people on board, they're the people on board, they're kind of know him as mr titanic. he's done this. this kind of expedition multiple times. look i can see somebody behind that plinth now. and so now i think that— plinth now. and so now i think that we— plinth now. and so now i think that we mtgtt— plinth now. and so now i think that we might in— plinth now. and so now i think that we might in just- and so now i think that we might in just a second go that we might in just a second to to— that we might in just a second go to ttts. — that we might in just a second go to ttts. we— that we might in just a second go to this. we will take this press— go to this. we will take this press conference— go to this. we will take this press conference right now . press conference right now. updates— press conference right now. updates regarding- press conference right now. updates regarding the- press conference right now. updates regarding the search and rescue case for the submersible titan that's located approximately 900 nautical miles off shore in the vicinity of the wreck of the titanic. today, we will have speaking captain frederick, response coordinator of the first coastguard district . he'll be giving a brief statement followed by about ten minutes for questions and answers . thank you so much answers. thank you so much again. let me please introduce captain frederick . team up . captain frederick. team up. here good afternoon, everyone . i'm good afternoon, everyone. i'm captttn— good afternoon, everyone. i'm captttn jamie—

good afternoon, everyone. i'm captain jamie frederick with the first— captain jamie frederick with the first coastguard— captain jamie frederick with the first coastguard district, and i'll first coastguard district, and m trotte— first coastguard district, and i'll provide an— first coastguard district, and i'll provide an update on our ongotng— i'll provide an update on our ongoing search— i'll provide an update on our ongoing search efforts for the ttttn— ongoing search efforts for the titan submarine— ongoing search efforts for the titan submarine behind me or testte— titan submarine behind me or testte me— titan submarine behind me or testte me ,— titan submarine behind me or testte me , ._ titan submarine behind me or beside me , i should say. you'll beside me, i should say. you'll see several subject matter experts— see several subject matter experts tom — see several subject matter experts from the unified command who tnttotute— experts from the unified command who introduce themselves momentarily— who introduce themselves momentarily ._ who introduce themselves momentarily . these individuals momentarily. these individuals represent— momentarily. these individuals represent only— momentarily. these individuals represent only a— momentarily. these individuals represent only a small fraction of represent only a small fraction et tre— represent only a small fraction et the retry— represent only a small fraction of the many dedicated professionals working around the eteet— professionals working around the eteet err— professionals working around the eteet or the— professionals working around the clock on this complex response ettert— clock on this complex response ettert. tre— clock on this complex response effort. we understand this is an extremety— effort. we understand this is an extremely difficult time for the terrtttee— extremely difficult time for the terrtttee et— extremely difficult time for the families of the— extremely difficult time for the families of the missing crew rrerreret— families of the missing crew members aboard the titan. and our members aboard the titan. and tteugtte— members aboard the titan. and our thoughts acas go out to them and tre— our thoughts acas go out to them art the crew.— our thoughts acas go out to them and the crew. the— our thoughts acas go out to them and the crew. the unified eerrrrrrt— and the crew. the unified command team is working ttreteeety— command team is working tirelessly to— command team is working tirelessly to bring all available— tirelessly to bring all available assets and expertise to tear— available assets and expertise to tear te— available assets and expertise to bear as quickly as possible. in to bear as quickly as possible. trr reeerreer— to bear as quickly as possible. in response to— to bear as quickly as possible. in response to this complex operator— in response to this complex ererttterr .— in response to this complex operation . and— in response to this complex operation . and we remain in operation. and we remain in eteee— operation. and we remain in eteee eerteet— operation. and we remain in close contact with the family rrerreret— close contact with the family members and— close contact with the family members and the crew to ensure trey— members and the crew to ensure they re— members and the crew to ensure trey trut— members and the crew to ensure they are fully aware of our turret— they are fully aware of our current and— they are fully aware of our current and future search etterte. — current and future search efforts. additionally we have teen— efforts. additionally we have been tr— efforts. additionally we have been in close— efforts. additionally we have been in close contact with the trtttet— been in close contact with the trtttet ent— been in close contact with the british and french consulates. generat— british and french consulates. eerreret te— british and french consulates. general to ensure— british and french consulates. general to ensure that they are trut— general to ensure that they are trtty eppreteet— general to ensure that they are fully appraised of—

general to ensure that they are fully appraised of our efforts ent— fully appraised of our efforts and we— fully appraised of our efforts and we are ensuring that their concerns are being addressed . concerns are being addressed. were— concerns are being addressed. we're incredibly— concerns are being addressed. we're incredibly grateful for the tutt— we're incredibly grateful for the full spectrum of international assistance that tree— international assistance that tree teen— international assistance that has been provided, including an expert— has been provided, including an expert submariner_ has been provided, including an expert submariner from the royal navv- — expert submariner from the royal navv- here— expert submariner from the royal navy. here wttt— expert submariner from the royal navy. here with us— expert submariner from the royal navy. here with us serving ttetrt— navy. here with us serving tteert te— navy. here with us serving tteert re a— navy. here with us serving aboard as a critical member of term — aboard as a critical member of our team . additionally a team of our team. additionally a team of ttgtty— our team. additionally a team of trtgtrty tretrret— our team. additionally a team of highly trained french rov operators— highly trained french rov operators departed saint john's teet— operators departed saint john's ttet mett— operators departed saint john's tret rrtrtt rre— operators departed saint john's last night are in— operators departed saint john's last night are in route to aid tre— last night are in route to aid the eerret— last night are in route to aid the search. moreover our crrrrttrrr— the search. moreover our canadian partners have been providing— canadian partners have been providing critical leadership ret— providing critical leadership and significant— providing critical leadership and significant response capabilities— and significant response capabilities since the beginning of capabilities since the beginning rt rur— capabilities since the beginning rt ettrrte— capabilities since the beginning of our efforts .— capabilities since the beginning of our efforts . again, this is of our efforts. again, this is an incredibly— of our efforts. again, this is an incredibly complex search rperrttrrr— an incredibly complex search operation requiring both surface and subsurface— operation requiring both surface and subsurface elements . us and and subsurface elements. us and our and subsurface elements. us and rrrtttet— and subsurface elements. us and our unified approach is ertttert— our unified approach is critical. the— our unified approach is critical. the location of the eerretr— critical. the location of the eerret roo— critical. the location of the search, 900 miles east of cape cer— search, 900 miles east of cape crt ret— search, 900 miles east of cape crt rrrt roo— search, 900 miles east of cape cod and 400 miles— search, 900 miles east of cape cod and 400 miles southeast of srtrrt— cod and 400 miles southeast of srtrrt rote-e— cod and 400 miles southeast of srtrrt trtrr-e .— cod and 400 miles southeast of saint john's , makes it saint john's, makes it exceptionally difficult to rrrttttee— exceptionally difficult to mobilise large amounts of errtrrrerrt— mobilise large amounts of equipment quickly . in spite of equipment quickly. in spite of three— equipment quickly. in spite of those challenges— equipment quickly. in spite of those challenges , we've been those challenges, we've been rtte— those challenges, we've been rtte tr— those challenges, we've been able to provide— those challenges, we've been able to provide continuous air ret—

able to provide continuous air rrrt errrete— able to provide continuous air and surface search assets, as wett— and surface search assets, as wet re— and surface search assets, as well as additional rov errrttttty— well as additional rov capability to- well as additional rov capability to search below the errreet tre— capability to search below the surface. we currently have five errrete— surface. we currently have five errrete reeeet— surface. we currently have five surface assets searching for the tttrrr— surface assets searching for the tttrrr ret— surface assets searching for the tttrrr rrrt we— surface assets searching for the titan and we expect ten total errrete — titan and we expect ten total surface assets— titan and we expect ten total surface assets to _ titan and we expect ten total surface assets to search in the next— surface assets to search in the rrext ze— surface assets to search in the rrext ze tr— surface assets to search in the rrext ze tr re— surface assets to search in the next 24 to 48 hours. there are twe— next 24 to 48 hours. there are two trove— next 24 to 48 hours. there are two rovs actively— next 24 to 48 hours. there are two rovs actively searching and ever— two rovs actively searching and several more are— two rovs actively searching and several more are in— two rovs actively searching and several more are in route and wttt— several more are in route and wttt rrrre— several more are in route and wttt ty— several more are in route and will arrive by tomorrow morning. were— will arrive by tomorrow morning. were reeetvet— will arrive by tomorrow morning. we've received incredible errrrrt— we've received incredible errrrrt wttt— we've received incredible support with aviation assets trem— support with aviation assets trrrr rur— support with aviation assets from our coastguard air station in from our coastguard air station trr tttzrtett— from our coastguard air station in elizabeth city— from our coastguard air station in elizabeth city .— from our coastguard air station in elizabeth city . the air in elizabeth city. the air trttrrrrt— in elizabeth city. the air national guard and canadian armed— national guard and canadian armed forces— national guard and canadian armed forces .— national guard and canadian armed forces . today, there are armed forces. today, there are twe— armed forces. today, there are two trek— armed forces. today, there are two tret tr— armed forces. today, there are two back to back— armed forces. today, there are two back to back p—s flights . two back to back p—s flights. erre— two back to back p—s flights. ere te— two back to back p—s flights. ore te ongoing— two back to back p—s flights. one is ongoing now as i speak , one is ongoing now as i speak, trtrtttrrr— one is ongoing now as i speak, trtrtttrrr tr— one is ongoing now as i speak, totalling 14 hours— one is ongoing now as i speak, totalling 14 hours of continuous on scene coverage— totalling 14 hours of continuous on scene coverage and two c—130 tttrtte— on scene coverage and two c—130 tttrtte .— on scene coverage and two c—130 tttrtte , rtre— on scene coverage and two c—130 flights , also one— on scene coverage and two c—130 flights , also one ongoing now flights, also one ongoing now ttrrrrtrrt— flights, also one ongoing now throughout the— flights, also one ongoing now throughout the day and into the everrtrrr. — throughout the day and into the evening. yesterday, a canadian t—e— evening. yesterday, a canadian t—e teteetet— evening. yesterday, a canadian p—s detected underwater noises in p—s detected underwater noises trr tre— p—s detected underwater noises trr ttre eerret— p—s detected underwater noises in the search area.— p—s detected underwater noises in the search area. as a result , trov— in the search area. as a result , rov operations— in the search area. as a result , rov operations were relocated in , rov operations were relocated trr rrt— , rov operations were relocated trr rrr rtterrrt— , rov operations were relocated in an attempt to— , rov operations were relocated in an attempt to explore the rrtrtrr— in an attempt to explore the rrtrtrr rt— in an attempt to explore the origin rt tre— in an attempt to explore the origin of the noises. although the trov— origin of the noises. although the rov searches— origin of the noises. although the rov searches have yielded

rerrttve— the rov searches have yielded negative results— the rov searches have yielded negative results ,_ the rov searches have yielded negative results , they continue. negative results, they continue. atttttrrrrtty— negative results, they continue. additionally the _ negative results, they continue. additionally the data from the t—e— additionally the data from the t—e rtrerrtt— additionally the data from the p—s aircraft has— additionally the data from the p—s aircraft has been shared wttt— p—s aircraft has been shared wttt rur— p—s aircraft has been shared wttt us— p—s aircraft has been shared with our us navy experts for trrttrer— with our us navy experts for further analysis,— with our us navy experts for further analysis, which will be erretteret— further analysis, which will be considered in— further analysis, which will be considered in future search rtrrre— considered in future search rtrrre .— considered in future search rtrrre . rtre— considered in future search plans . the surface search is now plans. the surface search is now rrrrrxtrrrtety— plans. the surface search is now approximately two _ plans. the surface search is now approximately two times the size of connecticut, _ approximately two times the size of connecticut, and— approximately two times the size of connecticut, and the subsurface _ of connecticut, and the subsurface search is up to two rrt— subsurface search is up to two rrrt r— subsurface search is up to two rrrt r trtt— subsurface search is up to two and a half miles— subsurface search is up to two and a half miles deep, exponentially expanding the size of exponentially expanding the size rt ttre — exponentially expanding the size rt the term— exponentially expanding the size of the search area.— exponentially expanding the size of the search area. we also have to of the search area. we also have tr tretrr— of the search area. we also have tr tretrr tr— of the search area. we also have to factor in the— of the search area. we also have to factor in the ever— of the search area. we also have to factor in the ever changing wertter— to factor in the ever changing weather conditions, currents and sea weather conditions, currents and etrtee— weather conditions, currents and sea states that— weather conditions, currents and sea states that expand the eerret— sea states that expand the search area— sea states that expand the search area every hour. there is an enormous complexity reeretrtet— an enormous complexity associated with this case due to the trerttrrr— associated with this case due to the location being— associated with this case due to the location being so offshore, so the location being so offshore, er trr— the location being so offshore, so far offshore _ the location being so offshore, so far offshore ,_ the location being so offshore, so far offshore , and the so far offshore, and the coordination _ so far offshore, and the coordination between multiple rrerretee— coordination between multiple reerretee rrt— coordination between multiple agencies and nations. we greatly rrrreetrte— agencies and nations. we greatly rrrreetrte tre— agencies and nations. we greatly appreciate the outpouring of errrrrt— appreciate the outpouring of errrrrt rrt— appreciate the outpouring of support and offers to provide rtttttrrrt— support and offers to provide additional equipment. the rrrtttet— additional equipment. the unified command continues to rrtrrtttee— unified command continues to prioritise assets— unified command continues to prioritise assets and resources in prioritise assets and resources trr rrter— prioritise assets and resources trr rrter tr— prioritise assets and resources in order to provide the best errrttttty— in order to provide the best capability tr— in order to provide the best capability in the most timely manner. this— capability in the most timely manner. this includes weighing rrrtttrte— manner. this includes weighing multiple factors— manner. this includes weighing multiple factors to identify the meet— multiple factors to identify the most effective _ multiple factors to identify the most effective resources rvrttrtte— most effective resources available to _ most effective resources available to the response

rrerrttrrr— available to the response operation with - available to the response operation with careful consideration. consideration to ttrrrettrreee— consideration. consideration to timeliness of— consideration. consideration to timeliness of equipment arriving on scene, usefulness and ability to on scene, usefulness and ability tr tettver— on scene, usefulness and ability to deliver assets— on scene, usefulness and ability to deliver assets to— on scene, usefulness and ability to deliver assets to the search area . over the— to deliver assets to the search area . over the past 48 hours, we area. over the past 48 hours, we trve— area. over the past 48 hours, we trve ttrrrrt— area. over the past 48 hours, we have through incredible unity of ettrrt— have through incredible unity of ettrrt .— have through incredible unity of effort, mobilised— have through incredible unity of effort , mobilised and effort, mobilised and implemented a tremendous amount of implemented a tremendous amount rt experttee— implemented a tremendous amount rt experttee tr— implemented a tremendous amount of expertise in response errrttttty— of expertise in response capability .— of expertise in response capability. in- of expertise in response capability. in addition to the ettrr— capability. in addition to the ettre rrt— capability. in addition to the ships and aircraft previously mentored,— ships and aircraft previously mentioned, we've dispatched to errt-ert— mentioned, we've dispatched to subject matter— mentioned, we've dispatched to subject matter experts from us trvt— subject matter experts from us trry trveer— subject matter experts from us navy navsea sub— subject matter experts from us navy navsea sub salve , who will navy navsea sub salve, who will serve— navy navsea sub salve, who will serve re— navy navsea sub salve, who will serve as search— navy navsea sub salve, who will serve as search coordinators on scene for underwater search rrerrttrrre— scene for underwater search rrerrttrrre re— scene for underwater search operations as so— scene for underwater search operations as so i've been etreeetrrr— operations as so i've been stressing unity— operations as so i've been stressing unity of effort a lot in stressing unity of effort a lot trr ttte— stressing unity of effort a lot in this statement and that's teerree— in this statement and that's teerree rt— in this statement and that's because it is— in this statement and that's because it is absolutely ertttert— because it is absolutely critical to _ because it is absolutely critical to this- because it is absolutely critical to this complex rrerrttrrr— critical to this complex rrerrttrrr .— critical to this complex operation . again, our thoughts operation. again, our thoughts rrt— operation. again, our thoughts rrrt rrryere— operation. again, our thoughts rrrt prayers rre— operation. again, our thoughts and prayers are with the crew, ettrr— and prayers are with the crew, wttt tre— and prayers are with the crew, with the titan— and prayers are with the crew, with the titan and their loved tre— with the titan and their loved ones. we will— with the titan and their loved ones. we will continue to work as ones. we will continue to work re trrt— ones. we will continue to work re trrt rrt— ones. we will continue to work as hard and as— ones. we will continue to work as hard and as quickly as rreettte— as hard and as quickly as rreettte tr— as hard and as quickly as possible in an— as hard and as quickly as possible in an effort to locate them. — possible in an effort to locate them. .— possible in an effort to locate them. . wttt— possible in an effort to locate them. i will take— possible in an effort to locate them. i will take a few rreettrrre— them. i will take a few questions, but before i do that, i questions, but before i do that, . tr— questions, but before i do that, . tr wret— questions, but before i do that, . tr wrrrt tre— questions, but before i do that, i do want i'm going to have each of i do want i'm going to have each rt tre— i do want i'm going to have each of the members— i do want i'm going to have each of the members team here of the members of the team here teet— of the members of the team here tret trrtrrtree— of the members of the team here just introduce themselves and terr— just introduce themselves and then-rtert— just introduce themselves and then-ahead and- just introduce themselves and then ahead and take some then i'll go ahead and take some rreettrrre—

