his troops. seb his troops . seb gorka updated his troops. seb gorka wagner is what— updated his troops. seb gorka wagner is what they- e. 3: " seb gorka wagner is what they wanted. wagner— wagner is what they wanted. wagner group— wagner is what they wanted. wagner group to— wagner is what they wanted. wagner group to be- wagner is what they wanted. wagner group to be dismissed. on june the 23rd, we went out for the march of justice over the last 24 hours, we have advanced short of 200km to moscow. we didn't spill a drop of blood of our fighters on the way. now it's a moment when blood could be spilled . we understand the be spilled. we understand the responsibility for russian blood could possibly be spilled on each side. that is why we are turning our columns and heading back to our summer camps as it was planned . well, ukraine's was planned. well, ukraine's president— was planned. well, ukraine's president ,— was planned. well, ukraine's president , vladimir- : well, ukraine's president , vladimir zelenskyy, president, vladimir zelenskyy, says— president, vladimir zelenskyy, eeyethe— president, vladimir zelenskyy, says the rebellion exposed complete— says the rebellion exposed complete chaos in the country, showing— complete chaos in the country, showing hinckley. : complete chaos in the country, showing hinckley. 2 35. showing hinckley. today is a day when— showing hinckley. today is a day when there definitely should not be silence . and we definitely be silence. and we definitely need leadership . today, the need leadership. today, the world saw that the bosses of russia do not control anything, nothing at all. complete chaos, complete absence of any predictability. and it is

happening on russian territory , happening on russian territory, which is fully loaded with weapons in other news tonight, police in canada are taking initial steps to assess whether they will launch a full criminal investigation into the titan submersible. if investigation into the titan submersible . if you're watching submersible. if you're watching on television— submersible. if you're watching on television ,_ submersible. if you're watching on television , you— submersible. if you're watching on television , you can- if you're watching on television , you can now see on television, you can now see live— on television, you can now see live pictures— on television, you can now see rrre preruree ef— on television, you can now see live pictures of saint john's harbour. — live pictures of saint john's harbour. that's— live pictures of saint john's harbour. that's where the investigation— harbour. that's where the investigation is currently raking— investigation is currently rekrrrg prece— investigation is currently taking place. it's on the polar prince— taking place. it's on the polar prince vessel— taking place. it's on the polar prince vessel that— taking place. it's on the polar prince vessel that arrived back at prince vessel that arrived back er rhe— prince vessel that arrived back at the harbour— prince vessel that arrived back at the harbour earlier today wm.— at the harbour earlier today with tie— at the harbour earlier today with the transportation safety territ— with the transportation safety board et— with the transportation safety board of canada— with the transportation safety board of canada is interviewing titte— board of canada is interviewing tteee wire— board of canada is interviewing those who were— board of canada is interviewing those who were on— board of canada is interviewing those who were on board the strip,— those who were on board the strip, writt— those who were on board the ship, which lost— those who were on board the ship, which lost contact with tie— ship, which lost contact with tie titer. — ship, which lost contact with the titan. inspectors say the investigation _ the titan. inspectors say the investigation could take up to two— investigation could take up to two years. — investigation could take up to two we ite— investigation could take up to two years. the princess of wales tee— two years. the princess of wales tee eerie— two years. the princess of wales tree gone up— two years. the princess of wales has gone up against tennis etempiew— has gone up against tennis champion roger federer on a wet— champion roger federer on a wieit te— champion roger federer on a wieit to e— champion roger federer on a visit to a london— champion roger federer on a visit to a london tennis centre, tete— visit to a london tennis centre, tete teet— visit to a london tennis centre, tete teet pert— visit to a london tennis centre, kate took part in— visit to a london tennis centre, kate took part in a— visit to a london tennis centre, kate took part in a doubles reiiw— kate took part in a doubles reiiw witt— kate took part in a doubles rally with the _ kate took part in a doubles rally with the 20 time men's eiweiee— rally with the 20 time men's eirrgiee greet— rally with the 20 time men's singles grand slam winner. they wetting— singles grand slam winner. they were visiting a— singles grand slam winner. they were visiting a training session for were visiting a training session ter eerie— were visiting a training session ter et— were visiting a training session ter et tire— were visiting a training session for some of the young hopefuls eimiwe— for some of the young hopefuls eimiwe te— for some of the young hopefuls eimiwg to te— for some of the young hopefuls

aiming to be chosen for the erewwt— aiming to be chosen for the erewwt zeo— aiming to be chosen for the around 250 ball— aiming to be chosen for the around 250 ball boy and girl reiee— around 250 ball boy and girl reiee during— around 250 ball boy and girl roles during the— around 250 ball boy and girl roles during the wimbledon championships. _ roles during the wimbledon championships. next month . tv championships. next month. tv entire— championships. next month. tv eniine nett— championships. next month. tv online dab+ radio and on tunein . inte— online dab+ radio and on tunein . itie te— online dab+ radio and on tunein . itie ie en— online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is gb news.— online dab+ radio and on tunein . this is gb news. now time for weetiinere— . this is gb news. now time for weetiinere .— headliners. hello and welcome to weetiinere. — headliners. hello and welcome to headliners. your— headliners. hello and welcome to headliners. your first— headliners. hello and welcome to headliners. 42». 2 �*" headliners. your first look at sunday's papers with me andrew doyle and my delightful comedian panel made up tonight of steve allen and headliners first timer, nicholas de santo. welcome to the show, nicholas. thank you. how are you feeling about it.7 very excited. i was about it? very excited. i was a bit about it? very excited. i was a tit werriet— about it? very excited. i was a bit worried because— fl very excited. i was a bit worried because according to grete— bit worried because according to greta thunberg,_ bit worried because according to greta thunberg, the world had to end newne— greta thunberg, the world had to end maybe potentially five days ego. — end maybe potentially five days ego. ee— end maybe potentially five days ego. so when— end maybe potentially five days ago. so when martin called me ent— ago. so when martin called me end—te- ago. so when martin called me ent—te zrtiw- ago. so when martin called me and—do 24th? |. ago. so when martin called me. and—do 24th.7 i was and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i we— and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i net— and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i was not sure. _ and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i was not sure. you— and said, can you do 24th.7 i was i was not sure. v/rzzr. 2 2 " c i was not sure. you didn't think it was going to happen because like mother shipton, she's always tell me about always right. tell me about it. absolutely. are you

absolutely. steve, how are you feeling today? i didn't think wett— feeling today? i didn't think weii, i— feeling today? i didn't think well, i thought— feeling today? i didn't think well, i thought the- ”iii; g 2“ i didn't think well, i thought the world was going— well, i thought the world was going-in— well, i thought the world was going-in zon- well, i thought the world was going in 2012 when the going to end in 2012 when the iiewene—eineel mayans predicted it. so since trien— mayans predicted it. so since then-reeiiw— mayans predicted it. so since then,-really had- mayans predicted it. so since then, really had not a lot then, i've really had not a lot in ewerwtning— then, i've really had not a lot in everything that we're experiencing— in everything that we're experiencing as experiencing now is a bonus, as far experiencing now is a bonus, as tereeneerne-t - experiencing now is a bonus, as far concerned. ' “g far as i'm concerned. anyway, we're going start by having a we're going to start by having a look at the front pages for sunday. mail on sunday sunday. so the mail on sunday is leading putin bribe leading with did putin bribe coup leader quit russia coup leader to quit russia sunday wagner sunday telegraph has wagner mutineers after mutineers turned back after striking deal with putin? the express russia on the brink. express has russia on the brink. you can see real theme you can see a real theme emerging here on the front covers sunday's mirror. putin emerging here on the front covepushediay's mirror. putin emerging here on the front covepushed to�*s mirror. putin emerging here on the front covepushed to the irror. putin emerging here on the front covepushed to the brink )utin emerging here on the front covepushed to the brink and the win pushed to the brink and the sunday times. has putin humiliated by mutiny. and the daily star is also running with the russia story. putin in the teet— the russia story. putin in the boot in— the russia story. putin in the boot in ent— the russia story. putin in the boot in and those— t putin in the boot in and those were your trent— boot in and those were your trent negee— boot in and those were your trent negee .— boot in and those were your trent negee . — boot in and those were your front pages . all- boot in and those were your front pages. 2g boot in and those were your front pages . 2g boot in and those were your front pages. 232 front pages. all right. so it's one of those days where most of the front covers are doing the same story. it is, of course, russia. we're going to start with the mail on sunday hey, steve, you've been looking at this yeah, as say, they this one. yeah, as you say, they all this one. yeah, as you say, they eit newe— this one. yeah, as you say, they all have these— yeah, as you say, they

all have these headlines about wwtineere— all have these headlines about mutineers turning back after etritine— mutineers turning back after etritine-se- mutineers turning back after striking-so this- mutineers turning back after striking so this deal striking a deal. so this deal ineiwtee— striking a deal. so this deal includes your— striking a deal. so this deal includes your main leader needing— includes your main leader heading—beenl heading to belarus, been agreed by heading to belarus, been agreed tw—triwe- heading to belarus, been agreedi by_prime minister by the belarusian prime minister nreeitent— by the belarusian prime minister nreeitent-tne- by the belarusian prime minister president-the for- by the belarusian prime minister president the for the president and also the for the peopler— president and also the for the peopler tne— president and also the for the people, the forces of these mercenaries— people, the forces of these mercenaries avoiding . i mean, it mercenaries avoiding. i mean, it eewe— mercenaries avoiding. i mean, it eewe in— mercenaries avoiding. i mean, it eewe in tire— mercenaries avoiding. i mean, it eewe in tire tiring— mercenaries avoiding. i mean, it says in the thing like legal ramifications— says in the thing like legal ramifications right . but says in the thing like legal ramifications right. but being titted,— ramifications right. but being tittet, i— ramifications right. but being killed, i imagine would have teen— killed, i imagine would have been tne— killed, i imagine would have been the legal— killed, i imagine would have been the legal ramification. you went— been the legal ramification. you wewit newe— been the legal ramification. you would have thought that with the tint— would have thought that with the tint et— would have thought that with the tint et twrent— would have thought that with the kind of tyrant like— would have thought that with the kind of tyrant like putin, that went— kind of tyrant like putin, that would probably— kind of tyrant like putin, that would probably the result would probably be the result treet— would probably be the result wet-wett— would probably be the result that wait, prigozhin is that said, wait, prigozhin is being— that said, wait, prigozhin is being-te— that said, wait, prigozhin is being to belarus? being sent to belarus? is that as being sent to belarus? is that ee-et— being sent to belarus? is that ee-et tne— being sent to belarus? is that as-of the deal— being sent to belarus? is that as of the deal that he as part of the deal that he doesn't to face any doesn't have to face any criminal right actions what criminal right actions for what happened it's happened today? i mean, it's been-interesting- happened today? i mean, it's been-interesting short- 2 2“ i mean, it's been interesting short spell. been an interesting short spell. i is been an interesting short spell. i—ie pert— been an interesting short spell. i—ie nertlwnw- been an interesting short spell. i_is part-why this i mean, this is part of why this is i mean, this is part of why this ieltit— i mean, this is part of why this ieltit en— i mean, this is part of why this is bit an interesting day. so is a bit an interesting day. so it teet— is a bit an interesting day. so it took tite— is a bit an interesting day. so it took this wagner group seven wentne— it took this wagner group seven wentneltete— it took this wagner group seven months-take over— it took this wagner group seven months take over one months to take over the one wiiiterw— months to take over the one wiiiterw win— months to take over the one military win in— months to take over the one military win in ukraine. and yet within—thew- military win in ukraine. and yet within they started within a few hours, they started to within a few hours, they started tee-eewe— within a few hours, they started te-eewe geot— within a few hours, they started to some good headway into to make some good headway into tweete— to make some good headway into itweeie. inte— to make some good headway into itweeie. itie ie— to make some good headway into russia. this is going to play reeiiw— russia. this is going to play reeiiw-ter— russia. this is going to play really for morale russia. this is going to play. really-for-morale of really badly for the morale of the really badly for the morale of tire itweeien— really badly for the morale of the russian mean good, it's going— the russian mean good, it's going to— the russian mean good, it's going to to— the russian mean good, it's going to do this.— the russian mean good, it's going to do this. but the itweeien— going to do this. but the russian soldiers imagine finding out—absolutely. - russian soldiers imagine finding out 2r::;2r:i;~;frg 2g ;olutely. russian soldiers imagine finding out 2g zly. russian soldiers imagine finding out.interesting one, isn't- it's an interesting one, isn't it, because you know, it, nicholas? because you know, witiweteiw— it, nicholas? because you know, witiweteiw we— it, nicholas? because you know, ultimately we have— it, nicholas? because you know, ultimately we have this- ultimately we have this eitwetion— ultimately we have this. situation _this situation where, well, this is good — situation where, well, this is

good—tent- good for ukraine, isn't it? neoweee— good for ukraine, isn't it? because-got- good for ukraine, isn't it? because got prigozhin, because you've got prigozhin, wow-we— because you've got prigozhin, wow-we-tne— because you've got prigozhin, you've the mercenaries you've got the mercenaries turning— you've got the mercenaries turning-other- you've got the mercenaries turning other russians. turning on other russians. and my turning on other russians. and moi—is- turning on other russians. and ww—ie-niel my understanding is that his treet— my understanding is that his tnet—ween-tl that prigozhin's beef wasn't witn— that prigozhin's beef wasn't with-wee- that prigozhin's beef wasn't with -was with - that prigozhin's beef wasn't with was with the with putin. it was with the wiiiterw— with putin. it was with the military leaders the that military leaders in the way that the military leaders in the way that tire wer— military leaders in the way that tire wee— military leaders in the way that the war was being _ military leaders in the way that the war was being run. neeioetiw. — the war was being run. basically, v413?“ the war was being run. basically. / titanifi the war was being run. basically. v423 2 iifikirfifwcg rz; the war was being run.- basically. yeah, exactly. he was very criticising very heavily criticising the russian ministry of defence and the ministry defence . s the ministry of defence. s zahawi yes, he said actually his declared aim and his convoy marching toward is advancing towards moscow was to get those people in the in the russian mod and punish them because they had been complaining for a long time that they had a hard time in ukraine because they were not properly supported in terms of ammunition. and they even accused ministry of accused the russian ministry of defence of bombarding their forces does. forces right. but it does. i mean,-reminds- forces right. but it does. i mean,-reminds youi forces right. but it does. i- mean,-reminds you never mean, it just reminds you never to treet— mean, it just reminds you never to trust mercenaries, right? ween. — to trust mercenaries, right? ween. lteeie— to trust mercenaries, right? yeah. .feels like- to trust mercenaries, right? yeah. .feels like you- yeah. it feels like you shouldn't if shouldn't be surprised if they're because there they're not loyal because there should a to describe should be a word to describe someone who's mercenary. oh, wait there go. wait a minute. there we go. business all it was business card. all along, it was obviously going to go badly. but we're going to move on to enotner— but we're going to move on to another-sticking- but we're going to move on to another sticking with another story. sticking with tweete— another story. sticking with itweeie-so - another story. sticking with russia,-so on - another story. sticking with- russia,-so on .front russia, though. so on the front ot— russia, though. so on the front cover of-sunday- russia, though. so on the front cover of sunday express, cover of the sunday express, wiot, — cover of the sunday express, wiot, -twew- cover of the sunday express,- nick, -they -with? nick, what are they going with?

wet. — well, well, we've got a beautiful image of princess of wales playing tennis. nothing to do russia. wales playing tennis. nothing to do-russia. she's— wales playing tennis. nothing to do-russia. she's not- do with russia. she's not inwoiwet. — do with russia. she's not involved. she's- do with russia. she's not involved. do with russia. she's not- involved. she's not one of the mercenaries. but we should understandably, arussia understandably, in a russia heavy day, they have gone visually that picture. visually with with that picture. yes, just heard about it in yes, we just heard about it in tire— yes, we just heard about it in tire newe— yes, we just heard about it in the news. but— yes, we just heard about it in the news. but russia on the egg,— the news. but russia on the brink, obviously— the news. but russia on the brink, obviously , heard it's brink, obviously, we heard it's a humiliating— brink, obviously, we heard it's a humiliating move . it's been a a humiliating move. it's been a iwwiiieting— a humiliating move. it's been a humiliating 24— a humiliating move. it's been a humiliating 24 hours for the itweeien— humiliating 24 hours for the russian president and, of course, western media are course, now western media are epeowteting— course, now western media are speculating about— course, now western media are speculating about dissent , which speculating about dissent, which is speculating about dissent, which ie to— speculating about dissent, which ie to te— speculating about dissent, which ie to te teten— speculating about dissent, which is to be taken with— speculating about dissent, which is to be taken with a pinch of eeit. — is to be taken with a pinch of eeit. te— is to be taken with a pinch of eeit. ie it— is to be taken with a pinch of salt. is it because- is to be taken with a pinch of salt. g 2 is to be taken with a pinch of salt. g g salt. is it because you don't think his is up? i mean, think his time is up? i mean, this kind of thing does shake his authority somewhat, doesn't it? whole it? because the whole thing about shtick is that about putin's shtick is that he's the big man. he wrestles with he can't with bears. you know, he can't be be outgunned. but be he can't be outgunned. but this looks kind of bad for him, doesn't it? but can he not, as i eewing— doesn't it? but can he not, as i was saying, blame— doesn't it? but can he not, as i was saying, blame it— 2 g fl but can he not, as i was saying, blame it on on the iiinietrw— was saying, blame it on on the iiinietrw ot— was saying, blame it on on the ministry of defence, because trigoznin— ministry of defence, because itrigoznin-werw- ministry of defence, because prigozhin very careful not ministry of defence, because priaccuse very careful not ministry of defence, because priaccuse putin ery careful not ministry of defence, because priaccuse putin himself.jl not ministry of defence, because priaccuse putin himself. andt to accuse putin himself. and witiweteiw— to accuse putin himself. and ultimately he— to accuse putin himself. and ultimately he might have been oerewetet— ultimately he might have been perenetet tw— ultimately he might have been persuaded by the belarussian nreeitent— persuaded by the belarussian preeitent to— persuaded by the belarussian president to leave because he reeiieet— president to leave because he realised that— president to leave because he realised that putin came out and oeitet— realised that putin came out and oeitet it— realised that putin came out and oeitet it e— realised that putin came out and called it a stab— realised that putin came out and called it a stab in— realised that putin came out and

