love from barnsley. please wetome— love from barnsley. please welcome your— love from barnsley. please welcome your host, nigel farage. yes good— welcome your host, nigel farage. yes good evening.— welcome your host, nigel farage. yes good evening. william keejenyi. — yes good evening. william kedjanyi. brazier. farage mee— kedjanyi. brazier. farage eerege. ee— kedjanyi. brazier. farage farage. gb news. since the referendum— farage. gb news. since the referendum i've— farage. gb news. since the referendum i've come to find out what— referendum i've come to find out what ee— referendum i've come to find out what people— referendum i've come to find out what are people saying? have the government— what are people saying? have the government delivered and all of this government delivered and all of the en— government delivered and all of the on the— government delivered and all of the on the day— government delivered and all of this on the day when people's mortgagee— this on the day when people's mortgagee went— this on the day when people's mortgages went up? “mi; this on the day when people's mortgages went up? "wire; mortgages went up? there's a lot to among the very to talk about among the very plain of south plain speaking people of south yorkshire but yorkshire this evening. but before that, let's get before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . nigel, thank you. good evening to you. — . nigel, thank you. good evening to you. wen,— . nigel, thank you. good evening to you. well, the— nigel, thank you. good evening to you. well, the top story this heur— to you. well, the top story this hour from — to you. well, the top story this hour from the— to you. well, the top story this hour from the gb— to you. well, the top story this hour from the gb news room. the us hour from the gb news room. the us coastguard— hour from the gb news room. the us coastguard says— hour from the gb news room. the us coastguard says they have discovered— us coastguard says they have discovered a— us coastguard says they have discovered a debris field near the meme— discovered a debris field near the titanic in— discovered a debris field near the titanic in the— discovered a debris field near the titanic in the for search the— the titanic in the for search the hteehg— the titanic in the for search the missing titan submersible thet— the missing titan submersible thet wee— the missing titan submersible thet eh— the missing titan submersible that was on its— the missing titan submersible that was on its way to see the weeteee — that was on its way to see the weeteee h— that was on its way to see the wreckage in the— that was on its way to see the wreckage in the north atlantic, a wreckage in the north atlantic, e rehetetw— wreckage in the north atlantic, a remotely operated vehicle, we understand— a remotely operated vehicle, we understand ,— a remotely operated vehicle, we understand , has— a remotely operated vehicle, we understand , has made the understand, has made the theeewew— understand, has made the theeewew h— understand, has made the discovery in the last few hours. the— discovery in the last few hours. the information _ discovery in the last few hours. the information that it has is being— the information that it has is now being evaluated by experts. the— now being evaluated by experts. hht wehe— now being evaluated by experts. and we're expecting a news conference live _

and we're expecting a news conference live from the us coastguard— conference live from the us coastguard based in boston at shoe.— coastguard based in boston at 8:00. ht— coastguard based in boston at 8:00. uk time.— coastguard based in boston at 8:00. uk time. that will be live here— 8:00. uk time. that will be live here eh— 8:00. uk time. that will be live here en et— 8:00. uk time. that will be live here on gb news— 8:00. uk time. that will be live here on gb news in— 8:00. uk time. that will be live here on gb news in just under an how-e— here on gb news in just under an hew-e the,— here on gb news in just under an hour's time, five— here on gb news in just under an hour's time, five people missing hette— hour's time, five people missing hette thet— hour's time, five people missing inside that submersible that teet— inside that submersible that lost contact— inside that submersible that lost contact on— inside that submersible that lost contact on sunday. full tetette— lost contact on sunday. full tetette et— lost contact on sunday. full details at 8:00. _ lost contact on sunday. full details at 8:00. now, the other mah— details at 8:00. now, the other main news today— details at 8:00. now, the other main news today is that the bank of main news today is that the bank et thgteht— main news today is that the bank et thgteht hee— main news today is that the bank of england has increased the hteteet— of england has increased the interest rate _ of england has increased the interest rate by— of england has increased the interest rate by half a percentage— interest rate by half a percentage point to 5% today. that-e— percentage point to 5% today. hate the — percentage point to 5% today. that's the highest rate in 15 wette— that's the highest rate in 15 weete ee— that's the highest rate in 15 weete he the— that's the highest rate in 15 years as the bank tries to teette— years as the bank tries to tackle ongoing- years as the bank tries to tackle ongoing inflation. the tent-e— tackle ongoing inflation. the bank's governor,— tackle ongoing inflation. the bank's governor, andrew bailey, eewhe— bank's governor, andrew bailey, saying inflation— bank's governor, andrew bailey, saying inflation is— bank's governor, andrew bailey, saying inflation is still too high— saying inflation is still too htgh ent— saying inflation is still too high and has— saying inflation is still too high and has to be dealt with. the— high and has to be dealt with. and he— high and has to be dealt with. and he eett— high and has to be dealt with. and he said if— high and has to be dealt with. and he said if we— high and has to be dealt with. and he said if we don't raise tetee— and he said if we don't raise tetee ht— and he said if we don't raise rates now, it could be worse tater.— rates now, it could be worse hate. the— rates now, it could be worse later. this is— rates now, it could be worse later. this is the— rates now, it could be worse later. this is the 13th time in a later. this is the 13th time in e the— later. this is the 13th time in a row the bank— later. this is the 13th time in a row the bank has increased tee — a row the bank has increased rates. speaking— a row the bank has increased rates. speaking to warehouse wetetet— rates. speaking to warehouse wetetet h— rates. speaking to warehouse workers in kent— rates. speaking to warehouse workers in kent earlier on tetew— workers in kent earlier on tetew, tteht— workers in kent earlier on today, rishi sunak said halving httetteh— today, rishi sunak said halving inflation was— today, rishi sunak said halving inflation was still his top ehehtw— inflation was still his top ehehtw ,— inflation was still his top ehehtw , hut— inflation was still his top priority , but there was no easy priority, but there was no easy fix priority, but there was no easy the . — priority, but there was no easy the . teetthe— priority, but there was no easy fix . rooting out— priority, but there was no easy fix. rooting out inflation is not easy. it requires difficult decisions, doesn't happen overnight, but if we don't get on top of it, it would just get worse and it would last longer.

and that's not going to do anyone any favours. it's not going to be good for you and your families in the long run. and though it they'll and even though it means they'll have some difficult have to make some difficult decisions, that's the type of prime i am because prime minister i am because i want the right thing for want to do the right thing for you and families the you and your families in the long term. but the labour teeter,— long term. but the labour teeter, sh— long term. but the labour leader, sir keir— 01mg but the labour leader, sir keir starmer, said the— leader, sir keir starmer, said the government— leader, sir keir starmer, said the government is failing eeeete— the government is failing eeeete. ._ the government is failing people. i think was people. i think it was inevitable— people. i think it was inevitable all that the mortgage rate— inevitable all that the mortgage tetee wette— inevitable all that the mortgage tetee weutt 90— inevitable all that the mortgage rates would go up— inevitable all that the mortgage rates would go up but we rates would go up today, but we hete— rates would go up today, but we hewe-thht— rates would go up today, but we have-think about- rates would go up today, but we have think about all have to firstly think about all theee— have to firstly think about all theee-,— have to firstly think about all theee-, ett- have to firstly think about all those-, all those- those families, all those hehgege— those families, all those mortgage who are those families, all those- mortgage -who are going mortgage holders who are going to mortgage holders who are going te he— mortgage holders who are going te he teeth— mortgage holders who are going to be really struggling now in the htttte— to be really struggling now in the middle of— to be really struggling now in the middle of a— to be really struggling now in the middle of a cost of living new— the middle of a cost of living crisis. now their— the middle of a cost of living crisis. \ttith " 33 the middle of a cost of living crisis. \tith " 33 crisis. now their mortgage is going to go as well, and going to go up as well, and they're paying the price. they are paying the price for 13 years of economic failure under this , 20,000 railway this government, 20,000 railway workers are due to go on strike for three days in the month of july. the rmt union announcing tetew— july. the rmt union announcing tetew thet— july. the rmt union announcing today that industrial— the rmt union announcing today that industrial action wttt— today that industrial action wttt-eteee— today that industrial action will-place on- today that industrial action will place on the 20th, will take place on the 20th, zzht— will take place on the 20th, zzht ent— will take place on the 20th, 22nd and 29th— will take place on the 20th, 22nd and 29th of next month. the ethtee— 22nd and 29th of next month. the strikes coinciding— 22nd and 29th of next month. the strikes coinciding with major eeetthe— strikes coinciding with major sporting events,— strikes coinciding with major sporting events, the open and the hehee— sporting events, the open and the ashes, both— sporting events, the open and the ashes, both set to be etteetet— the ashes, both set to be etteetet .— the ashes, both set to be affected . and— the ashes, both set to be affected . and one other sporting

affected. and one other sporting occasion that— affected. and one other sporting occasion that took— affected. and one other sporting occasion that took place today, tewet— occasion that took place today, tewet heeet. — occasion that took place today, royal ascot. one _ occasion that took place today, royal ascot. one particular hetee— royal ascot. one particular hetee ete— royal ascot. one particular horse did rather— royal ascot. one particular horse did rather well , causing a horse did rather well, causing a bit horse did rather well, causing a htt et— horse did rather well, causing a htt et eh— horse did rather well, causing a bit of an upset— horse did rather well, causing a bit of an upset as— horse did rather well, causing a bit of an upset as well, winning the-stetee— bit of an upset as well, winning the-stetee et- bit of an upset as well, winning the-stakes at odds- bit of an upset as well, winning the stakes at odds of the norfolk stakes at odds of 150 the norfolk stakes at odds of tee te— the norfolk stakes at odds of tee te t— the norfolk stakes at odds of 150 to 1 valiant— the norfolk stakes at odds of 150 to 1 valiant force ridden by jockey— 150 to 1 valiant force ridden by jockey teee— 150 to 1 valiant force ridden by jockey teee twen— 150 to 1 valiant force ridden by jockey ross ryan became the teheeet— jockey ross ryan became the longest priced— jockey ross ryan became the longest priced winner in ascot teethe— longest priced winner in ascot teehe htetew— longest priced winner in ascot teehe htetew .— longest priced winner in ascot racing history . meanwhile, one racing history. meanwhile, one of racing history. meanwhile, one et the— racing history. meanwhile, one et the king— racing history. meanwhile, one of the king and— racing history. meanwhile, one of the king and queen's horses , of the king and queen's horses, heeett— of the king and queen's horses, heeett hem,— of the king and queen's horses, desert hero, won— of the king and queen's horses, desert hero, won a— of the king and queen's horses, desert hero, won a race today. it desert hero, won a race today. t e— desert hero, won a race today. tt the— desert hero, won a race today. it was the king— desert hero, won a race today. it was the king george. the tttth— it was the king george. the fifth stakes.— it was the king george. the fifth stakes. it's— it was the king george. the fifth stakes. it's a photo thteh— fifth stakes. it's a photo finish. and _ fifth stakes. it's a photo finish. and if- fifth stakes. it's a photo finish. and if you're watching on television,— finish. and if you're watching on television, you can see chettee— on television, you can see chettee eht— on television, you can see charles and camilla looking on eeetette— charles and camilla looking on eeetette ee— charles and camilla looking on ecstatic as-watch- charles and camilla looking on ecstatic as watch their 18 ecstatic as they watch their 18 to ecstatic as they watch their 18 te t— ecstatic as they watch their 18 to 1 thoroughbred— ecstatic as they watch their 18 to 1 thoroughbred claim victory . tee-te— to 1 thoroughbred claim victory . tee-re eh— to 1 thoroughbred claim victory .you're up.date_ to 1 thoroughbred claim victory . you're up date on tv online .you're up to date on tv online heht — .you're up to date on tv online heht tethe— .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and— .you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tune in app. te-e— dab+ radio and the tune in app. teehe wtth— dab+ radio and the tune in app. teehe wtth eh— dab+ radio and the tune in app. you're with gb news. back now to hethetew— you're with gb news. back now to hethetew tet— you're with gb news. back now to barnsley for farage _ you're with gb news. back now to barnsley for farage at large . barnsley for farage at large. us.— barnsley for farage at large. us. teteee— barnsley for farage at large. us. teteee et— barnsley for farage at large. us. farage at large . ' t: barnsley for farage at large. us. farage at large . ' “t: “tihi

barnsley for farage at large. us. farage at large . ' “t: “ti"ti us. farage at large. and here we are with a wildly tuc active audience and it will be tomorrow , seven years to the day. seven years to the , seven years to the day. seven weete te the tet— , seven years to the day. seven years to the day to— , seven years to the day. seven years to the day to a- “ seven years to the day to a result thet— years to the day to a result that shocked— years to the day to a result that shocked the country , that shocked the country, etehhet— that shocked the country, stunned the _ that shocked the country, stunned the international eehhehttw— stunned the international community, and i think brought me joy— community, and i think brought me more joy than— community, and i think brought me more joy than anybody else ethe— me more joy than anybody else alive because— me more joy than anybody else alive because i'd— me more joy than anybody else alive because i'd pretty much then— alive because i'd pretty much given up— alive because i'd pretty much given he 25— alive because i'd pretty much given up 25 years— alive because i'd pretty much given up 25 years of my adult thte— given up 25 years of my adult life because— given up 25 years of my adult life because i— given up 25 years of my adult life because i believed all the way— life because i believed all the way thteeeh— life because i believed all the way through that— life because i believed all the way through that we should be a eett—eetethhe— way through that we should be a self—governing nation . on and self—governing nation. on and teeth— self—governing nation. on and teehtte the— self—governing nation. on and teeette the the— self—governing nation. on and despite the big businesses and the teete— despite the big businesses and the trade unions— despite the big businesses and the trade unions and the party teetete— the trade unions and the party teetete ehe— the trade unions and the party leaders and the— the trade unions and the party leaders and the bbc and much of the heee— leaders and the bbc and much of the tee t— leaders and the bbc and much of the press, i normally expect a meter— the press, i normally expect a bigger reaction— the press, i normally expect a bigger reaction when i say bbc, but bigger reaction when i say bbc, hut hete— bigger reaction when i say bbc, but never mind. _ bigger reaction when i say bbc, but never mind. despite all of thet— but never mind. despite all of thet, the— but never mind. despite all of that, the people— but never mind. despite all of that, the people said, the hell wtth— that, the people said, the hell wtth yout— that, the people said, the hell wtth yout wehe— that, the people said, the hell with you, we're going to vote for independence. s so it was a greet— for independence. s so it was a greet tet— for independence. s so it was a greet tew .— for independence. s so it was a great day . trouble— for independence. s so it was a great day . trouble is , it took great day. trouble is, it took three— great day. trouble is, it took three ehe— great day. trouble is, it took three eht e— great day. trouble is, it took three and a half— great day. trouble is, it took three and a half years for us. heteettw— three and a half years for us. heteettw te— three and a half years for us. actually to leave _ three and a half years for us. actually to leave because westminster— actually to leave because westminster didn't really want it. westminster didn't really want t. the— westminster didn't really want t. the h— westminster didn't really want t. the th the— westminster didn't really want it. and in the end , and when the it. and in the end, and when the eteeterete— it. and in the end, and when the eteeterete h— it. and in the end, and when the electorate in 2019,— it. and in the end, and when the electorate in 2019, when having the— electorate in 2019, when having seen the conservative party get etheet— seen the conservative party get almost destroyed _ seen the conservative party get

