was a party you don't need an advisor— know, it was a party you don't need an advisor to tell you. wroorn— need an advisor to tell you. nicola sturgeon— need an advisor to tell you. nicola sturgeon continues to maintain her innocence after being questioned by police in investigating snp finances last weekend. scotland's former first minister spoke as she returned home for the first time since being arrested and released without charge . you know, i without charge. you know, i can't without charge. you know, i eon-r ew— without charge. you know, i eon-r eow very— without charge. you know, i can't say very much- rts�*r3trgrt; you know, i can't say very much so what t ”gt; you know, i can't say very much so what i wru— can't say very much so what i win ew— can't say very much so what i win eow re— can't say very much so what i will say is reiterate the statement— will say is reiterate the statement issued last sunday am eenorn— statement issued last sunday am eenorn rnor— statement issued last sunday am certain that have— statement issued last sunday am certain that have done nothing wrong— certain that have done nothing wrong one— certain that have done nothing wrong and intend— certain that have done nothing wrong and intend to be back in norrronenr— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in the— wrong and intend to be back in parliament in the early part of the parliament in the early part of we ween. — parliament in the early part of we ween. ru— parliament in the early part of the week. i'll make myself overrepre— the week. i'll make myself available for— the week. i'll make myself available for questions then. opwowew— available for questions then. obviously within the constraints rnor— obviously within the constraints we r— obviously within the constraints we r on — obviously within the constraints that i am referring to right now . ror— that i am referring to right now . ror no— that i am referring to right now . ror one— that i am referring to right now . for now and tend— that i am referring to right now . for now and tend to go home, coron— . for now and tend to go home, eoren up— . for now and tend to go home, eoren wp wrrn— . for now and tend to go home, catch up with some— . for now and tend to go home, catch up with some family . see, catch up with some family. see, i catch up with some family. see, r know— catch up with some family. see, r know r-n— catch up with some family. see, r know r-n o— catch up with some family. see, i know i'm a public— catch up with some family. see, i know i'm a public figure. keeepr— i know i'm a public figure. keeepr wnor— i know i'm a public figure. accept what comes with that. but i'm accept what comes with that. but r-n neo— accept what comes with that. but r-n okeo o— accept what comes with that. but i'm also a human— accept what comes with that. but i'm also a human being. that's enrrrreo— i'm also a human being. that's enrrrken ro— i'm also a human being. that's enrrrken re p— i'm also a human being. that's entitled to a bit— i'm also a human being. that's entitled to a bit of privacy on tv , online, on dab+ radio and on

tv, online, on dab+ radio and on tune in to this is gb news. now let's get straight back- tune in to this is gb news. now let's get straight back to- let's get straight back to mono— let's get straight back to gloria meets— let's get straight back to gloria meets .- gloria meets. at ed davey, keeper— gloria meets. at ed davey, keeper of— gloria meets. at ed davey, leader of the _ gloria meets. at ed davey, leader of the liberal democrats . we— leader of the liberal democrats . rr-e wnen— leader of the liberal democrats . rr-e when r— leader of the liberal democrats . it's when i started- . it's when i started researching your life story, i found what has happened to you throughout your life . really throughout your life. really quite, quite stunning. your father , john, died when you were father, john, died when you were four, and your mum , nina, died four, and your mum, nina, died 11 years later . that four, and your mum, nina, died 11 years later. that is one hell of a start in life. how does a child deal with that? well, it's funny. when i was four, i knew eonernrng— funny. when i was four, i knew something terrible— ”3 when i was four, i knew something terrible had happened because— something terrible had happened peeowee r— something terrible had happened because i could— something terrible had happened because i could hear my mother eopprng— because i could hear my mother eopprng one,— because i could hear my mother sobbing and, you— because i could hear my mother sobbing and, you know, all the eonrnge— sobbing and, you know, all the eonrnge one— sobbing and, you know, all the comings and goings. but when wow-re— comings and goings. but when wow-re rnor— comings and goings. but when you're that young, you sort of row— you're that young, you sort of row wrrn— you're that young, you sort of row win in— you're that young, you sort of roll with it. you're— you're that young, you sort of roll with it. you're worried opowr— roll with it. you're worried opowr wow— roll with it. you're worried about your mum, but you sort of

go wrrn— about your mum, but you sort of go wrrn n— about your mum, but you sort of go wrrn n wnen— about your mum, but you sort of go with it when she— about your mum, but you sort of go with it when she became ill, opwowew— go with it when she became ill, opwowew ene— go with it when she became ill, obviously she was— go with it when she became ill, obviously she was the light of my obviously she was the light of no kne— obviously she was the light of my me one— obviously she was the light of my life and everything revolves around— my life and everything revolves ground-nun— my life and everything revolves ground-nun .— my life and everything revolves around mum . initially she had around my mum. initially she had around my mum. initially she had o noereeronw— around my mum. initially she had a mastectomy ami— around my mum. initially she had a mastectomy ami she originally had a mastectomy ami she originally nee preoer— a mastectomy ami she originally had breast cancer— a mastectomy ami she originally had breast cancer and then it wenr— had breast cancer and then it wenr ro— had breast cancer and then it wenr ro ner— had breast cancer and then it went to her bones and that's wnen— went to her bones and that's wnen ene— went to her bones and that's when she became terminally ill one— when she became terminally ill and ene— when she became terminally ill and she became— when she became terminally ill and she became more or less peonooen— and she became more or less bedridden and— and she became more or less bedridden and wheelchair from wnen— bedridden and wheelchair from wnen r— bedridden and wheelchair from wnen r wee— bedridden and wheelchair from when i was about— bedridden and wheelchair from when i was about 12. and then when i was about i2. and then ene— when i was about i2. and then ene oreg— when i was about i2. and then she died when— when i was about i2. and then she died when i— when i was about 12. and then she died when i was 15. and and we cope— she died when i was 15. and and we eope wrrn— she died when i was 15. and and we eope wrrn n— she died when i was 15. and and we cope with it mainly because of we cope with it mainly because or we— we cope with it mainly because or we familvr_ we cope with it mainly because of the family, like— we cope with it mainly because of the family, like most people do of the family, like most people no .— of the family, like most people no . so— of the family, like most people no . so ner— of the family, like most people do . so her mum— of the family, like most people do . so her mum and dad, my nan do. so her mum and dad, my nan eno— do. so her mum and dad, my nan ene grenoeo— do. so her mum and dad, my nan and grandad were— do. so her mum and dad, my nan and grandad were there all the one — and grandad were there all the one on,— and grandad were there all the one we we— and grandad were there all the time. um, we got— and grandad were there all the time. um, we got great support from— time. um, we got great support from we— time. um, we got great support from the neighbours , a from the neighbours, a penrewrer— from the neighbours, a particular across from the neighbours, a- particular- across the particular family across the nee,— particular family across the road,-malhotras- particular family across the road, malhotras were road, the malhotras were renreerre— road, the malhotras were fantastic, brilliant fantastic, made brilliant curries and— fantastic, made brilliant curries and so- fantastic, made brilliant curries and so it was that sort of curries and so it was that sort or eonnwnrw— curries and so it was that sort of community and— curries and so it was that sort of community and family that got us of community and family that got we rnrowgn— of community and family that got us through really. _ of community and family that got us through really. ' r: of community and family that got us through really. 'r: c of community and family that got us through really. '3r: 0 rrtg us through really. and it's very nerd— us through really. and it's very hard to imagine. but you had to administer morphine seen to your mum when she was terminally ill . you were a young carer? yep is there anything that you learnt about being a young carer which should inform public policy today? do you think if this had have been in place, maybe this

could have helped me? i didn't get much support , but you know, get much support, but you know, i had friends , but it was mainly i had friends, but it was mainly me and my brother who were supporting each other. and frankly, my mother,- supporting each other. and frankly, my mother, i- frankly, my mother, i mean, my norner— frankly, my mother, i mean, my norner-nw— frankly, my mother, i mean, my mother my support. mother was my major support. i sit mother was my major support. i err-ner— mother was my major support. i errlner pee,— mother was my major support. i sit-her bed, on— mother was my major support. i sit-her bed, on her- mother was my major support. i sit her bed, on her bed and sit on her bed, on her bed and rekk— sit on her bed, on her bed and rekk ro— sit on her bed, on her bed and rekk ro ner— sit on her bed, on her bed and talk to her for— sit on her bed, on her bed and talk to her for hours. and i eon-r— talk to her for hours. and i eon-r rnrnk— talk to her for hours. and i don't think they'd actually ekkow— don't think they'd actually ekkow rooew— don't think they'd actually allow today what we what allow today what what we what neppeneo— allow today what what we what neppenee peek— allow today what what we what happened back then? i we happened back then? i mean, we had happened back then? i mean, we hag-p..— happened back then? i mean, we hag-pg. rnre— happened back then? i mean, we neo-ien rnre pkg- had a bell jar, this big of norpnrne— had a bell jar, this big of morphine kitchen and had a bell jar, this big of- morphine-kitchen and i'd morphine in the kitchen and i'd go eno— morphine in the kitchen and i'd go ene per— morphine in the kitchen and i'd go ene per-n— morphine in the kitchen and i'd go and put-it out- morphine in the kitchen and i'd go and put it out and then go and put put it out and then go and put put it out and then go eno— go and put put it out and then go ene gwe— go and put put it out and then go ene gwe n— go and put put it out and then go and give it to— go and put put it out and then go and give it to her. i had to put— go and give it to her. i had to per ereerne— go and give it to her. i had to put electric pads— go and give it to her. i had to put electric pads on her in order— put electric pads on her in order for— put electric pads on her in order for her— put electric pads on her in order for her to— put electric pads on her in order for her to give herself ekeerne— order for her to give herself electric shocks,— order for her to give herself electric shocks, to take away we— electric shocks, to take away rne-peeewee— electric shocks, to take away the because bone cancer is the pain because bone cancer is ekrreorornenw— the pain because bone cancer is extraordinarily painful . so extraordinarily painful. so i rnrnk— extraordinarily painful. so i thinklwould_ extraordinarily painful. so i think would have helped to think i would have helped to newe— think i would have helped to newe e— think i would have helped to have a little— think i would have helped to have a little bit— think i would have helped to have a little bit more counselling- have a little bit more counselling and support. i've eon— counselling and support. i've eon or— counselling and support. i've eon or nope— counselling and support. i've sort of hope we— counselling and support. i've sort of hope we get be better rnen— sort of hope we get be better rnen we— sort of hope we get be better rnen we ee— sort of hope we get be better than we are back— sort of hope we get be better than we are back then because it weer.— than we are back then because it 798. do— than we are back then because it 798. no wow— than we are back then because it was 7981. do you think you said it'd was 7981. do you think you said we re— was 7981. do you think you said we be perrer— was 7981. do you think you said it'd be better if— was 7981. do you think you said it'd be better if you'd had some eowneerkrng— it'd be better if you'd had some counselling or— it'd be better if you'd had some counselling or support ? �*th:r it'd be better if you'd had some counselling or support ? th:r counselling or support? do you rnrnk— counselling or support? do you rnrnk wow— counselling or support? do you rnrnk you were— counselling or support? do you think you were depressed? no i don't think i was depressed. i was upset, but it was quite a eeo— was upset, but it was quite a eeo rime,— was upset, but it was quite a eeo pme, no— was upset, but it was quite a sad time, no doubt about that. and— sad time, no doubt about that. one er— sad time, no doubt about that. and at school— sad time, no doubt about that. and at school ,_ sad time, no doubt about that. and at school , you know, you're and at school, you know, you're going— and at school, you know, you're gorng rnrowgn— and at school, you know, you're

going through that sort of pwpenw— going through that sort of pwpenw eno— going through that sort of puberty and you're growing up eno— puberty and you're growing up ene wow-re— puberty and you're growing up and you're with— puberty and you're growing up and you're with mates and they eowkon-r— and you're with mates and they couldn't understand what was going— couldn't understand what was gorng on— couldn't understand what was gorng on er. — couldn't understand what was gorng on er. kno— couldn't understand what was going on at. and so i'd have rnornenre— going on at. and so i'd have moments where— going on at. and so i'd have moments where i- going on at. and so i'd have moments where i felt a bit genome,— moments where i felt a bit oereeneo, e— moments where i felt a bit detached, a bit— moments where i felt a bit detached, a bit isolated . and i detached, a bit isolated. and i rnrnk— detached, a bit isolated. and i rnrnk rner— detached, a bit isolated. and i think that is— detached, a bit isolated. and i think that is one— detached, a bit isolated. and i think that is one thing that young— think that is one thing that young eerere— think that is one thing that young carers feel in education. t hey— young carers feel in education. new no— young carers feel in education. they go reek— young carers feel in education. they go reek e— young carers feel in education. they do feel a bit— young carers feel in education. they do feel a bit isolated and ronew— they do feel a bit isolated and lonely sometimes— they do feel a bit isolated and lonely sometimes because people errone— lonely sometimes because people erwono rnen— lonely sometimes because people around them don't— lonely sometimes because people around them don't get it and onen— around them don't get it and orren rnew-re— around them don't get it and often they're not— around them don't get it and often they're not identified . often they're not identified. kno— often they're not identified. ann wnen— often they're not identified. ann wnen r— often they're not identified. and when i wasn't identified by my and when i wasn't identified by no eenook— and when i wasn't identified by my eenook er— and when i wasn't identified by my school at all,— and when i wasn't identified by my school at all, they took ages to my school at all, they took ages ro reekree— my school at all, they took ages to realise that— my school at all, they took ages to realise that something was going— to realise that something was gorng on— to realise that something was gorng o-wee- to realise that something was going on were pretty going on and they were pretty pkoonrn— going on and they were pretty bloomin hopeless be honest. going on and they were pretty bloomlovelyeless be honest. going on and they were pretty bloomlovely teachers)e honest. going on and they were pretty bloomlovely teachers who rnest. going on and they were pretty bloomlovely teachers who were some lovely teachers who were rnenow— some lovely teachers who were rnenow eno— some lovely teachers who were friendly and wanted to help . but friendly and wanted to help. but you know,— friendly and wanted to help. but you know, wnen— friendly and wanted to help. but you know, when my mum died , the you know, when my mum died, the need— you know, when my mum died, the need reeener— you know, when my mum died, the head teacher saw— you know, when my mum died, the head teacher saw me— you know, when my mum died, the head teacher saw me in the corridor— head teacher saw me in the corridor and— head teacher saw me in the corridor and said- head teacher saw me in the corridor and said hello davey, eorw— corridor and said hello davey, eorw ro— corridor and said hello davey, sorry ro neer— corridor and said hello davey, sorry to hear about your mum. we-we— sorry to hear about your mum. we've never had— sorry to hear about your mum. we've never had orphans before, you know,— we've never had orphans before, you know, r— we've never had orphans before, you know, i hadn't— we've never had orphans before, you know, i hadn't considered nween— you know, i hadn't considered nweekr en— you know, i hadn't considered myself an orphan, but . you know, i hadn't considered myself an orphan, but. but you know, i hadn't considered myself an orphan, but . but that myself an orphan, but. but that nor— myself an orphan, but. but that nor gene— myself an orphan, but. but that was not quite the— myself an orphan, but. but that was not quite the way i'd want reeenere— was not quite the way i'd want reeenere ro— was not quite the way i'd want teachers to deal— was not quite the way i'd want teachers to deal with children wo-wne— teachers to deal with children wowne roer— teachers to deal with children who've lost one— teachers to deal with children who've lost one or more parents. kno— who've lost one or more parents. ann r— who've lost one or more parents. ann r wink,— who've lost one or more parents. ann r pint, wow— who've lost one or more parents. and i think, you know, you ask epowr— and i think, you know, you ask epowr prone— and i think, you know, you ask about public policy. i think reeenere— about public policy. i think teachers and— about public policy. i think teachers and people in schools need— teachers and people in schools neeo ro— teachers and people in schools neeo ro pe— teachers and people in schools

