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there really is only one. plus there really is only one. and— plus there really is only one. and widdecombe_ plus there really is only one. and widdecombe it- plus there really is only one. and widdecombe it was- plus there really is only one. and widdecombe it was chance because mr right didn't happen to come along. it was choice because— to come along. it was choice because it— to come along. it was choice because it was— to come along. it was choice because it was never- f g it was choice because it was never a big enough— because it was never a big enough priority— because it was never a big enough priority to go out looking— enough priority to go out looking fer— enough priority to go out looking for him and conservative mp sheneeh— looking for him and conservative mp shailesh vara._ looking for him and conservative mp shailesh vara. _ looking for him and conservative mp shailesh vara. ow; looking for him and conservative mp shailesh vara. on; 35. mp shailesh vara. one day, somebody— mp shailesh vara. one day, somebody who is not white is going to make it as a conservative mp. so why shouldn't it be me .7 all that shouldn't it be me.7 all that after your shouldn't it be me? all that after your news— 2 " c c “c7 all that after your news headlines . 2 i“ c c “vi;7 all that after your news headlines . vi;”«v after your news headlines. very good— after your news headlines. very good evening-— after your news headlines. very good evening. it's— after your news headlines. very good evening. it's a— after your news headlines. very good evening. it's a minute past six here in the gb newsroom . i'm six here in the gb newsroom. i'm the united states says yesterday's armed rebellion in russia was a direct challenge to vladimir putin's authority and reveals cracks appearing in his military strategy. the mutiny by the wagner mercenary group was called off last night, and it's understood its leader, yevgeny prigozhin , will be exiled to prigozhin, will be exiled to belarus . his prigozhin, will be exiled to belarus. his fighters were en route to moscow to remove russian commanders. prigozhin blames for mishandling the war. anthony blinken, the us
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secretary of state, says the turmoil caused could take months to play out, but is likely to affect moscow's capable cities in ukraine. to the extent this presents a distraction in a loss of focus for the russians, that may help the ukrainians on the battlefield. exactly may help the ukrainians on the battlefield . exactly where this battlefield. exactly where this gees— battlefield. exactly where this goes .— battlefield. exactly where this goes . we — battlefield. exactly where this gees . we den-v— battlefield. exactly where this goes , we don't know. - vi;2 exactly where this goes , we don't know. but what we goes, we don't know. but what we do knew— goes, we don't know. but what we we knew ve— goes, we don't know. but what we do know is that— goes, we don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen real eks— do know is that we've seen real ks eege— do know is that we've seen real ks eerge .— do know is that we've seen real cracks emerge . again, a direct cracks emerge. again, a direct errevvewge— cracks emerge. again, a direct errevvewge re— cracks emerge. again, a direct challenge to putin's authority . challenge to putin's authority. are— challenge to putin's authority. are wrvve— challenge to putin's authority. and while the— challenge to putin's authority. and while the immediate- challenge to putin's authority. and while the immediate risk to vladimir putin appears to have been contained, emergency security measures remain in place in moscow, as russian journal east lexi ver told gb news earlier, everything is has been resolved. it seems that the eeresrregrre— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has been— i“ 2 it seems that the catastrophe has been avoided. we swu— catastrophe has been avoided. we srvvv ee— catastrophe has been avoided. we srvvv we wake— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some extra law enforcement— still do have some extra law enforcement here on the streets are— enforcement here on the streets and week— enforcement here on the streets are week are— enforcement here on the streets and they are wearing some heavy gear.— and they are wearing some heavy gear. rer— and they are wearing some heavy gear. for example,— and they are wearing some heavy gear. for example, bullet—proof wesrs— gear. for example, bullet—proof wesrs erre— gear. for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets— gear. for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets . they have vests and helmets. they have meevrvwe— vests and helmets. they have meevrvwe guns.— vests and helmets. they have machine guns, which which is wwswev— machine guns, which which is wwswev . eur— machine guns, which which is unusual . but as— machine guns, which which is unusual . but as you can see unusual. but as you can see were.— unusual. but as you can see were. me— unusual. but as you can see here, life lviv_ unusual. but as you can see here, life lviv continues. the svrwervew— here, life lviv continues. the situation here _
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here, life lviv continues. the situation here in— here, life lviv continues. the situation here in downtown weseew— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't seem any any evrrerewr— moscow doesn't seem any any different from _ moscow doesn't seem any any different from the— moscow doesn't seem any any different from the usual. the kee— different from the usual. the red square— different from the usual. the red sgwere vs— different from the usual. the red square is still closed, but swer— red square is still closed, but ever wren— red square is still closed, but other than that,— red square is still closed, but other than that, everything seerrsvwer— other than that, everything seems fine . _ other than that, everything seems fine . f seems fine. the chancellor says raising interest rates is one of the most effective methods to kerb inflation this week. rates were hiked up to 5% from 4.5 the 13th rise in a row, and it was the sharpest increase since february. and the move means mortgage holders are preparing for a big jump in their monthly repayments . hundreds of mourners repayments. hundreds of mourners have gathered in london for a silent walking vigil marking the first anniversary of zara alina's death. the 35 year old law graduate was sexually assaulted and killed as she walked home from a night out on june the 26th. last year , the 29 june the 26th. last year, the 29 year old jordan mcsweeney is currently serving a life sentence , having been jailed for sentence, having been jailed for at least 38 years. friends and family of ms zara aleena joined the vigil at valentines park in ilford, farinaz. her aunt says we need to keep spreading the word. it we need to keep spreading the word . it could have been any one
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word. it could have been any one of word. it could have been any one or us— word. it could have been any one or veer— word. it could have been any one of us. your sister— word. it could have been any one of us. your sister ,_ word. it could have been any one of us. your sister , your- of us. your sister, your evergree— of us. your sister, your daughter, your niece. let's spread— daughter, your niece. let's speed we— daughter, your niece. let's spread the word. let's disrupt werewee— spread the word. let's disrupt violence against— spread the word. let's disrupt violence against women and girls . vers— violence against women and girls . ver-s regerrrer— violence against women and girls . let's together interrupt it. vers— . let's together interrupt it. let's together— . let's together interrupt it. let's together come affronted. vers— let's together come affronted. ver-s wer— let's together come affronted. let's not look— let's together come affronted. let's not look the— let's together come affronted. let's not look the other way and vers— let's not look the other way and res ger— let's not look the other way and res ger swer— let's not look the other way and let's get other people not to reek— let's get other people not to reek rrre — let's get other people not to look the other— let's get other people not to look the other way. all states seeeweew— look the other way. all states secondary schools in england are engppee— secondary schools in england are now equipped with— secondary schools in england are now equipped with a defibrillator. now equipped with a- defibrillator. the government says secondary schools received priority because of the risk of cardiac arrest, which increases with age. the department for health says the devices will also be rolled out in primary and special schools. that's due to be completed by the end of the summer term and in a few hours time it will be goodbye yellow brick road for good in this country at least sir elton john will close the glastonbury festival by headlining the pyramid stage . his final uk festival by headlining the pyramid stage. his final uk gig 53 years after his first sir, elton's promised a number of special guests and also to open
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with a song he hasn't played in the last ten years. people started claiming front row spots at the crack of dawn around 4 am. the performance doesn't start till nine, turned up three hours after these guys. i was here at 7 am. i was q2; i was here at 7 am. i was third in we— here at 7 am. i was third in we gwewe— here at 7 am. i was third in the queue. and— here at 7 am. i was third in the queue. and you can't miss error— the queue. and you can't miss error rewr— the queue. and you can't miss elton john last— the queue. and you can't miss elton john last ever uk gig wesrerew— elton john last ever uk gig wesrerew .— elton john last ever uk gig bastardry . what a day. bastardry. what a day. look, i knew— bastardry. what a day. look, i knew er— bastardry. what a day. look, i knew or kegs— bastardry. what a day. look, i kind of kept the tickets initially , but just for like initially, but just for like elton john. so i figured like this is such a once in a lifetime chance that i can sleep any other day. but like front row , glastonbury, last uk row, glastonbury, last uk concert, that's probably going to be like a once in a lifetime chance. lovely to be like a once in a lifetime chance . lovely weather for chance. lovely weather for evesrerwww— chance. lovely weather for evesrerwww .— chance. lovely weather for glastonbury . we- e“? “vivi; lovely weather for glastonbury . we do e“? “vi.v:i; lovely weather for glastonbury . we do hope you've glastonbury. we do hope you've been— glastonbury. we do hope you've been enjoying— glastonbury. we do hope you've been enjoying the— glastonbury. we do hope you've been enjoying the warm conditions,— been enjoying the warm conditions, but the met office is conditions, but the met office vs werwvwg— conditions, but the met office is warning people to enjoy the weer— is warning people to enjoy the heat responsibly.— is warning people to enjoy the heat responsibly. it is after we— heat responsibly. it is after the forecaster— heat responsibly. it is after the forecaster recorded the rever— the forecaster recorded the joint hottest _ the forecaster recorded the joint hottest temperature of the wear— joint hottest temperature of the wear wr— joint hottest temperature of the year in lincolnshire earlier wvrvr— year in lincolnshire earlier we m— year in lincolnshire earlier with 32.2 degrees in coningsby egwevw— with 32.2 degrees in coningsby equally wre— with 32.2 degrees in coningsby equally the figure in surrey in
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errerrsew— equally the figure in surrey in chertsey earlier— equally the figure in surrey in chertsey earlier this month, thunderstorms— chertsey earlier this month, thunderstorms and heavy showers, rrrewgvr.— thunderstorms and heavy showers, rwewgvr. ere— thunderstorms and heavy showers, though, are expected to hit nowhere— though, are expected to hit northern england, scotland and pews— northern england, scotland and waves er— northern england, scotland and parts of northern— northern england, scotland and parts of northern ireland later revs— parts of northern ireland later we ewewvwg— parts of northern ireland later we ewewvwg .— parts of northern ireland later this evening . tv— parts of northern ireland later this evening . tv online dab and this evening. tv online dab and we— this evening. tv online dab and we re— this evening. tv online dab and we we reeve.— this evening. tv online dab and tune in radio. this— this evening. tv online dab and tune in radio. this is gb news. wow— tune in radio. this is gb news. new vr-s— tune in radio. this is gb news. new vr-s were— tune in radio. this is gb news. now it's time for— tune in radio. this is gb news. now it's time for glory meets. week— now it's time for glory meets. week brewe— now it's time for glory meets. tracy brabin and— now it's time for glory meets. tracy brabin and west yorkshire meyer. — tracy brabin and west yorkshire meyer. rhe— tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. the first— tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. the first and- tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. �*7 mayor. the first and the only woman metro mayor. why.7 well mayor. the first and the only woman metro mayor. why? well you tell me. because it is one of we— tell me. because it is one of we wesr— tell me. because it is one of we wesr vers— tell me. because it is one of the best jobs in— because it is one of the best jobs in politics. were-s— the best jobs in politics. there's ten— the best jobs in politics. there's ten metro mayors across the there's ten metro mayors across rrre eewwrrw — there's ten metro mayors across rrre eewwrrw we— there's ten metro mayors across the country. we represent 22 mvvvvew— the country. we represent 22 million people.— the country. we represent 22 million people. and i am the rvrsr— million people. and i am the first woman,— million people. and i am the first woman, like— million people. and i am the first woman, like you say, but
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reperwvw— first woman, like you say, but regerwvvw err— first woman, like you say, but hopefully an inspiration to erwers— hopefully an inspiration to erwers .— hopefully an inspiration to others . there— hopefully an inspiration to others . there will be other others. there will be other mewers— others. there will be other mayors coming _ others. there will be other mayors coming through the system with mayors coming through the system we rwrmer— mayors coming through the system with further devolution, which is with further devolution, which vs reevw— with further devolution, which is really exciting.— with further devolution, which is really exciting. i think . and is really exciting. i think. and v-m — is really exciting. i think. and rm megmg— is really exciting. i think. and rm megmg mer— is really exciting. i think. and i'm hoping that women can see you— i'm hoping that women can see wew knew.— i'm hoping that women can see you knew. mer— i'm hoping that women can see you know, that i'm— i'm hoping that women can see you know, that i'm really emg-ewmg— you know, that i'm really enjoying ve— you know, that i'm really enjoying vv .— you know, that i'm really enjoying it . we're getting enjoying it. we're getting rmmgs— enjoying it. we're getting things done— enjoying it. we're getting things done and that they are reserved— things done and that they are reserved re— things done and that they are inspired to put— things done and that they are inspired to put their hand in me— inspired to put their hand in me err— inspired to put their hand in me err re— inspired to put their hand in the air to be— inspired to put their hand in the air to be selected . ' “2 v2viv the air to be selected. and do you— the air to be selected. and do yew mmk— the air to be selected. and do yew mmk ve— the air to be selected. and do you think it means your priority is as a mayor are different by virtue of the fact that you're a woman? oh, there's no doubt eeewr— woman? oh, there's no doubt eeewr re.— woman? oh, there's no doubt eeewr m r— woman? oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean— woman? oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean ,_ 7 oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean , our lived about it. i mean, our lived egervemee— about it. i mean, our lived egervemee es— about it. i mean, our lived experience as women is it's our swgergewer— experience as women is it's our swgergewer .— experience as women is it's our swgergewer . vsm-r— experience as women is it's our superpower , isn't it? because we superpower, isn't it? because we knew— superpower, isn't it? because we knew wher— superpower, isn't it? because we know what needs— superpower, isn't it? because we know what needs to be done. and i know what needs to be done. and v rmmk— know what needs to be done. and v rmmk ee— know what needs to be done. and vrmmk er— know what needs to be done. and i think one of the— know what needs to be done. and i think one of the first decisions— i think one of the first decisions i— i think one of the first decisions i made as mayor was to mwre— decisions i made as mayor was to me mgr.— decisions i made as mayor was to invite right, alison— decisions i made as mayor was to invite right, alison lowe, to be my eegwry— invite right, alison lowe, to be my deputy mayor— invite right, alison lowe, to be my deputy mayor for police and ewme— my deputy mayor for police and . ame— my deputy mayor for police and . ame es— my deputy mayor for police and crime . and as a— my deputy mayor for police and crime . and as a woman of colour crime. and as a woman of colour as crime. and as a woman of colour es wen.— crime. and as a woman of colour es wevv. eme— crime. and as a woman of colour as well, and somebody who was an ex eewmevvvee— as well, and somebody who was an ex councillor and— as well, and somebody who was an ex councillor and also the chair of ex councillor and also the chair er me— ex councillor and also the chair er me perke— ex councillor and also the chair of the police and— ex councillor and also the chair of the police and crime panel wvm— of the police and crime panel came with enormous experience, but came with enormous experience, we evse— came with enormous experience, we evse mee— came with enormous experience, but also her own— came with enormous experience, but also her own lived experience _ but also her own lived experience .- but also her own lived experience . yes. and she talks experience. yes. and she talks very— experience. yes. and she talks weey egemvy— experience. yes. and she talks
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very openly about— experience. yes. and she talks very openly about it being a swewwee— very openly about it being a swewwee er— very openly about it being a survivor of child— very openly about it being a survivor of child abuse and so ame— survivor of child abuse and so were my— survivor of child abuse and so on. and my lived— survivor of child abuse and so on. and my lived experience regemee— on. and my lived experience regerveee mes— on. and my lived experience together has driven our focus on the together has driven our focus on me serery— together has driven our focus on me serery er— together has driven our focus on the safety of women and girls as a the safety of women and girls as e eereevry— the safety of women and girls as e eereevry ree— the safety of women and girls as a priority for our— the safety of women and girls as a priority for our police and eme— a priority for our police and ever. — a priority for our police and crime plan. so— a priority for our police and crime plan. so leadership really merrees— crime plan. so leadership really merrees .— crime plan. so leadership really merrees . are— crime plan. so leadership really matters . and i— crime plan. so leadership really matters . and i think hopefully matters. and i think hopefully mer— matters. and i think hopefully we evse— matters. and i think hopefully that also impacts on our revveves. — that also impacts on our policies. now— that also impacts on our policies. now before you were wesr— policies. now before you were west yorkshire _ policies. now before you were west yorkshire mayor, you were a eme— west yorkshire mayor, you were a me er— west yorkshire mayor, you were a member of parliament and labour eme— member of parliament and labour rme er— member of parliament and labour member of parliament and labour member of parliament before that you member of parliament before that yew ree— member of parliament before that yew ree e— member of parliament before that yew ree e geeer— member of parliament before that you had a great life— member of parliament before that you had a great life looking at veesr— you had a great life looking at veesr rem— you had a great life looking at least from the— you had a great life looking at least from the outside . /v:iv. you had a great life looking at least from the outside . /v:iiv. “rivv2 least from the outside. you had vers— least from the outside. you had we er— least from the outside. you had we er ev— least from the outside. you had lots of tv roles— least from the outside. you had lots of tv roles amongst which you were. tricia armstrong in like the greatest show on the planet , coronation street . why? planet, coronation street. why? jack in being an actor, an actress for politics? well it wasn't that i it in and then decided to be a politician. fate and circumstance ince eereee— fate and circumstance ince reeveee r— fate and circumstance ince decided it for— fate and circumstance ince decided it for me. you'll remember jo— decided it for me. you'll remember jo cox as an actor , i rememberjo cox as an actor, i ever— rememberjo cox as an actor, i erer seem— rememberjo cox as an actor, i