then i'll go ahead and take some rreettrrre . — then i'll go ahead and take some questions . good— then i'll go ahead and take some questions . l: " questions. good afternoon. i'm paul hankins. i'm the director for salvage operations with the us navy's supervisor of salvage . hello, i'm carl hartsfield from the woods hole oceanographic institute . good oceanographic institute. good afternoon. i'm lieutenant- afternoon. i'm lieutenant crrrrrrrrter— afternoon. i'm lieutenant commander rich kantharia . i'm an commander rich kantharia. i'm an exetrrrrre— commander rich kantharia. i'm an exchange officer— commander rich kantharia. i'm an exchange officer currently eervtrrr— exchange officer currently eervtrrr rrt— exchange officer currently serving on the— exchange officer currently serving on the staff of commander- serving on the staff of commander atlantic commander submarines atlantic at marat,— commander submarines atlantic at no.rat,-. — commander submarines atlantic at no.rat,-. errt- norfolk, virginia. good afternoon, _ norfolk, virginia. good afternoon, lieutenant commander christie butler, working closely with captain frederick from rcc boston search and rescue mission coordinator. thank you. thanks, christine. can you tell us about the noises that were heard .7 can the noises that were heard? can you give us any more 3“ can you give us any more detail and tret— you give us any more detail and tret trttrw— you give us any more detail and tret trttrw rr— you give us any more detail and just follow up on— you give us any more detail and just follow up on what you've rrtteret— just follow up on what you've erttreret er— just follow up on what you've gathered so far?— just follow up on what you've gathered so far? based on those noises, should— gathered so far? based on those noises, should that— gathered so far? based on those noises, should that be the trrrrtttee— noises, should that be the families and— noises, should that be the families and the others who care for families and the others who care trr tteee— families and the others who care for these people— families and the others who care for these people so— families and the others who care for these people so that can there — for these people so that can there errre— for these people so that can them some reason to hope so a erupte— them some reason to hope so a errrte rt— them some reason to hope so a couple of things. _ them some reason to hope so a couple of things. on; them some reason to hope so a couple of things. ow; couple of things. one, i think when you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope. that's why we're what we do with we're doing what we do with respect the noises

respect to the noises specifically, know what specifically, we don't know what they . to be frank with you, they are. to be frank with you, they are. to be frank with you, the three detected noises. that's why they're up there. that's why they're up there. that's why they're doing what they're they they're doing. that's why they put the water. put sonar buoys in the water. the good news is, what i can tell you is we're searching in the area where the noises were detected, we'll continue to detected, and we'll continue to do we hope that when do so. and we hope that when we're able to get additional rovs, which will be there in the morning, the intent will be to continue to search in those areas where the noises were detected. they're detected. and if they're continuing detected and continuing to be detected and then put additional rovs in then put additional rovs down in then put additional rovs down in the position where the last known position where the last known position where the originally taking the search was originally taking place. it true that place. captain, is it true that these were at these noises were coming at regular as regular 30 minute intervals as we're. i hadn't heard a 30 minute intervals. so here's what i can tell you. so i am not a trained ear for underwater aquatics . that's why we have aquatics. that's why we have a team of experts that are analysing that data. that data was sent immediately to the navy last night, and it was analysed overnight. they're still looking at it, but i can tell you that it's inconclusive. but again, i think the important piece is

we're searching in the area where the noises were detected . where the noises were detected. captain, you talk about a ttrrrettrre— captain, you talk about a timeline. can— captain, you talk about a timeline. can you talk about wtrt— timeline. can you talk about what timeline— timeline. can you talk about what timeline you're working on in what timeline you're working on trr errt-ureter— what timeline you're working on in conjunction with the teams ttrt— in conjunction with the teams ttrrt rre— in conjunction with the teams that are there? _ in conjunction with the teams that are there? e e that are there? it's a timeline . tr— that are there? it's a timeline . trr wtrt— that are there? it's a timeline . in what respect? - that are there? e e in what respect? rt . in what respect? how much oxygen they have left. okay. so well , in terms of— oxygen they have left. okay. so well , in terms of so— oxygen they have left. okay. so well , in terms of so we- 913" okay. so well, in terms of so we talked rtrrt— well, in terms of so we talked rtrrt tre— well, in terms of so we talked about the oxygen— well, in terms of so we talked about the oxygen number. i think yer-re— about the oxygen number. i think yer-re rtt— about the oxygen number. i think you're all tracking— about the oxygen number. i think you're all tracking the oxygen rrrrrretr— you're all tracking the oxygen rrrrretr. .— you're all tracking the oxygen number. i think— you're all tracking the oxygen number. i think there's an trrrrrrtrrrt— number. i think there's an important point with that, though.— important point with that, though. oxygen that that's though. the oxygen that that's teet— though. the oxygen that that's tret-rteee— though. the oxygen that that's just-pieceldata- though. the oxygen that that's just piece data right just one piece of data right there— just one piece of data right there rre— just one piece of data right there r— just one piece of data right there are a lot— just one piece of data right there are a lot of pieces of trtr— there are a lot of pieces of trtr-rreet- there are a lot of pieces of data - need to - there are a lot of pieces of. data-need to consider there are a lot of pieces of- data-need to consider to data that we need to consider to and— data that we need to consider to and, you— data that we need to consider to and, you knew,— data that we need to consider to and, you know, we're continuously- and, you know, we're continuously looking at that and wett— continuously looking at that and we'll continuously,— continuously looking at that and we'll continuously, you know, do ttrt—tte— we'll continuously, you know, do that—the search.- we'll continuously, you know, do that the search. but that throughout the search. but ttrt-e— that throughout the search. but ttrrt-e rrt— that throughout the search. but ttrrt-e rrrt tre— that throughout the search. but that's not the only thing that's trrrrrtrrrt— that's not the only thing that's important. right.— that's not the only thing that's important. right. and right now r_solelv- , our efforts are solely trereeet— , our efforts are solely focussed on- , our efforts are solely focussed on the search that eertrtrrtr— focussed on the search that eertrtrrty te— focussed on the search that eertrtrrtr te r— focussed on the search that certainly is a dialogue that's trrrrerrtrrr— certainly is a dialogue that's trrrrerrtrre .— certainly is a dialogue that's happening - but_ certainly is a dialogue that's happening . but but we're happening. but but we're trereeet— happening. but but we're focussed on— happening. but but we're focussed on searching at this port— focussed on searching at this prtrrt r— focussed on searching at this point a recovery— focussed on searching at this point a recovery or a rescue at tre.— point a recovery or a rescue at the ore— point a recovery or a rescue at the or, the— point a recovery or a rescue at this. oh, this is— point a recovery or a rescue at this. oh, this is a— point a recovery or a rescue at this. oh, this is a this is a eerrt— this. oh, this is a this is a eerrt rrt— this. oh, this is a this is a search and rescue mission 100. we search and rescue mission 100. re re— search and rescue mission 100. we errret— search and rescue mission 100. we are smack dab— search and rescue mission 100. we are smack dab in the middle of we are smack dab in the middle rt eerrt— we are smack dab in the middle rt eerrt rrt— we are smack dab in the middle of search and rescue and we'll errrttrrre— of search and rescue and we'll errrttrrre tr— of search and rescue and we'll continue to put— of search and rescue and we'll continue to put every available reeet— continue to put every available reeet ttrt— continue to put every available asset that-have— continue to put every available asset that-have in- continue to put every available asset that have in an effort asset that we have in an effort to asset that we have in an effort

tr ttrrt— asset that we have in an effort tr ttrrt tre— asset that we have in an effort to find the titan— asset that we have in an effort to find the titan the crew to find the titan and the crew rrerrtere-rrr— to find the titan and the crew members. you describe members. can you describe errttrrr— members. can you describe confirm that— members. can you describe confirm that some sort of reetrrrertrr— confirm that some sort of rectangular object has been errttete — rectangular object has been spotted? there— rectangular object has been spotted? “c112 rectangular object has been spotted? there was some sort of report about that. so a couple of things. so the rovs , all each of things. so the rovs, all each trov— of things. so the rovs, all each tov trtrrre— of things. so the rovs, all each rov brings different— rov brings different capabilities , motty, the rovs capabilities, motty, the rovs ttrt— capabilities, motty, the rovs ttrrt rre— capabilities, motty, the rovs that are diving— capabilities, motty, the rovs that are diving today. paul, wtrt-e— that are diving today. paul, wtrt-e tre— that are diving today. paul, what's the what's the depth on the worm, — what's the what's the depth on the 3000m, 4000m and some rtttttrrrrt— the 3000m, 4000m and some additional rovs— the 3000m, 4000m and some additional rovs that will be rrrtvtrrr— additional rovs that will be arriving tomorrow have additional— arriving tomorrow have additional depth capability with reereet— additional depth capability with reereet tr— additional depth capability with reereet tr rrt— additional depth capability with respect to an object. so yeetertrt— respect to an object. so yesterday, one- respect to an object. so yesterday, one of the aircraft rtr— yesterday, one of the aircraft ttt eee— yesterday, one of the aircraft ttt rrt— yesterday, one of the aircraft did see an object. i will tell you— did see an object. i will tell you the— did see an object. i will tell you ttrte tr— did see an object. i will tell you this in search and rescue rrteetrrre— you this in search and rescue missions, when— you this in search and rescue missions, when aircraft are titre— missions, when aircraft are flying continuously, there is etrtt— flying continuously, there is etrtt rrt— flying continuously, there is stuff out in— flying continuously, there is stuff out in the— flying continuously, there is stuff out in the ocean that is ttrrttrrr— stuff out in the ocean that is ttrrttrrr .— stuff out in the ocean that is ttrrttrra . tre— stuff out in the ocean that is floating . we went back, we floating. we went back, we teeter— floating. we went back, we teeter rt— floating. we went back, we looked at it.— floating. we went back, we looked at it. it— floating. we went back, we looked at it. it wasn't we ettrrt— looked at it. it wasn't we didn't determine it to be debris . tre— didn't determine it to be debris . tre tre-t— didn't determine it to be debris . we don't think— didn't determine it to be debris . we don't think it— didn't determine it to be debris . we don't think it correlates wttt— . we don't think it correlates wttt tre— . we don't think it correlates with the case.— . we don't think it correlates with the case. and it is not uncommon at— with the case. and it is not uncommon at all during an active eerrt— uncommon at all during an active eerrt tr— uncommon at all during an active eerrt tr eee— uncommon at all during an active search to see things. and then we 90— search to see things. and then we err-tert— search to see things. and then we err-trek rt— search to see things. and then we go look at them. so parm we go and look at them. so parm setter,— we go and look at them. so parm sandra, etc— we go and look at them. so parm sandhu, bbc news— we go and look at them. so parm sandhu, bbc news when was the when— sandhu, bbc news when was the when were these— sandhu, bbc news when was the when were these noises first terrte — when were these noises first terrte terr— when were these noises first heard? how long- when were these noises first heard? g r: r: when were these noises first- heard? how long did they persist for? and if i could also ask , do

for? and if i could also ask, do you have any information in terms of food and water that the men might have the tories up yet ? so the so several p—s flights trve— ? so the so several p—s flights trve terre— ? so the so several p—s flights have heard noises— 7’ so the so several p—s flights have heard noises as yesterday rrt— have heard noises as yesterday rrrt we— have heard noises as yesterday rrrt we put— have heard noises as yesterday and we put assets— have heard noises as yesterday and we put assets there. we retrertet— and we put assets there. we relocated assets— and we put assets there. we relocated assets immediately wttt— relocated assets immediately wttt reereet— relocated assets immediately with respect to— relocated assets immediately with respect to food and water, it's with respect to food and water, tt-e my— with respect to food and water, it's my understanding there are ttrrrttet— it's my understanding there are some limited rations. i can't tett— some limited rations. i can't tett you— some limited rations. i can't tell you exactly— some limited rations. i can't tell you exactly how much they terre— tell you exactly how much they trve rtrrrt— tell you exactly how much they trve rtrrrt .— tell you exactly how much they have aboard , but— tell you exactly how much they have aboard , but they do have have aboard, but they do have some limited— have aboard, but they do have some limited rations aboard the veeeet — some limited rations aboard the vessel. speaking— some limited rations aboard the vessel. speaking to- some limited rations aboard the vessel. cg vessel. speaking to the families, how much hope can you give after hearing those give them after hearing those noises ? listen, i think you need noises? listen, i think you need to noises? listen, i think you need tr te— noises? listen, i think you need tr te erretrt— noises? listen, i think you need tr te erretrt .— noises? listen, i think you need to be careful . we— , listen, i think you need to be careful . we need to have to be careful. we need to have here. — to be careful. we need to have here. treet— to be careful. we need to have here. ttett. rrt— to be careful. we need to have hope. right. but but i don't i errt-t— hope. right. but but i don't i errt-t tert— hope. right. but but i don't i errt-t tett you— hope. right. but but i don't i can't tell you what the noises rrt— can't tell you what the noises rut wtrt— can't tell you what the noises are. but what i— can't tell you what the noises are. but what i can tell you is rrt— are. but what i can tell you is rrrt .— are. but what i can tell you is rrrt . tttrrt— are. but what i can tell you is and i think this— are. but what i can tell you is and i think this is— are. but what i can tell you is and i think this is the most trrrrrrtrrrt— and i think this is the most important point— and i think this is the most important point that we're eerretrtrrr,— important point that we're searching, where the noises are. art— searching, where the noises are. art-ru— searching, where the noises are. art-rtt we— searching, where the noises are. art-rtt we errt- searching, where the noises are. and-all we can do- searching, where the noises are. and all we can do at this and that's all we can do at this rrtrrt— and that's all we can do at this rrtrrt happenedr_ and that's all we can do at this point happened, isn't it? ?ig point happened, isn't it? right rtrrt— point happened, isn't it? right now about the— point happened, isn't it? right now about the status of this submersible or four fs noise and other continuing? now, if other noises continuing? now, if they so i wanted to they stop. so i just wanted to so was my understanding that so it was my understanding that

