point on gb news this is to the point on gb news with me, andrew pierce and bev turner. very good morning to you.— turner. very good morning to you. so— turner. very good morning to you. so this— c. very good morning to you. so this morning, a mission to-a— you. so this morning, a mission to-a manic— you. so this morning, a mission to-a titanic tourist- you. so this morning, a mission to a titanic tourist sub to save a titanic tourist sub connnnec. — to save a titanic tourist sub continues. -the- to save a titanic tourist sub- continues. -the passengers continues. one of the passengers on-inccnoec— continues. one of the passengers on-inccnoec o— continues. one of the passengers on includes a british on board includes a british billionaire,— on board includes a british billionaire, harding and billionaire, hamish harding and snonzooo— billionaire, hamish harding and shahzada dawood , a uk based shahzada dawood, a uk based nono— shahzada dawood, a uk based board member— shahzada dawood, a uk based board member of— shahzada dawood, a uk based board member of the prince's nece— board member of the prince's neon cnoncy. — board member of the prince's trust charity. he— board member of the prince's trust charity. he also has his 19 trust charity. he also has his no yen— trust charity. he also has his no yen om— trust charity. he also has his 19 year old son,— trust charity. he also has his 19 year old son, suleiman, on bone.— 19 year old son, suleiman, on bone. n-c— 19 year old son, suleiman, on board. it's thought that the sub has board. it's thought that the sub nee enongn— board. it's thought that the sub has enough oxygen to last until about— has enough oxygen to last until about thursday— has enough oxygen to last until about thursday lunchtime . about thursday lunchtime. um, so it's about thursday lunchtime. um, so no on— about thursday lunchtime. um, so it's an extraordinary— about thursday lunchtime. um, so it's an extraordinary attempt at rescuing. now bad news for boris, the former prime minister has lost that parliamentary pass to of westminster to the palace of westminster after mps voted overwhelmingly that deliver liberally that he did deliver liberally mislead parliament over lockdown parties. last night he said, you know what a cricket fan he is, there's always another innings. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he; another innings. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he mean|er innings. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he mean byinnings. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he mean by thatigs. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he mean by that .7;. know what a cricket fan he is, there's alv1he mean by that .7 and what does he mean by that? and this morning, valdo kalo kane, the man arrested on suspicion of murdering three people in nottingham last week, will make his first crown court appearance. it's been one week since— appearance. it's been one week inoce— appearance. it's been one week since those awful— f it's been one week since those awful attacks will inne— since those awful attacks will icing yon— since those awful attacks will icing you ine— since those awful attacks will bring you the latest from court as bring you the latest from court no i— bring you the latest from court

as in noppenc— bring you the latest from court as in noppene .— bring you the latest from court as it happens . let— bring you the latest from court as it happens . let us know your as it happens. let us know your inongnic— as it happens. let us know your inongnic on— as it happens. let us know your thoughts on everything that we're discussing. this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email oneness— vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address oc— vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address as always. _ vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address as always. but first of an,— address as always. but first of an, nee-c— address as always. but first of all, here's your— address as always. but first of all, here's your news with ioiiono— all, here's your news with tatiana sanchez . all, here's your news with tatiana sanchez. all, here's your news with - tatiana sanchez . beth, thank you tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. five people on board a missing, submerged tourist vessel to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic ocean have approximately two days of oxygen left . rescue teams continue to left. rescue teams continue to search for a british billionaire who is believed to be on board, as well as a father and son. shahzada dawood and sulaiman dawood. it's now been confirmed. captain hamish harding, a pilot who owns an aviation company, wrote on social media, saying he would be taking part in the dive. yesterday, the coastguard lost contact with the vessel around one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to the

titanic site, oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the situation is critical. they're in a very difficult situation here. they're sitting in four kilometres,- they're sitting in four kilometres, 13,000ft of water. inn-c— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. inoi-c ine — kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit of the sub's coponiiiiy— that's the limit of the sub's capability anyway . they're in capability anyway. they're in a very— capability anyway. they're in a very deep— capability anyway. they're in a very deep pon— capability anyway. they're in a very deep pen oi— capability anyway. they're in a very deep part of the ocean . very deep part of the ocean. iney-ie— very deep part of the ocean. iney-ie o— very deep part of the ocean. iney-ie o long— very deep part of the ocean. they're a long way from the conci— they're a long way from the cooci oc— they're a long way from the coast as well. _ they're a long way from the coast as well. so- they're a long way from the coast as well. so getting any con— coast as well. so getting any con oi— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue attempt to them is going— sort of rescue attempt to them is going io— sort of rescue attempt to them is going io inke— sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time. and there are is going to take time. and there ven— is going to take time. and there very new— is going to take time. and there are very few vessels that are coooiie— are very few vessels that are cogoiie oi— are very few vessels that are capable of going— are very few vessels that are capable of going to those sorts of capable of going to those sorts oi degene— capable of going to those sorts oi ciepinc . — capable of going to those sorts of depths. mps— capable of going to those sorts of depths . m37“; capable of going to those sorts of depths. m37“; : capable of going to those sorts of depths. : of depths. mps have voted to approve the report , which found approve the report, which found bofis approve the report, which found boris johnson deliberately misled parliament over lockdown parties by 354 votes to seven, with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned against boris johnson include banning him from having a pass to access parliament. the liberal democrats have accused the prime minister , rishi sunak, of being minister, rishi sunak, of being too weak to even turn up to the vote . over 6 million people with

vote. over 6 million people with disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost of living payment from today. the government says the payment is part of a £100 billion support package for vulnerable households. those those who are eligible will receive the payment automatically . now new research automatically. now new research suggests taking regular daytime naps could be good for brain health. it could slow the rate at which the brain shrinks as we age, according to research carried out at ucl. the study suggests the average difference in brain volume between people programmed to be habitual nappers and those who aren't was equivalent to two and a half to six and a half years of ageing . six and a half years of ageing. and finally, ascot racegoers are hoping the king and queen will join them for the opening day today, which hosts some of the world's best and jockeys world's best horses and jockeys . charles camilla, both fans . charles and camilla, both fans of racing, are expected to make an appearance five an appearance during the five day meet berkshire . the late day meet in berkshire. the late queen was a passionate owner and breeder thoroughbreds. she breeder of thoroughbreds. she had than ascot

had more than 20 royal ascot winners during her 70 year reign . you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com now it's back to andrew and . to andrew and. bev good morning. to andrew and. bev- . good morning. well, good morning— . good morning. well, good morning io— . good morning. well, good morning to-indeed.| . good morning. well, good. morning to-indeed. the morning to you. yes, indeed. the ceocn— morning to you. yes, indeed. the ceocn ic— morning to you. yes, indeed. the search is continuing— morning to you. yes, indeed. the search is continuing for that submersible— search is continuing for that submersible vessel submersible tourist vessel en ionic— submersible tourist vessel en nonie io— submersible tourist vessel en nonie io ine— submersible tourist vessel en route to the titanic shipwreck in ine— route to the titanic shipwreck in the middle— route to the titanic shipwreck in the middle of— route to the titanic shipwreck in the middle of the atlantic ocean — in the middle of the atlantic ocean. ibritish_ in the middle of the atlantic ocean. e cc ocean. british billionaire hamish harding, chairman of private firm action private plane firm action aviation, is understood to be on board the five person oceangate expeditions vessel, which was reported overdue on sunday evening. about 435 miles south of newfoundland. and now, during a press conference, rear admiral john w morgia of the us coastguard said they're doing everything they can to find the submersible, but it's two and a half miles beneath the ocean and

a traditional nuclear submarine can only go 300m deep. we're working very closely- can only go 300m deep. we're working very closely at- it?" 913300 : we're working very closely at this point— working very closely at this noini .— working very closely at this point , noni— working very closely at this point, want to— working very closely at this point, want to make sure that icing— point, want to make sure that we're doing everything that we io— we're doing everything that we io io— we're doing everything that we can do to locate— we're doing everything that we can do to locate the submersible oni— can do to locate the submersible and rescue those— can do to locate the submersible and rescue those on— can do to locate the submersible and rescue those on board the iocoiion— and rescue those on board the iocoiion of— and rescue those on board the location of the— and rescue those on board the location of the search is approximately 900 miles east of coge— approximately 900 miles east of cone coi— approximately 900 miles east of cone cog in— approximately 900 miles east of cope cog in o— approximately 900 miles east of cape cod in a water depth of iongniy— cape cod in a water depth of roughly 13,000ft. e roughly 13,000ft. it is a remote area and it is a challenge to conduct a search in that remote area . also on board is shahzada area. also on board is shahzada dawood, whose one of the richest men in pakistan and the vice chairman of one of the largest companies in the country. and he's got strong links- companies in the country. and he's got strong links with- he's got strong links with onion— he's got strong links with britain because he gives money to britain because he gives money co ine— britain because he gives money to cne kings.— britain because he gives money to the kings. princes trust. in a to the kings. princes trust. in o—foniiy- to the kings. princes trust. in. a_family thanked a statement, his family thanked coiieognec— a statement, his family thanked colleagues friends while colleagues and friends while praying— colleagues and friends while preying—reinin- colleagues and friends while praying—return . praying for his safe return. vicin— praying for his safe return. vicii, toining— praying for his safe return. well, joining us— praying for his safe return. well, joining us now- praying for his safe return. well, joining us now is- praying for his safe return. well, joining us now is julie cook , author of the titanic and cook, author of the titanic and city of widows that it left behind. good morning,

city of widows that it left behind. good morning , julie. behind. good morning, julie. we've spoken to you before on this show as a journalist on various topics, but i didn't know actually that you you are interested in the titanic , so interested in the titanic, so much so that you've written a book on it. you were about to go on one these voyages , weren't on one of these voyages, weren't you, this few years you, to see this a few years ago. tell us about that. yes morning. my great grandfather diei— morning. my great grandfather diet on— morning. my great grandfather diet on ine— morning. my great grandfather died on the titanic,— q my great grandfather died on the titanic, so i wrote a died on the titanic, so i wrote e book— died on the titanic, so i wrote e book about— died on the titanic, so i wrote a book about that.— died on the titanic, so i wrote a book about that. and the widowe— a book about that. and the widows oni— a book about that. and the widows and children left behind . anci— widows and children left behind . and afterwards— widows and children left behind . and afterwards i— widows and children left behind . and afterwards i was contacted by on— . and afterwards i was contacted by on american— . and afterwards i was contacted by an american company who wanted— by an american company who wanted to— by an american company who wanted to follow— by an american company who wanted to follow the dive . one wanted to follow the dive. one of wanted to follow the dive. one oi ine — wanted to follow the dive. one of the maiden— wanted to follow the dive. one of the maiden dives of ocean coie— of the maiden dives of ocean one down— of the maiden dives of ocean one down io— of the maiden dives of ocean gate down to the— of the maiden dives of ocean gate down to the wreck and asked me ii— gate down to the wreck and asked me ii to— gate down to the wreck and asked me ii in coke— gate down to the wreck and asked me if i'd take part— gate down to the wreck and asked me if i'd take part and go down as a descendant— me if i'd take part and go down as a descendant of— me if i'd take part and go down as a descendant of someone who diei— as a descendant of someone who tied ineie. — as a descendant of someone who tied ineie. ny— as a descendant of someone who died there. my great grandfather's body would still be down— grandfather's body would still be down there. _ grandfather's body would still be down there. he was a stoker nio— be down there. he was a stoker who never made— be down there. he was a stoker who never made it— be down there. he was a stoker who never made it back , so who never made it back, so i occeoiei— who never made it back, so i occenieci oc— who never made it back, so i accepted as o— who never made it back, so i accepted as a journalist and as accepted as a journalist and as o neioiive— accepted as a journalist and as o neioiive io— accepted as a journalist and as a relative to see— accepted as a journalist and as a relative to see what was going on down— a relative to see what was going on down incre— a relative to see what was going on down there and— a relative to see what was going on down there and to bring niciniec— on down there and to bring pictures back— on down there and to bring pictures back . - on down there and to bring pictures back . 'i: i: i: on down there and to bring pictures back . ' 2 2 2 pictures back. and did you actually get to take the trip? juue actually get to take the trip? julie no, no . what happened was

julie no, no. what happened was it julie no, no. what happened was i woe— julie no, no. what happened was it was cancelled. _ julie no, no. what happened was it was cancelled. it— it; no, no. what happened was it was cancelled. it was a year one— it was cancelled. it was a year oiiei ine— it was cancelled. it was a year after the pandemic and after coviio— after the pandemic and after covin oni— after the pandemic and after cone and o— after the pandemic and after covm and a lot— after the pandemic and after covid and a lot of red tape going— covid and a lot of red tape going on— covid and a lot of red tape going on. still— covid and a lot of red tape going on. still a— covid and a lot of red tape going on. still a lot of travel oni— going on. still a lot of travel enci vice— going on. still a lot of travel and visa problems. so it all wenc— and visa problems. so it all neni ven— and visa problems. so it all went very in.— and visa problems. so it all went very far. you know, we egieeci— went very far. you know, we egieeci io— went very far. you know, we egieeci io io— went very far. you know, we agreed to do the- went very far. you know, we agreed to do the documentary. we oiennei— agreed to do the documentary. we piennei nnei— agreed to do the documentary. we planned what was— agreed to do the documentary. we planned what was going to neppen — planned what was going to neppen. i— planned what was going to happen. i-told- planned what was going to happen. i told how long the happen. i was told how long the give—nonin- happen. i was told how long the give—none ie| happen. i was told how long the. dive—would be on dive would take, who would be on bone,— dive would take, who would be on tong-enci— dive would take, who would be on board,-and.board,- board, involved and on board, enci— board, involved and on board, end-ii— board, involved and on board, and-it-actually. board, involved and on board,i and-it-actually take and then it didn't actually take niece.— and then it didn't actually take niece. ii— and then it didn't actually take piece. ii in— and then it didn't actually take place. if i'm honest with you, bevi— place. if i'm honest with you, nev, i— place. if i'm honest with you, nev, i nec— place. if i'm honest with you, bev, i was secretly a bit neiieveci— bev, i was secretly a bit relieved -was| bev, i was secretly a bit- relieved -was very relieved because i was very neonnc— relieved because i was very nenonc-going- relieved because i was very nervous going on this relieved because i was very nervoi s going on this relieved because i was very nervoi was going on this relieved because i was very nervoi was i'mgoing on this relieved because i was very nervoi was i'm aing on this relieved because i was very nervoi was i'm a bit on this dive. i was i'm a bit claustrophobic and it would dive. i was i'm a bit— claustrophobic and it would have ieken— claustrophobic and it would have ieken-io— claustrophobic and it would have ieken-io gei— claustrophobic and it would have taken-to get there- claustrophobic and it would have taken to get there and taken hours to get there and neck— taken hours to get there and neck .— taken hours to get there and neck . nei— taken hours to get there and neck . nucle— taken hours to get there and back. but a journalist, we back. but as a journalist, we no.— back. but as a journalist, we io-iningc— back. but as a journalist, we do.-things, don't- back. but as a journalist, we do. things, don't we, to do. we do things, don't we, to icing— do. we do things, don't we, to icing iningc— do. we do things, don't we, to bring things back— do. we do things, don't we, to bring things back to people. so yeen— bring things back to people. so yeen-iii— bring things back to people. so yeen-iii oi— bring things back to people. so yeah,-bit of mixed- yeah, a little bit of mixed ieeiingc— yeah, a little bit of mixed feelingsiwhen- yeah, a little bit of mixed feelings when it was cancelled, feelings. when it was cancelled, judy,— feelings. when it was cancelled, into-engen— feelings. when it was cancelled, judy,-explain the- judy, can you explain the entering— judy, can you explain the enduring fascination about the iiienic— enduring fascination about the iiienic .— enduring fascination about the titanic , which— enduring fascination about the titanic , which sank in april titanic, which sank in april zeine — titanic, which sank in april 20th? what— titanic, which sank in april 20th? what was- titanic, which sank in april 20th? what was it- titanic, which sank in april 20th? e i�* titanic, which sank in april 20th? int“? e i�* 1300 20th? what was it 1912, 1500 lives lost? why are we so fascinated and why have these people spent £200,000 for an eight hour submerge trip ? i eight hour submerge trip? i think it's one of the greatest

cioiiec— think it's one of the greatest stories ever— think it's one of the greatest stories ever told,— think it's one of the greatest stories ever told, isn't it? i inni— stories ever told, isn't it? i think there's— stories ever told, isn't it? i think there's so— stories ever told, isn't it? i think there's so much to it. ii-c— think there's so much to it. ii-c ine— think there's so much to it. it's the opulence. it's the giencienn — it's the opulence. it's the grandeur. it's— it's the opulence. it's the grandeur. it's how beautiful the cnin— grandeur. it's how beautiful the cnin — grandeur. it's how beautiful the cnig ii-c— grandeur. it's how beautiful the ship was. it's the— grandeur. it's how beautiful the ship was. it's the fact that it kine— ship was. it's the fact that it cine oi— ship was. it's the fact that it was kind of man— ship was. it's the fact that it was kind of man against nature, for was kind of man against nature, ion ine— was kind of man against nature, ion ine ieci— was kind of man against nature, for the fact that— was kind of man against nature, for the fact that ,_ was kind of man against nature, for the fact that , you know, for the fact that, you know, inic— for the fact that, you know, inic nec— for the fact that, you know, inic en— for the fact that, you know, this was an unsinkable ship. so they— this was an unsinkable ship. so iney ceii— this was an unsinkable ship. so iney ceici enci— this was an unsinkable ship. so they said and i— this was an unsinkable ship. so they said and i think also it e kine— they said and i think also it was a kind of— they said and i think also it was a kind of microcosm of cocieiy.— was a kind of microcosm of cocieiy. vou— was a kind of microcosm of society. you know, you had all ine— society. you know, you had all ine iienc— society. you know, you had all ine iieic on— society. you know, you had all the tiers on the— society. you know, you had all the tiers on the ship. you had ine— the tiers on the ship. you had inc-ciecc— the tiers on the ship. you had the-class going- the tiers on the ship. you had the class going down the first class going right down to the first class going right down io—nno— the first class going right down to_who worked- the first class going right down to _who worked on. the first class going right down to who worked on it, to the people who worked on it, iike— to the people who worked on it, iiie ny— to the people who worked on it, like my grandfather, and like my great grandfather, and inni— like my great grandfather, and ininklnec— like my great grandfather, and thinklwas e— like my great grandfather, and thinklwas a real— like my great grandfather, and think was a real study think it was a real study in nnneniiy— think it was a real study in humanity .that- think it was a real study in humanity that and humanity at that time. and noining— humanity at that time. and noining wec— humanity at that time. and nothing was same afterwards nothing was the same afterwards . newing— nothing was the same afterwards . newing ieeii— nothing was the same afterwards . having heard and— nothing was the same afterwards . having heard and read- nothing was the same afterwards . having heard and read about what's happening judy , does what's happening now, judy, does that make you feel even more relieved didn't go on relieved that you didn't go on that because what i find that trip? because what i find extraordinary, there's no escape . are locked in . it means they are locked in the only way they can be unlocked is by external crew unlocked is by an external crew . and there's no winch or link to the surface . yeah. mean to the surface. yeah. mean necciweiw— to the surface. yeah. mean massively relieved,- 2 yeah. mean massively relieved, obviously. nei— massively relieved, obviously. not egweiiw— massively relieved, obviously. but equally incredibly worried for but equally incredibly worried ion ine— but equally incredibly worried ion ine peopie— but equally incredibly worried for the people on there. i don't know— for the people on there. i don't know ine— for the people on there. i don't know the people— for the people on there. i don't know the people personally , but know the people personally, but i know the people personally, but i newe— know the people personally, but i newe wow— know the people personally, but i have you know— know the people personally, but

i have you know come into conieci— i have you know come into contact with _ i have you know come into contact with some of the crew nnennenc— contact with some of the crew nnennenic enci— contact with some of the crew members and people who run ocean ceie— members and people who run ocean ceie oven— members and people who run ocean ceie ny— members and people who run ocean gate over my time— members and people who run ocean gate over my time in— members and people who run ocean gate over my time in the titanic conneniiw— gate over my time in the titanic community, people— gate over my time in the titanic community, people do talk to eecn— community, people do talk to eecn oinen. — community, people do talk to each other. so— community, people do talk to each other. so yeah, obviously nwge— each other. so yeah, obviously nwge-.— each other. so yeah, obviously nwge-. nei— each other. so yeah, obviously nwge-. nwi ini— each other. so yeah, obviously huge . but but i'm very, huge relief. but but i'm very, ven— huge relief. but but i'm very, venv wonnieci— huge relief. but but i'm very, very worried for— huge relief. but but i'm very, very worried for the people on ioeni— very worried for the people on ioenci enci— very worried for the people on board and their— very worried for the people on board and their families . i'm board and their families. i'm inci— board and their families. i'm iwci neeiiv— board and their families. i'm just really praying and hoping inei— just really praying and hoping we e— just really praying and hoping that a miracle— just really praying and hoping that a miracle happens and they get that a miracle happens and they gei—ceieiv— that a miracle happens and they gei—ceieiv. - that a miracle happens and they get—safely . julie,- get them back safely. julie, wnei— get them back safely. julie, wiei nine— get them back safely. julie, what kind of— get them back safely. julie, what kind of warnings were you given in anticipation of doing this trip about how dangerous it might be? do you think the passengers will have gone on to this this this vessel or knowing the full extent of the risks ? the full extent of the risks? yes. mean one of the things i ioonei— yes. mean one of the things i iooneci ei— yes. mean one of the things i iooneci ei ec— yes. mean one of the things i looked at as a— yes. mean one of the things i looked at as a as— yes. mean one of the things i looked at as a as a as a person going— looked at as a as a as a person going on— looked at as a as a as a person going on inic— looked at as a as a as a person going on this this— looked at as a as a as a person going on this this trip was how do going on this this trip was how to wow— going on this this trip was how to wow gei— going on this this trip was how to wow gei onw— going on this this trip was how do you get out? how can you be neccweie— do you get out? how can you be neccweie now— do you get out? how can you be rescued? how can— do you get out? how can you be rescued? how can you be saved? eccen— rescued? how can you be saved? eceen one,— rescued? how can you be saved? ocean gate, they— rescued? how can you be saved? ocean gate, they do— rescued? how can you be saved? ocean gate, they do everything inev— ocean gate, they do everything inev-inev-ne— ocean gate, they do everything they they're incredibly they can. they're incredibly professional. _ they can. they're incredibly professional. they're incredibly knowledgeable. _ knowledgeable. they've got the ieci—wonii- knowledgeable. they've got the best _world in - knowledgeable. they've got the best world in terms best team in the world in terms of best team in the world in terms oi-eni— best team in the world in terms of and submersibles. of diving and submersibles. i ioni— of diving and submersibles. i was told when— of diving and submersibles. i was told when i— of diving and submersibles. i was told when i was looking into it, was told when i was looking into g,—inev— was told when i was looking into g,—inev nei- was told when i was looking into it, they had obviously it, you know, they had obviously icic— it, you know, they had obviously ioic-ion— it, you know, they had obviously ioic-ion-ievcl lots of oxygen for four days. they— lots of oxygen for four days. t hey-a _ lots of oxygen for four days. inev-e neei— lots of oxygen for four days. they-a real time- lots of oxygen for four days. they a real time health. i

they had a real time health. i ininn— they had a real time health. i ininn inc— they had a real time health. i think it's called— they had a real time health. i think it's called way of communicating with the ship ieove— communicating with the ship ieove co— communicating with the ship above. so with— communicating with the ship above. so with the mother ship to above. so with the mother ship io neve— above. so with the mother ship io nene ce— above. so with the mother ship to make sure that— above. so with the mother ship to make sure that oxygen levels are to make sure that oxygen levels okew— to make sure that oxygen levels okavv inei— to make sure that oxygen levels are okay, that it— to make sure that oxygen levels are okay, that it was submerging , at are okay, that it was submerging ,—ei ine- are okay, that it was submerging ,—ei ine nignil , sorry, descending at the right ievei— , sorry, descending at the right ievei .— , sorry, descending at the right level ,-everything- , sorry, descending at the right level , everything okay level, that everything was okay enci— level, that everything was okay enci inei— level, that everything was okay end we won— level, that everything was okay and that you could easily come neck— and that you could easily come back-necessary- and that you could easily come back-necessary .- and that you could easily come back-necessary . i- and that you could easily come back necessary. i believe back up if necessary. i believe inene— back up if necessary. i believe inene wec— back up if necessary. i believe there was something involved we— there was something involved inn—ii— there was something involved that—it-float that meant that it could float up that meant that it could float no ii— that meant that it could float no ii nececcnv — that meant that it could float up if necessary. if it did get ioci— up if necessary. if it did get ioci in— up if necessary. if it did get ioci in env— up if necessary. if it did get lost in any way.— up if necessary. if it did get lost in any way. so, you know, i iii— lost in any way. so, you know, i iii ny— lost in any way. so, you know, i did my research— lost in any way. so, you know, i did my research and i believed it did my research and i believed ii-connieieiv— did my research and i believed it-completely-i- it was completely safe. i was wiiiing— it was completely safe. i was wiiiing io— it was completely safe. i was willing to-risk,- it was completely safe. i was willing to risk, but, willing to take the risk, but, you— willing to take the risk, but, wow know, — willing to take the risk, but, you know, who— willing to take the risk, but, you know, who knows? maybe it ciiii— you know, who knows? maybe it cit-onw— you know, who knows? maybe it still-okay. maybe- still will be okay. maybe inev-ii— still will be okay. maybe they'll-back- still will be okay. maybe they'll-back . - still will be okay. maybe they'll back . venice still will be okay. maybe they'll-back . well, hope they'll get back. well, we hope so, judy. be a terrible so, judy. there'd be a terrible irony if somehow this 22 foot long submersible with five people involved in side has actually got tangled in the wreckage of the titanic . the wreckage of the titanic. the titanic claim being lives all these years later . of course . these years later. of course. yes, it has crossed my mind that enci— yes, it has crossed my mind that end ininn— yes, it has crossed my mind that end ininn ii— yes, it has crossed my mind that and think it crossed— yes, it has crossed my mind that and think it crossed everybody's nine— and think it crossed everybody's nninci wno— and think it crossed everybody's nninci wno wno— and think it crossed everybody's mind who who knows or loves the iiienic— mind who who knows or loves the iiienic on— mind who who knows or loves the iiienic on nec— mind who who knows or loves the titanic or has a— mind who who knows or loves the titanic or has a connection in env— titanic or has a connection in env wev— titanic or has a connection in env wev inene— titanic or has a connection in any way there this isn't the ine— any way there this isn't the iinne ion— any way there this isn't the time for this,— any way there this isn't the time for this, of— any way there this isn't the time for this, of course, but

inene— time for this, of course, but inene ic— time for this, of course, but inene ic ine— time for this, of course, but there is the school of thought mg,— there is the school of thought gag, vow— there is the school of thought that, you know,— there is the school of thought that, you know, we shouldn't be going— that, you know, we shouldn't be going down— that, you know, we shouldn't be going down there,— that, you know, we shouldn't be going down there, we shouldn't be disturbed.— going down there, we shouldn't be disturbed. seeing the dead is a be disturbed. seeing the dead is e gnevevenci— be disturbed. seeing the dead is egnevevenci. ii— be disturbed. seeing the dead is a graveyard. it is— be disturbed. seeing the dead is a graveyard. it is a— be disturbed. seeing the dead is a graveyard. it is a grave site. anci— a graveyard. it is a grave site. and inic— a graveyard. it is a grave site. and this crossed— a graveyard. it is a grave site. and this crossed my mind when i wec-io— and this crossed my mind when i wec-io neve— and this crossed my mind when i wec-io nene ny- and this crossed my mind when i was to make my mind up was trying to make my mind up wiin— was trying to make my mind up with-potential— was trying to make my mind up with potential documentary with this potential documentary i to with this potential documentary i—io io. — with this potential documentary i—io io. nei- with this potential documentary i-to do. but-the. i was going to do. but on the one— i was going to do. but on the one newt— i was going to do. but on the other hand, people are fascinated— other hand, people are. fascinated _think other hand, people are- fascinated _think it is fascinated by it and think it is none—inc- fascinated by it and think it is none—ii-c-eci done respectfully. it's just, as you— done respectfully. it's just, as vow cev— done respectfully. it's just, as vow cev ,— done respectfully. it's just, as vow cev , e— done respectfully. it's just, as vow cev , e gneei— done respectfully. it's just, as you say , a great irony. if this you say, a great irony. if this is you say, a great irony. if this ic ine— you say, a great irony. if this ic ine cece— you say, a great irony. if this is the case, if— you say, a great irony. if this is the case, if titanic has cieinei— is the case, if titanic has claimed this— is the case, if titanic has claimed this submersible as wet,— claimed this submersible as wet, inci— claimed this submersible as wet, twci inci— claimed this submersible as well, just just find about your gneei— well, just just find about your gneei gneei— well, just just find about your gneei gneei vow— well, just just find about your great great your grandfather , great great your grandfather, wnei— great great your grandfather, wneilvow— great great your grandfather, what-you know- great great your grandfather, what you know about i mean, what do you know about i mean, now— what do you know about i mean, now proud— what do you know about i mean, now pnowi wec— what do you know about i mean, how proud was he— what do you know about i mean, how proud was he that he was on inei— how proud was he that he was on we cnio— how proud was he that he was on we cnin on— how proud was he that he was on that ship on its— how proud was he that he was on that ship on its maiden voyage, wnicn— that ship on its maiden voyage, wnicn wec— that ship on its maiden voyage, which was the— that ship on its maiden voyage, which was the most talked about vovege—nicionv- which was the most talked about vovege—nicionv ei| voyage in oceangoing history at inei— voyage in oceangoing history at we coini— voyage in oceangoing history at we noini e— voyage in oceangoing history at that point ? yeah.— voyage in oceangoing history at that point ? yeah. i mean, from that point? yeah. i mean, from inon— that point? yeah. i mean, from inon ine— that point? yeah. i mean, from from the research— that point? yeah. i mean, from from the research i did for my noon,— from the research i did for my noon, ne— from the research i did for my noon, ne wec— from the research i did for my book, he was 40. _ from the research i did for my book, he was 40. he had five ciiiinen— book, he was 40. he had five cniiinen. ne— book, he was 40. he had five children. he was— book, he was 40. he had five children. he was a stoker. so inev— children. he was a stoker. so inev wowed— children. he was a stoker. so they worked in— children. he was a stoker. so they worked in the bowels of the cine— they worked in the bowels of the cnin con— they worked in the bowels of the ship, con oi.— they worked in the bowels of the ship, con oi. on,— they worked in the bowels of the ship, sort of. um, she shovelling_ ship, sort of. um, she shovelling the coal into the furnaces . it— shovelling the coal into the furnaces . it was- shovelling the coal into the furnaces . it was his sort of furnaces. it was his sort of iiiin— furnaces. it was his sort of iiiin on— furnaces. it was his sort of fifth or sixth. _ furnaces. it was his sort of fifth or sixth. go- furnaces. it was his sort of fifth or sixth. go on, on, on cnioc— fifth or sixth. go on, on, on cnigc ine— fifth or sixth. go on, on, on ships like this.— fifth or sixth. go on, on, on ships like this. he was a coke. — ships like this. he was a stoker. that— ships like this. he was a stoker. that was his full time too.— stoker. that was his full time too. nei— stoker. that was his full time too. on ine— stoker. that was his full time job. but the titanic was a massive coup— job. but the titanic was a massive coup to get that because inene—

massive coup to get that because inene wec— massive coup to get that because inene e— massive coup to get that because there was a huge— massive coup to get that because there was a huge lot of poverty at there was a huge lot of poverty ei inei— there was a huge lot of poverty ei inei ine— there was a huge lot of poverty at that time. unemployment. inene-i— at that time. unemployment. inene-ci teen— at that time. unemployment. there'd been a— at that time. unemployment. there'd been a coal strike. so to there'd been a coal strike. so io-on— there'd been a coal strike. so io-on ine- there'd been a coal strike. so to-on the titanic. there'd been a coal strike. so to on the titanic was to get a job on the titanic was anci— to get a job on the titanic was massive. and _five - massive. and he had five cniiinen— massive. and he had five children and— massive. and he had five children and a- massive. and he had five children and a wife to feed. so yes,— children and a wife to feed. so vec ne— children and a wife to feed. so yesv ne wowe— children and a wife to feed. so yes, he would have been incneiiiiv— yes, he would have been. incredibly—proud yes, he would have been- incredibly_proud to be incredibly happy and proud to be onlum— incredibly happy and proud to be onlum wond— incredibly happy and proud to be on.um word had— incredibly happy and proud to be on um word had it, it would on it. um word had it, it would neve— on it. um word had it, it would neve teen— on it. um word had it, it would have been perhaps— on it. um word had it, it would have been perhaps one of his ieci—no. - have been perhaps one of his ieci—no. nei have been perhaps one of his. last—40. he was last voyages. he was 40. he was geiiing— last voyages. he was 40. he was getting on— last voyages. he was 40. he was getting on inen— last voyages. he was 40. he was getting on then as— last voyages. he was 40. he was getting on then as a stoker. um, and:— getting on then as a stoker. um, and, enci— getting on then as a stoker. um, and, end wno— getting on then as a stoker. um, and, and who knows. but yes, ceiiw— and, and who knows. but yes, ceiiw-nic— and, and who knows. but yes, sadly,-his body- and, and who knows. but yes, sadly, his body was sadly, he was. his body was never recovered. _ sadly, he was. his body was never recovered. great never recovered. so my great gnenenoinen— never recovered. so my great grandmother never she grandmother never knew. she. never had confirmation one way or never had confirmation one way on—oiviowciv- never had confirmation one way on—oiviowciv ii-cl or another. but obviously it's ioow— or another. but obviously it's wow-ne— or another. but obviously it's ioow-ne iii- or another. but obviously it's 100%-he did die.- or another. but obviously it's 100% he did die. and his 100% likely he did die. and his nonv— 100% likely he did die. and his ioivlon— 100% likely he did die. and his ioivlon ine— 100% likely he did die. and his body-on the ocean- 100% likely he did die. and his body on the ocean floor. body is on the ocean floor. all night.— body is on the ocean floor. all nigni, indw— body is on the ocean floor. all nigni, wow. wow.— body is on the ocean floor. all right, judy, judy, thank you so much for joining right, judy, judy, thank you so much forjoining us. it is fascinating how we are so fascinated. i've been to the titanic museum in belfast. it is extraordinary . oh, have extraordinary. oh, have you really, really fascinating. and ihave really, really fascinating. and i have to say , i couldn't stand i have to say, i couldn't stand the film with leonardo dicaprio . it's terrible. but but but was what? they were taking a risk? no escape pod controlled by an xbox game controller. that's how they steer it. yeah. yeah. amazing. it is amazing. we we're keeping onviowciv— amazing. it is amazing. we we're keeping obviously keeping- ' g e “n; we we're keeping obviously keeping our iingenc— keeping obviously keeping our fingers crossed— keeping obviously keeping our fingers crossed for the crew.

anci— fingers crossed for the crew. and we — fingers crossed for the crew. and we viii— fingers crossed for the crew. and we will let— fingers crossed for the crew. and we will let you know if we neen— and we will let you know if we neen envining— and we will let you know if we hear anything as— and we will let you know if we hear anything as we've heard it left hear anything as we've heard it ieii on— hear anything as we've heard it left on thursday.— hear anything as we've heard it left on thursday. it's got it's on ine— left on thursday. it's got it's on the front— left on thursday. it's got it's on the front pages of all the pepenc— on the front pages of all the pepenc ioeev— on the front pages of all the papers today worldwide, penicwieniv— papers today worldwide, particularly because of the nniiicn— particularly because of the nniiicn guy— particularly because of the british guy on— particularly because of the british guy on board. hamish tending.— british guy on board. hamish neneing. anci— british guy on board. hamish harding. and there are also four oinenc— harding. and there are also four others visiting— harding. and there are also four others visiting and shahzada newooi. — others visiting and shahzada newooi. ne— others visiting and shahzada dawood. he is— others visiting and shahzada dawood. it; iz;�*"�*"i:i;i2e ocean dawood. he is effectively british. he went to school, he went to buckingham university in his own son, is on board with him, aged just 19, and he's married to a british woman. so our thoughts are with those families as both families have asked for privacy, of course. but this is a huge worldwide story. yeah, clock is ticking, nignie— story. yeah, clock is ticking, nignie tinc— story. yeah, clock is ticking, right? mps have— ”i:in yeah, clock is ticking, right? mps have voted overwhelmingly to back a report inei— overwhelmingly to back a report we iownci— overwhelmingly to back a report that found boris— overwhelmingly to back a report that found boris johnson lied to neniieneni— that found boris johnson lied to parliament about— that found boris johnson lied to parliament about partygate . parliament about partygate. onw— parliament about partygate. oniv seven— parliament about partygate. only seven mps— parliament about partygate. only seven mps voted- parliament about partygate. only seven mps voted against the privileges committee's finding in a humiliating defeat, effectively for the former prime minister, he means he can no longer have a parliamentary pass, all former mps pass, which is all former mps are entitled to pathetic in my view. so joining us now is ionen— view. so joining us now is former advisor— . so joining us now is former advisor boris johnson, ioni— former advisor boris johnson, lord jonathan— former advisor boris johnson, lord jonathan marland. good

nonning— lord jonathan marland. good nnonnng-- lord jonathan marland. good morning,-, good. lord jonathan marland. good morning, , good to lord jonathan marland. good. morning,-, good to see morning, jonathan, good to see vow.— morning, jonathan, good to see vow. wenc— morning, jonathan, good to see vow. wene vow— morning, jonathan, good to see you. were you surprised that the voic— you. were you surprised that the voie veni— you. were you surprised that the voie weni in— you. were you surprised that the vote went in this— you. were you surprised that the vote went in this direction eiowi—e - vote went in this direction eiowi—e i- vote went in this direction. about_? i don't vote went in this direction- about_? i don't think about this report? i don't think anyone was. were they both? you know, people now have trampled over his grave, those that want his grave trampled upon that will be satisfied and those that don't won't be. it's very unseemly and it doesn't hold the conservative party in very good light. i don't think there's party needs to show its united coming into the next election and this doesn't do it any favour. should should a former nine— favour. should should a former prime minister— favour. should should a former prime minister like— 2 should should a former prime minister like theresa may neeiiv— prime minister like theresa may neeiiv neve— prime minister like theresa may really have rose— prime minister like theresa may really have rose to— prime minister like theresa may really have rose to her feet to put— really have rose to her feet to nwi ine— really have rose to her feet to out ine booi— really have rose to her feet to put the boot in— really have rose to her feet to put the boot in on— really have rose to her feet to put the boot in on one of her successor? because we all know sne-s— successor? because we all know she's never forgiven him for owsiing— she's never forgiven him for owsiing new— she's never forgiven him for ousting her? yes. well, andrew, vou— ousting her? yes. well, andrew, vow know— ousting her? yes. well, andrew, vow know es— ousting her? yes. well, andrew, you know as well— ousting her? yes. well, andrew, you know as well as i do that inene— you know as well as i do that inene isn-i— you know as well as i do that there isn't there— you know as well as i do that there isn't there is— you know as well as i do that there isn't there is bad blood ieiween— there isn't there is bad blood between the— there isn't there is bad blood between the two _ there isn't there is bad blood between the two and the bad iiooi— between the two and the bad iiooci . — between the two and the bad blood . theresa— between the two and the bad blood . theresa had- between the two and the bad blood . “e�*z blood. theresa had this opportunity to demonstrate her her ill feeling towards him and my goodness. so she did . my goodness. so she did. jonathan, what do you think ? jonathan, what do you think? inis— jonathan, what do you think? we noes— jonathan, what do you think? we ioes e—

jonathan, what do you think? this does a bigger picture in ienns— this does a bigger picture in ienns oi— this does a bigger picture in terms of the— this does a bigger picture in terms of the public perception of terms of the public perception oi wis— terms of the public perception oi inns oi— terms of the public perception of mps of politics, sessions of wesininsien— of mps of politics, sessions of westminster ,— of mps of politics, sessions of westminster , what impression westminster, what impression noes— westminster, what impression ioes ii— westminster, what impression ioes i give— westminster, what impression noes ii give io— westminster, what impression does it give to the general owiiice— does it give to the general public? well,— does it give to the general public? well, i— does it give to the general public? well, i think it's a piegwe— public? well, i think it's a piegwe on— public? well, i think it's a piegwe on on— public? well, i think it's a plague on on your house, really . i— plague on on your house, really . i chink— plague on on your house, really . i think that— plague on on your house, really . i think that ,— plague on on your house, really . i think that , you— plague on on your house, really . i think that , you know,- . i think that, you know, there's nothing more self—important at times than an mp who feels that they've been wronged and then quite often in their cases , something comes their cases, something comes round and bites them for their own indiscretions . it's a round and bites them for their own indiscretions. it's a sort of really bizarre behaviour and it's that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones syndrome, but they can't resist it . and but they can't resist it. and i'm sure there'll be a few more exposes yet of bad behaviour by mps. and exposes yet of bad behaviour by mps . and if exposes yet of bad behaviour by mps. and if you'd exposes yet of bad behaviour by mps . and if you'd heard harriet mps. and if you'd heard harriet nennnen— mps. and if you'd heard harriet nennnen in— mps. and if you'd heard harriet harman in speaking— iii“; and if you'd heard harriet harman in speaking say, i don't know— harman in speaking say, i don't know ii— harman in speaking say, i don't know ii vow— harman in speaking say, i don't know if you could— harman in speaking say, i don't know if you could bear to listen to know if you could bear to listen io ien.— know if you could bear to listen to her. jonathan— know if you could bear to listen to her. jonathan when she cneinei— to her. jonathan when she chaired the— to her. jonathan when she chaired the inquiry and of course we know what her view of inis— course we know what her view of inis es— course we know what her view of this was because _ course we know what her view of this was because she made eisoiwieiv— this was because she made absolutely clear— this was because she made absolutely clear last year that

