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us is 3 pm. “1m is 3 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now is the government right to stop immigrants jumping the social housing ladder and prioritise housing? british nationals first? i certainly think so. i would go further when it came to all of public services on a all of our public services on a similar housing theme as well . similar housing theme as well. mortgage misery looming for millions. what will it mean for you as interest rates go up ? who you as interest rates go up? who will be the winners? who will be the losers? this will affect everyone , either directly or everyone, either directly or indirectly . we'll get stuck indirectly. we'll get stuck right into that. but get a load of more than 1000 foreign of this. more than 1000 foreign criminals, including rapists, murderers and terrorists, are currently on the run in britain . in what on earth is going on? we need to round those people up and deport them sharpish in other news. boris johnson yes,
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of course. you can't keep him out of the news agenda, can you? mps be voting on mps are going to be voting on bofis mps are going to be voting on boris future in a boris johnson's future in a sense, meaningless sense, largely meaningless about this done one this because he has done one now, but going now, hasn't he? but we're going to tory mps are to be seeing which tory mps are actually going to stand up and back johnson that will be back boris johnson that will be fascinating. drop fascinating. that should drop live on this show. and live on this very show. and finally , yet another series of finally, yet another series of gender madness. a school is supporting a pupil who wants to identify as a cat. yep. okay the world has officially gone mad, but get a load of this leaked recording from inside a british school of a teacher appearing to try to indoctrinate a child who thinks that there are only two genders. the. thinks that there are only two genders. the . gender all not genders. the. gender all not suggested— genders. the. gender all not suggested is— genders. the. gender all not suggested is in— genders. the. gender all not suggested is in that- g: the. gender all not suggested is in that there is a gender.— suggested is in that there is a gender. people— suggested is in that there is a gender. people who don't believe they— gender. people who don't believe they have— gender. people who don't believe they have t— gender. people who don't believe they have a gender— gender. people who don't believe they have a gender at . all a they have a gender at. all i'll tave— they have a gender at. all i'll have t— they have a gender at. all i'll have t meet— they have a gender at. all i'll have a much longer- they have a gender at. all i'll have a much longer version of that clip for you coming your way shortly, but get those emails coming in gb views gb news .com. we're off to a flyer
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this want to know this monday. i want to know whether you think that whether or not you think that british nationals should be prioritised social prioritised not just for social housing, but every other housing, but for every other pubuc housing, but for every other public service as well. gb views gb news .com. now though, it's your headlines with tatiana . your headlines with tatiana. patrick. thank you very much and 9°0d_ patrick. thank you very much and good .fl...oo.._ patrick. thank you very much and good afternoon. it's— m thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 3:02. ti< thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 3:02. this is good afternoon. it's 3:02. this te tte— good afternoon. it's 3:02. this te tte ttteet— good afternoon. it's 3:02. this is the latest from _ good afternoon. it's 3:02. this is the latest from the newsroom. the— is the latest from the newsroom. tte tttme— is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister— is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister is expected to ettp— the prime minister is expected to ettt t— the prime minister is expected to skip a debate— the prime minister is expected to skip a debate on the report that— to skip a debate on the report that teete— to skip a debate on the report that found boris— to skip a debate on the report that found boris johnson had ttet— that found boris johnson had ttet eter— that found boris johnson had lied over partygate mps will teete— lied over partygate mps will decide shortly— lied over partygate mps will decide shortly whether to etnetten— decide shortly whether to sanction the _ decide shortly whether to sanction the former prime ttttttetet— sanction the former prime minister after— sanction the former prime minister after the privileges cemmtttee— minister after the privileges committee found he repeatedly mtetet— committee found he repeatedly mtetet tte— committee found he repeatedly misled the house— committee found he repeatedly misled the house of commons. the eemmtttee— misled the house of commons. the committee recommended that mr tetneet— committee recommended that mr johnson should— committee recommended that mr johnson should face a 90 day eteenetent— johnson should face a 90 day suspension had— johnson should face a 90 day suspension had he not already teetgttet— suspension had he not already teetgnet tn— suspension had he not already resigned in advance of his judgement.— resigned in advance of his judgement. however mrjohnson's teeteten— judgement. however mrjohnson's teeteten te— judgement. however mrjohnson's decision to stand— judgement. however mrjohnson's decision to stand down means mps will decision to stand down means mps wttt ne— decision to stand down means mps wttt no teeter— decision to stand down means mps will no longer be— decision to stand down means mps will no longer be voting on his tuttte— will no longer be voting on his tuttte tn— will no longer be voting on his future in parliament as long as the met— future in parliament as long as the met police— future in parliament as long as the met police has confirmed it's the met police has confirmed tt-e nett— the met police has confirmed it's now looking— the met police has confirmed it's now looking into three petettttt— it's now looking into three potential breaches of covid
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tegtttttene— potential breaches of covid regulations between june 2020 ent— regulations between june 2020 and met— regulations between june 2020 ant ttty 20m,— regulations between june 2020 and may 20th, 21— regulations between june 2020 and may 20th, 21 at downing street— and may 20th, 21 at downing street tet— and may 20th, 21 at downing street and chequers . that's street and chequers. that's tttet— street and chequers. that's tttet tte— street and chequers. that's after the sunday mirror obtained vttee— after the sunday mirror obtained vttee teettge— after the sunday mirror obtained video footage showing conservative - video footage showing conservative staff partying tutttg— conservative staff partying tutttg tte— conservative staff partying during the pandemic lockdown and tettng— during the pandemic lockdown and joking abett— during the pandemic lockdown and joking about restrictions in tttee— joking about restrictions in pttee. at— joking about restrictions in pttee. at the— joking about restrictions in place. at the time, tory staff te— place. at the time, tory staff can be seen ignoring the geemmen-et— can be seen ignoring the government's social distancing tutee— government's social distancing tutee et— government's social distancing tutee at the— government's social distancing rules at the height of the pettemte. — rules at the height of the pandemic. rishi sunak says he teeen-t— pandemic. rishi sunak says he teeen-t went— pandemic. rishi sunak says he doesn't want to _ pandemic. rishi sunak says he doesn't want to interfere in mattere— doesn't want to interfere in mtttete te— doesn't want to interfere in matters as well. " i matters as well. this committee was established under the former prime minister it commanded the confidence of the house at the time and i'm sure that they've done their work thoroughly and i respect them for that. obviously, this is a matter for the for not the the house, for not the government, and that's why each an colleagues will an individual colleagues will make mind the make up their own mind when the time so you not going time comes. so are you not going to an to be there? i said each an individual make individual colleague will make up own when the time up their own mind when the time comes. is a matter for the comes. this is a matter for the house rather than for the government. important government. it's an important distinction that's distinction in and that's why i wouldn't want influence wouldn't want to influence anyone of that vote . anyone in advance of that vote. former prime minister david cemete— former prime minister david cameron told— former prime minister david cameron told the covid 19 ttttttt— cameron told the covid 19
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tttttty tt— cameron told the covid 19 tttwtw tt wee— cameron told the covid 19 inquiry it was a— cameron told the covid 19 inquiry it was a mistake not to teet— inquiry it was a mistake not to took at— inquiry it was a mistake not to look at different— inquiry it was a mistake not to look at different types of tteeteee— look at different types of diseases when preparing for twtwe— diseases when preparing for future pandemics . mr cameron future pandemics. mr cameron ewe— future pandemics. mr cameron gave ewtenee— future pandemics. mr cameron gave evidence to— future pandemics. mr cameron gave evidence to the independent tntwtw— gave evidence to the independent tttwtw tete— gave evidence to the independent tttwtw ttte twe— gave evidence to the independent inquiry into the uk's response to the— inquiry into the uk's response to the cowo— inquiry into the uk's response to the covid pandemic. like so meet— to the covid pandemic. like so meet twe— to the covid pandemic. like so much time was— to the covid pandemic. like so much time was spent on a ptetemte— much time was spent on a pandemic influenza and that was as the— pandemic influenza and that was seen as the greatest danger. ant— seen as the greatest danger. ant tt— seen as the greatest danger. ant tt we-we— seen as the greatest danger. and it we've had _ seen as the greatest danger. and it we've had flus. - seen as the greatest danger. and it we've had flus. we've had very bad years for flu . so it is very bad years for flu. so it is a big danger. but why wasn't more and more questions more time and more questions asked what turned out to asked about what turned out to be the pandemic that we faced? and i it's very hard to answer why that's the case. and i'm sure this public inquiry is going to spend a lot of time on that. mortgage rates in the uk twe— that. mortgage rates in the uk have reacted— that. mortgage rates in the uk have reached a— that. mortgage rates in the uk have reached a new— mortgage rates in the uk have reached a new high this wett— have reached a new high this year, increasing— have reached a new high this year, increasing costs for borrowers and- year, increasing costs for borrowers and those who want to purchase— borrowers and those who want to tttettee t— borrowers and those who want to purchase a home.— borrowers and those who want to purchase a home. a— borrowers and those who want to purchase a home. a two year twee— purchase a home. a two year ttxet tome— purchase a home. a two year fixed home loan— purchase a home. a two year fixed home loan now has a rate teet— fixed home loan now has a rate just above— fixed home loan now has a rate twet ttewe 6- — fixed home loan now has a rate just above 6. that's according to ttntnettt— just above 6. that's according to financial firm _ just above 6. that's according to financial firm moneyfacts . to financial firm moneyfacts. tnteteet— to financial firm moneyfacts. interest rates— to financial firm moneyfacts. interest rates have been raised 12 interest rates have been raised tz twee— interest rates have been raised 12 times since— interest rates have been raised 12 times since 2021. in a battle to tame— 12 times since 2021. in a battle to tame inflation.— 12 times since 2021. in a battle to tame inflation. this morning, the tttme— to tame inflation. this morning, the prime minister— to tame inflation. this morning, the prime minister ruled out any exte— the prime minister ruled out any extra government— the prime minister ruled out any extra government assistance for teteetette— extra government assistance for households struggling with
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payments— households struggling with ptynents .— households struggling with payments . david warburton has payments. david warburton has etttetttty— payments. david warburton has officially resigned as an mp tettewtne— officially resigned as an mp following accusations of sexual nettssnent— following accusations of sexual harassment and— following accusations of sexual harassment and cocaine use . the harassment and cocaine use. the teetsten— harassment and cocaine use. the teetsten new— harassment and cocaine use. the decision now means— harassment and cocaine use. the decision now means rishi sunak ttees— decision now means rishi sunak ttees tnetnet— decision now means rishi sunak faces another potentially tttttewtt— faces another potentially difficult by—election in the senenen— difficult by—election in the somerton and— difficult by—election in the somerton and frome seat vacated by we— somerton and frome seat vacated by tne tetnnet— somerton and frome seat vacated by the former tory— somerton and frome seat vacated by the former tory mp. the 57 yest— by the former tory mp. the 57 yet ete— by the former tory mp. the 57 yen ett ws— by the former tory mp. the 57 year old was suspended from the party— year old was suspended from the petty tn— year old was suspended from the petty tn april— year old was suspended from the petty tn april test— year old was suspended from the party in april last year pending the party in april last year pending tne ewtee— party in april last year pending the outcome of— party in april last year pending the outcome of an investigation tnte— the outcome of an investigation tnte tne— the outcome of an investigation into the allegations where he tett— into the allegations where he tett en— into the allegations where he told gb news— into the allegations where he told gb news he's learnt a tessen— told gb news he's learnt a tessen . — told gb news he's learnt a lesson . ' c�*icg told gb news he's learnt a lesson . ' oily told gb news he's learnt a- lesson . absolutely idiotic. and lesson. absolutely idiotic. and i made a i made a ridiculous decision and a silly mistake. i was i was led down a pathway . i was i was led down a pathway. i was i was led down a pathway. i was i was caught. i was photographed deliberately set up and i fell for it. it was naivety and stupidity. there's no question about that . train no question about that. train drivers at 16 rail " train drivers at 16 rail operators wttt— drivers at 16 rail operators will refuse— drivers at 16 rail operators will refuse to— drivers at 16 rail operators will refuse to work overtime for six will refuse to work overtime for stx ttys— will refuse to work overtime for stx ttys next— will refuse to work overtime for six days next month in their engetng— six days next month in their ongoing dispute— six days next month in their ongoing dispute over pay . the ongoing dispute over pay. the asttt— ongoing dispute over pay. the asttt wtnen— ongoing dispute over pay. the aslef union said— ongoing dispute over pay. the aslef union said its members wttt— aslef union said its members will withdraw— aslef union said its members will withdraw non—contractual eventne— will withdraw non—contractual eventne .— will withdraw non—contractual overtime , known— will withdraw non—contractual overtime , known as rest day, overtime, known as rest day,
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wetttng— overtime, known as rest day, working tten — overtime, known as rest day, working from monday the 3rd of july working from monday the 3rd of twty tttt— working from monday the 3rd of twty tttt tne— working from monday the 3rd of july till the 8th— working from monday the 3rd of july till the 8th of july. the wettewts— july till the 8th of july. the walkouts will— july till the 8th of july. the walkouts will coincide with the first— walkouts will coincide with the tttst weet— walkouts will coincide with the first week of— walkouts will coincide with the first week of wimbledon, a man has first week of wimbledon, a man nts ttet— first week of wimbledon, a man nts ptet gwttty— first week of wimbledon, a man has pled guilty to— first week of wimbledon, a man has pled guilty to wearing an ettenstwe— has pled guilty to wearing an offensive shirt— has pled guilty to wearing an offensive shirt about the hillsborough_ offensive shirt about the hillsborough disaster to the fa cup hillsborough disaster to the fa cut ttntt— hillsborough disaster to the fa cup ttntt en— hillsborough disaster to the fa cup final on june— hillsborough disaster to the fa cup final on june 3rd, 33 year ete— cup final on june 3rd, 33 year ett ttnes— cup final on june 3rd, 33 year old james white— cup final on june 3rd, 33 year old james white has been fined tweete— old james white has been fined tnooo ent— old james white has been fined tnooo tnt ts— old james white has been fined £1,000 and is also— old james white has been fined £1,000 and is also banned from tttenttne— £1,000 and is also banned from tttenttng any— £1,000 and is also banned from attending any regulated football nttenes— attending any regulated football nttenes tet— attending any regulated football matches for four— attending any regulated football matches for four years. he wore the matches for four years. he wore tne snttt— matches for four years. he wore tne snttt tt— matches for four years. he wore the shirt at wembley stadium ttspttytng— the shirt at wembley stadium ttspttytng tn— the shirt at wembley stadium displaying an offensive comment ttewt— displaying an offensive comment ttewt tne— displaying an offensive comment about the disaster— displaying an offensive comment about the disaster where 97 fans ttet— about the disaster where 97 fans ttet ts— about the disaster where 97 fans ttet as t— about the disaster where 97 fans died as a result— about the disaster where 97 fans died as a result of— about the disaster where 97 fans died as a result of a crush at a ntten— died as a result of a crush at a match between— died as a result of a crush at a match between liverpool and wetttngntn— match between liverpool and nottingham forest in 1989. the neme— nottingham forest in 1989. the home secretary— nottingham forest in 1989. the home secretary is— nottingham forest in 1989. the home secretary is urging police entets— home secretary is urging police entets tetess— home secretary is urging police chiefs across england and wales to chiefs across england and wales te tenn— chiefs across england and wales te tent up— chiefs across england and wales te tent we tne— chiefs across england and wales to ramp up the use— chiefs across england and wales to ramp up the use of stop and setten— to ramp up the use of stop and setten pewets— to ramp up the use of stop and search powers .— to ramp up the use of stop and search powers . suella braverman search powers. suella braverman sett— search powers. suella braverman sttt ettteets— search powers. suella braverman said officers who _ search powers. suella braverman said officers who use the powers newe— said officers who use the powers ntwe net— said officers who use the powers ntwe net tutt— said officers who use the powers have her full support sought to prevent— have her full support sought to prevent violence— have her full support sought to prevent violence and save more ttwes. — prevent violence and save more ttwes. newewen— prevent violence and save more lives. however, critics of stop ent— lives. however, critics of stop and setten— lives. however, critics of stop and search say— lives. however, critics of stop and search say it— lives. however, critics of stop and search say it disproportion tweets— and search say it disproportion tweets tweet— and search say it disproportion targets black and— and search say it disproportion targets black and ethnic ntnenty— targets black and ethnic minority communities. the prime tttntstet— minority communities. the prime tttntstet nes— minority communities. the prime minister has told—
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minority communities. the prime minister has told president zetenstyy,— minister has told president zelenskyy, ukraine's counter—offensive against russia is counter—offensive against russia ts newne— counter—offensive against russia ts nettng teet— counter—offensive against russia is making good progress. the two teeters— is making good progress. the two tettets stewe— is making good progress. the two leaders spoke earlier this netntne— leaders spoke earlier this netntng ts— leaders spoke earlier this morning as kiev's troops seek to retake— morning as kiev's troops seek to retake territory— morning as kiev's troops seek to retake territory occupied by twttn-s— retake territory occupied by putin's forces— retake territory occupied by putin's forces .— retake territory occupied by putin's forces . as rishi sunak putin's forces. as rishi sunak says— putin's forces. as rishi sunak stys tne— putin's forces. as rishi sunak stys tne un— putin's forces. as rishi sunak stys tne we ts— putin's forces. as rishi sunak says the uk is firmly behind wttttne— says the uk is firmly behind ukraine and— says the uk is firmly behind ukraine and small steps forward will ukraine and small steps forward wttt tttng— ukraine and small steps forward will bring success.— ukraine and small steps forward will bring success. peace. in nts— will bring success. peace. in nts ettt— will bring success. peace. in his call with— will bring success. peace. in his call with mr— will bring success. peace. in his call with mr sunak, he said tney— his call with mr sunak, he said they discussed— his call with mr sunak, he said they discussed further cooperation - they discussed further cooperation to expand ukraine's etntttttttes— cooperation to expand ukraine's capabilities through long—range wettens— capabilities through long—range wettens . tnts— capabilities through long—range weapons . this is— capabilities through long—range weapons . this is gb news. we'll weapons. this is gb news. we'll tnnt— weapons. this is gb news. we'll tnnt yet— weapons. this is gb news. we'll the yen mete— weapons. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it ntppens.— bring you more news as it ntppens. wew— bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to . patrick happy patrick- happy monday. tttnet— happy monday. lows tttttet— happy monday. lows to get tttnet— happy monday. lows to get stuck into today, but i am starting with this. british nationals should be given social housing before migrants that shouldn't before migrants that shouldn't be controversial . in fact, be controversial. in fact, i would go further . we shouldn't would go further. we shouldn't be accepting migrants if they are going to require social
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housing and i'd also prioritise british nationals when it comes to all public services, gp appointments, school places, etcetera. what happens now is that our social housing scheme blindly prioritises the most vulnerable . so when someone who vulnerable. so when someone who has just moved to britain can make the case that they are more vulnerable say , a young vulnerable than say, a young single mum, or even in many cases as a military veteran, they can jump the queue, but it isn't just economic migrants, it's people classed as refugees as well. so when a situation like sudan say happens and we evacuate a load of people , in evacuate a load of people, in theory, in theory , they could theory, in theory, they could immediately get to the top of the queue over someone who's been born and bred in britain, paid their lives , paid taxes all their lives, fallen hard and been fallen on hard times, and been waiting for to a roof waiting for years to get a roof over head and that, in my over their head and that, in my view, is just plain wrong. more than 1.2 million households are on waiting lists apparently for social around 1 in social housing and around 1 in 10 those given a home on 10 of those given a home on non—uk nationals. but when you look at areas like brent in
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london for 40% of new social homes were let to non—uk nationals in 2021 to 22. why should someone who has just moved to this country of their own free choice be able to bump a brit down the housing queue ? a brit down the housing queue? we had net migration of around 606,000 last year. that is more than the population of sheffield . it is morally wrong for a government to allow that amount of people into our country and make vulnerable british nationals fight them for social housing. and they're not just fighting for social housing, are they? doctor's they? it's doctor's appointments. overcrowding they? it's doctor's apthe itments. overcrowding they? it's doctor's apthe nhsits. overcrowding they? it's doctor's apthe nhs in overcrowding they? it's doctor's apthe nhs in generalrcrowding they? it's doctor's apthe nhs in general .:rowding they? it's doctor's apthe nhs in general. it'sding in the nhs in general. it's school for their kids . school places for their kids. the british public are currently being asked compromise their being asked to compromise their housing ing health, education, safety and culture to accommodate mass migration without seeing the real economic benefit of it. it is time for the government to act. it's time for the government to put british citizens first to the top of the queue. that would be nice, wouldn't it? once we've housed our own, then we can look
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to house the world. if we want . to house the world. if we want. to yeah, like i said, loads of other topics in town today, but i wanted your views on this. gb views at gb news dot com. should we priority quizzing brits? we be priority quizzing brits? should brits get to the top of the queue? not in housing, the queue? not just in housing, whether comes to doctor's whether it comes to doctor's appointments, places appointments, school places, etcetera? something etcetera? is that something that would migration more would make mass migration more palatable you? gb views at palatable to you? gb views at gbnews.com, joined now by gbnews.com, i'm joined now by the julie ford. the housing expert julie ford. juue the housing expert julie ford. julie thank you very much. i believe julie joins me now. yes, there we go. now, julie , look, there we go. now, julie, look, it is a very contentious issue this, but the moment, this, but but at the moment, there areas in the country there are areas in the country where like brent, for example, southwark in london is another one where huge , huge amounts of one where huge, huge amounts of housing stock are going to people who have, for want of a better phrase, kind of just got here can make a very here really, and can make a very genuine case for being incredibly there incredibly vulnerable. there could that. could be no doubt about that. but a amount of but we do have a vast amount of british people already here who've been housing waiting who've been on housing waiting
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lists. my view that lists. and it's my view that they be bumped down they shouldn't be bumped down they shouldn't be bumped down the queue. do you think this is something government something that the government will ? yeah something that the government will ?yeah hi, will actually do? yeah hi, patrick. thank you- will actually do? yeah hi, patrick. thank you for- ii i t:t:::t7 “415?" hi, patrick. thank you for having will actually do? yeah hi,- patrick. thank you for having me on patrick. thank you for having me en te— patrick. thank you for having me en te tttt— patrick. thank you for having me on to talk about— patrick. thank you for having me on to talk about this. it's senetntnt— on to talk about this. it's something i'm- on to talk about this. it's something i'm really passionate ttett— something i'm really passionate ttett, ttst— something i'm really passionate ttett, ttst ts— something i'm really passionate about, just as-as- something i'm really passionate about, just as as well. about, just as you are, as well. ant— about, just as you are, as well. ant-tet— about, just as you are, as well. ant-tee tstnt- about, just as you are, as well. and-for using all. about, just as you are, as well. and for using all of and thank you for using all of the and thank you for using all of tne-tntt— and thank you for using all of the -that-actuallyl the figures that i've actually got the figures that i've actually get-et— the figures that i've actually got-of-tsl got in front of me today as wet.— got in front of me today as wet. tn,— got in front of me today as well. um, but— got in front of me today as well. um, but i— got in front of me today as well. um, but i am absolutely in tettt— well. um, but i am absolutely in total agreement— well. um, but i am absolutely in total agreement with you as nnttsn— total agreement with you as british citizens— total agreement with you as british citizens ,_ total agreement with you as british citizens , we should be british citizens, we should be ttte— british citizens, we should be ttte te— british citizens, we should be ttte te te— british citizens, we should be ttte te te tt— british citizens, we should be able to be at the— british citizens, we should be able to be at the front of the queue — able to be at the front of the queue tet— able to be at the front of the queue for housing. it's the same for queue for housing. it's the same tet nest— queue for housing. it's the same for most european— queue for housing. it's the same for most european countries as wet.— for most european countries as wet. tney— for most european countries as well. they house— for most european countries as well. they house their own tetete— well. they house their own before anybody— well. they house their own before anybody else. so i don't tettty— before anybody else. so i don't tettty see— before anybody else. so i don't tettty wny— before anybody else. so i don't really see why we _ before anybody else. so i don't really see why we should be any ttttetent. — really see why we should be any different. the— really see why we should be any different. the problem i have wttn— different. the problem i have wttn-tetett— different. the problem i have with-report is,- different. the problem i have with-report is, is- different. the problem i have with report is, is it just with this report is, is it just tnetnet— with this report is, is it just another sticking plaster to stem another sticking plaster to stem tn tttety— another sticking plaster to stem tn tttety et— another sticking plaster to stem an artery or bleed? will we tettttty— an artery or bleed? will we actually see— an artery or bleed? will we actually see it— an artery or bleed? will we actually see it come to fruition 7 actually see it come to fruition e tne— actually see it come to fruition e tne ntn— actually see it come to fruition ? the main issue— actually see it come to fruition ? the main issue being the tettt— ? the main issue being the tent et— ? the main issue being the amount of legal- ? the main issue being the amount of legal situations that are amount of legal situations that tettt— amount of legal situations that tetnt te— amount of legal situations that are going to have— amount of legal situations that are going to have to be tenettet— are going to have to be remedied. this will take in a lot remedied. this will take in a tet et— remedied. this will take in a lot of current— remedied. this will take in a lot of current legislation that wttt— lot of current legislation that wttt neet— lot of current legislation that wttt neet te — lot of current legislation that will need to be— lot of current legislation that will need to be deregulated and ettntet— will need to be deregulated and changed. you've— will need to be deregulated and changed. you've also then got ntntn— changed. you've also then got ntntn tents.— changed. you've also then got human rights. you've got discrimination- human rights. you've got
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discrimination and you've also got discrimination and you've also get tne— discrimination and you've also got the homelessness regulations that got the homelessness regulations tntt wttt— got the homelessness regulations that will have— got the homelessness regulations that will have to— got the homelessness regulations that will have to be amended as wett— that will have to be amended as wet, wnten— that will have to be amended as well, which have— that will have to be amended as well, which have only recently teen— well, which have only recently been amended.— well, which have only recently been amended. in 2017. so tttnettn— been amended. in 2017. so tttnettn t— been amended. in 2017. so although i absolutely agree with the sentiment,— although i absolutely agree with the sentiment, i'm very, very tettettnt— the sentiment, i'm very, very tettettnt te — the sentiment, i'm very, very reluctant to believe it will te — reluctant to believe it will come to fruition . “415?" reluctant to believe it will come to fruition . / e�*t: come to fruition. yeah, and that really is the key point, isn't it? is any of it? which is really is any of this actually going to happen? but you maybe try to but could you maybe try to possibly than i could possibly better than i could really explain the current situation? so say that situation? so let's say that you're a young, single mum . was you're a young, single mum. was sofa surfing at the moment and had been for a year and was with her child in what i think many people would regard as a vulnerable situation in an area with a very limited amount of housing stock and then say , i housing stock and then say, i don't know, 500 refugees from ukraine came or something along these lines. okay. or people who had just moved over legally from india, for example . is there india, for example. is there a situation where she could be bumped down the queue in order to accommodate those people? yeah there is absolutely the way
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the system works at the moment is when you're looking at homelessness, you have five legal tests of homelessness and all the council officers are looking at is whether that person meets those five legal tests of homelessness . now each tests of homelessness. now each of those tests of homelessness. now each et tnese twe— tests of homelessness. now each of those five legal— tests of homelessness. now each of those five legal tests- now each of those five legal tests are weten— of those five legal tests are broken down,— of those five legal tests are broken down, even further into own individual— broken down, even further into own individual criteria for. so tnettn— own individual criteria for. so even though you— own individual criteria for. so even though you talk about your yew— even though you talk about your yew stntte— even though you talk about your yew stntte nten— even though you talk about your your single mum with her child wne-s— your single mum with her child wne-s teen— your single mum with her child we been yet— your single mum with her child who's been, you know, a british etttzen— who's been, you know, a british etttzen ttt— who's been, you know, a british citizen all of— who's been, you know, a british citizen all of her— who's been, you know, a british citizen all of her life, she may net— citizen all of her life, she may net tettttty— citizen all of her life, she may not actually be— citizen all of her life, she may not actually be as— citizen all of her life, she may not actually be as in priority neet— not actually be as in priority neet ts— not actually be as in priority need as somebody who's come from tnetnet— need as somebody who's come from tnetnet eetntty, — need as somebody who's come from another country, may— need as somebody who's come from another country, may be not able to another country, may be not able te tetttn— another country, may be not able te tetttn te— another country, may be not able to return to their— another country, may be not able to return to their country due to return to their country due te tne — to return to their country due to the political— to return to their country due to the political situations going— to the political situations tetnt en— to the political situations tetnt en ewet— to the political situations going on over there. they would tenttnety— going on over there. they would tenttnety te— going on over there. they would genuinely be seen— going on over there. they would genuinely be seen as more wttnetttte— genuinely be seen as more vulnerable and— genuinely be seen as more vulnerable and therefore they went— vulnerable and therefore they wettt te — vulnerable and therefore they would be allocated more points or would be allocated more points et t nttnet— would be allocated more points or a higher banding in the netstnt— or a higher banding in the housing allocation system . ' t: housing allocation system. and we te— housing allocation system. and we to see— housing allocation system. and we do see people— housing allocation system. and we do see people ,_ housing allocation system. and we do see people , don't- housing allocation system. and we do see people , don't we, like we do see people, don't we, like homeless military veterans. it's a massive bugbear mine. this a massive bugbear of mine. this because something because we have something called the military covenant, which i'm sure aware which sure you're aware of, which really kind of boil it all really to kind of boil it all down is supposed to give veterans, especially with things like or unfortunately,
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like ptsd or unfortunately, alcoholism, which can be rife in the veteran community as well. the priority , housing and mental the priority, housing and mental health care. and i have seen firsthand from from previous campaigns that i've done elsewhere where those people have been bumped down a list and have been bumped down a list and have actually ended up genuinely on the streets . and that really on the streets. and that really kind of grinds my gears. one would have assumed that it would be the morally right thing to do, especially when it comes to someone who's fought for this country actually be able to country to actually be able to give them housing. you mentioned the there, the word discrimination there, though . i suppose that's though. i suppose that's something that councils are maybe afraid it? which is maybe afraid of, is it? which is that they are given a that if they are given a straight choice between with the best in the world, tom best will in the world, tom smith somebody not smith and somebody who's not got that that could that name say that they could then be done for what, what racial discrimination if they prioritise smith yeah, prioritise. tom smith yeah, absolutely. spot on. and the ttetten — absolutely. spot on. and the ptetten tntt— absolutely. spot on. and the problem that we've- c�*icg spot on. and the problem that we've got again is tttnettn— problem that we've got again is although we've— problem that we've got again is although we've left the eu, stttt— although we've left the eu, we're still governed by a lot of the we're still governed by a lot of tne tttetetn— we're still governed by a lot of the european legislation and tntt— the european legislation and tntt eees— the european legislation and that comes under the article
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ettnt— that comes under the article ettnt ntntn— that comes under the article eight human rights directive as wett— eight human rights directive as wett .— eight human rights directive as wett . se— eight human rights directive as wett . se wnen— eight human rights directive as well . so when you're looking at well. so when you're looking at housingt— well. so when you're looking at housing, somebody and their vulnerability,— housing, somebody and their vulnerability, you're also teettnt— vulnerability, you're also teettnt tt— vulnerability, you're also looking at their ethnicity and ewetytntnt— looking at their ethnicity and ewetytntnt tne— looking at their ethnicity and everything the council officers are everything the council officers tettt— everything the council officers tetnt nts— everything the council officers are doing has to— everything the council officers are doing has to be calculated to are doing has to be calculated te nteteet— are doing has to be calculated to protect themselves because wntt— to protect themselves because wntt tney— to protect themselves because what they don't— to protect themselves because what they don't want is a discrimination— what they don't want is a discrimination case or anything ttttnen— discrimination case or anything further, because— discrimination case or anything further, because as a public body,— further, because as a public bodyt-open- further, because as a public tety-enen te- further, because as a public body, open to that much body, they're open to that much tntn— body, they're open to that much tntn t— body, they're open to that much more than a private landlord wettt— more than a private landlord wettt be,— more than a private landlord would be, for— more than a private landlord would be, for example, where it went— would be, for example, where it wetttlt— would be, for example, where it would-a civil— would be, for example, where it would-a civil case.- would be a civil case. but ttsetttety— would be a civil case. but absolutely discrimination is a big absolutely discrimination is a ttt-teettse— absolutely discrimination is a big because what we're not big thing because what we're not tettty— big thing because what we're not tettty seetnt— big thing because what we're not tettty seetnt ts— big thing because what we're not really seeing is that in reverse, the- really seeing is that in reverse, the amount of white tntttsn — reverse, the amount of white tntttsn yet— reverse, the amount of white english, you know, british born tnt— english, you know, british born tnt teet— english, you know, british born and bred that— english, you know, british born and bred that are— english, you know, british born and bred that are being discriminated against in exactly the discriminated against in exactly tne ste— discriminated against in exactly tne wty— discriminated against in exactly the same way, but— discriminated against in exactly the same way, but we're not seen— the same way, but we're not seetnt tntt— the same way, but we're not seeing that brought to the fore. ant— seeing that brought to the fore. ant-tettty— seeing that brought to the fore. ant-tettty tt— seeing that brought to the fore. and really it needs to and i think really it needs to be and i think really it needs to te t— and i think really it needs to te t-tttwn— and i think really it needs to be a-drawn in- and i think really it needs to be a drawn in the sand be a line drawn in the sand discrimination— be a line drawn in the sand discrimination is— be a line drawn in the sand discrimination is discrimination tetttttess— discrimination is discrimination tetttttess-yett- regardless of your your background— regardless of your your background and your ethnicity. wetn— background and your ethnicity. vetn too. — background and your ethnicity. yeah 100. and— background and your ethnicity. yeah 100. 't: ege " background and your ethnicity. yeah 100. 't: enge " background and your ethnicity. yeah 100. t: enge " yeah 100. and again, i mean, i would hope that the legal profession would throw their full heft behind discrimination against indigenous brits, as it were. but i reckon that's probably harder to prove and therefore maybe less lucrative .
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therefore maybe less lucrative. and therefore maybe they don't do it. there is i mean, a massive elephant in the room here though, which is just a fundamental lack of housing stock and i'm going stock generally. and i'm going to on shortly anyway to to come on shortly anyway to talk about the mortgage rates. i know there's of our know there's a lot of our viewers and listeners who this affects either directly or indirectly. and it is an absolute the absolute shock around the corner, apparently. so we'll keep bit separate. but keep that a bit separate. but i mean, instead mean, an option instead of having to prioritise brits would be to build a lot more social housing, wouldn't it ? yes, it housing, wouldn't it? yes, it would, absolutely.- housing, wouldn't it? yes, it would, absolutely. but- g 3" l 7 yes, it would, absolutely. but again , would, absolutely. but again, yee— would, absolutely. but again, ye tet— would, absolutely. but again, ye tet te— would, absolutely. but again, you've got to look at timelines tnt— you've got to look at timelines tnt yee— you've got to look at timelines tnt ye tet— you've got to look at timelines and you've got to— you've got to look at timelines and you've got to look at ttnttnt— and you've got to look at funding and— and you've got to look at funding and you've got look funding and you've got to look at infrastructure.— funding and you've got to look at infrastructure. i'm at infrastructure. so now i'm just— at infrastructure. so now i'm ttst tent— at infrastructure. so now i'm ttst tent-yet- at infrastructure. so now i'm just going you very just going to give you a very snttsnet— snapshot in history, and i ptentse— snapshot in history, and i ptentse t— snapshot in history, and i promise i will— snapshot in history, and i promise i will keep it short. no.— promise i will keep it short. n0, tettt— promise i will keep it short. no, patrick, the— promise i will keep it short. no, patrick, the 35 years after tne— no, patrick, the 35 years after tne seeent— no, patrick, the 35 years after the second world— no, patrick, the 35 years after the second world war is 4.4 ntttten— the second world war is 4.4 million social— the second world war is 4.4 million social houses were built wnen— million social houses were built wnen we— million social houses were built when we came into the early 80s. test— when we came into the early 80s. ttst unten— when we came into the early 80s. just under 95,000— when we came into the early 80s. just under 95,000 social homes tettt— just under 95,000 social homes were built when— just under 95,000 social homes were built when we moved into zone— were built when we moved into 20.8, tn,— were built when we moved into 20.8, tet, ts,— were built when we moved into 2018, 19, 18, 60,000. however as
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of 2018, 19, 18, 60,000. however as et 2022,— 2018, 19, 18, 60,000. however as et 2022, 2s— 2018, 19, 18, 60,000. however as of 2022, 23, 14,000,— 2018, 19, 18, 60,000. however as of 2022, 23, 14,000, social nemes— of 2022, 23, 14,000, social homes were built, 10,000 of tnese— homes were built, 10,000 of those funded— homes were built, 10,000 of those funded in— homes were built, 10,000 of those funded in london by city ntn.— those funded in london by city nttt. tne— those funded in london by city hall. the remaining 4300 odd were across the— hall. the remaining 4300 odd were across the rest of england. were— were across the rest of england. tnete te— were across the rest of england. tnete net— were across the rest of england. there are not enough houses tettt— there are not enough houses tetnt tettt— there are not enough houses tetnt ttttt .— there are not enough houses being built, but— there are not enough houses being built, but also we've had a being built, but also we've had t tet— being built, but also we've had t tet et— being built, but also we've had t tet et tnen— being built, but also we've had a lot of them being demolished teese— a lot of them being demolished because when— a lot of them being demolished because when they were enttnttty— because when they were originally built, they weren't neeesstnty— originally built, they weren't necessarily fit— originally built, they weren't necessarily fit for purpose. now we've also had— necessarily fit for purpose. now we've also had a— necessarily fit for purpose. now we've also had a lot that are sett— we've also had a lot that are sett en— we've also had a lot that are sold on when— we've also had a lot that are sold on when we— we've also had a lot that are sold on when we had maggie tnttenet— sold on when we had maggie thatcher allowing everybody in a eetnett— thatcher allowing everybody in a council house— thatcher allowing everybody in a council house to— thatcher allowing everybody in a council house to buy their eetnett— council house to buy their council home,— council house to buy their council home, that away an council home, that took away an twttt— council home, that took away an twttt tet— council home, that took away an twttt tet et— council home, that took away an awful lot of stock,— council home, that took away an awful lot of stock, which interestingly— awful lot of stock, which interestingly now most of those ntwe— interestingly now most of those ntwe teen— interestingly now most of those have been repurposed back into the have been repurposed back into tne—tettnl the private rented sector again tttttnt— the private rented sector again ttaking tt— the private rented sector again , ttttnt tt twty— the private rented sector again , taking it away from social netstnt. — , taking it away from social netstnt. se— , taking it away from social netstnt. se t— , taking it away from social housing. so a lot of these tntnts— housing. so a lot of these tntnts tntt— housing. so a lot of these things that are- housing. so a lot of these things that are happening now are things that are happening now tee—etteet- things that are happening now are—effect of- things that are happening now are effect of things are a knock on effect of things tntt— are a knock on effect of things tntt-ttett— are a knock on effect of things that-great idea- are a knock on effect of things that-great idea at- are a knock on effect of things that great idea at the that were a great idea at the tne— that were a great idea at the time without— that were a great idea at the time without vision of time without a real vision of wnete— time without a real vision of wnete-wts— time without a real vision of where-was going- time without a real vision of where was going to time without a real vision of where-was going to and where that was going to go. and tntt-s— where that was going to go. and tntt-s tn— where that was going to go. and that's an issue— where that was going to go. and that's an issue that— where that was going to go. and that's an issue that crops on that's an issue that crops up on this julie time and time this show. julie time and time again, which is a fundamental lack planning ahead and the lack of planning ahead and the mind boggles as to why people didn't it's all well didn't do that. it's all well and good having net migration in
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the hundreds of thousands. i mean, some people would argue that isn't anyway, but you're that isn't anyway, but if you're going if going going to do it, if you're going to at least have the to do it, then at least have the infrastructure order to do it, then at least have the inibetructure order to do it, then at least have the inibe ablelre order to do it, then at least have the inibe able to order to do it, then at least have the inibe able to cope order to do it, then at least have the inibe able to cope that'der to do it, then at least have the inibe able to cope that .er to do it, then at least have the inibe able to cope that . and to be able to cope for that. and we've not done that. and we could it coming mile off could see it coming a mile off and juue could see it coming a mile off and julie thank and we've not acted. julie thank you. enjoyed you. i've really enjoyed our chat. i'll chat chat. take care now i'll chat to you soon. ford there, you very soon. julie ford there, who's expert. i've who's the housing expert. i've just a couple just got time for, for a couple of . i won't name of quick emails. i won't name you on this one. i'm getting a lot of similar emails on this and do please keep them coming because i do my best try and because i do my best to try and read emails and it does read all the emails and it does mean a lot to me when people get in their personal in touch with their personal stories. of stories. and this is one of those here in gospel on the south coast, we've got ten families that we know of from afghanistan, afghanistan, easy for me to say, living in three bedroom flats, etcetera, etcetera etcetera. is etcetera, etcetera. this is where goes on to say there's where she goes on to say there's an eight year council waiting list says that she's list. she says that she's a single parent with an autistic child , a disabled daughter and child, a disabled daughter and doesn't think that she will ever reach the top of that list. so she's trapped paying to much
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money to the point of financial ruin, really , in order to try to ruin, really, in order to try to find a place to live and get on the private sector . and there's the private sector. and there's actually a shocking amount of these coming in. so thank you very much for that. in another one, says , look, british one, paula says, look, british nationals should be first in the line for housing and all public services. we've paid taxes and have earned our place at the top of the queue. that's from paul. loads of these coming in. continue please, continue with those, please, because i'll be returning to this throughout of this throughout the course of the show on a variety of different what's different angles on it. what's the veteran housing situation like? said, i'm like? and like i've said, i'm going just going to move this on, not just talk about housing, but i'm also going to be talking public going to be talking about public services in general, school places , dentist appointments, places, dentist appointments, nhs doctor appointments, etcetera. where can we get brits priority ? should brits get priority? should brits get priority? should brits get priority? i can't really understand why . certainly in understand why. certainly in post brexit britain we are allowing people in legal migrants who would still require social housing. that seems to me to be an obvious way of stopping
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that pressure on the social housing. if you want to come to this country and live here and reap the rewards of it, then should you not maybe be financially independent enough to our to not have to rely on our social when we social housing stock when we have a massive backlog? at have such a massive backlog? at the ? vaiews@gbnews.com the moment? vaiews@gbnews.com loads . are you getting in touch loads. are you getting in touch on that? this on our on that? more on this on our website gbnews.com is the website at gbnews.com is the fastest growing news fastest growing national news site in the country. got site in the country. it's got all the best analysis, big opinions and the latest breaking news. it's an eclectic show. this i am sticking, although taking a very different approach to housing. next because home owners are seeing their mortgages increase by thousands of pounds a year. how worried should we be? and i've got to be honest with you, at times like this, when it looks like something like our economy , like something like our economy, like our housing market has been managed don't managed so badly, i don't know about i always want to about you, but i always want to know blame. so try know who to blame. so i'll try and find out. patrick christys on britain's news
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gb news radio. well, in just a few gb news radio. well, in just a tew eneenents— gb news radio. well, in just a few moments time,— gb news radio. well, in just a few moments time, i- cit \ let: well, in just a few moments time, i will cit \ 3et: well, in just a few moments time, i will talk to you— few moments time, i will talk to yet ttett— few moments time, i will talk to yet ttett tne— few moments time, i will talk to you about the shocking figures tntt— you about the shocking figures tntt eett— you about the shocking figures that reveal more— you about the shocking figures that reveal more than a thousand tetettn— that reveal more than a thousand foreign criminals,— that reveal more than a thousand foreign criminals, including murderers , rapists, and murderers, rapists, and tenensts— murderers, rapists, and tenensts .— murderers, rapists, and terrorists , are on the run in terrorists, are on the run in tne— terrorists, are on the run in tne wt.— terrorists, are on the run in tne un- tnt— terrorists, are on the run in the uk. and by— terrorists, are on the run in the uk. and by the way, we're ettentnt— the uk. and by the way, we're catching less— the uk. and by the way, we're catching less of— the uk. and by the way, we're catching less of them. so there you— catching less of them. so there yet 90- — catching less of them. so there yet te. ant— catching less of them. so there you go. and there's an extraordinary- you go. and there's an extraordinary story of the tetenet— extraordinary story of the teacher who _ extraordinary story of the teacher who - a - extraordinary story of the- teacher who - a schoolgirl teacher who called a schoolgirl testtettte— teacher who called a schoolgirl despicable because she refused to despicable because she refused te teeett— despicable because she refused to accept classmate mate's to accept a classmate mate's etttn— to accept a classmate mate's etttn tntt— to accept a classmate mate's claim that she— to accept a classmate mate's claim that she identified as a ett. — claim that she identified as a ett. tne— claim that she identified as a cat. the world's— claim that she identified as a cat. the world's gone mad, the wettt-s— cat. the world's gone mad, the went-s tene— cat. the world's gone mad, the world's gone mad.— cat. the world's gone mad, the world's gone mad. but arguably more important,— world's gone mad. but arguably more important, prime minister ttsnt— more important, prime minister ttsnt stntt— more important, prime minister rishi sunak has— more important, prime minister rishi sunak has ruled out nenttte— rishi sunak has ruled out mortgage support in light of ttnnet— mortgage support in light of further expected interest rate tses— further expected interest rate tte— further expected interest rate tte te— further expected interest rate rises due to take— further expected interest rate rises due to take place this tnwstty. — rises due to take place this thursday. here— rises due to take place this thursday. here to run us through it, tt-s— thursday. here to run us through it, tt-s ett— thursday. here to run us through it, it's our economics and ttstness— it, it's our economics and business editor- it, it's our economics and business editor liam halligan. tnts— business editor liam halligan. tnts ty— business editor liam halligan. tnts ty tne— business editor liam halligan. this, by the way,— business editor liam halligan. this, by the way, is a brewing stety— this, by the way, is a brewing stety-wttt— this, by the way, is a brewing story .will kick- this, by the way, is a brewing story will kick right off story that will kick right off in story that will kick right off tn tne— story that will kick right off tn tne ttys— story that will kick right off in the days and— story that will kick right off in the days and weeks to come. nes— in the days and weeks to come. nes-tne— in the days and weeks to come. nes-tne tteney— in the days and weeks to come. nes-tne tteney .— in the days and weeks to come. he's-the money. - in the days and weeks to come. he's the money. "t; ”c: he's on the money. they're ettttnt— he's on the money. they're ettttnt tt— he's on the money. they're calling it a mortgage catastrophe, a potential home owner time bomb . as more and
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owner time bomb. as more and more people come off 5—3 and two year fixed rate mortgages as having to remortgage at much higher interest rates , those higher interest rates, those monthly mortgage payments are going up at an alarming rate . going up at an alarming rate. what is the basic problem? the bafic what is the basic problem? the basic problem here is that the uk is still an inflation nation , an inflation in this country. the cost of living is 8.7, up in april compared to april 2022, and many of us will be feeling much more inflation than that. that's more than four times the bank of england's 2% target. well what's the bank of england been doing about that? it's been raising interest rates 12 times in a row as this graph shows, all the way up from 0.1. those emergency rates during covid lockdown . but even before then, lockdown. but even before then, rates were very, very low, all the way up to 4.5. now on thursday, it may be that interest rates at the bank of england go up to 4.75, a quarter point rise , or even all the way point rise, or even all the way up to 5. and of course , that has
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up to 5. and of course, that has a big implication for your mortgage rates, particularly if you locked in a rate to 3 or 5 years ago when rates were much, much lower back in june 2021, the average sized mortgage over a two year period, the fixed rate for an average sized loan was 1.91. in february 2023, after inflation surged, it went all the way up to 5.7. and today , according to the website moneyfacts , the average two year moneyfacts, the average two year fixed rate deal is at 6.01. and every month, hundreds of thousands of households, their fixed rate deals are expiring and they're having to remortgage at these much , much higher rates at these much, much higher rates . so what does that mean in pounds and pence ? it means that pounds and pence? it means that average mortgage payment is going to go up from five £759 a month to £956 per month as households come off these fixed rates and have to remortgage.
