way. i'm way.- i i'm ray way. i'm ray addison. in the gb news room. - i'm ray addison. in the gb news . i'm ray addison. in the gb news room. free-nation— room. free speech nation is coming—first] room. free speech nation is. coming—first, the coming right up. but first, the latest— coming right up. but first, the latest-and-topl latest headlines and our top story.— latest headlines and our top stem-met— latest headlines and our top stem-met-savsl latest headlines and our topi story,-met-says it's story, the met police says it's aware new footage showing aware of new footage showing conservative— aware of new footage showing conservative staff— aware of new footage showing conservative staff partying during— conservative staff partying during lockdown and joking about cowo— during lockdown and joking about covid restrictions— during lockdown and joking about covid restrictions and is considering— covid restrictions and is considering it.- covid restrictions and is considering it. michael gove, the— considering it. michael gove, the levelling— considering it. michael gove, the levelling up— considering it. michael gove, the levelling up secretary, has apologised— the levelling up secretary, has apologised .— the levelling up secretary, has apologised , describing the apologised, describing the behaviour— apologised, describing the behaviour as— apologised, describing the behaviour as unacceptable while in the— behaviour as unacceptable while in the footage— behaviour as unacceptable while in the footage obtained by the mirror.— in the footage obtained by the mirror. tory— in the footage obtained by the mirror, tory staff— in the footage obtained by the mirror, tory staff can be seen ignoring— mirror, tory staff can be seen ignoring social— mirror, tory staff can be seen ignoring social distancing rules imposed— ignoring social distancing rules imposed by— ignoring social distancing rules imposed by de— ignoring social distancing rules imposed by the government at the height— imposed by the government at the iieidiii oi— imposed by the government at the iieidiii of die— imposed by the government at the height of the pandemic. two of the height of the pandemic. two of die ze— height of the pandemic. two of die ze peopie— height of the pandemic. two of the 24 people at— height of the pandemic. two of the 24 people at that christmas party— the 24 people at that christmas poww wee— the 24 people at that christmas poww idiei— the 24 people at that christmas party were later named in boris johnson-s— party were later named in boris johnson's resignation honours list johnson's resignation honours iisi .— johnson's resignation honours iisi . iii— johnson's resignation honours iisi . iii dowe— johnson's resignation honours list . mr gove told johnson's resignation honours list. mr gove told us disciplinary- list. mr gove told us disciplinary action has already been— disciplinary action has already been depen— disciplinary action has already been taken . — disciplinary action has already been taken . the— disciplinary action has already been taken . " disciplinary action has already been taken . been taken. the reason why those steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the disease in order to make sure that the pressures on the nhs were manageable in order to make sure

that we could treat people who were very ill. so again, the actions here are deeply distressing and i can only apologise to people that individuals behaved in this way . my understanding is that there was an investigation into the party when the photograph emerged and people were disciplined. well, emerged and people were disciplined . well, mps will disciplined. well, mps will deioie— disciplined. well, mps will deioie dw— i: edi “ci: well, mps will debate any possible punishment for debate any possible punishment ioi pods— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson tomorrow after he ws— for boris johnson tomorrow after he iodid— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to have misled ioiiiomeni— he was found to have misled parliament over— he was found to have misled parliament over partygate and the privileges— parliament over partygate and the privileges committee recommend _ the privileges committee recommend that the former prime iiinisiei— recommend that the former prime minister should— recommend that the former prime minister should face a 90 day sspension— minister should face a 90 day suspension. had— minister should face a 90 day suspension. had he not already resigned— suspension. had he not already resigned in— suspension. had he not already resigned in advance of that iwdgeneni— resigned in advance of that iwdgeneni .— resigned in advance of that judgement. now it's resigned in advance of that judgement . now it's understood judgement. now it's understood indi— judgement. now it's understood ind nis— judgement. now it's understood that his supporters are being encouraged— that his supporters are being encouraged to— that his supporters are being encouraged to abstain . but encouraged to abstain. but ionnei— encouraged to abstain. but former brexit_ encouraged to abstain. but former brexit secretary david news— former brexit secretary david news ioid — former brexit secretary david davis told camilla tominey he wiii— davis told camilla tominey he wiii swppon— davis told camilla tominey he will support the _ davis told camilla tominey he will support the committee . cm; will support the committee. one of will support the committee. one oi ine— will support the committee. one of the wings— will support the committee. one of the things about— will support the committee. one of the things about parliament is it's the highest court in the land that creates a problem when you're coming to privileges. what's that problem? it's like having a village. having a trial in a village.

everybody knows everybody. yeah, nobody is entirely unbiased . nobody is entirely unbiased. how do they know his own mind nobody is entirely unbiased. - how do they know his own mind at the how do they know his own mind at we dined— how do they know his own mind at we dnee inew— how do they know his own mind at the time? they don't— how do they know his own mind at the time? they don't have to. win— the time? they don't have to. wind inep— the time? they don't have to. what they know— the time? they don't have to. what they know is— the time? they don't have to. what they know is what- the time? they don't have to. what they know is what he knows . if you if you go to a party, you know it was a party you don't need an advisor to tell you the death toll caused by flooding following the destruction of ukraine's kakhovka dam has now risen to 45, with moscow reporting 29 fatalities in russian held areas. the breaching of the dam in eddy— areas. the breaching of the dam in eddy inne— the breaching of the dam in early june unleashed floodwaters_ in early june unleashed floodwaters across southern ukraine.— floodwaters across southern ukraine, including areas occupied— ukraine, including areas oeewpied py— ukraine, including areas occupied by russian forces. it's deswowed— occupied by russian forces. it's destroyed land— occupied by russian forces. it's destroyed land and cut off access to supplies, kyiv says inan— access to supplies, kyiv says more than 3600— access to supplies, kyiv says more than 3600 people have been evacuated— more than 3600 people have been evacuated .— more than 3600 people have been evacuated , while— more than 3600 people have been evacuated , while 31— more than 3600 people have been evacuated , while 31 are still evacuated, while 31 are still missing— evacuated, while 31 are still missing .— evacuated, while 31 are still missing . 0n— evacuated, while 31 are still missing . on tv— evacuated, while 31 are still missing . on tv online on dab+ missing. on tv online on dab+ ndio— missing. on tv online on dab+ nodio end— missing. on tv online on dab+ radio and on— missing. on tv online on dab+ radio and on. tune— missing. on tv online on dab+ radio and on. tune in to this is gb radio and on. tune in to this is on news.— radio and on. tune in to this is gb news. back— radio and on. tune in to this is gb news. back now to free speech deion— gb news. back now to free speech

wodon .— nation. tory staffers deion— tory staffers dance very doiion. — tory staffers dance very poorly. audion— tory staffers dance very poorly. authors cancel— tory staffers dance very poorly. authors cancel their— tory staffers dance very poorly. authors cancel their own - tory staffers dance very poorly. authors cancel their own books and starbucks pay out millions after sacking someone for being white. this is free speech nafion white. this is free speech nation . hello, welcome to free nation. hello, welcome to free speech nation with me josh howie standing in for andrew doyle this is the show where we take a look at culture, current affairs and politics. and of course, we'll have the latest from those lovable culture warriors . how lovable culture warriors. how civilisation survive for thousands of years before their very welcome intervention remains a mystery. coming up on tonight's show, we have louis oakley, co—host of the bisexual brunch podcast. that's a mouthful. will be here to discuss a report that suggests britain is becoming more sexually fluid . journalist laura sexually fluid. journalist laura dodsworth will join us and we'll

ask her why elizabeth gilbert, the author, felt compelled to pubush the author, felt compelled to publish not to publish her latest book just because it's set in russia. brilliant journalist and campaigner michael shellenberger will talk us about a free speech event he's involved in next week with russell brand, amongst others, and of course, myself. my fantastic panel will be answering questions from our wonderful studio audience. all that and much, much more tonight on free speech nation . and on free speech nation. and there's no clap there. i thought there's no clap there. i thought there was. i made a mistake. welcome i yes. yay . there was. i made a mistake. welcome i yes. yay. he's iniowind— welcome i yes. yay. he's throwing down.- f «wilt? yay. he's throwing down. wonderful let's just throwing down. wonderful let's iwsi sow— throwing down. wonderful let's iwsi sow indi— throwing down. wonderful let's just say that when i go off at ine— just say that when i go off at we end— just say that when i go off at we end on— just say that when i go off at we end of d— just say that when i go off at the end of a sentence, it's time for on— the end of a sentence, it's time ion on oppiowse— the end of a sentence, it's time for an applause . _ the end of a sentence, it's time for an applause . for an applause. that's normally how you approach a comedy, isn't exactly it. you don't actually worry about the jokes. just go off at the end of— worry about the jokes. just go off at the end of the- just go off at the end of the sentence onwwow— off at the end of the sentence onwwow .— off at the end of the sentence anyway . ny— off at the end of the sentence anyway , my studio guests this anyway, my studio guests this evening— anyway, my studio guests this evening one— anyway, my studio guests this evening are christa wetton and nones— evening are christa wetton and francis foster— evening are christa wetton and francis foster globsec every iiine. — francis foster globsec every iiine. now— francis foster globsec every time. how are— francis foster globsec every time. how are you guys doing? nones— time. how are you guys doing? francis lovely— time. how are you guys doing? francis lovely to _ time. how are you guys doing? francis lovely to see that wow-e— francis lovely to see that you're dressing- francis lovely to see that you're dressing up here and it wowid— you're dressing up here and it wowid pe— you're dressing up here and it would be nice— you're dressing up here and it would be nice if— you're dressing up here and it would be nice if you'd made an

eiioni— would be nice if you'd made an eiion. nui— would be nice if you'd made an effort. but anyway,— would be nice if you'd made an effort. but anyway, sorry, you sowid— effort. but anyway, sorry, you sowid newe— effort. but anyway, sorry, you could have got— effort. but anyway, sorry, you could have got your tats out dike— could have got your tats out like francis— could have got your tats out like francis has— could have got your tats out like francis has got here proving— like francis has got here pnowinp nis— like francis has got here proving his masculinity there. vow— proving his masculinity there. you ioow— proving his masculinity there. you ioow wen— proving his masculinity there. you look very nice. how are you doing.— you look very nice. how are you doing, preston?— you look very nice. how are you doing, preston? yeah. \. itizi; can doing, preston? yeah. nice day dwind— doing, preston? yeah. nice day having lovely finally. having a lovely day. finally. we've that's we've got some rain. that's exciting, isn't it? after all this sun. well, this relentless sun. well, addams family,- " well, addams family, your favourite in— addams family, your favourite iiin-wpi — addams family, your favourite iiin-wpi wo- addams family, your favourite iiin-wpi we .- addams family, your favourite- film-up? no , no. okay, film growing up? no, no. okay, iine— film growing up? no, no. okay, iine. inani— film growing up? no, no. okay, fine. thank you— film growing up? no, no. okay, fine. thank you very— film growing up? no okay, fine. thank you very much. and wow-we— fine. thank you very much. and wow-we ieen— fine. thank you very much. and you've been away,— fine. thank you very much. and you've been away, haven't you? yes. — you've been away, haven't you? yes. i— you've been away, haven't you? yes. i-osio— you've been away, haven't you? yes. i-osio ni— you've been away, haven't you? yes. 1-0le at the- yes. i was in oslo at the freedom forum. it was good. thank you telling us so much thank you for telling us so much about francis. about that, francis. it sounds a bit right wing, doesn't it? it's the foster yeah, the most. francis foster yeah, ween— the most. francis foster yeah, ween . — the most. francis foster yeah, yeah . wise— the most. francis foster yeah, yeah . die is— the most. francis foster yeah, yeah . nice to see- francis foster yeah, yeah . \. itizi; let's see yeah. nice to see you. let's see oi— yeah. nice to see you. let's see oi inose— yeah. nice to see you. let's see more of those tattoos— yeah. \. itizi; let's see more of those tattoos under inde— more of those tattoos under ineie. wo— more of those tattoos under there. no, baby.— more of those tattoos under there. no, baby. first of all, as there. no, baby. first of all, os—iei-sl there. no, baby. first of all,l os—iei-s dei as tradition dictates, let's get some questions— as tradition dictates, let's get some questions from the die — some questions from the. audience. -question audience. our first question is iron— audience. our first question is iron nonwi. — audience. our first question is from darryl. ”g : from darryl. hello, everybody. so why do the tories only bring sorry, why do the tories only seem to hire terrible dancers ? seem to hire terrible dancers? yeah. there are three certainties- yeah. there are three certainties in life death, taxes end— certainties in life death, taxes and revelations— certainties in life death, taxes and revelations about tories partying— and revelations about tories ponwing dwind— and revelations about tories partying during lockdown. nowsind— partying during lockdown. housing secretary michael gove has housing secretary michael gove nos ieen— housing secretary michael gove has been forced— housing secretary michael gove has been forced to— housing secretary michael gove has been forced to apologise oiien— has been forced to apologise oiiei ine— has been forced to apologise after the mirror— has been forced to apologise after the mirror released iooidde— after the mirror released footage last— after the mirror released footage last night showing tory ooiiwisis— footage last night showing tory activists dancing— footage last night showing tory activists dancing at a party in

cnnisinos— activists dancing at a party in christmas 2020.— activists dancing at a party in christmas 2020. while the nation was christmas 2020. while the nation in— christmas 2020. while the nation was in lockdown. _ christmas 2020. while the nation was in lockdown. the conservatives say four people nowe — conservatives say four people nowe ieen— conservatives say four people have been disciplined for the eeni— have been disciplined for the event, though— have been disciplined for the event, though probably for not the event, though probably for not ine dwoiiiw— event, though probably for not ine dwoiiw oi— event, though probably for not the quality of the dancing . wow. the quality of the dancing. wow. wnoi— the quality of the dancing. wow. wnoi do— the quality of the dancing. wow. wnoi do wow— the quality of the dancing. wow. what do you think— the quality of the dancing. wow. what do you think about that? i ine— what do you think about that? i mean, the dancing— what do you think about that? i mean, the dancing for- what do you think about that? i mean, the dancing for me- what do you think about that? i mean, the dancing for me was the worst part of it. it was absolutely despicable. look how angry these people are. yeah, they don't care about- mg yeah, they don't care about covid and ioowdowns. — they don't care about covid and ioowdowns. wo— they don't care about covid and lockdowns. no _ they don't care about covid and lockdowns. no at— they don't care about covid and lockdowns. no p lockdowns. no at one point, they nearly into to look it. nearly went into to look at it. look at it . listen, if she went look at it. listen, if she went home with him afterwards and i'm saying she's got no standards and she deserves to be excommunicated from politics. absolutely vile. i know. for me, though, it's absolutely vile. i know. for me, inowpn, ii-s ine— absolutely vile. i know. for me, though, it's the braces,- absolutely vile. i know. for me, though, it's the braces, as- digs p for me, though, it's the braces, as that is ine— though, it's the braces, as that is we indw— though, it's the braces, as that is the truly unforgiving thing. i is the truly unforgiving thing. i wani— is the truly unforgiving thing. i wnni io— is the truly unforgiving thing. i want to know— is the truly unforgiving thing. i want to know what- is the truly unforgiving thing. i want to know what music is playing at this point. that's a sad thing. they're— playing at this point. that's a sad thing. they're not- g that's a sad thing. they're not even ineie-s— sad thing. they're not even needs no— sad thing. they're not even there's no music. that's what ionies— there's no music. that's what ionies die— there's no music. that's what tories are like— there's no music. that's what tories are like when they get iodeinen — tories are like when they get iopeinen ids— tories are like when they get together. it's very dup that's ion — together. it's very dup that's ion ween.— together. it's very dup that's far. yeah. and— together. it's very dup that's far. yeah. and i— together. it's very dup that's far. yeah. and i but- together. it's very dup that's far. / ' i: c together. it's very dup that's far. i/izium ' i: c far. yeah. and i but it was a version with the problematic bits kept in. it was lovely. inis— bits kept in. it was lovely. we is— bits kept in. it was lovely. this is when— bits kept in. it was lovely. this is when they- " it was lovely. this is when they first hooked up. inew-we — this is when they first hooked up. they've no— this is when they first hooked up. they've now got a two year odd.— up. they've now got a two year oid. ween— up. they've now got a two year oid. ween — up. they've now got a two year oid. ween ii— up. they've now got a two year old. yeah it was— up. they've now got a two year old. yeah c f : old. yeah it was consummated that night. yeah. does this,

does this make you angry? cresta it does make me angry, ini— cresta it does make me angry, iwi ii— cresta it does make me angry, iwi ii diso— cresta it does make me angry, but it also makes— cresta it does make me angry, but it also makes me laugh, wnion— but it also makes me laugh, wnion is— but it also makes me laugh, wnion is o— but it also makes me laugh, which is a strange emotion, isn-i— which is a strange emotion, pm i.— which is a strange emotion, em in io— which is a strange emotion, isn't it, to be— which is a strange emotion, isn't it, to be angry and deepening— isn't it, to be angry and laughing-the- isn't it, to be angry and laughing the same time you're laughing at the same time you're a laughing at the same time you're o-pioioiiw— laughing at the same time you're a probably happens to a parent. it probably happens to you a parent. it probably happens to wow-ine— a parent. it probably happens to wow-ine ine— a parent. it probably happens to wow-ine iiine. i— a parent. it probably happens to you the time. i don't know. you all the time. i don't know. it you all the time. i don't know. ii reminds— you all the time. i don't know. it reminds me— you all the time. i don't know. it reminds me of.— you all the time. i don't know. it reminds me of. well, we keep seeing—johnson. seeing clips of boris johnson jogging— seeing clips of boris johnson jogging moment, don't we? jogging at the moment, don't we? nes— jogging at the moment, don't we? ne-s—ne— jogging at the moment, don't we? ne-s—neiods - jogging at the moment, don't we? ne-s—ne does no- he's not very. his he jogs. he jugs— he's not very. his he jogs. he pops dike— he's not very. his he jogs. he pops iiie they— he's not very. his he jogs. he jogs like they dance. - he's not very. his he jogs. it; g c :f he's just jogs like they dance. he's just like, jogs like they dance. he's just up, exooiiw— jogs like they dance. he's just like, exactly, yeah.— jogs like they dance. he's just like, exactly, yeah. yeah,- g c :f he's just like, exactly, yeah. yeah, very neon. — like, exactly, yeah. yeah, very neon. nui— like, exactly, yeah. yeah, very neon. nwi oi— like, exactly, yeah. yeah, very much. but of course, it makes me ondw. — much. but of course, it makes me ondw. i— much. but of course, it makes me onpw. i neon— much. but of course, it makes me angry. i mean, almost as angry. i mean, it's almost as inowdn— angry. i mean, it's almost as though—think- angry. i mean, it's almost as though—think it. angry. i mean, it's almost as. though _think it was though they didn't think it was as though they didn't think it was os dondenows— though they didn't think it was as dangerous as— though they didn't think it was as dangerous as they were ieiiind— as dangerous as they were ieiiind-wos. - as dangerous as they were telling was. that's crazy telling us it was. that's crazy ioiw. — telling us it was. that's crazy ioiw. -weon— telling us it was. that's crazy talk. -yeah, but- telling us it was. that's crazy talk. -yeah, but the. talk. well, yeah, but the question i guess, is question is now, i guess, is first of all, because when the police already investigate this and they give out, and they didn't give out, i believe, or whatever, and they didn't give out, i beliewe or whatever, and they didn't give out, i beliewe have or whatever, and they didn't give out, i beliewe have actual whatever, and they didn't give out, i beliewe have actual footage. r, and they didn't give out, i beliewe have actual footage. are now we have actual footage. are they reopen the they going to reopen the investigation? i believe investigation? and i believe two of on the video are of the people on the video are also up for honours. so there are questions, services to lockdown. well, the lockdown. well, that's the argument . but i guess, do you argument. but i guess, do you think that too much time has passed? think that that passed? do you think that that people are really going to see this or is this through this time, or is it that to on now? that people want to move on now? i think there's a lot of people

wno— i think there's a lot of people wno oe— i think there's a lot of people who are still— i think there's a lot of people who are still incredibly angry oiowi— who are still incredibly angry oiowi ins.— who are still incredibly angry about this. you— who are still incredibly angry about this. you have to remember inoi— about this. you have to remember inoi-oowidn-i— about this. you have to remember that-couldn't go- about this. you have to remember that-couldn't go to- that people couldn't go to iwnenois. — that people couldn't go to funerals. couldn't that people couldn't go to funerals. -couldn't and funerals. people couldn't go and see loved ones. there were peopie— see loved ones. there were. peopie—oeiwoiiw see loved ones. there were- peopie—oeiwoiiw do people who couldn't actually go and people who couldn't actually go ond—wno- people who couldn't actually go and—who were- people who couldn't actually go and—who were in. and see relatives who were in oonewo-n— and see relatives who were in ooewo-n inen- care homes, who then subsequently passed away as a resin— subsequently passed away as a neswiilieind— subsequently passed away as a result.being.their- subsequently passed away as a result being their own and result of being on their own and being— result of being on their own and being completely— result of being on their own and being completely isolated. then soneinind— something needs to happen ieoowse—ioil something needs to happen. because—lot of because there is still a lot of rancour. are people who rancour. there are people who won— rancour. there are people who wononi-— rancour. there are people who wononi- idi- rancour. there are people who want-on, but i- rancour. there are people who want on, but i think the want to move on, but i think the peopie— want to move on, but i think the peopie wno— want to move on, but i think the peopie wno dosi— want to move on, but i think the people who lost loved ones or swo- ioniiw- saw friends or family deteriorate - saw friends or family deteriorate a result of deteriorate as a result of ioewdowns— deteriorate as a result of lockdowns want kind of lockdowns want some kind of insiioe— lockdowns want some kind of insiioe ond— lockdowns want some kind of justice and they— lockdowns want some kind of justice and they deserve it, to be done— justice and they deserve it, to be quite honest.— justice and they deserve it, to be quite honest. absolutely but it be quite honest. absolutely but ii—nioe— be quite honest. absolutely but ii—nioe ii- be quite honest. absolutely but ii—nioe ii own- it would also be nice if our government get on with government would get on with actually doing stuff. now, actually doing some stuff. now, our question is meena. our next question is from meena. good evening . did you pay your good evening. did you pay your nonpode— good evening. did you pay your nonpope inis— good evening. did you pay your mortgage this month or did you need— mortgage this month or did you need io— mortgage this month or did you need io ieed— mortgage this month or did you need to feed family ? �*fd�*izgc need to feed the family? well, i'm need to feed the family? well, in none— need to feed the family? well, in done so— need to feed the family? well, i'm here so tory— need to feed the family? well, i'm here so tory mps- need to feed the family? well, i'm here so tory mps are sounding the alarm bells over their prospects in the general election next year as homeowners find their mortgages spiralling out of control. economists think interest rates will rise again this week and tory mp for telford, lucy allan, said people

telling me their monthly mortgage payment is exceeding their salary that is unsafe , their salary that is unsafe, unsustainable. now cresta , you unsustainable. now cresta, you live on a boat. i unsustainable. now cresta, you live on a boat . i know where live on a boat. i know where inis— live on a boat. i know where we is— live on a boat. i know where one is going.— live on a boat. i know where one is going. i— live on a boat. i know where this is going. i do.- live on a boat. i know where this is going. i do. so- c m i know where this is going. i do. so i don't nove— this is going. i do. so i don't nowe o— this is going. i do. so i don't have a mortgage.— this is going. i do. so i don't have a mortgage. i mean, i did or have a mortgage. i mean, i did donden.— have a mortgage. i mean, i did or a garden. london is my garden .iosn— or a garden. london is my garden .iosn howie.— or a garden. london is my garden . josh howie. what— or a garden. london is my garden . josh howie. what was the onesiioni— . josh howie. what was the question? have— . josh howie. what was the question? have i paid my. i don-i— question? have i paid my. i don-i nove— question? have i paid my. i don-i nowe o— question? have i paid my. i don't have a mortgage. i'm ininiind— don't have a mortgage. i'm thinking about— don't have a mortgage. i'm thinking about getting one. it's not thinking about getting one. it's noi ioowind. — thinking about getting one. it's not looking. not— thinking about getting one. it's not looking. not anymore. it's so. not looking. not anymore. it's veon— not looking. not anymore. it's so. yeah exactly.— not looking. not anymore. it's so. yeah exactly. it's not ioowind— so. yeah exactly. it's not looking good— so. yeah exactly. it's not looking good .- so. yeah exactly. it's not looking good . yeah. are you. are looking good. yeah. are you. are you— looking good. yeah. are you. are you o— looking good. yeah. are you. are you o nome— looking good. yeah. are you. are you a home owner,— looking good. yeah. are you. are you a home owner, francis? of i-n noi.— you a home owner, francis? of i-n noi. — you a home owner, francis? of course i'm not. no.- you a home owner, francis? of course i'm not. no you a home owner, francis? of course i'm not. \i:::i you a home owner, francis? of course i'm not. no course i'm not. no. look at me. do i look like a home owner? absolutely not. oh, i live in a small , absolutely not. oh, i live in a small, rented absolutely not. oh, i live in a small , rented flat, absolutely not. oh, i live in a small, rented flat, which i share with two cats. and the cats have a better standard of living than i do. so no, no, i don't have a mortgage. but the reality is, i really admire this government because what they try and do is every month they try and do is every month they try and make it worse for people and they're nailing it every month. they just coming out with something new, which is just crippling good on them. crippling us. good on them. whether is the straw that whether this is the straw that none— whether this is the straw that broke-country's- whether this is the straw that

broke country's back, broke the country's back, i inoi— broke the country's back, i mean, that happened probably oiowi—odo. - mean, that happened probablyi about—ago. there's about six months ago. there's been— about six months ago. there's neon-oi— about six months ago. there's been-of straws. no,- about six months ago. there's been -of straws. no, i. about six months ago. there'sl been -of straws. no, i feel been a lot of straws. no, i feel like been a lot of straws. no, i feel iiie inis— been a lot of straws. no, i feel iiie dis is— been a lot of straws. no, i feel like this is this— been a lot of straws. no, i feel like this is this this— " no, i feel like this is this this might be the like this is this this might be ine iod— like this is this this might be ine dog inoi— like this is this this might be the log that did— like this is this this might be the log that did it, but i've neond— the log that did it, but i've even heard that— the log that did it, but i've even heard that there are some ion— even heard that there are some tory wis— even heard that there are some tory mps actually— even heard that there are some tory mps actually asking for an eieoiion— tory mps actually asking for an election-because- tory mps actually asking for an election because they're the election now because they're the donode— election now because they're the donooe wowid— election now because they're the damage would be— election now because they're the damage would be so much greater in onoinen— damage would be so much greater in another year's— damage would be so much greater in another year's time. that's ine— in another year's time. that's ine ideo— in another year's time. that's the idea anyway.— in another year's time. that's the idea anyway. do you think inene-s— the idea anyway. do you think inene-s onw— the idea anyway. do you think there's any chance of that happening? _ there's any chance of that happening? \ii:::i there's any chance of that happening? \i:::i there's any chance of that- happening? no, no. i think sunak is try and put it off is going to try and put it off as long humanly possible in as long as humanly possible in the and very distant the vague and very, very distant hope that he's going to actually be able to turn this mess around, which, course, he around, which, of course, he can't won't sunak it's can't and he won't sunak it's going to and starmer is going to storm without having storm to in power without having any policies. i will storm to in power without having any policies . i will say about any policies. i will say about inoi— any policies. i will say about no .— any policies. i will say about no . odi— any policies. i will say about no . oii in— any policies. i will say about that , all i'm going- my it. i will say about that, all i'm going to say is ie— that, all i'm going to say is iiwe weon— that, all i'm going to say is five year fixed— that, all i'm going to say is five year fixed anyway . our next five year fixed anyway. our next dwesiion— five year fixed anyway. our next dwesiion is— five year fixed anyway. our next question is from _ five year fixed anyway. our next question is from jacqui. i:i:::i question is from jacqui. i do. we— question is from jacqui. i do. we need— question is from jacqui. i do. we need is— question is from jacqui. i do. we need to stop— question is from jacqui. i do. we need to stop sorry, do we need to stop listening to take that songs now? never. how dare you. nottingham pride has dnopped— you. nottingham pride has dnopped towe— nottingham pride has dropped take that's howard nonoid— dropped take that's howard donald from _ dropped take that's howard donald from a— dropped take that's howard donald from a festival in july oiien— donald from a festival in july oiien ne— donald from a festival in july after he liked— donald from a festival in july after he liked several transphobic- after he liked several transphobic and homophobic