almost destroyed in the european eteettehe— almost destroyed in the european eteettehe et— almost destroyed in the european elections of that— almost destroyed in the european elections of that year, when they— elections of that year, when they eeeeeret— elections of that year, when they appeared to have got the eeeee the— they appeared to have got the message, the problem was some in the eehhet— message, the problem was some in the cabinet who— message, the problem was some in the cabinet who did— message, the problem was some in the cabinet who did believe in hrettt— the cabinet who did believe in hrettt, het— the cabinet who did believe in brexit, but in— the cabinet who did believe in brexit, but in my— the cabinet who did believe in brexit, but in my view most ttth-t— brexit, but in my view most ttth-t vete— brexit, but in my view most didn't vote. and— brexit, but in my view most didn't vote. and i think whilst get— didn't vote. and i think whilst get eut— didn't vote. and i think whilst we've got out and we've reversed the etetee— we've got out and we've reversed the etetee gee,— we've got out and we've reversed the status quo, whilst we stand tetter— the status quo, whilst we stand tetter eh— the status quo, whilst we stand tetter eh the— the status quo, whilst we stand taller on the world stage, whttet— taller on the world stage, whttet eer— taller on the world stage, whilst our financial services hteetrw— whilst our financial services hteetrw te— whilst our financial services industry is now— whilst our financial services industry is now bigger than it teehtte— industry is now bigger than it was, despite all— industry is now bigger than it was, despite all of the scare etertee— was, despite all of the scare stories that— was, despite all of the scare stories that we— was, despite all of the scare stories that we had in the run up -— stories that we had in the run we . t— stories that we had in the run up . t thht— stories that we had in the run up . i think that— stories that we had in the run up . i think that folk in places up. i think that folk in places the— up. i think that folk in places like barnsley,— up. i think that folk in places like barnsley, which voted 68% to like barnsley, which voted 68% te teete— like barnsley, which voted 68% te teete t— like barnsley, which voted 68% to leave, i think— like barnsley, which voted 68% to leave, i think there were two big to leave, i think there were two htg reeeehe— to leave, i think there were two big reasons for— to leave, i think there were two big reasons for voting leave and they— big reasons for voting leave and they wee— big reasons for voting leave and they teth— big reasons for voting leave and they were both subsets of taking teet— they were both subsets of taking heet eehtret— they were both subsets of taking back control of— they were both subsets of taking back control of our— they were both subsets of taking back control of our country and twee.— back control of our country and tttee. the— back control of our country and our lives. the first— back control of our country and our lives. the first was our hertere— our lives. the first was our borders, the _ our lives. the first was our borders, the first was immigration. people had seen it rehhhg— immigration. people had seen it rehhhg et— immigration. people had seen it running at levels— immigration. people had seen it running at levels never seen hetere— running at levels never seen hetere h— running at levels never seen hetere th the— running at levels never seen before in the history of these tetente— before in the history of these islands. and— before in the history of these islands. and to— before in the history of these islands. and to think that even tetew— islands. and to think that even tetew eeteh— islands. and to think that even today, seven in— islands. and to think that even today, seven in full boatloads the— today, seven in full boatloads cross the english— today, seven in full boatloads cross the english channel, ehether— cross the english channel, another 350— cross the english channel, another 350 today and that legal htgretteh— another 350 today and that legal htgretteh te— another 350 today and that legal migration is now— another 350 today and that legal migration is now running at three— migration is now running at three thee— migration is now running at three times the— migration is now running at three times the level that it wheh— three times the level that it

was when we voted brexit, i thteh— was when we voted brexit, i thhh te— was when we voted brexit, i thhh te e— was when we voted brexit, i think, is a huge— was when we voted brexit, i think, is a huge disappointment . ahe— think, is a huge disappointment . the t— think, is a huge disappointment . the t thht— think, is a huge disappointment . and i think for— think, is a huge disappointment . and i think for those millions of . and i think for those millions et hen— . and i think for those millions et ehe— . and i think for those millions of men and women out there doing her— of men and women out there doing thetr ew— of men and women out there doing thetr thhg— of men and women out there doing their own thing, running their own businesses,— their own thing, running their own businesses, they expected reettetteettw— own businesses, they expected realistically for— own businesses, they expected realistically for the rules that thetr— realistically for the rules that run their lives— realistically for the rules that run their lives to— realistically for the rules that run their lives to become etheter— run their lives to become ethhter .— run their lives to become simpler . and— run their lives to become simpler. and you know what? run their lives to become simpler . and you know what? they simpler. and you know what? they ttth-t— simpler. and you know what? they ttth-t .— simpler. and you know what? they ttth-t . there— simpler. and you know what? they didn't . there are— simpler. and you know what? they didn't . there are-of- simpler. and you know what? they didn't . there are of us who didn't. there are many of us who teet— didn't. there are many of us who teet, trehtw— didn't. there are many of us who teet, trehtw .— didn't. there are many of us who feel, frankly , we,— didn't. there are many of us who feel, frankly , we, the tories, feel, frankly, we, the tories, hete — feel, frankly, we, the tories, have sabotaged _ feel, frankly, we, the tories, have sabotaged brexit. it let us all have sabotaged brexit. it let us ett tewh— have sabotaged brexit. it let us ett tewh tert— have sabotaged brexit. it let us all down very badly and will ettew— all down very badly and will ettew the— all down very badly and will allow the incoming labour government— allow the incoming labour government-tie- allow the incoming labour government tie us up closer government to tie us up closer to government to tie us up closer te tereheeh— government to tie us up closer to european-rules- government to tie us up closer to european-rules .- government to tie us up closer to european rules . so government to tie us up closer to european rules. so i am to european union rules. so i am teethg— to european union rules. so i am feeling disappointed seven years on. feeling disappointed seven years hettghteet— feeling disappointed seven years on. delighted. we— feeling disappointed seven years on. delighted. we did it, but theeeeehtett— on. delighted. we did it, but disappointed. well, it's a eerteet— disappointed. well, it's a perfect moment i think, to htreteee— perfect moment i think, to introduce miriam cates, conservative— introduce miriam cates, conservative member of rertteheht— conservative member of parliament for penistone and of course you've got— parliament for penistone and of course you've got a chunk of herhetew— course you've got a chunk of herhetew h— course you've got a chunk of barnsley in your— course you've got a chunk of barnsley in your constituency . barnsley in your constituency. trtrterh— barnsley in your constituency. trtrterh tre— barnsley in your constituency. miriam, we saw— barnsley in your constituency. miriam, we saw previously with htehette— miriam, we saw previously with thehette the— miriam, we saw previously with michelle the hands up in the reehte— michelle the hands up in the room. people are— michelle the hands up in the room. people are very , very room. people are very, very eteeeeehtet— room. people are very, very disappointed and 80 seat heterttw— disappointed and 80 seat majorityt you— disappointed and 80 seat majority, you part of this big red wett— majority, you part of this big red wall, these— majority, you part of this big red wall, these seats in many thet— red wall, these seats in many cases that have— red wall, these seats in many cases that have been labour for teete— cases that have been labour for weere ehe— cases that have been labour for years and boom,— cases that have been labour for years and boom, you're all in, wee-re— years and boom, you're all in, you're elected.— years and boom, you're all in, you're elected. what's gone

wrehge — you're elected. what's gone wrehge wett— you're elected. what's gone wrong? well i— you're elected. what's gone wrong? �*ftt�*tiee ce you're elected. what's gone wrong? ce wrong? well i hope you'll just let me start with the positives very quickly first, so we have delivered brexit, as you said, for long time. that was even for a long time. that was even thet— for a long time. that was even thet wee— for a long time. that was even thet h— for a long time. that was even that was in doubt.— for a long time. that was even that was in doubt. so- for a long time. that was even that was in doubt. so i- tit“; e that was even that was in doubt. so i think we need— that was in doubt. so i think we need te— that was in doubt. so i think we need te thht— that was in doubt. so i think we need to think back. we have eeteettw— need to think back. we have actually done— need to think back. we have actually done we have actually done it. we have technically— actually done it. we have technically-the - actually done it. we have technically the eu. i think technically left the eu. i think the narrative— technically left the eu. i think the narrative that— technically left the eu. i think the narrative that lot of the the narrative that a lot of the metre— the narrative that a lot of the media westminster pedals media in westminster pedals etert— about our current economic hrehterhe— about our current economic- erehterhe—hrettt problems being caused by brexit is problems being caused by brexit te teet— problems being caused by brexit te thet het— problems being caused by brexit is just not true. _ problems being caused by brexit is just not true. if— problems being caused by brexit is just not true. if you look at erehterhe— is just not true. if you look at erehterhe h— is just not true. if you look at problems in other— is just not true. if you look at problems in other western etree — problems in other western countries. - not i problems in other western. countries. -not true. countries. so that's not true. tee— countries. so that's not true. tee thew,— countries. so that's not true. you know, there— countries. so that's not true. you know, there are other reasons economic reasons for our economic erehteme— reasons for our economic problems. yeah, you're problems. but yeah, you're rtght. — problems. but yeah, you're rtght. -the- problems. but yeah, you're right. the freedoms, problems. but yeah, you're- right. -the freedoms, the right. i mean, the freedoms, the eeteretghtw — sovereignty, the control of immigration— immigration that brexit promised has-delivered.- immigration that brexit promised has delivered. and look has not been delivered. and look at has not been delivered. and look et—we— has not been delivered. and look et—tte ee- has not been delivered. and look at_we are actually. at immigration. we are actually in-immigration.- at immigration. we are actually in immigration. now, in control of immigration. now, the—we- in control of immigration. now, the—we hetel the problem is that we have ettewet— the problem is that we have ettewet ter— the problem is that we have allowed far too— the problem is that we have allowed far too much immigration heeeeee—tee- because we've set the bar too tew. — because we've set the bar too tew. -te— because we've set the bar too low. -is because - because we've set the bar too low. is because the low. and this is because the conservative— low. and this is because the conservative doesn't conservative party doesn't hettete— conservative party doesn't believe-mean, i conservative party doesn't. believe-mean, today, believe in it. i mean, today, philip hammond, you know, chancellor of the exchequer, former exchequer, former chancellor of exchequer, says bring inflation says the way to bring inflation down even more down is even more mass immigration is that the truth of it, the tory party supports it, that the tory party supports and with and the big businesses with them? support them? they actually support this? well, conservative this? well, the conservative party— this? well, the conservative rehw—ehereh- party is a broad church and there— party is a broad church and there-elements- party is a broad church and. there-elements-the there are elements within the party— there are elements within the party-support- there are elements within the party support that. party that do support that. tee-re— party that do support that. you're-clearly. party that do support that. you're-clearly the you're right. and clearly the

teeth— you're right. and clearly the treeeerw-hht- you're right. and clearly the treasury and the mechanism treasury does. and the mechanism that treasury does. and the mechanism thet the— treasury does. and the mechanism that the treasury— treasury does. and the mechanism that the treasury always reaches for when the labour market is ttght— for when the labour market is tight immigration. but that's tight is immigration. but that's a short term solution. i weetth-t— a short term solution. i wouldn't even- a short term solution. i wouldn't even it's wouldn't even say it's a eetetteh— wouldn't even say it's a solution, but— wouldn't even say it's a solution, but there are plenty of solution, but there are plenty et ethere— solution, but there are plenty et ethere et— solution, but there are plenty of others of us— solution, but there are plenty of others of us in— solution, but there are plenty of others of us in the party thet— of others of us in the party thet-eeehhg- of others of us in the party that pushing for much that are pushing for much ttghter— that are pushing for much ttghter-eh- that are pushing for much- tighter-on immigration tighter controls on immigration heeeeee—the - tighter controls on immigration because _the day,| because at the end of the day, if because at the end of the day, h we— because at the end of the day, h we teh-t— because at the end of the day, if we don't train— because at the end of the day, if we don't train up our own eeeete— if we don't train up our own peoplet tt— if we don't train up our own peoplet h we— if we don't train up our own people, if we don't invest in our own skills,— people, if we don't invest in our own skills, in- people, if we don't invest in our own skills, in own our own skills, in our own eeehtet— our own skills, in our own capital, we'll— our own skills, in our own capital, we'll be capital, we'll never be productive. _ capital, we'll never be productive. know, there capital, we'll never be- productive. .know, there is productive. you know, there is there— productive. you know, there is therele— productive. you know, there is therele ehert— productive. you know, there is there a short term in there is a short term pain in the— there is a short term pain in the teheer— there is a short term pain in the labour market. no the labour market. there's no teeht— the labour market. there's noj teeht—teeh doubt about that. but to keep reeehhg— doubt about that. but to keep reeehhg ter— doubt about that. but to keep reaching for immigration, to teee— reaching for immigration, to keep-not- reaching for immigration, to teee-helegreel reaching for immigration, to. keep - no, i agree with keep reaching. no, i agree with teheer— keep reaching. no, i agree with teheerlwett— keep reaching. no, i agree with labour-well. but— keep reaching. no, i agree with labour well. but you're labour as well. but you're rtght. — labour as well. but you're rtght. t— labour as well. but you're right. i mean,— labour as well. but you're right. i mean, haven't right. i mean, we haven't tethered— right. i mean, we haven't. delivered _there right. i mean, we haven't- delivered _there is delivered on that. but there is a delivered on that. but there is e-hew— delivered on that. but there is e-hew t— delivered on that. but there is a-now, i think- delivered on that. but there is a now, i think absolutely a move now, i think absolutely to a move now, i think absolutely te retee— a move now, i think absolutely te reteeh-— a move now, i think absolutely to raise-in terms- a move now, i think absolutely to raise in terms of who to raise the bar in terms of who eee-here. — to raise the bar in terms of who eee-here. .tt-e- to raise the bar in terms of who can-here. .it's not- can come here. but it's not going— can come here. but it's not gehglhe— can come here. but it's not going-be easv- - can come here. but it's not going be easy. “tihi tithi can come here. but it's not- goinglbe easy. there are. i'm going to be easy. there are. i'm really sorry, miriam. i heard all this in 2019 and you actually lowered the bar. you lowered bar. anybody on lowered the bar. anybody on minimum anywhere minimum wage from anywhere in the come into this the world can come into this country. i hear rishi country. and now i hear rishi saying, prime saying, he said in prime minister's questions yesterday, we're boats. is he we're stopping the boats. is he hell typekit typekit. i don't . hell typekit typekit. i don't. i agree with you. and i was one of i agree with you. and i was one et the— i agree with you. and i was one et the thre—

i agree with you. and i was one of the mps who _ i agree with you. and i was one of the mps who pushed for an ehehtheht— of the mps who pushed for an amendment to— of the mps who pushed for an amendment to the illegal trtgretteh— amendment to the illegal migration bill— amendment to the illegal migration bill to allow the home etrtee— migration bill to allow the home etrtee te— migration bill to allow the home office to ignore— migration bill to allow the home office to ignore these section 35 office to ignore these section es-trerh — office to ignore these section 35 from european 35 notices from the european eeehe— 35 notices from the european courts-others- 35 notices from the european courts-others in- courts with others in parliament. - courts with others in parliament. i'm pushing for ttghter— parliament. i'm pushing for- tighter—immigration. tighter controls on immigration. i tighter controls on immigration. t—thew-he i know that you know, that's no eteeeelthe— i know that you know, that's no eteeeelthe petty— i know that you know, that's no excuse the party as a whole. excuse for the party as a whole. het— excuse for the party as a whole. hut-ere— excuse for the party as a whole. hut-ere-ere- excuse for the party as a whole. but - are - are people i but there are there are people wtthh— but there are there are people wtthh the— but there are there are people within the party— but there are there are people within the party who absolutely eethewtetge— within the party who absolutely eethewtetge t— within the party who absolutely acknowledge i understand that and acknowledge i understand that ehe—ter— acknowledge i understand that ehe—ter-ti and are pushing for it. no, i get—weteh- and are pushing for it. no, i get—weteh tt- and are pushing for it. no, i get-watch it veryl get that and i watch it very carefully. but you're in a minority. why should i mean, assuming elections assuming the elections next october or whenever going october or whenever it's going to people vote to be, why should people vote conservative time? conservative next time? well i think right now is a good think right now that is a good question. we've got a lot of wett— question. we've got a lot of wertlte— question. we've got a lot of workldo- n0,— question. we've got a lot of work-do. no, i— question. we've got a lot of work-do. no, i agree- : “tit“ we've got a lot of work do. no, i agree that the work to do. no, i agree that the tehehte— work to do. no, i agree that the demands-were— work to do. no, i agree that the demands-were put- work to do. no, i agree that the demands were put on us in demands that were put on us in see,— demands that were put on us in tore-reeeh— demands that were put on us in 2019,-reason that- demands that were put on us in 2019, reason that people 2019, the reason that people tetet— 2019, the reason that people tetet ter— 2019, the reason that people tetet her he— 2019, the reason that people voted for us in— 2019, the reason that people voted for us in 2019 voted for you— voted for us in 2019 voted for you eertter— voted for us in 2019 voted for you earlier-that- voted for us in 2019 voted for you earlier that year, voted you earlier on that year, voted for you earlier on that year, voted her-tee— you earlier on that year, voted her-tee-thet- you earlier on that year, voted. for-you-that demand for brexit. you know that demand for brexit. you know that demand her—et— for brexit. you know that demand ter—et eeeherhw- for brexit. you know that demand for—of economy that. for a new type of economy that wette— for a new type of economy that works—barnsleyl works for places like barnsley thet— works for places like barnsley thet-ther- works for places like barnsley that-their indust- works for places like barnsley that their indust core that have lost their indust core heeeeee— that have lost their indust core heeeeee et— that have lost their indust core because of the— that have lost their indust core because of the economic retetetteh— because of the economic revolution we've seen over 30 teete— revolution we've seen over 30 weere eeeete— revolution we've seen over 30 years people voted years people that voted for where— years people that voted fori cultural—didn't cultural security that didn't the— cultural security that didn't like—brusselsl cultural security that didn't. like—brussels and like the way that brussels and teeth,— like the way that brussels and frankly, westminster have pushed tteetegtee— frankly, westminster have pushed ideologies-people— frankly, westminster have pushed ideologies people that most ideologies on people that most eeehte— ideologies on people that most eeeete-egree— ideologies on people that most people agree with, that people don't agree with, that teheht— people don't agree with, that teheht te— people don't agree with, that demand is still— people don't agree with, that demand is still there. you know, we-te-het— demand is still there. you know, we-te-rhet tt— demand is still there. you know, we've met it partially by we've met met it partially by tettterhg—

