good morning and welcome to the point— good morning and welcome to the point on— good morning and welcome to the point on ea— good morning and welcome to the point on gb news. _ good morning and welcome to the point on gb news, we good morning and welcome to the point on gb news. w“ point on gb news. with me, andrew— point on gb news. with me, andrew pierce and bev turner. so it is a bit of a bleak show, but stay with us because time is running out. the search for the missing— running out. the search for the missing man— m g the search for the missing titan submersible as it saass— missing titan submersible as it reaches a critical— missing titan submersible as it reaches a critical moment. the air supply— reaches a critical moment. the air supply an— reaches a critical moment. the air supply on board is estimated to air supply on board is estimated as an— air supply on board is estimated as sas— air supply on board is estimated to run out this— air supply on board is estimated to run out this morning. we will bring— to run out this morning. we will bring you— to run out this morning. we will bring you any— to run out this morning. we will bring you any updates as we get aasm. — bring you any updates as we get aasm. ana— bring you any updates as we get aasm. and a— bring you any updates as we get them. and a recession now seems ansvaaaaas. — them. and a recession now seems inevitable. the— them. and a recession now seems inevitable. the bank— them. and a recession now seems inevitable. the bank of- them. and a recession now seems inevitable. " g: inevitable. the bank of england is going to hike interest rates for the 13th consecutive time today at midday. stay tuned for that. and today at midday. stay tuned for that . and the british defence that. and the british defence sssasaaay— that. and the british defence sssasaaay has— that. and the british defence secretary has ruled- and the british defence secretary has ruled himself out of contention— secretary has ruled himself out of contention for— secretary has ruled himself out of contention for the position

of contention for the position of nato,— of contention for the position of nato, said _ of contention for the position of nato, said general. this comes as the— of nato, said general. this comes as the current leader , mr comes as the current leader, mr saaaasnasas,— comes as the current leader, mr saaaasnasas, as— comes as the current leader, mr stoltenberg, is due— comes as the current leader, mr stoltenberg, is due to set to sass— stoltenberg, is due to set to sass saws— stoltenberg, is due to set to step down an— stoltenberg, is due to set to step down in september. that's pastas— step down in september. that's pastas af— step down in september. that's pasaaas of ass— step down in september. that's picture of ben wallace in a tank . ana— picture of ben wallace in a tank . ana is— picture of ben wallace in a tank . ana in trash— picture of ben wallace in a tank . and in truth he— picture of ben wallace in a tank . and in truth he hasn't ruled hamssu— . and in truth he hasn't ruled hamssu sat.— . and in truth he hasn't ruled himself out. _ . and in truth he hasn't ruled himself out. joe— . and in truth he hasn't ruled himself out. : . and in truth he hasn't ruled himself out. 21:7“ : c himself out. joe biden doesn't want him quite. he doesn't want a british secretary—general of nato. so he's putting a brave face on it. and rishi sunak be relieved because it would otherwise be another by—election which bit more of which they'd lose a bit more of that story. maybe than the way we that story. maybe than the way ws-n— that story. maybe than the way ws-aa as — that story. maybe than the way us-aa as you — that story. maybe than the way we-it to you there. - 5.03 maybe than the way we it to you there. but we sold it to you there. but anyway,— we sold it to you there. but anyway-know- we sold it to you there. but anyway, know your anyway, let us know your thoughts— anyway, let us know your thoughts morning. thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email addrsss— vaiews@gbnews.com is the email addrsss-au— vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address.-all though,- address. first of all though, assas— address. first of all though, here - news with - address. first of all though, here news with rihanna . address. first of all though,- here-news with rihanna . here is your news with rihanna. thank— here is your news with rihanna. thank you.— here is your news with rihanna. nhanh you. hay.— here is your news with rihanna. thank you, bev. good— here is your news with rihanna. thank you, bev. good morning. it's 932. your top stories from the newsroom on the us coast guard says the search of the area where signals thought to sound out sos are being detected has been expanded. that as they race to locate the missing tourists submersible visiting the titanic shipwreck runs out

aircraft and ten ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while two remote atlantic, while two remote controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor under the surface . l'atalante carrying surface. l'atalante carrying state of the art rov has arrived in the area. according to website, marine traffic.com. meanwhile, british deepwater salvage company magellan is en route to aid in the rescue . five route to aid in the rescue. five people are inside the craft that lost contact on sunday as it made a descent to the titanic wreck. the bank of england is set to increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive time later as it tries to tackle ongoing price rises . the latest ongoing price rises. the latest figures published yesterday showed inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to lower inflation amid rising inflation. labour has called on banks to

provide support to homeowners facing mortgage payment. difficulty as the party claims their five point plan would allow borrowers to switch to interest only payments or extend their mortgage terms. the government says lenders are already required to engage with struggling customers . and king struggling customers. and king charles says the windrush generation has made a significant difference to the uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent. uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent . 75 years profound and permanent. 75 years after the first crossing from the caribbean, the king will be among those at a service held at windsor castle later marking the anniversary , a £1 million fund anniversary, a £1 million fund raising efforts are also underway to recover the anchor from the ship that made the crossing and put it on public display . at and you can get more display. at and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now though, it's back to andrew and .

back to andrew and. bev very good morning. back to andrew and. bev- . very good morning. thank very good morning. thank you is very good morning. thank you for is, of- forjoining us. time is, of course , running out to find and course, running out to find and ans— course, running out to find and ahs hys— course, running out to find and rescue the five men trapped on hoars— rescue the five men trapped on board ans— rescue the five men trapped on board the titan— rescue the five men trapped on board the titan submersible. wen,— board the titan submersible. hushlhsnss— board the titan submersible. well, hopes begin to fade well, as hopes begin to fade. over—survival, over their chances of survival, ush— over their chances of survival, nsh ,— over their chances of survival, nsh , you— over their chances of survival, ush , yau khan,— over their chances of survival, well , you know, it— over their chances of survival, well, you know, it disappeared on well, you know, it disappeared an sunaay— well, you know, it disappeared on sunday after— well, you know, it disappeared on sunday after a— well, you know, it disappeared on sunday after a contact was hnahsn— on sunday after a contact was hnahsn ahsn— on sunday after a contact was broken after an— on sunday after a contact was broken after an hour and 45 nhnuass— broken after an hour and 45 minutes, the— broken after an hour and 45 minutes, the submersibles , 96 minutes, the submersibles, 96 haun— minutes, the submersibles, 96 hours-emergency- minutes, the submersibles, 96 hours emergency oxygen could hours of emergency oxygen could run hours of emergency oxygen could sun— hours of emergency oxygen could run out as early— hours of emergency oxygen could run out as early as— hours of emergency oxygen could run out as early as midday assay.— run out as early as midday assay. sa— run out as early as midday today. so those— run out as early as midday today. so those on board hnshuhs— today. so those on board include, just— today. so those on board include, just to remind you , include, just to remind you, billionaire— include, just to remind you, billionaire hamish harding, sssansans— billionaire hamish harding, oceangate ceo, stockton, rush , oceangate ceo, stockton, rush, nsnsh— oceangate ceo, stockton, rush, nsnsh navy— oceangate ceo, stockton, rush, french navy veteran nigel and pakistan— french navy veteran nigel and pakistani businessman shahzada dawson— pakistani businessman shahzada hanssa ana— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his— pakistani businessman shahzada dawood and his son sulaiman, who is just— dawood and his son sulaiman, who is just as. — dawood and his son sulaiman, who hs just as. joining— dawood and his son sulaiman, who is just 19. joining us— dawood and his son sulaiman, who is just 19. joining us for- dawood and his son sulaiman, who is just 19. " g is just 19. joining us for an update is our national reporter paul hawkins. good morning, paul paul hawkins. good morning, paul. i mean, there was a flurry of excitement here on gb news yesterday we got that great yesterday when we got that great story they out, that story that they worked out, that the banging sounds that they detected by sonar were sos alerts. but still they haven't

found the submersible . no. and found the submersible. no. and key to knowing, found the submersible. no. and hsy as hnauhng, ._ found the submersible. no. and key to knowing, i mean,- found the submersible. no. and key to knowing, i mean, it- z no. and key to knowing, i mean, it is good— key to knowing, i mean, it is good unsh— key to knowing, i mean, it is good nhsn ysu— key to knowing, i mean, it is good when you pick up those sos ahsns— good when you pick up those sos ahsns h— good when you pick up those sos ahsns if you— good when you pick up those sos alerts, if you pick— good when you pick up those sos alerts, if you pick it— good when you pick up those sos alerts, if you pick it up from one sonar buoy,— alerts, if you pick it up from one sonar buoy, you can narrow one sonar buoy, you can narrow ans— one sonar buoy, you can narrow nhs asa— one sonar buoy, you can narrow nhs asyn— one sonar buoy, you can narrow the area down to,— one sonar buoy, you can narrow the area down to, what, 1 to 2km as ans— the area down to, what, 1 to 2km as shs ssash— the area down to, what, 1 to 2km as the search area.— the area down to, what, 1 to 2km as the search area. multiple husys— as the search area. multiple husys, yau— as the search area. multiple husys, yau sa— as the search area. multiple buoys, you can get it down to hem. — buoys, you can get it down to hem. sa— buoys, you can get it down to hem. ss h— buoys, you can get it down to 100m. so it depends how many sensors was picked up. those signa— sensors was picked up. those signal shoals.— sensors was picked up. those signal shoals. in— sensors was picked up. those signal shoals. in terms of the sash— signal shoals. in terms of the search area. but— signal shoals. in terms of the search area. but what we do know is has— search area. but what we do know is than nus-vs— search area. but what we do know is that we've been— search area. but what we do know is that we've been tracking the a has— is that we've been tracking the a has af— is that we've been tracking the a has of hanss— is that we've been tracking the a lot of hopes are— is that we've been tracking the a lot of hopes are being pinned on a lot of hopes are being pinned an ans— a lot of hopes are being pinned on the atalante,_ a lot of hopes are being pinned on the atalante, the latter haunshssh— on the atalante, the latter haunshsa, h— on the atalante, the latter launched, i should say, the nsnsh— launched, i should say, the french scientific research ssssh— french scientific research vessel that's— french scientific research vessel that's en route. these, by vessel that's en route. these, hy ans— vessel that's en route. these, hy ahs way,— vessel that's en route. these, by the way, these— vessel that's en route. these, by the way, these images we're ssshnu— by the way, these images we're ssshns, shhs— by the way, these images we're ssshng, this is— by the way, these images we're seeing, this is the— by the way, these images we're seeing, this is the search area . n-s— seeing, this is the search area . has a— seeing, this is the search area . has a has— seeing, this is the search area us a has a— seeing, this is the search area . it's a it's a slightly incomprehensible graphic that was incomprehensible graphic that nasnussssa— incomprehensible graphic that was tweeted by— incomprehensible graphic that was tweeted by the us coastguard. _ was tweeted by the us coastguard. this morning. the red coastguard. this morning. the nsa x— coastguard. this morning. the asa x as— coastguard. this morning. the asa x an ans— coastguard. this morning. the red x at the top— coastguard. this morning. the red x at the top of the picture. than-s— red x at the top of the picture. than-s nhsns— red x at the top of the picture. that's where the _ red x at the top of the picture. that's where the site of the titans— that's where the site of the titanic wreckage is. and then we think— titanic wreckage is. and then we think unan— titanic wreckage is. and then we think what they've— titanic wreckage is. and then we think what they've done is shsy-vs — think what they've done is ahsy-ys haha— think what they've done is they've laid out a grid system. ana— they've laid out a grid system. and ns— they've laid out a grid system. and one would— they've laid out a grid system. and one would have thought that the and one would have thought that shs sna— and one would have thought that ahs gnu sysasn— and one would have thought that the grid system reflects the way the grid system reflects the way shs sunsnss— the grid system reflects the way the currents are— the grid system reflects the way the currents are flowing and nhsns— the currents are flowing and nhsns nhsy— the currents are flowing and where they theoretic , ali,

where they think theoretic, ali, the where they think theoretic, ali, shs man— where they think theoretic, ali, the titan could— where they think theoretic, ali, the titan could be resting on sns— the titan could be resting on shs ssahsa.— the titan could be resting on the seabed. so— the titan could be resting on the seabed. so that's the graph shu— the seabed. so that's the graph we're still trying— the seabed. so that's the graph we're still trying to piece aagsnhsn— we're still trying to piece together exactly what that hun— together exactly what that means, but we— together exactly what that means, but we think that's what it means, but we think that's what h-hsn— means, but we think that's what h-hsn nan— means, but we think that's what it-for now-what. it means for now. that's what sns— it means for now. that's what shs us— it means for now. that's what the us coastguard have tweeted this the us coastguard have tweeted shhs manning.— the us coastguard have tweeted this morning. and— the us coastguard have tweeted this morning. and as say this morning. and then as i say on this morning. and then as i say an—nshshs,- this morning. and then as i say on_website, marinei on the on the website, marine hams-son, — on the on the website, marine hams-son, h— on the on the website, marine traffic.com, i don't if we traffic.com, i don't know if we hung— traffic.com, i don't know if we bring-up— traffic.com, i don't know if we can bring-up now- traffic.com, i don't know if we can bring up now well. can bring that up now as well. nus-vs— can bring that up now as well. we've-watching- can bring that up now as well. we've watching the progress we've been watching the progress of sns— we've been watching the progress of shs hansn— we've been watching the progress of the latter and— we've been watching the progress of the latter and it's arriving at of the latter and it's arriving an-shs— of the latter and it's arriving an-shs as— of the latter and it's arriving at-site as we— of the latter and it's arriving at site as we speak. it's at the site as we speak. it's hush— at the site as we speak. it's just homing— at the site as we speak. it's just hanhng h— at the site as we speak. it's just homing in on the on the nnsshass— just homing in on the on the nasshass ah— just homing in on the on the wreckage of the— just homing in on the on the wreckage of the titanic and shah-s— wreckage of the titanic and anus sanyhng— wreckage of the titanic and that's carrying this victor , that's carrying this victor, sooo— that's carrying this victor, sooo snans — that's carrying this victor, 6000 state of— that's carrying this victor, 6000 state of the art rov remote snsnansa— 6000 state of the art rov remote operated vehicle _ 6000 state of the art rov remote operated vehicle that can reach the operated vehicle that can reach shs hsnan — operated vehicle that can reach the bottom of— operated vehicle that can reach the bottom of the— operated vehicle that can reach the bottom of the seabed . it's the bottom of the seabed. it's got— the bottom of the seabed. it's gas snsns— the bottom of the seabed. it's got robotic arms,— the bottom of the seabed. it's got robotic arms, state of the art cameras is— got robotic arms, state of the art cameras is there's a nhshuns— art cameras is there's a picture, there's a picture of it snsns— picture, there's a picture of it snsns as— picture, there's a picture of it snsns as has— picture, there's a picture of it there as it's being lowered into there as it's being lowered into shs washa— there as it's being lowered into shs nasns n— there as it's being lowered into the water. it actually takes 25 psanhs— the water. it actually takes 25 wnw! as — the water. it actually takes 25 people to operate that not snsns.— people to operate that not snsns. n— people to operate that not snsns. n is.— people to operate that not there. it is. it— people to operate that not there. it is. it is- people to operate that not there. it is. it is obviously , there. it is. it is obviously, has— there. it is. it is obviously, it's unmanned— there. it is. it is obviously, it's unmanned when it's beneath the it's unmanned when it's beneath shs washa— it's unmanned when it's beneath shs wasns nus— it's unmanned when it's beneath the water, but it— it's unmanned when it's beneath the water, but it takes 25 assas— the water, but it takes 25 wnw! an— the water, but it takes 25 people on the— the water, but it takes 25 people on the surface operate people on the surface to operate the people on the surface to operate ans-sansnas- people on the surface to operate ans-sansnas ,- people on the surface to operate the-cameras , the - the arms, the cameras, the sensors. so they're hoping that shsy— sensors. so they're hoping that ahsy ass— sensors. so they're hoping that once they get that into the was — once they get that into the was shsy— once they get that into the water, they can— once they get that into the water, they can hopefully try ana— water, they can hopefully try and fins— water, they can hopefully try and find out— water, they can hopefully try and find out where it is. water, they can hopefully try

and find out where it is . it and find out where it is. it sah-s— and find out where it is. it san-s nahss— and find out where it is. it can't raise it— and find out where it is. it can't raise it by- and find out where it is. it can't raise it by itself to the sunass nus— can't raise it by itself to the surface. but what it can do is sns— surface. but what it can do is use the robotic— surface. but what it can do is use the robotic arms to either to use the robotic arms to either as hass— use the robotic arms to either as hss sns— use the robotic arms to either to free this is— use the robotic arms to either to free this is all— to free this is all hypothetical, of course, to free this is all- hypothetical, of course, but to free this is all— hypothetical, of course, but to hass— hypothetical, of course, but to hss shan— hypothetical, of course, but to free titan from _ hypothetical, of course, but to free titan from the wreckage and snsn— free titan from the wreckage and shsn as — free titan from the wreckage and then to attach— free titan from the wreckage and then to attach a— free titan from the wreckage and then to attach a hook essentially- then to attach a hook essentially ,- then to attach a hook essentially , or some sort of essentially, or some sort of aswss— essentially, or some sort of aswss whh— essentially, or some sort of device with a— essentially, or some sort of device with a cable and then whnsh— device with a cable and then whnsh h— device with a cable and then winch it back— device with a cable and then winch it back to— device with a cable and then winch it back to the surface, if hnassa— winch it back to the surface, if hnassa shah— winch it back to the surface, if indeed that is— winch it back to the surface, if indeed that is what is needed. anu— indeed that is what is needed. and has— indeed that is what is needed. and that winching,_ indeed that is what is needed. and that winching, that- indeed that is what is needed. and that winching, that winching process alone to the surface. i've read this morning, paul, it could take three hours. yeah, it could take three hours. yeah, it could do. yeah. f: yeah, it could do. yeah. depending on the sanahhans— could do. yeah. depending on the sanahhans as— could do. yeah. depending on the conditions at sea,— could do. yeah. depending on the conditions at sea, which at the nnannsns— conditions at sea, which at the moment-decent. - conditions at sea, which at the moment decent. yeah conditions at sea, which at the moryeah, decent. yeah conditions at sea, which at the moryeah, i decent. yeah conditions at sea, which at the moryeah, i mean decent. yeah conditions at sea, which at the moryeah, i mean we're nt. yeah conditions at sea, which at the moryeah, i mean we're talking] but yeah, i mean we're talking about— but yeah, i mean we're talking about-shah— but yeah, i mean we're talking about-that are- but yeah, i mean we're talking about that are left now about hours that are left now say— about hours that are left now nsahylh— about hours that are left now really i i - strictly - really. i mean, strictly snsahng— really. i mean, strictly snsahng ,— really. i mean, strictly speaking , the cut off point is speaking, the cut off point is auna— speaking, the cut off point is auna m— speaking, the cut off point is around 212 this— speaking, the cut off point is around 212 this afternoon in ssnns— around 212 this afternoon in ssnns ah— around 212 this afternoon in terms of the— around 212 this afternoon in terms of the levels of oxygen, h-s— terms of the levels of oxygen, has a— terms of the levels of oxygen, has a windsw— terms of the levels of oxygen, it's a window in— terms of the levels of oxygen, it's a window in reality. yeah. ana— it's a window in reality. yeah. and obviously— it's a window in reality. yeah. and obviously it— it's a window in reality. yeah. and obviously it depends on how sass— and obviously it depends on how good is— and obviously it depends on how good is sns— and obviously it depends on how good is the men— and obviously it depends on how good is the men inside have been eking— good is the men inside have been shns aus— good is the men inside have been shng aua saayhns— good is the men inside have been eking out staying calm because shsy-ws— eking out staying calm because ahsy-ws gas— eking out staying calm because ahsy-ws gas wa— eking out staying calm because they've got mr shallow breathing hawsnh— they've got mr shallow breathing hawsnh shsy. — they've got mr shallow breathing haven't they. they've got mr hhanhs— haven't they. they've got mr hsanhs h— haven't they. they've got mr titanic in there— haven't they. they've got mr titanic in there ,_ haven't they. they've got mr titanic in there , they've got titanic in there, they've got nanhsh— titanic in there, they've got hamish harding as well. nxnsnsnss— hamish harding as well. experience explorer. yeah. so

shsy-ws— experience explorer. yeah. so ahsy-ws gas— experience explorer. yeah. so they've got people in there who what— they've got people in there who whh hays— they've got people in there who will have known— they've got people in there who will have known straight away once-in trouble. - will have known straight away once in trouble. right once they were in trouble. right this— once they were in trouble. right thislwhat_ once they were in trouble. right thislwhat ws— once they were in trouble. right this-what we need- once they were in trouble. right this what we need to do. and this is what we need to do. and if this is what we need to do. and h-asns— this is what we need to do. and h-asns h— this is what we need to do. and if-done it well,- this is what we need to do. and if done it well, they if they've done it well, they sns— if they've done it well, they shs sus— if they've done it well, they can eke out that— if they've done it well, they can eke out that window and make that saygsn— can eke out that window and make that oxygen stretch— can eke out that window and make that oxygen stretch out to this ahsnnssn — that oxygen stretch out to this afternoon, late— that oxygen stretch out to this afternoon, late afternoon, early swsnhns. — afternoon, late afternoon, early evening. certainly.— afternoon, late afternoon, early evening. certainly. certainly sns— evening. certainly. certainly ahs assass— evening. certainly. certainly the people who— evening. certainly. certainly the people who are in charge of the people who are in charge of shs ssash— the people who are in charge of the search and— the people who are in charge of the search and rescue, they're nas— the search and rescue, they're naa gang— the search and rescue, they're naa gang sa— the search and rescue, they're not going to give— the search and rescue, they're not going to give up at 2:00 and say,— not going to give up at 2:00 and say, nann— not going to give up at 2:00 and say, ngha, shah-s— not going to give up at 2:00 and say, right, that's it.— not going to give up at 2:00 and say, right, that's it. 3003 say, right, that's it. the bang is say, right, that's it. the bang hs ans— say, right, that's it. the bang is the banging is still going on. we have we haven't heard any 0n. we have we haven't heard any unwas— 0n. we have we haven't heard any unaass. ah— 0n. we have we haven't heard any uaaaas. ah ws— 0n. we have we haven't heard any update. all we know— we have we haven't heard any update. all we know is yesterday snsns— update. all we know is yesterday snsns was— update. all we know is yesterday snsns was-sns- update. all we know is yesterday there was-the day- update. all we know is yesterday there was the day before there was banging the day before snsns— there was banging the day before snsns-hanging. — there was banging the day before there-banging. we- there was banging the day before there banging. we haven't there was banging. we haven't had— there was banging. we haven't has—ans- there was banging. we haven't. has—hhs uaaaas had an update today. the update has— had an update today. the update that nannauy— had an update today. the update that normally comes through from the—6:00! that normally comes through fromi ans—sass us the us coastguard around 6:00 uk sins.— the us coastguard around 6:00 uk hns—snushah- time. that will be crucial. vsah. — time. that will be crucial. vsah. n— time. that will be crucial. vsah. n ws— time. that will be crucial. yeah. if we don't hear anything assass— yeah. if we don't hear anything before—evening. before that later this evening. of before that later this evening. sah—sns- before that later this evening. sah—ans thingsl of course, one of the things has— of course, one of the things shah-assh— of course, one of the things shah-assn a- of course, one of the things- that-been a-learning that we've been a steep learning suns— that we've been a steep learning usw-us— that we've been a steep learning curve-us, hasn't- that we've been a steep learning curve-us, hasn't it,- curve for all of us, hasn't it, say— curve for all of us, hasn't it, say, ahaus— curve for all of us, hasn't it, really, about what goes on under the really, about what goes on under shs — really, about what goes on under shs n— really, about what goes on under the ocean? is that— really, about what goes on under the ocean? f the ocean? is that actually the site of the titanic can be quite noisy because are noisy anyway because there are parts that are still attached to the ship that around the ship that knock around and bits of and floating bits of metal and floating debris. and it's in two ssshans— debris. and it's in two sections. there- : and it's in two sections. there about sections. there are about 600m wan.— sections. there are about 600m aaan-shsn— sections. there are about 600m apart-then each- sections. there are about 600m apart. then each one is apart. and then each one is sunaunasa— apart. and then each one is surrounded debris. of

surrounded by debris. and of course the currents. in fact, i nan-s— course the currents. in fact, i nan-s h— course the currents. in fact, i nan-s h an— course the currents. in fact, i don't if on that— course the currents. in fact, i don't if on that website that we've been tracking, you can see the we've been tracking, you can see shs sns— we've been tracking, you can see the rms titanic— we've been tracking, you can see the rms titanic in— we've been tracking, you can see the rms titanic in one area and snsn— the rms titanic in one area and shsn yau— the rms titanic in one area and then you actually— the rms titanic in one area and then you actually see the wnsshass— then you actually see the wnsshags h— then you actually see the wreckage in another area hssauss ah— wreckage in another area because, of course, when it sank,— because, of course, when it sank,.anything- because, of course, when it sank, anything does, that sank, as anything does, that sinks— sank, as anything does, that shnhs sns— sank, as anything does, that sinks the currents then carry it. sinks the currents then carry in sah.— sinks the currents then carry in vsahlh-s— sinks the currents then carry it. yeah. it's quite it. yeah. so it's quite it's nuns— it. yeah. so it's quite it's auhslwhas— it. yeah. so it's quite it's quite wide area. broke in two quite a wide area. broke in two ana— quite a wide area. broke in two and wash— quite a wide area. broke in two and broken into— quite a wide area. broke in two and broken into surrounded by ashns— and broken into surrounded by ashns ana— and broken into surrounded by debris and also— and broken into surrounded by debris and also with the so it nahss— debris and also with the so it makes sonar particularly ahhsuh— makes sonar particularly difficult-well- makes sonar particularly difficult-well sonar difficult as well because sonar is effectively— difficult as well because sonar is effectively hitting hitting the is effectively hitting hitting shs hanan — is effectively hitting hitting the bottom ,_ is effectively hitting hitting the bottom , hitting the seabed. the bottom, hitting the seabed. ana— the bottom, hitting the seabed. ana-sanss— the bottom, hitting the seabed. and-comes back- the bottom, hitting the seabed. and comes back up. and then it comes back up. hus— and then it comes back up. wuss-han- you're looking for irregularities in the surface, nann— irregularities in the surface, nghw on— irregularities in the surface, right? oh, that— irregularities in the surface, right? oh, that looks like sansshhns— right? oh, that looks like something unusual. but it's something unusual. but if it's shang— something unusual. but if it's shhng h— something unusual. but if it's shhng in an— something unusual. but if it's sitting in on lon— something unusual. but if it's sitting in on lon a- something unusual. but if it's sitting in on on a wreckage sitting in on a on a wreckage sns— sitting in on a on a wreckage shs shah— sitting in on a on a wreckage shs that is— sitting in on a on a wreckage site that is already irregular, snsn— site that is already irregular, shsn h— site that is already irregular, then it makes— site that is already irregular, then it makes it— site that is already irregular, then it makes it even harder to hush— then it makes it even harder to ahsh un— then it makes it even harder to ahsh up whsns— then it makes it even harder to pick up where titan would pick up where the titan would be. pick up where the titan would has-knaw- pick up where the titan would be.-know what- pick up where the titan would. be.-know what-very be. yeah, you know what is very sad— be. yeah, you know what is very saalhaah— be. yeah, you know what is very saalhaahlhs— be. yeah, you know what is very sad look is oceangate, the sad to look at is oceangate, the sannany— sad to look at is oceangate, the sanaany ana— sad to look at is oceangate, the company and oceangate expeditions— company and oceangate expeditions both have quite busy hwhnsn— expeditions both have quite busy hwhnsn assas— expeditions both have quite busy twitter feeds where they were aashns — twitter feeds where they were aashng ahaaas— twitter feeds where they were posting photos and comments ahaus— posting photos and comments ahaus sns— posting photos and comments about the build— posting photos and comments about the build up to this trip ana— about the build up to this trip and hass— about the build up to this trip and hats ah— about the build up to this trip and lots of lovely smiley photographs— and lots of lovely smiley photographs of everybody aagsshsn— photographs of everybody together and— photographs of everybody together and the work that had sans— together and the work that had sans insa— together and the work that had gone ha ha. — together and the work that had gone into it. and— together and the work that had

gone into it. and it- together and the work that had gone into it. 2 . gone into it. and it is incredibly poignant now as you're looking at this , of how you're looking at this, of how stark the contrast is to how the families must feel now . yeah, families must feel now. yeah, absolutely. and there's ausshans— absolutely. and there's questions. i— .0.«a and there's questions. i mean, there's aways— questions. i mean, there's ahways gang— questions. i mean, there's always going to be questions, hus— always going to be questions, huh ausshans— always going to be questions, but questions about why it took shsn — but questions about why it took shsn lhans— but questions about why it took shsn ilong sa— but questions about why it took them i long to -the - them so long to alert the ansnsan— them so long to alert the american coastguard. yeah a ' 2 american coastguard. yeah > and one american coastguard. yeah > and wauhu— american coastguard. yeah > and one would have— american coastguard. yeah > and one would have thought that will be that will be one of be that will that will be one of the key lines inquiry once the key lines of inquiry once this resolved. hopefully this is resolved. hopefully in a good whatever good way. either way, whatever happens, will be line happens, that will be 1—1 line of inquiry. the company of inquiry. why did the company take the adequate take all the adequate precautions? it could have? did it everything could ? we it do everything it could? we always add the caveat that i know a lot has been talked about. video controller, about. the video controller, about. the video controller, about that a lot of about the fact that a lot of this was kind of bolted together from various the ceo talked about getting parts from camper world and on the on the face of it, there is some very basic stuff there . but we know behind stuff there. but we know behind the scenes, though, this was very innovative, cutting edge technology because there were very few vehicles in the world that can reach this debt. and that can reach this debt. and thatis that can reach this debt. and that is why it's unregulated . that is why it's unregulated. that's why there's no industry standard . there's no one that

standard. there's no one that comes along and inspects it and says, that makes the says, yeah, that makes all the safety standards. we're going safety standards. so we're going to it because in the to pass it because like in the early days of the invention of the no one came along and the car, no one came along and said henry ford, that's said to henry ford, well, that's yeah, some bits wrong yeah, you've got some bits wrong there. can't pass that there. we can't pass that because it's because you know, it's interesting to various interesting talking to various companies this companies involved in this sort of activity. now, the word nsguhahan— of activity. now, the word regulation keeps- ec. , .«a now, the word regulation keeps coming up. i susasss— regulation keeps coming up. i susassa-sahng— regulation keeps coming up. i suspect-going to- regulation keeps coming up. i suspect going to become suspect it's going to become a nssuhassa— suspect it's going to become a regulated-yeah,- suspect it's going to become a regulated -yeah, one. suspect it's going to become a. regulated -yeah, one would regulated area. yeah, one would have so see have thought so. so we'll see how it out. but for i how it pans out. but for now, i think those are questions for later down the line. at the moment, it's all about getting there it's literally there quickly and it's literally hour by hour. yeah, this story and family keep saying and it's the family keep saying keep praying. yeah, absolutely. what—as- keep praying. yeah, absolutely.| what_at this? what else can they do at this? naut— what else can they do at this? nauh hawhns.— what else can they do at this? paul hawkins,-national- paul hawkins, our national reporter be with reporter paul will be back with us keep you updated on us and we'll keep you updated on the to find the the race to try to find the titan submersible . you know, titan submersible. you know, some of titan submersible. you know, ah sns— titan submersible. you know, some of the graphics- titan submersible. you know, some of the graphics as- of?" you know, some of the graphics as well of the some of the graphics as well of shs sns— some of the graphics as well of shs shs ana— some of the graphics as well of the site and your— some of the graphics as well of the site and your newspaper. some of the graphics as well of the site and your newspaper . the the site and your newspaper. the nah— the site and your newspaper. the nah has— the site and your newspaper. the nah has hssn— the site and your newspaper. the mail has been remarkable on this say.— mail has been remarkable on this say. hhsy-ns— mail has been remarkable on this story. they're brilliant when you— story. they're brilliant when yau nssa— story. they're brilliant when you need these— story. they're brilliant when you need these explainers and ah— you need these explainers and ah sns— you need these explainers and some of the graphics demonstrating how deep the

titans— demonstrating how deep the hsanhs hs— demonstrating how deep the titanic is on— demonstrating how deep the titanic is on the— demonstrating how deep the titanic is on the bottom of the ocean are so chilling that you just— ocean are so chilling that you just sannas— ocean are so chilling that you just cannot countenance how any fanny— just cannot countenance how any fanny nnnnshs— just cannot countenance how any family member thought it was a saaa— family member thought it was a saaa hasa— family member thought it was a gaaa hasa .— family member thought it was a good idea . yeah. _ family member thought it was a good idea . yeah. �*fw�*e. good idea. yeah. what to elle edwards 19 year old your loved ones to go out there, your children or your husband . you children or your husband. you know, what's your plan ”0“ ” you know, what's your plan b? what's the know, what's your plan b? what's shs sssasn— know, what's your plan b? what's the escape route?— know, what's your plan b? what's the escape route? what is the wash— the escape route? what is the worst case scenario? and when yau— worst case scenario? and when yau haah— worst case scenario? and when yau haah as— worst case scenario? and when you look at some— worst case scenario? and when you look at some of these social nsaha— you look at some of these social nsaha assas— you look at some of these social media feeds, it's— you look at some of these social media feeds, it's almost like swsnyhaay— media feeds, it's almost like swsnyhaay an— media feeds, it's almost like everybody on the and i've been snsns— everybody on the and i've been there because _ everybody on the and i've been there because my— everybody on the and i've been there because my ex husband used to there because my ex husband used a as— there because my ex husband used ha hs ans— there because my ex husband used ha hs ah— there because my ex husband used to be one of these— there because my ex husband used to be one of these adventurers. swsnyhaay— to be one of these adventurers. swsnyhaay ssas— to be one of these adventurers. swsnyhaay ssas sa— to be one of these adventurers. everybody gets so wrapped up in the everybody gets so wrapped up in ans—sns- everybody gets so wrapped up ini the—the optimism everybody gets so wrapped up in the the the optimism everybody gets so wrapped up in the the excitement the optimism everybody gets so wrapped up in the the excitement and optimism everybody gets so wrapped up in the the excitement and it)timism everybody gets so wrapped up in the the excitement and it almost and the excitement and it almost like and the excitement and it almost hhs-nssas— and the excitement and it almost like-needslbe_ and the excitement and it almost like needs be somebody like there needs to be somebody in like there needs to be somebody hn-naan— like there needs to be somebody hn-naan sa— like there needs to be somebody hn-naan ha 90— like there needs to be somebody hn-naan ha ga ,— like there needs to be somebody in room to go , hang on in the room to go, hang on a nhnuss. — in the room to go, hang on a nhnuss. vau— in the room to go, hang on a minute. you think- in the room to go, hang on a minute. /0. "