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that's an increase on average . that's an increase on average. of £2,400 a year. a huge amount of money for any family. and that means that the pressure is rising on household finances average mortgage payments now have risen over the last year alone from 27% of post tax. household income on average to 33% of household income on average. and there's a lot more to come. that's why the polling company yougov is already suggesting that 30% of us on those polls, on those opinion surveys are already facing difficulties with our mortgages . look, home ownership, it's that the centre of the british psyche , many young people, they psyche, many young people, they will feel that this fall in house prices, which we're already seeing , could be a good already seeing, could be a good thing. it may help them getting on the housing ladder, but in middle england, if you like, where elections are won and lost , this causes grave problems for the conservatives when they ask at the next general election, do you feel better off than you
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were at the time when you elected us in 2019? for many home owners , the answer will be home owners, the answer will be no. there'll be questioning if the british housing market really is as safe as houses. yeah, well, liam halligan was exeettent— yeah, well, liam halligan was excellent there,— yeah, well, liam halligan was excellent there, i'm very ptetset— excellent there, i'm very ptetset te— excellent there, i'm very pleased to say- excellent there, i'm very pleased to say he's managed to get tten — pleased to say he's managed to get nen ttst— pleased to say he's managed to get from just over— pleased to say he's managed to get from just over there to just ever-yew— get from just over there to just over-very quickly.- get from just over there to just over very quickly. and the over here very quickly. and the nttte— over here very quickly. and the nttte et— over here very quickly. and the magic of television, magic over here very quickly. and the mttv. of television, magic over here very quickly. and the mttv. this. levision, magic over here very quickly. and the mttv. this. but;ion, magic over here very quickly. and the mttv. this. but;ion, a magic over here very quickly. and the mttv. this. but;ion, a cat,agic of tv. this. but like a cat, nte— of tv. this. but like a cat, ttte t— of tv. this. but like a cat, ttte tittst— of tv. this. but like a cat, like a last night. we'll like a cat last night. we'll. save—save-cat save that. we'll save the cat stety— save that. we'll save the cat stety-en. — save that. we'll save the cat stety-en. letsel save that. we'll save the cati story-on. .case you story for later on. in case you tne—wntt-s- story for later on. in case you. tee—wntt-s tetnt are just wondering what's going on, are just wondering what's going ent—ttentttyl are just wondering what's going ent—ttenttty tsi on, a child wants to identify as a on, a child wants to identify as t at,— on, a child wants to identify as t ett, tnt— on, a child wants to identify as tett, tnt tne— on, a child wants to identify as a cat, and the school yes. a cat, and the school said yes. etty— a cat, and the school said yes. ottylnenttte— a cat, and the school said yes. okay, mortgage arguably okay, so mortgage is arguablyi mete—ten more serious, though. look, i'm tettttwety— more serious, though. look, i'm tettttwety yetnt— more serious, though. look, i'm relatively young. i've been ttytnt— relatively young. i've been ttytnt tet— relatively young. i've been ttytnt tet t— relatively young. i've been trying for a long time to get on the trying for a long time to get on tne ptepetty— trying for a long time to get on the property ladder. i know a lot the property ladder. i know a tet et— the property ladder. i know a tet et peepte— the property ladder. i know a lot of people have, but i also knew— lot of people have, but i also knew-tet— lot of people have, but i also knew-tet et— lot of people have, but i also know lot of people know that a lot of people who ntwe—ne- know that a lot of people who| have _ me have have a bit older than me have got— have a bit older than me have tet-tne— have a bit older than me have tet-tne weteny— have a bit older than me have got the property ladder, took got on the property ladder, took out got on the property ladder, took ett—net— got on the property ladder, took out_not.overlyi out a mortgage, not an overly tnttttets— ambitious mortgage. they've wettest— worked very hard and they're teettnt— worked very hard and they're teettnt-ttte- worked very hard and they're looking-like this. worked very hard and they're looking like this now looking at stories like this now tnt— looking at stories like this now tnt tney-te— looking at stories like this now and they're thinking, am i able to and they're thinking, am i able teeter—— and they're thinking, am i able teewet— ny- and they're thinking, am i able to_over my head. and they're thinking, am i able to over my head in to have a roof over my head in yetts— to have a roof over my head in yetts te— to have a roof over my head in yetts te een-e— to have a roof over my head in years to come? how have we ended up years to come? how have we ended tee—wete- up in this situation? we've entet— up in this situation? we've entet up— up in this situation? we've ended up tn— up in this situation? we've ended up in this situation, etttn— ended up in this situation, patrick, because i think was patrick, because i think it was in patrick, because i think it was tn sttte— patrick, because i think it was in slide three— patrick, because i think it was
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in slide three there. tzirtzi; " in slide three there. here in my ttttte— in slide three there. here in my little video presentation, little video wall presentation, you saw those interest rate rises, interest rates were dead flat for years . and then just flat for years. and then just after the pandemic, as inflation took off. and then on top of that, the war in ukraine, the inflation was already at a 30 year high in 2022, year high in january 2022, before putin invaded in february 2022. we've had 12 successive interest rate rises . so we've interest rate rises. so we've literally gone from interest rates at the bank of england at 0.1% to 4.5. now almost certainly going to go up to 4.75, maybe then 5% in on thursday and then in the following weeks and many people, if they fixed for five years or three years or two years, you know, basically since 2018, all those fixed periods , rates were those fixed periods, rates were really, really low. so they're now going to come off those fixes and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of households coming households every month coming off fixes and then facing off those fixes and then facing mortgage rates that are obviously higher than the bank of england base rate because that's works. and the
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that's how it works. and the average mortgage rate now on a two year as of today, two year fix as of today, according to moneyfacts , is according to moneyfacts, is 6.01. so you've got people going, hundreds of thousands of them going from like two, 2.5% when interest rates were were much, much lower to 6. and that is a huge increase . is a huge increase. realistically, millions of peepte— realistically, millions of people aren't- realistically, millions of people aren't going to be able to people aren't going to be able te tttett— people aren't going to be able to afford that. _ people aren't going to be able to afford that. so— people aren't going to be able to afford that. so do we end up wttn— to afford that. so do we end up with millions— to afford that. so do we end up with millions of— to afford that. so do we end up with millions of people defaulting— with millions of people defaulting on their mortgages? i tntnt— defaulting on their mortgages? i tntnt-nttnen- defaulting on their mortgages? i think-happen is- defaulting on their mortgages? i think-happen is i- think what will happen is i wetttn-t— think what will happen is i wetttn-t- - think what will happen is i wouldn't- i'd- think what will happen is ij wouldn't- i'd say think what will happen is i- wouldn't- i'd say with wouldn't say that. i'd say with all that's a bit all respect, that's a bit alarmist this is going alarmist because this is going to be the first serious mortgage crisis in the age of social media right ? crisis in the age of social media right? so when people are being drummed out of their houses , when houses are being houses, when houses are being repossessed , you know, back in repossessed, you know, back in the day, that didn't really make the day, that didn't really make the it's going the newspapers. but it's going to filmed neighbours. to be filmed by neighbours. neighbours are going to rally around. people's instincts will kick much harder kick in. it's much, much harder for the mortgage companies to do that what's to that now. so what's going to happen? a of happen? i think a number of things to happen. things are going to happen. firstly, lenders are firstly, i think lenders are going with mortgage going to negotiate with mortgage holders who suddenly much, holders who suddenly face much, much mortgage rates that
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much higher mortgage rates that are practically unaffordable or they're going to say you're on a 25 year now, to a 35 25 year mortgage now, go to a 35 year even a 40 year year mortgage, even a 40 year mortgage to those payments mortgage to get those payments down people may say down and or people may say you're on a 25 year mortgage. it's a repayment mortgage. let's make it an interest only mortgage. so you're not paying down the loan. you're just paying down the loan. you're just paying interest for five paying the interest for five years. that get your years. again, that may get your payments some degree. i payments down to some degree. i think be taking in think people will be taking in lodgers. we're going lodgers. i think we're going to be to a lot the be returning to a lot of the kind of fashioned fashioned kind of old fashioned fashioned housing had housing practises that we had before with people doubling up in houses is because there is still a fundamental shortage of homes in the uk. i don't still a fundamental shortage of homes in the uk . i don't expect homes in the uk. i don't expect a house price crash . that's a huge house price crash. that's what i know a lot of what your generation want and i understand why. think there's why. well i don't think there's going big crash. do going to be a big crash. i do think there'll fall, think there'll be a fall, a slight fall, maybe ten, not slight fall, maybe ten, 15, not a crash, but i think an awful lot of people are going to struggle the coming months struggle over the coming months and years. and it's going to have massive political implications. have massive political impvery,)ns. have massive political impvery, very much. as ever. you very, very much. as ever. liam halligan,— e3 wig i as ever. liam halligan, economics you very, very much. as ever.- liam halligan,-economics and liam halligan, our economics and ttstness— liam halligan, our economics and ttstness ettten — liam halligan, our economics and business editor. believe that business editor. i believe that i
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business editor. i believe that t nttnt— business editor. i believe that t nttnt te— business editor. i believe that i might be able— business editor. i believe that i might be able to go to the netse— i might be able to go to the netse et— i might be able to go to the house of commons indeed, house of commons now. indeed, i een—etayetmah is- can wear suella braverman is ttttnt—en- can wear suella braverman is ttwtnt—en tne- can wear suella braverman is. giving-on the police's giving an update on the police's use giving an update on the police's tse-sten— giving an update on the police's tselsten tnt— giving an update on the police's use stop and search so suella use of stop and search so suella nttwetentn ts— use of stop and search so suella braverman is on the floor at the eneenent — braverman is on the floor at the eneenent t— braverman is on the floor at the moment. i believe— braverman is on the floor at the moment. i believe discussing stet— moment. i believe discussing step tnt— moment. i believe discussing stop and search.— moment. i believe discussing stop and search. now what ntppenet— stop and search. now what happened earlier on today? was it happened earlier on today? was tt stettt— happened earlier on today? was it suella braverman wrote to a tett — it suella braverman wrote to a tett et— it suella braverman wrote to a load of different— it suella braverman wrote to a load of different police boards tnt— load of different police boards tnt-tnt— load of different police boards tnt-tnt wettes- load of different police boards and and groups and was and bodies and groups and was stytnt— and bodies and groups and was stytnt .— and bodies and groups and was stytnt , teen— and bodies and groups and was stytnt , teet, t— and bodies and groups and was saying , look, i want you to saying, look, i want you to tnptenent— saying, look, i want you to implement stop- saying, look, i want you to implement stop and search more tntn— implement stop and search more tntn yet— implement stop and search more tntn yet te— implement stop and search more than you are doing.— implement stop and search more than you are doing. i want to ntwe— than you are doing. i want to have sense policing than you are doing. i want to. have-sense policing on have common sense policing on the have common sense policing on tne street— have common sense policing on the street that— have common sense policing on the street that is— have common sense policing on the street that is in— have common sense policing on the street that is in response to the street that is in response te entsstwe— the street that is in response to massive -of- the street that is in response to massive of knife to massive amounts of knife crime,-amounts- to massive amounts of knife crime, amounts of to massive amounts of knife- crime,-amounts of drug crime, massive amounts of drug ant— crime, massive amounts of drug ant wntt— crime, massive amounts of drug use. and what she's really been stytnt— use. and what she's really been stytnt ts— use. and what she's really been stytnt ts, tettet— use. and what she's really been saying is, forget this idea that step— saying is, forget this idea that step tnt— saying is, forget this idea that stop and search— saying is, forget this idea that stop and search is racist. tettet— stop and search is racist. tettet-ttet- stop and search is racist. forget idea that stop and forget the idea that stop and seten— forget the idea that stop and seten ts— forget the idea that stop and seten ts t— forget the idea that stop and search is a bad— forget the idea that stop and search is a bad oppressor thing tnt— search is a bad oppressor thing tnt te— search is a bad oppressor thing tnt te tt— search is a bad oppressor thing and do it because— search is a bad oppressor thing and do it because that's the way tntt— and do it because that's the way tntt we— and do it because that's the way tntt we etn— and do it because that's the way tntt we tet— and do it because that's the way that we can get knives off the street — that we can get knives off the street t— that we can get knives off the street. i take— that we can get knives off the street. i take you— that we can get knives off the street. i take you to this now nttnty— street. i take you to this now mainly because— street. i take you to this now mainly because going be mainly because i'm going to be tetttntnt— mainly because i'm going to be tetttntnt-t— mainly because i'm going to be returning-a bit- mainly because i'm going to be returning a bit and returning to it in a bit and i'm going— returning to it in a bit and i'm petntlte— returning to it in a bit and i'm petntlte-t— returning to it in a bit and i'm tetntlte-t ttst- returning to it in a bit and i'm going be i just wanted going to be having i just wanted to going to be having i just wanted te-tt— going to be having i just wanted te-tt en— going to be having i just wanted to - it on l little _ going to be having i just wanted to-it onllittle bit,- going to be having i just wanted to it on little bit, just to move it on a little bit, just tt— to move it on a little bit, just tt en— to move it on a little bit, just tt en t— to move it on a little bit, just move it on a little— to move it on a little bit, just move it on a little bit and talk ttett— move it on a little bit and talk ttett wny— move it on a little bit and talk ttett wny te— move it on a little bit and talk about why are we— move it on a little bit and talk about why are we actually in tnts—ts- about why are we actually in tnts—ts tt- about why are we actually in this—is it bad. this situation. so is it bad pttenttnte— this situation. so is it bad parenting? 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parenting? okay, so is it the fault of parents absent parents, pttents— fault of parents absent parents, pttents wne— fault of parents absent parents, parents who are— fault of parents absent parents, parents who are maybe working tetts— parents who are maybe working tetts et— parents who are maybe working tetts et tets— parents who are maybe working loads of jobs and— parents who are maybe working loads of jobs and aren't there or loads of jobs and aren't there et ttst— loads of jobs and aren't there et ttst tett— loads of jobs and aren't there orjust bad parents for the or just bad parents for the wny— or just bad parents for the reason why we _ or just bad parents for the reason why we have a lot of young— reason why we have a lot of yetnp peys— reason why we have a lot of yetnp peys. tt-s— reason why we have a lot of young boys. it's mostly boys on the young boys. it's mostly boys on tne streets— young boys. it's mostly boys on the streets carrying knives in gan95-_ the streets carrying knives in ptnts. t— the streets carrying knives in ptnts. t ttse— the streets carrying knives in gangs. i also want to look at tne— gangs. i also want to look at tne tttttes— gangs. i also want to look at the figures behind the ethnic ttetttewn— the figures behind the ethnic breakdown of— the figures behind the ethnic breakdown of the ethnic breakdown _ breakdown of the ethnic breakdown of- breakdown of the ethnic breakdown of people who are tnwewet— breakdown of people who are tnwewet tn— breakdown of people who are involved in knife— breakdown of people who are involved in knife crime and gang ant— involved in knife crime and gang crime. and that,— involved in knife crime and gang crime. and that, i— involved in knife crime and gang crime. and that, i think, shed tent— crime. and that, i think, shed tttnt en— crime. and that, i think, shed some light on the fact that tnetetset— some light on the fact that increased stop— some light on the fact that increased stop and search will not increased stop and search will net tettttty— increased stop and search will not actually be— increased stop and search will not actually be considered as ttetst. — not actually be considered as ttetst. ett— not actually be considered as racist. but more— not actually be considered as racist. but more on that very, very— racist. but more on that very, very snettty.— racist. but more on that very, very shortly. loads still very shortly. loads more still to very shortly. loads more still te—new- very shortly. loads more still te—new tntl very shortly. loads more stilli to_now and the very shortly. loads more still- to_now and the end to come between now and the end of to come between now and the end et tnts— to come between now and the end et tnts nett— to come between now and the end et tnts nett ts— to come between now and the end of this hour as it— to come between now and the end of this hour as it emerges that -10,000 — of this hour as it emerges that more 10,000 migrants have more than 10,000 migrants have eeset— more than 10,000 migrants have crossed .channel_ more than 10,000 migrants have crossed channel this year. crossed the channel this year. so crossed the channel this year. se w-wee— crossed the channel this year. se ntt— crossed the channel this year. so we've hit the _ crossed the channel this year. so we've hit the 10,000 mark. we wttt— so we've hit the 10,000 mark. we wttt ttsetss— so we've hit the 10,000 mark. we will discuss the _ so we've hit the 10,000 mark. we will discuss the news that more tntn—tetettn- than a thousand foreign criminals,— than a thousand foreign criminals, including murderers , criminals, including murderers, ttptsts— criminals, including murderers, rapists, terrorists— criminals, including murderers, rapists, terrorists ,_ criminals, including murderers, rapists, terrorists , are on the rapists, terrorists, are on the ant— rapists, terrorists, are on the run. and find— rapists, terrorists, are on the run. and find out- rapists, terrorists, are on the run. and find out why rishi stntt— run. and find out why rishi stntt ts— run. and find out why rishi sunak is spearheading a major pettey— sunak is spearheading a major pettey entnte— sunak is spearheading a major policy change that will affect the policy change that will affect tne wty— policy change that will affect tne wty tntt— policy change that will affect the way that schools deal with the way that schools deal with tne-et— the way that schools deal with tne-et gentee— the way that schools deal with the of gender identity. the issue of gender identity. ett— the issue of gender identity. ntt-new— the issue of gender identity. ntt-new tt-s- the issue of gender identity. but now, it's polly with but right now, it's polly with yet— but right now, it's polly with your headlines— but right now, it's polly with
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ruled out any extra governmental assistance for households struggling with payments . let's struggling with payments. let's just bring you a little breaking news that we're receiving from the coast guard. heard the us coast guard. we've heard that are coordinating a that they are coordinating a search for a missing vessel. they're telling gb news they're unable to confirm any further details at this stage. but it does follow a report that a submerged cable taking tourists out to the site of the titanic wreckage had gone missing. so that coming to us from the us coastguard. more on that as we get it in other headlines today, police have broken up an albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants into the uk on small boats. three members of the crime group were arrested early this morning by officers from the national crime agency . from the national crime agency. gb news understands the group has been charging migrants more than £7,000. a journey and the arrests come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants have crossed the channel in small boats since the channel in small boats since the start of this year. and a
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man has pleaded guilty to wearing an offensive shirt about the hillsborough disaster to the fa cup final . 33 year old james fa cup final. 33 year old james white has been fined £1,000 and is banned from attending any regulated football matches for four years. he wore the shirt at wembley stadium, displaying an offensive comment about the disaster where 97 fans lost their lives as a result of a crush at a match between liverpool and nottingham forest in 1989. more on all those stories by heading to our website at gb news .com . die website at gb news .com. die direct bullion sponsors the financial report on gb news for gold and silver investment . and gold and silver investment. and a quick snapshot of today's markets for you. the pound buying a 1.27, eight, $6 and ,1.1715. the price of gold.
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£1,526.12 an ounce. the ftse 100 is at 7594 points right now . is at 7594 points right now. direct bullion sponsors the ttntnee— direct bullion sponsors the finance report— direct bullion sponsors the finance report on for gb news tett— finance report on for gb news tett tnt— finance report on for gb news gold and silver— finance report on for gb news gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. wett— gold and silver investment. wet, w-wee— gold and silver investment. well, we've hit— gold and silver investment. well, we've hit another undesirable— well, we've hit another undesirable milestone, haven't we? — undesirable milestone, haven't we? as— undesirable milestone, haven't we? as mete— undesirable milestone, haven't we? as more than— undesirable milestone, haven't we? �*0 000 undesirable milestone, haven't we? e“ 0 000 g we? as more than 10,000 migrants have crossed the channel in small boats this year. viewers on gb news can see some of the asylum seekers who arrived in dover over the weekend. there we go . the landmark figure was go. the landmark figure was reached as it emerged that more than a thousand foreign criminals are currently on the run in the uk. they include murderers, rapists , terrorists murderers, rapists, terrorists and. while one man went into hiding on the day he was due to be sentenced in 2008 and hasn't been seen since . interestingly, been seen since. interestingly, he was found guilty and they
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said, yeah, we'll bail you and he's just disappeared. could be anywhere. good stuff. let's get the thoughts now of former met detective peter bleksley on this story. peter, thank you very, very much . it's great to have very much. it's great to have you on the show. i have got some figures here. so there are up to five terrorists, rapists, five terrorists, 11 rapists, several and 13 other sex offenders on the run at the moment in this country who came from other countries is in fact, if you look at the entire prison population around 10% of that population, the people who we've actually managed to contain within a prison are foreign nationals. we have imported quite a lot of our criminal problems , have we not? yes, we problems, have we not? yes, we have. and that , of— problems, have we not? yes, we have. and that , of course,- have. and that, of course, tnnts— have. and that, of course, tnnts ntpe— have. and that, of course, brings huge problems for police epettttnt— brings huge problems for police epettttnt tn— brings huge problems for police operating in this— brings huge problems for police operating in this day and age wnen— operating in this day and age wnen t— operating in this day and age wnen t wts— operating in this day and age when i was pounding the beat and wetttnt— when i was pounding the beat and wetttnt ts— when i was pounding the beat and wetttnt ts t— when i was pounding the beat and working as a detective, we by tnt— working as a detective, we by tnt tttte— working as a detective, we by and large knew— working as a detective, we by and large knew who the criminals were. our borders— and large knew who the criminals were. our borders were not pets— were. our borders were not pets .— were. our borders were not peets . ett— were. our borders were not porous . our migration was porous. our migration was eneetet— porous. our migration was checked and— porous. our migration was
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checked and consequently we had newente— checked and consequently we had nowhere near the— checked and consequently we had nowhere near the numbers of tetettn— nowhere near the numbers of foreign criminals— nowhere near the numbers of foreign criminals marauding the streets— foreign criminals marauding the streets, committing crime, mtttettnt— streets, committing crime, murdering people and otherwise mtttnt— murdering people and otherwise mtttnt tne— murdering people and otherwise making the country be a less stte— making the country be a less stte pttee— making the country be a less stte pttee .— making the country be a less safe place . so— making the country be a less safe place . so a— making the country be a less safe place . so a degree of safe place. so a degree of sympttny— safe place. so a degree of sympathy for_ safe place. so a degree of sympathy for the police over all of sympathy for the police over all et tnts— sympathy for the police over all et tnts ,— sympathy for the police over all et tnts , ptt— sympathy for the police over all et tnts , ttt t— sympathy for the police over all of this , but a huge degree of of this, but a huge degree of concern that— of this, but a huge degree of concern that so— of this, but a huge degree of concern that so many wrong'uns are concern that so many wrong'uns ett— concern that so many wrong'uns ett mete— concern that so many wrong'uns are out there amongst us. “415?" are out there amongst us. yeah, tnteet— are out there amongst us. yeah, tnteet. we— are out there amongst us. yeah, indeed, we have— are out there amongst us. yeah, indeed, we have 19% more for foreign nationals, criminals at large now than we did in 2019. how easy is it to go on the run bearin how easy is it to go on the run bear in mind, i'm talking to the man who was on the old program, hunted. so how easy is it to go on run ? well if you've got on the run? well if you've got the support that you require because any fugitive needs help, support someone to put a roof over their head , wash their over their head, wash their clothes, feed them and transport them if need be. if you have a stppen— them if need be. if you have a support network— them if need be. if you have a support network like- �*" : if you have a support network like that , then support network like that, then it support network like that, then tt ts— support network like that, then tt ts ttn— support network like that, then tt ts ttn ttt— support network like that, then it is far, far easier— support network like that, then it is far, far easier for a lone ttttttwe— it is far, far easier for a lone ttttttwe wne — it is far, far easier for a lone fugitive who might want to
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ttstppett— fugitive who might want to ttstppett tn— fugitive who might want to disappear in the woods, into the west— disappear in the woods, into the eets tet— disappear in the woods, into the woods, for example. ' t: disappear in the woods, into the woods, for example. ' et: disappear in the woods, into the woods, for example. et: woods, for example. and now, of course, because we have foreign criminal community as established in the uk and we know all about the albanians gang, for example , who came from gang, for example, who came from albania and many other communities who are willing to harbour fugitives. this makes it much more difficult for law enforcement to locate them, kick their doors in and slap the handcuffs on. yeah indeed. and you mentioned, i think- handcuffs on. yeah indeed. and you mentioned, i think ,- :i tste / e 3: and you mentioned, i think , alluding you mentioned, i think, alluding tettty— you mentioned, i think, alluding tettty te— you mentioned, i think, alluding tettty te twe— you mentioned, i think, alluding really to two largely drug gangs mete.— really to two largely drug gangs tnete. tn— really to two largely drug gangs there. in fact,— really to two largely drug gangs there. in fact, the— really to two largely drug gangs there. in fact, the largest ptepettten— there. in fact, the largest ptepettten et— there. in fact, the largest proportion of missing fugitives, 352 et— proportion of missing fugitives, 352 et tnem— proportion of missing fugitives, 352 of them are— proportion of missing fugitives, 352 of them are drug offenders, tnettttnt— 352 of them are drug offenders, including gangsters, suspected of including gangsters, suspected et smtttttnt— including gangsters, suspected of smuggling huge quantities of tnt— of smuggling huge quantities of cocaine and heroin into the eetntty— cocaine and heroin into the eetntty .— cocaine and heroin into the eetntty . tnt— cocaine and heroin into the country . and when these people country. and when these people are country. and when these people tnestet— country. and when these people are arrested and— country. and when these people are arrested and charged, kltt , are arrested and charged, kltt, etettty— are arrested and charged, kltt, etettty wete— are arrested and charged, kltt, clearly we're putting them out on clearly we're putting them out en tttt. — clearly we're putting them out en tttt. t— clearly we're putting them out on bail. a lot.— clearly we're putting them out on bail. a lot. and then clearly tney— on bail. a lot. and then clearly tney ttst— on bail. a lot. and then clearly tney ttst tet— on bail. a lot. and then clearly they just go, well,— on bail. a lot. and then clearly they just go, well, that's all tttnt. — they just go, well, that's all ntnt. t-tt— they just go, well, that's all ntnt. t-ttttst— they just go, well, that's all right. i'll just go back in with the right. i'll just go back in with tne tett— right. i'll just go back in with tne tttt ttnt— right. i'll just go back in with the drug gang that i was working wttn— the drug gang that i was working wttn tetete— the drug gang that i was working with before. and— the drug gang that i was working with before. and i'll just go mtsstnt— with before. and i'll just go mtsstnt tnt— with before. and i'll just go missing and back. the fact that
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you— missing and back. the fact that yet wen-t— missing and back. the fact that yet wen-t ttnt— missing and back. the fact that you won't find me— missing and back. the fact that you won't find me and they're tent— you won't find me and they're tttnt-tntt— you won't find me and they're right-that, aren't- you won't find me and they're right that, aren't they? right about that, aren't they? wetn— right about that, aren't they? vetn — right about that, aren't they? vetn tt-s— right about that, aren't they? yeah it's far— right about that, aren't they? yeah it's far too— right about that, aren't they? yeah e yeah it's far too many people are being granted bail at various stages of an investigation . and this is, by investigation. and this is, by and large , because the crown and large, because the crown prosecution service want all the evidence in front of them before they will make a decision to charge somebody. and quite stmpty— charge somebody. and quite stmpty ,— charge somebody. and quite stmpty , tnete— charge somebody. and quite simply , there are— i g : and quite simply , there are pressures on simply, there are pressures on pettee— simply, there are pressures on pettee tn— simply, there are pressures on pettee tn terms— simply, there are pressures on police in terms of— simply, there are pressures on police in terms of numbers of ettteets— police in terms of numbers of officers available— police in terms of numbers of officers available and hours in the officers available and hours in tne tty— officers available and hours in tne tty ,— officers available and hours in the day , which— officers available and hours in the day , which mean that they the day, which mean that they etn-t— the day, which mean that they etn-t tet— the day, which mean that they etn-t tet ttt— the day, which mean that they can't get all those enquiries tone,— can't get all those enquiries tene, ttt— can't get all those enquiries done, all the— can't get all those enquiries done, all the statements taken, all done, all the statements taken, ttt tne— done, all the statements taken, all the forensics— done, all the statements taken, all the forensics carried out tnt— all the forensics carried out tnt tet— all the forensics carried out tnt tet tne— all the forensics carried out and get the evidence in front of the and get the evidence in front of tne ets— and get the evidence in front of tne ets tn— and get the evidence in front of tne ets tn t— and get the evidence in front of the cps in a timely fashion. so far, the cps in a timely fashion. so ttn tee— the cps in a timely fashion. so ttn tee mtny— the cps in a timely fashion. so far, too many people- the cps in a timely fashion. so far, too many people are- the cps in a timely fashion. so far, too many people are being granted bail under investigation and after they've been charged . and after they've been charged. and we really need to have a long, hard look at this and see what can be done to improve the situation. we what can be done to improve the situation . we cannot be far away situation. we cannot be far away nem— situation. we cannot be far away ttem tne— situation. we cannot be far away from the absolute— tste we cannot be far away from the absolute nightmare scenario , peter,— from the absolute nightmare scenario , peter, where we end up scenario, peter, where we end up seetnt— scenario, peter, where we end up seetnt seme— scenario, peter, where we end up seetnt et— scenario, peter, where we end up seeing some of these, murderer
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tnt— seeing some of these, murderer tnt tenensts— seeing some of these, murderer and terrorists and— seeing some of these, murderer and terrorists and rapist s who are and terrorists and rapist s who en tne— and terrorists and rapist s who are on the run— and terrorists and rapist s who are on the run in— and terrorists and rapist s who are on the run in britain by tettnttten— are on the run in britain by definition with— are on the run in britain by definition with nothing to lose if definition with nothing to lose tt tney— definition with nothing to lose tt tney etn-t— definition with nothing to lose if they can't get— definition with nothing to lose if they can't get out of the eetntty— if they can't get out of the eetntty tet— if they can't get out of the country for whatever reason, tney— country for whatever reason, tney — country for whatever reason, they are trapped— country for whatever reason, they are trapped in here. they etn-t— they are trapped in here. they can't ever really— they are trapped in here. they can't ever really put their head ttewe— can't ever really put their head ttewe tne— can't ever really put their head above the parapet— can't ever really put their head above the parapet too much . you above the parapet too much. you wettt— above the parapet too much. you wettt-tney— above the parapet too much. you would-they would- would hope that they would get ntetet— nicked again and then probably get nicked again and then probably tet-sentenee. - nicked again and then probably get sentence. they get a heavier sentence. so they are get a heavier sentence. so they ttttttty— get a heavier sentence. so they ttttttty tt— get a heavier sentence. so they are arguably at their most ttntetets— are arguably at their most dangerous at— are arguably at their most dangerous at particular dangerous at that particular mement— dangerous at that particular moment-time.— dangerous at that particular moment-time. i- dangerous at that particular moment time. i i really do moment in time. i i really do net— moment in time. i i really do net wtnt— moment in time. i i really do net wtnt te— moment in time. i i really do not want to be _ moment in time. i i really do not want to be sitting here one day— not want to be sitting here one tty ntwnt— not want to be sitting here one tty ntwnt t— not want to be sitting here one day having a chat— not want to be sitting here one day having a chat with you about one day having a chat with you about et— day having a chat with you about et tnese— day having a chat with you about one of these people doing semetntnt— one of these people doing something absolutely disgusting and something absolutely disgusting tnttemttte— something absolutely disgusting and terrible and— something absolutely disgusting and terrible and blowing semetntnt— and terrible and blowing something up at some point. but i something up at some point. but tltetn— something up at some point. but tltetn teten— something up at some point. but i.fear, peter, that— something up at some point. but i.fear, peter, that it- something up at some point. but i fear, peter, that it is i do fear, peter, that it is a mtttet— i do fear, peter, that it is a mtttet et— i do fear, peter, that it is a matter of time— i do fear, peter, that it is a matter of time .- i do fear, peter, that it is a matter of time . well, i don't matter of time. well, i don't ntwe— matter of time. well, i don't ntwe t— matter of time. well, i don't have a crystal— matter of time. well, i don't have a crystal ball, but tespettte— have a crystal ball, but desperate people do. have a crystal ball, but- desperate people do. desperate tttnts. tnt— desperate people do. desperate things. and the— desperate people do. t eget and the criminal history things. and the criminal history teets— things. and the criminal history teets te— things. and the criminal history books are littered— eg5 and the criminal history books are littered with examples of books are littered with examples et tntt. — books are littered with examples et tntt. wntt— books are littered with examples of that. what clearly must ntppen— of that. what clearly must ntppen ts— of that. what clearly must happen is that— of that. what clearly must happen is that with regards to the happen is that with regards to tne ttettet— happen is that with regards to the broader picture about mtttttten— the broader picture about migration and— the broader picture about migration and borders, there neets— migration and borders, there neets te— migration and borders, there neets te te— migration and borders, there needs to be a— migration and borders, there needs to be a lot of work done on needs to be a lot of work done en tntt— needs to be a lot of work done on that because— needs to be a lot of work done on that because it— needs to be a lot of work done on that because it is simply not nenn — on that because it is simply not nenn ettt—
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on that because it is simply not henri paul tenable— on that because it is simply not henri paul tenable for any ttttsntp— henri paul tenable for any flagship democracy to know who is flagship democracy to know who ts eemtnt— flagship democracy to know who ts eemtnt tnte— flagship democracy to know who is coming into the— flagship democracy to know who is coming into the country and wntt— is coming into the country and wntt tnet— is coming into the country and what their background is and wntt— what their background is and wntt tnet— what their background is and what their intentions and tmtttten— what their intentions and ambition are.— what their intentions and ambition are. and that's of course, should— ambition are. and that's of course, should be how the system wetts— course, should be how the system wetts tnt— course, should be how the system works. and sadly— course, should be how the system works. and sadly ,— course, should be how the system works. and sadly , it's not works. and sadly, it's not epettttnt— works. and sadly, it's not operating like _ works. and sadly, it's not operating like that at the mement — operating like that at the moment. another very important petnt— moment. another very important petnt ts— moment. another very important petnt ts tntt— moment. another very important point is that we— moment. another very important point is that we must support pettee— point is that we must support our police and— point is that we must support our police and the national enme— our police and the national enme ateney— our police and the national crime agency in— our police and the national crime agency in their work to keep— crime agency in their work to keep me— crime agency in their work to keep fire arms— crime agency in their work to keep fire arms off the streets . keep fire arms off the streets. teeent— keep fire arms off the streets. recent horrors— keep fire arms off the streets. recent horrors could have been mttttpttet— recent horrors could have been multiplied and— recent horrors could have been multiplied and as— recent horrors could have been multiplied and as ghastly and as etttsttepnte— multiplied and as ghastly and as catastrophic as— multiplied and as ghastly and as catastrophic as they were could ntwe— catastrophic as they were could ntwe teen— catastrophic as they were could have been even— catastrophic as they were could have been even more dreadful . if have been even more dreadful. if peepte— have been even more dreadful. if peepte ntwe— have been even more dreadful. if peepte ntwe etsy— have been even more dreadful. if people have easy access to teetems— people have easy access to firearms, we've— people have easy access to firearms, we've seen what ntppens— firearms, we've seen what ntppens wnen— firearms, we've seen what happens when people get teetems— happens when people get firearms. if— happens when people get firearms. if you know anything ttett— firearms. if you know anything ttett tnytety— firearms. if you know anything about anybody with a gun, then tneee— about anybody with a gun, then tneee ts— about anybody with a gun, then tneee ts t— about anybody with a gun, then there is a public— about anybody with a gun, then there is a public duty to pick up there is a public duty to pick tp tne— there is a public duty to pick tp tne pnene— there is a public duty to pick up the phone and do the right tntnt— up the phone and do the right tntnt . — up the phone and do the right tntnt . ts— up the phone and do the right thing . is that— up the phone and do the right thing . g eg up the phone and do the right thing . g etg 7 thing. is that getting worse? peter, i'm going to talk very shortly anyway about suella braverman comments about stop
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and search how we need to be and search and how we need to be doing of and how it doing more of that and how it isn't really racist. it's just safety to be mainly safety that tends to be mainly around knife crime. really is the gun situation getting worse because we do not have a massive culture in this country of gun carrying? i know there's always been a bit of that going around, but we've not got this massive culture of it and how has that started more now and is that being led by foreign gangs? et cetera. firearms being led by foreign gangs? et cetera . firearms are a priority cetera. firearms are a priority for cetera. firearms are a priority tee tne— cetera. firearms are a priority for the national— ti.ts;ets;e firearms are a priority for the national crime agency tnt— for the national crime agency tnt tney— for the national crime agency tnt tney mtst— for the national crime agency and they must remain so. eetmtntts— and they must remain so. criminals, particularly in the meet— criminals, particularly in the tttettt tetts— criminals, particularly in the illegal drugs industry, use wetenee— illegal drugs industry, use violence as— illegal drugs industry, use violence as their currency and of course, often— violence as their currency and of course, often to _ violence as their currency and of course, often to enforce weeneet— of course, often to enforce weeneet yet— of course, often to enforce violence, you need a firearm to do violence, you need a firearm to te ttt— violence, you need a firearm to te tntt, te— violence, you need a firearm to do that, to keep— violence, you need a firearm to do that, to keep the threat tewet— do that, to keep the threat tewet nten— do that, to keep the threat level high, to— do that, to keep the threat level high, to make people do wntt— level high, to make people do wntt yet— level high, to make people do wntt yet wtnt— level high, to make people do what you want them to do, to step — what you want them to do, to step tnem — what you want them to do, to stop them coming on to your ptten— stop them coming on to your ptten ,— stop them coming on to your ptten , te— stop them coming on to your patch , to steal— stop them coming on to your patch , to steal your business, patch, to steal your business, to patch, to steal your business, te stett— patch, to steal your business, te stett yete— patch, to steal your business, to steal your drugs and your eneney — to steal your drugs and your eneney se— to steal your drugs and your eneney se et— to steal your drugs and your money. so of course, criminals teeewee teytnt— money. so of course, criminals are forever trying to source tnem. — are forever trying to source tnem. tnee— are forever trying to source them. there has- are forever trying to source them. there has to be massive etteets— them. there has to be massive etteets ty— them. there has to be massive etteets ty ttw— them. there has to be massive efforts by law enforcement
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tne— efforts by law enforcement across the board to ensure that we keep— across the board to ensure that we keep tne — across the board to ensure that we keep the levels of weapons tmentst— we keep the levels of weapons tmentst tne— we keep the levels of weapons amongst the criminal gangs as low amongst the criminal gangs as tew ts— amongst the criminal gangs as tew ts we— amongst the criminal gangs as low as we possibly can. look, teten— low as we possibly can. look, teten tntnt— low as we possibly can. look, peter, thank you very , very peter, thank you very, very much. the former met detective peter bleksley . as far as i'm peter bleksley. as far as i'm concerned, i don't understand why if someone who is a foreign national to this country national comes to this country and commits a violent, horrific act while they aren't on the first plane out of here, i just don't get that. why on earth are we importing of our prison we importing 10% of our prison population has come to this country from another country, and that's not by the way, including those that are on the run. that would make it around 12% of our entire prison population to this population have come to this country another country. country from another country. but that'll but another story that'll get you a teacher has said a you going, a teacher has said a 13 year old is despicable , not 13 year old is despicable, not because didn't do her because she didn't do her homework she beat up homework or because she beat up a pupil. no, because a fellow pupil. no, because the girl believe that a girl refused to believe that a classmate identified as a cat. what is the world coming to patrick christys? or should that be patrick christys on gb news, britain's news