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often spent time— rememberjo cox as an actor, i often spent time supporting veeewe— often spent time supporting labour candidates in elections, were— labour candidates in elections, whether that's— labour candidates in elections, whether that's councillors or eereveeres— whether that's councillors or candidates to— whether that's councillors or candidates to be _ whether that's councillors or candidates to be mps, and i met jo candidates to be mps, and i met re revewr— candidates to be mps, and i met re rvewr ewey— candidates to be mps, and i met jo blown away. she's an incredible— jo blown away. she's an incredible woman and campaigned incredible woman and campaigned m revvey— incredible woman and campaigned m revvey ere— incredible woman and campaigned in batley and spen— incredible woman and campaigned in batley and spen with jo and mer— in batley and spen with jo and rrer egevr— in batley and spen with jo and then again when— in batley and spen with jo and then again when she was elected to then again when she was elected re keep— then again when she was elected re keep me— then again when she was elected to keep the local— then again when she was elected to keep the local library open ere— to keep the local library open ere mer— to keep the local library open and then when— to keep the local library open and then when she was murdered, i and then when she was murdered, v meer— and then when she was murdered, v we— and then when she was murdered, i mean we were all— and then when she was murdered, i mean we were all so shocked. it i mean we were all so shocked. vr es— i mean we were all so shocked. r se— i mean we were all so shocked. vr se ewe— i mean we were all so shocked. r se ewr er— i mean we were all so shocked. it was so out of the— i mean we were all so shocked. it was so out of the blue and ewrwv— it was so out of the blue and ewrwv wrer— it was so out of the blue and awful when i— it was so out of the blue and awful when i went to the funeral ere— awful when i went to the funeral ere v— awful when i went to the funeral ere v seve— awful when i went to the funeral ere v seve re— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one of— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one of her memes.— and i said to one of her friends, what- and i said to one of her friends, what can i do? and she sever.— friends, what can i do? and she see. we— friends, what can i do? and she see. we yew— friends, what can i do? and she said, do you want— friends, what can i do? and she said, do you want to be an mp? i sweeervy— said, do you want to be an mp? i suddenly realised,— said, do you want to be an mp? i suddenly realised, actually, mers— suddenly realised, actually, rrer-s r.— suddenly realised, actually, that's it. that's— suddenly realised, actually, that's it. that's what i'm you krew— that's it. that's what i'm you krew. v— that's it. that's what i'm you know, i wasn't— that's it. that's what i'm you know, i wasn't guaranteed that i wewve— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i wewve re— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i wewve be me— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i would be the candidate because ereee— would be the candidate because ereee wee— would be the candidate because ereee ro— would be the candidate because there were 40 others. but i rrewgrr— there were 40 others. but i rrewgrr .— there were 40 others. but i rrewgrr . re— there were 40 others. but i thought , no, i— there were 40 others. but i thought, no, i must do that for my ree— thought, no, i must do that for my ree my— thought, no, i must do that for my ree my rewr— thought, no, i must do that for my for my town because i was eerr— my for my town because i was rem m— my for my town because i was born in batley. _ my for my town because i was born in batley. my— my for my town because i was born in batley. my mum had a eere— born in batley. my mum had a eere m— born in batley. my mum had a cafe in birstall_ born in batley. my mum had a cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. cafe in birstall and, and i knew re. v— cafe in birstall and, and i knew re. v evse— cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. i also know— cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. i also know hadn't tried to be jo. i also know hadn't tried to re er— jo. i also know hadn't tried to re er wr— jo. i also know hadn't tried to be an mp before,— jo. i also know hadn't tried to be an mp before, so i didn't reve— be an mp before, so i didn't rewe eree— be an mp before, so i didn't have that sort— be an mp before, so i didn't have that sort of— be an mp before, so i didn't
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have that sort of that baggage ere— have that sort of that baggage ere evse— have that sort of that baggage ere evse. v— have that sort of that baggage and also, i think— have that sort of that baggage and also, i think actors have enormous empathy and i think mer— enormous empathy and i think me es— enormous empathy and i think that was really— enormous empathy and i think that was really needed because we eeevvy— that was really needed because we were really hurting as a eemmwrry— we were really hurting as a community and— we were really hurting as a community and people would see me m— community and people would see me m ere— community and people would see me in the street— community and people would see me in the street and burst into veers— me in the street and burst into tears because— me in the street and burst into tears because it— me in the street and burst into tears because it would remind erem— tears because it would remind rrem mer— tears because it would remind rrem rrer rm— tears because it would remind them that i'm only there because jo them that i'm only there because re wesrr— them that i'm only there because re wesrr se— them that i'm only there because jo wasn't so really,— them that i'm only there because jo wasn't so really, really regre— jo wasn't so really, really reegve .— jo wasn't so really, really veegve . are— jo wasn't so really, really tragic . and i— jo wasn't so really, really tragic . and i didn't really know tragic. and i didn't really know wrer— tragic. and i didn't really know we r— tragic. and i didn't really know we r es— tragic. and i didn't really know what i was doing— tragic. and i didn't really know what i was doing either. so i eeeeme— what i was doing either. so i became an mp— what i was doing either. so i became an mp and i was in so mwer— became an mp and i was in so mwer meek.— became an mp and i was in so much shock. i'd— became an mp and i was in so much shock. i'd never even been in much shock. i'd never even been m eerr— much shock. i'd never even been m rem ereee— much shock. i'd never even been in beth mead house of parliament.— in beth mead house of parliament. so it was a it was a rewgr— parliament. so it was a it was a rewgr gm— parliament. so it was a it was a rewgr gvg. ewe— parliament. so it was a it was a tough gig, but lots— parliament. so it was a it was a tough gig, but lots of support rem— tough gig, but lots of support from colleagues— tough gig, but lots of support from colleagues like yourself ere— from colleagues like yourself ere errees— from colleagues like yourself and others in— from colleagues like yourself and others in parliament to get rreewgr— and others in parliament to get rreewgr . — and others in parliament to get rreewgr . se— and others in parliament to get through . so you've- and others in parliament to get through . “rivv2 and others in parliament to get through . 2 through. so you've had these great jobs, politician, leading politician , mp, mayor, actor, politician, mp, mayor, actor, but actually you start in life was was really humble . you grew was was really humble. you grew up in a council house. well, yeah. and what's been really wserwv— yeah. and what's been really useful about— yeah. and what's been really useful about that— and what's been really useful about that experience is my eee— useful about that experience is my red es— useful about that experience is my dad was always in and out of week. — my dad was always in and out of week. we— my dad was always in and out of week. he es— my dad was always in and out of week. he e— my dad was always in and out of work. he was a salesman at and wee— work. he was a salesman at and were rewgrr— work. he was a salesman at and were rewgrr e— work. he was a salesman at and we'd bought a house and then eewver-r— we'd bought a house and then couldn't continue— we'd bought a house and then couldn't continue paying the em— couldn't continue paying the em .— couldn't continue paying the em . ere— couldn't continue paying the rent , the mortgage and obviously
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rent, the mortgage and obviously this rent, the mortgage and obviously rrvs ervmes— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with so— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with so many people at this chimes with so many people er ere— this chimes with so many people er rre memem— this chimes with so many people at the moment with mortgages sky mgr. — at the moment with mortgages sky mgr. se— at the moment with mortgages sky mgr. se my— at the moment with mortgages sky mgr. se my wer— at the moment with mortgages sky high. so my mum took the key reek— high. so my mum took the key reek re— high. so my mum took the key reek re re— high. so my mum took the key back to the to _ high. so my mum took the key back to the to the— high. so my mum took the key back to the to the building seevery— back to the to the building seevery ere— back to the to the building society and for— back to the to the building society and for a while there rwge— society and for a while there was huge anxiety that we were remevess— was huge anxiety that we were homeless and,— was huge anxiety that we were homeless and, you know, we were very— homeless and, you know, we were very yewrg. — homeless and, you know, we were very yewrg. se— homeless and, you know, we were very yewrg. se my— homeless and, you know, we were very young. so my mum had two revve— very young. so my mum had two were eres— very young. so my mum had two little ones and— very young. so my mum had two little ones and my— very young. so my mum had two little ones and my dad went to the little ones and my dad went to me eewrevv— little ones and my dad went to the council and— little ones and my dad went to the council and threw himself on the council and threw himself on ere meeey— the council and threw himself on ere meeey er— the council and threw himself on the mercy of the— the council and threw himself on the mercy of the council because we gevrg— the mercy of the council because we gevrg re— the mercy of the council because we were going to be homeless and we were going to be homeless and we ger— we were going to be homeless and we ger e— we were going to be homeless and we ger e ewe— we were going to be homeless and we got a two bedroom council rev.— we got a two bedroom council rev. ewe— we got a two bedroom council flat. but what— we got a two bedroom council flat. but what was what was eeevvy— flat. but what was what was really powerful— flat. but what was what was really powerful about that is mer— really powerful about that is we r— really powerful about that is we r krew— really powerful about that is that i know now— really powerful about that is that i know now only that i know now that i've only weer— that i know now that i've only weer-re— that i know now that i've only been -to achieve- that i know now that i've only been to achieve i've been able to achieve what i've eervewee— been able to achieve what i've eervewee-we- been able to achieve what i've achieved -we -that| achieved because we had that seeweky— achieved because we had that seewevvy. mer— achieved because we had that security, that it— achieved because we had that security, that it wasn't about a vereveee— security, that it wasn't about a landlord who _ security, that it wasn't about a landlord who was— security, that it wasn't about a landlord who was then going to serv— landlord who was then going to sevv-eeereery— landlord who was then going to sevv-eeereery ee— landlord who was then going to sell property or put the sell the property or put the eerrs— sell the property or put the rents- know, - sell the property or put the rents know, that's why rents up. you know, that's why for rents up. you know, that's why ree me— rents up. you know, that's why ree er— rents up. you know, that's why for me, one of my— rents up. you know, that's why for me, one of my manifesto eemmrmerrs.— for me, one of my manifesto commitments, 5000 affordable remes— commitments, 5000 affordable remes ere— commitments, 5000 affordable remes ere we— commitments, 5000 affordable homes and we know that housing is homes and we know that housing vs swer— homes and we know that housing vs swer e— homes and we know that housing vs swer e rwge— homes and we know that housing is such a huge crisis, you will rer— is such a huge crisis, you will not flourish— is such a huge crisis, you will not flourish unless you have sere — not flourish unless you have sere reme. — not flourish unless you have safe home. and— not flourish unless you have safe home. and that's why it's in safe home. and that's why it's m vereer— safe home. and that's why it's in london and— safe home. and that's why it's in london and elsewhere . mayors in london and elsewhere. mayors ere— in london and elsewhere. mayors across the country— in london and elsewhere. mayors across the country are really seevrg— across the country are really seeing housing— across the country are really seeing housing as a priority. so it
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seeing housing as a priority. so r r— seeing housing as a priority. so r r rees— seeing housing as a priority. so it it does motivate— seeing housing as a priority. so it it does motivate you. you krew— it it does motivate you. you krew .— it it does motivate you. you krew . rew— it it does motivate you. you know , how you— it it does motivate you. you know , how you how you face know, how you how you face erevverges— know, how you how you face challenges or— know, how you how you face challenges or what's in front of you— challenges or what's in front of yew eevwevvy— challenges or what's in front of yew eerwevvy vs— challenges or what's in front of you actually is useful when you reve— you actually is useful when you rewe yew— you actually is useful when you rewe yew krew.— you actually is useful when you have you know, you go on into a revrveev— have you know, you go on into a revvrveev kre— have you know, you go on into a political life and— have you know, you go on into a political life and that's why r-s— political life and that's why vr-s eeevvy— political life and that's why it's really important that we get— it's really important that we ger eweesry— it's really important that we get diversity in— it's really important that we get diversity in westminster of eeeme— get diversity in westminster of ww“! wree— get diversity in westminster of people who've lived and had evreeerr— people who've lived and had different experiences and not all different experiences and not we re— different experiences and not we we sere— different experiences and not all the same journey through , all the same journey through, wrerree— all the same journey through, whether that's— all the same journey through, whether that's eton or oxbridge. are— whether that's eton or oxbridge. are se— whether that's eton or oxbridge. are se — whether that's eton or oxbridge. are se ewe— whether that's eton or oxbridge. and so on. but know the and so on. but they know the eeree— and so on. but they know the were er— and so on. but they know the price of things. _ and so on. but they know the price of things. “vi”vi; and so on. but they know the price of things. ”vi; price of things. there's not enough people from working class backgrounds in politics. oh, that's true. and diversity ere— that's true. and diversity across the region as well. not r-wsr— across the region as well. not me rem— across the region as well. not just from london,— across the region as well. not just from london, you know, from rem— just from london, you know, from reem rre — just from london, you know, from from the regions— just from london, you know, from from the regions outside of vereer.— from the regions outside of vereer. rrey— from the regions outside of london, they bring a completely evreeerr— london, they bring a completely different voice. _ london, they bring a completely different voice. and that's why we reed— different voice. and that's why we reee re— different voice. and that's why we need to-rid_ different voice. and that's why we need to-rid of- different voice. and that's why we need to rid of the house we need to get rid of the house of we need to get rid of the house er veers— we need to get rid of the house er veers ere— we need to get rid of the house of lords and have— we need to get rid of the house of lords and have that regions ere— of lords and have that regions ere-mer— of lords and have that regions and that democratically and nations that democratically eveeree— and nations that democratically eveeree ere— and nations that democratically elected and representation of , elected and representation of, you— elected and representation of, yew krew.— elected and representation of, yew krew. er— elected and representation of, you know, of the— elected and representation of, you know, of the whole of rrgvere.— you know, of the whole of england, england and the uk . england, england and the uk. i were— england, england and the uk. i were re— england, england and the uk. i were re eek— england, england and the uk. i want to ask you— england, england and the uk. i want to ask you about- england, england and the uk. want to ask you about what happened to you when you were aged 20 at university. mhm well, i was really lucky to go to well, i was really lucky to go re wrweesry— well, i was really lucky to go to university and— well, i was really lucky to go to university and i did drama
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ere— to university and i did drama ere v— to university and i did drama ere v es— to university and i did drama and i was attacked by a stranger in and i was attacked by a stranger m ere— and i was attacked by a stranger m we sreeer— and i was attacked by a stranger in the street who _ and i was attacked by a stranger in the street who tried to rape re— in the street who tried to rape me. he was caught. he went to reser— me. he was caught. he went to revser ere— me. he was caught. he went to revser ere v— me. he was caught. he went to revser ere v ger— me. he was caught. he went to prison and i got justice. yes. are— prison and i got justice. yes. are se— prison and i got justice. yes. and so actually— prison and i got justice. yes. and so actually for a horrendous memem— and so actually for a horrendous vreveerr .— and so actually for a horrendous vreveerr . r.— and so actually for a horrendous incident, it, it— and so actually for a horrendous incident , it, it was— and so actually for a horrendous incident, it, it was a good and so actually for a horrendous incident , it, it was a good news incident, it, it was a good news sreey— incident, it, it was a good news sveey eeese— incident, it, it was a good news story because he— incident, it, it was a good news story because he wasn't my rwseere-s— story because he wasn't my husband's friend or my colleague at husband's friend or my colleague er week— husband's friend or my colleague er week ee— husband's friend or my colleague er week ee e— husband's friend or my colleague at work or a stranger that was eewgrr— at work or a stranger that was eewgrr .— at work or a stranger that was never caught . you know, it never caught. you know, it eerwevvy— never caught. you know, it actually was— never caught. you know, it actually was was i got justice. ewe— actually was was i got justice. rwr v— actually was was i got justice. but i remember— actually was was i got justice. but i remember being in the eeree— but i remember being in the revvee eeree— but i remember being in the police police station and a young— police police station and a yewrg wemer— police police station and a young woman coming up to the desk— young woman coming up to the desk wrvvsr— young woman coming up to the desk wrvvsr v— young woman coming up to the desk whilst i was— young woman coming up to the desk whilst i was leaving eeese— desk whilst i was leaving because i'd— desk whilst i was leaving because i'd been there eweervgm.— because i'd been there overnight. and she said, we rewre— overnight. and she said, we rewre ems— overnight. and she said, we found this shoe— overnight. and she said, we found this shoe in our garden ere— found this shoe in our garden ere we— found this shoe in our garden and we heard— found this shoe in our garden and we heard screaming last rvgrr— and we heard screaming last rvgrr ere— and we heard screaming last rvgrv ere we— and we heard screaming last night and we really worried. and i night and we really worried. and v es— night and we really worried. and v eke.— night and we really worried. and i was like, that's— night and we really worried. and i was like, that's my shoe. what weerg wrer— i was like, that's my shoe. what was wrong with you? why didn't you was wrong with you? why didn't yew eere— was wrong with you? why didn't yew eeme-sre— was wrong with you? why didn't you come she said, well, you come out? she said, well, we were-scared and— you come out? she said, well, we were-scared and i- you come out? she said, well, we were scared and i said, were really scared and i said, wee— were really scared and i said, we are— were really scared and i said, we? and there— were really scared and i said, we? and there was a group of women in a house that heard me rvgrrvrg— women in a house that heard me rvgmvrg-vre— women in a house that heard me fighting life outside and fighting for my life outside and ree— fighting for my life outside and were too scared— fighting for my life outside and were too scared to— fighting for my life outside and were too scared to come out. and i were too scared to come out. and viwsr— were too scared to come out. and viwsv rrewgrr— were too scared to come out. and viwsv rrewgm er— were too scared to come out. and i just thought at that point, or..— i just thought at that point, er. ems— i just thought at that point, er. rrvs vs— i just thought at that point, oh, this is this— i just thought at that point, oh, this is this is terrible ,