could go up by as much as a half a% we'll know at noon. that's right. it would be of course, sns— right. it would be of course, shs nann— right. it would be of course, shs hank ah— ” a; it would be of course, the bank of england's 13th the bank of england's13th consecutive— the bank of england's13th consecutive comes as consecutive rise. it comes as hnhahan— consecutive rise. it comes as hnhahan-as- consecutive rise. it comes as inflation-atlhighl consecutive rise. it comes asi inflation-atlhigh of inflation remains at a high of san— inflation remains at a high of saw as— inflation remains at a high of saw as au— inflation remains at a high of 8.7% at our very— inflation remains at a high of 8.7% at our very own business. kna— 8.7% at our very own business. and ssanannss— 8.7% at our very own business. and economics editor liam nakhgan— and economics editor liam halliganlwith- and economics editor liam halligan with in the halligan is with us in the sauna. — halligan is with us in the studio. this— halligan is with us in the studio. this is— halligan is with us in the studio. this is the news that none-wanted- studio. this is the news that none -wanted . - studio. this is the news that none wanted . . studio. this is the news that- none -wanted . it's the news none of us wanted. it's the news that's going dominate british that's going to dominate british politics the next general politics until the next general election. it is the economy , election. it is the economy, stupid. as bill clinton's campaign chief said back in 1992, the economy's make or break political parties, they win or lose elections , win or lose elections, particularly at turning points in economies at times like this . those inflation numbers yesterday were a shock . the yesterday were a shock. the headune yesterday were a shock. the headline rate of inflation stayed at 8.7. that's compared to 4% in the us. and just over 6% in the eurozone. britain is now an outlier and that, of course 12. 1% in greece of all countries. normally course 12. 1% in greece of all countries . normally the basket countries. normally the basket ah— countries. normally the basket ah europea— countries. normally the basket case of europe, 2.1%_ {0- normally the basket case of europe, 2.1% in 00- normally the basket case of europe, 2.1% in greece ana— case of europe, 2.1% in greece and sh — case of europe, 2.1% in greece and we're 8.7. and- case of europe, 2.1% in greece and we're 8.7. ' 2 22 and we're 8.7. and indeed, the greek government's currently paying greek government's currently paying less to borrow than the british government. that's where

we are such a mess of it. british government. that's where we are such a mess of it . the british government. that's where we are such a mess of it. the uk government's debt went above 100% of gdp in may. we also learned yesterday another huge story that was barely remarked upon because of the inflation numbers. food inflation. that's a big reason why price pressures are staying high and also what we call core inflation that actually went up that strips out volatile items like food and energy and imported items. it's all about domestic price pressures. i think a lot of that is coming from those years and years and years when the bank of england was creating huge amounts of money, there were very few of us in the media who were complaining about that those chickens are now coming home to that's a big home to roost. that's a big reason we've got this inflation. because because have to because because we have to be posh,— because because we have to be hash-wss— because because we have to be hash-wss-ws- because because we have to be posh,-we?-we talki posh, don't we? when we talk ahaus— posh, don't we? when we talk ahaus-ana— posh, don't we? when we talk about-and call- posh, don't we? when we talk about-and call it- about the city and call it quantitative— quantitative easing. quantitative quantitative sashns— quantitative quantitative easing, because if you don't put the easing, because if you don't put shs yaus— easing, because if you don't put ahs yaus nas— easing, because if you don't put the you're not allowed to you're ahwausky— the you're not allowed to you're obviously thick.— the you're not allowed to you're obviously thick. y0- ”0 obviously thick. you're not allowed to talk about it. but what mean allowed to talk about it. but. what-meanlprinting what we really mean is printing nsy — what we really mean is printing nsy -h-s— what we really mean is printing money. -it's not- what we really mean is printing money. . 2 money. well, it's not printing physical money. it's creating digital money. and before the pandemic, years,

pandemic, for about ten years, we and lots of we did create lots and lots of money. an emergency money. it was an emergency measure 2008 financial measure after the 2008 financial crisis. the economic crisis. but the economic medicine became like a lifestyle choice, economic crack cocaine. it pushed up stocks and bonds. it pushed up stocks and bonds. it meant governments could borrow cheaply because it rigged bond markets. but of course, it meant those of us that didn't have assets. we got hammered as asset prices everywhere else went up. but this quantitative easing we've had since covid, that's gone straight into the bank accounts of firms and households through furlough scheme , business recovery loan. scheme, business recovery loan. it paid for all those lockdown measures, creating money from nothing. and that extra demand is now pushing into the an economy that's struggling to supply things with ongoing post covid, logistical issues. and thatis covid, logistical issues. and that is a big reason for the inflation. it was so obvious, shaush— inflation. it was so obvious, ahaugh nan — inflation. it was so obvious, though liam wasn't- 0“ it was so obvious, though liam wasn't it? 3:20-- though liam wasn't it? well, af— though liam wasn't it? well, some of us have— though liam wasn't it? well, some of us have been writing it for years and we were called and we were called stupid, but it was so obvious when we was just so obvious when we started, did cashing out started, just did cashing out like during the pandemic. like money during the pandemic. we crack open a book, we crack open a history book,

you bank of england you know, the bank of england governor got a phd in governor has got a phd in economic history. well, what use is you want to know about is that you want to know about money? you open history, money? you crack open a history, but remember the but you might remember that the roman collapsed because roman empire collapsed because it increased the it massively increased the money supply. germany collapsed supply. weimar germany collapsed because massively increased because it massively increased the supply. if this stuff the money supply. if this stuff works, zimbabwe, would in works, zimbabwe, we would be in the cannot become more the g7. you cannot become more prosperous by creating lots and lots and lots of extra money, which is what we've done in the western world over the past ten years. almost nobody years. and almost nobody has remarked upon well, some of remarked upon it. well, some of us we were bang on the us did, and we were bang on the money andrew bailey he the money andrew bailey is he the wash— money andrew bailey is he the worst governor— money andrew bailey is he the worst governor of— w�*cg andrew bailey is he the worst governor of the bank of snskana— worst governor of the bank of snskana kn— worst governor of the bank of england in modern history? weak.— england in modern history? weak—as- england in modern history? well,_be careful. well, i've got to be careful here because i don't think the right i mean, no one has been earlier more forthright earlier and more forthright in criticising andrew bailey than me. who was writing me. i'm the guy who was writing the telegraph in march 19th, 2021. we got start raising 2021. we got to start raising interest now when interest rates now when inflation was less than 1, i was saying we've got to start raising interest rates now to get to get our our increases in early to convince the markets that we're serious because there's a big inflation coming.

but if you now now panic and you do massive interest rate rises and get rid of the governor of the bank of england, the markets are just going to absolutely wallop what what they wallop you. what what did they think happen in think was going to happen in like what if you said this they've for they've been printing money for ten years. this has been a ten years. this has been under a sansswahws— .0�* yn0;y5i”5 this has been under a conservative government .0�* «055 this has been under a conservative government for 13 ysas— conservative government for 13 ysas what— conservative government for 13 years. what did— conservative government for 13 years. what did they what are shsss— years. what did they what are these individuals— years. what did they what are these individuals what is their kashss— these individuals what is their kashss — these individuals what is their was was— these individuals what is their logic? . 2”0- these individuals what is theiri logic? it's-groupthink, logic? it's called groupthink, bev. it's confirmation bev. it's called confirmation bias. called arrogance. bias. it's called arrogance. it's thinking that you it's called thinking that you know than everyone else know better than everyone else outside your little bubble . the outside your little bubble. the bank of england from mark carney onwards, has been riven with groupthink. the monetary policy committee . it doesn't appoint committee. it doesn't appoint economists actually think economists who actually think differently and heterodox thinkers think outside the box. you know, i know many of them and they never get a look in because you have to be one of the treasury's approved, nice, shiny people that thinks the same as everyone else. we've same way as everyone else. we've got a disease in this country. we don't like clever people who are need those are outsiders, but we need those clever outsiders to make good decisions. then quoted on

decisions. but then quoted on the page of the times, the front page of the times, karen ward, managing director karen ward, a managing director of adviser to of jp morgan, an adviser to jeremy hunt, saying the bank of england governor got wrong. england governor got this wrong. well , almost everyone is now well, almost everyone is now saying— well, almost everyone is now saying ins— well, almost everyone is now saying the bank— well, almost everyone is now saying the bank of england governor got— saying the bank of england governor got his nickname is the hank— governor got his nickname is the hank ah— governor got his nickname is the bank of england,— governor got his nickname is the bank of england, he deserves bank of england, and he deserves ii. — bank of england, and he deserves ii. nus— bank of england, and he deserves in but i— bank of england, and he deserves it. but i would— bank of england, and he deserves it. but i would-say- bank of england, and he deserves it. but i would-say to- bank of england, and he deserves it. but i would -say to get. it. but i would still say to get rid the governor now in the rid of the governor now in the middle crisis is just it middle of a crisis is just it would be panic stations and it would be panic stations and it would cause more pain on the ordinary british people trying to weather their mortgage , to weather their mortgage, trying to weather their personal. but it might be what some parts of the media could do it. andy haldane, who is his asphy— it. andy haldane, who is his asauiy. ns— it. andy haldane, who is his deputy, he could— . andy haldane, who is his deputy, he could come back. 0 deputy, he could come back. he sauna.— deputy, he could come back. he sauiu. nus— deputy, he could come back. he sauiu. but i— deputy, he could come back. he could. butl don't— deputy, he could come back. he could. but i don't think you change horses in the middle of a race. i think that's the wrong thing to do. and no one's been, as i say earlier, and more forthright than me. but we you know, this is not just politics where and goes where somebody resigns and goes back house in the back to their big house in the country. is financial country. this is financial markets really serious markets. this is really serious stuff. this is not theatre. this is what the determines people's lives terms of financial lives in terms of financial outcomes. and that's that's

there's nothing more important. so what happening right now so what is happening right now at so what is happening right now ai-ah— so what is happening right now at-of england?- so what is happening right now at of england? tell us at the bank of england? tell us iaks— at the bank of england? tell us iaks-ihis. - at the bank of england? tell us iaks-ihis. sa- at the bank of england? tell usj take -this. so what's take us behind this. so what's happening right now is they've they've been meeting for the last nine last two days. this is the nine people on the they will have already made the decision because speak, because there are, as we speak, economy and economics editors like are locked in. like me who are locked in. there's a there's a there's a kind of a room in the bank of england. i've been there many times. you have to check in your phone, check in all your devices, your check in your brain. get given the brain. you get given the information you get given the press then can press release, and then you can write piece. when write your piece. so then when 12:00 comes the decision is 12:00 comes and the decision is made available to the world, you can button and it's can press a button and it's instantly on your instantly published on your newspaper . not there newspaper website. i'm not there because talking to you because i've been talking to you and i'm going standing and i'm going to be standing outside england on outside the bank of england on camera at 12 noon when this decision made. would it decision is made. would it be a quasi— decision is made. would it be a auansi an— decision is made. would it be a quansi an a— decision is made. would it be a quarter or a half%_ decision is made. would it be a quarter or a half% i— 202. 0“ 2 would it be a quarter or a half% i think 202 0“ 2 would it be a quarter or a half% i think it wiii— quarter or a half% i think it wiii anahahiy— quarter or a half% i think it will probably be a quarter on haianss. — will probably be a quarter on balance. but— will probably be a quarter on balance. but there- will probably be a quarter on balance. ”0 ”0 will probably be a quarter on balance. but there are lots of people calling for a half now. and that will an increase and so that will be an increase in rates from 4.5 in interest rates from 4.5 to 4.75. the 13th successive

increase in interest rates. i actually think and this will surprise a lot of people for having called for rate rises way before practically anyone else in the british commentariat. i actually think this latest rate rise is a mistake. they should hold fire now because you've already got 12 rises in the tank. they take a long to tank. they take a long time to come through. we should be focusing on convincing financial markets that are going to markets that we are going to start reversing this quantitative this quantitative easing, this massive increase in the money supply that we've seen. is supply that we've seen. that is the that is one way to get the way that is one way to get down inflation well as down inflation as well as removing taxes. and net removing some taxes. and net zero, the take zero, let's take the let's take the levies your net zero the levies off your net zero levies, off your energy bill. let's take let's take vat off of fuel that that's that's 5% off there that will help lower prices. it will put money back in asaais-s— prices. it will put money back in people's pockets— 2 it will put money back in people's pockets and it would cut in people's pockets and it would sui inhiaiian— in people's pockets and it would cut inflation overnight. absolutely— cut inflation overnight. absolutely so why don't they do it? absolutely so why don't they do in — absolutely so why don't they do in nssauss— absolutely so why don't they do it? because politicians- absolutely so why don't they do it? because politicians don't like to changing like to be seen to be changing their minds. signed up to that iuiisiaus— their minds. signed up to that ludicrous, ruinous— their minds. signed up to that ludicrous, ruinous net- ” 25 signed up to that ludicrous, ruinous net zero. i ihink— ludicrous, ruinous net zero. i ihink inas— ludicrous, ruinous net zero. i think that-part— ludicrous, ruinous net zero. i think that part of it. think that is part of it. but i think— think that is part of it. but i think sns— think that is part of it. but i think the main— think that is part of it. but i think the main reason for the inflation we've got now is

massive money creation. even germany are abandoning- 0 even germany are abandoning lot of germany are abandoning a lot of ihsss. — germany are abandoning a lot of ihsss. sa— germany are abandoning a lot of these. so germany,— germany are abandoning a lot of these. -"«a 0 germany are abandoning a lot of these. - 2 these. so germany, even though these. so germany, even though the greens are power, they the greens are in power, they have , their have taken their energy, their net levies off household net zero levies off household energy we should do energy bills and we should do the , in my view. yeah. and the same, in my view. yeah. and it's a coalition with the- 0 4 and it's a coalition with the green nany. —ihs- it's a coalition with the green party. _the green party. absolutely. the green party— party. absolutely. the green party are in power and even they can do it. but apparently we can't. i've been handed some wiswslaa— can't. i've been handed some ido wani— can't. i've been handed some views. ido want to— 25“. i've been handed some views. do want to get 25“ . i've been handed some views. do want to get to one views. i do want to get to one assass— views. i do want to get to one hshais yau— views. i do want to get to one before you -which - views. i do want to get to one before you -which i- views. i do want to get to one before you which i have before you go, which i do have to before you go, which i do have ia hays—ia- before you go, which i do have to have—to this- to have an answer to this aussiian— to have an answer to this question, which is from ian. if yaus— question, which is from ian. if you're watching— question, which is from ian. if you're watching with you're watching ian, bear with nann— you're watching ian, bear with nslkian has— you're watching ian, bear with me. alan has said, well, me. but alan has said, well, kian— me. but alan has said, well, khan-nan — me. but alan has said, well, alan liam halligan, by far alan said liam halligan, by far the-financial— alan said liam halligan, by far the financial commentator the best financial commentator on the best financial commentator an—suiis- on british television. quite sighs.— on british television. quite sighs-wha- on british television. quite right-what i. on british television. quite. right.-what i don't right. john said. what i don't unisisiana— right. john said. what i don't understand we're paying understand is why we're paying so understand is why we're paying sa —sisswis- understand is why we're paying so _electric bills. i so much for our electric bills. ws— so much for our electric bills. wsihaws— so much for our electric bills. wsihaws a— so much for our electric bills. we .have a green - so much for our electric bills. we have a green on our we all have a green levy on our hawsi— we all have a green levy on our aawsn hiiis— we all have a green levy on our power hiiis ia— we all have a green levy on our power bills to fund— we all have a green levy on our power bills to fund all these saias— power bills to fund all these saias ana— power bills to fund all these solars and windmills. the solars and windmills. so the niiiish— british consumer paid for and owns _windmills.- british consumer paid for and owns windmills. a owns these windmills. it's a nsssy— owns these windmills. it's a nsssy-— owns these windmills. it's a messy---longl owns these windmills. it's a- messy-.-long have messy situation. how long have you— messy situation. how long have yau sais— messy situation. how long have yau sais ksah— messy situation. how long have you got? yeah, quite. um, this is-aussiian— you got? yeah, quite. um, this is-question that- you got? yeah, quite. um, this is question that have to is the question that we have to get is the question that we have to ssh-is— is the question that we have to ass-is ii— is the question that we have to ass-is ii ahaui- is the question that we have to get-is it about my.- is the question that we have to get is it about my. you get to. liam is it about my. you asas— get to. liam is it about my. you asas ia— get to. liam is it about my. you gs ia gsi— get to. liam is it about my. you manage to get your underpants and manage to get your underpants ans—i— manage to get your underpants ans—i iii- and shirt yesterday i did nags— and shirt yesterday i did manage. heard this. i just to manage. i heard this. i just to explain-— manage. i heard this. i just to explain-iwas_ manage. i heard this. i just to explain. was kitchen. explain. i was in my kitchen. vaun— explain. i was in my kitchen. haw-sini— explain. i was in my kitchen. your-still live- explain. i was in my kitchen. your still live when explain. i was in my kitchen.- your- still live when you your mic was still live when you

were . you obviously were leaving. you obviously asni— were leaving. you obviously asni yaw— were leaving. you obviously wasn't your fault. and mike and ham— wasn't your fault. and mike and nan-gai— wasn't your fault. and mike and iian-gai ia- wasn't your fault. and mike and iian-gai ia ga- liam said, i've got to go hssauss— liam said, i've got to go because-got- liam said, i've got to go because-got to- liam said, i've got to go because got to and liam said, i've got to go- because-got to.and buy because i've got to go and buy a shin— because i've got to go and buy a shin ani— because i've got to go and buy a new shirt and some— because i've got to go and buy a new shirt and some underpants. i new shirt and some underpants. i-san— new shirt and some underpants. i-san yau— new shirt and some underpants. i-san yau spans— new shirt and some underpants. i-san yau spans ns- new shirt and some underpants. i-can you spare me for- new shirt and some underpants. i-can you spare me for an. i said, can you spare me for an houn on i said, can you spare me for an hour, on the desk? can hour, guys on the desk? can i not be on telly for an hour? because i've got to go buy some underpants. let me tell you, i came to work on monday. are you an underpants came to work on monday. are you an-underpants-come. came to work on monday. are you. an-underpants-come on. an m&s underpants man? come on. i to an m&s underpants man? come on. i-aa wank.— an m&s underpants man? come on. i-aa wank. insis— an m&s underpants man? come on. i-to work. there are— an m&s underpants man? come on. i-to work. there are other- i came to work. there are other underpants available. i came underpants are available. i came to work on monday morning and i haven't i've haven't been home. i've literally home. i've literally not been home. i've not had shower in literally not been home. i've not hadlshower in that. - literally not been home. i've not hadlshower in that. i. literally not been home. i've. not hadlshower in that. i have not had a shower in that. i have hssauss— not had a shower in that. i have hssauss i-ws— not had a shower in that. i have because i've been— not had a shower in that. i have because i've been staying in in haisis— because i've been staying in in haisis in— because i've been staying in in haisis in ani— because i've been staying in in hotels in and around paddington. i'm hotels in and around paddington. in just— hotels in and around paddington. in just in— hotels in and around paddington. in us in has— hotels in and around paddington. i'm just i'm not going— hotels in and around paddington. i'm just i'm not going to- hotels in and around paddington. i'm just i'm not going to make it until because i'm it home until friday because i'm going tonight with going to barnsley tonight with nigel. it's nothing personal, nui— nigel. it's nothing personal, huiliusi— nigel. it's nothing personal, huiliusi-a- nigel. it's nothing personal, buthust-a little- but i just moved a little hunhsn— but i just moved a little hunhsn-n- but i just moved a littlei further- it cheered but i just moved a little- further-it cheered me up. further away. it cheered me up. no i was doing the no end when i was doing the washing in the kitchen washing up in the kitchen yesterday afternoon. that liam, right. thank liam will be right. thank you, liam will be hask— right. thank you, liam will be back-throughout- back with us throughout the programme-— back with us throughout the programme. remind you programme. just to remind you inas— programme. just to remind you ihai ws-ii— programme. just to remind you ihai ws-ii gsi— programme. just to remind you that we'll get the _ programme. just to remind you that we'll get the decision at iian — that we'll get the decision at noon. liam saying rather noon. liam saying he'd rather ihsy— noon. liam saying he'd rather ansy—nsssy- noon. liam saying he'd rather. ansy—assay nush they didn't, but we pretty much ihink—n-s- they didn't, but we pretty muchi think—it's almost think they're going. it's almost sshainiy— think they're going. it's almost certainly. are certainly. yeah yeah. rates are going rise. okay. liam going to rise. okay. liam nannigan.— going to rise. okay. liam hannigan. liam - 20 “2 ” okay. liam hannigan. liam hannigan, who has got hannigan. liam hannigan, who has gai his— hannigan. liam hannigan, who has gai his sisan— hannigan. liam hannigan, who has got his clean underpants. the

niiaish— got his clean underpants. the british - secretary, - british defence secretary, ben wallace, out wallace, has ruled himself out of the position of contention for the position of contention for the position of secretary of nato secretary general. right. this is this is the ahisiai— right. this is this is the official line. _ right. this is this is the official line. he- t 2 this is this is the official line. he said he's withdrawing— official line. he said he's withdrawing because of unresolved _ withdrawing because of unresolved within the unresolved issues within the aiganisaiian— unresolved issues within the. organisation _the organisation that in the us, the us organisation that in the us, the us uniss— organisation that in the us, the us united states— organisation that in the us, the us united states wants the sushi— us united states wants the current stoltenberg current chief gen stoltenberg to saniinus— current chief gen stoltenberg to continue-role— continue in the role effectively. - continue in the role effectively. biden continue in the role- effectively. .biden stopped effectively. joe biden stopped the effectively. joe biden stopped ins—iakingl the british candidate taking the sais.— the british candidate taking the sais-nann— the british candidate taking the role. - french believe i the british candidate taking the. role-french believe that role. so the french believe that nato secretary generals should come the european come from within the european union. apparently con coughlin is the defence editor at the telegraph and joins us now. good morning . con, just unravel this morning. con, just unravel this for us here. this is a bit of politics going on with everybody making the statements that they want us to hear. well, it's a very it's a very murky affair. and i think, first of all, ben waiiass— and i think, first of all, ben wallace did— and i think, first of all, ben wallace did want this job and ash— wallace did want this job and nsn waiiass— wallace did want this job and ben wallace has— wallace did want this job and ben wallace has been lobbying for ben wallace has been lobbying has his— ben wallace has been lobbying has his iah— ben wallace has been lobbying for this job for— ben wallace has been lobbying for this job for about the last ysas.— for this job for about the last ysan i— for this job for about the last ysan i sa— for this job for about the last year. i mean, every every nato sunnin— year. i mean, every every nato sunnii. swsny— year. i mean, every every nato summit, every every trip he nakss— summit, every every trip he makes abroad— summit, every every trip he makes abroad ,_ summit, every every trip he makes abroad , his number, the makes abroad, his number, the nunnsnh— makes abroad, his number, the number one item— makes abroad, his number, the number one item on his agenda is naks— number one item on his agenda is naks ns— number one item on his agenda is naks ns wkio— number one item on his agenda is make me nato secretary—general . make me nato secretary—general. so make me nato secretary—general. sa snsns-s— make me nato secretary—general. sa ihsis-s na—

make me nato secretary—general. so there's no doubt— make me nato secretary—general. so there's no doubt that where whsis— so there's no doubt that where whsis nsn— so there's no doubt that where where ben wants— so there's no doubt that where where ben wants this to go, but as yau— where ben wants this to go, but as yau say— where ben wants this to go, but as yau say .— where ben wants this to go, but as yau say . hs-s— where ben wants this to go, but as you say , he's run into some as you say, he's run into some nsssy— as you say, he's run into some ansiiy sain— as you say, he's run into some pretty stiff opposition, both han— pretty stiff opposition, both from america,— pretty stiff opposition, both from america, but also from wishin— from america, but also from within europe.— from america, but also from within europe. both france and ssinany.— within europe. both france and ssinany. i— within europe. both france and germany. i understand and are not germany. i understand and are nai happy— germany. i understand and are nai haaay ai— germany. i understand and are nai haaay ai ans— germany. i understand and are not happy at the prospect, not iusi— not happy at the prospect, not iusi ah— not happy at the prospect, not iusi ah iii— not happy at the prospect, not just of mr wallace getting a job,— just of mr wallace getting a iah nui— just of mr wallace getting a iah hui a— just of mr wallace getting a job, but a british a british aaiiiisian— job, but a british a british politician getting this plum job and inas— politician getting this plum job and that opposition has now asisuaisi— and that opposition has now asnsuaasa iii— and that opposition has now persuaded mr wallace to throw in the persuaded mr wallace to throw in ihs iawsi— persuaded mr wallace to throw in the towel, towel— persuaded mr wallace to throw in the towel, towel .— persuaded mr wallace to throw in the towel, towel . that's the towel, towel. that's assaning— the towel, towel. that's according to _ the towel, towel. that's according to the economist . according to the economist. coni— according to the economist. can. why— according to the economist. can. why why— according to the economist. con, why why would - according to the economist. con, why why would why is it a matter for biden? i know they're the biggest contributors to nato. is it is it as crude as that, that that's why they've got so much clout over who is or isn't. the secretary—general well that's a good question, andrew. imean, well that's a good question, andrew. i mean, i think first of gt.— andrew. i mean, i think first of ah. i— andrew. i mean, i think first of ah. i ihink— andrew. i mean, i think first of all, i think whitehall- ' 2 i mean, i think first of all, i think whitehall will be shy— all, i think whitehall will be very disappointed that the biden administration— very disappointed that the biden administration is— very disappointed that the biden administration is playing up in this administration is playing up in his way.—

administration is playing up in ihis way. giwsn— administration is playing up in this way, given that they after the this way, given that they after ihs us. — this way, given that they after the us, britain— this way, given that they after the us, britain has been the mass— the us, britain has been the most forthright— the us, britain has been the most forthright and supportive aiiy— most forthright and supportive aiiy ah— most forthright and supportive aiiy ah ins— most forthright and supportive ally of the ukrainians since kussia— ally of the ukrainians since russia invaded— ally of the ukrainians since russia invaded last year. so i ihink— russia invaded last year. so i ihink insis— russia invaded last year. so i think there will— russia invaded last year. so i think there will be an enormous aaun— think there will be an enormous aauni ah— think there will be an enormous amount of disappointment on this . ins— amount of disappointment on this . the americans— amount of disappointment on this . the americans say— amount of disappointment on this . the americans say they want saniinuiiy— . the americans say they want continuity and— . the americans say they want continuity and they want stoltenberg _ continuity and they want stoltenberg stay for another ysas— stoltenberg stay for another ysan ani— stoltenberg stay for another ysai ana sa— stoltenberg stay for another year and can see that that makes sense because ,_ year and can see that that makes sense because , you— year and can see that that makes sense because , you know, we've sense because, you know, we've got sense because, you know, we've gai w-wss— sense because, you know, we've gai gai— sense because, you know, we've gai gai ihis— sense because, you know, we've got we've got this very problematic- got we've got this very problematic issue of whether to giws— problematic issue of whether to giws wkiains— problematic issue of whether to give ukraine member of nato. and i give ukraine member of nato. and iihink— give ukraine member of nato. and i ihink .— give ukraine member of nato. and iihink . yau— give ukraine member of nato. and i think , you know,— give ukraine member of nato. and i think , you know, that needs to i think, you know, that needs to be i think, you know, that needs to is waiksa— i think, you know, that needs to be worked through. but the other shing— be worked through. but the other ihing is.— be worked through. but the other ihing is. i— be worked through. but the other thing is, i think— be worked through. but the other thing is, i think basically ias— thing is, i think basically france and— thing is, i think basically france and germany are really assaiy— france and germany are really deeply opposed— france and germany are really deeply opposed to having a naiiish— deeply opposed to having a british leader— deeply opposed to having a british leader of nato of nato, hssauss— british leader of nato of nato, because because _ british leader of nato of nato, because because of brexit, um , because because of brexit, um, shans— because because of brexit, um, shans in— because because of brexit, um, shorts in germany— because because of brexit, um, shorts in germany was humiliate by shorts in germany was humiliate hy nsn— shorts in germany was humiliate hy nsn waiiass— shorts in germany was humiliate by ben wallace when early this ysas— by ben wallace when early this ysan ins— by ben wallace when early this year the germans— by ben wallace when early this year the germans were playing up aiiawing— year the germans were playing up aiiawing hanks— year the germans were playing up allowing tanks to— year the germans were playing up allowing tanks to go to ukraine. so allowing tanks to go to ukraine. sa shans— allowing tanks to go to ukraine. sa shans is.— allowing tanks to go to ukraine. so shorts is, is— allowing tanks to go to ukraine. so shorts is, is sort— allowing tanks to go to ukraine. so shorts is, is sort of in a san— so shorts is, is sort of in a saw as— so shorts is, is sort of in a sort over that. _ so shorts is, is sort of in a sort over that. and of course

ins— sort over that. and of course ihs nsnsh— sort over that. and of course the french want— sort over that. and of course the french want to see, even ihaugh— the french want to see, even ihaugh ins— the french want to see, even though the french have a very anahisnaiis— though the french have a very problematic relationship with unio— problematic relationship with who as— problematic relationship with nato over historically, they ihsy— nato over historically, they ihsy wani— nato over historically, they ihsy wani ia — nato over historically, they they want to make sure there's an in— they want to make sure there's an eu candidate— they want to make sure there's an eu candidate for the post. so it's an eu candidate for the post. so its a— an eu candidate for the post. so its a shy— an eu candidate for the post. so its a wsny hunky— an eu candidate for the post. so it's a very murky situation, isn-i— it's a very murky situation, isn-i iis — it's a very murky situation, isn't it? we've— it's a very murky situation, isn't it? 350 20. it's a very murky situation, isn't it? 20. 0“ isn't it? we've got to move on. i'm so sorry. we're a bit short on time. they're offline. there from the telegraph. but thank you so much. for more on the titan sub next to the point on gb news, britain's news .

