draghi eyeing up plans to tories draghi eyeing up plans to let children— tories draghi eyeing up plans to let children change their sex at school— let children change their sex at school .— let children change their sex at school . woo-o— let children change their sex at school . who's going to save our school. who's going to save our ollllron— school. who's going to save our children from _ school. who's going to save our children from this— school. who's going to save our children from this dangerous poll— children from this dangerous poll .— path. so. path. so a path-- so a busy poll- so a busy two poll— so a busy two hours to come pool.— so a busy two hours to come get the lemo— so a busy two hours to come get the kettle on— so a busy two hours to come get the kettle on, get— so a busy two hours to come get the kettle on, get the kids in bed:— the kettle on, get the kids in loo, onl— the kettle on, get the kids in lol, and l-ll— the kettle on, get the kids in bed, and i'll see— the kettle on, get the kids in bed, and i'll see you after the loolllnoo— bed, and i'll see you after the headlines with— bed, and i'll see you after the headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. manl— headlines with aaron armstrong. thank you— headlines with aaron armstrong. thank you very— headlines with aaron armstrong. thank you very much, mark. aaron— thank you very much, mark. aaron armstrong— thank you very much, mark. aaron armstrong here- thank you very much, mark. aaron armstrong here in- thank you very much, mark. aaron armstrong here in the gb news room. good evening to you. the attempted mutiny in russia has exposed cracks in has exposed real cracks in vladimir putin's authority. that's according to the us secretary of state, the leader of the wagner group, yevgeny prigozhin, fighters prigozhin, ordered his fighters to halt their march on moscow and withdraw from rostov in an amnesty deal, which will result in his exile to belarus. antony blinken says the turmoil caused by the rebellion could take months to play out. but is

likely to affect moscow's capabilities in ukraine. to the extent this presents a distraction, a loss of focus for the russians that may help the ukrainians on the battlefield and exactly where this goes , we and exactly where this goes, we don't know. but what we do know is don't know. but what we do know lo mol— don't know. but what we do know lo loot loo-o— don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen— don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen real— 2 " c but what we do know is that we've seen real cracks emeee— is that we've seen real cracks emege .— is that we've seen real cracks emege . agom— is that we've seen real cracks emege . agom o— is that we've seen real cracks emerge . again, a direct emerge. again, a direct emollemge— emerge. again, a direct challenge to- emerge. again, a direct challenge to putin's authority . challenge to putin's authority. now:— challenge to putin's authority. new. wmle— challenge to putin's authority. now, while the— challenge to putin's authority. now, while the immediate- challenge to putin's authority. now, while the immediate risk to president putin appears to have been contained, emergency security measures remain in place in moscow. as russian journalist alexei we're told gb news earlier, everything is has been resolved. it seems that the eoroerroorre— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has— been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has been— " 2 it seems that the catastrophe has been avoided. we erlll— catastrophe has been avoided. we erlll lo— catastrophe has been avoided. we erlll do more— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some— catastrophe has been avoided. we still do have some extra law enforcement— still do have some extra law enforcement here on the streets ml— enforcement here on the streets ml they— enforcement here on the streets ml lley ore— enforcement here on the streets and they are wearing some heavy gear— and they are wearing some heavy geor lor— and they are wearing some heavy gear for example,— and they are wearing some heavy gear for example, bullet—proof reele— gear for example, bullet—proof vesls ml— gear for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets. they have moelme— vests and helmets. they have moemme gums— vests and helmets. they have machine guns, which which is uusul lul— machine guns, which which is unusual, but as— machine guns, which which is unusual, but as you can see mere,— unusual, but as you can see here llle— unusual, but as you can see here, life lviv_ unusual, but as you can see here, life lviv continues the slluollom— here, life lviv continues the situation here _ here, life lviv continues the situation here in— here, life lviv continues the situation here in downtown moscow— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't— situation here in downtown moscow doesn't see many any llllereml— moscow doesn't see many any different from _ moscow doesn't see many any

different from the— moscow doesn't see many any different from the usual the red square— different from the usual the red sguore ls— different from the usual the red square is still— different from the usual the red square is still closed, but but oller— square is still closed, but but olmer llam— square is still closed, but but other than that,— square is still closed, but but other than that, everything seemslme— other than that, everything seems fine . _ other than that, everything seems fine. a- other than that, everything seems fine. ' �*l: other than that, everything seems fine . ' �*l: r:::r2 other than that, everything seems fine . ' �*l: 2 lg 1 seems fine. a 15 year old girl has died after being pulled from the sea at cleethorpes beach in lincolnshire. a 15 year old boy who was also airlifted to hospital has since been discharged . separately, a five discharged. separately, a five year old boy has died after falling from a harbour wall in the cornish town of padstow. police treating both police are treating both incidents as accidental . the incidents as accidental. the duchess of york is recuperating following a successful operation to treat breast cancer. sarah ferguson , who was recently ferguson, who was recently diagnosed with an early form of cancer after a routine mammogram having been symptom free, she was released from hospital earlier and is now recovering with her family in windsor. the met office is warning people to enjoy the good weather . at the enjoy the good weather. at the moment responsibly. it is after the forecaster recorded the joint hottest temperature of the year earlier with 32.2 degrees in coningsby in lincolnshire , a in coningsby in lincolnshire, a thunderstorms and heavy showers

are expected, though later on in some parts of the country . and some parts of the country. and in about a couple of hours time it will be goodbye yellow brick road in this country, at least eight. sir elton john is closing glastonbury by headlining the pyramid stage . it will be his pyramid stage. it will be his final uk gig 53 years after his first. now it should be underway any time now, sir. elton's promised several special guests , one of them rumoured to be sir paul mccartney . he's also paul mccartney. he's also promised to open with a song that he hasn't played in the last ten years. and that is rumoured to be pinball wizard . rumoured to be pinball wizard. speaking of which, now it's over to . to. mark who to. mark. iwho needs lo. morl— . who needs elton? i'm to. mark who needs elton? i'm still - who needs elton? i'm still slomllmg— . who needs elton? i'm still standing. welcome— . who needs elton? i'm still standing. welcome to- who needs elton? i'm still standing. welcome to mark dolan lomgll— standing. welcome to mark dolan lomlgll m— standing. welcome to mark dolan lomlgml lm my— standing. welcome to mark dolan lomlgml lm mg mg— standing. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, polllleloms— tonight in my big opinion, politicians have not been slrolgll— politicians have not been straight with— politicians have not been straight with us about the eomoy— straight with us about the economy and— straight with us about the economy and now we're all paying

the economy and now we're all paying lee-erllom-s— economy and now we're all paying the-britain's broke. - economy and now we're all paying the britain's broke. but the price. britain's broke. but i'll the price. britain's broke. but r-ll le— the price. britain's broke. but ru be telling— the price. britain's broke. but i'll be telling you how we fix it i'll be telling you how we fix ll m— i'll be telling you how we fix ll lm me— i'll be telling you how we fix ll lm lle mg— i'll be telling you how we fix it in the big story. why are the govemmeml— it in the big story. why are the government slapping a green levy of government slapping a green levy ol floo— government slapping a green levy ol lrlo om— government slapping a green levy of £170 on hard— government slapping a green levy of £170 on hard pressed brits ml— of £170 on hard pressed brits ml os— of £170 on hard pressed brits ml es el— of £170 on hard pressed brits and as gb news— of £170 on hard pressed brits and as gb news star lee anderson sols— and as gb news star lee anderson sms me— and as gb news star lee anderson sms lle mell— and as gb news star lee anderson says, the next election will be leellel— says, the next election will be leellel om — says, the next election will be decided on the— says, the next election will be decided on the culture wars. r-ll— decided on the culture wars. r-ll le— decided on the culture wars. i'll be asking— decided on the culture wars. i'll be asking bestselling polllles— i'll be asking bestselling politics professor matthew eoolum— politics professor matthew goodwin all— politics professor matthew goodwin all about it . my mark goodwin all about it. my mark meels— goodwin all about it. my mark meels guesl— goodwin all about it. my mark meets guest is— goodwin all about it. my mark meets guest is a— goodwin all about it. my mark meets guest is a survivor on a rose— meets guest is a survivor on a rose rm— meets guest is a survivor on a rose rm am— meets guest is a survivor on a 1986 pan am flight whose life someo— 1986 pan am flight whose life somel ly— 1986 pan am flight whose life somel lg o— 1986 pan am flight whose life was spared by a terrorist on loom.— was spared by a terrorist on loml. re— was spared by a terrorist on board. he reveals why and tells his incredible— board. he reveals why and tells his incredible story before the eel— his incredible story before the eel ol— his incredible story before the eel ol me— his incredible story before the end of the hour.— his incredible story before the end of the hour. the guy is a wollmg— end of the hour. the guy is a walking miracle.— end of the hour. the guy is a walking miracle. you won't want to walking miracle. you won't want lo mss— walking miracle. you won't want lo ll.— walking miracle. you won't want lo l. l— walking miracle. you won't want to miss it. it might— walking miracle. you won't want to miss it. it might take at lem— to miss it. it might take at lem. why— to miss it. it might take at lem. mm me— to miss it. it might take at ten. why are tories drawing up plans— ten. why are tories drawing up olms lo— ten. why are tories drawing up glms lo lel— ten. why are tories drawing up plans to let children change merr— plans to let children change llelr se— plans to let children change llelr ol— plans to let children change their sex at school? who's going to their sex at school? who's going lo sme— their sex at school? who's going to save our children from this dangerous— to save our children from this dangerous path?— to save our children from this dangerous path? and seven years on, dangerous path? and seven years lrom — dangerous path? and seven years on, from brexit,_ dangerous path? and seven years on, from brexit, with the loslesl— on, from brexit, with the fastest growth - on, from brexit, with the fastest growth in the g7 over me— fastest growth in the g7 over lle losl— fastest growth in the g7 over lle losl loo— fastest growth in the g7 over the last two years, record trade ulll — the last two years, record trade ulll lle — the last two years, record trade ulll lle lu — the last two years, record trade with the eu and— the last two years, record trade with the eu and with britain mollmg— with the eu and with britain avoiding recession. unlike the eurozone , have— avoiding recession. unlike the eurozone , have remainers been eurozone, have remainers been proved— eurozone, have remainers been grovel wroug— eurozone, have remainers been grovel wromg al— eurozone, have remainers been proved wrong at last i'll be

oslmg— proved wrong at last i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, oolllles— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend— asking tonight's newsmaker, politics legend ann widdecombe, morl— politics legend ann widdecombe, rlml dolm— politics legend ann widdecombe, mark dolan tonight is the home of mark dolan tonight is the home ol me— mark dolan tonight is the home or me pagers— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with— mark dolan tonight is the home of the papers with tomorrow's lroml— of the papers with tomorrow's lroml gages— of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from _ of the papers with tomorrow's front pages from 1030 with three top front pages from 1030 with three log pumllls— front pages from 1030 with three log gumllls omo— front pages from 1030 with three top pundits who haven't been loll— top pundits who haven't been loll urol— top pundits who haven't been loll ulol lo— top pundits who haven't been told what to say— top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't lollou— told what to say and who don't lollou me— told what to say and who don't follow the script— told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight, annunciato _ follow the script tonight, annunciato rees—mogg, nigel nelson— annunciato rees—mogg, nigel nelson ml— annunciato rees—mogg, nigel nelson and neil— annunciato rees—mogg, nigel nelson and neil hamilton. lomlgll— nelson and neil hamilton. lomgml, r-ll— nelson and neil hamilton. tonight, ru be— nelson and neil hamilton. tonight, i'll be asking the pumllls— tonight, i'll be asking the gumllls rs— tonight, i'll be asking the pundits, is the— tonight, i'll be asking the pundits, is the nhs losing the war on obesity— pundits, is the nhs losing the war on obesity ?_ pundits, is the nhs losing the war on obesity ? should children war on obesity? should children be lmmel— war on obesity? should children be banned from _ war on obesity? should children be banned from weddings? and is mere— be banned from weddings? and is mere mylmmg— be banned from weddings? and is there anything wrong with sumlolmmg— there anything wrong with sunbathing naked in your back gmlem— sunbathing naked in your back gmlem elus— sunbathing naked in your back garden? plus your emails , garden? plus your emails, espeelolly— garden? plus your emails, especially the— garden? plus your emails, especially the spicy ones, mmlel— especially the spicy ones, market cbnnews.com. and this slow— market cbnnews.com. and this slow los— market cbnnews.com. and this slow mos o— market cbnnews.com. and this show has a golden rule. we don't do show has a golden rule. we don't lo lormg— show has a golden rule. we don't lo lormg .— show has a golden rule. we don't lo lormg . lol— show has a golden rule. we don't do boring . not on— show has a golden rule. we don't do boring . not on my watch. do boring. not on my watch. i lusl— do boring. not on my watch. i lusl mom-l— do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have— do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it.— do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. plus, i can sllll— just won't have it. plus, i can sllll ml— just won't have it. plus, i can sllll ml ell— just won't have it. plus, i can still hit all the— just won't have it. plus, i can still hit all the high notes. a very— still hit all the high notes. a very lousy— still hit all the high notes. a very lusy loo— still hit all the high notes. a very busy two hours to come. we slml— very busy two hours to come. we slml lull— very busy two hours to come. we slml roll my— very busy two hours to come. we slml ullm my mg— very busy two hours to come. we start with my big opinion . we start with my big opinion. we all start with my big opinion. we oll love— start with my big opinion. we all have those— start with my big opinion. we all have those tipping point momem— all have those tipping point moments , don't we? when we moments, don't we? when we reollse— moments, don't we? when we realise something— moments, don't we? when we realise something isn't right mol— realise something isn't right mm you-e— realise something isn't right that you've crossed the line llle— that you've crossed the line llle mose— that you've crossed the line like those holiday snaps in

mmel— like those holiday snaps in mmel you— like those holiday snaps in which you suddenly realise it's llme— which you suddenly realise it's llme lo— which you suddenly realise it's llme lo go— which you suddenly realise it's llme lo go om— which you suddenly realise it's time to go on a— which you suddenly realise it's time to go on a diet? well, an umlollermg— time to go on a diet? well, an unflattering statistic about the uk eoomy— unflattering statistic about the uk economy slipped below the room— uk economy slipped below the rolm mls— uk economy slipped below the radar this week— uk economy slipped below the radar this week amid all the molse— radar this week amid all the noise around— radar this week amid all the noise around interest rates and vlollmlr— noise around interest rates and vladimir putin's— noise around interest rates and vladimir putin's short lived army— vladimir putin's short lived army rebellion— vladimir putin's short lived army rebellion ._ vladimir putin's short lived army rebellion . it's the army rebellion. it's the morrllymg— army rebellion. it's the horrifying statistic that the uls— horrifying statistic that the us lolol— horrifying statistic that the uk's total government debt reomel— uk's total government debt reached more— uk's total government debt reached more than 100% of the se— reached more than 100% of the ol— reached more than 100% of the ol lle — reached more than 100% of the size of the economy in may. slllmg— size of the economy in may. slllmg ol— size of the economy in may. slllmg ol o— size of the economy in may. sitting at a terrifying £2.6 lrllllom— sitting at a terrifying £2.6 trillion. yes— sitting at a terrifying £2.6 trillion. yes you need the word lrllllom— trillion. yes you need the word lrllllom mou— trillion. yes you need the word trillion now because billion iusl— trillion now because billion lusl loesm-l— trillion now because billion just doesn't cut— trillion now because billion just doesn't cut it . the debt just doesn't cut it. the debt ole— just doesn't cut it. the debt ole ls— just doesn't cut it. the debt pile ls mou— just doesn't cut it. the debt pile is now 100.1% of the emom-s— pile is now 100.1% of the nation's gross— pile is now 100.1% of the nation's gross domestic product. we me— nation's gross domestic product. we m— nation's gross domestic product. we lm me— nation's gross domestic product. we are in the full— nation's gross domestic product. we are in the full throes of a orolouml— we are in the full throes of a profound economic crisis , raging profound economic crisis, raging lmlollom— profound economic crisis, raging inflation, soaring— profound economic crisis, raging inflation, soaring debt and mleresl— inflation, soaring debt and interest rates— inflation, soaring debt and interest rates rising. exponential really impacting morlgoge— exponential really impacting mortgage holders and sucking money— mortgage holders and sucking momey oul— mortgage holders and sucking momey oul ol— mortgage holders and sucking money out of the— mortgage holders and sucking money out of the economy as people— money out of the economy as people pav— money out of the economy as people pay more_ money out of the economy as people pay more on home loans roller— people pay more on home loans roller llm— people pay more on home loans rather than purchase goods and semlees— rather than purchase goods and services. rents— rather than purchase goods and services. rents in— rather than purchase goods and services. rents in our great ellles— services. rents in our great cities already— services. rents in our great cities already pay too much

llmls— cities already pay too much llmls lo— cities already pay too much thanks to the _ cities already pay too much thanks to the failure of successive _ thanks to the failure of successive governments to build, baby,— successive governments to build, lolly, lull— successive governments to build, lolly, lulll ml— successive governments to build, baby, build and they will be lurller— baby, build and they will be further impacted as landlords poss— further impacted as landlords loss mleresl— further impacted as landlords pass interest rate increases omo— pass interest rate increases ollo llem— pass interest rate increases onto them, reap- pass interest rate increases onto them, reap possessions will omel— onto them, reap possessions will increase, which is— onto them, reap possessions will increase, which is a— onto them, reap possessions will increase, which is a tragedy for the increase, which is a tragedy for lle lomllles— increase, which is a tragedy for the families and— increase, which is a tragedy for the families and individuals lmolvel— the families and individuals lmolvel .— the families and individuals involved . and— the families and individuals involved . and the dream of home involved. and the dream of home oulerslm— involved. and the dream of home ormersllp slos— involved. and the dream of home ownership slips further from the reall— ownership slips further from the reoel ol— ownership slips further from the reach of millions— ownership slips further from the reach of millions of brits of course we know— reach of millions of brits of course we know how we got here. you— course we know how we got here. you yems— course we know how we got here. you yems ml— course we know how we got here. you years and years— course we know how we got here. you years and years of money prmlmg— you years and years of money prmlmg ,— you years and years of money printing , thanks— you years and years of money printing , thanks to the likes of printing, thanks to the likes of ex—governor of— printing, thanks to the likes of ex—governor of the bank of llglml— ex—governor of the bank of england, mark— ex—governor of the bank of england, mark carney, who lllmously— england, mark carney, who hilariously blames brexit. of course he does— hilariously blames brexit. of course he does ._ hilariously blames brexit. of course he does . of course, what course he does. of course, what it course he does. of course, what ll really— course he does. of course, what ll really was— course he does. of course, what it really was was— course he does. of course, what it really was was the bonkers leelslol— it really was was the bonkers leelslol lo— it really was was the bonkers decision to borrow half £1 lrllllol— decision to borrow half £1 trillion in— decision to borrow half £1 trillion in a— decision to borrow half £1 trillion in a wildly failed experiment— trillion in a wildly failed experiment to- trillion in a wildly failed experiment to stop a seasonal resglrolory— experiment to stop a seasonal resglrolory wrus— experiment to stop a seasonal respiratory virus ._ experiment to stop a seasonal respiratory virus . this one respiratory virus. this one golelllolly— respiratory virus. this one potentially nasty. yes but mild or lol—lolol— potentially nasty. yes but mild or non—fatal to— potentially nasty. yes but mild or non—fatal to most. let's not lorgel— or non—fatal to most. let's not lorgel ,— or non—fatal to most. let's not lorgel , we— or non—fatal to most. let's not lorgel , we gell— or non—fatal to most. let's not forget , we paid perfectly forget, we paid perfectly leollly— forget, we paid perfectly healthy people a large portion of healthy people a large portion ol llelr— healthy people a large portion of their salaries— healthy people a large portion of their salaries to stay at lome— of their salaries to stay at lome. well— of their salaries to stay at home. well done , everyone. so home. well done, everyone. so wlere— home. well done, everyone. so wlere lo— home. well done, everyone. so wlere lo we— home. well done, everyone. so wlere lo we go— home. well done, everyone. so where do we go from here? well, it where do we go from here? well, ll eoulll-l— where do we go from here? well, ll eoulll-l le— where do we go from here? well, it couldn't be simpler. it's

llme— it couldn't be simpler. it's llme lor— it couldn't be simpler. it's llme lor m— it couldn't be simpler. it's time for an all— it couldn't be simpler. it's time for an all out war on lmlollom— time for an all out war on inflation, because this evil sleolll — inflation, because this evil stealth tax _ inflation, because this evil stealth tax is— inflation, because this evil stealth tax is like an atomic lroml— stealth tax is like an atomic bomb .— stealth tax is like an atomic bomb . ll— stealth tax is like an atomic bomb . it nukes— stealth tax is like an atomic bomb . it nukes the whole economy bomb. it nukes the whole economy , sollmg— bomb. it nukes the whole economy , spllmg lle— bomb. it nukes the whole economy , spiking the costs— bomb. it nukes the whole economy , spiking the costs of— bomb. it nukes the whole economy , spiking the costs of goods wllle— , spiking the costs of goods while reducing— , spiking the costs of goods while reducing the value of oey — while reducing the value of oey all— while reducing the value of money. and the— while reducing the value of money. and the only lever one wlll— money. and the only lever one which should— money. and the only lever one which should have been pulled by that which should have been pulled by llol prize— which should have been pulled by llol prize lumpy.— which should have been pulled by that prize numpty. andrew bailey at that prize numpty. andrew bailey ol lle— that prize numpty. andrew bailey ol lle loll— that prize numpty. andrew bailey ol lle lml ol— that prize numpty. andrew bailey at the bank of england years ago is at the bank of england years ago lslerml— at the bank of england years ago lslerml up— at the bank of england years ago islcrank up interest— at the bank of england years ago is crank up interest rates. is to crank up interest rates. lle— is to crank up interest rates. the government— is to crank up interest rates. the government are effectively going— the government are effectively gomg lo— the government are effectively gomg lo lowe— the government are effectively gomg lo lme lo— the government are effectively going to have to damage the lousmg— going to have to damage the housing market— going to have to damage the housing market and may need to more or less provoke a recession loler— more or less provoke a recession loler llls— more or less provoke a recession loler llls yem— more or less provoke a recession loler llls yem ly— more or less provoke a recession later this year by design, in order— later this year by design, in orler lo— later this year by design, in order to tackle— later this year by design, in order to tackle the tsunami of rlsmg— order to tackle the tsunami of rlsmg rules.— order to tackle the tsunami of rising prices. this— order to tackle the tsunami of rising prices. this may seem lroslle— rising prices. this may seem lroslle or— rising prices. this may seem drastic or even— rising prices. this may seem drastic or even reckless , but so drastic or even reckless, but so goes— drastic or even reckless, but so loes eloggmg— drastic or even reckless, but so does chopping your leg off until it does chopping your leg off until ll lems— does chopping your leg off until it means saving— does chopping your leg off until it means saving your life. we all mow— it means saving your life. we all know about— it means saving your life. we all know about rishi sunaks five plelges— all know about rishi sunaks five plelges ml— all know about rishi sunaks five plelges ml ly— all know about rishi sunaks five pledges and by far , the most pledges and by far, the most lmoorlml— pledges and by far, the most important one— pledges and by far, the most important one is— pledges and by far, the most important one is to tackle mllollol. — important one is to tackle inflation. rising inflation is a welous— inflation. rising inflation is a vicious circle,— inflation. rising inflation is a vicious circle, but falling orlees— vicious circle, but falling orlees ls— vicious circle, but falling orlees ls o— vicious circle, but falling prices is a virtuous one, in wlll— prices is a virtuous one, in wllel gools— prices is a virtuous one, in which goods become easier to buy and which goods become easier to buy ml lle— which goods become easier to buy ml lle value— which goods become easier to buy and the value of— which goods become easier to buy and the value of people's wage mmels— and the value of people's wage pmlels ml— and the value of people's wage packets and the— and the value of people's wage packets and the pound in their ooelel— packets and the pound in their ooelel ls— packets and the pound in their pocket is increases in value.

llgl— pocket is increases in value. high inflation— pocket is increases in value. high inflation is— pocket is increases in value. high inflation is a lose lose low— high inflation is a lose lose low inflation— high inflation is a lose lose low inflation is— high inflation is a lose lose low inflation is a win win. high inflation is a lose lose low inflation is a win win . it's low inflation is a win win. it's me— low inflation is a win win. it's lle ulllmole— low inflation is a win win. it's the ultimate tax— low inflation is a win win. it's the ultimate tax cut , which is the ultimate tax cut, which is why— the ultimate tax cut, which is wly m— the ultimate tax cut, which is wly m o— the ultimate tax cut, which is wly m o luge— the ultimate tax cut, which is why in a huge test of his leolersllru— why in a huge test of his leadership, rishi sunak must slml— leadership, rishi sunak must slml up— leadership, rishi sunak must slml up lo— leadership, rishi sunak must stand up to the— leadership, rishi sunak must stand up to the union barons and met— stand up to the union barons and their inflation— stand up to the union barons and their inflation busting demands . is their inflation busting demands . rs llls— their inflation busting demands . is this whole— their inflation busting demands . is this whole story and the mllollol— . is this whole story and the inflation has— . is this whole story and the inflation has implications for pulle— inflation has implications for public sector— inflation has implications for public sector workers. wage lemmls— public sector workers. wage lemmls lo— public sector workers. wage demands to yield to what they're oslmg— demands to yield to what they're oslmg lor. — demands to yield to what they're asking for. we'll— demands to yield to what they're asking for. we'll see inflation omel— asking for. we'll see inflation omel mlo— asking for. we'll see inflation baked into the— asking for. we'll see inflation baked into the system for years to baked into the system for years lo ome— baked into the system for years lo wow,— baked into the system for years to come. now, the— baked into the system for years to come. now, the likes of nurses and teachers clearly lesewe— nurses and teachers clearly lesewe o— nurses and teachers clearly deserve a bump. they do great worl— deserve a bump. they do great work ,— deserve a bump. they do great work , lul— deserve a bump. they do great work , but the— deserve a bump. they do great work , but the government must, work, but the government must, musl— work, but the government must, musl slrlle— work, but the government must, musl slrlle o— work, but the government must, must strike a balance between mllwluol— must strike a balance between individual wage _ must strike a balance between individual wage demands and the mom— individual wage demands and the wller leels— individual wage demands and the wider needs of— individual wage demands and the wider needs of the— individual wage demands and the wider needs of the economy. loellmg — wider needs of the economy. lmllmg lle— wider needs of the economy. tackling the cost— wider needs of the economy. tackling the cost of living is me— tackling the cost of living is lle only— tackling the cost of living is the only show— tackling the cost of living is the only show in— tackling the cost of living is the only show in town on the mllollol— the only show in town on the inflation and— the only show in town on the inflation and the— the only show in town on the inflation and the national debt ml— inflation and the national debt ml sly— inflation and the national debt ml sly llgl— inflation and the national debt and sky high interest rates prowe— and sky high interest rates grove llm— and sky high interest rates prove that britain needs to elmge— prove that britain needs to change course.— prove that britain needs to change course. and it's not just wage— change course. and it's not just woge llselglme— change course. and it's not just wage discipline or— change course. and it's not just wage discipline or the painful mellowe— wage discipline or the painful melleme ol— wage discipline or the painful medicine of rate— wage discipline or the painful medicine of rate rises. there is oller— medicine of rate rises. there is one other issue— medicine of rate rises. there is one other issue that no oollllelm— one other issue that no politician in— one other issue that no politician in the country is mme— politician in the country is brave enough— politician in the country is

