national game? but to our own national game? but before all of that , let's get before all of that, let's get the news with the wonderful polly middlehurst . the news with the wonderful polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you. good— polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you. good evening.— 3: nigel, thank you. good evening. well, the top story— you. good evening. well, the top story tonight— you. good evening. well, the top story tottgttt ott— you. good evening. well, the top story tonight on gb— you. good evening. well, the top story tonight on gb news is that tootttot— story tonight on gb news is that hospital consultants in england are hospital consultants in england to— hospital consultants in england to watt— hospital consultants in england are to walk out— hospital consultants in england are to walk out next month in ttott— are to walk out next month in ttott ttottto— are to walk out next month in their dispute over— are to walk out next month in their dispute over pay. members of their dispute over pay. members ot the— their dispute over pay. members of the british— their dispute over pay. members of the british medical association - of the british medical association voted in favour of ottttoo— association voted in favour of ottttoo on — association voted in favour of strikes on the— association voted in favour of strikes on the 20th and 21st of july— strikes on the 20th and 21st of july tttotss— strikes on the 20th and 21st of july tttosst o— strikes on the 20th and 21st of july unless a credible offer was totttoomttg— july unless a credible offer was forthcoming from _ july unless a credible offer was forthcoming from the government . moonwttto— forthcoming from the government . meanwhile, nurses strikes have ontot— . meanwhile, nurses strikes have ontot attor— . meanwhile, nurses strikes have ontot ottot o— . meanwhile, nurses strikes have ended after a ballot for further tnttstttot— ended after a ballot for further industrial action— ended after a ballot for further industrial action failed to meet the industrial action failed to meet to 50%_ industrial action failed to meet to soo. togot— industrial action failed to meet the 50% legal threshold. and the root— the 50% legal threshold. and the toyot college— the 50% legal threshold. and the royal college of— the 50% legal threshold. and the royal college of nursing says only— royal college of nursing says only onto— royal college of nursing says only osto cost— royal college of nursing says only 43% cast their vote in the tottot— only 43% cast their vote in the tottot .— only 43% cast their vote in the tottot . tno— only 43% cast their vote in the ballot . the health secretary ballot. the health secretary says— ballot. the health secretary soys nos— ballot. the health secretary says he's ready— ballot. the health secretary says he's ready to work with the tct — says he's ready to work with the tct . — says he's ready to work with the tct . wo— says he's ready to work with the rcn . we reached— says he's ready to work with the rcn . we reached a— says he's ready to work with the rcn . m; f: : says he's ready to work with the rcn . f: : rcn. we reached a deal with the nhs staff council that the majority of trade unions agreed to and i'm pleased that the rcn have now ended their industrial

action and we stand ready to work in partnership with the nhs staff council as a whole, but also with the rcn. there are a number of aspects of our deal with the agenda for change unions . we continue to work with unions. we continue to work with them and we stand ready to do so with the rcn. former health soototon— with the rcn. former health secretary matt— 30 former health secretary matt hancock has onttotsot— secretary matt hancock has criticised the _ secretary matt hancock has criticised the uk's pandemic otonntng— criticised the uk's pandemic planning before— criticised the uk's pandemic planning before covid 19 hit, song— planning before covid 19 hit, soytng not— planning before covid 19 hit, saying he'd judged it as completely— saying he'd judged it as completely wrong . the former completely wrong. the former noottn— completely wrong. the former health secretary— completely wrong. the former health secretary told the covid tnontn— health secretary told the covid inquiry totoy— health secretary told the covid inquiry today that— health secretary told the covid inquiry today that planning was tootssot— inquiry today that planning was tootssot on— inquiry today that planning was focussed on whether there were onongn — focussed on whether there were onotgn body— focussed on whether there were enough body bags rather than stotntng— enough body bags rather than stopptng tno— enough body bags rather than stopping the virus taking hold. he stopping the virus taking hold. no says— stopping the virus taking hold. no soys tt— stopping the virus taking hold. no soys tt nos— stopping the virus taking hold. he says it was a— stopping the virus taking hold. he says it was a colossal tottnto— he says it was a colossal tottnto to— he says it was a colossal failure to assume the spread of the failure to assume the spread of to onus— failure to assume the spread of the virus couldn't— failure to assume the spread of the virus couldn't be stopped ont— the virus couldn't be stopped and nos— the virus couldn't be stopped and he's profoundly sorry for ovon— and he's profoundly sorry for ototy tootn— and he's profoundly sorry for every death caused . well, also every death caused. well, also in every death caused. well, also tn tno— every death caused. well, also tn tno nons— every death caused. well, also in the news today— every death caused. well, also in the news today , the inquest in the news today, the inquest tnto— in the news today, the inquest tnto ntooto— in the news today, the inquest into nicola bullies death has oonotttot.— into nicola bullies death has concluded. the— into nicola bullies death has concluded. the mother of two ttot— concluded. the mother of two ttot tton — concluded. the mother of two died from accidental drowning. sonor— died from accidental drowning. senior coroner— died from accidental drowning. senior coroner dr. _ died from accidental drowning. senior coroner dr. james adley tott— senior coroner dr. james adley tott tno— senior coroner dr. james adley told the inquest— senior coroner dr. james adley told the inquest nicola bulley

fell told the inquest nicola bulley tott tnto— told the inquest nicola bulley fell into the— told the inquest nicola bulley fell into the cold— told the inquest nicola bulley fell into the cold water and otto— fell into the cold water and onto no— fell into the cold water and gave no indication of any tntontton— gave no indication of any intention to— gave no indication of any intention to take her own life. ms nutty— intention to take her own life. ms bully disappeared in january nntto— ms bully disappeared in january nntto notttno— ms bully disappeared in january while walking her dog along the noto— while walking her dog along the ere— while walking her dog along the nyto not— while walking her dog along the river wyre her body was found tntoo— river wyre her body was found tntoo nooks— river wyre her body was found three weeks later. _ river wyre her body was found three weeks later. lancashire police— three weeks later. lancashire pottoo soy— three weeks later. lancashire pottoo soy tnoy— three weeks later. lancashire police say they hope the inquiry nttt— police say they hope the inquiry nttt ont— police say they hope the inquiry nttt out on— police say they hope the inquiry will put an end— police say they hope the inquiry will put an end to— police say they hope the inquiry will put an end to the ill tntotnot— will put an end to the ill informed speculation which has noon— informed speculation which has toon so— informed speculation which has been so damaging to nikki's tontty— been so damaging to nikki's tontty .— been so damaging to nikki's tontty . non— been so damaging to nikki's family . now news away from home. family. now news away from home. the belarussian_ family. now news away from home. the belarussian president says the the belarussian president says to wagner— the belarussian president says the wagner group boss, yevgeny tngozntn — the wagner group boss, yevgeny nttgozntn ts— the wagner group boss, yevgeny prigozhin, is now— the wagner group boss, yevgeny prigozhin, is now in belarus . prigozhin, is now in belarus. atoxontot— prigozhin, is now in belarus. alexander lukashenko had previously— alexander lukashenko had previously offered the mercenary ontot— previously offered the mercenary ontot o— previously offered the mercenary chief a relocation— previously offered the mercenary chief a relocation deal helping to ont— chief a relocation deal helping to end saturday's— chief a relocation deal helping to end saturday's mutiny for moscow.— to end saturday's mutiny for moscow. wagner— to end saturday's mutiny for moscow. wagner troops were told tnoy— moscow. wagner troops were told tnoy conto— moscow. wagner troops were told they could either— moscow. wagner troops were told they could either join the tnsston— they could either join the russian army,— they could either join the russian army, move to belarus nttn— russian army, move to belarus nttn tnott— russian army, move to belarus with their leader— russian army, move to belarus with their leader or return to tnott— with their leader or return to their families. _ with their leader or return to their families. and that comes as tno— their families. and that comes as the kremlin— their families. and that comes as the kremlin says vladimir tnttn-s— as the kremlin says vladimir putin's position— as the kremlin says vladimir putin's position is not shaken by tno— putin's position is not shaken by the attempted coup . and as by the attempted coup. and as yon-to— by the attempted coup. and as yon-to noon— by the attempted coup. and as you've been hearing, gb news has ttotot— you've been hearing, gb news has ptotot up— you've been hearing, gb news has ptotot to o— you've been hearing, gb news has ptotot to o couple— you've been hearing, gb news has picked up a couple of tric twotst— picked up a couple of tric awards today. _ picked up a couple of tric awards today. gb news breakfast, one multichannel— awards today. gb news breakfast, one multichannel news program of the one multichannel news program of to yoon— one multichannel news program of to on ant— one multichannel news program of

to on ant ott— one multichannel news program of the year. and our very own nigel farage— the year. and our very own nigel farage nos— the year. and our very own nigel farage has nabbed— the year. and our very own nigel farage has nabbed news. tnosontot— farage has nabbed news. presenter of— farage has nabbed news. presenter of the year stephen moon— presenter of the year stephen otxon ont— presenter of the year stephen dixon and ellie— presenter of the year stephen dixon and ellie costello spoke to us— dixon and ellie costello spoke to us afterwards— dixon and ellie costello spoke to us afterwards . ti. to us afterwards. the public, they like what we do and it feels so nice to be up against stiff competition. doesn't it? yeah, like itv, like bbc . and yeah, like itv, like bbc. and it's us that steps away with the gong. it feels amazing, doesn't it? it feels really, really good in minute. i just it? it feels really, really good in minute. ijust love it? it feels really, really good in minute. i just love it. it? it feels really, really good in minute. ijust love it. i in a minute. ijust love it. i just want to be like, yeah, you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is gb news, the tootto-s— app. this is gb news, the tootto-s .— people's. channel lesso— people's. channel l good evening. people's. channel. . good evening. we people's. channel good evening. we are still a very, new channel. we've very, very new channel. we've been going for two years and i'd never done television before, although i'd said of course on the side of the desk often the other side of the desk often with people that i attended, today's awards with today's tric awards lunch with the television and radio industry club and often on the

other side of the table, i've been treated by them rather like a war criminal at times. so i've only been two years into this job and i'd never been to one of these big, big annual lunches that take place at the magnificent grosvenor in london. and it was extraordinary. 1700 people there. and people on the stage saying, aren't we wonderful? aren't we? so great? isn't this all lovely backslapping congratulate station a love is lovely do on a scale you simply can't believe. and it was all going really rather swimmingly. well at least according to those that have organised it all. but the tric awards made one big mistake this year right ? rather than the year right? rather than the casting vote on who wins various categories is being decided by the industry themselves . wolves the industry themselves. wolves in their own committee, they put it out to a public vote and they hadnt it out to a public vote and they hadn't really reckoned. i think, on what gb news might do shock number one. and boy, it was a shock, was when gb news

breakfast won. and that is just the most incredible achievement. i mean, good morning britain, which is a very heavily funded programme that's been going for years and yet it and yet the pubuc years and yet it and yet the public voted for gb news breakfast and that is an absolutely massive credit to the midweek and the weekend teams. and then it came to news presenter of the year and it was a very august cast. of course we had susanna reid and the great, if you believe it, because he often says it. piers morgan, myself and stephen dixon and eamonn holmes as well . so three eamonn holmes as well. so three of the five that made the shortlist that were from gb news, you would have thought the industry was beginning to get a bit of a hint. well i won and i won. not really because of me, but because of you. and we asked you again and again if you wanted to back me to go on to the tric website to vote five times. we crashed the website. there was some saying that it

was clearly going to be a rigged election , but in the end it election, but in the end it proved that it wasn't. and they were astonished by the number of people that engaged and voted in this process. so, look, i am delighted, thrilled as a new boy in television to have won this award . but this is more about award. but this is more about you making the effort to vote for me than it is about me. so of course , my moment came to get of course, my moment came to get up of course, my moment came to get up and give a speech and i thought, well, i'm going to be as magnanimous in victory as i possibly can. and i thanked all those that have voted for me, especially those that lived outside the m25 kyiv little dig, those that live in central london. but then i couldn't resist having a go at something called barb. i know you've neven called barb. i know you've never, ever heard of it, but all the figures for television viewing , whether it's news or viewing, whether it's news or entertainment or whatever it may be, all of it comes out through an organisation called barb .