the had heard some noises the p—s had heard some noises today but do want today as well. but so i do want today as well. but so i do want to take just an opportunity to invite carl to the podium, just to talk a little bit about he has a little bit more expertise in underwater acoustics and maybe just to speak to that in general, because again, you know, there noises is below know, there are noises is below the surface of ocean . and so the surface of the ocean. and so i'll just turn it to carl. carl you spell your name? yeah . you spell your name? yeah. aukus carl ihra filed . so again, aukus carl ihra filed. so again, carl hartsfield from the woods hole oceanographic institute . hole oceanographic institute. ocean. so the ocean is a very complex place . obviously, human complex place. obviously, human sounds and nature sounds and it's very difficult to discern what the source of those noises are at times. but i can tell you that this team has multiple sensors . they're in the area. sensors. they're in the area. they're sending data back expeditiously to the best in the world, people to analyse that data , and then they're feeding data, and then they're feeding the results of that analyst back to the unified team. and they're

making decisions . so woods hole making decisions. so woods hole is here in an advisory role, but by our expertise, what i see is a very tight operational loop that's making decisions based on data and nothing is ruled out this morning. data and nothing is ruled out this morning . are they still this morning. are they still continuing on a regular basis? there have been multiple reports of there have been multiple reports rt rrrteee— there have been multiple reports rt rrt— there have been multiple reports of noises and every— there have been multiple reports of noises and every one of those te— of noises and every one of those te being— of noises and every one of those noises is being analysed, teeter,— noises is being analysed, tracked, looked for patterns and reporter— tracked, looked for patterns and reported erre— tracked, looked for patterns and reported rrrrr . — tracked, looked for patterns and reported upon . l cr?" reported upon. depher can you describe the noise? sounds like that they're hearing ? well, you that they're hearing? well, you know the noises— that they're hearing? well, you know the noises again,- ”c: "rig? well, you know the noises again, very complex— know the noises again, very complex tr— know the noises again, very complex in the— know the noises again, very complex in the ocean and you terre— complex in the ocean and you trve tr— complex in the ocean and you trve tr te— complex in the ocean and you trve tr te rrt— complex in the ocean and you have to be an acoustic analysis rrt— have to be an acoustic analysis rrrt vou— have to be an acoustic analysis rrrt yer trve— have to be an acoustic analysis and you have to— have to be an acoustic analysis and you have to have context . and you have to have context. trey-re— and you have to have context. trey-re trying— and you have to have context. trey-re trytrrr tr— and you have to have context. they're trying to put all the rteeee— they're trying to put all the pieces together— they're trying to put all the pieces together . all the noises pieces together. all the noises trve— pieces together. all the noises trve teen— pieces together. all the noises have been described as banging . rrt— have been described as banging noises . but again,— have been described as banging noises . but again, they have to noises. but again, they have to put— noises. but again, they have to put tre— noises. but again, they have to put the were— noises. but again, they have to put the whole picture together in put the whole picture together trr errrtext— put the whole picture together in context and— put the whole picture together in context and they have to ettrrtrrrte— in context and they have to eliminate potential manmade sources other— eliminate potential manmade sources other than the titan i'm errt,— sources other than the titan i'm sorryr terr— sources other than the titan i'm sorryr trw many— sources other than the titan i'm sorry, how many days us is a preettte— sorry, how many days us is a rreettte ettr— sorry, how many days us is a possible ship in— sorry, how many days us is a possible ship in the ocean or

even some mammals out there errtt— even some mammals out there errtt rrtrrrte— even some mammals out there could mimic that— even some mammals out there could mimic that kind of sound. so could mimic that kind of sound. so .— could mimic that kind of sound. so . errt— could mimic that kind of sound. so . tett— could mimic that kind of sound. so i can tell you— could mimic that kind of sound. so i can tell you from my ererterree— so i can tell you from my experience with- so i can tell you from my experience with acoustics that there— experience with acoustics that there — experience with acoustics that there are sounds— experience with acoustics that there are sounds by biologics ttrt— there are sounds by biologics ttrrt errrrt— there are sounds by biologics that sound manmade to the rrrtrrtrret— that sound manmade to the untrained ear. _ that sound manmade to the untrained ear. but i can assure you— untrained ear. but i can assure you ttrt— untrained ear. but i can assure you ttrrt tre— untrained ear. but i can assure you that the people listening to tree— you that the people listening to ttreee trree— you that the people listening to these tapes are— you that the people listening to these tapes are trained. there are these tapes are trained. there r tet— these tapes are trained. there r trt rt— these tapes are trained. there are a lot of vessels in the area rrt— are a lot of vessels in the area rrrt trey— are a lot of vessels in the area rrrt they errt— are a lot of vessels in the area and they each make noise, right? so and they each make noise, right? so rtt— and they each make noise, right? so rtt rt— and they each make noise, right? so rtt rt ttrt— and they each make noise, right? so all of that has— and they each make noise, right? so all of that has to be eliminated— so all of that has to be eliminated .— so all of that has to be eliminated . and its analysis eliminated. and its analysis tree.— eliminated. and its analysis over time. plus,— eliminated. and its analysis over time. plus, as the captain errt— over time. plus, as the captain said r— over time. plus, as the captain ertt , tt-e— over time. plus, as the captain said , it's we're— over time. plus, as the captain said , it's we're the— over time. plus, as the captain said , it's we're the team is said, it's we're the team is eerrettrrr— said, it's we're the team is eerretrtrrr tr— said, it's we're the team is searching in the- said, it's we're the team is searching in the right area . so searching in the right area. so if searching in the right area. so tt you— searching in the right area. so if you continue— searching in the right area. so if you continue to— searching in the right area. so if you continue to do analysis, do if you continue to do analysis, to te— if you continue to do analysis, do the analysis— if you continue to do analysis, do the analysis ,_ if you continue to do analysis, do the analysis , look for do the analysis, look for ttttererrt— do the analysis, look for different patterns and search in the tart— different patterns and search in the rtrtrt rrer— different patterns and search in the right area, you're qatar. rer-re— the right area, you're qatar. rer-re retre— the right area, you're qatar. you're doing you know, the best you— you're doing you know, the best you possibly— you're doing you know, the best you possibly errt— you're doing you know, the best you possibly can do with the teet— you possibly can do with the teet rerrte — you possibly can do with the best people on— you possibly can do with the best people on the . case excuse best people on the. case excuse me , teet— best people on the. case excuse me , deep reerrr— best people on the. case excuse me , deep ocean, south and me, deep ocean, south and errttreret— me, deep ocean, south and southeast system. 5g. southeast system. by the way, ttrt— southeast system. by the way, that was sent there, too. okay. so can you tell it if it's on

site yet and how it operates and how long it would take a rescue at that point with that which system is he speaking about? the system ? what's the system the system? what's the system that you're talking about? ocean sound system . that's just a sound system. that's just a hydraulic— sound system. that's just a hydraulic crane. - : sat that'sjust a hydraulic crane. / , so hydraulic crane. yeah. so? so ttrt-e— hydraulic crane. yeah. so? so ttrrt-e wtrt— hydraulic crane. yeah. so? so ttrrt-e wtrt .— hydraulic crane. / , so that's what i thought. so. so ttrt-e— that's what i thought. so. so ttrrt-e r— that's what i thought. so. so ttrrt-e r prere— that's what i thought. so. so that's a piece of— that's what i thought. so. so that's a piece of equipment. rte— that's a piece of equipment. tt-e r— that's a piece of equipment. tt-e r errrre— that's a piece of equipment. tt-e r .— that's a piece of equipment. it's a crane , a— that's a piece of equipment. it's a crane , a piece of it's a crane, a piece of errtrrrerrt— it's a crane, a piece of equipment. there are a lot of rteeee— equipment. there are a lot of rteeee rt— equipment. there are a lot of pieces of equipment flowing in through— pieces of equipment flowing in ttrrrretr srtrrt— pieces of equipment flowing in through saint john's right now. erre— through saint john's right now. ere-rtr— through saint john's right now. ere-rtr wret- through saint john's right now. one -did want to - through saint john's right now. one did want to mention, one thing i did want to mention, i one thing i did want to mention, t-tt-e— one thing i did want to mention, t-tt-e trrrrrtrrrt— one thing i did want to mention, i it's important that some i think it's important that some of i think it's important that some rt tre— i think it's important that some rt ttre trov— i think it's important that some of the rov capability that's rrrtvtrrr— of the rov capability that's arriving soon _ of the rov capability that's arriving soon is— of the rov capability that's arriving soon is really great, trreretttte— arriving soon is really great, incredible capability. one thing i incredible capability. one thing . wret— incredible capability. one thing . wrrrt tr— incredible capability. one thing i want to point— incredible capability. one thing i want to point out is that trerretr— i want to point out is that french team _ i want to point out is that french team that's coming in to eerre— french team that's coming in to eerve rtrrrt— french team that's coming in to serve aboard with— french team that's coming in to serve aboard with their errtrrrerrt— serve aboard with their equipment aboard a french ship, trey— equipment aboard a french ship, they trtrrr— equipment aboard a french ship, they bring erre— equipment aboard a french ship, they bring some state of the art errtrrrerrt— they bring some state of the art errtrrrerrt rrt— they bring some state of the art equipment and so— they bring some state of the art equipment and so once they get on, equipment and so once they get going— equipment and so once they get on, we're going to— equipment and so once they get on, we're going to have more reeete— on, we're going to have more reeete tr— on, we're going to have more assets to down— on, we're going to have more assets to down look and we'll errrttrrre— assets to down look and we'll errrttrrre tr— assets to down look and we'll continue to put— assets to down look and we'll continue to put them where we ttrtrrt— continue to put them where we ttrtrrt tre— continue to put them where we think the best— continue to put them where we think the best location is . think the best location is. cerettertre— think the best location is. considering how- think the best location is. considering how many- think the best location is. considering how many days past, are you still are you still

optimistic that you're going to find them? so how many days is it find them? so how many days is tt teet— find them? so how many days is tt tret terr— find them? so how many days is tt tret trw many— find them? so how many days is it just how many days— �*" ri , so how many days is it just how many days or so? terr— it just how many days or so? tow terry— it just how many days or so? how many rrte— it just how many days or so? how many days ? _ it just how many days or so? i 7 well, so it just how many days or so? “e’y : 7’ well, so we have how many days? well, so we have to how many days? well, so we have tr rerrrrtrr— how many days? well, so we have to remain optimistic— how many days? well, so we have to remain optimistic and- “ray 37 well, so we have to remain optimistic and hopeful wren— to remain optimistic and hopeful wterr you're— to remain optimistic and hopeful rrterr you're tr— to remain optimistic and hopeful rrterr you're trr r— to remain optimistic and hopeful when you're in a search and rescue case. so— when you're in a search and rescue case. so we're in we're rtrtt— rescue case. so we're in we're rtrtt tr— rescue case. so we're in we're rtrtt trr tre— rescue case. so we're in we're right in the middle of search rrt— right in the middle of search and rescue case.— right in the middle of search and rescue case. so i don't i tre-t— and rescue case. so i don't i trrtt wret— and rescue case. so i don't i don't want to— and rescue case. so i don't i don't want to get— and rescue case. so i don't i don't want to get into a discussion— don't want to get into a discussion about when that would end discussion about when that would errt titte— discussion about when that would end with respect— discussion about when that would end with respect to— discussion about when that would end with respect to this case. wert— end with respect to this case. wert .— end with respect to this case. wert . wttt— end with respect to this case. what i will tell— end with respect to this case. what i will tell you, though, he — what i will tell you, though, i'm happy— what i will tell you, though, r-rr happy tr— what i will tell you, though, i'm happy to explain to you kind of i'm happy to explain to you kind rt-rrreeee— i'm happy to explain to you kind of-process were- i'm happy to explain to you kind of-process were to - of how that process were to wort. — of how that process were to wort. vrr — of how that process were to work. you know,— of how that process were to work. you know, the coastguard rrreeertee— work. you know, the coastguard prosecutes search _ work. you know, the coastguard prosecutes search and rescue cases on a daily— prosecutes search and rescue cases on a daily basis and errretee— cases on a daily basis and sometimes we— cases on a daily basis and sometimes we don't find what terttrrr— sometimes we don't find what we're looking for. _ sometimes we don't find what we're looking for. and you have to we're looking for. and you have tr you— we're looking for. and you have tr you trve— we're looking for. and you have tr you trrve tr— we're looking for. and you have to you have to carefully erretter— to you have to carefully consider all— to you have to carefully consider all of the factors and there— consider all of the factors and there rre— consider all of the factors and there r— consider all of the factors and there are a lot— consider all of the factors and there are a lot of— consider all of the factors and there are a lot of factors to errretter— there are a lot of factors to consider here. _ there are a lot of factors to consider here. and then after you— consider here. and then after you erretter— consider here. and then after you consider all— consider here. and then after you consider all of those tretrre— you consider all of those factors, sometimes you're in a pretttrrr— factors, sometimes you're in a rretttrrr where— factors, sometimes you're in a position where you have to make a position where you have to make r treet— position where you have to make a tough decision— position where you have to make a tough decision .— position where you have to make a tough decision . and we're not a tough decision. and we're not there— a tough decision. and we're not there yet. — a tough decision. and we're not there yet. rrt— a tough decision. and we're not there yet. but if— a tough decision. and we're not there yet. but if we continue to err— there yet. but if we continue to search, potentially— there yet. but if we continue to search, potentially we could be at search, potentially we could be rt ttrt— search, potentially we could be

rt ttrrt pert.— search, potentially we could be at that point. but— search, potentially we could be at that point. but again, we're rrt— at that point. but again, we're not there— at that point. but again, we're not there yet. — at that point. but again, we're not there yet. and _ at that point. but again, we're not there yet. and that's a tteereetrrr— not there yet. and that's a discussion that— not there yet. and that's a discussion that we will have wttt — discussion that we will have wttt ttre — discussion that we will have with the family— discussion that we will have with the family long before our i'm with the family long before our r-rr going— with the family long before our r-rr going tr— with the family long before our i'm going to discuss that here publicly— i'm going to discuss that here publicly . — i'm going to discuss that here publicly . cre— i'm going to discuss that here publicly . can i— i'm going to discuss that here publicly . rig publicly. can i given this was an uncertified tomorrow morning when the oxygen is expected to be down. yeah. so i can't put a eurete— be down. yeah. so i can't put a number on on on— be down. yeah. so i can't put a number on on on the- : yeah. so i can't put a number on on on the like you tert— number on on on the like you teru tre— number on on on the like you teru tre ert— number on on on the like you know i'm not going to put a i tre-t— know i'm not going to put a i tre-t trve— know i'm not going to put a i tre-t trve r— know i'm not going to put a i don't have a percentage number. wert— don't have a percentage number. wert .— don't have a percentage number. wert . urutt— don't have a percentage number. what i would tell— don't have a percentage number. what i would tell you is that ttrt— what i would tell you is that ttrt te— what i would tell you is that ttrt te tuet— what i would tell you is that that is just one— what i would tell you is that that is just one data point and ttere— that is just one data point and ttere rre— that is just one data point and there are more— that is just one data point and there are more there are more trtr— there are more there are more trtr trtete— there are more there are more data points than— there are more there are more data points than that that we trve—sr- data points than that that we have—so right- data points than that that we have so right now, have to look at. so right now, we eretteue— have to look at. so right now, we continue to— have to look at. so right now, we continue to search and we'll trve— we continue to search and we'll trve ttrt— we continue to search and we'll have that later— we continue to search and we'll have that later this heard the erteee-tru— have that later this heard the noises-how-did- have that later this heard the noises how did they noises and how often did they terr— — noises and how often did they terr— tutt- noises and how often did they hear_ just give. hear the noises? just give us any— hear the noises? just give us any specifics. sure. are any more specifics. sure. are there morning? they have 30 there this morning? they have 30 minute intervals. just give a minute intervals. just give us a call specifics. so the report so ttrt— call specifics. so the report so ttrt tte— call specifics. so the report so that the noises— call specifics. so the report so that the noises were - rtfttt t �*" rt»; so the report so that the noises were heard rtfttt t �*" rt; so the report so that the noises were heard by a crerttre— that the noises were heard by a crerttre t—e— that the noises were heard by a crerttre t—e .— that the noises were heard by a canadian p—3 , and that was this canadian p—3, and that was this rerreter— canadian p—3, and that was this rerreter ret— canadian p—3, and that was this morning and some— canadian p—3, and that was this morning and some yesterday . morning and some yesterday. i tre-t— morning and some yesterday. i tre-t tert— morning and some yesterday. i don't know specifically- morning and some yesterday. don't know specifically over that 30 minute intervals. but again, i really think the important point to that is that we're in the air. we're

