in us matt hancock up in the dock talking away today. what do you make to it all.7 have dock talking away today. what do you make to it all? have you been following it? is it time to draw a line? move on with life or should mps be prosecuted for some of their wrongdoing? doing? and it to climate and when it comes to the climate , what on earth is going on? every here don't have every day i here we don't have enough then are enough houses. why then are councils down the councils turning down the development of properties? because of flood risks which may occur get this, almost a occur and get this, almost a hundred years time , what on

hundred years time, what on earth is going on? and when it comes to our army, are we safe or it has been called some or not? it has been called some of our equipment. it's like a dial phone in the iphone era . dial phone in the iphone era. what is going on are we've been neglect and if so, why? and what do we do about it? and pensioners ? do they need a pay pensioners? do they need a pay rise ? is it time to respect the rise? is it time to respect the triple lock ? and what about triple lock? and what about things like interest rates on savings accounts? should we be giving more to the pensioners out there and i also want to talk to you about working class in the media. are there enough of not? if not, why not? of us or not? if not, why not? we've all coming your way we've got it all coming your way and before we do, and more. but before we do, polly has the . news polly middlehurst has the. news michelle, thank you. good evening— michelle, thank you. good evening .— michelle, thank you. good evening . the— michelle, thank you. good evening . the top story tonight evening. the top story tonight on ea— evening. the top story tonight on ea news,— evening. the top story tonight on gb news, the— evening. the top story tonight on gb news, the inquest into nicola— on gb news, the inquest into nicola bully's_ on gb news, the inquest into nicola bully's death concluded today— nicola bully's death concluded today that— nicola bully's death concluded today that the— nicola bully's death concluded today that the mother of two died— today that the mother of two died from — today that the mother of two died from accidental drowning. senior— died from accidental drowning. senior coroner— died from accidental drowning. senior coroner dr. _ died from accidental drowning. senior coroner dr. james adley tom— senior coroner dr. james adley tom the— senior coroner dr. james adley told the inquest— senior coroner dr. james adley told the inquest nicola bully feu— told the inquest nicola bully feu into— told the inquest nicola bully fell into cold— told the inquest nicola bully fell into cold water and gave no

indication— fell into cold water and gave no indication of— fell into cold water and gave no indication of any— fell into cold water and gave no indication of any intention to take— indication of any intention to take her— indication of any intention to take her ewe— indication of any intention to take her own life. ms bully disappeared— take her own life. ms bully disappeared in— take her own life. ms bully disappeared in january whilst out disappeared in january whilst eutwetkine— disappeared in january whilst out walking her— disappeared in january whilst out walking her dog along the rever— out walking her dog along the river wye— out walking her dog along the river wyre her— out walking her dog along the river wyre her body was found three— river wyre her body was found three weeke— river wyre her body was found three weeks later— river wyre her body was found three weeks later . lancashire three weeks later. lancashire pence— three weeks later. lancashire eeuee says— three weeks later. lancashire police says it— three weeks later. lancashire police says it hopes the coroner's findings will now put to en— coroner's findings will now put to an end— coroner's findings will now put to an end ene— coroner's findings will now put to an end the ill— coroner's findings will now put to an end the ill informed speculation— to an end the ill informed speculation which has been so damaging— speculation which has been so danagdng ae— speculation which has been so damaging to nikki's family. speculation which has been so damaging to nikki's family . the damaging to nikki's family. the dandy-e— damaging to nikki's family. the nanny-e danger,— damaging to nikki's family. the family's lawyer, meanwhile, deny— family's lawyer, meanwhile, deny wadeex, — family's lawyer, meanwhile, terry wilcox, said the family are terry wilcox, said the family gnaaenad— terry wilcox, said the family are grateful for— terry wilcox, said the family are grateful for the support deg-ve— are grateful for the support aneg-ve dee— are grateful for the support they've also received over the dae— they've also received over the dad fen— they've also received over the last few months— they've also received over the last few months have been exnenedy— last few months have been extremely tough to process for our extremely tough to process for dandy— extremely tough to process for dandy . — extremely tough to process for our family. the— extremely tough to process for our family . nzf�*nzn. extremely tough to process for our family . jet our family. the emotional impact will stay long in our hearts . will stay long in our hearts. and whilst we will never forget the loss of our nikki, we will forever remember her as a brilliant mum , partner, daughter brilliant mum, partner, daughter and sister that we all knew and loved so very much . the help and loved so very much. the help and support we have received over these past few months has meant more than words can say now. hospital consultants in england

are hospital consultants in england dae— hospital consultants in england dae ae— hospital consultants in england are due to walk— hospital consultants in england are due to walk out next month after— are due to walk out next month anen vedng— are due to walk out next month after voting heavily in favour in a— after voting heavily in favour in a denude— after voting heavily in favour in a dispute over— after voting heavily in favour in a dispute over pay more than needed— in a dispute over pay more than 24,000 members— in a dispute over pay more than 24,000 members of the british medea— 24,000 members of the british medical association voted in favour— medical association voted in favoured— medical association voted in favour of industrial action. and-e— favour of industrial action. anade sen— favour of industrial action. that's 86% on— favour of industrial action. that's 86% on a turnout of 71. it that's 86% on a turnout of 71. n edd— that's 86% on a turnout of 71. n eadd anat— that's 86% on a turnout of 71. it said that unless— that's 86% on a turnout of 71. it said that unless the government- it said that unless the government makes a credible onen— government makes a credible offer, members— government makes a credible offer, members will strike on july— offer, members will strike on and ne— offer, members will strike on and ane zoan— offer, members will strike on july the 20th and 21st, just days— july the 20th and 21st, just days anaer— july the 20th and 21st, just days afterjunior july the 20th and 21st, just days after junior doctors are july the 20th and 21st, just days afterjunior doctors are on days after junior doctors are on andr— days after junior doctors are on anen dae— days after junior doctors are on anen five day— days after junior doctors are on their five day strike and the annea— their five day strike and the dread en— their five day strike and the threat of more— their five day strike and the threat of more strikes by nurses in engdand— threat of more strikes by nurses in angdand nae— threat of more strikes by nurses in england has ended after a band— in england has ended after a band an— in england has ended after a ballot on further— in england has ended after a ballot on further industrial adden— ballot on further industrial action failed— ballot on further industrial action failed to— ballot on further industrial action failed to meet the legal anneendd. — action failed to meet the legal threshold. the— action failed to meet the legal threshold. the royal college of waning— threshold. the royal college of dandng eage— threshold. the royal college of nursing says 84%_ threshold. the royal college of nursing says 84% of its members voted— nursing says 84% of its members voted ae— nursing says 84% of its members added to back— nursing says 84% of its members voted to back more— nursing says 84% of its members voted to back more strikes, but and— voted to back more strikes, but only den— voted to back more strikes, but only we dean— voted to back more strikes, but only 43% took part in the ballot , nnden— only 43% took part in the ballot ,nnden meane— only 43% took part in the ballot , which means it— only 43% took part in the ballot , which means it failed to reach the , which means it failed to reach ane regained— , which means it failed to reach the required 50%_ , which means it failed to reach the required 50% needed to make it a dega— the required 50% needed to make an a degad endan— the required 50% needed to make it a legal option. nurses began anene— it a legal option. nurses began there industrial— it a legal option. nurses began there industrial action towards there industrial action towards ane end— there industrial action towards ane end an— there industrial action towards the end of 2022. _ there industrial action towards the end of 2022. in a dispute nay,—

the end of 2022. in a dispute pay, ane— the end of 2022. in a dispute over pay, the health secretary, saeve— over pay, the health secretary, saeve bandag— over pay, the health secretary, steve barclay, says he's ready to wean— steve barclay, says he's ready to wean wen— steve barclay, says he's ready to work with the _ steve barclay, says he's ready to work with the rcn going forward. — to work with the rcn going forward. we— to work with the rcn going forward. �*fd�*nz; t: to work with the rcn going forward. t: : forward. we reached a deal with the nhs staff council that the majority of trade unions agreed to and pleased that the rcn have now ended their industrial action and we stand ready to work in partnership with the nhs staff council as a whole. but also with the rcn. there are a number of aspects of our deal with the agenda for change unions . we continue to work with unions. we continue to work with them and we stand ready to do so with the rcn. now the former neann— with the rcn. now the former health secretary— with the rcn. now the former health secretary matt- ?c\a now the former health secretary matt hancock nae— health secretary matt hancock nae dndened— health secretary matt hancock has finished giving evidence to the has finished giving evidence to ane cadd— has finished giving evidence to ane cedd de— has finished giving evidence to the covid 19 inquiry today , the covid 19 inquiry today, saying— the covid 19 inquiry today, saying nothing— the covid 19 inquiry today, saying nothing could bring back the saying nothing could bring back ane people— saying nothing could bring back ane people nne— saying nothing could bring back the people who died. he said anat— the people who died. he said and in— the people who died. he said that in future— the people who died. he said that in future they would need to that in future they would need do be — that in future they would need do be earn— that in future they would need to be early intervention to stop aneanen— to be early intervention to stop another pandemic— to be early intervention to stop another pandemic killing people. he edd— another pandemic killing people. he said anat— another pandemic killing people. he said that adult— another pandemic killing people. he said that adult social care flawed— he said that adult social care was flawed in— he said that adult social care was flawed in the uk and was in no was flawed in the uk and was in ne geod— was flawed in the uk and was in no near good enough shape to edge— no near good enough shape to edge nnen— no near good enough shape to edge nnen ane— no near good enough shape to cope when the pandemic hit in 2020. — cope when the pandemic hit in 2020. de— cope when the pandemic hit in 2020. he dee— cope when the pandemic hit in 2020. he also revealed the uk nnndn— 2020. he also revealed the uk came within hours— 2020. he also revealed the uk came within hours of running out of medicines—

came within hours of running out of medicines for— came within hours of running out of medicines for intensive care during— of medicines for intensive care during ane— of medicines for intensive care during the pandemic. dz; during the pandemic. he was one of ne— during the pandemic. he was one ed the need— during the pandemic. he was one of the best placed countries in the world for responding to a pandemic and indeed in some areas categorised by the world health organisation as the best place in the world. and you can understand that when you're assured by the leading global authority that the uk is the best prepared in the world, that is quite a significant reassurance . that turned out to reassurance. that turned out to be wrong . a government watchdog be wrong. a government watchdog has be wrong. a government watchdog nae found— be wrong. a government watchdog nae neand anag— be wrong. a government watchdog has found that boris— g a government watchdog has found that boris johnson's aedene— has found that boris johnson's aedene dn— has found that boris johnson's actions in the— has found that boris johnson's actions in the lead up to taking up actions in the lead up to taking an ne— actions in the lead up to taking an we ne— actions in the lead up to taking an we gen— actions in the lead up to taking up his new job at— actions in the lead up to taking up his new job at the daily mail deg...— up his new job at the daily mail depher instigated— up his new job at the daily mail depher instigated an urgent need for depher instigated an urgent need new endan— depher instigated an urgent need for reform. the— depher instigated an urgent need for reform. the advisory committee _ for reform. the advisory committee on- for reform. the advisory committee on business appointments says the former prime — appointments says the former prime minister— appointments says the former prime minister told them about his prime minister told them about we ne— prime minister told them about his new position. _ prime minister told them about his new position. only 30 minute— his new position. only 30 minutes before- his new position. only 30 minutes before he announced it on twitter.— minutes before he announced it on twitter. the— minutes before he announced it on twitter. the rules state fenne— on twitter. the rules state former ministers should neither announce nor take— former ministers should neither announce nor take up jobs before receiving— announce nor take up jobs before receiving adwee— announce nor take up jobs before receiving advice from the committee— receiving advice from the committee in— receiving advice from the committee in the united states, the committee in the united states, we ween— committee in the united states, the prison guards— committee in the united states, the prison guards charged with keeping— the prison guards charged with keeping sane—

the prison guards charged with keeping safe the— the prison guards charged with keeping safe the convicted sex offender— keeping safe the convicted sex offender jeffrey— keeping safe the convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein, have been— offender jeffrey epstein, have been blamed— offender jeffrey epstein, have been blamed for— offender jeffrey epstein, have been blamed for a series of names— been blamed for a series of nadwee dn— been blamed for a series of failures in the— been blamed for a series of failures in the lead up to his swede— failures in the lead up to his eaddde .— failures in the lead up to his suicide . the— failures in the lead up to his suicide . the 66— failures in the lead up to his suicide . the 66 year old killed suicide. the 66 year old killed ndneen— suicide. the 66 year old killed himself while— suicide. the 66 year old killed himself while awaiting trial on sex trafficking— himself while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. a new repen— sex trafficking charges. a new neaen dw— sex trafficking charges. a new report by inspector general wdenaed— report by inspector general michael horowitz singled out 13 michael horowitz singled out13 ween— michael horowitz singled out 13 aneen stan— michael horowitz singled out 13 prison staff members for misconduct— prison staff members for misconduct and dereliction of daw— misconduct and dereliction of duty .— misconduct and dereliction of duty . ane— misconduct and dereliction of duty . the kremlin says that duty. the kremlin says that vdaddnw— duty. the kremlin says that vladimir putin's position was not enawen— vladimir putin's position was not enawen dw— vladimir putin's position was not shaken by yevgeny prigozhin's_ not shaken by yevgeny prigozhin's attempted mutiny at the prigozhin's attempted mutiny at we weekend— prigozhin's attempted mutiny at we weekend .— prigozhin's attempted mutiny at the weekend . the— prigozhin's attempted mutiny at the weekend . the comments came the weekend. the comments came as ane— the weekend. the comments came as the president— the weekend. the comments came as the president of— the weekend. the comments came as the president of belarus offered— as the president of belarus offered the— as the president of belarus offered the wagner group leader a nedeeaden— offered the wagner group leader a relocation deal— offered the wagner group leader a relocation deal aimed at ending— a relocation deal aimed at enddng ane— a relocation deal aimed at ending the rebellion, which was dawnened— ending the rebellion, which was dawnened en— ending the rebellion, which was launched on saturday. president nann— launched on saturday. president nadn made— launched on saturday. president nadn made a— launched on saturday. president putin made a public appearance weenendaw— putin made a public appearance yesterday praising— putin made a public appearance yesterday praising russian weane— yesterday praising russian wedge nea— yesterday praising russian troops for stopping the coup anennn— troops for stopping the coup attempt. putin— troops for stopping the coup attempt. putin also announced neu— attempt. putin also announced ne-u dawnen— attempt. putin also announced he'll launch an— attempt. putin also announced he'll launch an investigation inde— he'll launch an investigation into new— he'll launch an investigation into how the— he'll launch an investigation into how the money that was paid to ane— into how the money that was paid do we wagnen— into how the money that was paid to the wagner group and its founder— to the wagner group and its founder wa— to the wagner group and its founder was spent . now, to the wagner group and its founder was spent. now, i'm sure wen-u— founder was spent. now, i'm sure wen-u ne— founder was spent. now, i'm sure wen-d ne neanng— founder was spent. now, i'm sure you'll be hearing a— founder was spent. now, i'm sure you'll be hearing a lot about ann— you'll be hearing a lot about we ewe— you'll be hearing a lot about this over the— you'll be hearing a lot about this over the next hour . gb news this over the next hour. gb news nae— this over the next hour. gb news nae picked— this over the next hour. gb news nae added an— this over the next hour. gb news nae added an a— this over the next hour. gb news

