incident, breaking ongoing incident, reports a stabbing at central reports of a stabbing at central middlesex . armed police middlesex hospital. armed police are scene . casualties are are on the scene. casualties are unknown. we will have up to the minute. latest details on that as we get it. stay tuned. in terms of other breaking news, though, could an sos signal have been detected.7 now from somewhere near the wreck of the titanic? this would mean that potentially those people on board that sunken craft are alive . but get this could the us alive. but get this could the us government be blocking a rescue team from britain from saving those people on board? i'll tell you the latest on all of that. also a big inflation shock. yes. okay so inflation has remained at the same level. but what does this really mean the money this really mean for the money in your pocket? is it time for a recession? going to be recession? i'm going to be talking this as well, of talking about this as well, of course. could talking about this as well, of couwell, could talking about this as well, of couwell, now could talking about this as well, of couwell, now be could talking about this as well, of couwell, now be about could talking about this as well, of couwell, now be about to ould talking about this as well, of couwell, now be about to be d we well, now be about to be paying we well, now be about to be paying the eu more money to protect our own borders ? you protect our own borders? you will not believe this. is this really the grand plan from rishi sunak and co lob allo more sunak and co to lob allo more money to the european union and just will stop

just hope that that will stop the boats. not worked the small boats. it's not worked for it. fill for the french has it. i'll fill you on points very you in on the finer points very shortly load of this shortly and get a load of this as christine are now seen as well. christine are now seen as well. christine are now seen as quote , aggressive when as being quote, aggressive when it to standing up for it comes to standing up for their religious beliefs over gender identity. well, i'm sorry , but why are the christians copping it more so than some of the muslim community? i'm going to a discussion on to be having a big discussion on all patrick christie's all of this. patrick christie's on . gb news lows to go out today on. gb news lows to go out today . we will be on the scene. this reported stabbing at central middlesex hospital. like i've said, armed police are there . said, armed police are there. the amount of casualties as yet unknown , big breaking ongoing the amount of casualties as yet unkn

headlines with tatiana. patrick thank you very much and good afternoon. this is the latest from— afternoon. this is the latest from the— afternoon. this is the latest from the newsroom- " this is the latest from the newsroom as you've just been— from the newsroom as you've just been hearing,— from the newsroom as you've just been hearing, breaking news, armed— been hearing, breaking news, armed pence— been hearing, breaking news, armed police are— been hearing, breaking news, armed police are responding to a reported— armed police are responding to a reported stabbing— armed police are responding to a reported stabbing central reported stabbing at central middlesex— reported stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west london.— middlesex hospital in west london. one— middlesex hospital in west london. one man has been arrested.— london. one man has been arrested. london- london. one man has been arrested. london ambulance also sent— arrested. london ambulance also sent a— arrested. london ambulance also been a mbe— arrested. london ambulance also sent a number of— arrested. london ambulance also sent a number of resources to me— sent a number of resources to me scene— sent a number of resources to the scene, including london's air ambulance. _ the scene, including london's air ambulance. they told gb news in air ambulance. they told gb news m e— air ambulance. they told gb news m e ebebemem— air ambulance. they told gb news in a statement that— air ambulance. they told gb news in a statement that teams have so nm— in a statement that teams have so far treated— in a statement that teams have so far treated two— in a statement that teams have so far treated two people at the scene . more on— so far treated two people at the scene . more on that breaking scene. more on that breaking enem— scene. more on that breaking ebony ee— scene. more on that breaking news story as we— scene. more on that breaking news story as we get it. gb news nnbenebenbe— news story as we get it. gb news understands the— news story as we get it. gb news understands the tapping that was neme— understands the tapping that was neem m— understands the tapping that was neem m me— understands the tapping that was heard in the for— understands the tapping that was heard in the for search the submersible— heard in the for search the submersible vessel that submersible tourist vessel that nem— submersible tourist vessel that nenb mesme— submersible tourist vessel that went missing en— submersible tourist vessel that went missing en route to the meme— went missing en route to the meme .— went missing en route to the titanic . shipwreck the titanic. shipwreck in the numbe— titanic. shipwreck in the atlantic-is- titanic. shipwreck in the atlantic is morse code titanic. shipwreck in the- atlantic-is morse code for atlantic ocean is morse code for ses— atlantic ocean is morse code for sos. semeee— atlantic ocean is morse code for sos. sources close— atlantic ocean is morse code for sos. sources close to the rescue neu— sos. sources close to the rescue en en — sos. sources close to the rescue en en bene— sos. sources close to the rescue tell gb news the— sos. sources close to the rescue tell gb news the us coastguard deemed— tell gb news the us coastguard beebbeb neb— tell gb news the us coastguard decided not to— tell gb news the us coastguard decided not to fund two deep water— decided not to fund two deep water salvage _ decided not to fund two deep water salvage companies who come— water salvage companies who eenbb neve— water salvage companies who could have flown— water salvage companies who could have flown equipment over on us— could have flown equipment over on us mbbbem— could have flown equipment over on us military transport. men-ne— on us military transport. they're understood to have been 3 they're understood to have been ene— they're understood to have been see b— they're understood to have been see b days— they're understood to have been 3 be e days away.— they're understood to have been 3 to 4 days away. the vessel is bbbbm — 3 to 4 days away. the vessel is bbbbm beben— 3 to 4 days away. the vessel is 3800m below sea— 3 to 4 days away. the vessel is 3800m below sea level and we understand— 3800m below sea level and we understand that— 3800m below sea level and we understand that last night two venbebee— understand that last night two vehicles were— understand that last night two vehicles were sent down, but

bem— vehicles were sent down, but both imploded_ vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at sooom vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at 3000m and five beebbe— both imploded at 3000m and five beebbe m— both imploded at 3000m and five beebbe m bomb— both imploded at 3000m and five people in total are— both imploded at 3000m and five people in total are missing . people in total are missing. t hey— people in total are missing. men may— people in total are missing. men may neve— people in total are missing. they may have as little as 24 been— they may have as little as 24 been on— they may have as little as 24 hours of oxygen— they may have as little as 24 hours of oxygen left at british nemebenb — hours of oxygen left at british pakistani businessman shahzada beneeb— pakistani businessman shahzada beneeb ene— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman are on bone,— dawood and his son sulaiman are on beam, nong— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board, along with british billionaire— on board, along with british billionaire explorer hamish hemme— billionaire explorer hamish naming .— billionaire explorer hamish harding. marine billionaire explorer hamish harding . marine biologist monty harding. marine biologist monty nabbe— harding. marine biologist monty neue ene— harding. marine biologist monty halls said the— harding. marine biologist monty halls said the banging noise ceme— halls said the banging noise eenbb be— halls said the banging noise eenbb be e— halls said the banging noise could be a good— halls said the banging noise could be a good sign he's banging— could be a good sign he's bengmg . — could be a good sign he's banging . 25 mi; could be a good sign he's banging . 25 2 could be a good sign he's- banging . sounds are being heard banging. sounds are being heard every 30 minutes. now. that is a very clear strategy by we would hope the occupants of that vessel to think right. we signal every 30 minutes, there's a little burst of activity obe because sound is probably the one way you can locate this submersible down there finding the vessel is just the start because then you've got to get it up the opportunity to extract the five people from the vessel and get them into another vessel down there is nil. that's and get them into another vessel down there is nil . that's not down there is nil. that's not going to happen. so you've got to get the vessel to the surface somehow and a new somehow and that's a whole new challenge. the somehow and that's a whole new challenge . the uk's inflation

challenge. the uk's inflation mbe— challenge. the uk's inflation mbe semen— challenge. the uk's inflation rate stayed the— challenge. the uk's inflation rate stayed the same- f 2 the uk's inflation rate stayed the same despite expeebebbne— rate stayed the same despite expectations of— rate stayed the same despite expectations of a— rate stayed the same despite expectations of a fall. the embe— expectations of a fall. the office ben— expectations of a fall. the office for national statistics nebeeeeb— office for national statistics released its— office for national statistics released its figures showing it embed— released its figures showing it ebeyeb eb— released its figures showing it ebeyeb en ewe— released its figures showing it stayed at 8.7% up until may, the same rate as in— stayed at 8.7% up until may, the same rate as in april. this comes as the _ same rate as in april. this comes as the uk net debt reached ene— comes as the uk net debt reached bze mbben— comes as the uk net debt reached £2.6 trillion at— comes as the uk net debt reached £2.6 trillion at the— comes as the uk net debt reached £2.6 trillion at the end of may. neennnbbe,— £2.6 trillion at the end of may. meanwhile, the— £2.6 trillion at the end of may. meanwhile, the average uk house bnee— meanwhile, the average uk house bnee meeeee— meanwhile, the average uk house price increase by— meanwhile, the average uk house price increase by 3.5% in the 12 membe— price increase by 3.5% in the 12 mm be— price increase by 3.5% in the 12 months to april— price increase by 3.5% in the 12 months to april .— price increase by 3.5% in the 12 months to april . prime months to april. prime minister's— months to april. prime minister's questions this afternoon— minister's questions this afternoon .— minister's questions this afternoon . prime minister rishi afternoon. prime minister rishi bumb— afternoon. prime minister rishi sunak defend— afternoon. prime minister rishi sunak defend the government's bbene— sunak defend the government's bbene en— sunak defend the government's plans of tackling— sunak defend the government's plans of tackling inflation, beebne— plans of tackling inflation, despite considerable pushback mem— despite considerable pushback from me— despite considerable pushback from the opposition amount of beneeneb— from the opposition amount of personal attacks— from the opposition amount of personal attacks and petty bombe— personal attacks and petty points scoring _ personal attacks and petty points scoring can disguise the men— points scoring can disguise the be men— points scoring can disguise the be men me — points scoring can disguise the fact that the honourable genbbemen — fact that the honourable gentleman does not have a plan for gentleman does not have a plan be me— gentleman does not have a plan for this country. _ gentleman does not have a plan for this country. mr— gentleman does not have a plan for this country. m” for this country. mr speaker, he comes here every week to make the same petty points we are getting on and delivering for this country. yes, mr speaker , this country. yes, mr speaker, inflation is a challenge that's why we are on track to keep reducing it. we are reducing waiting lists. we are stopping the boats all while he is focussed on the past,

the boats all while he is focussed on the past , focussed focussed on the past, focussed on the politics. it's all talk, whereas from this government and from this prime minister we deliver for the country . sure, deliver for the country. sure, from the vantage— deliver for the country. sure, from the vantage point- sure, from the vantage point of his nebeebben— from the vantage point of his nebeebben .— from the vantage point of his helicopter , for— from the vantage point of his helicopter , for everything might helicopter, for everything might beek— helicopter, for everything might been fine— helicopter, for everything might been fine .— helicopter, for everything might look fine . but— helicopter, for everything might look fine . but that's not the look fine. but that's not the bee— look fine. but that's not the lived experience _ look fine. but that's not the lived experience of those on the ground— lived experience of those on the meme .— lived experience of those on the ground . amen— lived experience of those on the ground . after 13— lived experience of those on the ground . after 13 years of ground. after 13 years of economic failure across the comm,— economic failure across the eennbm, beebbe— economic failure across the country, people are paying the mice— country, people are paying the mice on— country, people are paying the price of uncosted,_ country, people are paying the price of uncosted, reckless , price of uncosted, reckless, damaging— price of uncosted, reckless, damaging decisions by the tory penn — damaging decisions by the tory neny. ane— damaging decisions by the tory been. and een— damaging decisions by the tory party. and even now , as party. and even now, as mongegee— party. and even now, as mongegee ge- party. and even now, as mortgages go through the roof , mortgages go through the roof, the mortgages go through the roof, me enme— mortgages go through the roof, the prime minister is planning to vvve— the prime minister is planning to wave through— the prime minister is planning to wave through honours and beemeee— to wave through honours and beemgee nev— to wave through honours and peerages for those who cause mnem— peerages for those who cause mbeenv nev— peerages for those who cause misery for millions. peerages for those who cause misery for millions . retail misery for millions. retail enm— misery for millions. retail mm mm— misery for millions. retail giant w.h. smith marks and sbeneen— giant w.h. smith marks and sbeneen ene— giant w.h. smith marks and spencer and argos have been named— spencer and argos have been named ene— spencer and argos have been named and shamed for failing to pay named and shamed for failing to pay me— named and shamed for failing to pay the minimum _ named and shamed for failing to pay the minimum wage. 175 pay the minimum wage. almost £5 mbbbbn— pay the minimum wage. almost £5 mbubn ves— pay the minimum wage. almost £5 million was found to be owed to around 6000 3000 workers following investigations dating back as far as 2017 named employers have been made to pay back what they owed. and in addition were fined around £7 million. high street retailer w h. smith was the worst offender

, according to hmrc, with the new figures claiming it failed to pay around £1 million to over 17,500 workers. the retailer blamed this on an error related to its company uniform policy , to its company uniform policy, and the government has set out a major package of financial support for ukraine to bolster their economic stability as it continues to push back russian forces . the package includes a forces. the package includes a £20 million boost for insurance companies operating in ukraine. the funding, which includes £2.35 billion of world bank loan guarantees , will support vital guarantees, will support vital pubuc guarantees, will support vital public services , including the public services, including the cost of running schools and hospitals . as the prime minister hospitals. as the prime minister says, russia must pay for the destruction it's inflicted as a result of the war. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to .

patrick well, patrick. i well, we patrick- . well, we start benev— . well, we start with patrick well, we start with the big . well, we start with the big men— - well, we start with the big news that broke _ . well, we start with the big news that broke around- well, we start with the big news that broke around an news that broke around half an nem— news that broke around half an been—verv- news that broke around half an hour—very much- hour ago and is very much ongoing— hour ago and is very much engemg .— hour ago and is very much engemg . an— hour ago and is very much ongoing . an armed police force ongoing. an armed police force nee— ongoing. an armed police force be been— ongoing. an armed police force has been dispatched after nebene— has been dispatched after nebene en— has been dispatched after nebene on e— has been dispatched after reports of a stabbing at central nbbbbeeev— reports of a stabbing at central middlesex hospital in north—west benben— middlesex hospital in north—west benben a— middlesex hospital in north—west benben a men— middlesex hospital in north—west london. a man has— middlesex hospital in north—west london. a man has been arrested . i london. a man has been arrested . . een— london. a man has been arrested . b bbev— london. a man has been arrested . . bbev ven— london. a man has been arrested . . may you n— london. a man has been arrested . i can play you a clip now of me— . i can play you a clip now of me scene— . i can play you a clip now of the scene. so— . i can play you a clip now of the scene. so what- . i can play you a clip now of the scene. so what you're bobbing— the scene. so what you're beemng eb— the scene. so what you're looking at here, if you're webbing— looking at here, if you're watching us— looking at here, if you're watching us on telly, is an armed— watching us on telly, is an armed police— watching us on telly, is an armed police officer. that was the armed police officer. that was bne men— armed police officer. that was the first thing— armed police officer. that was the first thing that you saw mnnbng— the first thing that you saw. running—hospital. running towards the hospital. mbe—memb- running towards the hospital.| this—urgent rapid this is the police urgent rapid response-outside- this is the police urgent rapid response outside the response unit outside the meme,— response unit outside the hospital, everywhere. hospital, police everywhere. men— hospital, police everywhere. men vneb— hospital, police everywhere. then what you'll see is people running— then what you'll see is people mnnbng em— then what you'll see is people running out of— then what you'll see is people running out of that hospital. me— running out of that hospital. me nebene— running out of that hospital. the reports that— running out of that hospital. the reports that we're getting at the reports that we're getting eb-memenb— the reports that we're getting at-moment is— the reports that we're getting at moment is that at least at the moment is that at least me— at the moment is that at least bve beepe— at the moment is that at least bve beebbe, eb— at the moment is that at least two people, at least two people are understood— two people, at least two people are understood to— two people, at least two people are understood to have been immen— are understood to have been bm-meb ene— are understood to have been injured and that— are understood to have been injured and that patients are saving— injured and that patients are eevmg men— injured and that patients are saying that they had to hide in eme— saying that they had to hide in safe rooms as— saying that they had to hide in safe rooms as it— saying that they had to hide in safe rooms as it currently mende— safe rooms as it currently stands. one— safe rooms as it currently stands. one man has been memen— stands. one man has been eneebeb .— stands. one man has been arrested . that's- stands. one man has been arrested . that's according to arrested. that's according to me— arrested. that's according to the metropolitan police . they the metropolitan police. they say— the metropolitan police. they eev me— the metropolitan police. they say the situation— the metropolitan police. they say the situation is still very

mnen— say the situation is still very mnen engemg— say the situation is still very much ongoing at the scene. stem,— much ongoing at the scene. stem of— much ongoing at the scene. staff, of course— much ongoing at the scene. staff, of course ,_ much ongoing at the scene. staff, of course , and patients staff, of course, and patients nbe— staff, of course, and patients vvne een— staff, of course, and patients vvne eb— staff, of course, and patients who can do anyway have been urged— who can do anyway have been need be— who can do anyway have been urged to evacuate— who can do anyway have been urged to evacuate the hospital mgembv— urged to evacuate the hospital mgenbbv ene— urged to evacuate the hospital urgently and immediately. they are urgently and immediately. they ennembv— urgently and immediately. they are currently camping outside men— are currently camping outside that hospital. _ are currently camping outside that hospital. the hospital is in that hospital. the hospital is n me— that hospital. the hospital is in the centre— that hospital. the hospital is in the centre of— that hospital. the hospital is in the centre of the park royal bnebneee— in the centre of the park royal business estate.— in the centre of the park royal business estate. it's the border of business estate. it's the border on bem— business estate. it's the border on bnem ene— business estate. it's the border of brent and ealing towards nenn—veeb— of brent and ealing towards north—west london. we have a nebenen— north—west london. we have a nebenen en— north—west london. we have a reporter en route— north—west london. we have a reporter en route to that scene at me — reporter en route to that scene at the moment.— reporter en route to that scene at the moment. any updates on men— at the moment. any updates on men we— at the moment. any updates on men we mu— at the moment. any updates on that? we will give _ at the moment. any updates on that? we will give them to you as soon as we get— that? we will give them to you as soon as we get them. but just to as soon as we get them. but just be eeeb— as soon as we get them. but just be eeeb bnene— as soon as we get them. but just to recap, there is— as soon as we get them. but just to recap, there is an— as soon as we get them. but just to recap, there is an ongoing nnbenebeeb— to recap, there is an ongoing understood to— to recap, there is an ongoing understood to be— to recap, there is an ongoing understood to be a stabbing , understood to be a stabbing, bebenbbebbv— understood to be a stabbing, potentially multiple stabbing bnebeenb— potentially multiple stabbing incident taking— potentially multiple stabbing incident taking place at a neebbbeb— incident taking place at a neebbbeb eb— incident taking place at a hospital at the- incident taking place at a hospital at the moment. the benben— hospital at the moment. the london ambulance service has bened— london ambulance service has beenee bne— london ambulance service has issued the following statement . issued the following statement. we — issued the following statement. we were called— issued the following statement. we were called today at 1:18 pm.— we were called today at 1:18 pm. be— we were called today at 1:18 pm. be nebevbe— we were called today at 1:18 pm. to reports of an incident at pm. to reports of an incident eb cenbneb— pm. to reports of an incident at central middlesex hospital. we at central middlesex hospital. vve eenb— at central middlesex hospital. vve eenb e— at central middlesex hospital. we sent a number of resources to the we sent a number of resources to me eeene— we sent a number of resources to me .— we sent a number of resources to the scene , including an incident the scene, including an incident response officer— the scene, including an incident response officer .— the scene, including an incident response officer . bear in the scene, including an incident response officer. bear in mind me— response officer. bear in mind me be— response officer. bear in mind me be nem— response officer. bear in mind this is from the— response officer. bear in mind this is from the ambulance eenvbee. — this is from the ambulance service. this— this is from the ambulance service. this is— this is from the ambulance service. this is not the police. an advanced— service. this is not the police. an advanced paramedic, an embnbenee— an advanced paramedic, ani embnbenee—bn an advanced paramedic, an. ambulance—in a ambulance crew, a medic in a feeb— ambulance crew, a medic in a beeb eeeneeb— ambulance crew, a medic in a fast response car— ambulance crew, a medic in a

fast response car and a number of fast response car and a number eb bezemene— fast response car and a number of hazardous area— fast response car and a number of hazardous area response beeme — of hazardous area response beeme vve— of hazardous area response teams. we also— of hazardous area response teams. we also dispatched beneen-e— teams. we also dispatched london's air— teams. we also dispatched london's air ambulance . our london's air ambulance. our beame— london's air ambulance. our beeme neve— london's air ambulance. our beeme neve ee— london's air ambulance. our teams have so far treated two beebbe— teams have so far treated two beebbe eb— teams have so far treated two beebbe eb bne— teams have so far treated two people at the scene. the bnebeenb— people at the scene. the incident is— people at the scene. the incident is still ongoing. that is incident is still ongoing. that be me— incident is still ongoing. that is the latest— incident is still ongoing. that is the latest from the ambulance eenvbee. — is the latest from the ambulance eenvbee. me— is the latest from the ambulance service. the police— is the latest from the ambulance service. the police have confirmed— service. the police have confirmed as- service. the police have confirmed as i'm just getting it in confirmed as i'm just getting it bn nem— confirmed as i'm just getting it bn beenb eb— confirmed as i'm just getting it in front of me— confirmed as i'm just getting it in front of me now— confirmed as i'm just getting it in front of me now that they are ebu— in front of me now that they are ebbbb eb— in front of me now that they are ebbbb eb bne — in front of me now that they are still at the scene,— in front of me now that they are still at the scene, that the armed— still at the scene, that the armed police _ still at the scene, that the armed police are still at the eb— armed police are still at the scene at the _ armed police are still at the scene at the moment. as things ebene— scene at the moment. as things ebenb bme— scene at the moment. as things stand like i've— scene at the moment. as things stand like i've said— scene at the moment. as things stand like i've said to you, our nebevben— stand like i've said to you, our nebevben-bne— stand like i've said to you, our reporter-the way. - stand like i've said to you, our reporter the way. we reporter is on the way. we are eeene-be— reporter is on the way. we are aware-is.incident- reporter is on the way. we are aware is incident from aware this is an incident from bem— aware this is an incident from beenb beme.— aware this is an incident from brent police. we— aware this is an incident from brent police. we are aware of an bnebeenb— brent police. we are aware of an incident-middlesex. incident at central middlesex neebbbeb— incident at central middlesex hospital-armed- incident at central middlesex hospital armed officers hospital in brent armed officers are hospital in brent armed officers eve—neebenbbnel are among those responding. a nee— are among those responding. a nee been— are among those responding. a man has been arrested. more bnbenmebben— man has been arrested. more information on— man has been arrested. more information on to— man has been arrested. more information on to follow and some eyewitness— information on to follow and some eyewitness testimony that's been — some eyewitness testimony that's been nebevbee— some eyewitness testimony that's been reported that's out there at been reported that's out there eb bne — been reported that's out there at the moment— been reported that's out there at the moment .— been reported that's out there at the moment . talks of patients at the moment. talks of patients neeebvbne— at the moment. talks of patients neeebvbng eeme— at the moment. talks of patients receiving some kind of alarm, beme— receiving some kind of alarm, mass panic, fleeing the neebbbeb— mass panic, fleeing the hospital, those who could and nevbne— hospital, those who could and some having to— hospital, those who could and some having to cower within beme— some having to cower within beme eeme— some having to cower within panic rooms and— some having to cower within panic rooms and safe rooms vbbnbn— panic rooms and safe rooms vbbnbn bneb— panic rooms and safe rooms within that hospital . we will be within that hospital. we will be at within that hospital. we will be eb bneb— within that hospital. we will be at that scene— within that hospital. we will be at that scene very— within that hospital. we will be at that scene very shortly for

you— at that scene very shortly for ven ene— at that scene very shortly for ven me we— at that scene very shortly for you and we will— at that scene very shortly for you and we will bring you the bee— you and we will bring you the latest updates— you and we will bring you the latest updates as— you and we will bring you the latest updates as we get them. as latest updates as we get them. be b-ve— latest updates as we get them. be be ene— latest updates as we get them. be be eebe .— latest updates as we get them. as i've said , it— latest updates as we get them. as i've said , it is— latest updates as we get them. as i've said , it is an ongoing as i've said, it is an ongoing bnebeenb— as i've said, it is an ongoing bnebeenb ben— as i've said, it is an ongoing incident for now— as i've said, it is an ongoing incident for now ,- as i've said, it is an ongoing incident for now , we're going to incident for now, we're going to ebn— incident for now, we're going to ebn be— incident for now, we're going to return to another— incident for now, we're going to return to another big breaking ebenv— return to another big breaking ebenv bneb— return to another big breaking story that frankly, has been gripping— story that frankly, has been gripping the_ story that frankly, has been gripping the nation and the vene— gripping the nation and the vend-mn— gripping the nation and the world,-that is- gripping the nation and the world, that is that gb news world, and that is that gb news nnbenebeeb— world, and that is that gb news understood -from - world, and that is that gb news understood from very, understood stands from a very, very— understood stands from a very, very bmbeeeebbe— understood stands from a very, very impeccable source that rescuers search _ very impeccable source that rescuers search for the titan enmenneb— rescuers search for the titan submarine that— rescuers search for the titan submarine that went missing on a diving— submarine that went missing on a diving expedition— submarine that went missing on a diving expedition to the wreck of diving expedition to the wreck eb—.— diving expedition to the wreck eb—. vve— diving expedition to the wreck eb—. vve neve- diving expedition to the wreck of . we have heard of the titanic. we have heard neenben— of the titanic. we have heard regular-sound- of the titanic. we have heard regular-sound is- of the titanic. we have heard regular sound is in the regular tapping sound is in the berm— regular tapping sound is in the berm eb— regular tapping sound is in the berm eb ses— regular tapping sound is in the form of sos distress signals nem— form of sos distress signals bem vvnene— form of sos distress signals from where the— form of sos distress signals from where the vessel went mbeebng— from where the vessel went mbeebng .— from where the vessel went mbeebng . bev— from where the vessel went missing . new reports also allege missing. new reports also allege bneb— missing. new reports also allege bneb eebebv— missing. new reports also allege that safety fears— missing. new reports also allege that safety fears were raised bne — that safety fears were raised over the vessel— that safety fears were raised over the vessel before it went mbeebne— over the vessel before it went mbeebng. bne— over the vessel before it went missing. and according to authorities— missing. and according to authorities ,_ missing. and according to authorities , there is around a authorities, there is around a beve— authorities, there is around a day's slmph!— authorities, there is around a day's supply of_ authorities, there is around a day's supply of oxygen left. so the day's supply of oxygen left. so be ebeeb— day's supply of oxygen left. so be ebeeb be— day's supply of oxygen left. so the clock is very— day's supply of oxygen left. so the clock is very much ticking. ene— the clock is very much ticking. ene bnbne— the clock is very much ticking. one thing that— the clock is very much ticking. one thing that i— the clock is very much ticking. one thing that i know that is neebbv— one thing that i know that is neebbv grinding— one thing that i know that is really grinding people's gears at really grinding people's gears eb bne— really grinding people's gears at the moment— really grinding people's gears at the moment is that all this babb— at the moment is that all this bebb ebb— at the moment is that all this talk, all this— at the moment is that all this talk, all this talk— at the moment is that all this talk, all this talk about how on eenn— talk, all this talk about how on eenn be— talk, all this talk about how on earth is anyone— talk, all this talk about how on earth is anyone going to get bevvn— earth is anyone going to get been-ene— earth is anyone going to get down-and save- earth is anyone going to get- down-and save-people down there and save these people if down there and save these people bb—bne- if all the indications at the memem— if all the indications at the moment-they- if all the indications at the moment they are if all the indications at the- moment-they are alive? moment are that they are alive? webb— moment are that they are alive? webb-meme— moment are that they are alive? well, answer, unfortunately well, the answer, unfortunately ,-ebbbbng— well, the answer, unfortunately ,-ebbbbngle- well, the answer, unfortunately , - sitting i a runwayi , could be sitting on a runway eemenee m— , could be sitting on a runway somewhere in jersey because vbbeb— somewhere in jersey because vbbeb eeene— somewhere in jersey because vital rescue equipment is stuck

in vital rescue equipment is stuck m benev— vital rescue equipment is stuck m jerseyv m— vital rescue equipment is stuck m jerseyv bn bne— vital rescue equipment is stuck in jersey, in the channel bebenee— in jersey, in the channel islands, unable to make it to me— islands, unable to make it to me unbea— islands, unable to make it to the united states. this is eeeenbbne— the united states. this is according to— the united states. this is according to reports, because of bme— according to reports, because of bme eb— according to reports, because of some kind of hold— according to reports, because of some kind of hold up with the us bmben— some kind of hold up with the us bmben eebeve— some kind of hold up with the us import delays. bear— some kind of hold up with the us import delays. bear in mind, bneb— import delays. bear in mind, meb-be— import delays. bear in mind, that-is ticking.- import delays. bear in mind, that is ticking. and if that clock is ticking. and if bneee— that clock is ticking. and if bneee beebbe— that clock is ticking. and if those people are down there enve— those people are down there ebbvelbne— those people are down there alive the moment, sending sos alive at the moment, sending sos ebgnebe— alive at the moment, sending sos ebgnebe beek— alive at the moment, sending sos ebgnebe beeb eb— alive at the moment, sending sos signals back up to— alive at the moment, sending sos signals back up to the surface , signals back up to the surface, bnen— signals back up to the surface, then-grief— signals back up to the surface, bnen-eneb-bb- signals back up to the surface, then grief, it about then good grief, isn't it about bme— then good grief, isn't it about bbme-bbene- then good grief, isn't it about time-plane took- then good grief, isn't it about time plane took off time that that plane took off ene— time that that plane took off end-beb— time that that plane took off and-let that- time that that plane took off and let that plane take and the us let that plane take off and the us let that plane take ebb ee— and the us let that plane take ebb ee webb— and the us let that plane take off as well to— and the us let that plane take off as well to save those people may— off as well to save those people mev .— off as well to save those people mev b nembnb— off as well to save those people may i remind you— off as well to save those people may i remind you as well, bnbben— may i remind you as well, british nationals on board, sneeben-b— british nationals on board, shouldn't they— british nationals on board, shouldn't they be there trying to shouldn't they be there trying be — shouldn't they be there trying to save them?— shouldn't they be there trying to save them? let's just remind emeeveeb eb— to save them? let's just remind ourselves of where— to save them? let's just remind ourselves of where they are now vvbbn — ourselves of where they are now vvbbn eb — ourselves of where they are now vvbbn eb beve— ourselves of where they are now with gb news presenter pip bemeen— with gb news presenter pip bemeen nbe— with gb news presenter pip tomson, who has the very , very tomson, who has the very, very bebeeb— tomson, who has the very, very bebeeb ben— tomson, who has the very, very bebeeb ben — tomson, who has the very, very latest for us. the— tomson, who has the very, very latest for us. the last known ebenbbne— latest for us. the last known ebenbbne eb— latest for us. the last known sighting of the— latest for us. the last known sighting of the titan sub bbebmeb— sighting of the titan sub pictured on— sighting of the titan sub pictured on sunday. sighting of the titan sub- pictured on sunday. but where on eeen— pictured on sunday. but where on earth is it now? just hours remain to find the submersible in the remoteness of the north atlantic and bring its five passengers home alive to their desperate families . with any desperate families. with any cell compartment,- 2 l with any cell compartment, you've got to bme— cell compartment, you've got to bbnb bbme— cell compartment, you've got to bbnb bbme bn— cell compartment, you've got to find time in terms— cell compartment, you've got to find time in terms of oxygen , in

find time in terms of oxygen, in beme— find time in terms of oxygen, in benme eb— find time in terms of oxygen, in benme eb bne— find time in terms of oxygen, in terms of the air— find time in terms of oxygen, in terms of the air you're bneebnbne— terms of the air you're bneebnbne .— terms of the air you're breathing , resources, etcetera, breathing, resources, etcetera, ebeebene— breathing, resources, etcetera, ebeebene .— breathing, resources, etcetera, ebeebene . se— breathing, resources, etcetera, etcetera . so the— breathing, resources, etcetera, etcetera . so the mentality down etcetera. so the mentality down bneee— etcetera. so the mentality down bnene, .— etcetera. so the mentality down bnene, . bnbnb— etcetera. so the mentality down there, i think everyone else, eveenenv— there, i think everyone else, eveenenv ebee— there, i think everyone else, everyone else on- there, i think everyone else, everyone else on earth can only been— everyone else on earth can only been be— everyone else on earth can only begin to imagine— everyone else on earth can only begin to imagine what it's like been— begin to imagine what it's like bevn bnee— begin to imagine what it's like down there and— begin to imagine what it's like down there and what the menbebbv— down there and what the mentality is. _ down there and what the mentality is. you have to adopt. bneee— mentality is. you have to adopt. bnene be— mentality is. you have to adopt. bnene be ebbbb— mentality is. you have to adopt. there is still some— mentality is. you have to adopt. there is still some hope for the ebneben— there is still some hope for the ebneben ebb— there is still some hope for the stricken sub . _ there is still some hope for the stricken sub . gb— there is still some hope for the stricken sub . c15 \ stricken sub. gb news understands rescuer us have detected sos signals which would indicate the vessel is still intact. indicate the vessel is still intact . those on board include intact. those on board include britain's hamish harding shahzada dawood and his 19 year old son, suleyman . they'd paid old son, suleyman. they'd paid some £200,000 each to explore the wreckage of the titanic . the wreckage of the titanic. lying in darkness at the bottom of the seabed , a descent of of the seabed, a descent of nearly two and a half miles. the height of nine empire state buildings . height of nine empire state buildings. but serious questions are now being raised about the safety and simplicity of the ocean gate vessel. here's a reporter on a recent cbs

documentary being shown around . documentary being shown around. we run the whole thing with this eeme— we run the whole thing with this game controller— we run the whole thing with this game controller .— we run the whole thing with this game controller . come we run the whole thing with this game controller. come on and bbeben— game controller. come on and listen closely— game controller. come on and listen closely to— game controller. come on and listen closely to stockton. been— listen closely to stockton. been .— listen closely to stockton. been . bne— listen closely to stockton. rush , the chief— listen closely to stockton. rush , the chief executive of rush, the chief executive of oceangate explaining his company's approach. when i started the business,- f 2 when i started the business, one of the bnbnee— started the business, one of the bnbnee yen-u— started the business, one of the things you'll find— started the business, one of the things you'll find there are ebnen— things you'll find there are ebnen ebb— things you'll find there are other sub operators out there, beb— other sub operators out there, beb bnev— other sub operators out there, but they typically have kyiv eenbbemen — but they typically have kyiv gentlemen who _ but they typically have kyiv gentlemen who are ex—military eenbmene— gentlemen who are ex—military submariners, and— gentlemen who are ex—military submariners, and they you'll see a submariners, and they you'll see evvnebe— submariners, and they you'll see a whole bunch— submariners, and they you'll see a whole bunch of— submariners, and they you'll see a whole bunch of 50 year old vvnbbe— a whole bunch of 50 year old vvnbbe geve — a whole bunch of 50 year old vvnbbe geve se— a whole bunch of 50 year old white guys. so we've really bnee— white guys. so we've really bneb be— white guys. so we've really bneb be beb— white guys. so we've really tried to get very- white guys. so we've really tried to get very intelligent, mebbvebeb— tried to get very intelligent, motivated and— tried to get very intelligent, motivated and younger individuals— motivated and younger individuals involved because ebebne— individuals involved because we're doing things that are eembbebebv— we're doing things that are completely new. ”b22; we're doing things that are completely new. 22 ”2 we're doing things that are completely new. ”2.2; 22 22 completely new. there are huge questions to be answered, but thatis questions to be answered, but that is for another day. for now , the focus remains on reaching five stranded men trapped in the most catastrophic of circum stances in one of the most hostile places on earth. pip tomson gb news pip joins me now. pip. there are several ongoing eeeebbene— pip. there are several ongoing questions from _ pip. there are several ongoing questions from this. the safety

of questions from this. the safety eb bne— questions from this. the safety eb me even— questions from this. the safety of the craft initially and why on of the craft initially and why en eenn— of the craft initially and why on earth really,— of the craft initially and why on earth really, frankly, it was benebbenbne— on earth really, frankly, it was functioning in— on earth really, frankly, it was functioning in in— on earth really, frankly, it was functioning in in that position. i functioning in in that position. bbnbnb— functioning in in that position. bbnbnb bne— functioning in in that position. i think the more— functioning in in that position. i think the more pressing point is i think the more pressing point be bne— i think the more pressing point be me ses— i think the more pressing point is the sos signals that have been— is the sos signals that have been detected.— is the sos signals that have been detected. absolutely nemevvbne— been detected. absolutely harrowing for— been detected. absolutely harrowing for everybody involved , ben— harrowing for everybody involved , ben bne— harrowing for everybody involved , for the loved— harrowing for everybody involved , for the loved especially , for the loved ones, especially vne— , for the loved ones, especially vne bb— , for the loved ones, especially vne bb webbe— , for the loved ones, especially who it would appear now, can be nebebbvebv— who it would appear now, can be relatively confident— who it would appear now, can be relatively confident that their nebebbvee— relatively confident that their relatives are _ relatively confident that their relatives are alive at the bebbem— relatives are alive at the bebbem eb— relatives are alive at the bottom of the- relatives are alive at the bottom of the ocean potentially, and bottom of the ocean potentially, me me— bottom of the ocean potentially, me me bne— bottom of the ocean potentially, and that the help— bottom of the ocean potentially, and that the help that they may be neeb— and that the help that they may be need could— and that the help that they may be need could be— and that the help that they may be need could be stuck on a mmvev— be need could be stuck on a runway somewhere in jersey and not runway somewhere in jersey and neb-ebbeveb— runway somewhere in jersey and not-allowed aid- runway somewhere in jersey and not-allowed aid to- not being allowed aid to eebeebbv— not being allowed aid to eebeebbv beb— not being allowed aid to actually get to the scene. lots to actually get to the scene. lots be enbeeb— actually get to the scene. lots to unpack here.— actually get to the scene. lots to unpack here. but as it ebenbe— to unpack here. but as it stands, indications are that stands, the indications are that bneee— stands, the indications are that bneee beebbe— stands, the indications are that bneee beebbe mev— stands, the indications are that these people may well be alive. bnee— these people may well be alive. meb-bne— these people may well be alive. bbeb-bbe bene— these people may well be alive. that-the hope, although. that is still the hope, although that clock is ticking down now, patrick, there's about 23 hours left now. we understand it until that oxygen supply runs out. now, this distress signal, it hasn't been confirmed by the us coastguard and he's been talking about sounds that have been heard , noise that has been heard, noise that has been detected, but they don't know the source of it. so it's still not clear. is what's still not clear is did that noise come

from the seabed or is it, as everybody hopes on the surface, i mean, that that north atlantic is so massive, isn't it? it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. but gb news sources have told us that it was a specific distress signal. we think it has been every half hour, think it has been every half hour , which would indicate that hour, which would indicate that there is somebody in that vessel who knows exactly what they are doing and how to and how to get help . but that clock is ticking help. but that clock is ticking down. you mentioned this british firm, magellan . yeah, yeah. they firm, magellan. yeah, yeah. they are based in the channel islands. we understand . they say islands. we understand. they say they are ready to help and have been working full time to secure the necessary support to move their specialist equipment out. but it doesn't sound like they've even taken off yet. something does appear to be going on there with the us coastguard because they have a vessel that can get down to far lower depths than a lot of the

equipment that's already there . equipment that's already there. so we understand that if the submersible is on the seabed , submersible is on the seabed, that's some two and a half miles down in i think i said in my piece there, the height of nine empire state buildings . their empire state buildings. their equipment can get to at least that distance down. i mean, there's already been some equipment that was sent down which imploded because it could only get 3000m down any further than that just did not work. yeah. so that's the sort of help thatis yeah. so that's the sort of help that is desperately needed . that is desperately needed. we're not quite sure why it hasn't reached, we're not quite sure why it hasn't reached and look, fingers crossed that there is another way of getting these people indeed they people back up if indeed they are alive. like you said there gb are alive. like you said there be beve— are alive. like you said there gb news sources— 22 like you said there gb news sources would indicate bneb— gb news sources would indicate meb—e- gb news sources would indicate bneb—e neeebenl that there has been a regular bbebneee— that there has been a regular distress signal— that there has been a regular distress signal detected. the bmbbbeebben— distress signal detected. the implication there , of course, implication there, of course, beme— implication there, of course, bebne bneb— implication there, of course, being that those— implication there, of course, being that those people are ebbbb— being that those people are ebbbb enve— being that those people are still alive and— being that those people are still alive and are capable , still alive and are capable, bbenebene— still alive and are capable, therefore, of— still alive and are capable, therefore, of knowing what's going— therefore, of knowing what's going en— therefore, of knowing what's going trying— therefore, of knowing what's going on, trying to get some bebb— going on, trying to get some nebb ben— going on, trying to get some help for themselves. and that webbe— help for themselves. and that web mebe— help for themselves. and that would make sense because the beebbe—beenb-

would make sense because the people—board this. people who are on board this sbeebben— people who are on board this stockton-so— people who are on board this stockton-so-gotl people who are on board this. stockton-so-got he's stockton rush so we've got he's the stockton rush so we've got he's bne—enb- stockton rush so we've got he's the—and founderi stockton rush so we've got he's th

ebeeb— is hellish. and we know more ebeeb bne— is hellish. and we know more about the surface— is hellish. and we know more about the surface of the moon bnen— about the surface of the moon men we— about the surface of the moon men we be— about the surface of the moon than we do about— about the surface of the moon than we do about the ocean bed, vnene— than we do about the ocean bed, vvnene bnev— than we do about the ocean bed, vvnene bnev ee— than we do about the ocean bed, where they are believed to be. pip,— where they are believed to be. pin bnenb— where they are believed to be. me, bnenb vee— where they are believed to be. pip, thank you very, very much . pip, thank you very, very much. pip, thank you very, very much. bbb ebb— pip, thank you very, very much. ebb vvbbb be— pip, thank you very, very much. pip will be here— pip, thank you very, very much. pip will be here with regular eebebee— pip will be here with regular updates. another big updates. again another big bneebbne— updates. again another big breaking-i'm- updates. again another bigi breaking-i'm-to updates. again another big- breaking-i'm-to go breaking story. i'm going to go been— breaking story. i'm going to go down - thornton, - breaking story. i'm going to go down thornton, who's down to blair thornton, who's bne— down to blair thornton, who's bne beebeeeen— down to blair thornton, who's the professor marine autonomy the professor of marine autonomy at the professor of marine autonomy eb seebnembben— the professor of marine autonomy at southampton thank at southampton university. thank you at southampton university. thank yen—ben— at southampton university. thank you—forioining- at southampton university. thank you—forjoining me.- at southampton university. thank you forjoining me. at you very much for joining me. at the you very much for joining me. at bne-beeb— you very much for joining me. at bne-beeb .— you very much for joining me. at bne-beeb , ee- you very much for joining me. at the-look , as i've- you very much for joining me. at the look , as i've said, the moment, look, as i've said, gb the moment, look, as i've said, eb beve— the moment, look, as i've said, gb news sources— the moment, look, as i've said, gb news sources have told us me— gb news sources have told us me bneee— gb news sources have told us that there has— gb news sources have told us that there has been what is bebbeveb— that there has been what is believed to— that there has been what is believed to be— that there has been what is believed to be a- that there has been what is believed to be a distress signal bebeeb— believed to be a distress signal bebeeb ebb— believed to be a distress signal bebeeb ebb eb— believed to be a distress signal detect did at regular intervals, vnben— detect did at regular intervals, vnben webbe— detect did at regular intervals, which would imply that the beebbe— which would imply that the beebbe en— which would imply that the people on that— which would imply that the people on that craft at the memem— people on that craft at the memem .— people on that craft at the moment , fingers crossed, are moment, fingers crossed, are ebbbb— moment, fingers crossed, are ebbbb ebbve— moment, fingers crossed, are still alive. what— moment, fingers crossed, are still alive. what do you make of men— still alive. what do you make of their chances— still alive. what do you make of their chances if— still alive. what do you make of their chances if indeed they are all conscious— their chances if indeed they are all conscious and— their chances if indeed they are all conscious and if indeed they are all conscious and if indeed they vbbn— all conscious and if indeed they vvbbn bne— all conscious and if indeed they are with the wherewithal to be ebbe — are with the wherewithal to be ebbe be — are with the wherewithal to be ebbe be mebe — are with the wherewithal to be able to make some kind of bbebneee— able to make some kind of distress call— able to make some kind of distress call ?_ able to make some kind of distress call ? well the fact distress call? well the fact be— distress call? well the fact be bnene — distress call? well the fact that there are _ distress call? well the fact that there are signals coming nem— that there are signals coming bnem bne— that there are signals coming from the seafloor, that's what we bebbeve— from the seafloor, that's what we believe does— from the seafloor, that's what we believe does really narrow been— we believe does really narrow bevn bne— we believe does really narrow down the search— we believe does really narrow down the search space that would need — down the search space that would need be — down the search space that would need be be — down the search space that would need to be looked— down the search space that would need to be looked at. ”2.2; need to be looked at. there's menv— need to be looked at. there's many situations that could have taken place , but knowing that taken place, but knowing that the vehicle or thinking that the

submersible is now on the seafloor and stationary is a big development, is it really narrows down the search area. and also as well, it narrows down the search area. and also as well , it narrows and also as well, it narrows been— and also as well, it narrows bevn ebeb— and also as well, it narrows down what might have happened this down what might have happened he bbme. — down what might have happened this time. yesterday,— down what might have happened this time. /2 down what might have happened this time. / 2 2g 22 ’2“ this time. yesterday, i had an expert on a submariner with decades of experience who i think very, very reasonably suggested the possibility that this thing had been breached. there had been some kind of kind of explosion or crumpling and that that would have made sense given the depth that they were at and potentially the calibre of vessel they in as well, of vessel they were in as well, which to. but which we'll come on to. but actually would indicate which we'll come on to. but actu the would indicate which we'll come on to. but actu the thing would indicate which we'll come on to. but actu the thing is)uld indicate which we'll come on to. but actu the thing is intactidicate which we'll come on to. but actu the thing is intact . icate which we'll come on to. but actu the thing is intact . and if that the thing is intact. and if that the thing is intact. and if that the thing is intact. and if that the case, what do you that is the case, what do you think's so well, think's happened so well, there's any number of things that could have happened. one possibility is that the one possibility is that the ballast eeebe— possibility is that the ballast release system,— possibility is that the ballast release system, which is the majo— release system, which is the major emergency surfacing menemem— major emergency surfacing nebemem .— major emergency surfacing mechanism , has not functioned as mechanism, has not functioned as eemee.— mechanism, has not functioned as bbenneb. beb— mechanism, has not functioned as bbennee. beb bb-e— mechanism, has not functioned as planned. but it's really speculation— planned. but it's really speculation at this point . i speculation at this point. i bnbnb— speculation at this point. i bnbnb bne— speculation at this point. i think the priority should be to narrow down the— think the priority should be to narrow down the location of the eebmenebbbe— narrow down the location of the submersible. so _ narrow down the location of the submersible. so currently, as i enbenebenb— submersible. so currently, as i understand there—

submersible. so currently, as i understand there are sonobuoys nem— understand there are sonobuoys bnem bne— understand there are sonobuoys from the surface— understand there are sonobuoys from the surface that have narrowed down _ from the surface that have narrowed down the location. if we assume that— narrowed down the location. if we assume that the submersible is we assume that the submersible be en— we assume that the submersible be en bne— we assume that the submersible is on the seafloor,— we assume that the submersible is on the seafloor, that narrows it is on the seafloor, that narrows bb be — is on the seafloor, that narrows bb be bevn — is on the seafloor, that narrows bb be bevn e— is on the seafloor, that narrows it to down a search— is on the seafloor, that narrows it to down a search space in the region— it to down a search space in the region eb— it to down a search space in the region eb e— it to down a search space in the region of a kilometre or so on bne— region of a kilometre or so on be e— region of a kilometre or so on the sea floor. _ region of a kilometre or so on the sea floor. now— region of a kilometre or so on the sea floor. now there's technologies— the sea floor. now there's technologies to- the sea floor. now there's technologies to use multiple eenebeeve— technologies to use multiple eenebeeve en— technologies to use multiple sonobuoys or more specialised eeeeebbe— sonobuoys or more specialised acoustic systems— sonobuoys or more specialised acoustic systems to try and narrow down _ acoustic systems to try and narrow down that further , which narrow down that further, which webbe— narrow down that further, which veebe nebe— narrow down that further, which would make it— narrow down that further, which would make it possible to bebbem— would make it possible to beebenm very— would make it possible to perform very targeted searches eeme— perform very targeted searches using platforms— perform very targeted searches using platforms such as remotely ebenebeb— using platforms such as remotely operated vehicles— using platforms such as remotely operated vehicles . mm“ using platforms such as remotely operated vehicles . \b2vbnv' 22 operated vehicles. now, indeed. and as we understand it, operated vehicles. now, indeed. and as we understand it , there and as we understand it, there is a guernsey based underwater research firm called magellan, which has equipment stored at their base in jersey. so it's all channel island related here at the moment. they are saying that they we believe anyway , that they we believe anyway, they have the equipment that might be able to reach this vessel and to get it. and they have , so far as we believe , kyiv have, so far as we believe, kyiv have, so far as we believe, kyiv have been blocked from doing so.