searching there. we moved assets and we're searching there at and we'll continue to do so . good . we'll continue to do so. good. to this yet. but is the vessel tteett— to this yet. but is the vessel tteett utrt— to this yet. but is the vessel itself what do— to this yet. but is the vessel itself what do you— grliile but is the vessel itself what do you like that is returtty— itself what do you like that is actually still— itself what do you like that is actually still operable at this tree— actually still operable at this ttree tte— actually still operable at this time the vessel— actually still operable at this time the vessel itself. yeah i tre-t— time the vessel itself. yeah i tre-t se— time the vessel itself. yeah i don't so listen— time the vessel itself. yeah i don't so listen whether it's rterrtte— don't so listen whether it's rterrtte rr— don't so listen whether it's operable or whether it's sitting on operable or whether it's sitting re tte— operable or whether it's sitting re tte ere— operable or whether it's sitting on the ocean floor— operable or whether it's sitting on the ocean floor or whether tte— on the ocean floor or whether tt-e te— on the ocean floor or whether tt-e te tte— on the ocean floor or whether it's in the sea— on the ocean floor or whether it's in the sea column or utetter— it's in the sea column or whether it's— it's in the sea column or whether it's in- it's in the sea column or whether it's in the surface, you teee,— whether it's in the surface, you teru, tte— whether it's in the surface, you teru, tt-e rtt— whether it's in the surface, you know, it's all speculation . ' ri know, it's all speculation. and we're we're just— know, it's all speculation. and we're we're just not— know, it's all speculation. and we're we're just not in the business of speculation. we're in the business of searching and we're putting everything we can with the data. have to search with the data. we have to search for vessel. i think for the vessel. and i think we'll take we'll take one more question. ahead, sir. a bit question. go ahead, sir. a bit more about the role- question. go ahead, sir. a bit more about the role of- i cir; : . a bit more about the role of the navy ret— more about the role of the navy ret tte— more about the role of the navy and the assistance— more about the role of the navy and the assistance being trrvttet— and the assistance being trrvttet .— and the assistance being provided , as— and the assistance being provided , as well as the provided, as well as the eruttreeet— provided, as well as the equipment that would be deployed-— equipment that would be tettrret. — equipment that would be deployed. “rift" equipment that would be deployed. “43?" equipment that would be- deployed. yeah,.we asked for deployed. yeah, so we asked for some additional subsurface support and we got that through the navy , through a liaison the navy, through a liaison officer. he's just one of many

team members . and we're we're team members. and we're we're greatly appreciative of the british government and all the support they've given us. so i think the plan will be to do to do a daily like this. i'm not going to lock into that right now, but but we'll keep you informed and certainly if there's any major developments, i'll know. thank you i'll let you know. thank you very much. someone, please. submarines are assisting. thank you so much for attending- you so much for attending terry-e— you so much for attending today's briefing that will today's press briefing that will ereetute— today's press briefing that will conclude questions. conclude all questions. thank you.— conclude all questions. thank rru. ttere— conclude all questions. thank you. ttere you— conclude all questions. thank you. there you go. that's was captain frederick there. captain james frederick there. the latest update , press update the latest update, press update following the pattern that they did last night. of course, giving a 6:00 update. uk time, basically questions asked. there is this a rescue operation, a recovery operation? the message that i received loud and clear and perhaps you too, was that absolutely we should not lose optimism . we should not lose optimism. we should not lose hope. this is still very much a search operation. the size now of the scope and scale, twice the size of connecticut in terms

of the area being searched , not of the area being searched, not very conclusive in terms of the sounds that we reported hearing people saying it was essentially morse code, 30 minute intervals, not very tight in terms of confirming that, but just as you will have just been hearing. absolutely continuing to keep going. lots of conversations about oxygen levels. if you were watching this show last night, you will recall that at 6:00 last night, they did stay . there last night, they did stay. there were around 40, 41 hours of oxygen left by my calculations. that brings us up to about 17 hours as it stands now. but a bit of pushback there in that conference saying that that is not the only measure to continue . sorry to consider when it comes to this search operation. now, we're joined by former naval psychologist for the us navy , dr. justin d'arienzo . good navy, dr. justin d'arienzo. good evening to you. you are a former naval operator . sorry also as naval operator. sorry also as well. you've been involved when

it comes to the psychology erg of people going on some of these kind of missions. what do you think will be going through these people's minds now? they are experienced explorers, explorers and adventurers. i mean, how do you even try and keep spirits up and keep calm in these situations ? sure. so these situations? sure. so certainly these situations? sure. so eertrtetr vou— 7 sure. so certainly you mentioned these tertte— certainly you mentioned these tertte rre— certainly you mentioned these people are explorers and they are people are explorers and they tter— people are explorers and they ttet rre— people are explorers and they are they are the— people are explorers and they are they are the ten x people. i , tter— are they are the ten x people. i , ttey rre— are they are the ten x people. i mean , they are adventurers . they mean, they are adventurers. they are mean, they are adventurers. they eueeeeetut— mean, they are adventurers. they are successful business people . are successful business people. aet— are successful business people. and tter— are successful business people. and ttey trve— are successful business people. and they have they've been in many— and they have they've been in rerey high— and they have they've been in many high stakes— and they have they've been in many high stakes situations tetrre— many high stakes situations tetrre. se— many high stakes situations before. so these— many high stakes situations before. so these these people are before. so these these people tte— before. so these these people are like military— before. so these these people are like military operators , so are like military operators, so to are like military operators, so tr eter,— are like military operators, so tr etert, eve— are like military operators, so to speak, even though they're etvtttree— to speak, even though they're etvtttree re— to speak, even though they're civilians as so.— to speak, even though they're civilians as so. and thank errteeee— civilians as so. and thank goodness there- civilians as so. and thank goodness there are the best tertte— goodness there are the best reeete rtt— goodness there are the best people all looking for them, trr. — people all looking for them, trr. se— people all looking for them, toe. to tte— people all looking for them, too. so it's my— people all looking for them, too. so it's my belief that that erretterttre— too. so it's my belief that that combination of— too. so it's my belief that that combination of ,_ too. so it's my belief that that combination of, you too. so it's my belief that that combination of , you know, within combination of, you know, within ttrt— combination of, you know, within ttrt trrreutr— combination of, you know, within ttrt trrreutr .— combination of, you know, within that formula , there's the that formula, there's the arerteet— that formula, there's the greatest chance, chances of eurvtvrt— greatest chance, chances of survival here. _ greatest chance, chances of survival here. “rift" ' ri " survival here. yeah. and i mean, we're just hearing as well in terms of people they're asking

those officers that was giving the press updates , you know, how the press updates, you know, how can you retain the hope? what hope can you give to the families and the loved ones of these people currently lost at sea ? and i think that that is sea? and i think that that is a very tricky dynamic, isn't it? because you don't want to give too much hope, but likewise, you want to make sure that you maintain, know, enough hope maintain, you know, enough hope to keep going . well, how to keep people going. well, how do you manage that ? sure. so you do you manage that? sure. so you you want do you manage that? sure. so you you vret tr— do you manage that? sure. so you you want to make— do you manage that? sure. so you you want to make sure— do you manage that? sure. so you you want to make sure that- rir:::r ig m7 sure. so you you want to make sure that the trretttee— you want to make sure that the trretttee ret— you want to make sure that the families and the— you want to make sure that the families and the friends are rertetrteter— families and the friends are maintaining hope with action and vert— maintaining hope with action and vtrt ttrt— maintaining hope with action and what that means— maintaining hope with action and what that means is, you know, tte— what that means is, you know, tte trrteet— what that means is, you know, the hardest part— what that means is, you know, the hardest part here is dealing vttt— the hardest part here is dealing with uncertainty— the hardest part here is dealing with uncertainty and how do we tert— with uncertainty and how do we tert vttt— with uncertainty and how do we deal with uncertainty ? we well, deal with uncertainty? we well, we treue— deal with uncertainty? we well, we focus on what— deal with uncertainty? we well, we focus on what we can control in we focus on what we can control te ur— we focus on what we can control te ttvee— we focus on what we can control te ttvee .— we focus on what we can control in our lives . and— we focus on what we can control in our lives . and that means in our lives. and that means eteetter— in our lives. and that means eteettee tree— in our lives. and that means spending time together. that means exercising , and that means means exercising, and that means etrvter— means exercising, and that means etrvter .— means exercising, and that means etrvter , etrvter— means exercising, and that means staying , staying closely in staying, staying closely in communication with the search ret— communication with the search and rescue operators, too. so we are and rescue operators, too. so we vou— and rescue operators, too. so we vru teee,— and rescue operators, too. so we you know, we— and rescue operators, too. so we are you know, we have our thumb on are you know, we have our thumb re tte— are you know, we have our thumb re tte tutee— are you know, we have our thumb re tte tutee rt— are you know, we have our thumb on the pulse of what's happening- _ on the pulse of what's happening. so that's how people

can happening. so that's how people eurvtve— happening. so that's how people can survive and— happening. so that's how people can survive and make the best of the— can survive and make the best of ttte trrrrvter— can survive and make the best of this harrowing and— can survive and make the best of this harrowing and very dire etturttre— this harrowing and very dire situation. but— this harrowing and very dire situation. but certainly there is situation. but certainly there te tree.— situation. but certainly there te tree. aet— situation. but certainly there te tree. and .— situation. but certainly there is hope. and i think, you know , is hope. and i think, you know, the is hope. and i think, you know, tte ttrt— is hope. and i think, you know, the that coastguard capt finn, if the that coastguard capt finn, tt te— the that coastguard capt finn, tt te te— the that coastguard capt finn, if he is expressing hope, then we etrutt— if he is expressing hope, then we should also— if he is expressing hope, then we should also have hope because this we should also have hope because ttte te— we should also have hope because ttte te re— we should also have hope because this is an internationally coordinated— this is an internationally coordinated effort. i mean, with the coordinated effort. i mean, with tte treeet— coordinated effort. i mean, with the french navy,— coordinated effort. i mean, with the french navy, the canadian rettttrrv— the french navy, the canadian rettttrrv .— the french navy, the canadian rettttrrv , tte— the french navy, the canadian military , the us— the french navy, the canadian military , the us navy , all the military, the us navy, all the teet— military, the us navy, all the teet reeete— military, the us navy, all the best people are— military, the us navy, all the best people are looking for this eutreerettte— best people are looking for this submersible .— best people are looking for this submersible . well, indeed. submersible. well, indeed. errt— submersible. well, indeed. otrv. trret— submersible. well, indeed. okay. thank you— submersible. well, indeed. okay. thank you very- submersible. well, indeed. okay. thank you very much for your time. that is just dr. justin d'arienzo there with his thoughts. also keeping me company right through till 7:00 tonight. i've got lord daniel moylan alongside me and political commentator joe phillips as well. good evening to both of you. good evening. daniel, your thoughts on this situation? i mean, it's treetertter— situation? i mean, it's fascinating in- situation? i mean, it's fascinating in an- 7 i mean, it's fascinating in an awful way to tree— fascinating in an awful way to vrtet r— fascinating in an awful way to watch a potential— fascinating in an awful way to watch a potential tragedy unfold and watch a potential tragedy unfold ret tr— watch a potential tragedy unfold ret tr te— watch a potential tragedy unfold ret tr te er— watch a potential tragedy unfold and to be so helpless watching it and to be so helpless watching tt rt.— and to be so helpless watching tt rtt. aet— and to be so helpless watching tt rtt. and we— and to be so helpless watching it all. and we just— and to be so helpless watching it all. and we just all of us, i teet— it all. and we just all of us, i ant, tuet— it all. and we just all of us, i think, just keep— it all. and we just all of us, i think, just keep our optimism up

and think, just keep our optimism up ret trrv— think, just keep our optimism up rer trrv ttrt— think, just keep our optimism up and pray that they— think, just keep our optimism up and pray that they recover and tteee — and pray that they recover and rescue these people while ttev-re— rescue these people while they're still— rescue these people while they're still alive . “rift" they're still alive. yeah. i tte— they're still alive. yeah. i mean, it's just i mean, joe is i mean, it's just i mean, joe is i mean, the world is gripped. it really is to this. well, and we've really is to this. well, and trr— really is to this. well, and we've had this— well, and we've had this before, haven't we, michelle,— we've had this before, haven't we, michelle, with the boys in the we, michelle, with the boys in tte rve— we, michelle, with the boys in tte te— we, michelle, with the boys in the cave in thailand . you know, the cave in thailand. you know, trr— the cave in thailand. you know, we've had terrible— the cave in thailand. you know, we've had terrible things like the— we've had terrible things like ttte vvtere— we've had terrible things like this where sometimes there's teee— this where sometimes there's teee r— this where sometimes there's teee r happy_ this where sometimes there's been a happy ending, sometimes ttere— been a happy ending, sometimes ttere tree-t— been a happy ending, sometimes ttere tree-t .— been a happy ending, sometimes there hasn't. i'm— been a happy ending, sometimes there hasn't. i'm thinking of tte— there hasn't. i'm thinking of tte eteetv— there hasn't. i'm thinking of the cheeky rafiki , the boat that the cheeky rafiki, the boat that ertetzet— the cheeky rafiki, the boat that ertetzet te— the cheeky rafiki, the boat that capsized in the— the cheeky rafiki, the boat that capsized in the atlantic with a verv— capsized in the atlantic with a very young— capsized in the atlantic with a very vruer erevv— capsized in the atlantic with a very vruer r— capsized in the atlantic with a very young crew a few years ago, and— very young crew a few years ago, red tttttt— very young crew a few years ago, and philip hammond , the then and philip hammond, the then trrettte— and philip hammond, the then foreign secretary, was urged to eeet— foreign secretary, was urged to send helicopters— foreign secretary, was urged to send helicopters out . “rift" send helicopters out. yeah, utte— send helicopters out. yeah, vttte you-re— send helicopters out. yeah, while you're talking, by the way, joe, i'm just going to be playing on the screen just something that shows some context the depths context in terms of the depths that talking about. but that we're talking about. but just you're talking so carry just as you're talking so carry on. you know, they on. yeah. and you know, they eerrt— on. yeah. and you know, they search-never found. search and they never found revttter— search and they never found anything-know,- search and they never found anything know, for the anything and you know, for the trretttee— anything and you know, for the families, it's— anything and you know, for the families, it's terrible because you— families, it's terrible because vru-terv— families, it's terrible because you-know what- families, it's terrible because you know what happened. you never know what happened. rtre— you never know what happened. ttte te— you never know what happened. this is,.daniel_ you never know what happened. this is, daniel says, this is, as daniel says, i mean, vou— this is, as daniel says, i mean, vru—erreettterl you know, there's something errteerue— you know, there's something grotesque voyeuristic about us

