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focus for the russians, that of focus for the russians, that may help the ukrainians on the battlefield. exactly may help the ukrainians on the battlefield . exactly where this battlefield. exactly where this goes— battlefield. exactly where this goes ,— battlefield. exactly where this goes , we — battlefield. exactly where this geee , we den-e— battlefield. exactly where this goes , we don't know. - c: exactly where this goes , we don't know. but what we goes, we don't know. but what we do know— goes, we don't know. but what we do know ee— goes, we don't know. but what we do know is that— goes, we don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen real eks— do know is that we've seen real ks eerge— do know is that we've seen real ks eerge .— do know is that we've seen real cracks emerge . again, a direct cracks emerge. again, a direct errekkerrge— cracks emerge. again, a direct errekkerrge re— cracks emerge. again, a direct challenge to putin's authority . challenge to putin's authority. kne— challenge to putin's authority. are wrrke— challenge to putin's authority. and while the— challenge to putin's authority. and while the immediate- challenge to putin's authority. and while the immediate risk to vladimir putin appears to have been contained, emergency security measures remain in place in moscow, as russian journal east lexi ver told gb news earlier, everything is has been resolved. it seems that the eeresrregrre— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has been— " : it seems that the catastrophe has been avoided. we srrkk— catastrophe has been avoided. we srrkk ee— catastrophe has been avoided. we srrkk ee reeve— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some extra law enforcement— still do have some extra law enforcement here on the streets erre— enforcement here on the streets ere reek— enforcement here on the streets ere reek ee— enforcement here on the streets and they are wearing some heavy geek— and they are wearing some heavy geer. rer— and they are wearing some heavy gear. for example,— and they are wearing some heavy gear. for example, bullet—proof vesrs— gear. for example, bullet—proof vesrs erre— gear. for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets— gear. for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets . they have vests and helmets. they have meerrre— vests and helmets. they have meerrrre gens— vests and helmets. they have machine guns, which which is ereseek— machine guns, which which is ereseek . eer— machine guns, which which is unusual . but as— machine guns, which which is unusual . but as you can see unusual. but as you can see he...— unusual. but as you can see here, ure— unusual. but as you can see here, life lviv_ unusual. but as you can see here, life lviv continues. the srreerrer— here, life lviv continues. the situation here _ here, life lviv continues. the situation here in— here, life lviv continues. the situation here in downtown rreseew— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't seem any any errrererrr— moscow doesn't seem any any different from _ moscow doesn't seem any any different from the— moscow doesn't seem any any different from the usual. the kee— different from the usual. the red sgeere— different from the usual. the red sgeere rs— different from the usual. the red square is still closed, but errrer— red square is still closed, but errrer reen— red square is still closed, but other than that,— red square is still closed, but other than that, everything seerrsrrrer— other than that, everything seems fine . _ other than that, everything seems fine . f
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seems fine. the chancellor says raising interest rates is one of the most effective methods to kerb inflation this week. rates were hiked up to 5% from 4.5 the 13th rise in a row, and it was the sharpest increase since february. and the move means mortgage holders are preparing for a big jump in their monthly repayments . hundreds of mourners repayments. hundreds of mourners have gathered in london for a silent walking vigil marking the first anniversary of zara alina's death. the 35 year old law graduate was sexually assaulted and killed as she walked home from a night out on june the 26th. last year , the 29 june the 26th. last year, the 29 year old jordan mcsweeney is currently serving a life sentence , having been jailed for sentence, having been jailed for at least 38 years. friends and family of ms zara aleena joined the vigil at valentines park in ilford, farinaz. her aunt says we need to keep spreading the word. it we need to keep spreading the word . it could have been any one word. it could have been any one of word. it could have been any one or us— word. it could have been any one or veer— word. it could have been any one of us. your sister— word. it could have been any one of us. your sister ,_ word. it could have been any one of us. your sister , your- of us. your sister, your degree— of us. your sister, your daughter, your niece. let's speed— daughter, your niece. let's spreee rhe— daughter, your niece. let's spread the word. let's disrupt vrekeree— spread the word. let's disrupt violence against— spread the word. let's disrupt violence against women and girls
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. rees— violence against women and girls . rer-s regerrrer— violence against women and girls . let's together interrupt it. rees— . let's together interrupt it. let's together— . let's together interrupt it. let's together come affronted. rees— let's together come affronted. rer-s rer— let's together come affronted. let's not look— let's together come affronted. let's not look the— let's together come affronted. let's not look the other way and res— let's not look the other way and res ger— let's not look the other way and res ger emer— let's not look the other way and let's get other people not to reek— let's get other people not to reek rrre — let's get other people not to look the other— let's get other people not to look the other way. all states seeerreery— look the other way. all states secondary schools in england are egergpee— secondary schools in england are now equipped with— secondary schools in england are now equipped with a defibrillator. now equipped with a- defibrillator. the government says secondary schools received priority because of the risk of cardiac arrest, which increases with age. the department for health says the devices will also be rolled out in primary and special schools. that's due to be completed by the end of the summer term and in a few hours time it will be goodbye yellow brick road for good in this country at least sir elton john will close the glastonbury festival by headlining the pyramid stage . his final uk festival by headlining the pyramid stage. his final uk gig 53 years after his first sir, elton's promised a number of special guests and also to open with a song he hasn't played in the last ten years. people started claiming front row spots at the crack of dawn around 4
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am. the performance doesn't start till nine, turned up three hours after these guys. i was here at 7 am. i was gs i was here at 7 am. i was third in re— here at 7 am. i was third in re geeee— here at 7 am. i was third in the queue. and— here at 7 am. i was third in the queue. and you can't miss error— the queue. and you can't miss errors rere— the queue. and you can't miss elton john last— the queue. and you can't miss elton john last ever uk gig besrerery— elton john last ever uk gig besrererk .— elton john last ever uk gig bastardry . what a day. bastardry. what a day. look, i kine— bastardry. what a day. look, i kind er— bastardry. what a day. look, i kind or kegs— bastardry. what a day. look, i kind of kept the tickets initially , but just for like initially, but just for like elton john. so i figured like this is such a once in a lifetime chance that i can sleep any other day. but like front row , glastonbury, last uk row, glastonbury, last uk concert, that's probably going to be like a once in a lifetime chance. lovely to be like a once in a lifetime chance . lovely weather for chance. lovely weather for ekesrereery— chance. lovely weather for ekesrerkeerk .— chance. lovely weather for glastonbury . we- rt“? rt.r::; lovely weather for glastonbury . we do {j�*e�* rt.r::; lovely weather for glastonbury . we do hope kt“? rt.r:i; lovely weather for glastonbury . we do hope you've glastonbury. we do hope you've been— glastonbury. we do hope you've been erg-egreg— glastonbury. we do hope you've been enjoying the— glastonbury. we do hope you've been enjoying the warm conditions,— been enjoying the warm conditions, but the met office is eerrrrg— conditions, but the met office is warning people to enjoy the rreer— is warning people to enjoy the heat responsibly.— is warning people to enjoy the heat responsibly. it is after rhe— heat responsibly. it is after the forecaster— heat responsibly. it is after the forecaster recorded the germ— the forecaster recorded the joint hottest _ the forecaster recorded the joint hottest temperature of the year— joint hottest temperature of the yeer re— joint hottest temperature of the year in lincolnshire earlier erre— year in lincolnshire earlier errrr m— year in lincolnshire earlier with 32.2 degrees in coningsby egeekky— with 32.2 degrees in coningsby egeekkg rhe— with 32.2 degrees in coningsby equally the figure in surrey in errerrsek— equally the figure in surrey in chertsey earlier— equally the figure in surrey in chertsey earlier this month, thunderstorms— chertsey earlier this month, thunderstorms and heavy showers, megs,— thunderstorms and heavy showers, rreegrr, ee— thunderstorms and heavy showers, though, are expected to hit rerrrrerrr— though, are expected to hit northern england, scotland and gerrs— northern england, scotland and gerrs er— northern england, scotland and parts of northern— northern england, scotland and parts of northern ireland later rrrrs— parts of northern ireland later
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rrrrs evening— parts of northern ireland later rrrrs everrrg .— parts of northern ireland later this evening . tv— parts of northern ireland later this evening . tv online dab and this evening. tv online dab and rere— this evening. tv online dab and rere re— this evening. tv online dab and rere rrr kegs.— this evening. tv online dab and tune in radio. this— this evening. tv online dab and tune in radio. this is gb news. new— tune in radio. this is gb news. new rr-s— tune in radio. this is gb news. new rr-s rime— tune in radio. this is gb news. now it's time for— tune in radio. this is gb news. now it's time for glory meets. reek— now it's time for glory meets. rreeg ereerr— now it's time for glory meets. tracy brabin and— now it's time for glory meets. tracy brabin and west yorkshire meyer. — tracy brabin and west yorkshire meyer. rhe— tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. the first— tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. the first and- tracy brabin and west yorkshire mayor. �*" mayor. the first and the only woman metro mayor. why.7 well mayor. the first and the only woman metro mayor. why? well you tell me. because it is one of re— tell me. because it is one of re bese— tell me. because it is one of re reesr gees— tell me. because it is one of the best jobs in— because it is one of the best jobs in politics. rrrere-s— the best jobs in politics. there's ten— the best jobs in politics. there's ten metro mayors across the there's ten metro mayors across rrre eeerrrk — there's ten metro mayors across rrre eeerrrk ere— there's ten metro mayors across the country. we represent 22 mrkkrer— the country. we represent 22 million people.— the country. we represent 22 million people. and i am the rrrsr— million people. and i am the first woman,— million people. and i am the first woman, like— million people. and i am the first woman, like you say, but kegerekky— first woman, like you say, but kegerekg err— first woman, like you say, but hopefully an inspiration to errrers— hopefully an inspiration to errers .— hopefully an inspiration to others . there— hopefully an inspiration to others . there will be other others. there will be other meerks— others. there will be other mayors coming _ others. there will be other mayors coming through the system with mayors coming through the system were rerrrrer— mayors coming through the system with further devolution, which is reeke— with further devolution, which is really exciting.— with further devolution, which is really exciting. i think . and
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is really exciting. i think. and r-m — is really exciting. i think. and rm segreg— is really exciting. i think. and rm kegrrg rhes— is really exciting. i think. and i'm hoping that women can see you— i'm hoping that women can see gee knee,— i'm hoping that women can see gee knee, rrrer— i'm hoping that women can see you know, that i'm— i'm hoping that women can see you know, that i'm really erg-egreg— you know, that i'm really erg-egrrg kr— you know, that i'm really erg-egrrg rr .— you know, that i'm really enjoying it . we're getting enjoying it. we're getting rrrrrrgs— enjoying it. we're getting things done— enjoying it. we're getting things done and that they are inspired— things done and that they are inspired re— things done and that they are inspired to put— things done and that they are inspired to put their hand in re— inspired to put their hand in re err— inspired to put their hand in re err re— inspired to put their hand in the air to be— inspired to put their hand in the air to be selected . ' r: r:r:ir the air to be selected. and do you— the air to be selected. and do you seek— the air to be selected. and do you rrrrk re— the air to be selected. and do you think it means your priority is as a mayor are different by virtue of the fact that you're a woman? oh, there's no doubt ekeeer— woman? oh, there's no doubt eeeer k.— woman? oh, there's no doubt eeeer k r— woman? oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean— woman? oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean ,_ , oh, there's no doubt about it. i mean , our lived about it. i mean, our lived ekerrgerree— about it. i mean, our lived ekerrgerree es— about it. i mean, our lived experience as women is it's our segergeeer— experience as women is it's our segergewer ,— experience as women is it's our segergewer , rsr-r— experience as women is it's our superpower , isn't it? because we superpower, isn't it? because we knew— superpower, isn't it? because we knew wher— superpower, isn't it? because we know what needs— superpower, isn't it? because we know what needs to be done. and i know what needs to be done. and r rrrrrrk— know what needs to be done. and r rrrrrrk erre— know what needs to be done. and rrrrrrrk er— know what needs to be done. and i think one of the— know what needs to be done. and i think one of the first decisions— i think one of the first decisions i— i think one of the first decisions i made as mayor was to revise— decisions i made as mayor was to we egre— decisions i made as mayor was to invite right, alison— decisions i made as mayor was to invite right, alison lowe, to be my eegerg— invite right, alison lowe, to be my deputy mayor— invite right, alison lowe, to be my deputy mayor for police and errme— my deputy mayor for police and . arre— my deputy mayor for police and . are es— my deputy mayor for police and crime . and as a— my deputy mayor for police and crime . and as a woman of colour crime. and as a woman of colour as crime. and as a woman of colour es eek,— crime. and as a woman of colour es weg, erre— crime. and as a woman of colour as well, and somebody who was an ex eeererkker— as well, and somebody who was an ex councillor and— as well, and somebody who was an ex councillor and also the chair of ex councillor and also the chair or erre— ex councillor and also the chair or re gekree— ex councillor and also the chair of the police and— ex councillor and also the chair of the police and crime panel erre— of the police and crime panel came with enormous experience, but came with enormous experience, keer ekse— came with enormous experience, keer ekse ker— came with enormous experience, but also her own— came with enormous experience, but also her own lived experience _ but also her own lived experience .- but also her own lived experience . yes. and she talks experience. yes. and she talks very— experience. yes. and she talks eerg opene— experience. yes. and she talks very openly about— experience. yes. and she talks very openly about it being a seeker— very openly about it being a servrrer er— very openly about it being a survivor of child— very openly about it being a survivor of child abuse and so arre— survivor of child abuse and so are my— survivor of child abuse and so on. and my lived— survivor of child abuse and so on. and my lived experience regerrrer— on. and my lived experience regerrser res— on. and my lived experience together has driven our focus on the together has driven our focus on rrre serery— together has driven our focus on rrre serery er— together has driven our focus on the safety of women and girls as
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a the safety of women and girls as e errerrrk— the safety of women and girls as e errerrrg rer— the safety of women and girls as a priority for our— the safety of women and girls as a priority for our police and errme— a priority for our police and gker. — a priority for our police and crime plan. so— a priority for our police and crime plan. so leadership really merrers— crime plan. so leadership really merrers .— crime plan. so leadership really merrers . arre— crime plan. so leadership really matters . and i— crime plan. so leadership really matters . and i think hopefully matters. and i think hopefully rrrer— matters. and i think hopefully rrrer ekse— matters. and i think hopefully that also impacts on our gekreres. — that also impacts on our policies. now— that also impacts on our policies. now before you were rresr— policies. now before you were west yorkshire _ policies. now before you were west yorkshire mayor, you were a embe— west yorkshire mayor, you were a member or— west yorkshire mayor, you were a member of parliament and labour embe— member of parliament and labour embe ee— member of parliament and labour member of parliament and labour member of parliament before that you member of parliament before that gee beb— member of parliament before that gee bee e— member of parliament before that gee bee e greer— member of parliament before that you had a great life— member of parliament before that you had a great life looking at beesr— you had a great life looking at keesr mem— you had a great life looking at least from the— you had a great life looking at least from the outside . /r:ir. “er: least from the outside. you had bers— least from the outside. you had bees er— least from the outside. you had bees er ev— least from the outside. you had lots of tv roles— least from the outside. you had lots of tv roles amongst which you were. tricia armstrong in like the greatest show on the planet , coronation street . why? planet, coronation street. why? jack in being an actor, an actress for politics? well it wasn't that i it in and then decided to be a politician. fate and circumstance ince deemed— fate and circumstance ince beekeee br— fate and circumstance ince decided it for— fate and circumstance ince decided it for me. you'll remember jo— decided it for me. you'll remember jo cox as an actor , i rememberjo cox as an actor, i errem— rememberjo cox as an actor, i eerem seem— rememberjo cox as an actor, i often spent time— rememberjo cox as an actor, i often spent time supporting bebeer— often spent time supporting labour candidates in elections, eberber— labour candidates in elections, whether that's— labour candidates in elections, whether that's councillors or eembbberes— whether that's councillors or candidates to— whether that's councillors or candidates to be _ whether that's councillors or candidates to be mps, and i met
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jo candidates to be mps, and i met re breem— candidates to be mps, and i met re brerrm eeek.— candidates to be mps, and i met jo blown away. she's an incredible— jo blown away. she's an incredible woman and campaigned incredible woman and campaigned m beekee— incredible woman and campaigned m berkey eme— incredible woman and campaigned in batley and spen— incredible woman and campaigned in batley and spen with jo and mem— in batley and spen with jo and been egem— in batley and spen with jo and then again when— in batley and spen with jo and then again when she was elected to then again when she was elected re keeb— then again when she was elected re keep me— then again when she was elected to keep the local— then again when she was elected to keep the local library open emb— to keep the local library open emb mem— to keep the local library open and then when— to keep the local library open and then when she was murdered, i and then when she was murdered, r meem— and then when she was murdered, r ee— and then when she was murdered, i mean we were all— and then when she was murdered, i mean we were all so shocked. it i mean we were all so shocked. rr es— i mean we were all so shocked. rr se— i mean we were all so shocked. rr se eer— i mean we were all so shocked. rr se eer er— i mean we were all so shocked. it was so out of the— i mean we were all so shocked. it was so out of the blue and eweek— it was so out of the blue and eweek wbem— it was so out of the blue and awful when i— it was so out of the blue and awful when i went to the funeral emb— awful when i went to the funeral emb r— awful when i went to the funeral emb r sere— awful when i went to the funeral emb r sebe re— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one of— awful when i went to the funeral and i said to one of her memes— and i said to one of her friends, what- and i said to one of her friends, what can i do? and she serg— friends, what can i do? and she sebb, be— friends, what can i do? and she sebb, be you— friends, what can i do? and she said, do you want— friends, what can i do? and she said, do you want to be an mp? i sebbemw— said, do you want to be an mp? i suddenly realised,— said, do you want to be an mp? i suddenly realised, actually, eber-s— suddenly realised, actually, eber-s be.— suddenly realised, actually, that's it. that's— suddenly realised, actually, that's it. that's what i'm you knew,— that's it. that's what i'm you knew; r— that's it. that's what i'm you know, i wasn't— that's it. that's what i'm you know, i wasn't guaranteed that i weeke— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i weeke be— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i weeke be me— know, i wasn't guaranteed that i would be the candidate because mere— would be the candidate because rbere wee— would be the candidate because rbere bo— would be the candidate because there were 40 others. but i rbeegm— there were 40 others. but i rbeegm ,— there were 40 others. but i rbeegm , me— there were 40 others. but i thought , no, i— there were 40 others. but i thought, no, i must do that for my eer— thought, no, i must do that for my be my— thought, no, i must do that for my be my rewm— thought, no, i must do that for my for my town because i was bem— my for my town because i was berm m— my for my town because i was born in batley. _ my for my town because i was born in batley. my— my for my town because i was born in batley. my mum had a eeee— born in batley. my mum had a eeee m— born in batley. my mum had a cafe in birstall_ born in batley. my mum had a cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. cafe in birstall and, and i knew re. r— cafe in birstall and, and i knew re. r ebse— cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. i also know— cafe in birstall and, and i knew jo. i also know hadn't tried to be em— jo. i also know hadn't tried to be em bre— jo. i also know hadn't tried to be an mp before,— jo. i also know hadn't tried to be an mp before, so i didn't beve— be an mp before, so i didn't bewe eber— be an mp before, so i didn't have that sort— be an mp before, so i didn't have that sort of— be an mp before, so i didn't have that sort of that baggage eme— have that sort of that baggage emb ebe,— have that sort of that baggage emb ekse, r— have that sort of that baggage and also, i think— have that sort of that baggage and also, i think actors have enormous empathy and i think mer— enormous empathy and i think eber es— enormous empathy and i think that was really— enormous empathy and i think that was really needed because we reekw— that was really needed because we were really hurting as a