we've met met it partially by delivering standing delivering brexit, by standing up delivering brexit, by standing up-0f_ delivering brexit, by standing ee-et theee- delivering brexit, by standing up of these issues. but up on some of these issues. but i up on some of these issues. but t egree— up on some of these issues. but t egree we— up on some of these issues. but i agree we haven't— up on some of these issues. but i agree we haven't fully delivered— i agree we haven't fully delivered it.— i agree we haven't fully delivered it. that is the ehettehge— delivered it. that is the challenge for- delivered it. that is the challenge for us. delivered it. that is the- challenge for us. that's a very frank, honest answer and it really, day. really, really is tough day. interest rates up half a% anybody with mortgages, it's really, and i'm really, really hard. and i'm going into with going to drill into that with liam halligan moment. so liam halligan in a moment. so i think, you know, tough times are coming for the economy, but but where you've made a name for yourself in your short time as a member of parliament is you've stood up very strongly on 1 or 2 issues. and what i want to pick up on, i was astonished when i heard the audio recording of a 13 year old girl in a school in east sussex when another kid had identified and the 13 identified as a cat. and the 13 year says she have lost year old says she must have lost her and the teacher her mind and the teacher threatening her, saying, well, maybe you should and go maybe you should leave. and go to school. that that to another school. now that that trans ideology. et cetera . trans ideology. et cetera. miriam, you've been strongly outspoken . just give us a couple outspoken. just give us a couple of minutes where you stand on this. well, i mean, it's a hugely complex issue, but i think it's just extraordinary how in probably fewer than ten years we've gone from, you know

, everybody agreeing that , almost everybody agreeing that there only two sexes. you there are only two sexes. you are or female, boys there are only two sexes. you are-or female, boys or. are male or female, boys or gtrte— are male or female, boys or gtrte. tee— are male or female, boys or girls. you-that's- are male or female, boys or girls. you that's pretty girls. you know, that's pretty reeeh— girls. you know, that's pretty reeeh-et— girls. you know, that's pretty rteeh-er tt- girls. you know, that's pretty much -of it to - girls. you know, that's pretty much of it to this kind much the end of it to this kind of much the end of it to this kind et rehheht— much the end of it to this kind of rampant ideology that is now so of rampant ideology that is now ee ehhettet— of rampant ideology that is now so embedded in— of rampant ideology that is now so embedded in schools we so embedded in schools that we thht— so embedded in schools that we thhtlteeet— so embedded in schools that we think-least 80%_ so embedded in schools that we think least 80% schools think at least 80% of schools now-children— think at least 80% of schools now children have a now have children who have a trehe— now have children who have a trans-non—binary- now have children who have a trans non—binary or whatever trans or non—binary or whatever wee—ttehtttw- you want to call it, identity ehe—eteerwl you want to call it, identity- and_clearly some and with teachers, clearly some heretthtw— and with teachers, clearly some incredibly—don't. incredibly confused and don't thew— incredibly confused and don't thew-te— incredibly confused and don't know-do, but- incredibly confused and don't know do, but some know what to do, but some eteerw— know what to do, but some eteeh-thte- know what to do, but some clearly this ideology. clearly pushing this ideology. it's—confused.- clearly pushing this ideology. it's—confused. i it's become so confused. and i thht— it's become so confused. and i think unfortunately , the think unfortunately, the government— think unfortunately, the government has not caught up wtth— with this quick enough. and teeth— with this quick enough. and really-answer- with this quick enough. and really-answer is. with this quick enough. and really answer is to really the only answer is to pretent— really the only answer is to prevent-from - really the only answer is to prevent from doing really the only answer is to- prevent-from doing this, prevent schools from doing this, to , prevent schools from doing this, tel teeh— prevent schools from doing this, tel teeh we— prevent schools from doing this, to , look, we believe in to say, look, we believe in htetegteet— to say, look, we believe in biological sex.— to say, look, we believe in biological sex. that's the etttehee — biological sex. that's the- evidence. _ absolutely evidence. we should absolutely be evidence. we should absolutely he—ehtttrehl be compassionate to children who hreeeht— be compassionate to children who present—difficulties- be compassionate to children who presfind difficulties be compassionate to children who presfind the difficulties be compassionate to children who presfind the best difficulties be compassionate to children who presfind the best dif'forward and find the best way forward for and find the best way forward her there.— and find the best way forward for them. but— and find the best way forward for them. but that does not hetete— for them. but that does not include pretending that girls can become boys and that there teh-t— can become boys and that there isn'tldifference_ can become boys and that there isn'tldifference-thel isn't a difference between the —eeeete he- isn't a difference between thei sexes. _to be very sexes. and we have to be very eteer— sexes. and we have to be very eteerlthte. — sexes. and we have to be very clear-this. and— sexes. and we have to be very clear this. and think you clear on this. and i think you thew,— clear on this. and i think you thew-ehe— clear on this. and i think you know,-one thing- clear on this. and i think you know, one thing for adults know, it's one thing for adults to know, it's one thing for adults te teth— know, it's one thing for adults to talk about— know, it's one thing for adults to talk about this— know, it's one thing for adults to talk about this and dress how they— to talk about this and dress how they went.— to talk about this and dress how they went. et— to talk about this and dress how they want. of course, in a free eeehtrw— they want. of course, in a free eeehtrw-tt-e— they want. of course, in a free eeehtrwltt-e tert— they want. of course, in a free country, it's very different country, but it's very different when— country, but it's very different when wee-re— country, but it's very different when you're dealing with ehtttreh— when you're dealing with children on children who absolutely rely on the—te- children who absolutely rely on the—te tett- the adults in charge to tell them — the adults in charge to tell them the— the adults in charge to tell them the truth.— the adults in charge to tell them the truth. and we've got to eteht— them the truth. and we've got to eteht-thet. — them the truth. and we've got to stand-that. how-

them the truth. and we've got to stand that. ti“ stand up for that. how much ettee— stand up for that. how much abuse online do get from the abuse online do you get from the left things like left for saying things like this? well, a fair bit. i joined twitter a week— this? well, a fair bit. i joined twitter a week ago,- this? well, a fair bit. i joined twitter a week ago, so- 57’ . i ijoined twitter a week ago, so i'll £7 . i ijoined twitter a week ago, so i'll keep you— twitter a week ago, so i'll keep you- _ twitter a week ago, so i'll keep wee- het— twitter a week ago, so i'll keep wee- hut thet-e- twitter a week ago, so i'll keep you- but that's a- twitter a week ago, so i'll keep you- but that's a veryi you posted. but that's a very brave to do. but i'm brave thing to do. but i'm actually brave thing to do. but i'm eeteettw get— brave thing to do. but i'm actually get far— brave thing to do. but i'm actually get far less- “g t:tit but i'm actually get far less abuse than the werhhe— actually get far less abuse than the eh— actually get far less abuse than the women on the— actually get far less abuse than the women on the left. so people like the women on the left. so people the teete— the women on the left. so people like rosie duffield labour mp who's mine, i think who's a friend of mine, i think people expect conservatives to say things, say conservative things, so probably i get less pushback than the left, but than than women on the left, but they absolutely they certainly get absolutely appalling abuse and attack for it brave. they it and are very brave. they really do. and— it and are very brave. they really do. and for- it and are very brave. they really do. and for that- really do. and for that eertteeter— really do. and for that- particular—parliament particular member of parliament for particular member of parliament ter cehtertwh— particular member of parliament for canterbury had— particular member of parliament for canterbury had to attend thetr— for canterbury had to attend thetr ew— for canterbury had to attend their own party— for canterbury had to attend their own party conference with eeeerttw. — their own party conference with eeeerttw. ite — their own party conference with eeeerttwlte eew— their own party conference with security.-to say, i- their own party conference with security. to say, i think the well, i have to say, i think the heterttw— well, i have to say, i think the heterttw et— well, i have to say, i think the majority of parents are increasingly- majority of parents are increasingly alarmed at what her— increasingly alarmed at what thet-ere— increasingly alarmed at what their-are being- increasingly alarmed at whati their-are being-in their kids are being taught in eeheete— their kids are being taught in schools. and— their kids are being taught in schools. and think lockdown schools. and i think lockdown hreeght— schools. and i think lockdown brought.home_ schools. and i think lockdown brought home because brought it home to us because eeetehw—wee- brought it home to us because suddenly—was on. brought it home to us because suddenly was on the suddenly the laptop was on the htteheh— suddenly the laptop was on the htteheh-eht— suddenly the laptop was on the kitchen-and they- suddenly the laptop was on the kitchen and they realise kitchen table and they realise eeeet— kitchen table and they realise eased-ideology- eased this ideology that was hehg—eer- eased this ideology that was being—our kids. eased this ideology that was. being—our kids final being pushed on our kids final theeght— being pushed on our kids final thought,-what's- being pushed on our kids final thought, what's been thought, miriam. what's it been like thought, miriam. what's it been the-eh— thought, miriam. what's it been the-eh thh— thought, miriam. what's it been like an mp different to like being an mp different to hew— like being an mp different to hew t— like being an mp different to how i imagined— like being an mp different to how i imagined much more. i how i imagined much more. it's very— how i imagined much more. it's very thtereetthg.— how i imagined much more. it's very interesting. you— how i imagined much more. it's very interesting. you get- how i imagined much more. it's very interesting. you get to meet brilliant people . that's meet brilliant people. that's the best part of it. hugely demanding . and i think there's demanding. and i think there's constant sense that you can never but you know,

never do enough. but you know, you just have to take it day by day. i'm enjoying it. and what will do after after the next will you do after after the next election? well, that depends on my election? well, that depends on thy—tehe.- election? well, that depends onj hw—cetee. theh my voters. miriam cates, thank you indeed. thank you you very much indeed. thank you for you very much indeed. thank you her tehhg— you very much indeed. thank you her tehhg ee— you very much indeed. thank you tertehhg h— you very much indeed. thank you for joining us. in a— trig ti“ 3: thank you for joining us. in a moment. trig ti.“ 3: thank you for joining us. in a moment. in forjoining us. in a moment. in a forjoining us. in a moment. in e t tht— forjoining us. in a moment. in a moment, i'll be— forjoining us. in a moment. in a moment, i'll be joined by liam hetttgeh— a moment, i'll be joined by liam hetttgeh ehe— a moment, i'll be joined by liam halligan and we— a moment, i'll be joined by liam halligan and we will talk about httetteh. — halligan and we will talk about inflation. we'll— halligan and we will talk about inflation. we'll talk about htereet— inflation. we'll talk about interest rate _ inflation. we'll talk about interest rate rises. we'll talk ehert— interest rate rises. we'll talk eheet hew— interest rate rises. we'll talk about how completely and utterly eeeeet— about how completely and utterly useless andrew— about how completely and utterly useless andrew bailey is the eeterher et— useless andrew bailey is the governor of the _ useless andrew bailey is the governor of the bank of england . ahe— governor of the bank of england . the t— governor of the bank of england .hht t teeth.— governor of the bank of england . and i really, really do mean it . and i really, really do mean tt .— . and i really, really do mean tt . t— . and i really, really do mean tt . t thhh— . and i really, really do mean it . i think it— . and i really, really do mean it . i think it really . and i really, really do mean it. i think it really is time we tehhet— it. i think it really is time we turned the— it. i think it really is time we dumped the dud— it. i think it really is time we dumped the dud in the bank of thgteht. — dumped the dud in the bank of thgteht. het— dumped the dud in the bank of england. but in— dumped the dud in the bank of england. but in a— dumped the dud in the bank of england. but in a moment, i'll teth— england. but in a moment, i'll tett vou— england. but in a moment, i'll tett you why— england. but in a moment, i'll tell you why that— england. but in a moment, i'll tell you why that may be a bit more difficult— tell you why that may be a bit more difficult than it should

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my concerns and that folks, is why— my concerns and that folks, is why vee— my concerns and that folks, is why vee eehthg— my concerns and that folks, is why you sending in emails , urls why you sending in emails, urls of why you sending in emails, urls et thhge— why you sending in emails, urls et thhge vee— why you sending in emails, urls of things you know— why you sending in emails, urls of things you know of what you h— of things you know of what you th veer— of things you know of what you see in your area— of things you know of what you see in your area or— of things you know of what you see in your area or elsewhere. we— see in your area or elsewhere. the ehe— see in your area or elsewhere. we can use on this- see in your area or elsewhere. we can use on this show and ethere— we can use on this show and ethere eh— we can use on this show and ethere eh eh— we can use on this show and others on gb news to get real ehenge— others on gb news to get real ehehge. se— others on gb news to get real change. so thank— others on gb news to get real change. so thank you for all of you— change. so thank you for all of wee . — change. so thank you for all of yet . hew— change. so thank you for all of yet . hew .— change. so thank you for all of you. now. liam— change. so thank you for all of you . \ttith liam halligan, change. so thank you for all of you. \tith liam halligan, gb change. so thank you for all of you . \tith liam halligan, gb news you. now. liam halligan, gb news economics editor— you. now. liam halligan, gb news economics editor who's— you. \tith liam halligan, gb news economics editor who's not been off economics editor who's not been ett eer— economics editor who's not been ett eereehe— economics editor who's not been off our screens all— economics editor who's not been off our screens all week . off our screens all week. httetteh— off our screens all week. inflation is— off our screens all week. inflation is worse than erettetet. — inflation is worse than predicted. interest rates have gehe— predicted. interest rates have gene we— predicted. interest rates have gene we hw— predicted. interest rates have gone ”p by half_ predicted. interest rates have gone up by half a% today. is it thet— gone up by half a% today. is it thet thew— gone up by half a% today. is it that they have— gone up by half a% today. is it that they have to _ gone up by half a% today. is it that they have to force us into a recession to— that they have to force us into a recession to get— that they have to force us into a recession to get inflation tewhe— a recession to get inflation tewhe wett— a recession to get inflation down? well, that certainly seems like down? well, that certainly seems the tt— down? well, that certainly seems the tt te— down? well, that certainly seems the tt te e— down? well, that certainly seems like it to a lot— down? well, that certainly seems like it to a lot of— down? well, that certainly seems like it to a lot of ordinary eeeete— like it to a lot of ordinary eeeete whe— like it to a lot of ordinary people who are- like it to a lot of ordinary people who are facing much, much htgher— people who are facing much, much htgher hertgege— people who are facing much, much higher mortgage payments in in the rhehthe— higher mortgage payments in in the months to— higher mortgage payments in in the months to come. i the months to come. it was a where— the months to come. it was a surprise when inflation yesterday , nigel, you and yesterday, nigel, you and i talked about it stayed at 8.7% in may. everyone thought it would come down, but it stayed there. and it was a surprise today when the bank of england raised rates not by a quarter of a percentage point, but by a

