is dewbs& c0 is dewbs& co a packed show coming up for you tonight. the government have been in court yet again. and you know why it is, of course, the rwanda plan . is, of course, the rwanda plan. they lost, though it's not going to happen. they're not going to be able to, as it stands, send people over to rwanda. what happens next then, guys.7 is it a case of ignore the courts and push on anyway or the flip side of it is the government should drop it all together and come up with something new. what says you .7 and do you know what a c, you.7 and do you know what a c, b d, c you? and do you know what a c, b d, c is a digital pound to give it another name. do you think that we need a central bank digital currency in this country? i for one, find this a very dangerous path to tread. what do you say to it ? and what do you say to it? and labour have backtracked on their plans for rent controls . do you plans for rent controls. do you think we should cut rents if so,

who gets to decide what is appropriate and what happens if landlords miss out? what happens if they take the properties off the market and in today's world gone mad? news school girls getting assaulted sexually assaulted in gender neutral toilets in their own schools, why are they even a thing? we're going to have it all to come and more. but before we get into it, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest headunes speed with tonight's latest headlines with middlehurst headlines with polly middlehurst . michelle thank you. well, good evening to— . michelle thank you. well, good evening ne yen. — . michelle thank you. well, good evening to you. the— . michelle thank you. well, good evening to you. the top- f well, good evening to you. the top story tonight— evening to you. the top story nenenn n— evening to you. the top story tonight is that— evening to you. the top story tonight is that the home secretary— tonight is that the home secretary says- tonight is that the home secretary says she remains fully committed— secretary says she remains fully committed ne— secretary says she remains fully committed to the— secretary says she remains fully committed to the rwanda policy deepene— committed to the rwanda policy neenne ene— committed to the rwanda policy despite the legal— committed to the rwanda policy despite the legal setback. sneue— despite the legal setback. suella braverman an also engeeenee— suella braverman an also suggested the— suella braverman an also suggested the current system was nggee— suggested the current system was nggee against— suggested the current system was rigged against the— suggested the current system was rigged against the british people.— rigged against the british people. and— rigged against the british people. and earlier, the prime ninetee— people. and earlier, the prime minister said— people. and earlier, the prime minister said he— people. and earlier, the prime minister said he fundamentally disagreed— minister said he fundamentally disagreed with— minister said he fundamentally disagreed with the court of appen— disagreed with the court of appeal ener— disagreed with the court of appeal after they deemed the policy— appeal after they deemed the policy unlawful— appeal after they deemed the policy unlawful ._ appeal after they deemed the policy unlawful . two of the policy unlawful. two of the ennee— policy unlawful. two of the nnnee judges— policy unlawful. two of the three judges found the east african— three judges found the east african country— three judges found the east african country was unsafe and

the african country was unsafe and nne rwandan— african country was unsafe and the rwandan government for its part,— the rwandan government for its pen, nee— the rwandan government for its pen, nee pnenee— the rwandan government for its part, has pushed back on that, saying— part, has pushed back on that, eeging ii— part, has pushed back on that, eeging ii is— part, has pushed back on that, eeging in ie ne— part, has pushed back on that, saying it is one of— part, has pushed back on that, saying it is one of the safest eennneei— saying it is one of the safest countries in— saying it is one of the safest countries in the— saying it is one of the safest countries in the world. and the none— countries in the world. and the home secretary— countries in the world. and the home secretary has said the geveinneni— home secretary has said the government will— home secretary has said the government will seek permission to government will seek permission ie enneei. — government will seek permission ie enneei. new— government will seek permission to appeal. now the supreme to appeal. now to the supreme conn— to appeal. now to the supreme cennl — to appeal. now to the supreme coin. in— to appeal. now to the supreme court-. mr speaker,- to appeal. now to the supreme court . ii.” iii" court fair. mr speaker, on people and our partners in the developing world that we in the west continue to maintain an asylum seeker system. so open to abuse that it incent devises mass flows of economic migration into europe , lining the pockets into europe, lining the pockets of people smugglers and turning our seas into graveyards all in the name of a phoney humanitarian ism. now thames water has appointed a new chair amid pressures. the company inces— amid pressures. the company faces concerns— amid pressures. the company faces concerns about- ”iii? the company faces concerns about its iinneee. — faces concerns about its finances. adrian motty , finances. adrian motty, previously— finances. adrian motty, previously chair of anglo water, niii— previously chair of anglo water, niii inne— previously chair of anglo water, will take over— previously chair of anglo water, will take over on— previously chair of anglo water, will take over on july 10th. inanee— will take over on july 10th. thames water— will take over on july 10th. thames water now says it's working— thames water now says it's working winn— thames water now says it's working with shareholders to secure extra _ working with shareholders to secure extra funding as ninieiene— secure extra funding as ministers draw up contingency pinne— ministers draw up contingency niene ne— ministers draw up contingency

plans to potentially renationalise it in the event of a renationalise it in the event of e eeiienee. — renationalise it in the event of a collapse. the— renationalise it in the event of a collapse. the uk's biggest inner— a collapse. the uk's biggest neiei sunnin— a collapse. the uk's biggest neiei enggig ie— a collapse. the uk's biggest water supply is battling to service— water supply is battling to service ine— water supply is battling to service its £14— water supply is battling to service its £14 billion worth of geni— service its £14 billion worth of debt following _ service its £14 billion worth of debt following interest rate neee— debt following interest rate . new— debt following interest rate rises. now in— debt following interest rate rises . now in france, debt following interest rate rises. now in france, a debt following interest rate rises . now in france, a police rises. now in france, a police officer— rises. now in france, a police officer nee— rises. now in france, a police officer has been— rises. now in france, a police officer has been placed under iennei— officer has been placed under formal investigation for winning— formal investigation for voluntary manslaughter after a ieenege— voluntary manslaughter after a ieenege pizze— voluntary manslaughter after a teenage pizza delivery driver engi— teenage pizza delivery driver was shot dead— teenage pizza delivery driver was shot dead by traffic police. ine— was shot dead by traffic police. ine neinei— was shot dead by traffic police. the mother of— was shot dead by traffic police. the mother of the— was shot dead by traffic police. the mother of the 17 year old nane— the mother of the 17 year old nana ii— the mother of the 17 year old nana ii is— the mother of the 17 year old nana m is leading a march in ngn.g..g._ nana m is leading a march in nanterre. that's— nana m is leading a march in nanterre. that's a— nana m is leading a march in nanterre. that's a western sunnin— nanterre. that's a western eninni ei— nanterre. that's a western suburb of paris,- nanterre. that's a western suburb of paris, in tribute to nei— suburb of paris, in tribute to nen sen— suburb of paris, in tribute to her son demanding justice as at ease— her son demanding justice as at ieeei iso— her son demanding justice as at least 180 people— her son demanding justice as at least 180 people have been eneeieei— least 180 people have been arrested. so— least 180 people have been arrested. so far— least 180 people have been arrested. so far after two nignie— arrested. so far after two nignie ei— arrested. so far after two nights of unrest that followed mini-e— nights of unrest that followed niall's death— nights of unrest that followed niall's death and earlier it was announced 40,000 police officers nonin— announced 40,000 police officers nenii ne— announced 40,000 police officers would be deployed— announced 40,000 police officers would be deployed across the connin— would be deployed across the conning ne— would be deployed across the country to deal— would be deployed across the country to deal with the unrest . ine— country to deal with the unrest . ine iienen— country to deal with the unrest . the french town— country to deal with the unrest . the french town of camargue inne— . the french town of camargue near paris has— . the french town of camargue near paris has imposed a curfew inn— near paris has imposed a curfew inn snoo— near paris has imposed a curfew from 9:00 until— near paris has imposed a curfew from 9:00 until six— near paris has imposed a curfew from 9:00 until six in the morning— from 9:00 until six in the morning until— from 9:00 until six in the morning until monday. now here spying— morning until monday. now here epging en—

morning until monday. now here epging en en— morning until monday. now here spying on left wing groups by a screen— spying on left wing groups by a secret metropolitan police squad ween-i— secret metropolitan police squad wasn't justified. _ secret metropolitan police squad wasn't justified. and the unit enenii— wasn't justified. and the unit should have— wasn't justified. and the unit should have been disbanded. that ener— should have been disbanded. that eiiei e— should have been disbanded. that comes after a public inquiry inne— comes after a public inquiry into undercover— comes after a public inquiry into undercover policing looked at into undercover policing looked ei ine— into undercover policing looked at the activities— into undercover policing looked at the activities of— into undercover policing looked at the activities of the sds or ine— at the activities of the sds or ine speeiei— at the activities of the sds or the special demonstration squad peineen— the special demonstration squad ieineen ines— the special demonstration squad between 1968 and— the special demonstration squad between 1968 and 1982. a spokesperson— between 1968 and 1982. a spokesperson for campaigners enge— spokesperson for campaigners eeyeine— spokesperson for campaigners says the findings are devastating- says the findings are devastating for the police. the peiiee— devastating for the police. the peiiee nee— devastating for the police. the police has apologised for what neppenei— police has apologised for what neppenei even— police has apologised for what happened over 40 years ago, spying— happened over 40 years ago, eeging inni— happened over 40 years ago, saying that undercover policing has saying that undercover policing nee since— saying that undercover policing has since undergone radical eenni— has since undergone radical eenni .— has since undergone radical eenni . new— has since undergone radical reform . now boris johnson's reform. now boris johnson's eiiiee— reform. now boris johnson's eiiiee neve— reform. now boris johnson's allies have been— reform. now boris johnson's allies have been criticised by ine— allies have been criticised by the privileges— allies have been criticised by the privileges committee for vinai— the privileges committee for nnei ii— the privileges committee for what it describes as the undermining— what it describes as the undermining of the house of cennene— undermining of the house of commons procedures. they include nadine— commons procedures. they include nadine dorries,_ commons procedures. they include nadine dorries, sir— commons procedures. they include nadine dorries, sirjacob nadine dorries, sir jacob ieeee—iiegg— nadine dorries, sir jacob rees—mogg and priti patel, the iniviiegee— rees—mogg and priti patel, the privileges committee report. two weeke— privileges committee report. two weeks age— privileges committee report. two weeks ago found— privileges committee report. two weeks ago found the former prime iiinieien— weeks ago found the former prime iiinieien nei— weeks ago found the former prime minister had repeatedly misled neiiieneni— minister had repeatedly misled parliament over— minister had repeatedly misled parliament over covid 19 ineeenee— parliament over covid 19 breaches during lockdown. the inguin— breaches during lockdown. the inquiry enge— breaches during lockdown. the inquiry sags inns— breaches during lockdown. the inquiry says mps should consider nneinei— inquiry says mps should consider whether their— inquiry says mps should consider whether their actions could be in senienpi— whether their actions could be in contempt of— whether their actions could be in contempt of parliament and nnei— in contempt of parliament and nnei innnen—

in contempt of parliament and what further action should be innen. — what further action should be taken. nicola— what further action should be taken. nicola sturgeon has been ieiiing— taken. nicola sturgeon has been ieiiing ine— taken. nicola sturgeon has been telling the covid— taken. nicola sturgeon has been telling the covid 19 inquiry noisy— telling the covid 19 inquiry noisy inni— telling the covid 19 inquiry today that scotland had no plan for today that scotland had no plan iei e— today that scotland had no plan for e nn— today that scotland had no plan for e nin— today that scotland had no plan for a non flu pandemic and that ieenning— for a non flu pandemic and that ieeining inn — for a non flu pandemic and that learning from the— for a non flu pandemic and that learning from the episode was of eniieei— learning from the episode was of critical importance— learning from the episode was of critical importance . the former critical importance. the former insi— critical importance. the former first minister,— critical importance. the former first minister, rather, was gnesiienei— first minister, rather, was questioned this morning on how prepared— questioned this morning on how prepared scotland— questioned this morning on how prepared scotland was as a neiien— prepared scotland was as a neiien eni— prepared scotland was as a nation and how— prepared scotland was as a nation and how well she as a peiiiieien— nation and how well she as a politician handled the pandemic. she politician handled the pandemic. sne siss— politician handled the pandemic. sne eise neig— politician handled the pandemic. she also told the— politician handled the pandemic. she also told the inquiry her geveinneni— she also told the inquiry her government did— she also told the inquiry her government did its best but einiiiei— government did its best but einiiiei ii— government did its best but admitted it didn't get evenining— admitted it didn't get everything right. she was asked sienn— everything right. she was asked eieni ine— everything right. she was asked about the pandemic plan nipping— about the pandemic plan viability in— about the pandemic plan viability in scotland and there was no set plan,— viability in scotland and there was no set plan, which, as i say,— was no set plan, which, as i say, is— was no set plan, which, as i say, is nei— was no set plan, which, as i say, is not the— was no set plan, which, as i say, is not the same as saying ineie— say, is not the same as saying inene nas— say, is not the same as saying inene ne— say, is not the same as saying there was no thinking into how we ieaii— there was no thinking into how we dealt with— there was no thinking into how we dealt with the— there was no thinking into how we dealt with the pandemic that had we dealt with the pandemic that nae ieaiwei— we dealt with the pandemic that had featured and— we dealt with the pandemic that had featured and characteristics of nia— had featured and characteristics of in in— had featured and characteristics of flu in terms— had featured and characteristics of flu in terms of— of flu in terms of transmissibility. of flu in terms of- transmissibility. but also of flu in terms of— transmissibility. but also the severity and the what we came to understand in terms of the asymptomatic transmission of covid 19. so i would readily covid19. so i would readily accept that there was a gap in

in terms of the pandemic. accept that there was a gap in in terms of the pandemic . we in terms of the pandemic. we ultimately were dealing with . ultimately were dealing with. now the three just stop oil pieiesieis— now the three just stop oil protesters who _ now the three just stop oil protesters who invaded the pitch at protesters who invaded the pitch ai ionis— protesters who invaded the pitch at lord's cricket— protesters who invaded the pitch at lord's cricket ground in union— at lord's cricket ground in london yesterday have all been enangei— london yesterday have all been enaigei winn— london yesterday have all been charged with aggravated inespass— charged with aggravated trespass. judith murray, daniel nana— trespass. judith murray, daniel wana gassi— trespass. judith murray, daniel nana, jacob bourne disrupted the second— nana, jacob bourne disrupted the seeene asnes— nana, jacob bourne disrupted the second ashes test— nana, jacob bourne disrupted the second ashes test yesterday . second ashes test yesterday. inew-ie — second ashes test yesterday. inew-ie ewe — second ashes test yesterday. they're due to— second ashes test yesterday. they're due to appear at west iiinsiei— they're due to appear at west minster magistrates court next menin— minster magistrates court next nenin .— minster magistrates court next nenin . ene— minster magistrates court next month . one of— minster magistrates court next month . one of the world's most month. one of the world's most used— month. one of the world's most used artificial— month. one of the world's most used artificial sweeteners could be eeeiaiee— used artificial sweeteners could be eeeiaiee a— used artificial sweeteners could be declared a potential carcinogen _ be declared a potential carcinogen as- be declared a potential carcinogen as soon as next menin— carcinogen as soon as next nenin. wew— carcinogen as soon as next month. new research from the weani— month. new research from the world health— month. new research from the world health organisation has newne— world health organisation has found aspartame, which is used in diei— found aspartame, which is used in die seeas— found aspartame, which is used in diet sodas and— found aspartame, which is used in diet sodas and chewing gum, eewie— in diet sodas and chewing gum, eewie ease— in diet sodas and chewing gum, could cause cancer. the study by the international— could cause cancer. the study by the international agency for ieeseaien— the international agency for ieeseanen en— the international agency for research on cancer revealed the innings— research on cancer revealed the findings .— research on cancer revealed the findings . ane— research on cancer revealed the findings . and last— research on cancer revealed the findings . and last month, the findings. and last month, the wne— findings. and last month, the who. published guidelines w.h.o. published guidelines advising— w.h.o. published guidelines advising consumers not to use aniiieiai— advising consumers not to use artificial sweeteners to lose weigni,— artificial sweeteners to lose weight, causing— artificial sweeteners to lose weight, causing a furore in the need— weight, causing a furore in the need inewsiw— weight, causing a furore in the need inewsiw .— weight, causing a furore in the food industry . you're up to date food industry. you're up to date on food industry. you're up to date en iv— food industry. you're up to date en iv eniine— food industry. you're up to date