in ne— absolutely clear last year that in nen view— absolutely clear last year that in her view, boris— absolutely clear last year that in her view, boris johnson had woken— in her view, boris johnson had broken-rules,— in her view, boris johnson had broken rules, egregious broken the rules, egregious ineecnes— broken the rules, egregious breaches—she. breaches of the rules she described. _ breaches of the rules she described. she - breaches of the rules she described. she seemed to more described. she seemed to be more egiieieci— described. she seemed to be more egiieieci in— described. she seemed to be more egiieieci in ine— described. she seemed to be more agitated in the comments vesieneev— agitated in the comments yesterday about the fact boris nei— yesterday about the fact boris neo—io- yesterday about the fact boris had—to criticise. had the temerity to criticise ine— had the temerity to criticise ine wonkings— had the temerity to criticise the workings of— had the temerity to criticise the workings of the committee , the workings of the committee, wnicn— the workings of the committee, wnicn ne — the workings of the committee, which he called— the workings of the committee, which he called a— the workings of the committee, which he called a kangaroo court iecese— which he called a kangaroo court iecese ii— which he called a kangaroo court because it-its_ which he called a kangaroo court because it-its-up.- which he called a kangaroo court because it its up. and because it made its mind up. and in-ii— because it made its mind up. and in-ii vow— because it made its mind up. and in-ii vow kook— because it made its mind up. and in-if you look at— because it made its mind up. and in-if you look at the- in fact, if you look at the sentence, 40 _ in fact, if you look at the sentence, 40 days for so—called lying— sentence, 40 days for so—called iving io— sentence, 40 days for so—called lying to parliament, 50 days for cniiicising— lying to parliament, 50 days for criticising the— lying to parliament, 50 days for criticising the committee , no, criticising the committee, no, inev— criticising the committee, no, new nosi— criticising the committee, no, they must have— criticising the committee, no, they must have loved it. that committee.— they must have loved it. that committee, when _ they must have loved it. that committee, when they went away and said, well, we're really beasting now and put him out of work and not allow him back in parliament for the rest of his life. really brilliant stuff. they must be so pleased with themselves . i they must be so pleased with themselves. i mean, it's they must be so pleased with themselves . i mean, it's quite themselves. i mean, it's quite amazing and one of the things in the debate was how the labour party protected blair when in theory he lied and lied. and of course, you know, harriet husband, jack romney mustn't speak ill of the dead, but he was treasurer of the labour party when there was the cash for peerages issue , which i was

for peerages issue, which i was on the edge of because obviously they came to investigate the conservative party for it to show, to demonstrate that we hadnt show, to demonstrate that we hadn't done any ill behaviour. but what was amazing was he claimed he'd never knew anything about all this cash coming into the into the party. so you know, these people are fools if they stand up and pontificate . stand up and pontificate. because as we've seen with bernard jenkin, you'll find stories that come back and bite you and you just adds, actually, andrew, to the whole point, your original question, i think it was you. andrew i'm sorry. bev it might have been you, but you know, how does this reflect on mps and the answer is very badly. and of course, bernard jenkin— badly. and of course, bernard ienkin wno— badly. and of course, bernard jenkinv wno vow— 2 and of course, bernard jenkin, who you mentioned, he wes-ine— jenkin, who you mentioned, he wes-ine ionv— jenkin, who you mentioned, he was-the tory mps- jenkin, who you mentioned, he was the tory mps that was one of the tory mps on that conniiiee— was one of the tory mps on that committee and— was one of the tory mps on that committee and jonathan, and he's neiwseci— committee and jonathan, and he's neiwseci io— committee and jonathan, and he's now refused to answer questions committee and jonathan, and he's now retheed to answer questions committee and jonathan, and he's now rethe fact answer questions committee and jonathan, and he's now rethe fact it nswer questions committee and jonathan, and he's now rethe fact it appearsiestions committee and jonathan, and he's now rethe fact it appears he :ions about the fact it appears he eiso— about the fact it appears he also attended— about the fact it appears he also attended a— about the fact it appears he also attended a lockdown ineeking— also attended a lockdown breaking was breaking party where alcohol was seven— breaking party where alcohol was senveci enci— breaking party where alcohol was senveci enci ii— breaking party where alcohol was served and it was— breaking party where alcohol was served and it was a— breaking party where alcohol was served and it was a party for nic— served and it was a party for nis on— served and it was a party for nis wiie— served and it was a party for his own wife who— served and it was a party for his own wife who also happens to be his own wife who also happens to ielnenien— his own wife who also happens to be.member.the_

his own wife who also happens to be member the house of be a member of the house of ionic.— be a member of the house of ionic. ks— be a member of the house of ionic. ks vow— be a member of the house of lords. as you say,— be a member of the house of lords. as you say, in lords. as you say, those in giess— lords. as you say, those in glass houses— lords. as you say, those in glass houses shouldn't throw sonesi— glass houses shouldn't throw scones—e - glass houses shouldn't throwi stones,_? that's stones, should they? that's iiei-s— stones, should they? that's inei-s my— stones, should they? that's that's my own view. we have a habit of in this country, and it's very unseemly . and you it's very unseemly. and you know, i feel i feel boris hasn't been cut any slack for everything that he had put up with during his time. yes, he divides opinion and he divides my opinion on a lot of the time. but you know, he did go through horrendous time. it must have been unbelievable pressure working in number 10 at that time. yes there was misbehaviour and he was one of them. but there was misbehaviour going throughout the whole of government and it was , after government and it was, after all, only them trying to solve a problem . for a nation, the worst problem. for a nation, the worst crisis the country has ever had. so i cut those who were working in number 10 quite a lot of slack personally . obviously it slack personally. obviously it doesn't compensate for the horrendous times that people had losing their loved ones and indeed the horrendous times we all had in lockdown. but you

know, i don't genuinely think they were not trying to do what was in the best interests of the country. would you just explain wnei— country. would you just explain wnei ii— country. would you just explain wnei ii neens— country. would you just explain what it means to— (iii. would you just explain what it means to have vi.i::v. would you just explain what it means to have your peniienenienv— what it means to have your parliamentary pass revoked like inei— parliamentary pass revoked like me i— parliamentary pass revoked like me i so— parliamentary pass revoked like me i so i— parliamentary pass revoked like that? so if this— parliamentary pass revoked like that? so if this hadn't happened . ici— that? so if this hadn't happened . in ne— that? so if this hadn't happened . in ne convi— that? so if this hadn't happened , i'd he could just— that? so if this hadn't happened , i'd he could just rock up to westminster— , i'd he could just rock up to westminster and— , i'd he could just rock up to westminster and they'd go, oh, we know— westminster and they'd go, oh, we know wno— westminster and they'd go, oh, we know who you _ westminster and they'd go, oh, we know who you are, come on in. so we know who you are, come on in. so ne— we know who you are, come on in. so ne no— we know who you are, come on in. so ne cen-i— we know who you are, come on in. so he now can't do— we know who you are, come on in. so he now can't do that. so if someone like— so he now can't do that. so if someone like you— so he now can't do that. so if someone like you invites him for innn— someone like you invites him for lunch, jonathan,— someone like you invites him for lunch, jonathan, can he still go in io— lunch, jonathan, can he still go in io ine— lunch, jonathan, can he still go in to the palace— lunch, jonathan, can he still go in to the palace of— lunch, jonathan, can he still go in to the palace of westminster 7 in to the palace of westminster e wew.— in to the palace of westminster e wet in— in to the palace of westminster ? well, i'm not— in to the palace of westminster ? well, i'm not an— in to the palace of westminster 7 a“ in to the palace of westminster 7 ’ev“ vitv“ in to the palace of westminster 7 �*vavvi;cc ’ev“ vii“ c ? well, i'm not an expert on it, but i'm. i'm assuming that i would have to ask the security to allow him to come in. and i'd have to meet him at the door and escort him into lunch . i'm not escort him into lunch. i'm not sure i'd be in a rush to do that, by the way . no, because that, by the way. no, because it's humiliating— that, by the way. no, because it's humiliating .— no, because it's humiliating. right. that's inei-s— it's humiliating. right. that's inei-s ine— it's humiliating. right. that's that's the whole— it's humiliating. right. that's that's the whole point of this, isn-i— that's the whole point of this, isn-i iii— that's the whole point of this, isn-i ii is— that's the whole point of this, isn't it? is to— that's the whole point of this, isn't it? is to humiliate boris ionnson. — isn't it? is to humiliate boris ionnson. vow— isn't it? is to humiliate boris johnson. v/viv. isn't it? is to humiliate boris johnson. v/iiv. johnson. you know, i think the good thing about boris is that he, you know, he's not someone who's easily humiliated. he'll be about it. but he's also

be angry about it. but he's also not someone who bears grudges. so he'll sort of, you know, probably take it on the chin. but i don't know necessarily that he'd want to come and have lunch the house of lords. lunch in the house of lords. bev well, can i tell you, bev no. well, can i tell you, ioneinen— bev no. well, can i tell you, ioneinen. wnv— bev no. well, can i tell you, jonathan, why would he? the food is jonathan, why would he? the food ices-— jonathan, why would he? the food ices- vow— jonathan, why would he? the food ices- vow weii— is terrible, as you well know, as is terrible, as you well know, es vow— is terrible, as you well know, es vow i— is terrible, as you well know, as you can i ask— is terrible, as you well know, as you can i ask you, jonathan koa— as you can i ask you, jonathan koi. i— as you can i ask you, jonathan koi. i onw— as you can i ask you, jonathan a&e, i only remember the downs, ionnnen.— a&e, i only remember the downs, ionnnen-vesi— a&e, i only remember the downs, jonathan. last night jonathan. he said last night vew— jonathan. he said last nightj vew—we very enigmatically, boris he sent— very enigmatically, boris he seici. on.— very enigmatically, boris he said, oh, well,— very enigmatically, boris he said, oh, well, there can always be enoinen— said, oh, well, there can always be another innings. and we know nes— be another innings. and we know ne-s e— be another innings. and we know ne-s e gneei— be another innings. and we know he's a great cricketer and he iikes— he's a great cricketer and he iikes nic— he's a great cricketer and he likes his critique, critiquing eneiogies— analogies. possibly he's ininking— analogies. possibly he's thinking could yet return to thinking he could yet return to wesininsien— thinking he could yet return to westminster-an— thinking he could yet return to westminster an mp or even westminster as an mp or even party— westminster as an mp or even penv ieeien— westminster as an mp or even party leader sometime, but not soneiine— party leader sometime, but not sometime soon.— party leader sometime, but not sometime soon. well, i think the coini— sometime soon. well, i think the poini is.— sometime soon. well, i think the point is, andrew,— sometime soon. well, i think the point is, andrew, just sorry, you— point is, andrew, just sorry, vow pnoieiiv— point is, andrew, just sorry, you probably wanted wind up you probably wanted to wind up the you probably wanted to wind up inc—inesc- you probably wanted to wind up the _these are - the point is that these are peogie— the point is that these are people overwhelmingly voted people who overwhelmingly voted him people who overwhelmingly voted nin—ieeien— people who overwhelmingly voted nin—ieeien .- people who overwhelmingly voted him _leader , you - people who overwhelmingly voted him leader , you know, him to become leader, you know, wno— him to become leader, you know, wno-egeinsi— him to become leader, you know, who-against him? - him to become leader, you know, who against him? ' who turned against him? a lot of item. — who turned against him? a lot of item. inesc— who turned against him? a lot of them. these are— who turned against him? a lot of them. these are people who many of which wanted him to return after liz truss's demise and become leader , which thankfully become leader, which thankfully he listened to a few wise heads and decided not to. and these are the people who quite honestly will go back to him

when they've lost their seats and been vanquished at an election, which i don't think they will be by the way. but if they will be by the way. but if they are, then they will turn to him as the great saviour. and i think the final point i'd make, andrew, is i'm a conservative. i bods andrew, is i'm a conservative. i boris has behaved badly. but but everyone now must put their support behind rishi sunak if they want to win this next election and put all this infighting behind. it'sjust so infighting behind. it's just so unseemly. do you think he should neve— unseemly. do you think he should neve voice.— unseemly. do you think he should have voted, jonathan?— c. do you think he should have voted, jonathan? do you inink— have voted, jonathan? do you inink kisni — have voted, jonathan? do you think rishi sunak should have voici— think rishi sunak should have voted yesterday? certainly not. he voted yesterday? certainly not. we iii— voted yesterday? certainly not. we iii ine— voted yesterday? certainly not. he did the right— voted yesterday? certainly not. he did the right thing— voted yesterday? he did the right thing by just eisieining. — he did the right thing by just abstaining. he— he did the right thing by just abstaining. vi; he did the right thing by just abstaining. he kept away from this. okay. all right.- abstaining. okay. all right. thank this. okay. all right. thank vow.— this. okay. all right. thank vow. oneei— this. okay. all right. thank vow. cneei io— this. okay. all right. thank you. great to talk- okay. all right. thank you. great to talk to you, lord denneii— you. great to talk to you, lord denneii . — you. great to talk to you, lord denneii . vew— you. great to talk to you, lord dannatt . very nice- you. great to talk to you, lord dannatt . viii: “ vi.vi; you. great to talk to you, lord dannatt . vig “ vi.vi you. great to talk to you, lord dannatt . iig “ vi.vi dannatt. very nice to see you again. nice to see you. dannatt. «vig “ vi.vi ege “ nice to see you. do dannatt. «vig “ vi.vi evv3ev “ nice to see you. do you again. nice to see you. do you inink— again. nice to see you. do you inink ne— again. nice to see you. do you think he should— again. nice to see you. do you think he should have- evv3ev “ nice to see you. do you think he should have voted? no? i think he should have voted? no? iinink— think he should have voted? no? i think i— think he should have voted? no? i think i would— think he should have voted? no? i think i would have— think he should have voted? no? i think i would have had- think he should have voted? no? i think i would have had nothing to do with it. i think they there was only seven mps voted for it, one of whom we're going to to because it just only to talk to because it just only seven support nobody had seven support him. if nobody had voted, nobody on tories voted, if nobody on the tories would have voted wouldn't

would have voted it wouldn't have same impact. have been quite the same impact. i think he did mislead i don't think he did mislead parliament. hell are parliament. what the hell are they a former they doing? banning a former prime the prime minister from the parliamentary precedent, they all because once all better behave because once you've passport set you've had your passport to set the precedent now haven't they? let us know what you think. won-i— let us know what you think. wont-give— let us know what you think. won't-give views- let us know what you think. won't give views at gb news won't you give views at gb news connenne-ii— won't you give views at gb news .com-email address- won't you give views at gb news .com email address now at .com is the email address now at ioioo— .com is the email address now at knee-nonning— .com is the email address now at 10:00 morning. valdo 10:00 this morning. valdo kilo cane-arrested- 10:00 this morning. valdo kilo cane.-arrested on. cane. the man arrested on suspicion— cane. the man arrested on suspicion oi— cane. the man arrested on suspicion of murdering barnaby weiien. — webber. grace o'malley, kumar enci— and ian kates in nottingham will neke— and ian kates in nottingham will nekeiiinsi— and ian kates in nottingham will make .first crown— and ian kates in nottingham will make first crown court make his first crown court enneenence— make his first crown courti appearance _joined make his first crown court- appearance-joined now make his first crown court- appearance _joined now on appearance. we're joined now on the by the broadcast author the show by the broadcast author and psychotherapist lucy beresford lucy morning to you beresford. lucy morning to you and good to see you . this has and good to see you. this has been an extraordinarily significant moment for nottingham and particularly the student community to students died and a school caretaker. for yes, it's been the most horrendous— yes, it's been the most horrendous incident. and because iociev— horrendous incident. and because ioiev is— horrendous incident. and because ioiev is one— horrendous incident. and because today is one week— horrendous incident. and because today is one week on it marks in a today is one week on it marks in ewev— today is one week on it marks in e wev ine— today is one week on it marks in e wev ine iinsi— today is one week on it marks in a way the first opportunity for neonie— a way the first opportunity for people io— a way the first opportunity for people io neeiiv— a way the first opportunity for people to really experience that oi— people to really experience that sense of an anniversary . okay, sense of an anniversary. okay, wnei— sense of an anniversary. okay, wnei es— sense of an anniversary. okay, wnei i— sense of an anniversary. okay, what was i doing— sense of an anniversary. okay, what was i doing this time last

week— what was i doing this time last week enci— what was i doing this time last week and how— what was i doing this time last week and how has— what was i doing this time last week and how has my world cnengeie— week and how has my world changed? and— week and how has my world changed? and i— week and how has my world changed? and i think we need to be changed? and i think we need to ie vew— changed? and i think we need to ie venv even— changed? and i think we need to ie venv eien io— changed? and i think we need to be very alert to the— changed? and i think we need to be very alert to the fact that ine— be very alert to the fact that ine neopie — be very alert to the fact that the people who've gone through inis— the people who've gone through inis ine— the people who've gone through inis. ine geopie— the people who've gone through this, the people in— the people who've gone through this, the people in nottingham in penicuien.— this, the people in nottingham in particular, but— this, the people in nottingham in particular, but also people wno— in particular, but also people wno wiii— in particular, but also people who will have— in particular, but also people who will have been family and iniencis— who will have been family and iniencis oi— who will have been family and friends of the— who will have been family and friends of the three people who were murdered— friends of the three people who were murdered will actually now be were murdered will actually now ie needing— were murdered will actually now be neeciing io— were murdered will actually now be needing to come to terms with win— be needing to come to terms with we we— be needing to come to terms with we we ceii— be needing to come to terms with what we call complicated grief ieceuse— what we call complicated grief ieceuse ii— what we call complicated grief because it is— what we call complicated grief because it is the— what we call complicated grief because it is the natural order of because it is the natural order oi iningc— because it is the natural order oi inings inei— because it is the natural order of things that everybody does die of things that everybody does iie .— of things that everybody does iie . nui— of things that everybody does iie . nui we— of things that everybody does die . but we always have that die. but we always have that inei— die. but we always have that sense that people die in a penicuien— sense that people die in a particular way— sense that people die in a particular way .- sense that people die in a particular way . they die sense that people die in a particular way. they die in old age— particular way. they die in old ege. enci— particular way. they die in old ege. ene inev— particular way. they die in old age, and they hopefully die neeceiuiiv. — age, and they hopefully die peacefully. so _ age, and they hopefully die peacefully. so if you ever have to epeience— peacefully. so if you ever have to experience a— peacefully. so if you ever have to experience a situation where soneioiv— to experience a situation where soneioiv eiec— to experience a situation where somebody dies unexpectedly, if inev— somebody dies unexpectedly, if new eie— somebody dies unexpectedly, if they die traumatically, if they die enci— they die traumatically, if they die and you're— they die traumatically, if they die and you're left with the inei— die and you're left with the sense that you— die and you're left with the sense that you weren't able to nevi— sense that you weren't able to new inen— sense that you weren't able to help inen on— sense that you weren't able to help them or save— sense that you weren't able to help them or save them, that can conniiceie— help them or save them, that can conpiiceie woun— help them or save them, that can complicate your grief . and there complicate your grief. and there are complicate your grief. and there ieiiniieiv— complicate your grief. and there are definitely ways in which the connuniiv— are definitely ways in which the community and— are definitely ways in which the community and individuals can help— community and individuals can nein enci— community and individuals can help ene ieei— community and individuals can help and heal. but as i say ioiew— help and heal. but as i say today, because— help and heal. but as i say today, because it's in a sense ine— today, because it's in a sense we iinsi— today, because it's in a sense the first week— today, because it's in a sense the first week anniversary of win— the first week anniversary of what happened— the first week anniversary of what happened ,— the first week anniversary of what happened , it will what happened, it will remobilise_ what happened, it will remobilise a- what happened, it will remobilise a lot of those enoiions— remobilise a lot of those emotions for— remobilise a lot of those emotions for the people who are

cunneniiv— emotions for the people who are cunneniiv going— emotions for the people who are currently going through it. lucy i currently going through it. lucy i ion-i— currently going through it. lucy i ion-i know— currently going through it. lucy i don't know whether you felt the i don't know whether you felt we see— i don't know whether you felt we es— i don't know whether you felt the same as i— i don't know whether you felt the same as i did, but i was tusi— the same as i did, but i was iusi so— the same as i did, but i was just so impressed. 3 just so impressed. i thought the fortitude in the face of the suffering of those parents to stand at that vigil and to call for peace and unity was so remarkable. can you explain to us from a psychotherapeutic point of view how they might have been able to do that ? one have been able to do that? one of the ways in which they- i“ v2iiv .“e7 one of the ways in which they will neve — of the ways in which they will neve neen— of the ways in which they will have been helped is that they noi— have been helped is that they not going— have been helped is that they were not going through it alone. inene— were not going through it alone. inene wee— were not going through it alone. there were three— were not going through it alone. there were three families united in gniei— there were three families united in gniei eni— there were three families united in grief and they— there were three families united in grief and they were summing— in grief and they were supporting each other within incin— supporting each other within their families— supporting each other within their families .— supporting each other within their families . and between their families. and between inose— their families. and between inose innee — their families. and between those three families. so the inei— those three families. so the sense that i'm— those three families. so the sense that i'm going through soneining— sense that i'm going through something alone can actually neeiiv— something alone can actually really exacerbate any feelings vou— really exacerbate any feelings vou nigni— really exacerbate any feelings vou nigni neve— really exacerbate any feelings you might have if you know that vouve— you might have if you know that vouve goi— you might have if you know that vouve goi e— you might have if you know that you've got a community around you,— you've got a community around you. wneinen— you've got a community around you, whether that's family, iniencis— you, whether that's family, iniencis .— you, whether that's family, friends , maybe- you, whether that's family, friends , maybe a faith community friends, maybe a faith community or even a scholastic— friends, maybe a faith community or even a scholastic academic connuniiv— or even a scholastic academic community. that— or even a scholastic academic community. that sense of not ieeiing— community. that sense of not ieeiing eione— community. that sense of not feeling alone .— community. that sense of not feeling alone . i'm not going feeling alone. i'm not going innougn— feeling alone. i'm not going innougn inis— feeling alone. i'm not going through this trauma on my own. inei— through this trauma on my own. inei viii— through this trauma on my own. that will have—

through this trauma on my own. that will have been very neiniui.— that will have been very helpful. but— that will have been very helpful. but also so when i was ieiking— helpful. but also so when i was ieiking io— helpful. but also so when i was ieiking io vou— helpful. but also so when i was talking to you just— helpful. but also so when i was talking to you just now about wnei— talking to you just now about what complicated grief, one of the what complicated grief, one of we issues— what complicated grief, one of the issues around— what complicated grief, one of the issues around it is this sense helplessness . i wasn't sense of helplessness. i wasn't ince— sense of helplessness. i wasn't inene. i— sense of helplessness. i wasn't there. i couldn't— sense of helplessness. i wasn't there. i couldn't do— sense of helplessness. i wasn't there. i couldn't do anything. newne— there. i couldn't do anything. iievie ins— there. i couldn't do anything. iievie its my— there. i couldn't do anything. maybe it's my fault . i might maybe it's my fault. i might neve— maybe it's my fault. i might have survivor— maybe it's my fault. i might have survivor guilt . these have survivor guilt. these niiueis— have survivor guilt. these rituals that— have survivor guilt. these rituals that society has created enci— rituals that society has created enci wnicn— rituals that society has created and which some— rituals that society has created and which some of those family nnennenis— and which some of those family members took— and which some of those family members took part in last week viii— members took part in last week wiii neve— members took part in last week will have been— members took part in last week will have been ways to make you ieei— will have been ways to make you ieei ieiien— will have been ways to make you feel better on _ will have been ways to make you feel better on some— will have been ways to make you feel better on some incredibly sneii— feel better on some incredibly sneii ievei— feel better on some incredibly small level. back— feel better on some incredibly small level. back in control. i give— small level. back in control. i give inis— small level. back in control. i can give this speech . i can give can give this speech. i can give inis— can give this speech. i can give inis eiciness. — can give this speech. i can give this address. i— can give this speech. i can give this address. i can— can give this speech. i can give this address. i can support my inne— this address. i can support my iniie .— this address. i can support my iniie . inose— this address. i can support my tribe . those are— this address. i can support my tribe . those are those moments tribe. those are those moments wnene— tribe. those are those moments where we're learning new skills eioui— where we're learning new skills eioui now— where we're learning new skills eioui now io— where we're learning new skills about how to cope— where we're learning new skills about how to cope with grief , about how to cope with grief, wnicn— about how to cope with grief, wnicn is— about how to cope with grief, which is that— about how to cope with grief, which is that i— about how to cope with grief, which is that i have been congieieiv— which is that i have been completely poleaxed by this eveni — completely poleaxed by this eveni nui— completely poleaxed by this eveni nui i— completely poleaxed by this event. but i am— completely poleaxed by this event. but i am beginning to iini— event. but i am beginning to iinci wevs— event. but i am beginning to find ways where— event. but i am beginning to find ways where i can regain nesienv— find ways where i can regain nesienv oi— find ways where i can regain nesienv oi nv— find ways where i can regain mastery of my life. so those es vou sev— mastery of my life. so those es vou sev .— mastery of my life. so those are, as you say , we looked at are, as you say, we looked at inei— are, as you say, we looked at we eni— are, as you say, we looked at that and probably thought how do neonie— that and probably thought how do people gei— that and probably thought how do people get through that? they get people get through that? they gei innougn— people get through that? they get through that— people get through that? they get through that because they inev— get through that because they new neen— get through that because they new neeci io — get through that because they they need to get— get through that because they they need to get through it. incin— they need to get through it. their supported— they need to get through it. their supported through it. and it's their supported through it. and is e— their supported through it. and is e neeiiv—

their supported through it. and it's a really important part of ine— it's a really important part of we ieeiing— it's a really important part of the healing process . qiévi “e

it's 10:00. welcome to the point it's10:00. welcome to the point with andrew pierce and bev turner. very good morning. thank you ion— turner. very good morning. thank you ionioining— turner. very good morning. thank you ionioining us— turner. very good morning. thank you forjoining us. so— .. very good morning. thank you forjoining us. so it is a egeinsi— you forjoining us. so it is a race against time. the mission to race against time. the mission io seve— race against time. the mission io e— race against time. the mission to save a titanic— race against time. the mission to save a titanic tourist sunnennei— to save a titanic tourist submarine is- to save a titanic tourist submarine is currently lost 435 niec— submarine is currently lost 435 nniies souin— submarine is currently lost 435 miles south of— submarine is currently lost 435 miles south of new finland. one of miles south of new finland. one oi ine— miles south of new finland. one of the passengers— miles south of new finland. one of the passengers on board is nniiisn— of the passengers on board is british billionaire hamish neniing— british billionaire hamish harding and— british billionaire hamish harding and also shahzada newooi.— harding and also shahzada newooi. e— harding and also shahzada dawood, a uk— harding and also shahzada dawood, a uk based board member of dawood, a uk based board member oi ine— dawood, a uk based board member oi ine wince-s— dawood, a uk based board member of the prince's trust— dawood, a uk based board member of the prince's trust charity. he of the prince's trust charity. we eiso — of the prince's trust charity. we eiso nes— of the prince's trust charity. he also has his— of the prince's trust charity. he also has his 19 year old son, suievnen— he also has his 19 year old son, cuievnen .— he also has his 19 year old son, suievnen . on— he also has his 19 year old son, suleyman , on board. it is suleyman, on board. it is inougni— suleyman, on board. it is thought that— suleyman, on board. it is thought that the submarine has enougn— thought that the submarine has enougn oxygen— thought that the submarine has enough oxygen to last until inunsiev— enough oxygen to last until inunsciev . — enough oxygen to last until thursday . more- enough oxygen to last until thursday. iva2 thursday. more bad news for boris. we'll be getting you all the latest on that, of course. more bad news for boris. the former pm lost his parliamentary pass to the palace of westminster after mps he westminster after mps voted. he did deliberately mislead parliament lockdown parties parliament over lockdown parties enigmatically. he said last night, there's always another innings and any moment now valdo

kalo cain, the man arrested on suspicion of murdering three people in nottingham last week, will make his first crown court appearance. it's been one week since— appearance. it's been one week ine— appearance. it's been one week since the attacks— i it's been one week since the attacks happened. we-ii— since the attacks happened. we-ii ining— since the attacks happened. we'll bring you— since the attacks happened. we'll bring you the latest from coun— we'll bring you the latest from coun .— we'll bring you the latest from coun . pius.— we'll bring you the latest from court . plus, we've— we'll bring you the latest from court . plus, we've got tony court. plus, we've got tony bunion— court. plus, we've got tony nuvion enci— court. plus, we've got tony buxton and nigel nelson coming in ine— buxton and nigel nelson coming in we siuciio— buxton and nigel nelson coming in the studio this— buxton and nigel nelson coming in the studio this morning to neniie— in the studio this morning to handle some— in the studio this morning to handle some of— in the studio this morning to handle some of the other big sionies— handle some of the other big sioniesline— handle some of the other big stories-the day— handle some of the other big stories the day to debate stories of the day to debate nose.— stories of the day to debate inose. nui— stories of the day to debate those. but first— stories of the day to debate those. but first of all, here is woun— those. but first of all, here is your news with— those. but first of all, here is your news with tatiana sanchez . your news with tatiana sanchez. eein— your news with tatiana sanchez. nein. inenk— your news with tatiana sanchez. nein. inenk vou— your news with tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very— your news with tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very much- your news with tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. five people on board, a missing submersible tourist vessel to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic ocean have approximately two days left of oxygen. rescue teams continue to search for a british billionaire who is believed to be on board as well as a father and son. shahzada dawood and sulaiman dawood is now being confirmed. captain hamish harding, a pilot who owns an aviation company, wrote on

social media, saying he would be taking part in the dive. yesterday, the coastguard lost contact with the vessel around one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to the titanic site. oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the situation is critical. they're in a very iiiiicuii— critical. they're in a very difficult situation - vi.” . vie they're in a very difficult situation here. inev-ne— difficult situation here. they're sitting in four kilometres,- they're sitting in four kilometres, 13,000ft of water. inei-s— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. was we — kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit of the sub's ceneiiiiiv— that's the limit of the sub's capability anyway. they're in a vew— capability anyway. they're in a venv eeen— capability anyway. they're in a venv deep pen— capability anyway. they're in a venv deep pen oi— capability anyway. they're in a very deep part of the ocean. inev-ne— very deep part of the ocean. inev-ne e— very deep part of the ocean. inev-ne e iong— very deep part of the ocean. they're a long way from the coesi— they're a long way from the coesi es— they're a long way from the coast as well. _ they're a long way from the coast as well. so- they're a long way from the coast as well. so getting any son— coast as well. so getting any son oi— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue attempt to them is going— sort of rescue attempt to them is going io— sort of rescue attempt to them is going to ieke— sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time. um, and inene— is going to take time. um, and inene ee— is going to take time. um, and inene vew— is going to take time. um, and there are very few— is going to take time. um, and there are very few vessels that are there are very few vessels that ceneiie— there are very few vessels that cegeiie oi— there are very few vessels that are capable of going those are capable of going to those sons— are capable of going to those sons oi— are capable of going to those sorts of depths. _ are capable of going to those sorts of depths. .vv�*~v.37�*~ei 2 sorts of depths. mps have voted to approve the report which found boris johnson deliberately misled parliament over lockdown parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned against the former prime minister include banning him from having a pass to access parliament. the liberal democrats have accused the prime minister of rishi sunak of being too weak to even

turn up to the vote. shadow scotland secretary ian murray agrees with the sanctions. given this is a prime minister during a health crisis that has never been seen before, who has been found guilty of wilfully lying to parliament and essentially sticking two fingers up to the pubucin sticking two fingers up to the public in terms of what they were sacrificing during that covid crisis . and were sacrificing during that covid crisis. and i think were sacrificing during that covid crisis . and i think the covid crisis. and i think the senciion— covid crisis. and i think the sanction benefits— co z�*v vi.” and i think the sanction benefits the crime. is— sanction benefits the crime. us win— sanction benefits the crime. it's what boris— sanction benefits the crime. it's what boris johnson has done — it's what boris johnson has none. is— it's what boris johnson has done. it's what— it's what boris johnson has done. it's what he's always done . nes— done. it's what he's always done . ne-s ewev— done. it's what he's always done . he's ran away instead of iecing— . he's ran away instead of iecing ine— . he's ran away instead of facing the music and taking any son— facing the music and taking any son oi— facing the music and taking any sort of responsibility or accountability for his actions e— accountability for his actions over 6 million— accountability for his actions over 6 million people with disabilities— over 6 million people with disabilities will receive a one on.— disabilities will receive a one oii. ino— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost of— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost of living payment inon— off, £150 cost of living payment inon ioiev— off, £150 cost of living payment inon ioiev . — off, £150 cost of living payment from today . the— off, £150 cost of living payment from today . . from today. the government says the payments part of a £100 billion support package for vulnerable households as those who are eligible will receive the payment automatically . the payment automatically. welcome pensions secretary mel stride earlier explained to gb news the detail of the package . news the detail of the package. we recognise the pressures of inei— we recognise the pressures of we inings—

we recognise the pressures of we inings so— we recognise the pressures of that brings so the payment of nice— that brings so the payment of nine wiii— that brings so the payment of nine wiii ie— that brings so the payment of £150 will be for— that brings so the payment of £150 will be for 6 million iiseiiei— £150 will be for 6 million disabled people. it will go out ieiween— disabled people. it will go out ieiween no— disabled people. it will go out between now and— disabled people. it will go out between now and july the 4th. neonie— between now and july the 4th. neogie ion-i— between now and july the 4th. people don't need to apply. it viii— people don't need to apply. it will automatically go into their ienk— will automatically go into their bank accounts— will automatically go into their bank accounts where they're gueiiiving— bank accounts where they're gueiiiving ion— bank accounts where they're qualifying for certain benefits, sucn — qualifying for certain benefits, sucn es— qualifying for certain benefits, such as personal— qualifying for certain benefits, such as personal independence pewnenis— such as personal independence oevnenis enci— such as personal independence payments and disability living eiiowence— payments and disability living allowance and— payments and disability living allowance and various other ieneiiis. — allowance and various other benefits. but— allowance and various other benefits. but look , this is part benefits. but look, this is part of benefits. but look, this is part oi e— benefits. but look, this is part oi e nucn— benefits. but look, this is part of a much broader package image . ine— of a much broader package image . inc housing— of a much broader package image . the housing secretary- of a much broader package image . the housing secretary says the uk faces an urgent need to build more homes as the population grows. michael gove says that house building could not be looked at purely in numbers, but was instead about creating homes and settlements for future generations. he claimed that quality was just as much a priority as the number of houses his new research suggests taking regular daytime naps could be good for brain health. it could slow the rate at which the brain shnnks slow the rate at which the brain shrinks as we age. according to research carried out at ucl. the study suggests the average difference in brain volume

between people programmed to be habitual nappers and those who are not was equivalent to two and a half to six and a half years of ageing . now consumer years of ageing. now consumer protection company trading standards warns that large quantities of restricted chemicals have been found in toys sold in the uk. it found a bow and arrow containing 100 times the legal limit and a fashion doll set found to contain 300 times the limit. its warning parents to buy toys and games from a reputable store and avoid overseas sellers or online marketplaces . a cancer charity marketplaces. a cancer charity says tens of thousands of people have experienced delays in checks over the past decade . checks over the past decade. macmillan cancer support claims 180,000 people in the uk had to wait far too long for diagnostic tests or treatment . their tests or treatment. their analysis found that waiting time targets hit a record low last year across the country. but the government says it's committed to detecting cancer. earlier and

faster . and ascot racegoers are faster. and ascot racegoers are hoping the king and queen will join them for the opening day today, which hosts some of the world's best horses and jockeys. charles and camilla, both fans of racing, are expected to make an appearance during the five day meet in berkshire. the late queen was a passionate owner and breeder thoroughbreds . she breeder of thoroughbreds. she had than 20 ascot had more than 20 royal ascot winners during her 70 year reign . this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to andrew and . it's back to andrew and. bev while the search is continuing for submersive_ for the submersive tourist vessei— for the submersive tourist vessel, which— for the submersive tourist vessel, which route for the submersive tourist- vessel, which-route to vessel, which was en route to ine— vessel, which was en route to the - shipwreck, - vessel, which was en route to the shipwreck, it's all the titanic shipwreck, it's all conieci— the titanic shipwreck, it's all conieci es— the titanic shipwreck, it's all contact was cut— the titanic shipwreck, it's all contact was cut off 48 hours ego. — contact was cut off 48 hours ego. ins— contact was cut off 48 hours ego. its in— contact was cut off 48 hours ago. it's in the— contact was cut off 48 hours ago. it's in the middle of the aikeniic— ago. it's in the middle of the atlantic ocean.— ago. it's in the middle of the atlantic ocean. two and a half niec— atlantic ocean. two and a half nniies eeen— atlantic ocean. two and a half nniies neen . — atlantic ocean. two and a half miles deep . british- atlantic ocean. two and a half miles deep. . .. ”vi miles deep. british billionaire hamish harding, chairman of private plane firm action aviation, is understood to be aboard the five person oceangate

expeditions vessel. it was reporter overdue on sunday evening, about 435 miles south of newfoundland and also on board is shahzada dawood, who is one of the richest men in pakistan. vice chairman, one of the pakistan. vice chairman, one of we iengesi— pakistan. vice chairman, one of the largest companies- e.e“ vice chairman, one of the largest companies in the couninv.— the largest companies in the couninv. nui— the largest companies in the country. but he's— the largest companies in the country. but he's got strong kinks— country. but he's got strong links-britain- country. but he's got strong links britain because he links with britain because he was buckingham was went to buckingham univensiiv— university and he's on board wiin— university and he's on board win-ie— university and he's on board wiiniie-oii- university and he's on board with-19-old son- with his 19 year old son sulaiman _ with his 19 year old son sulaiman in- with his 19 year old son sulaiman in a- with his 19 year old son sulaiman “ with his 19 year old son— sulaiman in a statement, they've thanked colleagues and friends whilst praying for the safe return gb news national reporter paul hawkins joins us in the studio now. just for anybody tuning in who isn't aware of this story, paul, tuning in who isn't aware of this story, paul , what tuning in who isn't aware of this story, paul, what was tuning in who isn't aware of this story, paul , what was the this story, paul, what was the purpose trip and who's on purpose of the trip and who's on it? how much does it cost to explore the titanic? so there are five people— explore the titanic? so there are five people on- ”vi e“ vi.7’ so there are five people on board. it's a vessei— are five people on board. it's a vessei eioui— are five people on board. it's a vessel about 22— are five people on board. it's a vessel about 22 foot long. it ieii— vessel about 22 foot long. it ieii on— vessel about 22 foot long. it left on sunday— vessel about 22 foot long. it left on sunday and then about an noun— left on sunday and then about an noun-ns— left on sunday and then about an hour-45 minutes,— left on sunday and then about an hour-45 minutes, it- left on sunday and then about an hour 45 minutes, it takes hour and 45 minutes, it takes eioui— hour and 45 minutes, it takes eioui e— hour and 45 minutes, it takes about a couple— hour and 45 minutes, it takes about a couple of— hour and 45 minutes, it takes about a couple of hours to reach the about a couple of hours to reach ine wneck— about a couple of hours to reach ine wneck oi— about a couple of hours to reach the wreck of the _ about a couple of hours to reach the wreck of the titanic, which is eioui— the wreck of the titanic, which is eioui zi— the wreck of the titanic, which is about 2.4 miles— the wreck of the titanic, which is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, kni— is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, knci ii— is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, and i siis— is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, and i siis in— is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, and it sits in a— is about 2.4 miles down. yeah, and it sits in a trench on the noon— and it sits in a trench on the ioiion oi— and it sits in a trench on the bottom of the— and it sits in a trench on the bottom of the atlantic ocean. so it bottom of the atlantic ocean. so i iekes— bottom of the atlantic ocean. so i iekes z—z— bottom of the atlantic ocean. so it takes 2—2 hours— bottom of the atlantic ocean. so it takes 2—2 hours to reach the noon— it takes 2—2 hours to reach the ioiion .— it takes 2—2 hours to reach the ioiion . kni— it takes 2—2 hours to reach the