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en en— speech nation sunday nights from seven on gb news— speech nation sunday nights from seven on gb news britain . p seven on gb news britain. at teee.— seven on gb news britain. at teee. t— seven on gb news britain. at teee. t wttt— seven on gb news britain. at 4:00, i will be— seven on gb news britain. at 4:00, i will be discussing the plans to give british people priority over migrants when it comes to council housing and frankly, other things as well. but it looks like rishi sunak will not be voting after a debate on whether boris johnson deliberately misled parliament. sunak has been meeting the swedish minister. oh, here we go . ulf christensen in downing street earlier number 10 said that his schedule today doesn't include attending parliament and that he has commitments he can't move. so there you go . so rishi move. so there you go. so rishi sunak, you know , rather slyly is sunak, you know, rather slyly is obviously not going to be attending this vote. so there we go. that's that news. but let's bnng go. that's that news. but let's bring you a couple of stories involving controversial involving the controversial topic and children topic of schools and children who change their gender identity. so rishi sunak is bringing in a new policy that means that will be means that schools will be forced tell parents if forced to tell parents if students are questioning their gender under new government
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guidance to be published this week . that's great. news week. that's great. the news comes that it emerged comes on the day that it emerged that had branded a 13 that a teacher had branded a 13 year girl despicable because year old girl despicable because she refused to accept that a classmate it identified as a cat. here is the fallout from that incident. we've got some leaked audio for you . i'll tell leaked audio for you. i'll tell you, it's just really- : e.t: i'll tell you, it's just really upset someone . saying things like someone. saying things like snettt— someone. saying things like snettt te— someone. saying things like should be in— someone. saying things like should be in an— someone. saying things like should be in an asylum should if tney— should be in an asylum should if tney wtnt— should be in an asylum should if tney wtnt te— should be in an asylum should if they want to identify how semetntnt. — they want to identify how something, then they're like tenttnety— something, then they're like genuinely unwell and they've tene— genuinely unwell and they've tene .— genuinely unwell and they've tene . wetn— genuinely unwell and they've gone . yeah, that's crazy . you gone. yeah, that's crazy. you tetstttn— gone. yeah, that's crazy. you kristian niemietz there have teen.— kristian niemietz there have been on.— kristian niemietz there have been on. tt— kristian niemietz there have been. oh, it wasn't a question i ttst— been. oh, it wasn't a question i ttst stytnt— been. oh, it wasn't a question i was just saying about the gender of was just saying about the gender et gentee— was just saying about the gender of gender. there— was just saying about the gender of gender. there are lots of tentees— of gender. there are lots of tentees .— of gender. there are lots of genders . there— of gender. there are lots of genders . there is trend of gender. there are lots of genders. there is trend in that tneee— genders. there is trend in that tneee ts— genders. there is trend in that tneee ts t— genders. there is trend in that there is a gender.— genders. there is trend in that there is a gender. people that ten-t— there is a gender. people that don't believe— there is a gender. people that don't believe they have a gender at don't believe they have a gender tt ttt— don't believe they have a gender tt ttt. wnten— don't believe they have a gender tt ttt. wnten t— don't believe they have a gender at all, which i a— don't believe they have a gender at all, which i a year ago . at all, which i a year ago. stttnt— at all, which i a year ago. sabina nessa— at all, which i a year ago. sabina nessa boy yeah, but since tentee— sabina nessa boy yeah, but since tentee ts— sabina nessa boy yeah, but since tentee ts net— sabina nessa boy yeah, but since gender is not necessarily the way— gender is not necessarily the wty te— gender is not necessarily the wty te te— gender is not necessarily the wty te te. tt— gender is not necessarily the way to be, if you— gender is not necessarily the way to be, if you are talking ttett— way to be, if you are talking ttett tne— way to be, if you are talking about the fact— way to be, if you are talking about the fact that cisgender is the about the fact that cisgender is tne — about the fact that cisgender is
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tne ttt— about the fact that cisgender is the norm but you— about the fact that cisgender is the norm but you identify with the norm but you identify with tne tentee— the norm but you identify with the gender that— the norm but you identify with the gender that with the sexual eettns— the gender that with the sexual ettns tntt— the gender that with the sexual organs that you're— the gender that with the sexual organs that you're born with yet— organs that you're born with yete wttn— organs that you're born with your with, that's— organs that you're born with your with, that's basically what yet-ee— your with, that's basically what yete stytnt— your with, that's basically what you're saying. yeah. which is eettty— you're saying. yeah. which is really despicable when it's one of really despicable when it's one et my— really despicable when it's one et my tstnee— really despicable when it's one of my esther and— really despicable when it's one of my esther and phil my if ste-s— of my esther and phil my if sne-s stytnt— of my esther and phil my if she's saying that's very sad as wet.— she's saying that's very sad as wet. new— she's saying that's very sad as wet. new ts— she's saying that's very sad as well. how is it— she's saying that's very sad as well. how is it most people tteee— well. how is it most people tteee wttn— well. how is it most people agree with that?— well. how is it most people agree with that? there's only a smttt— agree with that? there's only a smttt mtteetty— agree with that? there's only a small majority of— agree with that? there's only a small majority of people who tettttty— small majority of people who actually-about- small majority of people who actually about don't small majority of people who actuthink about don't small majority of people who actuthink we about don't small majority of people who actuthink we have it don't small majority of people who actuthink we have so don't small majority of people who actuthink we have so many n't you think we have so many peettems— problems in the world with nemepnettt— problems in the world with homophobia ?— problems in the world with homophobia ? it's not an opinion homophobia? it's not an opinion , homophobia? it's not an opinion . teysten— homophobia? it's not an opinion . teysten ts— homophobia? it's not an opinion . teysten ts tte— homophobia? it's not an opinion , fryston, is it? no— homophobia? it's not an opinion , fryston, is it? no it's not. tnt— , fryston, is it? no it's not. ant tt— , fryston, is it? no it's not. ant tt yet— , fryston, is it? no it's not. and if you don't- , fryston, is it? no it's not. and if you don't like it, you meet— and if you don't like it, you neet te— and if you don't like it, you neet te te— and if you don't like it, you neet te te te— and if you don't like it, you need to go to a— and if you don't like it, you need to go to a different seneet. — need to go to a different seneet. se— need to go to a different school. so i'm- need to go to a different school. so i'm reporting you to neet— school. so i'm reporting you to neet te— school. so i'm reporting you to neet te ntwe— school. so i'm reporting you to need to have a— school. so i'm reporting you to need to have a proper education. all conversation— need to have a proper education. all conversation about about etttttty— all conversation about about etttttty tnt— all conversation about about equality and diversity and tnettsten— equality and diversity and inclusion because i'm not having tntt— inclusion because i'm not having tntt expeesset— inclusion because i'm not having that expressed in— inclusion because i'm not having that expressed in my lesson . a that expressed in my lesson. a few— that expressed in my lesson. a tew tessens— that expressed in my lesson. a tew tessens . — that expressed in my lesson. a few lessons . their- that expressed in my lesson. a few lessons . . i eits; few lessons. their teachers are clearly , in that case, thick. clearly, in that case, thick. a pupil was in year nine or year eight able to outsmart them using basic facts and logic and a general genuine thought. there was also , of course, the idea was also, of course, the idea then that kids in schools are
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being made punished , punishable being made punished, punishable by death . tensions being by death. tensions being reported to the headteacher or actually being told to physically leave the school while they are being forced by people we pay as taxpayers to educate our children, to accept the fact that the person sitting over there is a cat. kate john went, who's a diversity and inclusion facilitator, joins me now . thank inclusion facilitator, joins me now. thank you very inclusion facilitator, joins me now . thank you very much, katie. now. thank you very much, katie. great to have you on the show. has the world gone mad ? and if has the world gone mad? and if you think it has to be honest, i would love to identify as a cat . i have about a dozen of them. i . i have about a dozen of them. t ttt— . i have about a dozen of them. t ttt tettttty— . i have about a dozen of them. i did actually want— . i have about a dozen of them. i did actually want to— . i have about a dozen of them. i did actually want to point- . i have about a dozen of them. i did actually want to point out that that my preferred pronouns were purr actually short for person. but but it would be great because i'm please don't hurt my feelings by kind of so i was mocking it and i can understand the mockery and i'm a trans person . so i think that trans person. so i think that kind of thing has gone too far. i do think it may be actually, i'm not sure of the entirely of
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the facts that it may a the facts that it may be a private school. may be private school. it may be a church so i don't know church school. so i don't know whether state paid whether they're state paid or not, way, gone not, but either way, it's gone too i really did too far. but what i really did respect, was the actual respect, though, was the actual conversation been had by the two pupils with the teacher. and that's kind of free speech that's the kind of free speech discussion that should be allowed to take place even in a school. if that is it, free school. and if that is it, free speech. katie this is the thing . ts— speech. katie this is the thing . ts tte— speech. katie this is the thing . ts pp setty— speech. katie this is the thing . ts pp setty t— speech. katie this is the thing . is it? sorry i mean- speech. katie this is the thing . is it? sorry i mean that to me sounded like a child saying i don't have to accept what you're telling me, which is that there are x amount of genders and that somebody can be i don't even know what you'd call it, trans mammal this case. you mammal in this case. you know, a cat , right? i don't have to cat, right? i don't have to accept that . and the teacher accept that. and the teacher saying, do accept that. and the teacher saying, d0 , accept that. and the teacher saying, do , otherwise saying, well, you do, otherwise you're in loads of trouble . you're in loads of trouble. yeah. and that's the last 30s of it. yeah. and that's the last 30s of t. tne— yeah. and that's the last 30s of it. the teacher— yeah. and that's the last 30s of it. the teacher has— yeah. and that's the last 30s of it. the teacher has just gone way— it. the teacher has just gone wty ett— it. the teacher has just gone wty ett et— it. the teacher has just gone way out of line— it. the teacher has just gone way out of line there starting senttnt. — way out of line there starting senttnt. t-m— way out of line there starting sending. i'm sending you on like eett— sending. i'm sending you on like read rehabilitation— sending. i'm sending you on like read rehabilitation training and you read rehabilitation training and yet neet— read rehabilitation training and you need-leave— read rehabilitation training and you need leave the school. you need to leave the school. tntt— you need to leave the school. tntt-ttteety— you need to leave the school. that utterly ridiculous. that was utterly ridiculous. wntt— that was utterly ridiculous. what-teacher- that was utterly ridiculous. what teacher should have what a good teacher should have tene— what a good teacher should have tenelemtetee— what a good teacher should have done .embrace the _ what a good teacher should have done embrace the discussion done is embrace the discussion tnt—
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done is embrace the discussion tnt-.— done is embrace the discussion tnt. wntt— done is embrace the discussion tnt. wntt te— done is embrace the discussion and , what are other people and said, what are other people tntnt— and said, what are other people tntnt tt— and said, what are other people tntnt tt-petnt— and said, what are other people think at-point and- and said, what are other people think at point and have the think at this point and have the tetttt— think at this point and have the actual discussion?— think at this point and have the actual discussion? there is a wet— actual discussion? there is a weet-sne-s— actual discussion? there is a word she's called word for it. she's called temtntsm— word for it. she's called feminism, which i only learned by feminism, which i only learned ty—wne- by meeting someone who identified— by meeting someone who identified as— by meeting someone who identified as a— by meeting someone who identified as a wolf. i identified as a wolf. and i tettttty— identified as a wolf. and i actually found— identified as a wolf. and i actually found out there is a wet— actually found out there is a weet-ttst— actually found out there is a word just because word for it just because there's a word for it just because there's t—mtte- word for it just because there's t—mtte ttl a word for it doesn't make it neeesstetty— a word for it doesn't make it necessarily true _ a word for it doesn't make it necessarily true .— a word for it doesn't make it necessarily true . and in the necessarily true. and in the stme-tntt— necessarily true. and in the same that might same way that you might have peepte—tettewei same way that you might have. people—believe in people in a class who believe in ttteett— people in a class who believe in literal-creationism - people in a class who believe in literal creationism and literal recent creationism and etnees— literal recent creationism and others- believe - literal recent creationism and others believe evolution others who believe in evolution , others who believe in evolution tyou— others who believe in evolution . yet snettt— others who believe in evolution . yet snettt te— others who believe in evolution , you should be -to- others who believe in evolution , you should be to have a , you should be able to have a conversation _ , you should be able to have a conversation-.- , you should be able to have a conversation . people conversation piece. people who nett—tettet- conversation piece. people who hold—belief that- hold a religious belief that mttnt— hold a religious belief that might different those that might be different to those that nett— might be different to those that hold sexuality— might be different to those that hold sexuality beliefs. we've got hold sexuality beliefs. we've tet-te— hold sexuality beliefs. we've tetlte ttte— hold sexuality beliefs. we've got-be able to— hold sexuality beliefs. we've got be able to hold got to be able to hold a eespeetttt— got to be able to hold a respectful for- got to be able to hold a respectful for space these kind of conversations, _ respectful for space these kind of conversations, that means of conversations, and that means tetenees—seteet- of conversations, and that means teachers—scared of- teachers who aren't scared of ntwnt— teachers who aren't scared of ntwnt t— teachers who aren't scared of having a conversation. and tntt-s— having a conversation. and that's where— having a conversation. and that's where it— having a conversation. and that's where it should have tene— that's where it should have gone, because _ that's where it should have gone, because i— that's where it should have gone, because i think the kids are gone, because i think the kids tee-tttte— gone, because i think the kids tee-tttte teet- gone, because i think the kids are-quite good in- are actually quite good in science-what's. are actually quite good ini science -what's the science right? what's the difference between a child looking teacher looking at their maths teacher and two plus two equals and saying two plus two equals five and a teacher telling that same child that they have to accept that this is a completely random name right by the way. but claire is now a horse race because one of the things that is different is that you should
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be able to teach science as science and beliefs as beliefs. obviously , someone believing obviously, someone believing tney-ee— obviously, someone believing tney-eelneese— obviously, someone believing they're l horse is _ obviously, someone believing they're horse is kind of they're a horse is kind of a mytnetettett— they're a horse is kind of a mythological thing, but at the ttme— mythological thing, but at the same time, two— mythological thing, but at the same time, two plus two equals tete— same time, two plus two equals eete—te- four. you should be able to teten— four. you should be able to teach-maths- four. you should be able toi teach-maths-there teach them maths and there snettt—t- teach them maths and therei should—i think should be no dispute. i think tntt-s—t- should be no dispute. i think tntt-s—t etn- that's why you and i can tneeeteee— that's why you and i can therefore-and- that's why you and i can therefore and discuss therefore teach and discuss ttetettett— therefore teach and discuss biological biological biological sex. is biological sext— biological sex. is biological ttt— biological sex. is biological sex, but then _ biological sex. is biological sex, but then to _ biological sex. is biological sex, but then to discuss peepte-s— sex, but then to discuss people's beliefs , everything people's beliefs, everything teem— people's beliefs, everything teem tne— people's beliefs, everything teem tne-et- people's beliefs, everything from the of religion to from the realms of religion to the from the realms of religion to tne etmts— from the realms of religion to the realms of— from the realms of religion to the realms of identity could be ttsetsset— the realms of identity could be ttsetsset tn— the realms of identity could be discussed in identity framework, in discussed in identity framework, tnlpnttesepny— discussed in identity framework, in philosophy framework, in a philosophy framework, wttnett— in a philosophy framework, without them— in a philosophy framework, without them having to be taught as without them having to be taught ts-wnen— without them having to be taught ts-wnen tney— without them having to be taught as .when they start,- without them having to be taught as when they start, when as fact when they start, when tntt—tt-enti that teacher says at the end, tneee— that teacher says at the end, there .explicit _ that teacher says at the end, there explicit three sexes, there are explicit three sexes, tneee— there are explicit three sexes, tneee te— there are explicit three sexes, there are umpteen genders. tntt-s— there are umpteen genders. that's teaching— there are umpteen genders. that's teaching something as ttet— that's teaching something as ttet ttnt— that's teaching something as fact around which something is my— fact around which something is enty t— fact around which something is enty t tettet— fact around which something is only a belief. does that not? tees— only a belief. does that not? tees-net— only a belief. does that not? does-not exemplify- does that not exemplify perfectly? that just ordinary teachers are not up to the job of educate children about matters like that? that is, if you're going to do it at all, get in a specialist because you end up with someone like i keep using this term. you know, sandra from the geography department into a stand department who gets into a stand up a child about
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up row with a child about whether or their mate is whether or not their mate is a cat . and i don't my kids to cat. and i don't send my kids to school . yeah, who school for that. yeah, but who is a specialist? if you bring in the specialist,— is a specialist? if you bring in the specialist, aren't- i 57 if you bring in the specialist, aren't they going— the specialist, aren't they going-actually- the specialist, aren't they going actually be even going to actually be even steentee— going to actually be even steentee en— going to actually be even stronger on trans gender stronger on the trans gender tnee— stronger on the trans gender ttet-tn— stronger on the trans gender ttnee-tn t— stronger on the trans gender line? in a discussion, line? bring in a discussion, tetnt— line? bring in a discussion, tetnt tn— line? bring in a discussion, tetnt tn t— line? bring in a discussion, bring in a panel, bring in a tettte— bring in a panel, bring in a debate. let's— bring in a panel, bring in a debate. let's have schools mean the debate. let's have schools mean tne testwtt— debate. let's have schools mean the festival of— debate. let's have schools mean the festival of ideas actually- sponsors—encourages sponsors and actually encourages tnnttt— sponsors and actually encourages tnnttt seneets— sponsors and actually encourages annual schools debates. let's tettttty— annual schools debates. let's tettttty tet— annual schools debates. let's actually get kids— annual schools debates. let's actually get kids talking and ttsetsstnt— actually get kids talking and discussing and— actually get kids talking and discussing and actually engaging with discussing and actually engaging wttn teptes— discussing and actually engaging wttn teptes . — discussing and actually engaging with topics . all— discussing and actually engaging with topics . ge discussing and actually engaging with topics. ge with topics. all right, katie, thank you very much . as ever. thank you very much. as ever. katie john went, there is diversity and inclusion facilitator reacting that facilitator reacting to that ridiculous of teacher ridiculous clip of a teacher having argument with a having an argument with a kid about when come back, about a cat. when i come back, should brits be given priority for over for council housing over migrants? i say yes , and it's migrants? i say yes, and it's about time to patrick christys on gb news, britain's news.
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it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now, should british nationals be given priority? social housing over migrants? it's been going on for too long where people who've just arrived in this country can bump brits down the queue.i country can bump brits down the queue. i say yes, but i say it needs to go further. every single public service brits should be given a priority . big should be given a priority. big discussion on this very, very shortly . mortgage misery for shortly. mortgage misery for millions. there will this affect you? the rise of the interest rates, well, who to rates, crucially as well, who to blame? this is really blame? i think this is really vitally important that we figure out this out why we've got to this situation or situation and how badly or otherwise might affect you. otherwise it might affect you. in other news, we're going to be talking . more than talking about this. more than 1000 foreign criminals, including rapists, terrorists and murderers, are currently on the run in britain . and in fact, the run in britain. and in fact, foreign nationals make up 10% of our in prison population. we are, by definition , importing are, by definition, importing around 10% of the people that we actually have in prison. so there we go. big day for boris in a way, is he? i don't know. i've kind of stopped caring
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about know you about this. i don't know if you have yes, are have or not, but yes, mps are going some kind of vote going to do some kind of vote as to or old 90 day to whether or not the old 90 day suspension will go through. but also, or not also, crucially, whether or not it have parliamentary it should have a parliamentary pass. mp pass. i will be joined by an mp who so strongly about this who feels so strongly about this being court's being a kangaroo court's decision to be decision that he's going to be wearing tie live on wearing a kangaroo tie live on air. tune in to find who. air. tune in to find out who. and yes, course , and finally, yes, of course, we're be doing a little we're going to be doing a little bit well. gender bit of this as well. the gender madness that's taking place. good thing. rishi sunak says, i am going to stop kids being able to change their gender without the knowing. winner, the parents knowing. winner, winner dinner. however, winner chicken dinner. however, a school has threatened to kick out a year nine pupil because she didn't want to accept that her classmate kate was now a cat . the world's gone mad . her classmate kate was now a cat . the world's gone mad. in her classmate kate was now a cat . the world's gone mad . in fact, . the world's gone mad. in fact, we have a little bit of audio of this interaction, if you want to call it that, between an incredibly thick teacher and a very pupil. all the very intelligent pupil. all the genden very intelligent pupil. all the gender, there are— very intelligent pupil. all the gender, there are lots- very intelligent pupil. all the gender, there are lots of- gender, there are lots of tentees— gender, there are lots of tentees tn— gender, there are lots of genders in there. there is age . genders in there. there is age. tnt— genders in there. there is age. ant tne— genders in there. there is age. ant tne peepte— genders in there. there is age. and the people who don't believe tney— and the people who don't believe tney ntwe— and the people who don't believe tney ntwe t— and the people who don't believe they have a gender— and the people who don't believe
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they have a gender at . all those they have a gender at. all those are they have a gender at. all those tne— they have a gender at. all those tne peepte— they have a gender at. all those are the people teaching your ttts. — are the people teaching your- kids. gbviews@gbnews.com. when i come back, i will be going in big on the foreign criminals issue and also as well whether or not british people, british nationals should be prioritised on the social housing queue. gb views gb news. com. now those are your headlines with polly . are your headlines with polly. patrick. thank you. the top steetes— patrick. thank you. the top stories this— patrick. thank you. the top stories this hour.— tit: thank you. the top stories this hour. the is thank you. the top stories this hour. the prime ttntstee— stories this hour. the prime minister says— stories this hour. the prime minister says he's going to skip a minister says he's going to skip t tettte— minister says he's going to skip t tettte en— minister says he's going to skip a debate on the— minister says he's going to skip a debate on the report that tetnt— a debate on the report that found boris— a debate on the report that found boris johnson lied over ptetyttte— found boris johnson lied over ptetyttte. se— found boris johnson lied over partygate. so mps are going to teette— partygate. so mps are going to teette tetty— partygate. so mps are going to decide today whether or not to stnetten — decide today whether or not to stnetten tne— decide today whether or not to sanction the former prime ttntstee— sanction the former prime minister after— sanction the former prime minister after the privileges eemmtttee— minister after the privileges committee found last week, he eepettetty— committee found last week, he repeatedly misled the commons. the committee— repeatedly misled the commons. the committee recommended at the me— the committee recommended at the ttme tntt— the committee recommended at the ttme tntt tte— the committee recommended at the time that mrjohnson— the committee recommended at the time that mrjohnson should face time that mr johnson should face a time that mr johnson should face t to— time that mr johnson should face t to tty— time that mr johnson should face a 90 day suspension had he not tteetty— a 90 day suspension had he not already resigned— a 90 day suspension had he not already resigned in advance of tntt— already resigned in advance of that judgement. _ already resigned in advance of that judgement. however, mr tennsen-s—
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that judgement. however, mr johnson's decision to stand down tts— johnson's decision to stand down means mps will— johnson's decision to stand down means mps will no— johnson's decision to stand down means mps will no longer be tetnt— means mps will no longer be tetnt en— means mps will no longer be tetnt en nts— means mps will no longer be voting on his future in parliament.- voting on his future in parliament. number ten has said mr parliament. number ten has said we stntt— parliament. number ten has said mr sunak doesn't— parliament. number ten has said mr sunak doesn't wish to tnttenee— mr sunak doesn't wish to influence the _ mr sunak doesn't wish to influence the decision of mps tnt— influence the decision of mps tnt tne— influence the decision of mps and the metropolitan police has eentemet— and the metropolitan police has confirmed it's— and the metropolitan police has confirmed it's now— and the metropolitan police has confirmed it's now looking into tneee— confirmed it's now looking into three potential— confirmed it's now looking into three potential breaches of cowo— three potential breaches of covid regulations between june 2on— covid regulations between june 2020 tnt— covid regulations between june 2020 tnt wty— covid regulations between june 2020 and may 20th, 21, at tewntnt— 2020 and may 20th, 21, at downing street— 2020 and may 20th, 21, at downing street and at chequers . downing street and at chequers. tntt-s— downing street and at chequers. tntt-s tttee— downing street and at chequers. that's after the _ downing street and at chequers. that's after the sunday mirror ettttnet— that's after the sunday mirror obtained video— that's after the sunday mirror obtained video footage showing eenseewttwe— obtained video footage showing conservative staff— obtained video footage showing conservative staff partying ttetnt— conservative staff partying ttetnt tne— conservative staff partying during the pandemic lockdown and tettnt— during the pandemic lockdown and tettnt ttett— during the pandemic lockdown and joking about restrictions at the me— joking about restrictions at the ttme .— joking about restrictions at the ttme . ttsnt — joking about restrictions at the time . rishi sunak says he time. rishi sunak says he teesn-t— time. rishi sunak says he doesn't want— time. rishi sunak says he doesn't want to interfere in the mtttee— doesn't want to interfere in the mtttee . — doesn't want to interfere in the matter. while— doesn't want to interfere in the matter. while this- doesn't want to interfere in the matter . �*vw�*e i matter. while this committee was established under the former prime minister, it commanded the confidence of the house at the time . and i'm sure that they've time. and i'm sure that they've done their work thoroughly and i respect for that. obviously respect them for that. obviously this is a matter for the house and not for the government and that's why an individual that's why each an individual colleagues will make up their own comes. own mind when the time comes. so not going to be so are you not going to be tneeee — so are you not going to be tneeee t— so are you not going to be there? i said— so are you not going to be there? i said-an- so are you not going to be- there? i said-an individual there? i said each an individual colleague up own colleague will make up their own mind comes. this
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colleague will make up their own m ad comes. this colleague will make up their own m a matter comes. this colleague will make up their own m a matter for comes. this colleague will make up their own m a matter for the comes. this colleague will make up their own m a matter for the house as. this colleague will make up their own m a matter for the house rathers is a matter for the house rather than the government. it's an than for the government. it's an important distinction that's important distinction and that's why want to influence why i wouldn't want to influence anyone vote . anyone in advance of that vote. and the former prime minister, david cameron, has told the covid 19 inquiry it was a mistake not to look at different types of diseases when preparing for future pandemics . mr cameron for future pandemics. mr cameron was for future pandemics. mr cameron ttwtnt— for future pandemics. mr cameron was giving evidence— for future pandemics. mr cameron was giving evidence to— for future pandemics. mr cameron was giving evidence to the- was giving evidence to the tntttn— was giving evidence to the indian pendant— was giving evidence to the indian pendant inquiry into the ttt-s— indian pendant inquiry into the tee espe— indian pendant inquiry into the uk's response to— indian pendant inquiry into the uk's response to the covid ptntemte— uk's response to the covid ptntemte . — uk's response to the covid pandemic. so— uk's response to the covid pandemic. .ti.e uk's response to the covid pandemic . .i.e . uk's response to the covid pandemic . .ti.e . uk's response to the covid- pandemic . so much time was spent pandemic. so much time was spent on a pandemic influenza and that was seen as the greatest danger. and it. we've had flus , we've and it. we've had flus, we've had very bad years for flu. so it is a danger. but why it is a big danger. but why wasn't more time and more questions asked about what turned out to be the pandemic that we faced? and i it's very hard to answer why that's the case. and i'm sure this public inquiry is going to spend a lot of time on that. police have broken up an albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants into the uk on small boats . three the uk on small boats. three members of the— the uk on small boats. three members of the crime- tste three members of the crime group e three members of the crime group were teeestet— members of the crime group were teeestet etety— members of the crime group were arrested early yesterday morning seeey— arrested early yesterday morning seeey tnts— arrested early yesterday morning sorry this morning—
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arrested early yesterday morning sorry this morning, i beg your pteten— sorry this morning, i beg your pteten. ty— sorry this morning, i beg your pardon, by officers from the tttentt— pardon, by officers from the national crime— pardon, by officers from the national crime agency and gb tews— national crime agency and gb news understands the group has teen— news understands the group has teen entettnt— news understands the group has been charging migrants more than smoo- — been charging migrants more than smoo- t— been charging migrants more than tweet. a teteney— been charging migrants more than tweet. a teteney .— been charging migrants more than £7,000. a journey . the arrests £7,000. a journey. the arrests come as nearly— £7,000. a journey. the arrests come as nearly 11,000 illegal mttetnts— come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants cross— come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants cross the english entnnet— migrants cross the english entnnet tn— migrants cross the english channel in small boats since the tettnntnt— channel in small boats since the tettnntnt et— channel in small boats since the beginning of this— channel in small boats since the beginning of this year. mortgage ettes— beginning of this year. mortgage ettes tn— beginning of this year. mortgage ettes tn tne— beginning of this year. mortgage rates in the uk— beginning of this year. mortgage rates in the uk have reached a high— rates in the uk have reached a nttn tnts— rates in the uk have reached a new high this year, increasing eests— new high this year, increasing eests tee— new high this year, increasing costs for borrowers and those wne— costs for borrowers and those wne wtnt— costs for borrowers and those wne wtnt te — costs for borrowers and those who want to buy— costs for borrowers and those who want to buy a house. the two yete— who want to buy a house. the two yete ttet— who want to buy a house. the two yete ttet neme— who want to buy a house. the two year fixed home loan now has a ette— year fixed home loan now has a ette et— year fixed home loan now has a ette et ttst— year fixed home loan now has a rate of just above— year fixed home loan now has a rate of just above 6. that's to teeeettnt— rate of just above 6. that's to according financial firm moneyfacts _ according financial firm moneyfacts and this morning the tetme— moneyfacts and this morning the prime minister— moneyfacts and this morning the prime minister ruled out any ettt— prime minister ruled out any extra government assistance for netsenetts— extra government assistance for households struggling with ptyments— households struggling with ptyments .— households struggling with payments . the home secretary is payments. the home secretary is tetty— payments. the home secretary is tetty tettnt— payments. the home secretary is today urging police chiefs across england and wales to ramp up across england and wales to ramp tp tne— across england and wales to ramp tp tne tse— across england and wales to ramp tp tne et— across england and wales to ramp up the use of stop— across england and wales to ramp up the use of stop and search pewes— up the use of stop and search powers. suella— up the use of stop and search powers. suella braverman said etteees— powers. suella braverman said ettteees wne — powers. suella braverman said officers who use— powers. suella braverman said officers who use the powers have her officers who use the powers have nee tttt— officers who use the powers have nee tttt stppeet— officers who use the powers have nee tttt stppeet .— officers who use the powers have her full support . but to prevent her full support. but to prevent wetenee— her full support. but to prevent wetenee tnt— her full support. but to prevent violence and save— her full support. but to prevent violence and save more lives. twee— violence and save more lives. however critics— violence and save more lives. however critics of— violence and save more lives. however critics of stop and seten— however critics of stop and seten sty— however critics of stop and seten sty tt— however critics of stop and search say it disproportionately ttetets— search say it disproportionately ttetets tttet— search say it disproportionately
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targets black and ethnic mtneetty— targets black and ethnic minority communities. targets black and ethnic minority communities . as the minority communities. as the neme— minority communities. as the home secretary— minority communities. as the home secretary told the commons . sne— home secretary told the commons . sne wtnts— home secretary told the commons . sne wtnts eweey— home secretary told the commons , she wants every community to tetst— , she wants every community to tetst tn— , she wants every community to tetst tn step— , she wants every community to trust in stop and— , she wants every community to trust in stop and search, but ttts— trust in stop and search, but ttts tt— trust in stop and search, but adds it must— trust in stop and search, but adds it must be— trust in stop and search, but adds it must be applied eespensttty— adds it must be applied responsibly. - adds it must be applied responsibly . e responsibly. it's always heartbreaking and distressing to read reports about stabbings and shootings. i'm struck by how often mothers of murdered young black men say that stop and search could have saved their sons lives . we owe it to them to sons lives. we owe it to them to heed their call . the facts are heed their call. the facts are on their side. stop and search works and is a vital tool in the fight against serious violent crime . no further developments, crime. no further developments, but just keeping you up to date on that breaking news. we brought you half an- etg we brought you half an hour ago. tne— brought you half an hour ago. tne us— brought you half an hour ago. the us coastguard telling gb tews— the us coastguard telling gb news news they— the us coastguard telling gb news news they are coordinating the news news they are coordinating tne—mtsstnt- news news they are coordinating the—missing vessel. the search for a missing vessel ett— the search for a missing vessel ett tt— the search for a missing vessel ett tt set— the search for a missing vessel out at sea, but— the search for a missing vessel out at sea, but they're unable to out at sea, but they're unable te eenttem — out at sea, but they're unable to confirm any— out at sea, but they're unable to confirm any further details. it to confirm any further details. tt tettews— to confirm any further details. it follows reports— to confirm any further details. it follows reports that a submersible— it follows reports that a submersible taking tourists to the submersible taking tourists to tne stte— submersible taking tourists to tne stte et— submersible taking tourists to the site of the— submersible taking tourists to the site of the titanic wreckage
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nts— the site of the titanic wreckage nts tene— the site of the titanic wreckage has gone missing.— the site of the titanic wreckage has gone missing. more detail on tntt.— has gone missing. more detail on tntt. et— has gone missing. more detail on that, of course,— has gone missing. more detail on that, of course, as— has gone missing. more detail on that, of course, as soon as we tet— that, of course, as soon as we tet tt— that, of course, as soon as we tet tt .— that, of course, as soon as we get tt . tew— that, of course, as soon as we get tt. wew. neee— that, of course, as soon as we get it . now, here in the uk, get it. now, here in the uk, tettn— get it. now, here in the uk, train drivers,— get it. now, here in the uk, train drivers, 16— get it. now, here in the uk, train drivers, 16 rail operators wtt— train drivers, 16 rail operators wttt eetset— train drivers, 16 rail operators will refuse to— train drivers, 16 rail operators will refuse to work overtime for six will refuse to work overtime for stx ttys— will refuse to work overtime for stx ttys next— will refuse to work overtime for six days next month in their entetnt— six days next month in their ongoing dispute— six days next month in their ongoing dispute over pay . aslef ongoing dispute over pay. aslef sttt— ongoing dispute over pay. aslef sttt tts— ongoing dispute over pay. aslef said its members— ongoing dispute over pay. aslef said its members will withdraw non—contractual— said its members will withdraw non—contractual overtime time tnewn— non—contractual overtime time tnewn ts— non—contractual overtime time tnewn ts test— non—contractual overtime time known as rest day working from ttentty— known as rest day working from ttentty. ttty— known as rest day working from ttentty. ttty tne— known as rest day working from monday, july the third to stttetty. — monday, july the third to stttetty. ttty— monday, july the third to saturday, july the 8th. the wtttetts— saturday, july the 8th. the walkouts coincide with the first week— walkouts coincide with the first week et— walkouts coincide with the first week of wimbledon . the prime week of wimbledon. the prime ttntstee— week of wimbledon. the prime ttntstee nts— week of wimbledon. the prime minister has told— week of wimbledon. the prime minister has told president zetenstyy— minister has told president zelenskyy ukraine's counter—offensive against russia is counter—offensive against russia ts mtttnt— counter—offensive against russia ts mtttnt teet— counter—offensive against russia is making good progress. the two tettees— is making good progress. the two tettees spete— is making good progress. the two leaders spoke earlier this meentnt— leaders spoke earlier this meentnt ts— leaders spoke earlier this morning as kyivs troops sought to morning as kyivs troops sought te eettte— morning as kyivs troops sought to retake territory— morning as kyivs troops sought to retake territory occupied by tttn-s— to retake territory occupied by putin's forces.— to retake territory occupied by putin's forces. rishi sunak said the putin's forces. rishi sunak said tne tt— putin's forces. rishi sunak said tne ttt ts— putin's forces. rishi sunak said the uk is still— putin's forces. rishi sunak said the uk is still firmly behind ttettne— the uk is still firmly behind ukraine and— the uk is still firmly behind ukraine and small steps forward will ukraine and small steps forward wttt tetnt— ukraine and small steps forward will bring success.— ukraine and small steps forward will bring success. in his call wttn— will bring success. in his call wttn tte— will bring success. in his call with mr sunak— will bring success. in his call with mr sunak ,— will bring success. in his call with mr sunak , he said they with mr sunak, he said they ttsetsset— with mr sunak, he said they discussed further cooperation to exptnt— discussed further cooperation to expand ukraine's— discussed further cooperation to expand ukraine's capabilities tneettn— expand ukraine's capabilities through long—range weapons.
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tnese— through long—range weapons. tnese te— through long—range weapons. those are the— through long—range weapons. those are the latest news steetes— those are the latest news steetes yet— those are the latest news stories you are- those are the latest news stories you are up to date on. en— stories you are up to date on. tn tews— stories you are up to date on. gb news. more— stories you are up to date on. gb news. more news as it happens . tew— gb news. more news as it happens . tew ttet— gb news. more news as it happens . tew ttet te— gb news. more news as it happens . tew ttet te .— . now back to. patrick ltets— . now back to. patrick | tets et— . now back to. patrick . lots of top- . now back to. patrick - lots of top topicsi . now back to. patrick lots of top topics this hour, . now back to. patrick lots of tin topics this hour, . now back to. patrick lots of tin on)ics this hour, . now back to. patrick lots of tin on this.his hour, . now back to. patrick lots of tin on this. we'llur, but i'm going in on this. we'll return to it a little bit later on. more than 1000 foreign criminals, including terrorists, rapists, and, are on rapists, murderers and, are on the run in britain. we currently have around 19% more foreign lags at large than we did in 2019. these include people like iraqi reza gaz and ghana, who posed as a taxi driver to pick up his 25 year old victim outside a radisson hotel before raping her at a flat in glasgow in december 2006. he was convicted of that rape and then granted bail before he was sentenced. and he's just disappeared. among those listed as missing are five murderers
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and 38 violent offenders . there and 38 violent offenders. there are also up to five terrorists, 11 rapists, several, and 13 other sex offenders, and apparent lee, the largest proportion of missing fugitives, 352 of them are drugs offenders , including gangsters suspected of smuggling huge quantities of cocaine and heroin into the country. but the amount of people we're catching has gone down. data released under freedom of information laws also shows that there has been a 15% fall in the number of foreign criminals successfully captured last year. the home office located 189 of them, compared with 222 back in 2020. so we have more dangerous foreign criminals on the run and less of them being caught. criminals on the run and less of them being caught . and all of them being caught. and all of thatis them being caught. and all of that is shocking enough . but that is shocking enough. but there's more to this , there's more to this, unfortunately. and i actually think this is possibly more pertinent than the old foreigners on the run angle to this story. tim lawson of the home affairs committee revealed that we have 9000 foreign nationals currently in prisons .