on tv online dab+_ food industry. you're up to date on tv online dab+ radio and on the on tv online dab+ radio and on we inne— on tv online dab+ radio and on we iwne in— on tv online dab+ radio and on ine iwne in app.— on tv online dab+ radio and on the tune in app. this is gb news— the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's— the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news . news, britain's news. channel pianis— news, britain's news. channel l inanis fei— news, britain's news. channel i thanks for that,- news, britain's news. channel - thanks for that, polly. i thanks for that, polly. our michelle with michelle dewberry. and i'm with you tonight alongside you until 7:00 tonight alongside my former brexit party mep and the property group, the ceo of first property group, ben journalist and ben habib, and journalist and political commentator michael walker. as well do walker. you also as well do a podcast. are you on property? i do, yes. that is going to be very handy, everyone, because among other things tonight, i do want talk about fact that want to talk about the fact that labour backtracked yet labour have backtracked on yet another pledges, another one of their pledges, which are rent controls, which are about rent controls, whether or not we should have those in first place or not, those in the first place or not, but a cbdc you know what but also a cbdc do you know what that it's not song, it's that is? it's not a song, it's not children's programme or not a children's programme or anything like that. it's a central bank, digital currency. many know what they many people don't know what they are, have potential are, but they have the potential to life as we know it. to change life as we know it. that might be coming our way as well in this country. so i want to get into that as well

tonight. and lots more. and you know the don't you can know the drill. don't you can get touch with me. email get in touch with me. email gbviews@gbnews.com or can gbviews@gbnews.com or you can tweet news. but of tweet me at gb news. but of course, story the day, course, top story of the day, the court of appeal have the court of appeal judges have deemed that the rwanda is deemed that the rwanda plan is unlawful , lawful. it was voted unlawful, lawful. it was voted two against one basically. so one person said it could go ahead. two of the otherjudges ahead. two of the other judges deemed not. this has divided opinion . the response to this, opinion. the response to this, ben, because a few people are now saying it's time for the government just to accept it's not going to work, sack it off and progress in a different direction. the flip side of that will be people like me that say packitin will be people like me that say pack it in with this legal system, ahead system, just push ahead regardless the regardless and deal with the consequences afterwards. what do you it all? well, i've you make to it all? well, i've i've been critical— you make to it all? well, i've i've been critical of- you make to it all? well, i've i've been critical of the- c 7 well, i've i've been critical of the rwanda pian— i've been critical of the rwanda pian iien — i've been critical of the rwanda pian nen ine— i've been critical of the rwanda plan from the minute it was neweaiee— plan from the minute it was neweaiee .— plan from the minute it was revealed . and— plan from the minute it was revealed . and the reason i've revealed. and the reason i've been— revealed. and the reason i've been critical— revealed. and the reason i've been critical of— revealed. and the reason i've been critical of it— revealed. and the reason i've been critical of it is because it been critical of it is because ii-inawgni.— been critical of it is because ii-iiawgni. i— been critical of it is because it fraught. i thought it it was fraught. i thought it wewie— it was fraught. i thought it would .fraught- it was fraught. i thought it would fraught with legal would be fraught with legal paeieiens— would be fraught with legal problems,-just- would be fraught with legal problems, just domestically, problem s, not just domestically, but problems, not just domestically, ewe-a— problems, not just domestically, ewe-a iwepean- problems, not just domestically, but a european court but also with a european court of but also with a european court ei hanan— but also with a european court of human rights.— but also with a european court of human rights. and we saw that wnen— of human rights. and we saw that wnen inew— of human rights. and we saw that wnen inew ined— of human rights. and we saw that when they tried to— of human rights. and we saw that when they tried to take their insi—

when they tried to take their iinsi piane— when they tried to take their first plane load— when they tried to take their first plane load refugees or first plane load of refugees or eepenees— first plane load of refugees or deportees, rather,— first plane load of refugees or deportees, rather, sorry , deportees, rather, sorry, eepenees— deportees, rather, sorry, deportees to _ deportees, rather, sorry, deportees to kigali, you know, all deportees to kigali, you know, aii i— deportees to kigali, you know, aii i ininw— deportees to kigali, you know, all i think 199— deportees to kigali, you know, all i think 199 of— deportees to kigali, you know, all i think 199 of them, bar one:— all i think 199 of them, bar one, were removed by british eewns— one, were removed by british eewns ane— one, were removed by british courts and then— one, were removed by british courts and then the last one was renewed— courts and then the last one was ennewee ew— courts and then the last one was ernewee by a— courts and then the last one was removed by a european court of human— removed by a european court of human ieignrs— removed by a european court of human rights ruling. but it's arse— human rights ruling. but it's also extreme— human rights ruling. but it's also extreme expensive. we eiseeweree— also extreme expensive. we discovered that— also extreme expensive. we discovered that the other day , discovered that the other day, iiioeoo— discovered that the other day, £170,000 cost— discovered that the other day, £170,000 cost per— discovered that the other day, £170,000 cost per head. you knew,— £170,000 cost per head. you knew, ane— £170,000 cost per head. you knew, and if— £170,000 cost per head. you know, and if this— £170,000 cost per head. you know, and if this is meant to aer— know, and if this is meant to aer as— know, and if this is meant to aer as a— know, and if this is meant to act as a deterrent— know, and if this is meant to act as a deterrent to more peepie— act as a deterrent to more people crossing- act as a deterrent to more people crossing from france to the people crossing from france to we iiniree— people crossing from france to the united kingdom , what it had the united kingdom, what it had to the united kingdom, what it had re ee— the united kingdom, what it had re re, wnar— the united kingdom, what it had re re, wnar ir— the united kingdom, what it had to do, what it had— the united kingdom, what it had to do, what it had to be, was an effieieni— to do, what it had to be, was an efficient, slick— to do, what it had to be, was an efficient, slick deportation rneenarisrn— efficient, slick deportation mechanism that got lots of peepie— mechanism that got lots of peepie err— mechanism that got lots of people off british soil efficiently— people off british soil efficiently .- people off british soil efficiently . quickly to rwanda. efficiently. quickly to rwanda. it efficiently. quickly to rwanda. n was— efficiently. quickly to rwanda. n newer— efficiently. quickly to rwanda. it was never going to achieve war.— it was never going to achieve new even— it was never going to achieve rnar. even if— it was never going to achieve that. even if it— it was never going to achieve that. even if it got over all we— that. even if it got over all we regai— that. even if it got over all the legal hurdles . and the the legal hurdles. and the preiien — the legal hurdles. and the problem with— the legal hurdles. and the problem with our government's peiiew— problem with our government's peiiew en— problem with our government's policy on border— problem with our government's policy on border control is that it policy on border control is that i rries— policy on border control is that i rries re— policy on border control is that it tries to see— policy on border control is that it tries to see it— policy on border control is that it tries to see it through deportation— it tries to see it through deportation policy on deportation- deportation policy on deportation , on deportation is deportation, on deportation is aerwaiiw— deportation, on deportation is aerwaiiw wnar— deportation, on deportation is actually what you do when border eenrrei— actually what you do when border eenrrei nas— actually what you do when border

control has failed _ actually what you do when border control has failed ._ actually what you do when border control has failed . so the control has failed. so the government's— control has failed. so the government's actually given up enireiw— government's actually given up enrireiw. we— government's actually given up entirely. we have— government's actually given up entirely. we have an unenforced out entirely. we have an unenforced ear easre— entirely. we have an unenforced out eastern border— entirely. we have an unenforced out eastern border between ourselves and— out eastern border between ourselves and france . and ourselves and france. and i een-r— ourselves and france. and i een-r knew— ourselves and france. and i don't know if— ourselves and france. and i don't know if i've got 30s more . nave— don't know if i've got 30s more . nawe i— don't know if i've got 30s more . nawe i ger— don't know if i've got 30s more . have i got 30s— don't know if i've got 30s more . have i got 30s more? 4:3. don't know if i've got 30s more . have i got 30s more? 413.03“ . have i got 30s more? you can bring— . have i got 30s more? you can bring michael and then we'll come back. michael what do you make to it? well, i mean, i think what you're suggesting is to leave the european convention on human rights because that's what it would mean to sort of push this, push forward with this, regardless of what any judge says. i think, no, in the says. and i think, no, in the first i would come first instance, i would come on to perhaps a secondary to that perhaps as a secondary thought. my primary thought thought. but my primary thought would get a would be let's just get a planeload deal with planeload out there, deal with the later, whatever the consequences later, whatever consequences there may be. well, suppose what the judges well, i suppose what the judges nave— well, i suppose what the judges nawe sain— well, i suppose what the judges nawe said in— well, i suppose what the judges have said in this— well, i suppose what the judges have said in this instance is war— have said in this instance is war-weare— have said in this instance is that would breach have said in this instance is. that-would-breach of that that would be a breach of the-convention- that that would be a breach of the-convention on. that that would be a breach of- the-convention on human the european convention on human reigns.— the european convention on human reigns—ane- the european convention on human reigns—and wnarl rights. and what. well, and what so rights. and what. well, and what se-ir-s— rights. and what. well, and what se-ir-s a— rights. and what. well, and what se-ir-s a geee- so and what it's a good gaesien— so and what it's a good question. right. so so and what it's a good- question. right. so-european question. right. so the european eenwenrien— question. right. so the europeani convention _was convention on human rights was agreei— convention on human rights was agreed—ir- convention on human rights was agreed—n was- agreed in the 1950s. it was pwsnee— agreed in the 1950s. it was pushed political leaders pushed by political leaders ener— pushed by political leaders after-second- pushed by political leaders after second world war after the second world war eeease— after the second world war| eeeawse—re after the second world war- because _to see because they didn't want to see a repear— because they didn't want to see a repear er— because they didn't want to see a repear er rne— because they didn't want to see a repeat of the human a repeat of the kind of human rignrs— a repeat of the kind of human rights abuses— a repeat of the kind of human rights abuses-saw- a repeat of the kind of human rights abuses saw in europe. rights abuses we saw in europe. inen— rights abuses we saw in europe. inen winsren— rights abuses we saw in europe. then winston churchill was one

of then winston churchill was one er rne— then winston churchill was one er rne ain— then winston churchill was one of the main pushers. this was newer-we— of the main pushers. this was never-the world- of the main pushers. this was never the world changed never a but the world changed nassiweiw— never a but the world changed. massively _world massively since then. the world nas—sineel has changed massively since rnen— has changed massively since wen-nas— has changed massively since then,-has still- has changed massively since then, has still provided then, but it has still provided an underpinning— then, but it has still provided an underpinning protecting then, but it has still provided an irights. nning protecting then, but it has still provided an irights. theg protecting then, but it has still provided an irights. the right protecting then, but it has still provided an irights. the right fortecting our rights. the right for association,— our rights. the right for association, right association, the right for rreeeen — association, the right for freedom of _ association, the right for freedom of speech. i association, the right for- freedom of speech.-i suppose freedom of speech. and i suppose i-say_ freedom of speech. and i suppose i-saw ir— freedom of speech. and i suppose i-saw it were— freedom of speech. and i suppose i-say if we're going- freedom of speech. and i suppose i say if we're going to i would say if we're going to newe—wnar- i would say if we're going to move—what has. i would say if we're going to. move _what has been i would say if we're going to- move_what has been a move away from what has been a core-international- move away from what has been a core international law, core plank of international law, were— core plank of international law, were-a— core plank of international law, rnere-a verve- core plank of international law, rnere-a werw wewl there should be a very, very geee— there should be a very, very geee reasen— there should be a very, very good reason. and if we look at we— good reason. and if we look at rne-er— good reason. and if we look at rne-er peepie- good reason. and if we look at the-of people who. good reason. and if we look at the of people who are the numbers of people who are arriving— the numbers of people who are arriving in— the numbers of people who are arriving in britain— the numbers of people who are arriving in britain claiming aswiwn— arriving in britain claimingi aswiwn—nanw asylum, it's not that many, rignre— asylum, it's not that many, rignre se— asylum, it's not that many, rignre semin— asylum, it's not that many, right? so uk, there were right? so the uk, there were 75,000— right? so the uk, there were iaooo-wne - right? so the uk, there were- 75,000 -who - asylum 75,000 people who claimed asylum nere— 75,000 people who claimed asylum nee—ir- 75,000 people who claimed asylum nere—ir was- here last year in france, it was newe.— here last year in france, it was newe-wear— here last year in france, it was 130,000. year germany it 130,000. last year in germany it zooeoo. — 130,000. last year in germany it was 200,000. last— 130,000. last year in germany it was 200,000. last year. r:r:::r" c was 200,000. last year. i don't aneur— was 200,000. last year. i don't care about france and germany because there. i because i don't live there. i care the uk. you care care about the uk. okay you care about uk. but what i'm about the uk. but what i'm sawing— about the uk. but what i'm sawing is— about the uk. but what i'm sawing is wen,— about the uk. but what i'm saying is well, i— but what i'm saying is well, i mean, to be nenesr,— saying is well, i mean, to be nenesr, i— saying is well, i mean, to be honest, i don't— saying is well, i mean, to be honest, i don't necessarily rninw— honest, i don't necessarily think particularly think that is a particularly neiprwi— think that is a particularly neiprwi way— think that is a particularly helpful way looking at the helpful way of looking at the were.— helpful way of looking at the weird. i— helpful way of looking at the weird. i-we— helpful way of looking at the world. i-we.need. helpful way of looking at the world. i we need to world. i think we do need to nave— world. i think we do need to have some sort— world. i think we do need to have some sort of international respensipiiirw— have some sort of international responsibility to— have some sort of international responsibility to our partners, but responsibility to our partners, in i— responsibility to our partners, in i rninw— responsibility to our partners, but i think it— responsibility to our partners, but i think it-be- responsibility to our partners, but i think it be shame responsibility to our partners, btthe think it be shame responsibility to our partners, btthe uk k it be shame responsibility to our partners, btthe uk goes be shame responsibility to our partners, btthe uk goes it be shame responsibility to our partners, btthe uk goes it alone shame responsibility to our partners, btthe uk goes it alone like ame if the uk goes it alone like eeeee— if the uk goes it alone like ereeee-in— if the uk goes it alone like greece-in the- if the uk goes it alone like greece in the 1960s when greece did in the 1960s when new— greece did in the 1960s when new nae— greece did in the 1960s when new new a— greece did in the 1960s when they had a military coup. and iike— they had a military coup. and iike iewssia— they had a military coup. and like russia did— they had a military coup. and like russia did when they inwaeee— like russia did when they invaded the invaded ukraine. these are the eniw— invaded ukraine. these are the only-countries— invaded ukraine. these are the only countries left only two countries who've left rne. — only two countries who've left rne. -a— only two countries who've left rne. -a iirrie- only two countries who've left the. -a little bit- the. that's a little bit extreme, referencing it or you've a military coup