need to be trained— teachers and people in schools need to be trained to help young carers and people— need to be trained to help young carers and people who suffer bereavement.— carers and people who suffer bereavement. and i'd say the bereavement— bereavement. and i'd say the bereavement bit— bereavement. and i'd say the bereavement bit is the one where is bereavement bit is the one where re ne— bereavement bit is the one where is me more , more.— bereavement bit is the one where is me more , more. i'm passionate is me more, more. i'm passionate epowr— is me more, more. i'm passionate epowr nekprng— is me more, more. i'm passionate about helping young carers, but entren— about helping young carers, but entroren eno— about helping young carers, but children and young people who koee— children and young people who koee rnerr— children and young people who lose their parents. i think the bereavement— lose their parents. i think the bereavement support isn't enwwnere— bereavement support isn't anywhere near— bereavement support isn't anywhere near as good as it enorm— anywhere near as good as it enowko pe. — anywhere near as good as it should be. so— anywhere near as good as it should be. so are- anywhere near as good as it should be. 3trt; anywhere near as good as it should be. 3“ should be. so are you married? you have two children now. john and ellie. john's now 15 years old. he can't eat, walk or talk on adas. i read . how do you deal on adas. i read. how do you deal with john's condition as a family ? well, first of all, he family? well, first of all, he nee— family? well, first of all, he nee e— family? well, first of all, he has a condition— 9? well, first of all, he has a condition which is undiagnosed— has a condition which is undiagnosed and it's a brain eonorrron— undiagnosed and it's a brain condition, neurological condition,— condition, neurological condition, and it means, as you eew— condition, and it means, as you say, he— condition, and it means, as you eew ne een-r— condition, and it means, as you say, he can't walk— condition, and it means, as you say, he can't walk or talk. we iner— say, he can't walk or talk. we twer newe— say, he can't walk or talk. we twee newe ro— say, he can't walk or talk. we just have to provide that care for nrn. — just have to provide that care for nrn. so— just have to provide that care for nrn. so my— just have to provide that care for him. so my days normally eren— for him. so my days normally eren errone— for him. so my days normally start around about 6:00 when i neer— start around about 6:00 when i neer nrn — start around about 6:00 when i can hear him calling out for daddy— can hear him calling out for daddy because— can hear him calling out for daddy because he he said, daddy, the daddy because he he said, daddy, rne wer— daddy because he he said, daddy, we we rrne— daddy because he he said, daddy, the first time when— daddy because he he said, daddy, the first time when he when he was nine, which— the first time when he when he was nine, which was a major day for me— was nine, which was a major day for so— was nine, which was a major day for so ne— was nine, which was a major day for so ne eewe— was nine, which was a major day for me. so he says daddy quite a ton— for me. so he says daddy quite a on and— for me. so he says daddy quite a top one end— for me. so he says daddy quite a lot. and and so— for me. so he says daddy quite a lot. and and so i— for me. so he says daddy quite a lot. and and so i go— for me. so he says daddy quite a lot. and and so i go into him

eno— lot. and and so i go into him ene ger— lot. and and so i go into him ene ger nin— lot. and and so i go into him ene ger nrn up.— lot. and and so i go into him and get him up. he can't get up nrneekr. — and get him up. he can't get up nrneekr. ne— and get him up. he can't get up himself. he can't— and get him up. he can't get up himself. he can't go to toilet nrneekr. — himself. he can't go to toilet nrneekr. ne— himself. he can't go to toilet himself. he has— himself. he can't go to toilet himself. he has a— himself. he can't go to toilet himself. he has a nap every nigh.— himself. he has a nap every nrgnr. so— himself. he has a nap every nrgnr. so nw— himself. he has a nap every night. so my first job and mine is night. so my first job and mine re wen— night. so my first job and mine re very pereonek— night. so my first job and mine is very personal care, so i sort nin— is very personal care, so i sort nrn oer.— is very personal care, so i sort nrn owr- r— is very personal care, so i sort him out. i take— is very personal care, so i sort him out. i take him for a shower , him out. i take him for a shower i , him out. i take him for a shower , r ekeen— him out. i take him for a shower , r ekeen nin— him out. i take him for a shower , i clean him, and— him out. i take him for a shower , i clean him, and then we neeeeeg— , i clean him, and then we neeeeeg nin— , i clean him, and then we massage him every morning peeewee— massage him every morning peeewee ne— massage him every morning because his condition , he'd be because his condition, he'd be gone— because his condition, he'd be gone entr— because his condition, he'd be quite stiff. so— because his condition, he'd be quite stiff. so we— because his condition, he'd be quite stiff. so we massage him. rnen— quite stiff. so we massage him. rnen we— quite stiff. so we massage him. then we dress— quite stiff. so we massage him. then we dress him— quite stiff. so we massage him. then we dress him and bring him down.— then we dress him and bring him down. and— then we dress him and bring him down. one nw— then we dress him and bring him down. and my wife— then we dress him and bring him down. and my wife and i do that. we.— down. and my wife and i do that. we. we— down. and my wife and i do that. we. we nw— down. and my wife and i do that. we. we no ro— down. and my wife and i do that. we. we rrw ro ger— down. and my wife and i do that. we. we try to get carer support. were— we. we try to get carer support. we're fortunate— we. we try to get carer support. we're fortunate to— we. we try to get carer support. we're fortunate to have a very ewpponrwe— we're fortunate to have a very supportive family— we're fortunate to have a very supportive family who helps us win— supportive family who helps us win rner. — supportive family who helps us with that. many— supportive family who helps us with that. many families don't get with that. many families don't ger-eno— with that. many families don't ger-eno one— with that. many families don't get-and one of- with that. many families don't get and one of the things get that and one of the things rnee— get that and one of the things wee-know,— get that and one of the things that,-know, going- get that and one of the things that, know, going to the that, you know, going to the pounce— that, you know, going to the pokrrree r— that, you know, going to the politics, i think— that, you know, going to the politics, i think we need to rekk— politics, i think we need to rekk epowr— politics, i think we need to talk about carers far more. we ewpponrng— talk about carers far more. we supporting family carers, not iner— supporting family carers, not we rookrng— supporting family carers, not just looking after disabled entrepren— just looking after disabled children, but— just looking after disabled children, but looking after a nwepeno— children, but looking after a nwepeno or— children, but looking after a husband or wife— children, but looking after a husband or wife who's got alzheimer's— husband or wife who's got alzheimer's or— husband or wife who's got alzheimer's or a you know, someone who's— alzheimer's or a you know, someone who's terminally ill. vow— someone who's terminally ill. you need— someone who's terminally ill. you need we— someone who's terminally ill. you need we -to - someone who's terminally ill. you need we to support you need we need to support carers-more . i— you need we need to support carers more . i don't ask it carers far more. i don't ask it for— carers far more. i don't ask it for nweekr— carers far more. i don't ask it for nweekr n— carers far more. i don't ask it for myself if you— carers far more. i don't ask it for myself if you know we can cope— for myself if you know we can cope .— for myself if you know we can cope . n— for myself if you know we can cope . rr wow— for myself if you know we can cope . if you have— for myself if you know we can cope . if you have to be very, cope. if you have to be very, wen— cope. if you have to be very, werw wekk— cope. if you have to be very, very well organised, extremely wekk— very well organised, extremely well organised— very well organised, extremely well organised in— very well organised, extremely well organised in your time, you wen— well organised in your time, you werw rrne— well organised in your time, you can very time sensitive and have

to can very time sensitive and have ro pren— can very time sensitive and have ro pken p..— can very time sensitive and have ro pren rn order— can very time sensitive and have to plan in order to— can very time sensitive and have to plan in order to get get by end— to plan in order to get get by end ger— to plan in order to get get by end ger rnrnge— to plan in order to get get by and get things done . '3r: and get things done. and last year— and get things done. and last weer wow— and get things done. and last weer wow .— and get things done. and last weer wow . weer— and get things done. and last year you , your wife emily went year you, your wife emily went pubuc year you, your wife emily went public with her diagnosis of multiple sclerosis . how is she? multiple sclerosis. how is she? well she's fantastic. her condition . she's had- rt her condition . she's had it her condition . she's had it for condition. she's had it for gene— condition. she's had it for gene e— condition. she's had it for gene e tong— condition. she's had it for quite a long time. the diagnosis e tong— quite a long time. the diagnosis e rong rrne— quite a long time. the diagnosis was a long time ago, but it was en— was a long time ago, but it was werw greener. — was a long time ago, but it was very gradual. and— was a long time ago, but it was very gradual. and it's something eekkeo— very gradual. and it's something called remitting— very gradual. and it's something called remitting ms where you can can prove a— called remitting ms where you can can prove a bit. but she was reekkw— can can prove a bit. but she was reerkw nir— can can prove a bit. but she was reerrw nrr kw— can can prove a bit. but she was really hit by lockdown. lots of peopke— really hit by lockdown. lots of peopre wrrn— really hit by lockdown. lots of people with different disabilities. ms but other other eonorrrone— disabilities. ms but other other conditions were— disabilities. ms but other other conditions were really hit by roekoown.— conditions were really hit by lockdown. so _ conditions were really hit by lockdown. so for— conditions were really hit by lockdown. so for emily, she eowkon-r— lockdown. so for emily, she content go— lockdown. so for emily, she couldn't do some of the exercise ene— couldn't do some of the exercise ene ween— couldn't do some of the exercise ene ween ro— couldn't do some of the exercise she used to do,— couldn't do some of the exercise she used to do, like— couldn't do some of the exercise she used to do, like swimming eno— she used to do, like swimming ene ner— she used to do, like swimming and her ability— she used to do, like swimming and her ability declined quite a bit. and her ability declined quite a on. and— and her ability declined quite a on. one eo— and her ability declined quite a bit. and so she— and her ability declined quite a bit. and so she decided she wenreo— bit. and so she decided she wenreo ro— bit. and so she decided she wenreo ro go— bit. and so she decided she wanted to go public because it peeerne— wanted to go public because it became-obvious— wanted to go public because it became obvious because she became so obvious because she wekke— became so obvious because she wekke wrrn— became so obvious because she walks with - now - became so obvious because she walks with now she wants walks with sticks. now she wants to walks with sticks. now she wants ro-epowr— walks with sticks. now she wants ro-epowr n.— walks with sticks. now she wants to-about it. and— walks with sticks. now she wants to-about it. and so- walks with sticks. now she wants to about it. and so we did. to talk about it. and so we did. and— to talk about it. and so we did. one we— to talk about it. and so we did. and that creates— to talk about it. and so we did. and that creates challenges. but ene-e— and that creates challenges. but ene-elreek— and that creates challenges. but she'slreal fighter,— and that creates challenges. but she's real fighter, so , you she's a real fighter, so, you know,— she's a real fighter, so, you know, weren— she's a real fighter, so, you know, watch your space. you know,— know, watch your space. you know, ene-kr— know, watch your space. you know, she'll be— know, watch your space. you know, she'll be running the nerernon— know, she'll be running the marathon-not- know, she'll be running the marathon not careful. marathon if we're not careful. women— marathon if we're not careful. wonen wrrn— marathon if we're not careful. women with in— marathon if we're not careful. women with in full time work were— women with in full time work rnere ee— women with in full time work there are often— women with in full time work there are often do you

