survivor of granddaughter of a survivor of the titanic to get a sense of the titanic to get a sense of the hell these grieving families are now going through. my guest is the former professional footballer and reality star ashley cain, who has embarked on the world's toughest survival race in memory of his little girl who he lost to leukaemia at the age of just eight months old. he tells his incredibly moving story before the end of the hour . in moving story before the end of the hour. in my take at ten, my first on air reaction to the news that a school pupil thinks they're a cat and teacher are encouraging it. the case for home schooling grows by the day. you won't want to miss my explosive response to this shocking story . shocking story. so a busy two hours to come try and get the kids into bed, put something cold and fizzy in the fridge. after all, it's a hot

friday night. let's make it an evening to remember. so my big opinion is on its way. my verdict on brexit, seven years on. first, a headline with rory smith . on. first, a headline with rory smith. thank on. first, a headline with rory smith . thank you very much, smith. thank you very much, mark. — smith. thank you very much, mark. mortgage— thank you very much, mark. mortgage holders struggling— mark. mortgage holders struggling with repayments will be given— struggling with repayments will be given a— struggling with repayments will be be e be— struggling with repayments will be given a 12 month grace period before— be given a 12 month grace period before repossessions begin . it's before repossessions begin. it's aber— before repossessions begin. it's ebber bbe— before repossessions begin. it's after the chancellor met with mortgage — after the chancellor met with mortgage lenders to discuss what more can be done— mortgage lenders to discuss what more can be done to support ebbggbng— more can be done to support struggling households under the measures being— struggling households under the measures being rolled out in the coming— measures being rolled out in the eembng wees-b— measures being rolled out in the coming weeks. borrowers will be abbe— coming weeks. borrowers will be ebbe be— coming weeks. borrowers will be able to extend— coming weeks. borrowers will be able to extend the— coming weeks. borrowers will be able to extend the term of their mortgages— able to extend the term of their merbgegee er— able to extend the term of their mortgages or temporarily move to an mortgages or temporarily move to en bbbereeb— mortgages or temporarily move to an interest only— mortgages or temporarily move to an interest only plan . liebert an interest only plan. liebert says— an interest only plan. liebert save me— an interest only plan. liebert eeye be new— an interest only plan. liebert says the new measures are a weak eeebeeb bub— says the new measures are a weak rb,eeebee bub jeremy— says the new measures are a weak response, but jeremy hunt says the bees— response, but jeremy hunt says bbe bbebe ebb— response, but jeremy hunt says the plans will help those who face — the plans will help those who face bobbe— the plans will help those who face losing their— the plans will help those who face losing their homes. the mobb— face losing their homes. the most significant— face losing their homes. the most significant thing is that they can pick up the phone to their bank or their mortgage lender and talk about their situation without any worry that

it will impact their credit score. and if they decide to make their payments easier by extending the period of their mortgage or by going to an interest only package that can go back to their original package without any questions asked, without any impact on their credit score within six months. that's the reassurance that people like martin lewis have been saying will make a big difference for families in those situations . braintree district situations. braintree district council has lost an appeal over plans to use the weather's field airfield in essex to house asylum seekers. the council brebebb— asylum seekers. the council brought a— asylum seekers. the council brought a legal— the council brought a legal action against the heme— brought a legal action against the home office— brought a legal action against the home office over the proposed— the home office over the proposed bee— the home office over the proposed use of the site to accommodate— proposed use of the site to accommodate up to 1700 male eeybbm— accommodate up to 1700 male asylum seekers— accommodate up to 1700 male asylum seekers for up to six membe— asylum seekers for up to six mebbbe. bbe— asylum seekers for up to six months. the local authority argued— months. the local authority argued bbe— months. the local authority argued the proposals would breeeb— argued the proposals would breach planning control, but judges— breach planning control, but judges dismissed the appeal, ruling— judges dismissed the appeal, mung be— judges dismissed the appeal, ruling in favour— judges dismissed the appeal, ruling in favour of the home office— ruling in favour of the home office a— ruling in favour of the home office a man— ruling in favour of the home office a man has— ruling in favour of the home office a man has pleaded guilty to office a man has pleaded guilty be be— office a man has pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of 39 people

bubb— to the manslaughter of 39 people bend debe— to the manslaughter of 39 people bend beeb be— to the manslaughter of 39 people found dead in a— to the manslaughter of 39 people found dead in a lorry trailer in essex— found dead in a lorry trailer in essex be— found dead in a lorry trailer in essex in 2019. _ found dead in a lorry trailer in essex in 2019. 50— found dead in a lorry trailer in essex in 2019. 50 year old barbe— essex in 2019. 50 year old marius draghi_ essex in 2019. 50 year old marius draghi was detained by bobbe— marius draghi was detained by bebee be— marius draghi was detained by police in romania last year. he ebereeb— police in romania last year. he was charged with— police in romania last year. he was charged with 39 counts of mebebebebber— was charged with 39 counts of manslaughter and conspiracy to asset— manslaughter and conspiracy to assist unlawful— manslaughter and conspiracy to assist unlawful immigration. bee— assist unlawful immigration. be-e ebbeeeb— assist unlawful immigration. he's alleged to— assist unlawful immigration. he's alleged to be the ringleader— he's alleged to be the ringleader of- he's alleged to be the ringleader of a people's smuggling— ringleader of a people's smuggling gang in 2021. four ebber— smuggling gang in 2021. four other defendants were jailed for thee— other defendants were jailed for bbeb robes— other defendants were jailed for their roles in— other defendants were jailed for their roles in the— other defendants were jailed for their roles in the deaths . their roles in the deaths. seeke— their roles in the deaths. we be— their roles in the deaths. strike at heathrow have been eebee— strike at heathrow have been eebbeb eb— strike at heathrow have been called off as— strike at heathrow have been called off as workers accept a bey— called off as workers accept a bay eeeb— called off as workers accept a new pay deal. more than 2000 ebb— new pay deal. more than 2000 staff members— new pay deal. more than 2000 staff members were due to strike for staff members were due to strike be eb— staff members were due to strike be be days— staff members were due to strike for 31 days throughout the summer . the— for 31 days throughout the summer. the unite union says werereb— summer. the unite union says werereb wru— summer. the unite union says workers will receive a pay eb— workers will receive a pay increase of between 15.5 . and increase of between 15.5. and wb. — increase of between 15.5. and wb. arre— increase of between 15.5. and wb. are we— increase of between 15.5. and 17.5. and the royal family were out 175. and the royal family were our br— 175. and the royal family were our be bree— 175. and the royal family were out in force today— 17.5. and the royal family were out in force today at ascot. the king— out in force today at ascot. the king erre— out in force today at ascot. the king are beer,— out in force today at ascot. the king and queen, they led the traditional— king and queen, they led the traditional royal— king and queen, they led the traditional royal carriage breeeeere— traditional royal carriage procession that was around the parade— procession that was around the bwreee wre— procession that was around the parade rbrrg br— procession that was around the parade ring in glorious sunshine bobby.— parade ring in glorious sunshine today. following— parade ring in glorious sunshine today. following them in another

eerrbeee— today. following them in another eerrbeee wee— today. following them in another carriage was the— today. following them in another carriage was the prince and brbrreeee— carriage was the prince and brbrreeee eb— carriage was the prince and princess of wales, kate was weerbwe— princess of wales, kate was weerbwe e— princess of wales, kate was weerrrrg a red— princess of wales, kate was wearing a red alexander mcqueen breee— wearing a red alexander mcqueen breee erre— wearing a red alexander mcqueen dress and e— wearing a red alexander mcqueen dress and a matching philip werew— dress and a matching philip rreeew bee.— dress and a matching philip treacy hat. they were also joined— treacy hat. they were also robbed by— treacy hat. they were also joined by acting royalty . that joined by acting royalty. that barre— joined by acting royalty. that was dame judi _ joined by acting royalty. that was dame judi dench , who was in was dame judi dench, who was in the was dame judi dench, who was in we breeeeeberre— was dame judi dench, who was in the processions for— was dame judi dench, who was in the processions for carriage tv errbrre— the processions for carriage tv errbrre babb— the processions for carriage tv online dab+ radio. and on brew.— online dab+ radio. and on tunein. this— online dab+ radio. and on tunein. this is— online dab+ radio. and on tunein. this is gb news. now, bbeweb— tunein. this is gb news. now, rbewgb, beek— tunein. this is gb news. now, though, back to— tunein. this is gb news. now, though, back to ._ though, back to. mark marks.— though, back to. mark . thanks, ryan. - though, back to. marki i thanks, ryan. we'll though, back to. mark thanks, ryan. we'll see you at ten. mark dolan ten. welcome to mark dolan tonight, my opinion, tonight, in my big opinion, brexit. seven years on my verdict . the so—called stupid verdict. the so—called stupid people who voted for it were anything but in the big story. following the tragic death of five people in a submarine this week, we'll speak to the great grand daughter of a survivor of the titanic to get a sense of the titanic to get a sense of the hell these grieving families must now be going through. my

mark meets guest is the former professional footballer and reality star ashley cain, who has embarked upon the world's toughest survival race in memory of his little girl who he lost to leukaemia at the age of just eight months old. he tells us his incredibly moving story before the end of the hour . in before the end of the hour. in my take at ten, my first on air reaction to the news that a pupil at school thinks she's a cat and teachers are encouraging it . the case for home schooling it. the case for home schooling grows by the day. you won't want to miss my explosive response to this shocking story . as this shocking story. as biological males continue to participate in female sport , participate in female sport, will the woke war on women ever end? will the woke war on women ever end.7 i'll will the woke war on women ever end? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, legendary olympic swimmer sharron davies obe mark dolan. tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030 sharp with the three top pundits who haven't

been told what to say and who don't follow the script . emma don't follow the script. emma burnell aidan magee mike porky parry tonight i'll be asking the punstis parry tonight i'll be asking the pundits is the idea of the british gentleman no more our right wing women more attractive than lefties? not my statement . than lefties? not my statement. a new survey also are vegans a pain in the? plus your emails, especially the spicy ones. market gb news dot com. this is the least censored programme on the least censored programme on the british airways is now. this show has a golden rule. what is that rule? it's a bullet—proof rule. it's my red line . it's rule. it's my red line. it's a line i won't cross. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a cracking friday night of entertainment we have for you. big debates, big stories. but let's start with my big opinion . seven years ago

big opinion. seven years ago today, 17.5 million people voted for britain's exit from the political bloc known as the european union . it was a result european union. it was a result that surprised many, not least the media, corporate and political establishment who had focussed all of their energies on the remain cause with the likes of george osborne predicting armageddon. if we left . well, it didn't happen . left. well, it didn't happen. after a sustained effort by undemocratic remainers to reverse the decision, not least the cervix. free leader of the opposition, keir starmer, who pushed for a second referendum. um, another example of his catastrophically bad judgement. we ultimately got brexit across the line. we're out now. there have been problems . eu nationals have been problems. eu nationals who have perfectly good grounds to live here going through visa hell, small businesses in particular dealing with a quagmire of paperwork. many of whom are giving up exporting altogether. this is a problem for a possible impact on

economic growth and continued friction on trade and the passage of goods . but what do passage of goods. but what do you expect when we have exited a political and economic union that we've been part of for over four decades? it's ridiculous to judge brexit. so soon. but even if you do make an appraisal of brexit right now, today, tonight on this show, the case for our departure grows ever stronger. and i say that as someone who voted remain. but unfashionably accepted the result and decided to embrace it. we have acted unilaterally on the vaccine rollout whilst the european commission's ursula von der leyen threatened to blockade suppues leyen threatened to blockade supplies to the uk and even threatened erecting a hard border between northern ireland and the republic. border between northern ireland and the republic . whilst net and the republic. whilst net migration is at unsustainable high levels, it would be immeasurable higher if we still had free movement. it would be a

million, maybe a million and a half every year. who knows? brexit was an immediate insurance policy against ever closer union and effectively becoming a member states of the united states of europe. the eu , through ideology and economic necessity, is fast becoming a federalist superpower . even most federalist superpower. even most remainers wouldn't want to be part of that . brexit was an part of that. brexit was an immediate insurance policy against a single european army. look how the eu dithered and delayed over ukraine on brexit is an end to payments of £2 billion a month, which over two decades amounts to the entire cost of the pandemic. decades amounts to the entire cost of the pandemic . we've also cost of the pandemic. we've also saved a one off cost of almost £200 billion, which would have been our contribution to the eu's disastrous overreaction to covid. so that number on the side of the bus wasn't true. it's much higher. in fact,

brexit is an insurance policy against a hellish pandemic treaty that the eu are currently drawing up, which would enforce draconian lockdowns. europe wide in the event of a future pandemic outside of the eu. we can do a sweden who have now clearly won the argument on pandemic measures. no lockdowns, no mask mandates and the lowest pandemic deaths . since 2020. pandemic deaths. since 2020. brexit has given us the ability to trade with the rest of the world, including the cptpp, which i thought was a medicine for a sore throat. but is in fact a trading bloc largely other than the whole of the eu made up of fast rising economies, not those in gradual decline like on the continent, plus people forget to mention this, but we do have tariff free trade with the eu as well. that's right . it turns out trade with the eu as well. that's right. it turns out we're still trading with the eu very successfully . who knew brexit?

successfully. who knew brexit? it enabled the unprecedented aukus deal on nuclear subs with australia and the united states , something we wouldn't have had. a cat's in hell chance of agreeing if we were still in the bloc. brexit it has been an immediate insurance policy against the euro , a hellish , one against the euro, a hellish, one size fits all currency which favours the likes of germany and which punishes the likes of italy. yes we are in the mother of all messes at the moment economically, but we can pull all the levers that we need to in our own national interest without having to consult 27 other economies . and let's talk other economies. and let's talk about the economy. the uk enjoyed the highest growth in the g7 for the last two years, and despite the prophets of doom at the imf , britain didn't have at the imf, britain didn't have at the imf, britain didn't have a year long recession. in fact, we have avoided recession altogether. meanwhile both germany and the eurozone are in recession and they didn't have brexit. funny that it's early days for brexit. this country is

taking baby steps with its newfound independence. and yes , newfound independence. and yes, plenty of brexiteers would like to see a bolder approach. the restoration of northern ireland's integrity as part of the uk and more brexit benefits . but i believe that will come . . but i believe that will come. brexit was about sovereignty , brexit was about sovereignty, absolutely, but it was about democracy too. and as remain voices tried for years to reverse or dilute the decision . reverse or dilute the decision. i genuinely feared for civil order in this country. thank god those seeking to reverse brexit did not prevail and they must not prevail in the future , not prevail in the future, including under a labour government who speak terrifyingly of reconnecting with brussels as brexit is not perfect. it's a work in progress. but the case for our political diplomatic and economic independence grows by the day. the people we were told were stupid for voting for it were stupid for voting for it were not so stupid . after all,

were not so stupid. after all, brexit is a challenge. a conundrum and a puzzle . but it's conundrum and a puzzle. but it's a gift to one which i believe will keep on giving . will keep on giving. one day i'm going to break my ankle running across that studio . so lovely to have your company. your reaction, please to my big opinion, your appraisal of brexit. we've been running an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking if there was a referendum tomorrow, would you vote brexit or remain? so jump on please that on twitter please vote in that and me via email how and let me know via email how you brexit is going . mark you think brexit is going. mark gb news .com . let's bring in my gb news .com. let's bring in my top pundits tonight. delighted top pundits tonight. delighted to welcome political consultant emma burnell broadcaster. to welcome political consultant emma burnell broadcaster . aidan emma burnell broadcaster. aidan magee and fleet street legend mike porky parry . great to have

mike porky parry. great to have all three of you with me . eight all three of you with me. eight and let's start with you. your appraisal of brexit. i'm disappointed with it actually, but i can't have suspected that this would be the case because i never believed in those who were pledging to deliver it . so, for pledging to deliver it. so, for example, i mean, i d g c so, for example, i mean, i rememberi example, i mean, i remember i was overseas. i didn't vote in we— was overseas. i didn't vote in bbe—eb— was overseas. i didn't vote in bbe—eb-bmel was overseas. i didn't vote in| the—at-time. i the referendum at the time. i never believed— the referendum at the time. i never believed the never believed with all the werew— never believed with all the weight expectation against weight of expectation against it, weight of expectation against bb—beewe- weight of expectation against. it,_leave campaign, it, against the leave campaign, wbb— with the government paying bewwrree— with the government paying fortunes for— with the government paying fortunes for leaflets go out fortunes for leaflets to go out to fortunes for leaflets to go out be beers— fortunes for leaflets to go out be eeere .— fortunes for leaflets to go out be eeere , be — fortunes for leaflets to go out to doors , to door— fortunes for leaflets to go out to doors , to door on through to doors, to door on through bebber— to doors, to door on through letter boxes _ to doors, to door on through letter boxes for— to doors, to door on through letter boxes for the campaign bbeb— letter boxes for the campaign bbeb, yew— letter boxes for the campaign bbeb, you knew— letter boxes for the campaign that, you know ,_ letter boxes for the campaign that, you know , it was pretty that, you know, it was pretty breed,— that, you know, it was pretty one sided, wasn't it, towards in bewewr—bee- favour of leave. you had the webebb— favour of leave. you had the weight expectations. had weight of expectations. i had the weight of expectations. i had bbe—eb- weight of expectations. i had bbe—eb bbel weight of expectations. i hadi the _of the will the weight of kind of the will of-government- the weight of kind of the will of government behind of the government behind it. i felt of the government behind it. i bebb—bbe- of the government behind it. i bebb—bbe rew| felt the blair running the tory party— felt the blair running the tory berbwlbbe— felt the blair running the tory party-the time.— felt the blair running the tory party the time. blair and party at the time. blair and eeberrre— party at the time. blair and osborne and— party at the time. blair and osborne and cameron running it. i osborne and cameron running it. bbebb— osborne and cameron running it. bbebb bbeb— osborne and cameron running it. . bebb bbeb bbew— osborne and cameron running it. i felt that they were very much bebbwe— i felt that they were very much bebbrre bb— i felt that they were very much behind it-they_ i felt that they were very much behind it they there behind it and they were there wee-emergency- behind it and they were there was emergency budget was the emergency budget ebrebebb— straight afterwards we were brembeee— straight afterwards we were promised and— straight afterwards we were promised and they on the promised and they said on the eeerebebe— promised and they said on the members—be,- promised and they said on the doorsteps_10, oh. promised and they said on the. doorsteps_10, oh yeah, doorsteps of number 10, oh yeah, no, doorsteps of number 10, oh yeah, we—bbeb. - no, we don't need that. after alb— no, we don't need that. after ebb-bee.— no, we don't need that. after ebb-bee. se- no, we don't need that. after all,-lies. so i- no, we don't need that. after all, lies. so i never all, so many lies. so i never bebbeweb— all, so many lies. so i never believed,-when- all, so many lies. so i never believed, when we saw believed, even when we saw bbeee— believed, even when we saw bbeeelewe— believed, even when we saw those, give theresa those, to give way to theresa mav— those, to give way to theresa mew ewe — those, to give way to theresa may and .insipid - those, to give way to theresa may and insipid government may and that insipid government that may and that insipid government web—ber- that she presided over for a fewr_ that she presided over for a few-e— that she presided over for a bewle eewbbe— that she presided over for a few,.a couple of- that she presided over for a few, a couple of years. i few, for a couple of years. i never believed— few, for a couple of years. i never believed was few, for a couple of years. i never believed -was any

never believed there was any any web— never believed there was any any wee—ee— kind of ability to do it. i never thought- kind of ability to do it. i never thought that boris johnson had never thought that boris johnson bee—be— never thought that boris johnson bee—be ee— never thought that boris johnson bee—be ee bb- never thought that boris johnson had—to do it either.- had the ability to do it either. i had the ability to do it either. . we-b— had the ability to do it either. i wasn't even— had the ability to do it either. i wasn't even convinced was i wasn't even convinced he was a he i wasn't even convinced he was a be-e— i wasn't even convinced he was a be-e bwre— i wasn't even convinced he was a he-a pure brexiteer- i wasn't even convinced he was a he a pure brexiteer from the he was a pure brexiteer from the bew— he was a pure brexiteer from the very beginning- — he was a pure brexiteer from the very beginning- lb— he was a pure brexiteer from the very beginning. it could have very beginning. so it could have been— very beginning. so it could have beer-bebber. — very beginning. so it could have been better. wonder been a lot better. i wonder if bbere—brwel there have been some true breebbeere— there have been some true brexiteers charge the brexiteers in charge of the wbebe— brexiteers in charge of the wbebe bbbwe— brexiteers in charge of the whole thing from day one. i bbbrrb— whole thing from day one. i bbbwb bb— whole thing from day one. i think it might— whole thing from day one. i think it might have better. think it might have been better. it think it might have been better. bb—eeme— think it might have been better. bb—eerre beebbe- think it might have been better. it_some people to. it took some some people to eberre— it took some some people to were-bu.- it took some some people to stand-euineveri it took some some people to. stand-euinever felt stand up to the eu. i never felt were— stand up to the eu. i never felt bbere-bbe— stand up to the eu. i never felt there-the political- stand up to the eu. i never felt there the political will or there was the political will or there was the political will or bbe—ee- the conviction to do so and bbeb-e— the conviction to do so and that's what's— the conviction to do so and that's what's left me disappointed later. disappointed seven years later. abbbeweb—bbe- although i don't regret the easier— although i don't regret the decision to— although i don't regret the decision to leave at all, can i ebb— decision to leave at all, can i ebb-e— decision to leave at all, can i ask-a personal- decision to leave at all, can i ask a personal question? ask you a personal question? bre— ask you a personal question? bid you— ask you a personal question? bid you ewbberb— ask you a personal question? “j r: mix fl yes, did you support brexit? yes, i support since 1992. did you support brexit? yes, i support-since 1992. all- support it. since 1992. all rbebb. — support it. since 1992. all rbebb. -mw— support it. since 1992. allj right-mv-up- support it. since 1992. all. right-mv-up- if right. i put my hand up. if bbere— right. i put my hand up. if bbere we— right. i put my hand up. if there waslreferendum - right. i put my hand up. if there was referendum tomorrow, there was a referendum tomorrow, would without yeah. would you? without doubt. yeah. i would you? without doubt. yeah. b-wewbe. — would you? without doubt. yeah. b-wewbe. -wewl i would. i would. because you were. — i would. i would. because you were. .bebe— i would. i would. because you hope. .hope that- i would. i would. because you hope. hope that someday hope. you hope that someday bbere-e— hope. you hope that someday. there's—generation there's going to be a generation of there's going to be a generation eb—wbe— there's going to be a generation eb—wbe ere- there's going to be a generation of_who are able- there's going to be a generation of_who are able to. of politicians who are able to eebwer— of politicians who are able to eebwer b.— of politicians who are able to deliver it. we— of politicians who are able to deliver it. we haven't seen that so_our political- so far. i think our political eeeeeeb— so far. i think our political. classes _we've so far. i think our political- classes _we've ever classes are as bad as we've ever eeerrlerw— classes are as bad as we've ever seen any generation. i've seen in any generation. i've been— seen in any generation. i've been -through. - been alive through. can't wait to been alive through. can't wait be beer— been alive through. can't wait to hear emma thoughts. to hear emma burnell thoughts. but your but mike porky parry, your thoughts? brexit thoughts? your verdict? brexit seven now you seven years on. yeah. now you see you say seven years on. yeah. now you see-you say seven- seven years on. yeah. now you see -you say seven years| see seven. you say seven years bwb— see seven. you say seven years bwb bbeb-e— see seven. you say seven years on. but that's since— see seven. you say seven years on. but that's since the vote. bwb— on. but that's since the vote. bwb bre— on. but that's since the vote. bwb ire-ib— on. but that's since the vote. but in-it was- but in fact, it was only rebbbbee— but in fact, it was only ratified .the- but in fact, it was only ratified the day but in fact, it was only. ratified .the-day of ratified on the first day of 2021.— ratified on the first day of me be — ratified on the first day of 2021. so politicians have had bees— 2021. so politicians have had beee bbere— 2021. so politicians have had less than three— 2021. so politicians have had less than three years to

eebwebw— less than three years to actually get— less than three years to actually get stuck in to what we— actually get stuck in to what bbew ebewbe— actually get stuck in to what they should do. _ actually get stuck in to what they should do. remember we've had they should do. remember we've bed we— they should do. remember we've had the invasion— they should do. remember we've had the invasion of— they should do. remember we've had the invasion of russia into umbre— had the invasion of russia into ukraine. we've— had the invasion of russia into ukraine. we've had the pandemic . se— ukraine. we've had the pandemic . so politicians— ukraine. we've had the pandemic . so politicians are— ukraine. we've had the pandemic . so politicians are obviously concerned with— . so politicians are obviously concerned with issues which are seeing— concerned with issues which are going be— concerned with issues which are going be emeeb— concerned with issues which are going be erreeb we— concerned with issues which are going to smack us all in the rece— going to smack us all in the face, whereas— going to smack us all in the face, whereas brexit is going to be e— face, whereas brexit is going to be e bere— face, whereas brexit is going to be e berg berm— face, whereas brexit is going to be a long term project , face, whereas brexit is going to be a long term project, but i were-b— be a long term project, but i eerr-b bbbrw— be a long term project, but i don't think we'll— be a long term project, but i don't think we'll see the berrebbbe— don't think we'll see the benefits of _ don't think we'll see the benefits of brexit for another ten benefits of brexit for another berr weer — benefits of brexit for another bere weere bwb— benefits of brexit for another ten years. but but i'm very bmbreeeee— ten years. but but i'm very impressed about what we've ebreeew— impressed about what we've ebreeew geb— impressed about what we've already got done . you mentioned already got done. you mentioned brewe— already got done. you mentioned some trade deals— already got done. you mentioned some trade deals there. what ebewb— some trade deals there. what ebewb bbe— some trade deals there. what about the trans— some trade deals there. what about the trans pacific rail eeebe— about the trans pacific rail eeebe ebew— about the trans pacific rail deal? okay, correct. trade i'm web— deal? okay, correct. trade i'm web werbe— deal? okay, correct. trade i'm not world trade _ deal? okay, correct. trade i'm not world trade deal. the trans beebbe— not world trade deal. the trans pacific trade _ not world trade deal. the trans pacific trade deal.— not world trade deal. the trans pacific trade deal. that would be interesting.— pacific trade deal. that would be interesting. yeah. / be interesting. yeah. yeah, weeb. beb— be interesting. yeah. yeah, web we .— be interesting. yeah. yeah, yeah. tpp , which- be interesting. yeah. yeah, yeah. tpp , which i- be interesting. yeah. / tpp , which i thought was yeah. tpp, which i thought was a bee.— yeah. tpp, which i thought was a we veeb— yeah. tpp, which i thought was a tail. yeah exactly.— yeah. tpp, which i thought was a tail. yeah exactly. _ yeah. tpp, which i thought was a tail. yeah exactly. but- gilt?“ tpp, which i thought was a tail. yeah exactly. but the brewe— tail. yeah exactly. but the trans pacific one means no. the trans pacific partnership tonight. yeah. i'm sorry. i'm suffering from hay fever, by the way, which makes me look a bit stupid , but i'm not really. it's stupid, but i'm not really. it's not possible for you to look stupid. no. anyway, the trans pacific partnership means that we've to the we've got now got access to the biggest trading bloc in the world. and let's face it, where

is the world expanding ? it's in is the world expanding? it's in the pacific regions. okay and the pacific regions. okay and the pacific regions go as far as touching china and south east asia all kind of stuff. asia and all that kind of stuff. what i really dismay like is the vindictive ness with which the european unions have met the democrat decision of the british people to get out of europe. so, for instance , it's an utter for instance, it's an utter disgrace. people say brexit isn't working. one of the reasons is they're trying not to make it work. is the europeans don't want any other country to suddenly opt out of their mass socialist bloc where everybody's got to be equal greece has got to be equal to germany. what a load of rubbish. that just means germans get richer and people in greece get poorer. so because they don't want anybody else to come out and there are other countries , including italy, countries, including italy, under their new ruler, very able lady, right. who are thinking about do we need to be mbappe? so they want to make it as bad for us as possible. so they they put sorts of red tape in the

put all sorts of red tape in the way, whereas they should have a friendly trading agreement with us. because remember our mercedes benz still want to sell a lot of their cars in the united kingdom where we've got more billionaires than anybody else in europe. okay, we still beve— else in europe. okay, we still bewe bbe— else in europe. okay, we still have the deficit— else in europe. okay, we still have the deficit where - " e. okay, we still have the deficit where we buy more from them— have the deficit where we buy more from them than they buy. abeebwbebw. — more from them than they buy. absolutely. .are_ more from them than they buy. absolutely. are the customer absolutely. we are the customer . ribbe— absolutely. we are the customer . wbbe-cewbe— absolutely. we are the customer . mike -coyte -clocks i . mike paul coyte perry clocks egebrreb— . mike paul coyte perry clocks egebrrebibwb— . mike paul coyte perry clocks against but emma, the bottom against us, but emma, the bottom line against us, but emma, the bottom brrelbbeb— against us, but emma, the bottom bbrrelbbeb .— against us, but emma, the bottom line-that i mean,— against us, but emma, the bottom line-that i mean, i— against us, but emma, the bottom line that i mean, i voted line is that i mean, i voted bre— line is that i mean, i voted remain. i'm guessing you voted bereebrr— remain. i'm guessing you voted remain-actually- remain. i'm guessing you voted remain actually the remain too. but actually the brebbebe— remain too. but actually the prophets-doom - remain too. but actually the prophets doom have been prophets of doom have been brewed— prophets of doom have been brewee wrerrg— prophets of doom have been proved wrong time and time egebrr. — proved wrong time and time egebrr. _brexitl proved wrong time and time. again._brexit gets again. the case for brexit gets ebrerrger— again. the case for brexit gets stronger—well,- again. the case for brexit getsi stronger—well, no, stronger by the day. well, no, i eee-b— stronger by the day. well, no, i don't believe that be true at don't believe that to be true at all. sure . i mean, i all. i'm not sure. i mean, i think we've got two different voices we voices here, one saying we haven't got proper brexit out, one saying brexit is brilliant and we're getting all these things out of it. and i think the problem is that all of the problem is, is that all of these things the mix when these things are in the mix when we talk about brexit. now i was a remainer and i haven't changed my mind on whether i think that was the right decision or not. but we have left and it's like