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thankful , grateful to all of you thankful, grateful to all of you guys at home. as i know all of my colleagues are. i speak, of course, about the tric awards where we gb news well, not just once, but twice today. everybody. what a treat. i can't wait to tell you all about that. you should seen the faces you should have seen the faces of industry, people that of the industry, people in that room. happy. i can room. they were not happy. i can tell that for free. it was tell you that for free. it was fabulous. keeping me fabulous. anyway, keeping me company 7:00 tonight. so company till 7:00 tonight. so i've company till 7:00 tonight. so pve the company till 7:00 tonight. so i've the and i've got the writer and political commentator conor tomlinson and former editor tomlinson and the former editor of labourlist , peter edwards. of labourlist, peter edwards. welcome both of you. you know welcome to both of you. you know the drill as well, don't you? it's not about us three. it it's not just about us three. it is very about you guys at is very much about you guys at home. on mind home. what's on your mind tonight ? in all the tonight? get in touch. all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com or you can tweet me at gb news as helen has just done, asking me why i'm wearing my socks and not shoes. they are not socks , not shoes. they are not socks, helen. i am wearing sock boots . helen. i am wearing sock boots. what can i say? i'm just the height of fashion. that's what you've got to be these days when you've got to be these days when you go across to award ceremonies, was so great. ceremonies, it was so great. guys. cannot tell you

guys. i cannot wait to tell you all it. nigel farage, of all about it. nigel farage, of course, up after me. he will be telling you all about it as well. it just so fabulous. well. it was just so fabulous. so people wrote off gb so many people wrote off gb news, didn't they, before your would broadcast split would even broadcast a split second of content ? a huge second of content? a huge campaign going on about us and they had to eat their words today. so. so they did absolutely wonderful. and i'll be coming on to that before the end of the programme. but of course, top news today, because i just been at tric i haven't just been at the tric awards, i've somewhere else awards, i've been somewhere else today well. been very today as well. i've been a very busy individual lots of you busy individual as lots of you have out. here, have pointed out. look here, i am moonlighting earlier on today. can you see me? do you see me? look front row. if i had a pound for every body that has sent me this video or pictures or screenshots today, i'd be absolutely minted. people asking me, what am i doing at the covid inquiry? i got to say , it's not inquiry? i got to say, it's not me. i've got a double. oh, what a treat. what a lucky lady. she is. but of course i referenced the covid inquiry. matt hancock was there , of course today he

was there, of course today he speaking out, apologising to the families of people that have died during the covid pandemic. he said that the western world needs to rethink pandemic planning. you don't see. he also went on to say quite a few random bits and pieces. if you ask me. for example, he was saying that he struggles to show his feelings really ? lee look, i his feelings really? lee look, i andererand— his feelings really? lee look, i understand that. _ his feelings really? lee look, i understand that. i— his feelings really? lee look, i understand that. i get- his feelings really? lee look, i understand that. i get it- " ”dirt; 93 ”can? lee look, i understand that. gt; c his feelings really? lee look, i understand that. i get it, but it understand that. i get it, but in re— understand that. i get it, but it is honest and heartfelt and i'm not very good at talking about my emotions and how i feel . but that is honest and true , . but that is honest and true, honest and true. do you remember this honest and true. do you remember rnre dra— honest and true. do you remember rnre dm ae— honest and true. do you remember this clip as well?— honest and true. do you remember this clip as well? i'll— do you remember this clip as well? i'll never ranger— this clip as well? i'll never rager ame— this clip as well? i'll never forget this as— this clip as well? i'll never forget this as long as i live. wnen— forget this as long as i live. wnen dr— forget this as long as i live. when it comes— forget this as long as i live. when it comes to matt hancock's rnrnwng— when it comes to matt hancock's rnrnwng aneur— when it comes to matt hancock's thinking about honest and true and errwggdng— thinking about honest and true and struggling to show your neednge— and struggling to show your. needinge—rnre feelings, do you remember this wed.— feelings, do you remember this one? well, it's— feelings, do you remember this one? well, it's just- feelings, do you remember this one? �*fdrz;cc c c feelings, do you remember this one? well, it's just it's been, you know , it's been such a tough you know, it's been such a tough year so many people. and year for so many people. and there's william shakespeare putting it so simply for everybody that, you know, we can

get on with our lives . what get on with our lives. what a pillar . do get on with our lives. what a pillar . no war— ng ” c what a pillar. do you remember that? he needed— pillar. do you remember that? he needed ,— pillar. do you remember that? he needed , a— pillar. do you remember that? he insisted , of course,— pillar. do you remember that? he insisted , of course, that that insisted, of course, that that he insisted, of course, that that ne wae— insisted, of course, that that ne awrng— insisted, of course, that that he was crying, that he was distressed. _ he was crying, that he was distressed. and— he was crying, that he was distressed. and people actually magna— distressed. and people actually neagnr mar.— distressed. and people actually bought that. he— distressed. and people actually bought that. he wasn't crying. he bought that. he wasn't crying. ne wen-enr— bought that. he wasn't crying. he weren't distressed . he was he weren't distressed. he was dawgnrng— he weren't distressed. he was dawgnrng me— he weren't distressed. he was laughing his head off trying to maew— laughing his head off trying to masklds— laughing his head off trying to masklas well. _ laughing his head off trying to masklas well. if— laughing his head off trying to mask as well. if you ask me mask it as well. if you ask me now— mask it as well. if you ask me now, connor, this— mask it as well. if you ask me now, connor, this covid erraaden— now, connor, this covid situation ,_ now, connor, this covid situation , it- now, connor, this covid situation , it really does divide situation, it really does divide my situation, it really does divide mw-rnere-d- situation, it really does divide my-there'll be - situation, it really does divide my there'll be people my viewers. there'll be people and— my viewers. there'll be people and|ean— my viewers. there'll be people and|ean-wea.— my viewers. there'll be people and|ean-wea. r- my viewers. there'll be people andican-you. i can- my viewers. there'll be people and can you. i can hear and i can hear you. i can hear wea— and i can hear you. i can hear wen-on— and i can hear you. i can hear you-oh, michelle,- and i can hear you. i can hear you oh, michelle, shut you saying, oh, michelle, shut up. eren— you saying, oh, michelle, shut up. snap radnrng— you saying, oh, michelle, shut up. stop talking about covid. newe— up. stop talking about covid. wave-wnar-e— up. stop talking about covid. move what's matter with move on. what's the matter with were— move on. what's the matter with wane-anaem— move on. what's the matter with you?-there'll be— move on. what's the matter with you? there'll be the other you? then there'll be the other erde — you? then there'll be the other side -absolutely - you? then there'll be the other side absolutely not. side that say, absolutely not. me— side that say, absolutely not. rnre re— side that say, absolutely not. this is fundamental. what else are-wed.— this is fundamental. what else are-well, there's- this is fundamental. what else are -well, there's plentyl this is fundamental. what else. are -well, there's plenty of are you? well, there's plenty of people that move on from people that can't move on from it hopkins it because john hopkins university a meta university recently did a meta analysis they found that analysis and they found that lockdowns saved in england and wales a maximum of 1700 lives at the expense of missed cancer diagnoses , as multiple suicides diagnoses, as multiple suicides delayed treatments that are still going to be filtering through the nhs system for years to come. and years children's to come. and years of children's development being hampered by missing time and missing education. time and socialising. so yeah, there's not not people that not there's not many people that can from it. matt

can move on from it. matt hancock kind doesn't hancock also kind of doesn't want on from it because want to move on from it because after his scandal, he after his scandal, after he decided rules, the decided to flout the rules, the house arrest that he put us all under and betray his wife and children. again, very honest of him, capitalise on him, he decided to capitalise on that trying to a tell that by trying to write a tell all book he decided to all book that he decided to flout wootton and flout on dan wootton show. and instead accountability instead of face accountability and questioning, and sell and questioning, try and sell that then go on a reality tv that and then go on a reality tv show think the public were show and think the public were just going to be won over his just going to be won over by his total and then total lack of charisma. and then as soon as whatsapps as soon as his whatsapps are thought in the thought to be included in the inquiry, shies away from that inquiry, he shies away from that like from garlic. like a vampire from garlic. i don't anyone should be don't think anyone should be forgiving of him and i don't think anyone should move on from lockdown. we lockdown. i think we need absolute accountability all absolute accountability for all the betrayed by the people that were betrayed by the people that were betrayed by the political system. do you agree, peter? i mean, connor agree, peter? no i mean, connor goes a very personal route, goes down a very personal route, and fan of matt hancock. and i'm no fan of matt hancock. i think he was a very poor health secretary and was guilty of massively overstating, exaggerating government competence. exaggerating government compelznce. exaggerating government compei think a first thought today, i think a first thought should the people who should be with the people who died their ones. died and their loved ones. i think dewberry think michelle dewberry a question statement question or a statement that you said, move or should

said, can we move on or should we on? and i think there we move on? and i think there are bereaved families. there are people the people struggling with the health impact to survive. and of course, an economic course, there's an economic hangover on the whole country. and of one's view of and regardless of one's view of lockdown, and i wanted an earlier lockdown, there's a earlier lockdown, but there's a grief that will never go away for bereaved families. some still have health problems and the economic impact is probably going to be with us for decades. well i push back on my viewers because a lot of them will say michelle is them telling me to move they will to me, move on. they will say to me, erad— move on. they will say to me, move on, stop talking- rzzr" they will say to me, move on, stop talking about did" they will say to me, move on, stop talking about it. i_5dy_ move on, stop talking about it. r—eaw ane- move on, stop talking about it. i_say the reason i move on, stop talking about it. i_say the reason ifi i will always say the reason if you— i will always say the reason if wen rraee— i will always say the reason if you trace back— i will always say the reason if you trace back most the you trace back most of the arenreme— you trace back most of the grandeme m— you trace back most of the problems in society motty today, you trace back most of the protwills in society motty today, you trace back most of the protwill ber society motty today, you trace back most of the protwill be able aty motty today, you trace back most of the protwill be able to motty today, you trace back most of the protwill be able to tracey today, you trace back most of the protwill be able to trace them y, you will be able to trace them nad— you will be able to trace them dad-way, — you will be able to trace them dad-way, enane- you will be able to trace them back way, shape or form back in some way, shape or form to back in some way, shape or form re-nandemre— back in some way, shape or form re-nandemre-r- to the pandemic response. i den-r— to the pandemic response. i den-r dame— to the pandemic response. i don't blame the— to the pandemic response. i don't blame the pandemic. i dame— don't blame the pandemic. ii blame—response don't blame the pandemic. i- blame_response for blame the pandemic response for it. blame the pandemic response for n. |rememner— blame the pandemic response for it. iremember you— blame the pandemic response for it. remember you and i used to it. i remember you and i used to argue— it. i remember you and i used to argue dr— it. i remember you and i used to argue in neede— it. i remember you and i used to argue it feels like— it. i remember you and i used to argue it feels like a— it. i remember you and i used to argue it feels like a lifetime ago— argue it feels like a lifetime age-aneur— argue it feels like a lifetime ago-about some- argue it feels like a lifetime ago about some of the ago now about some of the restrictions— ago now about some of thei restrictions _the restrictions and some of the meaee-r— restrictions and some of the measures. i always measures. but i was always amaded— measures. but i was always appalled- r— measures. but i was always appalled. i was— measures. but i was always appalled. i was originally rngnrened— appalled. i was originally frightened are the same as many deeme— frightened are the same as many aeende. r— frightened are the same as many people- r wae— frightened are the same as many people. i was terrified, arran— people. i was terrified, aerwadw. r— people. i was terrified, actually. i was pregnant with a unde— actually. i was pregnant with a wade—ar- actually. i was pregnant with a little—at the i little baby inside me at the dime— little baby inside me at the rime-ame— little baby inside me at the time -this big- little baby inside me at the time this big scary thing, time and this big scary thing, and— time and this big scary thing, and r— time and this big scary thing, and r-made— time and this big scary thing,

and i-made to- time and this big scary thing, and i-made to be- time and this big scary thing, and i made to be frightened and i was made to be frightened to and i was made to be frightened re-an— and i was made to be frightened re-an men— and i was made to be frightened re-an men-my- and i was made to be frightened to-an inch-my life.- to within an inch of my life. i udd— to within an inch of my life. i dwd .— to within an inch of my life. i was livid . anyone, quite was livid. anyone, quite nanny,— was livid. anyone, quite frankly, didn't frankly, that didn't lock themselves— frankly, that didn't lock themselves-a. frankly, that didn't lock- themselves- a heartbeat themselves down in a heartbeat neeaaee— themselves down in a heartbeat becauseiwanted_ themselves down in a heartbeat becauseiwanted it— themselves down in a heartbeat because wanted it all to be because i wanted it all to be nar— because i wanted it all to be over. but then— because i wanted it all to be over. but then it— because i wanted it all to be over. but then it very quickly beame— over. but then it very quickly became apparent to me that this is became apparent to me that this re-wnar— became apparent to me that this re-wnarinawe— became apparent to me that this is-what.have been- became apparent to me that this is what have been to is not what we have been led to renewe— is not what we have been led to nedrewe-wnar- is not what we have been led to believe-what it- is not what we have been led to believe -what it is- believe. it's not what it is aaewng— believe. it's not what it is aaewnglre— believe. it's not what it is cracking-to be.- believe. it's not what it is cracking to be. and it was it cracking up to be. and it was it r— cracking up to be. and it was it r round— cracking up to be. and it was it was i found it— cracking up to be. and it was it was i found it so— cracking up to be. and it was it was i found it so appalling that were— was i found it so appalling that mere-ne— was i found it so appalling that there-no regard— was i found it so appalling that there-no regard at- was i found it so appalling that there no regard at in there was no regard at all. in fact— there was no regard at all. in race were— there was no regard at all. in fact, there - a _ there was no regard at all. in fact, there a blatant fact, there was a blatant dreregard— fact, there was a blatant disregard anything else other disregard of anything else other anam— disregard of anything else other man cowa— disregard of anything else other than covid, whether it was aeepde-e— than covid, whether it was people's education on people's menrad— people's education on people's mental health,— people's education on people's mental health, people, economic circumstances— mental health, people, economic circumstances , the— mental health, people, economic circumstances , the economic circumstances, the economic circumstances— circumstances, the economic circumstances of _ circumstances, the economic circumstances of the country, mew— circumstances of the country, rnew — circumstances of the country, anew twea— circumstances of the country, they were just it— circumstances of the country, they were just it was all disregarded— they were just it was all disregarded for an obsession an wrrn— disregarded for an obsession an mm are— disregarded for an obsession an with this ailment.— disregarded for an obsession an with this ailment. and yes, i knew— with this ailment. and yes, i knew rnar— with this ailment. and yes, i know that people very sadly lost merr— know that people very sadly lost rnerr twee.— know that people very sadly lost their lives. and— know that people very sadly lost their lives. and yes, i know rnar— their lives. and yes, i know an people_ their lives. and yes, i know that people suffer to this day. i that people suffer to this day. r am— that people suffer to this day. r am ne— that people suffer to this day. r am a— that people suffer to this day. i am one of them.— that people suffer to this day. i am one of them. i have fibromyalgia_ i am one of them. i have fibromyalgia ,_ i am one of them. i have fibromyalgia , which they linked fibromyalgia, which they linked to fibromyalgia, which they linked re deng— fibromyalgia, which they linked re dang card.— fibromyalgia, which they linked to long covid. lost my to long covid. i've lost my sense-smell,- to long covid. i've lost my sense-smell, so- to long covid. i've lost my sense smell, so i'm not sense of smell, so i'm not ending— sense of smell, so i'm not errnng mere— sense of smell, so i'm not sitting here saying it wasn't a wing— sitting here saying it wasn't a thing because— sitting here saying it wasn't a thing because lot of thing because for a lot of deede— thing because for a lot of peepdelwae. — thing because for a lot of people was. and for lot of people it was. and for a lot of emer— people it was. and for a lot of erner people_ people it was. and for a lot of other people it— people it was. and for a lot of other people it wasn't. but i mer— other people it wasn't. but i ma rnrnw— other people it wasn't. but i just think this— other people it wasn't. but i just think this whole kind of inquiryr— just think this whole kind of rngwrrw r— just think this whole kind of rngwrrw r rind— just think this whole kind of inquiry, i find it— just think this whole kind of inquiry, i find it a little bit, if rm— inquiry, i find it a little bit, if i'm honest,— inquiry, i find it a little bit, if i'm honest, connor a little bit if i'm honest, connor a little err-am,— if i'm honest, connor a little arr-am, r—

if i'm honest, connor a little bit-um, i-know- if i'm honest, connor a little bit-um, i-know if. if i'm honest, connor a little bit um, i know if i bit of, um, i don't know if i wand— bit of, um, i don't know if i wanr re— bit of, um, i don't know if i wanr re eaw— bit of, um, i don't know if i wanr re eaw a— bit of, um, i don't know if i want to say a waste of time became— want to say a waste of time became r— want to say a waste of time because i want— want to say a waste of time because i want to respect the people— because i want to respect the people references people that peter references anar— people that peter references rnar-neende. - people that peter references that people. but this that have lost people. but this is that have lost people. but this re gang— that have lost people. but this re gang re— that have lost people. but this re gang re ge— that have lost people. but this re gang re ge en— that have lost people. but this is going to go on forever. well, na— is going to go on forever. well, nar naeer— is going to go on forever. well, not forever,-it's_ is going to go on forever. well, not forever, it's going to not forever, but it's going to bela— not forever, but it's going to beld wen— not forever, but it's going to beld wen dang- not forever, but it's going to be a very long process. it's be for a very long process. it's going— be for a very long process. it's gang-an— be for a very long process. it's going-an absolute- going to cost an absolute nanane— going to cost an absolute nanane ,— going to cost an absolute fortune , and— going to cost an absolute fortune , and i- going to cost an absolute fortune , and i don't really fortune, and i don't really rnrnn— fortune, and i don't really think there'll— fortune, and i don't really think there'll any real think there'll be any real accountability— think there'll be any real accountability at the end of it at accountability at the end of it ar an. — accountability at the end of it ar an. wa — accountability at the end of it at all. no and— accountability at the end of it at all. no and to— accountability at the end of it at all. no r: irrt.