bottom . and about an hour and 45 bottom. and about an hour and 45 ninuies— bottom. and about an hour and 45 ninuies in— bottom. and about an hour and 45 ninuies in inev— bottom. and about an hour and 45 minutes in, they lose all conieci. — minutes in, they lose all contact. and— minutes in, they lose all contact. and that's sunday eiiennoon. — contact. and that's sunday afternoon. it's— contact. and that's sunday afternoon. it's 96 hours of oxygen.— afternoon. it's 96 hours of oxygen. so— afternoon. it's 96 hours of oxygen. so there's about two news— oxygen. so there's about two news-ion — oxygen. so there's about two days-from today.- oxygen. so there's about two days from today. that's days left from today. and that's why— days left from today. and that's wnv-inis— days left from today. and that's why-this-search. why there's this huge search oneneiion— why there's this huge search operation underway. “vi”vi operation underway. there's no wnec— operation underway. there's no wiei i— operation underway. there's no what i found extraordinary, paul what i found extraordinary, paul, is paul, reading about it is there's no there was no escape means no rescue pod. and they are locked in. the are literally locked in. the only way they can be unlocked is by external crew. that's by an external crew. that's right . and by an external crew. that's nigni . one sev— by an external crew. that's right . and say now- by an external crew. that's right . and say now if- e“ i that's right . and say now if it is at right. and say now if it is at ine— right. and say now if it is at we ioiion — right. and say now if it is at we ioiion .— right. and say now if it is at the bottom , which is 2.4 miles the bottom, which is 2.4 miles down— the bottom, which is 2.4 miles down ine— the bottom, which is 2.4 miles down, the pressure there is eioui— down, the pressure there is eioui zoo— down, the pressure there is about 200 times what it is in woun— about 200 times what it is in wow ce— about 200 times what it is in you cine.— about 200 times what it is in your car tire. it's— about 200 times what it is in your car tire. it's huge. and inei— your car tire. it's huge. and we iekes— your car tire. it's huge. and that takes very— your car tire. it's huge. and that takes very ,- your car tire. it's huge. and that takes very , very specialist that takes very, very specialist eguinneni— that takes very, very specialist eguigneni .— that takes very, very specialist equipment, specialist submarines to equipment, specialist submarines io neke— equipment, specialist submarines io neke inei— equipment, specialist submarines to make that dive— equipment, specialist submarines to make that dive to rescue them if to make that dive to rescue them ii inev— to make that dive to rescue them ii inev ee— to make that dive to rescue them if they are there. _ to make that dive to rescue them if they are there. i— to make that dive to rescue them if they are there. i mean, it is nossiiie. — if they are there. i mean, it is nossiiie. i— if they are there. i mean, it is possible. i was— if they are there. i mean, it is possible. i was listening to one oceenognepnen— possible. i was listening to one oceanographer this morning who sein— oceanographer this morning who seici ins— oceanographer this morning who said it's still— oceanographer this morning who said it's still possible that its— said it's still possible that it's floated _ said it's still possible that it's floated to _ said it's still possible that it's floated to the surface and inev— it's floated to the surface and inev-neven-i- it's floated to the surface and they haven't picked it they simply haven't picked it up wiin— they simply haven't picked it up with reconnaissance. and with the air reconnaissance. and inev— with the air reconnaissance. and they-aeroplanes,- they are using aeroplanes, inev-ne— they are using aeroplanes, inev-ne using— they are using aeroplanes, they're using a— they are using aeroplanes, they're using a research vessel as they're using a research vessel es-inev-ne— they're using a research vessel as-they're using- they're using a research vessel as they're using sonar as well. they're using sonar iuovs— as well. they're using sonar- iuovs. —oneneiion buoys. and the search operation is-iineciei.— buoys. and the search operation is-directedlknow- buoys. and the search operation is directed. know this is being directed. i know this is being directed. i know this is-coesi— is being directed. i know this is-coesi oi— is off the coast of newfoundland, the search newfoundland, but the search oneneiion— newfoundland, but the search operation-being— newfoundland, but the search operation being coordinated operation is being coordinated eciueiiv— actually from boston in massachusetts. the

massachusetts. that's where the ceneiien — massachusetts. that's where the ceneiien enci— massachusetts. that's where the canadian and the— massachusetts. that's where the canadian and the us search. but sonneowi— canadian and the us search. but somehowlvessel_ canadian and the us search. but somehowlvessel has— canadian and the us search. but somehowlvessel has got- canadian and the us search. but somehow vessel has got to somehow a vessel has got to attach a to this vessel attach a winch to this vessel and winch it up. and literally winch it up. yeah. yeah. and how and literally winch it up. - yeah. yeah. and how complicated is inei— yeah. yeah. and how complicated is we going— yeah. yeah. and how complicated is we going io— yeah. yeah. and how complicated is that going to be?— yeah. yeah. and how complicated is that going to be? well, inei-s— is that going to be? well, inei-s going— is that going to be? well, that's going to- is that going to be? well, that's going to be incredibly conpiiceiei— that's going to be incredibly complicated if— that's going to be incredibly complicated if they can find it. if complicated if they can find it. ii inev— complicated if they can find it. ii inev cen— complicated if they can find it. if they can find— complicated if they can find it. if they can find it. and- complicated if they can find it. �*" vie“ �*" “2 . and it if they can find it. and it depends on— if they can find it. and it depends on the- �*" i“ �*" “2 . and it depends on the what state the sunnennei— depends on the what state the sunnennei is— depends on the what state the submarine is in.— depends on the what state the submarine is in. and because, of course, when you're— submarine is in. and because, of course, when you're rising to ine— course, when you're rising to inc-ion — course, when you're rising to the-from that- course, when you're rising to the from that depth, the surface from that depth, you need— the surface from that depth, you need io— the surface from that depth, you need io ie— the surface from that depth, you need io ie verve— the surface from that depth, you need to be very, very careful. vou— need to be very, very careful. vou ion-i— need to be very, very careful. vou ion-i gei— need to be very, very careful. you don't get the— need to be very, very careful. you don't get the bends that you get you don't get the bends that you gei-nnessune— you don't get the bends that you get-pressure right.- you don't get the bends that you get pressure right. and so get the pressure right. and so we—ine we don't know what state the sunnennei— we don't know what state the submarine .in,_ we don't know what state the submarine in, but certainly submarine is in, but certainly at submarine is in, but certainly ei-noneni— submarine is in, but certainly at-moment it's- submarine is in, but certainly at moment it's missing. and at the moment it's missing. and as at the moment it's missing. and es-ine— at the moment it's missing. and es-ine ieiesi- at the moment it's missing. and as _the latest we- at the moment it's missing. and as the latest we have as you say, the latest we have on-iieniiiv— as you say, the latest we have on-iieniiiv oi- as you say, the latest we have on - identity of that i on it is the identity of that nenlioeni— on it is the identity of that man board, shahzada dawood, man on board, shahzada dawood, who:— man on board, shahzada dawood, wno—is— man on board, shahzada dawood, wno—is e— man on board, shahzada dawood, who,_is a pakistani. who, as you say, is a pakistani nnsnsssnnn— who, as you say, is a pakistani businessman with— who, as you say, is a pakistani businessman with very strong links— businessman with very strong unnslnns— businessman with very strong links-the uk,— businessman with very strong links the uk, lives in the links to the uk, lives in the un. — links to the uk, lives in the un. -sn— links to the uk, lives in the uk. _on board- links to the uk, lives in the uk. on board the uk. he was on board the snnnnnnsn— uk. he was on board the submarine with his sulaiman submarine with his son sulaiman ns-s— submarine with his son sulaiman ns-s-engn— submarine with his son sulaiman he's engro corporation he's a ceo of engro corporation .- petrochemicals - he's a ceo of engro corporation . petrochemicals group . they're a petrochemicals group based— . they're a petrochemicals group based in— . they're a petrochemicals group based in in— . they're a petrochemicals group based in in pakistan. he's a nnennn— based in in pakistan. he's a nnennn sn— based in in pakistan. he's a member of the— based in in pakistan. he's a member of the founder's circle at member of the founder's circle an nne— member of the founder's circle at the british— member of the founder's circle at the british asian trust. that is n— at the british asian trust. that is a kind— at the british asian trust. that is a kind si— at the british asian trust. that is a kind of group— at the british asian trust. that is a kind of group of very nnsninsni— is a kind of group of very prominent leaders from the south asian— prominent leaders from the south asian community— prominent leaders from the south asian community that worked to try asian community that worked to in ani— asian community that worked to in and inner— asian community that worked to try and better the— asian community that worked to try and better the sort of the sinninni— try and better the sort of the

sinninni si— try and better the sort of the standard of living in the south asian— standard of living in the south asian diaspora.— standard of living in the south asian diaspora. he's also a innsiss— asian diaspora. he's also a innsiss ni— asian diaspora. he's also a trustee at seti _ asian diaspora. he's also a trustee at seti as the search for extraterrestrial life . for extraterrestrial life. nnnisn— for extraterrestrial life. hamish harding is on board. nes— hamish harding is on board. ns-s n— hamish harding is on board. he's a british— hamish harding is on board. he's a british the— hamish harding is on board. he's a british the prince's trust as well. i think paul, isn't he.7 i trust as well. i think paul, isn't he? i think he supported the prince, which is prince charles's pet charity. absolutely, yes. so «he's charles's pet charity. - absolutely, yes. so he's got inks— absolutely, yes. so he's got iinks io— absolutely, yes. so he's got iinks is very— absolutely, yes. so he's got links to very prominent organisations. and then, of. course,-on-we've organisations. and then, of- course,-on-we've got course, also on board, we've got nnnisn— course, also on board, we've got hamish harding.— course, also on board, we've got hamish harding-a- course, also on board, we've got hamish harding. a british hamish harding. he's a british busnessan— businessman and explorer sieebian— businessman and explorer. stockton _chief stockton rush. he's the chief eeeuiive— stockton rush. he's the chief executive oceangate who executive of oceangate who own the executive of oceangate who own ine—inen- executive of oceangate who own ine—inen is- executive of oceangate who owni ine—inen is yea the submarine. and then 73 year old the submarine. and then 73 year bib-henn— the submarine. and then 73 year bin-henry aneu— the submarine. and then 73 year old henry nigel, he's old paul henry nigel, he's a nenen— old paul henry nigel, he's a french explorer— old paul henry nigel, he's a french explorer .— old paul henry nigel, he's a french explorer . and they would french explorer. and they would he french explorer. and they would be neuia— french explorer. and they would he would have— french explorer. and they would he would have paid all of them uauia— he would have paid all of them uauia nave— he would have paid all of them would have paid,— he would have paid all of them would have paid, although you uauia—bennabsl would have paid, although you. would—perhaps not would have paid, although you w0lceo, perhaps not would have paid, although you w0lceo, but perhaps not would have paid, although you w0lceo, but they perhaps not would have paid, although you w0lceo, but they would|aps not would have paid, although you w0lceo, but they would have|ot the ceo, but they would have pain— the ceo, but they would have pain aboun— the ceo, but they would have paid about $250,000 to take this eiani— paid about $250,000 to take this eiani bau— paid about $250,000 to take this eiani nay nib— paid about $250,000 to take this eiani nay nib ,— paid about $250,000 to take this eight day trip , not— paid about $250,000 to take this eight day trip , not eight days eight day trip, not eight days to eight day trip, not eight days is ine— eight day trip, not eight days to the bottom,— eight day trip, not eight days to the bottom, but eight days out to the bottom, but eight days eui in— to the bottom, but eight days eui in ine— to the bottom, but eight days out in the ocean.— to the bottom, but eight days out in the ocean. and at the nnenneni— out in the ocean. and at the neneni-an— out in the ocean. and at the moment an annual trip and moment it's an annual trip and it's—years-i it's been going for three years. imagine— it's been going for three years. imagine being— it's been going for three years. imagine being in— it's been going for three years. imagine being in there, five men in a— imagine being in there, five men in a 22— imagine being in there, five men in a 22 ieei— imagine being in there, five men in a 22 foot vessel— imagine being in there, five men in a 22 foot vessel going two ana— in a 22 foot vessel going two and a— in a 22 foot vessel going two and a ban— in a 22 foot vessel going two and a half miles— in a 22 foot vessel going two and a half miles to the effectively _ and a half miles to the effectively to - and a half miles to the effectively to the bottom of the bean.— effectively to the bottom of the ocean. yeah, i'm— effectively to the bottom of the ocean. 4:13“ g effectively to the bottom of the ocean. / g ocean. yeah, i'm wondering how often they've done this journey. do we know how often this journey has been completed

successfully? wonder. it's successfully? i wonder. it's twice. only twice. twice so 20, 20. and i think twice. only twice. twice so 20, 20. and | think it— twice. only twice. twice so 20, 20. and i think it was- twice. only twice. twice so 20, 20. and | think it was 21- {.izj; q’xg {.izj; {.izj; so 20, 20. and i think it was 21 and zon— 20. and i think it was 21 and zone. sa— 20. and i think it was 21 and zone. so is— 20. and i think it was 21 and 2022. so it's an— 20. and i think it was 21 and 2022. so it's an annual trip, nabbe— 2022. so it's an annual trip, name inab— 2022. so it's an annual trip, right? that they— 2022. so it's an annual trip, right? that they take and i ine— right? that they take and i mean, the company, the company are mean, the company, the company naming— mean, the company, the company are talking about— mean, the company, the company are talking about expanding the trip are talking about expanding the nib ,— are talking about expanding the bin , aiinauan— are talking about expanding the trip , although at— are talking about expanding the trip , although at the moment, trip, although at the moment, uauia— trip, although at the moment, one would have— trip, although at the moment, one would have thought that inaus— one would have thought that inai-s ain— one would have thought that that's off the— one would have thought that that's off the cards at the memenn — that's off the cards at the moment. but— that's off the cards at the moment. but yeah, hasn't been moment. but yeah, it hasn't been bane— moment. but yeah, it hasn't been done many— moment. but yeah, it hasn't been done many times,— moment. but yeah, it hasn't been done many times, but up until ibis— done many times, but up until ibis bamb— done many times, but up until ibis beini ii— done many times, but up until this point it has— done many times, but up until this point it has had a 100% success rate. _ this point it has had a 100% success rate. well how we've beani— success rate. well how we've heard statements— success rate. well how we've heard statements from the iamiiies— heard statements from the families effectively thanking beame— families effectively thanking beabie bi— families effectively thanking people for their support , but it people for their support, but it musi— people for their support, but it musi be— people for their support, but it must be excruciating to have your— must be excruciating to have you is— must be excruciating to have you is near— must be excruciating to have your 19 year old— must be excruciating to have your 19 year old son on board ana— your 19 year old son on board and your— your 19 year old son on board and your husband— your 19 year old son on board and your husband and your busbana— and your husband and your husband and— and your husband and your husband and the families of all the husband and the families of all be saber— husband and the families of all the other gentlemen that are on beani— the other gentlemen that are on beani- ana— the other gentlemen that are on beani- ana is— the other gentlemen that are on board. and it's the— the other gentlemen that are on board. and it's the not knowing. veab. — board. and it's the not knowing. yeah. whenever— board. and it's the not knowing. yeah. whenever you talk about a baieniiai— yeah. whenever you talk about a baieniiai-iiie— yeah. whenever you talk about a potential-life or- potential loss of life or someone someone missing, someone someone goes missing, it's someone someone goes missing, ii-s— - someone someone goes missing, ii-s— nib- someone someone goes missing, ii-s— nii menl someone someone goes missing,| ii-s— nii . it's the not knowing. all men. bean— it's the not knowing. all men. veablauess— it's the not knowing. all men. veablauess ii-s— it's the not knowing. all men. yeah,iguess it's also- it's the not knowing. ”if“ yeah, guess it's also the best yeah, i guess it's also the best case scenario— yeah, i guess it's also the best case scenario is— yeah, i guess it's also the best case scenario is what the best case scenario is,— case scenario is what the best case scenario is, as you say, aneu— case scenario is, as you say, ibeu bane— case scenario is, as you say, they have already emerged somewhere out— they have already emerged somewhere out in the ocean , and

somewhere out in the ocean, and yet communications— somewhere out in the ocean, and yet communications haven't been made— yet communications haven't been made ie— yet communications haven't been made is ine— yet communications haven't been made to the mainland or the essei— made to the mainland or the essei ana— made to the mainland or the vessel and they're floating on the vessel and they're floating on be sunaee— vessel and they're floating on the surface of— vessel and they're floating on the surface of the water. that nauiu— the surface of the water. that uauiu be— the surface of the water. that uauiu be ine— the surface of the water. that would be the best case scenario . yeah. the next is that they're at least alive , but they're at at least alive, but they're at the bottom. of course, the bottom. then, of course, it's against time. yeah. it's a race against time. yeah. because to that because you've got to get that specialist equipment. there's very few submarines can very few submarines that can reach depth and you've reach that depth and you've got to to site and then to get them to the site and then make diet. and i imagine the make the diet. and i imagine the decision— make the diet. and i imagine the decision nai— make the diet. and i imagine the decision not to— make the diet. and i imagine the decision not to-some- i: and i imagine the decision not to some form decision not to have some form of decision not to have some form ebb-ine— decision not to have some form of-the submersible. decision not to have some form of the submersible when of cable on the submersible when it of cable on the submersible when ii-aaun— of cable on the submersible when ii-aann is— of cable on the submersible when it-down is because,- of cable on the submersible when it down is because, of it went down is because, of ii— it went down is because, of course, it could— it went down is because, of course, it could get caught up in—aiiaebeal in currents if it was attached to in currents if it was attached is ine— in currents if it was attached be be be— in currents if it was attached be be be ine— in currents if it was attached to the to the top. _ in currents if it was attached to the to the top. yeah, absolutely. - to the to the top. yeah, absolutely. ' i: to the to the top. yeah, absolutely. i: absolutely. and the waters around there are can be around there are they can be choppy the moment. the choppy at the moment. the conditions are pretty good. the visibility the visibility is low. but the search and rescue operators say that is pretty decent that the water is pretty decent at the moment, it's at the moment, but it's difficult. you know, it's two and half miles down. it's very and a half miles down. it's very deep. proving deep. and yeah, it's proving a real challenge. this will be the aeebesi— real challenge. this will be the aeebesi aeeb— real challenge. this will be the deepest deep sea— ”chi fg this will be the deepest deep sea rescue abenaiian— deepest deep sea rescue operation ever- deepest deep sea rescue operation ever launched. possibly-— operation ever launched. possibly. yeah.— operation ever launched. possibly. yeah. i'd- operation ever launched. possibly. yeah. i'd have to check out, but it must be check that out, but it must be one yeah, it must be. and one of. yeah, it must be. and you think it took— one of. yeah, it must be. and you think it took till- / c and you think it took till 1985 to

nine— you think it took till 1985 to find .wreckage- you think it took till 1985 to find wreckage of the find the wreckage of the iiianiee— find the wreckage of the titanic?i know- find the wreckage of the titanic? know we're much more titanic? i know we're much more sabbisiieaiea— titanic? i know we're much more sophisticated with— titanic? i know we're much more sophisticated with sonar eauibmeni— sophisticated with sonar- equipment—must sophisticated with sonar- equipment_must be equipment now, but it's must be like equipment now, but it's must be bike—a— equipment now, but it's must be iibe—a neeaie- equipment now, but it's must be like—a needle in- like looking for a needle in a baysiaeb. — like looking for a needle in a baysiaeb. -is.- like looking for a needle in a haystack. yeah. like looking for a needle in a- haystack. _is. yeah. and haystack. yeah, it is. yeah. and i haystack. yeah, it is. yeah. and inanea— haystack. yeah, it is. yeah. and inanea unai— haystack. / c yeah. and i wonder what mechanism is i wonder what the mechanism is inan— i wonder what the mechanism is ibai. inab— i wonder what the mechanism is that. that takes— i wonder what the mechanism is that. that takes back to that. that takes them back to the that. that takes them back to be sunaee— that. that takes them back to the surface. so— that. that takes them back to the surface. so whether whether the surface. so whether whether ibe—is— the surface. so whether whether ibe—is inab- the surface. so whether whether the is that whatever the speculation is that whatever inab— the speculation is that whatever ibai—is— the speculation is that whatever that—is-brokenl the speculation is that whateveri that—is-broken or that mechanism is has broken or the that mechanism is has broken or be saber— that mechanism is has broken or the other idea,— that mechanism is has broken or the other idea, i— that mechanism is has broken or the other idea, i believe, is inab— the other idea, i believe, is ibai they— the other idea, i believe, is that they might— the other idea, i believe, is that they might the vessel iiseb— that they might the vessel itself might— that they might the vessel itself might have got entangled in ine— itself might have got entangled in the remains— itself might have got entangled in the remains of— itself might have got entangled in the remains of the titanic in neaiiy— in the remains of the titanic in some really chilling hinckley banis— some really chilling hinckley inanie nau— some really chilling hinckley ironic way, possibly , but it is ironic way, possibly, but it is a buae— ironic way, possibly, but it is a buge aea— ironic way, possibly, but it is a buge . — ironic way, possibly, but it is a huge area . ruiz; ”it; ironic way, possibly, but it is a huge area . "it; g a huge area. we're talking about, you know, hundreds of miles wide along this area. and of course, where they went down wasn't exactly where the titanic was. and it's just a short distance and they distance away. and then they travelled so the fact is, travelled to it. so the fact is, we just don't know, right? it's being piloted by.xbox- being piloted by xbox game being piloted by an xbox game eaninaiien — being piloted by an xbox game controller. this— being piloted by an xbox game controller. this is— being piloted by an xbox game controller. this is the bit that seems extraordinary . ' f seems extraordinary. a joystick, a man— seems extraordinary. a joystick, a small joystick, handheld device. any of your kids have got xbox is and the got these xbox is and the ballast was abandoned . ballast was abandoned. construction pipes. it feels iike— construction pipes. it feels like-almost— construction pipes. it feels like-almost sort- construction pipes. it feels like almost sort of been like it's almost sort of been ieaeiben — like it's almost sort of been together. yeah,— like it's almost sort of been together. / like it's almost sort of been together. “43?" together. yeah, but but construction pipes are made of

hardy material very thick so they can withstand that pressure and given that, i can't recall and given that, i can't recall an incident like this ever happening before, it shows that they do have a pretty successful dive. yeah. yeah well, it's waniauiae— dive. yeah. yeah well, it's worldwide interest- i: / / well, it's worldwide interest in this , worldwide interest in this, ism-i— worldwide interest in this, isn't there? _ worldwide interest in this, isn't there? “43?" g isn't there? yeah. fingers crossed. keep us posted, paul. yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a— yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a bin— yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a bin inabi— yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a bin nigni — yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a bit. right it— yeah, we'll speak to paul again in a bit. right c iii“; in a bit. right it mps have voted overwhelmingly to back a report that found boris johnson lied parliament about lied to parliament about partygate. only mps lied to parliament about partygate . only mps voted partygate. only seven mps voted aaainsi— partygate. only seven mps voted againsi ine— partygate. only seven mps voted against the privileges— against the privileges committee's against the privileges- committee's-which is a committee's finding, which is a bebo— committee's finding, which is a bean-eeien— committee's finding, which is a pretty-defeat for- committee's finding, which is a pretty defeat for the pretty robust defeat for the farmer— pretty robust defeat for the former prime— pretty robust defeat for the former prime minister. he's lost his parliamentary— former prime minister. he's lost his parliamentary pass, which is given— his parliamentary pass, which is given ie— his parliamentary pass, which is giuen be abi— his parliamentary pass, which is given to all former— his parliamentary pass, which is given to all former mps so they can come and go— given to all former mps so they can come and go as they please. vie-ie— can come and go as they please. we're-joined— can come and go as they please. vie-ie-ibineu by— can come and go as they please. we're-joined by gb- can come and go as they please. we're-joined by gb news- we're now joined by gb news political editor, deputy political editor, the deputy political editor, the deputy political harwood . political editor tom harwood. good morning, tom. boris johnson was talking last night and his usual ebullient self and said, well, there's always another innings. i wouldn't have thought that would go down very well with this morning . perhaps with mps this morning. perhaps not, no. the with mp5 this morning. perhaps not, no. the former— with mp5 this morning. perhaps not, no. the former prime- not, no. the former prime iiinisien— not, no. the former prime minister boris— not, no. the former prime minister boris johnson, was speaking— minister boris johnson, was speaking ai— minister boris johnson, was speaking at the— minister boris johnson, was speaking at the international bemaenai— speaking at the international

democrat union— speaking at the international democrat union conference, which is an— democrat union conference, which is an aiiianee— democrat union conference, which is an alliance of— democrat union conference, which is an alliance of sort— democrat union conference, which is an alliance of sort of centre nigni— is an alliance of sort of centre ngbi banies— is an alliance of sort of centre right parties around the world. inienesbingin— right parties around the world. interestingly, that was a speech he interestingly, that was a speech be asni— interestingly, that was a speech be asni babi— interestingly, that was a speech he wasn't paid for— interestingly, that was a speech he wasn't paid for given that he ieieb— he wasn't paid for given that he can fetch hundreds of thousands of bounds— can fetch hundreds of thousands of bounds bi— can fetch hundreds of thousands of pounds for speeches. it's inienesiing— of pounds for speeches. it's interesting that— of pounds for speeches. it's interesting that he turned up ibene— interesting that he turned up ibene, bui— interesting that he turned up ibene, bui yes— interesting that he turned up there, but yes, he did sort of ie— there, but yes, he did sort of seem to hint— there, but yes, he did sort of seem to hint perhaps in the ieasi— seem to hint perhaps in the least subtle— seem to hint perhaps in the least subtle way— seem to hint perhaps in the least subtle way possible that he least subtle way possible that be is— least subtle way possible that he is thinking— least subtle way possible that he is thinking of— least subtle way possible that he is thinking of a potential eamebaeb— he is thinking of a potential eamebaeb .— he is thinking of a potential comeback . and,— he is thinking of a potential comeback . and, of course, we comeback. and, of course, we bane— comeback. and, of course, we bave beani— comeback. and, of course, we have heard him— comeback. and, of course, we have heard him talk about that before— have heard him talk about that before-mane— have heard him talk about that before more vague sense before in the more vague sense of referring— before in the more vague sense of referring re — before in the more vague sense of referring to cincinnatus and the of referring to cincinnatus and be resi— of referring to cincinnatus and be resr er— of referring to cincinnatus and be resr of ii— of referring to cincinnatus and the rest of it .— of referring to cincinnatus and the rest of it . but— of referring to cincinnatus and the rest of it . but clearly, the rest of it. but clearly, basi— the rest of it. but clearly, iasr nigni— the rest of it. but clearly, last night was— the rest of it. but clearly, last night was a was a pretty arembeiming— last night was a was a pretty overwhelming vote in the burning— overwhelming vote in the building behind me. of course, ibere— building behind me. of course, ibere baa— building behind me. of course, there had been— building behind me. of course, there had been many reports that banis— there had been many reports that baris iabnsen— there had been many reports that boris johnson had— there had been many reports that boris johnson had been asking his boris johnson had been asking bis subbaners— boris johnson had been asking his supporters to— boris johnson had been asking his supporters to not turn out to his supporters to not turn out be rare,— his supporters to not turn out be rare, ia— his supporters to not turn out to vote, to abstain because the sanerian — to vote, to abstain because the sanction that— to vote, to abstain because the sanction that the— to vote, to abstain because the sanction that the privileges commiiree — sanction that the privileges committee had _ sanction that the privileges committee had recommended while the committee had recommended while rbe susensiban— committee had recommended while the suspension of— committee had recommended while the suspension of the house was subsianiiai. — the suspension of the house was substantial. the— the suspension of the house was substantial. the other recommendation of not allowing banis— recommendation of not allowing baris iabnsan— recommendation of not allowing boris johnson to— recommendation of not allowing boris johnson to apply for a farmer— boris johnson to apply for a former members pass is really

gube— former members pass is really guiie a— former members pass is really guire a iigbi— former members pass is really quite a light sanction in deed, given— quite a light sanction in deed, given inab— quite a light sanction in deed, given that the— quite a light sanction in deed, given that the former prime iiinisier— given that the former prime minister has— given that the former prime minister has such status and eeiebriiv— minister has such status and celebrity that— minister has such status and celebrity that it's unlikely he neura— celebrity that it's unlikely he vauia vani— celebrity that it's unlikely he would want to _ celebrity that it's unlikely he would want to be sort of wandering— would want to be sort of wandering into portcullis house or member— wandering into portcullis house or another element of the parliamentary— or another element of the parliamentary estate to sit down for a— parliamentary estate to sit down for a guiei— parliamentary estate to sit down for a guier sub— parliamentary estate to sit down for a quiet cup of— parliamentary estate to sit down for a quiet cup of tea . of for a quiet cup of tea. of course, this— for a quiet cup of tea. of course, this sanction doesn't brevenr— course, this sanction doesn't brevenr rbar. — course, this sanction doesn't prevent that. the— course, this sanction doesn't prevent that. the former prime iiinisrer— prevent that. the former prime minister from _ prevent that. the former prime minister from accessing parliament. _ minister from accessing parliament. it just prevents him bam— parliament. it just prevents him from accessing— parliament. it just prevents him from accessing it— parliament. it just prevents him from accessing it by himself so he from accessing it by himself so be san— from accessing it by himself so be siiii— from accessing it by himself so he can still be— from accessing it by himself so he can still be brought in by amber— he can still be brought in by amber bass— he can still be brought in by another pass holder. so barenriaiiv— another pass holder. so potentially it's not the it's nai— potentially it's not the it's nei ine— potentially it's not the it's not the biggest sanction in aeiuaiiiv— not the biggest sanction in actuality, and— not the biggest sanction in actuality, and more of a svmbaiie— actuality, and more of a symbolic display of condemnation bam— symbolic display of condemnation from ine— symbolic display of condemnation from the house— symbolic display of condemnation from the house that boris is breirv— from the house that boris is pretty irritated— from the house that boris is pretty irritated that those iris— pretty irritated that those seven mps actually voted against it seven mps actually voted against ii beause— seven mps actually voted against ii beause ii— seven mps actually voted against it because it just— seven mps actually voted against it because it just draws aiieniian— it because it just draws attention to _ it because it just draws attention to the fact there vverenr— attention to the fact there vverenr verv— attention to the fact there weren't very many on his side beause— weren't very many on his side because so many— weren't very many on his side because so many of his people busi— because so many of his people iusi sain— because so many of his people just said wanted— because so many of his people just said wanted nothing to do viab— just said wanted nothing to do vviib ibis— just said wanted nothing to do with this report— just said wanted nothing to do with this report and abstained . with this report and abstained. absbiureiv—

with this report and abstained. absolutely . people— with this report and abstained. ' cigar people like jacob absolutely. people like jacob bees-nagg— absolutely. people like jacob bees-naggvba— ' cigar people like jacob rees—mogg, who spoke in the aebare— rees—mogg, who spoke in the debate criticising _ rees—mogg, who spoke in the debate criticising the way in vbieb— debate criticising the way in vbieb ine— debate criticising the way in which the privileges committee was run and the— which the privileges committee was run and the partiality of ine— was run and the partiality of be ebair— was run and the partiality of be ebair ar— was run and the partiality of the chair of that— was run and the partiality of the chair of that committee, he decided— the chair of that committee, he decided ra— the chair of that committee, he decided to not— the chair of that committee, he decided to not vote. many boris johnson— decided to not vote. many boris johnson supporters decided to not johnson supporters decided to nei vaie— johnson supporters decided to nei vaie .— johnson supporters decided to not vote . over— johnson supporters decided to not vote . over 200 conservative not vote. over 200 conservative iris— not vote. over 200 conservative iris iii— not vote. over 200 conservative iris iii nai— not vote. over 200 conservative mps did not vote,— not vote. over 200 conservative mps did not vote, including the imme— mps did not vote, including the prime minister.— mps did not vote, including the prime minister. but it is interesting— prime minister. but it is interesting that a division was saber.— interesting that a division was eaiiea. in— interesting that a division was called. in fact,— interesting that a division was called. in fact, this could have gene— called. in fact, this could have gene rbraugb— called. in fact, this could have gone through on— called. in fact, this could have gone through on a— called. in fact, this could have gone through on a nod with no ai— gone through on a nod with no names of those— gone through on a nod with no names of those who voted being recorded— names of those who voted being recorded .— names of those who voted being recorded . bur— names of those who voted being recorded . but a— names of those who voted being recorded . but a division was recorded. but a division was breed— recorded. but a division was breed bv— recorded. but a division was forced by the— recorded. but a division was forced by the labour chief whip, bian— forced by the labour chief whip, nian cambbeii— forced by the labour chief whip, alan campbell ,— forced by the labour chief whip, alan campbell, and that was breed— alan campbell, and that was forced because— alan campbell, and that was forced because when this was being— forced because when this was being discussed— forced because when this was being discussed and it was going to being discussed and it was going is go— being discussed and it was going is go be— being discussed and it was going is go be inab— being discussed and it was going to go to that vote— being discussed and it was going to go to that vote potentially a nod:— to go to that vote potentially a nod, potentially— to go to that vote potentially a nod, potentially a— to go to that vote potentially a nod, potentially a division , and nod, potentially a division, and bian— nod, potentially a division, and alan campbell,— nod, potentially a division, and alan campbell, the labour mp, sbaurea— alan campbell, the labour mp, sbeuiea ,— alan campbell, the labour mp, sbeuiea , be,— alan campbell, the labour mp, shouted , no, no— alan campbell, the labour mp, shouted , no, no ,— alan campbell, the labour mp, shouted , no, no , no, no, on the shouted, no, no, no, no, on the sine— shouted, no, no, no, no, on the sine ai— shouted, no, no, no, no, on the side at base— shouted, no, no, no, no, on the side of those opposing the reborn— side of those opposing the report, thereby— side of those opposing the report, thereby forcing a division— report, thereby forcing a division, and— report, thereby forcing a division, and he ended up being aieiier— division, and he ended up being aieiier rar— division, and he ended up being a teller for the— division, and he ended up being

a teller for the noes , despite a teller for the noes, despite being— a teller for the noes, despite being a— a teller for the noes, despite being a labour— a teller for the noes, despite being a labour mp when all other iabaur— being a labour mp when all other iabaur iris— being a labour mp when all other labour mps voted— being a labour mp when all other labour mps voted i. _ being a labour mp when all other labour mps voted i. so that breed— labour mps voted i. so that breed inab— labour mps voted i. so that forced that division and made inab— forced that division and made sure that those— forced that division and made sure that those names would be eauniea— sure that those names would be eeuniea as— sure that those names would be counted as mps— sure that those names would be counted as mps filed through rbase— counted as mps filed through those division— counted as mps filed through those division lobbies . those division lobbies. as thank you.— those division lobbies. as thank you. ism.— those division lobbies. as thank you, tom. thanks very much. tom howard there down at westminster . let's now get the thoughts of political editor of huffpost uk and friend of the show, kevin schofield yield. good morning, kevin. morning. kevin. morning. good morning. what did you make of the vote? not exactly a shock . no. it was not exactly a shock. no. it was always not exactly a shock. no. it was aivavs going— not exactly a shock. no. it was aivavs gaing ra— not exactly a shock. no. it was aivavs going is go— not exactly a shock. no. it was always going to go the- \rr:::r cxfificcg f no. it was always going to go the way it veni— always going to go the way it venr .— always going to go the way it venr . i— always going to go the way it went. i think— always going to go the way it went. i think tom's right there. i went. i think tom's right there. i ibinb— went. i think tom's right there. iibinb bans— went. i think tom's right there. i think boris johnson's team vvauia— i think boris johnson's team would rather— i think boris johnson's team would rather it— i think boris johnson's team would rather it hadn't gone to a vars— would rather it hadn't gone to a vaie, vvbieb— would rather it hadn't gone to a vaie, vbieb is— would rather it hadn't gone to a vote, which is obviously why iabaur— vote, which is obviously why labour forced— vote, which is obviously why labour forced it.— vote, which is obviously why labour forced it. and because as as vau— labour forced it. and because as as you busi— labour forced it. and because as as you iusr said,— labour forced it. and because as as you just said, andrew, it demonstrates— as you just said, andrew, it demonstrates the lack of support reaiiv— demonstrates the lack of support reaiiv inab— demonstrates the lack of support really that boris— demonstrates the lack of support really that boris johnson has got really that boris johnson has gar nn— really that boris johnson has gar in— really that boris johnson has got now in the— really that boris johnson has got now in the house of commons. so got now in the house of commons. so veab— got now in the house of commons. so veab ii— got now in the house of commons. so veab i was— got now in the house of commons. so yeah i a— got now in the house of commons. so yeah, it was a pretty overwhelming result . and yeah, overwhelming result. and yeah, it overwhelming result. and yeah, i means— overwhelming result. and yeah, i be-s— overwhelming result. and yeah, it means he's been stripped of his-obviously— it means he's been stripped of his-obviously the- his pass. obviously the committee— his pass. obviously the committee wanted to impose a 90 day susensiban— committee wanted to impose a 90 day suspension and— committee wanted to impose a 90 day suspension and boris johnson bre—embiea— day suspension and boris johnson bre-embrea inab— day suspension and boris johnson pre—empted that by quitting

rariiameni— pre—empted that by quitting parliament altogether and it aaesn-i— parliament altogether and it doesn't prevent— parliament altogether and it doesn't prevent him coming back at doesn't prevent him coming back ai sme— doesn't prevent him coming back ai bamb— doesn't prevent him coming back at some point in— doesn't prevent him coming back at some point in the future . at some point in the future. ine— at some point in the future. the committee— at some point in the future. the committee we- at some point in the future. the committee we are- at some point in the future. the committee we are the committee , harriet harman et al, committee, harriet harman et al, were deeply frustrated that he resigned before they could suspend him , which is why they suspend him, which is why they stuck the ludicrous 50 day sentence on top of the 40 day sentence. the 50 days, because he was so naughty. he criticised the workings of the committee, calling it a kangaroo court. yeah they were very annoyed at that. and yeah they were very annoyed at that . and obviously boris that. and obviously boris iebnsan— that. and obviously boris johnson went— and obviously boris johnson went public with his win— johnson went public with his vviib bis— johnson went public with his with his views— johnson went public with his with his views before the report aui. ne— with his views before the report came out. he saw— with his views before the report came out. he saw an advanced cow— came out. he saw an advanced can an— came out. he saw an advanced can of ii— came out. he saw an advanced can or ii bir— came out. he saw an advanced copy of it hit the— came out. he saw an advanced copy of it hit the roof , decided copy of it hit the roof, decided he copy of it hit the roof, decided be was— copy of it hit the roof, decided be going— copy of it hit the roof, decided be gaing ra— copy of it hit the roof, decided he was going to quit, and gave out he was going to quit, and gave bur a— he was going to quit, and gave bur a verv— he was going to quit, and gave out a very strong,— he was going to quit, and gave out a very strong, lengthy siaiemenb— out a very strong, lengthy statement, as— out a very strong, lengthy statement, as you say , talking statement, as you say, talking absur— statement, as you say, talking about kangaroo— statement, as you say, talking about kangaroo court. the eammiiiee— about kangaroo court. the committee, which has to people nave— committee, which has to people bave ia— committee, which has to people have to remember,— committee, which has to people have to remember, is a conservative- have to remember, is a conservative majority on on the eammiiiee. — conservative majority on on the committee. they— conservative majority on on the committee. they took a very dim view— committee. they took a very dim ar— committee. they took a very dim at bar. — committee. they took a very dim view of that. so— committee. they took a very dim view of that. so yeah, you're nigni— view of that. so yeah, you're rigbi inab— view of that. so yeah, you're right that they— view of that. so yeah, you're right that they added on extra days— right that they added on extra days even— right that they added on extra days, even though he will never aeiuaiiv— days, even though he will never aeiuaiiv-rbem— days, even though he will neveri actually _them-he's actually serve them because he's no actually serve them because he's

na-an iii.— actually serve them because he's no-an mp. could- actually serve them because he's no an mp. could you hear no longer an mp. could you hear the no longer an mp. could you hear rbe sauna— no longer an mp. could you hear rbe sauna ai— no longer an mp. could you hear the sound of old— no longer an mp. could you hear the sound of old scores being seriiea— the sound of old scores being settled when— the sound of old scores being settled when theresa may rose as farmer— settled when theresa may rose as irmer imme— settled when theresa may rose as former prime minister, effectively _ former prime minister, effectively ousted by boris iabnsen— effectively ousted by boris iabnsen ia— effectively ousted by boris johnson to put— effectively ousted by boris johnson to put the boot in? viiibbui— johnson to put the boot in? viiibbui a— johnson to put the boot in? without a doubt— johnson to put the boot in? without a doubt . i- johnson to put the boot in? r:r:::r. i mean, johnson to put the boot in? i mean, yeah, without a doubt. i mean, yeah, we abi— without a doubt. i mean, yeah, we aii inev— without a doubt. i mean, yeah, we all knew once— i mean, yeah, we all knew once theresa may abbearea— we all knew once theresa may abbearea in— we all knew once theresa may appeared in the— we all knew once theresa may appeared in the chamber vesieraav— appeared in the chamber yesterday that she was going to sneak— yesterday that she was going to sneak ana— yesterday that she was going to speak and ii— yesterday that she was going to speak and it was— yesterday that she was going to speak and it was not going to be sembiimeniarv— speak and it was not going to be complimentary towards boris iabnsen— complimentary towards boris iabnsan. bui— complimentary towards boris johnson. but i— complimentary towards boris johnson. but i think what was naiieeabie— johnson. but i think what was. noticeable _there noticeable though was that there were_were also- were others who were also eriiieai— were others who were also eriiieai ai— were others who were also critical of boris— were others who were also critical of boris johnson, who you— critical of boris johnson, whoj vau—evbeeiea you might not have expected them to you might not have expected them ie—ieaasem— you might not have expected them ie—ieaasem iei- to be. andrea leadsom for insanie— to be. andrea leadsom for instance,-penny- to be. andrea leadsom for instance, penny mordaunt instance, and penny mordaunt inm— instance, and penny mordaunt iron-inani— instance, and penny mordaunt from-front bench- instance, and penny mordaunt from front bench when from the front bench when she opened— from the front bench when she opened - debate _ from the front bench when she opened-debate as- from the front bench when she opened debate as commons opened the debate as commons ieaaer. — opened the debate as commons ieaaer. i— opened the debate as commons leader. i think— opened the debate as commons leader. i think she— opened the debate as commons leader. i think she went a bit iunber— leader. i think she went a bit iuriber inan— leader. i think she went a bit further than people expected. ner— further than people expected. nevus—- further than people expected. nervvas— verv- her to go. she was very uncomplimentary , shall we say, uncomplimentary, shall we say, absur— uncomplimentary, shall we say, abaui bans— uncomplimentary, shall we say, about boris johnson's honours list:— about boris johnson's honours gg, bis— about boris johnson's honours list, his resignation honours risi— list, his resignation honours iisi as— list, his resignation honours iisi as verb— list, his resignation honours list as well, made it clear that sne— list as well, made it clear that sbe vas— list as well, made it clear that sbe going— list as well, made it clear that she was going to— list as well, made it clear that she was going to vote with the eammiiiee. — she was going to vote with the committee. now,— she was going to vote with the committee. now, in the end, eigbi— committee. now, in the end, eight cabinet— committee. now, in the end, eight cabinet members voted with the eight cabinet members voted with ibe eemmiiiee— eight cabinet members voted with the committee ,— eight cabinet members voted with the committee , obviously not the committee, obviously not ieisbi— the committee, obviously not bisbi sunab— the committee, obviously not rishi sunak, which has raised a few rishi sunak, which has raised a iev evebravs. — rishi sunak, which has raised a few eyebrows. and we'll be ieeiing— few eyebrows. and we'll be ieeiing ia— few eyebrows. and we'll be looking to find— few eyebrows. and we'll be looking to find out exactly what the looking to find out exactly what ibe imme— looking to find out exactly what the prime reasoning the prime minister's reasoning was-rarer— the prime minister's reasoning was-later today. - was for that later today. nabeiuiiv,— was for that later today. hopefully, because we don't know

yet hopefully, because we don't know yer-be— hopefully, because we don't know yer-be baving- yet. wasn't he having a fascinating conversation with the of sweden, the prime minister of sweden, whoever well so yeah, whoever that is? well so yeah, yesterday we were told by his official spokesman that, yeah, that was one of the several engagements that the prime minister had yesterday , which minister had yesterday, which meant that, you know, he couldn't possibly make it to parliament in the parliament to take part in the vote, even though lasted for vote, even though it lasted for five hours. and the vote didn't babben— five hours. and the vote didn't babben-abaui— five hours. and the vote didn't happen-about half- �*" and the vote didn't happen about half past happen until about half past nine—im- happen until about half past. nine—i-m-ibe nine last night. i'm sure if the imme— nine last night. i'm sure if the prime minister— nine last night. i'm sure if the prime minister of— nine last night. i'm sure if the prime minister of all people vvaniea— prime minister of all people wanted-there,- prime minister of all people wanted there, then he wanted to be there, then he neura— wanted to be there, then he vauia bave— wanted to be there, then he would have been so yeah, would have been there. so yeah, as would have been there. so yeah, asisavr— would have been there. so yeah, asisavv be-s— would have been there. so yeah, asisay, he's been— would have been there. so yeah, as say, he's been very coy, as i say, he's been very coy, basn-i— as i say, he's been very coy, hasn't-anything- as i say, he's been very coy, hasn't anything away as hasn't given anything away as to his hasn't given anything away as to bis-personab— hasn't given anything away as to his personal thoughts the his own personal thoughts on the eammiiiee-s— his own personal thoughts on the committee's-we're- committee's report. so we're ieeiing— committee's report. so we're ieeiing-inab- committee's report. so we're looking-that out- committee's report. so we're looking that out and an looking to find that out and an evbianaiian— looking to find that out and an explanation given— looking to find that out and an explanation given as why he explanation given as to why he diam-i— explanation given as to why he mini-rum- explanation given as to why he bian-i-iurn ub- explanation given as to why he| didn't-turn uplvote didn't bother to turn up to vote basi— didn't bother to turn up to vote iasi-aii— didn't bother to turn up to vote last-all right.— didn't bother to turn up to vote last all right. thank last night. all right. thank you,— last night. all right. thank you-kevin- last night. all right. thank. you,-kevin schofield you, kevin. kevin schofield there. i you know what? i'm with you on the fact that think you on the fact that i think rishi sunak should have rishi sunak probably should have stayed it. yeah, i think stayed out of it. yeah, i think so. stayed out of it. yeah, i think ne-s— stayed out of it. yeah, i think ne-s ine— stayed out of it. yeah, i think so. he's the prime— : e yeah, i think so. he's the prime minister. ban-i— so. he's the prime minister. ban-i gei— so. he's the prime minister. don't get grubby. it's it's don't get grubby. it's a it's a grubby— don't get grubby. it's a it's a grubbv aiiain— don't get grubby. it's a it's a grubby affair. it's— don't get grubby. it's a it's a grubby affair. it's over. boris islienger— grubby affair. it's over. boris islienger in— grubby affair. it's over. boris is longer in house. is no longer in the house. vvbai-s— is no longer in the house. was ine— is no longer in the house. what's the there is no longer in the house.- what's the _there needs to what's the point? there needs to be an— what's the point? there needs to be an amnesiv— what's the point? there needs to be an amnesty on— what's the point? there needs to be an amnesty on of the be an amnesty on all of the iaebaavvn. — be an amnesty on all of the lockdown. g �*" lockdown. partygate fines, whether you're in the

government, you're in government, whether you're in the on. the public. we need to move on. ithink. and the public. we need to move on. i think. and of course, the aiming— i think. and of course, the iiming ai— i think. and of course, the timing of the— i think. and of course, the timing of the daily- ’“

more and the teacher who lectured and hectored 13 lectured and hectored that 13 year for refusing to year old girl for refusing to accept her fellow girl accept that her fellow girl pupil was a cat, she should have been disciplined at the very least, because if it'd been the other round. yeah, yeah, she other way round. yeah, yeah, she vauia— other way round. yeah, yeah, she vauia-been— other way round. yeah, yeah, she would-been-we're- other way round. yeah, yeah, she would been we're going would have been out. we're going to would have been out. we're going in be— would have been out. we're going to be talking about that. and also still to come, your mortgage going increase mortgage is going to increase any we've got liam any further. we've got liam halligan to tell us halligan here to tell us everything we to know. everything that we need to know. this on gb news, this is the point on gb news, britain's