hey, good morning. this is the point on gb news. what time is it? point on gb news. what time is in on.— point on gb news. what time is in on. is— point on gb news. what time is it? oh, it's 10:00— point on gb news. what time is it? oh, it's 10:00 already. - cit \ what time is it? oh, it's 10:00 already. that hissi— it? oh, it's 10:00 already. that hinsi nah— it? oh, it's 10:00 already. that first half an— it? oh, it's 10:00 already. that first half an hour— it? oh, it's 10:00 already. that first half an hour went quite guiskiy— first half an hour went quite guiskiy. sign-i— first half an hour went quite quickly, didn't it? it's me, bev iuinsi— quickly, didn't it? it's me, bev iuinsi ana— quickly, didn't it? it's me, bev turner and andrew pierce this manning. — turner and andrew pierce this manning. kais— turner and andrew pierce this morning. lots to— turner and andrew pierce this morning. lots to pack in the shaw— morning. lots to pack in the shaw. — morning. lots to pack in the shaw. iss— morning. lots to pack in the show. it's the— morning. lots to pack in the show. it's the big- morning. lots to pack in the show. . 52 2 morning. lots to pack in the show. . 2 2 show. it's the big race against time, of course, in the atlantic where they're trying to find hours to go. franklin before we think the oxygen is going to run out on the titan submersible, there's a great number of rescue ships converged on the scene. so we're praying for a successful outcome. it's a flotilla hasisaiiy— outcome. it's a flotilla hasisaiiy .— outcome. it's a flotilla basically . it- outcome. it's a flotilla basically. it is- 2 it's a flotilla basically. it is embarking upon inas— basically. it is embarking upon that particular— basically. it is embarking upon that particular area two hours iins. — that particular area two hours iins. on.— that particular area two hours time. oh, interest— that particular area two hours time. oh, interest rates . we're time. oh, interest rates. we're going— time. oh, interest rates. we're gaing ia— time. oh, interest rates. we're gaing ia hsan— time. oh, interest rates. we're going to hear from the bank of ingiani. — going to hear from the bank of ingiana. whai— going to hear from the bank of england. what rate they're going to england. what rate they're going ia nui— england. what rate they're going ia aui ii— england. what rate they're going ia aui ii un— england. what rate they're going ia aui ii up ha.— england. what rate they're going to put it up to. we— england. what rate they're going to put it up to. we just had iian— to put it up to. we just had liam halligan— to put it up to. we just had liam halligan in the studio. he ihinks— liam halligan in the studio. he ihinks ii— liam halligan in the studio. he thinks it could— liam halligan in the studio. he thinks it could be— liam halligan in the studio. he thinks it could be as as

thinks it could be as much as nah— thinks it could be as much as hah aw— thinks it could be as much as half a% hopefully no more than 0.25.— half a% hopefully no more than 0.25. sun— half a% hopefully no more than 0.25. our interest— half a% hopefully no more than 0.25. our interest rates, 13th consecutive _what- 0.25. our interest rates, 13th consecutive 0.25. our interest rates, 13th- consecutive _what are they consecutive rise. what are they doing in the bank of england? the bank of england governor, his of his nickname is the bank of england, of course , we're also england, of course, we're also going talk about the 70th going to talk about the 70th anniversary the windrush anniversary of the windrush generation. we're talking to a conservative whose family conservative mp whose own family were windrush were part of that windrush generation here to generation who came here to britain in 75 years. first of all, over here— britain in 75 years. first of all, over here is— britain in 75 years. first of all, over here is your- “ “ i“; «055 first of all, over here is your news this manning— all, over here is your news this nanning wish— all, over here is your news this morning with rhiannon jones. ihank— morning with rhiannon jones. ihankyau— morning with rhiannon jones. thank you, beth. -2 “2 thank you, beth. good morning. it thank you, beth. good morning. ii is— thank you, beth. good morning. ii is hash— thank you, beth. good morning. it is 10:01. your— thank you, beth. good morning. it is 10:01. your top— thank you, beth. -2 “2 it is 10:01. your top stories han— it is 10:01. your top stories nan ins— it is 10:01. your top stories nan ihs sn— it is 10:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the us saasiguani— from the gb newsroom. the us coastguard says— from the gb newsroom. the us coastguard says the search is using— coastguard says the search is being expanded— coastguard says the search is being expanded of the area where hays— being expanded of the area where noises have been— being expanded of the area where noises have been heard as time is running— noises have been heard as time is running aus— noises have been heard as time is running out for— noises have been heard as time is running out for the missing iaunsis— is running out for the missing tourists submersible. the titan . an aiisiah— tourists submersible. the titan , an aircraft and— tourists submersible. the titan , an aircraft and ten ships are ssaishing— , an aircraft and ten ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north kiianiis— searching 10,000mi2 of the north kiianiis .— searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while— searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while two— searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while two remote atlantic, while two remote sanwaiisa— atlantic, while two remote controlled submersibles use isanaia— controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor— controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor under the sunass— sonar to monitor under the surface . this— sonar to monitor under the surface . this latter land surface. this latter land sanying— surface. this latter land carrying state - surface. this latter land carrying state of the art rov has— carrying state of the art rov has aniwsi—

carrying state of the art rov has arrived in— carrying state of the art rov has arrived in the area. kssaniing— has arrived in the area. according to- has arrived in the area. according to website marine inahissan — according to website marine traffic.com british deep water saiwags— traffic.com british deep water salvage company magellan is en iauis— salvage company magellan is en nauis ia— salvage company magellan is en nauis ia aii— salvage company magellan is en route to aid in— salvage company magellan is en route to aid in the— salvage company magellan is en route to aid in the rescue . five route to aid in the rescue. five asanis— route to aid in the rescue. five asaais as— route to aid in the rescue. five people are inside— route to aid in the rescue. five people are inside the craft that iasi— people are inside the craft that iasi saniasi— people are inside the craft that lost contact with— people are inside the craft that lost contact with the surface on sunaay. — lost contact with the surface on sunday. retired— lost contact with the surface on sunday. retired commander from kayak— sunday. retired commander from royal australian— sunday. retired commander from royal australian navy frank owen says— royal australian navy frank owen says i— royal australian navy frank owen says i win— royal australian navy frank owen says i wiii is— royal australian navy frank owen says it will be difficult to fini— says it will be difficult to find ins— says it will be difficult to find the submersible . find the submersible. the only which— find the submersible. the only wshisis anaa— find the submersible. the only vehicle that can probably bring it to the surface is the us navy's deep salvage remotely operated vehicle that should be on scene on the site by now. but it needs to know where it's to go to. it's not really a search asset. it's a recovery asset. so so and then it will take time , so and then it will take time, perhaps two hours to get down to 400 zero metres. the bank of england is set to increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive time later as it tries to tackle ongoing price rises. the latest figures auhiishsi— ” the latest figures published yesterday showed inniaiian— published yesterday showed inflation was— published yesterday showed inflation was stuck at 8.7% in way. — inflation was stuck at 8.7% in way. ins— inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest— inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest rate currently at may. the interest rate currently ai ha— may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains—

may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains the bank's primary— at 4.5, remains the bank's annany iaai— at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to- at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to lower inflation. ins— primary tool to lower inflation. ihs iansign— primary tool to lower inflation. the foreign secretary, james cr...n,,_ the foreign secretary, james siswsny. says— the foreign secretary, james cleverly, says the government is aaing— cleverly, says the government is iaing aii— cleverly, says the government is iaing ah i— cleverly, says the government is doing all it can— cleverly, says the government is doing all it can to— cleverly, says the government is doing all it can to halve inflation. _ doing all it can to halve inflation. the- doing all it can to halve inflation. 37�*” doing all it can to halve- inflation. the prime minister is committed to bringing those interest rates down, halve those interest rates down, halve those interest rates. this year to grow the economy , to reduce debt grow the economy, to reduce debt . this is absolutely the economic focus of the government and we will be taking action to drive those things forward. and i think it's it is the duty of government. we are relentlessly focussed on that. well, amid rising inflation, labour's called on banks to provide support to homeowners facing mortgage payment difficulties. the party claims their five gaini— the party claims their five aaini gian— the party claims their five point plan would allow borrowers to point plan would allow borrowers ia swiish— point plan would allow borrowers ia swiish ia— point plan would allow borrowers to switch to interest only aaynsnis— to switch to interest only aaynsnis an— to switch to interest only payments or extend their nangags— payments or extend their mortgage terms . the government mortgage terms. the government says— mortgage terms. the government says isnasns— mortgage terms. the government says lenders are— mortgage terms. the government says lenders are already nsguiisa— says lenders are already required to— says lenders are already required to engage with struggling— required to engage with struggling customers. shadow iinansiai— struggling customers. shadow financial secretary james murray saia— financial secretary james murray said an— financial secretary james murray said an wsws— financial secretary james murray told gb news labour's plan shauia— told gb news labour's plan shauii is— told gb news labour's plan should be taken— told gb news labour's plan should be taken into account . should be taken into account. sawsinnsns— should be taken into account. government should— should be taken into account. government should follow- should be taken into account. government should follow our five point plan that we set out today , which would require

today, which would require lenders to allow borrowers to switch to interest only mortgages for a temporary time penod mortgages for a temporary time period or extend the length of their mortgage term. and it would also require lenders to wait a minimum of six months before initiating any repossession proceedings . you repossession proceedings. you know, that's the kind of targeted help that we need . targeted help that we need. defence secretary ben wallace has— defence secretary ben wallace has nuisa— defence secretary ben wallace has ruled himself— defence secretary ben wallace has ruled himself out of the ia— has ruled himself out of the race to become— has ruled himself out of the race to become the next nato shisn— race to become the next nato shisn whsn— race to become the next nato chief when asked— race to become the next nato chief when asked about leading the chief when asked about leading ihs aiiianss— chief when asked about leading the alliance ,_ chief when asked about leading the alliance , he— chief when asked about leading the alliance , he told the the alliance, he told the isananisi— the alliance, he told the economist he _ the alliance, he told the economist he was withdrawing hssauss— economist he was withdrawing hssauss an— economist he was withdrawing because of unresolved issues wishin— because of unresolved issues wiihin ihs— because of unresolved issues within the organisation. he also siaisa— within the organisation. he also siaisa ihs— within the organisation. he also siaisa ihs us— within the organisation. he also stated the us wants the current secretary—general, jens stoltenberg, _ secretary—general, jens stoltenberg, to continue in the naks.— stoltenberg, to continue in the naks. ns— stoltenberg, to continue in the naks. us is— stoltenberg, to continue in the role. he is due— stoltenberg, to continue in the role. he is due to— stoltenberg, to continue in the role. he is due to step down in ssnisnhsn— role. he is due to step down in ssaisnhsn .— role. he is due to step down in september . king— role. he is due to step down in september. king charles role. he is due to step down in september . king charles says the september. king charles says the winanush— september. king charles says the windrush generation has made a signifisani— windrush generation has made a significant difference to the u. — significant difference to the uk. praising— significant difference to the uk, praising its— significant difference to the uk, praising its legacy as ananauni— uk, praising its legacy as profound and— uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent. uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent . 75 years profound and permanent. 75 years answ— profound and permanent. 75 years ahsi ihs— profound and permanent. 75 years after the first— profound and permanent. 75 years after the first crossing from ihs— after the first crossing from the caribbean,— after the first crossing from the caribbean, the king will be anang— the caribbean, the king will be anang ihass— the caribbean, the king will be among those at— the caribbean, the king will be among those at a— the caribbean, the king will be among those at a service held at winisai— among those at a service held at

windsor castle,— among those at a service held at windsor castle, later marking the anniversary.— windsor castle, later marking the anniversary. a £1 million funi— the anniversary. a £1 million fund raising— the anniversary. a £1 million fund raising efforts are also unisnway— fund raising efforts are also unisnway ia— fund raising efforts are also underway to recover the anchor han— underway to recover the anchor nan ihs— underway to recover the anchor nan ihs shin— underway to recover the anchor from the ship that— underway to recover the anchor from the ship that made the snassing— from the ship that made the snassing ani— from the ship that made the crossing and put— from the ship that made the crossing and put it on display. kni— crossing and put it on display. kiii empire— crossing and put it on display. rmt empire windrush sank off the saasi— rmt empire windrush sank off the saasi ah— rmt empire windrush sank off the coast of algeria— rmt empire windrush sank off the coast of algeria in— rmt empire windrush sank off the coast of algeria in 1954. the ssash— coast of algeria in 1954. the ssash hai— coast of algeria in 1954. the ssash fan a— coast of algeria in 1954. the search for a firefighter who wsni— search for a firefighter who went missing— search for a firefighter who went missing while attempting a shaky— went missing while attempting a shaky swi— went missing while attempting a charity swim across the english shannsi— charity swim across the english shannsi has— charity swim across the english channel has been— charity swim across the english channel has been called off. ian nughss— channel has been called off. ian nughss was— channel has been called off. ian hughes was raising money for shaniiss— hughes was raising money for charities, including the british nsan— charities, including the british heart foundation and midlands air ambulance. _ heart foundation and midlands air ambulance. the 42 year old hsing— air ambulance. the 42 year old was being accompanied by a supran— was being accompanied by a suaaan haai— was being accompanied by a support boat but went missing in nsnsh— support boat but went missing in nsnsh asis— support boat but went missing in french waters on— support boat but went missing in french waters on tuesday . french waters on tuesday. sansnisnss— french waters on tuesday. convenience stores are urging the convenience stores are urging ihs aaiiss— convenience stores are urging ihs aaiiss ia— convenience stores are urging the police to create a most wanisi— the police to create a most wanisi kiss— the police to create a most wanted list of— the police to create a most wanted list of thieves as shaaiining— wanted list of thieves as shoplifting incidents reach assassi— shoplifting incidents reach record levels,— shoplifting incidents reach record levels, according to the assasiaiian— record levels, according to the association of— record levels, according to the association of convenience ssass— association of convenience siaiss shans— association of convenience stores, more than a million snsns— stores, more than a million ihsfis sws— stores, more than a million thefts were reported last year. high— thefts were reported last year. high waius— thefts were reported last year. high value items— thefts were reported last year. high value items like meat, aisahai— high value items like meat, alcohol and— high value items like meat, alcohol and confectionery are nsgusniiy— alcohol and confectionery are frequently stolen , acas says, frequently stolen, acas says, ansn— frequently stolen, acas says, ahsn hy— frequently stolen, acas says,

often by individuals with addictions— often by individuals with addictions or— often by individuals with addictions or connected to anganissa— addictions or connected to organised crime . and king organised crime. and king shaiiss— organised crime. and king charles and— organised crime. and king charles and queen camilla's harass— charles and queen camilla's hanss ah— charles and queen camilla's hopes of victory— charles and queen camilla's hopes of victory at royal ascot iashsi— hopes of victory at royal ascot were dashed on— hopes of victory at royal ascot were dashed on the second day as two were dashed on the second day as iwa ah— were dashed on the second day as iwa an insin— were dashed on the second day as two of their horses— were dashed on the second day as two of their horses missed out on two of their horses missed out an inanhiss— two of their horses missed out on trophies. the— two of their horses missed out on trophies. the royal couple snisisa— on trophies. the royal couple entered their— on trophies. the royal couple entered their thoroughbred reach for entered their thoroughbred reach haiihs— entered their thoroughbred reach fan ihs naan— entered their thoroughbred reach for the moon in— entered their thoroughbred reach for the moon in the royal hunt cup,— for the moon in the royal hunt sun. insin— for the moon in the royal hunt cup, their other— for the moon in the royal hunt cup, their other horse circle of fire:— cup, their other horse circle of his aisa— cup, their other horse circle of fire, also took— cup, their other horse circle of fire, also took part, but was hsaisn— fire, also took part, but was hsaisn hy— fire, also took part, but was beaten by jockey— fire, also took part, but was beaten by jockey frankie dettori . rising— beaten by jockey frankie dettori . using a— beaten by jockey frankie dettori , riding a horse— beaten by jockey frankie dettori , riding a horse named gregory . , riding a horse named gregory. ihis— , riding a horse named gregory. ihis is— , riding a horse named gregory. ihis is en— , riding a horse named gregory. this is gb news.— , riding a horse named gregory. this is gb news. we're bringing you this is gb news. we're bringing yau shans— this is gb news. we're bringing yau as i— this is gb news. we're bringing you more as it happens. now, ihaugh— you more as it happens. now, ihaugh ii-s— you more as it happens. now, though, it's back— you more as it happens. now, though, it's back over to bev ani— though, it's back over to bev ana .— and. andrew saaa- and. andrew good morning. it's and. andrew— good morning. it's 1007. ana- knaisw— good morning. it's1007. thank you— good morning. it's1007. thank you isn— good morning. it's1007. thank you for joining good morning. it's1007. thank you forjoining us. time is running out in the race to rescue the five men trapped on board the titan submersible. well, as an estimates that the oxygen supply could run out any moment. speaking last night, saasiguani— moment. speaking last night, coastguard captain— speaking last night, coastguard captain jamie insisnsk— coastguard captain jamie frederick said— coastguard captain jamie frederick said he had hoped ihass— frederick said he had hoped ihass an— frederick said he had hoped those on board— frederick said he had hoped

those on board could still be sausa— those on board could still be sawsi . — those on board could still be saved . when— those on board could still be saved . �*fki“0“ ”0 those on board could still be saved. �*fki“0“ ”0 “ those on board could still be saved . �*fki“0“ ”0 “ those on board could still be- saved . when you're in the middle saved. when you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope. that's why we're doing what we do . with we're doing what we do. with respect noises, respect to the noises, specifically , we don't know what specifically, we don't know what they are, to be frank with, you , the p3 detected noises . that's , the p3 detected noises. that's why they're up there. that's why they're doing what they're doing . that's why they put sonar buoys water. the good buoys in the water. the good news is, what i can tell you is we're searching in the area where the noises were detected , where the noises were detected, and continue to so. and we'll continue to do so. this a this is a search and this is a this is a search and rescue mission 100. we smack rescue mission 100. we are smack dab middle of search and dab in the middle of search and rescue. at we'll rescue. and at and we'll continue to every available continue to put every available asset we have an effort asset that we have in an effort to the titan and the crew to find the titan and the crew members. the search is members. so the search is currently focussed on a point in the north atlantic where the sound was detected sound of banging was detected with vessel carrying with a french vessel carrying a state the art underwater state of the art underwater robot its way to the area. robot on its way to the area. and of course, we don't know if has— and of course, we don't know if ihass ihs— and of course, we don't know if those the bang— and of course, we don't know if those the bang is— and of course, we don't know if those the bang is still continuing.- those the bang is still continuing. paul hawkins, our naiianai— continuing. paul hawkins, our national-joins- continuing. paul hawkins, our national-joininni national reporter, joins us in siuiia. — national reporter, joins us in siuiia. .gai— national reporter, joins us in studio. got interesting studio. paul got an interesting snai— studio. paul got an interesting snaii nsss— studio. paul got an interesting email here from _ studio. paul got an interesting email here from andy in the ssaiiish— email here from andy in the

scottish borders.— email here from andy in the scottish borders. he said, i naiissa— scottish borders. he said, i noticed when _ scottish borders. he said, i noticed when paul andrew noticed when paul and andrew iaiksi— noticed when paul and andrew iaiksi-ihis— noticed when paul and andrew talked-this area- noticed when paul and andrew talked this area of sea talked about this area of sea asiiwiiy— talked about this area of sea asiiwiiy using— talked about this area of sea activity being unregulated, this isn-i— activity being unregulated, this isn-i-wus. — activity being unregulated, this isn't-true. the— activity being unregulated, this isn't true. the vehicle isn't quite true. the vehicle whish— isn't quite true. the vehicle which plumbed— isn't quite true. the vehicle which plumbed to deeper depths in—iianana- which plumbed to deeper depths in_mariana trench,l in milana, the mariana trench, ii— in milana, the mariana trench, ii huiii— in milana, the mariana trench, was it built to— in milana, the mariana trench, was it built to classify ocean sianianis— was it built to classify ocean standards and— was it built to classify ocean standards and certification? the fact standards and certification? the as is— standards and certification? the as is ihs— standards and certification? the fact is the company chose not to has— fact is the company chose not to has ihs— fact is the company chose not to have the titan— fact is the company chose not to have the titan built to class as ihsy— have the titan built to class as ihsy hsiiswsi— have the titan built to class as they believed it— have the titan built to class as they believed it hampered innovation— they believed it hampered innovation and— they believed it hampered innovation and as a former seafarer involved heavily with various classification societies . i various classification societies . i haw— various classification societies . i now see more— various classification societies . i now see more than ever the waius— . i now see more than ever the waius ana— . i now see more than ever the value and reassurance they can prawns.— value and reassurance they can anawiis. was— value and reassurance they can provide. was that— value and reassurance they can provide. was that a submarine or a—ihai— provide. was that a submarine or a—ihai sank- provide. was that a submarine or a—ihai sank ia- provide. was that a submarine or a_that sank to the. a submersible that sank to the banan— a submersible that sank to the haiian an— a submersible that sank to the bottom of the— a submersible that sank to the bottom of the mariana trench? gm.— bottom of the mariana trench? has in— bottom of the mariana trench? has in has— bottom of the mariana trench? um, i'm not sure— bottom of the mariana trench? um, i'm not sure there- bottom of the mariana trench? um, i'm not sure there is- bottom of the mariana trench? um, i'm not sure there is a bit of a there is a bit. i was reading this morning actually, the manned underwater vehicle. and if they're a seafarer, i'm sure more it sure they know more about it than me, the way. but man than me, by the way. but the man on vehicles committee on walter vehicles committee of the society , the marine technology society, they wrote to the oceangate chief executive stockton rush , chief executive stockton rush, who's on the titan in 2018, and specifically expressed concern over the company's compliance with a maritime risk assessment . certification. will all. conan

from the marine technology society said there are ten submarines in the world that can go 12,000ft and deeper. all of them are certified except the ocean gate submersible. note he said there are ten submarines well, not a submersible, which is , of course, the difference is, of course, the difference being that a submersible has kind of little thrusters. but really it needs to be deployed and it sinks effectively . it and it sinks effectively. it kind of goes to the bottom. it can't move about and by its own propulsion. so maybe that's how they got around it. and it's. what's the latest from the rescue _ seen i what's the latest from the rescue _ seen a l what's the latest from the - rescue—seen a number rescue site? we've seen a number of rescue site? we've seen a number an shins— rescue site? we've seen a number an shins .— rescue site? we've seen a number an shias . shins— rescue site? we've seen a number of ships , ships converging of ships, ships converging on ihs— of ships, ships converging on ihs ssss— of ships, ships converging on ihs . — of ships, ships converging on the scene . paul— of ships, ships converging on the scene . i405“ “ the scene. paul yeah, we've been monitoring the marine traffic dot. we've been watching some of the ships as they're making their way to the to the site of their way to the to the site of the wreckage of the titanic . the the wreckage of the titanic. the most interesting ship is the l'atalante. that's the french scientific vessel vessel excuse me , that's carrying the state of me, that's carrying the state of the art rov remote operated vehicle . victor, 6000. state of

vehicle. victor, 6000. state of the art cameras, sensors, robots , arms their , hoping that once, , arms their, hoping that once, onceit , arms their, hoping that once, once it gets down there and it can reach the bottom, it can, first of all, locate along with the other rovs where it is, but also it can use its robotic arms to either free it from the wreckage or attach a hook from a us naval wreckage ship that's making its way to the site and then hook it and bring it back to the surface, which, as you've pointed out before, could pointed out before, that could take couple of hours and, you take a couple of hours and, you know, and houses we've got know, and houses all we've got left is we've got. left and ours is all we've got. paul left and ours is all we've got. paul, thank you for that. we'll siay— paul, thank you for that. we'll siay an— paul, thank you for that. we'll siay an inn— paul, thank you for that. we'll stay on this subject now because raining— stay on this subject now because raining-is— stay on this subject now because joining-is former— stay on this subject now because joining is former royal navy joining us is former royal navy ahissn— officer, rear admiral chris nanny. — officer, rear admiral chris nany. chais— officer, rear admiral chris parry. chris, good to parry. chris, good morning to yau. — parry. chris, good morning to yau. nsy.— parry. chris, good morning to you. hey,-morning,. you. hey, good morning, everybody. time is you. hey, good morning, everybody . time is the essence, everybody. time is the essence, isn-i— everybody. time is the essence, isn-i ii— everybody. time is the essence, isn-i iis — everybody. time is the essence, isn-i is in— everybody. time is the essence, isn't it ? i'm afraid— everybody. time is the essence, isn't it ? i'm afraid time's up. isn't it? i'm afraid time's up. i don't think there's any prospect of getting these people back alive now, what makes you say that , chris? what makes you say that, chris? what makes you ihink— say that, chris? what makes you ihink inas— say that, chris? what makes you ihink ihai yau— say that, chris? what makes you think that you could— say that, chris? what makes you think that you could be- , what makes you think that you could be so assaiuis— think that you could be so resolute about— think that you could be so resolute about that at this siags—

resolute about that at this siags s — resolute about that at this stage ? well,— resolute about that at this stage ? �*fw�*i0;-- 2 resolute about that at this— stage ? well, because the maximum stage? well, because the maximum time was 96 hours. they disappeared 92 hours ago. they haven't found titan yet. and it's going to take more than four hours to get them up to the surface. so i think we have to be realistic and say at the moment, obviously we'll allow some time for , you know, extra some time for, you know, extra margin, perhaps a day. but i think we need to, i'm afraid, look at the worst here, chris, do you do you think that the fact we know some of the families are on on the mother ship , the wives, are they being ship, the wives, are they being would they have been prepared for this? i don't think anyhaay-s— 57 i don't think anybody's prepared for a for this? i don't think- anybody's prepared for a tragedy like anybody's prepared for a tragedy iiks ihis. — anybody's prepared for a tragedy iiks his. is— anybody's prepared for a tragedy like this. it comes— anybody's prepared for a tragedy like this. it comes at- anybody's prepared for a tragedy like this. . 2 like this. it comes at you with a shock. you think it's a routine activity? it isn't of course. i'm sure the risks are probably weren't explained at all to the people concerned. and as we know, the company itself was very irresponsible in the way it actually, i'm afraid, put out this business. and also put

their technology in the water. i think they're going to be heavy recriminations in relation to whether the vehicle itself was actually seaworthy and whether it should have been down at that depth. i think you've catalogued already the history behind it. this was a fundamentally unsafe operation and an accident was bound to happen at some stage. it's so interesting hearing you snsak— it's so interesting hearing you sasak. chais— it's so interesting hearing you speak, chris, because you sound insisiihiy— speak, chris, because you sound incredibly frustrated . i can incredibly frustrated. i can sense a frustration in your iss— sense a frustration in your inas— sense a frustration in your voice that as— sense a frustration in your voice that as somebody that understands— voice that as somebody that understands the— voice that as somebody that understands the magnitude of the ocean and that— understands the magnitude of the ocean and that it's— understands the magnitude of the ocean and that it's something inas— ocean and that it's something ihai yau— ocean and that it's something that you underestimate at your asni— that you underestimate at your asni ihai-s— that you underestimate at your peril that's effectively what yaus— peril that's effectively what yaus saying— peril that's effectively what you're saying here. i405“ peril that's effectively what you're saying here. 4 �*" you're saying here. yeah. if you-s— you're saying here. yeah. if you're going to go down four kilometres into the ocean , we're kilometres into the ocean, we're talking about quite a long way. everything has to go right every time. yeah. and i'm afraid the odds were stacked against this expedition right from the start. if you look at the flimsy nature of the technology dodi the very

dodgy certification that has occurred up until now, and i would say the bravado of the people promoting it, there's something seriously wrong. i'm also concerned about the fact it took eight hours to actually raise the alarm after they lost contact with this vehicle. so that suggests to me things have gone wrong in the past and they've gone, oh, you know what? they normally about eight they normally take about eight hours back to the hours to come back to the surface. just wait. well surface. we'll just wait. well on this occasion they didn't. and i think oceangate has got a lot to answer well, we know lot to answer for. well, we know because, chris, we do know that there have been communications issues with the titan before contact was lost. and perhaps ihai-s— contact was lost. and perhaps ihai-s again— contact was lost. and perhaps that's again, you're— 22 and perhaps that's again, you're you're iighi. — that's again, you're you're right. perhaps— that's again, you're you're right. perhaps that's why they sign-i— right. perhaps that's why they iiin-i aiss— right. perhaps that's why they didn't raise raise— right. perhaps that's why they didn't raise raise the alarm for sign— didn't raise raise the alarm for sighi naus— didn't raise raise the alarm for eight hours because they ihaughh— eight hours because they ihaughi. ah— eight hours because they thought, oh, this has happened hsfais. — thought, oh, this has happened before. yeah,— thought, oh, this has happened before. 4 0;;a

to try and locate it and recover it. i just think it was irresponsible to actually put this vehicle down. it's had a history, very dodgy history of certification , and i think some certification, and i think some questions need to be answered. i mean, the key issue here is this is a totally unregulated area . is a totally unregulated area. if you look to see who should be actually applying standards and all the safety issues here, it's not like that. this is the equivalent of building a kit car and saying to somebody , look, and saying to somebody, look, come for a drive. and i think, you know, as i said, somebody needs to look at this very seriously afterwards. i think the legal implications will be horrendous . but the legal implications will be horrendous. but right the legal implications will be horrendous . but right now, horrendous. but right now, obviously, we allow some time to see if people can survive . but see if people can survive. but given the fact we haven't located it yet, you know, it's going to take hours to actually get the essentially the american system. it's called a curve 21 down to it. they've got a great

record of recovering aircraft from 20,000ft. they've recovered a helicopter and a fixed wing aircraft in the last four years. and that attaches basically to a very sophisticated american deep salvage piece of kit , which salvage piece of kit, which basically crane winch and a wire . but that's going to take hours. i mean, we're talking ten hours. i mean, we're talking ten hours. so i'm afraid to say sorry, sorry , chris. if so, if sorry, sorry, chris. if so, if they sorry, sorry, chris. if so, if ihsy sauii— sorry, sorry, chris. if so, if they could have- sorry, sorry, chris. if so, if they could have got- if so, if they could have got that sguiansni— they could have got that equipment to— they could have got that equipment to the vessel two days ago,— equipment to the vessel two days aga. snsn— equipment to the vessel two days aga. ihsn ihsy— equipment to the vessel two days ago, then they would have had a gaai— ago, then they would have had a gaaa shanss— ago, then they would have had a gaaa shanss . — ago, then they would have had a good chance . well,— ago, then they would have had a good chance. �*fw�*i0;-- ago, then they would have had a good chance . �*fw�*i0;-- 20. good chance. well, you've got to find it first. and i think people have underestimated the challenge of finding this. it's only 20ft long. you're in a huge debns only 20ft long. you're in a huge debris field from titanic herself. and you're in a series of canyons and hills . and the of canyons and hills. and the nature of the bottom is very complex indeed . um, you know, complex indeed. um, you know, this this whole banging saga has been really spurious as well . been really spurious as well. the thought that you would actually bang from the inside of actually bang from the inside of

a carbon fibre hull is ridiculous. frankly and people like myself have been trained in the past to differentiate between that sort of noise and the other mechanical noises that you get in the background . and you get in the background. and it's giving people false hope. i understand why because they wanted maintain morale, i wanted to maintain morale, but i think was a distraction, think it was a distraction, to tell truth. and tell you the truth. and i haven't seen any evidence of any survival since contact was lost on sunday. just finally, chris, i on sunday. just finally, chris, i sa— on sunday. just finally, chris, i in— on sunday. just finally, chris, i in a— 0“ “25 just finally, chris, i mean, i'm a layman. you're yaus— i mean, i'm a layman. you're yaus ihs— i mean, i'm a layman. you're you're the expert— i mean, i'm a layman. you're you're the expert here, but i siiii— you're the expert here, but i siiii fini— you're the expert here, but i still find it— you're the expert here, but i still find it amazing that this why— still find it amazing that this iiny kinks— still find it amazing that this tiny little submersible, 22ft, was allowed _ tiny little submersible, 22ft, was allowed to— tiny little submersible, 22ft, was allowed to go to the bottom ani— was allowed to go to the bottom and inas— was allowed to go to the bottom and that there— was allowed to go to the bottom and that there was— was allowed to go to the bottom and that there was no attached ansni— and that there was no attached ansni ia— and that there was no attached moment to the— and that there was no attached moment to the mothership. could it moment to the mothership. could ii nai— moment to the mothership. could ii nai hays— moment to the mothership. could it not have been— moment to the mothership. could it not have been could there not has— it not have been could there not has hssn— it not have been could there not has hssn a— it not have been could there not have been a cable— it not have been could there not have been a cable link in it? so ihsy— have been a cable link in it? so ihsy hai— have been a cable link in it? so they had contact— have been a cable link in it? so they had contact with it the whais— they had contact with it the whais-ws— they had contact with it the whole we asked asked whole time? we asked i asked ahaui— whole time? we asked i asked ahaui inas— whole time? we asked i asked about that earlier. in an saiiisi— about that earlier. in an earlier program. i was told too epehiv-se— earlier program. i was told too. expensive. _these expensive. well, hang on. these asanis— expensive. well, hang on. these asaais as— expensive. well, hang on. these people are billionaires. but aisa— people are billionaires. but aisa-sauii- people are billionaires. but also-could havei people are billionaires. but. also-could have got also the cable could have got ihs— also the cable could have got the currents,— also the cable could have got the currents, could have made hssn— the currents, could have made been problematic— the currents, could have made been problematic for the cable . been problematic for the cable. but been problematic for the cable. nui suisiy— been problematic for the cable. nui suisiy ii— been problematic for the cable. but surely it would have been if anasiisai— but surely it would have been if practicala a— but surely it would have been if practical, a safer— but surely it would have been if practical, a safer option . practical, a safer option. waki— practical, a safer option. wsii. ins— practical, a safer option.

wsii. its a— practical, a safer option. well, it's a good- practical, a safer option. well, it's a good point, isn't it, because the remote operating vehicles that have been lowered from the rescue ships have actually got cables on them. exactly. so it answers your question. yes, it could mean more simply than that . you could more simply than that. you could have trailed a wire with a buoy . it was on the surface. yeah so, you know, you can have four miles of very, very thin wire submarines use it all the time. and you could have had a buoy on the surface . there's all sorts the surface. there's all sorts of you could have done. of things you could have done. the important it the most important thing is it could had sort of sort of could have had a sort of sort of thing that aircraft had, which is a black box pinger which allows to locate the black allows you to locate the black box. cheap. it's available. box. it's cheap. it's available. it box. it's cheap. it's available. h gonein box. it's cheap. it's available. it gone in the it could have gone in the submerged submersible, but i'm afraid say look at the afraid to say if you look at the company's website, they say, look, we're a bit look, you know, we're a bit impatient with dealing with regulators people ask regulators and people who ask questions. we find it gets in the innovation . well, the way of innovation. well, you've got that sort of attitude. safety is not going to be the top of your concerns . be at the top of your concerns. and i said, i'm pretty and as i said, i'm pretty indignant about the way these people exposed to these people were exposed to these sorts of risks. yeah i mean,

let's ask all four of us. would we have gone in there? no, not in a million years. no and no. and if in a million years. no and no. and n i— in a million years. no and no. and n i ani— in a million years. no and no. and if i and if— in a million years. no and no. and if i and if i— in a million years. no and no. and if i and if i was- in a million years. no and no. and if i and if i was a- “ -- n0 and no. and if i and if i was a parent, i and if i and if i was a parent, iwauii— and if i and if i was a parent, iwauii nai— and if i and if i was a parent, i would not have— and if i and if i was a parent, i would not have allowed my 19 ysas— i would not have allowed my 19 ysan aii— i would not have allowed my 19 ysai ais san— i would not have allowed my 19 year old son to— i would not have allowed my 19 year old son to go— i would not have allowed my 19 year old son to go in there siihsn— year old son to go in there either. chris _ year old son to go in there either. chris all- year old son to go in there either. chris ”2“. either. chris all right. thanks so much. i'm afraid i'm either. chris ”2“. 2“ i'm afraid i'm afraid so much. i'm afraid i'm afraid to so much. i'm afraid i'm afraid ia say— so much. i'm afraid i'm afraid ia say ihs— so much. i'm afraid i'm afraid to say the risks— so much. i'm afraid i'm afraid to say the risks just- 2“ i'm afraid i'm afraid to say the risks just weren't saiiiwaisi— to say the risks just weren't calibrated by— to say the risks just weren't calibrated by people. you and i do calibrated by people. you and i ah ii— calibrated by people. you and i ah i swsny— calibrated by people. you and i ah ii swsny say— calibrated by people. you and i do it every day of— calibrated by people. you and i do it every day of the week. but i do it every day of the week. but i sa— do it every day of the week. but i rush— do it every day of the week. but i iusi a— do it every day of the week. but i mean, just a simple thing. two sinnis— i mean, just a simple thing. two sinais kings.— i mean, just a simple thing. two simple things. you're being haiisi— simple things. you're being haiisi-ii— simple things. you're being bolted-it with- simple things. you're being bolted it with 17 bolts. bolted into it with 17 bolts. vau— bolted into it with 17 bolts. kau-aui. - bolted into it with 17 bolts. you-out. that's. bolted into it with 17 bolts. you-out. that's the you can't get out. that's the insi— you can't get out. that's the niisi-wauia- you can't get out. that's the first-would have. first thing that would have me nsssy— first thing that would have me assay-kna— first thing that would have me pretty and secondly, pretty windy. and secondly, i'm hsing— pretty windy. and secondly, i'm hsing asksa— pretty windy. and secondly, i'm being asked to— pretty windy. and secondly, i'm being asked to sign a chit that says— being asked to sign a chit that says inas— being asked to sign a chit that says that they're _ being asked to sign a chit that says that they're going to says that they're not going to be says that they're not going to ias—nai— says that they're not going to ias—nan iniuny. be responsible for injury, emotional— be responsible for injury, emotional-or- be responsible for injury, emotional or death. be responsible for injury,- emotional-or death. yeah emotional trauma or death. yeah i emotional trauma or death. yeah i sa— emotional trauma or death. yeah i inas— emotional trauma or death. yeah i mean, that should scream red flag— i mean, that should scream red flag ai— i mean, that should scream red flag ai yau— i mean, that should scream red flag at you. yeah— i mean, that should scream red flag at you. yeah _ i mean, that should scream red flag at you. yeah thank you so much flag at you. yeah thank you so mush . ksah— flag at you. yeah thank you so much . yeah, we're— flag at you. yeah thank you so much . yeah, we're all- much. yeah, we're all sympathetic,- 2“ yeah, we're all sympathetic, you know, it's a haisnui— sympathetic, you know, it's a hateful situation _ sympathetic, you know, it's a hateful situation . i've been in hateful situation. i've been in iaaas— hateful situation. i've been in iaais ah— hateful situation. i've been in loads of search— hateful situation. i've been in loads of search and rescue siiuaiians— loads of search and rescue situations and— loads of search and rescue situations and you hope against nags.— situations and you hope against hans. vau— situations and you hope against haas. kau sa— situations and you hope against hope. you can. you— situations and you hope against hope. you can. you can actually asaais. — hope. you can. you can actually asaais. nui— hope. you can. you can actually save people. but i— hope. you can. you can actually save people. but i have to say, ihs— save people. but i have to say, ihs aias— save people. but i have to say, ihs aias as— save people. but i have to say, the odds are vanishingly small. i'm the odds are vanishingly small. in an— the odds are vanishingly small. i'm an optimist— the odds are vanishingly small. i'm an optimist by nature , but i i'm an optimist by nature, but i warn— i'm an optimist by nature, but i way a— i'm an optimist by nature, but i way a ias.— i'm an optimist by nature, but i way a an kni— i'm an optimist by nature, but i worry a lot. and this is very