policies, matt, meant that more people nursing homes people in nursing homes were were to covid were vulnerable to covid transmission because the hospitals were full and people flowed out of there and into there rather than doing the protective approach protective shielding approach that guidance place. that was the guidance in place. the before the pandemic guidance before they decided to take neil ferguson's advice and copy china because they could get with because they could get away with it. targeted shielding it. the targeted shielding approach worked. approach would have worked. instead that out instead no, they threw that out and smeared the reputations and they smeared the reputations of scientists from oxford, harvard stanford crazy harvard and stanford as crazy kooks and conspiracy theorists when when they drafted the when they when they drafted the great declaration great barrington declaration that exactly that. if that said exactly that. if we would advice would have followed their advice rather than matt hancock's chris whitty's fauci's people whitty's anthony fauci's people would today and they would be alive today and they should face consequences for that see, agree. and let's that. see, i agree. and let's talk consequences.- ragttnt; and let's talk consequences. costs a; ”cc; and let's talk consequences. costs by the way,— talk consequences. costs by the waw r— talk consequences. costs by the way, i-mentioned- talk consequences. costs by the way, i mentioned this is way, i just mentioned this is going— way, i just mentioned this is gang-ae— way, i just mentioned this is goinglbe a— way, i just mentioned this is going be a costly affair. going to be a costly affair. ever— going to be a costly affair. over-million.- going to be a costly affair. over million. this over £100 million. this investigation- over £100 million. this investigation has cost. so far. and— investigation has cost. so far. and mar— investigation has cost. so far. and rnar re— investigation has cost. so far. and that is just— investigation has cost. so far. and that is just going to go up. x x and that is just going to go up. x x x.— and that is just going to go up. x x a. r— and that is just going to go up. x x a. r dam-r— and that is just going to go up. x x x. i don't even— and that is just going to go up. x x x. i don't even think anyone nar— x x x. i don't even think anyone and a— x x x. i don't even think anyone can even put a cost— x x x. i don't even think anyone can even put a cost on it. but wnar— can even put a cost on it. but wnar enaard— can even put a cost on it. but what should be— can even put a cost on it. but what should be the outcome? do you what should be the outcome? do wan rnrnk— what should be the outcome? do you think there— what should be the outcome? do you think there should be armrnar— you think there should be criminal prosecutions if people aeraarw— criminal prosecutions if people actually negligent actually were grossly negligent or conducted— actually were grossly negligent

or conducted gross misconduct in rerme— or conducted gross misconduct in rerme an— or conducted gross misconduct in rerme an merr— or conducted gross misconduct in terms of their conduct during rnree — terms of their conduct during rnree wa— terms of their conduct during died an .— terms of their conduct during died an . r— terms of their conduct during this? no , i don't- terms of their conduct during this? \rtr r:rtrt c terms of their conduct during this? \rrtr r:rtrt c te: trctrtt; this? no, i don't think there should be. and i think it's very unlikely there would be criminal prosecutions, because i think you pose like quite a fascinating question really about what is the purpose of inquiry as well when it costs so money, i think to learn the money, i think it's to learn the lessons. but, you know, i disagree with an lot . the disagree with an awful lot. the conservative did conservative government did and have , especially in covid. have done, especially in covid. and not a supporter of matt and i'm not a supporter of matt hancock in any way, but these are human beings facing incredibly difficult compromises and trade offs. and they clearly lacked the preparation. i think one of the purposes of the inquiry is we are as inquiry is that we are as a nation, a government, better nation, as a government, better informed around in informed next time around in terms of criminal prosecutions. i i'm a barrister, but i mean, i'm not a barrister, but i mean, i'm not a barrister, but i a barrister would tell i think a barrister would tell you that there has to be a realistic prospect of conviction to take anything court , and i to take anything to court, and i can't to take anything to court, and i cant any to take anything to court, and i can't any criminal law that can't see any criminal law that a minister has broken in terms of their national handling of it. however poor some of the judgements were. what about knowingly misleading the public?

how about that? so deliberately aerng— how about that? so deliberately using psychological warfare raerree— using psychological warfare raerree-rne- using psychological warfare tactics the public into tactics to scare the public into erawrng— tactics to scare the public into erawrng named— tactics to scare the public into staying home? hancock staying home? matt hancock rearing— staying home? matt hancock texting_behind. staying home? matt hancock texting behind the texting nick clegg behind the scenes particular scenes to silence particular narrarrwee— scenes to silence particular nararrwee a— scenes to silence particular narratives or particular accounts on- narratives or particular accounts on facebook. know accounts on facebook. we know the - ministration - accounts on facebook. we know the ministration did the the biden ministration did the eamem—aeei same thing with that massive rnrereenr— same thing with that massive intercept release. what about warr— intercept release. what about matt hancock— intercept release. what about matt hancock trying to say, can we—na- we arrest nigel farage for enawrng— we arrest nigel farage for enawrng-naal we arrest nigel farage for- showing-pub despite showing up at the pub despite nawng—nre- showing up at the pub despite having—his aidei having an affair with his aide in having an affair with his aide nuance— having an affair with his aide in-office being- having an affair with his aide in office being caught on in his office being caught on television?— in his office being caught on television? _to| in his office being caught on. television?_to let television? are you going to let rnem — television? are you going to let rnem -wrrn— television? are you going to let them with practising them get away with practising ame-and— them get away with practising one and terrorising the one rule and terrorising the anten— one rule and terrorising the. british _wnatg british public? and then what? t hey— british public? and then what? mew—ear- british public? and then what? they _ scot free? i british public? and then what?i they _ scot free? how they just got off scot free? how is they just got off scot free? how re anar— they just got off scot free? how is that learning— they just got off scot free? how is that learning the lessons? cama— is that learning the lessons? connor that's— is that learning the lessons? connor that's a _ is that learning the lessons? connor that's a bit— is that learning the lessons? connor that's a bit of- is that learning the lessons? connor that's a bit of a rant. i'm not police. ijust connor that's a bit of a rant. i'm not police. i just gave i'm not the police. i just gave you i'm not the police. i just gave wan multiple— rt.rt; i just gave you multiple examples. c you multiple examples. it's a bit you multiple examples. it's a an ar— you multiple examples. it's a an ad a— you multiple examples. it's a an ad a ram— you multiple examples. it's a bit of a rant and— you multiple examples. it's a bit of a rant and i'm- you multiple examples. it's a bit of a rant and i'm not in charge of the crown prosecution, so it's not up me to deliver so it's not up to me to deliver justice on people. but we're asking justice on people. but we're aenrng wan— justice on people. but we're aenrng wan n— justice on people. but we're asking you if you— rt.rt; t but we're asking you if you should. i dam-r— asking you if you should. i dan-r rnrnk— asking you if you should. i don't think you're a barrister, mare,— don't think you're a barrister, mare, na— don't think you're a barrister, mare, ea wan— don't think you're a barrister, mate, do you think they should eanwere — mate, do you think they should eanwere van— mate, do you think they should convict? you made— mate, do you think they should convict? /rtrc. : mate, do you think they should convict? t/rtrc. : convict? you made the point that politicians public. politicians mislead the public. it's criminal offence, is it's not a criminal offence, is it? well, you what some it? well, you know what some wadd— it? well, you know what some wand-dr— it? well, you know what some would-it should- would argue it should be, aeeaaee— would argue it should be, because that because one of the things that i do because one of the things that i da wan— because one of the things that i da warny arawe— because one of the things that i do worry about, actually, quite nanny,— do worry about, actually, quite nanny, re— do worry about, actually, quite frankly, is that— do worry about, actually, quite frankly, is that we're going to enend— frankly, is that we're going to enend —knawe- frankly, is that we're going to spend knows how many spend god only knows how many yeare—rnar-

spend god only knows how many yearrne—rnar- spend god only knows how many yearthe other.-that- spend god only knows how many yearthe other. it's that spend god only knows how many yearthe other. it's all that spend god only knows how many yearthe other. it's all going: spend god only knows how many yearthe other. it's all going to and the other. it's all going to be and the other. it's all going to relen— and the other. it's all going to nelarr an— and the other. it's all going to nelarr an a— and the other. it's all going to belbit of a like— and the other. it's all going to belbit of a like a— and the other. it's all going to belbit of a like a i- and the other. it's all going to be bit of a like a i don't be a bit of a like a i don't ma,— be a bit of a like a i don't knaw, yaw— be a bit of a like a i don't know, you can— be a bit of a like a i don't know, you can call it a kangaroo earn. — know, you can call it a kangaroo earn. van— know, you can call it a kangaroo earn. van an— know, you can call it a kangaroo court. you can call— know, you can call it a kangaroo court. you can call it whatever you— court. you can call it whatever yaw wand— court. you can call it whatever yaw wanr ra— court. you can call it whatever yaw wanr dale— court. you can call it whatever you want to-it, but- court. you can call it whatever you want to it, but i think you want to call it, but i think it you want to call it, but i think n wru— you want to call it, but i think n wrd ae— you want to call it, but i think n wrd we a— you want to call it, but i think it will be a pointless waste of rrme. — it will be a pointless waste of rrme. inad— it will be a pointless waste of rime-ina gang- it will be a pointless waste of time. not going to bring time. it's not going to bring aad— time. it's not going to bring back aeaade— time. it's not going to bring back people lost their back people that lost their raved— back people that lost their raved-ne— back people that lost their loved - it's not - back people that lost their loved it's not going to loved ones. it's not going to draw—a- loved ones. it's not going to allow—a funeral| allow you to have a funeral wnere— allow you to have a funeral wnere aeaade— allow you to have a funeral where people can actually attend and where people can actually attend ndne-— where people can actually attend and-one another.- and comfort one another. and dre— and comfort one another. and rte-gang— and comfort one another. and it's-goinglhelp- and comfort one another. and it's going help people it's not going to help people wnaee— it's not going to help people whose mental— it's not going to help people whose mental health and physical nearrn— whose mental health and physical health—battered. health was absolutely battered by health was absolutely battered ay—raekdawnel by the ridiculous lockdowns, the aradanged— by the ridiculous lockdowns, the. araranged—nad prolonged lockdowns that we had aver—and- prolonged lockdowns that we had aver—and n- prolonged lockdowns that we had aver—and n yaw| over and over again. and if you aek— over and over again. and if you aek-wawrd— over and over again. and if you aek-wawdd ae— over and over again. and if you ask would be looking at ask me, i would be looking at rnyrng— ask me, i would be looking at rryrng-eame-al trying to have some form of armrnar— trying to have some form of criminal charges— trying to have some form of criminal charges i could get criminal charges if i could get away— criminal charges if i could get away wrrn— criminal charges if i could get away wrrn n.— criminal charges if i could get away man in r— criminal charges if i could get away with it. i can— criminal charges if i could get away with it. i can hear a maeewae-r- away with it. i can hear a massive of applause, by massive round of applause, by the massive round of applause, by ame-ae— massive round of applause, by the-as fascinating- massive round of applause, by the as fascinating as the way, as fascinating as i rnrnk— the way, as fascinating as i rnrnk r— the way, as fascinating as i rnrnk r am— the way, as fascinating as i rnrnk r r— the way, as fascinating as i think i am, i think that was warranty— think i am, i think that was probably aimed— think i am, i think that was probably aimed at nigel farage, wnae— probably aimed at nigel farage, wna-e twa— probably aimed at nigel farage, wna-e twer-rne— probably aimed at nigel farage, who's just the building who's just entered the building in-background. _ who's just entered the buildingi in-background. -to in the background. can't wait to tell in the background. can't wait to red—me- in the background. can't wait to tell—the trick- tell you all about the trick awn— tell you all about the trick erwn rnar— tell you all about the trick stuff that we _ tell you all about the trick stuff that we experienced this arremaan. — stuff that we experienced this afternoon. make _ stuff that we experienced this afternoon. make your eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acanioon. make your eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell. make your eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell you. ze your eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell you. i your eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell you. i also eyes water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell you. i also want water. stuff that we experienced this acan tell you. i also want to ater. i can tell you. i also want to raw— i can tell you. i also want to raw ra— i can tell you. i also want to raw ra yaw— i can tell you. i also want to talk to you about— i can tell you. i also want to talk to you about just stop oil. i talk to you about just stop oil. r gwe— talk to you about just stop oil. r gwe aedrr— talk to you about just stop oil. i give credit where— talk to you about just stop oil. i give credit where it's due. rrnady— i give credit where it's due. . rrnauy—aerng finally everyone, action being wnen.— finally everyone, action being taken—arrested.