iweeis— transphobic and homophobic iweeis .— transphobic and homophobic tweets . donald's twitter account tweets. donald's twitter account has tweets. donald's twitter account nos no— tweets. donald's twitter account nos teen— tweets. donald's twitter account has now been deleted after fans oniiieised— has now been deleted after fans criticised his— has now been deleted after fans criticised his online behaviour ond— criticised his online behaviour ond opoiopeiie— criticised his online behaviour and apologetic donald said i am neoiiw— and apologetic donald said i am really disappointed in myself ond— really disappointed in myself ond in— really disappointed in myself ond i-n sonny— really disappointed in myself and i'm sorry for— really disappointed in myself and i'm sorry for any hurt that iwe— and i'm sorry for any hurt that he owsed— and i'm sorry for any hurt that he owsed iw— and i'm sorry for any hurt that i've caused by my— and i'm sorry for any hurt that i've caused by my uneducated ooiions. — i've caused by my uneducated ooiions. i— i've caused by my uneducated actions. i clearly— i've caused by my uneducated actions. i clearly have a lot to ieonn— actions. i clearly have a lot to ieonn ond— actions. i clearly have a lot to learn and it's— actions. i clearly have a lot to learn and it's a— actions. i clearly have a lot to learn and it's a priority for me to learn and it's a priority for me io do.— learn and it's a priority for me io do. pion— learn and it's a priority for me to do. blah blah— learn and it's a priority for me to do. blah blah blah blah blah pion— to do. blah blah blah blah blah won-pion— to do. blah blah blah blah blah blah-blah. first— to do. blah blah blah blah blah blah-blah. first of- to do. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. first of all, blah blah blah. first of all, iei-s— blah blah blah. first of all, iei-s one— blah blah blah. first of all, iei-s oi— blah blah blah. first of all, let's one of those cresta , one let's one of those cresta, one of let's one of those cresta, one oi-iweeis— let's one of those cresta, one oi-iweeis i— let's one of those cresta, one of tweets, i believe one of those tweets, i believe one of those tweets, i believe one oi inose— of those tweets, i believe one of those homophobe phobic tweets was of those homophobe phobic tweets wos—iiwe— of those homophobe phobic tweets wos—iiwe inoi- was the disgusting like that onw— was the disgusting like that only women— was the disgusting like that only women can have periods. ves— only women can have periods. pep .— only women can have periods. ves . inoi-s— only women can have periods. yes , that's what— only women can have periods. yes , that's what he's- yes, that's what he's apologising for. i don't think he should be apologising . it's he should be apologising. it's not going to go away, is it? if you if you stand your ground period. well, after a week or so— period. well, after a week or so in— period. well, after a week or so in wen— izzii: well, after a week or so. so i'm very disappointed in nin. — so. so i'm very disappointed in nin. ne— so. so i'm very disappointed in him. he needs— so. so i'm very disappointed in him. he needs to— so. so i'm very disappointed in him. he needs to apologise to me now for apologising. howard, you know, this was the first record iever know, this was the first record i ever bought was take that and now i'm just distraught about vinyl, right . there is now i'm just distraught about vinyl, right. there is an onenneni— vinyl, right. there is an onenneni .— vinyl, right. there is an argument . some- , g there is an argument . some people would vinyl, right. there is an— argument . some people would say argument. some people would say that argument. some people would say do inis— argument. some people would say do we is— argument. some people would say do we is o— argument. some people would say that this is a free— argument. some people would say that this is a free speech i— that this is a free speech issue. i don't— that this is a free speech issue. i don't think it actually

issue. i don't think it actually is o— issue. i don't think it actually is o inee— issue. i don't think it actually is a free speech— issue. i don't think it actually is a free speech issue. the iesiiwoi— is a free speech issue. the iesiiwoi in— is a free speech issue. the festival in nottingham pride , festival in nottingham pride, inew— festival in nottingham pride, inew nove— festival in nottingham pride, they have the— festival in nottingham pride, they have the option to , you they have the option to, you know.— they have the option to, you know. io — they have the option to, you know, to basically pull the booking— know, to basically pull the booking oi— know, to basically pull the booking of someone who doesn't oiidn— booking of someone who doesn't oiien wiin— booking of someone who doesn't align with their— booking of someone who doesn't align with their beliefs right . align with their beliefs right. ewen— align with their beliefs right. iwen ii— align with their beliefs right. even if those _ align with their beliefs right. even if those beliefs are wrong. veon. — even if those beliefs are wrong. veon. and— even if those beliefs are wrong. yeah. and look,— even if those beliefs are wrong. yeah. and look,-terrible- even if those beliefs are wrong. yeah. and look,-terrible is. yeah. and look, how terrible is your pride event that you don't put book? gary barlow you don't book robbie williams you don't even book. mark mark whatever his surname is , no one knows. his surname is, no one knows. mark surname how you're pretending you don't know his name, right? are you? book how would donald so you think that's enough for them to be closed out? exactly. that's how it snowid— out? exactly. that's how it should take— out? exactly. that's how it should take this- izzil?’ exactly. that's how it should take this as an opponnniiw— should take this as an opportunity to ditch the event. dike— opportunity to ditch the event. iiwe wno-s— opportunity to ditch the event. like who's cancelling who here? i like who's cancelling who here? i inini— like who's cancelling who here? i dint ids— like who's cancelling who here? i think it's the— like who's cancelling who here? i think it's the opportunity- like who's cancelling who here? i think it's the opportunity for him to become a massive terf and just out with with kelly j. just go out with with kelly j. keen on marches. i think that might next step, don't might be the next step, don't you? well, nottingham pride i am owoiioiie. — you? well, nottingham pride i am available. we'll— you? well, nottingham pride i am available. we'll be— you? well, nottingham pride i am available. we'll be on.- 7 well, nottingham pride i am available. ash; ll m os" 7 well, nottingham pride i am available. ash; ll m os " "izyxe available. we'll be on. our next question is from olivia . hello. question is from olivia. hello. hi. hi our oxfam_ 2" , hello. hi. hi our oxfam donations needed— hi. hi our oxfam donations needed io— hi. hi our oxfam donations needed to pow— hi. hi our oxfam donations needed to pay for a new ceo . needed to pay for a new ceo. ves. — needed to pay for a new ceo. ves. oxioni — needed to pay for a new ceo. yes. oxfam chief—

needed to pay for a new ceo. yes. oxfam chief danny- yes. oxfam chief danny sriskandarajah has announced that he is leaving the charity in the wake of a row over a cartoon which some critics suggested was a depiction of jk rowling. the charity released a pride video which included a woman wearing a terf badge who looked somewhat like rowling . looked somewhat like rowling. the cartoon has been withdrawn, although the charity dismissed the notion that characters were based on real life people . based on real life people. because she's got loads of money and she can sue. saw in the and she can sue. you saw in the cartoon, you see the image you think it was based on her? absolutely . i think, oh, look, absolutely. i think, oh, look, inene— absolutely. i think, oh, look, inene ii— absolutely. i think, oh, look, inene ii is. — absolutely. i think, oh, look, there it is. there— absolutely. i think, oh, look, there it is. there which one's wno-s— there it is. there which one's wno-s wnoi— there it is. there which one's wno-s wnoi i— there it is. there which one's who's who? i say— there it is. there which one's who's who? i say absolutely no oiienee— who's who? i say absolutely no oiienee-noi— who's who? i say absolutely no offence,-not trying- who's who? i say absolutely no offence, not trying to offence, j.k. i'm not trying to be..— offence, j.k. i'm not trying to be- ini— offence, j.k. i'm not trying to be- iwi wes— offence, j.k. i'm not trying to be-, but yes,ido- offence, j.k. i'm not trying to be , but yes, do think it be rude, but yes, i do think it posed— be rude, but yes, i do think it was based on— be rude, but yes, i do think it was based on her.— be rude, but yes, i do think it was based on her. 5 'i: an] was based on her. yes > and do you— was based on her. yes > and do you think— was based on her. yes > and do you think that he's resigning because do you think because of this or do you think it's just think so? although this it's just think so? although inis-inein— it's just think so? although this-their first- it's just think so? although this-their first bit- it's just think so? although this-their first bit of. this isn't their first bit of iodide.— this isn't their first bit of trouble,.it?_ this isn't their first bit of trouble,.it? i- this isn't their first bit of trouble, it? i mean, i don't trouble, is it? i mean, i don't know.— trouble, is it? i mean, i don't know. wos— trouble, is it? i mean, i don't know. wos ne— trouble, is it? i mean, i don't know. was he ceo- trouble, is it? i mean, i don't know. was he ceo during the i ininw— know. was he ceo during the i ininw ne— know. was he ceo during the i think he came— know. was he ceo during the i think he came in— know. was he ceo during the i think he came in in 2019. but yes.— think he came in in 2019. but yes. oxion— think he came in in 2019. but yes. oxioni nos— think he came in in 2019. but yes, oxfam has had- think he came in in 2019. but yes, oxfam has had issues with their workers hiring sex their aid workers hiring sex workers or in haiti and other places , parties and whatnot. not

places, parties and whatnot. not what you would expect from a charity that's meant to be going out there and doing good . do you out there and doing good. do you think that this is part of the reason why he might have left, or do you think it's damaged the oxfam brand a lot ? i mean, look, oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, the oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, ine inind— oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, ine inind is— oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, the thing is with— oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, the thing is with all— oxfam brand a lot? i mean, look, the thing is with all of— : izzi7 i mean, look, the thing is with all of these enoniiies— the thing is with all of these charities, you— the thing is with all of these charities, you think to themselves,- charities, you think to themselves, what are you doing? wnoi— themselves, what are you doing? wnoi o— themselves, what are you doing? wnoi o ononiiw— themselves, what are you doing? what a charity thinks himself? do what a charity thinks himself? no wow— what a charity thinks himself? do you know— what a charity thinks himself? do you know what i'm going to do now— do you know what i'm going to do eei-s— do you know what i'm going to do iei-s dei— do you know what i'm going to do now? let's get into— do you know what i'm going to do now? let's get into the culture eei-s— now? let's get into the culture war. let's let's— now? let's get into the culture war. let's let's do— now? let's get into the culture war. let's let's do that. and inoi-s— war. let's let's do that. and inoi-s neoiiw— war. let's let's do that. and that's really going to bring in the that's really going to bring in ine-pioee— that's really going to bring in ine-piooe .— that's really going to bring in the-place . yeah,- that's really going to bring in the place . yeah, yeah. the right place. yeah, yeah. inoi-s—io- the right place. yeah, yeah. that's—to bringj that's really going to bring peopie— that's really going to bring. peopie—oiioow people on board. let's attack a ieiowed— people on board. let's attack a beloved children's— people on board. let's attack a beloved children's author. it's oisoiwie— beloved children's author. it's absolute nonsense . yeah. and you absolute nonsense. yeah. and you know.— absolute nonsense. yeah. and you know. ond— absolute nonsense. yeah. and you know. ond wow— absolute nonsense. yeah. and you know, and you were— absolute nonsense. yeah. and you know, and you were you were ooiwoiiw— know, and you were you were actually criticising them about, you know. — actually criticising them about, you know. ine— actually criticising them about, you know, the sex— actually criticising them about, you know, the sex worker stuff. iiowie — you know, the sex worker stuff. maybe inew— you know, the sex worker stuff. maybe they were— you know, the sex worker stuff. maybe they were just putting nonew— maybe they were just putting money-ine— maybe they were just putting money the community. oh, money into the community. oh, nove— money into the community. oh, novelininw— money into the community. oh, havelthink about— money into the community. oh, have think about that. have a think about that. okay. worde— have a think about that. okay. words-eo— have a think about that. okay. maybe-9° ond- have a think about that. okay. maybe-go and be. have a think about that. okay.- maybe-go and belsex maybe you could go and be a sex worker in and see how that worker in haiti and see how that works out. i can identify as whatever i want, mate. okay, fine. you do you think that fine. do you do you think that the really has any the oxfam really has any business getting involved in in the turf wars such ? i mean, the turf wars as such? i mean, that's not really what their remit is, is it? no. and this

noppens— remit is, is it? no. and this noppens oii— remit is, is it? no. and this happens all the— remit is, is it? no. and this happens all the time,- ”if“ e c7 \i:::i and this happens all the time, doesn't it? happens all the time, doesn't iii neoowse— happens all the time, doesn't it? because they're a good wine.— it? because they're a goodi wind—oi thing. you know, we sort of oiinowdn— thing. you know, we sort of although _withl thing. you know, we sort of. although _with other although it happens with other inonds— although it happens with other brands-doesn't- although it happens with other brands doesn't it? brands as well, doesn't it? supermarkets— brands as well, doesn't it? supermarkets lockheed martin supermarkets and lockheed martin neoeniiw—deiiind- recently have been getting inwoiwed— recently have been getting involved .well. - recently have been getting involved well. so like involved as well. so it's like everybody— involved as well. so it's like everybody wants— involved as well. so it's like everybody wants no, everybody wants you. but no, is— everybody wants you. but no, its noi— everybody wants you. but no, its noi in— everybody wants you. but no, it's not in their— everybody wants you. but no, it's not in their remit. just insi— it's not in their remit. just iusi just stick to raising money and mowing— just stick to raising money and mowing-wond— just stick to raising money and making-world a— just stick to raising money and making world a better place, making the world a better place, pieose. — making the world a better place, pieose. ves— making the world a better place, please. yes. and— making the world a better place, please. yes. and we also saw and as please. yes. and we also saw and os wow— please. yes. and we also saw and os wow soid— please. yes. and we also saw and os you soid. we— please. yes. and we also saw and as you said, we had— please. yes. and we also saw and as you said, we had this as you said, we had wix this ween— as you said, we had wix this week. ine— as you said, we had wix this week, the ceo— as you said, we had wix this week, the ceo also coming out on the week, the ceo also coming out on we inonsiiion— week, the ceo also coming out on the transition and— week, the ceo also coming out on the transition and basically ooiiind— the transition and basically ooiiind nis— the transition and basically calling his customers beggars if new— calling his customers beggars if inew ininw— calling his customers beggars if they think that— calling his customers beggars if they think that there's only men and women. yeah,— they think that there's only men and women. i/izium e they think that there's only men and women. / e and women. yeah, it's an unnecessary conversation, isn't it ? we can all. well, you think it? we can all. well, you think oiowi— it? we can all. well, you think oiowi wno— it? we can all. well, you think about who are— it? we can all. well, you think about who are the— c7 we can all. well, you think about who are the people who snop — about who are the people who snop oi— about who are the people who snop oi wix— about who are the people who shop at wix regularly. i think. do shop at wix regularly. i think. no you— shop at wix regularly. i think. do you know— shop at wix regularly. i think. do you know i— shop at wix regularly. i think. do you know i think they're going to be pretty gender critical. do you know what i mean? van drivers, i imagine, aren't really the most progressive. a bunch of a bunch when it comes to the gender issue. i'm visualising someone in o— issue. i'm visualising someone in o ined— issue. i'm visualising someone in o ined penny— issue. i'm visualising someone in a fred perry shirt.- i'm visualising someone in a fred perry shirt. yeah, wiin— in a fred perry shirt. yeah, with tattoos— in a fred perry shirt. yeah, with tattoos on— in a fred perry shirt. yeah, with tattoos on both arms . yeah. with tattoos on both arms. yeah. iodi— with tattoos on both arms. yeah. iook wno— with tattoos on both arms. yeah. look who looks— with tattoos on both arms. yeah. look who looks a— with tattoos on both arms. yeah. look who looks a little- with tattoos on both arms. yeah. look who looks a little bit- with tattoos on both arms. yeah. look who looks a little bit like a lesbian. absolutely all right.

our next question— a lesbian. absolutely all right. our next question is— m ' gigs all right. our next question is from eondon.— our next question is from eondon. new— our next question is from gordon. hey, gordon. hi e: gordon. hey, gordon. hi good evening.— gordon. hey, gordon. hi good evening. no— gordon. hey, gordon. hi good evening. no no— gordon. hey, gordon. hi good evening. do pg woodhouse four fs novels need trigger warnings? yeah, the telegraph reports that pwiiisnens— yeah, the telegraph reports that publishers have— yeah, the telegraph reports that publishers have decided to give pg wodehouse— publishers have decided to give pg wodehouse work a blanket inidden— pg wodehouse work a blanket inippen wonnind— pg wodehouse work a blanket trigger warning due to the ieiiei— trigger warning due to the ieiiei ii— trigger warning due to the belief it contains outdated soeioi— belief it contains outdated social attitudes . readers of any social attitudes. readers of any ediiions— social attitudes. readers of any new editions will— social attitudes. readers of any new editions will be greeted by a new editions will be greeted by o sowiionow— new editions will be greeted by a cautionary note— new editions will be greeted by a cautionary note that says, nieose— a cautionary note that says, nieose ie— a cautionary note that says, please be aware— a cautionary note that says, please be aware that this book was published— please be aware that this book was published in— please be aware that this book was published in the 1920s and may— was published in the 1920s and may oonioin— was published in the 1920s and may contain language themes or characterisations, _ may contain language themes or characterisations, which you may iind— characterisations, which you may find outdated.— characterisations, which you may find outdated. woodhouse is best known— find outdated. woodhouse is best known-ine— find outdated. woodhouse is best known .the - and - find outdated. woodhouse is best known the and wooster known for the jeeves and wooster nooks — known for the jeeves and wooster nooks wnion— known for the jeeves and wooster books, which have— known for the jeeves and wooster books, which have been edited to remove or-racial_ remove or alter racial ienninoiopw- remove or alter racial terminology . erg my terminology. erg my understanding, though , is that understanding, though, is that wiinin— understanding, though, is that within these— understanding, though, is that within these books , francis, within these books, francis, inene— within these books, francis, inene wee— within these books, francis, there were no— within these books, francis, there were no racial words or anything-— there were no racial words or onwinine. inis— there were no racial words or anything. this is— there were no racial words or anything. this is just what eooeiiw— anything. this is just what exactly oe— anything. this is just what exactly are they giving a inippen— exactly are they giving a trigger warning for? well, they wnoi— trigger warning for? well, they wnoi inew-ne — trigger warning for? well, they what they're actually doing is twine— what they're actually doing is inwinp io— what they're actually doing is trying to protect— what they're actually doing is trying to protect themselves at all trying to protect themselves at odd sosis— trying to protect themselves at all costs from _ trying to protect themselves at all costs from the _ trying to protect themselves at all costs from the fact that somebody— all costs from the fact that somebody somewhere might get a wide— somebody somewhere might get a iiiiie iii— somebody somewhere might get a little bit upset— somebody somewhere might get a little bit upset about something and little bit upset about something ond inen— little bit upset about something ond inen sioni— little bit upset about something and then start a— little bit upset about something and then start a hashtag tag,

wnien— and then start a hashtag tag, which would— and then start a hashtag tag, which would about five people wowid— which would about five people wowid dei— which would about five people would get involved . ' i: would get involved. and then ieowse— would get involved. and then because the entire publishing industry, like all liberal arts industries, are so pathetic , industries, are so pathetic, weak, they will then crumble upon guys and then ban all books and that's what that's what. really? yeah cresta it seems to be moving— really? yeah cresta it seems to be moving soni— really? yeah cresta it seems to be moving sort of— really? yeah cresta it seems to be moving sort of further back in ine— be moving sort of further back in time. these— be moving sort of further back in time. these kind of these inipden— in time. these kind of these trigger warnings. are we going to trigger warnings. are we going io ie— trigger warnings. are we going to be getting— trigger warnings. are we going to be getting the— trigger warnings. are we going to be getting the sort of iliad, are to be getting the sort of iliad, we going— to be getting the sort of iliad, we going io— to be getting the sort of iliad, are we going to get that far iooki — are we going to get that far iooki we.— are we going to get that far iooki do. i— are we going to get that far back? \i:::i g are we going to get that far back? no g�*izitisg are we going to get that far- back? no, i thought we were we were making some ground here because they haven't actually altered text, have they? i altered the text, have they? i see. they've just given it a warning, is of a warning, which is a bit of a move forward people going move forward from people going in red pen and deciding in with a red pen and deciding they better. i mean, can they know better. i mean, can you if this you imagine if this stuff actually got altered somebody actually got altered by somebody now? it wouldn't be pg wodehouse at so that's at all. so i think that's a positive no. do you remember wnen— positive no. do you remember wneansed— positive no. do you remember when-usedlstay- positive no. do you remember when.used.stay up- e do you remember when used stay up and just when we used to stay up and just won— when we used to stay up and just woion nonon— when we used to stay up and just watch horror movies? no, i was siowing— watch horror movies? no, i was siowing-i— watch horror movies? no, i was siowing-i wo— watch horror movies? no, i was siowing-i woslwos- watch horror movies? no, i was. staying-i waslwas reading staying up. i was i was reading pg wodehouse. but yeah. my god, this is shocking stuff. i wish somebody trigger me, somebody had trigger warned me, but so ridiculous . i but it's so ridiculous. i remember as a kid, like

but it's so ridiculous. i- remember as a kid, like my nnoe-si— remember as a kid, like my mate's older— remember as a kid, like my mate's older brother showing me neiinoisen— mate's older brother showing me hellraiser three— mate's older brother showing me hellraiser three and all these gnoiwiiows— hellraiser three and all these gratuitous-horror- hellraiser three and all these gratuitous horror movies gratuitous like horror movies ond— gratuitous like horror movies ond ooiion— gratuitous like horror movies and action movies and now we've got and action movies and now we've goi iniggen— and action movies and now we've got trigger warnings on pg. wodehouse. _ got trigger warnings on pg. wodehouse. e : wodehouse. hasn't done you any harm at all, has it? yeah, exactly. i'm harm at all, has it? yeah, exactly . i'm not angry harm at all, has it? yeah, exactly. i'm not angry in the siigniesi— exactly. i'm not angry in the siigniesi .— exactly. i'm not angry in the slightest . uh,— exactly. i'm not angry in the slightest . uh, or— exactly. i'm not angry in the slightest . uh, or an- cyxaizeeg i'm not angry in the slightest. uh, or an insomniac. anwwow— slightest. uh, or an insomniac. anwwow mowing— slightest. uh, or an insomniac. anyway, moving on. ?g slightest. uh, or an insomniac. anyway, moving on. 3g cite. " anyway, moving on. right. our iinoi— anyway, moving on. right. our final question for the moment is from paul . hi, paul. do you from paul. hi, paul. do you deserve £25 million?- do you deserve £25 million? yes. if you . do— deserve £25 million? yes. if you . do wow— deserve £25 million? yes. if you were , do you deserve £25 were, do you deserve £25 niiiioni— were, do you deserve £25 million? if— were, do you deserve £25 million? if you- were, do you deserve £25 million? if you are sacked for being— million? if you are sacked for being white? _ million? if you are sacked for being white? �*fd�*izge million? if you are sacked for being white? well, this is a former starbucks manager. she was ordered awarded $2256 was ordered awarded $225.6 million. was ordered awarded $2256 million. that's a lot of money by a federal jury in new jersey earlier this week after they found that she had been fired for being white. shannon phillips claims she was made a scapegoat by the company when police were called to a branch of the coffee shop. and two black men led away. even though they had not committed any crime. prompted crime. the incident prompted a major backlash against starbucks

, which shut many of its branches. one so staff could branches. one day so staff could receive racial bias training. so do you remember this incident, cresta? do you remember what happened ? and i believe it was happened? and i believe it was two men. they were black. they went into the starbucks . they went into the starbucks. they said they were waiting for a friend and they wanted to use the toilet. and the manager or one of the staff said, look, if you're if you're not going to buy anything, we're going to call the police. that's essentially that's right. essentially what. that's right. but woman, but it wasn't this woman, snonnon— but it wasn't this woman, shannon,_the| but it wasn't this woman,- shannon,_the police. shannon, that called the police. it shannon, that called the police. ii-eoiieogwe— shannon, that called the police. it-colleague who- shannon, that called the police. it colleague who was it was her colleague who was diod— it was her colleague who was iiook ond— it was her colleague who was black and didn't— it was her colleague who was black and didn't get fired. so inoi-s— black and didn't get fired. so inoi-s wed— black and didn't get fired. so that's well, i— black and didn't get fired. so that's well, i think it was ooiwoiiw— that's well, i think it was actually-even- that's well, i think it was- actually-even-she's actually not even hers. she's one-s— actually not even hers. she's sne-s—nionogenl actually not even hers. she's she's manager of a she's the regional manager of a lot stores. and think it lot of stores. and i think it was her this person's immediate supervisor who was who supervisor who was black, who actually shannon the actually defended shannon at the court to say he was the court case to say he was the immediate court case to say he was the immediahe's they there because he's black, they there was no ramifications for him. so it seemed like they are trying to right? to get a scapegoat, right? yeah, i guess so. i guess so. is— yeah, i guess so. i guess so. its on— yeah, i guess so. i guess so. it's an astonishing amount of one— it's an astonishing amount of nonew-ion- it's an astonishing amount of money, for somebody money, isn't it, for somebody inoi— money, isn't it, for somebody that-starbucks?- money, isn't it, for somebodyi that-starbucks?-a that works in starbucks? it's a lot that works in starbucks? it's a ioi-now— that works in starbucks? it's a ioi-now do— that works in starbucks? it's a lot- how do they- that works in starbucks? it's a lot how do they arrive lot of tips. how do they arrive at lot of tips. how do they arrive oi inese— lot of tips. how do they arrive at these figures?— lot of tips. how do they arrive at these figures? it's almost dike— at these figures? it's almost iike inew-we—

at these figures? it's almost like they've something like they've got something to nide— like they've got something to hide—veryl hide and they must be very wonnied— hide and they must be very wonnied io— hide and they must be very worried to be— hide and they must be very worried to be looking at that kind— worried to be looking at that kind-wed- worried to be looking at that. kind-well-she kind of figure. well i think she ran kind of figure. well i think she ine— kind of figure. well i think she ine-wos— kind of figure. well i think she ran the-was that- kind of figure. well i think she ran the was that she ran ran the point was that she ran in dike— ran the point was that she ran in iike ine— ran the point was that she ran in like the whole— ran the point was that she ran in like the whole region, so she wos-nign— in like the whole region, so she wos-nign op— in like the whole region, so she wos-nign wp-inel was quite high up within the organisation. _ was quite high up within the organisation. okay, well, she's sidi— organisation. okay, well, she's siiii—owi- organisation. okay, well, she's siiii—owi oi- still done very well out of it i inink. — still done very well out of it i inink. noi— still done very well out of it i think. but we— still done very well out of it i think. but we are- still done very well out of it i think. g think. but we are seeing this and we've seen this in the past. do think we're going to see do you think we're going to see more of these kind of court cases someone somewhere cases where someone somewhere makes then these makes a mistake and then these companies and they have to companies panic and they have to fire somebody? i'm talking about oxfam. no yeah. ithink and oxfam. no yeah. i think more and won-ne rosi— oxfam. no yeah. i think more and more you're just going— iijiixlfi’“ \i:::i yeah. i think more and more you're just going to see inis— more you're just going to see inis-wnoi— more you're just going to see inis-wnoi wow- more you're just going to see. this-what you .with this because what you see with inese— this because what you see with these companies— this because what you see with these companies-a- this because what you see with these companies a complete these companies is a complete inoiiiiiw— these companies is a complete inoiiiiiw io— these companies is a complete inability to stand— these companies is a complete inability to stand ground inability to stand their ground or inability to stand their ground on ooiwoiiw— inability to stand their ground or actually just— inability to stand their ground or actually just go. no, we've iooked— or actually just go. no, we've iooked inio— or actually just go. no, we've looked into it— or actually just go. no, we've looked into it and— or actually just go. no, we've looked into it and we realise inoi— looked into it and we realise inoi ii— looked into it and we realise inoi ii os— looked into it and we realise that it was fine— looked into it and we realise that it was fine or maybe soneiodw— that it was fine or maybe somebody made a mistake. we opoiogise— somebody made a mistake. we opoiogise ion— somebody made a mistake. we apologise for that. it's not inoi— apologise for that. it's not do big— apologise for that. it's not do big o— apologise for that. it's not that big a deal— apologise for that. it's not that big a deal and we're all going— that big a deal and we're all going io— that big a deal and we're all going to noe— that big a deal and we're all going to move on. but fire some someone and then— going to move on. but fire some someone and then getting $25.6 niiiion— someone and then getting $25.6 niiiion. i— someone and then getting $25.6 million. i wish— someone and then getting $25.6 million. i wish someone would do million. iwish someone would do inoi— million. iwish someone would do do io— million. i wish someone would do do io — million. iwish someone would do that to us. josh— million. iwish someone would do that to us. josh yeah— million. i wish someone would do that to us. josh yeah ,- million. i wish someone would do that to us. / that to us. josh yeah, but wouldn't you love it if someone just discriminated against you because you were white and you got fired? 25.6 million. now say

something . say something. i hate something. say something. i hate you. white people just doesn't nove— you. white people just doesn't nowe ine— you. white people just doesn't have the same— you. white people just doesn't have the same ring— white people just doesn't have the same ring to it, does iii — have the same ring to it, does iii ine— have the same ring to it, does iii ine iwe— have the same ring to it, does it? the two noncustomers got some money as well, didn't they? did they too, general? i think they got four stamps on the card , but it is. it is a serious ining. — , but it is. it is a serious ining. we— , but it is. it is a serious thing. we are— e it is a serious thing. we are seeing these sopois— thing. we are seeing these companies panicking, acting in nosie— companies panicking, acting in haste because— companies panicking, acting in haste because they want to like onwpodw. — haste because they want to like anybody- wo — haste because they want to like anybody- no one— haste because they want to like anybody. no one wants to be coded— anybody. no one wants to be coded owi— anybody. no one wants to be called out as— anybody. no one wants to be called out as being racist, ooiing— called out as being racist, oeiing in— called out as being racist, acting in haste,- called out as being racist, acting in haste, and then, of ieing— acting in haste, and then, of course, being racist themselves. and— course, being racist themselves. and inis— course, being racist themselves. and we is— course, being racist themselves. and this is them— course, being racist themselves. and this is them being held to account. yeah.— and this is them being held to account. yeah. and- and this is them being held to account. yeah. and i- and this is them being held to account. i/izium ' i: i:i:::i" e account. yeah. and i don't know how many people make these decisions either. is it one decisions either. and is it one person had a bit of person that's had a bit of a heavy weekend and on a monday they just just write they just say, i'll just write them check for 25 million? or them a check for 25 million? or is it discussed in meetings? i don't how arrive at don't know how they arrive at this. it's a lot of paninis that they've there. anyway, they've sold there. anyway, still they've sold there. anyway, siiiiloone— they've sold there. anyway, still-come on _ they've sold there. anyway, still-come on free- anyway, still come on free speech still to come on free speech woiion— still to come on free speech nation, .britain _ still to come on free speech nation, britain becoming nation, is britain becoming a more sexually— nation, is britain becoming a more sexually nation? more sexually fluid nation? ionis— more sexually fluid nation?- louis—bisexual louis oakley from the bisexual nnwnon— louis oakley from the bisexual brunch podcast— louis oakley from the bisexual brunch podcast will be to brunch podcast will be here to en— brunch podcast will be here to odd-none.— brunch podcast will be here to tell.more._shortlyl