saying i've made a mistake, so i'm going to invent a time machine and go back and undo that. that can't happen. so what we need to do now is think about where we are and how we go forward. and it's quite interesting because you were saying in your monologue that you're really worried about labour reconnecting with brussels. mike is saying, we really need to have a better relationship with brussels. those are two different ways of saying the same thing. i'm worried about the g q i'm worried about the customs union, wbbeb— worried about the customs union, wbbeb rerreee— worried about the customs union, wbbeb ree— worried about the customs union, which means no trade deals or a ebrrgbe— which means no trade deals or a ebrrgbe ebrrgbe— which means no trade deals or a single single market, which means free movement that is ewrrerrbbw— means free movement that is currently labour— means free movement that is currently labour want both of bbeee— currently labour want both of bbeee bbbrrge. — currently labour want both of those things. yeah, some labour memereb— those things. yeah, some labour members myself— those things. yeah, some labour members myself probably mebweee. — members myself probably included. keir- members myself probably included. ” included. keir starmer wants things he's gagging for it. have ruled it out. is ruled out. ruled it out. it is ruled out. it won't be ruled it out. that means it'll be e e lair: e that means it'll be happening. ” means it'll be happening. keir sbermer— means it'll be happening. keir starmer wants— means it'll be happening. keir starmer wants to _ means it'll be happening. keir starmer wants to be- means it'll be happening. keir starmer wants to be slave starmer wants to be a slave to the europeans. now he wants to be a slave. he wants to go back and for those 71.4 and apologise for those 71.4 million stupid people who voted to leave europe . 71 calling

to leave europe. 71 calling bbeee— to leave europe. 71 calling bbeee beebbe— to leave europe. 71 calling these people stupid- a 71 calling these people stupid . i'm not. these people stupid. i'm not. rm— these people stupid. i'm not. b-m web.— these people stupid. i'm not. b-m web. we,— these people stupid. i'm not. i'm not. no, i'm— these people stupid. i'm not. i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at ebb.— i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at we we,— i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at we be, im— i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at all. no, i'm not.— i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at all. no, i'm not. _ i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at all. no, i'm not. /rir. iii i'm not. no, i'm not stupid at all. no, i'm not. v/rir. iii g all. no, i'm not. you are using . beewee— all. no, i'm not. you are using . excuse me. excuse- all. no, i'm not. you are using . excuse me. excuse me- all. no, i'm not. you are using . excuse me. excuse me to be a slave. no, i am a slave.- excuse me. no, i am a slave. that's slave. no, i am a slave. that's werw— slave. no, i am a slave. that's one very senior. one- no, i am a slave. that's one very senior. oiri rrig one very senior. one very senior. let's not do that. hang on. let's actually have a decent emereebemb— on. let's actually have a decent conversation about— cit" let's actually have a decent conversation about the benefits. webb— conversation about the benefits. webb. bu— conversation about the benefits. web. in beb— conversation about the benefits. well, i'll tell you _ conversation about the benefits. well, i'll tell you a— conversation about the benefits. well, i'll tell you a fact- conversation about the benefits. well, i'll tell you a fact that we can make this work and how we all work together in the same direction in a country which has now left. i will tell you a feeb— now left. i will tell you a beeb. e— now left. i will tell you a beeb. e werw— now left. i will tell you a fact, a very senior- i will tell you a fact, a very senior person in me— fact, a very senior person in bbe bebewr— fact, a very senior person in the labour party— fact, a very senior person in the labour party movement for eeeeeee— the labour party movement for eeeeeee ew— the labour party movement for eeeeeee .— the labour party movement for decades now , when i said to him, decades now, when i said to him, why— decades now, when i said to him, wbw web-b— decades now, when i said to him, wbw wem-b wew— decades now, when i said to him, why won't you respect the democratic— why won't you respect the democratic vote of the 17.4 mbbbem — democratic vote of the 17.4 million who _ democratic vote of the 17.4 million who voted to come out, do million who voted to come out, be wew— million who voted to come out, be wew mew— million who voted to come out, do you know what— million who voted to come out, do you know what he said? he eere— do you know what he said? he eere mew— do you know what he said? he said they didn't— do you know what he said? he said they didn't know what they webmg — said they didn't know what they were voting for— said they didn't know what they were voting for .— said they didn't know what they were voting for . they've always were voting for. they've always regereee— were voting for. they've always regereee bbe— were voting for. they've always regarded the people who voted for regarded the people who voted ber brexbb— regarded the people who voted ber breebb ee— regarded the people who voted for brexit as something stupid . for brexit as something stupid. ame— for brexit as something stupid. ame wew— for brexit as something stupid. ame wew bbmb— for brexit as something stupid. and you think everyone- for brexit as something stupid. and you think everyone thinks everyone's an idiot ? that's not everyone's an idiot? that's not how we're going to make this work. okay, well, look, a constructive— okay, well, look, a constructive approach from tony wwegebb. — constructive approach from tony hudgell. what's— constructive approach from tony hudgell. what's your reaction? brewe— hudgell. what's your reaction? brexbb. eee— hudgell. what's your reaction? brexit, seven years on, if you ebe— brexit, seven years on, if you

ere-brewi— brexit, seven years on, if you did-brexit-you. brexit, seven years on, if you. did-brexit-you vote did vote, brexit would you vote egeme—meeb- did vote, brexit would you vote egeme—mexb m- did vote, brexit would you vote again?_next in the. did vote, brexit would you vote. again?_next in the big again? coming up next in the big sew.— again? coming up next in the big sew-bbe— again? coming up next in the big sew-me bregbe- story, following the tragic eeebb — story, following the tragic eeebb-beebbe- story, following the tragic death people a death of five people in a submarine— death of five people in a submarine this we're death of five people in a- submarine this-we're going submarine this week, we're going to submarine this week, we're going be—bbe— submarine this week, we're going be—bbe bregremme| to speak live on the programme to speak live on the programme be-ereeb— to speak live on the programme to great granddaughter of a to the great granddaughter of a ewrwwer— to the great granddaughter of a ewrwwer eb— to the great granddaughter of a survivor of original titanic survivor of the original titanic . bbeb-e—

listening to gb news radio . the listening to gb news radio. the people have spoken . a big people have spoken. a big reaction to my big opinion , reaction to my big opinion, although i voted remain in my view , the case for brexit gets view, the case for brexit gets stronger by the day. so he says, hi mark, i would vote for brexit again. i still do not regret it, peter says. dear mark, brexit wasn't just about immigration. it was about getting rid of the mafia . vatican bank. do your mafia. vatican bank. do your research . church how about this research. church how about this from peter? peter says, hi mark, brexit is working remarkably well, especially given the pandemic and the war in ukraine as well as theresa may's government's attempts to undermine and delay for two clear years. peter goes to on

say, i would vote for brexit again. well, we've been running again. well, we've been running a mark dolan tonight people's poll on that. i'll bring you the results shortly. but it's time now for the big story. and let's get more reaction to the tragic death of five people who died in a small submarine this week whilst exploring the wreckage of the titanic . we're joined now by the titanic. we're joined now by the titanic. we're joined now by the great granddaughter of a survivor of the original 1914 titanic disaster, shelley binder . charlie, great to have you on the program . there are the program. there are unfortunate parallels between the two tragedies, aren't there 7 the two tragedies, aren't there ? there are many eerie parallels to the two disasters. indeed . in to the two disasters. indeed. in fact, i to the two disasters. indeed. in beeb. . wbbb— to the two disasters. indeed. in beeb. . wbbb eew— to the two disasters. indeed. in fact, i will say that— r: indeed. in fact, i will say that yesterday day,— fact, i will say that yesterday dayr iweb— fact, i will say that yesterday dayr iweb ee— fact, i will say that yesterday dayr iweb ee .— fact, i will say that yesterday day, just as i was— fact, i will say that yesterday day, just as i was hearing the ceeebgwere— day, just as i was hearing the coastguard announce that they bee— coastguard announce that they bee bewme— coastguard announce that they had found the— coastguard announce that they had found the remains of the submersible,— had found the remains of the submersible, it— had found the remains of the submersible, it occurred to me me— submersible, it occurred to me bbeb mw— submersible, it occurred to me bbeb mw greeb— submersible, it occurred to me that my great grandmother, leah aces— that my great grandmother, leah aces .— that my great grandmother, leah aces . bbee—

that my great grandmother, leah acas . ebee be— that my great grandmother, leah acas , died 56 years ago. yes acas, died 56 years ago. yes bebew— acas, died 56 years ago. yes beeew. se— acas, died 56 years ago. yes beeew. se em— acas, died 56 years ago. yes today. so on the— acas, died 56 years ago. yes today. so on the very day that mew— today. so on the very day that they announced— today. so on the very day that they announced the these five eeebbe. — they announced the these five eeebbe. vee— they announced the these five eeebbe. wee — they announced the these five deaths. yes and— they announced the these five deaths. yes ' r: ” giia. deaths. yes and your great grandmother and great uncle survived , how did the family survived, how did the family find out that they had survived . that is a really interesting story. um , much like this story. um, much like this ebeeeber— story. um, much like this ebeeeber .— story. um, much like this disaster , the— um, much like this disaster , the titanic happened disaster, the titanic happened on disaster, the titanic happened em e swmeew.— disaster, the titanic happened on a sunday. the— disaster, the titanic happened on a sunday. the accident bebbemee— on a sunday. the accident bebbemee em— on a sunday. the accident happened on a— on a sunday. the accident happened on a sunday just like me.— happened on a sunday just like he ame— happened on a sunday just like he me me— happened on a sunday just like this. and the world was breathless— this. and the world was breathless for- this. and the world was breathless for any information . breathless for any information. for breathless for any information. ber memw— breathless for any information. be memw brewe— breathless for any information. for many days, several days webb— for many days, several days wmbbb bbe— for many days, several days until the carpathia got back imbe— until the carpathia got back me reebe— until the carpathia got back into radio contact with the mere— into radio contact with the ebere m— into radio contact with the shore in new— into radio contact with the shore in new york. so i think beebbe— shore in new york. so i think beebbe were— shore in new york. so i think people were desperate to know wbeb—

people were desperate to know wbeb bebbemee. — people were desperate to know what happened. in fact, in my bembbw— what happened. in fact, in my bembbw .— what happened. in fact, in my bembbw . me— what happened. in fact, in my bembbw . mw— what happened. in fact, in my family , me, my great grandmother family, me, my great grandmother was family, me, my great grandmother embgrebmg— family, me, my great grandmother was emigrating to— family, me, my great grandmother was emigrating to the united bbeee.— was emigrating to the united sbebee. se— was emigrating to the united states. so her— was emigrating to the united states. so her parents and her ebbbmge— states. so her parents and her ebbbmge were— states. so her parents and her siblings were still in the uk. t hey— siblings were still in the uk. bbew were— siblings were still in the uk. they were still— siblings were still in the uk. they were still in london where i they were still in london where . ebb— they were still in london where . ebbbb beve— they were still in london where i still have cousins— they were still in london where i still have cousins to this day . eme— i still have cousins to this day . eme mew— i still have cousins to this day . eme bbew bee— i still have cousins to this day , and they had no— i still have cousins to this day , and they had no idea if she bbee— , and they had no idea if she bwee er— , and they had no idea if she lived or died— , and they had no idea if she lived or died for— , and they had no idea if she lived or died for days and that was extremely— lived or died for days and that was extremely traumatising. and my was extremely traumatising. and mw greeb— was extremely traumatising. and my great grandfather , he wasn't my great grandfather, he wasn't mebbbbee— my great grandfather, he wasn't notified until— my great grandfather, he wasn't notified until the _ my great grandfather, he wasn't notified until the ship was meerbw— notified until the ship was meerbw beek— notified until the ship was nearly back to— notified until the ship was nearly back to new york. so i bbmb— nearly back to new york. so i bbmb beebbe— nearly back to new york. so i think people don't necessarily bbmb— think people don't necessarily bbmb eb— think people don't necessarily think of that. _ think people don't necessarily think of that. but it was quite a think of that. but it was quite e bemgbbw— think of that. but it was quite a lengthy journey for the cerbebbbe— a lengthy journey for the carpathia to _ a lengthy journey for the carpathia to bring back the ewbrwwere— carpathia to bring back the survivors. it— carpathia to bring back the survivors. it was- carpathia to bring back the survivors. it was four days and bbew— survivors. it was four days and bbew eberbee— survivors. it was four days and they started to— survivors. it was four days and they started to try— survivors. it was four days and they started to try omit the eb— they started to try omit the names of first— they started to try omit the names of first class passengers . ame— names of first class passengers . ame bb— names of first class passengers . ame b we— names of first class passengers . and it was all— names of first class passengers . and it was all done on rather brbmbbwe— . and it was all done on rather primitive equipment . so it was primitive equipment. so it was ebbbbewbb— primitive equipment. so it was difficult and— primitive equipment. so it was difficult and made even more ebbbbewbb— difficult and made even more difficult because— difficult and made even more difficult because many of the names were quite foreign and had

ebeebeb— names were quite foreign and had special characters— names were quite foreign and had special characters in them beee— special characters in them because there _ special characters in them because there were a lot of bmmbgrembe— because there were a lot of bmmbgrembe .— because there were a lot of immigrants . also . the they immigrants. also. the they bmebbw— immigrants. also. the they finally went— immigrants. also. the they finally went to— immigrants. also. the they finally went to my great grandfather's— finally went to my great grandfather's tenement, the egemb— grandfather's tenement, the egemb ber— grandfather's tenement, the egembberbbe— grandfather's tenement, the agent for the white star line, the agent for the white star line, bbe bbbemee— agent for the white star line, the titanics line— agent for the white star line, the titanics line ,_ agent for the white star line, the titanics line , and they the titanics line, and they mebbbbee— the titanics line, and they notified him _ the titanics line, and they notified him ,_ the titanics line, and they notified him , i- the titanics line, and they notified him , i believe on notified him, i believe on bbwreeew— notified him, i believe on thursday the— notified him, i believe on thursday the 18th. and he was so . ee ebeebee— thursday the 18th. and he was so , so shocked that— thursday the 18th. and he was so , so shocked that when the guy bebe— , so shocked that when the guy bebe bbm — , so shocked that when the guy told him that— , so shocked that when the guy told him that his— , so shocked that when the guy told him that his wife and baby had told him that his wife and baby bee ewrwwee— told him that his wife and baby bee ewrwwee .— told him that his wife and baby had survived , he— told him that his wife and baby had survived , he fell off his had survived, he fell off his memb— had survived, he fell off his bremb berm— had survived, he fell off his front porch and— had survived, he fell off his front porch and got a concussion . beb— front porch and got a concussion . eeb e— front porch and got a concussion . got a concussion.— front porch and got a concussion . got a concussion. i'm- front porch and got a concussion . got a concussion. i'm not surprised. i've only got a couple of seconds left. shelly but am i right in thinking that as it was your great grandmother, you owe your own life to the that she life to the fact that she survived 100% would not be having this conversation with you, mark, if she hadn't have survived and in fact, she had to fight for her life. and she was only fight for her life. and she was embw be— fight for her life. and she was embw re weere— fight for her life. and she was only 18 years old—

fight for her life. and she was only 18 years old and- �*" g l �*"i and she was only 18 years old and had quite a only 18 years old and had quite e eremebbe— only 18 years old and had quite a dramatic escape— only 18 years old and had quite a dramatic escape from the ship, wbbeb— a dramatic escape from the ship, wbbeb be— a dramatic escape from the ship, which is another— a dramatic escape from the ship, which is another very incredible eberw— which is another very incredible eberw m— which is another very incredible eberw m bbeebb— which is another very incredible eberw m bbeebb .— which is another very incredible story in itself . but— which is another very incredible story in itself . but there are story in itself. but there are memw— story in itself. but there are memw werw— story in itself. but there are memw werw eee— story in itself. but there are many very sad parallels to this eberw— many very sad parallels to this eberw bbeb— many very sad parallels to this eberw bbeb we— many very sad parallels to this story that we found out the end of story that we found out the end er weebereew. — story that we found out the end of yesterday. and _ story that we found out the end of yesterday. and i— story that we found out the end of yesterday. and i also would bbe— of yesterday. and i also would bbbe be— of yesterday. and i also would bbbe be eere— of yesterday. and i also would like to send my— of yesterday. and i also would like to send my condolences to the like to send my condolences to bbe bembbw— like to send my condolences to bbe bembbw eb— like to send my condolences to the family of all— like to send my condolences to the family of all those that beeb— the family of all those that were lost and— the family of all those that were lost and say that another eemebeemee— were lost and say that another coincidence or— were lost and say that another coincidence or parallel is that sbeebbem— coincidence or parallel is that stockton rush— coincidence or parallel is that stockton rush ,_ coincidence or parallel is that stockton rush , the designer and stockton rush, the designer and eee.— stockton rush, the designer and cbo. wee— stockton rush, the designer and cbo. em— stockton rush, the designer and ceo, was on the— stockton rush, the designer and ceo, was on the ship and berbebee— ceo, was on the ship and berbebee .— ceo, was on the ship and perished . and- ceo, was on the ship and perished . and the designer of perished. and the designer of the perished. and the designer of bbe meme— perished. and the designer of the titanic was— perished. and the designer of the titanic was also on the ebb.— the titanic was also on the ebb. ame— the titanic was also on the ship. and perished. thomas amerewe— ship. and perished. thomas amerewe .— ship. and perished. thomas andrews . and— ship. and perished. thomas andrews . and also that stockton, andrews. and also that stockton, bweb-e— andrews. and also that stockton, bweb-e wbe— andrews. and also that stockton, bweb-e wbbe .— andrews. and also that stockton, rush's wife , as— andrews. and also that stockton, rush's wife , as i— andrews. and also that stockton, rush's wife , as i understand it, rush's wife, as i understand it, werew— rush's wife, as i understand it, wemew bweb— rush's wife, as i understand it, wendy rush was— rush's wife, as i understand it, wendy rush was the great great gremeeewgbber— wendy rush was the great great granddaughter of— wendy rush was the great great granddaughter of ida and isidor sbrewe— granddaughter of ida and isidor sbrewe eme— granddaughter of ida and isidor straus and they— granddaughter of ida and isidor straus and they were actually membbemee— straus and they were actually membbemee bw— straus and they were actually mentioned by my great grandmother- mentioned by my great grandmother for, as she said, ebe— grandmother for, as she said, ebe eew— grandmother for, as she said, she saw them— grandmother for, as she said, she saw them sitting arm in arm on she saw them sitting arm in arm em bbe— she saw them sitting arm in arm em bbe beek— she saw them sitting arm in arm em bbe eeeb ee— she saw them sitting arm in arm on the deck as she— she saw them sitting arm in arm on the deck as she departed in a

bbebeeb— on the deck as she departed in a lifeboat. extraordinary parallels. _ lifeboat. extraordinary parallels. �*rw�*ria g lifeboat. extraordinary parallels. grir parallels. well, i've got no doubt that your great great grandmother would be very proud of you speaking so articulately this evening, shelly binder, thank you so much for telling us your amazing family story. thank you, shelly. we'll catch up again . let's have a further look again. let's have a further look at happened . joining again. let's have a further look at happened .joining me now at what happened. joining me now is michael gillen . michael is dr. michael gillen. michael is dr. michael gillen. michael is award winning physics is an award winning physics instructor at harvard university and the former abc news science edhon and the former abc news science editor. he's also a survivor of a previous titanic submersible trip, 23 years ago, mike, thank you for joining trip, 23 years ago, mike, thank you forjoining us. you survived , as i've mentioned, a similar trip a long while back. so this week must have been particularly hard for you to watch . yes. yes. hard for you to watch. yes. yes. it was , mark, throughout- “a”: f yes. yes. it was , mark, throughout the it was, mark, throughout the embe— it was, mark, throughout the embbre week. — it was, mark, throughout the entire week, i— it was, mark, throughout the entire week, i felt a strong bmebbb. — entire week, i felt a strong bmebbb. eb— entire week, i felt a strong kinship. of course, at that time we bbewgbb— kinship. of course, at that time we thought that— kinship. of course, at that time we thought that perhaps they ebbbb— we thought that perhaps they were still alive,— we thought that perhaps they were still alive, but suffering eme— were still alive, but suffering and wondering— were still alive, but suffering and wondering if they were going to and wondering if they were going be berg— and wondering if they were going be bemg m— and wondering if they were going to hang in there— and wondering if they were going to hang in there until they eewbe— to hang in there until they eewbe be— to hang in there until they could be rescued. so that part of could be rescued. so that part eb bb— could be rescued. so that part

eb bb reebbw— could be rescued. so that part of it really reminded me enormously— of it really reminded me enormously of- of it really reminded me enormously of my own experience of enormously of my own experience eb bemg— enormously of my own experience er bemg brebbee— enormously of my own experience of being trapped down at the wreck— of being trapped down at the wreck eb— of being trapped down at the wreck of the _ of being trapped down at the wreck of the titanic where my ewb— wreck of the titanic where my ewb geb— wreck of the titanic where my ewb geb ebweb— wreck of the titanic where my sub got stuck in— wreck of the titanic where my sub got stuck in the propeller. it sub got stuck in the propeller. b we— sub got stuck in the propeller. bb ber— sub got stuck in the propeller. bb fer e— sub got stuck in the propeller. it was for a relatively short wbbbe— it was for a relatively short wbbbe .— it was for a relatively short wbbbe . bb— it was for a relatively short while . it wasn't- it was for a relatively short while . it wasn't for days. but while. it wasn't for days. but i beb— while. it wasn't for days. but i bebb your— while. it wasn't for days. but i bebb your wbeb— while. it wasn't for days. but i tell you, when you're down mere.— tell you, when you're down there, stuck,— tell you, when you're down there, stuck, buried alive under bwe— there, stuck, buried alive under bwe eme— there, stuck, buried alive under bwe eme e— there, stuck, buried alive under two and a half— there, stuck, buried alive under two and a half miles of water, it two and a half miles of water, bb eeeme— two and a half miles of water, it seems like— two and a half miles of water, it seems like an— two and a half miles of water, it seems like an eternity. no mebber— it seems like an eternity. no mebber bew— it seems like an eternity. no matter how long— it seems like an eternity. no matter how long you're stuck bewe— matter how long you're stuck eewm bbere. — matter how long you're stuck down there. :: down there. indeed. so i know that you understandably feared for your life and you feel you've been given a second chance, which tragically , these chance, which tragically, these five individuals have not. michael, what motivates people to take such a risk in the name of exploration ? i've been very of exploration? i've been very philosophical over the last past week. i'm philosophical by bent emwwew— week. i'm philosophical by bent emwwew. bwb— i'm philosophical by bent anyway, but particularly this week— anyway, but particularly this week reflecting— anyway, but particularly this week reflecting on what's mebbemee— week reflecting on what's mebbemee .— week reflecting on what's happened , especially yesterday happened, especially yesterday wbeb— happened, especially yesterday wbem we — happened, especially yesterday wbem we geb— happened, especially yesterday when we got the— happened, especially yesterday when we got the news mark, the embw— when we got the news mark, the embw wew— when we got the news mark, the embw wew .— when we got the news mark, the embw wew r em— when we got the news mark, the embw wew r eew— when we got the news mark, the only way i can say it is this mere— only way i can say it is this bbere be— only way i can say it is this there is something that is member— there is something that is hardwired into— there is something that is hardwired into us human species bbeb— hardwired into us human species bbeb bbeb— hardwired into us human species that that causes— hardwired into us human species that that causes us— hardwired into us human species that that causes us to abandon

our proverbial— that that causes us to abandon our proverbial survival mebmebe— our proverbial survival mebmebe .— our proverbial survival instincts , to- our proverbial survival instincts , to explore worlds far instincts, to explore worlds far beweme — instincts, to explore worlds far beweme bbe — instincts, to explore worlds far beyond the darwinian jungle. bbbe— beyond the darwinian jungle. rbbe be— beyond the darwinian jungle. this is something that only we bewe— this is something that only we bewe me— this is something that only we have no other— this is something that only we have no other animal on the meme— have no other animal on the bbemeb beeke— have no other animal on the planet looks up— have no other animal on the planet looks up on a night and web— planet looks up on a night and iweb meb— planet looks up on a night and fweb meb embw— planet looks up on a night and just not only sees— planet looks up on a night and just not only sees stars, but webbe— just not only sees stars, but wembe be— just not only sees stars, but wembe be ge— just not only sees stars, but wants to go out— just not only sees stars, but wants to go out there. one weeere— wants to go out there. one wonders what's— wants to go out there. one wonders what's out there and is wbbbmg— wonders what's out there and is wbbbmg be— wonders what's out there and is wbbbmg be meb— wonders what's out there and is willing to risk life— wonders what's out there and is willing to risk life and limb eme— willing to risk life and limb eme ebere— willing to risk life and limb and spend billions of dollars to go and spend billions of dollars to ge ewb— and spend billions of dollars to ge ewb mere— and spend billions of dollars to go out there and— and spend billions of dollars to go out there and i— and spend billions of dollars to go out there and i consider that to go out there and i consider that be be— go out there and i consider that be be e— go out there and i consider that to be a wondrous— go out there and i consider that to be a wondrous trait. it's not a to be a wondrous trait. it's not ebew— to be a wondrous trait. it's not ebbew m— to be a wondrous trait. it's not ebbew m ewr— to be a wondrous trait. it's not a flaw in our nature. it's not a gwbrb— a flaw in our nature. it's not a gwbrb m— a flaw in our nature. it's not a gwbrb m ewr— a flaw in our nature. it's not a quirk in our nature. it's eebwebbw— quirk in our nature. it's actually the— quirk in our nature. it's actually the essence of our mewreb— actually the essence of our meweb ame— actually the essence of our nature. and so— actually the essence of our nature. and so when you get into gweebbeme— nature. and so when you get into gweebbeme eweb— nature. and so when you get into questions such as— nature. and so when you get into questions such as should tourism eembmwe— questions such as should tourism eembmwe .— questions such as should tourism eembmwe . .— questions such as should tourism continue , i think— questions such as should tourism continue , i think that's continue, i think that's a begbbbmebe— continue, i think that's a legitimate question. but i think you legitimate question. but i think wew ebewbe— legitimate question. but i think you should bear— legitimate question. but i think you should bear in mind that wew-re— you should bear in mind that you're never going to kill this essence in our— you're never going to kill this essence in our being wish to web— essence in our being wish to rbeb bbe— essence in our being wish to risk life and— essence in our being wish to risk life and limb to find out wbeb-e— risk life and limb to find out wbeb-e em— risk life and limb to find out what's on the— risk life and limb to find out what's on the other side, what's at what's on the other side, what's eb bbe — what's on the other side, what's eb bbe bebbem— what's on the other side, what's at the bottom of—

what's on the other side, what's at the bottom of the ocean, wbeb-e— at the bottom of the ocean, wbeb-e eb— at the bottom of the ocean, what's at the— at the bottom of the ocean, what's at the top of the mewrebmb— what's at the top of the mountain, what's out there beweme— mountain, what's out there beweme bbe— mountain, what's out there beyond the moon, beyond the ebere— beyond the moon, beyond the ebere bbeb-e— beyond the moon, beyond the stars. that's something that is bebb— stars. that's something that is both wonderful,— stars. that's something that is both wonderful, but also in many cases, terrifying. _ both wonderful, but also in many cases, terrifying. as— both wonderful, but also in many cases, terrifying. as we witnessed _ cases, terrifying. as we witnessed yesterday. absolute cerbembw.— witnessed yesterday. absolute cerbembw. we— witnessed yesterday. absolute certainly, we wouldn't- witnessed yesterday. absolute certainly, we wouldn't have ships. we wouldn't have roads, we wouldn't have the automobile . we certainly wouldn't have air travel if it wasn't for that human spirit of pioneering michael , the film director, michael, the film director, james cameron, who has himself dived to down the titanic titanic wreck several times, has criticised the project and the safety measures . what's your safety measures. what's your view right now ? because i am view right now? because i am a eebembbeb— view right now? because i am a eebembbeb eme— view right now? because i am a eebembbeb eme .— view right now? because i am a scientist and i hear— . go , because i am a scientist and i hear many beewe.— scientist and i hear many beebbe. meb— scientist and i hear many people, not only mr cameron , people, not only mr cameron, ewbreeemg— people, not only mr cameron, expressing their— people, not only mr cameron, expressing their opinions and bee— expressing their opinions and he's entitled— expressing their opinions and he's entitled to— expressing their opinions and he's entitled to his i don't jump— he's entitled to his i don't fwmb be— he's entitled to his i don't jump to conclusions. i'm trained to jump to conclusions. i'm trained be be— jump to conclusions. i'm trained be be werw— jump to conclusions. i'm trained to be very methodical as a eebembbeb— to be very methodical as a eebembbeb .— to be very methodical as a scientist . i— to be very methodical as a scientist . i want- to be very methodical as a scientist . i want them to scientist. i want them to eebbeeb— scientist. i want them to collect the _ scientist. i want them to collect the evidence right now bbew-re— collect the evidence right now bbew-re bekmg— collect the evidence right now they're taking a3d map before bbew— they're taking a3d map before bbew eberb— they're taking a3d map before they start moving the pieces. wew— they start moving the pieces. wew eew-b— they start moving the pieces. you don't want— they start moving the pieces. you don't want to— they start moving the pieces. you don't want to disturb the eb— you don't want to disturb the eb bbe — you don't want to disturb the scene of the accident as it brmg— scene of the accident as it were. bring upload that three d map—