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\r 3rtrr: hello there. welcome news radio. hello there. welcome aad— news radio. hello there. welcome back ra— news radio. hello there. welcome back ra newaea— news radio. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co— news radio. hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co me— \r 3rtrr: hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co me michelle wewaerny— back to dewbs& co me michelle wewaerny nrr— back to dewbs& co me michelle dewberry till 7:00. _ back to dewbs& co me michelle dewberry till 7:00. alongside wnrer— dewberry till 7:00. alongside me, writer and— dewberry till 7:00. alongside me, writer and political commentator- me, writer and political commentator conor tomlinson and name— commentator conor tomlinson and name edrra— commentator conor tomlinson and name edrra ar— commentator conor tomlinson and former editor of labourlist peren— former editor of labourlist peter edwards— former editor of labourlist peter edwards .- former editor of labourlist peter edwards . lots of you peter edwards. lots of you gerrrng— peter edwards. lots of you gerrrng m— peter edwards. lots of you getting in touch about that cowa— getting in touch about that covrn rngwrny— getting in touch about that covrn rngwrny .— getting in touch about that covid inquiry. graham says mps enawrd— covid inquiry. graham says mps enawrd ae— covid inquiry. graham says mps should be prosecuted if they're nawnd— should be prosecuted if they're nawnd ra— should be prosecuted if they're found to have— should be prosecuted if they're found to have done something wrang— found to have done something wrang and— found to have done something wrang and n— found to have done something wrong and if we— found to have done something wrong and if we don't, they will do wrong and if we don't, they will da dr— wrong and if we don't, they will da n again.— wrong and if we don't, they will do it again. and— wrong and if we don't, they will do it again. and this is the key araarem — do it again. and this is the key problem though— do it again. and this is the key problem though graham because wnen— problem though graham because wnen-n— problem though graham because wnen-n rney— problem though graham because when if they found to when you say if they found to nave— when you say if they found to nave dame— when you say if they found to have done something wrong, i wawrd—we-we- have done something wrong, i. would-we've-been would argue and we've just been ewggeerrng— would argue and we've just been suggesting perhaps law suggesting that perhaps the law as suggesting that perhaps the law aelerande— suggesting that perhaps the law aelerande ar— suggesting that perhaps the law aslstands at the— suggesting that perhaps the law as stands at the moment as it stands at the moment wawddn-r— as it stands at the moment wouldn't-that- as it stands at the moment wouldn't-that .. as it stands at the moment- wouldn't-that . gillian wouldn't allow for that. gillian eaye— wouldn't allow for that. gillian eaye-r— wouldn't allow for that. gillian eaye-r wru— wouldn't allow for that. gillian says,-i will never- wouldn't allow for that. gillian says, i will never forgive says, no, i will never forgive naneaek. — says, no, i will never forgive hancock. she _ says, no, i will never forgive hancock. she doesn't believe mar— hancock. she doesn't believe rnar ne— hancock. she doesn't believe rnar ne re— hancock. she doesn't believe that he is sorry— hancock. she doesn't believe that he is sorry ._ hancock. she doesn't believe that he is sorry . she hancock. she doesn't believe that he is sorry. she philip eaye— that he is sorry. she philip eaye rney-re— that he is sorry. she philip says they're frightened. the are — says they're frightened. the are awr— says they're frightened. the me am a— says they're frightened. the life out of public. but as time wenr— life out of public. but as time wenr an— life out of public. but as time wenr rne— life out of public. but as time went on, the lies— life out of public. but as time went on, the lies were more exnaeed— went on, the lies were more emaeed .— went on, the lies were more emaeed . adan— went on, the lies were more exposed . alan on twitter has exposed. alan on twitter has eard— exposed. alan on twitter has said michelle,— exposed. alan on twitter has said michelle, you've just said and— said michelle, you've just said and yaw-re— said michelle, you've just said and you're quoting me directly, mar— and you're quoting me directly, rnar many— and you're quoting me directly, rnar many a— and you're quoting me directly, that many of the— and you're quoting me directly, that many of the problems today can that many of the problems today ae— that many of the problems today ae winked— that many of the problems today can be linked to— that many of the problems today can be linked to lockdown. dawne— can be linked to lockdown. wawre eayrng— can be linked to lockdown. you're saying that my words, mandre— you're saying that my words, michelle, your— you're saying that 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very-mar— . and it's people like you. the very-rnar-dk- . and it's people like you. the very-that-uk will. very reason that the uk will end— very reason that the uk will still-bickering— very reason that the uk will still bickering over of still be bickering over all of me— still be bickering over all of date wnen— still be bickering over all of this when-of- still be bickering over all of this when -of the i still be bickering over all of this when of the world this when the rest of the world nae— this when the rest of the world nae-n — this when the rest of the world nae-n iaran- this when the rest of the world has-on.-alan, in- this when the rest of the world has on. alan, in the has moved on. so, alan, in the weak,— has moved on. so, alan, in the mean r— has moved on. so, alan, in the mean rtwer— has moved on. so, alan, in the break, i just took— has moved on. so, alan, in the break, i just took about 30s and i'll break, i just took about 30s and r-d-wnar— break, i just took about 30s and r-d-wnar r— break, i just took about 30s and i'll-what i think- break, i just took about 30s and i'll what i think you i'll tell you what i think you unk— i'll tell you what i think you can link almost— i'll tell you what i think you can link almost to the can link almost directly to the pandemic— can link almost directly to the pandemic -you've. can link almost directly to the pandemic you've got pandemic response. you've got me— pandemic response. you've got ante—entere- this mental health crisis, ywe— this mental health crisis, you've physical health you've got physical health arabdeme— problems. you cannot access the wne— problems. you cannot access the wnslrnre— problems. you cannot access the nhs-this country. _ problems. you cannot access the nhs this country. you're nhs in this country. you're rmrarran. — nhs in this country. you're rmrarran. r— nhs in this country. you're inflation. i don't believe. wed,— inflation. i don't believe. wed, yaw— inflation. i don't believe. well, you can— inflation. i don't believe. well, you can try and tell me amemee,— well, you can try and tell me otherwise, but— well, you can try and tell me otherwise, but actually printing maney— otherwise, but actually printing maney-re— otherwise, but actually printing maney-re gang- otherwise, but actually printing money is going out of money like it is going out of raenran. — money like it is going out of fashion. the— money like it is going out of fashion. the change in work eame— fashion. the change in work ernrelrnre— fashion. the change in work ethic this country. see, ethic in this country. see, deade— ethic in this country. see, aeaare wand— ethic in this country. see, people want to - ethic in this country. see, people want to work from home all people want to work from home arr-daw— people want to work from home add-raw aan-r- people want to work from home all-you can't get- all the time. you can't get customer-at- all the time. you can't get customer at most customer service at most neeeeee— customer service at most businesses love nor money. businesses for love nor money. we— businesses for love nor money. rne padded— businesses for love nor money. the political-that. the political instability that- we've—ministers we've had more prime ministers rnan— we've had more prime ministers rnan nae— we've had more prime ministers rnan nae-nar— we've had more prime ministers than i've hot dinners over than i've had hot dinners over rneee— than i've had hot dinners over rneee raer— than i've had hot dinners over these last few— than i've had hot dinners over these last few months and years . raiding— these last few months and years . failing education— these last few months and years . failing education it . failing education when it ra— . failing education when it comes to children. i could go on and— comes to children. i could go on and an— comes to children. i could go on and an and— comes to children. i could go on and an and an— comes to children. i could go on and on and on. and— comes to children. i could go on and on and on. and this is why i feed— and on and on. and this is why i feed ea— and on and on. and this is why i feel so passionately— and on and on. and this is why i feel so passionately about this, aeaee— feel so passionately about this, aeaee rne— feel so passionately about this, because the problems that we experienced — because the problems that we experienced today and will do for experienced today and will do far gaadneee— experienced today and will do for goodness knows how long in my mind— for goodness knows how long in my mind an— for goodness knows how long in my mind can, can and should be away— my mind can, can and should be actually linked— my mind can, can and should be actually linked back to the eenaee ra— actually linked back to the response to covid in this eawnrny— response to covid in this country anyway , we'll agree to country anyway, we'll agree to dieagree— country anyway, we'll agree to dieagree. zi— country anyway, we'll agree to disagree. 27 eco— country anyway, we'll agree to

disagree. 27 eco activists were arreered— disagree. 27 eco activists were arrested today— disagree. 27 eco activists were arrested today for— disagree. 27 eco activists were arrested today for spraying nainr— arrested today for spraying aaim ae— arrested today for spraying paint over an— arrested today for spraying paint over an energy company's mead— paint over an energy company's nead anae— paint over an energy company's head office in— paint over an energy company's head office in london. they say it's head office in london. they say ir-e adi— head office in london. they say it's all because— head office in london. they say it's all because they're inwawed— it's all because they're involved with - it's all because they're involved with a pipeline in east africa.— involved with a pipeline in east africa nae— involved with a pipeline in east africa we gar— involved with a pipeline in east africa. i've got to— involved with a pipeline in east africa. i've got to say , i don't africa. i've got to say, i don't knaw— africa. i've got to say, i don't knaw wnar-e— africa. i've got to say, i don't know what's going on with the earning— know what's going on with the aaiieing in— know what's going on with the policing in this— know what's going on with the policing in this country at the manem— policing in this country at the manem awr— policing in this country at the moment, but they seem to have moment, but they do seem to have had moment, but they do seem to have nadliirrie— moment, but they do seem to have hadllittle word— moment, but they do seem to have hadllittle word with— had a little word with themselves- had a little word with themselves because i've been naming— ranting on this program and ieyand— ranting on this program and beyond _while. ranting on this program and. beyond _while now beyond for quite a while now mar— beyond for quite a while now rnar ari— beyond for quite a while now rnar ad a— beyond for quite a while now that all of these— beyond for quite a while now that all of these just stop oil neiiere. — that all of these just stop oil aeiiere. iney— that all of these just stop oil pellets. they-to - that all of these just stop oil pellets. they to do pellets. they seem to do wnarewer— pellets. they seem to do- whatever_ disrupting whatever they want, disrupting anyne— whatever they want, disrupting. anyane—inra anyone from anything going into art anyone from anything going into an—rraening- art galleries and trashing the grace,— art galleries and trashing the grace—andi art galleries and trashing the. grace—and rne place, doing anything. and the gaine— place, doing anything. and the eanee-ra— place, doing anything. and the police -to watch- place, doing anything. and the police to watch on and police just seem to watch on and rye— police just seem to watch on and rye narieed— police just seem to watch on and rye narieed a— police just seem to watch on and i've noticed a few— police just seem to watch on and i've noticed a few times now rneee— i've noticed a few times now over these last— i've noticed a few times now over these last few days that away— over these last few days that actually - have - over these last few days that actually have been actually there have been arrests. - beeni actually there have been- arrests. -been quite arrests. they have been quite rapid— arrests. they have been quite rapid responses.— arrests. they have been quite rapid responses. and makes rapid responses. and it makes me very—awr- rapid responses. and it makes me very—raw rnen- very happy indeed. but then i nave— very happy indeed. but then i nave ra— very happy indeed. but then i nave ra nreee— very happy indeed. but then i have to press pause and think, wnar— have to press pause and think, wnar ie— have to press pause and think, wnar ie rnie— have to press pause and think, what is this whole— have to press pause and think, what is this whole kind of dimare— what is this whole kind of climate situation all about when it climate situation all about when ir-ra— climate situation all about when it-to-protesting?- it comes to the protesting? neaee— it comes to the protesting? because cause— it comes to the protesting? because cause so many because cause there's so many examinee— because cause there's so many examniee-aii— because cause there's so many examples-all just- because cause there's so many examples all just being examples of it all just being a bit examples of it all just being a air—canna- examples of it all just being a bit—connor.wel bit ridiculous. connor so we rain— bit ridiculous. connor so we rain-me- bit ridiculous. connor so we talk-the time,- bit ridiculous. connor so we. talk -the time, people talk about all the time, people not talk about all the time, people mar-naweee— talk about all the time, people not-houseslthis- not having houses in this canny.— not having houses in thisi country._build not having houses in this- country._build more country. we need to build more nmee— country. we need to build more nameelrnen— country. we need to build more nameelrnen i— country. we need to build more homes. then i found out in homes. but then i found out in newn— homes. but then i found out in wewan wann— homes. but then i found out in devon, north devon council, all rney-we— devon, north devon council, all rney-we-awr— devon, north devon council, all rney-we-awr rne— devon, north devon council, all they've put the blockers they've just put the blockers i— they've just put the blockers i mink— they've just put the blockers on, i think it— they've just put the blockers on, i think it was— they've just put the blockers on, i think it was 80 properties

being— on, i think it was 80 properties being developed— on, i think it was 80 properties being developed because a being developed because of a tad— being developed because of a tad den— being developed because of a flood risk in— being developed because of a flood risk in 2105.— being developed because of a flood risk in 2105. they're eaying— flood risk in 2105. they're eaying naw— flood risk in 2105. they're saying now they're factoring in all saying now they're factoring in add me— saying now they're factoring in all the climate— saying now they're factoring in all the climate madness and weing— all the climate madness and weing ir— all the climate madness and weing ir ra— all the climate madness and using it to block— all the climate madness and using it to block property aaiiey— using it to block property aaiiey in— using it to block property policy in this— using it to block property policy in this country. it all seems a little— policy in this country. it all seems a little bit far fetched to seems a little bit far fetched ra — seems a little bit far fetched ra wean.— seems a little bit far fetched to me. yeah, it's- seems a little bit far fetched to me. / ”rtrtic seems a little bit far fetched to me. it/rtuti t ”rtrtic crtitg to me. yeah, it's real tangible suffering of people who are going to be priced out of car ownership, who are going to be pnced ownership, who are going to be priced out of home ownership, energy bills and the like for some abstract hypothetical , as some abstract hypothetical, as yet unconfirmed apocalyptic worst case scenario where the world turns into a fireball after 2050, i find it really ironic, though, that these activists are spraying the headquarters of banks or energy companies because the energy companies because the energy companies and the banks are actually signed up to environmental, social and governance it's that governance scores. it's that corporate system corporate social credit system pushed the un and the pushed by the un and the environmental aspect is all about decarbonisation and sustainability. lovely buzzwords if they're actually done properly. what happened with exxonmobil, which was one of the first companies to go over first oil companies to go over to esg, was that blackrock got

together the world's largest hedge fund, an activist group, appointed them as members on their board, their lead their board, as their lead shareholders. they pushed off the and made them the other members and made them divest fossil fuels divest away from fossil fuels and into renewables. and what ends happening they're ends up happening is, as they're protesting this pipeline protesting this, this pipeline in american energy in africa, as american energy companies are no longer investing in oil energy prices will more expensive, will get more expensive, particularly developing particularly in the developing world, the world, which need it because the renewables up to snuff renewables aren't up to snuff yet. global gas yet. the global oil and gas market become constricted market will become constricted and russia will have lots more people coming to them and they'll lots more money. and they'll get lots more money. and if to renewables, guess if we turn to renewables, guess who we're going to have to buy from china the african from china and the african countries china's control. from china and the african countriesgoing china's control. from china and the african countriesgoing to iina's control. from china and the african countriesgoing to bei's control. from china and the african countriesgoing to be payingrol. from china and the african countriesgoing to be paying much so we're going to be paying much more energy just because more for our energy just because phoebe quite phoebe and tarquin would quite like clip on like to have a nice clip on twitter. yeah. and also, if you iaak— twitter. yeah. and also, if you iaak ar— twitter. yeah. and also, if you look at places— twitter. yeah. and also, if you look at places like— yeah. and also, if you look at places like sweden, rney-re— look at places like sweden, they're they're _ look at places like sweden, they're they're starting to roll aad—mei- they're they're starting to roll. back—their climate back from some of their climate rangere— back from some of their climate rangere-ir— back from some of their climate targets-it comes- back from some of their climate targets-it comes to- back from some of their climate targets it comes to things targets when it comes to things dike— targets when it comes to things| dike—da like renewables. peter where do you like renewables. peter where do yaw-ire— like renewables. peter where do yaw-ire — like renewables. peter where do you-it? sweden's- like renewables. peter where do you-it? sweden's got you stand on it? sweden's got a very different economy. i mean, climate change is happening. connon climate change is happening. connor, said it was connor, i think, said it was unconfirmed, the unconfirmed, so he'd be the worst was worst case scenario was unconfirmed. think, well, unconfirmed. so i think, well, i

think might be running think connor might be running foul of the misleading the pubuc foul of the misleading the public law. he was talking about before break. the world's before the break. the world's not before the break. the world's mar-ame— before the break. the world's not-come a fireball.| not going to come a fireball. i-m — not going to come a fireball. in very— not going to come a fireball. i'm very interested in what naaaened— i'm very interested in what- happened—because happened at canary wharf because as happened at canary wharf because ae—eeewriry- as there's tonnes of security mere— as there's tonnes of security mere-canary— as there's tonnes of security there canary wharf group there by canary wharf group across-estate— there by canary wharf group across-estate-by- there by canary wharf group across estate by the across the estate and by the way,— across the estate and by the way—ariawed- across the estate and by the way, _ allowed to i way, people are allowed to dieagree— way, people are allowed to disagree-this- way, people are allowed to disagree this gross kind of disagree with this gross kind of earadyemie— disagree with this gross kind of cataclysmic like _ disagree with this gross kind of cataclysmic like the world is going— cataclysmic like the world is gaing ra— cataclysmic like the world is gaing ra end. — cataclysmic like the world is going to end. 3 cataclysmic like the world is going to end. grtr t; going to end. everyone's going to all going to set on fire. it's all going to set on fire. it's all going to you see this kind of to when you see this kind of worst case scenarios that are often projected, if people are allowed that. allowed to disagree with that. yes. we have yes. and that's why we have enawe— yes. and that's why we have enawe iike — yes. and that's why we have shows like this— yes. and that's why we have shows like this to disagree. diaer— shows like this to disagree. we a— shows like this to disagree. most of-case- shows like this to disagree.- most of-case scenarios most of the worst case scenarios nae— most of the worst case scenarios nae-ra— most of the worst case scenarios i-we-ra ae— most of the worst case scenarios i've-to be around- i've seen tend to be around riaading— i've seen tend to be around flooding rather— i've seen tend to be around flooding rather than apocalyptic nireiaiie— flooding rather than apocalyptic fireballs-rising,- fireballs and water rising, aaniewiariy— particularly in places like newar— particularly in places like devon, devon— particularly in places like devon, devon that on the devon, devon that are on the aerianeny— devon, devon that are on the aerianenylrne— devon, devon that are on the periphery the landmass. but periphery of the landmass. but but periphery of the landmass. but awr—rne- periphery of the landmass. but but—the events. periphery of the landmass. buti but—the events in but to go back to the events in canary— but to go back to the events in canary-raday. — but to go back to the events in canary-raday. sa- but to go back to the events in canary-today. so i- but to go back to the events in canary today. so i think canary wharf today. so i think and— canary wharf today. so i think and die— canary wharf today. so i think and die ie— canary wharf today. so i think and this is an— canary wharf today. so i think and this is an arrest, not a araeeewrian— and this is an arrest, not a prosecution lthis- and this is an arrest, not a prosecution this stage , but prosecution at this stage, but if prosecution at this stage, but in-are— prosecution at this stage, but if-are breaking- prosecution at this stage, but if are breaking the law, if people are breaking the law, rney— if people are breaking the law, rney enawid— if people are breaking the law, they should be— if people are breaking the law, they should be arrested. i'm amaed— they should be arrested. i'm amazed that— they should be arrested. i'm amazed that it— they should be arrested. i'm amazed that it managed to happen aeaee— amazed that it managed to happen because there's— amazed that it managed to happen because there's a— amazed that it managed to happen because there's a lot of eeewriry— because there's a lot of security around canary wharf and aiwiaweiy— security around canary wharf and aiwiaweiy-are— security around canary wharf and obviously are skyscrapers obviously there are skyscrapers mere—awn- there that have their own eeewriry— there that have their own- eeewriry—and ea security teams and so on and so an.-inerediiie.— security teams and so on and so on.-incredible. and- security teams and so on and so on. incredible. and perhaps security teams and so on and so osuspectrcredible. and perhaps security teams and so on and so osuspect itedible. and perhaps security teams and so on and so osuspect it maye. and perhaps security teams and so on and so osuspect it may endid perhaps security teams and so on and so