vrtetter— grotesque voyeuristic about us vrtetter n— grotesque voyeuristic about us watching it, that— grotesque voyeuristic about us watching it, that it's almost uerert— watching it, that it's almost uerert .— watching it, that it's almost unreal, real. _ watching it, that it's almost unreal, real. but i do remember trey,— unreal, real. but i do remember martyr trey,— unreal, real. but i do remember martyr martyr rerev— unreal, real. but i do remember many, many, many years ago, teertee— many, many, many years ago, teertee agor— many, many, many years ago, decades ago, there was a eute— decades ago, there was a submarine that got stuck somewhere— submarine that got stuck somewhere .— submarine that got stuck somewhere . and there was some, somewhere. and there was some, you— somewhere. and there was some, you tervv— somewhere. and there was some, you tervv, tree— somewhere. and there was some, you know, long before they had the you know, long before they had tte ee— you know, long before they had tte errt— you know, long before they had the same sort of— you know, long before they had the same sort of technology that ttev-ve — the same sort of technology that ttev-ve rrt— the same sort of technology that they've got these— the same sort of technology that they've got these days. but, you teee,— they've got these days. but, you know, ttev-re — they've got these days. but, you know, they're doing everything ttev— know, they're doing everything ttev ere— know, they're doing everything ttev .— know, they're doing everything they can. i think,— know, they're doing everything they can. i think, you know, he rerte— they can. i think, you know, he rerte-eterr— they can. i think, you know, he made-clear to - they can. i think, you know, he made-clear to the- they can. i think, you know, he made clear to the person made it very clear to the person on made it very clear to the person re doing— made it very clear to the person re trter tte— made it very clear to the person on doing the press— made it very clear to the person on doing the press conference ttrt— on doing the press conference ttrt vru— on doing the press conference ttrt vru ere-t— on doing the press conference that you can't read too much tetr— that you can't read too much tetr tte— that you can't read too much into the noises— that you can't read too much into the noises .— that you can't read too much into the noises . you might like into the noises. you might like to into the noises. you might like tr tttet— into the noises. you might like tr tttet tte— into the noises. you might like to think it's sos— into the noises. you might like to think it's 505 ,_ into the noises. you might like to think it's sos , but all it's to think it's sos, but all it's tree— to think it's sos, but all it's tree te— to think it's sos, but all it's tree te give— to think it's sos, but all it's done is give them somewhere to true— done is give them somewhere to treue ttetr— done is give them somewhere to focus their search— done is give them somewhere to focus their search on. yeah and tre — focus their search on. yeah and tre tuet— focus their search on. yeah and tre tuet etrvter— focus their search on. yeah and i'm just showing some context on the i'm just showing some context on tte-teeruee— i'm just showing some context on the-because the- i'm just showing some context on the because the titanic, the screen because the titanic, the screen because the titanic, tte treet— the screen because the titanic, the wreck site— the screen because the titanic, the wreck site there it's tztoort. — the wreck site there it's 12,500ft. just- the wreck site there it's 12,500ft. the wreck site there it's- 12,500ft. just to put this into context, the statue of liberty , context, the statue of liberty, for example, is . 305 foot. and for example, is. 305 foot. and you can see some of these landmarks that you're passing on the screen and some of the depths that we're trying to reach in terms of metres, the titanic , 3810 metre is i mean, titanic, 3810 metre is i mean,

it's just incredible and it's just beyond the kind of , it's just incredible and it's just beyond the kind of, you know, when it comes to getting that context of just how deep this is. and this is going to be one of the challenges. it's one thing finding this vessel. but then, daniel, they've got to get it up again. and even that it back up again. and even that itself, getting back will itself, getting it back up will take hours do that take several hours to do that safely. will. and i have no safely. it will. and i have no exterttee— safely. it will. and i have no eveerttee te— safely. it will. and i have no expertise in this. _ safely. it will. and i have no expertise in this. but- e it and i have no expertise in this. but but eterrtv— expertise in this. but but clearly there's- expertise in this. but but clearly there's the possibility it's clearly there's the possibility tt-e trrerret— clearly there's the possibility it's damaged in— clearly there's the possibility it's damaged in some way and treeurerttv— it's damaged in some way and presumably it's— it's damaged in some way and presumably it's lost its communications and it could be trrerret— communications and it could be trrerret te— communications and it could be damaged in other— communications and it could be damaged in other ways . so it damaged in other ways. so it retrtt— damaged in other ways. so it retrtt te— damaged in other ways. so it might be difficult to get up. vert— might be difficult to get up. yeah, indeed.— might be difficult to get up. yeah, indeed. you— might be difficult to get up. yeah, indeed. you know,- might be difficult to get up. yeah, indeed. you know, i was hoping actually that that 6:00 press might have press conference might have brought news to us brought some positive news to us all. but alas, not the search does continue. the second, there is any development in that story, we will, of course, bring that live to you here at gb news. don't go anywhere

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gb news radio show. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry live with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me, tory peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan and political commentator joe phillips. welcome back, everybody. now, you might have seen what's been going on today. london hospital have been reports of two people being stabbed there and a man arrested. let's cross live to our reporter lisa hartle who is there on the scene. lisa, good evening . what can you tell us? evening. what can you tell us? hello. yes at around 1:20 this afternoon, police received a call reporting that two people had been stabbed here when they armed. police arrived on the ttev— armed. police arrived on the scene, they found— : police arrived on the scene, they found two people vttt — scene, they found two people vttt etrt— scene, they found two people with stab wounds, both taken to tretttrt. — with stab wounds, both taken to tretttrt. eee— with stab wounds, both taken to hospital. one believed to be in life threatening— hospital. one believed to be in life threatening and life threatening— life threatening and life threatening condition. a man was rter— threatening condition. a man was rter rrreetet— threatening condition. a man was also arrested who's— threatening condition. a man was also arrested who's suspected of errrvter— also arrested who's suspected of errrvtea rut— also arrested who's suspected of errrvtea rut tte— also arrested who's suspected of carrying out the attacks, was rrreetet— carrying out the attacks, was arrested outside _ carrying out the attacks, was arrested outside the hospital. ue-e— arrested outside the hospital. ue-e rter— arrested outside the hospital. he's also been— arrested outside the hospital. he's also been sent to hospital. tter— he's also been sent to hospital. ater vttt— he's also been sent to hospital. also with life— he's also been sent to hospital. also with life threatening teturtee— also with life threatening teturtee .— also with life threatening injuries , though the police say injuries, though the police say ttrt— injuries, though the police say ttrt tteee— injuries, though the police say that these they— injuries, though the police say that these they believe these are that these they believe these eett. — that these they believe these are self. now— that these they believe these are self. now we— that these they believe these are self. now we spoke to a man vtr— are self. now we spoke to a man vtr errt— are self. now we spoke to a man vtr ertt te— are self. now we spoke to a man who said he witnessed part of

the who said he witnessed part of tte rttret— who said he witnessed part of the attack earlier— who said he witnessed part of the attack earlier . we've got a the attack earlier. we've got a ett— the attack earlier. we've got a ettt tr— the attack earlier. we've got a etre tr ttrt— the attack earlier. we've got a clip to play from _ the attack earlier. we've got a clip to play from him now about tru— clip to play from him now about trv te— clip to play from him now about trv te tett— clip to play from him now about how he felt having— clip to play from him now about how he felt having seen what he saw . shocked,— how he felt having seen what he saw . shocked, really,- how he felt having seen what he saw . "r;;ttgr how he felt having seen what he saw . saw. shocked, really, just to see obviously just to be this close to an incident like this is quite shocking, really. this afternoon, we just see him come running out the side of the building with a pickaxe in his hand, chasing 2—2 people, which we were two that we thought were two lads that done incriminating done something incriminating inside hospital hence inside the hospital. hence that's was him. that's why he was chasing him. so have approached so that's why we have approached him make he okay at him to make sure he was okay at that time. he's coming towards us axe he's us swinging his axe and he's just it's none of our just told us it's none of our business. of our way. so business. get out of our way. so i kindly stepped out of his way and he's just gone and done what he's done. so that eyewitness w...— he's done. so that eyewitness ttere-ttrt— he's done. so that eyewitness there,-that originally. there, he said that originally he there, he said that originally te-rutette— there, he said that originally he outside having his lunch. he was outside having his lunch. ue-e— he was outside having his lunch. ue-e-vrrtter— he was outside having his lunch. he's-working in— he was outside having his lunch. he's-working in the- he's been working in the tretttrt— he's been working in the hospital and— he's been working in the hospital and he saw two men teter— hospital and he saw two men being etreet— hospital and he saw two men being chased around the car park by being chased around the car park tv ttte— being chased around the car park tv ttte rere— being chased around the car park by this man with— being chased around the car park by this man with a— being chased around the car park by this man with a pickaxe. the tur— by this man with a pickaxe. the two eee— by this man with a pickaxe. the two men ran off.— by this man with a pickaxe. the two men ran off. the eye witness ttee— two men ran off. the eye witness ttee ttrurtt— two men ran off. the eye witness then thought that— two men ran off. the eye witness then thought that the guy with then thought that the guy with tte pretre— then thought that the guy with the pickaxe, the— then thought that the guy with the pickaxe, the man the the pickaxe, the man with the ttetrve— the pickaxe, the man with the ttetrve trt — the pickaxe, the man with the pickaxe had - but- the pickaxe, the man with the pickaxe had but then pickaxe had left, but he then erv—vttt- pickaxe had left, but he then saw _with the - pickaxe had left, but he then. saw _with the pickaxe saw him return with the pickaxe rrrte— saw him return with the pickaxe rrrte ret— saw him return with the pickaxe rorte red 90— saw him return with the pickaxe again and go into— saw him return with the pickaxe again and go into hospital again and go into the hospital etreter— again and go into the hospital etreter tte— again and go into the hospital chasing the men— again and go into the hospital

chasing the men in there. which is chasing the men in there. which tevve-— chasing the men in there. which is-we believe— chasing the men in there. which is-we believe two- chasing the men in there. which is we believe two men were is where we believe two men were etrttet— is where we believe two men were etrttet .— is where we believe two men were etrttet . er— is where we believe two men were stabbed . so police— is where we believe two men were stabbed . so police say that they stabbed. so police say that they tre-t— stabbed. so police say that they tre-t tetteve— stabbed. so police say that they don't believe that— stabbed. so police say that they don't believe that this is terror— don't believe that this is terror related— don't believe that this is terror related .- don't believe that this is terror related . and the hospital terror related. and the hospital was evacuated _ terror related. and the hospital was evacuated earlier and shut tevve.— was evacuated earlier and shut trve. ttrt— was evacuated earlier and shut down. that that's— was evacuated earlier and shut down. that that's now reopened. at tte— down. that that's now reopened. at tte tteee— down. that that's now reopened. at tte ttee .— down. that that's now reopened. at the time . obviously, it at the time. obviously, it ueet— at the time. obviously, it ueet r— at the time. obviously, it caused a lot— at the time. obviously, it caused a lot of- at the time. obviously, it caused a lot of panic, lots of tertte— caused a lot of panic, lots of reeete vvree— caused a lot of panic, lots of people were reported to be rueeter— people were reported to be running from _ people were reported to be running from the hospital, but tette— running from the hospital, but trttee erv— running from the hospital, but trttee erv ttrt— running from the hospital, but police say that they are going to police say that they are going tr eretteue— police say that they are going to continue their— police say that they are going to continue their investigation tter— to continue their investigation tter-ttret- to continue their investigation lisa-thank you- to continue their investigation lisa-thank you veryl to continue their investigation- lisa-thank you very much lisa hartle. thank you very much for that update . i've got to for that update. i've got to say, when i was watching this unfold, i've seen lots of the footage online, daniel, one of the things that really struck me is that when you go to the hospital, you are literally at your vulnerable lots of your most vulnerable in lots of ways. you're certainly ways. when you're certainly staying definitely and it staying there. definitely and it always makes me think about attacks within hospitals . attacks within hospitals. there's something about it that makes me kind of, you know, of course , any attack is sad and course, any attack is sad and tragic , but when it's in a place tragic, but when it's in a place where you're supposed safe where you're supposed to be safe and rest of it for me, and all the rest of it for me, there's something even worse about that. and i think about that. and then i think about that. and then i think about the about all of the workers, the frontline workers that get

attacked as well, attacked in hospitals as well, and or not we do enough and whether or not we do enough to take all that seriously. what do you think? well, you're rtrtt. — do you think? well, you're rtott. .vvrv— do you think? well, you're rtott. .vvrv ve- rir;r “

you had to somebody stopped. you rer—verrter- you had to somebody stopped. you rer—uerrter rl and checked you were wearing a reret. — and checked you were wearing a reret. aet— and checked you were wearing a reret. aer er— and checked you were wearing a mask. and so on.— and checked you were wearing a mask. and so on. so maybe there eeete— mask. and so on. so maybe there eeete tr— mask. and so on. so maybe there eeete tr te— mask. and so on. so maybe there needs to be _checks- mask. and so on. so maybe there needs to be checks on going needs to be some checks on going in. needs to be some checks on going rer-— needs to be some checks on going te-r-rrrt— needs to be some checks on going te-r-rrrt trret- needs to be some checks on going te-r-rrrt trret. - in. that's a very good point. aeturttv— in. that's a very good point. arturo-ttr— in. that's a very good point. actually-did indeed- in. that's a very good point. actually. did indeed stop actually. they did indeed stop you within second of you within a within a second of crossing threshold . if you crossing that threshold. if you didn't a on, were be didn't have a mask on, were be you, do megxit you, what do you megxit joe well, think, you know, well, i think, as you know, michelle, one of my sons is a paramedic. and so, you know, ert tuet— paramedic. and so, you know, we're not just talking- : rt. and so, you know, we're not just talking about tertte— we're not just talking aboutj tertte—eettter we're not just talking about. tertte—eettter . people in a hospital setting. rve-re— people in a hospital setting. vve-re-rtrut- people in a hospital setting. we're about people going we're talking about people going to we're talking about people going tr—aet— we're talking about people going tr—aet te— we're talking about people going tr—aet te tre- we're talking about people going to and he has been to an incident. and he has been reeruttet— to an incident. and he has been assaulted-attacked- to an incident. and he has been assaulted attacked quite assaulted and attacked quite vtrteettv,— assaulted and attacked quite vtrteettv, re— assaulted and attacked quite violently, as have his crew rertee— violently, as have his crew rertee .— violently, as have his crew mates , aukus.- violently, as have his crew mates , aukus. and, you know , mates, aukus. and, you know, vvtetter— mates, aukus. and, you know, vtetter vr-rue— mates, aukus. and, you know, whether you're a _ mates, aukus. and, you know, whether you're a paramedic, vtetter— whether you're a paramedic, whether you're— whether you're a paramedic, whether you're a— whether you're a paramedic, whether you're a nurse, whether vr-rue— whether you're a nurse, whether vr-rue r— whether you're a nurse, whether vrure r rertee— whether you're a nurse, whether you're a porter, whether you're on you're a porter, whether you're re reeetttre— you're a porter, whether you're re reeetttre rr— you're a porter, whether you're on reception or you just happen to on reception or you just happen tr te— on reception or you just happen tr te r— on reception or you just happen tr te r terere— on reception or you just happen to be a person in— on reception or you just happen to be a person in a&e waiting vttt— to be a person in a&e waiting vttt vrur— to be a person in a&e waiting with your sick— to be a person in a&e waiting with your sick child or something,— with your sick child or something, you know, violence is trrrttte— something, you know, violence is horrible wherever— something, you know, violence is horrible wherever it— something, you know, violence is horrible wherever it happens. tut— horrible wherever it happens. tut tre— horrible wherever it happens. but i'm afraid— horrible wherever it happens. but i'm afraid you know these vett— but i'm afraid you know these vett tre— but i'm afraid you know these well, i'm afraid— but i'm afraid you know these well, i'm afraid in— but i'm afraid you know these well, i'm afraid in a good way. tteee— well, i'm afraid in a good way. these incidents— well, i'm afraid in a good way. these incidents are very rare . these incidents are very rare. tru— these incidents are very rare. vru teee,— these incidents are very rare. you know, vou— these incidents are very rare. you know, you are- these incidents are very rare. you know, you are more likely to erreettter— you know, you are more likely to see something like— you know, you are more likely to see something like this or be a tteee— see something like this or be a etree tr— see something like this or be a close to something like this rutette— close to something like this rutette r— close to something like this outside a pub— close to something like this outside a pub on a friday or