brave enough to tell you so i wlll— brave enough to tell you so i wlll lell— brave enough to tell you so i wlll lell you— brave enough to tell you so i will tell you ,_ brave enough to tell you so i will tell you , this country, will tell you, this country, llls— will tell you, this country, llls grem— will tell you, this country, this great country of ours, lwes— this great country of ours, lives beyond— this great country of ours, lives beyond its means. you mow,— lives beyond its means. you know moul— lives beyond its means. you know, about balancing household vou— know, about balancing household income. you know— know, about balancing household income. you know what's coming income. you know what's coming m ml— income. you know what's coming m ml wlll-s— income. you know what's coming in and what's going out. but llose— in and what's going out. but those wonderful— in and what's going out. but those wonderful wise people that lem— those wonderful wise people that lell us— those wonderful wise people that lell us me— those wonderful wise people that lell us happy— those wonderful wise people that lead us are happy on our behalf to lead us are happy on our behalf lo lwe— lead us are happy on our behalf lo llwe ol— lead us are happy on our behalf to live on the— lead us are happy on our behalf to live on the never, never solllmg— to live on the never, never saddling future— to live on the never, never saddling future generations with lells— saddling future generations with lells ml— saddling future generations with debts and liabilities to pay for ourrell— debts and liabilities to pay for current commitments . yes, it's current commitments. yes, it's ulllmolely— current commitments. yes, it's ulllmolely o— current commitments. yes, it's ultimately a ponzi scheme so egreglous— ultimately a ponzi scheme so egreglous ll— ultimately a ponzi scheme so egregious it would have lolorous— egregious it would have notorious financial crook lemml— notorious financial crook bernard madoff blushing . so if bernard madoff blushing. so if youre— bernard madoff blushing. so if you're serious about tackling mllollom— you're serious about tackling inflation, reducing that debt ml— inflation, reducing that debt ml gellmg— inflation, reducing that debt and getting the country back omo— and getting the country back ollo o— and getting the country back onto a sustainable path, you're going— onto a sustainable path, you're gomg lo— onto a sustainable path, you're gomg lo lowe— onto a sustainable path, you're gomg lo lme lo— onto a sustainable path, you're going to have to cut, cut , cut. going to have to cut, cut, cut. lxlroorlmmy— going to have to cut, cut, cut. extraordinary waste in the pulle— extraordinary waste in the public sector. _ extraordinary waste in the public sector. yes. including lle— public sector. yes. including lle uls— public sector. yes. including the nhs must— public sector. yes. including the nhs must be addressed. people— the nhs must be addressed. people oroully— the nhs must be addressed. people proudly boast that our leolll— people proudly boast that our health service— people proudly boast that our health service is— people proudly boast that our health service is the biggest employer— health service is the biggest employer m— health service is the biggest employer in europe . that's not employer in europe. that's not somellmg— employer in europe. that's not somellmg lo— employer in europe. that's not something to celebrate. that's an admission— something to celebrate. that's an admission of— something to celebrate. that's an admission of its wild

inefficiency— an admission of its wild inefficiency ._ an admission of its wild inefficiency . we brought britain inefficiency. we brought britain leels— inefficiency. we brought britain leels lo— inefficiency. we brought britain leels lo go— inefficiency. we brought britain leels lo go ol— inefficiency. we brought britain needs to go on a— inefficiency. we brought britain needs to go on a financial and mel— needs to go on a financial and economic diet. it's— needs to go on a financial and economic diet. it's time to slim lowl— economic diet. it's time to slim down pulle— economic diet. it's time to slim down public spending and perform llposuellol— down public spending and perform llposuellol ol— down public spending and perform liposuction on our— down public spending and perform liposuction on our bloated pulle— liposuction on our bloated public services— liposuction on our bloated public services . britain needs public services. britain needs lougl— public services. britain needs some tough economic love, for ml— some tough economic love, for ml llose— some tough economic love, for and those that— some tough economic love, for and those that don't like it, lougl— and those that don't like it, lougl lull— and those that don't like it, lougl luel .— tough luck. your- tough luck. your reaction, tough luck.- your reaction, mark, lougl lull.— your reaction, mark, at gbnews.com- your reaction, mark, at gbnews.com let's get the views ol— gbnews.com let's get the views ol my— gbnews.com let's get the views or my lop— gbnews.com let's get the views now of my top pundits. i'm lellgllel— now of my top pundits. i'm delighted to— now of my top pundits. i'm delighted to welcome former mep and delighted to welcome former mep ml polllleol— delighted to welcome former mep and political commentator annunziata_ and political commentator annunziata rees—mogg , the leader annunziata rees—mogg, the leader of annunziata rees—mogg, the leader ol lle— annunziata rees—mogg, the leader ol lle wl— annunziata rees—mogg, the leader of the uk independence party. well— of the uk independence party. neil hamilton— of the uk independence party. neil hamilton ,_ of the uk independence party. neil hamilton , and gb news neil hamilton, and gb news sellor— neil hamilton, and gb news senior political— neil hamilton, and gb news senior political commentator wlgel— senior political commentator wlgel welsol— senior political commentator wlgel welsol .— senior political commentator nigel nelson . neil hamilton, let nigel nelson. neil hamilton, let me slml— nigel nelson. neil hamilton, let me slml wlll— nigel nelson. neil hamilton, let me start with you— nigel nelson. neil hamilton, let me start with you ._ nigel nelson. neil hamilton, let me start with you . the elephant me start with you. the elephant in me start with you. the elephant m we— me start with you. the elephant m lle oom— me start with you. the elephant m lle ls— me start with you. the elephant in the room is that— me start with you. the elephant in the room is that this country llwes— in the room is that this country lwes leyoll— in the room is that this country lives beyond its— in the room is that this country lives beyond its means. well, llol-s— lives beyond its means. well, llol-slrue. — lives beyond its means. well, that's true. 2 that's true. government borrowing is still huge, 100 billion a year. you know, these are colossal sums which even 20

years ago we would have had virtual heart failure to accept. and here's the thing. it's unethical , and here's the thing. it's unethical, isn't it, to- ' 2 2 it's unethical, isn't it, to saddle llm— unethical, isn't it, to saddle llol lell— unethical, isn't it, to saddle that debt onto— unethical, isn't it, to saddle that debt onto future generations. e 2 generations. it's grossly immoral . but generations. it's grossly immoral. but of course, governments of all persuasions at various times have risen to this practise with . one this practise with. one honourable exception being the thatcher government in the 19805, thatcher government in the 1980s, where we got the public sector finances under control and had a virtual virtuous circle of lower taxes , higher circle of lower taxes, higher growth and therefore we kept pubuc growth and therefore we kept public spending growing but not increasing the government deficit. so that's what we need to get back to. but i see no signs of any of the current major parties having any idea how to do that. yes, indeed. well, that's the concern. nigel nelson, british _ well, that's the concern. nigel nelson, british is— well, that's the concern. nigel nelson, british is broke- ff nigel nelson, british is broke and gol— nelson, british is broke and gol lo— nelson, british is broke and we've got to talk about public spellmg. — we've got to talk about public spellmg. we— we've got to talk about public spending. we live beyond our means. well,— spending. we live beyond our means. well, there- spending. we live beyond our means. t0:2:2; :t:2; spending. we live beyond our means. well, there are other ways of getting inflation down, obviously, that the bluntest tool is simply to raise interest rates, which is what they're

doing. you rates, which is what they're doing . you mentioned, in fact, doing. you mentioned, in fact, wlge— doing. you mentioned, in fact, woge lemmls— doing. you mentioned, in fact, wage demands as— r2r2r 23 you mentioned, in fact, wage demands as being one of the mem— wage demands as being one of the lrlwers ol— wage demands as being one of the drivers of inflation,— wage demands as being one of the drivers of inflation, which youre— drivers of inflation, which you're absolutely right it is. lul— you're absolutely right it is. lul lle— you're absolutely right it is. but the reason— you're absolutely right it is. but the reason for that is a really— but the reason for that is a really llgll— but the reason for that is a really tight labour market. so wages— really tight labour market. so woges ,— really tight labour market. so woges , wages— really tight labour market. so wages , wages are running about wages, wages are running about lelweel— wages, wages are running about lelweel slo— wages, wages are running about between six and— wages, wages are running about between six and 8% a year, and llol-s— between six and 8% a year, and that's because— between six and 8% a year, and that's because employers need to mluolly— that's because employers need to mluolly orler— that's because employers need to actually offer them _ that's because employers need to actually offer them to get worersl— actually offer them to get workers in.— actually offer them to get workers in. now, we could do we come— workers in. now, we could do we eoull lo— workers in. now, we could do we eoull lo some— workers in. now, we could do we could do some unpopular things. we could do some unpopular things. we could— could do some unpopular things. we could relax— could do some unpopular things. we could relax immigration rules , lrmg— we could relax immigration rules , lrmg m— we could relax immigration rules , lrmg m lorelgl— we could relax immigration rules , bring in foreign workers who woull— , bring in foreign workers who would le— , bring in foreign workers who would be cheaper for that, would lower— would be cheaper for that, would lower wages— would be cheaper for that, would lower woges .— would be cheaper for that, would lower wages . you— would be cheaper for that, would lower wages . you could also take lower wages. you could also take mmey— lower wages. you could also take money oul— lower wages. you could also take money oul ol— lower wages. you could also take money out of the— lower wages. you could also take money out of the economy by rmsmg— money out of the economy by relsmg lees— money out of the economy by raising taxes. but— money out of the economy by raising taxes. but the tories lol— raising taxes. but the tories lol gomg— raising taxes. but the tories are not going to— raising taxes. but the tories are not going to either are not going to do either leeuse— are not going to do either because-are- are not going to do either because are pretty because both are pretty unpopulm— because both are pretty unpopular.-of- because both are pretty unpopular. of course, unpopular. well, of course, lexes— unpopular. well, of course, taxes—about. unpopular. well, of course,i taxes—about the taxes are currently about the llglesl— taxes are currently about the highest - since - taxes are currently about the highest since the war, so highest level since the war, so lley— highest level since the war, so lley eel-l— highest level since the war, so lley em-l go— highest level since the war, so they can't go much higher. even lel— they can't go much higher. even lelr slermer— they can't go much higher. even keir starmer has— they can't go much higher. even keir starmer has said— they can't go much higher. even keir starmer has said he won't raise the top rate of tax should he 10. but don't he get into number 10. but don't you time politicians you think it's time politicians were situation were honest about the situation ? bnan were honest about the situation ? brian well, i think they're lemg— being honest about it in the sense-inflate- being honest about it in the sense-inflate is- being honest about it in the sense inflate is a real sense that inflate is a real problem. — sense that inflate is a real problem. and— sense that inflate is a real problem. and people i don't know sense that inflate is a real problethat. i people i don't know sense that inflate is a real problethat. 3eople i don't know sense that inflate is a real problethat. i don't know sense that inflate is a real problethat. g�*fj�*eflllt know sense that inflate is a real- problethat. i mean, your materw about that. i mean, your mate keir starmer, going to be keir starmer, he's going to be splashing when he gets splashing the cash when he gets into number 10. apparently all

the going the public sector are going to get there's going to get a pay rise. there's going to be investment green be huge investment in green technologies, renewables. it's going well, the going to be a bonanza. well, the argument going to be a bonanza. well, the ergumell—llel- argument is that the that with the argument is that the that with lle green— argument is that the that with the green technology dodi, he les— has actually rowed back about spellmg—ll- has actually rowed back about spellmg—ll lorl spending 28 billion on it for me— spending 28 billion on it for the -another- spending 28 billion on it for. the -another u—turn, the first year. another u—turn, wlll— the first year. another u—turn, wllellwes— the first year. another u—turn, which was disappointed which i was a bit disappointed moul— which i was a bit disappointed eloul-sey. - which i was a bit disappointed about,-say. but- which i was a bit disappointed about, say. but the about, i have to say. but the wlole— about, i have to say. but the wlole poml— about, i have to say. but the whole point about that is that llel— whole point about that is that llel-wey— whole point about that is that that-way towards- whole point about that is that that way towards economic that is the way towards economic growll. — that is the way towards economic growll. -lellewe — that is the way towards economic growth. - believe lthe - growth. if you believe in the wee—green- idea that we need green mluslry— idea that we need green mluslry, you— idea that we need green industry, you invest in that . it industry, you invest in that. it woull— industry, you invest in that. it would create— industry, you invest in that. it would create at— industry, you invest in that. it would create at least 65,000 tops— would create at least 65,000 tops lo— would create at least 65,000 tops lo legm— would create at least 65,000 jobs to begin with. and if that worsl— jobs to begin with. and if that worsl llel— jobs to begin with. and if that works, then economic growth lollows— works, then economic growth lollows . — works, then economic growth follows . ' \r \er ' ' works, then economic growth follows . ' \ xww ' ' eifizgé works, then economic growth follows. '\ xww ' ' elfiiilfl follows. annunziata surely we need to be a business friendly , need to be a business friendly, open, free economy in order for companies to want to invest here. and at the moment we're not.— here. and at the moment we're not. we-re— here. and at the moment we're not. we're taxing— "mi; and at the moment we're not. we're taxing above our competitors— not. we're taxing above our competitors .— not. we're taxing above our competitors . we- not. we're taxing above our competitors . we are pricing competitors. we are pricing ourselves out— competitors. we are pricing ourselves out of— competitors. we are pricing ourselves out of the market. our labour— ourselves out of the market. our labour costs— ourselves out of the market. our labour costs are— ourselves out of the market. our labour costs are high. our energy— labour costs are high. our energy costs— labour costs are high. our energy costs are far higher than our competitors.— energy costs are far higher than our competitors. and our taxes are our competitors. and our taxes too— our competitors. and our taxes too high— our competitors. and our taxes too high oo— our competitors. and our taxes are too high as well. we need to grow,— are too high as well. we need to gmw, out— are too high as well. we need to grow, out we— are too high as well. we need to grow, but we need— are too high as well. we need to grow, but we need to allow isiiesses— grow, but we need to allow businesses to— grow, but we need to allow businesses to invest. so that we ani— businesses to invest. so that we ani isos— businesses to invest. so that we can. and that is— businesses to invest. so that we can. and that is the— businesses to invest. so that we can. and that is the way out of iniioiion. — can. and that is the way out of inflation. absolutely right . inflation. absolutely right. ani— inflation. absolutely right. ami we— inflation. absolutely right. and we have— inflation. absolutely right. and we have the— inflation. absolutely right.

and we have the highest tax burden today since the attlee government in the late 1940s. and the way to get economic growth is not to have artificial , expensive energy . quite the , expensive energy. quite the opposite. the industrial revolution occurred because of britain's abundant and cheap energy in those days, of course, through coal and wood. today what we're doing in fact, is pricing ourselves out of world markets a mistake that india, china and all the other countries are very happy for us to take of self to take this sort of self harming approach , are very happy harming approach, are very happy to endorse and nunziata a shambles that this has happened on conservative watch. it is on the conservative watch. it is that i think that you— on the conservative watch. it is that i think that you have- iii" f m it is that i think that you have to sake— that i think that you have to take our— that i think that you have to take our fiscal— that i think that you have to take our fiscal policy and our monetary— take our fiscal policy and our moneioiy policy— take our fiscal policy and our monetary policy in combination oni— monetary policy in combination one she— monetary policy in combination and iiie ioni— monetary policy in combination and the bank of— monetary policy in combination and the bank of england has to siiouiiei— and the bank of england has to siiouiiei o— and the bank of england has to shoulder a lot— and the bank of england has to shoulder a lot of— and the bank of england has to shoulder a lot of this blame. quantitative _ shoulder a lot of this blame. quantitative easing - shoulder a lot of this blame. quantitative easing has- shoulder a lot of this blame. quantitative easing has fuelled it beyond belief to you right . it beyond belief to you right. nigel, final thought. yeah, wen.— nigel, final thought. yeah, weii. i— nigel, final thought. yeah, well, i mean,— nigel, final thought. yeah, well, i mean, just- nigel, final thought. yeah, well, i mean, just on the quantitative easing thing, again, was you'd again, there was once you'd actually given all that money dunng actually given all that money during whether you during covid, whether you believe was the right thing during covid, whether you be not. was the right thing during covid, whether you be not. 23% was the right thing during covid, whether you be not. 23% ofas the right thing during covid, whether you be not. 23% of our1e right thing during covid, whether you be not. 23% of our nationalhing or not. 23% of our national income compared to france at 13. once you've done that

quantitative easing was the only option. you're right, quantitative easing was the only option. you're right , the option. but you're right, the bank didn't actually act bank didn't didn't actually act early enough by raising interest rates they have rates when they should have done. after done. and never stopped after 2008, at anyway. it just carried on pumping— 2008, at anyway. it just carried on pumping oe— $2008 it just carried on pumping more money in. and of pious— on pumping more money in. and of course that's ended— on pumping more money in. and of course that's ended up which was ouoiiiei— course that's ended up which was ouoiiiei iime— course that's ended up which was another time when— course that's ended up which was another time when you actually ueeiei— another time when you actually ueeiei io — another time when you actually ueeiei io gei— another time when you actually needed to get the— another time when you actually needed to get the money into the economy. well, we've got in trouble the bankers. trouble again with the bankers. this time, the central bankers. wipi— this time, the central bankers. wees-impis— this time, the central bankers. l what-think7-britain what do you think? does britain live what do you think? does britain iive—meousi- what do you think? does britain live—means? its- live beyond its means? its meousi—uexil live beyond its means? its means?_next big means? coming up next in the big soro— means? coming up next in the big storm-are— means? coming up next in the big story-ore p..— means? coming up next in the big story, are the government story, why are the government sioppipp— story, why are the government sioppipp o— story, why are the government slapping a green— story, why are the government slapping a green levy of £170 on hori— slapping a green levy of £170 on here pressed— slapping a green levy of £170 on hard pressed brits— slapping a green levy of £170 on hard pressed brits ? aukus. plus, hard pressed brits? aukus. plus, by p..— hard pressed brits? aukus. plus, by use wavi— hard pressed brits? aukus. plus, by use woo. io— hard pressed brits? aukus. plus, by use woo. do you— hard pressed brits? aukus. plus, by the way, do you think the peso— by the way, do you think the next election,— by the way, do you think the next election, as— by the way, do you think the next election, as lee anderson says— next election, as lee anderson soys uiii— next election, as lee anderson says. uiii pe— next election, as lee anderson says, will be won— next election, as lee anderson says, will be won on so—called uokeism — says, will be won on so—called uokeism oni— says, will be won on so—called wokeism and the— says, will be won on so—called wokeism and the culture wars? i'll wokeism and the culture wars? in pe— wokeism and the culture wars? in be asking— wokeism and the culture wars? i'll be asking top— wokeism and the culture wars? i'll be asking top professor iioiiiieu— i'll be asking top professor matthew goodwin. all of that is

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households will pay a £170 a year green ievy— households will pay a £170 a year green levy on energy bills in year green levy on energy bills p. sie— year green levy on energy bills p. iiie coming— year green levy on energy bills in the coming days with rishi suspi— in the coming days with rishi suuok oni— in the coming days with rishi sunak and jeremy hunt, accused of siyiy— sunak and jeremy hunt, accused oi siyiy siiiiiipp— sunak and jeremy hunt, accused of slyly shifting costs back to consumers as— of slyly shifting costs back to consumers as the _ of slyly shifting costs back to consumers as the telegraph iepoii— consumers as the telegraph iepoii sippi— consumers as the telegraph report that the _ consumers as the telegraph report that the two year suspension— report that the two year suspension of- report that the two year suspension of green levies announced last— suspension of green levies announced last autumn is to end iron— announced last autumn is to end from ine— announced last autumn is to end from the beginning— announced last autumn is to end from the beginning of july, onen— from the beginning of july, oiien iusi— from the beginning of july, after just nine— from the beginning of july, after just nine months saddling afterjust nine months saddling noni— afterjust nine months saddling noni pressed— afterjust nine months saddling hard pressed brits with more cosi— hard pressed brits with more cost .— hard pressed brits with more cost. is— hard pressed brits with more cost. is unis— hard pressed brits with more cost. is this green levy iusiiiiei— cost. is this green levy justified 7— cost. is this green levy justified ? let's get the views justified? let's get the views oi— justified? let's get the views oi ine— justified? let's get the views now of the director of net zero. union— now of the director of net zero. watch andrew _ now of the director of net zero. watch andrew montfort. andrew, youn— watch andrew montfort. andrew, your neoeiion— watch andrew montfort. andrew, your reaction to— watch andrew montfort. andrew, your reaction to this ? your reaction to this? i see unis— your reaction to this? i see this as— your reaction to this? i see this as shuffling the deck chairs. actually, they they've novei— chairs. actually, they they've novei ii— chairs. actually, they they've moved it from _ chairs. actually, they they've moved it from tax— it“? actually, they they've moved it from tax payers to consumers. yes,— moved it from tax payers to consumers. yes, they they've iney-ve — consumers. yes, they they've iney-ve ined— consumers. yes, they they've they've tried to— consumers. yes, they they've they've tried to hide the fact ines— they've tried to hide the fact one iney-ve— they've tried to hide the fact that they've done it. this was none— that they've done it. this was done veno— that they've done it. this was done very. very— that they've done it. this was done very, very quietly . and a done very, very quietly. and a lot done very, very quietly. and a ioi oi— done very, very quietly. and a ioi of praise— done very, very quietly. and a lot of praise must— done very, very quietly. and a lot of praise must go to the ieiepnpn— lot of praise must go to the ieiepnopn ion— lot of praise must go to the telegraph for actually exposing unai— telegraph for actually exposing unoi iney-ve— telegraph for actually exposing what they've done . but in what they've done. but in neoiiiy— what they've done. but in neoiiiy ii-s— what they've done. but in reality it's not— what they've done. but in reality it's not really going to none— reality it's not really going to none o— reality it's not really going to none o ven— reality it's not really going to make a very great difference at all make a very great difference at oii peeouse— make a very great difference at all because it— make a very great difference at all because it is— make a very great difference at all because it is just the cost is siiii— all because it is just the cost is still there. _ all because it is just the cost is still there. it's— all because it is just the cost is still there. it's just been moved— is still there. it's just been moved from — is still there. it's just been moved from one- is still there. it's just been moved from one place to the one— moved from one place to the one .— moved from one place to the one . ani— moved from one place to the other . and at— moved from one place to the other . and at the- moved from one place to the other . and at the end of the other. and at the end of the

day,— other. and at the end of the ooy. you— other. and at the end of the ooy. you know,— other. and at the end of the day, you know, sort of continuing— day, you know, sort of continuing on from the what you spiking— continuing on from the what you were talking about— continuing on from the what you were talking about before the neon— were talking about before the neon ii— were talking about before the break, if we're _ were talking about before the break, if we're going to get iniioiion— break, if we're going to get inflation down,— break, if we're going to get inflation down, we need to get our inflation down, we need to get energy— inflation down, we need to get our energy costs— inflation down, we need to get our energy costs down, which union— our energy costs down, which union nneons— our energy costs down, which which means we— our energy costs down, which which means we have to actually reused— which means we have to actually reduce use the— which means we have to actually reduce use the underlying cost . reduce use the underlying cost. we eon-i— reduce use the underlying cost. we eon-i pe— reduce use the underlying cost. we can't be just— reduce use the underlying cost. we can't be just trying to hide inen. — we can't be just trying to hide inen. inop— we can't be just trying to hide them. that isn't— we can't be just trying to hide them. that isn't going to get us onyunene. — them. that isn't going to get us onynnene. so— them. that isn't going to get us anywhere. so if— them. that isn't going to get us anywhere. so if rishi sunak is serious about— anywhere. so if rishi sunak is serious about the— anywhere. so if rishi sunak is serious about the inflation pnoiien— serious about the inflation pmppem, ne— serious about the inflation problem, he needs to be looking at problem, he needs to be looking oi oeiuoiiy— problem, he needs to be looking at actually moving— problem, he needs to be looking at actually moving away from nenenoiies— at actually moving away from renewables because the evidence is non— renewables because the evidence is quite— renewables because the evidence is now quite clear— renewables because the evidence is now quite clear that that neneuoiies— is now quite clear that that renewables and— is now quite clear that that renewables and particularly wind power— renewables and particularly wind power are increasing expensive. inene— power are increasing expensive. inene nos— power are increasing expensive. inene nos been— power are increasing expensive. there has been a— power are increasing expensive. there has been a huge multi year eonpoien— there has been a huge multi year eonpoipn io— there has been a huge multi year campaign to convince the public ines— campaign to convince the public not wini— campaign to convince the public that wind power— campaign to convince the public that wind power is— campaign to convince the public that wind power is becoming veno— that wind power is becoming very. very— that wind power is becoming very. very eneop,— that wind power is becoming very, very cheap, cheap . and very, very cheap, cheap. and unen— very, very cheap, cheap. and uipei, on— very, very cheap, cheap. and uipei. on you— very, very cheap, cheap. and nigel, on your panel there has eieoniy— nigel, on your panel there has clearly believes— nigel, on your panel there has clearly believes it— nigel, on your panel there has clearly believes it . it simply clearly believes it. it simply is noi— clearly believes it. it simply is noi pue— clearly believes it. it simply is noi inue .— clearly believes it. it simply is not true . there's been is not true. there's been a unoie— is not true. there's been a unoie seies— is not true. there's been a whole series of- is not true. there's been a whole series of people, myself ineiuieei— whole series of people, myself included, who _ whole series of people, myself included, who have analysed the iinoneioi— included, who have analysed the financial accounts— included, who have analysed the financial accounts of every sinpie— financial accounts of every single offshore _ financial accounts of every single offshore wind farm in the uk single offshore wind farm in the up ,— single offshore wind farm in the u, , oni— single offshore wind farm in the u, , one onene— single offshore wind farm in the uk , and there is— single offshore wind farm in the uk , and there is no sign of the

uk, and there is no sign of the eosis— uk, and there is no sign of the eosis eonine— uk, and there is no sign of the costs coming down in any sipniiieoni— costs coming down in any significant way. this is why our energy— significant way. this is why our energy piiis— significant way. this is why our energy bills had— significant way. this is why our energy bills had almost doubled in ine— energy bills had almost doubled in rne zo— energy bills had almost doubled in rne 20 years— energy bills had almost doubled in the 20 years before the unroine— in the 20 years before the ukraine war— in the 20 years before the ukraine war from the time of the enemies— ukraine war from the time of the renewables obligation coming in in 2002— renewables obligation coming in in 2002 ro— renewables obligation coming in in 2002 to the— renewables obligation coming in in 2002 to the eve— renewables obligation coming in in 2002 to the eve of the ukraine— in 2002 to the eve of the ukraine war,— in 2002 to the eve of the ukraine war, energy prices , ukraine war, energy prices, eieerrieiry— ukraine war, energy prices, electricity prices had doubled . electricity prices had doubled. inor— electricity prices had doubled. inor is— electricity prices had doubled. inor is unor— electricity prices had doubled. that is what cheap, cheap renewables— that is what cheap, cheap renewables have done for us. so if we— renewables have done for us. so if we nonr— renewables have done for us. so if we nonr ro— renewables have done for us. so if we want to get— renewables have done for us. so if we want to get back to cheap energy— if we want to get back to cheap energy oni— if we want to get back to cheap energy and o— if we want to get back to cheap energy and a vibrant economy , we energy and a vibrant economy, we need— energy and a vibrant economy, we need ro— energy and a vibrant economy, we need ro pe— energy and a vibrant economy, we need ro be going— energy and a vibrant economy, we need to be going we need to be moving— need to be going we need to be moving away— need to be going we need to be moving away from _ need to be going we need to be moving away from those renenoiies— moving away from those renewables and going back to more sensible— renewables and going back to more sensible solutions. that's the more sensible solutions. that's rne oniy— more sensible solutions. that's rne oniy way— more sensible solutions. that's the only way we're _ more sensible solutions. that's the only way we're going to get our economy back. 32°c“ the only way we're going to get our economy back. wicca ' r: our economy back. well, andrew, i'm all for falling back on fossil have enormous fossil fuels. we have enormous resources on our own shores . as resources on our own shores. as however, we need an energy mix , however, we need an energy mix, don't we? we need nuclear and we need some renewables as well. britain is a world leader in green tech . the government would green tech. the government would argue that this £170 a year is going towards future energy supply . well, the green levies

supply. well, the green levies are essentially subsidies to wind farms in is the guts of it. now , in the 20 years that we now, in the 20 years that we nove— now, in the 20 years that we nove been— now, in the 20 years that we have been subsidising them, the eosrs— have been subsidising them, the eosrs ,— have been subsidising them, the eosrs , wen,— have been subsidising them, the costs , well, they— have been subsidising them, the costs , well, they went up for costs, well, they went up for ine— costs, well, they went up for rne iirsr— costs, well, they went up for the first ten— costs, well, they went up for the first ten years and they nove— the first ten years and they have come down a little bit non,— have come down a little bit since. now, the— have come down a little bit since. now, the question is, you know,— since. now, the question is, you know, inose— since. now, the question is, you know, those subsidies were put in supposeiiy— know, those subsidies were put in supposeiiy ro— know, those subsidies were put in supposedly to start the iniusrry— in supposedly to start the iniusrry up— in supposedly to start the industry up to— in supposedly to start the industry up to get it over those risi— industry up to get it over those iirsr ren— industry up to get it over those first few difficult— industry up to get it over those first few difficult years , and first few difficult years, and men— first few difficult years, and rnen iney— first few difficult years, and inen iney go — first few difficult years, and then they go away. and it would all then they go away. and it would oii pe— then they go away. and it would oii be super— then they go away. and it would all be super cheap. it hasn't noppenei— all be super cheap. it hasn't noppenei yer. — all be super cheap. it hasn't happened yet. you know, the guesrion— happened yet. you know, the guesrion is— happened yet. you know, the question is when— happened yet. you know, the question is when are the suisiiies— question is when are the subsidies going to stop ? and in subsidies going to stop? and in reoiiiy— subsidies going to stop? and in ggpy, ine— subsidies going to stop? and in reality, the truth— subsidies going to stop? and in reality, the truth is that renewables— reality, the truth is that renewables are never going to be eneop— renewables are never going to be eneop enougn— renewables are never going to be cheap enough because they make the cheap enough because they make rne resi— cheap enough because they make rne resr oi— cheap enough because they make the rest of the— cheap enough because they make the rest of the system so inefficient— the rest of the system so inefficient ._ the rest of the system so inefficient . so- the rest of the system so inefficient . so when you say we inefficient. so when you say we need — inefficient. so when you say we need some renewables as well, i nouri— need some renewables as well, i uouii soy— need some renewables as well, i uouii soy no— need some renewables as well, i wouii soy ne— need some renewables as well, i would say no, we absolutely ion-r— would say no, we absolutely ion-r need— would say no, we absolutely don't need some— would say no, we absolutely don't need some renewables as weir.— don't need some renewables as ueii. aperi— don't need some renewables as well. apart from _ don't need some renewables as well. apart from a— don't need some renewables as well. apart from a small amount of nyiro— well. apart from a small amount or nyiro inor— well. apart from a small amount of hydro that we— well. apart from a small amount of hydro that we already have. ani— of hydro that we already have. and unfortunately isn't and unfortunately there isn't scope— and unfortunately there isn't seope ion— and unfortunately there isn't scope for expanding that. if we noi—