osuspect it may end up)erhaps security teams and so on and so osuspect it may end up asiaps i suspect it may end up as eenwing— i suspect it may end up as eerwing ae— i suspect it may end up as serving as encouragement that it was serving as encouragement that it aide— serving as encouragement that it aide ra— serving as encouragement that it was able to happen . 27 was able to happen. 27 protesters, _ was able to happen. 27 protesters, one newspaper calls rnem — protesters, one newspaper calls rnem ea— protesters, one newspaper calls them eco zealots,— protesters, one newspaper calls them eco zealots, but 27 arareerere— them eco zealots, but 27 protesters being able to get ima— protesters being able to get inra a— protesters being able to get inra a wig— protesters being able to get into a big energy company and do a arareer— into a big energy company and do a graded ie— into a big energy company and do a graded ie ide— into a big energy company and do a protest is it's baffling that it a protest is it's baffling that ir naaaene— a protest is it's baffling that ir naaaene .— a protest is it's baffling that it happens . the— a protest is it's baffling that it happens . the real worry to me it happens. the real worry to me is it happens. the real worry to me ie aerwaiiy— it happens. the real worry to me is actually people— it happens. the real worry to me is actually people lying down on the is actually people lying down on me raad— is actually people lying down on the road stopping— is actually people lying down on the road stopping vehicles and aaniewiar— the road stopping vehicles and particular ambulances is to make a nadirieai— particular ambulances is to make a political point— particular ambulances is to make a political point because if anar— a political point because if that ambulance is going to save someone who's had a heart attack andeameane-— someone who's had a heart attack and-someone you— someone who's had a heart attack and someone you love, you and is someone you love, you dam-r— and is someone you love, you dan-r wand— and is someone you love, you don't want them _ and is someone you love, you don't want them stopped by don't want them being stopped by a-geerwre.— don't want them being stopped by a-geerwrelweii- don't want them being stopped by a-gestureiwell, i- a political gesture. well, i drink— a political gesture. well, i think they've think it's great that they've been of the roads been shoved out of the roads now. i think should have now. and i think it should have happened a long time ago. but what's going on over in labour land this? because at once land about this? because at once upon was this £28 upon a time there was this £28 billion commitment, this promise that spent all that was going to be spent all year year or whatever year or every year or whatever it was on stuff. there's it was on green stuff. there's been bit of a on that. been a bit of a u—turn on that. so going on? that's so what's going on? that's right. and ithink- grtr t; rtrt7 that's right. and think labour has right. and i think labour has dame— right. and i think labour has dame-rignr— right. and i think labour has done right thing. labour done the right thing. labour wawid— done the right thing. labour would probably— done the right thing. labour would probably say it evolved its would probably say it evolved ire—eraned- would probably say it evolved its—started off| its position, but it started off by its position, but it started off iy-wawid- its position, but it started off by-would spend- its position, but it started off by would spend if by saying it would spend if deeded,— by saying it would spend if elected, £28— by saying it would spend if elected, £28 billion a year from the elected, £28 billion a year from rne-a— elected, £28 billion a year fromi the-a-government the start of a labour government and— the start of a labour government and men— the start of a labour government and then rachel— the start of a labour government and then rachel reeves clarified

aiawr—aga— and then rachel reeves clarified aaawr—aga rnar- and then rachel reeves clarified about ago that they'd about two weeks ago that they'd awiid— about two weeks ago that they'd amid—and- build up to that figure. and mar-e— build up to that figure. and that's because— build up to that figure. and that's because labour is that's because when labour is in aaaaeirian— that's because when labour is in opposition,-number- opposition, the number one tory gawemmenr— opposition, the number one tory government attack— opposition, the number one tory government attack on it will be aiawr— government attack on it will be aaawr waering— government attack on it will be about wasting taxpayers money. and-me — about wasting taxpayers money. and-me aee— about wasting taxpayers money. and the case under and that was the case under carayn— and that was the case under carayn wnen— and that was the case under corbyn when there was a lot of rweriniearian — corbyn when there was a lot of justification for— corbyn when there was a lot of justification for it— corbyn when there was a lot of justification for it and was justification for it and it was area— justification for it and it was aiea rne— justification for it and it was also the-under- justification for it and it was also the under cameron also the case under cameron versus-miliband. - also the case under cameron versus miliband. when versus ed miliband. when i y marry— versus ed miliband. when i y motty statement— versus ed miliband. when i y motty statement in the first grace,— motty statement in the first placer rnen— motty statement in the first placer men-i- motty statement in the firsti place, then - i -the place, then well, i think the defence— place, then well, i think the defence -forward - place, then well, i think the defence forward rachel defence put forward by rachel iaeeee— defence put forward by rachel reeves, which _ defence put forward by rachel reeves, which is— defence put forward by rachel reeves, which is fairly reasonable,- reeves, which is fairly reasonable, is that when they made—me- reasonable, is that when they. made—the economy reasonable, is that when they. madin_the economy reasonable, is that when they madin quite the economy reasonable, is that when they madin quite a the economy reasonable, is that when they madin quite a differentaconomy was in quite a different aaeirian.— was in quite a different- position._alluded to position. and as you alluded to earner,— position. and as you alluded to earlier, we've now— position. and as you alluded to earlier, we've now got very high imiarian. — earlier, we've now got very high imiarian. ia— earlier, we've now got very high inflation. it-made- earlier, we've now got very high inflation. it-made in- earlier, we've now got very high inflation. c : t $702" inflation. it was made in 2021 or something, wasn't it? but now we very high or something, wasn't it? but now we-very high inflation- or something, wasn't it? but now we-very high inflation and. we have very hiin inflation and we have very high inflation and we-eragnaring- we have very high inflation and we stagnating economy. we have a stagnating economy. we-we— we have a stagnating economy. we-we-mae-al we've got two more years of eeanamie-and- we've got two more years of. economic-and-see we've got two more years of- economic-and-see the economic data and we can see the economic recovery from covid. rede— economic recovery from covid. ier-e-re—enrer— economic recovery from covid. let's-re—enter that- let's not re—enter that discussion.— let's not re—enter that - discussion.-bounce let's not re—enter that- discussion.-bounce back let's not re—enter that- disgdpion.-bounce back let's not re—enter that- disgdp is|.-bounce back let's not re—enter that disgdp is incrediblyoounce back let's not re—enter that disgdp is incredibly slow. back in gdp is incredibly slow. vow-re— in gdp is incredibly slow. you're trusting— in gdp is incredibly slow. you're trusting man,- in gdp is incredibly slow. you're trusting man, peter, because give people the because i don't give people the credit yeah, made credit and go, yeah, you made this statement. no, actually, this statement. oh no, actually, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt because economy's the doubt because the economy's evolved rest because evolved and all the rest because in wasn't in in 2021, the economy wasn't in great anyway. and think great shape anyway. and i think people stuff. people just say stuff. it's almost kind of curry favour. so they know that for of they know that for a lot of people, everybody, but for

people, not everybody, but for a lot people, the green stuff, lot of people, the green stuff, the stuff is right on the climate stuff is right on people's so throw people's agenda. so they throw out, we're going to be out, oh yeah, we're going to be the first green chancellor the uk's first green chancellor or whatever the sentence was because know that because then they know that people and people will stop there and go, yeah, tick box. and yeah, i'll tick that box. and actually when you start drilling down and picking apart the detail, doesn't up and detail, it doesn't stack up and they doesn't up they know it doesn't stack up well, ten years ago well, it's nearly ten years ago that cameron said he that david cameron said he wanted lead the greenest wanted to lead the greenest government then when government ever. but then when rney— government ever. but then when rney-aenind— government ever. but then when rney-aenind an— government ever. but then when they-behind on their- they were behind on their dendr— they were behind on their deficit -targets,l they were behind on their. deficit-targets, said deficit reduction targets, said it's deficit reduction targets, said ire—me- deficit reduction targets, said ir-e—rne green- deficit reduction targets, saidi it's—the green crap. it's time to cut the green crap. if it's time to cut the green crap. in yaw— it's time to cut the green crap. in yaw an— it's time to cut the green crap. in yaw eay— it's time to cut the green crap. if you can say that— it's time to cut the green crap. if you can say that at this time of if you can say that at this time ar-sa— if you can say that at this time of-so politicians,- of night. so politicians, aaniewiariy— of night. so politicians, arninniariy— of night. so politicians, arninn rney— of night. so politicians, pthink they talk a good game on i think they talk a good game on environmental— i think they talk a good game on environmental matters, but then end wn— environmental matters, but then end we in— environmental matters, but then end we in a— environmental matters, but then end up in a trade— environmental matters, but then end up in a trade off over awnin— end up in a trade off over public spending because green aaiieiee— public spending because green aaiieiee rend— public spending because green policies tend to— public spending because green policies tend to be expensive in the policies tend to be expensive in ame-reim— policies tend to be expensive in rne-rerm-ir- policies tend to be expensive in the -term,-if they're. the short term, even if they're gaad— the short term, even if they're gaadlwe— the short term, even if they're gaadlwe in— the short term, even if they're gaadlwe in me— the short term, even if they're good us in the run. but good for us in the long run. but a da— good for us in the long run. but a dad a— good for us in the long run. but a dad a readie— good for us in the long run. but a lot of people don't buy into an — a lot of people don't buy into an a— a lot of people don't buy into an a dad— a lot of people don't buy into this. a lot of— a lot of people don't buy into this. a lot of people- a lot of people don't buy into this. a lot of people at home. you mentioned economic turmoil. people struggling to live people are struggling to live their at a good standard at their life at a good standard at their life at a good standard at the they're having to the moment. they're having to make and make compromises and restrictions everywhere on all different aspects of life. and they don't sit there and go,

well, actually, yeah, i want to reinstate green levy on my reinstate this green levy on my bill of x, z. a lot bill because of x, y, z. a lot of people, i think you tell me if i'm wrong, a lot of people i think are not bought into this being the overriding priority. i'd love to jump in on that. so anew— i'd love to jump in on that. so a new name.— i'd love to jump in on that. so a few points. first— i'd love to jump in on that. so a few points. first of all, rerea— a few points. first of all, nerer. ide— a few points. first of all, peter, it's funny that you're eaying— peter, it's funny that you're saying misleading saying i'm misleading the public— saying i'm misleading the public.-know- saying i'm misleading the public.-know if- saying i'm misleading the public. know if you're public. i don't know if you're famine— public. i don't know if you're familiar,-but- public. i don't know if you're familiar,-but i- public. i don't know if you're familiar, but i spent over familiar, mate, but i spent over dwa— familiar, mate, but i spent over rwa-energy— familiar, mate, but i spent over rwa-energy naiiey- two years in energy policy naae— two years in energy policy naae-in— two years in energy policy before-in this- two years in energy policy before in this game, two years in energy policy before-in this game, i before i was in this game, and i aerwaiiy— before i was in this game, and i actually helped— before i was in this game, and i actually helped government actually helped the government imam— actually helped the government inform _nuclear. inform them on their nuclear energy— inform them on their nuclear energy-airi- inform them on their nuclear energy-aid ea- inform them on their nuclear. energy-bill so.can energy financing bill so we can get energy financing bill 50 we can get me— energy financing bill so we can get more nuclear— energy financing bill so we can get more nuclear power plants. and— get more nuclear power plants. and-with— get more nuclear power plants. and-with-rm- get more nuclear power plants. and-with-i'm veryl and i agree with you. i'm very annoyed— and i agree with you. i'm very annoyed by— and i agree with you. i'm very annoyed by ene— and i agree with you. i'm very annoyed by the coalition government— annoyed by the coalition government because an government because this is an old government because this is an eee-enee— government because this is an old that's floating around old clip that's floating around recently— old clip that's floating around. recently—turned recently where nick clegg turned around—there's- recently where nick clegg turned around _there's no. around and said, oh, there's no point—new- around and said, oh, there's no point_ new nuclear| point investing in new nuclear power— point investing in new nuclear. power—none power plants because they won't be power plants because they won't ne-zozz. — power plants because they won't be-2022. -thanks,| be online till 2022. oh, thanks, none. — be online till 2022. oh, thanks, note-conto- be online till 2022. oh, thanks, mate.-could have- be online till 2022. oh, thanks, mate. could have done mate. we really could have done neon— mate. we really could have done nnn enee— mate. we really could have done with that right— mate. we really could have done with that right now, as for the turning— with that right now, as for the burning fireball— with that right now, as for the burning fireball point, that's not exaggeration burning fireball point, that's not-exaggeration one not an exaggeration because one of_inl of the leading climate voices in the of the leading climate voices in tne nono— of the leading climate voices in the world alexandria the world is alexandria ocasio—cortez, former barmaid, the world is alexandria ocascongresswomanzr barmaid, the world is alexandria ocascongresswomanzr ba|saidi, the world is alexandria ocascongresswomanzr ba|said the now congresswoman who said the nono— now congresswoman who said the none te— now congresswoman who said the none te-to— now congresswoman who said the none n-to eno— now congresswoman who said the world is-to end in- world is going to end in 12 years— world is going to end in 12 years it— world is going to end in 12 years n we— world is going to end in 12 years if we address years if we don't address eunote— years if we don't address climate-now,- years if we don't address climate now, this years if we don't address- climate - now, this was climate change. now, this was tnen— climate change. now, this was men—tor— climate change. now, this was men—tor ner- climate change. now, this was then for her green climate change. now, this was- then _for her green new then jumped on for her green new deat— then jumped on for her green new neat poney— then jumped on for her green new neat poney one— then jumped on for her green new deal policy and green deal then jumped on for her green new dea been :y and green deal then jumped on for her green new dea been a and green deal then jumped on for her green new dea been a call green deal then jumped on for her green new dea been a call replicated deal then jumped on for her green new

dea been a call replicated byeal has been a call replicated by me— has been a call replicated by tne-noeo- has been a call replicated by the korea, canada has been a call replicated by. the-korea, canada and the eu, south korea, canada and yes,— the eu, south korea, canada and yes-own— the eu, south korea, canada and yes-own pony-as yes, labour's own party base. as for me— yes, labour's own party base. as for the flooding— yes, labour's own party base. as for the flooding concerns, we tne— for the flooding concerns, we tne-tntno— for the flooding concerns, we tne-tntno te- for the flooding concerns, we the thing is going the flooding thing is going to be eoetty— the flooding thing is going to be easily ameliorated by innovation— be easily ameliorated by innovation rather than us innovation rather than making us stoo— innovation rather than making us stop—driving- stop eating cows or driving cars or-eoon— stop eating cows or driving cars or-eoon ot— stop eating cows or driving cars or look at bangladesh, or whatever. look at bangladesh, wnere— or whatever. look at bangladesh, wnere tney-re — or whatever. look at bangladesh, where they're constantly flooded.— flooded. they imported over teennotogy— technology from the dutch and tney-ve— technology from the dutch and they've reduced— technology from the dutch and they've reduced deaths. they've reduced flooding deaths. and they've reduced flooding deaths. ant—yeare- and in the last hundred years, nomen— and in the last hundred years, natural-deaths- and in the last hundred years, natural deaths has natural disaster deaths has fatten— natural disaster deaths has fallen.99%_ natural disaster deaths has fallen 99% because of fallen by 99% because of teennotogy.— fallen by 99% because of technology. the last point, entour— technology. the last point, labour-make- technology. the last point, labour-make a. technology. the last point, labour make a 20, technology. the last point,- labour-make a 20, 30, labour trying to make a 20, 30, not— labour trying to make a 20, 30, not-so— labour trying to make a 20, 30, not-so ite— labour trying to make a 20, 30, not-so it's even- labour trying to make a 20, 30, not so it's even worse. not 2050. so it's even worse. mo,— not 2050. so it's even worse. zone, tony— not 2050. so it's even worse. 2030, fully renewable, publicly owned— 2030, fully renewable, publicly owned energy— 2030, fully renewable, publicly owned energy grid. do you know now— owned energy grid. do you know now noon— owned energy grid. do you know now noon n— owned energy grid. do you know how much it would— owned energy grid. do you know how much it would cost to get me— how much it would cost to get tne un— how much it would cost to get tne uk to— how much it would cost to get the uk to become— how much it would cost to get the uk to become fully renewable by the uk to become fully renewable ny zoom— the uk to become fully renewable ny zoeoe n— the uk to become fully renewable by 2030.7 it would _ the uk to become fully renewable by 2030.7 it would take the none-e— by 2030.7 it would take the world's battery— by 2030.7 it would take the world's battery manufacture eopoeny— world's battery manufacture capacity to — world's battery manufacture capacity to stop, be redirected to me— capacity to stop, be redirected to tne un— capacity to stop, be redirected to the uk. 80%_ capacity to stop, be redirected to the uk. 80% of— capacity to stop, be redirected to the uk. 80% of which is made by cntno— to the uk. 80% of which is made by cntno one— to the uk. 80% of which is made by china and china— to the uk. 80% of which is made by china and china owns all the eonn— by china and china owns all the rare earth minerals— by china and china owns all the rare earth minerals again, it wont— rare earth minerals again, it wont cont— rare earth minerals again, it would cost upwards of £3 tnuton— would cost upwards of £3 trillion and— would cost upwards of £3 trillion and that's calculated prior— trillion and that's calculated prior to— trillion and that's calculated prior to me— trillion and that's calculated prior to the inflation. that yo-e— prior to the inflation. that yo-e eno— prior to the inflation. that you've said is— prior to the inflation. that you've said is a- prior to the inflation. that you've said is a problem and it wont— you've said is a problem and it wont onty— you've said is a problem and it would only meet— you've said is a problem and it would only meet of energy would only meet 27% of energy demand— would only meet 27% of energy demand witn— would only meet 27% of energy demand with storage for demand with zero storage for ntoenonte— demand with zero storage for ntoenonte .— demand with zero storage for blackouts . that's the longest blackouts. that's the longest wnen— blackouts. that's the longest one. when lwas _ blackouts. that's the longest one. when was calculated in one. when it was calculated in 2on— one. when it was calculated in zone-toye— one. when it was calculated in zozo-ooye. n- one. when it was calculated in 2020-days. it is- 2020 was 21 days. it is a onene— 2020 was 21 days. it is a suicide tidal— 2020 was 21 days. it is a suicide tidal plan that is going to te—