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eemmemrw— we were really hurting as a community and— we were really hurting as a community and people would see me m— community and people would see me be me— community and people would see me in the street— community and people would see me in the street and burst into beers— me in the street and burst into tears because— me in the street and burst into tears because it— me in the street and burst into tears because it would remind mem— tears because it would remind rbem eber— tears because it would remind rbem eber rm— tears because it would remind them that i'm only there because jo them that i'm only there because be me— them that i'm only there because re esr se— them that i'm only there because jo wasn't so really,— them that i'm only there because jo wasn't so really, really rregbe— jo wasn't so really, really rregbe .— jo wasn't so really, really rregre . amb— jo wasn't so really, really tragic . and i— jo wasn't so really, really tragic . and i didn't really know tragic. and i didn't really know wber— tragic. and i didn't really know we r— tragic. and i didn't really know we r es— tragic. and i didn't really know what i was doing— tragic. and i didn't really know what i was doing either. so i beee— what i was doing either. so i became an mp— what i was doing either. so i became an mp and i was in so meeb— became an mp and i was in so meeb sbeek— became an mp and i was in so much shock. i'd— became an mp and i was in so much shock. i'd never even been in much shock. i'd never even been m bem— much shock. i'd never even been m berb breed— much shock. i'd never even been in beth mead house of parliament.— in beth mead house of parliament. so it was a it was a reegb— parliament. so it was a it was a reegb gm— parliament. so it was a it was a reegb grg, ber— parliament. so it was a it was a tough gig, but lots— parliament. so it was a it was a tough gig, but lots of support mem— tough gig, but lots of support from colleagues— tough gig, but lots of support from colleagues like yourself eme— from colleagues like yourself emb erbers— from colleagues like yourself and others in— from colleagues like yourself and others in parliament to get rbreegb— and others in parliament to get rbreegb . — and others in parliament to get rbreegb . se— and others in parliament to get through . so you've- and others in parliament to get through . “er: and others in parliament to get through . wer: through. so you've had these great jobs, politician, leading politician , mp, mayor, actor, politician, mp, mayor, actor, but actually you start in life was was really humble . you grew was was really humble. you grew up in a council house. well, yeah. and what's been really eseeek— yeah. and what's been really useful about— yeah. and what's been really useful about that— and what's been really useful about that experience is my useful about that experience is mw eee— useful about that experience is my bed es— useful about that experience is my dad was always in and out of week. — my dad was always in and out of week. we— my dad was always in and out of week. be es— my dad was always in and out of week. be e— my dad was always in and out of work. he was a salesman at and web— work. he was a salesman at and web beegbr— work. he was a salesman at and web beegm e— work. he was a salesman at and we'd bought a house and then eeekem-r— we'd bought a house and then couldn't continue— we'd bought a house and then couldn't continue paying the em— couldn't continue paying the em ,— couldn't continue paying the em , ebe— couldn't continue paying the rent , the mortgage and obviously rent, the mortgage and obviously this rent, the mortgage and obviously ems emmes— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with so— rent, the mortgage and obviously this chimes with so many people at this chimes with so many people er ebe— this chimes with so many people er rbe memem— this chimes with so many people at the moment with mortgages sky bbgb. — at the moment with mortgages sky bbgb. se— at the moment with mortgages sky mgb. se me— at the moment with mortgages sky mgb. be my mem— at the moment with mortgages sky high. so my mum took the key beek— high. so my mum took the key beek re— high. so my mum took the key beek be me— high. so my mum took the key back to the to _ high. so my mum took the key back to the to the— high. so my mum took the key back to the to the building seeberw— back to the to the building seererw eme— back to the to the building society and for— back to the to the building society and for a while there
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bege— society and for a while there was huge anxiety that we were bemekess— was huge anxiety that we were homeless and,— was huge anxiety that we were homeless and, you know, we were very— homeless and, you know, we were very young- — homeless and, you know, we were very young- se— homeless and, you know, we were very young- se me— homeless and, you know, we were very young. so my mum had two beeke— very young. so my mum had two were ees— very young. so my mum had two little ones and— very young. so my mum had two little ones and my— very young. so my mum had two little ones and my dad went to the little ones and my dad went to me eeemebk— little ones and my dad went to the council and— little ones and my dad went to the council and threw himself on the council and threw himself on me merew— the council and threw himself on me merew ee— the council and threw himself on the mercy of the— the council and threw himself on the mercy of the council because we gemg— the mercy of the council because we gemg re— the mercy of the council because we were going to be homeless and we were going to be homeless and we ger— we were going to be homeless and we ger e— we were going to be homeless and we ger e ewe— we were going to be homeless and we got a two bedroom council eber.— we got a two bedroom council eber. ber— we got a two bedroom council flat. but what— we got a two bedroom council flat. but what was what was reekw— flat. but what was what was really powerful— flat. but what was what was really powerful about that is eber— really powerful about that is eber r— really powerful about that is eber r kmew— really powerful about that is that i know now— really powerful about that is that i know now only that i know now that i've only been— that i know now that i've only been-re— that i know now that i've only been -to achieve- that i know now that i've only been to achieve i've been able to achieve what i've eemewee— been able to achieve what i've eemewee-we- been able to achieve what i've achieved -we -that| achieved because we had that seem,— achieved because we had that seeerrrw eber— achieved because we had that security, that it— achieved because we had that security, that it wasn't about a bembkerb— security, that it wasn't about a landlord who _ security, that it wasn't about a landlord who was— security, that it wasn't about a landlord who was then going to sew— landlord who was then going to seek-brebemw— landlord who was then going to seek-brebemw er— landlord who was then going to sell property or put the sell the property or put the rems— sell the property or put the rents- know, - sell the property or put the rents know, that's why rents up. you know, that's why for rents up. you know, that's why be me— rents up. you know, that's why rents up. you know, that's why be ee— rents up. you know, that's why for me, one of my— rents up. you know, that's why for me, one of my manifesto eemmbrmems— for me, one of my manifesto commitments, 5000 affordable memes— commitments, 5000 affordable bemes emb— commitments, 5000 affordable bemes emb we— commitments, 5000 affordable homes and we know that housing is seem— homes and we know that housing is seeb e— homes and we know that housing is seeb e bege— homes and we know that housing is such a huge crisis, you will mer— is such a huge crisis, you will not flourish— is such a huge crisis, you will not flourish unless you have seee — not flourish unless you have seee beme. — not flourish unless you have safe home. and— not flourish unless you have safe home. and that's why it's in safe home. and that's why it's m bemeem— safe home. and that's why it's in london and— safe home. and that's why it's in london and elsewhere . mayors in london and elsewhere. mayors ebe— in london and elsewhere. mayors across the country— in london and elsewhere. mayors across the country are really seemg— across the country are really seeing housing— across the country are really seeing housing as a priority. so it seeing housing as a priority. so br br— seeing housing as a priority. so be be bees— seeing housing as a priority. so it it does motivate— seeing housing as a priority. so it it does motivate you. you knew— it it does motivate you. you kmew ,— it it does motivate you. you kmew , bew— it it does motivate you. you know , how you— it it does motivate you. you know , how you how you face know, how you how you face ebekkemges— know, how you how you face challenges or— know, how you how you face challenges or what's in front of you— challenges or what's in front of you eereekw— challenges or what's in front of you eereekw rs— challenges or what's in front of you actually is useful when you beve— you actually is useful when you
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bewe wee— you actually is useful when you bewe you kmew,— you actually is useful when you have you know, you go on into a bebrbeek— have you know, you go on into a bebrbeek kme— have you know, you go on into a political life and— have you know, you go on into a political life and that's why br-s— political life and that's why br-s reekw— political life and that's why it's really important that we get— it's really important that we ger ewersbrw— it's really important that we get diversity in— it's really important that we get diversity in westminster of beebke— get diversity in westminster of beebbe wbe— get diversity in westminster of people who've lived and had emerem— people who've lived and had different experiences and not all different experiences and not ebb ebe— different experiences and not ebb rbe seme— different experiences and not all the same journey through , all the same journey through, wberber— all the same journey through, whether that's— all the same journey through, whether that's eton or oxbridge. kme— whether that's eton or oxbridge. ame se— whether that's eton or oxbridge. ame se — whether that's eton or oxbridge. ame se ber— whether that's eton or oxbridge. and so on. but know the and so on. but they know the brbee— and so on. but they know the brbee ee— and so on. but they know the price of things. _ and so on. but they know the price of things. “rifrzi; price of things. there's not enough people from working class backgrounds in politics. oh, that's true. and diversity ebe— that's true. and diversity across the region as well. not rese— across the region as well. not be mem— across the region as well. not just from london,— across the region as well. not just from london, you know, from mem— just from london, you know, from erem rbe — just from london, you know, from from the regions— just from london, you know, from from the regions outside of bembem— from the regions outside of bemeem mew— from the regions outside of london, they bring a completely emerem— london, they bring a completely different voice. _ london, they bring a completely different voice. and that's why we need— different voice. and that's why we need be— different voice. and that's why we need to-rid_ different voice. and that's why we need to-rid of- different voice. and that's why we need to rid of the house we need to get rid of the house of we need to get rid of the house er beres— we need to get rid of the house er beres eme— we need to get rid of the house of lords and have— we need to get rid of the house of lords and have that regions emb— of lords and have that regions emb-eber— of lords and have that regions and that democratically and nations that democratically ebeeree— and nations that democratically ebeeree eme— and nations that democratically elected and representation of , elected and representation of, you— elected and representation of, you kmew,— elected and representation of, you knew; er— elected and representation of, you know, of the— elected and representation of, you know, of the whole of bmgbemeb— you know, of the whole of england, england and the uk . england, england and the uk. i were— england, england and the uk. i were re— england, england and the uk. i were be eek— england, england and the uk. i want to ask you— england, england and the uk. i want to ask you about- england, england and the uk. want to ask you about what happened to you when you were aged 20 at university. mhm well, i was really lucky to go to well, i was really lucky to go be embwersbrw— well, i was really lucky to go to university and— well, i was really lucky to go to university and i did drama emb— to university and i did drama emb r— to university and i did drama emb r es— to university and i did drama and i was attacked by a stranger in and i was attacked by a stranger be me— and i was attacked by a stranger be me srreer— and i was attacked by a stranger in the street who _ and i was attacked by a stranger in the street who tried to rape be— in the street who tried to rape me. he was caught. he went to bersem— me. he was caught. he went to bersem eme— me. he was caught. he went to bersem emb r— me. he was caught. he went to
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bersem emb r ger— me. he was caught. he went to prison and i got justice. yes. kme— prison and i got justice. yes. ame se— prison and i got justice. yes. and so actually— prison and i got justice. yes. and so actually for a horrendous mergem— and so actually for a horrendous mebeem ,— and so actually for a horrendous mebeem , b,— and so actually for a horrendous incident, it, it— and so actually for a horrendous incident , it, it was— and so actually for a horrendous incident, it, it was a good and so actually for a horrendous incident , it, it was a good news incident, it, it was a good news sreew— incident, it, it was a good news srerw beese— incident, it, it was a good news story because he— incident, it, it was a good news story because he wasn't my besbeme-s— story because he wasn't my husband's friend or my colleague at husband's friend or my colleague er week— husband's friend or my colleague er week er— husband's friend or my colleague er week er e— husband's friend or my colleague at work or a stranger that was eeegm— at work or a stranger that was eeegm .— at work or a stranger that was never caught . you know, it never caught. you know, it eereebbw— never caught. you know, it actually was— never caught. you know, it actually was was i got justice. ber— actually was was i got justice. be r— actually was was i got justice. but i remember— actually was was i got justice. but i remember being in the bebbee— but i remember being in the bebree bebbee— but i remember being in the police police station and a young— police police station and a young wemem— police police station and a young woman coming up to the desk— young woman coming up to the desk wmbsr— young woman coming up to the desk wmbsr r— young woman coming up to the desk whilst i was— young woman coming up to the desk whilst i was leaving beese— desk whilst i was leaving because i'd— desk whilst i was leaving because i'd been there ewembgbb— because i'd been there overnight. and she said, we beme— overnight. and she said, we eeemb ems— overnight. and she said, we found this shoe— overnight. and she said, we found this shoe in our garden eme— found this shoe in our garden emb we— found this shoe in our garden and we heard— found this shoe in our garden and we heard screaming last mgm— and we heard screaming last mgm emb— and we heard screaming last mrgm emb we— and we heard screaming last night and we really worried. and i night and we really worried. and r es— night and we really worried. and r bike,— night and we really worried. and i was like, that's— night and we really worried. and i was like, that's my shoe. what wremg wbrb— i was like, that's my shoe. what was wrong with you? why didn't you was wrong with you? why didn't wee eeme— was wrong with you? why didn't you eeme-sbe— was wrong with you? why didn't you come she said, well, you come out? she said, well, we were-scared and— you come out? she said, well, we were-scared and i- you come out? she said, well, we were scared and i said, were really scared and i said, bree— were really scared and i said, we kme— were really scared and i said, we? and there— were really scared and i said, we? and there was a group of women in a house that heard me rrgmmg— women in a house that heard me rrgmmg-bme— women in a house that heard me fighting life outside and fighting for my life outside and ree— fighting for my life outside and were too scared— fighting for my life outside and were too scared to— fighting for my life outside and were too scared to come out. and i were too scared to come out. and rr-esr— were too scared to come out. and rr-esr rbeegm— were too scared to come out. and r gesr rbeegm er— were too scared to come out. and i just thought at that point, or.— i just thought at that point, 0h, ems— i just thought at that point, 0h, ems bs— i just thought at that point, oh, this is this— i just thought at that point, oh, this is this is terrible , oh, this is this is terrible, mks—emb- oh, this is this is terrible,- this_ and politicise this is hopeless and politicise se— this is hopeless and politicise se m— this is hopeless and politicise be be e— this is hopeless and politicise be be e wew— this is hopeless and politicise me. so in a way ,_ this is hopeless and politicise me. so in a way , whilst it was me. so in a way, whilst it was ebweesbw— me. so in a way, whilst it was obviously horrendous and it was reebbw— obviously horrendous and it was really reegb— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for a— obviously horrendous and it was really tough for a couple of weers— really tough for a couple of weers ebeer— really tough for a couple of years about feeling anxious all
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the years about feeling anxious all rbe rime,— years about feeling anxious all me the, em— years about feeling anxious all the time, um, it— years about feeling anxious all the time, um, it was my, my bebbrbeeb— the time, um, it was my, my political journey— the time, um, it was my, my political journey into the women's movement, into greenham eemme— women's movement, into greenham eemme re— women's movement, into greenham common, to understanding why it bebbemee— common, to understanding why it bebbemeb ,— common, to understanding why it happened , because it was about happened, because it was about ewe— happened, because it was about we se— happened, because it was about we be br— happened, because it was about power. so it was— happened, because it was about power. so it was horrendous . power. so it was horrendous. r-we— power. so it was horrendous. r-we beem— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able to— power. so it was horrendous. i've been able to and this is me— i've been able to and this is me gbew— i've been able to and this is me glory er— i've been able to and this is me glory er br— i've been able to and this is me glory er rr .— i've been able to and this is the glory of it . i've been able the glory of it. i've been able to the glory of it. i've been able re ese— the glory of it. i've been able re mer— the glory of it. i've been able to use that experience to then put— to use that experience to then be me — to use that experience to then ber we seek— to use that experience to then put the safety of— to use that experience to then put the safety of women and gbrbs— put the safety of women and gbrbs er— put the safety of women and grrbs er me— put the safety of women and girls at the heart— put the safety of women and girls at the heart of my police emb— girls at the heart of my police emb erme— girls at the heart of my police and crime plan— girls at the heart of my police and crime plan investing many mbbbbems— and crime plan investing many mbbbbems er— and crime plan investing many millions of pounds into to mekmg— millions of pounds into to mekmg wesr— millions of pounds into to making west yorkshire the safest bbeee— making west yorkshire the safest bbeee re — making west yorkshire the safest bbeee be be — making west yorkshire the safest bbeee be be e— making west yorkshire the safest place to be a woman or a girl rrgmmg— place to be a woman or a girl rrgmmg rer— place to be a woman or a girl fighting for your— place to be a woman or a girl fighting for your life. those are words that— fighting for your life. those are words that you just used . it are words that you just used. it sounds like an absolutely horrific attack. in fact, you described it as the worst thing that you could imagine having happened to you , how you happened to you, how you mentioned that a couple of years after that that things were tough in what sense is it flashbacks ? is it trauma? is it flashbacks? is it trauma? is it sleepless nights ? is it put it sleepless nights? is it put it into your own words? most of us, thank goodness, have never been subject to what you went through. yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean , i wouldn't say : " “r:i;e" c1?" c1?" i mean , i wouldn't say there's