half of a percentage point from 4.5 to 5. and since then, the money markets are pricing in. the interest rates could go to 6% at the bank of england , and 6% at the bank of england, and that would push up mortgage rates to seven, 8% and more . rates to seven, 8% and more. and all of this unforced seen by the eeterher— and all of this unforced seen by the governor of— and all of this unforced seen by the governor of the bank of thgteht. — the governor of the bank of england. well— the governor of the bank of england. well andrew bailey, he-e— england. well andrew bailey, he get— england. well andrew bailey, he get e— england. well andrew bailey, he's got a tough— england. well andrew bailey, he's got a tough job, but he hete— he's got a tough job, but he hete hte— he's got a tough job, but he hete hte teh— he's got a tough job, but he made his job a— he's got a tough job, but he made his job a lot tougher heeeeee— made his job a lot tougher heeeeee h— made his job a lot tougher because in 2020 and 2021, when eeeete— because in 2020 and 2021, when eeeete the— because in 2020 and 2021, when eeeete the he— because in 2020 and 2021, when people like me and— because in 2020 and 2021, when people like me and i know you as wett— people like me and i know you as wet. we— people like me and i know you as wet. we wee— people like me and i know you as well, we were warning, even theegh— well, we were warning, even though inflation— well, we were warning, even though inflation is low, there's going— though inflation is low, there's gehg te— though inflation is low, there's gehg te he— though inflation is low, there's gehg te he e— though inflation is low, there's gehg te he e htg— though inflation is low, there's going to be a big inflation eerge— going to be a big inflation surge because— going to be a big inflation surge because when lockdown thte— surge because when lockdown tttte vet-re — surge because when lockdown lifts, you're going to have a wett— lifts, you're going to have a wett et— lifts, you're going to have a wall of demand— lifts, you're going to have a wall of demand hitting an eeeherhv— wall of demand hitting an economy that's- wall of demand hitting an economy that's been shuttered ehe— economy that's been shuttered eht te— economy that's been shuttered end he gehg— economy that's been shuttered end he gehg te— economy that's been shuttered and is going to struggle to get eeeh— and is going to struggle to get heeh eh— and is going to struggle to get heeh he te— and is going to struggle to get back up to speed. ' “t3 back up to speed. and the bank of england , the establishment, of england, the establishment, they didn't want to hear about it. fine, old boy. it's it. it'll be fine, old boy. it's transitory. telling transitory. they kept telling us. had the big us. then we had the big inflation, which everyone in this across this room, everyone across the country when they go country is feeling when they go to the shops and they get their groceries for their family. when they their cars. so

they fill up their cars. so inflation high in the inflation is still high in the uk. we're almost an outlier now . nigel in the even in the eurozone, your favourite part of the world, inflation is 6. and in the us it's 4. here it's 8.7. so and stubbornly high are the good people of barnsley and elsewhere are paying for the incompetence of the governor of the bank of england. i think they're certainly paying for the groupthink at the bank of england because the bank of england because the bank of england appoints nine economists on a sort of rotating schedule and look who they are. the monetary policy committee. they're pretty much all appointed by the treasury. you've got to be a nice show . you've got to be a nice show. shiny, happy groupthink , key, shiny, happy groupthink, key, respectable , toilet trained respectable, toilet trained economist. you can't be you can't be an out of the box thinker . you can't be an out of the box thinker. you can't be. and they're remainers. liam you can't be somebody. nigel who thinks that the idea of expanding the money supply massively, as they have done through quantitative easing, as we must call it, money printing has been called during history

that might actually generate inflation. i've been talking about that in my telegraph columns for years and years and years. of other economists, years. so of other economists, people like us, the undesirables, the beyond the pales , we never invited to pales, we never get invited to be on the monetary policy committee. two people, andrew bailey andrew bailey was appointed . it needed a lever to appointed. it needed a lever to be appointed. it needed a lever to he eeeehtet— appointed. it needed a lever to he eeeehtet .— appointed. it needed a lever to be appointed . we— “tit3 it needed a lever to be appointed . we were becoming be appointed. we were becoming eteeh— be appointed. we were becoming brexit—needed- brexit britain. we needed eehehetv— somebody actually believed in it. somebody actually believed in t. .tthe— somebody actually believed in t. the te— somebody actually believed in it.-time to sack- somebody actually believed in it. time to sack the it. is it time to sack the eeterher— it. is it time to sack the governor? well you know what? if governor? well you know what? tt wee — governor? well you know what? tt wee eeeh— governor? well you know what? rt you eeeh the— governor? well you know what? if you sack the governor- governor? well you know what? if you sack the governor in- governor? well you know what? if you sack the governor in the middle of what is pretty much a crisis on money markets , as crisis now on money markets, as investors trying to decide investors are trying to decide if this move by the bank of england, which is a shock move, as in this room knows, as everyone in this room knows, is the bank of england asserting itself and getting its arms around inflation, climbing on top of the problem? or is it a cry for help? is it a panic move? the money markets still haven't decided yet on government debt are going up and down all over the place. there's not a settled view, in my view . not a settled view, in my view. if you sack the bank of england governor now, if you change horses in the middle of the

race, it could go wrong. you could cause even more problems. you know, andrew bailey is not sam allardyce . he's not going to sam allardyce. he's not going to stop us being relegated . and stop us being relegated. and maybe for a week it it; “g q and maybe for a week it would. i'd get— maybe for a week it would. i'd get-et— maybe for a week it would. i'd getlet htrh. — maybe for a week it would. i'd getlet htrh. t— maybe for a week it would. i'd get-of him. i-the- maybe for a week it would. i'd get of him. i the people get rid of him. i bet the people of get rid of him. i bet the people et-weett— get rid of him. i bet the people et-weett get- get rid of him. i bet the people of-would get rid- get rid of him. i bet the people of would get rid of him of barnsley would get rid of him -_9et_ of barnsley would get rid of him .—get rte— of barnsley would get rid of him .—get rtt et- of barnsley would get rid of him ._get rid of him- . but we can't get rid of him heeeeee— . but we can't get rid of him heeeeee the— . but we can't get rid of him because the legislation that eerteh—hteeel because the legislation that. gordon _ place says gordon brown put in place says he-ehtv— gordon brown put in place says he-ehtv he— gordon brown put in place says he only be removed by the he can only be removed by the eeeh— he can only be removed by the eeert et— he can only be removed by the eeert et the— he can only be removed by the court of the bank— he can only be removed by the court of the bank of england if he-e— court of the bank of england if he hteeet— court of the bank of england if he's missed several meetings or he-e— he's missed several meetings or he eeteettv— he's missed several meetings or he's actually physically, rhehtettv— he's actually physically, mentally unfit to do the job. so there— mentally unfit to do the job. so there he— mentally unfit to do the job. so there he te— mentally unfit to do the job. so there he is, cushioned in his job,— there he is, cushioned in his jobt vee— there he is, cushioned in his jobt vet thew.— there he is, cushioned in his job, you know, over half £1 htttteh— job, you know, over half £1 htttteh e— job, you know, over half £1 million a year— job, you know, over half £1 million a year and a total incompetent.— million a year and a total incompetent. the cost of living. there— incompetent. the cost of living. tterh heehte— incompetent. the cost of living. tterh heeete save— incompetent. the cost of living. liam people say, well, you liam people say, oh, well, you thew.— liam people say, oh, well, you know, . barnsley _ liam people say, oh, well, you know, barnsley prices know, in barnsley house prices are know, in barnsley house prices ee- wegee e- know, in barnsley house prices are , wages are a bit are cheaper, wages are a bit twe— are cheaper, wages are a bit twe et— are cheaper, wages are a bit lower. of course— are cheaper, wages are a bit lower. of course .- are cheaper, wages are a bit lower. of course . but the lower. of course. but the teeth— lower. of course. but the reetttv te— lower. of course. but the reality is in— lower. of course. but the reality is in barnsley they etttt— reality is in barnsley they etttt eew— reality is in barnsley they etttt grew the— reality is in barnsley they still pay the same car tax. they etttt— still pay the same car tax. they etttt eew— still pay the same car tax. they etttt grew the— still pay the same car tax. they still pay the same— still pay the same car tax. they still pay the same car insurance,— still pay the same car insurance, they still pay the same electricity— insurance, they still pay the same electricity bills as people thhg— same electricity bills as people tttthg h— same electricity bills as people living in surrey— same electricity bills as people living in surrey or— same electricity bills as people living in surrey or cheshire. i thte— living in surrey or cheshire. i mean, this for— living in surrey or cheshire. i mean, this for people in areas the— mean, this for people in areas the the— mean, this for people in areas like this, this— mean, this for people in areas like this, this mortgage hike is teet— like this, this mortgage hike is reet. teh-t— like this, this mortgage hike is real, isn't it?— like this, this mortgage hike is real, isn't it? it— like this, this mortgage hike is real, isn't it? it is. i real, isn't it? it is. it is het— real, isn't it? it is. it is real indeed. and you know, the institute for fiscal studies ,

institute for fiscal studies, which is an independent body, they're saying that the increment, the increase, you know, just the extra bit, you're paying know, just the extra bit, you're paying your mortgage each month. if add it up over the year, if you add it up over the year, those people coming off these fixed rate deals, the 5—3 and two year fixes that are now unwinding during a period from 2017 when rates were ultra low and they started going up massively from beginning massively from the beginning of 2020 to the average increment on mortgage payments is going to be something like two grand a year, even two and a half grand a year for any family in any part of the country that is a big hit in some parts of the country. that's a big slug of the household income. and that's why i do think the government's got to act tomorrow morning. i'll be hotfooting it to downing street. i'll be talking to the chancellor. there's going to be an emergency seminar between the chancellor and mortgage providers. i think mortgage providers. i think mortgage providers in an age of social media, they're going to find it really hard to start repossessing homes, to start evicting people. people will rebel, will start, you

rebel, people will start, you know, phone filming on their phones, their mates being chucked out of their houses, massive pr issues. i think the mortgage providers are going to have to be forced to make home loans longer to move us from repayment mortgages to interest only mortgages give us repayment holidays in order to try and get us through this period when interest rates will none of this interest rates will none of this in the short term is going to make life easier, is it? no, it isn't. this is we are in the most serious economic situation in this country since the 2008 financial crisis. that's where we now. and the fact that we are now. and the fact that i haven't been home for four days really indicative of that. really is indicative of that. i don't think it is the 2008 financial crisis. i don't think our banks are going to collapse because of the weight of debt. but are people in but there are some people in this particularly this country, particularly people in their 30s and their 40s, trying to raise families people in their 30s and their 40s, tough, to raise families people in their 30s and their 40s, tough, who've families people in their 30s and their 40s, tough, who've had ilies people in their 30s and their 40s, tough, who've had ilieextend very tough, who've had to extend themselves to buy just a decent house. we know how difficult it is our kids on the is to get our kids on the housing ladder these i do housing ladder these days. i do think a lot of them are going to suffer it's going to have

suffer and it's going to have massive implications, massive political implications, particularly for the conservative . a couple of conservative party. a couple of rhhetee— conservative party. a couple of rhhetee wete— conservative party. a couple of minutes we've got— conservative party. a couple of minutes we've got left.- a couple of minutes we've got left. i want to minutes we've got left. i want te hete— minutes we've got left. i want te hete e— minutes we've got left. i want to have a quick— minutes we've got left. i want to have a quick look at rishi's. thte— to have a quick look at rishi's. the etetgee— to have a quick look at rishi's. the etetgee ee— to have a quick look at rishi's. five pledges as the late bruce terevth— five pledges as the late bruce forsyth would _ five pledges as the late bruce forsyth would have said, didn't helwette— forsyth would have said, didn't helwette he— forsyth would have said, didn't he.well? no no,— forsyth would have said, didn't he well? no no, no. let's he do well? no no, no. let's hete— he do well? no no, no. let's hete e— he do well? no no, no. let's hete e teet— he do well? no no, no. let's have a look at— he do well? no no, no. let's have a look at the old scoreboard— have a look at the old scoreboard is- have a look at the old scoreboard is what he said. thet— scoreboard is what he said. ttret t— scoreboard is what he said. first i thought— scoreboard is what he said. first i thought you- scoreboard is what he said. first i thought you got- scoreboard is what he said. first i thought you got to say give us a twirl. we will halve httetteh. — give us a twirl. we will halve inflation. inflation— g ii we will halve inflation. inflation will be hete— inflation. inflation will be we hw— inflation. inflation will be we by the— inflation. inflation will be 2.9% by the end of the year. hew-e— 2.9% by the end of the year. hew-e he— 2.9% by the end of the year. how's he doing— 2.9% by the end of the year. how's he doing on that one? he's got how's he doing on that one? he's get te— how's he doing on that one? he's get te heeee. — how's he doing on that one? he's got to hopes. nigel,— how's he doing on that one? he's got to hopes. \t gill got to hopes. nigel, bob hope. no hope. right? okay got to hopes. \t gill \ttit right? okay we will no hope. right? okay we will grew— no hope. right? okay we will grew the — no hope. right? okay we will grow the economy— no hope. right? okay we will grow the economy .- \ttit right? okay we will grow the economy . see what it's grow the economy. see what it's ttetthhg— grow the economy. see what it's flatlining, isn't— grow the economy. see what it's flatlining, isn't it?— grow the economy. see what it's flatlining, isn't it? and about ehe— flatlining, isn't it? and about eht eheet— flatlining, isn't it? and about eht eheet te— flatlining, isn't it? and about and about to go— flatlining, isn't it? and about and about to go into recession ttetthhg. — and about to go into recession flatlining. and— and about to go into recession flatlining. and i— and about to go into recession flatlining. ' 3 and about to go into recession flatlining. “t3 ”titi. flatlining. and i think the fact that the bank of england feels to go back to your first question, which i didn't mean to skirt the that interest skirt the fact that interest rates going up so that rates are going up so much that is pretty likely to push us into recession. third, economic hrehtee— recession. third, economic ererhtee te— recession. third, economic erehtee ee— recession. third, economic promise is we will- ititi.ti~;ft~;ft “tit“ third, economic promise is we will make sure the hettehet— promise is we will make sure the hettehet teet— promise is we will make sure the national debt is— promise is we will make sure the national debt is falling. i understand— national debt is falling. i understand it's now 2.6 trtttteh. — understand it's now 2.6 trillion. we- understand it's now 2.6 trillion. �*ftt�*ti t3 t3 “ i “ understand it's now 2.6- trillion. we didn't even notice yesterday because we were so busy. wanging on about inflation, weren't we, that the

national to 100.1% of national debt went to 100.1% of gdp bigger than the size of the whole economy? that hasn't happened since the beatles were singing twist and shout 1961. it was even before that. well, they— it was even before that. well, they were— it was even before that. well, they were writing it. so it was even before that. this i “g i so fail, they were writing it. so fail, fail, fail , they were writing it. so fail, fail, fail, cut nhs- hiiti i “t: i so fail, fail, fail, cut nhs waiting ttete. — fail, fail, cut nhs waiting lists. there— fail, fail, cut nhs waiting lists. there 7.2- fail, fail, cut nhs waiting lists. there 7.2 million. oh, ehe— lists. there 7.2 million. oh, end my— lists. there 7.2 million. oh, and my favourite . we're going to and my favourite. we're going to etee— and my favourite. we're going to etee the— and my favourite. we're going to etee the teete— and my favourite. we're going to etee the heete .— and my favourite. we're going to stop the boats . liam halligan, stop the boats. liam halligan, thehhe— stop the boats. liam halligan, thehhe teh— stop the boats. liam halligan, thanks very much— stop the boats. liam halligan, thanks very much for joining us. in thanks very much for joining us. h e— thanks very much for joining us. m e mement— thanks very much for joining us. in a moment it'll— thanks very much for joining us. in a moment it'll be— thanks very much for joining us. in a moment it'll be farage- thanks very much for joining us.

