a very good morning to you. it's - a very good morning to you. n-s friday,— . a very good morning to you. n-s friday, the— . a very good morning to you. it's friday, the 30th— . a very good morning to you. it's friday, the 30th of- a very good morning to you. it's friday, the 30th of june. and— it's friday, the 30th of june. and this— it's friday, the 30th of june. and this is— it's friday, the 30th of june. and this is a— it's friday, the 30th of june. and this is a brand new friday edition— and this is a brand new friday eiiiion oi— and this is a brand new friday edition of britain's newsroom here— edition of britain's newsroom here on— edition of britain's newsroom here on ei— edition of britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me, tom iaiwooi— here on gb news. with me, tom iaiwooi ani— here on gb news. with me, tom harwood and ellie— here on gb news. with me, tom harwood and ellie costello. iois— harwood and ellie costello. iois coming— harwood and ellie costello. iois coming up— harwood and ellie costello. lots coming up for- harwood and ellie costello. lots coming up for you- harwood and ellie costello. lots coming up for you on the program today , including the program today, including the government has unveiled its long awaited nhs workforce plan today with measures like shorter medical degrees in a bid to plug staffing. black holes and number 10 will continue its battle over these rwanda deportations , with these rwanda deportations, with a plan to appeal yesterday's ruling by the courts that these things are unlawful and more tory turmoil. as zac goldsmith quits the government saying the prime minister isn't interested in the environment and a swan stopped the £15 billion elizabeth line in its tracks yesterday. does this once again show— yesterday. does this once again show iusi— yesterday. does this once again show iusi how— yesterday. does this once again show just how broken- 35; does this once again show just how broken britain is

ido -- i do think we have to be careful wiii— i do think we have to be careful wiiii iie— i do think we have to be careful with the swans— i do think we have to be careful with the swans because they are such— with the swans because they are such beautiful— with the swans because they are such beautiful creatures . i such beautiful creatures. i wouii— such beautiful creatures. i wouii have— such beautiful creatures. i would have just run it over. m; would have just run it over. we have— would have just run it over. we have very— would have just run it over. we have very differing— would have just run it over. we have very differing opinions on this and we want to hear your opinion at home. so do get in touch with today. at touch with us today. gb views at gbnews.com and also just to say that and phil will are that esther and phil will are going be back at 10:00 going to be back at 10:00 tomorrow morning with a new edition of saturday morning live. so we're very, very much looking forward to that. but first, let's get your news bulletin with rihanna . thank bulletin with rihanna. thank you, ellie. good " ? thank you, ellie. good morning. " 3 thank you, ellie. good morning. it is 931,— you, ellie. good morning. it is iii your— you, ellie. good morning. it is iii, your iop— you, ellie. good morning. it is 931, your top stories from the newsroom . ii— 931, your top stories from the newsroom . a and we start with newsroom. a and we start with breaking— newsroom. a and we start with some breaking news. laude soiismiii— some breaking news. laude goldsmith has— some breaking news. laude goldsmith has resigned as a minisior— goldsmith has resigned as a minister. zac— goldsmith has resigned as a minister. zac goldsmith said the goworwmow-si— minister. zac goldsmith said the government's apathy on climate showro— government's apathy on climate sirorrgo mois—

government's apathy on climate sirorrgo made i— government's apathy on climate change made it untenable for him to change made it untenable for him io romain— change made it untenable for him to remain minister— change made it untenable for him to remain minister for the international— to remain minister for the international environment. he oiso— international environment. he oiso sioims— international environment. he also claims prime minister rishi sorrow— also claims prime minister rishi sorrow is— also claims prime minister rishi sunak is uninterested in the environment— sunak is uninterested in the environment ._ sunak is uninterested in the environment . the government's environment. the government's nourishing— environment. the government's launching what's— environment. the government's launching what's being described as no— launching what's being described as we mosi— launching what's being described as the most radical modernisation and reform of as the most radical— modernisation and reform of the nis— modernisation and reform of the nws iri— modernisation and reform of the nws in is— modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history— modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history ._ modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history . ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the isiii— nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary— nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary of the health service,— 75th anniversary of the health sowiso, nio— 75th anniversary of the health service, the 15— 75th anniversary of the health service, the 15 year plan will aim — service, the 15 year plan will oim io— service, the 15 year plan will aim io piwg— service, the 15 year plan will aim to plug shortages of over sooooo— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff in— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff in england , with 300,000 staff in england, with m— 300,000 staff in england, with m iiiiiow— 300,000 staff in england, with £24 billion worth— 300,000 staff in england, with £2.4 billion worth of funding iiwo— £2.4 billion worth of funding over five years. _ £2.4 billion worth of funding over five years. the plan ioswsos— over five years. the plan focuses on retaining and iroiwiwg— focuses on retaining and training staff— focuses on retaining and training staff as well as ooopiiwg— training staff as well as adopting advanced technology like adopting advanced technology iino n— adopting advanced technology iino ni .— adopting advanced technology iino ni . nio— adopting advanced technology like ai . the high court will like al. the high court will hoor— like al. the high court will hear nio— like al. the high court will hear the government's legal sioiiowgo— hear the government's legal challenge against the covid inquiry-s— challenge against the covid inquiry's demand for boris ioiwsow-s— inquiry's demand for boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages, diaries— johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages, diaries and personal woioioons— messages, diaries and personal notebooks. the— messages, diaries and personal notebooks. the cabinet office orwogs— notebooks. the cabinet office orwosg nio— notebooks. the cabinet office argues the inquiry lacks the owiiioriw— argues the inquiry lacks the owiiioriw io — argues the inquiry lacks the authority to compel the release of unambiguously— authority to compel the release of unambiguously irrelevant moisrioi— of unambiguously irrelevant material. the— of unambiguously irrelevant material. the hearing begins ioiow— material. the hearing begins ioiow owi— material. the hearing begins today and concludes on monday .

today and concludes on monday. arri— today and concludes on monday. ari nio— today and concludes on monday. ari we owe— today and concludes on monday. and the duke of— today and concludes on monday. and the duke of sussex's lawsuit ogoiwsi— and the duke of sussex's lawsuit ogoirrsi nirror— and the duke of sussex's lawsuit against mirror group newspapers over allegations— against mirror group newspapers over allegations of phone hooking— over allegations of phone hooking is— over allegations of phone hacking is due- over allegations of phone hacking is due to conclude ioiow— hacking is due to conclude iooow. nio— hacking is due to conclude today. the trials over alleged wwiowfwi— today. the trials over alleged unlawful information gathering . unlawful information gathering. noiwoow— unlawful information gathering. noiwoow i996— unlawful information gathering. between 1996 and 2011 on the nirror— between 1996 and 2011 on the mirror group— between 1996 and 2011 on the mirror group denies any wrongdoing— mirror group denies any wrongdoing .— mirror group denies any wrongdoing . and you can get more wrongdoing. and you can get more on oii— wrongdoing. and you can get more on oii oi— wrongdoing. and you can get more on all of those— wrongdoing. and you can get more on all of those stories by wisiiing— on all of those stories by visiting our— on all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com visiting our website, gbnews.com now— visiting our website, gbnews.com now is— visiting our website, gbnews.com now is noon— visiting our website, gbnews.com now it's back to— visiting our website, gbnews.com now it's back to tom and . now it's back to tom and. ellie |woii.— now it's back to tom and. ellie l woii. nio— now it's back to tom and. ellie . well, the prime— now it's back to tom and. ellie - well, the prime minister. well, the prime minister is launching is being launching what is being described most radical described as the most radical reform nhs in its history reform of the nhs in its history later yes the 15 year later today. yes the 15 year plan will aim to plug shortages of to 360,000 staff and save of up to 360,000 staff and save taxpayers £10 billion. the health secretary , steve barclay, health secretary, steve barclay, says that the nhs has been

cooling for a long term plan like the government is unveil ailing one exactly like that today. it's so we can get those woiiing— today. it's so we can get those woiiing iisis— today. it's so we can get those waiting lists down— today. it's so we can get those waiting lists down so- : it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we can inn— waiting lists down so we can ensure that we— waiting lists down so we can ensure that we get the treatment,— ensure that we get the treatment, the extra capacity inno— treatment, the extra capacity no no— treatment, the extra capacity into the system.— treatment, the extra capacity into the system. but what today is oiso— into the system. but what today is oiso oiowi— into the system. but what today is also about is— into the system. but what today is also about is responding to sonoining— is also about is responding to something the— is also about is responding to something the nhs has asked for nonw— something the nhs has asked for many years— something the nhs has asked for many years, which— something the nhs has asked for many years, which is to have a iong— many years, which is to have a iong iorn— many years, which is to have a iong iorn pion— many years, which is to have a long term plan and it will be iioroiiws— long term plan and it will be iterative. it's— long term plan and it will be iterative. it's not— long term plan and it will be iterative. it's not a one off. new— iterative. it's not a one off. new neop— iterative. it's not a one off. we'll keep coming back to it and working— we'll keep coming back to it and working on— we'll keep coming back to it and working on i— we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in— we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in terms of as the noioiiing— working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves— working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves says. but snoiow— modelling evolves says. but shadow health— modelling evolves says. but shadow health secretary wes sirooiing— shadow health secretary wes streeting said— shadow health secretary wes streeting said the government snowii— streeting said the government snowii novo— streeting said the government should have taken action long ago. — should have taken action long ago. why— should have taken action long ago. whys wnw— should have taken action long ago. rwy 7’ why do we need the ago. why? why do we need the iiggosi— ago. why? why do we need the biggest expansion— ago. why? why do we need the biggest expansion of— ago. �*vw�*y?’ why do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in nisiorw— biggest expansion of nhs staff in nisiorw wnw— biggest expansion of nhs staff in history? why do we have such an understaffed _ in history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs? it's because— an understaffed nhs? it's because for— an understaffed nhs? it's because for the last 13 years we've not had— because for the last 13 years we've not had a— because for the last 13 years we've not had a workforce plan. it we've not had a workforce plan. ii is— we've not had a workforce plan. ii is no— we've not had a workforce plan. it is the biggest— we've not had a workforce plan. it is the biggest expansion si— it is the biggest expansion wo— it is the biggest expansion since the last— it is the biggest expansion since the last labour government wnion— since the last labour government which delivered— since the last labour government which delivered 75,000 more nurses and 44,000 more doctors .

nurses and 44,000 more doctors. as nurses and 44,000 more doctors. ks shadow— nurses and 44,000 more doctors. as shadow health— nurses and 44,000 more doctors. as shadow health secretary- nurses and 44,000 more doctors. as shadow health secretary wes streeting there. now we're kicking off this brand new show here this friday edition of britain's newsroom with this issue because it's something that so many people across the country feel every day. the nhs is so close to all of our hearts. well, it must be one of no— hearts. well, it must be one of one iiggosi— hearts. well, it must be one of the biggest polling— well, it must be one of the biggest polling issues , the biggest polling issues, wosn-i— the biggest polling issues, wosn-i iii— the biggest polling issues, wosn-i ii? i— the biggest polling issues, wasn't it? i mean, if you're iooking— wasn't it? i mean, if you're iooking oi— wasn't it? i mean, if you're looking at what— wasn't it? i mean, if you're looking at what matters to woorsi— looking at what matters to voters across— looking at what matters to voters across board is the voters across the board is the nis— voters across the board is the an. anoi— voters across the board is the an. and i— voters across the board is the nhs. and i think— voters across the board is the nhs. and i think something that poooio— nhs. and i think something that googio on— nhs. and i think something that people can always— nhs. and i think something that people can always agree on. nnoiowor— people can always agree on. whatever-you- people can always agree on. whatever you for people can always agree on. whatever-you-for is whatever party you vote for is inn— whatever party you vote for is no no— whatever party you vote for is that the-needs- whatever party you vote for is that the needs reform . so that the nhs needs reform. so i do wink— that the nhs needs reform. so i do inink wis— that the nhs needs reform. so i do think this is— that the nhs needs reform. so i do think this is going to be welcome. ' aid do think this is going to be welcome. ' grieg welcome. absolutely. and of course, said it was course, rishi sunak said it was his three if we his number three pledge. if we remember, those waiting remember, cut those waiting lists let's get some more lists. but let's get some more on story and indeed some on this story and indeed some others. now by the others. we're joined now by the political commentator john oxley and john, i suppose the labour party has come up with a fairly clever line here saying , well, clever line here saying, well, if you this is so needed , so if you say this is so needed, so necessary, didn't you do it necessary, why didn't you do it all those years ago? yes, absolutely. and all those years ago? yes, absolutely . and that's the sort absolutely. and that's the sort of absolutely. and that's the sort oi wing— absolutely. and that's the sort oi ining-wnon- absolutely. and that's the sort of thing -when you've i of thing you say when you've noon— of thing you say when you've been in— of thing you say when you've been in opposition for 13 years oni— been in opposition for 13 years and—of-inl

and the other side of being in gowornrnonn — and the other side of being in government. think government. but i think what wis— this interestingly shows is wow-ro— this interestingly shows is. they're _ attacking they're not actually attacking they're not actually attacking ino ioioiis— they're not actually attacking the details of— they're not actually attacking the details of the plan , which the details of the plan, which is-ior— the details of the plan, which is-ior kisni — the details of the plan, which is for rishi sunak is good for rishi sunak goiiiiooiiw— is good for rishi sunak politically ,_ is good for rishi sunak politically , but also shows this politically, but also shows this is proioiiw— politically, but also shows this is probably going— politically, but also shows this is probably going to be sonoining— is probably going to be something the labour something that the labour government— government are going to continue wnon— government are going to continue wnon inow-ro — government are going to continue wnon inow-ro in— government are going to continue when they're in office and poioniioiiw— when they're in office and potentially if— when they're in office and potentially if they win the next gonoroi— potentially if they win the next general election— potentially if they win the next general election in 5 or 10 years— general election in 5 or 10 years ino— general election in 5 or 10 years time -we- general election in 5 or 10 years time we come general election in 5 or 10- years time-we come round years time when we come round agar...— years time when we come round again, conservatives are again, the conservatives are going— again, the conservatives are going-a— again, the conservatives are going-o goooi- again, the conservatives are going a good position going to be in a good position of going to be in a good position oi—oowrso- going to be in a good position of_course the. of saying, well of course the an—,- of saying, well of course the an—, ini- of saying, well of course the an—, iwi ii-si nhs has improved, but it's iooowso— nhs has improved, but it's because-kick- nhs has improved, but it's because kick off in nhs has improved, but it's- because.kick-off in 2023 because we kick this off in 2023 oni— because we kick this off in 2023 and wow-wo— because we kick this off in 2023 and know-we insi— because we kick this off in 2023 and they've just taken the oroiii— and they've just taken the orooiii . — and they've just taken the credit . what's- and they've just taken the credit . �*fw�*fiic ” ”niece iii" and they've just taken the- credit . what's your reaction to credit. what's your reaction to these plans, john? because as you say , it does seem be you say, it does seem to be going down. it's been been going down. well, it's been been received board . received well across the board. yes. it seems like a very sonsiiio— yes. it seems like a very sensible because sensible plan because what wow-ro— sensible plan because what they're-rather- they're doing is rather than ioking— they're doing is rather than ioking on— they're doing is rather than taking on the— they're doing is rather than taking on the scary issues taking on the big scary issues of taking on the big scary issues oi now— taking on the big scary issues oi now go— taking on the big scary issues oi now do wo— taking on the big scary issues of how do we fund the nhs, wow-ro— of how do we fund the nhs, they're looking _ of how do we fund the nhs, they're looking at how do we get iooiors— they're looking at how do we get more doctors and— they're looking at how do we get more doctors and nurses, how do we more doctors and nurses, how do wo-roioniion- more doctors and nurses, how do we-retention and- we solve this retention and recruitment— we solve this retention and recruitment really recruitment issue and really iooking— recruitment issue and really iooking oi— recruitment issue and really looking at one— recruitment issue and really looking at one of the big proiions— looking at one of the big problems that- looking at one of the big problems that for many years we've not hired— problems that for many years we've not hired enough people oni— we've not hired enough people and particularly— we've not hired enough people and particularly around training for and particularly around training ior iooiors— and particularly around training ior iooiors ,— and particularly around training for doctors , we've— and particularly around training for doctors , we've turned away for doctors, we've turned away innings— for doctors, we've turned away niniroois oi— for doctors, we've turned away hundreds of thousands of people wio— hundreds of thousands of people wio wani—

hundreds of thousands of people wio woni io— hundreds of thousands of people who want to train— hundreds of thousands of people who want to train as doctors who are who want to train as doctors who applying— who want to train as doctors who are applying for_ who want to train as doctors who are applying for university. wowe— are applying for university. woke-o— are applying for university. we've-a-strict- are applying for university. we've a strict cap are applying for university. - we've-a-strict cap and we've had a very strict cap and insiooi— we've had a very strict cap and instead ended— we've had a very strict cap and instead ended up— we've had a very strict cap and instead ended up recruiting iooiors— instead ended up recruiting doctors from _ instead ended up recruiting doctors from abroad . and so doctors from abroad. and so iooking— doctors from abroad. and so we're looking at— doctors from abroad. and so we're looking at that and fixing inn.— we're looking at that and fixing iioi. kni— we're looking at that and fixing that. and also— we're looking at that and fixing that. and also similarly on nurses looking— that. and also similarly on nurses looking at different ways to nurses looking at different ways io gwoiiiw— nurses looking at different ways to qualify, nurses— nurses looking at different ways to qualify, nurses getting away iron— to qualify, nurses getting away iron iio— to qualify, nurses getting away from the degree— to qualify, nurses getting away from the degree model to more oggroniioosnios— from the degree model to more apprenticeships more routes apprenticeships and more routes into apprenticeships and more routes inio—ii- apprenticeships and more routes inio—ii soornsi into the profession. so it seems iiko— into the profession. so it seems like something— into the profession. so it seems like something-is- into the profession. so it seems like something is going to like something that is going to rooiiw— like something that is going to rooiiw-inoi— like something that is going to really-that big- like something that is going to really that big problem really tackle that big problem of really tackle that big problem oi-nwo— really tackle that big problem of-have enough- really tackle that big problem of have enough people of do we have enough people working— of do we have enough people working-wo— of do we have enough people working the nhs? : g working in the nhs? the branding around this is really interesting the interesting because the government saying this is government is not saying this is rishi sunak's plan. the government is not saying this is the plan. they're the conservatives plan. they're saying plan saying this is the nhs plan supported by the government. we're going to be hearing a lot from figures within the nhs today government saying today and the government saying we're what the nhs wants we're doing what the nhs wants us to. i suppose that's clever political messaging, absolutely. i conservatives always i think the conservatives always novo— i think the conservatives always novolnroiion— i think the conservatives always have problem around the nhs have a problem around the nhs inn— have a problem around the nhs iioi—oono— have a problem around the nhs iioi—oono wo- have a problem around the nhs that—come up with. have a problem around the nhs that come up with a that when they come up with a pion— that when they come up with a planiparticularly_ that when they come up with a plan particularly you look at plan, particularly you look at the plan, particularly you look at iio—oion- the andrew lansley plan ten years— the andrew lansley plan ten years-everyone- the andrew lansley plan ten years everyone gets years ago that everyone gets a bit suspicious— years ago that everyone gets a bit suspicious that do we really irwsi— bit suspicious that do we really irwsi iio— bit suspicious that do we really trust the conservatives with the ani— trust the conservatives with the nhs? is— trust the conservatives with the nhs? is ins— trust the conservatives with the nhs? is this a— trust the conservatives with the nhs? is this a way to cut costs

roiior— nhs? is this a way to cut costs roiior iion— nhs? is this a way to cut costs rather than deliver— nhs? is this a way to cut costs rather than deliver better sorwiooi— rather than deliver better service? but— rather than deliver better service? but by saying this is win— service? but by saying this is wioi iookin— service? but by saying this is what health officials, this is win— what health officials, this is what doctors— what health officials, this is what doctors want, and then, yes,— what doctors want, and then, yes-si— what doctors want, and then, yes,-a-political| yes, it's got a huge political oiwoniogo— yes, it's got a huge political advantage and— yes, it's got a huge political advantage and allows them to rooiiw— advantage and allows them to rooiiw on— advantage and allows them to really own the— advantage and allows them to really own the plan and really put really own the plan and really rwi iio— really own the plan and really put the labour— really own the plan and really put the labour party, as we've oiroooiw— put the labour party, as we've seen already with— put the labour party, as we've seen already with wes streeting, nos— seen already with wes streeting, no-s sat/ingr— seen already with wes streeting, no-s sowing-is- he's saying, well, this is groan— he's saying, well, this is great,-could- he's saying, well, this is great, could have he's saying, well, this is- great,-could have done great, but you could have done ins—noi- this earlier, which is not the sane-sowing,- same attack as saying, no, this is—ioiowr-s- same attack as saying, no, this is_labour's plan. same attack as saying, no, this| is_labour's plan for is a bad plan. labour's plan for the is a bad plan. labour's plan for ino-is— is a bad plan. labour's plan for iio-is noon— is a bad plan. labour's plan for the-is much better. - is a bad plan. labour's plan for the is much better. it makes the nhs is much better. it makes it the nhs is much better. it makes ii wow— the nhs is much better. it makes ii wow nori— the nhs is much better. it makes ii wow noni io— the nhs is much better. it makes it very hard to criticise a plan inn— it very hard to criticise a plan iioi-oono— it very hard to criticise a plan that-come-from . that has come largely from wiiiin— that has come largely from within organisation . that has come largely from - within-organisation . i mean, within the organisation. i mean, ior..— within the organisation. i mean, john is— within the organisation. i mean, gonn. as you— within the organisation. i mean, gonn. as you sow.— within the organisation. i mean, john, as you say, retention and recruitment issues have plagued the nhs for a very, very long time now. what so time now. what is so interesting, at this interesting, looking at this plan not mentioned . i plan is pay is not mentioned. i mean, is that part of that clever branding you think of avoiding big issues such avoiding those big issues such as funding, perhaps that's why they haven't mentioned pay instead focussed on instead they've focussed on recruitment . but does that then recruitment. but does that then go enough existing staff go far enough for existing staff who aren't happy who actually just aren't happy with their pay at the moment, as we've strike we've seen through strike action? ithink we've seen through strike action? i think that's absolutely— action? i think that's absolutely one- {it :::i7 i think that's absolutely one of action? i think that's absolutely one of problems. absolutely one of the problems. anoi— absolutely one of the problems. and wow-wo— absolutely one of the problems. and you've-this— absolutely one of the problems. and you've this week and you've seen this week iioro-s— and you've seen this week there's been— and you've seen this week there's been further strikes announced. -a- there's been further strikes announced. a big risk there's been further strikes- announced.-a big risk of announced. there's a big risk of iooiors— announced. there's a big risk of doctors-abroad.-

announced. there's a big risk of. doctors-abroad.-know, doctors moving abroad. you know, you doctors moving abroad. you know, wow—oiokoi— doctors moving abroad. you know, wow—niokoi iinos- doctors moving abroad. you know, you—picket lines, the. you see on the picket lines, the kwsiroiion— you see on the picket lines, the australian health _ you see on the picket lines, the australian health services are iwrning— australian health services are iwrning wo— australian health services are iwrning no oni— australian health services are turning up and basically oiioring— turning up and basically offering-jobs- turning up and basically offering jobs on the offering people jobs on the niokoi— offering people jobs on the niokoi-nwi- offering people jobs on the picket but what this picket lines. but what this sinis— picket lines. but what this sioris io— picket lines. but what this sioris io io— picket lines. but what this starts to do is— picket lines. but what this starts to do is it starts to rowoooi— starts to do is it starts to rowoooi iio— starts to do is it starts to reduce the workload around the nis— reduce the workload around the an. now— reduce the workload around the nhs. you know,— reduce the workload around the nhs. you know, part of the groiion — nhs. you know, part of the proiion ior— nhs. you know, part of the problem for doctors and nurses is wo— problem for doctors and nurses is we oiowi— problem for doctors and nurses is we are about 100,000 staff sion— is we are about 100,000 staff siori oi— is we are about 100,000 staff short of where— is we are about 100,000 staff short of where we— is we are about 100,000 staff short of where we need to be and wiiinoioiw— short of where we need to be and wiiinoioiw o— short of where we need to be and ultimately a lot— short of where we need to be and ultimately a lot of— short of where we need to be and ultimately a lot of them have to niok— ultimately a lot of them have to giok wo— ultimately a lot of them have to giok no no— ultimately a lot of them have to pick up the slack.— ultimately a lot of them have to pick up the slack. so it's not insi— pick up the slack. so it's not iwsi oiowi— pick up the slack. so it's not iwsi oiowi gow— pick up the slack. so it's not just about pay, it's about working— just about pay, it's about working conditions. and those iwo— working conditions. and those iwo go— working conditions. and those two go together.— working conditions. and those two go together. but i think wow-ro— two go together. but i think you're absolutely right. is you're absolutely right. this is a you're absolutely right. this is o-oi— you're absolutely right. this is o-oi ioiking— you're absolutely right. this is a of talking about the a way of talking about the wings— a way of talking about the inings inn— a way of talking about the things that are— a way of talking about the things that are a bit easier iion— things that are a bit easier inon goiiing— things that are a bit easier than getting into how much are we than getting into how much are wo-io— than getting into how much are wo-io pow— than getting into how much are we-to pay doctors- than getting into how much are we to pay doctors and we going to pay doctors and nwrsosoor-w— we going to pay doctors and. nurses-year-year nurses this year and next year wion— when there's already a big siroin— when there's already a big strain -financesi when there's already a big. strain -finances ? when there's already a big- strain -finances ? now, strain on public finances? now, inking— strain on public finances? now, talking-talking— strain on public finances? now, talking talking about easy talking of talking about easy things about hard things and talking about hard things and talking about hard things , perhaps government things, perhaps the government would to be would want everyone to be talking about how good their nhs recruits today, recruits plan is today, what they might not want to be talking about is the debacle of yesterday . the court of appeal yesterday. the court of appeal judge moment, that said that the government's signature rwanda plan is unlawful. we've now

learned that the government wants to appeal this ruling, which perhaps is no surprise . which perhaps is no surprise. but is this a political win or a setback for the government? i think it depends how the future plays— think it depends how the future giows owi. — think it depends how the future plays out. there's— think it depends how the future plays out. there's sort of two rowosi— plays out. there's sort of two rowosi ior— plays out. there's sort of two routes for the— plays out. there's sort of two routes for the conservatives. one— routes for the conservatives. ono is— routes for the conservatives. ono is wow— routes for the conservatives. one is you this— routes for the conservatives. one is you this rwanda plan gets sionnoi— one is you this rwanda plan gets siornoo oni— one is you this rwanda plan gets stopped and then— one is you this rwanda plan gets stopped and then we go into the son— stopped and then we go into the son oi— stopped and then we go into the sort of debate— stopped and then we go into the sort of debate some people in no— sort of debate some people in the conservative— sort of debate some people in the conservative party want to nowo — the conservative party want to nowo oiowi— the conservative party want to have about repealing the human kigiis— have about repealing the human kigiis now— have about repealing the human rights act, about— have about repealing the human rights act, about withdrawing iron — rights act, about withdrawing iron iio — rights act, about withdrawing from the european convention on human— from the european convention on human kigiis— from the european convention on human rights, but— from the european convention on human rights, but potentially the human rights, but potentially ino nigger— human rights, but potentially the bigger problem for the ionos— the bigger problem for the iorios is— the bigger problem for the tories is this— the bigger problem for the tories is this plan they've ioikoi— tories is this plan they've ioikooi o— tories is this plan they've talked a lot— tories is this plan they've talked a lot about. it was again , oi— talked a lot about. it was again ,on oi kisii— talked a lot about. it was again , one of rishi key— talked a lot about. it was again , one of rishi key pledges was siogging— , one of rishi key pledges was siopping ino— , one of rishi key pledges was stopping the-isn't- stopping the boats isn't going to stopping the boats isn't going io-in— stopping the boats isn't going io-in iio— stopping the boats isn't going to-in the short- stopping the boats isn't going to in the short term. to happen in the short term. iioro— to happen in the short term. nero-o— to happen in the short term. iioro-o ioi— to happen in the short term. there-a lot of- to happen in the short term. there a lot of time to do there isn't a lot of time to do iiings— there isn't a lot of time to do iiings iiko— there isn't a lot of time to do things like repealing the human kigiis— things like repealing the human kigiis noi— things like repealing the human kignis koi or— things like repealing the human rights act or pulling the rights act or pulling out the ionio— rights act or pulling out the ionio so— rights act or pulling out the echr so probably you're going to get echr so probably you're going to goi—noiiing- echr so probably you're going to get—polling day- get to the next polling day and wow-ro—sowing- you're going to be saying, well, wow—nose- you're going to be saying, well, your—these people your plan to send these people to your plan to send these people io—nonnonoi. i your plan to send these peoplei to_happened. not to rwanda hasn't happened. not a singio— to rwanda hasn't happened. not a singio iiigii— to rwanda hasn't happened. not a single flight-off. - single flight has taken off. nui— single flight has taken off. in ini— single flight has taken off. in in ini— single flight has taken off. but but but looking- single flight has taken off. but but but looking at- single flight has taken off. but but but looking at that could the government not say if we get up to that polling day and they say, look, we've been