wanying— worry a lot. and this is very worrying. yeah. _ worry a lot. and this is very worrying. yeah. thank you so much. former royal navy officer rear admiral chris parry there . rear admiral chris parry there. very frank. and it reminds me so much , bringing it all flooding much, bringing it all flooding back you know, because back to me. you know, because like i've mentioned a couple of times, used to, times, my ex—husband used to, when up profession, when he gave up his profession, sport, he an sport, and he became an adventurer. right. so he rowed the with mate, the atlantic with his mate, ben fogle, in little boat. fogle, in a tiny little boat. they across the antarctic. they went across the antarctic. he loads of stuff like that. he did loads of stuff like that. and i was always in on those meetings. and there was a sort of insouciance. it'll of an insouciance. it'll be fine, it'll fine. all these fine, it'll be fine. all these blokes fine, it'll be fine. all these hiakss aii— fine, it'll be fine. all these blokes all want— fine, it'll be fine. all these blokes all want to- fine, it'll be fine. all these blokes all want to do- �*" . -- �*" all these blokes all want to do this stuff ani— blokes all want to do this stuff anilwauii— blokes all want to do this stuff anilwauii is— blokes all want to do this stuff andeould be the— blokes all want to do this stuff and would be the only voice of and i would be the only voice of reason-room saying,- and i would be the only voice of reason room saying, well, reason in the room saying, well, hang—whai- reason in the room saying, well, hang—whai n- reason in the room saying, well, hang—what if this. hang on a minute, what if this happens? — hang on a minute, what if this haaasnss what— hang on a minute, what if this happens? what if— hang on a minute, what if this happens? �*" 57 hang on a minute, what if this happens? 7 57 ' “2 hang on a minute, what if this happens? 7 57 “2 happens? what if this? and when he actually did, when worst he actually did, when the worst did got walloped did happen and he got walloped by a truck, i'd only agreed to him doing that trip because they said have safety vehicles said he'd have safety vehicles in him at all in front and behind him at all times the road with lights times on the road with lights flashing. he'd be safe. and flashing. and he'd be safe. and when got they were all when he got hit, they were all in and it was. and so i can in bed. and it was. and so i can i sort of sympathise with i can sort of sympathise with the the background of the women in the background of this said, this story who might have said, are sure? are you sure, are

are you sure? are you sure, are you sure? all these blokes you sure? and all these blokes with their very deep pockets are going, it's fine, we're going, yeah, it's fine, we're going, yeah, it's fine, we're going but but some going to be fine. but but some very practical points. why hasn't it got a black- why hasn't it got a black box? yeah onwiaus.— hasn't it got a black box? yeah onwiaus. vau— hasn't it got a black box? yeah obvious. you-in- hasn't it got a black box? yeah obvious. you _in no - hasn't it got a black box? yeah obvious. you in no time obvious. you find it in no time at obvious. you find it in no time ai aii. — obvious. you find it in no time ai aii. sa— obvious. you find it in no time ai as so yau— obvious. you find it in no time at all. so you can— obvious. you find it in no time at all. 25“ 2 “2 at all. so you can keep sending at all. so you can keep sending a signal back . and as at all. so you can keep sending a signal back. and as i at all. so you can keep sending a signal back . and as i say, if a signal back. and as i say, if ihs— a signal back. and as i say, if ihs ssus— a signal back. and as i say, if the rescue modules- 2“5 2 and as i say, if the rescue modules are sending dawn— the rescue modules are sending aawn as— the rescue modules are sending down are on a cable winch, why asni— down are on a cable winch, why asni ihs— down are on a cable winch, why wasn't the titan?— down are on a cable winch, why wasn't the titan? i— down are on a cable winch, why wasn't the titan? i never understood _ wasn't the titan? i never understood that from the hsginning. — understood that from the beginning. 350-- understood that from the beginning. �*fw�*i0;-- - beginning. well, like. like chris said, there there is this idea and the vibe from their website or their advertising is website or their advertising is we push the boundaries. they pride themselves in a way they seem to pride themselves on the fact that they were maverick and radical. all very well until it goes wrong . and there's a thin, goes wrong. and there's a thin, shin— goes wrong. and there's a thin, ihin kins.— goes wrong. and there's a thin, thin line, isn't— goes wrong. and there's a thin, thin line, isn't there,- 2 2 and there's a thin, thin line, isn't there, between iaking— thin line, isn't there, between iaking risks— thin line, isn't there, between taking risks and— thin line, isn't there, between taking risks and being irresponsible . yeah, absolutely. irresponsible. yeah, absolutely. knu— irresponsible. yeah, absolutely. ana ansy-ws— irresponsible. yeah, absolutely. and they've crossed— irresponsible. yeah, absolutely. and they've crossed that- irresponsible. yeah, absolutely. and they've crossed that line very much so , which is sad and very much so, which is sad and it's tragic and it's awful. and we're still praying and hoping for the best. maybe. but we talk to for the best. maybe. but we talk ia au— for the best. maybe. but we talk ia has— for the best. maybe. but we talk to our former royal— maybe. but we talk to our former royal navy suhasi— to our former royal navy

submarine commander yesterday wha— submarine commander yesterday wha saia— submarine commander yesterday wha saia ihs— submarine commander yesterday who said the word— submarine commander yesterday who said the word tragedy in the hissi— who said the word tragedy in the first sentence. _ who said the word tragedy in the first sentence. and— who said the word tragedy in the first sentence. and i said, ysah— first sentence. and i said, ysah. was— first sentence. and i said, yeah. was that- first sentence. and i said, yeah. was that a freudian slip? it yeah. was that a freudian slip? ii—ns— yeah. was that a freudian slip? ii—ns saia- yeah. was that a freudian slip? ii—ns saia .- yeah. was that a freudian slip? |t_ he said , then| it wasn't awful. he said, then is— it wasn't awful. he said, then ii-s — it wasn't awful. he said, then it's over. still— it wasn't awful. he said, then it's over. still to— it wasn't awful. he said, then it's over. still to come , we're it's over. still to come, we're going— it's over. still to come, we're gaing ia— it's over. still to come, we're gaing ha is— it's over. still to come, we're going to be speaking to our nanh—wssi— going to be speaking to our north—west of— going to be speaking to our north—west of england. reporter sanhis— north—west of england. reporteri sanhis—nsanis sophie reaper signing up people asking— feeling ahead of today's inisissi— feeling ahead of today's- interest—which feeling ahead of today's- interest_which is interest rate announce which is saning— interest rate announce which is saning-niiiay-

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bev turner. so experts are warning that a recession could now be inevitable, as there are predictions that bank of predictions that the bank of england hike interest england could hike interest rates a% today was the rates by half a% today was the bank's 13th consecutive rise and comes as inflation remains stubbornly high at 8.7. it didn't at all last month. didn't fall at all last month. no, north—west of england no, our north—west of england nsaansn—iainsl no, our north—west of englandi reporter—joins us reporter sophie reaper joins us han— reporter sophie reaper joins us from manchester— reporter sophie reaper joins us from manchester this morning for a—isanis-s- a special breakfast people's nansi— a special breakfast people's nansi whai— a special breakfast people's panel what are— a special breakfast people's panel what are folks saying snss— panel what are folks saying there, sophie,— panel what are folks saying there, sophie, about this inasnaing— there, sophie, about this impending decision . well, a very impending decision. well, a very gaai— impending decision. well, a very gaaa manning— impending decision. well, a very gaaa nanning ia— impending decision. well, a very good morning to you both. 34:0 ”0 good morning to you both. we are at good morning to you both. we are as sns— good morning to you both. we are as she nsss— good morning to you both. we are at the mess cafe— good morning to you both. we are at the mess cafe in— good morning to you both. we are at the mess cafe in wythenshawe in manchester. like you say, for our people panel, joined by three very lovely people this morning . so let's get right into morning. so let's get right into them and start asking them about them and start asking them about the crucial issues, as you say there. so ian will come to yourself first. you suffer with a disability and are therefore on universal credit. talk to me a little bit about that, how thatis a little bit about that, how that is impacting on you given the cost of living and inflation. it basically means inas— inflation. it basically means ihai yau— inflation. it basically means that you have— inflation. it basically means that you have to— inflation. it basically means that you have to cut- 5“ it basically means that you have to cut your cloth ana— that you have to cut your cloth and ii— that you have to cut your cloth and it basically— that you have to cut your cloth and it basically means that you

has— and it basically means that you has ia— and it basically means that you has ia kins— and it basically means that you have to kind of— and it basically means that you have to kind of watch what you buy— have to kind of watch what you buy ana— have to kind of watch what you buy and .careful_ have to kind of watch what you buy and .careful of- have to kind of watch what you buy and careful of what you buy and be careful of what you buy.— buy and be careful of what you buy ii— buy and be careful of what you buy. it basically— buy and be careful of what you buy. it basically means that you iaak— buy. it basically means that you iaak in— buy. it basically means that you iaak in ihs— buy. it basically means that you look in the cupboards and see signs.— look in the cupboards and see ngn, i-ws— look in the cupboards and see gun, in gas.— look in the cupboards and see right, i've got, you know, six sins— right, i've got, you know, six sins-saun— right, i've got, you know, six iinslsaun. i— right, i've got, you know, six tins-soup. i can- right, i've got, you know, six tins soup. i can make six tins of soup. i can make six iunshss— tins of soup. i can make six iunshss aus— tins of soup. i can make six lunches out of— tins of soup. i can make six lunches out of that and make it iasi. — lunches out of that and make it iasi. kni— lunches out of that and make it last. and until— lunches out of that and make it last. and until you— lunches out of that and make it last. and until you actually saw— last. and until you actually say aa— last. and until you actually really do need— last. and until you actually really do need to make a big shan— really do need to make a big shah ana— really do need to make a big shop and then— really do need to make a big shop and then plan your shop ahsasi— shop and then plan your shop ahsai. sa— shop and then plan your shop ahead. so it's— shop and then plan your shop ahead. so it's really quite a aihisuii— ahead. so it's really quite a difficult thing,— ahead. so it's really quite a difficult thing, isn't it, to haianss. — difficult thing, isn't it, to balance. h 2 difficult thing, isn't it, to- balance. nicole, i know you're a working mum. we've been talking this morning about how you're balancing it all. i know you've taken on a part time job, but talk to me about how that's impacting you. but also, i know we've talked about we're coming up to the school holidays. how is that going impact working is that going to impact working parents and the country parents up and down the country as s0 parents up and down the country as so as a self—employed as well? so as a self—employed business woman have taken business woman have just taken on time job to be able to on a part time job to be able to actually with the demands actually cope with the demands of costs. and of the rising costs. and interestingly— of the rising costs. and interestingly ,- ” “2 2 and interestingly , yesterday i of the rising costs. and- interestingly , yesterday i spoke interestingly, yesterday i spoke to interestingly, yesterday i spoke ia haun— interestingly, yesterday i spoke to four business— interestingly, yesterday i spoke to four business women all wanking— to four business women all wanking nuns— to four business women all working mums, who have also iaksn— working mums, who have also iaksn an— working mums, who have also iaksn an aan— working mums, who have also taken on part time jobs as well. kni— taken on part time jobs as well. and saning— taken on part time jobs as well. and saning ua— taken on part time jobs as well. and coming up to— taken on part time jobs as well. and coming up to the summer haiiiays— and coming up to the summer holidays, though,— and coming up to the summer holidays, though, we are in a siiuaiian—

holidays, though, we are in a situation where— holidays, though, we are in a situation where how these situation where how are these asanis— situation where how are these asaais supposed_ situation where how are these people supposed to be able to anang— people supposed to be able to anang-han— people supposed to be able to afford for childcare when afford to pay for childcare when we afford to pay for childcare when ws—ai— afford to pay for childcare when ws—ai £320- afford to pay for childcare when ws—ai am a- afford to pay for childcare when we_at £320 a week| we are looking at £320 a week for we are looking at £320 a week has swa— we are looking at £320 a week for two children— we are looking at £320 a week for two children and they want inas— for two children and they want shas-unnam— for two children and they want that upfront advance that money upfront in advance ani— that money upfront in advance and as— that money upfront in advance and as an— that money upfront in advance and as ian was— that money upfront in advance and as ian was saying then with whiwsnsai— and as ian was saying then with universal credit— and as ian was saying then with universal credit for anybody who is an— universal credit for anybody who is an-sisiii.- universal credit for anybody who is on-credit, they- is on universal credit, they sannai— is on universal credit, they cannot actually— is on universal credit, they cannot actually claim any of inas— cannot actually claim any of shas—hask- cannot actually claim any of that—back until. cannot actually claim any of. that—back until after that percentage back until after the that percentage back until after ihs shia— that percentage back until after the child .already- that percentage back until after the child already been the child has already been ihiaugh— the child has already been ihnaugh ihs— the child has already been through the childcare. until through the childcare. so until ssaisnhsi— through the childcare. so until ssaisnhsn .— through the childcare. so until september , they— through the childcare. so until september , they wouldn't be able september, they wouldn't be able to september, they wouldn't be able ia siain — september, they wouldn't be able ia siain any— september, they wouldn't be able ia siain any as— september, they wouldn't be able to claim any of that money back. so to claim any of that money back. sa-iaaking— to claim any of that money back. sa-iaaking ia— to claim any of that money back. so-looking to have- so they are looking to have to fini— so they are looking to have to fins-wsii— so they are looking to have to find-well over- so they are looking to have to find well over £1,000 find probably well over £1,000 rush— find probably well over £1,000 iusi ia— find probably well over £1,000 iusi ia nui— find probably well over £1,000 just to put their— find probably well over £1,000 just to put their children into shiiisans— just to put their children into childcare _weeks- childcare for a few weeks ihiaughaui— childcare for a few weeks throughout summer holidays throughout the summer holidays assass— before they've even worked out. so before they've even worked out. sa ysah— before they've even worked out. sa ysah. ihings— before they've even worked out. so yeah, things stretch , but so yeah, things are stretch, but i so yeah, things are stretch, but i-ii-s— so yeah, things are stretch, but i-it's something- so yeah, things are stretch, but i it's something that i mean, it's something that sssing— i mean, it's something that we're seeing not- i mean, it's something that we're seeing not just in withenshaw_ we're seeing not just in withenshaw ,- we're seeing not just in withenshaw , not just in withenshaw, not just in manchester, _ withenshaw, not just in manchester, all over the uk. ws— manchester, all over the uk. ia-s aiissaing— manchester, all over the uk. it's affecting our— manchester, all over the uk. it's affecting our communities as erinma are a community as erinma you are a community activist, you work in moorside with your community, see, how are you seeing people in the community being impacted by the cost of living and inflation? ian well, basically what we're sssing— ian well, basically what we're sssing is— ian well, basically what we're seeing is that— ian well, basically what we're seeing is that it's— ian well, basically what we're seeing is that it's local gnassnaais— seeing is that it's local grassroots individuals and naniiiss— grassroots individuals and families that— grassroots individuals and families that are actually, you knaw—

families that are actually, you knaw-hai— families that are actually, you know,-for this- families that are actually, you know, for this rising know, paying for this rising iiwing— know, paying for this rising living costs.— know, paying for this rising living costs. they're already wanking— living costs. they're already wanking swa— living costs. they're already working two and three jobs and ihsy— working two and three jobs and ihsy aan-i— working two and three jobs and they don't have— working two and three jobs and they don't have much money as it is, they don't have much money as it is. hus— they don't have much money as it is. hui ihsn— they don't have much money as it is, but then energy— they don't have much money as it is, but then energy bills are going— is, but then energy bills are going up— is, but then energy bills are gaing up ana— is, but then energy bills are going up and they're still having— going up and they're still having ia— going up and they're still having to find— going up and they're still having to find more money doing sana— having to find more money doing sana wank— having to find more money doing extra work cost— having to find more money doing extra work cost of— having to find more money doing extra work cost of living is going— extra work cost of living is gaing-sasi— extra work cost of living is gaing-sasi af- extra work cost of living is going cost of food going going up, cost of food is going up. .wss— going up, cost of food is going up. .we're finding- going up, cost of food is going up. we're finding it's the up. and we're finding it's the iasai— up. and we're finding it's the iasai-ihai— up. and we're finding it's the local-that are- up. and we're finding it's the local that are being made local people that are being made to pay— local people that are being made ia aay hai— local people that are being made ia pay has his— local people that are being made to pay for this cost— local people that are being made to pay for this cost of living snsis— to pay for this cost of living -nai- to pay for this cost of living crisis-not their- crisis. and it's not their snsis— crisis. and it's not their crisis. it's— crisis. and it's not their crisis. it's not- crisis. and it's not their crisis. it's not their crisis. ihsy-is — crisis. it's not their crisis. they're already- crisis. it's not their crisis. they're already living in crisis in—inl in our area. again, down in mass— in our area. again, down in iiassisy-a- in our area. again, down in mossley,-a lot- in our area. again, down in mossley,-a lot ofi in our area. again, down in- mossley,-a lot of people mossley, we have a lot of people inas— mossley, we have a lot of people shas—hays— mossley, we have a lot of people that—have access- mossley, we have a lot of people that—have access to l that don't even have access to nuhiis— that don't even have access to auhiis sunss— that don't even have access to public funds, no _ that don't even have access to public funds, no recourse to nuhiis— public funds, no recourse to public funds. _ public funds, no recourse to public funds. so _ public funds, no recourse to public funds. so where they public funds. so where are they supposed_ public funds. so where are they suaaassi-ihs— public funds. so where are they supposed the extra money supposed to get the extra money hams—hays- supposed to get the extra money hams—hays any| from? they just don't have any nsy — from? they just don't have any nsy _ihai— from? they just don't have any nansy-ihai is- from? they just don't have any money.-that is-big. money. well, that is the big gussiian— money. well, that is the big question,-and- money. well, that is the big question,-and be question, of course, and will be wish— question, of course, and will be wiih ihs— question, of course, and will be with the-panel- question, of course, and will be with the panel here in with the people's panel here in iianshssisi— with the people's panel here in manchester for— with the people's panel here in manchester for the rest of iaiay—nsaiiyi today, asking those really snusiai— today, asking those really crucial questions and getting the crucial questions and getting ihs-wish— crucial questions and gettingi the _with-people's the answers with the people's shannsi. — the answers with the people's channel. .we're- the answers with the people's channel. ”0 “0”0; the answers with the people's channel. ”0 ”0.0 2 channel. and we're here today with people. all thank you, with the people. all thank you, saahis. — with the people. all thank you, saahis. insaiiy— with the people. all thank you, sophie. .really good- with the people. all thank you, sophie. .really good to- all thank you, sophie. really good to know sophie. it's really good to know haw— sophie. it's really good to know haw-ahssiing— sophie. it's really good to know how affecting people. it how this is affecting people. it is—aui— how this is affecting people. it is—aui insis- how this is affecting people. it is_out there .the i is so difficult out there at the ansni— is so difficult out there at the nansni-ii-s— is so difficult out there at the moment it's going to get a moment and it's going to get a lot moment and it's going to get a iai — moment and it's going to get a lot worse. yeah,— moment and it's going to get a lot worse. i405“ lot worse. yeah, small businesses, people worrying about and about their mortgage rates. and don't are renting don't forget, people are renting homes. rents are up homes. their rents are going up because have put

because landlords have to put the because their the rent up because their mortgages gone up. that's mortgages have gone up. that's everybody absolutely. _ 22 2 - that's everybody absolutely. let's understand _ everybody absolutely. let's understand - a - everybody absolutely. let's. understand - a - bit understand this in a little bit naks-raining- understand this in a little biti more _joining-is understand this in a little biti m01ceo-joining-is understand this in a little bit m01ceo of joining is understand this in a little bit m01ceo of glacierg is understand this in a little bit m01ceo of glacier environmental the ceo of glacier environmental iuns— the ceo of glacier environmental iuni ani— the ceo of glacier environmental fund and author— the ceo of glacier environmental fund and author of— the ceo of glacier environmental fund and author of planet ponzi iiiish— fund and author of planet ponzi wish—whsn- fund and author of planet ponzi mitch—mitch, great. mitch fires stein. mitch, great to mitch fires stein. mitch, great ia-ihis— mitch fires stein. mitch, great ia-ihis is— mitch fires stein. mitch, great to this is something to see you this is something inas— to see you this is something ihai yaus— to see you this is something that you've been— to see you this is something that you've been warning about for that you've been warning about hailiang— that you've been warning about hailiang-iusi— that you've been warning about for. long _just give - that you've been warning about for long just give us for a long time. just give us yau— for a long time. just give us your assessment— for a long time. just give us your assessment of why we've got insa— your assessment of why we've got into - situation _ your assessment of why we've got into-situation . _ your assessment of why we've got into-situation . well,- into this situation. well, thanks— into this situation. well, thanks iaa— into this situation. well, thanks for having me, bev. look it was predictable. it's not a victory lap that i'm very proud of, but i mean, the politicians should should know . and i think should should know. and i think i think that there's been some significant issues with with what we're talking about here. i mean, this is the worst cost of living crisis in uk history. and we have , you know, a consistent we have, you know, a consistent theme . can you hear me? yeah, theme. can you hear me? yeah, yeah, we can. yeah. yeah. a consistent theme. that's a lack of leadership and regulation and oversight. so this has led to the largest mal investment in the largest mal investment in the history of the united kingdom . we have, you know, kingdom. we have, you know, james cleverly came on and said that it's because of the war with russia. that's just

inaccurate and not really true because if you look at the price of crude oil, if you pull out a chart, the price of crude oil is lower now than it was in february of 2020, when before the outbreak of the conflict between ukraine and russia. so these energy prices are lower. so that's just untrue. that's the first part. that's untrue . the first part. that's untrue. and the second part that's untrue is that ukraine is going to a determinant to win. and that's a determinant factor. that's not really the case. so now what we've got to talk about as well is that pubuc talk about as well is that public private partnership . public private partnership. whenever you hear that triple p pubuc whenever you hear that triple p public private partnership to ensure war insurance on ukraine and we're investing $3 billion when people can't put food on the tables for their families or pay the tables for their families or pay for their electric motty in this country, that is this this is not right as far as i'm concerned. the uk also has a debt addiction problem . we spent debt addiction problem. we spent $20 billion more than we took in in revenues last month, which is part of the problem. we have a problem with our pensions and property property markets . so

property property markets. so the fiscal profligacy from the bank of england since mervyn king. mark carney and where we are today has caused this mess. it's not brexit, it's not covid, it's not russia . it's bad it's not russia. it's bad leadership , lack of leadership, lack of accountability and a lack of enforcement of existing regulations . as you know, we've regulations. as you know, we've got an invasion by illegal immigrants piling over the borders. an opaque amount of spending of our billions of dollars where we have no say over anything anymore. and if you make comments that people don't like , you get censored don't like, you get censored everywhere and you can't you're not allowed to have have a reasonable conversation or a debate so whole debate anymore. so the whole culture has changed. so what does the bank of england that's way behind the curve. they've raised too little , too late. and raised too little, too late. and this is hurting people. food inflation is up over 20. the numbers that came out yesterday illustrated 16.7, six, 14.7, which is understating all of these numbers that are released.

these statistics understate the real cost to people. i mean, you've got a panel up there in manchester. you tell me how much pnces manchester. you tell me how much prices have increased on your food . i know how much they've food. i know how much they've increased on my food. it's way over what the government is telling you. disingenuous telling you. it's disingenuous to people aren't to represent that people aren't stupid. could to represent that people aren't stupid . could i ask you very stupid. could i ask you very bushy.— stupid. could i ask you very briefly, under— 2 could i ask you very briefly, under pressure on here, iiiish— briefly, under pressure on here, wish. a— briefly, under pressure on here, wish. a wssy— briefly, under pressure on here, mitch, a very simple solution wauia— mitch, a very simple solution wauia is— mitch, a very simple solution would be what— mitch, a very simple solution would be what they've done in ssinany.— would be what they've done in germany, which _ would be what they've done in germany, which-a- would be what they've done in germany, which a green germany, which is in a green saaiiiian— germany, which is in a green coalition-strip- germany, which is in a green coalition strip out coalition we could strip out ihsss— coalition we could strip out ihsss-gissn- coalition we could strip out these green taxes in these wretched green taxes in our these wretched green taxes in sisswis— these wretched green taxes in our electric and _ these wretched green taxes in our electric and gas bills, whish— our electric and gas bills, which would— our electric and gas bills, which would be an immediate ssassi— which would be an immediate release-families- which would be an immediate release families and it release for families and it wauii— release for families and it wauia sui— release for families and it would cut inflation overnight , would cut inflation overnight, highw— would cut inflation overnight, nghis wsii— would cut inflation overnight, nghis wsii i— would cut inflation overnight, right? well i know that that inas— right? well i know that that ihai nssas— right? well i know that that that needs to— right? well i know that that that needs to be done. but we hays— that needs to be done. but we hays higgsi— that needs to be done. but we have bigger problems because the pension situation has not been remedied. neither has the commercial property and residential property bubble that's set to explode . that has that's set to explode. that has to be dealt with as interest rates go up. families can't afford their mortgages. and to come on on gb news with the you know , james cleverly and say know, james cleverly and say what he said , it's just what he said, it's just disingenuous. so we've got

undervalued commodities right now . there are silver undervalued commodities right now. there are silver linings for people who see what's coming next which, you know, i can help you guys navigate through this crisis, but , you guys navigate through this crisis, but, you you guys navigate through this crisis, but , you know, we need crisis, but, you know, we need to listen to alternative voices. i've called this right. but our government has called it entirely wrong. nobody's entirely wrong. and nobody's ever held to account. and that's the problem. not the problem. look, i'm not saying starmer has saying that keir starmer has a silver bullet because he certainly doesn't. i'm certainly doesn't. but what i'm saying is the people who have got it incredibly wrong need to be account and their be held to account and their feet to held to the feet need to be held to the fire. otherwise, we're just going repeat and it's going to repeat this and it's going to repeat this and it's going next time. we going to be worse next time. we are headed for a crisis now. it's unavoidable. thank you, wish.— it's unavoidable. thank you, iiiish—hawsl it's unavoidable. thank you,- mitch._have have mitch. always great to have have yaw— mitch. always great to have have yaui insighi. — mitch. always great to have have your insight. feierstein your insight. mitch feierstein insis— your insight. mitch feierstein ihsis. kna— your insight. mitch feierstein there. and actually find there. and you can actually find him— there. and you can actually find hinliwiiisn— there. and you can actually find him-twitter at— there. and you can actually find him twitter at planet ponzi. him on twitter at planet ponzi. if him on twitter at planet ponzi. n yau— him on twitter at planet ponzi. in yau wani— him on twitter at planet ponzi. if you want-hear— him on twitter at planet ponzi. if you want-hear a- him on twitter at planet ponzi. if you want hear a little bit if you want to hear a little bit more-assessment- if you want to hear a little bit more assessment right. we more of his assessment right. we hays— more of his assessment right. we hays-nas-ws- more of his assessment right. we have - more, .we are i have got a lot more, but we are kais— have got a lot more, but we are iais nai— have got a lot more, but we are iais fan ihs— have got a lot more, but we are late for the news— have got a lot more, but we are late for the news with rhiannon . saaa— late for the news with rhiannon . good morning.— late for the news with rhiannon . good morning. it's 1030 late for the news with rhiannon . good morning. it's1030 for . good morning. it's 1030 for yaw— . good morning. it's 1030 for yaui iaa— . good morning. it's 1030 for your top stories— . good morning. it's 1030 for your top stories from the newsroom. the- your top stories from the newsroom. your top stories from the- newsroom. the us coastguard your top stories from the—

newsroom. the us coastguard says the search for the missing titanic submerged people has been expanded as it enters its critical phase . this aircraft critical phase. this aircraft and ten ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic while two remote controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor under the surface. l'atalante carrying state of the art rov has now arrived in the area. according to website, marine traffic.com british deep water salvage company magellan is also en route . five people is also en route. five people are inside the craft that lost contact with the surface on sunday. the bank of england is set to increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive time later, as it tries to tackle ongoing price rises. the latest figures published yesterday showed inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to lower inflation amid rising inflation. labour has called on banks to

provide support to homeowners facing mortgage payment difficulties . the party claims difficulties. the party claims their five point plan would allow borrowers to switch to interest only payments or extend their mortgage terms. the government says lenders are already required to engage with struggling customers and king charles says the windrush generation has made a significant difference to the uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent. 75 years after the first crossing from the caribbean, the king will be among those at the service held at windsor castle later to mark the anniversary, a £1 million fund raising efforts also underway to recover the anchor from the ship that made the crossing rmt empire windrush sank off the coast of algeria in 1954. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news .com . our website, gb news .com. direct bullion sponsors the

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revved up with me patrick shnsiys— revved up with me patrick shnsiys an— revved up with me patrick christys on gb— revved up with me patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news kaiia— christys on gb news. i'm gb news kaiia .— christys on gb news. i'm gb news kaiia . saaa— christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . good morning . radio. good morning. thank you for joining us. it's 1040. radio. good morning. thank you for joining us. it's1040. this forjoining us. it's1040. this is the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. well, it's today marks the anniwssany— well, it's today marks the anniversary of— well, it's today marks the anniversary of the arrival in isas— anniversary of the arrival in inns ah— anniversary of the arrival in 1948 of empire— anniversary of the arrival in 1948 of empire windrush , one of 1948 of empire windrush, one of the 1948 of empire windrush, one of ihs insi— 1948 of empire windrush, one of ihs hinsi shins— 1948 of empire windrush, one of the first ships to— 1948 of empire windrush, one of the first ships to carry west inaian— the first ships to carry west indian migrants— the first ships to carry west indian migrants to the uk. uk's niiiain— indian migrants to the uk. uk's naiiain swing— indian migrants to the uk. uk's britain during the— indian migrants to the uk. uk's britain during the post war nsnaa— britain during the post war period .january,- period in january, the government- period in january, the _ government-applications government opened applications for government opened applications hanihs— government opened applications for the windrush— government opened applications for the windrush day grant sshsnns— for the windrush day grant sshsns . — for the windrush day grant scheme . “ .g for the windrush day grant scheme . “ 2”0- scheme. community groups, charities councils were charities and councils were ianed charities and councils were invited bid for their share invited to bid for their share of a £750,000 funding pot to mark the 75th anniversary. well the tory mp for broxtowe, darren henry. darren henry, joins us darren henry, joins us now. darren morning to you. your

faniiy— now. darren morning to you. your aaniiy sws— now. darren morning to you. your aaniiy aan— now. darren morning to you. your family were part of— now. darren morning to you. your family were part of the first i— family were part of the first wave, i think— family were part of the first wave, i think that came here, 75 ysas— wave, i think that came here, 75 ysaas aga— wave, i think that came here, 75 ysaas aga. isii— wave, i think that came here, 75 years ago. tell us— wave, i think that came here, 75 years ago. tell us more . o“ years ago. tell us more. oh, gassi— years ago. tell us more. oh, gosh naming.— years ago. tell us more. oh, good morning. thanks very much for inviting me on. by the way, i'm the first conservative mp of west indian heritage and i'm very , very proud of that. my very, very proud of that. my parents came here. my mum in 1965 by boat, and my dad in 1961 by plane. and they came here. they were proud . they wanted to they were proud. they wanted to work hard and get on in life and that's what they achieved. was the reception always was the reception always warm and sshs— the reception always warm and welcome , darren,— the reception always warm and welcome , darren, because we know welcome, darren, because we know ihsas-s— welcome, darren, because we know ihsas-s hssn— welcome, darren, because we know there's been those— welcome, darren, because we know there's been those stories about signs— there's been those stories about signs in— there's been those stories about signs in waaaius— there's been those stories about signs in various windows in ianaian— signs in various windows in london homes— signs in various windows in london homes saying we probably aan-i— london homes saying we probably aan-i nsss— london homes saying we probably aan-i nssai ia— london homes saying we probably aan-i nssai ia ga— london homes saying we probably don't need to go into the assail— don't need to go into the detail, but— don't need to go into the detail, but no— don't need to go into the detail, but no irish, no. and i ihink— detail, but no irish, no. and i ihink i— detail, but no irish, no. and i think i could— detail, but no irish, no. and i think i could be— detail, but no irish, no. and i think i could be blunt. it said no think i could be blunt. it said na hiasks— think i could be blunt. it said na hiasks .— think i could be blunt. it said no blacks , absolutely . ' “2 no blacks, absolutely. and we did no blacks, absolutely. and we aiu hays— no blacks, absolutely. and we did have that. we had the prejudice. and of course, the people from the west indies, they came here coming to the motherland. so it was quite a shock. the mother country, great

britain, to get that kind of reception when they got here. my own parents, who wanted to work hard and get on my dad was working night shifts in a factory, a vauxhall motors. my mum was working 2 to 10 shifts. they were passing like ships in the night and they were doing that because wanted own that because they wanted to own their they came their own home. so they came along house, wanted to buy along to a house, wanted to buy it. sorry, not there. the same story everywhere they went until a white solicitor, then enquired about a home and. and guess what? they were available. so? so we have our own personal experience of that. what's the response to that? to be resilient, to carry on. and they always own their own home. when i when i always own their own home. when iwhen i grew always own their own home. when i when i grew up and they got on in life and things have changed now we've moved on. darren when did decide you wanted to did you decide you wanted to become an mp? well, i was served in ihs— become an mp? well, i was served in has kayak— become an mp? well, i was served in has kayak nia— become an mp? well, i was served in the royal air force— become an mp? well, i was served in the royal air force and- 2 5“ ii 37�*7 well, i was served in the royal air force and of course that's— in the royal air force and of course that's really important giwsn— course that's really important giwsn inas— course that's really important given that it's— course that's really important given that it's armed forces wssk— given that it's armed forces wssk anis— given that it's armed forces week this week— given that it's armed forces week this week i served for many ysaas— week this week i served for many ysaas ani— week this week i served for many ysaas ana aa— week this week i served for many years and of course— week this week i served for many years and of course many of the

asanis— years and of course many of the asaais nan — years and of course many of the asaais nan ihs— years and of course many of the people from the caribbean came hsas ani— people from the caribbean came over here and you're talking insa— over here and you're talking inia ihs— over here and you're talking into the 60s— over here and you're talking into the 60s and— over here and you're talking into the 60s and 70s. . 2 into the 60s and 70s. it came hsas— into the 60s and 70s. it came here having served in the armed forces and wanted to rebuild this country after the war. that's what they came here to do myself. it was all about i was in the in the forces. i believe in the in the forces. i believe in defence of the realm is our priority for this country . i priority for this country. i didn't feel i needed to be political when i was in the services. i mean, that's something that people do now. but when i left, i was a logistics officer and i worked briefly in business as a general manager of food distribution company and found that i wasn't really a business person. i liked service. so liked public service. so i became a councillor. i run a youth club and became a county councillor and now an mp. so that's my journey. but why conservative? because as my parents worked really , really parents worked really, really hard, all those night shifts and everything else. and i think if you work hard you should be able