chance to ask. so join us every trttev— chance to ask. so join us every trttev ehe— chance to ask. so join us every friday and saturday, 10 am. tttt— friday and saturday, 10 am. tttt heeh— friday and saturday, 10 am. tttt eh— friday and saturday, 10 am. till noon on gb— friday and saturday, 10 am. till noon on gb news, britain's news . channel— till noon on gb news, britain's news . channel okay news. channel okay, but it's now thet— news. channel okay, but it's now thet hert— news. channel okay, but it's now thet pert et— news. channel okay, but it's now thet pert et the— news. channel okay, but it's now that part of the show that is eettet— that part of the show that is called farage_ that part of the show that is called farage depher. git. called farage depher. i've got the— called farage depher. i've got five questions— called farage depher. i've got five questions sitting here in front of me and the great part of this is not only is it live, but i haven't got all i know is their names. i have no idea what

entree— their names. i have no idea what hmtree te— their names. i have no idea what andrea is about— their names. i have no idea what andrea is about to— their names. i have no idea what andrea is about to ask— i i have no idea what andrea is about to ask me. good eteehg— andrea is about to ask me. good etehhg. eeet— andrea is about to ask me. good evening. good evening. barnsley has evening. good evening. barnsley hee teem— evening. good evening. barnsley has been labour for decades. do you think next general you think the next general election, red wall may turn election, the red wall may turn turquoise as the conservatives do not have a chance in this area and labour have some questionable policies and they may put by them. yeah, may be put off by them. yeah, i mean it's really interesting, isn't it? i mean barnsley was , i isn't it? i mean barnsley was, i t— isn't it? i mean barnsley was, i t eeeht— isn't it? i mean barnsley was, i t eeeht mem— . .7’ i mean barnsley was, i mean i spent many much in mean i spent many much time in seeth— mean i spent many much time in south yorkshire— mean i spent many much time in south yorkshire .the - mean i spent many much time in south yorkshire the years south yorkshire over the years eemeetghhg— south yorkshire over the years campaigning ukip, campaigning first for ukip, eeeehttv— campaigning first for ukip, secondly-the- campaigning first for ukip, secondly the brexit party. secondly for the brexit party. we.— secondly for the brexit party. weletweve— secondly for the brexit party. weletweve-htg- secondly for the brexit party. we, always big votes we, we always got big votes here.— we, we always got big votesi here—we here. european elections. we etweve— here. european elections. we etweve me— here. european elections. we always came top— here. european elections. we always came top here 2014, 2019 geheret— always came top here 2014, 2019 general elections— always came top here 2014, 2019 general elections on the first eeet— general elections on the first heet the— general elections on the first greet the eeet— general elections on the first past the post people tend to go heeh.— past the post people tend to go heeh. vee— past the post people tend to go heeh. vet thew.— past the post people tend to go back, you know, not all of them, het— back, you know, not all of them, hut mem— back, you know, not all of them, hut mehv et— back, you know, not all of them, but many of them— back, you know, not all of them, but many of them go back to where— but many of them go back to where thetr— but many of them go back to where their families have been for where their families have been her e— where their families have been her e tehg— where their families have been for a long time.— where their families have been for a long time. i— where their families have been for a long time. i think the truth— for a long time. i think the truth et— for a long time. i think the truth et tt— for a long time. i think the truth of it is— for a long time. i think the truth of it is a— for a long time. i think the truth of it is a lot of those ret— truth of it is a lot of those ret wett— truth of it is a lot of those red wall voters— truth of it is a lot of those red wall voters actually weren't teeth— red wall voters actually weren't really conservative _ red wall voters actually weren't really conservative voters . you really conservative voters. you thew.— really conservative voters. you knew they— really conservative voters. you know, they were, _ really conservative voters. you know, they were, if you like, wtth — know, they were, if you like, wtth wee— know, they were, if you like, ukip was the _ know, they were, if you like, ukip was the gateway drug. you thew— ukip was the gateway drug. you knew .— ukip was the gateway drug. you knew . thew— ukip was the gateway drug. you know , they came— ukip was the gateway drug. you know , they came from labour to know, they came from labour to wtth— know, they came from labour to wtth ehe— know, they came from labour to wtth eht eh— know, they came from labour to ukip and on to— know, they came from labour to ukip and on to the— ukip and on to the conservatives. i think the conservatives _ conservatives. i think the conservatives and i think miriam was conservatives and i think miriam gette— conservatives and i think miriam gette trehh— conservatives and i think miriam was quite frank earlier, unless eemethhg— was quite frank earlier, unlessj eemethhg—. something dramatic happens, thew-re— something dramatic happens, they're - struggle - something dramatic happens, they're struggle to they're going to struggle to

hett— they're going to struggle to hold _those. - they're going to struggle to hold-those. i,- they're going to struggle to hold those. i, don't hold on to those. i, i don't thew.— hold on to those. i, i don't know. andrew— hold on to those. i, i don't know. andrew exactly what's going— know. andrew exactly what's gehg te— know. andrew exactly what's going to happen, but i think the tetete—wtthl levels of disenchantment with teth— levels of disenchantment with heth herttee— levels of disenchantment with both parties are— levels of disenchantment with both parties are higher now than i've ever seen in— both parties are higher now than i've ever seen in my lifetime . i've ever seen in my lifetime. tte— i've ever seen in my lifetime. tre tehe— i've ever seen in my lifetime. the tent te— i've ever seen in my lifetime. we tend to vote— i've ever seen in my lifetime. we tend to vote for one because we ttethe— we tend to vote for one because we dislike them— we tend to vote for one because we dislike them a— we tend to vote for one because we dislike them a bit less than the ether.— we dislike them a bit less than the ether. ee— we dislike them a bit less than the other. so at— we dislike them a bit less than the other. so at some point i'm hehhg— the other. so at some point i'm heethget— the other. so at some point i'm heehg-get e— the other. so at some point i'm hoping get a really radical hoping we get a really radical ehehe— hoping we get a really radical ehehe eh— hoping we get a really radical ehehe he et— hoping we get a really radical shake up of british politics. i teeth— shake up of british politics. i reettv te— shake up of british politics. i really do. yeah,— shake up of british politics. i really do. yeah, i— shake up of british politics. i really do. yeah, i think so. it heete— really do. yeah, i think so. it heete rt.— really do. yeah, i think so. it needs it. thank— really do. yeah, i think so. it needs it. thank you . okay hey, needs it. thank you. okay hey, tehe.— needs it. thank you. okay hey, tehe. ht— needs it. thank you. okay hey, jane- wt htget— needs it. thank you. okay hey, jane. hi, nigel. good evening. hette— jane. hi, nigel. good evening. hette. try— jane. hi, nigel. good evening. hello. my question— jane. hi, nigel. good evening. hello. my question is,- jane. hi, nigel. good evening. hello. my question is, according to popular, respected opinion, all of our inflation and fiscal problems stemmed from the price of electricity in the united kingdom. will those in power of all colours ever admit that net zero is just not workable ? zero is just not workable? well, jane . i think the real well, jane. i think the real answer to your— well, jane. i think the real answer to your question is we eheett— answer to your question is we eheett ewee— answer to your question is we should swap seats probably, and you should swap seats probably, and vet eheett— should swap seats probably, and vet eheett he— should swap seats probably, and you should be here because

vet-re— you should be here because you're absolutely right. thew-te— you're absolutely right. they've never— you're absolutely right. they've never admitted that they've lumped all this money on our electricity bills for the last two decades. they've basically taken money from the poor and given it to rich foreign companies build wind foreign companies to build wind farms. that has been farms. i mean, that has been going a of going on for a couple of decades. we all want to live in a better, cleaner environment. we all our kids and we all want our kids and grandkids inherit, you know, grandkids to inherit, you know, a the you know, the a world. but the you know, the fact the is that fact that the fact is that between indonesia, china , between indonesia, china, countries like this, india , i countries like this, india, i mean, they're burning. i mean, here we are in an old coal mining town. they're going to build eight, burn 8 billion tonnes of coal in the world this yeah tonnes of coal in the world this year. what doing is year. and what we're doing is telling going to have telling you you're going to have to a heat pump on your to have a heat pump on your house, an electric car. and if you're great. but if you're rich, it's great. but if you're rich, it's great. but if you're it's wholly you're not, it's wholly unaffordable. to in unaffordable. but to people in westminster , uh, this goal westminster, uh, this, this goal of zero, it's akin to of net zero, it's akin to a religion. they believe in it like a religion. they will never listen to any other debate or argument. and one of the reasons, jane, are inflation figures are so high is our fuel duties. our green taxes are

higher than everywhere else. and what do you have to do to move food and everything else around the country? know, you have the country? you know, you have to so, look, i'm i'm to drive it so, look, i'm i'm i'm clearly in the camp i'm very clearly in the camp that net zero is completely unachieved . bill, on its current unachieved. bill, on its current course . but if we really want to course. but if we really want to go for electricity, you know, you mentioned that we really want to go for that and we really want to cut carbon output. we have to go for small nuclear modular reactors. that is the way forward in the 21st century. what do you think . and century. what do you think. and it's almost as if net zero is- it's almost as if net zero is the— it's almost as if net zero is the the— it's almost as if net zero is like the new— it's almost as if net zero is like the new church and we're all like the new church and we're ett gehg— like the new church and we're ett gehg te— like the new church and we're all going to have— like the new church and we're all going to have to sort of prav— all going to have to sort of pray et— all going to have to sort of pray et the— all going to have to sort of pray at the altar. “ all going to have to sort of pray at the altar. �*" pray at the altar. but even if it was a temporary measure to get the country out of the financial dire straits that we're in, i think we should start firing up our coal fired power stations and at least get us back to where we were before. well , thank you . for thank you

well, thank you. for thank you teh— well, thank you. for thank you very meeh. — well, thank you. for thank you very much. that'll- well, thank you. for thank you very much. .. well, thank you. for thank you very much. i“..~;:ti. well, thank you. for thank you very much. .. very much. that'll be music to the ears of one of barnsley's most famous residents, someone that liam halligan met in this very room a few years ago because, of course , arthur because, of course, arthur scargill come from barnsley because, of course, arthur scargilallison:ome from barnsley because, of course, arthur scargilallison , me from barnsley because, of course, arthur scargilallison , whatom barnsley because, of course, arthur scargilallison , what have arnsley because, of course, arthur scargilallison , what have you.ey . now, allison, what have you got for me? hello, nigel. it's lovely to see you. good to see wee.— lovely to see you. good to see wee. thw— lovely to see you. good to see yet. my geeetteh— lovely to see you. good to see you. my question is,- lovely to see you. good to see you. my question is, is- lovely to see you. .3 my question is, is it right you. my question is, is it right thet— you. my question is, is it right thet we— you. my question is, is it right thet we ee— you. my question is, is it right that we are all— my question is, is it right that we are all suppose to just sit that we are all suppose to just ett heeh— that we are all suppose to just ett heeh ehe— that we are all suppose to just sit back and let— that we are all suppose to just sit back and let this government ettew— sit back and let this government ettew eer— sit back and let this government allow our national— sit back and let this government allow our national heritage and hteterv— allow our national heritage and hteterv te— allow our national heritage and hteterv te he— allow our national heritage and history to be destroyed by ettewhg— history to be destroyed by allowing migrants to be placed in allowing migrants to be placed th th— allowing migrants to be placed in in scampton_ allowing migrants to be placed in in scampton ,_ allowing migrants to be placed in in scampton , home to the in in scampton, home to the hemheetere— in in scampton, home to the dambusters and— in in scampton, home to the dambusters and the grave of guy etheeh— dambusters and the grave of guy etheeh .— dambusters and the grave of guy etheeh . wheee— dambusters and the grave of guy gibson , whose dog— dambusters and the grave of guy gibson , whose dog whose name gibson, whose dog whose name ehtteeetv— gibson, whose dog whose name ehtteeetv rm— gibson, whose dog whose name obviously i'm not— gibson, whose dog whose name obviously i'm not allowed to say . i obviously i'm not allowed to say . t t— obviously i'm not allowed to say . t t tte— obviously i'm not allowed to say . t t ttt e— obviously i'm not allowed to say . i i did a live— obviously i'm not allowed to say . i i did a live show— obviously i'm not allowed to say . i i did a live show from seemeteh. — . i i did a live show from scampton. i— . i i did a live show from scampton. . t/tittit“ . i i did a live show from- scampton. i saw it. yeah, i did a live show from scampton. from the dambusters arms, which is a very good pub that's just by the by, but it is i, i think you're right. i think that is wanton

cultural destruction of a very important site . and i even hear important site. and i even hear that most of the artefacts from 617 squadron and personal artefacts from guy gibson have now been completely removed from the building and taken to the raf museum in hendon. they've gone to a good home, but that's not the point . but i not really the point. but i think, actually think, alison, it's actually a bit worse that . i think bit worse than that. i think what's happening in our schools and through much of our media is and through much of our media is an attempt to literally denigrate everything this country has ever done and ever stood for centuries . i country has ever done and ever stood for centuries. i mean , stood for centuries. i mean, take the issue of slavery . you take the issue of slavery. you would think to listen to commentators , we'd be the only commentators, we'd be the only country in the world in history that had perpetrated slavery . that had perpetrated slavery. well, actually, we were one of many european countries that were it. and who was were doing it. and who was selling the slaves? well, selling us the slaves? well, actually, masters. actually, african slave masters. and we then use the royal navy for decades at a loss of over

2000 lives to stamp out the trade kids in school are not being taught any objective view of history. and i think of our history. and i think what's in a sense of what's interesting in a sense of rebellion of this , you to rebellion of this, if you say to people in this room or elsewhere , you ashamed of your , why are you ashamed of your family's people say, family's history? people say, no, do you what no, actually, do you know what you my in the war you know, my gran in the war worked a factory building worked in a factory building lancasters we're not ashamed of our we know it's our history. we know it's different today , but actually different to today, but actually compared to many other countries , particularly european i , particularly european ones, i think history is pretty think our history is pretty blooming think we've blooming good. and i think we've got stop this absolute poison got to stop this absolute poison burning the minds of young burning of the minds of young people about who we are as a country. i really do . i'd just country. i really do. i'd just like to i'd would— country. i really do. i'd just like to i'd would also- i 13in t3tit i'd just like to i'd would also robbing our children— like to i'd would also robbing our children of— like to i'd would also robbing our children of being able to see our country's— our children of being able to see our country's heritage and eeehehee— see our country's heritage and eeehehee tt— see our country's heritage and experience it by— see our country's heritage and experience it by going to these eteeee— experience it by going to these eteeee ehe— experience it by going to these eteeee me te— experience it by going to these places and to talk about desecrating_ places and to talk about desecrating ,_ places and to talk about desecrating , eating the grave of desecrating, eating the grave of guy— desecrating, eating the grave of guy etheeh-e— desecrating, eating the grave of guy gibson's dog,— desecrating, eating the grave of guy gibson's dog, the whole

the — guy gibson's dog, the whole the tt— guy gibson's dog, the whole thhg. tt te— guy gibson's dog, the whole thing. it is the— guy gibson's dog, the whole thing. . “g thing. it is the whole thing is disgusting. why don't we just sit back and say to the whole world, everybody come in, do whatever you want. we'll just let you do it . well, well, you let you do it. well, well, you know , i think the fact that know, i think the fact that people have come here illegally have been placed there. i think that makes people— have been placed there. i think that makes people very,- i3 ithink that makes people very, very ehgrv. — that makes people very, very ehgrv. wete— that makes people very, very ehgrv. wehe get— that makes people very, very angry. we've got time is running ehert. — angry. we've got time is running ehert. tte— angry. we've got time is running ehert. the get— angry. we've got time is running short. i've got shirley up next. hi short. i've got shirley up next. ht .— short. i've got shirley up next. ht . hette. thw— short. i've got shirley up next. my question is sort hi. hello. my question is sort of connected— hi. hello. my question is sort of connected to— hi. hello. my question is sort of connected to the- my question is sort of connected to the end of the conversation _ of connected to the end of the conversation you _ of connected to the end of the conversation you had with liam . conversation you had with liam. teeh— conversation you had with liam. teeh tt— conversation you had with liam. teeh tt te. — conversation you had with liam. teeh tt he. he— conversation you had with liam. yeah, it is. do you— conversation you had with liam. yeah, it is. do you think politicians— yeah, it is. do you think politicians that make manifest no politicians that make manifest he etetgee— politicians that make manifest he etetgee h— politicians that make manifest no pledges in order to win an eteetteh— no pledges in order to win an election should— no pledges in order to win an election should be held to eet— election should be held to eet tt— election should be held to account if they— election should be held to account if they fail to deliver? ttett— account if they fail to deliver? ttett .— account if they fail to deliver? ttett . t— account if they fail to deliver? ttett . t meme— account if they fail to deliver? well , i mean, if— account if they fail to deliver? well , i mean, if that- account if they fail to deliver? well , i mean, if that was- account if they fail to deliver? well, i mean, if that was the case and if there was some severe penalty, i mean, i think everybody would be in trouble. i mean, look, you know, of tte— i mean, look, you know, of course it's true— i mean, look, you know, of course it's true that circumstance does change. you thew.— circumstance does change. you knew thhge— circumstance does change. you know, things happen in wars heeeeh. — know, things happen in wars heeeeh. tee— know, things happen in wars happen. you know, economic eheehe— happen. you know, economic shocks happen.— happen. you know, economic shocks happen. weather events

