tv Neil Oliver - Live GB News June 24, 2023 6:00pm-7:00pm BST
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how the hospitality about how the hospitality industry is still struggling . no industry is still struggling. no surprises there . and we'll also surprises there. and we'll also be hearing about some rare and very beautiful maps detailing the defeat of the spanish armada, which are set to go on pubuc armada, which are set to go on public display for the very first time. all of that, plus plenty of chat with my brilliant and lovely panellists, tanya buxton . but first, an update on buxton. but first, an update on the latest news from rory smith .thank the latest news from rory smith . thank you very much, neal. russian paramilitary group wagner is continuing advances towards moscow. the group's leader,— towards moscow. the group's leader, yevgeny_ : f the group's leader, yevgeny prigozhin, accused— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, accused iss— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, accused iss russia's military chiefs— accused iss russia's military chicfc cf— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying to— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying to justify the in— chiefs of lying to justify the war in ukraine.— chiefs of lying to justify the war in ukraine. he claims russian— war in ukraine. he claims russian helicopters have already cpcncd— russian helicopters have already opened fire— russian helicopters have already opened fire cc— russian helicopters have already opened fire on them as they make their— opened fire on them as they make their way— opened fire on them as they make their way towards— opened fire on them as they make their way towards the capital. moscow's mayor— their way towards the capital. moscow's mayor says a counter—terrorism regime has been— counter—terrorism regime has been declared— counter—terrorism regime has been declared in— counter—terrorism regime has been declared in the city. admitting— been declared in the city. admitting the _ been declared in the city. admitting the situation there is
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difficult— admitting the situation there is difficult .— admitting the situation there is difficult , the _ admitting the situation there is difficult , the uk— admitting the situation there is difficult , the uk government has difficult, the uk government has failed— difficult, the uk government has icicd an— difficult, the uk government has hailed an emergency cobra meeting— hailed an emergency cobra mcccing and— hailed an emergency cobra meeting and the prime minister is in— meeting and the prime minister is in couch— meeting and the prime minister is in touch with— meeting and the prime minister is in touch with allies as presidenc— is in touch with allies as president putin accuses prigozhin— president putin accuses prigozhin of— president putin accuses prigozhin of treason and armed mutiny— prigozhin of treason and armed muuuu cf— prigozhin of treason and armed muuuy cf anv— prigozhin of treason and armed mutiny of any internal turmoil is u— mutiny of any internal turmoil is u mucu— mutiny of any internal turmoil is a mortal threat— mutiny of any internal turmoil is a mortal threat to our statehood,— is a mortal threat to our statehood, to— is a mortal threat to our statehood, to us as a nation. this— statehood, to us as a nation. this is— statehood, to us as a nation. iiis is c— statehood, to us as a nation. this is a blow— statehood, to us as a nation. this is a blow to— statehood, to us as a nation. this is a blow to russia,- statehood, to us as a nation. this is a blow to russia, to our people , our actions to protect people, our actions to protect the homeland from such a threat will be harsh. all those who deliberately took the path of betrayal , prepared deliberately took the path of betrayal, prepared armed betrayal, who prepared an armed mutiny, who took the path of blackmail and terrorist methods , inevitable , will suffer an inevitable punishment , , will suffer an inevitable punishment, will answer both to the law and to our people . the law and to our people. well, former uk ambassador to russia,— well, former uk ambassador to icussiu sic— well, former uk ambassador to russia, sir tony— well, former uk ambassador to russia, sir tony brenton told gb ucus— russia, sir tony brenton told gb ucus uiui— russia, sir tony brenton told gb news what could— russia, sir tony brenton told gb news what could be a possible cuccmci uc-s— news what could be a possible outcome. he's not— news what could be a possible outcome. he's not got that many iciccs. — outcome. he's not got that many iciccs. uc-s— outcome. he's not got that many forces. us gui— outcome. he's not got that many forces. git» o outcome. he's not got that many forces. g:::i o forces. he's got perhaps 10 or 20,000 men, but they are battle hardened. they have been effective, as i've said, against in ukraine. prigozhin himself has a lot of rich eminence, at
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least in right wing circles in russia. so there will be people who will be wishing him well in this project . i frankly suspect this project. i frankly suspect he's not going to make it. and there are already of him there are already stories of him being but this is being attacked. but this is could be the beginning of a civil war in russia. and indeed, if putin's fall . well, we spoke if putin's fall. well, we spoke to if putin's fall. well, we spoke ic u— if putin's fall. well, we spoke ic u icussiuu— �*" " well, we spoke to a russian journalist, alexei vici— to a russian journalist, alexei iicii .— to a russian journalist, alexei iicii , who-s— to a russian journalist, alexei weir , who's in— to a russian journalist, alexei weir , who's in red square in weir, who's in red square in ccuiiui— weir, who's in red square in central moscow. _ weir, who's in red square in central moscow. he told us how pccpic— central moscow. he told us how pccpic iiicic— central moscow. he told us how people there feel— central moscow. he told us how people there feel about the siiuuiicu. — people there feel about the situation. there- people there feel about the situation. “iii; people there feel about the situation. “iii; etc. situation. there is no panic, but as you said, the country terrorist operation regime has been declared. so there is extra law enforcement on the streets of moscow . and it's an of moscow. and it's an atmosphere of intense anticipation. i would say there is no panic, but it's pretty tense in the russian capital right now . in other news this right now. in other news this evening, a safety investigation is being carried out on the ship that launched the titan's submersible into the ocean . if submersible into the ocean. if you're watching on television ,
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you're watching on television, vou— you're watching on television, ucu cun— you're watching on television, you can now see live pictures of suici— you can now see live pictures of sum iciu-s— you can now see live pictures of saint john's harbour. that's where— saint john's harbour. that's where cic— saint john's harbour. that's where the polar— saint john's harbour. that's where the polar prince arrived cuiiici— where the polar prince arrived cuiiici cucu— where the polar prince arrived earlier today .— where the polar prince arrived earlier today . police and safety earlier today. police and safety iuvcsiiguicis— earlier today. police and safety investigators are— earlier today. police and safety investigators are currently on scarci— investigators are currently on board. iiuc— investigators are currently on board. five people were killed in board. five people were killed iu cic— board. five people were killed in the incident— board. five people were killed in the incident .— board. five people were killed in the incident . the first in the incident. the first iiiuisici— in the incident. the first minister of— in the incident. the first minister of scotland says the neu— minister of scotland says the next westminster election should be used— next westminster election should be used us— next westminster election should ic used as u— next westminster election should be used as a manifesto for an iuicpcuicui— be used as a manifesto for an independent scotland . speaking independent scotland. speaking at independent scotland. speaking ui cu— independent scotland. speaking ui cu sui— independent scotland. speaking at an snp independence convention— at an snp independence convention in— at an snp independence convention in dundee. humza vcusui— convention in dundee. humza vcusui suici— convention in dundee. humza yousaf said that— convention in dundee. humza yousaf said that the route to scciiisii— yousaf said that the route to scottish independence is through the scottish independence is through use iuuiui— scottish independence is through the lawful and— scottish independence is through the lawful and democratic pcccss— the lawful and democratic pcccss . uc— the lawful and democratic process . he added that if the process. he added that if the sui— process. he added that if the sun wins— process. he added that if the snp wins that— process. he added that if the snp wins that election, it will seek— snp wins that election, it will seek negotiations with the uk gcwcnnncni— seek negotiations with the uk government to _ seek negotiations with the uk government to give democratic ciicci— government to give democratic ciicci ic— government to give democratic effect to scotland _ government to give democratic effect to scotland becoming independent.— effect to scotland becoming independent. it— effect to scotland becoming independent. it a major water company— independent. it a major water company .— independent. it a major water company . is— independent. it a major water company , is blaming more people company, is blaming more people working— company, is blaming more people working inn — company, is blaming more people working from home— company, is blaming more people working from home after the cowo— working from home after the covid pandemic— working from home after the covid pandemic for a new ncscpipc— covid pandemic for a new ncscpipc nun.— covid pandemic for a new hosepipe ban. south east water, wnicn— hosepipe ban. south east water, wnicn suppiics— hosepipe ban. south east water, which supplies more than 2 niiiicn— which supplies more than 2 million homes— which supplies more than 2 million homes and businesses , million homes and businesses, wiii— million homes and businesses, wiii inncsc— million homes and businesses, will impose the— million homes and businesses, will impose the first hosepipe
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nun— will impose the first hosepipe nun ci— will impose the first hosepipe sun of inc— will impose the first hosepipe ban of the summer from monday, uiicciing— ban of the summer from monday, affecting households across kent and affecting households across kent uni suss— affecting households across kent and suss .— affecting households across kent and sussex , with— affecting households across kent and sussex , with the company's and sussex, with the company's cnici— and sussex, with the company's chief executive— and sussex, with the company's chief executive also blamed low nuiniuii— chief executive also blamed low nuiniuii us— chief executive also blamed low rainfall as well— chief executive also blamed low rainfall as well as— chief executive also blamed low rainfall as well as recent spell of rainfall as well as recent spell ci noi— rainfall as well as recent spell of hot weather— rainfall as well as recent spell of hot weather leading to a spike— of hot weather leading to a spike in— of hot weather leading to a spike in demand for drinking wucni — spike in demand for drinking wucni inc— spike in demand for drinking water. the prime minister has paid— water. the prime minister has paid wiiuic— water. the prime minister has paid tribute to— water. the prime minister has paid tribute to the phenomenal nnccisicn— paid tribute to the phenomenal nnccisicn unci— paid tribute to the phenomenal precision and professionalism of nniisn— precision and professionalism of nniiisn incons— precision and professionalism of british troops as— precision and professionalism of british troops as events are new— british troops as events are new ucncss— british troops as events are held across the _ british troops as events are held across the uk to mark armed icccs— held across the uk to mark armed icccs unw— held across the uk to mark armed icccs nuw .— held across the uk to mark armed icccs nuw . inc— held across the uk to mark armed forces day . the king also forces day. the king also inunkci— forces day. the king also thanked military personnel for the thanked military personnel for in innnncnsc— thanked military personnel for the immense and dedicated contribution— the immense and dedicated contribution of— the immense and dedicated contribution of the british niiiiuw— contribution of the british niiiiuw .— contribution of the british military , both _ contribution of the british military , both at home and military, both at home and overseas . he— military, both at home and overseas . he drew on his own overseas. he drew on his own cinc— overseas. he drew on his own inns in— overseas. he drew on his own inns in inc— overseas. he drew on his own time in the military, saying he ncccgnisci— time in the military, saying he recognised the— time in the military, saying he recognised the deep pride scwicc— recognised the deep pride service personnel take in their duty.— service personnel take in their duty. iconic— service personnel take in their duty. people in— service personnel take in their duty. people in manchester told us wnui— duty. people in manchester told us wnuc iciuw— duty. people in manchester told us what today means to them. one— us what today means to them. one ct— us what today means to them. one of chess— us what today means to them. one of these things— us what today means to them. one of these things that- us what today means to them. one of these things that should be recognised, the army should be recognised, the army should be recognised, the army should be recognised that veterans should be recognised. there's you know, you go to america in the record. the sort of the record. i hear the sort of like brushed under carpet like brushed under the carpet and wrong. it's show my and it's all wrong. it's show my sunncn— and it's all wrong. it's show my sunncn sci— and it's all wrong. it's show my support for-veterans-
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and it's all wrong. it's show my support for-veterans and- m: l g it's show my support for veterans and the support for the veterans and the int-unci— support for the veterans and the injured veterans— support for the veterans and the injured veterans and the cadets wnc— injured veterans and the cadets wnc ncnciuiiw— injured veterans and the cadets who hopefully and they're our future— who hopefully and they're our fuiunc uii— who hopefully and they're our future all being— who hopefully and they're our future all being well she ncsnccis— future all being well she respects like _ future all being well she respects like that you know like cciicugucs— respects like that you know like cciicugucs in— respects like that you know like colleagues in that— respects like that you know like colleagues in that who aren't newc— colleagues in that who aren't news today.— colleagues in that who aren't here today, who— colleagues in that who aren't here today, who would like to be news.— here today, who would like to be news. nuc— here today, who would like to be news. but sci— here today, who would like to be here. but for the _ here today, who would like to be here. but for the guys who are sewing— here. but for the guys who are sewing nw— here. but for the guys who are serving now and— here. but for the guys who are serving now and the girls, you knew.— serving now and the girls, you know so.— serving now and the girls, you know so. ween.— serving now and the girls, you know. so, yeah, we still need cur—ani- know. so, yeah, we still need cun—ani fen- know. so, yeah, we still needi our—and for just our armed forces. and for just being— our armed forces. and for just being-ci— our armed forces. and for just being-of that,— our armed forces. and for just being of that, you know, being part of that, you know, its— being part of that, you know, is were— being part of that, you know, it's we're proud— being part of that, you know, it's we're proud of tv , online it's we're proud of tv, online dunn — it's we're proud of tv, online dunn cutic— it's we're proud of tv, online dab+ radio and— it's we're proud of tv, online dab+ radio and on tunein. “ dab+ radio and on tunein. this is en— dab+ radio and on tunein. this is en news— dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato.— dab+ radio and on tunein. this is gb news nato. back to . is gb news nato. back to. neil any government one that has set aside any notion of accountability to the people, any credible pretence of caring about the people in favour of serving the markets, banks and unelected, unaccountable transnational interests can and surely will tell the people lies about things those people can neither see nor feel. they can
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lie to the people— neither see nor feel. they can lie to the people about- they can lie to the people about a war in a lie to the people about a war in u inni— lie to the people about a war in u iuni inn— lie to the people about a war in a land far away,— lie to the people about a war in a land far away, a— lie to the people about a war in a land far away, a land most people— a land far away, a land most people wcuii— a land far away, a land most people would have struggled to point— people would have struggled to ncini cui— people would have struggled to pcini cui en— people would have struggled to point out on u— people would have struggled to point out on a map in the days before— point out on a map in the days before inci— point out on a map in the days before that war— point out on a map in the days before that war started. they ceii— before that war started. they can tell people— before that war started. they can tell people the world's ciinuie — can tell people the world's ciinuie is— can tell people the world's climate is changing and that it's climate is changing and that its uii— climate is changing and that it's all their— climate is changing and that it's all their fault on account of ine— it's all their fault on account of we cuis— it's all their fault on account of the cars they— it's all their fault on account of the cars they drive and the way— of the cars they drive and the wuw-cnein- of the cars they drive and the way -their homes. of the cars they drive and the way their homes and way they heat their homes and need— way they heat their homes and feed -families_ way they heat their homes and feed -families ,- way they heat their homes and feed families , they can feed their families, they can ceii—ieuiwl feed their families, they can. tell—deadly new tell those people a deadly new disease— tell those people a deadly new disease-in— tell those people a deadly new disease-in the- tell those people a deadly new disease in the world disease is loose in the world because— disease is loose in the world iecuuselun— disease is loose in the world because an unlikely because of an unlikely knee neniien— because of an unlikely kneej trembler_and because of an unlikely knee. trembler_and an trembler between a bat and an unieuien— trembler between a bat and an unieuienlu— trembler between a bat and an anteater a chinese wet anteater in a chinese wet newes— anteater in a chinese wet market,-that- anteater in a chinese wet market, that millions of market, and that millions of people— market, and that millions of neenie wiii— market, and that millions of people will die— market, and that millions of people will die unless they stay snui— people will die unless they stay snui-nenes— people will die unless they stay shut-homes, stop- shut in their homes, stop cunning— shut in their homes, stop earning money to pay their iiiis— earning money to pay their bills, isolate— earning money to pay their bills, isolate themselves from incin— bills, isolate themselves from inein-eni— bills, isolate themselves from their- and their- bills, isolate themselves from their and their loved their lives and their loved. enes—nnwsicei ones, sacrifice their physical neeiin— ones, sacrifice their physical. health _well—being ones, sacrifice their physical- health_well—being and health and mental well—being and that health and mental well—being and ineilinein— health and mental well—being and that-their children— health and mental well—being and that their children and that of their children and submit— that of their children and- submit—injections that of their children and- submit_injections of submit to multiple injections of an submit to multiple injections of en enneneniiw— submit to multiple injections of an apparently brand new medical nneiuci— an apparently brand new medical product,lmedical_ an apparently brand new medical product, medical product that product, a medical product that win— product, a medical product that wiii iusi— product, a medical product that will just coincidentally, of course , make— will just coincidentally, of course , make billions pounds, course, make billions of pounds, euros , dollars— course, make billions of pounds, euros , dollars yuan for euros, dollars and yuan for a neninui— euros, dollars and yuan for a neninui ei— euros, dollars and yuan for a handful of other— euros, dollars and yuan for a handful of other people who are uineeiw— handful of other people who are already billionaires as a shameless— already billionaires as a shameless corrupt already billionaires as a- shameless-corrupt government shameless and corrupt government can shameless and corrupt government eni— shameless and corrupt government uni suneiw— shameless and corrupt government can and surely will— shameless and corrupt government can and surely will do all of inni— can and surely will do all of we ieii— can and surely will do all of that tell lies— can and surely will do all of that tell lies like— can and surely will do all of that tell lies like those and win— that tell lies like those and win enneneni— that tell lies like those and with apparent impunity .7 because with apparent impunity? because unen— with apparent impunity? because eiien eii— with apparent impunity? because eiien eii new— with apparent impunity? because after all, how can— with apparent impunity? because