an organisation called barb. barb are 5300 boxes that are in people's homes around the country. and guess who owns the organisation that publish the viewing figures ? all of the viewing figures? all of the other broadcasters , as they are other broadcasters, as they are allowed effectively to choose the panel and to mark their own homework and how can you judge in a country of 66 million people? well, at least that's what we know of. how can we judge that audience by just 5300 boxes? the whole thing is a complete and utter farce and bearin complete and utter farce and bear in mind, this industry is worth 12 to £15 billion every single year. there are massive advertising revenue that come off the back of those barb figures, but that's the way it's been forever. and nobody has ever got up and challenged it. now i know myself from my years leading ukip when the opinion polls consist underestimated where we were , that the where we were, that the establishment doesn't like

newcomers. so i basically told them their fortune. it felt at times like i was back in the european parliament. here's a short clip of what i had to say to a very complacent, self—congratulatory television industry. this industry is worth between about 12 and £15 billion every year, and it matters culturally. it matters in so many ways in our country. and yet at the way we measure who is watching and who is listening to programmes is completely out of touch and out of date . this is touch and out of date. this is i had much louder than this in the european parliament. sir, i am disappointed . the idea that barb disappointed. the idea that barb the idea that barb from which all the advertising is set is owned by the existing broadcasters means the industry is marking its own homework . the

is marking its own homework. the idea that 5300 boxes across the country. oh, i can hear the nono— country. oh, i can hear the noise . there's— country. oh, i can hear the noise . there's a- country. oh, i can hear the noise . there's a lot- ti.t:::t. oh, i can hear the noise . there's a lot of money tititt. oh, i can hear the noise . there's a lot of money at noise. there's a lot of money at stato— noise. there's a lot of money at stoto .— noise. there's a lot of money at stoto . tnoto-s— noise. there's a lot of money at stake . there's a— noise. there's a lot of money at stake . there's a lot— noise. there's a lot of money at stake . there's a lot of money at stake. there's a lot of money at stato— stake. there's a lot of money at stoto .— stake. there's a lot of money at stoto . any— stake. there's a lot of money at stake . any idea— stake. there's a lot of money at stake . any idea of— stake. there's a lot of money at stake . any idea of competition stake. any idea of competition ont— stake. any idea of competition and you— stake. any idea of competition and you should— stake. any idea of competition and you should shout and you snottt— and you should shout and you snottt to— and you should shout and you should be frightened because you will should be frightened because you nttt toso— should be frightened because you nttt toso yout— should be frightened because you will lose your jobs.— should be frightened because you will lose your jobs. i will lose yourjobs. because i tott— will lose yourjobs. because i can tell you this, but barb is wrong. and we need reform of tnts— wrong. and we need reform of no syston— wrong. and we need reform of tnts syston . — wrong. and we need reform of this system . we— wrong. and we need reform of this system . we need- 3 and we need reform of this system . �*ft�*tz; : cit" this system. we need oh, look, there we are. we need the heavies have come . to mbappe. heavies have come. to mbappe. you are. they just wanted to snot— you are. they just wanted to sntt no— you are. they just wanted to shut me down— you are. they just wanted to shut me down for stating a self otttots— shut me down for stating a self obvious truth— shut me down for stating a self obvious truth that— shut me down for stating a self obvious truth that the way we tv— obvious truth that the way we measure tv audiences is bent. to— measure tv audiences is bent. to noto— measure tv audiences is bent. to ttoto .— measure tv audiences is bent. to ttoto . tt-s— measure tv audiences is bent. it's broke , it's out— measure tv audiences is bent. it's broke , it's out of- measure tv audiences is bent. it's broke , it's out of date.- measure tv audiences is bent. it's broke, it's out of date. it doesn't work. and i know something from all my years in pubuc something from all my years in public life gb news out there not only is attracted an audience that love the output from this channel, the balance they get from this channel, but

it's a lot, lot bigger than the industry dares to admit it. i really did touch upon that nerve today. they hated it. they screamed. they shouted, gosh, i enjoyed it . cheers, everybody . enjoyed it. cheers, everybody. so tell me, is gb news winning? let me know your thoughts. farage at gb news .com now on other matters , matt hancock . not other matters, matt hancock. not necessarily a great favourite of mine. spent three hours today in front of the covid inquiry. it would seem that he is unapologetic about anything he did as health minister through that crisis. indeed, he believes we've got to be ready to impose wider , earlier, more stringent wider, earlier, more stringent lockdowns. the next time a pandemic comes or the next time the world health organisation tells us that we need to do these things. roy lily , former these things. roy lily, former nhs trust chairman and health commentator, joins me down the

line from east london. roy thank you for joining line from east london. roy thank you forjoining me. it seems that matt hancock , it's a case that matt hancock, it's a case of regret. ryan he doesn't regret anything that was done. what's your take on his defence of lockdowns and his belief that next time they must be even harsher ? well, good evening, harsher? well, good evening, ttgot— harsher? well, good evening, ttgot ont— ”7’ well, good evening, nigel, and congratulations. and i'm nigel, and congratulations. and tn nonottot— nigel, and congratulations. and i'm honoured to— nigel, and congratulations. and i'm honoured to be your first gtost— i'm honoured to be your first goost otto— i'm honoured to be your first guest after your— i'm honoured to be your first guest after your beatification by yout— guest after your beatification by your tnttstry— guest after your beatification by your industry . um look, by your industry. um look, i mean, i've watched a lot of ms— mean, i've watched a lot of tnts os— mean, i've watched a lot of tnts as you— mean, i've watched a lot of this, as you can— mean, i've watched a lot of this, as you can imagine, and too— this, as you can imagine, and too notonot— this, as you can imagine, and i've watched hunt and others and tnoy-ro— i've watched hunt and others and tnoy-ro ott— i've watched hunt and others and tnoy-ro ott trytng— i've watched hunt and others and they're all trying to— i've watched hunt and others and they're all trying to distance tnonsottos— they're all trying to distance themselves from the difficult tootstons— themselves from the difficult decisions that— themselves from the difficult decisions that were made . and i decisions that were made. and i tntnt— decisions that were made. and i tntnt tno— decisions that were made. and i think the lockdown question rootty— think the lockdown question rootty tnot— think the lockdown question really that will— think the lockdown question really that will be probably gono— really that will be probably gono tnto— really that will be probably gono tnto tn— really that will be probably gone into in more detail when tnoy— gone into in more detail when tnoy got— gone into in more detail when tnoy got tno— gone into in more detail when they get the second stage of tnto— they get the second stage of tnts tno— they get the second stage of this, the technical issues of it. this, the technical issues of t. wnot— this, the technical issues of it. what really— this, the technical issues of it. what really struck me, ttgot— it. what really struck me, ttgot. nos— it. what really struck me, nigel, was from watching it all ont— nigel, was from watching it all and not— nigel, was from watching it all and not just— nigel, was from watching it all and not just from _ nigel, was from watching it all

and not just from hancock, but but and not just from hancock, but tut t— and not just from hancock, but tut t tntnt— and not just from hancock, but but i think particularly hancock totoy— but i think particularly hancock totoy ts— but i think particularly hancock totoy ts tno— but i think particularly hancock today is the extent to which we were unprepared— today is the extent to which we were unprepared for this. now i tell were unprepared for this. now i tott yon— were unprepared for this. now i tott you .— were unprepared for this. now i tott you . os— were unprepared for this. now i tott you . as o— were unprepared for this. now i tell you , as a former leader of tell you, as a former leader of a tell you, as a former leader of o connot— tell you, as a former leader of a council and— tell you, as a former leader of a council and the— tell you, as a former leader of a council and the chairman of a noottn— a council and the chairman of a health authority,— a council and the chairman of a health authority, i've done the oostng— health authority, i've done the oostno otto— health authority, i've done the easing wild resilience training. it easing wild resilience training. tt nos— easing wild resilience training. tt rt— easing wild resilience training. tt tt os— easing wild resilience training. it was it was called civil totonoo— it was it was called civil defence in _ it was it was called civil defence in my- it was it was called civil defence in my day and i've done tnts— defence in my day and i've done tnts tnts— defence in my day and i've done this, this similar— defence in my day and i've done this, this similar thing to the onorotton— this, this similar thing to the operation cygnet that they've toon — operation cygnet that they've toon totttno— operation cygnet that they've been talking about during the cont— been talking about during the cont tnontry— been talking about during the covid inquiry. that's the, the knot— covid inquiry. that's the, the ttnt ot— covid inquiry. that's the, the kind of scenario— covid inquiry. that's the, the kind of scenario planning that tnoy— kind of scenario planning that tnoy to— kind of scenario planning that tnoy to to— kind of scenario planning that they do to prepare for an onoroonoy— they do to prepare for an onoroonoy .— they do to prepare for an emergency . when i did it, it was emergency. when i did it, it was tnts— emergency. when i did it, it was no os— emergency. when i did it, it was no o— emergency. when i did it, it was no o tong— emergency. when i did it, it was this was a long time ago when i did this was a long time ago when i on t.— this was a long time ago when i on t. t— this was a long time ago when i on t. tt os— this was a long time ago when i did it. it was only— this was a long time ago when i did it. it was only really oont— did it. it was only really oont o— did it. it was only really around a flu— did it. it was only really around a flu pandemic. and the exercise comes— around a flu pandemic. and the exercise comes to— around a flu pandemic. and the exercise comes to an end very ontotty— exercise comes to an end very ontotty tooso— exercise comes to an end very quickly because there's a tnoro-s— quickly because there's a tnoro-s o— quickly because there's a there's a flu— quickly because there's a there's a flu jab and everybody tots— there's a flu jab and everybody oots tottor— there's a flu jab and everybody gets better quickly. and onorytooy— gets better quickly. and everybody gets back to work. i tt-s— everybody gets back to work. i to o— everybody gets back to work. i mean, it's a table— everybody gets back to work. i mean, it's a table top exercise, tnt— mean, it's a table top exercise, tot rt— mean, it's a table top exercise, tot tt ts— mean, it's a table top exercise, but it is basically— but it is basically fundamentally it was around but it is basically— fundamentally it was around flu . wnot— fundamentally it was around flu . no no— fundamentally it was around flu . what we were— fundamentally it was around flu . what we were dealing with with cont. — . what we were dealing with with

cont. ot— . what we were dealing with with covid, of course,— . what we were dealing with with covid, of course, is— . what we were dealing with with covid, of course, is what they cott— covid, of course, is what they not o— covid, of course, is what they not o nonot— covid, of course, is what they call a novel inaya_ covid, of course, is what they call a novel inaya section. that means a new infection that we noront— means a new infection that we oont prepared— means a new infection that we weren't prepared for a lot of rootsto— weren't prepared for a lot of ww“! tn— weren't prepared for a lot of ww“! tn tno— weren't prepared for a lot of people in the early days of cont— people in the early days of covid thought— people in the early days of covid thought that it was transmitted _ covid thought that it was transmitted by touch . actually, transmitted by touch. actually, it transmitted by touch. actually, tt tornot— transmitted by touch. actually, tt tnrnot ont— transmitted by touch. actually, it turned out to— transmitted by touch. actually, it turned out to be droplets and air transmitted— it turned out to be droplets and air transmitted .— it turned out to be droplets and air transmitted . and it just air transmitted. and it just sooot— air transmitted. and it just sooot to— air transmitted. and it just seemed to me— air transmitted. and it just seemed to me that we were oonotototy— seemed to me that we were completely unprepared with the scenario that— completely unprepared with the scenario that they used . scenario that they used. moreover, i— scenario that they used. moreover, i tell you the other stontont— moreover, i tell you the other standout thing— moreover, i tell you the other standout thing about hancock, he was standout thing about hancock, he nory— standout thing about hancock, he nory .— standout thing about hancock, he nory . nory— standout thing about hancock, he was very , very frank about the was very, very frank about the rotottonsntn— was very, very frank about the relationship between the ooponnont— relationship between the department of health and social ton. yon— department of health and social care. now, you will— department of health and social care. now, you will recall that tnoy— care. now, you will recall that tnoy noo— care. now, you will recall that they were originally the ooponnont— they were originally the department of health, and then tnoy— department of health, and then tnoy tooooo— department of health, and then tnoy tooooo on— department of health, and then they tagged on this and social tnt— they tagged on this and social ttt .— they tagged on this and social care bit . well,— they tagged on this and social care bit . well, it's really only care bit. well, it's really only tno— care bit. well, it's really only to nono— care bit. well, it's really only the name over— care bit. well, it's really only the name over the shop front tooso— the name over the shop front because social— the name over the shop front because social care is still run by tooot— because social care is still run by local government. it's still nory— by local government. it's still very disaggregated . and when he very disaggregated. and when he sort— very disaggregated. and when he sott nnon— very disaggregated. and when he said when hancock said, i didn't even know how— said when hancock said, i didn't even know how many care homes we had.— even know how many care homes we not. t— even know how many care homes we not. t tnonont— even know how many care homes we not. t tnonont .— even know how many care homes we had, i thought , well,— even know how many care homes we had, i thought , well, how the had, i thought, well, how the tott— had, i thought, well, how the non ott— had, i thought, well, how the not on no— had, i thought, well, how the hell did he stand— had, i thought, well, how the hell did he stand on the television— hell did he stand on the television and- hell did he stand on the television and say, i'm going to put my— television and say, i'm going to out my orns—

television and say, i'm going to put my arms around the care nonosn— put my arms around the care nonos? no— put my arms around the care homes? he didn't know how many non— homes? he didn't know how many non nony— homes? he didn't know how many non nony os— homes? he didn't know how many how many was going to have to put how many was going to have to not-oronnt. - how many was going to have to not-oronnt. t- how many was going to have to put around. i mean, put his arms around. i mean, i tnonont— put his arms around. i mean, i tnonont tno— put his arms around. i mean, i thought the whole— put his arms around. i mean, i thought the whole thing was nory— thought the whole thing was very,-revealing- thought the whole thing was very, revealing . gilt?" very, very revealing. so, yeah, not— very, very revealing. so, yeah, not prepared. and i fully understand that argument . but understand that argument. but roy, the defence of lockdown, the insistence that if this happens again, the lockdown must be harder and faster. and i mean, surely to goodness we've learned that the cost on the other side of the equation of lockdowns was far worse than anything covid could have wreaked . anything covid could have wreaked. there's anything covid could have wreaked . there's no question wreaked. there's no question otont— wreaked. there's no question otont rt.— wreaked. there's no question otont t. t— wreaked. there's no question about it. i mean,— : there's no question about it. i mean, we're seeing it about it. i mean, we're seeing tt tn— about it. i mean, we're seeing tt tn or— about it. i mean, we're seeing it in our school— about it. i mean, we're seeing it in our school kids. we're soorno— it in our school kids. we're soorno rt— it in our school kids. we're soorno tt tn— it in our school kids. we're seeing it in mental health. noro— seeing it in mental health. no-ro soorno— seeing it in mental health. we're seeing it— seeing it in mental health. we're seeing it in recovery , we're seeing it in recovery, going— we're seeing it in recovery, going toot— we're seeing it in recovery, going took to— we're seeing it in recovery, going back to work. and the tnnoot— going back to work. and the tnnoot ot— going back to work. and the impact of some— going back to work. and the impact of some of the long covid as impact of some of the long covid os nou— impact of some of the long covid os nott ts— impact of some of the long covid as well is really— impact of some of the long covid as well is really still very trontttno. — as well is really still very trontttno. t— as well is really still very troubling. i think the truth is nnot— troubling. i think the truth is no .— troubling. i think the truth is what i think,— troubling. i think the truth is what i think, nigel, is that we rootty— what i think, nigel, is that we rootty stit— what i think, nigel, is that we really still don't— what i think, nigel, is that we really still don't understand ont— really still don't understand ont nnot— really still don't understand and what we're— really still don't understand and what we're dealing with at andr— and what we're dealing with at ont. yon— and what we're dealing with at ono. yon nnon— and what we're dealing with at and, you know, the impact of tong— and, you know, the impact of tong cont.— and, you know, the impact of long covid. when— and, you know, the impact of long covid. when i talk to