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listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. weioonie— listening to gb news radio. welcome back— listening to gb news radio. welcome back to— listening to gb news radio. welcome back to free- listening to gb news radio. welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me. josh howie is britain becoming a more sexually fluid country? lancashire university researcher have produced a report which suggests that around 1 in 15 brits have changed their sexual orientation in the past six years. and while conventional wisdom holds that sexual fluidity is generally the preserve of younger people, the new data taken from a sample of almost 23,000 people shows that women over 65 are one of the groups most likely to switch. here to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome the co—host of the bisexual brunch podcast , of the bisexual brunch podcast, lewis oakley. hi thank you so , lewis oakley. hi thank you so, lewis, were you shocked by this poll? did you did you sort of have any inclination of what was going to come out within it? not really. i hear this kind of sign— really. i hear this kind of siwii o— really. i hear this kind of stuff a lot.— ”cage i hear this kind of stuff a lot. obviously, you know.— stuff a lot. obviously, you know. peopie— stuff a lot. obviously, you know, people are are changing

the know, people are are changing ine-inoi— know, people are are changing the .that-identify- know, people are are changing the that identify by a the way that they identify by a rop— the way that they identify by a lot,-especially_ the way that they identify by a lot, especially that older lot, and especially that older soiegonw— lot, and especially that older soiegonw-we- lot, and especially that older category. we don't talk category. i think we don't talk oponi— category. i think we don't talk oiowilenowgn— category. i think we don't talk aboutlenough .— category. i think we don't talk about enough . but yeah, i about it enough. but yeah, i ooiwoiiw— about it enough. but yeah, i oeinoiiw see— about it enough. but yeah, i actually see a— about it enough. but yeah, i actually see a.of- about it enough. but yeah, i actually see a of the time actually see a lot of the time in ine— actually see a lot of the time in we won— actually see a lot of the time in the work i— actually see a lot of the time in the work i do— actually see a lot of the time in the work i do and isn't it oiso— in the work i do and isn't it oiso. inon— in the work i do and isn't it oiso. inon ny— in the work i do and isn't it also, from my understanding of neoding— also, from my understanding of reading-article,— also, from my understanding of reading article, it's reading the article, that it's noi— reading the article, that it's noi insi— reading the article, that it's noi rosi peopie— reading the article, that it's not just people supposedly soning— not just people supposedly coming-oi— not just people supposedly coming-of the- not just people supposedly coming of the closet, coming out of the closet, it's oiso— coming out of the closet, it's oiso peopie— coming out of the closet, it's also people who— coming out of the closet, it's also people who are gay or bi. neon.— also people who are gay or bi. veon. going.— also people who are gay or bi. yeahi goingi going— also people who are gay or bi. yeah, going, going straight. yeah. yeah. there's a lot yeah. yeah. so there's a lot inene-s— yeah. yeah. so there's a lot inene-s o— yeah. yeah. so there's a lot there's a lot— yeah. yeah. so there's a lot there's a lot to— yeah. yeah. so there's a lot there's a lot to unpack, really. so there's a lot to unpack, really. so i— there's a lot to unpack, really. so i sioned— there's a lot to unpack, really. so i started an— there's a lot to unpack, really. so i started an advice column sinpiw— so i started an advice column sinpiw-i— so i started an advice column sinpiw-i wowid- so i started an advice column simply-i would do. so i started an advice column simply i would do stuff simply because i would do stuff like simply because i would do stuff dike—wond- simply because i would do stuff dike—wowid go- simply because i would do stuff like—would go on. like this, right? i would go on tv like this, right? i would go on ivlwniie— like this, right? i would go on tv.write articles- like this, right? i would go on tv write articles and so many tv or write articles and so many peopie— tv or write articles and so many peopie-wniie— tv or write articles and so many peopie-wniie io- tv or write articles and so many people-write to in- tv or write articles and so many people write to in me. and people would write to in me. and so i— people would write to in me. and so i os— people would write to in me. and so i dike.— people would write to in me. and so i was like, i'll— people would write to in me. and so i was like, i'll turn this no— so i was like, i'll turn this inio on— so i was like, i'll turn this into an advice— so i was like, i'll turn this into an advice column. but one of into an advice column. but one oi-gwesiions- into an advice column. but one oi-gwesiions i- into an advice column. but one of-questions i have. of the main questions i have a lot of the main questions i have a ioi inon— of the main questions i have a lot from different— of the main questions i have a lot from different people is oponi— lot from different people is about coming— lot from different people is. about coming—get about coming out as you get oiden— about coming out as you get oiden. and— about coming out as you get oiden. and i— about coming out as you get older. and i think you've got to inink— older. and i think you've got to inink-wonid— older. and i think you've got to think-world has— older. and i think you've got to think world has changed. so think the world has changed. so oiwiowsiw—ii- obviously with this study, it wos-piwses- obviously with this study, it was pluses, right? was the 65 pluses, right? so inoi-s— was the 65 pluses, right? so inoi-s-wow— was the 65 pluses, right? so. that's-you-they're that's that's, you know, they're niwoiiing — that's that's, you know, they're niwoiiing ine— that's that's, you know, they're rivalling the 24— that's that's, you know, they're rivalling the 24 year olds now new— rivalling the 24 year olds now new gnew— rivalling the 24 year olds now new gnew op— rivalling the 24 year olds now new gnew up in— rivalling the 24 year olds now new gnew up in o— rivalling the 24 year olds now they grew up in a different wond— they grew up in a different world. right?— they grew up in a different world. right? so if you grew up ond— world. right? so if you grew up ond i— world. right? so if you grew up ond i on— world. right? so if you grew up and i can obviously speak about the and i can obviously speak about we iiseowoi— and i can obviously speak about the bisexual experience most, iwi— the bisexual experience most, iwi ii— the bisexual experience most, iwi ii wow— the bisexual experience most, poi ii you gnew— the bisexual experience most, but if you grew up in a world wnene— but if you grew up in a world wnene ii— but if you grew up in a world where it was— but if you grew up in a world where it was illegal and then nigniw— where it was illegal and then nigniw-wpon- where it was illegal and then nigniw-wpon wow-

highly frowned upon, you pnopopiw— highly frowned upon, you pnopopiw did— highly frowned upon, you probably did hide and probably did hide it. and now wow-we— probably did hide it. and now wow-we-wp— probably did hide it. and now wow-we-wp in- probably did hide it. and now you've up in 2023 and you've woken up in 2023 and ooiwoiiw— you've woken up in 2023 and ooiwoiiw ids— you've woken up in 2023 and actually it's okay.— you've woken up in 2023 and actually it's okay. you're not going— actually it's okay. you're not going io— actually it's okay. you're not going to ie— actually it's okay. you're not going to be chased out of polite sooieiw— going to be chased out of polite society anymore. _ going to be chased out of polite society anymore. so i think that inene— society anymore. so i think that inene oe— society anymore. so i think that there are these— society anymore. so i think that there are these these people inoi— there are these these people do oe— there are these these people that are getting— there are these these people that are getting older and inew-ne— that are getting older and were sowing.— that are getting older and they're saying, well, actually, you— they're saying, well, actually, you know— they're saying, well, actually, you know-why- they're saying, well, actually, you know why why do i have you know what? why why do i have to you know what? why why do i have io-wiin— you know what? why why do i have io-wiin inisi— you know what? why why do i have to .with this? and _ you know what? why why do i have to-with this? and i— you know what? why why do i have to with this? and i think to deal with this? and i think inoi— to deal with this? and i think no ion— to deal with this? and i think no ion o— to deal with this? and i think that for a lot— to deal with this? and i think that for a lot people, that for a lot of people, espeeioiiw— especially in relationships, inoi— especially in relationships, ind—know.- especially in relationships,| that—know, will that kind of, you know, will enoii— that kind of, you know, will enoii ne— that kind of, you know, will email me and— that kind of, you know, will email me and that there may be nonnied— email me and that there may be nonnied. inew— email me and that there may be married, they kind— email me and that there may be married, they kind say, married, they kind of say, you know— married, they kind of say, you know-dived- married, they kind of say, you know-lived with. married, they kind of say, you know lived with this. know what, i've lived with this. i know what, i've lived with this. i-inoi— know what, i've lived with this. i-inoi i— know what, i've lived with this. i-inoi i os— know what, i've lived with this. i that i was bisexual or i knew that i was bisexual or wnoiewen— i knew that i was bisexual or wnoiewen ii— i knew that i was bisexual or whatever it was— i knew that i was bisexual or whatever it was all of my life. and— whatever it was all of my life. and iwe— whatever it was all of my life. and i've kind— whatever it was all of my life. and i've kind played this and i've kind of played this sinoigni— and i've kind of played this straight character for my wife ond—ioi and actually, i don't want to die— and actually, i don't want to die wiin— and actually, i don't want to die with-secret. - and actually, i don't want to die with secret. and i want die with the secret. and i want to die with the secret. and i want io ieii— die with the secret. and i want io ieii nei— die with the secret. and i want to tell her, it's— die with the secret. and i want to tell her, it's not— die with the secret. and i want to tell her, it's not that i won— to tell her, it's not that i woni io— to tell her, it's not that i woni io go— to tell her, it's not that i want to go off- to tell her, it's not that i want to go off and have affairs wiin— want to go off and have affairs wiin en— want to go off and have affairs wiin on— want to go off and have affairs with men or whatever it is. i insi— with men or whatever it is. i rwsi woni— with men or whatever it is. i rosi woni io— with men or whatever it is. i just want to say— with men or whatever it is. i just want to say to her, you know— just want to say to her, you know-iwe— just want to say to her, you know-i-we-wp- just want to say to her, youi know-i've-up with just want to say to her, you. know-i've-up with a know what, i've put up with a dood— know what, i've put up with a iood oi— know what, i've put up with a iood oi wow— know what, i've put up with a load of your stuff— know what, i've put up with a load of your stuff over the weos — load of your stuff over the weos i— load of your stuff over the weons i woni— load of your stuff over the years. i want to- load of your stuff over the years. i want to tell you soneining. — years. i want to tell you something. -is- years. i want to tell you something. is it. not something. this is it. not ieowing— something. this is it. not ieowing won. — something. this is it. not leaving you. i'm just going to let leaving you. i'm just going to iei wow— leaving you. i'm just going to iei won know— leaving you. i'm just going to let you know because i'm not playing— let you know because i'm not piowing inis— let you know because i'm not playing this straight character anymore. f i::;i: playing this straight character. anymore. -schofield who anymore. was it schofield who emailed? no, let's not get into that i mean, with your that one. but i mean, with your ongwneni— that one. but i mean, with your ongnneni ond— that one. but i mean, with your ongnneni ond i— that one. but i mean, with your argument and i agree- but i mean, with your argument and i agree with you, it argument and i agree with you, ii-inoi— argument and i agree with you, ii-inoi in— argument and i agree with you, it-that in many- argument and i agree with you, it that in many ways this

it seems that in many ways this is o— it seems that in many ways this is o wenw— it seems that in many ways this is a very positive— it seems that in many ways this is a very positive poll because if is a very positive poll because iilis— is a very positive poll because iilis ine— is a very positive poll because if is the acceptable motty if it is the acceptable motty ond— if it is the acceptable motty ond-ieei— if it is the acceptable motty and -feel like - if it is the acceptable motty and feel like they're and people feel like they're soie—inl safe to now come out in a diiieneni— safe to now come out in a different sexuality, to have inis— different sexuality, to have this fluidity— different sexuality, to have this fluidity ,_ different sexuality, to have this fluidity , surely that's an this fluidity, surely that's an indieoion— this fluidity, surely that's an indicator that— this fluidity, surely that's an indicator that society is more oeeepiing— indicator that society is more oeeepiing .— indicator that society is more accepting . yeah,— indicator that society is more accepting . yeah, i mean, things accepting. yeah, i mean, things nove— accepting. yeah, i mean, things nowe goiien— accepting. yeah, i mean, things have gotten better. there's no dopin— have gotten better. there's no dowii inings— have gotten better. there's no doubt things are— have gotten better. there's no doubt things are not perfect, iwi— doubt things are not perfect, iwi inings— doubt things are not perfect, but things have— doubt things are not perfect, but things have gotten a lot ieiien— but things have gotten a lot better, obviously. i still think inings— better, obviously. i still think inings-gei— better, obviously. i still think things get better things could get a lot better for bisexual— things could get a lot better for bisexual people. but yeah, i ininw— for bisexual people. but yeah, i ininw-inings— for bisexual people. but yeah, i think-things have- for bisexual people. but yeah, i think things have gotten think that things have gotten ieiien— think that things have gotten ieiien. -oe — think that things have gotten better. are seeing it better. people are seeing it nigni— better. people are seeing it more right now,— better. people are seeing it more right now, they're more right now, so they're seeing— more right now, so they're seeing-their- more right now, so they're seeing their real lives. seeing it in their real lives. inew-ne— seeing it in their real lives. inew-ne-wow- seeing it in their real lives.- they're-you-sally they're seeing, you know, sally at they're seeing, you know, sally oi-do— they're seeing, you know, sally oi-do-oone- they're seeing, you know, sally at-43-came out. they're seeing, you know, sallyi at-43-came out and at number 43 just came out and sne— at number 43 just came out and sne wow— at number 43 just came out and sne won know.— at number 43 just came out and she you know, no— at number 43 just came out and she you know, no one went to her nonse— she you know, no one went to her noise wiin— she you know, no one went to her house with stones— she you know, no one went to her house with stones to _ she you know, no one went to her house with stones to go get her. iwi— house with stones to go get her. noi—seeing- but also, you're seeing celebrities.— but also, you're seeing celebrities. you celebrities. you're seeing, you know.— celebrities. you're seeing, you know-snows— celebrities. you're seeing, you know, - shows that - celebrities. you're seeing, you know, shows that actually know, on tv shows that actually peopie— know, on tv shows that actually peopie-io— know, on tv shows that actually peopie-io wind- know, on tv shows that actually people-to kind of- know, on tv shows that actually people to kind of come people are able to kind of come out people are able to kind of come opi-ids— people are able to kind of come opi-ids okow— people are able to kind of come out-it's okay, it's- people are able to kind of come out it's okay, it's not out and it's okay, it's not penieoi— out and it's okay, it's not perfect. there's- out and it's okay, it's not perfect. there's a lot of perfect. there's still a lot of issues-ine— perfect. there's still a lot of issues the bisexual people. issues for the bisexual people. vow— issues for the bisexual people. you know.— issues for the bisexual people. you know, there— issues for the bisexual people. you know, there la - issues for the bisexual people. you know, there a lot going you know, there is a lot going on-we— you know, there is a lot going on-we wind— you know, there is a lot going on-we kind-do- you know, there is a lot going on we kind do worse on there. we kind of do worse ewenwwnene— on there. we kind of do worse everywhere you— on there. we kind of do worse everywhere you measure success, everywhere you measure success, wneinen— everywhere you measure success, wneinen-won— whether that's, you know, neodin— whether that's, you know, health, mental- whether that's, you know, health, mental health, wages soning— health, mental health, wages coming-.— health, mental health, wages eoningl wow— health, mental health, wages coming , you know, coming out, you know, particularly— coming out, you know, particularly one of the most oioseied— particularly one of the most doseied oi— particularly one of the most closeted of the— particularly one of the most closeted of the demographics . closeted of the demographics. iwi— closeted of the demographics. noi ii— closeted of the demographics. noi ii is— closeted of the demographics. but it is better.— closeted of the demographics. but it is better. it— closeted of the demographics. but it is better. it is better. so but it is better. it is better. so do— but it is better. it is better. so do wow— but it is better. it is better. so do you think— but it is better. it is better.

so do you think that- but it is better. it is better. so do you think that a- but it is better. it is better. so do you think that a lot of these people are, by definition, bisexual in that they are changing their or their the way the fluidity is working? no . the fluidity is working? no. well, the interesting thing about this study was it was it was every which way you know. so there were some people that were kind out as kind of coming out as heterosexual one thing was heterosexual. and one thing was quite interesting, i thought, was that there was a big demographic tick that of demographic tick that kind of when they the six when they ran the study six years said that, you years ago, had said that, you know, it's none your know, it's none of your business. i'm going to tell business. i'm not going to tell you what my sexuality is. and a lot of those are now saying, well, you know, this is what it is. so and a lot of those are coming straight. you say coming out as straight. you say coming out as straight. you say coming out as straight. you say coming out as straight. but coming out as straight. but coming out as straight. but coming out these researchers coming out to these researchers as straight, which is kind of showing that even though that's not it is showing not an lgbt thing, it is showing that sexuality and your attractions are becoming more central identity. attractions are becoming more central i identity. attractions are becoming more central i mean, identity. attractions are becoming more central i mean, do entity. attractions are becoming more central i mean, do you:y. attractions are becoming more central i mean, do you think yeah so, i mean, do you think inoi— yeah so, i mean, do you think no in— yeah so, i mean, do you think no in ine— yeah so, i mean, do you think that in the future,— yeah so, i mean, do you think that in the future, as- / so, i mean, do you think that in the future, as as this ine— that in the future, as as this the acceptability has led to peopie— the acceptability has led to more people coming out and going— more people coming out and going-ond— more people coming out and going-ond no- more people coming out and going, and now want to going, oh, and now i want to eoei— going, oh, and now i want to reveal—about- going, oh, and now i want to. reveal—about myself reveal something about myself wiin— reveal something about myself win—peopie- reveal something about myself with people being with the younger people being noised— with the younger people being noisedlinoi— with the younger people being raised that world, you raised in that world, do you ininw— raised in that world, do you. think—actually think that that would actually change— think that that would actually change-— think that that would actually change- that— think that that would actually

change , that people change then, that those people would—come- change then, that those peoplei would—come out.7 would have already come out.7 we-u— would have already come out.7 we-u have— would have already come out.7 we-u have to— would have already come out.7 we'll have to wait— would have already come out.7 we'll have to wait and- would have already come out.7 we'll have to wait and see. i think it's an interesting one. so the people now, they so the young people now, they are up in a more are growing up in a more accepting society. it might accepting society. so it might be that they won't get to 65 and be that they won't get to 65 and be know what, i've had be like, you know what, i've had enough. i'm going to tell you all. so, you that might all. so, you know, that might not this time. but, you not happen this time. but, you know, tell. and it know, time will tell. and it also seems be know, time will tell. and it also seems i be my - also seems to be my understanding it's more also seems to be my— understandinglit's more women understanding is it's more women who— understanding is it's more women hoo—— understanding is it's more women who—more fluid.- understanding is it's more women who more fluid. yeah, who seem to be more fluid. yeah, wow,— who seem to be more fluid. yeah, wow, oohohw— who seem to be more fluid. yeah, well, certainly more— who seem to be more fluid. yeah, well, certainly more women that are well, certainly more women that ore-ho— well, certainly more women that ore-ho ooh— well, certainly more women that are-to sort-admit- well, certainly more women that are to sort admit it. are willing to sort of admit it. |, are willing to sort of admit it. h vou— are willing to sort of admit it. ., you know.— are willing to sort of admit it. ., you know. so— are willing to sort of admit it. ., you know. so h— are willing to sort of admit it. i, you know, so i deal- are willing to sort of admit it. i, you know, so i deal with a lot the bisexual side. lot with the bisexual side. right. someone kind of right. and as someone kind of put it to me, they said, put it to me, once they said, like, louis, look, we know from statistics a lot women statistics that a lot of women don't date bisexual men. don't want to date bisexual men. right? factor the right? so factor in all the women that already don't want to date and then reduce that date me and then reduce that again there's so many again because there's so many women won't men. so women that won't date by men. so isn't out as by just isn't coming out as by just basically as by basically coming out as gay by default. is an issue default. there is an issue there. i always get into there. and i always get into a lot of trouble talking about it because you don't want to seem like you're criticising women, but time, um, there but at the same time, um, there are bi people that kind are a lot of bi people that kind of will stay the closet.

of will stay in the closet. they're most closeted of they're the most closeted of all, especially men, the all, especially by men, are the most closeted all the kind of most closeted of all the kind of demographics because they know that out there is a that if they come out there is a huge section of that are huge section of people that are attracted to women that will say, no, i'm not interested. and so kind of tackle so how do we kind of tackle that? you know, i'm not here to judge anyone. so if you're a woman you're not attracted woman and you're not attracted to a bi man, that's that's up to you. i would say you. but i would say there's a difference between saying, you know, i'm i just don't feel know, i'm just i just don't feel it. whatever that special feeling feel it feeling is. i just don't feel it for men and there is the for by men and there is the other that's saying, well, for by men and there is the odon't that's saying, well, for by men and there is the odon't believe�*s saying, well, for by men and there is the odon't believe bisexualityell, for by men and there is the odon't believe bisexuality is , for by men and there is the odon't believe bisexuality is a i don't believe bisexuality is a thing. i think you're gay. i think that, you know, you're a disease carrier. that's discrimination. think it's discrimination. so i think it's just these just about having these conversations. you know, there'll hot there'll be some really hot hunky bisexual celebrities eventually that might change people's know. so people's minds. i don't know. so that stuff will change. but it does on why men does have an impact on why men are less willing to be open about it. i mean, i've also had about it. i mean, i've also had a lot of women unwilling go about it. i mean, i've also had a lowithwomen unwilling go about it. i mean, i've also had a lowith me. it unwilling go about it. i mean, i've also had a lowith me. it might ng go about it. i mean, i've also had a lowith me. it might be go about it. i mean, i've also had a lowith me. it might be because out with me. it might be because i've out with me. it might be because he been— out with me. it might be because i've been married— out with me. it might be because i've been married for— out with me. it might be because i've been married for 20- it might be because i've been married for 20 years ono— i've been married for 20 years and hopphw— i've been married for 20 years and happily-i'm— i've been married for 20 years and happily i'm going, i and happily so i'm going, i ooh-h— and happily so i'm going, i ooh-h wow— and happily so i'm going, i don't want it.— and happily so i'm going, i don't want it. but but do you hhhh— don't want it. but but do you think government needs to do

think the government needs to do more .ensure that— think the government needs to do more ensure that sex more to ensure that sex hhohhoo— more to ensure that sex minorities are- more to ensure that sex minorities are feeling supported more to ensure that sex minoritiesywhzzhc. feeling supported more to ensure that sex minoritiesywhzzhc. jusclg supported more to ensure that sex minoritiesywhzzhc. shiipported more to ensure that sex— minorities you trust the government ? would you trust the government to touch anything? i think we might be better off without them trying to interfere. looking at how they handle everything how they they handle everything else. it's about else. look, i think it's about being with it, right? so i being smart with it, right? so i read a story on the way in about, you know, a new about, you know, there's a new zebra rainbow zebra zebra crossing, a rainbow zebra crossing. they've put in £50,000. somehow spent £50,000. somehow they've spent on good idea. on it. that wasn't a good idea. you what i mean? come you know what i mean? i'll come and for you. for £500, and do that for you. for £500, i think there is money in resource to be spent, but it's about in the right way. so you know, and i'm a big advocate of we can help ourselves a lot of the time. so with the stuff i do, we do the podcast, we do the advice column know, lot column because, you know, a lot of i'm in the of in the world i'm in the bisexual world. it's like, actually can each other. actually we can help each other. like kind of share my like i can kind of share my experience you that's experience with you and that's it. where kind of struggle on it. where we kind of struggle on that, kind of where the government could come in is with a of funding. you know, a bit of funding. you know, bisexuality famously bisexuality is famously under researched. really researched. it's not really served community and served by the lgbt community and anyone with anyone that's got a problem with me can read the me saying that can read the

funders lgbtq issues, funders for lgbtq issues, report. we're completely report. yeah, we're completely not we get about i% of not funded. we get about i% of lgbt despite being the lgbt funding despite being the biggest . it's the b, biggest demographic. it's the b, it's the the b, the lgb. it's the b, it's the b, the lgb. yeah. so, you know, there is some funding issues there. so if the government is smart with it and where it needs to go, and put it where it needs to go, not kind of things where it's not on kind of things where it's like, we painted like, oh look, we painted a bench, a rainbow that's not helped me in any way, you know what mean? yeah. yeah. if the what i mean? yeah. yeah. if the goworhhoh-h— what i mean? yeah. yeah. if the government's smart,— , / yeah. if the government's smart, that's a that-o— government's smart, that's a hhoh-o o— government's smart, that's a hhoh-o o hig— government's smart, that's a hhoh-o o hhg h— government's smart, that's a that's a big if. anyway, thank you— that's a big if. anyway, thank wow-much.— that's a big if. anyway, thank wow-much. hig— that's a big if. anyway, thank you much. big round of you so much. big round of opphowoo— you so much. big round of. opphwoo—wow. applause, please. thank you. shu— applause, please. thank you. son to— applause, please. thank you. still to come— applause, please. thank you. still to come tonight, laura hooowohh— still to come tonight, laura dodsworth on— still to come tonight, laura dodsworth on her fellow author, hhzohohh— dodsworth on her fellow author, elizabeth gilbert's decision not to hwhhoh— elizabeth gilbert's decision not to publish her— elizabeth gilbert's decision not to publish her new book because it's to publish her new book because h-o ooh— to publish her new book because h-o ooh h— to publish her new book because it's set in russia.— to publish her new book because it's set in russia. eat, pray. sho— it's set in russia. eat, pray. soo wow— it's set in russia. eat, pray. soo wow h— it's set in russia. eat, pray. soo you h o— it's set in russia. eat, pray. see you in a few- it's set in russia. eat, pray. see you in a few minutes. it's set in russia. eat, pray. see you in a few minutes . okay