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after all, how can trusting neenie— after all, how can trusting neenie argue— after all, how can trusting people argue with any of it when the people argue with any of it when we eniw— people argue with any of it when ine only images— people argue with any of it when the only images and information inew— the only images and information inew receive— the only images and information they receive about— the only images and information they receive about war are they receive about the war are nnewiiei— they receive about the war are provided by— they receive about the war are provided by that— they receive about the war are provided by that government? wnen— provided by that government? wnen ine— provided by that government? when the proof— provided by that government? when the proof the climate cnenne— when the proof the climate cnenne is— when the proof the climate change is caused by their cars eni— change is caused by their cars and nes— change is caused by their cars and gas boilers— change is caused by their cars and gas boilers exists only in scientific— and gas boilers exists only in scientific published by scientific papers published by scientists— scientific papers published by scientists paid— scientific papers published by scientists paid for by the newennneni— scientists paid for by the government .— scientists paid for by the government . and when danger government. and when the danger nesei— government. and when the danger neseiline— government. and when the danger neseiline ne— government. and when the danger posed the new disease exists posed by the new disease exists nnneniw— posed by the new disease exists primarily propaganda primarily in propaganda neneneiei— primarily in propaganda generated the government and generated by the government and the generated by the government and ine neenie— generated by the government and ine neenie newe— generated by the government and the people have only the government— the people have only the government to rely on for assurances regarding safety assurances regarding the safety and assurances regarding the safety uni—ine— assurances regarding the safety and the prescribed and efficacy of the prescribed eni— and efficacy of the prescribed and iii— and efficacy of the prescribed and eii nui— and efficacy of the prescribed and all but mandated medical nneiuci— and all but mandated medical nneiuci .— and all but mandated medical nneiuci . a— and all but mandated medical product . a government can and product. a government can and suneiw— product. a government can and suneiw wiii— product. a government can and surely will, however, eventually get nuncn— surely will, however, eventually get punch drunk— surely will, however, eventually get punch drunk on the success of get punch drunk on the success ei se— get punch drunk on the success ei se nucn— get punch drunk on the success of so much nonsense. pushed neieniiessiw— of so much nonsense. pushed relentlessly by— of so much nonsense. pushed relentlessly by sock puppet neiiiiciens— relentlessly by sock puppet neiiiiciens .— relentlessly by sock puppet politicians , biased scientific politicians, biased scientific eiwisens— politicians, biased scientific eiwisens .— politicians, biased scientific advisors , nudge units and advisors, nudge units and cenniicii— advisors, nudge units and complicit media so punchy and cunei— complicit media so punchy and ceniei ewew— complicit media so punchy and carried away will— complicit media so punchy and carried away will the members of inni— carried away will the members of that government— carried away will the members of that government become the inewiieiiw— that government become the inevitably they _ that government become the inevitably they cross a line and nensueie— inevitably they cross a line and nensueie eecn— inevitably they cross a line and persuade each other they can ieii— persuade each other they can ieii iies— persuade each other they can tell lies about— persuade each other they can tell lies about things those same benighted people see and neat— same benighted people see and ieei even— same benighted people see and ieei every new— same benighted people see and ieei every new .— same benighted people see and feel every day , things that feel every day, things that inneci— feel every day, things that inneci en— feel every day, things that impact on their daily lives. is— impact on their daily lives. is ei— impact on their daily lives. its an inni— impact on their daily lives. it's at that point things get inienesiinn. — it's at that point things get
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interesting. a— it's at that point things get interesting. a government can ieii— interesting. a government can ieii neenie— interesting. a government can tell people inflation is running at tell people inflation is running an s— tell people inflation is running an 8 en— tell people inflation is running an 8 en 9.— tell people inflation is running an 8 en 9. nui— tell people inflation is running at 8 or 9. but even if they einii— at 8 or 9. but even if they einii neen— at 8 or 9. but even if they admit food prices are subject to einen— admit food prices are subject to einen neces— admit food prices are subject to einen ieces .— admit food prices are subject to other forces , as— admit food prices are subject to other forces , as people doing other forces, as people doing incin— other forces, as people doing inein weeiiw— other forces, as people doing their weekly shop in the supermarket— their weekly shop in the supermarket simply cannot help but — supermarket simply cannot help but see. they're— supermarket simply cannot help but see. they're sometimes sneneing— but see. they're sometimes spending twice— but see. they're sometimes spending twice as much at the ins— spending twice as much at the iiiis-sene— spending twice as much at the tills-same stuff.- spending twice as much at the tills same stuff. they tills for the same stuff. they eiwews— tills for the same stuff. they eiwews nuw. — tills for the same stuff. they always buy. i'll— tills for the same stuff. they always buy. i'll tell you seneininn— always buy. i'll tell you something for nothing and you can something for nothing and you ieiiew— something for nothing and you ieiiew ny— something for nothing and you can follow my thinking or not as you can follow my thinking or not as weu see— can follow my thinking or not as you iii.— can follow my thinking or not as you iii. nui— can follow my thinking or not as you see fit. but i— can follow my thinking or not as you see fit. but i say we and nucn— you see fit. but i say we and nucn ei— you see fit. but i say we and nucn ei ine— you see fit. but i say we and much of the rest— you see fit. but i say we and much of the rest of europe and the much of the rest of europe and tie uniiei— much of the rest of europe and the united-as- much of the rest of europe and the united-as well- much of the rest of europe and the united as well are the united states as well are eineeiw— the united states as well are already recession. even when already in recession. even when the already in recession. even when ine newennneni— already in recession. even when the government we're not in the government says we're not in a i the government says we're not in e-i sew— the government says we're not in e-i sew inei-s— a recession, i say that's ecenew— a recession, i say that's economy actuality. a recession, i say that's- economy-actuality. what's economy with actuality. what's ene-aiien— economy with actuality. what's one -after all, - economy with actuality. what's one after all, when one more lie? after all, when weue— one more lie? after all, when youe eineeiw— one more lie? after all, when you're already up— one more lie? after all, when you're already up to your neck in you're already up to your neck iii-.— you're already up to your neck in-, sometimes- you're already up to your neck in , sometimes when you hurt in them, sometimes when you hurt weunseii— in them, sometimes when you hurt weunseii neeiiw— in them, sometimes when you hurt yourself really badly, there are a yourself really badly, there are e—ieeiinn- yourself really badly, there are. a_feeling nothing a few moments of feeling nothing at a few moments of feeling nothing einniie— a few moments of feeling nothing einniie weun— a few moments of feeling nothing at.while your body— a few moments of feeling nothing at while your body gathers at all while your body gathers up at all while your body gathers un eii— at all while your body gathers un eii ine— at all while your body gathers un eii ine nein— at all while your body gathers up all the pain you're about to ice.— up all the pain you're about to ieei-inei-s— up all the pain you're about to feel.-that's where- up all the pain you're about to feel. that's where we are feel. i say that's where we are in— feel. i say that's where we are in inci— feel. i say that's where we are now in that-limbo.- feel. i say that's where we are now in that limbo. the last now in that numb limbo. the last nennensi— now in that numb limbo. the last moments before— now in that numb limbo. the last moments before we— now in that numb limbo. the last moments before we get hit by the nun— moments before we get hit by the nun inci— moments before we get hit by the nun we win— moments before we get hit by the hurt that will make— moments before we get hit by the hurt that will make many fall a— hurt that will make many fall over. a government can tell neenie— over. a government can tell neenie incin— over. a government can tell people their energy bills are innuen— people their energy bills are inneunn-neei— people their energy bills are through-roof-en- people their energy bills are through roof en route to through the roof and en route to the through the roof and en route to inc—because- through the roof and en route to the—because the. the stratosphere because the icussiens— the stratosphere because the russians-un— the stratosphere because the russians up their own russians blew up their own nineiine— russians blew up their own nineiine en— russians blew up their own pipeline or the— russians blew up their own pipeline or the same pipeline inni— pipeline or the same pipeline inei nei— pipeline or the same pipeline that had delivered natural gas
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to that had delivered natural gas. ie—newenneuse to germany. europe's powerhouse is e— to germany. europe's powerhouse is e nineiine— to germany. europe's powerhouse is a pipeline that— to germany. europe's powerhouse is a pipeline that had provided icussie— is a pipeline that had provided icussie witn— is a pipeline that had provided russia with leverage russia with massive leverage wnen— russia with massive leverage wnen-ie— russia with massive leverage when to dictating or at when it came to dictating or at ieesi— when it came to dictating or at least influencing— when it came to dictating or at least influencing the nature of the relationship _ least influencing the nature of the relationship between russia and the relationship between russia uni-ei— the relationship between russia uni-ei iunene- and the whole of europe. a newennneni— and the whole of europe. a government can— and the whole of europe. a government can tell people icussie— government can tell people russia inflicted— government can tell people russia inflicted that wound upon iiseii— russia inflicted that wound upon iiseii wnen— russia inflicted that wound upon itself when all— russia inflicted that wound upon itself when all it— russia inflicted that wound upon itself when all it had to do to sinnnie— itself when all it had to do to strangle europe.— itself when all it had to do to strangle europe. that it strangle europe. that way, if it so strangle europe. that way, if it se wisneci— strangle europe. that way, if it so wished, was— strangle europe. that way, if it so wished, was to— strangle europe. that way, if it so wished, was to turn off the tap— so wished, was to turn off the inn wniie — so wished, was to turn off the inn wniie-iis- so wished, was to turn off the tap while-its very- tap while leaving its very enensie— tap while leaving its very expensive pipeline on the expensive pipeline intact on the seabed— expensive pipeline intact on the seabed ready— expensive pipeline intact on the seabed ready for— expensive pipeline intact on the seabed ready for another day . seabed ready for another day. governments— seabed ready for another day. governments can— seabed ready for another day. governments can tell people as nucn— governments can tell people as nucn eni— governments can tell people as nucn uni ine— governments can tell people as much and the people may or may not much and the people may or may nei ieiiewe— much and the people may or may not believe it.— much and the people may or may not believe it. germany and japan— not believe it. germany and ienen ene— not believe it. germany and japan are already officially in recession. we— japan are already officially in recession. we are— japan are already officially in recession. we are too , i say, recession. we are too, i say, nui— recession. we are too, i say, but eu— recession. we are too, i say, but our government chooses to try but our government chooses to in eni— but our government chooses to in and keep— but our government chooses to in and keen us— but our government chooses to try and keep us looking the ewe— try and keep us looking the einen wew— try and keep us looking the einen wew .— try and keep us looking the einen way. in— try and keep us looking the other way . in the warm and other way. in the warm and winni— other way. in the warm and bright summer— other way. in the warm and bright summer months before the newness— bright summer months before the darkness ei— bright summer months before the darkness of-comes- bright summer months before the darkness of-comes .- bright summer months before the darkness of comes . but darkness of winter comes. but newennnensi— darkness of winter comes. but governments couldn't stop . governments couldn't stop. cennen— governments couldn't stop. german people— governments couldn't stop. german people and others all iunene— german people and others all over europe feeling the cold and experiencing— over europe feeling the cold and experiencing the— over europe feeling the cold and experiencing the darkness that nesuiis— experiencing the darkness that nesuiis-inei— experiencing the darkness that results-that loss- experiencing the darkness that results that loss of all results from that loss of all inni— results from that loss of all inei enennw. — results from that loss of all that energy. their countries and industries— that energy. their countries and industries had— that energy. their countries and industries had previously eeneniei— industries had previously depended upon . like baby depended upon. like a baby neiies— depended upon. like a baby relies-mother's- depended upon. like a baby relies mother's milk. relies on a mother's milk. neenie— relies on a mother's milk. neenie in— relies on a mother's milk. people in germany that industrial— people in germany that industrial and technological newenneuse—
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industrial and technological powerhouse that most thrusting and dynamic— powerhouse that most thrusting and dynamic ei— powerhouse that most thrusting and dynamic of european economies have been cutting down iees — economies have been cutting down iees se— economies have been cutting down icees se inew— economies have been cutting down trees. so they have— economies have been cutting down trees. so they have wood to burn for trees. so they have wood to burn iec neen— trees. so they have wood to burn iec neei. iinni— trees. so they have wood to burn for heat, light and— trees. so they have wood to burn for heat, light and cooking next winiec. — for heat, light and cooking next winter. welcome— for heat, light and cooking next winter. welcome back to the iiiiiie— winter. welcome back to the iiiiiie ages. — winter. welcome back to the middle ages. governments can cut off middle ages. governments can cut eii ine— middle ages. governments can cut eii we need— middle ages. governments can cut off the blood supply to their economies if— off the blood supply to their economies if they wish and enewec— economies if they wish and empower privately owned banks to cceeie— empower privately owned banks to cceeie nenew— empower privately owned banks to create money out— empower privately owned banks to create money out of— empower privately owned banks to create money out of thin air. inci— create money out of thin air. we enw— create money out of thin air. that only dilutes— create money out of thin air. that only dilutes the value ciesec— that only dilutes the value ciesec eni— that only dilutes the value closer and closer to zero of the neenie-s— closer and closer to zero of the neenie-s swings— closer and closer to zero of the people's savings and pension iunis— people's savings and pension iunis es— people's savings and pension funds, as well— people's savings and pension funds, as well as— people's savings and pension funds, as well as the contents of funds, as well as the contents ei ineic— funds, as well as the contents of their salaries. _ funds, as well as the contents of their salaries. but they can-i— of their salaries. but they cant sien— of their salaries. but they can't stop those people noticing the can't stop those people noticing ine eiieci— can't stop those people noticing ine eiieci ei— can't stop those people noticing the effect of impoverishment or of the effect of impoverishment or ei ewecei— the effect of impoverishment or of severed supply— the effect of impoverishment or of severed supply chains that ninni— of severed supply chains that ninni cesuii— of severed supply chains that might result in— of severed supply chains that might result in empty supermarket shelves if governments- supermarket shelves if governments think people will cunn— governments think people will iucn ine— governments think people will turn the same— governments think people will turn the same blind eyes and ieei— turn the same blind eyes and ieei enns— turn the same blind eyes and ieei ie— turn the same blind eyes and deaf ears to being subjected to ceii— deaf ears to being subjected to ceii eni— deaf ears to being subjected to cold and dark— deaf ears to being subjected to cold and dark and— deaf ears to being subjected to cold and dark and hunger. the inni— cold and dark and hunger. the same that they— cold and dark and hunger. the same that they will turn to iecewew— same that they will turn to faraway wars, _ same that they will turn to faraway wars, to - same that they will turn to faraway wars, to questionable ciineie — faraway wars, to questionable climate crises— faraway wars, to questionable climate crises born only of cennuiec— climate crises born only of computer modelling and illnesses that computer modelling and illnesses tie in— computer modelling and illnesses tie in ceeiiw— computer modelling and illnesses that in reality kill— computer modelling and illnesses that in reality kill almost only the that in reality kill almost only we neciiiiw— that in reality kill almost only the morbidly sick , and those the morbidly sick, and those weii— the morbidly sick, and those weii nesi— the morbidly sick, and those well past the _ the morbidly sick, and those well past the limit of natural iiie— well past the limit of natural life expectancy. _ well past the limit of natural life expectancy. if government ten-i— life expectancy. if government ien-i ceeiise— life expectancy. if government don't realise that— life expectancy. if government don't realise that playing with the don't realise that playing with tie iini— don't realise that playing with tie iini ei— don't realise that playing with the kind of fire— don't realise that playing with the kind of fire you might light if the kind of fire you might light ii weu— the kind of fire you might light ii weu newe— the kind of fire you might light if you have access— the kind of fire you might light if you have access to oil, gas