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nationals currently in prisons. i had a look at what our entire prison population is for england, wales, scotland and northern ireland. it's around 87,500. so we have roughly imported 10% of our entire prison population . so 10% of prison population. so 10% of everyone in uk prisons, right now immigrated to britain and we obviously just let them in. but when you add that to the 1094 foreigners who are on the run, that takes the total to around 12. and we look at these stats, the only conclusions to come to, in my opinion, are this that we are accepting in many cases the dregs of the world. britain is getting less safe as a result , getting less safe as a result, our prisons are being overcrowded with violent , dodgy overcrowded with violent, dodgy foreign thugs. we're not deporting anywhere near enough of and we're letting of them and we're letting terrorists, rapists, and murderers evade justice so they can continue to pose a threat to innocent, brits . we innocent, law abiding brits. we do enough people in britain do have enough people in britain as it is, i think. why not deport all foreign in deport all foreign nationals in british prisons or put them in prison on an island somewhere far away from here? if you move to britain and commit a serious
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crime in this country, you should not be welcome as should not be welcome here. as for the run , i think for those on the run, i think it's vital that we round them up and get them deported before they any more innocent they ruin any more innocent lives . look, it's strong stuff, lives. look, it's strong stuff, though. i know that not everyone will agree with me, but those are my views. and is a hill are my views. and that is a hill i'm to die on. views i'm willing to die on. gb views at com. more on that at gb news dot com. more on that story little bit later on in story a little bit later on in the show, but another the show, though. but another controversial it's controversial one now. and it's actually the actually our top story of the day whether not day and it's whether or not british given british people could be given preferential treatment over migrants to migrants when it comes to council . hundreds more council houses. hundreds more migrants channel in migrants crossed the channel in small the weekend, small boats over the weekend, but under plans that could be included king's speech included in the king's speech later will be later this year, brits will be prioritised over foreigners when it social housing. it's it comes to social housing. it's important to make a distinction here well. you're here as well. what you're looking are people who looking at, there are people who will no doubt go on to claim asylum refugee status, asylum or refugee status, etcetera. is, etcetera. this story really is, i focussed i think, more focussed on economic migrants, although it does refugees as well. does include refugees as well. i am now by doctor krish am joined now by doctor krish kandiah, who leads a charity
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that helps refugees find work and housing. krish, thank you very, very much, doctor chris, for coming into the studio. now this centres around a leaked report in the times, which basically seems suggest that basically seems to suggest that the least the government is at least considering prioritising british nationals first when it comes to social housing. what do you make of the bottom line of that? i think the bottom line is isn't enough is there just isn't enough social housing and that's been a problem long time. last problem for a long time. last yean problem for a long time. last year, gove rowed back problem for a long time. last- year,-gove rowed back on year, michael gove rowed back on pttn— year, michael gove rowed back on pttn ts— year, michael gove rowed back on some plan as they— year, michael gove rowed back on some plan as they were to have mtnttteey— some plan as they were to have mandatory targets— some plan as they were to have mandatory targets for local eetnetst — mandatory targets for local etnetts t— mandatory targets for local councils. i think we need an tmtttets— councils. i think we need an ambitious housing commitment teem— ambitious housing commitment from - government- ambitious housing commitment from government because many from our government because many peepte— from our government because many peepte ntwe— from our government because many peepte ntwe teen— from our government because many people have been waiting many yetes— people have been waiting many years-appropriate- years to get appropriate netstnt. — years to get appropriate netstnt. we— years to get appropriate housing. we have foster parents, my wne— housing. we have foster parents, my wtte tnt— housing. we have foster parents, my wtte tnt .,_ housing. we have foster parents, my wife and i, we— housing. we have foster parents, my wife and i, we many of my wife and i, we know many of the my wife and i, we know many of tne-tntt— my wife and i, we know many of tne-tntt we— my wife and i, we know many of tne-tntt we tey- my wife and i, we know many of the-that we try to- the families that we try to stppeet— the families that we try to stppeet ttst— the families that we try to support just don't have adequate netstnt. — support just don't have adequate netstnt. -extet- housing. that puts extra pressure on families who are tteetty— pressure on families who are already-difficult- already under difficult circumstance, but at the same tme— circumstance, but at the same ttme .— circumstance, but at the same ttme . wete— circumstance, but at the same ttme . tn— circumstance, but at the same time , we're in the— circumstance, but at the same time , we're in the middle of time, we're in the middle of semetntnt— time, we're in the middle of something amazing. the uk has weteemet— something amazing. the uk has welcomed 175,000— something amazing. the uk has welcomed 175,000 ukraine eepttns— welcomed 175,000 ukraine orphans. we're— welcomed 175,000 ukraine orphans. we're standing with the ttettnttns— orphans. we're standing with the tttettnttns en— orphans. we're standing with the ukrainians on the— orphans. we're standing with the ukrainians on the front line. we tete— ukrainians on the front line. we nete ttsnt — ukrainians on the front line. we hear rishi sunak— ukrainians on the front line. we hear rishi sunak rightly saying that hear rishi sunak rightly saying tntt—zetenstyy- hear rishi sunak rightly saying that zelenskyy and that we're with zelenskyy and all that we're with zelenskyy and
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ttt tntt— that we're with zelenskyy and ttt tntt ne-s— that we're with zelenskyy and all that he's trying to do, but ttten— all that he's trying to do, but we've taken in— all that he's trying to do, but we've taken in 175,000 of their women and children, many of them are women and children, many of them sttytnt— women and children, many of them sttytnt wttn— women and children, many of them are staying with people like me and are staying with people like me tnt yet— are staying with people like me tnt yet tnt— are staying with people like me and you and that— are staying with people like me and you and that that hosting teetnemenet— and you and that that hosting arrangement can't last forever . arrangement can't last forever. so arrangement can't last forever. se tnese— arrangement can't last forever. so those families— arrangement can't last forever. so those families are going to meet— so those families are going to need somewhere— so those families are going to need somewhere live . at the need somewhere to live. at the stmee—t— need somewhere to live. at the stmee—t tne- need somewhere to live. at thei same _of the brazier same time, many of the brazier tyn— same time, many of the brazier tytw tttntns— same time, many of the brazier kyiv afghans fighting or kyiv afghans who are fighting or stppeettnt— kyiv afghans who are fighting or stppeettnt et— kyiv afghans who are fighting or supporting our armed services in tttntntsttn— supporting our armed services in afghanistan when— supporting our armed services in afghanistan when they were ewtetttet — afghanistan when they were evacuated because they had been ttttet— evacuated because they had been ttttet ty— evacuated because they had been ttttet ty tne— evacuated because they had been killed by the taliban and we eetttn-t— killed by the taliban and we eetttn-t ttst— killed by the taliban and we couldn't just leave them behind. we couldn't just leave them behind. we ten-t— couldn't just leave them behind. we ten-t teett— couldn't just leave them behind. we don't treat veterans like tntt.— we don't treat veterans like tntt. se— we don't treat veterans like tntt. se we— we don't treat veterans like that, so we shouldn't treat we don't treat veterans like that, who; shouldn't treat we don't treat veterans like that, who; shothelped eat we don't treat veterans like that, who; shothelped us there those who have helped us there petnt— those who have helped us there petnt-tntt. — those who have helped us there petnt-tntt. ite- those who have helped us there point-that. .do treatj point out on that. we do treat veterans like that, unfortunately. last week unfortunately. i mean, last week i reported on a story of a military veteran who froze to death he couldn't death because he couldn't get any do you think we any housing. do you think we should be accepting these people if can't our own if we can't house our own already? i think it's not a zero ttme. t— already? i think it's not a zero sum game. i don't— 37 i think it's not a zero sum game. i don't think we snettt— sum game. i don't think we snettt te— sum game. i don't think we should be thinking, okay, tneee-s— should be thinking, okay, there's amount there's a limited amount of netstnt— there's a limited amount of| netstnt—te there's a limited amount of- netstnt—te tet housing and who's going to get it. housing and who's going to get tt. —eetttty.- housing and who's going to get tt—eetttty. t- it. that's not the reality. i ttnt— it. that's not the reality. i tntnt we— it. that's not the reality. i think we need— it. that's not the reality. i think we need to be ambitious. teen— think we need to be ambitious. teet. twe— think we need to be ambitious. look, i've working— think we need to be ambitious. look, i've working project look, i've working on a project wttn—netstetl with some friends in bristol. t hey— with some friends in bristol.l tney—ete they looked at the council car ptets— they looked at the council car parks,_underusedl parks, completely underused sptee— parks, completely underused sptee tn— parks, completely underused space in fantastic city centre
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teettens— space in fantastic city centre locations, and _ space in fantastic city centre locations, and they built semetntnt— locations, and they built something they built above an extstnt— something they built above an extstnt et— something they built above an existing car park.— something they built above an existing car park. you didn't tettttty— existing car park. you didn't actually lose— existing car park. you didn't actually lose any car parking spees— actually lose any car parking spees tney— actually lose any car parking spaces. they didn't build with a lot. concrete, _ spaces. they didn't build with a lot-concrete, which - spaces. they didn't build with a lot concrete, which is great lot of concrete, which is great for-environment. - for our environment. they were eettty— for our environment. they were really—friendly- for our environment. they were really _friendly and really ecologically friendly and tney— really ecologically friendly and tney mtte— really ecologically friendly and tney mtte-et— really ecologically friendly and they made of that housing they made half of that housing twtttttte— they made half of that housing available—that- they made half of that housing available that needed available for people that needed it, available for people that needed tt—tntt— available for people that needed it,_that would- it, like people that would etneewtse— it, like people that would- otherwise—homeless it, like people that would- otherwise_homeless and otherwise have been homeless and half otherwise have been homeless and me et— otherwise have been homeless and half of-housing_ otherwise have been homeless and half of-housing-to- half of that housing want to mtte— half of that housing want to make available— half of that housing want to make available refugees . make available for refugees. tweeytety— make available for refugees. tweeytety-ttst- make available for refugees. everybody just need everybody wins. we just need a ttttee— everybody wins. we just need a ttttee pte— everybody wins. we just need a bigger pie rather— everybody wins. we just need a bigger pie rather than trying to stee— bigger pie rather than trying to sttee-tewn— bigger pie rather than trying to slice down saying slice that pie down and saying wne-s— slice that pie down and saying who's-deserving- slice that pie down and saying who's-deserving ?- slice that pie down and saying who's deserving ? someone who's more deserving? someone wne-s— who's more deserving? someone wenseeeee—t- who's more deserving? someone wenseeeee—t .- who's more deserving? someone wenseeeee—t . eel who's fled war and terror, or someone who's— who's fled war and terror, or someone who's going to be nemetess. — someone who's going to be homeless. who homeless. we want someone who is an homeless. we want someone who is tn—s- homeless. we want someone who is tn—s net- an economic migrant who is not eeenemtettty— an economic migrant who is not economically suitable enough to me— economically suitable enough to ntwe-netstnt. - economically suitable enough to have-housing. i- economically suitable enough to. have-housing. i mean, have their own housing. i mean, ttts—we— have their own housing. i mean, ttts—we tte- this is a problem we are allowing people have to allowing people in who have to rely on social housing. just rely on social housing. i just don't we're doing don't want someone we're doing that. well, economic migrant is an that. well, economic migrant is -tnteem— that. well, economic migrant is -tnteem tete— well, economic migrant is an term. eric harland is an elastic term. eric harland is an elastic term. eric harland is tn-mttetnt.- an elastic term. eric harland is an-migrant. he's- an elastic term. eric harland is an migrant. he's come an economic migrant. he's come to an economic migrant. he's come te ptty— an economic migrant. he's come te ptty teettttt— an economic migrant. he's come to play football for— an economic migrant. he's come to play football for man city tnt— to play football for man city tnt-ptt— to play football for man city tnt-pttt-et- to play football for man city and paid of money to and get paid a lot of money to do and get paid a lot of money to te-tntnt— and get paid a lot of money to do-think you're- and get paid a lot of money to do think you're talking do that. i think you're talking ttett— do that. i think you're talking ttett peepte— do that. i think you're talking about people maybe who've come teem—tee- from poorer countries who are wttne— from poorer countries who are wttttnt—tntt- from poorer countries who arei willing—that some willing to take jobs that some of willing to take jobs that some et-ettsens— willing to take jobs that some of-citizens aren't- willing to take jobs that some of citizens aren't willing of our citizens aren't willing to of our citizens aren't willing te-t— of our citizens aren't willing te-t ttnt— of our citizens aren't willing to-i think we- of our citizens aren't willing to i think we need to to take. i think we need to etetn— to take. i think we need to etetn tp— to take. i think we need to etetn tp et— to take. i think we need to clean up our asylum system . clean up our asylum system. tneee-s— clean up our asylum system. tneee-s t— clean up our asylum system. there's a backlog. many people are there's a backlog. many people tee-tntt— there's a backlog. many people
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are-that shouldn't- are in hotels that shouldn't be. we are in hotels that shouldn't be. we—tntt. — are in hotels that shouldn't be.| we _that. -think we need to fix that. but i think it'sldifferent_ we need to fix that. but i think it's different situation when it's a different situation when wee-ttett- it's a different situation when we're about refugees who we're talking about refugees who etneewtse— we're talking about refugees who etneewtse te— we're talking about refugees who otherwise are going to be nemetess— otherwise are going to be homeless and— otherwise are going to be homeless and we promise to offer tnem —te-se| them somewhere safe to live. so tney-ee—tn- they're not being bombed in ttettne— they're not being bombed in tttettne ee— they're not being bombed in ukraine or do— they're not being bombed in ukraine or do we not have more of ukraine or do we not have more et t— ukraine or do we not have more et t nttentt— ukraine or do we not have more of a national duty— ukraine or do we not have more of a national duty people who of a national duty to people who ntwe—tnt— of a national duty to people who have-and bred- of a national duty to people who. have-and bred-and have been born and bred here and pay have been born and bred here and pty—neee.— have been born and bred here and pty—neee. tnettne- have been born and bred here and pay—here, though? i. pay their taxes here, though? i ttnt— pay their taxes here, though? i ttnt-te— pay their taxes here, though? i think-to find- pay their taxes here, though? i think-to find a- pay their taxes here, though? i think to find a way that think we need to find a way that eweeytety— think we need to find a way that eweeytety etn— think we need to find a way that everybody can win— think we need to find a way that everybody can win .— think we need to find a way that everybody can win . and i don't everybody can win. and i don't wtnt— everybody can win. and i don't wtntleempete— everybody can win. and i don't want-compete like- everybody can win. and i don't want compete like we've been want to compete like we've been netptnt— want to compete like we've been netptntlteet— want to compete like we've been helping look families helping to look after families wne— helping to look after families wne ntwe— helping to look after families who have-entire. who have seen their entire eetntey— who have seen their entire country devastated by the ttssttns— country devastated by the russians just— country devastated by the russians just a newspaper tetete— russians just a newspaper tettete tt— russians just a newspaper article at the— russians just a newspaper article at the weekend where ttssttn— article at the weekend where russian soldiers— article at the weekend where russian soldiers castrating ttettnttn— russian soldiers castrating ukrainian soldiers. we want to evacuate people— ukrainian soldiers. we want to evacuate people from that sttttten— evacuate people from that situation. britain has done a teet— situation. britain has done a teet tet.— situation. britain has done a good job, 175,000. that's a teett— good job, 175,000. that's a get sttt.— good job, 175,000. that's a great start. other countries tte— great start. other countries like poland— great start. other countries like poland and— great start. other countries like poland and romania have tene— like poland and romania have tene wty— like poland and romania have tene wty meee— like poland and romania have done way more .— like poland and romania have done way more . so i think we done way more. so i think we ttst— done way more. so i think we ttst neet— done way more. so i think we ttst neet te— done way more. so i think we just need to make— done way more. so i think we just need to make sure there's enettn— just need to make sure there's enettn netstnt— just need to make sure there's enough housing for everybody. ant— enough housing for everybody. ant-peeptem- enough housing for everybody. and-problem is- enough housing for everybody. and problem is just and the main problem is just tneee-s— and the main problem is just there's-ambition. and the main problem is just there's ambition to there's a lack of ambition to ttttt— there's a lack of ambition to build-houses.- there's a lack of ambition to build houses. there is a build new houses. there is a ttet— - build new houses. there is a ttet— tntt- build new houses. there is a lack_ that is. build new houses. there is a. lack_ that is one lack of ambition. that is one thing we absolutely agree on that which you that no matter which way you dress unless we dress this problem up, unless we start more start building a lot more housing, nothing housing, then frankly, nothing is sorted. is going to get sorted. i absolutely you're
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absolutely hear what you're saying, which is that it is a deeply regrettable situation where having to have where we are having to have a conversation who we should conversation about who we should prioritise when it comes to the available housing stock. but unfortunately we do have to have that conversation . and can you that conversation. and can you understand why somebody who is, say, working class say, a young working class single mum in a council flat or crucially not in a council flat in this case, has waiting in this case, has been waiting for of time and for a long period of time and will get on a housing will never get on a housing waiting list above a place, above somebody who we have just said, you can come now to this country from wherever either legally or otherwise , you will legally or otherwise, you will get a house because you are more vulnerable than an indigenous brit. i mean, that is a bit of a shocker, isn't it? i think the illegal migrants are not being housed in council housing. sadly, they're being put ihto sadly, they're being put into netets— sadly, they're being put into hotels, which _ sadly, they're being put into hotels, which is— sadly, they're being put into hotels, which is costing lot hotels, which is costing a lot of hotels, which is costing a lot et-tntnt— hotels, which is costing a lot of-thinklthe- hotels, which is costing a lot. of-thinklthe amount hotels, which is costing a lot- of-thinklthe amount of of money. think of the amount of meney— of money. think of the amount of meney-teen— of money. think of the amount of money been spending on money we've been spending on test— money we've been spending on tteseltnese— money we've been spending on those,.those-and- money we've been spending on those, those and the those, on those hotels and the mtttten— those, on those hotels and the mtttten-t— those, on those hotels and the mtttten-t tty- those, on those hotels and the million -a day and - those, on those hotels and the million a day and the million pounds a day and the tttttty— million pounds a day and the tttttty-te— million pounds a day and the ability-to.it. - million pounds a day and the| ability-to.it. we've ability for us to do it. we've teen— ability for us to do it. we've teen-tnt— ability for us to do it. we've been find accommodation been able to find accommodation for if we wanted to, and
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for people if we wanted to, and that's frustrating. yeah, but the that's frustrating. yeah, but tne-meney.- that's frustrating. yeah, but the - money, £6 - that's frustrating. yeah, but. the-money, £6 million that's frustrating. yeah, but- the-money, £6 million a the wasted money, £6 million a day,— the wasted money, £6 million a tty-eettt— the wasted money, £6 million a tty-eettt-tene- the wasted money, £6 million a day,-could-gone on. day, that could have gone on ttttttnt— day, that could have gone on building housing. the building adequate housing. the ttetes— building adequate housing. the ttetes tney-ee— building adequate housing. the barges they're thinking of pttttnt— barges they're thinking of pttttnt tn— barges they're thinking of putting in the— barges they're thinking of putting in the channel kind putting in the channel to kind of putting in the channel to kind et netse— putting in the channel to kind of house asylum _ putting in the channel to kind of house asylum seekers. i heard estmtte— of house asylum seekers. i heard one estimate, £1.9— of house asylum seekers. i heard one estimate, £1.9 billion to put— one estimate, £1.9 billion to ptt tnese— one estimate, £1.9 billion to ptt tnese tee— one estimate, £1.9 billion to put those for two years. use the meney— put those for two years. use the meney tettee— put those for two years. use the money better to _ put those for two years. use the money better to invest in a peepee— money better to invest in a peepee tsyttm— money better to invest in a proper asylum system. where are you proper asylum system. where are yet tetnt— proper asylum system. where are yet tetnt te— proper asylum system. where are you going to assess— proper asylum system. where are you going to assess people? tetten— you going to assess people? ttettm peepte— you going to assess people? return people necessary, and return people if necessary, and tet-s— return people if necessary, and tet-s-tne— return people if necessary, and let's-the houses- return people if necessary, and let's the houses that let's build the houses that peepte— let's build the houses that peepte neet.— let's build the houses thati people need._it people need. don't make it a eempetten— people need. don't make it a competition. so— people need. don't make it a competition. so we're fighting wttn— competition. so we're fighting wttn tne — competition. so we're fighting with the ukrainian and afghan eetttees—te- with the ukrainian and afghan refugees be dead refugees who would be dead etneewtse— refugees who would be dead otherwise versus— refugees who would be dead otherwise versus , as you say, a otherwise versus, as you say, a stntte— otherwise versus, as you say, a stntte tm— otherwise versus, as you say, a stntte wne— otherwise versus, as you say, a single mum who hasn't goti somewhere—don't single mum who hasn't got- somewhere_don't need somewhere to live. we don't need to somewhere to live. we don't need te-eempetten. - somewhere to live. we don't need to-competition. we- to have that competition. we meet— to have that competition. we neetlnetp. — to have that competition. we need-help. -do- to have that competition. we- needlhelp. -do-say? need to help. what do they say? wett— need to help. what do they say? wet—tel well, would you would you be etty— well, would you would you be okay-situation- well, would you would you be. okay-situation-we okay with the situation where we sttt — okay with the situation where we sttt—ettmptel said you've used the example of tttntns—t- afghans and ukrainians a lot tneee— afghans and ukrainians a lot teee-t— afghans and ukrainians a lot there, i understand there, and i can understand tntt. — there, and i can understand. that. _am0ngst there, and i can understand- that. _am0ngst the that. and they are amongst the most they are the most vulnerable and they are the ones who you could argue are definitely war definitely in a war zone, etcetera. of etcetera. but there's a lot of other who aren't. other people who simply aren't. and at the most and if you look at the most people coming across the people who are coming across the channel for channel at the moment, for example, proportion example, the highest proportion of from india. example, the highest proportion of had from india. example, the highest proportion of had albania from india. example, the highest proportion of had albania fro thatdia. example, the highest proportion of had albania fro that as. we had albania before that as well. just look at well. but if we just look at lower economic migrants, lower scale economic migrants, you aren't you say people who aren't willing jobs willing to necessarily do jobs
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that brits do. i would that that brits will do. i would counter that and say maybe they were willing paid were just willing to be paid less jobs. they then less for those jobs. they then have to have somewhere to live. would you be willing to put forward some kind of stop notice forward some kind of stop notice for anyone who isn't from a war torn country in the meantime, until we house our own , well, until we house our own, well, that should be our that stop notice should be our asylum system. so you should be me— asylum system. so you should be tte-tsyttm— asylum system. so you should be able - asylum. have - asylum system. so you should be able-asylum. have your. able to claim asylum. have your tsyttm— able to claim asylum. have your tsyttm etttm— able to claim asylum. have your asylum claim heard, and then tney— asylum claim heard, and then tney mtte— asylum claim heard, and then tney mtte t— asylum claim heard, and then they make a decision about you. tntt-s— they make a decision about you. tntt-s new— they make a decision about you. tntt-s new tt— they make a decision about you. that's how it works— they make a decision about you. that's how it works in every stntte— that's how it works in every single-around- that's how it works in every single around the world single country around the world at single country around the world tt—we— single country around the world tt—we-t- single country around the world. tt—we-t system at the moment. we have a system tntt— at the moment. we have a system tntt teesn-t— at the moment. we have a system that doesn't work.— that doesn't work. it's got a ttettet— that doesn't work. it's got a ttettet et— that doesn't work. it's got a backlog of 140,000 people, and tntt— backlog of 140,000 people, and tntt-teett— backlog of 140,000 people, and that aren't allowed to that backlog aren't allowed to week. — that backlog aren't allowed to week. se— that backlog aren't allowed to week. se tney— that backlog aren't allowed to work. so they have to rely on tenetts— work. so they have to rely on benefits and _ work. so they have to rely on benefits and live— work. so they have to rely on benefits and live in a hotel. tntt-s— benefits and live in a hotel. tntt-s t— benefits and live in a hotel. that's a ridiculous system. so if that's a ridiculous system. so tt-t— that's a ridiculous system. so if-a functioning- that's a ridiculous system. so if a functioning asylum if we had a functioning asylum system— if we had a functioning asylum system .— if we had a functioning asylum system .tnen— if we had a functioning asylum system , then wouldn't be an system, then this wouldn't be an tsste— system, then this wouldn't be an . eney.— system, then this wouldn't be an issue . okay. all— system, then this wouldn't be an issue . okay. all right.- system, then this wouldn't be an issue. . th 'et: system, then this wouldn't be an issue. th issue. okay. all right. and can you understand why some people say at the moment they were born and bred here, they've got a lower economic under the spectrum job. they they can't get their kids a school place . get their kids a school place. they're fighting for gp's
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appointments through mass migration. they've been on a social housing waiting ladder for however long and then they see that somebody who has just arrived here, maybe with a few kids who is saying that they're incredibly vulnerable , gets put incredibly vulnerable, gets put ahead of them. i mean, can you understand how that's probably going to do more stoke going to do more to stoke division than anything else? i can frame it that way. can see if we frame it that way. ttte — can see if we frame it that way. like-mentioned,— like you mentioned, gp waiting ttsts— lists, that is a problem. but ttess— lists, that is a problem. but ttess-eety- lists, that is a problem. but ttess-eety en- lists, that is a problem. but. guess-rely on foreign guess what? we rely on foreign ets— guess what? we rely on foreign tts te— guess what? we rely on foreign tts te netp— guess what? we rely on foreign tts te netp ts— guess what? we rely on foreign gps to help us that waiting gps to help us with that waiting list gps to help us with that waiting ttst ee— gps to help us with that waiting ttst ee teeettn— gps to help us with that waiting list or foreign nurses who we're tttttnt— list or foreign nurses who we're talking about. _ list or foreign nurses who we're talking about. are— list or foreign nurses who we're talking about. ' "e; 7 list or foreign nurses who we're talking about. ”e; 7 talking about. are we? to be fair, then they can afford their own net own migration, like the net migration figures, 660,000 people. this year, 44,000 were peepte— people. this year, 44,000 were peepte en— people. this year, 44,000 were peepte en smttt— this year, 44,000 were people on small boats . a tiny people on small boats. a tiny peeeenttte— people on small boats. a tiny peeeenttte et— people on small boats. a tiny percentage of the overall ntmetes— percentage of the overall numbers . the- percentage of the overall numbers . the other 615,000, they numbers. the other 615,000, they are international— numbers. the other 615,000, they are international students who are international students who peepptnt— are international students who are propping up— are international students who are propping up our education system.— are propping up our education system. tst— are propping up our education system, £37 billion worth of tnwestment— system, £37 billion worth of investment every year coming tnte— investment every year coming tnte et— investment every year coming into our universities, actually mtttnt— into our universities, actually making university education more tteetttte— making university education more affordable for— making university education more affordable for the— making university education more affordable for the rest of us. tney-ee— affordable for the rest of us. they're foreign— affordable for the rest of us. they're foreign workers that tstet — they're foreign workers that we've asked to— they're foreign workers that we've asked to come here to work in we've asked to come here to work tn-nesptttts— we've asked to come here to work in-hospitals-our- we've asked to come here to work in hospitals our nursing in our hospitals and our nursing nemes — in our hospitals and our nursing nemes se— in our hospitals and our nursing nemes se we— in our hospitals and our nursing homes. so we are— in our hospitals and our nursing homes. so we are reliant on
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mttetten. — homes. so we are reliant on migration. it's— homes. so we are reliant on migration. it's not- homes. so we are reliant on migration. g migration. it's not migration conveniently done. there is ignore conveniently done. there is ttneee tne— conveniently done. there is ignore the rest— conveniently done. there is ignore the rest of- conveniently done. there is ignore the rest of it- ie : there is ignore the rest of it because if tntt— ignore the rest of it because if tntt ts— ignore the rest of it because if that was true, _ ignore the rest of it because if that was true, we _ ignore the rest of it because if that was true, we wouldn't have any— that was true, we wouldn't have tny—nesptttts- any places in our hospitals, wettt—ttt- any places in our hospitals,- would—alllthose would we? because all of those peepte— would we? because all of those peepte eemtnt— would we? because all of those peepte eemtnt-te- would we? because all of those people coming be working people coming would be working in people coming would be working tn—t— people coming would be working tn—t ntte- in them. so there is a huge ntmete— in them. so there is a hugei ntmtee—wne number of people there who are not number of people there who are net—tnese— number of people there who are not—those sectors,- not working in those sectors, universe students well are universe students as well are ttte— universe students as well are ttte te— universe students as well are ttte te tetnt— universe students as well are able to bring dependents over. i ten-t— able to bring dependents over. i ten-t tnew— able to bring dependents over. i don't know-you,- able to bring dependents over. i don't know you, when don't know about you, but when i wtsltntweestty— don't know about you, but when i was-university ,— don't know about you, but when i was university , couldn't was at university, i couldn't ntte— was at university, i couldn't ntwe—t- was at university, i couldn't ntwe—t tt have any dependents. i mean, it is have any dependents. i mean, it ts t— have any dependents. i mean, it ts t ttet— have any dependents. i mean, it ts t ttet teee— have any dependents. i mean, it is a back door into— have any dependents. i mean, it is a back door into britain. wntt— is a back door into britain. wntt wete— is a back door into britain. what we're doing at moment what we're doing at the moment wttn—sel with our university system. so eetttstettty— with our university system. so realistically, tighten realistically, until we tighten up realistically, until we tighten tp et— realistically, until we tighten up our immigration system, we're not up our immigration system, we're net-sewe— up our immigration system, we're not-solve anything- up our immigration system, we're not solve anything like not going to solve anything like the not going to solve anything like tne netstnt— not going to solve anything like the housing crisis— not going to solve anything like the housing crisis more , the housing crisis and more, tn,— the housing crisis and more, pn, seme— the housing crisis and more, brit, some of— the housing crisis and more, brit, some of have fought brit, some of whom have fought for brit, some of whom have fought tee—mtyte- for this country and maybe stteeet— for this country and maybe suffered as suffered huge mental issues as a eesttt— suffered huge mental issues as a eesttt et— suffered huge mental issues as a eesttt et tntt.— suffered huge mental issues as a result of that, are— suffered huge mental issues as a result of that, are going to mtss— result of that, are going to mtss-en— result of that, are going to miss on housing because of miss out on housing because of peepte—eene- people who've just come over neee— here bumping them down to netstnt— here bumping them down to housing—aren't. housing waiting list, aren't tneye — housing waiting list, aren't tneye se— housing waiting list, aren't tneye se t— housing waiting list, aren't they? so i think- housing waiting list, aren't they? eng: housing waiting list, aren't- they? so i think we agreed there needs be more housing. i needs to be more housing. i think there to control think there needs to be control over migration and i want a functioning asylum system. but i think we need to be nervous of the narrative that says migration general is bad . i migration in general is bad. i think economically, culturally and practically, it's actually what we rely on in order to be able to function as nation at able to function as a nation at the moment. thank very, very the moment. thank you very, very
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mten. —tnts- much. i've really enjoyed this ttet— much. i've really enjoyed this back-genuinely.- back and forth, genuinely. i nepe— back and forth, genuinely. i nepe-yet— back and forth, genuinely. i hope-you back- back and forth, genuinely. i hope you back the back and forth, genuinely. i- hope _you back .the show hope to get you back on the show tttm— hope to get you back on the show tttnsen-eee — hope to get you back on the show again-soon. thank- hope to get you back on the show again soon. thank you again very, very soon. thank you so, again very, very soon. thank you se.lmten.— again very, very soon. thank you selmten. ttts— again very, very soon. thank you so,.much. this is— again very, very soon. thank you so,.much. this is dr.- so, so much. this is dr. krish ttntttn— so, so much. this is dr. krish ttntttn-wne— so, so much. this is dr. krish kandiah-who-al kandiah there, who leads a entetty— charity that helps refugees find weet— charity that helps refugees find - week—eemtnt work and housing gb views coming in, work and housing gb views coming tn etttetsty— work and housing gb views coming in, obviously-views— work and housing gb views coming in, obviously. views news in, obviously. gb views gb news eem— neets- in, obviously. gb views gb newsi .com._, boris johnson .com. now though, boris johnson is .com. now though, boris johnson ts eetetettnt— .com. now though, boris johnson is celebrating his— .com. now though, boris johnson is celebrating his 59th birthday tetty.— is celebrating his 59th birthday tetty. ntt— is celebrating his 59th birthday tetty. ntt ttts— is celebrating his 59th birthday today. but mps could give him a peesent— today. but mps could give him a peesent ne— today. but mps could give him a present he definitely doesn't wtnt. — present he definitely doesn't wtnt. tee— present he definitely doesn't wtnt. tee yet— present he definitely doesn't want. do you think he cares tnymeeee— want. do you think he cares anymore? not— want. do you think he cares anymore? not sure. anyway so i tettewe— anymore? not sure. anyway so i tettewe we— anymore? not sure. anyway so i tettewe we etn— anymore? not sure. anyway so i believe we can go— anymore? not sure. anyway so i believe we can go to the commons . wee-t— believe we can go to the commons now , can we?-i think- believe we can go to the commons now , can we? i think we now, can we? yes, i think we -tenny— now, can we? yes, i think we can. penny mordaunt is now, can we? yes, i think we- can.-penny mordaunt is on can. where? penny mordaunt is on her can. where? penny mordaunt is on nee-net— can. where? penny mordaunt is on nee-net netttnt— can. where? penny mordaunt is on her-not holding a— can. where? penny mordaunt is on her not holding a massive her feet, not holding a massive sweet— her feet, not holding a massive sweet ttts— her feet, not holding a massive sword this-the— her feet, not holding a massive sword this-the last- her feet, not holding a massive sword this the last time i sword this time. the last time i saw-mordaunt,-wasl saw penny mordaunt, she was tetnt— doing a fantastic job at the eeeentten— doing a fantastic job at the coronation, she's the coronation, but she's in the eemmens— coronation, but she's in the eeemnens tt— coronation, but she's in the commons at moment coronation, but she's in the commons at-moment she is commons at the moment and she is ttsetsstnt— commons at the moment and she is discussing-partygate_ commons at the moment and she is discussing partygate debate. discussing the partygate debate. so discussing the partygate debate. se-tee— discussing the partygate debate. se-tee tetnt— discussing the partygate debate. se-tee tetnt te— discussing the partygate debate. so are going to have some so mps are going to have some ttnt— so mps are going to have some ttnt et— so mps are going to have some ttnt et wete— so mps are going to have some kind of vote on— so mps are going to have some kind of vote on this. they're going— kind of vote on this. they're tetnt te— kind of vote on this. they're going to discussing report going to be discussing a report tntt—tennsenl that found that boris johnson ttet— that found that boris johnson lied-parliament.- that found that boris johnson lied parliament. obviously lied to parliament. obviously wttntn— within that report it recommended day suspension recommended a 90 day suspension for recommended a 90 day suspension tee-ntt— recommended a 90 day suspension tee-ttt tne— recommended a 90 day suspension tee-ttt tne ttt— recommended a 90 day suspension for but the big discussion for him. but the big discussion tntt— for him. but the big discussion tntt-tetnt— for him. but the big discussioni that-going-having that they're going to be having is i that they're going to be having ts—t wettt- is predominantly, i would tmtttne— is predominantly, i would- imagine,_whether imagine, anyway, about whether or imagine, anyway, about whether ee-neets— imagine, anyway, about whether or-boris johnson— imagine, anyway, about whether or boris johnson will have or not boris johnson will have his or not boris johnson will have nts—tttenl or not boris johnson will have. nts—ttten et his parliamentary pass taken off him his parliamentary pass taken off ntn-en— his parliamentary pass taken off ntm-en tn— his parliamentary pass taken off ntm-en tn tne— his parliamentary pass taken off him -on in the-i'll. him later on in the show, i'll be him later on in the show, i'll tee-te— him later on in the show, i'll be to conservative him later on in the show, i'll. be-tolconservative mp be talking to a conservative mp wne—neetsi who feels so strongly that boris tennsen— who feels so strongly that boris tennsen ts— who feels so strongly that boris johnson was stitched up by a,
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ttett— johnson was stitched up by a, quote, kangaroo— johnson was stitched up by a, quote, kangaroo court that he's tettnt— quote, kangaroo court that he's bought himself— quote, kangaroo court that he's bought himself a— quote, kangaroo court that he's bought himself a tie with a load of bought himself a tie with a load et ttntteees— bought himself a tie with a load of kangaroos on— bought himself a tie with a load of kangaroos on it— bought himself a tie with a load of kangaroos on it and he's going— of kangaroos on it and he's tetnt te— of kangaroos on it and he's tetnt te et— of kangaroos on it and he's going to wear it— of kangaroos on it and he's going to wear it on the show tttee— going to wear it on the show ttet-yet— going to wear it on the show later.-you know,- going to wear it on the show later. you know, he means later. so, you know, he means ttsess— business. but yes, there's penny tteeten— business. but yes, there's penny. morden_commons. morden in the house of commons. we morden in the house of commons. we—ttte- morden in the house of commons. we—ttte. tp| we will bring you up to date, up to we will bring you up to date, up te-seeent— we will bring you up to date, up to-second reporting- we will bring you up to date, up to second reporting this to the second reporting on this ttetyttte— to the second reporting on this partygate debate— to the second reporting on this partygate debate and whether or not partygate debate and whether or net-tennsen— not boris johnson will essentially— essentially have his parliamentary pass taken off ntm— parliamentary pass taken off ntm-we-tewl him. but there we go. now homeowners— him. but there we go. now homeowners are seeing their meettttes— homeowners are seeing their meettttes-ty- homeowners are seeing their- mortgages-by thousands mortgages increased by thousands of mortgages increased by thousands et—tn— mortgages increased by thousands et—tn seme- mortgages increased by thousands of_in some cases. of pounds a year in some cases. ntt— of pounds a year in some cases. ttt-weeetet— of pounds a year in some cases. but-worried should- of pounds a year in some cases. but worried should we but just how worried should we be? but just how worried should we tee-tne— but just how worried should we be?-the reality- but just how worried should we be?-the reality of- but just how worried should we be? the reality of the be? what's the reality of the sttttten— be? what's the reality of the stttttten .— be? what's the reality of the situation , ian?— be? what's the reality of the situation , ian? is— be? what's the reality of the situation , ian? is there any situation, ian? is there any netp—tet- situation, ian? is there any netp—tet ett| situation, ian? is there any- help_get out there? situation, ian? is there any help actually, get out there? situation, ian? is there any help actually, frankly, out there? situation, ian? is there any help actually, frankly, who there? situation, ian? is there any help actually, frankly, who thtto ? and actually, frankly, who is to tttme— and actually, frankly, who is to tttme tee— and actually, frankly, who is to blame for all— and actually, frankly, who is to blame for all of— and actually, frankly, who is to blame for all of this madness? t-m — blame for all of this madness? t-m -enetstys— blame for all of this madness?i i'm _christys-news i'm patrick christys on gb news nettttn-s—
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calendar michelle dewberry and i'm calendar michelle dewberry and m teeptnt— calendar michelle dewberry and m teeptnt yet— calendar michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right tneettn— i'm keeping you company right tneettn tntt— i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening . wett— through until 7:00 this evening . wett. very— through until 7:00 this evening . well, very shortly- through until 7:00 this evening . well, very shortly i- through until 7:00 this evening . well, very shortly i will be talking about the shocking figures that reveal more than a thousand foreign criminals. so these include murderers , these include murderers, rapists, terrorists and. they're just on the run in the uk. rapists, terrorists and. they're just on the run in the uk . we've just on the run in the uk. we've let them go. we bailed them out . we said, there you go, have at it lads. and there's the it, lads. and there's the extraordinary story of the teacher called a schoolgirl teacher who called a schoolgirl despicable she refused despicable because she refused to accept a classmates claim that she identified as a cat. now look, check this out. you at the moment, at the moment, there is a school teacher at a different dared to different school who dared to suggest that the primary school aged pupil that they were to talking should not be able to change their gender. they refuse to call them by their change genden to call them by their change gender. that's teacher has been dismissed and is now looking at having sell their to house having to sell their to house cover costs. so cover the legal costs. so essentially could be made
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essentially there could be made homeless. and now we have a teacher be playing some teacher and i'll be playing some of it very, very of the audio of it very, very shortly. good leaked audio of the audio of it very, very sthisy. good leaked audio of the audio of it very, very sthisy. teacher. leaked audio of the audio of it very, very sthisy. teacher. absolutelyiio . this of a teacher. absolutely berating and in fact, losing a debate child. actually on debate to a child. actually on whether or not that their classmate should be accepted as a cat. what on earth who are these idiots teaching your kids anyway? prime minister rishi sunak has ruled out mortgage support in light of further expected interest rate rises due to take place. this thursday. now, this is an absolutely massive story. okay? an absolutely massive story, because this is the fundamental mismanagement of our economy by the people who we trust most to deal with our money. these are the who the people who full wholeheartedly lockdown. wholeheartedly back lockdown. these people who want to these are the people who want to write of money for write off a load of money for things ukraine. et cetera. things like ukraine. et cetera. a of people think a lot of people will think that's don't get me that's fair enough, don't get me wrong. also wrong. but they're also the people to manage people who we trust to manage things like interest rates. and when you hear stories like this and coming around the and what's coming around the corner these corner and you think these people should more people should be held more accountable they are, the accountable than they are, the bank england has raised the bank of england has raised the base nought point 1%
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base rate from nought point 1% to 4.5, and a think tank says the annual mortgage repayments are set to rise by £2,900 for the average household remortgaging this year. we are the people's channel. so we went out and about to hull to find out and about to hull to find out what people there think about spiralling mortgage rates. i think this 6, what you say, i'll just say , well, no, we i'll just say, well, no, we can't do that. we can't do that. tnees— can't do that. we can't do that. ntees te— can't do that. we can't do that. prices are too— can't do that. we can't do that. prices are too high.— can't do that. we can't do that. prices are too high. cost- i e . t:tst we can't do that. prices are too high. cost of ttnt— prices are too high. cost of living knocks— prices are too high. cost of living knocks everybody for six. ant— living knocks everybody for six. ant new— living knocks everybody for six. and now these— living knocks everybody for six. and now these price increases on meettttes— and now these price increases on meettttes twe— and now these price increases on mortgages i've never bought in my pp,— mortgages i've never bought in my tte. nee— mortgages i've never bought in my tte. .— mortgages i've never bought in my life, never , ever bought, my life, never, ever bought, never wanted _ my life, never, ever bought, never wanted to _ my life, never, ever bought, never wanted to really. but my tettt— never wanted to really. but my netet tees— never wanted to really. but my netn tees ett— never wanted to really. but my heart goes out to— never wanted to really. but my heart goes out to everybody who wtnts— heart goes out to everybody who wtnts te — heart goes out to everybody who wants to because _ heart goes out to everybody who wants to because they want to. ntt— wants to because they want to. ttt tney— wants to because they want to. but they cannot— wants to because they want to. but they cannot because of these tneeetses. tts— but they cannot because of these increases . it's absolutely increases. it's absolutely scandalous— increases. it's absolutely scandalous. - increases. it's absolutely scandalous . �*7 gtst i increases. it's absolutely- scandalous . if we go back just scandalous. if we go back just five, ten years where people weren't being properly assessed by mortgage companies as to whether or not they could afford them. a lot of people stretch
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their elastic a bit and made up a few numbers and they were in serious trouble in next to no time. with mortgage rates going up. when we actually bought our netse— up. when we actually bought our netse we tet— up. when we actually bought our netse we tet t— up. when we actually bought our house, we got a new— l. when we actually bought our house, we got a new build and we sttnet— house, we got a new build and we sttnet tp— house, we got a new build and we sttnet tp tee— house, we got a new build and we signed up for like— house, we got a new build and we signed up for like a— house, we got a new build and we signed up for like a lifetime , signed up for like a lifetime, seet— signed up for like a lifetime, seet et— signed up for like a lifetime, some sort of mortgage advice . so some sort of mortgage advice. so it's some sort of mortgage advice. so tt-s eettty— some sort of mortgage advice. so it's really useful— some sort of mortgage advice. so it's really useful because now whenever we need to remortgage, tney— whenever we need to remortgage, tney tet— whenever we need to remortgage, tney tet tn— whenever we need to remortgage, tney tet tn teten— whenever we need to remortgage, they get in touch and kind of but— they get in touch and kind of ptt tne— they get in touch and kind of put the figures— they get in touch and kind of put the figures to us. "cg t:tst put the figures to us. they do all put the figures to us. they do ttt tte— put the figures to us. they do all the research so it's really, really useful. yeah , right. really useful. yeah, right. well, there we go then. so that's what the fair people of hull thought about all this mortgage madness. but there's lots between lots more still to come between now course. but now and 4:00, of course. but i am to be talking sally am going to be talking to sally mitchell, mortgage mitchell, who's a mortgage advisor sally advisor and broker. look, sally , thank you very, very much. this will affect basically everybody , directly or everybody, directly or indirectly at the moment. and this feels as though the kind of economy comic weatherman have got it in incredibly wrong. and now all ordinary people are potentially going to lose their houses as a result. is there any