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mean, i wouldn't say there's ebesbbeeks— mean, i wouldn't say there's flashbacks, but— mean, i wouldn't say there's flashbacks, but there was eerrembw— flashbacks, but there wasi certainly—about certainly something about webkmg— certainly something about walking around a corner. bemebeew— walking around a corner. somebody stood there and you r-esr— somebody stood there and you we kmew— somebody stood there and you just knew this— somebody stood there and you just knew this was the moment. rbbs— just knew this was the moment. rms es— just knew this was the moment. rms me— just knew this was the moment. this was the moment that ewewbeew-s— this was the moment that everybody's talked about that weer— everybody's talked about that your mem— everybody's talked about that weer bes— everybody's talked about that your mum has said this, you know this your mum has said this, you know we wee— your mum has said this, you know rms wee sbeebe— your mum has said this, you know this you should just— your mum has said this, you know this you should just need them in this you should just need them m me— this you should just need them be rbe-emb— this you should just need them in the-and run- this you should just need them in the and run away or in the balls and run away or wherever.— in the balls and run away or whatever. -freeze . in the balls and run away or whatever. freeze was whatever. and that freeze was reebbw— whatever. and that freeze was reebbw gerre— whatever. and that freeze was really quite frightening. that i esr— really quite frightening. that i esr reebbw— really quite frightening. that i wasn't really capable of then mekmg— wasn't really capable of then moving because— wasn't really capable of then moving because i just knew that rber-s— moving because i just knew that eber-s wber— moving because i just knew that that's what his— moving because i just knew that that's what his intention was . that's what his intention was. rrber— that's what his intention was. wber reebbw— that's what his intention was. what really helped me , gloria, what really helped me, gloria, r— what really helped me, gloria, r ger— what really helped me, gloria, was i got compensation for the erreek— was i got compensation for the erreek emb— was i got compensation for the erreek emb r— was i got compensation for the attack and i bought a bicycle. kme— attack and i bought a bicycle. ame mem— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then on— attack and i bought a bicycle. and from then on in, i thought, r-m — and from then on in, i thought, rm gemg— and from then on in, i thought, i'm never going to— and from then on in, i thought, i'm never going to walk the srreers— i'm never going to walk the streets again— i'm never going to walk the streets again because that's wbem— streets again because that's when wee-re— streets again because that's when you're most vulnerable. if weere— when you're most vulnerable. if you're on a bike,— when you're most vulnerable. if you're on a bike, you can cycle ewew— you're on a bike, you can cycle ewew emb— you're on a bike, you can cycle ewew emb br— you're on a bike, you can cycle away and it really— you're on a bike, you can cycle away and it really did lift my meee— away and it really did lift my meee eme— away and it really did lift my mood and made— away and it really did lift my mood and made me feel that i eeebb— mood and made me feel that i eeebe wee— mood and made me feel that i could you know,— mood and made me feel that i could you know, respond in a way rber-s— could you know, respond in a way rber-s besbrwe. — could you know, respond in a way that's positive. thank god he eeegm— that's positive. thank god he was caught and— that's positive. thank god he was caught and sentenced first. mere— was caught and sentenced first. mere wee— was caught and sentenced first. were you informed— was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when- was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when he- was caught and sentenced first. were you informed when he was let out? no. no and whether eber-s— let out? no. no and whether eber-s me— let out? no. no and whether that's the process,- let out? no. no and whether that's the process, i- c?’ \r:ir \r:ir and whether that's the process, i don't know
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. ber— that's the process, i don't know . be r— that's the process, i don't know . be r esr— that's the process, i don't know . but i wasn't interested in in in . but i wasn't interested in in be me.— . but i wasn't interested in in m eber. kme— . but i wasn't interested in in in that. and i'm— . but i wasn't interested in in in that. and i'm not interested in that. and i'm not interested m mm — in that. and i'm not interested m mm er— in that. and i'm not interested m mm er ebb— in that. and i'm not interested in him at all. but,— in that. and i'm not interested in him at all. but, you know , i in him at all. but, you know, i r-esr— in him at all. but, you know, i we reeb— in him at all. but, you know, i just reeb rer— in him at all. but, you know, i just feel for all— in him at all. but, you know, i just feel for all those women mer— just feel for all those women be eem-r— just feel for all those women that don't get— just feel for all those women that don't get that justice. and rber-s— that don't get that justice. and eber-s wbw— that don't get that justice. and eber-s wbw br-s— that don't get that justice. and that's why it's really been rmberrem— that's why it's really been important for— that's why it's really been important for me to invest just in independent— important for me to invest just in independent sexual violence ewesers— in independent sexual violence advisors, because— in independent sexual violence advisors, because we know that wbem— advisors, because we know that when ge— advisors, because we know that when women go through this beeess— when women go through this breeess emb— when women go through this process and it's— when women go through this process and it's more often than not women, that— process and it's more often than not women, that the court case is se— not women, that the court case is se bemg— not women, that the court case is se bemg re— not women, that the court case is so long to three,— not women, that the court case is so long to three, four years mer— is so long to three, four years we mew— is so long to three, four years rber rbew gwe— is so long to three, four years that they give up— is so long to three, four years that they give up because mew-re— that they give up because mew-re mew— that they give up because they're they want help for their reeeme — they're they want help for their reeeme mew— they're they want help for their trauma. they want to get rberebw. — trauma. they want to get therapy- they— trauma. they want to get therapy. they want to move on web— therapy. they want to move on wbrb merr— therapy. they want to move on with their life.— therapy. they want to move on with their life. and the waiting mer— with their life. and the waiting means that they— with their life. and the waiting means that they fall away. so an esre— means that they fall away. so an esee er— means that they fall away. so an esee er e— means that they fall away. so an esee er e beve— means that they fall away. so an esfa or a idva sort— means that they fall away. so an esfa or a idva sort of carry you rbreegb— esfa or a idva sort of carry you rbreegb me— esfa or a idva sort of carry you through the process s so that we get through the process s so that we ger berrer— through the process s so that we get better outcomes in west kerksmre,— get better outcomes in west yorkshire, you've _ get better outcomes in west yorkshire, you've got like a meme— yorkshire, you've got like a meme . — yorkshire, you've got like a meme . br— yorkshire, you've got like a friend . if you've- yorkshire, you've got like a friend. �*" yorkshire, you've got like a friend . �*" i“ t friend. if you've been subject to attack, you got the friend, talk you through and be with you all that way. how many all that way. yeah. and how many of those have you? we've got 25. 25. yeah yeah. good. let's talk about everyday sexism. so so the
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hoo ha. when you stood up, you were a shadow secretary of state. you had rushed from an event. you were in the house of commons, you were stood on speaking for the opposition from the front bench . you had quite a the front bench. you had quite a classy dress on it slipped off your shoulder . you literally you your shoulder. you literally you could see a bit of your shoulder. talk us through shoulder. just talk us through the bucha that then ensued . and the bucha that then ensued. and gloria, it was mad. it was t “til“ : and gloria, it was mad. it was mad beese— gloria, it was mad. it was mad beese re— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got a— gloria, it was mad. it was mad because i'd got a broken ankle . because i'd got a broken ankle. bike— because i'd got a broken ankle. bbke wee— because i'd got a broken ankle. brke wee sew. — because i'd got a broken ankle. brke wee sew. r— because i'd got a broken ankle. like you say. i was— because i'd got a broken ankle. like you say. i was at a mesbebems— like you say. i was at a musicians union event. government— musicians union event. government done musicians union event. - government-done something government had done something srebkb— government had done something srebkblr— government had done something srebkblr ger— government had done something srebrelr ger em— government had done something stupid. i got an urgent stupid. so i got an urgent geesrbem— stupid. so i got an urgent geesrrem, ger— stupid. so i got an urgent question, got them to the house, emb— question, got them to the house, emb r— question, got them to the house, emb r es— question, got them to the house, and i was leaning— question, got them to the house, and i was leaning on the eesbereb— and i was leaning on the despatch box— and i was leaning on the despatch box and you say it despatch box and like you say it r-esr— despatch box and like you say it just sbrgbrbw— despatch box and like you say it just slightly fell— despatch box and like you say it just slightly fell further than sbrgbrbw— just slightly fell further than sbrgbrbw eee— just slightly fell further than slightly off the _ just slightly fell further than slightly off the shoulder. and by slightly off the shoulder. and bw me— slightly off the shoulder. and bw rbe rime— slightly off the shoulder. and bw rbe rrmelger— slightly off the shoulder. and by the time got back to my by the time i got back to my embe,— by the time i got back to my embee,|wes— by the time i got back to my office,iwas a— by the time i got back to my office, was a slag, office, i was a slag, a breastfeeding being taken from behind— breastfeeding being taken from behind ee— breastfeeding being taken from behind over a— breastfeeding being taken from behind over a wheelie bin. i ebe— behind over a wheelie bin. i mean the sexual— behind over a wheelie bin. i mean the sexual ization of this memem — mean the sexual ization of this memem se— mean the sexual ization of this memem se mw— mean the sexual ization of this moment. so my response was, oh, wee— moment. so my response was, oh, wee kmew— moment. so my response was, oh, wee kmew ,— moment. so my response was, oh, wee kmew , somb— moment. so my response was, oh, wee kmew , serew, r— moment. so my response was, oh, you know , sorry, i can't answer you know, sorry, i can't answer all you know, sorry, i can't answer ebb er— you know, sorry, i can't answer ebb er wee— you know, sorry, i can't answer ebb er wee .— you know, sorry, i can't answer ebb er wee . ber— you know, sorry, i can't answer all of you . not not— you know, sorry, i can't answer all of you . not not enough time, all of you. not not enough time, but all of you. not not enough time, be wbe— all of you. not not enough time, be wbe kmew— all of you. not not enough time, but who knew you _ all of you. not not enough time, but who knew you could get so emerbemeb— but who knew you could get so emotional over— but who knew you could get so emotional over a— but who knew you could get so emotional over a shoulder? and ems— emotional over a shoulder? and we es— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked up— emotional over a shoulder? and this was picked up on social
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meme.— this was picked up on social mebbe. kme— this was picked up on social media. and then— this was picked up on social media. and then i decided to eeerbem— media. and then i decided to eeerbem me— media. and then i decided to auction the £35— media. and then i decided to auction the £35 asos dress for the auction the £35 asos dress for me breeeebs— auction the £35 asos dress for the proceeds to _ auction the £35 asos dress for the proceeds to go to the girl gebees— the proceeds to go to the girl gerees wbe— the proceeds to go to the girl guides who do— the proceeds to go to the girl guides who do brilliant work on beew— guides who do brilliant work on beew sbemmg— guides who do brilliant work on body shaming for— guides who do brilliant work on body shaming for young girls . body shaming for young girls. kme— body shaming for young girls. me we— body shaming for young girls. and we raised— body shaming for young girls. and we raised £20,200 for that dress — and we raised £20,200 for that dress kme— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's just— and we raised £20,200 for that dress. and it's just like , well, dress. and it's just like, well, you— dress. and it's just like, well, wee kmew,— dress. and it's just like, well, you know, thanks, trolls . you know, thanks, trolls. bee-we — you know, thanks, trolls. you've, you've - you know, thanks, trolls. you've, you've done us a favour mere.— you've, you've done us a favour rbere. rr-s— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite a— you've, you've done us a favour there. it's quite a good thing. rber-s— there. it's quite a good thing. rber-s e— there. it's quite a good thing. that's a really— there. it's quite a good thing. that's a really nice and reserve— that's a really nice and positive way— that's a really nice and positive way to end what's been a positive way to end what's been e brbbbbem— positive way to end what's been a brilliant interview. ”31g a brilliant interview. tracy brebm— a brilliant interview. tracy brabin,-you. my. a brilliant interview. tracy- brabin,-you. my pleasure . brabin, thank you. my pleasure. coming up, it's ann widdecombe . coming up, it's ann widdecombe. were people a bit scared of margaret thatcher, her mps? i think they some were. some sr~rlrer:e”ri;c t ti 37�*s? i think they some were. some were . ber— think they some were. some were . ber eerrembw— think they some were. some were . but certainly she— think they some were. some were . but certainly she was not a ergere— . but certainly she was not a rrgere mer— . but certainly she was not a figure that you— . but certainly she was not a figure that you got pally with eemmg— figure that you got pally with eemmg eb— figure that you got pally with coming up, shailesh vara i remember with— coming up, shailesh vara i remember with my mother queuing in a remember with my mother queuing m e greeeew— remember with my mother queuing m e greeerw srere— remember with my mother queuing in a grocery store and the beebbe— in a grocery store and the people before— in a grocery store and the people before us were served and mere— people before us were served and rbere wee— people before us were served and rbere seme— people before us were served and there were some white people behind— there were some white people behind es— there were some white people behind us and— there were some white people behind us and the storekeeper rese— behind us and the storekeeper just rgmereb— behind us and the storekeeper just rgmeree es— behind us and the storekeeper just ignored us and served them ebrsr— just ignored us and served them rbrsr emb— just ignored us and served them first and then— just ignored us and served them first and then came back to us. kme— first and then came back to us. me wee— first and then came back to us. and you accepted _ first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. - first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. you- first and then came back to us. and you accepted this. you know, this was normal .
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dealing with these institutions . you're listening to gb news kebbe— . you're listening to gb news kebbe .— . you're listening to gb news kebbe . kme— you're listening to gb news radio . and widdecombe, one of radio. and widdecombe, one of the radio. and widdecombe, one of me mesr— radio. and widdecombe, one of the most radical,— radio. and widdecombe, one of the most radical, sizeable faces in the most radical, sizeable faces m brbrbsb— the most radical, sizeable faces in british politics— the most radical, sizeable faces in british politics throughout our lifetime. _ in british politics throughout our lifetime. t: i“ “98 in british politics throughout our lifetime. t: i“ ”98" our lifetime. elected in 1987 as a conservative mp who stayed in parliament till 2010. we're going to talk about your reflections on that period and some thoughts about where we are today. some thoughts about where we are today . margaret thatcher and today. margaret thatcher and john major , what strikes you john major, what strikes you about those two characters who were prime ministers, your prime ministers, during your tenure ? ministers, during your tenure? they were very different people. me— they were very different people. the comparison— they were very different people. the comparison i— they were very different people. the comparison i always make is in the comparison i always make is m me— the comparison i always make is be me wew— the comparison i always make is be me wew mew— the comparison i always make is in the way they used to come rbreegb— in the way they used to come rbreegb me— in the way they used to come through the lobbies. now i'm eber— through the lobbies. now i'm sure that everybody watching mks— sure that everybody watching rbbs—berl sure that everybody watching l rbbs—ber rbe this programme knows, but the way— this programme knows, but the wew-bers— this programme knows, but the wew-mrs-bs- this programme knows, but the way-mps-is there- this programme knows, but the way mps is there are way that mps vote is there are me— way that mps vote is there are two-corridors— way that mps vote is there are two corridors called the two long corridors called the bebbbes— two long corridors called the bebbbes em— two long corridors called the lobbies on either— two long corridors called the lobbies on either side of the member— lobbies on either side of the ebember-wee— lobbies on either side of the chamber-you go- lobbies on either side of the chamber you go at one lobbies on either side of the- chamber-you golat one end chamber and you go in at one end eme— chamber and you go in at one end emb-webk— chamber and you go in at one end emb-webk ebb— chamber and you go in at one end and-walk all the— chamber and you go in at one end and walk all the way and you walk all the way rbreegb,— and you walk all the way through,-your- and you walk all the way through,-your at the through, given your name at the emer,— through, given your name at the emer-men — through, given your name at the other,-then you— through, given your name at the other, then you voted and other, and then you voted and you— other, and then you voted and wee-geemer— other, and then you voted and wee-geerrer ee- other, and then you voted and you-quarter of an- other, and then you voted and you quarter of an hour to you have a quarter of an hour to
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get you have a quarter of an hour to ger rbreegb— you have a quarter of an hour to get through lobbies. so get through the lobbies. so mebebw— get through the lobbies. so. nobody—unless nobody dashes through unless mew-we— nobody dashes through unless mew-we ger— nobody dashes through unless mew-we ger e— nobody dashes through unless they've got a specific reason. rwerwbeew-s— they've got a specific reason. everybody's around everybody's standing around beekmg—rerl looking around, looking for semebeew— looking around, looking fori semebebw—re looking around, looking for- somebody_to take somebody who they want to take semerbmg— somebody who they want to take semerbmg-er,— somebody who they want to take something or, know, something up with or, you know, rssee— something up with or, you know, bsseelmereeb— something up with or, you know, issue mutual interest or issue of mutual interest or wberewer— issue of mutual interest or wberewer-be- issue of mutual interest or- whatever- be, lthey're whatever it might be, or they're r-esr— whatever it might be, or they're r-esr-re— whatever it might be, or they're r-esr-re-e- whatever it might be, or they're just-to-a drink- just looking to have a drink wbrb— just looking to have a drink wbrb wee.— just looking to have a drink with you. they're just looking eeemb— with you. they're just looking around. margaret thatcher around. when margaret thatcher eeme—berl came through the lobbies, her esee— came through the lobbies, her eseb re— came through the lobbies, her used to -front_ came through the lobbies, her used to -front of- came through the lobbies, her used to front of her and used to go in front of her and it used to go in front of her and b weebb— used to go in front of her and b weebe be— used to go in front of her and it would be like— used to go in front of her and it would be like the parting of the it would be like the parting of rbe-sees— it would be like the parting of the-seas and— it would be like the parting of the seas and then moses the red seas and then moses weebb— the red seas and then moses weebe eeme— the red seas and then moses would come through and vote . would come through and vote. weem— would come through and vote. wbem rem— would come through and vote. when john major— would come through and vote. when john major came through the bebbw. — when john major came through the bebbw. rm— when john major came through the bebbw. r-m see— when john major came through the lobby. i'm sure his— when john major came through the lobby. i'm sure his pps was mere,— lobby. i'm sure his pps was mere, ber— lobby. i'm sure his pps was there, but that's— lobby. i'm sure his pps was there, but that's a private seerereew. — there, but that's a private secretary. yes. - there, but that's a private secretary. “bis yes. yeah, it's secretary. yes. yes. yeah, it's weer— secretary. yes. yes. yeah, it's your parliamentary— secretary. “bis yes. yeah, it's your parliamentary aide, besbeebbw— your parliamentary aide, besbeebbw .— your parliamentary aide, basically . and john used to come basically. and john used to come rbreegb— basically. and john used to come rbreegb emb— basically. and john used to come through and he'd— basically. and john used to come through and he'd say to one bese— through and he'd say to one bese greer— through and he'd say to one person, great speech, you made the person, great speech, you made me emer— person, great speech, you made the other night.— person, great speech, you made the other night. he'd say to semebebw— the other night. he'd say to somebody else,— the other night. he'd say to somebody else, how's your wife? is somebody else, how's your wife? rs-eer— somebody else, how's your wife? is-outlhospital?- somebody else, how's your wife? is-outlhospital? is- is she out of hospital? is ewerwrmmg— is she out of hospital? is everything okay? he went everything okay? and he went rbreegb— everything okay? and he went rbreegb bbke— everything okay? and he went through like that. even at the bebgm— through like that. even at the bebgmlebb— through like that. even at the height all pressure on height of all the pressure on his height of all the pressure on mks—wbem- height of all the pressure on mks—wbem wel height of all the pressure oni his—when we had height of all the pressure on- his_when we had no his premiership when we had no meg-emb,— his premiership when we had no meg-errrw, wbem— his premiership when we had no majority, when we— his premiership when we had no majority, when we were riven eberr— majority, when we were riven eberr bw— majority, when we were riven eberr bw rbe — majority, when we were riven apart by the arguments over breesmem,— apart by the arguments over maastricht, we— apart by the arguments over maastricht, we were beset by sbeee— maastricht, we were beset by sleaze scandals. _ maastricht, we were beset by sleaze scandals. everybody wemreb— sleaze scandals. everybody wemreb ebb— sleaze scandals. everybody wanted rid of— sleaze scandals. everybody wanted rid of us because we'd been— wanted rid of us because we'd been-rer— wanted rid of us because we'd beem-rer e— wanted rid of us because we'd been -for a record - wanted rid of us because we'd been for a record four been there for a record four rerms— been there for a record four rerms-rbem-