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eni— if you have access to oil, gas uni-enecnw- if you have access to oil, gasi and-energy,-which if you have access to oil, gas- and-energy,-which in and nuclear energy, but which in all and nuclear energy, but which in eii-is— and nuclear energy, but which in all-is impossible- all likelihood is impossible if weuce— all likelihood is impossible if weu-ce—seiecl all likelihood is impossible if- you're _ solar panels you're dependent on solar panels and wine— you're dependent on solar panels and wind turbines,— you're dependent on solar panels and wind turbines, if governments have been led by inni— governments have been led by that-trickster— governments have been led by that trickster hubris into that old trickster hubris into ininiinn— that old trickster hubris into thinking there's— that old trickster hubris into thinking there's no limit to how euiceoeeusiw— thinking there's no limit to how outrageously might lie to outrageously they might lie to the outrageously they might lie to ine neenie— outrageously they might lie to ine neenie eni— outrageously they might lie to the people and still get away witn— the people and still get away wiinlinen— the people and still get away wiinlinen i— the people and still get away with-then i say— the people and still get away with then i say there's with it, then i say there's a sienn— with it, then i say there's a storm coming.— with it, then i say there's a storm coming. for this reason, oewecncnensi— storm coming. for this reason, governments seek— storm coming. for this reason, governments seek to sever people icen— governments seek to sever people icen-nisiew— governments seek to sever people icen-nisiecw .— governments seek to sever people from history , tradition from family history, tradition eni— from family history, tradition and ieii.— from family history, tradition and faith. all— from family history, tradition and faith. all that might keep inen — and faith. all that might keep them anchored— and faith. all that might keep them anchored if there is a meni— them anchored if there is a necei ninn— them anchored if there is a moral high ground, then we are ieeiinn— moral high ground, then we are ieeiinn-icen - moral high ground, then we are looking-from the- looking up at it from the newness— looking up at it from the darkness below . if there's darkness below. if there's a nensi— darkness below. if there's a necei high— darkness below. if there's a moral high ground than we eienienei— moral high ground than we abandoned-ago- moral high ground than we abandoned ago . our abandoned it long ago. our oewecnneni— abandoned it long ago. our government sanctions propaganda eieui— government sanctions propaganda eieui new— government sanctions propaganda about how little— government sanctions propaganda about how little boys might be necsueiei— about how little boys might be necsueiei .— about how little boys might be persuaded . they're little persuaded. they're little girls eni— persuaded. they're little girls uni-gins— persuaded. they're little girls and-girls might- persuaded. they're little girls and girls might be and little girls might be necsueieci— and little girls might be persuaded. are little boys persuaded. they are little boys eni— persuaded. they are little boys and eu— persuaded. they are little boys and our government pays for the neiniinn—en- and our government pays for the painting—on roads,. painting of rainbows on roads, wniie— painting of rainbows on roads, wniie-newe- painting of rainbows on roads, while-have the- painting of rainbows on roads, while have the colour while children have the colour cunei— while children have the colour cewei eni— while children have the colour carved and bled— while children have the colour carved and bled out of their nessiiie— carved and bled out of their possible futures— carved and bled out of their possible futures . all around us. possible futures. all around us. new— possible futures. all around us. new is— possible futures. all around us. new is-siew— possible futures. all around us. now is-slow creep- possible futures. all around us. now is slow creep of erosion now is the slow creep of erosion of now is the slow creep of erosion ei-iesics— now is the slow creep of erosion ei-iesics ei— now is the slow creep of erosion of-basics of decent- now is the slow creep of erosion of basics of decent and of the basics of decent and happy— of the basics of decent and happy-i— of the basics of decent and happy-' 5aw- of the basics of decent and happy-' saw a- of the basics of decent and happy i saw a headline happy lives. i saw a headline insi— happy lives. i saw a headline iesi week— happy lives. i saw a headline last week about— happy lives. i saw a headline last week about how in a year's cine— last week about how in a year's iicne ine— last week about how in a year's time the repossession of houses wiii— time the repossession of houses wiii sien— time the repossession of houses wiii sien .— time the repossession of houses wiii sien . king— time the repossession of houses will start . king of— time the repossession of houses will start . king of sock will start. king of the sock iunneis— will start. king of the sock puppets rishi _ will start. king of the sock puppets rishi sunak had the sunken—
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puppets rishi sunak had the bankers downing street bankers into downing street neiieneiiw— bankers into downing street notionally to _ bankers into downing street notionally to talk about nenneoes— notionally to talk about nenoeoes .— notionally to talk about mortgages , among other things, mortgages, among other things, iniecesi— mortgages, among other things, iniecesi-ece— mortgages, among other things, interest-are up— mortgages, among other things, interest are up again to interest rates are up again to 5. interest rates are up again to 5- incis— interest rates are up again to 5- inei-s nice— interest rates are up again to 5. that's nice of— interest rates are up again to 5. that's nice of them, isn't iii— 5. that's nice of them, isn't iii wice— 5. that's nice of them, isn't iii wice ei— 5. that's nice of them, isn't it? nice of the— 5. that's nice of them, isn't it? nice of the bankers who, wnen— it? nice of the bankers who, wnen ine— it? nice of the bankers who, when the money— it? nice of the bankers who, when the money runs out, just ncess— when the money runs out, just ncess iuiiens— when the money runs out, just press buttons on— when the money runs out, just press buttons on computer iewieecis— press buttons on computer keyboards create more phoney keyboards to create more phoney ienzi — keyboards to create more phoney ponzi-billion_ keyboards to create more phoney ponzi -billion for- ponzi billions billion for iecewew— ponzi billions billion for faraway wars— ponzi billions billion for faraway wars and to finance the nceiiieiie — faraway wars and to finance the profitable rebuilding of the ceuniw— profitable rebuilding of the country flattened by that war. icenessessien — country flattened by that war. repossession of— country flattened by that war. repossession of houses. one of the repossession of houses. one of tie eneec— repossession of houses. one of the great dreads— repossession of houses. one of the great dreads of modern life in eu— the great dreads of modern life in nen— the great dreads of modern life in nun ei— the great dreads of modern life in our part of the— the great dreads of modern life in our part of the world is back on in our part of the world is back en ine— in our part of the world is back en ine cuisi— in our part of the world is back on the cards. and— in our part of the world is back on the cards. and apparently inis— on the cards. and apparently inis is— on the cards. and apparently this is where— on the cards. and apparently this is where we're headed now. wniie— this is where we're headed now. while politicians— this is where we're headed now. while politicians score points eieui— while politicians score points eieui wne— while politicians score points about who ate— while politicians score points about who ate birthday cake and inni— about who ate birthday cake and iceni wine— about who ate birthday cake and drank wine while— about who ate birthday cake and drank wine while singing karaoke sense— drank wine while singing karaoke sends-neenie- drank wine while singing karaoke songs, people died songs, as elderly people died eiene— songs, as elderly people died alone-loved— songs, as elderly people died alone-loved-were. songs, as elderly people died- alone-loved-were barred alone and loved ones were barred icen— alone and loved ones were barred icen-iuneceis— alone and loved ones were barred icen-iuneceis .— alone and loved ones were barred from-funerals . all- alone and loved ones were barred from funerals . all over from their funerals. all over ine— from their funerals. all over inc-neenie- from their funerals. all over the - people are - from their funerals. all over the people are growing the country, people are growing scecei— the country, people are growing scared—fearful- the country, people are growing scared _fearful ofi scared of the future, fearful of new— scared of the future, fearful of new inew-ii— scared of the future, fearful of how they'll feed _ scared of the future, fearful of how they'll feed their families eni— how they'll feed their families and keep— how they'll feed their families and keep them— how they'll feed their families and keep them warm winter, and keep them warm in winter, keep— and keep them warm in winter, keen-incin- and keep them warm in winter, keep-their heads- and keep them warm in winter, keep-their heads .. keep roofs over their heads. neesn-i— keep roofs over their heads. neesn-i-ie — keep roofs over their heads. doesn't-to be - keep roofs over their heads. doesn't to be this way . doesn't have to be this way. neenie— doesn't have to be this way. people feeling _ doesn't have to be this way. people feeling hopeless and neweciess— people feeling hopeless and powerless must— people feeling hopeless and powerless must remember that new— powerless must remember that inew-newe— powerless must remember that inew-newe eii- powerless must remember that they-have all the- powerless must remember that they have all the power they already have all the power inew— they already have all the power inew-ewec— they already have all the power inew-ewec-ii- they already have all the power they-ever-if they- they already have all the power they ever if they will they will ever need if they will iusi— they will ever need if they will iusi-ieneinec— they will ever need if they will just-together.one- they will ever need if they will just together one and just come together as one and use-newec— just come together as one and use-newec .— just come together as one and use power. history helps us use that power. history helps us new— use that power. history helps us new ine— use that power. history helps us hear the history— use that power. history helps us hear the history of— use that power. history helps us hear the history of the first wecii—
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hear the history of the first wecii wen— hear the history of the first world war in— hear the history of the first world war in glasgow when so many— world war in glasgow when so many ei— world war in glasgow when so many ei ine— world war in glasgow when so many of the men— world war in glasgow when so many of the men were at war and ieii— many of the men were at war and women were left behind with the kits. — women were left behind with the kits. inece— women were left behind with the kids. there were— women were left behind with the kids. there were no— women were left behind with the kids. there were no council neuses— kids. there were no council houses-homes. kids. there were no council. houses-homes were houses then. all homes were ewnei— houses then. all homes were owned-private— houses then. all homes were owned private landlords , you owned by private landlords, you midni— owned by private landlords, you ninni sew. — owned by private landlords, you ninni sew. neenie— owned by private landlords, you might say. people had nothing, but might say. people had nothing, iui—i-nl but all things considered, i'm not but all things considered, i'm newec-ce— but all things considered, i'm newec-cc nennw- but all things considered, i'm not were happy about not sure they were happy about inni— not sure they were happy about inn—nw— not sure they were happy about that my experience that situation. in my experience , that situation. in my experience . neenie— that situation. in my experience . neenie witn— that situation. in my experience , people with nothing are seldom happy— , people with nothing are seldom happy -— , people with nothing are seldom nennw. ii— , people with nothing are seldom nennw. ii ws— , people with nothing are seldom nennw. ii ieii— , people with nothing are seldom happy. it was 1915 and husbands and ieinecs— happy. it was 1915 and husbands and fathers were _ happy. it was 1915 and husbands and fathers were away fighting the and fathers were away fighting ine — and fathers were away fighting the war, meaning many women were bringing— the war, meaning many women were winning-incin— the war, meaning many women were bringing their children alone bringing up their children alone in-eiien— bringing up their children alone in-eiien es— bringing up their children alone in effort was drawing in the war effort was drawing neenie— in the war effort was drawing neenie ince— in the war effort was drawing people into .city- in the war effort was drawing people into city to work in people into the city to work in the factories— people into the city to work in the factories ,_ people into the city to work in the factories , the— people into the city to work in the factories , the foundries and the factories, the foundries and sninwecis.— the factories, the foundries and. sninwecis.—nenes shipyards. and they needed homes to shipyards. and they needed homes ie-eni— shipyards. and they needed homes ie-eni eiceeiw— to live in and already overcrowded - to live in and already overcrowded city, one in which the overcrowded city, one in which we ciw— overcrowded city, one in which the city fathers— overcrowded city, one in which the city fathers had stubbornly ienecei— the city fathers had stubbornly ienecei-sieie— the city fathers had stubbornly ignored - state of - the city fathers had stubbornly ignored state of the housing ignored the state of the housing sieci— ignored the state of the housing sieci-ieiiei— ignored the state of the housing stock .failedlbuild- stock and failed to build enwininn— stock and failed to build anything like— stock and failed to build anything like new stock and failed to build- anything like-new ones anything like enough new ones wes-ie— anything like enough new ones was-to breaking- anything like enough new ones was to breaking point . was pushed to breaking point. ineiii— was pushed to breaking point. profit-landlords- was pushed to breaking point. profit landlords saw the profit hungry landlords saw the ennenuniiw— profit hungry landlords saw the ennenuniiw eni— profit hungry landlords saw the opportunity and sought to hike the opportunity and sought to hike ine cents— opportunity and sought to hike the rents for— opportunity and sought to hike the rents for families that ceuiin-i— the rents for families that couldn't-were- the rents for families that couldn't were evicted to couldn't pay were evicted to neie— couldn't pay were evicted to neie-inesc- couldn't pay were evicted to make-those that- couldn't pay were evicted to make those that could . couldn't pay were evicted to- make-those that could . a make way for those that could. a cieseew— make way for those that could. a glasgow-called- make way for those that could. a glasgow called mary barber glasgow woman called mary barber eceenisei— glasgow woman called mary barber eceenisei e— glasgow woman called mary barber organised a resistance movement , organised a resistance movement . enceuceeine— organised a resistance movement , encouraging tenants to wiinneii— , encouraging tenants to withhold their rent and coordinating- withhold their rent and coordinating protests outside anv— coordinating protests outside enw nemes— coordinating protests outside any homes targeted for eviction wnen— any homes targeted for eviction wnen ine— any homes targeted for eviction when the bailiffs— any homes targeted for eviction when the bailiffs would find ineic— when the bailiffs would find ineic wew— when the bailiffs would find their way blocked by hundreds of
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wenen-wiin— their way blocked by hundreds of women, with prams filled women, many with prams filled witn— women, many with prams filled wiin ieiies— women, many with prams filled with babies and— women, many with prams filled with babies and children in the eiiens— with babies and children in the eiiens ei— with babies and children in the efforts of what— with babies and children in the efforts of what became known as tics.— efforts of what became known as iics. necieuc-s— efforts of what became known as mrs. barbour's army attracted the attention _ mrs. barbour's army attracted the attention of— mrs. barbour's army attracted the attention of shipyard and ieciew— the attention of shipyard and factory workers— the attention of shipyard and factory workers who threatened to factory workers who threatened ie swine— factory workers who threatened ie siciie ii— factory workers who threatened to strike if the— factory workers who threatened to strike if the evictions ween-i— to strike if the evictions weren't stopped. so effective wes-neciec-s— weren't stopped. so effective was barber's rent strike was mrs. barber's rent strike ine— was mrs. barber's rent strike ine secceiew— was mrs. barber's rent strike the secretary of— was mrs. barber's rent strike the secretary of state for sceiieni— the secretary of state for scotland was _ the secretary of state for scotland was forced to act, iniiieiine— scotland was forced to act, initiating the _ scotland was forced to act, initiating the passing of a bill innuen— initiating the passing of a bill through parliament that froze cents— through parliament that froze cenis ei— through parliament that froze rents at pre—war_ through parliament that froze rents at pre—war levels . some of rents at pre—war levels. some of the rents at pre—war levels. some of tie ieneni— rents at pre—war levels. some of the tenant protections set in niece— the tenant protections set in niece in— the tenant protections set in niece in ieii— the tenant protections set in place in 1915 were still in niece— place in 1915 were still in niece un— place in 1915 were still in niece un ince— place in 1915 were still in place up into the 1980s. here's the place up into the 1980s. here's ine inine— place up into the 1980s. here's ine inine eii— place up into the 1980s. here's the thing all of— place up into the 1980s. here's the thing all of that was ecniewei— the thing all of that was achieved by— the thing all of that was achieved by ordinary people ceninn— achieved by ordinary people coming together in defiance of iniusiice— coming together in defiance of injustice. rather— coming together in defiance of injustice. rather than stand nuieiw— injustice. rather than stand nuieiw nw— injustice. rather than stand mutely by while their neighbours incewn— mutely by while their neighbours were thrown out— mutely by while their neighbours were thrown out onto the street. eciinew— were thrown out onto the street. eceinew neenie— were thrown out onto the street. ordinary people in— were thrown out onto the street. ordinary people in the main wiin— ordinary people in the main women with their babies in their sieei— women with their babies in their sieei un— women with their babies in their arms stood up for— women with their babies in their arms stood up for each other and sein— arms stood up for each other and seii — arms stood up for each other and seii inei— arms stood up for each other and said no. that was— arms stood up for each other and said no. that was all it took . said no. that was all it took. ani— said no. that was all it took. ani ine— said no. that was all it took. and the national— said no. that was all it took. and the national government was ieccei— and the national government was ieccei ie— and the national government was forced to accede— and the national government was forced to accede their forced to accede to their ienenis— forced to accede to their ienenis .— forced to accede to their demands . so- forced to accede to their demands . so many of us are demands. so many of us are sicienei— demands. so many of us are sicienei nw— demands. so many of us are sickened by the _ demands. so many of us are sickened by the diet of lies we newe— sickened by the diet of lies we newe neen— sickened by the diet of lies we have been fed.— sickened by the diet of lies we have been fed. but i say the ieiesi— have been fed. but i say the latest danger— have been fed. but i say the latest danger is— have been fed. but i say the latest danger is the relentless nuine— latest danger is the relentless nudge-forgive— latest danger is the relentless nudge forgive and forget, or nudge to forgive and forget, or to nudge to forgive and forget, or ie-ii— nudge to forgive and forget, or ie-ii eii— nudge to forgive and forget, or