suicide tidal plan that is going to be very— suicide tidal plan that is going to be very expensive for the consumer and not meet needs. wen.— consumer and not meet needs. wen. that— consumer and not meet needs. well, that told— consumer and not meet needs. well, that told you. _ consumer and not meet needs. well, that told you. do- consumer and not meet needs. well, that told you. do you- consumer and not meet needs. well, that told you. do you want to respond? well, it was a bit of on— to respond? well, it was a bit of on angry— to respond? well, it was a bit of an angry word,— 3“ well, it was a bit of an angry word, salad, so i non-t— of an angry word, salad, so i wont go. — of an angry word, salad, so i wont to -just- of an angry word, salad, so i won't go. g] g won't go. you just going to complain how i'm complain about how much? i'm saying, going to address saying, are you going to address any points, any point in any of my points, any point in the show? connor? that was a bit of on— the show? connor? that was a bit of on angry— the show? connor? that was a bit of on entry wont.— the show? connor? that was a bit of an angry word. salad- , connor? that was a bit of an angry word. salad so i wont— of an angry word. salad so i won't address— of an angry word. salad so i won't address but won't address it all. but minette,— won't address it all. but michelle, i— won't address it all. but michelle, i think you made a very— michelle, i think you made a very good— michelle, i think you made a very good point— michelle, i think you made a very good point about energy, wnen— which is essentially it's a note— which is essentially it's a note-non— which is essentially it's a trade now when people are trade off now when people are neody— trade off now when people are oneooy—notn- trade off now when people are. already—pain because already feeling the pain because of-enongee— already feeling the pain because of-changes and— already feeling the pain because of changes and inflation. of tax changes and inflation. nut— of tax changes and inflation. not ._ of tax changes and inflation. not . tntnn— of tax changes and inflation. but i think it's— of tax changes and inflation. but i think it's a— of tax changes and inflation. but i think it's a trade off we nove— but i think it's a trade off we have-because- but i think it's a trade off we have - because we i have to make because we need eeennty— have to make because we need eeenntyleneroy— have to make because we need security energy supply in the security of energy supply in the future. — security of energy supply in the future. that's— security of energy supply in the future. that's why— security of energy supply in the future. that's why i think nonuy— future. that's why i think morally to morally it's the right thing to do. morally it's the right thing to to. ann— morally it's the right thing to do. and there's— morally it's the right thing to do. and there's a— morally it's the right thing to do. and there's a huge debate as connote— do. and there's a huge debate as connon nine— do. and there's a huge debate as connors kind of— do. and there's a huge debate as connors kind of diatribe just snowed.— connors kind of diatribe just enoneo. nut— connors kind of diatribe just showed. but you've got showed. but actually you've got the leaders of the four main pontoo— the leaders of the four main pontoon-n- the leaders of the four main political is committed political parties is committed to net— political parties is committed to net zneo— political parties is committed to net zero. so— political parties is committed to net zero. so i— political parties is committed to net zero. so i think the target— to net zero. so i think the target to— to net zero. so i think the target is going— to net zero. so i think the target is going to whether target is going to stay whether people— target is going to stay whether people-not. - target is going to stay whether people-not. well,. target is going to stay whether. people-not. well, but people like it or not. well, but shoute— people like it or not. well, but should it, though, do you agree with times have changed, with it? times have changed, haven't i it haven't they? because i know it was of the referendum was in many of the referendum and manifestos in and sorry, in the manifestos in 2019, but life has moved on since then. so would you still support net if you were support net zero if you were asked the next general

asked at the next general election? a election? would you like a referendum what do you referendum on it? what do you make it all? it one of make to it all? is it one of your priorities or not? and perhaps her my viewers, perhaps i've had her my viewers, some you might be shouting at some of you might be shouting at your screens and saying, well, michelle, people not michelle, why are people not going china putting going over to china and putting more to china to more pressure on to china to reduce their emissions rather more pressure on to china to redu

join the live desk on gb news. the people's channel. britain's news . channel hello there, i'm news. channel hello there, i'm mieneue— news. channel hello there, i'm michelle dewberry— hello there, i'm michelle dewberry with you till mo— michelle dewberry with you till we tontgnt. — michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. alongside me, enter— 7:00 tonight. alongside me, one one— 7:00 tonight. alongside me, writer and political commentator conor— writer and political commentator conor tomlinson— writer and political commentator conor tomlinson and former editor— conor tomlinson and former edttot ot— conor tomlinson and former editor of labourlist peter tdnotde— editor of labourlist peter edwards. richard said, why don't tneee— edwards. richard said, why don't these protesters— edwards. richard said, why don't these protesters go and glue tneneetvee— these protesters go and glue themselves to _ these protesters go and glue themselves to a— these protesters go and glue themselves to a road in beijing? see— themselves to a road in beijing? see now— themselves to a road in beijing? see now tney— themselves to a road in beijing? see how they get— themselves to a road in beijing? see how they get on there? i don-t— see how they get on there? i dont tntnt— see how they get on there? i don't think they're allowed to fly don't think they're allowed to tty tneee — don't think they're allowed to tty tneee -tt- don't think they're allowed to fly these - if they - don't think they're allowed to fly these if they are to

fly these people, if they are to deten— fly these people, if they are to tteten to— fly these people, if they are to listen to -own _ fly these people, if they are to listen to own lunacy. listen to their own lunacy. attnoddn— listen to their own lunacy. although when _ listen to their own lunacy. although when you actually look at although when you actually look ot-ot— although when you actually look ot-ot tneee— although when you actually look at-of these people,- although when you actually look at of these people, you at some of these people, you totton—to- at some of these people, you follow—to where l at some of these people, you. follow—to where they follow them back to where they go follow them back to where they fie-they— follow them back to where they do-tney det— follow them back to where they go -they get ltheir - follow them back to where they go they get their nice go and they get in their nice eon-ott— go and they get in their nice cars-all the— go and they get in their nice cars-all the rest- go and they get in their nice cars all the rest of it, cars and all the rest of it, tnete-e— cars and all the rest of it, tnete-e o— cars and all the rest of it, there's a little— cars and all the rest of it, there's a little of there's a little bit of hypocrisy,- there's a little bit of hypocrisy, hypocrisy going on, i ted— hypocrisy, hypocrisy going on, i tett yon— hypocrisy, hypocrisy going on, i can tell you -john,- hypocrisy, hypocrisy going on, i can tell you john, say can tell you that. john, you say you— can tell you that. john, you say you done— can tell you that. john, you say you blame - media - can tell you that. john, you say you blame media for a lot of you blame the media for a lot of tne— you blame the media for a lot of the wny— you blame the media for a lot of the wny ore— you blame the media for a lot of the wny te— you blame the media for a lot of this. why are is the— you blame the media for a lot of this. why are is the word neotnove— this. why are is the word heatwave - all - this. why are is the word heatwave all the rest of it. heatwave and all the rest of it. dent— heatwave and all the rest of it. dent-and— heatwave and all the rest of it. heat-and heat— heatwave and all the rest of it. heat and heat that being heat this and heat that being bonded— heat this and heat that being bandied _time.| bandied around all the time. ton-te— bandied around all the time. ton-reevet—n bandied around all the time.- you're_ever happened you're asking what ever happened to tne— you're asking what ever happened to tne word— you're asking what ever happened to the word summer? i you. to the word summer? i hate you. i-sayy_ to the word summer? i hate you. t-eoy ._ to the word summer? i hate you. t-eoy . teddy— to the word summer? i hate you. i_say, i really do.- i have to say, i really do. nntdn-e— i have to say, i really do. britain's most- i have to say, i really do. britain's most senior soldier generat— britain's most senior soldier general, sanders, general, sir patrick sanders, ttoete— general, sir patrick sanders, blasts—outdatedl blasts the army's outdated vendet— blasts the army's outdated vehicles today— blasts the army's outdated vehicles today ._ blasts the army's outdated vehicles today . and it's all vehicles today. and it's all about— vehicles today. and it's all about-ot- vehicles today. and it's all about-or not- vehicles today. and it's all about-or not we. vehicles today. and it's all about or not we are about whether or not we are going— about whether or not we are done to— about whether or not we are done to te— about whether or not we are going to be protected. if onytntnd— going to be protected. if onytntnd ,— going to be protected. if anything, ang can goes wrong anything, ang can it goes wrong in anything, ang can it goes wrong tn tne— anything, ang can it goes wrong tn the country. — anything, ang can it goes wrong in this country. we've depleted , nony— in this country. we've depleted , nony peopte— in this country. we've depleted , many people would say our detest— , many people would say our oeeeet tn— , many people would say our assets in the— , many people would say our assets in the army for quite a yonde— assets in the army for quite a while, whether— assets in the army for quite a while, whether it's manpower, notenote— while, whether it's manpower, materials-the - while, whether it's manpower, materials the rest of it materials and all the rest of it . ode-ve— materials and all the rest of it . weve nod— materials and all the rest of it . we've had-huge- materials and all the rest of it . we've had huge kind of .we've had this huge kind of dntn. — .we've had this huge kind of dntn. .doty— .we've had this huge kind of drain. - now, when - .we've had this huge kind of drain. now, when it comes to drain. now now, when it comes to dtntne— drain. now now, when it comes to undone-tote— drain. now now, when it comes to ukraine,.lots of— drain. now now, when it comes to ukraine, lots of equipment ukraine, for lots of equipmenti we've—over there, we've been putting over there, many— we've been putting over there, many-ody— we've been putting over there, many-say rightly- we've been putting over there, many say rightly so, many many people say rightly so, many otnen— many people say rightly so, many others disagree. _ many people say rightly so, many others disagree. but when it to— others disagree. but when it comes to our— others disagree. but when it comes to our safety and the army genetotty— comes to our safety and the army more generally and— comes to our safety and the army more generally and the equipment that more generally and the equipment tnot wee— more generally and the equipment tnot dot— more generally and the equipment that we've got has— more generally and the equipment that we've got has been criticised _ that we've got has been criticised here - that we've got has been criticised here by someone that

knotte— criticised here by someone that knows—oo- criticised here by someone that knows—do yon- criticised here by someone that knows—do you feeli knows his onions. do you feel tnot— knows his onions. do you feel that-potentially- that we are potentially nedteettnd— that we are potentially neglecting our armed in neglecting our armed forces in tne— neglecting our armed forces in the country— neglecting our armed forces in the eodnttye — neglecting our armed forces in this country ? lattice this country? well, i think the armed forces have been neglected. undoubted. neglected. that's undoubted. the coalition number of coalition took the number of soldiers from around 100,000 to about 82,000 and it's set to go down further to about 73,000. it seems less likely that britain would be involved in what's called a hot war. i a conflict with another nation. but thank goodness. but it's still an awful lot for the army to do, whether that's training, humanitarian work, supplying equipment , humanitarian work, supplying equipment, it plus all the things i do like helping out with britain . so with flooding in britain. so there's huge demands being there's still huge demands being made and made of the british army. and i use word neglected, which is use the word neglected, which is absolutely right, because also there's whole issue there's a whole nother issue which rarely gets covered. which very rarely gets covered. but lives of people, but the lives of people, veterans, they the veterans, after they leave the army, modest pensions is army, often modest pensions is great morale and is great camaraderie. but several, many service personnel end up on the streets, have a very tough life. they may have lost limbs. they may have lost loved ones in war.

they battle with addiction. and there is a general neglect of there is a general neglect of the armed forces and society . the armed forces and society. and these are political choices in a sense. and i although i'm deeply uncomfortable with many of actions of the coalition of the actions of the coalition austerity, accept the austerity, i do accept the spending had to fall. but the army and support for ex—soldiers to me has been cut far too much. and i think we're less safe as a result. and i think veterans don't get the love they deserve . i nearly fell off my chair. i oetdotty— . i nearly fell off my chair. i actually agree— i nearly fell off my chair. i actually agree with almost eyeytntnd— actually agree with almost everything peterjust said. o" everything peterjust said. oh, that-s— everything peterjust said. oh, tttt-s ndee— everything peterjust said. oh, that's nice, isn't— everything peterjust said. oh, that's nice, isn't it?— everything peterjust said. oh, that's nice, isn't it? something that's nice, isn't it? something that i remember. it must have teen— that i remember. it must have been about— that i remember. it must have been about o— that i remember. it must have been about a year— that i remember. it must have been about a year ago- ”tis“i“ it must have been about a year ago now, ”tishi“ it must have been about a year ago now, a nonotodde— been about a year ago now, a monologue from _ been about a year ago now, a monologue from patrick christys tnot— monologue from patrick christys tnot-ettdet— monologue from patrick christys that - struck l chord - monologue from patrick christys that struck chord with that really struck a chord with me. -around-time. that really struck a chord with me. around time that me. it was around the time that tney— me. it was around the time that tney-totttnd— me. it was around the time that they-talking about- me. it was around the time that they talking about housing, they were talking about housing, toot— they were talking about housing, toot-and— they were talking about housing, toot-and deny- they were talking about housing, boat and army barracks, they were talking about housing, boathe and army barracks, they were talking about housing, boathe did and army barracks, they were talking about housing, boathe did turnnd army barracks, they were talking about housing, boathe did turn around! barracks, they were talking about housing, boathe did turn around and racks, they were talking about housing, boathe did turn around and say, ;, and he did turn around and say, wett— and he did turn around and say, well,-veterans- and he did turn around and say, well, veterans have well, there's veterans that have toddnt—eteentndi fought for this country sleeping on—tney- fought for this country sleeping on—tney don-tl fought for this country sleepingi on_they don't get on the street and they don't get the on the street and they don't get tne-eote— on the street and they don't get tne-eote end— on the street and they don't get the-care and access- on the street and they don't get the care and access and the same care and access and treatment.— the same care and access and treatment. they— the same care and access and treatment. they don't get the tonne-so— treatment. they don't get the tonne-so ony- treatment. they don't get the same so why aren't treatment. they don't get the- same -so why aren't we same provision. so why aren't we toottnd— same provision. so why aren't we toottnd otter— same provision. so why aren't we looking after-own?- same provision. so why aren't we looking after own? and the looking after our own? and the eanee—- same principle applies, as you end.— same principle applies, as you eddlneon— same principle applies, as you said. imean, we've- same principle applies, as you said. mean, we've donated lots said. i mean, we've donated lots of said. i mean, we've donated lots ot-tote— said. i mean, we've donated lots ot-tote ot— said. i mean, we've donated lots of lots of armaments over of money, lots of armaments over to—tn— of money, lots of armaments over to—tn dtntne- of money, lots of armaments over to_in ukraine to- to the proxy war in ukraine to nett— to the proxy war in ukraine to ten-tne— to the proxy war in ukraine to help the ukrainians defend help out the ukrainians defend tnett—