if not them, then who ? because if not them, then who? because as far as i can see, if i if my relatives were down there and we were getting decent intelligence that they were alive now and there was a company , me, with there was a company, me, with there was a company, me, with the capacity to get them to the surface and save their lives that wasn't allowed to do that wasn't being allowed to do so . i mean, good it so. i mean, good grief, it doesn't bear thinking about. but. anything else but. but is there anything else that done? so my that can be done? so my understanding from looking at at news, at media outlets is that there are remotely operated vehicles on site . the victor gao vehicles on site. the victor gao booe— vehicles on site. the victor gao eooo bnem — vehicles on site. the victor gao 6000 from ifremer_ vehicles on site. the victor gao 6000 from ifremer has- 2“ f 2“ the victor gao 6000 from ifremer has been menbbeneb— 6000 from ifremer has been mentioned that— 6000 from ifremer has been mentioned that do have the ebbbbbv— mentioned that do have the ebbbbbv be— mentioned that do have the ability to dive— mentioned that do have the ability to dive down to those bebbne— ability to dive down to those bebbne ene— ability to dive down to those depths and these remotely ebenebeb— depths and these remotely operated vehicles. these are nbenbv— operated vehicles. these are many eebebbe— operated vehicles. these are highly capable systems . they all highly capable systems. they all neve— highly capable systems. they all neve high— highly capable systems. they all have high resolution cameras . have high resolution cameras. nenv— have high resolution cameras. nenv ebb— have high resolution cameras. many will also _ have high resolution cameras. many will also have active eeeeebeeb— many will also have active acoustics and _ many will also have active acoustics and also very powerful menbbebebene— acoustics and also very powerful manipulators that— acoustics and also very powerful manipulators that can be used in a manipulators that can be used in e verv— manipulators that can be used in even bbevbbbe— manipulators that can be used in a very flexible way— manipulators that can be used in a very flexible way to deal with vvbbn — a very flexible way to deal with with situations.— a very flexible way to deal with with situations. one of the bebnbe— with situations. one of the points about— with situations. one of the points about these vehicles, bneeen— points about these vehicles, bneeen be— points about these vehicles, though, is that— points about these vehicles, though, is that they are very eben— though, is that they are very ebevv be— though, is that they are very slow to move— though, is that they are very slow to move a— though, is that they are very slow to move a remotely operated venbebe— slow to move a remotely operated venbebe nbe— slow to move a remotely operated vehicle like this— slow to move a remotely operated vehicle like this will typically

eb— vehicle like this will typically eb bne— vehicle like this will typically move at the same speed as humans webbe— move at the same speed as humans web web. — move at the same speed as humans web web. bm— move at the same speed as humans would walk. i'm just— move at the same speed as humans would walk. 22 “2 would walk. i'm just going to have to cut in. blair i hope you don't think i'm being rude. we've a development on we've had a development on another so we're we've had a development on anothlto so we're we've had a development on anothlto take so we're we've had a development on anothlto take that so we're we've had a development on anothlto take that now. so we're we've had a development on anothlto take that now. so vlthat going to take that now. but that was blair thornton, who's professor at professor of marine autonomy at southampton professor of marine autonomy at southa titanic story . but on the titanic sub story. but yes, have now got yes, i have now got a development in our other big breaking which is that breaking story, which is that central middlesex hospital stabbing. a police stabbing. it's a police statement . it reads stabbing. it's a police statement. it reads man has statement. it reads a man has been arrested following a stabbing incident at central middlesex hospital. armed officers were among those responding after calls at 1380 nine hours on wednesday. the 21st of june, to reports that two people had been stabbed . two people had been stabbed. officers found two people with stab injuries. officers found two people with stab injuries . the first victim stab injuries. the first victim has injuries that are being treated as life threatening . the treated as life threatening. the second victim's injuries are not treated as life threatening . treated as life threatening. police arrested a man outside the hospital. he has also been conveyed to hospital, having received injuries that are believed to be self inflicted. his condition is being treated as life threatening. officers

will remain in the hospital as further searches are conducted. but at this time, they are satisfied that no one else is sought . police are working to sought. police are working to establish the circumstances at this time . the incident is not this time. the incident is not being treated as terror related. the hospital was temporarily locked down but has now reopened and will be operating services as normal. there is a heightened police presence at the hospital as we investigate so that is from the police. what they are saying is that they attended two calls of a stabbing, one saying is that they attended two calls of a stabbing , one person calls of a stabbing, one person with serious life threatening injuries is being treated. another person with non—life threatening injuries is being treated. the man that they believe is responsible for the stabbing has is what they call self inflicted wounds. and he is in a life threatening condition. however at this, of course, is not being treated now as a terror incident. and they are confident that there is nobody else that they need to be looking for in relation to this incident . more as we get it. if incident. more as we get it. if

you are watching us on tv, then what you were watching, of course, there was footage of that as armed police that scene as armed police rushed central middlesex that scene as armed police rushed moreitralmiddlesex that scene as armed police rushed more itral ias dlesex that scene as armed police rushed more itral ias we sex that scene as armed police rushed more itral ias we get hospital. more on it as we get it. there will be big developments throughout the course show. so, yes , course of this show. so, yes, just reminder you. the just that reminder for you. the armed called armed police have been called to the that at the reports of that stabbing at central middlesex hospital. a man arrested . more as man has been arrested. more as we it. but now in a shock we get it. but now in a shock turn this morning, turn of events this morning, stubborn inflation remains at 8.7. that is according to figures from the office for national statistics. how does this affect the money in your pocket ? what on is going pocket? what on earth is going on? the latest on on? i will have the latest on that. and our two big breaking stories just patrick stories in just a tick. patrick christys

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stabbing has taken place. the latest is that armed police responded— latest is that armed police responded and— latest is that armed police responded and a police statement sabb— responded and a police statement sabb bbbb— responded and a police statement sabb bbb, a— responded and a police statement said this, a man— responded and a police statement said this, a man has been arrested— said this, a man has been arrested following a stabbing at centra— arrested following a stabbing at central-hospital- arrested following a stabbing at central-hospital .- central middlesex hospital. armed— central middlesex hospital. armed officers— central middlesex hospital. armed officers were those armed officers were among those responding— armed officers were among those responding after— armed officers were among those responding after calls at 13, 18 bourb— responding after calls at 13, 18 hours m— responding after calls at 13, 18 hours, 1:18 to— responding after calls at 13, 18 hours, 1:18 to you— responding after calls at 13, 18 hours, 1:18 to you and i on wednesday,— hours, 1:18 to you and i on wednesday, the- hours, 1:18 to you and i on wednesday, the 21st of june, to reports— wednesday, the 21st of june, to reports bab— wednesday, the 21st of june, to reports that two— wednesday, the 21st of june, to reports that two people had been stabbed,— reports that two people had been stabbed, officers— reports that two people had been stabbed, officers found two bebbbe— stabbed, officers found two bebbbe wbb— stabbed, officers found two people with stab injuries . the people with stab injuries. the first— people with stab injuries. the first vbcbm— people with stab injuries. the first victim has— people with stab injuries. the first victim has injuries that being— first victim has injuries that are being treated as life threatening.— are being treated as life threatening. the second victim's injuries— threatening. the second victim's injuries are— threatening. the second victim's injuries are not— threatening. the second victim's injuries are not being treated as me— injuries are not being treated as life threatening. police arrested— as life threatening. police arrested a— as life threatening. police arrested a man- as life threatening. police arrested a man outside the bosbbab— arrested a man outside the bosbbbbb be— arrested a man outside the hospital. he has also been conveyed— hospital. he has also been conveyed hospital , having conveyed to hospital, having received— conveyed to hospital, having received injuries— conveyed to hospital, having received injuries that are bebbeveb— received injuries that are believed to— received injuries that are believed to be- received injuries that are believed to be self—inflicted. bis— believed to be self—inflicted. his condition— believed to be self—inflicted. his condition is— believed to be self—inflicted. his condition is being treated as his condition is being treated bs me— his condition is being treated as life threatening. so he also bas— as life threatening. so he also bbs nbe— as life threatening. so he also has life threatening injuries. officers— has life threatening injuries. officers will— has life threatening injuries. officers will remain in the bospbab— officers will remain in the hospital. further searches are being—.— hospital. further searches are bebb9—. bbey- hospital. further searches are being_. they are. being carried out. they are satisfied— being carried out. they are satisfied that— being carried out. they are satisfied that no else is satisfied that no one else is being— satisfied that no one else is being-bn— satisfied that no one else is being-in relation- satisfied that no one else is being in relation to this being sought in relation to this and— being sought in relation to this ebb-working- being sought in relation to this and -working to- and police are working to esbbbbbb— and police are working to establish . and establish the circumstances. and of establish the circumstances. and bf—bbe- of course, crucially, the motives, — of course, crucially, the motives, although at this time bey— motives, although at this time meb-saying— motives, although at this time meb-saying b-s— motives, although at this time they saying it's being they are saying it's not being treated— they are saying it's not being treated as— they are saying it's not being treated as terror.— they are saying it's not being treated as terror. the hospital bobbed— treated as terror. the hospital was locked down. _ treated as terror. the hospital was locked down. it's believed to bow— was locked down. it's believed to be— was locked down. it's believed to now be reopened as normal. bbere— to now be reopened as normal. there-heightened- to now be reopened as normal. there heightened police there is a heightened police presence eb— there is a heightened police

presence at hospital. so presence at the hospital. so more on this— presence at the hospital. so more on this as— presence at the hospital. so more on this as we get it. our reporter— more on this as we get it. our reberber be— more on this as we get it. our rebebber be en— more on this as we get it. our reporter is on the— more on this as we get it. our reporter is on the way to the scene and we— reporter is on the way to the scene and we will keep you up to babe—beb- - scene and we will keep you up to babe—beb- bbbl date on the latest on that. but bn— date on the latest on that. but be e ebeb— date on the latest on that. but now in a story that— date on the latest on that. but now in a story that ordinarily, arguably— now in a story that ordinarily, arguably would— now in a story that ordinarily, arguably would have been leading the—be— arguably would have been leading bbe—bb e— arguably would have been leading bbe—bb a shock- arguably would have been leading the _to a shock turni the news agenda to a shock turn of the news agenda to a shock turn on evene— the news agenda to a shock turn on events bne— the news agenda to a shock turn of events this morning, stubborn bnflnben— of events this morning, stubborn inflation-eb— of events this morning, stubborn inflation-at 8.7,- inflation remains at 8.7, eeeenbne— inflation remains at 8.7, according figures inflation remains at 8.7,- according-figures from according to new figures from the according to new figures from be onbee — according to new figures from the office for— according to new figures from the office for national statistics— the office for national statistics .— the office for national statistics . here to run us statistics. here to run us bnnben— statistics. here to run us bnnben b— statistics. here to run us through it halligan statistics. here to run us- through it-halligan with through it is liam halligan with on through it is liam halligan with en bne— through it is liam halligan with en bne money— through it is liam halligan with en bne menev .— through it is liam halligan with on be nenev . — through it is liam halligan with on the money . " on the money. the uk is in crisis on the money. the uk is in bne— on the money. the uk is in crisis. this is— on the money. " 2.” this is ongoing in this crisis. this is ongoing in this morning— crisis. this is ongoing in this nevnbng vnen— crisis. this is ongoing in this morning when the- 2.” this is ongoing in this morning when the office for babeneb— morning when the office for national statistics released the bnee— national statistics released the bebeeb figures— national statistics released the latest figures on _ national statistics released the latest figures on price pressures, there was an mbeben— pressures, there was an inflation shock . let's have inflation shock. let's have a boon— inflation shock. let's have a book eb— inflation shock. let's have a look at those— inflation shock. let's have a look at those numbers . back in look at those numbers. back in ann.— look at those numbers. back in april, inflation— look at those numbers. back in april, inflation was 8.7. that bneee— april, inflation was 8.7. that means prices in— april, inflation was 8.7. that means prices in general were evn— means prices in general were we nbgnen— means prices in general were 8.7% higher than— means prices in general were 8.7% higher than in april 2022. many— 8.7% higher than in april 2022. many economists— 8.7% higher than in april 2022. many economists expected inflation— many economists expected inflation to _ many economists expected inflation to keep coming down, and— inflation to keep coming down, and vet— inflation to keep coming down, and vet b-e— inflation to keep coming down, and yet it's stubbornly remained the and yet it's stubbornly remained bne eeene— and yet it's stubbornly remained bne nev— and yet it's stubbornly remained the same. may 20th, 23 inflation ebu— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation ebb eb— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation ebb ab 8.7.— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation still at 8.7. that— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation still at 8.7. that means britain is still at 8.7. that means britain be nvv— still at 8.7. that means britain

is now an outlier— still at 8.7. that means britain is now an outlier across the vveebenn— is now an outlier across the western world,— is now an outlier across the western world, our inflation is the western world, our inflation is be nbgneeb— western world, our inflation is be nbgneeb bn— western world, our inflation is the highest in the g7 group of advanced— the highest in the g7 group of advanced industrialised countries. _ advanced industrialised countries. there we are 8.7% in may— countries. there we are 8.7% in mev bn— countries. there we are 8.7% in mev in ne— countries. there we are 8.7% in may in the eurozone across the cnenneb— may in the eurozone across the channel there, _ may in the eurozone across the channel there, that 20 nation ennenev bbee— channel there, that 20 nation currency bloc inflation is averaging— currency bloc inflation is averaging just- currency bloc inflation is averaging just 6.1. and in the us averaging just 6.1. and in the us be— averaging just 6.1. and in the us be e. — averaging just 6.1. and in the us it's 4. though— averaging just 6.1. and in the us it's 4. though in the us in benbebben— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and the— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and the eurozone , particular and the eurozone, enenev— particular and the eurozone, energy bneee— particular and the eurozone, energy prices are much cheaper eben— energy prices are much cheaper bnen bnev— energy prices are much cheaper bnen bnev ene— energy prices are much cheaper than they are here— energy prices are much cheaper than they are here in britain. vvneb-e— than they are here in britain. what's causing— than they are here in britain. what's causing this high mbeben— what's causing this high inflation in— what's causing this high inflation in the uk .7 it's partly inflation in the uk.7 it's partly beb— inflation in the uk.7 it's partly bee bnee— inflation in the uk? it's partly food price inflation, as everyone— food price inflation, as everyone knows , who goes to do everyone knows, who goes to do ebebn— everyone knows, who goes to do bneb enebbbng— everyone knows, who goes to do bneb enebbbng bn— everyone knows, who goes to do their shopping in their supermarket, grocery prices are ebu— supermarket, grocery prices are ebbb ebv— supermarket, grocery prices are ebbb ebv nbgn— supermarket, grocery prices are still sky high and— supermarket, grocery prices are still sky high and they're bene— still sky high and they're nebng. bn— still sky high and they're rising. in april 2023, we had bebbe— rising. in april 2023, we had 19.1% inflation— rising. in april 2023, we had 19.1% inflation down again . food 19.1% inflation down again. food bneee— 19.1% inflation down again. food bneee bn— 19.1% inflation down again. food prices in general,— 19.1% inflation down again. food prices in general, 19.1% higher bnen— prices in general, 19.1% higher bnen bne— prices in general, 19.1% higher than the same— prices in general, 19.1% higher than the same month in 2022. and in than the same month in 2022. and bn bev— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation in— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation in food prices came down only— in may, inflation in food prices came down only slightly , 18.3. came down only slightly, 18.3. ebb— came down only slightly, 18.3. sbb ebv— came down only slightly, 18.3. sbb ebv nbgn— came down only slightly, 18.3. still sky high and on top of beb— still sky high and on top of that, there's— still sky high and on top of that, there's a— still sky high and on top of that, there's a technical measure that- that, there's a technical measure that economists look at, bnebbbbng— measure that economists look at, including economists at the bank of bnebenb— including economists at the bank of england, core—

including economists at the bank of england, core inflation. this ebbbe— of england, core inflation. this ebbbe ebb— of england, core inflation. this strips out volatile— of england, core inflation. this strips out volatile items food, energy— strips out volatile items food, enenev .— strips out volatile items food, energy . ebnen— strips out volatile items food, energy , other things that are energy, other things that are bnbeneb— energy, other things that are bnbeneb be— energy, other things that are bnbeneb be try— energy, other things that are imported to try and understand vvbeb-e— imported to try and understand what's happening domestically . what's happening domestically. beee— what's happening domestically. vvnge beeennee— what's happening domestically. wage pressures, supply chain bebng— wage pressures, supply chain issues being experienced by bnben— issues being experienced by british firms— issues being experienced by british firms or— issues being experienced by british firms or underlying bnbeben— british firms or underlying inflation or— british firms or underlying inflation or core inflation. be— inflation or core inflation. b-e neb— inflation or core inflation. b-e neb enbv— inflation or core inflation. it's not only not coming down or ebebne— it's not only not coming down or ebnvbng bne— it's not only not coming down or staying the same,— it's not only not coming down or staying the same, it's actually going— staying the same, it's actually going up— staying the same, it's actually going up eave— staying the same, it's actually going up 6-2% in_ staying the same, it's actually going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in abnb— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in abnb anb— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in abnb anb mbe— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in april. and 7.1% in— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in april. and 7.1% in may. and bneb-e— april. and 7.1% in may. and that's what's— april. and 7.1% in may. and that's what's really worrying the that's what's really worrying bne bank— that's what's really worrying bne benb eb— that's what's really worrying the bank of england as they eenbenbbebe— the bank of england as they contemplate what's going to bebben— contemplate what's going to bebben be— contemplate what's going to happen to interest rates. bnev-ne— happen to interest rates. they're making that crucial beebeben — they're making that crucial beebeben .— they're making that crucial decision . tomorrow, it will be decision. tomorrow, it will be ennebneb eb— decision. tomorrow, it will be announced at noon. we've seen ben— announced at noon. we've seen from zeb— announced at noon. we've seen from zen eb— announced at noon. we've seen from 2017 all the— announced at noon. we've seen from 2017 all the way through to the from 2017 all the way through to be enb— from 2017 all the way through to be enb eb— from 2017 all the way through to the end of 2021. _ from 2017 all the way through to the end of 2021. interest rates bbn— the end of 2021. interest rates were ultra low.— the end of 2021. interest rates were ultra low. lots of households- were ultra low. lots of households locked in five year, bnee— households locked in five year, be veen— households locked in five year, three year, two— households locked in five year, three year, two year mortgage beebe— three year, two year mortgage beebe. bneee— three year, two year mortgage deals. those mortgage deals are bnvbnbbng— deals. those mortgage deals are now unwinding as— deals. those mortgage deals are now unwinding as interest rates neve— now unwinding as interest rates neve neen— now unwinding as interest rates have risen since— now unwinding as interest rates have risen since late 2021. all bne— have risen since late 2021. all bne bev— have risen since late 2021. all be way nb— have risen since late 2021. all be way up be— have risen since late 2021. all the way up to 4.5. _ have risen since late 2021. all the way up to 4.5. well tomorrow we cobb— the way up to 4.5. well tomorrow we eebbb eee— the way up to 4.5. well tomorrow we eebbb e— the way up to 4.5. well tomorrow we could see a rise— the way up to 4.5. well tomorrow we could see a rise to 4.75% by bne— we could see a rise to 4.75% by bne bank— we could see a rise to 4.75% by bne bank on— we could see a rise to 4.75% by the bank of england or indeed a big the bank of england or indeed a be nebv— the bank of england or indeed a

be new neb— the bank of england or indeed a be new nab e— the bank of england or indeed a big hefty half a percentage bebnb— big hefty half a percentage bebnb nee— big hefty half a percentage point rise. all— big hefty half a percentage point rise. all the way up to 5% as point rise. all the way up to 5% be bne— point rise. all the way up to 5% be be benb— point rise. all the way up to 5% as the bank tries— point rise. all the way up to 5% as the bank tries to clamp down on bnbeben— as the bank tries to clamp down on inflation. this— as the bank tries to clamp down on inflation. this of— as the bank tries to clamp down on inflation. this of course, beee— on inflation. this of course, beee neve— on inflation. this of course, does have knock- on inflation. this of course, does have knock on effects for nengegee— does have knock on effects for nengngee ee— does have knock on effects for mortgages as those 5—3 and two veen— mortgages as those 5—3 and two veen beebe— mortgages as those 5—3 and two year deals expire.— mortgages as those 5—3 and two year deals expire. mortgage nbee— year deals expire. mortgage rates are set— year deals expire. mortgage rates are set to _ year deals expire. mortgage rates are set to rise further . rates are set to rise further. bnev-ne— rates are set to rise further. bnev-ne nb— rates are set to rise further. they're up above 6% on average, in they're up above 6% on average, bn b— they're up above 6% on average, in some cases 7 or— they're up above 6% on average, in some cases 7 or 8. but it's ebeb— in some cases 7 or 8. but it's eeeb nee— in some cases 7 or 8. but it's good ben— in some cases 7 or 8. but it's good news for savers. higher bnbeneeb— good news for savers. higher interest rates— good news for savers. higher interest rates mean as long as bne— interest rates mean as long as be banke— interest rates mean as long as the banks and— interest rates mean as long as the banks and building societies do the banks and building societies be beee— the banks and building societies be beee bneee— the banks and building societies do pass, those rate rises on, vee— do pass, those rate rises on, ven vvbb— do pass, those rate rises on, ven vbbb beb— do pass, those rate rises on, ven vbbb eeb e— do pass, those rate rises on, you will get a bit- do pass, those rate rises on, you will get a bit more bang for veen— you will get a bit more bang for veen beeb— you will get a bit more bang for veen bbeb se— you will get a bit more bang for your buck. so there— you will get a bit more bang for your buck. so there we have it . your buck. so there we have it. bnbbebn— your buck. so there we have it. bnbbebn be— your buck. so there we have it. britain is now— your buck. so there we have it. britain is now the— your buck. so there we have it. britain is now the inflation neben— britain is now the inflation neben bn— britain is now the inflation nation in price— britain is now the inflation nation in price pressures are benebebne— nation in price pressures are benebebne enb— nation in price pressures are persisting and this is the story bneb-e— persisting and this is the story we eebne— persisting and this is the story we eebne be— persisting and this is the story that's going to dominate bebbee— that's going to dominate politics all— that's going to dominate politics all the way through to the politics all the way through to be nevb— politics all the way through to the next general— politics all the way through to the next general election. abeebebebv— the next general election. abeebbbebv — the next general election. absolutely the next general election.- absolutely look, liam, thank you very, very much. liam halligan there, our economics and business editor with on the money. and we'll have loads more on figures and on today's inflation figures and what they mean for you. very very shortly. i'm also going to be talking about the fact that this is, of course, potentially another rishi sunak broken promise, going promise, which is why i'm going to the question

to be floating the question about whether it's time about whether or not it's time for ticket of for a dream ticket of boris johnson of the man johnson and of course, the man himself, nigel farage, that will give westminster rmt give the westminster snob rmt a nose, it? and get nose, wouldn't it? and get a load this as well. load of this story as well. christians right here in britain are essentially being bullied over religious views. that over their religious views. that interestingly can't be said for all religions , can it? but right all religions, can it? but right now, we're going to go to your headunes now, we're going to go to your headlines with polly . patrick. headlines with polly. patrick. thank you. the top stories. bebb— thank you. the top stories. vvebb bne— thank you. the top stories. well, the breaking news in this beeb— well, the breaking news in this beeb neb— well, the breaking news in this last half hour— well, the breaking news in this last half hour is— well, the breaking news in this last half hour is that a man has been— last half hour is that a man has now been arrested— last half hour is that a man has now been arrested following a ebebbbne— now been arrested following a ebebbbne eb— now been arrested following a stabbing at central middlesex beebbbeb— stabbing at central middlesex beebbbeb bn— stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west— stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west london. two beebbe— hospital in west london. two people sustained— hospital in west london. two people sustained injuries with vbebn— people sustained injuries with one victim being— people sustained injuries with one victim being treated with life threatening— one victim being treated with life threatening injuries. the ebebeeb— life threatening injuries. the enebeeb nee— life threatening injuries. the suspect has been admitted to neebbbeb— suspect has been admitted to hospital having— suspect has been admitted to hospital having received bnbbnbee— hospital having received injuries that— hospital having received injuries that are believed to be self—inflicted— injuries that are believed to be self—inflicted .— injuries that are believed to be self—inflicted . his condition is self—inflicted. his condition is bebne— self—inflicted. his condition is bebne beebeb— self—inflicted. his condition is being treated as— self—inflicted. his condition is being treated as life threatening. a spokesperson for the threatening. a spokesperson for be beebbbeb— threatening. a spokesperson for the hospital trust— threatening. a spokesperson for the hospital trust said the neebbbeb— the hospital trust said the hospital was— the hospital trust said the hospital was temporarily locked been.— hospital was temporarily locked bevn. beebbe— hospital was temporarily locked down. people had— hospital was temporarily locked down. people had been evacuated, but down. people had been evacuated, bub bb— down. people had been evacuated, bub bb neb— down. people had been evacuated, bub bb neb ne—

down. people had been evacuated, but it had now reopened. we unbenebenb— but it had now reopened. we understand armed police are on the understand armed police are on be eeene— understand armed police are on be bub— understand armed police are on the scene, but this— understand armed police are on the scene, but this is not being bneebeb— the scene, but this is not being bneebeb ne— the scene, but this is not being treated now as— the scene, but this is not being treated now as terror related . treated now as terror related. in treated now as terror related. bn ebnen— treated now as terror related. in other news— treated now as terror related. in other news today, gb news unbenebenbe— in other news today, gb news understands the— in other news today, gb news understands the tapping that has been— understands the tapping that has been detected— understands the tapping that has been detected in— understands the tapping that has been detected in the search for the submersible _ been detected in the search for the submersible tourist vessel bneb— the submersible tourist vessel bneb venb— the submersible tourist vessel that went missing en route to bne— that went missing en route to be bbbenbe— that went missing en route to the titanic shipwreck. in the ebenbe— the titanic shipwreck. in the abenbbe be— the titanic shipwreck. in the atlantic is morse code for sos seve— atlantic is morse code for sos beve eun— atlantic is morse code for sos save our souls— atlantic is morse code for sos save our souls sources close to bne— save our souls sources close to be — save our souls sources close to the rescue tell— save our souls sources close to the rescue tell gb— save our souls sources close to the rescue tell gb news the us ceeebeuenb— the rescue tell gb news the us coastguard decided not to fund two coastguard decided not to fund bve beeb— coastguard decided not to fund two deep water— coastguard decided not to fund two deep water salvage companies who two deep water salvage companies nbe eeubb— two deep water salvage companies nbe eeubb neve— two deep water salvage companies who could have flown equipment en us— who could have flown equipment over on us military— who could have flown equipment over on us military transport. bnev-ne— over on us military transport. they're understood to be 3 to 4 beve— they're understood to be 3 to 4 beve unev— they're understood to be 3 to 4 beve evev. bne— they're understood to be 3 to 4 days away. the vessel's 3800m bebev— days away. the vessel's 3800m bebev bne— days away. the vessel's 3800m below the sea— days away. the vessel's 3800m below the sea level and gb news unbenebenbe— below the sea level and gb news understands that— below the sea level and gb news understands that last night two venbebee— understands that last night two vehicles were— understands that last night two vehicles were sent down, but bebb— vehicles were sent down, but both imploded— vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at 3000m. five beebbe— both imploded at 3000m. five beebbe bn— both imploded at 3000m. five beebbe bn bebb— both imploded at 3000m. five people in total are still nbeebne— people in total are still nbeebne .— people in total are still missing . they may have as little missing. they may have as little as missing. they may have as little ee zu— missing. they may have as little ee 24 neune— missing. they may have as little as 24 hours oxygen— missing. they may have as little as 24 hours oxygen left . british as 24 hours oxygen left. british bebbebenb — as 24 hours oxygen left. british pakistani businessman shahzada beveeb— pakistani businessman shahzada beveeb enb— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman are on

dawood and his son sulaiman are en beebe— dawood and his son sulaiman are en beenb ebenb— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board along with— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board along with british billionaire— on board along with british billionaire explorer hamish benbbne— billionaire explorer hamish harding. we'll— billionaire explorer hamish harding. we'll keep up to date vvbbn— harding. we'll keep up to date vvbbn bneb— harding. we'll keep up to date with that story— harding. we'll keep up to date with that story throughout the beeb— with that story throughout the beeb eb— with that story throughout the beeb eb bne — with that story throughout the rest of the day— with that story throughout the rest of the day . _ with that story throughout the rest of the day . 2; 322 2 rest of the day. he's banging sounds are being heard every 30 minutes. now. that is a very clear strategy by we would hope, the occupants of that vessel to think right. we signal every 30 minutes, there's a little burst of activity because sound and is probably the one way you can locate this submersible down there finding the vessel is just there finding the vessel is just the start because then you've got to get it up the opportunity to extract the five people from the vessel and get them into another vessel down there is nil . that's not going to happen. so you've got to get the vessel to the surface somehow. and that's a new challenge . news on a whole new challenge. news on the and the a whole new challenge. news on the-and the uk's- the economy and the uk's bnbebben— the economy and the uk's inflation rate— the economy and the uk's inflation rate stayed same inflation rate stayed the same beebbbe— inflation rate stayed the same despite expectations there may be e— despite expectations there may be e beb— despite expectations there may be e bub. bne— despite expectations there may be a fall. the office for bebbeneb— be a fall. the office for national statistics released its beunee— national statistics released its figures showing— national statistics released its figures showing it stayed up at 8.7%— figures showing it stayed up at 8.7% unbbb— figures showing it stayed up at 8.7% unbbb bev— figures showing it stayed up at 8.7% until may. that's the same nebe— 8.7% until may. that's the same nebe ee—

8.7% until may. that's the same nebe ee bebb— 8.7% until may. that's the same rate as april, and— 8.7% until may. that's the same rate as april, and that comes as the rate as april, and that comes as be ub— rate as april, and that comes as be ub neb— rate as april, and that comes as the uk net debt— rate as april, and that comes as the uk net debt reached £2.6 bnbbben— the uk net debt reached £2.6 bnbbben eb— the uk net debt reached £2.6 trillion at the— the uk net debt reached £2.6 trillion at the end of may. meanwhile— trillion at the end of may. meanwhile the— trillion at the end of may. meanwhile the average uk house bnee— meanwhile the average uk house price increased— meanwhile the average uk house price increased by— meanwhile the average uk house price increased by 3.5% in the 12 price increased by 3.5% in the b nenbne— price increased by 3.5% in the b nenbne be— price increased by 3.5% in the 12 months to april. more on all bneee— 12 months to april. more on all those stories.— 12 months to april. more on all those stories. gb— 12 months to april. more on all those stories. gb news .com . those stories. gb news .com. bbneeb— those stories. gb news .com. direct bullion— those stories. gb news .com. direct bullion sponsors the bbnenee— direct bullion sponsors the finance report— direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for bebb— finance report on gb news for eebb enb— finance report on gb news for gold and silver— finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. beb-e— gold and silver investment. beb-e babe— gold and silver investment. beb-e bebe e— gold and silver investment. let's take a closer look at bneee— let's take a closer look at those numbers— let's take a closer look at those numbers for you today. the beunb— those numbers for you today. the beunb buvbne— those numbers for you today. the pound buying you— those numbers for you today. the pound buying you $1.2714 and l beeb.— pound buying you $1.2714 and l beeb. bne— pound buying you $1.2714 and - ,1.1635. the price- pound buying you $1.2714 and ,1.1635. the price of gold. - ,1.1635. the price of gold. beme-eo— . ,1.1635. the price of gold. bebbbeo en— - ,1.1635. the price of gold. £1,514.80 an ounce. _ . ,1.1635. the price of gold. £1,514.80 an ounce. the- ,1.1635. the price of gold. £1,514.80 an ounce. the ftse 100 is £1,514.80 an ounce. the ftse 100 be eb— £1,514.80 an ounce. the ftse 100 be eb 75.9— £1,514.80 an ounce. the ftse 100 is at 7549 points.— £1,514.80 an ounce. the ftse 100 is at 7549 points. direct bubben— is at 7549 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance ebenb— bullion sponsors the finance nebenb en— bullion sponsors the finance eeen en eb— bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and sbbven— report on gb news for gold and silver investment— report on gb news for gold and silver investment malcolm enbneben—

silver investment malcolm enbneben .— silver investment malcolm grimston . loads of news about grimston. loads of news about bebev— grimston. loads of news about bebev bneb— grimston. loads of news about today that major— grimston. loads of news about today that major incident at bneb— today that major incident at that hospital— today that major incident at that hospital in— today that major incident at that hospital in in middlesex vvbb— that hospital in in middlesex vbbb bnbne— that hospital in in middlesex vbbb bnne veu— that hospital in in middlesex will bring you the latest on bneb. — will bring you the latest on bneb. be— will bring you the latest on bneb. be b— will bring you the latest on that. e 2. ”2; will bring you the latest on that. e 2. 2 that. as it currently stands, two people stabbed, two injured, one in a life threatening condition. also, of course, the latest from that titanic submersible as well as sos signals are believed to have been detected. but let's get more on today's inflation figures, high inflation figures, because high inflation is having an impact on businesses, on people right across the country. you've heard businesses, on people right acrvthe the country. you've heard businesses, on people right acrvthe statsbuntry. you've heard businesses, on people right acrvthe stats from. you've heard businesses, on people right acrvthe stats from liam.ie heard businesses, on people right acrvthe stats from liam. they're all the stats from liam. they're you've that info. you've heard all of that info. but what i wanted to do was to get about with jack get out and about with jack carson, west midlands carson, our west midlands reporter us reporter who joins us from a factory in sutton coldfield to actually find out what things are like at the coal face jack . are like at the coal face jack. well, patrick, the main thing bneb— well, patrick, the main thing be b-ve— well, patrick, the main thing that i've found— well, patrick, the main thing that i've found today is buebneee— that i've found today is business is— that i've found today is business is concerned. small nebbun— business is concerned. small medium enterprise businesses are eeneenneb . bne— medium enterprise businesses are concerned . the industrial estate concerned. the industrial estate uneve— concerned. the industrial estate vvnene bnbe— concerned. the industrial estate where this factory— concerned. the industrial estate where this factory is on is an evenbbe— where this factory is on is an evenbbe eb— where this factory is on is an example of those— where this factory is on is an example of those small , where this factory is on is an example of those small, medium enbenbnbee— example of those small, medium enterprise businesses that

enbbev— enterprise businesses that employ millions of people across the employ millions of people across bne eeunbnv. — employ millions of people across the country. and— employ millions of people across the country. and they're eunenbbv— the country. and they're currently finding this high rate currently finding this hiin rate of currently finding this high rate eb bnbebben— currently finding this high rate of inflation. the— currently finding this high rate of inflation. the fact that it's neb— of inflation. the fact that it's neb eeene— of inflation. the fact that it's not come down— of inflation. the fact that it's not come down today, the beeebbbbbv— not come down today, the possibility that - not come down today, the possibility that interest rates eeubb— possibility that interest rates eeubb web— possibility that interest rates could well go— possibility that interest rates could well go up base rate could well go up the base rate eeubb— could well go up the base rate eeubb-ub— could well go up the base rate could up tomorrow as could well go up tomorrow as bubeeb— could well go up tomorrow as bubeeblbne— could well go up tomorrow as judged-the bank- could well go up tomorrow as judged the bank of england . judged by the bank of england. they— judged by the bank of england. bnev-bnbbne— judged by the bank of england. they-finding that- judged by the bank of england. they finding that concerning they are finding that concerning and they are finding that concerning enb—be— and particularly be unsustainable. jeremy hunt, unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, on unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, en bne— unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, en bne beeb— unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, en bne beeb eb— unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, on the back of that— unsustainable. now, jeremy hunt, on the back of that figure this nennbne— on the back of that figure this nennbne eebb— on the back of that figure this morning said that this strengthens- morning said that this strengthens for case the strengthens the for case the eevennnenb— strengthens the for case the government to _ strengthens the for case the government to stick to his guns. but there is a worry from buebneee— but there is a worry from business -the. business here that the government- business here that the- government-listening government aren't listening to bnebn—b- government aren't listening toi bnebn—b ebebe their specific concerns. i spoke to their specific concerns. i spoke be sbeve— their specific concerns. i spoke to steve hardiman, the to steve hardiman, who's the neneebne— to steve hardiman, who's the managing director of clevedon beebenene— managing director of clevedon fasteners here.— managing director of clevedon fasteners here. they make beebenene— fasteners here. they make fasteners, rivets- fasteners here. they make fasteners, rivets that go all bne— fasteners, rivets that go all across the country. i spoke to nbn— across the country. i spoke to nbn ebeub— across the country. i spoke to him about the— across the country. i spoke to him about the reality of running his him about the reality of running nbe buebneee— him about the reality of running his business in— him about the reality of running his business in the— him about the reality of running his business in the current economic climate . economic climate. people seem to forget coming off the back forget we're coming off the back of the covid crash . ipsis lots of the covid crash. ipsis lots of the covid crash. ipsis lots of have got balance of people have got balance sheets that are bombed out with covid loans various other covid loans and various other things . as the covid loans were things. as the covid loans were taken out at 0.1, the chances are tomorrow we might get . to 5. are tomorrow we might get. to 5. and that means that when you when you've got a loan that

might be up to 6.5% and that's going to hurt a lot of businesses. the energy is a nightmare because when we took out our energy bill, sorry, when we took out our energy contract , basically we were paying about £5,000 a month on energy. we're now paying £16,000 a month. it's just more and more taxes on on businesses. you know, it's a very, very poor environment at the moment for businesses. and that's that's the thing that concerns me the most . well, as concerns me the most. well, as you heard there— concerns me the most. well, as you heard there ,— concerns me the most. well, as you heard there , just- 22 well, as you heard there , just how stark you heard there, just how stark the you heard there, just how stark bne eenbneeb— you heard there, just how stark the contrast is— you heard there, just how stark the contrast is .— you heard there, just how stark the contrast is . £5,000, they the contrast is. £5,000, they bevbne— the contrast is. £5,000, they bevbne e— the contrast is. £5,000, they are paying a month for energy bb-e— are paying a month for energy bb-e ub— are paying a month for energy be up be— are paying a month for energy now. it's up to £60,000 a month. bne— now. it's up to £60,000 a month. bne bnbeeb— now. it's up to £60,000 a month. bne bnbeeb en— now. it's up to £60,000 a month. the impact on this— now. it's up to £60,000 a month. the impact on this business is bneb— the impact on this business is be vnen— the impact on this business is that when they— the impact on this business is that when they were used to be eben— that when they were used to be even bve — that when they were used to be eben bve beve— that when they were used to be open five days a— that when they were used to be open five days a week, they've neb — open five days a week, they've neb be — open five days a week, they've now had to cut— open five days a week, they've now had to cut that down to four enb— now had to cut that down to four nneb-enn— now had to cut that down to four and-cram cram as- now had to cut that down to four and cram cram as much and try and cram cram as much bnebuebbvbbv— and try and cram cram as much productivity-they— and try and cram cram as much productivity they can within productivity as they can within bneee— productivity as they can within bneee feu— productivity as they can within those four days— productivity as they can within those four days because they bueb— those four days because they bueb een-b— those four days because they just don't know— those four days because they just don't know whether it's sustainable— just don't know whether it's- sustainable—afford sustainable and they can afford bneb— sustainable and they can afford bneb enbe— sustainable and they can afford that extra-energy- sustainable and they can afford that extra-energy ,- sustainable and they can afford that extra energy , extra that extra day of energy, extra energy— that extra day of energy, extra enenev e— that extra day of energy, extra energy e veeb— that extra day of energy, extra energy e vveeb .— that extra day of energy, extra energy a week . now, the british energy a week. now, the british cnenben— energy a week. now, the british cnenben eb— energy a week. now, the british chamber of commerce , their their

chamber of commerce, their their beeb— chamber of commerce, their their beeb eb— chamber of commerce, their their head of research,— chamber of commerce, their their head of research, david barry , head of research, david barry, nee— head of research, david barry, nee eebb— head of research, david barry, has said that— head of research, david barry, has said that this— head of research, david barry, has said that this that these beunee— has said that this that these beunee bebev— has said that this that these figures today show that action is figures today show that action be neebeb— figures today show that action be neebeb bv— figures today show that action is needed by the— figures today show that action is needed by the government not enbv— is needed by the government not only-supply— is needed by the government not only-supply ,- is needed by the government not only-supply , but- is needed by the government not only supply , but also only on labour supply, but also beeebbbv— only on labour supply, but also possiblylreform _ only on labour supply, but also possiblylreform of- only on labour supply, but also possibly reform of business possibly a reform of business be — possibly a reform of business be ane— possibly a reform of business be anb be— possibly a reform of business rates. and is the— possibly a reform of business rates. and is the feeling here bneb— rates. and is the feeling here be bne— rates. and is the feeling here that the small— rates. and is the feeling here that the small and medium enbenbnbee— that the small and medium enbenbnbee .— that the small and medium enterprise , his— that the small and medium enterprise , his business on this enterprise, his business on this bnbuebnbeb— enterprise, his business on this industrial-feel- enterprise, his business on this industrial feel like industrial estate feel like the eevennnenb— government isn't necessarily bbebenbne— government isn't necessarily bbebenbne be— government isn't necessarily listening to their concerns? beeb— listening to their concerns? beeb bnenb— listening to their concerns? jack, thank-very- listening to their concerns? jack, thank very much. 2 jack, thank you very much. jack been— jack, thank you very much. jack beveen-beb— jack, thank you very much. jack carson,-for us— jack, thank you very much. jack carson,-for us out- jack, thank you very much. jack carson,-for us out and- carson, there for us out and about just getting that reaction really from the people who this properly affects. liam is still with me in the studio right now. liam halligan, our economics and business no matter business editor. liam no matter which you dress up, it which way you dress this up, it is hurtling another is hurtling towards another broken by rishi sunak. it broken pledge by rishi sunak. it certainly is rishi sunak rather rashly promised to bring down inflation by half when it was 10% injanuary. he inflation by half when it was 10% in january. he said that so bneb— 10% in january. he said that so be nneene— 10% in january. he said that so that means 5%_ �*o�*if'v�*év 2 he said that so that means 5% inflation really is that means 5% inflation really be bne— that means 5% inflation really be be benb— that means 5% inflation really is the bank of— that means 5% inflation really is the bank of england's job nebnen— is the bank of england's job nebnen bnen— is the bank of england's job rather than his— is the bank of england's job rather than his .— is the bank of england's job rather than his . but look, these rather than his. but look, these are serious times. _ rather than his. but look, these are serious times. i do think a lot are serious times. i do think a beb eb— are serious times. i do think a lot of families— are serious times. i do think a lot of families are— are serious times. i do think a lot of families are going to ebnueebe— lot of families are going to ebnueebe vbbn— lot of families are going to struggle with their mortgages, the struggle with their mortgages, be be— struggle with their mortgages, the ifs institute _ struggle with their mortgages, the ifs institute for fiscal ebubbee— the ifs institute for fiscal studies have— the ifs institute for fiscal studies have tried to put some numbe— studies have tried to put some numbers on it.— studies have tried to put some numbers on it. they think the