you've got a military coup there. you've got this war they're having. this isn't about aswiwn— they're having. this isn't about asylum seekers.— they're having. this isn't about asylum seekers. this- ”it; g this isn't about asylum seekers. this about asylum seekers. this is about peepie— asylum seekers. this is about peepie enrering— asylum seekers. this is about people entering united people entering the united kingeen— kingdom illegally. it's not aberr— kingdom illegally. it's not apewr rwing— kingdom illegally. it's not about trying reduce the about trying to reduce the numeri— about trying to reduce the number people about trying to reduce the number-people asylum about trying to reduce the nuthetrlpeople asylum about trying to reduce the nuthe ukipeople asylum about trying to reduce the nuthe ukiptsending asylum about trying to reduce the nuthe ukiptsending rtolum in the uk by sending them to rwanda.— in the uk by sending them to rwanda. this— in the uk by sending them to rwanda. this is— in the uk by sending them to rwanda. this is by making it knewn— rwanda. this is by making it knewn rnar— rwanda. this is by making it known that if— rwanda. this is by making it known that if you seek to enter the known that if you seek to enter rne iiniree— known that if you seek to enter the united kingdom illegally and you the united kingdom illegally and wen—ner- the united kingdom illegally and wen—ner ee- the united kingdom illegally and wen—ner ire giweni you do so, you will not be given aswiwn— you do so, you will not be given aswiwn-wiii— you do so, you will not be given asylum.-will-to- asylum. you will be sent to rwanda.— asylum. you will be sent to iewanea. ane— asylum. you will be sent to rwanda. and that's what the new iiiegai— rwanda. and that's what the new iiiegai-niii— rwanda. and that's what the new iiiegai-eiii is- rwanda. and that's what the new illegal-bill is all- illegal migration bill is all aeewr. — illegal migration bill is all about. -think- illegal migration bill is all about. think this latest about. and i think this latest raring,— about. and i think this latest rwiing, ew— about. and i think this latest rwiing, iw ane— about. and i think this latest ruling, by the way, don't ruling, by the way, i don't rnink— ruling, by the way, i don't think-anything- ruling, by the way, i don't think anything to do with think it has anything to do with the-convention- think it has anything to do with the-convention of- think it has anything to do with the convention of human the european convention of human reigns.— the european convention of human reigns—brien- rights. this is domestic british law rights. this is domestic british raw-rarer— rights. this is domestic british law-ruled that- rights. this is domestic british law ruled that rwanda law that has ruled that rwanda is-a— law that has ruled that rwanda is-a suitable— law that has ruled that rwanda is a suitable country to is not a suitable country to wnien— is not a suitable country to wnienlsene— is not a suitable country to which send people . 'r: e which to send people. and it's aneur— which to send people. and it's anewr ene— which to send people. and it's about the safety how they about the safety of how they would treat the asylum seekers. about the safety of how they wo it'streat the asylum seekers. about the safety of how they wo it's nott the asylum seekers. about the safety of how they wo it's not necessarilyn seekers. about the safety of how they wo it's not necessarily isieekers. so it's not necessarily is rwanda a safe place for you to go on your holiday to as i'm interpreting what they're saying, more about whether saying, it's more about whether their be assured. their rights can be assured. yeah. how would treat the yeah. how would they treat the people are asylum seekers people that are asylum seekers and let those people and would they let those people down back to where down and send them back to where they all they could be persecuted and all they could be persecuted and all the it? but my point is the rest of it? but my point is nwen— the rest of it? but my point is ”rise 7 but my point is much more fundamental all than the much more fundamental all than rne appreaen— much more fundamental all than the approach taken— much more fundamental all than the approach taken by the government,— the approach taken by the government, that if government, which is that if someone seeking enter your

someone seeking to enter your eewnrw— someone seeking to enter your eewnrw-wew- someone seeking to enter your eewnrw—wew nave- someone seeking to enter your country you have to country illegally, you have to srep— country illegally, you have to srep-ar— country illegally, you have to srep-ar rne— country illegally, you have to stop-at the point- country illegally, you have to stop at the point of entry. stop them at the point of entry. ane— stop them at the point of entry. ana-nave— stop them at the point of entry. ana-nave air— stop them at the point of entry. and-have all-legal- stop them at the point of entry. and have all legal right and we have all the legal right to and we have all the legal right re-n— and we have all the legal right re-n serriee- to do that. it settled international law that people nwsr— international law that people nwsr ner— international law that people nwsr ner ee— international law that people must not be allowed as if by nagie— must not be allowed as if by nagie. se— must not be allowed as if by nagie. se i— must not be allowed as if by magic. so i asked i asked your preeweer— magic. so i asked i asked your preeweer re— magic. so i asked i asked your producer to kindly— magic. so i asked i asked your producer to kindly put this up ane— producer to kindly put this up and ne— producer to kindly put this up and he consented, which was very geee— and he consented, which was very geee er— and he consented, which was very geee er nin. — and he consented, which was very good of him. this— and he consented, which was very good of him. this is— and he consented, which was very good of him. this is article 33 of good of him. this is article 33 er rne— good of him. this is article 33 er rne iiw — good of him. this is article 33 of the un convention of the law of the un convention of the law er rne— of the un convention of the law er rne sea.— of the un convention of the law of the sea. this— of the un convention of the law of the sea. this is— of the un convention of the law of the sea. this is an established- of the sea. this is an established international law rnar— established international law rnar air— established international law that all members of the un have eewgnr— that all members of the un have eewgnr inre. — that all members of the un have bought into. and— that all members of the un have bought into. and it— that all members of the un have bought into. and it says in a zone contiguous— bought into. and it says in a zone contiguous to its territorial— zone contiguous to its territorial sea, described as a eenrigwews— territorial sea, described as a contiguous zone. _ territorial sea, described as a contiguous zone. so that's a er— contiguous zone. so that's a er warer— contiguous zone. so that's a zone of water just outside your rerrireriai— zone of water just outside your territorial water. _ zone of water just outside your territorial water. the coastal sere— territorial water. the coastal age, in— territorial water. the coastal state, in this— territorial water. the coastal state, in this case, the united kingien— state, in this case, the united «ingeen, new— state, in this case, the united kingdom, may exercise the eenrrei— kingdom, may exercise the control necessary to prevent infringement— control necessary to prevent infringement of— control necessary to prevent infringement of its immigration iaws— infringement of its immigration iaws ane— infringement of its immigration laws and regulations. we have the laws and regulations. we have we rignr— laws and regulations. we have we rignr re— laws and regulations. we have the right to stop— laws and regulations. we have the right to stop the boats as new— the right to stop the boats as new seek— the right to stop the boats as new seek re— the right to stop the boats as they seek to enter our territorial— they seek to enter our territorial water and require rnen— territorial water and require rnen re— territorial water and require rnen re ge— territorial water and require them to go back to france . ' r: them to go back to france. and if sn— them to go back to france. and if new— them to go back to france. and if so, how would— them to go back to france. and if so, how would we— them to go back to france. and if so, how would we do that? then well, we have to have a rrainee— then well, we have to have a trained force _ then well, we have to have a trained force with—

“if“ well, we have to have a trained force with appropriate egaipneni— trained force with appropriate equipment, appropriate boats to inrereepr— equipment, appropriate boats to intercept these— equipment, appropriate boats to intercept these boats. and insreae— intercept these boats. and instead providing a instead of providing a taxi serwiee— instead of providing a taxi serwiee re— instead of providing a taxi service to stop— instead of providing a taxi service to stop them and require rnen— service to stop them and require rnen re— service to stop them and require rnen re ge— service to stop them and require rnen re ge-re— service to stop them and require them to go to france, it's them to go back to france, it's sinpie— them to go back to france, it's sinpie as— them to go back to france, it's simple as that. _ them to go back to france, it's simple as that. let's refuse enn— simple as that. let's refuse enrrw se— simple as that. let's refuse enrrw. se wnar— simple as that. let's refuse entry. so what does this mean rnene — entry. so what does this mean rnene se— entry. so what does this mean then? so there's— entry. so what does this mean then? so there's this- entry. so what does this mean then? r: g then? so there's this dinghy full people on the channel, full of people on the channel, the force boat rocks up, the border force boat rocks up, says to them with a megaphone. whatever, right? not whatever, right? you're not going england. they're going back to england. they're going back to england. they're going of going to tip themselves out of these to create an these dinghies to create an international well to create a water what then? well, water rescue. what then? well, you you rescue them, you don't rescue them . you you push out rescue them. you you push out anerner— rescue them. you you push out anerner eingnw— rescue them. you you push out another dinghy to _ "riparian; you you push out another dinghy to them and you say,— another dinghy to them and you saw eiini— another dinghy to them and you saw, eiini inre— another dinghy to them and you say, climb into that dinghy and go say, climb into that dinghy and ge peek— say, climb into that dinghy and ge eaek re— say, climb into that dinghy and go back to france.— say, climb into that dinghy and go back to france. that's the res— go back to france. that's the iasr gigging— go back to france. that's the last digging vou— go back to france. that's the last digging you get. you can nave— last digging you get. you can nawe any— last digging you get. you can have any number of solutions, inr— have any number of solutions, in new— have any number of solutions, par rnew wen-r— have any number of solutions, but they won't you can but they won't do that. you can nave— but they won't do that. you can nawe any— but they won't do that. you can have any number— but they won't do that. you can have any number of solutions. iiienei. —a- have any number of solutions. michel._a boat michel. you could have a boat regisreree— michel. you could have a boat registered-the- michel. you could have a boat registered the key here registered outside. the key here is-aiiew— registered outside. the key here is-allow-onto- is not to allow them onto a nririsn— is not to allow them onto a british boat— is not to allow them onto a british boat because the minute rnew-re— british boat because the minute rnew-re en— british boat because the minute rnew-re en a— british boat because the minute they're on a british boat, they get they're on a british boat, they ger prereeree— they're on a british boat, they get protected exactly the get protected by the exactly the kings— get protected by the exactly the kings-rignrs- get protected by the exactly the kinds-rights laws- get protected by the exactly the kinds rights laws and kinds of human rights laws and ewerwrning— kinds of human rights laws andi ewerwrning—new everything else that we are now srrwggiing— everything else that we are now snagging-in— everything else that we are now struggling in courts. struggling with in our courts. wnar— struggling with in our courts. wnar-re-isl struggling with in our courts. what-to-is that what they have to know is that new— what they have to know is that new wiri— what they have to know is that new wiii ner— what they have to know is that they will not be _ what they have to know is that they will not be allowed to get rnar— they will not be allowed to get that protection. _ they will not be allowed to get that protection. jrzzr they will not be allowed to get that protection. jr:::r that protection. do you think that's fair? well, so to- that protection. jr:::r ”7’ well, so to just go

that's fair? well, so to just go peek— that's fair? well, so to just go backla— that's fair? well, so to just go back-a previous— that's fair? well, so to just go back-a previous point,- back to a previous point, i mean, mentioned in the mean, it was mentioned in the eewn— mean, it was mentioned in the eewn-rnar— mean, it was mentioned in the court-that what- mean, it was mentioned in the court that what this court ruling that what this weare— court ruling that what this would -article. court ruling that what this. would -article three court ruling that what this- would -article three of would breach is article three of the-convention- would breach is article three of the-convention on. would breach is article three of- the-convention on human the european convention on human reigns.— the european convention on human ieignrs. se— the european convention on human ieignrs. se wnw— the european convention on human rights. so why brought up rights. so why i brought up eeeee— rights. so why i brought up greece-russia- rights. so why i brought up greece russia is they're the greece and russia is they're the enig— greece and russia is they're the only-countries— greece and russia is they're the only countries who've left only two countries who've left it only two countries who've left ir-se — only two countries who've left ir-se wniie — only two countries who've left it-so while they- only two countries who've left it so while they might it so far. so while they might seem -extreme- it so far. so while they might seem extreme examples, they seem like extreme examples, they weare— seem like extreme examples, they wewie—rwe- would be the only other two peepie— would be the only other two peepie-grewp- would be the only other two peepie-grewp er- would be the only other two people group of people people in the group of people wnen—gees- people in the group of people who'd—does that who'd left. but why does that narrere— who'd left. but why does that matter?-does_ who'd left. but why does that matter?-does it- who'd left. but why does that matter? does it matter? matter? why does it matter? war,— matter? why does it matter? weir—earl well, i think it makes our eewnrrw— well, i think it makes our country look— well, i think it makes our country look pretty poor if we wne— country look pretty poor if we wne. re— country look pretty poor if we wne. ie wnee— country look pretty poor if we who. to who? well to the global eennwnirw— who. to who? well to the global community suppose community and i suppose to nwseir. — community and i suppose to nwseir. -do_ community and i suppose to myself. -d0.care. community and i suppose to. myself. -d0.care what community and i suppose to- myself. .do .care what the myself. why do we care what the global community think? well, because i do think that- global community think? well, because i do think that i- g f " “

in was— the eu was right. so much of the in re— the eu was right. so much of the in re saw— the eu was right. so much of the eu was to say, let's— the eu was right. so much of the eu was to say, let's integrate raee— eu was to say, let's integrate raee ane— eu was to say, let's integrate france and germany so they can newer-re— france and germany so they can newerlre-again.- france and germany so they can never-to-again. but- never go to war again. but i win— never go to war again. but i rnink wee— never go to war again. but i think we'd be— never go to war again. but i think we'd be on- never go to war again. but i think we'd be on dangerous rerrirew— think we'd be on dangerous rerrirew ir— think we'd be on dangerous territory if we— think we'd be on dangerous territory if we-it- think we'd be on dangerous territory if we it doesn't territory if we say it doesn't newer— territory if we say it doesn't matter-other- territory if we say it doesn't. matter-other country matter what any other country rninks— matter what any other country thinks—doesn't- thinks about us, it doesn't newer— thinks about us, it doesn't matter-human- thinks about us, it doesn't matter- human i'm matter about human rights. i'm all matter about human rights. i'm aii igne— matter about human rights. i'm aii rignr, new.— matter about human rights. i'm all right, jack. we— matter about human rights. i'm all right, jack. we just do our wing.— all right, jack. we just do our own thing. that's— all right, jack. we just do our own thing. that's how end up own thing. that's how you end up gerring— own thing. that's how you end up gerring iwnpee— own thing. that's how you end up gerring iwnpee in— own thing. that's how you end up getting lumped in groups with. win— getting lumped in groups with. win-rarin— getting lumped in groups with. with putin russia with vladimir putin in russia ane— with vladimir putin in russia and-niiirarw- and a and a military dictatorship- and a and a military dictatorship the dictatorship in greece in the wees. — dictatorship in greece in the wees. inne— dictatorship in greece in the 1960s. .me, the- dictatorship in greece in the 1960s. for me, the primary concern international concern is not our international reputation. primary reputation. an the primary concern is sovereignty in concern to me is sovereignty in this country. so actually that this country. so actually that this country. so actually that this country have final say this country have the final say in we do and don't have and in what we do and don't have and what don't and what we do and don't want and all of it. so for me, all the rest of it. so for me, that's a core principle. sovereignty is here in this country. secondly, to ben's point, about saying, point, this is not about saying, you know, are genuinely you know, if you are genuinely in of being persecuted or in risk of being persecuted or tortured we tortured or whatever, then we you we're not going to you know, we're not going to help because i don't think help you because i don't think like all. i think, for like that at all. i think, for example, the people in afghanistan that we're to afghanistan that we're trying to help, should help, i think we should have helped of them. actually. helped more of them. actually. those people that helped us in afghanistan. i think it's shameful haven't helped shameful that we haven't helped more of those people. genuine more of those people. so genuine asylum are in asylum seekers that are in dangen asylum seekers that are in danger, we would danger, of course we would help, but about that. this

but this isn't about that. this is an abusive system and is about an abusive system and us to stop it. us being powerless to stop it. well, i mean, it is about saying that. i'm afraid to so. so that. i'm afraid to say so. so rne— that. i'm afraid to say so. so we reasen— that. i'm afraid to say so. so the reason the— i'm afraid to say so. so the reason the courts have made rnis— the reason the courts have made rnis eeeisien— the reason the courts have made this decision today— the reason the courts have made this decision today because this decision today is because rnew-we—enel they've said, well, for one, its— they've said, well, for one, its wen— they've said, well, for one, it's very important to recognise rnar— it's very important to recognise rnar ir— it's very important to recognise rnar if wea— it's very important to recognise rnar ir wen are— it's very important to recognise that if you are an— it's very important to recognise that if you are an asylum seeker fren— that if you are an asylum seeker from -countries,_ that if you are an asylum seeker from countries, there from most countries, there is no way— from most countries, there is no wat/igg— from most countries, there is no wawlgerlerirain— from most countries, there is no way get britain other than way to get to britain other than irregwiariw— way to get to britain other than reggae-ine— way to get to britain other than irregularly. no, that's not irregularly. so no, that's not were— irregularly. so no, that's not rnee-regai- irregularly. so no, that's not there legal routes, there aren't legal routes, there arere-wres— there aren't legal routes, there are-routes,-aren't,| are legal routes, there aren't, rnere— are legal routes, there aren't, rnee-regai- are legal routes, there aren't, there legal routes from there are only legal routes from ukraine— there are only legal routes from ukraine afghanistan, ukraine and then afghanistan, airnewgn— although we haven't and hong keng— although we haven't and hong keng-erner— although we haven't and hong kong other programs to kong for and other programs to 12 kong for and other programs to iz-nwr— kong for and other programs to iz-nwr ir— kong for and other programs to 12-but if you're- kong for and other programs to 12 but if you're from 12 months. but if you're from ran— 12 months. but if you're from ran ir— 12 months. but if you're from ran i were— 12 months. but if you're from iran, if you're from iraq, where iers— iran, if you're from iraq, where we er— iran, if you're from iraq, where we er rnese— iran, if you're from iraq, where lots of these people are from, you— lots of these people are from, wen—rne- lots of these people are from, you _the reason . you can't. and the reason they're coming from france, they're coming from france, they're from of they're not coming from any of these countries. well, these war torn countries. well, they're safe. i have— these war torn countries. well, they're safe. i have two- they're safe. i have two prepiens— they're safe. i have two problems-this- they're safe. i have two problems this argument. problems with this argument. oner_ problems with this argument. one—a- problems with this argument. ene—a i- problems with this argument. ene—a i rninki problems with this argument. i one,_a i think we one, which is we as a i think we snewie— one, which is we as a i think we should probably— one, which is we as a i think we should probably all— one, which is we as a i think we should probably all accept that, war— should probably all accept that, rnar rnere— should probably all accept that, rnar rnere is— should probably all accept that, that there is a— should probably all accept that, that there is a right for rerwgees— that there is a right for refugees to— that there is a right for refugees to seek asylum. and we as—rne— as countries in the international should international community should rake—inaneei take our fair share. now, france is—i— take our fair share. now, france is—i een-r- is already taking i don't understand— is already taking i don't understand what is already taking i don't understand-what fair understand what what is a fair snaree— understand what what is a fair snaree i— understand what what is a fair share? i mean,— understand what what is a fair share? i mean, a— understand what what is a fair share? i mean, a fair share i— share? i mean, a fair share means i think— share? i mean, a fair share means i think you're taking means i think that you're taking nigranrs— migrants somewhere in prepenien. — migrants somewhere in- proportion. _should we proportion. but why should we take any migrants? why should we take any migrants? why should we rake—ir— take any migrants? why should we rake—if we— take any migrants? why should we take _if we don't- take it? because if we don't