trying send planes to trying to send these planes to rwanda, all these rwanda, we've got all these plans place, for want of plans in place, but for want of a term , the blob, a better term, the blob, activist , as even the activist lawyers, as even the unhcr , lots of different unhcr, lots of different individuals groups conspired to sort of stop this in its tracks in the courts. is that a is that an argument that might well carry favour with voters , or are carry favour with voters, or are we now far too through this process ? us i think it's very process? us i think it's very iiiiiowii— process? us i think it's very difficult to— process? us i think it's very difficult to ask— process? us i think it's very difficult to ask for- f7 us i think it's very difficult to ask for another iiwo— difficult to ask for another iiwo woors— difficult to ask for another five years in— difficult to ask for another five years in power saying look at five years in power saying look oi oii— five years in power saying look oi oii iio— five years in power saying look at all the things— five years in power saying look at all the things we wanted to get at all the things we wanted to goi iono— at all the things we wanted to goi oono iioi— at all the things we wanted to get done that we— at all the things we wanted to get done that we still haven't got get done that we still haven't goi iono— get done that we still haven't goi oono. kno— get done that we still haven't got done. and think that's got done. and i think that's oisoiwioiw— got done. and i think that's absolutely the— got done. and i think that's absolutely the line the conservatives going conservatives are probably going to conservatives are probably going io—now- conservatives are probably going io—now nwonl conservatives are probably going| io—now nwon ii to have to take. but how much it geis— to have to take. but how much it gois wiin— to have to take. but how much it gels with voters— to have to take. but how much it gels with voters is— to have to take. but how much it gels with voters is a different monor— gels with voters is a different noiior ,— gels with voters is a different matter , particularly when matter, particularly when goioniioiiw— matter, particularly when potentially we're seeing all of iioso— potentially we're seeing all of iioso nions— potentially we're seeing all of those plans unravel. inflation is siiii— those plans unravel. inflation is still remaining quite high. iio— is still remaining quite high. iio ooonornw— is still remaining quite high. the economy is— is still remaining quite high. the economy is struggling . you the economy is struggling. you know,— the economy is struggling. you know, are voters— the economy is struggling. you know, are voters going to inowigo— know, are voters going to inonigo iio— know, are voters going to indulge the conservative party wion— indulge the conservative party wion iiow-ro — indulge the conservative party when they're saying, look, we'd rooiiw— when they're saying, look, we'd rooiiw iiko— when they're saying, look, we'd really iiko io— when they're saying, look, we'd really like to do— when they're saying, look, we'd really like to do these things, ini— really like to do these things, iwi ini— really like to do these things, iwi iwi wo— really like to do these things, but but we can't— really like to do these things, but but we can't do it, but vote for but but we can't do it, but vote ior—noti- but but we can't do it, but vote ior—wo-ii oo- for us this time. we'll do it noxi— for us this time. we'll do it next-promise. . for us this time. we'll do it. next-promise. well, for us this time. we'll do it- next-promise. well, the next time. we promise. well, the government still government says it's still committed rwanda

committed did to the rwanda plan. you think that's the plan. do you think that's the right are they right to right thing? are they right to press with or should press ahead with this or should they be coming up with a plan b, as say, by election day is as you say, by election day is looming. long looming. they haven't got long to on this. i think to make a move on this. i think the rwanda plan, if anything, should only be forming one strand of what they're trying to do to this boat do with regard to this boat problem, that it's going to take a long time. it's going to be swiiooi— a long time. it's going to be swiiooi io— a long time. it's going to be subject to all— a long time. it's going to be subject to all these - wig c it's going to be subject to all these queries and it's subject to all these queries and its going— subject to all these queries and its going io— subject to all these queries and its going io io— subject to all these queries and it's going to be hugely oponsiwo— it's going to be hugely expensive. there's a it's going to be hugely- expensive.-there's a broader expensive. and there's a broader nroiion — expensive. and there's a broader proiion oiowi— expensive. and there's a broader problem about it.— expensive. and there's a broader problem about it. for example, the problem about it. for example, iio iook— problem about it. for example, iio iook oi— problem about it. for example, the lack of safe— problem about it. for example, the lack of safe and legal rowosi— the lack of safe and legal routes, which— the lack of safe and legal routes, which exacerbates this nroiion. — routes, which exacerbates this problem. rishi— routes, which exacerbates this problem. rishi sunak said wosioroow— problem. rishi sunak said wosioroow ,— problem. rishi sunak said yesterday , we— problem. rishi sunak said yesterday , we want the yesterday, we want the government _ yesterday, we want the government to decide who gets to rug, noi— government to decide who gets to come here, not criminal gangs. wow— come here, not criminal gangs. run, we— come here, not criminal gangs. well, the reality— come here, not criminal gangs. well, the reality is, under the owrroni— well, the reality is, under the owrroni-ino- well, the reality is, under the current-the only- well, the reality is, under the current the only way to current system, the only way to come here, no matter valid come here, no matter how valid or inwoiio— come here, no matter how valid or inwoiio wow— come here, no matter how valid or invalid your asylum claim is, is io— or invalid your asylum claim is, is io now— or invalid your asylum claim is, is io row on— or invalid your asylum claim is, is io pow oi— or invalid your asylum claim is, is to pay one of these criminal gangs— is to pay one of these criminal gongs oni— is to pay one of these criminal gongs ono goi— is to pay one of these criminal gangs and get brought here and see gangs and get brought here and soowon—n- gangs and get brought here and soowon—n wow- gangs and get brought here and| see—when you put see what happens when you put wow— see what happens when you put wowr—ininkl your application in. so i think more— your application in. so i think there—broader- your application in. so i think. there—broader focus there should be a broader focus on no— there should be a broader focus on one nigger— there should be a broader focus on the bigger aspects of these nroiions— on the bigger aspects of these problems around— on the bigger aspects of these problems around small boats. and it problems around small boats. and ii-io— problems around small boats. and ii-io on— problems around small boats. and ii-io nionk— problems around small boats. and it be one plank what the it should be one plank what the gowornnoni— it should be one plank what the government—the. government are doing at the rnornoni— government are doing at the moment-really- moment is they're really

oonniiiing— moment is they're really committing into committing all their eggs into ins— committing all their eggs into iiis-ioskoi— committing all their eggs into this-basket and- committing all their eggs into this basket and it looks this one basket and it looks iiko— this one basket and it looks iiko ii-s— this one basket and it looks like it's not— this one basket and it looks like it's not going to succeed in no— like it's not going to succeed in iio sion— like it's not going to succeed in the short term. \:::i c in the short term. no, it's a rooiiw— in the short term. no, it's a rooiiw .— in the short term. no, it's a really , really interesting really, really interesting issue because you mentioned the five pledges of rishi sunak that he made at the start of the year. at the start of the year. all of the commentary was, oh, he's set such a low bar for himself. all of are eminently of these are eminently achievable. really achievable. there aren't really sort of strong metrics by which you judge this. the you can judge this. and by the way, inflation going to way, inflation is going to tumble anyway. it's not looking quite now . so has he has quite so easy now. so has he has he made a mistake here? well, i think you always have to set out what your you're trying to do. and you have to be honest with the and you have to be honest with iio owiiio— and you have to be honest with the public about— and you have to be honest with the public about the challenges iioi— the public about the challenges inn-owi— the public about the challenges iioi-nwi i— the public about the challenges that-but i think- that go ahead. but i think whenever you— that go ahead. but i think whenever you pin yourself to iiwo— whenever you pin yourself to five identifiable _ whenever you pin yourself to five identifiable things, even if five identifiable things, even ii iio— five identifiable things, even if the numbers— five identifiable things, even if the numbers around them are a bit if the numbers around them are a iii iwzzw— if the numbers around them are a iii iwzzw ,— if the numbers around them are a iii fuzzy , googio— if the numbers around them are a bit fuzzy , people are going to bit fuzzy, people are going to iook— bit fuzzy, people are going to iook oi— bit fuzzy, people are going to look at those— bit fuzzy, people are going to look at those and think, have you— look at those and think, have. wow—inoroosingiw you delivered? and increasingly you delivered? and increasingly you 90— you delivered? and increasingly you go down— you delivered? and increasingly you go down that— you delivered? and increasingly you go down that list and six noniis— you go down that list and six noniis on— you go down that list and six months on, it's— you go down that list and six months on, it's not looking like moi.— months on, it's not looking like iioi. kno— months on, it's not looking like that. and there's— months on, it's not looking like that. and there's a— months on, it's not looking like that. and there's a year, 18 noniis— that. and there's a year, 18 months towards— that. and there's a year, 18 months towards the election in. owi— months towards the election in. iii-know,— months towards the election in. but-know, that's- months towards the election in. but know, that's not a lot but you know, that's not a lot

of but you know, that's not a lot oi iino— but you know, that's not a lot oi iino io— but you know, that's not a lot of time to really— but you know, that's not a lot of time to really get on to iioso— of time to really get on to those things— of time to really get on to those things and particularly ooo— those things and particularly around inflation. the danger now is no— around inflation. the danger now is iio wow— around inflation. the danger now is iio wow-gown- around inflation. the danger now is the way-down on- is the way to crack down on iniioiion— is the way to crack down on inflation is— is the way to crack down on inflation is generally ramping up iniorosi— inflation is generally ramping up interest rates, which which, you— up interest rates, which which, you know,— up interest rates, which which, you know, okow— up interest rates, which which, you know, okay, that gets iniioiion— you know, okay, that gets inflation down. but if someone's norigogo— inflation down. but if someone's nongogo nos— inflation down. but if someone's mortgage has gone up massively , mortgage has gone up massively, wow-ro— mortgage has gone up massively, iiow-ro noi— mortgage has gone up massively, they're not really— mortgage has gone up massively, they're not really feeling the ionoiii— they're not really feeling the ionoiii . — they're not really feeling the benefit . the— they're not really feeling the benefit . �*" they're not really feeling the. benefit . the-phrase, if it's benefit. the old phrase, if it's not it's not working. not hurting, it's not working. exactly. i've got to ask you about lord goldsmith, who's just resigned onto the resigned before we came onto the programme. what's your reaction to that? i think it's an interesting— 3&7 i think it's an interesting move, particularly at interesting move, particularly oiiiis— interesting move, particularly oiiiisiino— interesting move, particularly at this time. he— interesting move, particularly at this time. he was criticised by at this time. he was criticised iw-nriwiiogoo— at this time. he was criticised by privileged committee the by the privileged committee the oiior— by the privileged committee the oiior-oiso— by the privileged committee the other- also he - by the privileged committee the other-also he is- other day, but also he is. someone _close someone who is very close goiiiiooi— someone who is very close political ally— someone who is very close political ally of— someone who is very close political ally of boris johnson . now— political ally of boris johnson . you know,— political ally of boris johnson . you know, carrie— political ally of boris johnson . you know, carrie johnson , . you know, carrie johnson, noris-s— . you know, carrie johnson, noris-s wiio— . you know, carrie johnson, boris's wife, worked for him for gwiio— boris's wife, worked for him for gwiio o— boris's wife, worked for him for gniio o iong— boris's wife, worked for him for quite a long period of time. t hey— quite a long period of time. new or— quite a long period of time. they wow— quite a long period of time. they are very close. i think its— they are very close. i think is o— they are very close. i think is o wow— they are very close. i think is o very io— they are very close. i think it's a very be interesting move to it's a very be interesting move io io— it's a very be interesting move io io ioowing— it's a very be interesting move to be leaving the— it's a very be interesting move to be leaving the government at this to be leaving the government at iiis iino— to be leaving the government at iiis iino .— to be leaving the government at iiis iino . kno— to be leaving the government at this time . and it— to be leaving the government at this time . and it feels like one this time. and it feels like one of this time. and it feels like one oi iioso— this time. and it feels like one of those things— this time. and it feels like one of those things that is designed to of those things that is designed io—o- of those things that is designed io—o iiiiiol to sort of upset rishi a little iii.— to sort of upset rishi a little iii-wow— to sort of upset rishi a little bit.-you don't- to sort of upset rishi a little bit. you don't think then bit. and you don't think then ins— bit. and you don't think then iiis is— bit. and you don't think then this is about— bit. and you don't think then this is about the— bit. and you don't think then this is about the environment. owi— this is about the environment. iii-nois— this is about the environment. nwi-inoi-s o— this is about the environment. but that's a handy but i think that's a handy excuse when— but i think that's a handy excuse when look the excuse when you look at the ining— excuse when you look at the iining-ii-s— excuse when you look at the timing. it's interesting timing. and it's interesting iioi— timing. and it's interesting that-yesterday- timing. and it's interesting that yesterday very

that rishi yesterday very sirongiw— that rishi yesterday very strongly backed lord goldsmith ioiiowing— strongly backed lord goldsmith ioiiowing iio — strongly backed lord goldsmith following the privileged committee _ following the privileged committee report , but now he's committee report, but now he's gone.— committee report, but now he's gone. so— committee report, but now he's gone. so i— committee report, but now he's gone. so i think— committee report, but now he's gone. so i think maybe he's just iiroo— gone. so i think maybe he's just iiroo oi— gone. so i think maybe he's just iiroo oi ioing— gone. so i think maybe he's just tired of being around in government,- tired of being around in government, but it feels like if he government, but it feels like if no os— government, but it feels like if no rooiiw— government, but it feels like if he was really committed to the onwironrnoni— he was really committed to the environment, he'd— he was really committed to the environment, he'd around environment, he'd stay around oni— environment, he'd stay around ono—o- environment, he'd stay aroundi ono—olnoro. and fight his cause a bit more. its— and fight his cause a bit more. it's interesting— and fight his cause a bit more. it's interesting because this is the it's interesting because this is iio nig— it's interesting because this is one big gow— it's interesting because this is the big day that— it's interesting because this is the big day that the government irioo— the big day that the government irioo io— the big day that the government tried to wrestle— the big day that the government tried to wrestle control of the -nowsior— tried to wrestle control of thei news -for- having news agenda for once, having owoonorw— news agenda for once, having oworwono-oiowi- news agenda for once, having everyone about what they everyone talking about what they wonioo—ins- everyone talking about what they wanted—this new. wanted to talk about this new nion. — wanted to talk about this new pion. ni— wanted to talk about this new pion. kii ino— wanted to talk about this new plan. all the nhs- wanted to talk about this new plan. n : wanted to talk about this new plan. n g plan. all the nhs heads saying it's wonderful the recruitment and yet lord goldsmith inserting him into this conversation, particularly on a friday when sunday morning papers will no doubt carry a lot of this internal psychodrama . that's internal psychodrama. that's a big problem. the— f: that's a big problem. the conservatives are big problem. the conservatives iooing— big problem. the conservatives iooing oi— big problem. the conservatives are facing at the— big problem. the conservatives are facing at the moment and wiii— are facing at the moment and wiii rooiiw— are facing at the moment and will really be— are facing at the moment and will really be facing going up to will really be facing going up io iio— will really be facing going up io iio noxi— will really be facing going up to the next election that the party— to the next election that the ponw is— to the next election that the party is divided— to the next election that the party is divided into these iooiions— party is divided into these factions. they— party is divided into these factions. they all kind of know a factions. they all kind of know o ooiooi— factions. they all kind of know o ooiooi is— factions. they all kind of know a defeat is coming . so there's a defeat is coming. so there's noi— a defeat is coming. so there's noi noon— a defeat is coming. so there's not much incentive to pull iogoiior. — not much incentive to pull together. but— not much incentive to pull together. but that just makes oworwining— together. but that just makes everything harder for rishi swnok— everything harder for rishi swnok oni— everything harder for rishi sunak and the— everything harder for rishi sunak and the party as a whole, iooowso— sunak and the party as a whole, because whenever— sunak and the party as a whole, because whenever you're doing oi— because whenever you're doing oi iioso— because whenever you're doing one of these announcements,

iioro-s— there's always someone or sonoiiing— there's always someone or. sonoiiing—owi there's always someone or- something_out and something that can come out and you something that can come out and wow ioso— something that can come out and wow ioso iio— something that can come out and you lose the news— something that can come out and you lose the news day and rather iion— you lose the news day and rather iion ioiking— you lose the news day and rather than talking about— you lose the news day and rather than talking about what the conservatives— than talking about what the conservatives are trying to ooiiowo — conservatives are trying to ooiiowo—orol achieve and indeed are ooiiowing— achieve and indeed are achieving, get back into achieving, you get back into westminster— achieving, you get back into westminster gossip. and that's a rook— westminster gossip. and that's a rook-ii— westminster gossip. and that's a rooi-ii wow-ro- westminster gossip. and that's a real if you're trying westminster gossip. and that's a rebuild if you're trying westminster gossip. and that's a rebuild an if you're trying westminster gossip. and that's a rebuild an election're trying westminster gossip. and that's a rebuild an election campaign . to build an election campaign. kno— to build an election campaign. and now— to build an election campaign. and now oo— to build an election campaign. and now do wow— to build an election campaign. and how do you think- to build an election campaign. and how do you think he- to build an election campaign. and how do you think he feels about being in about being named in that supplementary the supplementary report from the privileges yesterday ? privileges committee yesterday? l, privileges committee yesterday? i, i like to think he finds it a bit embarrassing, but i think , bit embarrassing, but i think, iiko— bit embarrassing, but i think, iiko oii— bit embarrassing, but i think, iiko oii oi— bit embarrassing, but i think, like all of these— bit embarrassing, but i think, like all of these people who are won— like all of these people who are wow-io— like all of these people who are wow-io boris— like all of these people who are very to boris johnson and very close to boris johnson and oiiook— very close to boris johnson and oiiook iio— very close to boris johnson and attack the report,— very close to boris johnson and attack the report, they were gone— attack the report, they were quite bullish _ attack the report, they were quite bullish - i - attack the report, they were quite bullish i don't quite bullish about it. i don't know— quite bullish about it. i don't know now— quite bullish about it. i don't know how much— quite bullish about it. i don't know how much they care, how noon— know how much they care, how noon-ii— know how much they care, how noon-ii os— know how much they care, how much-it as sort- know how much they care, how much-it as sort of- much they see it as sort of ioogo— much they see it as sort of ioogo oi— much they see it as sort of badge of honour- much they see it as sort of badge of honour that they went inio—so- into bat for their friend. so nori— into bat for their friend. so noni io— into bat for their friend. so hard to know— into bat for their friend. so hard to know how much that oiiooioo— hard to know how much that oiiooioo. — hard to know how much that affected-. well,- hard to know how much that affected . will ’7,0““ hard to know how much that- affected-. well, john oxley, affected him. well, john oxley, thank so much for talking us thank you so much for talking us through big, big political through those big, big political stories the day and stories kicking off the day and indeed kicking the news here indeed kicking off the news here on newsroom . yes. to on britain's newsroom. yes. to really, really big stories . i- really, really big stories. i insi— really, really big stories. i insi woni— really, really big stories. i insi woni io— really, really big stories. i just want to bring you a little bit just want to bring you a little iii oi— just want to bring you a little iii oi iioi— just want to bring you a little bit of that statement because it is—iniorosiing- is really, really interesting, isn-i— is really, really interesting, isn-i n,— is really, really interesting, isn't it, tom?— is really, really interesting, isn't it, tom? we're looking at iioi— isn't it, tom? we're looking at inn—insi- that in the newsroom. just ioioro— that in the newsroom. just ioioro insi— that in the newsroom. just before just before we came onto air. before just before we came onto linis— before just before we came onto oirlinis is— before just before we came onto oirlinis is o— before just before we came onto air..this is a-that- air. so this is a letter that zoo— air. so this is a letter that

zac goldsmith— air. so this is a letter that zac goldsmith has sent to rishi smok— zac goldsmith has sent to rishi swnok, oni— zac goldsmith has sent to rishi sunak, and it's— zac goldsmith has sent to rishi sunak, and it's the wording of iiis— sunak, and it's the wording of iiis wiion— sunak, and it's the wording of this, which is— sunak, and it's the wording of this, which is very, very interesting. _ this, which is very, very interesting. prime minister , interesting. prime minister, nowing— interesting. prime minister, nowing noon— interesting. prime minister, having been able to get so much iono— having been able to get so much gone—nowe- done previously, i have sirnggioo— done previously, i have struggled-to- done previously, i have struggled to hold the done previously, i have- struggled -to hold the line struggled even to hold the line in roooni— struggled even to hold the line in recent months.— struggled even to hold the line in recent months. the problem is not in recent months. the problem is noi iioi— in recent months. the problem is noi iioi iio— in recent months. the problem is not that the government is nosiiio— not that the government is nosiiio io — not that the government is hostile to the— not that the government is hostile to the environment. it is iioi— hostile to the environment. it is iioi wow— hostile to the environment. it is iioi wow ,— hostile to the environment. it is that you , our— hostile to the environment. it is that you , our prime minister, is that you, our prime minister, are is that you, our prime minister, sinniw— is that you, our prime minister, are simply uninterested and that has are simply uninterested and that nos iriokioo— are simply uninterested and that has trickled down— are simply uninterested and that has trickled down through wniionoii. — has trickled down through whitehall. so— has trickled down through whitehall. so we've just seen. vow— whitehall. so we've just seen. very porsonoi— whitehall. so we've just seen. very personal, isn't it? it is porsonoi. — very personal, isn't it? it is personal. you,— very personal, isn't it? it is personal. /0. 37” ii. “ personal. you, prime minister, but also it's talking again, focusing on the environment . but focusing on the environment. but perhaps, perhaps there was some more to this. and perhaps will be changed. i don't know. i don't know. i've been listening to what john oxley's been saying. i've been i've been thinking about that privileges report . what is boris johnson report. what is boris johnson thinking this ? what might thinking about this? what might bods thinking about this? what might boris mail his daily boris johnson's mail his daily mail column this afternoon mean when it's published indeed for tomorrow's paper what might that be saying to very very interesting i'm looking forward to reading that but do let us know what you think at home. what do you of what do you make of zac goldsmith's_ what do you make of zac goldsmith's resignation ? do you

goldsmith's resignation? do you inink— goldsmith's resignation? do you ininklwos— goldsmith's resignation? do you thinklwas about— goldsmith's resignation? do you think was about the think it was about the environment- think it was about the environment do you think environment or do you think inoro-s— environment or do you think inoro-s o— environment or do you think there's a little— environment or do you think there's a little more going on nero?— there's a little more going on here?-course,- there's a little more going on here? course, we're here? and of course, we're ioiking— here? and of course, we're talking it talking about nhs reform. is it onowgno— talking about nhs reform. is it onowgno-ii— talking about nhs reform. is it enough?-it have- talking about nhs reform. is it enough? it have happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilongi? it have happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time it have happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time ago it have happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time ago ? have happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time ago ? let/e happened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time ago ? let usiappened talking about nhs reform. is it eilong time ago ? let us know1ed a long time ago? let us know wnoi— a long time ago? let us know wnoi wow— a long time ago? let us know what you think. _ a long time ago? let us know what you think. but of course, ino— what you think. but of course, no none— what you think. but of course, the phone hacking trial brought oiowi— the phone hacking trial brought about-prince— the phone hacking trial brought about prince harry and other about by prince harry and other ooioiriiios— about by prince harry and other celebrities against— about by prince harry and other celebrities against the mirror group— celebrities against the mirror group newspapers will be roooning— group newspapers will be reaching-final- group newspapers will be reaching final conclusions reaching its final conclusions iooow— reaching its final conclusions iooow .— reaching its final conclusions iooow . ino— reaching its final conclusions today . the lawsuit alleges today. the lawsuit alleges wniowiwi— today. the lawsuit alleges unlawful information gathering noiwoon— unlawful information gathering between 1996— unlawful information gathering between 1996 and 2011, claiming nirror— between 1996 and 2011, claiming nirror group— between 1996 and 2011, claiming mirror group journalists used noinoos— mirror group journalists used methods like— mirror group journalists used methods like phone hacking and onpiowing— methods like phone hacking and employing private investigators for employing private investigators ior wniowiwi— employing private investigators for unlawful activities. but wnoi— for unlawful activities. but wnoi noos— for unlawful activities. but what does this— for unlawful activities. but what does this all- for unlawful activities. but what does this all mean? what are we actually going to hear today? let's speak to cameron walker , gb news royal walker, gb news royal correspondent , for the very correspondent, for the very latest. so cameron, of course, that testimony from prince harry, it feels like quite a long time ago now. that's all been leading up to this moment. what are we going to hear ? what are we going to hear? yeah, certainly was , tom. and it yeah, certainly was, tom. and it o ironw— yeah, certainly was, tom. and it was a pretty dramatic testimony. kno— was a pretty dramatic testimony. kno nrinoo— was a pretty dramatic testimony. and prince harry— was a pretty dramatic testimony. and prince harry became the ini— and prince harry became the iirsi snio— and prince harry became the first senior member of the royal ioniiw— first senior member of the royal ioniiw sio—

first senior member of the royal family since the— first senior member of the royal family since the 19th century to gnwsiooiiw— family since the 19th century to physically appear— family since the 19th century to physically appear in court as a wiinoss— physically appear in court as a wiinoss. kno— physically appear in court as a witness. and he— physically appear in court as a witness. and he spent two days nore— witness. and he spent two days noro oi— witness. and he spent two days noro oi ino— witness. and he spent two days here at the beginning of the nonin— here at the beginning of the nonin in— here at the beginning of the month in front— here at the beginning of the month in front of the world's noiio— month in front of the world's mung, iooing— month in front of the world's media, being forensically okoninoo— media, being forensically examined by— media, being forensically examined by a barrister who gnosiionoo— examined by a barrister who questioned every detail of his oiiogoiions— questioned every detail of his allegations against mirror group newsoerpgs— allegations against mirror group newsoerggs wno — allegations against mirror group newspapers, who he accuses of wniowiwi— newspapers, who he accuses of unlawful information gathering. so unlawful information gathering. so nnone— unlawful information gathering. so phone hacking, so—called niogging— so phone hacking, so—called buggng, ine— so phone hacking, so—called blagging, the use of deception to blagging, the use of deception io goin— blagging, the use of deception io goin griwoie— blagging, the use of deception to gain private information and the to gain private information and no use— to gain private information and no os— to gain private information and no os wow— to gain private information and the use, as you said, tom, of nriwoie— the use, as you said, tom, of private investigators to obtain wniowiwi— private investigators to obtain unlawful information on iowiwiiw— unlawful information on lawfully. now, in prince harry's wiiness— lawfully. now, in prince harry's witness statement, he said that some journalists— witness statement, he said that some journalists had blood on ineir— some journalists had blood on ineir wring— some journalists had blood on their typing finger. some journalists had blood on their typing finger . as the duke their typing finger. as the duke seems convinced— their typing finger. as the duke seems convinced in his testimony inoi— seems convinced in his testimony inoi ine— seems convinced in his testimony that the information obtained in order— that the information obtained in order io— that the information obtained in order to write— that the information obtained in order to write unfavourable oriioies— order to write unfavourable articles about— order to write unfavourable articles about him was obtained wniowiwiiw— articles about him was obtained unlawfully. but— articles about him was obtained unlawfully. but under cross—examination by mr andrew oeen— cross—examination by mr andrew oeen kc,— cross—examination by mr andrew oeen ko, wno— cross—examination by mr andrew green, kc, who represents mirror group— green, kc, who represents mirror orong newsgopers— green, kc, who represents mirror group newspapers , he put it to group newspapers, he put it to nrinoe— group newspapers, he put it to nrinoe norw— group newspapers, he put it to prince harry that— group newspapers, he put it to prince harry that actually a lot of prince harry that actually a lot oi ine— prince harry that actually a lot of the information he's alleging was of the information he's alleging oiioineo— of the information he's alleging was obtained unlawfully was oireoow— was obtained unlawfully was oireoowline— was obtained unlawfully was already the public domain, already in the public domain, eiiner— already in the public domain, either through— already in the public domain,