scope for expanding that. if we nee-oi— scope for expanding that. if we nee-oi enpry— scope for expanding that. if we had of empty valleys that had lots of empty valleys that we had lots of empty valleys that rue-rime,— had lots of empty valleys that we -flood,lwould - had lots of empty valleys that we flood, would say we could flood, i would say p...— we could flood, i would say fine-go— we could flood, i would say fine-go oni- we could flood, i would say fine,-go and do- we could flood, i would say fine, go and do lots of fine, let's go and do lots of hypo,— fine, let's go and do lots of nyiro,—no- fine, let's go and do lots of nyiro,—no i fine, let's go and do lots of nyiro,—no , irl fine, let's go and do lots of. hydro,_no , it the hydro, wind, solar, no, it the eosrs— hydro, wind, solar, no, it the eosrs inor— hydro, wind, solar, no, it the costs that it— hydro, wind, solar, no, it the costs that it imposes on the unoie— costs that it imposes on the wnoie sysren— costs that it imposes on the whole system are so great you iusr— whole system are so great you iusr wouiin-r— whole system are so great you just wouldn't want to do them. so, just wouldn't want to do them. so, yes— just wouldn't want to do them. so. yes ier-s— just wouldn't want to do them. so, yes, let's let's— just wouldn't want to do them. so, yes, let's let's go back to iossii— so, yes, let's let's go back to fossil fuels— so, yes, let's let's go back to fossil fuels because they are reiioiie— fossil fuels because they are reliable and— fossil fuels because they are reliable and we— fossil fuels because they are reliable and we need to be iooking— reliable and we need to be iooking or— reliable and we need to be looking at shale gas again. and we need— looking at shale gas again. and we need ro— looking at shale gas again. and we need ro pe— looking at shale gas again. and we need to be reinvigorating our nueeori— we need to be reinvigorating our nueeori program.— we need to be reinvigorating our nuclear program. the nuclear programme— nuclear program. the nuclear progronne is— nuclear program. the nuclear programme is grinding back into oerion— programme is grinding back into oerion pur— programme is grinding back into oerion our ir— programme is grinding back into action, but it needs to be done wiri— action, but it needs to be done nirn o— action, but it needs to be done nirn o roi— action, but it needs to be done with a lot more— action, but it needs to be done with a lot more detail nomination.- with a lot more detail nomination. we need to be iooking— nomination. we need to be iooking or— nomination. we need to be looking at small modular nuclear reactors. these— looking at small modular nuclear reactors. these are— looking at small modular nuclear reactors. these are these possipiy— reactors. these are these possibly will— reactors. these are these possibly will be much, much eneoper— possibly will be much, much eneoper g...— possibly will be much, much cheaper than the big reactors inor— cheaper than the big reactors inor u-ree— cheaper than the big reactors that we're doing. _ cheaper than the big reactors that we're doing. and we need to but that we're doing. and we need to our ne— that we're doing. and we need to our we oiso— that we're doing. and we need to but we also need— that we're doing. and we need to but we also need to— that we're doing. and we need to but we also need to hold our nerve— but we also need to hold our nene on— but we also need to hold our nene on ine— but we also need to hold our nerve on the big— but we also need to hold our nerve on the big reactors. yes. ine— nerve on the big reactors. yes. ine ones— nerve on the big reactors. yes. ine u-ree— nerve on the big reactors. yes. the ones we're doing are epensive— the ones we're doing are expensive. but- the ones we're doing are expensive. but if we do 2 or 3 of men,— expensive. but if we do 2 or 3 of them, number— expensive. but if we do 2 or 3 of them, number two will be eneoper— of them, number two will be eneoper oni— of them, number two will be cheaper and number three will be eneopen— cheaper and number three will be eneoper. sriii— cheaper and number three will be cheaper. still and— cheaper and number three will be cheaper. still and so on. that's vvnor— cheaper. still and so on. that's vnor rney— cheaper. still and so on. that's vnor iney io— cheaper. still and so on. that's what they do in— cheaper. still and so on. that's what they do in countries like koren — what they do in countries like koea -veep— what they do in countries like korea. keep building them korea. they keep building them again— korea. they keep building them again ani— korea. they keep building them again and again— korea. they keep building them again and again again , and again and again and again, and men— again and again and again, and inen-eneaper.- again and again and again, and then-cheaper. so-

again and again and again, and then cheaper. so there then they get cheaper. so there is-iorvvari — then they get cheaper. so there is-forward that- then they get cheaper. so there is forward that will be is a way forward that will be nor— is a way forward that will be nor eo— is a way forward that will be not zero carbon,— is a way forward that will be not zero carbon, it will be rover— not zero carbon, it will be lower carbon. _ not zero carbon, it will be lower carbon. but the government isn-r— lower carbon. but the government isn't interested. _ lower carbon. but the government isn't interested. they are in ine— isn't interested. they are in rne grip— isn't interested. they are in rne grip oi— isn't interested. they are in the grip of the— isn't interested. they are in the grip of the green lobby. iney-re— the grip of the green lobby. they're there _ the grip of the green lobby. they're there are too many conservative _ they're there are too many conservative mps who are who nave— conservative mps who are who nave a— conservative mps who are who have a religious— conservative mps who are who have a religious commitment to the have a religious commitment to rne green— have a religious commitment to the green agenda— have a religious commitment to the green agenda and they're not going— the green agenda and they're not going ro— the green agenda and they're not going ro rer— the green agenda and they're not going o no go— the green agenda and they're not going o no go no— the green agenda and they're not going to let go no matter what the going to let go no matter what rne pain— going to let go no matter what rne pain ro— going to let go no matter what the pain to the— going to let go no matter what the pain to the consumer. and anar— the pain to the consumer. and rnar anar— the pain to the consumer. and ma ma is— the pain to the consumer. and that that is the— the pain to the consumer. and that that is the problem that the conservative _ that that is the problem that the conservative party faces . the conservative party faces. okay.— the conservative party faces. okay. andrew.— the conservative party faces. okay, andrew, great- the conservative party faces. okay, andrew, great to - the conservative party faces. okay, andrew, great to have you on the show again. we'll catch up soon. andrew montfort is the director of net zero. watch your reaction. market gb news .com . reaction. market gb news .com. speaking of gb news gb news star, our brand new presenter, conservative mp lee anderson, has revealed on his new show that he believes the so—called culture wars will decide the outcome of the next general election. is he right or are concerns about political correctness and woke ideology irrelevant as people struggle to pay irrelevant as people struggle to pay their bills? to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome professor matthew goodwin ,

professor matthew goodwin, author of the best selling book value , voice and virtue the new value, voice and virtue the new british politics acas. matthew with people struggling with the cost of living crisis , why do cost of living crisis, why do the culture wars matter ? well the culture wars matter? well they matter for lots of reasons. mark. i think if you've been vvarening— mark. i think if you've been watching the— mark. i think if you've been watching the newspapers this ween— watching the newspapers this week, you — watching the newspapers this week, you will— watching the newspapers this week, you will have seen the big aerate— week, you will have seen the big ieiare anar— week, you will have seen the big debate that we've— week, you will have seen the big debate that we've had over what reaening— debate that we've had over what we're teaching children in nrirain-s— we're teaching children in britain's schools about sex and gender.— britain's schools about sex and gender. vie— britain's schools about sex and gender. we now— britain's schools about sex and gender. we now have children , gender. we now have children, for evanpie— gender. we now have children, for example, identifying as cats ani— for example, identifying as cats and orien— for example, identifying as cats and other animals— for example, identifying as cats and other animals and schools, essenriaiiy— and other animals and schools, essentially embracing gender identity— essentially embracing gender identity theory. _ essentially embracing gender identity theory. mums and dads up ani— identity theory. mums and dads up and town— identity theory. mums and dads up and down the— identity theory. mums and dads up and down the country do care about— up and down the country do care about rnis— up and down the country do care about this issue. _ up and down the country do care about this issue. it's not as important— about this issue. it's not as important ro— about this issue. it's not as important to them as things like the important to them as things like rne eosr— important to them as things like rne cost or— important to them as things like the cost of living— important to them as things like the cost of living crisis or immigration— the cost of living crisis or immigration ,_ the cost of living crisis or immigration , but it is immigration, but it is definitely— immigration, but it is definitely on the agenda. and i vvouii— definitely on the agenda. and i vouii iusr— definitely on the agenda. and i vouia iusi say,— definitely on the agenda. and i would just say, mark, if you took— would just say, mark, if you took ar— would just say, mark, if you look at american politics at the rnrnenor— look at american politics at the rnrnenor gt— look at american politics at the moment, all of— look at american politics at the moment, all of those issues are reaiiy— moment, all of those issues are reaiiy in— moment, all of those issues are reaiiy in me— moment, all of those issues are really in the top—

moment, all of those issues are really in the top three. and rnar-s— really in the top three. and that's because— really in the top three. and that's because politicians have reaiiy— that's because politicians have reaiiy teen— that's because politicians have really been willing to talk about— really been willing to talk about them— really been willing to talk about them to— really been willing to talk about them to actually have a conversation _ about them to actually have a conversation with— about them to actually have a conversation with the country about— conversation with the country about rnen. — conversation with the country about them. and— conversation with the country about them. and i think probably unar— about them. and i think probably vnar ree— about them. and i think probably vnar iee is— about them. and i think probably what lee is saying— about them. and i think probably what lee is saying is, look, if rne— what lee is saying is, look, if the conservatives— what lee is saying is, look, if the conservatives were were erieve— the conservatives were were eieverlrnis— the conservatives were were clever this point, they would clever at this point, they would be clever at this point, they would ire-ro— clever at this point, they would ie-ro-ro— clever at this point, they would be -to .to voters- be trying to talk to voters concerns about- be trying to talk to voters concerns about very be trying to talk to voters- concerns about-very issues concerns about those very issues inieei. — concerns about those very issues inieei. so— concerns about those very issues inieei. so i— concerns about those very issues indeed. so i suppose- concerns about those very issues indeed. so i suppose you're characterising it. the woke issue, the culture wars as the dark horse issue issue of next year's campaign . do you think year's campaign. do you think rishi sunak is the man to embrace the anti woke message ? embrace the anti woke message? well, the first thing, mark, i nouri— well, the first thing, mark, i vouii say— well, the first thing, mark, i vouii say is— well, the first thing, mark, i would say is i— well, the first thing, mark, i would say is i personally don't tite— would say is i personally don't iite rne— would say is i personally don't like the term— would say is i personally don't like the term culture wars for me— like the term culture wars for rne — like the term culture wars for the reason that— like the term culture wars for the reason that we're talking about— the reason that we're talking about me— the reason that we're talking about the rights— the reason that we're talking about the rights of women. we're raining— about the rights of women. we're raving about— about the rights of women. we're talking about the _ about the rights of women. we're talking about the rights of eiiiiren— talking about the rights of children. we're— talking about the rights of children. we're talking about our children. we're talking about nisrory— children. we're talking about nisrory .— children. we're talking about our history . we're talking about our history. we're talking about our history. we're talking about iienriry— our history. we're talking about our identity and— our history. we're talking about our identity and the language of suture — our identity and the language of suture vvars— our identity and the language of culture. wars implies , guys, culture. wars implies, guys, rnar— culture. wars implies, guys, rnar-is— culture. wars implies, guys, that is somehow culture. wars implies, guys,- that-is somehow bad, that this stuff is somehow bad, rnar— that this stuff is somehow bad, rnar ve— that this stuff is somehow bad, that we shouldn't— that this stuff is somehow bad, that we shouldn't be talking about— that we shouldn't be talking about g.— that we shouldn't be talking about it. and— that we shouldn't be talking about it. and i— that we shouldn't be talking about it. and i think that, you know,— about it. and i think that, you know, ro — about it. and i think that, you know, even to use— about it. and i think that, you know, even to use that phrase is to know, even to use that phrase is ro-eniraee— know, even to use that phrase is to-embrace the- know, even to use that phrase is to embrace the language, to kind of embrace the language, if to kind of embrace the language, ii—rne— to kind of embrace the language, ii—rne-oi- to kind of embrace the language, ii—rne-oi wokel if you like, of the kind of woke progressive.— if you like, of the kind of woke progressive. so— if you like, of the kind of woke progressive. so i— if you like, of the kind of woke progressive. so i don't like using—

progressive. so i don't like using rnar— progressive. so i don't like using that term- progressive. so i don't like using that term rishi sunak has snovn— using that term rishi sunak has shown himself— using that term rishi sunak has shown himself willing to intervene— shown himself willing to intervene on— shown himself willing to intervene on some of these . in— intervene on some of these issues . in scotland, for issues. in scotland, for evanpie— issues. in scotland, for example, he - issues. in scotland, for example, he intervened against the example, he intervened against rne gender— example, he intervened against the gender recognition reform iii.— the gender recognition reform piii. ue-s— the gender recognition reform piii. ue-s you— the gender recognition reform bill. he's, you know, been pusning— bill. he's, you know, been pusning ion— bill. he's, you know, been pusning for a— bill. he's, you know, been pushing for a review of what's nappening— pushing for a review of what's nappening in— pushing for a review of what's happening in schools. but to be nonesr— happening in schools. but to be nonesr vvirn— happening in schools. but to be honest with you,— happening in schools. but to be honest with you, mark, i'm siignriy— honest with you, mark, i'm slightly sceptical some slightly sceptical of some of his slightly sceptical of some of. nis—rninv his appointments. i don't think eiiiian— his appointments. i don't think gillian keegan_ his appointments. i don't think gillian keegan has a gillian keegan has been a pariieuiariy— gillian keegan has been a particularly education particularly good education secretary— particularly good education seererary so— particularly good education secretary so far. _ particularly good education secretary so far. she's eeriainiy— secretary so far. she's certainly not- secretary so far. she's certainly not been in touch with the certainly not been in touch with rne vies— certainly not been in touch with rne oi— certainly not been in touch with the views of many— certainly not been in touch with the views of many conservative votes— the views of many conservative vores aiour— the views of many conservative voters about these _ the views of many conservative voters about these issues and i rnint— voters about these issues and i rnint-you— voters about these issues and i think-you really- voters about these issues and i think you really want think if you if you really want to think if you if you really want ro-a— think if you if you really want ro-a-on— think if you if you really wanti ro-a-on-peopie to get a handle on why people are concerned— to get a handle on why people are concerned ,_ to get a handle on why people are concerned , what they feel is are concerned, what they feel is anar— are concerned, what they feel is rnar rneir— are concerned, what they feel is that their children _ are concerned, what they feel is that their children and fellow citizens— that their children and fellow citizens are— that their children and fellow citizens are being exposed to raiieai— citizens are being exposed to radical ideologies which often nave— radical ideologies which often nave no— radical ideologies which often have no basis— radical ideologies which often have no basis in— radical ideologies which often have no basis in science. it's ainosr— have no basis in science. it's ainosr as— have no basis in science. it's ainosr as i— have no basis in science. it's almost as if the— have no basis in science. it's almost as if the adults have terr— almost as if the adults have ieir rne— almost as if the adults have left the room.— almost as if the adults have left the room. and i think there are left the room. and i think there tors— left the room. and i think there iors oi— left the room. and i think there are lots of people— left the room. and i think there are lots of people who are rooting— are lots of people who are iooting ar— are lots of people who are looking at this— are lots of people who are looking at this revolution sweeping— looking at this revolution sweeping through looking at this revolution- sweeping through-because sweeping through britain because rnar-s— sweeping through britain because mars-is.— sweeping through britain because rnar-s-is. irat— sweeping through britain because that's-is. mark it's- sweeping through britain because that's is. mark it's a that's what it is. mark it's a revoiurion— that's what it is. mark it's a revoiurion .— that's what it is. mark it's a revolution . and— that's what it is. mark it's a revolution . and think they revolution. and i think they rney— revolution. and i think they rney-asting— revolution. and i think they they asking themselves , is they are asking themselves, is uno— they are asking themselves, is vvno-eonrroi— they are asking themselves, is who-control of- they are asking themselves, is who control of this? who who's in control of this? wnere— who who's in control of this? wnere are— who who's in control of this? where are these— who who's in control of this? where are these ideas coming ironi— where are these ideas coming ironi nov— where are these ideas coming ironi row are— where are these ideas coming from? how are we— where are these ideas coming from? how are we going to hold rnese— from? how are we going to hold rnese snaiovy— from? how are we going to hold these shadowy organisations to

account— these shadowy organisations to account rnar— these shadowy organisations to account that are— these shadowy organisations to account that are coming in and reaening— account that are coming in and reaening our— account that are coming in and teaching our kids— account that are coming in and teaching our kids all of these rnings— teaching our kids all of these rnings i— teaching our kids all of these inings e uovv— teaching our kids all of these things ? now, the things? now, if the conservatives on conservatives jump on those issues-about- conservatives jump on those issues about them, conservatives jump on those- issues-about them, they issues and talk about them, they viii— issues and talk about them, they viii tini— issues and talk about them, they will find lots— issues and talk about them, they will find lots of— issues and talk about them, they will find lots of receptive votes— will find lots of receptive voters-want- will find lots of receptive voters-want to - will find lots of receptive voters want to have a voters who want to have a conversation _ voters who want to have a conversation about them. if they insreai— conversation about them. if they instead-anem— conversation about them. if they instead-them and- conversation about them. if they instead them and they instead ignore them and they sound— instead ignore them and they sound a— instead ignore them and they sound a iot— instead ignore them and they sound a lot like— instead ignore them and they sound a lot like the labour party— sound a lot like the labour tarry-issues- sound a lot like the labour- party-issues,-know, party on those issues, you know, rney-re— party on those issues, you know, rney-re-ro — party on those issues, you know, rney-re-ro ger- party on those issues, you know, they're-to get much. they're not going to get much penetr— they're not going to get much benefit ar— they're not going to get much benefit at all— they're not going to get much benefit at all from them at all. so benefit at all from them at all. so-viev— benefit at all from them at all. so .view would _ benefit at all from them at all. so view would look at so my view would be, look at america— so my view would be, look at america, look— so my view would be, look at america, look at— so my view would be, look at america, look at what's happened tiere— america, look at what's happened tiers—nov— america, look at what's happened there,_how these- there, and look at how these nave— there, and look at how these issues have gone— there, and look at how these issues have gone mainstream in need. — issues have gone mainstream in need. so— issues have gone mainstream in need. so anu— issues have gone mainstream in need. so and you— issues have gone mainstream in deed. a�*i: deed. so and you have to ask who is pushing this radical ideology? well it's the media corporates and political elite who feature very much as key characters in your book, values voice and virtue, the new british politics , which is british politics, which is really the most talked about political book of the year so far. it's a cracking read, but you're great on twitter as well because you can be found at goodwin , mj and matthew , you you goodwin, mj and matthew, you you broke the internet this week by pointing out that now that brexit has happened, you live in a proper democracy. but this triggered a few people. how so ?

triggered a few people. how so? well, it turns out that many of the people who absolutely hate brexit and love the european union don't really know how the european union works. the eu is not a genuine— european union works. the eu is not a genuine democracy.- c. " " is" the eu is not a genuine democracy. mark. genuine— not a genuine democracy. mark. genuine democracies do three rings.— genuine democracies do three inings. iney— genuine democracies do three inings. iney give— genuine democracies do three things. they give people free ani— things. they give people free and rain— things. they give people free and fair elections . they give and fair elections. they give rnen — and fair elections. they give them representation in a in a pariianent— them representation in a in a pgppgmgm, in— them representation in a in a parliament, in a— them representation in a in a parliament, in a legislature, ani— parliament, in a legislature, and crucially,— parliament, in a legislature, and crucially, they allow them to influence _ and crucially, they allow them to influence who— and crucially, they allow them to influence who controls the eveeuiver— to influence who controls the executive office. _ to influence who controls the executive office. the eu only goes— executive office. the eu only does too— executive office. the eu only does two or— executive office. the eu only does two of those things. it's ainosr— does two of those things. it's almost impossible for citizens ine— almost impossible for citizens across the eu— almost impossible for citizens across the eu to— almost impossible for citizens across the eu to influence the eveeuiver— across the eu to influence the executive and _ across the eu to influence the executive and many of the decisions— executive and many of the decisions coming out of it. so i nereiy— decisions coming out of it. so i nereiy poinrei— decisions coming out of it. so i merely pointed out— decisions coming out of it. so i merely pointed out that in the airernarn— merely pointed out that in the aftermath of— merely pointed out that in the aftermath of brexit, we do now rive— aftermath of brexit, we do now iive in— aftermath of brexit, we do now iive in a— aftermath of brexit, we do now live in a genuine— aftermath of brexit, we do now live in a genuine ,_ aftermath of brexit, we do now live in a genuine , healthy, live in a genuine, healthy, self—governing— live in a genuine, healthy, self—governing democracy . kwasi self—governing democracy. kwasi you nignr— self—governing democracy. kwasi you nignr nor— self—governing democracy. kwasi you might not like— self—governing democracy. kwasi you might not like who's running anar— you might not like who's running that democracy— you might not like who's running that democracy at— you might not like who's running that democracy at the moment. vou— that democracy at the moment. vou nignr— that democracy at the moment. vou nignr-iite— that democracy at the moment. you might like rishi sunak, you might not like rishi sunak, you-iive— you might not like rishi sunak, you-iive rne- you might not like the conservative. - you might not like the conservative. might not conservative. you might not likei some—democracy conservative. you might not likei som the _ democracy conservative. you might not like somthe house democracy conservative. you might not like somthe house of democracy conservative. you might not like somthe house of lords emocracy conservative. you might not like somthe house of lords .mocracy conservative. you might not like somthe house of lords . butracy conservative. you might not like somthe house of lords. but you like the house of lords. but you can-ro— like the house of lords. but you onto enange— like the house of lords. but you can -to change all- like the house of lords. but you can to change all of those can vote to change all of those rings.— can vote to change all of those rnings. vou— can vote to change all of those inings. vou san— can vote to change all of those things. you can vote for a pariv- _ things. you can vote for a party vou— things. you can vote for a party you san— things. you can vote for a party. you can vote for a manifesto— party. you can vote for a manifesto .— party. you can vote for a manifesto . citizens greece or manifesto. citizens in greece or nay— manifesto. citizens in greece or iraiy or— manifesto. citizens in greece or nay or spain— manifesto. citizens in greece or italy or spain often cannot iniiuenee— italy or spain often cannot influence the _

italy or spain often cannot influence the decisions that are arresting— influence the decisions that are affecting their— influence the decisions that are affecting their daily lives on big,— affecting their daily lives on big sweeping— affecting their daily lives on big, sweeping issues. and that is uirinareiy— big, sweeping issues. and that is ultimately ,_ big, sweeping issues. and that is ultimately , of— big, sweeping issues. and that is ultimately , of course, one of is ultimately, of course, one of ine— is ultimately, of course, one of rne pig— is ultimately, of course, one of the big reasons— is ultimately, of course, one of the big reasons why we left. i'm just— the big reasons why we left. i'm iusi snooker— the big reasons why we left. i'm just shocked that— the big reasons why we left. i'm just shocked that seven years on iron— just shocked that seven years on from-referendum _ just shocked that seven years on from-referendum ,- just shocked that seven years on from referendum , mark, i from the referendum, mark, i nave— from the referendum, mark, i navelevpiain— from the referendum, mark, i have explain very basic have to explain these very basic points— have to explain these very basic poinrs ro— have to explain these very basic points to apparently very intelligent,— points to apparently very intelligent, enlightened , intelligent, enlightened, iienari— intelligent, enlightened, diehard remainers who apparently rove— diehard remainers who apparently iove rne— diehard remainers who apparently love the european— diehard remainers who apparently love the european union and everyrning— love the european union and everything about it, but don't ro— everything about it, but don't seem to understand how it aeruaiiy— seem to understand how it actually works. _ seem to understand how it actually works. yes, you get a lot actually works. yes, you get a rot or— actually works. yes, you get a lot of pushback_ actually works. yes, you get a lot of pushback on on online and you ger— lot of pushback on on online and you get a— lot of pushback on on online and you get a tor— lot of pushback on on online and you get a rot or— lot of pushback on on online and you get a lot of abuse. 'i: you get a lot of abuse. and rnar-s— you get a lot of abuse. and that's because— you get a lot of abuse. and that's because people don't like the truth at goodwin, mj is where find matt goodwin where you'll find matt goodwin onune where you'll find matt goodwin online his is out now. online and his book is out now. so it's got britain talking values, voice and virtue, the new british politics. thanks, matthew. soon. i'll be matthew. see you soon. i'll be deaung matthew. see you soon. i'll be dealing gillian keegan, the dealing with gillian keegan, the woke education secretary, at 10:00. she's drafting legislation which will allow children to change their gender at school. welcome to hell . at school. welcome to hell. that's at 10:00 in my take. at ten, you won't want to miss it, but coming up next with the punstis but coming up next with the pundits is the nhs losing the war against obesity? should children be banned from weddings

? and is there anything wrong with sunbathing naked in your back garden ? i'll be revealing back garden? i'll be revealing the results of our techs poll as well. on brexit. we asked you earlier today in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll says seven years on from the vote and with the eurozone in recession, have remainers been proved wrong about brexit? i'll bnng proved wrong about brexit? i'll bring you the results of that