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been there for a record four terms.-then ,- been there for a record four terms.-then , he- been there for a record four terms. then , he never came terms. even then, he never came rbreegb— terms. even then, he never came rbreegb emw— terms. even then, he never came through any other— terms. even then, he never came through any other that through any other way that i rbmk— through any other way that i rbmk rebbs— through any other way that i think tells you _ through any other way that i think tells you a lot. well, beebbe— think tells you a lot. well, beebbe ee— think tells you a lot. well, people are scared of people are a bit scared of rrergerer— people are a bit scared of margaret thatcher. ti people are a bit scared of margaret thatcher. jr�*if�*r�*s margaret thatcher. her mps, as i bbmk— margaret thatcher. her mps, as i think they some were or some were. but certainly she was not a were. but certainly she was not erbgere— were. but certainly she was not eergere mer— were. but certainly she was not a figure that you— wrrriii but certainly she was not a figure that you got pally wbrb. — a figure that you got pally with. interesting “j r: r:rir with. interesting did she do men— with. interesting did she do small talk? she did small talk with close friends , i think. i with close friends, i think. i think i'm not sure . you may with close friends, i think. i- think i'm not sure . you may have think i'm not sure. you may have all think i'm not sure. you may have ebb beem— think i'm not sure. you may have ebb beem weew— think i'm not sure. you may have all been very serious talk, but on all been very serious talk, but em ebe— all been very serious talk, but on the whole,— all been very serious talk, but on the whole, no,— all been very serious talk, but on the whole, no, she wasn't she esr— on the whole, no, she wasn't she esr e— on the whole, no, she wasn't she wasn't a particularly sociable bese— wasn't a particularly sociable bese sbe— wasn't a particularly sociable person. she was— wasn't a particularly sociable person. she was focussed on her beer-eer- — person. she was focussed on her beer-eee. sbe— person. she was focussed on her project. she knew— person. she was focussed on her project. she knew what she wemree— project. she knew what she wemreb re— project. she knew what she wanted to do _ project. she knew what she wanted to do and by gum she did it wanted to do and by gum she did br em— wanted to do and by gum she did b emb eber— wanted to do and by gum she did it and that was— wanted to do and by gum she did it and that was what she was reeessee— it and that was what she was focussed on. _ it and that was what she was focussed on. so— it and that was what she was focussed on. so you left the conservative party after all that service in 20 1955 years, i'd been a member of the conservative party. i joined at 16 as a conservative party. i joined at re es e weemg— i joined at 16 as a young conservative. �*vwr�*y 16 as a young conservative. why on 16 as a young conservative. why em eerrb— 16 as a young conservative. why em eerrb ebe— 16 as a young conservative. why em eerrb ebe wee— 16 as a young conservative. why on earth did you leave any body who can recall those awful years when we'd had the referendum? but nobody really wanted to eereebbw— but nobody really wanted to eereebbw ber— but nobody really wanted to actually put the _ but nobody really wanted to actually put the result into breerbsee— actually put the result into practise? and _ actually put the result into practise? and then we had the
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ebseberebw— practise? and then we had the absolutely hopeless premiership of absolutely hopeless premiership er rberese— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may i— absolutely hopeless premiership of theresa may i suddenly rbeegm,— of theresa may i suddenly rbeegm, bemg— of theresa may i suddenly thought, hang on, this is as it mem— thought, hang on, this is as it been es— thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. _ thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. in— thought, hang on, this is as it then was, 2019. in 2016, we made mks— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made we beebsbem— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made this decision and— then was, 2019. in 2016, we made this decision and nobody there is eereebbw— this decision and nobody there is actually putting it into emeer. — is actually putting it into effect. and _ is actually putting it into effect. and i— is actually putting it into effect. and i was so angry about it . effect. and i was so angry about b . abse— effect. and i was so angry about b . abse, r— effect. and i was so angry about b . abse, r es— effect. and i was so angry about it . also, i was angry about the it. also, i was angry about the berreweb— it. also, i was angry about the berreweb ee— it. also, i was angry about the betrayal of afghan interpreters , wbbeb — betrayal of afghan interpreters , wbbeb ger— betrayal of afghan interpreters , which got worse as time went on , which got worse as time went em eme— , which got worse as time went em emb r— , which got worse as time went on and i thought,— , which got worse as time went on and i thought, no, we voted brews— on and i thought, no, we voted beekbr. r— on and i thought, no, we voted beekbr. r wem— on and i thought, no, we voted brexit. i want brexit concerns . brexit. i want brexit concerns. bwes— brexit. i want brexit concerns. bwes eer— brexit. i want brexit concerns. lives aren't going— brexit. i want brexit concerns. lives aren't going to give us brews— lives aren't going to give us beekbr. se— lives aren't going to give us beekbr. be r— lives aren't going to give us brexit. so i joined the brexit berrw. — brexit. so i joined the brexit rerrw. mew— brexit. so i joined the brexit party. they have— brexit. so i joined the brexit party. they have now. ' “r: party. they have now. and rberese— party. they have now. and rberese brew.— party. they have now. and theresa may, my goodness , it theresa may, my goodness, it seems like a lifetime ago . boris seems like a lifetime ago. boris johnson and liz truss, rishi sunak at any point did you think, oh, actually i quite like this one. maybe, maybe i should go back to home? no, no. i mean, you say, oh, you know,— grir t , \rir i mean, you say, oh, you know, they've beme— you say, oh, you know, they've eeme br— you say, oh, you know, they've eeme b mew— you say, oh, you know, they've done it now, they've done brexit mew-bembem— done it now, they've done brexit now northern ireland is now really northern ireland is srbbb— now really northern ireland is srbbb m— now really northern ireland is srbbb be me— now really northern ireland is still in the single market beese— still in the single market because of— still in the single market because of the situation in berrbem— because of the situation in northern ireland. we're still sebr-eer— northern ireland. we're still sebr-eer-e- northern ireland. we're still sebr-eer-e ber- northern ireland. we're still subject-a lot of- northern ireland. we're still subject a lot of eu
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subject to quite a lot of eu lawr_ subject to quite a lot of eu bew, wmeb— subject to quite a lot of eu law, which shouldn't be law, which we shouldn't be sebr-eer— law, which we shouldn't be sebr-eerlemw— law, which we shouldn't be subject-any if- law, which we shouldn't be subject any if we'd actually subject to any if we'd actually bem— subject to any if we'd actually bee-lemm— subject to any if we'd actually left. don't consider that left. i don't consider that beekm— left. i don't consider that brexit-done- left. i don't consider that brexit-done in. left. i don't consider that- brexit-done in anything brexit has been done in anything but brexit has been done in anything be meme— brexit has been done in anything be meme-wee— brexit has been done in anything but name. you know , given but name. but you know, given wbee— but name. but you know, given wbere we— but name. but you know, given where we are now,— but name. but you know, given where we are now, and i always sew— where we are now, and i always sew mks— where we are now, and i always sew rms bers— where we are now, and i always sew ems, ber-s rew— where we are now, and i always say this, let's try to _ where we are now, and i always say this, let's try to take maximum advantage of where we are maximum advantage of where we rerber— maximum advantage of where we rerber mem— maximum advantage of where we are rather than lamenting that it are rather than lamenting that b besm-r— are rather than lamenting that it hasn't been— are rather than lamenting that it hasn't been done and it besm-r— it hasn't been done and it besm-r se— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no,— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no, i— it hasn't been done and it hasn't so no, i don't expect me to hasn't so no, i don't expect me be be— hasn't so no, i don't expect me to be overwhelmed— hasn't so no, i don't expect me to be overwhelmed with admiration.— to be overwhelmed with admiration. and then what do we do admiration. and then what do we be wbrb— admiration. and then what do we be wbrb me— admiration. and then what do we do with the afghan— admiration. and then what do we do with the afghan interpreters? left do with the afghan interpreters? beer br— do with the afghan interpreters? beer b rbgbr— do with the afghan interpreters? beer rr rbgbr eb— do with the afghan interpreters? left it right up to— do with the afghan interpreters? left it right up to the last mmere— left it right up to the last minute when— left it right up to the last minute when the taliban was eereebbw— minute when the taliban was actually sweeping back then, had actually sweeping back then, had eebeerbe— actually sweeping back then, had a chaotic attempt— actually sweeping back then, had a chaotic attempt at a rescue , a chaotic attempt at a rescue, wmeb— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, wbbeb we— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, which we should— a chaotic attempt at a rescue, which we should have been doing over years, over years, bbrerebbw — over years, over years, literally chaotic attempt at a beer— literally chaotic attempt at a rescue left so— literally chaotic attempt at a rescue left so many behind. some of rescue left so many behind. some er mem— rescue left so many behind. some er rbem ebeb— rescue left so many behind. some of them fled into— rescue left so many behind. some of them fled into pakistan from wbbeb— of them fled into pakistan from wbbeb we— of them fled into pakistan from which we have— of them fled into pakistan from which we have not— of them fled into pakistan from which we have not taken them. kme— which we have not taken them. ame br— which we have not taken them. mg m es— which we have not taken them. mg m e— which we have not taken them. and it was a total— which we have not taken them. and it was a total betrayal . and it was a total betrayal. they— and it was a total betrayal. rbew ber— and it was a total betrayal. they put their— and it was a total betrayal. they put their lives on the line for they put their lives on the line rer brbrem— they put their lives on the line for britain and— they put their lives on the line for britain and we— they put their lives on the line for britain and we said not mreresreeb— for britain and we said not interested. we— for britain and we said not interested. we didn't use those weeds— interested. we didn't use those werbs ,— interested. we didn't use those werbs , ber— interested. we didn't use those words , but that— interested. we didn't use those words , but that was our words, but that was our errbreee. — words, but that was our attitude. you- words, but that was our attitude. you were in parliament,- attitude. you were in parliament, obviously in 1997. vee— parliament, obviously in 1997. you come— parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've— parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've talked- parliament, obviously in 1997. you could you've talked about john major's difficulty as as as premier . the writing was john major's difficulty as as as premier. the writing was on john major's difficulty as as as
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premier . the writing was on the premier. the writing was on the wall. absolutely we all knew me.— wall. absolutely we all knew eber. reeb— wall. absolutely we all knew that. yeah. any— ' cricyr we all knew that. yeah. any parallels with wbee-s— that. yeah. any parallels with what's happening today, do you rmmk— what's happening today, do you rbmk me— what's happening today, do you think the writing— what's happening today, do you think the writing is on the wall mer— think the writing is on the wall be e— think the writing is on the wall that a labour— think the writing is on the wall that a labour government is eerreeb— that a labour government is eerrebr, bsm-r— that a labour government is corrupt, isn't it?— that a labour government is corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john brew-er— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john brew-er bee— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major bee e— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major had a tiny— corrupt, isn't it? i mean, john major had a tiny little majorityr_ major had a tiny little majority, you know, which greeeebbw— majority, you know, which. greeeebbw—rbe gradually over time with the errrbrbem — gradually over time with the attrition - death i gradually over time with the attrition death and gradually over time with the- attrition-death and by attrition caused by death and by ebeerbems— attrition caused by death and by elections went— attrition caused by death and by elections went down to, you kmew,— elections went down to, you knew; ebeer— elections went down to, you know, about two. - elections went down to, you know, about two. he had a mmeseebe— know, about two. he had a minuscule majority and boris m wbrb— minuscule majority and boris came in with a— minuscule majority and boris came in with a majority of 88 0h— came in with a majority of 88 or, eme— came in with a majority of 88 or, emb mesr— came in with a majority of 88 oh, and most of— came in with a majority of 88 oh, and most of that majority is srbbb— oh, and most of that majority is srbbb mere— oh, and most of that majority is srbbb rbere .— oh, and most of that majority is still there . it's— oh, and most of that majority is still there . it's been slightly still there. it's been slightly reeeeeeb — still there. it's been slightly reduced. most— still there. it's been slightly reduced. most of it's still mere.— reduced. most of it's still there. this— reduced. most of it's still there. this is— reduced. most of it's still there. this is a- reduced. most of it's still there. this is a government wmeb— there. this is a government which should— there. this is a government which should be able to do emwrmmg— which should be able to do emwrmmg br— which should be able to do anything it-to- which should be able to do anything it to do and it's anything it wants to do and it's beeebess— anything it wants to do and it's bebebess. kme— anything it wants to do and it's hopeless. and what i now have re— hopeless. and what i now have be me— hopeless. and what i now have come to the conclusion and i've resbsreb— come to the conclusion and i've resbsree rms— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for a— come to the conclusion and i've resisted this for a long time, ber— resisted this for a long time, be r— resisted this for a long time, be r rbmk— resisted this for a long time, but i think now— resisted this for a long time, but i think now it's inevitable mere— but i think now it's inevitable rbere bs— but i think now it's inevitable rbere is e— but i think now it's inevitable there is a fault— but i think now it's inevitable there is a fault line in the conservative— there is a fault line in the conservative party over europe, wmeb— conservative party over europe, wbbeb bs— conservative party over europe, wbbeb rs mer— conservative party over europe, which is not going— conservative party over europe, which is not going to go away. rr-s— which is not going to go away. rr-s rese— which is not going to go away. rr-s tesr mer— which is not going to go away. it's just not going— which is not going to go away. it's just not going to go away. it's just not going to go away. r meem— it's just not going to go away. r r— it's just not going to go away. i mean, i think— it's just not going to go away. i mean, i think everybody thought— i mean, i think everybody thought,-the- i mean, i think everybody thought, the referendum thought, well, the referendum wbbb— thought, well, the referendum wbbb serrbe — thought, well, the referendum will settle it.— thought, well, the referendum will settle it. then when the reberemeem— will settle it. then when the referendum -way. referendum went the way they weer— weren't expecting, they thought, webb—gerl well, actually, when we do get beekm— well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll_ well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll-it.- well, actually, when we do get brexit, that'll it. the brexit, that'll settle it. the ergemem— brexit, that'll settle it. the ergemem bs— brexit, that'll settle it. the argument is still there. i think it
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argument is still there. i think b bs— argument is still there. i think b is rime— argument is still there. i think b is rbme rer— argument is still there. i think it is time for another right of eemre— it is time for another right of eemrre berrw. — it is time for another right of centre party. why- it is time for another right of centre party. rwy centre party. why is reform of which you are a member not cutting through? if that were the case? oh well, you can't reebbw— the case? oh well, you can't really complain.— t“ oh well, you can't really complain. we're at 8% in the really complain. we're at 8% in me bebbs— really complain. we're at 8% in me bebbs mew— really complain. we're at 8% in the polls now for— really complain. we're at 8% in the polls now for tiny party. the polls now for a tiny party. kee— the polls now for a tiny party. kee kmew— the polls now for a tiny party. you know that's— the polls now for a tiny party. you know that's relatively new. eber-s— you know that's relatively new. rber-s mer— you know that's relatively new. that's not bad— you know that's relatively new. that's not bad going actually . that's not bad going actually. kme— that's not bad going actually. ame r— that's not bad going actually. ame r rbmk— that's not bad going actually. ame r rbmk bw— that's not bad going actually. and i think by the time we have beeper— and i think by the time we have breber bebreres— and i think by the time we have proper policies in— and i think by the time we have proper policies in place and mer— proper policies in place and me ebwews— proper policies in place and that always takes time. you eem-r— that always takes time. you eem-r be— that always takes time. you don't do that— that always takes time. you don't do that on— that always takes time. you don't do that on the hoof. by me— don't do that on the hoof. by me me— don't do that on the hoof. by rbe rbme we— don't do that on the hoof. by the time we have— don't do that on the hoof. by the time we have proper policies in the time we have proper policies m placer— the time we have proper policies m bbeee, wmeb— the time we have proper policies in place, which will be well berere— in place, which will be well berere rbe — in place, which will be well before the next— in place, which will be well before the next election, added to before the next election, added re-eeer— before the next election, added re-reer mer— before the next election, added to -fact that unlike - before the next election, added to fact that unlike the to the fact that unlike the beekm— to the fact that unlike the beekbr-we - to the fact that unlike the. brexit-we-standing to the fact that unlike the- brexit-we-standing in brexit party, we are standing in eweew— brexit party, we are standing in ewerw smgbe— brexit party, we are standing in every single seat— brexit party, we are standing in every single seat except berrbem— every single seat except northern ireland. we're standing in northern ireland. we're standing m-smgbe— northern ireland. we're standing m-smgbe seer.— northern ireland. we're standing in-single seat. i- northern ireland. we're standing in single seat. i think in every single seat. i think mer— in every single seat. i think me we— in every single seat. i think that we will— in every single seat. i think that we will get— in every single seat. i think that we will get cut through. r-we— that we will get cut through. be me— that we will get cut through. i've no doubt— that we will get cut through. i've no doubt about that. now, rm— i've no doubt about that. now, r-m mer— i've no doubt about that. now, rm mer sewmg— i've no doubt about that. now, i'm not saying we're going to be swebr— i'm not saying we're going to be swebr egem— i'm not saying we're going to be swebr eberr. rm— i'm not saying we're going to be swept apart. i'm not that swept apart. i'm not quite that ebrbmbsrbe. — swept apart. i'm not quite that ebrrmbsrbe. r— swept apart. i'm not quite that optimistic. i think— swept apart. i'm not quite that optimistic. i think it quite bbkebw— optimistic. i think it quite brkebw wbbb— optimistic. i think it quite likely will hold the balance of ewe— likely will hold the balance of power. -whatever - likely will hold the balance of power. whatever we do, we power. but whatever we do, we wbbb— power. but whatever we do, we wbbb bre— power. but whatever we do, we wbbb free e— power. but whatever we do, we will fire a tremendous warning sber— will fire a tremendous warning sber eeress— will fire a tremendous warning shot across the _ will fire a tremendous warning shot across the bows of the conservative _ shot across the bows of the conservative party, which is wber— conservative party, which is we me— conservative party, which is what the brexit— conservative party, which is what the brexit party did in the reeebeem— what the brexit party did in the european elections in in 2019 wbem— european elections in in 2019 when we— european elections in in 2019 when we swept— european elections in in 2019 when we swept the board just
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swebr— when we swept the board just swebr me— when we swept the board just swept the board— when we swept the board just swept the board that sent the emessege — swept the board that sent the emessege ger— swept the board that sent the message get brexit done . mirii message get brexit done. more mem— message get brexit done. more from km— message get brexit done. more from ann widdecombe after the break. and i didn't go for the reke— break. and i didn't go for the reke rem.— break. and i didn't go for the reke rem. r— break. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never— and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never had any tan at ebb— fake tan. i never had any tan at ebb kme— fake tan. i never had any tan at ebb ame r— fake tan. i never had any tan at all. and i never— fake tan. i never had any tan at all. and i never had eyelash eremsbems — all. and i never had eyelash extensions. i— all. and i never had eyelash extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as— extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it— extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it was possible to keep— as normal as it was possible to keep emwrmmg— as normal as it was possible to keep emwrmmg em— as normal as it was possible to keep anything on. strictly come bememg— keep anything on. strictly come bememg .—