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said at face value or maybe read a bit more into it. so she's released a video on social media. and as of this afternoon that had been watched 7.5 million times on twitter and it's across her socials saying that when she published when she announced that she was publishing the snow forest, she received an outpouring of negative emotion from ukrainian readers. and she's decided to listen to them, hear them and withdraw the book indefinitely. now, what actually happened was she got hundreds of negative reviews left on goodreads as all authors know, goodreads is an important source of reviews and ultimately leads to books. so, you know , is she listening to you know, is she listening to the sensitivities of ukrainian readers or is she maybe pandenng readers or is she maybe pandering to the sensibilities of western liberals and thinking about the bottom line ? oh, how about the bottom line? oh, how very cynical of you. _ about the bottom line? oh, how very cynical of you. but- about the bottom line? oh, how very cynical of you. but if- c “67 oh, how very cynical of you. but if it thw— very cynical of you. but if it was that she— very cynical of you. but if it was that she was- very cynical of you. but if it was that she was doing it hooowo— was that she was doing it hooowo oh— was that she was doing it because of criticism from whohhh— because of criticism from ukrainian readers and i'm sure how-wo— ukrainian readers and i'm sure hhow-wo ooh— ukrainian readers and i'm sure hhow-wo ooh o— ukrainian readers and i'm sure they've got a lot— ukrainian readers and i'm sure they've got a lot more to be

hoowohg— they've got a lot more to be hoowohg oh— they've got a lot more to be focusing on at— they've got a lot more to be focusing on at the moment, show— focusing on at the moment, owow h-o— focusing on at the moment, surely it's now— focusing on at the moment, surely it's now backfired heoowoe— surely it's now backfired because she's- surely it's now backfired because she's received a lot more criticism _ because she's received a lot more criticism from people saying— more criticism from people eowhg whoo— more criticism from people saying that this is self censorship. - saying that this is self censorship. “43?" saying that this is self censorship. / 1“ saying that this is self- censorship. yeah, she she has received a huge amount of negative reaction from having withdrawn the book and i think really rightly so, because as literature should be defended at all times , including wartime . all times, including wartime. the really strange thing about her decision to withdraw this bookis her decision to withdraw this book is it wasn't a manifesto for putin. you know, it didn't condone russia's war in ukraine. she hadn't pledged her profits to putin. it's basically a fictional book based on a real family who actually chose to escape russian society , to live escape russian society, to live apart from the russian regime . apart from the russian regime. and if we take this kind of decision to its illogical end, you know, where does it where doesit you know, where does it where does it go? do we have to stop reading or buying books? set in russia in the future, or books written in the past? where does it leave dostoevsky , chekhov and it leave dostoevsky, chekhov and tolstoy ? what andrew doyle so i

tolstoy? what andrew doyle so i ooh-h— tolstoy? what andrew doyle so i ooh-h know— tolstoy? what andrew doyle so i don't know who _ tolstoy? what andrew doyle so i don't know who those _ 7 what andrew doyle so i don't know who those people are. whoo— don't know who those people are. what about— don't know who those people are. what about okay,— don't know who those people are. what about okay, there's- what about okay, there's a fantastic book. i know you're joking . the gulag archipelago, joking. the gulag archipelago, written by alexander solzhenitsyn. you know, that's set in russia. are we allowed to read that? so she's making a decision which sounds like it's based on feelings, but it's really intellectually unsound . really intellectually unsound. right? because if you take it to the conclusion she's basically saying dangerous saying that books are dangerous , dangerous , books , books aren't dangerous, books are the bastion of liberty, which means that writers have a responsible duty to be artistically true as well as intellectually courageous . yes. intellectually courageous. yes. and i think the reason that this has provoked a big backlash is it feels like it's cowardly. so you think it is setting- it feels like it's cowardly. so you think it is setting a- c c c f: so you think it is setting a very dangerous— you think it is setting a very dangerous precedent, i guess, to other— dangerous precedent, i guess, to other-.— dangerous precedent, i guess, to o.he._, oo— dangerous precedent, i guess, to o.he._, as h— dangerous precedent, i guess, to o.he._, as h oo. - dangerous precedent, i guess, to other-, as i do. i- dangerous precedent, i guess, to other , as i do. other authors, as i do. i think it other authors, as i do. i think h sets— other authors, as i do. i think it ooh o— other authors, as i do. i think it sets a really dangerous precedent, although precedent is not right word not really the right word because well into the long because we're well into the long trend of the sensitivity readers. thing first readers. the thing the first thing note one single thing to note is not one single ukrainian will be saved. she won't any difference the won't make any difference to the course war in ukraine. course of the war in ukraine. it's a complete, utterly futile gesture and. whereas, she's

known as the author of eat, pray, love, which probably made her , you she's her millions, you know, she's not enough, probably not rich enough, she's probably going now as right going to be known now as right panda self—censor for you know the options for this are endless and you think i think i think the thing is although this isn't a precedent because as you were talking about pg wodehouse earlier, just recently, the sensitivity readers completely vandalised roald dahl's texts . vandalised roald dahl's texts. references to fat kids were removed, which will make no real life difference to the body mass index of any children in terry jones. monty python , one creator jones. monty python, one creator famously said they could never get away with making the life of brian. now, andrew lloyd webber was this week for was in the news this week for saying he wanted produce saying he wanted to produce a new but it wasn't set new musical, but it wasn't set in country. and he was told in this country. and he was told he produce a musical set he can't produce a musical set in another country back in 2018, the fantastic author lionel shriver was warning about sensitivity readers and cultural appropriation and she said that fiction would become homogenous , dreary and timid. well we're

there. we are. we're constantly reducing the limits of what's acceptable, but not only acceptable, but not only acceptable, we're reducing our own horizons of what's exciting and what's possible. and do you think that there is a way out here? i mean, is it the authors heed— here? i mean, is it the authors heeo ho— here? i mean, is it the authors heed to go— here? i mean, is it the authors heed to ooh o— “1:”h1:7’ i mean, is it the authors need to get a backbone? “557 i mean, is it the authors need to get a backbone? is it the— need to get a backbone? is it the publishing— need to get a backbone? is it the publishing houses need to let the publishing houses need to hot the— the publishing houses need to let the authors— the publishing houses need to let the authors just be authors? how— let the authors just be authors? how-going— let the authors just be authors? how-eohg ho— let the authors just be authors? how-going to go- let the authors just be authors? how going to get out of how are we going to get out of thee — how are we going to get out of the? h— how are we going to get out of this? i think— how are we going to get out of this? i think it's— how are we going to get out of this? i think it's all- how are we going to get out of this? i think it's all of- how are we going to get out of this? c this? i think it's all of us. you know, we all need to show courage. and does include courage. and that does include the now, i don't have the writer. now, i don't have elizabeth fame elizabeth gilbert's fame or standing, i don't think i've standing, but i don't think i've published which has been published a book which has been without controversy. and i've i've survived . you know, i've i've survived. you know, here i am talking about authors . she she should . and i think she she should have written this out and she would have got a lot more respect. so the way out of it is for limp wristed authors. we need publishers show some need publishers to show some backbone, rid of the backbone, get rid of the sensitivity readers. they're not making we don't making books better. we don't need at the beginning need warnings at the beginning of pg or nancy mitford of pg wodehouse or nancy mitford or roald dahl. what it does is really degrade the idea of the mind. it insults the intelligence of the reader.

people are quite capable of reading books, consuming ideas and coming out of it better not weaker. yeah, i mean, is the is there an argument that she's maybe just being a little bit too protected? because i read what— too protected? because i read what she— too protected? because i read what ohe woo— too protected? because i read what she was kind— too protected? because i read what she was kind of- f:7 because i read what she was kind of initially saving— what she was kind of initially oowhg-hhoh— what she was kind of initially saying-that it's- what she was kind of initially saying that it's really hard saying was that it's really hard to receive— saying was that it's really hard to receive criticism. and i eweoo— to receive criticism. and i oweoo h— to receive criticism. and i oweoe h she— to receive criticism. and i guess if she got so much hoohwe— guess if she got so much positive feedback from her first hook— positive feedback from her first book or— positive feedback from her first book or from — positive feedback from her first book or from from _ positive feedback from her first book or from from the free love that— book or from from the free love that hot— book or from from the free love that just gehhg— book or from from the free love that just getting any blowback is that just getting any blowback ho enough.— that just getting any blowback he ehowgh. ho— that just getting any blowback is enough. do you think that mayhe— is enough. do you think that maybe authors— is enough. do you think that maybe authors should be toughened— maybe authors should be toughened up— maybe authors should be toughened up something go on a . hiwoh— toughened up something go on a course . i just have— toughened up something go on a course . i just have people course. i just have people ohowhhg— course. i just have people shouting-them- course. i just have people shouting them . what they shouting at them. what they owe — shouting at them. what they coho-oh— shouting at them. what they oowho-oh-ho- shouting at them. what they could .of-is comej shouting at them. what they. could .of-is come on could do, of course, is come on oh — could do, of course, is come on oh wowe— could do, of course, is come on oh how ahe— could do, of course, is come on gb news and state— could do, of course, is come on gb news and state their opinion and thev'll— gb news and state their opinion and they'll go— gb news and state their opinion and they'll get-of- gb news and state their opinion and they'll get of lovely and they'll get lots of lovely tweete— and they'll get lots of lovely tweetslyou_ and they'll get lots of lovely tweetslyou hw— and they'll get lots of lovely tweets you try and attack tweets if you try and attack hump. — tweets if you try and attack hump. anyway.- tweets if you try and attack trump. ' y f: tweets if you try and attack- trump. anyway,-could. she trump. anyway, she could. she could start with reading george orwell's alternative preface to animal farm. he talked about the renegade— animal farm. he talked about the renegade liberal,— animal farm. he talked about the renegade liberal, you— ' 1“ he talked about the renegade liberal, you know, bad regimes— renegade liberal, you know, bad eghheo hoo— renegade liberal, you know, bad regimes, bad totalitaire eghheo— regimes, bad totalitaire regimes, banned books. but the powerh— regimes, banned books. but the wohheh, vou— regimes, banned books. but the problem, you know, one of the heowhor— problem, you know, one of the peculiar phenomena of our time is peculiar phenomena of our time he i..— peculiar phenomena of our time is the intelligence— peculiar phenomena of our time is the intelligence of voluntarily- is the intelligence of voluntarily censor themselves. wee— voluntarily censor themselves. we're our own books . so we're banning our own books. so she we're banning our own books. so ohe heede— we're banning our own books. so ohe heeoo ho— we're banning our own books. so she needs to step— we're banning our own books. so she needs to step away from the poth— she needs to step away from the

hath-the— she needs to step away from the path .the renegade _ she needs to step away from the path the renegade liberal and path of the renegade liberal and grow— path of the renegade liberal and grow-backbone— path of the renegade liberal and grow backbone perhaps grow some backbone and perhaps rewrhe— grow some backbone and perhaps rewrhe tho— grow some backbone and perhaps rewrite this book— grow some backbone and perhaps rewrite this book get better rewrite this book so get better reviews . can— rewrite this book so get better reviews . can you— rewrite this book so get better reviews . c5 1“ 5.5. rewrite this book so get better reviews . c51“ 55 5 55 reviews. can you tell us quickly about your new book? yes, i've got a new book out— about your new book? yes, i've got a new book out in- 1 7 yes, i've got a new book out in july cahoo— got a new book out in july called free— got a new book out in july called free your- got a new book out in july called free your mind. hoohoouw— called free your mind. basically, after a state of e...— basically, after a state of fear, which _ basically, after a state of fear, which was my reaction to the— fear, which was my reaction to he epiphany— fear, which was my reaction to he ephhohw oh— fear, which was my reaction to the epiphany of lockdown that so many— the epiphany of lockdown that so many of— the epiphany of lockdown that so many of ow— the epiphany of lockdown that so many of our freedoms were huwoow— many of our freedoms were illusory governments wield illusory and governments wield propaganda— illusory and governments wield propaganda people follow propaganda to make people follow the-.— propaganda to make people follow the-. so— propaganda to make people follow the-. so h— propaganda to make people follow the-. so i teamed— propaganda to make people follow the . so i teamed up with the rules. so i teamed up with an ex cambridge— the rules. so i teamed up with an ex cambridge analytica howohohoghoh— an ex cambridge analytica powohohogheh .— an ex cambridge analytica psychologist, very talented oowohohogheh— psychologist, very talented psychologist, called patrick hogan— psychologist, called patrick hogoh .— psychologist, called patrick hogoh . aho— psychologist, called patrick fagan . and what we want is for fagan. and what we want is for peopie— fagan. and what we want is for people to— fagan. and what we want is for people ho hoot— fagan. and what we want is for people to feel psychologically reohhehh— people to feel psychologically resilient-learn— people to feel psychologically resilient learn how to resilient and learn how to deflect— resilient and learn how to deflect. myriad - resilient and learn how to deflect myriad of deflect the myriad of manipulations. you know, this is a manipulations. you know, this is o show— manipulations. you know, this is o ohow cahoo— manipulations. you know, this is a show called free— manipulations. you know, this is a show called free speech wohoh— a show called free speech wohoh hw— a show called free speech nation, but the _ a show called free speech nation, but the fact is that hee— nation, but the fact is that hoe opeeoh— nation, but the fact is that free speech means little without hee— free speech means little without hoe rhinos.— free speech means little without free minds. and— free speech means little without free minds. and we both believe hot— free minds. and we both believe that hhoo— free minds. and we both believe that minds are— free minds. and we both believe that minds are wondrous and ooh-h— that minds are wondrous and ooh-h heed— that minds are wondrous and don't need to— that minds are wondrous and don't need to be— that minds are wondrous and don't need to be protected from language— don't need to be protected from hohgwoge h— don't need to be protected from language in books— don't need to be protected from language in books of 50 years ago— language in books of 50 years ago hot— language in books of 50 years ago that we— language in books of 50 years ago that we need— language in books of 50 years ago that we need to learn how to eoe— ago that we need to learn how to read ,_ ago that we need to learn how to wood , eoohheoe— ago that we need to learn how to read , recognise and— ago that we need to learn how to read , recognise and deflect the read, recognise and deflect the attempte— read, recognise and deflect the ohehhho oh— read, recognise and deflect the attempts of manipulation and be ooweeheh— attempts of manipulation and be ooweeheh oh— attempts of manipulation and be sovereign of our— attempts of manipulation and be sovereign of our own minds. '“5 sovereign of our own minds. and do you— sovereign of our own minds. and do you whoo— sovereign of our own minds. and do you what quick— sovereign of our own minds. and do you what quick tip could you give us how to get to that

point? read books, read lots of books, and deliberately read books, and deliberately read books that will challenge you. i you should constantly be i think you should constantly be oohowhhg— i think you should constantly be oohowhhe o— i think you should constantly be consuming a variety of new sources and reading books, eoohg— sources and reading books, reading through printed material is reading through printed material ho n...— reading through printed material he the hoot— reading through printed material ho the hot wow— reading through printed material is the best way to _ reading through printed material is the best way to inform your mind.— is the best way to inform your hho. rather— is the best way to inform your mind. rather than pictures and videos— mind. rather than pictures and videos .— mind. rather than pictures and videos , oo— mind. rather than pictures and videos , as we— mind. rather than pictures and videos , as we do— mind. rather than pictures and videos , as we do have chapters videos, as we do have chapters on on on screens,— videos, as we do have chapters on on on screens, on tv and ooohoh— on on on screens, on tv and ooohoh medio— on on on screens, on tv and social media. but- on on on screens, on tv and social media. but it's also about— social media. but it's also about psychological principles . about psychological principles. it's about psychological principles. h-o ohowh— about psychological principles. it's about learning how to eoohhgoe— it's about learning how to recognise lies,— it's about learning how to recognise lies, the ways in which— recognise lies, the ways in whhoh wow-h— recognise lies, the ways in which you'll be- recognise lies, the ways in which you'll be manipulated , which you'll be manipulated, oheh— which you'll be manipulated, often through— which you'll be manipulated, often through emotion. if you hook— often through emotion. if you hook oh— often through emotion. if you look at elizabeth— often through emotion. if you look at elizabeth gilbert's response, it's— look at elizabeth gilbert's response, it's really dripping with— response, it's really dripping with emotion.— response, it's really dripping with emotion. she hasn't made an hheheowohw— with emotion. she hasn't made an intellectually well— with emotion. she hasn't made an intellectually well thought out response choice— intellectually well thought out response choice to publishing a hook.— response choice to publishing a hook. — response choice to publishing a hook. so— response choice to publishing a book. so first— response choice to publishing a book. so first step— response choice to publishing a book. so first step is- response choice to publishing a book. �*7 book. so first step is to free your mind is to buy and read your mind is to buy and read your book, free your mind. an excellent first step. i like it. well excellent first step. i like it. won honk— excellent first step. i like it. well thank you _ excellent first step. i like it. well thank you very- cjkcjivqlccc�* �*7 i like it. well thank you very much cjkcjivqlccc" �*7 i like it. well thank you very much for oohhg— well thank you very much for coming h. — well thank you very much for coming in. laura— well thank you very much for coming in. 13: 5 w5 ” coming in. laura doddie weir, thank you very much. still to come, does being— thank you very much. still to come, does being out- thank you very much. still to come, does being out in- “5151“ 1“51“ still to come, does being out in the garden— come, does being out in the garden entail— come, does being out in the garden entail a— come, does being out in the garden entail a responsibility to wooe— garden entail a responsibility to dress reservedly? w5 a to dress reservedly? we'll meet the gardening mum who shocks her locals with her attire ,

locals with her attire, something she to look forward to. see you then .

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me josh howie . what nation with me josh howie. what do you wear while doing the gardening? that may seem like a mundane question, but in the village of birchanger essex, it's become a topic of heated debate. married mum lucy , debate. married mum lucy, nicola. nicola likes to don some fairly racy outfits when she grabs the garden shears, but while that may delight her many fans on social media, other villagers are less impressed that should we continue to look like scruffs when we head out to mow the lawn? or is it time to glam up our gardening? here to help answer that is lucy nicola herself. good evening, lucy . hi

herself. good evening, lucy. hi if i may be so bold, you're looking particularly glamorous this evening. thank you. is this one of your shearing outfits? i have been known to wear this in the garden. yes. wow. i'm not getting grass stains on it. i do wear my wellies. oh, you- 5 “5 5 51“ c i do wear my wellies. oh, you do? won,— wear my wellies. oh, you do? woh oo— wear my wellies. oh, you do? who so the— wear my wellies. oh, you do? wait, so the wellies with shoes are wait, so the wellies with shoes o no go, hw— wait, so the wellies with shoes are a no go, but i— wait, so the wellies with shoes are a no go, but i do wear my wehheo— are a no go, but i do wear my wehheo. okay— are a no go, but i do wear my wellies. okay but— are a no go, but i do wear my wellies. okay but for me, goroehhg— wellies. okay but for me, gardening and— wellies. okay but for me, gardening and to be glam in the garden— gardening and to be glam in the garden-something— gardening and to be glam in the garden something i'm really garden is something i'm really oooohohohe— garden is something i'm really passionate-h— garden is something i'm really passionate-i love- garden is something i'm really passionate i love to own passionate about. i love to own the— passionate about. i love to own the garden,— passionate about. i love to own the garden, feel— passionate about. i love to own the garden, feel sexy and feel ghohorowo— the garden, feel sexy and feeli glamorous _and glamorous. fair enough. and i mean, is this gardening? is this done?is mean, is this gardening? is this done? is it a private garden? i mean, i can't imagine why people are upset about it. yeah, my own garden— are upset about it. yeah, my own garden .— are upset about it. yeah, my own garden , h— are upset about it. yeah, my own goroeh , h ho— are upset about it. yeah, my own goroeh , h ho oh— are upset about it. yeah, my own garden , it is on a— are upset about it. yeah, my own garden , it is on a main- 551: c. 5 yeah, my own garden , it is on a main road 55 c. 5 yeah, my own garden , it is on a main road so garden, it is on a main road so peopie— garden, it is on a main road so people whi— garden, it is on a main road so people will drive— garden, it is on a main road so people will drive past all the car crashes that— people will drive past all the car crashes that i— people will drive past all the car crashes that i do get. ' car crashes that i do get. a lot of people— car crashes that i do get. a lot of people just— car crashes that i do get. a lot of people just slowing down. here we go. there's an image of you there and you are sort of, i don't know, camouflaged, really . i'm blending in. you are hhehohg— . i'm blending in. you are hhehohg h— i'm blending in. you are blending in there. : blending in there. i'm surprised that— blending in there. i'm surprised that people would even even notice. got some more notice. we've got some more images. there we go. hello. images. oh, there we go. hello. bottom i'm so this is you. and are you in your heels there? no

no, no. i don't do heels. i ooh-h— no, no. i don't do heels. i ooh-h oo— no, no. i don't do heels. i don't do heels. _ i don't do heels. i don't do heels. when gardening. no, don't do heels. when gardening. wo-wowo— don't do heels. when gardening. no,-would not— don't do heels. when gardening. no,-would not be- don't do heels. when gardening. no, would not be practical. no, that would not be practical. no, that would not be practical. wolwowo— no, that would not be practical. no iwould-stuck- no, that would not be practical. nonould-stuck in- no, that would not be practical. no would stuck in the no i would get stuck in the ghee— no i would get stuck in the ghee-h— no i would get stuck in the ghee-h hush— no i would get stuck in the grass it just wouldn't grass and it just wouldn't hoppeh — grass and it just wouldn't- hohheh —hhh happen. so. fair enough. flip hope.— happen. so. fair enough. flip hope. weo.— happen. so. fair enough. flip flops. yes. and— happen. so. fair enough. flip flops. yes. and my wellies, i am just— flops. yes. and my wellies, i am iwoh h— flops. yes. and my wellies, i am iwoh h oo— flops. yes. and my wellies, i am just h oo rook— flops. yes. and my wellies, i am just i do rock the— flops. yes. and my wellies, i am just i do rock the wellies. i owe— just i do rock the wellies. i hove the— just i do rock the wellies. i love the wellies. - just i do rock the wellies. i love the wellies. feel sexy love the wellies. i feel sexy ahe— love the wellies. i feel sexy one-hw— love the wellies. i feel sexy one-huh .- love the wellies. i feel sexy and-but i just- love the wellies. i feel sexy and but i just feel and wellies, but i just feel gardening-— and wellies, but i just feel gardening. why can't it be glam? i gardening. why can't it be glam? h hhhh— gardening. why can't it be glam? h hhhh h-o— gardening. why can't it be glam? i think it's more— gardening. why can't it be glam? i think it's more associated with— i think it's more associated whh the— i think it's more associated with the older— i think it's more associated with the older generation . anne with the older generation. anne aho— with the older generation. anne who peopie— with the older generation. anne and people whi— with the older generation. anne and people will go out in old ohohheo— and people will go out in old ohohheo .— and people will go out in old clothes , but— and people will go out in old clothes , but i— and people will go out in old clothes , but i don't feel that's clothes, but i don't feel that's me— clothes, but i don't feel that's me . .— clothes, but i don't feel that's me . h hhe— clothes, but i don't feel that's me . h he to— clothes, but i don't feel that's me . i like to feel— clothes, but i don't feel that's me . i like to feel grey. i like me. i like to feel grey. i like to foot— me. i like to feel grey. i like to feel comfortable. i like to foot— to feel comfortable. i like to heeh sexy— to feel comfortable. i like to heeh oew .— to feel comfortable. i like to feel sexy . after— to feel comfortable. i like to feel sexy . after all, i'm feel sexy. after all, i'm planting— feel sexy. after all, i'm planting beauty. that's what i'm done— planting beauty. that's what i'm oohe h— planting beauty. that's what i'm oohe h the— planting beauty. that's what i'm doing in the garden. i'm phohhhe— doing in the garden. i'm planting beauty. people will ooh— planting beauty. people will stop ho— planting beauty. people will shop ho howe— planting beauty. people will stop to have a— planting beauty. people will stop to have a look at beautiful flowers.— stop to have a look at beautiful howero. so— stop to have a look at beautiful flowers. so why— stop to have a look at beautiful flowers. so why can't i feel as heowhhw— flowers. so why can't i feel as beautiful as— flowers. so why can't i feel as beautiful as my— flowers. so why can't i feel as beautiful as my flowers? that's a beautiful as my flowers? that's o gooe— beautiful as my flowers? that's o good weo.— beautiful as my flowers? that's a good idea. that's my philosophy-_ a good idea. that's my philosophy-a. a good idea. that's my philosophy. a very a good idea. that's my- philosophy. -a very good philosophy. that's a very good phhooohhw. — philosophy. that's a very good philosophy- _y°u| philosophy. that's a very good- philosophy. _you think philosophy. i mean, do you think in ways that being dressed in some ways that being dressed up might help flowers up might even help the flowers to she's to perform? they're like, she's made effort . i better. i made an effort. i better. i better bloomberg. i actually feel i'm .competition - 5 i actually feel i'm competition with feel i'm in competition with these— feel i'm in competition with these-because- feel i'm in competition with these because my these flowers because my flowers,— these flowers because my howero, hw— these flowers because my flowers, my hanging baskets are wherew— flowers, my hanging baskets are literally-beaming,— flowers, my hanging baskets are literally beaming, absolutely literally be beaming, absolutely heowhhw— literally be beaming, absolutely heowhhw . — literally be beaming, absolutely

beautiful. ineed_ literally be beaming, absolutely beautiful . ineed to- literally be beaming, absolutely beautiful . : beautiful. i need to look as good as these plants. very good. and that is, you're not like a sort of evil witch where if they look than you, be look better than you, you'll be like, you'll destroy oh, like, you'll destroy them. oh, a bit competition. but no, no, bit of competition. but no, no, we just eat. it's just. yeah, they're my little babies and i love them. and i talk to them. i love them. and i talk to them. i love my plants, love my flowers and so, so passionate about gardening. fair enough. but thee— gardening. fair enough. but there hoo— gardening. fair enough. but there has been— 5: “5 fair enough. but there has been some pushback in wow— there has been some pushback in wow-h— there has been some pushback in your-i understand. - your village. i understand. and i yourvillage. i understand. and hhwe— yourvillage. i understand. and woe-home— yourvillage. i understand. and i live-name and— your village. i understand. and i live name and shame right i live in a name and shame right now . i i live in a name and shame right now. i live i live in a name and shame right now . i live in i live in a name and shame right now. i live in a small i live in a name and shame right now . i live in a small village now. i live in a small village and, you know, a lot of a lot of the villagers absolutely love it. they compliment me all the time, which is great. but you will get people that go, what on earth wearing? does earth is she wearing? why does she the need to dress like she feel the need to dress like that when she's in the garden and up and down with and i do stride up and down with my lawnmower i'm on my lawnmower like i'm on a catwalk because as i feel great and i want do that and yeah, and i want to do that and yeah, i just don't think i and i want to do that and yeah, ijust don't think i get and i want to do that and yeah, i just don't think i get the approval. not of everybody. i approval. not of everybody. as i said, people do said, lots of people do compliment the time. they compliment me all the time. they will just lucy, you are so, will just say, lucy, you are so, so glamorous and i it. so glamorous and i love it. i love that compliment. and i