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britain's a. news. it's 1027 britain's a. news. it's1027 bbiannan— britain's a. news. it's1027 rhiannon to— britain's a. news. it's1027 rhiannon to the- ’“ \r it's 1027 rhiannon to the point with gb beus— rhiannon to the point with gb beus abbrev— rhiannon to the point with gb news andrew pierce and bev imre— news andrew pierce and bev imre ana— news andrew pierce and bev turner and we've— news andrew pierce and bev turner and we've got in the siuaia— turner and we've got in the siuaia eur— turner and we've got in the studio our very— turner and we've got in the studio our very own business and economics editor— studio our very own business and economics editor liam halligan eabinei— economics editor liam halligan cabinet talking— economics editor liam halligan cabinet talking about interest rares— cabinet talking about interest raies todavr — cabinet talking about interest rates today, aren't they? abseiuieiv— rates today, aren't they?i absolutely-sure rates today, aren't they?- absolutely-sure there absolutely and i'm sure there will nervous of will be nervous ahead of tomorrow's inflation number at 7 am. tomorrow. i'll be here in a.m. tomorrow. i'll be here in the gb news studio that inflation number for may isn't isn't an exaggeration to say . isn't an exaggeration to say. andrew i would say rishi sunak the trajectory of his premiership depends on that single inflation number for the consumer price index. there'll be other data around which nerds like me will be interpreting food price inflation and core inflation. the producer price index, which points to future price rises. if that inflation number is currently 8.7 and april for 2% in the us, 6.1% in the eurozone, if our inflation number still starts with an eight, then we're going to see a big interest interest rate rise from the bank of england, possibly half a, up to 5% in one

bound and it will dominate prime minister's question time. it will dominate politics for the next few weeks and months until the next inflation number comes out. and rishi came in. he was going to sort this— out. and rishi came in. he was going to sort this out. - out. and rishi came in. he was going to sort this out. he- “r: his“ f ’“ he was going to sort this out. he was going— going to sort this out. he was going ia— going to sort this out. he was going be sari— going to sort this out. he was going to sort this— going to sort this out. he was going to sort this out. he was going to sort this out. it; going to sort this out. he was going to sort this out. rz; going to sort this out. he was going— going to sort this out. he was going in— going to sort this out. he was going in sari— going to sort this out. he was going to sort this out. he was going to sort this out. he made it. you know, he made a pledge to halve inflation by the end of the year. and lots people the year. and lots of people said, oh, so easy. that's said, oh, that's so easy. that's going happen anyway. may going to happen anyway. it may happen, if it is 5% by happen, but even if it is 5% by the of the year, that's the end of the year, that's still more than twice the bank of england's and we're of england's target. and we're not about price falls. not talking about price falls. andrew inflation comes andrew when inflation comes down, prices down, we're talking about prices going less so the going up less quickly. so the cost living squeeze eases, cost of living squeeze eases, but it doesn't reverse. and for people but it doesn't reverse. and for beanie-mangages- e : e ”it;rrtflint; and for people mortgages, liam, people with mortgages, liam, ibere— people with mortgages, liam, there eye—watering there are some eye—watering iigures— there are some eye—watering figures knocking— there are some eye—watering figures knocking around the figures knocking around at the memeni— figures knocking around at the moment-talk- figures knocking around at the moment. _talk to. figures knocking around at the- moment. _talk to people. figures knocking around at the- nwasznt. _talk to people. figures knocking around at the nwas chatting talk to people. figures knocking around at the nwas chatting to talk to people. figures knocking around at the nwas chatting to some k to people. figures knocking around at the nwas chatting to some people)ple. i was chatting to some people ibis—iike- i was chatting to some people this—like, well,i this weekend, it's like, well, is— this weekend, it's like, well, ii-s-gene— this weekend, it's like, well, ii-s-gene ub— this weekend, it's like, well, it's gone up. come off it's just gone up. i've come off my— it's just gone up. i've come off mv-raie— it's just gone up. i've come off mv-raie ane— it's just gone up. i've come off my-rate and it's- my fixed rate and it's quadrupled.- my fixed rate and it's quadrupled. let's have a look at ei— quadrupled. let's have a look at some of these— quadrupled. let's have a look at some of these numbers because i-ve— some of these numbers because i-ve-eb— some of these numbers because i-ve-eb beus- some of these numbers because i've gb news graphics i've got some gb news graphics bere— i've got some gb news graphics bere ana— i've got some gb news graphics here and radio— i've got some gb news graphics here and radio listeners can can bear— here and radio listeners can can bear-me. — here and radio listeners can can bear-me. bers— here and radio listeners can can bear-me. let's have- here and radio listeners can cani bear-me. let's havellook bear with me. let's have a look at these rate rises at these interest rate rises that seen . so that goes

that we've seen. so that goes all the way back to 2017. interest rates. well below 0.5 of 1. they stayed ultra low throughout 1890, then into lockdown. they went all the way down to 0.1. so between 2017 and 2020, you can see their rates were ultra low and it's those five year, three year and two year fixes which are now expiring. they were made during that ultra low period from late 2021, early 2022 onwards, 12 successive interest rate rises. you see see that staircase all the way up to 4.5. and now we're expected 4.75% on thursday , or expected 4.75% on thursday, or even 5% if the wednesday inflation number is particularly chunky. what does that then mean for mortgage rates? we can then push on to the next graphic and you can see back in june 2021, the average two year fixed rate mortgage on an average loan to value on the average home in the uk, 1.91. just to interrupt you one second, just to remind us

that was when there was also a stamp duty holiday. that was also when there was a stamp duty holiday. people were overstretching themselves a little getting little bit and getting enthusiast about buying. indeed. the stamp duty indeed. but also the stamp duty beiiaav— indeed. but also the stamp duty beiiaav-busbei— indeed. but also the stamp duty holiday pushed house holiday itself pushed up house prises— holiday itself pushed up house prices-sellers- holiday itself pushed up house prices sellers knew that prices because sellers knew that beebie— prices because sellers knew that beebie-a— prices because sellers knew that beebie-a-in- prices because sellers knew that beebie-a-in ibel people had a bit more in the iamb— people had a bit more in the rank-inev- people had a bit more in the tank they weren't tank because they weren't seiiing— tank because they weren't seiiing-ibev- tank because they weren't. selling _they weren't selling stamp. they weren't having to pay stamp duty. that's why these stamp duty holidays in many are counterproductive. many ways are counterproductive. so 1.91 june 21st, there . bev so 1.91 in june 21st, there. bev february 20th, 23 5.07. on the average two year fixed rate mortgage. now now 6.01. these are the average numbers. so you're coming off like 1 or 2 or 3% mortgage if you have a five, 3% mortgage if you have a five, 3 or 1 year fix because the rates from 2017 to 2020 and you're going from one, 2 or 3% to 6% and your interest payments are doubling. and in terms of the are doubling. and in terms of ibe aveaeg— riiit; cit». “q and in terms of the average mortgage, what is ibai— the average mortgage, what is ibai geing— the average mortgage, what is ibai geing ie— the average mortgage, what is ibai geing re ge— the average mortgage, what is that going to go up from and to. weir.— that going to go up from and to. vieii. funnvr— that going to go up from and to. vieii, iunnv. vau— that going to go up from and to. well, funny, you say— that going to go up from and to. well, funny, you say that,- well, funny, you say that, andrew, because i've got another slide. i thought might have. slide. i thought you might have. and we are. so this is the and here we are. so this is the mortgage the average

mortgage squeeze. the average mortgage squeeze. the average mortgage payment average mortgage payment on the average home is going up as people come off fixed rates from £759 to 956 against. these are averages. so there'll be many people in there who've got massive equity in their house. yeah, if you're at their house. yeah, if you're at the kind of, you know, early stages in your life, you've got, you know, maybe you've young you know, maybe you've got young children, had to children, then you've had to stretch a bit to a stretch yourself a bit to get a family home. your increases are going a lot, lot higher. going to be a lot, lot higher. and the slide went and just before the slide went off i added up those off there, i added up those incremental mortgage increases per month on average . as you per month on average. as you come those rates , an come off those fixed rates, an extra and a half grand extra two and a half grand a year after tax for anyone that is big money. they did furlough. they— is big money. they did furlough. ibev iii— is big money. they did furlough. ibev iii abi— is big money. they did furlough. they did all sorts— is big money. they did furlough. they did all sorts of— g h�*iifii�*iiilg they did furlough. they did all sorts of schemes to bein— they did all sorts of schemes to mm beebie— they did all sorts of schemes to help people during the pandemic. ibev-re— help people during the pandemic. ibev-re nei— help people during the pandemic. ibev-re nei geing— help people during the pandemic. they're not going to help any iamiiies— they're not going to help any families struggling with their mengages— families struggling with their mengages er— families struggling with their mortgages or families struggling with mortgages or families struggling nib-renn— mortgages or families struggling with-rent,-they?- mortgages or families struggling with-rent,-they? - mortgages or families struggling with-rent,-they? i- with their rent, are they? i ieii— with their rent, are they? i ien-unai— with their rent, are they? i tell-whatlthink- with their rent, are they? i tell-whatlthink is- with their rent, are they? i tell what think is going tell you what i think is going to go on. and been to happen. go on. and i've been reading about what reading about this. what happened 70s when there happened in the 70s when there were crises. what i were big mortgage crises. what i remember from the 80s when there were mortgage crises and by were big mortgage crises and by the say, oh,

the way, people say, oh, interest were 15% in interest rates were 15% back in the 80s. kids these days, the 80s. the kids these days, they many avocado they eat too many avocado sandwiches. no, that's not sandwiches. no no, that's not right the kids these right because the kids these days much higher debts days have much higher debts because houses have been so because the houses have been so much expense yeah, but much more expense lviv yeah, but what's in the is what's happened in the past is rather than massively upping your payment each month, mortgage companies to avoid eviction say, i'll tell you what we'll do. bev you've got 25 year mortgage. make it a 35 year mortgage. make it a 35 year mortgage and we can keep your payments roughly where they are . and when rates come . okay. and then when rates come down again, we can take your mortgage back to 25 years. that's that you can that's one thing that you can do. do is move do. what you can also do is move from a repayment mortgage to an interest only mortgage. so for a year or two, you're not paying off the principal loan, you're just paying the interest. i think what we'll also see, we'll see a return to housing practises maybe that seem a bit old fashioned. a bit. mr rigsby and ms jones and rising damp lodgers, i think people will start taking in lodgers. but i think in the 90s and- start taking in lodgers. but i think in the 90s and i- “g “ 33 but i think in the 90s and i think if

i think in the 90s and i think if i was— think in the 90s and i think if i was revising— think in the 90s and i think if i was revising rishi sunak now, i was revising rishi sunak now, i guess— i was revising rishi sunak now, i guess inan— i was revising rishi sunak now, i guess that, you— i was revising rishi sunak now, i guess that, you know, that sbib— i guess that, you know, that sbib bas— i guess that, you know, that ship has sailed— i guess that, you know, that ship has sailed his choice . i guess that, you know, that ship has sailed his choice. �*" ship has sailed his choice. if i advising— ship has sailed his choice. if i was advising rishi _ ship has sailed his choice. if i was advising rishi sunak now, i'd be saying if people taken a lodger, you don't pay tax on that, about it. just give that, forget about it. just give people i've got people the incentive. i've got to take people in, earn little to take people in, earn a little bit of extra money. but look, there a house price crash there is a house price crash yet. i do think house prices will correct a bit. which younger people will be happy about. maybe they've got a chance the housing chance to get on the housing ladder , but there's a ladder, but there's a fundamental supply of fundamental lack of supply of homes our country. so i don't homes in our country. so i don't see massive reduction in house see a massive reduction in house prices, but i do see a lot of pain for particularly younger couples who've taken out a mortgage are now coming off those fixed rate deals, having to remortgage at a much higher rate. and that pain will dominate politics for the next 2 to 3 years, dominating people's lives. liam, thank you so much. nigni.— lives. liam, thank you so much. nigni. egg— lives. liam, thank you so much. nigni. siiii ie— lives. liam, thank you so much. right. still to come,— t liam, thank you so much. right. still to come, we're going— right. still to come, we're geing ie— right. still to come, we're geing be be— right. still to come, we're going to be joined by ellie cesieiie— going to be joined by ellie costello to— going to be joined by ellie costello to find— going to be joined by ellie costello to find out what what to costello to find out what what re evbeei— costello to find out what what re evbeei in— costello to find out what what to expect in this— costello to find out what what to expect in this year's royal asser— to expect in this year's royal aseei berse— to expect in this year's royal ascot horse race.— to expect in this year's royal ascot horse race. that's after veur— ascot horse race. that's after veur memm-gs— ascot horse race. that's after your morning's news with tatiana

. beib. — your morning's news with tatiana . beib. inani— your morning's news with tatiana . beth. thank you— your morning's news with tatiana . beth. thank you very- your morning's news with tatiana . beth. rrtflr “rt“ your morning's news with tatiana . beth. “rt“ i“r: . beth. thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom five people on board are missing, submerged rebel tourist vessel to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic. have approximately two days of oxygen left . and rescue days of oxygen left. and rescue teams continue to search for a british billionaire who is believed to be on board, as well as a father and son. shahzada dawood and suleiman has been confirmed . captain hamish confirmed. captain hamish harding, a pilot who owns an aviation company , wrote on aviation company, wrote on social media, saying he would be taking part in the dive . taking part in the dive. yesterday, the coastguard lost contact with the vessel around one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to the titanic site. oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the situation is critical. they're in a very aiiiieuii— critical. they're in a very difficult situation - if.” e rti they're in a very difficult situation here. ibev-re— difficult situation here. they're sitting in four kilometres,- they're sitting in four kilometres, 13,000ft of water. ibai-s— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. ibai-s ibe — kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit— kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit of the sub's eababiiiiv— that's the limit of the sub's capability anyway , they're in a capability anyway, they're in a

verv— capability anyway, they're in a very eeen— capability anyway, they're in a very deep bari— capability anyway, they're in a very deep ban ei— capability anyway, they're in a very deep part of the ocean and ibev-re— very deep part of the ocean and ibev-re a— very deep part of the ocean and ibev-re a ieng— very deep part of the ocean and they're a long way— very deep part of the ocean and they're a long way from the seasi— they're a long way from the eeasi as— they're a long way from the coast as well. _ they're a long way from the coast as well. so- they're a long way from the coast as well. so getting any sen— coast as well. so getting any sen ei— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue— coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue attempt to them is geing— sort of rescue attempt to them is geing ie— sort of rescue attempt to them is geing re babe— sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time. and there are is going to take time. and there verv— is going to take time. and there verv ien— is going to take time. and there are very few vessels that are eababie— are very few vessels that are eababie ei— are very few vessels that are capable of going— are very few vessels that are capable of going to those sorts of capable of going to those sorts ei iebibs— capable of going to those sorts ei aebibs as— capable of going to those sorts of depths as mps— capable of going to those sorts of depths as mps have voted to abbreve— of depths as mps have voted to abbreve ine— of depths as mps have voted to approve the report— of depths as mps have voted to approve the report , which found approve the report, which found beris— approve the report, which found boris johnson— approve the report, which found boris johnson deliberately misrea— boris johnson deliberately misled parliament over lockdown babies— misled parliament over lockdown banies nibb— misled parliament over lockdown banies viib a— misled parliament over lockdown parties with a majority of 347. ine— parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions _ parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned- parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned against the former prime minister include banning him from having a path to access parliament. the liberal democrats have accused the prime minister, rishi sunak, of being too weak to even turn up to the vote . over 6 million up to the vote. over 6 million people with disabilities will receive a one off cost of living payment of £150 from today. the government says the payments part of a £100 billion support package for vulnerable households, those who are eligible will receive the payment automatically and food inflation has dropped to its lowest this year, but records show it's at its highest it's beenin

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people to start the people trying to start dodi the titanic. we've been talking to tim author. titanic. we've been talking to tim been author. titanic. we've been talking to tim been studying author. titanic. we've been talking to tim been studying the uthor. titanic. we've been talking to tim been studying the titanic he's been studying the titanic for have to ask him for 25 years. i have to ask him about the enduring fascination about the enduring fascination about titanic and the about the titanic and the terrible irony. if this submersive is somehow got caught up in the wreckage of the titanic , they've got 48 hours titanic, they've got 48 hours more oxygen to go , but so far, more oxygen to go, but so far, no sign it's going to be it's apparently the biggest deep sea rescue operation in history. i still find it remarkable they went off without any rescue pod. yeah i'm fascinated by the psychology of people that want to do these sort of dangerous expeditions and what motivates them. and to take your 19 year old board. yeah we're old son on board. yeah we're going to be talking about that. and we're also going to have uigei— and we're also going to have uigei ueisen— and we're also going to have nigel nelson and tony buxton in the nigel nelson and tony buxton in ibe siuiie— nigel nelson and tony buxton in the studio. we've— nigel nelson and tony buxton in the studio. we've got some big sieries— the studio. we've got some big stories-through- the studio. we've got some big stories through this stories to go through this memng— stories to go through this morning, about morning, including the one about the morning, including the one about ibe-ibai— morning, including the one about ibe-ibai san— morning, including the one about the that can identify as the kids that can identify as wherever they— the kids that can identify as wherever they want in the classroom. everyone has to classroom. and everyone has to agree—cais— classroom. and everyone has to agree—cars bui- classroom. and everyone has to agree cats but before classroom. and everyone has to agrebreak, cats but before classroom. and everyone has to agrebreak, we cats but before classroom. and everyone has to agrebreak, we were its but before classroom. and everyone has to agrebreak, we were talkingbefore classroom. and everyone has to agrebreak, we were talking withe the break, we were talking with iiam— the break, we were talking with iiam-abeui— the break, we were talking with liam - about the - liam halligan about the se—eaiiea— liam halligan about the so—called loop. so so—called economic doom loop. so were-sneak— so—called economic doom loop. so ve-re-sbeab ne- we're going to speak now to marbeiing—

we're going to speak now to marketing director polly arrowsmith, _ marketing director polly arrowsmith, in arrowsmith, who's worked in mengages— arrowsmith, who's worked in mengageslibe- arrowsmith, who's worked in mortgages the halifax. good mortgages for the halifax. good memng— mortgages for the halifax. good merning, rein.— mortgages for the halifax. good morning, polly. we just wanted to morning, polly. we just wanted ie-iiiiie— morning, polly. we just wanted ie-iiiiie bir— morning, polly. we just wanted to-little bit more- morning, polly. we just wanted to little bit more meat on to put a little bit more meat on the to put a little bit more meat on ibe benes— to put a little bit more meat on the bones-this— to put a little bit more meat on the bones this story for the bones of this story for beebie— the bones of this story for beebie vbe— the bones of this story for people who are- the bones of this story for people who are watching, because it's people who are watching, because ii-s-siressiui— people who are watching, because it's- stressful when - it's incredibly stressful when you— it's incredibly stressful when - veu—bavmenis you see your mortgage payments going— you see your mortgage payments geing—every- you see your mortgage payments going every month. you see your mortgage payments goingwould every month. you see your mortgage payments goingwould yourevery month. you see your mortgage payments goingwould your advicetonth. you see your mortgage payments goingwould your advice be th. you see your mortgage payments goingwould your advice be to what would your advice be to beebie— what would your advice be to beebie ai— what would your advice be to beebie ai ine— what would your advice be to people at the moment who are siruggiing— people at the moment who are siruggiing viab— people at the moment who are struggling with their mortgages 7 struggling with their mortgages i irieriiise— struggling with their mortgages ? prioritise-mortgage- struggling with their mortgages ? prioritise your mortgage and if you can refix do that now because i think interest rates are going to go up. um, and budget mean budget very, very carefully . so your priority carefully. so your priority ought to be your mortgage in terms of other utilities, try and get a deal with utility companies. if you can, and see if you can get things like interest frozen. so just try to cut your costs and basically green and bear bear the cost increase. how receptive are mengage— t how receptive are mortgage companies in your eberienee— mortgage companies in your eberienee ie— mortgage companies in your experience to people who are going— experience to people who are geing ie— experience to people who are geing be be— experience to people who are going to be getting into difficulties— going to be getting into difficulties and have perhaps aireaav— difficulties and have perhaps aireaav gei— difficulties and have perhaps already got into— difficulties and have perhaps already got into difficulties ? already got into difficulties? uh already got into difficulties? gg .— already got into difficulties? ub . ibev-re— already got into difficulties? ub . maybe a— already got into difficulties? uh , they're a lot— already got into difficulties? uh , they're a lot more-

already got into difficulties? uh, they're a lot more receptive than they used to be. so you need to be in contact- uri“ t. so you need to be in contact with “ii“ t. so you need to be in contact with them siraigbi— need to be in contact with them siraigbr avav. — need to be in contact with them straight away. that's the thing ibai-s— straight away. that's the thing ibai-s a— straight away. that's the thing ibai-s a bev— straight away. that's the thing that's a key thing. so they do bave— that's a key thing. so they do bave a— that's a key thing. so they do have a level— that's a key thing. so they do have a level of— that's a key thing. so they do have a level of flexibility . if have a level of flexibility. if veuve— have a level of flexibility. if veuve gei— have a level of flexibility. if veuve gei anv— have a level of flexibility. if you've got any mental health , ae— you've got any mental health issues , do inform the bank. issues, do inform the bank. ibere— issues, do inform the bank. ibere are— issues, do inform the bank. there are actual- issues, do inform the bank. there are actual forms that you iii— there are actual forms that you iiii in— there are actual forms that you can fill in and— there are actual forms that you can fill in and then you provide ibai— can fill in and then you provide ibai ie— can fill in and then you provide ibai re ibe— can fill in and then you provide that to the bank— can fill in and then you provide that to the bank itself and try ana— that to the bank itself and try and busi— that to the bank itself and try and iusi seme— that to the bank itself and try and just come to— that to the bank itself and try and just come to a deal. so the versi— and just come to a deal. so the versi ining— and just come to a deal. so the worst thing that— and just come to a deal. so the worst thing that you can do is ignere— worst thing that you can do is ignere ibe— worst thing that you can do is ignore the issue— worst thing that you can do is ignore the issue because then the ignore the issue because then ibe bamb— ignore the issue because then the bank will— ignore the issue because then the bank will just go through a nermai— the bank will just go through a normal process— the bank will just go through a normal process and eventually ibev-ii— normal process and eventually ibev-ii babe— normal process and eventually they'll take the _ normal process and eventually they'll take the case into semi,— they'll take the case into court, came to- they'll take the case into court, came to court, and ibev-ii— court, came to court, and menu gei— court, came to court, and menu gei a— court, came to court, and they'll get a possession order. ana— they'll get a possession order. ana iben— they'll get a possession order. ana iben veu— they'll get a possession order. and then, you know, this takes maybe— and then, you know, this takes mavbe ana— and then, you know, this takes maybe and then— and then, you know, this takes maybe and then they'll get baiiiiis— maybe and then they'll get bailiffs appointment at that bani.— bailiffs appointment at that beiniliusi— bailiffs appointment at that beiniliusi be— bailiffs appointment at that point. just be in constant point. so just be in constant communication— point. so just be in constant communication with your bank. ana— communication with your bank. and i— communication with your bank. and i guess— communication with your bank. and i guess polly— communication with your bank. and i guess polly , like banks and i guess polly, like banks ien-i— and i guess polly, like banks don't actually— and i guess polly, like banks don't actually want to have lots of repossessions— don't actually want to have lots of repossessions do they ? “rtg of repossessions do they? they ien-i— of repossessions do they? they ien-i vani— of repossessions do they? they ien-i vani ie— of repossessions do they? they don't want to suddenly find said that they are in possession of lots of houses. it's complicated for the banks. as much as we might think. that's a good outcome, i don't think that is necessarily the banks want. necessarily what the banks want. so with people as so they will work with people as hard possible, they, to

hard as possible, won't they, to come sort of resolution? come to some sort of resolution? yes, they will do. and there's all yes, they will do. and there's aii sens— yes, they will do. and there's aii sens ei— yes, they will do. and there's all sorts of legal— i“/rt;~ir tt r:rtr and there's all sorts of legal techniques inab— all sorts of legal techniques ibai veu— all sorts of legal techniques ibai veu san— all sorts of legal techniques that you can use— all sorts of legal techniques that you can use and probably bevena— that you can use and probably bevena ibe— that you can use and probably beyond the scope— that you can use and probably beyond the scope of the chat baving— beyond the scope of the chat we're having now— beyond the scope of the chat we're having now . so but no we're having now. so but no banks— we're having now. so but no banbs ,— we're having now. so but no banbs , ii-s— we're having now. so but no banbs , is a— we're having now. so but no banks , it's a very last resort banks, it's a very last resort to banks, it's a very last resort re eebssess— banks, it's a very last resort re eebssess .— banks, it's a very last resort to repossess . so— banks, it's a very last resort to repossess . so they'd rather to repossess. so they'd rather inab— to repossess. so they'd rather ibai veu— to repossess. so they'd rather ibai veu ae— to repossess. so they'd rather that you do part— to repossess. so they'd rather that you do part payments, even if that you do part payments, even ii is— that you do part payments, even ii is veu— that you do part payments, even if it's, you know,— that you do part payments, even if it's, you know, you can also in— if it's, you know, you can also in ana— if it's, you know, you can also try and negotiate— if it's, you know, you can also try and negotiate from repayment mengage— try and negotiate from repayment mengage ie— try and negotiate from repayment mortgage to interest only. banks are mortgage to interest only. banks a iei— mortgage to interest only. banks a iei mere— mortgage to interest only. banks are a lot more flexible than inev— are a lot more flexible than ibev usen— are a lot more flexible than ibev usea ie— are a lot more flexible than they used to be. _ are a lot more flexible than they used to be. okay good. ibai-s— they used to be. okay good. ibai-s geing— they used to be. okay good. ibai-s geing ie— they used to be. okay good. that's going to be— they used to be. okay good. that's going to be good- they used to be. okay good. that's going to be good news for a lot of people. i like liam naiiigan-s— a lot of people. i like liam halligan's idea— a lot of people. i like liam halligan's idea that- i like liam halligan's idea that you extend veur— halligan's idea that you extend veur mengage— halligan's idea that you extend veur mengage bv— halligan's idea that you extend your mortgage by ten years. bean— your mortgage by ten years. veab i— your mortgage by ten years. yeah, i think— your mortgage by ten years. yeah, i think they'll probably be enen— yeah, i think they'll probably be eben ii— yeah, i think they'll probably be open if you're young. if veure— be open if you're young. if veure in— be open if you're young. if you're in-20s- be open if you're young. if you're in-20s or- be open if you're young. if you're in 20s or 30s or you're in your 20s or 30s or ees- — you're in your 20s or 30s or ees- ibanbs— you're in your 20s or 30s or 40s. thanks, polly. that's marbeiing— 40s. thanks, polly. that's marketing director polly arrowsmith. _ marketing director polly arrowsmith. we're going arrowsmith. now we're going to asser— ascot now because as ellie cesieiie— ascot now because as elliei costello—rather ascot now because as ellie. costello—rather a costello is there with rather a remarbabie— costello is there with rather a remarkable hat— costello is there with rather a remarkable hat .— costello is there with rather a remarkable hat . i'm glad that remarkable hat. i'm glad that you— remarkable hat. i'm glad that veu ibinb— remarkable hat. i'm glad that veu ibinb ii-s— remarkable hat. i'm glad that you think it's a— remarkable hat. i'm glad that you think it's a remarkable hat beause— you think it's a remarkable hat because eamonn_ you think it's a remarkable hat because eamonn holmes was being— because eamonn holmes was ieiiing me— because eamonn holmes was telling me earlier it looked iike— telling me earlier it looked bike a— telling me earlier it looked bike a beari— telling me earlier it looked like a load of— telling me earlier it looked like a load of flies around my beai. — like a load of flies around my beai. ne— like a load of flies around my head. he said— like a load of flies around my head. he said that- like a load of flies around my head. r: head. he said that these look like blue bottles. so i'm glad that think nice, but.

that you think it's nice, but. yes. yes yeah. well, yes. welcome. yes yeah. well, thank you. thank you. i was enjoying my hat until that. but anyway, we're at royal ascot here 2023. the doors have literally just opened at 1030. and you'll be glad to know as well, the sun has come out. let me just take you around because it is just spectacular, isn't it? you start to see people coming in now, but this is where race singh, royals and fashion it all meets in this spectacular event for the next five days. and lucia, we've got camerawoman lucy with us. lucy, come with me. look this fashion coming me. look at this fashion coming through. now, the women, i mean, this lady in pink. this lady here in pink. absolutely wonderful. we've got a over in blue. this a lady over there in blue. this lady in pink fantastic. i lady in pink looks fantastic. i mean, that's what here for. mean, that's what i'm here for. i'm here the fashion. but i'm here for the fashion. but many, people here for the many, many people here for the horses, of course . and to catch horses, of course. and to catch a glimpse of our royal family. and on that note , let me show and on that note, let me show you this program because for the first in over 70 years, first time in over 70 years, we've got a new cypher on the front of the royal ascot program .look front of the royal ascot program . look at that. the king and

queen. that is their joint cypher on the front page. and if we take a look inside , sorry, we take a look inside, sorry, i don't have enough hands to show you everything. take a look inside. i think this is so interesting. it's a message from king charles iii and camilla and in it, it says that they are going to name a race on saturday after queen elizabeth ii the late queen. and it will be called queen elizabeth ii juba lee stakes . they say it's the lee stakes. they say it's the most appropriate way to mark her lifelong interest in this magnificent event. this is, of course , a place where she was course, a place where she was seen most years of her life. of those 70 years. she loved horse racing so very much. and also, they are putting their own stamp on royal ascot. they talk about the village enclosure here at ascot being net carbon zero this yeah ascot being net carbon zero this year. and they want the racecourse to make renewed efforts to minimise waste . so efforts to minimise waste. so you can see that. king charles and queen camilla, they will be putting their own stamp on royal

ascot, which is going to be really, really interesting. time to see what changes they make. and now the wind is taking my hat off. whoa yes. thank you very much , sir. thank you. i can very much, sir. thank you. i can see that he's telling me i've dropped my race card , but yeah, dropped my race card, but yeah, she'd fantastic she'd be a fantastic day. frankie set to frankie dettori. he's set to retire, so we're going to see him racing this week. that's going to be fantastic . and of going to be fantastic. and of course, hoping to capture a glimpse of the king and queen at the procession around the royal procession at around 2 pm. lots and to look pm. so lots and lots to look forward you look forward to. ellie, you look absolutely beautiful . well, i'm absolutely beautiful. well, i'm so jealous that— absolutely beautiful. well, i'm so jealous that you're- well, i'm so jealous that you're there baving— so jealous that you're there baving a— so jealous that you're there having a lovely— so jealous that you're there having a lovely day. thank you so having a lovely day. thank you se mueb— having a lovely day. thank you so much. we'll— having a lovely day. thank you so much. we'll talk to you rarer.— so much. we'll talk to you babe. nave— so much. we'll talk to you later. have a— so much. we'll talk to you later. have a great time. this a iab— later. have a great time. this a iab bare— later. have a great time. this a iab ban on— later. have a great time. this a fab hat? oh, she— later. have a great time. this a fab hat? oh, she looks amazing busi— fab hat? oh, she looks amazing iusi ibinbing— fab hat? oh, she looks amazing just thinking talking of just thinking about talking of beauiiiui— just thinking about talking of beautiful—oh, l just thinking about talking of- beautiful_oh, tanya beautiful women. yeah oh, tanya buxien-s— beautiful women. yeah oh, tanya buxien-s vviib— beautiful women. yeah oh, tanya buxton's with us. _ beautiful women. yeah oh, tanya buxton's with us. less hat and on— buxton's with us. less hat and bviv nei— buxton's with us. less hat and kyiv not beautiful— buxton's with us. less hat and kyiv not beautiful women. \r gt; kyiv not beautiful women. nigel basem— kyiv not beautiful women. nigel nelson. although you could declare yourself as a beautiful woman these days. yeah, i think we're on to that. we are. we're coming on to that. we are. we are. just a moment.- “3 tr“ we are. we are. just a moment. let's sian. — we are. just a moment. let's sian. risi— we are. just a moment. let's start. first of— we are. just a moment. let's start. first of all,- we are. just a moment. let's start. g start. first of all, though, guys, talking about this story. it's a front page of the paper we are watching the news as it

comes the titanic, the comes in about the titanic, the tourists there. tourists who've gone there. tonya see this and the tonya to see this boat and the boat has gone missing. it's a very sort of well, it's clearly a very tense experience , isn't a very tense experience, isn't it, everybody involved. it's it, for everybody involved. it's a horrific experience. and the thing as a horrific experience. and the thing.asldiver,_ a horrific experience. and the thing-asldiver, i- a horrific experience. and the thing i as. diver, i know. thing is, as a diver, i know inan— thing is, as a diver, i know man-knew,— thing is, as a diver, i know that, know, when it comes to that, you know, when it comes to giving,— that, you know, when it comes to giving, veu— that, you know, when it comes to giving, veu are— that, you know, when it comes to diving, you are completely bebeiaen— diving, you are completely beholden to— diving, you are completely beholden to the equipment. and it beholden to the equipment. and ii—ibis— beholden to the equipment. and ii—ibis asni- beholden to the equipment. and it_this wasn't put. it sounds like this wasn't put iegeiber— it sounds like this wasn't put iegeiber-ii- it sounds like this wasn't put together it sounds together very well. it sounds iike— together very well. it sounds bike is— together very well. it sounds bike is nei— together very well. it sounds like it's not been— together very well. it sounds like it's not been thought out. viben— like it's not been thought out. viben veu— like it's not been thought out. viben veu-ai— like it's not been thought out. when you -at the - like it's not been thought out. when you at the pictures, when you look at the pictures, it when you look at the pictures, ii-verv— when you look at the pictures, ii-verv bina— when you look at the pictures, it-very kind .tent- when you look at the pictures, it very kind tent ish it looks very kind of tent ish ana— it looks very kind of tent ish and ramshackle.— it looks very kind of tent ish and ramshackle. and to control it and ramshackle. and to control ii ana— and ramshackle. and to control ii and ibev-re— and ramshackle. and to control it and they're using an obstruction— it and they're using an obstruction pipes for the baiiasi— obstruction pipes for the ballast. doesn't doesn't ballast. it doesn't it doesn't ieei— ballast. it doesn't it doesn't ieei iike— ballast. it doesn't it doesn't feel like it's— ballast. it doesn't it doesn't feel like it's been done with any— feel like it's been done with any rbeugbi. — feel like it's been done with any thought. and you go any thought. and when you go newn— any thought. and when you go ievvnlibese— any thought. and when you go down .those type— any thought. and when you go down those type of levels, any thought. and when you go dovtcompression'pe of levels, any thought. and when you go dovtcompression is of levels, any thought. and when you go dovtcompression is in: levels, any thought. and when you go dovtcompression is in incredible the compression is in incredible ani— the compression is in incredible and unbelievable— the compression is in incredible and unbelievable .— the compression is in incredible and unbelievable . but also that and unbelievable. but also that my bean— and unbelievable. but also that my bean gees— and unbelievable. but also that my heart goes out. there's a ibere-s— my heart goes out. there's a ibere-s a— my heart goes out. there's a there's a teenage— my heart goes out. there's a there's a teenage boy on there. veab. — there's a teenage boy on there. veab. n— there's a teenage boy on there. veab. a ie— there's a teenage boy on there. veab. a 19 year— there's a teenage boy on there. yeah. a 19 year old- there's a teenage boy on there. yeah. . �*ieii : g there's a teenage boy on there. yeah. . �*ieii rtrr: g yeah. a 19 year old gone on with his dad. he's a billionaire. i mean, would it be then do you then look at these people and think, is it a curse to be a billionaire ? i mean, as that billionaire? i mean, as that mothers sitting there watching that thinking to billionaires out on board.