there are often asked, do you reek— there are often asked, do you feel-because _ there are often asked, do you feel because you've got feel guilt because you've got wow— feel guilt because you've got wowr renrkw— feel guilt because you've got your family and— feel guilt because you've got your family and you have this nrgn—rr- high pressure job, but it enowkon-r— high pressure job, but it shouldn't just be high pressure job, but it- shouldn't-just be women shouldn't actually just be women wno— shouldn't actually just be women wno-eekeo— shouldn't actually just be women who asked question. who are asked that question. so i'd who are asked that question. so to eke— who are asked that question. so to krke ro— who are asked that question. so to krke ro eek— who are asked that question. so i'd like to ask you,— who are asked that question. so i'd like to ask you, do- who are asked that question. so i'd like to ask you, do you- who are asked that question. so i'd like to ask you, do you feel guilty ? of course i do. my guilty? of course i do. my rnrnkrng— guilty? of course i do. my thinking about— g tear? of course i do. my thinking about them most of the rrne— thinking about them most of the fine owing— thinking about them most of the time during the— thinking about them most of the time during the day. bring my wne.— time during the day. bring my wife. obviously— time during the day. bring my wife. obviously i've got to make nw— wife. obviously i've got to make sure my wonderful— wife. obviously i've got to make sure my wonderful daughter gets the sure my wonderful daughter gets rne rrne— sure my wonderful daughter gets rne rrne eno— sure my wonderful daughter gets the time and care— sure my wonderful daughter gets the time and care and support we— the time and care and support we ene— the time and care and support that she needs. _ the time and care and support that she needs. i— the time and care and support that she needs. i am fortunate peeewee— that she needs. i am fortunate peeewee r— that she needs. i am fortunate because i live— that she needs. i am fortunate because i live in— that she needs. i am fortunate because i live in london, right? so because i live in london, right? so r— because i live in london, right? so r go— because i live in london, right? so r go peek— because i live in london, right? so r go peek ro— because i live in london, right? so i go back to my— because i live in london, right? so i go back to my house every day— so i go back to my house every new eno— so i go back to my house every new ene r— so i go back to my house every new ene r en— so i go back to my house every day and i am very— so i go back to my house every day and i am very much part of the day and i am very much part of we renrkw— day and i am very much part of we renrkw p..— day and i am very much part of the family in the— day and i am very much part of the family in the mornings and i try the family in the mornings and i rrw ro— the family in the mornings and i rrw ro ger— the family in the mornings and i rrw ro ger peek— the family in the mornings and i try to get back in— the family in the mornings and i try to get back in the evenings wenewern r— try to get back in the evenings whenever i can— try to get back in the evenings whenever i can and we organise my whenever i can and we organise nw grew— whenever i can and we organise nw ererw eo— whenever i can and we organise nw ererw eo r— whenever i can and we organise nw ererw eo r cen— whenever i can and we organise my diary so i can be as present as my diary so i can be as present ee r— my diary so i can be as present ee r wenr— my diary so i can be as present ee r wenr ro— my diary so i can be as present as i want to be,— my diary so i can be as present as i want to be, which is as neon— as i want to be, which is as neon ee— as i want to be, which is as much as possible being an mp, peng— much as possible being an mp, perng e— much as possible being an mp, being a leader— much as possible being an mp, being a leader of— much as possible being an mp, being a leader of a political partw— being a leader of a political partyr you— being a leader of a political partyr you know— being a leader of a political party, you know, you , you, party, you know, you, you, wow-re— party, you know, you, you, wow-reow-rew— party, you know, you, you, you're, you're torn in different anemone.— you're, you're torn in different. directions._because directions. fortunately, because rnrkw—nereekr- directions. fortunately, because rnrkw—nereen i emily is in politics herself, ne-e— emily is in politics herself, he's-councillor. - emily is in politics herself, he's councillor. she he's a local councillor. she erooo— he's a local councillor. she stood parliament four times stood for parliament four times eno— stood for parliament four times ene—kwekw- stood for parliament four times ene—kwekw ro- stood for parliament four times ene—kwekw ro geri and for she wasn't lucky to get ekeereo, — and for she wasn't lucky to get ekeereo, per— and for she wasn't lucky to get elected, but she's— and for she wasn't lucky to get elected, but she's now plays a rote— elected, but she's now plays a massive role on— elected, but she's now plays a massive role on the local corner.— massive role on the local council. she _ massive role on the local council. she she gets what i'm

rrwrng— council. she she gets what i'm rrwrng ro— council. she she gets what i'm rrwrng o no.— council. she she gets what i'm rrwrng o go. we— council. she she gets what i'm trying to do. it's a— council. she she gets what i'm trying to do. it's a shared endeavour and- trying to do. it's a shared endeavour and so we work very ekoeekw— endeavour and so we work very closely together.— endeavour and so we work very closely together. _ endeavour and so we work very closely together. e closely together. it's just one hell of a story because of the seniority of your position, you are the leader of the liberal democrats. i just want to do some bit of politics with you. so you were cabinet minister so you were a cabinet minister in that last cameron—clegg coalition government. wasn't that enough to put you off coalition for good? well, the thing coalition for good? well, the rnrng ee— coalition for good? well, the rnrng ,— coalition for good? well, the rnrng , rr-e— e :rt:r3 e:?’ well, the thing was , it's interesting the thing was, it's interesting the ownenree— thing was, it's interesting the dynamics because a lot of people own-r— dynamics because a lot of people own-r eee— dynamics because a lot of people didn't see what— dynamics because a lot of people didn't see what people like me oorng. — didn't see what people like me oorng. r— didn't see what people like me were doing. i was— didn't see what people like me were doing. i was fighting the ronee— were doing. i was fighting the ronee ewerw— were doing. i was fighting the tories every day.— were doing. i was fighting the tories every day. i mean, i rowgnr— tories every day. i mean, i rowgnr rne— tories every day. i mean, i fought the tories all my life. vow— fought the tories all my life. you know,— fought the tories all my life. you know, nw— fought the tories all my life. you know, my first involvement in you know, my first involvement rn pounce— you know, my first involvement in politics back— you know, my first involvement in politics back in— you know, my first involvement in politics back in 90, 1987 weenr— in politics back in 90, 1987 weenr wrrn— in politics back in 90, 1987 wasn't with the _ in politics back in 90, 1987 wasn't with the political party. it wasn't with the political party. n e— wasn't with the political party. n wrrn— wasn't with the political party. it was with tactical voting, rrwrng — it was with tactical voting, rrwrng ro — it was with tactical voting, rrwrng ro ger— it was with tactical voting, trying to get the tories out. krgnre— trying to get the tories out. krgnre so— trying to get the tories out. right? so fought all my right? so i fought them all my life right? so i fought them all my we end— right? so i fought them all my life and ifought_ right? so i fought them all my life and fought them every day right? so i fought them all my lifrthe d fought them every day right? so i fought them all my lifrthe coalitiont them every day right? so i fought them all my lifrthe coalition buttm every day right? so i fought them all my lifrthe coalition but you very day right? so i fought them all my lifrthe coalition but you haveiay right? so i fought them all my lifrthe coalition but you have to in the coalition but you have to neke— in the coalition but you have to nee-work.— in the coalition but you have to neke-work. ke— in the coalition but you have to make -work. as for- make that work. as for government,- make that work. as for government, so i was in charge for rnree— government, so i was in charge for rnree eno— government, so i was in charge for rnree ene e— government, so i was in charge for three and a bit— government, so i was in charge for three and a bit years of energw— for three and a bit years of energw eno— for three and a bit years of energy and climate change pokkw— energy and climate change policyr wnen— energy and climate change policy, which is— energy and climate change policy, which is a passion of |gor— policy, which is a passion of mine.igot into— policy, which is a passion of mine. got into politics partly mine. i got into politics partly peeewee— mine. i got into politics partly peeewee or— mine. i got into politics partly because of environment and because of the environment and the because of the environment and rne-wrrk— because of the environment and rne-wrkk nw— because of the environment and rne-wrkk rrw ro— because of the environment and the-will try to-me. the tories will try to stop me eno—

the tories will try to stop me ene r— the tories will try to stop me ene r perenn— the tories will try to stop me and i pretend was doing that and i pretend i was doing that erer— and i pretend i was doing that erer-r— and i pretend i was doing that stuff- i - getting - and i pretend i was doing that stuff-i-getting on. stuff while i was getting on wrrn— stuff while i was getting on wrrn going— stuff while i was getting on with doing liberal democrat erwrr. — with doing liberal democrat erwrr. mow— with doing liberal democrat stuff.-you had- with doing liberal democrat stuff. you had to play those stuff. and you had to play those gee —rrke- stuff. and you had to play those gee —rrke ro- stuff. and you had to play those games. like to think games. you know, i like to think we-prerrw— games. you know, i like to think we pretty successful. we we were pretty successful. we gweerwpkeo— we were pretty successful. we quadrupled renewable quadrupled britain's renewable poe— quadrupled britain's renewable power—eo- quadrupled britain's renewable powe—eo on| quadrupled britain's renewable i powe—eo ene power, wind power and so on, and i power, wind power and so on, and r-rne— power, wind power and so on, and r-rne ronee— power, wind power and so on, and i-the tories doing- power, wind power and so on, and i the tories doing what i stopped the tories doing what new— i stopped the tories doing what rnew-ro— i stopped the tories doing what rnew-ro-so- i stopped the tories doing what they-to-so politicsi they wanted to do. so politics is they wanted to do. so politics re rne— they wanted to do. so politics re rne en— they wanted to do. so politics re rne en or— they wanted to do. so politics is the art of the— they wanted to do. so politics is the art of the possible. and i is the art of the possible. and r e— is the art of the possible. and r rrwrng— is the art of the possible. and rwee rrwrng ro— is the art of the possible. and i was trying to get things that the democrats— i was trying to get things that the democrats believed in, you know,— the democrats believed in, you know—for— know, more help for disadvantaged the disadvantaged kids with the peopke,— disadvantaged kids with the. pewter—people people, premium help, people wrrn— people, premium help, people wrrn nenrek— people, premium help, people with mental health problems, renewepke— with mental health problems, renewable power, the environment. the only renewable power, the- environment.-the only way environment. and the only way you— environment. and the only way wow—wer- environment. and the only way wow—rner re- environment. and the only way wow—rner re n- you can really do that is if wow-e— you can really do that is if wow-re p..— you can really do that is if you're in power— you can really do that is if you're in power just you're in power and you just newe— you're in power and you just newe ro— you're in power and you just newe ro-rne- you're in power and you just have to the situation have to manage the situation wow-re— have to manage the situation were-win— have to manage the situation wow-re-wrrn. so- have to manage the situation you're with. so on the you're handed with. so on the peere— you're handed with. so on the peere or— you're handed with. so on the peere or we— you're handed with. so on the basis of the logic— you're handed with. so on the basis of the logic of that ergwnene— basis of the logic of that argument, it— basis of the logic of that argument, it would be possible if argument, it would be possible n we— argument, it would be possible if the conservatives were the prggeer— if the conservatives were the biggest party- _ if the conservatives were the biggest party. 3g biggest party. i'm making a lot of suppositions, but i think it's the consensus that it's a fight for who's the biggest party. of course, politics is the ability to prove is wrong. but on the logic of that argument, you could you could go into coalition with tories. into coalition with the tories. again, it very clear again, i've made it very clear i'm glad you're giving the opportunity clear opportunity to make it clear again, we never do a deal again, we will never do a deal with the conservatives i'm

with the conservatives while i'm leader liberal leader that the liberal democrats, i said a few minutes ago that i fought the conservatives all life and to conservatives all my life and to get this awful government out of power, we have to remove a lot of conservative mps. and i said when i became— of conservative mps. and i said when i became the— t and i said when i became the leader, that we— when i became the leader, that we ee— when i became the leader, that we nw— when i became the leader, that that was my mission to remove coneerwerrwe— that was my mission to remove conservative mps— that was my mission to remove conservative mps and remove this coneerwerrwe— conservative mps and remove this conservative government. it wowe— conservative government. it would_bonkers,l would be logical, bonkers, newng— would be logical, bonkers, newrng gone— would be logical, bonkers, having done that, to put them peek.— having done that, to put them peek. we— having done that, to put them back. we will— having done that, to put them back. we will not— having done that, to put them back. we will not do that now. ker— back. we will not do that now. kerr sterner.— back. we will not do that now. keir starmer, the— back. we will not do that now. keir starmer, the labour- back. we will not do that now. keir starmer, the labour leader, he says we're going to win a majority government. mean , you majority government. i mean, you know, lot of know, there's a lot of scepticism about that, but if we take him at his word, then there is no role for the liberal democrats in any coalition government with the labour party. do you think it's fanciful for him to suggest that the there can a majority the there can be a majority labour government ? he's got to labour government? he's got to say his labour government? he's got to eew nre prece— labour government? he's got to eew nre preee ,— labour government? he's got to say his piece , what— labour government? he's got to say his piece , what i- labour government? he's got to say his piece , what i do- , 3“ he's got to say his piece , what i do for the say his piece, what i do for the penoerere— say his piece, what i do for the penoerere r— say his piece, what i do for the democrats, i want— say his piece, what i do for the democrats, i want to say why peopre— democrats, i want to say why peopre enorm— democrats, i want to say why people should liberal people should vote liberal penoerer. — democrat. that's the most rnponenr— democrat. that's the most- important—leader democrat. that's the most- important_leader , important message for a leader, wnerner— important message for a leader, wnewer-owr— important message for a leader, whether our positions on whether it's our positions on coer— whether it's our positions on oer-o— whether it's our positions on oer-o rne- whether it's our positions on. cost-on the -on cost of living, on the nhs, on we— cost of living, on the nhs, on the environment,— cost of living, on the nhs, on the environment, whatever it may be. r— the environment, whatever it may be. r wenr— the environment, whatever it may be. r wenr ro— the environment, whatever it may be. i want to make— the environment, whatever it may be. i want to make people understand— be. i want to make people. understand—about be. i want to make people- understand_about to understand what we're about to end— understand what we're about to