either through other publications, publishing the information— publications, publishing the information first or in some cases even palace press offices or nwokingnon— cases even palace press offices or buckingham palace spokespeople, putting the information— spokespeople, putting the information out there in the nwiiio— information out there in the public domain. _ information out there in the public domain. he also pointed out public domain. he also pointed owi io— public domain. he also pointed owi io wnoi— public domain. he also pointed out to what what— public domain. he also pointed out to what what mr andrew seen— out to what what mr andrew oeen ko— out to what what mr andrew green, kc, described as lack of neo— green, kc, described as lack of direct evidence— green, kc, described as lack of direct evidence ._ green, kc, described as lack of direct evidence . but prince direct evidence. but prince worry,— direct evidence. but prince norrw in— direct evidence. but prince harry, in response to that , said harry, in response to that, said inoi— harry, in response to that, said inoi o— harry, in response to that, said inoi o ioi— harry, in response to that, said inoi o ioi oi— harry, in response to that, said that a lot of that— harry, in response to that, said that a lot of that direct ewioenoe— that a lot of that direct evidence had- that a lot of that direct evidence had been destroyed, in his evidence had been destroyed, in nis wiew— evidence had been destroyed, in nis owe— evidence had been destroyed, in his view, due to— evidence had been destroyed, in his view, due to the use of oiiegeo— his view, due to the use of alleged birth— his view, due to the use of alleged birth burner phones. but this alleged birth burner phones. but one week— alleged birth burner phones. but one week is— alleged birth burner phones. but this week is all— alleged birth burner phones. but this week is all about the oiosing— this week is all about the closing arguments and mirror orown— closing arguments and mirror group newspapers has already paid-— group newspapers has already noio. kno— group newspapers has already paid. and that's— group newspapers has already paid. and that's this is what paid. and that's this is what no— paid. and that's this is what no nr— paid. and that's this is what the mr andrew— paid. and that's this is what the mr andrew green kc said in his the mr andrew green kc said in nis oiosing— the mr andrew green kc said in his closing arguments yesterday. inew-we— his closing arguments yesterday. inew-we oireoow— his closing arguments yesterday. they've already paid more than iioo— they've already paid more than me niiiion— they've already paid more than £100 million in— they've already paid more than £100 million in compensation to wnoi— £100 million in compensation to wnoi ne— £100 million in compensation to what he described— £100 million in compensation to what he described as genuine wioiin— what he described as genuine victim claims— what he described as genuine victim claims of— what he described as genuine victim claims of unlawful information— victim claims of unlawful information gathering who had oireoi— information gathering who had direct evidence.— information gathering who had direct evidence. now mirror group— direct evidence. now mirror group newspapers have said that nrinoe— group newspapers have said that nrinoe norw— group newspapers have said that nrinoe norrw is— group newspapers have said that prince harry is entitled to £500 of compensation _ prince harry is entitled to £500 of compensation ._ prince harry is entitled to £500 of compensation . that's due to of compensation. that's due to oriioie— of compensation. that's due to one article written— of compensation. that's due to one article written with wniowiwi— one article written with unlawful information back in zooe. — unlawful information back in zooe. kno— unlawful information back in 2004. and he— unlawful information back in 2004. and he said the latest

oi— 2004. and he said the latest wave of litigation from prince norw— wave of litigation from prince norrw oni— wave of litigation from prince norrw one no— wave of litigation from prince harry and the other well known iigwres— harry and the other well known iignres wno— harry and the other well known figures who are _ harry and the other well known figures who are suing mirror orown— figures who are suing mirror group newspapers in this case gone— group newspapers in this case was done because— group newspapers in this case was done because they are being ioii— was done because they are being ioio by— was done because they are being ioio by ineir— was done because they are being told by their association, by ineir— told by their association, by their associates— told by their association, by their associates that they may nowe — their associates that they may nowe o— their associates that they may nowe o oioin — their associates that they may have a claim and— their associates that they may have a claim and that when they ooniooieo— have a claim and that when they contacted solicitors,— have a claim and that when they contacted solicitors, the solicitors— contacted solicitors, the solicitors and - contacted solicitors, the solicitors and lawyers actively enoowrogeo— solicitors and lawyers actively encouraged them _ solicitors and lawyers actively encouraged them to pursue the nirror— encouraged them to pursue the nirror group— encouraged them to pursue the mirror group newspapers. well oowio— mirror group newspapers. well david sherborne,_ mirror group newspapers. well david sherborne, kc, who's regreseniing— david sherborne, kc, who's representing prince harry, he soio— representing prince harry, he soio inoi— representing prince harry, he said that harry— representing prince harry, he said that harry is a prime iorgei— said that harry is a prime iorgei ior— said that harry is a prime target for tabloid journalism , target for tabloid journalism, ioiioio— target for tabloid journalism, tabloid journalists even. and he soio— tabloid journalists even. and he soio inoi— tabloid journalists even. and he soio inoi ine— tabloid journalists even. and he said that the findings made by nrewiows— said that the findings made by previous litigation against nirror— previous litigation against mirror group— previous litigation against mirror group newspapers back in zon— mirror group newspapers back in sou, wnion— mirror group newspapers back in 2015, which included a former nirror— 2015, which included a former nirror groun— 2015, which included a former mirror group newspaper editor nowing— mirror group newspaper editor nowing nrinoe— mirror group newspaper editor having prince harry's phone numeri— having prince harry's phone nwrneri ini— having prince harry's phone number, but also being one of the number, but also being one of no iiwe— number, but also being one of the five most— number, but also being one of the five most prolific uses users even of— the five most prolific uses users even of phone hacking neinoos— users even of phone hacking methods means— users even of phone hacking methods means that in this case, it's implausible— methods means that in this case, it's implausible ,— methods means that in this case, it's implausible , according to it's implausible, according to nowi— it's implausible, according to david sherborne, that prince norw— david sherborne, that prince norrw os— david sherborne, that prince norrw noi— david sherborne, that prince harry was not a— david sherborne, that prince harry was not a victim of wniowiwi— harry was not a victim of unlawful information gathering. so unlawful information gathering. so oieoriw— unlawful information gathering. so oieoriw ,— unlawful information gathering. so clearly , two— unlawful information gathering. so clearly , two sides to this so clearly, two sides to this one— so clearly, two sides to this one no— so clearly, two sides to this and the case— so clearly, two sides to this and the case is— so clearly, two sides to this and the case is due to wrap up

iooow— and the case is due to wrap up iooow nere— and the case is due to wrap up iooow nere oi— and the case is due to wrap up today here at the— and the case is due to wrap up today here at the high court in oeniroi— today here at the high court in central london.— today here at the high court in central london. mrjustice , mr central london. mrjustice, mr insiioe— central london. mrjustice, mr justice fancourt,_ central london. mrjustice, mr justice fancourt, who is the judge— justice fancourt, who is the ridge in— justice fancourt, who is the ridge in inis— justice fancourt, who is the judge in this case, is due to noke— judge in this case, is due to noke o— judge in this case, is due to make a ruling— judge in this case, is due to make a ruling at- judge in this case, is due to make a ruling at a later date . make a ruling at a later date. oomeron— make a ruling at a later date. cameron walker,— make a ruling at a later date. cameron walker, thank- make a ruling at a later date. cameron walker, thank you so much for bringing us up to date there. thank you. well , let's there. thank you. well, let's let's there. thank you. well, let's iei-s iei-s— there. thank you. well, let's let's let's talk— there. thank you. well, let's let's let's talk some- well, let's let's let's talk some more about oi— let's let's talk some more about oi inese— let's let's talk some more about some of these emails that have been— some of these emails that have been rwsning— some of these emails that have been rushing in— some of these emails that have been rushing in because there is a been rushing in because there is o iii— been rushing in because there is o iii oi— been rushing in because there is o iii oi o— been rushing in because there is o iii oi o rowoi— been rushing in because there is a bit of a royal angle to this, ioo. — a bit of a royal angle to this, ioo. irnie— a bit of a royal angle to this, too. ernie wrote— a bit of a royal angle to this, too. ernie wrote in to me, if you— too. ernie wrote in to me, if you migni— too. ernie wrote in to me, if you might remember, at the top of you might remember, at the top oi ine— you might remember, at the top oi ine snow— you might remember, at the top of the show, we _ you might remember, at the top of the show, we spoke a bit oiowi— of the show, we spoke a bit oiowi now— of the show, we spoke a bit about how the— of the show, we spoke a bit about how the elizabeth line was was about how the elizabeth line was niookeo— about how the elizabeth line was was blocked yesterday, was sorted— was blocked yesterday, was sioggeo ior— was blocked yesterday, was sioggeo ior o— was blocked yesterday, was stopped for a very long an hour neoowse— stopped for a very long an hour because there's— stopped for a very long an hour because there's one swan noggeneo— because there's one swan happened io— because there's one swan happened to be on the tracks. now: _ happened to be on the tracks. now, i— happened to be on the tracks. now, i ion-i— happened to be on the tracks. now, i don't think that's necessarily— now, i don't think that's necessarily a— now, i don't think that's necessarily a good reason to sior— necessarily a good reason to sior o— necessarily a good reason to sior o iii— necessarily a good reason to stop a £15 billion railway. lots of stop a £15 billion railway. lots oi reorie— stop a £15 billion railway. lots of people disagree with me. nieose— of people disagree with me. ineose oio— of people disagree with me. please do get— of people disagree with me. please do get in— of people disagree with me. please do get in touch . please do get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com but ernie has wriiien— vaiews@gbnews.com but ernie has wriiien in— vaiews@gbnews.com but ernie has wriiien in io— vaiews@gbnews.com but ernie has wriiien in io sow— vaiews@gbnews.com but ernie has written in to say tom swan's are nroieoieo— written in to say tom swan's are groieoieo oni— written in to say tom swan's are protected and belong to the king new— protected and belong to the king wen, wnoi— protected and belong to the king wen, wnoi o— protected and belong to the king well, what a royal— protected and belong to the king well, what a royal segway . well, what a royal segway. wen,— well, what a royal segway. weii. ernie.— well, what a royal segway. well, ernie, let— well, what a royal segway. well, ernie, let me- well, what a royal segway. well, ernie, let me tell- well, what a royal segway. well, ernie, let me tell you something because i was googling this this morning. it's only three wild swans that belong to

the king. so we're not actually sure if this one was a wild one or not. but it certainly made its elizabeth line its way onto the elizabeth line track. are protected by track. and they are protected by the can an the king. so you can face an unlimited fine even in unlimited fine and even time in prison if you hurt a swan. so i, i actually . why the elizabeth i actually. why the elizabeth elizabeth line didn't do anything? i king would anything? i think the king would woni— anything? i think the king would woni-roiiwow— anything? i think the king would want-railway-was- want the railway that was oeoiooieo — want the railway that was dedicated mother for her dedicated to his mother for her to dedicated to his mother for her io ooniinwe— dedicated to his mother for her to continue to— dedicated to his mother for her to continue to run— dedicated to his mother for her to continue to run . to continue to continue to run. to continue to continue to run. to continue io — to continue to run. to continue io wen,— to continue to run. to continue to run. well, i— to continue to run. to continue to run. well, i think- to continue to run. to continue to run. wc“ “o: to continue to run. to continue to run. wc“ “4 at; to run. well, i think we are a nafion to run. well, i think we are a nation of animal lovers and they are beautiful creatures . and i are beautiful creatures. and i can understand why you had to leave it alone, although i would say you need to be very good at chewing. chewing, perhaps, remors— chewing. chewing, perhaps, oernoginowno- chewing. chewing, perhaps,- perhaps.found - ground perhaps we found a middle ground nero.— perhaps we found a middle ground nere.|nowe— perhaps we found a middle ground nere.|nowe o— perhaps we found a middle ground here.ihave a feeling— perhaps we found a middle ground here. have a feeling looking here. i have a feeling looking at here. i have a feeling looking oi-inese— here. i have a feeling looking oi-inese-i- here. i have a feeling looking at-these-i have here. i have a feeling looking. at-these-i have a at all of these emails, i have a ieeiing— at all of these emails, i have a ieeiing-iniok— at all of these emails, i have a feeling-inboxlmore- feeling the inbox is more on wow— feeling the inbox is more on your skie— feeling the inbox is more on your side-mine.- feeling the inbox is more on your side mine. no , feeling the inbox is more on. your side-mine.-no , i your side than mine. oh, no, i inink— your side than mine. oh, no, i inink we— your side than mine. oh, no, i inink we-we— your side than mine. oh, no, i think we-we are- your side than mine. oh, no, i think we we are perhaps think we are. we are perhaps a wow— think we are. we are perhaps a your inongnise— think we are. we are perhaps a your thoughts? _ think we are. we are perhaps a your thoughts? “0g think we are. we are perhaps a your thoughts? “car : your thoughts? they should have run i just your thoughts? they should have run—i just think- run it over. yeah, i just think moi— run it over. yeah, i just think inoi i— run it over. yeah, i just think inoi i meon— run it over. yeah, i just think that i mean, ideally,- “ c yeah, ijust think that i mean, ideally, ideally snoeing— that i mean, ideally, ideally snoeing-wow- that i mean, ideally, ideally shoeing you don't shoeing it ideally you don't woni— shoeing it ideally you don't want-clean- shoeing it ideally you don't want-clean up- shoeing it ideally you don't want clean up job, right want a clean clean up job, right . nui— want a clean clean up job, right . iii no— want a clean clean up job, right . nwi i— want a clean clean up job, right . but no, i mean,— want a clean clean up job, right . but no, i mean, i— want a clean clean up job, right . but no, i mean, ijust. ijust mink— . but no, i mean, ijust. ijust mm is— . but no, i mean, ijust. ijust think it's ridiculous. they swreiw— think it's ridiculous. they surely would— think it's ridiculous. they surely would be a way to get inese— surely would be a way to get these trains— surely would be a way to get these trains running to not swsneoi. — these trains running to not snsgeoi. ii-s—

these trains running to not suspect. it's supposed to be a regwior— suspect. it's supposed to be a regular service— suspect. it's supposed to be a regular service ._ suspect. it's supposed to be a regular service . yeah. and to regular service. yeah. and to nowe— regular service. yeah. and to havelsuspended- regular service. yeah. and to have suspended for hour have it suspended for an hour in the have it suspended for an hour in ine-oiiw— have it suspended for an hour in ine-oiiw in— have it suspended for an hour in the-city in this- have it suspended for an hour in the-city in this part- have it suspended for an hour in the city in this part of the biggest city in this part of the biggest city in this part of me worio. — the biggest city in this part of me worio. i— the biggest city in this part of the world. i mean, i would oesnoir. — the world. i mean, i would oesgoir. i— the world. i mean, i would despair. i mean,- the world. i mean, i would despair. “ c despair. i mean, the elizabeth line plagued line has been plagued with issues, is issues, hasn't it? so this is just the latest in a long line. but anyway, let us know you but anyway, let us know what you make with us. lots make and do. stay with us. lots more including the most more to come, including the most radical history. radical reform in nhs history. that's . hello, alex that's after this. hello, alex neokin— that's after this. hello, alex i>eokin nere— that's after this. hello, alex deakin here with— that's after this. hello, alex deakin here with your- hello, alex deakin here with your latest weoiner— deakin here with your latest weather update— deakin here with your latest weather update from the met oiiioe— weather update from the met eiiioe ior— weather update from the met office for gb— weather update from the met office for gb news. pretty drab out office for gb news. pretty drab owi mere— office for gb news. pretty drab out there this— office for gb news. pretty drab out there this friday. lots of oiowo — out there this friday. lots of cloud around— out there this friday. lots of cloud around most places fairly oomp— cloud around most places fairly oomn os— cloud around most places fairly oomg os weii— cloud around most places fairly oomg os weii ,— cloud around most places fairly damp as well, and it's a bit oooier— damp as well, and it's a bit cooler than— damp as well, and it's a bit cooler than it— damp as well, and it's a bit cooler than it has been, oerioiniw— cooler than it has been, certainly compared to the rest of certainly compared to the rest oi ine— certainly compared to the rest oi ine momm— certainly compared to the rest of the month. this set of weoiner— of the month. this set of weather fronts - of the month. this set of weather fronts have been sieooiiw— weather fronts have been steadily moving in through the nigni— steadily moving in through the nigni oni— steadily moving in through the night and they're bringing the oiowo— night and they're bringing the oiowo oni— night and they're bringing the cloud and the— night and they're bringing the cloud and the outbreaks of rain oni— cloud and the outbreaks of rain one—oi— cloud and the outbreaks of rain and—air tucked- cloud and the outbreaks of rain and—air tucked in. and quite mild air tucked in nero.— and quite mild air tucked in nere. so— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite a— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite a humid feel . but here. so quite a humid feel. but wiin— here. so quite a humid feel. but wiin-roin— here. so quite a humid feel. but with-rain and— here. so quite a humid feel. but with rain and drizzle , with the rain and drizzle, temperatures— with the rain and drizzle, temperatures suppressed down neiow— temperatures suppressed down neiow oweroeg— temperatures suppressed down below average and certainly iower— below average and certainly iower inon— below average and certainly lower than they— below average and certainly lower than they have been for muon— lower than they have been for mwon oi— lower than they have been for mwon oi inne— lower than they have been for much of june. parts of east angiio— much of june. parts of east kngiio siiii— much of june. parts of east anglia still reasonably bright. but anglia still reasonably bright. nwi—wiii- anglia still reasonably bright. but—will cloud. but even here it will cloud ower—seeingl over, probably not seeing too muon— over, probably not seeing too moon-nero— over, probably not seeing too much-here-later. over, probably not seeing too much here later on. much rain here until later on. iisewnere— much rain here until later on. elsewhere,-or_ much rain here until later on. elsewhere, or drizzle or elsewhere, rain or drizzle or

insi— elsewhere, rain or drizzle or insi-io— elsewhere, rain or drizzle or insi-io-ono- elsewhere, rain or drizzle or insi-io-ono gol elsewhere, rain or drizzle or- just-to-and go through just tend to come and go through the just tend to come and go through ine-keening— just tend to come and go through the-keeping those- the day, keeping those temperatures in the teens. temperatures in the high teens. but temperatures in the high teens. nwi-ii-s— temperatures in the high teens. nwi-ii-s siiii- temperatures in the high teens. but-it's still quite. but as i said, it's still quite a but as i said, it's still quite o-ieei— but as i said, it's still quite o-ieei in— but as i said, it's still quite a-feel in parts- but as i said, it's still quite a-feel in parts of. but as i said, it's still quite a feel in parts of the a humid feel in parts of the wesi— a humid feel in parts of the wesi in— a humid feel in parts of the west in particular, as we go no— west in particular, as we go inio ine— west in particular, as we go into the weekend. so well that oiowo— into the weekend. so well that oiowo oni— into the weekend. so well that cloud and rain— into the weekend. so well that cloud and rain will continue to oriii— cloud and rain will continue to mm ooross— cloud and rain will continue to drift across most— cloud and rain will continue to drift across most areas through inis— drift across most areas through inis-ono— drift across most areas through this-and start- drift across most areas through this-and start to- drift across most areas through this and start to pull this evening and start to pull owow— this evening and start to pull owow os— this evening and start to pull owow os we go— this evening and start to pull away as we go through the early nos — away as we go through the early hours. generally— away as we go through the early hours. generally though, it's going— hours. generally though, it's going io— hours. generally though, it's going io ne— hours. generally though, it's going io ne on— hours. generally though, it's going to be an overcast night, on— going to be an overcast night, oni— going to be an overcast night, rain and drizzle— going to be an overcast night, rain and drizzle on and off and owning— rain and drizzle on and off and iwrning-nreezw— rain and drizzle on and off and turning breezy around the turning quite breezy around the wee.— turning quite breezy around the wesi.—nigni- turning quite breezy around the wesi.—nigni osl west. a pretty warm night as weii—so- west. a pretty warm night as weii—so in- west. a pretty warm night as well,_so in the. well, particularly so in the eosi.— well, particularly so in the east. temperatures further west sioriing— east. temperatures further west sioriing-owow— east. temperatures further west sioriing-owow o- east. temperatures further west starting away a little starting to dip away a little ioworos— starting to dip away a little towards dawn _ starting to dip away a little towards dawn and that's sign towards dawn and that's a sign of towards dawn and that's a sign oi-ononge— towards dawn and that's a sign oi-ononge os- towards dawn and that's a sign of-change as we- towards dawn and that's a sign of change as we head of a bit of a change as we head inio— of a bit of a change as we head inio ine— of a bit of a change as we head into the weekend. _ of a bit of a change as we head into the weekend. should be a moon— into the weekend. should be a much brighter— into the weekend. should be a much brighter day tomorrow. yes, it'll much brighter day tomorrow. yes, ii-ii—wiin- it'll start pretty cloudy with iwriner— it'll start pretty cloudy with further. and _ it'll start pretty cloudy with further and drizzle. further rain and drizzle. there wiii— further rain and drizzle. there will-showers- further rain and drizzle. therei will-showerslcome will be more showers to come onieiiw— will be more showers to come chiefly-scotland,- will be more showers to come chiefly scotland, some for chiefly over scotland, some for norinern — chiefly over scotland, some for northern england,— chiefly over scotland, some for northern england, the odd one for northern england, the odd one ior—muon- northern england, the odd one ior—moon oi| northern england, the odd one for|south_much ofi northern england, the odd one for south the much of northern england, the odd one for south the country, :h of northern england, the odd one for south the country, though the south of the country, though dry_uii_ the south of the country, though orw—wn-swnnwl dry brightening up with sunny sneiis— dry brightening up with sunny sneiis-gei- dry brightening up with sunny spells, get pretty spells, going to get pretty niwsierw— spells, going to get pretty blustery there. _ spells, going to get pretty blustery there. gusty winds iikeiw— blustery there. gusty winds likely-northern- blustery there. gusty winds likely northern scotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould northern scotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be northern scotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be anorthern scotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be a very ern scotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be a very wetscotland. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be a very wet day.and. blustery there. gusty winds liicould be a very wet day ind. it could be a very wet day in sneiiono— it could be a very wet day in sneiiono .— it could be a very wet day in shetland . temperatures a bit shetland. temperatures a bit nigner— shetland. temperatures a bit higher, particularly with some swnnw— higher, particularly with some sunny over eastern parts sunny spells over eastern parts of sunny spells over eastern parts oi ingiono— sunny spells over eastern parts of england getting back into the low of england getting back into the iow zes— of england getting back into the low 20s through—

of england getting back into the low 20s through saturday ewening. — low 20s through saturday evening. lstays- low 20s through saturday evening. stays very blustery evening. it stays very blustery over-scotland- evening. it stays very blustery over-scotland ,- evening. it stays very blustery over scotland , very over much of scotland, very gusty— over much of scotland, very gnsiw wines— over much of scotland, very gnsiw winds in— over much of scotland, very gusty winds in the far north. immer— gusty winds in the far north. further heavy— gusty winds in the far north. further heavy showers coming in nere— further heavy showers coming in nere os— further heavy showers coming in nere os weii— further heavy showers coming in here as well. elsewhere, again , here as well. elsewhere, again, mosiiw— here as well. elsewhere, again, mosiiw ow— here as well. elsewhere, again, mosiiw dry oni— here as well. elsewhere, again, mosiiw dry ono o— here as well. elsewhere, again, mostly dry and a fresher night to mostly dry and a fresher night io oome— mostly dry and a fresher night io k— mostly dry and a fresher night to come. a fresh— mostly dry and a fresher night to come. a fresh field, bright oni— to come. a fresh field, bright one week— to come. a fresh field, bright ono breezy gow— to come. a fresh field, bright and breezy day for sunday with some - across the - and breezy day for sunday with some across the north some showers across the north oni— some showers across the north one-wen— some showers across the north one-wen windy- some showers across the north and very windy across and again, very windy across sooiiono.— and again, very windy across scotland. goodbye

june. this is britain's newsroom with tom harwood and me , ellie with tom harwood and me, ellie costello. and here's what's ooming— costello. and here's what's ooming no— costello. and here's what's ooming no on— costello. and here's what's coming up on the- and here's what's coming up on the show. happen iooiow— coming up on the show. happen iooow. ine— coming up on the show. happen today. the government unveils its today. the government unveils iis iong— today. the government unveils its long awaited— today. the government unveils its long awaited nhs workforce nions— its long awaited nhs workforce nions. nui— its long awaited nhs workforce plans. but what— its long awaited nhs workforce plans. but what are in these nions— plans. but what are in these nions e— plans. but what are in these pions iono— plans. but what are in these plans ? and will— plans. but what are in these plans ? and will they work ? plans? and will they work? now— plans? and will they work? we-ii nowe— plans? and will they work? we'll have the— plans? and will they work? we'll have the latest- plans? and will they work? we'll have the latest as number 10 is set to appeal and continue its battle over the rwanda deportees actions following yesterday's ruling by the courts that they are unlawful . and more that they are unlawful. and more tory turmoil that they are unlawful. and more tory inrmoii os— that they are unlawful. and more tory turmoil as zac— 040; c. and more tory turmoil as zac goldsmith sensationally— tory turmoil as zac goldsmith sensationally quits the government- sensationally quits the government saying the prime ninisier— government saying the prime minister isn't— government saying the prime minister isn't interested in the eninomeni— minister isn't interested in the environment. _ minister isn't interested in the environment. 30 “g 00: minister isn't interested in the environment . 30 “g 00: “g environment. rioting and looting continued across france last night following the killing of a teenagerin night following the killing of a teenager in paris earlier this week. we'll go live to the french . french. capital yeah, lots french. capital- . yeah, lots going on french. capital— . yeah, lots going on in rrenon. oopiioi— - yeah, lots going on in paris,

esgeoioiiw— especially as macron's been missing— especially as macron's been missing-action- especially as macron's been missing action as he attended missing in action as he attended an missing in action as he attended on iiion— missing in action as he attended on iiion ionn— missing in action as he attended an elton john concert. get in iowon— an elton john concert. get in iowon wim— an elton john concert. get in touch with your— an elton john concert. get in touch with your views on that gb views— touch with your views on that gb views oi— touch with your views on that gb views at cbnnews.com . and views at cbnnews.com. and remember, this— views at cbnnews.com. and remember, this is the first irioow— remember, this is the first friday edition— remember, this is the first friday edition of britain's newsroom. esther and phil will be newsroom. esther and phil will ne nook— newsroom. esther and phil will ne nook wiin— newsroom. esther and phil will be back with you— newsroom. esther and phil will be back with you at 10 am. tomorrow for— be back with you at 10 am. tomorrow for a _ be back with you at 10 am. tomorrow for a new show as well. so tomorrow for a new show as well. so oii— tomorrow for a new show as well. so oii noggening— tomorrow for a new show as well. so all happening here on gb news— so all happening here on gb news ini— so all happening here on gb news, but we'll— so all happening here on gb news, but we'll get right with the news, but we'll get right with me ooiion— news, but we'll get right with the action after— news, but we'll get right with the action after the headlines wiin— the action after the headlines with rihanna— the action after the headlines with rihanna ._ the action after the headlines with rihanna . _ the action after the headlines with rihanna . c: “g c with rihanna. good morning. it's 10:01. your top stories from the newsroom . the government's newsroom. the government's launching what's being described as the most radical modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history. modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history . ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary of the health service , the 15 year plan will service, the 15 year plan will aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff in england with £2.4 billion worth of funding over five years. it focuses on

retaining and training staff as well as adopting advanced technologies like ai. steve barclay told us reform like this has been a long time coming . has been a long time coming. it's so we can get those waiting iisis— it's so we can get those waiting iisis gown— it's so we can get those waiting iisis down so— it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we— it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we can ensure that we gei— lists down so we can ensure that we gei ine— lists down so we can ensure that we get the treatment , the extra we get the treatment, the extra oogooiiw— we get the treatment, the extra oogooiiw inio— we get the treatment, the extra capacity into the— we get the treatment, the extra capacity into the system . but capacity into the system. but wnoi— capacity into the system. but wnoi iooow— capacity into the system. but wnoi iooow is— capacity into the system. but what today is also about it is responding— what today is also about it is responding io— what today is also about it is responding to something the nhs has responding to something the nhs nos oskeo— responding to something the nhs nos oskeo ior— responding to something the nhs has asked for many years , which has asked for many years, which is io— has asked for many years, which is io nowe— has asked for many years, which is io nowe o— has asked for many years, which is to have a long— has asked for many years, which is to have a long term plan. it wiii— is to have a long term plan. it wiii ne— is to have a long term plan. it will be iterative— is to have a long term plan. it will be iterative ._ is to have a long term plan. it will be iterative . it's not will be iterative. it's not a oii— will be iterative. it's not a one off. we'll— will be iterative. it's not a one off. we'll keep coming back to one off. we'll keep coming back io ii— one off. we'll keep coming back io ii oni— one off. we'll keep coming back to it and working— one off. we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in terms of to it and working on it in terms oi os— to it and working on it in terms oi os ine— to it and working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves, the neoiin— of as the modelling evolves, the health secretary— of as the modelling evolves, the health secretary steve barclay, sgeoking— health secretary steve barclay, speaking there. _ health secretary steve barclay, speaking there. will health secretary steve barclay, speaking there. willa speaking there. well meanwhile, shadow health secretary wes streeting says it's taken too long to implement the measures . long to implement the measures. why do we need the biggest egomion— why do we need the biggest geonsion oi— why do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in nisiorwe— expansion of nhs staff in nisiorwe why— expansion of nhs staff in history? why do we have such an wnoersioiieo— history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs?— history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs? it's because for understaffed nhs? it's because ior ine— understaffed nhs? it's because ior ine iosi— understaffed nhs? it's because for the last 13— understaffed nhs? it's because for the last 13 years we've not noo— for the last 13 years we've not me o— for the last 13 years we've not had a workforce— for the last 13 years we've not had a workforce plan . it is the had a workforce plan. it is the niggesi— had a workforce plan. it is the biggest expansion since the last ioiiow—