think lovely think that's that's a lovely compliment to receive a compliment to receive a compliment outfit or compliment for your outfit or for your flowers. both oh, really? so if someone- really? so if someone came for your flowers. both oh,- really? so if someone came along ahe— really? so if someone came along and owe,— really? so if someone came along and owe, how— really? so if someone came along and said, hey, that's— really? so if someone came along and said, hey, that's a nice owhhh— and said, hey, that's a nice outfit, you'll— and said, hey, that's a nice outfit, you'll be— and said, hey, that's a nice outfit, you'll be like, excuse howe— outfit, you'll be like, excuse hove wow— outfit, you'll be like, excuse me, have you seen these roses? ho.— me, have you seen these roses? ho. h— me, have you seen these roses? ho. h mem— me, have you seen these roses? ho. h vou— me, have you seen these roses? no. i mean, you know,- me, have you seen these roses? no. i mean, you know, the- no. i mean, you know, the flowers are the compliments all the time, but. oh, no. do you know what? both got be know what? both it's got to be both highly demanding. both be very highly demanding. person yeah, i think it's just me— person yeah, i think it's just moo-he— person yeah, i think it's just nice be complimented . 3:55“ nice to be complimented. well, the who— nice to be complimented. well, the first-you've— nice to be complimented. well, the first you've inspired the first thing you've inspired me because what going to do me because what i'm going to do is is i'm going earn is now is i'm going to earn a lot more money and buy a place with a garden and then i will be able to dress up nice. i mean, obviously, i know— able to dress up nice. i mean, obviously, i know a— able to dress up nice. i mean, obviously, i know a lot- c. 1“ i mean, obviously, i know a lot of people— obviously, i know a lot of people haven't- obviously, i know a lot of people haven't got gardens, but i to people haven't got gardens, but h—oo oreooe- people haven't got gardens, but i_to create that- i think trying to create that hmoge— i think trying to create that hmogel— i think trying to create that hmogel, wow— i think trying to create that image , you know, i think trying to create that image., you know, so image of, you know, there's so mom— image of, you know, there's so mom-wow— image of, you know, there's so mom-wow oh- image of, you know, there's so many-you can do- image of, you know, there's so many you can do to bring many things you can do to bring home— many things you can do to bring home-wow— many things you can do to bring nature .your-into- nature into your place, into wow— nature into your place, into wow h— nature into your place, into wow h wow— nature into your place, into your if you live— nature into your place, into your if you live in a flat, you oo— your if you live in a flat, you can do window— your if you live in a flat, you can do window boxes, you can do hohghg— can do window boxes, you can do hohghg-wow— can do window boxes, you can do hanging-vou-bringl hanging baskets, you can bring phono— hanging baskets, you can bring plants-there's— hanging baskets, you can bring plants-there's so- hanging baskets, you can bring plants “55 5.1“ plants in. there's so much beauty can create art. you beauty you can create art. you don't need to have a garden. and i love just look, you know, look at people's think, oh at people's places and think, oh god, that would look nice there at people's places and think, oh gothat at would look nice there at people's places and think, oh gothat would ld look nice there at people's places and think, oh gothat would look 3k nice there at people's places and think, oh gothat would look nice.:e there at people's places and think, oh gothat would look nice. theree

or that would look nice. there and just so passionate and i'm so just so passionate about it. i just want to glam britain and just it all britain up and just make it all look lovely. and there's nothing wrong with that. and just promote— wrong with that. and just promote gardening- 5 and just promote gardening in it's cool. oohoemhg—hool gardening is cool. no, it's not a you shouldn't a boring thing. you shouldn't shy away from a passion because i've taken up gardening. when i was in my 20s and i feel that i sort of shied away if i was like, oh, i'm out doing my gardening. and i felt almost a bit embarrassed to admit that i was a keen gardener at 20. and i just want to say for the younger generation that gardening is great. it just works amazing . it great. it just works amazing. it does amazing things for your mental health. it's great exercise and it's just a great thing to get into. and then when wow-we— thing to get into. and then when you've finished— thing to get into. and then when you've finished with— thing to get into. and then when you've finished with a— “5 55. and then when you've finished with a day of gardening— you've finished with a day of gardening .— you've finished with a day of gardening, what— you've finished with a day of gardening, what do you do? you go hoo— gardening, what do you do? you go hoo g..— gardening, what do you do? you go into the conservatory and then— go into the conservatory and then wow— go into the conservatory and hen you goo— go into the conservatory and then you put on— go into the conservatory and then you put on your jeans and t ohhh. — then you put on your jeans and t ohhh. wow.— then you put on your jeans and t shirt. now, when— then you put on your jeans and t shirt. now, when i— then you put on your jeans and t shirt. who 1“ �*7 1“ : shirt. now, when i finished doing my gardening, i would just sit and admire the hard work that i've put into the gardening, that is just an gardening, and that is just an amazing part. then i'll sort amazing part. but then i'll sort of strip if it's hot of strip down maybe if it's hot into my bikini or yeah,

into maybe my bikini or yeah, i'll do like my bikini. well, i want to ask one question. i hope this isn't too personal,- want to ask one question. i hope this isn't too personal, but- 51“ i hope this isn't too personal, but if when...— this isn't too personal, but if whether wow— this isn't too personal, but if whether your partner or if wow-re— whether your partner or if you're—i'ml you're married. yeah, i'm momeo— you're married. yeah, i'm married. married. and married. you're married. and does— married. you're married. and does he— married. you're married. and does he or— married. you're married. and does he or she?— married. you're married. and does he or she? they mind you does he or she? do they mind you hoo— does he or she? do they mind you ho. ho. — does he or she? do they mind you ho. woo. woo— does he or she? do they mind you not. not. not what— does he or she? do they mind you not. not. not what you're weoohg— not. not. not what you're ooeoehg ug— not. not. not what you're dressing up as.- not. not. not what you're dressing up as. is this dressing up as. but is this who,— dressing up as. but is this who-honw- dressing up as. but is this like, happy because like, are they happy because thev're— like, are they happy because ohewhe hoo— like, are they happy because they're not having to do the goooehhge — they're not having to do the gardening? and- they're not having to do the gardening? '1“5 : they're not having to do the- gardening? and-husband bless gardening? and my husband bless him, he just he i've actually got him involved in gardening . got him involved in gardening. in a tuxedo, in a tuxedo ? yeah. in a tuxedo, in a tuxedo? yeah. he just he he loves gardening now. i mean, he gets excited when he sees the plants, but he is. are you sure? the plants. he-o— is. are you sure? the plants. he-o exoheo— are you sure? the plants. he's excited about? 5 he's excited about? he loves my ghom — he's excited about? he loves my glam side of gardening. he loves that i'm. i'm the glamorous gardener. i'm the glamour gardener. i'm the glamour gardener. that's what i'm. i'm the glamour gardener. and also, you do most-the— the glamour gardener. and also, you do most-the heavy- you do most of the heavy hhhg— you do most of the heavy lifting-he's- you do most of the heavy lifting. he's happy with that lifting. so he's happy with that . aho— lifting. so he's happy with that . who-hem.— lifting. so he's happy with that . who-veoh. .— lifting. so he's happy with that . and-yeah, i yeah.- lifting. so he's happy with that . and i do. yeah, i yeah. rock the mower. and. and what about the mower. and. and what about the wooe— the mower. and. and what about the hose ho— the mower. and. and what about the kids? do-have_ the mower. and. and what about the kids? do-have kids?- ' 5 and what about the kids? do have kids? ' “5 and what about the kids? do have kids? j5 the kids? do you have kids? do they— the kids? do you have kids? do they howe— the kids? do you have kids? do they hove owo — the kids? do you have kids? do they have two children?- the kids? do you have kids? do they have two children? yeah, my daughter's not really into gardening. she's not gardening. she's 16. she's not so gardening. she's16. she's not so gardening. but my son, so into gardening. but my son, bless starting bless him, who's13, is starting to get bless him, who's 13, is starting

to get into it bless him, who's13, is starting to get into it now. he. he really enjoys it. and yeah , he's really enjoys it. and yeah, he's hopefully he'll be like me or not glam . nothing wrong with not glam. nothing wrong with being glam but. but yeah, sort of. being glam but. but yeah, sort oh howe— being glam but. but yeah, sort of. david bowie— being glam but. but yeah, sort of. david bowie of— “5 5 but yeah, sort of. david bowie of young goooehero— of. david bowie of young gardeners could but but but it's just gardeners could but but but it's hot o— gardeners could but but but it's hot o huh— gardeners could but but but it's just o huh .— gardeners could but but but it's just a fun , exciting hobby to just a fun, exciting hobby to toke— just a fun, exciting hobby to oohe wh— just a fun, exciting hobby to oohe up one— just a fun, exciting hobby to oohe up one h— just a fun, exciting hobby to take up and i would love more peopie— take up and i would love more people oo— take up and i would love more people ho geo— take up and i would love more people to get involved with it. won,— people to get involved with it. won, h— people to get involved with it. won, h ohhh— people to get involved with it. well, i think your— people to get involved with it. well, i think your passion is ohoohwoew— well, i think your passion is absolutely come— well, i think your passion is absolutely come through. i'm owe-peopie— absolutely come through. i'm sure-people will- absolutely come through. i'm sure people will get into sure more people will get into it sure more people will get into h ono— sure more people will get into it and hopefully— sure more people will get into it and hopefully they'll dress up ooooodhghw— it and hopefully they'll dress up accordingly. nicole, up accordingly. lucy nicole, ohohh— up accordingly. lucy nicole, mom—hor- up accordingly. lucy nicole,. thank—forjoining thank you so much for joining us. thank you so much for joining wo-wow — thank you so much for joining wo-wow hhohh- thank you so much for joining us.-you. thank you. l thank you so much for joining- us.-you. thank you. thank us. thank you. thank you. thank you thank you . all you so much. thank you. all right. that's it for the first how— right. that's it for the first how of— right. that's it for the first how of g..— right. that's it for the first hour of the show. - 5 5“ that's it for the first hour of the show. but plenty stin— hour of the show. but plenty still to— hour of the show. but plenty still to come,— hour of the show. but plenty still to come, including michael shellenberger— still to come, including michael shellenberger on— still to come, including michael shellenberger on his new free speech — shellenberger on his new free speech campaign. more questions from— speech campaign. more questions from-lovely— speech campaign. more questions from-lovely-and- speech campaign. more questions from lovely and the from our lovely audience and the man—park- man who charged car park visitors— man who charged car park visitors-to— man who charged car park visitors-to-like. visitors £10 to park like a wauy— visitors £10 to park like a wauy .— visitors £10 to park like a wauy . lots— visitors £10 to park like a wally . lots to— visitors £10 to park like a wally . lots to get through. look wally. lots to get through. look forward— wally. lots to get through. look forward to— wally. lots to get through. look forward to having— wally. lots to get through. look forward to having you with us. see— forward to having you with us. see-then. — forward to having you with us. see .then. thank- forward to having you with us. see then. thank you

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been taken. the reason why those seepe— been taken. the reason why those steps — been taken. the reason why those steps were taken— been taken. the reason why those steps were taken was— been taken. the reason why those steps were taken was to- " " the reason why those steps were taken was to reduce the speed— steps were taken was to reduce we speed of— steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the— steps were taken was to reduce the spread of the disease in order— the spread of the disease in order we— the spread of the disease in order to make— the spread of the disease in order to make sure that the pressures on the- order to make sure that the pressures on the nhs were manageable— pressures on the nhs were manageable in— pressures on the nhs were manageable in order to make sure wee— manageable in order to make sure that we— manageable in order to make sure that we cowe— manageable in order to make sure that we could treat— manageable in order to make sure that we could treat people who wew— that we could treat people who very in.— that we could treat people who were very ill. so— that we could treat people who were very ill. so again, the actions— were very ill. so again, the actions here— were very ill. so again, the actions here are- were very ill. so again, the actions here are deeply distressing— actions here are deeply distressing and i can only apologise— distressing and i can only apologise to— distressing and i can only apologise to people that individuals— apologise to people that individuals behaved in this way - my— individuals behaved in this way . my understanding is that there was an investigation into the party— was an investigation into the party when— was an investigation into the party when we— was an investigation into the party when the photograph emerged— party when the photograph emerged and— party when the photograph emerged and people were disciplined— emerged and people were disciplined .— emerged and people were disciplined . well, mps will disciplined. well, mps will debate— disciplined. well, mps will dedade aw— disciplined. well, mps will debate any possible punishment for debate any possible punishment faa wade— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson— debate any possible punishment for boris johnson tomorrow after he for boris johnson tomorrow after we wa— for boris johnson tomorrow after we faded— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to— for boris johnson tomorrow after he was found to have misled paddamewa— he was found to have misled parliament over— he was found to have misled parliament over partygate the wwdedee— parliament over partygate the privileges committee recommended that privileges committee recommended wedde— privileges committee recommended dear dre farmer— privileges committee recommended that the former prime minister shedd— that the former prime minister ewawdd race— that the former prime minister should face a— that the former prime minister should face a 90— that the former prime minister should face a 90 day suspension wad— should face a 90 day suspension had we— should face a 90 day suspension had we war— should face a 90 day suspension had he not already— should face a 90 day suspension had he not already resigned in adawe— had he not already resigned in adawe ar— had he not already resigned in advance of that— had he not already resigned in advance of that judgement. \er3w advance of that judgement. now it's understood— advance of that judgement. now it's understood that— advance of that judgement. now it's understood that his supporters are being encouraged to abstain . but former brexit to abstain. but former brexit secretary david davis told camilla tominey he will support the committee . one of the things the committee. one of the things adder— the committee. one of the things about parliament— the committee. one of the things about parliament is—

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this is gb news. back now to josh and free speech nation . who josh and free speech nation. who . welcome back to free speech nation. a wonderful audience has joined— nation. a wonderful audience has joined we— nation. a wonderful audience has joined we were— a wonderful audience has joined us here tonight. so let's put joined us here tonight. so let's par daem— joined us here tonight. so let's par deem ra— joined us here tonight. so let's put them to work.— joined us here tonight. so let's put them to work. our next dreaded— put them to work. our next dweedaw de— put them to work. our next question is from - put them to work. our next question is from jeff prior . question is from jeff prior. shedd— question is from jeff prior. should should— question is from jeff prior. should should a— question is from jeff prior. should should a man- question is from jeff prior. should should a man sorry, should a man always give up their seat for a pregnant woman ? so a man sparked a huge debate addre— ? so a man sparked a huge debate awdwe dare— ? so a man sparked a huge debate online this week— 7’ so a man sparked a huge debate online this week after refusing to online this week after refusing re dwe— online this week after refusing do give up— online this week after refusing do give up we— online this week after refusing to give up his seat for what he carded— to give up his seat for what he eaded aw— to give up his seat for what he called an entitled— to give up his seat for what he called an entitled pregnant woman who asked him to move. but the woman who asked him to move. but dre mar— woman who asked him to move. but dre dame— woman who asked him to move. but the man claims that— woman who asked him to move. but the man claims that he had a dead— the man claims that he had a dead eewee— the man claims that he had a good excuse. he'd— the man claims that he had a good excuse. he'd taken a fold up good excuse. he'd taken a fold we draw— good excuse. he'd taken a fold up draw wide— good excuse. he'd taken a fold up chair with him _ good excuse. he'd taken a fold up chair with him and camped out earw— up chair with him and camped out earw ra— up chair with him and camped out earw re der— up chair with him and camped out early to get front— up chair with him and camped out early to get front row seats for a redadwe-e— early to get front row seats for a relative's graduation ceremony. now, cressida , what do ceremony. now, cressida, what do you ceremony. now, cressida, what do we dwar— ceremony. now, cressida, what do you draw adder— ceremony. now, cressida, what do you think about this ? c, you think about this? give me a sear.— you think about this? give me a dear. raw— you think about this? give me a seat. you know,— you think about this? give me a seat. you know, he brought the seat. you know, he brought the seat. he bought the seat. he brought the seat with him because he's got ill health and

felt he couldn't did he felt he couldn't stand. did he bnng felt he couldn't stand. did he bring foetus ? no, but why bring the foetus? no, but why didn't she bring a seat if she knew if he hadn't been there , knew if he hadn't been there, there wouldn't have been any seats. see. this is like some seats. i see. this is like some awrdaeapwead— this is like some philosophical conundrum here, wardr— philosophical conundrum here, which earne— philosophical conundrum here, which came first?— philosophical conundrum here, which came first? the pregnant or de— which came first? the pregnant woman or the seat? i understand . wean.— woman or the seat? i understand . wean. dwe— woman or the seat? i understand . mean, i've never— woman or the seat? i understand . mean, i've never been- . mean, i've never been pregnant. people say you get baby don't they? you'd be baby brain, don't they? you'd be more expert that than more of an expert on that than me. you think maybe she just me. do you think maybe she just got a bit over entitled? got a little bit over entitled? i don't think entitled is the right here. i think that right word here. i think that dere— right word here. i think that there - definitely - there is a definitely a misunderstanding because from my understanding— misunderstanding because from my understanding-also- understanding this he also deadw— understanding this he also bought because he bought the seat because he has headdr— bought the seat because he has health-himself.- bought the seat because he has health himself. right. bought the seat because he has healthis himself. right. bought the seat because he has healthis with himself. right. bought the seat because he has healthis with him knees ight. bought the seat because he has healthis with him knees and his with his with his knees and his deer— with his with his knees and his deer-idea— with his with his knees and his deer-idea dereg— with his with his knees and his feet-just being a- with his with his knees and his feet just being a wimp. yeah feet and just being a wimp. yeah i feet and just being a wimp. yeah r dwar— feet and just being a wimp. yeah r dww drew— feet and just being a wimp. yeah i think they should— feet and just being a wimp. yeah i think they should have just had— i think they should have just had-oppression- i think they should have just had oppression and find had an oppression of and find out had an oppression of and find ear-dre— had an oppression of and find out-the most- had an oppression of and find out the most oppressed out who was the most oppressed in out who was the most oppressed we dear— out who was the most oppressed in that moment. _ out who was the most oppressed in that moment. the one who was most own most oppressed by their own health patriarchy gets health and the patriarchy gets to take the seat. you think deade— to take the seat. you think dear-e whar— to take the seat. you think that's what it— to take the seat. you think that's what it always- you think that's what it always comes down to? that's what it always comes down we de— that's what it always comes down to? the patriarchy— that's what it always comes down to? the patriarchy with you? read. — to? the patriarchy with you? read. exaddw— to? the patriarchy with you? yeah, exactly. exactly- to? the patriarchy with you? 54:35“ 53593200 xartlcr to? the patriarchy with you? / f f yeah, exactly. exactly so he should. do you know who i feel sorry her bloke? i don't sorry for is her bloke? i don't know. husband— sorry for is her bloke? i don't know. husband partner,- 7 i don't know. husband partner, wherever he know. husband partner, wherever we de— know. husband partner, wherever we is because— know. husband partner, wherever he is because he— know. husband partner, wherever he is because he sent he is because he was sent over

to he is because he was sent over ra-aew— he is because he was sent over ra-aew dwe— he is because he was sent over to-ask this-for- he is because he was sent overj to-ask this -for the to go and ask this chap for the sear— to go and ask this chap for the sear wee.— to go and ask this chap for the seat twice. he— to go and ask this chap for the seat twice. he kept getting sent back— seat twice. he kept getting sent back ra— seat twice. he kept getting sent back do dre— seat twice. he kept getting sent back to the front— seat twice. he kept getting sent back to the front line to go and argue— back to the front line to go and argue wer— back to the front line to go and argue wer ease— back to the front line to go and argue her case and— back to the front line to go and argue her case and he must have dwar— argue her case and he must have deer-awarded,— argue her case and he must have just-thinking, well,- argue her case and he must have just thinking, well, he just been thinking, well, he ewawdd— just been thinking, well, he should—justl just been thinking, well, he- ewawdd—iwer ger, should have done was just get, get—wees- should have done was just get,| get—knees-j'ust get down on his knees and just make— get down on his knees and just make a— get down on his knees and just make a-draw— get down on his knees and just make a-chair for- get down on his knees and just make a chair for her. make a human chair for her. perfect.— make a human chair for her. rerred. wes— make a human chair for her. perfect. he's the— make a human chair for her. perfect. he's the one- make a human chair for her. perfect. he's the one who got her pregnant. brilliant. well, we don't know that, josh oh, you see? do you think he's rebelling addre— see? do you think he's rebelling agadwer we — see? do you think he's rebelling against it? well,— see? do you think he's rebelling against it? well, no,— see? do you think he's rebelling against it? well, no, it- 7 do you think he's rebelling against it? �*fd�*rzgc 0 5 against it? well, no, it might not might. someone else not be. he might. someone else might a pregnant. now, might have got a pregnant. now, would would you give might have got a pregnant. now, would-would you give up. would you. would you give up wear— would you. would you give up your wad— would you. would you give up wear you redder— would you. would you give up your you might know some more dwfarmadaw— your you might know some more information-with- your you might know some more information. with the information. always with the eawepwaew— information. always with the. eawepwaew—dwr information. always with the. ew—dwr information. always with the. c mean, would _but information. always with the c mean, would you but information. always with the cmean, would you give but information. always with the c mean, would you give up but information. always with the c mean, would you give up your i mean, would you give up your ear— i mean, would you give up your sear-wide— i mean, would you give up your seat-with health- i mean, would you give up your seat-with health _orl seat even with health issues or were— seat even with health issues or ware—awe - seat even with health issues or ware—awe dr- seat even with health issues or not?_like it just. not? for me, it's like it just does— not? for me, it's like it just goes awr— not? for me, it's like it just are our ae— not? for me, it's like it just are ed as a— not? for me, it's like it just goes out as a no- not? for me, it's like it just goes out as a no brainer. i see a degrada— goes out as a no brainer. i see a pregnant woman. 0 a pregnant woman. i'm just like, read.— a pregnant woman. i'm just like, yeah, you're just a great guy. i'm a really good. he hasn't sadd— i'm a really good. he hasn't said which way yet. no, of course i would— said which way yet. no, of course i would give- 2 rt no, of course i would give her my seat dr— course i would give her my seat dr dre— course i would give her my seat d ewe ae— course i would give her my seat even if she was my— course i would give her my seat even if she was my wife, if i whar— even if she was my wife, if i was. what do— even if she was my wife, if i was. what do you- even if she was my wife, if i was. what do you think? do you if was. what do you think? do you d-ra— was. what do you think? do you dr-ra mare— was. what do you think? do you dr-ra make a- was. what do you think? do you if-to make a choice- if you had to make a choice adder— if you had to make a choice about wra— if you had to make a choice about who-in- if you had to make a choice about who .in the - if you had to make a choice about who in the wrong here, about who was in the wrong here, or wadd— about who was in the wrong here, or wawdd wad— about who was in the wrong here, or would you give _ about who was in the wrong here, or would you give up the seat or not— or would you give up the seat or war, wadd— or would you give up the seat or war, wawdd-wp— or would you give up the seat or not, would-up the- or would you give up the seat or not, would up the seat? not, would i give up the seat? it not, would i give up the seat? rr-aw— not, would i give up the seat? rr-aw my— not, would i give up the seat? it-on my health- not, would i give up the seat? it-on my health issuel it depends on my health issue and it depends on who is

watching. if it was just loads of angry i would give up of angry women, i would give up my it was blokes who my seat. if it was blokes who obviously care, be obviously don't care, i'd be like, really? you wouldn't like, no, really? you wouldn't warr— like, no, really? you wouldn't wawr ra— like, no, really? you wouldn't wawr re eer— like, no, really? you wouldn't want to set an— 0 \rr:3 ”r:3r5rc5r7’ you wouldn't want to set an example. i remember being no sort of ten remember being no sort often weare— remember being no sort often ware-dared- remember being no sort often weare-ddwd aw- remember being no sort of ten years going on school years old and going on a school wed— years old and going on a school wed-rude— years old and going on a school visit-tube and- years old and going on a school visit-tube and say,- years old and going on a school visit tube and say, oh, visit on the tube and say, oh, i remember saying,— visit on the tube and say, oh, i remember saying, would you like to remember saying, would you like ra err— remember saying, would you like do err rerea— remember saying, would you like do err weree r— remember saying, would you like to sit here? i said— remember saying, would you like to sit here? i said this to this dadw. — to sit here? i said this to this dadw. ard— to sit here? i said this to this dadw. add weare— to sit here? i said this to this lady. and yeah, we've been told to lady. and yeah, we've been told do give — lady. and yeah, we've been told do give up— lady. and yeah, we've been told do give up aw— lady. and yeah, we've been told to give up our seats to old deade— to give up our seats to old deade-wae- to give up our seats to old. people.-was probably to give up our seats to old- people.-was probably 22. people. and she was probably 22. she people. and she was probably 22. see-deepw— people. and she was probably 22. she-deepw warr- she looked deeply hurt by it. whar— she looked deeply hurt by it. what—christa?l she looked deeply hurt by it.- what_christa? was what do you think, christa? was he what do you think, christa? was we-wrawd— what do you think, christa? was we-wrawd dared- what do you think, christa? was he-wrong going to- what do you think, christa? was he wrong going to do? he in the wrong going to do? whar— he in the wrong going to do? what wa— he in the wrong going to do? what was-going- he in the wrong going to do? what was-going to - he in the wrong going to do? what was-going to do- he in the wrong going to do? what was-going to do if. what was she going to do if there was no seat? this is what i don't understand. it's not a situation where you expect seats. she's queue seats. she's gone to queue for the it's not. i the day. or maybe it's not. i dunnoif the day. or maybe it's not. i dunno if that was what- dunno if that was what she was planning— dunno if that was what she was awarded an— dunno if that was what she was awarded are de— dunno if that was what she was planning on the day out, but dere— planning on the day out, but drere ae— planning on the day out, but drere a— planning on the day out, but there was a seat— planning on the day out, but there was a seat there. i do wwdererawd— there was a seat there. i do understand what you're saying. of understand what you're saying. car-dre— understand what you're saying. or-rwe faer— understand what you're saying. of-the fact-this. of course. the fact that this person— of course. the fact that this pereaw deadw— of course. the fact that this person bought the seat, she ewawdd— person bought the seat, she| should—planned person bought the seat, she- should_planned ahead should have maybe planned ahead or should have maybe planned ahead ear—dre— should have maybe planned ahead ar—dre earne- or whatever, but at the same dwe— or whatever, but at the same dme we— or whatever, but at the same time we have— or whatever, but at the same time we have a— or whatever, but at the same time we have a human being in need.— time we have a human being in need. ree— time we have a human being in need. yes, heavily— time we have a human being in need. yes, heavily pregnant. i knew— need. yes, heavily pregnant. i wraww-a- need. yes, heavily pregnant. i know-was her- need. yes, heavily pregnant. i. know _was her choice. know that that was her choice. waywa— know that that was her choice. maybe they— know that that was her choice. maybe they should— know that that was her choice. maybe they should - playedj maybe they should have played music musical and music like musical chairs. and when it pile when they stopped, it just pile on. a brilliant on. they that's a brilliant idea.— on. they that's a brilliant idea. drew— on. they that's a brilliant idea. then that— 3:35 that's a brilliant idea. then that would be quite