ene-roen— understand what we're about to and-local liberal- and vote for local liberal penoerer— and vote for local liberal democrat mps- and vote for local liberal. democrat mps-local democrat mps as their local onenprone.— democrat mps as their local champions. and— democrat mps as their local champions. and one thing i've keerneo— champions. and one thing i've learned because— champions. and one thing i've learned because i've been in pounce— learned because i've been in pokrrree e— learned because i've been in politics a little— learned because i've been in politics a little while i got ekeereo— politics a little while i got elected aged— politics a little while i got elected aged 31in 97, so i've worked— elected aged 31in 97, so i've worked with— elected aged 31in 97, so i've worked with lots— elected aged 31in 97, so i've worked with lots of leaders with renow— worked with lots of leaders with paddy ashdown, _ worked with lots of leaders with paddy ashdown, who is my hero edeekkw— paddy ashdown, who is my hero actually, charles— paddy ashdown, who is my hero actually, charles kennedy , ming actually, charles kennedy, ming cenppekr— actually, charles kennedy, ming cenppekr eno— actually, charles kennedy, ming campbell and so— actually, charles kennedy, ming campbell and so on. and what r-we— campbell and so on. and what be noted— campbell and so on. and what i've noticed is— campbell and so on. and what i've noticed is in— campbell and so on. and what i've noticed is in elections, rnoee— i've noticed is in elections, rnoee newe— i've noticed is in elections, those days that— i've noticed is in elections, those days that focus on winning the those days that focus on winning rne ekeerrone— those days that focus on winning the elections and— those days that focus on winning the elections and not days after the elections and not days after we ereerron— the elections and not days after the election are— the elections and not days after the election are most successful . eo— the election are most successful . so wow— the election are most successful . so wow know— the election are most successful . so you know what? i'm going to do . so you know what? i'm going to no ee— . so you know what? i'm going to no ee keeoere— . so you know what? i'm going to do as leader? the— . so you know what? i'm going to do as leader? the democrats is nor— do as leader? the democrats is nor reu— do as leader? the democrats is nor rerk inro— do as leader? the democrats is not fall into the _ do as leader? the democrats is not fall into the trap of hypothecating and what will neppen — hypothecating and what will neppen p..— hypothecating and what will neppen rn ene— hypothecating and what will happen in the future. i'm going to happen in the future. i'm going ro roewe— happen in the future. i'm going ro roewe on— happen in the future. i'm going to focus on that— happen in the future. i'm going to focus on that election. so i do to focus on that election. so i no ger— to focus on that election. so i no ger no— to focus on that election. so i go ger no end— to focus on that election. so i do get rid and play the liberal penoerer— do get rid and play the liberal democrat role— do get rid and play the liberal democrat role in— do get rid and play the liberal democrat role in getting rid of we— democrat role in getting rid of this conservative _ democrat role in getting rid of this conservative government. rte— this conservative government. rne reor— this conservative government. the last general— this conservative government. the last general election- this conservative government. the last general election and the then leader, jo swinson, she stood up and said, i you, i want to be the next prime minister. i am standing in front of you as the liberal democrat leader to become the next prime minister

of britain. would you are you doing that ? i'm going to be doing that? i'm going to be eeenk— doing that? i'm going to be eeenk kn— doing that? i'm going to be clear. an interview- r:rt:r 3g c337 i'm going to be clear. an interview after rnrerwew— clear. an interview after interview, i'm- clear. an interview after interview, i'm going to say i wenr— interview, i'm going to say i wenr peopre— interview, i'm going to say i wenr peopre ro— interview, i'm going to say i want people to vote liberal penoerer— want people to vote liberal democrat for— want people to vote liberal democrat for our policies, for our-candidates- democrat for our policies, for our-candidates to- democrat for our policies, for our candidates to elect as our great candidates to elect as nenw— our great candidates to elect as nenw rrperek— our great candidates to elect as many liberal democrat mps as poeerpke— many liberal democrat mps as poeerpke eno— many liberal democrat mps as possible and the— many liberal democrat mps as possible and the more liberal penoerer— possible and the more liberal democrat mps.— possible and the more liberal democrat mps. people for democrat mps. people vote for the democrat mps. people vote for we more— democrat mps. people vote for the more you'll— democrat mps. people vote for the more you'll have people onenpronrng— the more you'll have people championing those policies in the championing those policies in we new— championing those policies in the next parliament. you know , the next parliament. you know, wnerner— the next parliament. you know, wnerner wow-re— the next parliament. you know, whether you're the opposition whether you're in the opposition or—nekel or government, you can make a big or government, you can make a reg greene— or government, you can make a big difference. both to your koeek— big difference. both to your koeek eree— big difference. both to your local area, to— big difference. both to your local area, to your constituency, as know very, constituency, as you know very, werw— constituency, as you know very, werw-ereo — constituency, as you know very, werw-ereo inro- constituency, as you know very, very-also into the - very well. but also into the nerronek— very well. but also into the national debate— very well. but also into the national debate . so my job is to national debate. so my job is to onenpron— national debate. so my job is to onenpron rne— national debate. so my job is to champion the cause of liberal penoerer— champion the cause of liberal democrat candidates , and i'm democrat candidates, and i'm going— democrat candidates, and i'm gorng ro— democrat candidates, and i'm gorng ro roewe— democrat candidates, and i'm going to focus on— democrat candidates, and i'm going to focus on that with reeer— going to focus on that with keeer been. — going to focus on that with laser beam. like, do you want to get laser beam. like, do you want to ger one— laser beam. like, do you want to ger one were— laser beam. like, do you want to ger one war, r— laser beam. like, do you want to get on? well, i don't often chat to get on? well, i don't often chat ro nin— get on? well, i don't often chat ro nrn, ro— get on? well, i don't often chat ro nrn, ro pe— get on? well, i don't often chat to him, to be honest. i tend to ener— to him, to be honest. i tend to one ro— to him, to be honest. i tend to one o nin— to him, to be honest. i tend to chat to him national events. chat to him at national events. so chat to him at national events. solr— chat to him at national events. soli oon-r— chat to him at national events. soll don't know— chat to him at national events. so i don't know who did it, so i. i don't know who did it, our— so i. i don't know who did it, pwrlwee— so i. i don't know who did it, pwrlwee eer— so i. i don't know who did it, buthas sat next— so i. i don't know who did it, but was sat next to during the but i was sat next to during the coronerron— but i was sat next to during the coronation so— but i was sat next to during the coronation so obviously i had a tong— coronation so obviously i had a kong were— coronation so obviously i had a long wait, which— coronation so obviously i had a long wait, which fine. of long wait, which was fine. of course, -majesty- long wait, which was fine. of course, majesty and her course, for his majesty and her neg-eew— course, for his majesty and her neg-eew .— course, for his majesty and her neteerw . kno— course, for his majesty and her neteerw . kno r— course, for his majesty and her majesty . and i was chatting with majesty. and i was chatting with him majesty. and i was chatting with nrn-epowr— majesty. and i was chatting with him - about the _ majesty. and i was chatting with him about the event and him a lot about the event and epowr— him a lot about the event and epowr koeek— him a lot about the event and about local elections. the other fine— about local elections. the other fine r-we— about local elections. the other fine be new— about local elections. the other time i've had the— about local elections. the other time i've had the chats with him

newe— time i've had the chats with him newe keen— time i've had the chats with him newe peen er— time i've had the chats with him have been at the— time i've had the chats with him have been at the remembrance songw— have been at the remembrance sunday. whitehall, sunday. yeah, in whitehall, wnere— sunday. yeah, in whitehall, wnere peer— sunday. yeah, in whitehall, where past prime ministers and party— where past prime ministers and penw reeoere— where past prime ministers and party leaders are— where past prime ministers and party leaders are all sort of mining— party leaders are all sort of milling around.— party leaders are all sort of milling around. yeah, you know, i milling around. yeah, you know, r-ro— milling around. yeah, you know, r-ro rekk— milling around. yeah, you know, r-ro rekk ro— milling around. yeah, you know, i-to talk to the— milling around. yeah, you know, i to talk to the prime i get to talk to the prime wnere.— i get to talk to the prime minister. i'll— i get to talk to the prime minister. i'll talk to gordon brown— minister. i'll talk to gordon brown er— minister. i'll talk to gordon brown at those— minister. i'll talk to gordon brown at those events and opwowekw— brown at those events and opwowekw r— brown at those events and obviously i rubbed shoulders wrrn— obviously i rubbed shoulders wrrn ker— obviously i rubbed shoulders with keir though. so those are rnornenre— with keir though. so those are moments where— with keir though. so those are moments where you're, you're going— moments where you're, you're eorng wow— moments where you're, you're eorng wowr enew— moments where you're, you're doing your duty as a national party— doing your duty as a national nenw keeoer— doing your duty as a national party leader and— doing your duty as a national party leader and you get a eeneen— party leader and you get a eeneen ro— party leader and you get a chance to, you— party leader and you get a chance to, you know, chat with ornere. — chance to, you know, chat with ornere. rr-e— chance to, you know, chat with others. it's no— chance to, you know, chat with others. it's no secret- chance to, you know, chat with others. e t 3grt others. it's no secret meetings , just just no secret meetings . , just just no secret meetings. no. now when you said that you wanted to get rid of the tories, that was what was driving you. that's what has always driven you in life. there's these three by elections coming up now, wouldn't be sensible do wouldn't it be sensible to do a deal on this because labour is saying we are going for, for for, the trouble. we're going to take all of those seats. i'm sure you may or may not say the same. you can tell me that in a moment. but clearly that is splitting the anti—tory vote . is splitting the anti—tory vote. is that sensible ? you might end up that sensible? you might end up with three tory mps back. well, first of all, i think in—

with three tory mps back. well, first of all, i think in a- first of all, i think in a oenoereew— first of all, i think in a democracy you should give people a democracy you should give people eeeneen— democracy you should give people e n ro— democracy you should give people a chance to vote— democracy you should give people a chance to vote for— democracy you should give people a chance to vote for your values eno— a chance to vote for your values ene wow— a chance to vote for your values and your policies— a chance to vote for your values and your policies and your knee.— and your policies and your roeee. so— and your policies and your ideas. so we— and your policies and your ideas. so we will stand in every erngke— ideas. so we will stand in every engen— ideas. so we will stand in every erngke- kno— ideas. so we will stand in every erngke- ann wow- ideas. so we will stand in every single . and you know, i single seat. and you know, i newe— single seat. and you know, i newe e— single seat. and you know, i newe e greer— single seat. and you know, i have a great faith in the nnrren— have a great faith in the british people. if they want to wore — british people. if they want to wore e— british people. if they want to vote a particular— british people. if they want to vote a particular party out or a penrewker— vote a particular party out or a penrewker penw— vote a particular party out or a particular party in,— vote a particular party out or a particular party in, they'll neke— particular party in, they'll make those— particular party in, they'll make those choices. on the local enrnnerre. — make those choices. on the local enrnnerre. so— make those choices. on the local arithmetic. so when— make those choices. on the local arithmetic. so when i look at rneee— arithmetic. so when i look at rneee kw— arithmetic. so when i look at these by elections and we're eenernkw— these by elections and we're eenernkw gorng— these by elections and we're certainly going to stand in all of certainly going to stand in all or rnen— certainly going to stand in all or rnen eno— certainly going to stand in all of them and campaign in all of men,— of them and campaign in all of rnen, r— of them and campaign in all of rnen, r newe— of them and campaign in all of them, i have noticed in mid beds rner— them, i have noticed in mid beds we we— them, i have noticed in mid beds we we newe— them, i have noticed in mid beds we we newe e— them, i have noticed in mid beds that we have a fantastic chance. kno— that we have a fantastic chance. one we— that we have a fantastic chance. and the reason— that we have a fantastic chance. and the reason i— that we have a fantastic chance. and the reason i think that is it's and the reason i think that is to en— and the reason i think that is we werw neon— and the reason i think that is it's very much like the other rnree— it's very much like the other rnree ow— it's very much like the other three by elections we've won in we— three by elections we've won in this parliament,— three by elections we've won in this parliament, know, this parliament, you know, cneenen— this parliament, you know, chesham amersham in true chesham and amersham in true pree— blue buckinghamshire, people eere— blue buckinghamshire, people eero—.- blue buckinghamshire, people eero—. we- blue buckinghamshire, people eere—we didl blue buckinghamshire, people- said_. we did and said we couldn't win. we did and we came from third— said we couldn't win. we did and we came from third place in nonn— we came from third place in north shropshire and third place in rrwenon— north shropshire and third place in tiverton and— north shropshire and third place in tiverton and honiton because we gor— in tiverton and honiton because we gor gooe— in tiverton and honiton because we got good local— in tiverton and honiton because we got good local strength . so, we got good local strength. so, you— we got good local strength. so, wow-twe— we got good local strength. so, you-i've already- we got good local strength. so, you i've already been to you know, i've already been to one— you know, i've already been to one nene— you know, i've already been to mid beds cheshire twice. i've knocked—talk- mid beds cheshire twice. i've knocked _talk to i knocked on doors to talk to peopke. — knocked on doors to talk to peopke. r-n— knocked on doors to talk to people. i'm really clear the mere— people. i'm really clear the liberal democrats are the onekrengee— liberal democrats are the challenges and actually i'm you you challenges and actually i'm you won porrrrerene— challenges and actually i'm you you politicians often do this ekpeer— you politicians often do this expect expectation management.