biggest expansion since the last labour government, which oeiiwereo— labour government, which delivered 75,000 more nurses . delivered 75,000 more nurses. kno— delivered 75,000 more nurses. kno oweoe— delivered 75,000 more nurses. and 44,000 more— delivered 75,000 more nurses. and 44,000 more doctors as lord nonnoii— and 44,000 more doctors as lord dannatt goldsmith _ and 44,000 more doctors as lord dannatt goldsmith has resigned irom— dannatt goldsmith has resigned from government— dannatt goldsmith has resigned from government a day after the ion— from government a day after the tory minisier— from government a day after the tory minister was— from government a day after the tory minister was named in a nriwiieges— tory minister was named in a privileges committee report for inieriering— privileges committee report for interfering and— privileges committee report for interfering and interfering in rooms— interfering and interfering in boris johnson's— interfering and interfering in boris johnson's partygate probe . in— boris johnson's partygate probe . in nis— boris johnson's partygate probe . in his resignation- boris johnson's partygate probe . in his resignation letter, lord goldsmith accused the government of apathy on climate change, saying it made his role as minister for international environment untenable . he also environment untenable. he also claims prime minister rishi sunakis claims prime minister rishi sunak is uninterested in the environment . households sunak is uninterested in the environment. households in the uk will pay less for their gas and electricity from tomorrow , and electricity from tomorrow, but bills will remain higher than they were before the energy crisis . as a new price cap set crisis. as a new price cap set by the regulator, ofgem comes into effect this weekend. it will see households with typical energy usage pay £2,074. that's a fall of £426 a year. however bills will remain a lot higher

than they were two years ago. £800 more expensive. that's almost . double the duke of almost. double the duke of sussex is lawsuit against mirror group newspapers over allegations of phone hacking is due to conclude today . the trial due to conclude today. the trial is over alleged unlawful lawful information gathering between 1996 and 2011. the mirror group denies any wrongdoing . and oscar denies any wrongdoing. and oscar winning actor kevin spacey faces 12 charges of sex offences against four men. the 63 year old arrived at southwark crown court this morning for a four week trial. the alleged offences took place between 2001 and 2013, when mr spacey denies all of the charges against him . in of the charges against him. in france. president emmanuel macron is holding a second crisis meeting following the worst night of rioting yet following the police shooting of a teenager . following the police shooting of a teenager. more than 650 people were arrested and 40,000

officers deployed as clashes continued for a third night. with the violence spreading to other cities as well as paris across the country , hundreds of across the country, hundreds of police were injured by protesters . and 16 million brits protesters. and 16 million brits will be able to live and work in australia as the age for working houday australia as the age for working holiday visas has raised tomorrow the limit will increase from 30 to 35. the visa duration will also be extended from 2 to 3 years without the need for consecutive stays or farm work. the free trade agreement between the two countries enables similar arrangements for australians to work and travel here in the uk and the king will receive a special sword named the elizabeth when he visits edinburgh next week. king charles will be presented with the sword before the national service of thanksgiving at saint giles's cathedral on the 5th of july. the elizabeth, inspired by thistles and scotland's

landscape, replaces the deteriorating sword of state. this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back over to tom and . it's back over to tom and. ellie thanks, rhiannon and good . thanks, rhiannon and good morning io— i thanks, rhiannon and good. morning io—ono morning to everyone watching and iisiening. — morning to everyone watching and iisiening. -o— morning to everyone watching and listening.-a new- listening. this is a new nriioin-s— listening. this is a new britain's—onl listening. this is a newi britain's—on a listening. this is a new- britain's_on a friday britain's newsroom on a friday day— britain's newsroom on a friday iow wiin— britain's newsroom on a friday oow wiin me— britain's newsroom on a friday day with me and— britain's newsroom on a friday day with me and tom. c day with me and tom. so it's so nice— day with me and tom. so it's so io— day with me and tom. so it's so is ie— day with me and tom. so it's so nice to be with— day with me and tom. so it's so nice to be with you, ellie. i know. it's so good to be with wow. — know. it's so good to be with wow. noi— know. it's so good to be with won. nwi oiso— know. it's so good to be with you. but also, it's- know. it's so good to be with you. c 50“ know. it's so good to be with you. c 5.0“ c you. but also, it's such a it's such a big news day to be kicking off this show on. we've got to about got so much to talk about throughout the next hour. we'll got so much to talk about thrkicking the next hour. we'll got so much to talk about thrkicking off! next hour. we'll got so much to talk about thr kicking off witht hour. we'll got so much to talk about thrkicking off with alour. we'll got so much to talk about thrkicking off with a bit'. we'll got so much to talk about thrkicking off with a bit oer'll be kicking off with a bit of rwanda of course, the fallout from yesterday's bombshell court decision this on decision and where this goes on next. embarrassing next. it's quite embarrassing for really, for the government, really, isn't we're going isn't it? of course, we're going to isn't it? of course, we're going io ne— isn't it? of course, we're going io ne ioiking— isn't it? of course, we're going to be talking about— c c7’ of course, we're going to be talking about lord goldsmith— to be talking about lord- goldsmith—resigned goldsmith as well. he resigned insi— goldsmith as well. he resigned insi-we— goldsmith as well. he resigned insi-we oome— goldsmith as well. he resigned just-we came on- goldsmith as well. he resigned just we came on air, just before we came on air, wnion— just before we came on air, wnionlo— just before we came on air, which-a lovely- just before we came on air, which a lovely start to our which is a lovely start to our iirsi— which is a lovely start to our iirsi snow— which is a lovely start to our first show together, wasn't it

so oi— first show together, wasn't it so nice of him— first show together, wasn't it so nice of him have to have so nice of him to have to have iimeo— so nice of him to have to have iimeo nis— so nice of him to have to have timed his perhaps— so nice of him to have to have timed his perhaps might timed his perhaps some might iorm— timed his perhaps some might ormon—- form it as an attack on government- form it as an attack on government just just to kick off wiin— government just just to kick off wiin inis— government just just to kick off with this programme. o” 00. with this programme. of course, nes— with this programme. of course, ne-s o— with this programme. of course, ne-s o iowoi— with this programme. of course, he's a loyal viewer and listener, also the listener, no doubt. but also the nhs reforms. that's that's the government's big, big policy announcement today. can we plug this 100,000 worker gap in the nhs expected to explode to a 300,000 worker gap in the nhs? could this be the plan to solve that problem? it needs to be iikeo. — that problem? it needs to be iikeo. is— that problem? it needs to be fixed. is this— that problem? it needs to be fixed. is this the— that problem? it needs to be fixed. is this the way- 7 it needs to be fixed. is this the way to fix in— fixed. is this the way to fix in ioi— fixed. is this the way to fix in iei ns— fixed. is this the way to fix it? let us know. - fixed. is this the way to fix it? let us know. just share a iew— it? let us know. just share a iew oi— it? let us know. just share a iew oi wow— it? let us know. just share a few of your views. linda from orowioro — few of your views. linda from orowioro is— few of your views. linda from crawford is talking about zac ooiosmiin— crawford is talking about zac goldsmith this— crawford is talking about zac goldsmith this morning saying, oooi— goldsmith this morning saying, great,.resigned._ great, he resigned. we the nriiisn— great, he resigned. we the british public— great, he resigned. we the british public want to be british public don't want to be numeri— british public don't want to be number-in— british public don't want to be number-in net— british public don't want to be number in net zero in the number one in net zero in the worio. — number one in net zero in the worio. kno— number one in net zero in the world. and maria— number one in net zero in the world. and maria has- number one in net zero in the world. ' “i: number one in net zero in the world. “i: world. and maria has written to in say, is it just me or has anyone else picked up similar parallels between what's happening donald in happening with donald trump in the nigel farage in the the usa and nigel farage in the uk? politically, this is of course referring to the huge news yesterday that nigel farage has been banned from having a bank account in this country seemingly , maria is not happy

seemingly, maria is not happy about that and is asking is the left trying to create scenarios where them will be where neither of them will be able to stand politically? perhaps talking perhaps we'll be talking a little about that later on. little bit about that later on. but get to this enormous but let's get to this enormous story now, this ongoing legal battle over the government's flagship immigration policy. yep, it's set to reach new neignis— yep, it's set to reach new heights, isn't— yep, it's set to reach new heights, isn't it? well, it comes after— heights, isn't it? well, it comes after downing street insisieo— comes after downing street insisieo ii— comes after downing street insisted it would fight to owerim— insisted it would fight to overturn a ruling that is sending— overturn a ruling that is sending refugees to rwanda was wniowiwi. — sending refugees to rwanda was unlawful. well,— sending refugees to rwanda was unlawful. 3:00“ 0 sending refugees to rwanda was unlawful. 0 unlawful. well, conservative mps have called for a plan b to tackle this small boats crisis . tackle this small boats crisis. that's as the home secretary suella braverman told mps that the appeal court ruling is disappointing for the majority of the british people . well, of the british people. well, we're joined now by- c well, we're joined now by barrister omis— we're joined now by barrister one now— we're joined now by barrister chris daw kc.— we're joined now by barrister chris daw kc. thank you so much for chris daw kc. thank you so much ior ioining— chris daw kc. thank you so much ior ioining ns— chris daw kc. thank you so much for joining us this— chris daw kc. thank you so much for joining us this morning. forjoining us this morning. keoiiw— forjoining us this morning. really reoiiw— forjoining us this morning. really, really good to have you win— really, really good to have you win — really, really good to have you with us. first— really, really good to have you with us. first of— really, really good to have you with us. first of all, i just wonieo— with us. first of all, i just wonieo io— with us. first of all, i just wanted to get— with us. first of all, i just wanted to get your reaction to the wanted to get your reaction to me nome— wanted to get your reaction to the home secretary's comments wesieroow— the home secretary's comments wesieroow .— the home secretary's comments yesterday . speaking to mps, she yesterday. speaking to mps, she soio— yesterday. speaking to mps, she soio inoi— yesterday. speaking to mps, she soio inoi ine— yesterday. speaking to mps, she said that the ruling was disappointing for the majority of disappointing for the majority oi nriiisn— disappointing for the majority of british people . is that what

of british people. is that what you— of british people. is that what wow inink— of british people. is that what you inink e — of british people. is that what you inink e i— of british people. is that what you think ? 00. of british people. is that what you think ? : c of british people. is that what you think ? 00. c 03 of british people. is that what you think ? : c 03 0“ you think? i doubt it very much . if the majority of the british people were aware of the detail of the ruling because what the judges pointed out was that every single person who sent to rwanda is going to cost the taxpayer £170,000, of which £105,000 will be paid to the rwandan government. now, i wonder if your viewers might want to reflect on what we could do with £170,000 rather than giving it to rwanda, a country which is renowned for historical human rights abuses, including the arrests and imprisonment of journalists like yourself , is, i journalists like yourself, is, i suppose, the government might say that we spend £6 million a day on on migrant hotels in this country. and so in comparison , country. and so in comparison, if country. and so in comparison, ii inis— country. and so in comparison, ii inis nos— country. and so in comparison, ii inis nos o— 00. and so in comparison, if this has a deterrent effect, sending— if this has a deterrent effect, even sending a— if this has a deterrent effect, even sending a few people to iowonoo— even sending a few people to kwonoo oni— even sending a few people to rwanda and stop— even sending a few people to rwanda and stop that sort of noiei— rwanda and stop that sort of noiei ioroe— rwanda and stop that sort of hotel farce in— rwanda and stop that sort of hotel farce in this country, it oooie— hotel farce in this country, it oowio soe— hotel farce in this country, it could save money in the long run . wooin— could save money in the long run . weii. ii— could save money in the long run . well, it can't.— could save money in the long run . well, it can't. it's— could save money in the long run . well, it can't. it's nonsense . i'll tell you what needs to happen. it's very straightforward. we just need to

spend a lot less than that per person to process people through the asylum claim system as quickly as possible. and in my view, if we had adequate resource in asylum system, resource in our asylum system, we have all of these cases we could have all of these cases deau we could have all of these cases dealt with within 28 days, including for appeal. including time for an appeal. and if anyone was found not to be entering the country as a refugee , they would be sent back refugee, they would be sent back where came i think where they came from. i think that's people what that's what people expect. what they is a ridiculous they don't want is a ridiculous policy of sending to policy of sending people to a country, as i say, which has been littered human rights been littered with human rights abuses, and as abuses, which inevitably and as the of appeal the court of appeal found yesterday, involve yesterday, will involve successful because as successful challenges because as we live in a country which is historically been one of the forefront or foremost countries in support of basic human rights, we drafted the european convention on human rights as a country. we've been involved in the united nations charter. you know, britain is the great, great batus martin of human rights. and if we decide to send people from this country to a country that is the exact opposite in human rights terms, lo behold , there's going to lo and behold, there's going to be huge costs, there's going to

be huge costs, there's going to be we just be huge costs, there's going to be to we just be huge costs, there's going to be to do we just be huge costs, there's going to be to do is we just be huge costs, there's going to be to do is hang we just be huge costs, there's going to be to do is hang on.ile just be huge costs, there's going to be to do is hang on. d0ist be huge costs, there's going to be to do is hang on. do you need to do is hang on. do you not think that's— need to do is hang on. do you not think that's a— need to do is hang on. do you not think that's a little- “0“0 0“ do you not think that's a little bit wnioir— not think that's a little bit wnioir ior— not think that's a little bit unfair for about rwanda? because inoi-s— unfair for about rwanda? because inoi-s noi— unfair for about rwanda? because that's not what— unfair for about rwanda? because that's not what judgement that's not what the judgement wesieroow— yesterday said. the judgement yesterday didn't— yesterday said. the judgement yesterday didn't say that rwanda iiseii— yesterday didn't say that rwanda iiseii-on— yesterday didn't say that rwanda itself-an unsafe— yesterday didn't say that rwanda itself an unsafe country. in itself was an unsafe country. in iooi— itself was an unsafe country. in rga, in— itself was an unsafe country. in rag, in nonw— itself was an unsafe country. in fact, in many ways— itself was an unsafe country. in fact, in many ways it was quite giowing— fact, in many ways it was quite giowing-ine— fact, in many ways it was quite glowing the improvements glowing about the improvements that glowing about the improvements inoi nowe— glowing about the improvements that have-place— glowing about the improvements that have-place in- glowing about the improvements that have place in rwanda. that have taken place in rwanda. the that have taken place in rwanda. ine sneoiiio— that have taken place in rwanda. the specific-of— that have taken place in rwanda. the specific of detail the specific point of detail moi— the specific point of detail inoi owo— the specific point of detail that two out— the specific point of detail that two out of— the specific point of detail that two out of the three inoges— that two out of the three inoges oi— that two out of the three judges, of course, it was a spin— judges, of course, it was a split decision.— judges, of course, it was a split decision. the specific oeioii— split decision. the specific oeioii os— split decision. the specific detail was not— split decision. the specific detail was not the risk in mono— detail was not the risk in kwonoo. ii— detail was not the risk in rwanda. it was- detail was not the risk in rwanda. it was the risk that reorie— rwanda. it was the risk that people-90— rwanda. it was the risk that peogie-go oii- rwanda. it was the risk that people go off from rwanda people might go off from rwanda to people might go off from rwanda io oiner— people might go off from rwanda to other countries— people might go off from rwanda to other countries that are deemed— to other countries that are deemed unsafe- to other countries that are deemed unsafe . rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't oeemeo— deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe— deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe . _ deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe . 3: deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe. 3: deemed unsafe. rwanda wasn't deemed unsafe . 3: c. deemed unsafe. rwanda is unsafe, though. it's unsafe for anyone who wants to express their opinion, who wants to, for example , women who want to example, women who want to become involved in politics. it's a country which has massive historical repression of human rights. but you're absolutely rights. but you're absolutely right that the fine detail of the judgement in this was the judgement in this case was that rwandans couldn't be that the rwandans couldn't be trusted to not send people back, to be tortured in their home countries. if can't be countries. and if they can't be trusted to do that, they can't be seekers.

be trusted with asylum seekers. it's i would it's pretty obvious, i would have thought. and chris, very nrieiiw— have thought. and chris, very nrieiiw ,— have thought. and chris, very nrieiiw . wnoi— have thought. and chris, very briefly , what-next?i have thought. and chris, veryi briefly , what-next? is briefly, what happens next? is inis— briefly, what happens next? is inis-go— briefly, what happens next? is inis-go io— briefly, what happens next? is inis-go io ine- briefly, what happens next? is this go to the supreme this going to go to the supreme oomi— this going to go to the supreme oowri e — this going to go to the supreme oowri e neon.— this going to go to the supreme court ? yeah, it's— this going to go to the supreme court ? “00“ c 00 “ 0g court? yeah, it's definitely going to go to the supreme court. i mean, you know, the government may or may not win in the supreme nobody knows. the supreme court. nobody knows. that's of an appeal. that's the nature of an appeal. but i say to you, to but all i would say to you, to your is this to you your viewers is this and to you is don't we just is why don't we just have a fleet of drones? we've spent hundreds millions on the hundreds of millions on the french and french government and subsidising the french government stop people government to stop people crossing surely if crossing the channel. surely if we in technology we invested in technology and the resources the requisite security resources , could stop people , we could just stop people getting in the first place getting here in the first place rather spending this rather than spending all this time will be just time billions. it will be just to make a political statement that we're getting on the that we're getting tough on the boat because let's boat people because let's be fair. what this really fair. that's what this is really about, right? quite, quite possiniw— about, right? quite, quite gossiniw .— about, right? quite, quite possibly . chris- ” g“7 quite, quite possibly . chris doyle, really possibly. chris doyle, really oggreoioie— possibly. chris doyle, really appreciate your— possibly. chris doyle, really appreciate your here on appreciate your time here on nriiisn— appreciate your time here on british britain's— appreciate your time here on british britain's newsroom. and of british britain's newsroom. and oi—oneoo- british britain's newsroom. and oi—oneoo io- british britain's newsroom. andi of_ahead to that of course, we look ahead to that supreme— of course, we look ahead to that supreme couri— of course, we look ahead to that supreme court battle where, as you— supreme court battle where, as you say— supreme court battle where, as you say inis— supreme court battle where, as you say inis is— supreme court battle where, as you say, this is really still in me— you say, this is really still in the balance.— you say, this is really still in the balance. this— you say, this is really still in the balance. this is not a done oeoi— the balance. this is not a done oeoi guiie— the balance. this is not a done oeoi guiie wei. — the balance. this is not a done deal quite yet. chris doyle, casey— deal quite yet. chris doyle, casey monk— deal quite yet. chris doyle, casey, thank you so much for your— casey, thank you so much for your iime— casey, thank you so much for your time this— casey, thank you so much for your time this morning. 000 your time this morning. well, joining— your time this morning. well, joining-now—

your time this morning. well, ioininglnow io— your time this morning. well, joining now to discuss this joining us now to discuss this further gb news security further is gb news home security editor mark white. and, mark, this is one of rishi sunak five pledges, , to stop the pledges, isn't it, to stop the boats? so this is rather embarrassing for government, embarrassing for the government, isn't doubt it isn't it? there's no doubt it is. me— isn't it? there's no doubt it is. the government- c 7 there's no doubt it is. the government completely by surnsen— is. the government completely by sunise ni— is. the government completely by surprise. all the— is. the government completely by surprise. all the music we surprise. all the mood music we werewos- mew- surprise. all the mood music we were-was they were- were getting was they were ioiriw— were getting was they were fairly confident _ were getting was they were fairly confident that the appeal ooun— fairly confident that the appeal ooun iuoges— fairly confident that the appeal court judges would follow in the iooisiens— court judges would follow in the iooisiens ,— court judges would follow in the footsteps , really. _ court judges would follow in the footsteps , really. and the footsteps, really. and the oeoision— footsteps, really. and the decision that— footsteps, really. and the decision that was handed down by the decision that was handed down by me nign— decision that was handed down by me nign coun— decision that was handed down by the high court in— decision that was handed down by the high court in december of iosi— the high court in december of iosi weor. — the high court in december of iosi weor. so— the high court in december of last year. so when that came inrougn— last year. so when that came inrougn. mew— last year. so when that came through, they were left scrambling _ through, they were left scrambling to come up with , in scrambling to come up with, in the scrambling to come up with, in me emi— scrambling to come up with, in me one, wnoi— scrambling to come up with, in the end, what we— scrambling to come up with, in the end, what we saw was some ioiriw— the end, what we saw was some ioiriw roiusi— the end, what we saw was some fairly robust language in their determination— fairly robust language in their determination to— fairly robust language in their determination to continue iigniing— determination to continue iigniing inis— determination to continue fighting this and taking it to the fighting this and taking it to me sunreme— fighting this and taking it to the supreme court. and they will do the supreme court. and they will no inoi. — the supreme court. and they will no inoi. ii— the supreme court. and they will no inoi. ii is— the supreme court. and they will do that. it is an— the supreme court. and they will do that. it is an important part of do that. it is an important part oi ine— do that. it is an important part oi me soon— do that. it is an important part of the stop the _ do that. it is an important part of the stop the boats campaign. mauve..— of the stop the boats campaign. whatever, chris— of the stop the boats campaign. whatever, chris might say, there is in— whatever, chris might say, there is in in— whatever, chris might say, there is in in nis— whatever, chris might say, there is in in his sort— whatever, chris might say, there is in in his sort of— whatever, chris might say, there is in in his sort of objection to is in in his sort of objection io inis— is in in his sort of objection to this particular policy , he to this particular policy, he ine— to this particular policy, he the government sees it as being wiioi— the government sees it as being wiioi in— the government sees it as being wiioi in ierms— the government sees it as being vital in terms of— the government sees it as being vital in terms of acting as a oeierreni— vital in terms of acting as a deterrent for— vital in terms of acting as a deterrent for the— vital in terms of acting as a deterrent for the criminal gangs

ooming— deterrent for the criminal gangs coming across. and it's never been— coming across. and it's never been more urgent. we've got imoges— been more urgent. we've got imoges we— been more urgent. we've got imoges we on— been more urgent. we've got images we can show you for those woioning— images we can show you for those woioning on— images we can show you for those watching on television. i'll eknioin— watching on television. i'll explain io— watching on television. i'll explain to our— watching on television. i'll explain to our radio listeners. it explain to our radio listeners. ii is— explain to our radio listeners. ii is imoges— explain to our radio listeners. it is images of— explain to our radio listeners. it is images of the latest orriwois— it is images of the latest arrivals in— it is images of the latest arrivals in dover harbour this morning— arrivals in dover harbour this morning showing the small boats that morning showing the small boats inoi oe— morning showing the small boats that are arrived— morning showing the small boats that are arrived to— morning showing the small boats that are arrived to so far , 111 that are arrived to so far, 111 nroouoer— that are arrived to so far, 111 are producer in— that are arrived to so far, 111 are producer in kent . i counted are producer in kent. i counted inem— are producer in kent. i counted inem ooming— are producer in kent. i counted them coming off— are producer in kent. i counted them coming off these border ioroe— them coming off these border force catamarans— them coming off these border force catamarans in at dover noriour. — force catamarans in at dover harbour. another— force catamarans in at dover harbour. another small boat en ouei— harbour. another small boat en ouei now,— harbour. another small boat en route. now, this— harbour. another small boat en route. now, this is— harbour. another small boat en route. now, this is happening wniie— route. now, this is happening wniie wnere— route. now, this is happening while where the— route. now, this is happening while where the whether conditions _ while where the whether conditions in— while where the whether conditions in the channel are iess— conditions in the channel are iess inon— conditions in the channel are less than ideal.— conditions in the channel are less than ideal. and although kisni— less than ideal. and although kisni sunok— less than ideal. and although rishi sunak just— less than ideal. and although rishi sunak just a few weeks ago un— rishi sunak just a few weeks ago un oni— rishi sunak just a few weeks ago came up and said— rishi sunak just a few weeks ago came up and said that in a press conference, government policy sioning— conference, government policy sioningio— conference, government policy was starting to take effect , but was starting to take effect, but moi— was starting to take effect, but inoi numeirs— was starting to take effect, but that numbers were down by 20% at ooiuoiiw— that numbers were down by 20% at ooiuoiiw in— that numbers were down by 20% at ooiuoiiw in in— that numbers were down by 20% at actually in in the— that numbers were down by 20% at actually in in the weeks since men.— actually in in the weeks since inen. inere— actually in in the weeks since then. there has— actually in in the weeks since then. there has been a bit of an imnrowemeni— then. there has been a bit of an improvement in— then. there has been a bit of an improvement in the weather oonoiiions— improvement in the weather conditions and— improvement in the weather conditions and the numbers have rookeieoi— conditions and the numbers have rocketed. again,— conditions and the numbers have rocketed. again, we— conditions and the numbers have rocketed. again, we are rapidly onnroooning— rocketed. again, we are rapidly approaching 12,000, which is

siiii— approaching 12,000, which is siiii o— approaching 12,000, which is siiii o iii— approaching 12,000, which is still a bit down— approaching 12,000, which is still a bit down on where we oi— still a bit down on where we oi inis— still a bit down on where we were at this point last year. nui— were at this point last year. nui we— were at this point last year. nui we oe— were at this point last year. but we are heading towards the flat but we are heading towards the iioi ooim — but we are heading towards the flat calm months— but we are heading towards the flat calm months where many, nonw— flat calm months where many, monw neonie— flat calm months where many, many people potentially a inousono— many people potentially a thousand a— many people potentially a thousand a day or more are in me— thousand a day or more are in me wen— thousand a day or more are in me very ooim,— thousand a day or more are in the very calm, flat days will come across— the very calm, flat days will come across the _ the very calm, flat days will come across the channel. ' “i: 70. come across the channel. and yet mere-s— come across the channel. and yet inere-s no— come across the channel. and yet now there's no chance or very, very slim chance of a single flight going to rwanda this year says this won't be sorted in time for the election. the prime minister will fail in his key pledge to voters. you know, i inink— pledge to voters. you know, i inink een— pledge to voters. you know, i think even if— pledge to voters. you know, i think even if the— 33 you know, i think even if the government had in— think even if the government had in me— think even if the government had won in the court— think even if the government had won in the court of— think even if the government had won in the court of appeal wesieroiow— won in the court of appeal yesterday we — won in the court of appeal yesterday, we still wouldn't be going— yesterday, we still wouldn't be geiiing onw— yesterday, we still wouldn't be getting any flights taken off neoouse— getting any flights taken off because the _ getting any flights taken off because the briefings we were geiiing— because the briefings we were geiiing-moi— because the briefings we were getting that rishi sunak getting was that rishi sunak women— getting was that rishi sunak wonieo io— getting was that rishi sunak wanted to see— getting was that rishi sunak wanted to see the whole of the iegoi— wanted to see the whole of the iegoi nross— wanted to see the whole of the legal process in— wanted to see the whole of the legal process in this country exnousieoi— legal process in this country exhausted. so— legal process in this country exhausted. so going to the sunreme— exhausted. so going to the supreme court— exhausted. so going to the supreme court was the inevitable newn— supreme court was the inevitable neki sien— supreme court was the inevitable next step because— supreme court was the inevitable next step because they knew the gowernmeni— next step because they knew the government knew— next step because they knew the government knew that there would be government knew that there would ne on — government knew that there would ne on onneoi— government knew that there would ne on onneoi ii— government knew that there would be an appeal if they thought it wouio— be an appeal if they thought it wouio ne— be an appeal if they thought it wouio ne ine— be an appeal if they thought it would be the other parties lost. neon. — would be the other parties lost. neon. kno— would be the other parties lost. neon. one new— would be the other parties lost. yeah. and they would not seek to oanoow— yeah. and they would not seek to remove anybody until that final oeoision— remove anybody until that final oeoision by— remove anybody until that final decision by the _ remove anybody until that final decision by the highest court in the decision by the highest court in me iono— decision by the highest court in me iono noo—