rearw— idea. then that would be quite renew-ae— idea. then that would be quite rwww-ae wed.- idea. then that would be quite funny as well. right? our funny to see as well. right? our wear— funny to see as well. right? our wear-de— funny to see as well. right? our wear-re were — funny to see as well. right? our next-is from .email| next question is from our email acceded-dre— next question is from our email account,-it's from - next question is from our email account, it's from anna. so account, and it's from anna. so an adde— account, and it's from anna. so an article published in the were— an article published in thei rdmee—aw times this week carried an darerwew— times this week carried an interview famous chef times this week carried an- interview _famous chef who interview with a famous chef who rawed — interview with a famous chef who talked _culture- talked about kitchen culture in the talked about kitchen culture in wee-wow,— talked about kitchen culture in the-now,-wouldl the 1990s. now, chefs would arrea— the 1990s. now, chefs would often _hours- the 1990s. now, chefs would often - hours a - the 1990s. now, chefs would often hours a week the 1990s. now, chefs would- often-hours a week and often work 90 hours a week and wear— often work 90 hours a week and wear dare— often work 90 hours a week and what this person _ often work 90 hours a week and what this person has said is you ear-r— what this person has said is you and draw— what this person has said is you and draw ever— what this person has said is you can't only ever expect to do fun erwrr. —waw- can't only ever expect to do fun stuff. _work for- stuff. it's called work for a reason. so this— stuff. it's called work for a reason. so this raises the dweedaw— reason. so this raises the dweedaw ae— reason. so this raises the question are employees today expeedwd— expecting too much in the wawpdaee— expecting too much in the workplace and _ expecting too much in the workplace and whether work ewawdd — workplace and whether work should ever— workplace and whether work should ever be— workplace and whether work should ever be fun? what do you draw— should ever be fun? what do you draw r— should ever be fun? what do you draw r weare— should ever be fun? what do you think? i mean, we're having fun dwe— think? i mean, we're having fun were de— think? i mean, we're having fun now. this is-is_ think? i mean, we're having fun now. this is-is this- think? i mean, we're having fun now. this is is this work. now. this is this is this work. were— now. this is this is this work. were deer— now. this is this is this work. we're just hanging out. a couple of we're just hanging out. a couple or dreade— we're just hanging out. a couple or rrrewde ewe.— we're just hanging out. a couple of friends, guys. _ we're just hanging out. a couple of friends, guys. “r:3?" with our of friends, guys. yeah. with our deer— of friends, guys. yeah. with our deer dreade— of friends, guys. yeah. with our best friends in— of friends, guys. yeah. with our best friends in the— of friends, guys. “r:3?" with our best friends in the audience were. — best friends in the audience here. .dudes,- best friends in the audience here. .dudes, it- best friends in the audience here. .dudes, it is- best friends in the audience. here. .dudes, it is work, here. hey, dudes, it is work, josh and we're making it look like work, if i'm being honest. okay. can you see the sweat? is it. am i getting a bit. getting a shiny up there? biggest a bit shiny up there? biggest laugh entire show. laugh of the entire show. really? you all look, really? should you all but look, the really? should you all but look, dre rearw— really? should you all but look, dre readwlde— really? should you all but look, the reality-is you— really? should you all but look, the reality is you go to the reality is, is you go to wk,— the reality is, is you go to warw wad— the reality is, is you go to work, you have- the reality is, is you go to work, you have a dreadful time. raw-re— work, you have a dreadful time. ware—deade- work, you have a dreadful time.i you're—people. you you're surrounded by people. you dew-r— don't really like under electronic— don't really like under electronic lighting . you say electronic lighting. you say darede— electronic lighting. you say ddwge dear— electronic lighting. you say things that you— electronic lighting. you say things that you don't really mean. you don't get paid enough wader— mean. you don't get paid enough wwder dared— mean. you don't get paid enough whilst doing so,— mean. you don't get paid enough whilst doing so, you're deeply

reeewdwd.— whilst doing so, you're deeply resentful. .then - whilst doing so, you're deeply resentful. then go home resentful. and then you go home and-rare— resentful. and then you go home and take antidepressant. and you take antidepressant. wow— and you take antidepressant. waw cresta.— and you take antidepressant. now cresta, apart— and you take antidepressant. now cresta, apart from - and you take antidepressant. now cresta, apart from the fact that francis has revealed that unlike you, getting paid . unlike you, he's getting paid. what do you think we're our day jobs or night jobs? we're comedians. we do it. it's certainly not the money. it's arguably the it's the love of it, right? it is the love of it. it's the love of gb news. well, is war— it's the love of gb news. well, is war ae— it's the love of gb news. well, is that as well?— it's the love of gb news. well, is that as well? i— it's the love of gb news. well, is that as well? i mean, pete, behind the curtain. i've done a lot of admin in the last ten years and i'd on the one hand, you're right. years and i'd on the one hand, you're right . you're kept in the you're right. you're kept in the pen for eight hours a day. it's very distressing. used to have very distressing. i used to have the rush hour before coronavirus festival. other not festival. on the other hand, not a gets done in the a lot of work gets done in the office. i don't know if there's any other admins in house as any other admins in the house as we a lot of work, so i we didn't do a lot of work, so i don't i was once on don't know. i was once on marewdrw— don't know. i was once on marewdrw r— don't know. i was once on maternity, i covered- 0 i was once on maternity, i covered someone's waterway— maternity, i covered someone's marerwrw wher— maternity, i covered someone's maternity when i— maternity, i covered someone's maternity when i was starting maternity, i covered someone's matasiity when i was starting maternity, i covered someone's matas ay when i was starting maternity, i covered someone's matas a comici i was starting maternity, i covered someone's matas a comic and as starting maternity, i covered someone's matas a comic and i; starting maternity, i covered someone's matas a comic and i managed to out as a comic and i managed to raw— out as a comic and i managed to how dare— out as a comic and i managed to how dare dr— out as a comic and i managed to see how long it would take me to drerauw— see how long it would take me to dreradw war— see how long it would take me to literally not do— see how long it would take me to literally not do any— see how long it would take me to literally not do any work. and it literally not do any work. and w ae— literally not do any work. and w awa— literally not do any work. and it was two months. no one. and deadw— it was two months. no one. and rrwadw deadw— it was two months. no one. and finally, finally one— it was two months. no one. and finally, finally one the one it was two months. no one. and finthe, finally one the one it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors one the one it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors was the one it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors was in the one it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors was in are one it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors was in a inone it was two months. no one. and finthe doctors was in a in aie it was two months. no one. and

finthe doctors was in a in a for of the doctors was in a in a for de— of the doctors was in a in a for dre wad-e— of the doctors was in a in a for the king's college— of the doctors was in a in a for the king's college . hello, guys. the king's college. hello, guys. hey,— the king's college. hello, guys. heyr wad-e— the king's college. hello, guys. hey, king's college . and in hey, king's college. and in der— hey, king's college. and in their invoice— hey, king's college. and in their invoice department and drew— their invoice department and drew deadw— their invoice department and then finally, one— their invoice department and then finally, one of the pharmacists— then finally, one of the pharmacists came up and said, oh, pharmacists came up and said, are drew-re— pharmacists came up and said, oh, they're saying— pharmacists came up and said, oh, they're saying this. this wwdee— oh, they're saying this. this invoice never— oh, they're saying this. this invoice never went through. and i invoice never went through. and r-der— invoice never went through. and r-der me— invoice never went through. and i-let me-doublei i went, oh, let me just double deer— i went, oh, let me just double deer-ard— i went, oh, let me just double check _and then- i went, oh, let me just double check-and then i- i went, oh, let me just double check and then i went check on that. and then i went ware— check on that. and then i went dare-arme— check on that. and then i went into-office-i- check on that. and then i went into-office-i did- check on that. and then i went into office i did about into the office and i did about three— into the office and i did about those-months,— into the office and i did about those months, and it took me those two months, and it took me adder— those two months, and it took me adder-aw— those two months, and it took me adder-aw raw— those two months, and it took me about-an hour to— those two months, and it took me about-an hour to do- those two months, and it took me about an hour to do it. about half an hour to do it. so awr— about half an hour to do it. so war we— about half an hour to do it. so bad we edu— about half an hour to do it. so but it's still a— about half an hour to do it. so but it's still a great— about half an hour to do it. so but it's still a great strain to spend the time there. so i do have some sympathy. when you said you have some sympathy. when you said-you didn't— have some sympathy. when you said-you didn't-any- said that you didn't do any wk,— said that you didn't do any warw r— said that you didn't do any warw r-wad— said that you didn't do any work, i-had this- said that you didn't do any work, i had this image of work, i just had this image of deade— work, i just had this image of peapde-dw— work, i just had this image of people-in-beds. work, i just had this image of. people-in-beds doing people dying in their beds doing any ad— people dying in their beds doing any or de— people dying in their beds doing any of the admin— people dying in their beds doing any of the admin necessary for it. any of the admin necessary for w. ard— any of the admin necessary for w. add r— any of the admin necessary for w. add r ae— any of the admin necessary for it. and i was like,— any of the admin necessary for it. and i was like, you're the person— it. and i was like, you're the person-brought- it. and i was like, you're thei person-brought-the it. and i was like, you're the- person-brought-the nhs. person who brought down the nhs. reade— person who brought down the nhs. reapde—dde— person who brought down the nhs. reapde—dde dre- people are saying it's the redee— people are saying it's the redee-dr- people are saying it's the tories,-it was. people are saying it's the. tories,-it was josh tories, but really it was josh wawde— tories, but really it was josh howie-added.— tories, but really it was josh howie-added. - tories, but really it was josh howie-along. i- tories, but really it was josh howie along. howie all along. i think you might point. actually might have a point. i'm actually considered that. i think it considered that. no, i think it was experiments. iremember was just experiments. i remember we were was just experiments. i remember we dere— was just experiments. i remember we were there was— was just experiments. i remember we were there was some- i remember we were there was some sort of wu— we were there was some sort of and dear— we were there was some sort of bill that came— we were there was some sort of bill that came in— we were there was some sort of bill that came in cancer experiments. - bill that came in cancer experiments. \rr:3 bill that came in cancer experiments. \03 0 experiments. no, it was stuff batus viruses. i'm sure it waew-r— batus viruses. i'm sure it wasn't important. - , i'm sure it wasn't important. anyway another emai— email question next from simon is email question next from simon re—ra— email question next from simon re—ra awdaw- is china trying to outlaw eamedwe— is china trying to outlaw comedy?_nol is china trying to outlaw- comedy?_no laughing comedy? comedy is no laughing reader— comedy? comedy is no laughing matter-where- comedy? comedy is no laughing matter where stand up matter in china, where stand up comedian— matter in china, where stand up comedian-hayashi,- matter in china, where stand up comedian hayashi, known by comedian lee hayashi, known by his comedian lee hayashi, known by we erade— comedian lee hayashi, known by we erage warre— comedian lee hayashi, known by his stage name house, was

reeewdw— his stage name house, was recently slapped with a fine for redund— recently slapped with a fine for reading a— recently slapped with a fine for reward a rare— recently slapped with a fine for telling a joke that didn't go dawn— telling a joke that didn't go dawn-wide— telling a joke that didn't go down with ruling down well with the ruling communist— down well with the ruling communist party. fans say it's part— communist party. fans say it's paw-earmar— communist party. fans say it's part-cultural-onl part of a cultural squeeze on de— part of a cultural squeeze on dre-eeerar— part of a cultural squeeze on awe-eeerar .— part of a cultural squeeze on the - sector , with - part of a cultural squeeze on the sector , with observers the arts sector, with observers warwdwd— the arts sector, with observers warning-possible- the arts sector, with observers warning possible excessive warning of possible excessive ar— warning of possible excessive er pawe. — warning of possible excessive use of power. now, francis is were— use of power. now, francis is were de— use of power. now, francis is this is dangerous.— use of power. now, francis is this is dangerous. they come for the this is dangerous. they come for we dawwe — this is dangerous. they come for the clowns. we— this is dangerous. they come for the clowns. we have a role . yes, the clowns. we have a role. yes, i the clowns. we have a role. yes, r knew— the clowns. we have a role. yes, r wwaw dere— the clowns. we have a role. yes, i know there is— the clowns. we have a role. yes, i know there is an— the clowns. we have a role. yes, i know there is an argument that eawedw— i know there is an argument that eawedw de— i know there is an argument that eawedw re raw— i know there is an argument that comedy is how society releases its comedy is how society releases we rewedawe— comedy is how society releases we rewedawe .— comedy is how society releases its tensions . when— comedy is how society releases its tensions . when china when its tensions. when china when the government— its tensions. when china when the government is coming for the peapde— the government is coming for the peapde wrea— the government is coming for the peapde wwa ae— the government is coming for the people who are speaking out for the people who are speaking out for we ddeeeww— people who are speaking out for the dissent, that— people who are speaking out for the dissent, that is, is that a eddw— the dissent, that is, is that a den ar— the dissent, that is, is that a edge of peer— the dissent, that is, is that a sign of just how— the dissent, that is, is that a sign of just how things how far reinde— sign of just how things how far redede eave— sign of just how things how far things have gone— sign of just how things how far things have gone in terms of eeweded— things have gone in terms of shutting down— things have gone in terms of shutting down debate? emcee shutting down debate? well, aeedweew. — shutting down debate? well, aeedweew. r— shutting down debate? well, absolutely. i mean,- shutting down debate? well, absolutely. i mean, china, the chinese communist party, let's be never been known be fair, have never been known for their sense of humour. no one xi jinping and one looks at xi jinping and goes, what? goes, you know what? that's a bloke who loves banter yeah. bloke who loves banter. yeah. to the is one of his the point is one of his nicknames is winnie the pooh. right. because people say that he looks like winnie the pooh and he's actually banned winnie the pooh memes and gifs on weibo. wow. so you see, you can't even use it because he's that sensitive. yeah, but now

it's that sensitive. yeah, but now we eee— that sensitive. yeah, but now it's even funnier— that sensitive. yeah, but now it's even funnier .— 0 yeah, but now it's even funnier . yeah. now it's even funnier. yeah. now when— it's even funnier. yeah. now when we— it's even funnier. yeah. now when we de— it's even funnier. yeah. now when we do, there'll be some deer— when we do, there'll be some paper earw — when we do, there'll be some other form of— when we do, there'll be some other form of winnie the pooh rear— other form of winnie the pooh rear daee—ear- that goes undetected for a wee— that goes undetected for a. while._hilarious while. i think that's hilarious . wed— while. i think that's hilarious . wed-a— while. i think that's hilarious .and-a shame- while. i think that's hilarious . and a shame when . and isn't it a shame when eawepadw— . and isn't it a shame when eawepadw re— . and isn't it a shame when somebody is that funny and they ear-e— somebody is that funny and they eae-r de— somebody is that funny and they can't see it themselves? 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take it further into another sort of cultural revolution? wed. — sort of cultural revolution? wed. r— sort of cultural revolution? well, i think— sort of cultural revolution? well, i think they're- sort of cultural revolution? well, i think they're quite keen on that, aren't they? at the moment? he's trying to push chinese traditional culture, whatever that is . so yeah, if whatever that is. so yeah, if i was a comic, i think i'd hang up my microphone and go home. at this point. it's terrifying. well, that's a shame because i had— well, that's a shame because i read a— well, that's a shame because i ead a preeeer— well, that's a shame because i had a present to— well, that's a shame because i had a present to announce you a raw— had a present to announce you a raw de— had a present to announce you a rape in cerea— had a present to announce you a tour in china coming up. but i deterred.— tour in china coming up. but i was thinking, can— tour in china coming up. but i was thinking, can we take comedy, unleash to china next? i don't know. that would be i'd never come home. yes. so still to caree— never come home. yes. so still to ae wee— never come home. yes. so still to come on free speech- t yes. so still to come on free speech nation, wedd— to come on free speech nation, we'll—journalists. we'll be talking to journalists and— we'll be talking to journalists and raeeawe— we'll be talking to journalists and famous free— we'll be talking to journalists and famous free speech advocate wdeeaed— and famous free speech advocate michael shellenberger. he is daweeedee— michael shellenberger. he is launching the— michael shellenberger. he is launching the global free speech alliance this week. see you in a couple of minutes .

6. you're listening to gb news wade— 6. you're listening to gb news wade . — 6. you're listening to gb news wade . sa— 6. you're listening to gb news wade . so .— 6. you're listening to gb news radio . t t radio. so. welcome back to free speech nation. my next guest wedded— speech nation. my next guest wedded de— speech nation. my next guest tonight is american- t \.g.;.~ my next guest tonight is american free t \r503�* my next guest tonight is american free speech erweaerd wea— tonight is american free speech crusader who says— tonight is american free speech crusader who says governments arawed— crusader who says governments ad ree— crusader who says governments around the world— crusader who says governments around the world are making bold awewpre— around the world are making bold awewpre ra— around the world are making bold attempts to take— around the world are making bold attempts to take away our civil dpewdee — attempts to take away our civil liberties. michael— attempts to take away our civil

liberties. michael shellenberger is liberties. michael shellenberger re re— liberties. michael shellenberger re re rowe— liberties. michael shellenberger re derawe rar— liberties. michael shellenberger is in town for an— liberties. michael shellenberger is in town for an event on rewredaw— is in town for an event on thursday night- is in town for an event on thursday night in london when edweede— thursday night in london when himself russell— thursday night in london when himself russell brand and matt rapped— himself russell brand and matt rapped wru— himself russell brand and matt taibbi will be— himself russell brand and matt taibbi will be exposing what they— taibbi will be exposing what they describe— taibbi will be exposing what they describe as— taibbi will be exposing what they describe as censorship dedwewdad— they describe as censorship industrial complex as they daweee— industrial complex as they daweee ree— industrial complex as they launch the global free speech addaeee. — launch the global free speech alliance. welcome to the show, wdeeaed— alliance. welcome to the show, wdeeaed .— alliance. welcome to the show, michael. tell— alliance. welcome to the show, michael . tell me— alliance. welcome to the show, michael . tell me .— alliance. welcome to the show, michael. tell me . thank you. michael. tell me. thank you. wow:— michael. tell me. thank you. wow. r-w— michael. tell me. thank you. wow, i'm honour— michael. tell me. thank you. wow, i'm honour pleasure. you're here. so please tell us about rede— here. so please tell us about were wee— here. so please tell us about this free speech— ”rr:33; so please tell us about this free speech alliance. “r:3”r3; so please tell us about this free speech alliance. well i this free speech alliance. well r werew— this free speech alliance. well r week we— this free speech alliance. well i think it's important for peapde— i think it's important for peapde ra— i think it's important for people to understand that what's wear-e— people to understand that what's wear-e peer— people to understand that what's what's been revealed in britain eae— what's been revealed in britain eae area— what's been revealed in britain has also been— what's been revealed in britain has also been happening in the weed— has also been happening in the united states,— has also been happening in the united states, which is government- united states, which is government bureaucrats putting pressure on social— government bureaucrats putting pressure on social media eaeeaepdee— pressure on social media eaeeaepdee ra— pressure on social media companies to censor disfavoured awd— companies to censor disfavoured voices and disfavoured opinions. weer— voices and disfavoured opinions. most dramatically— voices and disfavoured opinions. most dramatically around- voices and disfavoured opinions. most dramatically around covid. we saw facebook and twitter censoring what they themselves acknowledged were often true stories of vaccine side effects. and this is shocking for anybody, whether you're liberal or conservative. we spent a lot of effort over the years trying to require pharmaceutical companies to disclose the side effects of their drugs. so when

you have ordinary people describing the side effects of vaccines, as i think we should all agree, that that be all agree, that that should be permitted it gets permitted speech. but it gets much worse than that. we've seen the involvement of our intelligence our intelligence services, our security , people that security forces, people that george orwell warned us should not be involved in censoring speech. not be involved in censoring speech . and we're seeing it in speech. and we're seeing it in the states britain, the united states in britain, the united states in britain, the is making an attempt to the eu is making an attempt to censor speech. maybe the worst is happening in ireland , where is happening in ireland, where the wants the right the government wants the right to able to go into your home to be able to go into your home and search your phones and computers without your permission you guilty permission and deem you guilty before so before being proven innocent. so there's a brazil we see it . we there's a brazil we see it. we see it all the english speaking countries of the world starting to crack down on free speech. we felt like needed to strike felt like we needed to strike back, that's why we're back, and that's why we're having event on thursday, a having this event on thursday, a 7 westminster 7 pm. central hall, westminster here in london. i think we have so much in common, our two countries, and we want to bring us together this. well, look us together on this. well, look at that. just— us together on this. well, look at that. just instantly- 0.5 5 r3�* well, look at that. just instantly sold out dwe— at that. just instantly sold out tree that — at that. just instantly sold out like that. let's— at that. just instantly sold out like that. let's hope so, i'm sure. buti like that. let's hope so, i'm sure. but i think— like that. let's hope so, i'm sure. but i think it's- sure. but i think it's interesting- ”r3; but i think it's interesting that this and i eeawdd— interesting that this and i should _that-

interesting that this and i. should _thatlthink should point out that i think it's should point out that i think we a— should point out that i think we a-pw— should point out that i think it's a-bit more- should point out that i think it's a-bit more so- should point out that i think it's a bit more so in it's a little bit more so in america— it's a little bit more so in america maybe- it's a little bit more so in america maybe where this america maybe where it's this wee— america maybe where it's this free-seems to- america maybe where it's this free-seems to be- america maybe where it's this free seems to be like free speech seems to be like a deer— free speech seems to be like a deer dew— free speech seems to be like a right left issue— free speech seems to be like a right left issue as— free speech seems to be like a right left issue as such. but we— right left issue as such. but it's definitely— right left issue as such. but it's definitely these these different— it's definitely these these different discussions about down,— different discussions about covm, about— different discussions about covid, about gender identity, apawr— covid, about gender identity, apawr taw— covid, about gender identity, about how our— covid, about gender identity, about how our policing, they waeeeeed— about how our policing, they transcend hard— about how our policing, they transcend hard left and right, eweedw— transcend hard left and right, ewrew, r— transcend hard left and right, surely, i mean,— transcend hard left and right, surely, i mean, they should. i ree— surely, i mean, they should. i mean, the year— surely, i mean, they should. i mean, the year i— surely, i mean, they should. i mean, the year i graduated from high school, 1989, our supreme court said that you had a right to burn the american flag and it was mostly conservatives and republicans who were opposed to that. republicans who were opposed to that . as a boy growing up, my that. as a boy growing up, my father would talk about how the aclu, which is our main civil rights organisation, fought for the right of to be able to march through predominantly not only jewish neighbourhood , but a jewish neighbourhood, but a neighbourhood of holocaust survivors . and that was allowed survivors. and that was allowed because america has such a muscular view of free speech. we made it our first amendment to the constitution, and it was it was central to what it meant to be an american. and so to see the issue become polarised in this way, it's very sad . it's this way, it's very sad. it's very troubling. it makes me

upset and so we definitely are upset. and so we definitely are trying to appeal to everybody, no you sit on that no matter where you sit on that left right spectrum and how come you've uk ? i mean, you've come to the uk? i mean, is it a worse problem— you've come to the uk? i mean, is it a worse problem here- t 7 i mean, is it a worse problem here or do you— is it a worse problem here or do wow-rear— is it a worse problem here or do wow-rear-dder- is it a worse problem here or do you _that-fight back. is it a worse problem here or do you that fight back is you think that the fight back is a drawe— you think that the fight back is a trade ew— you think that the fight back is a little bit more— you think that the fight back is a little bit more developed rerea— a little bit more developed weed-ae- a little bit more developed here?-on the- a little bit more developed here? on the one a little bit more developed- here?-on the one hand, here? i mean, on the one hand, wedde— here? i mean, on the one hand, ewrade de— here? i mean, on the one hand, britain is where— here? i mean, on the one hand, britain is where we— here? i mean, on the one hand, britain is where we got our appredadae— britain is where we got our appreciation of— britain is where we got our appreciation of freedom of epeeee. — appreciation of freedom of speech. iyou're - appreciation of freedom of speech. /r3. t 2 appreciation of freedom of- speech. iyou're welcome . and now speech. you're welcome. and now we're coming back and we're, you know, we of course, like many things in united states, we took it to a new extreme and we said, look, there's very few limitations that we on free limitations that we put on free speech in the united states. you can't commit fraud and can't lie to commit fraud and you incite violence you can't incite violence against people using your speech. but beyond that , our speech. but beyond that, our supreme court has upheld very strong free speech rights . and strong free speech rights. and our view is that instead of the pressure that is being put on social media companies based mostly in the united states from europe , from britain, from europe, from britain, from countries around the for world, us to water down our own free speech rights. we think other countries should strengthen their commitment to free speech. we think other countries we

should to help that should and we want to help that happen we don't want to happen because we don't want to be on the defensive. this week is us on the is about us going on the offensive and strengthening free speech when speech because we think when citizens world have a citizens around the world have a chance to have stronger or weaker laws, they're chance to have stronger or weaker choose laws, they're chance to have stronger or weaker choose stronger they're chance to have stronger or weaker choose stronger laws. going to choose stronger laws. and did. here's and how did. well, here's a prerwre— and how did. well, here's a prerwre ae— and how did. well, here's a picture of the— and how did. well, here's a picture of the guys there. how did wow— picture of the guys there. how drd you wear— picture of the guys there. how drd you wear wp— picture of the guys there. how did you hook up with matt and tween— did you hook up with matt and wweeeu- — did you hook up with matt and wweeeu- r— did you hook up with matt and russell- i mean,- did you hook up with matt and russell- i mean, like,l did you hook up with matt and. russell- i mean, like, you russell then? i mean, like, you know, brand's a huge know, russell brand's a huge character the united states character in the united states and we really in with and we really fell in love with him the. he's very him through the. he's very demure here.— him through the. he's very demure here. .we- him through the. he's very demure here.-we all. him through the. he's very. demure here.-we all fell him through the. he's very- demure here.-we all fell in demure here. yeah we all fell in wave— demure here. yeah we all fell in wave hp.— demure here. yeah we all fell in love with russell— demure here. yeah we all fell in love with russell brand over the daer— love with russell brand over the we deeade. — love with russell brand over the last decade. matt— love with russell brand over the last decade. m500 last decade. matt taibbi i also only recently met matt and i both came from the left. we find ourselves a little bewildered to be in this position of being interrogated by democrats in congress. russell brand is somebody that i don't share all of his views. he has views that i don't necessarily share on things like agriculture or or nuclear power and various issues. but i think we all agree that you've that particularly when you've experienced censorship when experienced censorship or when you him on his youtube you watch him on his youtube channel, have to talk around the restrictions that they're now imposing. see now youtube is

imposing. we see now youtube is imposing. we see now youtube is imposing stronger imposing even stronger restrictions, even cracking down on very famous people like jordan peterson and ben shapiro, others , for using the wrong others, for using the wrong pronouns. so we're seeing a simultaneous crackdown around the world. it's affecting all of us.even the world. it's affecting all of us. even if you don't agree on other issues, i think this is something freedom of speech is something freedom of speech is something that's traditionally unhed something that's traditionally united recognise that. united us. we recognise that. we don't , but that don't agree, but that we're better being to have better off being able to have the conversation rather than be in fear that the government's going in prison for going to put us in prison for the that and the things that we say and believe. and arguably it's not twea— believe. and arguably it's not wed ree— and arguably it's not just the government. believe. and arguably it's not. just the government.-we just the government. i mean, we are just the government. i mean, we watered— just the government. i mean, we are talking about— just the government. i mean, we are talking about social movements— are talking about social movements as well. and the wweete— virulence with which they attack aewtadw— virulence with which they attack anybody wtte— virulence with which they attack anybody with different anybody with a different aptetae—waw anybody with a different- opinion._you say, opinion. you say, as you say, eawted— opinion. you say, as you say, eawted traw— opinion. you say, as you say, coming from the— opinion. you say, as you say, coming from the left, i'm sure waw-tt— coming from the left, i'm sure waw-tt ted— coming from the left, i'm sure you'll find that— coming from the left, i'm sure you'll find that some of the meet,— you'll find that some of the meet, r— you'll find that some of the most, i don't— you'll find that some of the most, i don't know, egregious is ready— most, i don't know, egregious is really peapte— most, i don't know, egregious is really people taking it to the twrteeet— really people taking it to the furthest possible way. are peapte— furthest possible way. are peapte adep— furthest possible way. are people also from the left where eetee— people also from the left where eetee teta— people also from the left where enters into fascism— people also from the left where enters into fascism , of course. enters into fascism, of course. teat.— enters into fascism, of course. teat. at— enters into fascism, of course. teat. at eta-wrea— enters into fascism, of course. yeah, of course. i— enters into fascism, of course. yeah, of course. i mean- enters into fascism, of course. yeah, of course. i mean this is a very sad development over the last 20 years in particular, you know, we made these incredible

achievements in terms of civil rights rights and rights and women's rights and rights and women's rights and rights lesbians. rights for gays and lesbians. and went to this and then it just went to this incredible extreme. and so the censorship industrial complex is sort of the inorganic government imposition, but it pulls its strength from cancel culture from this. this really dogmatic woke culture. it's to not say it's entirely left right. we've seen censorship of antiwar left wing voices as well. there's a group of black radicals that are being prosecuted by the fbi in the united states for speaking out against the war in ukraine. so again, it shouldn't it shouldn't break along left, right lines that has tended to be where it's been. but really, it's this desire from the grass roots. it's like the last segment you saw on on elizabeth gilbert, the self censorship and the cancel culture that has given power to these government agencies is to tap into that and use it as an excuse to demand more censorship, including things that they mislabel all hate speech that really aren't hateful at all. so you mentioned

eadat— hateful at all. so you mentioned eadat wedta— hateful at all. so you mentioned social media a— hateful at all. so you mentioned social media a few— so you mentioned social media a few times. it twe— social media a few times. it seems like that— social media a few times. it seems like that may be the prattew — seems like that may be the prapteee awd— seems like that may be the problem and the solution. i mean, you obviously you had elon wwet— mean, you obviously you had elon wwet pwwted— mean, you obviously you had elon musk buying twitter. is has it made— musk buying twitter. is has it made a— musk buying twitter. is has it made a tad— musk buying twitter. is has it made a big difference , do you made a big difference, do you app,— made a big difference, do you app, eave— made a big difference, do you think, have taken— made a big difference, do you think, have taken that just even in think, have taken that just even te tee— think, have taken that just even in the practical— think, have taken that just even in the practical sense on twtttee— in the practical sense on twitter, but— in the practical sense on twitter, but also what he's etaedted— twitter, but also what he's etaedtep wp— twitter, but also what he's standing up for? ' “.5r3 standing up for? a huge difference. i mean, the first thing that he did when he took over company is he invited thing that he did when he took ov severalompany is he invited thing that he did when he took ov several journalists. |e invited thing that he did when he took ov several journalists. i invited thing that he did when he took ov several journalists. i wasted in several journalists. i was brought a friend who brought in through a friend who he brought to in look in he had brought to in look in through the twitter files. and what discovered really what we discovered really shocked it shocked us. i mean, at first it was of this imposition of was sort of this imposition of very dogmatic values. but over time, we started to see people from the fbi and the department of homeland security even of homeland security and even the requests for the cia making requests for content moderation or censorship , often along lines that were designed to divide us. i mean, i think people have to remember, when you look at the sweep of history, we are more tolerant of racial, religious and sexual minorities in britain, the united states, the western world than we've ever been. i mean, just think about your parents or

grandparents 100 years ago, how much less tolerance there was. so to see the secretary—general of the united nations or the president of the european commission other major commission or other major figures, get up there and say that we're suffering from this increase in the increase of hatred in the society . it's just and in society. it's just false. and in fact, they're the ones that are stoke king. i believe this anime and this hatred of each other on ideological lines as a justification for expanding censorship. well, justification for expanding censorship . well, obviously, censorship. well, obviously, the— censorship. well, obviously, the te— censorship. well, obviously, the te a— censorship. well, obviously, this is a huge— censorship. well, obviously, this is a huge topic.- rt.r3; well, obviously, this is a huge topic. i mean, dat— this is a huge topic. i mean, eat a— this is a huge topic. i mean, we've got a whole show dedicated to rt,— we've got a whole show dedicated to p, twt— we've got a whole show dedicated to p, twt dead— we've got a whole show dedicated to it, but good luck.— we've got a whole show dedicated to it, but good luck. do you want— to it, but good luck. do you want ta— to it, but good luck. do you want to tell— to it, but good luck. do you want to tell us— to it, but good luck. do you want to tell us one more time on tewredaw— want to tell us one more time on rewredaw twet— want to tell us one more time on rewredaw twet eet— want to tell us one more time on thursday just get out there for peapte— thursday just get out there for peapte wea— thursday just get out there for peapte wee ae— thursday just get out there for people who are interested. we want— people who are interested. we want ta— people who are interested. we want to tear— people who are interested. we want to hear more. ' 035 want to hear more. absolutely. so it's central hall, westminster, 7 pm. if can't westminster, 7 pm. if you can't afford a ticket, i'll personally pay afford a ticket, i'll personally pay ticket. we've got pay for your ticket. we've got to strong show. buy me a to get a strong show. buy me a coffee as well. absolutely we need show of force. need a strong show of force. it's really i think it's the alliance start with alliance has to start with the united and britain and united states and britain and i think the rest of the western world, brazil. we world, but also brazil. so we can fight back and go can start to fight back and go on the offence for free speech.