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to-it all behind— nudge to forgive and forget, or to it all behind us. i for to put it all behind us. i for one:— to put it all behind us. i for ene-ne— to put it all behind us. i for one,-no stomach- to put it all behind us. i for one, no stomach for such one, have no stomach for such a ieicewei— one, have no stomach for such a ieicewei. ai— one, have no stomach for such a betrayal. at the _ one, have no stomach for such a betrayal. at the very suggestion inei—ine- betrayal. at the very suggestioni that—the carpet. that we brush under the carpet. so that we brush under the carpet. se—se— that we brush under the carpet. se—se nucn- that we brush under the carpet. so so much damage that we brush under the carpet.- so_so much damage for so much hurt, so much damage for wnicn—wei— so much hurt, so much damage for which—yet accepted- which no one has yet accepted cesnensiiiiiw— which no one has yet accepted responsibility .— which no one has yet accepted responsibility . each of us must responsibility. each of us must iece— responsibility. each of us must take responsible— responsibility. each of us must take responsible ability for win— take responsible ability for we nennens— take responsible ability for what happens next. the choice is eiwieus— what happens next. the choice is obvious. march— what happens next. the choice is obvious. march in— what happens next. the choice is obvious. march in line into an innewecisneci— obvious. march in line into an impoverished, limited future iuiii— impoverished, limited future iuiii en— impoverished, limited future built on lies— impoverished, limited future built on lies and shaped to enewec— built on lies and shaped to empower and— built on lies and shaped to empower and enrich the few, or neie— empower and enrich the few, or neie us— empower and enrich the few, or neie us sceni— empower and enrich the few, or make us stand with those who weuii— make us stand with those who would defend— make us stand with those who would defend the— make us stand with those who would defend the freedoms and way— would defend the freedoms and we ei— would defend the freedoms and we ei iiie— would defend the freedoms and way of life cherished by the men— way of life cherished by the men .— many. although many-- although if nenw— although if that's my many-— although if that's my opinion, of course , and— although if that's my opinion, of course , and you're free to of course, and you're free to iisencee— of course, and you're free to disagree with— of course, and you're free to disagree with me- of course, and you're free to disagree with me , keep your disagree with me, keep your iweeis— disagree with me, keep your iweeis eni— disagree with me, keep your tweets and emails coming all innuen— tweets and emails coming all inceuen ine— tweets and emails coming all through the show, you can email gbviews@gbnews.com and you can iweei— gbviews@gbnews.com and you can iweei ne— gbviews@gbnews.com and you can iweei ne es— gbviews@gbnews.com and you can tweet me as well— gbviews@gbnews.com and you can tweet me as well at— gbviews@gbnews.com and you can tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll tweet me as well at gb news. and ii in— tweet me as well at gb news. and in in ie— tweet me as well at gb news. and in in ie nei— tweet me as well at gb news. and in in ie oei ie— tweet me as well at gb news. and i'll try to get to some of your comments later— i'll try to get to some of your comments later in— i'll try to get to some of your comments later in the show. if ncecieus— comments later in the show. if ncecieus cine— comments later in the show. if precious time allows. joining me ieninii— precious time allows. joining me ieninni. ine— precious time allows. joining me tonight, the author, columnist eni— tonight, the author, columnist ene nceseniec— tonight, the author, columnist and presenter tanya buxton. ienwe— and presenter tanya buxton. ienwe ii-s— and presenter tanya buxton. tanya it's lovely— and presenter tanya buxton. tanya it's lovely to see you. ceme— tanya it's lovely to see you. cene — tanya it's lovely to see you. cene ini— tanya it's lovely to see you. come i'm free— tanya it's lovely to see you.
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come i'm free to- tanya it's lovely to see you. come i'm free to believe every single word you said because you speak the truth. i i, i, you live in the real world where i live in the real world where i live . and what do you see when live. and what do you see when you— live. and what do you see when weu ieei— live. and what do you see when you ieei euc— live. and what do you see when you ieei eui ei— l and what do you see when you look out at people dealing witn— you look out at people dealing wiin ine— you look out at people dealing wiin ine new— you look out at people dealing with the day to— you look out at people dealing with the day to day reality of ine— with the day to day reality of tie cnees— with the day to day reality of the chaos and— with the day to day reality of the chaos and calamity that's been— the chaos and calamity that's been inflicted— the chaos and calamity that's been inflicted upon us? i'm seeing— been inflicted upon us? i'm seeing se— been inflicted upon us? i'm seeing so much— been inflicted upon us? i'm seeing so much deceit , stress seeing so much deceit, stress eni— seeing so much deceit, stress and depression. _ seeing so much deceit, stress and depression. e m: it. and depression. it's and panic because people just don't know what to do. exactly what you said about going into the supermarket, buying the basics and it costing double what it cost you. your mortgages are costing double three times, four times five times what you bargained for every hour. electricity bills are through the roof. there is no way that any normal family can cope with this. you know, if you're even if you're a teacher and a doctor, you cannot cope with this. it's wrong . why do we have this. it's wrong. why do we have the highest costs of food and energy in all of europe? why our governments are failing us. they have lied to us and they're not doing what they can to help us.
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they could so they could lower so much. we don't need to be paying so much. we don't need to be paying these taxes. let me tell you that all of this is giving the government money, the energy rates they give government rates they give the government money, they're rates they give the government money, taxes. they're rates they give the government money, taxes. so they're rates they give the government money, taxes. so the they're getting taxes. so the government's just fine and they're the money and they're taking the money and trying the mess that they trying to fix the mess that they did us. because what drives did to us. because what drives me mostly insane is we are in this mess because of lockdown. can say again, we're in this can i say again, we're in this mess because of lockdown, because of did to us because of what they did to us in lockdown. it's got nothing to do it's got do with ukraine. it's got nothing with anything nothing to do with anything else. gave people else. they gave loans to people that just them and ran off that just took them and ran off . had all the furlough money. . we had all the furlough money. we stay home. we had the we had to stay home. we had the civil services weren't working. so we lost billions of money in tax all of that. and we tax fraud, all of that. and we all know that we were locked down and our society was broken for something that did not harm us. they knew it didn't harm us. i don't care about the parties. i don't care about the parties. i don't care about the parties. i don't care about them at all. but what they prove is that they knew that was not a virus knew that this was not a virus that going to kill people. that was going to kill people. they scared. they were
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they weren't scared. they were not all. they were not scared at all. they were partying no partying like there was no tomorrow. they knew it was tomorrow. so they knew it was false they frightened false and they frightened the hell people. do you hell out of people. do you subscribe all to the notion subscribe at all to the notion that it's not only a mess made by or whatever, but by incompetence or whatever, but a concerted effort to immiserate the middling class to take down people and impoverish those and thereby make them dependent again ? hey, neil, i'm. i'm again? hey, neil, i'm. i'm fighting so hard against that thought. i have fought so hard. i just keep wanting to come back to the fact that they're incompetent idiots. never before did i realise how stupid the people that are in the governing classes are. i thought they were intelligent people, they're intelligent people, but they're not. very hard to not. so i fought very hard to put it down to stupidity. but the feeling that this the sinking feeling that this has been done to us on purpose, this is something that is just rising and rising. and with every step, with turn, the every step, with every turn, the things wrong , every step, with every turn, the things wrong, it's things that go wrong, it's proving be true. i think proving it to be true. i think everyone can see— proving it to be true. i think everyone can see it- “g e ithink everyone can see it and feel it in ine— everyone can see it and feel it in we cecnecs— everyone can see it and feel it in the corners of— everyone can see it and feel it in the corners of our eyes. we-ce— in the corners of our eyes. we-ce en— in the corners of our eyes. we-ce en ine— in the corners of our eyes. we're on the first break already
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eiien— we're on the first break already eiiec-iien — we're on the first break already after liam halligan will after which liam halligan will be after which liam halligan will ie-atn_ after which liam halligan will be-talk about- after which liam halligan will be talk about the be here to talk about the iinenciei— be here to talk about the financial cost— be here to talk about the financial cost of the covid nenienic— financial cost of the covid neneenic ei— financial cost of the covid pandemic, of the lockdown. niece.— pandemic, of the lockdown. indeed. don't— pandemic, of the lockdown. indeed. don't go
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of taxpaying people taking control ei neiienei— taxpaying people taking control of national matters. financial for centuries— of national matters. financial for centuries now,— of national matters. financial for centuries now, we've been at the for centuries now, we've been at we neccw— for centuries now, we've been at we neccw ei— for centuries now, we've been at the mercy of banks— for centuries now, we've been at the mercy of banks run as nciweie— the mercy of banks run as nciweie iec— the mercy of banks run as private for profit business run by secceiiwe— private for profit business run by secretive, unelected and unaccountable _ by secretive, unelected and unaccountable bankers . my first unaccountable bankers. my first guest— unaccountable bankers. my first ouesi ienieni— unaccountable bankers. my first ouesi ienioni is— unaccountable bankers. my first guest tonight is my friend and ieiiew— guest tonight is my friend and ieiiew cn— guest tonight is my friend and fellow gb news— guest tonight is my friend and fellow gb news presenter liam neiiieen— fellow gb news presenter liam neiiinen .— fellow gb news presenter liam neiiinen . ie— fellow gb news presenter liam halligan , to whom i go in search halligan, to whom i go in search of halligan, to whom i go in search ei ine— halligan, to whom i go in search of the wisdom _ halligan, to whom i go in search of the wisdom to— halligan, to whom i go in search of the wisdom to point a way iewecis— of the wisdom to point a way towards avoiding— of the wisdom to point a way towards avoiding the financial iisesiec— towards avoiding the financial disaster that— towards avoiding the financial disaster that seems to be ieenine— disaster that seems to be looming over— disaster that seems to be looming over us like a tsunami. ieiie— looming over us like a tsunami. neiie. iien— looming over us like a tsunami. neiie. iien. i— looming over us like a tsunami. hello, liam. i nato good to be witn— hello, liam. i nato good to be wiin weu— hello, liam. i nato good to be wiin you- seei— hello, liam. i nato good to be with you. good to— hello, liam. i nato good to be with you. good to be good to newe— with you. good to be good to newe weu. — with you. good to be good to have you. you're— with you. good to be good to have you. you're always more nesiiiwe— have you. you're always more nesiiiwe inen— have you. you're always more positive than i— have you. you're always more positive than i am. indeed. the ennei— positive than i am. indeed. the eneei ei— positive than i am. indeed. the angel of death— positive than i am. indeed. the angel of death has a more nesiiiwe— angel of death has a more positive outlook than i do. incew— positive outlook than i do. incew ne— positive outlook than i do. incew ne e— positive outlook than i do. throw me a line and pull me back icen.— throw me a line and pull me back icen. icen— throw me a line and pull me back icen. icen ine— throw me a line and pull me back from. from the brink— throw me a line and pull me back from. from the brink . well, from. from the brink. well, eiwieusiw— from. from the brink. well, eiwieusiw .— from. from the brink. well, obviously , kwasi interest rates obviously, kwasi interest rates wenc— obviously, kwasi interest rates weni un— obviously, kwasi interest rates weni un snecniw— obviously, kwasi interest rates went up sharply last week. the ieii— went up sharply last week. the neni ei— went up sharply last week. the bank of england— went up sharply last week. the bank of england raised interest rates for the 13th time in a row from four and a half to 5. and for a lot of people who fixed their mortgage five years, three years, two years ago, fixed rate
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deals , those fixed rates are now deals, those fixed rates are now expiring and they're having to remortgage at a much, much higher interest rates. they may have mortgaged at 1 or 2. they're having to remortgage at 6 or 7, which can lead to thousands more pounds extra in mortgage payments each year for the average home owning family . the average home owning family. that's a pretty stiff increase in their outgoings . but to throw in their outgoings. but to throw you a line that's more positive, this isn't 2008, neil. this isn't the foothills of a global financial crisis. i don't think we're going to see a sort of systemic meltdown in financial markets anytime soon. but having said that, for some families who are remortgaging and they'll generally be younger families in their 30s and their 40s, single people too, who have bought homes in good faith, they've ended up buying homes that have been very expensive because there's such a shortage of homes in this country. something i've
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written about a lot over the years. they feel a lot of years. they will feel a lot of mortgage in months and mortgage pain in the months and years come . and for my money, years to come. and for my money, that's going to blow back directly to this conservative government, whenever the government, because whenever the economy wrong , it's the economy goes wrong, it's the incumbent government that gets the blame. liam, do you foresee see mass repossession- liam, do you foresee see mass repossession of homes? i see mass repossession of homes? i neen— see mass repossession of homes? i .— see mass repossession of homes? i mean , are we looking into i mean, are we looking into a iuiuce— i mean, are we looking into a iuiuce wnece— i mean, are we looking into a future where thousands of people or more or an order— future where thousands of people or more or an order of magnitude iese ineic— or more or an order of magnitude more lose their homes ? you know more lose their homes? you know , more lose their homes? you know i , more lose their homes? you know . i eiwews— more lose their homes? you know . i eiwews ieecn— more lose their homes? you know . i eiwews ieecn e— more lose their homes? you know , i always learn a lot— more lose their homes? you know , i always learn a lot from your neneienues— , i always learn a lot from your neneiegues .— , i always learn a lot from your monologues , neil,— , i always learn a lot from your monologues , neil, as i'm sure monologues, neil, as i'm sure ieis— monologues, neil, as i'm sure ieis ei— monologues, neil, as i'm sure ieis ei cn— monologues, neil, as i'm sure lots of gb news— monologues, neil, as i'm sure lots of gb news viewers and iisienecs— lots of gb news viewers and listeners do— lots of gb news viewers and listeners do as— lots of gb news viewers and listeners do as well . ' “i: lots of gb news viewers and listeners do as well . '“i: listeners do as well. and that's why— listeners do as well. and that's why we— listeners do as well. and that's why we tune in. i the history of mrs. barber in glasgow, where people power tried to stop evictions. you know, this is the first mortgage crisis that we've had in the age of social media and i think if people are going to be evicted, if mortgage companies are doing repossessions, they're neighbours and their friends are going to film those evictions
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and they're going to get on social media and the mortgage companies involved, which are often big banks and building societies , are going to get an societies, are going to get an awful lot of negative press. so i do think one of the good things about social media is that it will harder you'll that it will make harder you'll make it harder to evict people. and anyway, i think in the vast , vast of cases , we're , vast majority of cases, we're not going to get to that point . not going to get to that point. and spent most of and indeed, i spent most of yesterday standing outside downing while a mortgage downing street while a mortgage summit was going on between chancellor jeremy summit was going on between chancellorjeremy hunt and some of the big mortgage lenders hsbc, santander , lloyds, virgin hsbc, santander, lloyds, virgin and all the rest of them. and they seem to have come up with some kind of deal whereby the mortgage lenders have promised it's not a law, but they've pledged publicly that they will allow families, households that are in mortgage difficulties to extend the terms of their loan to maybe shift from a repayment mortgage to an interest only mortgage, maybe take repayment
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holidays as well. crucially nil without that affecting their future credit rating. so without that meaning that they'll have to pay more for their credit in the future once the immediate crisis is over. now, if the banks deliver on that, if they deliver on that pledge, then i think we can keep repossessions to a minimum . and anyway, this to a minimum. and anyway, this is a spike in interest rates. this is a spike in in inflation. but to throw you another positive line , seeing as it's positive line, seeing as it's the weekend, i do think i mean, inflation is stubbornly high in the uk. it's currently more than double what it is in the us it's 8.7. still in the uk. the may figure which came out last week, was the same as the april figure and that's really led to, you know, turmoil on financial, some financial markets . so that's financial markets. so that's higher by a factor of two than the us. but i do think inflation is going to start to come down quite soon. i've been saying that for a while, but when it does start to come down, it will come down quickly. so it may be that spike in interest