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enough excess calories to put on an extra two and a half stone every year. the nhs also seems to have admitted defeat by starting to jab people with a weight loss injection instead of getting to the root of the problem. so is our nhs losing the war on obesity and on theatre? yes , i think it's theatre? yes, i think it's a broader— theatre? yes, i think it's a broader issue— theatre? yes, i think it's a broader issue than- �* yes, i think it's a broader issue than just a neiieai— broader issue than just a medical one.— broader issue than just a medical one. - broader issue than just a medical one. broader issue than just a- medical one. i think we have an attitude to food in this country generally that causes problems, but the fundamental point that the nhs is giving bad advice i think is true in my own personal experience . s i was i tested experience. s i was i tested borderline for a gestation diabetes, so i had to go on a course of what to eat and the advice was terrible. it was to eat lots and lots of ultra processed foods, carbohydrates, bread , pasta, that kind of bread, pasta, that kind of thing. grains , those were thing. grains, those were sonevvnar— g grains, those were somewhat limited , but all the somewhat limited, but all the sugar— somewhat limited, but all the sugar peg,— somewhat limited, but all the sugar free. very— somewhat limited, but all the sugar free, very processed food nigniy— sugar free, very processed food was highly recommended . 'i:

was highly recommended. and i was highly recommended. and i rotu— was highly recommended. and i roiu anar— was highly recommended. and i was told that no _ was highly recommended. and i was told that no one— was highly recommended. and i was told that no one over the age of two should have whole milk , which is actually proved milk, which is actually proved too low for weight. if you have full fat milk rather than semi—skimmed , the advice is out semi—skimmed, the advice is out of date and the nhs has got to catch up. well, yes. and here's rne— catch up. well, yes. and here's rne issue— catch up. well, yes. and here's the issue and— catch up. well, yes. and here's the issue and even— cfc e. well, yes. and here's the issue and even labour have ninrei— the issue and even labour have ninrei ar— the issue and even labour have hinted at this,— the issue and even labour have hinted at this, nigel, haven't mey,— hinted at this, nigel, haven't rney inat— hinted at this, nigel, haven't they, that the— hinted at this, nigel, haven't they, that the nhs can no longer be me— they, that the nhs can no longer be rne saei— they, that the nhs can no longer be the sacred cow,— they, that the nhs can no longer be the sacred cow, particularly unen— be the sacred cow, particularly vvnen ir— be the sacred cow, particularly when it comes— be the sacred cow, particularly when it comes to— be the sacred cow, particularly when it comes to funding that even—are starting. when it comes to funding that even are starting to even the public are starting to mini— even the public are starting to rnint rnar— even the public are starting to think that money's not the issue iaiour— think that money's not the issue now. - about-fact - think that money's not the issue now. about fact that now. it's about the fact that me— now. it's about the fact that rne service— now. it's about the fact that the service become the service has become the uarionai— the service has become the national service, national sickness service, pariieuiar— national sickness service, particular in— national sickness service, particular in relation to iiiesryie — particular in relation to lifestyle conditions lifestyle related conditions iive— lifestyle related conditions like obesity. _ lifestyle related conditions like obesity, v.35- lifestyle related conditions like obesity. / i: lifestyle related conditions like obesity. “43?" ' i: like obesity. yeah. and so one of the things that labour is talking prevention talking about is prevention rather rather rather than very good, rather than treat it than having to treat it and certainly of things like certainly sort of things like obesity , cancer, mental health, obesity, cancer, mental health, addiction, these are all things that the nhs needs to step up to, step up to the plate for obesity is costing the nhs 6 billion. if you caught people earlier, you would actually save money and they're doing that now on the on the screening, the new screening system for people who

smoke to try and catch cancers earlier before they become more expensive . well, the same thing expensive. well, the same thing should happen with obesity . should happen with obesity. absolutely. neil has christine stopped— absolutely. neil has christine sroppea you— absolutely. neil has christine stopped you having cake? oh, i'm eonpiereiy— stopped you having cake? oh, i'm completely under— stopped you having cake? oh, i'm completely under the thumb in every— completely under the thumb in every possipie— completely under the thumb in every possible respect. c2” every possible respect. of course, we certainly- every possible respect. of course, we certainly don't have cake or anything of that kind . cake or anything of that kind. no, very healthy and no, we need very healthy and frugal lifestyle. as you can see from trim figure. definitely. from my trim figure. definitely. but what amazes me, whenever i go hospital, mercifully go into hospital, mercifully isn't very often is how many overweight people you see the overweight people you see on the staff . and so if the nhs was staff. and so if the nhs was really serious about the obesity problem, they would issue rules and guidelines for their own staff . if it's not rocket staff. if it's not rocket science as to eat in a healthy way, we eat lots of fresh food , way, we eat lots of fresh food, which we grow a lot ourselves in the garden at this time of year and you don't have to eat lots of pastry and biscuits and so on and so forth or crisps and other highly processed nibbles. so it's just a case of eating

moderately and letting drink do the rest. well, definitely. listen i'm no expert, let me tell you. but i cut the carbs. i reai— tell you. but i cut the carbs. i read ine— tell you. but i cut the carbs. i read the what— tell you. but i cut the carbs. i read the what was— tell you. but i cut the carbs. i read the what was it?- but i cut the carbs. i read the what was it? the fast soo— read the what was it? the fast soo toot— read the what was it? the fast soo boot by— read the what was it? the fast 800 book by michael mosley . and 800 book by michael mosley. and that 800 book by michael mosley. and rnar invoives— 800 book by michael mosley. and that involves getting your carbohydrates— that involves getting your carbohydrates down as recommended by dr. david unwin, uns— recommended by dr. david unwin, was or.— recommended by dr. david unwin, was or. ir— recommended by dr. david unwin, nhs gp. it worked— recommended by dr. david unwin, nhs gp. it worked for me. but toot,— nhs gp. it worked for me. but took, its— nhs gp. it worked for me. but took, its ari— nhs gp. it worked for me. but look, it's all about opinions , look, it's all about opinions, isn-r— look, it's all about opinions, isn-r pp— look, it's all about opinions, isn-r pp ii— look, it's all about opinions, isn't it? if you're— look, it's all about opinions, isn't it? if you're struggling vvirn— isn't it? if you're struggling win your— isn't it? if you're struggling with your weight, do reach out to with your weight, do reach out ro-sie — with your weight, do reach out ro-sie uovv— with your weight, do reach out to gp. now weddings are to your gp. now weddings are a time— to your gp. now weddings are a time vvnere— to your gp. now weddings are a time where two— to your gp. now weddings are a time where two families usually rogerner— time where two families usually come together celebrate love. come together to celebrate love. however, a particular bride tiered— however, a particular bride tietei our— however, a particular bride kicked out her— however, a particular bride kicked out her husband's entire ianiiy— kicked out her husband's entire ianiiy tor— kicked out her husband's entire family for violating her rules. rer— family for violating her rules. uer ruies— family for violating her rules. her rules were _ family for violating her rules. her rules were not to wear white ani— her rules were not to wear white and keep— her rules were not to wear white and keep me— her rules were not to wear white and keep the wedding child free and keep the wedding child free and rney— and keep the wedding child free and iney irone— and keep the wedding child free and they broke both of them. the ianiiy— and they broke both of them. the raniiy argued— and they broke both of them. the family argued having kids at a vending— family argued having kids at a wedding is— family argued having kids at a wedding is a— family argued having kids at a wedding is a tradition. so what do wedding is a tradition. so what to we— wedding is a tradition. so what to we rninvi— wedding is a tradition. so what do we think? should kids be banned— do we think? should kids be banned from _ do we think? should kids be banned from weddings and uncata? vveii— banned from weddings and uncata? vveii you-ve— banned from weddings and uncata? vveii you-ve gor— banned from weddings and uncata? vveii youve got a— banned from weddings and uncata? well you've got a few. i've got ive— well you've got a few. i've got i-ve gor— well you've got a few. i've got ive got a— well you've got a few. i've got i-ve got a ievv— well you've got a few. i've got i've got a few kids, but i think fundamentally,— i've got a few kids, but i think fundamentally, it's your wedding . its— fundamentally, it's your wedding . its your— fundamentally, it's your wedding . its your guest— fundamentally, it's your wedding . it's your guest list. - fundamentally, it's your wedding . it's your guest list. invite who you want, don't invite who you don't want. in my personal view, children make weddings. seeing little bridesmaids , kids

seeing little bridesmaids, kids running around with flowers in their hair must be one of the most heartwarming sights possible . while dancing with possible. while dancing with granny on the dance floor. it's beautiful as far as i'm concerned, but the bride and groom tend to pay for their weddings. they're very expensive things. it's got to be up to them. well, i think there this particular bride is a misery guts, because as you say, kids make the atmosphere and also in many cases not but in many many cases not all, but in many cases wedding about cases the wedding is about creating children , isn't creating more children, isn't it? and also, it's a it? indeed and also, it's a celebration remembers his wedding night, a celebration of life and the future mother and children are the future, as the terrible song goes . but you're terrible song goes. but you're about to break into song there. i would i would not scare the listeners and viewers that badly . we know tonight's mark dolan ionignr— . we know tonight's mark dolan ionignr is— . we know tonight's mark dolan ionignr is a— . we know tonight's mark dolan tonight is a music— we know tonight's mark dolan tonight is a music free zone. no going— tonight is a music free zone. no going ro— tonight is a music free zone. no one's going to break out into song. — one's going to break out into song. rer— one's going to break out into song. ier ne— one's going to break out into song. let me tell— one's going to break out into song. let me tell you now on the off eaneen— song. let me tell you now on the off chance that— song. let me tell you now on the off chance that it's— song. let me tell you now on the off chance that it's not raining in me— off chance that it's not raining in rne un— off chance that it's not raining in the uk, people— off chance that it's not raining in the uk, people grab their svvinsuirs— in the uk, people grab their swimsuits-head- in the uk, people grab their swimsuits head straight out swimsuits and head straight out to suniarne.— swimsuits and head straight out to sunbathe. but— swimsuits and head straight out to sunbathe. but some cases, to sunbathe. but in some cases, peopie—svvinningl

people leave their swimming suits— people leave their swimming suits behind.— people leave their swimming suits behind. one woman said suits behind. one woman has said oniine— suits behind. one woman has said oniine-sne— suits behind. one woman has said online-she prefers— suits behind. one woman has said online she prefers to online that she prefers to suniarne— online that she prefers to sunbathe-on- online that she prefers to sunbathe on her sunbathe naked on her trampoline,— sunbathe naked on her trampoline, enjoying the rays, kissing— trampoline, enjoying the rays, kissing ner— trampoline, enjoying the rays, kissing her skin— trampoline, enjoying the rays, kissing her skin .— trampoline, enjoying the rays, kissing her skin . this could kissing her skin. this could give— kissing her skin. this could give iove— kissing her skin. this could give iove any— kissing her skin. this could give love thy neighbour a whole meaning— give love thy neighbour a whole new meaning if— give love thy neighbour a whole new meaning if they see them in your— new meaning if they see them in your garden. — new meaning if they see them in your garden. so— new meaning if they see them in your garden. so is— new meaning if they see them in your garden. so is there anyrning— your garden. so is there anything wrong with sunbathing naked— anything wrong with sunbathing natei in— anything wrong with sunbathing naked in your— anything wrong with sunbathing naked in your backyard? nigel yesi_ naked in your backyard? nigel yes there— naked in your backyard? nigel yes there is— naked in your backyard? nigel yes there is .— naked in your backyard? nigel yes, there is . i— naked in your backyard? nigel yes, there is . i mean,- naked in your backyard? nigel yes, there is . i mean, i- naked in your backyard? nigel “cit? “iii; " rzizr" c yes, there is. i mean, i don't personally mind if the neighbours want to see my todger, but , neighbours want to see my todger, but, but i do respect the fact that they probably don't. so on the basis of that, i think that better to actually cover up for the benefit of other people . yeah. what do you other people. yeah. what do you vnar— other people. yeah. what do you vnar io— other people. yeah. what do you vnar to you— other people. yeah. what do you what do you think. _ other people. yeah. what do you what do you think. well- yeah. what do you what do you think. voice. or; e what do you think. well neil, i think where nudity is concerned, i think less is more. don't you 7 i think less is more. don't you ? or is the other way round? ? or is it the other way round? but get the excuses in now . i but get the excuses in now. i think with annunciators think i'm with annunciators brother jacob, because think i'm with annunciators brotherjacob, because i've got a three piece bathe ing costume that made of tweed. so there's no danger of any of my naughty bits being seen by anybody else. although it raises a question about, you know, an englishman's home is his castle. that garden

is your— home is his castle. that garden is your rerrirory. — home is his castle. that garden is your territory. you _ " f that garden is your territory. you should be apie— is your territory. you should be ante-via— is your territory. you should be ante-unar you- is your territory. you should be able what you like in it, able to do what you like in it, our— able to do what you like in it, our-ii— able to do what you like in it, our-ii you— able to do what you like in it, our-ii you san— able to do what you like in it, but-if you can see- able to do what you like in it, but if you can see over the but not if you can see over the top— but not if you can see over the top or— but not if you can see over the top or your— but not if you can see over the top of your fence. _ but not if you can see over the top of your fence. " top of your fence. i mean that. iisren— top of your fence. i mean that. iisren san— top of your fence. i mean that. iisren i— top of your fence. i mean that. listen, can i just— top of your fence. i mean that. listen, can i just say— listen, can i just say something?- listen, can i just say- something? -you're listen, can i just say- something?-you're one something? right? you're one of the something? right? you're one of rne—poiirieai- the country's best political iournaiisrs. — journalists. why do you hide your—a- journalists. why do you hide your—a bushel?i journalists. why do you hide- your_a bushel? okay your light under a bushel? okay neeause— your light under a bushel? okay because ithink— your light under a bushel? okay because ithink-a- because i think there's a rnere-s— because i think there's a rnere-s an— because i think there's a there's an adonis underneath rnar— there's an adonis underneath rnar-you-re- there's an adonis underneath that you're wearing that suit that you're wearing ronignr. — that suit that you're wearing tonight. yeah,— that suit that you're wearing tonight. / that suit that you're wearing tonight. “is?" : " c tonight. yeah, well, i wouldn't say i'm. and think you're say i'm. and i think you're depriving— say i'm. and i think you're depriving-oi- and i think you're depriving of housewives depriving a lot of housewives of afternoon— depriving a lot of housewives of afternoon _ i'm - depriving a lot of housewives of afternoon _ i'm not| afternoon pleasure, but i'm not asnanei— afternoon pleasure, but i'm not asnanei oi— afternoon pleasure, but i'm not ashamed of what— afternoon pleasure, but i'm not ashamed of what i've got, but i sit— ashamed of what i've got, but i sriii-rnint— ashamed of what i've got, but i still-think that— ashamed of what i've got, but i still think that other still don't think that other peopie— people want to see it. annunciator.- people want to see it. annunciator. the people want to see it.- annunciator.-the wider annunciator. here's the wider point.— annunciator. here's the wider point-were- annunciator. here's the wideri point.-we're-that point. us brits, we're not that eoniorraiie— point. us brits, we're not that comfortable nudity at all, comfortable with nudity at all, are comfortable with nudity at all, vvei iven— comfortable with nudity at all, are we? even mean , i remember are we? even i mean, i remember first— are we? even i mean, i remember iirsr noiiiays— are we? even i mean, i remember first holidays-the— are we? even i mean, i remember first holidays the 80s in first holidays in the 80s in spain— first holidays in the 80s in spain ani— first holidays in the 80s in spain and seeing a topless lady on-peaen.— spain and seeing a topless lady on-ieaen. i— spain and seeing a topless lady on beach. i couldn't believe spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes,each. i couldn't believe spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes, but. i couldn't believe spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes, but ii couldn't believe spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes, but i can'tdn't believe spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes, but i can't speakelieve spain and seeing a topless lady on eyes, but i can't speak forfe my eyes, but i can't speak for all my eyes, but i can't speak for aii nurs— my eyes, but i can't speak for all brits, but— my eyes, but i can't speak for all brits, but i— my eyes, but i can't speak for all brits, but i can— my eyes, but i can't speak for all brits, but i can probably speak— all brits, but i can probably speak ion— all brits, but i can probably speak for quite— all brits, but i can probably speak for quite a few rees—moggs and speak for quite a few rees—moggs ant-nere— speak for quite a few rees—moggs and-we're definitely- speak for quite a few rees—moggs and we're definitely not and no, we're definitely not very— and no, we're definitely not very comfortable in public iispiays— very comfortable in public displays-lots- very comfortable in public displays lots of flesh and displays of lots of flesh and i treat— displays of lots of flesh and i treat ro— displays of lots of flesh and i dread to think— displays of lots of flesh and i dread to think what might burn our.— dread to think what might burn out okay,— dread to think what might burn out. okay. neit— dread to think what might burn out. okay, well, folks, let me ask— out. okay, well, folks, let me ask you— out. okay, well, folks, let me ask you strong— out. okay, well, folks, let me ask you strong image there, union— ask you strong image there, vnien i— ask you strong image there, which i can't— ask you strong image there, which i can't unsee . would you which i can't unsee. would you iike— which i can't unsee. would you iike tuit— which i can't unsee. would you like full processing that? would you iike—

like full processing that? would you iike ro— like full processing that? would you like to see— like full processing that? would you like to see our chief poiirieai— you like to see our chief political commentator, nigel ueison— political commentator, nigel ueison in— political commentator, nigel nelson, in the— political commentator, nigel nelson, in the buff? let me know.— nelson, in the buff? let me know. margaret— nelson, in the buff? let me know. margaret gb news dot com unar— know. margaret gb news dot com wnar ve— know. margaret gb news dot com wnar ve eouii— know. margaret gb news dot com what we could do— know. margaret gb news dot com what we could do if you want, you— what we could do if you want, you san— what we could do if you want, you seni— what we could do if you want, you can send in— what we could do if you want, you can send in some artist impressions— you can send in some artist impressions of— you can send in some artist impressions of what he might kook— impressions of what he might look-without— impressions of what he might look without clothes look like without his clothes on—you- look like without his clothes —onyou .- look like without his clothes- —onyou , neousrv on. but let me tell you, nervous iaugnrer— on. but let me tell you, nervous iaugnrer ove— on. but let me tell you, nervous laughter over there— on. but let me tell you, nervous laughter over there on camera roo. — laughter over there on camera roo. vean— laughter over there on camera roo. vean-vve- laughter over there on camera too. yeah, we have. too. yeah, you bet we have. aeruaiiy— too. yeah, you bet we have. aeruaiiy vie— too. yeah, you bet we have. actually we conducted because we like actually we conducted because we iike-pir— actually we conducted because we iike-pit oi— actually we conducted because we iike-pit of run— actually we conducted because we like-bit of fun on- like to have a bit of fun on anis— like to have a bit of fun on rnis snovv. — like to have a bit of fun on this show. we— like to have a bit of fun on this show. we-ai like to have a bit of fun on- this show. we-a survey this show. we conducted a survey viri— this show. we conducted a survey vvirn rne— this show. we conducted a survey with the-public- this show. we conducted a survey with the -public and - with the british public and ve-ve—you- with the british public and- we've_you throughout with the british public and- we"day,-you throughout with the british public and- we"day, is -you throughout with the british public and we"day, is there you throughout with the british public and we"day, is there anything'oughout with the british public and we"day, is there anything wrongit the day, is there anything wrong witn— the day, is there anything wrong win—in- with nude sunbathing in your gardeni— with nude sunbathing in your gardens-viii— with nude sunbathing in your garden? will bring you the garden? we will bring you the resuirs— garden? we will bring you the resuirs oi— garden? we will bring you the results of that— garden? we will bring you the results of that text poll after rnis. — results of that text poll after rnis. -ny— results of that text poll after rnis.-ny nak- results of that text poll after this. my mark meets guest this. plus, my mark meets guest is a— this. plus, my mark meets guest is a ran— this. plus, my mark meets guest is a pan am— this. plus, my mark meets guest is a ran ann is— this. plus, my mark meets guest is a pan am 73 flight hostage survivor— is a pan am 73 flight hostage survivor mike— is a pan am 73 flight hostage survivor mike threxton. mike inrevron— survivor mike threxton. mike inrexron .— survivor mike threxton. mike threxton . he— survivor mike threxton. mike threxton . he shares with me the threxton. he shares with me the inereiipie— threxton. he shares with me the incredible story— threxton. he shares with me the incredible story of— threxton. he shares with me the incredible story of how he survivei. — incredible story of how he survived. and— incredible story of how he survived. and you won't want to iss— survived. and you won't want to ii.— survived. and you won't want to it. see— survived. and you won't want to it. see you— survived. and you won't want to miss it. see you .—

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get to them very shortly, but we'll start with this . yes, it's we'll start with this. yes, it's time— we'll start with this. yes, it's time for— we'll start with this. yes, it's time for mark— we'll start with this. yes, it's time for mark meets and a truly extraordinary— time for mark meets and a truly extraordinary real— time for mark meets and a truly extraordinary real life story . extraordinary real life story. trike— extraordinary real life story. mike sexton _ extraordinary real life story. mike sexton was returned to the uk mike sexton was returned to the uk iron — mike sexton was returned to the uk from a— mike sexton was returned to the uk from a month— mike sexton was returned to the uk from a month long mountaineering trek when his pan am mountaineering trek when his pan an is— mountaineering trek when his pan ann is piane— mountaineering trek when his pan ann is piane vas— mountaineering trek when his pan am 73 plane was taken over by terrorist— am 73 plane was taken over by terrorist in— am 73 plane was taken over by terrorist in karachi— am 73 plane was taken over by terrorist in karachi in 1986. 21 peopie— terrorist in karachi in 1986. 21 peopie diei— terrorist in karachi in 1986. 21 people died and— terrorist in karachi in 1986. 21 people died and more than 100 peopie— people died and more than 100 peopie vene— people died and more than 100 people were badly injured. so why— people were badly injured. so vvny vas— people were badly injured. so vvny trike— people were badly injured. so why was mike spared ? the answer why was mike spared? the answer is reveaiei— why was mike spared? the answer is reveaiei in— why was mike spared? the answer is revealed in a— why was mike spared? the answer is revealed in a stunning new documentary— is revealed in a stunning new documentary called flight 73, vnien— documentary called flight 73, union is— documentary called flight 73, which is currently airing on the ixeeiienr— which is currently airing on the iveeiienr sky— which is currently airing on the excellent sky documents channel. and mike — excellent sky documents channel. and mike ioins— excellent sky documents channel. and mike joins me— excellent sky documents channel. and mike joins me now. mike, reki— and mike joins me now. mike, reii ne— and mike joins me now. mike, tell me about— and mike joins me now. mike, tell me about that flight . what tell me about that flight. what rne— tell me about that flight. what was the nature _ tell me about that flight. what was the nature of— tell me about that flight. what was the nature of your trip in me— was the nature of your trip in rne first— was the nature of your trip in the first place— was the nature of your trip in the first place .— was the nature of your trip in the first place . well, i went the first place. well, i went our— the first place. well, i went out ro— the first place. well, i went our to ion— the first place. well, i went our to pin a— the first place. well, i went out to join a bunch of people uno— out to join a bunch of people vvno were— out to join a bunch of people who were aiming— out to join a bunch of people who were aiming to climb one of the who were aiming to climb one of rne rnounansr— who were aiming to climb one of the mountains that— who were aiming to climb one of the mountains that my brother nai— the mountains that my brother nai eiinpei— the mountains that my brother had climbed three years earlier on in— had climbed three years earlier

on nis iasr— had climbed three years earlier on his last expedition, my irorner— on his last expedition, my brother died— on his last expedition, my brother died up a mountain in nonnern— brother died up a mountain in northern pakistan in 1983, died of attitude— northern pakistan in 1983, died of altitude sickness , and i had of altitude sickness, and i had wanted— of altitude sickness, and i had wanted ro— of altitude sickness, and i had wanted to go— of altitude sickness, and i had wanted to go and— of altitude sickness, and i had wanted to go and see the place. mowi— wanted to go and see the place. new. in— wanted to go and see the place. new. in not— wanted to go and see the place. new. in not a— wanted to go and see the place. now, i'm not a mountaineer- wanted to go and see the place. now, i'm not a mountaineer at all. so when some other people from his medical school where he trained as a doctor said that they were going to go to the place i went along, i did what i regarded as an incredibly difficult walk in, walk out, um, got back to the edge of civilisation in pakistan and was very keen to come home. and so i booked myself a different flight from everybody else . um, and it from everybody else. um, and it turned out to be this one, uh , turned out to be this one, uh, uh, so i left everybody behind, went and caught this plane and got myself . indeed. when did you got myself. indeed. when did you first reaiise— got myself. indeed. when did you first realise there— got myself. indeed. when did you first realise there was— first realise there was a propien — first realise there was a propien on— first realise there was a problem on that flight? because you-re— problem on that flight? because you on me— problem on that flight? because you're on the runway and you're expecting— you're on the runway and you're expeering ro— you're on the runway and you're expecting to take— you're on the runway and you're expecting to take off. there's a eornrnoiron — expecting to take off. there's a commotion. what— expecting to take off. there's a commotion. what happened next? we iusr— commotion. what happened next? we rusr gor— commotion. what happened next? vve rusr got on— commotion. what happened next? we just got on the— commotion. what happened next? we just got on the plane. “ec

we just got on the plane. i had aeruaiiy— we just got on the plane. i had actually pushed— we just got on the plane. i had actually pushed the boat out and bought a business class ticket for very much the first time in my life . um, because it was the my life. um, because it was the only ticket available and, and i'd gone up the front steps and been directed back to my seat and doors were still open , and doors were still open, passengers still coming in. i put my hand luggage on my seat and then there was, there was noise in the second doorway where the economy class passengers were coming in and there was a man struggling with a attendant and then a flight attendant and then there a shout from me there was a shout from behind me where i'd just come in. and then there a in uniform with there was a man in uniform with a thought he was a a rifle. i thought he was a proper soldier who'd come to deal with whatever the problem was in the second doorway. but actually then saying, actually he was then saying, this is a hijack. everybody put your up. um and. and then your hands up. um and. and then it began in. indeed. now, mike, i it began in. indeed. now, mike, i understand— it began in. indeed. now, mike, i understand the— c g " indeed. now, mike, i understand the hijacking did not go— i understand the hijacking did not go according— i understand the hijacking did not go according to plan. what rne— not go according to plan. what was the original— not go according to plan. what was the original intention of ine— was the original intention of the terrorists— was the original intention of the terrorists ?_ was the original intention of the terrorists ? what were they the terrorists? what were they pianning— the terrorists? what were they pianning ro — the terrorists? what were they pianning to to— the terrorists? what were they planning to do ? voice.

the terrorists? what were they planning to do ? wc“ the terrorists? what were they planning to do ? viki“ i: i: " c planning to do? well, we didn't find that out for many years. what happened was that the pilots escaped right at the very beginning of the of the hijack. they had the hijackers were not that bright , they had the hijackers were not that bright, and they didn't realise that the pilot sits upstairs on a jumbo jet. and so they had a little moment of confusion where they didn't know where where to go to take over the plane. so the pilots escaped. so we were stuck on the ground and now they said they wanted another crew to fly the plane to cyprus to negotiate for the relief of the release of some other terrorists who were held in prison in cyprus. actually, what they've said more recently is that they wanted to do a 9/11. they wanted to fly the plane over israel and fly it into some military target in israel and that so obviously, they couldn't say that. they certainly wouldn't get another crew. um but that was that was apparently what they intended to do. it was a suicide mission

with all of us taken along for the ride . truly chilling how did the ride. truly chilling how did you ger— the ride. truly chilling how did you get nosen— the ride. truly chilling how did you get chosen as— ” cit; truly chilling how did you get chosen as one of the nosrage— you get chosen as one of the nosrage tor— you get chosen as one of the hostage for the— you get chosen as one of the hostage for the terrorists to negotiate — hostage for the terrorists to negotiate over— hostage for the terrorists to negotiate over ? voice. negotiate over? well, they picked somebody out at random and negotiated and then shot him and negotiated and then shot him and threw him out . and then they and threw him out. and then they decided they wanted an american. so they got one of the flight attendants to collect in passports . and with incredible passports. and with incredible bravery and ingenuity , he she bravery and ingenuity, he she decided to not give him any white americans . when she white americans. when she realised that they would be in realised that they would be in real trouble. all the all the cabin crew were indian, so he wasn't managing to find the enemy very easily. um so she collected all the passports. she got rid of all the american passports with white faces, anglo—saxon names and presented this pile to him. he realised that all of the americans appeared to be indian and pakistani in origin , so he pakistani in origin, so he decided to choose a british

passport which happened to be mine . so they announced . would mine. so they announced. would mr michael john thaxton please come to the front of the plane? and i had to go up there and wait them to decide shoot wait for them to decide to shoot me extraordinarily . you had the me extraordinarily. you had the opportunity,— me extraordinarily. you had the opportunity. wt..— me extraordinarily. you had the opportunity, mike, of— : can you had the opportunity, mike, of later speaking— opportunity, mike, of later speaking ro— opportunity, mike, of later speaking to one of the men iaiiei— speaking to one of the men raiiei ion— speaking to one of the men jailed for this— speaking to one of the men jailed for this hijacking, a man vvno— jailed for this hijacking, a man vvno nignr— jailed for this hijacking, a man who might have— jailed for this hijacking, a man who might have killed you . did who might have killed you. did you fine— who might have killed you. did you find our— who might have killed you. did you find out why— who might have killed you. did you find out why you were spared,— you find out why you were spared. vny— you find out why you were spared, why they didn't shoot you— spared, why they didn't shoot you i — spared, why they didn't shoot you i ves.— spared, why they didn't shoot you ? yes. this— spared, why they didn't shoot you ? yes. this was- spared, why they didn't shoot you ? “4115 " spared, why they didn't shoot you ? «it: " you? yes. this was this was arranged as part of this documentary. and i thought long and hard before agreeing to do it. um, but i realised that even after all these years, not, not not far off, 40 years ago , there not far off, 40 years ago, there were things that i wanted to ask him. and at the end of the hijack, they put me back with the rest. i'd been up the front 12 hours waiting for them to make a demand that would not be met. then they would shoot met. and then they would shoot met. and then they would shoot me and so i said, you know, why did you put me back with the others? and he said, oh, it was

because of what you said about your brother having died in the mountains. i had said this mountains. and i had said this when i was very first called forward and 12 hours earlier i had said , please don't hurt me. had said, please don't hurt me. my had said, please don't hurt me. my brother died in the mountains. my parents have no one else. and i didn't think he was listening . i didn't think was listening. i didn't think that he would remember that 12 hours didn't think he hours later. i didn't think he would remember that 36 years later. um but that seems to be it . that that i made myself in it. that that i made myself in some way human to him. and, and he decided he couldn't kill me. i mean , didn't stop him opening i mean, didn't stop him opening fire at random into the body of the passengers. but he put me in with the others to take my chance in a sense , your your chance in a sense, your your dear late brother saved your life, mike. yes. i mean , it's. life, mike. yes. i mean, it's. it's sort of nice to think of it that way. um it's a sort of

hollywood ending, i suppose . um, hollywood ending, i suppose. um, but maybe he is. maybe he is somewhere , uh, having a good somewhere, uh, having a good chuckle about that . mike, how chuckle about that. mike, how has the chuckle about that. mike, how nas rne rear— chuckle about that. mike, how has the fear of— chuckle about that. mike, how has the fear of death- ff mike, how has the fear of death shaped the rest or— has the fear of death shaped the rest of your— has the fear of death shaped the rest of your life— has the fear of death shaped the rest of your life since that attack— rest of your life since that attack a— rest of your life since that attack ? um— rest of your life since that attack ? um well, i guess the attack? um well, i guess the mina— attack? um well, i guess the rning— attack? um well, i guess the rning is— attack? um well, i guess the main thing is it— attack? um well, i guess the main thing is it gives me a very vveii— main thing is it gives me a very veii ieiinei— main thing is it gives me a very well defined sense— main thing is it gives me a very well defined sense of proportion . gm,— well defined sense of proportion . gm, tiere— well defined sense of proportion . um, there are— well defined sense of proportion . um, there are things- well defined sense of proportion . um, there are things that matter and there are things that don't really matter. and although i can get annoyed with things that don't really matter, it doesn't take long for me to just remind myself that i didn't expect to be here. um, and that, you know, that that's a good thing to to, carry around with you. mike i'm so glad you're in one piece. and we're, we're able to nave— one piece. and we're, we're able to nave rnis— ccc and we're, we're able to have this conversation. let me— to have this conversation. let me reki— to have this conversation. let me reii you,— to have this conversation. let me tell you, the— to have this conversation. let me tell you, the documentary is satiet— me tell you, the documentary is eaiiei riignr— me tell you, the documentary is called flight 73,— me tell you, the documentary is called flight 73, which is surrenriy— called flight 73, which is currently available on the sky ioeunenrary— currently available on the sky documentary channel. well worth a varen. — documentary channel. well worth avaren. trike— documentary channel. well worth a watch. mike thank you so much for roining— a watch. mike thank you so much for roining us— a watch. mike thank you so much for joining us. thank you, mark.