were. bring upload that three d meb embe— were. bring upload that three d meb embe e— were. bring upload that three d map onto a supercomputer , try to map onto a supercomputer, try to reemebrwb— map onto a supercomputer, try to reconstruct what _ map onto a supercomputer, try to reconstruct what actually bebbemee— reconstruct what actually bebbemee .— reconstruct what actually happened . clearly there was a happened. clearly there was a weebeee m— happened. clearly there was a weakness in the— happened. clearly there was a weakness in the pressure vessel. berbebe— weakness in the pressure vessel. remebe bbew— weakness in the pressure vessel. perhaps they will— weakness in the pressure vessel. perhaps they will consider brmgmg— perhaps they will consider bringing those— perhaps they will consider bringing those pieces back up eme— bringing those pieces back up eme bwbbmg— bringing those pieces back up and putting them together like a bwzzbe— and putting them together like a bwzzbe ee— and putting them together like a bwzzbe ee we— and putting them together like a puzzle so we can— and putting them together like a puzzle so we can get further evidence— puzzle so we can get further evidence .— puzzle so we can get further evidence . .— puzzle so we can get further evidence . i think it's very evidence. i think it's very eeeembbeb— evidence. i think it's very essential that— evidence. i think it's very essential that we really look eerebwbbw— essential that we really look carefully after— essential that we really look carefully after the us shuttle cbebbemger— carefully after the us shuttle challenger exploded. that's what bese— challenger exploded. that's what were ebe.— challenger exploded. that's what were ebe. ame— challenger exploded. that's what nasa did. and you— challenger exploded. that's what nasa did. and you know what they did nasa did. and you know what they ebe-be— nasa did. and you know what they ebe-be bbew— nasa did. and you know what they ebe-be bbew ebwb- nasa did. and you know what they did is they shut down did after that is they shut down the did after that is they shut down bbeiebeee— did after that is they shut down the space program for a while the us space program for a while leermemembw— the us space program for a while ibermemembbwlb- the us space program for a while . permanently, i think . not permanently, but i think we bb— . not permanently, but i think we b be— . not permanently, but i think we owe it to the— . not permanently, but i think we owe it to the five lives that reeb— we owe it to the five lives that were lost yesterday to be eerebwb— were lost yesterday to be eerebwb m— were lost yesterday to be careful in how- were lost yesterday to be careful in how we speak and how we-berwere— careful in how we speak and how we-berwere .— careful in how we speak and how we-forward . and- careful in how we speak and how we forward . and let's look we move forward. and let's look at we move forward. and let's look eb-eweemee— we move forward. and let's look eb-eweemee-e— we move forward. and let's look at-evidence-a cool- at the evidence with a cool beee. — at the evidence with a cool beee. .— at the evidence with a cool head.-i know- at the evidence with a cool head. i know there's a lot head. yes, i know there's a lot of head. yes, i know there's a lot eb mebber— head. yes, i know there's a lot of chatter about— head. yes, i know there's a lot of chatter about whether this wemere.— of chatter about whether this wemere-wee- vehicle, the titan, was eeewerbbw— vehicle, the titan, was seaworthy and seaworthy and so forth. and bbeee— seaworthy and so forth. and. these—questions. these are legitimate questions. but these are legitimate questions. bwb rm— these are legitimate questions. bwb b-m meb— these are legitimate questions. but i'm not going— these are legitimate questions. but i'm not going to add to the ebebber. — but i'm not going to add to the ebebber. .— but i'm not going to add to the chatter. i feel— but i'm not going to add to the chatter. i feel it's— chatter. i feel it's irresponsible disrespectful irresponsible and disrespectful to irresponsible and disrespectful be bbe — irresponsible and disrespectful be bbe bwe — irresponsible and disrespectful to the five lives— irresponsible and disrespectful to the five lives and the bembbee— to the five lives and the families and— to the five lives and the families and friends of those beebbe— families and friends of those beewe-wemb— families and friends of those people went there families and friends of those. people-went-there . people who went down there. wemer— people who went down there. wemer-geb- people who went down there. wemer-geb e- people who went down there. | michael,-got a couple michael, i've only got a couple of you are of seconds left, but you are a veteran of television news, so let just ask you, finally, let me just ask you, finally, there are reports that debris was found many days ago. some are suggesting that the

authorities has sat on this story when they knew that tragedy had ensued . what's your tragedy had ensued. what's your view on that ? you know, i have view on that? you know, i have been— view on that? you know, i have been erewe— view on that? you know, i have been around for— view on that? you know, i have been around for a— view on that? you know, i have been around for a long- . bib" 33.7 you know, i have been around for a long while, were. — been around for a long while, were. rewr— been around for a long while, mark. four decades of covering ebeeeber— mark. four decades of covering ebeeeber eb— mark. four decades of covering disaster of all— mark. four decades of covering disaster of all kinds, hurricanes,- disaster of all kinds, hurricanes, volcano . and i've hurricanes, volcano. and i've ebwewe— hurricanes, volcano. and i've ebwewe bewee— hurricanes, volcano. and i've always found reason to question why— always found reason to question wbw mweebbgebe— always found reason to question why investigate is— always found reason to question why investigate is on the scene, ebbber— why investigate is on the scene, ebbber eebew— why investigate is on the scene, either delay or— why investigate is on the scene, either delay or don't tell you me— either delay or don't tell you we er— either delay or don't tell you we er bbeb. — either delay or don't tell you this or that. it's— either delay or don't tell you this or that. it's quite complicated. - this or that. it's quite complicated. again, i'd rather not complicated. again, i'd rather meb eeewe— complicated. again, i'd rather not second guess— complicated. again, i'd rather not second guess people right .— not second guess people right . .— not second guess people right . . be.— not second guess people right now. i i do, though, insist that me— now. i i do, though, insist that bbe bewgb— now. i i do, though, insist that the tough questions be asked in the tough questions be asked in bbe bewe— the tough questions be asked in bbe eewe eme— the tough questions be asked in the days and months ahead. i'm not the days and months ahead. i'm meb bbemg— the days and months ahead. i'm meb bbebmg mw— the days and months ahead. i'm not hiding my head in the sand or not hiding my head in the sand er bebmg— not hiding my head in the sand er bebmg e— not hiding my head in the sand or taking a position way or or taking a position one way or emebber. — or taking a position one way or another. .again,_ or taking a position one way or another.-again, as- or taking a position one way or another. again, as a another. but again, as a eebembbeb— another. but again, as a scientist,ilook- another. but again, as a scientist, look at the scientist, i look at the evidence — scientist, i look at the evidence. kinds evidence. let's see what kinds of conclusions— evidence. let's see what kinds of conclusions come to. of conclusions we can come to. ame— of conclusions we can come to. ame-bb— of conclusions we can come to. ame-m bbew-we- of conclusions we can come to. and-if they've done- and if they if they've done eemebbmg— and if they if they've done something that— and if they if they've done something that is not proper , something that is not proper, bbew— something that is not proper, bbem .— something that is not proper, bbem . bbmb— something that is not proper, then i think we— something that is not proper, then i think we need to call bbem — then i think we need to call bbem ewb. — then i think we need to call them out. but— then i think we need to call them out. but honestly, idea them out. but honestly, the idea bbeb— them out. but honestly, the idea bbeb-eewm— them out. but honestly, the idea that-could zero— them out. but honestly, the idea that-could zero in- them out. but honestly, the idea that could zero in on on that they could zero in on on me— that they could zero in on on bbe rememe— that they could zero in on on the remains of— that they could zero in on on the remains of this thing within bewe— the remains of this thing within dayslamazing_ the remains of this thing within dayslamazing .— the remains of this thing within days amazing . remember, the days is amazing. remember, the meme— days is amazing. remember, the new wemb— days is amazing. remember, the titanic went down _ days is amazing. remember, the titanic went down in 1912. it weemb— titanic went down in 1912. it wasn't discovered until 1985. are— wasn't discovered until 1985. are ee— wasn't discovered until 1985. are eb— wasn't discovered until 1985. and one of the— wasn't discovered until 1985. and one of the discoveries was my and one of the discoveries was mw geee— and one of the discoveries was mw geee meme— and one of the discoveries was my good friend bob ballard, a werw— my good friend bob ballard, a werw remewe— my good friend bob ballard, a very famous marine scientist. it

beek— very famous marine scientist. it beeb we— very famous marine scientist. it beeb we be— very famous marine scientist. it took us 73 years— very famous marine scientist. it took us 73 years to— very famous marine scientist. it took us 73 years to find the eb— took us 73 years to find the remains of the— took us 73 years to find the remains of the titanic, which is gbgembbe— remains of the titanic, which is gigantic compared— remains of the titanic, which is gigantic compared to this meegwbbe— gigantic compared to this mosquito sized sub . well, mosquito sized sub. well, wbebeeb— mosquito sized sub. well, wbebeeb .— mosquito sized sub. well, michael , thank you so much for michael, thank you so much for fibreg— michael, thank you so much for bbbbmg we— michael, thank you so much for bbbbmg we be.— michael, thank you so much for mbbmg we be. — michael, thank you so much for filling us in. and— michael, thank you so much for filling us in. 'r: gair: filling us in. and i'm so glad that you are to here tell the tale. having survived your own deep dive. and you're absolutely right of right about the importance of that human spirit of adventure. dr. michael gillen is an award winning physics instructor at harvard university and the former abc news science editor. thank you, michael. we'll speak again. fascinating conversation. i think you'll agree, in a truly tragic story. coming up next with the pundits, i'll be asking, is the idea of the british gentleman dead ? are british gentleman dead? are right wing women more attractive than lefties? are vegans a than lefties? and are vegans a pain in the that's

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cat. i know it was discussed earlier in the week. my first pubuc earlier in the week. my first public and it exclusive public comments and it exclusive video of harry video footage of my cat harry that's in the take at ten. you won't want to it. won't want to miss it. but reacting the big stories reacting to the big stories of the top pundits bringing the day, my top pundits bringing you to the day's you ringside seats to the day's big events. political consultant emma broadcaster aidan emma burnell, broadcaster aidan magee and fleet street legend podcaster , co founder of podcaster, co founder of talksport . the drinks are on talksport. the drinks are on him. mike paul coyte harry independently wealthy, good looking. all looking. he's got it all now. back in the day. speaking of mike porky parry, gentleman appued mike porky parry, gentleman applied to anyone who kind, applied to anyone who was kind, respected and excellent at holding open . but respected and excellent at holding open. but in holding doors open. but in the 21st century, many people think gentlemanly should now gentlemanly behaviour should now be bare minimum to expect be the bare minimum to expect for men. if we're doing away for men. so if we're doing away with an old fashioned sense of chivalry based gender, what chivalry based on gender, what makes for the modern british gentleman ? aidan? well, ask me . gentleman? aidan? well, ask me. well, gentleman? aidan? well, ask me. were bbeb— gentleman? aidan? well, ask me. were bbreb em— gentleman? aidan? well, ask me. well, first off, you— gentleman? aidan? well, ask me. well, first off, you dress- 37 ' r:rib�*7 well, ask me. well, first off, you dress like a well, first off, you dress like e gem— well, first off, you dress like e gemb .— well, first off, you dress like e gemb . rem-b— well, first off, you dress like a gent, isn't it? - well, first off, you dress like a gent, isn't it? well, first off, you dress like a gent , isn't it? a gent, isn't it? thank you. weeb.— a gent, isn't it? thank you. weeb. webb— a gent, isn't it? thank you. yeah, well, yeah,— a gent, isn't it? yeah, well, yeah, well, absolutely. - yeah, well, yeah, well, absolutely. rig yeah, well, yeah, well,- absolutely. very dapper. thank you absolutely. very dapper. thank wewwerw— absolutely. very dapper. thank wewwerw mweb— absolutely. very dapper. thank you very much indeed.- absolutely. «rig : thank you very much indeed. well, i've eebee— you very much indeed. well, i've eebee e— you very much indeed. well, i've eebee e beb— you very much indeed. well, i've dated a lot over— you very much indeed. well, i've dated a lot over the— you very much indeed. well, i've dated a lot over the last couple of dated a lot over the last couple eb weere— dated a lot over the last couple er weere eme— dated a lot over the last couple er weere eme .— dated a lot over the last couple of years, and i think being a gembbemem— of years, and i think being a gentleman matters more now than it gentleman matters more now than bb-bee— gentleman matters more now than bb-bee eebwebbw— gentleman matters more now than it-has, actually. you- gentleman matters more now than it has, actually. you know, it ever has, actually. you know,

bbmge—wbem- things like. i love it when eemebeew— things like. i love it when somebody offers to pay somebody offers to. to pay for ember— somebody offers to. to pay for ember-bew— somebody offers to. to pay for dinner-pay their— somebody offers to. to pay for dinner pay their of dinner or pay their half of ember. — dinner or pay their half of ember. _.- dinner or pay their half of dinner._| lovei dinner or pay their half of. dinner._| love it. i dinner. what i do, i love it. i bewe— dinner. what i do, i love it. i revelr— dinner. what i do, i love it. i bewelb eew-b— dinner. what i do, i love it. i love i don't accept, but love it. i don't accept, but i bewe— love it. i don't accept, but i bewe bb— love it. i don't accept, but i love it because— love it. i don't accept, but i love it because i- love it. i don't accept, but i love it because i was always one of love it because i was always one eb bbeee— love it because i was always one eb bbeee bbee— love it because i was always one of those kids. my— love it because i was always one of those kids. my parents used to of those kids. my parents used be—b— of those kids. my parents used be—b wee— of those kids. my parents used be—b gemg- of those kids. my parents used to_| was going to. of those kids. my parents used to i was going to be to worry that i was going to be bewee—wbem- to worry that i was going to be bewee—wbem b- to worry that i was going to be taken _when i got taken advantage of when i got ewrer— taken advantage of when i got ewee—ee- taken advantage of when i got older,_so, yeah. l older, really. and so, yeah. were— older, really. and so, yeah. were wew— older, really. and so, yeah. were you-nice- older, really. and so, yeah. were you-nicerouri older, really. and so, yeah. i were you-nicerour own were you too nice for your own good? yeah pretty much. yeah. yeah, yeah. that's what- 3:7 / rt yeah. yeah, yeah. that's what they were—webb- yeah, yeah. that's what they were _well, too| were trying to say. well, too ebwbbe. — were trying to say. well, too stupid-that's- were trying to say. well, too stupid. that's what stupid. i think that's what berembe—b- stupid. i think that's what parents—i like parents thought. so i like to be.— parents thought. so i like to belbbe— parents thought. so i like to be.ilike.-that- parents thought. so i like to be.ilike. .that to- parents thought. so i like to be. like. that to be like be. i like. like that to be like someone .offer_ be. i like. like that to be like someone offer but someone to offer that. but i never.inever.it.- someone to offer that. but i never.inever.it. i- someone to offer that. but i never. never it. i still never. i never do it. i still bbew— never. i never do it. i still bbew bb— never. i never do it. i still bbew bb. .— never. i never do it. i still blew it. i still.— never. i never do it. i still blew it. i still. i- never. i never do it. i still blew it. i still. i still always pay-— blew it. i still. i still always bew. weerbw— blew it. i still. i still always pay. nearly always pay every bbme. —meeml pay. nearly always pay every. time._mean, nearly time. what do you mean, nearly ebwewee—bbreb- always? well, after the first bbme — always? well, after the first bbme bb— always? well, after the first bbme bb — always? well, after the first time it was, always pay. but time it was, i'd always pay. but mewbe—eewml time it was, i'd always pay. buti maybe._down the maybe. maybe further down the bee.— maybe. maybe further down thei bwe—mew line, maybe, maybe i might now eme— line, maybe, maybe i might now ewe-eew.— line, maybe, maybe i might now ewe-eew-mewbel and again say, okay, maybe. wewbe— and again say, okay, maybe. wewbe wew— and again say, okay, maybe. wewbe wew geb— and again say, okay, maybe. maybe you get this one. no, no, no, maybe you get this one. no, no, melvew— maybe you get this one. no, no, melvew eew-b— maybe you get this one. no, no, no,-you don't call- maybe you get this one. no, no, no, you don't call me old no, no. you don't call me old beebbemee— no, no. you don't call me old fashioned-like,- no, no. you don't call me old fashioned like, but well, fashioned if you like, but well, ewerw— fashioned if you like, but well, ewerw-bbme— fashioned if you like, but well, every-time-whole every single time in the whole of every single time in the whole eb—wbebe.- every single time in the whole eb—wbebe. m- of my life, in the whole. if wewe— of my life, in the whole. if you've - someone - of my life, in the whole. if you've someone who earns you've seen someone who earns a lot you've seen someone who earns a beb-bbem— you've seen someone who earns a beb-bbem-m— you've seen someone who earns a beb-bbem-m bbe- you've seen someone who earns a lot-than-in the whole. lot more than you in the whole of lot more than you in the whole ebibbe— lot more than you in the whole eb-bme. — lot more than you in the whole eb-bme. bbgbb— lot more than you in the whole of-life. right-i'm- lot more than you in the wholej of-life. right-i'm the of my life. right. and i'm the early age, the pre—war early middle age, the pre—war period. entering early, period. i'm entering early, middle never middle age now. i have never allowed buy a drink allowed a lady to buy a drink for never allowed for me. i've never allowed a lady pay for dinner when i've lady to pay for dinner when i've been out even off a been out or even off a half. i would take that as an insult. oh

would take that as an insult. on should we go, dutch? have you been date, though? must be been on a date, though? must be joking. times you joking. how many times have you been— joking. how many times have you beem— — joking. how many times have you been_ thousands.- joking. how many times have youi been_ thousands. come been on a date? thousands. come on. me. mike. harry. on. look at me. i'm mike. harry. thousands right. and. and. and and gone on holiday, and if we've gone on holiday, i've gone away i've paid. if we've gone away for i've paid. for the weekend, i've paid. i had mate when worked on had a mate once when i worked on the daily express. and you won't believe he his believe he invited his girlfriend move him believe he invited his giiariend move him believe he invited his giia cottage move him believe he invited his giia cottage meurrey him believe he invited his giia cottage meurrey and him believe he invited his giia cottage meurrey and then in a cottage in surrey and then charged rent. i mean, that charged her rent. i mean, that is. there's nothing with is. there's nothing wrong with that. no , no. a that. gentlemanly no, no. a man's in life. you. are you man's job in life. you. are you meet— man's job in life. you. are you meet eb— man's job in life. you. are you meet eb mw— man's job in life. you. are you amazed at my single?- in?" i l �*"i you. are you amazed at my single? you're ebbbmg— amazed at my single? you're ebbbmg mere— amazed at my single? you're sitting there thinking, how on eemb— sitting there thinking, how on. earth—michael's? earth is my single michael's? mere—eb— earth is my single michael's? there—of romance. earth is my single michael's? there—of romance in there are plenty of romance in his life. i certainly have memegee—bel his life. i certainly have. managed _to live his life. i certainly have- managed _to live . managed obe life is to live. no.— managed obe life is to live. we. be— managed obe life is to live. no, no, no, no, no,- managed obe life is to live. no, no, no, no, no, no. - managed obe life is to live. \rir do you no, no, no, no, no, no. do you know no, no, no, no, no, no. do you knew wbem— no, no, no, no, no, no. do you knew wbem .— no, no, no, no, no, no. do you know when i was— no, no, no, no, no, no. do you know when i was six- \rij:ji "if; "if; "if; "if; "if; do you know when i was six years of ege— know when i was six years of ege. mw— know when i was six years of ege. mw mebber— know when i was six years of age, my mother said to me. when you age, my mother said to me. when wew-eewm— age, my mother said to me. when wew-eewm bbe— age, my mother said to me. when you-down the street,- you walk down the street, wemeee— you walk down the street, michael, there's lady michael, if there's a lady eemmg— michael, if there's a lady coming move, coming the other way, you move, you— coming the other way, you move, you-immediately- coming the other way, you move, you-immediately to- coming the other way, you move, you immediately to the you move. if immediately to the kerb.— you move. if immediately to the kerb—bbeb. i kerb. yeah, i agree with that. me— kerb. yeah, i agree with that. ebe-mewee— kerb. yeah, i agree with that. the - moves on - kerb. yeah, i agree with that. the moves on the inside. the lady moves on the inside. i did the lady moves on the inside. i ebe-beeew. — the lady moves on the inside. i did .today. idid- the lady moves on the inside. i did .today. |did that- did that today. i did that today. yeah. yeah yeah, yeah. no, but it's gentlemanly eembweb— no, but it's gentlemanly conduct. but— no, but it's gentlemanly conduct. but i- no, but it's gentlemanly conduct. but i think that the eemeebb— conduct. but i think that the concept gentlemanly, think concept of gentlemanly, i think we-bebe— concept of gentlemanly, i think we -take -from l concept of gentlemanly, i think. we-take-from the we need to take it away from the bmemebebe— we need to take it away from the bmemebebele— we need to take it away from the financials.a start— we need to take it away from the financials a start because financials for a start because

we-m— financials for a start because we-m e— financials for a start because we-m e wew.— financials for a start because we-m e veryr werw- we live in a very, very different— we live in a very, very different world we live in a very, very- different world -women different world where women are eemmg—bewe- different world where women arei eemmg—bewe-ewm earning more now, have their own bmemebeb— earning more now, have their own financial independence. when i was financial independence. when i merrbee— financial independence. when i merrbee .— financial independence. when i was married , split everything was married, split everything 5050. yeah. and i wouldn't have had it any other way . there are had it any other way. there are times i've less money, times when i've got less money, when i'm going out with someone and they'll buy dinner for me and they'll buy dinner for me and versa. and i have, you and vice versa. and i have, you know, partnership and know, it's about partnership and a gentleman is a good partner for someone who supports you when you need it and who you support, when they need it. and they give that respect they just give you that respect . if the cash cow that . if you're the cash cow that bebbe— . if you're the cash cow that mike wembe— . if you're the cash cow that mike wants us— if you're the cash cow that mike wants us wants blokes to mike wants us to wants blokes to be, mike wants us to wants blokes to be-gemg— mike wants us to wants blokes to be-gemg be— mike wants us to wants blokes to be,-going to .taking- be, you're going to be taking eewembege— be, you're going to be takingi eewembege—be be, you're going to be taking. advantage _to be advantage of, you're going to be bebmg— advantage of, you're going to be taking advantage— advantage of, you're going to be taking advantage of that. i eer-b— taking advantage of that. i don't-that. i'm- taking advantage of that. r:ri" l i'm going taking advantage of that. i. don't-that. i'm going to don't mind that. i'm going to i'm don't mind that. i'm going to m gemg— don't mind that. i'm going to m gemg be— don't mind that. i'm going to i'm going to turn— don't mind that. i'm going to i'm going to turn into- r:ri" l r: i'm going to i'm going to turn into what my —mbe- i'm going to turn into what my —mbe usl i'm going to turn into what my| mum _into us to mum worried. i turn into us to be-bbeb— mum worried. iturn into us to be-bbeb wew— mum worried. i turn into us to be _that way-that'sl be treated that way and that's bwe.— be treated that way and that's fine,-shouldn't- be treated that way and that's fine,-shouldn't . - be treated that way and that's fine,-shouldn't. i- be treated that way and that's fine, shouldn't . r:i?" l fine, but it shouldn't. i don't bbmb— fine, but it shouldn't. i don't bbmb bbeb— fine, but it shouldn't. i don't think that there's anything wrong expecting to be an wrong with expecting to be an equal partner financially and independently. idon't equal partner financially and independently. i don't think mere-e— independently. i don't think there's anything— :: i don't think there's anything wrong with a beew— there's anything wrong with a beew ewbeebmg— there's anything wrong with a lady expecting entertained lady expecting to be entertained .—bmew— lady expecting to be entertained .—bmew bbe- lady expecting to be entertained ._know the mail- lady expecting to be entertained ._know the mail on. . and we all know the mail on sundavr— . and we all know the mail on swmeew. wew— . and we all know the mail on sunday, you magazine columnist liz sunday, you magazine columnist bb remee— sunday, you magazine columnist bb wemee .— sunday, you magazine columnist liz jones , right?— sunday, you magazine columnist liz jones , right? oh, yes. she liz jones, right? oh, yes. she

moans consistently that, you knew.— moans consistently that, you knew. eberw— moans consistently that, you know, every man— moans consistently that, you know, every man she's met in bbe— know, every man she's met in be bee— know, every man she's met in me bee rbbbee— know, every man she's met in life has ripped her off . you life has ripped her off. you knew.— life has ripped her off. you knew. wbem— life has ripped her off. you know, when they go away to ereee— know, when they go away to ereee ber— know, when they go away to greece for the _ know, when they go away to greece for the weekend, she pays for greece for the weekend, she pays fer-eme— greece for the weekend, she pays fer-ewe ebb— greece for the weekend, she pays for-and all that.- greece for the weekend, she pays for-and all that. liz- for the hotel and all that. liz ebewbe— for the hotel and all that. liz ebewbe ge— for the hotel and all that. liz ebewbe ge ewb— for the hotel and all that. liz should go out with me. i would breeb— should go out with me. i would breeb ber— should go out with me. i would treat her like— should go out with me. i would treat her like a— should go out with me. i would treat her like a lady. 37�*37�* treat her like a lady. ipp the pop— treat her like a lady. ipp the pop for_ treat her like a lady. ipp the pop for your lid. certainly. but. point is, is that but. but the point is, is that i don't think there should be a hard and fast rule if you're the kind of person, particularly male person, who believes that you have that role. there'll be women who believe that, too. i'm not them. do you know not one of them. do you know wbeb— not one of them. do you know wbeb .— not one of them. do you know wbeb ._k— not one of them. do you know what i-a gentleman- not one of them. do you know. what i-a gentleman should what i think? a gentleman should be—beeb. — what i think? a gentleman should be—beeb. bwb- what i think? a gentleman should be_fast. but well,i be both hard and fast. but well, eemebrmee— be both hard and fast. but well, sometimes hard— be both hard and fast. but well, sometimes hard and slow is good bee. — sometimes hard and slow is good bee. b-m. .— sometimes hard and slow is good bee. b-m. bmbgbb— sometimes hard and slow is good too. i might have revealed too. i'm. i might have revealed bee— too. i'm. i might have revealed bee mweb— too. i'm. i might have revealed bee mweb wbbb— too. i'm. i might have revealed too much with that— too. i might have revealed too much with that remark, emma. veere— too much with that remark, emma. you're absolutely— too much with that remark, emma. you're absolutely right.— too much with that remark, emma. you're absolutely right. but- you're absolutely right. but i always say, i promise you, i don't ever embarrass anybody. i say, let's let's go out for dinner. great. but dinner. that's great. but there's strict rule i'm there's one strict rule i'm paying. there you go. let's make that clear. after. after the papers at ten, at 1030. an exclusive new report- lri" l 0�*30 an exclusive new report has lri" l �*030 an exclusive new report has come ewb— exclusive new report has come ewb bbeb— exclusive new report has come out that suggests— exclusive new report has come out that suggests that right wing— out that suggests that right wing wemer— out that suggests that right wing women more attractive. wing women are more attractive. were— wing women are more attractive. we-re-eebebe- wing women are more attractive. we're-debate that- wing women are more attractive. we're debate that at we're going to debate that at bebb— we're going to debate that at bees-bebere - we're going to debate that at 1045-papers. you. we're going to debate that at 1045 papers. you got me 1045 with the papers. you got me on, 1045 with the papers. you got me e—wew-re e beb- on, mark. well, you're a hot bebbw— on, mark. well, you're a hot bebbw-bmew— on, mark. well, you're a hot lefty-know-but. on, mark. well, you're a hot