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that this spike in interest rates the spike in mortgage rates, the spike in mortgage payments is pretty temporary. liam i can sense tanya buxton beside me here with with, with something to say based on what you've been saying. so far, they're you've been saying. so far, inew-ce going— you've been saying. so far, they're going to— you've been saying. so far, they're going to get- “g so far, they're going to get some help for, they're going to get some help iec. iec— they're going to get some help iec. iec neenie— they're going to get some help for, for people with homes, ineic— for, for people with homes, their mortgages but these iniecesi— their mortgages but these interest rates— their mortgages but these interest rates are killing iusiness— interest rates are killing business and- interest rates are killing business and there's no iiieiine. — business and there's no lifeline. "gt; business and there's no lifeline. “g business and there's no- lifeline. there's nothing being thrown to businesses. what do you they're going do you think they're going to do about because businesses about that? because businesses are left, right are shutting down left, right and because can't and centre because they can't afford rates . i afford the interest rates. i think that's exactly right. you know, too often on “
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loans than households . loans than households. businesses— loans than households. businesses are often in quite a neweciui— businesses are often in quite a powerful position— businesses are often in quite a powerful position to negotiate . powerful position to negotiate. but powerful position to negotiate. nui weuce— powerful position to negotiate. but you're right,— powerful position to negotiate. but you're right, it's not as if inece-s— but you're right, it's not as if inece-s going— but you're right, it's not as if there's going to— but you're right, it's not as if there's going to be much help for businesses.— there's going to be much help for businesses. but look , for businesses. but look, inew-ce— for businesses. but look, inew-ce nei— for businesses. but look, they're not giving direct help to they're not giving direct help ie ieniiies— they're not giving direct help to families .— they're not giving direct help to families . tanya, not even the to families. tanya, not even the ieieuc— to families. tanya, not even the ieieuc ienw— to families. tanya, not even the labour party wants— to families. tanya, not even the labour party wants to sort of nein— labour party wants to sort of nein neenie— labour party wants to sort of help pebble pay— labour party wants to sort of help people pay their own nenneoes— help people pay their own mortgages because for many neenie— mortgages because for many neenie ceniinn— mortgages because for many people renting, that will look iine— people renting, that will look iiie ninetie— people renting, that will look like middle class welfare . um, like middle class welfare. um, and:— like middle class welfare. um, ene. you— like middle class welfare. um, ene. you knew.— like middle class welfare. um, and, you know, home owners, even ineunn— and, you know, home owners, even ineuon inew— and, you know, home owners, even ineuon new new— and, you know, home owners, even though they may have a cash cucn— though they may have a cash crunch, they're _ though they may have a cash crunch, they're generally a lot newec— crunch, they're generally a lot ieiiec eii— crunch, they're generally a lot better off than— crunch, they're generally a lot better off than a— crunch, they're generally a lot better off than a lot of the cesi— better off than a lot of the cesi ei— better off than a lot of the cesi ei ine — better off than a lot of the rest of the population. liam, i— rest of the population. liam, i tusi— rest of the population. liam, i tusi jump— rest of the population. liam, can i just jump in? when you've been you watch this, you've been watching you're sort of watching this, you're sort of professional you've been professional life. you've been watching don't you just watching this. don't you just despair people despair when you look at people who to be competent who are supposed to be competent , don't you just despair and begin to wonder if it's not incompetence, but career graft, impoverishment of a class ? so impoverishment of a class? so what's got us into this mess in the first place? at the at the neen— the first place? at the at the neen ei— the first place? at the at the neen ei inis— the first place? at the at the heart of this crisis- the first place? at the at the heart of this crisis is- heart of this crisis is a fundamental- heart of this crisis is a fundamental lack of housing in
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this fundamental lack of housing in inis ceuniw. — fundamental lack of housing in this country. we— fundamental lack of housing in this country. we haven't built neeciw— this country. we haven't built nearly enough— this country. we haven't built nearly enough homes either to ieni— nearly enough homes either to ceni ec— nearly enough homes either to ceni en ce— nearly enough homes either to ceni ec ie buy— nearly enough homes either to rent or to buy or— nearly enough homes either to rent or to buy or for social neusinn. — rent or to buy or for social neusinn. ani— rent or to buy or for social housing. and for that reason, ine— housing. and for that reason, ine neenie— housing. and for that reason, the people who— housing. and for that reason, the people who are dealing with six, the people who are dealing with sie— the people who are dealing with six, seven, 8% plus interest neces— six, seven, 8% plus interest ceies en— six, seven, 8% plus interest rates on their— six, seven, 8% plus interest rates on their home loans now in— rates on their home loans now in e nucn— rates on their home loans now are in a much worse position inen— are in a much worse position inen e— are in a much worse position inen e iei— are in a much worse position inen e iei ei— are in a much worse position than a lot of people who were ieeiine— than a lot of people who were ieeiinn witn— than a lot of people who were dealing with 15,— than a lot of people who were dealing with 15, 16, 17% iniecesi— dealing with 15, 16, 17% interest rates- dealing with 15, 16, 17% interest rates back in the 80s eni— interest rates back in the 80s ene ine— interest rates back in the 80s end we eeciw— interest rates back in the 80s and the early 90s. i get so many eneiis— and the early 90s. i get so many eneiis. in— and the early 90s. i get so many emails, i'm stopped— and the early 90s. i get so many emails, i'm stopped on the sweet— emails, i'm stopped on the siceei se— emails, i'm stopped on the street so often— emails, i'm stopped on the street so often by people who witn— street so often by people who wiin eii— street so often by people who with all respect,— street so often by people who with all respect, are sort of 60:— with all respect, are sort of no. es— with all respect, are sort of no. es eni— with all respect, are sort of 60, 65 and they— with all respect, are sort of 60, 65 and they say, well, the kits— 60, 65 and they say, well, the kits ee— 60, 65 and they say, well, the kids are today. _ 60, 65 and they say, well, the kids are today. they don't know inew— kids are today. they don't know inew wee— kids are today. they don't know they were born _ kids are today. they don't know they were born .— kids are today. they don't know they were born . we had 15% they were born. we had 15% iniecesi— they were born. we had 15% interest rates— they were born. we had 15% interest rates and we just saved ani— interest rates and we just saved and we— interest rates and we just saved more. and we didn't go on neiiiew— more. and we didn't go on holiday eni— more. and we didn't go on holiday and we— more. and we didn't go on holiday and we didn't eat eweceei— holiday and we didn't eat avocado sandwiches like today's weunnsiecs— avocado sandwiches like today's weunnsiecs ii— avocado sandwiches like today's youngsters, if they— avocado sandwiches like today's youngsters, if they reined in men— youngsters, if they reined in ineic-eni— youngsters, if they reined in their-and saved,- youngsters, if they reined in their and saved, they they their horns and saved, they they weuiin-i— their horns and saved, they they weuiin-i ie— their horns and saved, they they wouldn't be in— their horns and saved, they they wouldn't be in any— their horns and saved, they they wouldn't be in any difficulties. ani— wouldn't be in any difficulties. and new— wouldn't be in any difficulties. and new cen— wouldn't be in any difficulties. and they can buy— wouldn't be in any difficulties. and they can buy homes. that's not and they can buy homes. that's nei-is. — and they can buy homes. that's nei-is. wei— and they can buy homes. that's not is. neil because not how it is. neil because ieiew-s— not how it is. neil because today's youngsters , they had to today's youngsters, they had to buy— today's youngsters, they had to buy nemes— today's youngsters, they had to buy nenes ei— today's youngsters, they had to buy nenes ei e— today's youngsters, they had to buy homes at a much , much higher buy homes at a much, much higher cesi— buy homes at a much, much higher cesi. a— buy homes at a much, much higher cesi. a nucn— buy homes at a much, much higher cost. a much, much— buy homes at a much, much higher cost. a much, much higher nuiiinie— cost. a much, much higher nuiiinie ei— cost. a much, much higher multiple of their average income inen— multiple of their average income inen wnen— multiple of their average income inen wnen i— multiple of their average income than when i first— multiple of their average income than when i first bought a property— than when i first bought a ncenenw in— than when i first bought a property in the_ than when i first bought a property in the 90s when some gb wews— property in the 90s when some gb
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wews wiewecs— property in the 90s when some gb news viewers first— property in the 90s when some gb news viewers first bought ncenenies— news viewers first bought ncenenies in— news viewers first bought properties in the 80s. news viewers first bought properties in the 80s . so properties in the 80s. so ieiiew-s— properties in the 80s. so today's youngsters are paying more interest— today's youngsters are paying more interest cost at 6 or 7% iniecesi— more interest cost at 6 or 7% interest rate _ more interest cost at 6 or 7% interest rate than— more interest cost at 6 or 7% interest rate than people 20 weecs— interest rate than people 20 weecs ene.— interest rate than people 20 weecs ene. so— interest rate than people 20 years ago. 30 years ago were paying— years ago. 30 years ago were paying ei— years ago. 30 years ago were paying ei is. — years ago. 30 years ago were paying ei is. se— years ago. 30 years ago were paying at 15. so that's the fundamental— paying at 15. so that's the fundamental problem, the lack of nees— fundamental problem, the lack of nees wnicn— fundamental problem, the lack of homes, which means a lot of neenie— homes, which means a lot of neenie newe— homes, which means a lot of neenie newe nei— homes, which means a lot of people have got very indebted at 2 people have got very indebted at z ec— people have got very indebted at 2 en sie— people have got very indebted at 2 or 3% interest.— people have got very indebted at 2 or 3% interest. so— people have got very indebted at 2 or 3% interest. so at five, at.— 2 or 3% interest. so at five, six, seven, 8%_ 2 or 3% interest. so at five, six, seven, 8% interest, they're ceeiiw— six, seven, 8% interest, they're really going— six, seven, 8% interest, they're really going ie— six, seven, 8% interest, they're really going to feel the squeeze. and- really going to feel the squeeze. and then on top of ines— squeeze. and then on top of that, ine— squeeze. and then on top of that, inc-ei— squeeze. and then on top of that, the -of the - squeeze. and then on top of that, the of the tsunami of that, the kind of the tsunami of incenneience— that, the kind of the tsunami of incompetence has— that, the kind of the tsunami of incompetence has really been. ani— incompetence has really been. and i— incompetence has really been. and i gives— incompetence has really been. and it gives me— incompetence has really been. and it gives me no pleasure to say— and it gives me no pleasure to sew inis— and it gives me no pleasure to sew inis icen— and it gives me no pleasure to say this from the— and it gives me no pleasure to say this from the bank of inoieni. — say this from the bank of inoieni. i— say this from the bank of england. i was- say this from the bank of england. i was writing in my ieiencenn— england. i was writing in my telegraph column in late 2020, eeciw— telegraph column in late 2020, eeciw zeni— telegraph column in late 2020, early 2021, when— telegraph column in late 2020, early 2021, when inflation was 1. early 2021, when inflation was i. inece— early 2021, when inflation was i. inece is— early 2021, when inflation was i. inece is en— early 2021, when inflation was 1. there is an inflation surge ceninn— 1. there is an inflation surge coming because— 1. there is an inflation surge coming because when we come out of coming because when we come out ei ieciiewn— coming because when we come out ei ieciiewn .— coming because when we come out of lockdown , you're— coming because when we come out of lockdown , you're going to of lockdown, you're going to newe— of lockdown, you're going to newe e— of lockdown, you're going to newe e weii— of lockdown, you're going to have a wall of— of lockdown, you're going to have a wall of demand and you're going— have a wall of demand and you're going ie— have a wall of demand and you're going ie newe— have a wall of demand and you're going ie newe en— have a wall of demand and you're going to have an economy that's ieen— going to have an economy that's been shuttered— going to have an economy that's been shuttered and held back and it been shuttered and held back and i win— been shuttered and held back and ii wiii sicuonie— been shuttered and held back and it will struggle to— been shuttered and held back and it will struggle to get back in to it will struggle to get back in ie eeen — it will struggle to get back in ie neec. ani— it will struggle to get back in to gear. and the— it will struggle to get back in to gear. and the bank of england ieni— to gear. and the bank of england ieni sayingc— to gear. and the bank of england ieni sewing. een-i— to gear. and the bank of england kept saying, don't worry, old boy,— kept saying, don't worry, old boy, inflation— kept saying, don't worry, old boy, inflation is— kept saying, don't worry, old boy, inflation is transitory. we een-i— boy, inflation is transitory. we tent-ie— boy, inflation is transitory. we don't-to raise— boy, inflation is transitory. we don't to raise interest don't need to raise interest iees —wece| don't need to raise interest. rates. _were far rates. it's fine. they were far iee — rates. it's fine. they were far iee iece— rates. it's fine. they were far iee ieie ie — rates. it's fine. they were far too late to .going. - rates. it's fine. they were far too late to going. and then too late to get going. and then wnen— too late to get going. and then
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wnen-iii— too late to get going. and then when-did start— too late to get going. and then when did start raising when they did start raising iniecesi— when they did start raising interest rates,— when they did start raising interest rates, neal, were interest rates, neal, they were far interest rates, neal, they were iec-iinii— interest rates, neal, they were iec-iinii .— interest rates, neal, they were far-timid . and— interest rates, neal, they were far timid . and that's why far too timid. and that's why ieceuse— far too timid. and that's why because the— far too timid. and that's why because the bank of england was siew— because the bank of england was siew euc— because the bank of england was siew eui ei— because the bank of england was slow out of the— because the bank of england was slow out of the blocks. these iniecesi— slow out of the blocks. these interest rate _ slow out of the blocks. these interest rate rises— slow out of the blocks. these interest rate rises that we got new-eni— interest rate rises that we got new-ene gei— interest rate rises that we got now-and get our- interest rate rises that we got now and get our arms now to try and get our arms ecuse— now to try and get our arms eeuni inis— now to try and get our arms around this inflation problem are around this inflation problem nucn— around this inflation problem are much higher— around this inflation problem are much higher and they will siew— are much higher and they will siew nionec— are much higher and they will stay higher longer. imposing stay higher for longer. imposing nene-meninge- stay higher for longer. imposing more mortgage holders , more pain on mortgage holders, on businesses, as— more pain on mortgage holders, on businesses, as tanya says, on ine— on businesses, as tanya says, on we iceeiec— on businesses, as tanya says, on the broader economy than would einecwise— the broader economy than would otherwise have— the broader economy than would otherwise have been the case. i een-i— otherwise have been the case. i een-i inini— otherwise have been the case. i don't think it's— otherwise have been the case. i don't think it's coordinated , don't think it's coordinated, neiicieus— don't think it's coordinated, malicious gerrymander of the ecenecnw i— malicious gerrymander of the ecenecnw itusi— malicious gerrymander of the economy. i just think it's straightforward and hubris, arrogance , incompetence and arrogance, incompetence and a ieci— arrogance, incompetence and a ieci ei— arrogance, incompetence and a lack of willingness to listen to, lack of willingness to listen ie. weu — lack of willingness to listen to weu knew.— lack of willingness to listen to, you know, clever outside neenie— to, you know, clever outside voices, people who don't go with the consensus— voices, people who don't go with the consensus all— voices, people who don't go with the consensus all the time . we the consensus all the time. we neee— the consensus all the time. we need euc— the consensus all the time. we need eui ei— the consensus all the time. we need out of the— the consensus all the time. we need out of the box thinkers on wet— need out of the box thinkers on we neneiecw— need out of the box thinkers on that monetary policy committee on that monetary policy committee en ine— that monetary policy committee en ine ieni— that monetary policy committee on the bank of— that monetary policy committee on the bank of england. we need iess— on the bank of england. we need iess nceuninini. — on the bank of england. we need less groupthink. we're going to newe— less groupthink. we're going to newe ie— less groupthink. we're going to newe ie newe— less groupthink. we're going to have to have to— less groupthink. we're going to have to have to going to to have to have to going to have to jump— have to have to going to have to jumpli�*ust— have to have to going to have to iunnltusi nuceiw— have to have to going to have to jump just purely because the jump in just purely because the cieci— jump in just purely because the cieci nes— jump in just purely because the clock has ticked— jump in just purely because the clock has ticked down. “ clock has ticked down. thanks so nucn— clock has ticked down. thanks so must iec— clock has ticked down. thanks so much for your insights once again. are more again. you are much more positive am, but then if positive than i am, but then if you were as negative i am you were as negative as i am doing your job now, you would
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have yourself insane long have driven yourself insane long ago. see you. we'll ago. lovely to see you. we'll catch again. another is catch up again. another break is upon which we'll be upon us, after which we'll be chatting michael kill, the chatting to michael kill, the ceo night—time industries ceo of the night—time industries association, tell us association, who will tell us how this is how in reality this is translating to the hospitality industry. are we at risk of losing our much loved pubs, clubs and everything else that we value on the high street?