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people's channel. britain's news . ebemmeb— . channel i so- . channel so when you were elected to parliament at us, 94% of mps were men. we've come a long way since then . do you think since then. do you think parliament has improved because it looks a bit more like britain? no, i think it's gone me— britain? no, i think it's gone rbe eseeb— britain? no, i think it's gone the exact opposite- “7 no, i think it's gone the exact opposite way. i think eber— the exact opposite way. i think that parliament— the exact opposite way. i think that parliament far from rmbrewmg,— that parliament far from rmbrewmg, bs— that parliament far from improving, is now a very, very mme— improving, is now a very, very rmrb rere— improving, is now a very, very third rate calibre— improving, is now a very, very third rate calibre indeed. when i third rate calibre indeed. when r beek— third rate calibre indeed. when r beek er— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some of— third rate calibre indeed. when i look at some of the big people mer— i look at some of the big people be wee— i look at some of the big people that were there _ i look at some of the big people that were there in— i look at some of the big people that were there in my time, i mean on both— that were there in my time, i mean on both sides of the house, bers— mean on both sides of the house, ber-s beek— mean on both sides of the house,
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ber-s beek er— mean on both sides of the house, let's look at the— mean on both sides of the house, let's look at the women. let's beek— let's look at the women. let's beek er— let's look at the women. let's beek er me— let's look at the women. let's look at the women. you had memer,— look at the women. you had rbereber, wee — look at the women. you had thatcher, you had betty beerbreweb— thatcher, you had betty. boothroyd, - shirley boothroyd, you had shirley rrbbbbems— boothroyd, you had shirley williams, barbara williams, you had barbara eesrbe.—bbg- williams, you had barbara. castle. _big figures williams, you had barbara- castle. _big figures , castle. these were big figures, weew— castle. these were big figures, veew ebe— castle. these were big figures, werw ebbe, weew— castle. these were big figures, very able, very capable . now very able, very capable. now wee-e— very able, very capable. now wee ger— very able, very capable. now wee ger em— very able, very capable. now you've got an awful lot of mmbskms— you've got an awful lot of miniskirts, but— you've got an awful lot of miniskirts, but not much talent . kme— miniskirts, but not much talent . ame r— miniskirts, but not much talent . ame r rbmk— miniskirts, but not much talent . and i think that— miniskirts, but not much talent . and i think that was the way mer— . and i think that was the way be es— . and i think that was the way be eee— . and i think that was the way that was due to— . and i think that was the way that was due to the way that reebbememr— that was due to the way that parliament changed. i'm all for more women in— parliament changed. i'm all for more women in parliament, but mew—mere— more women in parliament, but mew—mere em- more women in parliament, but they there on exactly they got to get there on exactly they got to get there on exactly be seme— they got to get there on exactly the same basis— they got to get there on exactly the same basis as— they got to get there on exactly the same basis as the men. mew-we— the same basis as the men. rbew-we ger— the same basis as the men. rbew-we ger re— the same basis as the men. they've got to get there by beermg— they've got to get there by beermgirbe— they've got to get there by beating the competition and beating all the competition and bese— beating all the competition and rbrsr er— beating all the competition and rbrsr er ebb— beating all the competition and first of all, the— beating all the competition and first of all, the labour party a ebembemee— first of all, the labour party a abandoned that— first of all, the labour party a abandoned that stand and ebembemee— abandoned that stand and abandoned merit in favour of all women shortlists.— abandoned merit in favour of all women shortlists. and then the eemsewerwe— women shortlists. and then the conservative party— women shortlists. and then the conservative party with cameron's a—list about brandende mem— cameron's a—list about brandende memr m— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour of— cameron's a—list about brandende merit in favour of equal numbers on merit in favour of equal numbers em me— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists .— merit in favour of equal numbers on the shortlists . and in the on the shortlists. and in the em— on the shortlists. and in the emb beebbe— on the shortlists. and in the end people were— on the shortlists. and in the end people were getting into reebbemem— end people were getting into parliament who— end people were getting into parliament who frankly wouldn't beve— parliament who frankly wouldn't bewe ger— parliament who frankly wouldn't bewe ger mere— parliament who frankly wouldn't have got there if— parliament who frankly wouldn't have got there if they'd had to do have got there if they'd had to be wber— have got there if they'd had to be we ebe— have got there if they'd had to do what the rest— have got there if they'd had to do what the rest of us had to go,— do what the rest of us had to be, wbbeb— do what the rest of us had to do, which was— do what the rest of us had to do, which was compete on a level playing— do, which was compete on a level bbewmg rrebb— do, which was compete on a level playing field with— do, which was compete on a level playing field with the men. when weere— playing field with the men. when wee em rem— playing field with the men. when wee em we, e— playing field with the men. when you're an mp, a female mp, and weer— you're an mp, a female mp, and weer mere-s— you're an mp, a female mp, and your there's only— you're an mp, a female mp, and your there's only 6% in the
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beese— your there's only 6% in the beese ee— your there's only 6% in the house of commons, as do people. did house of commons, as do people. we weer— house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues— house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues treat- house of commons, as do people. did your colleagues treat you - did your colleagues treat you those tiny number of women differently? were you subject to no , no. i mean, i went into no, no. i mean, i went into reebbememr— i mean, i went into parliament knowing that i was an mp. parliament knowing that i was an mm b— parliament knowing that i was an mm b wem-r— parliament knowing that i was an mp. i didn't regard— parliament knowing that i was an mp. i didn't regard myself as a mb.— mp. i didn't regard myself as a mm b— mp. i didn't regard myself as a woman mp. i was— mp. i didn't regard myself as a woman mp. i was an mp who bebbemee— woman mp. i was an mp who bebbemee re— woman mp. i was an mp who bebbemee be be— woman mp. i was an mp who happened to be a— woman mp. i was an mp who happened to be a woman. that was no more important— happened to be a woman. that was no more important than the fact mer— no more important than the fact be r— no more important than the fact be r es— no more important than the fact be r em— no more important than the fact that i was an mp— no more important than the fact that i was an mp who happened to be-eme— that i was an mp who happened to be-emb rer— that i was an mp who happened to be-and fat rather— that i was an mp who happened to be and fat rather than be short and fat rather than rebb— be short and fat rather than rebb eme— be short and fat rather than tall and -you - be short and fat rather than tall and you know, it was tall and thin. you know, it was r-esr— tall and thin. you know, it was we e— tall and thin. you know, it was just e bbwsreeb— tall and thin. you know, it was just a physical fact of life. ber— just a physical fact of life. be r— just a physical fact of life. be r es— just a physical fact of life. but i was an— just a physical fact of life. but i was an mp, i was doing an bers— but i was an mp, i was doing an mes-r— but i was an mp, i was doing an rrrs-r es— but i was an mp, i was doing an mps i was competing in the mps job. i was competing in the bees— mps job. i was competing in the mps environment— mps job. i was competing in the mps environment and i did all i beg— mps environment and i did all i bee-be,— mps environment and i did all i melee-me— mps environment and i did all i had.do,.the things- mps environment and i did all i had do, the things that had to do, all the things that me— had to do, all the things that me me— had to do, all the things that the men were— had to do, all the things that the men were doing. and i think mer— the men were doing. and i think that determines— the men were doing. and i think that determines how you're reeeree— that determines how you're treated-went- that determines how you're- treated _wentlnever treated because i went in never ekbeermg— treated because i went in never ekbeermglbe— treated because i went in never expecting be treated any expecting to be treated any emerembw— expecting to be treated any differently men, expecting to be treated any- differently-men, never differently from the men, never bewmg— differently from the men, never bewmg em— differently from the men, never having an issue— differently from the men, never having an issue with the fact mer— having an issue with the fact rber—ree— having an issue with the fact rber—ree rew- having an issue with the fact. that—too few women. that there were too few women. ber— that there were too few women. berlremember— that there were too few women. but remember vividly shortly that there were too few women. but allnember vividly shortly that there were too few women. but all the ber vividly shortly that there were too few women. but all the blairvidly shortly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes hortly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes got ly that there were too few women. but all the blair babes got in after all the blair babes got in 101 after all the blair babes got in rorlrbem— after all the blair babes got in rorlrbem r— after all the blair babes got in 101-them, i might- after all the blair babes got in 101 them, i might well 101 of them, i might as well beve— 101 of them, i might as well bewe beb— 101 of them, i might as well have had dalmatians, quite have had 101 dalmatians, quite bemesrbw,— have had 101 dalmatians, quite bemesrbw, bor— have had 101 dalmatians, quite honestly, 101 of— have had 101 dalmatians, quite honestly, 101 of them all came in honestly, 101 of them all came m-kmb— honestly, 101 of them all came m-kme ebeer- honestly, 101 of them all came. in _and about-months in at once. and about six months ember— in at once. and about six months ember-embed,— in at once. and about six months after-arrived, one- in at once. and about six months after-arrived, one of- in at once. and about six months after arrived, one of them after they arrived, one of them eb— after they arrived, one of them we re— after they arrived, one of them we be me— after they arrived, one of them came up to me in— after they arrived, one of them came up to me in a corridor and sbe— came up to me in a corridor and sbe sere— came up to me in a corridor and sbe sem-kme- came up to me in a corridor and she said-anne, isn't- came up to me in a corridor and she said anne, isn't it she said to me, anne, isn't it bembbe— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how the— she said to me, anne, isn't it horrible how the men are so rude
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to horrible how the men are so rude re ese— horrible how the men are so rude re ese kme— horrible how the men are so rude re ese ame r— horrible how the men are so rude to us? and i said,— horrible how the men are so rude to us? and i said, yes. and ism-r— to us? and i said, yes. and bsm-r br— to us? and i said, yes. and isn't it horrible— to us? and i said, yes. and isn't it horrible how they're so reee— isn't it horrible how they're so reee re— isn't it horrible how they're so reee re eeeb— isn't it horrible how they're so rude to each other ? and she rude to each other? and she berm-r— rude to each other? and she hadn't thought— rude to each other? and she hadn't thought of that . she'd hadn't thought of that. she'd r-esr— hadn't thought of that. she'd r-esr-reegbee— hadn't thought of that. she'd just-roughed.in- just been roughed up in the member— just been roughed up in the chamber and— just been roughed up in the chamber and she assumed it was beese— chamber and she assumed it was beese sbe— chamber and she assumed it was beese sbe es— chamber and she assumed it was because she was a— chamber and she assumed it was because she was a woman. in reeb— because she was a woman. in reeblwes— because she was a woman. in fact,.was because- because she was a woman. in fact, was because she fact, it was because she was useless. right?— fact, it was because she was useless. right? converted to useless. right? you converted to kemem— useless. right? you converted to roman catholicism in 1993? “c25 roman catholicism in 1993? yes. mer— roman catholicism in 1993? yes. we we— roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following _ roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following the- roman catholicism in 1993? yes. that was following the anglican church's decision to allow the ordination of women. yes. why shouldn't a woman be able to be a vicar? it's theological. it's got— a vicar? it's theological. it's ger mermmg— a vicar? it's theological. it's ger mermmg re— a vicar? it's theological. it's got nothing to do— , tre7 it's theological. it's got nothing to do with. can a gwe— got nothing to do with. can a gwe e— got nothing to do with. can a woman give a good sermon ? i woman give a good sermon? i reeke— woman give a good sermon? i reeke r— woman give a good sermon? i reeke r eeebe— woman give a good sermon? i reckon i could give a great . rr-s— reckon i could give a great sermon . it's got- reckon i could give a great sermon . it's got nothing to do sermon. it's got nothing to do web— sermon. it's got nothing to do wbrb kme— sermon. it's got nothing to do mm mm er— sermon. it's got nothing to do with kind of woman. be a good besee— with kind of woman. be a good besrer. r— with kind of woman. be a good besrer. rrbmk— with kind of woman. be a good pastor. i think women make ekeebbemr— pastor. i think women make excellent pastors. it's purely rbeebegbeeb— excellent pastors. it's purely theological.-can- excellent pastors. it's purely theological. can you have theological. it is. can you have a theological. it is. can you have e-srememg— theological. it is. can you have e-srembmg m- theological. it is. can you have a standing in persona? a woman standing in persona? ebrbsrb— a woman standing in persona? embe-berm— a woman standing in persona? christi _point of- a woman standing in persona? christi point of the christi at the point of the consecration _ christi at the point of the consecration that is what consecration now that is what eeeeerwebw— consecration now that is what effectively - about- consecration now that is what effectively about . and but effectively it is about. and but eber— effectively it is about. and but me es— effectively it is about. and but me rer— effectively it is about. and but that was for me— effectively it is about. and but that was for me that was the bese— that was for me that was the besr srrew— that was for me that was the last straw in— that was for me that was the last straw in a— that was for me that was the last straw in a very large bembbe— last straw in a very large bundle. and— last straw in a very large bundle. and i— last straw in a very large bundle. and i mean, i was ebreebw— bundle. and i mean, i was ebreebw r— bundle. and i mean, i was already i had— bundle. and i mean, i was already i had one foot over the fiber— already i had one foot over the fiber ebreebw— already i had one foot over the tiber already and— already i had one foot over the tiber already and that debate on women's ordination, which wasn't ebeer— women's ordination, which wasn't ebeer sbeebe— women's ordination, which wasn't about should this—
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women's ordination, which wasn't about should this happen , it was about should this happen, it was ebeer— about should this happen, it was ebeer m— about should this happen, it was ebeer be we— about should this happen, it was about if we don't— about should this happen, it was about if we don't do this, we wem-r— about if we don't do this, we wem-r ebbeeb— about if we don't do this, we wem-r ebbeeb re— about if we don't do this, we won't appeal to the world, you kmew,— won't appeal to the world, you know, because _ won't appeal to the world, you know, because the— won't appeal to the world, you know, because the world has meeeb— know, because the world has moved on. and— know, because the world has moved on. and i— know, because the world has moved on. and i thought, hang on, moved on. and i thought, hang bemg— moved on. and i thought, hang bemg — moved on. and i thought, hang bemg r— moved on. and i thought, hang on, hang on. i don't want a ebereb— on, hang on. i don't want a ebereb mer— on, hang on. i don't want a church that follows the world. i wem— church that follows the world. i wem e— church that follows the world. i want a church— church that follows the world. i want a church that— church that follows the world. i want a church that leads the were.— want a church that leads the werbeb amb— want a church that leads the world. and but— want a church that leads the world. and but as i say, it was a world. and but as i say, it was eveew— world. and but as i say, it was eweew br— world. and but as i say, it was ewerw b es— world. and but as i say, it was a very it was the— world. and but as i say, it was a very it was the last straw in a very it was the last straw in eweew— a very it was the last straw in ewerw berge— a very it was the last straw in a very large bundle. i would beve— a very large bundle. i would bewe geme— a very large bundle. i would bewe geme re— a very large bundle. i would have gone to the— a very large bundle. i would have gone to the catholic ebereb.— have gone to the catholic church. supposing we'd never ereemeb— church. supposing we'd never ordained women— church. supposing we'd never ordained women in the anglican ebereb,— ordained women in the anglican ebereb, r— ordained women in the anglican church, i would— ordained women in the anglican church, i would have gone to the eerbebbe— church, i would have gone to the catholic church _ church, i would have gone to the catholic church within about me— catholic church within about me weers— catholic church within about me weers ee— catholic church within about five years of when i actually we— five years of when i actually we ge— five years of when i actually we ge ber— five years of when i actually we ge er s— five years of when i actually we ge er s ge— five years of when i actually did go let s go a— five years of when i actually did go let s go a bit lighter veew— did go let s go a bit lighter werw brgm— did go let s go a bit lighter now very light into her in 2018. veere— now very light into her in 2018. keere m— now very light into her in 2018. keere m be— now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest— now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest tv- now very light into her in 2018. you're in the biggest tv show on the planet. you're in strictly come dancing. you're in 2018, zero.— come dancing. you're in 2018, zero. bore— come dancing. you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was— come dancing. you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was big— . t “g you're in 2018, 2010. 2018 was big brother. you may— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you mew be— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you mew be rmmkmg— 2010. 2018 was big brother. you may be thinking of. thank you eme— may be thinking of. thank you emb eer— may be thinking of. thank you and for correcting _ may be thinking of. thank you and for correcting my reality weer— and for correcting my reality year television— and for correcting my reality year television shows in 2010. veer— year television shows in 2010. keeb .— year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered— year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered with- year television shows in 2010. yeah . partnered with anton de yeah. partnered with anton de btec the sequins , the fake tan . btec the sequins, the fake tan. never had it, never had fake
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tank— never had it, never had fake tan, never had— never had it, never had fake tan, never had hairpieces , never tan, never had hairpieces, never bee— tan, never had hairpieces, never bee ewebesb— tan, never had hairpieces, never had eyelash extensions . i said, had eyelash extensions. i said, beek— had eyelash extensions. i said, beek, me— had eyelash extensions. i said, beek, rbe wew— had eyelash extensions. i said, look, the way that— had eyelash extensions. i said, look, the way that i carry on, if look, the way that i carry on, be r— look, the way that i carry on, be r beve— look, the way that i carry on, be r bewe e— look, the way that i carry on, if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up if i have a hairpiece, it'll end we em— if i have a hairpiece, it'll end we em me— if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up on the floor. _ if i have a hairpiece, it'll end up on the floor. because, you kmew,— up on the floor. because, you kmew, rbe — up on the floor. because, you kmew, rbe wew— up on the floor. because, you know, the way that anton was rbrewmg — know, the way that anton was rbrewmg me— know, the way that anton was throwing me about, i said, don't be beer.— throwing me about, i said, don't be eem. rr-bb— throwing me about, i said, don't be daft. it'll just— throwing me about, i said, don't be daft. it'll just end up on me— be daft. it'll just end up on me beer.— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and i— be daft. it'll just end up on the floor. and i didn't go for me— the floor. and i didn't go for me eeke— the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. _ the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i— the floor. and i didn't go for the fake tan. i never had any rem— the fake tan. i never had any rem er— the fake tan. i never had any rem er-kme— the fake tan. i never had any rem er-kmb r— the fake tan. i never had any tan at and i never had tan at all. and i never had ewebesb—r- tan at all. and i never had. ewebesb—r-re eyelash extensions. i tried to keep— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep br— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep b es— eyelash extensions. i tried to keep it as normal as it was bessbbbe— keep it as normal as it was bessrbbe re— keep it as normal as it was possible to keep- keep it as normal as it was possible to keep anything on. srrberbw— possible to keep anything on. strictly come— possible to keep anything on. strictly come dancing. are you in strictly come dancing. are you m-wbrb— strictly come dancing. are you in _with anton— strictly come dancing. are you in with anton bexhill? in touch with anton de bexhill? oh, in touch with anton de bexhill? on-n— in touch with anton de bexhill? on-n reeeb- in touch with anton de bexhill? oh,-in touch with- oh, yes. i'm in touch with kmrem. — oh, yes. i'm in touch with kmrem. veew— oh, yes. i'm in touch with anton. very occasionally. in reeeb— anton. very occasionally. in reeeb wbrb— anton. very occasionally. in touch with craig? yeah cj“ touch with craig? yeah oh, mreresrmg. — touch with craig? yeah oh, interesting. question . interesting. final question. personal one. you have never married . you've never had any married. you've never had any children . any regrets? none children. any regrets? none whatsoever. ever. really? none wberseewer— whatsoever. ever. really? none wberseever .— whatsoever. ever. really? none whatsoever . oh,— whatsoever. ever. really? none whatsoever . oh, i— ever. really? none whatsoever . oh, i know it's very whatsoever. oh, i know it's very embeebr— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very embeebr re— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very difficult to get— whatsoever. oh, i know it's very difficult to get people to understand _ difficult to get people to understand this, but the fact mer— understand this, but the fact be r— understand this, but the fact that i didn't— understand this, but the fact that i didn't marry was a meme— that i didn't marry was a mkrere er— that i didn't marry was a mixture of choice and chance. it was chance because mr right ekem-r— was chance because mr right ekem-r bebbem— was chance because mr right didn't happen to— was chance because mr right didn't happen to come along. it ebebee— didn't happen to come along. it was choice because it was never a was choice because it was never e bbg— was choice because it was never e brg emeegb— was choice because it was never a big enough priority to go out beekmg— a big enough priority to go out beekmg rer— a big enough priority to go out looking for him. _ a big enough priority to go out looking for him. and, you know, i'm looking for him. and, you know, r-m -eemem. — looking for him. and, you know, i'm-content. if— looking for him. and, you know, i'm _content. if he- looking for him. and, you know, i'm content. if he had i'm quite content. if he had eeme-berbebs- i'm quite content. if he had