age— numbers on it. they think the eee eneub— numbers on it. they think the eee eneub bneb-e— numbers on it. they think the age group that's going to suffer the age group that's going to suffer bne-be— age group that's going to suffer bne-be bne— age group that's going to suffer the-is the-group- age group that's going to suffer the is the group that the most is the age group that benbe—ee- the most is the age group that benbe—ee bne- the most is the age group thati tends—as the share tends to pay most as the share of tends to pay most as the share eb bnebn— tends to pay most as the share of their income— tends to pay most as the share of their income on— tends to pay most as the share of their income on their nenbeeeee— of their income on their mortgages, are those mortgages, which are those in bnebn— mortgages, which are those in bnebn-bnev-ne— mortgages, which are those in their they're lucky their 30s, if they're lucky eneuen — their 30s, if they're lucky eneuen be — their 30s, if they're lucky enough to buy- their 30s, if they're lucky enough to buy a home. now, they may— enough to buy a home. now, they nay-beeb— enough to buy a home. now, they nev-beeblbuebv— enough to buy a home. now, they may-feelilucky in- enough to buy a home. now, they may feel lucky in the may not feel so lucky in the nenbne— may not feel so lucky in the months-come— may not feel so lucky in the months come because ifs, months to come because the ifs, enve— months to come because the ifs, eeve bne— months to come because the ifs, eeve bne eveeee— months to come because the ifs, says the average monthly nenbeeee— says the average monthly- neneeee—bneee says the average monthly- mortgage _those in mortgage payments for those in bnebn— mortgage payments for those in bnebn eee— mortgage payments for those in bnebn eee ee— mortgage payments for those in their 30s are going to increase , their 30s are going to increase . eve-be— their 30s are going to increase , are-to increase- their 30s are going to increase , are-to increase .- their 30s are going to increase , are to increase . by £360 , are going to increase. by £360 a , are going to increase. by £360 e nenbb— , are going to increase. by £360 e nenbn. veen.— , are going to increase. by £360 a month. yeah, so— , are going to increase. by £360 a month. yeah, so that's that's bun— a month. yeah, so that's that's beun ebenb— a month. yeah, so that's that's beun evene e— a month. yeah, so that's that's four grand a year,— a month. yeah, so that's that's four grand a year, which is a big— four grand a year, which is a big enunb— four grand a year, which is a big enunb eb— four grand a year, which is a big chunk of your income for nvene— big chunk of your income for enenev bub— big chunk of your income for anyone, but particularly if ve-nue— anyone, but particularly if ve-nue bn— anyone, but particularly if veue bn veun— anyone, but particularly if you're in your 30s, it's also venbn— you're in your 30s, it's also been eevbne— you're in your 30s, it's also worth saying, patrick, that i ben-b— worth saying, patrick, that i ben-b venb— worth saying, patrick, that i don't want this— worth saying, patrick, that i don't want this to be completely ebennbeb. — don't want this to be completely ebennbeb. b— don't want this to be completely ebennbeb. b be— don't want this to be completely alarmist. i do think a lot of bne— alarmist. i do think a lot of bee benbe— alarmist. i do think a lot of the banks and— alarmist. i do think a lot of the banks and building societies .vvnen— the banks and building societies .vvnen bueb— the banks and building societies , when push comes to shove, bnev-ne— , when push comes to shove, bnev-ne neb— , when push comes to shove, they're not going— , when push comes to shove, they're not going to move to try enb— they're not going to move to try enb ebeeeeee— they're not going to move to try and repossess houses, at least neb— and repossess houses, at least neb eubebbv— and repossess houses, at least neb eubebbv. b— and repossess houses, at least not quickly. i do— and repossess houses, at least not quickly. i do think they vbb— not quickly. i do think they vbblenb— not quickly. i do think they will and extend loans. so if will try and extend loans. so if vuev— will try and extend loans. so if veuve beb— will try and extend loans. so if veuve eeb en— will try and extend loans. so if you've got an increase in your neneeee— you've got an increase in your mortgage payment, but you extend the mortgage payment, but you extend bne been— mortgage payment, but you extend bne been-veene— mortgage payment, but you extend the loan -years to- mortgage payment, but you extend the loan years to say, the loan from 25 years to say, 35 the loan from 25 years to say, bb veee— the loan from 25 years to say, be veee bneb— the loan from 25 years to say, 35 years, that monthly payment may— 35 years, that monthly payment may eebuebv— 35 years, that monthly payment may actually not— 35 years, that monthly payment may actually not go up by so nuen— may actually not go up by so nuen .— may actually not go up by so nuen . b— may actually not go up by so nuen . b veu— may actually not go up by so much . if you-for- may actually not go up by so much . if you for a while much. if you switch for a while ben— much. if you switch for a while ben e— much. if you switch for a while

from a repayment— much. if you switch for a while from a repayment mortgage to an bnbeneeb— from a repayment mortgage to an bnbeneeb enbv— from a repayment mortgage to an interest only mortgage where veube— interest only mortgage where you're-paving- interest only mortgage where you're paying interest on you're only paying interest on not you're only paying interest on neb en— you're only paying interest on neb en bne— you're only paying interest on not on the principal of the been— not on the principal of the bean bub— not on the principal of the loan, but on— not on the principal of the loan, but on the interest enenee. — loan, but on the interest charge. again,- loan, but on the interest charge. again, that can keep veun— charge. again, that can keep veun nenbnbv— charge. again, that can keep your monthly mortgage payment high- — your monthly mortgage payment high- bneee— your monthly mortgage payment high- bneee ee— your monthly mortgage payment high. these are difficult times enb— high. these are difficult times enb bneee— high. these are difficult times and there are— high. these are difficult times and there are going to be a lot of and there are going to be a lot eb beebbe— and there are going to be a lot of people .there_ and there are going to be a lot of people there are of people out there who are vvenbeb. — of people out there who are worried. _think. of people out there who are. worried. _think this worried. but i don't think this is worried. but i don't think this be-bbe— worried. but i don't think this be-bbe e— worried. but i don't think this is-like a kind- worried. but i don't think this is-like a kind of- worried. but i don't think this is like a kind of two is anything like a kind of two bneueenb— is anything like a kind of two thousand-seven,- is anything like a kind of two thousand seven, 2008 thousand and seven, 2008 bnenebeb— thousand and seven, 2008 financial-in- thousand and seven, 2008 financial-in the- thousand and seven, 2008 financial in the making. financial crisis in the making. ben— financial crisis in the making. bben-veu— financial crisis in the making. bben-veu-venv- financial crisis in the making. . liam _you -very much. financial crisis in the making. - liam _you -very much. liam thank you very, very much. ben— liam thank you very, very much. liam—economics- liam thank you very, very much. i liam _economics and liam halligan, our economics and business . but now we've business editor. but now we've got a lot to cram in because we've so much breaking we've had so much breaking news. but wanted to bring this to but i wanted to bring this to you, rishi heading for you, rishi sunak is heading for a massive cabinet apparently a massive cabinet row apparently over deal over a new border deal that would see us go giving the eu money. sunak sunak and suella braverman are said to want to push through a deal with the eu. that would mean that they would work with frontex, which is the european border and coastguard agency . but european border and coastguard agency. but some ministers have pointed that the would pointed out that the deal would cost us lot of money and cost us a lot of money and they said wouldn't much to stop said it wouldn't do much to stop the crisis. i mean, the small boats crisis. i mean, good given the good grief, we've given the french about million and we french about £500 million and we have coming over in have more people coming over in the couple days.

the last couple of days. and we've months previous. we've had for months previous. i'm kevin saunders we've had for months previous. i'who's kevin saunders we've had for months previous. i'who's chiefin saunders , who's a former chief immigration officer at uk border force. thank you very force. kevin, thank you very much. on earth are paying much. why on earth are we paying foreign people already foreign people who've already been in foreign people been letting in foreign people across channel actually across the channel to actually patrol borders ? yeah, it's patrol our borders? yeah, it's an old one. this one i've seen the headlines . an old one. this one i've seen the headlines. i an old one. this one i've seen the headlines . i haven't seen the headlines. i haven't seen much of the meat of the story . much of the meat of the story. i we've never been part of bnenbex— i we've never been part of bnenbev even— i we've never been part of frontex even before brexit hit, we were not part— frontex even before brexit hit, we were not part of frontex . �*vvbz; we were not part of frontex. we beb— we were not part of frontex. we beb e— we were not part of frontex. we had a relationship— we were not part of frontex. we had a relationship with frontex , but it was only it wasn't full membership or anything like that. and we have actually bebbeveb— that. and we have actually deployed cutters- and we have actually deployed cutters to the mediterranean to help help them out mediterranean to help help them eub beuee— mediterranean to help help them out because really— mediterranean to help help them out because really the mediterranean is the front line. if mediterranean is the front line. bb ve— mediterranean is the front line. b we ben— mediterranean is the front line. b we eben— mediterranean is the front line. if we can stop the— mediterranean is the front line. if we can stop the migrants getting into europe, we should be able to see the numbers reduced. attempting to get to the uk. but i don't actually

know what the prime minister and the home secretary are hoping to get out of this deal. well, i'm not sure what— get out of this deal. well, i'm not sure what they're- 22. 2 well, i'm not sure what they're playing at ebbnen— not sure what they're playing at ebbnen. be— not sure what they're playing at ebbnen. be be— not sure what they're playing at either, to be honest with you, bevbn— either, to be honest with you, kevin, because _ either, to be honest with you, kevin, because the answer ebbeene— kevin, because the answer appears-staring- kevin, because the answer appears staring us right appears to be staring us right in appears to be staring us right bn—enbbevl appears to be staring us right. bn—enbbev in the face. if you employ more neenbe— in the face. if you employ more beebbe—ebbee- in the face. if you employ more people—office to. people in the home office to web— people in the home office to work—then- people in the home office to work _then we work on processing, then we can ebenb— work on processing, then we can ebeen—eubeben - work on processing, then we can ebeen—eubeben b- work on processing, then we can clea decide quicker. if work on processing, then we can clea decide to quicker. if work on processing, then we can clea decide to ignoreicker. if work on processing, then we can clea decide to ignore the 2. if work on processing, then we can clea decide to ignore the echr, you decide to ignore the echr, bnen— you decide to ignore the echr,. bnen—bebeneb then you can get people deported to then you can get people deported be-bbe— then you can get people deported to-like rwanda- then you can get people deported to-like rwanda or- to countries like rwanda or bnbeeb— to countries like rwanda or indeed _they'vel to countries like rwanda or- indeed _they've come indeed just where they've come ben — indeed just where they've come benlbnb— indeed just where they've come benlbnb-ee— indeed just where they've come fromiand-as-if- indeed just where they've come from iand - as- if you i from. and also as well, if you eebuebv— from. and also as well, if you eebuebv-bbb— from. and also as well, if you actually-bit of-for| actually get a bit of bang for veun— actually get a bit of bang for veun bueb— actually get a bit of bang for your buck-french. actually get a bit of bang for your buck french or or your buck from the french or or enbbev— your buck from the french or or enbbev nee— your buck from the french or or employ more people to patrol the bnenneb— employ more people to patrol the bnenneb enb— employ more people to patrol the channel and instil— employ more people to patrol the channel and instil a policy of bunnbne— channel and instil a policy of bunnbne bne— channel and instil a policy of turning the boats back then that vveubb— turning the boats back then that veubb eebve— turning the boats back then that would solve the— turning the boats back then that would solve the issue. instead, eebbbne— would solve the issue. instead, we're getting out— would solve the issue. instead, we're getting out of this we're getting out all of this eeunbvv-e— we're getting out all of this country's cash— we're getting out all of this country's cash and pouring country's cash and we're pouring it country's cash and we're pouring bb bnbe— country's cash and we're pouring bb bnbe eevbun— country's cash and we're pouring it into asylum seeker hotels. vvebe— it into asylum seeker hotels. were—be- we're pouring it over to the beeben— we're pouring it over to the border there, _ we're pouring it over to the border there, to— we're pouring it over to the border there, to the french, and nen-gene— border there, to the french, and nen-eebnelebve- border there, to the french, and now-goinglgive it- border there, to the french, and now going give it to now we're going to give it to bnenbee— now we're going to give it to frontex, - living - now we're going to give it to frontex,-living it- now we're going to give it to frontex, living it large frontex, who are living it large now:— frontex, who are living it large neb-beb.— frontex, who are living it large neb-beb. on.- frontex, who are living it large now, that, oh, because of now, saying that, oh, because of ebenb— now, saying that, oh, because of beeb—neve- now, saying that, oh, because of brexit,_have to l brexit, you're going to have to eeene—eb- brexit, you're going to have to eeene—eb i brexit, you're going to have toi eeene—eb vvnv come crawling back to us. why ben-b—be- come crawling back to us. whyj don't—is within don't we just do what is within our don't we just do what is within euv-ube— don't we just do what is within euv-vie — don't we just do what is within euv-vie webb- don't we just do what is within our-we well, the. our control? we well, the business about brexit just isn't true because we were never part of frontex. we only had , you

of frontex. we only had, you know , a working relationship know, a working relationship with them. so we were never part of frontex . so that's that's one of frontex. so that's that's one that we can kick into touch straight away. but what we're doing, i don't know. i don't know what frontex are going to be doing for us because you're quite right, the channel for us is, is the immediate danger and we have to stop the boats coming , coming across its interesting to note , patrick, just want to to note, patrick, just want to say it's interesting to note that the numbers last week, which were horrible , there were which were horrible, there were actually less boats, more people , which goes to show that that it's bigger boats that are being used and so there has been some success in stop the sale of the smaller boats . there's been some smaller boats. there's been some success in stopping— smaller boats. there's been some success in stopping the— there's been some success in stopping the sale of the success in stopping the sale of bee eneben— success in stopping the sale of the smaller boats. _ success in stopping the sale of the smaller boats. but for the ebeebube— the smaller boats. but for the absolute life— the smaller boats. but for the absolute life of— the smaller boats. but for the absolute life of me, kevin will be— absolute life of me, kevin will never be able— absolute life of me, kevin will never be able to— absolute life of me, kevin will never be able to understand why on never be able to understand why en-bub—

never be able to understand why en-bub mbenb- never be able to understand why on-full might of- never be able to understand why on full might of the on earth the full might of the enbe— on earth the full might of the entire european— on earth the full might of the entire european union and bnbbebn-e— entire european union and britain's secret— entire european union and britain's secret services remain unebbe— britain's secret services remain unebbe be— britain's secret services remain unebbe be ebeb— britain's secret services remain unable to stop the— unable to stop the transportation of boats and ben— transportation of boats and their engines. _ transportation of boats and their engines. primary only bnneuen— their engines. primary only through turkey— their engines. primary only through turkey and into the bunebeen— through turkey and into the european union. if you are beebbne— european union. if you are beebbne eb— european union. if you are beebbne eb e— european union. if you are looking at a lorry load full of beebe— looking at a lorry load full of beebe bneb— looking at a lorry load full of boats that could— looking at a lorry load full of boats that could be used across the boats that could be used across bne bnenneb— boats that could be used across the channel, why— boats that could be used across the channel, why on earth are we ebevbne— the channel, why on earth are we ebevbne-be— the channel, why on earth are we ebevbne-be eeb— the channel, why on earth are we allowing to get straight allowing them to get straight bnneuen— allowing them to get straight bnneuenlb— allowing them to get straight through i they're only through? i mean, they're only going— through? i mean, they're only eebne—bnevel through? i mean, they're only. eebne—bneve anb going one way, aren't they? and bnevbe— going one way, aren't they? and bnevbe eebne— going one way, aren't they? and bnevbe eebne bne— going one way, aren't they? and they're going the way of the nunen— they're going the way of thei human—kevin, they're going the way of thei humaiyou_kevin, they're going the way of the humaiyou much. kevin, they're going the way of the humaiyou much. kevin , thank you very much. kevin seunbene— thank you very much. kevini saunders—chief saunders there, former chief bnnbenebben— saunders there, former chief- immigration—border immigration officer at uk border bene— immigration officer at uk border beebe—en- force. i'm going to make an eebv— force. i'm going to make an eebv-en- force. i'm going to make an early-on this. - early prediction on this. bnenbex— early prediction on this. frontex—bl early prediction on this.- frontex_a load of frontex giving the eu a load of nenev— frontex giving the eu a load of. nenev—ebee-b money story. okay we're going to enb— money story. okay we're going to ene—e— money story. okay we're going to ene—e beeb- money story. okay we're going to ene—e beeb eb- end up giving them a load of nenev— end up giving them a load of nenev-eebne- money and we're going to be eebeb— money and we're going to be asked—resources. asked to use our resources to bub— asked to use our resources to bub-beebe— asked to use our resources to put-boatslplaces- asked to use our resources to put boats places like the put our boats in places like the mediterranean— put our boats in places like the mediterranean to— put our boats in places like the mediterranean to try to stop the nbenenb— mediterranean to try to stop the nbenenb-eb— mediterranean to try to stop the migrant-at source.- mediterranean to try to stop the migrant at source. now migrant route at source. now bneb— migrant route at source. now beb-eb— migrant route at source. now bneb-eb-enbl migrant route at source. now- that-all-and good. that would all be well and good. but that would all be well and good. bub—bne— that would all be well and good. but—the money?- that would all be well and good. but the money? we're but what about the money? we're ebeebv— but what about the money? we're ebeebv giving— but what about the money? we're ebeebv ebvbne be— but what about the money? we're already giving to the french? vie-ve— we've just seen there that bnbebben — inflation is remaining at that eb— inflation is remaining at that beb-en— inflation is remaining at that 8.7.-an absolute- inflation is remaining at that 8.7. an absolute shocker , 8.7. it's an absolute shocker, £7 8.7. it's an absolute shocker, bb nbbben— 8.7. it's an absolute shocker, £7 millionlday_ 8.7. it's an absolute shocker, £7 million day we're spending £7 million a day we're spending on-seeker hotels. - £7 million a day we're spending on seeker hotels. we have on asylum seeker hotels. we have got on asylum seeker hotels. we have eeb-nenev— on asylum seeker hotels. we have eeb-nenev ne— on asylum seeker hotels. we have eeb-nenev be- on asylum seeker hotels. we have got-money now to -to l got more money now to give to the got more money now to give to be bunebeen— got more money now to give to the european union, to give to ebnen— the european union, to give to ebnen bneuee— the european union, to give to other groups linked to the bunebeen— other groups linked to the bunebeen-bei other groups linked to the. european-to patrol european union, try to patrol euv-beeben— european union, try to patrol our borders instead of doing our own borders instead of doing ene-bnbne— our own borders instead of doing ene-bnbne-be- our own borders instead of doing one _thing-is just. one simple thing which is just bunn—

one simple thing which is just burn—beeb- one simple thing which is just turn—back anyway| one simple thing which is justi turn—back anyway . turn those boats back anyway. bb-e— turn those boats back anyway. bb-e bne— turn those boats back anyway. be be bvbbeeb— turn those boats back anyway. it's the typical christian ebene — it's the typical christian stance towards transgender issues seen as— stance towards transgender issues seen as too aggressive. bnnbebbene— issues seen as too aggressive. bnnbebbene ene— issues seen as too aggressive. christians are now— issues seen as too aggressive. christians are now being told bneb— christians are now being told bneb bneb— christians are now being told that their religious beliefs are eeeneeebve. — that their religious beliefs are aggressive. that— that their religious beliefs are aggressive. that is what a senior church— aggressive. that is what a senior church figure thinks. bnbe— senior church figure thinks. bnbe be— senior church figure thinks. bnbe be b— senior church figure thinks. this is it not— senior church figure thinks. this is it not a— senior church figure thinks. this is it not a christian eeunbvv— this is it not a christian eeunbnv .— this is it not a christian country . and- this is it not a christian country . and a reminder of this country. and a reminder of this eebbneen-e— country. and a reminder of this afternoon's huge— country. and a reminder of this afternoon's huge breaking news. a-been— afternoon's huge breaking news. a-been arrested- afternoon's huge breaking news. a been arrested after a man has been arrested after bne— a man has been arrested after bue—ebebbeb- a man has been arrested after two—stabbed at. two people were stabbed at benbneb— two people were stabbed at central hospital. two people were stabbed at- central- hospital. one central middlesex hospital. one of central middlesex hospital. one eb-vbebbne— central middlesex hospital. one of-victims has— central middlesex hospital. one of victims has injuries that of the victims has injuries that are of the victims has injuries that ene-bneebeb— of the victims has injuries that are-treated as- of the victims has injuries that are _treated as life- are being treated as life threatening.— are being treated as life threatening. armed police remain at threatening. armed police remain eb bne— threatening. armed police remain eb bne neebbbeb— threatening. armed police remain at the hospital. and we are evebbbne— at the hospital. and we are evebbbne bne— at the hospital. and we are awaiting the motives . we are awaiting the motives. we are evebbne— awaiting the motives. we are awaiting everything apart from the awaiting everything apart from be beeb— awaiting everything apart from the fact that— awaiting everything apart from the fact that we _ awaiting everything apart from the fact that we know that the man involved— the fact that we know that the man involved is— the fact that we know that the man involved is understood to neve— man involved is understood to neve neb— man involved is understood to have had self—inflicted, serious life threatening— have had self—inflicted, serious life threatening injuries as nebb— life threatening injuries as web enb— life threatening injuries as well, and is— life threatening injuries as well, and is in— life threatening injuries as well, and is in hospital but beebeebbve— well, and is in hospital but protective custody. i'm patrick bnnbebve— protective custody. i'm patrick bnnbebve en— protective custody. i'm patrick christys on gb— protective custody. i'm patrick christys on gb news. this is bnbbebn-e—

speech nation sunday nights from boo— speech nation sunday nights from me en— speech nation sunday nights from me en eb— speech nation sunday nights from 7:00 on gb news,— speech nation sunday nights from 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . bnenneb — 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel now,— 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel now, this— 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel now, this is- 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel \b2vni 7:00 on gb news, britain's news . channel \b2vvu' :b2 . channel now, this is a big story. it's a claim that the christian approach to

transgender issues is viewed as aggressive. the comment was from the reverend dr. malcolm brown, who's the church of england's director of faith and public life. he was saying that's how it's was speaking it's viewed. he was speaking after christy after teaching assistant christy higgs won an appeal against her sacking after she'd expressed her views on a trans book in a primary school. what is happening right is that happening right now is that people with christian beliefs in a christian country are being called aggressive bigots in a way that people who are members of another religious community, for like the muslim for example, like the muslim community, are not. they are treated tolerance and treated with tolerance and acceptance. christians , in acceptance. and christians, in my not. joining me now my view, are not. joining me now is director of the family is the director of the family education trust, peter williams. peter, christians being peter, why are christians being treated like this? is it because people aren't afraid of them? i think it's mainly because christians— think it's mainly because christians very- think it's mainly because christians very often have eenben— christians very often have gender critical— christians very often have gender critical beliefs , as gender critical beliefs, as bnevbe— gender critical beliefs, as they're called. _ gender critical beliefs, as they're called. other words, they're called. in other words, bnev— they're called. in other words, bnev-bne— they're called. in other words,i they-the _gender they oppose the kind of gender and they oppose the kind of gender ene-beeebeev— they oppose the kind of genderi and-ideology-being and sexual ideology that's being fed and sexual ideology that's being beb bn— and sexual ideology that's being fed in schools.— and sexual ideology that's being fed in schools. i— and sexual ideology that's being fed in schools. i mean, we're bnbeneebeb— fed in schools. i mean, we're bnbeneebeb-ee- fed in schools. i mean, we're interested as secular interested in this as a secular bnebbbubben. — institution. the family education— institution. the family education there education trust, because there are-assistants- education trust, because there are-assistants and. are teaching assistants and beeenene— are teaching assistants and teachers-well- are teaching assistants and teachers well as parents who teachers as well as parents who eebv— teachers as well as parents who neebv venb— teachers as well as parents who neebv venb be— teachers as well as parents who really want to have— teachers as well as parents who really want to have the freedom teachers as well as parents who reemanifest to have the freedom teachers as well as parents who reemanifest out ave the freedom teachers as well as parents who reemanifest out their�*ie freedom teachers as well as parents who reemanifest out their belief. jom

to manifest out their belief. bnb— to manifest out their belief. and-protected- to manifest out their belief. and protected under the and that's protected under the beuebbbv— and that's protected under the beebe-eeb.— and that's protected under the equality 2010, the freedom equality act 2010, the freedom to equality act 2010, the freedom be nenbeeb— equality act 2010, the freedom to manifest philosophical to manifest their philosophical or to manifest their philosophical en—bebeb- to manifest their philosophical or_ belief thati or indeed religious belief that eebuebv— or indeed religious belief that actually gender— or indeed religious belief that actually gender is actually gender ideology is nennbub — actually gender ideology is harmful. it's— actually gender ideology is harmful. it's not- actually gender ideology is harmful. . 22 2 harmful. it's not a good thing to introduce children. and when i look at to introduce children. and when b beeb eb bne— to introduce children. and when i look at the facebook- 22 22 2 ”2 2 and when i look at the facebook posts bneb— i look at the facebook posts bneb bnnbebv— i look at the facebook posts that christy higgs up in that christy higgs put up in bnbe—eeenl that christy higgs put up in. this—seemlme this case, it didn't seem to me be— this case, it didn't seem to me like-manifesting- like she was manifesting that in a like she was manifesting that in e—eb— like she was manifesting that in e—eb eb— a way that was at all problematic. - a way that was at all problematic. it a way that was at all- problematic. it-certainly, problematic. it was certainly, vou— problematic. it was certainly, you straightforward , but you know, straightforward, but it you know, straightforward, but bb—en— you know, straightforward, but bb—en neen- you know, straightforward, buti it_or mean spirited it wasn't rude or mean spirited . -eeene bne- it wasn't rude or mean spirited . _seems like because. . and it seems like because christians ones very . and it seems like because christ have ones very . and it seems like because christ have a ones very . and it seems like because christ have a very ones very . and it seems like because christ have a very principledvery often have a very principled opposition to this stuff , opposition to this stuff, they're the ones who have pushed back against. yeah, indeed. but i back against. yeah, indeed. but bbnb— back against. yeah, indeed. but bbnb b— back against. yeah, indeed. but bbnb bb beebe.— back against. yeah, indeed. but i find it deeply, deeply- i find it deeply, deeply offensive— i find it deeply, deeply offensive because we live in a bnnbebben— christian country and it's okay to christian country and it's okay be—vbevve- christian country and it's okay be—vbevve enbl christian country and it's okayi to_views and it's to have religious views and it's all to have religious views and it's ebb nebb— to have religious views and it's ebb nbenb ben— to have religious views and it's all right for other— to have religious views and it's all right for other people to neve— all right for other people to neve very— all right for other people to have very strong, forthright nebbebeue— have very strong, forthright religious views— have very strong, forthright religious views. but it have very strong, forthright religious views . but it doesn't religious views. but it doesn't bnbeeb— religious views. but it doesn't ebbeen-bb-e— religious views. but it doesn't ebbeen-bb-e ebev- religious views. but it doesn't appear it's okay for the appear that it's okay for the bnnbebbene. — appear that it's okay for the christians. and— appear that it's okay for the christians. and when christians say,— christians. and when christians eeb—bneee- christians. and when christians eeb—bnene enel say, i believe that there are be— say, i believe that there are bee—verv- say, i believe that there are. two _very tolerant two genders, i'm very tolerant of two genders, i'm very tolerant eb—be- two genders, i'm very tolerant- eb—be vvbebeven of anyone wanting to do whatever bnev—bnebbenl they want, that's no problem. bub— they want, that's no problem. bub b— they want, that's no problem. bub b ben-b— they want, that's no problem. but i don't want— they want, that's no problem. but i don't want to believe that bneee— but i don't want to believe that bnene-eenbene- but i don't want to believe that there-genders and- but i don't want to believe that there genders and ones there are 100 genders and ones of there are 100 genders and ones eb-sbbbb— there are 100 genders and ones of-spirit penguin- there are 100 genders and ones of spirit penguin or of two spirit penguin or vvbebeven— of two spirit penguin or whatever-are,- of two spirit penguin or whatever are, and you whatever they are, and you bnebenbbv— whatever they are, and you bnebenbbv-e- whatever they are, and you instantly a bigot with instantly become a bigot with out instantly become a bigot with eub eb— instantly become a bigot with eub eb beuen— instantly become a bigot with out of touch views and they want to out of touch views and they want be eeneeb— out of touch views and they want be eeneeb veu— out of touch views and they want be eeneeb veu .— out of touch views and they want to cancel you . and— out of touch views and they want

to cancel you . and i— out of touch views and they want to cancel you . and i wonder to cancel you. and i wonder ebebnee— to cancel you. and i wonder vnebnen en— to cancel you. and i wonder whether or not— to cancel you. and i wonder whether or not it's time for bnnbebbene— whether or not it's time for christians to— whether or not it's time for christians to be— whether or not it's time for christians to be stronger. i evee-e— christians to be stronger. i eneeg bueb— christians to be stronger. i agree. well, i'm— christians to be stronger. i agree. well, i'm speaking personally as a christian. certainly believe it's right to be ebenb— certainly believe it's right to be ebnene bn— certainly believe it's right to be strong in a— certainly believe it's right to be strong in a manner that is nebbeneb— be strong in a manner that is nebbeneb enb— be strong in a manner that is rational and charitable. .2b22 rational and charitable. as long as rational and charitable. as long ee veu— rational and charitable. as long ee veu being— rational and charitable. as long as you are being rational and charitable. ithink as you are being rational and charitable. i think there's ebeebubebv— charitable. i think there's absolutely every- 222” i think there's absolutely every case for every bnnbebben— absolutely every case for every christian-that— absolutely every case for every christian that thing is christian doing that thing is it's—because. it's very difficult because bneee— it's very difficult becausei bnene—beebbe it's very difficult because there _ people this there are so many people in this eeunbvv— there are so many people in this eeunbvv-neve— there are so many people in this eeunbnv-neve e— there are so many people in this country have a kind of country who have a kind of totalitarian _ country who have a kind of totalitarian-of- country who have a kind of totalitarian of mind in totalitarian turn of mind in vnben— totalitarian turn of mind in vnben bnev— totalitarian turn of mind in which they say,— totalitarian turn of mind in which they say, if you have bneee— which they say, if you have these views,— which they say, if you have these views, you- which they say, if you have these views, you are now unacceptable,— these views, you are now unacceptable, you're beyond the nebe— unacceptable, you're beyond the bebe enb— unacceptable, you're beyond the pale and what's— unacceptable, you're beyond the pale and what's that going to be? — pale and what's that going to be? -be— pale and what's that going to do? _to chill- do? it's going to chill a people's freedom speak or people's freedom to speak or maybe freedom of speech, which is the government comes is where the government comes in and ifs is where the government comes in and it's the and stops you. but it's the beeben— and stops you. but it's the beeben be— and stops you. but it's the freedom to speak,- 2 but it's the freedom to speak, to manifest veun— freedom to speak, to manifest veun-e— freedom to speak, to manifest veun-e nev- freedom to speak, to manifest veun-e vvev bneb- freedom to speak, to manifest your-a way that is. your beliefs in a way that is nebbeneb. — your beliefs in a way that is. rational. _noting rational. but it's worth noting that christian that when christian teachers have said have at times spoken up and said that agree with this that they don't agree with this transgender agenda , they can get transgender agenda, they can get hounded, court , fined a hounded, taken to court, fined a load of money, lose their jobs hounded, taken to court, fined a loadhaveioney, lose their jobs hounded, taken to court, fined a loadhave to ey, lose their jobs hounded, taken to court, fined a loadhave to sellose their jobs hounded, taken to court, fined a loadhave to sell theirieir jobs hounded, taken to court, fined a loadhave to sell their house. s and have to sell their house. there was a school in birmingham, a primary school that muslim that had a majority muslim population at population where the teacher at that the head teacher, that school, the head teacher, wanted a bit of wanted to put a little bit of education about same sex relationships that agenda .

relationships on that agenda. and happened a load of and what happened was a load of muslim up a muslim parents turned up with a billboard basically said billboard that basically said you're burn in hell. you're going to burn in hell. there and there you're going to burn in hell. there riot. and there you're going to burn in hell. there riot. can and there you're going to burn in hell. there riot. can you and there you're going to burn in hell. there riot. can you pleaseid there was a riot. can you please explain are explain to me how christians are the aggressors here? yeah, well, indeed, there's— the aggressors here? yeah, well, indeed, there'slcertain- indeed, there's a certain bbeebeev— indeed, there's a certain bbeebeev eb— indeed, there's a certain ideology of intersectionality bneb— ideology of intersectionality bneb ee— ideology of intersectionality that some people the that some people who are the neeb— that some people who are the most egalitarian— that some people who are the most egalitarian kind appeal most egalitarian kind of appeal to most egalitarian kind of appeal be—eev— most egalitarian kind of appeal be—eev .— most egalitarian kind of appeal be—eev . webb- to where they say, well, eebuebv— to where they say, well, actually, if— to where they say, well, actually, if you are a particular— actually, if you are a particular skin colour or if veube— particular skin colour or if you're particular particular skin colour or if you'relparticular or you're a particular sexuality or a you're a particular sexuality or e—nbnenbbvi a particular religious minority, bnen— a particular religious minority, bnen eb— a particular religious minority, bnen ebb eb— a particular religious minority, bnen ebb eb e— a particular religious minority, then all of a sudden you're kind of then all of a sudden you're kind eb been— then all of a sudden you're kind eb bevn bne— then all of a sudden you're kind of down the kind— then all of a sudden you're kind of down the kind spectrum of of down the kind of spectrum of nevveb— of down the kind of spectrum of power relations— of down the kind of spectrum of power relations .— of down the kind of spectrum of power relations . and therefore power relations. and therefore vvebe-be — power relations. and therefore vvebe-be ebbeee- power relations. and therefore we're to oppose what we're not going to oppose what veube— we're not going to oppose what veuennue-n- we're not going to oppose what you're much. whereas you're doing as much. whereas bnnbebbene— you're doing as much. whereas christians-seen— you're doing as much. whereas christians-seen as- you're doing as much. whereas christians seen as usually, christians are seen as usually, veu— christians are seen as usually, veu-eebuebv— christians are seen as usually, you-actually we're- christians are seen as usually, you actually we're not you know, actually we're not ebvbeuebv— obviously all white or all eeub— obviously all white or all sexual—but. obviously all white or all sexual—but this sexual or whatever, but on this bneb— sexual or whatever, but on this be vve-e— sexual or whatever, but on this that we're seeing _ sexual or whatever, but on this that we're seeing so far up in bneb— that we're seeing so far up in bneb-bneb— that we're seeing so far up in. that-that-actually that system that yeah, actually we that system that yeah, actually venue—n- that system that yeah, actually we _ much worse l we can be treated much worse bnen— we can be treated much worse bnen veu— we can be treated much worse than you would— we can be treated much worse than you would with someone ene-e— than you would with someone vvne-e—vne-e- than you would with someone who's who's jewish than you would with someone. who's—who's jewish or who's muslim or who's jewish or vvbebeven— who's muslim or who's jewish or whatever, - actually - whatever, who actually has, i bnbnb— whatever, who actually has, i bnbnb-bbne— whatever, who actually has, i think-time that- whatever, who actually has, i think time that christians think it's time that christians ebenbeb— think it's time that christians ebenbe-neve.- think it's time that christians started more, more started claiming more, more nebbebeue—. - started claiming more, more nebbebeue—. bl religious persecution. i beneebbv— religious persecution. i honestly do,— religious persecution. i honestly do, because other people are very protected by this and i really do. i don't want people to just use that card. don't want people to card. i don't want people to just hide behind that but just hide behind that card. but i time that people i think it is time that people were vocal were more vocal about persecution isn't

persecution because it isn't just and practising just active and practising christians. way, those christians. by the way, those people church every people who go to church every single sunday when i say we're a christian there's christian country, there's are millions who millions of people out there who don't but would don't go to church but would loosely being loosely identify as being christian having kind loosely identify as being chvalues having kind loosely identify as being chvalues norms kind loosely identify as being chvalues norms that kind loosely identify as being chvalues norms that are nd of values and norms that are attributed i don't attributed to those. and i don't think those people should be made are made to feel as though they are bigoted those views. could bigoted for those views. i could talk about this. talk to you all day about this. we are out of time, but thank you much for coming you very, very much for coming into i'll into the studio. again, i'll chat that, of chat to you very soon. that, of course, is peter williams. there who director of the who is the director of the family is family education trust. this is a care about, in a topic i care a lot about, in case couldn't tell, later on case you couldn't tell, later on i'm be to i'm going to be talking to an lgbtq+ activist this. lgbtq+ activist on this. i'm also talking to a also going to be talking to a member muslim community also going to be talking to a meit,)er muslim community also going to be talking to a meit, tries muslim community also going to be talking to a meit, tries to muslim community also going to be talking to a meit, tries to coverilim community also going to be talking to a meit, tries to coverilim basesiunity on it, tries to cover all bases here, but a reminder of this afternoon's breaking afternoon's huge breaking news. a arrested after afternoon's huge breaking news. a people arrested after afternoon's huge breaking news. a people were arrested after afternoon's huge breaking news. a people were stabbed after afternoon's huge breaking news. a people were stabbed at er two people were stabbed at central hospital. one central middlesex hospital. one of has injuries that of the victims has injuries that are being treated life are being treated as life threatening. police arrested a man hospital . he has man outside the hospital. he has been to hospital having been taken to hospital having received injuries are received injuries that are believed to be self—inflicted. and that are believed to be life threatening . police are not threatening. police are not treating as terror related treating this as terror related . very shortly, we will be going

live to central middlesex hospital to bring you the very , hospital to bring you the very, very latest. and the big one, of course , under the breaking news course, under the breaking news that we're going to talking that we're going to be talking about course of about throughout the course of this placed, well this show, a well placed, well connected source is connected gb news source is telling that sos signals have telling us that sos signals have been detected from a wreck near the titanic wall. so on earth is going on there. can anything be done to try to get those people who would appear still alive back to the surface? patrick christys on britain's christys on gb news britain's news .

channel away. it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now, in just a few moments time, we will be going live to central middlesex hospital a major middlesex hospital where a major breaking is taking breaking incident is taking place. two people been place. two people have been stabbed. one of is in a stabbed. one of them is in a life threatening condition. the attacker alleged attacker themselves, the alleged attacker themselves, the alleged

attacker also attacker themselves, is also in attacker themselves, is also in a life threatening condition, having been apprehended by police . i will be taking you to police. i will be taking you to the scene and we'll get the very latest. but in the other big breaking news well, time breaking news as well, this time stanek incident that's taking place , gb news sources are place, gb news sources are telling us that a distinct sos signal has been received, which would imply that the people on board that vessel are alive. however, there is a craft that can recover things at that depth where is it, though? it's on the channel islands. why why? well, it's been reported that the us is blocking it from entry. what on earth is going on there? in other news, the money in your pocket. i think it's time to start getting very angry about the state our economy. the state of our economy. inflation sticking at inflation again, sticking at 8.7. it has been our economy fundamentally mismanaged for far too long by people who, in my view, do not have your best interests at heart. talking to people who do have your best interests at heart are armed forces. we've got forces. however, we've got a massive problem because we're

being we're just being told that we're just clinging nato clinging on to our nato membership and influence our armed forces has been depleted and depleted and depleted yet again . we have the money for again. we have the money for everything else in the world. but it comes protecting but when it comes to protecting our own citizens, oh, sorry, we've got to make cutbacks. talking of own citizens as talking of our own citizens as well. okay. we are a well. christians okay. we are a christian country . even. there's christian country. even. there's millions of people out there who don't to church every sunday, don't go to church every sunday, but identify as being of but loosely identify as being of christian heritage. they are being bullied in my view, by people calling aggressive people calling them aggressive of bigots when it comes of outdated bigots when it comes to the transgender agenda that is gripping our education system at the moment. i'm going to speak to an lgbtq activist. i'm also going to speak to a member of the muslim to community talk about genuinely whether or not christians could learn a thing or two about standing up for their beliefs while the muslim community christys on . community patrick christys on. gb news loads to go out in just

a few moments time, we will be live outside central middlesex hospital. that email address. if you get in touch on any you want to get in touch on any of top topics you've of the top topics that you've heard gb and gb heard there. gb views and gb news your news .com. polly with your headunes . news .com. polly with your headlines . patrick headlines now though. patrick thank you. good 2 2 patrick thank you. good afternoon to veu— thank you. good afternoon to veu. vvebb— thank you. good afternoon to veu. vvebb bne— thank you. good afternoon to you. well, the top story today is you. well, the top story today be bneb— you. well, the top story today be be eb— you. well, the top story today is that gb news— you. well, the top story today is that gb news understands the tabiting— is that gb news understands the bebbbne bneb-e— is that gb news understands the tapping that's been detected in the tapping that's been detected in be eeenen— tapping that's been detected in the search for— tapping that's been detected in the search for the— tapping that's been detected in the search for the submersible beunbeb— the search for the submersible tourist vessel— the search for the submersible tourist vessel that went missing en neube— tourist vessel that went missing en neube be— tourist vessel that went missing en route to the— tourist vessel that went missing en route to the titanic . en route to the titanic. snbbvneeb— en route to the titanic. shipwreck in- en route to the titanic. shipwreck in the atlantic is bene— shipwreck in the atlantic is benee bebe— shipwreck in the atlantic is morse code for— shipwreck in the atlantic is morse code for sos or save our seube— morse code for sos or save our seube seunee— morse code for sos or save our seube seune .— morse code for sos or save our souls source . sources close to souls source. sources close to bne— souls source. sources close to be — souls source. sources close to the rescue tell— souls source. sources close to the rescue tell gb— souls source. sources close to the rescue tell gb news. the us beeebeuenb— the rescue tell gb news. the us coastguard also— the rescue tell gb news. the us coastguard also decided against bunbbne— coastguard also decided against bunbbne beeb— coastguard also decided against funding deep water salvage eeubbnenb— funding deep water salvage equipment brought in on military bnenebenb— equipment brought in on military transport because— equipment brought in on military transport because it's 3 to 4 beve— transport because it's 3 to 4 beve unev— transport because it's 3 to 4 beve evev. bne— transport because it's 3 to 4 days away. the missing vessel is beeben — days away. the missing vessel is beeben bebevv— days away. the missing vessel is 3800m below sea— days away. the missing vessel is 3800m below sea level , days away. the missing vessel is 3800m below sea level, and gb beve— 3800m below sea level, and gb news understands— 3800m below sea level, and gb news understands that last night two news understands that last night bve venbebee— news understands that last night two vehicles were _ news understands that last night two vehicles were sent down, but bebb— two vehicles were sent down, but bebn bnbbebeb— two vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at— two vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at 3000m deep. bbve— both imploded at 3000m deep. bbve neenbe— both imploded at 3000m deep. bbve beebbe ee— both imploded at 3000m deep. five people are inside the craft

enb— five people are inside the craft enb bnev— five people are inside the craft ene bnev nev— five people are inside the craft and they may have as little as 24 and they may have as little as be beuee— and they may have as little as 24 hours oxygen— and they may have as little as 24 hours oxygen left . british 24 hours oxygen left. british bebbebenb — 24 hours oxygen left. british pakistani businessman shahzad beveeb— pakistani businessman shahzad beveeb enb— pakistani businessman shahzad dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzad dawood and his son sulaiman are on dawood and his son sulaiman are en beebe.— dawood and his son sulaiman are en beebe. bene— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board, along with the british bbbbenebe— on board, along with the british billionaire explorer hamish benbbne— billionaire explorer hamish harding, marine operations ebeebebbeb— harding, marine operations specialist mike welham says the benebne— specialist mike welham says the benebne nebee— specialist mike welham says the banging noise could be a beebbbve— banging noise could be a positive sign— banging noise could be a positive sign . 2 3222 22 positive sign. he's banging. sounds are being heard every 30 minutes. now that is a very clear strategy by we would hope the occupants of that vessel to think right. we signal every 30 minutes, there's a little burst of activity because sound is probably the one way you can locate this submersible down there finding the vessel is just there finding the vessel is just the start because then you've got to get it up the opportunity to extract the five people from the vessel and get them into another vessel down there is nil. that's not going to happen . so you've got to get the vessel to the surface somehow. and that's a whole new challenge well from that news story well away from that news story and breaking news and some breaking news that

we've the last we've brought to you in the last hour. a man has been arrested bebevvbne—eb- hour. a man has been arrested following—at central| following a stabbing at central bbbbbeeex— following a stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west benben— middlesex hospital in west benben. bue— middlesex hospital in west london. two people sustained bnbunbee— london. two people sustained bnbunee ene— london. two people sustained injuries, one with— london. two people sustained injuries, one with life threatening- injuries, one with life threatening injuries. the euebeeb— threatening injuries. the euebeeb nee— threatening injuries. the suspect has been admitted to neebbbeb— suspect has been admitted to hospital with— suspect has been admitted to hospital with severe injuries suspect has been admitted to hospare with severe injuries suspect has been admitted to hospare beingvevere injuries suspect has been admitted to hospare being describedries suspect has been admitted to hospare being described as; that are being described as self—inflicted.— that are being described as self—inflicted. and life threatening. - self—inflicted. and life threatening. a spokesperson for the threatening. a spokesperson for be neebbbeb— threatening. a spokesperson for the hospital said— threatening. a spokesperson for the hospital said the building was temporarily— the hospital said the building was temporarily locked down but has was temporarily locked down but nee ee— was temporarily locked down but has since reopened. armed police bebbeveb— has since reopened. armed police were deployed to— has since reopened. armed police were deployed to the scene, but the were deployed to the scene, but be bnebbenb— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is not— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is not being bneebeb— the incident is not being bneebeb ee— the incident is not being treated as terror related . did treated as terror related. did bne— treated as terror related. did bne ube— treated as terror related. did the uk's inflation rate stay the bnbe— the uk's inflation rate stay the same this month,— the uk's inflation rate stay the same this month, despite expectations— same this month, despite expectations there may have been a expectations there may have been ebebe— expectations there may have been e bebe bne— expectations there may have been a fall? the office— expectations there may have been a fall? the office for national sbebbebbee— a fall? the office for national statistics released its figures enevbne— statistics released its figures showing inflation stayed at 8.7% up unbbb— showing inflation stayed at 8.7% up unbbb bev— showing inflation stayed at 8.7% up until may. that's the same nebe— up until may. that's the same nebe ee— up until may. that's the same nebe ee bebb— up until may. that's the same rate as april, and— up until may. that's the same rate as april, and it comes as bne— rate as april, and it comes as be ube— rate as april, and it comes as be we neb— rate as april, and it comes as the uk's net debt— rate as april, and it comes as the uk's net debt reached . £2.6 the uk's net debt reached. £2.6 bnbbbben— the uk's net debt reached. £2.6 bnbbbben eb— the uk's net debt reached. £2.6 trillion at the— the uk's net debt reached. £2.6 trillion at the end— the uk's net debt reached. £2.6 trillion at the end of may. meanwhile— trillion at the end of may. meanwhile the— trillion at the end of may. meanwhile the average uk house bnbee— meanwhile the average uk house price increased— meanwhile the average uk house price increased by— meanwhile the average uk house price increased by 3.5% in the 12 nenbne— price increased by 3.5% in the 12 nenbne be— price increased by 3.5% in the 12 months to april and a pmqs bnbe— 12 months to april and a pmqs this afternoon— 12 months to april and a pmqs this afternoon ,— 12 months to april and a pmqs this afternoon , the prime this afternoon, the prime bbbnbeben— this afternoon, the prime minister, rishi- this afternoon, the prime minister, rishi sunak, defended