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be gb news the people's channel, britain's news channel . will britain's news channel. will welcome back to neil oliver iiwe. — welcome back to neil oliver iiwe. ine— welcome back to neil oliver live. the cost— welcome back to neil oliver live. the cost of- welcome back to neil oliver live. f f:“ live. the cost of lockdown is with us for years to come. the insanity of shutting down the world in the face of something , world in the face of something, something that was a threat primarily to the very old and the already sick, took a terrible toll and continues to do so. joining me now to describe the reality of what happened and continues to happen to the hospitality industry is michael kille, ceo of the night time industries association and i'm also hearing that liam halligan is able with us halligan is able to stay with us to part in this to take part in this conversation as well, which is
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excellent news. hello again, liam and hello, michael. hello again to you. hi there. what is it like on the ground for you ? it like on the ground for you? what are you hearing? what are you experiencing yourself and what are you hearing from those that you that you break bread with and chew the fat with? i mean, there's a huge concern , as mean, there's a huge concern, as weu— mean, there's a huge concern, as weu cen— mean, there's a huge concern, as weu enncecieie— mean, there's a huge concern, as you can appreciate, over the iesi— you can appreciate, over the iesi week.— you can appreciate, over the last week, we've— you can appreciate, over the last week, we've seen interest neces— last week, we've seen interest ceies 90— last week, we've seen interest ceies 90 un— last week, we've seen interest ceies 90 un e— last week, we've seen interest rates go up a stark reality has sen— rates go up a stark reality has sen ei— rates go up a stark reality has sort of baked— rates go up a stark reality has sort of baked in— rates go up a stark reality has sort of baked in bank of inoieni. — sort of baked in bank of inoiene. as— sort of baked in bank of england. as i- sort of baked in bank of england. as i was listening eeciiec— england. as i was listening eeciiec .— england. as i was listening earlier , have— england. as i was listening earlier , have got it completely earlier, have got it completely wcene— earlier, have got it completely wcenn eni— earlier, have got it completely wrong and almost three months ago,— wrong and almost three months ene. suggesting— wrong and almost three months ago, suggesting that we're going to ago, suggesting that we're going ie see— ago, suggesting that we're going to see inflation— ago, suggesting that we're going to see inflation come down. and, you— to see inflation come down. and, weu knew— to see inflation come down. and, weu inew .— to see inflation come down. and, weu inew . eu— to see inflation come down. and, you know , our sector is really you know, our sector is really suiiecine— you know, our sector is really suffering hugely— you know, our sector is really suffering hugely suffering at the suffering hugely suffering at we cnecneni— suffering hugely suffering at the moment .— suffering hugely suffering at the moment . we're looking at the moment. we're looking at eieui— the moment. we're looking at eieui e— the moment. we're looking at eieui e neie— the moment. we're looking at about a 40% increase in eneceiine— about a 40% increase in operating costs. and now what seeing— operating costs. and now what we're seeing as— operating costs. and now what we're seeing as we moved into inis— we're seeing as we moved into inis ween— we're seeing as we moved into inis weec is— we're seeing as we moved into inis weec is ne— we're seeing as we moved into this year is now a— we're seeing as we moved into this year is now a 15 to 20% iewniucn— this year is now a 15 to 20% iewniucn in— this year is now a 15 to 20% downturn in trade where many of the downturn in trade where many of tie censucnecs— downturn in trade where many of the consumers out— downturn in trade where many of the consumers out there haven't got the consumers out there haven't eei inei— the consumers out there haven't got that disposable income to euc— got that disposable income to eui eni— got that disposable income to come out and spend in social enwienensi— come out and spend in social environments or— come out and spend in social environments or going out. so inew-ce— environments or going out. so inew-ce icing— environments or going out. so they're being very, very selective. _ they're being very, very selective. so - they're being very, very
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selective. so as you can enncecieie— selective. so as you can appreciate the - selective. so as you can appreciate the frequency of nan,— appreciate the frequency of visit-cine.- appreciate the frequency of visit,-time, the l appreciate the frequency of- visit,-time, the spend visit, the dwell time, the spend is eii— visit, the dwell time, the spend is eii icing— visit, the dwell time, the spend is all being impacted and for our sector in— is all being impacted and for our sector in particular, where we are squeezed— our sector in particular, where we are squeezed between supply cnein— we are squeezed between supply cnein nessine— we are squeezed between supply chain passing on— we are squeezed between supply chain passing on those costs in iecns— chain passing on those costs in iecns ei— chain passing on those costs in iecns ei energy— chain passing on those costs in terms of energy hikes, etcetera . we newne— terms of energy hikes, etcetera , we are having to— terms of energy hikes, etcetera , we are having to absorb them. ani— , we are having to absorb them. and inen— , we are having to absorb them. and inen ei— , we are having to absorb them. and then at the— , we are having to absorb them. and then at the front end we cen-i— and then at the front end we cut ness— and then at the front end we can't pass that— and then at the front end we can't pass that cost on because inesc— can't pass that cost on because those consumers— can't pass that cost on because those consumers can't suffer cnei— those consumers can't suffer inei cesi. — those consumers can't suffer inei cesi. se— those consumers can't suffer that cost. so what we are sat in ine— that cost. so what we are sat in we niiiie— that cost. so what we are sat in we niiiie ei— that cost. so what we are sat in the middle of is— that cost. so what we are sat in the middle of is an— that cost. so what we are sat in the middle of is an environment wnece— the middle of is an environment wnece neenie— the middle of is an environment where people see— the middle of is an environment where people see pubs quite busy . nui— where people see pubs quite busy . iui ine— where people see pubs quite busy . but we nceiii— where people see pubs quite busy , but the profit is— where people see pubs quite busy , but the profit is just not cnee— , but the profit is just not inece. ani— , but the profit is just not there. and we're suggesting and new— there. and we're suggesting and nenw neenie— there. and we're suggesting and nenw neenie ee— there. and we're suggesting and many people are highlighting cnei— many people are highlighting inei einesi— many people are highlighting that almost eight out of ten iusinesses— that almost eight out of ten businesses within the licenced neie— businesses within the licenced neie ee— businesses within the licenced trade are either— businesses within the licenced trade are either barely breaking ec iesinn— trade are either barely breaking even or losing money. so there's nunc— even or losing money. so there's nune cencecn— even or losing money. so there's huge iec— even or losing money. so there's huge concern for the future at the huge concern for the future at we necneni— huge concern for the future at the moment. and— huge concern for the future at the moment. and the news this week— the moment. and the news this week is— the moment. and the news this week is nei— the moment. and the news this week is not going— the moment. and the news this week is not going to help shore eeciw— week is not going to help shore eiiiw es— week is not going to help shore eiiiw es weii— week is not going to help shore eiiiw es weii. — week is not going to help shore oddly as well. ii f week is not going to help shore oddly as well. ii i “iiiii; oddly as well. michael, there's plain anger out there for amongst people. you know, anyone who's who has started and maintained a business knows how know how hard that is in every way, and to watch something that you've built being broken by
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what often feels like deliberate targeting of a sector are your colleagues in the members of your association, not just, you know, furious enough to take up the pitchforks ? well, i'll be the pitchforks? well, i'll be ceeiiw— the pitchforks? well, i'll be really honest— the pitchforks? well, i'll be really honest with- i“ well, i'll be really honest with you. it's getting— really honest with you. it's neiiino wew— really honest with you. it's getting very close at the cnecneni — getting very close at the cnecneni i— getting very close at the moment. i think during the nenienic— moment. i think during the neneenic we— moment. i think during the pandemic, we saw, you know, many of pandemic, we saw, you know, many ei ine— pandemic, we saw, you know, many of the businesses— pandemic, we saw, you know, many of the businesses like nightclubs,- of the businesses like nightclubs, margin lies and not sunnenei.— nightclubs, margin lies and not sunnenei. ani— nightclubs, margin lies and not supported. and there was ieiiniieiw— supported. and there was definitely no— supported. and there was definitely no scalable support in iecns— definitely no scalable support in iecns ei— definitely no scalable support in terms of those— definitely no scalable support in terms of those industries sneciiiceiiw— in terms of those industries sneciiiceiiw .— in terms of those industries specifically , there was a huge specifically, there was a huge niece— specifically, there was a huge niece ei— specifically, there was a huge piece of education that we had to piece of education that we had ie ie— piece of education that we had ie ie ie— piece of education that we had to do to really— piece of education that we had to do to really try— piece of education that we had to do to really try to help the newecnneni— to do to really try to help the government identify and understand— government identify and understand the categories of businesses— understand the categories of businesses that— understand the categories of businesses that were out there. weu— businesses that were out there. weu knew.— businesses that were out there. weu inew. ine— businesses that were out there. you know, the hospitality sector is nei— you know, the hospitality sector is nei iusi— you know, the hospitality sector is not just made— you know, the hospitality sector is not just made up of pubs, restaurants,— is not just made up of pubs, restaurants, hotels, etcetera. weue— restaurants, hotels, etcetera. you've nightclubs , venues, you've got nightclubs, venues, eciiwiiw— you've got nightclubs, venues, activity centres,— you've got nightclubs, venues, activity centres, casinos . activity centres, casinos. inece-s— activity centres, casinos. there's lots— activity centres, casinos. there's lots of- activity centres, casinos. there's lots of different environments- there's lots of different environments out there that have iiiieceni— environments out there that have different-financial- different scalable financial neieis— different scalable financial models. and,— different scalable financial models. and, you know, that was a models. and, you know, that was e really — models. and, you know, that was e really ceeiiw— models. and, you know, that was a really, really tough task for us. a really, really tough task for nui— a really, really tough task for us. but without— a really, really tough task for us. but without a— a really, really tough task for us. but without a doubt, there's eneec— us. but without a doubt, there's eneec eni— us. but without a doubt, there's anger and frustration and inece-s— anger and frustration and there'slhuge- anger and frustration and there's huge in faith . there's a huge loss in faith. inece— there's a huge loss in faith. inece is— there's a huge loss in faith. there isllot_ there's a huge loss in faith.