rake— take it? because if we don't rake-wnw— take it? because if we don't take-why should- take it? because if we don't take why should anyone else take any, why should anyone else rakee— take any, why should anyone else we wnw— take any, why should anyone else take? why should— take any, why should anyone else take? why should they? 3?in take? why should they? why snowin— take? why should they? why should _take- take? why should they? why should take economic should anyone take an economic migrant? these migrant? well, well, these aen-r — migrant? well, well, these aen-r -are- migrant? well, well, these aren't. .are they're. migrant? well, well, these aren't. are they're the aren't. they are they're the minute they're coming minute they're in france coming to economic to the uk, they're economic migrants. not how these migrants. that's not how these laws work. right. so can be laws work. right. so you can be an aswiwn— laws work. right. so you can be an asylum seeker— laws work. right. so you can be an asylum seeker and- right. so you can be an asylum seeker and you can. inar-s— an asylum seeker and you can. that's-asylum. - an asylum seeker and you can. that's asylum. "er ”it; that's true. asylum. they're safe— that's true. asylum. they're safe . france. _ that's true. asylum. they're safe . france. well. - that's true. asylum. "er ”it; f well. well safe in france. well. well rnew-re— safe in france. well. well they're-subject- safe in france. well. well they're - subject to - they're not subject to persecution - they're not subject to persecution as they would be in rag— persecution as they would be in irag-wnerewer- persecution as they would be in iraq _wherever they i iraq or iran or wherever they eane—nerl iraq or iran or wherever they. eanene—r new came from. but this is not how rnar— came from. but this is not how war-nake— came from. but this is not how that make someone an that doesn't make someone an economic migrant.— that doesn't make someone an economic migrant. so we have inrernarienai— international laws purely economic motivations. it doesn't make. — economic motivations. it doesn't make. ane— economic motivations. it doesn't make. and they're— economic motivations. it doesn't make. g make. and they're breaking the law here. you have you law to get here. you have you have a as an asylum seeker have a right as an asylum seeker to seek asylum you to seek asylum wherever you want. illegal to do want. it's not illegal to do war.— want. it's not illegal to do wan-wars- it's not illegal to do that. that's established that. that's that's established in—ir- in international law. it is iiiegai— in international law. it is iiiegai re— in international law. it is illegal to cross- in international law. it is illegal to cross the channel wirnewr— illegal to cross the channel. without—important without papers. it's important rnar— without papers. it's important war—ire— without papers. it's important rnar—ee rne- without papers. it's important that—be the case. that that would be the case eeease— that that would be the case because _what- that that would be the case. because _what we'd that that would be the case- because _what we'd be because otherwise what we'd be sawing— because otherwise what we'd be saying-millions- because otherwise what we'd be saying-millions of- because otherwise what we'd be saying millions of people saying is the millions of people wne— saying is the millions of people wne-swria— saying is the millions of people who-syria during- saying is the millions of people who syria during the syrian who left syria during the syrian eiwii— who left syria during the syrian eiwii-saw— who left syria during the syrian eiwii-saw wea- who left syria during the syrian civil say you should civil war, we'd say you should all civil war, we'd say you should air-in— civil war, we'd say you should air-in-ane- civil war, we'd say you should all-in-and if. civil war, we'd say you should. all-in-and if you all go stay in greece and if you say— all go stay in greece and if you saw-snewie— all go stay in greece and if you say-should all— all go stay in greece and if you say-should all go- all go stay in greece and if you say should all go in say you should all go stay in eeeee— say you should all go stay in greece, then _ say you should all go stay in greece, then that's going to be a pir— greece, then that's going to be a bi er— greece, then that's going to be a bi er a— greece, then that's going to be a bit of a problem— greece, then that's going to be a bit of a problem for greece, isn-r— a bit of a problem for greece, isn-r pp— a bit of a problem for greece, isn-r ire se— a bit of a problem for greece, isn-r ire se i— a bit of a problem for greece, isn't it? so i think— a bit of a problem for greece, isn't it? so i think we have a preeien. — isn't it? so i think we have a prepien. we— isn't it? so i think we have a problem. we say— isn't it? so i think we have a problem. we say we're lucky enewgn— problem. we say we're lucky enewgn-in— problem. we say we're lucky enough in ireland. we're enough to be in ireland. we're ner— enough to be in ireland. we're ner eireeriw— enough to be in ireland. we're not directly-any-

enough to be in ireland. we're not directly any war not directly bordering any war renn— not directly bordering any war torn-therefore,- not directly bordering any war torn therefore, the torn country. therefore, the peepie—rake- torn country. therefore, the people _take of people who should take all of rnese— people who should take all of rnese aswiwn — people who should take all of these asylum seekers are the eewnners— these asylum seekers are the countries neighbouring these asylum seekers are the countries torn neighbouring these asylum seekers are the countries torn countries. ouring these asylum seekers are the countries torn countries. nowg those war torn countries. now rnar— those war torn countries. now war-ner— those war torn countries. now that-not taking- that is us not taking our responsible— that is us not taking our responsible and that is us not taking our responsible _and i was responsible motty. and if i was in-er— responsible motty. and if i was in-er rnese— responsible motty. and if i was in of those countries that in one of those countries that near— in one of those countries that new re— in one of those countries that was next to .of- in one of those countries that was next to of those war was next to one of those war renn— was next to one of those war torn countries,— was next to one of those war torn countries, i— was next to one of those war torn countries, i would be saving— torn countries, i would be sawing-aren-r- torn countries, i would be- saying,-aren't-taking saying, why aren't you taking wear—eenr- saying, why aren't you taking wear—ean-r iasri your fair share? we can't just say,— your fair share? we can't just saw—wnar- your fair share? we can't just saw—wnar a- your fair share? we can't just say,_what a fair| say, i don't know what a fair snare— say, i don't know what a fair share-ireland,— say, i don't know what a fairi share.|reland,_not share in ireland, so we're not geing— share in ireland, so we're not geingltake_ share in ireland, so we're not goingltake a— share in ireland, so we're not going-take a fair- share in ireland, so we're not going take a fair share. going to take a fair share. ris— going to take a fair share. we seen— going to take a fair share. we seen an— going to take a fair share. it's such an emotive- going to take a fair share. it's such an emotive term without having definition. without having any definition. what so you what is a fair share? so you could say a fair— what is a fair share? so you could say a fair share.- ” 7 so you could say a fair share. you eerie— could say a fair share. you eerie saw— could say a fair share. you could say that— could say a fair share. you could say that all the people wne— could say that all the people wne wanr— could say that all the people who want-come- could say that all the people who want come europe, who want to come to europe, we wiri— who want to come to europe, we win—re- who want to come to europe, we| will—to according will divide them up to according per—in- per capita, who lives in a eewnrw— per capita, who lives in a country-you- per capita, who lives in a country-you say- per capita, who lives in a country you say every country country so you say every country in iwrepe— country so you say every country in iwrepe nas— country so you say every country in inrepe nas a— country so you say every country in europe has a responsibility to in europe has a responsibility re-nwnier— in europe has a responsibility to-number of- in europe has a responsibility to number of refugees to take a number of refugees prepenienare— to take a number of refugees proportionate their proportionate to their population. well, do you share that at home? it's that view at home? i think it's a quite frankly. a bit bonkers, quite frankly. but it up to guys. but i'll open it up to you guys. all views welcome. what are you shouting as shouting at your screens as we have conversation? have this conversation? i've got to much coming up to say, it's so much coming up tonight. central bank digital currency. you even know what currency. do you even know what that that that is? that is something that might our way soon. might be coming our way soon. and if you

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gb news radio. hello there. i'm iiieneiie— gb news radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry— gb news radio. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with- cit \ 33g: hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you cit \ 35g: hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you until eaee.— michelle dewberry with you until iroo. owne— michelle dewberry with you until me. one an— michelle dewberry with you until 7:00. quite an interesting eeeare— 7:00. quite an interesting eeiare iasr— 7:00. quite an interesting debate just then in terms of wnar— debate just then in terms of wnar en— debate just then in terms of what on earth— debate just then in terms of what on earth do we do next when it what on earth do we do next when i es— what on earth do we do next when i re— what on earth do we do next when it comes to rwanda— what on earth do we do next when it comes to rwanda .— what on earth do we do next when it comes to rwanda . get your it comes to rwanda. get your rnewgnrs— it comes to rwanda. get your thoughts coming— it comes to rwanda. get your thoughts coming in and i'll snare— thoughts coming in and i'll share some before the end of the pregranne— share some before the end of the programme alongside me, the fermen— programme alongside me, the tamer—win- programme alongside me, the. former—mep,-of former brexit party mep, ceo of rirsr—as- former brexit party mep, ceo of rirsr—as weir- former brexit party mep, ceo ofi first—as well ben first property group as well ben naeiie— first property group as well ben habib,-journalist,- habib, and the journalist, peiirieai— habib, and the journalist,- political—michael political commentator michael waiker— political commentator michael waiker .— political commentator michael waiker. iers— political commentator michael walker. lots coming political commentator michael walker . lots coming way, walker. lots coming your way, ear— walker. lots coming your way, in wen— walker. lots coming your way, but very interesting consultation closes tomorrow. iianw— consultation closes tomorrow. iianw er— consultation closes tomorrow. iianw er wea— consultation closes tomorrow. many of you might not even know rnar— many of you might not even know rnar ir— many of you might not even know rnar i is— many of you might not even know rnar i is a— many of you might not even know that it is a thing— many of you might not even know that it is a thing .— many of you might not even know that it is a thing . do you know that it is a thing. do you know wnar— that it is a thing. do you know wnar a— that it is a thing. do you know what a central— that it is a thing. do you know what a central bank digital ewrenew is— what a central bank digital currency is ?_ what a central bank digital currency is ? so—called the currency is? so—called the eigirai— currency is? so—called the digital pound— currency is? so—called the digital pound .— currency is? so—called the digital pound . and i imagine digital pound. and i imagine rnar— digital pound. and i imagine rnar nanw— digital pound. and i imagine rnar nanw er— digital pound. and i imagine that many of you might say, no, you— that many of you might say, no, wen een-r— that many of you might say, no, wen een-r knew— that many of you might say, no, you don't know what it is . here you don't know what it is. here to you don't know what it is. here re neip— you don't know what it is. here re neip as— you don't know what it is. here to help us understand what it is ane— to help us understand what it is and wnar— to help us understand what it is and wnar ir— to help us understand what it is and what it means— to help us understand what it is and what it means is the ieenenisr— and what it means is the economist vicky price. good evening— economist vicky price. good ewening re— economist vicky price. good evening to you,— economist vicky price. good evening to you, vicky. cut srraignr— evening to you, vicky. cut srraignr re — evening to you, vicky. cut straight to the _ evening to you, vicky. cut straight to the chase. helped my viewers understand what is a eenrrai— viewers understand what is a central bank— viewers understand what is a central bank digital currency . central bank digital currency. it's central bank digital currency. we a— central bank digital currency. its a serene— central bank digital currency. it's a currency that— central bank digital currency. it's a currency that is- central bank digital currency. it's a currency that is issued by the central bank. the bank of england in this case is being considered in lots of other

countries as well. and you'll have a certain amount that you can each person can have can use each person can have something somewhere between £10,000 and £20,000 in that currency , which basically allows currency, which basically allows you use this money to pay for you to use this money to pay for all sorts of things that you may need without through the need without going through the banking which banking system basically, which makes cheaper supposedly and makes it cheaper supposedly and quicker for those transaction to take place. but it is meant to be in parallel with cash. in other words, with with sterling , which will be issued by the central bank. so it's not eliminating cash altogether, but it is a serious problem in terms of what does it mean for the banking system as a whole if you don't use the banking system when you're doing those transaction possibly. transaction loans? possibly. and what also mean in terms what does it also mean in terms of do you have anonymity of do you have of anonymity when you're transaction or you're doing this transaction or will eventually this central bank currency take over all other means of transactions that you make and therefore you become basically seen as , you become basically seen as, you know, without us, you make by the state making those transactions. so anonymity sort of disappears from the system . of disappears from the system. yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i

an— yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i an ner— yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i an ner a— yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i an ner a ran— yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i am not a fan-cbd- yeah. i've got to say, vicky, i am not a fan cbd at all. i am not a fan of cbd at all. i rer— am not a fan of cbd at all. i rer rne— am not a fan of cbd at all. i for the reasons— am not a fan of cbd at all. i for the reasons that you eeseriee— for the reasons that you ieseriiee .— for the reasons that you describe , there's a massive loss describe, there's a massive loss of describe, there's a massive loss er priwaew— describe, there's a massive loss er priwaew. n— describe, there's a massive loss er priwaew. ir wea— describe, there's a massive loss of privacy. if you ask me. were— of privacy. if you ask me. you're seeding- of privacy. if you ask me. you're seeding control essentially— you're seeding control essentially to an organised an the essentially to an organised an we bank— essentially to an organised an we nank er— essentially to an organised an the bank of england who quite nanny— the bank of england who quite frankly view,— the bank of england who quite frankly vicki/r i— the bank of england who quite frankly vicky, i would say have eenawee— frankly vicky, i would say have behaved appallingly and you knew,— behaved appallingly and you knew, i— behaved appallingly and you know, i would— behaved appallingly and you know, i would say probably quite negiigenriw— know, i would say probably quite negligently recently they've raiiee— negligently recently they've raiiee in— negligently recently they've failed in their— negligently recently they've failed in their single to job nainrain— failed in their single to job maintain inflation. so why would we wanr— maintain inflation. so why would we wanr re— maintain inflation. so why would we want to seed— maintain inflation. so why would we want to seed even more eenrrei— we want to seed even more eenrrei re— we want to seed even more control to them— we want to seed even more control to them ? will control to them? well, the truth is, of course , that sterling is is, of course, that sterling is backed by the bank of england. it's a legal tender. you can use it wherever you want and pay with it. and this central bank currency will also doing the currency will also be doing the same thing . what the bank of same thing. what the bank of england and other central banks same thing. what the bank of englebeenid other central banks same thing. what the bank of englebeen worried central banks same thing. what the bank of englebeen worried aboutil banks same thing. what the bank of englebeen worried about is)anks same thing. what the bank of englebeen worried about is the .s have been worried about is the growth non—bank financial growth of a non—bank financial intermediaries that have been developed very significantly now and which they cannot control. and the growth of and the second is the growth of cryptocurrencies , which are used cryptocurrencies, which are used not payment, but not so much for payment, but mainly order to perhaps mainly in order to perhaps invest in a currency and hope that the price will go up. but