the government's— minister, rishi sunak, defended the government's plans to tackle bnbebben— the government's plans to tackle inflation despite _ the government's plans to tackle inflation despite strong enbbbeben— inflation despite strong criticism from labour . \v2 inflation despite strong— criticism from labour . no amount criticism from labour. no amount of personal attacks and petty point scoring can disguise the fact that the honourable gentleman does not have a plan for this country. mr gentleman does not have a plan for this country . mr speaker, he for this country. mr speaker, he comes here every week to make the same petty points we are getting on and delivering for this country. yes, mr speaker , this country. yes, mr speaker, inflation is a challenge that's why we are on track to keep reducing it. we are reducing waiting lists. we are stopping the boats all while he is focussed on the past, the boats all while he is focussed on the past , focussed focussed on the past, focussed on the politics. it's all talk, whereas from this government and from this prime minister we deliver for the country the vantage point of his helicopter . everything might look fine , . everything might look fine, bub— . everything might look fine, bub bneb-e— . everything might look fine, but that's not— everything might look fine, but that's not the lived experience _ but that's not the lived experience of- but that's not the lived experience of those on the eneunb— experience of those on the eneunb .— experience of those on the ground . after— experience of those on the ground . after 13 years of ground. after 13 years of economic failure across the eeunbnv— economic failure across the countryv neenbe— economic failure across the country, people are paying the bnbee— country, people are paying the tube eb— country, people are paying the price of uncosted— country, people are paying the price of uncosted , reckless, price of uncosted, reckless, beneebne— price of uncosted, reckless, damaging decisions by the tory party— damaging decisions by the tory benbv enb— damaging decisions by the tory benv ene even— damaging decisions by the tory party and even now, as mortgages go through— party and even now, as mortgages go bnneuen bne—

party and even now, as mortgages go through the roof— party and even now, as mortgages go through the roof , the prime go through the roof, the prime bbbnbeben— go through the roof, the prime bbbnbeben be— go through the roof, the prime minister is planning to wave bnneuen— minister is planning to wave through honours and peerages for bneee— through honours and peerages for bneee vvbe— through honours and peerages for those who caused— through honours and peerages for those who caused misery for nbbbene— those who caused misery for nbbbbene . — those who caused misery for millions. now— those who caused misery for millions. mm" ”v2.2 . 2 those who caused misery for millions . mm" ”v2.2 . 2 �*vvb�* millions. now retail giants w.h. smith, marks and spencer and argos have all been named and shamed for failing to pay the minimum wage. almost £5 million was found to be owned to around 63,000 workers following investigations dating back as far as 2017 named employer laws have been made to pay back what they owed and have been fined around £7 million. high street retailer wh smith was the worst offender , according to hmrc, offender, according to hmrc, with the new figures claiming it failed to pay around 1 million to over 79,500 workers. the retailer blamed this on an error relating to its company uniform policy . the government has set policy. the government has set out a major package of financial support for ukraine to bolster the country's economic stability as it continues to push back russian forces . the package

russian forces. the package includes a £20 million boost in shaw companies working in ukraine. the funding, which includes £2.35 billion of world loan bank guarantees , will loan bank guarantees, will support the restoration of vital pubuc support the restoration of vital public services, including running schools and hospitals . running schools and hospitals. the prime minister says russia must pay for the destruction it's inflicted as a result of the war. that's your latest news. you're with gb news. more news. you're with gb news. more news as it happens. back now to . patrick regular viewers of this show will know that i normally like to start the hours with a little bit of a rant. we have been eenevneb— bit of a rant. we have been somewhat overtaken- . we have been somewhat overtaken those big somewhat overtaken by those big bneebbne— somewhat overtaken by those big breaking events,— somewhat overtaken by those big breaking events, taking place at benbneb— central middlesex hospital. i bueb— just wanted to keep you right up to just wanted to keep you right up be—ebbuebben- to date as the situation bevebebe— to date as the situation- develops - metropolia develops there. the metropolia bebbe— develops there. the metropolia nebee neve— develops there. the metropolia police have confirmed that two neenbe— police have confirmed that two beebbe neve— police have confirmed that two people have been— police have confirmed that two people have been stabbed outside benbneb— people have been stabbed outside central middlesex— people have been stabbed outside central middlesex hospital in

nebbnvveeb— central middlesex hospital in northwest london. one of the vbebbne— northwest london. one of the vbebbne nee— northwest london. one of the victims has life— northwest london. one of the victims has life threatening bnbunbee. — victims has life threatening bnbunee. bne— victims has life threatening injuries. the second has nen—bne— injuries. the second has non—life threatening wounds. the euebeeb— non—life threatening wounds. the euebeeb nee— non—life threatening wounds. the suspect has been— non—life threatening wounds. the suspect has been detained. he ebee— suspect has been detained. he ebee nee— suspect has been detained. he also has life— suspect has been detained. he also has life threatening bnbunbee— also has life threatening injuries, but— also has life threatening injuries, but they are believed to injuries, but they are believed be be— injuries, but they are believed be be eeb— injuries, but they are believed to be self inflicted. the bnebbenb— to be self inflicted. the incident is— to be self inflicted. the incident is not being treated as benenen— incident is not being treated as benenen eb— incident is not being treated as terrorism at this— incident is not being treated as terrorism at this stage. and the neebbbeb— terrorism at this stage. and the neebbbeb vee— terrorism at this stage. and the hospital was of— terrorism at this stage. and the hospital was of course, benbenenbv— hospital was of course, temporarily locked down. it's been— temporarily locked down. it's now been reopened. armed police ebbenbeb— now been reopened. armed police ebbenbeb bne— now been reopened. armed police attended the scene— now been reopened. armed police attended the scene and officers vvbb— attended the scene and officers vbbb enene— attended the scene and officers will remain at— attended the scene and officers will remain at the— attended the scene and officers will remain at the hospital vnbbeb— will remain at the hospital vnbbeb bne— will remain at the hospital whilst the police investigation nbnuee— whilst the police investigation nbnuee ee— whilst the police investigation continues as we— whilst the police investigation continues as we will go live to bneb— continues as we will go live to be eene— continues as we will go live to that scene very,— continues as we will go live to that scene very, very shortly . that scene very, very shortly. so that scene very, very shortly. be b-b— that scene very, very shortly. be b-b bnbne— that scene very, very shortly. so i'll bring you— that scene very, very shortly. so i'll bring you all of the bnbeeb— so i'll bring you all of the bebeeb en— so i'll bring you all of the latest on that— so i'll bring you all of the latest on that as we get it. bnebe— latest on that as we get it. bnebe vee— latest on that as we get it. there was an— latest on that as we get it. there was an air- latest on that as we get it. there was an air ambulance bnvebveb— there was an air ambulance bnvebveb. b— there was an air ambulance involved. it was— there was an air ambulance involved. it was a seriously, eenbeuebv— involved. it was a seriously, seriously major— involved. it was a seriously, seriously major operation and ebenenbe— seriously major operation and ebenenbe eb— seriously major operation and elements of that— seriously major operation and elements of that operation are eneebne. — elements of that operation are eneebne. se— elements of that operation are ongoing. so bring you ongoing. so we'll bring you ubbebee— ongoing. so we'll bring you ubbebee-ee- ongoing. so we'll bring you updates-as we- ongoing. so we'll bring you updates as we get it. updates on that as we get it. bub— updates on that as we get it. bub bnebe-e— updates on that as we get it. but there's loads— updates on that as we get it. but there's loads to get through bebev— but there's loads to get through today, including— but there's loads to get through today, including that story of course, and the— today, including that story of course, and the titanic issue as vvebb— course, and the titanic issue as vebb .— course, and the titanic issue as vebb . b— course, and the titanic issue as vebb . b bueb— course, and the titanic issue as well. i just wanted— course, and the titanic issue as well . i just wanted to talk well. i just wanted to talk ebeub— well. i just wanted to talk about-briefly- well. i just wanted to talk about briefly with well. i just wanted to talk- about-briefly with you, about this one briefly with you, if-okavv_ about this one briefly with you, if _okay, because - if that's okay, because i do beeb— if that's okay, because i do feel-strongly- if that's okay, because i do. feel-strongly-this. feel very strongly about this. bnb— feel very strongly about this. ene—eb- feel very strongly about this. anb—eb veu- feel very strongly about this. anb—eb veu be| feel very strongly about this.i and—of you do as and i know a lot of you do as web— and i know a lot of you do as vebb .— and i know a lot of you do as well . christians— and i know a lot of you do as well . christians are seen and i know a lot of you do as well. christians are seen as eeeneeebve— well. christians are seen as eeeneeebve bn— well. christians are seen as aggressive in court cases bnvebvbne— aggressive in court cases

involving transgender issues. bneb— involving transgender issues. be be— involving transgender issues. that is according to a senior ebe— that is according to a senior be eb— that is according to a senior member of the— that is according to a senior member of the church of england. and member of the church of england. anb bnev— member of the church of england. anb bnev ebben— member of the church of england. and they often lose— member of the church of england. and they often lose those court cases. christians— and they often lose those court cases. christians are under ebbeeb— cases. christians are under ebbeeb bn— cases. christians are under attack in britain. they're being bubbbeb— attack in britain. they're being bubbeb. vve— attack in britain. they're being bullied. we are— attack in britain. they're being bullied. we are a— attack in britain. they're being bullied. we are a christian beuee.— bullied. we are a christian eeunbnv. bven— bullied. we are a christian country. even millions of people vvbe— country. even millions of people vvne ben-b— country. even millions of people who don't actively— country. even millions of people who don't actively go to church even— who don't actively go to church every sunbev— who don't actively go to church every sunday would describe bneneebvee— every sunday would describe themselves-as- every sunday would describe themselves as christian. themselves loosely as christian. but themselves loosely as christian. bub vnen— themselves loosely as christian. bub vvnen bnev— themselves loosely as christian. but when they have a view that enbbbnen— but when they have a view that children shouldn't— but when they have a view that children shouldn't be taught bneb— children shouldn't be taught bneb bnene— children shouldn't be taught that there are _ children shouldn't be taught that there are 100 genders, that benenen— that there are 100 genders, that teachers should— that there are 100 genders, that teachers should help recommend eenbbeb— teachers should help recommend genital mutilate _ teachers should help recommend genital mutilate for children, be— genital mutilate for children, be — genital mutilate for children, be ne— genital mutilate for children, they are now seen as aggressive enb— they are now seen as aggressive enb ebenebve— they are now seen as aggressive and offensive of— they are now seen as aggressive and offensive of religious fundamentalists and that is ene— fundamentalists and that is wrong, sensible— fundamentalists and that is wrong, sensible teachers who ebenb — wrong, sensible teachers who ebenb ub— wrong, sensible teachers who stand up against— wrong, sensible teachers who stand up against this, lose bneb— stand up against this, lose bnebe-ebe— stand up against this, lose their jobs and— stand up against this, lose their jobs and face financial ruin. parents— their jobs and face financial ruin. parents are— their jobs and face financial ruin. parents are demonised and ebbenebbeeb— ruin. parents are demonised and stigmatised. why— ruin. parents are demonised and stigmatised. why simple, isn't it? stigmatised. why simple, isn't be be— stigmatised. why simple, isn't be be nebebv— stigmatised. why simple, isn't it? no nobody is— stigmatised. why simple, isn't it? no nobody is afraid about ebenbbne— it? no nobody is afraid about offending the— it? no nobody is afraid about offending the christians. bnevbe— offending the christians. bnevbe en— offending the christians. they're an easy, mild mannered bebeeb.— they're an easy, mild mannered bebeeb. bnene— they're an easy, mild mannered target. there easy— they're an easy, mild mannered target. there easy to bully . but target. there easy to bully. but the target. there easy to bully. but be buebn— target. there easy to bully. but the muslim community, they don't get the muslim community, they don't eeb bueneb— the muslim community, they don't get pushed around— the muslim community, they don't get pushed around like this. do bnev— get pushed around like this. do be bnen— get pushed around like this. do be bnevv bnev— get pushed around like this. do they know they are allowed to neve— they know they are allowed to neve bneb— they know they are allowed to have their religious ideas and evenbebv— have their religious ideas and everybody tolerates it? that's

bnebuebvbbv. — everybody tolerates it? that's inclusivity. that's diversity. beu— inclusivity. that's diversity. veu bnev— inclusivity. that's diversity. you know what— inclusivity. that's diversity. you know what else it is? fear if you know what else it is? fear b e— you know what else it is? fear b e nuebbn — you know what else it is? fear if a muslim teacher expressed concern over lgbtq+ madness bebne— concern over lgbtq+ madness bebne beneb— concern over lgbtq+ madness being forced down— concern over lgbtq+ madness being forced down kids throats enb— being forced down kids throats enb bnev— being forced down kids throats enb bnev beeb— being forced down kids throats and they lost their job for it, bnene— and they lost their job for it, there would— and they lost their job for it, there would be— and they lost their job for it, there would be riots on the ebneebe. — there would be riots on the ebneebe. b— there would be riots on the streets. i mean,— there would be riots on the streets. i mean, there is every benben— streets. i mean, there is every enene bneb— streets. i mean, there is every chance that it— streets. i mean, there is every chance that it might go too far. we chance that it might go too far. be be— chance that it might go too far. we bbb eee— chance that it might go too far. we did see parents that are predominantly— we did see parents that are predominantly muslim. primary eebeeb— predominantly muslim. primary school birmingham hold school in birmingham hold a demonstration— school in birmingham hold a demonstration teachers demonstration telling teachers bneb— demonstration telling teachers beb-vvebe— demonstration telling teachers beb-vene eebne— demonstration telling teachers that were going burn in that they were going to burn in neb— that they were going to burn in hell-discussing— that they were going to burn in hell discussing homosexual hell for discussing homosexual bebb— hell for discussing homosexual beebe—bnene- hell for discussing homosexual beebe—bnebe vei motty with pupils. so there we go. motty with pupils. so there we be. _venb- motty with pupils. so there wei ee—vvenb-ben go. that obviously went too far. bub— go. that obviously went too far. bub b— go. that obviously went too far. bub b bnene— go. that obviously went too far. but if there is— go. that obviously went too far. but if there is ever— go. that obviously went too far. but if there is ever an issue bneb— but if there is ever an issue bneb eeeb— but if there is ever an issue that cast aspersions against bebenbe— that cast aspersions against islamic fundamentalist beliefs , islamic fundamentalist beliefs, it islamic fundamentalist beliefs, bb ben-b— islamic fundamentalist beliefs, bb ben-b bene— islamic fundamentalist beliefs, it isn't long before there are bnebeebe— it isn't long before there are bnebeebe bn— it isn't long before there are protests in the— it isn't long before there are protests in the streets and massive aggressive fusses being nebe— massive aggressive fusses being nebe ebeub— massive aggressive fusses being nebe ebeub b.— massive aggressive fusses being made about it. whenever elements of made about it. whenever elements eb bne— made about it. whenever elements eb bbe buebn— made about it. whenever elements of the muslim community are ebbenbeb— of the muslim community are ebbenbeb .— of the muslim community are offended , there— of the muslim community are offended , there can be death offended, there can be death bbneebe— offended, there can be death threats involved.— offended, there can be death threats involved. hordes of neenbe— threats involved. hordes of beebbe eneee— threats involved. hordes of people emerge out of nowhere. bne— people emerge out of nowhere. bne bebee— people emerge out of nowhere. the police involved and the police get involved and evenbebv— the police get involved and- everybody—backwards everybody bends over backwards to everybody bends over backwards. be—bebbee to accommodate them. the police put to accommodate them. the police bub-bnbe— to accommodate them. the police put-into protective - put teachers into protective euebebv— put teachers into protective custody programs. the offensive bnbbvbbueb— custody programs. the offensive individual goes— custody programs. the offensive individual goes into hiding . and individual goes into hiding. and of course, majority of the of course, the majority of the neebe— of course, the majority of the nebe-bneb— of course, the majority of the media-their best- of course, the majority of the media their best to of course, the majority of the. media .their best to _out media do their best to make out “ke— media do their best to make out like-is— media do their best to make out like-is nothing— media do their best to make out like-is nothing .see - like there is nothing to see here.— like there is nothing to see here—are- like there is nothing to see. here-are— very here. lots of people are very

angry— here. lots of people are very angry-would- here. lots of people are very. angry-would.unfair here. lots of people are very- angry-would.unfair to angry. and it would be unfair to suggest—people- angry. and it would be unfair to suggest people who suggest that those people who happen— suggest that those people who happen-from - suggest that those people who happen from certain more happen to come from certain more exenee— happen to come from certain more extreme—thee- happen to come from certain more extreme that muslim extreme elements of that muslim community,— extreme elements of that muslim community, but— extreme elements of that muslim community, but when a christian takes— community, but when a christian eekee offence — community, but when a christian takes offence to— community, but when a christian takes offence to something and eeeueee— takes offence to something and eeeueee n— takes offence to something and eeeueee it ,— takes offence to something and vocalises it , they're told that vocalises it, they're told that their— vocalises it, they're told that their-ere — vocalises it, they're told that their are backward , their views are backward, outdated,— their views are backward, outdated, school their views are backward,- outdated,-school usually outdated, and the school usually finde— outdated, and the school usually findslconvenient_ outdated, and the school usually finds convenient move finds a convenient way to move them — finds a convenient way to move them em— finds a convenient way to move them om te— finds a convenient way to move them on the lgbtq+ lobby attacks tmem — them on the lgbtq+ lobby attacks tmem emttme— them on the lgbtq+ lobby attacks them online. the— them on the lgbtq+ lobby attacks them online. the vast majority of them online. the vast majority et tme— them online. the vast majority et the meme— them online. the vast majority of the media will— them online. the vast majority of the media will refer to them as a meet— of the media will refer to them as e ttget mt— of the media will refer to them as a bigot and they have to sell mett— as a bigot and they have to sell mete—mett- as a bigot and they have to sell their—their legal| their house to cover their legal tees-t —,- their house to cover their legal eeeet— ten-t- costs. big difference, isn't mete— costs. big difference, isn't there e— costs. big difference, isn't there 7 eme— costs. big difference, isn't there .7 one group of people is there? one group of people is treated— there.7 one group of people is treated like— there.7 one group of people is treated like a— there.7 one group of people is treated like a protected epeetee— treated like a protected epeetee-tel treated like a protected- species,-is treated species, the other is treated wttm — species, the other is treated with disdain.— species, the other is treated with disdain. one is tolerated mt— with disdain. one is tolerated mt me— with disdain. one is tolerated mt te— with disdain. one is tolerated and one is abused. now, from where— and one is abused. now, from where t-m— and one is abused. now, from where i'm sitting,— and one is abused. now, from where i'm sitting, people with cmtettem— where i'm sitting, people with christian beliefs— where i'm sitting, people with christian beliefs and views, tteee— christian beliefs and views, even those people who are just teeeety— even those people who are just loosely christian, _ even those people who are just loosely christian, british peepte— loosely christian, british peepte wttm— loosely christian, british people with traditional british wew— people with traditional british views are being— people with traditional british views are being treated like eeeemt— views are being treated like second class— views are being treated like second class citizens in their eewmtw— second class citizens in their eewmtw .— second class citizens in their own country . well, that's what own country. well, that's what i tmmt— own country. well, that's what i tmmt .— own country. well, that's what i tmmt . went— own country. well, that's what i think i want to— own country. well, that's what i think i want to hear from you on me— think i want to hear from you on the me— think i want to hear from you on the me vtewe— think i want to hear from you on this gb views at— think i want to hear from you on this gb views at gb news dot t-tt— this gb views at gb news dot t-tt te— this gb views at gb news dot com. i'll be returning to that stew— com. i'll be returning to that stew e— com. i'll be returning to that story a ttttte— com. i'll be returning to that story a little bit— com. i'll be returning to that story a little bit later on with an

story a little bit later on with em-eettwet- story a little bit later on with an-activist and - story a little bit later on with. an-activist and-in an lgbtq+ activist and also in me— an lgbtq+ activist and also in the mett— an lgbtq+ activist and also in the next mew— an lgbtq+ activist and also in the next hour with— an lgbtq+ activist and also in the next hour with somebody who is a the next hour with somebody who te e emte— the next hour with somebody who is a member of— the next hour with somebody who is a member of the— the next hour with somebody who is a member of the muslim eemmwmttw— is a member of the muslim community actually discuss community to actually discuss whether— community to actually discuss whether-twe— community to actually discuss whether the christians whether or not the christians eewtt — whether or not the christians eewtt teem— whether or not the christians could learn a— whether or not the christians could learn a thing or two from some elements— could learn a thing or two from some elements muslim some elements of the muslim eemmwmttw— some elements of the muslimj community—afraid some elements of the muslim. community—afraid to community who are not afraid to stem— community who are not afraid to etemt-wtet— community who are not afraid to stand-what they- community who are not afraid to stand what they believe stand up for what they believe in. stand up for what they believe m. eut— stand up for what they believe m. ewt mete— stand up for what they believe in. but there we— stand up for what they believe in. but there we go. but yes, some breaking— in. but there we go. but yes, some breaking news at 6:00. this is some breaking news at 6:00. this te tw— some breaking news at 6:00. this te wt ttme— some breaking news at 6:00. this te wt ttme. se— some breaking news at 6:00. this is uk time. so at— some breaking news at 6:00. this is uk time. so at 6:00, uk time ,fl.._ is uk time. so at 6:00, uk time the us— is uk time. so at 6:00, uk time , the us coastguard— is uk time. so at 6:00, uk time , the us coastguard will give a news conference— , the us coastguard will give a news conference on that submersible— news conference on that submersible vessel that went mteetme— submersible vessel that went missing while— submersible vessel that went missing while on a trip to the week— missing while on a trip to the meet et— missing while on a trip to the meet et me— missing while on a trip to the wreck of the titanic. we will, of course, bring— wreck of the titanic. we will, of course, bring that to you twe— of course, bring that to you ttwe .— of course, bring that to you ttwe . ee— of course, bring that to you live . gb news— of course, bring that to you live . gb news understands that live. gb news understands that rescuers searching— live. gb news understands that rescuers searching for the mem— rescuers searching for the ttteme eut— rescuers searching for the titans sub have heard regular tapping— titans sub have heard regular teppmg eemee— titans sub have heard regular tapping sounds in the form of metres— tapping sounds in the form of distress signals— tapping sounds in the form of distress signals from where that weeeet— distress signals from where that eeet went— distress signals from where that vessel went missing. new reports etee— vessel went missing. new reports etee etteee— vessel went missing. new reports also allege safety— vessel went missing. new reports also allege safety fears were mteet — also allege safety fears were mteet ewe— also allege safety fears were raised over the _ also allege safety fears were raised over the vessel before it went— raised over the vessel before it went mteetmg. — raised over the vessel before it went missing. and— raised over the vessel before it went missing. and according to ewttettttee— went missing. and according to ewttettttee ,— went missing. and according to authorities , as— went missing. and according to authorities , as there is around authorities, as there is around authorities, as there is around e twe— authorities, as there is around a days slmph/— authorities, as there is around a days supply of_ authorities, as there is around a days supply of oxygen left now , i a days supply of oxygen left now , . em— a days supply of oxygen left now , . am joined— a days supply of oxygen left now , i am joined now— a days supply of oxygen left now , i am joined now by a remarkable— , i am joined now by a remarkable guest actually obe, a teeemetme— remarkable guest actually obe, a fascinating individual . and

fascinating individual. and ettmewem— fascinating individual. and although it's— fascinating individual. and although it's under incredibly tweet— although it's under incredibly bleak circumstances, i'm very, very— bleak circumstances, i'm very, very pteeeet— bleak circumstances, i'm very, very pteeeet te— bleak circumstances, i'm very, very pleased to be having a chat wttt— very pleased to be having a chat mm mm.— very pleased to be having a chat mm mm. tt-e— very pleased to be having a chat with him. it's mike— very pleased to be having a chat with him. it's mike reese, who is with him. it's mike reese, who te e— with him. it's mike reese, who te e wetter— with him. it's mike reese, who te e wtttet em— with him. it's mike reese, who is a writer on the— with him. it's mike reese, who is a writer on the simpsons and who— is a writer on the simpsons and who wettet— is a writer on the simpsons and who visited the— is a writer on the simpsons and who visited the wreck of the meme— who visited the wreck of the titanic last— who visited the wreck of the titanic last july— who visited the wreck of the titanic last july on the same submersible— titanic last july on the same submersible that has gone missing-— submersible that has gone mteetmg. amt— submersible that has gone missing. and with mike is his wtte— missing. and with mike is his wtte, eemee,— missing. and with mike is his wife, denise, who had been due to mate— wife, denise, who had been due to mate the— wife, denise, who had been due to make the same— wife, denise, who had been due to make the same trip but eewttm-t— to make the same trip but eewttm-t ge— to make the same trip but couldn't go after testing peetttwe— couldn't go after testing positive for— couldn't go after testing positive for covid, i believe me— positive for covid, i believe has previously— positive for covid, i believe has previously been on several twee— has previously been on several twee wttm— has previously been on several dives with oceangate, both of you,— dives with oceangate, both of yo. tmemt— dives with oceangate, both of wow tmmt wow— dives with oceangate, both of you, thank you very, very much . you, thank you very, very much. it you, thank you very, very much. tt te— you, thank you very, very much. tt te teet— you, thank you very, very much. it is look subject— you, thank you very, very much. it is look subject matter aside, ttememtewe— it is look subject matter aside, tremendous to— it is look subject matter aside, tremendous to actually meet you and tremendous to actually meet you mt tatt— tremendous to actually meet you mt tett te— tremendous to actually meet you mt tett to wow— tremendous to actually meet you and talk to you on— tremendous to actually meet you and talk to you on the show. but to and talk to you on the show. but te-mettet— and talk to you on the show. but te-mettet m— and talk to you on the show. but to-matter in hand,- and talk to you on the show. but to matter in hand, to the to the matter in hand, to the matter— to the matter in hand, to the matter m— to the matter in hand, to the matter in hand. _ to the matter in hand, to the matter in hand. and mike, can i etett— matter in hand. and mike, can i etett-wmet— matter in hand. and mike, can i etett-wmet te- matter in hand. and mike, can i start-what is it- matter in hand. and mike, can i start what is it like start with you.7 what is it like to start with you? what is it like to te— start with you? what is it like to te em— start with you? what is it like to be on me— start with you? what is it like to be on this vessel and you've eetwettw— to be on this vessel and you've eetwettw teem— to be on this vessel and you've actually been on— to be on this vessel and you've actually been on this vessel, ttgtt. — actually been on this vessel, ttgmt. amt— actually been on this vessel, right. and you've— actually been on this vessel, right. and you've been is that meme— right. and you've been is that meme whet-e— right. and you've been is that right? what's going on? o" right? what's going on? on the very— right? what's going on? on the very eut— right? what's going on? on the very ewt tttt-e— right? what's going on? on the very sub that's in— right? what's going on? on the very sub that's in distress right now ? and i did take it to right now? and i did take it to the bottom of the sea. and i did see the titanic from it. and you know, a lot of talk is going on

about the safety of the vessel. it is a very , very, very risky it is a very, very, very risky proposition. there's any one who booked this trip knew it was going to be risky. booked this trip knew it was going to be risky . you sign going to be risky. you sign a lengthy waiver that lists really 100 ways to die , things that 100 ways to die, things that could go wrong . so everyone could go wrong. so everyone walks into this with open, open eyes. it's it reminds me of the early space program where people did everything to keep the astronauts safe. but things went wrong multiple times. and you go on and you hope for the best and you're prepared for the worst . you're prepared for the worst. and denise , obviously, mike was and denise, obviously, mike was ttme— and denise, obviously, mike was fine amt— and denise, obviously, mike was fine amt thet— and denise, obviously, mike was fine. and that trip— and denise, obviously, mike was fine. and that trip went very wet.— fine. and that trip went very wet stew,— fine. and that trip went very well. sadly, right now , what we well. sadly, right now, what we mete— well. sadly, right now, what we have me— well. sadly, right now, what we have are several— well. sadly, right now, what we have are several all wives who met— have are several all wives who met m— have are several all wives who met m the— have are several all wives who are not in the same position met— are not in the same position that you— are not in the same position met you me— are not in the same position that you are, who clearly i me— that you are, who clearly i mean, the mind- that you are, who clearly i mean, the mind boggles to think about— mean, the mind boggles to think about whet— mean, the mind boggles to think about what kind— mean, the mind boggles to think about what kind of— mean, the mind boggles to think about what kind of emotional twmett— about what kind of emotional turmoil there— about what kind of emotional turmoil there are—

about what kind of emotional turmoil there are going through. what— turmoil there are going through. what wee— turmoil there are going through. what vou— turmoil there are going through. what were you like about mike metmg— what were you like about mike mm the— what were you like about mike mm the ttm— what were you like about mike making the trip ?_ what were you like about mike making the trip ? i mean, you making the trip? i mean, you wanted— making the trip? i mean, you wemtet te— making the trip? i mean, you wanted to actually be with him on wanted to actually be with him om te— wanted to actually be with him on the ttm— wanted to actually be with him on the trip, didn't— wanted to actually be with him on the trip, didn't you? yes we were meant to— on the trip, didn't you? yes we were meant to go— on the trip, didn't you? yes we were meant to go together. so when— were meant to go together. so when _ adventures i when we do these adventures together and there's any risk, we figure at least we'll go together. but when we were apart and was probably the most and he was in probably the most dangerous situation he's ever been in, i was worried all day. i skulking around mission i was skulking around mission control trying to find out where the sub was , and i kind of the sub was, and i kind of thought the worst could happen . thought the worst could happen. and if he's gone and all the simpsons writers will hate me forever, all his family will hate me, and i'm going to live in anonymous, solitary existence . this will be the end of my life as i know it. if something happens, goodness gracious me. and again, you know, i just want to tettemte— and again, you know, i just want to reiterate that— and again, you know, i just want to reiterate that the breaking met— to reiterate that the breaking news that we'd— to reiterate that the breaking news that we'd had a little wmte— news that we'd had a little wmte eee— news that we'd had a little while ago was— news that we'd had a little while ago was that distress etgmete— while ago was that distress etgmete wee— while ago was that distress signals was knocking, tapping in the term — signals was knocking, tapping in the term et— signals was knocking, tapping in the form of an— signals was knocking, tapping in the form of an sos signal. signals was knocking, tapping in the form of an sos signal . you the form of an sos signal. you mete— the form of an sos signal. you have tepettettw— the form of an sos signal. you have reportedly this is eeeettmg— have reportedly this is according to- have reportedly this is according to a news source, been teem— according to a news source, been teem teem —

according to a news source, been teem teem mem— according to a news source, been heard from near the— according to a news source, been heard from near the titanic. so at me— heard from near the titanic. so at the moment— heard from near the titanic. so at the moment ,— heard from near the titanic. so at the moment , the clock is at the moment, the clock is ttetmg. — at the moment, the clock is ttetmg. oxygen— at the moment, the clock is ticking. oxygen is running out mt— ticking. oxygen is running out mt every— ticking. oxygen is running out and every breath— ticking. oxygen is running out and every breath matters. but tmeee— and every breath matters. but tmeee peepte— and every breath matters. but those people are— and every breath matters. but those people are believed to be ettwe— those people are believed to be ettwe .— those people are believed to be ettwe . ttme— those people are believed to be alive . mike, you— those people are believed to be alive . mike, you mentioned the alive. mike, you mentioned the eetetw— alive. mike, you mentioned the eetetw et— alive. mike, you mentioned the eetetw et tme— alive. mike, you mentioned the safety of this craft. you said met— safety of this craft. you said that we — safety of this craft. you said that you knew— safety of this craft. you said that you knew what you were gettmg— that you knew what you were gettmg me.— that you knew what you were getting into. there are a mwmtet— getting into. there are a hundred ways- getting into. there are a hundred ways to die on this tmmg. — hundred ways to die on this tmmg. tt-e— hundred ways to die on this thing. it's like— hundred ways to die on this thing. it's like early years emee— thing. it's like early years space exploration. but i mean, do space exploration. but i mean, to wow— space exploration. but i mean, to wow tmmt— space exploration. but i mean, do you think that— space exploration. but i mean, do you think that the people on it do you think that the people on tt mw— do you think that the people on tt wttt— do you think that the people on it now will be— do you think that the people on it now will be keeping a calm teete— it now will be keeping a calm meete tt— it now will be keeping a calm head? it seems— it now will be keeping a calm head? it seems like a little tin tt-e— head? it seems like a little tin can. it's well,— head? it seems like a little tin can. it's well, it's— head? it seems like a little tin can. it's well, it's a- head? it seems like a little tin can. c c wig can. it's well, it's a very sturdy tin can and a lot has been made about the simply necessity of it that it's just the two really. and that you steer it with the real joy stick from a game console and you know, people are using that to paint it as kind of a rinky dink thing when actually it's a real charm to it all. how simple it is that , you know, in a pinch is that, you know, in a pinch i knew how to steer this ship. i navigated the sub for a while . navigated the sub for a while. and you know, it just it just

sinks to the bottom of the ocean by gravity. and then when you're done exploring , you release done exploring, you release weights and you bob to the surface with buoyancy . it's surface with buoyancy. it's extremely low tech, which i liked about it. it was it was a beautiful experience. it's something to know. and despite the fact that death was looming and despite the fact that this is the most exciting thing i've ever done, i fell asleep on the way down. it was just so it was dimly lit. it was quite lit. everyone was calm that i actually dozed off until we hit the floor of the ocean . i mean, the floor of the ocean. i mean, there's a lot to what you've just said there that is absolute remarkable. mike, i'll be honest wttm— remarkable. mike, i'll be honest wttm vou— remarkable. mike, i'll be honest wttm wow .— remarkable. mike, i'll be honest with you . difficult— remarkable. mike, i'll be honest with you . difficult to— mike, i'll be honest with you . difficult to know with you. difficult to know where— with you. difficult to know where to— with you. difficult to know where to digest all of that in mt— where to digest all of that in mt eem— where to digest all of that in mt .— where to digest all of that in and can i ask— where to digest all of that in and can i ask i'll— where to digest all of that in and can i ask i'll ask you, eemee— and can i ask i'll ask you, eemee ,— and can i ask i'll ask you, eemee , ee— and can i ask i'll ask you, denise , as we— and can i ask i'll ask you, denise , as we understand it, the denise, as we understand it, the emet— denise, as we understand it, the chief executive— denise, as we understand it, the chief executive and— denise, as we understand it, the chief executive and founder of oeeemeete— chief executive and founder of oceangate stockton , rush is on oceangate stockton, rush is on me— oceangate stockton, rush is on the eeet— oceangate stockton, rush is on this vessel. denise— oceangate stockton, rush is on this vessel. denise i'll ask

you,— this vessel. denise i'll ask you, me— this vessel. denise i'll ask yew, ttt wow— this vessel. denise i'll ask you, did you did you meet steettem— you, did you did you meet stockton? what's he what's he twe— stockton? what's he what's he ttte 7— stockton? what's he what's he like ? because— stockton? what's he what's he like ? because again, when like? because again, when etettee— like? because again, when stories like— like? because again, when stories like this happen, you mew,— stories like this happen, you mew, e— stories like this happen, you mew, e tet— stories like this happen, you know, a lot of— stories like this happen, you know, a lot of criticism gets tewettet— know, a lot of criticism gets tewettet et— know, a lot of criticism gets levelled at these people. they twe— levelled at these people. they seem like these— levelled at these people. they seem like these these wacky mwemete— seem like these these wacky inventors that _ seem like these these wacky inventors that put public safety at met— inventors that put public safety at met m— inventors that put public safety at risk in order— inventors that put public safety at risk in order to— inventors that put public safety at risk in order to try and team— at risk in order to try and teach me— at risk in order to try and reach this bizarre goal. i mean, twe— reach this bizarre goal. i mean, have you— reach this bizarre goal. i mean, mate you met— reach this bizarre goal. i mean, have you met the— reach this bizarre goal. i mean, have you met the guy ? “tit: reach this bizarre goal. i mean, have you met the guy ? “4115 have you met the guy? yes, we wowed— have you met the guy? yes, we worked wttt— have you met the guy? yes, we worked with him . we did a very worked with him. we did a very deep dive with him. he piloted a different submersible with us in it down to the hudson canyon , a it down to the hudson canyon, a very deep dive, very dangerous . very deep dive, very dangerous. and no one had ever gone to the bottom of hudson canyon, as i understand it. we didn't know that when we signed up that no one ever done that before . one had ever done that before. however, complete trust in however, i had complete trust in him. i felt he was a visionary. he was doing something. no one else was doing. he found ways to do really very impossible, very difficult things . and i always difficult things. and i always saw him as a very handsome, super hero in a way. he was he was doing such extraordinary things. i'm i feel terrible that he was on that ship . it's the

he was on that ship. it's the thing he was on that ship. it's the tmme met— he was on that ship. it's the thing that makes— he was on that ship. it's the thing that makes me- cit" it's the thing that makes me most epttmtette— thing that makes me most optimistic about the problems mew-te— optimistic about the problems they're having— optimistic about the problems they're having is— optimistic about the problems they're having is that he is on temt— they're having is that he is on teem twe— they're having is that he is on board the sub— they're having is that he is on board the sub he— they're having is that he is on board the sub he built that sub trem— board the sub he built that sub tom the— board the sub he built that sub from the ground— board the sub he built that sub from the ground up. he is an aerospace engineer. obviously if he aerospace engineer. obviously if we thought— aerospace engineer. obviously if we thought tt— aerospace engineer. obviously if he thought it was— aerospace engineer. obviously if he thought it was very dangerous , te— he thought it was very dangerous , me wewttm-t— he thought it was very dangerous , he wouldn't be— he thought it was very dangerous , he wouldn't be on— he thought it was very dangerous , he wouldn't be on it. but he's mete— , he wouldn't be on it. but he's there mt— , he wouldn't be on it. but he's there and he's— , he wouldn't be on it. but he's there and he's just— , he wouldn't be on it. but he's there and he's just a masterful teeter— there and he's just a masterful teeter tee.— there and he's just a masterful leader too. he— there and he's just a masterful leader too. he built the thing wttm— leader too. he built the thing wttm tme— leader too. he built the thing with this team _ leader too. he built the thing with this team who just admire mm— with this team who just admire mm eet— with this team who just admire him and respect— with this team who just admire him and respect him and he knows wret— him and respect him and he knows wtet te— him and respect him and he knows wtet to te— him and respect him and he knows wtet to to m— him and respect him and he knows wtet to to m e— him and respect him and he knows what to do in a crisis— him and respect him and he knows what to do in a crisis and he's teet— what to do in a crisis and he's twet very— what to do in a crisis and he's just very focussed— what to do in a crisis and he's just very focussed and the most tetett— just very focussed and the most detail oriented— just very focussed and the most detail oriented man i've ever met.— detail oriented man i've ever met. se— detail oriented man i've ever met. so wk..— detail oriented man i've ever met. so mike, when you were on tree— met. so mike, when you were on there eme— met. so mike, when you were on there emt wee— met. so mike, when you were on there and you were— met. so mike, when you were on there and you were going down tetere— there and you were going down tetere, wee— there and you were going down before, you nodded off , i mean, before, you nodded off, i mean, did before, you nodded off, i mean, ttt emwtmme— before, you nodded off, i mean, ttt emwtmme 90— before, you nodded off, i mean, did anything go wrong ? "j t: c did anything go wrong? did it did anything go wrong? did it we tt— did anything go wrong? did it we tt eu— did anything go wrong? did it we tt ett 90— did anything go wrong? did it did it all go smoothly ? were did it all go smoothly? were there any hiccups? was there any signs of you or any indication to you whatsoever ever that you know something could go wrong in the future ? there is you know, the future? there is you know, we've as denise mentioned , we we've as denise mentioned, we took three separate dives with

him before this one. and the four we've taken— him before this one. and the four we've taken in- " and the four we've taken in total , there four we've taken in total, there etwewe— four we've taken in total, there were always communication tt-e— were always communication issues. it'sjust_ were always communication issues. it's just it's not the tewtt— issues. it's just it's not the tewtt et— issues. it's just it's not the fault of the _ issues. it's just it's not the fault of the sub- issues. it's just it's not the fault of the sub or the ocean eete— fault of the sub or the ocean eete .— fault of the sub or the ocean eete . tt-e— fault of the sub or the ocean eete . we the— fault of the sub or the ocean gate . it's the fault of very gate. it's the fault of very teep— gate. it's the fault of very teep weter— gate. it's the fault of very deep water that communicate meter— deep water that communicate mettem eeee— deep water that communicate nation goes in— deep water that communicate nation goes in and out and so there— nation goes in and out and so there wee— nation goes in and out and so there was there— nation goes in and out and so there was there was a little trewtte— there was there was a little trouble connecting with them we mt— trouble connecting with them once we hit the— trouble connecting with them once we hit the ocean floor and tem— once we hit the ocean floor and then me— once we hit the ocean floor and them te— once we hit the ocean floor and then more to the— once we hit the ocean floor and then more to the point is just communication— then more to the point is just communication in— then more to the point is just communication in confusion . the communication in confusion. the ttee— communication in confusion. the ttee treet— communication in confusion. the ttee the were— communication in confusion. the idea that we're trying to find the idea that we're trying to find ttee tttemte— idea that we're trying to find the titanic, they— idea that we're trying to find the titanic, they are giving us ewttemee— the titanic, they are giving us guidance from _ the titanic, they are giving us guidance from above . and what guidance from above. and what mew— guidance from above. and what they wee— guidance from above. and what they eewme— guidance from above. and what they were saying was not eemeetme— they were saying was not connecting well with what we eeene.— connecting well with what we were seeing. and— connecting well with what we were seeing. and so it took a wmte— were seeing. and so it took a wee teet— were seeing. and so it took a wee twet te— were seeing. and so it took a while just to find— were seeing. and so it took a while just to find their stride eet— while just to find their stride emt mete— while just to find their stride and make sure— while just to find their stride and make sure they were they ett— and make sure they were they ett em— and make sure they were they were all on the— and make sure they were they were all on the same page . and were all on the same page. and mew— were all on the same page. and ttew tte— were all on the same page. and once they did that,— were all on the same page. and once they did that, yeah, we did ttme— once they did that, yeah, we did ttmt tte— once they did that, yeah, we did find the titanic— once they did that, yeah, we did find the titanic . _ once they did that, yeah, we did find the titanic . i— once they did that, yeah, we did find the titanic . " once they did that, yeah, we did find the titanic . find the titanic. i mean, this is absolutely fascinating and it's worth noting them for people that clearly , from what people that clearly, from what you're saying, you us the length

of time that this craft has been stuck is obviously now a massive concern and that that's new. but the idea that there was communication issues or that there was the capacity for things to go wrong, that's not new. that is something that you experienced and i've got to ask denise . mike managed to get down denise. mike managed to get down there and mike managed to see there and mike managed to see the titanic. if everything goes well and these people are rescued. denise would you go back on that vessel and go and try to find the titanic? do you think i was considering doing it again this year and i was coaxing another friend of mine to come with whom i've been in touch . yes, i think i would do touch. yes, i think i would do it. touch. yes, i think i would do tt. .— touch. yes, i think i would do tt. . wewtt— touch. yes, i think i would do tt. . wewtt .— touch. yes, i think i would do it. i would i might— a:::rrt. yes, i think i would do it. i would i might try air.rt yes, i think i would do it. i would i might try to do tte— it. i would i might try to do the ester.— it. i would i might try to do this again. even— it. i would i might try to do this again. even with the same wttt— this again. even with the same wttm tte— this again. even with the same with the same— this again. even with the same with the same group on the same eeet — with the same group on the same eeet wette— with the same group on the same vessel. would mike— with the same group on the same vessel. d i vessel. would mike again, same question to you. so both of you , even now we are having , you , even now we are having, you know, the story of potentially disaster, both both of you would

get on that vessel and go back down there to the bottom of the ocean if they're returned safely . iwould ocean if they're returned safely . i would do it if they don't teet— . i would do it if they don't come back safely- i would do it if they don't come back safely . uh, you know, come back safely. uh, you know, eertemtw— come back safely. uh, you know, eertemtw .— come back safely. uh, you know, eertemtw . wee— come back safely. uh, you know, certainly , you know, i'm not an certainly, you know, i'm not an tetet— certainly, you know, i'm not an tttet. tt— certainly, you know, i'm not an idiot. it would— certainly, you know, i'm not an idiot. it would give me great pewee— idiot. it would give me great eewee eet— idiot. it would give me great pause and people should take a teee— pause and people should take a teee trem— pause and people should take a lesson from this— pause and people should take a lesson from this and that we're developing— lesson from this and that we're developing ett— lesson from this and that we're developing all this space tewrtem— developing all this space tourism now— developing all this space tourism now ,— developing all this space tourism now , and they're in the tourism now, and they're in the erect— tourism now, and they're in the exact same position. and you mew.— exact same position. and you mew. mew— exact same position. and you mew. ttew .— exact same position. and you know, they i hope they learn trem— know, they i hope they learn from tte— know, they i hope they learn from this example as they can mete— from this example as they can mete tt— from this example as they can mete tt ee— from this example as they can make it as safe— from this example as they can make it as safe as— from this example as they can make it as safe as they can, but mew-re— make it as safe as they can, but mew-re meter— make it as safe as they can, but they're never prepared for ewerwtmme. — they're never prepared for everything. okay �*vw�*i�* ti crir everything. okay when mike. go on, go on. who brought- everything. okay �*vw�*i�* ti crir tit" grir tit" who brought extra on, go on. who brought extra paper— on, go on. who brought extra peter ee— on, go on. who brought extra peter ee te— on, go on. who brought extra paper so he could— tit" grir tit" who brought extra paper so he could he knew he wewtt— paper so he could he knew he wewtt mete— paper so he could he knew he would have five— paper so he could he knew he would have five days of oxygen if would have five days of oxygen tt emwtmme — would have five days of oxygen if anything went— would have five days of oxygen if anything went wrong and he thought— if anything went wrong and he thought we— if anything went wrong and he thought he would write his last tetee— thought he would write his last teteeleeee— thought he would write his last jokes.case.was- thought he would write his last jokes case was found. he jokes in case he was found. he wewtt— jokes in case he was found. he wewtt tete— jokes in case he was found. he would have written something temt— would have written something twmw et— would have written something twmw et tte— would have written something funny at the end.— would have written something funny at the end. i think there mtett— funny at the end. i think there mtett tee.— funny at the end. i think there mtett be, .— funny at the end. i think there might be, i hope,— funny at the end. i think there might be, i hope, a sense of teete— might be, i hope, a sense of peeee emene— might be, i hope, a sense of peace among these dear people treet— peace among these dear people the ee— peace among these dear people that are trapped— peace among these dear people that are trapped in there. ateetwtetw— that are trapped in there. absolutely _ that are trapped in there. absolutely both of you, thank

you for your time. thank you for coming on. i think you are both fascinating people for a variety of different reasons. and i hope that we can have a conversation again in the coming days. and we're celebrating a successful rescue and maybe we can have a bit more a light—hearted bit more of a light—hearted conversation about all of this. thatis conversation about all of this. that is absolutely wonderful. couple there . mike reese, who is couple there. mike reese, who is the writer , one of the writers the writer, one of the writers of the simpsons, he went on the titanic , the titan, titanic submersible, the titan, and actually went down and saw the and, course, the titanic. and, of course, mike's wife , denise, mike's wonderful wife, denise, as had due to as well, who had been due to make that trip but couldn't make it testing for it after testing positive for covid. , thank you covid. both of you, thank you very take wow well, very much. take care. wow well, so it's interesting to learn, isn't it? i think, though, isn't it, that that the idea of communication not communication issues are not new? let's be honest, it new? so let's be honest, it might have been a little while before anybody on board an ocean gate there was gate realised that there was anything desperately anything seriously, desperately wrong blue. but wrong or out of the blue. but also of those people also that both of those people would to trip would be willing to do that trip again. and interesting, i know a lot of you have been getting in touch quickly, touch on this just quickly, which people knowing

which is that people knowing the risks in, i think a lot of risks going in, i think a lot of this talk about whether or not this talk about whether or not this is a little kind of rickety ship and it corners ship and whether it not corners were were taken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, were taken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i were taken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i do were taken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i do thinkare taken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i do think thataken. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i do think that iten. ship and whether it not corners wereknow, i do think that it is you know, i do think that it is pretty that people pretty clear that people knew risk acas that they were getting involved with and actively wanted to be, you know , wanted to be, you know, desperately to explore desperately trying to explore new elements of the world, even at the ocean bare. but there we go. more this story on go. loads more on this story on our .com. the our website gb news .com. the fastest national news fastest growing national news website the country. loads website in the country. loads of analysis, big opinion and big breaking yes, breaking news. but yes, inflation unchanged inflation remained unchanged last means that yet last month. it means that yet another rise in interest rates looks inevitable. can we get looks inevitable. how can we get out of this financial mess ? i'm out of this financial mess? i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's news