heeheh. — shocks happen. weather events heeeeh. se— shocks happen. weather events happen. so sometimes not keeping to a happen. so sometimes not keeping te e mehtteete— happen. so sometimes not keeping to a manifesto pledge is ttttteett— to a manifesto pledge is difficult. but— to a manifesto pledge is difficult. but it's when we feel htteem— difficult. but it's when we feel htteem thet— difficult. but it's when we feel alison, that manifesto pledges hete— alison, that manifesto pledges hete heeh— alison, that manifesto pledges have been made— alison, that manifesto pledges have been made to us because they— have been made to us because they thhh— have been made to us because they think that's— have been made to us because they think that's what we want to they think that's what we want te heer— they think that's what we want te heer ehe— they think that's what we want to hear and they— they think that's what we want to hear and they never actually hete — to hear and they never actually hete em— to hear and they never actually have any intention— to hear and they never actually have any intention of carrying it have any intention of carrying tt eet.— have any intention of carrying tt eet. theh— have any intention of carrying tt eet. theh t— have any intention of carrying it out, then i think it's very, teh— it out, then i think it's very, very different— it out, then i think it's very, very different and one of the eteeee— very different and one of the eteeee where— very different and one of the places where the— very different and one of the places where the conservative party— places where the conservative hertv — places where the conservative hertv ere-eeeh— places where the conservative party are such big trouble is party are in such big trouble is in party are in such big trouble is he zero.— party are in such big trouble is he zero. see,— party are in such big trouble is in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, they heeh— in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, they teee tetthg— in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, they teee tetthg ee— in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, they keep telling us net migration whtt— keep telling us net migration wttt he— keep telling us net migration will be down— keep telling us net migration will be down to— keep telling us net migration will be down to tens of thousands— will be down to tens of thousands a— will be down to tens of thousands a year or they'll eteee— thousands a year or they'll eteee rt.— thousands a year or they'll reduce it. and— thousands a year or they'll reduce it. and it's now running at reduce it. and it's now running et heertv— reduce it. and it's now running at nearly three— reduce it. and it's now running at nearly three quarters of a mtttteh— at nearly three quarters of a mtttteh e— at nearly three quarters of a million a year.— at nearly three quarters of a million a year. and they never thtehtet— million a year. and they never thtehtet te— million a year. and they never intended to keep— million a year. and they never intended to keep that. boris tehheeh— intended to keep that. boris johnson never— intended to keep that. boris johnson never intended to cut tmmtgretteh.— johnson never intended to cut immigration. and— johnson never intended to cut immigration. and that, i think, is immigration. and that, i think, he whet— immigration. and that, i think, is what makes— immigration. and that, i think, is what makes us— immigration. and that, i think, is what makes us very angry. tetthg— is what makes us very angry. hethg eete— is what makes us very angry. having said that,— is what makes us very angry. having said that, i suspect teheer— having said that, i suspect labour will— having said that, i suspect labour will be— having said that, i suspect labour will be even worse . as we labour will be even worse. as we heert— labour will be even worse. as we heert hette— labour will be even worse. as we heard david lammy_ labour will be even worse. as we heard david lammy yesterday , heard david lammy yesterday, eeggeethg— heard david lammy yesterday, eeggeethg thet— heard david lammy yesterday, suggesting that maybe free movement of— suggesting that maybe free movement of people should come heeh.— movement of people should come heeh-teeh— movement of people should come heeh-lteeh. vee— movement of people should come back. look, you know , i think back. so look, you know, i think whet— back. so look, you know, i think whet vet-re— back. so look, you know, i think what you're what— back. so look, you know, i think what you're what you're etereeehg— what you're what you're expressing there is the disenchantment that we all feel. aheetetetv. — disenchantment that we all feel. absolutely. and _ disenchantment that we all feel. absolutely. and i— disenchantment that we all feel. absolutely. and i think we voted for

absolutely. and i think we voted ter hrettt— absolutely. and i think we voted for brexit and— absolutely. and i think we voted for brexit and got— absolutely. and i think we voted for brexit and got net zero, whteh— for brexit and got net zero, whteh we— for brexit and got net zero, which we didn't— for brexit and got net zero, which we didn't vote for. no, het— which we didn't vote for. no, no, net zero. clearly not eeeeter— no, net zero. clearly not eeeeter h— no, net zero. clearly not popular in barnsley. thank you. ttght— popular in barnsley. thank you. ttght tet-e— popular in barnsley. thank you. right let's have— popular in barnsley. thank you. right let's have a— popular in barnsley. thank you. right let's have a go. karl, eteeee— right let's have a go. karl, eteeee .— right let's have a go. karl, eteeee . — right let's have a go. karl, please . nigel,- right let's have a go. karl, please . nigel, i- right let's have a go. karl, please . \t t3ti. right let's have a go. karl,- please . nigel, i love the socks, please. nigel, i love the socks, by the way. good. i'm pleased. if you're stranded on a desert island , which of these people island, which of these people would you most want to spend the time with ? ginger minj , harry time with? ginger minj, harry and meghan sleeping . joe joe and meghan sleeping. joe joe biden scheme mean sturgeon. nicola sturgeon . no, no. no. no. nicola sturgeon. no, no. no. no. or jean claude juncker. oh oh. there's no question. “ 3 i oh. there's no question. there's oi “ 3 i o“ oh. there's no question. there's no geeetteh.— there's no question. there's no geeetteh. att— there's no question. there's no question. all the— there's no question. there's no question. all the others are all heveht— question. all the others are all heveht the— question. all the others are all beyond the pale.— question. all the others are all beyond the pale. sturgeon is one of beyond the pale. sturgeon is one et the— beyond the pale. sturgeon is one et the meet— beyond the pale. sturgeon is one of the most unpleasant human hehge— of the most unpleasant human hehge tte— of the most unpleasant human beings i've ever— of the most unpleasant human beings i've ever met in my life. ehger— beings i've ever met in my life. ehger ehe— beings i've ever met in my life. ginger and whinge_ beings i've ever met in my life. ginger and whinge i'd find tetettv— ginger and whinge i'd find- totally—jean—claude totally unbearable. jean—claude juncker— totally unbearable. jean—claude teheher ehe— totally unbearable. jean—claude teheher eht t— totally unbearable. jean—claude juncker and i had— totally unbearable. jean—claude juncker and i had very, very ttttereht— juncker and i had very, very different opinions. but you know wigg— different opinions. but you know whete t— different opinions. but you know what? i actually— different opinions. but you know what? i actually-a- different opinions. but you know what? i actually a very good what? i actually had a very good teegh— what? i actually had a very good teegh-e— what? i actually had a very good teegh-e-wtth— what? i actually had a very good laugh-a-with him - what? i actually had a very good laugh a with him and laugh and a joke with him and pretttet— laugh and a joke with him and pretttet-e— laugh and a joke with him and provided a pipeline in provided we had a pipeline in trem— provided we had a pipeline in trem ee— provided we had a pipeline in trem et— provided we had a pipeline in from one of the— provided we had a pipeline in from one of the bordeaux theverte— from one of the bordeaux wheverte .— from one of the bordeaux vineyards , as— from one of the bordeaux vineyards , as i- from one of the bordeaux vineyards , as i think we get on vineyards, as i think we get on wett— vineyards, as i think we get on wett ehe— vineyards, as i think we get on wett me he— vineyards, as i think we get on

well and he would cheer me up no end heeeeee— well and he would cheer me up no end because he'd— well and he would cheer me up no end because he'd make me think i heteh-t— end because he'd make me think i heteh-t get— end because he'd make me think i heteh-t get e— end because he'd make me think i haven't got a drink— end because he'd make me think i haven't got a drink problem at ett— haven't got a drink problem at ett. se— haven't got a drink problem at ett. se thehh— haven't got a drink problem at all. so thank you. “ haven't got a drink problem at all. so thank you. cite/q “ all. so thank you. okay. in a moment it's going to be time for talking pints, and i'm going to be joined by local lad paul chuckle joins me in just a moment who .

omicron right now it's time for talking pints and my guest tonight. welli talking pints and my guest tonight. well i have to say he is tonight. well i have to say he he ee— tonight. well i have to say he he et— tonight. well i have to say he he et the— tonight. well i have to say he is one of the most— “.tit�* 3“. well i have to say he is one of the most versatile eemetehet— is one of the most versatile comedians because here he was here— comedians because here he was here wtth— comedians because here he was here wtth the — comedians because here he was here with the chuckle brothers wtth— here with the chuckle brothers wtth thehv— here with the chuckle brothers with tinchy stryder just a few veere— with tinchy stryder just a few veere ege— with tinchy stryder just a few veere ege. hete— with tinchy stryder just a few years ago. have a look at this . years ago. have a look at this. hey,— years ago. have a look at this. hevt te— years ago. have a look at this. heyt te yout— years ago. have a look at this. hey, to you, jemmy. to you, them — hey, to you, jemmy. to you, them te— hey, to you, jemmy. to you, them he me— hey, to you, jemmy. to you, them he me .— hey, to you, jemmy. to you, then. to me . to you. to me. to then. to me. to you. to me. to you.then

then. to me. to you. to me. to you. then to me . to you. to me. you. then to me. to you. to me. to you. then to me . to you. to to you. then to me. to you. to me . to you then. oh just stop me. to you then. oh just stop with that mean to you. to me. to you. to me. to you. stop. we both got things to do for me. to you. to me. to you, bro. what thet— you. to me. to you, bro. what thet me— you. to me. to you, bro. what thet te— you. to me. to you, bro. what that mean to you? - you. to me. to you, bro. what that mean to you? to- to you, bro. what that mean to you? to me. to you. to me. to you. to we both got things to do for me. to you. to me. to you . please welcome paul. me. to you. please welcome paul. cheehte— me. to you. please welcome paul. cheehte .— me. to you. please welcome paul. cheehte . wett— me. to you. please welcome paul. chuckle . well, welcome- please welcome paul. chuckle . well, welcome . welcome. chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. it's chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. tt-e e— chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. tt-e e geet— chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. tt-e e geet pert— chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. tt-e e geet pert et— chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. it's a good part of the— chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. it's a good part of the show.- chuckle. well, welcome. welcome. it's a good part of the show. - it's a good part of the show. this is a nice part. board of hreet. — this is a nice part. board of bread. rotherham- this is a nice part. board of bread. ki 3 '.t�*~t. t/titft this is a nice part. board of bread. 3ci 3 '.t�*~t. t/titft tit“t3 bread. rotherham yes, and a family of entertainers . yes. dad family of entertainers. yes. dad was a comedian. jean paton was in the old musicals and stuff . in the old musicals and stuff. mum was a dancer , two eldest mum was a dancer, two eldest hrethere— mum was a dancer, two eldest hrethere whe — mum was a dancer, two eldest brothers who were— mum was a dancer, two eldest brothers who were in the theme— brothers who were in the business when i was born. there-e— business when i was born. there-e het— business when i was born. there's not far— business when i was born. there's not far between us. but mht— there's not far between us. but mht yout— there's not far between us. but mht your the— there's not far between us. but mind you, the were ordered htermpt— mind you, the were ordered interrupt mum _ mind you, the were ordered interrupt mum and dad. yeah.

teeh— interrupt mum and dad. yeah. teeh ahe— interrupt mum and dad. yeah. yeah and yeah.— interrupt mum and dad. yeah. yeah and yeah. showbiz families. and yeah and yeah. showbiz families. the t— yeah and yeah. showbiz families. the t wee— yeah and yeah. showbiz families. and i was born— yeah and yeah. showbiz families. and i was born in— yeah and yeah. showbiz families. and i was born in masbrough , a and i was born in masbrough, a eteee— and i was born in masbrough, a eteee threw— and i was born in masbrough, a stone's throw from _ and i was born in masbrough, a stone's throw from millmoor tetherhem — stone's throw from millmoor rotherham united's ground and in teet— rotherham united's ground and in teet. the— rotherham united's ground and in teet. the thet— rotherham united's ground and in fact, the first words— rotherham united's ground and in fact, the first words i said was you— fact, the first words i said was wet threw— fact, the first words i said was you threw that. _ fact, the first words i said was you threw that. and well, they hert— you threw that. and well, they were hard crowd,— you threw that. and well, they were hard crowd, didn't it ? ' “t3 were hard crowd, didn't it? and you— were hard crowd, didn't it? and yet thew.— were hard crowd, didn't it? and you knew peepte— were hard crowd, didn't it? and you know, people think these days x factor and you know all of these big talent shows you know britain's got britain's got talent because you guys won a show that was even more dominant . ithink show that was even more dominant . i think in many ways. it was the— . i think in many ways. it was the temee-e — . i think in many ways. it was the famous. yes,— i think in many ways. it was the famous. yes, hughie green ehe— the famous. yes, hughie green ehe oppertehttv— the famous. yes, hughie green and opportunity knocks, wasn't tte — and opportunity knocks, wasn't tte tee— and opportunity knocks, wasn't tte tee . sput— and opportunity knocks, wasn't it? t/titft spui green, hughie it? yes. spui green, hughie eteeh— it? yes. spui green, hughie eteeh .— it? yes. spui green, hughie eteeh . teeh— it? yes. spui green, hughie green . yeah. we— it? t/titft spui green, hughie green . yeah. we won that in green. yeah. we won that in reteh — green. yeah. we won that in reteh tre-t— green. yeah. we won that in 1967. we'd only— green. yeah. we won that in 1967. we'd only been in the theme— 1967. we'd only been in the business four— 1967. we'd only been in the business four years by then, 60 veere— business four years by then, 60 veere thte— business four years by then, 60 years this month— business four years by then, 60 years this month since we etertet. — years this month since we started. good.- years this month since we started. .3 «ci: years this month since we started. .3 g: years this month since we started. .3 tilt g: t/titft started. good. very good. yes aslef and winning opportunity knocks changed everything. well, no , no. for about 2 or well, no, no. for about 2 or 3 months, we were big names in the working men's clubs and that was

it. and then we were forgotten again. because if you're only on again. because if you're only on a one off, even if it's a talent show, you don't do much. but seven years later, in 1974, we won opportunity new faces. yeah and that changed it a bit. and we got quite a lot of tvs after that. yeah. and you're appearing on big tv programmes. you're doing all this stuff, you're making people laugh , but you making people laugh, but you then decide that you're going to do kids tv and make kids laugh . do kids tv and make kids laugh. what what prompted that ? well, what what prompted that? well, we didn't decide it. what what prompted that? well, we didn't decide it . we 3 “tit..7 well, we didn't decide it . we were we didn't decide it. we were eetee.— we didn't decide it. we were eehet. we— we didn't decide it. we were asked. we were— we didn't decide it. we were asked. we were doing a ward. attem— asked. we were doing a ward. atteh teger— asked. we were doing a ward. allen roger the— asked. we were doing a ward. allen roger the dog . it was allen roger the dog. it was a ehtttreh-e— allen roger the dog. it was a children's tv— allen roger the dog. it was a children's tv programme and it tetthg— children's tv programme and it was touring the _ children's tv programme and it was touring the country and they hehg— was touring the country and they tehg e— was touring the country and they were doing a three— was touring the country and they were doing a three week tour teeter— were doing a three week tour teeter h— were doing a three week tour over easter in theatres, which tehe— over easter in theatres, which was our forte more than the eteee— was our forte more than the etehe .— was our forte more than the etehe . amt— was our forte more than the clubs . and we— was our forte more than the clubs . and we were asked if we clubs. and we were asked if we wette— clubs. and we were asked if we would compare— clubs. and we were asked if we would compare the show and we eete.— would compare the show and we eett. tre-te— would compare the show and we said, we've never— would compare the show and we said, we've never worked two thte— said, we've never worked two the h— said, we've never worked two the th eer— said, we've never worked two kids in our lives— said, we've never worked two kids in our lives and they said, whtt— kids in our lives and they said, wrtt vee— kids in our lives and they said, wrtt vet te— kids in our lives and they said, will you do pantomime every year?— will you do pantomime every year? se— will you do pantomime every year? so well,— will you do pantomime every year? so well, yeah, but that's temp.— year? so well, yeah, but that's temttv. ahe— year? so well, yeah, but that's family. and they— year? so well, yeah, but that's family. and they said, well, all you— family. and they said, well, all vet-te— family. and they said, well, all vet-te te— family. and they said, well, all vet-te te te— family. and they said, well, all you to do is compare the