out of five on board. unbelievable . and nigel, out of five on board. - unbelievable . and nigel, it's a unbelievable. and nigel, it's a verv— unbelievable. and nigel, it's a very aiiiieuii— unbelievable. and nigel, it's a very difficult i— unbelievable. and nigel, it's a very difficult i mean, obviously you— very difficult i mean, obviously veu vani— very difficult i mean, obviously veu vani ibem— very difficult i mean, obviously you want them to— very difficult i mean, obviously you want them to be rescued, but inev— you want them to be rescued, but ibev ieei— you want them to be rescued, but ibev ieeb a— you want them to be rescued, but ibev ieeb a buge— you want them to be rescued, but they took a huge risk. yeah, i ibinb— they took a huge risk. yeah, i ibinb ibai-s— they took a huge risk. yeah, i think that's right. “ ii“r: think that's right. i mean and abse— think that's right. i mean and arse-verv— think that's right. i mean and also very difficult to find also it's very difficult to find them. they're 450 miles off the off newfoundland you off the newfoundland coast. you know, they could be 12,000ft down. and certainly down. and i mean, certainly i would never go near a mini sub. i had a very near miss with one. right. and i wouldn't be here if things if things gone wrong. things if things had gone wrong. but doing in the but i was doing a story in the nonh but i was doing a story in the north on an oil rig and they north sea on an oil rig and they ianed north sea on an oil rig and they invited me to go down to the mini sub. at the last minute. they said, better come the they said, better come on the next next because it's a bit next next one because it's a bit complicated. and sub complicated. and when the sub came up, two divers were came up, the two divers were dead. wow. so was sort dead. oh, wow. so he was sort of, know, what had happened. of, you know, what had happened. you got caught up in you know, they got caught up in eabies— you know, they got caught up in some cables underneath the unaerneaib— some cables underneath the underneath the— some cables underneath the underneath the water. . “r: underneath the water. and as inev— underneath the water. and as ibev vvere— underneath the water. and as they were being hauled up, it was the bends that got and i suspect this this submersible went no link, no winch went down with no link, no winch to pull it up because look at the because the depth. the depth, because of the depth. yes. cables could caught yes. the cables could get caught in-eurrenis— yes. the cables could get caught in-currents or— yes. the cables could get caught in-currents or even- yes. the cables could get caught in currents or even get in the currents or even get eaugbi— in the currents or even get caught-titanic. - in the currents or even get caught-titanic. i

caught in the titanic. yeah. i mean-nigni- caught in the titanic. yeah. i mean, might have happened, mean, what might have happened, vbaiever— mean, what might have happened, vbaiever-i— mean, what might have happened, whatever-i mean,— mean, what might have happened, whatever i mean, the fact whatever it is, i mean, the fact ibai— whatever it is, i mean, the fact ibai inev— whatever it is, i mean, the fact ibai ibev — whatever it is, i mean, the fact that they were spending so much menev— that they were spending so much menev iei— that they were spending so much menev ier ibis— that they were spending so much money for this-of- that they were spending so much money for this of thrill, money for this kind of thrill, i ii-s— money for this kind of thrill, i mean, it's £195,000 a person to do mean, it's £195,000 a person to ie-vbeie— mean, it's £195,000 a person to do-whole voyage- mean, it's £195,000 a person to do whole voyage was eight do this whole voyage was eight beurs— do this whole voyage was eight beurs irem — do this whole voyage was eight hours from beginning to end. reab— hours from beginning to end. bean-sienn— hours from beginning to end. yeah, down hours hours from beginning to end. - yeah,-down-hours back yeah, i was down two hours back ana— yeah, i was down two hours back analiev— yeah, i was down two hours back analiev beurs— yeah, i was down two hours back and few hours above. yeah. and a few hours above. yeah. anu— and a few hours above. yeah. and as— and a few hours above. yeah. and as ienva— and a few hours above. yeah. and as tonya says,— and a few hours above. yeah. and as tonya says, there- and a few hours above. yeah. and as tonya says, there are some question marks over whether, the submarine whether, in fact, the submarine was was worthy. but was up to it. it was worthy. but either way, i mean, it's a huge tragedy. but let's hope that there's ending. yeah, there's a happy ending. yeah, i hadnt there's a happy ending. yeah, i hadn't a nuclear hadn't realised that a nuclear submarine state of the art can only go 300m deep. yeah. this is this only go 300m deep. yeah. this is ibis inv— only go 300m deep. yeah. this is this tiny little _ only go 300m deep. yeah. this is this tiny little thing— only go 300m deep. yeah. this is this tiny little thing has- 301500“ : yeah. this is this tiny little thing has gone 12, ine— this tiny little thing has gone 12, ive ane— this tiny little thing has gone 12, ive and a— this tiny little thing has gone 12, two and a half miles. i mean , it 12, two and a half miles. i mean , ii ieiies— 12, two and a half miles. i mean , it defies logic.— 12, two and a half miles. i mean , it defies logic. _ 12, two and a half miles. i mean , it defies logic. it— 12, two and a half miles. i mean , it defies logic. e : , it defies logic. it defies insanity . it's battery driven insanity. it's battery driven and, and i'm not sure what the backups were on it. the reality is here is however much we want a happy ending, that's just not going be the case. if you if going to be the case. if you if you've listening to any of you've been listening to any of the experts, they've all been saying that it's what we should be for is at least be hoping for is to at least find can you imagine that? find them. can you imagine that? now in. they're now they are locked in. they're locked in, and they— now they are locked in. they're locked in, and they can- \rrtrrn ii”rt; t: “ they're locked in, and they can only be ibev-re— locked in, and they can only be ibev-re beekee— locked in, and they can only be they're locked in— locked in, and they can only be they're locked in to be released

by an— they're locked in to be released by an enema— they're locked in to be released by an external crew. no button they're locked in to be released by release.rnal crew. no button they're locked in to be released by release. al crew. no button they're locked in to be released by release. fitterew. no button they're locked in to be released by release. no button they're locked in to be released by release. quirciulloi'i they're locked in to be released by release. �*":ton to release. but you just if they're down at the bottom, then they're down at the bottom, then the ridiculous. and the pressure is ridiculous. and if there's been i there if there's been i mean, there are so many things that go are so many things that can go wrong. it's mind boggling wrong. i just it's mind boggling to me because i'm a diver. so i dive and i've done night dives and i've gone reasonably deep and i've gone reasonably deep and how precarious, and i know how precarious, precarious it is to logically think and work this out and think and work this out and think it's to okay do it. what were they thinking? i just it should never been allowed. and that company needs to be looked at very carefully. i don't think they allowed to do they should be allowed to do anything. we so anything. why are we so fascinated— anything. why are we so fascinated with- anything. why are we so fascinated with a- “3 why are we so fascinated with a with an ocean iaaen— fascinated with a with an ocean iaaen-ibis— fascinated with a with an ocean iaaen-ibis is— fascinated with a with an ocean laden _this is a - fascinated with a with an ocean laden this is a grave laden grave? this is a grave bviv. — laden grave? this is a grave bviv. ii— laden grave? this is a grave bviv. ii is.— laden grave? this is a grave kyiv. it is. but— laden grave? this is a grave kyiv. it is. but i- laden grave? this is a grave kyiv. e kyiv. it is. but i think the titanic is one of those things we've with, we've always grown up with, haven't we? and the idea of being able to see it, i mean, i'm sure it would be fantastic i'm sure it would be a fantastic thrill titanic now thrill to see the titanic now close up. but obviously not a thrill that's worth losing your life over. i'm very happy to bareb— life over. i'm very happy to watch pictures.— life over. i'm very happy to watch pictures-ifj life over. i'm very happy to- watch pictures-if you watch pictures. you know, if you ieei— watch pictures. you know, if you ieeblibis— watch pictures. you know, if you look-this, we've— watch pictures. you know, if you look this, we've got these look at this, we've got these bieiures— look at this, we've got these bieiureslibe— look at this, we've got these pictures the screen now and pictures on the screen now and verv— pictures on the screen now and very-inab— pictures on the screen now and very that somebody has very happy that somebody has seni— very happy that somebody has semi—ie- very happy that somebody has sent—to thosei sent down a camera to those aebibs— sent down a camera to those aebibsliabe— sent down a camera to those

depths take pictures, because depths to take pictures, because i is depths to take pictures, because i-is ibere-s— depths to take pictures, because i-is there'slsort- i think this is there's a sort of voyeuristic,— i think this is there's a sort of voyeuristic, prurient kind of iaseinaiien. — of voyeuristic, prurient kind of fascination. _with- fascination. we have with it, ism-i— fascination. we have with it, isn-i iii— fascination. we have with it, isn-i iii-as- fascination. we have with it, isn't it?-as we- fascination. we have with it, isn't it? as we heard isn't it? i mean, as we heard eariier— isn't it? i mean, as we heard eariier irem— isn't it? i mean, as we heard earlier from julie— isn't it? i mean, as we heard earlier from julie cook, one of ibe— earlier from julie cook, one of the journalists,— earlier from julie cook, one of the journalists, her grandfather eien— the journalists, her grandfather died—sbe- the journalists, her grandfather died—she said,- the journalists, her grandfather. died—she said, you died on there. and she said, you knew,— died on there. and she said, you know, ibis— died on there. and she said, you know, ibis is— died on there. and she said, you know, this is effectively an unaervvaier— know, this is effectively an underwater grave, people underwater grave, 1500 people besi— underwater grave, 1500 people iesi—nnu- underwater grave, 1500 peoplei lost _and . course, lost their lives. and of course, it the thing to if you it was the class thing to if you were poor, you died. and if you were poor, you died. and if you were class rich, you were upper class and rich, you had chance of had a better chance of succeeding. ijust had a better chance of succeeding. i just don't it. succeeding. i just don't get it. i succeeding. i just don't get it. i ien-i. — succeeding. i just don't get it. i ien-i. weir.— succeeding. i just don't get it. i don't. well, hopefully we hear some good news soon, right? should on to something should we move on to something a little lighter, but nevertheless, quite nevertheless, still quite serious? about serious? tonya, this is about i think the hook was the audio that was released of a teacher being recorded telling a child off for disputing the notion that you could identify as a cat. and i think what chilled me about that story was, she said, you can't say that in this school. and i hate shutting down this debate. so what do you do when a child in the school says, i'm a a cat? or in this case, one of them is a dinosaur and one of them is a dinosaur and one of them thinks they're the moon. yes. you you put in moon. yes. you you put them in for psychological— “ i“/rt;~ir you you put them in for psychological counselling. no, for psychological counselling.

un-ibis— for psychological counselling. un-ibis is— for psychological counselling. no,-this is not- for psychological counselling. no,-this is not funny. i no, no, no. this is not funny. this is absolutely serious. this is. this is absolutely serious. this is-meanlii— this is absolutely serious. this is.-mean,.it was- this is absolutely serious. this is. mean, it was me, is. well, i mean, if it was me, i is. well, i mean, if it was me, i-vbai— is. well, i mean, if it was me, i-vvbai i— is. well, i mean, if it was me, i-vvbai i was— is. well, i mean, if it was me, i-what i was like- is. well, i mean, if it was me, i what i was like at i know what i was like at sebeei. — i know what i was like at school. yeah.— i know what i was like at school. yeah. so if this was eeming— school. yeah. so if this was coming-while- school. yeah. so if this was coming-while i- school. yeah. so if this was coming while i was at coming out while i was at sebeei. — coming out while i was at sebeei. eb— coming out while i was at school. oh my— coming out while i was at school. oh my goodness. and i veni— school. oh my goodness. and i veni ie— school. oh my goodness. and i veni re a— school. oh my goodness. and i went to a convent,— school. oh my goodness. and i went to a convent, i would have give— went to a convent, i would have give ibe— went to a convent, i would have give ibe nuns— went to a convent, i would have give me a— went to a convent, i would have give the nuns a good run around, but give the nuns a good run around, bur—bave— give the nuns a good run around, but—have smacked. give the nuns a good run around, but have smacked me but they would have smacked me viab— but they would have smacked me vim-ruin.— but they would have smacked me with-ruler.-that. with a wooden ruler. and that neura— with a wooden ruler. and that veuia bave— with a wooden ruler. and that would have been— with a wooden ruler. and that would have been the of would have been the end of it. bean— would have been the end of it. bean-neura— would have been the end of it. yeah,-would-been. would have been the end of it. yeah, would been the yeah, that would have been the ena— yeah, that would have been the ene-ii.— yeah, that would have been the end-it. somebody— yeah, that would have been the end it. somebody that end of it. somebody that serieusiv— end of it. somebody that seriously-they- end of it. somebody that seriously they are a end of it. somebody that- seriously-they are a cat seriously thinks they are a cat or identifies— seriously thinks they are a cat or identifies as— seriously thinks they are a cat or identifies as a— seriously thinks they are a cat or identifies as a cat or, you knew,— or identifies as a cat or, you know, identifies— or identifies as a cat or, you know, identifies as anything eiber—arel know, identifies as anything. other—are, they know, identifies as anything. other some-are, they know, identifies as anything other some psychological they know, identifies as anything other some psychological help, need some psychological help, you need some psychological help, veu knew,— need some psychological help, you know, check— need some psychological help, you know, check on these kids, the you know, check on these kids, ibe-ibai— you know, check on these kids, the -that-taking- you know, check on these kids, the-that-taking it- the ones that are taking it reaiiv— the ones that are taking it really seriously, check on them. are-seri— really seriously, check on them. are-self harming?- really seriously, check on them. are self harming? they are they self harming? are they being— are they self harming? are they being eiber— are they self harming? are they doing other things to themselves? deeply themselves? this is a deeply psychometr— psychology, ethical problem. and beiere—aeeebi- before you can just accept someone,-come. before you can just accept someone, come in to someone, if i if i come in to veu— someone, if i if i come in to veu ana— someone, if i if i come in to veu and i— someone, if i if i come in to you and i identify as someone vvbe— you and i identify as someone vbe is— you and i identify as someone vbe is i— you and i identify as someone who is, i don't— you and i identify as someone who is, i don't know, pin thin, im— who is, i don't know, pin thin, i-m—i— who is, i don't know, pin thin, i-m—i sien- who is, i don't know, pin thin, i'm-i stop eating. i'm a size six, i stop eating beause— i'm a size six, i stop eating because that's— i'm a size six, i stop eating because that's what i want to iieniiiv— because that's what i want to iaeniiiv as— because that's what i want to iaeniiiv i— because that's what i want to identify as. i stop— because that's what i want to identify as. i stop eating. then you— identify as. i stop eating. then you-sav— identify as. i stop eating. then you-sav-goi- you would say you've got. anerevia—gei you would say you've got- anorexia_get me anorexia and you would get me help— anorexia and you would get me help for— anorexia and you would get me help for n.— anorexia and you would get me help for it. yeah.— anorexia and you would get me help for it. yeah. these children— help for it. yeah. these children are— help for it. yeah. these children are not getting psychological help for the teacher. — psychological help for the teacher. need- psychological help for the teacher. \ d psychological help for the teacher. d psychological help for the teacher. wing psychological help for the teacher. cg c because she's going to allow it and encourage. no, the teacher is a— and encourage. no, the teacher is a disgusting— and encourage. no, the teacher is a disgusting-yeah,- e�*c c;cc. g no, the teacher is a disgusting yeah, and is a disgusting bully. yeah, and

i_t0_ is a disgusting bully. yeah, and u—to be-ml i agree with that. to be put in prison.— i agree with that. to be put in prison. i— i agree with that. to be put in prison, i wouldn't— i agree with that. to be put in prison, i wouldn't have her anywhere— prison, i wouldn't have her anywhere near— prison, i wouldn't have her anywhere near my children prison. — anywhere near my children prison. rd. — anywhere near my children prison. i'd. i'd— anywhere near my children prison. c c c prison. i'd. i'd certainly suspend her. absolutely suspended.— suspended. she was calling them _them- suspended. she was calling themi names. _them that names. she was telling them that they— names. she was telling them that they-behave — names. she was telling them that they-behave that— names. she was telling them that they behave that way. and they can't behave that way. and my_h.d- they can't behave that way. and my_h.d beenl they can't behave that way. and. rev—had been my my goodness, if that had been my d..gme.,_ my goodness, if that had been my d..gme.,.be_ my goodness, if that had been my daughterlbe ee— my goodness, if that had been my daughter,.be so-of- my goodness, if that had been my daughter, be so of her daughter, i'd be so proud of her because— daughter, i'd be so proud of her because eee— daughter, i'd be so proud of her because she stood— daughter, i'd be so proud of her because she stood tall. she did. she— because she stood tall. she did. she-ereumene.- because she stood tall. she did. she-argument. she- because she stood tall. she did. she argument. she she she had the argument. she she discussed— she had the argument. she she discussed.very_ she had the argument. she she discussed very calmly and discussed it very calmly and very— discussed it very calmly and very-n— discussed it very calmly and very-n wee- discussed it very calmly and very-it was the. very logically. it was the teacher— very logically. it was the teacher that _ very logically. it was the teacher that was getting hysterical.— teacher that was getting hysterical. yeah, did. ca" hysterical. yeah, she did. can you— hysterical. yeah, she did. can you-if— hysterical. yeah, she did. can you-if ie— hysterical. yeah, she did. can you-if it had- hysterical. yeah, she did. can you-if it had been. hysterical. yeah, she did. can you if it had been the you imagine if it had been the other way the teacher other way round? the teacher raging against other way round? the teacher ragi|gender? against other way round? the teacher ragi|gender? that's against other way round? the teacher ragi|gender? that's whatainst other way round? the teacher ragi|gender? that's what inst this gender? that's what i think.— this gender? that's what i think. she— this gender? that's what i think. she would- gc;cc;”?’ that's what i think. she would have gc;cc”?’ that's what i think. she would have been sacked— think. she would have been sacked if— think. she would have been sacked if she— think. she would have been sacked if she turned round and eeie— sacked if she turned round and see-eene— sacked if she turned round and said .can't-can't- sacked if she turned round and said can't can't have said you can't you can't have your— said you can't you can't have your-gender- said you can't you can't havei your-gender-yeu your different gender and you cen-e— your different gender and you can't-a— your different gender and you can't-a-then- your different gender and you can't-a-then she- your different gender and you can't a then she would can't be a cat. then she would have— can't be a cat. then she would have-eee— can't be a cat. then she would have out disciplinary have been out disciplinary action.— have been out disciplinary action-wee- have been out disciplinary action.-was this- have been out disciplinary action. was this ideology action. how was this ideology nigel— action. how was this ideology nigel entrenched nigel become so entrenched that teachers— nigel become so entrenched that teachers-normally- teachers educated normally empowered— empowered in a classroom feel that— empowered in a classroom feel that-challenge- empowered in a classroom feel that challenge it? that they can't challenge it? wen. — that they can't challenge it? wen. i— that they can't challenge it? wen. i think— that they can't challenge it? well, | think that— that they can't challenge it? well, i think that the- that they can't challenge it? well, i think that the reason teachers have to actually address issue because we address the issue is because we are addressing the issues are all addressing the issues so often. mean, you hear the often. i mean, when you hear the audio what happened there, audio of what happened there, the teacher certainly being the teacher is certainly being overly is no overly aggressive. she is no harm saying to children, harm in saying to children, look, you ought to be kind to each other, whatever another child saying should she say

child is saying should she say that if she should , she be that if she should, she be saying, you know, you should be kind child who thinks kind to that child who thinks that are moon? well, that they are the moon? well, then next stage would the then the next stage would be the if you're having a debate, which is what they were about, about trans gender rights, the next stage there is to go through this child who identifies as a cat and say, well, actually, no, you can't that you can identify as a different gender what you can't do is identify as a different species. so there's no way that you could be a chihuahua or the other way round. a chihuahua can't be a human being. how do you know you cen-te— human being. how do you know you cen-w .— human being. how do you know you cen-m . neen— human being. how do you know you cen-m . m— human being. how do you know you can't? i mean, if you— human being. how do you know you can't? i mean, if you do— ct?" g how do you know you can't? i mean, if you do agree mm— can't? i mean, if you do agree mm yen— can't? i mean, if you do agree mm yen een— can't? i mean, if you do agree that you can be— can't? i mean, if you do agree that you can be a— can't? i mean, if you do agree that you can be a different gender.— that you can be a different gender. nm— that you can be a different gender, why can't you be a cat? neu— gender, why can't you be a cat? well because _ gender, why can't you be a cat? well because a— gender, why can't you be a cat? well because a dinosaur or the on me— well because a dinosaur or the moon or the moon,— well because a dinosaur or the moon or the moon, i identify as part— moon or the moon, i identify as nan ef— moon or the moon, i identify as pen on me— moon or the moon, i identify as part of the royal— moon or the moon, i identify as part of the royal family and i neme— part of the royal family and i would iike— part of the royal family and i would like you— part of the royal family and i would like you from now on to enu— would like you from now on to call-princess— would like you from now on to call princess tony. cc" call me princess tony. you can do call me princess tony. you can in mm. — call me princess tony. you can do that. that's okay. i can call me princess tony. / cc" cc i can call do that. that's okay. i can call you enneeee— do that. that's okay. i can call you princess meghan.- do that. that's okay. i can call you princess meghan. - cc i can call you princess meghan. mm do that. that's okay. i can call you princess meghan. now, that's all right. you could actually be all right. you could actually be a do that from a princess. we'll do that from now yeah. so i think now on. yeah. okay so i think you have actually used

you could have actually used this lesson to make a point about the. about how transitioning from one gender to the other actually works. and that's something i think kids do need to know about now, an awful lot of kids in school are actually trans. and as far as i can see from the kids i know in in such schools , it doesn't in such schools, it doesn't bother them at all. the only issue is sometimes changing areas. and then the school quietly sorts that out. sadly, we've run out of time,- c. sadly, we've run out of time, but we're going— we've run out of time, but we're going te— we've run out of time, but we're geing m ceme— we've run out of time, but we're going to come back— we've run out of time, but we're going to come back to this. we are going to come back to this. we nem— going to come back to this. we mm m— going to come back to this. we are right in the— going to come back to this. we are right in the next hour. mank— are right in the next hour. thank you.— are right in the next hour. mmn yen. guys.- are right in the next hour. thank you, guys. more- are right in the next hour. thank you, guys. more politics in the very latest on this titanic submarine that has gone missing. gb news, missing. we are gb news, britain's

channel down and it got to 11:00 on tuesday. the 20th of june. this is to the point on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce > and it's a huge story. the eenen— > and it's a huge story. the search on for— > and it's a huge story. the search on for the- > and it's a huge story. the search on for the titanic tonne— search on for the titanic tourist submarine lost at sea. me— tourist submarine lost at sea. me passengers— tourist submarine lost at sea. the passengers include the ennen— the passengers include the british-hamish. british billionaire hamish mening— british billionaire hamish harding shahzada dawood, one of penman— harding shahzada dawood, one of pakistan n-e— harding shahzada dawood, one of pakistan n's richest men . he was pakistan n's richest men. he was educated— pakistan n's richest men. he was educated m— pakistan n's richest men. he was educated in britain— pakistan n's richest men. he was educated in britain and his 19 year— educated in britain and his 19 year eie— educated in britain and his 19 yen em een— educated in britain and his 19 year old son, simon. it's thought— year old son, simon. it's thought-has- year old son, simon. it's- thought-has enough thought the sub has enough oxygen— thought the sub has enough oxygen te— thought the sub has enough oxygen m net— thought the sub has enough oxygen to last just until mummy.— oxygen to last just until thursday, 48- oxygen to last just until thursday, 48 hours go . oxygen to last just until- thursday, 48 hours-go . and oxygen to last just until— thursday, 48 hours-go . and is thursday, 48 hours to go. and is it thursday, 48 hours to go. and is n nu— thursday, 48 hours to go. and is m an even— thursday, 48 hours to go. and is it all over now— thursday, 48 hours to go. and is it all over now for— thursday, 48 hours to go. and is it all over now for boris? the former prime minister has lost his parliamentary pass after only seven mps voted against it. the report branding him a liar. rishi sunak skipped the vote , rishi sunak skipped the vote, prompting opposition parties to say that he was too weak to turn

up. we're going to be up. but we're going to be talking to one mp who did vote. indeed, and home secretary seeme— indeed, and home secretary suella braverman says stop and eenen— suella braverman says stop and semen—neme- suella braverman says stop and search _wants thej search works and she wants the neme— search works and she wants the neneelee — search works and she wants the police i do much _ search works and she wants the police do much more of it. police to do much more of it. is ene—geing- police to do much more of it. is ene—gemelnel she right? we're going to be joined— she right? we're going to be joined by— she right? we're going to be joined by en— she right? we're going to be joined by gb news very own nana ame— joined by gb news very own nana ame-memes.— joined by gb news very own nana akualdiscuss. get— joined by gb news very own nana akua discuss. get touch on akua to discuss. get in touch on gb akua to discuss. get in touch on en -m— akua to discuss. get in touch on en -m en— akua to discuss. get in touch on gb _at gb views- akua to discuss. get in touch on gb at gb views .com . let us gb news at gb views .com. let us men— gb news at gb views .com. let us know your— gb news at gb views .com. let us know your thoughts— gb news at gb views .com. let us know your thoughts on all of our eenen— know your thoughts on all of our ennen mm— know your thoughts on all of our stories this morning. gbviews@gbnews.com is the email address. but first of all, here is your very latest news with tatiana sanchez . beth, thank you tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very— tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very mmn— tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very mnen ene— tatiana sanchez. beth, thank you very much and good— c beth, thank you very much and good morning. it's mon— very much and good morning. it's neon mm— very much and good morning. it's neon mm m— very much and good morning. it's 11:01. this is the— very much and good morning. it's 11:01. this is the latest from me— 11:01. this is the latest from the newsroom.— 11:01. this is the latest from the newsroom. five people on beam.— the newsroom. five people on beam. e— the newsroom. five people on board, a missing— the newsroom. five people on board, a missing submersible mumm— board, a missing submersible tourist vessel— board, a missing submersible tourist vessel to— board, a missing submersible tourist vessel to the titanic snmnneek— tourist vessel to the titanic snmnneek m— tourist vessel to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic have approximately— shipwreck in the atlantic have approximately two days of oxygen left approximately two days of oxygen ien .— approximately two days of oxygen ien . rescue— approximately two days of oxygen left . rescue teams— approximately two days of oxygen left . rescue teams continue to left. rescue teams continue to eenen— left. rescue teams continue to eeeen ner— left. rescue teams continue to eeeen for e— left. rescue teams continue to search for a british billionaire nne— search for a british billionaire mne en— search for a british billionaire who on board— search for a british billionaire who on board as— search for a british billionaire who on board as well as a father and— who on board as well as a father met een— who on board as well as a father and son. shahzada— who on board as well as a father and son. shahzada dawood dawoud

and son. shahzada dawood dawoud ene smeimen. — and son. shahzada dawood dawoud and suleiman. it's— and son. shahzada dawood dawoud and suleiman. it's been confirmed— and suleiman. it's been confirmed captain hamish naming.— confirmed captain hamish naming. a— confirmed captain hamish harding, a pilot who owns an ammon— harding, a pilot who owns an aviation company, wrote on eeen— aviation company, wrote on some meme.— aviation company, wrote on social media, saying he would be mmng— social media, saying he would be taking nan— social media, saying he would be taking pen m— social media, saying he would be taking part in the— social media, saying he would be taking part in the dive. yesterday— taking part in the dive. yesterday the coastguard lost cemen— yesterday the coastguard lost contact with _ yesterday the coastguard lost contact with the _ yesterday the coastguard lost contact with the vessel around nem— contact with the vessel around neen ene— contact with the vessel around one hour and 45— contact with the vessel around one hour and 45 minutes into the two one hour and 45 minutes into the me nem— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to the titanic site: _ two hour descent to the titanic site, oceanographer dr. simon eenen— site, oceanographer dr. simon nexeu eeye— site, oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the— site, oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the situation is ennenc— boxall says the situation is critical. they're— boxall says the situation is critical. they're in a very ammun— critical. they're in a very difficult situation here. they-ne— difficult situation here. they're sitting - difficult situation here. they're sitting in- difficult situation here. they're sitting in four kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit of the sub's capability anyway. they're in a very deep part of the ocean. they're a long way from the coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time. and there are very few vessels that are capable of going to those sorts of depths. mps have voted to approve— of depths. mps have voted to approve me— of depths. mps have voted to approve the report,- : mps have voted to approve the report, which found none— approve the report, which found boris johnson— approve the report, which found boris johnson deliberately meteo— boris johnson deliberately misled parliament over lockdown ponies— misled parliament over lockdown pomee mm— misled parliament over lockdown pomee mm o— misled parliament over lockdown parties with a majority of 347. me — parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions— parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned against the the sanctions planned against me tormen— the sanctions planned against the former prime— the sanctions planned against the former prime minister mende— the former prime minister include banning him from having a include banning him from having o pom— include banning him from having

o pom to— include banning him from having a path to access— include banning him from having a path to access parliament. the .pb...p_ a path to access parliament. the liberal democrats— a path to access parliament. the liberal democrats have accused the liberal democrats have accused me enme— liberal democrats have accused the prime minister, rishi sunak, of the prime minister, rishi sunak, on pene— the prime minister, rishi sunak, on being too— the prime minister, rishi sunak, of being too weak— the prime minister, rishi sunak, of being too weak to even turn up to— of being too weak to even turn up to vote— of being too weak to even turn up to vote .— of being too weak to even turn up to vote . shadow scotland up to vote. shadow scotland secretory— up to vote. shadow scotland eeenepovy nn— up to vote. shadow scotland secretary ian murray agrees with the secretary ian murray agrees with me eonenone — secretary ian murray agrees with the sanctions. given this is a enme— the sanctions. given this is a prime minister— the sanctions. given this is a prime minister during a health enen— prime minister during a health enen mot— prime minister during a health crisis that has— prime minister during a health crisis that has never been seen before— crisis that has never been seen before .— crisis that has never been seen before . nno— crisis that has never been seen before , who has— crisis that has never been seen before , who has been found before, who has been found guilty— before, who has been found penny of— before, who has been found guilty of wilfully lying to parliament— guilty of wilfully lying to parliament and essentially memng— parliament and essentially enemngtvo— parliament and essentially sticking two fingers up to the puppe— sticking two fingers up to the public m— sticking two fingers up to the public in terms— sticking two fingers up to the public in terms of what they were sacrificing— public in terms of what they were sacrificing during that cowo— were sacrificing during that covm crisis— were sacrificing during that covm crisis. _ were sacrificing during that covid crisis. 'c covid crisis. and i think the sanction benefit is the crime. it's what boris johnson has done. it's what he's always done. it's what he's always done. he's ran away instead of facing the music and taking any sort of responsibility or accountability for his actions . accountability for his actions. over 6 million people with disabilities— over 6 million people with disabilities will receive a one on.— disabilities will receive a one on. epo— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost of— disabilities will receive a one off, £150 cost of living payment mom— off, £150 cost of living payment from today. — off, £150 cost of living payment from today. the— off, £150 cost of living payment from today. the government says the from today. the government says me payments— from today. the government says me poymeme pon— from today. the government says the payments part of a £100 pinion— the payments part of a £100 billion support— the payments part of a £100 billion support package for vulnerable— billion support package for vulnerable households aids. mose— vulnerable households aids. moee wno— vulnerable households aids. those who are— vulnerable households aids. those who are eligible will receive the _ those who are eligible will receive the payment automatically . work and receive the payment— automatically . work and pensions automatically. work and pensions secretory— automatically. work and pensions secretory nev— automatically. work and pensions secretary mel stride earlier evpvomeo— secretary mel stride earlier

explained to— secretary mel stride earlier explained to gb news the details of explained to gb news the details on me— explained to gb news the details on me package— explained to gb news the details of the package do— explained to gb news the details of the package do recognise the peeemee on— of the package do recognise the pressures of that— of the package do recognise the pressures of that brings . pressures of that brings. so the payment— pressures of that brings. so the payment of— pressures of that brings. so the payment ot meo— pressures of that brings. so the payment of £150 will . be for 6 payment of £150 will. be for 6 million disabled people. it will go out between now and july the fourth. people don't need to apply. it will automatically go into their bank accounts where they're qualifying for certain benefits, such as personal independence payments and disability living allowance and various other benefits. but look, this is part of a much broader package and the housing secretary says the uk faces an urgent need to build more homes as the population grows . as the population grows. michael gove says that house panama— michael gove says that house building could— michael gove says that house building could not be looked at pavety— building could not be looked at pmety tn— building could not be looked at purely in numbers, but was tneteaa— purely in numbers, but was instead about— purely in numbers, but was instead about creating homes and eetttemente— instead about creating homes and settlements for— instead about creating homes and settlements for future generations- settlements for future generations , as he claimed that generations, as he claimed that paattty— generations, as he claimed that pnattty va— generations, as he claimed that pnattty met— generations, as he claimed that quality was just as much a pnonty— quality was just as much a pnonty ae— quality was just as much a priority as the _ quality was just as much a priority as the number of houses . toot— priority as the number of houses . food inflation— priority as the number of houses . food inflation has— priority as the number of houses . food inflation has dropped to its . food inflation has dropped to to toveet— . food inflation has dropped to its lowest this— . food inflation has dropped to its lowest this year , but its lowest this year, but reconna— its lowest this year, but records show- its lowest this year, but records show it's at the moment. — records show it's at the highest. it's— records show it's at the highest. it's been in 15 years, to according—

highest. it's been in 15 years, to according research by kantar enoeeny— to according research by kantar evoeeny .— to according research by kantar enoeeny . pneee— to according research by kantar grocery , prices increased by grocery, prices increased by testo— grocery, prices increased by test/o tn— grocery, prices increased by 16.5% in four— grocery, prices increased by 16.5% in four the- grocery, prices increased by 16.5% in four the weeks to june in..— 16.5% in four the weeks to june ntn compared— 16.5% in four the weeks to june 11th, compared with the same penoa— 11th, compared with the same penoa a— 11th, compared with the same penoa a year— 11th, compared with the same period a year ago. nearly 70% of noaeenotae— period a year ago. nearly 70% of households say— period a year ago. nearly 70% of households say they're extremely or households say they're extremely on very— households say they're extremely on very vomea— households say they're extremely or very worried about rising toot— or very worried about rising toot pneee— or very worried about rising toot pneee .— or very worried about rising food prices . now new figures food prices. now new figures enov— food prices. now new figures enov a— food prices. now new figures show a dramatic— food prices. now new figures show a dramatic rise in the moment— show a dramatic rise in the moment ot— show a dramatic rise in the number of women freezing their eggs— number of women freezing their eggs tn— number of women freezing their eage tn tne— number of women freezing their eage tn tne um— number of women freezing their eggs in the uk, while more emote— eggs in the uk, while more emote peopte— eggs in the uk, while more single people are now opting for ivf ,— single people are now opting for tvt . naman— single people are now opting for ivf , human fertilisation and ivf, human fertilisation and tmpnyotogy— ivf, human fertilisation and embryology authority found empnyo— embryology authority found embryo storage has increased vntte— embryo storage has increased vntte egg— embryo storage has increased while egg freezing has also meeaeea— while egg freezing has also increased by— while egg freezing has also increased by 64% since 2019. some— increased by 64% since 2019. some expens— increased by 64% since 2019. some experts have said the covid 19 some experts have said the covid m panaemte— some experts have said the covid 19 pandemic had— some experts have said the covid 19 pandemic had a— some experts have said the covid 19 pandemic had a big impact on the 19 pandemic had a big impact on me moment— 19 pandemic had a big impact on me namevp ot— 19 pandemic had a big impact on the number of women wanting to tveeze— the number of women wanting to tveeze tnet— the number of women wanting to freeze their eggs— the number of women wanting to freeze their eggs in— the number of women wanting to freeze their eggs in the hope of pneeevvtna— freeze their eggs in the hope of preserving their— freeze their eggs in the hope of preserving their fertility . now preserving their fertility. now new research— preserving their fertility. now new research suggests taking regular— new research suggests taking regular daytime— new research suggests taking regular daytime naps could be good— regular daytime naps could be good to— regular daytime naps could be good for brain— regular daytime naps could be good for brain health, as it conta— good for brain health, as it come stov— good for brain health, as it could slow the _ good for brain health, as it could slow the rate at which the man— could slow the rate at which the brain shrinks— could slow the rate at which the brain shrinks as— could slow the rate at which the brain shrinks as we— could slow the rate at which the brain shrinks as we age. mooning— brain shrinks as we age. according to— brain shrinks as we age. according to research carried out— according to research carried out at— according to research carried out at tact. — according to research carried out at ucl. the— according to research carried out at ucl. the study suggests the out at ucl. the study suggests tne veage— out at ucl. the study suggests the average difference in brain votme— the average difference in brain volume between _ the average difference in brain volume between people programmed to natttaat—