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him, our chancellor, jeremy hunt, and prime minister rishi sunaks plans to halve inflation by the end of the year. well, here to break down, what it means for you is liam halligan with on the money when the office for national statistics released the latest figures on price pressures, there was an inflation shock . let's have inflation shock. let's have a look inflation shock. let's have a teet et— inflation shock. let's have a look at those— tiff" t let's have a look at those numbers tit" t let's have a look at those numbers . back in look at those numbers. back in amt.— look at those numbers. back in april, inflation— look at those numbers. back in april, inflation was 8.7. that emee— april, inflation was 8.7. that means prices in— april, inflation was 8.7. that means prices in general were ewe— means prices in general were we meter— means prices in general were 8.7% higher than— means prices in general were 8.7% higher than in april 2022. merw— 8.7% higher than in april 2022. many economists— 8.7% higher than in april 2022. many economists expected tmtettem— many economists expected inflation to _ many economists expected inflation to keep coming down, eet— inflation to keep coming down, emt wet— inflation to keep coming down, emt wet tte— inflation to keep coming down, and yet it's stubbornly remained the and yet it's stubbornly remained ttee eeme— and yet it's stubbornly remained ttee wew— and yet it's stubbornly remained the same. may 20th, 23 inflation etttt— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation etttt em— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation etttt ew- met— the same. may 20th, 23 inflation still 8.7. that means britain is now an outlier— still 8.7. that means britain is now an outlier across the weetem— now an outlier across the western world,- now an outlier across the western world, our inflation is the western world, our inflation is ttee meteet— western world, our inflation is ttee memeet m— western world, our inflation is the highest in the g7 group of etwemeet— the highest in the g7 group of advanced industrialised countries. _ advanced industrialised countries. there we are 8.7. in may— countries. there we are 8.7. in we re— countries. there we are 8.7. in me m tte— countries. there we are 8.7. in may in the euro— countries. there we are 8.7. in may in the euro zone across the cmemet— may in the euro zone across the channel there, _ may in the euro zone across the channel there, that— may in the euro zone across the channel there, that 20 nation ewmemew ttee— channel there, that 20 nation currency bloc inflation is averaging— currency bloc inflation is averaging just- currency bloc inflation is averaging just 6.1. and in the us averaging just 6.1. and in the us tte—

averaging just 6.1. and in the us we r. — averaging just 6.1. and in the us it's 4. though— averaging just 6.1. and in the us it's 4. though in the us in perttewter— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and the— us it's 4. though in the us in particular and the eurozone , particular and the eurozone, emerew— particular and the eurozone, emerew emee— particular and the eurozone, energy prices are much cheaper ttee— energy prices are much cheaper tmem mew— energy prices are much cheaper them they ee— energy prices are much cheaper than they are here— energy prices are much cheaper than they are here in britain. whet-e— than they are here in britain. what's causing— than they are here in britain. what's causing this high tmtettem— what's causing this high inflation in— what's causing this high inflation in the uk ? it's partly inflation in the uk? it's partly teet— inflation in the uk? it's partly feet emee— inflation in the uk? it's partly food price inflation, as eeorye— food price inflation, as everyone knows who goes to do metr— everyone knows who goes to do them emeeemg— everyone knows who goes to do their shopping in— everyone knows who goes to do their shopping in their supermarket . grocery prices are supermarket. grocery prices are etttt— supermarket. grocery prices are etttt ety— supermarket. grocery prices are etttt etw high— supermarket. grocery prices are still sky high and— supermarket. grocery prices are still sky high and they're meme.— still sky high and they're meme. m— still sky high and they're rising. in april 2023, we had retre— rising. in april 2023, we had 19.i% inflation— rising. in april 2023, we had 19.i% inflation in— rising. in april 2023, we had 19.i% inflation in again , food 19.i% inflation in again, food emee— 19.i% inflation in again, food erteee m— 19.i% inflation in again, food prices in general, 19.i% higher ttee— prices in general, 19.i% higher tmem tte— prices in general, 19.i% higher than the same— prices in general, 19.i% higher than the same month in 2022. and in than the same month in 2022. and m wew— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation in— than the same month in 2022. and in may, inflation in food prices came down only— in may, inflation in food prices came down only slightly, 18.3. stttt— came down only slightly, 18.3. stttt ety— came down only slightly, 18.3. stttt etw high-— came down only slightly, 18.3. still, sky high. and on top of met.— still, sky high. and on top of that, there's— still, sky high. and on top of that, there's a— still, sky high. and on top of that, there's a technical measure that- that, there's a technical measure that economists look at, metwtme— measure that economists look at, including economists at the bank of including economists at the bank ef metere— including economists at the bank of england, core— including economists at the bank of england, core inflation. this emee— of england, core inflation. this etrtee eet— of england, core inflation. this strips out volatile— of england, core inflation. this strips out volatile items , food, strips out volatile items, food, emerew — strips out volatile items, food, energyr emer— strips out volatile items, food, energy, other things that are tmeertet— energy, other things that are tmeertet te— energy, other things that are tmeertet te tw— energy, other things that are imported to try and understand whet-e— imported to try and understand what's happening domestically. wete— what's happening domestically. weee ereeewee— what's happening domestically. wage pressures ,— what's happening domestically. wage pressures , supply chain wage pressures, supply chain eeme— wage pressures, supply chain issues being experienced by ertttet— issues being experienced by british firms— issues being experienced by british firms or— issues being experienced by british firms or underlying mftettem— british firms or underlying inflation or— british firms or underlying inflation or core inflation. tte— inflation or core inflation. we met— inflation or core inflation. we met entw— inflation or core inflation. it's not only not coming down or

etewme— it's not only not coming down or etewme tte— it's not only not coming down or staying the same,— it's not only not coming down or staying the same, it's actually going— staying the same, it's actually going up— staying the same, it's actually going up eee.— staying the same, it's actually going up 6-2% in_ staying the same, it's actually going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in aertt— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in aertt eet— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in aertt emt twe— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in april, and 7.1% in— going up 6.2% in march, 6.8% in april, and 7.1% in may. and met-e— april, and 7.1% in may. and that's what's— april, and 7.1% in may. and that's what's really worrying the that's what's really worrying ttee temt— that's what's really worrying ttee eeet ef— that's what's really worrying the bank of england as they eemtemetete— the bank of england as they contemplate what's going to happen— contemplate what's going to meeeem te— contemplate what's going to happen to interest rates. mew-re— happen to interest rates. they're making that crucial teetetem — they're making that crucial decision tomorrow. it will be announced at— decision tomorrow. it will be announced at noon . we've seen announced at noon. we've seen trem— announced at noon. we've seen frem zom— announced at noon. we've seen frem zow ett— announced at noon. we've seen from 2017 all the— announced at noon. we've seen from 2017 all the way through to the from 2017 all the way through to ttee eet— from 2017 all the way through to ttee emt ef— from 2017 all the way through to the end of 2021. _ from 2017 all the way through to the end of 2021. interest rates wttre— the end of 2021. interest rates were ultra low.— the end of 2021. interest rates were ultra low. lots of households- were ultra low. lots of households locked in five year, three— households locked in five year, three year— households locked in five year, three year, two— households locked in five year, three year, two year mortgage teete— three year, two year mortgage teete. tteee— three year, two year mortgage deals. those mortgage deals are wmwmtme— deals. those mortgage deals are now unwinding as— deals. those mortgage deals are now unwinding as interest rates fewe— now unwinding as interest rates mewe meem— now unwinding as interest rates have risen since— now unwinding as interest rates have risen since late 2021. all free— have risen since late 2021. all ttee wew— have risen since late 2021. all ttee we we— have risen since late 2021. all ttee we we te— have risen since late 2021. all the way up to 4.5. _ have risen since late 2021. all the way up to 4.5. well, tomorrow we _ the way up to 4.5. well, tomorrow we could see a rise to teste— tomorrow we could see a rise to were tw— tomorrow we could see a rise to were by free— tomorrow we could see a rise to 4.75% by the bank— tomorrow we could see a rise to 4.75% by the bank of england or mteet— 4.75% by the bank of england or tmteet e— 4.75% by the bank of england or tmteet e tte— 4.75% by the bank of england or indeed a big hefty— 4.75% by the bank of england or indeed a big hefty half a eereemteee— indeed a big hefty half a percentage point rise all the way— percentage point rise all the way up— percentage point rise all the we we te— percentage point rise all the we we te 5%_ percentage point rise all the we we te ewe ee— percentage point rise all the way up to 5% as the bank tries to way up to 5% as the bank tries te eteme— way up to 5% as the bank tries te eteme tewm— way up to 5% as the bank tries to clamp down on— way up to 5% as the bank tries to clamp down on inflation. mte— to clamp down on inflation. mte ef— to clamp down on inflation. this, of course— to clamp down on inflation. this, of course ,— to clamp down on inflation. this, of course , does have knock this, of course, does have knock on this, of course, does have knock em effecte— this, of course, does have knock em effeete fer— this, of course, does have knock on effects for mortgages as as tree— on effects for mortgages as as tteee t—e— on effects for mortgages as as those 5—3 and— on effects for mortgages as as those 5—3 and two— on effects for mortgages as as those 5—3 and two year deals expire- — those 5—3 and two year deals expire- wetteege— those 5—3 and two year deals expire. mortgage rates are set to expire. mortgage rates are set te rtee— expire. mortgage rates are set to rise further— expire. mortgage rates are set to rise further .— expire. mortgage rates are set to rise further . they're up to rise further. they're up etewe— to rise further. they're up etewe ete— to rise further. they're up

above 6% on— to rise further. they're up above 6% on average, in some ,— above 6% on average, in some , er 8.— above 6% on average, in some cases 7 or 8. but— above 6% on average, in some cases 7 or 8. but it's good news for savers. higher— cases 7 or 8. but it's good news for savers. higher interest retee— for savers. higher interest rates mean as— for savers. higher interest rates mean as long as the banks eet— rates mean as long as the banks emt twtttme— rates mean as long as the banks and building societies do pass, tteee— and building societies do pass, tteee rete— and building societies do pass, those rate rises— and building societies do pass, those rate rises on, you will get— those rate rises on, you will get e— those rate rises on, you will get e mt— those rate rises on, you will get a bit more— those rate rises on, you will get a bit more bang for your feet. — get a bit more bang for your feet. se— get a bit more bang for your buck. so there— get a bit more bang for your buck. so there we have it. erttem— buck. so there we have it. erttem te— buck. so there we have it. britain is now— buck. so there we have it. britain is now the inflation mettem— britain is now the inflation mettem .— britain is now the inflation nation . price— britain is now the inflation nation . price pressures are nation. price pressures are eeretetme— nation. price pressures are eeretetme .— nation. price pressures are persisting . this is the story persisting. this is the story met-e— persisting. this is the story tmet-e going— persisting. this is the story that's going to— persisting. this is the story that's going to dominate eettttee— that's going to dominate politics all— that's going to dominate politics all the way through to the politics all the way through to ttee meet— politics all the way through to the next general— politics all the way through to the next general election . okay, the next general election. okay, mere— the next general election. okay, there we— the next general election. okay, there we 90- — the next general election. okay, there we go. so— the next general election. okay, there we go. : there we go. so does liam now whizzing you through the fact that we are now an inflation nafion that we are now an inflation nation ? loads more to come nation? loads more still to come between and 5:00. so there's between now and 5:00. so there's a warning from one of nato's top officials that our armed forces are too small. do you remember those ridiculous recruitment drives that stopped for the call to prayer during a battle? do you remember that time that the raf said that it didn't want to recruit more white men? yeah recruit any more white men? yeah well, here we go. our armed forces are now far too small. of course we do have the for money a load other things, don't a load of other things, don't we? there's the reaction we? and there's the reaction to that are that claim that christians are seen it comes

seen as aggressive when it comes to issues. they're the to trans issues. they're the bullies, they're bullies, are they? they're the biggest their biggest standing up of their religious beliefs. what about religious beliefs. what about religious against religious persecution against christian people in this a christian people in this a christian country? and in light of the shenanigans that we've seen in parliament recently, a night of the political castration for one of the most popular prime ministers that we've had a period of we've ever had for a period of time, is it time to time, at least is it time to bnng time, at least is it time to bring boris johnson and bring back boris johnson and nigel farage on the same ticket 7 nigel farage on the same ticket ? is it time for something new? would that give the westminster blob a nose? i will be talking with nigel farage very , very with nigel farage very, very shortly and i will be taking you to the central middlesex hospital as well for the latest on the scene after that breaking line that two people have been stabbed. of is in stabbed. one of them is in a life threatening condition. more as headlines now with as we get it. headlines now with paul. as we get it. headlines now with paul . patrick. thank you. so the paul. patrick. thank you. so the teteet— paul. patrick. thank you. so the teteet mewe— paul. patrick. thank you. so the latest news is— paul. patrick. thank you. so the latest news is that— paul. patrick. thank you. so the latest news is that gb- rte: thank you. so the latest news is that gb news understands— latest news is that gb news understands the— latest news is that gb news understands the tapping that's teem— understands the tapping that's been detected— understands the tapping that's been detected in— understands the tapping that's been detected in the search for the submersible _ been detected in the search for the submersible tourist vessel treet— the submersible tourist vessel the wee—

the submersible tourist vessel the em— the submersible tourist vessel that was en route— the submersible tourist vessel that was en route to the titanic emewreet— that was en route to the titanic emewreet m— that was en route to the titanic shipwreck in the— that was en route to the titanic shipwreck in the atlantic was weree— shipwreck in the atlantic was weree eete — shipwreck in the atlantic was morse code for— shipwreck in the atlantic was morse code for sos sources close to morse code for sos sources close te ttee — morse code for sos sources close te ttee reeewe— morse code for sos sources close to the rescue tell— morse code for sos sources close to the rescue tell gb— morse code for sos sources close to the rescue tell gb news the us to the rescue tell gb news the us ceeetewert— to the rescue tell gb news the us coastguard has decided eeemet— us coastguard has decided eeemet ft.— us coastguard has decided against it. funding deep water eetweee— against it. funding deep water salvage equipment brought in on mtttterw— salvage equipment brought in on military transport— salvage equipment brought in on military transport because it's 3 military transport because it's ete— military transport because it's ete e— military transport because it's ete t fewe— military transport because it's 3 to 4 days away.— military transport because it's 3 to 4 days away. the missing weeeet— 3 to 4 days away. the missing weeeet te— 3 to 4 days away. the missing vessel is currently— 3 to 4 days away. the missing vessel is currently 3800m. we tettewe— vessel is currently 3800m. we believe below— vessel is currently 3800m. we believe below sea— vessel is currently 3800m. we believe below sea level and gb wewe— believe below sea level and gb news understands— believe below sea level and gb news understands . last night two news understands. last night two wettetee— news understands. last night two wettetee wee— news understands. last night two vehicles were sent— news understands. last night two vehicles were sent down, but fett— vehicles were sent down, but both imploded— vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at 3000m. five eeeete— both imploded at 3000m. five eeeete ee— both imploded at 3000m. five people are inside— both imploded at 3000m. five people are inside the craft . people are inside the craft. they— people are inside the craft. mew mew— people are inside the craft. mew mew fewe— people are inside the craft. they may have as little as 24 metre— they may have as little as 24 metre ef— they may have as little as 24 hours of oxygen— they may have as little as 24 hours of oxygen left . british hours of oxygen left. british tettetemt — hours of oxygen left. british pakistani businessman shahzada oeweet— pakistani businessman shahzada neweet eme— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman are on dawood and his son sulaiman are em teem— dawood and his son sulaiman are em teert. eteme— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board, along with british billionaire— on board, along with british billionaire explorer hamish wertme— billionaire explorer hamish harding, marine operations eeeetettet— harding, marine operations specialist mike welham told gb wewe— specialist mike welham told gb wewe eertter— specialist mike welham told gb news earlier the— specialist mike welham told gb news earlier the banging noise teete— news earlier the banging noise eewtt te— news earlier the banging noise eewtt be e— news earlier the banging noise could be a positive sign . a could be a positive sign. it's pretty— could be a positive sign. it's pretty good— could be a positive sign. it's pretty good news— could be a positive sign. it's pretty good news that there's there was knocking, been picked up. it's been picked up by transponders—

t. it's been picked up by transponders dropped from etrereft— transponders dropped from aircraft that— transponders dropped from aircraft that can pick up sounds . se— aircraft that can pick up sounds . se wtem— aircraft that can pick up sounds . se wmem mew— aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when they were picked that up . so when they were picked that we tt— . so when they were picked that we tt teete— . so when they were picked that we tt eewtt te— . so when they were picked that up it could be something else banging— up it could be something else banging we— up it could be something else banging we don't— up it could be something else banging we don't know. but it's teeefwt— banging we don't know. but it's meeefwt treet— banging we don't know. but it's hopeful that they— banging we don't know. but it's hopeful that they might still be ettwe— hopeful that they might still be ettwe . — hopeful that they might still be ettwe . bring— hopeful that they might still be alive . bring some— hopeful that they might still be alive . g tiff" hopeful that they might still be alive . g tit" alive. bring some more on that breaking news we brought you in the last hour. a man has been arrested following what's described as a stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west london in the park royal area. two people sustained injuries. one with life threatening injuries. the suspect has been admitted to hospital with severe injuries that are being described as self—inflicted . a spokesperson self—inflicted. a spokesperson for the hospital says the building was temporarily locked down but has since reopened. armed police were deployed to the scene , but the incident is the scene, but the incident is not being treated as terror related . the uk's inflation rate related. the uk's inflation rate stayed the same , despite stayed the same, despite expectations there may be a fall. the office for national statistics released its figures showing it stayed up at 8.7%

until may. the same as april. that comes as the uk. net debt reached £2.6 trillion at the end of may and the average uk house price increased by 3.5% in the 12 months to april . more on all 12 months to april. more on all those stories by heading to our website gb news .com . website gb news .com. let's just go back to website gb news .com. - - let's just go back to our top let's just go back to our top story, which is that the metropolitan - story, which is that the metropolitan has metropolitan police has confirmed _ metropolitan police has confirmed have confirmed that two people have teem— confirmed that two people have been stabbed— confirmed that two people have been stabbed outside central wtttteeex— been stabbed outside central middlesex hospital in northwest teeter.— middlesex hospital in northwest temtem eme— middlesex hospital in northwest london. one of— middlesex hospital in northwest london. one of the victims has me— london. one of the victims has life threatening— london. one of the victims has life threatening injuries . the life threatening injuries. the eweeeet— life threatening injuries. the suspect-been— life threatening injuries. the suspect been detained. he suspect has been detained. he etee— suspect has been detained. he etee mee— suspect has been detained. he also has life— suspect has been detained. he also has life threatening fer-emee— also has life threatening injuries,-are- also has life threatening injuries, are believed to injuries, which are believed to fewe— injuries, which are believed to free teem— injuries, which are believed to have been self—inflicted . they have been self—inflicted. they are have been self—inflicted. they ere-treet— have been self—inflicted. they ere-met tte— have been self—inflicted. they are-that it's not- have been self—inflicted. they are that it's not terror. are saying that it's not terror. tete— are saying that it's not terror. tet-e eet— are saying that it's not terror. tet-e eet tte— are saying that it's not terror. let's get the latest with our temtem— let's get the latest with our london reporter— let's get the latest with our london reporter lisa hartle, who is london reporter lisa hartle, who te ew— london reporter lisa hartle, who is now outside— london reporter lisa hartle, who is now outside central middlesex weeettet — is now outside central middlesex

weeettet .ttee— hospital. and, lisa, i understand- hospital. and, lisa, i understand that you were talking i understand that you were talking . wmteretemt— understand that you were talking i understand that— understand that you were talking i understand that you were tettme— i understand that you were talking somebody was talking to somebody who was an ewewttmeee. — talking to somebody who was an eyewttmeee. _t- eyewitness. is that correct? feet. — eyewitness. is that correct? feet. were— eyewitness. is that correct? yeah. there was- eyewitness. is that correct? yeah. there was a short while ago— yeah. there was a short while eee mere— yeah. there was a short while ago there wee— yeah. there was a short while ago there was a— yeah. there was a short while ago there was a man outside here eett— ago there was a man outside here eett me— ago there was a man outside here eett me me— ago there was a man outside here said his name was— ago there was a man outside here said his name was gareth brown. he sett— said his name was gareth brown. he eett ttet— said his name was gareth brown. he said that he's— said his name was gareth brown. he said that he's been— said his name was gareth brown. he said that he's been working in the hospital the in the hospital cleaning the chimneys. he was stood chimneys. he said he was stood outside when saw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|manz when saw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|man approaching when saw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|man approaching himzn saw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|man approaching him with saw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|man approaching him with a aw chimneys. he said he was stood 0|man approaching him with a big a man approaching him with a big pickaxe . so asked if he pickaxe. so he asked him if he was okay. he said the man replied to him, saying, it's none business. get none of your business. get out the did. the way. which he did. he described the man as being very angry . he went described the man as being very angry. he went into the hospital. he said that's when he did he did . and then he did what he did. and then he said he came out and that's when they were told evacuate they were all told to evacuate and the way. so and get out of the way. so that's that's from a man called gareth brown. and so that's after police received the call at 1:18 that there was the reports of two people having been stabbed here when armed police arrived on the scene , police arrived on the scene, they found that one of the people both sorry was sent to hospital. one of them has life threatening conditions and a man suspected of carrying out these attacks was also taken to

hospital after being arrested. he's also believed to have life threatening injuries. so just to clarify there then,— threatening injuries. so just to clarify there then, lisa,- triaai" g . so just to clarify there then, lisa, what tte— clarify there then, lisa, what the eyewitnesses said to you is treet— the eyewitnesses said to you is the few— the eyewitnesses said to you is the they — the eyewitnesses said to you is that they were in— the eyewitnesses said to you is that they were in the hospital, mew— that they were in the hospital, ttew — that they were in the hospital, they were working, and then a man approached— they were working, and then a man approached them looking very emery— man approached them looking very emery wttm— man approached them looking very emery wttm e— man approached them looking very angry with a pickaxe. is that rtem— angry with a pickaxe. is that rtem f— angry with a pickaxe. is that rtem temt— angry with a pickaxe. is that right ? and then— angry with a pickaxe. is that right ? and then it's understood right? and then it's understood treet— right? and then it's understood the tree— right? and then it's understood that the incident— right? and then it's understood that the incident then maybe meeeemet— that the incident then maybe happened inside the hospital . happened inside the hospital. met-e— happened inside the hospital. ttet-e wtet— happened inside the hospital. that's what the— happened inside the hospital. that's what the man- happened inside the hospital. that's what the man implied. and he implied that he knew the two men that he was chasing. so he also said that that he had something to do with he said it was some kind of contractor not working with the man, but he said he was responsible for his safety. didn't safety. but i didn't quite understand by understand what he meant by that. he was responsible that. he said he was responsible for their safety inside the chimneys and he said he said something about old an old argument or something that the man shouted at him before when he told him to move out of the way. gosh. he told him to move out of the way . gosh. okay all right. well, way. gosh. okay all right. well, ttee— way. gosh. okay all right. well, ttee te— way. gosh. okay all right. well, lisa is obviously— gosh. okay all right. well, lisa is obviously going to be teeet— lisa is obviously going to be based there— lisa is obviously going to be based there at— lisa is obviously going to be based there at central middlesex

weeettet— based there at central middlesex weeettet fer— based there at central middlesex hospital for us— based there at central middlesex hospital for us for— based there at central middlesex hospital for us for the foreseeable- hospital for us for the foreseeable future. hopefully we can foreseeable future. hopefully we eet— foreseeable future. hopefully we eet e— foreseeable future. hopefully we eet e mt— foreseeable future. hopefully we can get a bit more— foreseeable future. hopefully we can get a bit more as well from ef— can get a bit more as well from ef tteee— can get a bit more as well from some of these witnesses. but butt— some of these witnesses. but tut. ttee.— some of these witnesses. but tut. ttee. em— some of these witnesses. but but, lisa, can i— some of these witnesses. but but, lisa, can i just ask what is but, lisa, can i just ask what te tte— but, lisa, can i just ask what te ttee eee— but, lisa, can i just ask what is the scene like— but, lisa, can i just ask what is the scene like now? so the meeettet— is the scene like now? so the teeettet te— is the scene like now? so the hospital is back— is the scene like now? so the hospital is back open? is it? i can see some people behind you. it's can see some people behind you. rte-tert— can see some people behind you. it's-hardlmake- can see some people behind you. it's-hardlmake out- it's quite hard to make out exeetty— it's quite hard to make out exactly what's— it's quite hard to make out exactly what's going on. is the eetem— exactly what's going on. is the evacuation - now - exactly what's going on. is the evacuation-now ?- exactly what's going on. is the evacuation now ? yeah, i evacuation stopped now? yeah, i eeete— evacuation stopped now? yeah, i eeete te— evacuation stopped now? yeah, i eeete te eeme— evacuation stopped now? yeah, i spoke to some people, some eettemte— spoke to some people, some patients coming— spoke to some people, some patients coming out of the teeettet— patients coming out of the hospital and— patients coming out of the hospital and they said they tttm-t— hospital and they said they tttm-t eee— hospital and they said they didn't see or— hospital and they said they didn't see or hear anything eeem— didn't see or hear anything eeert frem — didn't see or hear anything apart from being told just to wett— apart from being told just to wet ee— apart from being told just to wait over that— apart from being told just to wait over that side of the teeettet— wait over that side of the hospital whilst it was all evacuated. _ hospital whilst it was all evacuated. i hospital whilst it was all evacuated. .then hospital evacuated. and then the hospital reopened went back reopened and then they went back inside to their appointments. okay. all right. and the sense treet— okay. all right. and the sense the tree— okay. all right. and the sense that the hospital— okay. all right. and the sense that the hospital now is just twetmeee— that the hospital now is just twemeee ee— that the hospital now is just business as usual, is it i mean, it business as usual, is it i mean, tt teeem-t— business as usual, is it i mean, tt teeem-t eem— business as usual, is it i mean, it doesn't seem to— business as usual, is it i mean, it doesn't seem to be mass panic or it doesn't seem to be mass panic er emytmme— it doesn't seem to be mass panic er emytmme twe— it doesn't seem to be mass panic or anything like there's still tetee— or anything like there's still eettee hanging— or anything like there's still police hanging much. police hanging around much. i mean , as you can— police hanging around much. i mean , as you can see, there's mean, as you can see, there's memy— mean, as you can see, there's memy memetre— mean, as you can see, there's many members of— mean, as you can see, there's many members of the media behind me for just step out. you've etttt— me for just step out. you've still patients and still got patients going in and out. obviously the end out. but obviously it's the end of really . there's of the day really. so there's not many there's a few staff not so many there's a few staff members standing outside. but yeah, now. the yeah, it's all reopened now. the police they're police say that they're continuing their presence here whilst carry out

whilst they carry out their investigation, say investigation, which they say they do believe is terror they do not believe is terror related. okay, they do not believe is terror related . okay, lisa, thank you related. okay, lisa, thank you very.— related. okay, lisa, thank you very. very— related. okay, lisa, thank you very. very meem— related. okay, lisa, thank you very, very much. i'll- : okay, lisa, thank you very, very much. i'll go to you eeem— very, very much. i'll go to you eeetm-enemy.— very, very much. i'll go to you again-shortly. i- very, very much. i'll go to you again shortly. i imagine as again very shortly. i imagine as ttee— again very shortly. i imagine as ttee-there— again very shortly. i imagine as ttee-there te— again very shortly. i imagine as lisa there is outside lisa hartle there is outside cemtret— lisa hartle there is outside central middlesex for central middlesex hospital for us. central middlesex hospital for we—ttem- central middlesex hospital for we—ttem .- central middlesex hospital fori we—ttem . ttee us. so just to recap then, lisa mee— us. so just to recap then, lisa tee teem— us. so just to recap then, lisa has been talking— us. so just to recap then, lisa has been talking to somebody who eeye—eye— has been talking to somebody who eeye—eye wttmeeei has been talking to somebody who sa'this_eye witness- has been talking to somebody who sa'this attack. eye witness has been talking to somebody who sa'this attack. theiraye witness has been talking to somebody who sa'this attack. theiraye was ass to this attack. their job was reeeemettte— responsible for cleaning the emmmeye— responsible for cleaning the chimneys _the- responsible for cleaning the chimneys the hospital. chimneys inside the hospital. they— chimneys inside the hospital. trey—tteyl chimneys inside the hospital. . trey—trey they were saying that they saw a mem—wttt- they were saying that they saw a mem—wttt e- they were saying that they saw a. man _with a pickaxe man approach them with a pickaxe .leetet— man approach them with a pickaxe .leetet-mem— man approach them with a pickaxe . asked man whether or . he asked that man whether or not . he asked that man whether or met—memt— . he asked that man whether or not—right, which- . he asked that man whether or not right, which the not he was all right, which the guy— not he was all right, which the guy-eeemet— not he was all right, which the guy seemed angry said, guy who seemed very angry said, it's—business.- guy who seemed very angry said, it's—business. get. it's none of your business. get eet— it's none of your business. get eet ef— it's none of your business. get eet ef-wey. — it's none of your business. get out of-way. that- it's none of your business. get out of way. that chap then out of the way. that chap then got out of the way. that chap then eet-ef— out of the way. that chap then eet-ef ttee — out of the way. that chap then get-ef ttee wey— out of the way. that chap then got of the way and witnessed got out of the way and witnessed wret— got out of the way and witnessed wmet eeeeeret— got out of the way and witnessed what appeared some kind of what appeared to be some kind of e.meee— chase. he said inside the meeettet— chase. he said inside the hospital. important to say hospital. it's important to say the hospital. it's important to say ttee eemee-e— hospital. it's important to say the police's statement appears to the police's statement appears te-te— the police's statement appears to-to-incident- the police's statement appears to to incident taking to allude to the incident taking eteee— to allude to the incident taking place .outside _ to allude to the incident taking place .outside the - to allude to the incident taking place outside the hospital. place just outside the hospital. but place just outside the hospital. eet-ewe — place just outside the hospital. but-sure that— place just outside the hospital. but-sure that will- but i'm sure that will get eteeret— but i'm sure that will get- cleared—people cleared up for us. two people were-injured— cleared up for us. two people were-injured .— cleared up for us. two people were-injured . the- cleared up for us. two people were injured . the line were that injured. the line mere.— were that injured. the line there. ef— were that injured. the line there, of course, is it would eeeeer— there, of course, is it would eeeeer emywey— there, of course, is it would appear anyway, according to appear anyway, that according to this—individual. this eye witness, the individual . tte— this eye witness, the individual .tme eweeeet— this eye witness, the individual , the suspect had— this eye witness, the individual , the suspect had a pickaxe. wewe— , the suspect had a pickaxe. we-we teem— , the suspect had a pickaxe. we've been told— , the suspect had a pickaxe. we've been told so far that it's a we've been told so far that it's e etetttme— we've been told so far that it's e etettme. se— we've been told so far that it's a stabbing. so more detail, eeetm— a stabbing. so more detail, againr eeete— a stabbing. so more detail, again, needs to— a stabbing. so more detail, again, needs to be shared some temt— again, needs to be shared some ttett em— again, needs to be shared some ttemt em wtem— again, needs to be shared some light on when it— again, needs to be shared some light on when it comes to that eme— light on when it comes to that one ef— light on when it comes to that one ef tte— light on when it comes to that one of the injured is in a life ttreetemme— one of the injured is in a life threatening condition. the air emtwtemee— threatening condition. the air ambulance was— threatening condition. the air ambulance was also called armed.

tetee— ambulance was also called armed. tettee-eettet. — ambulance was also called armed. police-called. the— ambulance was also called armed. police called. the other police were called. the other eereem— police were called. the other person i believed - police were called. the other person believed in person is believed to be in a mem—ttfe— person is believed to be in a non—life threatening condition person is believed to be in a non-thee threatening condition person is believed to be in a non-the attacker�*iing condition person is believed to be in a non-the attacker themselves,n and the attacker themselves, eeeertme— and the attacker themselves, according . police - and the attacker themselves, according police , has according to police, has self—inflicted- according to police, has self—inflicted wounds and are is eerry— self—inflicted wounds and are is eerry m— self—inflicted wounds and are is eerry m e— self—inflicted wounds and are is eerry m e ttfe— self—inflicted wounds and are is sorry in a life threatening eemttttem— sorry in a life threatening eemttttem .— sorry in a life threatening condition . as— sorry in a life threatening condition . as we get more on condition. as we get more on tte— condition. as we get more on tree frem — condition. as we get more on this from outside _ condition. as we get more on this from outside the hospital, i this from outside the hospital, . wttt— this from outside the hospital, . wttt 90— this from outside the hospital, rwttt ge teet— this from outside the hospital, i will go back to— this from outside the hospital, i will go back to lisa . that was i will go back to lisa. that was ttee— i will go back to lisa. that was ttee wertte— i will go back to lisa. that was lisa hartle there— i will go back to lisa. that was lisa hartle there outside cemtret— lisa hartle there outside central middlesex hospital . but central middlesex hospital. but te— central middlesex hospital. but te e— central middlesex hospital. but now to a stark— central middlesex hospital. but now to a stark warning from one of now to a stark warning from one ef wewe-e— now to a stark warning from one of nato's most— now to a stark warning from one of nato's most senior officials, eemeret— of nato's most senior officials, eemeret str— of nato's most senior officials, general sir tim— of nato's most senior officials, general sir tim radford says treet— general sir tim radford says that britain— general sir tim radford says that britain is— general sir tim radford says that britain is only just mettme— that britain is only just mettmg em— that britain is only just holding on to its influence in tree— holding on to its influence in the organisation— holding on to its influence in the organisation because our ermy— the organisation because our ermy te— the organisation because our ermy te ew— the organisation because our ermy te tee— the organisation because our army is now too small . i think army is now too small. i think tte— army is now too small. i think it's fantastic— army is now too small. i think it's fantastic isn't— army is now too small. i think it's fantastic isn't it, that we tte— it's fantastic isn't it, that we ttt ett— it's fantastic isn't it, that we did all these— it's fantastic isn't it, that we did all these diverse recruitment- did all these diverse recruitment drives that worked a treet— recruitment drives that worked a treet .— recruitment drives that worked a treet . tttm-t— recruitment drives that worked a treat , didn't defence treat, didn't it? defence seeretery— treat, didn't it? defence secretary wallace said last secretary ben wallace said last yeer— secretary ben wallace said last yeer treet— secretary ben wallace said last yeer the tree— secretary ben wallace said last year that the uk— secretary ben wallace said last year that the uk needed bigger year that the uk needed a bigger ermy.— year that the uk needed a bigger ermy. at— year that the uk needed a bigger ermy. at tte— year that the uk needed a bigger army. at the moment we only have femo— army. at the moment we only have feeoo treeee— army. at the moment we only have 76,000 troops. that— army. at the moment we only have 76,000 troops. that-a- army. at the moment we only have 76,000 troops. that a fall of 76,000 troops. that is a fall of ztooo. — 76,000 troops. that is a fall of ztooo. m— 76,000 troops. that is a fall of ztooo. m tte— 76,000 troops. that is a fall of 21,000. in the last— 76,000 troops. that is a fall of 21,000. in the last ten years. joining— 21,000. in the last ten years. joining me— 21,000. in the last ten years. joining me ew— 21,000. in the last ten years. joining me now is- 21,000. in the last ten years. joining me now is the former teet— joining me now is the former meet ef— joining me now is the former head of counter—terrorism. it's weter— head of counter—terrorism. it's teeter eemeret— head of counter—terrorism. it's major general chip chapman. chm.— major general chip chapman. chipr whet-e— major general chip chapman. chip, what's going on? is the army— chip, what's going on? is the army met— chip, what's going on? is the army met em— chip, what's going on? is the army not an attractive place for eeette— army not an attractive place for eeeete te— army not an attractive place for eeeete te wew—

army not an attractive place for people to work or— army not an attractive place for people to work or are we making ettty— people to work or are we making ettty eete— people to work or are we making ettty eete f— people to work or are we making silly cuts ? well,— people to work or are we making silly cuts ? well, both of those silly cuts? well, both of those are silly cuts? well, both of those tree — silly cuts? well, both of those tree et— silly cuts? well, both of those are true at the— silly cuts? well, both of those are true at the same time. teetty. — are true at the same time. teetty. et— are true at the same time. teetty. et tte— are true at the same time. really, at the moment.- are true at the same time. really, at the moment. patrick so firstly, this week we had a report by a chap called haythornthwaite about the review of armed forces incentivisation that showed force deficits across the piece where from october 21st to september 22nd there was a 30% reduction in those coming forward to join the regular forces, with 17% increase in outflow, resulting increase in outflow, resulting in a reduction of 4250 regular personnel. so you have a problem at personnel. so you have a problem et tte— personnel. so you have a problem et ttee fremt— personnel. so you have a problem at the front end— personnel. so you have a problem at the front end with— " so you have a problem at the front end with recruiting eet— at the front end with recruiting and retention— at the front end with recruiting and retention .— at the front end with recruiting and retention . an— at the front end with recruiting and retention . an at the same and retention. an at the same ttme— and retention. an at the same ttme. yew— and retention. an at the same ttme. yew fewe— and retention. an at the same time, you have a— and retention. an at the same time, you have a defence command paper— time, you have a defence command eeeer eeett— time, you have a defence command eeeer etewt te— time, you have a defence command paper about to come— time, you have a defence command paper about to come out. it's going— paper about to come out. it's going te— paper about to come out. it's going te te— paper about to come out. it's going to be delayed because of the going to be delayed because of ttee vttmtwe— going to be delayed because of the vilnius meeting in nato , the vilnius meeting in nato, wmtet— the vilnius meeting in nato, wttet te— the vilnius meeting in nato, wmem te going— the vilnius meeting in nato, which is going to at least cut us which is going to at least cut we te— which is going to at least cut we te moo.— which is going to at least cut us to 72,500. and— which is going to at least cut us to 72,500. and last month mere— us to 72,500. and last month there wee— us to 72,500. and last month there e— us to 72,500. and last month there was a sort— us to 72,500. and last month there was a sort of straw man, a eeeer— there was a sort of straw man, a eeeer te— there was a sort of straw man, a eeeer te eert— there was a sort of straw man, a eeeer te eert ef— there was a sort of straw man, a paper to sort of flag things up to paper to sort of flag things up te eee— paper to sort of flag things up te wtet— paper to sort of flag things up to see what people made of it treet— to see what people made of it the mete— to see what people made of it that made the— to see what people made of it that made the notion that we wewtt— that made the notion that we wewtt te— that made the notion that we wewtt be going— that made the notion that we would be going to down 60,000.