called it a stab in the back. vee— called it a stab in the back. wee so— called it a stab in the back. yes so ultimately putin can say, you— yes so ultimately putin can say, wow know,— yes so ultimately putin can say, wow wow, it— yes so ultimately putin can say, you know, it was— yes so ultimately putin can say, you know, it was beef between wegner— you know, it was beef between wegner ent— you know, it was beef between wagner and the— you know, it was beef between wagner and the ministry of detenoe— wagner and the ministry of detenoe .— wagner and the ministry of defence . yes.— wagner and the ministry of defence . yes. and he was he defence. yes. and he was he otewet— defence. yes. and he was he played tire— defence. yes. and he was he played the super parties. so toes— played the super parties. so toes retin— played the super parties. so does putin still— played the super parties. so does putin still have- played the super parties. so does putin still have the confidence of the ministry of defence? i mean, this is the thing. like all leaders need to have army on their side, have their army on their side, don't and to look don't they? yeah. and to look nowertwi— don't they? yeah. and to look powerful-strong,- 2 2 g sign? yeah. and to look powerful strong, especially powerful and strong, especially when— powerful and strong, especially when wow— powerful and strong, especially when wow ere— powerful and strong, especially when you are strongman leader. when you are a strongman leader. ant— when you are a strongman leader. ant-one— when you are a strongman leader. ant-one ot— when you are a strongman leader. ant-one ot tire— when you are a strongman leader. and one of the problems and i think one of the problems treet— and i think one of the problems we wont— and i think one of the problems we wont te— and i think one of the problems that won't be addressed here is treet— that won't be addressed here is wet-wegner— that won't be addressed here is that wagner telegram that won't be addressed here is that i wagner telegram that won't be addressed here is that i don'tagner telegram that won't be addressed here is that i don't fully telegram that won't be addressed here is that i don't fully understand group, i don't fully understand now—tneee- group, i don't fully understand. how—these things. how one can access these things. out— how one can access these things. net-wee— how one can access these things. net-wee eewing- how one can access these things. but was saying you've but prigozhin was saying you've teen— but prigozhin was saying you've teen-to. — but prigozhin was saying you've teen-to. inte— but prigozhin was saying you've been-to. this-not- but prigozhin was saying you've been .to. this-not a - but prigozhin was saying you've been to. this not a war been lied to. this is not a war treet— been lied to. this is not a war the wee— been lied to. this is not a war that was done— been lied to. this is not a war that was done in— been lied to. this is not a war that was done in defence acas onene— that was done in defence acas ukraine. we're— that was done in defence acas ukraine. we're about to ukraine. we're not about to etteot— ukraine. we're not about to etteotiso— ukraine. we're not about to attack - so .fact - ukraine. we're not about to attack so fact that then attack us. so the fact that then the attack us. so the fact that then tire-teet— attack us. so the fact that then tie-teei ie— attack us. so the fact that then. the-deal is-goes the now the deal is he just goes to enotwer— the now the deal is he just goes to another country— the now the deal is he just goes to another country and kind of week— to another country and kind of oreotelwitn— to another country and kind of cracks .with-life.- to another country and kind of cracks-with-life. it- cracks on with his life. it wetee— cracks on with his life. it makes putin— cracks on with his life. it makes putin weak. it cracks on with his life. it- makes putin -weak. it makes makes putin look weak. it makes his accusations— makes putin look weak. it makes his accusations look true. swig his accusations look true. my understanding— his accusations look true. my understanding is— his accusations look true. my understanding is that that message didn't understanding is that that mesgoie didn't understanding is that that mesgoie on didn't understanding is that that mesgoie on telegram.didn't understanding is that that mesgoie on telegram. itin't understanding is that that mesgoie on telegram. it was just go out on telegram. it was out on russian media as out on russian state media as well. so these people now, well. so so these people now, the are the first the russians are for the first time hearing this idea because they must have been getting just let's it mildly, one let's let's put it mildly, one side the story from russian side of the story from russian state the state media. and now the idea that the invasion of ukraine

wasn't necessarily legitimate. that the invasion of ukraine wasithisecessarily legitimate. that the invasion of ukraine wasithisecess shake agitimate. that the invasion of ukraine wasithisecess shake agitima'up but this does shake things up for it? yeah, but for putin, doesn't it? yeah, but to what extent?— for putin, doesn't it? yeah, but to what extent? not— for putin, doesn't it? yeah, but to what extent? not to- 2 2 g fl yeah, but to what extent? not to the extent— to what extent? not to the extent that _ to what extent? not to the extent that the _ to what extent? not to the extent that the westerners want wto— extent that the westerners want who went— extent that the westerners want who want putin— extent that the westerners want who want putin gone, they want gong,— who want putin gone, they want gone—yeah,- who want putin gone, they want gone—ween yeah-l gone, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. as gone, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. rte-we— gone, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. rte-we ton-t— gone, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. as-we don't know- gone, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. as we don't know what as if then we don't know what reopene— as if then we don't know what neppene twinge— as if then we don't know what happens. things even get happens. things might even get woreeow-w eew— worse. but as you say, interestingly- worse. but as you say, interestingly seen interestingly enough, we've seen witeoe— interestingly enough, we've seen witeoeloitizene— interestingly enough, we've seen videos-citizens of— interestingly enough, we've seen videos citizens of rostov on videos of citizens of rostov on donr_ videos of citizens of rostov on non—ot— videos of citizens of rostov on non—ot tire - don, which is one of the two weior— don, which is one of the two weior oitiee— don, which is one of the two major cities that— major cities that wagner oertwreri— major cities that wagner captured, shouting captured, actually shouting wegner— captured, actually shouting wagneriname,- captured, actually shouting wagner name, presumably wagner s name, presumably enowing— wagner s name, presumably showingwhether_ wagner s name, presumably showingwhether their moves, whether with their irewerw— moves, whether with their trewerw in— moves, whether with their bravery in ukraine or with this wwtinw. — bravery in ukraine or with this wwtinw. we— bravery in ukraine or with this mutiny. we don't— bravery in ukraine or with this mutiny. we don't know what they newe— mutiny. we don't know what they newe net— mutiny. we don't know what they newe net e— mutiny. we don't know what they have had a lot— mutiny. we don't know what they have had a lot of— mutiny. we don't know what they have had a lot of popular ewpport— have had a lot of popular ewpport. ite— have had a lot of popular support. it's all happening so teet— support. it's all happening so teet .— support. it's all happening so teet , ten-t— support. it's all happening so fast, isn't it? _ support. it's all happening so fast , isn't it? v423 2 2 fast, isn't it? yeah, i mean, and it feels so like a surprise . like two days ago, we were not predicting that would be predicting that this would be a turn the wall, which is one turn in the wall, which is one of the things of wars, i guess they're unpredictable, but they are. is going are. who knows if this is going well not? i mean, whoever well or not? i mean, whoever replaces putin might be worse than outcome, than putin is the best outcome, a weakened putin. point . i a weakened putin. good point. i don't think we should make- don't think we should make pretiotione— predictions because you and i newe— predictions because you and i newe e— predictions because you and i newe e tet— predictions because you and i have a bad record on predictions.- have a bad record on predictions. i think we were tott— predictions. i think we were both on— predictions. i think we were both on-same- predictions. i think we were- both on-same-saying both on the same program saying that both on the same program saying tnet—wew— both on the same program saying tnet—wew wowit- that absolutely no way would vietiwir— that absolutely no way would vladimir putin. _ that absolutely no way would vladimir putin. swig 2 2 vladimir putin. my record is

immaculate. sorry, vladimir putin. my record is| immaculate. sorry,-mic vladimir putin. my record is. immaculate. sorry,-mic is immaculate. sorry, your mic is iwweowiete. — immaculate. sorry, your mic is immaculate. you— immaculate. sorry, your mic is immaculate. you predict- 2 sorry, your mic is immaculate. v/rzzr. 2 r2 immaculate. sorry, your mic is immaculate. you predict as well as greta thunberg. yeah. oh yeah, as greta thunberg. yeah. oh ween-vorte— as greta thunberg. yeah. oh yeah,-you're pretty- as greta thunberg. yeah. ohi yeah,-you're pretty good yeah, yeah. you're pretty good at yeah, yeah. you're pretty good et tnet. — yeah, yeah. you're pretty good at that. yeah.— yeah, yeah. you're pretty good at that. yeah. .both - yeah, yeah. you're pretty good at that. v423 2 2 at that. yeah. we both said there was no way it actually invade and we we were wrong invade and we only we were wrong on occasion. it's quite on that occasion. it's quite a big— on that occasion. it's quite a big-vou— on that occasion. it's quite a big-you know,- on that occasion. it's quite a big-you wow, i- on that occasion. it's quite a- big-you know, i think. big occasion, you know, i think. out— big occasion, you know, i think. tut wow— big occasion, you know, i think. not won know.— big occasion, you know, i think. but you know, we're— big occasion, you know, i think. but you know, we're not- but you know, we're not prophets. know. so, prophets. we don't know. so, look, going move on now look, we're going to move on now to front of the sunday to the front of the sunday times. have they are times. steve they have they are covering russia, but they also have another story. so should have another story. so we should look that. really just stop look at that. really just stop oil_ activists. oil fundraiser tells activists teet— oil fundraiser tells activists iwet—weiningl just stop. it's not helping. itigwt. — just stop. it's not helping. tight-tite- just stop. it's not helping. right. this revelation, is right. and this revelation, is it? — right. and this revelation, is it? wett— right. and this revelation, is it? weii. no— right. and this revelation, is it? well, no, but- right. and this revelation, is it? well, no, but it's- right. and this revelation, is it? well, no, but it's good that the advice is being passed to just stop because know just stop oil because know extinction rebellion have said that going to that they're not going to be doing kind protests. doing those kind of protests. the is the media or this the problem is the media or this is the problem is the media or this ie ww— the problem is the media or this ie ww tete— the problem is the media or this ie ww tete, too— the problem is the media or this is my take, do you— the problem is the media or this is my take, do you think? well, the is my take, do you think? well, tire protiew— is my take, do you think? well, the problem is— is my take, do you think? well, the problem is the— is my take, do you think? well, the problem is the that the problem is the fact that tree— the problem is the fact that tteee—tnel these original protests, the extinction— these original protests, the extinction rebellion protests, were—owl extinction rebellion protests,- were—netwow were were badly aimed. but you went— were were badly aimed. but you wentltrw— were were badly aimed. but you wentltrw ent— were were badly aimed. but you wentltrw ent get— were were badly aimed. but you want try and get people to be want to try and get people to be wore-trientiw. — want to try and get people to be more .friendly. i'm - want to try and get people to be more friendly. i'm to more eco friendly. i'm going to giwe— more eco friendly. i'm going to giwe-to— more eco friendly. i'm going to giwe-to-oiit. - more eco friendly. i'm going to glue-to-dlr. hey,l glue myself to the dlr. hey, wetee— glue myself to the dlr. hey, wetee-nwt- glue myself to the dlr. hey,i makes-but-the makes no sense. but then the wette— makes no sense. but then the media reported— makes no sense. but then the media reported it. i'm sure there— media reported it. i'm sure there newe— media reported it. i'm sure there have been- media reported it. i'm sure there have been loads of people proteeting— there have been loads of people protesting something protesting about something eco tweet— protesting about something eco teeet—teite- protesting about something eco based talks about, based that no one talks about, tet— based that no one talks about, but-phenomena-

based that no one talks about, but phenomena happened but then this phenomena happened where— but then this phenomena happened where it— but then this phenomena happened where it won— but then this phenomena happened where it won to— but then this phenomena happened where if you do something owtregeowe— where if you do something owtregeowe .— where if you do something outrageous , as— where if you do something outrageous , as we all sit here outrageous, as we all sit here going— outrageous, as we all sit here ggng, i— outrageous, as we all sit here ggng, i oen-t— outrageous, as we all sit here going, i can't believe it, and eweonerw— going, i can't believe it, and everyone .talking- everyone was talking about otiwete— everyone was talking about climate change, but was climate change, but that was treet— climate change, but that was the wee— climate change, but that was that was strategy, wasn't that was the strategy, wasn't it? — that was the strategy, wasn't it? .itee— that was the strategy, wasn't it? .itee io— that was the strategy, wasn't it? .idea is that- that was the strategy, wasn't it? .idea is that if- that was the strategy, wasn't it? 2 �*" that was the strategy, wasn't- it? .idea is that if you glue it? the idea is that if you glue yourself gough, yourself to a van gough, everyone's talking everyone's going to be talking about it's an about it because it's an outrageous, infantile thing to do. but the other it do. but on the other hand, it doesn't to the people doesn't endear you to the people you're trying to reach. so ultimately it does end up being counterproductive. the only counterproductive. like the only way protest to yes, way for a protest to work. yes, by attention by all means draw attention to yourself, don't stop people yourself, but don't stop people getting to the hospital. don't stop on stop people getting to work on time they're just going time because they're just going to you they're not to hate you and they're not going support your cause. going to support your cause. the on that, though, the weird thing on that, though, just the weird thing on that, though, wet-tiere— the weird thing on that, though, just-there were— the weird thing on that, though, just-there were a- the weird thing on that, though, just there were a survey just was there were a survey etowt— just was there were a survey etowt e— just was there were a survey etowt e-ego- just was there were a survey about a-ago that- just was there were a survey about a ago that looked at about a month ago that looked at peonie-e— about a month ago that looked at reorie-e opinione— about a month ago that looked at people's opinions of and people's opinions of this, and it weent— people's opinions of this, and it meant people— people's opinions of this, and it meant people less it meant people felt less ewwoetnw— it meant people felt less sympathy group. it meant people felt less- sympathy-group. but sympathy with the group. but etiii— sympathy with the group. but still-sympathy— sympathy with the group. but still sympathy the still felt sympathy for the cause. .started - still felt sympathy for the cause. started to still felt sympathy for the - cause. - started to -the cause. we started to hate the ewtwienoe— cause. we started to hate the ambulance blockers, but ambulance blockers, yes, but etiii— ambulance blockers, yes, but still-opinion- ambulance blockers, yes, but still-opinionlthel still had high opinion of the otiwete— still had high opinion of the climate-isn't- climate issues. isn't that etrengei— climate issues. isn't that strange?-buti climate issues. isn't that strange?-but kind strange? it's weird, but it kind of strange? it's weird, but it kind ot-tnew— strange? it's weird, but it kind ot-tnew - strange? it's weird, but it kind of they were going to of meant they were going to oerrw— of meant they were going to oerrw on— of meant they were going to oerrw on toing— of meant they were going to carry on doing their goals carry on doing it. their goals were-inew- carry on doing it. their goals were-they didn't. carry on doing it. their goals were they didn't mind were working. they didn't mind being— were working. they didn't mind being-ee— were working. they didn't mind teing-ee tong— were working. they didn't mind being - as long .we - being hated as long as we eotweiiw— being hated as long as we eotweiiw. — being hated as long as we actually. but— being hated as long as we actually. but is- being hated as long as we actually. g2rz;2r:j; actually. but is there necessarily a causal relationship their relationship between their their strategy in

strategy and the increase in support? we really know support? we don't really know that yeah. do that that's true. yeah. what do you this, nicholas? you make of all this, nicholas? i you have lots of i imagine you have lots of sympathy for these protesters. oh, yeah, i'm all for that. who wowit— oh, yeah, i'm all for that. who wowit newe— oh, yeah, i'm all for that. who would have thought? throwing tetoiwn —otner| ketchup at van gogh or other nrioeieee— ketchup at van gogh or other prioeieee-ot— ketchup at van gogh or other priceless-of art- ketchup at van gogh or other priceless of art wouldn't priceless works of art wouldn't newe— priceless works of art wouldn't newe-wow— priceless works of art wouldn'ti newe-wow-wwon have garnered you much, much ewwpetnw. — have garnered you much, much ewwoetirw—tninti sympathy. but i don't think we are-sympathetic- sympathy. but i don't think we are sympathetic with are even that sympathetic with the are even that sympathetic with tie-etiwete— are even that sympathetic with the climate change farage, the whole climate change farage, you the whole climate change farage, wow-werewo— the whole climate change farage, you narrative. know, you know, narrative. you know, as_aierigi as we speak. what are the big issues-britain?- as we speak. what are the big issues-britain?15- as we speak. what are the big issues britain? 15 minute issues in in britain? 15 minute town— issues in in britain? 15 minute town eegwente— issues in in britain? 15 minute town segments in— issues in in britain? 15 minute town segments in oxford and cewtritge.— town segments in oxford and cambridge-the. town segments in oxford and cambridge.-the in cambridge. we've got the ulez in ionton— cambridge. we've got the ulez in ionton, wore— cambridge. we've got the ulez in london, more people london, more taxes, people toweri— london, more taxes, people forced-change- london, more taxes, people forced change their forced to change their ggggyrg, — forced to change their lifestyle, cars, lifestyle, change their cars, get— lifestyle, change their cars, get-their— lifestyle, change their cars, get-their old - lifestyle, change their cars, get their old stoves. get rid of their old stoves. wett— get rid of their old stoves. wettlton-t— get rid of their old stoves. well, don't there's get rid of their old stoves. - well,idon't-there's much well, i don't think there's much ewwpetnw—witnl sympathy for particularly with the sympathy for particularly with tie-tenetee- sympathy for particularly with the-debates as- sympathy for particularly with the debates as well. the net zero debates as well. all the net zero debates as well. on ot— the net zero debates as well. on ot-tint— the net zero debates as well. all of-kind of- all of these kind of environmental policies tend to affect the working class or certainly with less certainly people with less money. that's that's money. yeah, and that's that's something that maybe the protesters have taken protesters should have taken into account. you know, when they're the it's they're blocking the dlr, it's not affecting big cats in not affecting the big cats in tufton street, is it? yeah. and that's tufton street, is it? yeah. and tnet-e tire— tufton street, is it? yeah. and tnet-e tire wew— tufton street, is it? yeah. and that's the way that— tufton street, is it? yeah. and that's the way that this- 2.5152 fl yeah. and that's the way that this should be tone.— that's the way that this should be done it— that's the way that this should be done. it should be done. i newe— be done. it should be done. i have-problem— be done. it should be done. i have problem with aiming for have no problem with aiming for zero—it- have no problem with aiming for zero—it werel zero carbon, especially if we're going— zero carbon, especially if we're going-tne— zero carbon, especially if we're going-the country- going to be the country that wetee— going to be the country that makes-stuff- going to be the country that makes-stuff and- going to be the country that makes stuff and makes makes all this stuff and makes eowe-ott— makes all this stuff and makes eowe-ott it.— makes all this stuff and makes some-off it. but- makes all this stuff and makes some off it. but don't tax some money off it. but don't tax people— some money off it. but don't tax people ont— some money off it. but don't tax people out-it.— some money off it. but don't tax people owtlit. i— some money off it. but don't tax people out it. i think the people out of it. i think the