lefty-know-but ai lefty, we know that. but a eebebrbbw— lefty, we know that. but a celebrity chef— lefty, we know that. but a celebrity chef has banned vegans mem— celebrity chef has banned vegans brem bbe— celebrity chef has banned vegans from his restaurant— celebrity chef has banned vegans from his restaurant due to member— from his restaurant due to mental health— from his restaurant due to mental health reasons . chef john mental health reasons. chef john wewmbem— mental health reasons. chef john wewmbem bee— mental health reasons. chef john mountain has banned the vegans emer— mountain has banned the vegans ebber ee— mountain has banned the vegans after one complained about the beek— after one complained about the beeb eb— after one complained about the lack of options— after one complained about the lack of options at— after one complained about the lack of options at his restaurant. - lack of options at his restaurant. he said the eembbemb— restaurant. he said the complaint result in lots of one eber— complaint result in lots of one eber ewewe— complaint result in lots of one star reviews in— complaint result in lots of one star reviews in turn hurting his bwemeee— star reviews in turn hurting his bwemeee eme— star reviews in turn hurting his business and his— star reviews in turn hurting his business and his mental health. so business and his mental health. se bb— business and his mental health. se bb bege— business and his mental health. se bb bege bbe— business and his mental health. so it begs the question are eegme— so it begs the question are eegme e— so it begs the question are egee e bem— so it begs the question are vegans a pain in the ? emma vegans a pain in the? emma vegeme— vegans a pain in the? emma vegeme bbe— vegans a pain in the? emma vegans like everybody , can be as vegans like everybody, can be as mweb— vegans like everybody, can be as mweb eb— vegans like everybody, can be as mweb eb e— vegans like everybody, can be as mweb eb e bem— vegans like everybody, can be as much of a pain in— vegans like everybody, can be as much of a pain in the as they wemb— much of a pain in the as they wemb be— much of a pain in the as they wemb be be. — much of a pain in the as they wemb be be. .— much of a pain in the as they want to be. : i l want to be. i wouldn't say i mean the people whose mental health i worry about more, frankly, chefs , because i've frankly, is chefs, because i've never a sane chef never met a sane chef because they work long hours, lot of stress. it's all like gordon bemeew— it's all like gordon ramsay syndrome. with stress. it's all like gordon- ramsay syndrome-with a ramsay syndrome. i was with a guy— ramsay syndrome. i was with a gww weeberbew— ramsay syndrome. i was with a guy yesterdavr a_ ramsay syndrome. i was with a guy yesterday, a friend of mine eebbee—e- guy yesterday, a friend of minei eebbee—e wegem called joel, who's been a vegan for called joel, who's been a vegan fer—we- called joel, who's been a vegan fer—we beel for ten years. plus. he had a nightmare, actually explaining for ten years. plus. he had a nightma wantedally explaining for ten years. plus. he had a nightma wanted in! explaining for ten years. plus. he had a nightma wanted in hisplaining for ten years. plus. he had a nightma wanted in his restaurant what he wanted in his restaurant in that in chelsea. right. and that shouldn't i go shouldn't be the case. i go around corp hospitality at football grounds all around the country and they don't many of them at own qpr, them even at my own club, qpr, we have a vegan we don't even have a vegan option. embarrassing. we don't even have a vegan optiotwo embarrassing. we don't even have a vegan optiotwo separaterassing. we don't even have a vegan optiotwo separate vegan. we don't even have a vegan optiotwo separate vegan guests take two separate vegan guests throughout have throughout the season. have to battle get something vegan, battle to get something vegan, isn't isn't isn't isn't vegan, isn't vegan, isn't cuisine, food that cuisine, it's just food that lacks thing that we

lacks one thing that we don't eat. not asking eat. it's not we're not asking any reinvent the wheel any chefs to reinvent the wheel in confines of the kitchen in the confines of the kitchen to in their own to change the world in their own vision. they do look at genuine egem — vision. they do look at genuine egem .geb— vision. they do look at genuine wegem-geb rebe— vision. they do look at genuine vegan. .got lots of- . they do look at genuine vegan. got lots of respect vegan. i've got lots of respect forw— vegan. i've got lots of respect fer—bbembw- for, but there's plenty of weemeg— for, but there's plenty of vegeme—bbei for, but there's plenty of- vegans._the other vegans. and what's the other erre— vegans. and what's the other| one? _vegetarians vegans. and what's the other- one? _vegetarians who one? vegans and vegetarians who do one? vegans and vegetarians who we bb— one? vegans and vegetarians who we bb ee— one? vegans and vegetarians who we bb ee e— one? vegans and vegetarians who we bb ee e eere— one? vegans and vegetarians who do it as a sort of— one? vegans and vegetarians who do it as a sort of life— one? vegans and vegetarians who do it as a sort of life plan bebbew— do it as a sort of life plan bebbew be— do it as a sort of life plan bebbew be be— do it as a sort of life plan policy to be accepted in areas wbere— policy to be accepted in areas wbere bbew— policy to be accepted in areas where they want— policy to be accepted in areas where they want to be accepted eme— where they want to be accepted eme bbew-re — where they want to be accepted eme bbew-re meb— where they want to be accepted and they're not really vegans. do and they're not really vegans. be wew— and they're not really vegans. do you remember— and they're not really vegans. do you remember that great film sewm — do you remember that great film sewm wbere— do you remember that great film scum where there— do you remember that great film scum where there was a the bloke in jail— scum where there was a the bloke m iebb eere.— scum where there was a the bloke m febb eere. b-m— scum where there was a the bloke in jail said, i'm a— scum where there was a the bloke in jail said, i'm a vegan and wbe-e— in jail said, i'm a vegan and we bbe— in jail said, i'm a vegan and who's the great— in jail said, i'm a vegan and who's the great west ham beebbebb— who's the great west ham football fan?— who's the great west ham football fan? actor, you know, rav— football fan? actor, you know, ray wmebeme — football fan? actor, you know, ray wmebeme .— football fan? actor, you know, ray winstone . ray winstone, ray ray winstone. ray winstone, ray wmebeme— ray winstone. ray winstone, ray winstone offered _ ray winstone. ray winstone, ray winstone offered him a sausage and winstone offered him a sausage eme be— winstone offered him a sausage and he shuffled— winstone offered him a sausage and he snuffled a— winstone offered him a sausage and he snuffled a sausage beee— and he snuffled a sausage bee be— and he snuffled a sausage because he was- and he snuffled a sausage because he was really a vegan exembbe— because he was really a vegan exembbe brem — because he was really a vegan exembbe brem e— because he was really a vegan example from a fictional film. b-m — example from a fictional film. b-m wer— example from a fictional film. i'm sure that's— example from a fictional film. i'm sure that's not— example from a fictional film. i'm sure that's not really- example from a fictional film. i'm sure that's not really fake. no, but as far as i'm concerned, bbeb— no, but as far as i'm concerned, bbeb eewe— no, but as far as i'm concerned, bbeb eewe bb— no, but as far as i'm concerned, that says it all. _ no, but as far as i'm concerned, that says it all. you- no, but as far as i'm concerned, that says it all. v/rirl. that says it all. you know, listen, i've got lots of vegan viewers and listeners and you're all gorgeous, but what do you think ? are you a pain in the? think? are you a pain in the? beb— think? are you a pain in the? beb me— think? are you a pain in the? beb me mew.— “

ashley cain who will tell the mereebbbw— ashley cain who will tell the incredibly-story- incredibly moving story of beemg— incredibly moving story of losing-little- incredibly moving story of losing little girl to losing his little girl to leukaemia— losing his little girl to leukaemia at the age of just ebgbb— leukaemia at the age of just ebgbb membe— leukaemia at the age of just eight months old. he's doing eemebbmg— eight months old. he's doing something special to something very special to acknowledge _ something very special to acknowledge her legacy. that's .

next it's next- it's time weeb- it's time now weeb— it's time now for this is. weeb— it's time now for this is . yes, it's time now for this is. yes, indeed — it's time now for this is. yes, indeed be— it's time now for this is. yes, indeed. it's time— it's time now for this is. yes, indeed. it's time for mark meets . m— indeed. it's time for mark meets . m wbbeb— indeed. it's time for mark meets . m wbbeb .— indeed. it's time for mark meets , in which i speak— indeed. it's time for mark meets , in which i speak to the bbggeeb— , in which i speak to the biggest names in the world of perime— biggest names in the world of politics, showbiz— biggest names in the world of politics, showbiz sport and beweme— politics, showbiz sport and beweme .— politics, showbiz sport and beweme . ame— politics, showbiz sport and beyond . and tonight, former top beyond. and tonight, former top brebeeebemeb— beyond. and tonight, former top professional footballer ashley cem— professional footballer ashley cebm wbe— professional footballer ashley cain, who has— professional footballer ashley cain, who has a— professional footballer ashley cain, who has a history of bold eewembwree— cain, who has a history of bold eewembwree .— cain, who has a history of bold adventures , including five adventures, including five merebbeme— adventures, including five marathons in— adventures, including five marathons in five days and ewebmg— marathons in five days and ewebmg mem — marathons in five days and cycling from land's end to john o-ereebe.— cycling from land's end to john o-ereebe. bwb— cycling from land's end to john o'groats. but he's— cycling from land's end to john o'groats. but he's taking it up a o'groats. but he's taking it up e bever— o'groats. but he's taking it up e beweb meeb— o'groats. but he's taking it up a level next month by doing the wewe-e— a level next month by doing the world's toughest— a level next month by doing the world's toughest survival race, the world's toughest survival race, bbe ewbem— world's toughest survival race, the yukon 1000, _ world's toughest survival race, the yukon 1000, which will see bbm — the yukon 1000, which will see bbm kayak— the yukon 1000, which will see him kayak down— the yukon 1000, which will see him kayak down the famous yukon bever— him kayak down the famous yukon bwer. wbbeb— him kayak down the famous yukon bwer. wbbeb be— him kayak down the famous yukon river, which is treacherous all the river, which is treacherous all bbe wew— river, which is treacherous all bbe wew brem — river, which is treacherous all the way from canada through the

brewe— the way from canada through the arebbe cbrebe— the way from canada through the arctic circle and— the way from canada through the arctic circle and then onto abeebe— arctic circle and then onto abeebe. abb— arctic circle and then onto alaska. all in— arctic circle and then onto alaska. all in ten days. it's a booe— alaska. all in ten days. it's a bee mie— alaska. all in ten days. it's a 1000 mile race,— alaska. all in ten days. it's a 1000 mile race, much of which is wbbeemeee— 1000 mile race, much of which is wbbeemeee m— 1000 mile race, much of which is wilderness in horrific conditions- wilderness in horrific conditions with no support beeme— conditions with no support beeme wbw— conditions with no support teams. why is— conditions with no support teams. why is he doing this ? teams. why is he doing this? webb— teams. why is he doing this? were re— teams. why is he doing this? well, in memory— teams. why is he doing this? well, in memory of his beloved bbbbe— well, in memory of his beloved bbbbbe gbrb— well, in memory of his beloved little girl, azaylia_ well, in memory of his beloved little girl, azaylia diamond cem— little girl, azaylia diamond cebm wbe— little girl, azaylia diamond cain, who he— little girl, azaylia diamond cain, who he lost to leukaemia in cain, who he lost to leukaemia m 2020— cain, who he lost to leukaemia m 2020 eb— cain, who he lost to leukaemia in 2020 at just— cain, who he lost to leukaemia in 2020 at just eight months old— in 2020 at just eight months ebe. aebbew— in 2020 at just eight months old, ashley has— in 2020 at just eight months old, ashley has written a moving eewm— old, ashley has written a moving eewm eb— old, ashley has written a moving account of his— old, ashley has written a moving account of his tragic ordeal in account of his tragic ordeal in e brewe— account of his tragic ordeal in e breme ew— account of his tragic ordeal in a brand new book, which is winning— a brand new book, which is winning ree— a brand new book, which is winning rave reviews , strong winning rave reviews, strong bbe— winning rave reviews, strong bbe beee— winning rave reviews, strong bbe beee eme— winning rave reviews, strong life loss and eternal love for my— life loss and eternal love for w bewgbber— life loss and eternal love for w bewgbber be— life loss and eternal love for my daughter is out now . ashley my daughter is out now. ashley a joy to— my daughter is out now. ashley a few be bewe— my daughter is out now. ashley a few be bewe wew— my daughter is out now. ashley a few be bewe wew em— my daughter is out now. ashley a joy to have you on the show . can joy to have you on the show. can you— joy to have you on the show. can wew bebb— joy to have you on the show. can wew bebb me— joy to have you on the show. can wew bebb me e— joy to have you on the show. can you tell me a little— joy to have you on the show. can you tell me a little bit about azewbe— you tell me a little bit about azewbe e— you tell me a little bit about azaylia ? what— you tell me a little bit about azaylia ? what kind of girl was azaylia? what kind of girl was ebee— azaylia? what kind of girl was ebee bebb— azaylia? what kind of girl was ebee rebb me— azaylia? what kind of girl was she? tell me about her bereemebbw— she? tell me about her personality and her spirit. it . personality and her spirit. it. hi personality and her spirit. it. m were — personality and her spirit. it. hi there. first— personality and her spirit. it. hi there. first of- personality and her spirit. it. hi there. first of all, thank you for having me. pleasure. aslef leah he's just a magnificent little girl . she's

magnificent little girl. she's the most beautiful girl i ever set eyes on. and something about azaylia is when we found out that she had leukaemia . you that she had leukaemia. you know, i thought that i had to be strong for her. i thought i had to be courageous for her. i thought that i always had to smile to liven up the room and the around and the environment around her. and it out did all of it turned out she did all of those us. she was the those things for us. she was the strongest little girl i know, and had such a bright and she had such a bright personality lit the personality that lit up the room. it was infectious, and that's she didn't that's why i think she didn't only inspire me and my family, but people around the world dunng but people around the world during the global pandemic, she was she was special. and that's why i want to dedicate the rest of my life now to carrying on her amazing legacy and a stunningly beautiful little girl as well. let me tell you now, aebbew— as well. let me tell you now, ashlevr ebe— as well. let me tell you now, ashley, she was— let me tell you now, ashley, she was diagnosed with a werw— ashley, she was diagnosed with a werw eggreeewe— ashley, she was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer , acute very aggressive cancer, acute mwebebe— very aggressive cancer, acute myeloid leukaemia at just two membe— myeloid leukaemia at just two membbe ebe.— myeloid leukaemia at just two months old. can— myeloid leukaemia at just two months old. can you give me a aebbew— months old. can you give me a sense, ashley, of— months old. can you give me a sense, ashley, of your emotions wbem— sense, ashley, of your emotions wbem wew— sense, ashley, of your emotions when you received— sense, ashley, of your emotions when you received this .horrific ebegmeebe— when you received this .horrific

ebegmeebe .— when you received this .horrific ebegmeebe . .— when you received this .horrific diagnosis . i mean, i've done diagnosis. i mean, i've done a lot diagnosis. i mean, i've done a beb eb— diagnosis. i mean, i've done a beb eb bbmge— diagnosis. i mean, i've done a lot of things in— diagnosis. i mean, i've done a lot of things in my life, but mebbmg— lot of things in my life, but nothing compares to being a bebber. — nothing compares to being a father. when— nothing compares to being a father. when i— nothing compares to being a father. when i had- nothing compares to being a father. i “pr: father. when i had azaylia, she completed my life and when i got that news, i can't really explain how i found everything moves slow life didn't have no colour and for a long period of time i didn't really know how to move through my day and operate because if i lost, my whole world had crumbled . it felt like world had crumbled. it felt like i'd won the lottery in reverse because you never, ever think that anything like that is going to to a parent. to happen to you as a parent. and you definitely don't think it's happen to it's going to happen to your child. as child. but then instantly, as soon found out we were soon as we found out we were moved birmingham children's moved into birmingham children's hosphal moved into birmingham children's hospital, which became our second that's we second home, and that's where we lived months. and it's lived for six months. and it's incredibly traumatic . nick and incredibly traumatic. nick and it's a situation as a parent that breaks you down to your lowest point . but also i had the lowest point. but also i had the most beautiful, all lowest point. but also i had the most beautiful , all powerful lowest point. but also i had the most beautiful, all powerful and incredible days in that hospital because i was by her side . and because i was by her side. and

she's just the best thing that has ever happened to me in my life. and it was an absolute honour to be there with her because because she taught me so much in those eight months that i just really want to carry on spreading that to the world. now well, the pictures alone. ashley are well, the pictures alone. ashley ere-wew— well, the pictures alone. ashley are-very inspiring- well, the pictures alone. ashley are-very inspiring .- well, the pictures alone. ashley are very inspiring . you've are very, very inspiring. you've ereebee— are very, very inspiring. you've ereebee e— are very, very inspiring. you've created a foundation in azewbe-e— created a foundation in azaylia's name to fundraise and to azaylia's name to fundraise and be reree— azaylia's name to fundraise and to raise awareness— azaylia's name to fundraise and to raise awareness of childhood cancer. you've got— to raise awareness of childhood cancer. you've got the book, wbbeb— cancer. you've got the book, wbbeb bwe— cancer. you've got the book, which i've just— cancer. you've got the book, which i've just started . it's which i've just started. it's a ereebmg— which i've just started. it's a cracking read.— which i've just started. it's a cracking read. here it is. and ame— cracking read. here it is. and ame wew-re— cracking read. here it is. and and you're about— cracking read. here it is. and and you're about to row the ewbem— and you're about to row the ewbem .— and you're about to row the ewbem . bb— and you're about to row the yukon . it seems— and you're about to row the yukon . it seems this and you're about to row the yukon. it seems this is all ebewb— yukon. it seems this is all ebewb gwmg— yukon. it seems this is all about giving your daughter a begeew— about giving your daughter a begeew .— about giving your daughter a begeew . bee. — about giving your daughter a begeew . bee. .— about giving your daughter a legacy . 100. i �*7 legacy. 100. i mean, firstly, with the foundation, childhood cancer is the number one killer of our children in the uk, the number one. and it receives less than 3% of cancer research funding. so the system is broken. and, you know, for me, no child deserves to go . what no child deserves to go. what they go through, what azaylia went and no parent went through and no parent should have to what i feel. should have to feel what i feel. so want to make so we really want to make a difference the azaylia difference with the azaylia

foundation and we are. and it was writing my daughter's was in writing my daughter's eulogy that i found out the person wanted to be and person that i wanted to be and the things that i would need to do. because my life was do. and because my life was comprised of hospital comprised of a hospital room with azaylia, my with azaylia, now it's my opportunity her around opportunity to take her around the nothing but the world with nothing but daddy power, in raising power, and in doing so, raising awareness and funds these awareness and funds for these children still have to children who still have to fight. well, think it's fight. well, i think it's fantastic— fight. well, i think it's fantasticihere- fight. well, i think it's- fantastici here - book. fantastic. here is the book. bwe— fantastic. here is the book. bwe-memw- fantastic. here is the book. i've-many books. fantastic. here is the book. i've many books in the i've got so many books in the studio,— i've got so many books in the studio, but— i've got so many books in the studio, but this— i've got so many books in the studio, but this is— i've got so many books in the studio, but this is the one strong,— studio, but this is the one strong, okay?— studio, but this is the one strong, okay? it's winning rave —n-s- reviews. it's moving. it's important.— reviews. it's moving. it's- important-foundation reviews. it's moving. it's- important.-foundation is important. but the foundation is simply— important. but the foundation is simply called— important. but the foundation is simply called the— important. but the foundation is simply called the azaylia foundation— simply called the azaylia foundation as— simply called the azaylia foundation as well. listen you quite— foundation as well. listen you quite the— foundation as well. listen you were quite the specimen when you played— were quite the specimen when you played for— were quite the specimen when you played for coventry— were quite the specimen when you played for coventry city. i always— played for coventry city. i always admired your footballing skins.— always admired your footballing skins. are— always admired your footballing skins. are you— always admired your footballing skills. are you still fit? are you— skills. are you still fit? are you going— skills. are you still fit? are you going io— skills. are you still fit? are you going io io— skills. are you still fit? are you going to be all right for iiio— you going to be all right for iiio iig— you going to be all right for this big challenge ? i mean , i this big challenge? i mean, i think— this big challenge? i mean, i think physically— this big challenge? i mean, i think physically i'm capable, vou— think physically i'm capable, you know,— think physically i'm capable, you know, oni— think physically i'm capable, you know, and mentally i'm. rm.— you know, and mentally i'm. im im— you know, and mentally i'm. im im so— you know, and mentally i'm. i'm. i'm so strong.— you know, and mentally i'm. i'm. i'm so strong. and- you know, and mentally i'm. i'm. i'm so strong. and there's a lot of elements on this challenge, though, that can throw things. i mean, there's treacherous waters. there's the fact if you go in on a four fact that if you go in on a four mile lake, you're not really going to get out. if you get

hypothermia, a four day hypothermia, there's a four day extraction to get you. extraction session to get you. if you're in grizzly bear or wolf territory , there's not much wolf territory, there's not much you can do there . so there's you can do there. so there's a lot of elements that can go against us. ashley, ashley , we against us. ashley, ashley, we are rooting for you. i'll be watching. come- are rooting for you. i'll be watching. come and- g i'll be watching. come and tell us about it watching. come and tell us about i whoo— watching. come and tell us about i when you— watching. come and tell us about it when you complete the oioiiougo, — it when you complete the challenge, you're the challenge, you're a hero. the book-o— challenge, you're a hero. the iook-o—uol challenge, you're a hero. the iook-o—uu i-ii| challenge, you're a hero. the. book's—up, i'll be book's out now. next up, i'll be iooiiug— book's out now. next up, i'll be iooiiug with— book's out now. next up, i'll be dealing with the— book's out now. next up, i'll be dealing with the school pupil iiioi— dealing with the school pupil iiioi minio— dealing with the school pupil that thinks they're a cat miaow

it's 10:00 on television, on radio— it's10:00 on television, on radio oni— it's10:00 on television, on radio and online- it's10:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom— radio and online in the united kingdom oni— radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. inn— kingdom and across the world. inio io— kingdom and across the world. inio is monk— kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. in my iono— this is mark dolan tonight. in my one oi— this is mark dolan tonight. in my iono oi ion— this is mark dolan tonight. in my take at ten, my first on air noooiion— my take at ten, my first on air noooiion io— my take at ten, my first on air reaction to the— my take at ten, my first on air reaction to the news that a sonooi— reaction to the news that a sonooi pupi— reaction to the news that a school pupil thinks she's a cat oni— school pupil thinks she's a cat and teachers— school pupil thinks she's a cat and teachers are— school pupil thinks she's a cat and teachers are encouraging it . ino— and teachers are encouraging it . ine eoee— and teachers are encouraging it . ine ion— and teachers are encouraging it . the case for home schooling growe— . the case for home schooling grows by— . the case for home schooling gnowe iy ine— . the case for home schooling gnowe iy ine ony— . the case for home schooling grows by the day. you won't want to grows by the day. you won't want io nine— grows by the day. you won't want io ny— grows by the day. you won't want to miss my explosive response to

inie— to miss my explosive response to one enoeiing— to miss my explosive response to this shocking story— to miss my explosive response to this shocking story .— to miss my explosive response to this shocking story . also, as this shocking story. also, as iioiogieoi— this shocking story. also, as biological males continue to ponieipoie— biological males continue to ponieigoie in— biological males continue to participate in female sport, niii— participate in female sport, niii ine— participate in female sport, will the woke— participate in female sport, will the woke war on women ever eni— will the woke war on women ever end i— will the woke war on women ever end i iii— will the woke war on women ever end e in ne— will the woke war on women ever end ? i'll be asking— will the woke war on women ever end ? i'll be asking tonight's end? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, olympic swimmer snonon— newsmaker, olympic swimmer sharron davies— newsmaker, olympic swimmer sharron davies ,_ newsmaker, olympic swimmer sharron davies , obe and dolan . sharron davies, obe and dolan. ionigni— sharron davies, obe and dolan. ionigni io— sharron davies, obe and dolan. ionigni ie ine— sharron davies, obe and dolan. tonight is the home of the ingen— tonight is the home of the papers witn— tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages— papers with tomorrow's front page from — papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 sharp . pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so o— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so o iuey— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so o iuey noun— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so a busy hour to— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so a busy hour to come. it's a noi— so a busy hour to come. it's a no eunnnnen— so a busy hour to come. it's a hot summer night.— so a busy hour to come. it's a hot summer night. isn't the neoinen— hot summer night. isn't the weather gorgeous ? so grab weather gorgeous? so grab eoneining— weather gorgeous? so grab something cold and fizzy from the something cold and fizzy from ine nigge— something cold and fizzy from ine iniige on— something cold and fizzy from the fridge or fire— something cold and fizzy from the fridge or fire up the kettle oni— the fridge or fire up the kettle one iei-e— the fridge or fire up the kettle and let's have— the fridge or fire up the kettle and let's have a— the fridge or fire up the kettle and let's have a fun friday nigni.— and let's have a fun friday nigni. ny— and let's have a fun friday nigni. iiy none— and let's have a fun friday night. my take at ten. and the onio— night. my take at ten. and the eniii uno— night. my take at ten. and the child who thinks— night. my take at ten. and the child who thinks she's a cat is next — child who thinks she's a cat is next nui— child who thinks she's a cat is next. but first,— child who thinks she's a cat is next. but first, the headlines nin— next. but first, the headlines niin ieony— next. but first, the headlines with rory smith— next. but first, the headlines with rory smith . “new next. but first, the headlines with rory smith . cg with rory smith. thank you very much, mark. mortgage holders struggling with repayments would

be given a 12 month grace period before repossessions begin . it's before repossessions begin. it's after the chancellor met with mortgage lenders to discuss what more can be done to support struggling households under the measures being rolled out in the coming weeks, borrowers will be able to extend the terms of their mortgages or temporarily move to an interest only plan . move to an interest only plan. but labour says the new measures are a weak response . but jeremy are a weak response. but jeremy hunt says the plans will help those who face losing their homes. the most significant thing is that they can pick up the phone to their bank or their mortgage lender and talk about their situation without any worry that it will impact their credit score. and if they decide to credit score. and if they decide io none— credit score. and if they decide to make their— min: c re; and if they decide to make their payments easier by exieniing— to make their payments easier by extending ine— to make their payments easier by extending the period of their nongoge— extending the period of their nongoge on— extending the period of their nongoge on ny— extending the period of their mortgage or by going to an inieneei— mortgage or by going to an interest only— mortgage or by going to an interest only package, they can go noon— interest only package, they can go back io — interest only package, they can go back to their— interest only package, they can go back to their original package— go back to their original package without any questions aged,— package without any questions asked, without _ package without any questions asked, without any impact on inein— asked, without any impact on inein oneiii— asked, without any impact on their credit score. _ asked, without any impact on their credit score. within six nonme— their credit score. within six months. that's— their credit score. within six months. that's the reassurance inn— months. that's the reassurance inoi peonie— months. that's the reassurance that people like— months. that's the reassurance that people like martin lewis nove—

that people like martin lewis nove been— that people like martin lewis have been saying will make a big difference— have been saying will make a big difference for— have been saying will make a big difference for families in those situations— difference for families in those situations .— difference for families in those situations . braintree district situations. braintree district couneii— situations. braintree district couneii noe— situations. braintree district council has lost— situations. braintree district council has lost an appeal over pione— council has lost an appeal over nine io— council has lost an appeal over pione io uee— council has lost an appeal over plans to use the— council has lost an appeal over plans to use the wethersfield ainieii— plans to use the wethersfield ainieii in— plans to use the wethersfield airfield in essex— plans to use the wethersfield airfield in essex to house oeyiun— airfield in essex to house asylum seekers. itizi. it c asylum seekers. the council brought legal action against the home office over the proposed use of the site to accommodate up to 1700 male asylum seekers for up to six months. the local authority argued proposals would breach planning control, but judges dismissed the appeal, ruling in favour of the home office . a cfd investigation into office. a cfd investigation into the fatal implosion of the titan submersible has been launched. the transportation safety board of canada will gather information and conduct interviews at the site. it will focus on the safety of the operation, not to determine civil or criminal liability strikes at heathrow have been called off as workers accept a new pay deal . more

called off as workers accept a new pay deal. more than called off as workers accept a new pay deal . more than 2000 new pay deal. more than 2000 staff members were due to strike for 31 days throughout the summer. unite union says workers will receive a pay increase of . will receive a pay increase of. between 15.5 and 17.5. it and the royal family were out in force today at ascot. the king and the queen led the traditional royal carriage procession that was around the parade ring in the glorious sunshine of earlier well, following them in another carriage was the prince and princess of wales, kate was wearing a red alexander mcqueen dress and a matching philip treacy hat. they were also joined by acting royalty. there you can see on television dame judi dench , who was in the judi dench, who was in the processions for a carriage tv onune processions for a carriage tv online dab+ radio, and on tunein . this is gb news nato. back to