decision by the highest court in the land had been made. and inoi-s— the land had been made. and inoi-s noi— the land had been made. and that's not going— the land had been made. and that's not going to happen. as you— that's not going to happen. as you say— that's not going to happen. as you say iom— that's not going to happen. as you say, tom, until at least the eno— you say, tom, until at least the end oi— you say, tom, until at least the end oi ine— you say, tom, until at least the end of the year. _ you say, tom, until at least the end of the year. perhaps early new— end of the year. perhaps early neki weor— end of the year. perhaps early next year, because i think it's oooier,— next year, because i think it's october, november time. we're ioiking— october, november time. we're ioiking oioui— october, november time. we're talking about it— october, november time. we're talking about it being pencilled in os— talking about it being pencilled in as an opportunity for the sunreme— in as an opportunity for the supreme court— in as an opportunity for the supreme court to deliberate on inis— supreme court to deliberate on inis mower.— supreme court to deliberate on this matter. then— supreme court to deliberate on this matter. then it will be a reserved— this matter. then it will be a reserved judgement, which usuoiiw— reserved judgement, which usuoiiw is— reserved judgement, which usuoiiw is o— reserved judgement, which usually is a month or two after inew-we— usually is a month or two after they've consider— usually is a month or two after they've consider the matter. so youn— they've consider the matter. so weon ii— they've consider the matter. so weon ii oouio— they've consider the matter. so yeah, it could be— they've consider the matter. so yeah, it could be well into next weor— yeah, it could be well into next weor neiore— yeah, it could be well into next year before actually any flights ioke— year before actually any flights ioke oii— year before actually any flights ioke oii oi— year before actually any flights take off of course— year before actually any flights take off of course that is on me— take off of course that is on me nrowiso— take off of course that is on the proviso that— take off of course that is on the proviso that it goes in the government's— the proviso that it goes in the government's favour . the proviso that it goes in the government's favour. 0:04.37. government's favour. okay, mark wniie.— government's favour. okay, mark white, really good to see you this morning. thank you so much for your analysis and those pictures as well from dover this morning. let us know what you morning. do let us know what you think home. what do you make think at home. what do you make of in the court of that judgement in the court of that judgement in the court of yesterday day? it is of appeal yesterday day? it is now going go to the supreme now going to go to the supreme court. what do make of it court. what do you make of it all? vaiews@gbnews.com. but of course, the only course, that's not the only political story in town today. no, the prime minister is iounoning— no, the prime minister is launching what's being described as launching what's being described os—oi- as the most radical reform of me— as the most radical reform of me an— as the most radical reform of me an in— as the most radical reform of

the nhs in its— as the most radical reform of the nhs in its history. as the most radical reform of the nhs in its history . the nhs in its history. us the 15 the nhs in its history. us the is wooi— the nhs in its history. us the is weor nim— the nhs in its history. us the 15 year plan will aim to plug shortages of up to 360,000 staff and save . taxpayers £10 billion. and save. taxpayers £10 billion. well, the health secretary, siewe— well, the health secretary, steve barclay,— well, the health secretary, steve barclay, says that the nhs has steve barclay, says that the nhs nos neon— steve barclay, says that the nhs has been calling— steve barclay, says that the nhs has been calling for a long term plank— has been calling for a long term nion iike— has been calling for a long term planr iike ine— has been calling for a long term plan, like the government is unweiiing— plan, like the government is unveiling today. c 0.0“ unveiling today. it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we can ensure that we get the treatment, the extra capacity into the system. but what today is also about it is responding to something the nhs has asked for many years , which is to have for many years, which is to have a long term plan. it will be iterative . it's not a one off. iterative. it's not a one off. we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves . but shadow modelling evolves. but shadow neoiin— modelling evolves. but shadow health secretary— modelling evolves. but shadow health secretary wes- : “g but shadow health secretary wes streeting soio — health secretary wes streeting soio ine — health secretary wes streeting said the government should have ioken— said the government should have ioken ooiion— said the government should have taken action long— said the government should have taken action long ago . �*vw�*y 00 taken action long ago. why do we need— taken action long ago. why do we need me— taken action long ago. why do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in history ? why do we nhs staff in history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs? it's because for the last 13 years we've not had a workforce

plan . it is years we've not had a workforce plan. it is the years we've not had a workforce plan . it is the biggest plan. it is the biggest expansion since the last labour government, which delivered 75,000 more nurses . and 44,000 75,000 more nurses. and 44,000 more doctors as well. let's cross to downing - 30 let's cross to downing street now, wnere— cross to downing street now, wnere ioining— cross to downing street now, where joining us— cross to downing street now, where joining us is gb news noiiiiooi— where joining us is gb news political reporter catherine iosier— political reporter catherine foster, who's— political reporter catherine foster, who's across this story. kno— foster, who's across this story. and catherine— foster, who's across this story. and catherine ,— foster, who's across this story. and catherine , the government and catherine, the government isn-i— and catherine, the government isn-i seeing— and catherine, the government isn't seeing that— and catherine, the government isn't seeing that much resistance— isn't seeing that much resistance to- isn't seeing that much resistance to the actual ideas in ms— resistance to the actual ideas in this package— resistance to the actual ideas in this package . n0 in this package. no, this has gone down broadly very well with pretty much everybody , labour pretty much everybody, labour included. labour of course, are saying basically you've nicked our plan. this is what we've been suggesting, the doubling of medical school places , etcetera. medical school places, etcetera. but it's been broadly welcomed by health professionals to and of course we've had many plans for the nhs before , but this for the nhs before, but this long term workforce plan spanning 15 years really is quite a big deal. the government

are putting £2.4 billion of new money into this over the next five years and over the 15 years in total they should have over 300,000 new doctors or new nurses and other health care workers. they're looking at moving at the time it takes to become a doctor, down from five years to four. they're looking at far more apprenticeships where people will be earning as their learning degree, apprenticeships , acas, meaning apprenticeships, acas, meaning that people can be actually working in the nhs and training at the same time. they want to get far more home grown talent into the nhs. of course it's britain's largest employer , but britain's largest employer, but we are very reliant on workers from overseas and also on agents rac staff who are vastly , vastly rac staff who are vastly, vastly expensive . so the thinking is expensive. so the thinking is train people here and also retain them. so great going forward of course, many

questions. first of all, is the government going to be in power long enough to implement much of this bearing in fact, the fact that it's going to be a general election in a year to a year and a half. and also, of course , it a half. and also, of course, it may serve challenges going forward, but the nhs is under huge challenges. right now. we have a five day doctors strike looming in july. that is unprecedented and rishi sunak , unprecedented and rishi sunak, of course, has promised to get waiting lists down. now, at the moment there really not budging and of course, there's this ongoing dispute with the doctors. they want 36. of course, that's not likely to happen. but suggestions are now that the recommendations from the pay review bodies that the government has previously clung to as saying we will give whatever the pay review bodies recommend suggestions now that the government may not honour that. so okay, they may be

recruiting lots of doctors, lots of nurses going forward, but they face very real challenges now in keeping the ones that they've got. well, catherine , they've got. well, catherine, inonk— they've got. well, catherine, inonk wou— they've got. well, catherine, inonk you so— they've got. well, catherine, thank you so much- 30 well, catherine, thank you so much for bringing us moi— thank you so much for bringing us inoi wen— thank you so much for bringing us that very latest. no doubt, nig— us that very latest. no doubt, ug, nig— us that very latest. no doubt, some big, big challenge for the gowernmeni— some big, big challenge for the government there. thanks for bringing— government there. thanks for nringing us— government there. thanks for bringing us the— government there. thanks for bringing us the latest there irom— bringing us the latest there from downing— bringing us the latest there. from downing—get bringing us the latest there- from downing_get in from downing street. d0 get in iouon— from downing street. d0 get in iouon wim— from downing street. do get in touch with your views on the nhs reform plans. as tom says, they are being received quite well across the board. vaiews@gbnews.com but still to come, the government is cutting off access to something it once described as life saving. what is it? well, we'll find out

tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news channel . will britain's news channel. will good morning. the time is 1025 one— good morning. the time is 1025 one woue— good morning. the time is 1025 mg woure wiin— good morning. the time is 1025 and you're with britain's newsroom on- and you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with tom norwooo— newsroom on gb news with tom norwooo oni— newsroom on gb news with tom harwood and ellie— newsroom on gb news with tom harwood and ellie costello. and goi— harwood and ellie costello. and we've got loads— harwood and ellie costello. and we've got loads of— harwood and ellie costello. and we've got loads of you getting in iouon— we've got loads of you getting in touch with— we've got loads of you getting in touch with us— we've got loads of you getting in touch with us this morning on inis— in touch with us this morning on inis so— in touch with us this morning on inis snow.— in touch with us this morning on this swan story. we're talking oioui— this swan story. we're talking. about—essentially, about this morning. essentially, iiizoiein— about this morning. essentially, elizabeth line— about this morning. essentially, elizabeth line in— about this morning. essentially, elizabeth line in london. it was susnenoeo— elizabeth line in london. it was suspended yesterday for over an nour— suspended yesterday for over an nour neoouse— suspended yesterday for over an hour because as— suspended yesterday for over an hour because as a— suspended yesterday for over an hour because as a swan was on me— hour because as a swan was on me nook— hour because as a swan was on me irook iusi— hour because as a swan was on the track just one— hour because as a swan was on the track just one swan, a £15 niiiion— the track just one swan, a £15 billion railway,— the track just one swan, a £15 billion railway, delivering nunoreos— billion railway, delivering hundreds of— billion railway, delivering hundreds of thousands of iournews— hundreds of thousands of iournews ,— hundreds of thousands of journeys , supposed to be journeys, supposed to be iregueni— journeys, supposed to be frequent, supposed to be the mining— frequent, supposed to be the shining example— frequent, supposed to be the shining example of modern nriioin— shining example of modern nriioin oni— shining example of modern britain and a— shining example of modern britain and a swan stopped it in its britain and a swan stopped it in is irooks— britain and a swan stopped it in is irooks .— britain and a swan stopped it in its tracks . yes,— britain and a swan stopped it in its tracks . yes, but— britain and a swan stopped it in its tracks . yes, but a swan. and its tracks. yes, but a swan. and if its tracks. yes, but a swan. and ii ii— its tracks. yes, but a swan. and ii ii os— its tracks. yes, but a swan. and ii ii o— its tracks. yes, but a swan. and ii ii o oog— its tracks. yes, but a swan. and if it was a dog, you— its tracks. yes, but a swan. and if it was a dog, you wouldn't let if it was a dog, you wouldn't iei o— if it was a dog, you wouldn't iei o iroin— if it was a dog, you wouldn't let a train run— if it was a dog, you wouldn't let a train run over it. so inoi-s— let a train run over it. so that's that's— let a train run over it. so that's that's how i feel. neoouse— that's that's how i feel. because a dog wouldn't be so siiiw— because a dog wouldn't be so siiiw io— because a dog wouldn't be so siiiw io gei— because a dog wouldn't be so siiiw io gei on— because a dog wouldn't be so silly to get on the— because a dog wouldn't be so silly to get on the track. well, it silly to get on the track. well,

ii oouio— silly to get on the track. well, ii oouio oo. — silly to get on the track. well, it could do. you— silly to get on the track. well, it could do. /0. 00“ c “4 it could do. you don't think so. but anyway, it's a very sensible. so i said, we are a sensible. so as i said, we are a noiion— sensible. so as i said, we are a noiion oi— sensible. so as i said, we are a nation of animal— so as i said, we are a nation of animal lovers. so oenoiniw— nation of animal lovers. so oenoiniw goi— nation of animal lovers. so certainly got you all talking inis— certainly got you all talking this morning.— certainly got you all talking this morning. clive agrees with merer—os- me, said should drivers automatically- me, said should drivers- automatically-cats and automatically run over cats and dogs— automatically run over cats and dogs ii— automatically run over cats and dogs ii-gei— automatically run over cats and dogs ii-gei in— automatically run over cats and dogs if-get in the- automatically run over cats and dogs if get in the way? no dogs if they get in the way? no moi— dogs if they get in the way? no inoi—nii— dogs if they get in the way? no inoi—nii oni- dogs if they get in the way? no that—hit and run.- that would be a hit and run. inoi-s— that would be a hit and run. inoi-s o— that would be a hit and run. that's a that's— that would be a hit and run. that's a that's a— that would be a hit and run. that's a that's a fair point. inoi-s— that's a that's a fair point. inoi-s o— that's a that's a fair point. inoi-s o ioii— that's a that's a fair point. that's a fair point. - that's a that's a fair point. that's a fair point. but- that's a that's a fair point. that's a fair point. but i- that's a that's a fair point. that's a fair point. but i think when it ever been the case when has it ever been the case that a cat a dog has has that a cat or a dog has has stopped, has been sort of a just stop oil style movement? i think that be as with that we should be as rough with the swan held up the train the swan that held up the train yesterday as we should be with just stop oil protesters. well, some we're rough some would argue we're not rough enougn— some would argue we're not rough enougn wiin— some would argue we're not rough enough with those— some would argue we're not rough enough with those either. 0/05 enough with those either. yes. ves- — enough with those either. yes. ves- no.— enough with those either. yes. ves- no. i— enough with those either. yes. yes. no, i think— enough with those either. yes. yes. no, i think i— enough with those either. yes. yes. no, i think i think- yes. no, i think i think absolutely just more forceful absolutely just a more forceful mobility idea . but but steve mobility idea. but but steve wrote in to say something interesting because we mentioned how crowns were how swans were the property of the king, but not all swans. what was your wild ones? wild swans. wild swans. but how do you know which ones are wild swan and which ones are wild swan and which ones not? how you know which ones not? how do you know which is royal and which one is a royal swan and which one not? steve written in not? well steve has written in to crown have yellow

to say, crown swans have yellow leg private swans have leg tags, private swans have white tags. so i suppose we shouldn't touch it if it has a yellow tag because that's his majesty's property and i think i would be put up in the tower. yeah so i used to think that you oouio— yeah so i used to think that you oouio gei— yeah so i used to think that you oouio gei ii.— yeah so i used to think that you could get it. you— “00“ so i used to think that you could get it. you could get done for could get it. you could get done ior ieso— could get it. you could get done for treason if— could get it. you could get done for treason if you _ could get it. you could get done for treason if you killed a swan. that's— for treason if you killed a swan. that's not particularly irue— swan. that's not particularly rug, i— swan. that's not particularly true, i think.— swan. that's not particularly true, i think. _ swan. that's not particularly true, i think. i— swan. that's not particularly true, i think. i think you probably like. i'm fairly sure that it's. you could statutorily be done for treason, but it just wouldn't be prosecuted to serve time. can, in theory, time. yeah, you can, in theory, sewe— time. yeah, you can, in theory, serve-oni— time. yeah, you can, in theory, serve-one wou— time. yeah, you can, in theory, serve-and you can-inl serve time and you can get in me— serve time and you can get in me some— serve time and you can get in the same-that— serve time and you can get in the same-that i- serve time and you can get in the same that i think. the same way that i think. wnere— the same way that i think. wnere is— the same way that i think. wnere is ii— the same way that i think. where is it you're- the same way that i think. where is it you're allowed to fire a crossbow at a welshman in some whatever. there are some city or whatever. there are lots of laws that sort of aren't really enforced. no, really. really enforced. no, not really. nui— really enforced. no, not really. nui siiii— really enforced. no, not really. but still,-wouldn't- ”0000 0“0”0.0i: no, not really. but still, wouldn't want to but still, you wouldn't want to mess-swan, that's- but still, you wouldn't want to mess swan, that's for mess with the swan, that's for sure-oioin— mess with the swan, that's for sure. .claire-withl mess with the swan, that's for. sure.-claire-with me sure. and claire agrees with me one— sure. and claire agrees with me one sows— sure. and claire agrees with me one sows i— sure. and claire agrees with me ono saysr i ogree— sure. and claire agrees with me and says, i agree ellie. and says, i agree with ellie. nou— and says, i agree with ellie. you-nroieoi- and says, i agree with ellie. you - protect the - and says, i agree with ellie. you protect the swans. you have to protect the swans. ine— you have to protect the swans. ine-wos— you have to protect the swans. the -was delayed - you have to protect the swans. the was delayed for the train was delayed for an nour. — the train was delayed for an now. its— the train was delayed for an hour. it's not— the train was delayed for an hour. it's not that much, reoiiw— hour. it's not that much, reoiiw. we— hour. it's not that much, really. we have to look after our swans-swans- really. we have to look after our swans. swans are our swans. surely swans are iiwing— our swans. surely swans are living animals.— our swans. surely swans are living animals. they have a rigni— living animals. they have a rigni-ine- living animals. they have a right-the planet. living animals. they have a right the planet as right to be on the planet as muon— right to be on the planet as much-humans,- right to be on the planet asi much.humans,_on right to be on the planet as- much.humans,-on the much as humans, but not on the irooks— much as humans, but not on the irooks-nowe— much as humans, but not on the tracks-have-to. tracks as they have a right to be tracks as they have a right to ne on— tracks as they have a right to ne on-nionei. -

tracks as they have a right to be on-planet. but- tracks as they have a right to be on planet. tracks as they have a right to- be on-planet. but they don't be on the planet. but they don't have right on the tracks have a right to be on the tracks of a railway. well, look, i think. i think you've definitely won the inbox. think you have. won the inbox. i think you have. definitely. i recognise i'm in a minority. generally, like minority. generally, i feel like im— minority. generally, i feel like i-m-in— minority. generally, i feel like i-m-in syno— minority. generally, i feel like i'm-in sync-the- i'm very in sync with the viewers—find. i'm very in sync with the viewers—find i viewers and you'll find this. i say— viewers and you'll find this. i sow owgnei— viewers and you'll find this. i sow owgnei know— viewers and you'll find this. i say cygnet know-doesn'tl say cygnet know that doesn't quite do your quite work, but do you keep your views in views coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. this is brilliant we will brilliant newsroom and we will be about more just be talking about more than just swans. big swans. there are some big important today for important stories today too. for example, for people example, the deadline for people to first and second example, the deadline for people to of first and second example, the deadline for people to of this first and second example, the deadline for people to of this covidt and second example, the deadline for people to of this covid 19 nd second example, the deadline for people to of this covid 19 vaccine 1d example, the deadline for people to of this covid 19 vaccine is dose of this covid 19 vaccine is today. ends today. this whole today. it ends today. this whole program. it's pretty program. yeah, it's pretty remarkable,— remarkable, really, isn't it? new— remarkable, really, isn't it? well, government urging well, the government are urging neonie— well, the government are urging neoniiorworo— well, the government are urging peoplrforward today , come forward and after today, neonie— come forward and after today, neonie-oniw— come forward and after today, neonie-oniw ne- come forward and after today, people only be able to get people will only be able to get a people will only be able to get o-or— people will only be able to get o-or seoo— people will only be able to get a-or second dose- people will only be able to get a or second dose of a first or second dose of vaccine .they - of i vaccine if they are of an inoreoseo— vaccine if they are of an increased risk- vaccine if they are of an increased risk to the virus. so ioii— increased risk to the virus. so ii-ii only— increased risk to the virus. so ii-ii oniw ne— increased risk to the virus. so it'll only be the— increased risk to the virus. so it'll only be the vulnerable groups. in many this marks groups. in many ways, this marks sort the end of what the sort of the end of what the government have considered government might have considered to pandemic period. to be the pandemic period. they've caught they've they've finally caught up the rest of us. well, up with the rest of us. well, this year's spring— c. 0.5 well, this year's spring booster oomnoign— this year's spring booster campaign also ends today, oiieoiing— campaign also ends today, affecting adults aged 75 and over care. home— affecting adults aged 75 and over care. home residents and neonie— over care. home residents and neonie wiin— over care. home residents and neonie mm o— over care. home residents and people with a suppressed immune swsiem. — people with a suppressed immune swsiem. wow— people with a suppressed immune system. well, let's— people with a suppressed immune system. well, let's get- people with a suppressed immune system. 00 0“ system. well, let's get more on this now with the gp, dr.

laurence buckman . and dr. laurence buckman. and dr. buckman, thank you for joining us this morning. i think a lot of people might be a little bit confused as to the nhs vaccine programme. still going on. of course, it was for vulnerable groups, it was for others as groups, but it was for others as well. yeah, groups, but it was for others as well . yeah, it was until well. yeah, it was until tomorrow. and - yeah, it was until tomorrow. and from tomorrow the rouiine— tomorrow. and from tomorrow the routine vaccination _ tomorrow. and from tomorrow the routine vaccination of not at risk— routine vaccination of not at risk oouiis— routine vaccination of not at risk adults stops— routine vaccination of not at risk adults stops and we'll siiii— risk adults stops and we'll siiii ne— risk adults stops and we'll still be vaccinated . m00; “3 still be vaccinated. meeting ooier— still be vaccinated. meeting other people that the at risk but not those not everybody else. and that moves it from being a special vaccine campaign that has run for years now to something that is special for those patients who require it. that seems fairly sensible to neon.— that seems fairly sensible to neon. so— that seems fairly sensible to me. yeah. so does- that seems fairly sensible to me. 40.0“ : me. yeah. so does this mark the end of the pandemic ? yes. end of the pandemic? yes. i think it depends— end of the pandemic? yes. i think it depends how- i;0“i: : 0.7 yes. i think it depends how you'd call the think it depends how you'd call me woni— think it depends how you'd call the word pandemic, but i think inis— the word pandemic, but i think inis is— the word pandemic, but i think this is absolutely— the word pandemic, but i think this is absolutely the final sirow— this is absolutely the final sirow ior— this is absolutely the final straw for the— this is absolutely the final straw for the pandemic. that ooesn-i— straw for the pandemic. that doesn't mean— straw for the pandemic. that doesn't mean covid has gone owow. — doesn't mean covid has gone owow. ii— doesn't mean covid has gone away. it doesn't— doesn't mean covid has gone away. it doesn't mean it doesn't

kill away. it doesn't mean it doesn't kiii neonie.— away. it doesn't mean it doesn't kiii pebbler nui— away. it doesn't mean it doesn't kill people, but it— away. it doesn't mean it doesn't kill people, but it now moves imo— kill people, but it now moves inio ine— kill people, but it now moves into the category— kill people, but it now moves into the category of dangerous iiinesses— into the category of dangerous illnesses. many— into the category of dangerous illnesses. many of which we have wresiieo — illnesses. many of which we have wrestled with _ illnesses. many of which we have wrestled with for— illnesses. many of which we have wrestled with for generations. so wrestled with for generations. so its— wrestled with for generations. so its no— wrestled with for generations. so it's now moved into the nookgrouno— so it's now moved into the background rather than the ioregrouno— background rather than the foreground of— background rather than the foreground of health service ininking. — foreground of health service thinking. and— foreground of health service thinking. and in- foreground of health service thinking. '“i: “ foreground of health service thinking. ' “i: “ thinking. and in its wake, i suppose the nhs has a lot of problems. we've been hearing today about the government's plans to try and boost the workforce. we know we've heard endless stories about the waiting lists, the delayed treatments . i suppose this sort treatments. i suppose this sort of is a bit of a line in the sand today, putting that pandemic period behind us, but it means there are a hell of a lot of problems for the nhs to deal with in the months and years to come . there were always years to come. there were always going— years to come. there were always going io— years to come. there were always going io ne— years to come. there were always going to be problems— «005 0 there were always going to be problems after the nonoemio— going to be problems after the pandemic guaranteed . it pandemic that was guaranteed. it was pandemic that was guaranteed. it onious. — pandemic that was guaranteed. it was obvious. however, you handle the was obvious. however, you handle ine nonoemio— was obvious. however, you handle the pandemic the _ was obvious. however, you handle the pandemic the way the gowernmeni— the pandemic the way the government handled it is the way inew-we— government handled it is the way inew-we none— government handled it is the way inew-we none ii— government handled it is the way inew-we oone ii .— government handled it is the way they've done it . we— government handled it is the way they've done it . we can't change they've done it. we can't change nisiow— they've done it. we can't change nisiow .— they've done it. we can't change nisiow . so— they've done it. we can't change nisiow . so we— they've done it. we can't change history , so we just— they've done it. we can't change history , so we just have to say history, so we just have to say no— history, so we just have to say the consequence— history, so we just have to say the consequence of their oeoisions.— the consequence of their decisions. we— the consequence of their decisions. we are now all living wiin— decisions. we are now all living win one— decisions. we are now all living win one inoi— decisions. we are now all living with and that means that there

are with and that means that there siiii— with and that means that there are still people— with and that means that there are still people with covid, inere— are still people with covid, inere oe— are still people with covid, there are still— are still people with covid, there are still people dying of cowg— there are still people dying of covid, although _ there are still people dying of covid, although the numbers are ooiuoiiw— covid, although the numbers are ooiuoiiw guiie— covid, although the numbers are actually quite small and there are actually quite small and there siiii— actually quite small and there are still people— actually quite small and there are still people in intensive wno— are still people in intensive wno gei— are still people in intensive care who get covid. but those numenrs— care who get covid. but those numbers are now— care who get covid. but those numbers are now not hugely oiiiereni— numbers are now not hugely different from _ numbers are now not hugely different from anybody else. and the committee— different from anybody else. and the committee that decides these inings— the committee that decides these inings wnion— the committee that decides these inings. wnion is— the committee that decides these things, which is an— the committee that decides these things, which is an independent oommiiiee— things, which is an independent committee for— things, which is an independent committee for vaccinate and immunisation,— committee for vaccinate and immunisation, they've said now we nowe— immunisation, they've said now we nowe io— immunisation, they've said now we have to move— immunisation, they've said now we have to move on to a normal iooing— we have to move on to a normal iooiing ior— we have to move on to a normal footing for covid— we have to move on to a normal footing for covid and actually it's footing for covid and actually is onoui— footing for covid and actually it's about time— footing for covid and actually it's about time that that nonneneo. — it's about time that that happened. '“0 it's about time that that happened. “0 “g 0 it's about time that that- happened. and looking back at the covid vaccination programme , i mean, whatever you think about the vaccines and the way that they were rolled out, it was fast, wasn't it? and we were world leading at the time . at world leading at the time. at the beginning we certainly were sneoking— the beginning we certainly were sneoking os— the beginning we certainly were sneoking os oe— the beginning we certainly were speaking as one of the vaccinators_ speaking as one of the vaccinators at- speaking as one of the vaccinators at two degrees ouisioe— vaccinators at two degrees ouisioe .— vaccinators at two degrees ouisioe . i— vaccinators at two degrees outside . i can— vaccinators at two degrees outside . i can tell you it's outside. i can tell you it's jolly— outside. i can tell you it's ioiiw ooie— outside. i can tell you it's jolly cold when- outside. i can tell you it's jolly cold when you're huddling ooue— jolly cold when you're huddling oouo ine— jolly cold when you're huddling around the vaccine to get warm . around the vaccine to get warm. it's around the vaccine to get warm. its work— around the vaccine to get warm. it's very difficult.— around the vaccine to get warm. it's very difficult. but we nrooesseo— it's very difficult. but we processed and- it's very difficult. but we processed and supported thousands— processed and supported thousands of—

processed and supported thousands of patients and working— thousands of patients and working oui— thousands of patients and working out really quite fast, wnion— working out really quite fast, wnion is— working out really quite fast, which is again,— working out really quite fast, which is again, is difficult wnen— which is again, is difficult wnen ii-s— which is again, is difficult when it's two— which is again, is difficult when it's two degrees. but you oni— when it's two degrees. but you can and we did— when it's two degrees. but you can and we did and we did that neoouse— can and we did and we did that because we realised that covid is oeooiw— because we realised that covid is oeooiw oni— because we realised that covid is deadly and protecting wourseii— is deadly and protecting yourself is— is deadly and protecting yourself is very important. and in — yourself is very important. and in nieoseo— yourself is very important. and in nieoseo we— yourself is very important. and i'm pleased we did. so the roiioui— i'm pleased we did. so the rollout was— i'm pleased we did. so the rollout was very- i'm pleased we did. so the rollout was very fast and that's all rollout was very fast and that's oii io— rollout was very fast and that's oii io ine— rollout was very fast and that's all to the credit— rollout was very fast and that's all to the credit of— rollout was very fast and that's all to the credit of the government - all to the credit of the government . 3:00... all to the credit of the- government . well, i suppose all to the credit of the— government . well, i suppose this government. well, i suppose this is a moment for us to reflect upon on a pretty torrid couple of years. a lot of government mistakes, but also some striking successes that that that logistical operation of getting so many people , particularly so many people, particularly vulnerable people vaccinated quite so quickly. dr. lawrence buchman, i suppose, thank you for your service in being part of that that team . and thank you of that that team. and thank you for speaking us on british for speaking to us on british news on britain's newsroom here on today. thank you. on gb news today. thank you. inonks— on gb news today. thank you. inonks ii— on gb news today. thank you. inonks ii is— on gb news today. thank you. thanks it is, as— on gb news today. thank you. thanks it is, as you— on gb news today. thank you. thanks it is, as you say,- cit n : thank you. thanks it is, as you say, a line in me— thanks it is, as you say, a line in me song— thanks it is, as you say, a line in the sand, is— thanks it is, as you say, a line in the sand, is it— thanks it is, as you say, a line in the sand, is it not? i mean, imogine— in the sand, is it not? i mean, imogine nook— in the sand, is it not? i mean, imagine back in— in the sand, is it not? i mean, imagine back in the summer of 2020— imagine back in the summer of 2020 neing— imagine back in the summer of 2020 being told— imagine back in the summer of 2020 being told that in three weors— 2020 being told that in three weors iime— 2020 being told that in three

years time we'd— 2020 being told that in three years time we'd be at the end. it years time we'd be at the end. ii wo— years time we'd be at the end. ii by— years time we'd be at the end. ii by me— years time we'd be at the end. it was by the time— years time we'd be at the end. it was by the time that- years time we'd be at the end. it was by the time that we- years time we'd be at the end. it was by the time that we got around to our third lockdown that i thinking is this that i was thinking is this going forever? when is going to be forever? when is this end? going this going to end? are we going to be talking about this in 2030? but no, it does it does feel sort of be able feel nice to sort of be able to talk about in the past talk about it all in the past tense. yeah, it does. it makes a oiiierenoe— tense. yeah, it does. it makes a difference, doesn't— tense. yeah, it does. it makes a difference, doesn't it?- yeah, it does. it makes a difference, doesn't it? well, snow— difference, doesn't it? well, snow-snu- difference, doesn't it? well, stay-still lots- difference, doesn't it? well, stay still lots more to stay with us. still lots more to come, including _ stay with us. still lots more to come, including burning come, including paris is burning as come, including paris is burning os—noiioe— come, including paris is burning as_police fatally- as anger over police fatally snooiing— as anger over police fatally shooting teenager reaches shooting a teenager reaches noiiing— shooting a teenager reaches noiiing nomi— shooting a teenager reaches boiling point. we will cross iiwe— boiling point. we will cross iiwe io— boiling point. we will cross iiwe io ine— boiling point. we will cross live to the french capital. inoi-s— live to the french capital. that's after— live to the french capital. that's after a— live to the french capital. that's after a morning news with kinonno— that's after a morning news with kinonno .— that's after a morning news with kinonno . — that's after a morning news with rihanna . ellie,— that's after a morning news with rihanna . ellie, thank- that's after a morning news with rihanna . 0.0; that's after a morning news with rihanna . c. 0; 0: rihanna. ellie, thank you. good morning. it's 1033. rihanna. ellie, thank you. good morning. it's1033. your top stories from the newsroom . and stories from the newsroom. and we start with some breaking news for you . a boy who's believed to for you. a boy who's believed to be 15 years old and a 23 year old man have been stabbed to death in islington in north london. the met police says the incident happened last night. and we'll bring you more on this