absolutely. well, thank you so wwte— absolutely. well, thank you so wet tar— absolutely. well, thank you so much for coming— absolutely. well, thank you so much for coming in and telling us much for coming in and telling we-tt.— much for coming in and telling we-tt. wed— much for coming in and telling us-it. and good- much for coming in and telling us it. and good luck on us about it. and good luck on tewredaw. — us about it. and good luck on thursday. -nice- us about it. and good luck on thursday. -nice to- us about it. and good luck on thursday. nice to meet you. thursday. very nice to meet you. want— thursday. very nice to meet you. teaetlwwee— thursday. very nice to meet you. thank.much.having- thursday. very nice to meet you. thank much having me. thank so much for having me. want— thank so much for having me. thank-thank— thank so much for having me. thank-thank you. - thank so much for having me. thank-thank you. okiel thank you. thank you. okie dokie. come free dokie. still to come on free speech nation, latest on the speech nation, the latest on the anti—protest legislation being pushed parliament. i'll anti—protest legislation being puzjoined parliament. i'll anti—protest legislation being puzjoined by parliament. i'll anti—protest legislation being puzjoined by baronessment. i'll anti—protest legislation being puzjoined by baroness claire i'll anti—protest legislation being puzjoined by baroness claire fox be joined by baroness claire fox for be joined by baroness claire fox tar teat.— be joined by baroness claire fox tar teat. rtwe— be joined by baroness claire fox for that. plus my— be joined by baroness claire fox for that. plus my thoughts on tattere— for that. plus my thoughts on tateere-raw— for that. plus my thoughts on father's you know, that's father's day. you know, that's rtdet. — father's day. you know, that's rtget. teat— father's day. you know, that's right. that was— father's day. you know, that's right. 5 father's day. you know, that's right. “5 t

11 am. on sundays on gb news with me, michael portillo . with me, michael portillo. welcome back to free speech wattae. — welcome back to free speech nation- happy— welcome back to free speech nation. j5; \0:30 nation. happy father's day. now i love father's day , not just i love father's day, not just for the extra half hour sleep in. i get until 7 am. and not just because i have five kids, four boys and a girl. and i love seeing the creativity and thought that they put into the cards they've made whilst doing my best not to point out any spelling mistakes . i love spelling mistakes. i love father's because it's one of father's day because it's one of the few, if not only the only means that we can celebrate means left that we can celebrate masculinity without shame. it's a public holiday in lithuania,

estonia , samoa and south korea. estonia, samoa and south korea. catholics have been observing it as saint joseph's day since the middle ages. in france, it was started by a lighter manufacturer in the 1950s to sell their lighters. i'm not sure if their mother's day was started by a vodka brand . and in started by a vodka brand. and in britain we celebrate by going on wikipedia and learning loads about facts about father's day. it might just be me. about facts about father's day. it might just be me . what i do it might just be me. what i do know, though , is that today is know, though, is that today is the one day i'm not beleaguered by the sense that there's something innately wrong with being who i am . a man, maybe being who i am. a man, maybe beleaguered, is a strong word. we do like to exaggerate. hey women, but we're living in a moment in the west where toxic masculinity has become so synonymous to masculinity , it's synonymous to masculinity, it's unnecessary using the prefix anymore . and if you do want to anymore. and if you do want to say something pro men, then there's this implication you must be suspect and apologists for sexual violence and misogynist . an angry incel in misogynist. an angry incel in a basement . misogynist. an angry incel in a basement. unless you're a hippie men's group leader to men's group leader looking to talk your emotions , to talk about your emotions, to talk about your emotions, to talk positive attributes of

talk up positive attributes of masculinity is to somehow be in opposition to femininity rather than to compliment it. and when someone like jordan peterson comes along, when he calmly articulates the problem that half our population is growing up, with up, constantly bombarded with the message to be ashamed of who they censorship, ridicule, they are censorship, ridicule, slander are deployed to shut him down. and obviously i'm not him. i'm not an intellectual. i'm not andrew i'd get lost andrew doyle i'd get lost in a maze of appraisal how we got maze of appraisal of how we got to point and my arguments to this point and my arguments would die. the death of a thousand caveats factoring in choices to not procreate infertility, same sex parents, other expressions of maleness . other expressions of maleness. yet still what i'm not willing to do is cede the point that those many valid and diverse aspects to our society have themselves come to solely represent our society . i'm themselves come to solely represent our society. i'm a father and i can clearly see for myself how masculinity is in crisis , how bad faith actors crisis, how bad faith actors like andrew tate have stepped in to stake a claim on our teenagers. i've seen it with my eldest son and his friends. tate is providing them with something they're not getting elsewhere .

they're not getting elsewhere. pride it's warped pride direction, but it's warped pride, warped direction . it's pride, warped direction. it's self—serving, destructive nonsense. i want my sons to be happy. professional contributor to society, hopefully making the world a better place rather than exploiting others. i want them to be in healthy relationships, helping raise a family of their own. i want them to be fathers. i want my daughter to have all of that. also and if it's in her path, be with someone who also wants to be a father. personally, thought personally, i'd never thought about a dad and certainly about being a dad and certainly having wasn't the having five kids. wasn't the plan . but having five kids. wasn't the plan. but it's having five kids. wasn't the plan . but it's easily the best plan. but it's easily the best thing i've ever done. i'm not perfect. get impatient perfect. i get impatient occasionally, bit shouty . occasionally, a bit shouty. don't set a good example with my phone. use it's how i've phone. use but it's how i've learnt to nurture, to develop empathy , to care for other empathy, to care for other people's needs. support. give contain, provide security, fatherhood is what has taught me how to be a man. every study shows that absent fathers contribute to poorer outcomes in

behavioural problems , emotional behavioural problems, emotional problems, cognitive development, mental health, boys are more likely to be aggressive, impulsive and quick to anger. girls have accelerated sexual development. men are more than sperm. men men are needed. there's an idea that getting men to commit and emotionally and economically support their family was one of the greatest achievements of civilisation. i'd argue that it might even define it . so let's acknowledge define it. so let's acknowledge that and celebrate it and let's make it something for our children to aspire to. happy fathers day . fathers day. the irony is, of course, i spent the whole day writing that and spending it with my kids. so did you. is your father alive? did you send him a message today? first of all, i'd say that— him a message today? first of all, i'd say that is— him a message today? first of all, i'd say that is a- all, i'd say that is a disgusting- all, i'd say that is a disgusting advert for the patrtawew— disgusting advert for the patrtawew .— disgusting advert for the patriarchy , which i neither patriarchy, which i neither agree— patriarchy, which i neither agree wtte— patriarchy, which i neither agree with support. no, agree with nor support. no, i epeet— agree with nor support. no, i epeetltaat— agree with nor support. no, i epeet|taat ww— agree with nor support. no, i spent took my dad for a spent i took my dad for a twrttee— spent i took my dad for a turkish today,— spent i took my dad for a turkish today, mate. lovely. teat-e— turkish today, mate. lovely. trade-daw— turkish today, mate. lovely. that's- how you - turkish today, mate. lovely.

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monologue. josh i'm reading warren farrell's the boy crisis at—wawe- warren farrell's the boy crisis. at—wawe-eawe at the moment. have you come aeraee-rt-e— at the moment. have you come across-it's essential. across this? it's it's essential reading.— across this? it's it's essential reading-guys- across this? it's it's essential reading.-guys are- across this? it's it's essential reading. guys are in reading. yeah guys are in mm..— reading. yeah guys are ini trouble,_men trouble, and we need men is my vew— trouble, and we need men is my view — trouble, and we need men is my view yeah.— trouble, and we need men is my view . yeah, well,— trouble, and we need men is my view . “43?" "izgutwfi view. yeah, well, reluctantly, i've had to step up to the plate. what a nightmare. moving on amweeiv— what a nightmare. moving on now, amnesty international eave— on now, amnesty international eeve iwe— on now, amnesty international eeve iiie iw— on now, amnesty international says the uk government is seeking— says the uk government is seeking ie— says the uk government is seeking to force rejected eiemewie— seeking to force rejected elements of _ seeking to force rejected elements of the public order act iiwewgii— elements of the public order act iiweweii iwe— elements of the public order act through the house— elements of the public order act through the house of lords. elements of the public order act through the house of lords . through the house of lords. the proposed— through the house of lords. the proposed ew— through the house of lords. the proposed new regulations set the criminal threshold for protests and extreme low level amnesty. boss sacha deshmukh said peaceful protest is very clearly protected under international rights law . yet the uk has rights law. yet the uk has entered a dangerous new era of authoritarian lawmaking which is undermining our collective right to free speech and public assembly . to tell us more, i am assembly. to tell us more, i am joined by baroness claire fox . joined by baroness claire fox. hello . there she is. hello, hello. there she is. hello, baroness , how— hello. there she is. hello, baroness , how are- hello, baroness , how are you? hello. there she is. hello,- baroness , how are you? hello . baroness, how are you? hello. hi, baroness, how are you? hello. wi, wei— baroness, how are you? hello. wi, ieew se— baroness, how are you? hello. wi, josh se i— baroness, how are you? hello. hi, josh so i think— baroness, how are you? hi, josh so i think that amnesty is hi, josh so i think that amnesty ie eiigiiiiv— hi, josh so i think that amnesty is slightly overstating it. the pwiiie— is slightly overstating it. the pwiiie weer— is slightly overstating it. the public order act— is slightly overstating it. the public order act as it is now is

iweei— public order act as it is now is indeed draconian— public order act as it is now is indeed draconian and is worrying indeed draconian and is worrying in ieime— indeed draconian and is worrying in ieime ei— indeed draconian and is worrying in terms of what— indeed draconian and is worrying in terms of what it's got on the sieve— in terms of what it's got on the statute books— in terms of what it's got on the statute books .— in terms of what it's got on the statute books . but— in terms of what it's got on the statute books . but i think that statute books. but i think that whee— statute books. but i think that wiei weighi— statute books. but i think that wiei migii ie— statute books. but i think that what might be a— statute books. but i think that what might be a bit more eieiiewgiwg— what might be a bit more challenging for us to consider is iiieiiv— challenging for us to consider is firstly that— challenging for us to consider is firstly that the _ challenging for us to consider is firstly that the recent row in we — is firstly that the recent row in the house— is firstly that the recent row in the house of— is firstly that the recent row in the house of lords was that iwee— in the house of lords was that were wee— in the house of lords was that were ew— in the house of lords was that there was an attempt to, if you wani— there was an attempt to, if you wewi .— there was an attempt to, if you want , overturning— there was an attempt to, if you want , overturning what had been want, overturning what had been decided— want, overturning what had been decided in— want, overturning what had been decided in the— want, overturning what had been decided in the house of commons, in ie— decided in the house of commons, in the unelected_ decided in the house of commons, in the unelected house of lords. awe— in the unelected house of lords. awe wee-e— in the unelected house of lords. we were a— in the unelected house of lords. and that's a bit— in the unelected house of lords. and that's a bit dodgy to start off anti—democratic and eeeewiiw— off anti—democratic and secondlvv ww— off anti—democratic and secondly, my big argument is, is wei— secondly, my big argument is, is iiei eeiweiiv— secondly, my big argument is, is that actually the _ secondly, my big argument is, is that actually the problem is one of that actually the problem is one ei policingv— that actually the problem is one ei peiieiwg, wei— that actually the problem is one of policing, not of— that actually the problem is one of policing, not of legislation, iwi— of policing, not of legislation, iwi whee-e— of policing, not of legislation, but what's happened is, is that iwee— but what's happened is, is that were ie— but what's happened is, is that were ie piewiv— but what's happened is, is that there is plenty of— but what's happened is, is that there is plenty of present pwiiie— there is plenty of present public order— there is plenty of present public order legislation that code— public order legislation that eewii ie— public order legislation that could be used— public order legislation that could be used and there isn't weed— could be used and there isn't used iw— could be used and there isn't used iv iwe— could be used and there isn't used by the police. and the government's— used by the police. and the government's only solution to wie— government's only solution to we ie— government's only solution to we is ie— government's only solution to this is to bring— government's only solution to this is to bring in— government's only solution to this is to bring in more laws eni— this is to bring in more laws and iwi— this is to bring in more laws and that doesn't— this is to bring in more laws and that doesn't solve the weiiem — and that doesn't solve the weiiem ei— and that doesn't solve the problem at all. viii“ if? " {a problem at all. well, a cynical person would say that this is using this opportunity to bring back this bill that they didn't get through previous. right? yeah. so they cheated. right. they— yeah. so they cheated. right. iiev kiwi— yeah. so they cheated. right. iiev kiwi ei— yeah. so they cheated. right. they kind of brought in a part of the bill at the house of

lords. it got overturned and then they kind of brought it in via a secondary legislation thing called a statutory instrument . that's true. that instrument. that's true. that was wrong . but they have to own was wrong. but they have to own that. that's the lords can't then just act as an opposition. yes. i mean, who the hell are the house of lords, right? we're just there and it's just appointed there and it's meant scrutinise the law. you meant to scrutinise the law. you can shout the government, but can shout at the government, but you just overturning you can't just start overturning what the of commons said. what the house of commons said. in to lords, don't in other words, to lords, don't you don't make you know, to mistakes don't make a and the other thing a right. and but the other thing i we've all got to i think we've all got to recognise mean was fascinating interview the way with interview by the way with michael shellenberger there about free speech and the event that got and on and that he's got on and so on and but when we talk about the right to protest, we all think we know what we're talking about. but one of the reasons why the conservative government has got away this law, public away with this law, this public order, you know, clampdown is because particular tactics of just stop oil and they refer to them throughout this whole debate. and has been less of the demonstrate voting in support of, you know , the right to

of, you know, the right to protest, you know, really seriously using protest to go out and persuade other members of public to support of the public to support a cause. but it's been explicitly set up by just stop oil and extinction rebellion types to say we are going to ignore and get in the way of members of the british public because they won't listen to us. they won't vote the right way when it comes to climate change. and so we're going to disrupt their lives and bully them into submission. and i and i can i do think that and i can understand this, that people just in the end said, for just in the end have said, for god's out. this god's sake, sort this out. this isn't a way of protesting. this isn't a way of protesting. this is actually a way of undermining democracy. we saw for democracy. but what we saw for the government then says we've got to act. we've got to bring in really draconian thing in this really draconian thing that can arrest anyone . and that we can arrest anyone. and they said because something extraordinary has happened. and when what the when we find out what the extraordinary it was extraordinary thing was, it was that walked slowly that people walked slowly down a road right now, as it happens, there's plenty of laws that would that the police could would mean that the police could have and swooped up have gone in and swooped up those who been those people who had been irritating of irritating the life out of anyone who's trying to get to

work. we've seen the police work. and we've seen the police are quick to act when some are very quick to act when some member the public intervenes, member of the public intervenes, they just arrest them. they just go and arrest them. but won't do anything about but they won't do anything about these slow walkers. so they didn't need to bring in the extra law. that's worrying. but i still think that the bigger problems are the problem of policing and the problem of people using the right to protest. i'm afraid to undermine democratic discussion on things like net zero and climate change. but it i mean, labour, i understand, has got quite a bit of stick for what's called a regret motion. could you just qwieviv— regret motion. could you just qwieviv expieiw— regret motion. could you just quickly explain what- ”cc/”cc could you just quickly explain what that is? ani— quickly explain what that is? and i— quickly explain what that is? and i believe— quickly explain what that is? and i believe you're backing it. vee— and i believe you're backing it. yes — and i believe you're backing it. we so— and i believe you're backing it. we so iwis— and i believe you're backing it. yes so this is— and i believe you're backing it. yes so this is all— and i believe you're backing it. yes so this is all just- and i believe you're backing it. yes : yes so this is all just happened last week, actually. baroness last week, actually. so baroness jenny jones from the green party had brought in what's known as a fatal motion which would have struck down what had been implemented by the elected government and the labour party . i think in this instance made the correct call of saying you can't use a fatal measure which is usually only used in a very,

very, very, very extreme cases. and they said what that will do is it undermines the elected house of commons and it is not the place of the lords to do that. now, look, the labour party might have just been a bit anxious about upsetting people who are really fed up with the climate change activists , you climate change activists, you know, throwing paint over paintings and disrupting people's lives . it doesn't people's lives. it doesn't matter. they had a perfectly principled position, which i supported , which was to just say supported, which was to just say the house of lords is not the place where you overturn the elected commons. and we might not like what happens in the house of commons. god knows i don't like it, but on the other hand, they are elected as the lords are not. and so its job is to scrutinise not to start acting as an opposition to the government. that would be completely wrong. well, i saw your completely wrong. well, i saw vew epeeei— completely wrong. well, i saw your speech and— completely wrong. well, i saw your speech and you- , 3 well, i saw your speech and you were talking eiewi— your speech and you were talking eiewi iew— your speech and you were talking eiewi iew vew— your speech and you were talking about how you didn't want to imiieie— about how you didn't want to imiieie iwe— about how you didn't want to imitate the government's bad ieieview— imitate the government's bad behaviour-you- imitate the government's bad behaviour you see as behaviour with what you see as more unconstitutional bad ieieview— more unconstitutional bad ieieview .— more unconstitutional bad behaviour. but and i do

understand— behaviour. but and i do understand your point that it's not necessarily— understand your point that it's not necessarily your job to step in ie— not necessarily your job to step in ie seep— not necessarily your job to step in ie eiep iwe— not necessarily your job to step in to stop the representatives of ie— in to stop the representatives ei iiie pwiiie— in to stop the representatives of the public, but at the same iwe— of the public, but at the same iime iew-i— of the public, but at the same time isn't the— of the public, but at the same time isn't the purpose of the iwee— time isn't the purpose of the iewie ie— time isn't the purpose of the lords to provide— time isn't the purpose of the lords to provide those checks ewe— lords to provide those checks and balances— lords to provide those checks and balances to— lords to provide those checks and balances to the government of ie— and balances to the government of we iew— and balances to the government of we iew e — and balances to the government of the day ? yeah,— and balances to the government of the day ? “43?" ,, e�*i: of the day? yeah, but checks and balances is not the same as having a completely different policy. so at the moment, just to use an example, the um, the illegal migration bill is going through the lords and i don't actually like a lot of that piece of legislation, but it would be completely wrong to say that the house of lords is behaving responsibly on this because rather than them scrutinising acting as scrutinising it and acting as checks balances, checks and balances, there's basically been an explicit attempt to saying we're going to gut this bill of any meaning and we're going to let happen we're not going to let it happen . now, you know, that's completely can't that, completely you can't do that, right? i might like right? because i might not like the rwanda plans. i might not think that that's the way to deal nonetheless, deal with it. but nonetheless, there's undoubtedly mandate there's undoubtedly a mandate from to deal with from the government to deal with the boats. and so pointing the small boats. and so pointing out things that are, you know ,

out things that are, you know, difficult with a bill which is what the lord is meant to do, where he says, do you realise the unintended consequences of this speeches, pointing the unintended consequences of thiswhy speeches, pointing the unintended consequences of thiswhy you speeches, pointing the unintended consequences of thiswhy you disagree, pointing the unintended consequences of thiswhy you disagree, poiritng the unintended consequences of thiswhy you disagree, poirit is out why you disagree with it is one thing, but to actually block the house commons, we saw the house of commons, we saw this of course, with brexit. that very that was the lords were very keen brexit because keen to stop brexit because they're not they're not attacking the house of commons, they're attacking electorate they're attacking the electorate because electorate are the because the electorate are the ones who hold the house of commons to account, not the house lords. house house of lords. the house of lords got much more modest lords has got a much more modest role i think it's got role and i think it's got carried away with itself, to be honest. a lot of people say, honest. and a lot of people say, oh, well, don't trust the oh, well, we don't trust the pubuc oh, well, we don't trust the public get the the right public to get the vote the right way. so we have to rely on the house of lords to we return what we don't in the commons. we don't like in the commons. and that's very dangerous road we don't like in the commons. ango hat's very dangerous road we don't like in the commons. an go hat's viwell, ngerous road we don't like in the commons. an go hat's viwell,thank1s road we don't like in the commons. an go hat's viwell, thank you ad we don't like in the commons. an go hat's viwell, thank you so to go down. well, thank you so much explaining all of that much for explaining all of that to us. i feel much more informed.— to us. i feel much more informed. very- i feel much more informed. very nice to see you again. — informed. very nice to see you again. ieiiee— informed. very nice to see you again. ladies and— informed. very nice to see you again. ladies and gentlemen, pieeee— again. ladies and gentlemen,i pieeee—iewvee again. ladies and gentlemen,- please,_fawkes . please, baroness claire fawkes. siiii— please, baroness claire fawkes. siiii ie— please, baroness claire fawkes. siiii ie ewe.— please, baroness claire fawkes. still to come, social— still to come, social sensations, unfiltered dilemmas . and then the man who charges peopie— . and then the man who charges peopie e— . and then the man who charges peopie e iewwe— . and then the man who charges people a tenner to— and then the man who charges

people a tenner to park like weiiiee— people a tenner to park like wallies. see— people a tenner to park like wallies. see you— people a tenner to park like wallies. see you then . now we wallies. see you then. now we iew— wallies. see you then. now we ieev iwe— wallies. see you then. now we look like we're— wallies. see you then. now we look like we're having fun .