help out the ukrainians defend tnett eodntty. — help out the ukrainians defend their country. but— help out the ukrainians defend their country. but okay, in zen»,— their country. but okay, in 2019,-statistic- their country. but okay, in 2019, statistic at 2019, the statistic was, at a ntntnndn— 2019, the statistic was, at a minimum, our— 2019, the statistic was, at a minimum, our army armed forces down ete— minimum, our army armed forces were down 8% below targets. teetdttnent— were down 8% below targets. recruitment has— were down 8% below targets. recruitment has slumped . i was recruitment has slumped. i was epeottnd— recruitment has slumped. i was epeottng to— recruitment has slumped. i was epeottng to o— recruitment has slumped. i was speaking to a friend of mine nno-e— speaking to a friend of mine nno-e neont— speaking to a friend of mine who's meant to— speaking to a friend of mine who's meant to be going into the nttttoty— who's meant to be going into the nttttoty soon— who's meant to be going into the military soon, and— who's meant to be going into the military soon, and he said that eonneonetnn-n- military soon, and he said that someone-him in- someone had told him in the teetdtttnd— someone had told him in the recruiting-that- someone had told him in the recruiting that their recruiting area that their teeeeen— recruiting area that their reserves are— recruiting area that their reserves are lowest since reserves are the lowest since about— reserves are the lowest since about tne— reserves are the lowest since about the napoleonic wars, ootttentody— about the napoleonic wars,| particularly _to particularly proportionate to poontotton— particularly proportionate to pooneoeottnd— particularly proportionate to popu speaking about the then speaking about the edntonent— then speaking about the equipment not then speaking about the. equipment-not in then speaking about the- equipment-not in the equipment and what not in the tntednted— equipment and what not in the integrated review, i think this must— integrated review, i think this must te— integrated review, i think this must toe-don- integrated review, i think this must be now there was must be in 2020. now there was a lot must be in 2020. now there was a tot ot— must be in 2020. now there was a lot of discussion— must be in 2020. now there was a lot of discussion about the army ettnote — lot of discussion about the army climate change _ lot of discussion about the army climate change proofing its eontpnent— climate change proofing its equipment. now i don't know how poteent— equipment. now i don't know how procurement works. _ equipment. now i don't know how procurement works. i won't, i wont— procurement works. i won't, i wont pretend— procurement works. i won't, i won't pretend to— procurement works. i won't, i won't pretend to be an armchair generat— won't pretend to be an armchair denent ot— won't pretend to be an armchair general or something, but i tntnt— general or something, but i tntnt tne— general or something, but i think the chief— general or something, but i think the chief concern should be think the chief concern should te tees— think the chief concern should be less about— think the chief concern should be less about abstraction depher in be less about abstraction depher tn tne— be less about abstraction depher in the distance— be less about abstraction depher in the distance and more about now— in the distance and more about now denteted— in the distance and more about how depleted our— in the distance and more about how depleted our reserves are. now,— how depleted our reserves are. don, tt— how depleted our reserves are. ton, to de— how depleted our reserves are. ton, n on you— how depleted our reserves are. now, if, as you said, peter, we get— now, if, as you said, peter, we get-a— now, if, as you said, peter, we get-o not— now, if, as you said, peter, we get-a hot conflict,- now, if, as you said, peter, we get a hot conflict, god get into a hot conflict, god totttd— get into a hot conflict, god forbid, general— get into a hot conflict, god forbid, general he's forbid, general sanders, he's eoytnd— forbid, general sanders, he's eoytng tnot— forbid, general sanders, he's saying that many of the armies, onet— saying that many of the armies, nnot ne— saying that many of the armies, what he calls— saying that many of the armies, what he calls platforms outdated,— what he calls platforms outdated,-fit- what he calls platforms- outdated,-fit.purpose. outdated, not fit for purpose. he outdated, not fit for purpose. do says— outdated, not fit for purpose. he says - reservist- outdated, not fit for purpose. he says - reservist force - outdated, not fit for purpose. he says-reservist force is. he says our reservist force is neither capable nor credible . neither capable nor credible. well, he on and says , well, he goes on and says, basically, he likens to us a rotary dial telephone in an

iphone age farage. i mean, it's really not good. and especially when we do seem to be a country that does seem to have a little bit of be quite partial to sticking our nose into to the affairs of other countries . it affairs of other countries. it would be nice if anything were to go wrong that we were protected as well as we needed to be. i suspect, though, many of you at home will will certainly feel that we perhaps are not. gb views gb news .com. when i come back, i'm asking you a simple question. when it comes to pensions, we keep the to pensions, should we keep the triple lock or .

not hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you right through until 7:00 tonight alongside me, the writer and political commentator conor tomlinson and the former editor of labourlist, peter edwards . now let's talk peter edwards. now let's talk pensions, shall we? because

let's face it, we all know by now this economy is in a little bit of a pickle, isn't it? so lots of conversations then about where we should make cuts, where we shouldn't, what we should increase what shouldn't increase and what we shouldn't and of it. now some and all the rest of it. now some economists that economists are predicting that the could rise by the state pension could rise by 7% year. that's for some 7% next year. that's for some would be worth an extra £750 a month. i can almost hear many of you there shouting who are the sun? because certainly not sun? because it's certainly not me. saying, me. you will be saying, i suspect. when it comes to suspect. anyway when it comes to things like the triple lock, it seems seems go seems to, which seems to go around in circles a few times on this, to be left this, it never seems to be left alone. the triple lock, it's never just written in stone and neverjust written in stone and off gone and forgotten off it's gone and forgotten about. periodically pick about. we do periodically pick this well, should it this up and go, well, should it be a thing? should it be a thing? it, peter? i think thing? should it, peter? i think it should. it's inflation.- hi] : e jitieti”? ithink it should. it's inflation. wages are it should. it's inflation. wages ore-donn— it should. it's inflation. wages are-growthlthink- are 2.5% growth. i think it stood— are 2.5% growth. i think it enodtd te— are 2.5% growth. i think it should be honoured because first of should be honoured because first ot-o— should be honoured because first ot-o donne— should be honoured because first of-a promise. and- should be honoured because first of a promise. and when of all, it's a promise. and when doenente— of all, it's a promise. and when governments make— of all, it's a promise. and when governments make promises, they enodtd— governments make promises, they enodtd-tnen.— governments make promises, they should them. secondly it's should keep them. secondly it's a should keep them. secondly it's o ntontee— should keep them. secondly it's o nontee to— should keep them. secondly it's a promise to some— should keep them. secondly it's a promise to some of the oldest or a promise to some of the oldest ot tne— a promise to some of the oldest ot tne oddest— a promise to some of the oldest or the oldest and— a promise to some of the oldest or the oldest and some of the most— or the oldest and some of the most vulnerable— or the oldest and some of the most vulnerable people in eodety— most vulnerable people in eodety-tdet- most vulnerable people in. society.-just doing

society. and i was just doing some, you someone who's society. and i was just doing sonthey u someone who's society. and i was just doing sonthey u borntmeone who's society. and i was just doing sonthey u born before who's society. and i was just doing sonthey u born before the)'s 85. they were born before the second— 85. they were born before the second world _ 85. they were born before the second world war. so would we teddy— second world war. so would we ready nont— second world war. so would we ready wont to— second world war. so would we really want to take— second world war. so would we really want to take money away tron — really want to take money away from someone of— really want to take money away from someone of that age? you dtdn-t— from someone of that age? you dtdn-t-otodt— from someone of that age? you didn't-about all- from someone of that age? you didn't about all the other didn't think about all the other enottendee— didn't think about all the other challenges-face.- didn't think about all the other challenges face. could challenges pensioner face. could be challenges pensioner face. could te—eodtd— challenges pensioner face. could te—eodtd te- challenges pensioner face. could be_could be seriousi be poverty. we could be serious tttneee— be poverty. we could be serious illness-obviously- illness. many obviously live on tnett— illness. many obviously live on their-there's— illness. many obviously live on their-there's-ofl their own. there's a crisis of tonettneee— their own. there's a crisis of loneliness. there's an inflation ende— loneliness. there's an inflation odete-tnoddn— loneliness. there's an inflation crisis. though, hopefully crisis. now, though, hopefully ytt— crisis. now, though, hopefully odd-ot— crisis. now, though, hopefully will-of that. - crisis. now, though, hopefully will of that. there are will come out of that. there are nude— will come out of that. there are nude neeentee— will come out of that. there are huge pressures on— will come out of that. there are huge pressures on government ependtnd— huge pressures on government enendtnd .— huge pressures on government enendtnd . .— huge pressures on government spending . i don't— huge pressures on government spending . i don't we spending. i don't think we stood— spending. i don't think we should break— spending. i don't think we should break promise to should break a promise to penetonen— should break a promise to pensioners-i- should break a promise to pensioners i don't think it pensioners and i don't think it nttt— pensioners and i don't think it wttt happen— pensioners and i don't think it wttt happen-l- pensioners and i don't think it will happen i think it will happen because i think it nodd— will happen because i think it nodtd te— will happen because i think it would be politically toxic for any— would be politically toxic for any party— would be politically toxic for any party campaigning to be government— any party campaigning to be government to— any party campaigning to be government to tell pensioners nno— government to tell pensioners nno-tn— government to tell pensioners nno-tn noon— government to tell pensioners who in much higher numbers who vote in much higher numbers ,_y0..- who vote in much higher numbers ,_y0.. noney.| , we're taking away your money. it , we're taking away your money. tt-ntond.— , we're taking away your money. it-wrong..would- , we're taking away your money. it-wrong..would bei it would be wrong. it would be unten— it would be wrong. it would be unfair political— it would be wrong. it would be unfair political a— it would be wrong. it would be unfair political a political notnt— unfair political a political potnt tnete. — unfair political a political point there. _ unfair political a political point there. ' t: unfair political a political point there. 't: unfair political a political point there. t: unfair political a political- point there. and ithink that is point there. and i think that is a very wise one because actually the matter when it the pensioners do matter when it comes political comes to getting political parties re—elected in this country . lots of people as well country. lots of people as well have shouting at the screen have been shouting at the screen saying michelle, don't you dare saying michelle, don't you dare say that the stay at pension is a benefit they'll say a benefit because they'll say it's we've it's not a benefit. we've grafted our lives, we've grafted all our lives, we've paid this system. so now paid into this system. so now actually, if all the people at the end the scale that the other end of the scale that

perhaps started their perhaps haven't started their working the of working lives or all the rest of it, yes, them. but leavers it, yes, with them. but leavers are alone. i hear them. are alone. i can hear them. i have sympathy for that view. and get wrong, both and don't get me wrong, both sets— and don't get me wrong, both sets ot— and don't get me wrong, both sets ot ny— and don't get me wrong, both sets of my grandparents alive, tott— sets of my grandparents alive, totn ot— sets of my grandparents alive, totn ot tnen— sets of my grandparents alive, both of them have state nenetone— both of them have state pensions, both them pensions, both of them are underserved_ pensions, both of them are underserved that underserved by the amount that tney—tnoddnl they receive. point is, though, because— they receive. point is, though, because ot— they receive. point is, though, because of inflation, the amount nodd— because of inflation, the amount odd—not- because of inflation, the amount odd—not overl paid into the pension pot over tnen— paid into the pension pot over their lifetime— paid into the pension pot over their lifetime is— paid into the pension pot over their lifetime is now far less tnon— their lifetime is now far less tnon nnot— their lifetime is now far less than what-going- their lifetime is now far less than what going to have than what they're going to have to—eo— than what they're going to have to—eo-dotl to receive. and so you've got tne— to receive. and so you've got this inverted— to receive. and so you've got this inverted pyramid to receive. and so you've got- this inverted-pyramid of this inverted payment pyramid of a number, particularly a smaller number, particularly teoe— a smaller number, particularly teoe tne— a smaller number, particularly because the baby— a smaller number, particularly because the baby boomers are a massive generation— because the baby boomers are a massive generation working massive generation of working neotte— massive generation of working teone—tne- massive generation of working people the current people paying into the current tendon— people paying into the current tendon-to— people paying into the current tendon-to ony— people paying into the current pension to pay for the pension pot to pay for the odnent— pension pot to pay for the current pensions because there duet— current pensions because there duet ten-t— current pensions because there just isn't enough— current pensions because there just isn't enough to give just isn't enough money to give to-odnent— just isn't enough money to give to-odnent-ty- to the current cohort. by the tne— to the current cohort. by the time-generation- to the current cohort. by the- time-generation-about, time my generation come about, note-donn— time my generation come about, ne-ne-dotnd to— time my generation come about, we're going to have we're not going to have nnytttna— we're not going to have anything-lin- we're not going to have anything. in the short term, anything. so in the short term, i anything. so in the short term, . don-t— anything. so in the short term, . dont know— anything. so in the short term, i don't know what— anything. so in the short term, i don't know what the fix is. sonny. — i don't know what the fix is. sonny. .— i don't know what the fix is. sonny. t-t— i don't know what the fix is. sonny. t-t-nn- i don't know what the fix is. sorry. i-i-an answer. sorry. iwish i had an answer. tut— sorry. iwish i had an answer. tut-tne— sorry. iwish i had an answer. tdtltne tong— sorry. i wish i had an answer. but the long term, yes, it's but in the long term, yes, it's tottttontty— but in the long term, yes, it's politically inexpedient get politically inexpedient to get rid politically inexpedient to get nd-tdt— politically inexpedient to get rid but eventually when politically inexpedient to get rid systemit eventually when politically inexpedient to get rid system goes ntually when politically inexpedient to get rid system goes bankrupt,ten politically inexpedient to get rid system goes bankrupt, iti the system goes bankrupt, it nttt— the system goes bankrupt, it ntttlnnny— the system goes bankrupt, it will-away. and - the system goes bankrupt, it will away. and so we need to will go away. and so we need to find— will go away. and so we need to ttnd n— will go away. and so we need to find a solution— will go away. and so we need to find a solution to— will go away. and so we need to find a solution to this so it edoee— find a solution to this so it reduces the— find a solution to this so it reduces the amount of pain for tott— reduces the amount of pain for totn-yodnd— reduces the amount of pain for both young people when both old and young people when tnene-e— both old and young people when tnene-e no— both old and young people when there's no money— both old and young people when there's no money the there's no money left in the not. —do- there's no money left in the not. —do you. there's no money left in the. pot. _do you make there's no money left in the- pot. _do you make of pot. well, what do you make of it none of you so far

it all? none of you so far anyway. lots of you are basically saying en masse, you're can hear you you're shouting, i can hear you to the lock alone. to leave the triple lock alone. one of my viewers is jan says she loves connor. do still she loves connor. do you still love him, though ? what he was love him, though? what he was just saying about the pensions is because certainly is because it is certainly dividing, isn't it? but i need to before i finish this show, i can't go home without mentioning everyone because really everyone because i'm really happy i mentioned happy and excited. i mentioned it start of it didn't i, at the start of this programme i this programme because i came straight studio from the straight to the studio from the tric awards in london, and if you don't know what the tric awards are, basically long story short, these are like television industry awards. but the key crucial point here is that they are voted for by you, the viewer, the people. it's not, you know, the judges sitting there, pontiff skating over who gets the award and who doesn't it. so anyway, can you imagine our delight, everybody, ladies and today when we won gb and gents, today when we won gb news one, not one, but get this , two awards today . absolutely , two awards today. absolutely fantastic. gb news btec first won best multi—channel programme and nigel farage won. news