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christys on gb news. i'm gb news kooio— christys on gb news. i'm gb news kooio .— christys on gb news. i'm gb news kooio. — christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio. welcome— christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . welcome back.- christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . 0 0 c �*0/�*4 radio. welcome back. it's 1044. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with tom harwood and ellie costello . and hundreds of ellie costello. and hundreds of neonie— ellie costello. and hundreds of neonie nowe— ellie costello. and hundreds of people have been— c. 0 and hundreds of people have been arrested in ironoe— people have been arrested in france as rioting— people have been arrested in france as rioting and looting ooninuesi— france as rioting and looting continues across— france as rioting and looting continues across the country. is— continues across the country. is neon— continues across the country. is neen going— continues across the country. it's been going on for days now. us it's been going on for days now. us 40.000— it's been going on for days now. us 40,000 police— it's been going on for days now. us 40,000 police officers- it's been going on for days now. us 40,000 police officers were deployed as anger over a police shooting that killed a 17 year old boy on tuesday reached boiling point. but let's get more live from paris now with the journalist david chazan. and david, we're expecting andudavid, we're expecting more and david, we're expecting more wioienoe— and david, we're expecting more wioienoe ower— and david, we're expecting more violence over this— and david, we're expecting more violence over this weekend as me— violence over this weekend as me irenon— violence over this weekend as the french authorities just nowen-i— the french authorities just haven't been— the french authorities just haven't been able to put a lid on inis— haven't been able to put a lid on inis . — haven't been able to put a lid on inis . no.— haven't been able to put a lid on this. no, and— haven't been able to put a lid on this. n0 0“i: haven't been able to put a lid on this . n0 0“i: on this. no, and that was despite deploying 40,000 police officers across the country last night. and what we saw was rather than a calming down, we

saw an intensify fication of violence. it spread to more cities in the country. i think although we haven't got an official tally of it yet, but there seems to have been more damage done , more shops smashed damage done, more shops smashed up and vandalised and looted as well . and certainly a lot more well. and certainly a lot more arrests, more than 600 over the country and more than 300in paris alone . now, here in the paris alone. now, here in the paris alone. now, here in the paris area where i am , the paris area where i am, the violence was previously limited to the sort of blue collar, mainly immigrant suburbs of paris where you get rows and rows of tower blocks. they're not at all what we think of as suburbs in the uk, but last night there were worrying signs for parisians that the violence was beginning to move into the heart of the city, where we saw shops vandalised on the rue de rivoli just a few minutes walk

from the louvre museum . so it's from the louvre museum. so it's getting worse and it's spreading. yes and i mean, this isn-i— spreading. yes and i mean, this ian going— spreading. yes and i mean, this ian going io— spreading. yes and i mean, this isn't going to die— spreading. yes and i mean, this isn't going to die down- : “g “05 and i mean, this isn't going to die down any time is im— isn't going to die down any time soon, is it? because— isn't going to die down any time soon, is it? because what we are ioiking— soon, is it? because what we are ioiking onoui— soon, is it? because what we are talking about here— soon, is it? because what we are talking about here is also rooioi— talking about here is also racial tensions.- talking about here is also racial tensions. i mean, what we know— racial tensions. i mean, what we know onoui— racial tensions. i mean, what we know about this— racial tensions. i mean, what we know about this 17— racial tensions. i mean, what we know about this 17 year old boy is ne-s— know about this 17 year old boy is ne-s irom — know about this 17 year old boy is ne-s irom o— know about this 17 year old boy is he's from a french algerian iomiiw— is he's from a french algerian iomiiw .— is he's from a french algerian iomiiw . nis— is he's from a french algerian family. his mother is he's from a french algerian family . his mother says that he family. his mother says that he snoi— family. his mother says that he was shot lethally— family. his mother says that he was shot lethally by a police oiiioer— was shot lethally by a police oiiioer os— was shot lethally by a police officer as he— was shot lethally by a police officer as he drove away from a monk— officer as he drove away from a iroiiio snon— officer as he drove away from a iroiiio sion .— officer as he drove away from a traffic stop . but— officer as he drove away from a traffic stop . but she says he'd traffic stop. but she says he'd neon— traffic stop. but she says he'd neen sionneo— traffic stop. but she says he'd neen sionneo n— traffic stop. but she says he'd been stopped 5 or 6 times in the nosi— been stopped 5 or 6 times in the nosi owo— been stopped 5 or 6 times in the nosi iwo weors — been stopped 5 or 6 times in the past two years. she— been stopped 5 or 6 times in the past two years. she feels as inougn— past two years. she feels as inougn ne— past two years. she feels as though he had— past two years. she feels as though he had been picked upon by noiioe— though he had been picked upon by police officers— though he had been picked upon by police officers because of me— by police officers because of me ooiour— by police officers because of the colour of— by police officers because of the colour of his— by police officers because of the colour of his skin . / the colour of his skin. yeah, onu— the colour of his skin. yeah, onu moi-s— the colour of his skin. yeah, and that's certainly the feeling of most people in the ethnic communities . but of most people in the ethnic communities. but i do of most people in the ethnic communities . but i do have to communities. but i do have to say that he was only 17. you can't get a driving licence in france until the age of 18. so whatever else happened, he was driving illegally . but one thing driving illegally. but one thing that's particular clearly

angered people is that initially the police version of events was that the officer discharged his firearm arm because the car that the teenager was in was being dnven the teenager was in was being driven at speed towards him and his colleague . but then mobile his colleague. but then mobile phone footage which happened to have been filmed by a bystander , emerged, which seems to completely contradict the police version. it shows the two officers standing to the side of the vehicle. it's stationary. one of them is pointing his gun at the youth. then you see the car pulling away and you hear a shot being fired . now, last shot being fired. now, last night, the police officer's lawyer because this officer is now in prison awaiting trial on murder charges, his lawyer said that he had said sorry , that he that he had said sorry, that he was sorry for the teenager's death and he was sorry for the

family . but nevertheless, he was family. but nevertheless, he was sticking to his argument that he did the right thing, that he had to fire because there was potential danger either to him and to his colleague or to members of the public. but the pubuc members of the public. but the public prosecutor , tutor has public prosecutor, tutor has said that the evidence he's obtained so far from his preliminary inquiry , erie preliminary inquiry, erie appears to indicate that the conditions for a legal use of the officer's weapon were not met. no one comes out of this weii— met. no one comes out of this weii .— met. no one comes out of this weii . ine— met. no one comes out of this well , the police— no one comes out of this well , the police officer whose well, the police officer whose son— well, the police officer whose siow os— well, the police officer whose story was evidently less than iruiniui— story was evidently less than iruiniui .— story was evidently less than truthful , the— story was evidently less than truthful , the rioters who are truthful, the rioters who are iooing— truthful, the rioters who are iooiing oni— truthful, the rioters who are looting and burning cities across paris,— looting and burning cities across paris, but also the irenon— across paris, but also the french president, who himself nos— french president, who himself nos oome— french president, who himself has come under— french president, who himself has come under some criticism for has come under some criticism ior wniie— has come under some criticism for while cities— has come under some criticism for while cities were on fire mere.— for while cities were on fire inere. kno— for while cities were on fire there. and many- for while cities were on fire there. and many emmanuel macron was there. and many emmanuel macron oiienoing— there. and many emmanuel macron was attending an— there. and many emmanuel macron was attending an elton john oonoen— was attending an elton john oonoeri . — was attending an elton john concert . well,— was attending an elton john concert . 3:00... g“

was attending an elton john concert. 000... ”g“ concert. well, that's right. so he's inevitably faced criticism , particularly from right wing politicians , persons who say politicians, persons who say it's not a good look for the president to be photographed with elton john and his wife, brigitte , and elton john's brigitte, and elton john's husband , david furnish, on a husband, david furnish, on a night when many , many suburbs night when many, many suburbs around the country are going up in flames. and this such awful violence now . now, president violence now. now, president macron has also come under fire for his initial reaction to this shooting when he described it as inexcusable and incomprehensible and right wing politicians then jumped on him and said that it wasn't his role to judge whether the police officer was guilty or not, and that in france, you're always innocent until proven guilty . so they criticise him guilty. so they criticise him for that. now they're criticised izing him forjust seeming to go

about his life as normal as if nothing much were going on. well, david, jason , thank you so well, david, jason, thank you so muon— well, david, jason, thank you so muon ior— well, david, jason, thank you so much for comprehensively taking us inrougn— much for comprehensively taking us through that— much for comprehensively taking us through that story. no doubt it's us through that story. no doubt its going— us through that story. no doubt its going io— us through that story. no doubt its going io go— us through that story. no doubt it's going to go on and on and its— it's going to go on and on and its oe— it's going to go on and on and its we— it's going to go on and on and it's one we will— it's going to go on and on and it's one we will return to on nriioin-s— it's one we will return to on britain's newsroom. but for now , britain's newsroom. but for now . inonk— britain's newsroom. but for now . inonk wou— britain's newsroom. but for now .inonk wou wen— britain's newsroom. but for now , thank you very much for your iime— , thank you very much for your nine-morning— , thank you very much for your time-morning. - , thank you very much for your time morning . “00“ , thank you very much for your time-morning . yeah, i time this morning. yeah, and i wouiu— time this morning. yeah, and i wouiu ne— time this morning. yeah, and i would be concerned my would be concerned about my safety were in the parisian safety if i were in the parisian suburbs this weekend . i mean, or suburbs this weekend. i mean, or indeed, as he was— suburbs this weekend. i mean, or indeed, as he was saying- suburbs this weekend. i mean, or indeed, as he was saying ,- indeed, as he was saying, indeed.— indeed, as he was saying, indeed,_intol indeed, as he was saying. indeed,_into the indeed, obe closer into the oenire— indeed, obe closer into the centre .close_ indeed, obe closer into the centre .close into - indeed, obe closer into the centre indeed, obe closer into the- centre .close into the centre, centre. close into the centre, because it does look set to continue the weekend . continue over the weekend. really of cars really horrific scenes of cars being burnt out and shops being looted . let's hope that macron looted. let's hope that macron can grip of things sooner can get a grip of things sooner rather than later right here in britain. have a look at britain. let's have a look at today's newspapers, shall we? and we're pleased now to be joined conservative peer lord joined by conservative peer lord daniel and emma burnell daniel moylan and emma burnell to discuss the latest headlines. let's run you through some of them this morning. grounded hog day for rishi. see what they did there. that's on the metro. judges concluded that rwanda is not safe for channel migrants to be sent to and does sir a&e have

one more ace up his sleeve? the telegraph asks as the— 0 c. “ 7 the telegraph asks as the double wimnieoon— telegraph asks as the double wimbledon champion wore was up oneoo— wimbledon champion wore was up oneoo oi— wimbledon champion wore was up oneoo oi nis— wimbledon champion wore was up ahead of his battle— wimbledon champion wore was up ahead of his battle for the big one — ahead of his battle for the big one on— ahead of his battle for the big one on. i— ahead of his battle for the big title. oh, i hope— ahead of his battle for the big title. oh, i hope so.- ahead of his battle for the big title. c i: title. oh, i hope so. it'd be good to see him win again. the daily mail lead as well on the rwanda court ruling. we should decide here, not decide who comes here, not criminal front page criminal gangs. their front page says, and blueprints boost to boost the nhs workforce by 20,000, says the times. that's, of course we've been— $70 000 that's, of course we've been talking oioui— of course we've been talking onouiiooow. — of course we've been talking about today. big- of course we've been talking about today. 53 of course we've been talking about today. g of course we've been talking about today. 53 n about today. big news the nhs this morning. that's what the daily express is leading with ritchie's radical plan to fix the nhs once and for all, and mortgage deals are hiked again as big six banks raise their prices. that's the front page of the prices. that's the front page of me i. — prices. that's the front page of me i. no— prices. that's the front page of the i. the financial- prices. that's the front page of the i. the financial times- the i. the financial times headune the i. the financial times headline reads record withdrawals from banks as british households tap into savings. well, let's discuss oi— savings. well, let's discuss some of these— “35 well, let's discuss some of these stories now. lord nowion— some of these stories now. lord nowion is— some of these stories now. lord nowion is nero.— some of these stories now. lord moylan is here, as— some of these stories now. lord moylan is here, as is emma nurneii— moylan is here, as is emma burnell. and— moylan is here, as is emma burnell. and let's start with you,— burnell. and let's start with your ioni— burnell. and let's start with you, lord moylan. what story nowe— you, lord moylan. what story nowe wou— you, lord moylan. what story have you picked— you, lord moylan. what story have you picked out? 3:00... you, lord moylan. what story have you picked out? �*fwi�*0cc "0 have you picked out? well, we're noiiing.— have you picked out? well, we're starting, i think, with the

court of appeal's decision about the rwanda deportations . and the rwanda deportations. and it's gone against the government by a majority of 2 to 1. they will appeal and they'll appeal on the current facts, but they could also in the meantime, i don't know what they're going to do, but they could also try and improve the arrangements. they've with rwanda and they've agreed with rwanda and strengthened them . that strengthened them. that would address concerns of address some of the concerns of the think what it the court. i think what it illustrates to me, though, and probably heresy to say this is the random ness of court the sort of random ness of court decisions you know, government wins the court of appeal, and wins in the court of appeal, and then go to in the high then you go to in the high court, in the high court, then you go to the court of appeal and you win 2 to 1 on a sort of toss up where they're not they're not disagreeing. these judges about the law , they're judges about the law, they're disagreeing about sort of marginal interpretations of the facts . and then it will go to facts. and then it will go to the supreme court. apparently they're going to do that. and earlier on your program, you had a case saying that nobody knows

what the supreme court could decide. 50 could go either way. so the sort of random element to this that i think is quite frustrating for government, but also frustrating for people. and they don't understand why, you know, like tossing know, it's like tossing a rolling dice rather than settling the law sometimes. what do you think of the decision, emma i think judges judge , and emma i think judges judge, and that is, you know , their role, that is, you know, their role, their role is to interpret the law. they will. the reason inere-s— law. they will. the reason there's three _ law. they will. the reason there's three of— they will. the reason there's three of them doing it is neoouse— there's three of them doing it is because they— there's three of them doing it is because they do need to oisouss— is because they do need to discuss that— is because they do need to discuss that and decide between men. — discuss that and decide between men. oome— discuss that and decide between men. oome io— discuss that and decide between them. come to a— discuss that and decide between them. come to a majority eonsion.— them. come to a majority decision. sometimes that's a oomnieie— decision. sometimes that's a oomnieie. wou— decision. sometimes that's a complete, you know, 3—3 nails, someimesi— complete, you know, 3—3 nails, sometimes it's— complete, you know, 3—3 nails, sometimes it's not. _ complete, you know, 3—3 nails, sometimes it's not. but the law is in— sometimes it's not. but the law is in in— sometimes it's not. but the law is in in judgement— sometimes it's not. but the law is in in judgement and interpretation. that is our swsiem. — interpretation. that is our swsiem. ii-s— interpretation. that is our system. it's always been our swsiem. — system. it's always been our swsiem. nou— system. it's always been our system. you know. well, i say oiwows— system. you know. well, i say oiwows in— system. you know. well, i say always in modern— system. you know. well, i say always in modern times and i inink— always in modern times and i inink ine— always in modern times and i think the problem politically inoi— think the problem politically inoi ine— think the problem politically that the government has is that new— that the government has is that new noo— that the government has is that new noo oii— that the government has is that they had all of— that the government has is that they had all of their eggs in ms— they had all of their eggs in inis oe— they had all of their eggs in this one basket—

they had all of their eggs in this one basket sooner promised at this one basket sooner promised oi ine— this one basket sooner promised at the beginning— this one basket sooner promised at the beginning of the year. kno— at the beginning of the year. one wnen— at the beginning of the year. one wnen wou— at the beginning of the year. and when you make pledges on the 1st and when you make pledges on the isi oi— and when you make pledges on the isi oi ionuorw— and when you make pledges on the 1st of january, you're— 1st of january, you're essentially- 1st of january, you're essentially expected to deliver inem — essentially expected to deliver inem by— essentially expected to deliver inem by me — essentially expected to deliver them by the 31st— essentially expected to deliver them by the 31st of december. iwen— them by the 31st of december. iwen ii— them by the 31st of december. iwen ii wou— them by the 31st of december. even if you don't— them by the 31st of december. even if you don't put a timetable— even if you don't put a timetable on- even if you don't put a timetable on them , that he would timetable on them, that he would soon— timetable on them, that he would sion ine— timetable on them, that he would sion ine noois. — timetable on them, that he would stop the boats. now it may well be stop the boats. now it may well ne moi— stop the boats. now it may well ne mo in— stop the boats. now it may well be that in december when we're in ooio— be that in december when we're in cold weather— be that in december when we're in cold weather and there will be in cold weather and there will ne smoiier— in cold weather and there will be smaller numbers, but i don't inink— be smaller numbers, but i don't inink ononew— be smaller numbers, but i don't think anyone, whether they are inoreoiniw— think anyone, whether they are inoreoiniw in— think anyone, whether they are incredibly in favour of the kwonoo— incredibly in favour of the rwanda plan— incredibly in favour of the rwanda plan or as i am, find it, you— rwanda plan or as i am, find it, you know.— rwanda plan or as i am, find it, you know. reoiiw— rwanda plan or as i am, find it, you know, really quite troubling and you know, really quite troubling ono ininks— you know, really quite troubling and thinks that— you know, really quite troubling and thinks that the boats will be and thinks that the boats will ne sionneo— and thinks that the boats will be stopped this— and thinks that the boats will be stopped this year. and part of be stopped this year. and part oi ine— be stopped this year. and part of the problem _ be stopped this year. and part of the problem is— be stopped this year. and part of the problem is that they nowen-i— of the problem is that they haven't done— of the problem is that they haven't done all the other bits of haven't done all the other bits oi work— haven't done all the other bits oi work inoi— haven't done all the other bits of work that could have been oone— of work that could have been done because _ of work that could have been done because they must have known— done because they must have known inoi— done because they must have known that this— done because they must have known that this was a possibility— known that this was a possibility .- known that this was a possibility . we know that to possibility. we know that to wnoi— possibility. we know that to wnoi ine — possibility. we know that to what the government might say to that what the government might say to inoi is— what the government might say to inoi is inoi— what the government might say to that is that they— what the government might say to that is that they are— what the government might say to that is that they are hiring more processors and they have oone— more processors and they have done inis— more processors and they have done this new— more processors and they have done this new deal with france. mew-re— done this new deal with france. inew-re oreoiing— done this new deal with france. they're creating this— done this new deal with france. they're creating this sort- done this new deal with france. they're creating this sort of- they're creating this sort of detention centre near calais, which british taxpayers are paying which british taxpayers are paying for, but they might say that they're doing these other

bits as well. well there are smoii— bits as well. well there are small other— bits as well. well there are small other bits— bits as well. well there are small other bits ,- well there are small other bits , but the small other bits, but the nookiog — small other bits, but the nookiog is— small other bits, but the backlog is going up, not small other bits, but the backlog is going up , not down backlog is going up, not down one— backlog is going up, not down and ultimately— backlog is going up, not down and ultimately that's the facts . nou— and ultimately that's the facts . you know. — and ultimately that's the facts . you know, the— and ultimately that's the facts . you know, the facts of the case, are they— . you know, the facts of the case, are they are not dealing winn— case, are they are not dealing wiin ine— case, are they are not dealing with the backlog.— case, are they are not dealing with the backlog. they are not sionning— with the backlog. they are not sionning ine— with the backlog. they are not stopping the boats. i don't want to stopping the boats. i don't want io see— stopping the boats. i don't want io neonie— stopping the boats. i don't want to see people coming across in oongerous— to see people coming across in dangerous vessels— to see people coming across in dangerous vessels . i'm a dangerous vessels. i'm a iineroi— dangerous vessels. i'm a iineroi. i— dangerous vessels. i'm a liberal. i believe in a fairly iineroi— liberal. i believe in a fairly liberal asylum _ liberal. i believe in a fairly liberal asylum policy. but i oon-i— liberal asylum policy. but i oon-i neonie— liberal asylum policy. but i don't people are dying in in the ingiisn— don't people are dying in in the english channel.— don't people are dying in in the english channel. and that's not someining— english channel. and that's not something anybody would want to see. something anybody would want to now. i— something anybody would want to see. now, i would— something anybody would want to see. now, i would argue that one of see. now, i would argue that one oi ine— see. now, i would argue that one oi ine wows— see. now, i would argue that one oi ine wows io— see. now, i would argue that one of the ways to stop— see. now, i would argue that one of the ways to stop that is to nowe — of the ways to stop that is to nowe neiier— of the ways to stop that is to have better safe— of the ways to stop that is to have better safe and legal rouesi— have better safe and legal routes. other— have better safe and legal routes. other people will oisogree— routes. other people will disagree,-that- routes. other people will disagree, that is a disagree, and that is a nerieoiiw— disagree, and that is a- perfectly—discussion perfectly legitimate discussion inloemooroow— perfectly legitimate discussion inloemooroow .— perfectly legitimate discussion in democracy . but i think that in a democracy. but i think that not in a democracy. but i think that noi noi— in a democracy. but i think that noi noi going— in a democracy. but i think that not not doing enough of anything wrong— not not doing enough of anything wrong one— not not doing enough of anything wrong and putting— not not doing enough of anything wrong and putting all your eggs on o noiiow— wrong and putting all your eggs on o noiiow moi— wrong and putting all your eggs on a policy that you yourself oesorineo— on a policy that you yourself described as— on a policy that you yourself described as pushing the boundaries— described as pushing the boundaries of— described as pushing the boundaries of the law. so inereiore— boundaries of the law. so therefore, new— boundaries of the law. so therefore, new would be subject to therefore, new would be subject io iegoi— therefore, new would be subject to legal challenge is a real nroniem— to legal challenge is a real nroniem . — to legal challenge is a real problem . okay,- to legal challenge is a real problem . to legal challenge is a real- problem . okay, emma, let's stick problem. okay, emma, let's stick with you, shall we? and something that perhaps rishi sunak would prefer that we talk about. very embarrassing

about. it's very embarrassing day for him yesterday . he'd like day for him yesterday. he'd like us look at this reform , us to look at this nhs reform, which is the biggest in its history. let's about history. let's let's talk about that. yeah, i i'm here as a ionour— that. yeah, i i'm here as a labour supporter- that. yeah, i i'm here as a labour supporter ,- yeah, i i'm here as a labour supporter , the left wing labour supporter, the left wing eige— labour supporter, the left wing eoge oi— labour supporter, the left wing eoge oi ine— labour supporter, the left wing eoge oi ine oi— labour supporter, the left wing edge of the of the platform and i edge of the of the platform and i inink— edge of the of the platform and i mm is— edge of the of the platform and iinink is o— edge of the of the platform and i think it's a good— edge of the of the platform and i think it's a good plan you know— i think it's a good plan you know im— i think it's a good plan you know i'm not— i think it's a good plan you know i'm not i— i think it's a good plan you know i'm not i don't believe in in dismissing— know i'm not i don't believe in in dismissing something simply neoouse— in dismissing something simply neoouse ii-s— in dismissing something simply because it's proposed by a conservative— because it's proposed by a conservative government. i'm wen— conservative government. i'm wew muon— conservative government. i'm very muon iook— conservative government. i'm very much look forward to a ionour— very much look forward to a labour government delivering it, but labour government delivering it, nui-oiiiereni— labour government delivering it, but different matter . but that's a different matter. inon— but that's a different matter. inoi is— but that's a different matter. inoi is why— but that's a different matter. that is why it's— but that's a different matter. that is why it's so— but that's a different matter. that is why it's so interesting, isn't it? because seems to be isn't it? because it seems to be uniting sorry, tom. uniting people. sorry, tom. across the board, whatever political party, the nhs workforce is has clearly been struggling for a long time. we have huge problems with- have huge problems with reieniion— have huge problems with retention. we— have huge problems with retention. we have had problems wiin— retention. we have had problems with recruitment.— retention. we have had problems with recruitment. there are real wiin— with recruitment. there are real wiin pay— with recruitment. there are real issues with pay and not just pay neoouse— issues with pay and not just pay because we always— issues with pay and not just pay because we always talk about pay wnen— because we always talk about pay wnen we— because we always talk about pay wnen we ioik— because we always talk about pay when we talk about— because we always talk about pay when we talk about the strikes ono— when we talk about the strikes ono ewerwining— when we talk about the strikes and everything, but conditions one— and everything, but conditions and conditions— and everything, but conditions and conditions being particularly- and conditions being particularly hard and that being so oii— particularly hard and that being so oii nuiiing— particularly hard and that being so off putting and having people ieowe— so off putting and having people ieowe ine— so off putting and having people leave the thing— so off putting and having people leave the thing that i would now— leave the thing that i would noini oui— leave the thing that i would noini oui is— leave the thing that i would point out is that— leave the thing that i would point out is that we need an eguoi—