truth is that it has also been used for criminal transactions and you know where the and hiding. you know where the money also where money is going to and also where it's and what it's coming from. and what exactly is hiding in terms of exactly it is hiding in terms of what has happened behind that type transaction. ian type of transaction. ian so think reaction to this think it is a reaction to this and also a reaction to the fact that is being used a lot that cash is being used a lot less has to be less now. there has to be a strong reason for justifying strong reason forjustifying a moving to a central bank digital currency from where we are now. and i think the consultation thatis and i think the consultation that is going on at present is aimed to take all those issues into before moving into into account before moving into the next phase. and we're still a long way from having decided across all the banks, the central banks of the world and the international monetary fund and international and the bank for international settlements. is the way settlements. so this is the way forward. it could well be forward. but it could well be and think true that cash and i think it is true that cash transactions have declined something possibly 15% of something like possibly 15% of everything that happens now. there higher there were much, much higher just decades but is just a few decades ago, but is there reason for moving there the reason for moving to central bank digital currency? because question i because question mark, before i let you i would let you go, you see, i would raise with this. so raise issue with this. so economists-etceteraj economists and etcetera are saving—

economists and etcetera are sawing-easn- economists and etcetera are sawing-easn is- economists and etcetera are saying, cash is in saying, yes, it's cash is in ieeiine— saying, yes, it's cash is in eeeiine. i— saying, yes, it's cash is in decline. i would argue that's ner— decline. i would argue that's ner eeease— decline. i would argue that's not because in— decline. i would argue that's not because in often cases, persenai— not because in often cases, personal choice— not because in often cases, personal choice .- not because in often cases, personal choice . it's because personal choice. it's because we've been forced in that eireerien. — we've been forced in that direction. to— we've been forced in that direction. to me, this all feels iike— direction. to me, this all feels iike see— direction. to me, this all feels like some kind— direction. to me, this all feels like some kind of— direction. to me, this all feels like some kind of a gender playing— like some kind of a gender piawing ear. — like some kind of a gender playing out. actually remove easn— playing out. actually remove easn as— playing out. actually remove cash as much— playing out. actually remove cash as much as— playing out. actually remove cash as much as possible from rne— cash as much as possible from we swsren— cash as much as possible from we swsren .— cash as much as possible from rne swsren . se— cash as much as possible from the system . so many of my the system. so many of my rer— the system. so many of my viewers, for example, will say rnar— viewers, for example, will say rnar rnew— viewers, for example, will say that they want— viewers, for example, will say that they want to _ viewers, for example, will say that they want to be able to go ane— that they want to be able to go and paw— that they want to be able to go and paw wirn— that they want to be able to go and pay with cash,— that they want to be able to go and pay with cash, but they're not and pay with cash, but they're ner apie— and pay with cash, but they're ner aiie re— and pay with cash, but they're not able to signs— and pay with cash, but they're not able to signs up everywhere sawing— not able to signs up everywhere now saying cashless shop, easniess— now saying cashless shop, cashless restaurant cards only. so, cashless restaurant cards only. se, wes— cashless restaurant cards only. se, wes were— cashless restaurant cards only. so, yes, we're reduced the winner— so, yes, we're reduced the wewrnei er— so, yes, we're reduced the volume of cash- so, yes, we're reduced the volume of cash we use, but rnar-s— volume of cash we use, but that's because— volume of cash we use, but that's because we're being rereee— that's because we're being rereee inre— that's because we're being forced into that— that's because we're being forced into that . forced into that. i have to say that i agree with you entirely in that it you go to places to try and pay by cash and they say only cards. and yet cash is , as only cards. and yet cash is, as i said at the beginning, a legal tenden i said at the beginning, a legal tender. i mean your pound that you're holding, you have to accept i'm very accept it. and i'm very surprised started surprised they started with covid. of things covid. quite a lot of things that started with covid, lots of restrictions to have restrictions seem to have remained very remained since, which make very little sense. and the truth also is we use contactless

is yes, yes, we use contactless payments. do a lot of digital payments. we do a lot of digital cashless transactions anyway. right is , can right now the question is, can you that cost to you reduce some of that cost to retailers maybe retailers and us possibly, maybe the central bank digital currency that . but in currency will do that. but in reality, of people now, reality, lots of people now, particularly the of particularly with the cost of living crisis, are looking at cash a lot more because doing contactless doesn't necessarily tell you've got tell you how much you've got left immediately in your balance. what cash has now balance. and what cash has now allows you to do is perhaps budget a little bit better. and i mentioned this 15% figure for 2021, but actually we've seen a bit of an increase in cash being used for precisely those reasons . and the fact that lots of firms still and retail outlets still don't accept it is a real problem . indeed, you say it problem. indeed, you say it eeesn-r— problem. indeed, you say it doesn't make— problem. indeed, you say it doesn't make much- indeed, you say it doesn't make much sense by the way.— doesn't make much sense by the waw-peneer— doesn't make much sense by the way-perfect sense- doesn't make much sense by the way. perfect sense to way. it makes perfect sense to -rnere- way. it makes perfect sense to ne-rnere is- way. it makes perfect sense to me.-there is an- me. i do think there is an agenda— me. i do think there is an agenda-praw- me. i do think there is an. agenda-play.-have agenda at play. people have got agenda at play. people have got a-eir— agenda at play. people have got a-eir nappy— agenda at play. people have got a-eir nappw ane— agenda at play. people have got a-eir nappw and a- agenda at play. people have got a bit happy and a little a little bit happy and a little bit a little bit happy and a little eir ree— a little bit happy and a little bit too comfortable with the arnewnr— bit too comfortable with the amount-power— bit too comfortable with the amount power and control amount of power and control that new— amount of power and control that they—and- amount of power and control that rnew—ane arel they had during covid and are ieeking— they had during covid and are peeing-in- they had during covid and are looking-it. that's. they had during covid and are looking it. that's my looking to extend it. that's my _irwee— looking to extend it. that's my view-rnee i— looking to extend it. that's my view. pryce i thank you view. vicky pryce i thank you for view. vicky pryce i thank you rer-re— view. vicky pryce i thank you rer-re wea— view. vicky pryce i thank you for-to you know,- view. vicky pryce i thank you for to you know, one of for yours to you know, one of rne— for yours to you know, one of we rnings— for yours to you know, one of the things here— for yours to you know, one of the things here is— for yours to you know, one of the things here is i just want to the things here is i just want re praw— the things here is i just want re piaw rnis— the things here is i just want re piaw rnis re— the things here is i just want to play this to you because

we're talking— to play this to you because we're talking about the bank of ingiane— we're talking about the bank of ingiane ane— we're talking about the bank of england and central bank digital currency. right? but listen to rnis—is- currency. right? but listen to. rnis—is wnere this from the imf. this is where aiarn— this from the imf. this is where aiarn peris— this from the imf. this is where alarm bells ring— this from the imf. this is where alarm bells ring in— this from the imf. this is where alarm bells ring in my mind . alarm bells ring in my mind. iisren— alarm bells ring in my mind. iisren ir— alarm bells ring in my mind. iisren if we— alarm bells ring in my mind. listen if we are— alarm bells ring in my mind. listen if we are to be successful- listen if we are to be successful ,- listen if we are to be successful , decs could not be successful, decs could not be rragnenree— successful, decs could not be fragmented national propositions to fragmented national propositions re nave— fragmented national propositions to have transactions more errieienr— to have transactions more efficient and— to have transactions more efficient and fairer. to have transactions more efficient and fairer . �*wa�*rz; : efficient and fairer. we need swsrenrs— efficient and fairer. we need systems that connect with countries. in other words , we countries. in other words, we need interoperability . and for need interoperability. and for this reason , at the imf, we are this reason, at the imf, we are working hard on the concept of a global cbdc platform aim to trade to and manage risks and yeah, so that's the head of the imf there. listen to this one as weir.— imf there. listen to this one as weii. inw— imf there. listen to this one as weii. iiw iasr— imf there. listen to this one as well. my last clip— imf there. listen to this one as well. my last clip for- ii q�*j'q�*ljie listen to this one as well. my last clip for you. ii ”r::; listen to this one as well. my last clip for you. this is rne— well. my last clip for you. this is rne rank— well. my last clip for you. this is the bank for— well. my last clip for you. this is the bank for international settlements— is the bank for international settlements .— is the bank for international settlements . listen, cash , we settlements. listen, cash, we een-r— settlements. listen, cash, we een-r knew,— settlements. listen, cash, we don't know, for— settlements. listen, cash, we don't know, for example, who is using— don't know, for example, who is using a— don't know, for example, who is using a rioo— don't know, for example, who is using a $100 bill— don't know, for example, who is using a $100 bill today. �*wai: using a $100 bill today. we een-r— using a $100 bill today. we een-r knew— using a $100 bill today. we don't know who— using a $100 bill today. we don't know who is- using a $100 bill today. we don't know who is using a $1,000 bill today . a key difference

bill today. a key difference with the cbdc is , is that with the cbdc is, is that central bank will have absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression of central bank liability . and also central bank liability. and also we will have the technology to enforce that . he's a huge red enforce that. he's a huge red flags— enforce that. he's a huge red flags re— enforce that. he's a huge red flags re ne— enforce that. he's a huge red flags to me. ben— f he's a huge red flags to me. ben habib , because flags to me. ben habib, because too flags to me. ben habib, because ree many— flags to me. ben habib, because ree nanw peepie— flags to me. ben habib, because too many people in— flags to me. ben habib, because too many people in unelected eeeies— too many people in unelected eeeies in— too many people in unelected bodies in lots— too many people in unelected bodies in lots of— too many people in unelected bodies in lots of cases have got a iirrie— bodies in lots of cases have got a iirrie iir— bodies in lots of cases have got a little bit too— bodies in lots of cases have got a little bit too happy and comfortable— a little bit too happy and comfortable with having power. ane— comfortable with having power. and wnen— comfortable with having power. and wnen i— comfortable with having power. and when i hear— comfortable with having power. and when i hear all about this, it's and when i hear all about this, re ene— and when i hear all about this, re rning— and when i hear all about this, it's one thing the— and when i hear all about this, it's one thing the bank of ingiane— it's one thing the bank of england doing— it's one thing the bank of england doing this, but that's not england doing this, but that's ner enewgn.— england doing this, but that's not enough. the— england doing this, but that's not enough. the imf saying it needs— not enough. the imf saying it needs-ee— not enough. the imf saying it needs be globalised later needs to all be globalised later on needs to all be globalised later en pea,— needs to all be globalised later en nee, were— needs to all be globalised later on 7:00, you're going to hear fren— on 7:00, you're going to hear rren wigei— on 7:00, you're going to hear from nigel farage. he's going to tell from nigel farage. he's going to reii rne— from nigel farage. he's going to reii rne srerw— from nigel farage. he's going to tell the story about people rrwing— tell the story about people rrwing re— tell the story about people rrwing re ner— tell the story about people trying to kick him out of the uk ranking— trying to kick him out of the uk panning swsren— trying to kick him out of the uk banking system when all of this is controlled— banking system when all of this is controlled and— banking system when all of this is controlled and all digital ane— is controlled and all digital and ir-s— is controlled and all digital and re air— is controlled and all digital and it's all programmable . so and it's all programmable. so peepie— and it's all programmable. so peepie wiri— and it's all programmable. so peepie wiii ee— and it's all programmable. so people will be able to dictate wner— people will be able to dictate wnar wea— people will be able to dictate wnar wen ean— people will be able to dictate what you can spend, you what you can spend, where you een-ir— what you can spend, where you can-it. there's- what you can spend, where you can _it. there's a - what you can spend, where you can it. there's a big can spend it. there's a big pieee— can spend it. there's a big pieee arrear— can spend it. there's a big piece about digital id all kind

of embedded— piece about digital id all kind of embedded this. this of embedded within this. this makes— of embedded within this. this. makes—uncomfortable makes me deeply uncomfortable and i— makes me deeply uncomfortable and i rer-eer— makes me deeply uncomfortable and i rer-eer ir— makes me deeply uncomfortable and i reject it. where are you on and i reject it. where are you en pp— and i reject it. where are you en ire — and i reject it. where are you en ire weir.— and i reject it. where are you on it? well, i'm— and i reject it. where are you on it? janice: : on it? well, i'm deeply uncomfortable with it as well. and just to, you know , emphasise and just to, you know, emphasise a couple of things that vicky said . this is the antithesis of said. this is the antithesis of bitcoin and cryptocurrency and crypto currency is a supreme mechanism by which to manage your own transactions outside any form of scrutiny . and it's any form of scrutiny. and it's completely decentralised and it's not even intermediated the use of cash deposits and so on is intermediated at the moment through banks. you can hold physical cash and i'm going to come back to that because physical cash is a use of cash that we can actually, you know , that we can actually, you know, liberates us. but this central bank digital currency is the ultimate in irregular related currency. every single currency unit will be registered in your name at the bank of england, and they will know precisely what you did with it.

they will know precisely what you did with it . and they can do you did with it. and they can do with that unit of currency, whatever they wish . so, for whatever they wish. so, for example, when i was when i was an mep, i was part of the economics committee and we interviewed christine lagarde before she took over as head of the ecb , and she gave a pretty the ecb, and she gave a pretty drab interview until we started talking about central bank digital currencies and her eyes lit up. does not surprise me and it lit up. does not surprise me and ir eeesn-r— lit up. does not surprise me and it doesn't surprise— e e e. does not surprise me and it doesn't surprise me. ' r: it doesn't surprise me. ben and as a brexiteer, you can imagine the kind of reaction that you know, engendered in me . but the know, engendered in me. but the reason her eyes lit up was because she knew that would allow the ecb to take interest rates into negative territory with cash. you can at least take it out of the bank and put it under your mattress. if you don't like what they're doing with the dec, lose complete with the dec, you lose complete control wealth . i control of your wealth. i suppose it's worth mentioning ane— suppose it's worth mentioning ane serr— suppose it's worth mentioning ane serr er— suppose it's worth mentioning and sort of recognising that aireaew— and sort of recognising that aireaew we— and sort of recognising that already we use— and sort of recognising that already we use digital currencies,— already we use digital currencies, they're just controlled _ currencies, they're just controlled by- currencies, they're just controlled by the international banking— controlled by the international banking sector— controlled by the international banking sector and private banks.— banking sector and private banks-li— banking sector and private banks..| mean,- banking sector and private banks. i mean, who do i trust banks. so i mean, who do i trust rneree— banks. so i mean, who do i trust ine— banks. so i mean, who do i trust more? the bank— banks. so i mean, who do i trust more? the bank of— banks. so i mean, who do i trust more? the bank of england or nareiawse— more? the bank of england or nareiawse we,— more? the bank of england or barclays? no, this— more? the bank of england or barclays? no, this is different.