presenter of the year. i think i've got a little clip actually , and i'm have to say i'm really rather proud to have this because i'm a new boy. i've only been doing this— because i'm a new boy. i've only been doing this for— because i'm a new boy. i've only been doing this for a— , i've only been doing this for a couple of yene— been doing this for a couple of yeno oo n nude— been doing this for a couple of years, so a huge thanks to all tnooe— years, so a huge thanks to all tnooe dood— years, so a huge thanks to all those good ordinary folk who tne— those good ordinary folk who live outside _ those good ordinary folk who live outside the— those good ordinary folk who live outside the m25 for voting for live outside the m25 for voting to — live outside the m25 for voting to .— live outside the m25 for voting for me. i suspect— live outside the m25 for voting for me. i suspect that had the tnddotny— for me. i suspect that had the tnddotny nod— for me. i suspect that had the industry had the— for me. i suspect that had the industry had the say, i very noon— industry had the say, i very much doubt— industry had the say, i very much doubt i— industry had the say, i very much doubt i would have won and i'm much doubt i would have won and tn oentntn— much doubt i would have won and tn oentntn tne— much doubt i would have won and i'm certain the three— much doubt i would have won and i'm certain the three gb news tneoenteno— i'm certain the three gb news presenters would— i'm certain the three gb news presenters would not have been in presenters would not have been tn tne— presenters would not have been in the shortlist— presenters would not have been in the shortlist of— presenters would not have been in the shortlist of five, which onodtd — in the shortlist of five, which onodtd te — in the shortlist of five, which should be very— in the shortlist of five, which should be very instructive for tne— should be very instructive for tne nnote— should be very instructive for the whole of— should be very instructive for the whole of the— should be very instructive for the whole of the industry . the whole of the industry. vent.— the whole of the industry. vent. tu— the whole of the industry. yeah, i'll tell— the whole of the industry. yeah, i'll tell you. - the whole of the industry. yeah, i'll tell you. right there's about a thousand people in that room . presenters, tv in that room. presenters, tv execs , all the rest of it, and execs, all the rest of it, and the atmosphere, the response to us winning. honestly, i think it was absolutely hilarious . they was absolutely hilarious. they couldn't believe it. they didn't like it. they didn't think that it was right and proper. some of the hosts couldn't even bring themselves at the end of handing out that award to say what they

were supposed to say. at one point, one of the hosts turned round and said, well, it's says here that i'm supposed to say, well done, gb news. but that's not going to happen. so it was like that. the heckling. connor and what i found fascinating about gb news is we were set up because there was certainly in my mind, a need because much my mind, a need because so much established media, it didn't represent the voices of so many people as this massive disconnect . but from the second disconnect. but from the second we were announced before we'd even broadcast a second worth of content content, huge campaigns were launched online, very effectively in some cases to boycott us, to humiliate , to try boycott us, to humiliate, to try and close us down, to try and shame us out of business, to remove advertisers from us. and it continues. that does to this day. yeah. well, i would say as it continues. that does to this d.practising well, i would say as it continues. that does to this d.practising catholic, 'ould say as it continues. that does to this d.practising catholic, i'lld say as it continues. that does to this d.practising catholic, i'll cite/ as a practising catholic, i'll cite a practising catholic, i'll cite n doonet— a practising catholic, i'll cite n doonet vetoe— a practising catholic, i'll cite a gospel verse and say that otten— a gospel verse and say that we're often vindicate hated by tnooe— we're often vindicate hated by tnooe nno— we're often vindicate hated by those who persecute us. and the tendon— those who persecute us. and the tntton tdttto— those who persecute us. and the british public are— those who persecute us. and the british public are on the side of british public are on the side ot ot— british public are on the side ot ot teno— british public are on the side of gb news well, it just shows the metropolitan— of gb news well, it just shows the metropolitan are the metropolitan bubble are

oonttetety— the metropolitan bubble are completely touch. i do completely out of touch. i do nnt— completely out of touch. i do want congratulate everyone want to congratulate everyone notnntty— actually, because i've had the tnyttede— actually, because i've had the privilege .come_ actually, because i've had the privilege come this privilege to come on this network— privilege to come on this network nearly two years network for nearly two years -ott— network for nearly two years non-on nnd- network for nearly two years now,-off and as- network for nearly two years now, off and as much as now, on and off and as much as tne— now, on and off and as much as tne toot— now, on and off and as much as the host deserve— now, on and off and as much as the host deserve it— now, on and off and as much as the host deserve it as well, so doeo— the host deserve it as well, so does-production- the host deserve it as well, so does production team. behind does the production team. behind the does the production team. behind tne-tovety.— does the production team. behind the - lovely. .with - the scenes is lovely. as with tnooe— the scenes is lovely. as with tnnae tenn — the scenes is lovely. as with farage team ben, one of the lead tnoddoeno— farage team ben, one of the lead producers, actually— farage team ben, one of the lead producers, actually the producers, actually takes the tntttnttve. — producers, actually takes the initiative. _of- initiative. unlike lots of teonte— initiative. unlike lots of neotte tn— initiative. unlike lots of people in the- initiative. unlike lots of people in the mainstream media tolodt— people in the mainstream media to.out-interview- people in the mainstream media to out interview the to go out and interview the tnttto— to go out and interview the outdo-det— to go out and interview the public-get what- to go out and interview the public get what they think public and get what they think so public and get what they think oo nett— public and get what they think oo wed-tne— public and get what they think so well the network. so well done to the network. stout— so well done to the network. stout ont— so well done to the network. stout out to — so well done to the network. shout out to ben. _ so well done to the network. shout out to ben. you've- so well done to the network. shout out to ben. you've just reminded of our reminded me, one of our producers, little while producers, a little while ago, he a haircut at he was having a haircut at a barbers. he got halfway through. he got chatting to the fella, told worked at news. told him he worked at gb news. the refused finish his the barber refused to finish his haircut. never forget that. haircut. i'll never forget that. peter, your congratulations to gb peter, your congratulations to on -ao— peter, your congratulations to on -ao-one- peter, your congratulations to gb -as-sure the - peter, your congratulations to - gb -as-sure the viewers gb news. as i'm sure the viewers ndne-tt— gb news. as i'm sure the viewers aware,-tv-there's. aware, in any tv show, there's an aware, in any tv show, there's nn-tot— aware, in any tv show, there's nn-tot ot— aware, in any tv show, there's an-lot of work- aware, in any tv show, there's an lot of work that goes an awful lot of work that goes in an awful lot of work that goes tn-tne— an awful lot of work that goes in -the scenes. - an awful lot of work that goes in -the scenes. and - in behind the scenes. and i don-t— in behind the scenes. and i dont tntnt— in behind the scenes. and i don't think i'm— in behind the scenes. and i don't think i'm giving anything nnny— don't think i'm giving anything nnny ty— don't think i'm giving anything away by 5awig,— don't think i'm giving anything away by saying, you know, people ttn— away by saying, you know, people that—background - away by saying, you know, people that—background in. that work in the background in tetevtoton— that work in the background in television, they're not all millionaires. _ television, they're not all millionaires. they're millionaires. they're they're dotnd—tyl millionaires. they're they'rei dotnd—ty tn doing their best to get by in toddn— doing their best to get by in toddn-and— doing their best to get by in tough and they're tough times. and they're doing a dent— tough times. and they're doing a nent tot. — tough times. and they're doing a nent tot. .— tough times. and they're doing a nenttot-t note— tough times. and they're doing a great job. i hope nigel great job. and i hope nigel tnnde— great job. and i hope nigel tnnde-to-doi great job. and i hope nigel. farage-to-us all farage is going to take us all out— farage is going to take us all ontltdnon. — farage is going to take us all out-lunch. well,- farage is going to take us all out-lunch. well, i- farage is going to take us all out lunch. lattice tint“ farage is going to take us all out lunch. lattice tins“ out for lunch. well, i can tell you honestly, if you're bored, get yourself on twitter and

social media look at the social media and look at the response the tric awards ads, response to the tric awards ads, social media when they've social media thread when they've announced won. it's announced that we've won. it's absolutely hilarious. people are they're to spontaneously they're about to spontaneously combust. handle it. combust. they can't handle it. they're blaming it on everything. this anomaly, that anomaly. telling ofcom anomaly. they're telling ofcom to us and investigate to look at us and investigate us. they're laughing at us. they're mocking us. they're humiliate it doesn't humiliate us, but it doesn't wash because don't wash with us because we don't sit represent them. the sit here to represent them. the television industry, we sit here to you, the viewers at to represent you, the viewers at home, and i can't stress it enough. it really does mean a lot to every single one of us, whether we're front of camera, behind the camera . we're behind the camera. we're absolutely nothing without you. the brand boycotts to this day, they continue. when you ask me, michelle, why do you keep showing the same adverts? it's not because of desire, it's because pressure campaigns to because of pressure campaigns to make offers is make people turn offers is unacceptable . but we thank you unacceptable. but we thank you for your support. long may gb news continue to, but for now thatis news continue to, but for now that is all i've got. time for. connon that is all i've got. time for. connor. peter. thank you for your company. thank you. once

again at home. we very much appreciate all of you. but up next, the award winner. woo hoo, nigel farage. evening. alex tenttn— nigel farage. evening. alex tenttn tene— nigel farage. evening. alex deakin here with— h gill 3 evening. alex deakin here with your latest nentten— deakin here with your latest weather update— deakin here with your latest weather update from the met ttttoe— weather update from the met otttoe ton— weather update from the met office for gb— weather update from the met office for gb news. quite a ndntd— office for gb news. quite a warm, humid night tonight and tnnt-tt— warm, humid night tonight and tnnt-tt otttt— warm, humid night tonight and that'll still be— warm, humid night tonight and that'll still be around tomorrow tnoddn— that'll still be around tomorrow tnoddn tt— that'll still be around tomorrow though it-turn_ that'll still be around tomorrow though it turn fresher though it will turn fresher tnen— though it will turn fresher tntenltne — though it will turn fresher later the north—west. behind later in the north—west. behind tno— later in the north—west. behind tnto ootd— later in the north—west. behind this cold front,— later in the north—west. behind this cold front,-is- later in the north—west. behind this cold front, is slow this cold front, which is slow otonty— this cold front, which is slow slowly heading— this cold front, which is slow slowly heading in at the moment. but slowly heading in at the moment. tut tnooe— slowly heading in at the moment. but these weather— slowly heading in at the moment. but these weather fronts have teen — but these weather fronts have teen -ddtte - but these weather fronts have been-quitelbit- but these weather fronts have been - quite l bit of l been bringing quite a bit of nn— been bringing quite a bit of ndn-tne— been bringing quite a bit of rain-the country- been bringing quite a bit of rain the country through rain across the country through the rain across the country through tne-todny. — rain across the country through the .today. still— rain across the country through the today. still damp the day today. still pretty damp out-eventnd- the day today. still pretty damp out-evening over- out there this evening over ten— out there this evening over eastern scotland, eastern england, scotland, nontnenn— eastern england, scotland, northern england northern northern england and northern tnetnnd— northern england and northern ireland-tending- northern england and northern ireland. tending to ireland. the rain tending to tend— ireland. the rain tending to tend-tne- ireland. the rain tending to head -the north. ireland. the rain tending to head the north sea. head out into the north sea. ttnny— head out into the north sea. many-becoming- head out into the north sea. many becoming dry. so we many places becoming dry. so we tnen-t— many places becoming dry. so we tnen-t oeen— many places becoming dry. so we haven't seen-rain- many places becoming dry. so we haven't seen rain again haven't seen much rain again nonooo-tnnoddn- haven't seen much rain again across through the haven't seen much rain again. across -through the day across the south through the day today— across the south through the day today-overnight.— across the south through the day today-overnight. it- across the south through the day today overnight. it stays today and overnight. it stays dry,— today and overnight. it stays dry, predominantly cloudy, a bit misty— dry, predominantly cloudy, a bit misty and— dry, predominantly cloudy, a bit misty and murky— dry, predominantly cloudy, a bit misty and murky places and misty and murky in places and quite— misty and murky in places and quite — misty and murky in places and quite warm and— misty and murky in places and quite warm and humid. temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 temperatures holding up at 16 or n cetsius— temperatures holding up at 16 or n cam in— temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 celsius in-urban- temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 celsius in urban areas. 17 celsius in most urban areas. so 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a pretty— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a pretty warm,— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night— so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night titt— so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night iii a— so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night and a humid , mostly cloudy night and a humid, mostly cloudy start— night and a humid, mostly cloudy start to— night and a humid, mostly cloudy start to wednesday— night and a humid, mostly cloudy start to wednesday day. the titti— start to wednesday day. the titut witt— start to wednesday day. the cloud will thicken through the day cloud will thicken through the tty .— cloud will thicken through the tty . tuittei— cloud will thicken through the day . further pulses of heavy day. further pulses of heavy rain— day. further pulses of heavy coming— day. further pulses of heavy rain coming initially to rain coming in initially to

northern— rain coming in initially to northern -then. rain coming in initially to- northern -then spreading northern ireland, then spreading into _scotland. i into parts of southern scotland. some— into parts of southern scotland. some—england. into parts of southern scotland.| some—england and some showers over england and waits— some showers over england and waits-again— some showers over england and waits-again .— some showers over england and wales again , some heavy wales and again, some heavy met—tater- wales and again, some heavy met—tater on-l ones, particularly later on. titti— ones, particularly later on. mutt tt— ones, particularly later on. much of the— ones, particularly later on. much of the south and east of instant,— much of the south and east of instant tai— much of the south and east of england, far northwest , staying england, far northwest, staying dry, england, far northwest, staying tty, timing— england, far northwest, staying dry, turning fresher here, as i mentioned,— dry, turning fresher here, as i mentioned, but— dry, turning fresher here, as i mentioned, but quite warm and tumit— mentioned, but quite warm and tumit across— mentioned, but quite warm and humid across england and wales, mid humid across england and wales, mit zes— humid across england and wales, mit 20s iitsiy— humid across england and wales, mid 20s likely through the tttsmstn— mid 20s likely through the tttsmstn .— mid 20s likely through the afternoon . but— mid 20s likely through the afternoon . but that humidity may afternoon. but that humidity may wett— afternoon. but that humidity may wsii spatt— afternoon. but that humidity may well spark some— afternoon. but that humidity may well spark some heavier townptuts— well spark some heavier downpours the well spark some heavier- downpours-the afternoon downpours during the afternoon and downpours during the afternoon ant evening.— downpours during the afternoon and evening. parts of northeast england— and evening. parts of northeast england-eastern- england and eastern scotland tstsis— england and eastern scotland tstsis again— england and eastern scotland before again that all heads out into— before again that all heads out into tits— before again that all heads out into the north— before again that all heads out into the north sea and something tester— into the north sea and something tisstsi titt— into the north sea and something fresher and clearer— into the north sea and something fresher and clearer arrives for most— fresher and clearer arrives for most st— fresher and clearer arrives for most st us— fresher and clearer arrives for most st us on— fresher and clearer arrives for most of us on thursday morning. but you— most of us on thursday morning. but you notice— most of us on thursday morning. but you notice the— most of us on thursday morning. but you notice the cloud sticks arousi— but you notice the cloud sticks around across— but you notice the cloud sticks around across the _ but you notice the cloud sticks around across the southeast and it witt— around across the southeast and it uiii ts— around across the southeast and it wit it u— around across the southeast and it will be a warm,— around across the southeast and it will be a warm, humid night ters— it will be a warm, humid night tiers witt— it will be a warm, humid night here with some— it will be a warm, humid night here with some further outbreaks of here with some further outbreaks st tuit— here with some further outbreaks st sme— here with some further outbreaks of rain, some welcome rain tast— of rain, some welcome rain across east anglia in the southeast.— across east anglia in the southeast. it— across east anglia in the southeast. it may linger ustuuiiu— southeast. it may linger actually for— southeast. it may linger actually for much of thursday. some— actually for much of thursday. some question— actually for much of thursday. some question marks about exustiu— some question marks about sxustty uten— some question marks about exactly when that will clear tiutugt — exactly when that will clear through brighter skies elsewhere. _ through brighter skies elsewhere. for most sunny, a tester— elsewhere. for most sunny, a tester tau— elsewhere. for most sunny, a fresher day, there'll still be some showers— fresher day, there'll still be some showers across parts of the west— some showers across parts of the west in— some showers across parts of the west in particular.— some showers across parts of the west in particular. but as i sit,— west in particular. but as i sit, toi— west in particular. but as i said, for most— west in particular. but as i said, for most ,_ west in particular. but as i said, for most, we'll west in particular. but as i said, for most , we'll notice said, for most, we'll notice that— said, for most, we'll notice that fresher— said, for most, we'll notice that fresher feel- said, for most, we'll notice that fresher feel humidity that fresher feel that humidity trous— that fresher feel that humidity tress—utt-

that fresher feel that humidity- drops_and temperatures drops once more and temperatures will drops once more and temperatures wit-tutt— drops once more and temperatures will-back close— drops once more and temperatures will-back close to— drops once more and temperatures will back close to the will be back close to the aveiaee— will be back close to the age ter— will be back close to the average for late june. high