. mark thanks , rory. welcome to mark thanks, rory. welcome to mark ooion— thanks, rory. welcome to mark i>oion ionigni— thanks, rory. welcome to mark i>oion ionigni .— thanks, rory. welcome to mark dolan tonight . right.- 1:33 welcome to mark dolan tonight. right. as iioiogieoi— dolan tonight. right. as biological males continue to ponieipoie— biological males continue to ponieigoie in— biological males continue to participate in female sport, niii— participate in female sport, niii ine— participate in female sport, will the woke— participate in female sport, will the woke war on women ever enge— will the woke war on women ever end? iii— will the woke war on women ever end? in ne— will the woke war on women ever end? i'll be asking— will the woke war on women ever end? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, olympic swimmer snonon— newsmaker, olympic swimmer sharron davies— newsmaker, olympic swimmer sharron davies obe and mark doion— sharron davies obe and mark dolan tonight— sharron davies obe and mark dolan tonight is— sharron davies obe and mark dolan tonight is the home of the ingen— dolan tonight is the home of the papers witn— dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's front pages— papers with tomorrow's front page from — papers with tomorrow's front pages from exactly 1030 sharp nin— pages from exactly 1030 sharp niin innee— pages from exactly 1030 sharp with three top— pages from exactly 1030 sharp with three top pundits who noven-i— with three top pundits who haven't been_ with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say one— haven't been told what to say one uno— haven't been told what to say and who don't— haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. big and who don't follow the script. nig eioniee— and who don't follow the script. nig eioniee .— and who don't follow the script. nig eionee , nig— and who don't follow the script. big stories , big guests and big stories, big guests and oinoye— big stories, big guests and oiuoye nig— big stories, big guests and always big opinions. this is monk— always big opinions. this is iionn ooion— always big opinions. this is mark dolan tonight. let's start witn— mark dolan tonight. let's start win my— mark dolan tonight. let's start win my one— mark dolan tonight. let's start win my one .— mark dolan tonight. let's start with my take . at— mark dolan tonight. let's start with my take . at ten. it would with my take. at ten. it would be funny— with my take. at ten. it would be funny i— with my take. at ten. it would be funny ii i— with my take. at ten. it would be funny if it wasn't so ieniiying— be funny if it wasn't so terrifying being following the enzy— terrifying being following the crazy exchange _ terrifying being following the crazy exchange between a teacher and o— crazy exchange between a teacher and o puni— crazy exchange between a teacher and o pugii in— crazy exchange between a teacher and o pugii in on— crazy exchange between a teacher and a pupil in an east sussex eenooi— and a pupil in an east sussex eenooi oven— and a pupil in an east sussex school over the— and a pupil in an east sussex school over the idea of a female pupil— school over the idea of a female pugii eoiiing— school over the idea of a female pupil calling herself a cat. a funny—

pupil calling herself a cat. a iiuny oi— pupil calling herself a cat. a flurry of anecdotes are flooding in oioui— flurry of anecdotes are flooding in about similar— flurry of anecdotes are flooding in about similar pupils in other eenooie— in about similar pupils in other eenooie oe— in about similar pupils in other schools as the _ in about similar pupils in other schools as the woman known as eniioin-e— schools as the woman known as britain's strictest— schools as the woman known as britain's strictest headteacher noinonine— britain's strictest headteacher katharine birbalsingh, who runs the katharine birbalsingh, who runs ine inuiy— katharine birbalsingh, who runs the truly inspirational state eenooi— the truly inspirational state school michaela, which has an inione— school michaela, which has an inioke oi— school michaela, which has an intake of some— school michaela, which has an intake of some of— school michaela, which has an intake of some of the most deprived— intake of some of the most deprived children in the oouniny— deprived children in the eouniny. nui— deprived children in the country. but through discipline and traditional— country. but through discipline and traditional values gets many of onen— and traditional values gets many of inen inio— and traditional values gets many of them into oxford and coniniige— of them into oxford and coniniige .— of them into oxford and cambridge . farage has said that cambridge. farage has said that this cambridge. farage has said that inieieiony— cambridge. farage has said that inieieiony io— cambridge. farage has said that this-story is not— cambridge. farage has said that this story is not made up. this cat story is not made up. sne— this cat story is not made up. sne iueeiei— this cat story is not made up. she tweeted the— this cat story is not made up. she tweeted the following . she she tweeted the following. she said, — she tweeted the following. she said, ieooie— she tweeted the following. she said, people are— she tweeted the following. she said, people are saying i'm eiiiy— said, people are saying i'm eiiiy ion— said, people are saying i'm silly for believing the story about— silly for believing the story about o— silly for believing the story about o coi— silly for believing the story about a cat .— silly for believing the story about a cat . i've been silly for believing the story about a cat. i've been hearing oioui— about a cat. i've been hearing about one,— about a cat. i've been hearing about cats, plural— about a cat. i've been hearing about cats, plural , for weeks about cats, plural, for weeks oni— about cats, plural, for weeks and nonine— about cats, plural, for weeks and months from different ieoenen— and months from different teachers in— and months from different teachers in person who have worked— teachers in person who have worked in— teachers in person who have worked in schools with cats in ine— worked in schools with cats in the classroom.— worked in schools with cats in the classroom. i've also had died— the classroom. i've also had direct messages— the classroom. i've also had direct messages from parents witn— direct messages from parents niin venous— direct messages from parents with various stories . this direct messages from parents with various stories. this is unai— with various stories. this is no noinene— with various stories. this is what happens when wokeism in one— what happens when wokeism in oinen uonei— what happens when wokeism in other words, extreme political correctness or— other words, extreme political correctness or cultural progressivism is left unchecked . vie-ve— progressivism is left unchecked . iie-ve nui— progressivism is left unchecked . iie-ye oui un— progressivism is left unchecked . we've put up with biological men participating in female

epon— men participating in female eponi, eniening— men participating in female sport, entering women's bathrooms— sport, entering women's bathrooms and rape crisis eeninee oni— bathrooms and rape crisis centres, and this madness neoenei— centres, and this madness reached its— centres, and this madness reached its nadir in scotland niin— reached its nadir in scotland niin o— reached its nadir in scotland with a double— reached its nadir in scotland with a double rapist who calls nineeii— with a double rapist who calls himself eilidh_ with a double rapist who calls himself eilidh bryson accommoda eoiei— himself eilidh bryson accommoda eoiei in— himself eilidh bryson accommoda eoiei in o— himself eilidh bryson accommoda cated in a women's— himself eilidh bryson accommoda cated in a women's prison . you cated in a women's prison. you eouiin-i— cated in a women's prison. you eouiin-i none— cated in a women's prison. you couldn't make it— cated in a women's prison. you couldn't make it up by accepting the couldn't make it up by accepting ine iieiion— couldn't make it up by accepting the fiction that— couldn't make it up by accepting the fiction that you can change you— the fiction that you can change your biological— the fiction that you can change your biological sex. or in the oi— your biological sex. or in the oi ine— your biological sex. or in the case of the little— your biological sex. or in the case of the little cat girl, unai— case of the little cat girl, what species— case of the little cat girl, what species you belong to. we nove— what species you belong to. we nove oneoiei— what species you belong to. we have created a— what species you belong to. we have created a monster. a noneien— have created a monster. a noneien in— have created a monster. a monster in which primary school eniiinen— monster in which primary school eniiinen oe— monster in which primary school children are being— monster in which primary school children are being asked whether iney— children are being asked whether iney ininn— children are being asked whether they think they're _ children are being asked whether they think they're a boy or a gin— they think they're a boy or a gini oni— they think they're a boy or a gini oni oe— they think they're a boy or a girl and are changing their name or girl and are changing their name on inein— girl and are changing their name or even their pronouns without nonenioi— or even their pronouns without parental knowledge or permission . in parental knowledge or permission . in iiieni — parental knowledge or permission . in rishi sunak_ parental knowledge or permission . in rishi sunak is— parental knowledge or permission . in rishi sunak is introducing a . in rishi sunak is introducing o ion— . in rishi sunak is introducing o ion io— . in rishi sunak is introducing o ion io eion— . in rishi sunak is introducing a law to stop that from happening- _ a law to stop that from happening. fair play . but i'll happening. fair play. but i'll be noneei,— happening. fair play. but i'll be honest, the— happening. fair play. but i'll be honest, the horse has bolted . noneien— be honest, the horse has bolted . noneien ie— be honest, the horse has bolted .wokeism is a— be honest, the horse has bolted . wokeism is a terrifying cult. if . wokeism is a terrifying cult. ii you— . wokeism is a terrifying cult. ii you io— . wokeism is a terrifying cult. ii you io noi— . wokeism is a terrifying cult. if you do not follow its bizarre oni— if you do not follow its bizarre and irrational— if you do not follow its bizarre and irrational scripture, you win— and irrational scripture, you niii ne— and irrational scripture, you will be vilified,— and irrational scripture, you will be vilified, attacked and

excommunicated for its great nonen— excommunicated for its great power comes from the mistaken iieo— power comes from the mistaken iieo inoi— power comes from the mistaken iieo inoi iney— power comes from the mistaken idea that they are— power comes from the mistaken idea that they are the nice neooie— idea that they are the nice people oii— idea that they are the nice people all appropriating ninineee— people all appropriating ninineee .— people all appropriating kindness , as— people all appropriating kindness , as has been their most kindness, as has been their most geniue— kindness, as has been their most geniue e— kindness, as has been their most geniue e none— kindness, as has been their most genius s move. but— kindness, as has been their most genius s move. but of course iney— genius s move. but of course iney oe— genius s move. but of course they are anything but. they are censorious thugs— they are anything but. they are censorious thugs who threaten nioienee— censorious thugs who threaten violence against— censorious thugs who threaten violence against women for eioniing— violence against women for eioniing un— violence against women for standing up for— violence against women for standing up for their sex based nignie— standing up for their sex based nignie .— standing up for their sex based nignie . iney-ne— standing up for their sex based rights . they're against freedom rights. they're against freedom of rights. they're against freedom oi eneeen— rights. they're against freedom oi eoeeen oni— rights. they're against freedom of speech and expression and iney— of speech and expression and iney eeen— of speech and expression and iney eeen io— of speech and expression and they seek to end— of speech and expression and they seek to end careers and ieeinoy— they seek to end careers and destroy livelihoods . as for destroy livelihoods. as for nyone— destroy livelihoods. as for nyone nio— destroy livelihoods. as for anyone who doesn't accept that iney-ne— anyone who doesn't accept that iney-ne uneiie— anyone who doesn't accept that they're upside down, topsy turvy iioiogy— they're upside down, topsy turvy biology denying— they're upside down, topsy turvy biology denying flat earth noniinien— biology denying flat earth worldview .— biology denying flat earth worldview . the problem with this worldview. the problem with this ioni— worldview. the problem with this ionn none— worldview. the problem with this dark woke stuff— worldview. the problem with this dark woke stuff is— worldview. the problem with this dark woke stuff is none of it nonee— dark woke stuff is none of it makes sense— dark woke stuff is none of it makes sense .— dark woke stuff is none of it makes sense . and that will makes sense. and that will uiiinoieiy— makes sense. and that will ultimately be— makes sense. and that will ultimately be its undoing . it ultimately be its undoing. it ioeen-i— ultimately be its undoing. it doesn't make— ultimately be its undoing. it doesn't make sense that the evil eounge— doesn't make sense that the evil eounge oi— doesn't make sense that the evil scourge of racism _ doesn't make sense that the evil scourge of racism is— doesn't make sense that the evil scourge of racism is solved by eegnegoiing— scourge of racism is solved by segregating people or deciding as segregating people or deciding oe ie— segregating people or deciding oe ie ine— segregating people or deciding as is the credo— segregating people or deciding as is the credo of— segregating people or deciding as is the credo of controversial eniiieoi— as is the credo of controversial eniiieoi oe— as is the credo of controversial critical race theory— as is the credo of controversial critical race theory that you noeiei— critical race theory that you are racist based— critical race theory that you are racist based upon the colour of are racist based upon the colour oi youn— are racist based upon the colour oi youn enn— are racist based upon the colour of your skin. it's— are racist based upon the colour of your skin. it's like the

gneoi— of your skin. it's like the great martin— of your skin. it's like the great martin luther king never noooenei— great martin luther king never noinenei .— great martin luther king never noinenei , nui— great martin luther king never happened , but this contested happened, but this contested iieoiogy— happened, but this contested iieoiogy ie— happened, but this contested ideology is being taught in many eenooie— ideology is being taught in many eenooie oe— ideology is being taught in many schools as fact— ideology is being taught in many schools as fact labelling. enien— schools as fact labelling. british children of colour eiennoi— british children of colour eternal victims is. i don't see any— eternal victims is. i don't see ony oi— eternal victims is. i don't see ony oi oun— eternal victims is. i don't see any of our wonderful, diverse enien— any of our wonderful, diverse british children— any of our wonderful, diverse british children as victims. i inen— british children as victims. i inen oe— british children as victims. i see them as the— british children as victims. i see them as the embodiment of our see them as the embodiment of iuiune— see them as the embodiment of our future greatness. this acas is our future greatness. this acas ie o— our future greatness. this acas ie o iieeoee— our future greatness. this acas is a disease of— our future greatness. this acas is a disease of the— our future greatness. this acas is a disease of the west . is a disease of the west. ieionie— is a disease of the west. islamic countries, for example, non-i— islamic countries, for example, non-i none— islamic countries, for example, non-i none ony— islamic countries, for example, won't have any of— islamic countries, for example, won't have any of this nonsense, but won't have any of this nonsense, iui ne-ne— won't have any of this nonsense, but we're taking— won't have any of this nonsense, but we're taking it— won't have any of this nonsense, but we're taking it all lying ionn— but we're taking it all lying ionn ion— but we're taking it all lying down for kids— but we're taking it all lying down for kids in some schools ieing— down for kids in some schools are being taught— down for kids in some schools are being taught there are over ioo— are being taught there are over we geniene— are being taught there are over 100 genders and— are being taught there are over 100 genders and you can call youneeii— 100 genders and you can call yourself whatever you're feeling like yourself whatever you're feeling iiie inoi— yourself whatever you're feeling iiie inoi ioy— yourself whatever you're feeling like that day in— yourself whatever you're feeling like that day in doing so, we ineeiing— like that day in doing so, we are breeding a— like that day in doing so, we are breeding a hellish new genenoiion— are breeding a hellish new generation of— are breeding a hellish new generation of self—indulge narcissists_ generation of self—indulge narcissists ,_ generation of self—indulge narcissists , children who do not narcissists, children who do not oinene— narcissists, children who do not oinene io— narcissists, children who do not oinene io o— narcissists, children who do not adhere to a gender stereotype oni— adhere to a gender stereotype oni nio— adhere to a gender stereotype oni nno nee— adhere to a gender stereotype and who were likely going to ieeone— and who were likely going to become goy— and who were likely going to become gay when they grew up are being— become gay when they grew up are being iiognoeei— become gay when they grew up are being diagnosed as— become gay when they grew up are being diagnosed as trans gender eniiinen— being diagnosed as trans gender children with— being diagnosed as trans gender children with mental health tine— children with mental health issues like autism or bipolar iieonien— issues like autism or bipolar disorder are— issues like autism or bipolar disorder are being told the

answer there— disorder are being told the answer there is— disorder are being told the answer there is they're in the nnong— answer there is they're in the nnong ioiy— answer there is they're in the nnong ioiy .— answer there is they're in the wrong body . this— answer there is they're in the wrong body . this comes at a wrong body. this comes at a nice— wrong body. this comes at a nice .— wrong body. this comes at a nice , niin— wrong body. this comes at a price , with 1000— wrong body. this comes at a price , with 1000 parents now price, with 1000 parents now eoneiiening— price, with 1000 parents now considering legal action against the considering legal action against ine uns— considering legal action against the nhs tavistock_ considering legal action against the nhs tavistock clinic for eoueing— the nhs tavistock clinic for causing irreversible damage to the causing irreversible damage to ine ioiiee— causing irreversible damage to the bodies of— causing irreversible damage to the bodies of their children. t ip_ the bodies of their children. tip oi— the bodies of their children. tip oi ine— the bodies of their children. tip of the iceberg. what's happening— tip of the iceberg. what's happening in— tip of the iceberg. what's happening in too many of our eenooie— happening in too many of our eenooie ie— happening in too many of our schools is the— happening in too many of our schools is the normalisation of none— schools is the normalisation of none iieoiogy— schools is the normalisation of woke ideology at— schools is the normalisation of woke ideology at best, it's brainwashing— woke ideology at best, it's brainwashing or grooming . at brainwashing or grooming. at noni— brainwashing or grooming. at oi iie— brainwashing or grooming. at worst, it's child— brainwashing or grooming. at worst, it's child abuse at every ienei— worst, it's child abuse at every ienei in— worst, it's child abuse at every level in society,— worst, it's child abuse at every level in society, in— worst, it's child abuse at every level in society, in our public institutions— level in society, in our public institutions ,_ level in society, in our public institutions , in— level in society, in our public institutions , in our schools and institutions, in our schools and niinin— institutions, in our schools and within corporations means it's iine— within corporations means it's iinne ion— within corporations means it's iinne ion on— within corporations means it's time for an all— within corporations means it's time for an all out war on woke . n— time for an all out war on woke . n noioniiy— time for an all out war on woke . n noioniiy oi— time for an all out war on woke . a majority of the— time for an all out war on woke . a majority of the british tuitio— . a majority of the british puiiie nno— . a majority of the british public who have been quiet for too public who have been quiet for ioo tong— public who have been quiet for ioo iong oni— public who have been quiet for too long and hoped this would go onoy— too long and hoped this would go onoy nuei— too long and hoped this would go onoy nuei non— too long and hoped this would go away must now speak out, eeoeeioiiy— away must now speak out, especially parents. this qatar eiony— especially parents. this qatar eiony pionee— especially parents. this qatar story proves how— especially parents. this qatar story proves how far we have noiei— story proves how far we have noiei inio— story proves how far we have waded into insanity . so why waded into insanity. so why ion-i— waded into insanity. so why ion-i ne— waded into insanity. so why ion-i ne flip— waded into insanity. so why don't we flip this logic on its neoie— don't we flip this logic on its neoie onoy— don't we flip this logic on its head? okay bear— don't we flip this logic on its head? okay bear with me. let's ion— head? okay bear with me. let's ioit oioui— head? okay bear with me. let's talk about how— head? okay bear with me. let's talk about how cats think of ineneeinee— talk about how cats think of themselves as— talk about how cats think of themselves as this is a little niieo— themselves as this is a little

niieo oi— themselves as this is a little niieo oi ny— themselves as this is a little video of my cat— themselves as this is a little video of my cat harry, named one— video of my cat harry, named oiien ine— video of my cat harry, named after the spurs— video of my cat harry, named after the spurs footballer, not the after the spurs footballer, not ine ninee.— after the spurs footballer, not ine nninee. i— after the spurs footballer, not the prince. i had— after the spurs footballer, not the prince. i had a chat with non— the prince. i had a chat with nonny eoniien— the prince. i had a chat with harry earlier and— the prince. i had a chat with harry earlier and he told me nee— harry earlier and he told me no noi— harry earlier and he told me he's not actually— harry earlier and he told me he's not actually a cat at all. go,— he's not actually a cat at all. no, no— he's not actually a cat at all. no, no, no, no, no.- he's not actually a cat at all. no, no, no, no, no. would you ieiiene— no, no, no, no, no. would you ieiiene ne— no, no, no, no, no. would you believe he identifies as the governor of _ believe he identifies as the governor of the _ believe he identifies as the governor of the bank of england? inoi-e— governor of the bank of england? we nigni— governor of the bank of england? we nigni. ne— governor of the bank of england? that's right. he thinks he's the eoennon oi— that's right. he thinks he's the governor of the _ that's right. he thinks he's the governor of the bank of england. he ieiie— governor of the bank of england. he ieiie ne— governor of the bank of england. he tells me that— governor of the bank of england. he tells me that he— governor of the bank of england. he tells me that he would have noieei— he tells me that he would have raised interest— he tells me that he would have raised interest rates a long iine— raised interest rates a long iine-ioii- time ago. he told me quantitative- time ago. he told me quantitative easing into quantitative easing got us into inie— quantitative easing got us into inie neee— quantitative easing got us into inie .— quantitative easing got us into this mess . there— quantitative easing got us into this mess. there you go. it; this mess. there you go. he's noi— this mess. there you go. he's noi o— this mess. there you go. he's noi o ion— this mess. there you go. he's noi o ion oi— this mess. there you go. he's not a fan of inflation. he- this mess. there you go. it; ”in?" " he likes not a fan of inflation. he likes nibbles instead.— not a fan of inflation. he likes nibbles instead. do— not a fan of inflation. he likes nibbles instead. do you- ”in?" " he likes nibbles instead. do you see how iizonne— nibbles instead. do you see how iizonne oii— nibbles instead. do you see how bizarre all this— nibbles instead. do you see how bizarre all this cat— nibbles instead. do you see how bizarre all this cat stuff is ? bizarre all this cat stuff is? iie— bizarre all this cat stuff is? in o— bizarre all this cat stuff is? it's a warning.— bizarre all this cat stuff is? it's a warning. we are a whisker onoy— it's a warning. we are a whisker onoy inon — it's a warning. we are a whisker onoy inon ine— it's a warning. we are a whisker away from the total breakdown of our away from the total breakdown of eoeieiy— away from the total breakdown of eoeieiy .— away from the total breakdown of our society . the— away from the total breakdown of our society . the time to act is our society. the time to act is ani— our society. the time to act is nni ii— our society. the time to act is miaow. and if we— our society. the time to act is miaow. and if we don't call this outn— miaow. and if we don't call this one ine— miaow. and if we don't call this one ine .— miaow. and if we don't call this out, we're the . real i'm sorry, out, we're the. real i'm sorry, iui— out, we're the. real i'm sorry, iui ne-ne— out, we're the. real i'm sorry, but we're laughing about the cat eiony.— but we're laughing about the cat eiony. nui— but we're laughing about the cat eiony. on i— but we're laughing about the cat story. but i think— but we're laughing about the cat story. but i think it's a line in ine— story. but i think it's a line in ine eoni.— story. but i think it's a line in the sand. i— story. but i think it's a line in the sand. i think it's a red iiog— in the sand. i think it's a red iiog. non,— in the sand. i think it's a red iiog. non, ny— in the sand. i think it's a red flag. now, by the— in the sand. i think it's a red flag. now, by the way, if there are flag. now, by the way, if there ginie— flag. now, by the way, if there ginie on— flag. now, by the way, if there are girls or boys— flag. now, by the way, if there are girls or boys at school who iieniiiy— are girls or boys at school who iieniiiy oe— are girls or boys at school who iieniiiy oe o— are girls or boys at school who identify as a furry—

are girls or boys at school who identify as a furry creature . identify as a furry creature. oh,— identify as a furry creature. 0g, onoy.— identify as a furry creature. on, onoy. iney— identify as a furry creature. oh, okay. they need love and eunnoni— oh, okay. they need love and eunnoni oni— oh, okay. they need love and support and counselling . they support and counselling. they ion-i— support and counselling. they ion-i neei— support and counselling. they don't need judgement. they don't neei— don't need judgement. they don't neei io— don't need judgement. they don't neei io ie— don't need judgement. they don't need to be attacked. those who neguine— need to be attacked. those who require judgement are the ieoenene— require judgement are the ieoenene .— require judgement are the teachers , the— require judgement are the teachers , the propound this teachers, the propound this nonsense. what's your view, iiongonei— nonsense. what's your view, nongonei en— nonsense. what's your view, margaret gb news .com. reacting to margaret gb news .com. reacting io ny— margaret gb news .com. reacting io nny ione— margaret gb news .com. reacting io nny ione oi— margaret gb news .com. reacting to my take at ten. _ margaret gb news .com. reacting to my take at ten. political eoneuiioni— to my take at ten. political consultant emma burnell broadcaster— consultant emma burnell broadcaster aidan magee and iieei— broadcaster aidan magee and iieei sineei— broadcaster aidan magee and fleet street legend mike porky ionny. — fleet street legend mike porky ionny. inno— fleet street legend mike porky parry. emma, your reaction to inie— parry. emma, your reaction to inie eiony— parry. emma, your reaction to inie eiony e— parry. emma, your reaction to inie eiony e i— parry. emma, your reaction to this story ? i mean, i have two this story? i mean, i have two neoeiione — this story? i mean, i have two reactions. first— this story? i mean, i have two reactions. first of- this story? i mean, i have two reactions. first of all, of course it's utterly ridiculous. no child is actually a cat. i just i wonder if we aren't massively overblowing this. first of all. and . the idea that first of all. and. the idea that 114 year old identifying a cat is what's going to bring down our society might be a sliver too far for me . our society might be a sliver too far for me. um, our society might be a sliver too far for me . um, look our society might be a sliver too far for me. um, look , i'm our society might be a sliver too far for me . um, look , i'm a too far for me. um, look, i'm a radical feminist. too far for me. um, look, i'm a radical feminist . you're going radical feminist. you're going to have the wonderful sharon davis on later. massive, massive fan. and i think what she's done in standing up for women's sex based rights is fantastic . based rights is fantastic. stick. i think an awful lot of

this is going to go away because it is it's a trend. this is going to go away because it is it's a trend . and, you it is it's a trend. and, you know, kids identifying as cats is in the same as middle in my hair purple age 12 and trying to make my mum cross that way. you push the boundaries and you see where you can get to with them. probably quickest way to probably the quickest way to stop this girl being able to identify as a cat is to tell her that that's fine and her mum thinks it's really cool because that's the last thing she's going want and but i just going to want and but i just think for the in terms of how you want to behave in your own life, do what you want, be happy . if you feel the need to curl up like a cat . . if you feel the need to curl up like a cat. i mean, maybe they should start feeding a cat food. but we're talking about eniiinen— food. but we're talking about children, though,— : but we're talking about children, though, here though. i children, though, here though. i mem— children, though, here though. i itin— children, though, here though. i mean, this-the— children, though, here though. i mean, thislthe thing.- children, though, here though. i mean, this is the thing. they have boundaries . yeah. have to have boundaries. yeah. yeah, if she wants to yeah, there is. if she wants to sit in her bedroom and miaow to herself, all. if, herself, no problem at all. if, on hand , she starts on the other hand, she starts insisting other people feed insisting that other people feed her food and milk she her cat food and milk and she lives of cat food and lives on a diet of cat food and milk, i don't think she'd lost

some of those flavours look quite actually. when quite nice, actually. when i feed the morning, the feed my cat in the morning, the smell just amy dowden obe. smell is just amy dowden obe. we can about it, but this we can laugh about it, but this is we can laugh about it, but this ie-ii— we can laugh about it, but this ie-ii goee— we can laugh about it, but this ie-ii goee vou- we can laugh about it, but this is it goes. you normalise is where it goes. you normalise inie— is where it goes. you normalise inie moneie — is where it goes. you normalise this madness. if— is where it goes. you normalise this madness. if i— is where it goes. you normalise this madness. if i told you ten yeone— this madness. if i told you ten yeone-inoi— this madness. if i told you ten yeone-inoi o— this madness. if i told you ten years that a pregnant woman years ago that a pregnant woman can years ago that a pregnant woman onenie-n— years ago that a pregnant woman onenie-n you-i— years ago that a pregnant woman can penis, you'd have can have a penis, you'd have iougnei— can have a penis, you'd have laughed-that- can have a penis, you'd have laughed-that too.- can have a penis, you'd have- laughed _that too.-here laughed about that too. and here we you're absolutely we are. yeah, you're absolutely nigni. — we are. yeah, you're absolutely nigni. -nonny- we are. yeah, you're absolutely right. _worry aboutl right. look, i do worry about education as a whole. actually, ihave education as a whole. actually, i have lots of teacher friends who appalled who are appalled by this behaviour, they do. they can behaviour, but they do. they can come examples sometimes. come up with examples sometimes. not as as grave not necessarily as. as as grave as one we're describing, as the one we're describing, but they other they can they can describe other examples cite examples examples or cite other examples of really peculiar of some really peculiar behaviour just things behaviour or just things appearing on the curriculum that couldn't that shouldn't be there. that this there. i don't believe that this is normalised throughout schools that the vast majority of teachers would think this was absolutely and it's teachers would think this was absnit'sely and it's teachers would think this was absnit's the and it's teachers would think this was absnit's the exception and it's teachers would think this was absnit's the exception rather's the it's the exception rather than but i do worry than the rule. but i do worry about our education because i think literacy and numeracy skills are pretty much below the rest of the eu and i think teachers have a responsibility to speak out when they think that the curriculum is not right. listen, you're a right. mike listen, you're a well—educated think you well—educated guy. i think you went

well—educated guy. i think you nennommoni-g- well—educated guy. i think you went-grammar school. well—educated guy. i think youi went-grammar school in went to a top grammar school in enemie— went to a top grammar school in weenie-youn— cheshire, didn't you? you neeni— cheshire, didn't you? you nenen-i—oil weren't taught any of this nonsense-i- weren't taught any of this nonsense. i think we're nonsense. no, i think we're ienini— nonsense. no, i think we're ienini ine— nonsense. no, i think we're behind the story here because is the behind the story here because is ine ineiieni— behind the story here because is the incident you're— behind the story here because is the incident you're talking oioui— the incident you're talking oioui no— the incident you're talking about was a— the incident you're talking about was a little girl oiiegeiiy— about was a little girl allegedly in- about was a little girl allegedly in a school in rye , i allegedly in a school in rye, i ininn. — allegedly in a school in rye, i ininn. onoy.— allegedly in a school in rye, i think. okay. but— allegedly in a school in rye, i think. okay. but i've- allegedly in a school in rye, i think. : think. okay. but i've read a report today that this is far more prevalent and it's not just little girls. i've read a report saying a 16 year old girl will identify guys as a cat in a school where as many as four or teen agers, the oldest being 16, identify as what is called as furries is that they are dedicated made to behaving like cats throughout the school day. and even worse , according to and even worse, according to this report i've read , and it this report i've read, and it was in a, you know, a very distinguished newspaper publication , an some other publication, an some other pupils go around the school with dog leads around their neck and are led by other pupils because

they're simulating being an animal being or a dog. that's just those nightclubs.- a" g citing that's just those nightclubs. you go to. just those nightclubs. you go io. inoi-e— just those nightclubs. you go to. that's those— just those nightclubs. you go to. that's those clubs you go to. that's those clubs you go io. nine— to. that's those clubs you go io. nine non,— to. that's those clubs you go to. mike now, this. \i:::i to. mike now, this. no, no, it's iney— to. mike now, this. no, no, it's they haven't actually specified they haven't actually specified the school, but they said the location bedfordshire. location is bedfordshire. so what saying is , is it's not what i'm saying is, is it's not just rumour , it's not just just rumour, it's not just gossip . somebody's gone and done gossip. somebody's gone and done a lot of research on this and it's far more prevalent with our teenage schoolchildren than anybody possibly could have imagined. briefly put your mind. i sort of at rest . a fairy isn't i sort of at rest. a fairy isn't nnoi— i sort of at rest. a fairy isn't nnoi you— i sort of at rest. a fairy isn't what you think— i sort of at rest. a fairy isn't what you think it- i sort of at rest. a fairy isn't what you think it is. it's not someone identifying as an onimoi— someone identifying as an animal. don't— someone identifying as an animal. don't be dismissive of it. animal. don't be dismissive of ii. im— animal. don't be dismissive of ii. in noi— animal. don't be dismissive of it. i'm not being— animal. don't be dismissive of it. i'm not being dismissive, nine.— it. i'm not being dismissive, nine. im— it. i'm not being dismissive, mike. i'm telling you, i know neny—nnoil very, very specifically what a nun— very, very specifically what a iunny ie — very, very specifically what a iunny ie i— very, very specifically what a furry is. i listened to a noieoei— furry is. i listened to a podcast that- furry is. i listened to a podcast that talks about them guiie— podcast that talks about them guiie-con— podcast that talks about them . quite-can-elaborate? quite often. can you elaborate? moi-e— quite often. can you elaborate? inoi-e mone— quite often. can you elaborate? that's morelfetish,_ quite often. can you elaborate? that's morelfetish, isn't- quite often. can you elaborate? that's more a fetish, isn't it? it's a fetish. it's fetish. i it's a fetish. it's a fetish. i ioni— it's a fetish. it's a fetish. i into-iie— it's a fetish. it's a fetish. i told - it's those - it's a fetish. it's a fetish. i told-it's those clubs.i it's a fetish. it's a fetish. i told it's those clubs. mike told you it's those clubs. mike type. it's those clubs . mike type. it's those clubs. mike goes to last aukus- e it mike goes to last aukus but emma, ion-i— goes to last aukus but emma, ion-i-ii-e— goes to last aukus but emma, don't-it's serious- don't you think it's serious inoi— don't you think it's serious that teenagers— don't you think it's serious that teenagers are acting like inie— that teenagers are acting like inie oni— that teenagers are acting like this and taking— that teenagers are acting like this and taking themselves eenioueiy— this and taking themselves eenioueiy-e - this and taking themselves seriously-? sex.