i'm expect expectation management. r-n nor— expect expectation management. r-n nor gorng— expect expectation management. r-n nor gorng ro— expect expectation management. i'm not going to do it. i think we r— i'm not going to do it. i think we can win. i genuinely do in. wenwe— we can win. i genuinely do in. weerne pornee— we can win. i genuinely do in. nadine dorries former- we can win. i genuinely do in. nadine dorries former seat- we can win. i genuinely do in. nadine dorries former seat and i haven't been to the others. i can't comment on those but from wow— can't comment on those but from wow wro— can't comment on those but from wowr one nene— can't comment on those but from wowr one nene ,— can't comment on those but from wowr one nene, r— can't comment on those but from your mid beds , i think it's game your mid beds, i think it's game k— your mid beds, i think it's game k cowpre— your mid beds, i think it's game k oowpre or— your mid beds, i think it's game on. a couple of weeks- your mid beds, i think it's game on. ' on. a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks you did this weeks ago, you did this interview lbc, nick ferrari interview on lbc, nick ferrari asked you, can a woman have a penis? said, well, penis? yes, you said, well, quite without getting quite clearly, without getting into of the issue, into the specifics of the issue, you said you were talking about small number of people. you faced backlash for those faced a big backlash for those comments. you had a rethink comments. have you had a rethink since you said that the position that i described in that programme is the one that i think is just factually true, namely that the vast majority motty of women feel that their genderis motty of women feel that their gender is the same as their biological sex at birth, but it's just a fact that a few don't. a small number don't. and the don't. a small number don't. and we rew— don't. a small number don't. and we rew tn— don't. a small number don't. and we rew in our— don't. a small number don't. and the law in our country— r:rt:r3 e a small number don't. and the law in our country has reeognreeo— the law in our country has recognised that- the law in our country has recognised that for the last 20 weere— recognised that for the last 20 weere eno— recognised that for the last 20 years and given— recognised that for the last 20 years and given them protections and years and given them protections ene err.— years and given them protections ene err. r— years and given them protections and all. i think— years and given them protections and all. i think is— years and given them protections and all. i think is that the oepere— and all. i think is that the debate should— and all. i think is that the debate should focus on that, on, on we— debate should focus on that, on, on we recre— debate should focus on that, on, on the facts and,— debate should focus on that, on, on the facts and, and we should be e— on the facts and, and we should be e on—

on the facts and, and we should be e or none— on the facts and, and we should be a bit more sympathetic and eekn— be a bit more sympathetic and eekn ene,— be a bit more sympathetic and calm and, and— be a bit more sympathetic and calm and, and compassionate to peopke— calm and, and compassionate to peopke. rr-e— calm and, and compassionate to peopke. rr-e en— calm and, and compassionate to people. it's an extraordinary eerkw— people. it's an extraordinary eerkw kne— people. it's an extraordinary early life story— people. it's an extraordinary early life story . r: i early life story. ed davey, liberal democrat leader, thank you very much indeed. thank you . coming up, chair of the treasury select committee, conservative mp harriet baldwin . inflation, which i remember from— . inflation, which i remember from growrng— . inflation, which i remember from growrng ep— inflation, which i remember from growing up in the 70s, was is from growing up in the 70s, was re en— from growing up in the 70s, was is an absolute— from growing up in the 70s, was is an absolute curse on an eeonornw n— is an absolute curse on an eeonornw n re— is an absolute curse on an economy. it is the worst tax, a wnoke— economy. it is the worst tax, a whole economy— economy. it is the worst tax, a whole economy can play. south yorkshire— whole economy can play. south yorkshire mayor— whole economy can play. south yorkshire mayor oliver coppard. it is always easy to tell people you don't like your opponents in politics that they're doing the wrong thing. it's hard , much wrong thing. it's hard, much newer— wrong thing. it's hard, much neroer ro— wrong thing. it's hard, much harder to tell— wrong thing. it's hard, much harder to tell your- g 3g it's hard, much harder to tell your friends that rnew-re— harder to tell your friends that rnew-re nor— harder to tell your friends that they're not doing— harder to tell your friends that they're not doing the right wing— they're not doing the right rnrng .—

and then make a judgement about wner— and then make a judgement about we we— and then make a judgement about we we ngnr— and then make a judgement about what the right course of action re. — what the right course of action re. vow-re— what the right course of action is. you're listening- what the right course of action is. you're listening to- what the right course of action is. /rt:r ”rt; e rtrt3 3r: cit what the right course of action is. /rt:r ”rt; e rtrt3 3r: [15 k is. you're listening to gb news radio . is. you're listening to gb news radio. harriet is. you're listening to gb news radio . harriet baldwin conserved radio. harriet baldwin conserved lviv radio. harriet baldwin conserved rww wn— radio. harriet baldwin conserved

lviv mp, elected— radio. harriet baldwin conserved lviv mp, elected in— 13r: harriet baldwin conserved lviv mp, elected in 2010 and now the lviv mp, elected in 2010 and now we ener— lviv mp, elected in 2010 and now we enerr or— lviv mp, elected in 2010 and now the chair of the— lviv mp, elected in 2010 and now the chair of the treasury select connrrree — the chair of the treasury select connrrree .— the chair of the treasury select committee . only— the chair of the treasury select committee . only the second woman committee. only the second woman ro— committee. only the second woman ro noto— committee. only the second woman ever to hold that— committee. only the second woman ever to hold that position . i'm ever to hold that position. i'm going— ever to hold that position. i'm gorng ro— ever to hold that position. i'm gorng ro eren— ever to hold that position. i'm gorng ro eren ow— ever to hold that position. i'm going to start by something you eere— going to start by something you eere wnen— going to start by something you eere wnen wow— going to start by something you said when you got— going to start by something you said when you got that job, wnen— said when you got that job, wnren ee— said when you got that job, which was last— said when you got that job, which was last year, you were eppornreo.— which was last year, you were eppornree. vow— which was last year, you were appointed. you said this. they say— appointed. you said this. they eew rner— appointed. you said this. they eew rner one— appointed. you said this. they say that one of— appointed. you said this. they say that one of the differences perween— say that one of the differences perween-eno— say that one of the differences between and women that if between men and women is that if a between men and women is that if etop— between men and women is that if etop re— between men and women is that if erop re poereo,— between men and women is that if a job is posted, the— between men and women is that if a job is posted, the man will rnrnk— a job is posted, the man will rnrnk ,— a job is posted, the man will rnrnk, r-we— a job is posted, the man will think , i've probably got 60% of think, i've probably got 60% of woe— think, i've probably got 60% of those qualifications . i'm going those qualifications. i'm going to those qualifications. i'm going ro go— those qualifications. i'm going ro go for— those qualifications. i'm going ro go for tr.— those qualifications. i'm going to go for it. and— those qualifications. i'm going to go for it. and a— those qualifications. i'm going to go for it. and a woman will wink,— to go for it. and a woman will rnrnk, r— to go for it. and a woman will rnrnk, r oon-r— to go for it. and a woman will think, i don't think i have 100. so think, i don't think i have 100. so r— think, i don't think i have 100. so r nrgnr— think, i don't think i have 100. so r nrgnr nor— think, i don't think i have 100. so i might not put my name towere— so i might not put my name forwero. rne— so i might not put my name forward. the minute the opening occurred. your— forward. the minute the opening occurred. your words, i thought, r-n — occurred. your words, i thought, r-n zoow— occurred. your words, i thought, i'm 200% qualified, died to do rnre— i'm 200% qualified, died to do we too.— i'm 200% qualified, died to do rnrerop. ewe— i'm 200% qualified, died to do thisjob. give us— i'm 200% qualified, died to do thisjob. give us some i'm 200% qualified, died to do this job. give us some tips for rnoee— this job. give us some tips for rnoee or— this job. give us some tips for rnoee or we— this job. give us some tips for those of us who— this job. give us some tips for those of us who aren't as eonnoenr— those of us who aren't as confident and— those of us who aren't as confident and probably have retren— confident and probably have rekken inro— confident and probably have fallen into the— confident and probably have fallen into the category that you— fallen into the category that won rner— fallen into the category that you that you've— fallen into the category that you that you've suggested when it you that you've suggested when rr eornee— you that you've suggested when rr ro— you that you've suggested when it comes to applying for some rope. — it comes to applying for some jobs. absolutely— it comes to applying for some jobs. absolutely ' 3r: jobs. absolutely and it was a moment where i realised that actually my whole life so far had leading up qualify had been leading up to qualify me for role that i currently me for the role that i currently am. privileged to hold. i had worked in financial markets myself , so for over two decades

myself, so for over two decades i was with jp morgan. i was one of few female managing of the few female managing directors there. then directors there. and then i changed career completely, gone into parliament, and i was fortunate in 2015, after the 2015 general election for that year , in the run up to the year, in the run up to the referendum, i was economic secretary, which is the minister in charge of the sort of financial services sector in the city. and then i'd been on the treasury committee for three years since the 2019 general election, and i'd tried the first time to get elected as chair and hadn't succeeded. so then when a vacancy occurred, i thought, i'm going to go for it. and fortunately, you know, although there were five candidates, my colleagues in parliament agreed and was parliament agreed and i was elected chair. where do elected to the chair. where do you get elected to the chair. where do wow ger ener— elected to the chair. where do you get that sort— elected to the chair. where do you get that sort of— t: rt3r3 . where do you get that sort of confidence in e— you get that sort of confidence in e erreek,— you get that sort of confidence in a streak, that— you get that sort of confidence in a streak, that self—belief, wnen— in a streak, that self—belief, wnren re— in a streak, that self—belief, which is admirable we all which is admirable and we all enowko— which is admirable and we all should-where- which is admirable and we all should where does yours should have it. where does yours e—oegrow ep- should have it. where does yours e—oegrow wp ,- should have it. where does yours come grown up , you come from? i've grown up, you know,— come from? i've grown up, you know, some were— come from? i've grown up, you know, some were born in 1960, in a know, some were born in 1960, in erer-nee— know, some were born in 1960, in a where women actually a world where women actually own-r— a world where women actually wont-neon- a world where women actually didn't-much. - a world where women actually didn't-much. you. a world where women actually. didn't-much . you know, didn't do very much. you know, enew— didn't do very much. you know, rnew gor— didn't do very much. you know, they got married, they had children. i think my own mum,

when she married my father, she actually gave up her job and it actually gave up herjob and it wasn't considered the right thing to go to university. if you were a girl. i mean, it was an environment where girls were told, you know, a lot of the time and i'm one of those people who if someone says no to me, you know , that really me you know, that really makes me want go for it. and so want to go for it. and so another area that said no was financial services, was the city. it was terribly posh, terribly male. if you recall . terribly male. if you recall. and i deliberately joined an american firm because i thought they would be more meritocratic than some of these old school tie type bastions of masculinity in the city. and sure enough , i in the city. and sure enough, i had a flourishing career with jp morgan. i'm very grateful to them for my time there. but even there, you know, they said no , a there, you know, they said no, a lot of a lot of the time. so there was no woman who, as an investment manager like i was, had ever come back from maternity leave and so i'm in my

mid 30s. i have my son and i go back to work after 14 weeks full time as a portfolio manager travelling the world and i get to the end of the year and my portfolios have done well and my client base had grown and i'd had a fantastic year and my boss starts to give me the bonus conversation and he said, well, you know, harriet, you've had the most fantastic year and your bonus really should be, you know, double what you got last yeah know, double what you got last year. but because you took 14 weeks maternity leave, i'm cutting it proportionately as a result of that. and i said, really get air in here now. i mean , you're meant to be paid mean, you're meant to be paid for results, for not how much time you spend in the office. and yet i was the only woman in that firm who had ever returned from maternity leave in an investment manager position. why? because . well, not why? just because. well, not surprising, you surprising, is it? when you think about of no think about the kind of no signals that management was sending out , signals that management was sending out, but that's maternity discrimination . do you

maternity discrimination. do you think it's alive and well- maternity discrimination. do you think it's alive and well . - maternity discrimination. do you think it's alive and well . this think it's alive and well. this is think it's alive and well. this re-nre— think it's alive and well. this re-nre poe— think it's alive and well. this is-mid 905, gloria.- think it's alive and well. this is mid 90s, gloria. things is the mid 90s, gloria. things have got a lot better since then. but, you know, it was my generation that had to really fight against that, saying no and no, you can't do that. and you know, i succeeded. i was very lucky after that. they promoted me. you know, i continued to go up the organisational ladder, but i was regarded as this kind of for forerunner of , of those who've forerunner of, of those who've come after. and i think, you know, we've every time someone says no to me and then i would look at parliament and i would look at parliament and i would look at parliament and i would look at conservative mps and i would think, do you know they haven't got anywhere near enough women mps? and of course that's the moment when you start down that that road to getting elected yourself when it comes to women in politics. i mean, we've now to women in politics. i mean, neo— to women in politics. i mean, we've now had three- 3 3 i mean, we've now had three women prime wrnrerere— we've now had three women prime wrnrerere eu— we've now had three women prime ministers all conservative, and the ministers all conservative, and we one— ministers all conservative, and we wewe— ministers all conservative, and the one we've had— ministers all conservative, and the one we've had female foreign eeeeeneer — the one we've had female foreign secretaries. the— the one we've had female foreign secretaries. the one— the one we've had female foreign secretaries. the one job that we've never had— secretaries. the one job that we've never had a woman as

cneneekror— we've never had a woman as cneneekkor e— we've never had a woman as chancellor a woman in charge of the chancellor a woman in charge of we nerron-e— chancellor a woman in charge of the nation's finances. chancellor a woman in charge of the nation's finances . why is the nation's finances. why is we— the nation's finances. why is we we— the nation's finances. why is that the hardest— the nation's finances. why is that the hardest nut to crack? i rnrnk— that the hardest nut to crack? i rnrnk rr-e— that the hardest nut to crack? i rnrnk rr-e iner— that the hardest nut to crack? i think it's just been the circumstances. ' think it's just been the- circumstances. and i think we'll have one definitely in my lifetime. what i want to see in my lifetime is a 5050 parliament. you know, when you were an mp, when i was first elected, we were still in terms of the number of women who'd been elected, we were still smaller in number in the entire history of the united kingdom than the number of men who were in parliament at that time. i mean, that is a extraordinary statistic, isn't it ? and, you statistic, isn't it? and, you know, good on you and every woman who stands for public office because i think we do need to get to that 5050 parliament our lifetime arms. parliament in our lifetime arms. now, of the treasury now, your chair of the treasury select committee, as we've said, the is at the centre of the economy is at the centre of everything at the moment because people hurting, families are people are hurting, families are hurting the price of everything seems extortion , honest wage seems extortion, honest wage growth in real terms , hasn't growth in real terms, hasn't really moved for a couple of

decades. i want to ask you about or— decades. i want to ask you about or we— decades. i want to ask you about one of the prime— :t: i want to ask you about one of the prime ministers, the nine— one of the prime ministers, the prime minister's— one of the prime ministers, the prime minister's first pledge. he owned— prime minister's first pledge. he outlined these five pledges. he outlined these five pledges. ne eere— he outlined these five pledges. we eere we— he outlined these five pledges. he said we will— he outlined these five pledges. he said we will halve inflation. rnre— he said we will halve inflation. rnre weer. — he said we will halve inflation. rnre weer. re— he said we will halve inflation. this year. it doesn't- he said we will halve inflation. this year. c : e ”rtrt; e this year. it doesn't feel like that yet, does it? no, and it's been such a terrible time for household budgets. it's been absolute ghastly inflation, which i remember from growing up in the 70s, is an absolute curse on an economy . it is the worst on an economy. it is the worst tax a whole economy can pay . and tax a whole economy can pay. and of course it's a tax on the very poorest households above all. and this particular bout of inflation has been particularly cruel because as a result of putin invading ukraine, you got the price of energy going up. so much, you've got the price of food going up so much. now those are two of the most important items in your household budget . items in your household budget. and inflation has been unbearably cruel, particularly to those on the lowest incomes.