rootsto— long covid. when i talk to pebble ont— long covid. when i talk to people and people have had oyostont— people and people have had eyesight difficulties, people nono— eyesight difficulties, people too not.— eyesight difficulties, people have had, you— eyesight difficulties, people have had, you know, all kinds of uto— have had, you know, all kinds of ttto nornt— have had, you know, all kinds of like weird, quirky— have had, you know, all kinds of like weird, quirky things that nono—tnoni like weird, quirky things that- have _them. after have gone wrong with them. after cont. — have gone wrong with them. after conttlnonon-t— have gone wrong with them. after covid, . haven't we _ have gone wrong with them. after covid, haven't we didn't covid, we haven't we didn't nntorstont— covid, we haven't we didn't understand it.— covid, we haven't we didn't understand it. we didn't deal nttn— understand it. we didn't deal non-non.— understand it. we didn't deal with -well. and- understand it. we didn't deal with well. and there's with it very well. and there's a big—over- with it very well. and there's a. big _over lockdown. big question mark over lockdown. i big question mark over lockdown. t tntnt— big question mark over lockdown. t tntnt yoo— big question mark over lockdown. i think you're right.— big question mark over lockdown. i think you're right. �*ft�*tzge i think you're right. well, you mentioned eyesight. i one mentioned eyesight. i mean, one thing, example, know we thing, for example, know we stopped testing for stopped diabetes testing for about 18 months during the pandemic, all sorts of other problems. roy, with your problems. roy, with all your years experience in health years of experience in health care , local government, what do care, local government, what do you look at the hancock performance in government and today before that committee, let me ask you, how many marks out of ten do you give hancock for competency , for competency, for competency, for competency, for dephen competency, for competency, for depher, for sincerity ? um , i depher, for sincerity? um, i think he has been- t ti.t::; .j’ um, i think he has been emotionally tononot— think he has been emotionally tononot ty— think he has been emotionally touched by what— think he has been emotionally touched by what has happened . he touched by what has happened. he not— touched by what has happened. he trtot ottor— touched by what has happened. he tried after his— touched by what has happened. he tried after his evidence to go ont— tried after his evidence to go ont tott— tried after his evidence to go ont tott to— tried after his evidence to go and talk to the— tried after his evidence to go and talk to the families , but and talk to the families, but tnoy— and talk to the families, but tnoy noo— and talk to the families, but they were having none of it. noon— they were having none of it. noon so.— they were having none of it. noon so. t— they were having none of it. yeah so, i mean,— they were having none of it. yeah so, i mean, it's very hard, nory— yeah so, i mean, it's very hard, nory oosy— yeah so, i mean, it's very hard, nory oosy. t— yeah so, i mean, it's very hard, very easy, i think,— yeah so, i mean, it's very hard, very easy, i think, to be oyntoot— very easy, i think, to be cynical about- very easy, i think, to be cynical about all politicians

tooso— cynical about all politicians because some— cynical about all politicians because some of them, you know, nort— because some of them, you know, nort tno— because some of them, you know, nort tno syston— because some of them, you know, work the system .— because some of them, you know, work the system . um, and, you work the system. um, and, you nnon— work the system. um, and, you know. not— work the system. um, and, you know. tot .— work the system. um, and, you know. tot . tnt— work the system. um, and, you know, but , but i— work the system. um, and, you know, but, but i think, i think nnot— know, but, but i think, i think no t— know, but, but i think, i think no t to— know, but, but i think, i think what i do give— know, but, but i think, i think what i do give him higher marks for what i do give him higher marks tor t— what i do give him higher marks tor t nonttn-t— what i do give him higher marks for i wouldn't say— what i do give him higher marks for i wouldn't say full marks . what i do give him higher marks for i wouldn't say full marks. i ton-t— for i wouldn't say full marks. i ton-t tntnt— for i wouldn't say full marks. i don't think he's— for i wouldn't say full marks. i don't think he's a— for i wouldn't say full marks. i don't think he's a winner , if don't think he's a winner, if i tnot— don't think he's a winner, if i can use that metaphor tonight. i ton-t— can use that metaphor tonight. i ton-t tntnt— can use that metaphor tonight. i don't think he's— can use that metaphor tonight. i don't think he's a— can use that metaphor tonight. i don't think he's a winner for in. don't think he's a winner for n not— don't think he's a winner for n not .— don't think he's a winner for n not t to— don't think he's a winner for in. but i do think- don't think he's a winner for in. but i do think he was very nont— in. but i do think he was very tront tn— in. but i do think he was very frank in revealing— in. but i do think he was very frank in revealing the chaos tnot— frank in revealing the chaos tnot tnoro— frank in revealing the chaos that there is— frank in revealing the chaos that there is in— frank in revealing the chaos that there is in some of the oonntttoos— that there is in some of the committees and— that there is in some of the committees and their subcommittees . yeah. i mean, subcommittees. yeah. i mean, tt-s— subcommittees. yeah. i mean, to too— subcommittees. yeah. i mean, to too oono— subcommittees. yeah. i mean, it's too arcane to— subcommittees. yeah. i mean, it's too arcane to go into now, not— it's too arcane to go into now, not t— it's too arcane to go into now, not t noon— it's too arcane to go into now, not t .— it's too arcane to go into now, but i mean, i watched it and i on— but i mean, i watched it and i on tontttor— but i mean, i watched it and i am familiar with— but i mean, i watched it and i am familiar with some of those strnstnros— am familiar with some of those structures and— am familiar with some of those structures and they do need a tomb— structures and they do need a tomb ontttno— structures and they do need a bomb putting under them. they rootty— bomb putting under them. they rootty to.— bomb putting under them. they rootty to. ant— bomb putting under them. they really do. and we— bomb putting under them. they really do. and we need to clear out— really do. and we need to clear out tno— really do. and we need to clear out the undergrowth and make oonornnont— out the undergrowth and make government much straighter. tnoro-s— government much straighter. tnoro-s no— government much straighter. there's no line— government much straighter. there's no line of sight for the soorotory— there's no line of sight for the soorotory ot— there's no line of sight for the secretary of state— there's no line of sight for the secretary of state through to a care home. there's no line of storm— care home. there's no line of stont tnronon— care home. there's no line of sight through to _ care home. there's no line of sight through to community care. and sight through to community care. ant tnot-s— sight through to community care. ant tnot-s tno— sight through to community care. and that's the kind of thing you,— and that's the kind of thing you. os— and that's the kind of thing yon. os yon— and that's the kind of thing you, as you know, you can't onoto— you, as you know, you can't manage anything unless you've got manage anything unless you've tot tno— manage anything unless you've got ttno ot— manage anything unless you've got line of sight. _ manage anything unless you've got line of sight. ?t:::t manage anything unless you've got line of sight. 3t:::t let; got line of sight. roy lilley, thank you for being my first guest after the tric awards. thank you very much. it's an

honour indeed. roy , you honour indeed. well, roy, you know, praising hancock, there , i know, praising hancock, there, i think what really got my goat was when hancock said it was madness is that that he had to overrule rule initial advice not to quarantine people coming in from china. he also blamed the w.h.o. from china. he also blamed the who. for having written into w.h.o. for having written into international health regulations , ones that you shouldn't close border doors. yeah, but you know what, matt? you were very, very slow to do it. and here's the point . the british government point. the british government which we thought after brexit was going to be absolutely sovereign, doesn't appear to have the confidence to stand up and speak for itself without looking over its shoulder at what is being said by the who. the eu, the un, or anybody else in a moment. it's an old row reheated. it's the airport at gibraltar gibber alter who have found the whole brexit process very, very tough and the upcoming spanish elections could make it just a little bit

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to gb news radio. well, please otton— to gb news radio. well, please otton ts— to gb news radio. well, please otton us to— to gb news radio. well, please allow us to glow— to gb news radio. well, please allow us to glow for— [15 \r 3d: well, please allow us to glow for just [15 \r 3d: well, please allow us to glow forjust a allow us to glow for just a ttttto— allow us to glow for just a little moment— allow us to glow for just a little moment after a very stooossttt— little moment after a very successful day— little moment after a very successful day for this tortoontnt— successful day for this burgeoning news channel. some rosonsost tnot— burgeoning news channel. some responses that are— burgeoning news channel. some responses that are coming , responses that are coming, totoron— responses that are coming, totoron on— responses that are coming, deborah on twitter says otsotttoty— deborah on twitter says absolutely brilliant. i never tsot— absolutely brilliant. i never tsot to— absolutely brilliant. i never used to watch— absolutely brilliant. i never used to watch the news until at gb used to watch the news until at on tons— used to watch the news until at on tons ono— used to watch the news until at gb news came along . i love you gb news came along. i love you ott— gb news came along. i love you on. nony— gb news came along. i love you all. many congratulations to tttot— all. many congratulations to tttot tor— all. many congratulations to no tor your— all. many congratulations to nigel for your fantastic win and tottor— nigel for your fantastic win and even better speech. also, ellie costotto— even better speech. also, ellie costotto ont— even better speech. also, ellie costello and stephen dixon and all costello and stephen dixon and ot tno— costello and stephen dixon and ot tno otnor— costello and stephen dixon and all the other fantastic presenters, - all the other fantastic presenters, phil via email says not— presenters, phil via email says not tono— presenters, phil via email says well done, nigel.— presenters, phil via email says well done, nigel. you can see by a well done, nigel. you can see by o motto— well done, nigel. you can see by a mass media and— well done, nigel. you can see by a mass media and champagne sootot— a mass media and champagne sootot tst— a mass media and champagne social ist, they're— a mass media and champagne social ist, they're trapped in tort— social ist, they're trapped in tnotr onn— social ist, they're trapped in their own self—image importance and their own self—image importance ont ott— their own self—image importance ont ott ot— their own self—image importance and out of touch— their own self—image importance and out of touch with the common ont— and out of touch with the common man and woman. they're partly rosnonsttto— man and woman. they're partly responsible for— man and woman. they're partly responsible for destroying the tnttot— responsible for destroying the united kingdom, which they seem to noto— united kingdom, which they seem to noto. tnoy— united kingdom, which they seem to hate. they don't— united kingdom, which they seem to hate. they don't like it. not— to hate. they don't like it. not .— to hate. they don't like it. well i think— to hate. they don't like it. well i think you're right, phil, oottotty— well i think you're right, phil, oottotty .— well i think you're right, phil, oottotty . os—

well i think you're right, phil, actually , as corporal jones actually, as corporal jones nottt— actually, as corporal jones would have— actually, as corporal jones would have said, they don't like it would have said, they don't like t on— would have said, they don't like t on orn— would have said, they don't like t on o— would have said, they don't like t to o ttt— would have said, they don't like it up em, a bit of— would have said, they don't like it up em, a bit of which we saw totoy— it up em, a bit of which we saw totoy. ton— it up em, a bit of which we saw today. now gibraltar, ever since the today. now gibraltar, ever since to trooty— today. now gibraltar, ever since to trooty ot— today. now gibraltar, ever since the treaty of utrecht, there nono— the treaty of utrecht, there too toon— the treaty of utrecht, there have been many, many spanish nononont— have been many, many spanish vehement and— have been many, many spanish vehement and vehement comments otott— vehement and vehement comments about gibraltar— vehement and vehement comments about gibraltar and— vehement and vehement comments about gibraltar and its sonorotnt— about gibraltar and its sovereign status . but this has sovereign status. but this has toon— sovereign status. but this has toon tostot— sovereign status. but this has been tested in— sovereign status. but this has been tested in referenda and to my rnornory— been tested in referenda and to my rnornory tno— been tested in referenda and to my memory, the last one that sort— my memory, the last one that sott ttt— my memory, the last one that said, did gibraltar want to stay nttn— said, did gibraltar want to stay nttn tno— said, did gibraltar want to stay nttn tno unt— said, did gibraltar want to stay with the uk? 98— said, did gibraltar want to stay with the uk? 98 or 99% said yes. ant— with the uk? 98 or 99% said yes. ant yot— with the uk? 98 or 99% said yes. ant yot tnoro — with the uk? 98 or 99% said yes. and yet there are— with the uk? 98 or 99% said yes. and yet there are forthcoming stontsn— and yet there are forthcoming spanish elections. all across torono. — spanish elections. all across europe- tnoro— spanish elections. all across europe. there is— spanish elections. all across europe. there is a move more tonorts— europe. there is a move more tonorts tno— europe. there is a move more towards the nationalist right ont— towards the nationalist right ont tnoro— towards the nationalist right ont tnoro ts— towards the nationalist right and there is a— towards the nationalist right and there is a party called vox tnot— and there is a party called vox to noy— and there is a party called vox to noy not— and there is a party called vox that may well hold the balance of that may well hold the balance ot tonor— that may well hold the balance ot tonor noot— that may well hold the balance of power next time round. they are of power next time round. they not— of power next time round. they are well frankly— of power next time round. they are well frankly abusive about ottrottor.— are well frankly abusive about gibraltar. they— are well frankly abusive about gibraltar. they say they want to stttoooto — gibraltar. they say they want to suffocate the _ gibraltar. they say they want to suffocate the territory and rototn— suffocate the territory and regain sovereignty over it. well all regain sovereignty over it. well ott tnts— regain sovereignty over it. well ott tnts ts— regain sovereignty over it. well all this is difficult— regain sovereignty over it. well all this is difficult and above an.— all this is difficult and above ott tt-s— all this is difficult and above ott tt-s tno— all this is difficult and above all, it's the airstrip. if you nonon-t— all, it's the airstrip. if you haven't been— all, it's the airstrip. if you haven't been there before, it's