point out is that we need an eguoi omoun— point out is that we need an equal amount of— point out is that we need an equal amount of emphasis going on sooioi— equal amount of emphasis going on sooioi oore— equal amount of emphasis going on social care because you will noi— on social care because you will noi iik— on social care because you will noi no me— on social care because you will not fix the nhs— on social care because you will not fix the nhs without fixing sooioi— not fix the nhs without fixing sooioi oore— not fix the nhs without fixing social care. well,— not fix the nhs without fixing social care. well, lord moylan, iei-s— social care. well, lord moylan, iei-s nring— social care. well, lord moylan, iei-s nring wou— social care. well, lord moylan, let's bring you in— social care. well, lord moylan, let's bring you in on this one, neoouse— let's bring you in on this one, because this— let's bring you in on this one, because this is— let's bring you in on this one, because this is this the conservative- because this is this the conservative party just delivering _ conservative party just delivering a - conservative party just delivering a labour party noiiow. — delivering a labour party noiiow. is— delivering a labour party noiiow. is ii— delivering a labour party policy. is it right- delivering a labour party policy. c g“ delivering a labour party policy. c ” g“ 30 policy. is it right to describe this as the biggest reform of the nhs in its history? well, it's never right to talk- n “ “ 5037” well, it's never right to talk about me— it's never right to talk about me niggesi— it's never right to talk about the biggest reform of the nhs in its the biggest reform of the nhs in is nisiorw— the biggest reform of the nhs in its history, because the next is— its history, because the next is oiwows— its history, because the next one is always the biggest . and one is always the biggest. and it's one is always the biggest. and its work— one is always the biggest. and its very eosw— one is always the biggest. and its very eosw io— one is always the biggest. and it's very easy to fall into anernoie. — it's very easy to fall into hyperbole. it- it's very easy to fall into hyperbole. c it's very easy to fall into- hyperbole. it is what they said in 2012, wasn't it about the. but but the fact is , as emma but but the fact is, as emma sows— but but the fact is, as emma sows ii— but but the fact is, as emma sows ii is— but but the fact is, as emma says, it is sensible to look iorworo— says, it is sensible to look forward and— says, it is sensible to look forward and make an estimate of the forward and make an estimate of me son— forward and make an estimate of me son oi— forward and make an estimate of the sort of workforce that the nhs— the sort of workforce that the nnn is— the sort of workforce that the nnn is going— the sort of workforce that the nnn is going io— the sort of workforce that the nhs is going to need. the sort of workforce that the nhs is going to need . and nhs is going to need. and neoouse— nhs is going to need. and because people need training . so because people need training. so you on— because people need training. so you nion— because people need training. so you nion ior— because people need training. so you can plan for that and, and, ono— you can plan for that and, and, one no— you can plan for that and, and, and the truth— you can plan for that and, and, and the truth is— you can plan for that and, and, and the truth is we become far ioo— and the truth is we become far ioo oenenoeni— and the truth is we become far too dependent on— and the truth is we become far too dependent on hiring people irom— too dependent on hiring people irom onrooo— too dependent on hiring people from abroad and— too dependent on hiring people from abroad and we should be iroining— from abroad and we should be iroining oe— from abroad and we should be training more people here and we won-i— training more people here and we won-i oio— training more people here and we won-i oo inon— training more people here and we won't do that unless we have son— won't do that unless we have son oi— won't do that unless we have some sort of plan— won't do that unless we have some sort of plan for it. so the neo— some sort of plan for it. so the ioeo inoi— some sort of plan for it. so the idea that whether— some sort of plan for it. so the idea that whether this is the

rigni— idea that whether this is the rigni nion— idea that whether this is the rigni nion in— idea that whether this is the right plan in detail, i wouldn't know.— right plan in detail, i wouldn't know-haven't- right plan in detail, i wouldn't know.-haven't-at| right plan in detail, i wouldn't. know.-haven't-at it know. and i haven't looked at it one— know. and i haven't looked at it one-know— know. and i haven't looked at it one-know now- know. and i haven't looked at it and-know how i- know. and i haven't looked at it and know how i wouldn't and i don't know how i wouldn't know—o— and i don't know how i wouldn't know—a hospital- and i don't know how i wouldn't know a hospital and know how to run a hospital and now—wou— know how to run a hospital and now—you neeo- how many staff you need here doing— how many staff you need here doing inis— how many staff you need here doing this .that. - how many staff you need here doing this that. but doing this and that. but but nowing— doing this and that. but but nowinglnion— doing this and that. but but having plan seems to me having a plan seems to me a sensinie— having a plan seems to me a sensible idea— having a plan seems to me a sensible idea doesn't sensible idea and doesn't ooiuoiiw— sensible idea and doesn't actually belong to labour or conservative. _ actually belong to labour or conservative. and the fact that it conservative. and the fact that ii neiongs— conservative. and the fact that ii neiongs io— conservative. and the fact that it belongs to both is, is quite enoouroging— it belongs to both is, is quite encouraging. : �*7 encouraging. i wonder if this undermines delivered. undermines might be delivered. i wonder undermines wonder if this undermines slightly the conservatives argument for the last 3 or 4 years saying we've got x thousand more nurses , we've got thousand more nurses, we've got x thousand more doctors, which is a lot is true. there have been a lot more but i suppose more doctors, but i suppose they're admitting that even they're now admitting that even though there have been more though there have been lots more and more into and billions more poured into this it's still not this service, it's still not enough. well, it'll never be enougn— enough. well, it'll never be enougnline— enough. well, it'll never be enough-the nhs.- 0 3 well, it'll never be enough the nhs. and enough. well, it'll never be enough .the nhs. and fact enough in the nhs. and the fact is, enough in the nhs. and the fact is-more-inio- is, putting more money into nuiiio— is, putting more money into public services— is, putting more money into public services that are already wen— public services that are already wen-iunoeo— public services that are already very-funded and- public services that are already very funded and generally very well funded and generally ooesn-i— very well funded and generally doesn't produce— very well funded and generally doesn't produce better outcomes. kno— doesn't produce better outcomes. kno inis— doesn't produce better outcomes. kno inis is— doesn't produce better outcomes. kno inis is o— doesn't produce better outcomes. and this is a lesson— doesn't produce better outcomes. and this is a lesson we've got to and this is a lesson we've got io ieorn— and this is a lesson we've got io ieorn in— and this is a lesson we've got to learn in this— and this is a lesson we've got to learn in this country. it isn-i—monewi to learn in this country. it. isn't—money into isn't that you put money into someining— isn't that you put money into something and— isn't that you put money into something and you get better. oonoer— something and you get better. cancer survival— something and you get better. cancer survival rates, for exomnie— cancer survival rates, for example, which is an outcome you migni— example, which is an outcome you migni gei— example, which is an outcome you migni gei oe— example, which is an outcome you might get more nurses and oooiors— might get more nurses and doctors that— might get more nurses and doctors that might be good doctors that might be a good ming— doctors that might be a good ining-on— thing, but that's an intermediate point. the purpose

of intermediate point. the purpose oi ine— intermediate point. the purpose oi ine an— intermediate point. the purpose oi ine an is— intermediate point. the purpose of the nhs is not— intermediate point. the purpose of the nhs is not to employ more neonie.— of the nhs is not to employ more neonie. ii-s— of the nhs is not to employ more peopier ii-s io— of the nhs is not to employ more peopier ii-s io gei— of the nhs is not to employ more people, it's to get better outcomes for— people, it's to get better outcomes for some of these inings— outcomes for some of these inings inoi— outcomes for some of these things that rishi sunak is not not delivered— things that rishi sunak is not not delivered simply by pouring more money into— not delivered simply by pouring more money into the nhs . more money into the nhs. some of the more money into the nhs. some of me inings— more money into the nhs. some of me inings oioi— more money into the nhs. some of the things that rishi sunak is suggesting actually might save money and deliver better outcomes. this idea to use ai money and deliver better outcomes. this idea to use al to detect cancer that the human eye can't see see, that could be something that saves on money, saves on. i suppose, the need for people and actually delivers better outcomes . yeah. so there better outcomes. yeah. so there are better outcomes. yeah. so there inere— better outcomes. yeah. so there inere oe— better outcomes. yeah. so there are there are interesting- 0 yeah. so there are there are interesting planks to are there are interesting planks io inis— are there are interesting planks io inis .— are there are interesting planks io inis . ine— are there are interesting planks to this . the reliance on to this. the reliance on ieonnoiogw— to this. the reliance on technology and the changing oerioin— technology and the changing certain technologies from basic inings— certain technologies from basic inings iike— certain technologies from basic things like phone— certain technologies from basic things like phone systems at gps to things like phone systems at gps io reoiiw— things like phone systems at gps io reoiiw nign— things like phone systems at gps to really high complex things inon— to really high complex things inoi i— to really high complex things inoi i oon-i— to really high complex things that i don't understand at all, iike— that i don't understand at all, iike ki— that i don't understand at all, iike ki ono— that i don't understand at all, like ai and cancer— that i don't understand at all, like ai and cancer screenings. i i— like ai and cancer screenings. i mean, i can basically understand the mean, i can basically understand me nnone— mean, i can basically understand the phone system— mean, i can basically understand the phone system .— mean, i can basically understand the phone system . but yeah, i the phone system. but yeah, i inink— the phone system. but yeah, i inink mere— the phone system. but yeah, i think there are— the phone system. but yeah, i think there are lots of interesting— think there are lots of interesting parts to this . it interesting parts to this. it wni— interesting parts to this. it wiii ne— interesting parts to this. it will be interesting to see how it's implemented— will be interesting to see how it's implemented . okay. it's implemented. okay. emma ioni— it's implemented. okay. emma ioni nowion— it's implemented. okay. emma ioni nowion .— it's implemented. okay. emma lord moylan , really good to see lord moylan, really good to see you both. thank you very, very much for your time. well in the

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simple as it sounds? well we'll have the answer .— have the answer. sinoe— have the answer. since the - have the answer. since the new program on have the answer.— since the new program on friday morning. — since the new program on friday morning. britain's— since the new program on friday morning. “ n morning. britain's newsroom with you until 12 pm. esther and phil will be back with you at 10:00 tomorrow morning with saturday morning live and do get in touch with us today on any of the stories that we're talking about. vaiews@gbnews.com. we do love to hear from you. but first of all, let's get the news bulletin with rihanna . ali, bulletin with rihanna. ali, thank you. good morning. it's mei— thank you. good morning. it's now nour— thank you. good morning. it's 11:01. your top— thank you. good morning. it's 11:01. your top stories from the newsroom now.— 11:01. your top stories from the newsroom now. the government's iounoning— newsroom now. the government's launching what's— newsroom now. the government's launching what's being described as launching what's being described os ine— launching what's being described os ine mosi— launching what's being described as the most radical modernisation and reform of as the most radical— modernisation and reform of the an— modernisation and reform of the nnn in— modernisation and reform of the nnn in is— modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history— modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history .— modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history . ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the inin— nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary— nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary of the health serwioe— 75th anniversary of the health serwioe .— 75th anniversary of the health serwioe . ine— 75th anniversary of the health service , the 15— 75th anniversary of the health service , the 15 year plan will service, the 15 year plan will oim — service, the 15 year plan will oim io— service, the 15 year plan will oim io niug— service, the 15 year plan will aim to plug shortages of over sooooo— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff in— aim to plug shortages of over 300,000 staff in england , with 300,000 staff in england, with izi— 300,000 staff in england, with one niiiion— 300,000 staff in england, with £24 billion worth— 300,000 staff in england, with £2.4 billion worth of funding

iiwe— £2.4 billion worth of funding over five years. _ £2.4 billion worth of funding over five years. it focuses on reioining— over five years. it focuses on reioining ono— over five years. it focuses on retaining and training staff as weii— retaining and training staff as weii os— retaining and training staff as well as adopting— retaining and training staff as well as adopting advanced technologies— well as adopting advanced technologies like ai health seoreiow— technologies like ai health secretary steve _ technologies like ai health secretary steve barclay told us reormi— secretary steve barclay told us reorrni iike— secretary steve barclay told us reform like this— secretary steve barclay told us reform like this has been a long iime— reform like this has been a long iime ooming— reform like this has been a long iime ooming. — reform like this has been a long time coming . it's— reform like this has been a long time coming . c 0.0“ i300 time coming. it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we can ensure that we get the treatment , the extra capacity treatment, the extra capacity into the system . but what today into the system. but what today is also about it is responding to something the nhs has asked for many years , which is to have for many years, which is to have a long term plan. it will be iterative. it's not a one off. we'll keep coming back to it and working on it. in terms of as the modelling evolves . while the modelling evolves. while shadow health— : “g while shadow health secretary wes sireeiing— shadow health secretary wes sireeiing sows— shadow health secretary wes streeting says it's taken too iong— streeting says it's taken too iong io— streeting says it's taken too long to implement the measures, why— long to implement the measures, wby oo— long to implement the measures, why do we— long to implement the measures, why do we need— long to implement the measures, why do we need the biggest ension— why do we need the biggest enonsion oi— why do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in nisiowe — expansion of nhs staff in nisiowe why— expansion of nhs staff in history? in“ 00 expansion of nhs staff in history? 00 5.0“ expansion of nhs staff in- history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs ? it's because understaffed nhs? it's because for the last 13 years years we've not had add a workforce plan . it is we've not had add a workforce plan. it is the we've not had add a workforce plan . it is the biggest plan. it is the biggest expansion since the last labour

government, which delivered 75,000 more nurses . and 44,000 75,000 more nurses. and 44,000 more doctors as zac goldsmith has resigned from government, a day after the tory minister was named in a privileges committee report that interfering in boris johnson's party probe, it's understood he was asked to apologise for his alleged role to undermine the investigation in his resignation letter, lord goldsmith accuses the government of apathy on climate change, saying it made his role as minister for international environment untenable. he also claims prime minister- “ 0. he also claims prime minister rishi sunok— claims prime minister rishi sunok is— claims prime minister rishi sunak is uninformed listed in the environment— sunak is uninformed listed in the environment act and more on moi— the environment act and more on inoi nreoking— the environment act and more on that breaking news— the environment act and more on that breaking news story we nroke— that breaking news story we broke earlier— that breaking news story we broke earlier .— that breaking news story we broke earlier . police have broke earlier. police have iounoneo— broke earlier. police have launched a— broke earlier. police have launched a double murder investigation— launched a double murder investigation after a teenager ono— investigation after a teenager one o— investigation after a teenager one o zo— investigation after a teenager one o no weor— investigation after a teenager and a 23 year old man was sionneo— and a 23 year old man was sionneo in— and a 23 year old man was stabbed in islington in north ionoon— stabbed in islington in north ionoon iosi— stabbed in islington in north london last night. a third wioiim — london last night. a third wioiim os— london last night. a third victim was also found with a sion— victim was also found with a sion ouno — victim was also found with a stab wound. his— victim was also found with a stab wound. his condition isn't inougni— stab wound. his condition isn't inougni io— stab wound. his condition isn't inougni io ne— stab wound. his condition isn't thought to be life— stab wound. his condition isn't thought to be life threatening . thought to be life threatening. no orressi— thought to be life threatening. no arrests have— thought to be life threatening. no arrests have been made and wow— no arrests have been made and we-ii gei— no arrests have been made and wow gei wou— no arrests have been made and we'll get you more— no arrests have been made and we'll get you more on that as we

get we'll get you more on that as we gei ii.— we'll get you more on that as we get it. households— we'll get you more on that as we get it. households in the uk. wni— get it. households in the uk. wiii pay— get it. households in the uk. wiii now iess— get it. households in the uk. will pay less for— get it. households in the uk. will pay less for their gas and eieoirioiiw— will pay less for their gas and electricity from _ will pay less for their gas and electricity from tomorrow, but niiis— electricity from tomorrow, but niiis wni— electricity from tomorrow, but bills will remain— electricity from tomorrow, but bills will remain higher than new— bills will remain higher than new ewe— bills will remain higher than they were before the energy orisis— they were before the energy orisis .— they were before the energy orisis . s— they were before the energy orisis . s o— they were before the energy crisis . s a new— they were before the energy crisis. s a new price cap set by me— crisis. s a new price cap set by me reguioior— crisis. s a new price cap set by the regulator ofgem comes into eiieoi— the regulator ofgem comes into eiieoi inis— the regulator ofgem comes into effect this weekend . it will see effect this weekend. it will see nousenoios— effect this weekend. it will see households with— effect this weekend. it will see households with typical energy usoge— households with typical energy usoge now— households with typical energy usage pay £2,074. that's a fall of usage pay £2,074. that's a fall oi ioreo— usage pay £2,074. that's a fall oi me o— usage pay £2,074. that's a fall oi me o weor. — usage pay £2,074. that's a fall of £426 a year. however, bills wni— of £426 a year. however, bills wiii emoin— of £426 a year. however, bills will remain a— of £426 a year. however, bills will remain a lot— of £426 a year. however, bills will remain a lot higher than new— will remain a lot higher than new ewe— will remain a lot higher than they were two _ will remain a lot higher than they were two years ago. £800 more expensive _ they were two years ago. £800 more expensive .— they were two years ago. £800 more expensive . that's almost more expensive. that's almost oounie— more expensive. that's almost oounie ine— more expensive. that's almost double the duke— more expensive. that's almost double the duke of sussex's iowsuii— double the duke of sussex's lawsuit against— double the duke of sussex's lawsuit against mirror group newsnoners— lawsuit against mirror group newspapers over allegations of mono— newspapers over allegations of nnone nooking— newspapers over allegations of phone hacking is— newspapers over allegations of phone hacking is due to conclude iooiow— phone hacking is due to conclude iooow. ine— phone hacking is due to conclude today. the trial— phone hacking is due to conclude today. the trial is— phone hacking is due to conclude today. the trial is over alleged uniowiui— today. the trial is over alleged unlawful information gathering . unlawful information gathering. neiween— unlawful information gathering. neiween iono— unlawful information gathering. between 1996 and 2011. the nirror— between 1996 and 2011. the nirror oroun— between 1996 and 2011. the mirror group denies any wrongdoing— mirror group denies any wrongdoing .— mirror group denies any wrongdoing . meanwhile a court wrongdoing. meanwhile a court has wrongdoing. meanwhile a court nos neon— wrongdoing. meanwhile a court has been told— wrongdoing. meanwhile a court has been told oscar winning ooior— has been told oscar winning ooior kewin— has been told oscar winning actor kevin spacey is a sexual nuiiw— actor kevin spacey is a sexual nuiiw wno— actor kevin spacey is a sexual bully who delights in making oiners— bully who delights in making oiners ieei—

bully who delights in making others feel uncomfortable. prosecutors— others feel uncomfortable. prosecutors described the noiiwwooo— prosecutors described the hollywood star as a man who sekuoiiw— hollywood star as a man who sexually assaults— hollywood star as a man who sexually assaults other men at the sexually assaults other men at me sion— sexually assaults other men at me sion oi— sexually assaults other men at me sion oi o— sexually assaults other men at the start of a four— sexually assaults other men at the start of a four week trial at southwark— the start of a four week trial at southwark crown court. the oooirs— at southwark crown court. the oooirs iooing— at southwark crown court. the actor's facing 12— at southwark crown court. the actor's facing 12 charges of sex oiienoes— actor's facing 12 charges of sex offences against— actor's facing 12 charges of sex offences against four men, which oiiegeoiw— offences against four men, which oiiegeoiw iook— offences against four men, which allegedly took place between 200i— allegedly took place between 200i ono— allegedly took place between 2001 and 2013.— allegedly took place between 2001 and 2013. mr spacey denies all 2001 and 2013. mr spacey denies oii oi— 2001 and 2013. mr spacey denies oii oi ine— 2001 and 2013. mr spacey denies all of the charges— 2001 and 2013. mr spacey denies all of the charges against him . all of the charges against him. in all of the charges against him. in ironoe— all of the charges against him. in france, president emmanuel nooron— in france, president emmanuel iiooron is— in france, president emmanuel macron is holding a second orisis— macron is holding a second crisis meeting— macron is holding a second crisis meeting following the worsi— crisis meeting following the worsi nigni— crisis meeting following the worst night of— crisis meeting following the worst night of rioting yet over the worst night of rioting yet over me noiioe— worst night of rioting yet over the police shooting of a ieenoger— the police shooting of a teenager. more than 650 people were arrested— teenager. more than 650 people were arrested and— teenager. more than 650 people were arrested and 40,000 oiiioers— were arrested and 40,000 officers deployed across the oounirw— officers deployed across the oounirw os— officers deployed across the country as clashes continued for a country as clashes continued for o iniro— country as clashes continued for oiniro nigni— country as clashes continued for a third night, vehicles were ioroneo— a third night, vehicles were torched and— a third night, vehicles were torched and supermarkets renoneoiw— torched and supermarkets reportedly looted during the wioieno — reportedly looted during the violence. protesters are oemonoing— violence. protesters are demanding justice for the 17 weor— demanding justice for the 17 weor oioi— demanding justice for the 17 year old known— demanding justice for the 17 year old known only as nahal m, wno— year old known only as nahal m, wno os— year old known only as nahal m, wno snoi— year old known only as nahal m, who was shot at— year old known only as nahal m, who was shot at when he failed to who was shot at when he failed io sion— who was shot at when he failed io sion nis— who was shot at when he failed io sion nis oor— who was shot at when he failed to stop his car in— who was shot at when he failed to stop his car in nanterre on iuesoow—

to stop his car in nanterre on iuesoow .— to stop his car in nanterre on iuesoow . io— to stop his car in nanterre on tuesday . 16 million brits will tuesday. 16 million brits will irom— tuesday. 16 million brits will from tomorrow— tuesday. 16 million brits will from tomorrow be able to live ono— from tomorrow be able to live one work— from tomorrow be able to live one work in— from tomorrow be able to live and work in australia after the age— and work in australia after the oge iimii— and work in australia after the oge iimii ior— and work in australia after the age limit for working holiday isos— age limit for working holiday is— age limit for working holiday visas is raised— age limit for working holiday visas is raised from 30 to 35. me— visas is raised from 30 to 35. ne iso— visas is raised from 30 to 35. the visa duration— visas is raised from 30 to 35. the visa duration will also be ekienoeo— the visa duration will also be extended from _ the visa duration will also be extended from 2— the visa duration will also be extended from 2 to 3 years wiinoui— extended from 2 to 3 years without the _ extended from 2 to 3 years without the need for consecutive snows— without the need for consecutive siows or— without the need for consecutive siows or iorm — without the need for consecutive stays or farm work.— without the need for consecutive stays or farm work. the free nrooe— stays or farm work. the free trade agreement— stays or farm work. the free trade agreement between the two oueiis— trade agreement between the two countries enables— trade agreement between the two countries enables similar arrangements— countries enables similar arrangements for australians to work— arrangements for australians to work ono— arrangements for australians to work and travel— arrangements for australians to work and travel here in the uk ono— work and travel here in the uk one no— work and travel here in the uk one no king— work and travel here in the uk and the king will— work and travel here in the uk and the king will receive a sneoioi— and the king will receive a special sword— and the king will receive a special sword named the iiizonein— special sword named the elizabeth when he visits ioiniurgn— elizabeth when he visits edinburgh next week. king onories— edinburgh next week. king charles will— edinburgh next week. king charles will be presented with the charles will be presented with ine sworn— charles will be presented with the sword before— charles will be presented with the sword before a service of inonksgiwing— the sword before a service of thanksgiving at— the sword before a service of thanksgiving at saint giles ooineoroi— thanksgiving at saint giles cathedral on— thanksgiving at saint giles cathedral on wednesday. the iiizonein — cathedral on wednesday. the elizabeth, inspired by thistles ono— elizabeth, inspired by thistles and scotland's— elizabeth, inspired by thistles and scotland's landscape reniooes— and scotland's landscape replaces the— and scotland's landscape replaces the deteriorating sword of replaces the deteriorating sword oi sioie— replaces the deteriorating sword oi sioie ono— replaces the deteriorating sword of state and very— replaces the deteriorating sword of state and very beautiful . it of state and very beautiful. it is ioo.— of state and very beautiful. it is ioo. inis— of state and very beautiful. it is too. this is— of state and very beautiful. it is too. this is gb— of state and very beautiful. it is too. this is gb news will nring— is too. this is gb news will nring wou— is too. this is gb news will bring you more— is too. this is gb news will bring you more as it happens. now— bring you more as it happens. now inougn— bring you more as it happens. now though, it's— bring you more as it happens. now though, it's back over to iiiie— now though, it's back over to iiiie ono— now though, it's back over to

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place-britain .— biggest stories that are taking place britain . having said place in britain. having said that,— place in britain. having said that, one— place in britain. having said that, ot— place in britain. having said that, one of biggest stories that, one of the biggest stories to us— that, one of the biggest stories to us tn— that, one of the biggest stories to us tn the— that, one of the biggest stories to us in the lead— that, one of the biggest stories to us in the lead in but aside trom— to us in the lead in but aside tom the— to us in the lead in but aside from the-and— to us in the lead in but aside from the-and of- to us in the lead in but aside from the and of course from the nhs and of course rwanda— from the nhs and of course twantt ant— from the nhs and of course rwanda and all,— from the nhs and of course rwanda and all, a really top government— rwanda and all, a really top government resignation in testgntttttt— government resignation in resignation, right. government resignation in- resignation,-right. what resignation, you're right. what we've—notl we've been focusing on is not focusing , not focusing on what focusing, not focusing on what we've been touching upon is a swan is a swan got its way onto the elizabeth line tracks yesterday suspended the entire elizabeth line for over an hour. passengers were stuck on trains for passengers were stuck on trains tor over— passengers were stuck on trains for over an hour— passengers were stuck on trains for over an hour without a loo in some cases. i— for over an hour without a loo in some cases. i was saying that-s— in some cases. i was saying tttt-s ttgtt— in some cases. i was saying that's right, because they're protected— that's right, because they're protected animals and you've got to te— protected animals and you've got to te tatetut— protected animals and you've got to be careful with— protected animals and you've got to be careful with the swans and i to be careful with the swans and . tttnt— to be careful with the swans and . tttnt that— to be careful with the swans and i think that maybe— to be careful with the swans and i think that maybe potentially tunttets— hundreds of people, probably thousands— hundreds of people, probably ttoustntt ,— hundreds of people, probably thousands , probably tens of thousands, probably tens of thousands— thousands of people, i don't tttnt— thousands of people, i don't think exaggeration, think that's an exaggeration, tttuttty. — think that's an exaggeration, actually. -look- think that's an exaggeration, actually. -look at. think that's an exaggeration, actually. if you look at the frequency trains being frequency of the trains being disrupted think disrupted for one swan, i think that that's an imbalance. so tom thinks we should have— that that's an imbalance. so tom thinks we should have run- a" so tom thinks we should have run over the—ts- thinks we should have run over the—ts twtutl the swan. i think that is awful . jeff— the swan. i think that is awful . jeff says— the swan. i think that is awful . jeff says the— the swan. i think that is awful . jeff says the trouble is. tom untortuntte— . jeff says the trouble is. tom unfortunate swans cannot read the-regatttng— unfortunate swans cannot read the regarding trespassing the signs regarding trespassing on the— the signs regarding trespassing on the u...— the signs regarding trespassing on the line, which is a fantastic— on the line, which is a fantastic point. yeah. jeff, you-te— fantastic point. yeah. jeff, you-re ttgtt— fantastic point. yeah. jeff, you're right. the swans can't read it's. i said. read the signs. it's. i said. i said little earlier. well, said a little earlier. well, can't them the can't we keep them off the

tracks.7 thinking of tracks.7 i'm just thinking of practical solutions to avoid stopping a train that's meant to run every couple of minutes being delayed for over over an houn being delayed for over over an hour. i don't think we've reached solution yet. and reached a solution yet. and jeff. jeff, you're right. signs wouldn't i just wouldn't work. but but i just don't think we can let swans just wander about. tracks just at their own accord. beautiful creatures. but. but i mean , my creatures. but. but i mean, my gosh, can we not find a solution here? vaiews@gbnews.com. let's fix britain . yeah. what should fix britain. yeah. what should tave— fix britain. yeah. what should have teen— fix britain. yeah. what should have been done— ”x " yeah. what should have been done about the swan? ant— have been done about the swan? ant to— have been done about the swan? ant to te— have been done about the swan? and to be honest,— have been done about the swan? and to be honest, i— have been done about the swan? and to be honest, i don't think the and to be honest, i don't think tne swan— and to be honest, i don't think the swan wanted— and to be honest, i don't think the swan wanted to be there ettnen— the swan wanted to be there ettnen to — the swan wanted to be there ettnen to te — the swan wanted to be there either to be fair.— the swan wanted to be there either to be fair. best, either to be fair. so it's best, tt-s— either to be fair. so it's best, tt-s test— either to be fair. so it's best, tt-s test tutt— either to be fair. so it's best, it's best just to— either to be fair. so it's best, it's best just to be shooed away , i it's best just to be shooed away tii-in_ it's best just to be shooed away ,lt-tn-not- it's best just to be shooed away ,lt-tn-not beingl , as i said in piece, not being nun-ot— , as i said in piece, not being nun-et conne- , as i said in piece, not being run of course aside run over. but of course aside tren— run over. but of course aside teen tne— run over. but of course aside from the swans,— run over. but of course aside from the swans, it's been a very big from the swans, it's been a very ttg day— from the swans, it's been a very ttg day tn— from the swans, it's been a very ttg day tn newe— from the swans, it's been a very big day in news. it's been a big day— big day in news. it's been a big day-politics— big day in news. it's been a big day-politics ee— big day in news. it's been a big day politics as well, hasn't day in politics as well, hasn't it? day in politics as well, hasn't tte—tnne- day in politics as well, hasn't it? prime minister it? it has. the prime minister is it? it has. the prime minister te-nnet-e- it? it has. the prime minister is-what's being. is launching what's being teeentet— is launching what's being- described—radical described as the most radical eennt— described as the most radical eennt et— described as the most radical reform of-the- described as the most radical reform of the service's reform of the in the service's nteten— reform of the in the service's nteten .— reform of the in the service's nteten . tne— reform of the in the service's history . the 15— reform of the in the service's history . the 15 year old, the 15 history. the 15 year old, the 15 teen— history. the 15 year old, the 15 yen nten— history. the 15 year old, the 15 yen nten nttt— history. the 15 year old, the 15 year plan will aim— history. the 15 year old, the 15 year plan will aim to plug eneneeee— year plan will aim to plug enenegee et— year plan will aim to plug shortages of up to 360,000 staff ent— shortages of up to 360,000 staff and enve— shortages of up to 360,000 staff and save taxpayers— shortages of up to 360,000 staff and save taxpayers £10 billion. wett— and save taxpayers £10 billion. wen, tne— and save taxpayers £10 billion.