so we've got to get inflation under control . and more from under control. and more from renter— under control. and more from harriet baldwin. _ under control. and more from harriet baldwin. after- e. 3r:rt” t and more from harriet baldwin. after the week. — harriet baldwin. after the week. so— harriet baldwin. after the break. so the- harriet baldwin. after the break. r: t harriet baldwin. after the- break. so the difference is that in a las vegas casino, of course, the women would wear short skirts . and he comes over short skirts. and he comes over to me and he gives my skirt a sort of hike .

tv radio and online gb news. nnrern-e— tv radio and online gb news. britain's news— tv radio and online gb news. britain's news .— tv radio and online gb news. britain's news. channel c tv radio and online gb news. britain's news . channel c britain's news. channel it seems to britain's news. channel it seems re re— britain's news. channel it seems n be newer— britain's news. channel it seems to be harder in— britain's news. channel it seems to be harder in our country in the uk than it is in other countries. so of course everybody's been subject to these global factors, but why? why is it so tough for us and so tough that the prime minister , tough that the prime minister, as i say, made this his number one pledge? it doesn't look like it's going to make it. i actually do think we'll see inflation come down over the second half of the year. we've already seen it go— second half of the year. we've already seen it go past- t: we've already seen it go past the oer— already seen it go past the oer per— already seen it go past the worst, but it— already seen it go past the worst, but it is— already seen it go past the worst, but it is still far too

nrgn. — worst, but it is still far too nrgn. rr-e— worst, but it is still far too high. it's still— worst, but it is still far too high. it's still four times the nenk— high. it's still four times the nenk or— high. it's still four times the bank of england's target . and bank of england's target. and wow-re— bank of england's target. and wow-re ngnr,— bank of england's target. and wow-re ngne p..— bank of england's target. and you're right, in terms of the nine— you're right, in terms of the prime minister's— you're right, in terms of the prime minister's pledge to halve rnrkerron— prime minister's pledge to halve inflation, he's— prime minister's pledge to halve inflation, he's given that job to inflation, he's given that job ro rne— inflation, he's given that job ro rne nenk— inflation, he's given that job to the bank of— inflation, he's given that job to the bank of england, hasn't nee— to the bank of england, hasn't nee so— to the bank of england, hasn't he? so through— to the bank of england, hasn't he? so through the chancellor, the chancellor— he? so through the chancellor, the chancellor writes the bank of the chancellor writes the bank or rngreno,— the chancellor writes the bank or rngkeno, e— the chancellor writes the bank of england, a letter says, we wenr— of england, a letter says, we wenr wow— of england, a letter says, we wenr wow ro— of england, a letter says, we want you to .for- of england, a letter says, we want you to for 2% over want you to aim for 2% over rrne. — want you to aim for 2% over rrne. kno— want you to aim for 2% over time. and since— want you to aim for 2% over time. and since the bank's been independent— time. and since the bank's been independent, it's— time. and since the bank's been independent, it's been 25 independent, it's been about 25 wee— independent, it's been about 25 weere-newe— independent, it's been about 25 weere-newe on— independent, it's been about 25 years. have on average years. they have on average eenreweo— years. they have on average achieved that— years. they have on average achieved that 2. _ years. they have on average achieved that 2. but at the rnornenr— achieved that 2. but at the rnornenr n— achieved that 2. but at the moment it just— achieved that 2. but at the moment it just feels so painful . war,— moment it just feels so painful . war, eno— moment it just feels so painful . war, end or— moment it just feels so painful . well, and of course, in terms of . well, and of course, in terms or reekrrng— . well, and of course, in terms or reekrrng p,— . well, and of course, in terms of tackling it, you— . well, and of course, in terms of tackling it, you know, i rnrnk— of tackling it, you know, i rnrnk werw— of tackling it, you know, i think very much on the record as newng— think very much on the record as newng keen— think very much on the record as newrng been on— think very much on the record as having been on the— think very much on the record as having been on the committee rnrowgnowr— having been on the committee throughout this— having been on the committee throughout this whole period of ergnekrrng— throughout this whole period of ergnerkrng ro— throughout this whole period of signalling to the— throughout this whole period of signalling to the governor that rnrnge— signalling to the governor that rnrnge wee— signalling to the governor that things were getting out of eonrrok— things were getting out of control long— things were getting out of control long before they really enor— control long before they really enor up.— control long before they really enor up. so— control long before they really enor up. so r— control long before they really shot up. so i think there were ergne— shot up. so i think there were ergne rner— shot up. so i think there were ergne we we— shot up. so i think there were signs that we were running into rnrkerronerw— signs that we were running into inflationary conditions. i think the inflationary conditions. i think we penk— inflationary conditions. i think the bank was— inflationary conditions. i think the bank was too— inflationary conditions. i think the bank was too slow and too rere— the bank was too slow and too we roo— the bank was too slow and too we roo eno— the bank was too slow and too late too and modest in terms of the late too and modest in terms of we rere— late too and modest in terms of the rate increase— late too and modest in terms of the rate increase was needed to reekre— the rate increase was needed to reekke rne— the rate increase was needed to tackle the level— the rate increase was needed to tackle the level of— the rate increase was needed to tackle the level of inflation rnew— tackle the level of inflation rnew rnowgnr— tackle the level of inflation they thought it— tackle the level of inflation they thought it would be rrenerrorw. — they thought it would be transitory. ' 3r:

they thought it would be transitory. 3r: transitory. and that means mortgage mortgages are forecast to keep on rising . these are to keep on rising. these are hard things to there's going to be an election in not too distant future . this is a this distant future. this is a this is a tough backdrop. what do you do ? how do you sort of say to do? how do you sort of say to people, i'm really sorry, but your mortgage rates are just going to keep going up? is that inevitable? well, i imagine that the inevitable? well, i imagine that we nenk— inevitable? well, i imagine that we nenk or— inevitable? well, i imagine that the bank of england,— 7 well, i imagine that the bank of england, again, rnew-re— the bank of england, again, they're independent. they have to they're independent. they have ro neke— they're independent. they have to make these— they're independent. they have to make these decisions. i rnegrne— to make these decisions. i imagine that— to make these decisions. i imagine that they will think epowr— imagine that they will think about-some- imagine that they will think about some more because, about doing some more because, as about doing some more because, ee wow— about doing some more because, ee wow save— about doing some more because, ee wow sayr rne— about doing some more because, ee wow sayr rne wk— about doing some more because, as you say, the uk story is etu— as you say, the uk story is errkk nor— as you say, the uk story is still not over— as you say, the uk story is still not over .— as you say, the uk story is still not over . and so for still not over. and so for eeonrwe— still not over. and so for everyone who's- still not over. and so for everyone who's been used to rnrereer— everyone who's been used to interest rates— everyone who's been used to interest rates being quite ridiculously— interest rates being quite ridiculously low by historic erenoeroe— ridiculously low by historic erenoeroe ,— ridiculously low by historic standards , you— ridiculously low by historic standards , you know, they were standards, you know, they were new— standards, you know, they were new — standards, you know, they were they were close— standards, you know, they were they were close to _ standards, you know, they were they were close to zero. i've got— they were close to zero. i've gor e— they were close to zero. i've gor e nwe— they were close to zero. i've gor e rrwe weer— they were close to zero. i've got a five year fixed at the rnornenr— got a five year fixed at the rnornenr er— got a five year fixed at the moment at like— got a five year fixed at the moment at like 1.2 something% it's ridiculous.— moment at like 1.2 something% it's ridiculous. us— moment at like 1.2 something% it's ridiculous. us but those reeke— it's ridiculous. us but those oeere wru— it's ridiculous. us but those deals will come— it's ridiculous. us but those deals will come to an end in eregee— deals will come to an end in eregee eno— deals will come to an end in stages and that's— deals will come to an end in stages and that's going to put a lot stages and that's going to put a or or— stages and that's going to put a or or peere— stages and that's going to put a lot of pressure on— stages and that's going to put a lot of pressure on those penrewker— lot of pressure on those particular households. the other rnrng— particular households. the other rnrng p..— particular households. the other rnrng in our— particular households. the other thing in our committee, we've been— thing in our committee, we've been campaigning on, as you've propepkw— been campaigning on, as you've probably noticed,— been campaigning on, as you've probably noticed, the day the

nenk— probably noticed, the day the nenk or— probably noticed, the day the nenk or-pwre- probably noticed, the day the bank of puts rates up, bank of england puts rates up, the bank of england puts rates up, we penke— bank of england puts rates up, we penke per— bank of england puts rates up, the banks put your mortgage up. but the banks put your mortgage up. on n— the banks put your mortgage up. on n wow-we— the banks put your mortgage up. per rr wow-we gor— the banks put your mortgage up. but if you've got any savings , but if you've got any savings, rnew— but if you've got any savings, rnew newen-r— but if you've got any savings, they haven't bothered to put wow— they haven't bothered to put wowr eewrnge— they haven't bothered to put your savings rate up. so all of woe— your savings rate up. so all of rnoee peopre— your savings rate up. so all of those people out— your savings rate up. so all of those people out there who've eerwerrw— those people out there who've actually perhaps— those people out there who've actually perhaps their actually perhaps paid off their nongege,— mortgage, they've got some eewnge— mortgage, they've got some eewrnge eno— mortgage, they've got some savings and they've been used to gerrrng— savings and they've been used to gerrrng nornrng— savings and they've been used to getting nothing on— savings and they've been used to getting nothing on those. the penke— getting nothing on those. the penke ee— getting nothing on those. the banks are sort— getting nothing on those. the banks are sort of— getting nothing on those. the banks are sort of saying, oh, wen,— banks are sort of saying, oh, war, wow— banks are sort of saying, oh, war, wow-eerw- banks are sort of saying, oh, well, you carry on getting well, you can carry on getting wnwekrw— well, you can carry on gettingl wnwekkw—kno virtually nothing on them. and we've campaigning try we've been campaigning to try eno— we've been campaigning to try ene-penke— we've been campaigning to try and-banks to- we've been campaigning to try and banks to increase and get the banks to increase rnoee— and get the banks to increase rnoee eewnge— and get the banks to increase those savings rates our those savings rates for our constituents— those savings rates for our constituents . _ those savings rates for our constituents . ” those savings rates for our- constituents . .your message in constituents. so your message in a in a sentence to those banks on those saving rates , yeah, on those saving rates, yeah, it'd be fair to your loyal customers. it's often the rowerrer— t it's often the loyalist customers, the ones who er-enr— loyalist customers, the ones who aren't comfortable _ loyalist customers, the ones who aren't comfortable moving money wrrn— aren't comfortable moving money wrrn en— aren't comfortable moving money across with an app,— aren't comfortable moving money across with an app, you know, we— across with an app, you know, we oee— across with an app, you know, we wno— across with an app, you know, the ones who can't find a single open— the ones who can't find a single open penk— the ones who can't find a single open bank branch— the ones who can't find a single open bank branch on the high erreer— open bank branch on the high street anymore— open bank branch on the high street anymore or, you know, who reek— street anymore or, you know, who reek werw— street anymore or, you know, who feel very uncomfortable while opening— feel very uncomfortable while openrng e— feel very uncomfortable while openrng e ne— feel very uncomfortable while opening a new bank account just for we— opening a new bank account just for we rere— opening a new bank account just for we rere r— opening a new bank account just for the rate i did— opening a new bank account just for the rate i did ask the winner— for the rate i did ask the minister about- for the rate i did ask the minister about this in the cornrnone— minister about this in the commons this— minister about this in the commons this week and he flagged up we— commons this week and he flagged up we reor— commons this week and he flagged wp rne reer rner— commons this week and he flagged up the fact that national eewnge— up the fact that national eewrnge wow— up the fact that national savings, you know, the premium pone— savings, you know, the premium pone-e— savings, you know, the premium pone-e tor— savings, you know, the premium pone-e tor of- savings, you know, the premium bond-a lot of those. bond products, a lot of those wnen— bond products, a lot of those. which—backed, which are government backed, rnew— which are government backed,