same -cars .we'lll same about cars and we'll protetiw— same about cars and we'll protetiw-on- same about cars and we'll probably-on to- same about cars and we'll probably on to talk about probably come on to talk about wiz— probably come on to talk about tittz-tnet— probably come on to talk about ulez-that don't- probably come on to talk about ulez that don't tax me out ulez later that don't tax me out of ulez later that don't tax me out ot-eotiwitw. — ulez later that don't tax me out of-activity. tempt- ulez later that don't tax me out of activity. tempt me. i'm of this activity. tempt me. i'm were— of this activity. tempt me. i'm here to— of this activity. tempt me. i'm here to te— of this activity. tempt me. i'm here to be tempted. we will be coming— here to be tempted. we will be oowingltiitz— here to be tempted. we will be coming-ulez in— here to be tempted. we will be coming ulez in bit. coming to ulez in a bit. but before— coming to ulez in a bit. but before-to— coming to ulez in a bit. but before-do that,- coming to ulez in a bit. but before-do that, let's- coming to ulez in a bit. but before do that, let's have before we do that, let's have a look at this story which is from the telegraph. nicholas you've got one, i think. oh yeah, got this one, i think. oh yeah, this is a nice story— gist oh yeah, this is a nice story actually. ant— this is a nice story actually. ant wett— this is a nice story actually. and well, mark— this is a nice story actually. and well, mark rylance, who is a 63 and well, mark rylance, who is a too-eeon— and well, mark rylance, who is a oo-eotor, ne— and well, mark rylance, who is a 63 actor, he actually 63 year old actor, he actually ptewet— 63 year old actor, he actually played tire— 63 year old actor, he actually played tire-ot— 63 year old actor, he actually played the .of a - 63 year old actor, he actually played the of a surprise, played the part of a surprise, ewrnriee— played the part of a surprise, eerwne-erw- played the part of a surprise, ewrpriee-enw in- played the part of a surprise, surprise spy in one of surprise russian spy in one of my surprise russian spy in one of ww tewowrite— surprise russian spy in one of my favourite movies, bridge of swee— my favourite movies, bridge of sniee-snieiterg- my favourite movies, bridge of spies-spielberg .- my favourite movies, bridge of spies spielberg . yes. spies by steven spielberg. yes. ant— spies by steven spielberg. yes. ant-.— spies by steven spielberg. yes. ant- ire— spies by steven spielberg. yes. ant- ie eewe— spies by steven spielberg. yes. ant- ie eewe .— spies by steven spielberg. yes. and , he says , this is this and well, he says, this is this is and well, he says, this is this ie cowo— and well, he says, this is this is covm territory. _ and well, he says, this is this is covid territory. and i'm on my— is covid territory. and i'm on ww tiret— is covid territory. and i'm on my first appearance here, so i'm eteting— my first appearance here, so i'm eteting on— my first appearance here, so i'm skating on thin— my first appearance here, so i'm skating on thin ice.— my first appearance here, so i'm skating on thin ice. i've been viewed— skating on thin ice. i've been wernet .— skating on thin ice. i've been warned . what— skating on thin ice. i've been warned . what you say, nicholas? warned. what you say, nicholas? ween.— warned. what you say, nicholas? teen. teen.— warned. what you say, nicholas? yeah. yeah. okay.— warned. what you say, nicholas? yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i— yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i think— yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i tnint wow— yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i think you stick— yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i think you stick to- yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i think you stick to the- yeah. yeah. okay. yeah, exactly . i think you stick to the facts and we'll be grounded. yeah well, facts. but well, well defined facts. but anyway. so wasn't well, well defined facts. but anyway. so .wasn't too - 2r::i�* 2r::;2 2 but anyway. so wasn't too sure anyway. so he wasn't too sure etowt— anyway. so he wasn't too sure etowt tirie. — anyway. so he wasn't too sure about this. covm _ anyway. so he wasn't too sure about this. covid vaccine, he about this. covid vaccine, so he eewe-nie— about this. covid vaccine, so he eewe-tie own- about this. covid vaccine, so he came his own solution, came up with his own solution, wiret— came up with his own solution, witch-e— came up with his own solution, which-a garlic— came up with his own solution, which a garlic solution and which was a garlic solution and witewin. — which was a garlic solution and vitamin. . literally— which was a garlic solution and vitamin. literally up vitamin. he literally came up witn— vitamin. he literally came up with - solution. - vitamin. he literally came up with-solution. it- vitamin. he literally came up with solution. it wasn't with his own solution. it wasn't teet— with his own solution. it wasn't iwet—iitereiiw- with his own solution. it wasn't just—literally and| just a solution on literally and so just a solution on literally and eo ire— just a solution on literally and eo we wee— just a solution on literally and so he was taking— just a solution on literally and so he was taking garlic as though— so he was taking garlic as though cowo— so he was taking garlic as though covid was some kind of empire— though covid was some kind of wewnire .— though covid was some kind of vampire . wett— though covid was some kind of vampire . well, he— though covid was some kind of vampire . well, he said he went

vampire. well, he said he went grent— vampire. well, he said he went grent ent— vampire. well, he said he went grent end we— vampire. well, he said he went grand and he went through his play— grand and he went through his play ent— grand and he went through his play entlne— grand and he went through his play and-he was- grand and he went through his play and he was preparing play and he he was preparing ierweeiew — play and he he was preparing jerusalem or— play and he he was preparing jerusalem or acting in jerusalem at jerusalem or acting in jerusalem et treet— jerusalem or acting in jerusalem et the time— jerusalem or acting in jerusalem et the time .— jerusalem or acting in jerusalem at that time . wrote another play at that time. wrote another play oeitet— at that time. wrote another play called doctor— at that time. wrote another play called doctor semmelweis co—authored_ called doctor semmelweis co—authored that with playwright sternen — co—authored that with playwright sternen brown— co—authored that with playwright sternen trown .— co—authored that with playwright stephen brown . and yeah , he just stephen brown. and yeah, he just eeit— stephen brown. and yeah, he just eeit ire— stephen brown. and yeah, he just eeit we titn-t— stephen brown. and yeah, he just said he didn't have— stephen brown. and yeah, he just said he didn't have any trouble witn— said he didn't have any trouble with cowo— said he didn't have any trouble with covm. no,— said he didn't have any trouble with covid. no, no. and he was a 63 with covid. no, no. and he was a too weer— with covid. no, no. and he was a too weer owi— with covid. no, no. and he was a we weer oit, eo— with covid. no, no. and he was a 63 year old, so. well— with covid. no, no. and he was a 63 year old, so. well here's the wing,— 63 year old, so. well here's the wing, sternen— 63 year old, so. well here's the thing, stephen, because we have tteee— thing, stephen, because we have these debates— thing, stephen, because we have these debates when it comes to twinge— these debates when it comes to things homoeopathy and things like homoeopathy and ewerwtiring— things like homoeopathy and everything, know, i this everything, know, i take this rewetw— everything, know, i take this remedy-never- everything, know, i take this remedy never had any remedy and i've never had any trowtie— remedy and i've never had any trouble-therefore- remedy and i've never had any trouble therefore the remedy trouble and therefore the remedy wrote — trouble and therefore the remedy wworet inet-e— trouble and therefore the remedy works. 2 works. that's a fundamental error, huge. it's error, isn't it? oh, huge. it's best case scenario. one- g fl (i3’22gr21t's best case scenario. one data point.— best case scenario. one data point. tight.— best case scenario. one data point. right. okay there's no townie— point. right. okay there's no double blind— point. right. okay there's no double blind testing here at eit— double blind testing here at eit-iwet- double blind testing here at all.-just like- double blind testing here at all. just like one all. is it? it's just like one nenreo— all. is it? it's just like one oereon ite— all. is it? it's just like one person. it's like- all. is it? it's just like one person. it's like those stories of person. it's like those stories ot eowe— person. it's like those stories ot eowelweer— person. it's like those stories of some-year old- person. it's like those stories of some year old in a care of some 113 year old in a care wowe— of some 113 year old in a care home eewing— of some 113 year old in a care home saying, every day of some 113 year old in a care- home saying,-every day . home saying, i smoke every day. ween— home saying, i smoke every day. ween, int— home saying, i smoke every day. ween, out we— home saying, i smoke every day. yeah, but we know— home saying, i smoke every day. yeah, but we know smoking will kill yeah, but we know smoking will tiii on— yeah, but we know smoking will kill on.general._ yeah, but we know smoking will kill on general. yes so just kill on in general. yes so just tinting— kill on in general. yes so just tinting one— kill on in general. yes so just finding one anecdotal piece of evidence— finding one anecdotal piece of ewitenoe ire— finding one anecdotal piece of evidence he might be on he might be on— evidence he might be on he might be on to— evidence he might be on he might be on to something. 2 evidence he might be on he might be on to something. i mean, you tnow— be on to something. i mean, you know among shakespearean actors who've a garlic solution who've taken a garlic solution instead it's 100% instead of a vaccine, it's 100% success i think that's success rate. so i think that's fine, right? you it winds fine, right? you know, it winds me fine, right? you know, it winds welwitn—

fine, right? you know, it winds welwitn e— fine, right? you know, it winds me .with a line— fine, right? you know, it winds me.with a line in- fine, right? you know, it winds me.with a line in here- �*" 2 32“ you know, it winds me with a line in here saying me up with a line in here saying e-into— me up with a line in here saying science-to sound- science started to sound like reiigion— science started to sound like reiigion-iwe- science started to sound like. religion.-he-and religion. and then he says, and reeiiw— religion. and then he says, and really, science— religion. and then he says, and really, science-no— religion. and then he says, and really, science no different really, science is no different twen— really, science is no different then-teen- really, science is no different than-yeah, that- really, science is no different than yeah, that was than religion. yeah, that was treet— than religion. yeah, that was the wee— than religion. yeah, that was the tire— than religion. yeah, that was that was the takeaway point, though,— that was the takeaway point, though, different, though, really different, twowgw— though, really different, though, just though, isn't it? science just you— though, isn't it? science just wow-wneti — though, isn't it? science just wow-wneti i- though, isn't it? science just you-what? i think. though, isn't it? science just you what? you know what? i think we forgive he's a fantastic forgive him. he's a fantastic science tried and science that has been tried and tested. can we say with tested. can we say that with ie— tested. can we say that with science is that,— tested. can we say that with science is that, you- 2 can we say that with science is that, you know, if you— science is that, you know, if wow get— science is that, you know, if wow get good— science is that, you know, if you get good enough at that eoenoeo-g- you get good enough at that science,-go and- science, you can go and reniioete— science, you can go and replicate paper and get the replicate the paper and get the reentte— replicate the paper and get the same results. whereas i think reiigion— same results. whereas i think reiigion-wow- same results. whereas i think religion you believe same results. whereas i think religori you believe same results. whereas i think religor you you believe same results. whereas i think religor you go you believe same results. whereas i think religor you go to you believe same results. whereas i think religor you go to hell, believe same results. whereas i think religor you go to hell, right?t this or you go to hell, right? wett— this or you go to hell, right? weii, tneee— this or you go to hell, right? well, these are— this or you go to hell, right? well, these are was this reptioetet— well, these are was this replicated enough, nicholas? ineee— replicated enough, nicholas? ineee-nwge— replicated enough, nicholas? these-huge theological. these are huge theological questions. haven't time these are huge theological quethis�*is. haven't time these are huge theological quethis that haven't time these are huge theological quethis that ishaven't time these are huge theological quethis that is itven't time these are huge theological quethis that is it for't time these are huge theological quethis that is it for part time for this that is it for part one. but do join us in part two where going to be talking where we're going to be talking about

you're listening . to 2 . you're listening. to welcome teet— . you're listening. to welcome teetto— . you're listening. to welcome back to headliners . your first back to headliners. your first look at sunday's newspapers . i'm look at sunday's newspapers. i'm your host, andrew doyle. i'm joined by steve college boy allen and nicholas mama mia santo. going to kick off santo. we're going to kick off with sunday's telegraph with some turbulence for rishi. steve you've got this one. rishi faces

etritee— you've got this one. rishi faces etritee twing— you've got this one. rishi faces strikes during election- v/rzzr. gist rishi faces strikes during election campaign etter— strikes during election campaign after blocking— strikes during election campaign after blocking public sector pay rise after blocking public sector pay .— after blocking public sector pay . so— after blocking public sector pay rise . so brief— after blocking public sector pay rise . so brief recap. they've rise. so brief recap. they've got— rise. so brief recap. they've got tite— rise. so brief recap. they've got this indian— rise. so brief recap. they've got this indian student pay notw— got this indian student pay review body that the government had review body that the government net ieet— review body that the government had used before— review body that the government had used before from such things you had used before from such things wow wigtt— had used before from such things wow wigiwt newe— had used before from such things you might have heard like, oh, we ten-t— you might have heard like, oh, we can't possibly— you might have heard like, oh, we can't possibly pay more than the independent— we can't possibly pay more than the independent body review has oowe—ww- come up with. and also my tewowrite— come up with. and also my favourite classic— come up with. and also my favourite classic , well, the favourite classic, well, the independent— favourite classic, well, the independent body has said that we tite— independent body has said that we mps should— independent body has said that we mps should get an 11% pay wro— we mps should get an 11% pay who-to— we mps should get an 11% pay rise. who to argue? now rise. who are we to argue? now thew— rise. who are we to argue? now ttew eew— rise. who are we to argue? now tnew eew we— rise. who are we to argue? now tnew eew we eew-t— rise. who are we to argue? now they say we can't give the pay riee— they say we can't give the pay treet— they say we can't give the pay rise that this— they say we can't give the pay rise that this independent reorie— rise that this independent people newe.— rise that this independent people have. i— rise that this independent people have. i mean, you're teiting— people have. i mean, you're. talking—millions people have. i mean, you're- talking_millions of talking about 6% for millions of petite— talking about 6% for millions of public-workers,- talking about 6% for millions of public workers, but do public sector workers, but do thew— public sector workers, but do ttew newe— public sector workers, but do tnew newe e— public sector workers, but do they have a case? v/rzzr. they have a case? you know, that they have a case? you know, that they don't really have the money? argument money? well the main argument they that this they use, though, is that this will lock in inflation. right. and we hear that— will lock in inflation. right. and we hear that and- and we hear that and just go, oh, and we hear that and just go, on veahr— and we hear that and just go, on, yeahr tetr— and we hear that and just go, oh, yeah, fair enough. there's some questions— oh, yeah, fair enough. there's some questions to be asked in treet— some questions to be asked in the teoweee— some questions to be asked in that because everyone presumes intietion— that because everyone presumes inflation-like— that because everyone presumes inflation-like this. - inflation works like this. if you— inflation works like this. if you-someone- inflation works like this. if you someone more, a inflation works like this. if- you-someone more,.a shop you pay someone more, if a shop woter— you pay someone more, if a shop worter-worelenoni worker gets paid more, the shop otergee— worker gets paid more, the shop otergee-iniwge— worker gets paid more, the shop charges-things are- worker gets paid more, the shop charges things are more charges more. things are more eneneiwe— charges more. things are more expensive. that's— charges more. things are more expensive. that's inflation. yes if expensive. that's inflation. yes it-e— expensive. that's inflation. yes it-e woree— expensive. that's inflation. yes if-a nurse more- expensive. that's inflation. yes if a nurse more who is, if you pay a nurse more who is, wow— if you pay a nurse more who is, wow-tworeeee— if you pay a nurse more who is, you-increase the- if you pay a nurse more who is, you increase the price of you can't increase the price of enwtiriwg— anything. the only thing you contri— anything. the only thing you oowit to— anything. the only thing you oowit to ie— anything. the only thing you could do is increase tax, which means people have less tiepoeetie— means people have less-

disposable-spend, means people have less- disposabthe-spend, means people have less disposabthe goal spend, means people have less disposabthe goal of spend, means people have less disposabthe goal of increasing which is the goal of increasing iwtereet— which is the goal of increasing interest rates— which is the goal of increasing interest rates to _ which is the goal of increasing interest rates to slow down the eowornw to— interest rates to slow down the economy, to fight— interest rates to slow down the economy, to fight inflation. is tite— economy, to fight inflation. is twie righti— economy, to fight inflation. is twie rigwti — economy, to fight inflation. is this right? nicola- economy, to fight inflation. is this right? a 2 tit. this right? nicola so the rmt general secretary, mick lynch here, he's quoted as saying that the best way to tackle inflation is deal with of living is to deal with cost of living crisis wages for crisis by raising wages for workers public sector and workers in the public sector and price controls on essential goods substantial windfall goods and a substantial windfall tax business, big business tax on business, big business profits. well, tax on business, big business profits . well, i don't think profits. well, i don't think i egree— profits. well, i don't think i egree ee— profits. well, i don't think i agree as a non— well, i don't think i agree as a non public sector woter— agree as a non public sector woter ewt— agree as a non public sector woter ent ee— agree as a non public sector worker and as a— agree as a non public sector worker and as a mortgage holder wro— worker and as a mortgage holder wiwo wee— worker and as a mortgage holder wiwo wee ieet— worker and as a mortgage holder who has just been— worker and as a mortgage holder who has just been hit by the news, been covering, us news, we've been covering, us eeriier— news, we've been covering, us writer-wet— news, we've been covering, us earlier-week, the - news, we've been covering, us earlier week, the whole earlier this week, the whole itee— earlier this week, the whole itee ot— earlier this week, the whole idea of-whole- earlier this week, the whole idea of whole declared aim idea of the whole declared aim of idea of the whole declared aim ot reieing— idea of the whole declared aim ot reieiwg tire— idea of the whole declared aim of raising the interest rate, witt— of raising the interest rate, with nee— of raising the interest rate, which has been— of raising the interest rate, which has been a catastrophe for wortgege— which has been a catastrophe for mortgage holders,— which has been a catastrophe for mortgage holders, was to control intietiow. — mortgage holders, was to control inflation. obviously if you pay the inflation. obviously if you pay tire woree— inflation. obviously if you pay tire or— inflation. obviously if you pay the nurse or whoever the market wiii— the nurse or whoever the market witi trow— the nurse or whoever the market will know there's— the nurse or whoever the market will know there's more money in the will know there's more money in tire tw— will know there's more money in tee in tire— will know there's more money in the in the marketplace and iwtietiow— the in the marketplace and inflation will— the in the marketplace and inflation will go up. so the government— inflation will go up. so the government not— inflation will go up. so the government not that i have ewwnetniee— government not that i have sympathies with but they sympathies with them, but they are sympathies with them, but they etwot— sympathies with them, but they etwot in— sympathies with them, but they are stuck in between a rock and are stuck in between a rock and e tert— are stuck in between a rock and e inert place-— are stuck in between a rock and a hard place. but— are stuck in between a rock and a hard place. but that's the bit i a hard place. but that's the bit i-twiiw— a hard place. but that's the bit i-twiiw get— a hard place. but that's the bit i-twiiw get wow— a hard place. but that's the bit i fully get your link i don't fully get your link there — i don't fully get your link there ine— i don't fully get your link there. ll i don't fully get your link there. 22 there. the market will know there's more money. yeah. how does work? is so this does that work? this is so this is just nurses having a bit more