forjoining us. thank you, mark. kenarkaiie— forjoining us. thank you, mark. remarkable. what— forjoining us. thank you, mark. remarkable. what a story . forjoining us. thank you, mark. remarkable. what a story. coming up next— remarkable. what a story. coming up next in— remarkable. what a story. coming up next in my— remarkable. what a story. coming up next in my take— remarkable. what a story. coming up next in my take at ten, why are up next in my take at ten, why iories— up next in my take at ten, why are tories drawing— up next in my take at ten, why are tories drawing up plans to let are tories drawing up plans to re eniiiren— are tories drawing up plans to let children change their sex at senooii— let children change their sex at school? who's— let children change their sex at school? who's going to save our eniiiren— school? who's going to save our children from _ school? who's going to save our children from this— school? who's going to save our children from this danger path? let children from this danger path? ier ne— children from this danger path? ier ne reki— children from this danger path? let me tell you— children from this danger path? let me tell you folks that we've got your— let me tell you folks that we've got your enaiis— let me tell you folks that we've got your emails coming in thick ani— got your emails coming in thick and fast— got your emails coming in thick and fast ani— got your emails coming in thick and fast and it's— got your emails coming in thick and fast and it's very busy on me— and fast and it's very busy on rne enaii. — and fast and it's very busy on rne enaii. i— and fast and it's very busy on the email. i wish— and fast and it's very busy on the email. i wish i'd had more the email. iwish i'd had more time— the email. iwish i'd had more time earlier.— the email. i wish i'd had more time earlier. a— the email. iwish i'd had more time earlier. a few— the email. i wish i'd had more time earlier. a few complaints about— time earlier. a few complaints about my— time earlier. a few complaints about my panellist , uh, time earlier. a few complaints about my panellist, uh, nigel ueison— about my panellist, uh, nigel ueison ani— about my panellist, uh, nigel nelson, and his— about my panellist, uh, nigel nelson, and his remarks about the nelson, and his remarks about rne euirure— nelson, and his remarks about the culture wars. _ nelson, and his remarks about the culture wars. hi mark, says aian— the culture wars. hi mark, says aian uigei— the culture wars. hi mark, says alan, nigel nelson, who thinks rnar— alan, nigel nelson, who thinks rnar vvrneon— alan, nigel nelson, who thinks that women can— alan, nigel nelson, who thinks that women can have a willy. sorry,— that women can have a willy. sorry, i— that women can have a willy. sorry. i cant— that women can have a willy. sorry, i can't take— that women can have a willy. sorry, i can't take this guy seriousiy— sorry, i can't take this guy seriously on— sorry, i can't take this guy seriously on anything. let's nave— seriously on anything. let's nave a— seriously on anything. let's have a look.— seriously on anything. let's have a look. a— seriously on anything. let's have a look. a couple of other enaiis— have a look. a couple of other emails before— have a look. a couple of other emails before we— have a look. a couple of other emails before we get to the break — emails before we get to the break mark— emails before we get to the break. mark gb— emails before we get to the break. mark gb news .com nude suniarning— break. mark gb news .com nude sunparning your— break. mark gb news .com nude sunbathing your panel amazed me. says— sunbathing your panel amazed me. says nag.— sunbathing your panel amazed me. says vieror. ger— sunbathing your panel amazed me. says victor, get real. _ sunbathing your panel amazed me. says victor, get real. 14% of tie— says victor, get real. 14% of the population _ says victor, get real. 14% of the population admit going naked . ani— the population admit going naked . ana rnere— the population admit going naked . and there are— the population admit going naked . and there are more than that. its— . and there are more than that. its your— . and there are more than that. its your garden. — . and there are more than that. it's your garden. you were born naked— it's your garden. you were born nakei .— it's your garden. you were born nakei . inaus— it's your garden. you were born naked . that's a— it's your garden. you were born naked . that's a natural state. naked. that's a natural state. ani— naked. that's a natural state. and rnar-s— naked. that's a natural state. and that's how— naked. that's a natural state. and that's how it— naked. that's a natural state. and that's how it should be. inanks. — and that's how it should be. inanks. keep— and that's how it should be. thanks. keep those emails coming.— thanks. keep those emails eoning. iii— thanks. keep those emails coming. i'll be— thanks. keep those emails coming. i'll be with thanks. keep those emails- coming. i'll be -with the coming. i'll be dealing with the woke—

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pages from exactly 1030 sharp . pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so iii— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so it ie— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so i'll be dealing— pages from exactly 1030 sharp. so i'll be dealing with the woke iiuearion— so i'll be dealing with the woke education secretary, jilly keegan— education secretary, jilly keegan in— education secretary, jilly keegan. in a— education secretary, jilly keegan, in a couple of minutes time. — keegan, in a couple of minutes time. sne— keegan, in a couple of minutes time. she wants— keegan, in a couple of minutes time. she wants kids to be able to transition— time. she wants kids to be able to transition and— time. she wants kids to be able to transition and change their gender— to transition and change their gender ai— to transition and change their gender at school.— to transition and change their gender at school. what's wrong viri— gender at school. what's wrong vviin iearning— gender at school. what's wrong with learning mathematics? i'll see with learning mathematics? i'll you— with learning mathematics? i'll you in— with learning mathematics? i'll you in ivo— with learning mathematics? i'll see you in two minutes after the neaiiines— see you in two minutes after the headlines with— see you in two minutes after the headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. soot— headlines with aaron armstrong. good evening— headlines with aaron armstrong. good evening to— headlines with aaron armstrong. good evening to you. �*0 0�* good evening to you. 10:01. i'm aaron— good evening to you. 10:01. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the united states believes yesterday's armed rebellion will weaken vladimir putin's government and the russian war effort. the leader of the wagner group, yevgeny prigozhin , will be exiled to prigozhin, will be exiled to belarus and stripped of control of the mercenary fighters after his short lived mutiny ended last night. but us secretary of state antony blinken says the unprecedented challenge to putin's leadership has exposed fresh cracks that may take

months to play out. but it could aid ukraine's counter offensive against russian forces. to aid ukraine's counter offensive against russian forces . to the against russian forces. to the extent this presents- extent this presents a distraction,- extent this presents a distraction, a loss of focus for ine— distraction, a loss of focus for rne russians— distraction, a loss of focus for the russians that— distraction, a loss of focus for the russians that may help the ukrainians— the russians that may help the ukrainians on— the russians that may help the ukrainians on the— the russians that may help the ukrainians on the battlefield. ixaeriy— ukrainians on the battlefield. exactly where _ ukrainians on the battlefield. exactly where this goes. we ion-r— exactly where this goes. we ion-i knov. — exactly where this goes. we don't know. but— exactly where this goes. we don't know. but what we do know is inat— don't know. but what we do know is inai vveve— don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen— don't know. but what we do know is that we've seen real cracks ernereg— is that we've seen real cracks eerge again— is that we've seen real cracks eerge again .— is that we've seen real cracks eerge again , a— is that we've seen real cracks emerge again , a direct challenge emerge again, a direct challenge to ruin-s— emerge again, a direct challenge to putin's authority . ' i: emerge again, a direct challenge to putin's authority . ' r: to putin's authority. and while the immediate risk to putin appears to have been contained by emergency security measures remain in place in moscow, as russian journalist alexei, we're told gb news earlier, everything is has been resolved . it seems is has been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe - is has been resolved. it seems that the catastrophe has- : it seems that the catastrophe has been avoided— that the catastrophe has been avoided .— that the catastrophe has been avoided . vve— that the catastrophe has been avoided . we still— that the catastrophe has been avoided . we still do have some avoided. we still do have some extra— avoided. we still do have some extra tav— avoided. we still do have some extra law enforcement here on the extra law enforcement here on tne streets— extra law enforcement here on the streets and— extra law enforcement here on the streets and they are wearing neavy— the streets and they are wearing neavy gear.— the streets and they are wearing some heavy gear. for example , some heavy gear. for example, iuitet—prooi— some heavy gear. for example, bullet—proof vests— some heavy gear. for example, bullet—proof vests and helmets. t hey— bullet—proof vests and helmets. iney nave— bullet—proof vests and helmets. they have machine guns , which they have machine guns, which union— they have machine guns, which union is— they have machine guns, which which is unusual.— they have machine guns, which which is unusual. but as you can nere— which is unusual. but as you can nere iive— which is unusual. but as you can nere iive .— which is unusual. but as you can see here live , life— which is unusual. but as you can see here live , life continues. see here live, life continues. ine— see here live, life continues. the situation _ see here live, life continues. the situation here in downtown iioso— the situation here in downtown moscow doesn't— the situation here in downtown moscow doesn't see many any

tiiierent— moscow doesn't see many any different from _ moscow doesn't see many any different from the— moscow doesn't see many any different from the usual . the different from the usual. the ket— different from the usual. the itet square— different from the usual. the itet square is— different from the usual. the red square is still closed, but put— red square is still closed, but put otner— red square is still closed, but but other than— red square is still closed, but but other than that, everything tine— but other than that, everything seems fine with— but other than that, everything seems fine with authorities investigating— seems fine with authorities investigating the deaths of five peopie— investigating the deaths of five peopie in— investigating the deaths of five peopie in tie— investigating the deaths of five people in the titan submersible inpiosion— people in the titan submersible inpiosion say— people in the titan submersible implosion say they're hoping the tragedy— implosion say they're hoping the tragedy viii— implosion say they're hoping the tragedy will lead— implosion say they're hoping the tragedy will lead to tighter regutation— tragedy will lead to tighter regulation of— tragedy will lead to tighter regulation of the industry . regulation of the industry. iiese— regulation of the industry. iiese ar— regulation of the industry. these are some— regulation of the industry. these are some live- regulation of the industry. these are some live pictures of saint john's harbour in newfoundland where the inquiry is taking place on the polar prince. that's the ship that launched the titan. now those who were on board when contact was lost with the sub are being interviewed. teams from canada and the us are investigating the matter. certainly that is one of the matter. certainly that is one of tie goats— matter. certainly that is one of tie goats oi— matter. certainly that is one of the goals of the— certainly that is one of the goals of the mbappe. the that-s— the goals of the mbappe. the tnat-s an— the goals of the mbappe. the that's an opportunity to learn from the incident and then work with our international partners worldwide to do exactly what you mentioned, improve regulation or international safety standards. this salvage operations are ongoing. i'm not going to give the details of what the recovery has been to date, but the resources are on site and capable of recovering the debris

. the duchess of york is recuperating, following a successful operation to treat breast cancer. sarah ferguson reeentiy— sarah ferguson was recently diagnosed with an eariy— was recently diagnosed with an eariy iorn — was recently diagnosed with an eariy iorn oi— was recently diagnosed with an early form of the— was recently diagnosed with an early form of the disease after a routine— early form of the disease after a routine mammogram having been symptom— a routine mammogram having been synpton iree. — a routine mammogram having been synpton iree. sne— a routine mammogram having been symptom free. she was released iron— symptom free. she was released iron nospitai— symptom free. she was released from hospital earlier and is now reovenng— from hospital earlier and is now recovering with— from hospital earlier and is now recovering with her family in windsor— recovering with her family in windsor iv— recovering with her family in windsor tv online dab and tunein itatio. — windsor tv online dab and tunein itatio. inis— windsor tv online dab and tunein itatio. inis is— windsor tv online dab and tunein radio. this is gb— windsor tv online dab and tunein radio. this is gb news. now it is task— radio. this is gb news. now it is task to— radio. this is gb news. now it is task to .— is back to. mark i my— is back to. mark i my thanks- is back to. mark l my thanks toi is back to. mark my thanks to the brilliant aaron who's an aaron armstrong who's back in an hours aaron armstrong who's back in an hour's welcome to mark hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. seven years on from brexit, with the fastest growth in g7 over that last growth in the g7 over that last two year period, record trade with the eu and with britain avoiding recession. unlike the eurozone , have remainers been eurozone, have remainers been proved ? i'll be asking proved wrong? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , politics tonight's newsmaker, politics legend ann widdecombe . plus, we legend ann widdecombe. plus, we got the papers at 1030 sharp

with full pundit reaction and my punst with full pundit reaction and my pundits will be nominating their headune pundits will be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes , big stories, big guests, zeroes, big stories, big guests, and always big opinions. this is mark dolan tonight. let's and always big opinions. this is mark dolan tonight . let's start mark dolan tonight. let's start with my take . at ten, the with my take. at ten, the education secretary, gillian keegan's plan to be the new margaret thatcher and win the hearts of the tory right lasted about 11 minutes after it was revealed she plans to allow pupils to choose their own pronouns and change gender at school. if parents give their consent. she's obviously already relinquished any future leadership ambitions. tory backbenchers will hate this go woke no vote. how can this government barely recognisable as concern lviv these days? consider a plan in which teachers now have to ask pupils whether they're a boy or a girl that day . it's confusing and that day. it's confusing and potentially damaging to those children involved who may come

to regret this later in life. and it's disruptive to the other kids who controversially don't think they were born in the wrong body . now, i take the wrong body. now, i take the point about parental consent, and that is an important step. children unilaterally changing their gender without mum and dad knowing is truly abhorrent . but knowing is truly abhorrent. but i don't see this as much of a solution. it will be meat and dnnk solution. it will be meat and drink to teachers like that nutjob at an east sussex school who called two pupils a disgrace for questioning whether one of the girls should be allowed to call herself a cat . let me give call herself a cat. let me give you a sense of how mad this is going. the telegraph report that some secondary schools in england have agreed to affirm children's demands to be recognised not just as cats acas, but also horses and wait for it dinosaur cause that's right. little jemmy isn't a boy anymore. he's a triceratops . anymore. he's a triceratops. folks, who needs jurassic park when you've got your local comprehensive kyiv? if an adult

chooses to identify by a different gender, good luck to them. as a courtesy, i would always respect a grown adults pronouns or choice of name. it's a free country. i've got close friends who have been on that important and joyous journey , important and joyous journey, but i've got to red lines is first of all, women's hard won sex based rights , the integrity sex based rights, the integrity of female sport , female only of female sport, female only changing rooms , female only changing rooms, female only prisons and female only rape crisis centres . if that's not crisis centres. if that's not too much to ask . and my other too much to ask. and my other red line is children who can so easily be caught up in the latest fashion craze, which i believe at the moment is transgenderism . um, it's been transgenderism. um, it's been reported that cases of anorexia among teenage girls are in decline . great news, but only to decline. great news, but only to be replaced by the toxic myth that somehow you're in the wrong body or even the wrong species . body or even the wrong species. one social contagion in replaced by another . both are rooted in

by another. both are rooted in the belief that if you change your body somehow you'll be able to love yourself as the top author, lionel shriver puts it, both diagnoses have significant intersections with autism, anxiety and depression, making patients susceptible to a tangible seeming solution to a generalised discontent. both populations mistake self—annihilation in for a route to invite enlightenment and rebirth . so why does all of this rebirth. so why does all of this matter ? well, because if you're matter? well, because if you're an adult and you transition , an adult and you transition, that's a wonderful thing. but it if it's who you are, of course you go for it. children are different. children are impressionable. they're vulnerable to brainwashing and grooming . and it's just too grooming. and it's just too early for a child to make a decision like that , particularly decision like that, particularly given that if schools became an environment where you can change your gender. let me tell you that mediaeval chest flattening devices to stop your breasts growing puberty blockers to stop you becoming a reproductive

aduh you becoming a reproductive adult , and you becoming a reproductive adult, and the you becoming a reproductive adult , and the butchery of adult, and the butchery of removing sex organs will inevitably follow . this new inevitably follow. this new policy would allow schools to be the breeding ground for interventions that a whole generation of children may come to regret . and i think it's to regret. and i think it's simple. you wait till you're 18. currently a thousand parents are considering suing the nhs tavistock centre for irreversible damage to their children and i suspect that's the tip of the iceberg. and let's not forget the travesty of children and young people who are so—called gender non—conforming in other words, being a camp boy or a tomboy girl who would likely go on to be gay or lesbian . they are be gay or lesbian. they are instead, under the rules of this crazy new religion being placed on a path to change their sex. this is why so many gay people and so many women reject the new pride flag because it represents not just deep misogyny with the erasing of women, but homophobe . here, too, with a message to lesbians, for example, that if

you aren't attracted to a fully intact biological male who calls himself female, you're a bigot. what a time to be alive under these latest plans, schools will be an incubator for this crazy ideology . and we, the taxpayers, ideology. and we, the taxpayers, will be paying for it. now, as i've said before , the case for i've said before, the case for home schooling grows stronger by the day . in the end, schools the day. in the end, schools should be politics free and a safe space for children to be just that child . an the bottom just that child. an the bottom line is they shouldn't be asked what sex they are today or tomorrow, or if they're rabbits or a dinosaur or a hedgehog or something. they are there at school to learn reading, writing and arithmetic . not that they and arithmetic. not that they may be one of 100 genders. is it too much to ask that we let kids be kids? it's time to end the war on gender and it starts in the classroom . your reaction?

the classroom. your reaction? mark gb news .com. let's get the views now of my top pundits tonight , former mep and tonight, former mep and political commentator annunzio peter rees—mogg, the leader of the uk independence party. neil hamilton , and gb news senior hamilton, and gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson annunziata. you are a mother. how many kids do you have? three, or should i say ive— have? three, or should i say i-ve got— have? three, or should i say i-ve got a— have? three, or should i say i've got a horse,— have? three, or should i say i've got a horse, a- �* three, or should i say i've got a horse, a unicorn c three, or should i say i've got a horse, a unicorn and a dinosaur— i've got a horse, a unicorn and a tinosauri — i've got a horse, a unicorn and a dinosaur ? yeah,- i've got a horse, a unicorn and a dinosaur ? / g a dinosaur? yeah, you might. your reaction to this move by gillian keegan, the education secretary, to allow children to transition with parental consent in a school setting . the in a school setting. the parental consent is important. i don't take away from that, but sittian— i don't take away from that, but gillian keegan_ i don't take away from that, but gillian keegan seems to be on a bit gillian keegan seems to be on a pit oi— gillian keegan seems to be on a pit oi a— gillian keegan seems to be on a bit of a mission— gillian keegan seems to be on a bit of a mission to— gillian keegan seems to be on a bit of a mission to make it much iot— bit of a mission to make it much easier for children— bit of a mission to make it much easier for children under 18 to eonptetety— easier for children under 18 to completely change their life and pernanentiy— completely change their life and pernanentty ie. — completely change their life and permanently be. i— completely change their life and permanently be. i think that's the permanently be. i think that's tne reaiiy— permanently be. i think that's the really worrying thing that not onty— the really worrying thing that not onty is— the really worrying thing that not only is there— the really worrying thing that not only is there the feminist point— not only is there the feminist point .— not only is there the feminist point . vvnien— not only is there the feminist point, which i— not only is there the feminist point, which i find abhorrent,

tnat— point, which i find abhorrent, tnat ve— point, which i find abhorrent, that we taught— point, which i find abhorrent, that we taught and fought for gins— that we taught and fought for girts to— that we taught and fought for girts to ie— that we taught and fought for girls to be whatever they wanted to ie. — girls to be whatever they wanted to ie. iney— girls to be whatever they wanted to be. they could— girls to be whatever they wanted to be. they could be firemen, tney— to be. they could be firemen, tney eouit— to be. they could be firemen, tney eouit ie— to be. they could be firemen, they could be soldiers, they eoutt— they could be soldiers, they eouit vvea— they could be soldiers, they could wear trousers . could wear trousers. revolutionary, not that long ago,— revolutionary, not that long ago. oniy— revolutionary, not that long ago. onty nov— revolutionary, not that long ago, only now to tell them that if ago, only now to tell them that it tnat-s— ago, only now to tell them that if that's what— ago, only now to tell them that if that's what they— ago, only now to tell them that if that's what they want to do, in tact, — if that's what they want to do, in fact, they're— if that's what they want to do, in fact, they're meant to be a toy. — in fact, they're meant to be a toy. nut— in fact, they're meant to be a toy. nut aiso— in fact, they're meant to be a boy. but also that— in fact, they're meant to be a boy. but also that all of this is under— boy. but also that all of this is under able,— boy. but also that all of this is under able, once you've made the is under able, once you've made tne teeision— is under able, once you've made the decision to— is under able, once you've made the decision to go— is under able, once you've made the decision to go down the puberty— the decision to go down the puberty blocker— the decision to go down the puberty blocker route and then the operations— puberty blocker route and then the operations route, there is no going— the operations route, there is no going task.— the operations route, there is no going back. we don't let enittren— no going back. we don't let children do— no going back. we don't let children do that— no going back. we don't let children do that on anything etse— children do that on anything eise . — children do that on anything eise . tray— children do that on anything eise . iiay i— children do that on anything else . may i ask- children do that on anything else . iii children do that on anything else. : else. may i ask how you would react if one of your children came home and said, actually, mummy, i'm not a little girl now, i'm a little boy or i'm a hedgehog? well, i mean , i think hedgehog? well, i mean, i think my tnree— hedgehog? well, i mean, i think my tnree year— hedgehog? well, i mean, i think my three year old— hedgehog? well, i mean, i think my three year old boy- 333c well, i mean, i think my three year old boy does want to ie— my three year old boy does want to ie a— my three year old boy does want to be a dinosaur— my three year old boy does want to be a dinosaur and half the time— to be a dinosaur and half the time tninks— to be a dinosaur and half the time thinks he— to be a dinosaur and half the time thinks he is,— to be a dinosaur and half the time thinks he is, but he's he's not— time thinks he is, but he's he's not going— time thinks he is, but he's he's not going to— time thinks he is, but he's he's not going to to— time thinks he is, but he's he's not going to do anything about it. in— not going to do anything about it. in not— not going to do anything about it. in not going— not going to do anything about it. i'm not going let him it. i'm not going to let him paint— it. i'm not going to let him paint-on— it. i'm not going to let him paint-on nin- it. i'm not going to let him- paint-on him permanently, paint scales on him permanently, but paint scales on him permanently, outli— paint scales on him permanently, iutli-vant— paint scales on him permanently, iutli-vvant to— paint scales on him permanently, butll-want to talk- paint scales on him permanently, but i want to talk to but it i would want to talk to tnen. — but it i would want to talk to tnen. i—to- but it i would want to talk to them. i_to see. but it i would want to talk to. them. i_to see what them. i would want to see what tney— them. i would want to see what tney vete— them. i would want to see what

tney going— them. i would want to see what they were going through and why tney— they were going through and why tney-going— they were going through and why tney-going-it.- they were going through it. i tnink— they were going through it. i tnink its— they were going through it. i think it's so— they were going through it. i think it's so important to try ant—unat- think it's so important to try ant—vnat it- think it's so important to try and—what it is. think it's so important to try. and—what it is that's and understand what it is that's going— and understand what it is that's going on— and understand what it is that's going onltneir— and understand what it is that's going on their head. that is going on in their head. that is it a— going on in their head. that is it a iike— going on in their head. that is it a like anorexia,— going on in their head. that is it a like anorexia, a it a like anorexia, that it's a torn— it a like anorexia, that it's a torn oi— it a like anorexia, that it's a form of self— it a like anorexia, that it's a form of self loathing that you are-nt— form of self loathing that you aren't comfortable with what you are, aren't comfortable with what you so you want— aren't comfortable with what you are, so you want to— aren't comfortable with what you are, so you want to be something etse— are, so you want to be something eise ant— are, so you want to be something else and something— are, so you want to be something else and something seems else and something else seems better—atvaysl better that the grass is always greener— better that the grass is always greener orlit— better that the grass is always greener orlit a— better that the grass is always greener or it a really deep, greener or is it a really deep, tong— greener or is it a really deep, tong tern— greener or is it a really deep, long term feeling in which case you ean— long term feeling in which case you enange— long term feeling in which case you can change when you're 18? out— you can change when you're 18? out i— you can change when you're 18? out i tnink— you can change when you're 18? out i tnink ve— you can change when you're 18? but i think we don't want to jump— but i think we don't want to pump aneat— but i think we don't want to pump aneat oi— but i think we don't want to jump ahead of ourselves and make decisions— jump ahead of ourselves and make decisions iot— jump ahead of ourselves and make decisions for children too young to make— decisions for children too young to make up— decisions for children too young to make up their— decisions for children too young to make up their minds for the rest— to make up their minds for the rest oi— to make up their minds for the rest oi tneir— to make up their minds for the rest of their lives— to make up their minds for the rest of their lives and force tnen — rest of their lives and force tnen tovn — rest of their lives and force them down a— rest of their lives and force them down a route where they cannot— them down a route where they cannot not— them down a route where they cannot not do— them down a route where they cannot not do a— them down a route where they cannot not do a u—turn and go task— cannot not do a u—turn and go back — cannot not do a u—turn and go back its— cannot not do a u—turn and go back its an— cannot not do a u—turn and go back . c it?" “ciiiisc g cannot not do a u—turn and go back . c r?“ “ciiiisc g suing back. it's an interesting story this nigel, isn't it? because this nigel, isn't it? because this is blue on blue in terms of the tories is rather divided on this issue. gillian keegan is the education secretary, but the likes of miriam cates is a respected tory mp . not happy at respected tory mp. not happy at all with this move ? no, it's all with this move? no, it's dividing all with this move? no, it's tiviting tne— all with this move? no, it's dividing the tory— c no, it's dividing the tory party in the nay— dividing the tory party in the way its— dividing the tory party in the same way it's dividing the country.— same way it's dividing the eountry. ine— same way it's dividing the country. the one good thing i tnink— country. the one good thing i tnink tnat— country. the one good thing i think that is— country. the one good thing i think that is happening is that tiere—