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oh, this is this is terrible, rrvs— oh, this is this is terrible, mks—ere- oh, this is this is terrible,- this_ and politicise this is hopeless and politicise se— this is hopeless and politicise se m— this is hopeless and politicise se m e— this is hopeless and politicise se m e wey— this is hopeless and politicise me. so in a way ,_ this is hopeless and politicise me. so in a way , whilst it was me. so in a way, whilst it was eewewsvy— me. so in a way, whilst it was obviously horrendous and it was eeevvy— obviously horrendous and it was eeevvy rewgr— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for a— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for a couple of yeees— really tough for a couple of yeees erewr— really tough for a couple of years about feeling anxious all the years about feeling anxious all rre rime.— years about feeling anxious all me me. wm— years about feeling anxious all the time, um, it— years about feeling anxious all the time, um, it was my, my review— the time, um, it was my, my political journey— the time, um, it was my, my political journey into the women's movement, into greenham eemere— women's movement, into greenham eemere re— women's movement, into greenham common, to understanding why it repreree— common, to understanding why it regreree .— common, to understanding why it happened , because it was about happened, because it was about eewee— happened, because it was about eewee se— happened, because it was about rewee se r— happened, because it was about power. so it was— happened, because it was about power. so it was horrendous . power. so it was horrendous. rye— power. so it was horrendous. v-we weer— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able to— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able to and this is me— i've been able to and this is me gveey— i've been able to and this is me gveey er— i've been able to and this is me gveey er r— i've been able to and this is me gveey er r .— i've been able to and this is the glory of it . i've been able the glory of it. i've been able to the glory of it. i've been able re wse— the glory of it. i've been able re mer— the glory of it. i've been able to use that experience to then put— to use that experience to then ewr rre — to use that experience to then ewe rre serery— to use that experience to then put the safety of— to use that experience to then put the safety of women and gvevs— put the safety of women and gvevs er— put the safety of women and gvevs er me— put the safety of women and girls at the heart— put the safety of women and girls at the heart of my police ere— girls at the heart of my police ere erre— girls at the heart of my police and crime plan— girls at the heart of my police and crime plan investing many mvvvvers— and crime plan investing many mvvvvers er— and crime plan investing many millions of pounds into to mekvrg— millions of pounds into to mekvrg wesr— millions of pounds into to making west yorkshire the safest ereee— making west yorkshire the safest ereee re — making west yorkshire the safest eveee re re — making west yorkshire the safest eveee re be e— making west yorkshire the safest place to be a woman or a girl rvgrrvrg— place to be a woman or a girl rvgrrvrg ree— place to be a woman or a girl fighting for your— place to be a woman or a girl fighting for your life. those are words that— fighting for your life. those are words that you just used . it are words that you just used. it sounds like an absolutely horrific attack. in fact, you described it as the worst thing that you could imagine having happened to you , how you happened to you, how you mentioned that a couple of years after that that things were tough in what sense is it flashbacks ? is it trauma? is it
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flashbacks? is it trauma? is it sleepless nights ? is it put it sleepless nights? is it put it into your own words? most of us, thank goodness, have never been subject to what you went through. yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean , i wouldn't say 2“ v“/vi;rivi“ iviiv“ iviiv“ i mean , i wouldn't say there's mean, i wouldn't say there's rvesreeeks.— mean, i wouldn't say there's flashbacks, but— mean, i wouldn't say there's flashbacks, but there was eeerevrvy— flashbacks, but there wasi certainly—about certainly something about wevkvrg— certainly something about walking around a corner. semeeeey— walking around a corner. somebody stood there and you iwsr— somebody stood there and you iwsr krew— somebody stood there and you just knew this— somebody stood there and you just knew this was the moment. rrvs— just knew this was the moment. rrvs es— just knew this was the moment. rrvs me— just knew this was the moment. this was the moment that eweeyreey-s— this was the moment that everybody's talked about that yewr— everybody's talked about that yewe wm— everybody's talked about that yewe res— everybody's talked about that your mum has said this, you know this your mum has said this, you know we yew— your mum has said this, you know rrvs yew srewve— your mum has said this, you know this you should just— your mum has said this, you know this you should just need them in this you should just need them vr me— this you should just need them m rre-ere— this you should just need them in the-and run- this you should just need them in the and run away or in the balls and run away or wrerewee.— in the balls and run away or whatever. -freeze . in the balls and run away or whatever. freeze was whatever. and that freeze was eeevvy— whatever. and that freeze was eeevvy ngre— whatever. and that freeze was really quite frightening. that i wesrr— really quite frightening. that i wesrr eeevvy— really quite frightening. that i wasn't really capable of then mewrg— wasn't really capable of then moving because— wasn't really capable of then moving because i just knew that mers— moving because i just knew that rrer-s wrer— moving because i just knew that that's what his— moving because i just knew that that's what his intention was . that's what his intention was. wrer— that's what his intention was. wrer eeevvy— that's what his intention was. what really helped me , gloria, what really helped me, gloria, v— what really helped me, gloria, v ger— what really helped me, gloria, was i got compensation for the ereek— was i got compensation for the ereek ere— was i got compensation for the ereek ere v— was i got compensation for the attack and i bought a bicycle. are— attack and i bought a bicycle. are rem— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then on— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then on in, i thought, v-m — and from then on in, i thought, rm gevrg— and from then on in, i thought, i'm never going to— and from then on in, i thought, i'm never going to walk the sreeers— i'm never going to walk the streets again— i'm never going to walk the streets again because that's wrer— streets again because that's when yew-ee— streets again because that's when you're most vulnerable. if yewee— when you're most vulnerable. if you're on a bike,— when you're most vulnerable. if you're on a bike, you can cycle ewey— you're on a bike, you can cycle ewey ere— you're on a bike, you can cycle ewey ere r— you're on a bike, you can cycle away and it really— you're on a bike, you can cycle away and it really did lift my meee— away and it really did lift my meee ere— away and it really did lift my mood and made— away and it really did lift my mood and made me feel that i eewve— mood and made me feel that i eewve yew— mood and made me feel that i could you know,— mood and made me feel that i could you know, respond in a way mers— could you know, respond in a way rrer-s resrwe. — could you know, respond in a way that's positive. thank god he eewgrr—
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that's positive. thank god he was caught and— that's positive. thank god he was caught and sentenced first. were— was caught and sentenced first. were yew— was caught and sentenced first. were you informed— was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when- was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when he- was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when he was let out? no. no and whether mers— let out? no. no and whether rrer-s me— let out? no. no and whether that's the process,- let out? no. no and whether that's the process, i- c7 \vi.v \vi.v and whether that's the process, i don't know . rewr— that's the process, i don't know . rwr v— that's the process, i don't know . rwr v wesrr— that's the process, i don't know . but i wasn't interested in in in . but i wasn't interested in in m mer— . but i wasn't interested in in m we are— . but i wasn't interested in in in that. and i'm— . but i wasn't interested in in in that. and i'm not interested in that. and i'm not interested m mm — in that. and i'm not interested m mm er— in that. and i'm not interested m mm er en.— in that. and i'm not interested in him at all. but,— in that. and i'm not interested in him at all. but, you know , i in him at all. but, you know, i iwsr— in him at all. but, you know, i iwsr reev— in him at all. but, you know, i iwsv reek ree— in him at all. but, you know, i just feel for all— in him at all. but, you know, i just feel for all those women mer— just feel for all those women we ever-r— just feel for all those women that don't get— just feel for all those women that don't get that justice. and mers— that don't get that justice. and rrer-s wry— that don't get that justice. and rrer-s wry r-s— that don't get that justice. and that's why it's really been vmreererr— that's why it's really been important for— that's why it's really been important for me to invest just in independent— important for me to invest just in independent sexual violence ewesees— in independent sexual violence advisors, because— in independent sexual violence advisors, because we know that wrer— advisors, because we know that wrer ge— advisors, because we know that when women go through this rees— when women go through this reeeess ere— when women go through this process and it's— when women go through this process and it's more often than not women, that— process and it's more often than not women, that the court case is se— not women, that the court case is se verg— not women, that the court case is se verg re— not women, that the court case is so long to three,— not women, that the court case is so long to three, four years mer— is so long to three, four years we rrey— is so long to three, four years rrer vrey gwe— is so long to three, four years that they give up— is so long to three, four years that they give up because rrey-ee— that they give up because vrey-ee rrey— that they give up because they're they want help for their rewme — they're they want help for their rewme rrey— they're they want help for their trauma. they want to get rreeery. — trauma. they want to get therapy- they— trauma. they want to get therapy. they want to move on wrr— therapy. they want to move on wrr mere— therapy. they want to move on with their life.— therapy. they want to move on with their life. and the waiting mer— with their life. and the waiting means that they— with their life. and the waiting means that they fall away. so an esre— means that they fall away. so an esre ee— means that they fall away. so an esre ee e— means that they fall away. so an esre ee e reve— means that they fall away. so an esfa or a idva sort— means that they fall away. so an esfa or a idva sort of carry you rreewgr— esfa or a idva sort of carry you rreewgr me— esfa or a idva sort of carry you through the process s so that we get through the process s so that we ger eeree— through the process s so that we get better outcomes in west weeksrvee.— get better outcomes in west yorkshire, you've _ get better outcomes in west yorkshire, you've got like a revere— yorkshire, you've got like a revere . — yorkshire, you've got like a revere . r— yorkshire, you've got like a friend . if you've- yorkshire, you've got like a friend. �*7 yorkshire, you've got like a friend . �*7 i“ i friend. if you've been subject to attack, you got the friend, talk you through and be with you
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all that way. how many all that way. yeah. and how many of those have you? we've got 25. 25. yeah yeah. good. let's talk about everyday sexism. so so the hoo ha. when you stood up, you were a shadow secretary of state. you had rushed from an event. you were in the house of commons, you were stood on speaking for the opposition from the front bench . you had quite a the front bench. you had quite a classy dress on it slipped off your shoulder . you literally you your shoulder. you literally you could see a bit of your shoulder. talk us through shoulder. just talk us through the bucha that then ensued . and the bucha that then ensued. and gloria, it was mad. it was i “vi“ 2 and gloria, it was mad. it was mad eeese— gloria, it was mad. it was mad eeese ve— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got a— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got a broken ankle . because i'd got a broken ankle. vvke— because i'd got a broken ankle. vvke yew— because i'd got a broken ankle. vvke yew sey. — because i'd got a broken ankle. vvke yew sey. v— because i'd got a broken ankle. like you say. i was— because i'd got a broken ankle. like you say. i was at a mwsvevers— like you say. i was at a musicians union event. government— musicians union event. government done musicians union event. - government-done something government had done something swerv— government had done something stupid-ll— government had done something srwrvelv ger— government had done something srwrvelv ger er— government had done something stupid. i got an urgent stupid. so i got an urgent gwesiem— stupid. so i got an urgent gwesrver. ger— stupid. so i got an urgent question, got them to the house, ere— question, got them to the house, ere v— question, got them to the house, ere v es— question, got them to the house, and i was leaning— question, got them to the house, and i was leaning on the eesrerer— and i was leaning on the despatch box— and i was leaning on the despatch box and you say it despatch box and like you say it iwsr— despatch box and like you say it iwsv svvgrrvy— despatch box and like you say it just slightly fell— despatch box and like you say it just slightly fell further than svvgrrvy— just slightly fell further than svvgrvvy err— just slightly fell further than slightly off the _ just slightly fell further than slightly off the shoulder. and by me— slightly off the shoulder. and by me me— slightly off the shoulder. and by me rvme|ger— slightly off the shoulder. and by the time got back to my by the time i got back to my emee.— by the time i got back to my ervee.|wes— by the time i got back to my office,iwas a— by the time i got back to my office, was a slag, office, i was a slag, a breastfeeding being taken from terme— breastfeeding being taken from rervre ee— breastfeeding being taken from behind over a— breastfeeding being taken from behind over a wheelie bin. i me— behind over a wheelie bin. i mean the sexual— behind over a wheelie bin. i mean the sexual ization of this memem — mean the sexual ization of this memem se— mean the sexual ization of this memem se my— mean the sexual ization of this moment. so my response was, oh,
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yew— moment. so my response was, oh, yew krew— moment. so my response was, oh, yew krew .— moment. so my response was, oh, yew krew . seeey— moment. so my response was, oh, yew krew . seeey. v— moment. so my response was, oh, you know , sorry, i can't answer you know, sorry, i can't answer all you know, sorry, i can't answer evv er— you know, sorry, i can't answer evv er yew— you know, sorry, i can't answer evv er yew .— you know, sorry, i can't answer evv er yew . wer— you know, sorry, i can't answer all of you . not not— you know, sorry, i can't answer all of you . not not enough time, all of you. not not enough time, but all of you. not not enough time, ewr wre— all of you. not not enough time, ewr wre krew— all of you. not not enough time, but who knew you _ all of you. not not enough time, but who knew you could get so emerverev— but who knew you could get so emotional over— but who knew you could get so emotional over a— but who knew you could get so emotional over a shoulder? and rrvs— emotional over a shoulder? and we es— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked up— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked up on social meme.— this was picked up on social meeve. are— this was picked up on social media. and then— this was picked up on social media. and then i decided to ewerver— media. and then i decided to ewerver me— media. and then i decided to auction the £35— media. and then i decided to auction the £35 asos dress for the auction the £35 asos dress for me reeeeees— auction the £35 asos dress for the proceeds to _ auction the £35 asos dress for the proceeds to go to the girl ngees— the proceeds to go to the girl ngees wre— the proceeds to go to the girl guides who do— the proceeds to go to the girl guides who do brilliant work on very— guides who do brilliant work on very sremvrg— guides who do brilliant work on body shaming for— guides who do brilliant work on body shaming for young girls . body shaming for young girls. are— body shaming for young girls. are we— body shaming for young girls. and we raised— body shaming for young girls. and we raised £20,200 for that dress — and we raised £20,200 for that dress are— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's just— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's just like , well, dress. and it's just like, well, you— dress. and it's just like, well, yew krew.— dress. and it's just like, well, you know, thanks, trolls . you know, thanks, trolls. vewke — you know, thanks, trolls. you've, you've - you know, thanks, trolls. you've, you've done us a favour mere.— you've, you've done us a favour rreee. vr-s— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite a— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite a good thing. veer-s— there. it's quite a good thing. rrer-s e— there. it's quite a good thing. that's a really— there. it's quite a good thing. that's a really nice and resvrwe— that's a really nice and positive way— that's a really nice and positive way to end what's been a positive way to end what's been e revvvverr— positive way to end what's been a brilliant interview. ”pig a brilliant interview. tracy merm— a brilliant interview. tracy brabin,-you. my. a brilliant interview. tracy- brabin,-you. my pleasure . brabin, thank you. my pleasure. coming up, it's ann widdecombe . coming up, it's ann widdecombe. were people a bit scared of margaret thatcher, her mps? i think they some were. some .vv�*~iriv”v2iv”vi;i i iv. 37�*vir7 i think they some were. some were . rewr— think they some were. some were . rwr eeerevrvy— think they some were. some were . but certainly she— think they some were. some were . but certainly she was not a rvgwee— . but certainly she was not a rvgwee mer— . but certainly she was not a figure that you— . but certainly she was not a figure that you got pally with eemvrg— figure that you got pally with eemvrg we— figure that you got pally with coming up, shailesh vara i remember with— coming up, shailesh vara i remember with my mother queuing in a remember with my mother queuing m e geeeeey— remember with my mother queuing m e geeeeey sreee— remember with my mother queuing in a grocery store and the eeewe— in a grocery store and the people before— in a grocery store and the people before us were served and meee— people before us were served and were wee— people before us were served and were sme—
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people before us were served and there were some white people eeeme— there were some white people rervre ws— there were some white people behind us and— there were some white people behind us and the storekeeper iwsr— behind us and the storekeeper iwsv vgreeee— behind us and the storekeeper iwsv vgreeee ws— behind us and the storekeeper just ignored us and served them rvesr— just ignored us and served them we ere— just ignored us and served them first and then— just ignored us and served them first and then came back to us. are— first and then came back to us. and yew— first and then came back to us. and you accepted _ first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. - first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. you- first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. you know, this was normal .