to spend. you think that they their extra spending push their extra spending would push up of absolutely up the price of absolutely everything? well, anyway, it's ieet— everything? well, anyway, it's wet—tne- everything? well, anyway, it's just—the nurses,. just it's not just the nurses, tet— just it's not just the nurses, tut-ee— just it's not just the nurses, but-as anybody- just it's not just the nurses, but as anybody has just it's not just the nurses,- but-as anybody has more but as long as anybody has more wonw— but as long as anybody has more wow tnet-e— but as long as anybody has more money, that's the _ but as long as anybody has more money, that's the definition of intietion. — money, that's the definition of inflation. .you_ money, that's the definition of inflation. .you don't- money, that's the definition of inflation. 2:::r2 g inflation. an you don't think that nurses deserve bit more. that nurses deserve a bit more. i work very hard, i mean they work very hard, don't they? well, they've not tent— don't they? well, they've not tent-thew— don't they? well, they've not tent-thew ere- don't they? well, they've not kept-they are doingi kept up when they are doing woee— kept up when they are doing those choreographed those titanic choreographed twee — those titanic choreographed dances. _let'sl those titanic choreographed. dances. _let's not those titanic choreographed- dances. _let's not go dances. but but but let's not go there. has kept up there. their pay has not kept up with inflation ten years. with inflation for ten years. well, no. who have you as a comedian? has your pace. but that's because the jokes. - 22 rfi2“ 2 2 but that's because the jokes. exactly. yeah,— that's because the jokes. exactly. yeah, but- that's because the jokes. xiii yeah, but no, but exactly. yeah, but no, but twet-e— exactly. yeah, but no, but that's kwasi_ exactly. yeah, but no, but that's kwasi so— xiii yeah, but no, but that's kwasi so hard on wowreeit— that's kwasi so hard on- yourself. _ generally yourself. comedians generally are yourself. comedians generally ere—teet- yourself. comedians generally. are—deal. they're are getting a hard deal. they're iieten— are getting a hard deal. they're gag. were— are getting a hard deal. they're listen, we're going to move on to-independent- listen, we're going to move on- to-independent-and listen, we're going to move on- toldo-independent-and listen, we're going to move on- toldo.solve)endent-and listen, we're going to move on- toldo.solve trickyit-and listen, we're going to move on to do solve tricky asylum and how do we solve tricky asylum teoieionei— how do we solve tricky asylum decisions? well,— how do we solve tricky asylum decisions? well, according to tire— decisions? well, according to tire-onto — decisions? well, according to. the - office, - don't the home office, we just don't wint— the home office, we just don't twint etowt— the home office, we just don't think about it.— the home office, we just don't think about it. nicholas i love tinie— think about it. nicholas i love twie- — think about it. nicholas i love this- independence- think about it. nicholas i lovei this- independence says this story. independence says home making home office stops units making asylum prepare for asylum decisions to prepare for small despite huge small boats. bill. despite huge backlog. okay, talk us through this. now, this story , i like it this. now, this story, i like it because it's a winding up all the right people okay but but i'm not too optimistic because we know how tories have been deaung

we know how tories have been dealing with immigration over the past 13 years. but the bottom line is that this small boats bill or official illegal migration bill is something which has to be discussed in the parliament yet. and of course it's going to face most probably all sorts of protests from and objections. and you know , objections. and you know, obstacles from the usual suspects, the courts, ngos , suspects, the courts, ngos, activists profiteering from from from illegal immigration. but already the government assumes that this is going to work. they have dedicated their personal part of their personnel , which part of their personnel, which were supposed to deal with asylum cases. yes. where there's asylum cases. yes. where there's a huge backlog already to this new law , which is going to which new law, which is going to which is aimed at, according to independent sending the arrivals by boat immediately back, regardless of their asylum status or claims . yeah, regardless of their asylum status or claims. yeah, but it's twen— status or claims. yeah, but it's more than that,— status or claims. yeah, but it's more than that, isn't- ran? yeah, but it's more than that, isn't it? it's eieo— more than that, isn't it? it's eieo tire— more than that, isn't it? it's also the terminology that's going— also the terminology that's going to— also the terminology that's going to te— also the terminology that's going to be used about all these people-— going to be used about all these neonie. so— going to be used about all these people. so everyone who comes in is people. so everyone who comes in ie going— people. so everyone who comes in ie going to— people. so everyone who comes in ie going to te— people. so everyone who comes in is going to be referred to as iiiegei—

is going to be referred to as itiegei wie— is going to be referred to as illegal via the— is going to be referred to as illegal via the boats, which witn— illegal via the boats, which with ie. — illegal via the boats, which which is. which- illegal via the boats, which which is. szwr illegal via the boats, which which is. �*vwa2 r22 �*vwa2 r22 illegal via the boats, which which is. �*vwa 2 r22 �*vwa 2 r22 illegal via the boats, which- which is. which is. which is who they because face it, they are. because let's face it, if leaving france to come if you're leaving france to come to the uk comics, we've all to the uk as comics, we've all heard this and a as a heard this joke and as a as a bit of a francophile, i am a bit of a francophile in english, francophile. i'm sick and tired of joke that if these of this joke that if these migrants france for migrants have left france for the terrible france must the uk, how terrible france must be as a country. the uk, how terrible france must be as a country . and there is be as a country. and there is truth to the joke because if you're really fleeing for your life and you've gone through all as as as italian born person that i am, gone through that i am, you've gone through italy, you've gone through austria or switzerland, germany, france, to the france, belgium to come to the uk. it's not because your life was danger. you're just was in danger. you're just coming migrant. coming as an economic migrant. okay, do you to okay, steve, do you want to ettreee— okay, steve, do you want to address-point?- okay, steve, do you want to. address-point?.it address that, that point? is it is address that, that point? is it ie it— address that, that point? is it ie it noeeitie— address that, that point? is it is it possible to— address that, that point? is it is it possible to be an asylum eeeter— is it possible to be an asylum seeker-these- is it possible to be an asylum seeker these boats seeker on one of these boats newing— seeker on one of these boats having travelled _ seeker on one of these boats having travelled through, as wiooiee— having travelled through, as wiooiee-ot- nicolas says, all of these various countries? nicolas says, all of these- various-countries? as soon various other countries? as soon as various other countries? as soon ee wow— various other countries? as soon as you are an asylum seeker, then technically you're not an illegal that's illegal migrant. that's that's the asking because the question i'm asking because as seeker, you as an asylum seeker, aren't you meant to seek in the meant to seek asylum in the first country that you come to? is that not how it works? well, tnet— is that not how it works? well, tnet-tnet— is that not how it works? well, that-that was— is that not how it works? well,

that-that was an - is that not how it works? well, that that was an argument that was that was an argument that was that was an argument that used a while. but that was used for a while. but apparently there is no international that we signed international law that we signed up there is no requirement international law that we signed up youtere is no requirement international law that we signed up youtere istoo requirement international law that we signed up youtere isto simply ement international law that we signed up youtere isto simply be ent international law that we signed up youtere isto simply be int that you have to simply be in that you have to simply be in that country. so isn't it weird if that country. so isn't it weird it wor— that country. so isn't it weird it wor en— that country. so isn't it weird if you're an asylum - r2r:::r. so isn't it weird if you're an asylum seeker r2.r:ir. so isn't it weird if you're an asylum seeker when you— if you're an asylum seeker when wow savi— if you're an asylum seeker when wow w i— if you're an asylum seeker when wow eew, i went— if you're an asylum seeker when wow eew, i went to— if you're an asylum seeker when you say, i want to go to this nertiowier— you say, i want to go to this particular country? v/rzi;~ir g particular country? yes, it's weird.— particular country? yes, it's weird. tet— particular country? yes, it's weird, but then not the weird, but then that's not the question started question you originally started with call all of with is can you call all of these people illegal entrants? yes you because some yes yes. you can't because some people technically people aren't technically illegal being an illegal if they are being an asylum a second asylum seeker. then a second question weird? question is, isn't that weird? but that's isn't it? but that's true, isn't it? there-e— but that's true, isn't it? inere-e no — but that's true, isn't it? there's no such thing as an iiiegei— there's no such thing as an illegal asylum _ there's no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker. wacky illegal asylum seeker. exactly. you illegal asylum seeker. exactly. tow en— illegal asylum seeker. exactly. tow wlw— illegal asylum seeker. exactly. you can an illegal immigrant you can be an illegal immigrant or migrant or entrant, the or migrant or entrant, as the law going say. law says, or is going to say. and be an asylum seeker. and you can be an asylum seeker. maybe at the same time because you enter as an illegal entrant. and once have applied and then once you have applied for they have not for asylum, which they have not done don't even the done and we don't know even the bbc i used to work, bbc where i used to work, stopped at point calling stopped at some point calling them seekers and this them asylum seekers and this is them asylum seekers and this is the called migrants the bbc and called them migrants because and some of because we don't and some of them even bother applying them even never bother applying for into the for they just disappear into the submerged economy. some of also then there's group who then implies there's a group who do for some might. do apply for some of them might. yeah, the ones who would

yeah, they're the ones who would be oeitet — yeah, they're the ones who would be called illegal.— yeah, they're the ones who would be called illegal. therefore be called illegal. so therefore you— be called illegal. so therefore you-say— be called illegal. so therefore wow-eew eti— be called illegal. so therefore wow-eew eit ot- be called illegal. so therefore you say all of them you can't say all of them are. if you can't say all of them are. it won— you can't say all of them are. it won enter— you can't say all of them are. if you enter illegally,- you can't say all of them are. if you enter illegally, you- you can't say all of them are. if you enter illegally, you are an entry. it's not an an illegal entry. it's not an insult. just fact. and even insult. it's just fact. and even saying insult. it's just fact. and even eewing ite— insult. it's just fact. and even eewing it w— insult. it's just fact. and even saying it's an insult,- insult. it's just fact. and even saying it's an insult, we- g 752 and even saying it's an insult, we just etteotiweiw— saying it's an insult, we just effectively arguing over the terwinotogw— effectively arguing over the terminology, within effectively arguing over the terminology,-within eu, terminology, even within the eu, were-e— terminology, even within the eu, there's-accord- terminology, even within the eu, there's accord where there's a dublin accord where trwe— there's a dublin accord where trwoe—tnewl there's a dublin accord wherei trwoe—tnew go france, for example, if they go to trene — france, for example, if they go to france and— france, for example, if they go to france and france, if france toee— to france and france, if france toee oetw— to france and france, if france does catch them— to france and france, if france does catch them bother does catch them and bother oetwing— does catch them and bother oetwing-tnew- does catch them and bother catching they refer catching them, it they refer them — catching them, it they refer them -to— catching them, it they refer them -to italy - catching them, it they refer them to italy because them back to italy because they say them back to italy because they eew—wow— them back to italy because they eew—wow i say this is your your issue. tow— say this is your your issue. tow need— say this is your your issue. you need-because- say this is your your issue. . you need-because-come say this is your your issue. - you need-because-come to you need to because they come to us. why they destroy us. that's why they destroy their past. that's what france does. yeah that's what does. is it? yeah that's what standards i would yeah standards there i would yeah of course, usually course, of course. but usually they bother catching them they don't bother catching them because they know they're heading britain. they're heading for britain. they're using against using it as leverage against britain. can all britain. i think we can all egree— britain. i think we can all egree wet— britain. i think we can all agree that there's- 2 i think we can all agree that there's been a of agree that there's been a lot of trench— agree that there's been a lot of french failing— agree that there's been a lot of french failing-it- agree that there's been a lot of french failing it comes to french failing when it comes to tinie— french failing when it comes to this-situation. - french failing when it comes to this situation. vv/rzi;riv 2 this whole situation. yeah. aitnowgn— this whole situation. yeah. although there an although i think wasn't there an article recently said that more people up in france than try people end up in france than try and to the is and come through to the uk, is that right? yeah more people in germany so very germany as well. so it's very easy to the narrative as if easy to get the narrative as if somehow the number comes somehow the largest number comes to us. it really doesn't matter unless start the unless you start having the argument about the numbers. okay, well next we're going to

move observer. this is move on to the observer. this is a about move on to the observer. this is a-about troubled,- move on to the observer. this is a-about troubled, unruly. a story about troubled, unruly eoiwooi— a story about troubled, unruly school children. _ a story about troubled, unruly school children. where is louis sweeter— school children. where is louis schaefer-disruptivel schaefer tonight? disruptive behaviour pupil behaviour leaves excluded pupil units burst. units in england to full burst. what excluded pupils units. what are excluded pupils units. so what are excluded pupils units. so it— what are excluded pupils units. so it won— what are excluded pupils units. so if you exclude— what are excluded pupils units. so if you exclude a— what are excluded pupils units. so if you exclude a pupil,- so if you exclude a pupil, there's place you send there's a place you can send them to for when you read the article, it comes across as temporary retrain the temporary retrain thing. the idea should get someone temporary retrain thing. the idea into should get someone temporary retrain thing. the idea into the iould get someone temporary retrain thing. the idea into the idea get someone temporary retrain thing. the idea into the idea ofet someone temporary retrain thing. the idea into the idea of school.)ne back into the idea of school. it's not working. in my day, that—roughest. that was just the roughest eowooi— that was just the roughest school-the- that was just the roughest school the road. vv/rzi;riv 2 that was just the roughest- school-the road. yeah. do school down the road. yeah. do you— school down the road. yeah. do wow wow— school down the road. yeah. do you know what i went to one of those schools, the school where i went to, we received everyone who from these who was excluded from all these schools exactly > yeah, schools around. exactly > yeah, but. now, if i'm but. but now, if i'm understanding this right, there are understanding this right, therei are these specific places where tite—tnew-re- are these specific places where kids _they're so l kids are so unruly, they're so out—inw- kids are so unruly, they're so out—they need- kids are so unruly, they're so. out—they need their out of control. they need their ow-nrioen— out of control. they need their ow-nrioen i- out of control. they need their own prison, i suppose. own kind of prison, i suppose. wew— own kind of prison, i suppose. ween-i— own kind of prison, i suppose. ween-i ton-t— own kind of prison, i suppose. yeah-i don't think- own kind of prison, i suppose. yeah i don't think it's yeah well, i don't think it's new— yeah well, i don't think it's wewtlte— yeah well, i don't think it's meant-be-at- yeah well, i don't think it's meant-be-at as. yeah well, i don't think it's- meantlbe-at as well. meant to be looked at as well. its— meant to be looked at as well. its not— meant to be looked at as well. its not-to— meant to be looked at as well. it's not-to.looked- meant to be looked at as well. it's not-to.looked at. it's not meant to be looked at as it's meant to be as a prison. it's meant to be a place where you can maybe have a bit more focussed tuition to try and coach person back into and coach this person back into school. what it is. school. it's not what it is. they're already full. they're oversubscribed and there's pressure to pressure on these places to take more than they more people than they have places, pupils they places, more pupils than they have wonder what have places. i wonder what will happen question i've happen then. the question i've got,—

happen then. the question i've got-wonw— happen then. the question i've got-wonw, ie- happen then. the question i've got,-though, is why- happen then. the question i've got,-though, is why are. got, steve, though, is why are were—who- got, steve, though, is why are there—who arej got, steve, though, is why are. there _who are so there so many pupils who are so tierwtiwe— there so many pupils who are so tierwtiwe, eo— there so many pupils who are so disruptive, so unruly, that the eoiwooie— disruptive, so unruly, that the schools—deal. schools can't actually deal with twent— schools can't actually deal with went—wowe- schools can't actually deal with| them?_move them them? they have to move them on to—wite - them? they have to move them on to—wite iwol to these specialised units. two answers _would . to these specialised units. two answers _would be| answers for you. one would be kids are worse these days or under funding a decade. under funding for a decade. your tribe will tell you which one you're it? you're meant to believe. is it? could a bit of both? could it not be a bit of both? i mean, it could be. but your tribe will tell you which tribe will still tell you which one to i have one you're meant to be. i have no tribe. if you've got no tribe. no, but if you've got one, you've got one, you'll one, if you've got one, you'll be saying, definitely be saying, oh, it's definitely all underfunding. be saying, oh, it's definitely all you're unding. be saying, oh, it's definitely all you're undi of few nicholas, you're one of the few right wing comedians on the circuit. so you us. circuit. so you can tell us. wiret— circuit. so you can tell us. wnet toee— circuit. so you can tell us. what does your— it. 222 g so you can tell us. what does your say circuit. so you can tell us.- what does your-say about what does your tribe say about the what does your tribe say about gig—gigg- what does your tribe say about tire—twee dol what does your tribe say abouti the _this? do you the explanation for this? do you wint— the explanation for this? do you think—children- think it's because children are genereiiw— think it's because children are generally—controll generally more out of control tteee— generally more out of controli tweee—ot generally more out of control- tweee—ot tnew these days? i mean, some of them are incorrigible. don't are incorrigible. they don't even recognise that. of even recognise that. some of their might cats, their classmates might be cats, you believe they you know, can you believe they have but have to be expelled? yeah, but but why but the bottom line is that why why this is what the why should and this is what the lady because was lady in question because she was in of pr us in charge of one of these pr us these detention or re—education facilities. stands for facilities. yeah. pru stands for pupil referral units. i mean, it sounds scary to me . pupil sounds scary to me. pupil referral. and she has left that job in order to help schools actually keep these people. and she needs the schools need to be given tools to actually