srturtrv— outside a pub on a friday or saturday night— outside a pub on a friday or saturday night or somewhere like ttrt.— saturday night or somewhere like ttrt. ba,— saturday night or somewhere like ttrt. on, vou— saturday night or somewhere like that. but, you know , you think that. but, you know, you think rtrut— that. but, you know, you think rtrut reeete— that. but, you know, you think about people in— that. but, you know, you think about people in shops for oreteeee— about people in shops for goodness sake. - about people in shops for goodness sake. always goodness sake. we are always eeeter— goodness sake. we are always eeeteo treroee— goodness sake. we are always seeing images of— goodness sake. we are always seeing images of people doing errt— seeing images of people doing errt rt— seeing images of people doing sort of violent— seeing images of people doing sort of violent shoplifting and ttrerteeter— sort of violent shoplifting and threatening or— sort of violent shoplifting and threatening or attacking people. so, threatening or attacking people. so, you— threatening or attacking people. so you tert— threatening or attacking people. so you know, we— threatening or attacking people. so, you know, we can't all go rruet— so, you know, we can't all go rruet te— so, you know, we can't all go around in kevlar— so, you know, we can't all go around in kevlar vests . this is around in kevlar vests. this is true.— around in kevlar vests. this is true. aer,— around in kevlar vests. this is true. aer, vru— around in kevlar vests. this is true. and, you know , you can true. and, you know, you can etrt— true. and, you know, you can etre pewter— true. and, you know, you can etre peopler tut— true. and, you know, you can stop people, but what are you going— stop people, but what are you going tr— stop people, but what are you going tr etre— stop people, but what are you going to stop them for? are you errrvter— going to stop them for? are you errrvteo re— going to stop them for? are you carrying an offensive weapon? tru— carrying an offensive weapon? you knew,— carrying an offensive weapon? you know, ret— carrying an offensive weapon? you know, and don't forget, one of you know, and don't forget, one rt tte— you know, and don't forget, one rt tte otter— you know, and don't forget, one of the other problems which we've talked— of the other problems which we've talked about this we've talked about on this errorrreree— we've talked about on this- errorrreree—tervv programme before is, you know, you trve— programme before is, you know, you trve rrt— programme before is, you know, you have got people mental you have got people with mental terttt—rre— you have got people with mental health—are often- you have got people with mental health—are often in,. health issues who are often in, you— health issues who are often in, you tert— health issues who are often in, you know, picked— health issues who are often in, you know, picked up by ambulances— you know, picked up by ambulances or for whatever rereretet— ambulances or for whatever reason, find themselves in a tretttrt— reason, find themselves in a hospital setting— reason, find themselves in a hospital setting because there's ervveret— hospital setting because there's ervveret etee— hospital setting because there's nowhere else for— hospital setting because there's nowhere else for them to go. and ttrt— nowhere else for them to go. and ttrt rrte— nowhere else for them to go. and ttrt rrte r— nowhere else for them to go. and that adds a greater— nowhere else for them to go. and that adds a greater stress and etrrte— that adds a greater stress and etrrte tr— that adds a greater stress and etrrte tr tte— that adds a greater stress and strain to the staff— that adds a greater stress and strain to the staff working ttere. — strain to the staff working there. yeah,— strain to the staff working there. yeah, i— strain to the staff working there. “r;;“ rir;r“ e strain to the staff working- there. yeah, i don't know about you guys at home and obviously this is an ongoing legal case, this is an ongoing legal case, this particular so i can't this particular one, so i can't comment too much on the specifics what we do specifics of it, but what we do know a fellow with a know is that a fellow with a pickaxe and this is in the middle of the day, i really do feel that this country is

getting out of control when it comes to violence. i mean, did it really used to be like this? did we used to have all these instances where people in the middle of the day, broad daylight and knives, daylight with axes and knives, did it used to be like that? am i getting old? because it feels to me like it's just getting worse and worse out there. what do think? vaiews@gbnews.com do you think? vaiews@gbnews.com is want to is how you reach me. i want to bfing is how you reach me. i want to bring of your thoughts in bring some of your thoughts in in just a couple of minutes. but i want to talk to you about i also want to talk to you about the let's the state of the economy. let's face it, it's not working in many, many ways. blame many, many ways. who's to blame and what do we do about it ? i'll and what do we do about it? i'll see

on gb news. the people's channel trttrte— on gb news. the people's channel trttrte te— on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching— on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching .— on gb news. the people's channel britain is watching . britain is watching. hello there. welcome- britain is watching. “r;”r; welcome back to dewbs& there. welcome back to dewbs& co. there. welcome back to dewbs& cr. tutt— there. welcome back to dewbs& to. vet ree— “r;”r; welcome back to dewbs& co. with me, michelle juburi rtrerette— co. with me, michelle juburi alongside me,— co. with me, michelle juburi alongside me, the tory peer in the alongside me, the tory peer in tte uruee— alongside me, the tory peer in tte uruee rt— alongside me, the tory peer in the house of lords, daniel trrvtre— the house of lords, daniel rrrvtre ret— the house of lords, daniel moylan and the political commentator— moylan and the political commentator joe phillips. moylan and the political commentatorjoe phillips. good evening-— commentatorjoe phillips. good evening. welcome— commentatorjoe phillips. good evening. welcome back to evervtrtv— evening. welcome back to everybody there. now i was retrea— everybody there. now i was retteo vru— everybody there. now i was retteo your tr— everybody there. now i was asking you, do you think the vrrtt— asking you, do you think the vrrtt te— asking you, do you think the

world is getting— asking you, do you think the world is getting a little bit more violent— world is getting a little bit more violent or— world is getting a little bit more violent or let's just hone in more violent or let's just hone te tere. — more violent or let's just hone te tere. tte— more violent or let's just hone in here. the uk,— more violent or let's just hone in here. the uk, i— more violent or let's just hone in here. the uk, i think it does annea— in here. the uk, i think it does divided, though,— in here. the uk, i think it does divided, though, some of you ervter— divided, though, some of you ervteo returttv— divided, though, some of you saying actually when you look trek— saying actually when you look back-various— saying actually when you look back various points in back at various points in metro,— back at various points in haw-was- back at various points in history,-was a- back at various points ini history,-was a.of history, there was a lot of etrree— history, there was a lot of ret— history, there was a lot of crime and violence, perhaps erert— crime and violence, perhaps eretrt reettr— crime and violence, perhaps social media, though, makes us retro-et— social media, though, makes us rerrr-et tt— social media, though, makes us more _to it because - social media, though, makes us more to it because i've more aware to it because i've rrt— more aware to it because i've ert tr— more aware to it because i've ert tr-vvtttte— more aware to it because i've got to within seconds of got to say, within seconds of there— got to say, within seconds ofi tttere—trve got to say, within seconds of- tttere—trve vru things happening these days, you can things happening these days, you ere-rr— things happening these days, you ere-er ont...- things happening these days, you can-go online, go- things happening these days, you can go online, go on to can you can go online, go on to erert— can you can go online, go on to eretrt reettr— can you can go online, go on to social media - see - can you can go online, go on to social media-see it- social media and see it uetrttter— social media and see it unfolding right in front of your eye— unfolding right in front of your evee ttee.— unfolding right in front of your eyes often. what's up there, toure— eyes often. what's up there, thoughrln0t_ eyes often. what's up there, though, not factually though, is not factually accurate. turns out to be accurate. it turns out to be some random thing in a different country— country from god knows before. so country from god knows before. so vr-uve— country from god knows before. so vr-uve rrt— country from god knows before. so vr-uve ert tr— country from god knows before. so you've got to be careful with ttrt— so you've got to be careful with ttrt etutt— so you've got to be careful with that stuff. but— so you've got to be careful with that stuff. but you _ so you've got to be careful with that stuff. but you me, that stuff. but you tell me, tree— that stuff. but you tell me, tree tt— that stuff. but you tell me, does it feel— that stuff. but you tell me, does it feel like _ that stuff. but you tell me, does it feel like the world, the uk does it feel like the world, the ut te— does it feel like the world, the ut te getter— does it feel like the world, the uk is getting violent uk is getting more violent to true— uk is getting more violent to true-vou— uk is getting more violent to true-vru vtrt- uk is getting more violent to you? you what might you? i'll tell you what it might teet— you? i'll tell you what it might teet tte— you? i'll tell you what it might teet tte tr— you? i'll tell you what it might feel like to you— you? i'll tell you what it might feel like to you as— you? i'll tell you what it might feel like to you as well that tte— feel like to you as well that tte etrte — feel like to you as well that the state of— feel like to you as well that the state of this— feel like to you as well that the state of this economy in the— the state of this economy in ttte-rtrtt— the state of this economy in this-right now,- the state of this economy in this right now, it's not this country right now, it's not erert.— this country right now, it's not erert-teete- this country right now, it's noti great-people-sayv this country right now, it's not. great.-people-say, of great. many people would say, of course,-inflation,_ great. many people would say, of course, inflation, 16.5. we course, food inflation, 16.5. we knew— course, food inflation, 16.5. we teee-ttrt— course, food inflation, 16.5. we teee-ttrt te— course, food inflation, 16.5. we know that is spiralling . know that that is spiralling. vr-uve— know that that is spiralling. vr-uve rrt— know that that is spiralling. you've got mortgage holders. we knew— you've got mortgage holders. we terv-vrur— you've got mortgage holders. we know-your rates— you've got mortgage holders. we know-your rates are- know that your rates are rtertutetv— know that your rates are absolutely-.. know that your rates are. absolutely-. and know that your rates are- absolutely-. and of absolutely spiralling. and of ut— absolutely spiralling. and of course, uk inflation stuck at eete— course, uk inflation stuck at eete re— course, uk inflation stuck at eete re vett. — course, uk inflation stuck at 8.7% as well. those figures out terry,— 8.7% as well. those figures out todayv rerev— 8.7% as well. those figures out today, many people , lord moylan

today, many people, lord moylan ervter— today, many people, lord moylan ervteo ttrt— today, many people, lord moylan ervteo ttrt tr— today, many people, lord moylan saying that to them it does feel tte— saying that to them it does feel tte tte — saying that to them it does feel like the economy— saying that to them it does feel like the economy is broken and damagedv_ like the economy is broken and damagedr ttrt— like the economy is broken and damaged, that their pockets rerttv— damaged, that their pockets rerttv rre— damaged, that their pockets really are being— damaged, that their pockets really are being hit. do you rtree— really are being hit. do you roree vvttt— really are being hit. do you agree with that? do you think rrt— agree with that? do you think ert r— agree with that? do you think we've got a healthy economy rtrtt— we've got a healthy economy rtrtt ervv— we've got a healthy economy rtott e — we've got a healthy economy right now ? well,- we've got a healthy economy right now ? �*vvr�*r;tt right now? well, overall, the economy is still very, very slowly growing and we're not in recession. that's the way it is at the moment. but we have a major inflation crisis . we have major inflation crisis. we have allowed to inflation get out of control. the people responsible for inflation in this country and for managing it are the bank of england that's been outsourced to them since 1997, and they have instead of controlling inflation, they have printed money and the result is inflation. the only solution that they're going to have at their disposal to combating it, i'm afraid, is higher interest rates. and so we are heading for a very, very bad time, both in people's pockets and possibly even they could tip us into recession as they do this. and in my view, the reason they've

got it wrong is that a belief has grown up and all governments have shared this. from 2008 onwards, labour , the onwards, labour, the conservative, liberal, lib dem government and then the conservatives , as that's what conservatives, as that's what we've had over those years . we've had over those years. they've all shared this idea that when you are faced with a recession, you in some way somehow your way out of somehow spend your way out of it. whereas sometimes it's better no, we're going better to say, no, we're going to have to take a step backwards in order to get growth in order to get good growth coming out of it. and that's what we haven't had. we've had pretty growth those pretty well no growth over those years, but we've trundled along on easy money going nowhere. yeah. and what do you there do you— yeah. and what do you there do you teet— yeah. and what do you there do you teet tte— yeah. and what do you there do you feel like we're— yeah. and what do you there do you feel like we're in a good etrte— you feel like we're in a good etrte-tte— you feel like we're in a good shape the moment? i'm shape at the moment? i'm truotter— shape at the moment? i'm laughing because know laughing because i don't know revree—erv- laughing because i don't know revree—erv ve- laughing because i don't know. anyone—say we are. anyone that would say we are. n..— anyone that would say we are. velvete— anyone that would say we are. urlve-re ert.— anyone that would say we are. no,-we're not. and- anyone that would say we are. no,-we're not. and you- anyone that would say we are. i no,-we're not. and you know, no, no, we're not. and you know, the thing is the other thing is that government at government debt is at the highest that been highest that it's ever been since, i think, 1961. you know, there are many factors here. i do slightly agree with daniel that the bank of england were too slow to raise interest rates when things were beginning to get a bit tricksy. and that

obviously , you know, people will obviously, you know, people will blame covid and people will blame covid and people will blame the war in ukraine. and it's undeniable that those two events have had a huge impact. i mean, the war in ukraine has had a huge impact on food prices. yeah, but inflation was yeahj but inflation was already yeah, but inflation was already at yeah, but inflation was already rt rtrut— yeah, but inflation was already at about inflation. t/r;~; r;;,t

behaving, because we've talked before, michel, about, you know, greed , flation, prices might be greed, flation, prices might be coming down, but they're not being passed on yet. and i know people will say, oh, well, we've got contracts and we've got this, that and the other, but it's this inflation, which it's this core inflation, which is food , it's not tobacco, is not food, it's not tobacco, it's not alcohol and energy pfices it's not alcohol and energy prices have come down quite considerably . they're still considerably. they're still higher than they were. but that has helped. but if that hadn't happened and or, you know, something happens to make energy pfices something happens to make energy prices go up again , we're going prices go up again, we're going to back to square one. so to be back to square one. so we're in a very good state we're not in a very good state at and we'll be at all. yeah. and we'll be talking about this tomorrow as well. of because that's well. of course, because that's tte— well. of course, because that's tte-tertret— of course, because that's the england decision the bank of england decision on the bank of england decision on tte-trttee— the bank of england decision on the happen tomorrow . the rates will happen tomorrow. aet— the rates will happen tomorrow. and-fascinated.— the rates will happen tomorrow. and fascinated. i'll be in and i'm fascinated. i'll be in trreetev.— and i'm fascinated. i'll be in bamsiey--me- and i'm fascinated. i'll be in. barnsley.-me-and barnsley. they let me out and rtrut— barnsley. they let me out and rtrut-vtrt- barnsley. they let me out and rtrut-vtrt r- barnsley. they let me out and about what a treat. about everyone. what a treat. i'll about everyone. what a treat. t-tt-trreetev— about everyone. what a treat. i'll barnsley tomorrow i'll be in barnsley tomorrow trttter— i'll be in barnsley tomorrow trttter tr— i'll be in barnsley tomorrow talking to the— i'll be in barnsley tomorrow talking to the good yorkshire tett— talking to the good yorkshire trtt ttere — talking to the good yorkshire folk there and _ talking to the good yorkshire folk there and getting thoughts rtrut— folk there and getting thoughts. rtrut—tertte about whether or not many people will say it's time for intervention- will say it's time for intervention to out intervention to help out rerrtoroe— intervention to help out mortgage owners. but if you tttet— mortgage owners. but if you tttet .— mortgage owners. but if you think i mean,— mortgage owners. but if you think i mean, i've got to say, i tre-t— think i mean, i've got to say, i tre-t rtree— think i mean, i've got to say, i don't agree with— think i mean, i've got to say, i don't agree with this massively ttuet— don't agree with this massively blunt—increasingl blunt instrument of increasing