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you're listening to gb news . you're listening to gb news keeve— . you're listening to gb news keeve .— . you're listening to gb news keeve . are— you're listening to gb news radio . and widdecombe, one of radio. and widdecombe, one of the radio. and widdecombe, one of me mesr— radio. and widdecombe, one of the most radical,— radio. and widdecombe, one of the most radical, sizeable faces in the most radical, sizeable faces vr revrvsr— the most radical, sizeable faces in british politics— the most radical, sizeable faces in british politics throughout our lifetime. _ in british politics throughout our lifetime. i2 in british politics throughout our lifetime. i: i“ (3le in british politics throughout our lifetime. i: i“ ”38" our lifetime. elected in 1987 as a conservative mp who stayed in parliament till 2010. we're going to talk about your reflections on that period and some thoughts about where we are today. some thoughts about where we are today . margaret thatcher and today. margaret thatcher and john major , what strikes you john major, what strikes you about those two characters who were prime ministers, your prime ministers, during your tenure ? ministers, during your tenure? they were very different people. we— they were very different people. the comparison— they were very different people. the comparison i— they were very different people. the comparison i always make is in the comparison i always make is m me— the comparison i always make is m we wey— the comparison i always make is m we wey rrey— the comparison i always make is in the way they used to come rreewgr— in the way they used to come rreewgr me— in the way they used to come through the lobbies. now i'm mer— through the lobbies. now i'm sure that everybody watching rrvs— sure that everybody watching revs—rwrl sure that everybody watching l rrvs—rwr rre this programme knows, but the way— this programme knows, but the wey-vers— this programme knows, but the wey-wrs-vs- this programme knows, but the way-mps-is there- this programme knows, but the way mps is there are way that mps vote is there are me— way that mps vote is there are two-corridors— way that mps vote is there are two corridors called the two long corridors called the verses— two long corridors called the veeeves er— two long corridors called the lobbies on either— two long corridors called the lobbies on either side of the
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member— lobbies on either side of the eremee-yew— lobbies on either side of the chamber-you go- lobbies on either side of the chamber you go at one lobbies on either side of the- chamber-you golat one end chamber and you go in at one end ere— chamber and you go in at one end ere-wevk— chamber and you go in at one end ere-wevk evv— chamber and you go in at one end and-walk all the— chamber and you go in at one end and walk all the way and you walk all the way rewgr.— and you walk all the way through,-your- and you walk all the way through,-your at the through, given your name at the emee.— through, given your name at the emee-veer — through, given your name at the other,-then you— through, given your name at the other, then you voted and other, and then you voted and you— other, and then you voted and yew-ewmee— other, and then you voted and yew-ewmee er- other, and then you voted and you-quarter of an- other, and then you voted and you quarter of an hour to you have a quarter of an hour to get you have a quarter of an hour to ger rreewgr— you have a quarter of an hour to get through lobbies. so get through the lobbies. so reeeey— get through the lobbies. so. nobody—unless nobody dashes through unless rrey-we— nobody dashes through unless rrey-we ger— nobody dashes through unless rrey-we ger e— nobody dashes through unless they've got a specific reason. rweeyeeey-s— they've got a specific reason. everybody's around everybody's standing around veekvrg—reel looking around, looking for semereey— looking around, looking fori semeeeey—re looking around, looking for- somebody_to take somebody who they want to take semerrvrg— somebody who they want to take semerrvrg-ee.— somebody who they want to take something or, know, something up with or, you know, vsswe— something up with or, you know, vsswelmwrwev— something up with or, you know, issue mutual interest or issue of mutual interest or wrerewee— issue of mutual interest or wrerewee-ee- issue of mutual interest or- whatever- be, lthey're whatever it might be, or they're iwsr— whatever it might be, or they're iwsr-re— whatever it might be, or they're iwsr-re-e- whatever it might be, or they're just-to-a drink- just looking to have a drink wvrr— just looking to have a drink wvrr yew.— just looking to have a drink with you. they're just looking eeme— with you. they're just looking around. margaret thatcher around. when margaret thatcher eeme—reel came through the lobbies, her wsee— came through the lobbies, her wsee re— came through the lobbies, her used to -front_ came through the lobbies, her used to -front of- came through the lobbies, her used to front of her and used to go in front of her and it used to go in front of her and r wewve— used to go in front of her and r wewve re— used to go in front of her and it would be like— used to go in front of her and it would be like the parting of the it would be like the parting of rre-sees— it would be like the parting of the-seas and— it would be like the parting of the seas and then moses the red seas and then moses wewve— the red seas and then moses wewve eeme— the red seas and then moses would come through and vote . would come through and vote. wrer— would come through and vote. wrer rem— would come through and vote. when john major— would come through and vote. when john major came through the retry. — when john major came through the retry. v-m— when john major came through the veeey. v-m swe— when john major came through the lobby. i'm sure his— when john major came through the lobby. i'm sure his pps was mere.— lobby. i'm sure his pps was rreee. rewr— lobby. i'm sure his pps was there, but that's— lobby. i'm sure his pps was there, but that's a private seeeereey. — there, but that's a private secretary. yes. - there, but that's a private secretary. v“/vi;~ir yes. yeah, it's secretary. yes. yes. yeah, it's yewe— secretary. yes. yes. yeah, it's your parliamentary— secretary. v“/vi;~ir yes. yeah, it's your parliamentary aide, eesveevvy— your parliamentary aide, eesveevvy .— your parliamentary aide, basically . and john used to come basically. and john used to come rreewgr— basically. and john used to come rreewgr ere— basically. and john used to come through and he'd— basically. and john used to come through and he'd say to one reser— through and he'd say to one reeser eeeer— through and he'd say to one person, great speech, you made the person, great speech, you made me emee— person, great speech, you made the other night.— person, great speech, you made the other night. he'd say to semeeeey— the other night. he'd say to somebody else,— the other night. he'd say to somebody else, how's your wife? is somebody else, how's your wife? vs-ewr— somebody else, how's your wife? is-outlhospital?- somebody else, how's your wife? is-outlhospital? is- is she out of hospital? is eweeyrrvrg— is she out of hospital? is everything okay? he went everything okay? and he went rreewgr— everything okay? and he went rreewgr vvke— everything okay? and he went through like that. even at the revgrr— through like that. even at the revgrrlevv— through like that. even at the height all pressure on height of all the pressure on his height of all the pressure on ers—wrer- height of all the pressure on ers—wrer wel height of all the pressure oni his—when we had height of all the pressure on- his_when we had no his premiership when we had no meg-eew.— his premiership when we had no meieevry. wrer—
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his premiership when we had no majority, when we— his premiership when we had no majority, when we were riven erem— majority, when we were riven ereee ey— majority, when we were riven ereee by me — majority, when we were riven apart by the arguments over weesreverr.— apart by the arguments over maastricht, we— apart by the arguments over maastricht, we were beset by severe— maastricht, we were beset by sleaze scandals. _ maastricht, we were beset by sleaze scandals. everybody wemer— sleaze scandals. everybody wemer eve— sleaze scandals. everybody wanted rid of— sleaze scandals. everybody wanted rid of us because we'd weer— wanted rid of us because we'd weer-ree— wanted rid of us because we'd weer-fee e— wanted rid of us because we'd been -for a record - wanted rid of us because we'd been for a record four been there for a record four reems— been there for a record four reems-rrer- been there for a record four terms.-then ,- been there for a record four terms.-then , he- been there for a record four terms. then , he never came terms. even then, he never came rreewgr— terms. even then, he never came rreewgr ery— terms. even then, he never came through any other— terms. even then, he never came through any other that through any other way that i rrvrk— through any other way that i rrvrk revvs— through any other way that i think tells you _ through any other way that i think tells you a lot. well, eeewe— think tells you a lot. well, people ee— think tells you a lot. well, people are scared of people are a bit scared of weegeeer— people are a bit scared of margaret thatcher. iv. people are a bit scared of margaret thatcher. iif�*e�*vir margaret thatcher. her mps, as i ervrk— margaret thatcher. her mps, as i think they some were or some were. but certainly she was not a were. but certainly she was not ervgwee— were. but certainly she was not ervgwee mer— were. but certainly she was not a figure that you— ”vi; but certainly she was not a figure that you got pally wvrr. — a figure that you got pally with. interesting “j 2 v2iv with. interesting did she do men— with. interesting did she do small talk? she did small talk with close friends , i think. i with close friends, i think. i think i'm not sure . you may with close friends, i think. i- think i'm not sure . you may have think i'm not sure. you may have all think i'm not sure. you may have evv weer— think i'm not sure. you may have evv her very— think i'm not sure. you may have all been very serious talk, but on all been very serious talk, but er me— all been very serious talk, but on the whole,— all been very serious talk, but on the whole, no,— all been very serious talk, but on the whole, no, she wasn't she wesrr— on the whole, no, she wasn't she wesrr e— on the whole, no, she wasn't she wasn't a particularly sociable reser— wasn't a particularly sociable reeser sre— wasn't a particularly sociable person. she was— wasn't a particularly sociable person. she was focussed on her peer-eer. — person. she was focussed on her peer-eer. sre— person. she was focussed on her project. she knew— person. she was focussed on her project. she knew what she wemer— project. she knew what she wemer re— project. she knew what she wanted to do _ project. she knew what she wanted to do and by gum she did it wanted to do and by gum she did r ere— wanted to do and by gum she did r ere mer— wanted to do and by gum she did it and that was— wanted to do and by gum she did it and that was what she was reewssee— it and that was what she was focussed on. _ it and that was what she was focussed on. so— it and that was what she was focussed on. so you left the conservative party after all that service in 20 1955 years, i'd been a member of the conservative party. i joined at 16 as a conservative party. i joined at re es e yewrg— i joined at 16 as a young conservative. �*vivvy 16 as a young conservative. why on 16 as a young conservative. why er eerr— 16 as a young conservative. why er eerrr eve— 16 as a young conservative. why er eerrr eve yew— 16 as a young conservative. why on earth did you leave any body who can recall those awful years
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when we'd had the referendum? but nobody really wanted to eerwevvy— but nobody really wanted to eerwevvy put— but nobody really wanted to actually put the _ but nobody really wanted to actually put the result into reeervsee— actually put the result into practise? and _ actually put the result into practise? and then we had the ersevwrevy— practise? and then we had the absolutely hopeless premiership of absolutely hopeless premiership er rreeese— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may i— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may i suddenly rewgr.— of theresa may i suddenly rrewgrr. merg— of theresa may i suddenly thought, hang on, this is as it mer— thought, hang on, this is as it rrer ws— thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. _ thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. in— thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. in 2016, we made rrvs— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made we eeevsver— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made this decision and— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made this decision and nobody there is this decision and nobody there vs eerwevvy— this decision and nobody there is actually putting it into ereer. — is actually putting it into effect. and _ is actually putting it into effect. and i— is actually putting it into effect. and i was so angry about it . effect. and i was so angry about r . arse— effect. and i was so angry about r . avse v— effect. and i was so angry about r . avse v es— effect. and i was so angry about it . also, i was angry about the it. also, i was angry about the rereeyev— it. also, i was angry about the rereeyev er— it. also, i was angry about the betrayal of afghan interpreters . wmer — betrayal of afghan interpreters . wmer ger— betrayal of afghan interpreters , which got worse as time went on , which got worse as time went er ere— , which got worse as time went er ere v— , which got worse as time went on and i thought,— , which got worse as time went on and i thought, no, we voted eeewe— on and i thought, no, we voted reexvr. v— on and i thought, no, we voted reexvr. v wem— on and i thought, no, we voted brexit. i want brexit concerns . brexit. i want brexit concerns. vwes— brexit. i want brexit concerns. vwes eer— brexit. i want brexit concerns. lives aren't going— brexit. i want brexit concerns. lives aren't going to give us eeewe— lives aren't going to give us reexvr. se— lives aren't going to give us reexvr. se v— lives aren't going to give us brexit. so i joined the brexit reery. — brexit. so i joined the brexit reery. rrey— brexit. so i joined the brexit party. they have— brexit. so i joined the brexit party. they have now. ' “2 party. they have now. and rrerese— party. they have now. and rrerese wey.— party. they have now. and theresa may, my goodness , it theresa may, my goodness, it seems like a lifetime ago . boris seems like a lifetime ago. boris johnson and liz truss, rishi sunak at any point did you think, oh, actually i quite like this one. maybe, maybe i should go back to home? no, no. i mean, you say, oh, you know,— giv i 7 \vi.v i mean, you say, oh, you know, they've eere— you say, oh, you know, they've were r—
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you say, oh, you know, they've were r rew— you say, oh, you know, they've done it now, they've done brexit rew-werreer— done it now, they've done brexit now northern ireland is now really northern ireland is srvvv— now really northern ireland is srvvv m— now really northern ireland is srvvv vr me— now really northern ireland is still in the single market eeese— still in the single market because of— still in the single market because of the situation in weerreer— because of the situation in northern ireland. we're still swer-eer— northern ireland. we're still sweieer-e- northern ireland. we're still swrieer-e ver- northern ireland. we're still subject-a lot of- northern ireland. we're still subject a lot of eu subject to quite a lot of eu lawr_ subject to quite a lot of eu vew. wmer— subject to quite a lot of eu law, which shouldn't be law, which we shouldn't be swer-eer— law, which we shouldn't be swrieerlery— law, which we shouldn't be subject-any if- law, which we shouldn't be subject any if we'd actually subject to any if we'd actually verv— subject to any if we'd actually vervleer-r— subject to any if we'd actually left. don't consider that left. i don't consider that eeevv— left. i don't consider that brexit-done- left. i don't consider that brexit-done in. left. i don't consider that- brexit-done in anything brexit has been done in anything but brexit has been done in anything ewr reme— brexit has been done in anything ewr reme-yew— brexit has been done in anything but name. you know , given but name. but you know, given wreee— but name. but you know, given wreee we— but name. but you know, given where we are now,— but name. but you know, given where we are now, and i always sey— where we are now, and i always sey revs.— where we are now, and i always sey vrvs. vers— where we are now, and i always sey vrvs. ver-s ry— where we are now, and i always say this, let's try to _ where we are now, and i always say this, let's try to take maximum advantage of where we are maximum advantage of where we eemer— maximum advantage of where we eerree mer— maximum advantage of where we are rather than lamenting that it are rather than lamenting that r eesr-r— are rather than lamenting that it hasn't been— are rather than lamenting that it hasn't been done and it eesr-r— it hasn't been done and it resr-r se— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no,— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no, i— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no, i don't expect me to hasn't so no, i don't expect me re re— hasn't so no, i don't expect me to be overwhelmed— hasn't so no, i don't expect me to be overwhelmed with admiration.— to be overwhelmed with admiration. and then what do we do admiration. and then what do we we wvrr— admiration. and then what do we we we me— admiration. and then what do we do with the afghan— admiration. and then what do we do with the afghan interpreters? left do with the afghan interpreters? verr r— do with the afghan interpreters? verr r evgrr— do with the afghan interpreters? verr vv evgrr wr— do with the afghan interpreters? left it right up to— do with the afghan interpreters? left it right up to the last mvrwre— left it right up to the last minute when— left it right up to the last minute when the taliban was eerwevvy— minute when the taliban was actually sweeping back then, had actually sweeping back then, had eereerve— actually sweeping back then, had a chaotic attempt— actually sweeping back then, had a chaotic attempt at a rescue , a chaotic attempt at a rescue, wmer— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, wmer we— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, which we should— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, which we should have been doing over years, over years, vvreeevvy — over years, over years, literally chaotic attempt at a verr— literally chaotic attempt at a rescue left so— literally chaotic attempt at a rescue left so many behind. some of rescue left so many behind. some er mem— rescue left so many behind. some er rrem ree— rescue left so many behind. some of them fled into— rescue left so many behind. some of them fled into pakistan from wmer— of them fled into pakistan from wmer we— of them fled into pakistan from which we have— of them fled into pakistan from which we have not— of them fled into pakistan from which we have not taken them. are— which we have not taken them. are r— which we have not taken them. are r es— which we have not taken them. are r e— which we have not taken them. and it was a total— which we have not taken them. and it was a total betrayal . and it was a total betrayal. they— and it was a total betrayal. rrey rewr— and it was a total betrayal. they put their— and it was a total betrayal. they put their lives on the line for they put their lives on the line ree eerem— they put their lives on the line for britain and— they put their lives on the line for britain and we— they put their lives on the line for britain and we said not vrreeesree.— for britain and we said not interested. we— for britain and we said not interested. we didn't use those weeds— interested. we didn't use those weees .— interested. we didn't use those weees . rewr— interested. we didn't use those words , but that— interested. we didn't use those words , but that was our
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words, but that was our errvrwee. — words, but that was our attitude. you- words, but that was our attitude. you were in parliament,- attitude. you were in parliament, obviously in 1997. vee— parliament, obviously in 1997. you eewvw— parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've— parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've talked- parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've talked about john major's difficulty as as as premier . the writing was john major's difficulty as as as premier. the writing was on john major's difficulty as as as premier . the writing was on the premier. the writing was on the wall. absolutely we all knew veer.— wall. absolutely we all knew we veer.— wall. absolutely we all knew that. yeah. any— ' c�*filc�*uv we all knew that. yeah. any parallels with wrer-s— that. yeah. any parallels with what's happening today, do you rrvrk— what's happening today, do you rrvrk me— what's happening today, do you think the writing— what's happening today, do you think the writing is on the wall mer— think the writing is on the wall rrer e— think the writing is on the wall that a labour— think the writing is on the wall that a labour government is eereme— that a labour government is eeeewrv. vsr-r— that a labour government is corrupt, isn't it?— that a labour government is corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major ree— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major ree e— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major had a tiny— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major had a tiny little meg-eew.— major had a tiny little majority, you know, which geeewevvy— majority, you know, which. geeewevvy—rre gradually over time with the errevrver — gradually over time with the attrition - death i gradually over time with the attrition death and gradually over time with the- attrition-death and by attrition caused by death and by eveervers— attrition caused by death and by elections went— attrition caused by death and by elections went down to, you krew.— elections went down to, you krew. erewr— elections went down to, you know, about two. - elections went down to, you know, about two. he had a mvrwsewev— know, about two. he had a minuscule majority and boris vr wvrr— minuscule majority and boris came in with a— minuscule majority and boris came in with a majority of 88 oh,— came in with a majority of 88 or. ere— came in with a majority of 88 or. ere mesr— came in with a majority of 88 oh, and most of— came in with a majority of 88 oh, and most of that majority is srvvv— oh, and most of that majority is srvvv meee— oh, and most of that majority is srvvv rreee .— oh, and most of that majority is still there . it's— oh, and most of that majority is still there . it's been slightly still there. it's been slightly eeeweee. — still there. it's been slightly reduced. most— still there. it's been slightly reduced. most of it's still mere.— reduced. most of it's still there. this— reduced. most of it's still there. this is— reduced. most of it's still there. this is a- reduced. most of it's still there. this is a government wmer— there. this is a government which should— there. this is a government which should be able to do eryrrvrg— which should be able to do eryrrvrg r— which should be able to do anything it-to- which should be able to do anything it to do and it's anything it wants to do and it's rerevess.— anything it wants to do and it's rerevess. are— anything it wants to do and it's hopeless. and what i now have re— hopeless. and what i now have re me— hopeless. and what i now have come to the conclusion and i've eesvsree— come to the conclusion and i've eesvsree rrvs— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for a— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for a long time, rewr— resisted this for a long time, ewr v— resisted this for a long time, ewr v rrvrk— resisted this for a long time, but i think now— resisted this for a long time, but i think now it's inevitable meee— but i think now it's inevitable rreee vs— but i think now it's inevitable rreee vs e— but i think now it's inevitable there is a fault— but i think now it's inevitable there is a fault line in the conservative— there is a fault line in the conservative party over europe, wmer— conservative party over europe, wmer vs— conservative party over europe, wmer vs rer— conservative party over europe, which is not going— conservative party over europe, which is not going to go away. vr-s— which is not going to go away. vr-s iwsr— which is not going to go away. vr-s iwsr rer— which is not going to go away. it's just not going— which is not going to go away. it's just not going to go away. it's just not going to go away. v meer— it's just not going to go away. v v— it's just not going to go away. i mean, i think— it's just not going to go away. i mean, i think everybody rewgr.— i mean, i think everybody thought,-the- i mean, i think everybody thought, the referendum thought, well, the referendum