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truth to that ? i mean, it's truth to that? i mean, it's a eettty— truth to that? i mean, it's a really shocking— 7 i mean, it's a really shocking situation .ee.7 i mean, it's a really shocking situation . there really shocking situation. there is really shocking situation. there ts ne— really shocking situation. there ts ne tettt— really shocking situation. there is no doubt. and— really shocking situation. there is no doubt. and a lot of people are is no doubt. and a lot of people stytnt— is no doubt. and a lot of people stytnt tts— is no doubt. and a lot of people are saying it's mismanaged . are saying it's mismanaged. tsn-t— are saying it's mismanaged. tsn-t tntt— are saying it's mismanaged. isn't that the— are saying it's mismanaged. isn't that the bank- are saying it's mismanaged. isn't that the bank of- are saying it's mismanaged. isn't that the bank of england have dropped the ball? well, in many ways it has— have dropped the ball? well, in many ways it has just- t: : ste..7 well, in many ways it has just been ttmest— many ways it has just been almost like— many ways it has just been almost like a— many ways it has just been almost like a perfect storm for ttts— almost like a perfect storm for we seet— almost like a perfect storm for we seet et— almost like a perfect storm for this sort of night— almost like a perfect storm for this sort of night mare to ntppen— this sort of night mare to ntppen .— this sort of night mare to ntppen . we— this sort of night mare to happen . we can go back as far as happen. we can go back as far as teett— happen. we can go back as far as next. net— happen. we can go back as far as brexit, not that— happen. we can go back as far as brexit, not that we— happen. we can go back as far as brexit, not that we probably wtnt— brexit, not that we probably wtnt te— brexit, not that we probably wtnt te. ttt— brexit, not that we probably want to, but we— brexit, not that we probably want to, but we can go back as far want to, but we can go back as tte ts— want to, but we can go back as tte ts neextt. — want to, but we can go back as far as brexit. and— want to, but we can go back as far as brexit. and then we had the mini—budget.— far as brexit. and then we had the mini—budget. we remember tntt— the mini—budget. we remember tntt se— the mini—budget. we remember tntt se wett— the mini—budget. we remember that so well-that- the mini—budget. we remember that so well that had a huge that so well and that had a huge eteet— that so well and that had a huge eteet. ntte— that so well and that had a huge effect, huge effect— that so well and that had a huge effect, huge effect on the mtetet— effect, huge effect on the market. and _ effect, huge effect on the market. and to- effect, huge effect on the market. and to be fair, since tewemtee— market. and to be fair, since november we— market. and to be fair, since november we have been riding the tntt-s— november we have been riding the wave. that's the— november we have been riding the wave. that's the tsunami that's ntppenet.— wave. that's the tsunami that's ntppenet. ttee— wave. that's the tsunami that's happened. after all of those tntnts— happened. after all of those tntnts etme— happened. after all of those things came together and it teesn-t— things came together and it doesn't look— things came together and it doesn't look like it's going to entnte— doesn't look like it's going to entnte tny— doesn't look like it's going to change any time— doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon. there was a change any time soon. there was t ttttte— change any time soon. there was t ttttte ttt— change any time soon. there was t ttttte ttt et— change any time soon. there was a little bit of respite. tetettey— a little bit of respite. february march, things seemed to sette— february march, things seemed to settte tewn. — february march, things seemed to settle down. rates— february march, things seemed to settle down. rates did settle, ttt— settle down. rates did settle, ttt new— settle down. rates did settle, but now we're— settle down. rates did settle, but now we're just looking at tne— but now we're just looking at tne next— but now we're just looking at the next chapter,— but now we're just looking at the next chapter, which is, you mew.— the next chapter, which is, you tnew. 6- — the next chapter, which is, you tnew. 6- tts— the next chapter, which is, you tnew. 6- tt-s tt— the next chapter, which is, you know, 6. it's it just— the next chapter, which is, you know, 6. it's it just beggars tettet— know, 6. it's it just beggars belief, though- know, 6. it's it just beggars belief, though ,- know, 6. it's it just beggars belief, though , sally, because, belief, though, sally, because, you— belief, though, sally, because, yet knew.— belief, though, sally, because, yet tnew. peepte— belief, though, sally, because,
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you know, people now who have tene— you know, people now who have done absolutely— you know, people now who have done absolutely nothing wrong , done absolutely nothing wrong, wne— done absolutely nothing wrong, wne tttn-t— done absolutely nothing wrong, wne tttn-t tty— done absolutely nothing wrong, who didn't buy above their sttten— who didn't buy above their stttten ee— who didn't buy above their station or who _ who didn't buy above their station or who bought a few yetes— station or who bought a few yetes 690t— station or who bought a few years ago, fixed— station or who bought a few years ago, fixed at five years or years ago, fixed at five years ee tneee— years ago, fixed at five years or three years— years ago, fixed at five years or three years or— years ago, fixed at five years or three years or two years or wnttewee. — or three years or two years or whatever. and— or three years or two years or whatever. and have- or three years or two years or whatever. etg whatever. and have been paying, you know, stretching themselves a bit, but not ridiculously. just living a normal life, going about their business. us and now those at of those numpties at the bank of england ending raising england are ending up raising it's and they're going it's up to 6% and they're going to house. i mean, on to lose their house. i mean, on top food is going up. top of that, food is going up. we have money we seem to have money for absolutely everything else around what's around the world and not what's going here the going on right here at the moment. are going to moment. i mean, are you going to end millions of people end up with millions of people just pay their just unable to pay their mortgage? yeah, mean, people just unable to pay their m0ibeing? yeah, mean, people just unable to pay their- moibeing squeezed mean, people just unable to pay their- moibeing squeezed metall people just unable to pay their- moibeing squeezed metall sides.e are being squeezed on all sides. tntt-s—tete- are being squeezed on all sides. tntt-s—tete .- are being squeezed on all sides. that's—true . there'si that's absolutely true. there's 1.5 that's absolutely true. there's ts mtttten— that's absolutely true. there's 1.5 million coming up for the ent— 1.5 million coming up for the entltnete— 1.5 million coming up for the end-their fixed— 1.5 million coming up for the end their fixed rates this end of their fixed rates this yete.— end of their fixed rates this yete-ltt-s— end of their fixed rates this yete-ltt-s tn— end of their fixed rates this year. it's an awful lot of year. so it's an awful lot of households— year. so it's an awful lot of households that— year. so it's an awful lot of households that are affected and it households that are affected and t eetttn-t— households that are affected and it couldn't have— households that are affected and it couldn't have come at a worse tme— it couldn't have come at a worse ttme wttn— it couldn't have come at a worse time with with- it couldn't have come at a worse time with with everything else, the time with with everything else, tne eest— time with with everything else, tne eest et— time with with everything else, the cost of living,— time with with everything else, the cost of living, energy , all the cost of living, energy, all of the cost of living, energy, all et tntt. — the cost of living, energy, all et tntt-tts— the cost of living, energy, all of that. .it's not- the cost of living, energy, all of that. it's not all about of that. but it's not all about tne— of that. but it's not all about tne ttnt— of that. but it's not all about tne ttnt et— of that. but it's not all about the bank of england base rate. it the bank of england base rate. tt-ntwe— the bank of england base rate. tt-ntwelweey— the bank of england base rate. tt-ntwelweey ttt- the bank of england base rate. it have very big effect, it does have a very big effect, ttt— it does have a very big effect, ttt tts— it does have a very big effect, but it's actually— it does have a very big effect, but it's actually the money that entntes— but it's actually the money that entntes ntnts— but it's actually the money that changes hands between the banks. it's changes hands between the banks. tt-s tne— changes hands between the banks. tt-s tne swtp—
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changes hands between the banks. it's the swap rates— changes hands between the banks. it's the swap rates that they teeeew— it's the swap rates that they borrow money _ it's the swap rates that they borrow money from each other at. tntt— borrow money from each other at. tntt nts— borrow money from each other at. tntt nts t— borrow money from each other at. tntt nts t tt— borrow money from each other at. that has a big effect on fixed meettttes— that has a big effect on fixed mortgages, fixed— that has a big effect on fixed mortgages, fixed rate mortgages . tnt— mortgages, fixed rate mortgages . ant we— mortgages, fixed rate mortgages . ant we stw— mortgages, fixed rate mortgages . and we saw that— mortgages, fixed rate mortgages . and we saw that coming down in the . and we saw that coming down in tne ttst— . and we saw that coming down in tne ttst tew— . and we saw that coming down in the last few months. _ . and we saw that coming down in the last few months. and unfortunately— the last few months. and unfortunately in the last month or unfortunately in the last month ee se . tney-we— unfortunately in the last month or so , they've gone back up. so or so, they've gone back up. so tttm— or so, they've gone back up. so ttttn .— or so, they've gone back up. so ttttn . tts— or so, they've gone back up. so again , it's another— or so, they've gone back up. so again , it's another catalyst to again, it's another catalyst to mtte— again, it's another catalyst to mtte ttts— again, it's another catalyst to make this approach to 6. so real tnt— make this approach to 6. so real tnt ttse— make this approach to 6. so real tnt ttse se— make this approach to 6. so real and also so very— make this approach to 6. so real and also so very frightening . and also so very frightening. ttet.— and also so very frightening. tett. sally— and also so very frightening. look, sally, thank— and also so very frightening. look, sally, thank you- and also so very frightening. look, sally, thank you very, very much. sean sweet . but look, sally, thank you very, very much. sean sweet. but i think you hit all the key points there. sally mitchell, the mortgage broker. i mortgage adviser and broker. i don't about but it don't know about you, but it makes deeply angry. makes me deeply, deeply angry. this ordinary people, this the ordinary people, through of their own, through no fault of their own, being left, right being squeezed left, right and centre, now have some centre, can now have some financial bigwig. i mean, those those people at the bank of england they? england are suffering, are they? they're suffering. are they're not suffering. there are millions pounds, millions and millions of pounds, but massive house. but they've got a massive house. i got massive i bet they've got a few massive houses and got houses as well and they got slapped. interest rate up to slapped. the interest rate up to 6. got hunt now 6. you've got jeremy hunt now going, do what going, well, i better do what you do anyway. loads you tell me to do anyway. loads more between now more still to come between now and emerges that more and 4:00 as it emerges that more than now than 10,000 migrants have now crossed this year, crossed the channel this year, we discuss the news we will discuss the news that more than 1000 foreign criminals
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are on run. in fact, 10% of are on the run. in fact, 10% of our population has come our prison population has come from abroad. so thank you very , from abroad. so thank you very, very much. and there's the latest the commons , where latest from the commons, where the the report the mps are debating the report into partygate into boris johnson and partygate . if you care about this, can you email me? because from what i can see so far, is i can see so far, this is a massive , epic, catastrophic massive, epic, catastrophic waste taxpayer time and waste of taxpayer time and money. we have a housing crisis. we've got a borders crisis . we've got a borders crisis. we've got a borders crisis. we've got a borders crisis. we've got everything that's going on in the country at the moment. and we are, moment. and here we are, our politicians, themselves moment. and here we are, our polit whether themselves moment. and here we are, our polit whether or themselves moment. and here we are, our polit whether or not themselves moment. and here we are, our polit whether or not a emselves moment. and here we are, our polit whether or not a bloke ves moment. and here we are, our politwhether or not a bloke ages with whether or not a bloke ages ago bit of cake. but right ago had a bit of cake. but right now as your headlines polly now as your headlines with polly . patrick thank you the headlines. well the house of eeemnens— headlines. well the house of commons has— headlines. well the house of commons has begun- : well the house of commons has begun a debate on the commons has begun a debate on tne eepeet— commons has begun a debate on tne eepeet tntt— commons has begun a debate on the report that found boris tennsen— the report that found boris johnson lied— the report that found boris johnson lied over partygate ettnt— johnson lied over partygate ettnt ttts— johnson lied over partygate eight mps are— johnson lied over partygate eight mps are today deciding wnetnee— eight mps are today deciding wnetnee te— eight mps are today deciding whether to sanction the former tetme — whether to sanction the former prime minister— whether to sanction the former prime minister after the tetwttetes— prime minister after the privileges committee last week tetnt — privileges committee last week tetnt ne — privileges committee last week found he repeatedly misled the netse— found he repeatedly misled the house. commons— found he repeatedly misled the house. commons leader penny tteetttnt— house. commons leader penny mordaunt said— house. commons leader penny mordaunt said minutes ago she wettt— mordaunt said minutes ago she
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wettt wete— mordaunt said minutes ago she wettt wete tn— mordaunt said minutes ago she would vote in favour of the eepeet— would vote in favour of the eepeet tnte— would vote in favour of the report into johnson's conduct. tne— report into johnson's conduct. the committee— report into johnson's conduct. the committee recommended that mr the committee recommended that tte tennsen— the committee recommended that mr johnson should— the committee recommended that mr johnson should face a 90 day mrjohnson should face a 90 day stspent— mrjohnson should face a 90 day stspent teem— mrjohnson should face a 90 day suspend from parliament had he not suspend from parliament had he net eesttnet— suspend from parliament had he not resigned before that ttttement— not resigned before that ttttement .— not resigned before that judgement. but not resigned before that judgement . but however, his judgement. but however, his teetsten— judgement. but however, his teetsten te— judgement. but however, his decision to stand down means mps will decision to stand down means mps wttt ne— decision to stand down means mps wttt ne tettee— decision to stand down means mps will no longer be— decision to stand down means mps will no longer be voting on his ttttee— will no longer be voting on his ttttee tn— will no longer be voting on his future in parliament. number ten stys— future in parliament. number ten stys ttst— future in parliament. number ten says rishi sunak— future in parliament. number ten says rishi sunak will skip the tettte— says rishi sunak will skip the debate because _ says rishi sunak will skip the debate because he doesn't want tnttenee— debate because he doesn't want influence. mps— debate because he doesn't want influence. mps the— debate because he doesn't want influence. mps the us coastguard has influence. mps the us coastguard nts tett— influence. mps the us coastguard nts tett tn— influence. mps the us coastguard has told gb news— influence. mps the us coastguard has told gb news they're coordinating— has told gb news they're coordinating a— has told gb news they're coordinating a search for a mtsstnt— coordinating a search for a missing vessel.— coordinating a search for a missing vessel. but are unable to missing vessel. but are unable te eentem— missing vessel. but are unable te eenttem tny— missing vessel. but are unable to confirm any further details. it to confirm any further details. tt tettews— to confirm any further details. it follows reports— to confirm any further details. it follows reports that a submersible— it follows reports that a submersible taking tourists to the submersible taking tourists to tne stte— submersible taking tourists to tne stte et— submersible taking tourists to the site of the— submersible taking tourists to the site of the titanic wreckage is the site of the titanic wreckage ts new— the site of the titanic wreckage ts mtsstnt— the site of the titanic wreckage is now missing ing more details on is now missing ing more details en tntt— is now missing ing more details en tntt ttst— is now missing ing more details en tntt ttst ts— is now missing ing more details on that just as soon as it comes to on that just as soon as it comes te ts— on that just as soon as it comes te ts tnt— on that just as soon as it comes te ts tnt ts— on that just as soon as it comes to us and as you've— on that just as soon as it comes to us and as you've been tettnt— to us and as you've been hearing, police- to us and as you've been hearing, police have broken up an hearing, police have broken up tn atttnttn— hearing, police have broken up an albanian gang that allegedly teettnt— an albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants— an albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants into the uk on smttt— brought migrants into the uk on smttt tetts. — brought migrants into the uk on small boats. three— brought migrants into the uk on small boats. three members of the small boats. three members of tne eme— small boats. three members of tne teetp— small boats. three members of the crime group were arrested etety— the crime group were arrested etety ttts— the crime group were arrested early this morning by officers teem— early this morning by officers teem tne— early this morning by officers from the national crime agency . from the national crime agency. gb from the national crime agency. tn tews— from the national crime agency. gb news understands the group has gb news understands the group nts teen— gb news understands the group has been charging migrants more tttn— has been charging migrants more tntn smoo— has been charging migrants more tntn tmee t—
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has been charging migrants more than £7,000 a journey and the teeesst— than £7,000 a journey and the arrests come as— than £7,000 a journey and the arrests come as nearly 11,000 tttettt— arrests come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants— arrests come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants have crossed the illegal migrants have crossed tne tntttsn— illegal migrants have crossed the english channel in small tetts— the english channel in small tetts see— the english channel in small boats since the— the english channel in small boats since the beginning of ttts— boats since the beginning of we yete— boats since the beginning of we yete .— boats since the beginning of this year . and— boats since the beginning of this year. and mortgage rates in the this year. and mortgage rates in tne tt— this year. and mortgage rates in tne ttt ntte— this year. and mortgage rates in the uk have reached a new record tttn— the uk have reached a new record nttn ttts— the uk have reached a new record men we yete— the uk have reached a new record men we yete .— the uk have reached a new record high this year , increasing costs high this year, increasing costs for borrowers— high this year, increasing costs for borrowers and— high this year, increasing costs for borrowers and those who'd tte— for borrowers and those who'd tte te— for borrowers and those who'd tte te tty— for borrowers and those who'd tte te tty t— for borrowers and those who'd like to buy a house. a two year ttet— like to buy a house. a two year ttet neme— like to buy a house. a two year fixed home loan.— like to buy a house. a two year fixed home loan. now now has a ette— fixed home loan. now now has a ette et— fixed home loan. now now has a ette et ttst— fixed home loan. now now has a rate of just above— fixed home loan. now now has a rate of just above 6.— fixed home loan. now now has a rate of just above 6. that's teeeettnt— rate of just above 6. that's teeeettnt te— rate of just above 6. that's according to financial firm tteneyttets— according to financial firm tteneyttets .— according to financial firm moneyfacts . and this morning, moneyfacts. and this morning, the moneyfacts. and this morning, tne ttme— moneyfacts. and this morning, the prime minister ruled out any eetet— the prime minister ruled out any extra government— the prime minister ruled out any extra government assistance for netsenetts— extra government assistance for households struggling with ptyments— households struggling with ptyments .— households struggling with payments . those are your latest payments. those are your latest news headlines— payments. those are your latest news headlines .— payments. those are your latest news headlines . more available news headlines. more available by netttnt— news headlines. more available by netttnt te— news headlines. more available by heading to our— news headlines. more available by heading to our website gbnews.com— by heading to our website gbnews.com .— gbnews.com. gb news.com. �*ftns;.. gbnews.com. well, of course, while our mps twist and turn themselves in knots currently in themselves in knots currently in the house of commons talking about whether boris johnson lied to parliament and all of this stuff , interestingly, more
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to parliament and all of this stuff, interestingly, more than 10,000 migrants have crossed the channelin 10,000 migrants have crossed the channel in small boats so far this viewers on gb news this year. viewers on gb news can see some of the asylum seekers in dover seekers who arrived in dover over hello and over the weekend. hello and welcome. thank welcome. wonderful people. thank you very yes. welcome to you very much. yes. welcome to britain. landmark figure was britain. the landmark figure was reached that reached as it emerged that more than a thousand foreign criminals are currently on the run in the uk . they include run in the uk. they include murderers , rapists, terrorists murderers, rapists, terrorists and while one man went into hiding on the day he was due to be sentenced in 2008 because we bailed him after he'd been found guilty of rape , he hasn't been guilty of rape, he hasn't been seen since. he could be anywhere. let's speak about this with a stalwart show, with a stalwart of the show, a regular face here, a lovely chap . it's immigration lawyer hardeep singh bhangal hijab. here he is. good man. yes. how are you ? hi. they're all ts;”ts; good man. t/ts;5 ens; 7’ hi. they're all good. are you? hi. they're all good. teet— are you? hi. they're all good. eeet. tettnt— are you? hi. they're all good. eeet. tttnt — are you? hi. they're all good. good. right okay,- are you? hi. they're all good. good. right okay, so- ens; tst.7 hi. they're all good. good. right oseg ti.ee . good. right okay, so why can't we just deport foreign nationals who are found guilty of a serious offence ? well, we should serious offence? well, we should do. serious offence? well, we should te. t— serious offence? well, we should te. t metn— serious offence? well, we should do. i mean, under— serious offence? well, we should do. i mean, under the.- eti.ts;7’ well, we should do. i mean, under the. under the nw— do. i mean, under the. under the ttw. anyene— do. i mean, under the. under the law. anyone convicted of more tttn— law. anyone convicted of more tntn tz— law. anyone convicted of more than 12 months— law. anyone convicted of more than 12 months should be subject
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to than 12 months should be subject te tttemtte— than 12 months should be subject to automatic deportation. but wntt— to automatic deportation. but wntt ntppens— to automatic deportation. but what happens is— to automatic deportation. but what happens is when they finish their sentences , for some their sentences, for some reason, the home office don't turn up on that day and take them into immigration detention. so they let out on bail and many of them abscond, as you've said , and are never caught again or don't come to until they don't come to light until they are caught again, or whether they've , you they've re—offended or, you know, whether they're caught just off the cuff by skipping a light or whatever. but it's immigration who really needs to be taking these people into detention removing detention and then removing them. again, patrick, them. and once again, patrick, that's what we talk about nearly every the number of every week. why the number of removals government removals under this government over the past years has gone over the past 13 years has gone down from 60,000 to less than, you know, 3000 a year. it's just not good enough. but this is steety— not good enough. but this is steety tn— not good enough. but this is steety tn etsy— not good enough. but this is surely an easy win.- g: e; g but this is surely an easy win. okay. if you te— surely an easy win. okay. if you te ttts— surely an easy win. okay. if you come to this country and you etpe— come to this country and you etpe semetety— come to this country and you rape somebody instead of going to rape somebody instead of going te petsen— rape somebody instead of going te petsen. yet— rape somebody instead of going te petsen. yet get— rape somebody instead of going to prison, you get deported . to prison, you get deported. cowo— to prison, you get deported. eovtt wnye— to prison, you get deported. covm why? why to prison, you get deported. covid why? why are we even in a sttttten— covid why? why are we even in a situation where _ covid why? why are we even in a situation where we— covid why? why are we even in a situation where we go , well, situation where we go, well, yete — situation where we go, well, yete teen— situation where we go, well, you've been found guilty of this wett— you've been found guilty of this crime, we'll bail— you've been found guilty of this crime, we'll bail you until if you— crime, we'll bail you until if yet wtnt—
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crime, we'll bail you until if yet wtnt te— crime, we'll bail you until if you want to come back at some petnt.— you want to come back at some petnt. wett— you want to come back at some point, we'll send— you want to come back at some point, we'll send you to prison . se— point, we'll send you to prison . so obviously,— point, we'll send you to prison . so obviously, they don't come ttet— . so obviously, they don't come ttet .— . so obviously, they don't come ttet . tnt— . so obviously, they don't come ttet . ant wny— . so obviously, they don't come back . and why are— . so obviously, they don't come back . and why are we even back. and why are we even tettnt— back. and why are we even tettnt tt— back. and why are we even tetttnt tt tet— back. and why are we even letting it get to— back. and why are we even letting it get to that stage? vet-we— letting it get to that stage? you've - arrested - letting it get to that stage? you've arrested for you've been arrested for semetttnt— you've been arrested for semetett— you've been arrested for sometof something a plane. guilty of something on a plane. tneee— guilty of something on a plane. tnee—tett- guilty of something on a plane. tnee—tett. i there you go back to iraq. tett.— there you go back to iraq. vett- ant— there you go back to iraq. yeah. and what— there you go back to iraq. yeah. and what happens is, if you're found guilty of something, then whether you've committed the crime, you have to serve the sentence. so they serve the sentence. so they serve sentence here. serve their sentence here. but it's that when the it's at that point when the sentence served that sentence has been served that they need to be put on a plane and sent back and it's not if and sent back and it's not as if the office doesn't have the home office doesn't have time to deport if time to deport them. if someone's ten someone's sentenced for ten years, the home office has ten years, the home office has ten years arrange for that years to arrange for that paperwork to be sent back. it's not as home office hasn't paperwork to be sent back. it's not any home office hasn't paperwork to be sent back. it's not any notice.tme office hasn't paperwork to be sent back. it's not any notice. it's office hasn't paperwork to be sent back. it's not any notice. it's not ce hasn't paperwork to be sent back. it's not any notice. it's not like asn't got any notice. it's not like they find on wednesday they just find out on wednesday that someone's to be that someone's going to be released thursday. they've released on thursday. they've known for ten years that this person for rape or person sentenced for rape or whatever going to be released whatever is going to be released on this date. and that they need to everything ready . yeah, to have everything ready. yeah, it's example the it's just another example of the home being and the home office being broken and the failings under the system where they can't deport these people who've convicted and they who've been convicted and they should rightly deported.
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should be rightly deported. however, due to the home office not being able to deport them , not being able to deport them, then can't keep them then the jail can't keep them longer than their prison sentence. they have no other sentence. so they have no other opfion sentence. so they have no other option to bail them out and option but to bail them out and say, right, you have to come back or go to report . but back or go to your report. but this report to an this is this report to an immigration office. but this is part it. immigration office. but this is ptetlttltnese— immigration office. but this is part.it..those are- immigration office. but this is part.it..those are the- part of it. so those are the peepte— part of it. so those are the people-actually- people who've actually we've tettttty— people who've actually we've actually—containl actually managed to contain wttntn— actually managed to contain wttntn t— actually managed to contain wttntn t-et— actually managed to contain within a-of our- actually managed to contain within a of our prison within a prison of our prison pepttttten.— population. 10% of those people are-nationals— population. 10% of those people are nationals which are foreign nationals, which is ttsetttety— are foreign nationals, which is absolutely staggering. however, tneee— absolutely staggering. however, there-currently— absolutely staggering. however, there currently 1094 foreign there are currently 1094 foreign nttentts— there are currently 1094 foreign nationals that— there are currently 1094 foreign nationals that we're aware of wne— nationals that we're aware of wne te— nationals that we're aware of who are currently— nationals that we're aware of who are currently on the run. tnt— who are currently on the run. ant tnese— who are currently on the run. and those do _ who are currently on the run. and those do include i'll read tneettn— and those do include i'll read tneettn seme— and those do include i'll read through some of— and those do include i'll read through some of the facts here. tew— through some of the facts here. new tet— through some of the facts here. now we've got five murderers and 38 now we've got five murderers and st wetent— now we've got five murderers and 38 violent offenders, five terrorists, _ 38 violent offenders, five terrorists, 11— 38 violent offenders, five terrorists, 11 rapists, several tnt— terrorists, 11 rapists, several tnt ts— terrorists, 11 rapists, several and 13 other— terrorists, 11 rapists, several and 13 other sex— terrorists, 11 rapists, several and 13 other sex offenders as wett— and 13 other sex offenders as wet ts— and 13 other sex offenders as wet ts sts— and 13 other sex offenders as well as 352 people who've been tetnt— well as 352 people who've been tetnt ttttty— well as 352 people who've been tetnt ttttty et— well as 352 people who've been found guilty of being parts of tett— found guilty of being parts of tett ttnts— found guilty of being parts of drug gangs, including smuggling ntte— drug gangs, including smuggling ntte tttntttes— drug gangs, including smuggling huge quantities of cocaine and teeem— huge quantities of cocaine and teen tnte— huge quantities of cocaine and heroin into the— huge quantities of cocaine and heroin into the country . so heroin into the country. so tnese— heroin into the country. so tnese peepte— heroin into the country. so these people just disappear. i mean, presumably once we've etttnt— mean, presumably once we've etttnt ttem— mean, presumably once we've etttnt tnem .— mean, presumably once we've caught them , if— mean, presumably once we've caught them , if we catch them
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caught them, if we catch them tnt— caught them, if we catch them tnt we— caught them, if we catch them tnt we tten— caught them, if we catch them and we then know, can we then tepeet— and we then know, can we then tepeet ttem— and we then know, can we then deport them then— and we then know, can we then deport them then or do they sttt— deport them then or do they stttt ntte— deport them then or do they still have to— deport them then or do they still have to serve a prison sentence here? - still have to serve a prison sentence here? netnt still have to serve a prison sentence here? mn i still have to serve a prison sentence here? ntstnt�* i sentence here? now, once you catch them, you can deport them. the problem is we don't have return agreements with a lot of countries. so a lot of countries won't take people back or they won't take people back or they won't take people back or they won't take them back to where initially they've claimed asylum or something like that . the fact or something like that. the fact the fact is that we do have a system that was in place and it should be being used, but it's not being being used. this government talks tough but delivers . we know delivers very little. we know that, patrick, and this is not the the home office the first thing the home office has it messes has messed up. it messes up nearly we have this nearly every week. we have this conversation every every couple of so what what else has of weeks. so what what else has a office messed up now? and a home office messed up now? and this be this is something that should be happening. suella braverman and priti her. and you priti patel before her. and you know, theresa may before her. they haven't delivered on the promises . you're saying you're promises. you're saying you're saying the immigration card every election. but what is it delivered its track record. it's actually getting much worse. i mean, it's actually getting ntt— mean, it's actually getting worse. but but— mean, it's actually getting
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worse. but but what you are stytnt— worse. but but what you are stytntlyete— worse. but but what you are saying your capacity as an saying in your capacity as an tmmttetten— saying in your capacity as an- immigration—moment immigration lawyer at the moment is immigration lawyer at the moment ts-tneee— immigration lawyer at the moment ts-tneee ts— immigration lawyer at the moment ts-tneee ts ne— immigration lawyer at the moment is-there is no need— immigration lawyer at the moment is there is no need for is that there is no need for tnneeent— is that there is no need for innocent british- is that there is no need for innocent british people to be wtnteetnt— innocent british people to be wandering around the street and wtttnt— wandering around the street and wtttnt te— wandering around the street and wttttnt te tttt— wandering around the street and waiting to fall victim to known wetent— waiting to fall victim to known violent foreign— waiting to fall victim to known violent foreign offenders who are violent foreign offenders who teen— violent foreign offenders who are been found— violent foreign offenders who are been found guilty of crimes wne— are been found guilty of crimes wne te— are been found guilty of crimes who are on the— are been found guilty of crimes who are on the run. there is tntt— who are on the run. there is more that could— who are on the run. there is more that could be done. it's net— more that could be done. it's net ts— more that could be done. it's net ts tnettn— more that could be done. it's not as though our— more that could be done. it's not as though our hands are tied teetse— not as though our hands are tied teetse yet— not as though our hands are tied because you mentioned there ttett— because you mentioned there ttett wete— because you mentioned there about we're having about we're just not having eettm— return agreements. so if we ten-t— return agreements. so if we don't-return- return agreements. so if we don't return agreements, don't have return agreements, tnese— don't have return agreements, tnese peepte— don't have return agreements, these people from countries these people come from countries wneee— these people come from countries weeeeetmn—t- where we don't have return tteeements— where we don't have return agreements just where we don't have return- agreements_just stuck agreements to. are we just stuck wttn—teettse- agreements to. are we just stuck with _ because you - agreements to. are we just stuck with because you can with them? no, because you can ttwtys— with them? no, because you can ttwtys sent— with them? no, because you can always send them— with them? no, because you can always send them back to the eetntey— always send them back to the eetntey tntt— always send them back to the country that they— always send them back to the country that they have initially always send them back to the countifrom t they have initially always send them back to the countifrom orhey have initially always send them back to the countifrom or theirave initially always send them back to the countifrom or their nationality' come from or their nationality tetty— come from or their nationality ttetty ts. — come from or their nationality motty is. .what- come from or their nationality motty is. come from or their nationality- motty is. .what happens is you motty is. so what happens is you can send back, but the can send them back, but the government are just so inept . government are just so inept. what about these barges? why can't we house these people on them ? why the ascension them? why can't the ascension detention centre? yeah, yeah, exactly . there's enough there is exactly. there's enough there is enough facilities in there. the home office hasn't really got a clue. it's being led by people who doesn't , who don't have
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who doesn't, who don't have a clue. and the home office staff are just as frustrated as the normal person is. these people shouldn't be roaming free on the street and they should have been sent back. and the home office have plenty of notice. it's have had plenty of notice. it's just , i'm afraid. just not working, i'm afraid. no, it's not. when you look at tne— no, it's not. when you look at tne-tntt— no, it's not. when you look at the-that we've— no, it's not. when you look at the-that we've-hit- the fact that we've just hit ten k the fact that we've just hit ten t-eemtnt— the fact that we've just hit ten k-coming across- the fact that we've just hit ten k coming across the k people coming across the entnnet— k people coming across the channel this— k people coming across the channel this year, that is etwtetsty— channel this year, that is obviously-rise- obviously set to rise significantly by the end of this yete.— significantly by the end of this yete. we-we— significantly by the end of this yete. we-we tet— significantly by the end of this year. we've got 1094 foreign eetmtntts— year. we've got 1094 foreign criminals on— year. we've got 1094 foreign criminals on the— year. we've got 1094 foreign criminals on the run. 10% of our entee— criminals on the run. 10% of our enttee petsen— criminals on the run. 10% of our entire prison population we've mtnttet— entire prison population we've mtnttet te— entire prison population we've managed to import to this eetntey.— managed to import to this country, which— managed to import to this country, which is fantastic et— country, which is fantastic news. of course- country, which is fantastic news. of course , we're also news. of course, we're also seetnt— news. of course, we're also seeing massive _ news. of course, we're also seeing massive issues with seettt— seeing massive issues with social housing— seeing massive issues with social housing stock. et cetera. steety. — social housing stock. et cetera. steety. steety— social housing stock. et cetera. surely. surely surely it is well wttntn— surely. surely surely it is well wttntn tne— surely. surely surely it is well within the parameters of a teweenment— within the parameters of a government to— within the parameters of a government to actually pump a lot-resources— government to actually pump a lot resources money into lot of resources and money into tettnt— lot of resources and money into tetnt—et- lot of resources and money into getting of deportation getting some kind of deportation tttms.— getting some kind of deportation tttnts. ttttnt— getting some kind of deportation flights, taking off.- getting some kind of deportation flights, taking off. i mean, it is flights, taking off. i mean, it ts stttteetnt— flights, taking off. i mean, it is staggering to— flights, taking off. i mean, it is staggering to me that they're flights, taking off. i mean, it is s'actually] to me that they're flights, taking off. i mean, it is s'actually] to mtthatt they're flights, taking off. i mean, it is s'actually] to mtthat in hey're flights, taking off. i mean, it is s'actually] to mtthat in these not actually doing that in these . tts— not actually doing that in these etse. tts-t— not actually doing that in these cases. it's-i mean,- not actually doing that in these cases. it's i mean, at what cases. it's just i mean, at what petnt— cases. it's just i mean, at what petnt-tt— cases. it's just i mean, at what petnt-t sttet— cases. it's just i mean, at what point-it start to- cases. it's just i mean, at what point it start to look like point does it start to look like a deliberate _ point does it start to look like a deliberate thing to keep wetent— a deliberate thing to keep violent nationals in the violent foreign nationals in the eetntey?— violent foreign nationals in the eetnteye-t— violent foreign nationals in the country?-i think- violent foreign nationals in the country? i think we have country? well, i think we have to country? well, i think we have te eensttee— country? well, i think we have to consider that— country? well, i think we have to consider that this is a
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deliberate— to consider that this is a deliberate thing. e deliberate thing. this has been mismanaged deliberately in order to play the card at the election, because it just seems to be the only sort of card that the conservatives the the conservatives have at the moment. there is no way moment. i mean, there is no way that can that the conservatives can explain how labour were doing, sending 60,000 people back and how they've the tories have managed to bring it down to 3000. i would love for anyone from the home office or any minister or mp to come and explain on that on news explain on that on this news channel. they don't do that. we've that for we've been telling that for years. do that years. they don't do that because you have to because then you have to consider country , does consider does this country, does this government have the political will to be actually sending which the sending these, which is the waste well? i just waste of money as well? i just want say to at the want to say to us, look at the small small small boats. look at the small boats. a thousand people boats. i mean, a thousand people came despite came this weekend despite all the despite the the pandering, despite all the deterrent . it's working, deterrent. it's not working, is it, patrick? it's clearly not working. no, it's not working. ant— working. no, it's not working. antltteee— working. no, it's not working. antltteee-yet- eg no, it's not working. and agree you completely and i agree with you completely tntt.— and i agree with you completely tntt. yet— and i agree with you completely tntt. yet mew.— and i agree with you completely that, you know, clearly it does tppete— that, you know, clearly it does tppete-ts- that, you know, clearly it doesi tppete-ts-ttnt appear that there is some kind of_deliberate- appear that there is some kind of deliberate going on of something deliberate going on neee.— of something deliberate going on neee. teetse— of something deliberate going on here, because otherwise, mean, here, because otherwise, i mean, it here, because otherwise, i mean, tt—tneempetentl it cannot be this incompetent. ttts— it cannot be this incompetent. tntslt— it cannot be this incompetent. tntslt metn— it cannot be this incompetent. this-i mean,-it- it cannot be this incompetent. this-i mean,-it is.. this is i mean, maybe it is. tttyte— this is i mean, maybe it is. tttyte-tee— this is i mean, maybe it is. maybe-are-this. maybe they are just this
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incompetent.— maybe they are just this. incompetent.-to maybe they are just this- incompetent.-to think incompetent. but i like to think mtyte— incompetent. but i like to think mtyte .— incompetent. but i like to think mtyte . mtyte— incompetent. but i like to think maybe , maybe they're maybe, maybe that they're not ttts— maybe, maybe that they're not this incompetent— maybe, maybe that they're not this incompetent and that there maybe, maybe that they're not thjust competent and that there maybe, maybe that they're not thjust something and that there maybe, maybe that they're not thjust something deliberate.ere is just something deliberate. ntt— is just something deliberate. ttt tt— is just something deliberate. ttt tt-petnt- is just something deliberate. but at-point-up.l is just something deliberate.- but at-point-up. and but at some point hard up. and i stspeet— but at some point hard up. and i stspeetitee— but at some point hard up. and i suspect are hurtling towards suspect we are hurtling towards tntt— suspect we are hurtling towards that situation _ suspect we are hurtling towards that situation at— suspect we are hurtling towards that situation at some point, tney— that situation at some point, tney-ntte— that situation at some point, they have something they do have to do something teetse— they do have to do something teetse tt— they do have to do something because it gets— they do have to do something because it gets the stage now because it gets to the stage now wneee—teet- where we're sick and tired of tettnt— where we're sick and tired of netetntitnts— where we're sick and tired of hearing this election. hearing all this at an election. teen-t— hearing all this at an election. teen-t wee— hearing all this at an election. aren't we? we're— hearing all this at an election. aren't we? we're sick and tired of aren't we? we're sick and tired et tt— aren't we? we're sick and tired et tt-we-ee— aren't we? we're sick and tired of it.-we're-only- of it. well, we're the only party— party now that could do tnytttnt— party now that could do anything. look anything. and then people look wett— anything. and then people look wet-t— anything. and then people look wett-t-tt- anything. and then people look wett-t-tt tsl well, hang on a minute. it is ttteettty— well, hang on a minute. it is literally-than- well, hang on a minute. it is literally than ever literally worse than it's ever been —yeti literally worse than it's ever- teen. —yet weey been. hodge up. thank you very mten— been. hodge up. thank you very nten-my— been. hodge up. thank you very mten-my teet- been. hodge up. thank you very much my good man. thank much as ever, my good man. thank yet.— much as ever, my good man. thank yet-ettt— much as ever, my good man. thank yet-ienttlyet— much as ever, my good man. thank you. chat you probably you. i'll chat to you probably teeneeeew -tp- you. i'll chat to you probably- tomorrow. _up-there tomorrow. hodge up single there in tomorrow. hodge up single there tn—snew.— tomorrow. hodge up single there in_show. stalwart. in front of the show. stalwart tmmttetten— immigration lawyer. now, that's ttsetnttnt— fascinating, isn't it? because in fascinating, isn't it? because tnw—e- fascinating, isn't it? because tnw—e spetel fascinating, isn't it? because- in _we spoke about in the first hour we spoke about it in the first hour we spoke about tt—tne— in the first hour we spoke about tt—tne pteety- it from the just the purely eetmtntt— it from the just the purely. criminal_ how criminal side of things. how mtny— criminal side of things. how. mtnyte— many foreign criminals we are tmpeetnt— many foreign criminals we are importing country. many foreign criminals we are importing country . and importing into this country. and we-teeptnt— importing into this country. and we-keeping track- importing into this country. and we keeping track you we are not keeping track of you ntt— we are not keeping track of you had-immigration— we are not keeping track of you had immigration lawyer there had an immigration lawyer there wne— had an immigration lawyer there wne-sttt— had an immigration lawyer there who-said there- who basically said there is ttsetttety— who basically said there is absolutely-whyl who basically said there is. absolutely-why we absolutely no reason why we etn-t— absolutely no reason why we etnt-ptt— absolutely no reason why we can't-put these- absolutely no reason why we can't put these people on can't just put these people on pttnes— can't just put these people on pttnes-tnem- can't just put these people on planes-them off- planes and get them off somewhere— planes and get them off somewhere the planes and get them off. somewhere-the-or planes and get them off- somewhere .the _or or at somewhere in the world or or at tetst— somewhere in the world or or at tetst-ttem— somewhere in the world or or at least them somewhere. that least house them somewhere. that is least house them somewhere. that ts net— least house them somewhere. that ts net tn— least house them somewhere. that ts net tn et— least house them somewhere. that is not in our main— least house them somewhere. that is not in our main prison pepttttten.— is not in our main prison population. excuse me . anyway. population. excuse me. anyway. tettnt— population. excuse me. anyway. tttnt. ttts— population. excuse me. anyway. tttnt. ttts te— population. excuse me. anyway. right. mps are debating the ttetyttte— right. mps are debating the partygate report right now . is partygate report right now. is ttts— partygate report right now. is tnts tnttty— partygate report right now. is this finally going to be end this finally going to be the end of this finally going to be the end etle— this finally going to be the end ofl? 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what's she doing now? join me every sunday at 6:00 for gloria meets. only on . gb news. yes. meets. only on. gb news. yes. wett— meets. only on. gb news. yes. well, as it emerges that british people will be prioritised over migrants potentially when it comes to council housing. in the next hour, i'm going to be asking whether brits should be given treatment given preferential treatment when it comes everything. when it comes to everything. doctors other doctors appointments, other essential . i think they essential services. i think they should. no for
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should. i make no excuses for that. boris johnson is that. but boris johnson is celebrating his 59th birthday that. but boris johnson is celebrehopefully9th birthday that. but boris johnson is celebrehopefully he birthday that. but boris johnson is celebrehopefully he can hday that. but boris johnson is celebrehopefully he can have today. hopefully he can have a cake in peace this time. but mps could give him a present. he definitely they're definitely doesn't want. they're debating report debating the partygate report that found johnson that found that johnson deliberately misled parliament. i'm by former i'm joined now by former conservative louise mensch . conservative mp louise mensch. louise, thank you very, very much this of much. is this a waste of taxpayers time and money, do you think ? oh, absolutely . and i think? oh, absolutely. and i think, honestly,— think? oh, absolutely. and i think, honestly, this- es7 oe .ts;.g and i think, honestly, this committee has overreached _ think, honestly, this committee has overreached so far. they've ttmest— has overreached so far. they've ttmest tene— has overreached so far. they've almost gone into— has overreached so far. they've almost gone into space. you've tteetty— almost gone into space. you've tteetty netet— almost gone into space. you've already heard loads of conservative- already heard loads of conservative mps saying that tney— conservative mps saying that tney wettt— conservative mps saying that they would have— conservative mps saying that they would have voted against it. they would have voted against tt. appteentty— they would have voted against it. apparently boris has asked tnem — it. apparently boris has asked tnem net— it. apparently boris has asked tnem net te— it. apparently boris has asked them not to bother. it's just going— them not to bother. it's just tetnt te— them not to bother. it's just tetnt te te— them not to bother. it's just going to go through on the nod. but going to go through on the nod. ttt tne— going to go through on the nod. ttt tne ttet— going to go through on the nod. but the fact that— going to go through on the nod. but the fact that the conservatives aren't really even ttttnt— conservatives aren't really even ttttnt ptn— conservatives aren't really even ttttnt ptet tn— conservatives aren't really even taking part in this— conservatives aren't really even taking part in this shows that if parliament's— taking part in this shows that if parliament's been brought tnte— if parliament's been brought into contempt— if parliament's been brought into contempt ,— if parliament's been brought into contempt , it's the if parliament's been brought into contempt, it's the members of into contempt, it's the members et-eemmtttee— into contempt, it's the members of committee who've brought of this committee who've brought it of this committee who've brought tt—neets- it into contempt, not boris tennsen. — it into contempt, not boris tennsen. t— it into contempt, not boris johnson. i mean , why on earth, johnson. i mean, why on earth, wnen— johnson. i mean, why on earth, when we've just— johnson. i mean, why on earth, when we've just spoken there ttett— when we've just spoken there ttett t— when we've just spoken there about a housing— when we've just spoken there about a housing crisis, about a mttetten— about a housing crisis, about a migration crisis,— about a housing crisis, about a migration crisis, about a etsts— migration crisis, about a eetts-tt- migration crisis, about a crisis,-it comes. migration crisis, about a crisis, it comes to migration crisis, about a- crisis,-it comes to foreign crisis, when it comes to foreign nttentts— crisis, when it comes to foreign nationals walking— crisis, when it comes to foreign nationals walking the streets of nettttn— britain in this country, we've got— britain in this country, we've