you need to do is compare the ehew— you need to do is compare the ehew ehe— you need to do is compare the ehew me te— you need to do is compare the show and do a— you need to do is compare the show and do a bits you do show and do a few bits you do hehg— show and do a few bits you do tehg-pehte.— show and do a few bits you do temg-pehte. se— show and do a few bits you do doing panto. so we oh doing the panto. so we said, oh eeet— doing the panto. so we said, oh eeet. teeh— doing the panto. so we said, oh eeet. veeh-te— doing the panto. so we said, oh cool, yeah,-do that. - doing the panto. so we said, oh cool, yeah, do that. three cool, yeah, we'll do that. three weehe— cool, yeah, we'll do that. three weehelthe — cool, yeah, we'll do that. three weeks .the theatre - weeks in the theatre entertaining as weeks in the theatre- entertaining-as compared weeks in the theatre— entertaining-as compared to entertaining kids as compared to the-eteee— entertaining kids as compared to the-stand.comedy. entertaining kids as compared toi the-stand.comedy. the northern stand up comedy. it's the northern stand up comedy. tt'slslightlv_ the northern stand up comedy. it'slslightly different- it's a slightly different script, it? just slightly script, isn't it? just slightly . trades and labour . rotherham trades and labour were , but you go on, were much harder, but you go on, you know, with chucklevision to have this truly astonishing success, that's amazing. i mean , you go on for nearly- success, that's amazing. i mean , you go on for nearly a- “l i mean , you go on for nearly a quarter of , you go on for nearly a quarter et e— , you go on for nearly a quarter et e eehteh. — , you go on for nearly a quarter of a century. yeah,— , you go on for nearly a quarter of a century. yeah, 23 years. i tht— of a century. yeah, 23 years. i mean kind of— of a century. yeah, 23 years. i mean kind of everybody between 30 mean kind of everybody between to ehe— mean kind of everybody between so me so— mean kind of everybody between 30 and 50 knows— mean kind of everybody between 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly whe— 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly whe vee— 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly whe vet — 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly who you are. was— 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly who you are. was it— 30 and 50 knows exactly exactly who you are. was it fun to do it was fabulous. _ who you are. was it fun to do it was fabulous. what- who you are. was it fun to do it was fabulous. �*thfit. who you are. was it fun to do it was fabulous. giie. who you are. was it fun to do it was fabulous. �*thfit. giie. was fabulous. what a great show. and because it was so fun to make all the crew were independents. they they all made sure every autumn they weren't doing anything. they were doing chucklevision . we had the same chucklevision. we had the same crew for about 20 years. and it was it was just absolute fantastic. it was like a family getting to film it getting back together to film it . and there you were with your hrether— . and there you were with your hrether heth.— . and there you were with your brother barry. you— and there you were with your brother barry. you know, you're wehhg— brother barry. you know, you're working—whole. brother barry. you know, you're. working—whole time. working together the whole time. new. — working together the whole time. new. -hrethere- working together the whole time. now. _brothers ,- now. normally, brothers, wheteter— now. normally, brothers, whatever age— now. normally, brothers, whatever age they are , you have whatever age they are, you have a whatever age they are, you have e ett— whatever age they are, you have e htt et— whatever age they are, you have e htt et e— whatever age they are, you have e htt et e eerep—

whatever age they are, you have a bit of a scrap .— whatever age they are, you have a bit of a scrap . how was that a bit of a scrap. how was that wehhg— a bit of a scrap. how was that working relationship for all theee— working relationship for all those years? _ working relationship for all those years? �*tttttii 3 “ . i those years? well, we'd hit each other and then go, hello ? now, other and then go, hello? now, now we're never really had a fight. we never, ever had a fist fight. we never, ever had a fist fight or anything like that. obviously you have arguments now and again, but when you're growing up from kids, it's anything you have row about anything you have a row about something other and never something or other and i'm never going you again. and going to speak to you again. and five later you're five minutes later you're playing you're playing playing again. you're playing again. was like again. and it was just like family in it. and i know you've eete— family in it. and i know you've eett etrtee— family in it. and i know you've said since barry— .«t “ . and i know you've said since barry passed away a tew— said since barry passed away a hew-ege— said since barry passed away a hew-ege-vee- said since barry passed away a few-ago-you found. few years ago that you found thet— few years ago that you found thet teh.— few years ago that you found thet teh. verv— few years ago that you found that very, very tough. cit“ �*" that very, very tough. oh, five years— that very, very tough. oh, five years ege— that very, very tough. oh, five years egelwee— that very, very tough. oh, five years ago. was it was awful. years ago. it was it was awful. it really was. because he hadn't told he'd got cancer. he told me that he'd got cancer. he was telling me he'd got was he was telling me he'd got sciatica . and i kept saying, sciatica. and i kept saying, well, seems unusual. you've well, it seems unusual. you've got legs. you know, got down both legs. you know, it's got down both legs. you know, its had got down both legs. you know, it's had it myself and it's it's i've had it myself and it's agony down one leg, but not both. and he said, well, that's what the doctor tells me. and he was just keeping it from me that he'd bone cancer. and then he'd got bone cancer. and then we to do a sports we were going to do a sports relief sketch in london for sports relief . and the taxi sports relief. and the taxi picked me up and went to pick

barry up to go to the station to go down to london and he struggled to get out of the house. and i was watching him from the taxi and he was trying to lift his feet over the step. and his wife helped him across to the car and he got in and i said, what ? and he said, oh, i'm said, what? and he said, oh, i'm having a lot of pain today in the legs. and as we go into the station, i said, we can't really, you know, go into this. this sketch was sports relief like this for a start. as we get to the to the studio , the to the to the studio, the paparazzi are going to be saying, oh , look at barry. he saying, oh, look at barry. he can hardly walk because you can't do that. so i sent him home and phoned the manager. i said, him we can't do it. said, tell him we can't do it. and next day then i went, and the next day then i went, we'd got a farmhouse in france and over there and i'd and we went over there and i'd got a phone call from his wife, anne, saying he can't get out of bed and his legs are totally it devastating, devastating . and devastating, devastating. and that's when i said, put him on the phone. and i spoke to him.

and that's when he said he was always said he wanted to work till he dropped dead on stage . till he dropped dead on stage. his thing was always entertaining, you his thing was always entertaining , you know, his thing was always entertaining, you know, making people laugh . yeah, that's all people laugh. yeah, that's all he ever wanted to do . like tommy he ever wanted to do. like tommy coopen he ever wanted to do. like tommy cooper, he wants to work forever. who died on stage ? forever. who died on stage? exactly. and he wants to do the same thing. he wouldn't say same thing. so he wouldn't say anything because i just said, you know, get yourself sorted. and he didn't . but you and he he didn't. but you obviously hurt you hugely. and you'd worked together- you'd worked together and you eert— you'd worked together and you eert et— you'd worked together and you eert et eete.— you'd worked together and you sort of said, you— you'd worked together and you sort of said, you know, he was the— sort of said, you know, he was the the— sort of said, you know, he was the eric morecambe to your ernie thee— the eric morecambe to your ernie thee ehe— the eric morecambe to your ernie the me ett— the eric morecambe to your ernie wise and all of— the eric morecambe to your ernie wise and all of those things . wise and all of those things. tteettv. — wise and all of those things. teeth the— wise and all of those things. exactly. and yet— wise and all of those things. exactly. and yet paul, you could hete— exactly. and yet paul, you could hete teet— exactly. and yet paul, you could hete thet eete.— exactly. and yet paul, you could have just said, well you know whet.— have just said, well you know what,-reached_ have just said, well you know what,-reached a- have just said, well you know what, reached a certain age what, i've reached a certain age , what, i've reached a certain age lreeehet— what, i've reached a certain age , reached threescore and , i've reached threescore and e...— , i've reached threescore and tem mevhe— , i've reached threescore and ten, maybe it's— , i've reached threescore and ten, maybe it's time i retire. het— ten, maybe it's time i retire. hut-ere.— ten, maybe it's time i retire. hut-ere. thte- ten, maybe it's time i retire. but-are, five and. ten, maybe it's time i retire. but are, five and a ten, maybe it's time i retire.- but-are, five and a bit but here you are, five and a bit veere— but here you are, five and a bit veere eh— but here you are, five and a bit veere eh ehe— but here you are, five and a bit veere eh eht t— but here you are, five and a bit years on and i mean, you're on thteh— years on and i mean, you're on thteh thhg— years on and i mean, you're on thteh thhg te— years on and i mean, you're on tiktok trying to entertain all the tree— tiktok trying to entertain all the the vet— tiktok trying to entertain all the kids you do. c' it. cit �*tttttii the kids you do. cameo well, these kids now have grown up to 50 odd, but you seem to be incredibly busy. what are you up tee — incredibly busy. what are you up to? well, i'm sorry. i was born in to? well, i'm sorry. i was born th e—

to? well, i'm sorry. i was born th e eeehett— to? well, i'm sorry. i was born in a council estate— to? well, i'm sorry. i was born in a council estate in- in a council estate in rotherham,- in a council estate in rotherham, and you keep working . teh-t— rotherham, and you keep working . teh-t you?— rotherham, and you keep working . teh-t you? tee— rotherham, and you keep working , don't you? you need the money. het— , don't you? you need the money. hut teeh— , don't you? you need the money. hut veeh t— , don't you? you need the money. hut yeaht t emet— , don't you? you need the money. but yeah, i enjoy it.— , don't you? you need the money. but yeah, i enjoy it. i enjoy whet— but yeah, i enjoy it. i enjoy whet t— but yeah, i enjoy it. i enjoy whet t rte.— but yeah, i enjoy it. i enjoy what i do. i'm— but yeah, i enjoy it. i enjoy what i do. i'm now a dj. dj. teeh— what i do. i'm now a dj. dj. teeh t— what i do. i'm now a dj. dj. teeh t te— what i do. i'm now a dj. dj. yeah, i do an— what i do. i'm now a dj. dj. yeah, i do an hours dj spot, a eetehrttv— yeah, i do an hours dj spot, a eetehrttv pr— yeah, i do an hours dj spot, a celebrity dj and— yeah, i do an hours dj spot, a celebrity dj and nightclub and universities— celebrity dj and nightclub and universities .— celebrity dj and nightclub and universities . i've— celebrity dj and nightclub and universities . i've just come universities. i've just come heeh— universities. i've just come heehtrem— universities. i've just come back from malta , hence the time back from malta, hence the time the — back from malta, hence the time the heeh— back from malta, hence the time i've been filming— back from malta, hence the time i've been filming madame blanc ttvetertee— i've been filming madame blanc trvetertee wtth— i've been filming madame blanc mysteries with sally lindsay there— mysteries with sally lindsay over there and _ mysteries with sally lindsay over there and whatever . you over there and whatever. you thew.— over there and whatever. you knew t— over there and whatever. you knew t ett— over there and whatever. you know. i did springwatch a couple of know. i did springwatch a couple et weehe— know. i did springwatch a couple et weehe ege— know. i did springwatch a couple etweehe ege. — know. i did springwatch a couple of weeks ago. t/tittit“ of weeks ago. sheep yeah, just anything that comes in. i just love doing it. it'sjust,- “g i “ ijust love doing it. it's just, you thew.— love doing it. it's just, you knew tte— love doing it. it's just, you know, it's great. - love doing it. it's just, you know, it's great. this one's even better. _ know, it's great. this one's even better. you- know, it's great. this one's even better. you get a drink? ttett— even better. you get a drink? vett. theh— even better. you get a drink? well, thank you. _ even better. you get a drink? well, thank you. and- even better. you get a drink? well, thank you. and is- even better. you get a drink? well, thank you. and is it. i mean, you know, we talk about tommy cooper, your brother. is that your ambition? just to keep going as long as you possibly can? well, no. my ambition is to wh— can? well, no. my ambition is to wh-tetteh— can? well, no. my ambition is to wh-tetteh-teet- can? well, no. my ambition is to win-lottery-just i- can? well, no. my ambition is to win-lottery-just i do.- win the lottery and just i do. tee— win the lottery and just i do. tee thew— win the lottery and just i do. you know what,— win the lottery and just i do. you know what, paul? i think tetthg— you know what, paul? i think hettmg met— you know what, paul? i think having met you, albeit briefly tonight, if you won the lottery, you'd still be out celebrity jig. iwould. you'd still be out celebrity jig. i would. you'd still be out ehtevhg— q3“ i would. you'd still be out enjoying pantomime and enjoying yourself pantomime and all

enjoying yourself pantomime and ett-.— enjoying yourself pantomime and ett-. hew— enjoying yourself pantomime and ett-. hew whet- enjoying yourself pantomime and all-. now what is- enjoying yourself pantomime and all . now what is it? all the bits. now what is it? tthet— all the bits. now what is it? whet te— all the bits. now what is it? whet he the— all the bits. now what is it? what is the ingredi int that mehee— what is the ingredi int that makes some people the makes some people have the ehttttv— makes some people have the ehttttv te— makes some people have the ability to make— makes some people have the ability to make others laugh. tthet— ability to make others laugh. whet te— ability to make others laugh. what is .what's- ability to make others laugh. what is what's the secret ? what is it? what's the secret? the— what is it? what's the secret? the etweve— what is it? what's the secret? i've always asked— what is it? what's the secret? i've always asked myself- what is it? what's the secret? i've always asked myself that and you know, i don't know. it's, it's fun. i mean the type of comedy. barry and i did and i still do when i'm doing pantomime stuff is age ageless . pantomime stuff is age ageless. it's going back to roman days. you know, if they've got the togas on if the wind blew and it was shot up, you hey, look at that. it's funny as somebody trips and falls, you see a grandma coming out of the shop and slips on the ice flat on her back. first thing you do is go. then go help them. you then you go and help them. you know, that's comedy, you know, it's that's comedy, you know, it's that's comedy, you know, funny now. a know, things are funny now. a lot people, a lot of lot of people, a lot of comedians— lot of people, a lot of comedians now rely really worry thet— comedians now rely really worry thet wtth— comedians now rely really worry thet wtth the — comedians now rely really worry that with the modern wokeist age weheh- ehe— that with the modern wokeist age weheh- eht vee- that with the modern wokeist age we're in and you can't we're living in and you can't cause offence— we're living in and you can't cause offence and you can't tell retee— cause offence and you can't tell tehee eheet— cause offence and you can't tell jokes about this— cause offence and you can't tell jokes about this and that . and jokes about this and that. and peepte— jokes about this and that. and peepte-teweh— jokes about this and that. and people rowan atkinson been people like rowan atkinson been gette— people like rowan atkinson been gette reettv— people like rowan atkinson been quite really quite— people like rowan atkinson been quite really quite outspoken on the— quite really quite outspoken on the. eevhg— quite really quite outspoken on this, saying, look,— quite really quite outspoken on this, saying, look, you know, if we tt— this, saying, look, you know, if we h we— this, saying, look, you know, if we h we etep— this, saying, look, you know, if we if we stop if— this, saying, look, you know, if we if we stop if we kill comedy, whteh— we if we stop if we kill comedy, whteh te— we if we stop if we kill comedy, which is what— we if we stop if we kill comedy, which is what you're doing, if

you— which is what you're doing, if vet teh-t— which is what you're doing, if vet eeh-t eew— which is what you're doing, if you can't say everything, we effedivelyt_ you can't say everything, we effectively, you _ you can't say everything, we effectively, you know, change our effectively, you know, change eeetetv— effectively, you know, change our society and— effectively, you know, change our society and change our tttee. — our society and change our tttee. t— our society and change our tttee. t meem— our society and change our lives. i mean, does that worry you? — lives. i mean, does that worry you? wethtmg— lives. i mean, does that worry you? nothing worries- lives. i mean, does that worry you? ttit.“ “g lives. i mean, does that worry- you? nothing worries me. i'm too chilled from east herringthorpe in rotherham and, you know, nothing worries me . no, they nothing worries me. no, they when we won new faces, we did a joke, a gag dance and we were stammering as a can i have this dance ? and barry go. yeah. and dance? and barry go. yeah. and we'd dance around in a circle. they got. yeah, yeah, yeah. dance around in a circle they got. yes. and we got ten out of ten from all the judges for the whole routine we did. and clifford don't clifford davis said i don't really jokes you really like jokes about, you know, people with the disability and mickey mouse said, what are you you were you talking about? you were laughing we and laughing more than we were. and he yeah, very he said, oh, yeah, it's very funny. you know, and funny. he said, you know, and but that stuff, you can't do but all that stuff, you can't do that. no way you could do that anymore. but it seems the repertoire being narrowed repertoire is being narrowed in more more. yeah, more and more and more. yeah, but do these things, but when you do these things, you're having. i wasn't. we you're not having. i wasn't. we weren't taking the mickey out of