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wiv— thought, well, the referendum wvvv serve — thought, well, the referendum will settle it.— thought, well, the referendum will settle it. then when the eereeerewm— will settle it. then when the referendum -way. referendum went the way they weeerr— weren't expecting, they thought, were—gerl well, actually, when we do get eeewe— well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll_ well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll-it.- well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll it. the brexit, that'll settle it. the eegwmerr— brexit, that'll settle it. the eegwmerr vs— brexit, that'll settle it. the argument is still there. i think it argument is still there. i think r vs— argument is still there. i think r vs rvme— argument is still there. i think r vs rvme ree— argument is still there. i think it is time for another right of eere— it is time for another right of eere reery. — it is time for another right of centre party. why- it is time for another right of centre party. �*vivvy centre party. why is reform of which you are a member not cutting through? if that were the case? oh well, you can't eeevvy— the case? oh well, you can't really complain.— i7 oh well, you can't really complain. we're at 8% in the really complain. we're at 8% in me reus— really complain. we're at 8% in me revvs rew— really complain. we're at 8% in the polls now for— really complain. we're at 8% in the polls now for tiny party. the polls now for a tiny party. yew— the polls now for a tiny party. vew krew— the polls now for a tiny party. you know that's— the polls now for a tiny party. you know that's relatively new. rrer-s— you know that's relatively new. rrer-s rer— you know that's relatively new. that's not bad— you know that's relatively new. that's not bad going actually . that's not bad going actually. are— that's not bad going actually. are v— that's not bad going actually. are v rrvrk— that's not bad going actually. are v mm by— that's not bad going actually. and i think by the time we have keeper— and i think by the time we have proper revveves— and i think by the time we have proper policies in— and i think by the time we have proper policies in place and mer— proper policies in place and me evweys— proper policies in place and that always takes time. you eer-r— that always takes time. you eer-r ee— that always takes time. you don't do that— that always takes time. you don't do that on— that always takes time. you don't do that on the hoof. by me— don't do that on the hoof. by me me— don't do that on the hoof. by rre rvme we— don't do that on the hoof. by the time we have— don't do that on the hoof. by the time we have proper policies in the time we have proper policies vr ereee.— the time we have proper policies vr eveee. wmer— the time we have proper policies in place, which will be well eereee— in place, which will be well eereee rre — in place, which will be well before the next— in place, which will be well before the next election, added to before the next election, added re-reer— before the next election, added re-reer mer— before the next election, added to -fact that unlike - before the next election, added to fact that unlike the to the fact that unlike the rewr— to the fact that unlike the eeem-we - to the fact that unlike the. brexit-we-standing to the fact that unlike the- brexit-we-standing in brexit party, we are standing in every— brexit party, we are standing in every svrgve— brexit party, we are standing in every single seat— brexit party, we are standing in every single seat except weerreer— every single seat except northern ireland. we're standing in northern ireland. we're standing vr-svrgve— northern ireland. we're standing vr-svrgve seer.— northern ireland. we're standing in-single seat. i- northern ireland. we're standing in single seat. i think in every single seat. i think mer— in every single seat. i think me we— in every single seat. i think that we will— in every single seat. i think that we will get— in every single seat. i think that we will get cut through. vwe— that we will get cut through. re re— that we will get cut through. i've no doubt— that we will get cut through. i've no doubt about that. now, v-m— i've no doubt about that. now, v-m rer— i've no doubt about that. now, v-m rev seyvrg— i've no doubt about that. now, i'm not saying we're going to be swerv— i'm not saying we're going to be swerr ereee.— i'm not saying we're going to be swerr ereee. v-m— i'm not saying we're going to be swept apart. i'm not that swept apart. i'm not quite that errvmvsrve. — swept apart. i'm not quite that ervvmvsrve. v— swept apart. i'm not quite that optimistic. i think— swept apart. i'm not quite that optimistic. i think it quite vvkevy— optimistic. i think it quite vvkevy wiv— optimistic. i think it quite likely will hold the balance of rewee— likely will hold the balance of power. -whatever - likely will hold the balance of power. whatever we do, we power. but whatever we do, we wiv— power. but whatever we do, we wvvv ree— power. but whatever we do, we wvvv free e— power. but whatever we do, we will fire a tremendous warning seer— will fire a tremendous warning srer eeess— will fire a tremendous warning shot across the _ will fire a tremendous warning shot across the bows of the
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conservative _ shot across the bows of the conservative party, which is wrer— conservative party, which is we me— conservative party, which is what the brexit— conservative party, which is what the brexit party did in the rweereer— what the brexit party did in the european elections in in 2019 wrer— european elections in in 2019 wrer we— european elections in in 2019 when we swept— european elections in in 2019 when we swept the board just swerv— when we swept the board just sweer me— when we swept the board just swept the board— when we swept the board just swept the board that sent the eressege — swept the board that sent the eressege ger— swept the board that sent the message get brexit done . iiviv”vi; message get brexit done. more rem— message get brexit done. more from arr— message get brexit done. more from ann widdecombe after the break. and i didn't go for the reke— break. and i didn't go for the reke rem— break. and i didn't go for the reke rer. v— break. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never— and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never had any tan at err.— fake tan. i never had any tan at evv. are— fake tan. i never had any tan at evv. are v— fake tan. i never had any tan at all. and i never— fake tan. i never had any tan at all. and i never had eyelash eer-versers — all. and i never had eyelash extensions. i— all. and i never had eyelash extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as— extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it— extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it was possible to keep— as normal as it was possible to keep eryrrvrg— as normal as it was possible to keep eryrrvrg er— as normal as it was possible to keep anything on. strictly come perevrg— keep anything on. strictly come perevrg .—
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people's channel. britain's news . ererrev— . channel i so- . channel so when you were elected to parliament at us, 94% of mps were men. we've come a long way since then . do you think since then. do you think parliament has improved because it looks a bit more like britain? no, i think it's gone me— britain? no, i think it's gone rre ekeer— britain? no, i think it's gone the exact opposite- “7 no, i think it's gone the exact opposite way. i think mer— the exact opposite way. i think that parliament— the exact opposite way. i think that parliament far from vmpeewrg.— that parliament far from
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vmpeewrg. vs— that parliament far from improving, is now a very, very rever— improving, is now a very, very rrvee eere— improving, is now a very, very third rate calibre— improving, is now a very, very third rate calibre indeed. when i third rate calibre indeed. when v reek— third rate calibre indeed. when v veek er— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some of— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some of the big people mer— i look at some of the big people we wee— i look at some of the big people that were there _ i look at some of the big people that were there in— i look at some of the big people that were there in my time, i mean on both— that were there in my time, i mean on both sides of the house, vers— mean on both sides of the house, ver-s reek— mean on both sides of the house, ver-s veek er— mean on both sides of the house, let's look at the— mean on both sides of the house, let's look at the women. let's reek— let's look at the women. let's veek er— let's look at the women. let's veek er me— let's look at the women. let's look at the women. you had rrereree.— look at the women. you had rrereree. yew — look at the women. you had thatcher, you had betty reevreeye— thatcher, you had betty. boothroyd, - shirley boothroyd, you had shirley wvvvvems— boothroyd, you had shirley williams, barbara williams, you had barbara eere— williams, you had barbara eeme—erg- williams, you had barbara. castle. _big figures williams, you had barbara- castle. _big figures , castle. these were big figures, very— castle. these were big figures, weey ewe.— castle. these were big figures, weey epve. very— castle. these were big figures, very able, very capable . now very able, very capable. now yee— very able, very capable. now ye ger— very able, very capable. now ye ger er— very able, very capable. now you've got an awful lot of mvrvskvers.— you've got an awful lot of miniskirts, but— you've got an awful lot of miniskirts, but not much talent . are— miniskirts, but not much talent . are v— miniskirts, but not much talent . are v rrvrk— miniskirts, but not much talent . and i think that— miniskirts, but not much talent . and i think that was the way mer— . and i think that was the way we es— . and i think that was the way we ewe— . and i think that was the way that was due to— . and i think that was the way that was due to the way that reevvemerr— that was due to the way that parliament changed. i'm all for more women in— parliament changed. i'm all for more women in parliament, but rrey— more women in parliament, but wey—meee— more women in parliament, but rrey—rreee er- more women in parliament, but they there on exactly they got to get there on exactly they got to get there on exactly rre seme— they got to get there on exactly the same basis— they got to get there on exactly the same basis as— they got to get there on exactly the same basis as the men. rrey-we— the same basis as the men. rrey-we ger— the same basis as the men. rrey-we ger re— the same basis as the men. they've got to get there by peervrg— they've got to get there by peervrgirre— they've got to get there by beating the competition and beating all the competition and rvesr— beating all the competition and we er— beating all the competition and we er eve— beating all the competition and first of all, the— beating all the competition and first of all, the labour party a epereeree— first of all, the labour party a abandoned that— first of all, the labour party a abandoned that stand and epereeree— abandoned that stand and abandoned merit in favour of all women shortlists.— abandoned merit in favour of all women shortlists. and then the eerseewervwe— women shortlists. and then the conservative party— women shortlists. and then the conservative party with cameron's a—list about brandende merr— cameron's a—list about brandende meevr m— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour of— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour of equal numbers on merit in favour of equal numbers er me— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists .— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists . and in the on the shortlists. and in the ere— on the shortlists. and in the end peepve— on the shortlists. and in the end people were— on the shortlists. and in the end people were getting into reevvemerr— end people were getting into parliament who— end people were getting into parliament who frankly wouldn't reve— parliament who frankly wouldn't rewe ger— parliament who frankly wouldn't rewe ger meee— parliament who frankly wouldn't have got there if— parliament who frankly wouldn't have got there if they'd had to do have got there if they'd had to we wrer— have got there if they'd had to we we me— have got there if they'd had to do what the rest— have got there if they'd had to do what the rest of us had to
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go.— do what the rest of us had to re wmer— do what the rest of us had to do, which was— do what the rest of us had to do, which was compete on a level playing— do, which was compete on a level pveyvrg reve— do, which was compete on a level playing field with— do, which was compete on a level playing field with the men. when yewee— playing field with the men. when ye er mp,— playing field with the men. when ye er err. e— playing field with the men. when you're an mp, a female mp, and yewe— you're an mp, a female mp, and yewe mere-s— you're an mp, a female mp, and your there's only— you're an mp, a female mp, and your there's only 6% in the meme— your there's only 6% in the rewse er— your there's only 6% in the house of commons, as do people. did house of commons, as do people. we yewr— house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues— house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues treat- house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues treat you - did your colleagues treat you those tiny number of women differently? were you subject to no , no. i mean, i went into no, no. i mean, i went into reevvemerr— i mean, i went into parliament knowing that i was an mp. parliament knowing that i was an np. v— parliament knowing that i was an np. v ever-r— parliament knowing that i was an mp. i didn't regard— parliament knowing that i was an mp. i didn't regard myself as a mp.— mp. i didn't regard myself as a np. v— mp. i didn't regard myself as a woman mp. i was— mp. i didn't regard myself as a woman mp. i was an mp who peppered— woman mp. 1 was an mp who repperee re— woman mp. i was an mp who repperee re re— woman mp. i was an mp who happened to be a— woman mp. i was an mp who happened to be a woman. that was no more important— happened to be a woman. that was no more important than the fact mer— no more important than the fact we r— no more important than the fact we r es— no more important than the fact we r er— no more important than the fact that i was an mp— no more important than the fact that i was an mp who happened to be that i was an mp who happened to pee-ere— that i was an mp who happened to pee-ere rer— that i was an mp who happened to be-and fat rather— that i was an mp who happened to be and fat rather than be short and fat rather than revv— be short and fat rather than revv ere— be short and fat rather than tall and -you - be short and fat rather than tall and you know, it was tall and thin. you know, it was iwsr— tall and thin. you know, it was iwsr e— tall and thin. you know, it was iwsv e prysveev— tall and thin. you know, it was just a physical fact of life. rewr— just a physical fact of life. rwr v— just a physical fact of life. rwr v es— just a physical fact of life. but i was an— just a physical fact of life. but i was an mp, i was doing an vers— but i was an mp, i was doing an eres-v— but i was an mp, i was doing an revs-v es— but i was an mp, i was doing an mps i was competing in the mps job. i was competing in the revs— mps job. i was competing in the mps environment— mps job. i was competing in the mps environment and i did all i ree— mps environment and i did all i reelee— mps environment and i did all i melee-me— mps environment and i did all i had.do,.the things- mps environment and i did all i had do, the things that had to do, all the things that me— had to do, all the things that me me— had to do, all the things that the men were— had to do, all the things that the men were doing. and i think mer— the men were doing. and i think that determines— the men were doing. and i think that determines how you're reeeree— that determines how you're treated-went- that determines how you're- treated _wentlnever treated because i went in never ekpeervrg— treated because i went in never ekpeevvrglpe— treated because i went in never expecting be treated any expecting to be treated any evreeerrvy— expecting to be treated any differently men, expecting to be treated any- differently-men, never differently from the men, never rewrg— differently from the men, never rewrg er— differently from the men, never having an issue— differently from the men, never having an issue with the fact mer— having an issue with the fact veer—ree— having an issue with the fact veer—ree rew- having an issue with the fact. that—too few women. that there were too few women. rewr— that there were too few women. rwrleemempee— that there were too few women. but remember vividly shortly that there were too few women. but allnember vividly shortly that there were too few women. but all the ber vividly shortly that there were too few women. but all the blairvidly shortly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes hortly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes got ly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes got in after all the blair babes got in 101 after all the blair babes got in rovlrrem— after all the blair babes got in rovlrrem v— after all the blair babes got in 101-them, i might- after all the blair babes got in 101 them, i might well 101 of them, i might as well reve— 101 of them, i might as well rewe ree— 101 of them, i might as well have had dalmatians, quite have had 101 dalmatians, quite reresrvy.— have had 101 dalmatians, quite reresrvy. vor— have had 101 dalmatians, quite honestly, 101 of— have had 101 dalmatians, quite honestly, 101 of them all came
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in honestly, 101 of them all came vr-are— honestly, 101 of them all came vr-are epewr- honestly, 101 of them all came. in _and about-months in at once. and about six months eree— in at once. and about six months emee-eemer.— in at once. and about six months after-arrived, one- in at once. and about six months after-arrived, one of- in at once. and about six months after arrived, one of them after they arrived, one of them wp— after they arrived, one of them wp re— after they arrived, one of them wp re me— after they arrived, one of them came up to me in— after they arrived, one of them came up to me in a corridor and sre— came up to me in a corridor and sre seve— came up to me in a corridor and sre sever-arre- came up to me in a corridor and she said-anne, isn't- came up to me in a corridor and she said anne, isn't it she said to me, anne, isn't it reeevpve— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how the— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how the men are so rude to horrible how the men are so rude re wse— horrible how the men are so rude re wse are— horrible how the men are so rude re wse are v— horrible how the men are so rude to us? and i said,— horrible how the men are so rude to us? and i said, yes. and vsr-r— to us? and i said, yes. and vsr-r r— to us? and i said, yes. and isn't it horrible— to us? and i said, yes. and isn't it horrible how they're so ewee— isn't it horrible how they're so were re— isn't it horrible how they're so were re eeer— isn't it horrible how they're so rude to each other ? and she rude to each other? and she rear-r— rude to each other? and she hadn't thought— rude to each other? and she hadn't thought of that . she'd hadn't thought of that. she'd iwsr— hadn't thought of that. she'd iwsr-eewgree— hadn't thought of that. she'd just-roughed.in- just been roughed up in the member— just been roughed up in the chamber and— just been roughed up in the chamber and she assumed it was eeese— chamber and she assumed it was peese sre— chamber and she assumed it was peese sre es— chamber and she assumed it was because she was a— chamber and she assumed it was because she was a woman. in reev— because she was a woman. in reevlwes— because she was a woman. in fact,.was because- because she was a woman. in fact, was because was fact, it was because she was useless. right?— fact, it was because she was useless. right? converted to useless. right? you converted to kemer— useless. right? you converted to roman catholicism in 1993? v“/vi;~ir roman catholicism in 1993? yes. mer— roman catholicism in 1993? yes. we we— roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following _ roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following the- roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following the anglican church's decision to allow the ordination of women. yes. why shouldn't a woman be able to be a vicar? it's theological. it's got— a vicar? it's theological. it's ger eemvrg— a vicar? it's theological. it's ger rerrvrg re— a vicar? it's theological. it's got nothing to do— , viiv”7 it's theological. it's got nothing to do with. can a gwe— got nothing to do with. can a nge e— got nothing to do with. can a woman give a good sermon ? i woman give a good sermon? i eeeker— woman give a good sermon? i eeeker v— woman give a good sermon? i eeeker v eewve— woman give a good sermon? i reckon i could give a great . vr-s— reckon i could give a great sermon . it's got- reckon i could give a great sermon . it's got nothing to do sermon. it's got nothing to do wvrr— sermon. it's got nothing to do we kvre— sermon. it's got nothing to do we kvre er— sermon. it's got nothing to do with kind of woman. be a good pesree.— with kind of woman. be a good pesree. v— with kind of woman. be a good pesree. vrrvrk— with kind of woman. be a good pastor. i think women make ekeevverr— pastor. i think women make excellent pastors. it's purely rreevegveev.— excellent pastors. it's purely theological.-can- excellent pastors. it's purely theological. can you have theological. it is. can you have a theological. it is. can you have e-srerevrg— theological. it is. can you have e-srerevrg m- theological. it is. can you have a standing in persona? a woman standing in persona? eersr— a woman standing in persona? erevsrv-pevrr— a woman standing in persona? christi _point of- a woman standing in persona? christi point of the christi at the point of the consecration _ christi at the point of the consecration that is what consecration now that is what erreerwevy— consecration now that is what effectively - about- consecration now that is what effectively about . and but effectively it is about. and but mer— effectively it is about. and but me es— effectively it is about. and but me ree— effectively it is about. and but that was for me— effectively it is about. and but that was for me that was the vesr— that was for me that was the vesr sreew— that was for me that was the last straw in— that was for me that was the last straw in a— that was for me that was the last straw in a very large pwreie— last straw in a very large
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bundle. and— last straw in a very large bundle. and i— last straw in a very large bundle. and i mean, i was eveeeey— bundle. and i mean, i was eveeeey v— bundle. and i mean, i was already i had— bundle. and i mean, i was already i had one foot over the wree— already i had one foot over the rvpee eveeeey— already i had one foot over the tiber already and— already i had one foot over the tiber already and that debate on women's ordination, which wasn't epewr— women's ordination, which wasn't eeewr srewve— women's ordination, which wasn't about should this— women's ordination, which wasn't about should this happen , it was about should this happen, it was epewr— about should this happen, it was eeewr r— about should this happen, it was eeewr r we— about should this happen, it was about if we don't— about should this happen, it was about if we don't do this, we wemr— about if we don't do this, we were eppeev— about if we don't do this, we were eppeev re— about if we don't do this, we won't appeal to the world, you krew.— won't appeal to the world, you know, because _ won't appeal to the world, you know, because the— won't appeal to the world, you know, because the world has mewee— know, because the world has moved on. and— know, because the world has moved on. and i— know, because the world has moved on. and i thought, hang on, moved on. and i thought, hang rerg— moved on. and i thought, hang rerg — moved on. and i thought, hang rerg v— moved on. and i thought, hang on, hang on. i don't want a erweer— on, hang on. i don't want a erweer mer— on, hang on. i don't want a church that follows the world. i wem— church that follows the world. i werr e— church that follows the world. i want a church— church that follows the world. i want a church that— church that follows the world. i want a church that leads the were.— want a church that leads the were. are— want a church that leads the world. and but— want a church that leads the world. and but as i say, it was a world. and but as i say, it was e very— world. and but as i say, it was every vv— world. and but as i say, it was every r es— world. and but as i say, it was a very it was the— world. and but as i say, it was a very it was the last straw in a very it was the last straw in every— a very it was the last straw in every verge— a very it was the last straw in a very large bundle. i would reve— a very large bundle. i would rewe gere— a very large bundle. i would rewe gere re— a very large bundle. i would have gone to the— a very large bundle. i would have gone to the catholic eemer.— have gone to the catholic church. supposing we'd never eeremee— church. supposing we'd never ordained women— church. supposing we'd never ordained women in the anglican eemer.— ordained women in the anglican erweer. v— ordained women in the anglican church, i would— ordained women in the anglican church, i would have gone to the eemere— church, i would have gone to the catholic church _ church, i would have gone to the catholic church within about me— catholic church within about me yeees— catholic church within about me yeees er— catholic church within about five years of when i actually eve— five years of when i actually eve ge— five years of when i actually eve ge ver— five years of when i actually eve ge er s— five years of when i actually eve ge er s ge— five years of when i actually did go let s go a— five years of when i actually did go let s go a bit lighter very— did go let s go a bit lighter weey egre— did go let s go a bit lighter now very light into her in 2018. veere— now very light into her in 2018. vewre m— now very light into her in 2018. vewre vr ere— now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest— now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest tv- now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest tv show on the planet. you're in strictly come dancing. you're in 2018, zero.— come dancing. you're in 2018, zero. eers— come dancing. you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was— come dancing. you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was big— v i “3 you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was big brother. you may— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you mey pe— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you mey pe rrvrkvrg— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you may be thinking of. thank you ere— may be thinking of. thank you ere ree— may be thinking of. thank you and for correcting _ may be thinking of. thank you and for correcting my reality yeee— and for correcting my reality year television—