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there isllot of— there's a huge loss in faith. there is lot of concern rac there is a lot of concern rac eeuni— there is a lot of concern rac eeuni ine— there is a lot of concern rac around the industry being marginalised— around the industry being marginalised because of alcohol and marginalised because of alcohol ene ieis— marginalised because of alcohol ene ieis ei— marginalised because of alcohol and lots of different sort of eeseninn— and lots of different sort of reasoning behind their coming eeci— reasoning behind their coming ieci icen — reasoning behind their coming back from people. but i mean, i give— back from people. but i mean, i give weu— back from people. but i mean, i give weu e— back from people. but i mean, i give you a type— back from people. but i mean, i give you a type of_ back from people. but i mean, i give you a type of example that our give you a type of example that iniusicw— give you a type of example that iniusicw is— give you a type of example that our industry is facing when we ieii— our industry is facing when we ieii eieui— our industry is facing when we talk about energy— our industry is facing when we talk about energy costs. i had a cnecneic— talk about energy costs. i had a cnecneic .— talk about energy costs. i had a member , one of— talk about energy costs. i had a member , one of our members member, one of our members nnenei— member, one of our members nnenei ne— member, one of our members nnenee ne eni— member, one of our members phoned me and said, look, i weniei— phoned me and said, look, i weniei ie— phoned me and said, look, i weniei ie inw— phoned me and said, look, i wanted to try this out. so he nnenei— wanted to try this out. so he nnenee un— wanted to try this out. so he nnenee un en— wanted to try this out. so he phoned up an energy supplier. he esiei— phoned up an energy supplier. he esiei weuii— phoned up an energy supplier. he asked would they— phoned up an energy supplier. he asked would they supply a pub ? asked would they supply a pub? they— asked would they supply a pub? inew-ves— asked would they supply a pub? inew-ves ei— asked would they supply a pub? they-yes, of course- asked would they supply a pub? they yes, of course . so out they said yes, of course. so out of they said yes, of course. so out ei nenw— they said yes, of course. so out ei nenw ceiis— they said yes, of course. so out of many calls that— they said yes, of course. so out of many calls that he made where nei— of many calls that he made where new ieen— of many calls that he made where he'd been denied— of many calls that he made where he'd been denied and they said, inani— he'd been denied and they said, nieni. ine— he'd been denied and they said, icinni. ine neie— he'd been denied and they said, right, the rate is— he'd been denied and they said, right, the rate is £0.55 per iiieweii— right, the rate is £0.55 per kilowatt hour— right, the rate is £0.55 per kilowatt hour for electric and ms— kilowatt hour for electric and ms iec— kilowatt hour for electric and ms iec e— kilowatt hour for electric and £2.98 for a standing charge . and £2.98 for a standing charge. and he £2.98 for a standing charge. and ne es— £2.98 for a standing charge. and ne iine— £2.98 for a standing charge. and he was like, right,— £2.98 for a standing charge. and he was like, right, okay, let me newe— he was like, right, okay, let me newe e— he was like, right, okay, let me newe e ieei. — he was like, right, okay, let me have a look. ten— he was like, right, okay, let me have a look. ten minutes later, inew— have a look. ten minutes later, inew nnenei— have a look. ten minutes later, they phoned back— have a look. ten minutes later, they phoned back and said, i'm not they phoned back and said, i'm nei e— they phoned back and said, i'm nei e nen— they phoned back and said, i'm nei e nen. ne— they phoned back and said, i'm not a part. he didn't explain. he not a part. he didn't explain. we es— not a part. he didn't explain. we e— not a part. he didn't explain. we e nun— not a part. he didn't explain. he was a pub, he— not a part. he didn't explain. he was a pub, he said, i'm a ceieii— he was a pub, he said, i'm a retail environment and in ten minutes— retail environment and in ten ninuies iine— retail environment and in ten minutes time went down to minutes time it went down to iess— minutes time it went down to iess nec— minutes time it went down to £0.33 per kilowatt hour and ines— £0.33 per kilowatt hour and £1.98 standing— £0.33 per kilowatt hour and £1.98 standing charge. now that cnei— £1.98 standing charge. now that we is— £1.98 standing charge. now that we is ine— £1.98 standing charge. now that we is ine iwne— £1.98 standing charge. now that that is the type of— £1.98 standing charge. now that that is the type of environment cnei— that is the type of environment we we-ce— that is the type of environment that we're faced— that is the type of environment that we're faced with at the cnecneni— that we're faced with at the moment, and— that we're faced with at the moment, and it's this unscrupulous energy providers
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cnei— unscrupulous energy providers we ee— unscrupulous energy providers that are absolutely demonising our that are absolutely demonising iniusicw— that are absolutely demonising our industry and— that are absolutely demonising our industry and they're ieieiiinn— our industry and they're labelling it— our industry and they're labelling it off the back of the ieci— labelling it off the back of the ieci cnei— labelling it off the back of the fact that there _ labelling it off the back of the fact that there is— labelling it off the back of the fact that there is too much cisi. — fact that there is too much cisi. se — fact that there is too much risk. so there— fact that there is too much risk. so there is- fact that there is too much risk. so there is there is work cnei— risk. so there is there is work we neeis— risk. so there is there is work that needs to— risk. so there is there is work that needs to be— risk. so there is there is work that needs to be done through ofgem — that needs to be done through ofgem ie— that needs to be done through ofgem to clarify— that needs to be done through ofgem to clarify the risk neneiiwe— ofgem to clarify the risk narrative that- ofgem to clarify the risk narrative that these energy ncewiiecs— narrative that these energy providers are _ narrative that these energy providers are actually trying to ieiei— providers are actually trying to ieiei eu— providers are actually trying to label our businesses with. neceuse— label our businesses with. because many— label our businesses with. because many of them are, you knew.— because many of them are, you knew. inew-ce — because many of them are, you know, they're surviving, they're icing— know, they're surviving, they're ieinn eiew. — know, they're surviving, they're ieinn eiew. ani— know, they're surviving, they're doing okay. and in the same environment.— doing okay. and in the same environment. so— doing okay. and in the same environment. so many other iniusicies— environment. so many other industries are— environment. so many other industries are ,_ environment. so many other industries are , but we just seem industries are, but we just seem to industries are, but we just seem ie ie— industries are, but we just seem ie ie ei— industries are, but we just seem ie ie ei ine— industries are, but we just seem to be at the tail— industries are, but we just seem to be at the tail end of this. ani— to be at the tail end of this. and inese— to be at the tail end of this. and these energy providers are uiiiising— and these energy providers are uiiiisine ii— and these energy providers are uiiiisine ii ie— and these energy providers are utilising it to really push inese— utilising it to really push these rates— utilising it to really push these rates so, yes , in many these rates up. so, yes, in many wews— these rates up. so, yes, in many wews inece-s— these rates up. so, yes, in many wews inece-s e— these rates up. so, yes, in many ways there's a lot— these rates up. so, yes, in many ways there's a lot of anger, inece-s— ways there's a lot of anger, there's-anger- ways there's a lot of anger, there's anger that the there's a lot of anger that the iniusicw— there's a lot of anger that the industry-vilified- there's a lot of anger that the industry vilified in industry is being vilified in cnei— industry is being vilified in inei-ani— industry is being vilified in that and there's a lot of that way. and there's a lot of nusn— that way. and there's a lot of nusn eeci— that way. and there's a lot of push back-terms- that way. and there's a lot of push back terms of government push back in terms of government not push back in terms of government nei-eneuen— push back in terms of government not-enough-doing- not doing enough and doing inines— not doing enough and doing ininos-wew— not doing enough and doing things-way-late.. not doing enough and doing things way late. liam, things way, way too late. liam, new— things way, way too late. liam, new ie— things way, way too late. liam, new ie weu— things way, way too late. liam, how do you react— things way, way too late. liam, how do you react to that? /i. how do you react to that? you knew.— how do you react to that? you knew. i— how do you react to that? you knew. i ws— how do you react to that? you know, i was suggesting that there was a motive, that it wasn't just, you know, as you were suggesting, hubris and or incompetence. you know , there's incompetence. you know, there's anecdotal but evidence of, you know, a targeting, you know , a
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know, a targeting, you know, a takedown of a certain kind of business. i do think the energy companies are opaque and have got a lot to answer for in the way they treat different businesses differently. i've got a lot of respect for i: i've got a lot of respect for michael mt,— a lot of respect for michael mt, nei— a lot of respect for michael kill, not least— a lot of respect for michael kill, not least because he he enicuieies— kill, not least because he he articulates the _ kill, not least because he he articulates the case for a vital ecei— articulates the case for a vital ecei ei— articulates the case for a vital ecei ei ine — articulates the case for a vital sector of the british economy nesniieiiiw— sector of the british economy nesniieiiiw is— sector of the british economy hospitality is a— sector of the british economy hospitality is a 10th of our ecenecnw— hospitality is a 10th of our economy . it's— hospitality is a 10th of our economy . it's a- hospitality is a 10th of our economy . it's a really, really economy. it's a really, really inneneni— economy. it's a really, really inneneni nen— economy. it's a really, really important part of what we do. ani— important part of what we do. and e— important part of what we do. and e iei— important part of what we do. and e iei ei— important part of what we do. and a lot of the— important part of what we do. and a lot of the a— important part of what we do. and a lot of the a lot of the businesses— and a lot of the a lot of the businesses that— and a lot of the a lot of the businesses that michael and his ceiieenues— businesses that michael and his colleagues represent, businesses that michael and his colleagues represent , they colleagues represent, they newen-i— colleagues represent, they newen-iiusi— colleagues represent, they haven't just had to deal with wew— haven't just had to deal with wecw high— haven't just had to deal with very high energy bills. they've nei— very high energy bills. they've nei ie— very high energy bills. they've nei ie ieei— very high energy bills. they've had to deal with— very high energy bills. they've had to deal with high food ncices— had to deal with high food ncices. i— had to deal with high food prices. i mean,— had to deal with high food prices. i mean, food price iniieiien— prices. i mean, food price inflation was— prices. i mean, food price inflation was still at 18% in ine— inflation was still at 18% in the inflation— inflation was still at 18% in the inflation figures last week. ani— the inflation figures last week. and ei— the inflation figures last week. and of course,— the inflation figures last week. and of course, a— the inflation figures last week. and of course, a lot of the businesses— and of course, a lot of the businesses he's- and of course, a lot of the businesses he's representing are are businesses he's representing are eseucensii— businesses he's representing are are restaurants and pubs that newe— are restaurants and pubs that newe ie— are restaurants and pubs that newe ie iuw— are restaurants and pubs that have to buy that— are restaurants and pubs that have to buy that food before new— have to buy that food before new seii— have to buy that food before new seii ii— have to buy that food before they sell it on. _ have to buy that food before they sell it on. imagine if you knew.— they sell it on. imagine if you knew. ine— they sell it on. imagine if you know, the price— they sell it on. imagine if you know, the price of— they sell it on. imagine if you know, the price of fish and cnins— know, the price of fish and cnins in— know, the price of fish and cnins in e— know, the price of fish and cnins in e nui— know, the price of fish and chips in a pub went up instantly by so.— chips in a pub went up instantly by ze- ine— chips in a pub went up instantly by 20. the punters— chips in a pub went up instantly by 20. the punters wouldn't be too by 20. the punters wouldn't be iee nennw.— by 20. the punters wouldn't be iee nennw. inen— by 20. the punters wouldn't be too happy. then of— by 20. the punters wouldn't be too happy. then of course , too happy. then of course, inew-we— too happy. then of course, inew-we gei— too happy. then of course,
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inew-we nei ie— too happy. then of course, they've got to deal with business— they've got to deal with business rates, taxes on their nceises — business rates, taxes on their nceises ii— business rates, taxes on their premises. if they— business rates, taxes on their premises. if they rent them even ieiece— premises. if they rent them even ieiece inew-we— premises. if they rent them even before they've made any money at all, before they've made any money at eii een— before they've made any money at eii ieiinn— before they've made any money at all, even taking any— before they've made any money at all, even taking any revenue. so cnee— all, even taking any revenue. so inece ee— all, even taking any revenue. so inece ieis— all, even taking any revenue. so there are lots of— all, even taking any revenue. so there are lots of problems for ine— there are lots of problems for the hospitality— there are lots of problems for the hospitality industry and new— the hospitality industry and inew-gei— the hospitality industry and inew-gei enw- the hospitality industry and they get any help with they don't get any help with cnein— they don't get any help with ineic enecnw— they don't get any help with their energy bills. and this wiiei— their energy bills. and this wiiei nen— their energy bills. and this wiiei nen ei— their energy bills. and this vital part of the economy, you knew.— vital part of the economy, you know, government the know, the government says the minimum— know, the government says the minimum-gei- know, the government says the minimum-got to- know, the government says the minimum got to go up. minimum wage has got to go up. inei-s— minimum wage has got to go up. inei-s nice— minimum wage has got to go up. inei-s iec— minimum wage has got to go up. that's nice for workers at the sienn— that's nice for workers at the snecn-nui— that's nice for workers at the sharp-but again,- that's nice for workers at the sharp but again, it's the sharp end. but again, it's the cenies— sharp end. but again, it's the companies that— sharp end. but again, it's the companies that pay that, not the neiiiiciens— companies that pay that, not the politicians, not— companies that pay that, not the politicians, not the— companies that pay that, not the politicians, not the government eni— politicians, not the government and - hospitality _ politicians, not the government and-hospitality-isl and the hospitality industry is wew— and the hospitality industry is very-intensive- and the hospitality industry is very-intensive ,- and the hospitality industry is very intensive , of very labour intensive, of iii-s- very labour intensive, of course. it's amazing that course. so it's amazing that we're not losing— course. so it's amazing that we're not losing more than a ceunie— we're not losing more than a ceunie ei— we're not losing more than a couple of hundred pubs every menin— couple of hundred pubs every nenin-we— couple of hundred pubs every month,-we are.- couple of hundred pubs every month, we are. and for month, though we are. and for ieis— month, though we are. and for ieis ei— month, though we are. and for lots of communities and each business— lots of communities and each business concerned , that's business concerned, that's a iceoeew. — business concerned, that's a iceoeew. ncec— business concerned, that's a tragedy. bear with- business concerned, that's a tragedy. bear with me, liam. tonya, this a this is tonya, this is a this is a sector or an industry that you're you're familiar with in every you know , when you every way. you know, when you when you what is the what are you hearing anecdotally from , you hearing anecdotally from, you hearing anecdotally from, you know, from your people who are industry? are still in that industry? absolutely . i are still in that industry? absolutely. i mean, are still in that industry? absolutely . i mean, one of are still in that industry? - absolutely . i mean, one of the absolutely. i mean, one of the ecnec— absolutely. i mean, one of the einec inines— absolutely. i mean, one of the other things is— absolutely. i mean, one of the other things is it's— absolutely. i mean, one of the other things is it's not anecdotal.— other things is it's not anecdotal. all these low traffic zone areas like— anecdotal. all these low traffic zone areas like what's going on in necinoew— zone areas like what's going on in necinnew ei— zone areas like what's going on in haringey at the—
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zone areas like what's going on in haringey at the moment, or the in haringey at the moment, or inc-wnicn— in haringey at the moment, or the which stopping the ulez, which is stopping neenie— the ulez, which is stopping neenie-ince- the ulez, which is stopping. people-into-area. the ulez, which is stopping- people-into-area. so people coming into the area. so on people coming into the area. so en-ei— people coming into the area. so en-ei icing— people coming into the area. so on-of being taxed- people coming into the area. so on of being taxed and on top of being taxed and nunisnei— on top of being taxed and punished and— on top of being taxed and punished and paying left, right and punished and paying left, right ene-inew-ce— punished and paying left, right and they're doing and centre, they're doing ewecwinino— and centre, they're doing everything they to prevent everything they can to prevent neenie— everything they can to prevent neenie-ince— everything they can to prevent neenie-inie eu- people coming into our businesses— people coming into our businesses ,_ people coming into our businesses , into our businesses, into our restaurants,- businesses, into our restaurants, into our pubs , restaurants, into our pubs, ieceuse— restaurants, into our pubs, because no one- restaurants, into our pubs, because no one wants to pay the uiiz— because no one wants to pay the ma inesc— because no one wants to pay the ulez these low— because no one wants to pay the ulez these low traffic areas are nuiiini— ulez these low traffic areas are nuiiinn un— ulez these low traffic areas are putting up bollards everywhere inew— putting up bollards everywhere inew ee— putting up bollards everywhere they are ruining— putting up bollards everywhere they are ruining hospitality. they— they are ruining hospitality. inew ee— they are ruining hospitality. they are ruining the hub of our secieiw— they are ruining the hub of our secieiw .— they are ruining the hub of our secieiw . ani— they are ruining the hub of our society . and like— they are ruining the hub of our society . and like you, society. and like you, unfortunately for me, it feels iine— unfortunately for me, it feels iiie ii-s— unfortunately for me, it feels iiie is en— unfortunately for me, it feels like it's on purpose because wnece— like it's on purpose because wnece neenie— like it's on purpose because where people get on and feel happy— where people get on and feel happy is_ where people get on and feel nennw is in— where people get on and feel nennw is in e— where people get on and feel happy is in a restaurant, in a pub— happy is in a restaurant, in a nut wnen— happy is in a restaurant, in a pub when they're— happy is in a restaurant, in a pub when they're seeing each eiien— pub when they're seeing each einec. wnw— pub when they're seeing each einec. wnw-we- pub when they're seeing each other. why we have 24 hour other. why don't we have 24 hour iicencing— other. why don't we have 24 hour iicencing-nece— other. why don't we have 24 hour licencing-here in— other. why don't we have 24 hour licencing here in britain licencing laws here in britain cnei— licencing laws here in britain we win— licencing laws here in britain that will promote people that will help promote people going— that will help promote people going-why?- that will help promote people going-why? why- that will help promote people going why? why is it so going out? and why? why is it so iiiiicuii— going out? and why? why is it so difficult-licences- going out? and why? why is it so difficult licences here? difficult to get licences here? t hey— difficult to get licences here? they-everything- difficult to get licences here? they everything they can to they do everything they can to sien — they do everything they can to sienlnewine— they do everything they can to stop having decent stop us having decent hospitality. - stop us having decent hospitality. :: e stop us having decent- hospitality. indeed, it doesn't feel none it feels incomplete feel none of it feels incomplete . patience or hubris just doesn't doesn't cut it enough for me. i think it's the stuff of a bigger conversation that we've run out of time again. liam from liam halligan, michael kill from the hospitality association the time hospitality association , thank you so much for your insight and your your time
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insight and your and your time spent us this evening. spent with us this evening. thanks thank you, thanks both and thank you, tanya, as well. another break, after which we'll be looking at very rare maps. beautiful works of art in their own right, depicting the defeat of the spanish armada. these are set to go on show for just 45 days due to very fragile nature of to the very fragile nature of them. don't go away .
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welcome back . in july, 1588, welcome back. in july, 1588, catholic king philip ii of spain launched an attempted coup to try to get protestant queen elizabeth off the throne of england so that he could sit uponit england so that he could sit upon it himself in the way of the mighty vessels of the spanish waited the spanish fleet, waited the smaller but more manoeuvrable ships the english as ships of the english navy as well bravery, fate to well as english bravery, fate to intervene so that in the end it was a storm that did most to disrupt spanish plans make disrupt spanish plans and make way enduring legend of way for an enduring legend of engush way for an enduring legend of english and maritime history.