this and taking themselves. seriously-? sex no, i seriously as a cat? sex no, i mean, it's hardly unusual. i had a weird sex a teenager a lot of weird sex as a teenager . really? believe ijust. . really? i can believe ijust. tell me about the teacher. ieoonene— tell me about the teacher. teachers indulge,- tell me about the teacher. teachers indulge, urging the fantasy that you're another species than species is more damaging than wild sex in the car park. but listen, let me ask my viewers what think. mar—a—lago gb what they think. mar—a—lago gb news .com. do you think it's acceptable teachers acceptable for teachers to encourage to think they encourage a pupil to think they are cat at gb news .com is the are a cat at gb news .com is the email. the papers at 1030 email. we got the papers at 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction . you can set your clock to it, but next, as biological males continue participate in continue to participate in female will the woke war female sport, will the woke war on ever end? i'll be on women ever end? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, olympic sharron davies. olympic swimmer sharron davies. she's happy and she's next. she's not happy and she's next. yeah no, kyrees just get off this

listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. well, folks, you've got pupils iieniiiying— well, folks, you've got pupils iieniiiying oe— well, folks, you've got pupils identifying as cats. now an emoii— identifying as cats. now an emoii inom— identifying as cats. now an

email from rachel has come in oni— email from rachel has come in mi ene— email from rachel has come in mi ene eoye— email from rachel has come in and she says, hi,— email from rachel has come in and she says, hi, mark. my cat eeeon— and she says, hi, mark. my cat eeeon ie— and she says, hi, mark. my cat eeeon ie non— and she says, hi, mark. my cat oscar is now identifying as a ienoeioue— oscar is now identifying as a ferocious tiger.— oscar is now identifying as a ferocious tiger. what do we do how,— ferocious tiger. what do we do iioeneie— ferocious tiger. what do we do now, rachel? i'm— ferocious tiger. what do we do now, rachel? i'm afraid you're a nnieonen— now, rachel? i'm afraid you're a nnieonen oi— now, rachel? i'm afraid you're a nnieonen oi youn— now, rachel? i'm afraid you're a prisoner of your own home. what a prisoner of your own home. what o ienniiying — prisoner of your own home. what a terrifying creature. look at inoee— a terrifying creature. look at inoee ionge— a terrifying creature. look at those fangs as— a terrifying creature. look at those fangs as big reaction on on emoii— those fangs as big reaction on on emoii io— those fangs as big reaction on on email to this— those fangs as big reaction on on email to this market. works ioin— on email to this market. works ioin noye — on email to this market. works ioin noye ny— on email to this market. works both ways. my boxer dog identifies— both ways. my boxer dog identifies as— both ways. my boxer dog identifies as human. i asked him non— identifies as human. i asked him non ne— identifies as human. i asked him non ne ieii— identifies as human. i asked him how he felt this— identifies as human. i asked him how he felt this morning . he how he felt this morning. he answered. he— how he felt this morning. he answered. he felt a bit rough . answered. he felt a bit rough. nice— answered. he felt a bit rough. uiee ion— answered. he felt a bit rough. uiee ioie ion.— answered. he felt a bit rough. nice job, rob. all— answered. he felt a bit rough. nice job, rob. all the way from none— nice job, rob. all the way from none .— nice job, rob. all the way from none . ninety,— nice job, rob. all the way from hove . briefly, jane says, hove. briefly, jane says, i eouiin-i— hove. briefly, jane says, i couldn't believe a grown adult, eiueoiei— couldn't believe a grown adult, educated and— couldn't believe a grown adult, educated and teaching our future genenoiione— educated and teaching our future generations believes a child can be o— generations believes a child can be o eoi— generations believes a child can be a cat. absolutely shameful . be a cat. absolutely shameful. ani— be a cat. absolutely shameful. nni ioei— be a cat. absolutely shameful. nni ioei iui— be a cat. absolutely shameful. and last but not— be a cat. absolutely shameful. and last but not least, jacqui eoye— and last but not least, jacqui eoye ni. — and last but not least, jacqui eoye ni. nonn— and last but not least, jacqui says hi. mark, who let children ieeiie— says hi. mark, who let children ieeiie nnoi— says hi. mark, who let children decide what they— says hi. mark, who let children decide what they want to iieniiiy— decide what they want to iieniiiy oe— decide what they want to identify as ridiculous ? just identify as ridiculous? just ieii— identify as ridiculous? just ieiiinem— identify as ridiculous? just tell them to— identify as ridiculous? just tell them to shut up or get ieieniion— tell them to shut up or get detention. by— tell them to shut up or get detention. by the way, what a ioneiy— detention. by the way, what a ioneiy eoi— detention. by the way, what a ioneiy eoi you — detention. by the way, what a lovely cat you have. well, thank you,— lovely cat you have. well, thank you ioegui. — lovely cat you have. well, thank you, ioegui. inoi— lovely cat you have. well, thank you, jacqui. that is— lovely cat you have. well, thank you, jacqui. that is harry. and i'll you, jacqui. that is harry. and in ie— you, jacqui. that is harry. and i'll be honest— you, jacqui. that is harry. and i'll be honest now, he's an international— i'll be honest now, he's an international global superstar. it's international global superstar. ii-e iime— international global superstar. ii-eiimeion— international global superstar. it's time for the— international global superstar. it's time for the newsmaker in nnien— it's time for the newsmaker in nnien-io— it's time for the newsmaker in nnien-io o— it's time for the newsmaker in which to a fearless which we speak to a fearless commentator— which we speak to a fearless. commentator_ stories commentator on the big stories of commentator on the big stories oi-nni— commentator on the big stories oi-nni iney— commentator on the big stories of-and they don't- commentator on the big stories of and they don't get of the day. and they don't get more fearless— of the day. and they don't get more fearless olympic

more fearless than olympic swimmer turned author and inooieoeien— swimmer turned author and broadcaster davies obe, broadcaster sharon davies obe, nnoee— broadcaster sharon davies obe, whose new book— broadcaster sharon davies obe, whose new book about biological noniieiooie— whose new book about biological men participate in— whose new book about biological men participate in female sport eoiiei— men participate in female sport eoiiei ioin— men participate in female sport called fair play— men participate in female sport called fair play the battle for nomen-e— called fair play the battle for nomen-e stoni— called fair play the battle for women's sport is— called fair play the battle for women's sport is out now . it is women's sport is out now. it is eoiiei— women's sport is out now. it is called unfair— women's sport is out now. it is called unfair play.— women's sport is out now. it is called unfair play. there it is union— called unfair play. there it is unioin iioy— called unfair play. there it is unfair play the— called unfair play. there it is unfair play the battles for women's sports. i've got my copy nee.— women's sports. i've got my copy nene. ani— women's sports. i've got my copy here. and sharon— women's sports. i've got my copy here. and sharon ,_ women's sports. i've got my copy here. and sharon , you don't here. and sharon, you don't inimi— here. and sharon, you don't ininn inoi— here. and sharon, you don't think that biological males enouii— think that biological males enouii ie— think that biological males should be competing against women in female sport? why not? it's women in female sport? why not? in gooi— women in female sport? why not? it's good evening. _ women in female sport? why not? it's good evening. g it's good evening. i'm loving your— it's good evening. i'm loving your tie. this evening. and those lovely comments earlier . those lovely comments earlier. um, the book is all about the challenges to women's sport. so it starts talking about pierre de coubertin, who did everything in his power to keep women out of the olympic games and things like that. in this country. in the there's thousand the uk there's a thousand women that living from from that earn their living from from doing . there's nearly doing sport. there's nearly 11,000 men. and in america , the 11,000 men. and in america, the women get 1% of the sponsorship dollar that comes from sport and 4% of the air time. so our piece of the cake is already very,

very tiny and people think that it's getting bigger with things like women's football and women's bit of women's rugby and a bit of women's rugby and a bit of women's but sadly, a women's cricket. but sadly, a lot other sports are getting lot of other sports are getting practically at practically no coverage at all. and i went to the high and if i went on to the high street and said, please name me, you know, britain's best female swimmer, you'd probably really struggle, got struggle, even though we've got two medallists. so two olympic gold medallists. so it's going now are it's hard going and now we are we've situation where we've got this situation where there's 18 peer reviewed studies in world. not a single one in the world. not a single one of them says that we can remove male advantage male puberty advantage and that's men and that's why we have men and women's races. we have those races separate they're races separate because they're very different . anywhere between very different. anywhere between 10 and 30% at the olympic games, which massive. you know, this which is massive. you know, this is this the is a huge this is half the length of swimming pool. length of the swimming pool. okay. that's how different it is. suppressing is. and by suppressing testosterone, remove testosterone, we can't remove that that that advantage. and we know that we categorically we absolutely categorically know that. moment , we absolutely categorically know that. moment, what that. so at the moment, what we're asking, we're literally saying to girls and to saying to young girls and to women, you're not worthy of our sport. we're not going to give you sport . and that's when you fair sport. and that's when ihave you fair sport. and that's when i have a problem with, you know, actually have a problem actually we don't have a problem with in

with everyone being welcome in sport my for sport for all my life, for everyone be welcome in sport. everyone to be welcome in sport. but fair. and we but it just must be fair. and we mustn't , you know, the mustn't remove, you know, the opportunity young women to opportunity for young women to have great opportunities in sport. the sport. the equal, the opportunities get . you opportunities that men get. you know, fought so hard know, we fought so hard and we've lot of we've still got a lot of fighting to do , but at the fighting to do, but at the moment going backwards moment we're going backwards and it's really distressing. your views are hardly controversial. sharon , and in fact, the world's sharon, and in fact, the world's moei— sharon, and in fact, the world's moei iomou— sharon, and in fact, the world's most famous trans— sharon, and in fact, the world's most famous trans woman , caitlyn most famous trans woman, caitlyn iennen— most famous trans woman, caitlyn iennen noe— most famous trans woman, caitlyn iennen noe eoio— most famous trans woman, caitlyn jenner, has said biological men noniieinoiing— jenner, has said biological men poniieinoiing in— jenner, has said biological men participating in sport is participating in female sport is ieeniy— participating in female sport is ieeoiy unioin— participating in female sport is deeply unfair and must stop up. none— deeply unfair and must stop up. none you— deeply unfair and must stop up. none you inoio— deeply unfair and must stop up. none you noii o— deeply unfair and must stop up. have you paid a personal price for have you paid a personal price ion youn— have you paid a personal price ion youn viewe— have you paid a personal price for your views on _ have you paid a personal price for your views on this ? yeah, for your views on this? yeah, oieoiuieiy— for your views on this? yeah, oieoiuieiy. — for your views on this? yeah, absolutely . i— for your views on this? yeah, absolutely . " for your views on this? yeah, absolutely. for your views on this? yeah, absolutely . " absolutely. i mean, you know, the abuse that you get, it's sometimes it feels very much like a misogynistic movement. it feels like a men's rights movement in lots of cases. you know, we want your support. we want to come into your spaces. we will do this. it's and it's really difficult because i think actually a large number actually there's a large number of very genuine gender dysphoric, people who dysphoric, young people who really are paying a price now for this sort of misogynistic

movement that's coming from, you know, you were talking earlier about the scottish rapist, for example. i mean, that isn't someone that's had gender dysphoria from a very young age . who's decided . that's someone who's decided they're a cushier they're going to get a cushier life going into a women's prison. unfortunately, prison. and unfortunately, then that effect on that has a terrible effect on people that have gender people that have genuine gender dysphoria. we need to dysphoria. so i think we need to really step back and we need to look at what we're doing at the moment. was moment. you know, this was a mental health condition for a very long time. and then the world health organisation moved it of being a mental health it out of being a mental health condition and you have to kind of someone says, well, of wonder if someone says, well, i'm cat or i'm something else, i'm a cat or i'm something else, whether it's still a mental health condition, because the genuine is we have genuine truth is we have a reality our body. you know, reality of our body. you know, this is our body. it's the only body we're going to get. and therefore or maybe it's about trying to help people to be more secure and comfortable in the body that they've got rather than medically trying to change them, which will have dire long term consequences as well. oh, i'm thinking about the- oh, i'm thinking about the fact that you oe— i'm thinking about the fact that

you oi— i'm thinking about the fact that you are one of the— i'm thinking about the fact that you are one of the country's moei— you are one of the country's most accomplished and famous oinieiee— most accomplished and famous oinieiee .— most accomplished and famous athletes . what— most accomplished and famous athletes . what is— most accomplished and famous athletes . what is the point in a athletes. what is the point in a 9 on— athletes. what is the point in a 9 on ie— athletes. what is the point in a 9 on i9 yeon— athletes. what is the point in a 9 or 10 year old— athletes. what is the point in a 9 or 10 year old sharon davies giving— 9 or 10 year old sharon davies giving up— 9 or 10 year old sharon davies giving up iiee— 9 or 10 year old sharon davies giving up free time and missing eenooi— giving up free time and missing eenooi .— giving up free time and missing school , having— giving up free time and missing school , having 6— giving up free time and missing school, having 6 am. starts school, having 6 a.m. starts inei— school, having 6 am. starts iuei eo— school, having 6 a.m. starts iuei eo inoi— school, having 6 am. starts just so that ultimately they viii— just so that ultimately they niii ioee— just so that ultimately they niii ioee o— just so that ultimately they will face a biological male in a enimming— will face a biological male in a enimming pool-— will face a biological male in a swimming pool. it— will face a biological male in a swimming pool. it seems deeply unioin.— swimming pool. it seems deeply unioin. con— swimming pool. it seems deeply unioin. con i— swimming pool. it seems deeply unfair. can i ask— swimming pool. it seems deeply unfair. can i ask you, though, niin— unfair. can i ask you, though, with british— unfair. can i ask you, though, with british cycling banning iioiogieoi— with british cycling banning biological males from participating in the sport , is participating in the sport, is ine— participating in the sport, is ine iiie— participating in the sport, is the tide beginning to turn on? neon— the tide beginning to turn on? yeah, absolutely— the tide beginning to turn on? yeah, absolutely . " : yeah, absolutely. i mean, world aquatics last year did the right thing. they were the first organisation in seven years to actually ask a single female athlete how they felt about this world rugby did it on safety grounds. world athletics earlier this did it in athletics, this year. did it in athletics, which a fantastic world. which is a fantastic world. cycling's been dragging their feet. british triathlon has done it. has done it, it. british cycling has done it, but still way more but there's still way more sports are still allowing , sports that are still allowing, you know, males to self—identify into women's competition and things like strava and parkrun . things like strava and parkrun. all you actually have to do is

self id, there's no reduction of testosterone. there's no there's no checking, there's so no checking, there's nothing. so women losing their course women are losing their course records and their parkrun records and their parkrun records all over the country at the moment. crazy people are crazy, and why ? why crazy, you know? and why? why wouldn't parkrun just had an extra box , you know, let's have extra box, you know, let's have a transgender box, a trans 100% how difficult would that be? 100. sharon, you're one of my eioniing— 100. sharon, you're one of my sporting heroes.— 100. sharon, you're one of my sporting heroes. you're a noiionoi— sporting heroes. you're a national icon— sporting heroes. you're a national icon and more power to you.— national icon and more power to you. ine— national icon and more power to you. ine noon— national icon and more power to you. me ioon ie— national icon and more power to you. the book is out now. it is eoiiei— you. the book is out now. it is called unfair— you. the book is out now. it is called unfair play— you. the book is out now. it is called unfair play the battle for called unfair play the battle ion women-e— called unfair play the battle for women's sport , co—authored for women's sport, co—authored by cnoig— for women's sport, co—authored by cnoig ioni— for women's sport, co—authored by craig lord and— for women's sport, co—authored by craig lord and sharron i>oviee— by craig lord and sharron davies. thanks- by craig lord and sharron davies. thanks sharron. next up, we goi— davies. thanks sharron. next up, we goi ine— davies. thanks sharron. next up, we goi ine nonene— davies. thanks sharron. next up, we got the papers. see you

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results are. in 7 to 9.2% say they would vote for brexit. only 20.8% would remain . so there you 20.8% would remain. so there you go. that's what i call a landslide. that's a stronger result than the original 1 in 2016. it's time now for the papers with full pundit reaction. let's go . and we kick reaction. let's go. and we kick off with the i paper . let's see off with the i paper. let's see what they're leading with . uk what they're leading with. uk hits by by ozempic shortages for weight loss drug manufacturer confirms supply problems due to unprecedent demand and some type two diabetics cannot get their repeat prescriptions. uk medicines regulator says it stands ready to impose new limits on the popular weight loss jab as pharmacies admit patients are already so suffering. also, house crunch developers are caught hoarding 1 million plots of land. hardly a

surprise as daily express kyiv canng surprise as daily express kyiv caring princes mission to honour diana's memory. compassionate prince william is filled with a steely determination to tackle homelessness in honour of his late mother , ahead of what would late mother, ahead of what would have been diana's 62nd birthday. tomorrow her eldest son will launch projects in numerous locations across the country. also chancellor's deal to ease mortgage pain for millions . of mortgage pain for millions. of course you can. mike porky parry , top left. it says it says heartbreaking. father , top left. it says- heartbreaking. father and , top left. it says— heartbreaking. father and son nno— heartbreaking. father and son nno iieo— heartbreaking. father and son who died hand— heartbreaking. father and son who died hand in hand on sub. non— who died hand in hand on sub. ion in— who died hand in hand on sub. ion in iney— who died hand in hand on sub. how do they know— who died hand in hand on sub. how do they know that- who died hand in hand on sub. i:i:::i 7 how does how do they know that? how does anybody know that?— how do they know that? how does anybody know that? yeah,- how do they know that? how does anybody know that? yeah, i- i:i:::i 317 how does anybody know that? yeah, i mean, iney— anybody know that? yeah, i mean, iney neneni— anybody know that? yeah, i mean, they weren't aware _ anybody know that? yeah, i mean, they weren't aware of the fact inoi— they weren't aware of the fact that imminently_ they weren't aware of the fact that imminently it was going to imnioie— that imminently it was going to imnioie .— that imminently it was going to imnioie . so— that imminently it was going to implode . so it's— that imminently it was going to implode . so it's not as if, oh, implode. so it's not as if, oh, oniy— implode. so it's not as if, oh, oniy goi— implode. so it's not as if, oh, we've only got seconds left. do you— we've only got seconds left. do you eee— we've only got seconds left. do you nnoi— we've only got seconds left. do you nnoi i— we've only got seconds left. do you see what i mean? no. and of inene— you see what i mean? no. and of course there was— you see what i mean? no. and of course there was only five iieonie— course there was only five people in— course there was only five people in that. - course there was only five people in that. they none of inem — people in that. they none of them survived.— people in that. they none of them survived. so i was the 9oiiy— them survived. so i was the any ivnneee— them survived. so i was the daily express news editor for me— daily express news editor for iive yeone — daily express news editor for five years. and— daily express news editor for five years. and i— daily express news editor for five years. and i would be oening— five years. and i would be asking somebody now drawn up the

noni— asking somebody now drawn up the inoni toge— asking somebody now drawn up the inoni ooge nnene— asking somebody now drawn up the front page where did that come mome— front page where did that come inomelmeon— front page where did that come inomelmeon .— front page where did that come from?.mean , do— front page where did that come from?.mean , do you- front page where did that come from? i mean, do you think, michael, there's anything michael, that there's anything unethical about taking your child on a dangerous adventure? well, funny enough , whilst you well, funny enough, whilst you ioing— well, funny enough, whilst you were doing your— well, funny enough, whilst you were doing your last great piece mee— were doing your last great piece inene, ne— were doing your last great piece over there, we had— were doing your last great piece over there, we had a discussion nene— over there, we had a discussion nene oioui— over there, we had a discussion here about nobody— over there, we had a discussion here about nobody seems to have inougni— here about nobody seems to have inougni-ioei— here about nobody seems to have brought-fact that- here about nobody seems to have brought-fact that a- brought up the fact that a ioinen— brought up the fact that a father almost— brought up the fact that a father almost dragged his son inio— father almost dragged his son inio inoi— father almost dragged his son into that craft— father almost dragged his son into that craft because we've ine — into that craft because we've seen the auntie— into that craft because we've seen the auntie this afternoon eoying— seen the auntie this afternoon eoying ne— seen the auntie this afternoon eoying ne no— seen the auntie this afternoon saying he was terrified. he iiin-i— saying he was terrified. he didn't really— saying he was terrified. he didn't really want to go, but it ioinen-e— didn't really want to go, but it was father's day.— didn't really want to go, but it was father's day. so he went to nieoee— was father's day. so he went to nieoee nie— was father's day. so he went to please his father.— was father's day. so he went to please his father. we all know nieionieoiiy— please his father. we all know historically no— please his father. we all know historically no two lineal mement— historically no two lineal members of— historically no two lineal members of the royal family ever get members of the royal family ever gei inio— members of the royal family ever gei inio ine— members of the royal family ever get into the same— members of the royal family ever get into the same helicopter iogeinen. — get into the same helicopter together. yeah,— get into the same helicopter together. yeah, because as if ine— together. yeah, because as if the helicopter— together. yeah, because as if the helicopter goes down, you've run you've rubbed— the helicopter goes down, you've run you've rubbed out two genenoiione— run you've rubbed out two generations of— run you've rubbed out two generations of the family . so generations of the family. so nigniy— generations of the family. so highly irresponsible , but also highly irresponsible, but also veny— highly irresponsible, but also very unsettled— highly irresponsible, but also very unsettled thing to see the ouniie— very unsettled thing to see the ouniie ioioy— very unsettled thing to see the auntie today talk— very unsettled thing to see the auntie today talk about the iennon— auntie today talk about the iennon .— auntie today talk about the terror. this— auntie today talk about the terror. this 19— auntie today talk about the terror. this 19 year old boy ooponeniiy— terror. this 19 year old boy apparently went through before he apparently went through before me oimoei— apparently went through before he almost like— apparently went through before he almost like she had a reason. sne— he almost like she had a reason. she too— he almost like she had a reason. she too o— he almost like she had a reason. she had a reason— he almost like she had a reason. she had a reason to— he almost like she had a reason. she had a reason to say- he almost like she had a reason. she had a reason to say it,- she had a reason to say it, didn't she? she felt strongly about it. i think actually couch it in those terms. think twice

oioui— it in those terms. think twice oioui puiiing— it in those terms. think twice about putting my— it in those terms. think twice about putting my kids- c " think twice about putting my kids on the noon— about putting my kids on the ioei-monee- about putting my kids on the back moped submarine back of my moped as submarine is onoinen—ien-i- another level really, isn't it? neon— another level really, isn't it? yeah exactly. _ another level really, isn't it? yeah exactly. �*fvi�*ec ” another level really, isn't it? yeah exactly. �*fvi�*ec " another level really, isn't it? yeah exactly. " i:i:::i yeah exactly. what's your how do you ride your moped. you arrive ride your moped. well i mean, i'm well what we do i mean, i'm a nine— well what we do i mean, i'm a iiiiie iii— well what we do i mean, i'm a little bit like— well what we do i mean, i'm a little bit like dennis hopper in ioey—nnon- little bit like dennis hopper in easy—know what| little bit like dennis hopper ini easy—know what i easy rider. do you know what i neon— easy rider. do you know what i meone-i— easy rider. do you know what i meone-i eon-i— easy rider. do you know what i mean? i can't quite mean? yeah i can't quite a nomoniie— mean? yeah i can't quite a romantic figure.— mean? yeah i can't quite a romantic figure. no, i've got inie— romantic figure. no, i've got inie iiiiie— romantic figure. no, i've got this little 1— romantic figure. no, i've got this little 1 to— romantic figure. no, i've got this little 1 to 5— romantic figure. no, i've got this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i nove— this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i move io— this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i move io, i— this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i have to, i will— this little 1 to 5 thing, and if i have to, i will drop them off to i have to, i will drop them off io eenooi— i have to, i will drop them off io eenooi on— i have to, i will drop them off to school or something. but i try to school or something. but i iny io— to school or something. but i iny io ovoii— to school or something. but i iny io ovoii ii— to school or something. but i try to avoid it really, because inene— try to avoid it really, because inene-nieny. - try to avoid it really, because there-risky. i- try to avoid it really, because there-risky. i was. try to avoid it really, because there risky. lift“ there is, it's risky. i was on ine— there is, it's risky. i was on ine-oi— there is, it's risky. i was on ine-oi o— there is, it's risky. i was on the of a motorbike once for the back of a motorbike once for work, work purposes. i went the back of a motorbike once for w0ithe work purposes. i went the back of a motorbike once for w0ithe way)rk purposes. i went the back of a motorbike once for w0ithe way from irposes. i went the back of a motorbike once for w0ithe way from london i went the back of a motorbike once for w0ithe way from london to /ent all the way from london to suffolk, but i can actually speak to the guy guy speak to the guy to the guy riding through , through riding the bike through, through headphones, through the through the. the the. i've done that through the helmet. do that as well? helmet. do you do that as well? yeah, yeah, done that. yeah, yeah, i've done that. yeah. great it's a great yeah. it's a great it's a great ining—iil thing to do. yeah. well if youve— thing to do. yeah. well if you've captain- thing to do. yeah. well if you've captain dolan when you're on-s— you've captain dolan when you're on-s-you - you've captain dolan when you're on-s-you neit- on year 1 to 5 are you. well i nnon— on year 1 to 5 are you. well i know-iie— on year 1 to 5 are you. well i know it's not quite as know sadly it's not quite as cool as that. yeah, but listen, i. cool as that. yeah, but listen, .. i— cool as that. yeah, but listen, .. i nouiin-i— cool as that. yeah, but listen, i. i wouldn't mind— f yeah, but listen, i. i wouldn't mind your arms i. iwouldn't mind your arms nnonoei— i. iwouldn't mind your arms wrapped around— i. i wouldn't mind your arms wrapped around me later after the wrapped around me later after ine-ii— wrapped around me later after ine-ii you— wrapped around me later after the-if you want- wrapped around me later after the-if you want .- wrapped around me later after the if you want . and also the show. if you want. and also we go— the show. if you want. and also we can go on a motorbike ride. vou— we can go on a motorbike ride. you-put— we can go on a motorbike ride. you-put o— we can go on a motorbike ride. you-nuio iiog— we can go on a motorbike ride. you-put a dog collar- we can go on a motorbike ride. you can put a dog collar around him and pull him around if you want. you're talking, now want. now you're talking, now you're you can go to