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and for correcting my reality year television shows in 2010. veer— year television shows in 2010. veer .— year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered— year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered with- year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered with anton de yeah. partnered with anton de btec the sequins , the fake tan . btec the sequins, the fake tan. never had it, never had fake tank— never had it, never had fake tan, never had— never had it, never had fake tan, never had hairpieces , never tan, never had hairpieces, never ree— tan, never had hairpieces, never ree eyevesr— tan, never had hairpieces, never had eyelash extensions . i said, had eyelash extensions. i said, veek.— had eyelash extensions. i said, veek. ere— had eyelash extensions. i said, veek. ere wey— had eyelash extensions. i said, look, the way that— had eyelash extensions. i said, look, the way that i carry on, if look, the way that i carry on, r v— look, the way that i carry on, r v reve— look, the way that i carry on, r v rewe e— look, the way that i carry on, if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up if i have a hairpiece, it'll end wp er— if i have a hairpiece, it'll end wp er ere— if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up on the floor. _ if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up on the floor. because, you krew.— up on the floor. because, you krew. ere — up on the floor. because, you krew. ere wey— up on the floor. because, you know, the way that anton was ereewvrg — know, the way that anton was ereewvrg me— know, the way that anton was throwing me about, i said, don't be eer.— throwing me about, i said, don't be eer. revv— throwing me about, i said, don't be daft. it'll just— throwing me about, i said, don't be daft. it'll just end up on ere— be daft. it'll just end up on ere freer.— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and i— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and i didn't go for me— the floor. and i didn't go for me reke— the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. _ the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i— the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never had any rer— the fake tan. i never had any rer er— the fake tan. i never had any rer er-are— the fake tan. i never had any rer er-are v— the fake tan. i never had any tan at and i never had tan at all. and i never had eyevesr—v- tan at all. and i never had. eyevesr—v-re eyelash extensions. i tried to keep— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep vv— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep r es— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it was pessvpve— keep it as normal as it was pessvpve re— keep it as normal as it was possible to keep- keep it as normal as it was possible to keep anything on. servervy— possible to keep anything on. strictly come— possible to keep anything on. strictly come dancing. are you in strictly come dancing. are you vr-wvrr— strictly come dancing. are you in _with anton— strictly come dancing. are you in with anton bexhill? in touch with anton de bexhill? oh, in touch with anton de bexhill? on-p._ in touch with anton de bexhill? om-vr eewer- in touch with anton de bexhill? oh,-in touch with- oh, yes. i'm in touch with amer. — oh, yes. i'm in touch with amer. very— oh, yes. i'm in touch with anton. very occasionally. in eewer— anton. very occasionally. in rewer wrer— anton. very occasionally. in touch with craig? yeah o“ touch with craig? yeah oh, vrreresrvrg. — touch with craig? yeah oh, interesting. question . interesting. final question. personal one. you have never married . you've never had any married. you've never had any children . any regrets? none children. any regrets? none whatsoever. ever. really? none wrerseewee— whatsoever. ever. really? none wrerseewee .— whatsoever. ever. really? none whatsoever . oh,— whatsoever. ever. really? none whatsoever . oh, i— ever. really? none whatsoever . oh, i know it's very whatsoever. oh, i know it's very evrvewvr— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very evrvewvr re— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very difficult to get— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very difficult to get people to understand _ difficult to get people to understand this, but the fact eree— understand this, but the fact erer v— understand this, but the fact that i didn't— understand this, but the fact that i didn't marry was a meme— that i didn't marry was a mvxrwee er— that i didn't marry was a mixture of choice and chance. it was chance because mr right
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ever-r— was chance because mr right ever-r pepper— was chance because mr right didn't happen to— was chance because mr right didn't happen to come along. it erevee— didn't happen to come along. it was choice because it was never a was choice because it was never e peg— was choice because it was never e pvg erewgr— was choice because it was never a big enough priority to go out veekvrg— a big enough priority to go out veekvrg ree— a big enough priority to go out looking for him. _ a big enough priority to go out looking for him. and, you know, i'm looking for him. and, you know, v-m -eereere. — looking for him. and, you know, i'm-content. if— looking for him. and, you know, i'm _content. if he- looking for him. and, you know, i'm content. if he had i'm quite content. if he had eeme-peereps- i'm quite content. if he had come-perhaps would come along, perhaps things would reve— come along, perhaps things would eeke—rm- have been different. but i'm eemerr— have been different. but i'm content either— have been different. but i'm content either way. i'm widdicombe. you literally you are of a kind. and it has are one of a kind. and it has been pleasure to chat with been a pleasure to chat with you.thank been a pleasure to chat with you. thank you. coming up, conservative mp shailesh vara . conservative mp shailesh vara. any of your viewers watching ? if any of your viewers watching? if yewee— any of your viewers watching? if ye eskee— any of your viewers watching? if you're asked for— any of your viewers watching? if you're asked for your money, nge— you're asked for your money, we yewe— you're asked for your money, we yewe merey— you're asked for your money, give your money over. unless you got give your money over. unless you gee e— give your money over. unless you gee e meek— give your money over. unless you got a black belt— give your money over. unless you got a black belt in— give your money over. unless you got a black belt in taekwondo . got a black belt in taekwondo. are— got a black belt in taekwondo. are eer— got a black belt in taekwondo. and even then—
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shiela chavara, elected as a conservative— shiela chavara, elected as a conservative mp— shiela chavara, elected as a conservative mp in 2005, your remvvy— conservative mp in 2005, your remvvy eeme— conservative mp in 2005, your family came here— conservative mp in 2005, your family came here in the 60s from egeree. — family came here in the 60s from wgeree. y..— family came here in the 60s from uganda. you were— family came here in the 60s from uganda. you were four- family came here in the 60s from uganda. v/vi- family came here in the 60s from uganda. v/viv- viv.v2 uganda. you were four years old. you couldn't speak a word of english. how did you cope? well
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you know, young children can be quite resilient and we were fortunate as a family that my father had come to the uk nine months beforehand . so he'd got months beforehand. so he'd got a job and months beforehand. so he'd got a pep ere ree— months beforehand. so he'd got a pep ere re-e ger— months beforehand. so he'd got a job and he'd got rented- ”vi;2 so he'd got a job and he'd got rented some accommodation— job and he'd got rented some accommodation in. so he actually mer— accommodation in. so he actually mer ws— accommodation in. so he actually mer ws er— accommodation in. so he actually mer ws er ere— accommodation in. so he actually met us at the airport. you know, he met us at the airport. you know, re sere— met us at the airport. you know, re serr sme— met us at the airport. you know, he sent some money over for us to he sent some money over for us re pwy— he sent some money over for us re pwy reekers. — he sent some money over for us to buy tickets. so— he sent some money over for us to buy tickets. so we came over. he mer— to buy tickets. so we came over. he mer ws— to buy tickets. so we came over. he mer ws er— to buy tickets. so we came over. he met us at the— to buy tickets. so we came over. he met us at the airport and we eeewevvy— he met us at the airport and we eeewevvy were— he met us at the airport and we actually went back— he met us at the airport and we actually went back to a home at ere— actually went back to a home at ere se— actually went back to a home at ere se ereee— actually went back to a home at and so there was— actually went back to a home at and so there was that stability of and so there was that stability er ere— and so there was that stability of the warmth _ and so there was that stability of the warmth and comfort of a reme.— of the warmth and comfort of a home,-course is- of the warmth and comfort of a home,-course is a- of the warmth and comfort of a home, course is a lot home, which of course is a lot evrreeerr— home, which of course is a lot evrreeerr re — home, which of course is a lot different to happens different to what happens reweeeys— different to what happens. nowadays—course different to what happens- nowadays_course , some nowadays because of course, some peepve— nowadays because of course, some peepve-er— nowadays because of course, some people, of immigration , people, by way of immigration, weev— people, by way of immigration, wvvv ewse— people, by way of immigration, will just come— people, by way of immigration, will just come to— people, by way of immigration, will just come to the country ere— will just come to the country ere mer— will just come to the country and then expect— will just come to the country and then expect the state to peewee— and then expect the state to peewee-wvrr- and then expect the state to provide with accommodation, provide them with accommodation, wevreee— provide them with accommodation, welfare benefits— provide them with accommodation, welfare benefits and welfare benefits for food and eweeyrrvrg— welfare benefits for food and eweeyrrvrg-vr- welfare benefits for food and everything it was everything else. but it was eeerevrvy— everything else. but it was eeerevrvy very— everything else. but it was certainly very different in mese— certainly very different in erese- — certainly very different in those-. what- certainly very different in those . �*vivv“iv certainly very different in. those-. what was the certainly very different in- those-. what was the debate those days. what was the debate as toxic as it feels now? was it more toxic ? maybe you don't more toxic? maybe you don't think it's toxic at all. i think the debate in parliament was not so toxic, but i think the prejudice on the ground was very raw and very real. for example,
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i raw and very real. for example, v eememeep— raw and very real. for example, v eememeep es— raw and very real. for example, v eememeep es e— raw and very real. for example, i remember as a child,- evi;”g ”ce. for example, i remember as a child, you know , i remember as a child, you know . vou— i remember as a child, you know . yew wewve— i remember as a child, you know , you would walk— i remember as a child, you know , you would walk past places for pee— , you would walk past places for pee ere— , you would walk past places for bed and breakfast— , you would walk past places for bed and breakfast or restaurants or bed and breakfast or restaurants ee pwps— bed and breakfast or restaurants ee pwps ere— bed and breakfast or restaurants or pubs and there— bed and breakfast or restaurants or pubs and there would be signs seyvrg— or pubs and there would be signs seyvrg re— or pubs and there would be signs saying no minorities . and saying no minorities. and renewe— saying no minorities. and believe me,— saying no minorities. and believe me, i'm using polite reems— believe me, i'm using polite reems wrer— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i say— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i say no. minorities ere— terms when i say no. minorities rre vergwege— terms when i say no. minorities rre vergwege vs— terms when i say no. minorities the language is pretty crude . the language is pretty crude. are— the language is pretty crude. are v— the language is pretty crude. and i remember— the language is pretty crude. and i remember with my mother gwewvrg— and i remember with my mother gwewvrg m— and i remember with my mother gwewvrg m e— and i remember with my mother queuing in a grocery store and the queuing in a grocery store and me peepve— queuing in a grocery store and the people before— queuing in a grocery store and the people before us were served and the people before us were served ere ereee— the people before us were served and there were— the people before us were served and there were some white people perme— and there were some white people pervre ws— and there were some white people pervre ws ere— and there were some white people behind us and the— and there were some white people behind us and the storekeeper ewse— behind us and the storekeeper iwsv vgreeee— behind us and the storekeeper iwsv vgreeee ws— behind us and the storekeeper just ignored us and served them eeese.— just ignored us and served them rvesr. are— just ignored us and served them first. and then— just ignored us and served them first. and then came back to us. are— first. and then came back to us. me yew— first. and then came back to us. and you accepted— first. and then came back to us. and you accepted this . you know, and you accepted this. you know, eres— and you accepted this. you know, rrvs es— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal .— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal . and i remember this was normal. and i remember as this was normal. and i remember es e ewe— this was normal. and i remember es e ewe seem.— this was normal. and i remember as a cub scout, eight year old wrer— as a cub scout, eight year old we my— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little cap— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little cap and my goggles— with my little cap and my geggves ere— with my little cap and my goggles and my neckerchief and wrerewee— goggles and my neckerchief and whatever were— goggles and my neckerchief and whatever were proudly going eee— whatever were proudly going around knocking on doors to do a repe— around knocking on doors to do a eere e— around knocking on doors to do a eere e repe— around knocking on doors to do a baba a baba job.— around knocking on doors to do a baba a baba job. and for your wre— baba a baba job. and for your viewers who don't— baba a baba job. and for your viewers who don't know what that is, viewers who don't know what that vs. v— viewers who don't know what that vs. v meer— viewers who don't know what that vs. v eree— viewers who don't know what that is, i mean, that was— viewers who don't know what that is, i mean, that was when you svmpvy— is, i mean, that was when you svmpvy kreek— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on a— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on a door and say, v— simply knock on a door and say, v ee— simply knock on a door and say, can i do something— simply knock on a door and say, can i do something a small job? are— can i do something a small job? are mey-e— can i do something a small job? are mey-e gwe— can i do something a small job? and they'd give you a a and they'd give you a bob, a srvvvvrg— and they'd give you a bob, a srvvvvrg m— and they'd give you a bob, a shilling in old— and they'd give you a bob, a shilling in old money and all of eree— shilling in old money and all of me merey— shilling in old money and all of that money then— shilling in old money and all of that money then went to charity.
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are— that money then went to charity. arelv— that money then went to charity. arelv es— that money then went to charity. and-i was this— that money then went to charity. and i was this happy eight and so i was this happy eight yeee— and so i was this happy eight yee-eeewe- and so i was this happy eight year-about to- and so i was this happy eight year about to press a year old boy about to press a eeeepevv— year old boy about to press a eeeepevv .— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and on— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and on of it, doorbell. and on top of it, ereee— doorbell. and on top of it, ereee-eres— doorbell. and on top of it, there .this little - doorbell. and on top of it, there this little plaque and there was this little plaque and it there was this little plaque and vr-ere— there was this little plaque and vr-ere v-m— there was this little plaque and it-and i'm not- there was this little plaque and it and i'm not going it said, no, and i'm not going to it said, no, and i'm not going re-rre— it said, no, and i'm not going re-rre-pwr- it said, no, and i'm not going to-the-but it- it said, no, and i'm not going to .the-but it was. to use the words, but it was a rewe— to use the words, but it was a few eeree— to use the words, but it was a four letter word— to use the words, but it was a four letter word which begins wrer— four letter word which begins wrer w— four letter word which begins with w-third- four letter word which begins with w third and fourth with w and the third and fourth eerers— with w and the third and fourth verrees ee— with w and the third and fourth letters are gs— with w and the third and fourth letters are gs now, i was eight yeees— letters are gs now, i was eight yeees eve.— letters are gs now, i was eight yeees eve. v— letters are gs now, i was eight years old. i didn't— letters are gs now, i was eight years old. i didn't know what eree— years old. i didn't know what me were— years old. i didn't know what that word meant,— years old. i didn't know what that word meant, but but i had a gut that word meant, but but i had a gwr vrsrvree— that word meant, but but i had a gut instinct that— that word meant, but but i had a gut instinct that that it eereeeee — gut instinct that that it referred to _ gut instinct that that it referred to me so that was one eeeepevv— referred to me so that was one doorbell that _ referred to me so that was one doorbell that i— referred to me so that was one doorbell that i gave a miss to. ves— doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable— doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable change- doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable change that we've undergone in this country free, not least that rishi sunak is as our prime minister. he she is as our prime minister. he she is not white. he is a hindu. it's barely remarked on really. it's barely remarked on really. it's such a journey, isn't it? it's such a journey, isn't it? it is such a journey in my lifetime. and remember , gloria, lifetime. and remember, gloria, i lifetime. and remember, gloria, vwes— lifetime. and remember, gloria, vwes peer— lifetime. and remember, gloria, vwes peer pr— lifetime. and remember, gloria, i was born in uganda- . �*"vi;. and remember, gloria, i was born in uganda at a time wrer— i was born in uganda at a time wrer egeree— i was born in uganda at a time when uganda was— i was born in uganda at a time when uganda was part of the persp— when uganda was part of the british empire— when uganda was part of the british empire .— when uganda was part of the british empire . and you know, we british empire. and you know, we rewe—
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british empire. and you know, we now have rishi _ british empire. and you know, we now have rishi sunak enoch as perme— now have rishi sunak enoch as prime minister— now have rishi sunak enoch as prime minister and in my own rewrg— prime minister and in my own case, having been— prime minister and in my own case, having been born in a eemere— case, having been born in a eewrrey. peer— case, having been born in a eewrrey. peer er— case, having been born in a country, part of the empire wreee— country, part of the empire wreee v— country, part of the empire wreee v es— country, part of the empire where i was in— country, part of the empire where i was in the cabinet last yeee— where i was in the cabinet last year .— where i was in the cabinet last yeee . ere— where i was in the cabinet last yeee . ere eree— where i was in the cabinet last year , and that journey , i do year, and that journey, i do remember when- year, and that journey, i do remember when i was in the eepvrer— remember when i was in the eepvrer er— remember when i was in the cabinet at the— remember when i was in the cabinet at the cabinet table rrvrkvrg— cabinet at the cabinet table thinking that,— cabinet at the cabinet table thinking that, you know , born in thinking that, you know, born in an thinking that, you know, born in er empre— thinking that, you know, born in an empire country— thinking that, you know, born in an empire country and yet svrrvrg— an empire country and yet sitting around— an empire country and yet sitting around that table of vrrvweree— sitting around that table of influence from _ sitting around that table of influence from which the empire influence from which the empire vr ere— influence from which the empire vr ere pesr— influence from which the empire m we pesr ree— influence from which the empire in the past had been run, pespeeppy— in the past had been run, basically, and— in the past had been run, basically, and when you did join the basically, and when you did join me eepvrer— basically, and when you did join the cabinet cabinet members, peeee— the cabinet cabinet members, become members of the privy eemere.— become members of the privy eewrevv. eve— become members of the privy council, all you— become members of the privy council, all you the last it peser— council, all you the last it peser re— council, all you the last it peeser re pe— council, all you the last it person to be made a member of the person to be made a member of pre perky— person to be made a member of the privy council— person to be made a member of the privy council by the now eere— the privy council by the now we eweer — the privy council by the now late queen. absolutely treasured memem — late queen. absolutely treasured memem v— late queen. absolutely treasured memem vwes— late queen. absolutely treasured moment. i was the— late queen. absolutely treasured moment. i was the last person to be moment. i was the last person to pe peser— moment. i was the last person to pe peser swem— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in.— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in. i— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in. i think ereee— be person sworn in. i think ereee es— be person sworn in. i think there was one— be person sworn in. i think there was one virtual all sweeevrg— there was one virtual all sweeevrg pr— there was one virtual all swearing in after me, but i was the swearing in after me, but i was pre eesr— swearing in after me, but i was the last personal— swearing in after me, but i was the last personal swearing in ere— the last personal swearing in ere ve— the last personal swearing in ere r es— the last personal swearing in ere r e— the last personal swearing in and it was a lovely moment. i'd peer— and it was a lovely moment. i'd peer eppevrree— and it was a lovely moment. i'd been appointed to— and it was a lovely moment. i'd been appointed to the cabinet the been appointed to the cabinet ere eey— been appointed to the cabinet the day before— been appointed to the cabinet the day before and the first
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merg— the day before and the first ervrg v— the day before and the first rrvrg v eve— the day before and the first thing i did was— the day before and the first thing i did was to go to weerreer— thing i did was to go to northern ireland to make my peesee reve— northern ireland to make my presence felt there. got back, eeker— presence felt there. got back, eeker re— presence felt there. got back, taken to windsor— presence felt there. got back, taken to windsor castle and then to taken to windsor castle and then re ge— taken to windsor castle and then re ge pr— taken to windsor castle and then re ge vr eree— taken to windsor castle and then to go in that wonderful room and to go in that wonderful room and re sweee— to go in that wonderful room and to swear allegiance— to go in that wonderful room and to swear allegiance to her veep-ery— to swear allegiance to her veep-esry me— to swear allegiance to her majesty me. and, you know , kneel majesty me. and, you know, kneel eewm— majesty me. and, you know, kneel eewr. are— majesty me. and, you know, kneel eewr. me me— majesty me. and, you know, kneel down. and the privy— majesty me. and, you know, kneel down. and the privy council of course, is a personal oath to pee— course, is a personal oath to pee weiesry— course, is a personal oath to her majesty and— course, is a personal oath to her majesty and to have done eree— her majesty and to have done me ere— her majesty and to have done me ere v— her majesty and to have done that and i swore— her majesty and to have done that and i swore on the bhagavad ere— that and i swore on the bhagavad ere egevr— that and i swore on the bhagavad ere egevr rew— that and i swore on the bhagavad gita again how the— that and i swore on the bhagavad gita again how the world, how the gita again how the world, how ere ek— gita again how the world, how ere wk res— gita again how the world, how the uk has changed that i took the uk has changed that i took me eerr— the uk has changed that i took me eerr er— the uk has changed that i took me eerr er my— the uk has changed that i took the oath on my own by equivalent the oath on my own by equivalent ere pregewee— the oath on my own by equivalent the bhagavad gita,— the oath on my own by equivalent the bhagavad gita, which is the peek— the bhagavad gita, which is the peek ree— the bhagavad gita, which is the book for hindus,— the bhagavad gita, which is the book for hindus, which i got to keep— book for hindus, which i got to keep afterwards.— book for hindus, which i got to keep afterwards. and after i'd peer— keep afterwards. and after i'd been sworn to— keep afterwards. and after i'd been sworn to the privy council. rrer — been sworn to the privy council. rrer v— been sworn to the privy council. rrer v reek— been sworn to the privy council. then i took another oath to eevveer— then i took another oath to eevveee ere— then i took another oath to collect the seals- then i took another oath to collect the seals of office for weerreer — collect the seals of office for northern ireland.— collect the seals of office for northern ireland. but yes, you krew.— northern ireland. but yes, you krew. geeer— northern ireland. but yes, you know, great privilege that in her know, great privilege that in per verg— know, great privilege that in per verg eevgr— know, great privilege that in her long reign i— know, great privilege that in her long reign i was the last re— her long reign i was the last re pe— her long reign i was the last one to be personally sworn to me— one to be personally sworn to pre perky— one to be personally sworn to the privy council. _ one to be personally sworn to the privy council. so it's a remarkable— the privy council. so it's a remarkable journey that you've pee.— remarkable journey that you've ree. — remarkable journey that you've re re— remarkable journey that you've re re we— remarkable journey that you've had. it was third— remarkable journey that you've had. it was third time- remarkable journey that you've had. . ”2 . ...vi.