an haven't been there before, it's on otrstrtn— haven't been there before, it's an airstrip with— haven't been there before, it's an airstrip with water either stto. — an airstrip with water either stto. rt— an airstrip with water either stto. tt yot— an airstrip with water either stto. rt you to— an airstrip with water either side. if you go to jib and yoo— side. if you go to jib and you're landing,- side. if you go to jib and you're landing, to best close your— you're landing, to best close your oyos— you're landing, to best close your oyos tn— you're landing, to best close your oyos tn ny— you're landing, to best close your eyes in my experience, tootoso— your eyes in my experience, tootoso rt— your eyes in my experience, because it can— your eyes in my experience, because it can be a bit scary tostoso— because it can be a bit scary because often— because it can be a bit scary because often you go around for 2 because often you go around for z or— because often you go around for z or t— because often you go around for z or t ttnos— because often you go around for 2 or 3 times what— because often you go around for 2 or 3 times what a— because often you go around for 2 or 3 times what a man who knows— 2 or 3 times what a man who knows o— 2 or 3 times what a man who knows o ttt— 2 or 3 times what a man who knows a bit more— 2 or 3 times what a man who knows a bit more about this than i knows a bit more about this than t to— knows a bit more about this than t to ts— knows a bit more about this than t to ts too— knows a bit more about this than i do is lee rotherham, former otttson— i do is lee rotherham, former otntsor. 0t— i do is lee rotherham, former adviser. of course,— i do is lee rotherham, former adviser. of course, to the conservatives _ adviser. of course, to the conservatives on european attotrs— conservatives on european attotrs ont— conservatives on european affairs and a— conservatives on european affairs and a veteran of the torosoontto— affairs and a veteran of the eurosceptic movement at lee . we eurosceptic movement at lee. we tnot— eurosceptic movement at lee. we tnot nront.— eurosceptic movement at lee. we were that night, the— eurosceptic movement at lee. we were that night, the 31st of yonnory— were that night, the 31st of yonnory mo.— were that night, the 31st of january 2020. we were overjoyed tnot— january 2020. we were overjoyed to not— january 2020. we were overjoyed to not tott— january 2020. we were overjoyed that we'd left. but— january 2020. we were overjoyed that we'd left. but we knew that our that we'd left. but we knew that trtonts— that we'd left. but we knew that trtonts tn— that we'd left. but we knew that our friends in northern ireland noront— our friends in northern ireland weren't celebrating and also our trtonts— weren't celebrating and also our trtonts tn— weren't celebrating and also our friends in gibraltar had very big friends in gibraltar had very ttt nornos— friends in gibraltar had very big worries about what brexit ont— big worries about what brexit ont ton— big worries about what brexit ont ton ny— big worries about what brexit meant. now my argument always trott— meant. now my argument always not to — meant. now my argument always was, well, the spanish are being toostty— was, well, the spanish are being toostty to— was, well, the spanish are being toostty to you— was, well, the spanish are being beastly to you for— was, well, the spanish are being beastly to you for decades onynoy. — beastly to you for decades onynoy. nnot— beastly to you for decades anyway. what difference will it noron— anyway. what difference will it notot tnt— anyway. what difference will it make? but this— anyway. what difference will it make? but this threat to the otton— make? but this threat to the otrtort ts— make? but this threat to the otrtort ts oory— make? but this threat to the airport is very real, isn't it? to— airport is very real, isn't it? to o— airport is very real, isn't it? to o tong— airport is very real, isn't it? it's a long standing- airport is very real, isn't it? it's a long standing one.- airport is very real, isn't it? it's a long standing one. it's separate from the traditional spanish claim on the rock itself, because as long story short, it was historically a bit of neutral ground us, which we

built on in 38, and we did so with very good cause because of what happened the following year . and frankly, my sympathies for i would have some sympathy with for spanish of the for the spanish side of the argument apart from franco argument apart from what franco then did during the following years. so my sympathy levels are lower . plus on the spanish side lower. plus on the spanish side as well. la linea has has encroached onto their side of the former neutral zone. and there's a legal argument both ways on this because it's been which has been going on for a couple of hundred years. that said that there is a historical all toing and froing from nationalists when they get into the spanish government. this is nothing new. and on one level, i mean, you mentioned vox, i mean vox, i suppose you could argue is a sort of a trumpian spanish offshoot of the partido popular , which is the conservatives in spain and the centre right in spain and the centre right in spain doing very well in the polls. they are to a point, if

you actually dig into it, it looks more like there's a bit of a loss for the for the spanish socialists in terms of the end results. the polling looks a bit more like a loss for the independence liberals and some of the some of the regional groupings more than a collapse of the of the left right so that's that's that's a that's a feature of why the elections are being called early because of some some bad policy calls and legislative mistakes by the spanish government has spanish government which has has whacked them hard. now with respect however to what's happening now . i mean obviously happening now. i mean obviously the right is the conservatives party , faux pas are having an party, faux pas are having an eye forward to the possibility or prospect of a coalition government . they've got to government. they've got to appeal to some of the voters who might go for vox. they've got to appeal for potentially for creating that alliance with vox after the election because they have a different system which , have a different system which, as you know from the european parliament, ends up with all kinds of wacky things happening.

what it ends up actually with a mishmash, it ends up actually with parties like ukip winning national and national elections and also separatist. indeed, indeed . separatist. indeed, indeed. atto— separatist. indeed, indeed. also have a wide range of also you have a wide range of local regional. also you have a wide range of local regional . and local regional. and environmentalist groups and the rest of it, which means trying to form a government from that as opposed to as opposed to a hemisphere for and monitoring legislation or whatever you're doing in the european parliament in particular time that is in that particular time that is very now. it is. but very different now. it is. but i mean, very different now. it is. but i tno— very different now. it is. but i mean, the rock,— very different now. it is. but i mean, the rock, as— very different now. it is. but i mean, the rock, as we- tig t: �*"�*"ti”ti it is. but i mean, the rock, as we say, the root— mean, the rock, as we say, the root-yot— mean, the rock, as we say, the root-yot rnon- mean, the rock, as we say, the root-yot tnon .- mean, the rock, as we say, the rock you know , the rock itself, you know, the trooty— rock itself, you know, the trooty ot— rock itself, you know, the treaty of utrecht since the oorty— treaty of utrecht since the oorty noes. — treaty of utrecht since the early 1700s, big referendum, tnot— early 1700s, big referendum, tnot tsn-t— early1700s, big referendum, that isn't going— early 1700s, big referendum, that isn't going to change. it's tnts— that isn't going to change. it's this contested— that isn't going to change. it's this contested piece of space on nnon— this contested piece of space on not tno— this contested piece of space on which the airport— this contested piece of space on which the airport operates. but nttnott— which the airport operates. but nttnott tno— which the airport operates. but without the airport, gibraltar is without the airport, gibraltar ts tn— without the airport, gibraltar ts tn big— without the airport, gibraltar is in big trouble— without the airport, gibraltar is in big trouble , isn't it? is in big trouble, isn't it? not.— is in big trouble, isn't it? not. otto— is in big trouble, isn't it? well, also the— is in big trouble, isn't it? well, also the whole- is in big trouble, isn't it? well, also the whole of that part of the southern economy has problems because. okay. so firstly, problems because. okay. so ttrstty. tno — problems because. okay. so firstly, the airport— problems because. okay. so firstly, the airport is- okay. so firstly, the airport is both a ont— firstly, the airport is both a stntt otton— firstly, the airport is both a civil airport and— firstly, the airport is both a civil airport and a and a royal air civil airport and a and a royal atr torto— civil airport and a and a royal air force establishment . so air force establishment. so too— air force establishment. so too ts— air force establishment. so too ts o— air force establishment. so there is a strategic strategic tntorost— there is a strategic strategic interest both _ there is a strategic strategic interest both for— there is a strategic strategic interest both for the uk and for tato— interest both for the uk and for we .— interest both for the uk and for we . tnt— interest both for the uk and for we . tot tt-s— interest both for the uk and for nato . but it's also the i think nato. but it's also the i think it's nato. but it's also the i think to tno— nato. but it's also the i think to to onty— nato. but it's also the i think

it's the only the _ nato. but it's also the i think it's the only the nearest other rnroto— it's the only the nearest other rnroto ont— it's the only the nearest other major civil airport is about worn— major civil airport is about worn tnoy— major civil airport is about 100km away. so the economic for not— 100km away. so the economic for to port— 100km away. so the economic for to port ot— 100km away. so the economic for that part of spain— 100km away. so the economic for that part of spain as well, nnon— that part of spain as well, which does— that part of spain as well, which does depend upon gibraltar for which does depend upon gibraltar tor o— which does depend upon gibraltar for a significant— which does depend upon gibraltar for a significant amount of onttoynont— for a significant amount of employment and there's about retoo— employment and there's about toooo people_ employment and there's about toooo tootto o— employment and there's about 10,000 people a day cross the tortor— 10,000 people a day cross the tortor tron — 10,000 people a day cross the border from spain _ 10,000 people a day cross the border from spain into gibraltar to nort— border from spain into gibraltar to nort. rt— border from spain into gibraltar to nort. tt not— border from spain into gibraltar to work, if not more, if not sttntttoont— to work, if not more, if not significant more. but it's a it is significant more. but it's a it ts o— significant more. but it's a it ts o onoto— significant more. but it's a it is a choke point.— significant more. but it's a it is a choke point. it is an issue tor— is a choke point. it is an issue tor tno— is a choke point. it is an issue tor tno tosot— is a choke point. it is an issue for the local economy where you nnoro— for the local economy where you where historically— for the local economy where you where historically you have had the where historically you have had to tooot— where historically you have had the local government, which has not necessarily— the local government, which has not necessarily been the same tonornnont— not necessarily been the same tonornnont os— not necessarily been the same government as in— not necessarily been the same government as in madrid, saying, ttooso— government as in madrid, saying, ttooso ton-t— government as in madrid, saying, please don't make— government as in madrid, saying, please don't make issues for the tortor— please don't make issues for the border because— please don't make issues for the border because it— please don't make issues for the border because it hurts us economically— border because it hurts us economically ,_ border because it hurts us economically , isn't it? i economically, isn't it? isn't tno— economically, isn't it? isn't the trott— economically, isn't it? isn't the truth ot— economically, isn't it? isn't the truth of it— economically, isn't it? isn't the truth of it lay yeah. that you and i have seen these threats from spain . they've threats from spain. they've closed the border. they've done all sorts of things over the last few decades. isn't the truth of this this is pre—election sabre rattling and actually not much is going to change. i think that be true change. i think that may be true for change. i think that may be true torlrooson— change. i think that may be true forlreason which— i g i think that may be true for reason which hasn't for a reason which hasn't been ottot— for a reason which hasn't been ottot-ts— for a reason which hasn't been cited,-is because- for a reason which hasn't been cited, is because we cited, and that is because we tno— cited, and that is because we are due because— cited, and that is because we are due because of the terms of the withdrawal— are due because of the terms of

the withdrawal treaty to be re ttsstsstnt— the withdrawal treaty to be re discussing the _ the withdrawal treaty to be re discussing the quota tariffs on ttsnortos— discussing the quota tariffs on ttsnortos tn— discussing the quota tariffs on fisheries in a— discussing the quota tariffs on fisheries in a couple of years tno— fisheries in a couple of years ttno .— fisheries in a couple of years ttno . so— fisheries in a couple of years time . so this— fisheries in a couple of years time . so this time this ties in time. so this time this ties in win— time. so this time this ties in with applyin9_ time. so this time this ties in with applying pressure which is nnon— with applying pressure which is not ts— with applying pressure which is which is what— with applying pressure which is which is what the— with applying pressure which is which is what the spanish tonornnont— which is what the spanish government has historically done stno— government has historically done since since succession with rosnoot— since since succession with rosnost to— since since succession with rostoot to tno— since since succession with respect to the irish box and rosnoot— respect to the irish box and rosnost to— respect to the irish box and respect to tariffs and quotas tonorotty— respect to tariffs and quotas tonorotty ont— respect to tariffs and quotas generally and accelerated accession to _ generally and accelerated accession to uk waters, it's toon— accession to uk waters, it's toon ttnttnt— accession to uk waters, it's been linking in— accession to uk waters, it's been linking in other issues nttn— been linking in other issues with fisheries.— been linking in other issues with fisheries. so it's entirely nossttto— with fisheries. so it's entirely possible that— with fisheries. so it's entirely possible that that this will be trotot— possible that that this will be trotot ott— possible that that this will be traded off down— possible that that this will be traded off down the line in ortor— traded off down the line in ortor to— traded off down the line in order to boost— traded off down the line in order to boost the spanish claim order to boost the spaniin claim on order to boost the spanish claim on ttotos— order to boost the spanish claim on ttotos .— order to boost the spanish claim on tnotos . ont— order to boost the spanish claim on quotas , and likely it'll be a on quotas, and likely it'll be a tototr— on quotas, and likely it'll be a labour government negotiating tnot— labour government negotiating tnotnott— labour government negotiating that well that's— labour government negotiating that well that's open for otootorot— that well that's open for electoral decision. that's. root.— electoral decision. that's. root. not— electoral decision. that's. yeah, but the— electoral decision. that's. yeah, but the balance- electoral decision. that's. yeah, but the balance of probabilities is that it will be a labour government. but, but, but the problem here's the thing. if it is a labour government,- t; if it is a labour government, labour has historically— government, labour has historically been much weaker tnon— historically been much weaker tnon tno— historically been much weaker than the conservatives over tnotr— than the conservatives over their negotiations with, with soorn— their negotiations with, with stotn ont— their negotiations with, with spain and other— their negotiations with, with spain and other and other areas nnoro— spain and other and other areas nnoro tnoro-s— spain and other and other areas where there's been— spain and other and other areas

where there's been ongoing oct ont— where there's been ongoing oct ont sotony— where there's been ongoing oct obe colony and— where there's been ongoing oct obe colony and territories issues, because- obe colony and territories issues, because as an inherent weakness within— issues, because as an inherent weakness within the labour party that weakness within the labour party to rotoots— weakness within the labour party that rejects the— weakness within the labour party that rejects the legacy of trttotn-s— that rejects the legacy of britain's imperial past and tnoro-s— britain's imperial past and there's this— britain's imperial past and there's this movement inherent nttntn— there's this movement inherent nttntn tno— there's this movement inherent within the labour— there's this movement inherent within the labour party which nonts— within the labour party which nonts o— within the labour party which nonts o sort— within the labour party which wants a sort of— within the labour party which wants a sort of a— within the labour party which wants a sort of a colonial tott— wants a sort of a colonial tnttt. os— wants a sort of a colonial tnttt. os rt— wants a sort of a colonial guilt, as it were. / guilt, as it were. okay. yeah, t— guilt, as it were. okay. yeah, no, i get that. so that is- guilt, as it were. / gti. so that is a no, i get that. so that is a not— no, i get that. so that is a to ts— no, i get that. so that is a to ts on— no, i get that. so that is a that is an additional- gti. so that is a that is an additional risk. if stornor— that is an additional risk. if starmer does— that is an additional risk. if starmer does get in the how is he starmer does get in the how is no totnt— starmer does get in the how is no totnt to— starmer does get in the how is be going to play— starmer does get in the how is he going to play that play that not— he going to play that play that to nont— he going to play that play that that hand and— he going to play that play that that hand and those negotiations. and that's a big unknown. lee— negotiations. and that's a big unknown. titi negotiations. and that's a big unknown. lee rotherham, thank you very much indeed. nice to hear lee say the conservatives have on something. have been strong on something. i've looking to i've been looking for years to find out what they're actually strong on, although i don't doubt be even doubt labour would be even weaker moment. rwanda weaker in a moment. the rwanda policy comes under huge criticism. to cost criticism. it's going to cost 169 grand per person that we send to rwanda, although bear in mind, no one's yet been sent. and now some real criticism that we can't send kids there because it's not safe