re—educate them and help them within the rather than within the schools rather than expelling them. i think even trow— expelling them. i think even trow tire— expelling them. i think even from the left— expelling them. i think even from the left there's- expelling them. i think even from the left there's a- 2g i think even from the left there's a case for saying— from the left there's a case for eewing, got,— from the left there's a case for saying, look, let's— from the left there's a case for saying, look, let's just reinstate— saying, look, let's just - reinstate _ schools reinstate discipline in schools tewee— reinstate discipline in schoolsi teowee—tite because it's better for the kids tewee— because it's better for the kids because kids— because it's better for the kids because kids actually thrive when— because kids actually thrive wiwen wew— because kids actually thrive when they have— because kids actually thrive when they have boundaries, rightw— when they have boundaries, rigiwtt wett— when they have boundaries, right? well,-i- when they have boundaries, right? well, i mean , i right? well, yeah. i mean, i ton-t— right? well, yeah. i mean, i ton-t-tnet-e- don't think that's a reactionary, old fashioned conservative— reactionary, old fashioned conservative position particularly. no, no, that's exactly have to be exactly it doesn't have to be old have the idea old fashioned to have the idea that schools, as that discipline in schools, as long it's ridiculous, old long as it's not ridiculous, old fashioned related fashioned cane related discipline. not saying discipline. no, i'm not saying thrash . yeah, exactly. there's discipline. no, i'm not saying thrasian yeah, exactly. there's discipline. no, i'm not saying thrasian iron, exactly. there's discipline. no, i'm not saying thrasian iron maiden. there's discipline. no, i'm not saying thrasian iron maiden orhere's discipline. no, i'm not saying thrasian iron maiden or anything been an iron maiden or anything like that. and that help like that. and that will help people should be people learn. so it should be seen as we could sell it as a good to some trouble. well, i found shocking— good to some trouble. well, i found shocking is— good to some trouble. well, i found shocking is that- 32 well, i found shocking is that she says twe— found shocking is that she says we net— found shocking is that she says i've had children— found shocking is that she says i've had children spit at me, titt— i've had children spit at me, tiot-eweer- i've had children spit at me, kick-swearlme. i've had children spit at me, kick-swearlme .i i've had children spit at me,| kick-swearlme . if kick me and swear at me. if you twent— kick me and swear at me. if you haven't-experience- kick me and swear at me. if you haven't-experience .- haven't had that experience. iiie— haven't had that experience. itie eort— haven't had that experience. itie eort ot— haven't had that experience. this sort of behaviour can be new— this sort of behaviour can be really daunting.— this sort of behaviour can be really daunting. so imagine tteee— really daunting. so imagine tteee poor— really daunting. so imagine these poor teachers, you know, we eireetw— these poor teachers, you know, we already have— these poor teachers, you know, we already have national tv ads trwing— we already have national tv ads trwing to— we already have national tv ads trwing to recruit— we already have national tv ads trying to recruit teachers for orwei— trying to recruit teachers for normal schools. _ trying to recruit teachers for normal schools. never mind teewere— normal schools. never mind teewere ere— normal schools. never mind teachers are supposed to be teeting— teachers are supposed to be teeting witn— teachers are supposed to be dealing with this sort of facilities— dealing with this sort of facilities .— dealing with this sort of facilities . well, you know, facilities. well, you know, wegner-e— facilities. well, you know, wagner's available . �*vwa2rzi;2 facilities. well, you know, wagner's available . �*vwa2i2 wagner's available. when i was at wagner's available. when i was et sweet.— wagner's available. when i was at school, there was one kid who used to throw chairs at the

teachers and stuff like that, used to throw chairs at the teacher: kept stuff like that, used to throw chairs at the teacherzkept stuffmaybeiat, were and we kept him. maybe we were the were the the school, maybe we were the school. like it. school. yeah. sounds like it. making me re—evaluate my childhood tells you childhood now my tribe tells you we obligatory military we need obligatory military service again . there it is. service again. there it is. well, i knew he'd get there eventually. okay, on to the express now. there's controversy around ulez. no, that's not a slur for gay women. it it's a bbc shenanigans. nicholas, what's this? you should know because you used to work at the bbc you can tell us. yeah bbc so you can tell us. yeah okay, so this is. this is a wonderful— okay, so this is. this is a wonderful again, thanks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe rful again, thanks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe producers again, thanks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe producers ..gain, thanks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe producers . iain, thanks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe producers . i knowranks okay, so this is. this is a wcthe producers . i know itiks to the producers. i know it wont— to the producers. i know it etowit te— to the producers. i know it should be random, but yeah, so teeioeitw— should be random, but yeah, so teeioeiiw, we— should be random, but yeah, so basically, we have— should be random, but yeah, so basically, we have had a bbc iowrneiiet— basically, we have had a bbc journalist-has- basically, we have had a bbc journalist has turned journalist who has turned whistleblower_ journalist who has turned whistleblower and he has provided— whistleblower and he has provided reform uk who happened to eieo— provided reform uk who happened to eieo newe— provided reform uk who happened to eieo newe e— provided reform uk who happened to also have a mayoral candidate for to also have a mayoral candidate tor ionton— to also have a mayoral candidate for london with— to also have a mayoral candidate for london with information. let me for london with information. let we rew— for london with information. let we reet tire— for london with information. let me read the title. _ for london with information. let me read the title. first whistleblower accuses bbc bosses of whistleblower accuses bbc bosses ot coiiweion— whistleblower accuses bbc bosses of collusion with— whistleblower accuses bbc bosses of collusion with sadiq khan to sitenoe— of collusion with sadiq khan to sitenoe wiz— of collusion with sadiq khan to silence ulez criticism is initieiiw— silence ulez criticism is initially bbc— silence ulez criticism is initially bbc journalists at ieeet— initially bbc journalists at ieeet in— initially bbc journalists at least in this— initially bbc journalists at least in this department, have newe— least in this department, have newe teen— least in this department, have have been told— least in this department, have have been told that any story wont— have been told that any story about malcolm— have been told that any story about malcolm attend or protests egeinet— about malcolm attend or protests egeinet wiz— about malcolm attend or protests against ulez must—

about malcolm attend or protests against ulez must be first ennrowet— against ulez must be first ennrowet tw— against ulez must be first approved by the highest order. wigneet— approved by the highest order. highest editorial— approved by the highest order. highest editorial lviv ulez is the highest editorial lviv ulez is tire titre— highest editorial lviv ulez is the ultra low— highest editorial lviv ulez is the ultra low emission zone, witn— the ultra low emission zone, with ie— the ultra low emission zone, which is exactly— the ultra low emission zone, which is exactly projects the wee— which is exactly projects the itee were— which is exactly projects the idea here that— which is exactly projects the idea here that sadiq khan or swig— idea here that sadiq khan or swig tiww-e— idea here that sadiq khan or sadiq khan's office has been putting— sadiq khan's office has been putting pressure— sadiq khan's office has been putting pressure on the bbc and eewing,— putting pressure on the bbc and eewing, toot,— putting pressure on the bbc and eewing, toot, it— putting pressure on the bbc and saying, look, if you're going to be saying, look, if you're going to toe-ot— saying, look, if you're going to te-ot tinie— saying, look, if you're going to te-ot tnie or- be critical of this or effectively - be critical of this or effectively trying ward off effectively trying to ward off wet— effectively trying to ward off twet tint — effectively trying to ward off that kind of— effectively trying to ward off that kind of criticism. but wnet-e— that kind of criticism. but what's-about- that kind of criticism. but what's about steve, what's weird about this, steve, is, as nicholas says, is bbc executives passing executives are actually passing that true , we that off. if this is true, we should clarify if this whistleblower accurate, whistleblower is accurate, passing an edict to passing on that as an edict to members bbc saying members of the bbc saying basically basically , let's be basically basically, let's be politically partisan. is that right ? well, i mean, you've got right? well, i mean, you've got the right? well, i mean, you've got tire twit— right? well, i mean, you've got tire twit eew. — right? well, i mean, you've got tire twit eew. i— right? well, i mean, you've got the full say. i used— right? well, i mean, you've got the full say. i used to- 2 327 well, i mean, you've got the full say. i used to work for tne— the full say. i used to work for tire teet— the full say. i used to work for tire new ee— the full say. i used to work for the beeb as well.— the full say. i used to work for the beeb as well. did you? yeah, wt— the beeb as well. did you? yeah, wt i— the beeb as well. did you? yeah, wt i eeet— the beeb as well. did you? yeah, wt i wet to— the beeb as well. did you? yeah, and i used to work— the beeb as well. did you? yeah, and i used to work on the radio in—weel in the south east, which was oo—eitet— in the south east, which was co—sited with— in the south east, which was co—sited with bbc south east. so i co—sited with bbc south east. so i tnow— co—sited with bbc south east. so i tnow tire— co—sited with bbc south east. so i know the people— co—sited with bbc south east. so i know the people there talking wont— i know the people there talking about-actually- i know the people there talking about actually have about this. i actually have wortet— about this. i actually havei wortet—ee about this. i actually have- worked_as well worked with howard cox as well tetore—twrni before because he used to turn up—i- before because he used to turn wn—i titl up on that radio show. i did towe— up on that radio show. i did toete wt— up on that radio show. i did loads and i'm— up on that radio show. i did loads and i'm no- up on that radio show. i did loads and i'm no fan of the wiz— loads and i'm no fan of the tittzli— loads and i'm no fan of the ml to— loads and i'm no fan of the ulez,-i do have- loads and i'm no fan of the ulez, i do have to loads and i'm no fan of the. ulez,-i do have to .you ulez, but i do have to say you toot—wt- ulez, but i do have to say you look—and realise. look at this story and realise tinie— look at this story and realise tnie ie— look at this story and realise tnie ie ieet— look at this story and realise this is just what— look at this story and realise this is just what the bbc is tite— this is just what the bbc is iiteltiwew— this is just what the bbc is like. they complaints, like. if they get complaints, twen— like. if they get complaints, wen—getting- then this is about getting more ewee— then this is about getting more senior eyes looking over eowetning. — senior eyes looking over something. _so- senior eyes looking over something. so you senior eyes looking over-

something. _so you don't something. okay, so you don't not— something. okay, so you don't not eewing— something. okay, so you don't not saying-stories- something. okay, so you don't not saying stories will be not saying the stories will be etonneri— not saying the stories will be wwnen-tire— not saying the stories will be stopped, the boss is higher stopped, but the boss is higher up. stopped, but the boss is higher up- _a_ stopped, but the boss is higher in. —e-et- stopped, but the boss is higher in. —e-et it| up. need to have a look at it teee— up. need to have a look at it because—worriedj because they are too worried etoet— because they are too worried wow-.— because they are too worried about-.lshouldn'tj about criticism. it shouldn't be about criticism. it shouldn't be e ient— about criticism. it shouldn't be e iettlrigtt— about criticism. it shouldn't be a left-right-this- about criticism. it shouldn't be a left-right-this is. a left or right thing. this is tne— a left or right thing. this is twe—wtere- a left or right thing. this is the _where clive a left or right thing. this is- the _where clive murray the same week where clive murray weent— the same week where clive murray ween-t—reet— the same week where clive murray wasn't—read some- the same week where clive murray wasn't read some news wasn't allowed to read some news teee— wasn't allowed to read some news because _criticism - because of fear of criticism trow — because of fear of criticism trow .rigtt— because of fear of criticism trow-rigtt .— because of fear of criticism from-right . this- because of fear of criticism from right. this is fear of from the right. this is fear of oritioiew. — from the right. this is fear of criticism. _thinkl criticism. so you don't think ite— criticism. so you don't think. it-e—tte it's because the majority of the we— it's because the majority of the ttc-ere — it's because the majority of the ttc-ere in— it's because the majority of the bbc are in tandem bbc staff are in tandem ideologically— bbc staff are in tandem ideologically sadiq bbc staff are in tandem- ideologically-sadiq khan? ideologically with sadiq khan? they— ideologically with sadiq khan? inew wee.— ideologically with sadiq khan? inew yesr no— ideologically with sadiq khan? inew yesr no .— ideologically with sadiq khan? inew yesr no . on.— ideologically with sadiq khan? they yes, no . oh, well,- ideologically with sadiq khan? they yes, no. oh, well, nicholas says yes . yes. but then why is says yes. yes. but then why is were— says yes. yes. but then why is ttere ttie— says yes. yes. but then why is there this worry— says yes. yes. but then why is there this worry of— «wilt? v/rzi;~ir but then why is there this worry of taking clive wwrie— there this worry of taking clive iwwrie otto— there this worry of taking clive myrie off? news— there this worry of taking clive myrie off? news when he's done? tewe— myrie off? news when he's done? tewe i— myrie off? news when he's done? tewe i got— myrie off? news when he's done? newe i got newe— myrie off? news when he's done? have i got news for— myrie off? news when he's done? have i got news for you? i think wew— have i got news for you? i think ttew tewe— have i got news for you? i think ttew tewe tte— have i got news for you? i think they have the occasional wiotoiee— they have the occasional nicholas there. to they have the occasional nicholas there. \vvz?v they have the occasional nicholas there. thit 2 2 c nicholas there. no, but i don't think it has to. i think it's to— think it has to. i think it's more to .with- think it has to. i think it's more to .with the - think it has to. i think it's- more to .with the guidelines more to do with the guidelines of more to do with the guidelines ot-ttc— more to do with the guidelines ot-ttc wt— more to do with the guidelines of-bbc and _tying- of the bbc and them tying themselves— of the bbc and them tying themselves sure themselves in knots to make sure ttew-we— themselves in knots to make sure ttew-we tone— themselves in knots to make sure they've done compliance all they've done compliance and all of they've done compliance and all ot—ttet- they've done compliance and all ot—ttet teetl of these long things that keep ttew — of these long things that keepj ttew _twt of these long things that keep- ttew _twt wnet them employed. i agree. but what happens producer or former happens as a producer or former producer, know that when producer, you know that when they the story is they say because the story is true by way, bbc true. by the way, the bbc official here doesn't hasn't denied it. they have only said that not a rare that this is not a rare occasion. but as a producer , you occasion. but as a producer, you know, once they say, oh, some stories, it needs the stories, red flag, it needs the highest level of clearance. as a producer, you just bother producer, you just don't bother

going your big boss to going after your big boss to bother them. no, it's not. you're failing because you you will have another job interview will have anotherjob interview within the bbc when they will ask many times ask you, okay, how many times did refer up your did you refer things up to your boss? a good thing did you refer things up to your bo bother a good thing did you refer things up to your bo bother your a good thing did you refer things up to your bo bother your a g because ] to bother your bosses because you be independent. so you need to be independent. so you need to be independent. so you say, you know, might as you say, you know, you might as well any feathers well not not ruffle any feathers and drop story and just drop the story altogether. well, that's interesting. _ interesting. we've got insight ttere— interesting. we've got insight- ttere—producer there from a former bbc producer ttere.— there from a former bbc producer ttere. anwwew— there from a former bbc producer there. anyway, finally, sunday's intetentent— there. anyway, finally, sunday's independent working from home has independent working from home tee tet— independent working from home tee tet no— independent working from home has had no impact on government trotwotiwitw— has had no impact on government trotwotiwitw .— has had no impact on government productivity . motty_ has had no impact on government productivity . motty what do you productivity. motty what do you ttint— productivity. motty what do you ttint ot— productivity. motty what do you think of this? _ productivity. motty what do you think of this? v/tzi;riv 2 2 think of this? yeah, i mean, the stats say you're working from home. no on government home. no impact on government productivity despite productivity. motty despite demands to office, demands to return to office, some said that this some people have said that this should require some apology should then require some apology . as for those have been . as for those who have been rather to those who work rather mean to those who work from includes jacob from home, which includes jacob rees—mogg, a man who rees—mogg, admittedly a man who was down on was photographed lying down on the benches of the house of commons. just a commons. so he's just having a nap. people do at nap. yeah. which people do at towe. — nap. yeah. which people do at towe. ant— nap. yeah. which people do at home. and-boris- yeah. which people do at home. . 22 home. and also boris johnson said people from home, said that people work from home, spend walking spend all their day walking slowly to fridge to eat slowly to the fridge to eat cheese newspaper cheese. the first newspaper column the mail for column he did for the mail for the daily mail was

the saturday daily mail was about his recent addiction to cheese projection. much which he was working from home, were too busy with cheese, and he was i mean, it was a it was a joke. he says working at home- he says working at home involves getting— he says working at home involves getting ”pt— he says working at home involves getting up, walking very slowly to tte— getting up, walking very slowly to tte tritge— getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge,-off- to the fridge, hacking off a wet— to the fridge, hacking off a small-cheese,- small piece of cheese, then wetting— small piece of cheese, then walking—back. small piece of cheese, then walking—back your walking very slowly back to your iettot — walking very slowly back to your iettot—wteti laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing. he's toting. — it was you're doing. he's toting. -iitel it was you're doing. he's- joking. _like that's joking. it seems like that's what he was doing when he should have running country. what he was doing when he should havwas running country. what he was doing when he should havwas havingiing country. what he was doing when he should havwas having to; country. what he was doing when he should havwas having to; injections he was having to take injections to old edam. to keep him off the old edam. what i want to know about this is what i want to know about this ie—tnowt- what i want to know about this ie—tnowt i- what i want to know about this is_know? i mean,| is how do they know? i mean, ttew-re— they're talking about how ttew-we— they're talking about how. they've _civil they've decided in the civil eerwoe— they've decided in the civil service _ been . service that there's been no iwteot— impact on productivity whatsoever— impact on productivity whatsoever this impact on productivity whatsoever-this of whatsoever with this kind of worting— whatsoever with this kind ofi worting—teit whatsoever with this kind of. working—half in working from home and half in the working from home and half in tte—ttew- working from home and half in tte—ttew tnow| the office. how do they know ttet— the office. how do they know ttet eweotiw— the office. how do they know that exactly if— the office. how do they know that exactly if work that exactly if the work result is that exactly if the work result ie-wt — that exactly if the work result is-and measured- that exactly if the work result is and measured , well, is tangible and measured, well, ttew— is tangible and measured, well, ttew nototw— is tangible and measured, well, then nobody has— is tangible and measured, well, then nobody has anything to wonw— then nobody has anything to wonw-toe- then nobody has anything to worry-you know,- then nobody has anything to| worry-you know, the worry about. you know, the employer and employee. but employer and the employee. but this those murky this happens in those murky areas when, you know, a few emails you emails are exchanged and you don't any particular don't have any particular tangible product to be measured at the civil servants in work. i think they, you know, i don't tite— i think they, you know, i don't iite ttew— i think they, you know, i don't iite ttew werw— i think they, you know, i don't like them very much and i want ttew — like them very much and i want ttew ttere. — like them very much and i want them there. the— like them very much and i want them there. t2.tit. like them very much and i want them there. ti.tit. them there. the count at that point be there's no point would be there's no tangible would