in — barclays? no, this is different. i-n-agnesrie. - barclays? no, this is different. i'm _agnostic. this- barclays? no, this is different. i'm agnostic. " i'm fairly agnostic. this is not rnis— i'm fairly agnostic. this is not rnis is— i'm fairly agnostic. this is not rnis is se— i'm fairly agnostic. this is not this is so what we have is digitalised use a cash digitalised use of a cash system. this is a dec will be a registered unit of currency in the central bank . it'll have the central bank. it'll have your name on it. it's not like your name on it. it's not like you going and just using your credit card as a mechanism to expedite cash moving through the system. this is much. this is much more controlling. yeah and it's also a very confusing. so- it's also a very confusing. so wnen— it's also a very confusing. so wnen wea— it's also a very confusing. so when you look— it's also a very confusing. so when you look at— it's also a very confusing. so when you look at this consultation- when you look at this consultation which closes tomorrow on the bank of england, i tomorrow on the bank of england, i-geee— tomorrow on the bank of england, i-geee-ewen- i mean, good luck even understanding questions that understanding the questions that we— understanding the questions that rnew are— understanding the questions that rnew asking— understanding the questions that they are asking you. i would say it's they are asking you. i would say ir-s—eenrwsing- they are asking you. i would say it's—confusing ,- they are asking you. i would say it's—confusing , buti it's deliberately confusing, but arse— it's deliberately confusing, but aise wnen— it's deliberately confusing, but aise wnen i— it's deliberately confusing, but also when i hear— it's deliberately confusing, but also when i hear about, you knew,— also when i hear about, you know, we're talking about rriaiiing— know, we're talking about trialling things like universal easie— trialling things like universal basic income— trialling things like universal basic income ,_ trialling things like universal basic income , it— trialling things like universal basic income , it wouldn't basic income, it wouldn't surprise— basic income, it wouldn't surprise me— basic income, it wouldn't surprise me if— basic income, it wouldn't surprise me if you fast forward a rew— surprise me if you fast forward a few weas— surprise me if you fast forward a few years, you've got the sirwarien— a few years, you've got the situation where _ a few years, you've got the situation where you've got this gieeai— situation where you've got this global-currency- global digital currency controlled— global digital currency controlled don't even global digital currency- controlled-don't even know controlled by i don't even know wne— controlled by i don't even know wne rne— controlled by i don't even know who the world— controlled by i don't even know who the world economic forum, the who the world economic forum, rne-vew— who the world economic forum, rne-vew ean— who the world economic forum, the-you can pick- who the world economic forum, the you can pick your body the imf. you can pick your body ane— the imf. you can pick your body and rnen— the imf. you can pick your body and then we're— the imf. you can pick your body and then we're all— the imf. you can pick your body and then we're all allowed, all of and then we're all allowed, all er as— and then we're all allowed, all of us-scattered- and then we're all allowed, all of us-scattered a- and then we're all allowed, all of us scattered a few of us plebs get scattered a few eeins— of us plebs get scattered a few rnar— of us plebs get scattered a few coins that they— of us plebs get scattered a few coins that they decide where we spend— coins that they decide where we spene n,— coins that they decide where we can spend it, but— coins that they decide where we can spend it, but only if we're

geee— can spend it, but only if we're geee enewgn— can spend it, but only if we're good enough, because, of course, many— good enough, because, of course, many er— good enough, because, of course, many er as— good enough, because, of course, many er as wiri— good enough, because, of course, many of us will be— good enough, because, of course, many of us will be familiar with wnar— many of us will be familiar with wnar nappens— many of us will be familiar with wnar nappens in— many of us will be familiar with what happens in china when it re— what happens in china when it re rne— what happens in china when it comes to the credit comes to the social credit swsren — comes to the social credit system there _ comes to the social credit system there anyway , what system there anyway, what are wear—ire- system there anyway, what are wear—ire air- system there anyway, what are your—it? all you . your thoughts on it? all you nignr— your thoughts on it? all you nignr-ee— your thoughts on it? all you might be sitting there might even be sitting there going,— might even be sitting there geing-earrn- might even be sitting there geing-earrn is- might even be sitting there- going,-earth is michelle going, what on earth is michelle raking— going, what on earth is michelle raiking arrear— going, what on earth is michelle talking about now? you or talking about now? are you or are-rne— talking about now? are you or are-the other- talking about now? are you or are-the other side- talking about now? are you or are the other side the are you on the other side of the renee — are you on the other side of the fence - actually— are you on the other side of the fence - actually _that i fence that actually thinks that rnis— fence that actually thinks that rnis-wen— fence that actually thinks that rnis-wen eig— fence that actually thinks that this-very big red- fence that actually thinks that this very big red flag ? now this is a very big red flag? now rer-s— this is a very big red flag? now ier-s raw— this is a very big red flag? now let's talk rents— this is a very big red flag? now let's talk rents next. do you rnink— let's talk rents next. do you rnink rnar— let's talk rents next. do you think that there _ let's talk rents next. do you think that there should be caps, renr— think that there should be caps, rent controls?— think that there should be caps, rent controls? it— think that there should be caps, rent controls? it used to be a iaeewr— rent controls? it used to be a iapewr peiiew— rent controls? it used to be a labour policy for— rent controls? it used to be a labour policy for quite a while, but labour policy for quite a while, ear-reen— labour policy for quite a while, but-been rolled— labour policy for quite a while, but been rolled from. but it's been rolled back from. is but it's been rolled back from. is-rignr— but it's been rolled back from. is-right decision- is that the right decision

news. channel hello there. news. channel- . hello there. i'm news. channel— . hello there. i'm michelle. spanner— - hello there. i'm michelle. be hello there. i'm michelle. be with you - hello there. i'm michelle. be wirn wen unri— - hello there. i'm michelle. be with you until-tonight. - with you until 7:00 tonight. renner— with you until 7:00 tonight. former brexit— with you until 7:00 tonight. former brexit party mep and ceo of former brexit party mep and ceo er rirsr— former brexit party mep and ceo er rirsr erepenw— former brexit party mep and ceo of first property group, ben rapie— of first property group, ben naeie—asl habib is alongside me as a iewrnaiisr.— habib is alongside me as a journalist. political commentator , lots of commentator mike walker, lots of you commentator mike walker, lots of wen gerring — commentator mike walker, lots of wen gerring in— commentator mike walker, lots of you getting in touch about those two you getting in touch about those we repies— you getting in touch about those we repies rne— you getting in touch about those two topics, the migration sirwarien— two topics, the migration situation, what to do now that rwanda— situation, what to do now that rewanea nas— situation, what to do now that rwanda has basically failed in the rwanda has basically failed in rne eewrrse— rwanda has basically failed in rne eewrrse i— rwanda has basically failed in the courts? i would say just pwsn— the courts? i would say just pwsn aneae— the courts? i would say just push ahead anyway. don't worry

arrear— push ahead anyway. don't worry aeewr ir— push ahead anyway. don't worry about it. deal— push ahead anyway. don't worry about it. deal with— push ahead anyway. don't worry about it. deal with the consequences later. but i'm not in energe— consequences later. but i'm not in enarge er— consequences later. but i'm not in charge of this— consequences later. but i'm not in charge of this country. so i asking— in charge of this country. so i asking wea— in charge of this country. so i was asking you what do you think that was asking you what do you think rnar peepie— was asking you what do you think that people should— was asking you what do you think that people should do? we need to that people should do? we need re easr— that people should do? we need re rasr rraek— that people should do? we need to fast track to _ that people should do? we need to fast track to the _ that people should do? we need to fast track to the supreme eern— to fast track to the supreme eewrr .— to fast track to the supreme eewrr , saws— to fast track to the supreme court , says henry. to fast track to the supreme court , says henry . you know, court, says henry. you know, rnar— court, says henry. you know, rnar wiri— court, says henry. you know, rnar wiii ee— court, says henry. you know, that will be the— court, says henry. you know, that will be the next step of ane— that will be the next step of course. and i— that will be the next step of course. and i imagine that the gewernnenr— course. and i imagine that the government will— course. and i imagine that the government will take that step. wiek— government will take that step. we saws— government will take that step. we saws .— government will take that step. wien saws . we— government will take that step. nick says . we just have to nick says. we just have to aeeepr— nick says. we just have to aeeepr-we-we- nick says. we just have to accept we've lost control accept that we've lost control of accept that we've lost control er ew— accept that we've lost control er eewnrw. — accept that we've lost control of our country. it's the very sai— of our country. it's the very sad_britain,i of our country. it's the very. sad—britain, says sad day for great britain, says wiek. — sad day for great britain, says wiek. iers— sad day for great britain, says wiek. iers er— sad day for great britain, says nick. lots of people agreeing wirn— nick. lots of people agreeing wirn wen— nick. lots of people agreeing wirn your pen— nick. lots of people agreeing with you, ben, in— nick. lots of people agreeing with you, ben, in terms of, you knew,— with you, ben, in terms of, you knew, srepping— with you, ben, in terms of, you knew, srepping ir— with you, ben, in terms of, you know, stopping it happening in the know, stopping it happening in rne rirsr— know, stopping it happening in the first place— know, stopping it happening in the first place rather than rwing— the first place rather than rrwing re— the first place rather than rrwing re rear— the first place rather than trying to deal with it afterwards. - trying to deal with it afterwards. peter says close the readers— afterwards. peter says close the borders emergency borders under an emergency law and rew— borders under an emergency law and rrw ane— borders under an emergency law and try and deport— borders under an emergency law and try and deport everyone that has and try and deport everyone that nas arrived— and try and deport everyone that has arrived legally— and try and deport everyone that has arrived legally anyway. keep wear— has arrived legally anyway. keep wear rnewgnrs— has arrived legally anyway. keep your thoughts coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. let's talk renring— gbviews@gbnews.com. let's talk renring .— gbviews@gbnews.com. let's talk renring , snaii— gbviews@gbnews.com. let's talk renting , shall we?— gbviews@gbnews.com. let's talk renting , shall we? do you rent? renting, shall we? do you rent? are wea— renting, shall we? do you rent? are wen a— renting, shall we? do you rent? are you a landlord— renting, shall we? do you rent? are you a landlord ? ed average are you a landlord? ed average renr— are you a landlord? ed average renr in— are you a landlord? ed average renr in rne— are you a landlord? ed average rent in the uk— are you a landlord? ed average rent in the uk has— are you a landlord? ed average rent in the uk has risen now to eree— rent in the uk has risen now to were pewnis— rent in the uk has risen now to £1,213 pounds. i— rent in the uk has risen now to £1,213 pounds. i mean, these renrs— £1,213 pounds. i mean, these renrs ee— £1,213 pounds. i mean, these rents do seem— £1,213 pounds. i mean, these rents do seem to— £1,213 pounds. i mean, these rents do seem to be getting out of rents do seem to be getting out er eenrrei— rents do seem to be getting out of control now. _ rents do seem to be getting out of control now. often people newe— of control now. often people nawe rneir— of control now. often people have their rent— of control now. often people have their rent increase for no rear— have their rent increase for no

reai i— have their rent increase for no real reason. i would argue, erner— real reason. i would argue, erner rnan— real reason. i would argue, other than landlord greed. senerines— other than landlord greed. sometimes labour party for a wniie— sometimes labour party for a wniie nave— sometimes labour party for a while have been— sometimes labour party for a while have been saying that they weare— while have been saying that they wewie par— while have been saying that they wewie par renr— while have been saying that they would put rent caps in. that re— would put rent caps in. that re re— would put rent caps in. that seems to be rowed back on now. ragga,— seems to be rowed back on now. michael, thoughts? / seems to be rowed back on now. michael, thoughts? 3:3" janice: michael, thoughts? yeah. well i een-r— michael, thoughts? yeah. well i don't the party don't think the labour party frontbench ever actually committed controls . the committed to rent controls. the sort sadiq khan has been sort of sadiq khan has been calling has calling for it. andy burnham has been calling and now the been calling for it and now the labour frontbench or the labour shadow have we're shadow cabinet have said, we're not that. on not going to be doing that. on one agree the one level i do agree with the labour party of leadership labour party sort of leadership on is that the real on this, which is that the real problem the housing is problem to the housing crisis is going on the supply side. going to be on the supply side. and real mistake and i think the real mistake that made in this country was that we made in this country was we stopped council we stopped building council homes. the 1980s homes. so not only in the 1980s did margaret thatcher start selling homes, selling off council homes, but she banned councils from reinvesting that money in new council i think we council homes. and i think if we had building homes had been building council homes at did in the at the rate we did in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s and 90s and the 70s and the 80s and 90s and 2010s, we wouldn't have the problem in at the moment. problem we are in at the moment. at same i think the at the same time, i think the labour a problem labour party have a problem because you're just because obviously if you're just looking it's looking at the supply side, it's going take a while to going to take quite a while to build houses that build all those houses that would rents would naturally bring down rents and short term and we do have a short term crisis. i've come on this crisis. so i've come on this show before complained

show before and complained that last rent last summer i got a rent increase of 15. just last week i got another rent increase of 12.5. so over two years, that's a 30% rent increase. now, obviously, the house hasn't changed. the house didn't get 30% all am doing is 30% bigger. all i am doing is giving a bigger chunk of my income to a landlord who hasn't improved the service. now i think you do have a massive problem so don't problem in this, so why don't you somewhere why you go live somewhere else? why don't live somewhere don't i go live somewhere else? well, quite well, for one, i quite like living in the community where i do. but two, if i live somewhere else, also going to be else, that's also going to be rather expensive, it's rather expensive, right? so it's not i live not that i live in a particularly expensive flat. it's flat in east it's an ex—council flat in east london. a mansion london. it's not a mansion right 7 london. it's not a mansion right ? out london, ? so i could move out of london, but job's in london, my but my job's in london, my friends in london. it's not friends are in london. it's not something to something i particularly want to do. think that do as a do. i also think that we do as a society, we've more and society, if we've got more and more the more people living in the private sector, which we private rental sector, which we do, start offering do, we need to start offering people which they can people a way by which they can have quality of life have a decent quality of life in that sector and decent quality that sector and a decent quality of some ability to of life requires some ability to plan the future. it's plan into the future. now it's very difficult for me or many other people. i mean, i'm obviously the worst affected obviously not the worst affected here. if you're a parent

here. if you if you're a parent with children, this a much with children, this is a much more problem you more severe problem for you. you might move kid out might have to move your kid out of because your rent of a school because your rent goes so if we are going to goes up. so if we are going to have a situation where there aren't homes aren't enough council homes for people on people where people can't get on the what we the property ladder, what we have is make private have to do is make private renting tolerable. and the only way that to give way to do that is to give stability and security to private renters, which will require to some of require to some degree of at least stabilisation. yeah, least rent stabilisation. yeah, ben, to say, i do feel ben, i've got to say, i do feel rnar— ben, i've got to say, i do feel rnar-in— ben, i've got to say, i do feel that-in-countryl ben, i've got to say, i do feeli that-in-country is that housing in this country is weren— that housing in this country is been. i— that housing in this country is been. i ee— that housing in this country is broken. i do believe that the priware— broken. i do believe that the private rental— broken. i do believe that the private rental sector has a pieee— private rental sector has a piaee ane— private rental sector has a place and has— private rental sector has a place and has a- private rental sector has a place and has a part to play. ear— place and has a part to play. ear i— place and has a part to play. ear i arse— place and has a part to play. but i also do— place and has a part to play. but i also do worry that there are some landlords out there . are some landlords out there. inew-re— are some landlords out there. inew-re iasr— are some landlords out there. they're just not— are some landlords out there. they're just not all landlords . they're just not all landlords. inere— they're just not all landlords. inere are— they're just not all landlords. there are some— they're just not all landlords. there are some good landlords. in— there are some good landlords. i-n ner— there are some good landlords. i'm not demonising landlords, rnar— i'm not demonising landlords, rnar is— i'm not demonising landlords, rnar is rer— i'm not demonising landlords, that is for sure. _ i'm not demonising landlords, that is for sure. but there are eerrainiw— that is for sure. but there are certainly some.— that is for sure. but there are certainly some. don't certainly some. they don't inwesr— certainly some. they don't invest properties invest in their properties. ineir— invest in their properties. their properties are ramshackled at their properties are ramshackled ar-rnew— their properties are ramshackled ar-rnew ee— their properties are ramshackled ar-rnew ee iasr- at best, and they do just infrare— at best, and they do just inflate their— at best, and they do just inflate their rents for no real reason other— inflate their rents for no real reason other than can. and reason other than they can. and yes,— reason other than they can. and yes—save— reason other than they can. and wee—saw ear- reason other than they can. and wee—saw ear nang| reason other than they can. and yes michelle. say, but hang reason other than they can. and yes michelle. mortgages hang reason other than they can. and yes michelle. mortgages have| on, michelle. mortgages have gene— on, michelle. mortgages have gene up.— on, michelle. mortgages have gene wp. wes— on, michelle. mortgages have gone up. yes, they have. if wee— gone up. yes, they have. if you've reached— gone up. yes, they have. if you've reached the end your you've reached the end of your preewers. — you've reached the end of your products. .we're_ you've reached the end of your products. we're seeing loads products. but we're seeing loads of products. but we're seeing loads er—ianeieres- products. but we're seeing loads of landlords putting of examples of landlords putting rent of examples of landlords putting renrliwsr—

of examples of landlords putting rent-just because— of examples of landlords putting rent just because they rent up just because they can, ner— rent up just because they can, ner-rneir— rent up just because they can, not-their products. not because their products enange. — not because their products change. .well,- not because their products change. .well, i- not because their products change. " not because their products- change. .well, i mean, the change. and well, i mean, the best to keep rents as low as best way to keep rents as low as possible is, as mike suggested, which to increase the supply which is to increase the supply of into the market, of property into the market, particularly in this case into the private rented sector. and for that there should be funding made available, available to developers , not to buyers, which developers, not to buyers, which has been tory policy for the last 13 years to make funding available rather than available to buyers rather than to developers. there should be a relaxation planning relaxation of planning restraints and conditions. it's been an ever more increasingly bureaucrat btec and expensive process to get planning permission that should be reined right back that you can right back so that you can expedite the creation of these of these new homes. and there's also been a, i'm afraid, completely under joined up thinking from government. so they've wanted an efficient pr system , private rented sector, system, private rented sector, but they've taxed landlords if you own a second home, you pay an extra 3% stamp they an extra 3% stamp duty. they remove the ability to relieve costs against income. so you you be able to offset your interest . yeah, your interest and the