new-gooe— which are government backed, rnew-gooo rere- which are government backed, they-good rate of. they do offer a good rate of rnrereer. — they do offer a good rate of interest. so,— they do offer a good rate of interest. so, you— they do offer a good rate of interest. so, you know, for your rr-e— interest. so, you know, for your viewers, it's worth— interest. so, you know, for your viewers, it's worth looking at we— viewers, it's worth looking at rne—rnere- viewers, it's worth looking at rne—rnere ee- viewers, it's worth looking ati the _there as well. the opportunity there as well. rere— the opportunity there as well. rer-elpeek— the opportunity there as well. let's-back-talk- the opportunity there as well. let's back talk about let's go back and talk about wow— let's go back and talk about your experience— let's go back and talk about your experience in banking . '3r: your experience in banking. and your experience in banking. and wow rerkee— your experience in banking. and you talked about— your experience in banking. and you talked about maternity discrimination. yes. sexual harassment. misconduct. yes it's it was always been rife, neen-r— it's it was always been rife, neen-r n,— it's it was always been rife, neen-r n, n— it's it was always been rife, hasn't it, in in— it's it was always been rife, hasn't it, in in workplaces rne— hasn't it, in in workplaces across the land. - hasn't it, in in workplaces across the land. and you know, eenernkw— across the land. and you know, eenernkw ee— across the land. and you know, eenernkw ee e— across the land. and you know, certainly as a young woman , it certainly as a young woman, it nor— certainly as a young woman, it nor wner— certainly as a young woman, it was not what you'd think of as a werw— was not what you'd think of as a werw eonwerweo— was not what you'd think of as a very conducive kyiv_ was not what you'd think of as a very conducive kyiv work environment.— very conducive kyiv work environment. and i think we've rnre— environment. and i think we've even seen this week with the fee— even seen this week with the reer preekrng— even seen this week with the feet breaking and amazing story epowr— feet breaking and amazing story epowr cneprn— feet breaking and amazing story about crispin odey , you know about crispin odey, you know we— about crispin odey, you know we reekkw— about crispin odey, you know that really bad— about crispin odey, you know that really bad behaviour is etu— that really bad behaviour is still exists— that really bad behaviour is still exists in— that really bad behaviour is still exists in the financial eerweee— still exists in the financial services sector. _ still exists in the financial services sector. i'm sure it enere— services sector. i'm sure it enere r..— services sector. i'm sure it exists in other— services sector. i'm sure it exists in other sectors, but you know,— exists in other sectors, but you know, we— exists in other sectors, but you know, it's something that i've eenpergneo— know, it's something that i've campaigned all— know, it's something that i've campaigned all my life to try eno— campaigned all my life to try ene reekke— campaigned all my life to try and tackle and— campaigned all my life to try and tackle and trying to stamp rner— and tackle and trying to stamp me our— and tackle and trying to stamp me our ro— and tackle and trying to stamp that out to and— and tackle and trying to stamp that out to and remove that pewter— that out to and remove that barrier-succeed. that out to and remove thati barrier-succeed in that out to and remove that- barrier-succeed in that barrier to women succeed in that eeeonr— barrier to women succeed in that eeeonr cen— barrier to women succeed in that eeeonr cen wow— barrier to women succeed in that sector. can you think of any eoenpkeee — sector. can you think of any examples? you— sector. can you think of any examples? v/rt:r r:rt:r3 e : sector. can you think of any examples? v/rt:r : 3 e : sector. can you think of any- examples? you don't need to name names, obviously, but it was was it commonplace that would it so commonplace that you would know who was the purple know who was who was the purple traitor or the sort of the

wrong'un ? oh, god, it was just wrong'un? oh, god, it was just ewrw— wrong'un? oh, god, it was just ewrwk .— wrong'un? oh, god, it was just ewrwk . kno— wrong'un? oh, god, it was just ewrwk . ann wow— wrong'un? oh, god, it was just awful . and you know,- g e. 37 oh, god, it was just awful . and you know, i remember awful. and you know, i remember exempte— awful. and you know, i remember ekenpre, eo— awful. and you know, i remember one example, so i'm_ awful. and you know, i remember one example, so i'm in my mid eee.— one example, so i'm in my mid nee. r-n— one example, so i'm in my mid 20s. i'm working— one example, so i'm in my mid 20s. i'm working in— one example, so i'm in my mid 20s. i'm working in a trading eno— 20s. i'm working in a trading ene n— 20s. i'm working in a trading room and it had— 20s. i'm working in a trading room and it had been a very, werw— room and it had been a very, werw prew— room and it had been a very, werw pwew eew— room and it had been a very, werw pwew eew p..— room and it had been a very, very busy day in the market. and rnere-e— very busy day in the market. and rnere-e iner— very busy day in the market. and there's just myself— very busy day in the market. and there's just myself and the big toe— there's just myself and the big toe eno— there's just myself and the big boss and another— there's just myself and the big boss and another trader left in the boss and another trader left in we oeerrng— boss and another trader left in the dealing room— boss and another trader left in the dealing room and the big toe— the dealing room and the big toe wekke— the dealing room and the big boss walks through the dealing eno— boss walks through the dealing ene ne— boss walks through the dealing room and he goes, he's american. he room and he goes, he's american. we goee— room and he goes, he's american. we goee on— room and he goes, he's american. we goee on nw— room and he goes, he's american. he goes, oh my god,— room and he goes, he's american. he goes, oh my god, what a day. he goes, oh my god, what a day. we goee— he goes, oh my god, what a day. we goee n— he goes, oh my god, what a day. we goee n e— he goes, oh my god, what a day. he goes, it was like— he goes, oh my god, what a day. he goes, it was like a las vegas vow— he goes, it was like a las vegas casino. you know.— he goes, it was like a las vegas casino. you know. except the difference— casino. you know. except the difference is— casino. you know. except the difference is that— casino. you know. except the difference is that in a las vegee— difference is that in a las vegas casino,— difference is that in a las vegas casino, of course, the worko— vegas casino, of course, the women would wear short skirts . women would wear short skirts. kno— women would wear short skirts. ann ne— women would wear short skirts. ann ne eornee— women would wear short skirts. and he comes over— women would wear short skirts. and he comes over to me and he grwee— and he comes over to me and he grwee nw— and he comes over to me and he grwee nw ekrn— and he comes over to me and he grwee nw ekrn e— and he comes over to me and he gives my skirt a sort— and he comes over to me and he gives my skirt a sort of hoick . gives my skirt a sort of hoick. now— gives my skirt a sort of hoick. wow, wow— gives my skirt a sort of hoick. wow, wow know,— gives my skirt a sort of hoick. now, you know, obviously that eppekktng— now, you know, obviously that was appalling. and the thing we— was appalling. and the thing we ee— was appalling. and the thing that was really— was appalling. and the thing that was really detrimental epowr— that was really detrimental epowr n— that was really detrimental epowr rr re— that was really detrimental about it is that— that was really detrimental about it is that i never he was we— about it is that i never he was we pkg— about it is that i never he was rne prg poee— about it is that i never he was rne prg poee. r— about it is that i never he was the big boss. i never could look nin— the big boss. i never could look nrn r..— the big boss. i never could look trim in we— the big boss. i never could look him in the face— the big boss. i never could look him in the face ever again. it iner— him in the face ever again. it twer eo— him in the face ever again. it was just so humiliating . and was just so humiliating. and we— was just so humiliating. and we ee— was just so humiliating. and that was with— was just so humiliating. and that was with only one colleague werenrng.— that was with only one colleague werenrng. kno— that was with only one colleague watching. and so,— that was with only one colleague watching. and so, yeah, it was a reekrw— watching. and so, yeah, it was a really occasionally— watching. and so, yeah, it was a really occasionally unpleasant work— really occasionally unpleasant work environment . work environment. final geeeton— work environment. final

question. you've worked in two hostile environments for women. politics are getting better and finance, they are . they are, finance, they are. they are, which is the most hostile, which is the most work to do. well, it's been 15 years since i've worked in the financial sector, and i'm confident that despite this, crispin odey story, that, you know, by and large , things you know, by and large, things have got a lot better. and i think women— have got a lot better. and i think women have- have got a lot better. and i think women have got- grtt and i think women have got better at eerrrng— think women have got better at eekrrng owr— think women have got better at calling out that— think women have got better at calling out that kind of bad penewowr. — calling out that kind of bad behaviour. but— calling out that kind of bad behaviour. but and i think pokrrree— behaviour. but and i think politics actually is incredibly wereonrng— politics actually is incredibly welcoming to— politics actually is incredibly welcoming to women. i think that it welcoming to women. i think that rr re— welcoming to women. i think that rr re e— welcoming to women. i think that rr re e greer— welcoming to women. i think that it is a great career— welcoming to women. i think that it is a great career for a woman, a great second career for woman, a great second career for a woman, a great second career for r reekkw— woman, a great second career for a woman. i really encourage women who are— a woman. i really encourage women who are watching this to rnrnk— women who are watching this to rnrnk epowr— women who are watching this to think about it— women who are watching this to think about it as— women who are watching this to think about it as a— women who are watching this to think about it as a career peeewee— think about it as a career peeewee n— think about it as a career because it is— think about it as a career because it is just so rewarding to because it is just so rewarding ro neke— because it is just so rewarding ro neke e— because it is just so rewarding to make a difference for your eonnwnrrw— to make a difference for your community and— to make a difference for your community and to make a difference— community and to make a difference for— community and to make a difference for people in other wewe. — difference for people in other wewe. we— difference for people in other ways. it's been— difference for people in other ways. e 3 g ”rtr3e difference for people in other ways. e 3 g ways. it's been great to talk to you. i feel like you've made us all want to make a difference. your positivity and your energy and nonsense style. love and your no nonsense style. love it. baldwin , thank you. it. harriett baldwin, thank you. thank gloria, having me thank you, gloria, for having me on. thank you, gloria, for having me on—sowrn— thank you, gloria, for having me on._south yorkshire. on. coming up, south yorkshire wewor— on. coming up, south yorkshire

newor orrwer— on. coming up, south yorkshire mayor oliver coppard . 3r3r: mayor oliver coppard. i've had eeern— mayor oliver coppard. i've had death threats because of my religion, my ethnicity. i've had things said to me on social media, you know, fairly thick skinned. i don't particularly take much of that very seriously

oliver coppard, you elected a south - oliver coppard, you elected a south yorkshire _ . oliver coppard, you elected a south yorkshire mayor— oliver coppard, you elected a south yorkshire mayor last year. do south yorkshire mayor last year. no wow— south yorkshire mayor last year. no wow newe— south yorkshire mayor last year. do you have enough power? \rt:r do you have enough power? no, i eon-r— do you have enough power? no, i eon-r rnrnk— do you have enough power? no, i eon-r rnrnk enw— do you have enough power? no, i don't think any mayor in the country would say that they've got the powers, the control, the money that they would want. and i'm in that same boat. i think we're in a moment, aren't we, with devolution where we're seeing the two main parties? certainly the labour party competing for what more we can do for communities by devolving power to places like south yorkshire . so i definitely want yorkshire. so i definitely want more power , more control for my more power, more control for my community so we can do more in

south yorkshire to address the challenges that we face. like so many of the parts of this country, you are the first and only jewish mayor. what does that only jewish mayor. what does we neen— only jewish mayor. what does we ro— only jewish mayor. what does that mean to you?— only jewish mayor. what does that mean to you? do- what does that mean to you? do you feel krke— that mean to you? do you feel krke e— that mean to you? do you feel like a trailblazer?_ that mean to you? do you feel like a trailblazer? no. well, wer— like a trailblazer? no. well, we end— like a trailblazer? no. well, first and foremost, i'm south workenrre-e— first and foremost, i'm south yorkshire's mayor and so of course, i'm proud that now i can ereno— course, i'm proud that now i can ereno porn— course, i'm proud that now i can ereno porn ee— course, i'm proud that now i can stand both as a— course, i'm proud that now i can stand both as a labour mayor and a stand both as a labour mayor and erewren— stand both as a labour mayor and erewren peeon— stand both as a labour mayor and a jewish person in— stand both as a labour mayor and a jewish person in in this role . kne— a jewish person in in this role . ann r— a jewish person in in this role . ann r en— a jewish person in in this role . and i am proud— a jewish person in in this role . and i am proud of- a jewish person in in this role . and i am proud of that. of course, i'm proud of that. i'm proud of my community. i'm proud of my heritage. i'm proud of my family's story. but ultimately kwasi i'm here to serve my community and try and fix the problems that we face. and so my faith, my ethnicity is not really the dominant factor in that. of course, i'm here to serve everybody . but yeah, i'm serve everybody. but yeah, i'm proud of it. i'm absolutely proud of it. i'm absolutely proud of it because my family's story was a difficult one. so getting to where i am now, i think i hope i've made my family proud. tell think i hope i've made my family proud . tell me about your proud. tell me about your renrkw-e— proud. tell me about your renrkw-e erorw. — : tell me about your family's story. why was it difficult? _ family's story. why was it difficult? so— family's story. why was it difficult? g 3 family's story. why was it- difficult? so look , my gran came difficult? so look, my gran came here from czechoslovakia and she was smuggled out of the country.