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nappene.— bring you more news as it nappene. nov— bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to andrew and .— and.bev iso- and.bev i so thei and.bev so the search continues for a submersible tourist vessel which was route to the titanic was en route to the titanic shipwreck middle the shipwreck in the middle of the atlantic the british atlantic ocean. the british billionaire he's billionaire hamish harding, he's chairman private plane chairman of the private plane firm aviation, is on firm action aviation, is on board five person oceangate board the five person oceangate expeditions vessel. only 22ft long, expeditions vessel. only 22ft tong. vnten — expeditions vessel. only 22ft long, which was— : only 22ft long, which was reported overdue on sanaay— long, which was reported overdue on sunday evening, 435 miles eoatn— on sunday evening, 435 miles eoatn ot— on sunday evening, 435 miles south of newfoundland are also on toad.— south of newfoundland are also on boat. — south of newfoundland are also on boat. te— south of newfoundland are also on board. : t: on board. is shahzada dawood, who is one of the richest men in pakistan. the vice chairman of one of the largest companies in the country on board. also is his son, who's only 19, and he he was educated here in britain . he's got a big house in surrey . tn— . he's got a big house in surrey . tn a— . he's got a big house in surrey . in a statement,— . he's got a big house in surrey . in a statement, his— he's got a big house in surrey . in a statement, his company ana— . in a statement, his company and me— . in a statement, his company and his family— . in a statement, his company and his family thank colleagues and his family thank colleagues and tnenae— and his family thank colleagues and tvtenae .— and his family thank colleagues and friends , were— and his family thank colleagues and friends , were all praying and friends, were all praying for and friends, were all praying to me— and friends, were all praying to me eate— and friends, were all praying for his safe return as we all yeah.— for his safe return as we all are. yeah. joining- for his safe return as we all are. yeah. joining us- for his safe return as we all

are. “cu?" " g cc. are. yeah. joining us now is titanic author, historian and tv presenter, tim martin. good morning, tim. thank you very much. thank you forjoining us. much. thank you for joining us. what is the enduring fascination with the titanic that would encourage these men to spend such eyewatering amounts of money to go and see it in person ? ithink money to go and see it in person ? i think that's right. she's enen— ? i think that's right. she's enen an— ? i think that's right. she's such an iconic— 7’ i think that's right. she's such an iconic tragedy, 1500 peopte— such an iconic tragedy, 1500 peopte toet— such an iconic tragedy, 1500 people lost their— such an iconic tragedy, 1500 people lost their lives 111 yeave— people lost their lives 111 yeane ago.— people lost their lives 111 yeane ago. on— people lost their lives 111 years ago. on the 15th of april, tetz. — years ago. on the 15th of april, tetz. ana— years ago. on the 15th of april, tetz. ana tney— years ago. on the 15th of april, 1912. and they ranged from the nteneet— 1912. and they ranged from the noneet peopte— 1912. and they ranged from the richest people in— 1912. and they ranged from the richest people in society to ot— richest people in society to ot tne— richest people in society to some of the poorest who were toottna— some of the poorest who were toottna ton— some of the poorest who were toottng tor a— some of the poorest who were looking for a new— some of the poorest who were looking for a new life in amentea— looking for a new life in america. so— looking for a new life in america. so titanic was, if you like— america. so titanic was, if you ttte. a— america. so titanic was, if you ttte. a knot— america. so titanic was, if you like, a kind of— america. so titanic was, if you like, a kind of microcosm of eoetety— like, a kind of microcosm of eoetety vttn— like, a kind of microcosm of society with the _ like, a kind of microcosm of society with the whole of eoetety— society with the whole of eoetety on — society with the whole of society on board. and of course, ene— society on board. and of course, ene ntt— society on board. and of course, ene ntt an— society on board. and of course, she hit an iceberg— society on board. and of course, she hit an iceberg on her maiden voyage.— she hit an iceberg on her maiden voyage. vnten— she hit an iceberg on her maiden voyage, which made her more tatte— voyage, which made her more tnaete aeatn— voyage, which made her more tragic again. and— voyage, which made her more tragic again. and she was the anetntatte— tragic again. and she was the unsinkable ship,— tragic again. and she was the unsinkable ship, tim, wasn't she 7 unsinkable ship, tim, wasn't she e tnat-e— unsinkable ship, tim, wasn't she ? that's absolutely— unsinkable ship, tim, wasn't she ? that's absolutely right. so i can absolutely— ? that's absolutely right. so i can absolutely understand people vanttne— can absolutely understand people vanttne to— can absolutely understand people vanttne to 90— can absolutely understand people wanting to go down to get close to net.— wanting to go down to get close to her. however,— wanting to go down to get close to her. however, it— wanting to go down to get close to her. however, it is a risk . to her. however, it is a risk. tnte— to her. however, it is a risk. tnte te— to her. however, it is a risk. tnte te tne— to her. however, it is a risk. this is the latest- to her. however, it is a risk. this is the latest technology, you— this is the latest technology, you know. — this is the latest technology, you know. two— this is the latest technology, you know, two miles down. it's atmoet— you know, two miles down. it's atmoet ttte— you know, two miles down. it's atmoet ttte a— you know, two miles down. it's almost like a space mission. and tnte— almost like a space mission. and tnte teennotoey—

almost like a space mission. and this technology is— almost like a space mission. and this technology is in its tntaney— this technology is in its infancy and— this technology is in its infancy and there are not many veeeete— infancy and there are not many veeeete tnat— infancy and there are not many vessels that can— infancy and there are not many vessels that can actually mount a rescue because— vessels that can actually mount a rescue because not many things can a rescue because not many things 90— a rescue because not many things go tnte— a rescue because not many things go tnte deep.— a rescue because not many things can go this deep. tim as eomepoay— can go this deep. tim as somebody that- can go this deep. tim as somebody that is also so fascinated— somebody that is also so fascinated by— somebody that is also so fascinated by the titanic , would fascinated by the titanic, would you fascinated by the titanic, would yoa nave— fascinated by the titanic, would you have taken— fascinated by the titanic, would you have taken an— fascinated by the titanic, would you have taken an invitation to— you have taken an invitation to go— you have taken an invitation even to go aboard this vessel natt— even to go aboard this vessel met you— even to go aboard this vessel nae yon teen— even to go aboard this vessel had you been presented with one? i had you been presented with one? t att— had you been presented with one? t ttt tteeaee— had you been presented with one? i did discuss this— had you been presented with one? i did discuss this because- had you been presented with one? i did discuss this because the- i did discuss this because the opportunity did arise not with this company, but i did actually decide that it was safer as i have young children and stuff to actually view it from a distance. but i'm very sad to team— distance. but i'm very sad to team tnat— distance. but i'm very sad to learn that there— distance. but i'm very sad to learn that there is— distance. but i'm very sad to learn that there is a- c c but i'm very sad to learn that there is a young man on boat. — learn that there is a young man on boat. t— learn that there is a young man on board. i believe— learn that there is a young man on board. i believe he's only atom— on board. i believe he's only about te— on board. i believe he's only about 19 years— on board. i believe he's only about 19 years of— on board. i believe he's only about 19 years of age. so i hope ana— about 19 years of age. so i hope and pray— about 19 years of age. so i hope and pray ae— about 19 years of age. so i hope and pray ae ve— about 19 years of age. so i hope and pray as we all— about 19 years of age. so i hope and pray as we all do, that the air and pray as we all do, that the at taete— and pray as we all do, that the at taete oat— and pray as we all do, that the air lasts out and— and pray as we all do, that the air lasts out and if— and pray as we all do, that the air lasts out and if the sub can tee— air lasts out and if the sub can to— air lasts out and if the sub can to tne— air lasts out and if the sub can rise to the surface,— air lasts out and if the sub can rise to the surface, it could be ptetea— rise to the surface, it could be ptetea ap— rise to the surface, it could be ptetea pp py— rise to the surface, it could be ptetea up by a— rise to the surface, it could be picked up by a helicopter. my teat— picked up by a helicopter. my teat te— picked up by a helicopter. my teat te tt— picked up by a helicopter. my fear is if it's— picked up by a helicopter. my fear is if it's somehow entangtea— fear is if it's somehow entangled in- fear is if it's somehow entangled in the wreck on the eeateet— entangled in the wreck on the eeatea. tt-e— entangled in the wreck on the seabed, it's going to be almost tmpoeetpte— seabed, it's going to be almost tmpoeettte to— seabed, it's going to be almost impossible to launch a sub to eat— impossible to launch a sub to eat tvaneten— impossible to launch a sub to sub transfer of— impossible to launch a sub to sub transfer of the of the human peopte— sub transfer of the of the human peopte . — sub transfer of the of the human peopte . tte— sub transfer of the of the human peopte . me a— sub transfer of the of the human people . it's a terrible,- sub transfer of the of the human people . c people. it's a terrible, awful irony, tim. if lives are lost,

if they particularly if that submarine was somehow caught up in the wreckage of the titanic , in the wreckage of the titanic, claiming lives 110 years later, the absolutely right. in fact, this reminds me— the absolutely right. in fact, this reminds me of- the absolutely right. in fact, this reminds me of the- g in fact, this reminds me of the media epeeatatton— this reminds me of the media speculation at— this reminds me of the media speculation at the time after tne— speculation at the time after me tttante— speculation at the time after the titanic had— speculation at the time after the titanic had collided with an teeteng. — the titanic had collided with an iceberg. everyone— the titanic had collided with an iceberg. everyone knew that from the iceberg. everyone knew that from me tatto— iceberg. everyone knew that from me naato at— iceberg. everyone knew that from the radio at the— iceberg. everyone knew that from the radio at the time, but no tnev— the radio at the time, but no tnev tn— the radio at the time, but no one knew if everyone had been evea— one knew if everyone had been evett tt— one knew if everyone had been evett tt no— one knew if everyone had been evett tt no one— one knew if everyone had been saved, if no one had been saved, or saved, if no one had been saved, on tn— saved, if no one had been saved, on t. ae— saved, if no one had been saved, on t. ae tn— saved, if no one had been saved, on t. ae tn tact— saved, if no one had been saved, or if, as in fact happened, 705 peopte— or if, as in fact happened, 705 peopte-eavea. - or if, as in fact happened, 705 people-saved. but- or if, as in fact happened, 705 people saved. but you know, people were saved. but you know, in people were saved. but you know, tn tne— people were saved. but you know, tn tne vovet— people were saved. but you know, in the worst case— people were saved. but you know, in the worst case scenario, it is in the worst case scenario, it te poeetpte— in the worst case scenario, it is possible that— in the worst case scenario, it is possible that the titanic conta— is possible that the titanic eoattt pe— is possible that the titanic could be claiming new victims. even— could be claiming new victims. p...-,_ could be claiming new victims. even-, there'll- could be claiming new victims. even-, there'll be- could be claiming new victims. even , there'll be sort of even today, there'll be sort of a younger— even today, there'll be sort of a younger generation, of course, ppm.— a younger generation, of course, ttm-onty— a younger generation, of course, ttm-onty mov— a younger generation, of course, tim,-only know of- a younger generation, of course, tim, only know of this boat tim, who only know of this boat teeaaee— tim, who only know of this boat peeaaee ot— tim, who only know of this boat because of the— tim, who only know of this boat because of the movie. c; because of the movie. the movie did because of the movie. the movie ate a— because of the movie. the movie ate a tot.— because of the movie. the movie did a lot, didn't it, to maintain the memory of the titanic and to keep its legacy alive . it did. and fans of that alive. it did. and fans of that movie will recall that james cameron dived on the ship multiple times. and in fact, that multiple times. and in fact, tnat tt— multiple times. and in fact, that it starts— multiple times. and in fact, that it starts with— multiple times. and in fact, that it starts with the - that it starts with the submersibles going down to the vee-t — submersibles going down to the vee-t ana— submersibles going down to the vee-t ana t— submersibles going down to the wreck. and i think— submersibles going down to the wreck. and i think that sort of

meatee— wreck. and i think that sort of creates a sense— wreck. and i think that sort of creates a sense of— wreck. and i think that sort of creates a sense of security and eatety— creates a sense of security and eatety tnat— creates a sense of security and safety that this— creates a sense of security and safety that this has been done etne— safety that this has been done 1985,— safety that this has been done since 1985, when— safety that this has been done since 1985, when bob ballard vent— since 1985, when bob ballard vent tonn— since 1985, when bob ballard went down to— since 1985, when bob ballard went down to the wreck, when he ateeovevea — went down to the wreck, when he discovered that— went down to the wreck, when he discovered that the— went down to the wreck, when he discovered that the ship all tnoee— discovered that the ship all tnoee yeave— discovered that the ship all those years ago. but, of course, it those years ago. but, of course, tt toee— those years ago. but, of course, tt toee eee— those years ago. but, of course, it does seem today— those years ago. but, of course, it does seem today like tragedy mav— it does seem today like tragedy may nave— it does seem today like tragedy may have struck— it does seem today like tragedy may have struck . may have struck. is that what would you say to those people who say it's a bit mawkish? actually, this is a grave. there are many bodies still buried , are many bodies still buried, still went down with the titanic . we in fact, we spoke to a journalist whose great grandfather was a stoker and lost his life on the titanic. and his body was never recovered. what do you say to those people who say it's a bit mawkish? i know it's we're fascinated by it, but we don't normally do this in graveyards . normally do this in graveyards. well, we are used to paying our veepeete— well, we are used to paying our veepeete tn— well, we are used to paying our respects in graveyards and going to vtett— respects in graveyards and going to vtett tnte— respects in graveyards and going to vtett tnte .— respects in graveyards and going to visit this . the— respects in graveyards and going to visit this . the thing to to visit this. the thing to remember is— to visit this. the thing to remember is the titanic broke tnto— remember is the titanic broke tnto tno— remember is the titanic broke into two halves,— remember is the titanic broke into two halves, and most of tnoee— into two halves, and most of tnoee wno— into two halves, and most of those who drowned on the ship endea— those who drowned on the ship ended up— those who drowned on the ship ended up on— those who drowned on the ship ended up on-stern- those who drowned on the ship ended up on stem of the ended up on the stern of the emp— ended up on the stern of the entp-tnate— ended up on the stern of the ship. that's actually quite ship. and that's actually quite a.wety— ship. and that's actually quite a-vay—tne- ship. and that's actually quitei a-vay—tne pov- ship. and that's actually quite- a-way_the bow. so a long way away from the bow. so i_w— a long way away from the bow. so t-eay tne— a long way away from the bow. so t-eay tne vnote— a long way away from the bow. so i-say the whole area- a long way away from the bow. so i say the whole area of i would say the whole area of tnat— i would say the whole area of mm pan— i would say the whole area of mm pan ot— i would say the whole area of that part of the— i would say the whole area of that part of the north atlantic

is that part of the north atlantic te otvtoaety— that part of the north atlantic is obviously a— that part of the north atlantic is obviously a site, is obviously a sacred site, a memonat— is obviously a sacred site, a memovtat .— is obviously a sacred site, a memorial . but— is obviously a sacred site, a memorial. but equally, i think tneve— memorial. but equally, i think mete-vana— memorial. but equally, i think there valid scientific there is a valid scientific reason to monitor the wreck, to toot— reason to monitor the wreck, to toot at— reason to monitor the wreck, to toot at now— reason to monitor the wreck, to look at how much— reason to monitor the wreck, to look at how much it's decaying ana— look at how much it's decaying and to— look at how much it's decaying and to continue— look at how much it's decaying and to continue to— look at how much it's decaying and to continue to learn more atom— and to continue to learn more atom-amaztng- and to continue to learn more. about-amazing-that about that amazing tragedy that we about that amazing tragedy that ve-aon-t— about that amazing tragedy that ve-aon-t mov— about that amazing tragedy that we don't know everything we still don't know everything atom— we still don't know everything about nov— we still don't know everything about how much— we still don't know everything about how much what kind of tootage— about how much what kind of tootage nave— about how much what kind of footage have we— about how much what kind of footage have we got now, tim, we've seen some— footage have we got now, tim, we've seen some images that we've been playing this morning, but we've been playing this morning, tat-etu— we've been playing this morning, pat-etttt a— we've been playing this morning, but-still a lot— we've been playing this morning, but-still a lot of- we've been playing this morning, but-still a lot of it- but is there still a lot of it tnat— but is there still a lot of it tnat naen-t— but is there still a lot of it that hasn't been seen by the naman— that hasn't been seen by the nnman eyee — that hasn't been seen by the human eye? be— that hasn't been seen by the human eye? . c human eye? be that via a camera or or how do they get that footage at the moment? is it just a submersible camera or is it on a vessel? well, both. we do it on a vessel? well, both. we to nave— it on a vessel? well, both. we do have these— c c" , well, both. we do have these manned submersibles that we've been teamtng— submersibles that we've been learning about— submersibles that we've been learning about today. also we nave— learning about today. also we nave emote— learning about today. also we have remote cameras that can pnotognapn— have remote cameras that can pnotognapn tne— have remote cameras that can photograph the whole of the ship like photograph the whole of the ship ttte a— photograph the whole of the ship ttte a ean— photograph the whole of the ship like a scan almost— photograph the whole of the ship like a scan almost like draining the like a scan almost like draining tne water— like a scan almost like draining tne water out— like a scan almost like draining the water out of— like a scan almost like draining the water out of the atlantic ana— the water out of the atlantic and petng— the water out of the atlantic and being able— the water out of the atlantic and being able to look. but, of course, to answer— and being able to look. but, of course, to answer your question, vnat— course, to answer your question, vnat tt— course, to answer your question, vnat tt aoeen-t— course, to answer your question, what it doesn't do— course, to answer your question, what it doesn't do is it doesn't eveat— what it doesn't do is it doesn't reveal what's— what it doesn't do is it doesn't reveal what's under the mud. tttante— reveal what's under the mud. titanic actually— reveal what's under the mud. titanic actually on quite titanic actually sank on quite eott— titanic actually sank on quite eon-ta— titanic actually sank on quite soft-i'd certainly. titanic actually sank on quite soft i'd certainly be soft mud. and i'd certainly be very— soft mud. and i'd certainly be very interested— soft mud. and i'd certainly be very interested to— soft mud. and i'd certainly be very interested to use geo pnyeteat— very interested to use geo physical technology such as archaeologists— physical technology such as archaeologists use to actually be atte—

archaeologists use to actually be atte-ae— archaeologists use to actually be able-as it- archaeologists use to actually be able as it were, be able to look as it were, tnnoagn— be able to look as it were, tnnongn tne— be able to look as it were, through the mud to see exactly the through the mud to see exactly tne name— through the mud to see exactly the nature .the _ through the mud to see exactly the nature the damage done to the nature of the damage done to the nature of the damage done to tne-py— the nature of the damage done to tne-py-teepevg- the nature of the damage done to tne-py-teepeng. - the titanic by the iceberg. timp— the titanic by the iceberg. ttm. ttnatty— the titanic by the iceberg. tim, finally, do— the titanic by the iceberg. tim, finally, do you- the titanic by the iceberg. tim, finally, do you think this whatever happens here, perhaps people who are exploring the titanic perhaps have to take more serious ? they have to be more serious? they have to be a bit more cautious. for instance, there's no rescue pod on here and they are literally trapped in there. the only way they could the traps can be released is by an external crew. perhaps we have to think about this we have to think about all this again. that's right. i think if they again. that's right. i think if tney vee— again. that's right. i think if tney gotng— again. that's right. i think if they were going into- cgc " g i think if they were going into space, we vome— they were going into space, we would obviously— they were going into space, we would obviously take certain pneeaattone— would obviously take certain precautions us.— would obviously take certain precautions us. but it's rather ttte— precautions us. but it's rather ttte deep— precautions us. but it's rather like deep space— precautions us. but it's rather like deep space going down into the like deep space going down into tne pottom — like deep space going down into the bottom of— like deep space going down into the bottom of the— like deep space going down into the bottom of the atlantic and tney— the bottom of the atlantic and tney ao— the bottom of the atlantic and tney to nave— the bottom of the atlantic and they do have paperwork they do have to sign paperwork tnat— they do have to sign paperwork mat-yon— they do have to sign paperwork tnat-yoa mow.— they do have to sign paperwork that you know, anything that says, you know, anything conta— that says, you know, anything eonta nappen— that says, you know, anything could happen, but you never tntnt— could happen, but you never tntnt-gotng— could happen, but you never tntnt-gotng to- could happen, but you never think going to be you. you think it's going to be you. you atvaye— think it's going to be you. you atvaye-nae- think it's going to be you. you always-has been. think it's going to be you. you always has been done always think this has been done tetove—otayl before. i'm going to be okay. team— before. i'm going to be okay. team at— before. i'm going to be okay. yeah. all right. _ before. i'm going to be okay. yeah. all right. . yeah. all right. that's tv presenter tim mattlin, who's written extensively about the titanic. to update you, titanic. just to update you, that search continuing. we're that search is continuing. we're going you updated about going to keep you updated about that on that throughout the day here on gb news. people on board,

gb news. five people on board, 22 foot vessel, five people on board are controlled by an an xbox. the board are controlled by an an xbox . the more i've seen the xbox. the more i've seen the mature— xbox. the more i've seen the ptetmee ot— xbox. the more i've seen the pictures of this— xbox. the more i've seen the pictures of this this- < the more i've seen the pictures of this this morning, the pictures of this this morning, tne moe— pictures of this this morning, tne tt— pictures of this this morning, the more it doesn't look tenttty— the more it doesn't look terribly seaworthy . c : c terribly seaworthy. it doesn't toot— terribly seaworthy. it doesn't look surely it must have passed particularly sophisticated . particularly sophisticated. they must have done particularly sophisticated. - they must have done £200,000 eaen— they must have done £200,000 eat to— they must have done £200,000 eat to go— they must have done £200,000 each to go down— they must have done £200,000 each to go down there we go. vvere— each to go down there we go. vve-ve toottng— each to go down there we go. we're looking at— each to go down there we go. we're looking at the pictures of it we're looking at the pictures of tt neve.— we're looking at the pictures of tt neve. ae— we're looking at the pictures of tt neve. ae yon— we're looking at the pictures of it here. as you say,— we're looking at the pictures of it here. as you say, it's tiny. aetaatty— it here. as you say, it's tiny. actually yeah.— it here. as you say, it's tiny. actually yeah. and all it needs is actually yeah. and all it needs te one— actually yeah. and all it needs te ematt— actually yeah. and all it needs is one small break, a fissure in any— is one small break, a fissure in any ot— is one small break, a fissure in any ot tnoee— is one small break, a fissure in any of those seals— is one small break, a fissure in any of those seals at that sort of any of those seals at that sort ot aeptn. — any of those seals at that sort ot aeptn. tvo— any of those seals at that sort of depth. two and— any of those seals at that sort of depth. two and a half miles anten— of depth. two and a half miles nneen tne— of depth. two and a half miles under the ocean,— of depth. two and a half miles under the ocean, you are in all eovte— under the ocean, you are in all eovte ot— under the ocean, you are in all eovte ot ana— under the ocean, you are in all sorts of and you— under the ocean, you are in all sorts of and you have to remember that a nuclear eavnpmate— remember that a nuclear submarine can- remember that a nuclear submarine can only go be eatmevgea— submarine can only go be submerged 300m. " submarine can only go be- submerged 300m. this is two and a half miles deep. put it in perspective, doesn't it ? it perspective, doesn't it? it really does. and i c : . fl it really does. and i know we all nave— really does. and i know we all have different— really does. and i know we all have different parameter of risk and t— have different parameter of risk and t am— have different parameter of risk and t an t— have different parameter of risk and t an t am— have different parameter of risk and i am i am very risk averse. i and i am i am very risk averse. t ton-t— and i am i am very risk averse. t ton-t eti— and i am i am very risk averse. t ton-t ett. t— and i am i am very risk averse. i don't ski, i don't— and i am i am very risk averse. i don't ski, i don't ,— and i am i am very risk averse. i don't ski, i don't , you know, i don't ski, i don't, you know, ton-t— i don't ski, i don't, you know, ton-t yon— i don't ski, i don't, you know, don't you don't— i don't ski, i don't, you know, don't you don't really do anytntng— don't you don't really do anything that— don't you don't really do anything that doesn't involve a eeatpett— anything that doesn't involve a eeattett on— anything that doesn't involve a seatbelt or driving carefully. so seatbelt or driving carefully. so tt-e— seatbelt or driving carefully. so tt-e not— seatbelt or driving carefully. so it's not what— seatbelt or driving carefully. so it's not what i would do. but i so it's not what i would do. but t to— so it's not what i would do. but

i do understand— so it's not what i would do. but i do understand how people have a meet.— i do understand how people have a meet. vtett— i do understand how people have a need. well challenge themselves,— a need. well challenge themselves, thrills and adventure. - themselves, thrills and adventure. ' c themselves, thrills and adventure. c themselves, thrills and adventure. ' c cc. themselves, thrills and— adventure. and of course, hamish who's who's down there. hamish harding. harding has got three world records for deep sea water exploration. this is what this is what he likes doing. yeah. let us know your c g yeah. let us know your thoughts now. tate— let us know your thoughts now. ttte voted— let us know your thoughts now. mps voted overwhelming- let us know your thoughts now. mps voted overwhelming to back that privileges committee report that privileges committee report that boris johnson lied to that found boris johnson lied to parliament recklessly about partygate. only parliament recklessly about partygate . only seven mps voted partygate. only seven mps voted agatnet— partygate. only seven mps voted agatnet tne— partygate. only seven mps voted against the privileges— against the privileges committee's findings in a aeteat.— committee's findings in a defeat, which— committee's findings in a defeat, which means that the nonmet— defeat, which means that the former prime— defeat, which means that the former prime minister's parliamentary pass will now be nevotea. — parliamentary pass will now be revoked. well,— parliamentary pass will now be revoked. well, one— parliamentary pass will now be revoked. well, one of those mps wno— revoked. well, one of those mps vno voted— revoked. well, one of those mps vno voted to— revoked. well, one of those mps who voted to support the prime tttnteten— who voted to support the prime tttnteten te— who voted to support the prime minister is sir— who voted to support the prime minister is sir bill— who voted to support the prime minister is sir bill cash. c; minister is sir bill cash. he's tne— minister is sir bill cash. he's the conservative— minister is sir bill cash. he's the conservative mp for stone and of course he's chairman of the scrutiny committee the european scrutiny committee and us so, bill, and joins us now. so, bill, morning you. there wasn't morning to you. there wasn't many of you or just one of seven. why so few ? well, a lot seven. why so few? well, a lot of seven. why so few? well, a lot ot peopte— seven. why so few? well, a lot of people abstained,- " kitty , well, a lot of people abstained, and it's gutte— of people abstained, and it's quite difficult— of people abstained, and it's quite difficult to— of people abstained, and it's quite difficult to know why they atetatnea — quite difficult to know why they atetatnea tn— quite difficult to know why they abstained in the— quite difficult to know why they abstained in the sense that some peopte— abstained in the sense that some peopte may— abstained in the sense that some peopte may nave— abstained in the sense that some

people may have abstained simply teeaaee— people may have abstained simply peeaaee tney— people may have abstained simply because they didn't— people may have abstained simply because they didn't want to say evaetty— because they didn't want to say evaetty vnat— because they didn't want to say exactly what they— because they didn't want to say exactly what they were thinking at tne — exactly what they were thinking at tne ttme. — exactly what they were thinking at the time. others perhaps peeaaee— at the time. others perhaps peeaaee tt— at the time. others perhaps because it was— at the time. others perhaps because it was a- at the time. others perhaps because it was a decision partly taken— because it was a decision partly taten py— because it was a decision partly taken by tne— because it was a decision partly taken by the whips, i'm not gutte— taken by the whips, i'm not gntte ee— taken by the whips, i'm not gntte .— taken by the whips, i'm not quite sure . but— taken by the whips, i'm not quite sure . but the reality is quite sure. but the reality is tnat— quite sure. but the reality is tnat peopte— quite sure. but the reality is tnat peopte tn— quite sure. but the reality is that people in these circumstances have a free vote ana— circumstances have a free vote and ne— circumstances have a free vote and tt-e a— circumstances have a free vote and it's a matter— circumstances have a free vote and it's a matter of conscience ana— and it's a matter of conscience ant tn— and it's a matter of conscience ant tn my— and it's a matter of conscience once and in my opinion , also once and in my opinion, also a matte— once and in my opinion, also a matten ot— once and in my opinion, also a matter of great— once and in my opinion, also a matter of great significance of a ntetonte— matter of great significance of a historic nature— matter of great significance of a historic nature .— matter of great significance of a historic nature . because this a historic nature. because this vote— a historic nature. because this vote vttnoat— a historic nature. because this vote without a— a historic nature. because this vote without a shadow of doubt, is vote without a shadow of doubt, te gotng— vote without a shadow of doubt, te gotng to— vote without a shadow of doubt, te gotng to get— vote without a shadow of doubt, is going to get into the history boote— is going to get into the history toote ana— is going to get into the history books and not— is going to get into the history books and not only that, it's ateo— books and not only that, it's ateo gotng— books and not only that, it's ateo gotng to— books and not only that, it's also going to be— books and not only that, it's also going to be embedded in the panttamentany— also going to be embedded in the parliamentary bible. erskine may,— parliamentary bible. erskine nay. vnene— parliamentary bible. erskine may, where they're going to give this may, where they're going to give tnte ae— may, where they're going to give tnte ae a— may, where they're going to give tnte ae a veny— may, where they're going to give this as a very important pneeetent— this as a very important precedent, and that's one of the vny— precedent, and that's one of the vny tm— precedent, and that's one of the reasons why i'm so— precedent, and that's one of the reasons why i'm so concerned atom— reasons why i'm so concerned about tne— reasons why i'm so concerned about the actual— reasons why i'm so concerned about the actual bill mechanics of about the actual bill mechanics ot nov— about the actual bill mechanics on non tne— about the actual bill mechanics of how the procedure operated as i of how the procedure operated as t eatet— of how the procedure operated as t eata tn— of how the procedure operated as t eata tn tne— of how the procedure operated as i said in the debate— of how the procedure operated as i said in the debate yesterday , i said in the debate yesterday, tntng— i said in the debate yesterday, tntng ton— i said in the debate yesterday, tntng ton yon.— i said in the debate yesterday, thing for you, sir,— i said in the debate yesterday, thing for you, sir, bill, about me— thing for you, sir, bill, about tnte .— thing for you, sir, bill, about tnte . nae— thing for you, sir, bill, about tnte . tt— thing for you, sir, bill, about this , was it the— thing for you, sir, bill, about this , was it the 90 day this, was it the 90 day suspension,- this, was it the 90 day suspension, which to my mind was tattenoaety— suspension, which to my mind was ludicrously over— suspension, which to my mind was ludicrously over the— suspension, which to my mind was ludicrously over the top 50 days of ludicrously over the top 50 days on mat.— ludicrously over the top 50 days

of that, because _ ludicrously over the top 50 days of that, because boris johnson natt— of that, because boris johnson naa tne— of that, because boris johnson had the temerity— of that, because boris johnson had the temerity to criticise tne— had the temerity to criticise tne pnoeee— had the temerity to criticise tne pnoeee py— had the temerity to criticise the process by which the committee _ the process by which the committee reached its decision. as committee reached its decision. no you— committee reached its decision. on you man.— committee reached its decision. as you know, harriet— committee reached its decision. as you know, harriet harman , the as you know, harriet harman, the chairman, had long made her mind up that boris had broken the rules . well okay, but to me the rules. well okay, but to me the suspension is the consequence . suspension is the consequence. once and i agree with your eenttment— once and i agree with your sentiment, which is that it's tne— sentiment, which is that it's tne top. — sentiment, which is that it's over the top. but- sentiment, which is that it's over the top. but having said tnat— over the top. but having said tnat .— over the top. but having said tnat . tnat— over the top. but having said that , that the— over the top. but having said that , that the decision that has that, that the decision that has teen— that, that the decision that has been taken— that, that the decision that has been taken has— that, that the decision that has been taken has to— that, that the decision that has been taken has to be viewed, in my optnton— been taken has to be viewed, in my optnton .— been taken has to be viewed, in my opinion , against the my opinion, against the background— my opinion, against the background of the fact that this was background of the fact that this a veny— background of the fact that this a veny tange— background of the fact that this was a very large majority, attett— was a very large majority, albeit there _ was a very large majority, albeit there were significant g...— albeit there were significant pme ot— albeit there were significant number of conservative mps who did number of conservative mps who ate vote— number of conservative mps who ate vote vttn— number of conservative mps who did vote with the— number of conservative mps who did vote with the motion as put town— did vote with the motion as put down ty— did vote with the motion as put town by tne— did vote with the motion as put down by the leader of the house to epppont— down by the leader of the house to enppont tne— down by the leader of the house to support the report . the to support the report. the gneetton— to support the report. the gneetton t— to support the report. the question i raised and i wrote an anttete— question i raised and i wrote an anttete tn— question i raised and i wrote an anttete tn tne— question i raised and i wrote an article in the sunday telegraph tne— article in the sunday telegraph over the weekend— article in the sunday telegraph over the weekend on sunday, and i over the weekend on sunday, and t eatet— over the weekend on sunday, and t eata tnat— over the weekend on sunday, and t eata tnat t— over the weekend on sunday, and i said that i was— over the weekend on sunday, and i said that i was going to vote agatnet— i said that i was going to vote agatnet ana— i said that i was going to vote against and set— i said that i was going to vote against and set out why and then

pnetty— against and set out why and then pnetty muon— against and set out why and then pnetty moon tne— against and set out why and then pretty much the same wording i teet— pretty much the same wording i need tn— pretty much the same wording i need tn my— pretty much the same wording i used in my speech. but there is aveny— used in my speech. but there is aveny tmpontant— used in my speech. but there is a very important question here, vnten— a very important question here, vnten te— a very important question here, vnten te tnte— a very important question here, which is this, that— a very important question here, which is this, that the actual vome— which is this, that the actual vote on— which is this, that the actual vote on a— which is this, that the actual words of a resolution passed in 1997,— words of a resolution passed in pggp, vnten— words of a resolution passed in 1997, which came— words of a resolution passed in 1997, which came up after eevet— 1997, which came up after several select— 1997, which came up after several select committee reports , is several select committee reports . te tne— several select committee reports , is the resolution— several select committee reports , is the resolution which determines— , is the resolution which determines the manner in which mtntetene— determines the manner in which mtntetene ae— determines the manner in which ministers are treated as accountable— ministers are treated as accountable or otherwise in netatton— accountable or otherwise in netatton to— accountable or otherwise in relation to issues on the floor of relation to issues on the floor on tne — relation to issues on the floor on tne noee— relation to issues on the floor of the house. it's— relation to issues on the floor of the house. it's a democratic gaeetton— of the house. it's a democratic gneetton ana— of the house. it's a democratic question and it's— of the house. it's a democratic question and it's the question of question and it's the question on vnetnen— question and it's the question of whether or— question and it's the question of whether or not— question and it's the question of whether or not you knowingly mteteaa— of whether or not you knowingly mteteaa tne — of whether or not you knowingly mislead the house— of whether or not you knowingly mislead the house of commons. tne— mislead the house of commons. tne vom— mislead the house of commons. tne vont te— mislead the house of commons. the word is knowingly . it the word is knowingly. it aoeen-t— the word is knowingly. it toeen-t eay— the word is knowingly. it doesn't say recklessly. actually nor doesn't say recklessly. actually aoee— doesn't say recklessly. actually toee tt— doesn't say recklessly. actually nor does it actually in the motton— nor does it actually in the motton eay— nor does it actually in the motion say deliberately, but it eaye— motion say deliberately, but it eaye tnovtngty— motion say deliberately, but it says knowingly now knowingly vttn— says knowingly now knowingly carries with it— says knowingly now knowingly carries with it intent . and i carries with it intent. and i nateea— carries with it intent. and i nateea tnte— carries with it intent. and i raised this with— carries with it intent. and i raised this with with the enatnman— raised this with with the chairman of— raised this with with the chairman of the standards commtttee— chairman of the standards committee ,— chairman of the standards committee , who is still the committee, who is still the etanaanae— committee, who is still the standards committee chairman. he neeaea— standards committee chairman. he

recused himself— standards committee chairman. he recused himself as— standards committee chairman. he recused himself as chairman of the privileges— recused himself as chairman of the privileges committee. his te stn— the privileges committee. his name is sir chris— the privileges committee. his name is sir chris bryant. and to his name is sir chris bryant. and to me eneatt— name is sir chris bryant. and to me oneatt .— name is sir chris bryant. and to his credit , during— name is sir chris bryant. and to his credit, during the name is sir chris bryant. and to his credit , during the debate, his credit, during the debate, nnen— his credit, during the debate, vnen tt— his credit, during the debate, vnen tt vae— his credit, during the debate, when it was taking place ontgtnatty— when it was taking place originally on— when it was taking place originally on the 21st of april 20,— originally on the 21st of april 20. 22.— originally on the 21st of april 20. 22. ne— originally on the 21st of april 20, 22, he accepted that tntentton— 20, 22, he accepted that intention was- 20, 22, he accepted that intention was vital . now, if it intention was vital. now, if it eaye— intention was vital. now, if it eaye tnovtngty— intention was vital. now, if it says knowingly in the resolution,— says knowingly in the resolution, and that was unanimously— resolution, and that was unanimously decided after three eeteet— unanimously decided after three select committee— unanimously decided after three select committee inquiries is over. question _ select committee inquiries is over. question of misleading tanttament— over. question of misleading parliament by— over. question of misleading parliament by ministers , then parliament by ministers, then tnat— parliament by ministers, then tnat ana— parliament by ministers, then mat and tt-e— parliament by ministers, then that and it's still— parliament by ministers, then that and it's still in existence. - that and it's still in existence. this hasn't been ovenntttten— existence. this hasn't been overridden .— existence. this hasn't been overridden . this is still every overridden. this is still every day. — overridden. this is still every day. tt-e— overridden. this is still every pay. me gotng— overridden. this is still every day. it's going on— overridden. this is still every day. it's going on right now in the day. it's going on right now in tne noeee— day. it's going on right now in tne home on— day. it's going on right now in the house of commons. any mtnteten— the house of commons. any minister who— the house of commons. any minister who knowingly misleads the minister who knowingly misleads tne noeee— minister who knowingly misleads tne home on— minister who knowingly misleads the house of commons is subject to tnat— the house of commons is subject to mm .— the house of commons is subject to that . resolution— the house of commons is subject to that . resolution and it seems to that. resolution and it seems to that. resolution and it seems to me— to that. resolution and it seems to me veny— to that. resolution and it seems to me very difficult— to that. resolution and it seems to me very difficult to reconcile _ to me very difficult to reconcile that with the situation _ reconcile that with the situation which arose in the ot— situation which arose in the case of boris— situation which arose in the case of boris johnson in this neepeet— case of boris johnson in this

respect, namely— case of boris johnson in this respect, namely that i believe tnat— respect, namely that i believe tnat tne— respect, namely that i believe that the rules— respect, namely that i believe that the rules of— respect, namely that i believe that the rules of natural taettee— that the rules of natural justice have— that the rules of natural justice have to apply . that the rules of natural justice have to apply. bannau i did justice have to apply. bannau i ate mentton— justice have to apply. bannau i did mention in— justice have to apply. bannau i did mention in my speech yeetentay— did mention in my speech yesterday, harriet harman was the yesterday, harriet harman was tne enatnman— yesterday, harriet harman was the chairman of— yesterday, harriet harman was the chairman of the committee of human— the chairman of the committee of human tttgnte— the chairman of the committee of human rights and— the chairman of the committee of human rights and that that has vttntn— human rights and that that has vttntn tt— human rights and that that has vttntn tt a— human rights and that that has within it a whole— human rights and that that has within it a whole range of mattene— within it a whole range of matters relating to fairness of tntate. — matters relating to fairness of tntate. ana — matters relating to fairness of trials. and in— matters relating to fairness of trials. and in fact, there are a g...— trials. and in fact, there are a pme ot— trials. and in fact, there are a number of cases— trials. and in fact, there are a number of cases in front of the tanopean— number of cases in front of the tnnopean count— number of cases in front of the european court right now, one of vnten— european court right now, one of vnten oee— european court right now, one of which comes out— european court right now, one of which comes out of— european court right now, one of which comes out of another case of which comes out of another case on a— which comes out of another case on a nnttten— which comes out of another case of a british up— which comes out of another case of a british mp ,— which comes out of another case of a british mp , emma pattison of a british mp, emma pattison vttn— of a british mp, emma pattison vttn neepeet— of a british mp, emma pattison with respect to— of a british mp, emma pattison with respect to the fairness of mate— with respect to the fairness of tntate ant — with respect to the fairness of trials and things— with respect to the fairness of trials and things like that. so neatty— trials and things like that. so neatty. tnte— trials and things like that. so really, this is— trials and things like that. so really, this is not— trials and things like that. so really, this is not only a very tmpontant— really, this is not only a very important issue,— really, this is not only a very important issue, it's also a veny— important issue, it's also a veny topteat— important issue, it's also a very topical question . and of very topical question. and of course she having been chairman of course she having been chairman ot tnat— course she having been chairman of that committee,— course she having been chairman of that committee, would know atom— of that committee, would know about tne — of that committee, would know about the rules— of that committee, would know about the rules of— of that committee, would know about the rules of natural taettee— about the rules of natural ruettee veny— about the rules of natural justice very well. and part of mm— justice very well. and part of mm to— justice very well. and part of mm to my— justice very well. and part of that to my mind,— justice very well. and part of that to my mind, includes vnetnen— that to my mind, includes vnetnen on— that to my mind, includes whether or not— that to my mind, includes whether or not there should be cross—examination of witnesses , cross—examination of witnesses, the cross—examination of witnesses, tne gaeetton— cross—examination of witnesses, tne gneetton ot— cross—examination of witnesses, the question of whether or not a peeo— the question of whether or not a peeon enoata— the question of whether or not a person should be— the question of whether or not a person should be allowed to be neat— person should be allowed to be neat py— person should be allowed to be heard by counsel.— person should be allowed to be heard by counsel. in other vome— heard by counsel. in other words, with— heard by counsel. in other words, with the - heard by counsel. in other words, with the barrister in

tnte— words, with the barrister in tnte ee— words, with the barrister in this case, david— words, with the barrister in this case, david pannick, aetaatty— this case, david pannick, actually standing there and angntng— actually standing there and angntng tne— actually standing there and arguing the case and cross—examining the witnesses as net.— cross—examining the witnesses as wet. nov— cross—examining the witnesses as wet. nov no— cross—examining the witnesses as well. now now, for— cross—examining the witnesses as well. now now, for reasons which i well. now now, for reasons which t ton-t— well. now now, for reasons which i don't understand,— well. now now, for reasons which i don't understand, neither of tnoee— i don't understand, neither of tnoee tntnge— i don't understand, neither of those things are— i don't understand, neither of those things are allowed to take ptaee— those things are allowed to take ptaee. tt— those things are allowed to take ptaee. tt vome— those things are allowed to take place. it would require leave of the place. it would require leave of tne noee— place. it would require leave of the house, but— place. it would require leave of the house, but as— place. it would require leave of the house, but as i've said in my— the house, but as i've said in my epeeen— the house, but as i've said in my epeeen. t— the house, but as i've said in my speech, i actually think that the committee— my speech, i actually think that the committee could have recommended— the committee could have recommended the other the recommended that the other the otnen— recommended that the other the otnen gaeetton— recommended that the other the other question is— recommended that the other the other question is the fact that the other question is the fact that tne covtp — other question is the fact that the covid regulations themselves were known well— the covid regulations themselves were known well in— the covid regulations themselves were known well in advance of tantygate.— were known well in advance of tantygate. ae— were known well in advance of tantygate. re a— were known well in advance of partygate. as a result of an tngntny— partygate. as a result of an tngptny py— partygate. as a result of an inquiry by the_ partygate. as a result of an inquiry by the justice committee . vnten— inquiry by the justice committee . vnten vae— inquiry by the justice committee . vnten a— inquiry by the justice committee , which was a very— inquiry by the justice committee , which was a very good inquiry enatnea— , which was a very good inquiry enatnea ty— , which was a very good inquiry mated by st— , which was a very good inquiry chaired by sir bob— , which was a very good inquiry chaired by sir bob neill, and ateo— chaired by sir bob neill, and ateo to— chaired by sir bob neill, and also to which— chaired by sir bob neill, and also to which evidence was given by tne — also to which evidence was given by tne no— also to which evidence was given by the now parliamentary commissioner— by the now parliamentary commissioner for standards who attnat— commissioner for standards who at tnat ttme— commissioner for standards who at that time was— commissioner for standards who at that time was counsel to the speaten— at that time was counsel to the speaten .— at that time was counsel to the speaten . ana— at that time was counsel to the speaker. and in— at that time was counsel to the speaker. and in that a very tnetetve— speaker. and in that a very incisive analysis- speaker. and in that a very incisive analysis about the meoenenene— incisive analysis about the incoherence of— incisive analysis about the incoherence of covid regulations and tne— incoherence of covid regulations and the guidance.— incoherence of covid regulations and the guidance. i won't go tnto— and the guidance. i won't go tnto tne— and the guidance. i won't go into the detail,— and the guidance. i won't go into the detail, but in a natenett— into the detail, but in a natenett .— into the detail, but in a nutshell , he- into the detail, but in a nutshell , he says it was almost nutshell, he says it was almost tmpoeetpte— nutshell, he says it was almost impossible for— nutshell, he says it was almost impossible for anyone really to

mov— impossible for anyone really to know vnat— impossible for anyone really to know what was— impossible for anyone really to know what was going on in law . know what was going on in law. now:— know what was going on in law. nov. tn— know what was going on in law. nov. tt tn— know what was going on in law. nov. tt tn tact— know what was going on in law. now, if in fact the— know what was going on in law. now, if in fact the prime mtnteten— now, if in fact the prime minister goes- now, if in fact the prime minister goes to the despatch pov— minister goes to the despatch pox ana— minister goes to the despatch box and makes— minister goes to the despatch box and makes these statements of box and makes these statements on vnten— box and makes these statements on vnten nee— box and makes these statements of which he's accused, but even the of which he's accused, but even tne tavyene— of which he's accused, but even the lawyers didn't— of which he's accused, but even the lawyers didn't understand vnat— the lawyers didn't understand vnat nae— the lawyers didn't understand vnat gotng— the lawyers didn't understand what was going on, i doubt vnetnen— what was going on, i doubt whether even— what was going on, i doubt whether even keir starmer did, to te— whether even keir starmer did, to te mant— whether even keir starmer did, to te tnant .— whether even keir starmer did, to be frank . and— whether even keir starmer did, to be frank . and on top of that to be frank. and on top of that . tnat— to be frank. and on top of that . tnat tne— to be frank. and on top of that , that the persons— to be frank. and on top of that , that the persons who gave him tnat— , that the persons who gave him tnat aavtee— , that the persons who gave him tnat aavtee .— , that the persons who gave him that advice , if— , that the persons who gave him that advice , if they— , that the persons who gave him that advice , if they were that advice, if they were tavyene— that advice, if they were tavyene at— that advice, if they were lawyers at all,- that advice, if they were lawyers at all, were never tnoagnt— lawyers at all, were never brought before _ lawyers at all, were never brought before the committee to gtve— brought before the committee to gtve evteanee— brought before the committee to give evidence. and— brought before the committee to give evidence. and it could have teen— give evidence. and it could have been cross—examined. for example , if been cross—examined. for example . tt my— been cross—examined. for example . tt my epggeettone— been cross—examined. for example , if my suggestions had been aanenea— , if my suggestions had been attnenea to. — , if my suggestions had been adhered to. and— , if my suggestions had been adhered to. and therefore, for all adhered to. and therefore, for at tneee— adhered to. and therefore, for all these different reasons, he gutte— all these different reasons, he gntte eteanty— all these different reasons, he quite clearly was— all these different reasons, he quite clearly was not in my judgement— quite clearly was not in my judgement, easy or properly tnovtngty— judgement, easy or properly knowingly misleading the house of knowingly misleading the house ot commone— knowingly misleading the house of commons. that's the main. oh okay. — of commons. that's the main. oh okay. mant— of commons. that's the main. oh okay. tnant yea.— of commons. that's the main. oh okay. thank you, bill.- of commons. that's the main. oh okay. 1 okay. thank you, bill. sir. bill cash tom okay. 1 bill cash tom harwood, sir. one of bill cash tom harwood, sir. one on tne— bill cash tom harwood, sir. one on tne nev— bill cash tom harwood, sir. one on tne tev to— bill cash tom harwood, sir. one of the few to vote. _ bill cash tom harwood, sir. one of the few to vote. that's the potnt— of the few to vote. that's the potnt. ten-t— of the few to vote. that's the point, isn't it?— of the few to vote. that's the point, isn't it? i— of the few to vote. that's the point, isn't it? i mean, they enangea— point, isn't it? i mean, they enangea tne— point, isn't it? i mean, they changed the sort of what truth tevet— changed the sort of what truth tevet tney— changed the sort of what truth level they have— changed the sort of what truth level they have to reach. they

matte— level they have to reach. they matte tt— level they have to reach. they made it easier— level they have to reach. they made it easier to— level they have to reach. they made it easier to find him gnttty. — made it easier to find him gnttty. tney— made it easier to find him guilty. "th c made it easier to find him guilty. c c c guilty. they certainly did. although in the end it didn't really matter. no they found them. so in their view, knowingly and recklessly misled. so. so, yes, the terms of the of the investigation were were changed. the bar was lowered, and that raised a lot of suspicion about the motives and perhaps the predetermined end outcome of the whole affair . but outcome of the whole affair. but but in the end, that was sort of immaterial to that outcome because both of those two tests were met. i think perhaps aukus the views of the chair, which had been tweeted before. and i think we've got a cc : andi think we've got a problem with youn— think we've got a problem with yonn youn— think we've got a problem with yonn yonn nme— think we've got a problem with your your mic. you— think we've got a problem with your your mic. you know what i tntnttng— your your mic. you know what i was thinking listening to bill caen— was thinking listening to bill caen tnee— was thinking listening to bill cash there, andrew, is he's neatty— cash there, andrew, is he's really thought— cash there, andrew, is he's really thought about this. oh yean. — really thought about this. oh yean. .neatty— really thought about this. oh yeah. really thought about yeah. he's really thought about this yeah. he's really thought about tne-ot— yeah. he's really thought about this-of compound- yeah. he's really thought about this of compound thinking. this a lot of compound thinking. wnat— this a lot of compound thinking. wnat ae— this a lot of compound thinking. what are implications of what are the implications of mea— what are the implications of tntee-ane— what are the implications of this?-are the- what are the implications of this? are the legals, what this? what are the legals, what are parliamentary? and are the parliamentary? and i teet— are the parliamentary? and i teet ttte— are the parliamentary? and i feel like .300_ are the parliamentary? and i feel like 300 odd others are the parliamentary? and i feel went, 300 odd others are the parliamentary? and i feel went, we 00 odd others are the parliamentary? and i feelwent, we don't odd others are the parliamentary? and i feelwent, we don't like d others are the parliamentary? and i feelwent, we don't like borisars just went, we don't like boris net.— just went, we don't like boris ttetlagnee. — just went, we don't like boris tick.-agree. well,- just went, we don't like boris tick. agree. fiancee c just went, we don't like boris tick. agree. epic“ c c tick. we agree. well, it was it was a tribal thing. i mean, the tories against him

tories who voted against him couldn't including couldn't stand him, including some of the cabinet ministers, including penny mordaunt, the leader who wants leader of the commons, who wants to be next tory leader. i'm not sure sticking the knife in boris like at despatch box like that at the despatch box will prospects as being will help her prospects as being tory to tory leader. and we're going to go back to tom. but still to come, should the police ramp up, stop search to help keep stop and search to help keep weapons off the streets? gb news presenter akua will presenter nana akua will give her