you're talking. you can go to ine— you're talking. you can go to ine eiuie— you're talking. you can go to the clubs together. - ”it; q you can go to the clubs together. " the clubs together. this is geiiing— the clubs together. this is getting disgraceful. you've the clubs together. this is- getting disgraceful. you've got to though, getting disgraceful. you've got to_though, because| to be careful, though, because it to be careful, though, because ii—iel to be careful, though, because ii—ie -l it bangs the engine that is. eei-e— it bangs the engine that is. iei-e ieie— it bangs the engine that is. let's let's have— it bangs the engine that is. let's let's have a look at the 9oiiy— let's let's have a look at the non innon.— let's let's have a look at the daily mirror. is— let's let's have a look at the daily mirror. is that right, dominio— daily mirror. is that right, dominic and— daily mirror. is that right, dominic and keith, there we are, ine— dominic and keith, there we are, ine 9oiiy— dominic and keith, there we are, the daily mirror.— dominic and keith, there we are, the daily mirror. let's have a toot— the daily mirror. let's have a ioon oi— the daily mirror. let's have a look at-doctor- the daily mirror. let's have a look at-doctor is- the daily mirror. let's have a look at doctor is five day look at this. doctor is five day einine— look at this. doctor is five day einine mone— look at this. doctor is five day strike more bad— look at this. doctor is five day strike more bad news, i'm oinoii— strike more bad news, i'm .ggg, ion— strike more bad news, i'm afraid, for patients, medics nomi— afraid, for patients, medics nomp un— afraid, for patients, medics ramp up action— afraid, for patients, medics ramp up action with longest noitoui— ramp up action with longest noinoui in— ramp up action with longest walkout in nhs— ramp up action with longest walkout in nhs history. ramp up action with longest walkout in nhs history . / walkout in nhs history. yeah. i eomemneei— walkout in nhs history. yeah. i sometimes wonder— walkout in nhs history. yeah. i sometimes wonder actually, when the newspaper prints a lie like that , are they actually that, are they actually celebrating the fact that there's going to be a terrible five day problem in the national health service? because as we all know, the daily mirror don't agree with the politics of the present government and it gives the present government a problem. and they're just nigniigniing— and they're just highlighting little highlighting that a little bit of highlighting that a little bit oi-iei-e- highlighting that a little bit of-let's have- highlighting that a little bit. of- let's have l quick of a kicking. let's have a quick ioei— of a kicking. let's have a quick ioei-inoi— of a kicking. let's have a quick last-that daily- of a kicking. let's have a quick last that daily star last look at that daily star neoiiine— last look at that daily star headline-first- last look at that daily star headline first of all, headline. and first of all, iney-ne— headline. and first of all, they're generously offering a £2 bet they're generously offering a £2 iei oi— they're generously offering a £2 iei oi iioyoi— they're generously offering a £2 bet at royal ascot— they're generously offering a £2 bet at royal ascot with william niii. — bet at royal ascot with william niii. oinen— bet at royal ascot with william hill. other betting— bet at royal ascot with william hill. i: bet at royal ascot with william hill. 002? i: e111 hill. other betting shops are available and the invasion of the killer hornets . this is

the killer hornets. this is actually the killer hornets. this is oeiuoiiy veny— this is actually very worrying because inene-e— actually very worrying because inene-e neoiiy— actually very worrying because there's really not— actually very worrying because there's really not enough to now— there's really not enough to nonny oioui— there's really not enough to worry about in— there's really not enough to worry about in the world, say ine— worry about in the world, say ine eion— worry about in the world, say ine eion o— worry about in the world, say the star, a horde— worry about in the world, say the star, a horde of irascible nonneie— the star, a horde of irascible hornets that— the star, a horde of irascible hornets that can— the star, a horde of irascible hornets that can kill people niin— hornets that can kill people niin inein— hornets that can kill people with their stings are set to invoie— with their stings are set to invade britain— with their stings are set to invade britain and could spell iieoeien— invade britain and could spell iieoeienloun— invade britain and could spell disaster our much loved, disaster for our much loved, genie— disaster for our much loved, gentle natured— disaster for our much loved, gentle natured honeybees. those are gentle natured honeybees. those youn— gentle natured honeybees. those youn inoni— gentle natured honeybees. those are your front pages . i think are your front pages. i think goi— are your front pages. i think we've got more— are your front pages. i think we've got more on the way, but ieie— we've got more on the way, but iei-e-nuniii— we've got more on the way, but let's pundit reaction let's get full pundit reaction inom — let's get full pundit reaction now from emma— let's get full pundit reaction now from emma burnell aidan iiogee— now from emma burnell aidan iiogee oni— now from emma burnell aidan magee and mike— now from emma burnell aidan magee and mike parry. and let's ieie— magee and mike parry. and let's iei-e nonen— magee and mike parry. and let's let's power through this. first of let's power through this. first oi gt,— let's power through this. first oi gt, ine— let's power through this. first oi gt, ine i— let's power through this. first of all, the i newspaper, emma, vou— of all, the i newspaper, emma, you nii— of all, the i newspaper, emma, you nii ny— of all, the i newspaper, emma, you hit by shortages of a weight ioee— you hit by shortages of a weight ioee inug— you hit by shortages of a weight loss drug called— you hit by shortages of a weight loss drug called ozempic , which loss drug called ozempic, which is loss drug called ozempic, which ie pnoving— loss drug called ozempic, which ie proving veny— loss drug called ozempic, which is proving very popular. yeah i i— is proving very popular. yeah i i ion-i— is proving very popular. yeah i mean, i don't know— is proving very popular. yeah i mean, i don't know the- is proving very popular. yeah i mean, i don't know the causes of this. i've just seen the headline, but it is proving very popular and that may be part of the problem. there's been recent reports that it's going to be prescribed much more widely than just people with type 2 diabetes. yeah great. if it works , but you've got to have works, but you've got to have the supply and you've got to have the supply chain and that seems to be an ongoing problem. i don't think this is the first

time we've heard concerns about levels of supply of this drug. well, i'm a type two diabetic, emma, so if see me stagger emma, so if you see me stagger and fall before the end of the show tonight, it could be because a victim of this because i'm a victim of this ozempic problem , although ozempic problem, although i don't actually take ozempic. i don't actually take ozempic. i don't know where it comes from. i-ve— don't know where it comes from. in oniy— don't know where it comes from. in oniy nenno— don't know where it comes from. i've only heard of— don't know where it comes from. i've only heard of it.— don't know where it comes from. i've only heard of it. i'm- don't know where it comes from. i've only heard of it. i'm a- i've only heard of it. i'm a type one diabetic, but i mean, i just take statins, right? revealing my medical history there on live tv. mean, there on live tv. but i mean, you're fine figure of a man. you're a fine figure of a man. thank need is thank you. you don't need is inoee— thank you. you don't need is mne-neon.- thank you. you don't need is those _yeah, well,- thank you. you don't need is- those _yeah, well, maybe those mpeg? yeah, well, maybe i'll it's faddish. i'll take, but it's faddish. but things quite but these things are quite ioiiien— but these things are quite. faddish,_they? faddish, though, aren't they? nioui— faddish, though, aren't they? nioui i— faddish, though, aren't they? about i mean,— faddish, though, aren't they? about i mean, 15, 20 years ago. inene-e— about i mean, 15, 20 years ago. inene-e one— about i mean, 15, 20 years ago. there's one called— about i mean, 15, 20 years ago. there's one called olestra. you. remember—used remember that? yeah. they used to remember that? yeah. they used io—io- remember that? yeah. they used io—io ioee- remember that? yeah. they used io—io ioee iil to put it. they used to lace it in-oni— to put it. they used to lace it in-oni ininge- to put it. they used to lace it in-and things like. to put it. they used to lace it in and things like that in the food and things like that ione—noy. — in the food and things like that ione—noy. ii- in the food and things like that take way. it wasn't take a different way. it wasn't evoeiiy— take a different way. it wasn't evoeiiy o— take a different way. it wasn't exactly a direct— take a different way. it wasn't exactly a direct supplement that move— exactly a direct supplement that moenoi-neeee- exactly a direct supplement that make-process any- exactly a direct supplement that make process any oil. make you not process any oil. neon—ii- make you not process any oil. neon—ii goeel yeah, yeah, yeah. it goes straight it. straight through. i mean it. i say this politely as say this as politely as possible. is is it not worth possible. is it is it not worth eoneiiening— possible. is it is it not worthj considering—diet considering just a better diet oni— considering just a better diet oniliii— considering just a better diet andlbitlexercise?- considering just a better diet and bit exercise? 0” itizi. and a bit of exercise? of course it and a bit of exercise? of course ii in — and a bit of exercise? of course ii in neon vou— and a bit of exercise? of course it is. yeah you know— and a bit of exercise? 0” itizi. c “45?" you know that and a bit of exercise? 0” itizi. c / you know that i have it is. yeah you know that i have a it is. yeah you know that i have o einong— it is. yeah you know that i have o einong nieiony— it is. yeah you know that i have a strong history in— c “45?" you know that i have a strong history in this. i used to a strong history in this. i used iomo— a strong history in this. i used i9l25- sione— a strong history in this. i used to.25. stone lost- a strong history in this. i used to 25. stone lost amazing to be 25. stone lost an amazing omoum— to be 25. stone lost an amazing amount-weight.— to be 25. stone lost an amazing amount weight. i've lost a amount of weight. i've lost a lot amount of weight. i've lost a ioi oi— amount of weight. i've lost a ioi oi neigni. — amount of weight. i've lost a lot of weight. i've— amount of weight. i've lost a lot of weight. i've got i mean, as lot of weight. i've got i mean, e-vienene— lot of weight. i've got i mean,

as-viewers have- lot of weight. i've got i mean, as viewers have already as your viewers have already ioio— as your viewers have already told-checked- as your viewers have already told-checked in- as your viewers have already told checked in the break. told me, i checked in the break. i-ve—go.- told me, i checked in the break. i-ve—go. nol i've got some way to go. no you-ne— i've got some way to go. no you're amazing.— i've got some way to go. no you're amazing. look you're amazing. you look omozing. — you're amazing. you look omozing. -nel you're amazing. you look amazing. _no, all. amazing. no, no, no, not at all. they amazing. no, no, no, not at all. iney toot— amazing. no, no, no, not at all. they look fabulous— amazing. no, no, no, not at all. they look fabulous .— amazing. \in:::n they look fabulous . what? had they look fabulous. what? i had woe-eioni— they look fabulous. what? i had woe-eioni. iie— they look fabulous. what? i had was-start. it's not- they look fabulous. what? i had was start. it's not the was a head start. it's not the oniy— was a head start. it's not the oniy ining— was a head start. it's not the oniy ining you— was a head start. it's not the only thing you get. so if this neme— only thing you get. so if this neine iieonie— only thing you get. so if this helps people get into the right noiiie — helps people get into the right habits. right?— helps people get into the right habits. right? that's great. but youve— habits. right? that's great. but you-ve goi— habits. right? that's great. but you-ve goi io. — habits. right? that's great. but you've got to. you've got to . you've got to. you've got to. so you've got to. you've got to. so youne— you've got to. you've got to. so you-ne eoying— you've got to. you've got to. so you're saying don't. - you've got to. you've got to. so you're saying don't. don't do like 10 or 20 years on this stuff? no and apparently it only neoiiy— stuff? no and apparently it only neoiiy nonne— stuff? no and apparently it only really works for— stuff? no and apparently it only really works for the— 7 \i:::i and apparently it only really works for the first two yeone— really works for the first two yeone onynoy. — really works for the first two years anyway. right. but in inoee—eonl those two years, you can oieoiuieiy— those two years, you can absolutely change your lifestyle and absolutely change your lifestyle omo-monie— absolutely change your lifestyle and-habits and— absolutely change your lifestyle and habits and just get and your habits and just get inio— and your habits and just get inio ine— and your habits and just get into the things— and your habits and just get into the things that what i did, i into the things that what i did, i not— into the things that what i did, i walk everywhere. i walk ieineen— i walk everywhere. i walk ieineen 9— i walk everywhere. i walk between 5 and- i walk everywhere. i walk between 5 and 10 miles a day. ani— between 5 and 10 miles a day. and its— between 5 and 10 miles a day. and its-oi— between 5 and 10 miles a day. | and it's-of encouragement, and it's kind of encouragement, i imagine. it just taking i imagine. is it just taking a supplement, this whole point? it's saving head it's like a life saving head eioni— it's like a life saving head start-yeah. - it's like a life saving head start. yeah. china i it's like a life saving head- start.-yeah. great. i got start. yeah yeah. great. i got rid start. yeah yeah. great. i got nii oi— start. yeah yeah. great. i got no oi my— start. yeah yeah. great. i got rid of my diabetes,— start. yeah yeah. china i got rid of my diabetes, too, through einiei— rid of my diabetes, too, through einiei .— rid of my diabetes, too, through einiei , nigii— rid of my diabetes, too, through strict, rigid discipline of my iiieeiyie. — strict, rigid discipline of my lifestyle. stuck— strict, rigid discipline of my lifestyle. stuck to vodka and gin. — lifestyle. stuck to vodka and gin. dion-i— lifestyle. stuck to vodka and gin. niin-i you— lifestyle. stuck to vodka and gin. didn't you know what i did was on the gin and the vodka. i took sugar free tonics with the way— took sugar free tonics with the noy io — took sugar free tonics with the noy io go — took sugar free tonics with the noy io go . — took sugar free tonics with the noy io go . neon.— took sugar free tonics with the way to go . yeah. is- took sugar free tonics with the way to go . “45?" ” q7

way to go. yeah. is that right? i've got. yes, you've— way to go. yeah. is that right? i've got. yes, you've got- way to go. “45?" ” q7 i've got. yes, you've got to cut eugon— i've got. yes, you've got to cut eugon oui— i've got. yes, you've got to cut eugon oui oi— i've got. yes, you've got to cut sugar out of your— i've got. yes, you've got to cut sugar out of your diet. �*fvi�*ac sugar out of your diet. what i viii— sugar out of your diet. what i niii ieii— sugar out of your diet. what i niii ieii you — sugar out of your diet. what i will tell you is that you lose a lot of weight quite quickly, which i did. yeah. you don't guiie— which i did. yeah. you don't quite realise— which i did. yeah. you don't quite realise the— it i: i: yeah. you don't quite realise the difference in non— quite realise the difference in non muon— quite realise the difference in how much alcohol affects you, nignie— how much alcohol affects you, nignie so,— how much alcohol affects you, right? so, like _ how much alcohol affects you, right? so, like the _ how much alcohol affects you, right? so, like the drink that onevioueiy— right? so, like the drink that previously didn't touch the eiiee— previously didn't touch the eiiee viii— previously didn't touch the sides will knock you for six. so you— sides will knock you for six. so you geiiing — sides will knock you for six. so you getting better— sides will knock you for six. so you getting better value from inoyo— you getting better value from inoyo inon— you getting better value from inoyo inon ii — you getting better value from inaya than i? ' l3 “45?" inaya than i? absolutely. yeah. there's much cheaper. how did you apart there's much cheaper. how did you ononi nnom— there's much cheaper. how did you apart from great— there's much cheaper. how did you apart from great diet- “a.“it f how did you apart from great diet and ioie— you apart from great diet and ioie oi— you apart from great diet and lots of exercise— you apart from great diet and lots of exercise i— you apart from great diet and lots of exercise i had an onenoiion— lots of exercise i had an operation you- lots of exercise i had an operation you do. “an: operation you do. i had ionioinio— operation you do. i had bariatric surgery. what is that? i gastric sleeve surgery, i had gastric sleeve surgery, which when which meant that in 2013, when i had , they reduced my stomach had it, they reduced my stomach most people's stomach is the size of cantaloupe melon. size of a cantaloupe melon. okay? mine down to okay? they reduced mine down to the of lemon. that the size of a lemon. now, that doesn't last because the stomachs are muscles. so as you use how long? how long are we talking? how long does it last? ine— talking? how long does it last? ine eiieeie— talking? how long does it last? the effects of— talking? how long does it last? the effects of it— talking? how long does it last? the effects of it for— "q7 how long does it last? the effects of it for me , the effects of it for me, iney-ne— the effects of it for me, they're still— the effects of it for me, they're still there to an extent . i— they're still there to an extent . i eon-i— they're still there to an extent . i can't overeat— they're still there to an extent . i can't overeat the- they're still there to an extent . i can't overeat the way that i did when i got so heavy as i did . but i. i lost seven stone in a year and then i've lost a bit more since then . and then

more since then. and then i started to put weight a little bit back on and i just thought, apps are freaking lutely. not i am not going back there. no way. that's when i started . ijoined that's when i started. ijoined slimming world, which i love, andifs slimming world, which i love, and it's still old fashioned willpower as well, isn't it? absolutely. what gave me, absolutely. but what it gave me, because was at, because where i was at, i couldn't walk 100m without intense discussion . yeah. i was intense discussion. yeah. i was always hungry and never full. so however much i ate and i was eating horrific amounts, i got myself into a terrible, terrible state. nobody no one's to blame but me. i get that . but what it but me. i get that. but what it gave me was a great new lease of life and head start. and it was up to me then to seize that opportunity and i mean, i won't say run with it because running is still not my thing, but walk very fast with it. but walking. walking is terrific for you. i iove— walking is terrific for you. i love walking. _ walking is terrific for you. i love walking. i've just contributed- love walking. i've just - contributed _that julia contributed to a book that julia nnoiiuny— contributed to a book that julia mommy-onoy,- contributed to a book that julia bradbury okay, about bradbury is writing. okay, about voting.— bradbury is writing. okay, about noiiing. iuiio— bradbury is writing. okay, about walking. julia knows had a ioiiie— walking. julia knows had a battle with— walking. julia knows had a battle with cancer and all that , oni— battle with cancer and all that , oni i—

battle with cancer and all that , oni i noi— battle with cancer and all that , oni i not o— battle with cancer and all that , and i had a battle with my neon— , and i had a battle with my neoni .— , and i had a battle with my neoni . vie— , and i had a battle with my heart . we both— , and i had a battle with my heart . we both think that heart. we both think that voting— heart. we both think that noiiing iii— heart. we both think that walking did an awful lot to get us walking did an awful lot to get ue ioo. — walking did an awful lot to get ue ioo. iie— walking did an awful lot to get us 100. me and— walking did an awful lot to get us 100. me and my- walking did an awful lot to get us 100. a�*i: ”i273: gin us 100. me and my best friend go on a walking holiday every year. now, if you told me that ten years ago, i would have just i've done 16,267 steps. very good. i've done 16,267 steps. very good . there's still- i've done 16,267 steps. very good . there's still an- : it 20 i�* very good . there's still an hour and good. there's still an hour and 20 good. there's still an hour and 99 minuiee— good. there's still an hour and 20 minutes left.— good. there's still an hour and 20 minutes left. and how far is inoie— 20 minutes left. and how far is inoie — 20 minutes left. and how far is inoie non— 20 minutes left. and how far is that? how far? how- 20 minutes left. and how far is that? 777 how far is that? that? how far? how far is that? inoi— that? how far? how far is that? no ie— that? how far? how far is that? that is 11.71km._ that? how far? how far is that? that is 11.71km. so— that? 777 how far is that? that is 11.71km. so what's that nougniy— that is 11.71km. so what's that nougniy eeven— that is 11.71km. so what's that roughly seven miles. when i onnivei— roughly seven miles. when i onnivei oi— roughly seven miles. when i arrived at the— roughly seven miles. when i arrived at the studio, i'd done exoeiiy— arrived at the studio, i'd done evoeiiy eio— arrived at the studio, i'd done exactly six miles— arrived at the studio, i'd done exactly six miles today and i'll be voting— exactly six miles today and i'll be noiiing noni— exactly six miles today and i'll be walking part of the way home. so be walking part of the way home. so iniiiioni— be walking part of the way home. so brilliant. yeah.— be walking part of the way home. so brilliant. yeah. i've— be walking part of the way home. so brilliant. yeah. i've got,- so brilliant. yeah. i've got, i've got i've another i've got some. i've got another 1000 steps to get in tonight. don't go emma burnell. we don't go emma burnell. if we even—ingeinenl ever go on holiday together, i'll taking a cab. i'll be on i'll be taking a cab. i'll be on the back of your moped. yeah, it might be. behind looking might be. might behind looking like fighting over me . like a dog fighting over me. let's a look at more papers let's have a look at more papers coming— let's have a look at more papers coming in— let's have a look at more papers coming in thick— let's have a look at more papers coming in thick and— let's have a look at more papers coming in thick and fast. and i inimi— coming in thick and fast. and i ininn neve— coming in thick and fast. and i think we've got— coming in thick and fast. and i think we've got the times. next. eei-e— think we've got the times. next. iei-e—oi— think we've got the times. next. iei-e—oi nnoi- think we've got the times. next. let's—at what they. let's have a look at what they ieoi— let's have a look at what they ieoi nnn— let's have a look at what they ieoi niin. i— let's have a look at what they lead with. i think. _ let's have a look at what they lead with. i think. that lead with. i think. is that nignie—you- lead with. i think. is that| nignie—you goi, lead with. i think. is that- right?_you got, keith? right? what have you got, keith? eive— right? what have you got, keith? give—youn— right? what have you got, keith? give—your worst.- give me give me your worst. onoy.— give me give me your worst. onoy-ie— give me give me your worst. onoy-_ie on- give me give me your worst. okay. _is. oh oh,- give me give me your worst. okay. is. oh oh, there okay. there it is. oh oh, there you— okay. there it is. oh oh, there you go. — okay. there it is. oh oh, there you go. ioveiy— okay. there it is. oh oh, there you go. ioveiy. n— okay. there it is. oh oh, there you go. lovely. a lovely piece by ieinen— you go. lovely. a lovely piece by esther rantzen. don't waste a toy. —

by esther rantzen. don't waste a toy. vou— by esther rantzen. don't waste a toy. vou oe— by esther rantzen. don't waste a day. you are given— by esther rantzen. don't waste a day. you are given writing about her day. you are given writing about men tung— day. you are given writing about her lung cancer— day. you are given writing about her lung cancer diagnosis. day. you are given writing about her lung cancer diagnosis . we do her lung cancer diagnosis. we do nien— her lung cancer diagnosis. we do nien nen— her lung cancer diagnosis. we do nien nen neit— her lung cancer diagnosis. we do wish her well. she's a friend of the wish her well. she's a friend of ine enon— wish her well. she's a friend of ine enon in— wish her well. she's a friend of ine enon in o— wish her well. she's a friend of the show in a remarkable true noiionoi— the show in a remarkable true national icon.— the show in a remarkable true national icon. also pay blow for miiiione— national icon. also pay blow for miiiione oi— national icon. also pay blow for millions of public— national icon. also pay blow for millions of public sector nonenie— millions of public sector workers . millions of millions of public sector workers. millions of public eio— workers. millions of public sector workers— workers. millions of public sector workers face having a pay nieee— sector workers face having a pay oi— sector workers face having a pay oi go.— sector workers face having a pay rises of 6% blocked— sector workers face having a pay rises of 6% blocked by the govennmeni— rises of 6% blocked by the government amid mounting concerns-would- government amid mounting concerns would fuel concerns they would fuel inflation. _ concerns they would fuel inflation. see,- concerns they would fuel inflation. see, i have a question about this, mark, because months ago , when because a few months ago, when the strikes were kicking off the line, you constantly got from the government was well pay rises are set by the independent pay rises are set by the independent pay body and now they're talking about overruling it. so what i want know, mark, they want to know, mark, is were they lying they lying now lying then or are they lying now because they can't true? because they both can't be true? well, think were well, i think they were lying inen— well, i think they were lying then-raises- well, i think they were lying then.-raises a- well, i think they were lying then. raises a question. then. but it raises a question. i then. but it raises a question. i meon— then. but it raises a question. i mean, we see it— then. but it raises a question. i mean, we see it the i mean, we see it with the union— i mean, we see it with the junior doctors,— i mean, we see it with the junior doctors, don't we? in in oi— junior doctors, don't we? in in oi ine— junior doctors, don't we? in in one of the other— junior doctors, don't we? in in one of the other papers, mike ionny. — one of the other papers, mike ionny. inoi— one of the other papers, mike ionny. no no— one of the other papers, mike parry. that was the daily mirror 9oeione — parry. that was the daily mirror 9oeione iive— parry. that was the daily mirror doctors. five strike. yeah doctors. five day strike. yeah suneiy— doctors. five day strike. yeah suneiy non— doctors. five day strike. yeah surely now with— doctors. five day strike. yeah surely now with this crippling iniioiion— surely now with this crippling inflation that— surely now with this crippling inflation that we're having inouiie— inflation that we're having trouble getting on top of, euneiy— trouble getting on top of, euneiy ine— trouble getting on top of, surely the moral case for the eininee— surely the moral case for the einineelnon— surely the moral case for the strikes now gone? “45?" strikes is now gone? yeah, the mono— strikes is now gone? yeah, the mini-oi— strikes is now gone? yeah, the moral of strike is moral case of the strike is gone, a government's got to gone, but a government's got to rule. if a government thinks

rule. so if a government thinks they've to overrule they've got to overrule something that's to be in something that's going to be in injurious economy, then injurious to the economy, then strong politicians have got to say , we're not doing it. but say no, we're not doing it. but political decision. but they were-behind- political decision. but they were-behind this- political decision. but they| were-behind this pay were hiding behind this pay ioiy— were hiding behind this pay review body. yeah, that's true. ani— review body. yeah, that's true. nni inoi-e— review body. yeah, that's true. and that's what— review body. yeah, that's true. and that's what i'm saying. iney-ne— and that's what i'm saying. iney-ne-iying- and that's what i'm saying. they're-lying-orl and that's what i'm saying. - they're-lying-or they they're either lying now or they were—sustained . were lying then. sustained i inimi— were lying then. sustained i mini-nigni- were lying then. sustained ii think-right.-can't think you are right. they can't have ways. but they gain have it both ways. but they gain ooniiienee— have it both ways. but they gain confidence-gain— confidence. they gain confidence. - confidence. they gain confidence. mark, these, you nnon— confidence. mark, these, you know, _workersl know, public sector workers in all-disciplines- all kinds of disciplines in ouniie— all kinds of disciplines in public-getting. public life are getting confident— public life are getting confident see confident because they see a govennmeni— confident because they see a government weak and government that's weak and immin— government that's weak and - insipid._government insipid. and when a government is-insipidv_ insipid. and when a government is-insipid, when- insipid. and when a government is-insipid, when it- insipid. and when a government is insipid, when it has is weak and insipid, when it has a is weak and insipid, when it has o moioniiy— is weak and insipid, when it has o moioniiy oi— is weak and insipid, when it has a majority of between 70 and 80, inoi-e— a majority of between 70 and 80, inoi-e neoiiy— a majority of between 70 and 80, that's really bad— a majority of between 70 and 80, that's really bad news for this oouniny. — that's really bad news for this oouniny. neon.— that's really bad news for this country. yeah,-a- that's really bad news for this country. yeah, - a .old i country. yeah, it's a big old headache, isn't where shall headache, isn't it, where shall we we've got the we go next? we've got the telegraph . yeah. households were telegraph. yeah. households were spared £120 net zero. levy says shapps measures to fund hydrogen industry won't be tacked onto energy bills. val's minister yeah, but you could have predicted this, couldn't you, a long time ago? i mean, it's the ining.— long time ago? i mean, it's the ining. iie— long time ago? i mean, it's the one thing. it's an— long time ago? i mean, it's the one thing. it's an open- ciiti’flg c 37 i mean, it's the one thing. it's an open goal. if ine— one thing. it's an open goal. if the government— one thing. it's an open goal. if the government hadn't cancelled it the government hadn't cancelled ii ieoue— the government hadn't cancelled

it because basically it's, it's all it because basically it's, it's oii oioui— it because basically it's, it's all about green— it because basically it's, it's all about green levies, isn't it? all about green levies, isn't iii iie— all about green levies, isn't iii no oii— all about green levies, isn't it? it's all about,- all about green levies, isn't it? it's all about, you know, iooiing— it? it's all about, you know, iooiing un— it? it's all about, you know, loading up your,— it? it's all about, you know, loading up your, your energy iiiie— loading up your, your energy iiiie youn— loading up your, your energy bills, your electricity and your gas— bills, your electricity and your goe niin— bills, your electricity and your goe niin yei— bills, your electricity and your gas with yet another green levy. so gas with yet another green levy. so i— gas with yet another green levy. so i ion-i— gas with yet another green levy. so i don't think— gas with yet another green levy. so i don't think it's particularly brave thing for the govennmeni— particularly brave thing for the government to— particularly brave thing for the government to do something or noiiing— government to do something or holding something. "c3 holding back something. they none—iie- were holding back, isn't it? it's yeah. yeah, it's a headline. yeah. yeah, yeon— it's a headline. yeah. yeah, yeon yeon— it's a headline. yeah. yeah, yeon yeon. — it's a headline. yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. okay.- it's a headline. yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. okay. well, look, speaking after speaking of headline news, after the got the daily the break, we've got the daily mail, has a fascinating mail, which has a fascinating headline. my pundits will headline. plus, my pundits will be headline be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. plus, here's a question for you based by the way, on recent research about right wing women being more attractive. what do you think in terms of political allegiance ? yes. which group is allegiance? yes. which group is more attractive, righties or lefties ? we've got the answer lefties? we've got the answer for you. we've been conducting a mark dolan tonight people's poll, the result of which is next. plus, more papers. see you into .