think that is happening is that tnere-ie— think that is happening is that there-be proper- think that is happening is that there be proper government there will be proper government guitanee— there will be proper government guidance—about- there will be proper government guidance about what guidance for teachers about what snouit— guidance for teachers about what should actually— guidance for teachers about what should actually happen and you-ve— should actually happen and youve got— should actually happen and youve got to— should actually happen and you've got to bear in mind that tnis— you've got to bear in mind that tnis nas— you've got to bear in mind that this has already— you've got to bear in mind that this has already happening in seioois— this has already happening in schools. take— this has already happening in schools. take away the cats and the schools. take away the cats and tie-ieeause— schools. take away the cats and the-because you - schools. take away the cats and the because you can't the dinosaurs because you can't enange— the dinosaurs because you can't enange a— the dinosaurs because you can't enange a speeies— the dinosaurs because you can't change a species and teachers snouit— change a species and teachers should actually— change a species and teachers should actually make that clear to . should actually make that clear to-liut— should actually make that clear to-liut-it- to children. an but when it comes down to— to children. an but when it comes down to kids being transgender— comes down to kids being transgender ,_ comes down to kids being transgender , where it's already transgender, where it's already nappening— transgender, where it's already nappening .— transgender, where it's already nappening . ant— transgender, where it's already happening , and from what i can happening, and from what i can gatner— happening, and from what i can gatner iron— happening, and from what i can gather from both— happening, and from what i can gather from both teachers and iron— gather from both teachers and iron tne— gather from both teachers and from the children— gather from both teachers and from the children is that most of from the children is that most oi tnen— from the children is that most of them don't— from the children is that most of them don't bat— from the children is that most of them don't bat an eyelid aiout— of them don't bat an eyelid about it.— of them don't bat an eyelid about it. they— of them don't bat an eyelid about it. they find they find tnis— about it. they find they find this perfectly— about it. they find they find this perfectly acceptable . well, this perfectly acceptable. well, ant— this perfectly acceptable. well, ant tiere— this perfectly acceptable. well, ant tnere nay— this perfectly acceptable. well, and there may be— this perfectly acceptable. well, and there may be some arrangements- and there may be some arrangements have to be made for enanging— arrangements have to be made for enanging rrn.oos— arrangements have to be made for changing rooms. that kind of tiing— changing rooms. that kind of tning. nut— changing rooms. that kind of thing. but beyond that, the kids tnenseives— thing. but beyond that, the kids themselves are— thing. but beyond that, the kids themselves are perfectly happy witn— themselves are perfectly happy vvitn tnis— themselves are perfectly happy vvitn tnis going— themselves are perfectly happy with this going on. and the important— with this going on. and the important thing is to follow aura,— important thing is to follow advice, which— important thing is to follow advice, which is— important thing is to follow advice, which is to treat the vvnoie — advice, which is to treat the vvnoie tning— advice, which is to treat the whole thing with extreme caution . so— whole thing with extreme caution . so vnat— whole thing with extreme caution . so vnat you-re— whole thing with extreme caution . so what you're doing is not permanent— . so what you're doing is not permanent .— . so what you're doing is not permanent . you're starting with permanent. you're starting with taking— permanent. you're starting with tatking tnerapy— permanent. you're starting with tatking tnerapy .— permanent. you're starting with talking therapy . you might move talking therapy. you might move on to— talking therapy. you might move on to puberty— talking therapy. you might move on to puberty blockers as maybe aiter— on to puberty blockers as maybe aiter tnat— on to puberty blockers as maybe aiter tnat it— on to puberty blockers as maybe after that it would _ on to puberty blockers as maybe after that it would be opposition— after that it would be opposition sex hormones . but opposition sex hormones. but surgery— opposition sex hormones. but surgery is— opposition sex hormones. but surgery is a— opposition sex hormones. but surgery is a tong— opposition sex hormones. but surgery is a long way down the tine— surgery is a long way down the

tine . — surgery is a long way down the tine . year.— surgery is a long way down the line . yeah, well,— surgery is a long way down the line . yeah, well, i— surgery is a long way down the line . “iii?" line. yeah, well, i think puberty blockers is where you lost me, nigel. but your reaction and the position of ukip on this? neil hamilton war,— ukip on this? neil hamilton war, ukir— ukip on this? neil hamilton well, ukip actually- 5c neil hamilton well, ukip actually had the tint— well, ukip actually had the first—member. well, ukip actually had thei first—member of well, ukip actually had the- first_member of the first transgender member of the iuropean— first transgender member of the european parliament elected in zero.— european parliament elected in zero. so— european parliament elected in zero. so vve— european parliament elected in zero. so we to— european parliament elected in 2010. so we do have some form in tnis— 2010. so we do have some form in tnis matter— 2010. so we do have some form in tnis natter .— 2010. so we do have some form in this matter . but— 2010. so we do have some form in this matter. but nigel just said tnat— this matter. but nigel just said tnat tnis— this matter. but nigel just said tnat tnis is— this matter. but nigel just said that this is an— this matter. but nigel just said that this is an issue which divides— that this is an issue which divides the— that this is an issue which divides the country . but i that this is an issue which divides the country. but i mean, tnat-s— divides the country. but i mean, was rust— divides the country. but i mean, that's just absolute nonsense . that's just absolute nonsense. ine— that's just absolute nonsense. ine numeri— that's just absolute nonsense. the number of— that's just absolute nonsense. the number of people who are iaeet— the number of people who are iaeet witn— the number of people who are faced with problems of gender tyspnoria— faced with problems of gender tyspnoria is— faced with problems of gender dysphoria is vanishingly small and dysphoria is vanishingly small ant tne— dysphoria is vanishingly small and the overwhelming majority of peopie— and the overwhelming majority of peopteltnis— and the overwhelming majority of people-this country— and the overwhelming majority of people this country simply people of this country simply can-t— people of this country simply can't understand— people of this country simply can't understand this can't understand how this argument— can't understand how this argument can— can't understand how this argument can have achieved the poiene— argument can have achieved the prominence that— argument can have achieved the prominence that it— argument can have achieved the prominence that it has and how a common sense seems to have gone out oi— common sense seems to have gone out oi tne— common sense seems to have gone out oi tne vvintovv— common sense seems to have gone out of the window and how it is tnat— out of the window and how it is tnat sonetoty— out of the window and how it is that somebody can— out of the window and how it is that somebody can be an etueation— that somebody can be an education minister in a conservative- education minister in a conservative government and can put iorvvart— conservative government and can put forward such— conservative government and can put forward such a— conservative government and can put forward such a plainly ridiculous— put forward such a plainly ridiculous argument for children vio— ridiculous argument for children vvno are— ridiculous argument for children vvno not— ridiculous argument for children who are not fully— ridiculous argument for children who are not fully formed emotionally— who are not fully formed emotionally and still have a lot of emotionally and still have a lot oi tearning— emotionally and still have a lot oi tearning to— emotionally and still have a lot of learning to do— emotionally and still have a lot of learning to do and going tnrougn— of learning to do and going through adolescence and puberty, as in— through adolescence and puberty, as i'm sure we can— through adolescence and puberty, as i'm sure we can all remember, poses— as i'm sure we can all remember, poses protiens— as i'm sure we can all remember, poses problems from time to

time. — poses problems from time to time. ant— poses problems from time to time. ant yes— poses problems from time to time. and yes, of— poses problems from time to time. and yes, of course, parents— time. and yes, of course, parents need— time. and yes, of course, parents need to be loving and understanding— parents need to be loving and understanding of— parents need to be loving and understanding of what's going tnrougn— understanding of what's going tnrougn tneir— understanding of what's going through their children's minds. but through their children's minds. put its— through their children's minds. put its not— through their children's minds. but it's not for— through their children's minds. but it's not for teachers and senoots— but it's not for teachers and senoois .— but it's not for teachers and senoois , in— but it's not for teachers and schools , in my— but it's not for teachers and schools , in my opinion, to schools, in my opinion, to impose— schools, in my opinion, to impose certain- schools, in my opinion, to impose certain norms of wokery upon— impose certain norms of wokery upon on— impose certain norms of wokery upon on tne— impose certain norms of wokery upon on the vast— impose certain norms of wokery upon on the vast majority of peopie— upon on the vast majority of peopie vvno — upon on the vast majority of people who don't want it. the iories— people who don't want it. the iories in— people who don't want it. the iories in tie— people who don't want it. the tories in the grip— people who don't want it. the tories in the grip of- people who don't want it. the tories in the grip of a woke civil war. your reaction? what do you think about kids changing gender at school? as long as mum and dad don't mind or dad and dad or mum and mum, who knows ? dad or mum and mum, who knows? dinosaur and dinosaur market gbnews.com at 1030 we've got the papers at 1030 sharp with full pundh papers at 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction . but next seven pundit reaction. but next seven years on from brexit have remainers been proved wrong? i've got the statistics that suggests exactly that will react with ann widdecombe . see you

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to transition at school. as long as mum and dad don't- c if." as long as mum and dad don't mind. c c?" as long as mum and dad don't mind. and etitor— as mum and dad don't mind. and etitor says— as mum and dad don't mind. and editor says mark— as mum and dad don't mind. and editor says mark gillian needs to transition— editor says mark gillian needs to transition to— editor says mark gillian needs to transition to another party astr— to transition to another party astit .— to transition to another party astit . iisa — to transition to another party asap . lisa says— to transition to another party asap . lisa says if gillian asap. lisa says if gillian keegan— asap. lisa says if gillian keegan is— asap. lisa says if gillian keegan is really going to go up tnis— keegan is really going to go up this deluded— keegan is really going to go up this deluded path, she needs sacking— this deluded path, she needs saeking .— this deluded path, she needs sacking . audrey— this deluded path, she needs sacking . audrey says, hey sacking. audrey says, hey teaenen— sacking. audrey says, hey teacher, leave _ sacking. audrey says, hey teacher, leave our kids alone . teacher, leave our kids alone. senten— teacher, leave our kids alone. gender agenda— teacher, leave our kids alone. gender agenda in— teacher, leave our kids alone. gender agenda in schools is totaiiy— gender agenda in schools is totally abhorrent and dangerous. senoot— totally abhorrent and dangerous. senooi is— totally abhorrent and dangerous. senooi is a— totally abhorrent and dangerous. school is a place— totally abhorrent and dangerous. school is a place of learning, not— school is a place of learning, not sex— school is a place of learning, not sex orientation . ian hi. not sex orientation. ian hi. tiark— not sex orientation. ian hi. tiark says— not sex orientation. ian hi. mark says mark, our second taugnten— mark says mark, our second taugnten is— mark says mark, our second daughter, is home schooled for the daughter, is home schooled for tne tast— daughter, is home schooled for the last three— daughter, is home schooled for the last three years. best thing we tit.— the last three years. best thing we ever did. thanks for being nonest— we ever did. thanks for being nonest ant— we ever did. thanks for being honest and trying to wake people up, honest and trying to wake people up. keep— honest and trying to wake people up. keep up— honest and trying to wake people up. keep up tne— honest and trying to wake people up, keep up the good work. well, took,— up, keep up the good work. well, took, trop— up, keep up the good work. well, took, trop ne— up, keep up the good work. well, took. trop me a— up, keep up the good work. well, look, drop me a note if you tisagree— look, drop me a note if you disagree with— look, drop me a note if you disagree with what have said. disagree with what i have said. ant— disagree with what i have said. andlyou— disagree with what i have said. andlyou take— disagree with what i have said. andlyou take the— disagree with what i have said. and you take the view that and if you take the view that keegan— and if you take the view that keeganltoing— and if you take the view that keegan doing the right thing. keegan is doing the right thing. tiark— keegan is doing the right thing. tiark ti— keegan is doing the right thing. tiark on news— keegan is doing the right thing. mark gb news .com. it's time now for mark gb news .com. it's time now ior tne— mark gb news .com. it's time now for the newsmaker— mark gb news .com. it's time now for the newsmaker in— mark gb news .com. it's time now for the newsmaker in which we speak— for the newsmaker in which we speak to— for the newsmaker in which we speak to a— for the newsmaker in which we speak to a fearless commentator on—oi— speak to a fearless commentator on—oi tne- speak to a fearless commentator on—oi tne tayl on the big stories of the day. ant— on the big stories of the day. ant tonigtt— on the big stories of the day. and tonight, following a flurry of and tonight, following a flurry oi trate— and tonight, following a flurry of trade deals— and tonight, following a flurry of trade deals with fast growing economies around— of trade deals with fast growing economies around the world and witn— economies around the world and vii tne— economies around the world and vii tne uk— economies around the world and with the uk avoiding recession as tne— with the uk avoiding recession as the eurozone— with the uk avoiding recession as the eurozone and germany are piunget— as the eurozone and germany are ptunget into— as the eurozone and germany are ptunget into one— as the eurozone and germany are plunged into one with exports to

the plunged into one with exports to tie tu— plunged into one with exports to tie it at— plunged into one with exports to tie it at a— plunged into one with exports to the eu at a record— plunged into one with exports to the eu at a record high and with ionton-s— the eu at a record high and with london's position— the eu at a record high and with london's position as the iuropean— london's position as the european, if— london's position as the european, if not world financial capitat— european, if not world financial eapitai unter— european, if not world financial capital under contested and with the capital under contested and with tie uk— capital under contested and with the uk outpacing— capital under contested and with the uk outpacing countries like rane— the uk outpacing countries like rane ant— the uk outpacing countries like france and germany for inward investment— france and germany for inward investment .— france and germany for inward investment , have— france and germany for inward investment , have remainers been investment, have remainers been provet— investment, have remainers been proved categorically wrong about irexiti— proved categorically wrong about irexiti iet-s— proved categorically wrong about brexit? let's get— proved categorically wrong about brexit? let's get the views of tonignt-s— brexit? let's get the views of tonight's newsmaker, former government— tonight's newsmaker, former government minister, best setting— government minister, best selling author— government minister, best selling author and television personatity— selling author and television personality ann— selling author and television personality ann widdecombe, and personality aim widdecombe, and i personality ann widdecombe, and i know— personality ann widdecombe, and i know brexit— personality ann widdecombe, and i know brexit is— personality ann widdecombe, and i know brexit is not— personality ann widdecombe, and i know brexit is not perfect , i know brexit is not perfect, tut— i know brexit is not perfect, put it— i know brexit is not perfect, but it hasn't— i know brexit is not perfect, but it hasn't been the calamity tnat— but it hasn't been the calamity tnat vas— but it hasn't been the calamity that was predicted . cit" c that was predicted. oh, it was never going to be the collapse motty that was predicted. i mean, the remain has had what they called or we call at any rate project fear, which was deliberately to alarm people to suggest that it couldn't work . suggest that it couldn't work. and then ever since we've had brexit, you know, if it rains, people blame brexit and gradually that narrative is taking hold and it needs to be repulsed. i mean , you've named repulsed. i mean, you've named some things, but when you look at one of those deals that you mentioned, the trans pacific

alliance , i mean, for heaven's alliance, i mean, for heaven's sake, that's worth 15% of the global economy. now, that's big stuff. and as that progresses, we're really going to see a massive difference. we haven't, of course, had to pay the sub to the eu. we have put even more than what we were paying annually into the nhs. so when we're told by the remain faction that we lied , we did not. and of that we lied, we did not. and of course nobody needs convincing that we were way ahead of the curve on the vaccines delivery andindeed curve on the vaccines delivery and indeed the eu quite deliberately tried to frustrate us even at one point trying to close the irish border without even asking the you know, and so i think we can see fairly clearly that we've benefited from brexit, but and this is a big but mark, i know you think that , you know, we all want that, you know, we all want a perfect brexit. there's no such thing as a perfect anything, but there is so much we could do with brexit. could have already

done. still could do if we took full advantage of it and dared to diverge from europe rather than converge . well, indeed, we than converge. well, indeed, we know— than converge. well, indeed, we know tnat— than converge. well, indeed, we know that rishi _ than converge. well, indeed, we know that rishi sunak.- si“ c192 well, indeed, we know that rishi sunak. although a irexiteer— know that rishi sunak. although a brexiteer doesn't seem to be partieutariy— a brexiteer doesn't seem to be particularly red— a brexiteer doesn't seem to be particularly red blooded in that tepartnent— particularly red blooded in that tepartnent, ne— particularly red blooded in that department, he seems a little soot— department, he seems a little cook on— department, he seems a little cool on brexit,_ department, he seems a little cool on brexit, but not as cool as keir— cool on brexit, but not as cool as keir starmer— cool on brexit, but not as cool as keir starmer would be. what vouit— as keir starmer would be. what voutt nappen— as keir starmer would be. what would happen to— as keir starmer would be. what would happen to brexit and our reiationsnip— would happen to brexit and our relationship with— would happen to brexit and our relationship with brussels in the relationship with brussels in tne event— relationship with brussels in tne event oi— relationship with brussels in the event of a— relationship with brussels in the event of a labour government? an well, first of all,— government? an well, first of up, kett— government? an well, first of all, keir starmer— government? an well, first of all, keir starmer has said that he all, keir starmer has said that ne wants— all, keir starmer has said that ne wants to— all, keir starmer has said that he wants to renegotiate with iurope, — he wants to renegotiate with um... not— he wants to renegotiate with europe, not with— he wants to renegotiate with europe, not with a view to full entry. — europe, not with a view to full entry. inatt— europe, not with a view to full entry. that's cloud- europe, not with a view to full entry. that's cloud cuckoo land quite honestly, but with a view to closer convergence , closer to closer convergence, closer alignment, working with them, accepting their law, etcetera. now he has said that so you know, when the brexiteers oppose that and people say, oh, you know, get over brexit, it's past history, we say, hang on, you get a labour government, you're going to get another renegotiation. we're going to have brexit all over all the

arguments brexit again. and arguments over brexit again. and yes , i mean you're quite right, yes, i mean you're quite right, it would be a horrible proposition , but we are not proposition, but we are not going to re—enter. i mean, that is serious cloud cuckoo territory . we'd have to join the territory. we'd have to join the euro , we'd have to pay an euro, we'd have to pay an enormous entrance fee. it would be back to being a net contributor and putting in more than we take out . and we simply than we take out. and we simply i don't believe the country wants to go through that all over again. but having come out in name rahv than in fact we can make it a lot more fact . the make it a lot more fact. the problem is the unholy mess that successive conservative prime minister has made of northern ireland and we're still bound by an awful lot of eu law because northern ireland is still effective in the single market and it was never necessary to do it that way. that is something which we're going to have to face up to. you know, we like to think, well, you know, it's

okay, it'll all go quiet and we'll get used to it. no we're going to have to face up to that already. the dup won't powershare. that already. the dup won't powershare . that is a real powershare. that is a real vvorry. — powershare. that is a real vvorry. ant— powershare. that is a real vvorry. ant oi— ”ii: that is a real worry. and of course that was a ret— worry. and of course that was a ret tine— worry. and of course that was a ret tine iot— worry. and of course that was a red line for me— worry. and of course that was a red line for me to— worry. and of course that was a red line for me to see government- red line for me to see government back in northern ireiant— government back in northern ireiant ant— government back in northern ireland and what about those remainers though? the likes of tiienaet— remainers though? the likes of michael heseltine, your former eoiieague— michael heseltine, your former eoiieague in— michael heseltine, your former colleague in the— michael heseltine, your former colleague in the conservative party— colleague in the conservative party, alastair— colleague in the conservative party, alastair campbell, borderline _ party, alastair campbell, borderline war criminal, treating— borderline war criminal, bleating about brexit, blaming everytning— bleating about brexit, blaming everytning iot— bleating about brexit, blaming everything for brexit. will tnese— everything for brexit. will these remainers ever concede teieat— these remainers ever concede teieat i— these remainers ever concede teieat i un— these remainers ever concede defeat ? uh, probably not for defeat? uh, probably not for a tong— defeat? uh, probably not for a tong tine.— defeat? uh, probably not for a tong tine. — defeat? uh, probably not for a long time. eventually, you know, defeat will just become a fact of life and they're they're going to have to accept it. but not for a long time. but interestingly, we i was at a dinner over the weekend which was michael was being addressed by michael heseltine in which although it wasn't relevant, indeed wasn't remotely relevant, indeed wasn't remotely relevant, indeed was probably against the conventions he made, he ended up with a peroration about how we would one day have to rejoin the eu . i was sitting next to

eu. i was sitting next to somebody who voted remain, who served in the european parliament, who's always been a remainer, and he said to me that once the decision was taken, he became a brexiteer and because of what's gone on ever since he is now his words a rampant brexiteer and just roared with laughter and said, you're joking? and he said, no, i'm not. it's the zeal of the converted. and widdecombe, vonteriui— converted. and widdecombe, wonderful to _ converted. and widdecombe, wonderful to have— f: and widdecombe, wonderful to have you back on the wonderful to have you back on tne snovv. — wonderful to have you back on tne snow. is— wonderful to have you back on the show. it's always the nigntignt— the show. it's always the nigntignt oi— the show. it's always the highlight of the week, our encounters. _ highlight of the week, our encounters. and we'll see you in aeks— encounters. and we'll see you in avveek-s-uave— encounters. and we'll see you in a week's- have l great - a week's time. have a great vveekent. — a week's time. have a great weekend. -thank- a week's time. have a great weekend. -thank and weekend. well, thank you. and you. you. ann widdecombe you. and you. ann widdecombe tiere— you. and you. ann widdecombe there-government- there. former government mug...— there. former government. minister,_author there. former government- minister,_author , minister, best selling author, teievision— minister, best selling author, television personality and supporter— television personality and supporter oi— television personality and supporter of reform uk , led by supporter of reform uk, led by itienart— supporter of reform uk, led by itienart itse— supporter of reform uk, led by richard tice and— supporter of reform uk, led by richard tice and has left the conservative— richard tice and has left the conservative party because she toesn-t— conservative party because she toesn-t tnink— conservative party because she doesn't think that— conservative party because she doesn't think that they've done a goot— doesn't think that they've done a goot iot — doesn't think that they've done a goot rot witn— doesn't think that they've done a good job with brexit. what is your— a good job with brexit. what is your vie— a good job with brexit. what is your view market— a good job with brexit. what is your view market gb news.com i tnink— your view market gb news.com i tnink veve— your view market gb news.com i tnink got— your view market gb news.com i think we've got the— your view market gb news.com i think we've got the results of text— think we've got the results of text poti. — think we've got the results of our text poll. we've been asking you in— our text poll. we've been asking you in an— our text poll. we've been asking you in an exclusive— our text poll. we've been asking you in an exclusive mark dolan ionignt— you in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's— you in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's whether or tonight people's poll whether or not seven years—

tonight people's poll whether or not seven years on— tonight people's poll whether or not seven years on from the vote ant— not seven years on from the vote ant witn— not seven years on from the vote ant vvitn tne — not seven years on from the vote and with the eurozone in recession have- and with the eurozone in recession have remained has been provet— recession have remained has been provet wrong— recession have remained has been proved wrong about— recession have remained has been proved wrong about brexit at us say esote— proved wrong about brexit at us say store no— proved wrong about brexit at us say osen no say— proved wrong about brexit at us say 65.6% no say 34.4. there you go. anotner— say 65.6% no say 34.4. there you go. anotner vin— say 65.6% no say 34.4. there you go. another win for— say 65.6% no say 34.4. there you go. another win for the brexiteers _ go. another win for the brexiteers .— go. another win for the brexiteers . and i say that as brexiteers. and i say that as a iteairer— brexiteers. and i say that as a remainer. who— brexiteers. and i say that as a remainer. who knew what's my storyt— remainer. who knew what's my storyi ine— remainer. who knew what's my story? the british— remainer. who knew what's my story? the british people voted to ieave — story? the british people voted to ieave i— story? the british people voted to leave. i accepted the result ant— to leave. i accepted the result ant i— to leave. i accepted the result and i believe— to leave. i accepted the result and i believe it— to leave. i accepted the result and i believe it will be a roaring— and i believe it will be a roaring success. but what's your viewi— roaring success. but what's your vievi margaret— roaring success. but what's your view? margaret gb— roaring success. but what's your view? margaret gb news rt.com. vie-ve— view? margaret gb news rt.com. vie-ve got— view? margaret gb news rt.com. vie-ve got tne— view? margaret gb news rt.com. we've got the papers

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will allow the education secretary do what she's secretary to do what she's saying. — secretary to do what she's saying. .you- secretary to do what she's saying. you know that, says saying. and you know that, says sneiia. — saying. and you know that, says sneiia. te— saying. and you know that, says sneiia. he is— saying. and you know that, says sheila. he is of— saying. and you know that, says sheila. he is of indian neritage.— sheila. he is of indian heritage. totally against his teiieis— heritage. totally against his beliefs. she— heritage. totally against his beliefs. she will probably be tnrovn— beliefs. she will probably be tnrovvn out— beliefs. she will probably be thrown out just— beliefs. she will probably be thrown out just another witch nunt— thrown out just another witch nunt against— thrown out just another witch hunt against the— thrown out just another witch hunt against the tories. shame on you— hunt against the tories. shame on you. says— hunt against the tories. shame on you, says sheila. sheila tnank— on you, says sheila. sheila tnank you— on you, says sheila. sheila thank you for— on you, says sheila. sheila thank you for sharing your strong— thank you for sharing your strong views.— thank you for sharing your strong views. this programme is

all strong views. this programme is ati aiout— strong views. this programme is all about opinions. _ strong views. this programme is all about opinions. how about tnis— all about opinions. how about tnis iron — all about opinions. how about this from alexandra ? and this is this from alexandra? and this is in regarts— this from alexandra? and this is in regarts to— this from alexandra? and this is in regarts to my— this from alexandra? and this is in regards to my big opinion nonoiogue— in regards to my big opinion monologue. does britain live teyont— monologue. does britain live teyont its— monologue. does britain live beyond its means ? and alexander beyond its means? and alexander says— beyond its means? and alexander says yup,— beyond its means? and alexander says yup, ii— beyond its means? and alexander says mark it we— beyond its means? and alexander says mark, if we cut— beyond its means? and alexander says mark, if we cut benefits, get— says mark, if we cut benefits, get peopie— says mark, if we cut benefits, get peopie oii— says mark, if we cut benefits, get people off their fat backsides _ get people off their fat backsides and make them work , backsides and make them work, tatter— backsides and make them work, rate tnan— backsides and make them work, rather than let— backsides and make them work, rather than let them lay about all rather than let them lay about ati tay— rather than let them lay about ati tay .— rather than let them lay about ati tay , vve— rather than let them lay about all day , we might make some all day, we might make some progress— all day, we might make some progress .— all day, we might make some progress . took,— all day, we might make some progress . look, i'll get to more progress. look, i'll get to more of progress. look, i'll get to more oi your— progress. look, i'll get to more of your emails— progress. look, i'll get to more of your emails shortly. mark at gb of your emails shortly. mark at on news— of your emails shortly. mark at on news sonn— of your emails shortly. mark at gb news .com. but first this. of your emails shortly. mark at gb news .com. but first this . we gb news .com. but first this. we nave— gb news .com. but first this. we have tomorrow's— gb news .com. but first this. we have tomorrow's paid front pages as aivays— have tomorrow's paid front pages as aivays on— have tomorrow's paid front pages as aivays on a— have tomorrow's paid front pages as always on a sunday. it's at rose.— as always on a sunday. it's at rose. ant— as always on a sunday. it's at 1030. and let's— as always on a sunday. it's at 1030. and let's start with the tuartian— 1030. and let's start with the guardian and— 1030. and let's start with the guardian and they lead with the iotiovving— guardian and they lead with the ioiioving. vve— guardian and they lead with the following. we nana uprising eveasi— following. we nana uprising reveals cracks— following. we nana uprising reveals cracks in putin's autnority— reveals cracks in putin's authority says- reveals cracks in putin's authority says us queen was asket— authority says us queen was asket to— authority says us queen was asked to veto— authority says us queen was asked to veto lebedev peerage . asked to veto lebedev peerage. government— asked to veto lebedev peerage. government officials asked if the government officials asked if tne tate— government officials asked if the late queen— government officials asked if the late queen would block ivgeny— the late queen would block evgeny lebedev— the late queen would block evgeny lebedev , who is a top evgeny lebedev, who is a top netia— evgeny lebedev, who is a top media magnate— evgeny lebedev, who is a top media magnate ,_ evgeny lebedev, who is a top media magnate , a peerage because media magnate, a peerage because of media magnate, a peerage because oi ne— media magnate, a peerage because of concerns he could— media magnate, a peerage because of concerns he could be a nationai— of concerns he could be a national security risk over his iatner-s— national security risk over his father's links— national security risk over his father's links to _ national security risk over his father's links to putin's regime . tn—