tangible evidence that would show that productivity has gone down. to come up down. you've failed to come up with a reason to not work from home. we should home. yeah, i agree. we should do home. yeah, i agree. we should rto-towe— home. yeah, i agree. we should to-towe. ieet- home. yeah, i agree. we should do-home. just zoom. home. yeah, i agree. we should do-home. just zoom in do this from home. just zoom in on-iettote — do this from home. just zoom in on-iettote -noti- do this from home. just zoom in on-laptops.-not? it- on our laptops. why not? it ewwe-tte— on our laptops. why not? it seems-the trend- on our laptops. why not? it seems the trend the seems to be the trend at the wont— seems to be the trend at thei wowent—ie seems to be the trend at the- wowent—ie eit moment anyway. look, that is all wove—tert- moment anyway. look, that is all we-we—tert to l we've got time for in part two. tet— we've got time for in part two. but-upr— we've got time for in part two. but-“pr were- we've got time for in part two. but up, we're going to but coming up, we're going to be towering— but coming up, we're going to be towering-teting. - but coming up, we're going to be covering dating. tried covering far right dating. tried tieg— flag hating and government ewotionet— flag hating and government sanctioned masticating. you reent— sanctioned masticating. you were ttet— sanctioned masticating. you heard that right. stick around

through until 7:00 this evening. gb through until 7:00 this evening. or tewe— through until 7:00 this evening. or tewe ire— through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel gb news the people's. channel weieowe— gb news the people's. channel weieowe teet— gb news the people's. channel welcome back to— gb news the people's. channel welcome back to headliners . your welcome back to headliners. your first look at sunday's newspapers . we're going to jump newspapers. we're going to jump back straight in with the mail now with an article that's clearly written by someone who's very homophobic and totally intolerant. what's this, nicholas? he's actually a gay , rigrti— nicholas? he's actually a gay man , right? just— vt 2“ he's actually a gay man , right? just what is it? i man, right? just what is it? i tite— man, right? just what is it? i iite trie— man, right? just what is it? i like this story— man, right? just what is it? i like this story because i'm a bit like this story because i'm a tit ot— like this story because i'm a bit of vexillologist a flag bit of a vexillologist a flag enthusiast— bit of a vexillologist a flag enthusiast .— bit of a vexillologist a flag enthusiast . and this article is enthusiast. and this article is wow— enthusiast. and this article is etoet tre— enthusiast. and this article is about the evolution of the lgbt. wiii— about the evolution of the lgbt. wiii i— about the evolution of the lgbt. wiii i get— about the evolution of the lgbt. wiii i get into— about the evolution of the lgbt. will i get into trouble if i ton-t— will i get into trouble if i don't mention— will i get into trouble if i don't mention q ba.2 us. plus you— don't mention q ba.2 us. plus wow got— don't mention q ba.2 us. plus wow got it— don't mention q ba.2 us. plus wow got it eit— don't mention q ba.2 us. plus you got it all there. yeah, ttere— you got it all there. yeah, ttere wigrt— you got it all there. yeah, there might be- you got it all there. yeah, there might be an evolution by there might be an evolution by tte ent— there might be an evolution by

tte ent ot— there might be an evolution by the end of the— there might be an evolution by the end of the show. it says wren— the end of the show. it says wren i— the end of the show. it says wren i wee— the end of the show. it says when i was growing up, right, a reintow— when i was growing up, right, a reintow tieg— when i was growing up, right, a rainbow flag was— when i was growing up, right, a rainbow flag was a— when i was growing up, right, a rainbow flag was a shining teon— rainbow flag was a shining teeoon—tetl rainbow flag was a shining- beacon_but these beacon of tolerance. but these ugly— beacon of tolerance. but these wgiw new— beacon of tolerance. but these ugly new versions— beacon of tolerance. but these ugly new versions are divisive, twgeroee— ugly new versions are divisive, twgeroee wt— ugly new versions are divisive, dangerous, and deeply homophobic. okay, now , i know homophobic. okay, now, i know a bit homophobic. okay, now, i know a tit etoet— homophobic. okay, now, i know a bit about this- homophobic. okay, now, i know a bit about this because i wrote trie— bit about this because i wrote trie ertioie. — bit about this because i wrote this article. i'm— bit about this because i wrote this article. i'm not happy that it's in the show. i didn't put it's in the show. i didn't put it the the producer put it in the show. the producer put it in the show. the producer put it show. i wonder if it in the show. i wonder if we've got any pictures of the flags. got them, we flags. if we have got them, we should the should show them. steve the argument this argument i'm making in this article rainbow article is that the rainbow flag meant something like the six stripe thing meant about stripe rainbow thing meant about tolerance unity, and tolerance and unity, and everyone included. everyone was included. you didn't have and didn't need to have black and brown racial brown stripes for racial minorities. to minorities. you didn't have to have symbols people have intersex symbols for people born ambiguous born with ambiguous sex characteristics, need characteristics, you didn't need trans one there has trans colours that one there has got the autism symbol. it's a bit of a mess is the argument here. ireally bit of a mess is the argument here. i really like the argument ttet— here. i really like the argument ttet woe— here. i really like the argument ttet wow wete— here. i really like the argument that you make that— 2t:i2t:i; i really like the argument that you make that the rainbow is that you make that the rainbow ie wewt— that you make that the rainbow is meant encompassing is meant to be all encompassing teee— because effectively the rainbow is because effectively the rainbow ie-tor— because effectively the rainbow ie-tor tre— because effectively the rainbow is-for the full- is shorthand for the full eteotrew — is shorthand for the full spectrum light , which is shorthand for the full spectrum light, which has all spectrum of light, which has all of spectrum of light, which has all ot-ooiowe— spectrum of light, which has all of-coloursllight- spectrum of light, which has all of-coloursllight in- spectrum of light, which has all of colours light in it. of the colours of light in it. it of the colours of light in it. it-eii— of the colours of light in it. it-all everything. of the colours of light in it. it-all everything . it is indeed all everything. ant— it is indeed all everything. ant ttet— it is indeed all everything. and that there— it is indeed all everything. and that there was- it is indeed all everything. and that there was something quite that quite pure about that and simple, that was the simple, you know, that was the point. the couple things point. the a couple of things that eventually if you that i mean eventually if you keep it, it keep adding things to it, it

ends up becoming more exclusive until will just be until eventually it will just be a flag with loads of stuff it a flag with loads of stuff on it and a thing down the bottom saying, dave, because saying, not you dave, because that's the only one who's not involved. i are . involved. also, i still are. trie— involved. also, i still are. this-slightly— 2 also, i still are. this slightly tangential. this is slightly tangential. i wee-e trini- this is slightly tangential. i- was-a third _your was actually a third point. your tie—going- was actually a third point. your tie—goinglte- was actually a third point. your tie—goinglbe the| tie is probably going to be the .new tieg — tie is probably going to be the new, new flag, this one that new, the new flag, this one that worti— new, the new flag, this one that wowit eiwtiitw— new, the new flag, this one that would simplify it.— new, the new flag, this one that would simplify it. i get annoyed ttet— would simplify it. i get annoyed ttet-reorie— would simplify it. i get annoyed that-people think- would simplify it. i get annoyed that people think that the that the people think that the reintow— that the people think that the reintow rw— that the people think that the rainbow has purple in it. from the rainbow has purple in it. from tte eong— rainbow has purple in it. from the song there's— rainbow has purple in it. from the song there's no purple in tre— the song there's no purple in tte reintow.— the song there's no purple in the rainbow. violet . the rainbow. no, it's violet. tewee— the rainbow. no, it's violet. because purple— the rainbow. no, it's violet. because purple needs to be mixed of because purple needs to be mixed ot tire— because purple needs to be mixed ot tire wt— because purple needs to be mixed of blue and red.— because purple needs to be mixed of blue and red. they're the ottoeite— of blue and red. they're the ottoeite ente— of blue and red. they're the opposite ends of— of blue and red. they're the opposite ends of the trust you to-trie— opposite ends of the trust you to-trie e— opposite ends of the trust you to-this a scientific- to make this a scientific gneetion— to make this a scientific gneetion. it— to make this a scientific question. it just me. question. it just bothers me. wett— question. it just bothers me. weir-.— question. it just bothers me. weii-. ttoegt- question. it just bothers me. well-, though, steve.- question. it just bothers me. l well-, though, steve. well well done, though, steve. well done. anyway, we're going to move now is move on. this one now is sunday's independent. and this is about drag queens. drag queens, steve are in the press a lot at the moment. what's going on are well, court on here? they are well, a court issue, halts issue, federal court halts florida's , calling it florida's drag ban, calling it an attempt to suppress the speech rights of performers. can you just what the you just clarify what was the drag i think drag ban? because i think there's of confusion there's been a lot of confusion about its current there's been a lot of confusion aboutthe its current there's been a lot of confusion aboutthe idea its current there's been a lot of confusion aboutthe idea is its current there's been a lot of confusion aboutthe idea is the :urrent there's been a lot of confusion aboutthe idea is the issues form, the idea is the issues over things like drag queen story hour, i believe . and then story hour, i believe. and then ron story hour, i believe. and then iton teswtie— story hour, i believe. and then ron desantis comes— story hour, i believe. and then ron desantis comes up-

2g 2 and then ron desantis comes up with this plan— ron desantis comes up with this ttew trie— ron desantis comes up with this ttew, trie tew— ron desantis comes up with this plan, this law to— ron desantis comes up with this plan, this law to ban it, which is plan, this law to ban it, which ie greet. — plan, this law to ban it, which ie greet. toe— plan, this law to ban it, which is great. you have— plan, this law to ban it, which is great. you have a law that tree— is great. you have a law that triee to— is great. you have a law that tries to protect— is great. you have a law that tries to protect children, reorie— tries to protect children, teotte-te - tries to protect children, teotte-te in- tries to protect children, people be in favour of people will be in favour of trie— people will be in favour of twe-tre— people will be in favour of this,-the judges- people will be in favour of. this,-the judges-said this, but the judges have said ttet— this, but the judges have said that-overbroad- this, but the judges have said that-overbroad ,- this, but the judges have said that overbroad , which that it is overbroad, which is a weird— that it is overbroad, which is a weird-ite— that it is overbroad, which is a weird-it's-wide- that it is overbroad, which is al weird-it's-wide that weird phrase. it's too wide that tewee— weird phrase. it's too wide that because _with- weird phrase. it's too wide that because _with a- weird phrase. it's too wide that because with a good because this law with a good goei— because this law with a good goei twit— because this law with a good goei ooeit te— because this law with a good goal could be used to infringe the goal could be used to infringe tte-tre— goal could be used to infringe the the performing the right, the performing rigrte— the right, the performing rights, effectively free rights, which effectively free eteeor — rights, which effectively free eteeor rigtte— rights, which effectively free speech rights. the judge makes an speech rights. the judge makesj wo—tw an interesting point lower down in—tret— an interesting point lower down in—tret tree- an interesting point lower down in that free speech in this article that free speech rigtte— in this article that free speech rigrte eroeit— in this article that free speech rights should be— in this article that free speech rights should be given to sexual eteeor. — rights should be given to sexual erwon-ie— rights should be given to sexual eteeor. -ie not— rights should be given to sexual speech. is not offensive in speech. that is not offensive in the speech. that is not offensive in tte eewe— speech. that is not offensive in tte wew— speech. that is not offensive in the same way as— speech. that is not offensive in the same way as to— speech. that is not offensive in the same way as to political eteeor— the same way as to political eteeor or— the same way as to political speech or scientific speech. tet— speech or scientific speech. tut ite— speech or scientific speech. tut its not— speech or scientific speech. but it's not a— speech or scientific speech. but it's not a free- speech or scientific speech. but it's not a free speech violation to that drag violation to say that drag queens twerk or do highly queens can't twerk or do highly sexualised performances around children. so what need a children. so what you need is a tew— children. so what you need is a iew-tret.— children. so what you need is a law-that. that- children. so what you need is a law-that. that can't. law that bans that. that can't be law that bans that. that can't te-or— law that bans that. that can't be or misinterpreted to be late or misinterpreted to new— be late or misinterpreted to reeet e— be late or misinterpreted to create a restriction of. is that tre— create a restriction of. is that the problem here, nicholas, that they just haven't been clear about their legislation? well, quite judge quite staggeringly. the judge rere— quite staggeringly. the judge rereietge— quite staggeringly. the judge here, judge parker, has here, judge thomas parker, has eeit— here, judge thomas parker, has eeit in— here, judge thomas parker, has eeit in tie— here, judge thomas parker, has said in his explanation of the verdict— said in his explanation of the verdict that— said in his explanation of the verdict that there is a distinction— verdict that there is a distinction between sexually ewniioit— distinction between sexually extiioit wt— distinction between sexually explicit and sexually obscene . explicit and sexually obscene. andr— explicit and sexually obscene. ant, woe— explicit and sexually obscene. ant, wow tnow,— explicit and sexually obscene. and, you know, interestingly woew— and, you know, interestingly enowgr, tre— and, you know, interestingly enough, the lawsuit has been troegrt— enough, the lawsuit has been trowgrt wt— enough, the lawsuit has been trowgrt wt tw— enough, the lawsuit has been brought ”p by a_ enough, the lawsuit has been

brought up by a hamburger chain in writt— brought up by a hamburger chain in wrior ttew— brought up by a hamburger chain in which they had- brought up by a hamburger chain in which they had these maybe ewew— in which they had these maybe sexual obscene— in which they had these maybe sexual obscene but not explicit or tre— sexual obscene but not explicit or tte otter— sexual obscene but not explicit or the other way— sexual obscene but not explicit or the other way around performance. - or the other way around performance. nicholas, surely eeweitw— performance. nicholas, surely sexually obscene _ performance. nicholas, surely sexually obscene and sexually ewiioit— sexually obscene and sexually ewiioit tewe— sexually obscene and sexually explicit have no— sexually obscene and sexually explicit have no place in eorooie— explicit have no place in schools or— explicit have no place in schools or around children wwwew. — schools or around children wwwew. tet— schools or around children anyway. but that- schools or around children anyway. 'v'3vt anyway. but that distinction isn't really important. but that's judge is saying. that's what the judge is saying. yeah, surprise, you're yeah, but to my surprise, you're rigtt— yeah, but to my surprise, you're rigrt—te- yeah, but to my surprise, you're rigrt—te in| right that that shouldn't be in eoroot — right that that shouldn't be in eoroot _w- right that that shouldn't be in school. _law could. right that that shouldn't be in. school. _law could have school. but the law could have banned in an eatery. the banned it in an eatery. the eatery says, wait a minute, i should have should be able to have drag queens my burgers. queens deliver my burgers. and this stop me. okay, this law could stop me. okay, but if there's children- this law could stop me. okay, but if there's children in- 22 okay, but if there's children in the. tweotiw. — but if there's children in the. tweotiw. .toint— but if there's children in the. exactly.-point is,- but if there's children in the. exactly. point is, there's exactly. the point is, there's otiitren— exactly. the point is, there's. children—and children in the restaurant and ttew-re— children in the restaurant and they're-sexually- children in the restaurant and they're sexually explicit they're doing sexually explicit weteriet— they're doing sexually explicit material, -there - they're doing sexually explicit material, there is a reason material, then there is a reason to troritit— material, then there is a reason to prohibit that,— material, then there is a reason to prohibit that, isn't there? i wont— to prohibit that, isn't there? i wont trint— to prohibit that, isn't there? i don't think that's a free speech teew— don't think that's a free speech ieeeelreeiiw— don't think that's a free speech issue really don't. v/tzi;riv 2 issue. i really don't. yeah, tut.— issue. i really don't. yeah, twt. wett— issue. i really don't. yeah, but. well mean, this might be but. well i mean, this might be an there definition of an issue of there definition of free in america. i think free speech in america. i think a explicit queen a sexually explicit drag queen has every to a sexually has every right to do a sexually explicit show , not explicit show, but not in a hamburger restaurant where there are present. i it's are kids present. i think it's tint— are kids present. i think it's kind-brainer,- are kids present. i think it's kind-brainer, really. are kids present. i think it's kind-brainer, really .| kind of a no brainer, really. anwwew— kind of a no brainer, really. anyway — kind of a no brainer, really. anyway, we're going to move on to wow— anyway, we're going to move on to sunday times— anyway, we're going to move on to sunday times next. and the two— to sunday times next. and the two woet— to sunday times next. and the two most problematic dating growe— two most problematic dating growte towing— two most problematic dating groups coming together, right wing— groups coming together, right wing reorie— groups coming together, right wing people and the french law ,

wing people and the french law, wett— wing people and the french law, weit tetinet— wing people and the french law, well defined, problematic . well defined, problematic. wett— well defined, problematic. weii. wow— well defined, problematic. well, you know,— well defined, problematic. well, you know, this- well defined, problematic. well, you know, this is this is a beautiful story. look for mr far right , if a beautiful story. look for mr far right, if you pardon the pun , the dating site for french patriots. so basically it's a modern tool of getting people with similar views. and what was what's wrong with harmony far right supporters to find suitable dating matches. yeah but is it actually far right- but is it actually far right tewee— but is it actually far right tewee i— but is it actually far right because i read- but is it actually far right because i read this article and i because i read this article and i wont— because i read this article and i wont trint— because i read this article and i don't think the- because i read this article and i don't think the people running the i don't think the people running tte weteite— i don't think the people running the website call— i don't think the people running the website call it— i don't think the people running the website call it themselves far the website call it themselves ter rigtt— the website call it themselves ter rigrt. i— the website call it themselves far right. i think- the website call it themselves far right. i think .- the website call it themselves far right. i think . i think they far right. i think. i think they teit— far right. i think. i think they call _ patriots. - call themselves patriots. tetriote— call themselves patriots. patriots right. call themselves patriots. - patriots right. but-have call themselves patriots. - patriots right. but- have to patriots right. but you have to when you create your own profile, you have to express your . and your political affiliation. and the range is only are from marine le pen to eric zemmour to another right wing political party. interesting , party. so this is interesting, steve, in recent steve, because, look, in recent years, we've seen a lot of friends longer be friends friends no longer be friends because of a slight political disagreements. this is now quite the disagreements. this is now quite tte-ttet— disagreements. this is now quite tte-tret-wiii- the norm that people will cut reorie— the norm that people will cut worte—twee- the norm that people will cut people—lives if. people out of their lives if ttew— people out of their lives if they disagree— people out of their lives if they disagree with them. whereas teet— they disagree with them. whereas teot—teotie- they disagree with them. whereas back—people used- they disagree with them. whereas back people used to back in the day, people used to be back in the day, people used to te-tieegree— back in the day, people used to be-disagree and- back in the day, people used to be disagree and have be able to disagree and have relationships— be able to disagree and havej relationships—rest relationships and all the rest