cost of management of the property. so they've actually government stepped have been against renting even though they've ostensibly been championing the sector and we haven't built enough homes in this country. that's an absolute fact. but we've also had if i may say so, back to the immigration problem. pretty rampant immigration over the last ten years. our population as a country has gone from 62 million to 68 million plus in ten years, which is nearly 10. a massive increase in population for the united kingdom. that's six cities the size of manchester where, you know, we can't cope with this. and to your point, actually,- can't cope with this. and to your point, actually, i- er?" e f and to your point, actually, i think you— your point, actually, i think wew aise— your point, actually, i think wew an— your point, actually, i think you raise an interesting one ieease— you raise an interesting one because there— you raise an interesting one because there are companies now rnar— because there are companies now rnar are— because there are companies now rnar geing— because there are companies now that are going-that- because there are companies now that are going that are that are going out that are going— that are going out that are geing-ane- that are going out that are going and cities that are going out that are. going-and cities that going to towns and cities that are going to towns and cities thati are—sawing are holding events and saying to ianeieres—wei landlords, right, come here. we wiri— landlords, right, come here. we wiii paw— landlords, right, come here. we wiii paw-renrs— landlords, right, come here. we wiii paw-renrs .— landlords, right, come here. we will pay rents . we'll give will pay high rents. we'll give you— will pay high rents. we'll give wen i— will pay high rents. we'll give wen i rnink— will pay high rents. we'll give you i think it's— will pay high rents. we'll give you i think it's about a five wear— you i think it's about a five wear rein.— you i think it's about a five year term. we'll— you i think it's about a five year term. we'll take care of all maintenance,— year term. we'll take care of all maintenance, etcetera . so all maintenance, etcetera. so rnew-re— all maintenance, etcetera. so rnew-re raking— all maintenance, etcetera. so they're taking those properties off they're taking those properties err rne — they're taking those properties off the market— they're taking those properties off the market to _ they're taking those properties off the market to accommodate rnese— off the market to accommodate rnese aswiwn — off the market to accommodate these asylum seekers, which is of these asylum seekers, which is er-naking— these asylum seekers, which is of-making that- these asylum seekers, which is of making that situation of course making that situation . wean.— of course making that situation worse . yeah, i— of course making that situation worse . yeah, i would- of course making that situation

worse . 4:5?" : of course making that situation worse . 4:1? " worse. yeah, i would sort of i'm not sure how big an influence that is. now, obviously nigrarien— that is. now, obviously migration and- now, obviously migration and when you have net nigrarien— migration and when you have net nigrarien iike— migration and when you have net migration like we— migration and when you have net migration like we did last year, rnar— migration like we did last year, rnar is— migration like we did last year, rnar is geing— migration like we did last year, rnar is geing re— migration like we did last year, that is going to put pressure on renrs— that is going to put pressure on enrs-i— that is going to put pressure on enrs-i rnink— that is going to put pressure on rents. i think saying, oh, rents. but i think saying, oh, so rents. but i think saying, oh, se-preeien— rents. but i think saying, oh, so problem migration, so the problem is migration, rer-s— so the problem is migration, ier-s—preeaeiw- so the problem is migration, let's probably the let's lower it is probably the wreng—rnerel let's lower it is probably thei wrong—there are wrong response. so there are new— wrong response. so there arel nanw—re many benefits to migration to the many benefits to migration to rne—wneie- many benefits to migration to rne—wneie. wei many benefits to migration to. the _whole. we as many benefits to migration to- the_whole. we as a the economy as a whole. we as a seeierw— the economy as a whole. we as a seeierw-re— the economy as a whole. we as a society-to build— the economy as a whole. we as a society-to build .— the economy as a whole. we as a society-to build . no,- the economy as a whole. we as a society to build . no, i'm society used to build. no, i'm raiking— society used to build. no, i'm talking about— society used to build. no, i'm talking about i'm— society used to build. no, i'm talking about i'm talking about eepaies— talking about i'm talking about companies like— talking about i'm talking about companies like serco. "r:;”r:; companies like serco. there's rears— companies like serco. there's rears er— companies like serco. there's rears er-are- companies like serco. there's loads of are taking loads of them that are taking properties off the market, private properties off private rental properties off the at very good rates. the market at very good rates. landlords are just basically going , oh, landlords are just basically going, oh, you landlords are just basically going , oh, you know what, great going, oh, you know what, great rate there. take it. rate there. i'll take it. maintenance sorted , five year maintenance sorted, five year deal done. so that is taking that's the creation of vested interests out of a failed border control. so interests out of a failed border control . so i mean houses are control. so i mean houses are being— control. so i mean houses are being raken— control. so i mean houses are being taken off— control. so i mean houses are being taken off the— so i mean houses are being taken off the private renrai— being taken off the private rental sector— being taken off the private rental sector market for many reasons. i mean,— rental sector market for many reasons. i mean, over the past 40 reasons. i mean, over the past ere-nrs— reasons. i mean, over the past eo-ierslpeepie- reasons. i mean, over the past 40 lots people have 40 years, lots of people have wanree— 40 years, lots of people have wanree-re- 40 years, lots of people have wanted to london, for wanted to move to london, for exampie— wanted to move to london, for exampie-er— wanted to move to london, for. exanpie-er-re example, because of changes to the example, because of changes to rne-swsren.- the economic system. now nigrarien— the economic system. now nigraienlwes— the economic system. now migration yes. cause migration, yes. will cause presswreenl— migration, yes. will cause pressure on housing. there pressure on on housing. there are pressure on on housing. there aeresenses-p— pressure on on housing. there are-responses to- pressure on on housing. there are responses to okay, are two responses to say, okay, rer-s— are two responses to say, okay, ier-s srep— are two responses to say, okay, let's stop migration. the other respense-saw,— let's stop migration. the other response say, let's build response is to say, let's build mere—ir- response is to say, let's build mere—if we- response is to say, let's buildj more _if we want response is to say, let's build. more—if we want is more housing now if we want is if wnar— more housing now if we want is if wnar we— more housing now if we want is

if what we want.— more housing now if we want is if what we want. so we'll do a bit if what we want. so we'll do a er er— if what we want. so we'll do a er er eern. — if what we want. so we'll do a bit of both. well,— if what we want. so we'll do a bit of both. well, 1— if what we want. so we'll do a bit of both. well, i think if wnar— bit of both. well, i think if wnar we— bit of both. well, i think if what we want— bit of both. well, i think if what we want is a is a presperews— what we want is a is a prosperous society which is ewnanie,— prosperous society which is dynamic, growth dynamic, which has growth sectors,-can- dynamic, which has growth sectors, can compete with sectors, which can compete with iwrepe— sectors, which can compete with iwrepe ane— sectors, which can compete with europe and america , china, europe and america, china, prepapiw— europe and america, china, probably sensible europe and america, china,- probably-sensible thing probably the more sensible thing to probably the more sensible thing re re— probably the more sensible thing re ie is— probably the more sensible thing re ie is save— probably the more sensible thing to do is say, let's— probably the more sensible thing to do is say, let's supercharge housebuilding_ to do is say, let's supercharge housebuilding-of- to do is say, let's supercharge housebuilding of saying, housebuilding instead of saying, rer-s— housebuilding instead of saying, ier-s—peepie- housebuilding instead of saying, let's—people out. housebuilding instead of saying, let's people out of let's try and keep people out of our let's try and keep people out of ewan-e— let's try and keep people out of ewan-e rer-s— let's try and keep people out of our- and let's try- let's try and keep people out of our and let's try and our country and let's try and keep—er- our country and let's try and keep—ofibigl keep people out of our big eiries— keep people out of our big cities-that— keep people out of our big cities-that rent- keep people out of our big cities that rent doesn't go cities so that rent doesn't go up- _ cities so that rent doesn't go up. nar— cities so that rent doesn't go up. nar rnen— cities so that rent doesn't go up. but then one- cities so that rent doesn't go up. but then one of- cities so that rent doesn't go up. but then one of the challenges is, of course you get nimbys, all and nimbys, then it's all well and good supercharge good saying, let's supercharge all building, but all of these house building, but we've mandatory we've got no mandatory housebuilding this housebuilding targets in this country. if you country. that's a mistake if you ask and also very ask me. and also it's very easy to these isn't it? to object these days, isn't it? if want something if you don't want something being at the end of being knocked up at the end of your road. and good luck if you're to expand own you're trying to expand your own property, because property, by the way, because planning be an planning even on that can be an absolute where absolute nightmare. where do you stand it all? today's bonkers stand on it all? today's bonkers story of the day, up next. schoolgirls sexually assaulted gender neutral toilets in schools . what is going .

on hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you until 7:00 tonight alongside me, former brexit party mep, ceo of first property group, ben habib , and property group, ben habib, and the journalist and political commentator michael walker. dave sorry, charles. talking about cash , saying do shops have the cash, saying do shops have the legal right to refuse cash ? legal right to refuse cash? well, i think obviously they do because many shops now you see the pictures on the signs , don't the pictures on the signs, don't you, on the door saying cash plus, which i is plus, which i think is inappropriate . but lewis says , i inappropriate. but lewis says, i do not believe in a cashless society, but something has to be done about the black economy. the cash hand goings on in the cash in hand goings on in this country, he says, are rife. john, you're saying? absolutely. central bank digital currencies would put far too much power in the hands of so—called the elites. and one else on twitter say, michel, why don't you point out that these central bank currencies can be programmed? yes, you're absolutely right. honestly, horrifies this honestly, it horrifies me. this whole kind towards

whole kind of move towards control . nana thank you very control. nana thank you very much. anyway, school in essex much. anyway, a school in essex has had to call in the police after allegations that female pupils sexually assaulted pupils were sexually assaulted in its gender neutral toilets. i got to ask, why have i even got gender neutral toilets in schools in the first place? benhabib well, i mean, i, i was struggling when i read general neutral. gender neutral is mike knews— neutral. gender neutral is mike knowslwas_ gender neutral is mike knows was struggling with what knows i was struggling with what that knows i was struggling with what war-.— knows i was struggling with what rnar-. i— knows i was struggling with what rnar-. i mean— knows i was struggling with what that-. i mean, do- knows i was struggling with what that . i mean, do you have that meant. i mean, do you have to that meant. i mean, do you have re—eeing- that meant. i mean, do you have re—eeing er- to self—identify as being of newrrai— to self—identify as being of neutral-order- to self—identify as being of. neutral-orderlgo neutral gender in order to go inre— neutral gender in order to go inre-er— neutral gender in order to go inre-er-ir- neutral gender in order to go into-or-it meanj into this loo or does it mean any— into this loo or does it mean anwean-— into this loo or does it mean anwean- ge- into this loo or does it mean any-can go into- into this loo or does it mean any can go into the into this loo or does it mean- any-can go into the loo? any gender can go into the loo? neeaase— any gender can go into the loo? neeaase rne— any gender can go into the loo? because the third _ any gender can go into the loo? because the third category- any gender can go into the loo? because the third category isn't it? because the third category isn't h? dont because the third category isn't it? don't to in it? if you don't want to go in the boys, you want to go in, the girls, whatever, that one. girls, whatever, go in that one. yeah. so my point is there yeah. so my point is that there are—snewie- yeah. so my point is that there are—should bei yeah. so my point is that there are|sets_should bei yeah. so my point is that there are sets of should be yeah. so my point is that there are sets of loos should be yeah. so my point is that there are sets of loos and.1ould be yeah. so my point is that there are sets of loos and. andi be yeah. so my point is that there are sets of loos and. and why two sets of loos and. and why paire— two sets of loos and. and why eniielrnire— two sets of loos and. and why build lthird set— two sets of loos and. and why build third set which just build a third set which just ares— build a third set which just ares re— build a third set which just adds to .cost- build a third set which just adds to cost burden apart adds to the cost burden apart fren— adds to the cost burden apart rren-eise- adds to the cost burden apart from _else of- adds to the cost burden apart from _else of the - from anything else of the infrastructure _ from anything else of the infrastructure of the school. wnen— infrastructure of the school. wnen-a— infrastructure of the school. when-a child,- infrastructure of the school. when a child, we had boys when i was a child, we had boys ane— when i was a child, we had boys and-gins— when i was a child, we had boys ene-gins ane— when i was a child, we had boys and-girls and i- when i was a child, we had boys and girls and i think and we had girls and i think rnar-s— and we had girls and i think that's simple— and we had girls and i think that's simple enough. everyone ge— that's simple enough. everyone ge re— that's simple enough. everyone ge re rne— that's simple enough. everyone can go to the loo— that's simple enough. everyone can go to the loo quite comfortably. - can go to the loo quite comfortably. no one's going to be comfortably. no one's going to ire-ear. — comfortably. no one's going to ire-ear. we— comfortably. no one's going to be-out. we should- comfortably. no one's going to be out. we should just go be put out. we should just go eaen— be put out. we should just go back-common- be put out. we should just go back. common boys be put out. we should just go. back.-common-boys , be put out. we should just go- back.-common-boys , go back. use common sense boys, go to back. use common sense boys, go re-iees— back. use common sense boys, go re-iees ane— back. use common sense boys, go to-loos and girls— back. use common sense boys, go to-loos and girls go- back. use common sense boys, go to loos and girls go to to boys, loos and girls go to gins— to boys, loos and girls go to

giris iees. — to boys, loos and girls go to girls loos. _think. to boys, loos and girls go to| girls loos. _think it's to boys, loos and girls go to. girls loos. _think it's a girls loos. i don't think it's a closely guarded secret, but we've neutral toilets we've got gender neutral toilets here for space reasons. i absolutely hate it. no offence to you men. i do not want to share a toilet with you and nor do i want to share one with you. if you don't mind me saying so. eeee. — if you don't mind me saying so. eeee. were— if you don't mind me saying so. good. we're agreed.- if you don't mind me saying so. good. d if you don't mind me saying so. good. eg good. we're agreed. what do you make to it all? i mean, i think wew— make to it all? i mean, i think wear prererenee— make to it all? i mean, i think your preference is— e 7 i mean, i think your preference is perfectly rain— your preference is perfectly fair enough. _ your preference is perfectly fair enough. i— your preference is perfectly fair enough. " your preference is perfectly fair enough. : g fair enough. i mean, reading this story, i think there is a danger this into danger that we insert this into a political fight or a sort of political fight or a culture war when it comes to trans issues. because as far as i tell, this a school i can tell, this is a school that had toilets, had that had men's toilets, had female and this gender female toilets, and this gender neutral toilet had been there forever as well. so i think they probably it unisex. probably used to call it unisex. it sort of an open part of it was sort of an open part of the school where you have some cubicles which are not gendered. so danger so i think there is a danger here that sort of every small story happens in a story that happens in a school somewhere country of somewhere in the country sort of brought this big culture brought into this big culture war of course, war issue. but of course, no, i think there is place for male think there is a place for male and female toilets and probably most should have most schools should have them. i think if a school

think it's also fine if a school wants to have neutral wants to have gender neutral toilets, you have toilets, but why would you have gender? what motivate you gender? what would motivate you to gender? what would motivate you re-rnire— gender? what would motivate you re-rnire earegerw— gender? what would motivate you to _third category when - to have a third category when weae— to have a third category when weawe—gins- to have a third category wheni weawe—gins wnw you've got boys and girls, why weare— you've got boys and girls, why wearer-rer— you've got boys and girls, why wearer-rer a— you've got boys and girls, why would-for a third- would you go for a third earegerwe— would you go for a third category?-are- would you go for a third category? are you what would you go for a third- category?-are you what are category? what are you what are you category? what are you what are wea-re— category? what are you what are wea-re ee— category? what are you what are you-to do there? - category? what are you what are you to do there? e you trying to do there? so it nignr— you trying to do there? so it nignr re— you trying to do there? so it nignr re rne— you trying to do there? so it might be the case like here that they wanted one they wanted toilets in one part of the school there wasn't of the school and there wasn't space a well, then they space to have a well, then they haven't got a women's. they haven't got a women's. they haven't and haven't got a women's. they haven't-and girls. haven't got a women's. they- haven't-and girls here. haven't got boys and girls here. inew-we— haven't got boys and girls here. inew-we iasr— haven't got boys and girls here. inew-we iasr as— haven't got boys and girls here. they've just as well— haven't got boys and girls here. they've just as well there. - they've just as well there. we're adults here. not it's we're adults here. it's not it's a different isn't it. a little bit different isn't it. yeah. also i mean if yeah. well i mean also i mean if we-re— yeah. well i mean also i mean if we-re nake— yeah. well i mean also i mean if we-to make this— yeah. well i mean also i mean if we to make this about. we have to make this about. but i'm we have to make this about. but inn-i— we have to make this about. but inn-i iasr— we have to make this about. but inn-i iasr warr— we have to make this about. but i'm .i just want to _ i'm just i just want to understand the mindset. yeah, well, so you well, i mean, we are. so you said you were or when said when you were young or when you there were you were in school, there were just boys and girls. now, you might have heard people say might also have heard people say when they school, there might also have heard people say whe boysy school, there might also have heard people say whe boysy girls school, there might also have heard people say whe boysy girls scho girls ere was boys like girls and girls like boys. obviously we society changes our understanding of people just we people changes. so just as we understood sort of last understood in the sort of last couple that of couple of decades that lots of people and when people will be gay, and when that acceptable, that became socially acceptable, lots came out gay. lots of people came out as gay. you have situation where you have a situation now where we have a greater understanding that are trans and that some people are trans and more as more people are coming out as trans having gender trans and having a gender neutral a school is neutral toilet in a school is probably are two probably a way. but they are two