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tet eneety— britain in this country, we've got energy issues. tgtst. got energy issues. we've got all sets— got energy issues. we've got all sorts mortgage rates, crisis and rmt mps who we pay their wages are currently having the umpteenth debate about partygate in the house of commons. do you think that the british public have a right to say stop it ? think that the british public have a right to say stop it? i really do, honestly and i think these people are frankly a little bit obsessed with boris johnson. he little bit obsessed with boris johnson . he was turfed out as johnson. he was turfed out as ttme— johnson. he was turfed out as prime minister— johnson. he was turfed out as prime minister fine.- ee he was turfed out as prime minister fine. he's gone. we-we— prime minister fine. he's gone. we-we ntt— prime minister fine. he's gone. we-we ntt twe— prime minister fine. he's gone. we've had two prime ministers see— we've had two prime ministers tten— we've had two prime ministers since then. and— we've had two prime ministers since then. and as— we've had two prime ministers since then. and as a tory, i eeteet— since then. and as a tory, i eeteet te— since then. and as a tory, i eeteet te sty— since then. and as a tory, i regret to say that rishi sunak is regret to say that rishi sunak ts tettnt— regret to say that rishi sunak is trailing disastrously in the pets. — is trailing disastrously in the pets. te— is trailing disastrously in the polls. he could— is trailing disastrously in the polls. he could have put a stop to polls. he could have put a stop te ttts— polls. he could have put a stop te tnts tt— polls. he could have put a stop te tnts tt tny— polls. he could have put a stop to this at any time,— polls. he could have put a stop to this at any time, but he is teteemtnet— to this at any time, but he is determined to— to this at any time, but he is determined to go— to this at any time, but he is determined to go through with it, determined to go through with p, etwtetsty— determined to go through with it, obviously, because he is ttett— it, obviously, because he is ttett-tetnt- it, obviously, because he is. afraid-goingllose afraid that he's going to lose tne— afraid that he's going to lose the-election.— afraid that he's going to lose the election. boris the next election. and boris tennsen— the next election. and boris tennsen-t- the next election. and boris. johnson-a comeback the next election. and boris- johnson-a comeback . johnson will make a comeback. ttte— johnson will make a comeback. ttte yet— johnson will make a comeback. ette yet sttt.— johnson will make a comeback. like you said, there's real tntnts— like you said, there's real things that's— like you said, there's real things that's going in things that's going on in peepte-s—ti things that's going on in- peepte-s—t eest people's lives. there's a cost of people's lives. there's a cost et—tneee-s- people's lives. there's a cost et—tneee-s t- of living crisis. there's a smttt— of living crisis. there's a small boats— of living crisis. there's a small boats crisis. honestly, teent— small boats crisis. honestly, tent tney— small boats crisis. honestly, aren't they just— small boats crisis. honestly, aren't they just a little bit teeet— aren't they just a little bit teeet et— aren't they just a little bit bored of hearing the sound of tnete— bored of hearing the sound of tnete ewn— bored of hearing the sound of their own voices— bored of hearing the sound of their own voices on this issue? twe— their own voices on this issue? we eett— their own voices on this issue? we eett-eepeet- their own voices on this issue? we eett-eepeet .- their own voices on this issue? i've read report . i've sat i've read this report. i've sat on i've read this report. i've sat en t stmttte— i've read this report. i've sat on a similar committee and i can tett— on a similar committee and i can tett yet.— on a similar committee and i can tett yet. t— on a similar committee and i can tell you, i thought— on a similar committee and i can tell you, i thought this report was an unbelievably piece
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was an unbelievably shoddy piece of was an unbelievably shoddy piece et week— was an unbelievably shoddy piece et weet tn— was an unbelievably shoddy piece of work in which— was an unbelievably shoddy piece of work in which spite and pettness— of work in which spite and pettiness jumps out from every stntte— pettiness jumps out from every stntte ptte— pettiness jumps out from every stntte ptte. tney— pettiness jumps out from every single page. they had no facts at single page. they had no facts tt ttt.— single page. they had no facts tt ttt. tnt— single page. they had no facts at all, and all— single page. they had no facts at all, and all the— single page. they had no facts at all, and all the report is ttem— at all, and all the report is ten stytnp— at all, and all the report is them saying, well, boris johnson sttt— them saying, well, boris johnson sttt ttts.— them saying, well, boris johnson said this. these— them saying, well, boris johnson said this. these other guys said tntt.— said this. these other guys said tntt. tnt— said this. these other guys said tntt. ant we— said this. these other guys said that. and we don't— said this. these other guys said that. and we don't believe boris tennsen. — that. and we don't believe boris johnson. that's— that. and we don't believe boris johnson. that's not— that. and we don't believe boris johnson. that's not a report. tntt-s— johnson. that's not a report. tntt-s ttst— johnson. that's not a report. that's just vengeance. it's wentettt— that's just vengeance. it's wentettt .— that's just vengeance. it's vendetta , madness. it's spite , vendetta, madness. it's spite, ttstness— vendetta, madness. it's spite, nastiness. and _ vendetta, madness. it's spite, nastiness. and i— vendetta, madness. it's spite, nastiness. and i think the nettsn— nastiness. and i think the british people— nastiness. and i think the british people have got better tttnes— british people have got better tntnts te— british people have got better tntnts te te— british people have got better things to do than listen to this all things to do than listen to this ttt tty. — things to do than listen to this ttt tty. vett— things to do than listen to this all day. yeah, a— things to do than listen to this all day. / ”tssnst. things to do than listen to this all day. / things to do than listen to this all day. “tse e ”tiiibiit. all day. yeah, a report that was written largely a who'd written largely by a woman who'd already called boris johnson a liar alongside a bloke who may or may not have broken the lockdown rules a worse lockdown rules in a worse way than anyway and than boris johnson. anyway and now being discussed in parliament, despite the fact that boris johnson already that boris johnson has already said stand to be that boris johnson has already sai mp stand to be that boris johnson has already sai mp . stand to be that boris johnson has already sai mp . i stand to be that boris johnson has already sai mp . i mean, stand to be that boris johnson has already sai mp . i mean, it's:and to be that boris johnson has already sai mp . i mean, it's absolutely an mp. i mean, it's absolutely bonkers. louise just one more question quickly for you. when are back and are you going to come back and run what have i run the country? what have i ever done to you? that's why tntt-s— ever done to you? that's why tntt-s my— ever done to you? that's why that's my question.- : tst.7 that's why that's my question. what have i tene te— that's my question. what have i ever done to you?— that's my question. what have i ever done to you? honestly, who wettt— ever done to you? honestly, who wettt wtnt— ever done to you? honestly, who would want that— ever done to you? honestly, who would want that job? if you see wntt— would want that job? if you see wntt ntppens— would want that job? if you see what happens to— would want that job? if you see what happens to politicians that try what happens to politicians that tty-t— what happens to politicians that try-a difference- what happens to politicians that try-a difference . - what happens to politicians that try a difference . try to make a difference. all ttnt.— try to make a difference. all ttnt. eettse.— try to make a difference. all right, louise, thank you very,
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very you on very much. to great have you on the sorry was a bit the show. sorry it was a bit short and sweet. we've got a lot to fit in. louise former to fit in. louise mensch, former conservative let's conservative mp. right. let's bnng bring you a couple of stories involving the controversial topic of and children topic of schools and children and gender. rishi and trans and gender. rishi sunak bringing in a new sunak is bringing in a new policy that means schools will sunak is bringing in a new po|forcedit means schools will sunak is bringing in a new po|forced to neans schools will sunak is bringing in a new po|forced to tell|s schools will sunak is bringing in a new po|forced to tell parents.s will sunak is bringing in a new po|forced to tell parents if will be forced to tell parents if students their students are questioning their gender emerged that a gender as it's emerged that a teacher has branded year teacher has branded a 13 year old despicable because she old girl despicable because she refused accept that her refused to accept that her classmate is now cat. joining classmate is now a cat. joining me now is peter williams, is the director of family education director of the family education trust. thank you very trust. peter thank you very much. first things first. should teachers be making pupils accept that is a cat? that their classmate is a cat? certainly not. and this is stmpty—et- certainly not. and this is simply—of the simply illustrative of the institutional— simply illustrative of the institutional capture of schools ttnt— institutional capture of schools right-department- institutional capture of schools right department of right up to the department of tttetten— right up to the department of education, actually, of radical tettee— education, actually, of radical gender ideology.— education, actually, of radical gender ideology. and unfortunately, is gender ideology. and- unfortunately,-is actually unfortunately, this is actually expeesstnt— unfortunately, this is actually expeesstnt-tn- unfortunately, this is actually expressing in another expressing itself now in another ttnt— expressing itself now in another ttntlwetet— expressing itself now in another kind.weird.of_ expressing itself now in another kind weird of having kind of weird fad of having ttmes— kind of weird fad of having furries actually— kind of weird fad of having furries actually in our institution— furries actually in our institution ,- furries actually in our institution , we actually have institution, we actually have some cases of— institution, we actually have some cases of people who have eepeetet— some cases of people who have eepeetet te— some cases of people who have eepeetet te ts— some cases of people who have reported to us that— some cases of people who have reported to us that there are eetttn— reported to us that there are eeetttn te— reported to us that there are certain to two— reported to us that there are certain to two guys, two lads, 16 certain to two guys, two lads, t .tt. — certain to two guys, two lads, te-tt. se— certain to two guys, two lads, 16 .14. so fifth - certain to two guys, two lads, 16 .14. so fifth form . certain to two guys, two lads, 16 and 14. so fifth form and third form and they've got four girls in the third form and
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fifth form who who identify as cats something like that. so cats or something like that. so furries someone who furries being someone who identifies an animal, one identifies as an animal, one girl not wash because she girl does not wash because she thinks her body is an ecosystem like i'll you like an animal. and i'll let you imagine consequences of imagine what the consequences of that are. we've got another girl imagine what the consequences of that barksle've got another girl imagine what the consequences of that barksle've growls other girl imagine what the consequences of that barksle've growls at|er girl imagine what the consequences of that barksle've growls at her|irl who barks and growls at her fellow students. oh, is that my ex are of cases ex? so there are lots of cases of this, unfortunately, not just in one school here, but actually across the system where we're actually doing encouraging actually doing is encouraging children to think of themselves in are divergent from in a way that are divergent from reality. if there's any reality. and if there's any purpose it is to purpose to a school, it is to teach children to actually recognise reality and facts and to have a form of self identification that actually is in keeping with their flourishing, not contrary to it as clearly would be. and as this clearly would be. and i'll play this clip a- as this clearly would be. and i'll play this clip a little. i : and i'll play this clip a little bit tttee— i'll play this clip a little bit tttee en— i'll play this clip a little bit tttee en tn— i'll play this clip a little bit later on in the— i'll play this clip a little bit later on in the show, it later on in the show, but it is tne— later on in the show, but it is tne-tttne- later on in the show, but it is the-havinglstand. the teacher having a stand up -eye— the teacher having a stand up -eye 8— the teacher having a stand up -eye 8 ee- the teacher having a stand up row-year 8 or 9- the teacher having a stand up row year 8 or 9 pupil row with a year 8 or 9 pupil ttett— row with a year 8 or 9 pupil about whether— row with a year 8 or 9 pupil about whether or not that that pese— about whether or not that that person considered person should be considered a catt— person should be considered a ett-ts— person should be considered a ett-ts ttst— person should be considered a cat, is just bonkers. cat, which is just bonkers. and the cat, which is just bonkers. andi tne—ptptt the consequences for that pupil te— the consequences for that pupil te te— the consequences for that pupil were to be threatened to be expettet — were to be threatened to be expelled from _ were to be threatened to be expelled from the school to expelled from the school and to be expelled from the school and to te-te— expelled from the school and to te-te tne— expelled from the school and to be to the headmaster be reported to the headmaster for be reported to the headmaster tee net— be reported to the headmaster for not believing— be reported to the headmaster for not believing that that individual- for not believing that that individual was— for not believing that that individual was a cat. and these
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are individual was a cat. and these tne— individual was a cat. and these tne peepte— individual was a cat. and these are the people that are teaching yete— are the people that are teaching yete-ntt— are the people that are teaching your-but-potential. your kids. but some potential teet—tntt- good news, which is that rishi stntt— good news, which is that rishi stntt mttnt— good news, which is that rishi sunak might stop to all of sunak might put a stop to all of ttts— sunak might put a stop to all of we tt— sunak might put a stop to all of this if teachers— sunak might put a stop to all of this if teachers can't hide from pteents— this if teachers can't hide from pteents tntt— this if teachers can't hide from parents that their— this if teachers can't hide from parents that their children are wtntnt— parents that their children are wtntnt te— parents that their children are wtnttnt te te— parents that their children are wanting to be referred to as a ttteeent— wanting to be referred to as a different gender. qt- g. different gender. quite right. because, i mean, ultimately it comes down to this. parents are the primary educators of their children. they always should be. that's core function of the that's a core function of the family, which is supposed to be this of love in this this atmosphere of love in which rightly form which parents can rightly form their if you take their children. and if you take that from them by saying, that away from them by saying, well, actually, we're well, actually, no, we're going to children, to form your children, maybe very contrary to your own principles, then that's that's utterly, unaccept label. utterly, utterly unaccept label. anyone who wants to learn more about have about this, we have an education, education education, family, education trust conference on saturday. anyone who's interested in this subject can come to that and learn but this kind learn more. but this is the kind of we really need to of thing that we really need to fight. got time for fight. i've just got time for one more quick one. and it's when all one more quick one. and it's wnen-ttt et- one more quick one. and it's when-all of this- one more quick one. and it's when-all of this trans when we see all of this transi nonsense—schools nonsense going on in schools and the threatening— the threatening behaviour tewtets— the threatening behaviour towards people towards children from the people wne— towards children from the people| wne—tnem. towards children from the people| wnetne—tnem. towards children from the people| who the idea _them, towards children from the people who the idea that them, towards children from the people who the idea that now them, towards children from the people who the idea that now children it, and the idea that now children mttnt—tsl might be in schools acting as ettte— might be in schools acting as ettte tets— might be in schools acting as qatar acas and— might be in schools acting as qatar acas and that that's okay,
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wnten— qatar acas and that that's okay, wnten t— qatar acas and that that's okay, wnten t nepe— qatar acas and that that's okay, which i hope doesn't mean that tney—t— which i hope doesn't mean that tney—t tttee- which i hope doesn't mean that they—a litter box. they get to poo in a litter box at they get to poo in a litter box tt-ttet— they get to poo in a litter box tt-ttet et— they get to poo in a litter box at-back of the— they get to poo in a litter box at back of the classroom. by at the back of the classroom. by the at the back of the classroom. by tne wty.— at the back of the classroom. by tne wty. tse— at the back of the classroom. by the way, rise . home - at the back of the classroom. by the way, rise home schooling the way, rise in home schooling . -te— the way, rise in home schooling . -te see— the way, rise in home schooling . -te tntt— the way, rise in home schooling . _to see that actuallyl . i'd like to see that actually . i'd like to see that actually . i think there is a rise in home schooling, but there are also worrying signs that government crack down on government want to crack down on that trust parents that they don't trust parents obviously but when obviously to do that. but when we see what's actually happening in actually in schools, are we actually surprised want to do surprised that they want to do this? wouldn't you? this? exactly. why wouldn't you? so we do need to defend the right that as right of parents to do that as well. is part of a wider well. this is part of a wider campaign, not just this one specific of. absolutely. specific issue of. absolutely. teen— specific issue of. absolutely. teen-tew- specific issue of. absolutely. look,-very much.i look, thank you very much. tttm— look, thank you very much. etttn-ttt— look, thank you very much. again,-bit short- look, thank you very much. again, bit short and again, it's a bit short and sweet— again, it's a bit short and sweet ttt— again, it's a bit short and sweet, but i— again, it's a bit short and sweet, but i think got again, it's a bit short and- sweet, but i think-got all sweet, but i think we've got all the sweet, but i think we've got all tne-petnts— sweet, but i think we've got all the-pointslthere.- sweet, but i think we've got all the points there. so it's the key points in there. so it's teett— the key points in there. so it's tett-yet— the key points in there. so it's teett-yetltne- the key points in there. so it's great you the show great to have you on the show tnt— great to have you on the showj tnt—tnte and thank you for coming into the—williams. the studios. peter williams tneee— the studios. peter williamsi tneee—et there, who is the director of tne— there, who is the director of the - education - the family education trust. teetetsty.— the family education trust. seriously,-lookl the family education trust. seriously, look at seriously, when you look at wntt-s—tne- seriously, when you look at- what's_the moment, what's going on at the moment, i ntwen-t— what's going on at the moment, i ntwen-t tet— what's going on at the moment, i haven't got kids— what's going on at the moment, i haven't got kids yet, but it is mtttnt— making me think, why don't we nemeseneet— making me think, why don't we. homeschool_feel making me think, why don't we. h0ithough)l_feel making me think, why don't we. h0ithough i _feel making me think, why don't we h0ithough i would feel making me think, why don't we h0ithough i would have feel making me think, why don't we h0ithough i would have little al as though i would have a little bit as though i would have a little ttt meee— as though i would have a little bit more control— as though i would have a little bit more control over send them to bit more control over send them te—ttt— bit more control over send them te—ttt et— bit more control over send them te—ttt et t- bit more control over send them to_all of a sudden,| to school than all of a sudden, you— to school than all of a sudden, you-i— to school than all of a sudden, yet-t-seme- to school than all of a sudden,| you-i-some friends you know, i invite some friends eetnt—etti round and two of them's a cat tnt— round and two of them's a cat tnt-tnem-s— round and two of them's a cat tnt-tnem-s t— round and two of them's a cat and them's a tortoise and one of them's a tortoise and etes—ant— and one of them's a tortoise and one's_andihave- and one of them's a tortoise and one's_and i have to i one's a butterfly. and i have to teeept—nttl accept that, apparently. but tnywty.— accept that, apparently. but tnywty. ttnt.— accept that, apparently. but anyway, right. british people are anyway, right. british people tee—peteettyi are said to be given priority over migrants— are said to be given priority over migrants council
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over migrants will council netstnt. — over migrants will council netstnt. t— over migrants will council netstnt. t sty— over migrants will council housing. i say about time too, ttt—ttet.- housing. i say about time too, ttt—ttet. t-ml but when i come back, i'm tetnentnt— branching this out. i'm moving the branching this out. i'm moving tne—snettt- branching this out. i'm moving the—should brits| the discussion on should brits be the discussion on should brits te-peteetty— the discussion on should brits te-peteetty tee- the discussion on should brits be-priority for all- the discussion on should brits be priority for all public be given priority for all public sewtees— be given priority for all public seewtees. t— be given priority for all public services. i love— be given priority for all public services. i love a— be given priority for all public services. i love a good debate on services. i love a good debate en tntt.— services. i love a good debate en tntt-ttt- services. i love a good debate on that. _mp who- services. i love a good debate on that. mp who feels on that. and the mp who feels tntt— on that. and the mp who feels tntt-tennsen— on that. and the mp who feels that-johnson was- on that. and the mp who feels that johnson was stitched that boris johnson was stitched up that boris johnson was stitched ubla— that boris johnson was stitched tplt-eetet- that boris johnson was stitched tplt-eetet se- up by a kangaroo court so steentty— up by a kangaroo court so. strongly-kangaroo up by a kangaroo court so- strongly-kangaroo tie strongly he's got a kangaroo tie tnt— strongly he's got a kangaroo tie tnt-en— strongly he's got a kangaroo tie tnt-en tn— strongly he's got a kangaroo tie tnt-en tn t— strongly he's got a kangaroo tie and on in a second. and he'll be on in a second. tttetet— and he'll be on in a second. patrick christys— and he'll be on in a second. patrick christys gb news, nettttn-s— patrick christys gb news, eetntts-.-
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channel it's 5 i channell it's 5 pm, i channel- it's 5 pm, it's lettnnet— it's 5 pm, it's patrick enetstys— it's 5 pm, it's patrick christys, it's- it's 5 pm, it's patrick christys, it's gb news. now, you wtt— christys, it's gb news. now, you wttt ntte— christys, it's gb news. now, you will have heard— christys, it's gb news. now, you will have heard the story about nettsn— will have heard the story about british nationals— will have heard the story about british nationals getting petenttttty— british nationals getting potentially priority social netstnt— potentially priority social housing over— potentially priority social housing over migrants. but i wtnt— housing over migrants. but i wtnt te— housing over migrants. but i want to move— housing over migrants. but i want to move that story on. snettt— want to move that story on. snettt we— want to move that story on. should we be— want to move that story on. should we be putting brits ahead at should we be putting brits ahead tt tne— should we be putting brits ahead tt tne tep— should we be putting brits ahead tt tne tep et— should we be putting brits ahead at the top of the— should we be putting brits ahead at the top of the queue for eweeytntnt— at the top of the queue for eweeytntnt ?— at the top of the queue for everything ? gp- at the top of the queue for everything ? gp appointments, everything? gp appointments, tentst— everything? gp appointments, dentist appointments, school ptteese— dentist appointments, school places? should _ dentist appointments, school places? should brits be this eetntey-s— places? should brits be this country's priority ? that's what country's priority? that's what i country's priority? that's what t wtnt— country's priority? that's what t wtnt te — country's priority? that's what i want to know. _ country's priority? that's what i want to know. in— country's priority? that's what i want to know. in other news, t-m — i want to know. in other news, t-m tetnt— i want to know. in other news, t-m tetnt te— i want to know. in other news, t-m tetnt te te— i want to know. in other news, i'm going to be talking a lot ttett— i'm going to be talking a lot ttett ttts— i'm going to be talking a lot about this story— i'm going to be talking a lot about this story as well. ramp up, about this story as well. ramp tp. step— about this story as well. ramp tp. step tnt— about this story as well. ramp up, stop and search, says the teme— up, stop and search, says the home-suella- up, stop and search, says the- home _suella braverman. home secretary suella braverman. she home secretary suella braverman. sne—sensel she wants more common sense pettetnt. — she wants more common sense pettetnt. _itl she wants more common sensej pettetnt. —tt te policing. she doesn't want it to be policing. she doesn't want it to tee—ette.- policing. she doesn't want it to te—etetst. tm- policing. she doesn't want it to be racist. i'm going be considered racist. i'm going to be considered racist. i'm going te—ttett- be considered racist. i'm going te—ttett tntsi to be having a chat about this teetse— to be having a chat about this. teettse—teet to be having a chat about this. tetnese—teet to be having a chat about this. bethe people—look to be having a chat about this bethe people who look to be having a chat about this bethe people who are look at the people who are disproportionately affected by tntte— disproportionately affected by tntte etme— disproportionately affected by knife crime, come from the knife crime, they come from the ttwt— knife crime, they come from the bame communities. knife crime, they come from the bame communities . motty why knife crime, they come from the ba whyommunities . motty why knife crime, they come from the ba why wouldiities . motty why knife crime, they come from the ba why would ities . motty why knife crime, they come from the ba why would it be . motty why knife crime, they come from the ba why would it be considered why oh why would it be considered etetst— oh why would it be considered etetstltey— oh why would it be considered etetstltey te— oh why would it be considered racist-try to stop— oh why would it be considered racist try to stop people in racist to try to stop people in tne— racist to try to stop people in tne-tnt— racist to try to stop people in tne-tnt tst— racist to try to stop people in the and ask them if they the street and ask them if they are the street and ask them if they eteeytnt— the street and ask them if they eteeytnt t— the street and ask them if they are carrying a knife? it would tettttty— are carrying a knife? it would actually—ethnic. actually save more ethnic mtneetty— actually save more ethnic minority-than- actually save more ethnic minority than white lives minority lives than white lives petenttttty.— minority lives than white lives potentially. we're— minority lives than white lives potentially. we're also going to be potentially. we're also going to te tttttnt— potentially. we're also going to te tttttnt. et— potentially. we're also going to be talking, of course, about tnts— be talking, of course, about we peese— be talking, of course, about this 10,000 channel migrants ntte— this 10,000 channel migrants have arrived— this 10,000 channel migrants have arrived this— this 10,000 channel migrants have arrived this year, peestmttty-
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have arrived this year, presumably this time next week i'll presumably this time next week t-tt te— presumably this time next week i'll be standing— presumably this time next week i'll be standing here talking ttett— i'll be standing here talking ttett tne— i'll be standing here talking about the 11,000 number or the 12,000 — about the 11,000 number or the 12,000 number,— about the 11,000 number or the 12,000 number, and we'll just do tntt— 12,000 number, and we'll just do tntt eepettetty— 12,000 number, and we'll just do that repeatedly until we hit tnetnee— that repeatedly until we hit another record. _ that repeatedly until we hit another record. it also comes on tne— another record. it also comes on tne tty— another record. it also comes on tne tty tntt— another record. it also comes on the day that it's— another record. it also comes on the day that it's been revealed tntt— the day that it's been revealed tntt we— the day that it's been revealed tntt we ntte— the day that it's been revealed that we have 1094 foreign eetmtntts— that we have 1094 foreign criminals, including rapists , criminals, including rapists, teeeeetsts— criminals, including rapists, terrorists and— criminals, including rapists, terrorists and murderers and wtnteetnt— terrorists and murderers and wandering the— terrorists and murderers and wandering the streets of britain teetse— wandering the streets of britain because they've _ wandering the streets of britain because they've gone on the run. so because they've gone on the run. se tneee— because they've gone on the run. se tneee we— because they've gone on the run. se tneee we te. — because they've gone on the run. so there we go. and— because they've gone on the run. so there we go. and it is just nme— so there we go. and it is just ttys— so there we go. and it is just ttys te— so there we go. and it is just ttys te te— so there we go. and it is just nine days to go until i dance on sttte— nine days to go until i dance on sttte wttn— nine days to go until i dance on sttte wttn tne — nine days to go until i dance on stage with the dream boys. the uns— stage with the dream boys. the tt-s test— stage with the dream boys. the uk's best apparently group of mtte— uk's best apparently group of male strippers— uk's best apparently group of male strippers .— uk's best apparently group of male strippers . i'm uk's best apparently group of male strippers. i'm doing it to ettse— male strippers. i'm doing it to meney— male strippers. i'm doing it to raise money and— male strippers. i'm doing it to raise money and awareness for the raise money and awareness for tne menttt— raise money and awareness for the mental health— raise money and awareness for the mental health charity mind teetse— the mental health charity mind because male— the mental health charity mind because male suicide is unfortunately- because male suicide is unfortunately the biggest killer of unfortunately the biggest killer et nen— unfortunately the biggest killer et tntee— unfortunately the biggest killer of men under the— unfortunately the biggest killer of men under the age of 40. we ntwe. — of men under the age of 40. we ntwe. vet— of men under the age of 40. we have. you have— of men under the age of 40. we have. you have raised so far ttnt— have. you have raised so far around £65,000.— have. you have raised so far around £65,000. thank you very , around £65,000. thank you very, weey— around £65,000. thank you very, weey nten.— around £65,000. thank you very, weey mten. tts— around £65,000. thank you very, very much. it's just— around £65,000. thank you very, very much. it's just giving .com teewtet— very much. it's just giving .com forward slash— very much. it's just giving .com forward slash fundraiser ing teewtet— forward slash fundraiser ing forward slash— forward slash fundraiser ing forward slash challenge patrick enetstys.— forward slash challenge patrick christys. that's— forward slash challenge patrick christys. that's how you can tentte— christys. that's how you can tentte. t— christys. that's how you can donate. i have— christys. that's how you can donate. i have to— christys. that's how you can donate. i have to get my chest wtxet— donate. i have to get my chest wtxet tt— donate. i have to get my chest wtxet tt tne— donate. i have to get my chest waxed at the end— donate. i have to get my chest waxed at the end of this week teetse— waxed at the end of this week teetse yet— waxed at the end of this week because you lovely people mtnttet— because you lovely people mtnttet te— because you lovely people managed to raise more than teette. —
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managed to raise more than £60,000. booked managed to raise more than. £60,000.-booked in. £60,000. that's all booked in. twe— £60,000. that's all booked in. be tet— £60,000. that's all booked in. we get my— £60,000. that's all booked in. i've got my final— £60,000. that's all booked in. i've got my final rehearsal with the i've got my final rehearsal with tne—next— i've got my final rehearsal with the _ next tuesday . the dream boys next tuesday and next— the dream boys next tuesday and next wednesday— the dream boys next tuesday and next wednesday .— the dream boys next tuesday and next wednesday . i'm on stage next wednesday. i'm on stage mtttnt— next wednesday. i'm on stage making-absolute- next wednesday. i'm on stage making absolute crackpot of making an absolute crackpot of mysett — making an absolute crackpot of mysett ttt— making an absolute crackpot of myself. all for— making an absolute crackpot of myself. all for charity. patrick enetstys— myself. all for charity. patrick enetstys en— myself. all for charity. patrick enetstys en .— myself. all for charity. patrick christys on . gb— myself. all for charity. patrick christys on . gb news. okay get christys on. gb news. okay get the christys on. gb news. okay get tne emttts— christys on. gb news. okay get the emails coming— christys on. gb news. okay get the emails coming in. gb views. gb the emails coming in. gb views. en tews— the emails coming in. gb views. en tews eem— the emails coming in. gb views. gb news .com. should we peteettse— gb news .com. should we prioritise these— gb news .com. should we prioritise these brits for every stntte— prioritise these brits for every stntte ptttte— prioritise these brits for every single public service, for tettnt— single public service, for housing, for— single public service, for housing, for health care, for ettetten— housing, for health care, for education, for— housing, for health care, for education, for everything. gb vtews— education, for everything. gb vtews et— education, for everything. gb vtews en— education, for everything. gb views our gb news .com . now views our gb news .com. now tnettn— views our gb news .com. now tnettn tts— views our gb news .com. now though, it's polly— views our gb news .com. now though, it's polly with the nettttnes— though, it's polly with the headlines .— though, it's polly with the headlines . patrick thank you. headlines. patrick thank you. eeet— headlines. patrick thank you. good afternoon.— headlines. patrick thank you. good afternoon. well,- headlines. patrick thank you. good afternoon. well, the house of commons is right now debating on the report that found boris johnson lied over partygate. let's take you to the house of commons to show you live pictures debate . are pictures of that debate. are they're deciding whether or to not sanction the former prime minister after last week, the privileges committee found boris johnson repeatedly misled the
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house of commons. well, in the last half hour, i can tell you that the commons leader, penny mordaunt, said she would vote in favour of the report into johnson's conduct number ten. by the way, we can see theresa may there, the former prime minister, getting to grips with that debate as well. well, the current prime minister, rishi sunak, saying he's going to skip the debate because he doesn't want to influence the outcome of any decision. that's made today in the house of commons. we'll keep tabs on what's happening in the for you throughout the the house for you throughout the rest afternoon. now, rest of the afternoon. now, the metropolitan police has confirmed it's looking into three potential breaches of covid regulations between june 2020 and may 2021. a downing street and at chequers . that's street and at chequers. that's after the sunday mirror obtained video footage appearing to show conservative staff partying dunng conservative staff partying during the pandemic lockdown and apparently joking about restrictions at the time. rishi sunak has commented on this as well. he says he doesn't want to interfere in this matter . well,
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interfere in this matter. well, this committee was- e well, this committee was established tntee— this committee was established tntee tne— this committee was established under the former— this committee was established under the former prime minister it under the former prime minister tt eemmtntet— under the former prime minister it commanded the— under the former prime minister it commanded the confidence of the it commanded the confidence of tne netse— it commanded the confidence of tne tetse tt— it commanded the confidence of the house at the— it commanded the confidence of the house at the time, and i'm tntt— the house at the time, and i'm sure that they've— the house at the time, and i'm sure that they've done their weet— sure that they've done their work thoroughly and i respect ttem— work thoroughly and i respect tnem tee— work thoroughly and i respect them for that.— work thoroughly and i respect them for that. obviously, this is them for that. obviously, this ts-tee— them for that. obviously, this ts-tee tne— them for that. obviously, this is-for the house,- them for that. obviously, this is for the house, not is a matter for the house, not for is a matter for the house, not tee tne— is a matter for the house, not for the government , is a matter for the house, not for the government, and that's why— for the government, and that's wny eten— for the government, and that's wny eten tn— for the government, and that's why each an individual colleagues— why each an individual colleagues make why each an individual colleagues-make their colleagues will make up their ewn—tme- colleagues will make up their. own _time comes. colleagues will make up their- own_time comes. so own mind when the time comes. so are own mind when the time comes. so tee-tetnt— own mind when the time comes. so tee-tetnt te— own mind when the time comes. so tee-tetnt te te— are you not going to be there? i are you not going to be there? t sttt— are you not going to be there? t sttt etet— are you not going to be there? i said each-individual- i said each an individual colleague their own colleague will make up their own mind when time comes. this mind when the time comes. this is for house rather is a matter for the house rather tttn— is a matter for the house rather than-government- is a matter for the house rather than-government .- is a matter for the house rather than government . it's an than for the government. it's an tmpeettnt— than for the government. it's an important distinction that's important distinction and that's why— important distinction and that's wty—te- important distinction and that's. why—to influence why i wouldn't want to influence nyee— why i wouldn't want to influence tnyene—wetel why i wouldn't want to influence tnyene—yete -i anyone in advance of that vote. wett— anyone in advance of that vote. wett. tne— anyone in advance of that vote. well, the former— anyone in advance of that vote. well, the former prime minister, ttwt— well, the former prime minister, david cameron,— well, the former prime minister, david cameron, has been telling the david cameron, has been telling tne cowo— david cameron, has been telling tne eovtt tt— david cameron, has been telling the covid 19 inquiry it was a mtsttte— the covid 19 inquiry it was a mtsttte net— the covid 19 inquiry it was a mistake not to— the covid 19 inquiry it was a mistake not to look at different tyites— mistake not to look at different types et— mistake not to look at different types of diseases— mistake not to look at different types of diseases when preparing for types of diseases when preparing tee ttttee— types of diseases when preparing for future pandemics . m” for future pandemics. aukus mr emneten— for future pandemics. aukus mr cameron was giving evidence to the independent inquiry into the uk's response to the covid 19 pandemic. so much time was spent on a pandemic influenza and that was seen as the greatest danger and it. we've had flus, we've ntt— and it. we've had flus, we've ntt weey— and it. we've had flus, we've ntt weey ttt— and it. we've had flus, we've had very bad years- eet: . we've had flus, we've had very bad years for flu. so it had very bad years for flu. so tt ts— had very bad years for flu. so tt ts t— had very bad years for flu. so tt ts t-ttntee—
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had very bad years for flu. so it is a-danger .- had very bad years for flu. so it is a danger. but why it is a big danger. but why wtsnt—tnt- it is a big danger. but whyi wasn't—and more wasn't more time and more ttestens— wasn't more time and more questions asked— wasn't more time and more questions asked about what ttenet— questions asked about what ttenet ett— questions asked about what turned out to— questions asked about what turned out to be the pandemic tntt— turned out to be the pandemic tntt we— turned out to be the pandemic that we faced?— turned out to be the pandemic that we faced? and i it's very ttet— that we faced? and i it's very ntet te— that we faced? and i it's very hard to answer— that we faced? and i it's very hard to answer why that's the ant— hard to answer why that's the ant tm— hard to answer why that's the case. and i'm sure this public tntttey— case. and i'm sure this public tntttey ts— case. and i'm sure this public tntttey ts tetnt— case. and i'm sure this public inquiry is going to spend a lot of inquiry is going to spend a lot et tme— inquiry is going to spend a lot et ttme en— inquiry is going to spend a lot of time on that.— inquiry is going to spend a lot of time on that. david cameron, tew— of time on that. david cameron, tew tne— of time on that. david cameron, tew tne us— of time on that. david cameron, now the us coastguard has told gb now the us coastguard has told en wews— now the us coastguard has told en tews tney— now the us coastguard has told gb news they are— now the us coastguard has told gb news they are coordinating a seten— gb news they are coordinating a seten tn— gb news they are coordinating a seten tn tne— gb news they are coordinating a search in the atlantic ocean for a search in the atlantic ocean for t mtsstnt— search in the atlantic ocean for a missing vessel— search in the atlantic ocean for a missing vessel that's gone mtsstnt— a missing vessel that's gone mtsstnt . — a missing vessel that's gone mtsstnt. ant— a missing vessel that's gone missing . e: .ets;”ts; a missing vessel that's gone missing . ' e: .ets;”ts; ens; a missing vessel that's gone missing . e: .ets;”ts; ens; ”c: missing. and there are reports that a submersible cable was taking tourists to the site of the titanic wreckage . the the titanic wreckage. the vessel, we understand, operated by oceangate expeditions , that's by oceangate expeditions, that's a us based company that offers visits to the area where the titanic lies. more than 12,000ft below the surface . that's the below the surface. that's the latest information we have on the missing vessel. it's operated by ocean gate expedition oceans. no further detail as to where that submersible is here at home, police have broken up an albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants into the uk on
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small boats. three members of the crime group were arrested early on this morning by officers from the national crime agency . gb news understands the agency. gb news understands the group has been charging migrants more than £7,000 a journey. the arrests come as nearly 11,000 illegal migrants cross the engush illegal migrants cross the english channel in small boats since the start of this year. mortgage rates in the uk have reached a new high, increasing costs for borrowers and those who'd like to buy a house. a two year fixed home loan now has a rate of just above 6. and this morning the prime minister ruled out any extra government assistance for households struggling with payments . the struggling with payments. the home secretary has said she is urging police chiefs across the uk to ramp up the use of stop and search powers. suella braverman said officers in england and wales who use the powers have her full support it to prevent violence and save more lives. however, critics of stop and search say it
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disproportionate targets black and ethnic minority communities . the home secretary told the commons she wants every community to be able to trust in stop and search, but added it must be a power that's used responsibly. it's must be a power that's used responsibly . it's always responsibly. it's always heartbreaking - it's always heartbreaking and distressing to eett— heartbreaking and distressing to eett eepeets— heartbreaking and distressing to read reports about stabbings and sneetnts. — read reports about stabbings and sneettnts. tm— read reports about stabbings and shootings. i'm struck- read reports about stabbings and shootings. i shootings. i'm struck by how often mothers of murdered young black men say that stop and search could have saved their son's lives. we owe it to them to son's lives. we owe it to them te neet— son's lives. we owe it to them te neet tnete— son's lives. we owe it to them to heed their call. _ son's lives. we owe it to them to heed their call. the- e . we owe it to them to heed their call. i to heed their call. the facts are on their side . stop and are on their side. stop and search works and is a vital tool in the fight against serious, violent crime train drivers at 16 rail operators will refuse to work overtime for six days next month in their ongoing dispute over pay, aslef said its members will withdraw non—contractual overtime. that's will withdraw non—contractual overtime . that's known as rest
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overtime. that's known as rest day— overtime. that's known as rest day ,— overtime. that's known as rest pty . weettnt— overtime. that's known as rest day , working from _ that's known as rest day , working from monday the 3rd day, working from monday the 3rd of day, working from monday the 3rd et ttty— day, working from monday the 3rd et ttty te— day, working from monday the 3rd of july to saturday,— day, working from monday the 3rd of july to saturday, july the etttn.— of july to saturday, july the ettntn. tne— of july to saturday, july the eighth. the walkouts coinciding wttn— eighth. the walkouts coinciding wttn tne— eighth. the walkouts coinciding with the first- eighth. the walkouts coinciding with the first week of wimbledon . tne— with the first week of wimbledon . tne ttme— with the first week of wimbledon . the prime minister has told teesttent— . the prime minister has told president zelenskyy of ukraine tntt— president zelenskyy of ukraine tntt nts— president zelenskyy of ukraine that his country's— president zelenskyy of ukraine that his country's counter etenstwe— that his country's counter offensive against russia is mtttnt— offensive against russia is mtttnt teet— offensive against russia is making good progress. the two tettees— making good progress. the two tettees spete— making good progress. the two leaders spoke earlier this meentnt— leaders spoke earlier this meentnt ts— leaders spoke earlier this morning as kyivs troops sought to morning as kyivs troops sought te eettte— morning as kyivs troops sought to retake territory— morning as kyivs troops sought to retake territory occupied by tttn— to retake territory occupied by tttn. us— to retake territory occupied by putin. us forces— to retake territory occupied by putin. us forces rishi sunak stytnt— putin. us forces rishi sunak stytnt tne— putin. us forces rishi sunak stytnt tne tt— putin. us forces rishi sunak saying the uk is— putin. us forces rishi sunak saying the uk is still firmly tettnt— saying the uk is still firmly behind ukraine— saying the uk is still firmly behind ukraine and small steps teewtet— behind ukraine and small steps teewtet wtt— behind ukraine and small steps forward will bring— behind ukraine and small steps forward will bring success in his forward will bring success in ms ettt— forward will bring success in his call with- forward will bring success in his call with mr— forward will bring success in his call with mr sunak, president— his call with mr sunak, president zelenskyy said they ttsetsset— president zelenskyy said they discussed further cooperation to exptnt— discussed further cooperation to expand ukraine's— discussed further cooperation to expand ukraine's capabilities tneettn— expand ukraine's capabilities tneettn tne— expand ukraine's capabilities through the use— expand ukraine's capabilities through the use of long—range weps— through the use of long—range weapons . you're— through the use of long—range weapons . you're up to date on gb weapons. you're up to date on gb wews— weapons. you're up to date on gb news more news as— weapons. you're up to date on gb news more news as it happens. ttet— news more news as it happens. ttet new— news more news as it happens. ttet te— news more news as it happens. ttet te .—
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back now to. patrick lotty. — back now to. patrick i okay. welcome. back now to. patrick okay. welcome aboard. now boris back now to. patrick okay. �*celebrating oard. now boris back now to. patrick okay. �*celebrating hisi. now boris johnson is celebrating his 59th birthday birthday , birthday today. happy birthday, boris. could give him boris. but mps could give him a present he doesn't really want and they are debating this partygate report that found that johnson misled johnson deliberately misled parliament. the report recommended that the former prime minister should not be given the to access given the pass to access parliament, which is usually available for former mps. i personally think this is an epic waste of taxpayers time and money. we've spoken so far today about an impending mortgage crisis housing crisis. crisis in a housing crisis. we've about the channel we've spoken about the channel migrant we've spoken migrant crisis, we've spoken about crisis when it comes to our justice with foreign our justice system with foreign nationals , including, rapists nationals, including, rapists and murderers and terrorists being just allowed to the being just allowed to walk the streets of britain. also streets of britain. we've also spoken about a crisis in our schools, haven't we, with the old but alas , mps old gender issue? but alas, mps find time yet again to find the time yet again to discuss partygate as well. in the last hour, the leader of the house, penny mordaunt, confirmed that she would back the report or shadow leader of the house. thangam debbonaire said that bons thangam debbonaire said that boris johnson is a far cry from
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a prime minister. this country can be proud of. earlier lord shaun bailey, the former conservative candidate to be the mayor of london, who was at the party revealed in the party that was revealed in the sunday can sunday mirror yesterday. can i just that party was one we just say that party was one we all knew about? it's just the video yesterday. all knew about? it's just the vi de anyway, yesterday. all knew about? it's just the vide anyway, i yesterday. all knew about? it's just the vide anyway, i believezsterday. all knew about? it's just the vide anyway, i believe heerday. all knew about? it's just the videanyway, i believe he had. but anyway, i believe he had something to about it . very something to say about it. very upset the video as something to say about it. very upset-the video as well. i upset about the video as well. i'd upset about the video as well. t-t—tt— upset about the video as well. t-t—tt teteee- upset about the video as well. i'd—it before and. upset about the video as well. i'd—it before and it| i'd never seen it before and it etwetsty— i'd never seen it before and it obviously turned— i'd never seen it before and it obviously turned into something . once— obviously turned into something . onee t— obviously turned into something . onee t ttt— obviously turned into something . once i had left,— obviously turned into something . once i had left, i— obviously turned into something . once i had left, i didn't realise . but like i said, realise that. but like i said, i'll realise that. but like i said, t-tt sty— realise that. but like i said, i'll say something- realise that. but like i said, i'll say something to- ”ce. but like i said, i'll say something to the bbc tttee— i'll say something to the bbc tttee. tntttnt— i'll say something to the bbc later, jingling mingling. later, jingling and mingling. sir,_acceptable?l sir, how is that acceptable? it isn't saying it is for isn't. i'm not saying it is for a second. are— isn't. i'm not saying it is for a second. are you— . i'm not saying it is for a second. are you embarrassed tntt— a second. are you embarrassed tntt yete— a second. are you embarrassed that you've-given- a second. are you embarrassed that you've given peerage that you've been given a peerage tesptte—tnt- despite the fact that you and yete—ttteetnttyi your staff were so flagrantly ptsstnt— your staff were so flagrantly ptsstntltet— your staff were so flagrantly passing-not-and- your staff were so flagrantly passing net. your staff were so flagrantly- passing.not-and my staff. passing? not me and my staff. my passing? not me and my staff. my staff, passing? not me and my staff. tty stttt wnten— passing? not me and my staff. my staff, which again,- passing? not me and my staff. my staff, which again, i- my staff, which again, i tpetettse— my staff, which again, i. apologise._|'m my staff, which again, i apologise._|'m of apologise. excuse me. i'm out of teetm— apologise. excuse me. i'm out of ttett—tee- breath. i apologise for eepettetty— breath. i apologise for repeatedly and i apologise again tneeseetetty— repeatedly and i apologise again unreservedly. but— repeatedly and i apologise again unreservedly. but yes. do you tnttt— unreservedly. but yes. do you tntnt yet— unreservedly. but yes. do you tntnt yet ee— unreservedly. but yes. do you think you owe the british public an think you owe the british public tn tpetetye— think you owe the british public tn tpetetye tm— think you owe the british public an apology? i'm reservedly. i tpetettse— an apology? i'm reservedly. i apologise then,— an apology? i'm reservedly. i apologise then, and i apologise tts— apologise then, and i apologise tt-s t— apologise then, and i apologise now. it's a staff— apologise then, and i apologise now. it's a staff team that were twen— now. it's a staff team that were ttwen te— now. it's a staff team that were ttwen te me— now. it's a staff team that were given to me that— now. it's a staff team that were given to me that i— now. it's a staff team that were given to me that i should the ttet— given to me that i should the back eventually— given to me that i should the back eventually stops with me .