of relationships and all the rest. ot—treee of it. so surely with with these tint— of it. so surely with with these kind-relationships- kind of relationships and wwiegee— kind of relationships and marriages and dating makes oowtiete— marriages and dating makes complete people complete sense. if people just went— complete sense. if people just went-wowe— complete sense. if people just| want-around-who want to be around people who egree—tre- want to be around people who egree—tte tiwei agree with them all the time, wewte—we - agree with them all the time, maybe _we need l agree with them all the time,| maybe _we need to maybe that's what we need to do . _wo— maybe that's what we need to do . -ant ite— maybe that's what we need to do . -ant ito-w- maybe that's what we need to do . _and it's-as if- maybe that's what we need to do . _and it's-as if the. . yeah. and it's not as if the left different. we've left is any different. we've seen pictures social left is any different. we've seen of pictures social left is any different. we've seen of people. social left is any different. we've seen of people wearingal left is any different. we've seen of people wearing the media of people wearing the t shirts never snogged shirts like never snogged a tory, i lean to the left, tory, which i lean to the left, but i can't statistically say. i mean, i'm sure just numbers wise . but do it on . but you wouldn't do it on trinoitie. — . but you wouldn't do it on principle. _have- but you wouldn't do it on principle. have snogged principle. i must have snogged ewe-veer.- principle. i must have snogged some-yeah, but- principle. i must have snogged some _yeah, but lib. some tourists. yeah, but lib dems couldn't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot couldn't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot near couldn't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot near one. couldn't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot near one. meanin't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot near one. mean ,i't some tourists. yeah, but lib demsgot near one. mean , you have got near one. i mean, you are wokeism at are bombarded by wokeism at work, at by the media, work, at school, by the media, evenin work, at school, by the media, even in your gym. so you might as even in your gym. so you might ee wett— even in your gym. so you might ee weit go— even in your gym. so you might as well go back— even in your gym. so you might as well go back home- even in your gym. so you might as well go back home to- 2 2 th so you might as well go back home to somebody wro— as well go back home to somebody wro ewree— as well go back home to somebody wro ewree wow— as well go back home to somebody who shares your values. and wotrer— who shares your values. and wotrer-ie- who shares your values. and another-is the- who shares your values. and l another-is the great another important is the great retieoewent— another important is the great replacement theory , which is, by replacement theory, which is, by the replacement theory, which is, by tte-e— replacement theory, which is, by tte-e renor— replacement theory, which is, by the a french theorised by the way, a french theorised by a newer— the way, a french theorised by a french thinker.— the way, a french theorised by a french thinker. a— the way, a french theorised by a french thinker. a lot of women wro— french thinker. a lot of women wro ere— french thinker. a lot of women who are on this— french thinker. a lot of women who are on this website , unlike, who are on this website, unlike, you— who are on this website, unlike, woe tnow,— who are on this website, unlike, wow tnow, tre— who are on this website, unlike, you know, the feminist trend, went— you know, the feminist trend, went to— you know, the feminist trend, went to tewe— you know, the feminist trend, want to have kids, want to raise a want to have kids, want to raise etewiiw— want to have kids, want to raise e tewiiw . — want to have kids, want to raise e tewiiw . ant— want to have kids, want to raise a family. and it— want to have kids, want to raise a family. and it is,- want to have kids, want to raise afamily. 22 c a family. and it is, you know, i think you're right that if you you want someone who has similarities, where good similarities, that's where good relations like the relations reform. i do like the bit 58% french bit that said 58% of french would sleep with a far right would not sleep with a far right sympathiser which i imagine that

50 comes from the women and the 8% are the few blokes who are going of going to be picky. the rest of them, not going to put any, them, it's not going to put any, you what the american you know, what is the american equivalent passport. gross americans who get their teeetorte— americans who get their passports abroad to americans who get their- passports-abroad to find passports and go abroad to find women from overseas who want to reiee— women from overseas who want to reieeltewiiw. — women from overseas who want to raise lfamily. okay— women from overseas who want to raise lfamily. okay .— women from overseas who want to raise family. owe terrill raise a family. okay. well, we're going to move on now to sunday's if sunday's telegraph. and if you've the you've ever wondered what the secret is, secret to losing weight is, turns have do turns out you just have to do the of the the opposite of what the government this is my government says. this is my favourite story. the healthy favourite story. the nhs healthy weigrt— favourite story. the nhs healthy weight calculator— favourite story. the nhs healthy weight calculator got— 2 tinctitg the nhs healthy weight calculator got the calculation _ weight calculator got the- calculation—made calculation wrong and it made reorie— calculation wrong and it made teotte tetter. — calculation wrong and it made people fatter. it— calculation wrong and it made people fatter. it looked at your titr— people fatter. it looked at your tiwiltoit— people fatter. it looked at your tiiiltoit woe— people fatter. it looked at your bmi, told you how bmi, it told you how many oeioriee— bmi, it told you how many calories-could- bmi, it told you how manyi calories-could-and bmi, it told you how many. calories-could-and it calories you could have and it got— calories you could have and it got it— calories you could have and it got it eo— calories you could have and it got it eo wong — calories you could have and it got it so wrong. 2 got it so wrong. but they had one here basically, which one job here basically, which was help to weight, was to help you to lose weight, not you to become not to tell you to become massive this is so massive heifers. but this is so good. i wish i'd have used good. iwish i'd have used this weteite—tre- good. i wish i'd have used this website _the extra| website because then the extra weigrt—ooeitl weight i've gained, you could tiewe— weight i've gained, you could tiewe-i-t— weight i've gained, you could blame-i'd-of. weight i've gained, you could- blame-i'd-of course weight i've gained, you could- bwould. .i'd-of course weight i've gained, you could bwould. whereas of course weight i've gained, you could bwould. whereas it's of course weight i've gained, you could bwould. whereas it's justvf course weight i've gained, you could bwould. whereas it's just my urse i would. whereas it's just my own—ww- i would. whereas it's just my. own—ww teetinge own fault for eating my feelings . conti— own fault for eating my feelings . could there— own fault for eating my feelings . could there-be- own fault for eating my feelings . could there not be lawsuits coming if only hadn't coming up? if. if only i hadn't wentionet— coming up? if. if only i hadn't mentioned-didn't- coming up? if. if only i hadn't mentioned-didn't use. ti.tit22 2g c. it7 �*" if only i hadn't mentioned didn't use this mentioned that i didn't use this weteite— website. darn it. it but yeah, i ween-onw— website. darn it. it but yeah, i ween-oniwlit- website. darn it. it but yeah, i mean, only it perfect mean, not only is it a perfect excuse, you shouldn't a excuse, you shouldn't use a etwit— excuse, you shouldn't use a stupid online— excuse, you shouldn't use a stupid online calculator with titt— stupid online calculator with in. .— stupid online calculator with tiwi , writt— stupid online calculator with bmi , which is- stupid online calculator with bmi , which is a— stupid online calculator with bmi , which is a ridiculous bmi, which is a ridiculous wing.— bmi, which is a ridiculous tring. ite— bmi, which is a ridiculous thing. it's your- bmi, which is a ridiculous

thing. it's your mass divided by wow— thing. it's your mass divided by wow-ewewe.— thing. it's your mass divided by wow-ewewe. it- thing. it's your mass divided by your squared. it judges your height squared. it judges your height squared. it judges woe ee— your height squared. it judges woe w e— your height squared. it judges you as a as a geometric area . you as a as a geometric area. iet— you as a as a geometric area. eat a— you as a as a geometric area. tet e tit— you as a as a geometric area. tet e tit teee. — you as a as a geometric area. eat a bit less. right?- you as a as a geometric area. c right? everyone eat a bit less. right? everyone tnowe— eat a bit less. right? everyone tnowe woe— eat a bit less. right? everyone tnowe woe we— eat a bit less. right? everyone knows you use a— c right? everyone knows you use a mirror. the tretitionei— knows you use a mirror. the traditional approach . you knows you use a mirror. c2nin2 2 you don't traditional approach. you don't need an app. traditional approach. you don't neet en wt. toe— traditional approach. you don't need an app. you just- c2nin2 2 you don't need an app. you just need a reflective— need an app. you just need a reflective surface— need an app. you just need a reflective surface and that new— reflective surface and that trettw wwr— reflective surface and that pretty much solves it. okay, wett— pretty much solves it. okay, weit toot,— pretty much solves it. okay, well, look, that's- pretty much solves it. okay, well, look, that's all for part neg,— well, look, that's all for part time, tet— well, look, that's all for part three, but in— well, look, that's all for part three, but in final section three, but in the filial section three, but in the final section were going— three, but in the final section were going-te- three, but in the final section , we're going be covering , we're going to be covering iiegio— , we're going to be covering iiegio-iiegio- , we're going to be covering magic magic mushrooms magic mike. magic mushrooms and mundane, murderous marine mammals. lots— mundane, murderous marine mammals. lots alliteration mammals. lots of alliteration ttere.— mammals. lots of alliteration ttere. ton-t— mammals. lots of alliteration ttere. wont go— mammals. lots of alliteration there. don't go anywhere .

welcome back to the final part welcome back to the filial part of welcome back to the final part of headliners.— welcome back to the final part of headliners. it's— welcome back to the final part of headliners. it's your first toot— of headliners. it's your first toot et— of headliners. it's your first look at sunday's- of headliners. it's your first look at sunday's newspapers . look at sunday's newspapers. were— look at sunday's newspapers. were going— look at sunday's newspapers. were going to— look at sunday's newspapers. we're going to jump back etreigrt— we're going to jump back etreigrt in— we're going to jump back straight in with the sunday iiwee. — straight in with the sunday iiwee. _teeni straight in with the sunday- times._been some times. now, there've been some werw—wewterei very handsy audience members wetoring— very handsy audience members watching-mike. - very handsy audience members watching mike. did they watching magic mike. did they let watching magic mike. did they iet woe— watching magic mike. did they iet wow teet— watching magic mike. did they let you keep that thong ? c let you keep that thong? it was wortr— let you keep that thong? it was wortr ewerw— let you keep that thong? it was wortr ewerw nennw— let you keep that thong? it was worth every penny. magic mike audiences taking it audiences in london taking it too far, cast members . too far, say cast members. interesting word. the dancers have been subjected to scratching, biting , licking two

scratching, biting, licking two women a week or something. they're being escorted out of the venue. just to be clear, trie— the venue. just to be clear, trie ie— the venue. just to be clear, trie ie e— the venue. just to be clear, this is a-about- the venue. just to be clear, this is a-about male. this is a show about male etrittere— this is a show about male strippers,-this- this is a show about male strippers, this is just strippers, right? this is just in strippers, right? this is just iii—up- strippers, right? this is just iii—up gig- i strippers, right? this is just. in—wt gig. twt in my last stand up gig. but ereo.— in my last stand up gig. but eieo. wee.— in my last stand up gig. but eieo. yesr-an_ in my last stand up gig. but also, yes, an interactive also, yes, it's an interactive show about male strippers. so you're lick them? no. you're allowed to lick them? no. well, probably need you're allowed to lick them? no. wtdefine probably need you're allowed to lick them? no. wtdefine the probably need you're allowed to lick them? no. wtdefine the level)robably need you're allowed to lick them? no. wtdefine the level ofbably need to define the level of interactivity. yes. licking is frowned okay. it's very frowned upon. okay. it's very interactive, i suppose, isn't it? it's not meant to be it? very. it's not meant to be hands and it's because hands on. and it's because female is just not female sexuality is just not feared in same if this feared in the same way. if this story were , a live story were, there's a live interactive of showgirls interactive version of showgirls and some blokes a lick. and some blokes having a lick. oh this would different oh, oh this would be a different oh, it a very different it would be a very different story, it story, wouldn't it? but is it just story, wouldn't it? but is it ieet tite— story, wouldn't it? but is it just like female— 22 c 7 but is it just like female sexuality out of just like female sexuality out ot—are- just like female sexuality out| ot—are ttew of control, nicholas? are they ieet— of control, nicholas? are they ttet—reel of control, nicholas? are they. ttet—nee teen just rampant? society has been more women who more permissive with women who step out of the line. i think it's time we also it's about time we also had a symbol that rainbow flag for symbol on that rainbow flag for the male strippers and the plight of male strippers and mortgage holders. but there's not much. i mean, steve's got a point.— not much. i mean, steve's got a point. ttere-e— not much. i mean, steve's got a point. there's not— not much. i mean, steve's got a point. there's not much- ti2 i mean, steve's got a point. there's not much threat. if i point. there's not much threat. it i were— point. there's not much threat. it i e— point. there's not much threat. if i were a male— point. there's not much threat. if i were a male stripper and eowe—wwl if i were a male stripper and. eow—ww oeit, i some woman nibbled my calf, i woeiw-t—tw- wouldn't feel threatened by ttet.— wouldn't feel threatened by ttet-i— wouldn't feel threatened by ttet-i-i- wouldn't feel threatened by that.-i-i have. wouldn't feel threatened by- that.-i-i have never that. yeah, i mean, i have never ret— that. yeah, i mean, i have never ret tre— that. yeah, i mean, i have never had the fortune— that. yeah, i mean, i have never had the fortune or— that. yeah, i mean, i have never had the fortune or the privilege of had the fortune or the privilege ot i— had the fortune or the privilege ot i tewe— had the fortune or the privilege of i have that— had the fortune or the privilege of i have that desirable. c of i have that desirable. it's

not— of i have that desirable. it's not e— of i have that desirable. it's not a problem.— of i have that desirable. it's not a problem. so- of i have that desirable. it's not a problem. so you- of i have that desirable. it's not a problem. so you must tell them , because i can't comment on them, because i can't comment on that. you're as buff as me, that. when you're as buff as me, this kind of thing this is the kind of thing i moonlight this of moonlight and i do this kind of thing. so do one lighting in ttet— thing. so do one lighting in tretlton-t— thing. so do one lighting in thatidon't-to-isl that i don't want to know is ttet— that i don't want to know is that-mooning. - that i don't want to know is that mooning. vtit that it's mooning. no, no, no. twing— that it's mooning. no, no, no. having a second job. that's what that it's mooning. no, no, no. hrmeans. second job. that's what that it's mooning. no, no, no. hrmeans. okay.i job. that's what that it's mooning. no, no, no. hrmeans. okay. goodness's what that it's mooning. no, no, no. hrmeans. okay. goodness sake at that it's mooning. no, no, no. hrmeans. okay. goodness sake .t it means. okay. goodness sake. anyway, to another anyway, move on. now to another story from magic mike. two magic mushrooms. himars. what's the link? both taste link? well, they're both taste great. nicholas. yeah. no eperiene— great. nicholas. yeah. no experience there- giiua nicholas. yeah. no experience there either. family guy— experience there either. family guy -— experience there either. family gww . tet— experience there either. family gww . twt wew— experience there either. family gww . twt weer .— experience there either. family guy . but yeah , the experience there either. family guy. but yeah , the times experience there either. family guy . but yeah , the times says guy. but yeah, the times says iiegio— guy. but yeah, the times says magic mushroom _ guy. but yeah, the times says magic mushroom dinner party roete— magic mushroom dinner party hosts risked— magic mushroom dinner party hosts risked lengthy prison sentences. so _ hosts risked lengthy prison sentences. so there's this judge,— sentences. so there's this judger i— sentences. so there's this judgew i trint— sentences. so there's this judge, i think in scotland , judge, i think in scotland, sewwtre— judge, i think in scotland, samantha fryston, who is on a weed— samantha fryston, who is on a weeet to— samantha fryston, who is on a crusade to raise— samantha fryston, who is on a crusade to raise awareness, but in e— crusade to raise awareness, but in e goot— crusade to raise awareness, but in e goot wew— crusade to raise awareness, but in a good way because this is not— in a good way because this is not e— in a good way because this is not e wote— in a good way because this is not a woke contest . right. but not a woke contest. right. but epperentiw— not a woke contest. right. but epperentiw trie— not a woke contest. right. but apparently this is— not a woke contest. right. but apparently this is something ttet— apparently this is something ttet ree— apparently this is something that has become very trendy down eoetr— that has become very trendy down eoetr in— that has become very trendy down south in london,— that has become very trendy down south in london, among middle ewwe— south in london, among middle oieee wegio— south in london, among middle class magic mushroom dinner pertiee. — class magic mushroom dinner pertiee. vee— class magic mushroom dinner parties. yes. and- parties. v/tzi;~ir and experimentations. and parties. yes. and— experimentations. and people epperentiw— experimentations. and people epperentiw ere— experimentations. and people apparently are not aware that trie— apparently are not aware that triele— apparently are not aware that triele oieee— apparently are not aware that this-a class a— apparently are not aware that this a class a drug, no less, this is a class a drug, no less, in tre— this is a class a drug, no less, in tte eewe— this is a class a drug, no less, in the same rank—

this is a class a drug, no less, in the same rank as cocaine and twin.— in the same rank as cocaine and twin ant— in the same rank as cocaine and twin ant eo— in the same rank as cocaine and heroin. and so they— in the same rank as cocaine and heroin. and so they risk getting rettw— heroin. and so they risk getting rettw tinee— heroin. and so they risk getting hefty fines and _ heroin. and so they risk getting hefty fines and prison sentences and hefty fines and prison sentences wt eit— hefty fines and prison sentences wt eit treee— hefty fines and prison sentences and all these heroin picnics. ttew-re— and all these heroin picnics. irewre not— and all these heroin picnics. they're not allowed- and all these heroin picnics. they're not allowed either. are they? similar kind of thing, i imagine not. yeah, yeah, yeah. twing— imagine not. yeah, yeah, yeah. rewing-reroin- imagine not. yeah, yeah, yeah. having-heroin with- 2233 yeah, yeah, yeah. having heroin with your having a bit of heroin with your twent— having a bit of heroin with your ieneto-wee — having a bit of heroin with your lunch?-also. yeah,- lunch? yes and also. yeah, i tiw-t— lunch? yes and also. yeah, i didn't realise— lunch? yes and also. yeah, i didn't realise the- lunch? yes and also. yeah, i didn't realise the cocaine tring. — didn't realise the cocaine tring. _t— didn't realise the cocaine tting-it-tol didn't realise the cocaine. thing.-if-do have thing. i think if you do have winner— thing. i think if you do have dinner—cocaine,| dinner parties with cocaine, some serious things can happen. tite— some serious things can happen. rite—ep- some serious things can happen. rite—up teoowingi like you could end up becoming the education— like you could end up becoming the education minister. but i'm not.— the education minister. but i'm not. i— the education minister. but i'm not. i wont— the education minister. but i'm not. i don't know— the education minister. but i'm not. i don't know what you're eewing. — not. i don't know what you're eewing. twe— not. i don't know what you're eewing. we not— not. i don't know what you're saying. i've not named which one tewee— saying. i've not named which one tewee ttere— saying. i've not named which one because there have— saying. i've not named which one because there have been so many in—tweotiw. - in the last us. exactly. tweettw— in the last us. exactly. exactly. that— in the last us. exactly. exactly. that-youl in the last us. exactly. exactly. that you with the exactly. that saves you with the light. is, magic light. now, the thing is, magic mushrooms a, to be mushrooms are a class a, to be fair, i didn't know that. i've never and i'm not never done them and i'm not interested doing but interested in doing them, but i didn't a didn't know that they were a class they're class a drug because they're a fungus. it's just like fungus. i assume it's just like having or something having a cucumber or something like . a shiitake shiitake. like that. a shiitake shiitake. exactly shiitake kind of mushroom. yeah. the cucumbers are mushroom. yeah. the cucumbers not— mushroom. yeah. the cucumbers not e— mushroom. yeah. the cucumbers not e twgw— mushroom. yeah. the cucumbers are not a fungus as— yeah. the cucumbers are not a fungus as well, but ite— are not a fungus as well, but it'slvegetable._ are not a fungus as well, but it'slvegetableiso- are not a fungus as well, but it's vegetable. it's a vegetable. so my point was that i felt it was as innocuous. yeah, was that i felt it was as innocuous . yeah, but it's got innocuous. yeah, but it's got all innocuous. yeah, but it's got eti-twge— innocuous. yeah, but it's got eitltwgelit- innocuous. yeah, but it's got all-drugslit, isn't- innocuous. yeah, but it's got all-drugslit, isn't it?l 22 yeah, but it's got all this,irugs it, isn't it? 22 yeah, but it's got all this, all s it, isn't it? 22 yeah, but it's got all this, all the it, isn't it? 22 yeah, but it's got all this, all the psychedelic all this, all the psychedelic twge— all this, all the psychedelic twgelwrior— all this, all the psychedelic drugsthich - it's. drugs, which i love. it's netwrei— drugs, which i love. it's natural. opium's- drugs, which i love. c opium's natural.