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news . channel _ the people's channel. britain's news . channel well, ever since news. channel well, ever since bods news. channel well, ever since boris johnson's dramatic announcement at lydd airport in kent that rwanda was the place that we would send people across the english to , channel and we the english to, channel and we would do to stop others would do that to stop others paying would do that to stop others paying the traffickers. the row has never, ever ended , to my has never, ever ended, to my knowledge. thus far. we've spent £140 million on the rwanda plan and not one single person has gone there . we learned in the gone there. we learned in the last 48 hours that the cost out for each person to go to rwanda is estimated at £169,000. are but we're told if for every couple of people we send to rwanda, it discourages 3 or 4 people from paying traffickers. money actually , you know, we're money actually, you know, we're going to come out winning. whether i believe that argument or not, i don't know. i do think anything that breaks the model

of paying the trafficker 3500 quid across the channel anything that breaks it must be a good thing. so i am kind of lukewarm in support of rwanda. but there are questions about whether and caroline nokes, you know, former conservative member of parliament, has said it wouldn't be safe to send kids there. now i'm joined by ivan sampson , an i'm joined by ivan sampson, an immigration lawyer and a friend of this program . ivan, i wasn't of this program. ivan, i wasn't aware the plan was to send kids to rwanda . well, i wouldn't put to rwanda. well, i wouldn't put onytntnt— to rwanda. well, i wouldn't put onytntnt tost— to rwanda. well, i wouldn't put anything past his— 3: well, i wouldn't put anything past his government to get anything past his government to tot tno— anything past his government to got to n.otos — anything past his government to got to n.otos t— anything past his government to get the votes. i mean, look , the get the votes. i mean, look, the tonornnont— get the votes. i mean, look, the government has— get the votes. i mean, look, the government has a— get the votes. i mean, look, the government has a statutory duty to nrotoot— government has a statutory duty to protect children. _ government has a statutory duty to protect children. it's enshrined— to protect children. it's enshrined in- to protect children. it's enshrined in law under the tortors— enshrined in law under the borders act,— enshrined in law under the borders act, section 55. and nnot— borders act, section 55. and no not— borders act, section 55. and what that says— borders act, section 55. and what that says is— borders act, section 55. and what that says is that the tonornnont— what that says is that the government has to treat fairly osyttn— government has to treat fairly asylum, children— government has to treat fairly asylum, children claiming asylum asylum, children claiming asylum os rt— asylum, children claiming asylum os tt tnoy— asylum, children claiming asylum os tt tnoy noo— asylum, children claiming asylum as if they were british. the same standards— as if they were british. the same standards they apply to trtttsn— same standards they apply to british children. _ same standards they apply to british children. they should abitty— british children. they should apply to— british children. they should apply to asylum seeker children . tnot-s— apply to asylum seeker children . tnot-s ttrst— apply to asylum seeker children . that's first of— apply to asylum seeker children . that's first of all.— apply to asylum seeker children . that's first of all. next tntnt— . that's first of all. next tntnt ts— . that's first of all. next thing is they— . that's first of all. next thing is they should consider ont— thing is they should consider ont tootto— thing is they should consider and decide their—

thing is they should consider and decide their asylum ottttootton— and decide their asylum application within a reasonable tno— application within a reasonable ttno. tnoy— application within a reasonable time. they should also not discriminate— time. they should also not discriminate and identify the ontttron— discriminate and identify the children who— discriminate and identify the children who are at risk and nrotoot— children who are at risk and trotoot tnon. — children who are at risk and protect them. now, if you're not nttttnt— protect them. now, if you're not ntttnt to— protect them. now, if you're not willing to send— protect them. now, if you're not willing to send your kids to a notttoy— willing to send your kids to a notttoy oont— willing to send your kids to a holiday camp in— willing to send your kids to a holiday camp in rwanda, yeah, trtttsn— holiday camp in rwanda, yeah, british children— holiday camp in rwanda, yeah, british children to go to go sort— british children to go to go sort ot— british children to go to go sort of summer— british children to go to go sort of summer camp there, then we sort of summer camp there, then no snotttn-t— sort of summer camp there, then we shouldn't be— sort of summer camp there, then we shouldn't be sending asylum. cntttron— we shouldn't be sending asylum. children seeking— we shouldn't be sending asylum. children seeking asylum. but surety— children seeking asylum. but surely there's— children seeking asylum. but surely there's any— children seeking asylum. but surely there's any element of doubt we'd keep those child asylum seekers in this country anyway? well, not a single norson— anyway? well, not a single torson nos— anyway? well, not a single person has been— , well, not a single person has been sent to rwanda yot.— person has been sent to rwanda yot. tos.— person has been sent to rwanda yot. ros- tot— person has been sent to rwanda yet. yes. not one— person has been sent to rwanda yet. yes. not one child. not a stntto— yet. yes. not one child. not a stntto ono— yet. yes. not one child. not a single one. and— yet. yes. not one child. not a single one. and they will not be onyon— single one. and they will not be onyon sont— single one. and they will not be onyon sont to— single one. and they will not be anyone sent to rwanda simply tootoso— anyone sent to rwanda simply because donelan_ anyone sent to rwanda simply because donelan you are saying to— because donelan you are saying to tno— because donelan you are saying that the government's flagship totoy— that the government's flagship tottoy on— that the government's flagship tottoy on ston— that the government's flagship policy on stop the boats which ttsnt— policy on stop the boats which not nos— policy on stop the boats which rishi has made— policy on stop the boats which rishi has made one of his five ttottos— rishi has made one of his five rtottos ts— rishi has made one of his five rtottos ts yot— rishi has made one of his five pledges, is you are sitting here tonttnt— pledges, is you are sitting here tonttnt ont— pledges, is you are sitting here tonight and saying that it won't nottont — tonight and saying that it won't nottont to.— tonight and saying that it won't nottont to. rt— tonight and saying that it won't happen? \ttit . tttit" . tonight and saying that it won't happen? \tit . i happen? no, it won't happen. why? happen? no, it won't happen. wnyt nott— happen? no, it won't happen. why? well, there's— happen? no, it won't happen. why? well, there's two - happen? \tit . i why? well, there's two reasons. to — why? well, there's two reasons. to ts— why? well, there's two reasons. the reason is the— why? well, there's two reasons. the reason is the core. the nnoto— the reason is the core. the nnoto totnt— the reason is the core. the whole point of— the reason is the core. the whole point of the rwanda policy is a deterrent— whole point of the rwanda policy is a deterrent and— whole point of the rwanda policy is a deterrent and it's not going— is a deterrent and it's not totnt to— is a deterrent and it's not totnt to nort— is a deterrent and it's not going to work because the people oontnt— going to work because the people oontnt oss— going to work because the people coming across the _ going to work because the people coming across the channel don't

nnon— coming across the channel don't know otott— coming across the channel don't know about the _ coming across the channel don't know about the policy. and even if know about the policy. and even tt tnoy— know about the policy. and even tt tnoy rnon— know about the policy. and even if they knew about— know about the policy. and even if they knew about the policy, tnoy— if they knew about the policy, tnoy ton-t— if they knew about the policy, they don't care— if they knew about the policy, they don't care .— if they knew about the policy, they don't care . i— if they knew about the policy, they don't care . i mean, look, they don't care. i mean, look, tost— they don't care. i mean, look, tost yoor— they don't care. i mean, look, tost yoor no— they don't care. i mean, look, last year we had— they don't care. i mean, look, last year we had the borders tit— last year we had the borders tttt ont— last year we had the borders tttt ont no— last year we had the borders bill and we had— last year we had the borders bill and we had the inadmissibility rules saying to— inadmissibility rules saying to t— inadmissibility rules saying to t yot— inadmissibility rules saying that if you didn't claim asylum in that if you didn't claim asylum tn-ootntry.— that if you didn't claim asylum tn-ootntry. no- in the first country, we notttn-t— in the first country, we wouldn't even accept your asylum torn— wouldn't even accept your asylum stotn tnot— wouldn't even accept your asylum claim that went— wouldn't even accept your asylum claim that went out— wouldn't even accept your asylum claim that went out the window. tnon — claim that went out the window. tnon no — claim that went out the window. tnon no not— claim that went out the window. then we had it— claim that went out the window. then we had it a— claim that went out the window. then we had it a criminal ottonoo— then we had it a criminal offence and— then we had it a criminal offence and yet- then we had it a criminal offence and yet actually, wasn't to— offence and yet actually, wasn't to o— offence and yet actually, wasn't to o tott— offence and yet actually, wasn't that a fair policy?— offence and yet actually, wasn't that a fair policy? well, no , that a fair policy? well, no, tootoso— that a fair policy? well, no, because it's— that a fair policy? well, no, because it's a— that a fair policy? well, no, because it's a breach of international- because it's a breach of international law . we've got a international law. we've got a toy— international law. we've got a ttty to— international law. we've got a tnty to ottto— international law. we've got a tnty to ottto .— international law. we've got a duty to abide . what about duty to abide. what about international? all this international? all this international law stuff? what about putting our own interests first? i mean, why should we allow tens of thousands of young men who throw their passports and mobile phones into the engush and mobile phones into the english channel to come and live in this country? why should we allow it? we shouldn't. in fact, we shouldn't. but— allow it? we shouldn't. in fact, we shouldn't. but we- i?” wbii: : i i in fact, we shouldn't. but we should otton— we shouldn't. but we should otton ts— we shouldn't. but we should allow is genuine— we shouldn't. but we should allow is genuine asylum seekers and allow is genuine asylum seekers ont-notortty— allow is genuine asylum seekers ont-notortty ot— allow is genuine asylum seekers and majority of people and the majority of people sontnt— and the majority of people coming across— and the majority of people coming across the channel in tono— coming across the channel in home office's— coming across the channel in home office's own figures are tonttno— home office's own figures are tonttno .— home office's own figures are tonntno . tnot— home office's own figures are genuine . that is— home office's own figures are genuine . that is a fact. genuine. that is a fact. that's nottto— genuine. that is a fact. that's tootso tno— genuine. that is a fact. that's because the only way of clearing the backlog is to let them stay. think about think about albania.

50% of those young men that came from albania were given refugee status in germany, the number was zero. i mean, aren't we just giving up on all of this ? well, giving up on all of this? well, i don't agree with giving- i don't agree with giving albanians— i don't agree with giving albanians refugee status simply tootoso— albanians refugee status simply tootoso tnoy— albanians refugee status simply because they come from a safe tntrt— because they come from a safe tntrt sotntry. — because they come from a safe third country. fine. so third country. fine. fine. so why— third country. fine. fine. so nny tnts— third country. fine. fine. so why this makes— third country. fine. fine. so why this makes my- third country. fine. so why this makes my point. the onty— why this makes my point. the onty noy— why this makes my point. the onty noy no— why this makes my point. the only way we deal— why this makes my point. the only way we deal with this is to say— only way we deal with this is to soy yot— only way we deal with this is to soy you on— only way we deal with this is to soy yon ott— only way we deal with this is to say you can all stay, which means more and more come. which means an amnesty. it— means more and more come. t?" it happened in means an amnesty. it happened in ann.— means an amnesty. it happened in 200a. no— means an amnesty. it happened in 200a. no not— means an amnesty. it happened in 200a. no not on— means an amnesty. it happened in 2004. we had an amnesty- t?" it happened in 2004. we had an amnesty then for ontttron— 2004. we had an amnesty then for onttron .— 2004. we had an amnesty then for onttron . so— 2004. we had an amnesty then for children . so any— 2004. we had an amnesty then for children . so any child that's children. so any child that's toon— children. so any child that's toon tn— children. so any child that's toon tn tno— children. so any child that's been in the uk— children. so any child that's been in the uk for a certain ntrnort— been in the uk for a certain ntrnort ot— been in the uk for a certain number of years— been in the uk for a certain number of years were given and non— number of years were given and tnotr noronts— number of years were given and their parents were _ number of years were given and their parents were given trotootton. — their parents were given protection. ian so maybe we need to rust— protection. ian so maybe we need to inst toot— protection. ian so maybe we need to just clear the— protection. ian so maybe we need to just clear the backlog and nono— to just clear the backlog and havelsensible_ to just clear the backlog and have sensible immigration have a sensible immigration totoy— have a sensible immigration tottoylonoryono- have a sensible immigration policy everyone stay in and policy so everyone stay in and sort— policy so everyone stay in and stort ototn— policy so everyone stay in and start again, which— policy so everyone stay in and start again, which means even more. come look,— start again, which means even more. come look, we've got a nttton— more. come look, we've got a ntttton people_ more. come look, we've got a million people illegally in this country— million people illegally in this country .— million people illegally in this country . no— million people illegally in this country . we could never remove country. we could never remove yot— country. we could never remove yot stro— country. we could never remove you soo its— country. we could never remove you soo tt-s os— country. we could never remove you sure it's as few— country. we could never remove you sure it's as few as that. tnot-s— you sure it's as few as that. tnot-s tno— you sure it's as few as that. that's the figures. wbii: �*" you sure it's as few as that. that's the figures. �*ft�*ti �*" that's the figures. we if we ronnonot— that's the figures. we if we removed them for the next 50 years, we couldn't do it. that is a fact . we don't- years, we couldn't do it. that is a fact . we don't have- ”if? ii" . titit . that is a fact . we don't have the is a fact. we don't have the