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back eventually stops with me. teets— back eventually stops with me. vetts et— back eventually stops with me. years of service— back eventually stops with me. years of service resign- back eventually stops with me. years of service resign .- back eventually stops with me. / e years of service resign. i'd apologised a lot at the time . apologised a lot at the time. still being harassed in the street to discuss that as well as our top story of the day, which is that british people will be prioritised over migrants when it comes to council joined by council housing. i am joined by the conservative brenda clark the conservative mp brenda clark smith. brendan thank you very much. now i believe that you have a special tie on today. what is it and why ? well what is it and why? well obviously it's the ashes at the moment and we're welcoming our visitors from australia. our cousins from down under, and it's cousins from down under, and ms pteety— cousins from down under, and it's purely coincidental that i ntppen— it's purely coincidental that i ntppen te— it's purely coincidental that i happen to have— it's purely coincidental that i happen to have this tie on today wnen— happen to have this tie on today wnen etnee— happen to have this tie on today when other things— happen to have this tie on today when other things are going on. tttnee— when other things are going on. ttttet om— when other things are going on. patrick oh, and— when other things are going on. patrick oh, and he's— when other things are going on. patrick oh, and he's got- when other things are going on. patrick oh, and he's got the yeah, he's got the kangaroo on it. well there we it. good stuff. well there we go. we okay go. brendan there we go. okay well, first things first. what do you make of the fact that mps are currently in that house behind you now discussing boris johnson yet again? absolutely slating him, saying talking about taking his parliamentary pass off him and that, you know, not a lot of mps are going into
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bat for him. what do you say to that? well, bat for him. what do you say to that ? well, it's on bat for him. what do you say to that? well, it's on par bat for him. what do you say to that ? well, it's on par with the that? well, it's on par with the ptttte— that? well, it's on par with the public flogging _ .ee.7 well, it's on par with the public flogging effectively, tst-t— public flogging effectively, tsn-t pp — public flogging effectively, isn't it? and— public flogging effectively, isn't it? and as- public flogging effectively, isn't it? ' e: t: isn't it? and as you've said, patrick, people are far more bothered what's happening bothered about what's happening with mortgages, with their mortgages, what's happening illegal happening with illegal migration. mentioned migration. you've mentioned housing as as well generally. so people want us to move on from this. really. now i've said what i this. really. now i've said what ttntnt— this. really. now i've said what t tntnt ttett— this. really. now i've said what i think about that— really. now i've said what i think about that report that etme-tnttt— i think about that report that came-think it's- came out. i think it's extraordinarily harsh and tnttte— extraordinarily harsh and unfair.ithink- extraordinarily harsh and unfair. think it's actually unfair. i think it's actually ttte— unfair. i think it's actually tttte-te- unfair. i think it's actually quite-to take- unfair. i think it's actually quite to take his unfair. i think it's actually- quite-to take his pass quite spiteful to take his pass off quite spiteful to take his pass et ntm— quite spiteful to take his pass et ntm ts— quite spiteful to take his pass off him as well.— quite spiteful to take his pass off him as well. and i think the ttnt— off him as well. and i think the tntntlttett— off him as well. and i think the thing-about today,- off him as well. and i think the thing about today, this thing is about today, this is a netse— thing is about today, this is a tetse wete. — thing is about today, this is a house vote. it's— thing is about today, this is a house vote. it's a- thing is about today, this is a house vote. . ”tse; house vote. it's a free vote. so it means that can vote any it means that you can vote any way like and it's not way you like and it's not normally whipped. so you don't have don't have have to be here. you don't have to now, people on my to vote on it. now, people on my side, we're not being whipped to vote on it. now, people on my sidtit.ive're not being whipped to vote on it. now, people on my sidtit. butt not being whipped to vote on it. now, people on my sidtit. but inot being whipped to vote on it. now, people on my sidtit. but i believeg whipped for it. but i believe the opposition so what you're opposition are so what you're going have is you're going going to have is you're going to have of people have huge numbers of people turning this and turning up to support this and to support the punishment and accept the findings of the report. but then i'll have a lot of report. but then i'll have a lot et eettetttes— report. but then i'll have a lot of colleagues-are- report. but then i'll have a lot of colleagues-are out- ”tssnst. but then i'll have a lot of colleagues are out at by of colleagues who are out at by eteetens— of colleagues who are out at by electionstorking_ elections, working in the constituencies- elections, working in the constituencies and really some tttety— constituencies and really some fairly deserted— constituencies and really some fairly deserted benches on my stte— fairly deserted benches on my stte ts— fairly deserted benches on my stte ts t— fairly deserted benches on my side as a result— fairly deserted benches on my side as a result of— fairly deserted benches on my side as a result of that. so
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twe— side as a result of that. so be sttt— side as a result of that. so be sttt .— side as a result of that. so i've said , you— side as a result of that. so i've said , you know what, i'm i've said, you know what, i'm net— i've said, you know what, i'm net tetnt— i've said, you know what, i'm net tetnt te— i've said, you know what, i'm not going to take— i've said, you know what, i'm not going to take part of this. t-m — not going to take part of this. t-m net— not going to take part of this. m net tetnt— not going to take part of this. m net tetnt te— not going to take part of this. i'm not going to legitimise it. i'm not going to legitimise it. i'm going to i'm not i'm not going to speak. i'm not even vote because even going to vote because i think better think we've got far better things appreciate that. things to do. i appreciate that. i things to do. i appreciate that. t tt— things to do. i appreciate that. i do have to ask you, though, would not been better would it not have been better for vote in it and back for you to vote in it and back bons for you to vote in it and back boris johnson and maybe try to convince some of colleagues convince some of your colleagues to ? that's a fair point, to do that? that's a fair point, patrick. i think if everybody ntt— patrick. i think if everybody ntt teen— patrick. i think if everybody ntt teen tn— patrick. i think if everybody had been in, i— is i think if everybody had been in, i think certainly we-t— had been in, i think certainly we-t ptsn— had been in, i think certainly we-t ptsn tt— had been in, i think certainly we'd push it to— had been in, i think certainly we'd push it to a— had been in, i think certainly we'd push it to a vote. and i tnttt— we'd push it to a vote. and i tntnt tneee— we'd push it to a vote. and i think there are— we'd push it to a vote. and i think there are a— we'd push it to a vote. and i think there are a lot of people wne-t— think there are a lot of people who'd actually— think there are a lot of people who'd actually go— think there are a lot of people who'd actually go through and wettt— who'd actually go through and would actually— who'd actually go through and would actually do that. there are would actually do that. there ttse— would actually do that. there are also a lot,— would actually do that. there are also a lot, of— would actually do that. there are also a lot, of course, that teeettse—t- are also a lot, of course, that are—because theyi are also a lot, of course, that. are—because they may are abstaining because they may be are abstaining because they may te—ptntsnmentl are abstaining because they may be think punishment, are abstaining because they may be think was punishment, are abstaining because they may be think was tootnishment, are abstaining because they may be think was too harsh.ent, are abstaining because they may be think was too harsh. and but think it was too harsh. and tneees— there's lots of different eptntens— there's lots of different opinions have opinions on that. and i'd have teen—teeti been more than happy to trek tneettn— been more than happy to trek tmeten-wete- been more than happy to trek through vote against through there and vote against it through there and vote against tt-metn— through there and vote against it-mean, really,- through there and vote against it-mean, really, i- through there and vote against it mean, really, i would be it as i mean, really, i would be ntt— it as i mean, really, i would be ttt t— it as i mean, really, i would be now. but i think— it as i mean, really, i would be now. but i think if— it as i mean, really, i would be now. but i think if you look at tne— now. but i think if you look at tne wty— now. but i think if you look at tne wty tts— now. but i think if you look at the way it's being— now. but i think if you look at the way it's being done, the way tntt— the way it's being done, the way tntt tne— the way it's being done, the way that the voting _ that the voting is being structured _ that the voting is being structured really and that, structured really and all that, we-t—tttttntl structured really and all that,- we'd_talking about we'd end up being talking about ttteewtets— we'd end up being talking about afterwards - have - afterwards is you'd have ntnteets— afterwards is you'd havei hundreds—of afterwards is you'd have- hundreds_of the hundreds of members of the eppesttten— hundreds of members of the opposition and— hundreds of members of the opposition and other people in tneee— opposition and other people in tneee piling— opposition and other people in tneee ptttntlte— opposition and other people in there piling to vote for the there piling in to vote for the eepeet— there piling in to vote for the eepeetltnt— there piling in to vote for the reportiand then— there piling in to vote for the report and then the few of us report. and then the few of us tntt— report. and then the few of us tntt te— report. and then the few of us that are-vote— report. and then the few of us that are-vote in- report. and then the few of us that are vote in and then that are here vote in and then all
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that are here vote in and then tttltne— that are here vote in and then tttltne peess— that are here vote in and then all the press afterwards all of the press afterwards and peesent— present company accepted this entnnet-s— present company accepted this entnnet-s t— present company accepted this channel's a bit— present company accepted this channel's a bit more realistic. tney-t— channel's a bit more realistic. tney-t te— channel's a bit more realistic. they'd be talking— channel's a bit more realistic. they'd be talking about or no ene—neets- they'd be talking about or no one _ boris when i one supporting boris when tettttty— one supporting boris when actually-the- one supporting boris when actually the fact that no actually it's the fact that no one's here. yeah— actually it's the fact that no one's here. yeah okay, fair enettn. — one's here. yeah okay, fair enettn. .t-m- one's here. yeah okay, fair enough. gt; g one's here. yeah okay, fair. enough. .i'm going to one's here. yeah okay, fair- enough. .i'm going to just enough. now i'm going to just play enough. now i'm going to just play little clip play you a little clip of someone think someone who i don't think gets enough that is enough stick. and that is theresa arguably one of the theresa may, arguably one of the best qualified we best qualified people that we had be the job of had to be the do the job of prime minister and arguably one of worst. theresa may has of the worst. theresa may has found the time within her busy, jam serving the jam packed schedule serving the people of maidenhead , i believe people of maidenhead, i believe to rock up at parliament today and say this. so i'm just going to play the clip and then we'll see what you make of it, see, because as prime minister, i had to judge, take decisions based on judgements about the behaviour of friends and colleagues , decisions which colleagues, decisions which affected their lives and potentially their careers . but potentially their careers. but friendship working- ” i but friendship working together snettt— friendship working together snettt net— friendship working together should not get— friendship working together should not get in the way of tetnt— should not get in the way of tetnt wntt— should not get in the way of doing what is— should not get in the way of doing what is right. i commend the doing what is right. i commend tne nemetes— doing what is right. i commend the members of— doing what is right. i commend the members of the privileges eemmtttee— the members of the privileges committee for— the members of the privileges committee for their painstaking
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weet— committee for their painstaking weet tnt— committee for their painstaking weet tnt tee— committee for their painstaking work and for their— committee for their painstaking work and for their dignity in tne— work and for their dignity in tne ttee— work and for their dignity in tne ttee et— work and for their dignity in the face of slurs— work and for their dignity in the face of slurs on their tntetetty— the face of slurs on their tntetetty . — the face of slurs on their integrity . to- the face of slurs on their integrity . the face of slurs on their- integrity . to all the members of integrity. to all the members of the committee, this house should, as the leader of the house said, say thank you for your service . thank you for your service. thank you for tetnt— your service. thank you for tetnt wttttnt— your service. thank you for being willing to— ” ti.ts; thank you for being willing to undertake this eete— being willing to undertake this eete .— being willing to undertake this eete . ant— being willing to undertake this role . and particular thanks to role. and particular thanks to the role. and particular thanks to tne tettnt— role. and particular thanks to the right honourable member for etmteewett— the right honourable member for camberwell and— the right honourable member for camberwell and peckham for being wttne— camberwell and peckham for being wttttnt te— camberwell and peckham for being willing to stand— camberwell and peckham for being willing to stand stand up to ente— willing to stand stand up to mm tne— willing to stand stand up to chair the committee when the tent— chair the committee when the right honourable— chair the committee when the right honourable member for tnenttt— right honourable member for rhondda rightly recused himself . tnts— rhondda rightly recused himself . this committee— rhondda rightly recused himself . this committee report matters. tnts— . this committee report matters. tnts tettte— . this committee report matters. this debate matters and this wete— this debate matters and this vote matters.— this debate matters and this vote matters. they matter teetse— vote matters. they matter because they— vote matters. they matter because they strike at the heart part— because they strike at the heart ptet et— because they strike at the heart ptet et tne— because they strike at the heart part of the bond— because they strike at the heart part of the bond of trust and eespeet— part of the bond of trust and respect between _ part of the bond of trust and respect between the public and ptetttment. — respect between the public and parliament. all— respect between the public and parliament. all right. respect between the public and parliament. all right . parliament. all right. can we get et— parliament. all right. can we get et ttts— parliament. all right. can we get off this now?— parliament. all right. can we get off this now? i've had enough. yeah. there we go. right. so, i mean, to be fair, brennan, somebody to brennan, as somebody who used to live theresa live in theresa may's constituency, i know. constituency, obe, i know. i happen there an happen to know that there is an asylum that she's asylum seeker hotel that she's done about done absolutely nothing about and comment on. in
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and refuses to comment on. in fact, the local council just fact, the local council has just gone well there gone lib dem and as well there are massive , massive when are massive, massive issues when it allocation it comes to housing allocation in is this part of the reason why the conservative is in why the conservative party is in trouble? a lot of you trouble? because a lot of you are sitting on not you of course, a lot them are course, but a lot of them are sitting one side of sitting on one side of the house. behaving really house. they're behaving really like they with the people like they agree with the people on of the house. on the other side of the house. well, this is the problem. i do agree with some of that,- i do agree with some of that, in that it agree with some of that, in that t ts— agree with some of that, in that t ts t— agree with some of that, in that it is a difficult- agree with some of that, in that it is a difficult job— agree with some of that, in that it is a difficult job to be in on it is a difficult job to be in en tnese— it is a difficult job to be in on these committees. and you've got on these committees. and you've tet te— on these committees. and you've tet te eespeet— on these committees. and you've got to respect the _ on these committees. and you've got to respect the process. but i got to respect the process. but t-ttse— got to respect the process. but i-also .should- got to respect the process. but i - also - should be - got to respect the process. but i also should be able i think also you should be able to i think also you should be able te-tntt— i think also you should be able to-that process- i think also you should be able to that process and to criticise that process and seettntse— to criticise that process and scrutinise there's scrutinise it when there's semetntnt— scrutinise it when there's something wrong with and something wrong with it. and yet-tt—tetsl something wrong with it. andi yet-tt—tets et you'll see there's been lots of teens— you'll see there's been lots of tneetts te— you'll see there's been lots of threats to backbenchers about speettt— threats to backbenchers about speettt eepeets— threats to backbenchers abouti special reports—for special reports coming out. for nyee— special reports coming out. for anyone—criticise. special reports coming out. forj anyone—criticise it anyone who dares to criticise it tnt— anyone who dares to criticise it tnt se— anyone who dares to criticise it tnt se-tnt— anyone who dares to criticise it and so-and it's— anyone who dares to criticise it and so and it's really and so on. and it's really disappointed— and so on. and it's really disappointed a- and so on. and it's really disappointed a lot of people, tnettttnt— disappointed a lot of people, including myself. yeah, including myself. so yeah, i wettt— including myself. so yeah, i wettt sty— including myself. so yeah, i would say people want to get tnts— would say people want to get tnts ett— would say people want to get tnts ett tne— would say people want to get this out the way,— would say people want to get this out the way, but they wtntet— this out the way, but they wtntetlte — this out the way, but they wanted to done in a fair wanted it to be done in a fair mtttee-t— wanted it to be done in a fair mtnnee-t-tt- wanted it to be done in a fair- manner.-i-if-have manner. and i think if we'd have teen—tene- been convinced it was done tttety— been convinced it was done fairly,-could_ been convinced it was done fairly, could have been fairly, this could have been tene— fairly, this could have been tene tnt— fairly, this could have been done and dusted long time ago. done and dusted a long time ago. ant— done and dusted a long time ago. ant-te— done and dusted a long time ago. and-be focusing- and we could be focusing on tnese— and we could be focusing on- tnese—tntt those more important things that you those more important things that yet—tets- you mentioned. patrick, let's focus on those things now. brendan to wade brendan i think we had to wade through of treacle get
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through a bit of treacle to get to the good stuff, but thankfully we've done now. thankfully we've done that now. so prime so when it comes to prime critizing, british nationals over new arrived migrants for social housing, are you in favour of that ? yeah i think favour of that? yeah i think a lot of people at home would be wondering why we don't already do this and it sounds of a fairly standard thing. of course, if you're a :: eg of course, if you're a citizen, if yete— course, if you're a citizen, if yete t— course, if you're a citizen, if you're a resident,- course, if you're a citizen, if you're a resident, course, if you're a resident, of course, if yete— you're a resident, of course, if you're permanently resident, you do you're permanently resident, you te—ttteeent- do normally have different tents— do normally have different ettnts tnywty. — do normally have different rights anyway. i do normally have different. rights anyway.-i-we rights anyway. but i think we ttse— rights anyway. but i think we ttse neet— rights anyway. but i think we also need to— rights anyway. but i think we also need to make the point. i eeeneeneet t— also need to make the point. i remember i grew— also need to make the point. i remember i grew up in what was the remember i grew up in what was tne ttetest— remember i grew up in what was the largest-estate- remember i grew up in what was the largest estate in the largest council estate in tteepe— the largest council estate in tteepe-tme.- the largest council estate in europe time, and i think europe at the time, and i think you— europe at the time, and i think yet ntte— europe at the time, and i think yet ntwe t— europe at the time, and i think yet ntwe t ntte— europe at the time, and i think you have a huge problem now that if you have a huge problem now that t yete— you have a huge problem now that t yet-eelweettnt— you have a huge problem now that if you're working family, if if you're a working family, if yete— if you're a working family, if yete tn— if you're a working family, if you're in employment, will you're in employment, you will tettttty— you're in employment, you will tettttty-te— you're in employment, you will actually _to-sociall actually struggle to get social netstnt. — actually struggle to get social netstnt. tnt— actually struggle to get social housing. and there's this peeeeptten— housing. and there's this perception just not perception that it's just not ttte— perception that it's just not ttte. vet— perception that it's just not fair. you know,— perception that it's just not fair. you know, there's people stetttttnt— fair. you know, there's people are struggling to— fair. you know, there's people are struggling to on are struggling to get on the netstnt— are struggling to get on the housing ladder,— are struggling to get on the housing ladder, particularly ttttettt— housing ladder, particularly difficult people. difficult for younger people. tney-ee— difficult for younger people. they're—socialj they're locked out of social netstnt. — they're locked out of social netstnt. -tt- they're locked out of social housing. _it as- they're locked out of social housing. it as kind they're locked out of social. housing.-it as kind of housing. they see it as kind of cut housing. they see it as kind of ett et— housing. they see it as kind of ett et tee— housing. they see it as kind of cut off for people— housing. they see it as kind of cut off for people who are on wetttee— cut off for people who are on wetttee tnt— cut off for people who are on welfare and so— cut off for people who are on welfare and so on. and of eetsee-nt- welfare and so on. and of course, have the elderly, course, you have the elderly, tne— course, you have the elderly, tne-tnt— course, you have the elderly, tne-tnt et- course, you have the elderly, the - and of course i course, you have the elderly,- the-and of course you
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the disabled, and of course you meet— the disabled, and of course you neet te— the disabled, and of course you neet te teet— the disabled, and of course you need to look after— the disabled, and of course you need to look after them as well. ntt— need to look after them as well. ttt-tneee— need to look after them as well. but-there needs- need to look after them as well. but-there needs to- need to look after them as well. but there needs to be but i think there needs to be seme—netstnt but i think there needs to be some generally housing but i think there needs to be some generally andiousing but i think there needs to be some generally and that's; but i think there needs to be some generally and that's in market generally and that's in teens— market generally and that's in teens et— market generally and that's in terms of what— market generally and that's in terms of what you build, where you— terms of what you build, where yet tettt— terms of what you build, where yet ttttt tt— terms of what you build, where you build it and— terms of what you build, where you build it and of course where you— you build it and of course where yet ttteette— you build it and of course where you allocate it— you build it and of course where you allocate it as— you build it and of course where you allocate it as well. but yet.— you allocate it as well. but yettleetese— you allocate it as well. but yeah, course british yeah, of course british nationals— yeah, of course british nationals ,— yeah, of course british nationals , if- yeah, of course british nationals , if we're not going to nationals, if we're not going to netse— nationals, if we're not going to netse-ewn— nationals, if we're not going to house-own people- nationals, if we're not going to house own people are. house our own people who are. tett.— house our own people who are. teen-tntt. — house our own people who are. yeah,-that. and- house our own people who are. yeah,-that. and i- house our own people who are. yeah,-that. and i think,| yeah, exactly that. and i think, you know, there's a couple of different to this, different elements to this, isn't the with isn't there, which is the with respect we do have around 1.2 million households a social million households on a social housing waiting list. and i would have thought that somebody who'd paid their taxes been born into this country, who may have fallen times , not fallen on hard times, not necessarily of people necessarily the kind of people who take. who were out there on the take. i you there's bad i mean, you know, there's bad people everywhere you look, of course. average, course. but your average, ordinary, man and ordinary, hard working man and woman , for whatever reason woman who, for whatever reason found needing to be found themselves needing to be in a social housing queue. i think it sticks in the craw a little that somebody might little bit that somebody might come to this country unable to look after themselves who isn't a refugee or an asylum seeker. so it's just economic migrant so it's just an economic migrant at such low end of the at such a low end of the economic spectrum they have economic spectrum that they have to on social housing
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to then rely on social housing and they could be considered more vulnerable than someone who's been here their whole lives . i would thought that lives. i would have thought that that right to that would be the right thing to do, . dodi and why do, really morally. dodi and why have why have governments in the past do you think, been so afraid of putting brits at the top of the queue ? well, it's top of the queue? well, it's a political correctness element, and i've been an immigrant before. i've lived in norway and sweten— before. i've lived in norway and sweten tnt— i've lived in norway and sweden and romania, and i wetttn-t— sweden and romania, and i wouldn't dare— sweden and romania, and i wouldn't dare go to their governments— wouldn't dare go to their governments and ask them to netse— governments and ask them to netse t— governments and ask them to house me. i expect to go over to eentetttte— house me. i expect to go over to eentetttte te — house me. i expect to go over to contribute to society, to pay my ttxes— contribute to society, to pay my ttxes .— contribute to society, to pay my ttxes . ts et— contribute to society, to pay my taxes , as of course— contribute to society, to pay my taxes , as of course many people taxes, as of course many people do taxes, as of course many people te neee.— taxes, as of course many people te neee. tnt— taxes, as of course many people do here, and then— taxes, as of course many people do here, and then they find tnete— do here, and then they find tnete ewn— do here, and then they find their own housing which they pay for their own housing which they pay tee-tnet— their own housing which they pay for-their-pockets- their own housing which they pay for their pockets and for out of their own pockets and tney—tne - for out of their own pockets and they—the economy, they contribute to the economy, wnten— they contribute to the economy, wntenlteett. — they contribute to the economy, which-great. but— they contribute to the economy, which great. but there are which is great. but there are tnese— which is great. but there are tnese-wne- which is great. but there are those _who _thel which is great. but there are- those _who _the queue which is great. but there are those really who the queue which is great. but there are those really addto the queue which is great. but there are those really add much the queue which is great. but there are those really add much . the queue which is great. but there are those really add much . sz queue don't really add much. of course, a lot— don't really add much. of course, a lot of- don't really add much. of course, a lot of our seaside tewns— course, a lot of our seaside tewns tnt— course, a lot of our seaside towns and other- course, a lot of our seaside towns and other places have been teetmttet— towns and other places have been decimated because _ towns and other places have been decimated because the hotel tnttstey— decimated because the hotel tnttstey-ts— decimated because the hotel industry is being industry there is being eemptetety— industry there is being completely packed by people enettnt— completely packed by people enettnt et— completely packed by people cheating our system as well. so i cheating our system as well. so t tnttt— cheating our system as well. so i think there's— cheating our system as well. so i think there's a— cheating our system as well. so i think there's a really, really big i think there's a really, really ttt-tneee— i think there's a really, really ttt-tnee .— i think there's a really, really big there . already i think there's a really, really- big-there .-already have i think there's a really, really bigissue there . already have i think there's a really, really bigissue with'e . already have i think there's a really, really bigissue with our already have i think there's a really, really bigissue with our own .ready have i think there's a really, really bigissue with our own population an issue with our own population and an issue with our own population tnt-tmetnt— an issue with our own population tnt-tmetnt et— an issue with our own population and amount of housing that and the amount of housing that
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we-we-tnt— and the amount of housing that we-we-ant yet— and the amount of housing that we've and you look the we've got. and you look at the net— we've got. and you look at the net mttetten— we've got. and you look at the net migration-and- we've got. and you look at the net migration and you net migration figures and you say,— net migration figures and you sty—ttte- say, really this is quite unsustainable. to be unsustainable. so we need to be ntwnt— unsustainable. so we need to be having conversation having a sensible conversation ttett— having a sensible conversation ttett-.— having a sensible conversation ttett. tnt— having a sensible conversation about . and certainly i about that. and certainly i tnttt— about that. and certainly i think looking- about that. and certainly i think looking after british peepte— think looking after british peepte wne— think looking after british people who need housing is a teet— people who need housing is a teet sttet— people who need housing is a teet sttet. — people who need housing is a good start . yeah.- people who need housing is a good start. “tse e �*ftns;.. people who need housing is a good start . “tse e �*ftns;.. good start. yeah. well, look, thank much, brendan. thank you very much, brendan. great have you the to great to have you on the show to talk those big talk about both of those big issues moment issues at the moment and look after fabulous after yourself and fabulous tie which course just which of course just coincidentally has some kangaroos on it. brendan clarke—smith conservative mp clarke—smith the conservative mp too big topics there. essentially we have got the housing crisis , the mortgage housing crisis, the mortgage crisis , immigration issues, crisis, immigration issues, etcetera , and our mps, including etcetera, and our mps, including at least one former prime minister, are currently in the house of commons dishing it out about boris johnson and partygate and things like integrity. i know whether integrity. i don't know whether or not maybe as a taxpayer or not maybe you as a taxpayer do feel that. yeah, maybe you do think partygate think that partygate was important, maybe you feel as important, but maybe you feel as though they could put as much time energy into some of the time and energy into some of the other that affecting other things that are affecting your as much as your day to day life as much as they giving a boris they are to giving a boris johnson massive kicking on his johnson a massive kicking on his 59th give gb news 59th birthday. give us a gb news .com. that prioritising .com. but on that prioritising
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british nationals first i'm going to have a debate very shortly on whether or not it shouldn't just be social housing where we prioritise brits. it should everything , should should be everything, it should be service should be every public service should it your local gp, it be done, your local gp, should at places? should it be at school places? should brits who come should it be brits who come first? all the time? gb views on gb news .com loads more on this story on our website. gb news .com. it's the fastest growing national news website in the country . all the best analysis, country. all the best analysis, big opinion and the latest breaking news. but when i come back, suella braverman has called on police ramp up the called on police to ramp up the use of controversial stop and search powers. she says it would prevent violence save more prevent violence and save more lives. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's
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dan wootton tonight on tv, radio and online monday to thursday from 9:00 pm till aslef . well, from 9:00 pm till aslef. well, in a few minutes we will- 9 end . .. well, in a few minutes we will be tetttnt— in a few minutes we will be debating whether british people snettt — debating whether british people snettt tet— debating whether british people should get preferential treatment— should get preferential treatment ahead of migrants when it treatment ahead of migrants when t eemes— treatment ahead of migrants when t te— treatment ahead of migrants when it comes to council— treatment ahead of migrants when it comes to council housing. gp tppetntments— it comes to council housing. gp appointments, school places, any ptttte— appointments, school places, any ptttte seetee — appointments, school places, any public sector. it's— appointments, school places, any public sector. it's hot off the ttet— public sector. it's hot off the ttet et— public sector. it's hot off the back of apparently the tories new-et— back of apparently the tories new-et tttne- back of apparently the tories now of giving them now thinking of giving them peteetty— now thinking of giving them peteetty wnen— now thinking of giving them priority when it— now thinking of giving them priority when it comes to social netstnt. — priority when it comes to social housing. should— priority when it comes to social housing. should it— priority when it comes to social housing. should it further housing. should it go further tttn— housing. should it go further tntt-tn— housing. should it go further than-in other- housing. should it go further than in other news, than that? but in other news, stettt— than that? but in other news, suella _called| than that? but in other news,- suella_called on suella braverman has called on pettee— suella braverman has called on pettee te— suella braverman has called on pettee te etmp— suella braverman has called on pettee te etmp tp— suella braverman has called on police to ramp up the use of controversial— police to ramp up the use of controversial stop and search pewes— controversial stop and search pewes te— controversial stop and search powers to prevent violence and save more lives.— powers to prevent violence and save more lives. the home seeeettey— save more lives. the home seeeettey stys— save more lives. the home secretary says officers will use the secretary says officers will use tne pewes— secretary says officers will use the powers have— secretary says officers will use the powers have her full stppen.— the powers have her full support. braverman has singled out support. braverman has singled ett yetnt— support. braverman has singled ett yetnt tttet— support. braverman has singled out young black males who she stys— out young black males who she stys te— out young black males who she says are disproportionately ttteetet— says are disproportionately ttteetet ty— says are disproportionately affected by knife crime. it's ttwtys— affected by knife crime. it's
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always heartbreaking and distressing— always heartbreaking and distressing to— always heartbreaking and distressing to read reports ttett— distressing to read reports about stabbings and shootings. i'm about stabbings and shootings. t-m stttet— about stabbings and shootings. t-m stttet ty— about stabbings and shootings. i'm struck by how— about stabbings and shootings. i'm struck by how often- about stabbings and shootings. i'm struck by how often mothers of murdered young black men say that stop and search could have saved their son's lives. we owe it to them to heed— saved their son's lives. we owe it to them to heed their- . 5ete . we owe it to them to heed their call. me— it to them to heed their call. me ttet— it to them to heed their call. me ttet ts— it to them to heed their call. the fact es are— it to them to heed their call. the fact es are on— it to them to heed their call. the fact es are on their- it to them to heed their call. the fact es are on their side. stop and search works and is a vital tool in the fight against serious violent crime . so i'm serious violent crime. so i'm joined now by ken- . ti. so i'm joined now by ken haynes, who is the joined now by ken haynes, who is tne ente— joined now by ken haynes, who is tne entte et— joined now by ken haynes, who is the chair of haringey's independent- the chair of haringey's independent stop and search mentteetnt— independent stop and search monitoring group. ken thank you weey— monitoring group. ken thank you weey. weey— monitoring group. ken thank you weey. weey nten.— monitoring group. ken thank you very, very much. and great to ntte— very, very much. and great to ntwe yet— very, very much. and great to ntwe yet en— very, very much. and great to have you on the— very, very much. and great to have you on the show, mate. good to have you on the show, mate. good te—teet— have you on the show, mate. good te—teet se- have you on the show, mate. good te—teet se tn- to see you. now look so in tenten— to see you. now look so in london specifically at the mement— london specifically at the moment, apparently only 13% of the moment, apparently only 13% of tne tettt— moment, apparently only 13% of the total population is black. ntt— the total population is black. but unfortunately, 45% of tenten-s— but unfortunately, 45% of london's knife— but unfortunately, 45% of london's knife murder orders are for london's knife murder orders are tee peepte— london's knife murder orders are tee peepte wne— london's knife murder orders are for people who are— london's knife murder orders are for people who are black. when step— for people who are black. when step tnt— for people who are black. when stop and search— for people who are black. when stop and search is— for people who are black. when stop and search is called racist . ts— stop and search is called racist . ts tt— stop and search is called racist . ts tt ee— stop and search is called racist . ts tt ee ts— stop and search is called racist . ts tt ee ts tt— stop and search is called racist . is it or is it actually potentially- . is it or is it actually potentially be disproportionately there
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potentially be— disproportionately there to petenttttty te— disproportionately there to try to disproportionately there to try te netp— disproportionately there to try te netp yetnt— disproportionately there to try to help young black, mostly men? wntt— to help young black, mostly men? wntt te— to help young black, mostly men? wntt te yet— to help young black, mostly men? what do you think— to help young black, mostly men? what do you think personally , what do you think personally, it's what do you think personally, tt-s new— what do you think personally, tt-s new step— what do you think personally, it's how stop and— what do you think personally, it's how stop and search is used tnt— it's how stop and search is used tnt wntt— it's how stop and search is used tnt wntt tts— it's how stop and search is used and what it's used— it's how stop and search is used and what it's used for. it's how stop and search is used and what it's used for . �*ftns; ”c: and what it's used for. we're tett— and what it's used for. we're tett tntt— and what it's used for. we're told that stop— and what it's used for. we're told that stop and search is good for tackling knife crime and finding weapons. but yet less than 2% of the- eet: �*7 e: eg but yet less than 2% of the searches tett— less than 2% of the searches tett te— less than 2% of the searches tett te t— less than 2% of the searches lead to a finding— less than 2% of the searches lead to a finding of a weapon of any— lead to a finding of a weapon of tny ttnt. — lead to a finding of a weapon of tny ttnt. tew— lead to a finding of a weapon of any kind. now you— lead to a finding of a weapon of any kind. now you might say just tettnt— any kind. now you might say just tetttnt ene— any kind. now you might say just getting one knife— any kind. now you might say just getting one knife off the street is getting one knife off the street ts teett. — getting one knife off the street ts teett. ntt— getting one knife off the street ts teett. ttt t— getting one knife off the street is great. but i will argue it tnt— is great. but i will argue it tnt sty— is great. but i will argue it tnt sty tnts— is great. but i will argue it and say this way, not when it ttetnee— and say this way, not when it further alienates_ and say this way, not when it further alienates the very eemmtntty— further alienates the very community that you're saying tneee— community that you're saying tneee. tntt— community that you're saying there, that you're— community that you're saying there, that you're saying you're teytnt— there, that you're saying you're teytnt te— there, that you're saying you're trying to suppm— there, that you're saying you're trying to support -_ there, that you're saying you're trying to support . the there, that you're saying you're trying to support. the simple ttet— trying to support. the simple ttet ts— trying to support. the simple fact is there— trying to support. the simple fact is there is— trying to support. the simple fact is there is no— trying to support. the simple fact is there is no alternative ttt— fact is there is no alternative ttt te— fact is there is no alternative ttt te tet— fact is there is no alternative ttt te tet tn— fact is there is no alternative but to get in good quality eemmtntty— but to get in good quality community intelligence. now yete— community intelligence. now yete net— community intelligence. now yete net tetnt— community intelligence. now you're not going to get that wnen— you're not going to get that wnen .— you're not going to get that wnen . ts— you're not going to get that wnen . ts t— you're not going to get that when , as i said,— you're not going to get that when , as i said, that you're when, as i said, that you're eeettnt— when, as i said, that you're eeettnt tp— when, as i said, that you're rocking up and— when, as i said, that you're rocking up and 80% of your stop tnt— rocking up and 80% of your stop tnt seten— rocking up and 80% of your stop and search leads— rocking up and 80% of your stop and search leads to— rocking up and 80% of your stop and search leads to no further teten— and search leads to no further tetten tnt— and search leads to no further tetten tnt my— and search leads to no further action and my thing is simply tnts—
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action and my thing is simply tnts tt— action and my thing is simply tnts tt etn— action and my thing is simply this it can lead— action and my thing is simply this it can lead to a person tetnt— this it can lead to a person tetnt steppet— this it can lead to a person being stopped and scarred and it can being stopped and scarred and it tett— being stopped and scarred and it tett te— being stopped and scarred and it can lead to further— being stopped and scarred and it can lead to further alienation et— can lead to further alienation version of that— can lead to further alienation version of that very community. tnt— version of that very community. ant tt— version of that very community. ant tt etn— version of that very community. and it can also— version of that very community. and it can also contributed to tne— and it can also contributed to tne te— and it can also contributed to tne te tne— and it can also contributed to the to the violence that that yete— the to the violence that that yete stytnt— the to the violence that that you're saying you're trying to peetent— you're saying you're trying to peewent. tt— you're saying you're trying to prevent. it doesn't help when yete— prevent. it doesn't help when yete tet— prevent. it doesn't help when yete tet t— prevent. it doesn't help when you've got a home secretary wne-s— you've got a home secretary wne-s net— you've got a home secretary wne-s net tt— you've got a home secretary who's not fit for— you've got a home secretary who's not fit for office. that's stys— who's not fit for office. that's stys tntnts— who's not fit for office. that's says things that— who's not fit for office. that's says things that are that's a tettt— says things that are that's a tettt te— says things that are that's a tettt te stytnt— says things that are that's a legal to saying they're ttetettnt— legal to saying they're targeting young black men now tttm— targeting young black men now ttttn wnen— targeting young black men now ttttn wnen we— targeting young black men now again when we see so many um wtees— again when we see so many um wtees en— again when we see so many um videos on social— again when we see so many um videos on social media where the pettee— videos on social media where the pettee te— videos on social media where the pettee tstne— videos on social media where the police are using excessive force on police are using excessive force en yetnt— police are using excessive force on young children— police are using excessive force on young children who will call it adultification_ on young children who will call it adultification and i have serious concerns that i, i tnteesttnt— serious concerns that i, i understand that. / understand that. yeah, i understand that. yeah, i understand that. yeah, i understand that completely. i do also see a lot of videos on social media of police officers being treated like absolute trash , for example, with with no trash, for example, with with no respect. i can see it both ways. what the solution then, ken? what is the solution then, ken? because again, i'm reading a headune because again, i'm reading a headline now, headline here now, black londoners three times more likely to be murdered than other
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ethnic groups . so. so if stop ethnic groups. so. so if stop and search for you isn't the answer, what is ? yes. you know , answer, what is? yes. you know, i answer, what is? yes. you know, t eettty— answer, what is? yes. you know, t eettty tm— answer, what is? yes. you know, i really am concerned- 57 yes. you know, i really am concerned also about the i really am concerned also about tne teeet— i really am concerned also about tne tewet et— i really am concerned also about the level of disrespect that tntt— the level of disrespect that tntt yetnt— the level of disrespect that that young people are showing the that young people are showing tne pettee— that young people are showing the police who— that young people are showing the police who are trying to do a the police who are trying to do t ttttettt— the police who are trying to do a difficult job.— the police who are trying to do a difficult job. but my thing is stmpty— a difficult job. but my thing is stmpty tnts— a difficult job. but my thing is stmpty tnts .— a difficult job. but my thing is simply this . the— a difficult job. but my thing is simply this . the police had had simply this. the police had had tene— simply this. the police had had tene t— simply this. the police had had tene t peep-eet— simply this. the police had had done a project with myself , we done a project with myself, we etttet— done a project with myself, we called positive _ done a project with myself, we called positive spaces, where tney— called positive spaces, where tney ntte— called positive spaces, where they have people my group go tnte— they have people my group go tnte tnese— they have people my group go into these hotspot areas and tettttty— into these hotspot areas and actually engage— into these hotspot areas and actually engage with the young peepte— actually engage with the young peepte wne— actually engage with the young peepte wne mty— actually engage with the young people who may be involved in tnt—seettt— people who may be involved in anti—social behaviour or even smettnt— anti—social behaviour or even smettnt t— anti—social behaviour or even smettnt t tt— anti—social behaviour or even smoking a bit of— anti—social behaviour or even smoking a bit of weed. so what we te— smoking a bit of weed. so what we te. we— smoking a bit of weed. so what we do, we have— smoking a bit of weed. so what we do, we have a— smoking a bit of weed. so what we do, we have a conversation wttn— we do, we have a conversation wttn ttem— we do, we have a conversation wttn tnem tnt— we do, we have a conversation with them and we— we do, we have a conversation with them and we change their tttttte. — with them and we change their attitude. what— with them and we change their attitude. what that does it, it steps— attitude. what that does it, it steps tne— attitude. what that does it, it stops the need— attitude. what that does it, it stops the need for the police to tnte— stops the need for the police to come into that— stops the need for the police to come into that space. so it's it teees— come into that space. so it's it tees tp— come into that space. so it's it tees tp tne— come into that space. so it's it frees up the police— come into that space. so it's it frees up the police time to ttette — frees up the police time to tackle more— frees up the police time to tackle more serious crime. okay. tew— tackle more serious crime. okay. tew tm— tackle more serious crime. okay. tew t-m ttt— tackle more serious crime. okay. tew t-m ttt tn— tackle more serious crime. okay. now i'm all in favour for ttetttnt— now i'm all in favour for tackling, for— now i'm all in favour for tackling, for getting knives and ttns— tackling, for getting knives and ttns et—
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tackling, for getting knives and ttns et et— tackling, for getting knives and guns off our streets, but i'm net— guns off our streets, but i'm net tn— guns off our streets, but i'm not in favour— guns off our streets, but i'm not in favour for— guns off our streets, but i'm not in favour for you , for the not in favour for you, for the pettee— not in favour for you, for the pettee te— not in favour for you, for the police to rock— not in favour for you, for the police to rock up— not in favour for you, for the police to rock up on young peepte— police to rock up on young peepte wne— police to rock up on young people who are— police to rock up on young people who are innocent, put ttem— people who are innocent, put tnem tnte— people who are innocent, put them into handcuffs and further tettmttse— them into handcuffs and further traumatise them— them into handcuffs and further traumatise them emotionally and pnystettty— traumatise them emotionally and pnystettty .— traumatise them emotionally and pnystettty . wetn— traumatise them emotionally and physically . yeah. that's the physically. yeah. that's the enty— physically. yeah. that's the enty wty. — physically. yeah. that's the enty wty. wet— physically. yeah. that's the only way. you can only work with a only way. you can only work with t eemmtntty— only way. you can only work with a community that— only way. you can only work with a community that as you said, disproportionately affected by the violence. _ disproportionately affected by the violence. is— disproportionately affected by the violence. ”t.etss; e the violence. is there an argument , the violence. is there an argument, ken, as the violence. is there an argument , ken, as well, to say argument, ken, as well, to say that the parents are partly to blame for this? because people say this, you know, what on earth is your child doing out on the streets at night with a knife in a gang or whatever? i mean, where are the parents? let's look . i work with some of let's look. i work with some of tnese— let's look. i work with some of tnese pteents— let's look. i work with some of these parents and— let's look. i work with some of these parents and some of these pteents— these parents and some of these pteents te— these parents and some of these parents are screaming out for stppeet. — parents are screaming out for stppeet. ntt— parents are screaming out for stppeet. ntt tne— parents are screaming out for support. but the support doesn't tent— support. but the support doesn't tent te— support. but the support doesn't tent te te— support. but the support doesn't tend to be there. _ support. but the support doesn't tend to be there. they've got sent— tend to be there. they've got social service— tend to be there. they've got social service involved . they've social service involved. they've tettttty— social service involved. they've actually actually— social service involved. they've actually actually ring the pettee— actually actually ring the pettee tp— actually actually ring the police up reporting that their ettt— police up reporting that their enttt ts— police up reporting that their child is missing.— police up reporting that their child is missing. but yet, you mew— child is missing. but yet, you knew .— child is missing. but yet, you knew . wnen— child is missing. but yet, you know , when a— child is missing. but yet, you know , when a child is suffering know, when a child is suffering eeetttn— know, when a child is suffering eeetttn tm— know, when a child is suffering certain, um, trauma or they've got— certain, um, trauma or they've
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tet eeetttn— certain, um, trauma or they've tet eeetttn .— certain, um, trauma or they've tet eeetttn . yet— certain, um, trauma or they've got certain , you know, their got certain, you know, their tettet— got certain, you know, their tettet tts— got certain, you know, their belief it's the - got certain, you know, their belief it's the about getting tnwewet— belief it's the about getting involved with— belief it's the about getting involved with with the gangs it's involved with with the gangs tt-s weey— involved with with the gangs it's very difficult patrick to ttnt — it's very difficult patrick to ttnt t— it's very difficult patrick to find a solution.— it's very difficult patrick to find a solution. but to blame tne— find a solution. but to blame tne tttme— find a solution. but to blame the blame the— find a solution. but to blame the blame the parent it doesn't sttet— the blame the parent it doesn't sttet tneee. — the blame the parent it doesn't start there. we've— the blame the parent it doesn't start there. we've got to stppeet— start there. we've got to stppeet tne — start there. we've got to support the parent in helping ttem— support the parent in helping tnem te— support the parent in helping them to have— support the parent in helping them to have better control of tnete— them to have better control of tnete enttt. — them to have better control of their child. it— them to have better control of their child. it also- them to have better control of their child. it also doesn't netp— their child. it also doesn't netp wnen— their child. it also doesn't help when they've been lowly pttt— help when they've been lowly pttt tnt— help when they've been lowly pttt tnt tney— help when they've been lowly paid and they might be doing 2 or paid and they might be doing 2 ee s— paid and they might be doing 2 ee s tets— paid and they might be doing 2 ee s tets se— paid and they might be doing 2 or 3 jobs, so they're not even tneee— or 3 jobs, so they're not even tneee te — or 3 jobs, so they're not even there to supervise— or 3 jobs, so they're not even there to supervise their etttteen— there to supervise their children. in— there to supervise their children. in many cases . children. in many cases. look, kent— children. in many cases. look, ten. mtnt— children. in many cases. look, ten. tttnt yet— children. in many cases. look, ken, thank you very, very much . ken, thank you very, very much. and i can't help but notice that the little strap line in the top left hand corner of your screen there to that you're there appears to say that you're in trinidad. so i hope you're having time . in trinidad. so i hope you're having time. um, i having a wonderful time. um, i mean, my invite my mean, yeah, my invite was my invite so i did put it invite was lost. so i did put it out there, but it must have got lost in the translation. oh, there you go . over here. and lost in the translation. oh,- there you go . over here. and you there you go. over here. and you are welcome any— there you go. over here. and you are welcome any time into my neme— are welcome any time into my neme tn— are welcome any time into my home in trinidad.— are welcome any time into my home in trinidad. fantastic all ttnt.— home in trinidad. fantastic all ttnt. teet— home in trinidad. fantastic all right. look after— home in trinidad. fantastic all right. look after yourself. take care. ken haynes is the chair of haringey's independent. stop and search from
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search monitoring group from the wonderful i've wonderful trinidad. anyway, i've got riviera out got the paddington riviera out here, we go. look, here, but there we go. look, loads come loads more still to come between now we debate now and 6:00, we will debate whether brits should get preferential treatment when it comes to doctor's appointments and other essential services. so not social housing. is it not just social housing. is it time to brits at the time to put brits right at the top of the queue? loads of emails i'd to see emails on this. i'd love to see it. vaiews@gbnews.com go to it. vaiews@gbnews.com or go to those now those shortly. but right now it's headlines polly . it's your headlines with polly. patrick. thank you. let's bring you— patrick. thank you. let's bring you up— patrick. thank you. let's bring yet tp te— patrick. thank you. let's bring yet tp te ttte— patrick. thank you. let's bring you up to date then— is thank you. let's bring you up to date then on what's ntppentnt— you up to date then on what's ntppentnt tn— you up to date then on what's happening in the— you up to date then on what's happening in the house of eemmem— happening in the house of commons right— happening in the house of commons right now. they're tetttnt— commons right now. they're debating-report- commons right now. they're debating report that debating on the report that tetnt— debating on the report that found _johnson- debating on the report that found johnson lied over found boris johnson lied over ptetyttte— found boris johnson lied over ptetyttte. tet-s— found boris johnson lied over partygate. let's take you live to partygate. let's take you live te tne— partygate. let's take you live te tne netse— partygate. let's take you live to the house of— partygate. let's take you live to the house of commons, check on to the house of commons, check en-ntppentnt— to the house of commons, check en-ntppentnt .- to the house of commons, check en-ntppentnt . we- to the house of commons, check on happening . we can on what's happening. we can see if on what's happening. we can see tt yete— on what's happening. we can see if you're watching— on what's happening. we can see if you're watching television if you're watching on television _te stttl . of course, the mps are still tttttnt— . of course, the mps are still talking about— . of course, the mps are still talking about the— . of course, the mps are still talking about the report and teetttnt— talking about the report and deciding whether or not their ttneten— deciding whether or not their function today— deciding whether or not their function today is— deciding whether or not their function today is to decide wnetnee— function today is to decide wnetnee ee— function today is to decide whether or not— function today is to decide whether or not they should stnetten — whether or not they should sanction the _ whether or not they should sanction the former prime ttntstee— sanction the former prime minister. that's after the tetwttetes— minister. that's after the privileges committee last week tetnt — privileges committee last week tetnt tntt— privileges committee last week found that boris— privileges committee last week found that boris johnson eepettet— found that boris johnson repeated he— found that boris johnson repeated he misled the house of
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eeemnens we— repeated he misled the house of commons. we have— repeated he misled the house of commons. we have heard in the ttst— commons. we have heard in the ttst nete— commons. we have heard in the last hour that— commons. we have heard in the last hour that the— commons. we have heard in the last hour that the commons tettee— last hour that the commons leader, penny— last hour that the commons leader, penny mordaunt, said she wettt— leader, penny mordaunt, said she wettt wete— leader, penny mordaunt, said she wettt wete tn— leader, penny mordaunt, said she would vote in favour of the eepeet— would vote in favour of the eepeet tnte— would vote in favour of the report into johnson's conduct. we report into johnson's conduct. we ttse— report into johnson's conduct. we ttse stw— report into johnson's conduct. we also saw the— report into johnson's conduct. we also saw the former prime ttntstee— we also saw the former prime minister theresa— we also saw the former prime minister theresa may support stppeettnt— minister theresa may support stppeettnt tne— minister theresa may support supporting the outcome of the petwtetes— supporting the outcome of the privileges privileges committee's inquiry. privileges privileges committee's inquiry . well number committee's inquiry. well number ten nts— committee's inquiry. well number ten has refused— committee's inquiry. well number ten has refused to— committee's inquiry. well number ten has refused to comment . they ten has refused to comment. they say ten has refused to comment. they sty ttsnt — ten has refused to comment. they sty ttsnt stntt— ten has refused to comment. they say rishi sunak skipping this tettte— say rishi sunak skipping this debate because— say rishi sunak skipping this debate because he doesn't want to debate because he doesn't want te tnttenee— debate because he doesn't want to influence the— debate because he doesn't want to influence the outcome of any teetsten— to influence the outcome of any decision that's— to influence the outcome of any decision that's made. we'll keep an decision that's made. we'll keep tn eye— decision that's made. we'll keep tn eye en— decision that's made. we'll keep tn eye en tntt.— decision that's made. we'll keep an eye on that. partygate debate for an eye on that. partygate debate tee yet. — an eye on that. partygate debate tee yet. tew— an eye on that. partygate debate tee yet. wew tne— an eye on that. partygate debate for you. now the metropolitan tettee— for you. now the metropolitan tettee nts— for you. now the metropolitan police has confirmed it's teetmt— police has confirmed it's. looking-potential looking into three potential teetenes— looking into three potential breaches of— looking into three potential breaches of covid regulations tetween— breaches of covid regulations tetween .— breaches of covid regulations between . june— breaches of covid regulations between . june 2020 and may 2021 between. june 2020 and may 2021 at between. june 2020 and may 2021 tt tewntnt— between. june 2020 and may 2021 at downing street— between. june 2020 and may 2021 at downing street and at enettees— at downing street and at enettees .— at downing street and at chequers . that's after the chequers. that's after the newsptpee— chequers. that's after the newspaper the- chequers. that's after the newspaper the sunday mirror got a newspaper the sunday mirror got tttee— newspaper the sunday mirror got twtee tn— newspaper the sunday mirror got twtee tn tts— newspaper the sunday mirror got a video in its position in its pessessten— a video in its position in its possession, rather, showing teettte— possession, rather, showing footage apparently of conservative staff partying ttetnt— conservative staff partying ttetnt tne— conservative staff partying during the pandemic. nick joking ttett— during the pandemic. nick joking about restrictions— during the pandemic. nick joking about restrictions ,— during the pandemic. nick joking about restrictions , rishi sunak about restrictions, rishi sunak tttn— about restrictions, rishi sunak ttttn. stytnt— about restrictions, rishi sunak ttttn. stytnt ne— about restrictions, rishi sunak again, saying he doesn't want to eemmem— again, saying he doesn't want to comment on this— again, saying he doesn't want to comment on this because he teesn-t— comment on this because he teesn-t wtnt— comment on this because he doesn't want to _ comment on this because he doesn't want to interfere in mtttees— doesn't want to interfere in mtttees .— doesn't want to interfere in matters . now,— doesn't want to interfere in matters . now, the tour firm
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matters. now, the tour firm eeetnttte — matters. now, the tour firm oceangate has— matters. now, the tour firm oceangate has confirmed that one of oceangate has confirmed that one et tts— oceangate has confirmed that one et tts wessest— oceangate has confirmed that one of its vessels and— oceangate has confirmed that one of its vessels and crew are mtsstnt— of its vessels and crew are mtsstnt tn— of its vessels and crew are missing in the— of its vessels and crew are missing in the north atlantic. tne— missing in the north atlantic. tne tts— missing in the north atlantic. the us coastguard earlier told gb the us coastguard earlier told en tews— the us coastguard earlier told en tews tntt— the us coastguard earlier told gb news that a— the us coastguard earlier told gb news that a submersible that was gb news that a submersible that ttttnt— gb news that a submersible that was taking tourists— gb news that a submersible that was taking tourists to the site of was taking tourists to the site et tne — was taking tourists to the site of the titanic— was taking tourists to the site of the titanic wreck is missing. tne— of the titanic wreck is missing. tne tts— of the titanic wreck is missing. tne tts ttset— of the titanic wreck is missing. the us based company offers wtstts— the us based company offers wtstts te— the us based company offers visits to the— the us based company offers visits to the area— the us based company offers visits to the area where the tttnte— visits to the area where the titanic lies— visits to the area where the titanic lies more- visits to the area where the titanic lies more than 12,000ft tetew— titanic lies more than 12,000ft tetew tne— titanic lies more than 12,000ft below the surface— titanic lies more than 12,000ft below the surface of the ttttnte— below the surface of the atlantic ocean. more on that , of atlantic ocean. more on that, of course, as those _ atlantic ocean. more on that, of course, as those dribs and drabs of course, as those dribs and drabs et news— course, as those dribs and drabs et te— course, as those dribs and drabs of news come to us. _ course, as those dribs and drabs of news come to us. but here pettee— of news come to us. but here pettee ntte— of news come to us. but here police have broken up an ttttnttn— police have broken up an albanian gang that allegedly teetett— albanian gang that allegedly brought migrants into the uk on smttt— brought migrants into the uk on smttt tetts— brought migrants into the uk on smttt tetts .— brought migrants into the uk on small boats . three members of small boats. three members of the small boats. three members of tne eme— small boats. three members of tne teetp— small boats. three members of the crime group were arrested in etts— the crime group were arrested in ettts etety— the crime group were arrested in raids early this— the crime group were arrested in raids early this morning. if yete— raids early this morning. if you're watching on television, you— you're watching on television, yet etn— you're watching on television, you can see pictures from the tttentt— you can see pictures from thei national—making national crime agency making tnese— national crime agency making those arrests. _ national crime agency making those arrests. gb— national crime agency making those arrests. gb news understands- those arrests. gb news understands the group has been entettnt— understands the group has been charging migrants more than smoo- — charging migrants more than smoo- t— charging migrants more than £7,000. a journey . those arrests £7,000. a journey. those arrests eemmt— £7,000. a journey. those arrests eemtnt ts— £7,000. a journey. those arrests coming as nearly— £7,000. a journey. those arrests coming as nearly 11,000 migrants eeset— coming as nearly 11,000 migrants eeset tne— coming as nearly 11,000 migrants crossed the channel in small teetts— crossed the channel in small tetts stnee— crossed the channel in small boats since the— crossed the channel in small boats since the start of this yete. — boats since the start of this yete. tteee — boats since the start of this yete. tteee en— boats since the start of this year. more on all those stories. tett— year. more on all those stories. tett new— year. more on all those stories. tett te— year. more on all those stories. head now to our— year. more on all those stories.