natural. opium's natural. i owt— natural. opium's natural. i ow-t tewe— natural. opium's natural. i can't have that— opium's natural. i can't have that with your dinner party — can't have that with your dinner pertw. or,— can't have that with your dinner pertw. or, weer.— can't have that with your dinner party. oh, yeah. i'm making a teteneiwe— party. oh, yeah. i'm making a defensive error— party. oh, yeah. i'm making a defensive error with that. because. because- defensive error with that. because. because it's- defensive error with that. because. because it's natural. you're trying too hard. i am trying to you're trying too hard. i am trwing to twetitw— you're trying too hard. i am trying to justify this- you're trying too hard. i am trying to justify this to- trying to justify this to wowreeit. — trying to justify this to yourself. (de/gear trying to justify this to yourself. ocean yourself. okay, well, look, we're to move now we're going to move on now to this in star . this story in the daily star. and this is mysticism , and this is about mysticism, glastos, mystical vibes comes from ancient ley lines , says top from ancient ley lines, says top boffin. let's look at top rottin— boffin. let's look at top boffin. really?- boffin. let's look at top boffin. really? a- 2 let's look at top boffin. really? a top boffin , boffin. really? a top boffin, wot— boffin. really? a top boffin, not crackpots. _ boffin. really? a top boffin, not crackpots. wait a minute. weit. — not crackpots. wait a minute. weit. so— not crackpots. wait a minute. wait. so doesn't— not crackpots. wait a minute. wait. so doesn't the- not crackpots. wait a minute. wait. so doesn't the vibe- not crackpots. wait a minute. wait. so doesn't the vibe just come from the music or the i think there's probably some mushrooms there. mainly zahawi, but mushrooms there. mainly zahawi, tut wewte— mushrooms there. mainly zahawi, but maybe .other_ mushrooms there. mainly zahawi, but maybe .other ones- mushrooms there. mainly zahawi, but maybe-other ones .- mainly zahawi, but maybe other ones . no, but maybe the other ones. no, ttere-e— but maybe the other ones. no, ttere-e e— but maybe the other ones. no, ttere-e e tew— but maybe the other ones. no, there's a ley line.— but maybe the other ones. no, there's a ley line. it's an woient— there's a ley line. it's an ancient-it's- there's a ley line. it's an. ancient-it'slpath there's a ley line. it's an- ancient-it'slpath of ancient ley line. it's a path of rigt— ancient ley line. it's a path of rigr wwetioei— ancient ley line. it's a path of high mystical energy, which wetee— high mystical energy, which wetee ep— high mystical energy, which wetee up e— high mystical energy, which makes up a larger spiritual networt— makes up a larger spiritual network that— makes up a larger spiritual network that can be found across the network that can be found across tte worit. — network that can be found across tte worit. ie— network that can be found across the world. is there— network that can be found across the world. is there energy, troegri— the world. is there energy, though? because there's a very etriot— though? because there's a very strict definition— though? because there's a very strict definition of— though? because there's a very strict definition of the word energw. — strict definition of the word energw. -wing- strict definition of the word energy. using our science energy. stop using our science worte—woo- energy. stop using our science worewoot— woo| words to make your woo woo sound wore-twprweiwe.— words to make your woo woo sound more-impressive. top- more more impressive. top iroteeeor— more more impressive. top professor has— more more impressive. top professor has claimed all this. trie— professor has claimed all this. irie ie— professor has claimed all this. irie ie e— professor has claimed all this. this is a professor— professor has claimed all this. this is a professor of archaeology- this is a professor of archaeology , so thanks for archaeology, so thanks for tripping— archaeology, so thanks for otipping in— archaeology, so thanks for chipping in on_ archaeology, so thanks for chipping in on the science , chipping in on the science, eewing— chipping in on the science, eewing ttet— chipping in on the science, saying that that's where the tite— saying that that's where the wite owee— saying that that's where the vibe comes meanwhile the vibe comes from. meanwhile the otter— vibe comes from. meanwhile the other—glastonbury. vibe comes from. meanwhile the other glastonbury is other story about glastonbury is ttet— that the arctic monkeys were toring— that the arctic monkeys were toring-tiw-t—

that the arctic monkeys were boring didn't any boring and didn't have any energw— boring and didn't have any energw. — boring and didn't have any energw. wett— boring and didn't have any energy . c boring and didn't have any- energy . well,.what is it you energy. well, so what is it you fear ? or other? nicholas fear? one or the other? nicholas this nonsense, is it? this is just nonsense, is it? you don't need an expert in science us. just as if science to tell us. just as if we—enoegr- science to tell us. just as if. we_enough hippies we didn't have enough hippies at wiwtontww. — glastonbury. i think any excuse is glastonbury. i think any excuse ie-trew— glastonbury. i think any excuse ie-trew-trel is good for them to raise the tiotet— is good for them to raise the ticket prices,— is good for them to raise the ticket prices, which don't wett— ticket prices, which don't etteot we— ticket prices, which don't affect me, but- ticket prices, which don't affect me, but the lines can affect me, but the ley lines can be affect me, but the ley lines can te—wet- affect me, but the ley lines can te—wet to- affect me, but the ley lines can be _ used to live i affect me, but the ley lines can be_used to live in| be powerful. i used to live in east which east grinstead, which is apparently crossing apparently there's a crossing ley lines, is why the ley lines, which is why the scientologists live there and all strange all the sort of strange religious you religious sects. and you definitely sensed a weird weirdness because weirdness about the town because of the ley lines or the scientologists . i a of scientologists. i think a bit of both. yeah. there are lots of people around sort people walking around with sort of or, you of dead behind the eyes or, you know, let's move on to know, anyway, let's move on to another i've seen arctic another one. i've seen arctic monkeys. got this one on monkeys. we've got this one on the and this is the mail on sunday and this is some some behaviour some more some bad behaviour from animals. steve from antisocial animals. steve yeah , they're looking to find yeah, they're looking to find the cumbrian peacock poisoner, which sounds like a channel five quiz. the apparently they eeeter— quiz. the apparently they scratch cars,— t2 the apparently they scratch cars, they keep locals wete— scratch cars, they keep locals ewete witt— scratch cars, they keep locals awake with their— scratch cars, they keep locals awake with their raucous nookie. it awake with their raucous nookie. it eewe— awake with their raucous nookie. it eewe rere— awake with their raucous nookie. it says here, really— awake with their raucous nookie. it says here, really don't we etio— it says here, really don't we we tet— it says here, really don't we all? but one— it says here, really don't we all? but one resident said teeooot— all? but one resident said teeooot .— all? but one resident said peacock , we— all? but one resident said peacock , we call it which just peacock, we call it which just gewe— peacock, we call it which just gewe we— peacock, we call it which just gewe we e— peacock, we call it which just gave me a mental image of a tin

of gave me a mental image of a tin ot pew. — gave me a mental image of a tin ot pew. ant— gave me a mental image of a tin ot pew. ant i— gave me a mental image of a tin of peas. and i won't— gave me a mental image of a tin of peas. and i won't go into the wet— of peas. and i won't go into the reet ot— of peas. and i won't go into the reet ot it.— of peas. and i won't go into the reet ot it. tet— of peas. and i won't go into the rest of it. but now— of peas. and i won't go into the rest of it. but now three have teen— rest of it. but now three have teen tittet— rest of it. but now three have been killed,.of- rest of it. but now three have been killed, of them by been killed, two of them by teing— been killed, two of them by teing-e— been killed, two of them by teint-e w- been killed, two of them by being a car. solve that being hit by a car. solve that wweterw— being hit by a car. solve that wweterw-one— being hit by a car. solve that mystery one been mystery and one has been poieonet. — mystery and one has been poieonet. _wei mystery and one has been- poisoned. _we see poisoned. now i see. we see peacocks. they're very beautiful creatures. that creatures. and we think that they're charming . they're very sort of charming. the males are the males are particularly peahens particularly the peahens are boring, yeah but, boring, aren't they? yeah but, you on the island of sark you know, on the island of sark , have peacock. , they used to have peacock. i've to sark quite a lot. i've been to sark quite a lot. they used have peacocks they used to have peacocks there. they made so much noise that the locals ate them that one of the locals ate them and now they're there and now they're not there anymore, which struck me as quite an extreme response. but maybe that noisy and maybe they are that noisy and that irritating. nicholas, what do about peacocks? i do you think about peacocks? i don't mean, north don't know. i mean, north iontow— don't know. i mean, north union, we— don't know. i mean, north london, we have foxes , so if london, we have foxes, so if ttew-re— london, we have foxes, so if ttew-re-ee- london, we have foxes, so if they're - as the - london, we have foxes, so if they're as the foxes, they're as noisy as the foxes, i-w — they're as noisy as the foxes, in not— they're as noisy as the foxes, in not going— they're as noisy as the foxes, i'm not going to— they're as noisy as the foxes, i'm not going to eat a fox. they're as noisy as the foxes, i'm not going to eat a fox vtit i'm not going to eat a fox. no, i'm not going to eat a fox. no, i-tre— i'm not going to eat a fox. no, i-tre peeeoete- i'm not going to eat a fox. no, i-the peacocks are- i believe the peacocks are actually more but actually even more noisy. but this saying this article is saying that they're even they actually they're not even they actually they're not even they actually the vandals , they don't the vandals, they don't just screech everything else . screech and everything else. they jump on your they actually jump on your car and car. but and they jump on the car. but they look good, don't they do look good, don't they? to they do look good, don't they? io-trewre— they do look good, don't they? to _they're more- they do look good, don't they? to _they're more a - to be fair, they're more a decoration, _ to be fair, they're more a decoration, they? yeah decoration, aren't they? yeah tet— decoration, aren't they? yeah tut it— decoration, aren't they? yeah tut it ttew— decoration, aren't they? yeah but if they could— decoration, aren't they? yeah but if they could be quiet, if ttew— but if they could be quiet, if ttew-treet— but if they could be quiet, if they-breed them- but if they could be quiet, if they breed them make they could breed them to make ttew — they could breed them to make ttew _woti them quiet peacocks, then you wigrt— them quiet peacocks, then you might something.

might be on to something. but someone's-poisoning- might be on to something. but someone's poisoning them. someone's been poisoning them. right is a murder someone's been poisoning them. riione's is a murder someone's been poisoning them. riione's been is a murder someone's been poisoning them. riione's been poisonediurder someone's been poisoning them. riione's been poisoned one.r someone's been poisoning them. riione's been poisoned one. just of one's been poisoned one. just one. why headline one. well, why is the headline who cumbrian peacock who is the cumbrian peacock poisoner hit by a poisoner to have been hit by a car? bad would car? who's the bad driver? would be car? who's the bad driver? would te-reetiine— car? who's the bad driver? would te-reetiine. — car? who's the bad driver? would be-headline . i-thel be a better headline. i like the wee— be a better headline. i like the iteeltre— be a better headline. i like the idea the cumbrian peacock idea of the cumbrian peacock poison. a really poison. it sounds like a really bad five film. do you bad channel five film. do you miss a peacock in car? miss a peacock in a car? they're huge. they found the teit—wwete- they're huge. they found the. tail._manage.not tail. how do you manage to not eee—wet.- tail. how do you manage to not eee—wet. wotl tail. how do you manage to not. eee—wet. woe to see that on there? well, you do it that means it's it if it's that means it's deliberate. if you're deliberate. clearly, if you're hitting a car, it hitting a peacock in a car, it means you're deliberate. yeah, but might been but the tail might have been otoeet— but the tail might have been closed because.— but the tail might have been closed because. if they closed because. depends if they were—ww- closed because. depends if they were—ww wetee were trying to attract any mates or—weer. - or not. right. well, yeah. trite— or not. right. well, yeah. . drive—car. well, drive an attractive car. well, that's we've drive an attractive car. well, that's-we've-time- drive an attractive car. well, that's .we've .time for. | that's all we've got time for. twer— that's all we've got time for. titer—trei much as i was enjoying the peeooot— much as i was enjoying the peeooot-ie- much as i was enjoying thei peacock-is almost much as i was enjoying the- peacock-is almost over peacock chat show is almost over .—wotrer— peacock chat show is almost over .-another-look. . let's have another quick look at . let's have another quick look et—petee - at sunday's front pages. we've got—eewew- at sunday's front pages. we'vei got—sunday running at sunday's front pages. we've got did sunday running at sunday's front pages. we've got did putin sunday running at sunday's front pages. we've got did putin bribeiay running at sunday's front pages. we've got did putin bribe coup nning with. did putin bribe coup teeter— with. did putin bribe coup teeter to— with. did putin bribe coup leader to quit— with. did putin bribe coup leader to quit russia? the swtew— leader to quit russia? the sunday telegraph has wagner wttrweere— sunday telegraph has wagner mutineers-back- sunday telegraph has wagner mutineers back after mutineers turn back after etriting— mutineers turn back after striking deal— mutineers turn back after striking deal with putin. txtttss— striking deal with putin. express they're going with the tweete— express they're going with the iweeie etorw— express they're going with the iweeie etorw w— express they're going with the russia story as well. russia on tre— russia story as well. russia on tte trint— russia story as well. russia on tte trint .— russia story as well. russia on the brink . the— russia story as well. russia on the brink . the sunday mirror. the brink. the sunday mirror. ree— the brink. the sunday mirror. ree retin— the brink. the sunday mirror. has putin pushed to the brink. ant— has putin pushed to the brink. ant tre— has putin pushed to the brink. and the sunday— has putin pushed to the brink. and the sunday times. putin rewitietet— and the sunday times. putin humiliated by- and the sunday times. putin humiliated by mutiny. the daily ster— humiliated by mutiny. the daily ster eteo— humiliated by mutiny. the daily star also running— humiliated by mutiny. the daily star also running with the tweete— star also running with the iweeie etorw— star also running with the russia story with putin, the

town— russia story with putin, the bootin, they've— russia story with putin, the bootin, they've taken the pun ttere. — bootin, they've taken the pun ttere. woee— bootin, they've taken the pun there. those were— bootin, they've taken the pun there. those were the front pages— there. those were the front pegee ttet— there. those were the front pegee ttet ie— there. those were the front pages that is all we've got time for. pages that is all we've got time tor. irwte— pages that is all we've got time for. thanks to _ pages that is all we've got time for. thanks to my— pages that is all we've got time for. thanks to my guests . we're for. thanks to my guests. we're teet— for. thanks to my guests. we're back tomorrow— for. thanks to my guests. we're back tomorrow at— for. thanks to my guests. we're back tomorrow at 11:00 leo back tomorrow at 11:00 with leo wt— back tomorrow at 11:00 with leo ent twi— back tomorrow at 11:00 with leo ent twt wt— back tomorrow at 11:00 with leo and paul and victor daniels. and if and paul and victor daniels. and it wore— and paul and victor daniels. and if you're watching— and paul and victor daniels. and if you're watching the 5 am. repeet— if you're watching the 5 am. repeet-twet- if you're watching the 5 am. repeat,-tuned for- if you're watching the 5 am. repeat, tuned for breakfast repeat, stay tuned for breakfast

along to neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio . coming up news tv and on radio. coming up on the show this evening, we'll be joined by liam halligan to talk about the real damage the covid pandemic lockdown had on the economy and what we might expect in the days, months and years ahead. we'll also be to talking michael kill, the ceo of the night time industries association , who will tell us association, who will tell us about how the hospitality

industry is still struggling . no industry is still struggling. no surprises there . and we'll also surprises there. and we'll also be hearing about some rare and very beautiful maps detailing the defeat of the spanish armada, which are set to go on pubuc armada, which are set to go on public display for the very first time. all of that, plus plenty of chat with my brilliant and lovely panellists, tanya buxton . but first, an update on buxton. but first, an update on the latest news from rory smith .thank the latest news from rory smith . thank you very much, neal. russian paramilitary group wagner is continuing advances towards moscow. the group's teeter,— towards moscow. the group's leader, yevgeny_ 2 2 the group's leader, yevgeny prigozhin, wweet— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, accused iss— leader, yevgeny prigozhin, accused iss russia's military ewete— accused iss russia's military otiete ot— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying to— accused iss russia's military chiefs of lying to justify the in— chiefs of lying to justify the war in ukraine.— chiefs of lying to justify the war in ukraine. he claims iweeiw— war in ukraine. he claims russian helicopters have already openet— russian helicopters have already openet tire— russian helicopters have already openet tire on— russian helicopters have already opened fire on them as they make treir— opened fire on them as they make treir wew— opened fire on them as they make their way towards— opened fire on them as they make their way towards the capital. moscow's mayor— their way towards the capital. moscow's mayor says a counter—terrorism regime has teen— counter—terrorism regime has teen teeteret— counter—terrorism regime has been declared in— counter—terrorism regime has been declared in the city. atwittint— been declared in the city. admitting the _ been declared in the city. admitting the situation there is tittiwtt— admitting the situation there is tittiwtt .— admitting the situation there is difficult , the - admitting the situation there is

difficult , the uk— admitting the situation there is difficult , the uk government has difficult, the uk government has reitet— difficult, the uk government has new w—