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you you stood in 2—2 unwinnable seats . second one was marginal, seats. second one was marginal, but seats. second one was marginal, pwr ere— seats. second one was marginal, pm me erme— seats. second one was marginal, but the time wasn't— second one was marginal, but the time wasn't right for me— but the time wasn't right for pre reeves— but the time wasn't right for the tories to _ but the time wasn't right for the tories to win— but the time wasn't right for the tories to win seats. so ereee— the tories to win seats. so were erme— the tories to win seats. so third time lucky- the tories to win seats. so third time lucky when you get pree— third time lucky when you get into parliament,— third time lucky when you get into parliament, did you epeeveree— into parliament, did you experience any prejudice on on the experience any prejudice on on ere wey— experience any prejudice on on ere wey ee— experience any prejudice on on the way to getting a safe seat or subsequently— the way to getting a safe seat or subsequently it wasn't the eesvesr— or subsequently it wasn't the eesvesr er— or subsequently it wasn't the easiest of journeys . i remember easiest of journeys. i remember wrer— easiest of journeys. i remember wrer v— easiest of journeys. i remember wrer v es— easiest of journeys. i remember when r reyvrg— easiest of journeys. i remember when i was trying to get into me— when i was trying to get into the candidates— when i was trying to get into the candidates list in the 90s, the candidates list in the 90s, the conservative _ the candidates list in the 90s, the conservative party candidates— the conservative party candidates list, and i was told by candidates list, and i was told py ere— candidates list, and i was told py rre seree— candidates list, and i was told by the senior agent at the time . um,— by the senior agent at the time . eree— by the senior agent at the time . erer ere— by the senior agent at the time , um, that the best— by the senior agent at the time , um, that the best that i could repe— , um, that the best that i could repe ree— , um, that the best that i could hope for would _ , um, that the best that i could hope for would be— , um, that the best that i could hope for would be to win back a vepewe— hope for would be to win back a labour marginal— hope for would be to win back a labour marginal seat where for yewe— labour marginal seat where for yewe ewr— labour marginal seat where for yewe kvre— labour marginal seat where for your own kind would be expected to, your own kind would be expected re re— your own kind would be expected re re were— your own kind would be expected re re were ree— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me .— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me . how did that to, to vote for me. how did that meke— to, to vote for me. how did that meke yew— to, to vote for me. how did that meke yew reev— to, to vote for me. how did that make you feel ?_ to, to vote for me. how did that make you feel ? um, well, it make you feel? um, well, it wesrr— make you feel? um, well, it wesrr wrer— make you feel? um, well, it wasn't what i— make you feel? um, well, it wasn't what i wanted to hear , wasn't what i wanted to hear, pwr— wasn't what i wanted to hear, pwr v— wasn't what i wanted to hear, pwr v es— wasn't what i wanted to hear, but i was mindful given the epeee— but i was mindful given the experience and— but i was mindful given the experience and prejudice i'd expeevereee— experience and prejudice i'd experienced in— experience and prejudice i'd experienced in the past, i was rer— experienced in the past, i was me eeremee— experienced in the past, i was not deterred because my basis very— not deterred because my basis weey svmpve— not deterred because my basis weey svmpve .— not deterred because my basis was very simple . one day, was very simple. one day, semepeey— was very simple. one day, somebody who— was very simple. one day, somebody who is not white is going—
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somebody who is not white is gevrg re— somebody who is not white is gevrg re meke— somebody who is not white is going to make it— somebody who is not white is going to make it as a conservative- going to make it as a conservative mp, so why srewver-r— conservative mp, so why shouldn't it— conservative mp, so why shouldn't it be me? and that's wrer— shouldn't it be me? and that's wrer kepr— shouldn't it be me? and that's wrer kepr me— shouldn't it be me? and that's what kept me going. and i was mvrerwv— what kept me going. and i was mindful that, _ what kept me going. and i was mindful that, you— what kept me going. and i was mindful that, you know, the vast meieevry— mindful that, you know, the vast meieevry er— mindful that, you know, the vast meieevry er rre — mindful that, you know, the vast majority of the public are good, eeeerr— majority of the public are good, eeeerr .— majority of the public are good, decent , honest— majority of the public are good, decent , honest people majority of the public are good, decent, honest people and majority of the public are good, decent , honest people and not decent, honest people and not eeeyere— decent, honest people and not everyone was going to judge me on everyone was going to judge me er my— everyone was going to judge me er my eeewve— everyone was going to judge me on my colour. so— everyone was going to judge me on my colour. so having been reve— on my colour. so having been reve eree— on my colour. so having been reve rrer .— on my colour. so having been reve rrer . v— on my colour. so having been told that , i then— on my colour. so having been told that , i then said, fine , if told that, i then said, fine, if epee-s— told that, i then said, fine, if prep-s wrer— told that, i then said, fine, if that's what is— told that, i then said, fine, if that's what is going to be, i were— that's what is going to be, i we serve— that's what is going to be, i will still fight— that's what is going to be, i will still fight my, my, my perrves— will still fight my, my, my peepves .— will still fight my, my, my battles . in— will still fight my, my, my battles . in 1997, my no hoper. i battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i sreee— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i sreee egevrsr— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i stood against clare— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i stood against clare short in emee— stood against clare short in ery— stood against clare short in inner city birmingham. i wasn't inner city birmingham. iwasn't going— inner city birmingham. iwasn't gevrg re— inner city birmingham. iwasn't gevrg re ger— inner city birmingham. i wasn't going to get anything. i was ewse— going to get anything. i was iwsv pvekvrg— going to get anything. i was iwsv pvekvrg wp— going to get anything. i was just picking up battle wounds. prer— just picking up battle wounds. ppm 2001,— just picking up battle wounds. rrer zoov. v— just picking up battle wounds. then 2001, i lost— just picking up battle wounds. then 2001, i lost by about 850 eres— then 2001, i lost by about 850 weesr eesr.— then 2001, i lost by about 850 votes. gosh, that— then 2001, i lost by about 850 votes. gosh, that would have peer— votes. gosh, that would have peer e— votes. gosh, that would have been a painful— votes. gosh, that would have been a painful night. the labour eereveere— been a painful night. the labour candidate labour— been a painful night. the labour candidate labour mp, said. veerveevvy— candidate labour mp, said. ironically used— candidate labour mp, said. ironically used the race card wrer— ironically used the race card wrer eper— ironically used the race card when then he— ironically used the race card when then he said because it was a when then he said because it was e spre— when then he said because it was e eere wreee— when then he said because it was a 95% white constituency , 5% a 95% white constituency, 5% rer—wrvre— a 95% white constituency, 5% non—white and _ a 95% white constituency, 5% non—white and the majority of rrem — non—white and the majority of rrem wee— non—white and the majority of them were bangladeshi muslims and them were bangladeshi muslims ere re— them were bangladeshi muslims ere re es— them were bangladeshi muslims and he was stupid— them were bangladeshi muslims and he was stupid enough to say pwpvvevy— and he was stupid enough to say pwpvvevy prer— and he was stupid enough to say pwpvvevy prev yew— and he was stupid enough to say publicly that you know, the reeves— publicly that you know, the reeves ree— publicly that you know, the tories had picked the wrong type of tories had picked the wrong type er asver— tories had picked the wrong type er asver .— tories had picked the wrong type er asver . are— tories had picked the wrong type of asian . and what he meant was of asian. and what he meant was prer— of asian. and what he meant was me v— of asian. and what he meant was me v es— of asian. and what he meant was
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me v e— of asian. and what he meant was that i was a ugandan born hindu . weeeesr ere— that i was a ugandan born hindu , whereas the asian— that i was a ugandan born hindu , whereas the asian population in northampton— , whereas the asian population in northampton south were pevmeevvy— in northampton south were primarily bangladeshi muslims, so primarily bangladeshi muslims, se mey— primarily bangladeshi muslims, so they wouldn't— primarily bangladeshi muslims, so they wouldn't vote for me. rweeyere— so they wouldn't vote for me. everyone condemned him, all the meee— everyone condemned him, all the meeve. epeer— everyone condemned him, all the media, apart from _ everyone condemned him, all the media, apart from the labour veeeeesrvp— media, apart from the labour veeeeesrvp .— media, apart from the labour leadership , tony— media, apart from the labour leadership , tony blair and leadership, tony blair and sewer— leadership, tony blair and gordon brown— leadership, tony blair and gordon brown and peter mandelson sreyee— gordon brown and peter mandelson sreyee severe— gordon brown and peter mandelson sreyee svverr er— gordon brown and peter mandelson stayed silent on it.— gordon brown and peter mandelson stayed silent on it. but 2005, mre— stayed silent on it. but 2005, ere— stayed silent on it. but 2005, ere pre— stayed silent on it. but 2005, nine and 9% white constituency , nine and 9% white constituency, vewevy— nine and 9% white constituency, vewevy seer. — nine and 9% white constituency, lovely seat. it's— nine and 9% white constituency, lovely seat. it's been a great pevwvvege— lovely seat. it's been a great pevwvvege re— lovely seat. it's been a great privilege to have— lovely seat. it's been a great privilege to have been their mp epeeree— privilege to have been their mp elected 2005,— privilege to have been their mp elected 2005, subsequently ee—eveeree— elected 2005, subsequently re—elected four— elected 2005, subsequently re—elected four times. but the seeey— re—elected four times. but the sreey ereee— re—elected four times. but the sveey ereee vs.— re—elected four times. but the story there is, of— re—elected four times. but the story there is, of course, rewvrg— story there is, of course, having been— story there is, of course, having been told in the late gei— having been told in the late pes. ere— having been told in the late 90s, the best— having been told in the late 90s, the best i'm going to be epee— 90s, the best i'm going to be epve re— 90s, the best i'm going to be epve re ee— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is win— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is win a seat where yewe— able to do is win a seat where yewe ew— able to do is win a seat where yewe kvre— able to do is win a seat where your own kind are— able to do is win a seat where your own kind are going to vote for your own kind are going to vote ree yew. — your own kind are going to vote ree yew. prer— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to be— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to be in 2005 seveeree— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for this— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for this wonderful seat in cambridgeshire_ selected for this wonderful seat in cambridgeshire just shows wrer— in cambridgeshire just shows we e— in cambridgeshire just shows what a fantastic— in cambridgeshire just shows what a fantastic country we are ere— what a fantastic country we are ere rew— what a fantastic country we are ere rew ree— what a fantastic country we are and how far we _ what a fantastic country we are and how far we are moving and rewe— and how far we are moving and rewe mewee— and how far we are moving and rewe mewee pr— and how far we are moving and have moved in just a few years . have moved in just a few years. so have moved in just a few years. se er— have moved in just a few years. so an interesting— have moved in just a few years. so an interesting journey , but so an interesting journey, but but so an interesting journey, but pwr pr— so an interesting journey, but but it worked— so an interesting journey, but but it worked out well in the ere. — but it worked out well in the ere. are— but it worked out well in the end. and did— but it worked out well in the end. and did you- but it worked out well in the end. “2 2 2 but it worked out well in the- end. and did you always know you were a conservative? do you ever
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think about maybe, maybe i'm laboun think about maybe, maybe i'm labour, you know , look, to be labour, you know, look, to be perfectly honest, people would say, well, you know, which party is minority? people say which is a minority? people say which party— is a minority? people say which perry vs— is a minority? people say which perry vs meee— .;e 7 people say which party is more favourable for mvreevrves— party is more favourable for mvreevrves .— party is more favourable for minorities . and— party is more favourable for minorities . and the truth is, minorities. and the truth is, epeere.— minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when _ minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when i— minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when i started on this iewerey— gloria, when i started on this iewerey .— gloria, when i started on this iewerey . perr— gloria, when i started on this journey , both parties weren't journey, both parties weren't ree— journey, both parties weren't ree keer— journey, both parties weren't ree keer er— journey, both parties weren't too keen on having minorities. ere— too keen on having minorities. rre vepewe— too keen on having minorities. the labour party— too keen on having minorities. the labour party would say, we vewe — the labour party would say, we vewe rre — the labour party would say, we love the minorities— the labour party would say, we love the minorities . but then if love the minorities. but then if you— love the minorities. but then if yew peek— love the minorities. but then if yew veek er— love the minorities. but then if you look at the— love the minorities. but then if you look at the areas where the mvreevry— you look at the areas where the mvreevry peepve— you look at the areas where the minority people lived, some of the minority people lived, some of me peeeesr— minority people lived, some of the poorest areas— minority people lived, some of the poorest areas with the vepewe— the poorest areas with the labour council— the poorest areas with the labour council as labour mps, prey— labour council as labour mps, prey wee— labour council as labour mps, prey eevrg— labour council as labour mps, they were doing nothing to bring erem— they were doing nothing to bring rrem ewr— they were doing nothing to bring rrem ewr er— they were doing nothing to bring them out of those— they were doing nothing to bring them out of those areas . and as them out of those areas. and as far them out of those areas. and as ree es— them out of those areas. and as ree es pre— them out of those areas. and as far as the tories,— them out of those areas. and as far as the tories, all credit to erem— far as the tories, all credit to rrem. mey— far as the tories, all credit to them, they told— far as the tories, all credit to them, they told you to your face eree— them, they told you to your face rrer mey— them, they told you to your face that they didn't— them, they told you to your face that they didn't want you in the eewrrey— that they didn't want you in the eewrrey ere— that they didn't want you in the country and they— that they didn't want you in the country and they used to be eeperee.— country and they used to be eeperee. eeey— country and they used to be debated. tory party conferences to debated. tory party conferences re eree— debated. tory party conferences to that effect. _ debated. tory party conferences to that effect. so— debated. tory party conferences to that effect. so my view was, you— to that effect. so my view was, yew krew. — to that effect. so my view was, you know, neither— to that effect. so my view was, you know, neither of them is eewve— you know, neither of them is eewve pe— you know, neither of them is could be judged— you know, neither of them is could be judged on on in terms of could be judged on on in terms er ee— could be judged on on in terms er ewr— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so i— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so i looked at the peee— of race. but so i looked at the veee ere— of race. but so i looked at the veee ere ere— of race. but so i looked at the idea and the philosophies of peer— idea and the philosophies of peer peepves— idea and the philosophies of both parties and i thought i veerrvrvee— both parties and i thought i identified a— both parties and i thought i identified a lot— both parties and i thought i identified a lot with the conservative _ identified a lot with the conservative party. it's, you krew— conservative party. it's, you krew .— conservative party. it's, you krew . remvvy— conservative party. it's, you know , family values, education, know, family values, education, an aspirational—
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know, family values, education, an aspirational .— know, family values, education, an aspirational . and to achieve an aspirational. and to achieve as an aspirational. and to achieve es mwer— an aspirational. and to achieve as much as your— an aspirational. and to achieve as much as your ability and revere— as much as your ability and reverr weev— as much as your ability and talent will allow you to achieve ere— talent will allow you to achieve ere se— talent will allow you to achieve ere se prep-s— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why i— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why i went for the very— and so that's why i went for the pew perry.— and so that's why i went for the pew perry. pre— and so that's why i went for the tory party, the helping hand up eemer— tory party, the helping hand up eerree eper— tory party, the helping hand up rather than helping hand down. rewee— rather than helping hand down. vewre e— rather than helping hand down. vewre e pveek— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt in— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt in taekwondo . have you ever had to use it? yes, i have had used it once. it pr— yes, i have had used it once. it vr ere— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s .— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s. i— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s. i used to live in was in the 80s. i used to live vr ayvespwey— was in the 80s. i used to live vr ayvespwey er— was in the 80s. i used to live in aylesbury at and i used to. i got— in aylesbury at and i used to. i ger e— in aylesbury at and i used to. i ger e pveek— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt at— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt at the age of 17 got a black belt at the age of w er— got a black belt at the age of w er ere— got a black belt at the age of 17 at and sometimes i used to eeem— 17 at and sometimes i used to peer wrer— 17 at and sometimes i used to train with members of the rrgvvsr— train with members of the english taekwondo team and they wsee— english taekwondo team and they wsee re— english taekwondo team and they wsee re prepr— english taekwondo team and they used to train in— english taekwondo team and they used to train in covent garden in used to train in covent garden vr er— used to train in covent garden vr er e— used to train in covent garden in on a saturday— used to train in covent garden in on a saturday afternoon . so in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd in on a saturday afternoon. so v-e gere— in on a saturday afternoon. so v-e gere re— in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd gone to train— in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd gone to train there and it wrvweky— i'd gone to train there and it was unlucky for— i'd gone to train there and it was unlucky for the people that prer— was unlucky for the people that me v— was unlucky for the people that that i encountered— was unlucky for the people that that i encountered because i was iwsr— that i encountered because i was iwsv eerwervrg— that i encountered because i was just returning after— that i encountered because i was just returning after a two hour reevrvrg— just returning after a two hour training session— just returning after a two hour training session with some of pre— training session with some of me rep— training session with some of the top fighters— training session with some of the top fighters in the country . se— the top fighters in the country . se v— the top fighters in the country . se v es— the top fighters in the country . so i was all— the top fighters in the country . so i was all warmed up, all vvmpeeee— . so i was all warmed up, all vvmpeeee wp— . so i was all warmed up, all limbered up, and— . so i was all warmed up, all limbered up, and the these three guys,— limbered up, and the these three gwys. prey— limbered up, and the these three gwys. prey werree — limbered up, and the these three guys, they wanted my money. i ever-r— guys, they wanted my money. i ever-r eeevvy— guys, they wanted my money. i didn't really feel— guys, they wanted my money. i didn't really feel like giving rrem — didn't really feel like giving rrem pre— didn't really feel like giving them the money that i had with wrer— them the money that i had with me. what time— them the money that i had with me. what time of— them the money that i had with me. what time of night- them the money that i had with me. . i“ g“. them the money that i had with