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ntt— comes to social housing. fine. ttt tt— comes to social housing. fine. ttt tt tet— comes to social housing. fine. ntt tt get me— comes to social housing. fine. but it got me thinking. should eetts— but it got me thinking. should brits-preferential- brits not get preferential teettment— brits not get preferential treatment single brits not get preferential- treatment-single other treatment in every single other ttet-well?— treatment in every single other area-well? doctors- area as well? doctors appointments, waiting area as well? doctors— appointments,-waiting lists, appointments, nhs waiting lists, eteeteet. — appointments, nhs waiting lists, etcetera. let's— appointments, nhs waiting lists, etcetera. let's get— appointments, nhs waiting lists, etcetera. let's get the opinions et— etcetera. let's get the opinions et tn— etcetera. let's get the opinions now of an affordable housing petetst— now of an affordable housing petetst .— now of an affordable housing podcast . co—host chris worrall. podcast. co—host chris worrall. teepeety— podcast. co—host chris worrall. teepeety eepeet— podcast. co—host chris worrall. property expert russell quirk tnt— property expert russell quirk tnt ntmtn— property expert russell quirk and human rights lawyer shoaib tntm— and human rights lawyer shoaib tntn .— and human rights lawyer shoaib tntn . enets.— and human rights lawyer shoaib khan . chris, i'll— and human rights lawyer shoaib khan . chris, i'll start with khan. chris, i'll start with yet.— khan. chris, i'll start with yet. wny— khan. chris, i'll start with yet. wny nete— khan. chris, i'll start with you. why not? do you think that ttts— you. why not? do you think that netts snettt— you. why not? do you think that brits should get— you. why not? do you think that brits should get priority not for brits should get priority not tee ttst— brits should get priority not for just housing, but for every etnee— for just housing, but for every etnee ptttte— for just housing, but for every other public service as well ? other public service as well? now:— other public service as well? new. t— other public service as well? tew. t ttnt— other public service as well? now, i think it's— other public service as well? now, i think it's a— other public service as well? now, i think it's a bit- other public service as well? now, i think it's a bit of- other public service as well? now, i think it's a bit of a loaded question, to be honest with you. i think we need to be peteetttstnt— with you. i think we need to be prioritising based— with you. i think we need to be prioritising based on— i think we need to be prioritising based on need. �*ftns; prioritising based on need. we sent— prioritising based on need. we sent te— prioritising based on need. we can't be having— prioritising based on need. we can't be having sort— prioritising based on need. we can't be having sort of- prioritising based on need. we can't be having sort of 1.2- can't be having sort of 1.2 million on a housing waiting list , people that million on a housing waiting list, people that might be, you know, have indefinite to know, have indefinite leave to remain working country. remain working in this country. then because then being prioritised because of are not prioritised because of are not prioritised because of their passport really. i mean , the main thing— of their passport really. i mean , the main thing that- . iee. i mean , the main thing that we've got a , the main thing that we've got t peettem— , the main thing that we've got a problem here— , the main thing that we've got a problem here is— , the main thing that we've got a problem here is we a problem here is that we ain't got a problem here is that we ain't tet-netstnt. - a problem here is that we ain't tet-netstnt. .youi a problem here is that we ain't- got-housing. .you know got enough housing. and you know lteet— got enough housing. and you know , look sadiq khan record , you look at sadiq khan record in he's built 20,000 in london, he's built 20,000 council homes while the conservatives that conservatives and before that 2019, 2018, they're building like 2600in total. so the real issue is building—
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like 2600in total. so the real issue is building more- . $7600 e so the real issue is building more social netstnt— issue is building more social netstnt tnt— issue is building more social housing and we— issue is building more social housing and we haven't got that on housing and we haven't got that en tne— housing and we haven't got that en tne ttentt— housing and we haven't got that on the agenda under the tories at on the agenda under the tories tt tne— on the agenda under the tories at the minute. _ on the agenda under the tories at the minute. and- on the agenda under the tories at the minute. 'et: .. . tgts;. at the minute. and until we get that populist policies like this are just, you know , not really are just, you know, not really going solving much . okay, going to be solving much. okay, russell, i'll throw it over- going to be solving much. okay, russell, i'll throw it over to- russell, i'll throw it over to yet.— russell, i'll throw it over to. yet—t you. you are predominantly a property— you. you are predominantly a peepeety-ttt- you. you are predominantly a property-but but- you. you are predominantly a property but but also, property expert, but but also, wnen— property expert, but but also, wnen-te— property expert, but but also, when-to things- property expert, but but also, when to things like gp when it comes to things like gp tppetntments— when it comes to things like gp appointments, when it comes to tntnts— things like school places, eteeteet— things like school places, etcetera, .you - things like school places, etcetera, you think that etcetera, do you think that tnese— etcetera, do you think that tnese-te - etcetera, do you think that those be prioritised those should be prioritised for peepte— people who are already living teeet— people who are already living neeee ttte— people who are already living here? have been— people who are already living here? have been here for a good ntmete— here? have been here for a good ntmteelyetes— here? have been here for a good number-years,-into- here? have been here for a good number years, into the number of years, paid into the system.— number of years, paid into the system. ee— number of years, paid into the system, or should— number of years, paid into the system, or should it actually ttst— system, or should it actually just-absolutely- just be for absolutely everybody wne-s—tnt- just be for absolutely everybody wne-s—tntittti just be for absolutely everybody. who's_and.all start who's come here and we all start teem— who's come here and we all start teem tne— who's come here and we all start from the moment— who's come here and we all start from the moment that we are tettnt— from the moment that we are arriving-these— from the moment that we are arriving these shores an arriving on these shores and an tntetntte— arriving on these shores and an indefinite-remain- arriving on these shores and an indefinite remain ? well indefinite leave to remain? well i indefinite leave to remain? well t tnttt— indefinite leave to remain? well t tntnt tne— indefinite leave to remain? well i think the adage— indefinite leave to remain? well i think the adage ,— indefinite leave to remain? well i think the adage , patrick, that i think the adage, patrick, that entetty— i think the adage, patrick, that entetty teetms— i think the adage, patrick, that charity begins at— i think the adage, patrick, that charity begins at home is a eeeeeet— charity begins at home is a correct one in— charity begins at home is a correct one in this scenario . correct one in this scenario. tttntty— correct one in this scenario. tttntty. t— correct one in this scenario. frankly, i think— correct one in this scenario. frankly, i think people that have paid into the system and whose parents, grandparents and great grandparents have paid into the system by way of taxation for decades and generations , of course, should generations, of course, should have priority . how can it be have priority. how can it be that you know, a single mother with a couple of kids is on the
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1.2 million people waiting list for years and years and years, and yet somebody that comes over on a dinghy with no passport illegally is given priority over that person. this is not a question of passport. it's this is a question of domestic patriotic dignity. frankly and i can't believe that we're having this debate now where the government, after all of this time, and given what the debate has, how the debate has ensued with regard to illegal immigration over last few immigration over the last few weeks i can't weeks and months, i can't believe we're only believe we're now only now thinking about prioritising people that have been in this country and have paid country for life and have paid into rather than into the system rather than frankly, that otherwise frankly, people that otherwise eyes will be attracted to come here as an illegal migrant and will gain the system. all right, shoaib , i'll bring in now as shoaib, i'll bring you in now as a rights lawyer, would the a human rights lawyer, would the human somebody who has human rights of somebody who has just here, but is quotes just arrived here, but is quotes and quotes more vulnerable than somebody live and, you somebody who has live and, you know, been brought up here and paid their taxes here? why should the human- t: . 7 why should the human rights of a new teetwtt— should the human rights of a new teetwtt tetmp— should the human rights of a new arrival trump human rights should the human rights of a new aria al trump human rights should the human rights of a new aria al trun single human rights should the human rights of a new aria al trunsingle mum�*i rights should the human rights of a new aria al trunsingle mum somewhere of a young single mum somewhere in of a young single mum somewhere
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tn-sty— of a young single mum somewhere tn-sty — of a young single mum somewhere tn-sty wett— of a young single mum somewhere in _say well, firstly,- in hackney? say well, firstly, i mean, i don't think they should. i think they need to be both treated equally and properly. the point is we've got this the point is we've got to this point government is point because this government is such and such a such a failure and such a disaster afford disaster and they can't afford to feed their people or give them accommodation. and that's why we them accommodation. and that's wny we ntte— them accommodation. and that's wny we ntwe te— them accommodation. and that's why we have to compete- ii:e and that's why we have to compete to get a eetnett— why we have to compete to get a eetnett netse. — why we have to compete to get a council house. _ why we have to compete to get a council house. obviously, that shouldn't be the situation. but the point then is, i mean, obviously, for instance, we have tens ukrainians tens of thousands of ukrainians coming over now. then should it have been if i needed a gp appointment or regular routine appointment, fit appointment, a healthy fit person taxpayer in the uk born and brought up in the uk, should i over i have been prioritised over ukrainian single mother just ukrainian single motherjust bringing her? i don't think bringing in her? i don't think we should i think the we should have. i think the ukrainians should have been and they prioritised they probably were prioritised where to we made where they needed to be. we made space, know, we found space space, you know, we found space for thousands of them. for tens of thousands of them. and how it should for tens of thousands of them. and been how it should for tens of thousands of them. and been . okay. low it should for tens of thousands of them. and been . okay. so it should for tens of thousands of them. and been . okay. so that'suld for tens of thousands of them. and been . okay. so that's a d have been. okay. so that's a tmteestt— have been. okay. so that's a universal values— e okay. so that's a universal values question there. enets.— universal values question there. enets-tt— universal values question there. enets.-tt ttet- universal values question there. chris,-it back to- chris, i'll throw it back to you in chris, i'll throw it back to you tn-et— chris, i'll throw it back to you tn-et tne— chris, i'll throw it back to you in -of the fact— chris, i'll throw it back to you in -of the fact that- chris, i'll throw it back to you in of the fact that we are in light of the fact that we are stnttttety— in light of the fact that we are stnttttety net— in light of the fact that we are singularly not building enough netses— houses when it comes to the seettt—teei social housing question, are you sttt— social housing question, are you stttt-ttttnst— social housing question, are you still-against-of. still dead against the idea of
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peteetttstnt— still dead against the idea of peteetttstnt-e— still dead against the idea of prioritising-? i'm- still dead against the idea of prioritising ? i'm i'm for prioritising brits? i'm i'm for tettnt— prioritising brits? i'm i'm for treating everyone equally. i mean, you know,— treating everyone equally. i mean, you know, the- treating everyone equally. i mean, you know, the fact that we've had misinformation here from russell about how illegal immigrants prioritised immigrants get prioritised first, case. you first, that's not the case. you got living area two got to be living in the area two yetes— got to be living in the area two yetes-yet— got to be living in the area two yetes-yet neet- got to be living in the area two years-you need is- got to be living in the area two years you need is that got to be living in the area two yeairequire you need is that got to be living in the area two yeairequire it ou need is that got to be living in the area two yeairequire it because is that got to be living in the area two yeairequire it because you're you require it because you're ttstttet— you require it because you're ttstttet ee— you require it because you're disabled or you— you require it because you're disabled or you in an disabled or you live in an overcrowded _ disabled or you live in an overcrowded you know , victim overcrowded or you know, victim of overcrowded or you know, victim et—teesn-tl of domestic abuse, it doesn't mtttee— of domestic abuse, it doesn't mtttee-yete- of domestic abuse, it doesn't matter you're black, matter whether you're black, wntte. — matter whether you're black, white, - british, - white, foreign, british, you knew— white, foreign, british, you mew-yet-we- white, foreign, british, you know you've indefinite know, if you've got indefinite tette— know, if you've got indefinite leave-remain,— know, if you've got indefinite leave remain, qualify leave to remain, you qualify ttset— leave to remain, you qualify based-system- leave to remain, you qualify based system that based on a need system that teetts— based on a need system that treats-equally. . based on a need system that. treats-equally. that treats everyone equally. that mtst— treats everyone equally. that must-ptetty- treats everyone equally. that must-ptetty .- treats everyone equally. that must priority . we've got must be the priority. we've got michael out here to like michael gove out here to like waving the leaflets around, say, scrapping housing targets, protecting the greenbelt. you know, these populist policies have been tried before by the liberals. democrats in tower ttmtets— liberals. democrats in tower ttmtets teytnt— liberals. democrats in tower hamlets trying-put- . democrats in tower hamlets trying put all the hamlets trying to put all the bangladeshis— bangladeshis on boats never weetet. — bangladeshis on boats never. worked. _decent worked. most common, decent people think we should treat people think we should treat people equally and that's why it should housing. should be social housing. all right , russell, i'll throw right, russell, i'll throw it over does seem over to you. it does seem peneese— over to you. it does seem peneeselme.- it does seem perverse me, though. over to you. it does seem perverse-me, though. got perverse to me, though. i've got to perverse to me, though. i've got telnenest— perverse to me, though. i've got telnenest-yet.- to be honest with you, that someone this someone could be fought for this eetntey— someone could be fought for this eetntey-sty— someone could be fought for this country-say have- country in iraq. say have tewetepet— country in iraq. say have developed mental health problems as developed mental health problems tste—tw- as a result and, you know, sttetet— as a result and, you know, started drinking, etcetera, as unfortunately— started drinking, etcetera, as unfortunately-of- started drinking, etcetera, as unfortunately of people unfortunately plenty of people do unfortunately plenty of people te—tetwe— unfortunately plenty of people do_leave-forces| do when they leave the forces
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wttn — do when they leave the forces wttn t— do when they leave the forces with a mental— do when they leave the forces with a mental health problem. do when they leave the forces with they ental health problem. do when they leave the forces withthey are l health problem. do when they leave the forces with they are struggling oblem. do when they leave the forces withthey are struggling to .em. do when they leave the forces with they are struggling to get and they are struggling to get a netse— and they are struggling to get a netse ee— and they are struggling to get a house or a gp's— and they are struggling to get a house or a gp's appointment. but someone who has— house or a gp's appointment. but someone who has come here, even tetttty— someone who has come here, even tetttty-ts— someone who has come here, even tetttty-ts-ttte— someone who has come here, even legally-is-able to- legally but is not able to financially— legally but is not able to financially support themselves and financially support themselves tnt tet— financially support themselves and we've let them in legally. they— and we've let them in legally. tney etn— and we've let them in legally. tney tet— and we've let them in legally. they can get ahead of them in the they can get ahead of them in tne ttetes— they can get ahead of them in the queues for— they can get ahead of them in the queues for variety, different _ the queues for variety, different things. are different things. there are something like 2000 veterans on the as speak , and i the streets as we speak, and i don't hear chris trying to prioritise above prioritise those over and above what effectively what he's what is effectively what he's advocating a for free all advocating is a for free all open door policy. sorry, can i just ask what sorry, can i just ask what think is ask what do you think is rubbish? chris? because a of rubbish? chris? because a lot of peepte—tts— rubbish? chris? because a lot of peepte—tts ttte- people know what it's like teetse— people know what it's like because l lot _ people know what it's like becausellot of- people know what it's like because lot of people will because a lot of people will tnt—enetsi find it quite offensive, chris tntt— find it quite offensive, chris. tntt—ttttntnt that you appear to be laughing at that you appear to be laughing tteeetns-t - at homeless veterans. atsetttety— at homeless veterans. absolutely absurd. - at homeless veterans. absolutely absurd. this is his claim aren't claim that veterans aren't prioritised. they are prioritised- prioritised. they are prioritised .- . : they are prioritised . that is how the prioritised. that is how the system — prioritised. that is how the system works— prioritised. that is how the system works . - prioritised. that is how the system works . e. ”c: system works. they're already you know, you're homeless , you know, you're homeless, you're prioritised. it's not a case , you you're prioritised. it's not a case., you know,- ”c: . : it's not a case , you know, pitching case of, you know, pitching tnttst— case of, you know, pitching british veterans— case of, you know, pitching british veterans against unfortunate— british veterans against unfortunate . e7tst ee.ts;.g british veterans against- unfortunate . unfortunately, you unfortunate. unfortunately, you are wrong about that . yeah. and are wrong about that. yeah. and i'll go on i'll i'll give i'm going to give the last word to i'm going to give the last word to on because we're
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to shoaib on this because we're running out of time. on running out of time. but go on show you're itching to get involved. yeah, i involved. yeah, no, sorry. i tnttt— involved. yeah, no, sorry. i think-actually- : yeah, no, sorry. i think actually really a think that's actually really a teett—petntl think that's actually really ai tett—petnt ts. great example. the point is, yes, british veterans, but other afghan veterans, they're not british. after they sacrificed them over after they sacrificed their and fought for us their families and fought for us and did everything that british veterans when they come veterans did. and when they come here, the here, why are they back of the queue? right at queue? they should be right at the front. but they've suffered ptsd they've suffered ptsd as well. they've suffered all problems . it shouldn't all these problems. it shouldn't matter what passport they have. if brought them here, they if you brought them here, they snettt— if you brought them here, they snettt-ttte— if you brought them here, they should i able to _ if you brought them here, they should able to get those should be able to get those speettttst— should be able to get those specialist—well. i specialist services as well. so tntt-s— specialist services as well. so that's—matter. that's why it doesn't matter tt— that's why it doesn't matter even if shoaib,— that's why it doesn't matter even if shoaib, we not have even if shoaib, we do not have enettn— even if shoaib, we do not have enettn sptee— even if shoaib, we do not have enough space at— even if shoaib, we do not have enough space at the moment. i tt— enough space at the moment. i tt wntt— enough space at the moment. i mean, at what point— enough space at the moment. i mean, at what point do- enough space at the moment. i mean, at what point do we- mean, at what point do we say, look, haven't the space look, we haven't got the space here who are already here for people who are already here? well, well, well, if we sent— here? well, well, well, if we can send-millions. - can send our millions. ttetstnts— can send our millions. thousands, tens- can send our millions. thousands, tens of- can send our millions. thousands, tens of thousands of people to fight for wars overseas get from overseas and get people from those countries to join in, too, then we should the money. then we should have the money. how have money of how can we have money for all of tnese— how can we have money for all of tnese wtttnt— how can we have money for all of those waging wars— how can we have money for all of those waging wars all over the wette— those waging wars all over the world?-don't- those waging wars all over the world?-don't have- those waging wars all over the world? don't have money those waging wars all over the wcput’ don't have money those waging wars all over the wcput a don't have money those waging wars all over the wcput a roof don't have money those waging wars all over the wcput a roof overn't have money those waging wars all over the wcput a roof over people'smoney to put a roof over people's nette— to put a roof over people's- nette—ntwe head? i mean, we should have tnettnt—we- thought of that before we sttetet— thought of that before we started _othersl thought of that before we. started _others to started relying on others to tettttty— started relying on others to actually-their- started relying on others to actually their lives for actually risk their lives for tetty.— actually risk their lives for us. okay, chris,— actually risk their lives for us. okay, chris, i can see that yete— us. okay, chris, i can see that yete netttnt— us. okay, chris, i can see that you're nodding along with that
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men. — you're nodding along with that men. se— you're nodding along with that men. so yet— you're nodding along with that then. so you you— you're nodding along with that then. : then. so you you you would be perfect. would you be would you be perfectly if you needed be perfectly happy if you needed a needed a gp a desperately needed a gp appointment or something along those you've been those lines? and you've been waiting for a long time or you've been waiting for a routine care, would be routine nhs care, you would be happy to forego that, would you? for arrived for somebody who's just arrived here, if you if you believe in paying here, if you if you believe in paying country and paying your taxes country and your prioritised by the your need is prioritised by the experts, that's the case. experts, then that's the case. but problem got but the problem is we've got a sneettte— but the problem is we've got a shortage-hours— but the problem is we've got a shortage hours and we haven't shortage of hours and we haven't got—infrastructure- shortage of hours and we haven't got infrastructure as got enough gp infrastructure as a result of these tory cuts. tts— a result of these tory cuts. it's - because - got j a result of these tory cuts.- it's - because - got kind it's not because we've got kind of it's not because we've got kind et t— it's not because we've got kind et t twe— it's not because we've got kind et t twe tee— it's not because we've got kind of a two tier system where we seet— of a two tier system where we sen—ttem- of a two tier system where we. seet—tnem-en sort of prioritise them based on eteelptsspeet. — sort of prioritise them based on race-passport. it's- sort of prioritise them based on race passport. . 7 ”cl race or passport. it's if you're working here and you've got the right you meet right to work here and you meet the and that is the need criteria and that is determined by the local authorities, got authorities, that's what's got to be case. all right, to be the case. all right, tttssett— to be the case. all right, tttssett. te— to be the case. all right, russell, go on.- to be the case. all right, russell, go on. just- i all right, russell, go on. just clear semetntnt— russell, go on. just clear something up. . ti.ee something up. it's a complete misnomer to try and assert that governments build houses. they don't . council should be build don't. council should be build councils and obviously should build houses rather. and of course councils do that. of various political flavours . various political flavours. governments don't build houses, developers do, housing associations do and so on. they're the ones that have
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failed. and let me failed. and actually, let me just something, just correct you on something, chris. khan chris. you talk about sadiq khan being success in terms of the being a success in terms of the houses that built for houses that he's built for london. that is absolutely fundamentally own fundamentally untrue. his own target set in 2016 was target that he set in 2016 was 65,000 homes a year, half of which should be affordable. he has only 23% of what has delivered only 23% of what he promised the man is a failure, so please don't use him as an example of success because he's probably the biggest failure houses failure in delivering houses that country has ever seen that this country has ever seen . all look, guys, i have . all right, look, guys, i have tneeettnty— . all right, look, guys, i have thoroughly-this- . all right, look, guys, i havei thoroughly-this-i thoroughly enjoyed this chat, i mtst—we-eel thoroughly enjoyed this chat, ii must—we're all must say. and i think we're all tettnt— must say. and i think we're all leaving-wound- must say. and i think we're all leaving-wound up- must say. and i think we're all leaving wound up than when must say. and i think we're all leafirst wound up than when must say. and i think we're all leafirst started,tund up than when must say. and i think we're all leafirst started, which) than when must say. and i think we're all leafirst started, which is han when we first started, which is peetttty— we first started, which is peetttty-et- we first started, which is- probably-ofldecent probably the sign of a decent tettte— probably the sign of a decent debate-cheers— probably the sign of a decent debate. cheers all right. debate. so cheers all right. ttt— debate. so cheers all right. t-tt see— debate. so cheers all right. t-tt yet— debate. so cheers all right. i'll see you all— debate. so cheers all right. i'll see you all soon. take take etee-ttnt.— i'll see you all soon. take take care,-right.-the. care, lads. all right. all the test. — care, lads. all right. all the test. tntt— care, lads. all right. all the best. that-chris- care, lads. all right. all the best. that chris wall. there best. that is chris wall. there he best. that is chris wall. there ne ts. — best. that is chris wall. there ne ts. tne— best. that is chris wall. there he is. the affordable housing petetst— he is. the affordable housing podcast co—host. _ he is. the affordable housing podcast co—host. and we've got property— podcast co—host. and we've got property ewe“— podcast co—host. and we've got property expert russell quirk tnt— property expert russell quirk tnt ntmtn— property expert russell quirk and human rights lawyer shoaib tntm.— and human rights lawyer shoaib tntn. ttte— and human rights lawyer shoaib tntn. ttete— and human rights lawyer shoaib khan. fairto say— and human rights lawyer shoaib khan. fairto say a— and human rights lawyer shoaib khan. fairto say a mixed bag khan. fair to say a mixed bag tneee— khan. fair to say a mixed bag tneee. ttt— khan. fair to say a mixed bag there. i'll just— khan. fair to say a mixed bag there. i'll just go— khan. fair to say a mixed bag there. i'll just go to the inbox weey— there. i'll just go to the inbox weey. weey— there. i'll just go to the inbox weey. weey. weey— there. i'll just go to the inbox very, very, very quickly. vaiews@gbnews.com. i had a eetpte— vaiews@gbnews.com. i had a eetpte et— vaiews@gbnews.com. i had a couple of cracking emails in. in ttet.— couple of cracking emails in. in ttet. twe— couple of cracking emails in. in ttet. t-we ntt— couple of cracking emails in. in fact, i've had actually hundreds of fact, i've had actually hundreds et—tntsl of cracking emails so far. this snew— of cracking emails so far. this snewtsste— - of cracking emails so far. this snewtsste— .t show on this very issue. but i ttst— show on this very issue. but i rtst wtntet— show on this very issue. but i just wanted _to - show on this very issue. but i just wanted _to a - show on this very issue. but i just wanted to a couple just wanted to go to a couple tntt— just wanted to go to a couple tntt steet— just wanted to go to a couple that stood out— just wanted to go to a couple that stood out me. one
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that stood out to me. this one is that stood out to me. this one ts-teeet— that stood out to me. this one is-derek patrick,- that stood out to me. this one is derek patrick, what is from derek patrick, what ttett— is from derek patrick, what ttett wntt— is from derek patrick, what about what about the human tents— about what about the human ettnts et— about what about the human rights of people— about what about the human rights of people who are already in rights of people who are already tn—otty.- rights of people who are already tn—otty. tnel rights of people who are already tn—otty. ttne .| in here? yep. fine. okay, fine. tttetete— in here? yep. fine. okay, fine. patrick? yes?— in here? yep. fine. okay, fine. patrick? yes? britain should test— patrick? yes? britain should come first in— patrick? yes? britain should come first in everything. the reason-illegals- come first in everything. the reason illegals come reason so many illegals come neee— reason so many illegals come neee ts— reason so many illegals come here is because— reason so many illegals come here is because they know they wtt— here is because they know they mtt—.— here is because they know they wttt—. tntt-s- will get everything. that's why tney— will get everything. that's why tney-tn— will get everything. that's why tney-tn etnee- they don't stay in other countries. _ countries. that is from russ. tneees— countries. that is from russ. meees-tnts- countries. that is from russ. there's this going there's a lot of this going ttett— there's a lot of this going ttett tt— there's a lot of this going about at the— there's a lot of this going about at the moment, but thank you about at the moment, but thank yet-weey— about at the moment, but thank| yet-weey—tneee-s you very, very much. and there's ttse—tttettyl also one here. quickly, quickly _tteen- also one here. quickly, quickly _tteen wne- also one here. quickly, quickly ,_karen who says| also one here. quickly, quicklyi ,_karen who says , , 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tmpttttet— . my ex—husband sadly had his leg amputated last year. still etn-t— leg amputated last year. stilli can't—bungalow can't get a one floor bungalow or can't get a one floor bungalow ee tptetment— can't get a one floor bungalow or apartment despite falling tewn— or apartment despite falling tewn-.— or apartment despite falling tewn-. te- or apartment despite falling down . he always down the stairs. he always weetet— down the stairs. he always weetet tnt— down the stairs. he always worked and paid his taxes. down the stairs. he always worked and paid his taxes . yet worked and paid his taxes. yet semetety— worked and paid his taxes. yet somebody coming here now somebody coming over here now wtt— somebody coming over here now wttt—ts— somebody coming over here now will—is disgusting.l will get it. that is disgusting. tntt-s— that's from karen gbviews@gbnews.com right ttenette— gbviews@gbnews.com right michelle dewberry follows me at etee— michelle dewberry follows me at too tnt— michelle dewberry follows me at 6:00 and she's— michelle dewberry follows me at 6:00 and she's promised she's got— 6:00 and she's promised she's tet t— 6:00 and she's promised she's tet t stepetse— 6:00 and she's promised she's got a surprise for— 6:00 and she's promised she's got a surprise for me. she's the test— got a surprise for me. she's the ttest tm— got a surprise for me. she's the first i'm hearing— got a surprise for me. she's the first i'm hearing of— got a surprise for me. she's the first i'm hearing of this. all ttnt. — first i'm hearing of this. all ttnt. wett— first i'm hearing of this. all right. well, you're going to ntte— right. well, you're going to ntwe te— right. well, you're going to ntwe te stty— right. well, you're going to have to stay tuned to find out why— have to stay tuned to find out wty—stepetse- have to stay tuned to find out wty—stepetse tsi why on earth this surprise is. i ten-t— why on earth this surprise is. i tent-tts— why on earth this surprise is. i tent-tts tetnt- why on earth this surprise is. i don't-it's going to- don't reckon it's going to be tntt— don't reckon it's going to be that-patrick- don't reckon it's going to be
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tv, radio and online gb news. nettttn-s— tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news— tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news .— tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news. channel all ttnt.— britain's news. channel all right, winners— britain's news. channel all right, winners there is just nine days to go until i dance on stage with the dream boys who are a group of male strippers. now i'm going to do three routines on the night. one of them be a solo. i met the them will be a solo. i met the lads a few weeks ago to learn the moves. hoping that the moves. now i'm hoping that tomorrow i'll be able to give you an updated of my you an updated video of my learning solo dance . i learning ofsted solo dance. i will be stressing my stuff in bromley in kent on wednesday, june 28th. i'm doing it to
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june the 28th. i'm doing it to raise money for the mental health charity i'm health charity mind and i'm delighted say that you have delighted to say that you have raised more than £64,000. thank you to everyone who's given money so far. you can donate by going to justgiving.com . com going to justgiving.com. com forward slash fund raising forward slash fund raising forward slash fund raising forward slash challenge christie's. that's just giving.com/fund raising forward slash challenge christie's . i slash challenge christie's. i haven't really got a target in mind because you've smashed them all of the park far. all out of the park so far. it was grand. then i said, if was 50 grand. then i said, if you 60 grand, i'll my you get to 60 grand, i'll wax my chest. you did that in about chest. so you did that in about 15 minutes. just update on on 15 minutes. just an update on on on personal progress on my personal progress and all of this. the chest wax been of this. the chest wax has been booked for friday, so i have booked in for friday, so i have to do that thank you very to do that now. thank you very much, for making much, everybody, for making me do for a good do that. it's all for a good cause. it's all for charity and also in terms of the way that i'm going about learning this routine, because i wouldn't want to go into this half cocked for want a phrase. i i'm want of a better phrase. i i'm learning the routine finally . learning the routine finally. well, i've learnt already, well, i've learnt it already, but doing refresh. but i'm doing my full refresh. on morning and i have
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on tuesday morning and i have lost three and a half stone in order to try to not utterly humiliate myself and walk out on stage at the dreamboys looking like a cow that's ready to be milked. but there we go. you can donate at justgiving.com forward slash fundraising , forward slash slash fundraising, forward slash challenge christie's i want to bnng challenge christie's i want to bring you, though, a couple of little stories involving the controversial schools controversial topic of schools and children to change and children who want to change their identity. rishi sunak is bringing in a new policy that means will be forced to means schools will be forced to tell parents if students are questioning gender that is questioning their gender that is good ifs questioning their gender that is good it's emerged as good news. and it's emerged as a teacher branded 13 year old teacher branded a 13 year old girl despicable because she refused that refused to accept that a classmate identified as a cat. here's fallout from the here's the fallout from the incident. i'll here's the fallout from the incident . i'll tell you, it's incident. i'll tell you, it's ttst— incident. i'll tell you, it's rtst eettty— incident. i'll tell you, it's just really upset- eti. t:e. i'll tell you, it's just really upset someone . just really upset someone. stytnt— just really upset someone. saying tbinds— just really upset someone. saying things like should be in an saying things like should be in tn tsyttm— saying things like should be in tn tsyttm. t— saying things like should be in an asylum. i that— saying things like should be in an asylum. i that if they want to an asylum. i that if they want te ttentty— an asylum. i that if they want to identify how— an asylum. i that if they want to identify how something then tney-ee— to identify how something then tney-ee ttte— to identify how something then they're like genuinely unwell . they're like genuinely unwell. wetn— they're like genuinely unwell. vetn. tntt-s— they're like genuinely unwell. yeah. that's crazy . you to learn
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yeah. that's crazy. you to learn tntt— yeah. that's crazy. you to learn tntt tneee— yeah. that's crazy. you to learn tntt tneee .— yeah. that's crazy. you to learn tntt tneee . t— yeah. that's crazy. you to learn that there . i didn't— yeah. that's crazy. you to learn that there . i didn't i wasn't that there. i didn't i wasn't a ttesten— that there. i didn't i wasn't a ttesten t— that there. i didn't i wasn't a question i was— that there. i didn't i wasn't a question i was just saying about the question i was just saying about tne tettee— question i was just saying about tne tentee et— question i was just saying about the gender of gender. on there the gender of gender. oh there are the gender of gender. on there tets— the gender of gender. on there tets et— the gender of gender. on there are lots of genders . there is are lots of genders. there is tetnstentee— are lots of genders. there is tetnstentee .— are lots of genders. there is transgender , there is age and transgender, there is age and the transgender, there is age and tne peepte— transgender, there is age and the people that— transgender, there is age and the people that don't believe tney— the people that don't believe tney ntte— the people that don't believe tney ntwe t— the people that don't believe they have a gender at all, which i they have a gender at all, which t tnew— they have a gender at all, which t tnew yet— they have a gender at all, which i knew you were— they have a gender at all, which i knew you were going initial ttett.— i knew you were going initial ttett. wetn— i knew you were going initial avoid. yeah but— i knew you were going initial avoid. yeah but this gender is net— avoid. yeah but this gender is not necessarily— avoid. yeah but this gender is not necessarily the way to be. if not necessarily the way to be. tt yet — not necessarily the way to be. if you are talking— not necessarily the way to be. if you are talking about the ttet— if you are talking about the ttet tntt— if you are talking about the fact that cisgender is the norm tntt— fact that cisgender is the norm tntt yet— fact that cisgender is the norm that you identify— fact that cisgender is the norm that you identify with the gentee— that you identify with the gender, that— that you identify with the gender, that with the sexual eettns— gender, that with the sexual eettns tntt— gender, that with the sexual organs that you're born with or yete— organs that you're born with or yete wttn— organs that you're born with or your with, that's— organs that you're born with or your with, that's basically what yete— your with, that's basically what yete stytnt— your with, that's basically what you're saying. yeah. which is eettty— you're saying. yeah. which is really despicable. when it's really despicable. how when it's one on one himars seb gorka . mo one on one himars seb gorka. mo ttewttm.— one on one himars seb gorka. mo ttewttm. ste-s— one on one himars seb gorka. mo mowlam. she's sad.— one on one himars seb gorka. mo mowlam. she's sad. that's very stt— mowlam. she's sad. that's very stt ts— mowlam. she's sad. that's very stt ts wett— mowlam. she's sad. that's very stt ts wett .— mowlam. she's sad. that's very sad as well . how— mowlam. she's sad. that's very sad as well. how is it mowlam. she's sad. that's very sad as well . how is it most sad as well. how is it most peepte— sad as well. how is it most peepte tteee— sad as well. how is it most people agree with that? there's enty— people agree with that? there's enty t— people agree with that? there's enty t smttt— people agree with that? there's only a small majority of people wne—wnyl who actually think about why ten-t— don't you think we have so many peettems—wttn- problems in the world with homophobia?— problems in the world with homophobia? you know, an opinion wttn— homophobia? you know, an opinion wttn teysten— homophobia? you know, an opinion wttn teysten .— homophobia? you know, an opinion wttn teysten . we.— homophobia? you know, an opinion with fryston . no, it's not. if with fryston. no, it's not. if you— with fryston. no, it's not. if yet ten-t— with fryston. no, it's not. if you don't like— with fryston. no, it's not. if you don't like it,- with fryston. no, it's not. if you don't like it, you need to go you don't like it, you need to te te— you don't like it, you need to te te t— you don't like it, you need to go to a different— you don't like it, you need to go to a different school. so i'm eepeettnt— go to a different school. so i'm eepeettnt yet— go to a different school. so i'm eepeettnt yet te— go to a different school. so i'm reporting you to need to have a peepee— reporting you to need to have a proper education.— reporting you to need to have a proper education. all conversation about about
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etttttty— conversation about about etttttty tnt— conversation about about equality and diversity and tnettsten— equality and diversity and tnettsten .— equality and diversity and inclusion , because i'm not inclusion, because i'm not ntwnt— inclusion, because i'm not ntwnt tntt— inclusion, because i'm not having that expressed in my tessen — having that expressed in my tessen tty— having that expressed in my tessen. tty so— having that expressed in my lesson. my so that teachers tmet— lesson. my so that teachers tntet ts— lesson. my so that teachers thick as means— lesson. my so that teachers thick as means obviously and the ettt— thick as means obviously and the enttt ts— thick as means obviously and the child was able— thick as means obviously and the child was able to— thick as means obviously and the child was able to outwit them tmmettttety— child was able to outwit them immediately. _ child was able to outwit them immediately . �*ftt�*eg e i e immediately. why on earth can a child be threatened with having to leave the school if they don't accept that they're that they're they're their colleague is a cat ? i they're they're their colleague is a cat? i mean, who on earth would identify as a cat, especially at work? so everything all right then? michelle dewberry yeah . i've got michelle dewberry yeah. i've got my saucer of milk, and- it: i t / i've got my saucer of milk, and this is my— my saucer of milk, and this is my stepetse— my saucer of milk, and this is my stepetse te— my saucer of milk, and this is my surprise to you. i am no tettee— my surprise to you. i am no longer michelle. _ my surprise to you. i am no longer michelle. i self—identify as miaow shell.— longer michelle. i self—identify as miaow shell. that's how i wtnt— as miaow shell. that's how i wtnt te— as miaow shell. that's how i wtnt te te— as miaow shell. that's how i want to be respected and eettetet— want to be respected and regarded for— want to be respected and regarded for the rest of, well, eteentty. — regarded for the rest of, well, eternity. quite _ regarded for the rest of, well, eternity. quite frankly . �*ftt�*ee. 7 eternity. quite frankly. what if i refuse? well,— eternity. quite frankly. what if i refuse? well, and— eternity. quite frankly. 7 7 well, and i'm going to i refuse? well, and i'm going to ettt— i refuse? well, and i'm going to ettt tne— i refuse? well, and i'm going to ettt tne ntte— i refuse? well, and i'm going to call the hate speech— 7 well, and i'm going to call the hate speech police. wetn— call the hate speech police. vetn. tm— call the hate speech police. wetn. t-m tetnt— call the hate speech police. yeah, i'm going to. have you ttten— yeah, i'm going to. have you ttten twty— yeah, i'm going to. have you taken away, arrested and i'm going— taken away, arrested and i'm tetnt te— taken away, arrested and i'm tetnt te tey— taken away, arrested and i'm going to try and_ taken away, arrested and i'm going to try and cancel your career. i can't.— going to try and cancel your career. i can't. i'm going to do eweeytety— career. i can't. i'm going to do eweeytety tett — career. i can't. i'm going to do everybody dodi with respect, i
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etn-t— everybody dodi with respect, i etn-t teet— everybody dodi with respect, i can't look away— everybody dodi with respect, i can't look away anyway. 3ge. can't look away anyway. right. otty— can't look away anyway. right. otty att— can't look away anyway. right. okay all right, michelle. miaow, miaow, miaow. shall. wett— miaow, miaow, miaow. shall. we-tt te— miaow, miaow, miaow. shall. we'll be with- miaow, miaow, miaow. shall. we'll be with you. it: g: we'll be with you. misgender me . teen-t— we'll be with you. misgender me . don't misgender_ we'll be with you. misgender me . don't misgender you- we'll be with you. it: g: don't misgender you right. . don't misgender you right. tetty— . don't misgender you right. etty t— . don't misgender you right. otty t nepe— . don't misgender you right. okay i we you— don't misgender you right. okay i hope you feel i'm great. i'll okay i hope you feel i'm great. t-tt see— okay i hope you feel i'm great. t-tt yet— okay i hope you feel i'm great. i'll see you next— okay i hope you feel i'm great. i'll see you next week or tomorrow. in— i'll see you next week or tomorrow. in fact, i wish it was next— tomorrow. in fact, i wish it was next-tneee— tomorrow. in fact, i wish it was next-tnee. - tomorrow. in fact, i wish it was next-there . it's- tomorrow. in fact, i wish it was. next-there . it's aidan next week. hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . showers places for . heavy showers in places for the the day, the rest of the day, particularly areas particularly in northern areas and some thunderstorms, especially for northern ireland. but otherwise there are plenty of there, of sunny spells out there, especially the south. especially towards the south. we've low pressure centred we've got low pressure centred to the northwest of the uk and an area of thundery rain moved north through sunday and monday morning. that's now clearing the north and northwest of scotland, mainly outbreaks of light to moderate rain . at this stage it moderate rain. at this stage it does through overnight, does clear through overnight, but any thunderstorms that we're seeing across ireland seeing across northern ireland also clear, then drier and clearer for the north, but further south, that's where some further south, that's where some further thundery action takes place by the end of the night with some rain moving up with some heavy rain moving up from continent , a muggy from the continent, a muggy night, the south, night, especially in the south, 16 first thing on
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16 celsius. first thing on tuesday. further north, the tuesday. but further north, the fresher with some sunny fresher feel with some sunny spells for parts of eastern scotland. northern england and northern ireland. but the rain and the thunderstorms in the south will move north into the midlands by late morning and then northern england by the afternoon, pushing into southeast scotland. by the end of the day , showers will break of the day, showers will break out elsewhere , perhaps some out elsewhere, perhaps some thunderstorms again for western scotland, northern ireland, southwestern parts , but more southwestern parts, but more especially temperatures especially where temperatures rise up to the mid to high 20s. the chance of serious the chance of some serious thunderstorms taking place across east and across parts of east and southeast england. a few of these rumbling on into the evening, eventually they'll evening, but eventually they'll die the rain across die away. and the rain across eastern scotland well eastern scotland clears as well into the start of wednesday . but into the start of wednesday. but further showers turn up in the west at this stage as well. another warm night to come, 15, 16 in the south, 13, 14 further north, perhaps a fresher feel for parts of scotland with some clear spells. first thing wednesday. but we've got showers from the word go across western
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scotland, northern ireland, a few for wales and western england. they'll develop widely across wednesday and across the uk on wednesday and then showers to come then a few more showers to come on as well. but the on thursday as well. but the overall for it to turn overall theme is for it to turn dner overall theme is for it to turn drier in south by the end of drier in the south by the end of the and much warmer.
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