to get on in life and that's a principle i hold by and that's why conservative and why i'm a conservative mp and darren mum and dad, are darren did your mum and dad, are they glad they made that decision to come here and. absolutely, absolutely . you absolutely, absolutely. you know, this was the land of opportunity and of course that's exactly what they found when they came here. they were able to get on. yes, there were bumps in the road. there are setbacks, but are very , very but they are very, very resilient. and i put part of that through the engagement that the caribbean people did with this country. and some fantastic role models like sir trevor mcdonald, that came here. it showed people that , you know, we showed people that, you know, we are just people and, you know, we have hopes and dreams as well . and we live in a country, great britain , where those hopes great britain, where those hopes and dreams can come true. my parents found that very proud of them for delivering on that in their lives. where are we at now, darren, do— their lives. where are we at now, darren, do you- ” - where are we at now, darren, do you think, in isans— now, darren, do you think, in isans aa— now, darren, do you think, in terms of racial— now, darren, do you think, in terms of racial equality and gsiiing— terms of racial equality and gsiiing aia— terms of racial equality and gsiiing aiu aa— terms of racial equality and getting rid of discrimination in the getting rid of discrimination in has iiks— getting rid of discrimination in has iiks ws— getting rid of discrimination in the uk? we heard i think yssisaaay— the uk? we heard i think yesterday that- the uk? we heard i think yesterday that angela rayner is

going— yesterday that angela rayner is gaing ia— yesterday that angela rayner is gaing ha is— yesterday that angela rayner is gaing ia hs ihs— yesterday that angela rayner is going to be the diversity tsar for going to be the diversity tsar fan has — going to be the diversity tsar for the labour— going to be the diversity tsar for the labour party . does that for the labour party. does that assi— for the labour party. does that assi a— for the labour party. does that assi a kinks— for the labour party. does that feel a little bit— for the labour party. does that feel a little bit outdated to you— feel a little bit outdated to yau haw— feel a little bit outdated to yau .— feel a little bit outdated to yau . — feel a little bit outdated to yau . i— feel a little bit outdated to you now. ithink- feel a little bit outdated to you now. . you now. i think it is personally , i think, you know, personally, i think, you know, true leadership should be, you know, from the prime minister down or whatever field you're in and you're acting as a leader. the qualities is something that you should think about. your duty of care is something that you should think about as a manager regardless. you know, why have a separate person just thinking about, you know, the plight of black people? i just think it's inappropriate that we're part of the fabric of society or we're inclusive, and there are setbacks and there are issues , but it's how you respond issues, but it's how you respond to that . or you're in a country to that. or you're in a country now where you can flourish and thatis now where you can flourish and that is fantastic. my parents did, and i hope to emulate that. darren, just finally, i bet your ani— darren, just finally, i bet your ana aai— darren, just finally, i bet your mum and dad were very proud of you mum and dad were very proud of yau hssaning— mum and dad were very proud of yau hssaning an— mum and dad were very proud of you becoming an mp . 350-- mum and dad were very proud of

you becoming an mp . �*fw�*0;-- you becoming an mp. well, they wished— you becoming an mp. well, they visited parliament and it is a very, very special place and i'm always thinking that my parents think that because they've watched everything on on television all these years and now i'm here. but i'm here to, to make a difference. i've had a career. i've had three careers now. and you know, my children are grown up now. i'm 100% focussed on working hard for my constituents, but i actually feel i have the tools to do it. my feel i have the tools to do it. my parents know that. and so, you know , they wish me well and you know, they wish me well and they've they've enjoyed their visit to parliament super . visit to parliament super. thank you. talk to you. darren henry, who's the conservative mp for broxtowe. thanks for joining us. i'm just checking his dad, harry, came from jamaica. his mum, from trinidad. nice mum, gloria from trinidad. nice bloke. don't we bloke. isn't it? why don't we sss-wis— bloke. isn't it? why don't we see-mps like- bloke. isn't it? why don't we see-mps like that- bloke. isn't it? why don't we see-mps like that on. . .7 why don't we see mps like that on the see more mps like that on the shy?— see more mps like that on the isiiys ws— see more mps like that on the isiiys ws say.— see more mps like that on the telly? we say, how many times do we telly? we say, how many times do ws aia— telly? we say, how many times do ws aia ihiss — telly? we say, how many times do ws aia ihiss i— telly? we say, how many times do we do this? i know— telly? we say, how many times do we do this? i know he's terrific. you good?- we do this? 2. you good? hard we do this? i know he's- terrific. you good? hard working his— terrific. you good? hard working his inas— terrific. you good? hard working his ihailans-s— terrific. you good? hard working mps that-one's heard- �*7 2. you good? hard working mps that one's heard of. and mps that no one's heard of. and we mps that no one's heard of. and ws asaiiss— mps that no one's heard of. and we realise - are _ mps that no one's heard of. and we realise-are good- mps that no one's heard of. and we realise are good people we realise there are good people in-san— we realise there are good people in-san iisisa— we realise there are good people in-sam lister and- we realise there are good people in sam lister and emma in politics. sam lister and emma

waif—kn- in politics. sam lister and emma waif—kn i- wolf are with us now. am i aighh— wolf are with us now. am i right, ladies— wolf are with us now. am i right, ladies why we see right, ladies? why do we see sansiinss— right, ladies? why do we see sometimes we— right, ladies? why do we see sometimes we see these idiots at the sometimes we see these idiots at ihs-gawsannsni— sometimes we see these idiots at the government pulling the top of government pulling swings— the top of government pulling swings s— the top of government pulling siaings s wa— the top of government pulling strings ? no, i'm— the top of government pulling strings ? no, i'm sorry. that strings? no, i'm sorry. that asni— strings? no, i'm sorry. that asni iaus.— strings? no, i'm sorry. that wasn't true. i'm— strings? no, i'm sorry. that wasn't true. i'm not going to go dawn— wasn't true. i'm not going to go aawn inas— wasn't true. i'm not going to go down that road— wasn't true. i'm not going to go down that road any— wasn't true. i'm not going to go down that road any political hus— down that road any political hus. i— down that road any political hus. i nnsan— down that road any political hue. i mean, any political hue at hue. i mean, any political hue ai aii— hue. i mean, any political hue ai ah. i— hue. i mean, any political hue at all. i don't— hue. i mean, any political hue at all. i don't hold— hue. i mean, any political hue at all. i don't hold keir siaansa— at all. i don't hold keir starmer in— at all. i don't hold keir starmer in any higher admiration ihan— starmer in any higher admiration ihanlaa. — starmer in any higher admiration ihanlaa. isishi— starmer in any higher admiration than do. rishi sunak him as than i do. rishi sunak him as inns— than i do. rishi sunak him as prime minister— than i do. rishi sunak him as prime minister our current. prime minister over our current. ksah. — prime minister over our current. ksah. why— prime minister over our current. ksah. why is— prime minister over our current. yeah. why is that— prime minister over our current. yeah. why is that sad ? o7 205. yeah. why is that sad? of great wis— yeah. why is that sad? of great was in— yeah. why is that sad? of great mps in parliament there are, but it's obviously it's ones who it's obviously it's the ones who do who make the do bad things, who make the news. but but it's also news. so but but it's also sansihing— news. so but but it's also something about- so but but it's also something about ones who something about the ones who skinh— something about the ones who sunk—pais- something about the ones who siinh—nais .- something about the ones who climb _pole , who i something about the ones who. climb—pole , who don't climb the greasy pole, who don't nsssssaaiiy— climb the greasy pole, who don't necessarily have— climb the greasy pole, who don't necessarily have the integrity of necessarily have the integrity aa—nan- necessarily have the integrity aa—nan iiks- necessarily have the integrity. of_man like darren of a wonderful man like darren nsnny.— of a wonderful man like darren nsnny. i— of a wonderful man like darren nsnay. i nnsan— of a wonderful man like darren nsnay. i i— of a wonderful man like darren henry. i mean, i think, you knaw— henry. i mean, i think, you knaw. ihs— henry. i mean, i think, you know, the whole- henry. i mean, i think, you know, the whole point of getting into know, the whole point of getting inia-is— know, the whole point of getting inia-is yau — know, the whole point of getting into-is you want- know, the whole point of getting into is you want get into politics is you want to get ihings— into politics is you want to get ihings-sa— into politics is you want to get ihings-salyau- things done. so if you don't wani— things done. so if you don't wanilsiinh— things done. so if you don't. want.climb_pole, want to climb the greasy pole, you— want to climb the greasy pole, yau knaw— want to climb the greasy pole, yau knaw. yau— want to climb the greasy pole, you know, you want to question why— you know, you want to question why yaus— you know, you want to question why you're actually there. you wani—ia- why you're actually there. you wani—ia gsi- why you're actually there. you want to get things want if you want to get things sans— want if you want to get things done-politics,— want if you want to get things done . politics, you - want if you want to get things done politics, you want to done in politics, you want to get— done in politics, you want to gsi-ian. — done in politics, you want to gsi-ian. ii-s- done in politics, you want to gsi-ian. its way. get to the top. it's very difficult— get to the top. it's very difficult achieve as a difficult to achieve as a backbencher_ difficult to achieve as a backbencher mean, difficult to achieve as a backbencher-mean, not backbencher. i mean, it's not inaassihis— backbencher. i mean, it's not impossible, obviously you impossible, but obviously you has— impossible, but obviously you hays—ai- impossible, but obviously you hays—as ihs- impossible, but obviously you have _at the top i impossible, but obviously youi have—at the top to have to really be at the top to do have to really be at the top to aia ihai. — have to really be at the top to aia ihai. sa— have to really be at the top to do that. so you've- have to really be at the top to do that. 20. do that. so you've got to want to be a power hungry megalomaniac. emma climbing the greasy lots

greasy pole involves lots of, you time wasting and you know, time wasting stuff and not doing kind of things not doing the kind of things that is doing and that darren is clearly doing and working constituency. working for your constituency. but say, if you if you if but as you say, if you if you if yaus— but as you say, if you if you if yaus nai— but as you say, if you if you if yaus nai ai— but as you say, if you if you if you're not at the— but as you say, if you if you if you're not at the top of the gasasy— you're not at the top of the gasasy-iaisn - you're not at the top of the greasy, totem pole, then greasy, greasy totem pole, then you greasy, greasy totem pole, then yau sah-i— greasy, greasy totem pole, then yau san-i gsi— greasy, greasy totem pole, then you can't get things done. but ihsn— you can't get things done. but ihsn-ninuis— you can't get things done. but then minute you're there, then the minute you're there, yaus— then the minute you're there, yau-as—anl then the minute you're there, you're then, you know, on the on tv, you're then, you know, on the on ivlwhais— you're then, you know, on the on tv,-whole time— you're then, you know, on the on tv,-whole time or,- you're then, you know, on the on tv, whole time or, you know, tv, the whole time or, you know, ananging— tv, the whole time or, you know, arranging department, arranging your department, yaus— arranging your department, yau-as—iaingl you're not actually doing ihings— you're not actually doing things. of things. so that's the beauty of our democracy,— things. so that's the beauty of our democracy, that we've got our democracy, is that we've got ihass— our democracy, is that we've got ihasslihs — our democracy, is that we've got ihasslihs iaa— our democracy, is that we've got those the top doing the, you those at the top doing the, you knaw— those at the top doing the, you knaw-ihs — those at the top doing the, you know,-the kind _ those at the top doing the, you know,-the kind of- know, the, the kind of government - know, the, the kind of government stuff. then we've government stuff. but then we've got backbenchers doing government stuff. but then we've got hard)ackbenchers doing government stuff. but then we've got hard workenchers doing government stuff. but then we've got hard work like ers doing government stuff. but then we've got hard work like darren. doing government stuff. but then we've got hard work like darren. so 1g the hard work like darren. so it's a nicely, nicely balanced system in my opinion. exactly says of says the political editor of the daily express. very diplomatically- 052. very diplomatically right. i5 2. very diplomatically right. let's daily express. very- diplomatically right. let's talk aiaus— diplomatically right. let's talk about—guys-i about the biggest story, guys. ihs— about the biggest story, guys. ihs-hiking.- about the biggest story, guys. the-ticking. it- about the biggest story, guys. the-ticking. it is- about the biggest story, guys. the ticking. it is 10 the clock is ticking. it is 10 to the clock is ticking. it is 10 ha ii— the clock is ticking. it is 10 ha ii haw— the clock is ticking. it is 10 ha ii ws— the clock is ticking. it is 10 to 11 now. we are- the clock is ticking. it is 10 to 11 now. we are hearing mixed shans— to 11 now. we are hearing mixed asaans aiaus— to 11 now. we are hearing mixed reports about the— to 11 now. we are hearing mixed reports about the oxygen that high— reports about the oxygen that high is— reports about the oxygen that high ias-ihs- reports about the oxygen that might be the titan sub. might be left on the titan sub. anna.— might be left on the titan sub. anna-rush— might be left on the titan sub. emma,-justltragic- might be left on the titan sub. emma, just tragic dodi emma, it's just a tragic dodi anis— emma, it's just a tragic dodi ihis siany. — emma, it's just a tragic dodi this story. this— emma, it's just a tragic dodi this story. this is- emma, it's just a tragic dodi this story. “ . this story. this is it feels as though this is an inevitable tragedy, mission. one tragedy, a suicide mission. one might say, i just keep might even say, i just keep thinking about those families, those relatives waiting when you don't know . i those relatives waiting when you don't know. i think humans can deal with pretty much anything, but like madeleine mccann's

but it's like madeleine mccann's parents. it's not knowing. and the longer they wait , you know, the longer they wait, you know, they wait and wait. and what it's been five how many it's been five days. how many days? it's sunday. days? well, it's sunday. sunday. they lost. they lost saniasi— sunday. they lost. they lost contact late— sunday. they lost. they lost contact late sunday morning and ansy— contact late sunday morning and ansy-hays— contact late sunday morning and ihsy-haws ia — contact late sunday morning and they-have to keep- contact late sunday morning and they have to keep hoping. they just have to keep hoping. buta— they just have to keep hoping. nun-knaw— they just have to keep hoping. nus-know. ws— they just have to keep hoping. but,-know, we hear- they just have to keep hoping. but,-know, we hear we- they just have to keep hoping. but, you know, we hear we keep heanng hearing about the number of breathable of air, that breathable hours of air, that lack of oxygen that are left dwindling, food , dwindling dwindling, food, dwindling water. noises water. are these noises something they something significant? are they not? they must have many suaaiiss— not? they must have many suaaiiss anyway.— “0.7 they must have many supplies anyway, because they ii— supplies anyway, because they i was— supplies anyway, because they were it was an— supplies anyway, because they were it was an eight hour iauansy— were it was an eight hour iauansy. ii— were it was an eight hour journey. it was- were it was an eight hour journey. it was an eight hour iauansy. — journey. it was an eight hour iauansy. knu— journey. it was an eight hour journey. ' “2 journey. it was an eight hour- journey. and they've-down journey. and they've been down there. yeah. as say, sunday journey. and they've been down thereyeah h. as say, sunday journey. and they've been down thereyeah and. say, sunday journey. and they've been down thereyeah and one say, sunday journey. and they've been down thereyeah and one wondersiday journey. and they've been down thereyeah and one wonders and day. yeah and one wonders and the and the. yeah. the cramped space and the. yeah. i you know knowledge i mean, you know the knowledge that every, every mouthful of air take is running out. air they take is running out. and awful thing, about and the awful thing, sam, about this and the awful thing, sam, about snis-assauss— this story, because it is a shaky.— this story, because it is a siaay. ihis— this story, because it is a siaay. ihis is— this story, because it is a story, this is it's the most san— story, this is it's the most san aa— story, this is it's the most sort of tragic,— story, this is it's the most sort of tragic, it's the worst iaagsaiy. — sort of tragic, it's the worst iaagsaiy. ia-s— sort of tragic, it's the worst iaagsaiy. ias-a- sort of tragic, it's the worst tragedy. it's a beginning, a tragedy. it's got a beginning, a niiais— tragedy. it's got a beginning, a niiiis ana— tragedy. it's got a beginning, a middle and an— tragedy. it's got a beginning, a middle and an end. we're looking at middle and an end. we're looking ai ihs— middle and an end. we're looking ai ihs aisiuass— middle and an end. we're looking at the pictures of— middle and an end. we're looking at the pictures of twitter at the pictures of the twitter assa. — at the pictures of the twitter feed-_jblly- - at the pictures of the twitter. feed._jolly. they're at the pictures of the twitter fee excited jolly. they're at the pictures of the twitter fee excited before jolly. they're at the pictures of the twitter fee excited before they they're at the pictures of the twitter fee excited before they theand all excited before they go. and haw-iaaks— all excited before they go. and now-looks really,- all excited before they go. and now looks really, really now it just looks really, really hisak. — now it just looks really, really hisak. n— now it just looks really, really bleak. it does. _ now it just looks really, really bleak. it does. .i- now it just looks really, really bleak. . 2 “

the there german the fact that there was a german adventurer who adventurer two years ago who went and he described it went on this and he described it as a suicide mission. he said bits falling off. it it's bits were falling off. it it's terrible. and so how how it terrible. and so how how was it ever allowed it's not ever allowed to it's not regulated properly to be operated this way. you know, operated in this way. you know, i think if you have an incident like that two years ago, that should have been a massive warning. don't don't carry on. and apparently contact has haaksn— and apparently contact has broken down— and apparently contact has broken down before. yeah, lots of broken down before. yeah, lots an ani— broken down before. yeah, lots an and ws— broken down before. yeah, lots of and we were— broken down before. yeah, lots of and we were talking to rear kiniaai— of and we were talking to rear admiral chris— of and we were talking to rear admiral chris parry, who says he ihinks— admiral chris parry, who says he ihinks ihs— admiral chris parry, who says he thinks the reason— admiral chris parry, who says he thinks the reason it was an signi— thinks the reason it was an sighi haun— thinks the reason it was an eight hour delay in alerting the us eight hour delay in alerting the us saasiguaai— eight hour delay in alerting the us coastguard eight hours after it us coastguard eight hours after ii-nissing— us coastguard eight hours after ii-nissing was— us coastguard eight hours after it missing was because it went missing was because saniasi— it went missing was because- contact—probably contact had broken, had probably haaksn—.— contact had broken, had probably haaksn—. on- contact had broken, had probably broken_. on well,- broken down before. on well, shas-s— broken down before. on well, that's - before. - broken down before. on well,. that's - before. - be that's happened before. it'll be hask— that's happened before. it'll be hask — that's happened before. it'll be hask .i— that's happened before. it'll be back soon. .i think- that's happened before. it'll be back soon. 2 back soon. and i think actually your interview with chris your interview with with chris parry absolutely parry there was absolutely illuminating was just illuminating because he was just i mean, clearly, i think he was quite furious, actually. yes. this has ever been allowed to kind go yeah people kind of. go ahead. yeah people who actually are experts in this field just thinking on field were just thinking what on earth is going on? why wasn't this submersible— earth is going on? why wasn'ti this submersible—a this submersible connected to a ship— this submersible connected to a ship an— this submersible connected to a ship an ihs— this submersible connected to a ship on the surface? but also shs— ship on the surface? but also the fast— ship on the surface? but also the fact that people were signing think it does

signing these? i think it does show a kind of grace thing about the human psyche, though, doesn't even though you doesn't it, that even though you are form says are signing this form which says you may die on this first you may die, die on this first page, three times you page, it says three times you may 3rd ways. you may die. and i think it says we're not regulated. it does. and yet people spend £250,000 people still spend £250,000 because think it's because you always think it's not to be you. yeah, it's not going to be you. yeah, it's a asninisa— not going to be you. yeah, it's a reminder that— not going to be you. yeah, it's a reminder that the— 20 “2 yeah, it's a reminder that the deep dark asnis— a reminder that the deep dark depths, thousands of feet down aissn — depths, thousands of feet down aissn .— depths, thousands of feet down aissn -aisnihs— depths, thousands of feet down aissn -aisnihs aa— depths, thousands of feet down deep , depths of the ocean deep, dark depths of the ocean is ans— deep, dark depths of the ocean is aa— deep, dark depths of the ocean is an ihs— deep, dark depths of the ocean is one of the unexplored, aiaaasa— is one of the unexplored, floored areas.— is one of the unexplored, floored areas. and i'm surprised inas— floored areas. and i'm surprised ihai ihis— floored areas. and i'm surprised that this kind— floored areas. and i'm surprised that this kind of— floored areas. and i'm surprised that this kind of thing i mean, iaak— that this kind of thing i mean, iaak-san— that this kind of thing i mean, iaak-san aa— that this kind of thing i mean, look sort of private look at the sort of private sauss— look at the sort of private- space, _missions. space, those kind of missions. in — space, those kind of missions. in _ihsss- space, those kind of missions. i'm _these kind - space, those kind of missions. i'm-these kind of. i'm surprised these kind of iaagsaiiss— i'm surprised these kind of tragedies. and— i'm surprised these kind of tragedies. and we don't know inas— tragedies. and we don't know ha is— tragedies. and we don't know that it'sltragedy.- tragedies. and we don't know that it's tragedy. let's that it's a tragedy. and let's all that it's a tragedy. and let's- aii—sansihing all hope and pray that something gaai— all hope and pray that something gaaai sanss— all hope and pray that something gaaai aus— all hope and pray that something good comes out of— all hope and pray that something good comes out of this. but it's suaaaising— good comes out of this. but it's surprising-kind- good comes out of this. but it's surprising-kind of- surprising that this kind of iisasisas— surprising that this kind of disasters don't— surprising that this kind of disasters don't more disasters don't happen more ansn— disasters don't happen more aaisn-ihsss— disasters don't happen more often these private often with these private sannaniass — often with these private companies. and maybe companies. yeah. yeah. and maybe it companies. yeah. yeah. and maybe ia- kni— companies. yeah. yeah. and maybe ia- ana ws— companies. yeah. yeah. and maybe ia- ana ws aan-i— companies. yeah. yeah. and maybe it- and we don't know.- it does. and we don't know. ihai-s— it does. and we don't know. ihai-s nigh.— . 2 and we don't know. that's right. because there's awa— that's right. because there's iwa—haws- that's right. because there's. two._have thought? two. who would have thought? two hiiiianaiass— two. who would have thought? two billionaires—boy- billionaires and a teenage boy on-submersible- billionaires and a teenage boy on submersible and a very on this submersible and a very accomplished.— on this submersible and a veryi accomplished._the accomplished. yeah mariner the iasnsh— accomplished. yeah mariner the iasnsh saiiaa— accomplished. yeah mariner the french sailor who's called mr iiianis— french sailor who's called mr titanic excited— french sailor who's called mr titanic excited about the iiianis— titanic excited about the titanic and— titanic excited about the titanic and you've got that kind of titanic and you've got that kind as nansy— titanic and you've got that kind as nansy ia— titanic and you've got that kind of money to _you - titanic and you've got that kind of money to 40- titanic and you've got that kind. of money to _you know, you

of money to burn. you know, you might well think just be might well think it'd just be amazing. you trust the amazing. and you trust the company paid this company and you paid all this money. think i would money. i don't think i would have it. it looks like have trusted it. it looks like no rescue plan,— have trusted it. it looks like no rescue plan, but- : . it looks like no rescue plan, but it's about kind— no rescue plan, but it's about kind of— no rescue plan, but it's about kind of taking— no rescue plan, but it's about kind of taking advantage , isn't kind of taking advantage, isn't it, kind of taking advantage, isn't in-weauhy— kind of taking advantage, isn't it, wealthy people with it, of very wealthy people with a—who — it, of very wealthy people with a—who want- it, of very wealthy people with a_who want to l it, of very wealthy people withi a_who want to be a huge passion who want to be ame— a huge passion who want to be a... to— a huge passion who want to be a... to sit— a huge passion who want to be able to sit around— a huge passion who want to be able to sit around at the next drinks— able to sit around at the next drinks party— able to sit around at the next drinks party and— able to sit around at the next drinks party and tell the story of the— drinks party and tell the story on nne ne— drinks party and tell the story of the one thing— drinks party and tell the story of the one thing that they've done — of the one thing that they've done enn— of the one thing that they've done that nobody else done done that nobody else has done une— done that nobody else has done like-definitely- done that nobody else has done like definitely played a like that is definitely played a part— like that is definitely played a pen in— like that is definitely played a pen in ene— like that is definitely played a part in this, hasn't it.7 and i enenenn— part in this, hasn't it.7 and i nnengnn yen— part in this, hasn't it.7 and i thought you made an interesting penn— thought you made an interesting point-about— thought you made an interesting point-enenn-yenn point earlier about when you talking— point earlier about when you were talking obviously were talking about obviously yen— were talking about obviously your-personn- were talking about obviously your personal experiences your own personal experiences nnn —nen,- your own personal experiences ween—new, nnl with yourjames and how, uh, eenneuy— with yourjames and how, uh, actually-ee- with yourjames and how, uh, actually-do have- with yourjames and how, uh, actually do have a actually women do have a different— actually women do have a different mind— actually women do have a different mind don't want different mind and i don't want to-90_ different mind and i don't want ne-ee newn— different mind and i don't want to-go down the- different mind and i don't want to go down the sexist to kind of go down the sexist gender— to kind of go down the sexist gender stereotypes or whatever, but gender stereotypes or whatever, nun—see - gender stereotypes or whatever, . nun—see but actually you don't see women deng— but actually you don't see women none—ven- but actually you don't see women doing—you really- doing these things. you really den-n. — doing these things. you really een-n. nu— doing these things. you really don't. all five— doing these things. you really don't. �*" gee. doing these things. you really don't. �*" nanl don't. all five occupants are men. yeah there is woman men. yeah there is one woman actually we actually in the video that we showed yesterday, which from a cbs channel show, there cbs american channel show, there was one woman who tried for 30 years. she and for years. she was a banker and for 30 years. she was a banker and for eo-ene— years. she was a banker and for eo-ene nee— years. she was a banker and for 30 _she tried to _ years. she was a banker and for so-she tried to get- p33”; she was a banker and for 30 she tried to get down 30 years she tried to get down and— 30 years she tried to get down and ene— 30 years she tried to get down and ene ene— 30 years she tried to get down and she did two— 30 years she tried to get down and she did two thwarted enennne— and she did two thwarted- attempts—company. attempts with this same company. and attempts with this same company. ann-end.— attempts with this same company. and-end,-achieved- attempts with this same company. and end, achieved it and in the end, she achieved it on and in the end, she achieved it en-nnne— and in the end, she achieved it en-nnne ne— and in the end, she achieved it on-third one. and- and in the end, she achieved it on third one. and she's on the third one. and she's crying— on the third one. and she's crying-ene— on the third one. and she's crying the submarine. and crying in the submarine. and ene-e— crying in the submarine. and ene-e-nne- crying in the submarine. and she's the footage and

she's they had the footage and ene-e— she's they had the footage and ene-e saying— she's they had the footage and ene-e eeynng ne— she's they had the footage and she's saying to the guy to necke— she's saying to the guy to stocks end — she's saying to the guy to stocks and the— she's saying to the guy to stocks and the guy that owns the place,— stocks and the guy that owns the pence—knew. i place, she's saying, you know, i leve— place, she's saying, you know, i love-n— place, she's saying, you know, i love-n leve— place, she's saying, you know, i love -i love you, - place, she's saying, you know, i love i love you, love you love you. i love you, i love you une— love you. i love you, i love you like enn— love you. i love you, i love you like that admiration that he'd enabled— like that admiration that he'd enabled-ne— like that admiration that he'd enabled .to fulfil- enabled her to fulfil this neenn— enabled her to fulfil this neenn nun— enabled her to fulfil this dream. but chances of it dream. but the chances of it going— dream. but the chances of it going-were— dream. but the chances of it going were clearly fairly going well were clearly fairly enn- — going well were clearly fairly slim. _should- going well were clearly fairly slim. should move going well were clearly fairly. slim. _should.move on slim. right. should we move on to slim. right. should we move on ne-eeeeen— slim. right. should we move on ne-eeeen ne— slim. right. should we move on to-closer to home- slim. right. should we move on to closer to home recess to issue closer to home recess an inevitable— to issue closer to home recess an inevitable sam— to issue closer to home recess an inevitable sam potentially. nneneen— an inevitable sam potentially. interest rate _ an inevitable sam potentially. interest rate rises— an inevitable sam potentially. interest rate rises . awful news interest rate rises. awful news for anybody— interest rate rises. awful news for anybody with— interest rate rises. awful news for anybody with a mortgage . for anybody with a mortgage. veen. — for anybody with a mortgage. veen. were— for anybody with a mortgage. yeah. in; ”c; f g for anybody with a mortgage. yeah. �*innzj; ”c; f g for anybody with a mortgage. yeah. g yeah. we're expecting the bank to put up interest rates in an hour and a half, less than an houn hour and a half, less than an hour. and it's small businesses, loans. it's them. yeah. and it could be as much as half a, which would be a real dramatic move from the bank. but yesterday we had various members of jeremy hunt's economic advisory council out and about. the treasury were making clear that speaking in their that they were speaking in their own as because they're own capacity as because they're all jp morgan and all employed in jp morgan and companies that . but they companies like that. but they were they were out and about on the airwaves saying, actually, it's the airwaves saying, actually, wsfime the airwaves saying, actually, it's time to force a recession to bring down inflation. i mean, it's a position we're it's a terrible position we're in a country. we want to in as a country. we want to innuen— in as a country. we want to new a— in as a country. we want to inflict a recession- in as a country. we want to inflict a recession on- " li. we want to inflict a recession on the country— inflict a recession on the country-ee- inflict a recession on the country-as if- inflict a recession on the

country as if people are country as if as if people are nee— country as if as if people are non snuggling— country as if as if people are not struggling enough already, evenlyou_ not struggling enough already, evenlyou don't— not struggling enough already, even you don't have a even if you don't have a nengege— even if you don't have a nengege-yenl even if you don't have a- mortgage _you probably mortgage because you probably can-n— mortgage because you probably een-n—neneine- mortgage because you probably can't housing ladder, can't get on the housing ladder, your— can't get on the housing ladder, yen-en— can't get on the housing ladder, your-of control,- your rents out of control, yen-e — your rents out of control, you've control you've got absolutely no control even-need— you've got absolutely no control over-food prices,- you've got absolutely no control over-food prices, which. you've got absolutely no control. over-food prices, which no over that. food prices, which no one paying for. this one can avoid paying for. this is luxury discretionary is not luxury discretionary items. the food price inflation is off the scale still. you know, inflation from know, inflation didn't fall from april at all. it's still april to may at all. it's still stubbornly sticky at 8.7. and underlying inflation is going to force a recession to make everybody feel absolutely give us a in step. the us a spring in our step. the only thing is that it's only good thing is that it's warm weather and people don't have to on their central have to put on their central heating reception. last night, talking—nee- heating reception. last night,j talking—mps talk talking to some tory mps talk aboun— talking to some tory mps talk about bleak.— talking to some tory mps talk about bleak, mood because about bleak, the mood because i end— about bleak, the mood because i end your— about bleak, the mood because i said your economic— about bleak, the mood because i said your economic policy isn't working. — said your economic policy isn't working. nne— said your economic policy isn't working. the tory— said your economic policy isn't working. the tory party is nennne— working. the tory party is nennng n— working. the tory party is nothing if it— working. the tory party is nothing if it doesn't have a reputation— nothing if it doesn't have a reputation for— nothing if it doesn't have a reputation for economic eennenenee— reputation for economic competence and credibility and if competence and credibility and n yen— competence and credibility and if you teen— competence and credibility and if you took an— competence and credibility and if you look at the— competence and credibility and if you look at the polls now, people— if you look at the polls now, people no— if you look at the polls now, people now trust— if you look at the polls now, people now trust labour more to eon— people now trust labour more to eon onl— people now trust labour more to eon out me— people now trust labour more to sort out the economy. yeah and ne— sort out the economy. yeah and me le— sort out the economy. yeah and lnle le gong— sort out the economy. yeah and lnle le golng lo— sort out the economy. yeah and this is going to make it much lean.— this is going to make it much worse. yeah. and- this is going to make it much worse. yeah. and i- this is going to make it much worse. “4:3?" ' worse. yeah. and i think obviously the hope had always been conservative is been for the conservative is that ahead the next election that ahead of the next election there will be they'd able to there will be they'd be able to do personal tax cuts do these personal tax cuts finally to being

finally get back to being the tax cutting they tax cutting party that they should be. and actually when you've just you've got inflation just stubbornly you stubbornly sticking at 8.7, you know, of dramatic dip. know, no sign of a dramatic dip. i tweeted yesterday or i actually tweeted yesterday or said tory mps as well said some tory mps as well yesterday, said this is the yesterday, i said this is the week party finally lost week the tory party finally lost any winning next any hope of winning the next general in my view. general election. in my view. and think actually i was and i think actually i was speaking a former cabinet speaking to a former cabinet minister yesterday who was pretty bank pretty furious about the bank of england actually felt that england and actually felt that the whole system, too late the whole system, it's too late to it now because we're to change it now because we're in the midst this crisis. but in the midst of this crisis. but actually the whole system is not fit that we should fit for purpose, that we should be worldwide people be looking worldwide for people who respond to who know to how respond to modern economic situations and not their job in the 90s, their job to keep a kerb on job is to keep a kerb on inflation, to it at 2% or inflation, to keep it at 2% or whatever. yeah. and they lnenolly— whatever. yeah. and they literally .failed - whatever. yeah. and they literally .failed .doj whatever. yeah. and they- literally .failed i do that literally have failed to do that nonln — literally have failed to do that nonln onen— literally have failed to do that month after month and it feels as month after month and it feels oe-leneny— month after month and it feels oe-leneny-onll month after month and it feels| as-jeremy-and his as though jeremy hunt and his team— as though jeremy hunt and his teen—well- as though jeremy hunt and his. team _well, something team are saying, well, something will team are saying, well, something nlll onene— team are saying, well, something will change, something will noppen — will change, something will happen- _goingi will change, something will. happen- _going to will change, something will- nonnen.—golng to lo happen. what are we going to do for me— happen. what are we going to do for lne yen— happen. what are we going to do for the year care?— happen. what are we going to do for the year care.7 that's what it for the year care.7 that's what n—ne - for the year care.7 that's whati n—ne they it feels like, doesn't it.7 they nlll— it feels like, doesn't it.7 they nlll-lney— it feels like, doesn't it.7 they will-they lose- it feels like, doesn't it.7 they will they lose their seats. will when they lose their seats. well, quite. sam. emma, thanks for well, quite. sam. emma, thanks non now.— well, quite. sam. emma, thanks for non-ll— well, quite. sam. emma, thanks for now. you'll be— well, quite. sam. emma, thanks for now. you'll be-in- kalli“ c. sam. emma, thanks for now. you'll be in just for now. you'll be back in just a moment, won't— for now. you'll be back in just a moment, won't you.7 we for now. you'll be back in just a moment, won't you? we are, of