welcome back to the show. i hope you're enjoying the program at the new start time of 9:00. so it's very simple . 9 to 11 every it's very simple. 9 to 11 every friday, saturday and sunday. wonderful to have your company . wonderful to have your company. we've papers . keith and we've got more papers. keith and dominic, where should we go next? have the daily mail next? let's have the daily mail and boris announces director keith. well, of course he does dominate the front page because he's a new column that the he's got a new column that the mail have paid extensively for. lefties . but those brave lefties sneer. but those brave souls that titanic sub were souls on that titanic sub were heroes pushing the frontiers of human knowledge. also, mortgage crisis hunt eases pain. chancellor secures new charter from banks to help thousands of people who are struggling to pay soaring bills . do you think, soaring bills. do you think, nonn— soaring bills. do you think, none inoi— soaring bills. do you think, mark, that when— soaring bills. do you think, mark, that when ted- g do you think, mark, that when ted verity, the eiiion— mark, that when ted verity, the eiiion oi— mark, that when ted verity, the eiiion oi ine— mark, that when ted verity, the editor of the daily— mark, that when ted verity, the editor of the daily mail, signed a editor of the daily mail, signed o ieoi— editor of the daily mail, signed o ieoi io— editor of the daily mail, signed o ieoi io give— editor of the daily mail, signed a deal to give boris ten grand a neei— a deal to give boris ten grand a neei io— a deal to give boris ten grand a neei io nniie— a deal to give boris ten grand a week to write a— a deal to give boris ten grand a week to write a column, that inei— week to write a column, that first column _ week to write a column, that first column was— week to write a column, that first column was about a lump of neeee— first column was about a lump of neeee in— first column was about a lump of neeee in ine— first column was about a lump of cheese in the fridge— first column was about a lump of cheese in the fridge . his second cheese in the fridge. his second oiumn— cheese in the fridge. his second oiunnn ie— cheese in the fridge. his second column is about— cheese in the fridge. his second column is about a— cheese in the fridge. his second column is about a story that evenyioiy— column is about a story that everybody else— column is about a story that everybody else in the world has been— everybody else in the world has been ioining— everybody else in the world has been talking about all week. nnen— been talking about all week. wnen oe— been talking about all week. wnen ne— been talking about all week. when are we going to get the, you—

when are we going to get the, you-ine— when are we going to get the, you-ine eninny- when are we going to get the, you-the skinny in- when are we going to get the, you the skinny in the you know, the skinny in the eoniniene— you know, the skinny in the sandwich?-you- you know, the skinny in the sandwich? you want your sandwich? yeah, you want your money— sandwich? yeah, you want your money iooii— sandwich? yeah, you want your money ioene — sandwich? yeah, you want your money ioene i— sandwich? yeah, you want your money back? " sandwich? yeah, you want your money back? i mean, that's what the best part of half £1 million a year. it's £1 million. nice nonn— a year. it's £1 million. nice worklyou_ a year. it's £1 million. nice worklyou-ii- i a year. it's £1 million. nice worklyou-it. i. a year. it's £1 million. nice- worklyou-it. i mean, work if you can get it. i mean, we were at the news of the world. i was the news world world. i was at the news world between, what, oh seven and 2011. were paying columnists 2011. we were paying columnists on 5 or a on sport then probably 5 or 6 a week. so, mean, yes, we week. yeah. so, i mean, yes, we were resource paper, were aware of resource paper, but 1010 about but i don't think 1010 is about what expect the going what i would expect the going rate for a former prime minister. a for minister. yeah > but for a for a view— minister. yeah > but for a for a on o eiony— minister. yeah > but for a for a view on a story that's- ii " “45?" > but for a for a view on a story that's been the iiggeei— view on a story that's been the iiggeei eiony— view on a story that's been the iiggeei eiony in— view on a story that's been the biggest story in world in biggest story in the world in ine— biggest story in the world in ine-eounie— biggest story in the world in the-couple of- biggest story in the world in the couple of years, the first couple of years, eenioiniy— the first couple of years, certainly-hear- the first couple of years,- certainly-hear-you're certainly i do hear what you're eoying,— certainly i do hear what you're eoying—nen- saying, but boris is the new 9iono. — saying, but boris is the new 9iono. .nui— saying, but boris is the new diana. .put his- saying, but boris is the new diana. .put his face. saying, but boris is the new diana. " f lift“ diana. you put his face on a newspaper and people buy it. yeah, listen, let's get yeah, maybe. listen, let's get to others we to a couple of others before we now text poll. what now get to our text poll. what have we got next? the guardian, a quick look at the guardian, if we army of dangerous we can. sunak army of dangerous vapes flooding into uk and exclusive ukraine offensive exclusive ukraine key offensive still that's it. still to come. okay that's it. those are your front pages. now listen, let me tell you, that was a great story in the papers. according to a new study, conservative are more conservative women are more attractive than left wing women. researchers have used eye to

predict a person's political views based on a headshot to which the women with more attractive features are right wing. so our conservative women more attractive than lefties . as more attractive than lefties. as you know, mark dolan tonight is aggressively neutral. so i put it to you, the great british pubucin it to you, the great british public in a mark dolan tonight people's we asked you people's poll, we asked you which political group more which political group are more attractive lefties or righties , attractive lefties or righties, and we got the results. the results are in. look at that comprehensive of think. mark. it's very unfair. i'm far- cci“ ’“

political affiliation are more hot than others ? well, i soccer hot than others? well, i soccer has hot than others? well, i soccer noe teen— hot than others? well, i soccer noe teen in— hot than others? well, i soccer has been in the— hot than others? well, i soccer has been in the news- s?“ 7 well, i soccer has been in the news this sci“ 7 well, i soccer has been in the news this week, noen-i— has been in the news this week, noen-i ene?— has been in the news this week, hasn't she? you _ has been in the news this week, hasn't she? you know, she's been veny— hasn't she? you know, she's been very controversial, _ very controversial, self—declared communist, self—declared— self—declared communist, yes. nui— self—declared communist, yes. oui iive— self—declared communist, yes. but i've worked— self—declared communist, yes. but i've worked with ash very oiinoeiive. — but i've worked with ash very oiinoeiive. i— but i've worked with ash very attractive. i mean, you know, a nugeiy— attractive. i mean, you know, a hugely attractive _ attractive. i mean, you know, a hugely attractive lady and a lot of hugely attractive lady and a lot oi ioiiee — hugely attractive lady and a lot oi ioiiee i— hugely attractive lady and a lot of ladies. i work— hugely attractive lady and a lot of ladies. i work with who are non— of ladies. i work with who are inom-ieii— of ladies. i work with who are from-left wing— of ladies. i work with who are from-left wing of- of ladies. i work with who are from left wing of politics from the left wing of politics are from the left wing of politics veny— from the left wing of politics are very attractive ladies. but iive— are very attractive ladies. but he goi— are very attractive ladies. but iive goi gneoi— are very attractive ladies. but i've got great stories to tell you.— i've got great stories to tell you. wnen— i've got great stories to tell you. when worked on the daily you. when i worked on the daily ivnneee—o- express, i worked with a photographer- express, i worked with a photographer terry photographer called terry 9ieney— photographer called terry nieney. oni— photographer called terry disney, and he was called mickey iiouee — disney, and he was called mickey iiouee neon— disney, and he was called mickey iiouee neon .— disney, and he was called mickey mouse. yeah , he— disney, and he was called mickey mouse. “415i?" : yeah. he mouse. yeah, he does. yeah. he eoiiei— mouse. yeah, he does. yeah. he eoiiei un— mouse. yeah, he does. yeah. he was called up to— mouse. “415i?" : yeah. he was called up to finchley to ioie— was called up to finchley to ioie o— was called up to finchley to take a photograph of the new ieoien— take a photograph of the new leader opposition, leader of the opposition, nongonei— leader of the opposition, margaret okay leader of the opposition,- margaret-okay at her margaret thatcher. okay at her nome— margaret thatcher. okay at her nome un— margaret thatcher. okay at her nome un inene. — margaret thatcher. okay at her home up there. and he swears inoi— home up there. and he swears inoi inne— home up there. and he swears that mrs. thatcher tried to eeuie— that mrs. thatcher tried to seduce him.— that mrs. thatcher tried to seduce him. she said, mr disney, un— seduce him. she said, mr disney, un io— seduce him. she said, mr disney, un io my— seduce him. she said, mr disney, come up to my bedroom. i've got a come up to my bedroom. i've got o iooi— come up to my bedroom. i've got o iooi oi— come up to my bedroom. i've got a load of outfits— come up to my bedroom. i've got a load of outfits .— come up to my bedroom. i've got a load of outfits . and terry a load of outfits. and terry eoye— a load of outfits. and terry eoye i— a load of outfits. and terry eoye i inimi— a load of outfits. and terry says, i think they're both dead. i says, i think they're both dead. i nnon— says, i think they're both dead. i know nine — says, i think they're both dead. i know mrs. thatcher is there. he ie — i know mrs. thatcher is there. he ie neon.— i know mrs. thatcher is there. he is. yeah. and— i know mrs. thatcher is there. he is. yeah. and and he says she noi— he is. yeah. and and he says she not no— he is. yeah. and and he says she not no nnoiiem— he is. yeah. and and he says she had no problem whatsoever with ioning— had no problem whatsoever with ioning on— had no problem whatsoever with taking an outfit— had no problem whatsoever with taking an outfit off and putting onoinen— taking an outfit off and putting onoinen one— taking an outfit off and putting another one on. _ taking an outfit off and putting another one on. so she was the uiiinoie— another one on. so she was the uiiimoie nigni— another one on. so she was the ultimate right wing politician woman, wasn't— ultimate right wing politician woman, wasn't she? maybe she was

a woman, wasn't she? maybe she was o noiiie. — woman, wasn't she? maybe she was o noiiie. inene— woman, wasn't she? maybe she was a hottie. there was— woman, wasn't she? maybe she was a hottie. there was an— woman, wasn't she? maybe she was a hottie. “cc ci’“ iif�*i�* woman, wasn't she? maybe she was a hottie. “cc ci’“ iifi�*i�* a hottie. there was an mp who had an obsession with her ankles. we were talking the ankles. we were talking in the break there is a certain type of tory who really, really fancy margaret thatcher and yeah, they like the bossy matriarch, don't they? the bossy matriarch, sort of they? the bossy matriarch, sort oi noneniui— they? the bossy matriarch, sort of powerful women. _ c’“i:i37’ the bossy matriarch, sort of powerful women. yeah, the note— of powerful women. yeah, the nnoie ining— of powerful women. yeah, the nnoie ining . — of powerful women. yeah, the whole thing . “415i?" of powerful women. yeah, the whole thing . / of powerful women. yeah, the whole thing . “415i?" whole thing. yeah. um, look, ultimately, if the first thing you ask in a bar when someone that you find attractive chats about politics, well, turn off . about politics, well, turn off. i mean, even i don't do that . i mean, even i don't do that. and i'm a political obsessive. would you date a tory? i've been out would you date a tory? i've been oui viii— would you date a tory? i've been out with tories. yeah,— would you date a tory? i've been out with tories. yeah, i've. - out with tories. yeah, i've. you must have been. is that like beer goggles? five, 5—2, three. muni— beer goggles? five, 5—2, three. inunn ine— beer goggles? five, 5—2, three. drunk the whole— beer goggles? five, 5—2, three. drunk the whole time- :g:g:g7 five, 5—2, three. drunk the whole time we were going— drunk the whole time we were going oui. — drunk the whole time we were going out. political- drunk the whole time we were going out. c cci going out. political beer goggles. you wake up going out. c cci :g:g:g you wake up in the goggles. you wake up in the monning. — goggles. you wake up in the monning. on.— goggles. you wake up in the morning. oh, my- :g:g:g you wake up in the morning. 0“ (icy: :g:g:g you wake up in the morning. 0“ i’cictic c; :g:g:g you wake up in the morning. i’cictic morning. oh, my god, he's a brexit. beer argues that- morning. icii:::ic fitcx c beer argues that you brexit. beer argues that you inoi— brexit. beer argues that you no you— brexit. beer argues that you no you on— brexit. beer argues that you that you can share- fitcx c beer argues that you that you can share that are ouieiie— that you can share that are ouieiie oi— that you can share that are outside of party— that you can share that are outside of party politics. yeah. all outside of party politics. yeah. nii nigni. — outside of party politics. yeah. all right. well,— outside of party politics. yeah. all right. well, i'm- outside of party politics. yeah. all right. �*fviizgc cgcic i'm all right. well, i'm glad. i'm gioi— all right. well, i'm glad. i'm gioi you— all right. well, i'm glad. i'm gioi you eoio— all right. well, i'm glad. i'm glad you said that. _ all right. �*fviizgc cgcic i'm glad you said that. i've never noi— glad you said that. i've never noi o— glad you said that. i've never had a girlfriend.— glad you said that. i've never had a girlfriend. i think iunning— had a girlfriend. i think turning down my wish to pay the time— turning down my wish to pay the iinneniiii. — turning down my wish to pay the dinner bill. yeah,— turning down my wish to pay the dinner bill. yeah, no,- turning down my wish to pay the dinner bill. “415?" cci“ dinner bill. yeah, no, i can imagine. yeah, that's.- dinner bill. / cci“ “cicg yeah, that's. that's imagine. yeah, that's. that's non— imagine. yeah, that's. that's non iney— imagine. yeah, that's. that's non iney on— imagine. yeah, that's. that's how they can be. - “cicg yeah, that's. that's

how they can be. ci3 how they can be. very capitalism. absolutely yeah. a lot of people are turned off by noiiiiee— lot of people are turned off by noiiiiee ii— lot of people are turned off by politics. it doesn't— lot of people are turned off by politics. it doesn't really come inio— politics. it doesn't really come inioli— politics. it doesn't really come inioli inimi— politics. it doesn't really come into-i think if— politics. it doesn't really come into i think if somebody is, into it. i think if somebody is, you— into it. i think if somebody is, you-ie— into it. i think if somebody is, you-is unkind,- into it. i think if somebody is, you is unkind, unpleasant you know, is unkind, unpleasant ,-eeii— you know, is unkind, unpleasant ,-eeii eeii— you know, is unkind, unpleasant , self self righteous, , but yeah, self self righteous, nnoieven— , but yeah, self self righteous, whatever-things- , but yeah, self self righteous, whatever things you whatever other bad things you eoneeouee—ii can think of, it's not because of can think of, it's not because oi inein— can think of, it's not because of their politics. _ can think of, it's not because of their politics. no just experiences— of their politics. no just experiences had. yeah, experiences you've had. yeah, absolutely. and there's absolutely. and i think there's absolutely. and i think there's o-neonie— absolutely. and i think there's o-neonie nno— absolutely. and i think there's a-people who were- £3 and i think there's a people who were brought a lot of people who were brought inio— into politics by the wrong motivation _ into politics by the wrong motivation .— into politics by the wrong motivation . yes. and a lot of motivation. yes. and a lot of iieonie— motivation. yes. and a lot of neonie nno— motivation. yes. and a lot of people who were— motivation. yes. and a lot of people who were brought into noiiiiee— people who were brought into noiiiieeline— people who were brought into politics-the right- politics by the right motivations think politics by the right- motivations _think that's motivations and i think that's inue— motivations and i think that's true-spectrum.- motivations and i think that's true spectrum. yeah, true across the spectrum. yeah, i true across the spectrum. yeah, i moy— true across the spectrum. yeah, i moy eomnieieiy— true across the spectrum. yeah, i may completely disagree with inein—iuil their their prescriptions, but inein—one. - their their prescriptions, but inein—one. il their their prescriptions, but. their—are. i agree. their motivations are. i agree. inene-e— their motivations are. i agree. monee-on— their motivations are. i agree. there's on both sides there's shysters on both sides now , can we talk about your now, can we talk about your nominations for headline hero and back page zero. these are the winners losers the the winners and losers of the day. your eye? day. who's caught your eye? who's hero today? emma who's your hero today? emma burnell lewis, who burnell martin lewis, who i thought gave a really, really good read and very comprehend lviv explanation of why interest rates and putting all the pressure onto others was actually not going to make that much difference because they're actually a much significantly smaller portion of the population, 20, about . yeah, population, 20, about. yeah, exactly. so i've just-

$70 yeah, exactly. so i've just been so imnneeeei— exactly. so i've just been so imnneeeei ny— exactly. so i've just been so impressed by his- exactly. so i've just been so impressed by his calm and really he impressed by his calm and really ne inei— impressed by his calm and really ne iuei gneoi— impressed by his calm and really he just great consumer focus ieiiniieiy— he just great consumer focus definitely money saving expert a gneoi— definitely money saving expert a gneoi meno— definitely money saving expert a gneoi neno io— definitely money saving expert a great hero to me— definitely money saving expert a great hero to me as well . ' cc“ great hero to me as well. aidan your— great hero to me as well. aidan youn neoiiine— great hero to me as well. aidan your headline hero it's a gentleman who may not be overly familiar to our viewers, but i hope he is. but it's a guy eoiiei— hope he is. but it's a guy called roddy— but it's a guy called roddy forsyth who five iive— called roddy forsyth who five live commentator , reporter on live commentator, reporter on seoiiien— live commentator, reporter on scottish football— live commentator, reporter on scottish football for over 40 yeoe— scottish football for over 40 yeoe inei— scottish football for over 40 yeoe iuei oui— scottish football for over 40 years, just out of— scottish football for over 40 years, just out of the blue this neei,— years, just out of the blue this neei, ne— years, just out of the blue this week, he announced that he was ieoving— week, he announced that he was ieoving niin— week, he announced that he was leaving with the— week, he announced that he was leaving with the season being at an leaving with the season being at on eno— leaving with the season being at on eni. ne— leaving with the season being at an end. he said— leaving with the season being at an end. he said that he's attributed— an end. he said that he's attributed to— an end. he said that he's attributed to parkinson's very eoiiy. — attributed to parkinson's very eoiiy. non— attributed to parkinson's very sadly. now he's— attributed to parkinson's very sadly. now he's a voice throughout— sadly. now he's a voice throughout my youth, throughout my-yeone— throughout my youth, throughout my years, somebody my adult years, somebody i never mei— my adult years, somebody i never met. sad because i never oeiuoiiy— met. sad because i never actually worked north of the ionien— actually worked north of the border-football. - border covering football. but it's border covering football. but ii-e—un— border covering football. but ii-e—un inene. - border covering football. but it's—up there. you it's so delicate up there. you nove— it's so delicate up there. you noveleinine— it's so delicate up there. you have .strike such- it's so delicate up there. you have strike such balancing have to strike such a balancing act have to strike such a balancing oei nnen— have to strike such a balancing act when you're— have to strike such a balancing act when you're covering not inei— act when you're covering not nuei-oni— act when you're covering not just-and rangers- act when you're covering not. just-and rangers-two just celtic and rangers and two iooiioii— just celtic and rangers and two iooiioii-going— just celtic and rangers and two football going each football clubs going at each oinen— football clubs going at each omen-ine- football clubs going at each other, the sectarian other, but also the sectarian ongie— other, but also the sectarian ongie. ani— other, but also the sectarian ongie. one i— other, but also the sectarian angle. and i never of all the yeone— angle. and i never of all the years listening— angle. and i never of all the years listening to him, could years listening to him, i could neven—ne- years listening to him, i could never he supported. never guess who he supported. someone— never guess who he supported. - someone—twitter someone probably come on twitter now someone probably come on twitter non-obvioueiy— someone probably come on twitter now obviously support now says he's obviously support so—and—so. i never detected it. i so—and—so. i never detected it. i-noe— so—and—so. i never detected it. i-waslfantastic- i thought it was a fantastic voice— i thought it was a fantastic oni— i thought it was a fantastic voice and just— i thought it was a fantastic voice and just the end of his voice and just at the end of his of voice and just at the end of his oi nie— voice and just at the end of his oi nie eneeen— voice and just at the end of his of his speech this— voice and just at the end of his of his speech this week and five

iive— of his speech this week and five iive-nim — of his speech this week and five iive-nim io— live allowed him to give a iiiiie— live allowed him to give a little soliloquy_ live allowed him to give a little soliloquy at the end of his little soliloquy at the end of nie-iuei— little soliloquy at the end of his-just said,- little soliloquy at the end of his just said, look, his time. he just said, look, you— his time. he just said, look, you-ii— his time. he just said, look, you-ii you— his time. he just said, look,| you-if you-support you know, if you can support a ionnineon-e— you know, if you can support a parkinson's charity, nominate one in particular particularly. nui— one in particular particularly. oui—ii- but he said get behind it ieoue— but he said get behind it because-we'rel but he said get behind it. because _we're not but he said get behind it- because _we're not that because we're not we're not that far because we're not we're not that ion—o— because we're not we're not that ion—o eunelinie- far off finding a cure to this to far off finding a cure to this io inie— far off finding a cure to this to this illness. _ far off finding a cure to this to this illness. and i just it inei— to this illness. and i just it iuei-nii— to this illness. and i just it iuei-nii me— to this illness. and i just it just-hit me a- to this illness. and i just it just hit me a truly great just just hit me a truly great broadcaster. _ just just hit me a truly great broadcaster. cc“ just just hit me a truly great broadcaster. look, we can can broadcaster. look, we can we can you tyler as you can mention martin tyler as well. ijust you can mention martin tyler as well. i just thought because of the well. i just thought because of ine iiineee— well. i just thought because of the illness element,— i just thought because of the illness element, thought the illness element, i thought ioioy— the illness element, i thought iioiiy-goi— the illness element, i thought iioiiy-goi-noi- the illness element, i thought roddy got nod for roddy forsyth got the nod for _wat,_ roddy forsyth got the nod for me. _well, well- roddy forsyth got the nod for me. _well, well said. roddy forsyth got the nod for. me. _well, well said. both me. well, well, well said. both both porky both true legends. mike porky parry, hero today. parry, your headline hero today. do icant parry, your headline hero today. do i can't the do you know i can't find the name my headline here? i'm name of my headline here? i'm sorry. my team will have it. yeah, actually,-but- sorry. my team will have it. yeah, actually,-but i'll. yeah, actually, yeah, but i'll ieii— yeah, actually, yeah, but i'll ieii-ii— yeah, actually, yeah, but i'll ieii-ii ie- yeah, actually, yeah, but i'll tell-it is.-it'sl tell you who it is. it's. it's on— tell you who it is. it's. it's on eiieniy— tell you who it is. it's. it's an elderly couple. garner. an elderly couple. julia garner. neon— an elderly couple. julia garner. yeah-beautiful.- yeah it's. it's beautiful. noneeiiy. — yeah it's. it's beautiful.- honestly. _couple yeah it's. it's beautiful.- honestly._couple and honestly. an elderly couple and the honestly. an elderly couple and ine eiieniy— honestly. an elderly couple and the elderly gentleman was down ine— the elderly gentleman was down ine noni— the elderly gentleman was down near the pond near to where he ined— near the pond near to where he neg, oni— near the pond near to where he neg, oni ne— near the pond near to where he lived, and he found a little iueniing— lived, and he found a little duckling which— lived, and he found a little duckling which had been eenonoiei— duckling which had been separated-its- duckling which had been separated its parents. separated from its parents. onoy. — separated from its parents. onoy. so— separated from its parents. onoy. so ne— separated from its parents. okay. so he picked it up. it was a okay. so he picked it up. it was o iiiiie— okay. so he picked it up. it was a little bundle— okay. so he picked it up. it was a little bundle of— okay. so he picked it up. it was a little bundle of fur, and he veni— a little bundle of fur, and he went around— a little bundle of fur, and he went around and— a little bundle of fur, and he went around and looked for the nonenie— went around and looked for the parents. couldn't— went around and looked for the parents. couldn't find, took it nome— parents. couldn't find, took it nome, oni— parents. couldn't find, took it home, and they— parents. couldn't find, took it home, and they raised it and noieei— home, and they raised it and noieei ii— home, and they raised it and raised it for— home, and they raised it and raised it for a— home, and they raised it and raised it for a year their raised it for a year in their nome— raised it for a year in their nome. oiien— raised it for a year in their home. after year. and the duck home. after a year. and the duck einong— home. after a year. and the duck was strong enough— home. after a year. and the duck was strong enough and the was strong enough to go and the inen—

was strong enough to go and the nuei—ani— was strong enough to go and the nuei—ani-gueeei duck flew away. and then guess nnoie— duck flew away. and then guess nnoie nine— duck flew away. and then guess what? nine months later , the what? nine months later, the inen— what? nine months later, the duck ome— what? nine months later, the duck came back— what? nine months later, the duck came back with 11 ducklings of duck came back with 11 ducklings oi nen— duck came back with 11 ducklings oi nen onn— duck came back with 11 ducklings of her own marching up the inivenoy— of her own marching up the inivenoy oi— of her own marching up the driveway of their house. and iney— driveway of their house. and iney non— driveway of their house. and iney oii— driveway of their house. and they now all live in a pond iney-ve— they now all live in a pond they've built— they now all live in a pond they've built in— they now all live in a pond they've built in the garden . they've built in the garden. oiien— they've built in the garden. niien o— they've built in the garden. after a beautiful story, vegetarian _ after a beautiful story, vegetarian earlier, i was so ienniiiei. — vegetarian earlier, i was so terrified. that— vegetarian earlier, i was so terrified. icgi:::i “cg terrified. that story was going to end differently . the duck is to end differently. the duck is making me hungry. yeah. yeah nice oyster sauce. but listen , nice oyster sauce. but listen, just basically your nominations for back page zeros in a sentence , if you could. emma sentence, if you could. emma shaun sentence, if you could. emma snoun noiiey— sentence, if you could. emma snoun noiiey .— sentence, if you could. emma shaun bailey. he— c �*7 c: emma shaun bailey. he shouldn't be a iono— shaun bailey. he shouldn't be a tone. inoi-e— shaun bailey. he shouldn't be a lord. that's all— shaun bailey. he shouldn't be a lord. that's all there is to it. ne— lord. that's all there is to it. he shouldn't— lord. that's all there is to it. he shouldn't be— lord. that's all there is to it. he shouldn't be a lockdown rules nnevioue — he shouldn't be a lockdown rules nnevioue ne— he shouldn't be a lockdown rules previous. he lost— he shouldn't be a lockdown rules previous. he lost an— he shouldn't be a lockdown rules previous. c; ci“ ct“ previous. he lost an election. that was previous. he lost an election. inoi my— previous. he lost an election. that was my biggest- previous. c; ci“ c“ that was my biggest achievement. onoy.— that was my biggest achievement. onoy. non— that was my biggest achievement. onoy. non oioui— that was my biggest achievement. okay, how about your— that was my biggest achievement. okay, how about your same- that was my biggest achievement. been leuqcbeedejsnmt 777 how about your same as. okay, how about your same as. same as a month ago, alastair okay, how about your same as. same as a month ago, alastair comnieii— comnieii— same as a month ago, alastair campbell different campbell worked for different same as a month ago, alastair campbell different campbell worked for different reasons. last night he was on reasons. last night he was on gueeiion— reasons. last night he was on question time. _ reasons. last night he was on question time. the express gueeiion— reasons. last night he was on question time. _ reasons. last night he was on question time. the express eniiieieei— question time. the express criticised him _ question time. the express criticised him and said was eniiieieei— question time. the express criticised him _ question time. the express criticised him and said was criticised him and said he was ionei— criticised him and said he was ionei— criticised him and said he was ioei-oi— criticised him and said he was bored-of town— criticised him and said he was ioei-oi— criticised him and said he was bored-of town— criticised him and said he was bored of town and he went on criticised him and said he was bored of town and he went on bored out of town and he went on ioei— bored out of town and he went on ioei nigni— bored out of town and he went on ioei nigni on— bored out of town and he went on last night or 230— bored out of town and he went on bored out of town and he went on ioei— bored out of town and he went on ioei nigni— bored out of town and he went on ioei nigni on— bored out of town and he went on last night or 230— bored out of town and he went on last night or 230 this morning he last night or 230 this morning last night or 230 this morning ne-on— last night or 230 this morning ne-on i-ve— last night or 230 this morning ne-on i-ve goi- last night or 230 this morning he oh, i've got the he says, oh, i've got the nnoieven— he says, oh, i've got the whatever metric for whatever the metric is for meoeunng— whatever the metric is for measuring applause, got measuring the applause, i got mone—onyioiy- measuring the applause, i got more anybody else. more claps than anybody else. i neon-oii— more claps than anybody else. i meonioii in— more claps than anybody else. i mean,.all in-top- more claps than anybody else. i mean, all in top infants mean, we all in the top infants or mean, we all in the top infants on nnoie— mean, we all in the top infants

or what?-exactly- mean, we all in the top infants or what? exactly right . or what? yeah, exactly right. i-ve— or what? yeah, exactly right. i've _alastair- or what? yeah, exactly right. i've-alastair for- or what? yeah, exactly right. i've-alastair for 35- or what? yeah, exactly right. i i've-alastair for 35 years i've known alastair for 35 years and he's been like that every day, right? is mine is day, right? mine is mine is sleepy. joe biden. because sleepy. joe biden. because sleepy joe biden has turned down ben wallace, is the defence ben wallace, who is the defence minister in this country to be the next nato boss. great nomination, great- “cyxc n: o great nomination, great pundits . nomination, great pundits. inonne— nomination, great pundits. inonne io— nomination, great pundits. inonne io my— nomination, great pundits. thanks to my brilliant guests oni— thanks to my brilliant guests oni moei— thanks to my brilliant guests and most importantly to you for you— and most importantly to you for youn eomnony. — and most importantly to you for your company. we're back tomorrow at— your company. we're back tomorrow at nine. headliners is

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