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news. channel welcome back. tnant— news. channel welcome back. tnant yon— news. channel welcome back. tnant yon ton— news. channel welcome back. thank you for joining- welcome back. thank you forjoining us. some thank you for joining us. some tneattng— thank you for joining us. some breaking news— thank you for joining us. some breaking news now . controversial breaking news now. controversial eoetat— breaking news now. controversial eoetat meata— breaking news now. controversial social media star— breaking news now. controversial social media star andrew tate nae— social media star andrew tate nae teen— social media star andrew tate has been charged— social media star andrew tate has been charged with rape. human— has been charged with rape. human trafficking and forming onganteea— human trafficking and forming organised crime— human trafficking and forming organised crime groups to eevaatty— organised crime groups to sexually exploit women. that's in sexually exploit women. that's tn ttomanta— sexually exploit women. that's tn ttomanta .— sexually exploit women. that's in romania. breaking sexually exploit women. that's in romania . breaking news. in romania. breaking news. anten— in romania. breaking news. ananev tate— in romania. breaking news. andrew tate has been charged vttn— andrew tate has been charged vttn nape.— andrew tate has been charged with rape, human— andrew tate has been charged with rape, human trafficking and tonmtng— with rape, human trafficking and forming organised crime groups . forming organised crime groups. ateotatety— forming organised crime groups. absolutely fascinating. _ forming organised crime groups. absolutely fascinating. now- forming organised crime groups. absolutely fascinating. now the home secretary, she's been calling on the police. she's been calling them to do a lot of things, but to ramp up the use of stop and search. but critics say of stop and search. but critics eay tnat— of stop and search. but critics eay tnat tt— cc c but critics say that it disproportionately tangete— say that it disproportionately targets black— say that it disproportionately targets black and ethnic mtnontty— targets black and ethnic minority communities. and the govemmem— minority communities. and the government's data shows that government's own data shows that ttaet— government's own data shows that mack-ane— government's own data shows that black- are seven _ government's own data shows that black are seven times black people are seven times move-to— black people are seven times more _to.stopped. more likely to be stopped eompanea— more likely to be stopped compared with white people. vtett.— compared with white people. vtett—to- compared with white people. vtett—to oun- compared with white people. well,_to our very| well, let's speak to our very nana— well, let's speak to our very own nana-very- well, let's speak to our very own nana very personal. own nana akua very personal. tnte— own nana akua very personal. tnte tn— own nana akua very personal. tnte tn my— own nana akua very personal. tnte tn my ovm— own nana akua very personal. this in my own newspaper, today's daily if you can today's daily mail. if you can see full page, i mean, you obviously feel very strongly about the headline, i've about this. the headline, i've been stopped and searched. but like mothers black like many mothers of black teenagers, know it saves teenagers, i know it saves lives. aukus. ithink teenagers, i know it saves lives. aukus. i think it lives. yeah aukus. i think it has to lives. yeah aukus. i think it nae to te— lives. yeah aukus. i think it has to be done.— lives. yeah aukus. i think it has to be done. it's- lives. yeah aukus. i think it has to be done. it's a- has to be done. it's a neeeeetty. — has to be done. it's a necessity. it- has to be done. it's a necessity. it will mean that

tnene— necessity. it will mean that tnene vttt— necessity. it will mean that there will be— necessity. it will mean that there will be police on the there will be more police on the etneete— there will be more police on the streets, . starters. _ there will be more police on the streets, . starters. - if - there will be more police on the streets, starters. if we streets, for starters. and if we toot— streets, for starters. and if we look- statistics, - streets, for starters. and if we look - statistics, so - streets, for starters. and if we look statistics, so out look at the statistics, so out of look at the statistics, so out on tne— look at the statistics, so out on tne 99— look at the statistics, so out of the 99 murders that happened vttn— of the 99 murders that happened with children— of the 99 murders that happened with children _25,- of the 99 murders that happened with children 25, i'll with children under 25, i'll catt— with children under 25, i'll call-children- with children under 25, i'll call children because they call them children because they are call them children because they ave-muon— call them children because they ave-meet young- call them children because they are much young people , 31 are pretty much young people, 31 of are pretty much young people, 31 ot-vene— are pretty much young people, 31 ot-vene ptaet— are pretty much young people, 31 of-were black .— are pretty much young people, 31 of-were black . and- are pretty much young people, 31 of were black . and whilst of them were black. and whilst tnat— of them were black. and whilst tnat te— of them were black. and whilst tnat te tnat— of them were black. and whilst that is that means— of them were black. and whilst that is that means the majority of that is that means the majority on men— that is that means the majority on men ae— that is that means the majority of them are white,— that is that means the majority of them are white, it's disproportion- of them are white, it's disproportion because actually ptaet— disproportion because actually ptaet peopte— disproportion because actually black people make only 4% of the popntatton— black people make only 4% of the popptatton tn— black people make only 4% of the population in this— black people make only 4% of the population in this country. black people make only 4% of the population in this country . and population in this country. and i, population in this country. and ., yon— population in this country. and ., yon mow.— population in this country. and ., you know. t— population in this country. and i, you know, i used to lecture ana— i, you know, i used to lecture and go— i, you know, i used to lecture and go anoma— i, you know, i used to lecture and go around to— i, you know, i used to lecture and go around to schools all anoma— and go around to schools all anonna tne— and go around to schools all around the country and in panttentan— around the country and in particular those in london and tatt— particular those in london and tatt to— particular those in london and tatt to tote— particular those in london and talk to lots of— particular those in london and talk to lots of youths and many of talk to lots of youths and many on men— talk to lots of youths and many on men vene— talk to lots of youths and many of them were black, especially in of them were black, especially tn sontn— of them were black, especially in south london— of them were black, especially in south london in areas like mat.— in south london in areas like ttat—appanenti in south london in areas like that._apparent toi in south london in areas like. that._apparent to me that. and it was apparent to me tnat— that. and it was apparent to me tnat-vae— that. and it was apparent to me tnat-vae a— that. and it was apparent to me that-was a fear- that. and it was apparent to me that was a fear within that there was a fear within tnoee— that there was a fear within tnoee yontne— that there was a fear within those youths and that there was a eon— those youths and that there was a eont ot— those youths and that there was a eont on an— those youths and that there was a sort of an aggression . and i a sort of an aggression. and i et— a sort of an aggression. and i tett teantnt— a sort of an aggression. and i felt fearful for— a sort of an aggression. and i felt fearful for them. and i wont— felt fearful for them. and i wont t— felt fearful for them. and i wont t kept— felt fearful for them. and i would i kept imploring to them tnat— would i kept imploring to them tnat aetnatty— would i kept imploring to them that actually, if— would i kept imploring to them that actually, if you focus and petteve— that actually, if you focus and tetteve tn— that actually, if you focus and believe in yourself, you can aenteve. — believe in yourself, you can achieve. and— believe in yourself, you can achieve. and i— believe in yourself, you can achieve. and i would go and be tatt— achieve. and i would go and be tatt atont— achieve. and i would go and be talk about motivation and things like talk about motivation and things ttte tnte. — talk about motivation and things ttte tnte. ent— talk about motivation and things like this. but what— talk about motivation and things like this. but what worries me nnen— like this. but what worries me vnen t— like this. but what worries me vnen t toot— like this. but what worries me when i look at— like this. but what worries me when i look at this is because in when i look at this is because tn tne— when i look at this is because tn tne ene.— when i look at this is because in the end, it's— when i look at this is because in the end, it's a— when i look at this is because in the end, it's a lot of black on bug,— in the end, it's a lot of black on black, and— in the end, it's a lot of black on black, and that is where it's

tnet— on black, and that is where it's tnet t— on black, and that is where it's rnet t tntnt— on black, and that is where it's rnet t mm a— on black, and that is where it's just i think a lot— on black, and that is where it's just i think a lot of the communities- just i think a lot of the communities and i say black eommnntty— communities and i say black community, but— communities and i say black community, but when i say that, i community, but when i say that, t mean— community, but when i say that, t tn— community, but when i say that, t tt yon— community, but when i say that, i mean if you live— community, but when i say that, i mean if you live in an area tnat— i mean if you live in an area tnat te— i mean if you live in an area that is predominantly black and you that is predominantly black and yon ae— that is predominantly black and yon ptaet— that is predominantly black and you are black within it, i think a tot— you are black within it, i think a tot ot— you are black within it, i think a tot ot tne— you are black within it, i think a lot of the people within those eommnntttee— a lot of the people within those communities must— a lot of the people within those communities must work together peanee— communities must work together because-a serious- communities must work together because a serious issue because this is a serious issue tnat-e— because this is a serious issue that's affecting— because this is a serious issue that's affecting young that's affecting the young peopte—aotngi that's affecting the young people—doing out people and they're doing it out of people and they're doing it out ot-tntnt— people and they're doing it out ot-tntnt tne— people and they're doing it out of think the police have of fear. i think the police have a—ton— of fear. i think the police have a—ton ae- of fear. i think the police have a_for as well. i of fear. i think the police havei a_for as well. but a lot to answer for as well. but i a lot to answer for as well. but t mtnt— a lot to answer for as well. but t tntnt etop— a lot to answer for as well. but i think stop-search- a lot to answer for as well. but i think stop search is an i think stop and search is an apeotnte— i think stop and search is an absolute must,— i think stop and search is an absolute must, but it has to be none— absolute must, but it has to be tone vttn— absolute must, but it has to be done with respect. _ absolute must, but it has to be done with respect. yeah. ' c done with respect. yeah. and pennape— done with respect. yeah. and perhaps intelligence, too. perhaps with intelligence, too. you've searched you've been stopped and searched as graphically in as you describe graphically in the paper, the mail today. tell us that. well, this was us about that. well, this was eomepoay— us about that. well, this was somebody-met,- c.5 well, this was somebody met, actually. somebody i'd met, actually. vtett.— somebody i'd met, actually. vtett-etant- somebody i'd met, actually. well,_start with. well, listen, i'll start with mat.— well, listen, i'll start with mat-tnte- well, listen, i'll start with that._this. thisl well, listen, i'll start with. that._this. this used that. but i met this. this used toltnte— that. but i met this. this used toltnte ptaee— that. but i met this. this used to.this place in— that. but i met this. this used to this place in london to be this place in london eatet— to be this place in london called-bar.- to be this place in london called-bar. i- to be this place in london called bar. i don't to be this place in london- called-bar. i don't know called the zoo bar. i don't know if called the zoo bar. i don't know tt yon— called the zoo bar. i don't know tt yon even— called the zoo bar. i don't know if you ever knew— called the zoo bar. i don't know if you ever knew it.— called the zoo bar. i don't know if you ever knew it. it was sort of if you ever knew it. it was sort ot tn— if you ever knew it. it was sort ot tn eentnat— if you ever knew it. it was sort of in central london, leicester senate.— of in central london, leicester sgnane. on.— of in central london, leicester square. oh, yeah.— of in central london, leicester square. oh, yeah. and it's funny teanee— square. oh, yeah. and it's funny teeanee—eay- square. oh, yeah. and it's funnyi peeanee—eay-go because you'd always say you go up because you'd always say you go np-ana— because you'd always say you go np-ana yon— because you'd always say you go np-ana yon ptet— because you'd always say you go np-ana yon ptet np- up there and you pick up an antmat— up there and you pick up an animal because— up there and you pick up an- animal because-anyway. animal because i wasn't anyway. no animal because i wasn't anyway. to-met— animal because i wasn't anyway. to-met tnte— animal because i wasn't anyway. no-met this lovely- animal because i wasn't anyway. no met this lovely guy no but i met this lovely guy tnee— no but i met this lovely guy mete-vett— no but i met this lovely guy there we'd talking no but i met this lovely guy. there .we'd _talking for there and we'd been talking for alana— there and we'd been talking for alana tnte— there and we'd been talking for a.and this was— there and we'd been talking for a.and this was so- there and we'd been talking for a and this was so he came to a bit and this was so he came to pot— a bit and this was so he came to ptet-np.— a bit and this was so he came to ptet-np. tt— a bit and this was so he came to ptet-np. tt nae— a bit and this was so he came to pick-up. it was our- a bit and this was so he came to pick up. it was our first pick me up. it was our first date. — pick me up. it was our first date. t— pick me up. it was our first date. i lived— pick me up. it was our first date. i lived in— pick me up. it was our first date. i lived in north london eon— date. i lived in north london eont ot— date. i lived in north london eont ot avea— date. i lived in north london sort of area around about the

eon— sort of area around about the eon-monon— sort of area around about the sort-crouch end- sort of area around about the sort crouch end area. he sort of crouch end area. he ptetea— sort of crouch end area. he ptetea-np— sort of crouch end area. he pteten-nplan- sort of crouch end area. he picked up an agreed picked me up at an agreed toeatton— picked me up at an agreed location somewhere that i knew, but location somewhere that i knew, tnt-my— location somewhere that i knew, tnt-my-got- location somewhere that i knew, tnt-my-got tn| but nearer to my home, got in his but nearer to my home, got in me — but nearer to my home, got in me vve— but nearer to my home, got in his car. we were— but nearer to my home, got in his car. we were driving along atten— his car. we were driving along atten anon.— his car. we were driving along after about, you— his car. we were driving along after about, you know, i'd been antvtng— after about, you know, i'd been antvtng-ton— after about, you know, i'd been driving _for maybe - after about, you know, i'd been driving for maybe about driving along for maybe about a me — driving along for maybe about a me tne— driving along for maybe about a mile. the-lights- driving along for maybe about a mile. the lights were on mile. the blue lights were on ana— mile. the blue lights were on analvae— mile. the blue lights were on andeas like,— mile. the blue lights were on and was like, what? and i was like, what? the pottee— and i was like, what? the pottee-t— and i was like, what? the police. i thought, what have police. and i thought, what have i police. and i thought, what have t—tntee- police. and i thought, what have t—tntee ton- i got here? what's this? you move— i got here? what's this? you know? _thought,- i got here? what's this? you know? thought, is that know? so i, i thought, is that for know? so i, i thought, is that ton nee— know? so i, i thought, is that ton nee ana— know? so i, i thought, is that for us? and it— know? so i, i thought, is that for us? and it appeared it was. so for us? and it appeared it was. so ve— for us? and it appeared it was. so we pnttea— for us? and it appeared it was. so we pulled over— for us? and it appeared it was. so we pulled over and the police ottteen— so we pulled over and the police ottteen one— so we pulled over and the police officer one came— so we pulled over and the police officer one came out, then the otnen— officer one came out, then the otnen came— officer one came out, then the other came out— officer one came out, then the other came out either of other came out either side of tne— other came out either side of tne-etantea- other came out either side of the started asking the car and started asking gneettone— the car and started asking questions—to. the car and started asking questions—to out questions and we had to get out of questions and we had to get out on tne— questions and we had to get out on tne-t— questions and we had to get out on tne-t got— questions and we had to get out of the-i got out— questions and we had to get out of the-i got out of- questions and we had to get out of the i got out of the of the car. i got out of the ne— of the car. i got out of the me got— of the car. i got out of the car. he got out— of the car. i got out of the car. he got out of the car and it car. he got out of the car and tt vae— car. he got out of the car and tt onty— car. he got out of the car and tt onty ae— car. he got out of the car and it was only as the— car. he got out of the car and it was only as the questioning vent— it was only as the questioning vent on— it was only as the questioning vent on ma— it was only as the questioning went on that i— it was only as the questioning went on that i realised because i went on that i realised because t — went on that i realised because i was listening— went on that i realised because i was listening and he was aettng— i was listening and he was aettng me— i was listening and he was asking me about me. then he asking me about me. and then he etantea— asking me about me. and then he etantea-otnen— asking me about me. and then he started-other one— asking me about me. and then he started other one him started the other one asked him atont— started the other one asked him anon-yon— started the other one asked him atont-yon mov- started the other one asked him about you know this young about how do you know this young taaye—tnome- about how do you know this young lady?_from? what's. lady? where is she from? what's her lady? where is she from? what's net—ana— lady? where is she from? what's net—ana t— lady? where is she from? what's her—and i thought,l her last name? and i thought, hey.— her last name? and i thought, ney. ana— her last name? and i thought, ney. ana tt— her last name? and i thought, hey. and it was,— her last name? and i thought, hey. and it was, you know, when someone's questions. someone's asking questions. and gnannatty—tol gradually the penny started to top— gradually the penny started to atop—tney- gradually the penny started to atop—tney tntnti drop off, i thought, they think i'm drop off, i thought, they think t-m .and— drop off, i thought, they think t-m .and vvas— drop off, i thought, they think i'm .and was your- drop off, i thought, they think i'm .and was your was. drop off, i thought, they think i'm a. and was your was your. and was was your was your and was he was your was your friend. was he a black guy as well? he was white. and the tntng— well? he was white. and the tntng te— well? he was white. and the tntng te te— well? he was white. and the tntng te te tt— , he was white. and the thing is, is it perfectly you mov— thing is, is it perfectly you know nee— thing is, is it perfectly you know me a— thing is, is it perfectly you know he's a perfectly it was a

not— know he's a perfectly it was a not an— know he's a perfectly it was a not an expensive— know he's a perfectly it was a not an expensive car. he wasn't antvtng— not an expensive car. he wasn't driving erratically. _ not an expensive car. he wasn't driving erratically. and it was it driving erratically. and it was tt—oaaeet- it was just the oddest feeling nnen— it was just the oddest feeling when-because- it was just the oddest feeling when-becauseiii it was just the oddest feeling. when-becauseii was when suddenly because as i was aotng— when suddenly because as i was gotng-nae— when suddenly because as i was doing-was being— when suddenly because as i was doing was being very you doing it, i was being very you know.— doing it, i was being very you know. ana— doing it, i was being very you know. and t— doing it, i was being very you know, and i looked i looked tne— know, and i looked i looked t— know, and i looked i looked t natt— know, and i looked i looked nice. i had a— know, and i looked i looked nice. i had a little see through nnmepn— nice. i had a little see through nnmen-tent.— nice. i had a little see through number-but, you- nice. i had a little see through number but, you know, but number on, but, you know, but i etttt— number on, but, you know, but i etttt tnat— number on, but, you know, but i still that doesn't— number on, but, you know, but i still that doesn't make me a. ent— still that doesn't make me a. tent-eo— still that doesn't make me a. nnt-eo-tn- still that doesn't make me a. nnt-eo-tn a- still that doesn't make me a. nnt-eo-tn a vayi but it was so funny in a way tnat— but it was so funny in a way tnat tney— but it was so funny in a way that they stopped, but they were pottte — that they stopped, but they were pottte _opttgea- polite and i'd obliged because aetnatty— polite and i'd obliged because actually-other- actually only the other day i etoppea— actually only the other day i was stopped in— actually only the other day i was stopped in a— actually only the other day i was stopped in a chemist as i teavtng— was stopped in a chemist as i was leaving because i'd bought my ettneane— was leaving because i'd bought my skincare range— was leaving because i'd bought my skincare range that i always tony.— my skincare range that i always pny.|epena— my skincare range that i always pny.|epenn gntte— my skincare range that i always buy.ispend quite a— my skincare range that i always buy. spend quite a bit it. buy. i spend quite a bit on it. ana— buy. i spend quite a bit on it. ana-vent— buy. i spend quite a bit on it. and-went-the- buy. i spend quite a bit on it. and .went-the tag. buy. i spend quite a bit on it. and went the tag went and as i went out, the tag went off and as i went out, the tag went ott-tnte— and as i went out, the tag went ott-tnte ttme— and as i went out, the tag went off-this time the- and as i went out, the tag went off this time the person who off and this time the person who eon— off and this time the person who eont ot— off and this time the person who eont ot etantea— off and this time the person who sort of started to— off and this time the person who sort of started to reprimand me evtnemety— sort of started to reprimand me was extremely rude and he was extremely rude and as he toot— was extremely rude and as he toot-none.- was extremely rude and as he toot-etone. t- was extremely rude and as he took-store, i said,i took me in the store, i said, non-t— took me in the store, i said, non-t even— took me in the store, i said, don't ever speak— took me in the store, i said, don't ever speak to me like that agatn. — don't ever speak to me like that agatn. ana— don't ever speak to me like that agatn. ana eo— don't ever speak to me like that again. and so understand again. and so i can understand tnat— again. and so i can understand tnat tn— again. and so i can understand tnat tt-ane— again. and so i can understand that if are stopped and that if you are stopped and eeanenea— that if you are stopped and searched someone is that if you are stopped and searched-someone is to searched and someone is rude to yo..— searched and someone is rude to yon tt— searched and someone is rude to yon tt vttt— searched and someone is rude to yon. tt vtn tntng— searched and someone is rude to you, it will bring out the other etne— you, it will bring out the other etae ot— you, it will bring out the other etae ot yon. — you, it will bring out the other etne ot yon. so— you, it will bring out the other side of you. so i— you, it will bring out the other side of you. so i think the pottee— side of you. so i think the pope tney— side of you. so i think the police, they learn side of you. so i think the. police, they-learn to side of you. so i think the- police, they-learn to do police, they need to learn to do it police, they need to learn to do tt—nov— police, they need to learn to do tt—nov no— police, they need to learn to do tt—nov no yon- police, they need to learn to do it_how do you talk. police, they need to learn to doi it_how do you talk to it properly. how do you talk to if you've if you're a mum with black boys, how do you talk to them the stop and them about that? the stop and search do you say, search scenario, do you say, look, cool? it might look, keep your cool? it might be could be the victim be that you could be the victim of this, so you need to support

the police because that's a difficult conversation have, difficult conversation to have, isn't is a difficult isn't it? it is a difficult conversation, - i - conversation, but i think i mtnt— conversation, but i think i tntnt tn— conversation, but i think i tntnt tt yon— conversation, but i think i think if you bring up a child vttn— think if you bring up a child with respect,— think if you bring up a child with respect, then will with respect, then he will tenave— with respect, then he will tenavela— with respect, then he will behave a respectful manner. behave in a respectful manner. i ton-t— behave in a respectful manner. i ton-t-tntnt— behave in a respectful manner. i ton-t-tntnt yon— behave in a respectful manner. i don't think you would need don't even think you would need to—eay— don't even think you would need to—eayltnat- to specifically say in that moment.— to specifically say in that incident,-i- to specifically say in that incident, i would say have incident, but i would say have neepeet— incident, but i would say have neepeetltne— incident, but i would say have respect-the police - incident, but i would say have respect the police is what respect for the police is what i wont— respect for the police is what i none-ent— respect for the police is what i vonta-nnt t— respect for the police is what i would but i wouldn't would say. but i wouldn't tentty— would say. but i wouldn't terrify black— would say. but i wouldn't terrify black boys i terrify black boys because i tntnt— terrify black boys because i tntnt-tt— terrify black boys because i tntnt-ttlte- terrify black boys because i think-itiis they. terrify black boys because i think it is they also think what it is, is they also mtetnnet— think what it is, is they also mistrust-police- think what it is, is they also mistrust police with mistrust the police with that conversation. _ conversation. that comes a level tnat— conversation. that comes a level mat-teet— conversation. that comes a level that-feel-don't. that they may feel they don't tnnet— that they may feel they don't tnnet tne — that they may feel they don't trust the - and - that they may feel they don't trust the and they'll be trust the police and they'll be ttte— trust the police and they'll be tne-ane— trust the police and they'll be ttte-ane yon— trust the police and they'll be like, are you saying that? like, why are you saying that? ton— like, why are you saying that? von tnov. — like, why are you saying that? you know, and— like, why are you saying that? you know, and then might you know, and then they might tney— you know, and then they might tney-penave — you know, and then they might they-behave in- you know, and then they might they-behave in a- you know, and then they might they behave in a way that they might behave in a way that wont— would be inappropriate. do you get—tnm- would be inappropriate. do you get—mom peoptei get a lot of abuse from people, if want to in the black if you want to say, in the black community taking your stance community for taking your stance on you on stop and search because you do so strongly? do support it so strongly? yeah, but i don't yeah, sometimes. but i don't neatty— yeah, sometimes. but i don't neatty-t— yeah, sometimes. but i don't neatty-t ton-t- yeah, sometimes. but i don't really i don't care. really care. i don't care. i mov— really care. i don't care. i know vnat— really care. i don't care. i know what i— really care. i don't care. i know what i know that there's know what i know is that there's a-ptaet— know what i know is that there's a-ttaet on— know what i know is that there's a-black on black- know what i know is that there's a black on black crime. a lot of black on black crime. it a lot of black on black crime. tt te— a lot of black on black crime. it is disproportionate. so it is a neattette— it is disproportionate. so it is a realistic supposition that the pottee— police would disproportionately etop— stop and search black youths, eepeetatty— stop and search black youths, eepeetattyiana— stop and search black youths, especiallyiand to— stop and search black youths, especially and to find some of black area, and to find some of tneee— black area, and to find some of these statistics— black area, and to find some of these statistics quite irritating, _ these statistics quite irritating, actually, when they say,— irritating, actually, when they eay—tttetyl irritating, actually, when they eay—tttety toi say, oh, you're more likely to do say, oh, you're more likely to to—ptaet- say, oh, you're more likely to do_black and. do this if you're black and yone— do this if you're black and you're. depends do this if you're black and- you're.-depends where you're. well, it depends where you— you are. it depends whether etattettee— you are. it depends whether statistics-so - you are. it depends whether statistics so think. statistics as well. so i think. ent— statistics as well. so i think. nnt-ovenatt- statistics as well. so i think.i but-overall-isn't

but it's an overall thing, isn't it? but it's an overall thing, isn't tte-tt— but it's an overall thing, isn't tte-tt tnene- but it's an overall thing, isn't it?-if there is- but it's an overall thing, isn't it?-if there is a- it? because if there is a eommnntty— it? because if there is a community-a- it? because if there is a community a white it? because if there is a— community-a white community community that a white community vnene— community that a white community vtee—ot— community that a white community where—of violence- where there is a lot of violence ana— where there is a lot of violence ant-enme— where there is a lot of violence and-crime, then- where there is a lot of violence and crime, then the and knife crime, then the marontty— and knife crime, then the marontty ot— and knife crime, then the majority of people will stop and en— majority of people will stop and eeanen—t- search will be white. and i mtnt— search will be white. and i think that's— search will be white. and i think that's why suella said epneaa—to- think that's why suella said- spread _to.police spread that message to 43 police atetntete—tnet- districts rather than just tonaon— london, because actually knife enme— london, because actually knife entme—att- london, because actually knife crime—all over. london, because actually knifei crime—all over the crime has exploded all over the eonntny—ana- country. it's awful. and it's not— country. it's awful. and it's not predominantly, it's not not just predominantly, it's not met— not just predominantly, it's not tnet—tn- just black people, but in tonton— just black people, but in london. yes,— just black people, but in london. yes, it- just black people, but in london. yes, it is. okay. thank you, and want to you, nana. and if you want to read article, you can read nana's article, you can find , of course. and find it online, of course. and of course, she has her- of course, she has her fabulous enov— of course, she has her fabulous show-saturday— of course, she has her fabulous show saturday and sunday, gb show on saturday and sunday, gb neve— news three till six i many ttmee— news three till six i many times. right _ news three till six i many times. right cc c news three till six i many- times. right still to come, more stories newspapers stories from the newspapers with nigel and tonia buxton nigel nelson and tonia buxton after your morning's with after your morning's news with tatiana . beth. thank you very tatiana. beth. thank you very mnem— tatiana. beth. thank you very mnen ana— tatiana. beth. thank you very much and good— thank you very much and good morning. this is the much and good morning. this is tne tateet— much and good morning. this is the latest from _ much and good morning. this is the latest from the— much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom, etanttng— the latest from the newsroom, etanttng vttn— the latest from the newsroom, starting with some breaking news. controversial social media tnttneneen— news. controversial social media influencer andrew _ news. controversial social media influencer andrew tate has been enangea— influencer andrew tate has been enangea vttn— influencer andrew tate has been charged with rape— influencer andrew tate has been charged with rape and human tnatttettng— charged with rape and human tnatttettng .— charged with rape and human trafficking . he's— charged with rape and human trafficking . he's charged with trafficking. he's charged with tonmtng— trafficking. he's charged with tonmtng an— trafficking. he's charged with forming an organised crime group to eevnatty— forming an organised crime group to sexually exploit— forming an organised crime group to sexually exploit women. the tate— to sexually exploit women. the tate brothers— to sexually exploit women. the tate brothers were _ to sexually exploit women. the tate brothers were first anneetea— tate brothers were first arrested at _ tate brothers were first arrested at their bucharest home

in arrested at their bucharest home tn peeempen— arrested at their bucharest home in december. in— arrested at their bucharest home in december. in march , they were in december. in march, they were moved— in december. in march, they were moved nom— in december. in march, they were moved from custody to house aeet— moved from custody to house arrest following _ moved from custody to house arrest following a ruling by ttomantan— arrest following a ruling by romanian judge. they both deny the romanian judge. they both deny tne enangee— romanian judge. they both deny tne enangee .— romanian judge. they both deny the charges . five— romanian judge. they both deny the charges . five people on the charges. five people on tona— the charges. five people on boat a— the charges. five people on board a missing— the charges. five people on board a missing submersible tonntet— board a missing submersible tourist vessel— board a missing submersible tourist vessel to— board a missing submersible tourist vessel to the titanic entpvneet— tourist vessel to the titanic entpvneet tn— tourist vessel to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic ocean nave — shipwreck in the atlantic ocean have approximately two days of oxygen— have approximately two days of oxygen tent. — have approximately two days of oxygen left. rescue teams eonttnne— oxygen left. rescue teams continue to _ oxygen left. rescue teams continue to search for a british tttttonatne— continue to search for a british billionaire who— continue to search for a british billionaire who on— continue to search for a british billionaire who on board as well as billionaire who on board as well ae a tatte— billionaire who on board as well as a father and— billionaire who on board as well as a father and son. shahzada pavooa— as a father and son. shahzada pavooa ana— as a father and son. shahzada dawood and suleiman has been eonttnmea— dawood and suleiman has been eonttnmea .— dawood and suleiman has been confirmed . captain hamish confirmed. captain hamish naming.— confirmed. captain hamish nanatng. a— confirmed. captain hamish harding, a pilot who owns an avtatton— harding, a pilot who owns an aviation company, wrote on eoetat— aviation company, wrote on eoetat menta— aviation company, wrote on social media, saying he would be tattng— social media, saying he would be tattng pant— social media, saying he would be tattng pant tn— social media, saying he would be taking part in the— social media, saying he would be taking part in the dive. veeteaay.— taking part in the dive. yesterday, the coastguard lost contact— yesterday, the coastguard lost contact vttn— yesterday, the coastguard lost contact with the _ yesterday, the coastguard lost contact with the vessel around nonn— contact with the vessel around nonn ana— contact with the vessel around one hour and 45— contact with the vessel around one hour and 45 minutes into the two nonn— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to— one hour and 45 minutes into the two hour descent to the titanic ette. — two hour descent to the titanic site. oceanographer dr. simon novatt— site. oceanographer dr. simon novatt eaye— site. oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the— site. oceanographer dr. simon boxall says the situation is ettteat. — boxall says the situation is critical. they're- boxall says the situation is critical. they're in- boxall says the situation is critical. "th 1c; " cg critical. they're in a very difficult situation here. they're sitting in four kilometres, 13,000ft of water. that's the limit of the sub's capability anyway , they're in a capability anyway, they're in a very deep part of the ocean.

they're a long way from the coast as well. so getting any sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time. sort of rescue attempt to them is going to take time . and there is going to take time. and there are very few vessels that are capable of going to those sorts of . mps have voted to of depths. mps have voted to appnove— of depths. mps have voted to appnove tne— of depths. mps have voted to approve the report,- : mps have voted to approve the report, which found none— approve the report, which found boris johnson— approve the report, which found boris johnson deliberately mtetea— boris johnson deliberately misled parliament over lockdown panttee— misled parliament over lockdown panttee vttn— misled parliament over lockdown panttee mm a— misled parliament over lockdown parties with a majority of 347. tne — parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions— parties with a majority of 347. the sanctions planned against the the sanctions planned against tne toe— the sanctions planned against the former prime— the sanctions planned against the former prime minister tnetnae— the former prime minister include banning him from having a patt— include banning him from having a patn to— include banning him from having a path to access— include banning him from having a path to access parliament. the ttteat— a path to access parliament. the liberal democrats— a path to access parliament. the liberal democrats have accused the liberal democrats have accused tne tnme— liberal democrats have accused the prime minister— liberal democrats have accused the prime minister of rishi snnat— the prime minister of rishi snnat ot— the prime minister of rishi sunak of being too weak to even tnm— sunak of being too weak to even tnnn np— sunak of being too weak to even tnnn np to— sunak of being too weak to even tnnn np to tne— sunak of being too weak to even turn up to the vote.— sunak of being too weak to even turn up to the vote. shadow soottana— turn up to the vote. shadow scotland secretary ian murray geee— scotland secretary ian murray geee vttn— scotland secretary ian murray agrees with the _ scotland secretary ian murray agrees with the sanctions . given agrees with the sanctions. given toot— agrees with the sanctions. given food inflation— agrees with the sanctions. given food inflation has— agrees with the sanctions. given food inflation has dropped to its food inflation has dropped to tte toveet— food inflation has dropped to its lowest this— food inflation has dropped to its lowest this year, but neeonea— its lowest this year, but records show- its lowest this year, but records show it's at the highest it's records show it's at the highest tt-e teen— records show it's at the highest tt-e teen tn— records show it's at the highest it's been in 15— records show it's at the highest it's been in 15 years, according to neeeanen— it's been in 15 years, according to neeeanen py— it's been in 15 years, according to research by kantar grocery , to research by kantar grocery, pnoee— to research by kantar grocery, prices increased— to research by kantar grocery, prices increased by 16.5% in the non— prices increased by 16.5% in the tonn veete— prices increased by 16.5% in the tonn veete to— prices increased by 16.5% in the four weeks to june— prices increased by 16.5% in the four weeks to june 11th, eompanea— four weeks to june 11th, compared with the same period a yet— compared with the same period a yean ago.— compared with the same period a yean ago. neanty— compared with the same period a year ago. nearly 70% of households— year ago. nearly 70% of households say they're extremely or households say they're extremely on veny— households say they're extremely on veny nomen— households say they're extremely or very worried about rising toot— or very worried about rising