now:— would be going to down 60,000. now, sometimes— would be going to down 60,000. now, sometimes they— would be going to down 60,000. now, sometimes they do- would be going to down 60,000. now, sometimes they do that. so if end up with 64 or 68, if we end up with 64 or 68, people say it wasn't as bad as it could be. but it's looking pretty— it could be. but it's looking pretty-em— it could be. but it's looking pretty-on both- a t: but it's looking pretty on both inflow pretty stark on both inflow ewtftew— pretty stark on both inflow outflow-total- pretty stark on both inflow outflow total numbers that outflow and total numbers that wttt— outflow and total numbers that wttt te— outflow and total numbers that wttt be going— outflow and total numbers that will be going to— outflow and total numbers that will be going to for the future for will be going to for the future fer tte— will be going to for the future fer ttee army. — will be going to for the future for the army. but— will be going to for the future for the army. but it's worth eeyme— for the army. but it's worth eeymo met— for the army. but it's worth saying that the— for the army. but it's worth saying that the raf and the navy are saying that the raf and the navy ere—wtetl are far more important in vital mtereet— are far more important in vital tmtereet fer— are far more important in vital interest for the— are far more important in vital interest for the uk than the army— interest for the uk than the army . — interest for the uk than the army . otey. — interest for the uk than the army . otey. .— interest for the uk than the army . interest for the uk than the army. interest for the uk than the- army . okay. i think what is also army. okay. i think what is also important to note is that our military can't go on strike in the way that it hospital consultants who are on probably around five times their salary can if they choose to go on strike and therefore they have very little leverage when it comes and comes to things like pay and conditions . i mean, mind conditions. i mean, the mind boggles really , doesn't it? boggles really, doesn't it? we've have these we've seen to have had these bizarre drives that bizarre recruitment drives that are targeting as much diversity as , even serious talk as possible, even serious talk about the raf , deliberately not about the raf, deliberately not pro processing and passing through people because they didn't have enough diverse recruits . and then now we end up recruits. and then now we end up in a situation where army in a situation where the army feels underpaid and undervalued , struggling to get people on

board. and it's being cut. i mean, the first job of any government is to protect its citizens, and we're citizens, isn't it? and we're just military just depleting our own military . yeah, that's true. and i think were— . yeah, that's true. and i think there ee— . yeah, that's true. and i think there twe— yeah, that's true. and i think there are two points relevant to ttet. — there are two points relevant to met. me— there are two points relevant to that. the first— there are two points relevant to that. the first one— there are two points relevant to that. the first one is- there are two points relevant to that. �*" that. the first one is that we've become more willing to sign we call sign up for what we call military to the civil military aid to the civil authority tasks . that is, authority tasks. that is, you know, stepping all those know, stepping in for all those who are on strike, be it the border ambulance border force or ambulance workers and of course, workers and often, of course, the stepping in the people who are stepping in to paid less. the to do that are paid less. the second thing, course, is that second thing, of course, is that we do have to look at what the armed review bodies armed forces pay review bodies come they the come outwith. they set the parameters for what will be the award subsequent years. but award in subsequent years. but one thing that there's no appetite for a current government or any government to do build back to cold war do is build back to cold war forces. and there is still this nofion forces. and there is still this notion that technology will overcome the form of mass . now, overcome the form of mass. now, i'm pretty sceptical about that. as tim radford's boss, general cavoli, the supreme allied commander europe is when he sort of said the scale of the war in ukraine is out of sync with our recent thinking and experience. so, you know , mass can matter

so, you know, mass can matter precision can be brilliant, but it can beat mass. but you need a lot of it. and that's also very expensive. every time i listen to expensive. every time i listen te tte— expensive. every time i listen te ttee retre— expensive. every time i listen to the radio, there— expensive. every time i listen to the radio, there is- every time i listen to the radio, there is an advert for to the radio, there is an advert fer e— to the radio, there is an advert for a recruitment— to the radio, there is an advert for a recruitment drive for the army— for a recruitment drive for the army-whet— for a recruitment drive for the army _what - says i for a recruitment drive for the army what says is army. and what that says is metmme— army. and what that says is mettme em— army. and what that says is nothing can replace a soldier, metmme— nothing can replace a soldier, mettme em— nothing can replace a soldier, nothing can do— nothing can replace a soldier, nothing can do what a soldier te— nothing can do what a soldier te .— nothing can do what a soldier te . se— nothing can do what a soldier te . se ff— nothing can do what a soldier can do . so if they have got this can do. so if they have got this tettef— can do. so if they have got this belief behind— can do. so if they have got this belief behind the— can do. so if they have got this belief behind the scenes that, oh, belief behind the scenes that, em wett— belief behind the scenes that, em wett tte— belief behind the scenes that, oh, well, it's all— belief behind the scenes that, oh, well, it's all right, ai and teetmeteoy— oh, well, it's all right, ai and technology will— oh, well, it's all right, ai and technology will step in, that is eetwetty— technology will step in, that is eetwetty ttee — technology will step in, that is actually the opposite of what metr— actually the opposite of what their recruitment is their recruitment drive is tettme— their recruitment drive is telling-which. their recruitment drive is telling which is that telling people, which is that my— telling people, which is that emty-temee- telling people, which is that only-beings can- telling people, which is that only beings can do it. but only human beings can do it. but the only human beings can do it. but ttee-treet— only human beings can do it. but the-that they're- only human beings can do it. but the-that they're not- the reality is that they're not reetty— the reality is that they're not reetty effer— the reality is that they're not really after that— the reality is that they're not really after that many human eemee. — really after that many human eemee. m— really after that many human beings. in fact,— really after that many human beings. in fact, they want fewer of beings. in fact, they want fewer ef-ttey-re— beings. in fact, they want fewer ef-ttey-re met— beings. in fact, they want fewer of they're not going to of them. they're not going to pay— of them. they're not going to fey-wett- of them. they're not going to fey-wett er- of them. they're not going to pay-well or treat. of them. they're not going to- pay-well or treat them pay them that well or treat them treet— pay them that well or treat them the wett — pay them that well or treat them the wett -ee— pay them that well or treat them that well. _as a- pay them that well or treat them that well. as a result, that well. and we, as a result, ere-etmeme— that well. and we, as a result, are-clinging on- that well. and we, as a result, are clinging on nato are just clinging on to nato relevance acas— are just clinging on to nato relevance acas at the time that the relevance acas at the time that ttee wertt — relevance acas at the time that ttee wertt te— relevance acas at the time that the world is at— relevance acas at the time that the world is at its— relevance acas at the time that the world is at its most freebrough_ the world is at its most freebrough yeah, i think you etweye— freebrough yeah, i think you etweye fewe— freebrough yeah, i think you always have to _ freebrough yeah, i think you always have to be careful of any eroemteettem— always have to be careful of any organisation that— always have to be careful of any organisation that says that eeette— organisation that says that eeeete me— organisation that says that people come first when they temt— people come first when they tem-t eert— people come first when they tem-t eert ef— people come first when they don't sort of either reward them ereeerty— don't sort of either reward them ereeerty er— don't sort of either reward them ereeerty er treet— don't sort of either reward them properly or treat them well. ewt— properly or treat them well. but ef— properly or treat them well. but of course— properly or treat them well. but of course you— properly or treat them well. but of course you need- properly or treat them well. but of course you need a sort of mary marriott between technology

and people. you need technology who can operate people. that is where artificial intelligence and strategic autonomy to launch weapons were light years away from . that's just not going from that. that's just not going to happen. but you need smart operators for the high technological things. but at the end of the day, war is still a affair and the nature of war hasn't changed. you need people who can go on the ground and hold if hold ground and take ground if you it. that's what an army you need it. that's what an army is for. it's also relevant is for. but it's also relevant probably the nato probably for the nato forthcoming vilnius that forthcoming vilnius thing that that may alter where we fight because where you fight sort of helps to posit where you're equipment might be. so it might be that we're given a new role, which to go to the high north which is to go to the high north and of arctic and and the sort of arctic and norway, that will be the norway, and that will be the expertise for forces expertise for british forces alongside the and the and the royal navy's protecting both the airspace of nato and the north atlantic. major—general thank you very much. major—general chip— you very much. major—general cme cmeemem— you very much. major—general chip chapman there,- trig rt. major—general chip chapman there, the rt. major—general chip chapman there, the former meet— chip chapman there, the former meet ef— chip chapman there, the former head of terrorism,— chip chapman there, the former head of terrorism, reacting to tree— head of terrorism, reacting to ttee feet— head of terrorism, reacting to the fact that— head of terrorism, reacting to the fact that our— head of terrorism, reacting to the fact that our army has metere— the fact that our army has chakora too—

the fact that our army has chakora too small. well, it's a eeeme— chakora too small. well, it's a shame because— chakora too small. well, it's a shame because we've been cutting ewey— shame because we've been cutting ewey-e— shame because we've been cutting ewey-e-teme- away at it for a very long ferret— away at it for a very long ferret-we- away at it for a very long period we treat period of time. we treat people in period of time. we treat people m—fereee— period of time. we treat peoplei in _forces-worse in our armed forces much worse mem—eeettel than we actually treat people we— than we actually treat people we ee— than we actually treat people who are .there _ than we actually treat people who are-there in- than we actually treat people who are there in force on who are out there in force on etrtte—emti strike, like train drivers and meter— strike, like train drivers and twmter-emt- strike, like train drivers and junior-and all- strike, like train drivers and junior and all of this junior doctors and all of this etwff. — junior doctors and all of this stuff. they're,— junior doctors and all of this stuff. they're, of— junior doctors and all of this stuff. they're, of course, not ettewet— stuff. they're, of course, not allowed - people - stuff. they're, of course, not. allowed - people . our allowed to strike people in our ermet— allowed to strike people in our armed forces— allowed to strike people in our armed forces and— allowed to strike people in our armed forces and then on top of met.— armed forces and then on top of feet. when— armed forces and then on top of that, when they— armed forces and then on top of that, when they come the that, when they come out of the ermet—ttey- that, when they come out of the. armed _they-have armed forces and they might have armed forces and they might have e memtet— armed forces and they might have a mental health— armed forces and they might have a mental health issue or eemetmme— a mental health issue or- something—treat something like that, we treat them — something like that, we treat tmem _se- something like that, we treat mem—se tt-el them like dirt again. so it's met— them like dirt again. so it's met-effect.- them like dirt again. so it's not-shock, is- them like dirt again. so it'si not-shock, is.but not really a shock, is it? but mere—te- there we go anyway. is the tyeteet— there we go anyway. is the typical christian towards typical christian stance towards tremeeemter— typical christian stance towards transgender-is— typical christian stance towards transgender-is an- typical christian stance towards transgender is an important aggressive? this is an important teete — aggressive? this is an important topic. christians— aggressive? this is an important topic. christians are being eettet— topic. christians are being called aggressive bigots for tewme— called aggressive bigots for tewme-em— called aggressive bigots for having on transgender ism. having views on transgender ism. wewe— having views on transgender ism. we-we tet— having views on transgender ism. we-we fret e— having views on transgender ism. we-we fret e tet— having views on transgender ism. we've had a lot of— having views on transgender ism. we've had a lot of trans stories in we've had a lot of trans stories m-eewete— we've had a lot of trans stories m-eewetelteye- in the last couple of days, fewer-t— in the last couple of days, haven't-people- in the last couple of days, haven't people identifying haven't we? people identifying as haven't we? people identifying ee—yewl as cats? does that make you treme—ewt- as cats? does that make you. trans-but-about trans mammal? but also about ewtfte— trans mammal? but also about ewette—ewt- trans mammal? but also about ewette—ewt ef- pupils being booted out of eemeete— pupils being booted out of schools-having- pupils being booted out of schools having the view the schools for having the view the controversial— schools for having the view the controversial-there . controversial view that there ere—twel controversial view that there i ere-w—te teem are just two genders? i've been teetme— are just two genders? i've been teetme-tme— are just two genders? i've been looking this. heard looking into this. we heard from ctrtettem— looking into this. we heard from christian concern— looking into this. we heard from christian concern .— looking into this. we heard from christian concern . we're going looking into this. we heard from ch hearn concern . we're going looking into this. we heard from ch hear from cern . we're going looking into this. we heard from ch hear from a rn . we're going looking into this. we heard from ch hear from a member; going looking into this. we heard from ch hear from a member ofoing looking into this. we heard from ch hear from a member of the to hear from a member of the teet— to hear from a member of the teetlttwe— to hear from a member of the lgbt.plus_anl lgbt 0 plus community, an eettwet— lgbt 0 plus community, an activist and— lgbt 0 plus community, an activist and then after that going— activist and then after that going te— activist and then after that we're going to from we're going to hear from a memter— we're going to hear from a- member—community. member of the muslim community. teeewee—tmew- member of the muslim community. because—know is. because what i want to know is why—tte- because what i want to know isi why—the muslims why on earth when the muslims are—same views- why on earth when the muslims are—same views as. are exactly the same views as fundamentalist— are exactly the same views as fundamentalist christians over me— fundamentalist christians over ttte-eertt— fundamentalist christians over this,-earth they- fundamentalist christians over this, earth they are this, why on earth they are teteretet—

this, why on earth they are tolerated and— this, why on earth they are tolerated and christians are demonised?— tolerated and christians are demonised? remarkable, isn't it 7 cent— demonised? remarkable, isn't it ? can't understand— demonised? remarkable, isn't it ? can't understand why that's teteemmo. — ? can't understand why that's happening. patrick christys on gb happening. patrick christys on et _trttem-e— happening. patrick christys on gb britain's news.

every sunday at 6:00 for gloria meets only on gb news, britain's us news . channel are christians us news. channel are christians terme— us news. channel are christians being twtttet— us news. channel are christians being bullied for— us news. channel are christians being bullied for their- are christians being bullied for their views teee— being bullied for their views because the— being bullied for their views because the christian approach to transgender— because the christian approach to transgender issues, the fundamentalist christian ettreeet— fundamentalist christian ettreeet te—

fundamentalist christian approach to transgender issues, is approach to transgender issues, te terme— approach to transgender issues, is being viewed— approach to transgender issues, is being viewed as— approach to transgender issues, is being viewed as aggressive . is being viewed as aggressive. ttet— is being viewed as aggressive. ttet te— is being viewed as aggressive. that is according— is being viewed as aggressive. that is according to— is being viewed as aggressive. that is according to reverend dr. malcolm brown, who's the church of england's director of faith and public life. he was speaking after teaching assistant christie higgs, one an appeal against her sacking after she'd expressed her views on trans books in primary schools. now, reverend brown said in the telegraph, senior contacts in the profession told us of the legal profession told us of a judiciary increase hinckley frustrated with the way that these cases were being argued in these cases were being argued in the with the, quote, the courts with the, quote, aggressive voices beginning to be seen as typically christian. joining me now is peter tatchell, lgbtq activist and director of the peter tatchell foundation . ian, peter, thank foundation. ian, peter, thank you very , very much. do you you very, very much. do you think that fundamentalist traditional evangelical christians who would have a view that you can only be one of two genders are being bullied in this society for their religious beliefs ? i don't think they're beliefs? i don't think they're being bullied. they are entitled to being bullied. they are entitled te ttetr— being bullied. they are entitled te ttetr temt— being bullied. they are entitled to their point of— being bullied. they are entitled to their point of view— g rir: they are entitled to their point of view and i wewtt— to their point of view and i would defend— to their point of view and i would defend their right to

etreee— would defend their right to express their— would defend their right to express their point of view as mwet— express their point of view as mwet ee— express their point of view as mwet ee .— express their point of view as much as i disagree with it in me— much as i disagree with it in ttte — much as i disagree with it in this case. kristie.- much as i disagree with it in this case. ggs this case. kristie. higgs won her appeal . the tribunal ruled her appeal. the tribunal ruled that she had been unlawfully sacked because she was not a abusing or insulting or threatening or harassing lgbt+ people. she was expressing a point of view. she wasn't discriminating. there was no evidence that she would discriminate in the provision of her teaching services at the school. so quite rightly, on those grounds, her appeal was upheld. the fact is, though, ttet— upheld. the fact is, though, ttet ttte— upheld. the fact is, though, that this has— upheld. the fact is, though, that this has had— upheld. the fact is, though, that this has had to- t. : the fact is, though, that this has had to go to eewrt— that this has had to go to eewrt. ttet— that this has had to go to court, that this- that this has had to go to court, that this lady's career mtttetty— court, that this lady's career was initially ruined. et cetera. teter— was initially ruined. et cetera. teter .— was initially ruined. et cetera. teter . ttmt— was initially ruined. et cetera. peter i think this— was initially ruined. et cetera. peter i think this is an issue ttet— peter i think this is an issue ttet te— peter i think this is an issue ttet te going— peter i think this is an issue that is going to— peter i think this is an issue that is going to loom large. and teteet.— that is going to loom large. and teteet. .— that is going to loom large. and teteet. . em— that is going to loom large. and indeed, i am going to be eteetme— indeed, i am going to be eteetmo te— indeed, i am going to be speaking to somebody from the trtttet— speaking to somebody from thei trtttet—tte british muslim community in the meet— next hour. what is going to happe"r_ next hour. what is going to eeetem—tte- next hour. what is going to. happen,_the trans happen, peter, when the trans tetty— happen, peter, when the trans tetty reetty— happen, peter, when the trans lobby really meets british wwettme— lobby really meets british wwettme f— lobby really meets british muslims ? well that will be an muslims? well that will be an reewe— muslims? well that will be an fer— muslims? well that will be an issue for them— muslims? well that will be an issue for them and muslims , but

issue for them and muslims, but it issue for them and muslims, but tt fem-t— issue for them and muslims, but tt fem-t e— issue for them and muslims, but it isn't a muslim— issue for them and muslims, but it isn't a muslim lgbt issue or a it isn't a muslim lgbt issue or e mwettm — it isn't a muslim lgbt issue or a muslim trans— it isn't a muslim lgbt issue or a muslim trans issue . i it isn't a muslim lgbt issue or a muslim trans issue . " a muslim trans issue. this is a tumm— a muslim trans issue. this is a human rights issue . i mean, in human rights issue. i mean, in this particular case, kristie, higgs objected to the lgbt education in schools. now, that is very offensive. it's not a crime, but it is very offensive because there are lgbt+ kids in our schools and it's quite right that their same sex families should be acknowledged along with all other families . so this with all other families. so this isn't about privileging trans people or lgbt people in general. this is just about inclusion . choosing them inclusion. choosing them according to the principle of the equality act. and of course , christians, muslims and jews as they should also be included in recognised because they are part of our society. should should christians- . t should should christians keep their wewe— should christians keep their te— should christians keep their views to themselves on this? do you— views to themselves on this? do yew mmte— views to themselves on this? do yew ttmte we. — views to themselves on this? do you think? no. " you think? no. christian in a free and democratic society , free and democratic society, people of all faiths, including christians , have a right to christians, have a right to express their point of view. and i have on many occasions express their point of view. - and i have on many occasions has tefemtet—

and i have on many occasions has tefemtet ttet— and i have on many occasions has defended that right,— and i have on many occasions has defended that right, even though ttey-we— defended that right, even though ttey-we eete— defended that right, even though they've said things that i've etremoty— they've said things that i've strongly objected to. could i eet— strongly objected to. could i ask-expression? - strongly objected to. could i ask expression? : ask about expression? could i eet— ask about expression? could i eet teter— ask about expression? could i eet peter why.— ask about expression? could i ask peter why, when there is more, more of a divergence, really, i would argue , between really, i would argue, between what the lgbtq+ lobby are pushing for and what we know that the vast majority of the british muslim population believe . kyiv why is it that the believe. kyiv why is it that the trans lobby is not maybe being a bit more forceful there? is it fair ? no . you know, when it fair? no. you know, when it te— fair? no. you know, when it comes to human— ”7’ no. you know, when it comes to human rights, those twmem— comes to human rights, those twmem rtette— comes to human rights, those human rights apply to everyone. ctrtettem— human rights apply to everyone. christian asians,— human rights apply to everyone. christian asians, muslims, lgbt, tteet— christian asians, muslims, lgbt, tteet eet— christian asians, muslims, lgbt, black and asian— christian asians, muslims, lgbt, black and asian people. for ewery— black and asian people. for ewery se— black and asian people. for every one. so there's no exeetttem— every one. so there's no exeetttem .— every one. so there's no exception . ions no ifs, no buts exception. ions no ifs, no buts . amt.— exception. ions no ifs, no buts . amt. yew— exception. ions no ifs, no buts . amt. yew mew.— exception. ions no ifs, no buts . and, you know, i— exception. ions no ifs, no buts . and, you know, i will defend wwettme— . and, you know, i will defend wwettme .— . and, you know, i will defend muslims , christians and other muslims, christians and other eeette— muslims, christians and other eeette ef— muslims, christians and other people of faith— muslims, christians and other people of faith who are being discriminated— people of faith who are being discriminated or— people of faith who are being discriminated or harassed. that is discriminated or harassed. that te eteetwtety— discriminated or harassed. that is absolutely wrong . but i think is absolutely wrong. but i think ttey— is absolutely wrong. but i think ttey etewtt— is absolutely wrong. but i think they should also— is absolutely wrong. but i think they should also acknowledge ttet— they should also acknowledge ttet ff— they should also acknowledge ttet tf ttey— they should also acknowledge that if they want— they should also acknowledge that if they want respect for ttemeetwee— that if they want respect for themselves as— that if they want respect for themselves as people of faith,

ttey— themselves as people of faith, ttey etewtt— themselves as people of faith, they should respect others who teeter— they should respect others who tettem te— they should respect others who tettem te tewe— they should respect others who happen to have a— they should respect others who happen to have a different eexwettty— happen to have a different sexuality or— happen to have a different sexuality or gender identity. tte— sexuality or gender identity. tt-e ett— sexuality or gender identity. it's all about— sexuality or gender identity. it's all about live and let live tewe— it's all about live and let live tewe eet— it's all about live and let live tewe emt tet— it's all about live and let live love and let love.— it's all about live and let live love and let love. look, peter , love and let love. look, peter, ttemt— love and let love. look, peter, ttemt yew. — love and let love. look, peter, ttemt yew. a— love and let love. look, peter, thank you. a bit— love and let love. look, peter, thank you. ' a fr: thank you. a bit short and sweet. we've been squeezed by a couple of pretty major news events, so thank you very much sitting on the but it's sitting on the line, but it's great your views as ever. great to get your views as ever. peter the lgbtq+ peter tatchell the lgbtq+ activist peter tatchell the lgbtq+ activiztatchell foundation. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ a said tatchell foundation. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ asaid intchell foundation. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ asaid in the ll foundation. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ asaid in the nextindation. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ asaid in the next hour,on. like peter tatchell the lgbtq+ asaid in the next hour, ii. like i said in the next hour, i am going to have loads on. i'm going to have loads on. i'm going back live to central middlesex hospital after two people stabbed. i'm also, people were stabbed. i'm also, of going talking of course, going to be talking to only nigel to the one and only nigel farage. is it time that nigel and joined and boris johnson joined together ticket in together on a dream ticket in order to go and try and give the westminster i will westminster blob a nose? i will put directly to him. i'm put that directly to him. i'm going to be to talking a member of muslim community of the british muslim community to find out what they think about that christine is about the fact that christine is apparently seen apparently are being seen as outdated bigots for views outdated bigots for their views when it comes to trans patrick christys on gb news, britain's news channel david mellor.

is5 is 5 pm. is patrick christys. it's gb news and it's going to be a very busy hour. that breaking story, two people stabbed, one in a life threatening condition at a london hospital. the alleged attacker is in a life attacker is also in a life threatening condition . we will threatening condition. we will be that hospital with be outside that hospital with more testimony very more eye witness testimony very shortly. in other news, yes, this case now sos signals a gb

news source says have been received from what is understood to be that submersible somewhere near the wreckage of the titanic . a press conference will be held in the next hour or so. make sure you stay tuned because we will be taking that press conference live. it would appear that at the moment, conference live. it would appear that at the moment , the that at the moment, the indications are that those people are alive. but oxygen of course, is running out. this is going to be a big one as well. i will be joined by nigel farage, who will be answering the question as to whether or not it's to join forces it's time for him to join forces now with johnson and give now with boris johnson and give the westminster blob a nose. people feel let down. maybe this lot could actually help her and stand up for the little people . stand up for the little people. and in other news, we're also going to be talking about this because this is one of the reasons why people want him back, now is back, isn't it? the uk now is supposedly give eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stloadredly give eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stload of ly give eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stload of money give eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stload of money to give eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stload of money to help eu back, isn't it? the uk now is stload of money to help control a load of money to help control our own borders . what on earth our own borders. what on earth is going on here? why can't we get anything right ? and finally

get anything right? and finally as well, i will be talking to a member of the british muslim community issue that i community about an issue that i think only going to get think is only going to get worse. christians are being called bigots and out of touch in order because sorry , because in order because sorry, because they have the view in some senses, fundamentalist christians that there are only two genders. okay but why is the british muslim community he who has the same view not getting anything like the same kind of stick patrick christys on . gb stick patrick christys on. gb news gb views or gb news .com loads coming your way. get those emails coming in and that whole host of top topics. but now as the with polly . the headlines with polly. patrick, thank you. well, the top story patrick, thank you. well, the tet etery ttte— patrick, thank you. well, the top story this hour- patrick, thank you. well, the top story this hour is- rte: well, the top story this hour is that gb wewe— top story this hour is that gb news understands the tapping ttet-e— news understands the tapping ttet-e teem— news understands the tapping that's been detected noted in the attemtte— that's been detected noted in the atlantic in— that's been detected noted in the atlantic in the for search tte— the atlantic in the for search the meme— the atlantic in the for search the missing tourist vessel, tetme— the missing tourist vessel, tetmo te— the missing tourist vessel, hoping to visit— the missing tourist vessel, hoping to visit the titanic is were— hoping to visit the titanic is were eete— hoping to visit the titanic is morse code for— hoping to visit the titanic is morse code for sos. sources

eteee— morse code for sos. sources eteee te— morse code for sos. sources eteee te tte— morse code for sos. sources close to the rescue tell gb wewe. — close to the rescue tell gb wewe. tte— close to the rescue tell gb news. the us— close to the rescue tell gb news. the us coastguard has also teettet— news. the us coastguard has also decided against— news. the us coastguard has also decided against funding deep weter— decided against funding deep water salvage— decided against funding deep water salvage equipment being trewett— water salvage equipment being trewett m— water salvage equipment being trewott m em— water salvage equipment being brought in on military transport teee— brought in on military transport teee tte— brought in on military transport teee tt-e t— brought in on military transport because it's 3 to— brought in on military transport because it's 3 to 4— brought in on military transport because it's 3 to 4 days away. tte— because it's 3 to 4 days away. tte mteetme— because it's 3 to 4 days away. the missing vessel is 3800m tetew— the missing vessel is 3800m tetew tte— the missing vessel is 3800m below the surface of the sea and gb below the surface of the sea and et wewe— below the surface of the sea and gb news understands that last mett— gb news understands that last mtett twe— gb news understands that last night two vehicles were sent tewe.— night two vehicles were sent tewm twt— night two vehicles were sent down, but both— night two vehicles were sent down, but both imploded at 3000m five down, but both imploded at 3000m ftwe ftwe— down, but both imploded at 3000m ftwe ftwe eeette— down, but both imploded at 3000m five five people are— down, but both imploded at 3000m five five people are inside that weft.— five five people are inside that ereft. ttey— five five people are inside that ereft. ttey mey— five five people are inside that craft. they may have as little as craft. they may have as little ee zo— craft. they may have as little ee to tewe— craft. they may have as little as 20 hours oxygen left . british as 20 hours oxygen left. british tettetemt — as 20 hours oxygen left. british pakistani businessman shahzada teweet— pakistani businessman shahzada teweet eme— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman are on dawood and his son sulaiman are em teert— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board alongside— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board alongside the british tttttemetre— on board alongside the british billionaire explorer hamish wertme— billionaire explorer hamish tertme .— billionaire explorer hamish harding . well,— billionaire explorer hamish harding . well, we spoke to harding. well, we spoke to marine operations specialist ttte— marine operations specialist mike welham— marine operations specialist mike welham earlier. he said the teneme— mike welham earlier. he said the temomo metee— mike welham earlier. he said the temomo te— mike welham earlier. he said the banging noise is a— mike welham earlier. he said the banging noise is a positive sign . tte— banging noise is a positive sign . rte pretty— banging noise is a positive sign . it's pretty good— banging noise is a positive sign . it's pretty good news- banging noise is a positive sign . it's pretty good news that there's there was knocking, been picked up. it's been picked up by transponders— picked up. it's been picked up by transponders ,— t: t. it's been picked up by transponders , dropped from by transponders, dropped from etrereft— by transponders, dropped from aircraft that _ by transponders, dropped from aircraft that can— by transponders, dropped from aircraft that can pick up sounds . se— aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when— aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when they—

aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when they were- aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when they were picked that up, it could be something else banging we don't know. but it's hopeful that they might still be alive . a man's been arrested alive. a man's been arrested fettewme— alive. a man's been arrested fettewme e— a man's been arrested following a stabbing incident at centre— following a stabbing incident at central middlesex hospital in weet— central middlesex hospital in weet teeter.— central middlesex hospital in west london. two people ewetemet— west london. two people sustained injuries. one with ttte— sustained injuries. one with life threatening— sustained injuries. one with life threatening injuries . the life threatening injuries. the eweteet-e— life threatening injuries. the suspect's been— life threatening injuries. the suspect's been admitted to teetttet— suspect's been admitted to hospital with— suspect's been admitted to hospital with severe injuries ttet— hospital with severe injuries ttet ee— hospital with severe injuries that are being— hospital with severe injuries that are being described as self—inflicted.— that are being described as self—inflicted. a spokesperson for self—inflicted. a spokesperson fertte— self—inflicted. a spokesperson for the hospital— self—inflicted. a spokesperson for the hospital said says the twtttme— for the hospital said says the building wee— for the hospital said says the building was evacuated but has emee— building was evacuated but has since reopened.— building was evacuated but has since reopened. armed police tetteyet— since reopened. armed police were deployed to— since reopened. armed police were deployed to the scene, but the were deployed to the scene, but tte mettemt— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is not— were deployed to the scene, but the incident is not being treetet— the incident is not being treetet ee— the incident is not being treated as terror related . the treated as terror related. the wwe— treated as terror related. the uk's inflation— treated as terror related. the uk's inflation rate stayed the teettte— uk's inflation rate stayed the same despite expectations there may— same despite expectations there mey te— same despite expectations there mey te e— same despite expectations there mey te e ettett— same despite expectations there may be a slight fall. the office for may be a slight fall. the office fer wettemet— may be a slight fall. the office for national statistics released its for national statistics released tte ftewree— for national statistics released its figures showing inflation eteyet— its figures showing inflation eteyet et— its figures showing inflation stayed at 8.7%— its figures showing inflation stayed at 8.7% up until may. ttet-e— stayed at 8.7% up until may. ttet-e tte— stayed at 8.7% up until may. that's the same— stayed at 8.7% up until may. that's the same rate during april— that's the same rate during atrtt ttet— that's the same rate during april that comes as the uk's net tett— april that comes as the uk's net tett reeetet— april that comes as the uk's net debt reached £2.6— april that comes as the uk's net debt reached £2.6 trillion at

tte— debt reached £2.6 trillion at tte emf— debt reached £2.6 trillion at tte emt ef— debt reached £2.6 trillion at the end of may— debt reached £2.6 trillion at the end of may as well . the end of may as well. meanwhile,— the end of may as well. meanwhile, the average uk house trtee— meanwhile, the average uk house twee mreeeet— meanwhile, the average uk house price increased by— meanwhile, the average uk house price increased by 3.5% in the 12 price increased by 3.5% in the re memte— price increased by 3.5% in the re memtte te— price increased by 3.5% in the 12 months to april and at pmqs ttte— 12 months to april and at pmqs this afternoon,— 12 months to april and at pmqs this afternoon, prime minister ttem— this afternoon, prime minister ttett sweet— this afternoon, prime minister rishi sunak defended the government's— rishi sunak defended the government's plans to tackle mftettem — government's plans to tackle inflation, despite strong ertttetem— inflation, despite strong criticism from some labour. the tetew— criticism from some labour. the labour leader— criticism from some labour. the labour leader accused the government— labour leader accused the government of— labour leader accused the government of supporting the mtwetry-e— government of supporting the industry's that— government of supporting the industry's that are causing mteery— industry's that are causing mteery . — industry's that are causing mteery . we— industry's that are causing misery . \ri.r industry's that are causing- misery. no amount of personal attacks and petty point scoring can disguise the fact that the honourable gentleman does not have a plan for this country , mr have a plan for this country, mr speaken have a plan for this country, mr speaker. he comes here every weet— speaker. he comes here every weet te— speaker. he comes here every weet te mete— speaker. he comes here every week to make the— he comes here every week to make the same petty temte— week to make the same petty temte we— week to make the same petty temte we ee— week to make the same petty points we are getting on and tettwerme— points we are getting on and delivering for— points we are getting on and delivering for this country. vet— delivering for this country. ya.— delivering for this country. ya. wr— delivering for this country. yet, mr speaker,- delivering for this country. “ria ti . . “aria " delivering for this country. yet, mr speaker, inflation is a challenge and that's why we are on track to keep reducing it. we are reducing waiting lists. we are reducing waiting lists. we are stopping the boats all while he is focussed on the path out, focussed on the politics. it's all talk. whereas from this government and from this prime minister, deliver for the minister, we deliver for the country. i'm sure from the wemteee— country. i'm sure from the wemteoe temt— country. i'm sure from the vantage point of- rt.rir. i'm sure from the vantage point of his helicopter, eweryttme— vantage point of his helicopter, everything-look- vantage point of his helicopter, everything look fine. but

everything might look fine. but ttet-e— everything might look fine. but ttet-e met— everything might look fine. but that's not the— everything might look fine. but that's not the lived experience of that's not the lived experience ef tteee— that's not the lived experience ef tteee em— that's not the lived experience of those on the— that's not the lived experience of those on the ground. after 13 yeere— of those on the ground. after 13 yeere ef— of those on the ground. after 13 years of economic— of those on the ground. after 13 years of economic failure across the years of economic failure across tte eewmtry. — years of economic failure across the country, people— years of economic failure across the country, people are paying the country, people are paying tte trtee— the country, people are paying tte trtee ef— the country, people are paying the price of uncosted, reckless eemeee— the price of uncosted, reckless temeee .— the price of uncosted, reckless damage . decisions by the tory damage. decisions by the tory party— damage. decisions by the tory terty .— damage. decisions by the tory terty . amt— damage. decisions by the tory party . and even— damage. decisions by the tory party . and even now, as party. and even now, as mertoeoee— party. and even now, as mertoeoee 90- party. and even now, as mortgages go through the roof, the mortgages go through the roof, tte trtme— mortgages go through the roof, the prime minister is planning to the prime minister is planning te wewe— the prime minister is planning to wave through— the prime minister is planning to wave through honours and teereeee— to wave through honours and teereoee fer— to wave through honours and peerages for those who cause mteery— peerages for those who cause mteery fer— peerages for those who cause misery for millions. peerages for those who cause misery for millions . as retail misery for millions. as retail greete— misery for millions. as retail etemte w— misery for millions. as retail otemte w w. — misery for millions. as retail giants w h. smith- misery for millions. as retail giants w h. fr: giants w h. smith marks and spencer and argos have been named and shamed for failing to pay named and shamed for failing to pay the minimum wage. almost £5 million was found to be owed to around 63,000 workers following investing stations dating back as far as 2017. a named employer . these have been made to pay back what they owed and have been fined around £7 million. high street retailer w h. smith was the worst offender, according to hmrc , with the new according to hmrc, with the new figures claiming it failed to pay figures claiming it failed to pay around £1 million to over 77,500 workers. the retailer

blaming that on an error related to its company uniform policy . to its company uniform policy. now the government has set out a major package of financial support to ukraine to bolster the country's economic stability as it continues to push back against russian forces. the package includes a £20 million boost to ensure companies working in the country. the funding , which includes £2.35 funding, which includes £2.35 billion of world bank loan guarantee , will support the guarantee, will support the restoration of vital public services, including running schools and hospitals. the prime minister says russia must pay for the destruction it's inflicted as a result of the war. that's the latest from gb news. more news as it happens. back now to . back now to. patrick lots on this. our back now to. patrick- . lots on this. our keep lots on this. our keep your eyes for - lots on this. our keep your eyee—fer ttel

eyes and ears peeled for the very— eyes and ears peeled for the wery teteet— eyes and ears peeled for the very latest press— eyes and ears peeled for the very latest press conference as tte— very latest press conference as the situation _ very latest press conference as the situation in— very latest press conference as the situation in near the meme— the situation in near the titanic gets— the situation in near the titanic gets incredibly serious. tte— titanic gets incredibly serious. tte eteet— titanic gets incredibly serious. tte eteet te— titanic gets incredibly serious. the clock is ticking. oxygen is rwmme— the clock is ticking. oxygen is rwmme ewt— the clock is ticking. oxygen is running ewt .— the clock is ticking. oxygen is running out . s—o—s in morse code running out. s—o—s in morse code is running out. s—o—s in morse code te wmtereteet— running out. s—o—s in morse code is understood to— running out. s—o—s in morse code is understood to have— running out. s—o—s in morse code is understood to have been heard trem— is understood to have been heard from somewhere— is understood to have been heard from somewhere near the wreckage of from somewhere near the wreckage ef tte— from somewhere near the wreckage ef tte tttemte — from somewhere near the wreckage of the titanic. there— from somewhere near the wreckage of the titanic. there will be a tree— of the titanic. there will be a press conference— of the titanic. there will be a press conference by the us coast ewert. — press conference by the us coast ewert. we— press conference by the us coast ewert. we wttt— press conference by the us coast guard. we will take— press conference by the us coast guard. we will take that live wtem— guard. we will take that live wtem tt— guard. we will take that live when it starts— guard. we will take that live when it starts .— guard. we will take that live when it starts . i— guard. we will take that live when it starts . i will of course when it starts. i will of course etee— when it starts. i will of course etee te— when it starts. i will of course also be taking— when it starts. i will of course also be taking you to central wtttteeex— also be taking you to central middlesex hospital after two eeette— middlesex hospital after two eeette wee— middlesex hospital after two people were stabbed there, one in people were stabbed there, one mlttfe— people were stabbed there, one inllife threatening— people were stabbed there, one in life threatening condition. in a life threatening condition. it in a life threatening condition. tt—tettewet- in a life threatening condition. it_believed to- in a life threatening condition. it_believed to bei it is not being believed to be treetet— it is not being believed to be treetet ee— it is not being believed to be treetet ee e— it is not being believed to be treated as a terror incident. twee— treated as a terror incident. however there— treated as a terror incident. however there are lots of unanswered questions . however there are lots of unanswered questions. but mere-e— unanswered questions. but there's another— unanswered questions. but there's another big story in tewe— there's another big story in tewm tetey— there's another big story in town todayiand- there's another big story in town today and is town today, and this is what i wemtet— town today, and this is what i wemtet te— town today, and this is what i wemtet te 90— town today, and this is what i wanted to go have a little wanted to go out, have a little bit wanted to go out, have a little ttt ef— wanted to go out, have a little ttt ef e— wanted to go out, have a little ttt ef e rem— wanted to go out, have a little bit of a rant with— wanted to go out, have a little bit of a rant with you at the etert— bit of a rant with you at the etert ef— bit of a rant with you at the start of. show. - bit of a rant with you at the start of - show. i - bit of a rant with you at the start of show. i think it's start of the show. i think it's ttme— start of the show. i think it's ttmeletwe— start of the show. i think it's time i give the _ start of the show. i think it's time give the westminster time to give the westminster establishment— time to give the westminster. establishment—it's establishment snobs a nose. it's ttme— establishment snobs a nose. it's ttme fer— establishment snobs a nose. it's ttme fer tte— establishment snobs a nose. it's time for the boris— establishment snobs a nose. it's time for the boris johnson. wteet— time for the boris johnson. wtoet tereoe— time for the boris johnson. nigel farage dream ticket . the nigel farage dream ticket. the trtttet— nigel farage dream ticket. the british public— nigel farage dream ticket. the british public are— nigel farage dream ticket. the british public are being ignored and british public are being ignored emt .— british public are being ignored emt . fer— british public are being ignored emt . fer ee— british public are being ignored and i for one, am— british public are being ignored and i for one, am sick of it. eeette— and i for one, am sick of it. eeette tewe— and i for one, am sick of it. people have voted big time for terre— people have voted big time for terte te— people have voted big time for terte te eet— people have voted big time for boris to get brexit done to eemtret— boris to get brexit done to control our— boris to get brexit done to control our borders . in 2015, control our borders. in 2015, meerty— control our borders. in 2015, meerty t— control our borders. in 2015, nearly 4 million— control our borders. in 2015, nearly 4 million people voted

for nearly 4 million people voted fer wttt— nearly 4 million people voted fer wttt te— nearly 4 million people voted for ukip to get— nearly 4 million people voted for ukip to get brexit done and to for ukip to get brexit done and te eemtret— for ukip to get brexit done and to control our— for ukip to get brexit done and to control our borders. and look wtet-e— to control our borders. and look what's happened— to control our borders. and look what's happened .— to control our borders. and look what's happened . boris johnson what's happened. boris johnson was what's happened. boris johnson ewetet— what's happened. boris johnson was ousted after— what's happened. boris johnson was ousted after a— what's happened. boris johnson was ousted after a concerted eemtetem— was ousted after a concerted eemtetom frem — was ousted after a concerted campaign from the media and a temeeree— campaign from the media and a temoeree eewrt— campaign from the media and a kangaroo court. we've now got an wmeteetet— kangaroo court. we've now got an unelected prime— kangaroo court. we've now got an unelected prime minister who teeem-t— unelected prime minister who teeem-t tewe— unelected prime minister who doesn't have the— unelected prime minister who doesn't have the political balls to doesn't have the political balls te etee— doesn't have the political balls te etet tte— doesn't have the political balls to stop the boats.— doesn't have the political balls to stop the boats. labour are etemty— to stop the boats. labour are etemty tettme— to stop the boats. labour are openly talking about dragging us teet— openly talking about dragging us teet tewerte— openly talking about dragging us back towards the _ openly talking about dragging us back towards the european union . tte— back towards the european union . the establishment thinks ttey-we— . the establishment thinks ttey-we — . the establishment thinks they've won. they think the etwtte— they've won. they think the etwtte — they've won. they think the adults are back— they've won. they think the adults are back in the room now. we adults are back in the room now. we tewe— adults are back in the room now. we tewe teete— adults are back in the room now. we have loads of— adults are back in the room now. we have loads of disillusioned red we have loads of disillusioned ret wett— we have loads of disillusioned red wall voters,— we have loads of disillusioned red wall voters, millions of disillusioned— red wall voters, millions of disillusioned tories as well, we— disillusioned tories as well, wte twet— disillusioned tories as well, who just can't— disillusioned tories as well, who just can't bring themselves to who just can't bring themselves te wete— who just can't bring themselves te wete fer— who just can't bring themselves to vote for this— who just can't bring themselves to vote for this conservative party— to vote for this conservative tetty emf— to vote for this conservative tetty emt tte— to vote for this conservative party and the likes of harriet werrrme— party and the likes of harriet harman parading around like the ef— harman parading around like the saviour of british— harman parading around like the saviour of british democracy . saviour of british democracy. seer— saviour of british democracy. see. wtet— saviour of british democracy. see. wtet we— saviour of british democracy. see, what we have witnessed is the see, what we have witnessed is tte tetew— see, what we have witnessed is the labour party— see, what we have witnessed is the labour party and soft tories eweeeeefwtty— the labour party and soft tories successfully remove the tories tteeeet— successfully remove the tories ttooeet wete— successfully remove the tories biggest vote winner. boris yetmeem. — biggest vote winner. boris johnson. it's— biggest vote winner. boris johnson. it's a— biggest vote winner. boris johnson. it's a political masterstroke - johnson. it's a political masterstroke . sunak doesn't vote masterstroke. sunak doesn't vote in masterstroke. sunak doesn't vote m tte— masterstroke. sunak doesn't vote m tte terte— masterstroke. sunak doesn't vote in the boris parliamentary tetete— in the boris parliamentary debate because he couldn't be te— debate because he couldn't be te wete— debate because he couldn't be seen to vote against boris. but eeette— seen to vote against boris. but eeette eremt— seen to vote against boris. but people aren't stupid. people

mew— people aren't stupid. people knew where— people aren't stupid. people know where his— people aren't stupid. people know where his loyalties lie. tte— know where his loyalties lie. we met— know where his loyalties lie. it's not with— know where his loyalties lie. it's not with bojo , is it? our it's not with bojo, is it? our tetttteteme— it's not with bojo, is it? our politicians right— it's not with bojo, is it? our politicians right now? look down on politicians right now? look down em tte— politicians right now? look down on the millions— politicians right now? look down on the millions of— politicians right now? look down on the millions of ordinary trtte— on the millions of ordinary trtte wte— on the millions of ordinary brits who want— on the millions of ordinary brits who want to protect trtttet— brits who want to protect british values— brits who want to protect british values and culture, who ttmt— british values and culture, who mm were— british values and culture, who think there is— british values and culture, who think there is a— british values and culture, who think there is a country that is wertt— think there is a country that is worth conserving,— think there is a country that is worth conserving, who are proud of worth conserving, who are proud ef ew— worth conserving, who are proud ef ttetery— worth conserving, who are proud ef ttetery .— worth conserving, who are proud of our history , who— worth conserving, who are proud of our history , who want to of our history, who want to treteet— of our history, who want to tteteet ew— of our history, who want to protect our borders and who temt— protect our borders and who tem-t wemt— protect our borders and who don't want us— protect our borders and who don't want us to— protect our borders and who don't want us to be pushed erewm— don't want us to be pushed erewmt ty— don't want us to be pushed around by brussels, who refuse to around by brussels, who refuse te tte— around by brussels, who refuse te tte tewe— around by brussels, who refuse to lie down and— around by brussels, who refuse to lie down and just take it trem— to lie down and just take it frem tte— to lie down and just take it from the wokerati they think tteee— from the wokerati they think tteee eeette— from the wokerati they think those people are thick, they treet— those people are thick, they treet ttem— those people are thick, they treat them with— those people are thick, they treat them with disdain. they teet— treat them with disdain. they teet tewe— treat them with disdain. they look down their— treat them with disdain. they look down their noses at them, ttey— look down their noses at them, ttey laugh— look down their noses at them, ttey tewot et— look down their noses at them, they laugh at you— look down their noses at them, they laugh at you . well, why not they laugh at you. well, why not ettt— they laugh at you. well, why not ettet tt— they laugh at you. well, why not ettet tt mett— they laugh at you. well, why not ettet tt rtott wt— they laugh at you. well, why not stick it right up them then get the stick it right up them then get tte terte— stick it right up them then get the boris and— stick it right up them then get the boris and farage dream tetet— the boris and farage dream ttetet em— the boris and farage dream ticket on the— the boris and farage dream ticket on the go— the boris and farage dream ticket on the go iron out their ttfferemeee— ticket on the go iron out their differences. let— ticket on the go iron out their differences. let nigel talk. terte— differences. let nigel talk. terte ewt— differences. let nigel talk. boris out of— differences. let nigel talk. boris out of his- differences. let nigel talk. boris out of his big green eeette.— boris out of his big green agenda. stand— boris out of his big green agenda. stand for election and get mtttteme— agenda. stand for election and get millions of— agenda. stand for election and get millions of votes . have that get millions of votes. have that wett— get millions of votes. have that wett wt.— get millions of votes. have that wett wt. wewre— get millions of votes. have that wall up. you're not— get millions of votes. have that wall up. you're not laughing yew?— wall up. you're not laughing now, are you? the only thing eewmt— now, are you? the only thing eewmo ttem— now, are you? the only thing saving rishi sunak version of the saving rishi sunak version of tte met— saving rishi sunak version of tte met ee— saving rishi sunak version of the not so conservative party trem— the not so conservative party frem tetet— the not so conservative party from total annihilation and the emy— from total annihilation and the emty ttme— from total annihilation and the only thing making labour so smug up only thing making labour so smug wt mertt— only thing making labour so smug wt mertt te— only thing making labour so smug wt mertt te ttet— only thing making labour so smug up north is that boris and nigel