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come-perhaps would come along, perhaps things would beve— come along, perhaps things would beee—rm- have been different. but i'm eemrem— have been different. but i'm content either— have been different. but i'm content either way. i'm widdicombe. you literally you are of a kind. and it has are one of a kind. and it has been pleasure to chat with been a pleasure to chat with you.thank been a pleasure to chat with you. thank you. coming up, conservative mp shailesh vara . conservative mp shailesh vara. any of your viewers watching ? if any of your viewers watching? if weere— any of your viewers watching? if wee eskee— any of your viewers watching? if you're asked for— any of your viewers watching? if you're asked for your money, gree— you're asked for your money, gwe weer— you're asked for your money, gwe weer memew— you're asked for your money, give your money over. unless you got give your money over. unless you ger e— give your money over. unless you ger e bbeek— give your money over. unless you got a black belt— give your money over. unless you got a black belt in— give your money over. unless you got a black belt in taekwondo . got a black belt in taekwondo. kme— got a black belt in taekwondo. ame eem— got a black belt in taekwondo. and even then—
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shiela chavara, elected as a conservative— shiela chavara, elected as a conservative mp— shiela chavara, elected as a conservative mp in 2005, your rembbw— conservative mp in 2005, your rembbw eeme— conservative mp in 2005, your family came here— conservative mp in 2005, your family came here in the 60s from brgembe. — family came here in the 60s from bgembe. kee— family came here in the 60s from uganda. you were— family came here in the 60s from uganda. you were four- family came here in the 60s from uganda. /rir rirr: uganda. you were four years old. you couldn't speak a word of english. how did you cope? well you know, young children can be quite resilient and we were fortunate as a family that my father had come to the uk nine months beforehand . so he'd got months beforehand. so he'd got a job and
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months beforehand. so he'd got a job emb beb— months beforehand. so he'd got a job emb be-e ger— months beforehand. so he'd got a job and he'd got rented- ”cl: so he'd got a job and he'd got rented some accommodation— job and he'd got rented some accommodation in. so he actually mer— accommodation in. so he actually mer es— accommodation in. so he actually mer es er— accommodation in. so he actually mer es er bbe— accommodation in. so he actually met us at the airport. you know, he met us at the airport. you know, be sem— met us at the airport. you know, be sem seme— met us at the airport. you know, he sent some money over for us to he sent some money over for us be bew— he sent some money over for us be bew rbekers. — he sent some money over for us to buy tickets. so— he sent some money over for us to buy tickets. so we came over. he to buy tickets. so we came over. be mer— to buy tickets. so we came over. be me es— to buy tickets. so we came over. be me es er— to buy tickets. so we came over. he met us at the— to buy tickets. so we came over. he met us at the airport and we eereebbw— he met us at the airport and we eereebbw wem— he met us at the airport and we actually went back— he met us at the airport and we actually went back to a home at emb— actually went back to a home at emb se— actually went back to a home at emb se mere— actually went back to a home at and so there was— actually went back to a home at and so there was that stability of and so there was that stability er bbe— and so there was that stability of the warmth _ and so there was that stability of the warmth and comfort of a meme— of the warmth and comfort of a home,-course is- of the warmth and comfort of a home,-course is a- of the warmth and comfort of a home, course is a lot home, which of course is a lot ebberem— home, which of course is a lot ebererem re — home, which of course is a lot different to happens different to what happens mewebews— different to what happens. nowadays—course different to what happens- nowadays_course , some nowadays because of course, some beetle,— nowadays because of course, some reeebe-er— nowadays because of course, some people, of immigration , people, by way of immigration, wbb— people, by way of immigration, wbbb rese— people, by way of immigration, will just come— people, by way of immigration, will just come to— people, by way of immigration, will just come to the country emb— will just come to the country emb mem— will just come to the country and then expect— will just come to the country and then expect the state to brewbe— and then expect the state to brewbe-wbb- and then expect the state to provide with accommodation, provide them with accommodation, webere— provide them with accommodation, welfare benefits— provide them with accommodation, welfare benefits and welfare benefits for food and eeerwrmmg— welfare benefits for food and eeerwrmmg-b- welfare benefits for food and everything it was everything else. but it was eerrembw— everything else. but it was eerrembw werw— everything else. but it was certainly very different in mese— certainly very different in rbese- — certainly very different in those-. what- certainly very different in those . �*vwr�*wec certainly very different in. those-. what was the certainly very different in- those-. what was the debate those days. what was the debate as toxic as it feels now? was it more toxic ? maybe you don't more toxic? maybe you don't think it's toxic at all. i think the debate in parliament was not so toxic, but i think the prejudice on the ground was very raw and very real. for example, i raw and very real. for example, r rememerb— raw and very real. for example, r reemeemerb es— raw and very real. for example, r reemeemerb es e— raw and very real. for example, i remember as a child,- rritg ”chi for example, i remember as a child, you know , vou— i remember as a child, you know , wee weebb— i remember as a child, you know , you would walk— i remember as a child, you know , you would walk past places for beb— , you would walk past places for bed emb— , you would walk past places for bed and breakfast— , you would walk past places for bed and breakfast or restaurants or bed and breakfast or restaurants er bebs— bed and breakfast or restaurants er bebs emb— bed and breakfast or restaurants or pubs and there— bed and breakfast or restaurants or pubs and there would be signs sewmg— or pubs and there would be signs sewmg me— or pubs and there would be signs
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saying no minorities . and saying no minorities. and bebewe— saying no minorities. and believe me,— saying no minorities. and believe me, i'm using polite rerms— believe me, i'm using polite rerms wbem— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i say— believe me, i'm using polite terms when i say no. minorities bbe— terms when i say no. minorities rbe bemgeege— terms when i say no. minorities rbe bemgeege bs— terms when i say no. minorities the language is pretty crude . the language is pretty crude. amb— the language is pretty crude. ame r— the language is pretty crude. and i remember— the language is pretty crude. and i remember with my mother geeemg— and i remember with my mother geeemg m— and i remember with my mother geeemg m e— and i remember with my mother queuing in a grocery store and the queuing in a grocery store and me beebbe— queuing in a grocery store and the people before— queuing in a grocery store and the people before us were served and the people before us were served emb mere— the people before us were served and there were— the people before us were served and there were some white people bebmb— and there were some white people bebmb es— and there were some white people bebmb es emb— and there were some white people behind us and the— and there were some white people behind us and the storekeeper rese— behind us and the storekeeper just rgmereb— behind us and the storekeeper just rgmereb es— behind us and the storekeeper just ignored us and served them eress— just ignored us and served them bese. amb— just ignored us and served them first. and then— just ignored us and served them first. and then came back to us. me— first. and then came back to us. me wee— first. and then came back to us. and you accepted— first. and then came back to us. and you accepted this . you know, and you accepted this. you know, ems— and you accepted this. you know, we es— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal .— and you accepted this. you know, this was normal . and i remember this was normal. and i remember as this was normal. and i remember es e eeb— this was normal. and i remember es e eeb seem,— this was normal. and i remember as a cub scout, eight year old wbb— as a cub scout, eight year old wbb mw— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little cap— as a cub scout, eight year old with my little cap and my goggles— with my little cap and my geggbes emb— with my little cap and my goggles and my neckerchief and wherever— goggles and my neckerchief and whatever were— goggles and my neckerchief and whatever were proudly going eeemb— whatever were proudly going around knocking on doors to do a bebe— around knocking on doors to do a bebe e— around knocking on doors to do a bebe e bebe— around knocking on doors to do a baba a baba job.— around knocking on doors to do a baba a baba job. and for your wbe— baba a baba job. and for your viewers who don't— baba a baba job. and for your viewers who don't know what that is, viewers who don't know what that rs r— viewers who don't know what that rs r meem— viewers who don't know what that rs r mer— viewers who don't know what that is, i mean, that was— viewers who don't know what that is, i mean, that was when you sbmbbw— is, i mean, that was when you srmbbw kmeek— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on a— is, i mean, that was when you simply knock on a door and say, r— simply knock on a door and say, b be— simply knock on a door and say, can i do something— simply knock on a door and say, can i do something a small job? amb— can i do something a small job? ame mew-b— can i do something a small job? kmb mew-b gwe— can i do something a small job? and they'd give you a a and they'd give you a bob, a smbbmg— and they'd give you a bob, a smbbmg m— and they'd give you a bob, a shilling in old— and they'd give you a bob, a shilling in old money and all of mer— shilling in old money and all of me memew— shilling in old money and all of that money then— shilling in old money and all of that money then went to charity. amb— that money then went to charity. abdlb— that money then went to charity. abdlb es— that money then went to charity. and-i was this— that money then went to charity. and i was this happy eight and so i was this happy eight weer— and so i was this happy eight weer-ebeer- and so i was this happy eight year-about to- and so i was this happy eight year about to press a year old boy about to press a beerbebb— year old boy about to press a beerbebb .— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and on— year old boy about to press a doorbell . and on top of it, doorbell. and on top of it, mere— doorbell. and on top of it, there - little - doorbell. and on top of it, there little plaque doorbell. and on top of it,- there-little plaque and there was this little plaque and it there was this little plaque and b-emb— there was this little plaque and b-emb rm— there was this little plaque and it-and i'm not- there was this little plaque and it and i'm not going it said, no, and i'm not going to it said, no, and i'm not going re-rbe— it said, no, and i'm not going re-rbe-ber- it said, no, and i'm not going to-the-but it-
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it said, no, and i'm not going to .the-but it was. to use the words, but it was a beer— to use the words, but it was a beer berrer— to use the words, but it was a four letter word— to use the words, but it was a four letter word which begins wbb— four letter word which begins wbb w— four letter word which begins with w-third- four letter word which begins with w third and fourth with w and the third and fourth berrers— with w and the third and fourth berrers ee— with w and the third and fourth letters are gs— with w and the third and fourth letters are gs now, i was eight weers— letters are gs now, i was eight weers ebb.— letters are gs now, i was eight weers ebb. r— letters are gs now, i was eight years old. i didn't— letters are gs now, i was eight years old. i didn't know what mer— years old. i didn't know what we were— years old. i didn't know what that word meant,— years old. i didn't know what that word meant, but but i had a gut that word meant, but but i had a ger msbmer— that word meant, but but i had a gut instinct that— that word meant, but but i had a gut instinct that that it referred — gut instinct that that it referred to _ gut instinct that that it referred to me so that was one beerbebb— referred to me so that was one doorbell that _ referred to me so that was one doorbell that i— referred to me so that was one doorbell that i gave a miss to. rss— doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable— doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable change- doorbell that i gave a miss to. it's remarkable change that we've undergone in this country free, not least that rishi sunak is as our prime minister. he she is as our prime minister. he she is not white. he is a hindu. it's barely remarked on really. it's barely remarked on really. it's such a journey, isn't it? it's such a journey, isn't it? it is such a journey in my lifetime. and remember , gloria, lifetime. and remember, gloria, i lifetime. and remember, gloria, res— lifetime. and remember, gloria, res bem— lifetime. and remember, gloria, res berm m— lifetime. and remember, gloria, i was born in uganda- c �*"ric and remember, gloria, i was born in uganda at a time wbem— i was born in uganda at a time wbem bgembe— i was born in uganda at a time when uganda was— i was born in uganda at a time when uganda was part of the bbbsb— when uganda was part of the british empire— when uganda was part of the british empire .— when uganda was part of the british empire . and you know, we british empire. and you know, we beve— british empire. and you know, we now have rishi _ british empire. and you know, we now have rishi sunak enoch as bbme— now have rishi sunak enoch as prime minister— now have rishi sunak enoch as prime minister and in my own bewmg— prime minister and in my own case, having been— prime minister and in my own case, having been born in a eeemew,— case, having been born in a countryr berr— case, having been born in a countryr beer ee— case, having been born in a country, part of the empire wbere— country, part of the empire wbere r— country, part of the empire wbere r es— country, part of the empire
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where i was in— country, part of the empire where i was in the cabinet last weer— where i was in the cabinet last year ,_ where i was in the cabinet last weer , emb— where i was in the cabinet last weer , emb mer— where i was in the cabinet last year , and that journey , i do year, and that journey, i do remember when- year, and that journey, i do remember when i was in the eebmer— remember when i was in the eebmer er— remember when i was in the cabinet at the— remember when i was in the cabinet at the cabinet table rbmkmg— cabinet at the cabinet table thinking that,— cabinet at the cabinet table thinking that, you know , born in thinking that, you know, born in an thinking that, you know, born in em embbe— thinking that, you know, born in an empire country— thinking that, you know, born in an empire country and yet sbbmg— an empire country and yet sitting around— an empire country and yet sitting around that table of bmbeemee— sitting around that table of influence from _ sitting around that table of influence from which the empire influence from which the empire be me— influence from which the empire be me bese— influence from which the empire be me besr beb— influence from which the empire in the past had been run, besbeebbw,— in the past had been run, basically, and— in the past had been run, basically, and when you did join the basically, and when you did join me eebmer— basically, and when you did join the cabinet cabinet members, beee— the cabinet cabinet members, become members of the privy eeemebb— become members of the privy eeemebb ebb— become members of the privy council, all you— become members of the privy council, all you the last it bese— council, all you the last it bese re— council, all you the last it bese be be— council, all you the last it person to be made a member of the person to be made a member of me brww— person to be made a member of the privy council— person to be made a member of the privy council by the now bere— the privy council by the now be eeee — the privy council by the now late queen. absolutely treasured memem — late queen. absolutely treasured memem r— late queen. absolutely treasured memem res— late queen. absolutely treasured moment. i was the— late queen. absolutely treasured moment. i was the last person to be bese— moment. i was the last person to be bese swem— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in.— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in. i— moment. i was the last person to be person sworn in. i think ebere— be person sworn in. i think mere es— be person sworn in. i think there was one— be person sworn in. i think there was one virtual all sweermg— there was one virtual all sweermg m— there was one virtual all swearing in after me, but i was the swearing in after me, but i was me besr— swearing in after me, but i was the last personal— swearing in after me, but i was the last personal swearing in emb— the last personal swearing in emb b— the last personal swearing in emb b es— the last personal swearing in emb b e— the last personal swearing in and it was a lovely moment. i'd beem— and it was a lovely moment. i'd beem ebbemreb— and it was a lovely moment. i'd been appointed to— and it was a lovely moment. i'd been appointed to the cabinet the been appointed to the cabinet rbe bew— been appointed to the cabinet the day before— been appointed to the cabinet the day before and the first rbmg— the day before and the first rbmg r— the day before and the first rmmg b be— the day before and the first thing i did was— the day before and the first thing i did was to go to berrbem— thing i did was to go to northern ireland to make my beseee rebr— northern ireland to make my presence felt there. got back, rekem— presence felt there. got back, rekem re— presence felt there. got back, taken to windsor— presence felt there. got back, taken to windsor castle and then to taken to windsor castle and then be ge— taken to windsor castle and then be ge m— taken to windsor castle and then
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be ge m mer— taken to windsor castle and then to go in that wonderful room and to go in that wonderful room and be see— to go in that wonderful room and to swear allegiance— to go in that wonderful room and to swear allegiance to her beg-esrw— to swear allegiance to her beg-esrw me— to swear allegiance to her majesty me. and, you know , kneel majesty me. and, you know, kneel bewm— majesty me. and, you know, kneel bewm. amb— majesty me. and, you know, kneel bewm. me me— majesty me. and, you know, kneel down. and the privy— majesty me. and, you know, kneel down. and the privy council of course, is a personal oath to be— course, is a personal oath to bee beg-esrw— course, is a personal oath to her majesty and— course, is a personal oath to her majesty and to have done mer— her majesty and to have done me emb— her majesty and to have done me emb r— her majesty and to have done that and i swore— her majesty and to have done that and i swore on the bhagavad ebe— that and i swore on the bhagavad ebe egem— that and i swore on the bhagavad ebe egem bew— that and i swore on the bhagavad gita again how the— that and i swore on the bhagavad gita again how the world, how the gita again how the world, how be bk— gita again how the world, how be bk bes— gita again how the world, how the uk has changed that i took the uk has changed that i took me eem— the uk has changed that i took me eerb em— the uk has changed that i took me eerb em mw— the uk has changed that i took the oath on my own by equivalent the oath on my own by equivalent rbe bbegeweb— the oath on my own by equivalent the bhagavad gita,— the oath on my own by equivalent the bhagavad gita, which is the beek— the bhagavad gita, which is the beek eer— the bhagavad gita, which is the book for hindus,— the bhagavad gita, which is the book for hindus, which i got to keep— book for hindus, which i got to keep afterwards.— book for hindus, which i got to keep afterwards. and after i'd beem— keep afterwards. and after i'd been sworn to— keep afterwards. and after i'd been sworn to the privy council. rbem — been sworn to the privy council. rbem r— been sworn to the privy council. rbem r reek— been sworn to the privy council. then i took another oath to eebbeer— then i took another oath to eebbeer bbe— then i took another oath to collect the seals- then i took another oath to collect the seals of office for berrbem — collect the seals of office for northern ireland.— collect the seals of office for northern ireland. but yes, you kmew,— northern ireland. but yes, you kmew, greer— northern ireland. but yes, you know, great privilege that in her know, great privilege that in bee bemg— know, great privilege that in bee bemg rergm— know, great privilege that in her long reign i— know, great privilege that in her long reign i was the last re— her long reign i was the last be be— her long reign i was the last one to be personally sworn to me— one to be personally sworn to me brww— one to be personally sworn to the privy council. _ one to be personally sworn to the privy council. so it's a remarkable— the privy council. so it's a remarkable journey that you've bee.— remarkable journey that you've bee. — remarkable journey that you've bee. b— remarkable journey that you've bee. b we— remarkable journey that you've had. it was third— remarkable journey that you've had. it was third time- remarkable journey that you've had. c r: c cc.rt.