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joining me now to consider a wondrous snapshot of some of what unfolded that fabled july in the form of precious and fragile, hand—drawn maps of the drama is professor dominic tweddle , director general of the tweddle, director general of the national museum of the royal navy. thanks for coming in, dominic. absolute pleasure. this had my first glimpse of these maps this afternoon. where have they been ? well, they were owned they been? well, they were owned by wiiiien— they been? well, they were owned by william waldorf— , well, they were owned by william waldorf astor. they ieunni— by william waldorf astor. they ieunni by— by william waldorf astor. they were bought by him in the 19th ceniucw— were bought by him in the 19th ceniucw eni— were bought by him in the 19th century and they— were bought by him in the 19th century and they were held by his century and they were held by nis ieniiw. — century and they were held by nis ieniiw. se— century and they were held by his family. so they've been in nciweie— his family. so they've been in private possession. and before inen— private possession. and before that, we— private possession. and before that, we think— private possession. and before that, we think they've been in nciweie— that, we think they've been in private possession since they neie in— private possession since they were made in the late 16th ceniucw— were made in the late 16th ceniucw. inew— were made in the late 16th century. they were looking they ieeiine— century. they were looking they were looking at— century. they were looking they were looking at them now and inew— were looking at them now and new ee— were looking at them now and they are they're— were looking at them now and they are they're works of eeineceei— they are they're works of aethereal beauty. i would say inew— aethereal beauty. i would say inew ee— aethereal beauty. i would say they are extra— aethereal beauty. i would say they are extra ordinary. they ine— they are extra ordinary. they are the first— they are extra ordinary. they are the first maps that tell the siew— are the first maps that tell the siew ei— are the first maps that tell the siew ei en— are the first maps that tell the story of an entire— are the first maps that tell the story of an entire military cenneinn— story of an entire military cenneinn en— story of an entire military campaign on and they take you innuen— campaign on and they take you inceuen ii— campaign on and they take you inceunn in just— campaign on and they take you through it just as— campaign on and they take you through it just as a modern iewecieini— through it just as a modern powerpoint presentation would do . inis— powerpoint presentation would do . inis is— powerpoint presentation would do we is wnei— powerpoint presentation would do . this is what happened. then ine— . this is what happened. then we nesi— . this is what happened. then the next thing— . this is what happened. then the next thing happened and we newe—
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the next thing happened and we newe ine— the next thing happened and we have the written— the next thing happened and we have the written report that gees— have the written report that nees witn— have the written report that goes with them. _ have the written report that goes with them. so the two wings— goes with them. so the two ininns wew— goes with them. so the two things work together . so they're things work together. so they're wew— things work together. so they're wecw inew-ce — things work together. so they're wecw inew-ce wecw— things work together. so they're very they're very modern in cenceni. — very they're very modern in concept. they're— very they're very modern in concept. they're quite extraordinary . “ concept. they're quite- extraordinary. is this in the way of things at that time? was there an appetite for a powerpoint as it were, presentation that let people see what had unfolded during the course of a battle? well, i think course of a battle? well, i inini inis— course of a battle? well, i think this is— course of a battle? well, i think this is a— course of a battle? well, i think this is a new- iiiiti. , well, i think this is a new idea that inece— think this is a new idea that inece nei— think this is a new idea that there had been— think this is a new idea that there had been maps, there had ieen— there had been maps, there had been nens— there had been maps, there had been nens ei— there had been maps, there had been maps of individual battles . nui— been maps of individual battles . nui inis— been maps of individual battles . but this was— been maps of individual battles . but this was the— been maps of individual battles . but this was the first time a cenneinn— . but this was the first time a cenneinn nei— . but this was the first time a campaign had been depicted . and campaign had been depicted. and i campaign had been depicted. and iinini— campaign had been depicted. and i inini ine— campaign had been depicted. and i think the english— campaign had been depicted. and i think the english commander, iece— i think the english commander, iece neweci— i think the english commander, lord howard of— i think the english commander, lord howard of effingham , lord howard of effingham, eciueiiw— lord howard of effingham, actually set— lord howard of effingham, actually set out to do this . he actually set out to do this. he iieugii— actually set out to do this. he ineunni. i-we— actually set out to do this. he thought, i've got— actually set out to do this. he thought, i've got queen elizabeth. _ thought, i've got queen elizabeth. i— thought, i've got queen elizabeth. i need to brief her. i elizabeth. i need to brief her. i neee— elizabeth. i need to brief her. i need ie— elizabeth. i need to brief her. i need to show— elizabeth. i need to brief her. i need to show her how marvellous— i need to show her how marvellous i've been and how wiciecieus— marvellous i've been and how wiciecieus eni— marvellous i've been and how victorious and how do i get her eiieniien— victorious and how do i get her eiieniien iec— victorious and how do i get her attention for 10s— victorious and how do i get her attention for 10s right. i'll attention for10s right. i'll siew— attention for10s right. i'll snew nec— attention for10s right. i'll show her the— attention for 10s right. i'll show her the maps. and i think inei-s— show her the maps. and i think inei-s wnei— show her the maps. and i think that's what he— show her the maps. and i think that's what he was— show her the maps. and i think that's what he was intending. it's that's what he was intending. is e— that's what he was intending. it's a wonderfully. “ it's a wonderfully. i love when things give us a sense that people 500 years ago were thinking along the same lines as us. no i don't. it was able to use an expression like
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powerpoint, and you instantly get what's going on there. but also, you know, it's the gi gi “g but also, you know, it's the same as wnen— also, you know, it's the same as now when we're using imagery to get now when we're using imagery to nei neenie-s— now when we're using imagery to get people's attention. you inew— get people's attention. you inewlweni— get people's attention. you know,.went in- get people's attention. you know, went in his get people's attention. you- know,.went in-his maps know, he went in with his maps to know, he went in with his maps ie-eiieniien— know, he went in with his maps to attention quickly. to get her attention quickly. ani— to get her attention quickly. and-fascinating- to get her attention quickly. and fascinating thing. jiiti and it's fascinating thing. do we ie— and it's fascinating thing. do we cue-inni— and it's fascinating thing. do we do .think she- and it's fascinating thing. do we do .think she ever- and it's fascinating thing. jiii we do we think she ever saw them? i'm not sure she ever did. they— them? i'm not sure she ever did. inew-inieniei— them? i'm not sure she ever did. they-intendedlget- them? i'm not sure she ever did. they-intendedlget her. they were intended to get her eiieniien— they were intended to get her attention. _she- they were intended to get her attention. she looked at attention. maybe she looked at inen — attention. maybe she looked at inen lies.— attention. maybe she looked at inenlios. nui— attention. maybe she looked at them .10s. but i— attention. maybe she looked at them 10s. but i think she them for 10s. but i think she euiie— them for 10s. but i think she was quite interested in having her was quite interested in having nec nenceii— was quite interested in having her portrait painted as the ceneuecine— her portrait painted as the conquering sovereign with the ecneie— conquering sovereign with the armada sinking— conquering sovereign with the armada sinking in the background . ne— armada sinking in the background . iie inew— armada sinking in the background . on new nice— armada sinking in the background . on new give us— armada sinking in the background . do they give us more- . do they give us more information ? do they tell us information? do they tell us anything we didn't previously know about the spanish armada? they actually four fs onto our attention how organised the engush attention how organised the english were. there's a kind of nwin— english were. there's a kind of nwin inei-s— english were. there's a kind of myth that's grown— english were. there's a kind of myth that's grown up- “g there's a kind of myth that's grown up that the snenisn— myth that's grown up that the snenisn wee— myth that's grown up that the spanish were very organised and iisciniinei— spanish were very organised and disciplined and— spanish were very organised and disciplined and brave, and they ieni— disciplined and brave, and they ieni cnein— disciplined and brave, and they kept their formation and they seiiei— kept their formation and they sailed-channel- kept their formation and they sailed channel and the sailed up the channel and the ineiisn— sailed up the channel and the ineiisn-nei— sailed up the channel and the english not terribly english were not terribly eiieciiwe. — english were not terribly effective. i— english were not terribly effective. i when you look at ine— effective. i when you look at we nens.— effective. i when you look at we mapsc ii— effective. i when you look at the maps, it strikes you that cnei— the maps, it strikes you that we is— the maps, it strikes you that we is nei— the maps, it strikes you that that is not true— the maps, it strikes you that that is not true ,_ the maps, it strikes you that that is not true , that there was that is not true, that there was an that is not true, that there was en eiseiuieiw— that is not true, that there was an absolutely clear plan of cenneion— an absolutely clear plan of campaign that— an absolutely clear plan of campaign that the english fleet inew— campaign that the english fleet inew execiiw— campaign that the english fleet knew exactly what it was trying
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to knew exactly what it was trying ie ie — knew exactly what it was trying ie ie ene — knew exactly what it was trying ie ie end i— knew exactly what it was trying to do and it did.— knew exactly what it was trying to do and it did. it— knew exactly what it was trying to do and it did. it but they've ieen— to do and it did. it but they've been iucnei— to do and it did. it but they've been turned into— to do and it did. it but they've been turned into kind of oeiieni— been turned into kind of gallant. but— been turned into kind of gallant. but lucky winners. and i gallant. but lucky winners. and i een-i— gallant. but lucky winners. and i een-i inini— gallant. but lucky winners. and i don't think it— gallant. but lucky winners. and i don't think it was luck at eii— i don't think it was luck at eii. weu— i don't think it was luck at all. you don't— i don't think it was luck at all. you don't think they reverse engineered it? ' reverse engineered it? a seuencee ei— reverse engineered it? a sequence of events- reverse engineered it? a sequence of events unfold did and he had maps commissioned that made it look like that was his plan. all of that is a nessiiiiiiw. — “ elli?" all of that is a possibility. certainly “ jet“ all of that is a possibility. certainly is a nessiiiiiiw. — possibility. certainly is a possibility. certainly is a possibility. i possibility. but actually, i think when you look at the evidence, yes, he's probably tidied things up a bit. but i think that's what happened. it's a fabulous insight because i mean, i know from reading about, say , nelson and he said once you say, nelson and he said once you get into things in a battle, i can tell you all i can beforehand , but it's gonna beforehand, but it's gonna unfold the way it unfolds . and, unfold the way it unfolds. and, you know, and tyson . mike tyson you know, and tyson. mike tyson ieneusiw— you know, and tyson. mike tyson ieneusiw sein— you know, and tyson. mike tyson famously said, everyone's got a nien— famously said, everyone's got a nieniinew— famously said, everyone's got a nieniinew-e— famously said, everyone's got a plan-they-a punch- famously said, everyone's got a plan they a punch in plan till they get a punch in ine— plan till they get a punch in we newn— plan till they get a punch in the mouth. absolutely once these ieiiies— the mouth. absolutely once these ieiiies sien— the mouth. absolutely once these battles start out,— the mouth. absolutely once these battles start out, all hell iceeis— battles start out, all hell breaks loose— battles start out, all hell breaks loose almost literally. ani— breaks loose almost literally. and its— breaks loose almost literally. and is just— breaks loose almost literally. and it's just so— breaks loose almost literally. and it's just so human to see someone being— and it's just so human to see someone being determined to make
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a someone being determined to make e cececn— someone being determined to make e ecene ei— someone being determined to make a record of what— someone being determined to make a record of what at— someone being determined to make a record of what at least he ineunni— a record of what at least he thought happened . e thought happened. it is. but he was determined to make a record because he wanted to write history. he wanted to show the queen that he had done a fantastic job. and he did fetch up lord howard of effingham fetched up as the earl of nottingham. so actually it worked in quite, quite a good way. we're where can people see them for these 45 days so the maps are on display at portsmouth historic dockyard and they the exhibition is free although you pay to come into the dockyard and there on display for 45 days because they're very vulnerable all to light. so we have a light budget that we can expend and then once that's expended , the shutter that's expended, the shutter comes down and they go back into a box until next time. and what size are a box until next time. and what inew— a box until next time. and what new i— a box until next time. and what size are they if they— a box until next time. and what size are they if they were- a. a “nix. e and what size are they if they were on inis— size are they if they were on inis ieiie— size are they if they were on this table in— size are they if they were on this table in front of us, are inew— this table in front of us, are new wnei— this table in front of us, are they what they're dimensions? inew-ce— they what they're dimensions? inew-ce seci— they what they're dimensions? inew-ce sen ei— they what they're dimensions? they're sort of a3— they what they're dimensions? they're sort of a3 size. - they what they're dimensions? they're sort of a3 size. so, so they're so they're actually reasonably sizeable and they show in actually quite minute detail some of the events. i'm
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going to have to jump- detail some of the events. i'm going to have to jump in- going to have to jump in there just— going to have to jump in there iusi ieceuse— going to have to jump in there just because of— going to have to jump in there just because of time. thank you, peninic— just because of time. thank you, dominic tweddle,— just because of time. thank you, dominic tweddle, for coming in. i dominic tweddle, for coming in. i weuii— dominic tweddle, for coming in. i weuii iewe— dominic tweddle, for coming in. i would love to— dominic tweddle, for coming in. i would love to see— dominic tweddle, for coming in. i would love to see these in the iiesn. — i would love to see these in the iiesn. inenis— i would love to see these in the flesh. thanks for— i would love to see these in the flesh. thanks for watching ceneni— flesh. thanks for watching tonight._next| flesh. thanks for watching- tonight._next week. tonight. i'll be back next week. ineni— tonight. i'll be back next week. ineni-ienwe.— tonight. i'll be back next week. thank-tonya,-been- thank you. tonya, it's been ieweiw—eeeinl thank you. tonya, it's been- lovely_again. coming lovely to have you again. coming up, lovely to have you again. coming un. ii-s— lovely to have you again. coming un. ii-s ceiwin— lovely to have you again. coming up, it's calvin robinson with inese— up, it's calvin robinson with these common— up, it's calvin robinson with these common sense crusade. bye for these common sense crusade. bye iec—vecw- these common sense crusade. bye iec—vecw good. for now. hello there. very good evening. — for now. hello there. very good evening. in— for now. hello there. very good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here news here with your latest gb news weather provided by the weather forecast provided by the met we have a rather met office we have a rather humid and muggy night ahead of us. we've got pressure to us. we've got low pressure to the northwest of the high the northwest of the uk, high pressure the south—east. but pressure to the south—east. but between we feeding in between that we are feeding in some really quite hot and humid conditions in that southwesterly airflow. going to feel airflow. so really going to feel quite sticky for a lot of us as we head throughout the night. rather uncomfortable for sleeping . most of will stay sleeping. most of us will stay dry , though, with some clear dry, though, with some clear intervals. the outer hebrides just a glancing blow of just getting a glancing blow of some showers some perhaps heavy showers and far of northern ireland, far west of northern ireland, seeing rain towards seeing a little rain towards dawn sunday morning. but look dawn on sunday morning. but look at those temperatures holding up around a lot of around 18 celsius in a lot of towns and the cities really quite a warm to sunday quite a warm start to sunday morning . a bright one for
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morning. a bright one for england, wales and scotland. but we're going to as this we're going to watch as this rain in from the west, rain pushes in from the west, providing some heavy outbreaks for ireland then for northern ireland and then eventually of western eventually into parts of western scotland, england and scotland, northern england and northern well. chances northern wales as well. chances of developing of some thunderstorms developing along as as ahead of along this as well as ahead of it for eastern england and scotland provide some scotland could provide some torrential downpours rain and torrential downpours of rain and hail ahead of that in the south, staying but staying dry air, but temperatures still up into the 30 degrees of celsius . really 30 degrees of celsius. really quite hot, sticky day here. quite a hot, sticky day here. that rain then clears its way off fruit sunday evening. we'll take a little bit of time before eventually parts the eventually leaving parts of the northern isles behind that, though, start changing though, our winds start changing to a westerly direction to more of a westerly direction and that's going to feed in some slightly air. slightly fresher air. so temperatures a little bit lower come sunday night and more comfortable for sleeping around 12 to 14 c. the new working week then starts off on a bright and sunny note for many of us. into the afternoon, we'll start to see some showers bubbling up, primarily across the northern half of the uk, parts of southern wales central southern wales into central southern wales into central
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