father's links to putin's regime . in in— father's links to putin's regime . i'm in dependence. pm accused of . i'm in dependence. pm accused oi titty— . i'm in dependence. pm accused oi titty tricks— . i'm in dependence. pm accused of dirty tricks to— . i'm in dependence. pm accused of dirty tricks to win— . i'm in dependence. pm accused of dirty tricks to win votes in an ugiy— of dirty tricks to win votes in an ugly culture— of dirty tricks to win votes in an ugly culture war. a labour frontbencher_ an ugly culture war. a labour frontbencher has— an ugly culture war. a labour frontbencher has triggered a iurious— frontbencher has triggered a iurious rov— frontbencher has triggered a furious row after he accused itisni— furious row after he accused itisni sunak— furious row after he accused rishi sunak of— furious row after he accused rishi sunak of weaponising trans in— rishi sunak of weaponising trans in a— rishi sunak of weaponising trans issues in a cynical— rishi sunak of weaponising trans issues in a cynical attempt to win— issues in a cynical attempt to win votes— issues in a cynical attempt to win votes .— issues in a cynical attempt to win votes . wes— issues in a cynical attempt to win votes . wes streeting the win votes. wes streeting the snatov— win votes. wes streeting the shadow health— win votes. wes streeting the shadow health secretary said the itine— shadow health secretary said the prime minister— shadow health secretary said the prime minister was unfairly using— prime minister was unfairly using eguatity— prime minister was unfairly using equality arguments in a euiture— using equality arguments in a eutture — using equality arguments in a culture war. but— using equality arguments in a culture war. but a senior tory hit culture war. but a senior tory nit task— culture war. but a senior tory nit task ant— culture war. but a senior tory hit back and said— culture war. but a senior tory hit back and said that mr sunak sinpiy— hit back and said that mr sunak was simply trying— hit back and said that mr sunak was simply trying to ensure the protection— was simply trying to ensure the protection oi— was simply trying to ensure the protection of children . last protection of children. last week,— protection of children. last week, leaked— protection of children. last week, leaked footage showed the pm week, leaked footage showed the rtt making— week, leaked footage showed the pm making transphobic jokes and number— pm making transphobic jokes and number to,— pm making transphobic jokes and number 10, wading into a bizarre row number 10, wading into a bizarre aiout— number 10, wading into a bizarre row about identity— number 10, wading into a bizarre row about identity politics in senooi— row about identity politics in senooi .— row about identity politics in senooi . as— row about identity politics in school . as the _ row about identity politics in school . as the i— row about identity politics in school . as the i newspaper , school. as the i newspaper, putin-s— school. as the i newspaper, putin's silent— school. as the i newspaper, putin's silent on mutiny that rocket— putin's silent on mutiny that roeket tne— putin's silent on mutiny that rocked the kremlin, reasons to be rocked the kremlin, reasons to te eieeriut— rocked the kremlin, reasons to be cheerful, say— rocked the kremlin, reasons to be cheerful, say the metro .couk— be cheerful, say the metro .co.uk wagner— be cheerful, say the metro .co.uk wagner coup forces take out it— .co.uk wagner coup forces take out 39 russian— .co.uk wagner coup forces take out 39 russian air— .co.uk wagner coup forces take out 39 russian air crew ukraine says— out 39 russian air crew ukraine says its— out 39 russian air crew ukraine says is making— out 39 russian air crew ukraine says it's making progress in all tireetions— says it's making progress in all directions and— says it's making progress in all directions and 32— says it's making progress in all directions and 32 degree rspca snake— directions and 32 degree rspca snake aiert— directions and 32 degree rspca snake alert says— directions and 32 degree rspca snake alert says the daily star . some— snake alert says the daily star . sone iike— snake alert says the daily star . some like it— snake alert says the daily star . some like it hot— snake alert says the daily star . some like it hot . yes, indeed. . some like it hot. yes, indeed. tet— . some like it hot. yes, indeed. iet ne— . some like it hot. yes, indeed. iet ne tekt— . some like it hot. yes, indeed. let me tell you— . some like it hot. yes, indeed. let me tell you that feeling

rop— let me tell you that feeling not, not,— let me tell you that feeling hot, hot, hot.— let me tell you that feeling hot, hot, hot. say the star iiery— hot, hot, hot. say the star fiery heatwaves- hot, hot, hot. say the star fiery heatwaves are on the way vitn— fiery heatwaves are on the way with concerns— fiery heatwaves are on the way with concerns about wildlife, ineiuting— with concerns about wildlife, including some— with concerns about wildlife, including some of our snakes. inose— including some of our snakes. inose are— including some of our snakes. inose your— including some of our snakes. those are your front pages . those are your front pages. tet-s— those are your front pages. iet-s get— those are your front pages. let's get full— those are your front pages. let's get full pundit reaction iron — let's get full pundit reaction now from former— let's get full pundit reaction now from former mep and poiitieai— now from former mep and political commentator annunziata itees—ttogg— political commentator annunziata itees—taogg .— political commentator annunziata itees—tioggtne— political commentator annunziata rees—mogg , the leader of ukip. rees—mogg, the leader of ukip. neit— rees—mogg, the leader of ukip. neil hamilton,— rees—mogg, the leader of ukip. neil hamilton, and gb news senior political— neil hamilton, and gb news senior political commentator tiger— senior political commentator uiget ueison.— senior political commentator nigel nelson. lots of stories to sink— nigel nelson. lots of stories to sink our— nigel nelson. lots of stories to sink our teeth— nigel nelson. lots of stories to sink our teeth into. let's gun,— sink our teeth into. let's start, shall— sink our teeth into. let's start, shall we? nigel nelson vitn— start, shall we? nigel nelson vvitn putin-s— start, shall we? nigel nelson with putin's silence on mutiny tnat— with putin's silence on mutiny tnat rocket— with putin's silence on mutiny that rocked the— with putin's silence on mutiny that rocked the kremlin , dare we that rocked the kremlin, dare we trean — that rocked the kremlin, dare we trean tnat— that rocked the kremlin, dare we dream that both— that rocked the kremlin, dare we dream that both the war and his tenue— dream that both the war and his tenue in— dream that both the war and his tenue in tne— dream that both the war and his tenure in the kremlin is coming to an— tenure in the kremlin is coming to an enti— tenure in the kremlin is coming to an enti vve— tenure in the kremlin is coming to an end? we can— tenure in the kremlin is coming to an end? we can dream, but i'm not sue— to an end? we can dream, but i'm not it— to an end? we can dream, but i'm not it is— to an end? we can dream, but i'm not sure it is beginning of the ent.— not sure it is beginning of the ent. tatter— not sure it is beginning of the end. rather than— not sure it is beginning of the end. rather than the end of the beginning. — end. rather than the end of the beginning. well,— end. rather than the end of the beginning. �*ft�*ticc ”iii; beginning. well, i'm not sure it's going to be even that. i mean, as things were progressing yestertay— mean, as things were progressing yestertay ant— mean, as things were progressing yestertay ant it— mean, as things were progressing yesterday and it was it was pretty— yesterday and it was it was pretty tast— yesterday and it was it was pretty fast moving, it looked iike— pretty fast moving, it looked iike tnat— pretty fast moving, it looked like that that— pretty fast moving, it looked like that that putin might be toppiet— like that that putin might be toppiet. tut— like that that putin might be toppled, but not by the wagner

troup— toppled, but not by the wagner troup so— toppled, but not by the wagner troup so were— toppled, but not by the wagner group so we're now in even more eonpiieatet— group so we're now in even more complicated situation the day are..— complicated situation the day after, whereby _ complicated situation the day after, whereby they've gone off to ieiarus— after, whereby they've gone off to belarus and— after, whereby they've gone off to belarus and putin has dropped enarges— to belarus and putin has dropped enarges against— to belarus and putin has dropped charges against everybody . and i charges against everybody. and i tnink— charges against everybody. and i tnink tnat— charges against everybody. and i think that his— charges against everybody. and i think that his authority has teen— think that his authority has been damaged— think that his authority has been damaged by this. but it's far been damaged by this. but it's iar too— been damaged by this. but it's iar too eariy— been damaged by this. but it's far too early to— been damaged by this. but it's far too early to say that this viii— far too early to say that this viii te— far too early to say that this will be pushing— far too early to say that this will be pushing him out. far too early to say that this will be pushing him out . what do will be pushing him out. what do you nipp— will be pushing him out. what do you tninki — will be pushing him out. what do you tninki i— will be pushing him out. what do you think? i mean,— will be pushing him out. what do you think? i ct? you think? i mean, the optics of this aren't great for putin, are they, neil? no, because he's the great— they, neil? no, because he's the great itussian— t ti 3’ no, because he's the great russian strongman who iiket— great russian strongman who iiket to— great russian strongman who iiket to pose— great russian strongman who liked to pose having the liked to pose as having the overwhelming— liked to pose as having the overwhelming support of the entire— overwhelming support of the entire russian— overwhelming support of the entire russian people. and inteet— entire russian people. and indeed,-polls- entire russian people. and indeed, polls in russia indeed, opinion polls in russia snov— indeed, opinion polls in russia snov tnat— indeed, opinion polls in russia snov tnat ne— indeed, opinion polls in russia show that he gets about 80% approvat— show that he gets about 80% approvat-is— show that he gets about 80% approval,-is-sort. show that he gets about 80% approval, is sort of approval, which is the sort of iever— approval, which is the sort of iever-support— approval, which is the sort of level support that british level of support that british potitieians— level of support that british politicians could only dream of . tut,— politicians could only dream of . put, you— politicians could only dream of . but, you know,— politicians could only dream of . but, you know, he's an authoritarian— . but, you know, he's an authoritarian ,- . but, you know, he's an authoritarian , an it's a authoritarian, an it's a gangster— authoritarian, an it's a gangster regime . it's a fall out gangster regime. it's a fall out amongst— gangster regime. it's a fall out amongst thieves,— gangster regime. it's a fall out amongst thieves, basically. and putin— amongst thieves, basically. and rutin cones— amongst thieves, basically. and putin comes out— amongst thieves, basically. and putin comes out of it as the teater— putin comes out of it as the teater oi— putin comes out of it as the leader of the _ putin comes out of it as the leader of the moderate faction teeause— leader of the moderate faction teeause tir— leader of the moderate faction because mr prigozhin is not as rise— because mr prigozhin is not as as ne— because mr prigozhin is not as nice as he looks,— because mr prigozhin is not as nice as he looks, is he? he's a reai— nice as he looks, is he? he's a neat trutai— nice as he looks, is he? he's a real brutal monster of a man for vvnon — real brutal monster of a man for vvnon nunan— real brutal monster of a man for whom human life—

real brutal monster of a man for whom human life matters . not at whom human life matters. not at all, whom human life matters. not at up, exsept— whom human life matters. not at up, exsept to — whom human life matters. not at all, except to feather his nest ant— all, except to feather his nest ant asnieve— all, except to feather his nest and achieve his— all, except to feather his nest and achieve his authority and trutai— and achieve his authority and brutal objectives. so so i think it is— brutal objectives. so so i think it is a— brutal objectives. so so i think it is a srask— brutal objectives. so so i think it is a crack in— brutal objectives. so so i think it is a crack in in— brutal objectives. so so i think it is a crack in in the russian potitisai— it is a crack in in the russian political system— it is a crack in in the russian political system .— it is a crack in in the russian political system . putin is 70 political system. putin is 70 ant— political system. putin is 70 ant i— political system. putin is 70 ant i tnink— political system. putin is 70 and i think maybe he's been sent— and i think maybe he's been silent because— and i think maybe he's been silent because he's had so much iotox— silent because he's had so much iotox .— silent because he's had so much iotox , ne— silent because he's had so much botox , he can't— silent because he's had so much botox , he can't move his mouth. botox, he can't move his mouth. war,— botox, he can't move his mouth. war, it— botox, he can't move his mouth. war, it souit— botox, he can't move his mouth. well, it could be. _ botox, he can't move his mouth. well, it could be. i— botox, he can't move his mouth. well, it could be. i t: well, it could be. i mean, he'd have that in common with a few other famous people. not other famous people. but not normally. annunciate normally. politicians annunciate . this important for my . this is important for my viewers and listeners because as this war is causing energy pnces this war is causing energy prices to be so high, ukraine is the breadbasket of europe. so the breadbasket of europe. so the cost of grain has gone up. vegetable oil, it's really, really hurting brits as well. this war needs to end . it does. this war needs to end. it does. but i think we— this war needs to end. it does. but i think we need— this war needs to end. it does. but i think we need to- i : it: it does. but i think we need to be really sareiui— but i think we need to be really careful about— but i think we need to be really careful about what— but i think we need to be really careful about what we wish for, tnat— careful about what we wish for, tnat putin— careful about what we wish for, tnat run is— careful about what we wish for, that putin is an— careful about what we wish for, that putin is an undoubtedly terriite— that putin is an undoubtedly terrible man— that putin is an undoubtedly terrible man who is happy to do very— terrible man who is happy to do very avviui— terrible man who is happy to do very awful things— terrible man who is happy to do very awful things .— terrible man who is happy to do very awful things . but this is very awful things. but this is tne— very awful things. but this is tne tevii— very awful things. but this is the devil and— very awful things. but this is the devil and the deep blue sea tnat— the devil and the deep blue sea tnat vnen— the devil and the deep blue sea that when marching up towards taoso— that when marching up towards taoso nereiy— that when marching up towards

moscow merely yesterday irigoznin— moscow merely yesterday prigozhin was— moscow merely yesterday prigozhin was reported heartedly taking— prigozhin was reported heartedly taking nuclear— prigozhin was reported heartedly taking nuclear weapons iastories— taking nuclear weapons factories. and i think we've got to te— factories. and i think we've got to is very,— factories. and i think we've got to be very. very— factories. and i think we've got to be very, very careful that itussia— to be very, very careful that russia politics— to be very, very careful that russia politics is- to be very, very careful that russia politics is a murky tusiness— russia politics is a murky business. the— russia politics is a murky business. the nicest way to put it. ant— business. the nicest way to put it. ant any— business. the nicest way to put it. ant any oi— business. the nicest way to put it. and any of these people are tnan— it. and any of these people are more than capable— it. and any of these people are more than capable of making even tesisions. — more than capable of making even worse decisions. most certainly in tne— worse decisions. most certainly in the independent annunciator pm in the independent annunciator pg ssuset— in the independent annunciator pm accused of— in the independent annunciator pm accused of dirty tricks to win— pm accused of dirty tricks to win votes— pm accused of dirty tricks to win votes in— pm accused of dirty tricks to win votes in ugly— pm accused of dirty tricks to win votes in ugly culture war iatour— win votes in ugly culture war labour frontbencher a guy who i do labour frontbencher a guy who i to tnink— labour frontbencher a guy who i to tnink is— labour frontbencher a guy who i to tnink is a— labour frontbencher a guy who i do think is a talented politician— do think is a talented politician ,- do think is a talented politician , wes streeting, the politician, wes streeting, the snatov— politician, wes streeting, the shadow health— politician, wes streeting, the shadow health secretary , has shadow health secretary, has triggeret— shadow health secretary, has triggeret a— shadow health secretary, has triggered a furious row as he stains— triggered a furious row as he stains tne— triggered a furious row as he claims the leaked video of sunak making— claims the leaked video of sunak making transphobic jokes shows nes— making transphobic jokes shows ne-s using— making transphobic jokes shows ne-s using tne— making transphobic jokes shows he's using the lgbtq+ equality issue— he's using the lgbtq+ equality issue as a wedge— he's using the lgbtq+ equality issue as a wedge issue , that issue as a wedge issue, that nes— issue as a wedge issue, that ne-s going— issue as a wedge issue, that ne-s going to— issue as a wedge issue, that ne-s going to try— issue as a wedge issue, that he's going to try to win votes iron— he's going to try to win votes iron tnis. — he's going to try to win votes from this. what— he's going to try to win votes from this. what do- he's going to try to win votes from this. �*ft�*itic titit he's going to try to win votes from this. titit isc from this. what do you think? well, i from this. what do you think? prep, i nope— from this. what do you think? well, i hope that— from this. what do you think? well, i hope that those- from this. titit isc well, i hope that those of us vvno— well, i hope that those of us vvno tnink— well, i hope that those of us who think that— well, i hope that those of us who think that women are women and who think that women are women ant snouit— who think that women are women and should have— who think that women are women and should have the rights of being— and should have the rights of being a— and should have the rights of being a woman— and should have the rights of being a woman are not pawns in tnis— being a woman are not pawns in tnis tut— being a woman are not pawns in

tnis tut nave— being a woman are not pawns in this, but have our— being a woman are not pawns in this, but have our voices tistenet— this, but have our voices listened to— this, but have our voices listened to and clearly labour are listened to and clearly labour not— listened to and clearly labour not going— listened to and clearly labour are not going to— listened to and clearly labour are not going to listen to a singie— are not going to listen to a singte vort— are not going to listen to a single word. we— are not going to listen to a single word. we have to say that the single word. we have to say that tne pnotia— single word. we have to say that the phobia label— single word. we have to say that the phobia label is— single word. we have to say that the phobia label is thrown aount— the phobia label is thrown around, left,— the phobia label is thrown around, left, right and centre. tut— around, left, right and centre. tut i— around, left, right and centre. tut i know— around, left, right and centre. but i know that— around, left, right and centre. but i know that this video was ptayet— but i know that this video was ptayet on— but i know that this video was ptayet on si— but i know that this video was played on gb news last week and it was— played on gb news last week and it a— played on gb news last week and it a tignt— played on gb news last week and it was a light hearted joke about— it was a light hearted joke about going— it was a light hearted joke about going back to the classroom _ about going back to the classroom to _ about going back to the classroom to learn biology . it classroom to learn biology. it vasn-t— classroom to learn biology. it wasn't an attack— classroom to learn biology. it wasn't an attack back on trans peopie— wasn't an attack back on trans pebble pebble-— wasn't an attack back on trans people people. and i think we've got to— people people. and i think we've got to ie— people people. and i think we've got to be very— people people. and i think we've got to be very careful about the iever— got to be very careful about the ievei oi— got to be very careful about the level of rhetoric— got to be very careful about the level of rhetoric this is getting— level of rhetoric this is getting to— level of rhetoric this is getting to that with the likes of getting to that with the likes oi rk— getting to that with the likes oi jk itovvting— getting to that with the likes of jk rowling demonised and the vort— of jk rowling demonised and the tort tert— of jk rowling demonised and the tort teri .— of jk rowling demonised and the word terf , which— of jk rowling demonised and the word terf , which does include word terf, which does include pnotis— word terf, which does include pnotis .— word terf, which does include pnotis . teing— word terf, which does include phobic , being thrown around, phobic, being thrown around, reit— phobic, being thrown around, pep, rignt— phobic, being thrown around, left, right and— phobic, being thrown around, left, right and centre. i think its— left, right and centre. i think its very— left, right and centre. i think it's very worrying what direction— it's very worrying what direction we're going in and i'm giat— direction we're going in and i'm giat tnat— direction we're going in and i'm glad that rishi _ direction we're going in and i'm glad that rishi sunak is iistening— glad that rishi sunak is listening to— glad that rishi sunak is listening to the majority of tits— listening to the majority of tits sountry— listening to the majority of this country who do have the common sense— this country who do have the common sense to— this country who do have the common sense to understand a bit common sense to understade a bit of common sense to understand a bit oi tiotogy— common sense to understand a bit oi tiotogy vitn— common sense to understand a bit oi tiotogy vvitn rk— common sense to understand a bit of biology with jk rowling, the harry— of biology with jk rowling, the harry rotten— of biology with jk rowling, the harry potter author receiving teatn — harry potter author receiving death threats— harry potter author receiving death threats for simply stating tiere— death threats for simply stating tnere — death threats for simply stating tnere two— death threats for simply stating there are two biological sexes, vvnisn— there are two biological sexes, vvnisnlnov— there are two biological sexes, which now controversial. �*ft�*ti

which is now controversial. we know— which is now controversial. we know tnat— which is now controversial. we know that tie— which is now controversial. we know that the tories- which is now controversial. we know that the tories are down and out in the polls, but is there a glimmer of hope for them at the next election if they seize this issue, the public discontent wokeism there is discontent with wokeism there is undoubtedly , and certainly in undoubtedly, and certainly in lincolnshire , i hear a lot of lincolnshire, i hear a lot of discontent with the level of woke going on and which is always blamed on the big metro centres. but but there are so many— centres. but but there are so many prottens— centres. but but there are so many problems in- cc: but but there are so many problems in this country ant— many problems in this country ant i— many problems in this country ant i reaiiy— many problems in this country and i really don't— many problems in this country and i really don't think that any— and i really don't think that any one— and i really don't think that any one issue— and i really don't think that any one issue is— and i really don't think that any one issue is going to be the game— any one issue is going to be the game snanger— any one issue is going to be the game changer for— any one issue is going to be the game changer for who wins the next— game changer for who wins the next election— game changer for who wins the next election .— game changer for who wins the next election . but— game changer for who wins the next election . but i think we next election. but i think we snouit— next election. but i think we should really— next election. but i think we should really tone down the rnetoris— should really tone down the rhetoric-we _ should really tone down the rhetoric-we can- should really tone down the rhetoric we can listen to rhetoric so we can listen to common-listen- rhetoric so we can listen toi common-listenlthe common sense, listen to the sniitren— common sense, listen to the children who— common sense, listen to the children who are— common sense, listen to the children who are this children who are in this emotional— children who are in this emotional turmoil and make sure tnat— emotional turmoil and make sure tnat iat— emotional turmoil and make sure that bad decisions— emotional turmoil and make sure that bad decisions aren't made tnat— that bad decisions aren't made tnat attest— that bad decisions aren't made that affect everyone's futures. visit. — that affect everyone's futures. visit. yes.— that affect everyone's futures. visit. yes. tiger.— that affect everyone's futures. well, yes, nigel, do— that affect everyone's futures. well, yes, nigel, do you- that affect everyone's futures. well, yes, nigel, do you think that rishi sunak can rescue his career and his premiership possibly win power for another five years if he if he goes if he goes to the public on the anti—woke ticket ? that will anti—woke ticket? that will work. no, it won't . i mean, you work. no, it won't. i mean, you tatking— work. no, it won't. i mean, you were talking to— no, it won't. i mean, you were talking to matthew goodwin

about— were talking to matthew goodwin about it— were talking to matthew goodwin about it a— were talking to matthew goodwin about it a pit— were talking to matthew goodwin about it a bit earlier. earlier ine— about it a bit earlier. earlier on. the important thing at the rnrneont— on. the important thing at the rnrneont .— on. the important thing at the rnrneont , tne— on. the important thing at the moment , the big— on. the important thing at the moment , the big thing that moment, the big thing that peopie— moment, the big thing that peopie sate— moment, the big thing that people care about is cost of iiving. — people care about is cost of iiving. so— people care about is cost of living. so he's— people care about is cost of living. so he's got to make initation— living. so he's got to make inflation his— living. so he's got to make inflation his absolute priority . text— inflation his absolute priority . text on— inflation his absolute priority . next on the— inflation his absolute priority . next on the list would be the nus.— . next on the list would be the tus- so— . next on the list would be the tus- so nes— . next on the list would be the nhs. so he's got— . next on the list would be the nhs. so he's got to get waiting iists— nhs. so he's got to get waiting iists tonn— nhs. so he's got to get waiting iists town as— nhs. so he's got to get waiting lists down as he— nhs. so he's got to get waiting lists down as he as he promised at tne— lists down as he as he promised at tne stopping— lists down as he as he promised at the stopping the boat boats tusiness — at the stopping the boat boats business. that— at the stopping the boat boats business. that won't happen . business. that won't happen. ue-s— business. that won't happen. ue-s not— business. that won't happen. ne-s not going— business. that won't happen. he's not going to— business. that won't happen. he's not going to stop all the boats.— he's not going to stop all the boats it— he's not going to stop all the boats it was— he's not going to stop all the boats. it was a— he's not going to stop all the boats. it was a rather stupid promise— boats. it was a rather stupid promise to— boats. it was a rather stupid promise to make, but culture is very— promise to make, but culture wars is very low— promise to make, but culture wars is very low down on the iist— wars is very low down on the iist oi— wars is very low down on the list of voters— wars is very low down on the list of voters concerns . so is list of voters concerns. so is it tnougn— list of voters concerns. so is it tnougn i— list of voters concerns. so is it though .7 well,— list of voters concerns. so is it though ? well, we talk about it though? well, we talk about it though? well, we talk about it a— it though? well, we talk about it a iot— it though? well, we talk about it a tot .— it though? well, we talk about it a tot , tut— it though? well, we talk about it a lot , but people people care it a lot, but people people care about— it a lot, but people people care about about— it a lot, but people people care about about more— it a lot, but people people care about about more important tnings— about about more important tnings. don-t— about about more important things, don't they care about totni — things, don't they care about totni ant— things, don't they care about both? and aren't- things, don't they care about both? ' it: iiii c cs things, don't they care about both? ' it: itii c cs both? and aren't they sick of political correctness? aren't they sick of , you know, charlie they sick of, you know, charlie and the chocolate factory being rewritten or comedians being cancelled simply for making an off colour joke? all those tnings— off colour joke? all those tnings .— off colour joke? all those tnings . tut— off colour joke? all those things. but they're- f . c all those things . but they're still far things. but they're still far more concerned about how are tney— more concerned about how are tney going— more concerned about how are tney going to— more concerned about how are they going to pay— more concerned about how are they going to pay the mortgage , they going to pay the mortgage, nov— they going to pay the mortgage, novv tney-re— they going to pay the mortgage, how they're going _ they going to pay the mortgage, how they're going to afford food on-taiie— how they're going to afford food on-tatie .— how they're going to afford food on-tatie . att— how they're going to afford food on table . all those are the on the table. all those are the core -issues . so - on the table. all those are the core-issues . so if- on the table. all those are the core issues . so if the

core political issues. so if the ions— core political issues. so if the tories choose _ core political issues. so if the tories choose to— core political issues. so if the tories choose to go down this route— tories choose to go down this route ant— tories choose to go down this route and saying,— tories choose to go down this route and saying, oh, this is an eiestion— route and saying, oh, this is an election winner,— route and saying, oh, this is an election winner, you might win a few election winner, you might win a iev peopie— election winner, you might win a iev peopie ove— election winner, you might win a few people over, but it ain't going— few people over, but it ain't going to— few people over, but it ain't going to win— few people over, but it ain't going to win the— few people over, but it ain't going to win the election. ust.— going to win the election. teit. as— going to win the election. teit. as per— going to win the election. ueit. as per my— going to win the election. neil, as per my big- going to win the election. neil, as per my big opinion, i do agree with nigel. i said that it's do agree with nigel. i said that wsfime do agree with nigel. i said that it's time an all out war it's time now for an all out war on inflation. the economy on inflation. it is the economy , that's got to be , stupid. that's got to be number view is and number one. my view is and listeners are struggling. it's a nightmare for many, but i think this concurrent . a lot of this runs concurrent. a lot of people mystified at keir people are mystified at keir starmer's position on the status of women, particularly the fact that he doesn't think that that all women don't have a penis. well, of course he's a prisoner of well, of course he's a prisoner oi nis— well, of course he's a prisoner oi its own— well, of course he's a prisoner oi nis party— well, of course he's a prisoner of his own party in— well, of course he's a prisoner of his own party in its obsessions,- of his own party in its obsessions, which had for many tesates— obsessions, which had for many decades increasingly so in more bizarre— decades increasingly so in more tisane issues— decades increasingly so in more bizarre issues like— decades increasingly so in more bizarre issues like the way this trans— bizarre issues like the way this trans tetate— bizarre issues like the way this trans debate has— bizarre issues like the way this trans debate has developed . you trans debate has developed. you know,— trans debate has developed. you no... vio— trans debate has developed. you know, who would— trans debate has developed. you know, who would have thought we vouit— know, who would have thought we vouit ever— know, who would have thought we vouit te— know, who would have thought we would ever be talking about sniitren— would ever be talking about children self—identify as cats or dinosaurs— children self—identify as cats or dinosaurs or— children self—identify as cats or dinosaurs or whatever , and or dinosaurs or whatever, and tnat-s— or dinosaurs or whatever, and its teen— or dinosaurs or whatever, and its teen a— or dinosaurs or whatever, and that's been a serious proposition- that's been a serious proposition which has been put iorvart— proposition which has been put iorvart ty— proposition which has been put forward by some— proposition which has been put forward by some of these extremists— forward by some of these extremists in— forward by some of these extremists in the last week. but as iat— extremists in the last week. but

as iar as— extremists in the last week. but as iar as tne— extremists in the last week. but as far as the general public is concerned,-utter. concerned, this is all utter nonsense. course , i concerned, this is all utter- nonsense..course , i.agree nonsense. of course, i do agree vitn— nonsense. of course, i do agree vvitn tiger.— nonsense. of course, i do agree with nigel.-think- nonsense. of course, i do agree with nigel. think this with nigel. i don't think this is-to— with nigel. i don't think this is-tola— with nigel. i don't think this is-to.a central- is going to be a central issue in-eiestion— is going to be a central issue in election campaign. bread in any election campaign. bread ant— in any election campaign. bread ant putter— in any election campaign. bread and butter issues— in any election campaign. bread and butter issues always are going— and butter issues always are going-matter— and butter issues always are going matter more, especially going to matter more, especially tnen— going to matter more, especially vvnen ve— going to matter more, especially when we are going— going to matter more, especially when we are going to go through a periot— when we are going to go through a periot oi— when we are going to go through a period of great— when we are going to go through a period of great economic tiiiisuity— a period of great economic tiiiisuity .— a period of great economic difficulty . so— a period of great economic difficulty . so but i mean, rishi difficulty. so but i mean, rishi sunak— difficulty. so but i mean, rishi sunak is— difficulty. so but i mean, rishi sunak is tne— difficulty. so but i mean, rishi sunak is the victim of the torpor— sunak is the victim of the torpor which— sunak is the victim of the torpor which has afflicted the ion— torpor which has afflicted the iory natty— torpor which has afflicted the iory itarty sinse— torpor which has afflicted the tory party since 2019 and protatty— tory party since 2019 and protapty tong— tory party since 2019 and probably long preceded that, vvnere— probably long preceded that, where they've— probably long preceded that, where they've made promises or given— where they've made promises or given tne— where they've made promises or given the impression of making promises— given the impression of making pronises on— given the impression of making promises on things like running the promises on things like running tne esonorny— promises on things like running tne esonorny or— promises on things like running the economy or immigration or getting— the economy or immigration or getting government debt down or you nae— getting government debt down or you it— getting government debt down or you it .— getting government debt down or you name it , and— getting government debt down or you name it, and have not been in a— you name it, and have not been in a position— you name it, and have not been in a position to— you name it, and have not been in a position to deliver on any of in a position to deliver on any oi tnen— in a position to deliver on any oi tnen. ant— in a position to deliver on any of them. and the— in a position to deliver on any of them. and the most fundamental- of them. and the most fundamental articles is brexit. treat— fundamental articles is brexit. great opportunity was utterly sguanteret— great opportunity was utterly sguanteret ty— great opportunity was utterly squandered by the inactivity on this squandered by the inactivity on tnis .— squandered by the inactivity on tnis , gutte— squandered by the inactivity on this , quite mystifying actually, this, quite mystifying actually, tesause— this, quite mystifying actually, tesause is— this, quite mystifying actually, because is the— this, quite mystifying actually, because is the tory party in rariianent— because is the tory party in parliament is— because is the tory party in parliament is now at loggerheads vitn— parliament is now at loggerheads vvitn tne— parliament is now at loggerheads with the average— parliament is now at loggerheads with the average tory thinking voter— with the average tory thinking voter in— with the average tory thinking voter in tne— with the average tory thinking voter in the country. we've seen