tteee— blunt instrument of increasing tteee-tte- blunt instrument of increasing these _the reason. blunt instrument of increasing these the reason that these rates, but the reason that ttev-re—vruttl they're doing it, they would rruer— they're doing it, they would rrue te— they're doing it, they would rue teltrv— they're doing it, they would argue, isltry and- they're doing it, they would argue, is try and take money argue, is to try and take money out argue, is to try and take money rut rt— argue, is to try and take money out of-economy,_ argue, is to try and take money out of economy, make it out of the economy, make it ttrtter—sr- out of the economy, make iti tighter—so there's tighter for people. so there's teee— tighter for people. so there's teee eret— tighter for people. so there's less cash sloshing around. and if less cash sloshing around. and tt—ttte- less cash sloshing around. and if_this situation| if you then have this situation trrre— if you then have this situation from-government- if you then have this situation from government whoever from the government or whoever to from the government or whoever tr—tret- from the government or whoever tr—tret tetr- to put that money back into tteee— to put that money back into those homeowners pockets, then tee-t— those homeowners pockets, then tent—tte- those homeowners pockets, then isn't—the object. isn't that defeating the object 7 isn't that defeating the object e-ttee— isn't that defeating the object ?-then around- isn't that defeating the object ? then around and around ? because then around and around and ? because then around and around rer-ve— ? because then around and around rer-we re.— ? because then around and around rer-we re. se— ? because then around and around and we go. so what's the and around we go. so what's the reevverrer—tl and around we go. so what's the. rrrevverrer—t vru answer then? well, and also, you can't know, it would be can't you know, it would be grossly unfair for to help out mortgage were when you mortgage holders were when you you know, we already know and there have been figures out this week about proportion of week about the proportion of income is being spent on income that is being spent on rent and is making it rent and rent is making it absolutely impossible for so many people. to you know, but then the flip side of that will be the flip side. if there's retere— be the flip side. if there's renters watching - rir; if there's renters watching this, what ttev-tt— renters watching this, what ttev-tt-ree- renters watching this, what they'll-one of - renters watching this, what they'll one of the they'll say is one of the reasons that— they'll say is one of the reasons that rents are ettrrttter— reasons that rents are spiralling out of control is teruee— spiralling out of control is because landlords putting because landlords are putting ttetr—ttetri their prices up, because their rrtee— their prices up, because their rates-increasing. - their prices up, because their rates increasing. so rates are increasing. so returttv,— rates are increasing. so actually,-help. rates are increasing. so actually, help those actually, if you help those rerrtrrre— actually, if you help those. mortgage _those mortgage owners, help those trrrttrrte— mortgage owners, help those landlords,-that- mortgage owners, help those landlords, that trickle landlords, and that will trickle ttrrurt—terttel through to the rental people. tut— through to the rental people. tut vou— through to the rental people. tut vru tett— through to the rental people. but you tell me— through to the rental people. but you tell me at home, what do you tttet— but you tell me at home, what do you tttetlrrter— but you tell me at home, what do you think-going to— but you tell me at home, what do you think going to happen you think is going to happen trrerrrrvv— you think is going to happen tomorrow? discussing it tomorrow? we'll be discussing it liver— tomorrow? we'll be discussing it we, or— tomorrow? we'll be discussing it live, of course,— tomorrow? we'll be discussing it live, of course, once does live, of course, once it does

trttee. — live, of course, once it does trttee. _tr- live, of course, once it does trttee. _tr vrul live, of course, once it does- happen. _do you think? happen. but what do you think? strutt— happen. but what do you think? strut—te- happen. but what do you think? should be another should should there be another rrte—t- should should there be another rrte—t vvruttl should should there be anotheri rate—i would say rate rise? you know, i would say no, rate rise? you know, i would say tut— rate rise? you know, i would say tut tertrte— rate rise? you know, i would say no, but perhaps you would tterrree— no, but perhaps you would tterrree-t- no, but perhaps you would disagree-i want. no, but perhaps you would. disagree-i want your disagree with me. i want your ttrurtte. — disagree with me. i want your ttrurtte. .t-re— disagree with me. i want your thoughts. i'm looking thoughts. and i'm looking trrerr— thoughts. and i'm looking forward discussing one forward to discussing that one vvttt— forward to discussing that one vttt-vvett. — forward to discussing that one with well. tomorrow but with you as well. tomorrow but for with you as well. tomorrow but tor—tteee- for tonight, though, there's a lot for tonight, though, there's a trtlvret— for tonight, though, there's a trtlvret tr— for tonight, though, there's a lot want to respond not lot i want to respond to, not teret— lot i want to respond to, not teret. .— lot i want to respond to, not teret. . vvre— lot i want to respond to, not least. i was in— lot i want to respond to, not least. i was in the headlines terry.— least. i was in the headlines trtrv—ve- least. i was in the headlines trtrv—ve trtl least. i was in the headlines. today._we had that today. remember, we had that conversation— today. remember, we had that conversation children. conversation about children. i tteetttvter— conversation about children. i identifying—beenl identifying as cats. i've been erttteteet— identifying as cats. i've been criticised - my - identifying as cats. i've been criticised my response criticised a lot for my response to criticised a lot for my response tr ttrt. — criticised a lot for my response tr ttrt. se— criticised a lot for my response to that. so i'll— criticised a lot for my response to that. so i'll be— criticised a lot for my response to that. so i'll be responding in to that. so i'll be responding te tuet— to that. so i'll be responding te tuet r— to that. so i'll be responding in just a couple— to that. so i'll be responding in just a couple seconds. in just a couple of seconds. but rer—tre— in just a couple of seconds. but also-has sparked- also as well, it has sparked rutte— also as well, it has sparked rutte r— also as well, it has sparked rutte r trt— also as well, it has sparked quite a lot of— also as well, it has sparked quite a lot of conversation rtrut— quite a lot of conversation rtrut vtrt— quite a lot of conversation about what is— quite a lot of conversation about what is going in about what is going on in eetrrte— about what is going on in. eetrrte—erv schools as investigation now uetervvrv— schools as investigation now underway imminently. schools as investigation now underway imminently . but when it underway imminently. but when it tr— underway imminently. but when it tr vtrt— underway imminently. but when it comes to what our— underway imminently. but when it comes to what our kids are taught— comes to what our kids are taught, particularly in sex etuerttre— taught, particularly in sex education, who gets the final say?— education, who gets the final erve-etrutt— education, who gets the final say? should parents be say? and should parents be rttrvvet— say? and should parents be allowed i see _ say? and should parents be allowed see what their kids allowed to see what their kids are allowed to see what their kids teter— allowed to see what their kids are being taught— allowed to see what their kids are being taught .

hello there. welcome back to teeter— hello there. welcome back to tevvter cr— hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with— hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me michelle tevterrv— dewbs& co with me michelle tevterrv .— dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry . lots— dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry . lots of well—wishing

dewberry. lots of well—wishing erreter— dewberry. lots of well—wishing erreter ttrrurt— dewberry. lots of well—wishing coming through the inbox for tree— coming through the inbox for ttree reeete— coming through the inbox for those people trapped in the tertt— those people trapped in the north atlantic— those people trapped in the north atlantic somewhere. we tre-t— north atlantic somewhere. we tre-t terr— north atlantic somewhere. we don't know where. i was very sad not don't know where. i was very sad ert tr— don't know where. i was very sad ert tr te— don't know where. i was very sad ert tr te rtte— don't know where. i was very sad not to be able to— don't know where. i was very sad not to be able to bring you tretttve— not to be able to bring you positive news— not to be able to bring you positive news at- not to be able to bring you positive news at that press conference which we started the etrv— conference which we started the etrv vvttt— conference which we started the show with tonight. _ conference which we started the show with tonight. but the eerrt— show with tonight. but the search does _ show with tonight. but the search does indeed continue trttter— search does indeed continue talking about— search does indeed continue talking about burke , britton talking about burke, britton trvvteee— talking about burke, britton lawless, britain is what some of you— lawless, britain is what some of you re— lawless, britain is what some of you erter— lawless, britain is what some of you are calling it— lawless, britain is what some of you are calling it tonight, ervter— you are calling it tonight, saying absolutely. you do agree ttrt— saying absolutely. you do agree ttrt tte— saying absolutely. you do agree that it's getting— saying absolutely. you do agree that it's getting worse. many of you— that it's getting worse. many of you ervter— that it's getting worse. many of you ervter ttrt— that it's getting worse. many of you saying that actually you tttet— you saying that actually you tttet tt— you saying that actually you tttet tt te— you saying that actually you think it is just— you saying that actually you think it is just going to get worse and worse worse. worse and worse and worse. a erupte— worse and worse and worse. a erupte-rettter- worse and worse and worse. a couple-getting in- worse and worse and worse. a couple getting in touch couple of you getting in touch ervtrrr— couple of you getting in touch saving—jamiel saying there should be. jamie erve— saying there should be. jamie says courthouse— saying there should be. jamie says courthouse level security at says courthouse level security rt—tr- says courthouse level security rt—tr vrui at hospital entrances. do you ttrtt— at hospital entrances. do you ttrt—rr- at hospital entrances. do you tttrrt—rr erreel at hospital entrances. do youi think—go some way at hospital entrances. do you- think_go some way in think that would go some way in trrteetter— think that would go some way in protecting-staff— think that would go some way in protecting staff that work protecting the staff that work tteree— protecting the staff that work ttereeltrrr-t— protecting the staff that work there? don't know. dale. he there? i don't know. dale. he erve— there? i don't know. dale. he ervelvre— there? i don't know. dale. he says was paramedic. he says he was a paramedic. he tette— says he was a paramedic. he teue-r— says he was a paramedic. he tette-r tev— says he was a paramedic. he tells a few stories , tells me a few stories, returttv,— tells me a few stories, actually,.him - tells me a few stories, actually, him being attacked actually, of him being attacked reuttttte— actually, of him being attackedi reuttttte—tte multiple times whilst doing his job. multiple times whilst doing his trt. tteruetter— multiple times whilst doing his job. disgusting. if you ask me. now:— job. disgusting. if you ask me. urv, tt— job. disgusting. if you ask me. urv, tt vr-rue— job. disgusting. if you ask me. now, if you're a— job. disgusting. if you ask me. now, if you're a regular viewer to now, if you're a regular viewer tr ttte— now, if you're a regular viewer tr ttte etrr— now, if you're a regular viewer to this show, you— now, if you're a regular viewer to this show, you might remember i to this show, you might remember . tttet— to this show, you might remember . tttet tt— to this show, you might remember ttttet tt vvre— to this show, you might remember i think it was the— to this show, you might remember i think it was the start of this week— i think it was the start of this week r— i think it was the start of this week a couple— i think it was the start of this week a couple of— i think it was the start of this week a couple of days ago revert,— week a couple of days ago anywayv vvtere— week a couple of days ago anyway, where we were talking rtrut— anyway, where we were talking rtrut tte — anyway, where we were talking about the topic— anyway, where we were talking about the topic of— anyway, where we were talking about the topic of children. i tteetttvter— about the topic of children. i identifying as— about the topic of children. i identifying as a— about the topic of children. i identifying as a variety of ttttereet—

identifying as a variety of different things, quite frankly, vttttrr— different things, quite frankly, within schools— different things, quite frankly, within schools example that we were discussing— within schools example that we were discussing was cats. anywavr — were discussing was cats. anywayr .— were discussing was cats. anywayr r vvre— were discussing was cats. anyway, i was discussing it on the anyway, i was discussing it on tte etrr— anyway, i was discussing it on tte etrv ret— anyway, i was discussing it on the show and i— anyway, i was discussing it on the show and i gave my opinion. vtett— the show and i gave my opinion. vvett tte— the show and i gave my opinion. well the newspapers, a couple of ttere — well the newspapers, a couple of ttere tertt— well the newspapers, a couple of them don't seem— well the newspapers, a couple of them don't seem to— well the newspapers, a couple of them don't seem to like what i trt— them don't seem to like what i trt tr— them don't seem to like what i trt tr erv— them don't seem to like what i trt tr erv. .— them don't seem to like what i had to say. i noticed this rtre,— had to say. i noticed this article, for— had to say. i noticed this article, for example, this rerreter. — article, for example, this morning. apparently i am feeling the morning. apparently i am feeling tte tert— morning. apparently i am feeling tte tert te— morning. apparently i am feeling the heat in the— morning. apparently i am feeling the heat in the child gender row ret— the heat in the child gender row ret vtrt— the heat in the child gender row ret vtrt te— the heat in the child gender row and what is ensured, by the way, off and what is ensured, by the way, rtt tte— and what is ensured, by the way, rtt tte trek— and what is ensured, by the way, off the back of— and what is ensured, by the way, off the back of this— off the back of this conversation is nothing short off the back of this— conversation is nothing short of an conversation is nothing short of re rtertute— conversation is nothing short of an absolute pile— conversation is nothing short of an absolute pile on on social reettr— an absolute pile on on social reettr. .— an absolute pile on on social media. i have— an absolute pile on on social media. i have been called ladies ret— media. i have been called ladies rer-etere— media. i have been called ladies rer-etere te— media. i have been called ladies and-where is that?- media. i have been called ladies and where is that? i and gents, where is that? i vret— and gents, where is that? i vvre-t repert— and gents, where is that? i won't repeat-tea- and gents, where is that? i won't repeat tea time. it'll won't repeat at tea time. it'll rerte— won't repeat at tea time. it'll rerte vrur— won't repeat at tea time. it'll rerte vrur evee— won't repeat at tea time. it'll make your eyes water and your trrr— make your eyes water and your trtr turt— make your eyes water and your trtr eurt tut— make your eyes water and your hair curl, but you— make your eyes water and your hair curl, but you can imagine ttere. — hair curl, but you can imagine ttere. ttev-re— hair curl, but you can imagine them. they're not— hair curl, but you can imagine them. they're not pleasant. one of them. they're not pleasant. one rt-rrteer— them. they're not pleasant. one rt-eteer vvrve— them. they're not pleasant. one of-nicer ways i've- them. they're not pleasant. one of nicer ways i've been of the nicer ways i've been erter— of the nicer ways i've been erttet te— of the nicer ways i've been called is multiple times called is scum. multiple times t-ve— called is scum. multiple times he teee— called is scum. multiple times he teee-t— called is scum. multiple times i've been-i am— called is scum. multiple times i've been-i am a- called is scum. multiple times i've been i am a child's i've been told i am a child's tutu— i've been told i am a child's tuttv. .— i've been told i am a child's bully. i should— i've been told i am a child's bully. i should be ashamed of reveett— bully. i should be ashamed of revert-ttrt— bully. i should be ashamed of myself-that-a- bully. i should be ashamed of myself that a disgrace myself and that i am a disgrace . erre— myself and that i am a disgrace . one-even told- myself and that i am a disgrace . one-even told me- myself and that i am a disgrace . one even told me i . one person even told me i etrutte-t— . one person even told me i shouldn't—near. . one person even told me i. shouldn't—near kids. shouldn't be allowed near kids. vtett— shouldn't be allowed near kids. vvett t-ve— shouldn't be allowed near kids. vvett t-ve rrt— shouldn't be allowed near kids. war, he rrt r— shouldn't be allowed near kids. well, i've got a little message for well, i've got a little message trr rt— well, i've got a little message trr rtt rt— well, i've got a little message trr rtt rt vru. — well, i've got a little message for all of you. lots— well, i've got a little message for all of you. lots for eevvetrter— for all of you. lots for newspaper writers and all the reet— newspaper writers and all the reet rt— newspaper writers and all the reet rt rt.— newspaper writers and all the rest of it. you— newspaper writers and all the rest of it. you will not bully aet— rest of it. you will not bully me. and this— rest of it. you will not bully me. and this is— rest of it. you will not bully me. and this is what happens vtee— me. and this is what happens etee—tr- me. and this is what happens. vvtere—tr-rut when people dare to speak out rtrut— when people dare to speak out rtrut tte— when people dare to speak out about the-ridicule- about the absolute ridicule closeness going on in closeness that is going on in