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the experience any prejudice on on me wew— experience any prejudice on on me wew re— experience any prejudice on on the way to getting a safe seat or subsequently— the way to getting a safe seat or subsequently it wasn't the eesbesr— or subsequently it wasn't the eesbesr ee— or subsequently it wasn't the easiest of journeys . i remember easiest of journeys. i remember wbem— easiest of journeys. i remember wbem r— easiest of journeys. i remember wbem r es— easiest of journeys. i remember wbem r rrwmg— easiest of journeys. i remember when i was trying to get into me— when i was trying to get into the candidates— when i was trying to get into the candidates list in the 90s, the candidates list in the 90s, the conservative _ the candidates list in the 90s, the conservative party candidates— the conservative party candidates list, and i was told by candidates list, and i was told bw bbe— candidates list, and i was told bw rbe emer— candidates list, and i was told by the senior agent at the time , umr— by the senior agent at the time . mer— by the senior agent at the time . me me— by the senior agent at the time , um, that the best— by the senior agent at the time , um, that the best that i could bebe— , um, that the best that i could bebe eer— , um, that the best that i could hope for would _ , um, that the best that i could hope for would be— , um, that the best that i could hope for would be to win back a bebeer— hope for would be to win back a labour marginal— hope for would be to win back a labour marginal seat where for weer— labour marginal seat where for weer ewm— labour marginal seat where for weer kme— labour marginal seat where for your own kind would be expected to, re— your own kind would be expected to, re were— your own kind would be expected to, re were rer— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me .— your own kind would be expected to, to vote for me . how did that to, to vote for me. how did that meke— to, to vote for me. how did that meke wee— to, to vote for me. how did that meke wee reeb— to, to vote for me. how did that make you feel ?_ to, to vote for me. how did that make you feel ? um, well, it make you feel? um, well, it esr— make you feel? um, well, it esr wbee— make you feel? um, well, it wasn't what i— make you feel? um, well, it wasn't what i wanted to hear , wasn't what i wanted to hear, ber— wasn't what i wanted to hear, be r— wasn't what i wanted to hear, be r es— wasn't what i wanted to hear, but i was mindful given the eberremee— but i was mindful given the experience and— but i was mindful given the experience and prejudice i'd ekberremeeb— experience and prejudice i'd experienced in— experience and prejudice i'd experienced in the past, i was mer— experienced in the past, i was mer eeremee— experienced in the past, i was not deterred because my basis weew— not deterred because my basis werw srmbbe— not deterred because my basis werw srmbbe .— not deterred because my basis was very simple . one day, was very simple. one day, semebebw— was very simple. one day, somebody who— was very simple. one day, somebody who is not white is going— somebody who is not white is gemg re— somebody who is not white is gemg re meke— somebody who is not white is going to make it— somebody who is not white is going to make it as a conservative- going to make it as a conservative mp, so why sbeebbm-r— conservative mp, so why shouldn't it— conservative mp, so why shouldn't it be me? and that's wber— shouldn't it be me? and that's wber kebr— shouldn't it be me? and that's wber kebr me— shouldn't it be me? and that's what kept me going. and i was mmebeb— what kept me going. and i was mindful that, _ what kept me going. and i was mindful that, you— what kept me going. and i was mindful that, you know, the vast meg-ebw— mindful that, you know, the vast meg-errrw ee— mindful that, you know, the vast meg-errrw er rbe — mindful that, you know, the vast majority of the public are good,
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geeem— majority of the public are good, beeem .— majority of the public are good, decent , honest— majority of the public are good, decent , honest people majority of the public are good, decent, honest people and majority of the public are good, decent , honest people and not decent, honest people and not eeeewe— decent, honest people and not everyone was going to judge me on everyone was going to judge me em mw— everyone was going to judge me em mw eebee— everyone was going to judge me on my colour. so— everyone was going to judge me on my colour. so having been rebe— on my colour. so having been rebb mer— on my colour. so having been rebb rber .— on my colour. so having been rebb rber . r— on my colour. so having been told that , i then— on my colour. so having been told that , i then said, fine , if told that, i then said, fine, if rber-s— told that, i then said, fine, if eber-s wber— told that, i then said, fine, if that's what is— told that, i then said, fine, if that's what is going to be, i wbb— that's what is going to be, i wbbb sbbb— that's what is going to be, i will still fight— that's what is going to be, i will still fight my, my, my berrbes— will still fight my, my, my berrbes .— will still fight my, my, my battles . in— will still fight my, my, my battles . in 1997, my no hoper. i battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i sbeee— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i sreeb egemsr— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i stood against clare— battles. in 1997, my no hoper. i stood against clare short in me— stood against clare short in ebw— stood against clare short in inner city birmingham. i wasn't inner city birmingham. iwasn't going— inner city birmingham. iwasn't gemg re— inner city birmingham. iwasn't gemg re ger— inner city birmingham. i wasn't going to get anything. i was r-esr— going to get anything. i was just brekmg— going to get anything. i was just brekmg eb— going to get anything. i was just picking up battle wounds. mem— just picking up battle wounds. rbem beer.— just picking up battle wounds. rbem zoor. r— just picking up battle wounds. then 2001, i lost— just picking up battle wounds. then 2001, i lost by about 850 rees— then 2001, i lost by about 850 weesb eem.— then 2001, i lost by about 850 votes. gosh, that— then 2001, i lost by about 850 votes. gosh, that would have beem— votes. gosh, that would have beem e— votes. gosh, that would have been a painful— votes. gosh, that would have been a painful night. the labour eemebbebe— been a painful night. the labour candidate labour— been a painful night. the labour candidate labour mp, said. rremeebbw— candidate labour mp, said. ironically used— candidate labour mp, said. ironically used the race card wbem— ironically used the race card wbem mem— ironically used the race card when then he— ironically used the race card when then he said because it was a when then he said because it was e bere— when then he said because it was .95% wbbe— when then he said because it was a 95% white constituency , 5% a 95% white constituency, 5% mem—wbbe— a 95% white constituency, 5% non—white and _ a 95% white constituency, 5% non—white and the majority of bbem — non—white and the majority of bbem wee— non—white and the majority of them were bangladeshi muslims and them were bangladeshi muslims emb be— them were bangladeshi muslims emb be es— them were bangladeshi muslims and he was stupid— them were bangladeshi muslims and he was stupid enough to say bebbebw— and he was stupid enough to say bebbebw eber— and he was stupid enough to say bebbebw eber wee— and he was stupid enough to say publicly that you know, the bemes— publicly that you know, the rebes beb— publicly that you know, the tories had picked the wrong type of tories had picked the wrong type er asbem— tories had picked the wrong type er bsbem .— tories had picked the wrong type er bsbem . amb— tories had picked the wrong type of asian . and what he meant was of asian. and what he meant was bbee— of asian. and what he meant was be r— of asian. and what he meant was be r es— of asian. and what he meant was be r e— of asian. and what he meant was that i was a ugandan born hindu . wbeees bbe— that i was a ugandan born hindu , whereas the asian— that i was a ugandan born hindu , whereas the asian population in northampton— , whereas the asian population in northampton south were bermerbw— in northampton south were primarily bangladeshi muslims, so primarily bangladeshi muslims, se mew— primarily bangladeshi muslims, so they wouldn't— primarily bangladeshi muslims, so they wouldn't vote for me. bweeweme— so they wouldn't vote for me. everyone condemned him, all the
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meme— everyone condemned him, all the meebe ebeer— everyone condemned him, all the media, apart from _ everyone condemned him, all the media, apart from the labour beebersmb— media, apart from the labour beebersmb .— media, apart from the labour leadership , tony— media, apart from the labour leadership , tony blair and leadership, tony blair and eerbem— leadership, tony blair and gordon brown— leadership, tony blair and gordon brown and peter mandelson sbeweb— gordon brown and peter mandelson sbeweb sbemb— gordon brown and peter mandelson sreweb sbemb em— gordon brown and peter mandelson stayed silent on it.— gordon brown and peter mandelson stayed silent on it. but 2005, mme— stayed silent on it. but 2005, emb— stayed silent on it. but 2005, emb bre— stayed silent on it. but 2005, nine and 9% white constituency , nine and 9% white constituency, bewebw— nine and 9% white constituency, bewebw seeb — nine and 9% white constituency, lovely seat. it's— nine and 9% white constituency, lovely seat. it's been a great brrwrbege— lovely seat. it's been a great brrwrbege be— lovely seat. it's been a great privilege to have— lovely seat. it's been a great privilege to have been their mp ebeebeb— privilege to have been their mp elected 2005,— privilege to have been their mp elected 2005, subsequently re—ebeebeb— elected 2005, subsequently re—elected four— elected 2005, subsequently re—elected four times. but the sbeew— re—elected four times. but the sbeew mere— re—elected four times. but the srerw mere bs— re—elected four times. but the story there is, of— re—elected four times. but the story there is, of course, bewmg— story there is, of course, having been— story there is, of course, having been told in the late gee.— having been told in the late bes bbe— having been told in the late 90s, the best— having been told in the late 90s, the best i'm going to be ebbe— 90s, the best i'm going to be ebbe be— 90s, the best i'm going to be ebbe be be— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is win— 90s, the best i'm going to be able to do is win a seat where weer— able to do is win a seat where weer ewm— able to do is win a seat where weer kme— able to do is win a seat where your own kind are— able to do is win a seat where your own kind are going to vote for your own kind are going to vote rer wee. — your own kind are going to vote rer wee. mem— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to be— your own kind are going to vote for you. then to be in 2005 sebeebeb— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for this— for you. then to be in 2005 selected for this wonderful seat in cambridgeshire_ selected for this wonderful seat in cambridgeshire just shows wbeb— in cambridgeshire just shows wbeb e— in cambridgeshire just shows what a fantastic— in cambridgeshire just shows what a fantastic country we are emb— what a fantastic country we are emb bew— what a fantastic country we are emb bew rer— what a fantastic country we are and how far we _ what a fantastic country we are and how far we are moving and bewe— and how far we are moving and bewe meweb— and how far we are moving and bewe meweb m— and how far we are moving and have moved in just a few years . have moved in just a few years. so have moved in just a few years. se em— have moved in just a few years. so an interesting— have moved in just a few years. so an interesting journey , but so an interesting journey, but but so an interesting journey, but be be— so an interesting journey, but but it worked— so an interesting journey, but but it worked out well in the emb. — but it worked out well in the emb. kme— but it worked out well in the end. and did— but it worked out well in the end. and did you- but it worked out well in the end. “r: r: r: but it worked out well in the- end. and did you always know you were a conservative? do you ever think about maybe, maybe i'm laboun think about maybe, maybe i'm labour, you know , look, to be labour, you know, look, to be perfectly honest, people would say, well, you know, which party is minority? people say which is a minority? people say which party— is a minority? people say which bemw bs— is a minority? people say which berrw rs mere—
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cg7’ people say which party is more favourable for mmebbes— party is more favourable for mmebbes .— party is more favourable for minorities . and— party is more favourable for minorities . and the truth is, minorities. and the truth is, ebere— minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when _ minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when i— minorities. and the truth is, gloria, when i started on this journey— gloria, when i started on this r-eemew .— gloria, when i started on this r-eemew . bem— gloria, when i started on this journey , both parties weren't journey, both parties weren't bee— journey, both parties weren't bee keem— journey, both parties weren't bee keem em— journey, both parties weren't too keen on having minorities. bbe— too keen on having minorities. rbe bebeer— too keen on having minorities. the labour party— too keen on having minorities. the labour party would say, we bewe — the labour party would say, we bewe bbe — the labour party would say, we love the minorities— the labour party would say, we love the minorities . but then if love the minorities. but then if you— love the minorities. but then if wee beek— love the minorities. but then if wee beek eb— love the minorities. but then if you look at the— love the minorities. but then if you look at the areas where the mmerbw— you look at the areas where the mmerrrw beebbe— you look at the areas where the minority people lived, some of the minority people lived, some of be beeresb— minority people lived, some of the poorest areas— minority people lived, some of the poorest areas with the bebeer— the poorest areas with the labour council— the poorest areas with the labour council as labour mps, mew— labour council as labour mps, bbew wee— labour council as labour mps, mew bemg— labour council as labour mps, they were doing nothing to bring mem— they were doing nothing to bring bbem eeb— they were doing nothing to bring bbem eeb ee— they were doing nothing to bring them out of those— they were doing nothing to bring them out of those areas . and as them out of those areas. and as far them out of those areas. and as be es— them out of those areas. and as be es bbe— them out of those areas. and as far as the tories,— them out of those areas. and as far as the tories, all credit to mem— far as the tories, all credit to bbem. mew— far as the tories, all credit to them, they told— far as the tories, all credit to them, they told you to your face mer— them, they told you to your face bbeb mew— them, they told you to your face that they didn't— them, they told you to your face that they didn't want you in the eeembew— that they didn't want you in the eeembew emb— that they didn't want you in the country and they— that they didn't want you in the country and they used to be bebebeeb— country and they used to be bebebeb. eeew— country and they used to be debated. tory party conferences to debated. tory party conferences be mer— debated. tory party conferences to that effect. _ debated. tory party conferences to that effect. so— debated. tory party conferences to that effect. so my view was, you— to that effect. so my view was, wee kmew. — to that effect. so my view was, you know, neither— to that effect. so my view was, you know, neither of them is eeebb— you know, neither of them is eeebb be— you know, neither of them is could be judged— you know, neither of them is could be judged on on in terms of could be judged on on in terms er reee— could be judged on on in terms er beb— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so i— could be judged on on in terms of race. but so i looked at the bee— of race. but so i looked at the bee emb— of race. but so i looked at the bee emb bbe— of race. but so i looked at the idea and the philosophies of bem— idea and the philosophies of been bemes— idea and the philosophies of both parties and i thought i bbembbeb— both parties and i thought i identified a— both parties and i thought i identified a lot— both parties and i thought i identified a lot with the conservative _ identified a lot with the conservative party. it's, you kmew— conservative party. it's, you kmew .— conservative party. it's, you kmew . rembw— conservative party. it's, you know , family values, education, know, family values, education, an aspirational— know, family values, education, an aspirational .— know, family values, education, an aspirational . and to achieve an aspirational. and to achieve as an aspirational. and to achieve es meeb— an aspirational. and to achieve as much as your— an aspirational. and to achieve as much as your ability and bebem— as much as your ability and bebem wbbb— as much as your ability and talent will allow you to achieve emb— talent will allow you to achieve emb se— talent will allow you to achieve emb se eber-s— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why i— talent will allow you to achieve and so that's why i went for the reew— and so that's why i went for the by beesw— and so that's why i went for the by partyr bbe— and so that's why i went for the tory party, the helping hand up rebber— tory party, the helping hand up rebber mem— tory party, the helping hand up rather than helping hand down.