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me. �*vivv“iv . i“ g“. .7 me. what time of night was it? was it night? it was in the mveeve— was it night? it was in the mveeve er— was it night? it was in the middle of the— was it night? it was in the middle of the day.- . i“ g“7 it was in the middle of the day. middle of the day middle of the day. middle of the eey pr— middle of the day. middle of the eey vr eerreev— middle of the day. middle of the day in central london. in eerreev— day in central london. in central london. i was i think it pwpvvee— central london. i was i think it was jubilee hall— central london. i was i think it was jubilee hall where i used to eeem.— was jubilee hall where i used to veer. are— was jubilee hall where i used to veer. are se— was jubilee hall where i used to veer. are se v— was jubilee hall where i used to train. and so i was— was jubilee hall where i used to train. and so i was making my way— train. and so i was making my wey reem— train. and so i was making my way from jubilee— train. and so i was making my way from jubilee hall back to eewerr— way from jubilee hall back to eewerr-rwpe - way from jubilee hall back to covent tube station. and covent garden tube station. and it covent garden tube station. and vr—wrver— covent garden tube station. and it_which wasn't- it was a street which wasn't pwsy. — it was a street which wasn't busy,-complete- it was a street which wasn't busy, complete daylight. it busy, but complete daylight. it wes-er— busy, but complete daylight. it wes-er ere— busy, but complete daylight. it was of the afternoon in, was middle of the afternoon in, i was middle of the afternoon in, v rrvrk— was middle of the afternoon in, vervrk epewr— was middle of the afternoon in, i think about-3:00- i think about two, 3:00 or semerrvrg— i think about two, 3:00 or. semerrvrg—se i think about two, 3:00 or- something_so they something like that. and so they see.— something like that. and so they see. we— something like that. and so they see. we were— something like that. and so they said, we want your— something like that. and so they said, we want your money. and i see.— said, we want your money. and i see. peek.— said, we want your money. and i see. veek. vwe— said, we want your money. and i said, look, i've only— said, we want your money. and i said, look, i've only got enough to said, look, i've only got enough re-re— said, look, i've only got enough re-re ayvespwey- to get home to aylesbury and eper— to get home to aylesbury and veer—er- to get home to aylesbury and then—of them. to get home to aylesbury and- then_of them lunged then suddenly one of them lunged at then suddenly one of them lunged er-rrer— then suddenly one of them lunged at-then events— then suddenly one of them lunged at then events unfolded at me. and then events unfolded weey— at me. and then events unfolded wey-wreee— at me. and then events unfolded weey-wreee re— at me. and then events unfolded very-where he and- at me. and then events unfolded very where he and the very quickly where he and the eeree— very quickly where he and the erree vwe— very quickly where he and the other two were— very quickly where he and the other two were on— very quickly where he and the other two were on the floor. but it's other two were on the floor. but is v— other two were on the floor. but is v meer— other two were on the floor. but is v .— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can i— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can i just say, it's i mean, can i just say, epeere.— it's i mean, can i just say, epeere. ery— it's i mean, can i just say, gloria, any of— it's i mean, can i just say, gloria, any of your viewers werervrg.— gloria, any of your viewers werervrg. pr— gloria, any of your viewers watching, if you're asked for yewe— watching, if you're asked for yewe mey— watching, if you're asked for your money, give your money over wrevss— your money, give your money over wrevss yee— your money, give your money over wrvess ye ger— your money, give your money over wrvess ye ger e— your money, give your money over unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo— unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo and— unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo and even then, i pree— in taekwondo and even then, i revee re— in taekwondo and even then, i tried to reason— in taekwondo and even then, i tried to reason with them. you ever-r— tried to reason with them. you ever-r were— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it to— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it to end in weervee — didn't want it to end in violence. you- didn't want it to end in violence. you didn't want it peeewse— violence. you didn't want it peeewse yew— violence. you didn't want it because you only use. yeah, wrerewee— because you only use. yeah, whatever skills— because you only use. yeah, whatever skills you have as a weey— whatever skills you have as a weey eesr— whatever skills you have as a very last resort— whatever skills you have as a very last resort .— whatever skills you have as a very last resort . yeah. v/viv- very last resort. yeah. you must rewe— very last resort. yeah. you must have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified,— have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified, but- have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified, but i- i“ v:iv2 well, i wasn't terrified, but i was just mvrerwv— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that this— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that this could get ugly _
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mindful that this could get wgvy. weer.— mindful that this could get ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, re ger— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, re ger yewe— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to get your black— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to get your black belt and rrvrgs— to get your black belt and rrvrgs vvke— to get your black belt and things like that, you have to peek— things like that, you have to peeek eeer— things like that, you have to break roof tiles— things like that, you have to break roof tiles and pieces of weee— break roof tiles and pieces of weee ere— break roof tiles and pieces of wood and whatever and so on. so you— wood and whatever and so on. so yew krew.— wood and whatever and so on. so yew krew. v— wood and whatever and so on. so yew krew. v reer— wood and whatever and so on. so you know, i mean, you know, press— you know, i mean, you know, peess wps— you know, i mean, you know, peess wps prer— you know, i mean, you know, press ups that we— you know, i mean, you know, press ups that we do to add that vewev— press ups that we do to add that vewev ee— press ups that we do to add that vewev er— press ups that we do to add that level are on your— press ups that we do to add that level are on your knuckles . just level are on your knuckles. just prese— level are on your knuckles. just these - knuckles. _ level are on your knuckles. just these knuckles. you know, these two knuckles. you know, you— these two knuckles. you know, yew-wse— these two knuckles. you know, yew-wse eve— these two knuckles. you know, you - use all five - these two knuckles. you know, you use all five hands. you don't use all five hands. vew— you don't use all five hands. you em— you don't use all five hands. you ee— you don't use all five hands. you can do press— you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups- you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups on- you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups on your knuckles, on your knuckle. and just two knuckles, knuckles, on your knuckle. and just-two knuckles,-allj just these two knuckles, not all rewe— just these two knuckles, not all rew-yew— just these two knuckles, not all rew-yew serve- just these two knuckles, not all four-you still do- four either. do you still do rreme — four either. do you still do rreme pe— four either. do you still do them? do you- four either. do you still do them? jviv ..7 four either. do you still do- them? do you still? well when i'm i'm trying to pretend i'm when i'm trying to pretend that i'm exercising, yes. i instinctively go instinctively i will just go on my krwekves. — instinctively i will just go on my knuckles. can't now go and my knuckles. i can't now go and do my knuckles. i can't now go and eeler— my knuckles. i can't now go and eeler ere— my knuckles. i can't now go and dolon the hands.— my knuckles. i can't now go and do on the hands. even if i do it on the hands. even if i werree— do it on the hands. even if i werree re— do it on the hands. even if i wanted to, because instinct will ewse— wanted to, because instinct will iwsr-me— wanted to, because instinct will iwsr-me-pwr- wanted to, because instinct will iwsr-me-pwr v-e- wanted to, because instinct will just me but i'd like just take me there. but i'd like to just take me there. but i'd like re rewe— just take me there. but i'd like to have carried— just take me there. but i'd like to have carried training. to have carried on training. epeere— to have carried on training. gloria-sadly- to have carried on training. gloria-sadly ,- to have carried on training. gloria sadly , career and gloria but sadly, career and remvvy— gloria but sadly, career and remvvy ere— gloria but sadly, career and family and all— gloria but sadly, career and family and all of that has taken se— family and all of that has taken se eer-r— family and all of that has taken over. so don't mess with sheila ereweee. — over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what— over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what a— over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what a point- over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. vi“ chavara. what a point to end on. but also to see the difference s that this country has undergone in terms of race relations through your eyes, your personal life has been a fascinating journey. shailesh vara thank you .thank journey. shailesh vara thank you . thank you. thanks for
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watching. back next sunday at 6:00 for gloria. meet. hello there. i'm 6:00 for gloria. meet.- - hello there. i'm jonathan hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey - hello there. i'm jonathan vewreey reee— . hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of— . hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your- hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb eews— vautrey here of your latest gb news _forecast - vautrey here of your latest gb news forecast provided news weather forecast provided by news weather forecast provided py-vrer— news weather forecast provided py-vrer orrvee. — news weather forecast provided by met office. after a very by the met office. after a very rep. — by the met office. after a very warm, hot, even— by the met office. after a very warm, hot, even weekend, there are warm, hot, even weekend, there svgrs— warm, hot, even weekend, there svgrs er— warm, hot, even weekend, there svgrs er e— warm, hot, even weekend, there are signs of a change on the way mre— are signs of a change on the way vrre ere— are signs of a change on the way vrre rre ew— are signs of a change on the way into the new working week behind this into the new working week behind rrvs eeke— into the new working week behind this cold front— into the new working week behind this cold front .— into the new working week behind this cold front . and— into the new working week behind this cold front . and winds are this cold front. and winds are srvrrvrg— this cold front. and winds are shifting more— this cold front. and winds are shifting more to— this cold front. and winds are shifting more to a westerly eveeerver. — shifting more to a westerly direction. helping to direction. that's helping to reee— direction. that's helping to feed—humid. direction. that's helping to. feed—humid and feed in some less humid and svvgrrvy— feed in some less humid and slightly fresher— feed in some less humid and slightly fresher air across the uk slightly fresher air across the vrk .— slightly fresher air across the wk . wrvvsr— slightly fresher air across the uk . whilst this— slightly fresher air across the uk . whilst this cold front is uk. whilst this cold front is serve— uk. whilst this cold front is see wrer— uk. whilst this cold front is still with us— uk. whilst this cold front is still with us though, there is serve— still with us though, there is see ere— still with us though, there is still the -of - still with us though, there is still the _of some- still with us though, there is still the of some heavy still the chance of some heavy ewrpeeeks— still the chance of some heavy outbreaks-across- outbreaks of rain across reerreesr— outbreaks of rain across northeast-andl outbreaks of rain across- northeast-and east northeast england and east seervere— northeast england and east scotland throughout the start of this scotland throughout the start of eres-peevee.- scotland throughout the start of this-period. but- this overnight period. but rwervrg—reel turning to turn drier for eweereye— turning to turn drier for everyone apart from a few sewers— everyone apart from a few showers across— everyone apart from a few showers across the far north—west. - showers across the far north—west. but with those reesree— north—west. but with those fresher conditions in place, temperatures— fresher conditions in place, temperatures-a- fresher conditions in place, temperatures a notch temperatures will be a notch rewee— temperatures will be a notch vewee-vesr— temperatures will be a notch lower-last night.- temperatures will be a notch lower last night. generally lower than last night. generally revvvrg— lower than last night. generally revvvrg eewr— lower than last night. generally falling down to— lower than last night. generally falling down to 12,— lower than last night. generally falling down to 12, 14 c. so a veeree— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a were per— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a little bit more— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a little bit more comfortable for sveepvrg— little bit more comfortable for sveepvrg ree— little bit more comfortable for sleeping for many of us. monday eper— sleeping for many of us. monday rrer sees—
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sleeping for many of us. monday rrer e— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot of— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot of sunny vrreevevs— then sees a lot of sunny intervals to— then sees a lot of sunny intervals to start off the day, pwr— intervals to start off the day, pwr weev— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start to— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start to see some seweesr— but we'll start to see some showers bubbling up for late meervrg— showers bubbling up for late meervrg mre— showers bubbling up for late morning into the afternoon, peepvewveevy— morning into the afternoon, particularly across the northern repr— particularly across the northern revr .— particularly across the northern revr . prese— particularly across the northern half . those could— particularly across the northern half . those could be heavy with half. those could be heavy with a-thunderstorms_ half. those could be heavy with a thunderstorms in there a few thunderstorms in there as week.— a few thunderstorms in there as week. weees.— a few thunderstorms in there as well. wales, southern well. wales, central, southern eeees—veegevy- well. wales, central, southern. areas—largely staying areas of england largely staying dry areas of england largely staying eey wrer— areas of england largely staying eey wvrr sme— areas of england largely staying dry with some sunny spells . dry with some sunny spells. werveeepvy— dry with some sunny spells. noticeably fresher, though, for a noticeably fresher, though, for e ver— noticeably fresher, though, for e ver er— noticeably fresher, though, for e ver er — noticeably fresher, though, for a lot of us. temperatures gereeevvy— a lot of us. temperatures generally around the high teens in generally around the high teens vr ere— generally around the high teens in the north—west— generally around the high teens in the north—west close towards vew— in the north—west close towards eew-zes— in the north—west close towards low-20s, further- in the north—west close towards low 20s, further towards low or mid 20s, further towards the low or mid 20s, further towards me sewer— low or mid 20s, further towards the south and— low or mid 20s, further towards the south and east. the showers weev— the south and east. the showers wvvv eve— the south and east. the showers wvvv eve err— the south and east. the showers will die off as— the south and east. the showers will die off as we— the south and east. the showers will die off as we head into veereey— will die off as we head into monday evening and allow eevervvevy— monday evening and allow relatively fine— monday evening and allow relatively fine end to the day. ewr— relatively fine end to the day. we eeme— relatively fine end to the day. but come the _ relatively fine end to the day. but come the second half of the regre— but come the second half of the rvgnr.-gevrg— but come the second half of the regre-gevrg re— but come the second half of the night,-going to see- but come the second half of the night, going to see a band night, we're going to see a band of night, we're going to see a band er—wey— night, we're going to see a band er—wey mre- of rain push its way into weerreer— of rain push its way into northern-and. of rain push its way into northern and it of rain push its way into- northern _and it then northern ireland and it then peeemes— northern ireland and it then becomes a damp for western becomes a damp start for western peeeme— becomes a damp start for western seervere.—erel scotland, northern england and mre— scotland, northern england and vrre weees.— scotland, northern england and into wales. and— scotland, northern england and into wales. and rain will into wales. and that rain will eerrvrwe— into wales. and that rain will continue-push— into wales. and that rain will continue push through during continue to push through during the continue to push through during ere-ere— continue to push through during ere-ere mese— continue to push through during the the most persistent and the day. the most persistent and reevy— the day. the most persistent and reevy-peers— the day. the most persistent and reevy-peers er- heavy bursts for parts of reerr—wesr— heavy bursts for parts of north—west-,l heavy bursts for parts of- north—west-, north—west north—west scotland, north—west rrgvere—wevesl north—west scotland, north—west rrgvere—weves -i north—west scotland, north—west. england _wales . it england and north—west wales. it will england and north—west wales. it wvvv rwer— england and north—west wales. it will turn patchier_ england and north—west wales. it will turn patchier further to ere— will turn patchier further to ere-ere— will turn patchier further to the and actually southern the east and actually southern areas—towards- the east and actually southern areas—towards the. areas of england towards the sewer—eesr— areas of england towards the south—east-stay- areas of england towards the south—east stay dry south—east may stay dry preewgrewr— south—east may stay dry throughout day, but still throughout the day, but still eemer— throughout the day, but still rather compared rather cloudy compared to of we — rather cloudy compared to of we .— rather cloudy compared to of we . prer— rather cloudy compared to of late . that continues to late. that rain continues to pwsr— late. that rain continues to wsr-erewgr- late. that rain continues to push through, but push its way through, but mere-s— push its way through, but- there's—fronts
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channel very good evening to you. it is 7:00. i'm aaron armstrong in the ere— 7:00. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the united states says _the_ anthony blinken, says the _the united. anthony blinken, says the. _the united states anthony blinken, says the- _the united states says newsroom. the united states says yesreeeey-s— newsroom. the united states says yesterday's armed _ newsroom. the united states says yesreeeey-s— newsroom. the united states says yesterday's armed _ newsroom. the united states says yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve— yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve es— yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve e— yesterday's armed rebellion in yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve— yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve es— yesterday's armed rebellion in kwssve e— yesterday's armed rebellion in russia was a direct challenge to vveevmve— russia was a direct challenge to vveevmve— russia was a direct challenge to vladimir putin's— russia was a direct challenge to russia was a direct challenge to vladimir putin's— russia was a direct challenge to vladimir putin's authority and vladimir putin's authority and eeveesv— vladimir putin's authority and reveals cracks— vladimir putin's authority and reveals cracks appearing in his eeveesv— vladimir putin's authority and reveals cracks— vladimir putin's authority and reveals cracks appearing in his mvvvreey— reveals cracks appearing in his military strategy. _ reveals cracks appearing in his military strategy. the mutiny by mvvvreey— reveals cracks appearing in his military strategy. _ reveals cracks appearing in his military strategy. the mutiny by the military strategy. the mutiny by me wegree— military strategy. the mutiny by the wagner mercenary group was the eereee— the wagner mercenary group was eevvee err— the wagner mercenary group was called off last— the wagner mercenary group was called off last night. it's understood— called off last night. it's understood it's leader yevgeny revgezrvr— understood it's leader yevgeny prigozhin will— understood it's leader yevgeny prigozhin will be— understood it's leader yevgeny prigozhin will be exiled to peveews— prigozhin will be exiled to peveews .— prigozhin will be exiled to belarus. his— prigozhin will be exiled to belarus. his fighters were en rewee— belarus. his fighters were en eewre re— belarus. his fighters were en route to moscow— belarus. his fighters were en route to moscow to remove kwssver— route to moscow to remove russian commanders. prigozhin peemes— russian commanders. prigozhin pvemes ree— russian commanders. prigozhin blames for mishandling the war. the blames for mishandling the war. rre es— blames for mishandling the war. the us secretary— blames for mishandling the war. the us secretary of state, arrrery— the us secretary of state,
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