essentially. we had family who worked on the railways and she was smuggled out of the country . my was from vienna . and my grandad was from vienna . he was finishing his medical degree when the well before the hostilities started. but when things started getting difficult for jewish people , he got out on forjewish people, he got out on a visa . my parents were reunited a visa. my parents were reunited in this country and then were interned on the isle of man, and then built their lives here in then built their lives here in the uk . they both became the uk. they both became teachers. my grandfather never finished his medical degree, couldn't finish his medical degree. they both became teachers serving their community first in halifax, then in birmingham. i believe . and my birmingham. i believe. and my parents, well , my mum became a parents, well, my mum became a teacher. my auntie became a teacher. my auntie became a teacher. my auntie became a teacher. my sister's a teacher. so i think we've got a history of public service. i hope in my family . and i think that comes family. and i think that comes from my family wanting to give back to give back to this country , to our communities, country, to our communities, because ultimately this country gave my family safe haven when

not a lot of people would . have not a lot of people would. have you ever been subject- not a lot of people would. have you ever been subject to- you ever been subject to knrreenrr— you ever been subject to antisemit ism? you ever been subject to- antisemit ism? i have. i've had i've had death threats because of my religion, my ethnicity . of my religion, my ethnicity. i've had things said to me on social media, you know, fairly thick skinned. i don't particularly take much of that very seriously . i think we are very seriously. i think we are facing a difficult time in this country because of anti—semitism and jewish people .jewish and jewish people. jewish communities, i think, are acutely aware of a rising tide of anti—semites ism, not just here. actually, to be fair, across the world, the labour party certainly struggled with anti—semitism . indeed, there anti—semitism. indeed, there have been instances, i have to say, of anti—semitism from presenters on this channel. and so it is difficult for jewish people . but frankly, i don't let people. but frankly, i don't let it bother me. i don't let it stop me from doing what it is. i think i'm here to do, which is serve my community and try and fix some of the problems that we face. do you see allegations of anti—semitism _ t do you see allegations of anti—semitism about on anti—semitism on about on preeenrere— anti—semitism on about on preeenrere on— anti—semitism on about on presenters on this channel?

were— presenters on this channel? war. rook.— presenters on this channel? well, look, i've— presenters on this channel? well, look, i've certainly heard things from presenters on this channel. i've them say channel. i've heard them say things consider things which i would consider to indulge anti semitic tropes indulge in anti semitic tropes andifs indulge in anti semitic tropes and it's not the only place where i hear that. i hear that all over the place. and i hear that on social media. i hear that on social media. i hear that from people who you wouldn't always expect. those people deny, wouldn't always expect. those people - deny, would, - wouldn't always expect. those. people - deny, would, would people would deny, would, would dent/r — people would deny, would, would dent/r wowe— people would deny, would, would denyr wowe nenw.— people would deny, would, would deny, would deny. they would for the deny, would deny. they would for rne—wowro. - deny, would deny. they would for the—would. you- the record, they would. you know,— the record, they would. youi know,_freedom the record, they would. you. know,_freedom of know, we welcome freedom of epeeen. — know, we welcome freedom of epeeen. .or— know, we welcome freedom of speech. .of course,- know, we welcome freedom of speech. of course, you are speech. and of course, you are free— speech. and of course, you are free ro— speech. and of course, you are free ro eew— speech. and of course, you are free to say that— speech. and of course, you are free to say that .— speech. and of course, you are free to say that . so you stood free to say that. so you stood to free to say that. so you stood ro pe— free to say that. so you stood ro be e— free to say that. so you stood to be a labourer— free to say that. so you stood to be a labourer mp in sheffield.— to be a labourer mp in sheffield. you stood against wok— sheffield. you stood against wrek cregg.— sheffield. you stood against nick clegg. you— sheffield. you stood against nick clegg. you came close to winning— nick clegg. you came close to winning rne— nick clegg. you came close to winning the seat.— nick clegg. you came close to winning the seat. you did that in zero.— winning the seat. you did that in zero. vow— winning the seat. you did that in 2015. you didn't stand in zero— in 2015. you didn't stand in new wnen— in 2015. you didn't stand in 2017 when labour actually did win— 2017 when labour actually did win rne— 2017 when labour actually did win rne eeer— 2017 when labour actually did win the seat from nick clegg. why— win the seat from nick clegg. wnw own-r— win the seat from nick clegg. wnw eren-r wow— win the seat from nick clegg. why didn't you stand again? r: why didn't you stand again? i'd committee— why didn't you stand again? i'd connnnrree r— why didn't you stand again? i'd committed i had— why didn't you stand again? i'd committed i had a— why didn't you stand again? i'd committed i had a job.- why didn't you stand again? i'd committed i had a job. so- why didn't you stand again? i'd committed i had a job. so i- committed i had a job. so i mean, look, i stood i stood for election . i was a candidate for election. i was a candidate for two years, 2013 to 2015. it's my home seat, sheffield hallam. it's where i was born. and raised, born here, raised here.

working to be your next mp was my a my slogan and i was very proud of that campaign. i think we ran it in the right way. it was a community based campaign. we had hundreds of volunteers in a that had never a place that had never had a labour mp before. and yeah, we ran nick clegg really close and i'm proud of that. but in i'm very proud of that. but in 2017, life had moved on, had 2017, my life had moved on, had actually to london. i'd actually moved to london. i'd got for charity, got a job working for a charity, giving kids and giving books away to kids and i'd promised my boss. she'd asked me, you know, are you just going run away? at the first going to run away? at the first opportunity try and opportunity and go and try and be mp again? and i said i'd be an mp again? and i said i'd absolutely not, because i took theresa word. she'd theresa may at her word. she'd said going to be no said there was going to be no snap election i believed snap election and i believed her. quite honestly, her. and quite honestly, i wasn't that i wanted to go wasn't sure that i wanted to go into parliament after the experience had. it was experience that i'd had. it was brilliant. i loved it. i loved every moment it. but politics every moment of it. but politics has be all and has never been the be all and end all for me. it's something that's been on, i think, in me all life, i've never all my life, but i've never always been. haven't always always been. i haven't always been you didn't stand been in that. you didn't stand peeewee— been in that. you didn't stand peeewee wow— been in that. you didn't stand because you could— been in that. you didn't stand because you could not- 3 you didn't stand because you could not stand unner— because you could not stand under-corbyn- because you could not stand under corbyn because of under jeremy corbyn because of the anti—semitism _ under jeremy corbyn because of the anti—semitism erm crisis in

the anti—semitism erm crisis in rne-er— the anti—semitism erm crisis in rne-er-rrne- the anti—semitism erm crisis in the-at-time as- the anti—semitism erm crisis in the at time as well. the party at the time as well. in the party at the time as well. n zone— the party at the time as well. n zore r— the party at the time as well. in 2019 i made— the party at the time as well. in 2019 i made that— the party at the time as well. in 2019 i made that choice so i publicly said i didn't think i could in good faith, put myself forward to be a labour mp when the labour party was not tackling the anti—semitism that we saw for so clearly in our own ranks . and i couldn't put myself ranks. and i couldn't put myself up and genuinely stand on a doorstep, knock on a door and tell people at that point that in good faith i thought there were no problems with anti—semitism or that the labour party had tackled the issue sufficient . well, so i made that sufficient. well, so i made that clear. i made that public because i did think we still had a long way to go. and i'm really pleased that now, as i say, look, i'm a mayor in south yorkshire. i've put myself forward to be the mayor of south yorkshire for the labour party because i do that have because i do think that we have come a long way in a really short space of time. there is always do, but keir has always work to do, but keir has stuck to word. keir starmer stuck to his word. keir starmer has stuck to and he has stuck to his word and he has, think, ripped out has, i think, ripped out anti—semitism its roots in anti—semitism by its roots in

the party. that's the labour party. and that's hard. that's a hard thing to do. and keir has i think, been true to his it is always easy to his word. it is always easy to his word. it is always easy to tell people you don't like your opponents in politics that they're doing the wrong thing. it's harder , much harder to tell it's harder, much harder to tell your friends that they're not doing the right thing . i'd like doing the right thing. i'd like to think that's what i did in 2000, 19, and it's certainly what we're now doing in the labour party as a matter of course, it's not okay to be anti—semitic and it's certainly not to be anti—semitic and not okay to be anti—semitic and be now be in the labour party. now you've tackling health you've made tackling health inequalities yorkshire inequalities in south yorkshire your priority. tell about your big priority. tell me about rnoee— your big priority. tell me about those inequalities— your big priority. tell me about those inequalities . _ your big priority. tell me about those inequalities . so- ” tr; car tell me about those inequalities . those inequalities. so look, spurn— those inequalities. so look, south yorkshire has like like loads of places actually has dreadful health inequalities . a dreadful health inequalities. a baby born in rotherham today is likely to lead a life that is five years shorter than a baby born in richmond. in london, there is a 20 year healthy life expectancy gap, so when you get to ill, frankly, to work and all too many people in south yorkshire reach that stage about 55, 56, 57 in our wealthier

parts, the wealthier parts of our communities , 75, 76, 78. so our communities, 75, 76, 78. so those health inequalities have plagued south yorkshire , a plagued south yorkshire, a post—industrial community, all too many parts of south yorkshire. there are long standing health challenges and for all too long we put it in this box to mark difficult too hard to fix. and i'm determined that we're going to take it out of that box and try and do something about it. of that box and try and do something about it . the month something about it. the month that i became mayor and i was 40 years old and one of my best friends from school, years old and one of my best friends from school , the most friends from school, the most talented runner of his generation. i don't think that's an exaggeration. ian. he's a somali refugee , came here when somali refugee, came here when he was nine. it's called idris ahmed, and he used to post faster times than mo farah at the same age. he won the south yorkshire cross country championships , starting in the championships, starting in the changing rooms when everybody else had already started the race. he came second in the country, not doing a day of training in his life and he died

the month that i became mayor and he was one of my best friends and that is a story that is all too for common all too many people in places like south yorkshire. and so , yes, it's yorkshire. and so, yes, it's difficult. yes, it's hard , but difficult. yes, it's hard, but we're going to try. why did he die? how did he die? he had a heart problem. he had a heart problem. when he was a kid. it it's one of the reasons why he stopped running because his family couldn't navigate it. the systems services that all systems and services that all too many of us take for granted, albeit at moment, albeit maybe not at the moment, but nhs is there to serve us but the nhs is there to serve us all. all too many people all. and yet all too many people can't in the way that can't access it in the way that they should be able and so they should be able to. and so idris, family were one of idris, his family were one of those couldn't those families that couldn't navigate didn't get the navigate the nhs, didn't get the help and support that they needed, help and support needed, the help and support that he never got that he needed. so he never got the treatment have, the treatment that would have, i hope at i think have hope at least i think have stopped him from passing away at such he left behind such a young age. he left behind kids who who i still know and kids who i who i still know and he was a talented athlete . he he was a talented athlete. he had his own. he had his

problems, but he was a talented athlete and he should have been athlete and he should have been a world class athlete who went to olympics and represented to the olympics and represented our yet died . our country. and yet he died. and that is not a common story, but it's certainly not a story that we don't hear from other people all in south yorkshire and other parts of our country because health inequalities are endemic in all too many of our communities. and so i have said south yorkshire is going to be the healthiest region in the country. that is not a small goal country. that is not a small goal. that is a massive challenge. it's to challenge. it's going to take a system wide effort for us to try and goal and it and hit that goal and it probably won't happen in my time as can certainly as mayor, but i can certainly start on that journey and start us on that journey and i can certainly lift that problem out of too hard box. oliver out of too the hard box. oliver coppard, south yorkshire- 3r3”r: oliver coppard, south yorkshire mayor, rnenk— thank you very much. thank you. rnenke—wow- thanks for watching. see you new— thanks for watching. see you new swnoew— thanks for watching. see you next sunday at— thanks for watching. see you next sunday at six ulez . hello next sunday at six ulez. hello rnere. — next sunday at six ulez. hello rnere. rm— next sunday at six ulez. hello there. i'm jonathan- next sunday at six ulez. hello there. 3 there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some of us may have seen

some lightning strikes and heard a few rumbles of thunder to end sunday. it's all due to this area low pressure that has area of low pressure that has sat to the of the uk. sat just to the west of the uk. but it's bringing unsettled conditions across areas and conditions across many areas and we continue to see some of we will continue to see some of those thunderstorms track northwards we head throughout northwards as we head throughout the sunday evening. the rest of sunday evening. increasingly though, into the overnight period, less the overnight period, it's less the thunder more this band thunder and more this band of heavy rain that becomes our issue. tracking across northern england . again, england into scotland. again, some rain around half a some heavy rain around half a month's worth of rainfall for some areas cause some some areas could cause some surface water issues turning dner surface water issues turning drier the south of that drier to the south of that through the early of through the early hours of monday morning. of our monday morning. most of our towns cities holding up towns and cities holding up around so relatively around 15, 16 c. so a relatively mild the new working mild start to the new working week, but it's going to be a wet one across scotland with that rain gradually tracking its way northwards begin the northwards, drier to begin the day everywhere else, but day for everywhere else, but increasingly afternoon increasingly into the afternoon , again see a scattering , we'll again see a scattering of heavy showers developing, some also some thunderstorms also possible, bit more possible, but a bit more sunshine in between those showers monday and in that showers on monday and in that sunshine, temperatures sunshine, we'll see temperatures

climbing 20 to 26 c climbing to highs of 20 to 26 c into monday evening. those showers will gradually clear their way off. it will take some time for parts of northern ireland, western scotland, but generally into tuesday morning, it turn drier here well it will turn drier here as well . another humid night for many of and fog of us. some mist and fog forming. into tuesday , we're forming. but into tuesday, we're then this area of heavy then watching this area of heavy rain start rain that's going to start pushing in the south. there pushing in from the south. there is still some uncertainty in regards the exact details of regards to the exact details of this. up to date with this. so do stay up to date with the forecast, but we are expecting it to generally push northwards again with some heavy expecting it to generally push nortithunderstormsth some heavy expecting it to generally push nortithunderstormsth tmeanwhile rain, thunderstorms as meanwhile for northern ireland and scotland, whilst the day will start drier, we also see start drier, we could also see some thunderstorms developing start drier, we could also see some tthe derstorms developing start drier, we could also see some tthe afternoon.developing start drier, we could also see some tthe afternoon.deveofping during the afternoon. all of that that area of low that due to that area of low pressure, but it is eventually moving away to the north and east, allowing this ridge of high pressure its way high pressure to build its way in for thursday. so as in through for thursday. so as we the next few days, we go over the next few days, generally the showers will become intense

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