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nigel since it broke this morning or yesterday. what do you make of it? well, i mean, met.— you make of it? well, i mean, ttnet. tte— you make of it? well, i mean, ttnet. tt-e veny— you make of it? well, i mean, first, it's very sad— you make of it? well, i mean, first, it's very sad .— you make of it? well, i mean, first, it's very sad . and- first, it's very sad. and eeeontty— first, it's very sad. and secondly, let's all hope that tne— secondly, let's all hope that tne tnat— secondly, let's all hope that the that these— secondly, let's all hope that the that these people are found . it the that these people are found . tt te— the that these people are found . tt te a— the that these people are found . tt te a veny— the that these people are found . it is a very reckless thing to go ana— . it is a very reckless thing to go and to— . it is a very reckless thing to go and do that.— . it is a very reckless thing to go and do that. you're talking apont— go and do that. you're talking atont tes— go and do that. you're talking about 195 grand— go and do that. you're talking about 195 grand per person to go on tt— about 195 grand per person to go on t. so.— about 195 grand per person to go on t. so. a.— about 195 grand per person to go on t. so. a. yon— about 195 grand per person to go on it. so, a, you have to be veny— on it. so, a, you have to be veny non— on it. so, a, you have to be veny nten tt— on it. so, a, you have to be very rich if you— on it. so, a, you have to be very rich if you want this kind of very rich if you want this kind on tnnn.— very rich if you want this kind of thrill. and— very rich if you want this kind of thrill. and i— very rich if you want this kind of thrill. and i can understand it of thrill. and i can understand tt mnet— of thrill. and i can understand tt mnet pe— of thrill. and i can understand it must be great— of thrill. and i can understand it must be great to be close up to tne— it must be great to be close up to the titanic— it must be great to be close up to the titanic because it's eometntng— to the titanic because it's something we've all grown up vttn— something we've all grown up vttn tnat— something we've all grown up vttn tnat ve— something we've all grown up with that we all— something we've all grown up with that we all know about the etony— with that we all know about the etony .— with that we all know about the etony . t— with that we all know about the etony . t rnet— with that we all know about the etony . trnet teet— with that we all know about the story . i just feel that the risk story. i just feel that the risk is story. i just feel that the risk te a— story. i just feel that the risk te a pn— story. i just feel that the risk te a ptt too— story. i just feel that the risk is a bit too great. 'c is a bit too great. and tony, ten-t— is a bit too great. and tony, isn't it even more reckless, that risk when take your 19 that risk when you take your 19 year with you ? i just year old son with you? i just i just can't understand- cc c.7 i just i just can't understand what they tntnttng. — just can't understand what they were thinking. i— just can't understand what they were thinking. i it— just can't understand what they were thinking. i it blows my mtnon— were thinking. i it blows my mind. actually. _ were thinking. i it blows my mind. actually. there's the eaneee— mind. actually. there's the eaneee te— mind. actually. there's the sadness is the— mind. actually. there's the sadness is the first wave of emotton— sadness is the first wave of emotion that— sadness is the first wave of emotion that you have when you mtnt— emotion that you have when you tntnt atont— emotion that you have when you think about this— emotion that you have when you think about this story. and then the think about this story. and then tne next— think about this story. and then tne next one— think about this story. and then the next one is— think about this story. and then the next one is complete anger at-etnpta— the next one is complete anger at-etnpta-vene.- the next one is complete anger at stupid were. how at how stupid they were. how etnpta— at how stupid they were. how etnpta ae— at how stupid they were. how etnpta yon— at how stupid they were. how stupid are you to— at how stupid they were. how stupid are you to do that? and i nave— stupid are you to do that? and i nave no— stupid are you to do that? and i nave no tne— stupid are you to do that? and i have no the fact— stupid are you to do that? and i have no the fact to— stupid are you to do that? and i have no the fact to look at the tttante— have no the fact to look at the titanic, which _ have no the fact to look at the titanic, which is— have no the fact to look at the titanic, which is something

tnate— titanic, which is something tnat-e enmn— titanic, which is something that's sunk, you— titanic, which is something that's sunk, you can you can see evaetty— that's sunk, you can you can see evaetty tne— that's sunk, you can you can see exactly the same— that's sunk, you can you can see exactly the same images really nom— exactly the same images really tnom tne— exactly the same images really from the cameras. _ exactly the same images really from the cameras. it's not like yon-e— from the cameras. it's not like yone eeetng— from the cameras. it's not like you're seeing anything new. it's not—ana- you're seeing anything new. it's not—and climbingi not like going up and climbing up not like going up and climbing np-monntatn— not like going up and climbing up-mountain and- not like going up and climbing up mountain and seeing some up some mountain and seeing some pneatntattng— up some mountain and seeing some breathtaking-nature.- up some mountain and seeing some bristhtaking-nature.- up some mountain and seeing some pnte gotngng-natnne.- up some mountain and seeing some bris going down nature. up some mountain and seeing some bris going down into nature. up some mountain and seeing some bris going down into a nature. up some mountain and seeing some bris going down into a grave. it is going down into a grave ana— it is going down into a grave ant-tte— it is going down into a grave ant-tte tnet- it is going down into a grave and-it's just so- and it has it's just so reckless.— and it has it's just so reckless. and to take your 19 yet— reckless. and to take your 19 yean ott— reckless. and to take your 19 year old child— reckless. and to take your 19 year old child just because yone— year old child just because yone non— year old child just because you're rich enough to do it, tnat— you're rich enough to do it, mat-ean— you're rich enough to do it, that-can afford- you're rich enough to do it, that can afford to people. that you can afford to people. so that you can afford to people. so—tte— that you can afford to people. so—tte a- that you can afford to people. so—tte a tt- that you can afford to people. so_|t's a if we're. so what is it? it's a if we're tatttng— so what is it? it's a if we're talking-that's- so what is it? it's a if we're talking that's half $1 talking dollars, that's half $1 mtttton— talking dollars, that's half $1 million that— talking dollars, that's half $1 million that he— talking dollars, that's half $1 million that he spent to take pott— million that he spent to take pom-to— million that he spent to take both _to their- million that he spent to take both to their grave. i both of them to their grave. i mean-neattty- both of them to their grave. i mean-reality of- both of them to their grave. i mean-reality of it. mean and the reality of it is, i . t— mean and the reality of it is, i . t ton-t— mean and the reality of it is, i mean , i don't want to be the mean, i don't want to be the net— mean, i don't want to be the ttnet peeo— mean, i don't want to be the first person that— mean, i don't want to be the first person that says it, but tte— first person that says it, but me ntgnty— first person that says it, but it's highly unlikely they're going— it's highly unlikely they're gotng-mem- it's highly unlikely they're going them alive. but going to find them alive. but the going to find them alive. but tne matn— going to find them alive. but the main thing— going to find them alive. but the main thing is it's highly nntttety— the main thing is it's highly unlikely they're— the main thing is it's highly unlikely they're ever going to ttnet— unlikely they're ever going to ttnet tnem— unlikely they're ever going to ttnet tnem .— unlikely they're ever going to find them . so— unlikely they're ever going to find them . so never mind about find them. so never mind about attve— find them. so never mind about attve tnat— find them. so never mind about alive that capsule.— find them. so never mind about alive that capsule. it's tiny underneath— alive that capsule. it's tiny underneath the _ alive that capsule. it's tiny underneath the ocean. it's like a epnat— underneath the ocean. it's like a epnat tn— underneath the ocean. it's like a epnat tn tne— underneath the ocean. it's like a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? tte— a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? me ttte— a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? me ttte a— a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? it's like a sprat— a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? it's like a sprat in- a sprat in the ocean, isn't it? it's like a sprat in the ocean. tvaetty— it's like a sprat in the ocean. tvaetty tnat. — it's like a sprat in the ocean. exactly that. so— it's like a sprat in the ocean. exactly that. so they'll pnopapty— exactly that. so they'll probably never find ever. probably never find them, ever. it's probably never find them, ever. tt-e two— probably never find them, ever. me two ana— probably never find them, ever. me two and a— probably never find them, ever. it's two and a half— probably never find them, ever. it's two and a half miles down. of it's two and a half miles down. of anne— it's two and a half miles down. of .— it's two and a half miles down. of course , this— it's two and a half miles down. c and it's two and a half miles down. cc. and that's of course, this boat. and that's tnnongnont— of course, this boat. and that's throughout the— of course, this boat. and that's throughout the day— cc. and that's throughout the day here. nopetntty— throughout the day here. hopefully there's- throughout the day here. hopefully there's some good news. hopefully we hope it has risen to the surface . but risen to the surface. but they've lost communications .

they've lost communications. they're in the middle of nowhere . who knows? fingers crossed . . who knows? fingers crossed. but we're hoping, trying to be optimistic . all right. talking optimistic. all right. talking of optimism , i'm tonya. should of optimism, i'm tonya. should we talk about this egg freezing story in the telegraph? and this is about women who feel that they are not ready for a baby or that they haven't met the right man or that they just have to delay the procedure. what's happening? well, actually, it goee— happening? well, actually, it goee tntnen— happening? well, actually, it goes further-that- happening? well, actually, it goes further-that .- happening? well, actually, it. goes further-that . this goes further back to that. this is goes further back to that. this te anotnen— goes further back to that. this is another casualty of lockdown peanee— is another casualty of lockdown because _women - is another casualty of lockdown because women during because many women during toettovn— because many women during lockdown didn't— because many women during lockdown didn't meet anybody . lockdown didn't meet anybody. ana— lockdown didn't meet anybody. ana tney-ve— lockdown didn't meet anybody. ann tney-ve got— lockdown didn't meet anybody. and they've got 2— lockdown didn't meet anybody. and they've got 2 or 3 years otte— and they've got 2 or 3 years otae ana— and they've got 2 or 3 years older and in— and they've got 2 or 3 years older and in order to meet someone and have a relationship. so someone and have a relationship. so tne— someone and have a relationship. so tne tate— someone and have a relationship. so tne nate ot— someone and have a relationship. so the rate of women who it's not— so the rate of women who it's not empnyoe— so the rate of women who it's not embryos that— so the rate of women who it's not embryos that are being toen— not embryos that are being frozen so it's— not embryos that are being frozen so it's not couples are tneeztng. — frozen so it's not couples are freezing. .women,- frozen so it's not couples are freezing. women, single freezing. it's women, single women are freezing their women who are freezing their eggs— women who are freezing their egge—not eggs because they're just not meettng— eggs because they're just not meettng-ana- eggs because they're just not meettng-ana t- eggs because they're just not meeting and i see this meeting anyone. and i see this etneetty— meeting anyone. and i see this etneetty ae— meeting anyone. and i see this directly as complete casualty directly as a complete casualty of directly as a complete casualty ot toettovn— directly as a complete casualty of lockdown people and of lockdown because people and peopte— of lockdown because people and peopte no— of lockdown because people and peopte ae— of lockdown because people and people now are staying home tney-ne— people now are staying home more. they're-out. people now are staying home more. they're out as more. they're not going out as mnet— more. they're not going out as much lockdown _ more. they're not going out as much lockdown did, so much peyenotogteat— much lockdown did, so much psychological damage to us. and so psychological damage to us. and eo att— psychological damage to us. and eo an tneee— psychological damage to us. and so all these women now who were noptng— so all these women now who were noptng-eomeone- so all these women now who were hoping someone those, hoping to meet someone in those, you hoping to meet someone in those,

yon-yone— hoping to meet someone in those, yon-yon-ne tn— hoping to meet someone in those, yon-yon-ne tn yon- hoping to meet someone in those, you you're in your kind you know, if you're in your kind of you know, if you're in your kind on mtn— you know, if you're in your kind on mta to— you know, if you're in your kind of mid to late— you know, if you're in your kind of mid to late 20s,— you know, if you're in your kind of mid to late 20s, you think yone— of mid to late 20s, you think yone-to— of mid to late 20s, you think you're-to meet- of mid to late 20s, you think you're to meet someone, you're going to meet someone, yone— you're going to meet someone, yon-ne—mantenl you're going to get married, yone— you're going to get married,l you're—children. you're going to get married,l you'ithat_children. you're going to get married, you'ithat these children. you're going to get married, you'ithat these women ildren. you're going to get married, you'ithat these women ildrfnow in now that these women are now in men— now that these women are now in met-ana— now that these women are now in their- and they're— now that these women are now in their and they're thinking, their 30s and they're thinking, poem— their 30s and they're thinking, eoen te— their 30s and they're thinking, eoen te tnte— their 30s and they're thinking, gosh, is this ever— their 30s and they're thinking, gosh, is this ever going to nappene— gosh, is this ever going to happen? harder. gosh, is this ever going to- happen?-harder.-harder happen? it's harder. and harder to—tneyl happen? it's harder. and harder. to—tney toee happen? it's harder. and harder. toinhs_they does happen? it's harder. and harder. toinhs do _they does happen? it's harder. and harder. toinhs do it_they does happen? it's harder. and harder to nhs do it them? �*1ey does happen? it's harder. and harder to nhs do it them? \c ies the nhs do it for them? no. i yon nave— the nhs do it for them? no. i mean, you have to— the nhs do it for them? \c i mean, you have to pay the only ttme— mean, you have to pay the only ttme tne— mean, you have to pay the only ttme tne nns— mean, you have to pay the only time the nhs will— mean, you have to pay the only time the nhs will do it is if yone— time the nhs will do it is if yone navtng— time the nhs will do it is if you're having some kind of chemotherapy— chemotherapy or cancer treatment, _ treatment, or if something a tettttty— treatment, or if something a fertility killing— treatment, or if something a fertility killing treatment, tnen— fertility killing treatment, tnen tney— fertility killing treatment, then they - do - fertility killing treatment, then they do that for you. then they will do that for you. tte— then they will do that for you. tte-women— then they will do that for you. it's-women-thel it's mainly women taking the money— it's mainly women taking the money-ot— it's mainly women taking the money-of their- it's mainly women taking the money of their pockets money out of their own pockets to—veny.— money out of their own pockets to—veny. veny- to do, and it's very, very epenetve— to do, and it's very, very expensive. expensive to expensive. it's expensive to meet— expensive. it's expensive to- harvest—expensive harvest the eggs. it's expensive to-tne— harvest the eggs. it's expensive to-tne egge— harvest the eggs. it's expensive to-the eggs.-even to store the eggs. and it's even move—tte— to store the eggs. and it's even move—tte-tol more expensive. it's going to eoet— more expensive. it's going to eoet-to— more expensive. it's going to eoet-to get— more expensive. it's going to eoet-to get tt- more expensive. it's going to cost to get it implanted cost you get to get it implanted .ee-oet— cost you get to get it implanted .-costs around- cost you get to get it implanted . costs around £3,000 . i think it costs around £3,000 to-tne— . i think it costs around £3,000 to-tne egge— . i think it costs around £3,000 to-tne egge ana- . i think it costs around £3,000 to the eggs and then it to harvest the eggs and then it eoete— to harvest the eggs and then it eoete aonna— to harvest the eggs and then it costs around 300— to harvest the eggs and then it costs around 300 to £500 a year for costs around 300 to £500 a year ton etonage— costs around 300 to £500 a year ton etonage .— costs around 300 to £500 a year for storage . and— costs around 300 to £500 a year for storage . and then you have for storage. and then you have to go— for storage. and then you have to go tnnongn— for storage. and then you have to go through the— for storage. and then you have to go through the normal ivf tneatment— to go through the normal ivf treatment, which— to go through the normal ivf treatment, which can be upwards of treatment, which can be upwards ot-tt-e— treatment, which can be upwards ot-tt-e enen— treatment, which can be upwards ot-tt-e snap a- of 10,000. it's such a depressing thing story for me, this nigel and i think it's just we've gone wrong with humanity. i mean , and i think tanya is i mean, and i think tanya is right and it's borne out by the statistics. there's been this is rocketed after but it rocketed after lockdowns, but it was were already on a

was already we were already on a trajectory feeling trajectory of women feeling anxiety about parenthood and familyhood. yeah, i think i tntnt— familyhood. yeah, i think i tntnt vett— familyhood. yeah, i think i think well, a— familyhood. yeah, i think i think well, a couple- can : yeah, i think i think well, a couple of things. tnee— think well, a couple of things. tnene tnee— think well, a couple of things. there there is— think well, a couple of things. there there is one career and t— there there is one career and t tntnt— there there is one career and women i think are a bit more women— women i think are a bit more worried about— women i think are a bit more worried about taking time off, tnongn— worried about taking time off, even though there are provisions for even though there are provisions ton pnopen— even though there are provisions for proper maternity leave and so for proper maternity leave and eo tney-ne— for proper maternity leave and so on. they're worried about tattng— so on. they're worried about tattng ttme— so on. they're worried about taking time off— so on. they're worried about taking time off from a career. team.— taking time off from a career. vean t— taking time off from a career. vean t mov— taking time off from a career. yeah, i know my— taking time off from a career. yeah, i know my own daughters on tne— yeah, i know my own daughters were on the basis— yeah, i know my own daughters were on the basis they were toottng— were on the basis they were looking-things- were on the basis they were looking things if i if looking at things like if i if i atom-t— looking at things like if i if i atom-t tate— looking at things like if i if i didn't take the— looking at things like if i if i didn't take the time off, this is didn't take the time off, this te vtee— didn't take the time off, this te vnee t— didn't take the time off, this is where i might— didn't take the time off, this is where i might be. i can is where i might be. yes, i can nave— is where i might be. yes, i can nave my— is where i might be. yes, i can nave my ott— is where i might be. yes, i can nave my otn rot— is where i might be. yes, i can have my old job back, but i'm mteetng— have my old job back, but i'm mteetng-tne— have my old job back, but i'm missing-the on- have my old job back, but i'm missing the on the missing out on the on the pnomotton— missing out on the on the promotion. and- missing out on the on the promotion. and the second thing is promotion. and the second thing te tne— promotion. and the second thing te tne pnoe— promotion. and the second thing te tne pntee ot— promotion. and the second thing is the price of houses. now that peopte— is the price of houses. now that peopte can-t— is the price of houses. now that peopte cant get— is the price of houses. now that people can't get onto the nonetng— people can't get onto the housing ladder until they're 30 or housing ladder until they're 30 on nee.— housing ladder until they're 30 on me. ana— housing ladder until they're 30 or 40s. and obviously , if you or 40s. and obviously, if you aon-t— or 40s. and obviously, if you aon-t on— or 40s. and obviously, if you don't own your— or 40s. and obviously, if you don't own your own home, you're gotng— don't own your own home, you're gotng to— don't own your own home, you're gotng to te— don't own your own home, you're gotng to be teee— don't own your own home, you're going to be less likely to want to nave— going to be less likely to want to have children. _ going to be less likely to want to have children. you're going to have children. you're going to te— to have children. you're going to te yon— to have children. you're going to be yon vant— to have children. you're going to be you want that security eomtng— to be you want that security eomtng np— to be you want that security eomtng np ana— to be you want that security coming up and given sort of none— coming up and given sort of tone pnoee— coming up and given sort of house prices back in in margaret tnatenen-e— house prices back in in margaret tnatenen-e nay.— house prices back in in margaret thatcher's day, for— house prices back in in margaret thatcher's day, for instance , thatcher's day, for instance, you— thatcher's day, for instance, yon neet— thatcher's day, for instance, yon meet a— thatcher's day, for instance, you need a mortgage of two times yon— you need a mortgage of two times yonn annnat— you need a mortgage of two times your annual income— you need a mortgage of two times your annual income to afford a tone—

your annual income to afford a tone nov— your annual income to afford a tone nov yon— your annual income to afford a house. now you need a mortgage of house. now you need a mortgage on non— house. now you need a mortgage on tonn ana— house. now you need a mortgage on tonn and a— house. now you need a mortgage of four and a half— house. now you need a mortgage of four and a half times your annnat— of four and a half times your annual income— of four and a half times your annual income and goodness knows vnat— annual income and goodness knows vnat-nappen— annual income and goodness knows vnat-nappen ae— annual income and goodness knows what happen as mortgages go what will happen as mortgages go noetettng— what will happen as mortgages go rocketing-anyway.— what will happen as mortgages go rocketing anyway. it's rocketing up anyway. and it's annoange ot— rocketing up anyway. and it's arrogance of feeling we can eontnot— arrogance of feeling we can control nature,— arrogance of feeling we can control nature, isn't it? that-e— control nature, isn't it? tnate tt— control nature, isn't it? that's it. that's- control nature, isn't it? that's it. that's exactly it. we've been sold a lie and we were the first generation, i think bev who were think you and i. bev who were sold that you have sold that lie that you can have everything. you you can't everything. you can't. you can't have and a career and have children and a career and everything. you can't everything. and you can't do it whenever genetically, whenever you want. genetically, we're have children we're supposed to have children in late early 20 in our late teens, early 20 ends. . you know, ends. okay, fine. you know, we're in the ages, we're not back in the dark ages, so bit. so we shove it forward a bit. but can't shove it into your but you can't shove it into your late 30s and 40s. and women are expecting children. expecting to have children. nature doesn't allow you to do that. have to make that. you have to make sacrifices. want sacrifices. if you want to be a parent, then you to make parent, then you have to make some for your some sacrifices for your children. if you go back to the ttnet— children. if you go back to the ttnet nonto— children. if you go back to the first world war, _ c c 1c" if you go back to the first world war, many men first world war, so many men eten— first world war, so many men etee-van. — first world war, so many men died-war. the- died in that war. the inappropriately called great vvan— inappropriately called great war. got war. so many women never got manned.— war. so many women never got mantel-natt— war. so many women never got married, had husbands, married, never had husbands, natt— married, never had husbands, never had children. they didn't nave— never had children. they didn't nave-optom— never had children. they didn't have .option. and - never had children. they didn't have option. and was have this option. and it was inconceivable— have this option. and it was inconceivable yeah, inconceivable then. yeah, inconceivable _ inconceivable then. yeah, inconceivable . g1c;cc : inconceivable. all great word. perfect word. absolutely. yeah. yeah right. let's go on to shall

we talk about what's on the front page of the telegraph supplement this morning about children going to school, identifying as cats as the moon, as dinosaurs , as we touched upon as dinosaurs, as we touched upon it earlier. but i don't think we really got there. nigel, what should teachers do in this situation ? i think that the situation? i think that the teaenene— situation? i think that the teachers are _ situation? i think that the teachers are now- 7 i think that the teachers are now going to ct“71 i think that the teachers are now going to have to team— teachers are now going to have to team an— teachers are now going to have to teach an awful— teachers are now going to have to teach an awful lot more about the to teach an awful lot more about tne vnote— to teach an awful lot more about the whole trans— to teach an awful lot more about the whole trans issue, largely teanee— the whole trans issue, largely because we keep— the whole trans issue, largely because we keep talking about it . eovemment— because we keep talking about it . government guidance will come out . government guidance will come ont to— . government guidance will come ont to aetnatty— . government guidance will come out to actually help _ . government guidance will come out to actually help them, but panttentan— out to actually help them, but particular cases— out to actually help them, but particular cases was sparked off by a— particular cases was sparked off by a teame— particular cases was sparked off by a teacher having a go at his pnptte— by a teacher having a go at his pnptte nno— by a teacher having a go at his pupils who were,— by a teacher having a go at his pupils who were, i— by a teacher having a go at his pupils who were, i thought, aepattng— pupils who were, i thought, debating against him pretty well . ana— debating against him pretty well . ana tne— debating against him pretty well . and the teacher— debating against him pretty well . and the teacher was saying, toot.— . and the teacher was saying, toot. tnat— . and the teacher was saying, look, that don't— . and the teacher was saying, look, that don't be unkind to tne— look, that don't be unkind to tne to— look, that don't be unkind to tne to tne— look, that don't be unkind to the to the girl— look, that don't be unkind to the to the girl who identifies as the to the girl who identifies ae a eat.— the to the girl who identifies as a cat, what— the to the girl who identifies as a cat, what the teacher could nave— as a cat, what the teacher could nave tone— as a cat, what the teacher could nave tone te— as a cat, what the teacher could have done is use— as a cat, what the teacher could have done is use that as a teeeon— have done is use that as a teeeon py— have done is use that as a lesson by saying , look, lesson by saying, look, aetnatty— lesson by saying, look, actually, you - lesson by saying, look, actually, you you can change yon— actually, you you can change yonn gente— actually, you you can change your gender here. what you can't do your gender here. what you can't to te— your gender here. what you can't to te enange— your gender here. what you can't do is change into— your gender here. what you can't do is change into an animal or tne— do is change into an animal or tne moon— do is change into an animal or tne on— do is change into an animal or tne on a— do is change into an animal or the moon or a pillar box or anytntng— the moon or a pillar box or anytntng etee— the moon or a pillar box or anything else that to a 13 year old— anything else that to a 13 year

ota. yon— anything else that to a 13 year one. yon nonto— anything else that to a 13 year old, you would say you can enange— old, you would say you can enange yon— old, you would say you can change your gender. t/c;5 change your gender. yes, i, i tne— change your gender. yes, i, i mean, the kids are going to start talking about it now because it's become such a live issue. but it's only because people like this teacher put this nonsense in their head. well, do you not think that we are well, do you not think that we a pan— well, do you not think that we a pant ot— well, do you not think that we are a part of that— well, do you not think that we are a part of that because we tatt— are a part of that because we tatt atont— are a part of that because we talk about it— are a part of that because we talk about it an— are a part of that because we talk about it an awful lot . i talk about it an awful lot. i t— talk about it an awful lot. i mean, i think— talk about it an awful lot. i mean, i think it's actually a tenttty— mean, i think it's actually a terribly private _ mean, i think it's actually a terribly private matter to the tnatvtanate— terribly private matter to the individuals concerned and the tee— individuals concerned and the teaet otte— individuals concerned and the least other people get involved ana— least other people get involved and government— least other people get involved and government to probably the tetten— and government to probably the tee ent— and government to probably the tee on t— and government to probably the better. but i mean, now we've got— better. but i mean, now we've got a— better. but i mean, now we've got a situation— better. but i mean, now we've got a situation whereby we're angntng— got a situation whereby we're angntng oven— got a situation whereby we're arguing over whether trans is aetnatty— arguing over whether trans is aetnatty ntgnt— arguing over whether trans is actually right in— arguing over whether trans is actually right in the first ptaee— actually right in the first ptaee. vtett.— actually right in the first place. well, this is this is set ont— place. well, this is this is set ont tn— place. well, this is this is set ont tn tav— place. well, this is this is set out in law for— place. well, this is this is set out in law for most purposes, i know. — out in law for most purposes, i know. tnt— out in law for most purposes, i know. but we've— out in law for most purposes, i know. but we've got- out in law for most purposes, i know. gc c know. but we've got teachers indulging in what i would call this phrase recently ruinous empathy , this idea that you empathy, this idea that you empathise so much with the child that you tell them they're always right and in fact, it's damaging rather than giving them a hard dose reality and a good hard dose of reality and finding out what's behind this psychological disorder that they're going to school thinking

they're going to school thinking they're a cat , what are they they're a cat, what are they watching is putting watching online? what is putting this their head? our very this into their head? our very own michelle dewberry did it last not saying last night. now i'm not saying that was is a victim of that michelle was is a victim of this, but she was proving the point night, which is very point last night, which is very funny, actually funny, but actually it's not funny. what's our funny. what's happening in our eenoote— funny. what's happening in our eenoote-tte— funny. what's happening in our schools,-it's not. - funny. what's happening in our schools,-it's not. it's- schools, is it? it's not. it's not— schools, is it? it's not. it's not funny— schools, is it? it's not. it's not funny what's happening in our schools at all, because like you empathy is not you said, this empathy is not looking what the problems looking for what is the problems that this. and that are causing this. and there's actually there's another piece actually in about in today's telegraph about jasmine d transitioner jasmine, who is a d transitioner and what she's gone through. and she started giving and what she's gone through. and she drugs started giving and what she's gone through. and she drugs to started giving and what she's gone through. and she drugs to stop;tarted giving and what she's gone through. and she drugs to stop hered giving and what she's gone through. and she drugs to stop her sex|iving and what she's gone through. and she drugs to stop her sex at ng and what she's gone through. and she drugs to stop her sex at the her drugs to stop her sex at the age of 13. she now has to shave her face every day. her voice is lower than it was. she had a double mastectomy, amy, and she says it was a childhood mistake. and she does put the blame at the feet of the adults that indulged this and said she was already self harming. so she said said all the issues said she said all the issues that talked about before that we've talked about before with a lot these children with a lot of these children that through trans, that are going through trans, there psychological that are going through trans, there they)sychological that are going through trans, there they need)logical that are going through trans, there they need help al that are going through trans, there they need help in issues and they need help in another straightaway another way. not straightaway pumping full of drugs and pumping them full of drugs and hormones shouldn't

pumping them full of drugs and hormonescutting shouldn't pumping them full of drugs and hormonescutting off;houldn't pumping them full of drugs and hormonescutting off bodyin't pumping them full of drugs and hormonescutting off body parts have and cutting off body parts for sake. it's so for goodness sake. it's so simplistic, nigel,- g: it's so simplistic, nigel, when you say to a— simplistic, nigel, when you say to a tame— simplistic, nigel, when you say to a trans child— simplistic, nigel, when you say to a trans child the solution to yon— to a trans child the solution to yonn pnoptem— to a trans child the solution to your problem must be to allow you— your problem must be to allow yon to— your problem must be to allow yon to evap— your problem must be to allow you to swap gender. “cc" \vc you to swap gender. yeah. no, i tnmn.— you to swap gender. yeah. no, i ma, t— you to swap gender. yeah. no, i think, i think you're right. and i think certainly when tonya mentions the tavistock that they they seem to rush this process. that's the clinic in london, vnten— that's the clinic in london, vnten nae— that's the clinic in london, which has facilitated the and it's which has facilitated the and me gotng— which has facilitated the and me gotng to— which has facilitated the and me gotng to te— which has facilitated the and it's going to be closed down. nneen.— it's going to be closed down. nneen. ann— it's going to be closed down. indeed. and certainly- it's going to be closed down. indeed. and certainly that the way nhs approaches it way that the nhs approaches it is they it should be is they they say it should be done with extreme caution along the way. so you begin with talking therapy. you might then go on to puberty blockers , go on to puberty blockers, cross—sex hormones, even surgery. but it's a long way down the down the road. and do they accept that the _ : : : and do they accept that the parents enonttt — they accept that the parents enonttt te — they accept that the parents should be involved in this? vtett.— should be involved in this? vtett. tt— should be involved in this? well, it depends. _ should be involved in this? well, it depends. obviously this depends on what stage there shouldn't be any obvious. it shouldn't be any obvious. it should be an obvious . but at should be an obvious. but at what— should be an obvious. but at what stage.— should be an obvious. but at me etage. tt— should be an obvious. but at what stage, if you have a child who goes to a teacher there and says, i'm worried about my says, look, i'm worried about my sexuality or i'm feeling very uncomfortable in the biological

sex, i was born in, if you're starting at that point, should that teacher not respect the confidence of the child? definitely not. definitely not. tonya, you're a man. what do you tntnte — tonya, you're a man. what do you think? because— tonya, you're a man. what do you think? because if— tonya, you're a man. what do you think? because if a— tonya, you're a man. what do you think? c �*7 c c c think? because if a child came to me and said, you know, like i said, we've talked about the anorexic issue, i school anorexic issue, i was a school teacher, absolutely have teacher, i would absolutely have told to the parents told the spoken to the parents about issue. the child about this issue. the child needs help. cry for help needs help. it's a cry for help and parents need be and the parents need to be involved you start giving involved before you start giving this room to think this child room to think that it's if they're it's because if they're psychological issue then psychological issue is then getting pasted over with saying it's trans, it will just do all the trans stuff. and the same with the talking therapy. if you end a trans therapist end up with a trans therapist that's completely end up with a trans therapist thatyes completely end up with a trans therapist thatyes , completely end up with a trans therapist thatyes , yes, completely end up with a trans therapist thatyes , yes, yes, completely end up with a trans therapist thatyes , yes, yes, you're letely end up with a trans therapist thatyes , yes, yes, you're right, say yes, yes, yes, you're right, you're wrong body. that's you're in the wrong body. that's absolutely of absolutely true. instead of having maybe having someone to just maybe question this way question why they feel this way and going on, a proper and what's going on, a proper therapist do that. we're therapist would do that. we're in therapist . in a proper therapist. tnenaptet— in a proper therapist. cc" c well, i in a proper therapist. - therapist don't. well, i mean a pnope— therapist don't. well, i mean a pnopen tnenaptet— therapist don't. well, i mean a proper therapist would- cct" c well, i mean a proper therapist would actually attov— proper therapist would actually attov tne — proper therapist would actually allow the individual to express tnemeetvee— allow the individual to express themselves and— allow the individual to express themselves and try and get to themselves and try and get to tne pottom — themselves and try and get to the bottom of— themselves and try and get to the bottom of what their concern te. — the bottom of what their concern te. an. — the bottom of what their concern te. an. neve— the bottom of what their concern is. ah, we've seen— the bottom of what their concern is. ah, we've seen this- the bottom of what their concern is. 1 1“ c the bottom of what their concern is. 1 1“ “ is. ah, we've seen this week the prime says enough prime minister says it's enough

now they now with these schools they are not children to change not to allow children to change their the classroom their gender in the classroom without informing the parents. no.and without informing the parents. no. and that's right. but what rishi was no. and that's right. but what rishi-was talking- no. and that's right. but what rishi-was talking abouti no. and that's right. but what. rishi-was talking about is rishi sunak was talking about is that rishi sunak was talking about is mat-enta— rishi sunak was talking about is that-child-to- rishi sunak was talking about is that child to change that if a child wants to change tnen— that if a child wants to change their pronouns— that if a child wants to change their pronouns change the their pronouns or change the nnttonm— their pronouns or change the nnttonm. tne— their pronouns or change the uniform, the parents ought to be tntonmea— uniform, the parents ought to be tntonmet .— uniform, the parents ought to be tntonmet . ana— uniform, the parents ought to be informed . and i— uniform, the parents ought to be informed . and i understand informed. and i understade that the informed. and i understand that tne—to— informed. and i understand that the _to actually. the parents ought to actually nottee—tne- the parents ought to actually notice _the way. i notice this along the way. anyway— notice this along the way. anyvay tnat— notice this along the way. anyway that part i understand anyway that part i understade the anyway that part i understand tne-t— anyway that part i understand tnelt tnat— anyway that part i understand the-i that i'm— anyway that part i understand the i that i'm arguing, the bit i that i'm arguing, angntng— the bit i that i'm arguing, angntng nee— the bit i that i'm arguing, arguing here is if you're pntttng— arguing here is if you're pntttng tne— arguing here is if you're putting the child's best, best tnteeete— putting the child's best, best interests first— putting the child's best, best interests first as— putting the child's best, best interests first as a teacher and tne— interests first as a teacher and tne enta— interests first as a teacher and the child expresses concerns tnat— the child expresses concerns tnat tney— the child expresses concerns that they don't— the child expresses concerns that they don't want their patente— that they don't want their panente to— that they don't want their parents to know about yet, enonttt — parents to know about yet, enonttt yon— parents to know about yet, should you not— parents to know about yet, should you not then respect that eonttaenee— should you not then respect that eonttaenee tn— should you not then respect that confidence in the— should you not then respect that confidence in the catholic confession— confidence in the catholic confession box? \a gtc;c confidence in the catholic confession box? \a gc;c fiancee c confession box? nigel well, it's until the next stage , if that until the next stage, if that child wants to move further on and really transition on, then of course parents would have to be involved. it's that first etage— be involved. it's that first etage vnee — be involved. it's that first stage where a— : it's that first stage where a child is exploring vnat— stage where a child is exploring vnat tney— stage where a child is exploring what they think. _ stage where a child is exploring what they think. 'gc; : what they think. age would you put that on though? what age do you think the parents would would be out of that picture? i wouldn't put an age on it. i think it would depend- think it would depend on the tnatvtanat— think it would depend on the individual child. _ think it would depend on the individual child. i think it's

pnopapty— individual child. i think it's pnopapty g.— individual child. i think it's probably oh, again, again, we've run probably oh, again, again, we've ont— probably oh, again, again, we've ont ot— probably oh, again, again, we've run out of time. _ probably oh, again, again, we've run out of time. q“ c’“c;1c; probably oh, again, again, we've run out of time. o’“ 1c 1c run out of time. oh, there are. tney-ne— run out of time. oh, there are. tney-ne eo— run out of time. oh, there are. tney-ne eo goon.— run out of time. oh, there are. they're so good. these- run out of time. o’“ 1c 1c they're so good. these two. tanya— they're so good. these two. tanya ana— they're so good. these two. tanya and nigel, thank you so mnen. — tanya and nigel, thank you so mnen. lnae— tanya and nigel, thank you so much. .has flown- tanya and nigel, thank you so much. .has flown by.- tanya and nigel, thank you so- much. .has flown by. coming up much. it has flown by. coming up next is gb news live with mark longhurst. is hello. very longhurst. this is hello. very good morning you. longhurst. this is hello. very. good morning-you.-aidan good morning to you. it's aidan neetven— good morning to you. it's aidan mcgivern here— good morning to you. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met omee— mcgivern here from the met onttee vttn— mcgivern here from the met office with the _ mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news toneeaet— office with the gb news forecast. .a - office with the gb news forecast. a wet start forecast. it's a wet start in tne— forecast. it's a wet start in tne-today. - forecast. it's a wet start in the _today. .all. forecast. it's a wet start ml the _today. .all of forecast. it's a wet start in- the _today. .all of the the south today. not all of the eontn— the south today. not all of the eontn-eome— the south today. not all of the south,-some areas- the south today. not all of the south, some areas are seeing the south today. not all of the south, rain.;ome areas are seeing the south today. not all of the south, rain. that areas are seeing the south today. not all of the south, rain. that rainrs are seeing the south today. not all of the south, rain. that rain moveseeing heavy rain. that rain moves nonn— heavy rain. that rain moves north through— heavy rain. that rain moves north through morning and north through the morning and tnto— north through the morning and into-afternoon— north through the morning and into afternoon associated into the afternoon associated vttn— into the afternoon associated vttn-eyetem- into the afternoon associated with system that's with a weather system that's eomtng— with a weather system that's eomtng-tne— with a weather system that's coming the continent and coming out of the continent and eome—tne- some instability in the atmosphere- some instability in the atmosphere will lead to a few nnmttee— atmosphere will lead to a few rumbles-thunder- atmosphere will lead to a few rumbles thunder along with rumbles of thunder along with some-weather- rumbles of thunder along with some-weather for- some very wet weather for a eton— some very wet weather for a enont epaee— some very wet weather for a enont epaee ot— some very wet weather for a short space of time. but it's a eton— short space of time. but it's a enont epaee— short space of time. but it's a enont epaee ot— short space of time. but it's a short space of time. but it's a short space of time. it quickly movee-tne— short space of time. it quickly moves-the central- short space of time. it quickly moves the central part of moves into the central part of tne— moves into the central part of tne nt— moves into the central part of the uk before— moves into the central part of the uk before arriving into nonmem— the uk before arriving into northern england by the end of the northern england by the end of tne monntng— northern england by the end of the morning and— northern england by the end of the morning and eventually eontnen— the morning and eventually southern scotland in its wake, sttee— southern scotland in its wake, sttee ao— southern scotland in its wake, skies do brighten in the south, but skies do brighten in the south, on gntetty— skies do brighten in the south, but quickly further showers aevetop— but quickly further showers aevetop .— but quickly further showers nevetop . ntt— but quickly further showers develop , hit and but quickly further showers develop, hit and miss but quickly further showers develop , hit and miss downpours develop, hit and miss downpours for develop, hit and miss downpours ton-soottana— develop, hit and miss downpours for scotland northern for western scotland, northern reana— for western scotland, northern ireland, southern _ for western scotland, northern ireland, southern and eastern pane— ireland, southern and eastern pante ot— ireland, southern and eastern parts of england— ireland, southern and eastern parts of england and some thunderstorms— parts of england and some thunderstorms around well. thunderstorms around as well. even— thunderstorms around as well. even some hail— thunderstorms around as well. even some hail and fairly heavy natntatt— even some hail and fairly heavy

natntatt tn— even some hail and fairly heavy natntatt tn a— even some hail and fairly heavy rainfall in a short— even some hail and fairly heavy rainfall in a short space of ttme— rainfall in a short space of time, particularly around eaetem— time, particularly around eastern england. if temperatures get to— eastern england. if temperatures get to tne— eastern england. if temperatures get to tne mtn— eastern england. if temperatures get to the mid to— eastern england. if temperatures get to the mid to even high 20s, vnten— get to the mid to even high 20s, vnten te— get to the mid to even high 20s, which is possible— get to the mid to even high 20s, which is possible given some ennny— which is possible given some ennny ettee— which is possible given some sunny skies this— which is possible given some sunny skies this afternoon. then any neoee— sunny skies this afternoon. then any showers ease— sunny skies this afternoon. then any showers ease away into the eventng. — any showers ease away into the eventng. tne— any showers ease away into the evening. the main— any showers ease away into the evening. the main area of natntatt— evening. the main area of rainfall clears— evening. the main area of rainfall clears eastern scotland, _ rainfall clears eastern scotland, pushing into shetland tntng— scotland, pushing into shetland anntng tne— scotland, pushing into shetland during the early— scotland, pushing into shetland during the early hours of vveaneeaay— during the early hours of wednesday with clear skies across much _ wednesday with clear skies across much of— wednesday with clear skies across much of the country . across much of the country. ton-tt— across much of the country. ton-a tntnt— across much of the country. you'd think it— across much of the country. you'd think it would be a cool ntgnt— you'd think it would be a cool ntgnt ana— you'd think it would be a cool ntgnt and t— you'd think it would be a cool night and it will— you'd think it would be a cool night and it will be cooler for pane— night and it will be cooler for pante ot— night and it will be cooler for parts of scotland— night and it will be cooler for parts of scotland and northern tnetana— parts of scotland and northern tnetana ae— parts of scotland and northern ireland as well— parts of scotland and northern ireland as well as— parts of scotland and northern ireland as well as northern tngtanp— ireland as well as northern tngtann ton— ireland as well as northern england, for example. but still, tempenatnnee— england, for example. but still, temperatures .the— england, for example. but still, temperatures the teens and temperatures in the teens by and tange— temperatures in the teens by and tango—eonntny- temperatures in the teens by and large,-country and- temperatures in the teens by and large, country and in large, across the country and in eome-notatng- large, across the country and in some-holding up- large, across the country and in some holding up at 16 or some places holding up at 16 or 17 some places holding up at 16 or tt aegneee— some places holding up at 16 or tt negneee pnt— some places holding up at 16 or 17 degrees, but plenty of ennentne— 17 degrees, but plenty of sunshine first- 17 degrees, but plenty of sunshine first thing tomorrow, eepeetatty— sunshine first thing tomorrow, especially-east. - sunshine first thing tomorrow, especially-east. i- sunshine first thing tomorrow, especially east. i think especially in the east. i think tnme— especially in the east. i think further west,— especially in the east. i think further west, the _ especially in the east. i think further west, the cloud will gntetty— further west, the cloud will quickly- showersi quickly build and showers atneaay— quickly build and showers already across— quickly build and showers already across western scotland, nonmem— already across western scotland, nontnen-ana— already across western scotland, northern and northern northern england and northern tnetana— northern england and northern tnetana vttt— northern england and northern ireland will move and develop vtaety— ireland will move and develop vtnety aeoee— ireland will move and develop widely across the— ireland will move and develop widely across the rest of the uk by widely across the rest of the uk py-attennoon— widely across the rest of the uk py-attennoon .— widely across the rest of the uk by afternoon . again, a few by the afternoon. again, a few nnmptee— by the afternoon. again, a few nnmptee ot— by the afternoon. again, a few rumbles of thunder associated vttn— rumbles of thunder associated vttn tne— rumbles of thunder associated with the heaviest— rumbles of thunder associated with the heaviest downpours , but with the heaviest downpours, but it's with the heaviest downpours, but tt-e a— with the heaviest downpours, but tt-e a — with the heaviest downpours, but it's a warm afternoon with temperatures— it's a warm afternoon with temperatures widely low to mid so.— temperatures widely low to mid zoe ana— temperatures widely low to mid me and tn— temperatures widely low to mid 20s and in some—

temperatures widely low to mid 20s and in some spots 28 or 29 aegneee.— 20s and in some spots 28 or 29 aegneee. tt— 20s and in some spots 28 or 29 degrees. it turns— 20s and in some spots 28 or 29 degrees. it turns even hotter tate— degrees. it turns even hotter taten tnte— degrees. it turns even hotter later this week— degrees. it turns even hotter later this week as sunnier veatnen— later this week as sunnier weather returns to the south, attnongn— weather returns to the south, attnongn tt— weather returns to the south, although it will— weather returns to the south, although it will stay changeable across scotland _ although it will stay changeable across scotland and northern tnetana— across scotland and northern ireland with— across scotland and northern ireland with some wet weather at ttmee— ireland with some wet weather at ttmee ae— ireland with some wet weather at ttmee ae .—

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