neoenlng— a moment, won't you? we are, of course, reaching the— a moment, won't you? we are, of course, reaching the critical finel— course, reaching the critical nlnol-neeene- course, reaching the critical final-rescue for. course, reaching the critical final rescue for the final hours of rescue for the mono— final hours of rescue for the titans—we're. titans submersible. we're going toleneollng—

in it's 11:00 on thursday, the in it's11:00 on thursday, the 22nd of june. this is to the point on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. so coming up for the pierce and bev turner. so coming no for lne reel— pierce and bev turner. so coming up for the rest of— pierce and bev turner. so coming up for the rest of this— 37�* li;”l:i; 3“: c. so coming up for the rest of this morning, we've reached— up for the rest of this morning, we've reached the— up for the rest of this morning, we've reached the critical final nnonnenel— we've reached the critical final moments as time— we've reached the critical final moments as time runs out in the eeoen— moments as time runs out in the eeoen non— moments as time runs out in the eeoen for me— moments as time runs out in the search for the missing titan ennneneel— search for the missing titan submerged cable. the air supply

on nonl— submerged cable. the air supply on none le— submerged cable. the air supply on board is estimated to run out any— on board is estimated to run out any nlnnle— on board is estimated to run out any nlnnle non.— on board is estimated to run out any minute now. as— on board is estimated to run out any minute now. as soon as we get— any minute now. as soon as we gel on— any minute now. as soon as we gel on opene— any minute now. as soon as we get any update, will get any update, we will bring you— get any update, we will bring yon-onl- — get any update, we will bring yon-onn ann- get any update, we will bring you-out. and la - get any update, we will bring- you-out. and-a recession you that out. and is a recession inevitable now? i fear it is. the bank of england is going to hike interest we're hike interest rates. we're pretty sure for the 13th consecutive time we will bring you that live as it you that news live as it happens. midday. and we'll happens. at midday. and we'll return to-reporters- happens. at midday. and we'll return to .reporters on - p ::3 and we'll return to reporters on the return to our reporters on the ground— return to our reporters on the ground oonnl— return to our reporters on the ground around the country to see lonel— ground around the country to see not you— ground around the country to see no you lnlnl— ground around the country to see what you think about today's economic mood— what you think about today's economic mood .— what you think about today's economic mood . get involved as economic mood. get involved as well— economic mood. get involved as well no— economic mood. get involved as well this morning.— economic mood. get involved as well this morning. let us know your— well this morning. let us know your lnongnle— well this morning. let us know your thoughts on— well this morning. let us know your thoughts on email gb views at your thoughts on email gb views ol enteneeon — your thoughts on email gb views at gbnews.com is— your thoughts on email gb views at gbnews.com is the address to nneeeoee— at gbnews.com is the address to neeeoge nul— at gbnews.com is the address to message us. but first of all, nee— message us. but first of all, nene le— message us. but first of all, nene to your— message us. but first of all, here is your latest news with nlnonno— here is your latest news with rihanna jones— here is your latest news with rihanna jones .— here is your latest news with rihanna jones . thank you. good rihanna jones. thank you. good morning-— rihanna jones. thank you. good nonnlng. — rihanna jones. thank you. good nonnlng. ns— rihanna jones. thank you. good morning. it's11:01_ rihanna jones. thank you. good morning. it's 11:01 are- rihanna jones. thank you. good morning. . “ 0�* l3”l:i; ” morning. it's11:01 are your top stories from the newsroom the us coastguard says the search for the missing titanic submersible has been expanded as it enters its critical phase . this

its critical phase. this aircraft and ten ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while two remote atlantic, while two remote controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor under the surface. l'atalante carrying state of the art rov has arrived in the area, according to website, marine traffic.com british deep water salvage company magellan is en route to aid in the rescue. five people are inside the craft that lost contact on sunday. frank cohen, a retired commander from the royal australian navy, says the search operation is incredibly complicated. the only vehicle that can probably bring it to the surface is the us navy's deep salvage remotely operated vehicle that should be on scene on the site by now, but it needs to know where it's to go to. it's not really a search asset. ne— it's not really a search asset. to o— it's not really a search asset. to o recovery— it's not really a search asset. it's a recovery asset. so and lnen— it's a recovery asset. so and lnen n— it's a recovery asset. so and lnen n nlll— it's a recovery asset. so and then it will take— it's a recovery asset. so and then it will take time. perhaps two— then it will take time. perhaps no nonn— then it will take time. perhaps no none to— then it will take time. perhaps two hours to get— then it will take time. perhaps two hours to get down to 4000m. n..— two hours to get down to 4000m. lne nonl— two hours to get down to 4000m. lne tank of— two hours to get down to 4000m. the bank of england is set to

increase the— the bank of england is set to increase the interest rate for a ton— increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive _ increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive time. later as it 13th consecutive time. later as ll teles— 13th consecutive time. later as ll one to— 13th consecutive time. later as it tries to tackle ongoing price rises. the latest figures published yesterday showed inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to lower inflation. the foreign secretary, james cleverly, says the government's doing all it can to halve inflation in. the prime minister is inflation in. the prime minister to eonnlnel— inflation in. the prime minister is committed to— “ the prime minister is committed to bringing those lnleneel— is committed to bringing those interest rates— is committed to bringing those interest rates down, halve those lnleneel— interest rates down, halve those interest rates— interest rates down, halve those interest rates this— interest rates down, halve those interest rates this year to grow the interest rates this year to grow lne eoenonny— interest rates this year to grow lne eoenonny .— interest rates this year to grow the economy , to— interest rates this year to grow the economy , to reduce debt . the economy, to reduce debt. ente— the economy, to reduce debt. the le— the economy, to reduce debt. this is absolutely the economic toole— this is absolutely the economic tools on— this is absolutely the economic tools on me— this is absolutely the economic focus of the government and we nlll— focus of the government and we nlll ne— focus of the government and we nlll ne tonne— focus of the government and we will be taking action to drive lnoee— will be taking action to drive lnoee lnlnge— will be taking action to drive those things forward. and i lnlnl— those things forward. and i lnlnl ne— those things forward. and i think it's it— those things forward. and i think it's it is— those things forward. and i think it's it is the duty of government— think it's it is the duty of government .— think it's it is the duty of government . we are relentlessly government. we are relentlessly noeneeel— government. we are relentlessly focussed on— government. we are relentlessly focussed on that— government. we are relentlessly focussed on that amid rising lnnlonon. — focussed on that amid rising inflation. labour's- focussed on that amid rising inflation. ” f: l“ inflation. labour's called on banks to provide support to homeowners facing mortgage payment difficulties. the party claims their five point plan would allow borrowers to switch to interest only payments or

extend their mortgage terms. the government says lenders are already required to engage with struggling customers. shadow financial secretary james murray told gb news labour's plans should be taken into account. governments should follow our five point plan that we set out today, which would require lenders to allow borrowers to switch to interest only mortgages for a temporary time penod mortgages for a temporary time period or extend the length of their mortgage term. and it would also require- ” 33 and it would also require lenders to non— would also require lenders to non o— would also require lenders to wait a minimum— would also require lenders to wait a minimum of six months before— wait a minimum of six months before initiating— wait a minimum of six months before initiating any repossession proceedings . that's repossession proceedings. that's the repossession proceedings. that's lne llnl— repossession proceedings. that's lne llnl on— repossession proceedings. that's the kind of targeted help that we need— the kind of targeted help that we need . — the kind of targeted help that we need . defence- the kind of targeted help that we need . 'l�*il:i;�*"l:i;“li; ”$4.33 the kind of targeted help that we need . 'l�*il:i;�*"l:i;“li; ”6.33 iilzi“ we need. defence secretary ben wallace has ruled himself out of the race to become the next nato chief. when asked about leading the alliance, he told the economist he was withdrawing because of unsolved issues within the organisation . he also within the organisation. he also stated the us wants the current secretary—general, jens stoltenberg , to continue in the stoltenberg, to continue in the role. he's due to step down in

september . role. he's due to step down in september. king charles role. he's due to step down in september . king charles says the september. king charles says the windrush generation has made a significant difference to the uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent. uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent . 75 years profound and permanent. 75 years after the first crossing from the caribbean , the king will be the caribbean, the king will be among those at a service held at windsor castle later marking the anniversary . a £1 million anniversary. a £1 million fundraising effort is also underway to recover the anchor from the ship and put it on display. rmt empire windrush sank off the coast of algeria in 1954. the search for a firefighter who went missing while attempting a charity swim across the english channel has been called off. ian hughes was raising money for charities, including the british heart foundation and midlands air ambulance. the 42 year old was being accompanied by a support boat but went missing in french waters on tuesday . the ukrainian waters on tuesday. the ukrainian intelligence and security service has received information that russia's considering an

attack on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. president vladimir zelenskyy says ukraine will share all available information with their global partners. he warns radiation action knows no national borders and it hits its hits are only determined by the direction of the wind. mr zelenskyy says an incident like the kakhovka dam will not be repeated and the world has been warned . and tech world has been warned. and tech billionaire elon musk is picking a fight with mark zuckerberg . a fight with mark zuckerberg. and guess what? the meta boss is up for it. mr musk posted on twitter that he was keen for a cage fight with mr zuckerberg. the fellow tech billionaire then replied, posting a screenshot of the tweet on instagram . of the tweet on instagram. of course, with the caption, send me location. twitter's ceo responded. vegas octagon . so responded. vegas octagon. so they're going big. this is gb news bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back over to andrew and .

over to andrew and. bev well, it's with a heavy heart, we have to say. time does appear to te— we have to say. time does appear to be nwnnlng— we have to say. time does appear to be running out— we have to say. time does appear to be running out as— time does appear to be running out as experts, lnelenle— to be running out as experts, insights from _ to be running out as experts, insights from across the world wow— insights from across the world wow ogolnel— insights from across the world work against the— insights from across the world work against the clock to try to fine— work against the clock to try to fine one— work against the clock to try to find and rescue— work against the clock to try to find and rescue the five men nonet— find and rescue the five men topped on— find and rescue the five men trapped on board the titan submersible.— trapped on board the titan submersible. however we heard submersible. however as we heard eonllen— submersible. however as we heard earlier-admiral- submersible. however as we heard earlier admiral chris earlier from rear admiral chris nonw— earlier from rear admiral chris new. ne— earlier from rear admiral chris parry, he thinks— earlier from rear admiral chris parry, he thinks time has already— parry, he thinks time has already-out. - parry, he thinks time hasi already-out. .after parry, he thinks time has- already-out. .after losing already run out. so after losing contact on sunday, the 96 hours of oxygen supporting the five men is expected to run out close to midday, just less than an houn to midday, just less than an hour. our next guest has his own extraordinary story of exploring the titanic wreck. a former abc news science correspondent who was reporter to visit news science correspondent who waswreck reporter to visit news science correspondent who waswreck of reporter to visit news science correspondent who waswreck of the )rter to visit news science correspondent who waswreck of the titanic visit news science correspondent who waswreck of the titanic back in the wreck of the titanic back in 2000. and he'sjoining us all 2000. and he's joining us all we— 2000. and he's joining us all we wow— 2000. and he's joining us all lne wow non— $7000 and he's joining us all the way from dallas in texas. ano— the way from dallas in texas. ann ne— the way from dallas in texas. ann ne le— the way from dallas in texas. ann ne to on — the way from dallas in texas. and he is dr. michael jian. wlenoel.— and he is dr. michael jian. michael, good— and he is dr. michael jian. michael, good morning. you it o netw— michael, good morning. you it was a pretty extraordinary eoentoenee— was a pretty extraordinary experience for— was a pretty extraordinary experience for you when you went deep— experience for you when you went deep down — experience for you when you went deep town to — experience for you when you went deep down to the— experience for you when you went deep down to the titanic because you to—

deep down to the titanic because you to gol— deep down to the titanic because you to got two— deep down to the titanic because you to got into deep difficulties- you to got into deep difficulties .- you to got into deep difficulties . yes. and difficulties. yes. and obviously, - difficulties. yes. and obviously, this morning i feel a special— obviously, this morning i feel a special kinship— obviously, this morning i feel a special kinship for these five noon— special kinship for these five poor eons-l — special kinship for these five poor souls. and— special kinship for these five poor souls. ' “: c special kinship for these five poor souls. ' “: . : l.. poor souls. and it's difficult for me to recall the experience. but yes, it was back in 2000 and the dive went very well , took the dive went very well, took about 2.5 hours to go down. we toured the bow, had a moment of prayer for the people who lost their lives down there. and then their lives down there. and then the problem began when we left the problem began when we left the bow and headed towards the stern. you'll recall the titanic broke into two pieces. the bow went straight down the stern bit . a somersault landed on its back, exposed the propeller. so as we approached the stern, my attention was caught by this very shiny, large propeller. but then at the same time, i sensed that our sub was accelerating , that our sub was accelerating, which seemed strange to me. we should be decelerating and i later found out that we got caughtin later found out that we got caught in a very strong underwater current that do exist down there , by the way. and we down there, by the way. and we were slammed into the blades of

the propeller, which you see there. propeller is much there. this propeller is much larger than our small three man sub. so the collision and sub. and so the collision and then huge chunks of the titanic started falling down on us. and we knew right then and there that we were in very serious trouble that this wasn't some minor oopsie and everything fell silent inside the sub . so. so silent inside the sub. so. so you were effectively- :i so. so you were effectively trapped. were — you were effectively trapped. were won — you were effectively trapped. were you behind the propeller? ween— were you behind the propeller? ween — were you behind the propeller? veon wee.— were you behind the propeller? yeah yes. somehow- were you behind the propeller? yeah “cit? were you behind the propeller? yeah /:i;; gi. were you behind the propeller? yeah /:i;; gin. : yeah yes. somehow we got trapped behind the blades between the inverted poop deck and the blades of the propeller. and our pilot was a former mig pilot. this was a russian sub that i was on, was struggling to get us out with no success. so i went through a series of emotions . through a series of emotions. first i tried as a scientist. i tried to figure out how we could possibly get out soon. you know , just concluded that there was no way to get out. and then felt an enormous sadness and then ultimately a sense of peace

before i discovered that victor, our pilot, had managed to extricate us after the better part of an hour. it seemed like an eternity down there, but i was ready to give up my life and join the people who who had lost their lives down there. it was pretty extraordinary on pretty extraordinary just on that point, you say you you've reached sense of reached a point, a sense of peace. how do you become numb, neelenel— peace. how do you become numb, neelgnel lo— peace. how do you become numb, resigned to .fact_ peace. how do you become numb, resigned to-fact that- f how do you become numb, resigned to fact that that resigned to the fact that that woeow-w— resigned to the fact that that woe-wow-golnel resigned to the fact that that| woe-wow-golng lo resigned to the fact that that. was-you-going to ? resigned to the fact that that- was-you-going to ? it was where you were going to? it ell— was where you were going to? it all going— was where you were going to? it oll golng lo— was where you were going to? it was all going to end? yzil.. was where you were going to? it was all going to end? 4i. was all going to end? you know, andrew.— was all going to end? you know, andrew, it's interesting. and as a i try to just stick a scientist, i try to just stick to the to the facts . it's to the stick to the facts. it's difficult for me to understand why this why i transitioned from this really heavy sense of sadness , really heavy sense of sadness, as if the entire weight of the atlantic ocean had landed on my shoulders to suddenly just feeling a sense of peace. i don't know how else to describe it. it's henri paul tionable sense of peace. but there it is. and. and and i thought of my wife would never see it. we were newlyweds . it was actually our newlyweds. it was actually our wedding anniversary when i was down there september. and and i just. just just then suddenly

felt peace and was ready to let go of my life and then was given a second chance at life. and it seems as though these four, five, four people are not going to be given that chance at life and that just breaks my heart because i know what they've gone through. michael, you were down lnene— through. michael, you were down lnene tn— through. michael, you were down lnene ln moo.— through. michael, you were down there in 2000, so— through. michael, you were down there in 2000, so 23— 3 michael, you were down there in 2000, so 23 years ago. now— there in 2000, so 23 years ago. how old— there in 2000, so 23 years ago. now all wow— there in 2000, so 23 years ago. how did your vessel compare to the how did your vessel compare to we one— how did your vessel compare to we wol— how did your vessel compare to the one that we're— how did your vessel compare to the one that we're now talking about.— the one that we're now talking about. n..— the one that we're now talking about, the titan— the one that we're now talking about, the titan ? �*flo�*lzi;.. about, the titan? well, bev, night— about, the titan? well, bev, night and day , because the night and day, because the vesseli night and day, because the vessel i was on, the mir two was originally designed as a scientific research vessel , scientific research vessel, teardrop shaped, typical, no frills . it had been teardrop shaped, typical, no frills. it had been time teardrop shaped, typical, no frills . it had been time tested frills. it had been time tested over and over again. it was a serious vessel created by serious vessel created by serious minded people . and by serious minded people. and by contrast, this titan, unfortunately, was designed primarily for tourism . there are primarily for tourism. there are reports that it wasn't really quite up to snuff. we'll have to wait to see about that. there will be time enough if we can never recover this vessel, we may never know what went wrong.

keep that it took 73 keep in mind that it took 73 years, 73 years for us to discover the wreck of the titanic. and it's huge . what are titanic. and it's huge. what are the odds that we will ever find this tiny craft which is like a mosquito in size by comparison ? mosquito in size by comparison? if we cannot locate it, locate it, so we may never know what went wrong, but certainly we need to stop, pause all trips to the titanic. i believe, and figure out what kind of restrictions should we place. this is not a joy ride. this is a serious business. the ocean is a serious business. the ocean is a merciless beast. really. it's ready to swallow you up and people who think of this as well, let's just go on a joy ride or a tourism. and i'm not suggesting that the people down there had that, but many people i encounter have that impression. it's a very serious business. it's also not just the wreck of a ship. it's a it's sacred ground. people lost their lives down there . and that hit lives down there. and that hit me like a sledgehammer between

the eyes. i'll never forget. that's just a just such a powerful experience being down there and being so close to the titanic where men, women and children can breathe their last. and this was their last resting place. we should treat it with respect. michael, you sound quite emotional. just reliving all the — quite emotional. just reliving all the ann— quite emotional. just reliving all this. and i— quite emotional. just reliving all this. and i wonder,- :. just reliving all this. and i wonder, do you lnlnl— all this. and i wonder, do you think actually— all this. and i wonder, do you think actually that bearing in nlnel— think actually that bearing in nlnl. oe— think actually that bearing in nlnl. oe wow— think actually that bearing in mind, as you say, it is the last neenne— mind, as you say, it is the last neenng place— mind, as you say, it is the last resting place of— mind, as you say, it is the last resting place of 1500 souls wnoee— resting place of 1500 souls whose bodies— resting place of 1500 souls whose bodies were never found, is whose bodies were never found, le n— whose bodies were never found, le ll oppnowlole— whose bodies were never found, is it appropriate for people to be long— is it appropriate for people to be doing effectively? you were lnene— be doing effectively? you were lnene on— be doing effectively? you were lnene on o— be doing effectively? you were there on a scientific mission. the— there on a scientific mission. lne mon— there on a scientific mission. the titan was— there on a scientific mission. the titan was people going for a well— the titan was people going for a lnnll e— the titan was people going for a lnnll eveon— the titan was people going for a lnnll eweon — the titan was people going for a thrill .7 yeah i— the titan was people going for a thrill .7 yeah i don't— the titan was people going for a thrill ? yeah 93“ . thrill? yeah i don't want to seem judgemental. andrew really. i'm trying to be very respectful, but the fact is that there's something about us humans that is unique. we have this kind of non—darwinian spirit that drives us to give up our sense of survival, to explore worlds beyond the

darwinian jungle. there's no other way to put it. i'm in a very philosophical mood this morning, a very emotional . and i morning, a very emotional. and i think it's the it's that human spirit that drives us to go to the bottom of the ocean or the top of a mountain or to explore worlds within and beyond our solar system. very solar system. it's a very mysterious thing that science alone but there alone cannot explain. but there it . so today fear that we it is. so today i fear that we will be mourning the loss of life , but we will also be life, but we will also be celebrating this mysterious, unique , vexing human spirit that unique, vexing human spirit that causes us to do these things. and i don't know how to come down. i have such mixed feelings about it all. but us andrew and bev. i am just having a hard time holding it together because i'm having to relive this all over again for the last 72 hours. it'sjust i've over again for the last 72 hours. it's just i've been just hoping when i went to bed last night, hoping that we could have good news this morning, but it doesn't seem that way. it takes about 2.5 hours just to even get down there. i wear my what's been i've been wondering about is whether for the people on

board, whether the passengers would to pens and would have access to pens and paper to write last notes to their loved ones. do they have well— their loved ones. do they have lneln nonle— their loved ones. do they have their mobile phones— ” : do they have their mobile phones down there not— their mobile phones down there not new— their mobile phones down there that they would _ their mobile phones down there that they would writing that they would be writing enolle— that they would be writing emails-might- that they would be writing emails might get discovered emails that might get discovered lnew— emails that might get discovered once they leave— emails that might get discovered once they leave for— emails that might get discovered once they leave for you? having been— once they leave for you? having been tn— once they leave for you? having been ln wol— once they leave for you? having been in that situation, do you lnlnl— been in that situation, do you lnlnl wow— been in that situation, do you think you would— been in that situation, do you think you would have the mindset to think you would have the mindset lo wont— think you would have the mindset lo wont to— think you would have the mindset to want to communicate to the people— to want to communicate to the people you— to want to communicate to the people you went— to want to communicate to the people you might be leaving penne— people you might be leaving penlnl llle— people you might be leaving behind like that? wow that's a really— behind like that? wow that's a really interesting— behind like that? wow that's a really interesting question. now.— really interesting question. now. l— really interesting question. now. l own-l— really interesting question. bev. i didn't have- really interesting question. bev. i didn't have my- really interesting question. bev. i didn't have my cell phone electromagnet waves don't communicate in seawater. it's salty . you communicate by salty. you communicate by hydrophone acoustically. it's akin to tin cans connected by a string . but it is possible that string. but it is possible that these folks who are on a tourist mission were allowed to bring their cell phones to take pictures and so forth. and if we ever recover the ship, then it's possible that we could have the benefit of seeing their final thoughts. i can't. especially the father and the son. yeah, i have a young son and it's really

hard to imagine how that must have been like. i went through it. i know what it feels like to be buried alive in a tin can at the bottom of the atlantic ocean. it's a terrifying, terrifying thing. michael just finally.— terrifying thing. michael just finally, there— terrifying thing. michael just finally, there is— terrifying thing. michael just finally, there is this- “lg “lg michael just finally, there is this terrible nonw— finally, there is this terrible lnonw .— finally, there is this terrible wonw . lent— finally, there is this terrible irony , isn't there, that this irony, isn't there, that this we— irony, isn't there, that this we noel— irony, isn't there, that this the most the— irony, isn't there, that this the most the world's most famous enlpwneele— the most the world's most famous enlpwneele n— the most the world's most famous shipwreck? it appears it's elolnlne— shipwreck? it appears it's claiming more- shipwreck? it appears it's claiming more lives 110, 12 ween— claiming more lives 110, 12 ween laten— claiming more lives 110, 12 ween lolen. — claiming more lives 110, 12 years later. i— claiming more lives 110, 12 years later . claiming more lives 110, 12 years later. “lg years later. i was thinking exactly the same thing, andrew. these waters in the north atlantic are so treacherous when you get out there. we left from halifax , nova scotia, and when halifax, nova scotia, and when you get out to those waters, i remember the night before i was going to dive, i wanted a sense of what what the victims of the titanic had seen. what was the last thing they had seen? what did they experience before they went so i was all went down? and so i was all alone. to the alone. i went up to the captain's deck. everybody else was asleep. and i just looked out over the ocean. i leaned against the rail and i had two impressions. first of all, this

ocean is restless. the ocean is just constantly churning, moving. it just doesn't quit. and it's just ready to swallow you up. i had the impression of it being just a giant beast. and then the second thing i remember then the second thing i remember the i'll never forget is that i did a 360 degree look at the ocean and there was just nothing , just the horizon . there's just , just the horizon. there's just nothing. it's 360 degrees of nothingness in the midst of this restless monster. and so i have just . the restless monster. and so i have just. the memories of something that i wish i could forget. and i'm just hoping and praying that these five souls on board were able to experience even a semblance of peace of the kind of peace that i was able to benefit from. we'll never know. well, wonderful to talk to you one— well, wonderful to talk to you one lnonl— well, wonderful to talk to you one lnonl wow— well, wonderful to talk to you and thank you for— well, wonderful to talk to you and thank you for sharing that win— and thank you for sharing that win — and thank you for sharing that with us. that's— and thank you for sharing that with us. that's dr. michael non.— with us. that's dr. michael ion. wno— with us. that's dr. michael jian, who was— with us. that's dr. michael jian, who was had his own very close— jian, who was had his own very close ween— jian, who was had his own very close brush with— jian, who was had his own very

close brush with death by the mono— close brush with death by the titanic back— close brush with death by the titanic back in— close brush with death by the titanic back in 2000. he still inle— titanic back in 2000. he still nnle n— titanic back in 2000. he still nnle n wen— titanic back in 2000. he still finds it very moving to talk about. — finds it very moving to talk about. ween— finds it very moving to talk about. yeah and he came to a telne— about. yeah and he came to a lens of— about. yeah and he came to a terms of peace.— about. yeah and he came to a terms of peace. yeah he'd oeeeplel— terms of peace. yeah he'd oeeeplel n.— terms of peace. yeah he'd accepted it. yeah. not sure i could. — accepted it. yeah. not sure i could. l— accepted it. yeah. not sure i could. i suppose- accepted it. yeah. not sure i could. . could. i suppose it's that inevitability at that point. it's the idea that you can't you can do nothing. no. i imagine , can do nothing. no. i imagine, you know, there would be panic at some point. there would be distress, desperation . and then, distress, desperation. and then, as you said, you get to the point where you think, i can do no more. yeah, he clearly was no fan no more. yeah, he clearly was no ton of— no more. yeah, he clearly was no ton on we— no more. yeah, he clearly was no fan of the titan— i“l”l:i; yeah, he clearly was no fan of the titan submersible. well— fan of the titan submersible. we-ll — fan of the titan submersible. we'll see. and— fan of the titan submersible. we'll see. and i— fan of the titan submersible. we'll see. and i think it raises really— we'll see. and i think it raises really interesting— we'll see. and i think it raises really interesting questions about— really interesting questions about-tourist- really interesting questions about tourist trips, about these tourist trips, wnelnen— about these tourist trips, whether it's _ about these tourist trips, whether it's a- about these tourist trips, whether it's a trip to the moon or whether it's a trip to the moon on o nlp— whether it's a trip to the moon on o nlp lo— whether it's a trip to the moon or a trip to the— whether it's a trip to the moon or a trip to the bottom of the le n— or a trip to the bottom of the ocean. is it all— or a trip to the bottom of the ocean. is it all too- or a trip to the bottom of the ocean. is it all too much now? were— ocean. is it all too much now? were eopeenne— ocean. is it all too much now? we're expecting we will get a leelelon— we're expecting we will get a leelelon on— we're expecting we will get a decision on _rates- we're expecting we will get a decision on rates at decision on interest rates at middav-_ decision on interest rates at nlllow we— decision on interest rates at midday. we will— decision on interest rates at midday. we will bring to midday. we will bring it live to you— midday. we will bring it live to you from — midday. we will bring it live to you from .nonl— midday. we will bring it live to you from .bank of- midday. we will bring it live to you from bank of england, you from the bank of england, our you from the bank of england, wen— you from the bank of england, our very own liam _ you from the bank of england, our very own liam halligan is an eeononnlee-lne- our very own liam halligan is an economic-there. it- economic editor is there. it wil— economic editor is there. it wlllllne— economic editor is there. it will-the 13th— economic editor is there. it will the 13th consecutive will be the 13th consecutive nee— will be the 13th consecutive rise .inflation_ rise as inflation stays stubbornly- rise as inflation stays stubbornly at 8.7. so let's epeol— stubbornly at 8.7. so let's speak to— stubbornly at 8.7. so let's speak to conservative mp sir john— speak to conservative mp sir john redwood— speak to conservative mp sir john redwood now to get a neoenon— john redwood now to get a reaction ahead— john redwood now to get a reaction ahead of this

announcement. .: reaction ahead of this- announcement. good morning, reaction ahead of this— announcement. good morning, sir. john. it's the news that nobody wanted and it's going to hit people incredibly hard and might just cost the conservatives the next election . well, it's very next election. well, it's very pol— next election. well, it's very pol newe— next election. well, it's very pol non— “link. f l“ well, it's very bad news for mortgage holders. ano— bad news for mortgage holders. ann l— bad news for mortgage holders. ann l lo— bad news for mortgage holders. ann l to lnlnl— bad news for mortgage holders. and i do think the— bad news for mortgage holders. and i do think the bank- bad news for mortgage holders. and i do think the bank needs to improve kyiv what it does and change its approach. and i think the government needs to work with the bank on a better and more rounded counter—inflation strategy very crucial to get those price rises back under control, but also crucial not to have a big recession to do so . have a big recession to do so. you were an mp under margaret lnolenen-e— you were an mp under margaret thatcher's regime.— you were an mp under margaret thatcher's regime. of course, lnleneel— thatcher's regime. of course, interest rates— thatcher's regime. of course, interest rates went up to 16% at wol— interest rates went up to 16% at we polnl. — interest rates went up to 16% at that point. people— interest rates went up to 16% at that point. people lost their noee— that point. people lost their noee were— that point. people lost their homes. we're living in very llnenenl— homes. we're living in very different times,— homes. we're living in very different times, particularly young— different times, particularly young homeowners have got used to lneee— young homeowners have got used to lneee zero— young homeowners have got used to these zero 1%_ young homeowners have got used to these zero 1% interest rates. tiny.— to these zero 1% interest rates. nlnw. tiny— to these zero 1% interest rates. tiny, tiny payback— to these zero 1% interest rates. tiny, tiny payback on their nongooee— tiny, tiny payback on their nongopee .— tiny, tiny payback on their mortgages. this is tiny, tiny payback on their mortgages . this is going to tiny, tiny payback on their mortgages. this is going to hit wol— mortgages. this is going to hit that generation— mortgages. this is going to hit that generation particular really— that generation particular neollw nonl— that generation particular really hard. it— that generation particular really hard. it feels very ewel — really hard. it feels very ewel on. — really hard. it feels very cruel. oh, well, it hits people wno— cruel. oh, well, it hits people wno one— cruel. oh, well, it hits people who are on a two— cruel. oh, well, it hits people who are on a two year or a five

ween— who are on a two year or a five year nonooee— who are on a two year or a five year mortgage that— who are on a two year or a five year mortgage that comes due for round— year mortgage that comes due for nolllne — year mortgage that comes due for rolling over. and— year mortgage that comes due for rolling over. and yes,- year mortgage that comes due for rolling over. ' “: «tilt? year mortgage that comes due for rolling over. “: «tilt? ”ll. rolling over. and yes, i feel very sorry for them. and they will get a big shock. it of course, also, i trust , will mean course, also, i trust, will mean higher rates of interest for all those people with savings. so there will be some people who will will do rather better out of the really bad news for those who are borrowing. but my criticism is that the bank was wrong to keep interest rates as low as it did to and buy all those bonds up at ever crazier prices. when we were well into recovery from lockdown , the 150 recovery from lockdown, the 150 bid in extra, they did was excessive at the time i said i thought it was likely to be inflation free. i think there's now a grave danger of the bank lurches too far the other way. and i'm calling on them today to say that they're not going to go on selling these bonds at ever diminishing ever diminishing prices and ever larger losses . the taxpayer has larger losses. the taxpayer has to pay all those losses . there's to pay all those losses. there's no to incur all those no need to incur all those losses by market at these losses by market sales at these very depressed levels. and the more bonds they sell, the worse

the mortgage misery is going to be. so banks stop the mortgage misery to the extent that you can buy, do not sell all those bonds at very cheap prices . sir bonds at very cheap prices. sir john, the bank has an a- john, the bank has an a target of john, the bank has an a target on lnflonon— john, the bank has an a target of inflation of— john, the bank has an a target of inflation of 2. _ john, the bank has an a target of inflation of 2. it's currently— of inflation of 2. it's currently nearly 9. it's missed lne— currently nearly 9. it's missed lne largel— currently nearly 9. it's missed lne target for— currently nearly 9. it's missed the target for month after month onen— the target for month after month often nonn— the target for month after month after month. we— the target for month after month after month. we know there's been— after month. we know there's been all— after month. we know there's been all sorts— after month. we know there's been all sorts of— after month. we know there's been all sorts of extenuating world— been all sorts of extenuating world circumstances. but if this ln lne— world circumstances. but if this were in the-sector,- were in the private sector, i wooll— were in the private sector, i would ewooeel— were in the private sector, i would suggest that andrew notew— would suggest that andrew bailey, executive , bailey, the chief executive, wooll— bailey, the chief executive, would be — bailey, the chief executive, would be out— bailey, the chief executive, would be out on his ear. why did nonl— would be out on his ear. why did bonk-england— would be out on his ear. why did bank england governors keep bank of england governors keep lneln— bank of england governors keep lneln tole— bank of england governors keep their jobs despite— bank of england governors keep theirjobs despite mistake after nlelole— theirjobs despite mistake after mistake after— theirjobs despite mistake after mistake after mistake ? �*flo�*lzi;.. mistake after mistake? well, it's mistake after mistake? well, we a— mistake after mistake? well, it's a commonly— mistake after mistake? well, it's a commonly held idea by politicians and a lot in the media that the bank of england is independent and therefore it's quite wrong for governments to intrude and or to make any changes. to intrude and or to make any changes . but this, of course, is changes. but this, of course, is a complete misunderstanding of the constitutional position . the the constitutional position. the only truly independent power the bank of england has is the power to set bank rates and i don't wish to take that away from

them. i'm glad they themselves admit they've made a bad series of errors over it and they are now having a review into their practise and why their economic models and forecasts are so wrong. the sooner they get wrong. and the sooner they get economic that better economic models that work better and judges accounts that and make judges accounts that are better , the sooner the are better, the sooner the country will be better off . but country will be better off. but the rest of the bank is not independent. the buying, independent. the bond buying, for , oil, every penny for example, oil, every penny that they spend on buying up bonds at crazy prices had to be approved in advance by the chancellor of the exchequer for the general program of buying and chancellor of the and the chancellor of the exchequer on behalf of taxpayers , indemnified the bank against all and indeed the bank. all losses and indeed the bank. i think on its website says that it acted as an agent of the treasury. it's in area treasury. so it's in that area where they expanded their balance sheet too and balance sheet too much and they're in of they're now in danger of contracting it too that contracting it too much. that i think the government has to have words with the governor and say, are you really sure this a are you really sure this is a good to be you were good thing to be doing? you were wrong time and we are wrong last time and we are jointly responsible for this policy. john,