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation. a farmer went viral this week— nation. a farmer went viral this week iei— nation. a farmer went viral this week for allowing— k iii" a farmer went viral this week for allowing customers to week— week for allowing customers to week ew— week for allowing customers to week on wie— week for allowing customers to park on his lamb— week for allowing customers to park on his lamb land like a weiiv— park on his lamb land like a weiiv iei— park on his lamb land like a weiiv for e— park on his lamb land like a wally for a tenner. ian flinders ieww— wally for a tenner. ian flinders ieww ie— wally for a tenner. ian flinders farm is located— wally for a tenner. ian flinders farm is located at— wally for a tenner. ian flinders farm is located at the start of a farm is located at the start of e wwiiie— farm is located at the start of a public footpath,— farm is located at the start of a public footpath, leading to a iweei— a public footpath, leading to a ieeei ieewiv— a public footpath, leading to a local beauty spot— a public footpath, leading to a local beauty spot cornwall. local beauty spot in cornwall. he local beauty spot in cornwall. we-eeew— local beauty spot in cornwall. we-eeew ie- local beauty spot in cornwall. he-cash to park- local beauty spot in cornwall. he cash to park for he asked for cash to park for we— he asked for cash to park for we iew— he asked for cash to park for we iew iei— he asked for cash to park for the day for honesty box, but the day for an honesty box, but it's the day for an honesty box, but we a— the day for an honesty box, but we a sign— the day for an honesty box, but it's a sign that— the day for an honesty box, but it's a sign that-the- the day for an honesty box, but it's a sign that the eye it's a sign that caught the eye of week— it's a sign that caught the eye of local visitors. _ it's a sign that caught the eye of local visitors. let's take a ieek— of local visitors. let's take a ieek. se— of local visitors. let's take a ieek. se iei— of local visitors. let's take a look. so for those- of local visitors. let's take a look. so for those listening on revie— look. so for those listening on wwe-peeking- look. so for those listening on radio, parking neat and radio, it says parking neat and iigwi— radio, it says parking neat and iiewi iei— radio, it says parking neat and iigwi for is,— radio, it says parking neat and tight for £3, parking like a wink— tight for £3, parking like a weiiv. — tight for £3, parking like a weiiv. eio— tight for £3, parking like a wally. �*t�*o as i'm tight for £3, parking like a wally. �*t�*o “25 i'm delighted wally. £10 sounds. i'm delighted to wally. £io sounds. i'm delighted ie eww— wally. £10 sounds. i'm delighted w w iw— wally. £10 sounds. i'm delighted to say, in flinders.— wally. £10 sounds. i'm delighted to say, in flinders. joins- wally. �*t�*o 2 i'm delighted to say, in flinders. joins me . ow— to say, in flinders. joins me now . oh, there— to say, in flinders. joins me now . oh, there he is. �*fvi�*izi; “52 now. oh, there he is. we had some graphics. hello,- now. oh, there he is. �*fvi�*izi; “52 g {5 hello, ian . some graphics. hello, ian. there we are. let's have a wine— there we are. let's have a little round— there we are. let's have a little round of— ”i“5:5 525 let's have a little round of applause. “5”i:5 525 let's have a little round of applause. ian wwei— little round of applause. ian wwei wee— little round of applause. ian what was the _

little round of applause. ian what was the inspiration for the sign— what was the inspiration for the sign e — what was the inspiration for the eigw e weii— what was the inspiration for the eigw e weii .— what was the inspiration for the sign ? well, let— what was the inspiration for the sign ? well, let me- what was the inspiration for the sign ? �*fvi�*i55 �*" sign? well, let me first say we're very happy to see visitors come to visit our one for countryside here. and of course, our countryside here. and of course, iiiiie— countryside here. and of course, iiiiie swep— countryside here. and of course, our little shop at— countryside here. and of course, our little shop at the— 5.i:5i. 25 and of course, our little shop at the farm. 5.5». 25 and of course, our little shop at the farm. and eiigiweiiv— our little shop at the farm. and eiigiweiiv i— our little shop at the farm. and eiigiweiiv i iwee— our little shop at the farm. and originally i just wanted a sign to originally i just wanted a sign ie ieii— originally i just wanted a sign ie ieii peopie— originally i just wanted a sign to tell people what to put in we— to tell people what to put in we weweeiv— to tell people what to put in the honesty box— to tell people what to put in the honesty box .— to tell people what to put in the honesty box . um, you know, the honesty box. um, you know, iiiiie— the honesty box. um, you know, iiiiie eei— the honesty box. um, you know, little car park,— the honesty box. um, you know, little car park, which i should say— little car park, which i should eev wee— little car park, which i should say he we— little car park, which i should say has no lines— little car park, which i should say has no lines on it. it's iwee— say has no lines on it. it's we a— say has no lines on it. it's iwei e iieii. — say has no lines on it. it's just a field. so— say has no lines on it. it's just a field. so i- say has no lines on it. it's just a field. so i called in our iweei— just a field. so i called in our ieeei eiew— just a field. so i called in our local sign writer— just a field. so i called in our local sign writer squirrel. his ie. awe— local sign writer squirrel. his name is. and squirrels got signs all name is. and squirrels got signs eii wive— name is. and squirrels got signs eii wee— name is. and squirrels got signs all over west penwith. is this ceiwweiie— all over west penwith. is this cornwall? and— all over west penwith. is this cornwall? and said, i said to sewiwei— cornwall? and said, i said to sewiwei iw— cornwall? and said, i said to squirrel in cornwall. yeah, yeah.— squirrel in cornwall. yeah, yeah. week— squirrel in cornwall. yeah, yeah. yeah .— squirrel in cornwall. yeah, yeah. yeah . i— squirrel in cornwall. yeah, yeah, yeah . i said to squirrel. yeah, yeah. i said to squirrel. uiw — yeah, yeah. i said to squirrel. we we— yeah, yeah. i said to squirrel. we we wei— yeah, yeah. i said to squirrel. um we just need— yeah, yeah. i said to squirrel. um we just need a sign to tell peopie— um we just need a sign to tell peopie wwei— um we just need a sign to tell peopie wwei ie— um we just need a sign to tell people what to put in the box £3 is people what to put in the box £3 ie wwei— people what to put in the box £3 ie we wee— people what to put in the box £3 is what we're thinking of charging.— is what we're thinking of charging. but— is what we're thinking of charging. but actually i'd like . ii— charging. but actually i'd like . i-i ieeiiv— charging. but actually i'd like , i'd really wish— charging. but actually i'd like , i'd really wish for another sign— , i'd really wish for another eigw wei— , i'd really wish for another sign that charged people parking like sign that charged people parking iike weiiv-e— sign that charged people parking like wally's rather more £10. um

i like wally's rather more £10. um i iiiw-i— like wally's rather more £10. um i iiiw-i ieeiiv— like wally's rather more £10. um i didn't really think he was going— i didn't really think he was going ie— i didn't really think he was going ie ie— i didn't really think he was going ie do i— i didn't really think he was going to do it but two days ieiei— going to do it but two days we we— going to do it but two days later he came— going to do it but two days later he came back with a sign wiiw— later he came back with a sign wiiw iew— later he came back with a sign with both messages on. and wwe-e— with both messages on. and were we— with both messages on. and that's the one— with both messages on. and that's the one you've just read ewi. — that's the one you've just read ewi. i— that's the one you've just read ewi. i — that's the one you've just read out. i see. well,— that's the one you've just read out. i see. well, i've- that's the one you've just read out. �*fvii5.. 9:5. that's the one you've just read out. 95. . out. i see. well, i've got about 20 questions to get through, so i don't know if we're going to get through all of them. i mean, what's the reaction been like to the sign then? well, parking is a the sign then? well, parking is e eeoi— the sign then? well, parking is a good view— the sign then? well, parking is a good deal neater_ 9“ .“5“7’ well, parking is a good deal neater and 9“ .“5“7 well, parking is a good deal neater and tighter iwew— a good deal neater and tighter iwew ii— a good deal neater and tighter wen i eve— a good deal neater and tighter than it ever was. _ a good deal neater and tighter than it ever was. and we now get a eeweiiewie— than it ever was. and we now get a considerate parking , which a considerate parking, which wei— a considerate parking, which means that more people can get to means that more people can get ie see— means that more people can get ie iwe— means that more people can get to see the countryside. so vew-ie— to see the countryside. so vew-we wei— to see the countryside. so you're not getting- to see the countryside. so you're not getting millionaires arriving and just being like, yeah, this is my opportunity to do some crazy parking . people do do some crazy parking. people do unger do some crazy parking. people do linger at do some crazy parking. people do iiweei ei iwe— do some crazy parking. people do linger at the sign. _ do some crazy parking. people do linger at the sign. i— do some crazy parking. people do linger at the sign. i think- linger at the sign. i think wiwei— linger at the sign. i think rather surprised , and i'm rather surprised, and i'm beginning— rather surprised, and i'm beginning ie— rather surprised, and i'm beginning to think our sign is ieiwei— beginning to think our sign is ieiwei wee— beginning to think our sign is rather more popular now than the one rather more popular now than the ei— rather more popular now than the ei iewi-e— rather more popular now than the one at land's end.— rather more popular now than the one at land's end. and indeed , one at land's end. and indeed, we-ie— one at land's end. and indeed, we-ie wave— one at land's end. and indeed, we-to have people- one at land's end. and indeed, we to have people coming we seem to have people coming wow-ieke— we seem to have people coming now-take pictures- we seem to have people coming now take pictures of the now just to take pictures of the sign— now just to take pictures of the sign ewe— now just to take pictures of the eigw and pay— now just to take pictures of the eigw and paw ee— now just to take pictures of the sign and pay £3 and pay

sometimes— sign and pay £3 and pay sometimes £10. there's sometimes iwee— sometimes £10. there's sometimes were we— sometimes £10. there's sometimes iweie e— sometimes £10. there's sometimes there are a number— sometimes £10. there's sometimes there are a number of £10. go in we— there are a number of £10. go in we iew.— there are a number of £10. go in we iew. ewwe— there are a number of £10. go in the box. quite surprising. wow okev. — the box. quite surprising. wow okay. i— the box. quite surprising. wow okev. i weew— the box. quite surprising. wow okev. i ei— the box. quite surprising. wow okay. i mean of course- the box. quite surprising. wow okay. i mean of course it- the box. quite surprising. wow okay. i mean of course it does cut down on the profits if you run out of space, but i guess from bad parking. but do you think this will catch on elsewhere? it's not so much the weeke— elsewhere? it's not so much the profits because _ elsewhere? it's not so much the profits because we're— ”57 it's not so much the profits because we're just eeveiiwe— profits because we're just covering the _ profits because we're just covering the cost of doing it, eeiiv— covering the cost of doing it, ieeiiv. iwe— covering the cost of doing it, really. it's the _ covering the cost of doing it, really. it's the fact that if peopie— really. it's the fact that if peopie cowe— really. it's the fact that if people come to a car park with eii— people come to a car park with eii eve— people come to a car park with cars all over it,— people come to a car park with cars all over it, you— people come to a car park with cars all over it, you can't you een-i— cars all over it, you can't you eew-i eei— cars all over it, you can't you eew-i eei iw— cars all over it, you can't you can't get in and— cars all over it, you can't you can't get in and then people iwi— can't get in and then people find themselves— can't get in and then people find themselves turning around and find themselves turning around ewe going— find themselves turning around and going somewhere else . and going somewhere else. iwei-e— and going somewhere else. iwei-e ii.— and going somewhere else. were i. se— and going somewhere else. that's it. so it's— and going somewhere else. that's it. so it's a- and going somewhere else. . so that's it. so it's a shame. so it's more of a it's done as- it's more of a it's done as a eeri— it's more of a it's done as a see ei— it's more of a it's done as a sort of tongue— it's more of a it's done as a sort of tongue in- it's more of a it's done as a sort of tongue in cheek deterrent. _ sort of tongue in cheek deterrent. but- sort of tongue in cheek deterrent. . 9“. sort of tongue in cheek— deterrent. but but it might make people on. yeah, yeah , yeah. we people on. yeah, yeah, yeah. we it was purely by chance really , it was purely by chance really, but the humour seemed to work. i need one now for the people that leave poo bags . okay. what is leave poo bags. okay. what is it? leave poo bags. okay. what is we — leave poo bags. okay. what is it? £3 for animal faeces and £10 for anyway. so so there we go.

ian brindle, thank you very much for joining us from free speech forjoining us from free speech nafion forjoining us from free speech nation . okay it's time now for nation. okay it's time now for social sensations. the part of the show we devote to the weird and wonderful world of social media. let's start with this recording, which purports to be of teacher rye college of a teacher at rye college arguing questioned arguing with kids who questioned why someone might identify as a cat agenda. is there is a link ieiweew— cat agenda. is there is a link ieiweew ii— cat agenda. is there is a link between it and— cat agenda. is there is a link between it and your- 5.5. 92 is there is a link between it and your saying that eeeeie— between it and your saying that eeeeie iweie — between it and your saying that eeeeie iweie ie— between it and your saying that people there is no— between it and your saying that people there is no they can't we. — people there is no they can't we. iwev— people there is no they can't be. they can't— people there is no they can't be. they can't unless- people there is no they can't be. 5.5“ . .. people there is no they can't be. . .. be. they can't unless you get a penis attached? no, i'm not. you're confusing sex and gender. no, you're confusing sex and gender. we. iw— you're confusing sex and gender. we. i-w wei— you're confusing sex and gender. no, i'm not though.— you're confusing sex and gender. no, i'm not though. because- you're confusing sex and gender. no, i'm not though. because if you have a vagina, you're a girl. if you have a penis, you're a boy. yeah. you can't be. you can't have a vagina. be a girl. but even then, because you've got those genes, you identity. how are you identified? - 2:5“. .he how are you identified? 5455“ . identity. how are you- identified? yeah. it's not identity. how are you identified? yeah. it's not an opinion we expressed in this. yes, it is. no, it's not. and if you like you need to you don't like it, you need to go a different school. this go to a different school. this is actually shocking- 95 2 5 this is actually shocking stuff . i is actually shocking stuff. i eewiew-i— is actually shocking stuff. i couldn't believe it when i first

iwee— couldn't believe it when i first saw that video. _ couldn't believe it when i first saw that video. was just i saw that video. i was just i remember just— saw that video. i was just i remember just like you hear that this remember just like you hear that iwie-eeiwe— remember just like you hear that iwie-eeiwe iw— this is what's going in our eeieeie— this is what's going in our schools-to— this is what's going in our schools.-to hear- this is what's going in our schools. to hear it like schools. but to hear it like iwee— schools. but to hear it like we ie— schools. but to hear it like that is unbelievable. right? iwis— that is unbelievable. right? iwie ie— that is unbelievable. right? this is teacher. this is the teacher. so pieewwewiv— this is the teacher. so presumably child's got presumably the child's got a phone they thought, ha phone and they thought, ha ha ha, i'm going to record this so that we all know what's going on. amazing on. yeah. yeah. amazing absolutely. this because absolutely. and this is because they basically that they basically said that identifying is , is identifying as a cat is, is ridiculous. and this teachers eeviwe— ridiculous. and this teachers eeviwe vew— ridiculous. and this teachers eeviwe vew weve— ridiculous. and this teachers saying you have to- 5 2 5 and this teachers saying you have to respect that, wweievei— saying you have to respect that, whatever that _ saying you have to respect that, whatever that means. 5455“ whatever that means. yeah. so iwe— whatever that means. yeah. so now the rebellious thing is to not believe that it seems. well, that is exactly what not believe that it seems. - well, that is exactly what seems to well, that is exactly what seems ie eewwiweiv— well, that is exactly what seems ie eewwiweiv ie— well, that is exactly what seems to genuinely be going on. but iwis— to genuinely be going on. but iwie iwis— to genuinely be going on. but this this idea— to genuinely be going on. but this this idea francis, that whet— this this idea francis, that we weee— this this idea francis, that what these these these young weee-t- what these these these young weee-t ie- what these these these young women to be reporting women are going to be reporting eetee— women are going to be reporting eweile— women are going to be reporting outed-a teacher— women are going to be reporting outed-a teacher .— women are going to be reporting outed a teacher. and if you outed to a teacher. and if you weer— outed to a teacher. and if you week we— outed to a teacher. and if you hear the full— outed to a teacher. and if you hear the full tape— outed to a teacher. and if you hear the full tape , they're hear the full tape, they're eeviwe— hear the full tape, they're saying .thev're - hear the full tape, they're saying they're going to have saying how they're going to have to saying how they're going to have te-eww— saying how they're going to have to - stuff i about - saying how they're going to have to-stuff.about this- saying how they're going to have to stuff about this and to write stuff up about this and wwetevew — to write stuff up about this and wwetevew _w- to write stuff up about this and whatever. _to .the| whatever. and also to hear the teeewei— whatever. and also to hear the teeewei sew— whatever. and also to hear the teacher say, no— whatever. and also to hear the teacher say, no ,_ whatever. and also to hear the teacher say, no , there are teacher say, no, there are eeweiiv— teacher say, no, there are actually three _ teacher say, no, there are actually three sexes. this is a teeewew — actually three sexes. this is a teeewew ii— actually three sexes. this is a teacher. if you— actually three sexes. this is a teacher. if you don't- actually three sexes. this is a teacher. �*" 25“ . . . teacher. if you don't like it, you can. yeah, shouldn't we be having some some discussion here? i mean, would want my here? i mean, i would want my kids learn the art of kids to learn the art of discussion not discussion and negotiation, not being you're wrong. get

being told you're wrong. get out. absolutely. respect to these— out. absolutely. respect to these vewwe— absolutely. respect to these young women, though, eweiv— these young women, though, eweiv-wiev- these young women, though, surely they really stood surely i mean, they really stood wei— surely i mean, they really stood weir—wen.- their ground right? well, absolutely. _ their ground right? well, absolutely. their ground right? well,i absolutely. _as a their ground right? well,- absolutely. _as a former absolutely. i mean, as a former teacher and someone who taught for i just look for around 13 years, i just look back with nostalgia at the days when you just got a chair thrown at your head instead of a debate about , do you about gender ideology, do you know, let kids be kids . just let know, let kids be kids. just let them viciously assault the teacher , have sex with each teacher, have sex with each other in the back of the classrooms? all knew where we classrooms? we all knew where we stood the 90s well, what a stood in the 90s well, what a what a great guy you were for your.i what a great guy you were for your . i was what a great guy you were for your. i was one of the best mate. not my words ofsted same . mate. not my words ofsted same. oh, what a shame you got kicked eww— oh, what a shame you got kicked ewe wew— oh, what a shame you got kicked ewe wew new— oh, what a shame you got kicked out. now next up,— oh, what a shame you got kicked out. now next up, is— oh, what a shame you got kicked out. now next up, is this video, which— out. now next up, is this video, wwiew iew-t— out. now next up, is this video, which isn't the— out. now next up, is this video, which isn't the best advert for eeeeie— which isn't the best advert for eeeeie iw— which isn't the best advert for people in their— which isn't the best advert for people in their 60s learning to drive— people in their 60s learning to drive .— drive. wow. drive. - wow. okay, wive- wow. okay, so wive— wow. okay, so this video emerged

wm.— wow. okay, so this video emerged with ee— wow. okay, so this video emerged with ee year— wow. okay, so this video emerged with 63 year olds— wow. okay, so this video emerged with 63 year olds driving tests in a.g...i.._ with 63 year olds driving tests in argentina to— with 63 year olds driving tests in argentina to cresta . did she in argentina to cresta. did she fei— in argentina to cresta. did she feii wei— in argentina to cresta. did she feii we test.— in argentina to cresta. did she fail her test, do— in argentina to cresta. did she fail her test, do you think ? fail her test, do you think? i ewewii— fail her test, do you think? i should think— fail her test, do you think? i should think so— fail her test, do you think? i should think so .— fail her test, do you think? i should think so . she'd- fail her test, do you think? i should think so . she'd have to should think so. she'd have to be very , very pretty to still be very, very pretty to still pass on that one. i think so . pass on that one. i think so. there's an examiner in the car with that person. not anymore, no. they died. oh, man. i mean , no. they died. oh, man. i mean, we've all accidentally pressed the wrong pedal, haven't we? i do not. maybe that hard . no, do not. maybe that hard. no, iwe— do not. maybe that hard. no, its e— do not. maybe that hard. no, it's a nightmare— do not. maybe that hard. no, it's a nightmare .— 25 maybe that hard. no, it's a nightmare . it's it's a nightmare. it's a wioiwweie— it's a nightmare. it's a nightmare. what do you think eiew— nightmare. what do you think eiewt .— nightmare. what do you think eiewt . vew— nightmare. what do you think about , you know, there's a thing about, you know, there's a thing eiew— about, you know, there's a thing eeewt eeeeie— about, you know, there's a thing eeewt eeeeie iw— about, you know, there's a thing about people in there is that week— about people in there is that their eoe— about people in there is that their 90s who _ about people in there is that their 90s who need who might weed— their 90s who need who might need te— their 90s who need who might need te rede— their 90s who need who might need to redo their— their 90s who need who might need to redo their test. do you eeiee— need to redo their test. do you were with— need to redo their test. do you agree with that?— need to redo their test. do you agree with that? yeah. number eweliw— agree with that? yeah. number eweliw wei— agree with that? yeah. number one-in their 70s. - agree with that? yeah. number one in their 70s. ' 2 «555 one is in their 70s. and yes, i do agree with that. and as someone has got a latin someone who has got a latin american mother, that's what they mate. is that what is they do, mate. is that what is thew — they do, mate. is that what is thew week.— they do, mate. is that what is thew veew. i— they do, mate. is that what is that? yeah. i mean if anything that's exempt only driving from some lot. was she trying some of that lot. was she trying to-vour— some of that lot. was she trying to-your father?— some of that lot. was she trying to .your father? _yeah,| to get your father? maybe. yeah, ekeewv. — to get your father? maybe. yeah, ekeewv. week.— to get your father? maybe. yeah, exactly. 5455“ 5 to get your father? maybe. yeah, exactly. /55“ 5 to get your father? maybe. yeah, exactly. /55�* f exactly. yeah. because he's off to get the hair to turkey to get the hair transplant. now, the part where we-.e_0h,_ transplant. now, the part where we-.e_0h, god.- transplant. now, the part where we're-oh, god. see,- we're going to. oh, god. see, one—0h,- we're going to. oh, god. see, one—0h, my- we're going to. oh, god. see, one—0h, my god-i

one more time. oh, my god. i just.— one more time. oh, my god. i just. — one more time. oh, my god. i just. that— one more time. oh, my god. i just. that is— one more time. oh, my god. i just. that is truly- one more time. oh, my god. i just. g just. that is truly terrifying. wow. okay, now we're going to get to— wow. okay, now we're going to get to the— wow. okay, now we're going to get to the part— okay, now we're going to get to the part where we talk through— get to the part where we talk through gett— get to the part where we talk through your unfiltered dilemmas.— through your unfiltered dilemmas. our first dilemma is hem—t— dilemmas. our first dilemma is hem—t hey- dilemmas. our first dilemma is hem—t hey a- dilemmas. our first dilemma is from—i pay a locali from joe. in real, i pay a local ott— from joe. in real, i pay a local ett tatt— from joe. in real, i pay a local ett tety te— from joe. in real, i pay a local old lady to come— from joe. in real, i pay a local old lady to come round and clean etch— old lady to come round and clean each—atl each week, but she's rubbish at theethtety— each week, but she's rubbish at absolutely-but- each week, but she's rubbish at absolutely-but she'sl absolutely rubbish. but she's tho— absolutely rubbish. but she's the out. — absolutely rubbish. but she's also old. how— absolutely rubbish. but she's also old. how do— absolutely rubbish. but she's also old. how do i- absolutely rubbish. 5: how do i better off also old. how do i better off without— also old. how do i better off without ht— also old. how do i better off without it looking— 5: how do i better off without it looking like i'm phethg— without it looking like i'm ghethg eh— without it looking like i'm picking on someone wrinkly .7 picking on someone wrinkly.7 sent— picking on someone wrinkly.7 sent them— picking on someone wrinkly.7 sent them a— picking on someone wrinkly.7 send them a text.— picking on someone wrinkly.7 send them a text. they- picking on someone wrinkly.7 send them a text. they won't be able to read it. and that's the easiest way to get rid of them. well, what about you, chris? wow:— well, what about you, chris? wow. what— well, what about you, chris? wow. what a— well, what about you, chris? wow, what a position- well, what about you, chris? wow, what a position of- wow, what a position of privilege. we hear about privilege. we hear about privilege a don't we? but privilege a lot, don't we? but the is cleaner the dilemma being is my cleaner good know this good enough? yeah, i know this is good enough? yeah, i know this he ehghtty. — good enough? yeah, i know this he ehghtty. he— good enough? yeah, i know this is slightly. it's my— good enough? yeah, i know this is slightly. it's my old,- is slightly. it's my old, disgusting,— is slightly. it's my old, disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh, disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh that-s— disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh, that's crazy. _ disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh, that's crazy. god- disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh, that's crazy. god i- disgusting, wrinkled cleaner. oh, that's crazy. god i don't know. maybe do some cleaning yourself. you have a yourself. you don't have a cleaner. i'm assuming you don't have— cleaner. i'm assuming you don't heveletetheh— cleaner. i'm assuming you don't heveletetheh-t— f i'm assuming you don't have cleaner. a cleaner. f i'm assuming you don't ha\you cleaner. a cleaner. f i'm assuming you don't ha\you cleana. a cleaner. f i'm assuming you don't ha\you cleana cleaner? .eaner. f i'm assuming you don't ha\you cleana cleaner? o'ier. f i'm assuming you don't ha\you cleana cleaner? o” {5 do you have a cleaner? of course i do you have a cleaner? of course . to.— do you have a cleaner? of course . to. hate.— do you have a cleaner? of course i do, mate. do you? yeah. what? okay, i don't. i don't have a cleaner over half a million on youtube, mate. all right. it's like that. very good. 45. 5 ” g it's like that. very good. well i ten-t— like that. very good. well i teh-t have— like that. very good. well i don't have a— like that. very good. well i don't have a cleaner. ash; don't have a cleaner. we eventuttty— don't have a cleaner. we eventually see, - don't have a cleaner. we eventually see, and we do that thing where we tidy the. the thing where we tidy up the. the flat the cleaner, we had

flat before the cleaner, we had a cleaner about six months, and then would just spend the day then we would just spend the day before cleaning the flat and before cleaning up the flat and then guilty. it's still then feeling guilty. it's still worked. then think we should. then feeling guilty. it's still worke you're n think we should. then feeling guilty. it's still workeyou're right. nk we should. then feeling guilty. it's still workeyou're right. harnessiould. yeah, you're right. harness the power— yeah, you're right. harness the power-h— yeah, you're right. harness the power-in society. - power of shame in society. that-e— power of shame in society. that-e t— power of shame in society. that's a great— power of shame in society. that's a great example. that's ghet— that's a great example. that's just hvhthg— that's a great example. that's just inviting people around. that's why i don't like that's whyj don't like anybody that's why i don't like anybody ever coming over to our home. it ever coming over to our home. ht hates— ever coming over to our home. it makes everything— ever coming over to our home. it makes everything far- ever coming over to our home. it makes everything far too tidy. good. right. well, tidy. very good. right. well, thank— tidy. very good. right. well, thank-much— tidy. very good. right. well, thank-much for- tidy. very good. right. well,| thank-much for joining tidy. very good. right. well,- thank-much forjoining us thank you so much forjoining us for thank you so much forjoining us her hee— thank you so much forjoining us for free speech— thank you so much forjoining us for free speech nation. was for free speech nation. this was the _wodehousei for free speech nation. this was- the _wodehouse books the week when pg wodehouse books whet— the week when pg wodehouse books were ruled outdated— the week when pg wodehouse books were ruled outdated and a man tethe— were ruled outdated and a man hunt-hete— were ruled outdated and a man found were willing to pay found people were willing to pay £10 found people were willing to pay tho-the— found people were willing to pay £10-like wally's.- found people were willing to pay £10 like wally's. thank £10 to park like wally's. thank you— £10 to park like wally's. thank you very— £10 to park like wally's. thank you very-te— £10 to park like wally's. thank you very-to hy- £10 to park like wally's. thank you very to my panel. you very much to my panel. creeettt— you very much to my panel. cressida beautiful and cressida wetton, beautiful and hheee— cressida wetton, beautiful and frances foster— cressida wetton, beautiful and frances foster . _ cressida wetton, beautiful and frances foster . o" cressida wetton, beautiful and frances foster. o“ 5: cressida wetton, beautiful and frances foster . o“ 5“: frances foster. oh, and my guests this evening. thank you very much, guys. and if you want to join us live in the studio and be part of our wonderful audience, can you can you just go to audiences .com? stay tuned for the brilliant— go to audiences .com? stay tuned for the brilliant mark— q5 5.: f f“ stay tuned for the brilliant mark dolan tonight— for the brilliant mark dolan tonight that's— for the brilliant mark dolan tonight that's links and don't toget— tonight that's links and don't forget headliners on night forget headliners on every night at h— forget headliners on every night at h-ththt— forget headliners on every night at h-ththt yet— forget headliners on every night at ii-thank you for- at 11 pm. thank you for watching— at 11 pm. thank you for watching speech nation watching free speech nation geethye— watching free speech nation goodbye i hello - watching free speech nation goodbye ”t“55; watching free speech nation goodbye. hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. some

of us may have seen some lightning strikes and heard a few of thunder to end few rumbles of thunder to end sunday. all to this sunday. it's all due to this area low pressure that has area of low pressure that has sat the west of the uk. sat to just the west of the uk. but unsettled but it's bringing unsettled conditions many areas and conditions across many areas and we will continue to see some of those thunderstorms tracked northwards as we head throughout the evening. the rest of sunday evening. increasingly though, into the overnight it's less the overnight period, it's less the thunder more this band of thunder and more this band of heavy our heavy rain that becomes our issue. tracking across northern england scotland . again, england into scotland. again, some rain around half a some heavy rain around half a month's worth of rainfall for some areas could cause some surface water issues turning dner surface water issues turning drier the south of that drier to the south of that through early hours of through the early hours of monday most of our monday morning. most of our towns holding up towns and cities holding up around 16 c. so a relatively around 15, 16 c. so a relatively mild start to the new working week , but it's going to be a wet week, but it's going to be a wet one across scotland that one across scotland with that rain its way rain gradually tracking its way northwards, drier begin northwards, drier to begin the day everywhere else . but day for everywhere else. but increasingly into afternoon, increasingly into the afternoon, we'll a scattering of we'll again see a scattering of heavy developing . some heavy showers developing. some thunderstorms but thunderstorms also possible, but a bit sunshine in between a bit more sunshine in between those showers on monday and in that sunshine. we'll see

temperatures highs temperatures climbing to highs of 20 to 26 c into monday evening. those showers will gradually clear their way off. it will take some time for parts of northern ireland, western scotland, into scotland, but generally into tuesday morning, it will turn dner tuesday morning, it will turn drier as well. another drier here as well. another humid for many of us, some humid night for many of us, some mist fog forming . but into mist and fog forming. but into tuesday, we're then watching this heavy rain that's this area of heavy rain that's going start pushing in from going to start pushing in from the south. there is still some uncertainty in regards the uncertainty in regards to the exact details this. so do exact details of this. so do stay date with the stay up to date with the forecast, expecting forecast, but we are expecting it generally push northwards it to generally push northwards again some heavy again with some heavy rain. thunderstorms. meanwhile for northern scotland, northern ireland and scotland, whilst drier, whilst the day will start drier, we also see some we could also see some thunderstorms developing during the that due the afternoon. all of that due to area of low pressure, to that area of low pressure, but it is eventually moving away to east, allowing to the north and east, allowing this ridge of high pressure to build its way in through for thursday. as go over the thursday. so as we go over the next days, the next few days, generally the showers become fewer and showers will become fewer and less intense