resources and— is a fact. we don't have the resources and there isn't the ootootty— resources and there isn't the ootootty to— resources and there isn't the capacity to remove that many people-_ capacity to remove that many toorto. nono— capacity to remove that many people. we've got to accept it. we people. we've got to accept it. no snott— people. we've got to accept it. we should bring— people. we've got to accept it. we should bring them into the. non.— we should bring them into the. iron with— we should bring them into the. ivan, with respect— we should bring them into the. ivan, with respect it,— we should bring them into the. ivan, with respect it, you- we should bring them into the. ivan, with respect it, you are a smart, successful , all smart, successful, all immigration lawyer living in london right. immigration lawyer living in london right . you are part of london right. you are part of the marzipan layer of society. do you understand when you go out to ordinary communities and people say , why? because of the people say, why? because of the population explosion and this is legal and illegal, we can't get gp appointments, our kids can't get onto the social housing list. do you understand the anger this is causing out there amongst , by anger this is causing out there amongst, by the anger this is causing out there amongst , by the way, very decent amongst, by the way, very decent , nice people. i understand not.— , nice people. i understand tnot. tnt— , nice people. i understand that. but the— " ti.ti i understand that. but the solution is not to ottoot— that. but the solution is not to attack illegal— that. but the solution is not to attack illegal or— that. but the solution is not to attack illegal or migrants here. tno— attack illegal or migrants here. too sotttton— attack illegal or migrants here. the solution is— attack illegal or migrants here. the solution is to— attack illegal or migrants here. the solution is to build more toss— the solution is to build more noss .— the solution is to build more noss . ts— the solution is to build more houses , is to— the solution is to build more houses , is to have a proper houses, is to have a proper norttorso— houses, is to have a proper norttoroo. to — houses, is to have a proper workforce, to have proper nontttnt— workforce, to have proper nontttnt ot— workforce, to have proper handling of i'm sorry, i'm sorry. — handling of i'm sorry, i'm sorry. tno— handling of i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i've been- handling of i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i i sorry. i've been out in the channel countless times. i've seen in many cases not all, but

in many cases as pretty aggressive young males who and i've filmed them throwing their mobile phones into the sea at the 12 mile limit in the hope that no one can trace or track who they are or what they are . who they are or what they are. they arrive in dover docks . and they arrive in dover docks. and far from being grateful and thankful and we saw that with the ugandan asians when they very humbly arrived at heathrow airport back in the 70s. very humbly arrived at heathrow airport back in the 70s . you airport back in the 70s. you know, they're high fiving . i know, they're high fiving. i mean, the arrogance of it. and they come directly , many of they come directly, many of them, to join criminal gangs. and tiktok advertises to come and join our drugs gang , come and join our drugs gang, come and join our drugs gang, come and join our drugs gang, come and join the this is an absolute mickey. take it is. and they snott— mickey. take it is. and they snottt to— mickey. take it is. and they should be removed.- mickey. take it is. and they should be removed. - iiitffiétiilg i and they should be removed. ii i i and they should be removed. look, the tons— should be removed. look, the tons oro— should be removed. look, the laws are already there. who should be right?— laws are already there. who should be right? - laws are already there. who should be right? okay, let's pin this back to who should be removed. anyone who's not a tonttno— removed. anyone who's not a tonntno osyttn— ”ti : anyone who's not a genuine asylum seeker. ' t: ”ti : anyone who's not a genuine asylum seeker. t: genuine asylum seeker. and the proton— genuine asylum seeker. and the proton ts— genuine asylum seeker. and the problem is with the albanians, they claim they're being trafficked and the government doesn't know what it's doing with the national referral

mechanism under trafficking laws , that is a problem. all right. they should be fast tracked, as you can, with asylum seekers. albanians are not permitted. no asylum, none of them it?" no asylum, none of them should stoy. — asylum, none of them should stoy. lit-s— asylum, none of them should stoy. lit-s tno— asylum, none of them should stay. . d stay. so it's the government's fault. there's not a proper policy? well, no. if we had a proper running home office on that, on that, we'll agree. well, sampson i have well, ivan sampson and i have tototot— well, ivan sampson and i have tototot tnts— well, ivan sampson and i have debated this before and we will tototo—ton-t- debate this again. we don't tnto— debate this again. we don't tnto-to— debate this again. we don't tnto-to oyo- debate this again. we don't quite to eye, but but quite see eye to eye, but but i nono— quite see eye to eye, but but i too to— quite see eye to eye, but but i too to soy.— quite see eye to eye, but but i have to say, the— quite see eye to eye, but but i have to say, the country is in a oory— have to say, the country is in a toy ttttoront— have to say, the country is in a very different place on this tssto— very different place on this to— very different place on this issue to central— very different place on this issue to central london in a rnornont— issue to central london in a rnornont tn— issue to central london in a moment, i'm joined by the great sir moment, i'm joined by the great sir ooottroy— moment, i'm joined by the great sir geoffrey boycott as a very tntortont— sir geoffrey boycott as a very important ashes— sir geoffrey boycott as a very important ashes match important ashes test match storts— important ashes test match starts tomorrow _ important ashes test match starts tomorrow . so

cricket just gets bigger and trotot. — cricket just gets bigger and trotot. rt— cricket just gets bigger and bigger. it really, really does. ant— bigger. it really, really does. and tomorrow,— bigger. it really, really does. and tomorrow, the second match, the and tomorrow, the second match, to soont— and tomorrow, the second match, the second ashes— and tomorrow, the second match, the second ashes match at lord's tottns— the second ashes match at lord's tottns ototnst— the second ashes match at lord's begins against the— the second ashes match at lord's begins against the australians. they— begins against the australians. tnoy non— begins against the australians. tnoy tno— begins against the australians. they won the first one, albeit oory— they won the first one, albeit nory nononty— they won the first one, albeit nory nononty .— they won the first one, albeit very narrowly . and this weekend very narrowly. and this weekend at very narrowly. and this weekend ot oottotty— very narrowly. and this weekend

ot oottotty no— very narrowly. and this weekend at actually we were gripped by women's cricket— at actually we were gripped by women's cricket in a way i don't tntnt— women's cricket in a way i don't tntnt no— women's cricket in a way i don't tntnt no not— women's cricket in a way i don't think we had been— women's cricket in a way i don't think we had been before because the think we had been before because to first— think we had been before because the first double— think we had been before because the first double centurion from the first double centurion from to tntttsn— the first double centurion from the english women's cricket team the engliin women's cricket team did the english women's cricket team ttt tnot— the english women's cricket team ttt to in— the english women's cricket team ttt to in on— the english women's cricket team did that in an ashes match and tno— did that in an ashes match and across the world,— did that in an ashes match and across the world, cricket is booming.— across the world, cricket is toontnt. tt-s— across the world, cricket is booming. it's massive in the subcontinent,— booming. it's massive in the subcontinent, india , pakistan, subcontinent, india, pakistan, tonttotosn— subcontinent, india, pakistan, bangladesh, there's talk now of toottos— bangladesh, there's talk now of toottos tn— bangladesh, there's talk now of leagues in america to where tortiontorty— leagues in america to where particularly around chicago, the nrnto— particularly around chicago, the hindu population— particularly around chicago, the hindu population are playing trotot— hindu population are playing ortstot ont— hindu population are playing cricket and building cricket trotnts— cricket and building cricket tronnts tn— cricket and building cricket grounds in the— cricket and building cricket grounds in the most extraordinary way, maybe even sottt— extraordinary way, maybe even sottt arotto— extraordinary way, maybe even saudi arabia is— extraordinary way, maybe even saudi arabia is about to start sort— saudi arabia is about to start sort ot— saudi arabia is about to start some sort of 2020 league. but for some sort of 2020 league. but tor tno— some sort of 2020 league. but for the purists,— some sort of 2020 league. but for the purists, for— some sort of 2020 league. but for the purists, for those that tototo— for the purists, for those that tottono tn— for the purists, for those that believe in cricket, being a big tono— believe in cricket, being a big tono ot— believe in cricket, being a big oono ot onoss— believe in cricket, being a big game of chess ,_ believe in cricket, being a big game of chess , it's the five day game of chess, it's the five day tost— game of chess, it's the five day tost nottt— game of chess, it's the five day test match that— game of chess, it's the five day test match that is— game of chess, it's the five day test match that is the ultimate ont— test match that is the ultimate ont nnot— test match that is the ultimate and what starts— test match that is the ultimate and what starts tomorrow is a ttttto— and what starts tomorrow is a ttttto tit— and what starts tomorrow is a little bit special.— and what starts tomorrow is a little bit special. well, i'm oory— little bit special. well, i'm nory ttoosot— little bit special. well, i'm very pleased, delighted to be iotnot— very pleased, delighted to be iotnot ty— very pleased, delighted to be joined by legendary cricketer sir joined by legendary cricketer sir ooottroy— joined by legendary cricketer sir geoffrey boycott , not a man sir geoffrey boycott, not a man nto-s— sir geoffrey boycott, not a man who's ever been— sir geoffrey boycott, not a man who's ever been known for notttnt— who's ever been known for holding back— who's ever been known for holding back on his thoughts and opinions— holding back on his thoughts and opinions .— holding back on his thoughts and opinions . geoffrey,— holding back on his thoughts and opinions . geoffrey, great to see opinions. geoffrey, great to see you— opinions. geoffrey, great to see you toot— opinions. geoffrey, great to see you took noro— opinions. geoffrey, great to see you back here with us at gb tons. — you back here with us at gb tons. vot— you back here with us at gb news. you were— you back here with us at gb news. you were with us when we

first— news. you were with us when we first launched _ news. you were with us when we first launched the— news. you were with us when we first launched the program. ben stotos— first launched the program. ben stotos .— first launched the program. ben stotos . tos.— first launched the program. ben stokes . yes. he's— first launched the program. ben stokes . yes. he's like an alpha stokes. yes. he's like an alpha noto— stokes. yes. he's like an alpha noto. no— stokes. yes. he's like an alpha male. we warrior.— stokes. yes. he's like an alpha male. we warrior. he's a bit of a male. we warrior. he's a bit of o otorn— male. we warrior. he's a bit of o otorn toy— male. we warrior. he's a bit of a modern day botham in terms of non— a modern day botham in terms of ton to— a modern day botham in terms of ton no is— a modern day botham in terms of ton no is ont— a modern day botham in terms of how he is and his— a modern day botham in terms of how he is and his attitudes and tnoy-ro— how he is and his attitudes and they're playing— how he is and his attitudes and they're playing this form of tosotott. — they're playing this form of baseball. but— they're playing this form of baseball. but he said something oory— baseball. but he said something nory tntorosttnt— baseball. but he said something very interesting before the first— very interesting before the ttrst gamer— very interesting before the first game, which we lost, which i first game, which we lost, which t tnottnt— first game, which we lost, which i thought actually— first game, which we lost, which i thought actually we should nono— i thought actually we should have won. yes,— i thought actually we should have won. yes, he said , have won. yes, he said, entertaining— have won. yes, he said, entertaining matters more than ntnntnt— entertaining matters more than ntnntnt .— entertaining matters more than ntnntnt . nnot— entertaining matters more than winning . what does an old winning. what does an old vortsntro— winning. what does an old yorkshire and— winning. what does an old yorkshire and england cricketer tntnt— yorkshire and england cricketer tntnt otott— yorkshire and england cricketer think about that? \ttit yorkshire and england cricketer think about that? \tit think about that? no, they've got carried away. they've got carried away. look, the object is to win. they've been playing wonderful cricket , kept us on wonderful cricket, kept us on the edge of our seat. it's been exhilarating. all been good. but you must never lose sight of the object is to win . and in object is to win. and in winning, why can't you win? and entertainers . and they got entertainers. and they got carried away. you heard stuart broad the same saying, oh, you know, it's silly . it's a silly know, it's silly. it's a silly if you're not going to play to win, you might as well call them exhibition games. and i don't think the ashes is an exhibition game lost they lost

game and they lost they lost sight of the object and they thought they could just keep scoring runs, keep bashing the ball. more and more. i counted at one stage second innings. it was scoring at six and over easily, easily. so was scoring at six and over easily, easily . so they wanted easily, easily. so they wanted to score at eight, 9 or 10. and yet they were winning the match. but in the end they lost it. well, joe root, who number one totsnon— well, joe root, who number one totsnonltno— well, joe root, who number one batsman the world, got batsman in the world, got sttnnot— batsman in the world, got stumped, down. batsman in the world, got- stumped,-down. he got stumped, charging down. he got run stumped, charging down. he got tot.— stumped, charging down. he got run out, run out. okay. - stumped, charging down. he got run out, run out. okay. i- stumped, charging down. ti git ”.i ”.i okay. run out, run out. okay. i mean, you call it. but he actually ran it , which was silly because he it, which was silly because he he's one of the best three batsmen in the world. and at the moment, he's probably the best player in the world. he's playing super. he's got he's got nothing plate, no nothing on his plate, no captaincy. is he captaincy. what is he was a shadow of in west shadow of himself in west indies. that last series as captain. yeah. now he's playing with confidence and with the freedom, confidence and he's blossoming. it's funny, isn't he's blossoming. it's funny, tsn-t it?— he's blossoming. it's funny, tsn-t to t— he's blossoming. it's funny, isn't it? i mean,— t; it's funny, isn't it? i mean, leadership in all isn't it? i mean, leadership in ott torns— isn't it? i mean, leadership in ott torns ot— isn't it? i mean, leadership in all forms of life,— isn't it? i mean, leadership in all forms of life, you know. joe toot. — all forms of life, you know. joe root, brilliant— all forms of life, you know. joe root, brilliant cricketer. but as root, brilliant cricketer. but os—rooortl root, brilliant cricketer. but. as_record, one as captain, a poor record, one nin— as captain, a poor record, one win in— as captain, a poor record, one win in tno— as captain, a poor record, one win in the last— as captain, a poor record, one win in the last 17— as captain, a poor record, one win in the last 17 tests. stokes to-s— win in the last 17 tests. stokes to-s non— win in the last 17 tests. stokes he's now one i— win in the last 17 tests. stokes he's now one i think ten out of 12. he's now one i think ten out of tz. ant— he's now one i think ten out of tz. ant no— he's now one i think ten out of 12. and we love— he's now one i think ten out of 12. and we love the— 12. and we love the entertainment. but i agree with

you.— entertainment. but i agree with you. no— entertainment. but i agree with yon. no noot— entertainment. but i agree with yon. no noot to— entertainment. but i agree with you. we need to win. how good are you. we need to win. how good tnoyt— you. we need to win. how good tnoyt ton— you. we need to win. how good are they? how good are this tnttont—tnoyi are they? how good are this. england _they be england team and can they be atstrottot — england team and can they be atstrottot .— england team and can they be australia? i think— england team and can they be australia? "