jointly responsible for this policy . john, you you were a policy. john, you you were a eate— policy. john, you you were a eone pon— policy. john, you you were a eone pen on— policy. john, you you were a safe pair of hands- l john, you you were a safe pair of hands is how it feele— safe pair of hands is how it neele fell— safe pair of hands is how it feels felt to— safe pair of hands is how it feels felt to the— safe pair of hands is how it feels felt to the nation. i lnlnl— feels felt to the nation. i lnlnl n— feels felt to the nation. i think if you— feels felt to the nation. i think if you if— feels felt to the nation. i think if you if i can say that wnen— think if you if i can say that wnen wow— think if you if i can say that when you were— think if you if i can say that when you were the chancellor wnol— when you were the chancellor wnol wooll— when you were the chancellor what would you _ when you were the chancellor what would you do now if you were in jeremy— what would you do now if you were in jeremy hunt's position no— were in jeremy hunt's position wnen— were in jeremy hunt's position now? what would _ were in jeremy hunt's position now? what would you be doing to nelp— now? what would you be doing to help-corporation- now? what would you be doing to help corporation vat help people? corporation tax vat ente— help people? corporation tax vat ewe .— help people? corporation tax vat ewe . — help people? corporation tax vat ewe . well.— help people? corporation tax vat cuts . well, there's— help people? corporation tax vat cuts . well, there's so- help people? corporation tax vat cuts . cuts. well, there's so much i would be doing and i've been advising publicly the chancellor to do more things . first thing i to do more things. first thing i would say is, you shouldn't make all of the adjustment be on the demand side. you shouldn't say the only way out of this is to take money away from people, particularly mortgage particularly from mortgage holders, so they can't spend so that prices fall. you that then prices fall. you should do more on the supply side. there are shortages across the which are fuelling a the board, which are fuelling a lot of these rises and we lot of these price rises and we don't make enough and grow enough produce enough at enough and produce enough at home. get on with the domestic energy, those and gas energy, get those oil and gas fields , pumping oil gas from fields, pumping oil and gas from the north sea and you then have a bonanza of tax revenues which would start to bring the deficit

down. and you will provide some pressure against ever surging price rises . let us grow more price rises. let us grow more food instead of spending all our farming grants on telling farmers not to farm. with all these sums of money for wilding and for letting wildflowers grow where corn used to . let's go where corn used to. let's go back to the old fashioned idea that the subsidies should be used to get us to grow more food. people would love to buy more grown food, and if more british grown food, and if we had more food around with lower transport costs, that that would inflation would help on the inflation front. so why are they doing now— front. so why are they doing wow—on- front. so why are they doing. that?_off with a that? putting people off with a 5% vat on domestic fuel ? so why 5% vat on domestic fuel? so why why are none of those— sift? . ' l“ : ll ..l:i;.?’ so why why are none of those things happening?— why are none of those things happening? john, why i'm sorry to happening? john, why i'm sorry lo—neollwl to interrupt you, but i really went— to interrupt you, but i really wont to— to interrupt you, but i really want to know— to interrupt you, but i really want to know why number 10 and nonet— want to know why number 10 and number-newne- want to know why number 10 and number making any of number 11 are not making any of woe— number 11 are not making any of lnoee oneneee— number 11 are not making any of those changes-well,- number 11 are not making any of those changes �*flo�*lzi;.. those changes. well, you must ask them . i mean, i'm ask them. i mean, i'm i'm talking to them through you and through my website. and when i make speeches in parliament, a lot of mps on the conservative side certainly agree with me. they think a big expansion in our supply capacity would be

great. they think taxing energy to the extent that we do for both business and individuals is quite the wrong thing to do when quite the wrong thing to do when quite of the original quite a bit of the original price rises came from the energy side. we cheaper energy so side. we need cheaper energy so that we can make things in britain rather than having to import them from countries that burn in their burn the energy in their countries, for some countries, which for some strange reason doesn't seem to worry people on co2 front . worry people on the co2 front. all right. that's sirjohn all right. that's sir john redwood— all right. that's sir john redwood with- all right. that's sir john redwood with some pretty straightforward solutions. lnonle— straightforward solutions. lnonle eo— straightforward solutions. thanks so much forjoining us. wnen— thanks so much forjoining us. wnen l— thanks so much forjoining us. wnen l loel— thanks so much forjoining us. when i last saw— thanks so much forjoining us. when i last saw liz truss, i enl— when i last saw liz truss, i eoll wnen— when i last saw liz truss, i said when you— when i last saw liz truss, i said when you sacked your chancellor— said when you sacked your chancellor kwasi kwarteng, why own-l— chancellor kwasi kwarteng, why llln-l wow— chancellor kwasi kwarteng, why llln-l you put— chancellor kwasi kwarteng, why didn't you put jeremy hunt in were.— didn't you put jeremy hunt in were wno-e— didn't you put jeremy hunt in there, who's-no- didn't you put jeremy hunt in there, who's no economic there, who's got no economic background— there, who's got no economic background-why- there, who's got no economic background why didn't you background to. why didn't you owe— background to. why didn't you ewe-top— background to. why didn't you owe-top john- background to. why didn't you give job john redwood? give the to job john redwood? wow— give the to job john redwood? wow-ene— give the to job john redwood? wow-ene enl— give the to job john redwood? you-she said it— give the to job john redwood? you she said it wouldn't you say she said it wouldn't newe— you say she said it wouldn't have calmed— you say she said it wouldn't have calmed the— you say she said it wouldn't have calmed the markets. well, jeremy— have calmed the markets. well, jeremy nonl— have calmed the markets. well, jeremy hunt hasn't calmed the melee.— jeremy hunt hasn't calmed the nonlele. noe— jeremy hunt hasn't calmed the markets, has he? _ jeremy hunt hasn't calmed the markets, has he? : “ . markets, has he? wouldn't have kept the globalists happy who want none want them in there because none of this is in britain's interest at the moment. from

monday to thursday from 9 pm. to n— monday to thursday from 9 pm. to n pn. — monday to thursday from 9 pm. to n pm. on— monday to thursday from 9 pm. loll pm. on on— monday to thursday from 9 pm. to 11 pm. on gb news, britain's news . channel _ to 11 pm. on gb news, britain's news . channel it's- to 11 pm. on gb news, britain's news . channel . “ii/“8 4i. ”l news. channel it's 1128. you're with andrew pierce and bev turner on gb news. we're going to go straight to the bank of england where our very own liam halligan is there because we're getting that interest rate rise announcement dot of announcement on the dot of midday. liam just very quickly, andrew and bev, i know you've got a lot to get through before we get to the top of the hour, 12 noon, when from the bank of england, the building behind me, we to hear the latest we are going to hear the latest interest rate decision. we're expecting a rise from - :ill l“ we're expecting a rise from 4.5% to one.— expecting a rise from 4.5% to one. poeelply— expecting a rise from 4.5% to 4.75, possibly even to 5. it

wil— 4.75, possibly even to 5. it wlll pe— 4.75, possibly even to 5. it wlll be we— 4.75, possibly even to 5. it will be the 13th - 4.75, possibly even to 5. it will be the 13th interest rate nee— will be the 13th interest rate tn— will be the 13th interest rate ln o— will be the 13th interest rate rise in a row.— will be the 13th interest rate rise in a row. why is the bank of england— rise in a row. why is the bank of england raising interest nolee— of england raising interest rates making— of england raising interest rates making our life more announ— rates making our life more difficult, making it tougher for none— difficult, making it tougher for home owners with mortgages? well.— home owners with mortgages? well. we— home owners with mortgages? well, the reason— home owners with mortgages? well, the reason they are is people— well, the reason they are is because inflation is still high. it's because inflation is still high. n-e 8.7%— because inflation is still high. it's 8.7% compared to just 4% in the it's 8.7% compared to just 4% in we we — it's 8.7% compared to just 4% in we we pne— it's 8.7% compared to just 4% in the us. the british— it's 8.7% compared to just 4% in the us. the british policy newne— the us. the british policy making establishment, they have got o— making establishment, they have got o eehwe— making establishment, they have got a serious problem. andrew onl— got a serious problem. andrew and new— got a serious problem. andrew and new were— got a serious problem. andrew and bev we're going to hear in the and bev we're going to hear in we next— and bev we're going to hear in we new now— and bev we're going to hear in the next half hour— and bev we're going to hear in the next half hour or so how lney-ne— the next half hour or so how lney-ne going— the next half hour or so how lney-ne going lo— the next half hour or so how they're going to resolve it . they're going to resolve it. and— they're going to resolve it. and enu— they're going to resolve it. and still to _ they're going to resolve it. and still to come,- they're going to resolve it. and still to come, of- they're going to resolve it. and still to come, of course, labour's going to appoint a diverse city tsar, like we need one of those to remove barriers to enter politics. is this an outdated strategy? well, i think so. and so did our tory mp. we spoke to darren, got his name . spoke to darren, got his name. he was very good anyway. can't nennennenp nle— he was very good anyway. can't remember his name. he's the kind of remember his name. he's the kind on pollnelon— remember his name. he's the kind of politician that— remember his name. he's the kind of politician that no— remember his name. he's the kind of politician that no one's neopl— of politician that no one's neonl on— of politician that no one's heard of that— of politician that no one's heard of that we should all know well— heard of that we should all know lneln none— heard of that we should all know their name and— heard of that we should all know their name and his— heard of that we should all know their name and his family from their name and his family from the caribbean. _ their name and his family from the caribbean. 50— their name and his family from the caribbean. 9l. l“ the caribbean. so he's got on title talk about. that's title to talk about. that's after morning news, of after your morning news, of course, rihanna .

after your morning news, of course, rihanna. andrew, course, with rihanna. andrew, thank you. course, with rihanna. andrew, lnonl you. we— course, with rihanna. andrew, thank you. it's just— course, with rihanna. andrew, thank you. it's just gone- f 7“ andrew, thank you. it's just gone 1030. wow— thank you. it's just gone 1030. wow lop— thank you. it's just gone 1030. your top stories— thank you. it's just gone 1030. your top stories from the newsroom. the- your top stories from the newsroom. the us coastguard says the newsroom. the us coastguard says lne eeonen— newsroom. the us coastguard says we eeonen non— newsroom. the us coastguard says the search for the— newsroom. the us coastguard says the search for the missing mone— the search for the missing titanic submersible has been exponoeo— titanic submersible has been exponoeo oe— titanic submersible has been expanded as it— titanic submersible has been expanded as it enters its enneol— expanded as it enters its critical phase— expanded as it enters its critical phase .- expanded as it enters its critical phase . aircraft and ten critical phase. aircraft and ten enlpe— critical phase. aircraft and ten enlpe oe— critical phase. aircraft and ten ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the ships are searching 10,000mi2 of we nonn— ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic— ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic ,— ships are searching 10,000mi2 of the north atlantic , while two the north atlantic, while two nennole— the north atlantic, while two remote controlled submersibles use sonar to monitor under the enenole lo— use sonar to monitor under the surface. la atlant— use sonar to monitor under the surface. la atlant carrying elole— surface. la atlant carrying elole on— surface. la atlant carrying state of the _ surface. la atlant carrying state of the art- surface. la atlant carrying state of the art rov, has now onnlweo— state of the art rov, has now onnlweo tn— state of the art rov, has now arrived in the— state of the art rov, has now arrived in the area. according to wepene— arrived in the area. according to website marine traffic.com nnnlen— to website marine traffic.com nnnlen peep— to website marine traffic.com british deep water salvage eonpony— british deep water salvage company magellan is also en ote— company magellan is also en ote twe— company magellan is also en route. five people are inside tne— route. five people are inside tne enott— route. five people are inside the craft that— route. five people are inside the craft that lost contact with the craft that lost contact with tne ewoete— the craft that lost contact with the surface on— the craft that lost contact with the surface on sunday. the bank of the surface on sunday. the bank ot tnolont— the surface on sunday. the bank on tnolont eet— the surface on sunday. the bank of england set to— the surface on sunday. the bank of england set to increase the tnteneet— of england set to increase the interest rate— of england set to increase the interest rate for— of england set to increase the interest rate for a— of england set to increase the interest rate for a 13th consecutive - interest rate for a 13th consecutive time later as it tntee— consecutive time later as it tntee to— consecutive time later as it tries to tackle— consecutive time later as it tries to tackle the ongoing pntee— tries to tackle the ongoing pntee neee— tries to tackle the ongoing price rises. the— tries to tackle the ongoing price rises. the latest figures potltenet— price rises. the latest figures published yesterday showed tntlotton— published yesterday showed inflation was— published yesterday showed inflation was stuck at 8.7% in woy. — inflation was stuck at 8.7% in woy. tne— inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest— inflation was stuck at 8.7% in may. the interest rate currently at may. the interest rate currently ot es.— may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains— may. the interest rate currently at 4.5, remains the bank's

pntnony— at 4.5, remains the bank's pntnony tool— at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to- at 4.5, remains the bank's primary tool to lower inflation, onto— primary tool to lower inflation, even amid rising— primary tool to lower inflation, even amid rising inflation. lotow— even amid rising inflation. lotow noe— even amid rising inflation. labour has called on banks to pnowte— labour has called on banks to pnowoe none— labour has called on banks to provide more support to homeowners— provide more support to homeowners facing mortgage poynent— homeowners facing mortgage payment difficulties. the party elotne— payment difficulties. the party claims their— payment difficulties. the party claims their five— payment difficulties. the party claims their five point plan wooll— claims their five point plan would allow— claims their five point plan would allow borrowers to switch to tnteneet— would allow borrowers to switch to interest only— would allow borrowers to switch to interest only payments or extent— to interest only payments or extend their— to interest only payments or extend their mortgage terms. the eowennnent— extend their mortgage terms. the government says— extend their mortgage terms. the government says lenders are olneoty— government says lenders are already required— government says lenders are already required to engage with etnwooltno— already required to engage with struggling customers . and king struggling customers. and king cnonlee— struggling customers. and king cnonlee eoye— struggling customers. and king charles says the— struggling customers. and king charles says the windrush oenenotton— charles says the windrush generation has— charles says the windrush generation has made a significant— generation has made a significant difference to the up. — significant difference to the wt. pnotetno— significant difference to the uk, praising its— significant difference to the uk, praising its legacy as pnotonnt— uk, praising its legacy as profound and— uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent. uk, praising its legacy as profound and permanent . at 75 profound and permanent. at 75 yeone— profound and permanent. at 75 yeone otten— profound and permanent. at 75 years after the— profound and permanent. at 75 years after the first crossing tnon — years after the first crossing tnon tne — years after the first crossing from the caribbean , the king from the caribbean, the king wil— from the caribbean, the king wtll te— from the caribbean, the king will be among— from the caribbean, the king will be among those at a service nett— will be among those at a service nelt ot— will be among those at a service held at windsor— will be among those at a service held at windsor castle later to nont— held at windsor castle later to not we— held at windsor castle later to mark the anniversary, a £1 ntllton— mark the anniversary, a £1 million fundraising effort is oleo— million fundraising effort is also underway— million fundraising effort is also underway to recover the onnon— also underway to recover the onnon tnon — also underway to recover the anchor from the _ also underway to recover the anchor from the ship that made tnot— anchor from the ship that made no enoeetno— anchor from the ship that made that crossing the— anchor from the ship that made that crossing the hmt empire. wtntnnen— that crossing the hmt empire. windrush sank— that crossing the hmt empire. windrush sank off the coast of aloento— windrush sank off the coast of aloento .— windrush sank off the coast of aloento . tn— windrush sank off the coast of algeria . in 1954.— windrush sank off the coast of algeria . in 1954. and you can algeria. in 1954. and you can get— algeria. in 1954. and you can get none— algeria. in 1954. and you can get on— algeria. in 1954. and you can get more on all— algeria. in 1954. and you can get more on all of those stories by wetttno— get more on all of those stories by wetttno ow— get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gb news

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christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio. it's christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . it's 1136. christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . it's1136. it's the point radio. it's 1136. it's the point on radio. it's1136. it's the point on on— radio. it's1136. it's the point on on wewe— radio. it's1136. it's the point on gb news as— 13: it's 1136. it's the point on gb news as we've said, the nont— on gb news as we've said, the nont ot— on gb news as we've said, the bank of england— on gb news as we've said, the bank of england is expected to announce an interest rate rise in announce an interest rate rise tn tne— announce an interest rate rise tn tne next— announce an interest rate rise tn tne next zo— announce an interest rate rise in the next 20 minutes or so. joining— in the next 20 minutes or so. joining we— in the next 20 minutes or so. joining we ow— in the next 20 minutes or so. joining us now is— in the next 20 minutes or so. joining us now is will hollis, wno— joining us now is will hollis, wno noe— joining us now is will hollis, who has speaking to a few people in who has speaking to a few people tn tne— who has speaking to a few people tn tne tntnetny— who has speaking to a few people in the industry this— who has speaking to a few people in the industry this morning, wtll.— in the industry this morning, wtll. ooot— in the industry this morning, will, good morning. t4:i;~; ”l will, good morning. yes, we're tene— will, good morning. yes, we're tene tn— will, good morning. yes, we're here in holac, uk money man, a mortgage broker. here in holac, uk money man, a mortgage broker . and you can see mortgage broker. and you can see all around lots of people work in lots of people checking their emails as well as checking the mortgage because the m word is

the big word for the day. of course , talking about, of course, talking about, of course, talking about, of course, interest rates and we've been talking about inflation yesterday, but lots of people have got their eyes set on 12:00 because that is when the bank of england will announce how much they're going to raising they're going to be raising interest rates by. we've got malcolm here who is malcolm davidson here who is from money man. you're the from uk money man. you're the managing inch managing director. as we inch closer how is the closer to 12:00, how is the atmosphere here and how is the atmosphere here and how is the atmosphere going to be for the people looking at mortgages people are looking at mortgages and their contracts and maybe their contracts ending? the ending? yeah well, i guess the tension is rising a little bit. if you've got your mortgage eontno— if you've got your mortgage eontno to— if you've got your mortgage eontno to on— if you've got your mortgage coming to an end in the next six nontte— coming to an end in the next six nontne. yon-ne— coming to an end in the next six months, you're going to be loottno— months, you're going to be loottno ont— months, you're going to be looking out for— months, you're going to be looking out for the announcement. today. we looking out for the— announcement. today. we were noptno— announcement. today. we were noptno-ntont— announcement. today. we were noptno-ntontlo- announcement. today. we were hoping might a 0.25% hoping that it might be a 0.25% nee— hoping that it might be a 0.25% neennnnowl— hoping that it might be a 0.25% rise-rumour that— hoping that it might be a 0.25% rise rumour that might be rise as rumour that it might be a rise as rumour that it might be o ltttle— rise as rumour that it might be a little-higher— rise as rumour that it might be a little higher than that, a little bit higher than that, alone— a little bit higher than that, giving pewte— a little bit higher than that, giving people added anxiety otont— giving people added anxiety otont-ootno- giving people added anxiety about-going if about what's going to happen if tnetn— about what's going to happen if tnetn nongooe— about what's going to happen if their mortgage-is- about what's going to happen if their mortgage is coming to their mortgage deal is coming to its their mortgage deal is coming to to. — their mortgage deal is coming to to. .wtot— their mortgage deal is coming to to. .wtot one- their mortgage deal is coming to its- .what are the- their mortgage deal is coming toi its- .what are the advice its end. and what are the advice that your mortgage brokers are going giving? because going to be giving? because everybody different everybody will have a different mortgage. everybody have mortgage. everybody will have a different salary. but what's the general be general idea that people will be heanng general idea that people will be

hearing from team and other hearing from your team and other mortgage brokers around the country? a country? well if you're in a fixed there's no fixed rate mortgage, there's no need because your deal need to panic because your deal isn't coming to an end in the next six months. you're okay, yon-ne— next six months. you're okay, you're insulated _ “lx. x you're okay, you're insulated against today's _teole- you're insulated against today's news. deals coming news. but if your deals coming to on— news. but if your deals coming to on ent— news. but if your deals coming to an end christmas, then to an end before christmas, then noet—tottno- to an end before christmas, then most—taking action. most people are taking action now:— most people are taking action now,-themselves- most people are taking action now, themselves locked most people are taking action now,a themselves locked most people are taking action now,a new themselves locked most people are taking action now,a new fixed mselves locked most people are taking action now,a new fixed rate.ies locked most people are taking action now,a new fixed rate. it's.ocked into a new fixed rate. it's ttttteolt— into a new fixed rate. it's difficult to fix difficult to know whether to fix for difficult to know whether to fix ton two — difficult to know whether to fix ton two yeone— difficult to know whether to fix for two years or— difficult to know whether to fix for two years or five years. two yeone— for two years or five years. two yeone-opponentty- for two years or five years. two years opportunity to years gives the opportunity to nettnone— years gives the opportunity to refinance-two- refinance again in two years tne— refinance again in two years ttne-tne— refinance again in two years time the situation refinance again in two years time _the situation be time when the situation may be tetten— time when the situation may be tetten. not— time when the situation may be better. butlthey're _ time when the situation may be better. but they're more risk better. but if they're more risk averse,-are still- better. but if they're more risk averse, are still fixing averse, people are still fixing for averse, people are still fixing ton—pentote- averse, people are still fixing for—periods of. averse, people are still fixing. for—periods of time for those longer periods of time to .themselves_ for those longer periods of time to themselves that longer to give themselves that longer peoee— to give themselves that longer peoee ot— to give themselves that longer peoee ot ntnol— to give themselves that longer peace of mind, of— to give themselves that longer peace of mind, of knowing that at peace of mind, of knowing that ot—poynente- peace of mind, of knowing that at_payments are- at least their payments are going— at least their payments are going-a— at least their payments are going a amount. if going to be a set amount. if tntnoe— going to be a set amount. if things continue— going to be a set amount. if things continue get worse, things continue to get worse, tt-e— things continue to get worse, we gone— things continue to get worse, we going to— things continue to get worse, we going to te— things continue to get worse, it's going to be day it's going to be a busy day nene. — it's going to be a busy day nene. we-ne— it's going to be a busy day here. we're still- it's going to be a busy day here. �*flt�*tzi; ”l; .. “lg here. we're still looking towards 12:00 time. towards that 12:00 time. malcolm's going anywhere and malcolm's not going anywhere and neither is any of his staff, but still a little bit away from when the bank of england announced that interest rate decision . he will. thank you. decision. he will. thank you. wtll. — decision. he will. thank you. wtll. wtll— decision. he will. thank you. will. will hall— decision. he will. thank you. will. will hall is— decision. he will. thank you. will. will hall is there- will. will hall is there bringing— will. will hall is there bringing we— will. will hall is there bringing us a bit of insight tnto— bringing us a bit of insight tnto tne— bringing us a bit of insight into the interest rates. jill, tnont— into the interest rates. jill, tnont yon— into the interest rates. jill, tnont yon .— into the interest rates. jill, thank you , will. of course, just thank you, will. of course, just to te— thank you, will. of course, just to te teleo— thank you, will. of course, just to be clear, 12:00— thank you, will. of course, just to be clear, 12:00 andrew pierce

lt-e— to be clear, 12:00 andrew pierce we not— to be clear, 12:00 andrew pierce we not tnot— to be clear, 12:00 andrew pierce it's not that he— to be clear, 12:00 andrew pierce it's not that he doesn't like wtll— it's not that he doesn't like wtll holly.— it's not that he doesn't like will holly. he— it's not that he doesn't like will holly. he didn't want to go to. nee— will holly. he didn't want to go to. we weny— will holly. he didn't want to go to. he's very fine. _ will holly. he didn't want to go to. he's very fine. reporter nee— to. he's very fine. reporter ne-e weny— to. he's very fine. reporter he's very excited that our ponelltet— he's very excited that our panellist is— he's very excited that our panellist is here, sam lister ont— panellist is here, sam lister ont enno— panellist is here, sam lister and emma wolvaardt. we can all poll— and emma wolvaardt. we can all poll-togetnen- and emma wolvaardt. we can all poll-togetnen .- and emma wolvaardt. we can all pull together . right, pull ourselves together. right, lottee— pull ourselves together. right, lottee .— pull ourselves together. right, lottee . wee— pull ourselves together. right, ladies , we're going to talk ladies, we're going to talk otont— ladies, we're going to talk about diversity— ladies, we're going to talk about diversity in the labour party— about diversity in the labour tony ont— about diversity in the labour party and angela rayner eonetoty. — party and angela rayner eonetooy. l— party and angela rayner somebody. i know that andrew is a somebody. i know that andrew is o ton— somebody. i know that andrew is a massive fan of— somebody. i know that andrew is a massive fan of angela rayner, snee— a massive fan of angela rayner, sne-e tne— a massive fan of angela rayner, sne-e tne oepwty— a massive fan of angela rayner, she's the deputy leader and she is she's the deputy leader and she te ootno— she's the deputy leader and she te going to— she's the deputy leader and she is going to appoint a diversity teon— is going to appoint a diversity teon to— is going to appoint a diversity tsar to remove— is going to appoint a diversity tsar to remove the barriers to entny. — tsar to remove the barriers to entny. lt— tsar to remove the barriers to entny. lt teete— tsar to remove the barriers to entry. it feels a— tsar to remove the barriers to entry. it feels a bit old fashioned.— entry. it feels a bit old fashioned. this time, doesn't tte — fashioned. this time, doesn't to wow— fashioned. this time, doesn't to now to— fashioned. this time, doesn't it? now do you— fashioned. this time, doesn't- it? now do you know what really struck me about this? so i mean it's the labour party for goodness sake. it's the loop. so i had a quick look just before i came in to in don valley my came in to see in don valley my where i grew it's doncaster, where i grew up. it's doncaster, it's a mining town. before blair, the blair landslide, the previous mps, one was previous three mps, one was a trucker, one was a coal miner, one was a trade unionist. you didn't need a diversity tsar back then. and this is going back then. and this is going back to the 60s, 70s, 80s. and how was the labour party got into a position where it is so

full of middle class mps that it has to employ a diversity tsar. it is no longer the party of working people. yeah, because it teete— working people. yeah, because it teele tt-e— working people. yeah, because it teele tt-e tox— working people. yeah, because it feels it's box ticking.— “lg yeah, because it feels it's box ticking. emma swely— feels it's box ticking. emma snnely . — feels it's box ticking. emma surely . totally— feels it's box ticking. emma surely . totally is. - feels it's box ticking. emma surely . “ feels it's box ticking. emma surely. “ ”l..?” surely. totally is. this felt? i had to check this wasn't a story from 20 years ago. exactly literally working class people and women. please, i don't need my to be encouraged my hand holding to be encouraged into politics. i think there are plenty they do plenty of things they could do to more friendly for to make it more friendly for many different groups. but i don't think a women need to be talked of this patronising talked of in this patronising way. class people don't way. working class people don't need to be patronised in this way. about reforming way. what about reforming working that women who way. what about reforming wormothers that women who way. what about reforming wormothers can that women who way. what about reforming wormothers can also: women who way. what about reforming wormothers can also canmen who way. what about reforming wormothers can also can workivho way. what about reforming wormothers can also can work in) are mothers can also can work in westminster whatever basic westminster or whatever basic things but for things like that. but as for diversity, tsars, even word diversity, tsars, even the word tsar makes want reach for tsar makes me want reach for a gun and more than 50% labour gun and more than 50% of labour mps are women anyway. yeah. and also the bigger problem the labour party has is the grip the trade union has on candidate selection. so i actually had a long chat a while ago to a somebody who was very well connected with the labour party, who kind of who had the great kind of working background and all working class background and all the they're looking

the things they're looking for here had backing of an here and had the backing of an mp but could the backing mp but could not get the backing of trade union and so, you of a trade union and so, you know, they didn't have know, they just didn't have a chance of getting selection. so i think, you know, the party has got issues here, i think got wider issues here, i think really. and would it be employed by really. and would it be employed bat—party— really. and would it be employed toy—tony on— really. and would it be employed toy—tony on wtll- really. and would it be employed by_party or will it- by the labour party or will it be o— by the labour party or will it be o pott— by the labour party or will it be o polo-tne- by the labour party or will it be a paid the public? is be a paid for by the public? is it be a paid for by the public? is tt ootno—ot- be a paid for by the public? is. it going—of public? it going to come out of public? i it going to come out of public? l neolly— it going to come out of public? l neolly nope— it going to come out of public? i really hope not. _ it going to come out of public? i really hope not. i— it going to come out of public? i really hope not. i don't- it going to come out of public? i really hope not. i don't think that will go down well. i mean, no, i hope it's paid for by them. i'm not i mean, it's quite clear. idon't them. i'm not i mean, it's quite clear. i don't want to talk otont— clear. i don't want to talk about state _ clear. i don't want to talk about state the- f i don't want to talk about state the obvious. we've got o— about state the obvious. we've got o tntee— about state the obvious. we've got a prime minister with indian nennoe.— got a prime minister with indian heritage, secretary is heritage, the home secretary is eeenetony—tel heritage, the home secretary isi eeenetony—te oe secretary suella braverman is as well— secretary suella braverman is as well-te— secretary suella braverman is as well-te tne— secretary suella braverman is as well.-is the thing,- secretary suella braverman is as well. is the thing, right? well. this is the thing, right? i well. this is the thing, right? l tntnt— well. this is the thing, right? l tntnt tt-e— well. this is the thing, right? i think it's not— well. this is the thing, right? i think it's not relevant that sri i think it's not relevant that snt lonton— i think it's not relevant that sri lankan. that's why she's a- woman. _a woman. and woman. yeah, she's a woman. and the woman. yeah, she's a woman. and tne toneton— woman. yeah, she's a woman. and the foreign secretary— woman. yeah, she's a woman. and the foreign secretary isn't- the foreign secretary isn't wntte— the foreign secretary isn't white either,— the foreign secretary isn't white either, because liberty party— white either, because liberty party-diversity- white either, because liberty party diversity in party have got diversity in oetton— party have got diversity in action theory— party have got diversity in action theory and that's the ttttenenee. — action theory and that's the difference. .the - action theory and that's the difference. the labour party difference. and the labour party has never ever— difference. and the labour party has never ever elected a woman leoten. — has never ever elected a woman leoten. we. — has never ever elected a woman leader. no. maybe— has never ever elected a woman leader. \l hq ” leader. no. maybe the labour party. the labour party party. maybe the labour party does need diversity does need a diversity tsar because labour party because it's the labour party that much more of that has much more of a diversity problem than the conservative gives. maybe i think conservative gives. maybe i tntnt—neon- conservative gives. maybe i think—hear from| conservative gives. maybe i- think—hear from them think we'd rather hear from them

otont—ootno- think we'd rather hear from them otont—ootno to- think we'd rather hear from them about—going to do. about what they're going to do to-tnteneet— about what they're going to do to-interest rates- to stop interest rates eptnolltno— to stop interest rates spiralling of control. to stop interest rates- spiralling-of control. yeah spiralling out of control. yeah tney— spiralling out of control. yeah tney-oot— spiralling out of control. yeah tney-oot on- spiralling out of control. yeah they got an answer they haven't got an answer teeooee— they haven't got an answer because nobody's they haven't got an answer- because nobody's-answer. because nobody's got an answer. tnte— because nobody's got an answer. this-divisive. it's— because nobody's got an answer. “ : . it's divisive. this is divisive. it's divisive. we beyond the point we should be beyond the point where what melanin in where what melanin you've got in your whether your gender your skin or whether your gender we've well. it's 75th we've done well. it's the 75th anniversary of today anniversary of windrush today and really good to and it's a really good time to reflect brilliantly reflect on how brilliantly diverse welcoming diverse and welcoming this country talk about country is. let's talk about qualities, not not genetics. sorry, carry on. who's been to eloetontwny— sorry, carry on. who's been to glastonbury festival- l3”” who's been to glastonbury festival here? ti.3”” who's been to glastonbury festival here? iiyt glastonbury festival here? my wont— glastonbury festival here? my worst nightmare?— glastonbury festival here? my worst nightmare? no,- glastonbury festival here? my worst nightmare? no, none of my worst nightmare? no, none of my worst nightmare. i'm actually i'm worst nightmare. i'm actually tn lowtno— worst nightmare. i'm actually i'm loving this— “ 341i; i'm actually i'm loving this weather, but i'm oetnolly— i'm loving this weather, but i'm oetwolly neolly— i'm loving this weather, but i'm actually really sad— i'm loving this weather, but i'm actually really sad that it's not— actually really sad that it's not-t— actually really sad that it's not-t lowe- actually really sad that it's not-i love it- actually really sad that it's. not-i love it-the not raining. i love it when the eloetontwny— not raining. i love it when the glastonbury quagmire , when it glastonbury quagmire, when it notne— glastonbury quagmire, when it notne-yon— glastonbury quagmire, when it notne-yon eee— glastonbury quagmire, when it rains you see mud and rains and you see the mud and note— rains and you see the mud and note-eeen— rains and you see the mud and have-seen them?- rains and you see the mud and have seen them? then after have you seen them? then after the glastonbury— have you seen them? then after the glastonbury horror weekend and the glastonbury horror weekend ont nove— the glastonbury horror weekend ont note you— the glastonbury horror weekend and have you seen them tramping tnnonon— and have you seen them tramping tnnowon lonton— and have you seen them tramping through london with their mud enennetet— through london with their mud encrusted sleeping bags and people— encrusted sleeping bags and people tolttno— encrusted sleeping bags and people talking about the bath tney— people talking about the bath tney got— people talking about the bath tney oot tnto— people talking about the bath they got into after five days? camping?— they got into after five days? camping? camping is a nightmare. eloetontwny— camping? camping is a nightmare. eloetontwny te— camping? camping is a nightmare. eloetontwny te t— camping? camping is a nightmare. glastonbury is i would pay. we-ne— glastonbury is i would pay. we're talking— glastonbury is i would pay. we're talking about gas prices. i we're talking about gas prices. t woole— we're talking about gas prices. t wowlo poy— we're talking about gas prices. twowlt poy not— we're talking about gas prices. i would pay not to go to glastonbury— i would pay not to go to glastonbury £300. :

glastonbury £300. i would pay eooo— glastonbury £300. i would pay £300 not to go to glastonbury and camp with a bunch of hippies and camp with a bunch of hippies and crusties. and this is the place where they were singing, oh, jeremy corbyn. jeremy corbyn was a years ago. yeah was there a few years ago. yeah sing it, sing it. oh jeremy contyn. — sing it, sing it. oh jeremy contyn. on.— sing it, sing it. oh jeremy corbyn. oh, my.- sing it, sing it. oh jeremy corbyn. oh, my. terrible, terrible man. terrible labour. bhng terrible man. terrible labour. bring about willis. yeah. everything had to be sung to that tune for about five years. literally getting the shudders. i literally getting the shudders. t know.— literally getting the shudders. t know. tot— literally getting the shudders. t know. tot t— literally getting the shudders. i know, but i must— literally getting the shudders. i know, but i must say,- literally getting the shudders. i know, but i must say, when i heard them singing it, i thought, is he going to do a bit better in this 2017 election? but i thought, you know, you know what, it's the glastonbury thing. it's the it's the classic enonpoone— “t; it's the it's the classic champagne socialist crowd, monon— champagne socialist crowd, tnetn-lt- champagne socialist crowd, though,-it is.- champagne socialist crowd, though,-it is. £7. champagne socialist crowd, though, it is. £7 for though, isn't it? it is. £7 for a though, isn't it? it is. £7 for o teen.— though, isn't it? it is. £7 for o teen. teee— though, isn't it? it is. £7 for a beer, £300 for— though, isn't it? it is. £7 for a beer, £300 for a ticket if you wont— a beer, £300 for a ticket if you wontloo — a beer, £300 for a ticket if you wontloolyow— a beer, £300 for a ticket if you want-golyour year- a beer, £300 for a ticket if you want go your year to new, want to go in your year to new, youn— want to go in your year to new, your stamping-— want to go in your year to new, your glamping- it's_ want to go in your year to new, your glamping. it's thousands of i your glamping. it's thousands of t—wno— your glamping. it's thousands of t—wno twe- your glamping. it's thousands of t—wno ltwe tn- your glamping. it's thousands of i_who live in the. i have friends who live in the pontoon— i have friends who live in the barbican who— i have friends who live in the barbican who are— i have friends who live in the barbican who are their barbican who are taking their ttttoe— barbican who are taking their- ttttoe—tney kiddos in a wheelbarrow and they tntnt—ttnt- kiddos in a wheelbarrow and they tntnt—ttnt otl think they're incredibly kind of way— think they're incredibly kind of woy-wttn— think they're incredibly kind of way _with their- way out there with their wheelbarrows and their expensive woten— wheelbarrows and their expensive woten tottlee— wheelbarrows and their expensive water bottles .the _ wheelbarrows and their expensive water bottles the kids. water bottles for the kids. tnet— water bottles for the kids. poet no — water bottles for the kids. toot no .— water bottles for the kids. just no , no. it's- water bottles for the kids. just no , no. it's a- water bottles for the kids. it's a festival for just no, no. it's a festival for tne— just no, no. it's a festival for tne ntttle— just no, no. it's a festival for the middle aged.— it's a festival for the middle aged. that is not cool.— the middle aged. that is not cool. too— the middle aged. that is not cool. you know,— the middle aged. that is not cool. you know, nobody surely nototy— cool. you know, nobody surely nobody-middle- cool. you know, nobody surely nobody. middle aged, middle nobody. it's middle aged, middle loee— nobody. it's middle aged, middle oloee—ttel class. it's who's topping the bill year? oh, i couldn't

bill this year? oh, i couldn't even you. it's kylie even tell you. it's kylie ntnoowe. — even tell you. it's kylie minogue. there's a slot free and that taylor swift might turn up. oh, that'd be great. i wouldn't know a oh, that'd be great. i wouldn't know o toylon— oh, that'd be great. i wouldn't know a taylor swift— 0“ .“3.: gizil3. iwouldn't know a taylor swift record if i tell. — know a taylor swift record if i tell. t— know a taylor swift record if i tell. t towe— know a taylor swift record if i fell. i have to— know a taylor swift record if i fell. i have to say- know a taylor swift record if i fell. i have to say i- know a taylor swift record if i fell. . . fell. i have to say i like a bit of taylor swift. yeah, i do. i do. there's a brilliant documentary about her on netflix at the moment, but. but no, it wouldn't be enough to get us there, would it? no. what else are we going to talk about? let's astley. he's let's rick astley. he's pentonntno— let's rick astley. he's performing at- 1ti.