eremt— up north is that boris and nigel aren't standing— up north is that boris and nigel aren't standing the common man and aren't standing the common man emt tewe— aren't standing the common man and woman have been kicked erewm— and woman have been kicked erewmt fer— and woman have been kicked around for far— and woman have been kicked around for far too— and woman have been kicked around for far too long. it's ttme— around for far too long. it's ttme te— around for far too long. it's ttme te etwe— around for far too long. it's time to give the- around for far too long. it's time to give the westminster eeete— time to give the westminster emete e— time to give the westminster emete e eeet— time to give the westminster snobs a good kicking right back . wett— snobs a good kicking right back . wett ttet-e— snobs a good kicking right back . well, that's what— snobs a good kicking right back . well, that's what i think . i . well, that's what i think. i wemt— . well, that's what i think. i went te— . well, that's what i think. i want to hear— . well, that's what i think. i want to hear from you. gb views at want to hear from you. gb views et et— want to hear from you. gb views et et wewe— want to hear from you. gb views at gb news dot— want to hear from you. gb views at gb news dot com. we'll have ttem — at gb news dot com. we'll have ttem em— at gb news dot com. we'll have them on himself— at gb news dot com. we'll have them on himself on very, very etertty. — them on himself on very, very etertty. _twetl shortly. just to ask him just ttet— shortly. just to ask him just ttet-mew— shortly. just to ask him just that-know is- shortly. just to ask him just that-know is it- shortly. just to ask him just that know is it not time that you know is it not time ttet— that you know is it not time ttet meyte— that you know is it not time that maybe he— that you know is it not time that maybe he teamed up with terte— that maybe he teamed up with boris johnson— that maybe he teamed up with boris johnson and felt boris johnson and people felt a bit more representative? but tete— bit more representative? but tet-e-em— bit more representative? but tet-e-em tte- bit more representative? but. let's-on the-story let's get more on the top story as let's get more on the top story eeletemte— let's get more on the top story aslstands right— let's get more on the top story as stands right now. an as it stands right now. an eyewttmeee— as it stands right now. an eyewitness has- as it stands right now. an eyewitness has told gb news that the eyewitness has told gb news that tte eweteet— eyewitness has told gb news that tte eweteet m— eyewitness has told gb news that tte eweteet m e— eyewitness has told gb news that the suspect in a stabbing at centre— the suspect in a stabbing at central middlesex hospital was wewme— central middlesex hospital was wewme e— central middlesex hospital was waving a pickaxe.— central middlesex hospital was waving a pickaxe. the metropolitan police has confirmed _ metropolitan police has confirmed that two people were etettet— confirmed that two people were etettet. ttey— confirmed that two people were stabbed. they are— confirmed that two people were stabbed. they are staying ewtette— stabbed. they are staying outside the _ stabbed. they are staying outside the hospital in merttweet— outside the hospital in northwest london. eyewitness repert— northwest london. eyewitness retert etteere— northwest london. eyewitness report appears to _ northwest london. eyewitness report appears to slightly contradict— report appears to slightly contradict that, but we'll get more on that— contradict that, but we'll get more on that in— contradict that, but we'll get more on that in a second. one of tte— more on that in a second. one of tte wtettme— more on that in a second. one of the victims has— more on that in a second. one of the victims has life— more on that in a second. one of the victims has life threatening mtwrtee. — the victims has life threatening mtwrtee. _teemi injuries. the suspect has been tetemet— injuries. the suspect has been detained and— injuries. the suspect has been detained and he— injuries. the suspect has been detained and he has life detained and he also has life ttreetemme— detained and he also has life threatening injuries. they are tettewet— threatening injuries. they are tettewet te— threatening injuries. they are believed to be— threatening injuries. they are believed to be self—inflicted. tte— believed to be self—inflicted. the incident— believed to be self—inflicted. the incident is— believed to be self—inflicted. the incident is not thought to be the incident is not thought to te retetet— the incident is not thought to

be related to— the incident is not thought to be related to terrorism. let's get— be related to terrorism. let's get tte— be related to terrorism. let's get the latest— be related to terrorism. let's get the latest now with our temtem— get the latest now with our london - lisa - get the latest now with our london lisa hartle, get the latest now with our- london-lisa hartle, who london reporter lisa hartle, who is london reporter lisa hartle, who te-cemtret— london reporter lisa hartle, who is central middlesex is outside central middlesex weetttet — is outside central middlesex hospital. .what- is outside central middlesex hospital. what is the hospital. lisa what is the teteet?— hospital. lisa what is the latest? where _ hospital. lisa what is the latest? where you up ? �*vw�*ritt latest? where you up? well, as you latest? where you up? well, as yew eete.— latest? where you up? well, as yew eett. tte— latest? where you up? well, as you said, the hospital was evacuated , started just as this evacuated, started just as this incident was taking place. but it is open again now. we spoke to a man earlier who said he witnessed part of the attack , witnessed part of the attack, his name called gareth brown. he saw a man charging towards him with a pickaxe. we've got he spoke to us earlier. we've got to grab just to play you now. shocked, really just to see etwtewety— shocked, really just to see obviously just— shocked, really just to see obviously just to be this close to obviously just to be this close te em— obviously just to be this close te em-ttte— obviously just to be this close to an-like this- obviously just to be this close to an-like this is- to an incident like this is ewtte— to an incident like this is quite—really?| to an incident like this is- quite_really? yeah. quite shocking. really? yeah. this afternoon we just see him come side the come running out the side of the building in his building with a pickaxe in his hand, chasing 2—2 people, which we that we thought were two lads that done incriminating done something incriminating inside the hospital. hence that's why he was chasing him. so that's why we have approached that's why he was chasing him. so tito 's why we have approached that's why he was chasing him. so tito make' we have approached that's why he was chasing him. so tito make sure 1ave approached that's why he was chasing him. so tito make sure hee approached that's why he was chasing him. so tito make sure he wasproached that's why he was chasing him. so tito make sure he was okay. |ed him to make sure he was okay. but at that time he's coming towards swinging and towards us, swinging his axe and he's of he's just told us it's none of our get of our our business. get out of our way. kindly stepped of our business. get out of our wayway kindly stepped of our business. get out of our wayway andidly stepped of our business. get out of our wayway and he'sstepped of our business. get out of our wayway and he's just)ed of our business. get out of our wayway and he's just gone of our business. get out of our wayway and he's just gone and his way and he's just gone and done what he's done . so as you

done what he's done. so as you heard there, he witnessed a man charging towards him with the pickaxe . he asked him if he was pickaxe. he asked him if he was etey— pickaxe. he asked him if he was etey teee— pickaxe. he asked him if he was okay because he— pickaxe. he asked him if he was okay because he said— t he asked him if he was okay because he said he thought ttet— okay because he said he thought ttet tte— okay because he said he thought ttet tte twe— okay because he said he thought that the two men— okay because he said he thought that the two men was chasing that the two men he was chasing mtett— that the two men he was chasing might—something- might have done something incriminating— might have done something incriminating thing told incriminating thing he was told to incriminating thing he was told te—wey- incriminating thing he was told te—wey wtteml to get out of the way, which, of _wttt- course, he did. a man with a referee— course, he did. a man with a ttetexe eeyme— course, he did. a man with a pickaxe saying-to- course, he did. a man with a pickaxe saying to him. he pickaxe saying that to him. he eete— pickaxe saying that to him. he eete-ttme— pickaxe saying that to him. he eete-ttme te- pickaxe saying that to him. he said thing he knew said the next thing he knew was ttey—eweewetel they were all told to evacuate te— they were all told to evacuate te tte— they were all told to evacuate over to the other— they were all told to evacuate over to the other side of the teetttet— over to the other side of the teetttet .— over to the other side of the hospital . and— over to the other side of the hospital . and that's when it was hospital. and that's when it was all evacuated _ hospital. and that's when it was all evacuated and— hospital. and that's when it was all evacuated and locked down. eeette— all evacuated and locked down. reette wee— all evacuated and locked down. people were seen— all evacuated and locked down. people were seen fleeing from the people were seen fleeing from tte teetttet — people were seen fleeing from the hospital. there's reports ttet— the hospital. there's reports ttet eeme— the hospital. there's reports that some patients posted on secret— that some patients posted on social media— that some patients posted on social media they had hide in social media they had to hide in eeme-wtttet— social media they had to hide in some _whilst this- social media they had to hide in some whilst this all some rooms whilst this all wmfettet— some rooms whilst this all wmfettet .— some rooms whilst this all unfolded . but— some rooms whilst this all unfolded . but the police have unfolded. but the police have eete— unfolded. but the police have eett ttet— unfolded. but the police have said that they— unfolded. but the police have said that they don't . they've said that they don't. they've etwtewety— said that they don't. they've obviously arrested man now obviously arrested a man now ttet— obviously arrested a man now ttet ttey— obviously arrested a man now that they suspect— obviously arrested a man now that they suspect is carried out tteee— that they suspect is carried out these attacks. _ that they suspect is carried out these attacks. he's in hospital wttt— these attacks. he's in hospital wttt ttte— these attacks. he's in hospital with life threatening injuries , with life threatening injuries, as with life threatening injuries, ee yew— with life threatening injuries, ee yew eete.— with life threatening injuries, as you said. and— with life threatening injuries, as you said. and the police say ttet— as you said. and the police say ttet ttey— as you said. and the police say that they don't— as you said. and the police say that they don't think this is a tewer— that they don't think this is a terror related— that they don't think this is a terror related incident and the teetttet— terror related incident and the teetttet te— terror related incident and the hospital is now— terror related incident and the hospital is now open once again . ttey.— hospital is now open once again . otey. ttee— hospital is now open once again . otey. ttee .— hospital is now open once again . okay, lisa , thank— hospital is now open once again . okay, lisa , thank you- hospital is now open once again . okay, lisa, thank you very, very much. this is lisa hartley was outside central middlesex hosphal was outside central middlesex hospital. yeah, that was a fascinating insight, i think, wasn't it, from the individual

who says that he was face to face with that man as wielding an him , apparently an axe at him, apparently chasing people through the hospital is a slight hospital there is a slight discrepancy what discrepancy between what that individual what we individual is saying and what we know from the police. of know so far from the police. of course, clarity will course, more clarity will emerge, but police seem to emerge, but the police seem to be suggesting that the attack happened outside the hospital. what that chap, from what i could gather there, appeared to suggest happening inside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would happening inside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would tie appening inside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would tie inpening inside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would tie in atning inside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would tie in a little nside, could gather there, appeared to sugge would tie in a little bitde, which would tie in a little bit with eyewitness reports that were through. were also getting through. if people in safe people having to cower in safe rooms, etcetera. the evacuation taking police raced taking place, armed police raced to the scene. there is no known motive yet, although the police are saying they do not believe it is terror. and they are also saying they are not looking for anyone in connection with saying they are not looking for anjone in connection with saying they are not looking for anjone person connection with saying they are not looking for anjone person injuredtion with saying they are not looking for anjone person injured inn with saying they are not looking for anjone person injured in awith it. one person injured in a serious condition, a life threatening condition, another person in a stable person injured in a stable condition. the attacker themselves in a life threatening condition, although those wounds are to be self are believed to be self inflicted, massive operation there huge amounts of police resources , armed as well, of resources, armed as well, of course, as is the ambulance. but

this is important for you to note as well . around 6:00 uk note as well. around 6:00 uk time pm, the us coastguard will give a news conference on the submersible vessel that went missing while on the trip to the wreck of the titanic. just remember, we did do that yesterday. it was around the same sometimes these same time. but sometimes these go early, especially in light of the that we are believing the fact that we are believing anyway , that we're hearing anyway, that we're hearing tapping in morse code for tapping noises in morse code for sos coming from this vessel. so we will take that live as soon as it drops. so stay tuned, because the second that drops, we will go live to that press conference. will be a conference. there will be a lot to learn really from the latest on news understand on it. gb news does understand that rescuers searching for the thans that rescuers searching for the titans sub have heard regular tapping sounds in the form of distress signals from where that vessel went missing . new reports vessel went missing. new reports also allege that safety fears were raised over the vessel before it went missing . and before it went missing. and according to authorities, there is around a day supply of oxygen left . the clock is very much left. the clock is very much ticking at the moment, but just

want to emphasise the indications is at the minute would appear to be that those people on board that vessel are alive and therefore it is vital that they get the help that they need. that they get the help that they need . that help, by the way , need. that help, by the way, could well still be sitting on the tarmac in jersey in the channel islands, because there is a company there that is saying that they've got the capacity to down capacity to be able to get down to bottom the ocean to the bottom of the ocean where they to them they are and try to get them back understood at back up, as it's understood at the , the us is blocking the minute, the us is blocking that, which i think is absolutely astonishing. more on that as it comes to us. but earlier i had this kind of bizarre, amazing conversation , bizarre, amazing conversation, an albeit under very depressing circumstances, really , with mike circumstances, really, with mike reese, who is a writer on the simpsons now , he visited the simpsons now, he visited the wreck of the titanic last july on the same submersible that has gone missing . also with him was gone missing. also with him was his wife, denise , who had been his wife, denise, who had been due to make the same trip but couldn't go after testing

positive for covid. let's just play positive for covid. let's just play a little clip of that now. you lot of talk going you know, a lot of talk is going on you know, a lot of talk is going em etewt— you know, a lot of talk is going em etewt tte— you know, a lot of talk is going on about the safety of the weeeet — on about the safety of the weeeet lte— on about the safety of the vessel. .is a _ on about the safety of the vessel..is a very- on about the safety of the vessel. is a very , very, very vessel. it is a very, very, very rtety— vessel. it is a very, very, very risky proposition.— vessel. it is a very, very, very risky proposition. there's eyee— risky proposition. there's ye wte— risky proposition. there's anyone who booked this trip knew it anyone who booked this trip knew tt wee— anyone who booked this trip knew tt going— anyone who booked this trip knew tt going te— anyone who booked this trip knew it was going to be— anyone who booked this trip knew it was going to be risky. anyone who booked this trip knew it was going to be risky . you it was going to be risky. you etee— it was going to be risky. you etem e— it was going to be risky. you etom e temotty— it was going to be risky. you sign a lengthy waiver that lists reetty— sign a lengthy waiver that lists reetty foo— sign a lengthy waiver that lists reetty foo weye— sign a lengthy waiver that lists really 100 ways to— sign a lengthy waiver that lists really 100 ways to die , things really 100 ways to die, things ttet— really 100 ways to die, things ttet eewtt— really 100 ways to die, things ttet eewtt 90— really 100 ways to die, things that could go wrong. so everyone wette— that could go wrong. so everyone wette mte— that could go wrong. so everyone walks into this— that could go wrong. so everyone walks into this with— that could go wrong. so everyone walks into this with open, open eyee— walks into this with open, open eyee emt— walks into this with open, open eyee emt yew— walks into this with open, open eyes and you know, it just it met— eyes and you know, it just it twet emte— eyes and you know, it just it twet emte te— eyes and you know, it just it just sinks to the— eyes and you know, it just it just sinks to the bottom of the ty— just sinks to the bottom of the ty orewtty. — just sinks to the bottom of the ocean by gravity. and then when yew-re— ocean by gravity. and then when yew teee— ocean by gravity. and then when you're done exploring , you you're done exploring, you reteeee— you're done exploring, you release weights and you bob to the release weights and you bob to tte etee— release weights and you bob to the surface with— release weights and you bob to the surface with buoyancy. ttet-e— the surface with buoyancy. ttet-e tte— the surface with buoyancy. that's it's extremely low tech , that's it's extremely low tech, wttet— that's it's extremely low tech, wttet .— that's it's extremely low tech, which i liked _ that's it's extremely low tech, which i liked about it. it was it which i liked about it. it was tt wee— which i liked about it. it was tt e— which i liked about it. it was it was a beautiful experience. tte— it was a beautiful experience. it's something— it was a beautiful experience. it's something to— it was a beautiful experience. it's something to know and teettte— it's something to know and teettte tte— it's something to know and despite the fact— it's something to know and despite the fact that death was teemme— despite the fact that death was teemme emt— despite the fact that death was looming and despite the fact ttet— looming and despite the fact ttet ttte— looming and despite the fact ttet ttte te— looming and despite the fact that this is the— looming and despite the fact that this is the most exciting ttme— that this is the most exciting ttme twe— that this is the most exciting thing i've ever— that this is the most exciting thing i've ever done, i fell eeteet— thing i've ever done, i fell eeteet em— thing i've ever done, i fell asleep on the— thing i've ever done, i fell asleep on the way down. it was met— asleep on the way down. it was twet ee— asleep on the way down. it was twet ee tt—

asleep on the way down. it was twet ee tt wee— asleep on the way down. it was just so it was dimly lit. it was ewet— just so it was dimly lit. it was ewtet .— just so it was dimly lit. it was ewtet . tweryeme— just so it was dimly lit. it was quiet . everyone was calm that quiet. everyone was calm that i eetwetty— quiet. everyone was calm that i actually dozed_ quiet. everyone was calm that i actually dozed off— quiet. everyone was calm that i actually dozed off until we hit the actually dozed off until we hit tte fteer— actually dozed off until we hit tte fteer ef— actually dozed off until we hit the floor of the _ actually dozed off until we hit the floor of the ocean . grit the floor of the ocean. i've got to the floor of the ocean. i've got te eet— the floor of the ocean. i've got te eet temte— the floor of the ocean. i've got to ask denise .— the floor of the ocean. i've got to ask denise . mike managed to to ask denise. mike managed to get down there and mike managed to see the titanic. if everything goes well and these people are rescued, denise , people are rescued, denise, would you go back on that vessel and go and try to find the titanic? do you think i was considering doing it again this year? and i was coaxing another frtemt— year? and i was coaxing another frtemt ef— year? and i was coaxing another frtemt ef mme— year? and i was coaxing another friend of mine to— gt??? and i was coaxing another friend of mine to come with whom twe— friend of mine to come with whom t-we teem— friend of mine to come with whom t-we teem m— friend of mine to come with whom i've been in touch— friend of mine to come with whom i've been in touch .— friend of mine to come with whom i've been in touch . yes, i think i've been in touch. yes, i think i've been in touch. yes, i think twewtt— i've been in touch. yes, i think twewtt te— i've been in touch. yes, i think twewtt te ft.— i've been in touch. yes, i think i would do it. i— i've been in touch. yes, i think i would do it. i would i i've been in touch. yes, i think iwould do it. i would i might i would do it. i would i might try te— i would do it. i would i might try te te— i would do it. i would i might try te te ttte— i would do it. i would i might try to do this again. i would do it. i would i might try to do this again . try to do this again. was numerous different reasons why that interview was quite surreal, wasn't it? but i'm joined now by ryan ramsey, who was navy submarine was in the navy submarine service for 23 years. ryan, great to see again . and so great to see you again. and so we understand that there has been a knocking in morse code for sas , which has been detected

for sas, which has been detected , sos sorry, there has been detected. this is presumed to be a positive sign . it is if it can a positive sign. it is if it can be a positive sign. it is if it can te wemtet.— a positive sign. it is if it can be verified, and— a positive sign. it is if it can be verified, and i'm- c g it is if it can be verified, and i'm sure it's etee— be verified, and i'm sure it's etoo wtet— be verified, and i'm sure it's 6:00 when the— be verified, and i'm sure it's 6:00 when the coastguard make ttetr— 6:00 when the coastguard make their statement,— 6:00 when the coastguard make their statement, they'll give tetett— their statement, they'll give more detail that leads them to the conclusion— more detail that leads them to the conclusion that that was sos and the conclusion that that was sos emt teteetet— the conclusion that that was sos and detected by— the conclusion that that was sos and detected by by— the conclusion that that was sos and detected by by sonobuoys . and detected by by sonobuoys. otey. — and detected by by sonobuoys. otey. trott— and detected by by sonobuoys. otey. ttem. se— and detected by by sonobuoys. okay. right. so look— and detected by by sonobuoys. okay. right. so look ,- and detected by by sonobuoys. okay. right. so look , the- and detected by by sonobuoys. okay. right. so look, the fact is that if they are alive and they are down there , they are they are down there, they are going to need rest, arguing sharpish . from what i can gather sharpish. from what i can gather , there appears to be one company that is saying that they have the capacity to do this. they are unfortunately currently based the channel islands and based in the channel islands and therefore and are not therefore are not and are not being to go over there being allowed to go over there and help at the minute. do you know of any other technology thatis know of any other technology that is around the at that is around at the scene at the that might be able to the minute that might be able to actually help get these people up? no, actually help get these people up ? no, i don't. and i think the up? no, i don't. and i think the whoever's made— up? no, i don't. and i think the whoever's made the— c. it7 no, i don't. and i think the whoever's made the decision not to whoever's made the decision not te ettew— whoever's made the decision not te ettew ttem— whoever's made the decision not to allow them to _ whoever's made the decision not to allow them to come over to tte—

to allow them to come over to tte us— to allow them to come over to tte us wttt— to allow them to come over to the us will have— to allow them to come over to the us will have appraised fully ttet— the us will have appraised fully ttet eetettttty— the us will have appraised fully that capability to— the us will have appraised fully that capability to work out wtetter— that capability to work out wtetter tt— that capability to work out whether it was— that capability to work out whether it was capable of doing wtet— whether it was capable of doing wtet ttey— whether it was capable of doing what they need— whether it was capable of doing what they need .— whether it was capable of doing what they need . i— whether it was capable of doing what they need . i think the what they need. i think the etettemee— what they need. i think the challenge here— what they need. i think the challenge here is putting challenge here is not putting a remetety— challenge here is not putting a remotely operated vehicle . down remotely operated vehicle. down for remotely operated vehicle. down fer tteweemt— remotely operated vehicle. down for thousand metres to look teee— for thousand metres to look because those— for thousand metres to look because those there are some ttet— because those there are some ttet te— because those there are some ttet te ttet— because those there are some that do that and— because those there are some that do that and i— because those there are some that do that and i expect the rereey— that do that and i expect the rereey ftrm — that do that and i expect the rereey ftrm te— that do that and i expect the jersey firm is part of that . the jersey firm is part of that. the reet— jersey firm is part of that. the real challenge— jersey firm is part of that. the real challenge is,— jersey firm is part of that. the real challenge is, well , how do real challenge is, well, how do you— real challenge is, well, how do you recover the _ real challenge is, well, how do you recover the submersible back to you recover the submersible back te tte— you recover the submersible back to the surface?— you recover the submersible back to the surface? it's— you recover the submersible back to the surface? it's heavy. it's got— to the surface? it's heavy. it's eet eeette— to the surface? it's heavy. it's eet eeette m— to the surface? it's heavy. it's eet eeette m ft.— to the surface? it's heavy. it's got people in it. so you need some form of— got people in it. so you need some form of capability that's ette— some form of capability that's ette te— some form of capability that's ette te te— some form of capability that's able to do that.— some form of capability that's able to do that. that takes a lot able to do that. that takes a tet ef— able to do that. that takes a tet ef tewer— able to do that. that takes a lot of power on— able to do that. that takes a lot of power on a— able to do that. that takes a lot of power on a remotely eteretet— lot of power on a remotely operated vehicle to be able to do operated vehicle to be able to te ttet— operated vehicle to be able to te ttet et— operated vehicle to be able to do that at depth. 3: ' r: do that at depth. indeed. and you— do that at depth. indeed. and you were submariner , part of the you were submariner, part of the submarine service for 23 years as you you would have been trained to be able to mentally deal with a situation, i would imagine a bit like this. what do you think those people on board that submarine will be thinking right now? how would you be deaung right now? how would you be dealing it? would you dealing with it? what would you be if you if

be thinking? yes. if you if you're absolutely right, training is everything. and the every submariner— training is everything. and the every submariner across- " g 3 and the every submariner across the wertt— every submariner across the wertt eeee— every submariner across the world goes through escape tremme. — world goes through escape training. every— world goes through escape training. every submariner does tremme— training. every submariner does tremme te— training. every submariner does training to deal— training. every submariner does training to deal with the claustrophobic area that you eterete— claustrophobic area that you eterete m.— claustrophobic area that you operate in. and— claustrophobic area that you operate in. and every submariner wmteretemte— operate in. and every submariner understands the— operate in. and every submariner understands the risk of what ttey— understands the risk of what ttey te — understands the risk of what they do whilst— understands the risk of what they do whilst serving their eewmtry— they do whilst serving their eewmtry. .— they do whilst serving their country. i feel— they do whilst serving their country. i feel absolutely for tteee— country. i feel absolutely for those those _ country. i feel absolutely for those those people on board that eeette— those those people on board that eeette em— those those people on board that eeette em teert— those those people on board that people on board the titan, teee— people on board the titan, because as the _ people on board the titan, because as the conditions are extreme ff— because as the conditions are extreme tf yew— because as the conditions are extreme, if you imagine that the weter— extreme, if you imagine that the water temperature— extreme, if you imagine that the water temperature is 1 degrees or water temperature is 1 degrees er teee— water temperature is 1 degrees er teee ttem— water temperature is 1 degrees or less than 1— water temperature is 1 degrees or less than 1 degrees celsius, tte— or less than 1 degrees celsius, we going— or less than 1 degrees celsius, we going te— or less than 1 degrees celsius, we going te te— or less than 1 degrees celsius, it's going to be cold down there rwmme— it's going to be cold down there rwmme ewt— it's going to be cold down there running ewt ef— it's going to be cold down there running out of oxygen. that's going— running out of oxygen. that's going te— running out of oxygen. that's going te te— running out of oxygen. that's going te te e— running out of oxygen. that's going to be a problem . it's going to be a problem. it's going— going to be a problem. it's going te— going to be a problem. it's going te te— going to be a problem. it's going to be dark down there teee— going to be dark down there because no power to the because there's no power to the frtem— because there's no power to the tttem weeeet— because there's no power to the titan vessel at— because there's no power to the titan vessel at the— because there's no power to the titan vessel at the moment. so twet— titan vessel at the moment. so twet teetme— titan vessel at the moment. so just keeping focussed and teetme— just keeping focussed and keeping mentally focussed and teetme— keeping mentally focussed and teetmo eetm— keeping mentally focussed and keeping calm and not being etreeeet— keeping calm and not being etreeeet te— keeping calm and not being stressed is exceptionally ttfftewtt— stressed is exceptionally difficult . _ stressed is exceptionally difficult . stressed is exceptionally difficult. stressed is exceptionally- difficult . look, thank you very, difficult. look, thank you very, very much for your time. again, sorry we're a bit pressed for time there, but we'll hopefully talk to you again tomorrow and maybe we will be having some

good news. like i said before that press conference due to take place around p.m. take place around the 6 pm. mark. that live mark. we will take that live here news. ryan, thank here on gb news. ryan, thank you. ramsey , was the you. ryan ramsey, who was in the navy's service for 23 navy's submarine service for 23 years. reminder for you that years. a reminder for you that the us coastguard is holding a news conference on that search believed to take place at around 6 we bring that to you 6 pm. we will bring that to you live at news. sometimes, live here at gb news. sometimes, though, especially in light especially the especially in light of the fact that might have some big that we might have some big breaking confirm an breaking news to confirm from an sos signal in morse code that it could be brought forward. so keep your eyes on airspeed. we'll take that to you live as we now more on that we can. now there's more on that story our website, gbnews.com story on our website, gbnews.com it's fastest it's the fastest growing national the national news site in the country. the best country. it's got the best analysis, and the analysis, big opinion and the latest news. but hold latest breaking news. but hold on hats nigel on to your hats because nigel farage he could farage has hinted he could return to frontline politics. he's even said the conditions in which he'll do it. i said it at the top of the show. is it time for a dream ticket of nigel farage and boris johnson? they do some damage, wouldn't they? patrick christys on gb news britain's news

news. britain's news. channel ttem.— news. britain's news. channel ttett. eet— news. britain's news. channel ttem. eet e— news. britain's news. channel right. get a load— news. britain's news. channel right. get a load of this. meteet— right. get a load of this. meteet ef— right. get a load of this. instead of turning- right. get a load of this. instead of turning the- right. get a load of this. instead of turning the boats back and getting people on planes rwanda, it looks like planes to rwanda, it looks like we're eu a we're about to send the eu a boatload cash in order to try boatload of cash in order to try to patrol our borders. it's to patrol our own borders. it's a shocker. but of course, i'm going be talking now to nigel going to be talking now to nigel farage his possible return farage about his possible return to politics. much has been said

about that in recent weeks. and nigel is on record saying that he's open to the idea of proportional representation being introduced. i mean, of course he is. and a look at recent general election results will help us to illustrate this argument. so here is why. a nigel farage and whisper it quietly dream ticket with boris johnson comeback might actually work in the 2019 general election. the conservative party had a 43.6% of vote, which had a 43.6% of the vote, which gave it a majority of a stonking 365 seats. labour won 32.2% of the vote, giving them 203 seats. the lib dems won 11.5% of the vote and they won just 11 seats. and the brexit party had 2% of the vote. but no seat. now some people will argue that parties like the lib dems should have greater presence in the house of commons because of the significant numbers voting for them argument was them. but the argument was really made after the 2015 election and that is when nearly 4 million people voted for ukip, giving it a 12.6% share of the

vote . but the party only vote. but the party only returned. one mp, douglas carswell. and that doesn't seem quite right , carswell. and that doesn't seem quite right, does it? i am delighted to say that nigel farage joins me right now. nigel a nigel farage and boris johnson dream ticket would do some serious damage . why don't you serious damage. why don't you team up and give them a nose potentially. imean, team up and give them a nose potentially. i mean, the trouble is, potentially. i mean, the trouble relewee— potentially. i mean, the trouble is,.course, that— potentially. i mean, the trouble is,.course, that boris- is, of course, that boris tettewee— believes in open door immigration. trouble believes in open door immigration.-trouble that immigration. the trouble is that terte— immigration. the trouble is that boris believes— immigration. the trouble is that boris believes in— immigration. the trouble is that boris believes in net zero, but he boris believes in net zero, but te ef— boris believes in net zero, but te ef ewee— boris believes in net zero, but he of course, if— boris believes in net zero, but he of course, if anybody can twm— he of course, if anybody can turn - sixpence - he of course, if anybody can turn sixpence policy, he of course, if anybody can turrboris sixpence policy, he of course, if anybody can turrboris johnsone policy, he of course, if anybody can turrboris johnson pointtolicy, he of course, if anybody can turrboris johnson point i licy, he of course, if anybody can turrboris johnson point i was it's boris johnson point i was metme— it's boris johnson point i was metmo wtem— it's boris johnson point i was making when i— it's boris johnson point i was making when i first said this. wee— making when i first said this. wee ttte— making when i first said this. was this boris— making when i first said this. was this boris johnson. i was eeyme— was this boris johnson. i was eeymo-weete— was this boris johnson. i was saying weeks ago is finished saying two weeks ago is finished in saying two weeks ago is finished tm tte— saying two weeks ago is finished in the conservative— saying two weeks ago is finished in the conservative party and i mmt— in the conservative party and i ttmt tte— in the conservative party and i think the events— in the conservative party and i think the events that have eteyet — think the events that have eteyet ewt— think the events that have played out-the- think the events that have played out the fortnight played out in the last fortnight tewe—.- played out in the last fortnight tewe—. ff- played out in the last fortnighti have_. if boris have proved that point. if boris yetmeem— have proved that point. if boris yetmeem tee— have proved that point. if boris johnson has one— have proved that point. if boris johnson has one legacy, it is trextt— johnson has one legacy, it is trextt. ff— johnson has one legacy, it is brexit. if there— johnson has one legacy, it is brexit. if there are two names in brexit. if there are two names m ttte— brexit. if there are two names in this country— brexit. if there are two names in this country associated with text.— in this country associated with brexit, whether— in this country associated with brexit, whether you were for or eeemet— brexit, whether you were for or eeemet-tt— brexit, whether you were for or against-ithigel- brexit, whether you were for or against it nigel farage against and it is nigel farage emt— against and it is nigel farage emt terte— against and it is nigel farage and boris johnson. yeah, labour wttt— and boris johnson. yeah, labour wttt tete— and boris johnson. yeah, labour wttt tete we— and boris johnson. yeah, labour will take us pretty— and boris johnson. yeah, labour will take us pretty much etretett— will take us pretty much straight back— will take us pretty much straight back into the single mertet— straight back into the single market certainly by 2026, and were— market certainly by 2026, and ttere eewtt— market certainly by 2026, and there could be— market certainly by 2026, and there could be a— market certainly by 2026, and there could be a fight for text.— there could be a fight for brexit, but— there could be a fight for brexit, but takes place again at temt— brexit, but takes place again at temt m— brexit, but takes place again at some point in-late- brexit, but takes place again at some point in late at some point in the late 2020s. at

ttet— some point in the late 2020s. at ttet temt— some point in the late 2020s. at ttet temt .— some point in the late 2020s. at ttet temt . .— some point in the late 2020s. at that point , i think— some point in the late 2020s. at that point , i think boris and i that point, i think boris and i wewtt— that point, i think boris and i wewtt tewe— that point, i think boris and i would have to— that point, i think boris and i would have to try— that point, i think boris and i would have to try and work teeetter— would have to try and workj together—want would have to try and work. together—want to would have to try and work- together_want to is together whether he'd want to is emetter— together whether he'd want to is emetter ttme.— together whether he'd want to is another thing. but— together whether he'd want to is another thing. but you have a eetttwe— another thing. but you have a captive audience— another thing. but you have a captive audience of millions teee— captive audience of millions teee yew— captive audience of millions because you've got disillusioned. ?ri;r: because you've got- disillusioned. red warblers. because you've got— disillusioned. red warblers. now who i still don't think are particularly enamoured with keir starmer. they've not gone running the labour running back to the labour party, to party, so they want someone to vote you've also lot vote for. you've also got a lot of disillusioned who of disillusioned tories who can't the conservative can't forgive the conservative party the they treated party for the way they treated boris, fundamentally boris, but also fundamentally don't it's a conservative don't think it's a conservative party. if you stood , you would party. if you stood, you would get millions of votes. so i polled this recently and this is the first time i've said this on gb news. i polled this recently emt— gb news. i polled this recently emt tte— gb news. i polled this recently and the figures— gb news. i polled this recently and the figures say— gb news. i polled this recently and the figures say 4- [15 \r i polled this recently and the figures say 4 million wewtt— and the figures say 4 million wewtt wete— and the figures say 4 million would vote for— and the figures say 4 million would vote for me tomorrow just yew. — would vote for me tomorrow just yew. amt— would vote for me tomorrow just yew. tet ttet-e— would vote for me tomorrow just you. and that's without- would vote for me tomorrow just you. ' you. and that's without boris. me leading. yeah would- you. ”�*2 me leading. yeah would vote you. “rt me leading. yeah would vote for me-amt— me leading. yeah would vote for me-tmt ttet-e- me leading. yeah would vote for me and that's before me tomorrow. and that's before any—anv- any campaign or any announcement. i'm interested in terme— announcement. i'm interested in tetmeleeem— announcement. i'm interested in temoleeem .— announcement. i'm interested in temoleeem . se— announcement. i'm interested in temoleoem . se .— announcement. i'm interested in doing again . so i think it's doing it again. so i think it's reettette— doing it again. so i think it's reettette te— doing it again. so i think it's realistic to think— doing it again. so i think it's realistic to think we could get teet— realistic to think we could get teet te— realistic to think we could get teet te 5— realistic to think we could get back to 5 million.— realistic to think we could get back to 5 million. yeah, we can get— back to 5 million. yeah, we can get teet— back to 5 million. yeah, we can get teet wt— back to 5 million. yeah, we can get teet wt te— back to 5 million. yeah, we can get back up to about 70 or 80% of get back up to about 70 or 80% ef tte— get back up to about 70 or 80% of the national— get back up to about 70 or 80% of the national vote. i believe ttet— of the national vote. i believe ttet ewer— of the national vote. i believe that even under— of the national vote. i believe that even under first past the post— that even under first past the post ttet-e— that even under first past the post, that's achievable. but tettew— post, that's achievable. but. temte—eet patrick, what's it going to get mee— patrick, what's it going to get

met-t— patrick, what's it going to get met-t-em- patrick, what's it going to get met-t-em t- patrick, what's it going to get| me?-i-am i going patrick, what's it going to get. me?-i-am i going to me.7 yeah i mean, am i going to bang— me.7 yeah i mean, am i going to bang my— me.7 yeah i mean, am i going to bang my head— me.7 yeah i mean, am i going to bang my head against brick bang my head against the brick wem— bang my head against the brick wamlwon— bang my head against the brick wall?lwon-2014- bang my head against the brick wall? won 2014 european wall? i won the 2014 european elections.— wall? i won the 2014 european elections. the— wall? i won the 2014 european elections. the 2019 european elections— elections. the 2019 european elections under— elections. the 2019 european elections under pr and the 2015 result— elections under pr and the 2015 result you-ve— elections under pr and the 2015 result you've just— elections under pr and the 2015 result you've just showed the audience— result you've just showed the audience .— result you've just showed the audience . so,— result you've just showed the audience . so, you know, for me audience. so, you know, for me to de— audience. so, you know, for me to do the— audience. so, you know, for me to do this again,— audience. so, you know, for me to do this again, to— audience. so, you know, for me to do this again, to think i'm going— to do this again, to think i'm going ee— to do this again, to think i'm going to get— to do this again, to think i'm going to get no_ to do this again, to think i'm going to get no return is a very eemeee— going to get no return is a very difficult thing— going to get no return is a very difficult thing to— going to get no return is a very difficult thing to do. however, if we— difficult thing to do. however, if we have— difficult thing to do. however, if we have pr,— difficult thing to do. however, if we have pr, then genuinely eeete— if we have pr, then genuinely eeete tett— if we have pr, then genuinely centre right party that was focused — centre right party that was focussed around actually putting eemee— focussed around actually putting ettet eeette— focussed around actually putting british people first. genuine teeter— british people first. genuine border controls _ british people first. genuine border controls delivering on text— border controls delivering on text at— border controls delivering on brexit at what— border controls delivering on brexit at what we thought was eettevette — brexit at what we thought was achievable in— brexit at what we thought was achievable in terms of regulations— achievable in terms of regulations and borders, then i think— regulations and borders, then i think a— regulations and borders, then i think a petty— regulations and borders, then i think a party like— regulations and borders, then i think a party like that would get este— think a party like that would get eete ef— think a party like that would get 25% of the— think a party like that would get 25% of the vote and without eeett— get 25% of the vote and without doubt tett — get 25% of the vote and without doubt hold the _ get 25% of the vote and without doubt hold the balance of power in westminster— doubt hold the balance of power in westminster and i am not just eating— in westminster and i am not just eating the— in westminster and i am not just eating anie ena— in westminster and i am not just saying this out of— in westminster and i am not just saying this out of naked neneenai— saying this out of naked personal self—interest . i don't personal self—interest. i don't need— personal self—interest. i don't need ae— personal self—interest. i don't need to 90— personal self—interest. i don't need to go back— personal self—interest. i don't need to go back into politics at at— need to go back into politics at at in— need to go back into politics at all. i'm perfectly— need to go back into politics at all. i'm perfectly happy with ine— all. i'm perfectly happy with iife ae— all. i'm perfectly happy with iife as i— all. i'm perfectly happy with life as it is.— all. i'm perfectly happy with life as it is. but— all. i'm perfectly happy with life as it is. but here's the paint— life as it is. but here's the neini .— life as it is. but here's the paint . inene— life as it is. but here's the point. there is— life as it is. but here's the point. there is a growing public appetite— point. there is a growing public appetite ten— point. there is a growing public appetite for change. over half the population— appetite for change. over half the population now think the tint— the population now think the tint nast— the population now think the first past the _ the population now think the first past the post system is outdated.— first past the post system is outdated. the— first past the post system is outdated. the daily will outdated. the daily mail will tett—etnene- outdated. the daily mail will tell—strong and. tell you it gives strong and state— tell you it gives strong and stable_well,i tell you it gives strong and- stable _well, think stable government. well, think attent— stable government. well, think about—neare- - stable government. well, think about—years. five. about the last 13 years. five

years— about the last 13 years. five yeanlit— about the last 13 years. five years-it under— about the last 13 years. five years it under this system years of it under this system was a coalition— years of it under this system was a coalition with the lib eene— was a coalition with the lib nene anyway.— was a coalition with the lib dems anyway. and the last eight years— dems anyway. and the last eight yeane nave— dems anyway. and the last eight years have been— dems anyway. and the last eight years have been complete and utter— years have been complete and utter-ttte— years have been complete and utter-ttte ie- years have been complete and utter this is strong utter chaos. if this is strong ant— utter chaos. if this is strong ant etatie— utter chaos. if this is strong and stable government under firet— and stable government under tint—tt- and stable government under first—i'd ratheri first past the post, i'd rather try first past the post, i'd rather tn eenetnine— first past the post, i'd rather try something different. so how do try something different. so how tie-tit— try something different. so how tie-tit tnene - try something different. so how do-pr then? how- try something different. so how do pr then? : try something different. so how. do-pr then? how does it do you get pr then? how does it actually— do you get pr then? how does it actually do labour have actually happen? do labour have to then have to win and then have a referendum? so this is interesting— "iszzizit: 7 so this is interesting because referendum? so this is interesting because last interesting because the last iatean— interesting because the last iatean-ie— interesting because the last labour,-is-not- interesting because the last. labour,-is-not been labour, this is again not been noticea— labour, this is again not been noticed it— labour, this is again not been noticed by the _ labour, this is again not been noticed by the commentariat. the iaet— noticed by the commentariat. the iaet iatean— noticed by the commentariat. the last labour government voted etneneiy— last labour government voted etnengiy ten— last labour government voted strongly for proportional representation . now if labour representation. now if labour nin— representation. now if labour win comfortably,— representation. now if labour win comfortably, i suspect it witt— win comfortably, i suspect it wit da— win comfortably, i suspect it nitt ge iaet— win comfortably, i suspect it will go back on— win comfortably, i suspect it will go back on their political agenda— will go back on their political agenda .— will go back on their political agenda . it— will go back on their political agenda . if they— will go back on their political agenda . if they had to do a deal agenda. if they had to do a deal witn— agenda. if they had to do a deal wit tne— agenda. if they had to do a deal wit tne tit— agenda. if they had to do a deal with the lib dems,— agenda. if they had to do a deal with the lib dems, we'd almost eenainiy— with the lib dems, we'd almost eenainiy get— with the lib dems, we'd almost eenainiy get it.— with the lib dems, we'd almost certainly get it. whether it nauti— certainly get it. whether it neait tate— certainly get it. whether it would take a— certainly get it. whether it would take a referendum, i eaeneet— would take a referendum, i eneneet tnat— would take a referendum, i suspect that it— would take a referendum, i suspect that it probably would. i suspect that it probably would. i-tnat— suspect that it probably would. i-tnat it— suspect that it probably would. i-that it probably- suspect that it probably would. i that it probably would i suspect that it probably would tate— i suspect that it probably would take a— i suspect that it probably would take a referendum and i think the take a referendum and i think tne tinet— take a referendum and i think tne tinet naet— take a referendum and i think the first past the— take a referendum and i think the first past the post argument nauti— the first past the post argument neait teet— the first past the post argument would look pretty— the first past the post argument would look pretty edwardian. teat,— would look pretty edwardian. teat-knew,— would look pretty edwardian. yeah, know, compared to, you yeah, you know, compared to, you knew,— yeah, you know, compared to, you knew, ee— yeah, you know, compared to, you knew, ea many— yeah, you know, compared to, you know, so many people i know, you knew,— know, so many people i know, you knew, tinne— know, so many people i know, you knew, iivine in— know, so many people i know, you know, living in safe— know, so many people i know, you know, living in safe labour or eeneenative— know, living in safe labour or conservative seats just don't tatter— conservative seats just don't tetnente— conservative seats just don't bother to vote.— conservative seats just don't bother to vote. they cannot see tte— bother to vote. they cannot see tne paint— bother to vote. they cannot see the point .voting _ bother to vote. they cannot see

the point voting even in big the point of voting even in big enine— the point of voting even in big swing elections. _ the point of voting even in big swing elections. a— the point of voting even in big swing elections. a lot of young eeette— swing elections. a lot of young eeette-vete- swing elections. a lot of young people vote simply people feel their vote simply ten-t— people feel their vote simply ien-t nann— people feel their vote simply isn't worth it.— people feel their vote simply isn't worth it. you know, my gnantnanente— isn't worth it. you know, my grandparents generation all teteet.— grandparents generation all vetet. ttey-t— grandparents generation all voted. they'd lived through two went— voted. they'd lived through two world-thought- voted. they'd lived through two world thought they world wars and thought they eneait— world wars and thought they. should _younger should use their vote. younger eeette— should use their vote. younger people-i— should use their vote. younger neeniel nnat— should use their vote. younger neeniel nnat ie- should use their vote. younger people , what is the point if people say, what is the point if it-eet— people say, what is the point if it-eet ne— people say, what is the point if it-get me direct- it doesn't get me direct representation? so i, i think if ttete— representation? so i, i think if tnene nae— representation? so i, i think if tnene a— representation? so i, i think if there was a referendum on it, i really— there was a referendum on it, i neatiyltnint— there was a referendum on it, i really think reform would really do think reform would vean. — really do think reform would eat. i- really do think reform would win. yeah. .i think- really do think reform would win. yeah. and i think that people have massively as people have massively shifted as well . there's people have massively shifted as well. there's a people have massively shifted as well . there's a lot of people well. there's a lot of people i used for example, quite used to be, for example, quite pro past the post then pro first past the post and then i've really the i've just looked at really the events last few years and events of the last few years and i've changed it. i've completely changed on it. i've completely changed on it. i've completely changed it. i've completely changed on it. i actually for it actually think the case for it is . some people is quite shoddy. some people would nigel, the one of the would say, nigel, the one of the things propping up rishi sunak from total annihilation , but from total annihilation, but also one of the reasons why the labour party can afford to be quite smug about taking back the red fact red wall actually is the fact that you won't stand there or necessarily not necessarily going to stand there alongside bods going to stand there alongside boris johnson. do you not just fancy sticking it to them? do you know, i mean, in 2015 it was interesting, the tory press gave me hell and i took more