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veere— rather than helping hand down. keere e— rather than helping hand down. keere e bbeek— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt in— rather than helping hand down. you're a black belt in taekwondo . have you ever had to use it? yes, i have had used it once. it m— yes, i have had used it once. it be me— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s .— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s. i— yes, i have had used it once. it was in the 80s. i used to live in was in the 80s. i used to live m kwbesbeew— was in the 80s. i used to live m kwbesberw eb— was in the 80s. i used to live in aylesbury at and i used to. i got— in aylesbury at and i used to. i geb e— in aylesbury at and i used to. i ger e bbeek— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt at— in aylesbury at and i used to. i got a black belt at the age of 17 got a black belt at the age of b eb— got a black belt at the age of b er emb— got a black belt at the age of 17 at and sometimes i used to beem— 17 at and sometimes i used to beem wbb— 17 at and sometimes i used to train with members of the bmgbsb— train with members of the english taekwondo team and they esee— english taekwondo team and they eseb be— english taekwondo team and they eseb be beem— english taekwondo team and they used to train in— english taekwondo team and they used to train in covent garden in used to train in covent garden m em— used to train in covent garden m em e— used to train in covent garden in on a saturday— used to train in covent garden in on a saturday afternoon . so in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd in on a saturday afternoon. so be geme— in on a saturday afternoon. so be geme be— in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd gone to train— in on a saturday afternoon. so i'd gone to train there and it embeekw— i'd gone to train there and it was unlucky for— i'd gone to train there and it was unlucky for the people that bbee— was unlucky for the people that be r— was unlucky for the people that that i encountered— was unlucky for the people that that i encountered because i was rese— that i encountered because i was r-esr reremmg— that i encountered because i was just returning after— that i encountered because i was just returning after a two hour eemmg— just returning after a two hour training session— just returning after a two hour training session with some of me— training session with some of be beb— training session with some of the top fighters— training session with some of the top fighters in the country . se— the top fighters in the country . be r— the top fighters in the country . be r es— the top fighters in the country . so i was all— the top fighters in the country . so i was all warmed up, all bmbereb— . so i was all warmed up, all bmbereb eb— . so i was all warmed up, all limbered up, and— . so i was all warmed up, all limbered up, and the these three guys,— limbered up, and the these three guysr mew— limbered up, and the these three guysr mew wembeb — limbered up, and the these three guys, they wanted my money. i berm-b— guys, they wanted my money. i ebbm-b reebbw— guys, they wanted my money. i didn't really feel— guys, they wanted my money. i didn't really feel like giving bbem — didn't really feel like giving bbem bbe— didn't really feel like giving them the money that i had with bbee— them the money that i had with me. what time— them the money that i had with me. what time of— them the money that i had with me. what time of night- them the money that i had with me. c “ g“c them the money that i had with me. �*rw�*“rstc c “ g“c c7' me. what time of night was it? was it night? it was in the meme— was it night? it was in the mbbbbe ee— was it night? it was in the middle of the— was it night? it was in the middle of the day.- c i“ g“7 it was in the middle of the day. middle of the day middle of the day. middle of the bew m— middle of the day. middle of the bew m eembreb— middle of the day. middle of the day in central london. in eembreb— day in central london. in central london. i was i think it rebbee— central london. i was i think it was jubilee hall— central london. i was i think it was jubilee hall where i used to beem.— was jubilee hall where i used to beem. amb— was jubilee hall where i used to
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beem. ame se— was jubilee hall where i used to beem. ame se r— was jubilee hall where i used to train. and so i was— was jubilee hall where i used to train. and so i was making my way— train. and so i was making my wew erem— train. and so i was making my way from jubilee— train. and so i was making my way from jubilee hall back to eewem— way from jubilee hall back to eewem-bebe - way from jubilee hall back to covent tube station. and covent garden tube station. and it covent garden tube station. and b—wmeb— covent garden tube station. and it_which wasn't- it was a street which wasn't busye — it was a street which wasn't busy,-complete- it was a street which wasn't busy, complete daylight. it busy, but complete daylight. it wes-ee— busy, but complete daylight. it wes-er bbe— busy, but complete daylight. it was of the afternoon in, was middle of the afternoon in, i was middle of the afternoon in, r bbmk— was middle of the afternoon in, rbbmk ebeer— was middle of the afternoon in, i think about-3:00- i think about two, 3:00 or semebbmg— i think about two, 3:00 or. semebbmg—se i think about two, 3:00 or- something_so they something like that. and so they semb— something like that. and so they sebeb wre— something like that. and so they sebeb wbe wem— something like that. and so they said, we want your— something like that. and so they said, we want your money. and i semb— said, we want your money. and i sebeb beek— said, we want your money. and i sebeb beek. r-we— said, we want your money. and i said, look, i've only— said, we want your money. and i said, look, i've only got enough to said, look, i've only got enough be-be— said, look, i've only got enough be-be kwbesbeew- to get home to aylesbury and mem— to get home to aylesbury and bbem—er- to get home to aylesbury and then—of them. to get home to aylesbury and- then_of them lunged then suddenly one of them lunged at then suddenly one of them lunged eb-bbem— then suddenly one of them lunged at-then events— then suddenly one of them lunged at then events unfolded at me. and then events unfolded weew— at me. and then events unfolded wew-wbeee— at me. and then events unfolded weew-wbere be— at me. and then events unfolded very-where he and- at me. and then events unfolded very where he and the very quickly where he and the emer— very quickly where he and the ebber bwe— very quickly where he and the other two were— very quickly where he and the other two were on— very quickly where he and the other two were on the floor. but it's other two were on the floor. but b-s r— other two were on the floor. but b-s r meem— other two were on the floor. but b-s r .— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can i— other two were on the floor. but it's i mean , can i just say, it's i mean, can i just say, ebere— it's i mean, can i just say, ebebe. emw— it's i mean, can i just say, gloria, any of— it's i mean, can i just say, gloria, any of your viewers webebbmg— gloria, any of your viewers webebmg. b— gloria, any of your viewers watching, if you're asked for weer— watching, if you're asked for weer eew— watching, if you're asked for your money, give your money over embess— your money, give your money over embess weewe— your money, give your money over embess wee ger— your money, give your money over embess wee geb e— your money, give your money over unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo— unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo and— unless you've got a black belt in taekwondo and even then, i bbee— in taekwondo and even then, i bbeb be— in taekwondo and even then, i tried to reason— in taekwondo and even then, i tried to reason with them. you berm-b— tried to reason with them. you ebbm-b wem— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it to— tried to reason with them. you didn't want it to end in webeme — didn't want it to end in violence. you- didn't want it to end in violence. you didn't want it beese— violence. you didn't want it beese wee— violence. you didn't want it because you only use. yeah, wbebewer— because you only use. yeah, whatever skills— because you only use. yeah, whatever skills you have as a weew— whatever skills you have as a weew besb— whatever skills you have as a very last resort— whatever skills you have as a very last resort .— whatever skills you have as a very last resort . yeah. /rirc. very last resort. yeah. you must bewe— very last resort. yeah. you must have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified,— have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified, but- have been terrified. well, i wasn't terrified, but i- i“ i: well, i wasn't terrified, but i was just mmebeb— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that this— wasn't terrified, but i was just mindful that this could get uglv- _ mindful that this could get egbw. weem.— mindful that this could get ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, be ger— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, re ger weer— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to get your black— ugly. yeah, and. and, you know, to get your black belt and bbmgs— to get your black belt and rmmgs bke— to get your black belt and things like that, you have to breek— things like that, you have to breek reeb— things like that, you have to break roof tiles— things like that, you have to break roof tiles and pieces of weed— break roof tiles and pieces of weed emb— break roof tiles and pieces of wood and whatever and so on. so
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you— wood and whatever and so on. so wee kmew.— wood and whatever and so on. so wee kmew. r— wood and whatever and so on. so wee kmew. r meem— wood and whatever and so on. so you know, i mean, you know, eress— you know, i mean, you know, beess ebs— you know, i mean, you know, beess ebs mer— you know, i mean, you know, press ups that we— you know, i mean, you know, press ups that we do to add that beweb— press ups that we do to add that beweb ee— press ups that we do to add that beweb em— press ups that we do to add that level are on your— press ups that we do to add that level are on your knuckles . just level are on your knuckles. just mese— level are on your knuckles. just these - knuckles. _ level are on your knuckles. just these knuckles. you know, these two knuckles. you know, you— these two knuckles. you know, wee-ese— these two knuckles. you know, wee-ese ebb— these two knuckles. you know, you - use all five - these two knuckles. you know, you use all five hands. you don't use all five hands. kee— you don't use all five hands. wee em— you don't use all five hands. wee be— you don't use all five hands. you can do press— you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups- you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups on- you don't use all five hands. you can do press ups on your knuckles, on your knuckle. and just two knuckles, knuckles, on your knuckle. and just-two knuckles,-allj just these two knuckles, not all reee— just these two knuckles, not all reee-wee— just these two knuckles, not all reee-wee sbbb- just these two knuckles, not all four-you still do- four either. do you still do bbeme — four either. do you still do bbeme be— four either. do you still do them? do you- four either. do you still do them? “jrir cc7 four either. do you still do- them? do you still? well when i'm i'm trying to pretend i'm when i'm trying to pretend that i'm exercising, yes. i instinctively go instinctively i will just go on my instinctively i will just go on mw kmeekbes. — instinctively i will just go on my knuckles. can't now go and my knuckles. i can't now go and do my knuckles. i can't now go and belem— my knuckles. i can't now go and belem bbe— my knuckles. i can't now go and dolon the hands.— my knuckles. i can't now go and do on the hands. even if i do it on the hands. even if i wembeb— do it on the hands. even if i wembeb be.— do it on the hands. even if i wanted to, because instinct will r-esb— wanted to, because instinct will r-esb-me— wanted to, because instinct will r-esb-me-beb- wanted to, because instinct will r-esb-me-beb bb- wanted to, because instinct will just me but i'd like just take me there. but i'd like to just take me there. but i'd like be bewe— just take me there. but i'd like to have carried— just take me there. but i'd like to have carried training. to have carried on training. ebebe— to have carried on training. gloria-sadly- to have carried on training. gloria-sadly ,- to have carried on training. gloria sadly , career and gloria but sadly, career and eembw— gloria but sadly, career and eembw emb— gloria but sadly, career and family and all— gloria but sadly, career and family and all of that has taken se— family and all of that has taken se eem-b— family and all of that has taken over. so don't mess with sheila ebewere. — over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what— over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what a— over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. what a point- over. so don't mess with sheila chavara. rib“ chavara. what a point to end on. but also to see the difference s that this country has undergone in terms of race relations through your eyes, your personal life has been a fascinating journey. shailesh vara thank you .thank journey. shailesh vara thank you . thank you. thanks for watching. back next sunday at 6:00 for gloria. meet.
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hello there. i'm 6:00 for gloria. meet.- - hello there. i'm jonathan hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey - hello there. i'm jonathan veebrew bere— . hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of— . hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your- hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your latest gb bews— vautrey here of your latest gb news _forecast - vautrey here of your latest gb news forecast provided news weather forecast provided by news weather forecast provided bw-beb— news weather forecast provided bw-beb eebee. — news weather forecast provided by met office. after a very by the met office. after a very beb — by the met office. after a very warm, hot, even— by the met office. after a very warm, hot, even weekend, there are warm, hot, even weekend, there sbgms— warm, hot, even weekend, there sbgms ee— warm, hot, even weekend, there sbgms er e— warm, hot, even weekend, there are signs of a change on the way mee— are signs of a change on the way me me— are signs of a change on the way me be mew— are signs of a change on the way into the new working week behind this into the new working week behind bms eebe— into the new working week behind this cold front— into the new working week behind this cold front .— into the new working week behind this cold front . and— into the new working week behind this cold front . and winds are this cold front. and winds are sbbbmg— this cold front. and winds are shifting more— this cold front. and winds are shifting more to— this cold front. and winds are shifting more to a westerly ebreebem — shifting more to a westerly direction. helping to direction. that's helping to reeb— direction. that's helping to feed—humid. direction. that's helping to. feed—humid and feed in some less humid and sbgmbw— feed in some less humid and slightly fresher— feed in some less humid and slightly fresher air across the uk slightly fresher air across the bk .— slightly fresher air across the bk . wmbsb— slightly fresher air across the uk . whilst this— slightly fresher air across the uk . whilst this cold front is uk. whilst this cold front is sbb— uk. whilst this cold front is sbbb wbb— uk. whilst this cold front is still with us— uk. whilst this cold front is still with us though, there is sbb— still with us though, there is sbbb bbe— still with us though, there is still the -0f - still with us though, there is still the _of some- still with us though, there is still the of some heavy still the chance of some heavy eebbreeks— still the chance of some heavy outbreaks-across- outbreaks of rain across merbbeesb— outbreaks of rain across northeast-andl outbreaks of rain across- northeast-and east northeast england and east seebbemb— northeast england and east scotland throughout the start of this scotland throughout the start of mks-eebee.- scotland throughout the start of this-period. but- this overnight period. but eemmg— this overnight period. but bemmg—eerl turning to turn drier for eweemerw— turning to turn drier for everyone apart from a few sewebs— everyone apart from a few showers across— everyone apart from a few showers across the far north—west. - showers across the far north—west. but with those eresber— north—west. but with those fresher conditions in place, temperatures— fresher conditions in place, temperatures-a- fresher conditions in place, temperatures a notch temperatures will be a notch bewer— temperatures will be a notch bewer-besb— temperatures will be a notch lower-last night.- temperatures will be a notch lower last night. generally lower than last night. generally eebbmg— lower than last night. generally eebbmg bewm— lower than last night. generally falling down to— lower than last night. generally falling down to 12,— lower than last night. generally falling down to 12, 14 c. so a bbbe— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a bbbe bb— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a little bit more— falling down to 12, 14 c. so a little bit more comfortable for sbeebmg— little bit more comfortable for sbeebmg rer— little bit more comfortable for sleeping for many of us. monday mem— sleeping for many of us. monday bbem sees— sleeping for many of us. monday bbem e— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot of— sleeping for many of us. monday then sees a lot of sunny mbeewebs— then sees a lot of sunny intervals to— then sees a lot of sunny intervals to start off the day, beb— intervals to start off the day, be we-b— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start to— intervals to start off the day, but we'll start to see some sewebs— but we'll start to see some showers bubbling up for late memmg— showers bubbling up for late memmg me— showers bubbling up for late morning into the afternoon, berbeeberbw— morning into the afternoon, particularly across the northern beb— particularly across the northern bebe .— particularly across the northern beb . mese— particularly across the northern half . those could— particularly across the northern half . those could be heavy with half. those could be heavy with
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a-thunderstorms_ half. those could be heavy with a thunderstorms in there a few thunderstorms in there as web.— a few thunderstorms in there as webb webes— a few thunderstorms in there as well. wales, southern well. wales, central, southern erees—bergebw- well. wales, central, southern. areas—largely staying areas of england largely staying dry areas of england largely staying bew wbb— areas of england largely staying bew wbb seme— areas of england largely staying dry with some sunny spells . dry with some sunny spells. bebeeebbw— dry with some sunny spells. noticeably fresher, though, for a noticeably fresher, though, for e beb— noticeably fresher, though, for e be ee— noticeably fresher, though, for e be er — noticeably fresher, though, for a lot of us. temperatures gemerebbw— a lot of us. temperatures generally around the high teens in generally around the high teens m be— generally around the high teens in the north—west— generally around the high teens in the north—west close towards bew— in the north—west close towards bew-zes— in the north—west close towards low-20s, further- in the north—west close towards low 20s, further towards low or mid 20s, further towards the low or mid 20s, further towards bbe seem— low or mid 20s, further towards the south and— low or mid 20s, further towards the south and east. the showers wbb— the south and east. the showers wbb ebe— the south and east. the showers wbb ebe eb— the south and east. the showers will die off as— the south and east. the showers will die off as we— the south and east. the showers will die off as we head into bembew— will die off as we head into monday evening and allow rebebwebw— monday evening and allow relatively fine— monday evening and allow relatively fine end to the day. beb— relatively fine end to the day. beb ee— relatively fine end to the day. but come the _ relatively fine end to the day. but come the second half of the mbgbb— but come the second half of the mgnr.-gemg— but come the second half of the mbgbb-gemg be— but come the second half of the night,-going to see- but come the second half of the night, going to see a band night, we're going to see a band of night, we're going to see a band ee—wew— night, we're going to see a band ee—wew kme- of rain push its way into beebbem— of rain push its way into northern-and. of rain push its way into northern and it of rain push its way into- northern _and it then northern ireland and it then beees— northern ireland and it then becomes a damp for western becomes a damp start for western seebemb—embl scotland, northern england and mee— scotland, northern england and me wees.— scotland, northern england and into wales. and— scotland, northern england and into wales. and rain will into wales. and that rain will eembmee— into wales. and that rain will continue-push— into wales. and that rain will continue push through during continue to push through during the continue to push through during bbe-rbe— continue to push through during bbe-rbe mesb— continue to push through during the the most persistent and the day. the most persistent and beeww— the day. the most persistent and beeww-bems— the day. the most persistent and beeww-bems ee- heavy bursts for parts of merbb—wesb— heavy bursts for parts of north—west-,l heavy bursts for parts of- north—west-, north—west north—west scotland, north—west bmgbemb—wrebesl north—west scotland, north—west bmgbemb—wrebes -i north—west scotland, north—west. england _wales . it england and north—west wales. it will england and north—west wales. it wbb bem— england and north—west wales. it will turn patchier_ england and north—west wales. it will turn patchier further to me— will turn patchier further to bbe-emb— will turn patchier further to the and actually southern the east and actually southern areas—towards- the east and actually southern areas—towards the. areas of england towards the seebb—eesb— areas of england towards the south—east-stay- areas of england towards the south—east stay dry south—east may stay dry rbreegbeeb— south—east may stay dry throughout day, but still throughout the day, but still rebber— throughout the day, but still rather compared rather cloudy compared to of bebe — rather cloudy compared to of bebe .— rather cloudy compared to of bebe . mer— rather cloudy compared to of late . that continues to late. that rain continues to besb— late. that rain continues to bese-meeeb- late. that rain continues to push through, but push its way through, but mere-s— push its way through, but- there's—fronts there's further weather fronts emb— there's further weather fronts emb bew— there's further weather fronts and low pressure— there's further weather fronts and low pressure systems waiting in and low pressure systems waiting be me— and low pressure systems waiting m be wmgs— and low pressure systems waiting in the wings out— and low pressure systems waiting in the wings out atlantic in the wings out in the atlantic to in the wings out in the atlantic be bemg— in the wings out in the atlantic to bring-relatively- in the wings out in the atlantic to bring relatively unsettled to bring us relatively unsettled eemebbems— to bring us relatively unsettled conditions—resti conditions throughout the rest of conditions throughout the rest ee-week. — conditions throughout the rest ee-week. se— conditions throughout the rest of week. so further rain at of the week. so further rain at bmes— of the week. so further rain at times, temperatures around the high—
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