iirrerenr— probably a way. but they are two different-though,- probably a way. but they are two different-though, aren't. different things, though, aren't rnewe—erren- different things, though, aren't they? often conflate they? and people often conflate they? and people often conflate rne-sexaaiirw- they? and people often conflate the - sexuality and - the two about sexuality and rrans— the two about sexuality and. rrans—gaw, trans issues. so if you're gay, wne— trans issues. so if you're gay, wne-eneese— trans issues. so if you're gay, who-choose to - trans issues. so if you're gay, who choose to associate who you choose to associate wearseir— who you choose to associate yourself with _ who you choose to associate yourself with your adult time yourself with in your adult time 7 yourself with in your adult time e in— yourself with in your adult time ? i'm conscious— yourself with in your adult time ? i'm conscious-tea- ? i'm conscious that it's tea ame,— ? i'm conscious that it's tea rime-peng- ? i'm conscious that it's tea time, being careful with time, so i'm being careful with my time, so i'm being careful with nw weres— time, so i'm being careful with nw weres ear— time, so i'm being careful with my words. but who you choose to asseeiare— my words. but who you choose to associate _with - my words. but who you choose to associate _with is - associate yourself with is neieew— associate yourself with is nobody else's business. when you rnen—aii- then start talking about all rnar— then start talking about all rnar-wanrs- then start talking about all that-wants to. that boy, there wants to be a gin— that boy, there wants to be a giri—srarr- that boy, there wants to be a. girl—start putting girl and then you start putting rnen — girl and then you start putting rnen lrnis— girl and then you start putting them .this route _ girl and then you start putting them this route of hormone them on this route of hormone rnerapw— them on this route of hormone rnerapw .— them on this route of hormone rnerapw . wea— them on this route of hormone therapy . you start— them on this route of hormone therapy . you start what i would therapy. you start what i would earr— therapy. you start what i would call mutilating_ therapy. you start what i would call mutilating bodies, binding enesrs— call mutilating bodies, binding enesrs .— call mutilating bodies, binding chests , having— call mutilating bodies, binding chests , having physical chests, having physical sarenesg— chests, having physical surgeries, perhaps impacting a eniie-s— surgeries, perhaps impacting a child's fertility,— surgeries, perhaps impacting a child's fertility, impacting rneir— child's fertility, impacting their ability— child's fertility, impacting their ability in other area was rnew— their ability in other area was rnew are— their ability in other area was rnew rwe— their ability in other area was they are two very, very different _ they are two very, very different things. it's not the same as you saying, oh, well, rner— same as you saying, oh, well, rnar pese— same as you saying, oh, well, that person there— same as you saying, oh, well, that person there is attracted to that person there is attracted re a— that person there is attracted re a new— that person there is attracted re a new er— that person there is attracted re a pew er a— that person there is attracted to a boy or a girl,— that person there is attracted to a boy or a girl, whatever. i rne— to a boy or a girl, whatever. i mean, the implication is are different. yeah, i think how we respene— different. yeah, i think how we respene as— different. yeah, i think how we respene as a— different. yeah, i think how we respond as a society— r: 77:0": yeah, i think how we respond as a society to trans peepie— respond as a society to trans peepie-peepie,- respond as a society to trans peepie-peepie, irl respond as a society to trans people people, it poses people and gay people, it poses iirrerenr— people and gay people, it poses different-but- different questions. but the reason _they're- different questions. but the reason they're very reason i think they're very siniiar—i- reason i think they're very similar—i think| reason i think they're very- similar—i think that similar is because i think that the similar is because i think that rne-rnen— similar is because i think that rne-rnen are- similar is because i think that the them are quite the roots of them are quite siniiar. — the roots of them are quite siniiar. se— the roots of them are quite similar. so i— the roots of them are quite similar. so i think i was born gay-— similar. so i think i was born gav- 1— similar. so i think i was born gaw. i rnink— similar. so i think i was born gay. i think trans— similar. so i think i was born gay. i think trans people were eern— gay. i think trans people were iern rrans — gay. i think trans people were born trans. ithink— gay. i think trans people were born trans. think i'm sort of born trans. i think i'm sort of i born trans. i think i'm sort of i-reeegnise— born trans. i think i'm sort of i recognise myself gay i can recognise myself as gay eeaase— i can recognise myself as gay. ieeaase—re because society is welcoming to gay because society is welcoming to gaw—rnink- because society is welcoming to

gaw—rnink rransl gay people and i think trans peepie— gay people and i think trans peepie-new— gay people and i think trans people now through people are now going through a sinner— people are now going through a similar-think— people are now going through a similar-think-to- similar thing. i think just to wing— similar thing. i think just to iring as— similar thing. i think just to bring us back— similar thing. i think just to bring us back to this, though, rnis— bring us back to this, though, rnis-rnis— bring us back to this, though, this-this story— bring us back to this, though, this this story which seems this this this story which seems ine— this this this story which seems iike—inl like someone was abused in a seneei,— like someone was abused in a school,-nothing- like someone was abused in a school,-nothing to- like someone was abused in a school, nothing to do school, had nothing to do with anwene— school, had nothing to do with anwene-was— school, had nothing to do with anyone-was-the. school, had nothing to do with. anyone-was-the reason anyone who was trans. the reason rnese—rnee i those unisex toilets were there was—er— those unisex toilets were there was—er r i those unisex toilets were there. was—of trans. well, was not because of trans. well, rm — was not because of trans. well, .-m absolutely— was not because of trans. well, i'm absolutely gutted that i'm almost i've almost out of time because i've not to cover that not had a chance to cover that ludicrous story. have you seen that? the thing interview that? the thing the interview with struggling with the mum, the struggling mum, talks about the mum, when it talks about the bills not mum, it's bills and it's not a mum, it's a man a skirt saying it's a mum man in a skirt saying it's a mum and just seems to think and everyone just seems to think that's absolutely fine. i do. i think that this is going think that this world is going mad is perhaps a debate mad and that is perhaps a debate for because for a different day because i suspect you might disagree with me. michael, that me. but ben michael, that is all we've tonight . we've got time for tonight. guys. do go anywhere. nigel guys. do not go anywhere. nigel farage next. you know, you farage is up next. you know, you won't believe it when you hear his story about what the banks are trying do him trying are trying to do with him trying to rid of his accounts. to get rid of his bank accounts. he's you all of he's going to tell you all of that information a couple of that information in a couple of seconds. so don't go anywhere . seconds. so don't go anywhere. hello there. welcome to your gb news— hello there. welcome to your gb news weather— hello there. welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met— news weather forecast from the met- rm — news weather forecast from the met- i'm _snell. - met office. i'm craig snell. w...— met office. i'm craig snell. were—to- met office. i'm craig snell. we're _to next we're looking ahead to the next few-ms— we're looking ahead to the next few-n-s-to- we're looking ahead to the next few-it's-to remain. few days. it's going to remain pretty— few days. it's going to remain pretty changeable. rain, pretty changeable. some rain, also—but- pretty changeable. some rain,

also—but forl also some showers. but for northern— also some showers. but for northern areas,— also some showers. but for northern areas, it turns increasingly— northern areas, it turns increasingly windy and that's all increasingly windy and that's alt-this— increasingly windy and that's au-tms-towl all down to this area of low pressure se— all down to this area of low pressure. so .we - all down to this area of low pressure. so we through pressure. so as we go through the— pressure. so as we go through she-eers— pressure. so as we go through she-eeys rhes- pressure. so as we go through the days, that will the next few days, that will edge — the next few days, that will edge is— the next few days, that will edge rrs wav— the next few days, that will edge its way closer towards the gr, — edge its way closer towards the uk,-p.gg...g_ edge its way closer towards the uk, pressure always uk, but high pressure always dese— uk, but high pressure always dose—se- uk, but high pressure always close _so here. uk, but high pressure always- close _so here more close to the south. so here more in close to the south. so here more r._wggg.g.,- close to the south. so here more in _weather, theni in the way of dry weather, then wer— in the way of dry weather, then wet weather— in the way of dry weather, then wet weather compared to the nerds.— wet weather compared to the nerds. se— wet weather compared to the nerds. so es— wet weather compared to the north. so as.end- wet weather compared to the north. so as end thursday, north. so as we end thursday, for north. so as we end thursday, rer reest— north. so as we end thursday, for most or— north. so as we end thursday, for most of us,— north. so as we end thursday, for most of us, we— north. so as we end thursday, for most of us, we end on a eddy— for most of us, we end on a daddy deer— for most of us, we end on a fairly clear and— for most of us, we end on a fairly clear and dry note. but as fairly clear and dry note. but ds-drde— fairly clear and dry note. but as-into friday,- fairly clear and dry note. but as into friday, we as we go into friday, we start to as we go into friday, we start gg_gg.g- as we go into friday, we start re—dedd ded- to see thicker cloud and outbreaks— to see thicker cloud and outbreaks spread its to see thicker cloud and- outbreaks-spread its way to see thicker cloud and- outbmany-spread its way to see thicker cloud and outbmany westernpread its way to see thicker cloud and outbmany western districts way to see thicker cloud and outbmany western districts of |y into many western districts of the into many western districts of de eedrdry. — into many western districts of the country. but— into many western districts of the country. but for most it's going— the country. but for most it's gedrsg re— the country. but for most it's gedrsg re se— the country. but for most it's gedrsg do be e— the country. but for most it's going to be a fairly mild night, maybe— going to be a fairly mild night, maybe d— going to be a fairly mild night, maybe a little— going to be a fairly mild night, maybe a little bit— going to be a fairly mild night, maybe a little bit fresher than reeerrdy. — maybe a little bit fresher than reeerrdy. edd— maybe a little bit fresher than recently. but for— maybe a little bit fresher than recently. but for many temperatures, staying in double figures.— temperatures, staying in double figures-stee— temperatures, staying in double figures-start off- temperatures, staying in double figures. start off friday figures. so we start off friday wide— figures. so we start off friday wide seme— figures. so we start off friday with some sunshine across many seeded— with some sunshine across many eerdrd ded— with some sunshine across many central and eastern— with some sunshine across many central and eastern of the central and eastern parts of the country.— central and eastern parts of the eedrdry. edd— central and eastern parts of the country. but the _ central and eastern parts of the country. but the cloud rain country. but the cloud and rain across—spread- country. but the cloud and rain across—spread its| across the west will spread its way— across the west will spread its wry—we - across the west will spread its wry—we gs - across the west will spread its. wry—we ge dredge across the west will spread its waycourse we go through across the west will spread its waycourse of we go through across the west will spread its waycourse of the we go through across the west will spread its waycourse of the day. 10 through across the west will spread its waycourse of the day. may'ough across the west will spread its waycourse of the day. may hang the course of the day. may hang on the course of the day. may hang err-brightness- the course of the day. may hangi on-brightness-good on to some brightness for a good drunk— on to some brightness for a good chunk-day— on to some brightness for a good drunk-deg rer— on to some brightness for a good chunk-day for east- on to some brightness for a good chunk day for east anglia chunk of the day for east anglia and southeast— chunk of the day for east anglia and southeast england. so where this and southeast england. so where dds-deser— and southeast england. so where this-occur,.will_ and southeast england. so where this-occur,.will still- this does occur, it will still reed—edd- this does occur, it will still- feel_ but elsewhere feel pretty warm. but elsewhere , maybe— feel pretty warm. but elsewhere , maybe d— feel pretty warm. but elsewhere , maybe a little— feel pretty warm. but elsewhere , maybe a little bit cooler than resemb— , maybe a little bit cooler than reeerrdr-bbe— , maybe a little bit cooler than recently-the most- recently. and the most bersbsberrb— recently. and the most persistent really reserved persistent rain really reserved for derbberrr— persistent rain really reserved for northern ireland parts for northern ireland and parts of for northern ireland and parts or seeddrrd— for northern ireland and parts of scotland into— for northern ireland and parts of scotland into the evening. very— of scotland into the evening. very udde— of scotland into the evening. very little change still the

rbsb— very little change still the rbsb er— very little change still the risk of some— very little change still the risk of some heavy rain across borders— risk of some heavy rain across northern ireland— risk of some heavy rain across northern ireland and scotland. redr— northern ireland and scotland. redrr d— northern ireland and scotland. redrr d udde— northern ireland and scotland. rain a little bit— northern ireland and scotland. rain a little bit more on and off rain a little bit more on and ed deress— rain a little bit more on and off across england and wales. abd— off across england and wales. and for— off across england and wales. and for most— off across england and wales. and for most of— off across england and wales. and for most of us it will be a fairly— and for most of us it will be a daddy cloudy— and for most of us it will be a fairly cloudy one,— and for most of us it will be a fairly cloudy one, a little bit more-building- fairly cloudy one, a little bit more building as fairly cloudy one, a little bit more-building as go more humidity building as we go into more humidity building as we go brrbe bbe— more humidity building as we go into the night—time so into the night—time period. so berbdbs— into the night—time period. so perhaps temperatures overnight, a perhaps temperatures overnight, d udde— perhaps temperatures overnight, d bbde bd— perhaps temperatures overnight, a little bit uncomfortable for be de— a little bit uncomfortable for some in the south, no lower than drud— some in the south, no lower than rd b,— some in the south, no lower than rd b, be— some in the south, no lower than around 17, 18 degrees. so we starb— around 17, 18 degrees. so we start saturday— around 17, 18 degrees. so we start saturday on a warm note , start saturday on a warm note, bdr— start saturday on a warm note, bub be — start saturday on a warm note, bub be be — start saturday on a warm note, but to the cloud— start saturday on a warm note, but to the cloud and rain will gubebb— but to the cloud and rain will gubebbg deer— but to the cloud and rain will quickly clear its— but to the cloud and rain will quickly clear its way eastwards as we go— quickly clear its way eastwards as we go through— quickly clear its way eastwards as we go through the course of the dew.— as we go through the course of the dew. se— as we go through the course of we day- be e— as we go through the course of the day. so a brighter picture for the day. so a brighter picture rer—es— the day. so a brighter picture rer—es we- the day. so a brighter picture for—as we move. the day. so a brighter picture. for—as we move into for many of us as we move into me— for many of us as we move into the afternoon.— for many of us as we move into the afternoon. quite windy for seeddrrd— the afternoon. quite windy for beeddrrd .— the afternoon. quite windy for beeddrrd . se— the afternoon. quite windy for scotland . so take note here. scotland. so take note here. cewbd— scotland. so take note here. add see— scotland. so take note here. could see coastal gales and could see some coastal gales and fregwerw— could see some coastal gales and some frequent showers too. some frequent showers here, too. but some frequent showers here, too. bub-beds— some frequent showers here, too. but-partlengland. but for many parts of england ded— but for many parts of england and wares— but for many parts of england and wdbes .— but for many parts of england and wales , plenty sunshine and wales, plenty of sunshine ded— and wales, plenty of sunshine and temperatures around average, wew— and temperatures around average, wew sbrrddr— and temperatures around average, wew sbrrdbdr br— and temperatures around average, very similar for sunday and monday.— very similar for sunday and monday- bdr— very similar for sunday and monday. but watch out for some strong— monday. but watch out for some sbrerrg wbrrds— monday. but watch out for some strong winds across scotland .