tnis— voter in the country. we've seen tnis ieiore— voter in the country. we've seen this before, of— voter in the country. we've seen this before, of course we had it unter— this before, of course we had it unter tonn— this before, of course we had it underjohn major.— this before, of course we had it underjohn major. i lived tnrougn— underjohn major. i lived through the— underjohn major. i lived through the horror of that parliament— through the horror of that parliament in— through the horror of that parliament in 1992 to 97, where tonn— parliament in 1992 to 97, where tonn tiaror— parliament in 1992 to 97, where john major actually declared war onin—— john major actually declared war onin— nis— john major actually declared war onin— nis party.- on eurosceptics in his party. most— on eurosceptics in his party. most foolish— on eurosceptics in his party. most foolish thing to do. and aiter— most foolish thing to do. and aiter tne— most foolish thing to do. and after the collapse of the erm for after the collapse of the erm ior iive— after the collapse of the erm for five years— after the collapse of the erm for five years the— after the collapse of the erm for five years the tories having taken— for five years the tories having iatien oii— for five years the tories having iatien oii a— for five years the tories having fallen off a cliff— for five years the tories having fallen off a cliff in the polls , tney— fallen off a cliff in the polls . tney never— fallen off a cliff in the polls , they never moved. and so the inevitaite— , they never moved. and so the inevitable cataclysm came in i997. — inevitable cataclysm came in i997. i— inevitable cataclysm came in i997. itnink— inevitable cataclysm came in 1997. i think we're in that position— 1997. i think we're in that position now.— 1997. i think we're in that position now. there is nothing the position now. there is nothing tne iories— position now. there is nothing the tories can— position now. there is nothing the tories can do— position now. there is nothing the tories can do in practise to, to— the tories can do in practise to, to inaya— the tories can do in practise to, to inaya crease their degree of to, to inaya crease their degree oi poputarity— to, to inaya crease their degree oi poputarity .— to, to inaya crease their degree oi poputarity . ii— to, to inaya crease their degree of popularity . if it— to, to inaya crease their degree of popularity . if it happens of popularity. if it happens it-ii— of popularity. if it happens it ior— of popularity. if it happens it ior te— of popularity. if it happens it'll for be reasons beyond tneir— it'll for be reasons beyond their control.— it'll for be reasons beyond their control. i— it'll for be reasons beyond their control. i wonder about tnat. — their control. i wonder about that. events,— their control. i wonder about that. events, dear- their control. i wonder about that. : that. events, dear boy events. and that's what i'm saying. how far could could could the tories get with a message that we're terrible but labour would be worse ? i the lesser of two evils worse? i the lesser of two evils strategy. i worse? i the lesser of two evils strategy . i think you do have to strategy. i think you do have to otter— strategy. i think you do have to oiier peopie — strategy. i think you do have to offer people hope— g i think you do have to offer people hope and the hope nignt— offer people hope and the hope nignt ie— offer people hope and the hope nignt te tnat— offer people hope and the hope might be that we— offer people hope and the hope might be that we regain an understanding— might be that we regain an understanding of our own society and understanding of our own society ant tne— understanding of our own society ant tne vva— understanding of our own society ant tne on—

understanding of our own society and the war on woke is certainly pari— and the war on woke is certainly part oi— and the war on woke is certainly part oi tnat. — and the war on woke is certainly part oi tnat. tut— and the war on woke is certainly part of that. but as— and the war on woke is certainly part of that. but as both my ieitov— part of that. but as both my fellow panellists have said , the fellow panellists have said, the biggest— fellow panellists have said, the biggest tning— fellow panellists have said, the biggest tning is— fellow panellists have said, the biggest thing is the economy. it's biggest thing is the economy. its being— biggest thing is the economy. it's being able— biggest thing is the economy. it's being able to afford your nousenoit— it's being able to afford your household bills,— it's being able to afford your household bills, it's being able to aiiort— household bills, it's being able to aiiort your— household bills, it's being able to afford your mortgage and i ton-t— to afford your mortgage and i ton-t tott— to afford your mortgage and i don't hold much— to afford your mortgage and i don't hold much hope that rishi sunak— don't hold much hope that rishi sunak is— don't hold much hope that rishi sunak is going— don't hold much hope that rishi sunak is going to— don't hold much hope that rishi sunak is going to reach his targets— sunak is going to reach his targets .— sunak is going to reach his targets . ant— sunak is going to reach his targets . and even if did , targets. and even if he did, naiving— targets. and even if he did, halving inflation still means your— halving inflation still means your prise— halving inflation still means your prise is— halving inflation still means your price is going up by 4. i tiger,— your price is going up by 4. i mean, nigel, that argument that iatour— mean, nigel, that argument that iatour vvouit— mean, nigel, that argument that labour would be _ mean, nigel, that argument that labour would be worse i think viii— labour would be worse i think viii te— labour would be worse i think will be potent— labour would be worse i think will be potent for— labour would be worse i think will be potent for the tories in the will be potent for the tories in tne next— will be potent for the tories in the next election.— will be potent for the tories in the next election. _ will be potent for the tories in the next election. itig cc the next election. they'll probably a humble probably have quite a humble campaign they look, campaign where they say, look, it's perfect, it's not been perfect, mistakes have been but we've got have been made, but we've got a good in rishi sunak and the good ceo in rishi sunak and the keir is your worst keir starmer is your worst nightmare you the nightmare. do you think the pubuc nightmare. do you think the public will truck with public will have truck with that? no. i mean, the that? well, no. i mean, the ions— that? well, no. i mean, the tories-already-it.| tories are already doing it. iney-re— tories are already doing it. they're arguing. yeah, make they're arguing. yeah, we make mistakes.— they're arguing. yeah, we make mistakes—what- they're arguing. yeah, we make mistakes._what it. mistakes. but imagine what it vvouit— mistakes. but imagine what it vouit te— mistakes. but imagine what it would be like— mistakes. but imagine what it would be like under labour. visit.— would be like under labour. visit. that— would be like under labour. well, what starmer- would be like under labour. well, what starmer get- would be like under labour. well, what starmer get inflation down quicker than sunak by yielding union yielding to the union barons with busting pay with their inflation busting pay demands. well, not necessarily by demands. well, not necessarily ty toing— demands. well, not necessarily ty toing it— demands. well, not necessarily ty toing it tnat— demands. well, not necessarily by doing it that way. _ 3: well, not necessarily by doing it that way. there are otner— by doing it that way. there are otner ways— by doing it that way. there are other ways-doing- by doing it that way. there are other ways doing that. pray other ways of doing that. pray tekt— other ways of doing that. pray teit tne — other ways of doing that. pray tell the well. _ other ways of doing that. pray tell the well. well, we were tatking — tell the well. well, we were talking about— tell the well. well, we were talking about that earlier that i talking about that earlier that i tnink— talking about that earlier that i tnink ne— talking about that earlier that i think he would— talking about that earlier that

i think he would still put interest— i think he would still put interest rates— i think he would still put interest rates up. he might he nignt— interest rates up. he might he nignt get— interest rates up. he might he nignt get wages— interest rates up. he might he might get wages down on the basis— might get wages down on the basis oi— might get wages down on the basis of relaxing— might get wages down on the basis of relaxing immigration ruies— basis of relaxing immigration rutes .— basis of relaxing immigration rules , which— basis of relaxing immigration rules , which would be a way of rules, which would be a way of toing— rules, which would be a way of toing tnat— rules, which would be a way of toing tnat .— rules, which would be a way of doing that . the— rules, which would be a way of doing that . the important thing doing that. the important thing is tnat— doing that. the important thing is tnat vvnen— doing that. the important thing is that when the— doing that. the important thing is that when the election comes, you-ve— is that when the election comes, youve got— is that when the election comes, youve got to— is that when the election comes, you've got to kind— is that when the election comes, you've got to kind of managers vvno— you've got to kind of managers vvno are— you've got to kind of managers who are facing— you've got to kind of managers who are facing each other, they are who are facing each other, they a pit— who are facing each other, they are a bit like— who are facing each other, they are a bit like they're both a bit corporate,— are a bit like they're both a bit corporate, aren't they? they so — bit corporate, aren't they? they so tne — bit corporate, aren't they? they are. so the result— bit corporate, aren't they? they are. so the result is what it viii— are. so the result is what it viii so— are. so the result is what it will come down— are. so the result is what it will come down to is who do you tnink— will come down to is who do you tninkltne— will come down to is who do you think-the most— will come down to is who do you think the most competent? think is the most competent? vino— think is the most competent? tits is— think is the most competent? who wins that— think is the most competent? who wins that battle- think is the most competent? c it's an who wins that battle? it's an ugly contest, isn't— who wins that battle? it's an ugly contest, isn't it- who wins that battle? it's an ugly contest, isn't it? - who wins that battle? it's an ugly contest, isn't it ? why? why ugly contest, isn't it? why? why toes— ugly contest, isn't it? why? why does rishi eejit partly he i think has more ruthless. okay. but partly he hasn't— think has more ruthless. okay. but partly he hasn't just- but partly he hasn't just u—iurnet— but partly he hasn't just u—turned at— but partly he hasn't just u—turned at every possible opportunity— u—turned at every possible opportunity and— u—turned at every possible opportunity and talking about the economic— opportunity and talking about the economic policy . well we the economic policy. well we nave— the economic policy. well we nave rust— the economic policy. well we have just seen— the economic policy. well we have just seen starmer give up on its— have just seen starmer give up on his environmental pledges tesause— on his environmental pledges tesause oi— on his environmental pledges because of the— on his environmental pledges because of the pressure on the on tne— because of the pressure on the on the economy— because of the pressure on the on the economy and we'll see ant— on the economy and we'll see more and more u—turn , he would more and more u—turn, he would aueg — more and more u—turn, he would aueg oi— more and more u—turn, he would gue oi course— more and more u—turn, he would argue. of course, he's- more and more u—turn, he would argue. of course, he's actually dedicated to sound economics . dedicated to sound economics. then he should have thought of it teiore— then he should have thought of

it teiore ne— then he should have thought of it before he announced the potisy— it before he announced the potisy. tot— it before he announced the policy. not much has changed in between. — policy. not much has changed in between. -like- policy. not much has changed in between. -like he'll- between. it looks like he'll be able prove disprove that able to prove or disprove that in a year's time, as in a year's time, unless, as neil says, something neil hamilton says, something happens outside, outside of everyone's . well, everyone's control. well, anything that does happen, you'll find out on gb news and on dolan tonight. next up, on mark dolan tonight. next up, we've more pages in, we've got more front pages in, including mail and the including the mail and the mirror with some very interesting headlines , plus the interesting headlines, plus the express as well . and my pundits express as well. and my pundits will be nominating their headune will be nominating their headline of the day. and headline heroes of the day. and they're also , they're back. page zero's also, we've been running a poll. we've been asking you, do you know the weather's great at the moment? is there anything with is there anything wrong with sunbathing in your back sunbathing naked in your back garden ? we've got the results of garden? we've got the results of that.

next well, this show is all about your opinion, a terribly important burning issue of the day, sunbathing naked in the garden. is there anything wrong with that? well we've been asking you in an exclusive mark

dolan tonight people's poll, asking you in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll , the dolan tonight people's poll, the results are in is there anything wrong sunbathing in wrong with sunbathing naked in the yes. 28.8. but no the garden? yes. 28.8. but no say a very raunchy 71.2. as annunziata said earlier, it depends on which bits get burned . the best bits always. let's have a look at some of the papers now. more papers coming in hot off the press, daily mail , fergie in recovery after a breast cancer op. that is the duchess of york who has returned home to windsor with her ex—husband , prince andrew, ex—husband, prince andrew, following several days in hospital and successful surgery. so we wish her well. she's a really nice lady and it's obviously been a tough time for her and speedy recovery to fergie, who i've always thought was a great character, daily mirror recovering at home. fergie, my breast cancer op , fergie, my breast cancer op, daily express, duchess breast cancer operation is a success and putin's days are numbered as enemies. circle and the times consumer watchdog ordered to bear teeth over rip off costs on

consumers, prepare for fall of putin. britain told and rail plan for discount tickets hits the buffers . well those are your the buffers. well those are your front pages reacting to the big stories of the day. former mep and political commentator annunziata rees—mogg , leader of annunziata rees—mogg, leader of ukip, neil hamilton and gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson . and now let's get nigel nelson. and now let's get to my pundits nominations for headune to my pundits nominations for headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day. so who should we start with? nigel, who's your headune we start with? nigel, who's your headline hero? who's smiling on you today ? the headline hero is you today? the headline hero is the you today? the headline hero is tne is— you today? the headline hero is tie it year— you today? the headline hero is tne to year ott— you today? the headline hero is the 13 year old cat— you today? the headline hero is the 13 year old cat girl- :c the headline hero is the 13 year old cat girl on the basis— the 13 year old cat girl on the basis tnat— the 13 year old cat girl on the basis that she— the 13 year old cat girl on the basis that she sparked a much neetet— basis that she sparked a much needed national— basis that she sparked a much needed national debate on just now— needed national debate on just now iat— needed national debate on just how far selfies_ needed national debate on just how far selfies identity should go how far selfies identity should 90 - — how far selfies identity should go . tas— how far selfies identity should go . nas tnat— how far selfies identity should go . has that debate- how far selfies identity should go . i go. has that debate been resolved? do you think? no cats in hell's chance of that ever being sorted out? how about annunziata? who's your headline hero ? my headline hero are the hero? my headline hero are the 213 hero? my headline hero are the its year— hero? my headline hero are the its year ott— hero? my headline hero are the 213 year old girls— c my headline hero are the 213 year old girls who recorded tneir— 213 year old girls who recorded their teacher— 213 year old girls who recorded their teacher calling them tespisaite— their teacher calling them despicable for— their teacher calling them despicable for not believing

tneir— despicable for not believing their friend— despicable for not believing their friend was— despicable for not believing their friend was a cat. so i nominate— their friend was a cat. so i nominate two— their friend was a cat. so i nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah.— nominate two other 13 year olds. veai. ve— nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah. we iive— nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah, we live in— nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah, we live in fear— nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah, we live in fear of- nominate two other 13 year olds. yeah, we live in fear of our- yeah, we live in fear of our kids. having a teacher like that don't we? i just. unbelievable. ine— don't we? i just. unbelievable. its being— don't we? i just. unbelievable. its being so— : i c c i just. unbelievable. the being so unwilling to have a tissussion— the being so unwilling to have a discussion. but— the being so unwilling to have a discussion. but just— the being so unwilling to have a discussion. but just to judge tno— discussion. but just to judge two children— discussion. but just to judge two children on— discussion. but just to judge two children on views they held ant— two children on views they held ant it— two children on views they held ant it is— two children on views they held ant it is a— two children on views they held and it is a view— two children on views they held and it is a view and an opinion. it and it is a view and an opinion. it is— and it is a view and an opinion. it is tne— and it is a view and an opinion. it is the teacher's— and it is a view and an opinion. it is the teacher's views are not— it is the teacher's views are not taset— it is the teacher's views are not based in— it is the teacher's views are not based in fact- it is the teacher's views are not based in fact . not based in fact. i also i mean, like you say, i slightly resent the word view or opinion. i mean, this is biology. that's not really a view, is it? you know that expression, gender critical? well, really, it's gender factual. ithink critical? well, really, it's gender factual. i think it can be gender factual. i think it can is most— gender factual. i think it can be most definitely— gender factual. i think it can be most definitely an- giititi f i think it can be most definitely an opinion tnat— be most definitely an opinion tnat genter— be most definitely an opinion that gender is— be most definitely an opinion that gender is different to sex. okay. — that gender is different to sex. okay. ant— that gender is different to sex. okay. ant i— that gender is different to sex. okay. and i think— that gender is different to sex. okay. and i think that's what the okay. and i think that's what tne teasner— okay. and i think that's what the teacher was— okay. and i think that's what the teacher was very bad, isn't tnat— the teacher was very bad, isn't tnat a— the teacher was very bad, isn't tnat a taste— the teacher was very bad, isn't that a fact? i'd— the teacher was very bad, isn't that a fact? i'd argue. isn't tnat— that a fact? i'd argue. isn't tnat a— that a fact? i'd argue. isn't that a fact?— that a fact? i'd argue. isn't that a fact? _ that a fact? i'd argue. isn't that a fact? i— that a fact? i'd argue. isn't that a fact? i that a fact? i'd argue. isn't that a fact? i mean, you have biological sex and you have genden biological sex and you have gender. they are different things. they have been used interchangeably— igit they have been used interchangeably hundreds interchangeably for hundreds of yeas— interchangeably for hundreds of years,_shouldn't- years, which they shouldn't have teen— years, which they shouldn't have teen-no,— years, which they shouldn't have been-no,-changed. been. but no, we've changed tneir— been. but no, we've changed their definition— been. but no, we've changed their definition . _ been. but no, we've changed their definition . their definition. i think you might be right. but i think the issue with trans ideology is going further and saying that

it's bigotry to argue there are two biological sexes that you can actually change your biological sex, that seems to be the new frontier that the trans lobby. well but you could lobby. right. well but you could get hate and abuse for saying that on television. i get hate and that on television. i get hate ant atuse— that on television. i get hate and abuse for— that on television. i get hate and abuse for saying- iii ii i get hate and abuse for saying that. route—you- and abuse for saying that.j you're—you can you're saying that you can snange— you're saying that you can change—sol you're saying that you cani change—so it'd change your gender. so it'd be rise— change your gender. so it'd be nice-some-the- change your gender. so it'd be. nice-some-the other nice to get some from the other site. — nice to get some from the other site. to— nice to get some from the other site. to one— nice to get some from the other side. no one hates— nice to get some from the other side. no one hates-we. nice to get some from the other. side. no one hates-we love side. no one hates you. we love you, thank you very much. you, nigel. thank you very much. and very happy that and i'm very i'm very happy that we cash and made a we splashed the cash and made a big money to you over big money move to get you over from sunday express and from the sunday express and rides, well . well, now rides, please as well. well, now you're look let's have you're talking. look let's have a look at your headline hero, the brilliant neil hamilton . the brilliant neil hamilton. well, i'm going to strike out in a tiiierent— well, i'm going to strike out in a different direction. and my neatiine— a different direction. and my headline hero— a different direction. and my headline hero is— a different direction. and my headline hero is yevgeny irigosnin— headline hero is yevgeny prigozhin and— headline hero is yevgeny prigozhin and leader of wagner, ieater— prigozhin and leader of wagner, teater oi— prigozhin and leader of wagner, teater oi tne— prigozhin and leader of wagner, leader of the sort— prigozhin and leader of wagner, leader of the sort of renegade private— leader of the sort of renegade private any— leader of the sort of renegade private army employed by putin, nno— private army employed by putin, vvno turnet— private army employed by putin, who turned on— private army employed by putin, who turned on him. xiiiclg and who turned on him. exactly. and it's who turned on him. exactly. and its an— who turned on him. exactly. and it's an accidental— who turned on him. exactly. and it's an accidental vote— who turned on him. xiiiclg and it's an accidental vote in a sense, because _ it's an accidental vote in a sense, because is it is what he tit. — sense, because is it is what he tit. ant— sense, because is it is what he tit. ant tne— sense, because is it is what he did. and the effect— sense, because is it is what he did. and the effect this is iikety— did. and the effect this is iikeiy to— did. and the effect this is likely to have— did. and the effect this is likely to have eventually on the itussian— likely to have eventually on the russian regime.— likely to have eventually on the russian regime. and although he

titn-t— russian regime. and although he titn-t to— russian regime. and although he didn't do what— russian regime. and although he didn't do what he— russian regime. and although he didn't do what he did for reasons that— didn't do what he did for reasons that i- didn't do what he did for reasons that i would regard as nerois— reasons that i would regard as nerois .— reasons that i would regard as nerois , iike— reasons that i would regard as heroic , like the— reasons that i would regard as heroic , like the flip side of heroic, like the flip side of tnat— heroic, like the flip side of tnat oin— heroic, like the flip side of that coin is— heroic, like the flip side of that coin is that he could be tne— that coin is that he could be tne petite— that coin is that he could be the pebble which when removed uitinatety— the pebble which when removed ultimately causes— the pebble which when removed ultimately causes the avalanche, vvnisn— ultimately causes the avalanche, vnisn viii— ultimately causes the avalanche, which will bring— ultimately causes the avalanche, which will bring putin and his cronies down. _ which will bring putin and his cronies down. he— which will bring putin and his cronies down. ti i; which will bring putin and his cronies down. i; cronies down. he is hoping well, from yevgeny prigozhin to our back page zero. and nigel, speak of the devil . yes, yes, yes. of the devil. yes, yes, yes. vevgeny— of the devil. yes, yes, yes. yevgeny prigozhin- of the devil. yes, yes, yes. yevgeny prigozhin .- c yes, yes, yes. yevgeny prigozhin . and on the yevgeny prigozhin. and on the basis— yevgeny prigozhin. and on the basis oi— yevgeny prigozhin. and on the basis oi vny— yevgeny prigozhin. and on the basis of why on— yevgeny prigozhin. and on the basis of why on earth did he go to aii— basis of why on earth did he go to ati tnat— basis of why on earth did he go to all that trouble? yeah. uitn-t— to all that trouble? yeah. titn-t sarry— to all that trouble? yeah. didn't carry any of it out. pisappearet— didn't carry any of it out. disappeared off to belarus. i rust— disappeared off to belarus. i rust san-t— disappeared off to belarus. i rust san-t see— disappeared off to belarus. i just can't see the point of what he just can't see the point of what is tit.— just can't see the point of what is tit. so— just can't see the point of what he did. so incompetent . he did. so incompetent. but you sisutt— he did. so incompetent. but you sisutt ie— he did. so incompetent. but you sisutt is in— he did. so incompetent. but you should be in the government. you take neil's point though, tnat— you take neil's point though, tnat its— you take neil's point though, that it's drawn— you take neil's point though, that it's drawn a— you take neil's point though, that it's drawn a little blood in tne— that it's drawn a little blood in the kremlin.— that it's drawn a little blood in the kremlin. i— that it's drawn a little blood in the kremlin. i think it's tone. — in the kremlin. i think it's tone. -iut— in the kremlin. i think it's tone. -iut i- in the kremlin. i think it's done-but i don't. in the kremlin. i think it's. done-but i don't think done. that but i don't think it's got of that he it's got rid of putin that he didn't out to depose putin. didn't set out to depose putin. it'll all depend now on the people surrounding putin. what happens next? back page zero, yours— happens next? back page zero, yours .— happens next? back page zero, yours , annunziata,— happens next? back page zero, yours , annunziata, a- itich’ back page zero, yours , annunziata, a suntanned yours, annunziata, a suntanned sanatian— yours, annunziata, a suntanned sanatian . — yours, annunziata, a suntanned canadian . tell— yours, annunziata, a suntanned canadian . tell me- yours, annunziata, a suntanned canadian . iiti iitit”ti canadian. tell me more is mark carney and laughter of derision

from the pundits, the nude sunbathing that would be dealing with . i don't want to see mark with. i don't want to see mark carney nude sunbathing or in the nudein carney nude sunbathing or in the nude in any other respect , but i nude in any other respect, but i do think that it is ridiculous that he is blaming brexit for the inflation crisis. it was he was in charge of bank of england monetary policy for seven years, up until 2020. we saw an inordinate amounts of quantitative easing in that time and absolutely no regard for the build up that was creating for inflation and nothing done with interest rates. he should have been on the game himself. i think he's just like prince harry. yeah, blame anyone but yourself. that's right. and you are yourself. that's right. and you tne— yourself. that's right. and you tne very— yourself. that's right. and you are the very thing— that's right. and you are the very thing they accuse you— are the very thing they accuse you oi— are the very thing they accuse you oi being.— are the very thing they accuse you of being. absolutely. and tnis— you of being. absolutely. and tits is— you of being. absolutely. and tits is tne— you of being. absolutely. and this is the .with- you of being. absolutely. and this is the with blood on this is the guy with blood on his this is the guy with blood on its—it— this is the guy with blood on his—it comes- this is the guy with blood on his—it comes toi his hands when it comes to inflation — his hands when it comes to inflation. only— his hands when it comes to inflation. only a— his hands when it comes to inflation. only a couple of ssont— inflation. only a couple of seconds-to- inflation. only a couple of seconds-to have. inflation. only a couple of seconds-to have at seconds for you to have a go at itisni— seconds for you to have a go at itisni sunak.— seconds for you to have a go at rishi sunak. neil,— seconds for you to have a go at rishi sunak. neil, why? well tesause— rishi sunak. neil, why? well because-the- rishi sunak. neil, why? well because the nerve to tell because he has the nerve to tell peopie— people to hold their nerve turing— people to hold their nerve tuning a— people to hold their nerve during a crisis— people to hold their nerve during a crisis that he has been very— during a crisis that he has been very targety— during a crisis that he has been very largely responsible for

seating— very largely responsible for seating-as- very largely responsible for creating, as chancellor of creating, both as chancellor of the exchequer,— creating, both as chancellor of. the exchequer,_the the exchequer, during which the great— the exchequer, during which the great ti— the exchequer, during which the great qe quantitative easing spturge— great qe quantitative easing spturge vvas— great qe quantitative easing splurge was was exploding and sutseguentiy— splurge was was exploding and subsequently talking about such iooiisn— subsequently talking about such foolish things— subsequently talking about such foolish things as— subsequently talking about such foolish things as caps on prices in supermarkets— foolish things as caps on prices in supermarkets on basic items of in supermarkets on basic items oi toot— in supermarkets on basic items oi ioot as— in supermarkets on basic items oi ioot as a— in supermarkets on basic items of food as a means of controlling— of food as a means of controlling inflation, political ginniskry— controlling inflation, political ginniskry .— controlling inflation, political gimmickry . neil, thank you so gimmickry. neil, thank you so must. — gimmickry. neil, thank you so must. try— gimmickry. neil, thank you so much. my brilliant pundit tonignt— much. my brilliant pundit tonight. nunziata nigel and neit— tonight. nunziata nigel and net. ive— tonight. nunziata nigel and neil. i've really— tonight. nunziata nigel and neil. i've really enjoyed your sonpany— neil. i've really enjoyed your sonpany as— neil. i've really enjoyed your company as well— neil. i've really enjoyed your company as well all weekend. vie-re— company as well all weekend. vie-re task— company as well all weekend. we're back on— company as well all weekend. we're back on friday at 9:00. inanks— we're back on friday at 9:00. inanks to— we're back on friday at 9:00. thanks to dominic and the team for thanks to dominic and the team ior toing— thanks to dominic and the team ior toing a— thanks to dominic and the team for doing a great— thanks to dominic and the team for doing a great job. headliners- for doing a great job. headliners is next. have a great week.— headliners is next. have a great week. — headliners is next. have a great week. at.— headliners is next. have a great week. ii. in— headliners is next. have a great week. hi, i'm dan— headliners is next. have a great week. t i i headliners is next. have a great week. 2i /tit. week. hi, i'm dan wootton. you can watch me live on gb news monday to thursday from 9 pm. and did you know that you can also watch listen live on also watch and listen live on our website gb news news.com. you'll always be up to date on the latest breaking news as well as enjoying the best stories , as enjoying the best stories, opinions and shows. you can even join the debate under our live player as you're watching. so head straight to gbnews.com on tv, radio and online gb news.

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