people had speech people that had a speech impediment. you know, was impediment. you know, it was just joke. and the way just a funny joke. and the way we and things, we did it visually and things, you but life has changed, you know. but life has changed, you know. but life has changed, you like the change? you know? do we like the change? well some of us do. anybody over 70 don't we like 70 motty, i don't think we like the don't think the change. i don't think there's anybody over 78 anyway. so 1 or but not that many. so 1 or 2, but not that many. and south yorkshire's changed ehtteeetv. — and south yorkshire's changed ehweeetv. oh— and south yorkshire's changed obviously. cit“ gilt?" gilt?" gilt?" obviously. oh yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean south yorkshire. i mean it was all steelworks and pits things. they've all gone all there's a couple of steelworks left open but it's a shame because i mean salt of the earth you know rather than people and barnsley people. yeah yeah yeah teeh— barnsley people. yeah yeah yeah veeh teeh— barnsley people. yeah yeah yeah veeh veeh veeh— barnsley people. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. good— yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. good fun. well there— yeah yeah yeah. good fun. well there vee— yeah yeah yeah. good fun. well there yet ge. — yeah yeah yeah. good fun. well there you go. you— yeah yeah yeah. good fun. well there you go. /tit. there you go. you see paul chuckle always the entertainer , chuckle always the entertainer, still knowing how to get the audience on his side. i want to say a big audience on his side. i want to eev e htg thehhe— audience on his side. i want to say a big thanks for— tit-t: ti“tit.i “cit“ “ t3i i want to say a big thanks for coming tit-t: ti i “cit“ “ t3i i want to say a big thanks for coming on my geeet— say a big thanks for coming on my geeet eh— say a big thanks for coming on my guest on talking pints. what a my guest on talking pints. what e greet— my guest on talking pints. what e greet eereer— my guest on talking pints. what a great career you've had. thank you,— a great career you've had. thank vet. htget— a great career you've had. thank

vet. htget. hew— a great career you've had. thank vet. htget. wew .— a great career you've had. thank you, nigel. wow . yes, they are you, nigel. wow. yes, they are heeh. — you, nigel. wow. yes, they are heeh. hett— you, nigel. wow. yes, they are back. bell and— you, nigel. wow. yes, they are back. tit“t3 ”- “g you, nigel. wow. yes, they are back. tit“t3 133 i back. bell and spurling are back with their latest take on current affairs with nigel says take it away boys . boris johnson take it away boys. boris johnson has take it away boys. boris johnson hee heeh— take it away boys. boris johnson has been banned— take it away boys. boris johnson has been banned for— take it away boys. boris johnson has been banned for his- . boris johnson has been banned for his naughty weve. — has been banned for his naughty weve. he— has been banned for his naughty weve. he eete— has been banned for his naughty ways. he said the— has been banned for his naughty ways. d ”. ways. he said the kangaroo court , they want him out for 90 days so he can pass me again, just like he did at number 10. well, someone can bring me a piece of cake. it breaks the anniversary . there's been five prime ttthtetere— . there's been five prime ministers and— there's been five prime ministers and we're still not tree. — ministers and we're still not tree. the— ministers and we're still not free. the drinks- ministers and we're still not free. the drinks are- ministers and we're still not joint information centre staff and i will be hereare heln joint information centre staff free. ” “

is bunch of 9 to 2. says just as it he ee— bunch of 9 to 2. says just as it he ee hreght— bunch of 9 to 2. says just as it is as draghi committee . shut is as draghi committee. shut veer— is as draghi committee. shut veer geh— is as draghi committee. shut veer geh .— is as draghi committee. shut your gob . because nigel was your gob. because nigel was etweve— your gob. because nigel was etweve eh— your gob. because nigel was etweve eh the— your gob. because nigel was always on the bone night . your always on the bone night. your eete— always on the bone night. your eeve 0g,— always on the bone night. your eeve oh. teem — always on the bone night. your says oh, dear. oh— always on the bone night. your says oh, dear. oh dear, oh, teem — says oh, dear. oh dear, oh, teer. nigel-— says oh, dear. oh dear, oh, dear. nigel. it— says oh, dear. oh dear, oh, dear. nigel. it was- says oh, dear. oh dear, oh, dear. h t3ti . dear. nigel. it was advertised as a jingle and mingle. nine says there is a hell of a hue and cry nigel . farage all. hello, i'm |terege— all. hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg ehe— all. hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg me the— all. hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg eht thte te— all. hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg and this is state— all. hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg and this is state of— hello, i'm jacob rees—mogg and this is state of the nation. tehtght— and this is state of the nation. tehtght ttght— and this is state of the nation. tonight right. we're going to be going— tonight right. we're going to be gehg eter— tonight right. we're going to be gehg tetth— tonight right. we're going to be going over fairly shortly to a preee— going over fairly shortly to a press conference— going over fairly shortly to a press conference in relation to eeeeheete— press conference in relation to oceangate who— press conference in relation to oceangate who have issued a etetemeht— oceangate who have issued a statement recent— oceangate who have issued a statement recent which i will

reee— statement recent which i will reet .— statement recent which i will reet . the— statement recent which i will read . the oceangate statement is read. the oceangate statement is as read. the oceangate statement is ee tettewe— read. the oceangate statement is ee tettewe. tte— read. the oceangate statement is as follows. we now— read. the oceangate statement is as follows. we now believe that our as follows. we now believe that ete— as follows. we now believe that cto .— as follows. we now believe that our ceo , stockton— as follows. we now believe that our ceo , stockton rush shahzada our ceo, stockton rush shahzada heweet— our ceo, stockton rush shahzada peweet ehe— our ceo, stockton rush shahzada dawood and his— our ceo, stockton rush shahzada dawood and his son are suleman heweet— dawood and his son are suleman dawood hamish— dawood and his son are suleman dawood hamish harding and paul heeh— dawood hamish harding and paul hehh wehe— dawood hamish harding and paul hehrv hehe hete— dawood hamish harding and paul henry nana have sadly been lost. theee— henry nana have sadly been lost. theee me— henry nana have sadly been lost. these men were— henry nana have sadly been lost. these men were true explorers whe— these men were true explorers whe eheret— these men were true explorers whe eheret e— these men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of ettehtere— who shared a distinct spirit of adventure and— who shared a distinct spirit of adventure and a— who shared a distinct spirit of adventure and a deep passion for expterhg— adventure and a deep passion for etpterhg ehe— adventure and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the wertt-e— exploring and protecting the world's oceans. _ exploring and protecting the world's oceans. our hearts are wtth— world's oceans. our hearts are wtth theee— world's oceans. our hearts are with these five— world's oceans. our hearts are with these five souls and every emhe— with these five souls and every memte et— with these five souls and every member of their— with these five souls and every member of their families during this member of their families during thte tregte— member of their families during this tragic time.— member of their families during this tragic time. we grieve the teee— this tragic time. we grieve the teee et— this tragic time. we grieve the teee et tte— this tragic time. we grieve the loss of life and— this tragic time. we grieve the loss of life and joy they tretght— loss of life and joy they tretght te— loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew. the— brought to everyone they knew. thte te— brought to everyone they knew. thte te eh— brought to everyone they knew. this is an extremely sad time for this is an extremely sad time her etr— this is an extremely sad time for our dedicated— this is an extremely sad time for our dedicated employees who are exhausted— for our dedicated employees who are exhausted and— for our dedicated employees who are exhausted and grieving teeptv— are exhausted and grieving teeptv-thte— are exhausted and grieving deeply this loss. the deeply over this loss. the ehttre— deeply over this loss. the entire _familyi deeply over this loss. thei entire—family is entire oceangate family is teeptv— entire oceangate family is deeply grateful the deeply grateful for the countless— deeply grateful for the- countless-women from countless men and women from mttttpte— countless men and women from multiple organisations the multiple organisations of the international— multiple organisations of the international community who etpetttet— international community who expedited wide— international community who expedited wide ranging resources and expedited wide ranging resources eht hete— expedited wide ranging resources and have worked— expedited wide ranging resources and have worked so very hard on the— and have worked so very hard on thte mteetem— and have worked so very hard on this mission. we— and have worked so very hard on this mission. we appreciate thet— this mission. we appreciatei thetr—ththg their commitment to finding theee— their commitment to finding theee thte— their commitment to finding these five explorers and their tewe— these five explorers and their tewe ehe— these five explorers and their tewe ehe-et- these five explorers and their days and of tireless work days and nights of tireless work in days and nights of tireless work h-et— days and nights of tireless work h-et etr— days and nights of tireless work h-et etr-eht- days and nights of tireless workj in _of our-and their in support of our crew and their temtttee— in support of our crew and their temtttee-te— in support of our crew and their temtttee-te e— in support of our crew and their families.-is a very- in support of our crew and their families. is a very sad families. this is a very sad tme— families. this is a very sad ttme ter— families. this is a very sad time for the— families. this is a very sad time for the entire explorer 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community and for each of the family-of those- community and for each of the family of those lost at family members of those lost at sea-respectfully— family members of those lost at sea respectfully that sea. we respectfully ask that the— sea. we respectfully ask that the-et— sea. we respectfully ask that the _of these - sea. we respectfully ask that the of these families the privacy of these families be reepeetet — the privacy of these families be respected during— the privacy of these families be respected during this most permut— respected during this most petmtt-.— respected during this most petmtt- he- respected during this most painful-. as i- respected during this most painful . as i say, we're painful time. as i say, we're wetthg— painful time. as i say, we're wetthg ter— painful time. as i say, we're waiting for the— painful time. as i say, we're waiting for the press conference to waiting for the press conference te me— waiting for the press conference te trem — waiting for the press conference to come from the— waiting for the press conference to come from the coastguard my thteretehthg— to come from the coastguard my understanding is— to come from the coastguard my understanding is that debris has teeh— understanding is that debris has teem tethe— understanding is that debris has been found and— understanding is that debris has been found and it— understanding is that debris has been found and it is thought to been found and it is thought to te thet— been found and it is thought to te thet the— been found and it is thought to be that the submersible that has teeh— be that the submersible that has teem teeh— be that the submersible that has been been found— be that the submersible that has been been found and therefore , been been found and therefore, as been been found and therefore, ee t— been been found and therefore, ee t eew.— been been found and therefore, ee t eew. wete— been been found and therefore, as i say, we've had— been been found and therefore, as i say, we've had the statement— as i say, we've had the statement about the loss of the. — statement about the loss of the. tte— statement about the loss of life. it's obviously a very sad ttme— life. it's obviously a very sad ttme ter— life. it's obviously a very sad time for the— life. it's obviously a very sad time for the people involved, for time for the people involved, ter thet— time for the people involved, for their family— time for the people involved, for their family is. and that mtet— for their family is. and that met te— for their family is. and that met te et— for their family is. and that must be at the— for their family is. and that must be at the forefront of our mhte— must be at the forefront of our minds currently— must be at the forefront of our minds currently .— must be at the forefront of our minds currently. but must be at the forefront of our minds currently . but there must be at the forefront of our minds currently. but there is eemethhg— minds currently. but there is something, isn't— minds currently. but there is something, isn't there? very hetere— something, isn't there? very heroic about— something, isn't there? very heroic about people who are wttthg— heroic about people who are wttthg te— heroic about people who are willing to take— heroic about people who are willing to take these risks, peepte— willing to take these risks, peepte whe — willing to take these risks, people who know that there are greet— people who know that there are greet tehgere— people who know that there are great dangers involved, but nonetheless— great dangers involved, but nonetheless push the boundaries of nonetheless push the boundaries et humeh— nonetheless push the boundaries of human ingenuity and understanding to go out and to go understanding to go out and to ge thte— understanding to go out and to ge hte the— understanding to go out and to go into the depths of the ocean or go into the depths of the ocean er thte— go into the depths of the ocean er hte the— go into the depths of the ocean or into the areas— go into the depths of the ocean or into the areas of— go into the depths of the ocean or into the areas of the world thet— or into the areas of the world thet heteh-t— or into the areas of the world that haven't been— or into the areas of the world that haven't been reached before . tht— that haven't been reached before . and we— that haven't been reached before . and we think— that haven't been reached before . and we think back over history . peepte— . and we think back over history , over people who— . and we think back over history , over people who have been wttthg— , over people who have been wttthg te— , over people who have been wttthg te te— , over people who have been willing to do this, who took the etepe— willing to do this, who took the etepe thte— willing to do this, who took the etepe hte the— willing to do this, who took the steps into the unknown, that hete— steps into the unknown, that hete tet— steps into the unknown, that hete tet te—

steps into the unknown, that have led to the— steps into the unknown, that have led to the society that we ttte — have led to the society that we ttte tm — have led to the society that we now live in. you— have led to the society that we now live in. you think of christopher— now live in. you think of christopher columbus going back, who christopher columbus going back, whe-wept— christopher columbus going back, whe-wept eth— christopher columbus going back, who-went off, he- christopher columbus going back, who went off, he had no who when he went off, he had no teee— who when he went off, he had no ttee whet— who when he went off, he had no idea what-was— who when he went off, he had no idea what-was-to- who when he went off, he had no idea what was to find. idea what he was going to find. tet— idea what he was going to find. teh-cepteh— idea what he was going to find. you-captain cook,- idea what he was going to find. you captain cook, who, you think of captain cook, who, of you think of captain cook, who, of-,_ you think of captain cook, who, et-. etee— you think of captain cook, who, et-. etee-h- you think of captain cook, who, of-, also-in the- you think of captain cook, who, of-, also-in the end| of course, also was in the end htttet— of course, also was in the end htttet-et— of course, also was in the end killed _of his- of course, also was in the end killed of his explorer killed because of his explorer mteetem— killed because of his explorer mission, which— killed because of his explorer mission, which led to so much h— mission, which led to so much increase in the— mission, which led to so much increase in the understanding of whet— increase in the understanding of whet the— increase in the understanding of what the world _ increase in the understanding of what the world is— increase in the understanding of what the world is like and perhepe— what the world is like and perhepe the— what the world is like and perhaps the last, most unexplored— perhaps the last, most unexplored area is the depths of the eetee— unexplored area is the depths of the ocean where— unexplored area is the depths of the ocean where these brave eette— the ocean where these brave souls were trying to find out whet— souls were trying to find out whet wee— souls were trying to find out whet gehg— souls were trying to find out what was going on, where the theme— what was going on, where the theme te. — what was going on, where the titanic is. but— what was going on, where the titanic is. but we're now coming , titanic is. but we're now coming i , titanic is. but we're now coming . t thteh— titanic is. but we're now coming . t thhh. te— titanic is. but we're now coming , i think, to the— titanic is. but we're now coming , i think, to the press conference. - , i think, to the press conference. it'sjust , i think, to the press conference. it's just beginning thet— conference. it's just beginning thetthere-e— conference. it's just beginning that there's somebody out the petttm— that there's somebody out the petttm. e— that there's somebody out the petttm. e tett— that there's somebody out the podium, a lady at the podium who is podium, a lady at the podium who he teghhhg— podium, a lady at the podium who he tegmhhg te— podium, a lady at the podium who is beginning to speak. so i hope we-heer— is beginning to speak. so i hope we-heer-eter— is beginning to speak. so i hope we-hear-over the - is beginning to speak. so i hope we hear over the past we can hear her over the past tew— we can hear her over the past tew tewe.— we can hear her over the past tew tewe. — we can hear her over the past few days. .afternoon.. we can hear her over the past. few days. .afternoon. soon, few days. this afternoon. soon, rear admiral john mauger be rear admiral john mauger will be providing most providing an update on the most recent findings from rov operations in search of the titan submersible. he will provide a brief statement and provide a brief statement and provide the opportunity for questions after. please limit your questions to one per outlet following the briefing, the joint information centre staff

and i will be here to