me hell and yet i took more labour took more labour votes, ukip took more labour votes, ukip took more labour votes, ukip took more labour votes than it took conservative votes . cameron conservative votes. cameron never thought— conservative votes. cameron never thought he'd - cameron never thought he'd get a mat-enti— never thought he'd get a majority-did,- never thought he'd get a majority did, and it led to majority. he did, and it led to tne— majority. he did, and it led to the referendum.— majority. he did, and it led to the referendum. think the referendum. i think with enene— the referendum. i think with where-now and- the referendum. i think with where now and if i was to where we are now and if i was to intervene— where we are now and if i was to intervene in— where we are now and if i was to intervene in this— where we are now and if i was to intervene in this situation , intervene in this situation, ite— intervene in this situation, it-e tne— intervene in this situation, it's the 2019 _ intervene in this situation, it's the 2019 conservative vote tnat— it's the 2019 conservative vote tnat i— it's the 2019 conservative vote that i-hammer- it's the 2019 conservative vote that i hammer even more that i would hammer even more tnan— that i would hammer even more tnan i— that i would hammer even more tnan i wanti— that i would hammer even more than i would the— that i would hammer even more than i would the labour vote, iaet— than i would the labour vote, iaet given— than i would the labour vote, just given where— than i would the labour vote, just given where the numbers are tetan— just given where the numbers are today. ant— just given where the numbers are tetay. ant people_ just given where the numbers are today. and people say to me, weet,— today. and people say to me, utgu, yea— today. and people say to me, nigel, you know,— today. and people say to me, nigel, you know, you should just give— nigel, you know, you should just give tte— nigel, you know, you should just give the tories— nigel, you know, you should just give the tories a— nigel, you know, you should just give the tories a kicking they teeene— give the tories a kicking they deserve annihilation. but you tnan— deserve annihilation. but you knew innate— deserve annihilation. but you knew nnate i— deserve annihilation. but you know what? i need something neeitive— know what? i need something neeitive-ten- know what? i need something positive-for, not- positive to fight for, not eenetnine — positive to fight for, not etaaanene— positive to fight for, not s( quarter of _ positive to fight for, not s(quarter of a- positive to fight for, not s(quarter of a century of a quarter of a century of campaigning— a quarter of a century of campaigning for ukip through eeet— campaigning for ukip through some good times and some pretty tenan— some good times and some pretty teaen tinee— some good times and some pretty teagn tinee ae— some good times and some pretty tough times as well, there was ainaye— tough times as well, there was ainaye a— tough times as well, there was always a positive— tough times as well, there was always a positive goal at the endi— always a positive goal at the end, nnien— always a positive goal at the end, which was— always a positive goal at the end, which was achieving natienai— end, which was achieving national independence right at the national independence right at tne ninete— national independence right at tne ninate .— national independence right at the minute . it's— national independence right at the minute . it's a— national independence right at the minute . it's a little bit the minute. it's a little bit tittieait— the minute. it's a little bit difficult to _ the minute. it's a little bit difficult to saving difficult to see what saving nntaine— difficult to see what saving britain?_if. difficult to see what saving britain?_if ii difficult to see what saving. britain?_if i get britain? well, yes, but if i get niiiiene— britain? well, yes, but if i get niiiiene et— britain? well, yes, but if i get millions of votes— britain? well, yes, but if i get millions of votes leads millions of votes and it leads to a— millions of votes and it leads to a nigger— millions of votes and it leads to a bigger labour majority and tittie— to a bigger labour majority and little representation, what wanti— little representation, what neait i— little representation, what would i what— little representation, what would i what would i have aenievet. — would i what would i have achieved. nigel- would i what would i have achieved. \a gig 4:3. cc would i what would i have- achieved. nigel thank. you'll be on box later, won't you? on the box later, won't you? 7:00. have a good stuff. 7:00. 7:00. have a good stuff. nigel farage. thank very, nigel farage. thank you very, very your very much. right. okay. get your emails coming in. gb views and

gb .com. loads between gb news .com. loads more between now 6 find out why now and 6 pm. find out why rishi could be on rishi sunak could be on a collision course with his own cabinet. again, over a cabinet. i mean, again, over a new border deal with the eu. but there's reaction to the there's also reaction to the claim that christians are seen as aggressive when it comes to trans issues. i will be talking to the british to a member of the british muslim about that. muslim community about that. that fascinating that should be a fascinating discussion. and it's 6 pm. we will live here on gb will bring you live here on gb news. latest news conference news. the latest news conference with the us coastguard. the search for that missing submersible titanic submersible near the titanic continues. now it's continues. but now it's headunes continues. but now it's headlines polly . continues. but now it's headlines polly. well, continues. but now it's headlines polly . well, the headlines with polly. well, the latest news on— headlines with polly. well, the latest news on that— : well, the latest news on that submersible is latest news on that submersible ie tne— latest news on that submersible ie tne en— latest news on that submersible is the gb news— latest news on that submersible is the gb news understands from sources close to— is the gb news understands from sources close to the— is the gb news understands from sources close to the scene that tapping— sources close to the scene that tanning tnat-e— sources close to the scene that tapping that's been detected in the tapping that's been detected in tne een— tapping that's been detected in the search for— tapping that's been detected in the search for the— tapping that's been detected in the search for the vessel the tent— the search for the vessel the tent nieeine— the search for the vessel the went missing on— the search for the vessel the went missing on the way to the titanic— went missing on the way to the titanic shipwreck _ went missing on the way to the titanic shipwreck is morse code for titanic shipwreck is morse code ten sos. — titanic shipwreck is morse code for sos. sources— titanic shipwreck is morse code for sos. sources close to the tett— for sos. sources close to the rescue tell us— for sos. sources close to the rescue tell us the— for sos. sources close to the rescue tell us the us coastguard teeitet— rescue tell us the us coastguard decided against— rescue tell us the us coastguard decided against funding deep ate— decided against funding deep water. salvage— decided against funding deep water. salvage equipment brought in en— water. salvage equipment brought in en nititan— water. salvage equipment brought in on military transport because

it wanti— in on military transport because it neait te— in on military transport because it neait be e— in on military transport because it would be 3 to— in on military transport because it would be 3 to 4— in on military transport because it would be 3 to 4 days away. ine— it would be 3 to 4 days away. ine nieeing— it would be 3 to 4 days away. the missing vessel is 3800m tetan— the missing vessel is 3800m tetew tne— the missing vessel is 3800m below the level— the missing vessel is 3800m below the level below the eataee — below the level below the eataee et— below the level below the surface of the— below the level below the surface of the sea and gb news antenetante— surface of the sea and gb news understands last— surface of the sea and gb news understands last night to venieiee— understands last night to vehicles were— understands last night to vehicles were sent down, but tett— vehicles were sent down, but tetn initiate— vehicles were sent down, but both implode .— vehicles were sent down, but both implode . ended at 3000m both implode. ended at 3000m tenn— both implode. ended at 3000m tenn- tine— both implode. ended at 3000m down. five people— both implode. ended at 3000m down. five people are inside tnat— down. five people are inside tnat natt— down. five people are inside tnat enatt .— down. five people are inside that craft . they— down. five people are inside that craft . they have as little that craft. they have as little as that craft. they have as little ae zo— that craft. they have as little ae zo neare— that craft. they have as little as 20 hours oxygen left. british iatietani — as 20 hours oxygen left. british pakistani businessman shahzada naneet— pakistani businessman shahzada naneet ant— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman are on dawood and his son sulaiman are an teati— dawood and his son sulaiman are an teat, atone— dawood and his son sulaiman are on board, along with british billionaire— on board, along with british billionaire explorer hamish hating— billionaire explorer hamish nanting .— billionaire explorer hamish harding. marine billionaire explorer hamish harding . marine operations harding. marine operations eneeiaiiet— harding. marine operations specialist mike welham told us the specialist mike welham told us tne banging— specialist mike welham told us the banging noise , though, could the banging noise, though, could be the banging noise, though, could te a— the banging noise, though, could be a ten— the banging noise, though, could be a very positive— the banging noise, though, could be a very positive sign . c be a very positive sign. it's pretty— be a very positive sign. it's pretty good— be a very positive sign. it's pretty good news- be a very positive sign. it's pretty good news that there's there was knocking, been picked up. it's been picked up by transponders , dropped from transponders, dropped from aircraft that can pick up sounds . so when they were picked that up, it could be something else banging we don't know. but it's hopeful that they might still be alive . let's bring you up to alive. let's bring you up to

date with events in paris . at date with events in paris. at least 16 people have 2 " at least 16 people have been int-unet— least 16 people have been inianet ,— least 16 people have been injured , seven— least 16 people have been injured , seven in a critical injured, seven in a critical condition.— injured, seven in a critical condition. it's— injured, seven in a critical condition. it's believed to be a gas— condition. it's believed to be a gae eanieeien— condition. it's believed to be a gas explosion in— condition. it's believed to be a gas explosion in paris. if yea-e— gas explosion in paris. if you're watching on television , you're watching on television, vou— you're watching on television, you can— you're watching on television, you can see the— you're watching on television, you can see the puffs of smoke ttete— you can see the puffs of smoke tnene ant— you can see the puffs of smoke there and indeed,— you can see the puffs of smoke there and indeed, the fire crews in attendance— there and indeed, the fire crews in attendance trying the in attendance trying to put the tianee— in attendance trying to put the tianee ant— in attendance trying to put the flames and the— in attendance trying to put the flames and the billowing smoke eat.— flames and the billowing smoke eat-petite— flames and the billowing smoke out.-police official- flames and the billowing smoke out. police official has out. a paris police official has eait— out. a paris police official has eait tne— out. a paris police official has said the exterior— out. a paris police official has said the exterior of the building— said the exterior of the building is— said the exterior of the building is in the latin quarter inattent— building is in the latin quarter incident-had— building is in the latin quarter incident-had-intol incident early had fallen into the incident early had fallen into tne eteet— incident early had fallen into the street as— incident early had fallen into the street as a— incident early had fallen into the street as a result of that exnieeien— the street as a result of that eanieeien .— the street as a result of that explosion . firefighters and explosion. firefighters and petite— explosion. firefighters and petite-en— explosion. firefighters and police-on the- explosion. firefighters and police on the scene in more police are on the scene in more as police are on the scene in more ae we nave it— police are on the scene in more ae we nave it ,— police are on the scene in more as we have it , and— police are on the scene in more as we have it, and some other treating— as we have it, and some other treating newe— as we have it, and some other breaking news from the uk. this time— breaking news from the uk. this time a— breaking news from the uk. this time a man— breaking news from the uk. this time a man has— breaking news from the uk. this time a man has been arrested tettewing— time a man has been arrested tettewing a— time a man has been arrested following a stabbing at central iiittieeex— following a stabbing at central middlesex hospital in west itnten— middlesex hospital in west tenten. twe— middlesex hospital in west london. two people sustained iniwiee— london. two people sustained iniwiee ,— london. two people sustained intwniee , ne— london. two people sustained injuries , one with life injuries, one with life threatening- injuries, one with life threatening injuries. the eweneet— threatening injuries. the ewegeet nae— threatening injuries. the suspect has been taken to neenitai— suspect has been taken to hospital with _ suspect has been taken to hospital with severe injuries teing— hospital with severe injuries being described as self—inflicted. a spokesperson eait— self—inflicted. a spokesperson eait tne— self—inflicted. a spokesperson said the hospital— self—inflicted. a spokesperson said the hospital was temporarily- said the hospital was temporarily locked down but has enee— temporarily locked down but has since reopened.— temporarily locked down but has since reopened. armed police tettewet— since reopened. armed police were deployed to— since reopened. armed police were deployed to the scene, but the were deployed to the scene, but tne ineitent— were deployed to the scene, but the incident not— were deployed to the scene, but the incident not being treated as terror related— the incident not being treated as terror related .— the incident not being treated as terror related . and more on as terror related. and more on all as terror related. and more on ait tteee— as terror related. and more on all those stories— as terror related. and more on all those stories .— as terror related. and more on all those stories . head to as terror related. and more on all those stories. head to our weteite— all those stories. head to our

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want to push through a deal with the eu. that would mean that they work with france, which is they work with france, which is the european border and coastguard some coastguard agency. but some ministers have pointed out the deal cost the money and deal would cost the uk money and they say that it wouldn't do much stop small boats much to stop the small boats crisis i'm crisis in the channel. i'm sorry, but this would be absolutely par for the course, wouldn't we have a solution wouldn't it? we have a solution right in front of us. that solution involves turning boats back and employing enough home office staff to process the existing applications before we put people on a plane and send them somewhere else. but instead , we're going to open this country's wallet in the middle of a of living crisis and of a cost of living crisis and just spray it all over europe. henry me now , who henry boulton joins me now, who is an international security and border expert. henry, so border control expert. henry, so it we're going to it looks like we're going to give the european union money to not our borders. what's not control our borders. what's going on? well, not control our borders. what's going on? well , patrick, i don't going on? well, patrick, i don't knew— going on? well, patrick, i don't know wnat-e— going on? well, patrick, i don't know what's going— gist g 07 well, patrick, i don't know what's going on. " know what's going on. i mean, wemtet.— know what's going on. i mean, ttantex. tat— know what's going on. i mean, frontex, for those people who who aren't aware is the european union agency that covid its

border control on the external borders of the european union. the it is actually a very professional and effective organisation as much as it can be because of course there's a split jurisdiction. so if you're on the italian border with the mediterranean, for example, you've got the italian jurisdiction and then you've got frontex there as well. so frontex there as well. so frontex , it really works as frontex, it really works as a coordination effort, really provides intelligence across the european union. that's what it does.i european union. that's what it does. i was good friends with the late ilka laitinen, who was the late ilka laitinen, who was the executive director of the organisation, but what i have absolutely no difficulty with cooperation with frontex. but what i'm confused about is why we would pay frontex for the privilege. you know, of course frontex has a budget and frontex costs to money run, but you know , we don't pay if we coordinate or cooperate with, let's say , or cooperate with, let's say, the icelandic authorities or the canadian authorities on something we don't pay them for

the privilege . it's an the privilege. it's an agreement. it's a mutual cooperation thing. what i suspect is behind this, patrick, is because borders come under something called the common security. security and defence tettew— security. security and defence petiew et— security. security and defence petiew at tne— f ” can security and defence policy of the european union. ant— policy of the european union. ant i— policy of the european union. ant i knew— policy of the european union. and i know from _ policy of the european union. and i know from my- policy of the european union. and i know from my personal discussions with the foreign office a few years ago , about office a few years ago, about six years ago , around all the six years ago, around all the brexit discussions that they the civil service there was passionate of the view that we should stay as integrated as possible with the european architecture for common security and defence policy, subordinating ourselves effectively to their their their decision making and their all their structures . now that their structures. now that i tettewe— their structures. now that i tetiewe ie— their structures. now that i believe is what's- ” sacccc. ”tit: now that i believe is what's behind ” sccttcc. ”tit: now that i believe is what's behind this, teeawee— believe is what's behind this, teeawee it— believe is what's behind this, because if you're _ believe is what's behind this, because if you're going to integrate— because if you're going to integrate ta — because if you're going to integrate to that extent , it to integrate to that extent, it to attain— integrate to that extent, it to aetaaiiw te — integrate to that extent, it to aetwaitw be a— integrate to that extent, it to actually be a part of it, you neet— actually be a part of it, you neet te— actually be a part of it, you need to benefit,— actually be a part of it, you need to benefit, you need to pay inte— need to benefit, you need to pay inte tneir— need to benefit, you need to pay into their budget— need to benefit, you need to pay into their budget because you're aetwaiiw— into their budget because you're aetwaitw part— into their budget because you're aetwaitw ran at— into their budget because you're actually part of it.— into their budget because you're actually part of it. you're not iaet— actually part of it. you're not just coordinating— actually part of it. you're not just coordinating with it. that is just coordinating with it. that ie-eweneet— just coordinating with it. that ie-eweneet-ie- just coordinating with it. that is suspect is about is what i suspect this is about ant— is what i suspect this is about ant-wnat— is what i suspect this is about and-what would- is what i suspect this is about and what would be behind

and that is what would be behind the and that is what would be behind tne-entit. — and that is what would be behind tne-entit. i— and that is what would be behind the-split. i think- and that is what would be behind the-split. i think it's. the cabinet split. i think it's going be henry. think going to be used. henry. i think it's be used a it's going to be used in a few years as another example years time. as another example about well just about why we might as well just rejoin european union. rejoin the european union. people bear when people should bear in mind when it to rejoining the it comes to rejoining the european union and frontex as european union and on frontex as well. why not? well. yeah, go on. why not? very quickly, it is joining- very quickly, it is joining part of very quickly, it is joining part at tne— very quickly, it is joining part of the european— very quickly, it is joining part of the european union. if you it— of the european union. if you it in— of the european union. if you are if in fact,— of the european union. if you are if in fact, what is happening- are if in fact, what is happening is that we are going to integrate— happening is that we are going to integrate ourselves into the architecture— to integrate ourselves into the architecture of— to integrate ourselves into the architecture of frontex and that wewtt— architecture of frontex and that wewtt te— architecture of frontex and that wewtt te tne— architecture of frontex and that would be the only— architecture of frontex and that would be the only reason we wewtt— would be the only reason we wewtt pav— would be the only reason we would pay money unless it's a, you— would pay money unless it's a, wee knew— would pay money unless it's a, you knew ,— would pay money unless it's a, you knew , a— would pay money unless it's a, you know , a bribe— would pay money unless it's a, you know , a bribe or blackmail you know, a bribe or blackmail of you know, a bribe or blackmail at earne— you know, a bribe or blackmail at eart— you know, a bribe or blackmail at eert tw— you know, a bribe or blackmail of some sort by the european unen— of some sort by the european union ,— of some sort by the european union , tnen— of some sort by the european union , then we— of some sort by the european union , then we are entering as union, then we are entering as an intrineie— union, then we are entering as an intrinsic element or part of tne— an intrinsic element or part of tne twrenean— an intrinsic element or part of the european union's architecture. - the european union's architecture. it's not something for architecture. it's not something tar tne— architecture. it's not something for the future.— architecture. it's not something for the future. it— architecture. it's not something for the future. it would happen as for the future. it would happen ae gart— for the future. it would happen ae part at— for the future. it would happen ae ran at it.— for the future. it would happen as part of it. that's what this is. as part of it. that's what this ie. we— as part of it. that's what this ie. we te— as part of it. that's what this ie. we be we— as part of it. that's what this is. we be we would be paying nonet— is. we be we would be paying nenew te— is. we be we would be paying money to re—enter a group of natiene— money to re—enter a group of natiene tnat— money to re—enter a group of nations that has— money to re—enter a group of nations that has open borders in the nations that has open borders in tne vain— nations that has open borders in tne nape— nations that has open borders in the vain hope that— nations that has open borders in the vain hope that that would neig— the vain hope that that would nein we— the vain hope that that would help us protect— the vain hope that that would help us protect our border, wnien— help us protect our border, wnien ie— help us protect our border, which is also— help us protect our border,

which is also already supposed to which is also already supposed te te— which is also already supposed to be protected,— which is also already supposed to be protected, not just by our tater— to be protected, not just by our own border force,— to be protected, not just by our own border force, but by the tenan— own border force, but by the trenen wte— own border force, but by the french, who we— own border force, but by the french, who we are paying £500 niiiien. — french, who we are paying £500 niiiien. it— french, who we are paying £500 niiiien. it is— french, who we are paying £500 million. it is madness- french, who we are paying £500 million. c “at: it's the million. it is madness. it's the civi— million. it is madness. it's the ciwii service— million. it is madness. it's the civil service will— million. it is madness. it's the civil service will be— million. c : it's the civil service will be arguing, i nave— civil service will be arguing, i nave ne— civil service will be arguing, i have no doubt— civil service will be arguing, i have no doubt or— civil service will be arguing, i have no doubt or parts of the civi— have no doubt or parts of the civil service— have no doubt or parts of the civil service will— have no doubt or parts of the civil service will be arguing tnat— civil service will be arguing tnat tnat— civil service will be arguing that that is— civil service will be arguing that that is the— civil service will be arguing that that is the way that we can influence— that that is the way that we can influence european union externa— influence european union external border policy. well, twe— external border policy. well, he get— external border policy. well, he get a— external border policy. well, i've got a message for them and for i've got a message for them and tar itieni— i've got a message for them and for rishi sunak— i've got a message for them and for rishi sunak as— i've got a message for them and for rishi sunak as a chief nianner— for rishi sunak as a chief ntanner ter— for rishi sunak as a chief planner for european common seewritv— planner for european common seewritv ant— planner for european common security and defence policy . for security and defence policy. for tnree— security and defence policy. for tnree weare— security and defence policy. for three years between 2013 and 16, i three years between 2013 and 16, i can— three years between 2013 and 16, i tett— three years between 2013 and 16, i tett vea— three years between 2013 and 16, i can tell you absolutely, unambiguously that you will not nave— unambiguously that you will not have influence— unambiguously that you will not have influence over it . yeah, have influence over it. yeah, wean. — have influence over it. yeah, wean. ant— have influence over it. yeah, yeah. and your— have influence over it. yeah, yeah. r: have influence over it. yeah, yeah. and your you're pretty cut and dry on that. and again, the answer appears to be staring us right in the face. we are spending or potentially going to spending or potentially going to spend more taxpayers money on rejoining the european union through the back door. what was one of the main reasons people voted for brexit to control our borders and now the best that this country's leaders have got to after no to offer after taking no competitive from competitive advantage from brexit whatsoever to try to brexit whatsoever is to try to pay brexit whatsoever is to try to pay the european union money to

help us control our borders. it's a capitulation. it's ridiculous. it's a it's a capitulation. it's ridiculous . it's a capitulation ridiculous. it's a capitulation taeet— ridiculous. it's a capitulation taeet en— ridiculous. it's a capitulation based on absolute— " r: f it's a capitulation based on absolute incompetence in government— based on absolute incompetence in government and— based on absolute incompetence in government and the civil service— in government and the civil sewiee ant— in government and the civil service and all— in government and the civil service and all political nartiee— service and all political parties would- service and all political parties would be the same . i parties would be the same. i tettewe— parties would be the same. i believe there— parties would be the same. i believe there is— parties would be the same. i believe there is no grasp in government— believe there is no grasp in government in— believe there is no grasp in government in the civil service or in— government in the civil service or in anv— government in the civil service or in any at— government in the civil service or in any of the— government in the civil service or in any of the serious petitieai— or in any of the serious political parties or any party tnat— political parties or any party tnat i— political parties or any party tnat i can— political parties or any party that i can see— political parties or any party that i can see a— political parties or any party that i can see a real grasp of etrategie— that i can see a real grasp of strategic, national and international planning or teeieien— international planning or decision making. they it's ad hoo— decision making. they it's ad hoc, incoherent— decision making. they it's ad hoc, incoherent .— decision making. they it's ad hoc, incoherent . and that is why hoc, incoherent. and that is why the hoc, incoherent. and that is why tne civi— hoc, incoherent. and that is why the civil service— hoc, incoherent. and that is why the civil service are going to be the civil service are going to te tneir— the civil service are going to be their proposition will be attractive— be their proposition will be attractive to _ be their proposition will be attractive to rishi sunak because, you _ attractive to rishi sunak because, you know, it is the aiternatiwe— because, you know, it is the alternative .— because, you know, it is the alternative . if— because, you know, it is the alternative . if you can't alternative. if you can't teweien— alternative. if you can't teweien a— alternative. if you can't develop a strategy, you might as wett— develop a strategy, you might as weit tain— develop a strategy, you might as well join somebody else's. yeah henry,— well join somebody else's. yeah henryr tnant— well join somebody else's. yeah henri/r tnant vea— well join somebody else's. yeah henry, thank you very much as nann— henry, thank you very much as ever. henry bolton- henry, thank you very much as ever. chg " sift; ever. henry bolton there. international security and border expert now border control expert right now . this is a good one to finish on is the typical christian stance transgender stance towards transgender issues seen as too aggressive thatis issues seen as too aggressive that is according to what a senior figure in the church thinks. but know thinks

thinks. but you know who thinks similarly to some fundamentalist christians about the whole trans and issue ? a lot and gender issue? a lot of members the muslim community members of the muslim community as well. is going to happen as well. what is going to happen when the trans lobby meets the british muslim community? well, let's because i'm going let's find out because i'm going to to somebody who to talk to somebody who is indeed the british muslim indeed of the british muslim community very shortly. community very, very shortly. i'm christians i'm sick and tired of christians being absolute kicking being given an absolute kicking patrick on gb news

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aren't two spirit penguins. and all this nonsense. and that all of this nonsense. and that nine year old shouldn't be taught be cat, taught that they can be a cat, right? these people, right? all of these people, they're being demonised. they're being that they are being told that they are fundamentalist bigots. in many cases, taken to cases, they're being taken to court. losing. court. they're losing. they're losing . they're being losing theirjobs. they're being demonised online anyway . demonised online anyway. certainly one views certainly one of the views anyway, that's been coming out of england at the of the church of england at the moment, after assistance , art moment, after assistance, art teacher christy higgs won an appeal against her sacking after expressing views on trans books in primary school. she won. others don't, by way . others others don't, by the way. others don't. , the don't. and increasingly, the christian view is being seen as aggressive. but it got me thinking why don't a lot of members of the muslim community think exactly the same as think exactly the same way as more christians ? more fundamentalist christians? and were they as aggressive and were they seen as aggressive 7 and were they seen as aggressive ? does the trans lobby go after them? i don't really think that they massively, and they do massively, do they? and i wonder why not? joining me now is commentator bushra is political commentator bushra sheikh. bushra, thank you very much. to catch up with much. is great to catch up with you. on you. it's great to have you on the show. appreciated. and the show. much appreciated. and we've about similar topic we've spoken about similar topic before, to before, but i wanted to highlight christians,

before, but i wanted to hthink ht christians, before, but i wanted to hthink ,t christians, before, but i wanted to hthink , are christians, before, but i wanted to hthink , are a christians, before, but i wanted to hthink , are a veryzhristians, before, but i wanted to hthink , are a very easyians, before, but i wanted to hthink , are a very easy target i think, are a very easy target because it tends to be a little bit softer, a little bit squishier maybe little bit squishier and maybe a little bit more malleable in their views. what happens when the trans lobby really meets the british muslim community? oh, patrick, you know, i don't i don't have to tell you this. you know that wnen— to tell you this. you know that wnen it— to tell you this. you know that when it comes— to tell you this. you know that when it comes to— you know that when it comes to muslims and the wneie— when it comes to muslims and the wneie trane— when it comes to muslims and the whole trans movement the whole trans movement and the tent— whole trans movement and the lgbt movement— whole trans movement and the lgbt movement general, we are lgbt movement in general, we are ineretitiv— lgbt movement in general, we are incredibly staunch— lgbt movement in general, we are incredibly staunch about where we are and what— incredibly staunch about where we are and what positions we neit. — we are and what positions we neit. inte— we are and what positions we hold. this isn't— we are and what positions we hold. " c g hold. this isn't something new that the that communities and society is seeing with muslims. we have been incredibly consistent with the positions that we hold for the last ten plus years. so we have almost created a culture where other people already understand where we sit and think this is the issue within the kind of christian community. and because it is softer, perhaps people have confused with the christians being slightly softer. so now that the ones that were coming forward and saying we don't like this,

saying that we don't like this, it's you know, it's they are now receiving pushback for it, you can guarantee that if a teacher, a muslim teacher, had lost their job because they'd looked at a nine year old and said, i am not going to call you by your preferred pronouns, my religious beliefs are that i believe in two genders and they lost their job as a result of that. there would have been— there would have been protests and were— would have been protests and tnere wewtt— would have been protests and there would have— would have been protests and there would have been demonstrations. i'm sure of it. ant— demonstrations. i'm sure of it. ant vea— demonstrations. i'm sure of it. ant ven ten-t— demonstrations. i'm sure of it. and you don't get— demonstrations. i'm sure of it. and you don't get that for , you and you don't get that for, you knew,— and you don't get that for, you knew near— and you don't get that for, you knew, poor tire. — and you don't get that for, you know, poor mrs. higgins at the c of know, poor mrs. higgins at the c et-seneei— know, poor mrs. higgins at the c of-school-the. of e primary school down the reat— of e primary school down the neat. snee— of e primary school down the road. she's out— of e primary school down the road. she's out on— of e primary school down the road. she's out on her own. i ie tnie— road. she's out on her own. i mean, is this actually genuinely an area-some of- mean, is this actually genuinely an area some of the an area where some of the cnrietian— an area where some of the christian community could argwativ— arguably learn a bit from the iiweiin — arguably learn a bit from the muslim community? ' r: muslim community? totally. and van-we— muslim community? totally. and you've actually said it in such a wonderful i'm i'm very a wonderful way. i'm i'm very happy that that particular teacher talking teacher that you were talking about her appeal . like you about won her appeal. like you said, there are many cases where we're where won't the we're where they won't win. the thing essentially we all come thing is essentially we all come from the root of the abrahamic faiths . and we do believe in a faiths. and we do believe in a lot of the same things. so you

know, when it and now we're also seeing that many of the christian members and the muslim members are coming together because they are uniting on this. as far as we're concerned , when it comes to content, which is not age appropriate in schools . if we are looking at schools. if we are looking at the trans movement and how that's indoctrinating or infiltrating young, impressionable , then impressionable children, then everybody should be standing against that regardless of whether you're muslim or you're christian. but i certainly believe that many softer christians can learn from us with this, do just forgive me for asking this. i'm going to be tatte— for asking this. i'm going to be quite intent— for asking this. i'm going to be quite blunt about— for asking this. i'm going to be quite blunt about it.— for asking this. i'm going to be quite blunt about it. do- g i'm going to be quite blunt about it. do you teet— quite blunt about it. do you teei tnat— quite blunt about it. do you feel that when— quite blunt about it. do you feel that when it comes to this eernetee— feel that when it comes to this sometimes that— feel that when it comes to this sometimes that there is an eienent— sometimes that there is an eienent et— sometimes that there is an element of protection, maybe attertet— element of protection, maybe afforded-certain - element of protection, maybe afforded certain more afforded to certain more tertnrignt— afforded to certain more forthright elements of the tritien— forthright elements of the british muslim community? then tnere— british muslim community? then tnere ie— british muslim community? then tnere ie trern — british muslim community? then tnere ie trern ,— british muslim community? then there is from , you— british muslim community? then there is from , you know, that there is from, you know, that nittie— there is from, you know, that nittie aget— there is from, you know, that middle aged evangelical cnrietian— middle aged evangelical christian lady who who, you knew,— christian lady who who, you know, doesn't— christian lady who who, you know, doesn't have too many reente— know, doesn't have too many people going— know, doesn't have too many people going into bat for her. do people going into bat for her. to vet— people going into bat for her. we ven tnint— people going into bat for her. do you think that there can be is do you think that there can be ie it— do you think that there can be ie it ie— do you think that there can be ie it ie it— do you think that there can be ie it ie it a— do you think that there can be is it is it a bit— do you think that there can be is it is it a bit of— do you think that there can be is it is it a bit of fear, maybe of is it is it a bit of fear, maybe at earne— is it is it a bit of fear, maybe of some consequences? i don't knew.— of some consequences? i don't knew—te- of some consequences? i don't knew—ta vea- of some consequences? i don't know._do you of know. what what do you make of tnat—

know. what what do you make of tnat e — know. what what do you make of that ? honestly,— know. what what do you make of that ? honestly, i— know. what what do you make of that ? c that? honestly, i believe it's because muslims have been so consistent with their voice when it comes to the trans movement, when it comes to this. we've been talking about this, patrick, . and i think patrick, for years. and i think i tweeted about well to i tweeted about it as well to say that we were already concerned this ten years concerned about this ten years ago. the consistency of ago. so it's the consistency of what we've been talking about. and even i have seen that christians have moved the goalposts for themselves. so, you know, actually i'm which which which i'm very proud of because i've always believed that that is what they think. and but now people are standing up for it. and it's just up for it. and i think it's just a time . so much time a moment of time. so much time has elapsed that people already understand where muslims sit and think it's just a matter of time before more christians come out. and when they do, people are going to have to that going to have to accept that these views as well. these are their views as well. yeah, going to ironically yeah, you're going to ironically ent— yeah, you're going to ironically ent-a— yeah, you're going to ironically ent-a teat— yeah, you're going to ironically end-a load of- yeah, you're going to ironically end a load of christians end up with a load of christians caning— end up with a load of christians earning ewt— end up with a load of christians coming out-the— end up with a load of christians coming out the closet. coming out of the closet. i tnint— coming out of the closet. i tnint-tning- coming out of the closet. i. think-thing-of think when this thing kind of etarte— think when this thing kind of etarte-tneir- think when this thing kind of starts-their-ifl starts to affect their kids, if ven-ii— starts to affect their kids, if- ven-ii—nnraee, you'll excuse my turn of phrase, but you'll excuse my turn of phrase, tat-tnint— you'll excuse my turn of phrase, but-think this- you'll excuse my turn of phrase, but-think this is- you'll excuse my turn of phrase, but-think this is an. but i think i think this is an area where people just with generat— area where people just with general-beliefs. area where people just with general beliefs need general religious beliefs need to attain—

general religious beliefs need to actually stand— general religious beliefs need to actually stand together , to actually stand together, teeawee— to actually stand together, teeawee i— to actually stand together, because i think that what we are eeeing— because i think that what we are eeeing in— because i think that what we are seeing in certain— because i think that what we are seeing in certain cases is anti—christian— seeing in certain cases is anti—christian discrimination in the anti—christian discrimination in tne wertniaee. — anti—christian discrimination in the workplace. and because a lot of the workplace. and because a lot at tnat— the workplace. and because a lot at tnat ie— the workplace. and because a lot at tnat ie wtw— the workplace. and because a lot of that is why, because a lot of tnat— of that is why, because a lot of tnat ie— of that is why, because a lot of tnat ie navte— of that is why, because a lot of that is maybe middle class, it all that is maybe middle class, it ait gete— that is maybe middle class, it all gets brushed— that is maybe middle class, it all gets brushed aside because eeeing— all gets brushed aside because we're seeing maybe as being, you knew,— we're seeing maybe as being, you knew—etewt- know, higher up the social etrata— know, higher up the social etrata ant— know, higher up the social strata and therefore above any tint— strata and therefore above any tintlrreiwtiee— strata and therefore above any kind-prejudice .— strata and therefore above any kind prejudice . and so it kind of prejudice. and so it gete— kind of prejudice. and so it gete ewent— kind of prejudice. and so it gets swept away. i seriously tnint— gets swept away. i seriously tnint tnat— gets swept away. i seriously think that the _ gets swept away. i seriously think that the case for racial discrimination— think that the case for racial discrimination or religious discrimination— discrimination or religious discrimination had exactly the tning— discrimination had exactly the same thing happened to a couple of same thing happened to a couple at iiweiin— same thing happened to a couple of muslim teachers— same thing happened to a couple of muslim teachers as has nannenet— of muslim teachers as has happened te— of muslim teachers as has happened to some christian teaetere— happened to some christian teachers. would— happened to some christian teachers. would have been made teat— teachers. would have been made teat-eiear— teachers. would have been made loud-clear-court- teachers. would have been made loud-clear-court of- teachers. would have been made loud clear court of law loud and clear in a court of law ant— loud and clear in a court of law ant-weeaiiv- loud and clear in a court of law ant-weeaiiv .- loud and clear in a court of law and-vocally . do- loud and clear in a court of law and vocally . do you and very, very vocally. do you tnint— and very, very vocally. do you tnint tnat— and very, very vocally. do you think that maybe _ and very, very vocally. do you think that maybe religious aukus reente— think that maybe religious aukus eeette witn— think that maybe religious aukus people with religious views when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes ith religious views when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes to religious views when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes to genderis views when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes to gender need ns when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes to gender need to when think that maybe religious aukus pecomes to gender need to stand it comes to gender need to stand tegetner— it comes to gender need to stand tegetner ant— it comes to gender need to stand together and start— it comes to gender need to stand together and start look, together and start saying, look, we-re-againet— together and start saying, look, we're against what you're we're not against what you're teing— we're not against what you're teing in— we're not against what you're doing in terms— we're not against what you're doing in terms of, you know, you te— doing in terms of, you know, you to it— doing in terms of, you know, you to it in— doing in terms of, you know, you can do it in your— doing in terms of, you know, you can do it in your own home or wnatewer. — can do it in your own home or wnatewer. ne— can do it in your own home or whatever. do not— can do it in your own home or whatever. do not force on my whatever. do not force it on my eniitren— whatever. do not force it on my eniitren-te— whatever. do not force it on my children-do have- children because i do have a reiigiewe— children because i do have a reiigiewe-i- children because i do have a religious-i-tol religious view and i need to be reeneetet— religious view and i need to be reeneetet ant— religious view and i need to be respected and totally. patrick i-n — respected and totally. patrick i-n iaet— respected and totally. patrick i-n iaet going— respected and totally. patrick i'm just going to say things tiwntiv. — i'm just going to say things bluntly. and— i'm just going to say things bluntly. and you- i'm just going to say things bluntly. r: 7 i'm just going to say things- bluntly. and you know what? i'm like comes to religious like when it comes to religious leaders, the muslim leaders, whether it's the muslim leaders, whether it's the muslim

leaders the leaders or whether it's the christian know christian leaders, i know that we muslim leaders we have more muslim leaders that support this. you see, they stand up for it. and i feel like within the christian climate, you to start questioning you need to start questioning your leaders and they need to understand and think about where they sit because at the end of they sit because at the end of the day, when it comes to religion, if your leaders are not pushing the same voice, you are find that are going to find that challenge. so if your leaders are no , we're going are saying no, we're going to accept correct , accept this, this is correct, but then the push back is going to any to happen. and essentially any rules, , any cohesion is rules, any laws, any cohesion is going to always come from your leaders. christians need to leaders. so christians need to speak to their church leaders, the that are charge. the people that are in charge. what are you going to do when the inevitable happens? and i hate to say this, i don't- 7 and i hate to say this, i don't think it etewt— hate to say this, i don't think it entwit te— hate to say this, i don't think it should be happening, but it witt— it should be happening, but it wttt—te- it should be happening, but it will—is when. will happen, which is when eienente— will happen, which is when elements of— will happen, which is when elements of the lobby or elements of the trans lobby or the elements of the trans lobby or tne teeter — elements of the trans lobby or the lgbtq+ lobby decide that tnev— the lgbtq+ lobby decide that tnev want— the lgbtq+ lobby decide that tnev want te— the lgbtq+ lobby decide that they want to call— the lgbtq+ lobby decide that they want to call people with fundamentalist— they want to call people with fundamentalist muslim beliefs. ieianie— fundamentalist muslim beliefs. islamic beliefs,— fundamentalist muslim beliefs. islamic beliefs, bigots who are out islamic beliefs, bigots who are eat at— islamic beliefs, bigots who are out at tenan— islamic beliefs, bigots who are out of touch and— islamic beliefs, bigots who are out of touch and who are homophobic— out of touch and who are homophobic transphobes are you just homophobic transphobes are you iaet going— homophobic transphobes are you iaet geing te— homophobic transphobes are you iaet going to get— homophobic transphobes are you iaet going to get i— homophobic transphobes are you

just going to go? i don't care . just going to go? i don't care. retain.— just going to go? i don't care. ietattv. inev— just going to go? i don't care. totally. they do— just going to go? i don't care. totally. they do that- just going to go? i don't care. totally. they do that already. patrick. this is not something respect that. if you have a movement, we can push back and say that we do not want that. so this is about people standing the holding the line and the line holding the line and staying and expecting that staying firm and expecting that you will be called names when you will be called names when you do not conform . i'm okay. you do not conform. i'm okay. bushra thank— you do not conform. i'm okay. bushra thank you— you do not conform. i'm okay. bushra thank you very,- r:r:::r f i'm okay. bushra thank you very, very neen. — bushra thank you very, very neen. ant— bushra thank you very, very neen. ant i— bushra thank you very, very much. and i do— bushra thank you very, very much. and i do seriously, i'm verv— much. and i do seriously, i'm very grat— much. and i do seriously, i'm very gtat te— much. and i do seriously, i'm very glad to have— much. and i do seriously, i'm very glad to have had this conversation— very glad to have had this conversation because, you know, i conversation because, you know, itnint— conversation because, you know, itnint tnie— conversation because, you know, i think this this— conversation because, you know, i think this this issue is not going— i think this this issue is not going away— i think this this issue is not going away ant— i think this this issue is not going away and i really do think tnat— going away and i really do think tnat-ie— going away and i really do think tnat-ie an— going away and i really do think that-is an area— going away and i really do think that is an area where maybe that this is an area where maybe some elements— that this is an area where maybe some elements of— that this is an area where maybe some elements of the christian community— some elements of the christian community seriously have a community can seriously have a teet— community can seriously have a iaet-wav— community can seriously have a iaet-way tnat— look at the way that some eienente— look at the way that some elements-the- look at the way that some elements the muslim community elements of the muslim community are elements of the muslim community nantiing— elements of the muslim community are handling-think,- are handling this and think, wett— are handling this and think, weir-nett— are handling this and think, well,-not?-don't. are handling this and think, well, not? don't we are handling this and think,- well,-not?-don't we just well, why not? why don't we just do the same? why don't we just do the same? why don't we just te—naenra- do the same thing? bushra, thank you-much—

do the same thing? bushra, thank you-much. bushra- you very much. bushra sheikh ttere— there, political commentator, trient— there, political commentator,| friend—course, friend of the show. of course, get— friend of the show. of course, get veer— friend of the show. of course, get vewr iee— friend of the show. of course, get your views coming in on all of get your views coming in on all et-viewe— get your views coming in on all et-viewe ant- get your views coming in on all of-views and gb- get your views coming in on all of views and gb news of this. gb views and gb news i-n-tnat— of this. gb views and gb news| .com. i'm-that-been .com. i'm glad that we've been atte— .com. i'm glad that we've been ante-et— .com. i'm glad that we've been ante-at te— .com. i'm glad that we've been ante-at to a— able to kind of do a bit of a numeri— able to kind of do a bit of a number on that— able to kind of do a bit of a number on that story very enertiv. — number on that story very shorflv- _going- number on that story very shortly. going to go number on that story very- shortly.-going to go live shortly. we are going to go live to shortly. we are going to go live te-newe— shortly. we are going to go live to-news conference- shortly. we are going to go live to news conference that's to the news conference that's tating — to the news conference that's taking _a— to the news conference that's taking _or will- to the news conference that's taking or will take place taking place or will take place in-te— taking place or will take place in-te tnie— taking place or will take place in _to this this- taking place or will take place in to this this this in relation to this this this nieeing— in relation to this this this missing submersible, michel dup reining— missing submersible, michel dup reining ne— missing submersible, michel dup reining me in— missing submersible, michel dup joining me in the— missing submersible, michel dup joining me in the studio right- new—wean. now for dewbs& co michel. yeah, twe— now for dewbs& co michel. yeah, he get— now for dewbs& co michel. yeah, he get att— now for dewbs& co michel. yeah, he get ait nv— now for dewbs& co michel. yeah, i've got all my fingers, toes , i've got all my fingers, toes, everything crossed again. we brook that of, you know, the press conference at 6:00 yesterday. i was hoping actually it was going to be updating, saying that they'd found this vessel , they'd rescued it. but vessel, they'd rescued it. but no, it was just basically- r: f: c but no, it was just basically saying tnev— no, it was just basically saying tnev ettt— no, it was just basically saying they still didn't— no, it was just basically saying they still didn't really know wnat— they still didn't really know wnat wae— they still didn't really know what was what. _ they still didn't really know what was what. at at at the 6:00 iaet— what was what. at at at the 6:00 iaet nigtt— what was what. at at at the 6:00 iaet nignt, tnev— what was what. at at at the 6:00 last night, they was— what was what. at at at the 6:00 last night, they was telling us tnat— last night, they was telling us tnat-wae— last night, they was telling us tnat-wae ai— last night, they was telling us that-was 41 hours- last night, they was telling us that was 41 hours worth of that there was 41 hours worth of oxygen— that there was 41 hours worth of oxygen attent— that there was 41 hours worth of oxygen about to— that there was 41 hours worth of oxygen, about 40 hours or so. so you— oxygen, about 40 hours or so. so ven knew,— oxygen, about 40 hours or so. so ven tnew taet— oxygen, about 40 hours or so. so you know, fast forward 24 hours tag.— you know, fast forward 24 hours late. ven-we— you know, fast forward 24 hours tater, ven-we get— you know, fast forward 24 hours later, you've got 17— you know, fast forward 24 hours later, you've got 17 hours left. now:— later, you've got 17 hours left. wow, i— later, you've got 17 hours left. wow, i imagine— later, you've got 17 hours left. now, i imagine that they're going— now, i imagine that they're going te— now, i imagine that they're going to te— now, i imagine that they're going to be updating us at 6:00 witn— going to be updating us at 6:00 witn ant— going to be updating us at 6:00 witn ant i— going to be updating us at 6:00 witn ant iiwet— going to be updating us at 6:00 with and i just hope that we're going— with and i just hope that we're going te— with and i just hope that we're going to nave— with and i just hope that we're going to have some positive news as going to have some positive news as—ant— going to have some positive news as—ant ter- going to have some positive news as—ant tar nne.- as yeah, exactly. and for me, this idea that there's been this

tapping in morse code sos is a really positive sign. yeah. this, by the way, what you're looking at on your screens right now is where this press conference is going to take place. we'll live to that in place. we'll go live to that in a moments. what a matter of moments. but what infuriates what infuriates me is that from what we there a we can gather, there is a company based in jersey at the moment that they moment with equipment that they say able to try to get to say is able to try to get to this submersible . well, and as this submersible. well, and as we understand it, this submersible. well, and as we understand it , the us we understand it, the us government is blocking it . government is blocking it. well, so you're all talking attent— well, so you're all talking about magellan. that is the company.— about magellan. that is the eennanv. we— about magellan. that is the company. we tried to get ahold of company. we tried to get ahold at tnen— company. we tried to get ahold of them actually. _ company. we tried to get ahold of them actually. they're not it's kind of, i would say, once in a lifetime. um, but ontnot of them actually. they're not eneating— of them actually. they're not eneating te— of them actually. they're not speaking to the— of them actually. they're not speaking to the media. they have eneating— of them actually. they're not eneating te— of them actually. they're not speaking to the— of them actually. they're not speaking to the media. they have ieewet—tneir- ieewet—tneir- issued a statement on their weteite—get- issued a statement on their weteite—get- issued a statement on their website,-got in. issued a statement on their. website,-got in front website, which i've got in front of issued a statement on their website,-got in. issued a statement on their. website,-got in front website, which i've got in front of website, which i've got in front et-it— website, which i've got in front et-it nannene- website, which i've got in front of it 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or not, they just say tnat tnev-re— rejected or not, they just say that they're ready to support . rejected or not, they just say tnat tnev-re— rejected or not, they just say that they're ready to support . that they're ready to support. were— that they're ready to support. were tetty— that they're ready to support. we're fully mobilised to help that they're ready to support. were— that they're ready to support. were tetty— that they're ready to support. we're fully mobilised to ant— we're fully mobilised to help ant it— we're fully mobilised to help and it doesn't— we're fully mobilised to help and it doesn't wish to comment on netia— and it doesn't wish to comment on media reports— and it doesn't wish to comment on media reports that that naen-t— on media reports that that naen-t teen— on media reports that that hasn't been accepted. of course, tnere-e— hasn't been accepted. of course, tnere-e a— hasn't been accepted. of course, there's a french— hasn't been accepted. of course, 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