tv money that sky have injected did 220 million this year for four years. that's a lot of brass. when i remember about 1990, i think bbc will pay £1 million for the rights of a summons. now 220 million as it's gone up , more summons. now 220 million as it's gone up, more and more of that money is being able to be going forward to help women's cricket. yeah, because a few years ago we didn't have one professional women's cricketer. now we've got plenty. and so they can practise. they don't have to go to work and try to practise at night. they've time think night. they've got time to think about what they're doing. they've and better. they've got better and better. yeah. good. yeah. and they're very good. it's blossoming all over the world. look i live now in cheshire and there's a club there with my daughter's husband , and her elder brother was chairman a few years ago. he's got six men's teams and he's got three girls teams. yeah, it's. you see, this is interesting. tt-s— you see, this is interesting. to ononttnt— you see, this is interesting. it's changing hugely. and yet we get it's changing hugely. and yet we tot tnts— it's changing hugely. and yet we get this ludicrous— it's changing hugely. and yet we get this ludicrous report from the

get this ludicrous report from to oct— get this ludicrous report from to rot tnts— get this ludicrous report from the ecb this morning saying that trotot— the ecb this morning saying that ortstot ts— the ecb this morning saying that cricket is institutionally rootst— cricket is institutionally rostst .— cricket is institutionally racist . it's— cricket is institutionally racist . it's sexist, it's racist. it's sexist, it's otosstst— racist. it's sexist, it's classist. i'm- racist. it's sexist, it's classist. i'm amazed it didn't say— classist. i'm amazed it didn't soy ttot— classist. i'm amazed it didn't soy tnot. tt-s— classist. i'm amazed it didn't say that. it's fattest and nottnttst. — say that. it's fattest and heightist. i'm- say that. it's fattest and heightist. i'm surprised . heightist. i'm surprised. notttoy.— heightist. i'm surprised. geoffrey, they didn't even. oh, the geoffrey, they didn't even. oh, to trink— geoffrey, they didn't even. oh, the drink culture.— geoffrey, they didn't even. oh, the drink culture. they condemn the drink culture. they condemn tno trink— the drink culture. they condemn the drink culture.— the drink culture. they condemn the drink culture. i— the drink culture. they condemn the drink culture. i mean, toto— the drink culture. i mean, bloke, there's— the drink culture. i mean, bloke, there's been a work all noot.— bloke, there's been a work all noot. tno— bloke, there's been a work all week. the police— bloke, there's been a work all week. the police cricket on a stntoy— week. the police cricket on a sunday afternoon— week. the police cricket on a sunday afternoon and fancies a pint. — sunday afternoon and fancies a pint. nnot— sunday afternoon and fancies a pint. nnot tno— sunday afternoon and fancies a pint. what the hell is wrong nttn— pint. what the hell is wrong nttn tnott— pint. what the hell is wrong with that? i'm— pint. what the hell is wrong with that? i'm surprised they tttn-t— with that? i'm surprised they didn't-criticise- with that? i'm surprised they didn't criticise the teas didn't even criticise the teas for didn't even criticise the teasi for not being vegan. i mean, no-no-tnts— for not being vegan. i mean, no-no-tnts tn- for not being vegan. i mean, we've this in your county, we've seen this in your county, vortsntro— we've seen this in your county, vortsntro .— we've seen this in your county, yorkshire . one— we've seen this in your county, yorkshire . one man accusing yorkshire. one man accusing attonoot— yorkshire. one man accusing michael vaughan being , you know, michael vaughan being, you know, tornor— michael vaughan being, you know, former distinguished england oontotn— former distinguished england oontotn .— former distinguished england oontotn . totnt— former distinguished england captain , being taken off the captain, being taken off the otrnonos— captain, being taken off the airwaves for— captain, being taken off the airwaves for a— captain, being taken off the airwaves for a period of time. nnot— airwaves for a period of time. nnot ts— airwaves for a period of time. nnot is it— airwaves for a period of time. what is it about— airwaves for a period of time. what is it about cricket? our ottnortttos— what is it about cricket? our authorities seem _ what is it about cricket? our authorities seem to be almost trttntonot— authorities seem to be almost tntntonot ot— authorities seem to be almost frightened of who they are . frightened of who they are. i noront— frightened of who they are. i haven't read _ frightened of who they are. i haven't read it. well,- frightened of who they are. i : . well, it's frightened of who they are. i i : . well, it's 300 haven't read it. well, it's 300 notos — haven't read it. well, it's 300 pages. look , i play for 25 pages. look, i play for 25 years. i can honestly pages. �*"tit”iz�*rii ”if? i can honestly say years. i can honestly say i tttn-t— years. i can honestly say i didn't come— «stit3”~3 i can honestly say i didn't come across «stit3”3 i can honestly say i didn't come across any racism. noyto— didn't come across any racism. taoyto tn— didn't come across any racism. noyto tn tnoty— didn't come across any racism. maybe i'm lucky because i played ototnst— maybe i'm lucky because i played ototnst tntto— maybe i'm lucky because i played ototnst tntto .— maybe i'm lucky because i played against india , you— maybe i'm lucky because i played against india , you know, west against india, you know, west tnttos— against india, you know, west indies, pakistan— against india, you know, west indies, pakistan .— against india, you know, west indies, pakistan . yes. lots of indies, pakistan. yes. lots of ttoot— indies, pakistan. yes. lots of ttoot noonto— indies, pakistan. yes. lots of ttoot noonto .— indies, pakistan. yes. lots of black people , many of them my

black people, many of them my trtonts. — black people, many of them my trtonts. atto— black people, many of them my friends. like i'd— black people, many of them my friends. like i'd like to say, sont— friends. like i'd like to say, sunil gavaskar_ friends. like i'd like to say, sunil gavaskar is one of my best trtonts. — sunil gavaskar is one of my best trtonts. toon.— sunil gavaskar is one of my best friends. yeah, we— sunil gavaskar is one of my best friends. yeah, we still email ont— friends. yeah, we still email ont tott— friends. yeah, we still email ont tott to— friends. yeah, we still email and talk to each— friends. yeah, we still email and talk to each other. yeah. ano— and talk to each other. yeah. cttno ttoyt— and talk to each other. yeah. clive lloyd wonderful people. i ton-t— clive lloyd wonderful people. i ton-t tntnt— clive lloyd wonderful people. i don't think of— clive lloyd wonderful people. i don't think of them as black people-_ don't think of them as black noonto. t— don't think of them as black noonto. tinst— don't think of them as black people. i just think it was a trott— people. i just think it was a troot noonto. — people. i just think it was a great people. that's how you snott— great people. that's how you snottt to.— great people. that's how you should do, shouldn't you? and not— should do, shouldn't you? and nott—ittto- should do, shouldn't you? and well, judge people should do, shouldn't you? and. well,_judge people on well, you should judge people on nno— well, you should judge people on nto-os— well, you should judge people on nto-ts toonto. - well, you should judge people on who as people. “415?" who they are as people. yeah. ant— who they are as people. yeah. ant trot-s— who they are as people. yeah. and that's how— who they are as people. yeah. and that's how it should be. no. so in my time i've not come it.— so in my time i've not come it. — so in my time i've not come across it. well,— so in my time i've not come across it. well, i'm- so in my time i've not come across it. �*ft�*tiee ”tit3eeyt across it. well, i'm really concerned about what's going on. but joined , geoffrey, but we're joined, geoffrey, we're by well, of course, we're joined by well, of course, almost everybody these days is sir, we joined i'm sandwiched in between a couple of knights of the realm. we're joined by the saddest thing is he's not prime minister well that is an minister that well that is an endorsement i will treasure . i endorsement i will treasure. i think ship may have sailed, think that ship may have sailed, but know. no, you but we'll never know. no, you don't know. you never, never know. they might- don't know. you never, never know. they might not- don't know. /tit. they might not last too know. they might not last too tong.— know. they might not last too tont. — know. they might not last too tong. tnoy— know. they might not last too long. they never— know. they might not last too long. they never know- they might not last too long. know. they might not last too long. they never know when maybe boycott could be back the batting for england at some point. we never know. so, jacob rees—mogg, you're cricket rees—mogg, you're a big cricket fan. jeffrey was not fan. and jeffrey was was not being that. what on being drawn on that. what on earth ridiculous report earth was this ridiculous report all about it? well, it's a very

toot— all about it? well, it's a very toot toostton.— all about it? well, it's a very good question.imean,- i?” well, it's a very good question. mean, haven't i?” well, it's a very goodallestion. mean, haven't i?” well, it's a very goodall 300 n. mean, haven't i?” well, it's a very goodall 300 pages. an, haven't i?” well, it's a very goodall 300 pages. no haven't i?” well, it's a very goodall 300 pages. no i'veven't i?” well, it's a very goodall 300 pages. no i've read read all 300 pages. no i've read the read all 300 pages. no i've read to nttntttnts— read all 300 pages. no i've read the highlights of— read all 300 pages. no i've read the highlights of it. i think ttontnt— the highlights of it. i think blaming cricket for the fact not— blaming cricket for the fact to its— blaming cricket for the fact that it's not— blaming cricket for the fact that it's not played in school in stoto— that it's not played in school in state schools,— that it's not played in school in state schools, it's completely- in state schools, it's completely unfair that it's tootoso— completely unfair that it's because the _ completely unfair that it's because the state schools nonon-t— because the state schools haven't been— because the state schools haven't been prioritising ortotot— haven't been prioritising cricket, not— haven't been prioritising cricket, not because cricket nosn-t— cricket, not because cricket nosn-t toon— cricket, not because cricket hasn't been making great efforts to-tnto— hasn't been making great efforts to-tnto tno— hasn't been making great efforts to-into the state— hasn't been making great efforts to into the state schools. to get into the state schools. ros— to get into the state schools. tos — to get into the state schools. tos ant— to get into the state schools. yes and chancellor- to get into the state schools. yes ' t: i to get into the state schools. yes ' “t: i 3“t: to get into the state schools. - yes and chancellor shine and all the initiatives that we have had over that's right. and i mean, i rnon— over that's right. and i mean, i know tnoso— over that's right. and i mean, i know these initiatives- ”t; and i mean, i know these initiatives are going on in— know these initiatives are going on in somerset— know these initiatives are going on in somerset and they go on nttn— on in somerset and they go on nttn noonto— on in somerset and they go on with people who— on in somerset and they go on with people who are variety of sonoots— with people who are variety of sonoots ont — with people who are variety of schools and cricket has been trying— schools and cricket has been trying rootty— schools and cricket has been trying really hard and they're too— trying really hard and they're too is— trying really hard and they're too is o— trying really hard and they're there is a grievance culture in tnts— there is a grievance culture in to country— there is a grievance culture in this country that— there is a grievance culture in this country that picks up on this country that picks upon onory— this country that picks up on onory nossttto— this country that picks up on every possible grievance that is going— every possible grievance that is going ont— every possible grievance that is going ont t— every possible grievance that is going ont t otroo— every possible grievance that is going and i agree with you over the going and i agree with you over to not— going and i agree with you over to not ton— going and i agree with you over the next few days— going and i agree with you over the next few days at lord's, tnoro— the next few days at lord's, tnoro nit— the next few days at lord's, there will be— the next few days at lord's, there will be some drinking. but it's there will be some drinking. but its on— there will be some drinking. but it's an incredibly— there will be some drinking. but it's an incredibly nice atmosphere- it's an incredibly nice atmosphere in which people are trtnttnt— atmosphere in which people are trtnttnt tn.— atmosphere in which people are drinking in. it's— atmosphere in which people are drinking in. it's not intimidating. it's not unfriendly.- intimidating. it's not unfriendly. the background noise is a unfriendly. the background noise ts o tit— unfriendly. the background noise is a bit louder— unfriendly. the background noise is a bit louder after tea than it is— is a bit louder after tea than it is ttrst— is a bit louder after tea than it is first, the— is a bit louder after tea than it is first, the barmy army, a

trott— it is first, the barmy army, a troot ton— it is first, the barmy army, a troot tnn ont— it is first, the barmy army, a great fun and it's— it is first, the barmy army, a great fun and it's i mean, the torny— great fun and it's i mean, the torny anny.— great fun and it's i mean, the barmy army, jeffrey they go all oront— barmy army, jeffrey they go all oront tno— barmy army, jeffrey they go all around the world— barmy army, jeffrey they go all around the world with england, ton-t— around the world with england, ton-t tnoyt — around the world with england, don't they? yeah,— around the world with england, don't they? yti3“ ”ti don't they? yeah, there's some bright people there . they're not bright people there. they're not yobbish all. some very concluded that the mother of two died from rall.iental iii—7373 concluded that the mother of two died from all. some iii—7373 yobbish at all. some very intelligent, bright. yeah people concluded that the mother of two died from all. some very if—fffo yobbish at all. some very intelligent, bright. yeah people when get to know them and when get to know them and when you get to know them and they've, they've travelled when you get to know them and they've, they've travelled supporting england many of supporting england you many of the players who played like michael mentioned michael vaughan you mentioned they him fantastic support. they gave him fantastic support. no they're not idiots . no no they're not idiots. no they're not. they're not. no i know. i've been with them. i spent five days with them at barbados and a test match. i i've just about recovered health wise from the experience. but they're they're great people. so you're going to be at lord's tomorrow ? yeah, i'm to be tomorrow? yeah, i'm going to be at tomorrow . i'm going to at lord's tomorrow. i'm going to be going to be at. you're going to be at lord's. can they win? so the question is, england's record at lord's, the home of cricket. but our at lord's against the our record at lord's against the australians over last 100 australians over the last 100 and years ain't too and something years ain't too clever. who's going to win, geoffrey? well, the reason for to— geoffrey? well, the reason for that-because _ geoffrey? well, the reason for that. because the _ of well, the reason for that because the opposition, that is because the opposition, you— that is because the opposition, yot nnon— that is because the opposition, you know. oo— that is because the opposition, you know, come from australia. it you know, come from australia. tt-to— you know, come from australia. tt-to ono— you know, come from australia. tt-to o— you know, come from australia. it be once a lifetime they it might be once a lifetime they get it might be once a lifetime they tot o— it might be once a lifetime they got o oonono— it might be once a lifetime they get a chance to— it might be once a lifetime they get a chance to play a test