not— my arm. and as i walked out, we aetley— my arm. and as i walked out, rick astley walked out of his tent— rick astley walked out of his tent-onet— rick astley walked out of his tent-onet ot- rick astley walked out of his tent gust of wind caught tent and a gust of wind caught my tent and a gust of wind caught my-'_ tent and a gust of wind caught ny-t note- tent and a gust of wind caught ny-t note eye- tent and a gust of wind caught. my-i made eye contact my towel and i made eye contact wttn— my towel and i made eye contact wttn-aetley— my towel and i made eye contact with .astley .was - my towel and i made eye contact with astley was pretty with rick astley as i was pretty noon— with rick astley as i was pretty noon-tn— with rick astley as i was pretty noon-tn tne— with rick astley as i was pretty much _in the field - with rick astley as i was pretty much in the field right. much naked in the field right. ant— much naked in the field right. ant ne— much naked in the field right. ant ne tnet— much naked in the field right. and he just-good- much naked in the field right. and he just good morning. and he just said, good morning. ant— and he just said, good morning. ant t— and he just said, good morning. ant t went.— and he just said, good morning. and i went, oh,— and he just said, good morning. and i went, oh, i'm so sorry. eoot— and i went, oh, i'm so sorry. good morning.— and i went, oh, i'm so sorry. good morning. and i carried good morning. and i just carried on—tt— good morning. and i just carried on—tt-ont- good morning. and i just carried on—tt-ont t- good morning. and i just carried on—tt-ont t eowi on and i styled it out and i saw it. on and i styled it out and i saw t. t— on and i styled it out and i saw t. t etylet— on and i styled it out and i saw it. i styled.out_ on and i styled it out and i saw it. i styledlout-i- on and i styled it out and i saw it. i styled out i saw it. i styled it out and i saw ntn— it. i styled it out and i saw ntn-tn— it. i styled it out and i saw ntn-tn tne— it. i styled it out and i saw him-in the bar.- it. i styled it out and i saw him in the bar. and him later in the bar. and i eoe.— him later in the bar. and i eott. tn— him later in the bar. and i said, i'm ever— him later in the bar. and i said, i'm ever so- him later in the bar. and i said, i'm ever so sorry about ttot— said, i'm ever so sorry about tnot-ne— said, i'm ever so sorry about that.-he said,- said, i'm ever so sorry about that.-he said, oh,- said, i'm ever so sorry about that. he said, oh, no, don't that. and he said, oh, no, don't wonny— that. and he said, oh, no, don't wow-lt— that. and he said, oh, no, don't wonny-tt. non-t— that. and he said, oh, no, don't worry it. don't apologise. worry about it. don't apologise. tet— worry about it. don't apologise. red-heterosexual- worry about it. don't apologise. red heterosexual man red blooded heterosexual man is ten— red blooded heterosexual man is weny-ne-e— red blooded heterosexual man is weny-ne-e-ot- red blooded heterosexual man is very-he's-of those. very popular. he's one of those people— people that has come back, noen-t— people that has come back, noen-t-tnon — people that has come back, hasn't-from his- people that has come back, hasn't from his renaissance. hasn't he, from his renaissance. ant—now.- hasn't he, from his renaissance. ant—now. teon. and people love him now. yeah. tntwtnoly— enduringly popular because he only—otoot- enduringly popular because he only—otoot tol enduringly popular because hei only—about to hit only made about to about to hit tony— only made about to about to hit tony-tnene-e— only made about to about to hit tony-there's one- only made about to about to hit tony there's one chesney tony hawks there's one chesney nowtee—t- tony hawks there's one chesney nowtee—t on- tony hawks there's one chesney hawkes_| am the. tony hawks there's one chesney. hawkes_| am the one hawkes song. yeah i am the one and only still of and only yeah still kind of morning yeah yeah never going to give right. give you up. yeah. um right. wnot— give you up. yeah. um right. wnot otoot— give you up. yeah. um right. what about sir— lg .. yeah. um right. what about sir bernard jenkins ? what about sir bernard jenkins? wnot— what about sir bernard jenkins? wnot-toe— what about sir bernard jenkins? what-do? isn't- what about sir bernard jenkins? what-do? isn't he- what about sir bernard jenkins? what do? isn't he stormed what did he do? isn't he stormed off something?— what did he do? isn't he stormed off something? what the hell are lttee — off something? what the hell are lttee tney-ne— off something? what the hell are like? they're on— off something? what the hell are like? they're on day— off something? what the hell are like? “tz3 ”l l“ 93 l g“. like? they're on day eight, i think newspaper has been targeting . i targeting sir bernard. i remember he was on the targeting sir bernard. i- remember he was on the coat. he on tne— remember he was on the coat. he was on the committee. privileged nntwtleoe—oowei privilege committee, which gave nonle— privilege committee, which gave none tonneon— privilege committee, which gave boris johnson ludicrous boris johnson a ludicrous chair of-committee_ boris johnson a ludicrous chair of-committee ,— boris johnson a ludicrous chair of committee , wasn't of the committee, wasn't he? woee— of the committee, wasn't he? woee teon.— of the committee, wasn't he? was? yeah. senior tory mp. a nnextteen— was? yeah. senior tory mp. a brexiteer hates— was? yeah. senior tory mp. a brexiteer hates boris. ln; brexiteer hates boris. long ttnne. — brexiteer hates boris. long the long— brexiteer hates boris. long time. long time with boris and

the mail reported well, it was on guido fawkes actually, we've all reported that, sir bernard went to a to party during lockdown. up to ten people teltewet— lockdown. up to ten people teltewet to— lockdown. up to ten people believed to have— i: up to ten people believed to have been there. soon— believed to have been there. social distancing— believed to have been there. social distancing apparently went out the window. it was in the office of deputy the office of the deputy speaken the office of the deputy speaker, eleanor laing. speaker, dame eleanor laing. yeah. was his for sir yeah. and it was his for sir bernard's wife's birthday . i bernard's wife's birthday. i think it was a joint, actually. a birthday and it a joint birthday party. and it was an invitation sent was actually an invitation sent out. yeah. yeah. the mail had been brilliant i was been brilliant on this. i was just to say, they've been just going to say, they've been brilliant because we're on silence de eight. silence of sir bernard de eight. i they going i love every day they are going to story he breaks to run a story until he breaks his actually , i have his silence and actually, i have to say, i popped into the mail office told them office yesterday and told them that in the in palace that he was in the in the palace precincts. and one of my colleagues. and they colleagues. yeah. and they racing churchill racing down david churchill to chase estate. chase him around the estate. you're inciting paparazzi harassment ? well, they tracked harassment? well, they tracked him down. and actually, sir bernard refused to speak. he said, i'm not speaking to you. and according to david churchill stormed off and refused to engage. but they're just going to keep at him until he gives an

explanation and it won't go away. and people is absolutely going— away. and people is absolutely ootno to— away. and people is absolutely going to te— away. and people is absolutely going to be raised— and people is absolutely going to be raised in the commons. .you- going to be raised in the- commons. .you explain, sam, commons. can you explain, sam, why have to why does some people have to sort for their crimes, sort of pay for their crimes, not crimes , having not their crimes, having a having yeah. having a glass of wine? yeah. why some why does why do some people why does bods why do some people why does boris why do the party goers who have the people have parties, why do the people that on benches with their that sat on benches with their sandwiches, to sandwiches, why do they have to answer for their crimes? and people bernard just people like sir bernard just claiming wasn't people like sir bernard just clpartyg wasn't people like sir bernard just clparty when wasn't people like sir bernard just clparty when it wasn't people like sir bernard just clparty when it was, wasn't people like sir bernard just clparty when it was, and asn't people like sir bernard just clparty when it was, and thet a party when it was, and the wife said, come my birthday wife said, come to my birthday bash. only special people tnwttet. — bash. only special people invited. _not. invited. why is he not being forced ? what about forced to answer? what about those leaping around at those jokers leaping around at that christmas party the other day in the red braces and the mirror are not mirror thing? why are they not being. well, basically being. well, i think basically the being. well, i think basically tne-nonle— being. well, i think basically the-boris are- “t; well, i think basically the boris are saying the allies of boris are saying tnot— the allies of boris are saying tnot-tnot— the allies of boris are saying that-that the- that it's time that the privileged _ that it's time that the privileged privileges committee tnweettootee— investigates the burnham well, and investigates the burnham well, one-to— investigates the burnham well, and to remember. investigates the burnham well, and-to remember. he's and we have to remember. so he's ettttno— and we have to remember. so he's ettttne tn— and we have to remember. so he's sitting in judgement on the former prime minister having apparently the rules apparently broken the rules himself, rules that you and i, we all was stupid, we all thought was stupid, ludicrous, but they were rules that his government in that his government brought in and subjected the former, not to and subjected the former, not to a 90 day ban from , but taking a 90 day ban from, but taking away his parliamentary pass so

he can't enter parliament and come and go as all other former mps can. and no wonder boris is notne— mps can. and no wonder boris is nootno ont— mps can. and no wonder boris is nootno ono onony— mps can. and no wonder boris is raging and angry and— ii i t“ and no wonder boris is raging and angry and childish tnt— raging and angry and childish rmt because— raging and angry and childish rmt because it— raging and angry and childish rmt because it is unfair. it is nntotn— rmt because it is unfair. it is ontotn tnot— rmt because it is unfair. it is unfair that this— rmt because it is unfair. it is unfair that this guy who is on the committee— unfair that this guy who is on the committee was breaking the wee— the committee was breaking the note oe— the committee was breaking the note oe well— the committee was breaking the rules as well. yeah— the committee was breaking the rules as well. yeah and we enonltn-t— rules as well. yeah and we shouldn't forget- rules as well. yeah and we shouldn't forget that the nonlet— shouldn't forget that the harriet harman who chaired it tnnee— harriet harman who chaired it tnnee ttnee— harriet harman who chaired it three times in— harriet harman who chaired it three times in one day, was tolttno— three times in one day, was tolttno on— three times in one day, was talking on social media about now— talking on social media about now nonle— talking on social media about how boris had— talking on social media about how boris had broken the rules epeetoewlonly— how boris had broken the rules spectacularly and— how boris had broken the rules spectacularly and she was ollowet— spectacularly and she was ollowet to— spectacularly and she was allowed to chair the chair. the oonntttee— allowed to chair the chair. the committee absolutely. allowed to chair the chair. i but i committee absolutely. but i think what you might- i but i think what you might see rishi sonot— think what you might see rishi sonot neck.— think what you might see rishi sunak neck, he's— think what you might see rishi sunak neck, he's out doing an event—questions. event later taking questions non— event later taking questions non-ne- event later taking questions tnon-ne noe- event later taking questions. from-he has refused from the press. he has refused so from the press. he has refused eo-eoy— from the press. he has refused eo-eoy-otontl so far to say anything about wnot— so far to say anything about wnot ne— so far to say anything about what he thinks— so far to say anything about what he thinks about the 90 toye— what he thinks about the 90 toye-poet- what he thinks about the 90 toye-poet tetnol days, about the past being removed, about— days, about the past being removed, about the verdict of days, about the past being rem report. bout the verdict of days, about the past being rem report. bout het verdict of days, about the past being rem report. bout he didn't:t of the report. and he didn't otwtonely— the report. and he didn't obviously vote- the report. and he didn't obviously vote on them. no, he not— obviously vote on them. no, he not o— obviously vote on them. no, he not o ntwettno— obviously vote on them. no, he had a riveting meeting with the sweeten— had a riveting meeting with the swedish prime— had a riveting meeting with the swedish prime minister. ' “g had a riveting meeting with the swedish 1: fiinister. ' “g had a riveting meeting with the swedish 1: r ' “g had a riveting meeting with the swedish 1: “g how they talked about most famous export ikea or abba. what else would you talk to? sweden. and he had a charity dinner that he just to go to that last he just had to go to that last year was attended by sajid javid. so they didn't have the pm this pm last year. suddenly this yean pm last year. suddenly this year, and how

year, this charity was. and how long? enough. you know how long itlttakesznough. you know how long itlttakes to ugh. you know how long year, this charity was. and how lotakes to vote.(ou know how long year, this charity was. and how lotakes to vote. sam now how long year, this charity was. and how lotakes to vote. sam five how long it takes to vote. sam five ntnetee— it takes to vote. sam five minutes. exactly. your prime wtnteten— minutes. exactly. your prime. minister—there. minister car to take you there. teon. — minister car to take you there. teon. _tntnt— minister car to take you there. yeah. _think-be- yeah. and i think it will be interesting because obviously it's very difficult for rishi sunak. doesn't want sunak. you know, he doesn't want to boris the to upset the boris ites in the party. doesn't want to upset party. he doesn't want to upset the but, know, the grass roots. but, you know, can silent on can he stay silent forever on what thinks? is it fair? what he thinks? no. is it fair? you his colleagues, you know, his colleagues, michael days michael gove has said 90 days was he's newspaper. was unfair. he's my newspaper. persistent. is absolutely persistent. it is absolutely doddie is on your case. doddie aid is on your case. you're in trouble. you are? well, holly's better out. well, holly's better watch out. tttont. — well, holly's better watch out. wont-yon. — well, holly's better watch out. tttont. -yon. sonn- well, holly's better watch out. right. you. ;l“ right. thank you. sam. listen, stop— right. thank you. sam. listen, stop looking at your phone on the telly . honestly, no. just the telly. honestly, no. just oneettno— the telly. honestly, no. just oneettno lt— the telly. honestly, no. just checking if it— the telly. honestly, no. just checking if it was- honestly, no. just checking if it was ringing. nee— checking if it was ringing. we got— checking if it was ringing. he's got better— checking if it was ringing. he's got better places- checking if it was ringing. he's got better places to be. clearly thank you for joining us. we've come the end of our us. we've come to the end of our week. coming up next is gb news live mark longhurst. this live with mark longhurst. this has point has been to the point with andrew you on andrew and bev. see you on monday. then. good monday. see you then. good afternoon. welcome to your loteet— afternoon. welcome to your loteet on — afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news— t“ welcome to your latest gb news weather update. wttn— latest gb news weather update. with shuttleworth with me, annie shuttleworth from the with me, annie shuttleworth from tne-entoe. — with me, annie shuttleworth from the - office. now _ with me, annie shuttleworth from the .office. now the - with me, annie shuttleworth from the office. now the rest of the met office. now the rest of the met office. now the rest of the afternoon— the met office. now the rest of the afternoon will— the met office. now the rest of the afternoon will be warm and ennny — the afternoon will be warm and sunny. _weather. the afternoon will be warm andi sunny. _weather out sunny. plenty of dry weather out ttene— sunny. plenty of dry weather out wee—ettll- sunny. plenty of dry weather out ttene—ettll o- sunny. plenty of dry weather out there,_still a risk- there, but there's still a risk of thunderstorms and that's as a neeolt— of thunderstorms and that's as a neeolt ot— of thunderstorms and that's as a result of-influence- of thunderstorms and that's as a result of influence of the result of the influence of the petty— result of the influence of the. pnetty—tnot-e pretty unsettled weather that's otteettno—

pretty unsettled weather that's affecting germany affecting france and germany tne— affecting france and germany over the next— affecting france and germany over the next 24— affecting france and germany over the next 24 hours. but high pee te— over the next 24 hours. but high pressure is mostly— over the next 24 hours. but high pressure is mostly extending tne— pressure is mostly extending across the uk,— pressure is mostly extending across the uk, bringing many a fine— across the uk, bringing many a ttne ent— across the uk, bringing many a ttne ent to— across the uk, bringing many a fine end to the— across the uk, bringing many a fine end to the day. however a thunderstorm _ fine end to the day. however a thunderstorm warning is still in tone— thunderstorm warning is still in tone ton— thunderstorm warning is still in force for central— thunderstorm warning is still in force for central areas . now force for central areas. now tne— force for central areas. now across the west.— force for central areas. now across the west. you notice wetl— across the west. you notice we-ll eton— across the west. you notice we'll start to _ across the west. you notice we'll start to see- across the west. you notice we'll start to see some the clout— we'll start to see some the cloud cover— we'll start to see some the cloud cover increasing and rain nowtno— cloud cover increasing and rain nowtno tnto— cloud cover increasing and rain nowtno tnto pone— cloud cover increasing and rain moving into parts of northern netone— moving into parts of northern tnelont ont— moving into parts of northern ireland and western scotland owenntont— ireland and western scotland overnight tonight . that could overnight tonight. that could pntno— overnight tonight. that could bring eoe— overnight tonight. that could bring some pretty heavy townpowe— bring some pretty heavy downpours at- bring some pretty heavy downpours at times. but for nonw— downpours at times. but for new lt— downpours at times. but for new tt wtll— downpours at times. but for many, it will be— downpours at times. but for many, it will be a dry and quite ntlt— many, it will be a dry and quite ntlt nont— many, it will be a dry and quite mild night start— many, it will be a dry and quite mild night start to— many, it will be a dry and quite mild night start to feel quite muggy,— mild night start to feel quite muggyy_the| muggy, especially under the clout— muggy, especially under the eloot ont— muggy, especially under the cloud and rain— muggy, especially under the cloud and rain in the far west. so cloud and rain in the far west. so tononnow— cloud and rain in the far west. so tomorrow morning will be a dry so tomorrow morning will be a tny eton— so tomorrow morning will be a to eton ton— so tomorrow morning will be a dry start for many— so tomorrow morning will be a dry start for many areas of the county.— dry start for many areas of the county wetl— dry start for many areas of the country. we'll see— dry start for many areas of the country. we'll see a decent oont— country. we'll see a decent oont ot— country. we'll see a decent amount of sunshine across the eontn—eoet— amount of sunshine across the south—east and— amount of sunshine across the south—east and it's going to teel— south—east and it's going to teel — south—east and it's going to feel warm in— south—east and it's going to feel warm in that sunshine yet oootn— feel warm in that sunshine yet oootn .— feel warm in that sunshine yet oootn . not— feel warm in that sunshine yet again . but across— feel warm in that sunshine yet again . but across the west, again. but across the west, tt-ll— again. but across the west, tt-ll tonn— again. but across the west, it'll turn increasingly cloudy tnnononoot— it'll turn increasingly cloudy throughout the— it'll turn increasingly cloudy throughout the day with outbreaks— throughout the day with outbreaks of— throughout the day with outbreaks of quite heavy rain tnto— outbreaks of quite heavy rain tnto tne— outbreaks of quite heavy rain into the afternoon across much of into the afternoon across much ot eootlont— into the afternoon across much of scotland and— into the afternoon across much of scotland and areas of nonnweet— of scotland and areas of northwest england, feeling very tn tne— northwest england, feeling very warm in the sunshine in the eontt—eoet— warm in the sunshine in the south—east. as— warm in the sunshine in the south—east. as i— warm in the sunshine in the south—east. as i highs of south—east. as i said, highs of 28 south—east. as i said, highs of ze-tononnow- south—east. as i said, highs of ze-tononnow .- south—east. as i said, highs of 28 tomorrow . then 28 degrees tomorrow. then tnnonon— 28 degrees tomorrow. then through friday— 28 degrees tomorrow. then through friday evening, a fine

ent— through friday evening, a fine ent to— through friday evening, a fine ent to tne— through friday evening, a fine end to the working week across the end to the working week across tne eootn— end to the working week across tne eontn ont— end to the working week across the south and east. but cloud ettll— the south and east. but cloud cover still continuing to increase across many northern tne— increase across many northern tne notn— increase across many northern areas. the rain will generally be totte— areas. the rain will generally be owtte poteny— areas. the rain will generally be quite patchy for most areas, but be quite patchy for most areas, tot tt-e— be quite patchy for most areas, lot we gone— be quite patchy for most areas, lot we going to— be quite patchy for most areas, but it's going to be quite penetetent— but it's going to be quite persistent for— but it's going to be quite persistent for northern scotland . sone — persistent for northern scotland . sone neowy— persistent for northern scotland . some heavy downpours and pennope— . some heavy downpours and pennope eoe— . some heavy downpours and perhaps some thundery downpours in perhaps some thundery downpours tn tnene. — perhaps some thundery downpours tn tnene. not— perhaps some thundery downpours tn tnene. not lt— perhaps some thundery downpours in there. but it will— perhaps some thundery downpours in there. but it will be an even ntlten— in there. but it will be an even ntlten nont— in there. but it will be an even milder night highs, lows of 17 or milder night highs, lows of 17 on to— milder night highs, lows of 17 on to teoneee— milder night highs, lows of 17 or 18 degrees for— milder night highs, lows of 17 or 18 degrees for many towns and etttee— or 18 degrees for many towns and etttee on— or 18 degrees for many towns and cities on friday— or 18 degrees for many towns and cities on friday night. so a eton— cities on friday night. so a warm start on— cities on friday night. so a warm start on saturday and plenty— warm start on saturday and plenty ot— warm start on saturday and plenty of warm _ warm start on saturday and plenty of warm weather around for plenty of warm weather around ton nnon— plenty of warm weather around ton noon ot— plenty of warm weather around for much of the— plenty of warm weather around for much of the weekend. so sotnntoy— for much of the weekend. so saturday will— for much of the weekend. so saturday will see plenty of fine ont— saturday will see plenty of fine ont ony— saturday will see plenty of fine and dry weather— saturday will see plenty of fine and dry weather for the bulk of the and dry weather for the bulk of tne wt.— and dry weather for the bulk of tne on not— and dry weather for the bulk of the uk. but we'll— and dry weather for the bulk of the uk. but we'll continue to tnot— the uk. but we'll continue to see that pattern— the uk. but we'll continue to see that pattern of rain moving in see that pattern of rain moving tn to— see that pattern of rain moving in to northwestern— see that pattern of rain moving in to northwestern areas tnnowonoot— in to northwestern areas throughout saturday and .

sunday you're with gb news live. i'm mark longhurst for mark longhurst and coming up for you thursday lunchtime . you this thursday lunchtime. pain gain us in the next few pain or gain us in the next few ntnntee— pain or gain us in the next few ntnntee. tne— pain or gain us in the next few minutes, the bank— pain or gain us in the next few minutes, the bank of england to tte— minutes, the bank of england to announce its decision on tnteneet— announce its decision on interest rates.- announce its decision on interest rates. could they be ntetno— interest rates. could they be ntetno ton— interest rates. could they be rising for the _ interest rates. could they be rising for the 13th consecutive tne— rising for the 13th consecutive ttne ont— rising for the 13th consecutive time and some— rising for the 13th consecutive time and some economists pneotettno— time and some economists predicting that— time and some economists predicting that base rate could be gone— predicting that base rate could be going up— predicting that base rate could be going ”p by— predicting that base rate could be going ”p by a_ predicting that base rate could be going up by a full half a% tnot— be going up by a full half a% we would— be going up by a full half a% that would take— be going up by a full half a% that would take the base rate to 5. well.— that would take the base rate to 5. well. w-wee— that would take the base rate to 5. well, we've got— that would take the base rate to 5. well, we've got our man, liam nolltoon— 5. well, we've got our man, liam nolltoon ot— 5. well, we've got our man, liam nolltoon ot tne— 5. well, we've got our man, liam halligan at the bank of england . ont— halligan at the bank of england . ont wetl— halligan at the bank of england , and we'll hear— halligan at the bank of england , and we'll hear from the nonetony— , and we'll hear from the monetary committee , and we'll hear from the- monetary-committee on its monetary policy committee on its onolyete— monetary policy committee on its onolyete on— monetary policy committee on its analysis on where— monetary policy committee on its analysis on where the economy is neottno. — analysis on where the economy is neottno. -oleo- analysis on where the economy is heading. _also be- heading. but we'll also be oenoee—to- heading. but we'll also be across—to hear| heading. but we'll also be- across_to hear from across the country to hear from you— across the country to hear from yon—tntnt- across the country to hear from yon—tntnt tnel you on where you think the eonoy— you on where you think the eonoy te— you on where you think the

economy is heading . well, it's economy is heading. well, it's olneoty— economy is heading. well, it's olneooy teen— economy is heading. well, it's already been estimated the oenoeo— already been estimated the average annual— already been estimated the average annual mortgage nepoynente— average annual mortgage repayments have had to increase by neonly— repayments have had to increase by neonly amoe— repayments have had to increase by nearly £3,000 a— repayments have had to increase by nearly £3,000 a year because of by nearly £3,000 a year because ot tne— by nearly £3,000 a year because ot tne note— by nearly £3,000 a year because of the rate hikes— by nearly £3,000 a year because of the rate hikes so— by nearly £3,000 a year because of the rate hikes so far. now, tnoee— of the rate hikes so far. now, those attached— of the rate hikes so far. now, those attached to— of the rate hikes so far. now, those attached to the chancellor's- those attached to the chancellor's own advisory panel say chancellor's own advisory panel eoy o— chancellor's own advisory panel say a recession may be needed to try say a recession may be needed to tny to— say a recession may be needed to tny to etop— say a recession may be needed to try to stop inflation— say a recession may be needed to try to stop inflation in its toole— try to stop inflation in its tnoete. eo— try to stop inflation in its tracks. so do— try to stop inflation in its tracks. so do we really need enon— tracks. so do we really need enen potne— tracks. so do we really need such pain? and— tracks. so do we really need such pain? and for what gain? well.— such pain? and for what gain? well. let-e— such pain? and for what gain? well. let-e pnt— such pain? and for what gain? well, let's put that question to our economics— well, let's put that question to our economics and business ettton— our economics and business ettton lton — our economics and business editor liam halligan, who's at the editor liam halligan, who's at tne nont— editor liam halligan, who's at tne oont ot— editor liam halligan, who's at the bank of england for us. and lton.— the bank of england for us. and lton. tnte— the bank of england for us. and liam, this fierce— the bank of england for us. and liam, this fierce political tetote— liam, this fierce political debate now,— liam, this fierce political debate now, as well as running in debate now, as well as running tn tonten — debate now, as well as running in tandem with— debate now, as well as running in tandem with economic debate going— in tandem with economic debate going — in tandem with economic debate going tnot-e— in tandem with economic debate going on. ” g“. in tandem with economic debate going on. ”g“. . going on. that's right. it is the economy, stupid, as they say, mark. the economy now really dominating politics. i say that's going to be the case all the way until the next general election scheduled for the end of 2024. as you say , the end of 2024. as you say, average mortgage payments will go up, but only for those people who are coming to the end of their fixed rate deals, be they

five year, three year, two year deals over the coming months. they're the ones who on average will be paying about two and a half to £3,000 more in their combined monthly payments throughout the year. this is, of course, a very hotly contested political issue . labour are political issue. labour are trying to make hay out of it, saying that it's the mortgage tory penalty, the tory mortgage penalty, the tories of course even senior cabinet ministers are now starting to do the unthinkable , turning around and unthinkable, turning around and pointing the finger at the building behind me. the bank of england, the bank of england's monetary policy committee, that it to independent. it is meant to be independent. it be a political it is meant to be a political tool. it is meant to be a political tool . ethnocratic taking tool. ethnocratic taking decisions for the long term, taking decisions about interest rates to keep inflation down that politicians haven't got the guts to take. that's how the model works. that whole model , model works. that whole model, given that we're about to hear about the 13th successive interest rate rise from the bank of england in not much more than

18 months, but still inflation in the uk is higher than the eurozone, almost double that in in the united states . that bank of eurozone, almost double that in the united states . that bank of the united states. that bank of england model of independence is the united states. that bank of england model of independence is now, i would say in contention. now, i would say in contention. it is being talked about it is being talked about politically. it is now in play. of course, we have a monetary policy committee. it's not just the policy committee. it's not just tne eoennon— policy committee. it's not just the governor of— policy committee. it's not just the governor of the— i. i it's not just the governor of the bank, andrew notley— the governor of the bank, andrew notley .— the governor of the bank, andrew notley . wno— the governor of the bank, andrew bailey , who takes— the governor of the bank, andrew bailey , who takes this decision. bailey, who takes this decision. well— bailey, who takes this decision. well get— bailey, who takes this decision. we'll get there— bailey, who takes this decision. we'll get there thinking being neleoeet— we'll get there thinking being neleoeet o— we'll get there thinking being released a little— we'll get there thinking being released a little later as well. not— released a little later as well. not-tne— released a little later as well. but-the problem- released a little later as well. but the problem is , in but clearly, the problem is, in ottttton— but clearly, the problem is, in addition .the— but clearly, the problem is, in addition the headline rate of addition to the headline rate of tntlotton— addition to the headline rate of inflation, it's— addition to the headline rate of inflation, it's the— addition to the headline rate of inflation, it's the underlying note— inflation, it's the underlying note-te— inflation, it's the underlying rate - is attached - inflation, it's the underlying rate is attached to things rate which is attached to things like rate which is attached to things we wooe— rate which is attached to things like wage deals. _ rate which is attached to things like wage deals. and one wonders, you— like wage deals. and one wonders, you know , if there is wonders, you know, if there is potn— wonders, you know, if there is more pain coming today, will tnot— more pain coming today, will that-inflation— more pain coming today, will that-inflation in- more pain coming today, will that inflation in its that stop inflation in its toole— that stop inflation in its tnoete e— that stop inflation in its tracks ? just— that stop inflation in its tracks ? just while we're waiting tracks? just while we're waiting for tracks? just while we're waiting ton tnte— tracks? just while we're waiting for this decision— tracks? just while we're waiting for this decision in the next lew— for this decision in the next few minutes,— for this decision in the next few minutes, marks let's have a tent— few minutes, marks let's have a tntnt otoot— few minutes, marks let's have a think about some— few minutes, marks let's have a think about some of those nnnnenet— think about some of those numbers that— think about some of those numbers that came out yesterday. you numbers that came out yesterday. won one— numbers that came out yesterday. you and i discussed _ numbers that came out yesterday. you and idiscussed them - numbers that came out yesterday. you andldiscussed them at- you and i discussed them at length yesterday. inflation in may was still 8.7. prices 8.7% higher on average than may 2022. that was the same as in april.

and as you say, food price inflation was very high, still above 18% a year. and the thing that really spooked financial markets, the reason why we've had a spike in government borrowing costs over the last 24 hours since that those inflation numbers were released was as you say, mark, core inflation. this is inflation taking away energy, food prices and other really volatile items , those things volatile items, those things that are imported and so on. it's basic domestic underlying inflationary pressures cause by wage bargaining caused by domestic supply chain issues caused by quantitative easing. i would say over many years. and that core inflation mark between april and may, far from coming down or even staying the same as the headline rate of inflation did, it actually went up from 6.8 to 7.1, which shows that the shit“ 7.1, which shows that the uk has got an inflation problem 6.8 to 7.1, which shows that the uk has got an inflation problem . and that's why the nine . and that's why the nine economists and the monetary economists and the monetary policy committee and the policy committee and the building behind me, they've made building behind me, they've made their decision already. it will their decision already. it will

be announced in a few minutes, but they been extreme but they have been under extreme pressure the last two days pressure over the last two days while they've