urr-et— closeness that is going on in our-and beyond- closeness that is going on in our and beyond a pile closeness that is going on in- our-and beyond a pile on our schools and beyond a pile on trtterre— our schools and beyond a pile on trtteee ret— our schools and beyond a pile on happens and people are shamed into happens and people are shamed tetr teter— happens and people are shamed into being silenced. they're on the— into being silenced. they're on ttte vert— into being silenced. they're on this weird ideology, progressive is this weird ideology, progressive te teruee— this weird ideology, progressive is because people cannot handle an understandable— is because people cannot handle an understandable , by the way, an understandable, by the way, teruee— an understandable, by the way, teruee tte— an understandable, by the way, because it's not— an understandable, by the way, because it's not nice. they ere-t— because it's not nice. they can't handle— because it's not nice. they can't handle the pressure. but for can't handle the pressure. but trr tte— can't handle the pressure. but for the record,— can't handle the pressure. but for the record, i— can't handle the pressure. but for the record, i wasn't mocking etrree.— for the record, i wasn't mocking ettttree. tre— for the record, i wasn't mocking children. i'm mocking you. the rtutte— children. i'm mocking you. the adults-indulge— children. i'm mocking you. the adults indulge this adults that indulge this ridiculous— adults that indulge this ridiculous fantasy ideology that will ridiculous fantasy ideology that vvttt trve— ridiculous fantasy ideology that will have real— ridiculous fantasy ideology that will have real world consequences. so no, i will not be consequences. so no, i will not te rtrtrrteter— consequences. so no, i will not be apologising. thank you very reuet— be apologising. thank you very reuet .— be apologising. thank you very reuet . aet— be apologising. thank you very reuet . aer rrr— be apologising. thank you very much . and no, i— be apologising. thank you very much . and no, i will not be much. and no, i will not be backtracking— much. and no, i will not be backtracking either. and returttv,— backtracking either. and actually, more people , i would actually, more people, i would say,— actually, more people, i would savr tretet— actually, more people, i would say, daniel moylan need to be etertter— say, daniel moylan need to be etertter rut— say, daniel moylan need to be speaking out about what is going on speaking out about what is going re-eetrrt.— speaking out about what is going on-school. that— on in our school. that trrreutr— on in our school. that particular school in question is going— particular school in question is rrter tr— particular school in question is rrter tr te— particular school in question is going to be subject to a government— going to be subject to a government review. it's opened up r— government review. it's opened up r ttr— government review. it's opened up a big conversation in lots of vvrve— up a big conversation in lots of trve-vtetter— up a big conversation in lots of ways-whetherlnot- ways about whether or not trreete— ways about whether or not parents should— ways about whether or not parents should more involved parents should be more involved vvttt— parents should be more involved vttt-te— parents should be more involved vttt-te ttrt— parents should be more involved with-is that their- with what it is that their ettttree— with what it is that their children are— with what it is that their children are learning, particularly- children are learning, particularly in aspects of there— particularly in aspects of tttere-eex- particularly in aspects of things sex education. things like sex education. vtett— things like sex education. vtrt-rrt— things like sex education. well, - got. case, i well, we've got this case, haven't where judge has haven't we, where the judge has decided the copyright decided that the copyright interests the providers, of interests of the providers, of the and relationship the sex and relationship education, is a sort of education, which is a sort of private charity , outweigh the private charity, outweigh the rights of the parents to see the

material . and i think that is material. and i think that is simply wrong. the moral and legal response ability for the education of children lies firmly with parents. the state is a facilitator. the state is there to help parents discharge their duty to educate children . their duty to educate children. and if this decision , which i and if this decision, which i understand is going to appeal, if it is upheld, then i think that parliament should move rapidly to change the law so that parents have an unfettered right to see the texts that are being used in their schools just as they always could when they were school textbooks. indeed, joe. well, i'm i don't know the tretrrrurrt— joe. well, i'm i don't know the tretrrruet tr— joe. well, i'm i don't know the background to this— well, i'm i don't know the background to this case, and i tre-t— background to this case, and i tre-t terr— background to this case, and i don't know-the- background to this case, and i don't know the mother don't know whether the mother returttv—trtti don't know whether the mother. actually _talk to actually made attempt to talk to the headteacher— actually made attempt to talk to the headteacher or— actually made attempt to talk to the headteacher or the teacher tevrtvet— the headteacher or the teacher involved-this— the headteacher or the teacher involved-this case- the headteacher or the teacher involved this case because involved in this case because i vvrutt— involved in this case because i vrutt trve— involved in this case because i would have thought that most eeeettte— would have thought that most sensible-would- sensible teachers would have sat trve— sensible teachers would have sat trve-vert— sensible teachers would have sat down .would-had- down and would have had a conversation. _ down and would have had a conversation-i- down and would have had a conversation. i think what conversation. and i think what is conversation. and i think what te tte— conversation. and i think what te tte reeue— conversation. and i think what is the issue here?— conversation. and i think what is the issue here? is this third party— is the issue here? is this third trrtv—tte- party provider now, the government _ party provider now, the government announced party provider now, the gtreviewent announced party provider now, the gtreview of: announced party provider now, the gtreview of sex announced party provider now, the gtreview of sex education,1nounced party provider now, the gtreview of sex education, which ed a review of sex education, which is a review of sex education, which te erretuterrv— a review of sex education, which te erretuterrv trr— a review of sex education, which is compulsory in secondary eetrrte— is compulsory in secondary eetrrte .— is compulsory in secondary schools , and— is compulsory in secondary schools , and they're supposed to schools, and they're supposed to be schools, and they're supposed to te reporter— schools, and they're supposed to be reporting back— schools, and they're supposed to be reporting back in september. so

be reporting back in september. so wet— be reporting back in september. so wet te— be reporting back in september. so we'll be interesting to see vtrt— so we'll be interesting to see vtrt trtteee— so we'll be interesting to see what happens there. but, i mean, it what happens there. but, i mean, tt tree— what happens there. but, i mean, tt tree eee— what happens there. but, i mean, it does seem really— what happens there. but, i mean, it does seem really weird that the commercial— it does seem really weird that the commercial interests of a ttrt— the commercial interests of a tttrt trtv— the commercial interests of a tttrt trtv te— the commercial interests of a third party be over all the rodent— third party be over all the goodwill and— third party be over all the goodwill and the good relationship- goodwill and the good relationship between a school ret— relationship between a school ret tte— relationship between a school and the parents— relationship between a school and the parents because most eetrrte— and the parents because most eetrrte vret— and the parents because most schools want parents to be tevrtvet— schools want parents to be involved and— schools want parents to be involved and be- schools want parents to be involved and be engaged. and eeret— involved and be engaged. and most schools— involved and be engaged. and most schools and— involved and be engaged. and most schools and teachers that i terr— most schools and teachers that i trrrvv vrutt— most schools and teachers that i know would welcome a conversation - know would welcome a conversation ,- know would welcome a conversation , however robust it conversation, however robust it retrtt— conversation, however robust it retrtt be,— conversation, however robust it retrtt te, vttt— conversation, however robust it might be, with parents who vretet— might be, with parents who vvrrrtet tr— might be, with parents who wanted to express their concerns. “r;;“ wanted to express their concerns. / wanted to express their concerns. “r;;“ wanted to express their- concerns. yeah, the heart of a lot of this is you mentioned about external providers. at the heart of it, everyone , it's heart of it, everyone, it's about the confidentiality motty and the commercialism , if that's and the commercialism, if that's the word, commerciality of this content. because what they would argue for is that the school enters into a confidentiality agreement with this content deliverer . and if you then deliverer. and if you then pubush deliverer. and if you then publish this information for whoever to see the parents or beyond , then you're affecting beyond, then you're affecting the third party's ability to sell this course on to and make money, because theoretically it's publicly available. it'd be

really interesting to see the outcome of this because i got to tell you now, i would not have my child learning about some of these very sensitive matters, particular the direction of travel that we find ourselves in. if i wasn't familiar with and care, quite frankly, with what he is being taught. would you, with your children, would you, with your children, would you be happy if it was happening to your grandkids, being taught stuff that you do not even know and not allowed know? and you're not allowed to know? it's little bit if it's all a little bit weird if you ask and i got to say, you ask me. and i got to say, i do not like the direction of travel that we are on. but for now, joe, thank you for your time. lord moylan, thank you as well your company. well for yours, your company. thank much. for thank you very much. home for your company. not go your company. do not go anywhere. i will be back tomorrow everybody. anywhere. i will be back tom0iarw everybody. anywhere. i will be back tom0ia treat. everybody. anywhere. i will be back tom0ia treat. i everybody. anywhere. i will be back tom0ia treat. i love everybody. anywhere. i will be back tom0ia treat. i love being'body. anywhere. i will be back tom0ia treat. i love being outy. what a treat. i love being out and about talking to you guys, but nigel farage will but up next, nigel farage will be and he'll be be with you and he'll also be with me in barnsley two nights. and see you tomorrow. and i'll see you tomorrow. hello? it's mcgivern and i'll see you tomorrow. . hello? it's-mcgivern here hello? it's aidan mcgivern here vttt— hello? it's aidan mcgivern here vttt-ueve— hello? it's aidan mcgivern here with news forecast with the gb news forecast from the with the gb news forecast from tte—a— with the gb news forecast from tte—a etrere- with the gb news forecast from the—a change on. with the gb news forecast from the a change on the the met office. a change on the way— the met office. a change on the vvrv ver— the met office. a change on the vvrv tte— the met office. a change on the way over the next— the met office. a change on the way over the next few days. rever— way over the next few days. fewer showers— way over the next few days. fewer showers and sunny erettttree— fewer showers and sunny conditions-it. fewer showers and sunny. conditions-it will conditions for many, it will turn—

conditions for many, it will turn-trr— conditions for many, it will ture-trr tte- conditions for many, it will. turn - in the - later, turn hotter in the south later, tut— turn hotter in the south later, tut-te— turn hotter in the south later,i but - be - persistent but there'll be some persistent rrte— but there'll be some persistent rrte-tertt— but there'll be some persistent rrte-rrrtt tv— but there'll be some persistent rain-north by the- but there'll be some persistent rain north by the weekend rain in the north by the weekend as rain in the north by the weekend re vett. — rain in the north by the weekend as well. nevertheless showers on vveteeetrv— as well. nevertheless showers on wednesday soon _ as well. nevertheless showers on wednesday soon disappear into the wednesday soon disappear into tte etrtt— wednesday soon disappear into tte etrtt ret— wednesday soon disappear into the night and then clear spells by tte— the night and then clear spells by tte tteee— the night and then clear spells by tte ttee ve— the night and then clear spells by the time we wake up on tturetrv— by the time we wake up on tturetrv day-— by the time we wake up on thursday day. there will be some trtetv— thursday day. there will be some trtetv rtrut— thursday day. there will be some patchy cloud out— thursday day. there will be some patchy cloud out there and temperatures— patchy cloud out there and temperatures won't fall much turtter— temperatures won't fall much turtter ttre— temperatures won't fall much further than 13— temperatures won't fall much further than 13 to 15 celsius in tte— further than 13 to 15 celsius in tte erutt— further than 13 to 15 celsius in the south. perhaps the single ttruree— the south. perhaps the single ttruree te— the south. perhaps the single figures in the— the south. perhaps the single figures in the north. a fresher teet— figures in the north. a fresher feel compared— figures in the north. a fresher feel compared to— figures in the north. a fresher feel compared to the start of tte— feel compared to the start of tte reet— feel compared to the start of the week and— feel compared to the start of the week and compared to what's to the week and compared to what's tr ree— the week and compared to what's to come heading— the week and compared to what's to come heading into the weekend vvttt— to come heading into the weekend vttt ee— to come heading into the weekend vvttt reurrv— to come heading into the weekend with some muggy nights retureter— with some muggy nights returning. but plenty of eueettee— sunshine. first thing on tturetrv— sunshine. first thing on thursday as— sunshine. first thing on thursday as the temperatures riser _ thursday as the temperatures vett— thursday as the temperatures rise, we'll see— thursday as the temperatures rise, we'll see the shower ttrure— rise, we'll see the shower clouds bubble— rise, we'll see the shower clouds bubble up once again. arre— clouds bubble up once again. arrte tteee— clouds bubble up once again. again these will— clouds bubble up once again. again these will be hit and miss trvetrure— again these will be hit and miss downpours some— again these will be hit and miss downpours some thunderstorms out ttere— downpours some thunderstorms out ttere re— downpours some thunderstorms out ttere re vett— downpours some thunderstorms out there as well, and— downpours some thunderstorms out there as well, and most likely rtteettrrr— there as well, and most likely affecting northern england into the affecting northern england into tte-vvree— affecting northern england into the-wales and- affecting northern england into the wales and east the midlands, wales and east aerttr— the midlands, wales and east aerttrlrvrv— the midlands, wales and east anglia away these, any anglia. away from these, any ervveret— anglia. away from these, any showers will— anglia. away from these, any showers will be— anglia. away from these, any showers will be fairly isolated. tereterrturee— showers will be fairly isolated. temperatures hitting 29 celsius in temperatures hitting 29 celsius te tte— temperatures hitting 29 celsius in the south—east— temperatures hitting 29 celsius in the south—east low to mid 20s trtrtv— in the south—east low to mid 20s trtrtv vvttetv— in the south—east low to mid 20s fairly widely across— in the south—east low to mid 20s fairly widely across the uk and tetr— fairly widely across the uk and tetr tturetrv— fairly widely across the uk and into thursday nights. we keep ttrt— into thursday nights. we keep ttrt reurrv— into thursday nights. we keep ttrt reurrv teet. — into thursday nights. we keep that muggy feel. in fact , it's that muggy feel. in fact, it's a etrtt— that muggy feel. in fact, it's a warmer night to— that muggy feel. in fact, it's a warmer night to come across the

uk warmer night to come across the ut teettte— warmer night to come across the ut teettte tteetv— warmer night to come across the uk despite plenty of clear skies out uk despite plenty of clear skies rut ttere— uk despite plenty of clear skies rut ttere .— uk despite plenty of clear skies out there . the— uk despite plenty of clear skies out there . the clouds will build out there. the clouds will build in out there. the clouds will build te tte— out there. the clouds will build te tte reet— out there. the clouds will build te tte veet by— out there. the clouds will build in the west by the— out there. the clouds will build in the west by the end of the etrtt— in the west by the end of the etrtt vvttt— in the west by the end of the night with some— in the west by the end of the night with some showery rain for urrttere— night with some showery rain for northern ireland— night with some showery rain for northern ireland and many northern ireland and in many rtreee—trttteri northern ireland and in many. places—holding up places temperatures holding up in places temperatures holding up te—ret- places temperatures holding up te—rrrt tertrtel in the mid teens and perhaps somewhere like— in the mid teens and perhaps somewhere like london, 18 cetetue. — somewhere like london, 18 cetetue. se— somewhere like london, 18 celsius. so we— somewhere like london, 18 celsius. so we start off friday vttt— celsius. so we start off friday vttt tteee— celsius. so we start off friday with those outbreaks of rain tuetter— with those outbreaks of rain tuetter tetr— with those outbreaks of rain pushing into western scotland ret— pushing into western scotland ret urrtterrr— pushing into western scotland and northern ireland. showery rre— and northern ireland. showery reetee-— and northern ireland. showery rain,-some heavy- and northern ireland. showery rain, some heavy bursts as rain, but some heavy bursts as vett— rain, but some heavy bursts as vett trr— rain, but some heavy bursts as well for england— rain, but some heavy bursts as well for england and wales it's trrett— well for england and wales it's trretv trv— well for england and wales it's trretv trv rt— well for england and wales it's largely dry at first with some eueetree— largely dry at first with some sunshine-of- largely dry at first with some sunshine. of wales sunshine. but parts of wales vvttt— sunshine. but parts of wales will-showers- sunshine. but parts of wales will showers move sunshine. but parts of wales. will-showers move in sunshine. but parts of wales- will-showers move in by will see some showers move in by the will see some showers move in by tte—att— will see some showers move in by tte—au ttte— the afternoon. all this associated— the afternoon. all this associated with a series of vvertter— associated with a series of weather fronts _ associated with a series of weather fronts which are increasingly— weather fronts which are increasingly affecting the north and northwest— increasingly affecting the north and northwest of— increasingly affecting the north and northwest of the uk into the weekend.— and northwest of the uk into the weekend. they're— and northwest of the uk into the weekend. they're going to

good evening. rig“ good evening. tonight. well, the inflation figures, once again were very disappointing . we will were very disappointing. we will debate has the bank of england blown it? we'll also get the