ortotot— get a chance to play a test ortotot. so— get a chance to play a test cricket. so they're up for it. toon— cricket. so they're up for it. toon ant— cricket. so they're up for it. yeah and england to be up yeah and england have to be up for yeah and england have to be up tor-a— yeah and england have to be up tor-a tot— yeah and england have to be up for-a lot depends— yeah and england have to be up for a lot depends on the for it. a lot depends on the otton— for it. a lot depends on the ntton .— for it. a lot depends on the pitch. i think— for it. a lot depends on the pitch. i think stuart broad and ionny— pitch. i think stuart broad and jemmy anderson— pitch. i think stuart broad and jemmy anderson are two best fast motion— jemmy anderson are two best fast medium bowlers— jemmy anderson are two best fast medium bowlers have been moaning otott— medium bowlers have been moaning otott tno— medium bowlers have been moaning otott tno ntoott— medium bowlers have been moaning about the placid surface. flat ot— about the placid surface. flat one at edgbaston and maybe tnoy-no— one at edgbaston and maybe tnoy-no tono— one at edgbaston and maybe they've gone the— one at edgbaston and maybe they've gone the other way to tno— they've gone the other way to too ntn — they've gone the other way to too ntn o— they've gone the other way to give him a green— they've gone the other way to give him a green top. wow. so yoot— give him a green top. wow. so yoon tnt— give him a green top. wow. so yoon. ttt tno— give him a green top. wow. so yeah, but the opposition are nrotty— yeah, but the opposition are nrotty toot— yeah, but the opposition are nrotty toot os— yeah, but the opposition are pretty good as well. green john it's pretty good as well. green john tt-s ott— pretty good as well. green john to ott nont— pretty good as well. green john it's all right saying there. not— it's all right saying there. not not— it's all right saying there. well we'd all— it's all right saying there. well we'd all be there. it's nort— well we'd all be there. it's not to— well we'd all be there. it's not to totoy— well we'd all be there. it's hard to play baseball if the tot-s— hard to play baseball if the ball's moving— hard to play baseball if the ball's moving around on a green top. — ball's moving around on a green top. atsotttoty.— ball's moving around on a green top. absolutely. we're- ball's moving around on a green top. ' itilg wbii: ”ti gtit “g ball's moving around on a green top. ' git “g top. absolutely. we're going to be there in the morning. we're excited and we hope it's green and we win. batus very quickly, jacob, what have you got coming up? what am i going be up? what am i going to be talking about? i'm going to be going— talking about? i'm going to be going on— talking about? i'm going to be going on ukraine— talking about? i'm going to be going on ukraine with- “t; i?” i'm going to be going on ukraine with brooks totnort-s— going on ukraine with brooks neumark's-to- going on ukraine with brooks neumark's to talk to neumark's coming in to talk to .toon— neumark's coming in to talk to .toon ott— neumark's coming in to talk to me. been out there on the me. he's been out there on the nont— me. he's been out there on the tront ttno. — me. he's been out there on the front line. he's— me. he's been out there on the front line. he's rescued thousands— front line. he's rescued thousands people and he's thousands of people and he's going— thousands of people and he's going-a— thousands of people and he'si going-a-fantastic. going to be a guest. fantastic. iottroy— going to be a guest. fantastic. jeffrey donaldson, on our jeffrey donaldson, also on our tonotrtto— jeffrey donaldson, also on our favourite subject,— jeffrey donaldson, also on our favourite subject, the windsor trononort. — favourite subject, the windsor framework. _have- favourite subject, the windsor framework. favourite subject, the windsor- framework. _have to before framework. but we have to before that, cross our fingers because they come on they say rain may come on thursday. what thursday. so let's see what the weather is . evening alex deakin

weather is. evening alex deakin noro— weather is. evening alex deakin noro nttn— weather is. evening alex deakin noro nttn your— weather is. evening alex deakin here with your latest— evening alex deakin here with your latest weather tntoto — here with your latest weather nntoto tron — here with your latest weather update from the— here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb update from the met office for on tons. — update from the met office for gb news. quite— update from the met office for gb news. quite a— update from the met office for gb news. quite a warm, humid nront— gb news. quite a warm, humid nttnt tonttnt— gb news. quite a warm, humid night tonight and— gb news. quite a warm, humid night tonight and that'll still be night tonight and that'll still to oront— night tonight and that'll still be around tomorrow though it nit— be around tomorrow though it nttt torn— be around tomorrow though it will turn fresher— be around tomorrow though it will turn fresher later in the nortn—nost— will turn fresher later in the north—west-this- will turn fresher later in the north—west this cold north—west behind this cold front— north—west behind this cold tront nnon— north—west behind this cold front which is— north—west behind this cold front which is slowly heading in at front which is slowly heading in ot tno— front which is slowly heading in at the moment.— front which is slowly heading in at the moment. but these weather fronts— at the moment. but these weather tronts nono— at the moment. but these weather fronts have been— at the moment. but these weather fronts have been bringing quite a fronts have been bringing quite o tit— fronts have been bringing quite o tit ot— fronts have been bringing quite o tit ot toin— fronts have been bringing quite a bit of rain across the country tnrottn— a bit of rain across the country tnrottn tno— a bit of rain across the country through the day— a bit of rain across the country through the day today. still nrotty— through the day today. still nrotty-tnoro- through the day today. still pretty there this pretty damp out there this onontnt— pretty damp out there this evening eastern england, evening over eastern england, soottont— evening over eastern england,i soottont—ont scotland, northern england and norton— scotland, northern england and northern ireland.— scotland, northern england and northern ireland. the rain tonttnt— northern ireland. the rain tonttnt-ott- northern ireland. the rain tending out into the tending to head out into the tonn— tending to head out into the tort soo— tending to head out into the north sea, many places becoming dry. north sea, many places becoming try—soon- north sea, many places becoming try—soon nnon- dry. so we haven't seen much toin— dry. so we haven't seen much rono-toss— dry. so we haven't seen much rain-across the- dry. so we haven't seen much rain across the south rain again across the south tnrottn— rain again across the south tnrontn tno— rain again across the south through the day today and onorntttt— through the day today and overnight,-dry,- overnight, it stays dry, predominantly , a overnight, it stays dry,- predominantly-, a bit predominantly cloudy, a bit misty— predominantly cloudy, a bit misty-nutty- predominantly cloudy, a bit misty-murky in- predominantly cloudy, a bit misty murky in places and misty and murky in places and onto— misty and murky in places and onto — misty and murky in places and quite warm and— misty and murky in places and quite warm and humid. temperatures up quite warm and humid.- temperatures-up at 16 or temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 temperatures holding up at 16 or it costs— temperatures holding up at 16 or t cotstts tn— temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 celsius in most— temperatures holding up at 16 or 17 celsius in most urban areas. so 17 celsius in most urban areas. so o— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so o nrotty— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a pretty warm,— 17 celsius in most urban areas. so a pretty warm, pretty sticky nront— so a pretty warm, pretty sticky nttnt ont— so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night andlhumid,_ so a pretty warm, pretty sticky night and humid, mostly cloudy night and a humid, mostly cloudy ston— night and a humid, mostly cloudy stort to— night and a humid, mostly cloudy start to wednesday— night and a humid, mostly cloudy start to wednesday . the cloud start to wednesday. the cloud nit— start to wednesday. the cloud will thicken— start to wednesday. the cloud will thicken through the day ttrtnor— will thicken through the day further pulses— will thicken through the day further pulses of heavy rain oontnt— further pulses of heavy rain coming-initially- further pulses of heavy rain coming initially to northern coming in initially to northern trotont— coming in initially to northern ireland, spreading ireland, then spreading into torts— ireland, then spreading into parts—scotland.| ireland, then spreading into- parts_scotland. some parts of southern scotland. some sonorsn— parts of southern scotland. some showers-england— parts of southern scotland. some showers england wales showers over england and wales and showers over england and wales ont ototn— showers over england and wales and again,-heavy- showers over england and wales and again, heavy ones ,

and again, some heavy ones, notttontorty— and again, some heavy ones, particularly later— and again, some heavy ones, particularly later on. much of the particularly later on. much of to sottn— particularly later on. much of the south and— particularly later on. much of the south and east of england , the south and east of england, far the south and east of england, tor nortnnost— the south and east of england, far northwest staying dry , far northwest staying dry, ttrntnt— far northwest staying dry, turning fresher here, as i nonttonot— turning fresher here, as i mentioned, but quite warm and nontt— mentioned, but quite warm and humid-england- mentioned, but quite warm and humid england wales. humid across england and wales. mid humid across england and wales. nit-tnrottn— humid across england and wales. mid _through the - mid 20s likely through the ottornoon. — mid 20s likely through the afternoon. but— mid 20s likely through the afternoon. but that humidity may not— afternoon. but that humidity may nott snort— afternoon. but that humidity may well spark some— afternoon. but that humidity may well spark some heavier tonnnotrs— well spark some heavier downpours during the afternoon and downpours during the afternoon ont onontnt.— downpours during the afternoon and evening. parts of northeast tnttont— and evening. parts of northeast england-eastern- and evening. parts of northeast england eastern scotland england and eastern scotland tototo— england and eastern scotland totoro ototn— england and eastern scotland before again that all heads out into— before again that all heads out into tno— before again that all heads out into the north— before again that all heads out into the north sea and something trosnor— into the north sea and something trosnor ont— into the north sea and something fresher and clearer— into the north sea and something fresher and clearer arrives for most— fresher and clearer arrives for most ot— fresher and clearer arrives for most ot ts— fresher and clearer arrives for most ot us on— fresher and clearer arrives for most of us on thursday morning . most of us on thursday morning. but most of us on thursday morning. tot nottto— most of us on thursday morning. but notice the— most of us on thursday morning. but notice the cloud sticks oront— but notice the cloud sticks around across— but notice the cloud sticks around across the south—east and it nit— around across the south—east and it wt to— around across the south—east and it wt to o— around across the south—east and it will be a warm,— around across the south—east and it will be a warm, humid night noro— it will be a warm, humid night too nttn— it will be a warm, humid night here with some— it will be a warm, humid night here with some further outbreaks of here with some further outbreaks ot toin— here with some further outbreaks ot ont— here with some further outbreaks of rain and some— here with some further outbreaks of rain and some welcome rain tost— of rain and some welcome rain across east anglia— of rain and some welcome rain across east anglia in the south—east— across east anglia in the south—east that may linger osttotty— south—east that may linger oottotty tor— south—east that may linger actually for much of thursday. sono— actually for much of thursday. some question— actually for much of thursday. some question marks about oxootty— some question marks about oxootty nnon— some question marks about exactly when that will clear tnrottn — exactly when that will clear through brighter skies elsewhere for through brighter skies elsewhere tor nost— through brighter skies elsewhere for most sunnier,_ through brighter skies elsewhere for most sunnier, fresher day, tnoro-tt— for most sunnier, fresher day, there'll still— for most sunnier, fresher day, there'll still be— for most sunnier, fresher day, there'll still be some showers torts— there'll still be some showers across parts of— there'll still be some showers across parts of the west in notttoton— across parts of the west in particular, but— across parts of the west in particular, but as i said, for most— particular, but as i said, for most. not— particular, but as i said, for most, we'll notice that fresher toot— most, we'll notice that fresher toot tnot— most, we'll notice that fresher feel that humidity drops once more temperatures be more and temperatures will be toot— more and temperatures will be toot-tno— more and temperatures will be back-the average- more and temperatures will be back the average for back close to the average for toto — back close to the average for toto-titt— back close to the average for late - high teens - back close to the average for late high teens in the late june. high teens in the nortn— late june. high teens in the norm-zes— late june. high teens in the

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good evening with gb news. our top - good evening with gb news. our top story.— - good evening with gb news. our top story-troottnt— - good evening with gb news. our top story,-breaking news.- top story, some breaking news. a nos— top story, some breaking news. a nos toon— top story, some breaking news. a man has been charged with the nrrto— man has been charged with the nrrto ot— man has been charged with the murder of sarah _ man has been charged with the murder of sarah henshaw, whose toty— murder of sarah henshaw, whose toty-totnt— murder of sarah henshaw, whose toty-totnt tn— murder of sarah henshaw, whose body-found in a— murder of sarah henshaw, whose body found in a layby near body was found in a layby near the body was found in a layby near to at— body was found in a layby near the m1 yesterday.— body was found in a layby near the m1 yesterday. derbyshire police— the m1 yesterday. derbyshire nottoo oro— the m1 yesterday. derbyshire police are saying the suspect is 36 police are saying the suspect is to yoor— police are saying the suspect is to yoor ott— police are saying the suspect is 36 year old darren— police are saying the suspect is 36 year old darren hall. sarah tonsnott-s— 36 year old darren hall. sarah henshall's body— 36 year old darren hall. sarah henshall's body was discovered just henshall's body was discovered inst ottor— henshall's body was discovered just after midnight yesterday , just after midnight yesterday, toso— just after midnight yesterday, otoso to— just after midnight yesterday, close to junction— just after midnight yesterday, close to junction 29 of the notornoy. — close to junction 29 of the motorway. the— close to junction 29 of the motorway. the 31 year old mother of motorway. the 31 year old mother ot tno— motorway. the 31 year old mother ot tno os— motorway. the 31 year old mother of two was last— motorway. the 31 year old mother of two was last seen— motorway. the 31 year old mother of two was last seen at her home ottross— of two was last seen at her home ottross tn— of two was last seen at her home address in ilkeston_ of two was last seen at her home address in ilkeston last tnostoy— address in ilkeston last tuesday. her- address in ilkeston last tuesday. her mother has tosorttot— tuesday. her mother has described her— tuesday. her mother has described her as a wonderful tontntor— described her as a wonderful tontntor ont— described her as a wonderful daughter and sister that news inst— daughter and sister that news inst tnto— daughter and sister that news inst tnto ns— daughter and sister that news inst tnto ns tn— daughter and sister that news just into us in the last half nonr. — just into us in the last half nonr. ton.— just into us in the last half hour. now, the— just into us in the last half hour. now, the inquest today tnto— hour. now, the inquest today tnto ttooto— hour. now, the inquest today into nicola bully's death concluded— into nicola bully's death concluded that the mother of two

trot— concluded that the mother of two ttot tron — concluded that the mother of two