well, the health— and save taxpayers £10 billion. well, the health secretary, steve— well, the health secretary, steve barclay,— well, the health secretary, steve barclay, says that the nhs has steve barclay, says that the nhs nee teen— steve barclay, says that the nhs has been cooling— steve barclay, says that the nhs has been cooling for a long term nten— has been cooling for a long term nten ute— has been cooling for a long term nten ttte tne— has been cooling for a long term plan like the one— has been cooling for a long term plan like the one the government is plan like the one the government te nnvetttne— plan like the one the government is unveiling today. _ plan like the one the government is unveiling today. for some ttne. tt-e— is unveiling today. for some ttne. tt-e ee— is unveiling today. for some time. it's so we— is unveiling today. for some time. it's so we can- is unveiling today. c it's so we can get those time. it's so we can get those netttng— time. it's so we can get those netttng ttete— time. it's so we can get those waiting lists down— c it's so we can get those waiting lists down so we can tnet— waiting lists down so we can ensure that we— waiting lists down so we can ensure that we get the treatment,— ensure that we get the treatment, the extra capacity tnte— treatment, the extra capacity tnte tne— treatment, the extra capacity into the system.— treatment, the extra capacity into the system. but what today is into the system. but what today te atte— into the system. but what today te etee attent— into the system. but what today is also about is— into the system. but what today is also about is responding to eenetntne— is also about is responding to something the— is also about is responding to something the nhs has asked for many— something the nhs has asked for many teen— something the nhs has asked for many years, which— something the nhs has asked for many years, which is to have a tene— many years, which is to have a tone tenn— many years, which is to have a tone tern nten. — many years, which is to have a long term plan. it— many years, which is to have a long term plan. it will be ttenttve. — long term plan. it will be iterative. it's— long term plan. it will be iterative. it's not a one off. wett— iterative. it's not a one off. wett teen— iterative. it's not a one off. we'll keep coming back to it and netttng— we'll keep coming back to it and netttne en— we'll keep coming back to it and netttne en t— we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in— we'll keep coming back to it and working on it in terms of as the netetttne— working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves. _ working on it in terms of as the modelling evolves. but shadow neettn— modelling evolves. but shadow health secretary— modelling evolves. but shadow health secretary wes streeting eett — health secretary wes streeting eett tne — health secretary wes streeting said the government should have taken— said the government should have taken anten— said the government should have taken action long— said the government should have taken action long ago. kitty 7’ why taken action long ago. why? why do taken action long ago. why? why to we— taken action long ago. why? why to we need— taken action long ago. why? why to we need tne— taken action long ago. �*ftt�*y?’ why do we need the biggest expansion of do we need the biggest expansion et nns— do we need the biggest expansion et nns sten— do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in— do we need the biggest expansion of nhs staff in history? why do we newe— of nhs staff in history? why do we newe ewen— of nhs staff in history? why do we have such an— of nhs staff in history? why do we have such an understaffed nhs 7 we have such an understaffed nhs e tt-e— we have such an understaffed nhs e tt-e teeeewe— we have such an understaffed nhs ? it's because for— we have such an understaffed nhs ? it's because for the last 30 ween— ? it's because for the last 30 years we've not— ? it's because for the last 30 years we've not had a workforce nten— years we've not had a workforce nten .— years we've not had a workforce nten . tt— years we've not had a workforce nten . t n— years we've not had a workforce nten . t n tne— years we've not had a workforce plan . it is the biggest plan. it is the biggest expansion— plan. it is the biggest expansion since the last labour geweent— expansion since the last labour government, which delivered moo— government, which delivered moo nee— government, which delivered 75,000 more nurses and 44,000 tecton—

75,000 more nurses and 44,000 more doctors as— 75,000 more nurses and 44,000 more doctors as well. . more doctors as well. despite the criticisms, the nhs announcement is a welcome distraction for the government . distraction for the government. perhaps after suffering a blow to their rwanda policy. yes yesterday the high court deemed the yesterday the high court deemed tne notew— yesterday the high court deemed the policy unlawful, but downing street— the policy unlawful, but downing street insists— the policy unlawful, but downing street insists it— the policy unlawful, but downing street insists it will appeal tnet— street insists it will appeal tnet nwttne. — street insists it will appeal that ruling. conservative mps have called for a plan b to tackle the small boats crisis as the home secretary suella braverman told mps the court's decision is disappointing . decision is disappointing. writing for the majority of the british people. well, we're joined— british people. well, we're joined new— british people. well, we're joined tw— british people. well, we're joined now by uk- c s" well, we're joined now by uk director c 5" well, we're joined now by uk director of more in common— joined now by uk director of more in common luke trill. teettw— more in common luke trill. teettw teet— more in common luke trill. really good to— more in common luke trill. really good to see you this nenntnn— really good to see you this morning, luke.— really good to see you this morning, luke. thank you so much for morning, luke. thank you so much ten yew— morning, luke. thank you so much ten yew companv-_ morning, luke. thank you so much ten yew eenneny. .— morning, luke. thank you so much for your company. i just wanted to for your company. i just wanted te eet— for your company. i just wanted te eet yew— for your company. i just wanted to ask you about— for your company. i just wanted to ask you about the home secretary-e— to ask you about the home secretary's comments . suella secretary's comments. suella braverman telling mps yesterday that braverman telling mps yesterday tnet tnn— braverman telling mps yesterday tnet tnte wee— braverman telling mps yesterday that this was disappointing for the that this was disappointing for tne nay-enw— that this was disappointing for tne nay-enty et— that this was disappointing for the majority of british people. wette— the majority of british people. wewtt yew— the majority of british people. would you agree— the majority of british people. would you agree with that etetenent— would you agree with that statement? _ would you agree with that statement ? yeti“ would you agree with that- statement ? well, i think public statement? well, i think public attitudes to the rwanda policy are more nuanced than were often led to believe. i mean , start led to believe. i mean, start with there is no doubt that right across the public, people want channel crossings to be

stopped. they think they're unfair. they think that they empower people smugglers and they don't like the fact that we don't seem to have control over our borders. if you ask them about the rwanda policy directly in a poll, what they what will tend to come out is that more people support it than not. but we've never had a majority in pubuc we've never had a majority in public polling say that they support the plan. and then if you ask them the second question, which is do you think this plan will work ? usually you this plan will work? usually you get quite a big majority saying they don't think it will. so there's a lot of different facets. people want the boats to stop . more say they support stop. more say they support rwanda than don't, but then say it won't work . and it won't work. and interestingly, when you ask people about, you know, should we be deporting genuine refugees to rwanda, then the public say no. so when they get into the details of the plan, they actually like it a lot less . actually like it a lot less. it's interesting people- it's interesting people making tnet— it's interesting people making that distinction— it's interesting people making that distinction there between economic migrants who they tettewe— economic migrants who they believe should— economic migrants who they believe should be deported

versus genuine— believe should be deported versus genuine refugees who they ten-t.— versus genuine refugees who they ten-t. nut— versus genuine refugees who they ten-t. new tune— versus genuine refugees who they don't. but luke ,— versus genuine refugees who they don't. but luke , i— versus genuine refugees who they don't. but luke , i know you've don't. but luke, i know you've tene— don't. but luke, i know you've tene ee— don't. but luke, i know you've tene ee nwen— don't. but luke, i know you've done so much polling and you've tene— done so much polling and you've tene teete— done so much polling and you've done focus groups— done so much polling and you've done focus groups around this. i went— done focus groups around this. i went te— done focus groups around this. i went te eet— done focus groups around this. i went te eet yew— done focus groups around this. i want to ask you about something tnet— want to ask you about something tnet went— want to ask you about something tnet went e— want to ask you about something that went a little— want to ask you about something that went a little viral on eeetet— that went a little viral on social media— that went a little viral on social media last night and this nenntne— social media last night and this morning, which— social media last night and this morning, which is— social media last night and this morning, which is the question, the morning, which is the question, tne enc— morning, which is the question, the bbc question— morning, which is the question, the bbc question time. audience yest— the bbc question time. audience wee tney— the bbc question time. audience wee tney wee— the bbc question time. audience yes, they were asked, does enyene— yes, they were asked, does ye et— yes, they were asked, does anyone at all— yes, they were asked, does anyone at all support this policy?— anyone at all support this netteye we— anyone at all support this policy? no no— anyone at all support this policy? no no one in that ewttenee— policy? no no one in that audience put— policy? no no one in that audience put up their hand. that teeen-t— audience put up their hand. that teeen-t eewnt— audience put up their hand. that doesn't sound like— audience put up their hand. that doesn't sound like it matches wttn— doesn't sound like it matches wttn tne— doesn't sound like it matches with the polling— doesn't sound like it matches with the polling you've been tene— with the polling you've been tetne .— with the polling you've been tetng . ny— with the polling you've been doing . my question is, is the doing. my question is, is the ewttenee— doing. my question is, is the audience unrepresentative on wet— audience unrepresentative on tnet preteen — audience unrepresentative on tnet program er— audience unrepresentative on that program or is there some een— that program or is there some een et— that program or is there some een et etner— that program or is there some sort of other effect going on tene— sort of other effect going on nere, eeetet— sort of other effect going on here, social embarrassment or eenetntne— here, social embarrassment or something about— here, social embarrassment or something about what people feel wnen— something about what people feel wnen tney-re — something about what people feel when they're asked— something about what people feel when they're asked to up when they're asked to put up tnetr— when they're asked to put up tnet-tn— when they're asked to put up their-in public? - when they're asked to put up their in public? / c their hand in public? yeah, it's a their hand in public? yeah, it's e gent— their hand in public? yeah, it's a good question , ian. and as i a good question, ian. and as i said, you know, people when they get the details the get into the details of the rwanda concerns. but rwanda policy have concerns. but when focus group or when we in a focus group or in a poll ask that straight question, we would never get that sort of resounding silence for people being in favour of the rwanda policy . and i think there are policy. and i think there are two reasons that you hinted at

why that question time audience doesn't capture the public doesn't quite capture the public mood. firstly, what's known as social desirability bias , the social desirability bias, the sense that actually you don't want to put your hand up and back, something that you think other judge for other people might judge you for . suspect was some . so i suspect there was some shy supporters of the policy there. and then the second thing is, you to remember is, you have to remember that even question time tries even the question time tries really get politically really hard to get a politically balanced audience. they are much more highly engaged than the average voter. most average voters want to sit and voters don't want to sit and watch politics show for watch a politics show for two hours. to say this to hours. i'm sorry to say this to the of you. um so they're the two of you. um so they're getting people who are generally kind of highly engaged and kind of more highly engaged and that tends to make them slightly more liberal as so those more liberal as well. so those two reasons meant, you know, i know of people saw it and know lots of people saw it and they're everyone they're like, wow, everyone hates not quite hates the policy. it's not quite true. actually, campaigners true. and actually, campaigners would focusing the would be better focusing on the fact don't want to fact that people don't want to see, victims of see, for instance, victims of modern slavery, women, children being deported to rwanda. they want us to clamp down on economic migrants and crucially , people smugglers. luke trill,

really , people smugglers. luke trill, reetty geet— , people smugglers. luke trill, reetty good te— , people smugglers. luke trill, really good to see— , people smugglers. luke trill, really good to see you- 33 luke trill, really good to see you this nerntne. — really good to see you this morning. thank- really good to see you this morning. thank so really good to see you this morning. thank-so for morning. thank you so much for yew— morning. thank you so much for yewr enetyete— morning. thank you so much for yewr enetyete . — morning. thank you so much for your analysis . well,- morning. thank you so much for your analysis . kerri“ your analysis. well, let's move on to this other big story that is affecting rishi sunak today. perhaps it's not it's not the best in—tray he has this morning, but allies of boris johnson have come under fire from the privileges committee with a report accusing them of improper pressure on mps investigating partygate . yes, investigating partygate. yes, seven mps and three 9.1 g 3 yes, seven mps and three peers g: g g yes, seven mps and three peers were nenet— seven mps and three peers were nenet tn— seven mps and three peers were nenet tn tne— seven mps and three peers were named in the report, with the eenntttee— named in the report, with the committee suggesting they could eetenttetty— committee suggesting they could netenttetty te— committee suggesting they could potentially be in— committee suggesting they could potentially be in contempt of rerttenent. — potentially be in contempt of parliament. and— potentially be in contempt of parliament. r: potentially be in contempt of parliament. ' r: parliament. and one of those peers was of course, lord, lord goldsmith, zac goldsmith, who announced today he's resigning from the government . might this from the government. might this report be something to do with that decision, or perhaps let's get the view of senior political correspondent at guardian. correspondent at the guardian. aubrey allegra motty, really 900d_ aubrey allegra motty, really eeet te— aubrey allegra motty, really good te eee— aubrey allegra motty, really good to see you— aubrey allegra motty, really good to see you this morning. aubrey,— good to see you this morning. aubrey—yew- good to see you this morning. . aubrey, _your time. aubrey, thank you for your time. wnet— aubrey, thank you for your time. wnet te— aubrey, thank you for your time. wnet te yew— aubrey, thank you for your time. what do you think— aubrey, thank you for your time. what do you think the reaction nee— what do you think the reaction nee teen— what do you think the reaction has been from _ what do you think the reaction has been from those seven mps ent— has been from those seven mps ent tne— has been from those seven mps ent tne tnree— has been from those seven mps and the three peers that were nenete— and the three peers that were nenete ne— and the three peers that were named? do you— and the three peers that were named? do you think it has enytntne— named? do you think it has enytntng te— named? do you think it has anything to do— named? do you think it has anything to do with zac

goldsmith's_ anything to do with zac goldsmith's resignation this nerntne— goldsmith's resignation this morning, being— goldsmith's resignation this morning, being named in that repen— morning, being named in that renene — morning, being named in that report ? frankly,— morning, being named in that report ? "" report? frankly, boris johnson's allies are sort of blisteringly angry at having been named in this report . they think that the this report. they think that the privileges committee has committed a huge overreach , that committed a huge overreach, that it is sort of proving all of their preconceived ideas about a bias against not just boris johnson , but those who've johnson, but those who've supported him for the last few years. correct and there is the very interesting question of zac goldsmith, because unlike like the other nine people who are named in the report, he is still a serving government minister. he was kept on by rishi sunak when he took over as prime minister in october year, minister in october last year, and partly seen as and that was partly seen as a sort sop to boris johnson . sort of sop to boris johnson. it was rishi sunak to was important for rishi sunak to have some of boris johnson's old allies the cabinet table allies around the cabinet table and in the ministerial ranks to keep them side. does keep them on side. but it does seem that zac goldsmith was one of those people who cast huge questions about the impunity of the committee and from the discussions i've had this morning with number ten was told in no uncertain terms, you have

to apologise for this. you're a serving government minister. what you say represents the government's position on. and so you're have to retract you're going to have to retract your he it seems, your statement. he it seems, hasn't done so. and number 10 person said had come up with another excuse to resign. obviously goldsmith would obviously zac goldsmith would would disagree. i think would disagree. and i think would disagree. and i think would say that for a long time he's very champion he's been a very ardent champion of environmental issues. it sounds like maybe this decision has been the back of his mind has been at the back of his mind for he has been for a while. so he has been casting criticism of sunak casting criticism of rishi sunak for not pursuing environmental policies, basically saying you're very indifferent to them . this is an interesting point tnet— . this is an interesting point tnet yee— this is an interesting point that you're raising here, that were— that you're raising here, that tnere wee— that you're raising here, that there was almost this ultra netwn— there was almost this ultra netwn given— there was almost this ultra matum given to zac goldsmith. aeeteetee— matum given to zac goldsmith. anetegtee ter— matum given to zac goldsmith. anetegtee ter r— matum given to zac goldsmith. apologies for i don't think he was ever particularly rude . he's was ever particularly rude. he's nette— was ever particularly rude. he's ewtte e— was ever particularly rude. he's ewtte e nette— was ever particularly rude. he's ewtte e nettte gey— was ever particularly rude. he's quite a polite guy, but he did eweetten— quite a polite guy, but he did eweetten en— quite a polite guy, but he did question on the— quite a polite guy, but he did question on the propriety of tnet— question on the propriety of that committee.— question on the propriety of that committee. so apology for tnet— that committee. so apology for tnet er— that committee. so apology for tnet er reeten. — that committee. so apology for that or resign. that's basically the ultimatum— that or resign. that's basically the ultimatum that rishi sunak eewe— the ultimatum that rishi sunak eewe ntn— the ultimatum that rishi sunak gave him yesterday despite rishi swnet— gave him yesterday despite rishi sunak spokesperson saying that

he sunak spokesperson saying that ne eent— sunak spokesperson saying that ne eent ne— sunak spokesperson saying that he wasn't he wasn't going to get tnwetwet. — he wasn't he wasn't going to get involved. yeah,— he wasn't he wasn't going to get involved. yeah, it's— he wasn't he wasn't going to get involved. “43?" c " involved. yeah, it's been difficult . number ten obviously difficult. number ten obviously stood by zac goldsmith yesterday when we were asking them repeatedly , do you full repeatedly, do you have full confidence in your environment minister? we were told categorically was yes categorically the answer was yes . but you have to look at what zac goldsmith and he shared zac goldsmith said and he shared a tweet which essentially called the inquiry a witch hunt and a kangaroo court. and he said exactly this. there was only ever going be one outcome. ever going to be one outcome. and evidence totally and the evidence was totally irrelevant . so he a irrelevant to it. so he was a complete odds with the government official line on the privileges committee. inquiry number 10 line has been number 10 official line has been we thank them for their work and we thank them for their work and we sort of agree or at least don't quibble with any of their findings. goldsmith going findings. zac goldsmith going off in the opposite off completely in the opposite direction. course, direction. he was, of course, given a peerage boris johnson given a peerage by boris johnson when he first became prime minister so somewhat minister so he is somewhat indebted to him and they're very close allies. so it's maybe not surprising that zac goldsmith thinks this, but it is surprising was allowed surprising that he was allowed to say it as a government minister without any kind of repercussion government

repercussion from the government until night. and until it seems last night. and aubrey, what do you c. c c " g and aubrey, what do you think will neenen— aubrey, what do you think will happen-here?— aubrey, what do you think will happen here? because this happen next here? because this eenntttee— happen next here? because this committee, they— happen next here? because this committee, they didn't recommend a committee, they didn't recommend e eenetten— committee, they didn't recommend e eenetten ter— committee, they didn't recommend a sanction for the— committee, they didn't recommend a sanction for the mps and the teen— a sanction for the mps and the teen tnet— a sanction for the mps and the peers that were _ a sanction for the mps and the peers that were named in this repen— peers that were named in this reeen tnet-e— peers that were named in this report that's going to go to a vete— report that's going to go to a wete en— report that's going to go to a vote on monday.— report that's going to go to a vote on monday. how likely do you— vote on monday. how likely do yew tntnt— vote on monday. how likely do yew tntnt rt— vote on monday. how likely do you think it is— vote on monday. how likely do you think it is that they will be suspended— you think it is that they will be suspended the house over be suspended from the house over this be suspended from the house over tnte e— be suspended from the house over tnte e vee- — be suspended from the house over tnte e vee- se— be suspended from the house over this ? yes. so the— be suspended from the house over this ? yes. so the sort— be suspended from the house over this ? yes. this? yes. so the sort of contents of the vote we haven't exactly seen yet. all we know is that on monday, the 10th of july, there's going to be a debate on a motion about about this report. and it will ask basically to do three things. first of all, to note and endorse the report, which obviously criticises lots of bofis obviously criticises lots of boris johnson's allies . second boris johnson's allies. second of all, to basically reaffirm that if you try to impugn the integrity of this committee or interfere in its processes while it's conducting a live investigation , then they want to investigation, then they want to make categorically crystal clear you are yourself committing a contempt of parliament. so it's a bit hard to sort of retrospectively apply that to the ten tories in this instance

. and the third thing the report's going to do is basically try and make a strong point to the house of lords, which the commons of course can't interfere in say, can't interfere in and say, if you're want you you're a peer then we want you to you can't interfere to know that you can't interfere in as so in our processes as well. so i think the whole issue number 10 hopes can finally have a line drawn in the sand about it a week on monday. the question is really how much boris johnson's allies want to carry on agitating in order to protect their own because they're their own name because they're obviously unhappy the obviously very unhappy at the extent this committee extent to which this committee has them and in their has criticised them and in their view, overreached . well, clearly view, overreached. well, clearly the view, overreached. well, clearly tne rnne— view, overreached. well, clearly the prime minister— , f: well, clearly the prime minister wants to draw a the prime minister wants to draw e tne— the prime minister wants to draw e ttne enter— the prime minister wants to draw a line under this.— the prime minister wants to draw a line under this. he's got just een-te— a line under this. he's got just over do so, although over a week to do so, although tne— over a week to do so, although tne ntetery— over a week to do so, although tne ntetery et— over a week to do so, although the history of this— over a week to do so, although the history of this long saga nee— the history of this long saga nee nernene— the history of this long saga has perhaps shown up some more twtete— has perhaps shown up some more twtete ent— has perhaps shown up some more twists and turns— has perhaps shown up some more twists and turns than the prime wtnteter— twists and turns than the prime minister would— twists and turns than the prime minister would have liked, let's tet-e— minister would have liked, let's tet-e eee— minister would have liked, let's let's see what— minister would have liked, let's let's see what happens a week on wentey.— let's see what happens a week on nentey. aubrey— let's see what happens a week on monday. aubrey allegretti, thank you monday. aubrey allegretti, thank yew—nerel you so much forjoining us here on you so much forjoining us here en nrttetn-e— you so much forjoining us here on britain's newsroom. mn on britain's newsroom. now, ntrntngnen— on britain's newsroom. now, birmingham city council has been plunged into chaos after a £650 million bill for equal pay claims emerged. the bill's eewwetent— claims emerged. the bill's equivalent to— claims emerged. the bill's equivalent to the-

grit g: the bill's equivalent to the council's entre— equivalent to the council's entire annual— equivalent to the council's entire annual spending on eewteee— entire annual spending on eerweee ent— entire annual spending on services and its- entire annual spending on services and its growing by up to services and its growing by up te tre— services and its growing by up to £14 million— services and its growing by up to £14 million every month. jack— to £14 million every month. reet cenen— to £14 million every month. jack carson joins— to £14 million every month. jack carson joins us- to £14 million every month. jack carson joins us live- to £14 million every month. jack carson joins us live now from birmingham. well this is chaos, isn't it, jack ? yes. so chaos, isn't it, jack? yes. so just to provide some some context as to where these equal pay context as to where these equal pay claims have come from , this pay claims have come from, this this funds back from from a 2012 settlement and a supreme court ruling where where it's found that hundreds of mostly female employees had missed out on historic bonuses such as teaching assistants, cleaners. there had been discriminated eeetnet— there had been discriminated egetnet. rt— there had been discriminated against. it found— there had been discriminated against. it found against more mete— against. it found against more male dominated— against. it found against more male dominated roles such as etreet— male dominated roles such as street cleaners— male dominated roles such as street cleaners and refuse eetteetere— street cleaners and refuse eetteetere .— street cleaners and refuse collectors . now, since that collectors. now, since that renne— collectors. now, since that rulingr tne— collectors. now, since that ruling, the council has paid out £1.1 ruling, the council has paid out err ttttten— ruling, the council has paid out £1.1 billion in— ruling, the council has paid out £1.1 billion in these claims. net— £1.1 billion in these claims. net eve— £1.1 billion in these claims. but over the— £1.1 billion in these claims. but over the past year , the but over the past year, the eewnett— but over the past year, the council has— but over the past year, the council has also- but over the past year, the council has also been implementing a new financial and teteteee— implementing a new financial and database system— implementing a new financial and database system that is over twteet— database system that is over twtget. net— database system that is over budget. but this— database system that is over budget. but this new analysis nee— budget. but this new analysis nee reent— budget. but this new analysis has found that— budget. but this new analysis has found that this is a 650

ntttten— has found that this is a 650 ntttten te— has found that this is a 650 million to 770— has found that this is a 650 million to 770 £760 million tweet— million to 770 £760 million tteet nete— million to 770 £760 million black hole that— million to 770 £760 million black hole that the council etttt— black hole that the council still hasn't— black hole that the council still hasn't paid in these equal pay still hasn't paid in these equal eey etetne— still hasn't paid in these equal eey etetne. wew— still hasn't paid in these equal pay claims. now the leader of the pay claims. now the leader of tne enneettten— pay claims. now the leader of the opposition on— pay claims. now the leader of the opposition on this council, cewnettter— the opposition on this council, councillor robert— the opposition on this council, councillor robert alden, and teeter— leader of the local conservatives, said that the newer— conservatives, said that the council—about. conservatives, said that the . council—about this council have known about this eee— council have known about this teewele— council have known about this issue-a while— council have known about this issue-a while and- council have known about this issue a while and we're issue for a while and we're reetty— issue for a while and we're really concerned about the tnneet— really concerned about the tnneet rt— really concerned about the impact it could— really concerned about the impact it could on those impact it could have on those meet— impact it could have on those most vulnerable— impact it could have on those most vulnerable people in the ety— most vulnerable people in the etty-tnet-e— most vulnerable people in the etty-tnet-e wny— most vulnerable people in the city that's why we're city and that's why we're eetttne— city and that's why we're calling now calling on the council to now eten— calling on the council to now eten eentne— calling on the council to now start coming about what start coming clean about what tney-re—tnel they're considering, what the tnneet— they're considering, what the tnneet-te- they're considering, what the tnneet-te te- they're considering, what the impact to be, and work impact is going to be, and work wttn— impact is going to be, and work with opposition— impact is going to be, and work with opposition groups the with opposition groups on the newer— with opposition groups on the eewnett—try- with opposition groups on the council—try and. with opposition groups on the council try and get council to actually try and get tnte— council to actually try and get this resolved,— council to actually try and get this resolved, because we've teen— this resolved, because we've teen-tnen- this resolved, because we've been them about the been warning them about the- issues—birmingham issues are. but the birmingham labour cabinet refused to listen and taxpayers are and now birmingham taxpayers are going paying the price for going to be paying the price for years their failure. going to be paying the price for years labour their failure. going to be paying the price for years labour cabinet ir failure. going to be paying the price for years labour cabinet members were even labour cabinet members were tweeting that they felt there was they didn't do was an issue but they didn't do anything to it anything about it. and to put it into context, like your into context, it's like your neighbour you and neighbour stopping you and telling broken telling you you've got a broken tile roof, instead tile on your roof, but instead of roof, you just of fixing the roof, you just hope doesn't rain. and that's hope it doesn't rain. and that's what the labour council has done here. problem what the labour council has done here. away problem what the labour council has done here. away and problem what the labour council has done here. away and now problem what the labour council has done here. away and now birmingham would go away and now birmingham taxpayers are being hit with a 760 million bill because of it. people at birmingham people looking at birmingham will exactly will be worried about exactly what government

what a labour government would do if they keep do in this country if they keep repeating kind of behaviour do in this country if they keep repeatseen kind of behaviour do in this country if they keep repeatseen here1d of behaviour do in this country if they keep repeatseen here in of behaviour do in this country if they keep repeatseen here in birmingham we've seen here in birmingham where running bills, where they're running up bills, unable pay them, leaving unable to pay them, leaving valuable services that are needed vulnerable people at needed by vulnerable people at risk . needed by vulnerable people at risk. well, needed by vulnerable people at risk . well, the council say that risk. well, the council say that the risk. well, the council say that tne ewen— risk. well, the council say that tne gtven tne— risk. well, the council say that the given the huge— ” well, the council say that the given the huge sums involved ,tne— the given the huge sums involved , tne eewnett— the given the huge sums involved , the council say— the given the huge sums involved , the council say it— the given the huge sums involved , the council say it can't ettert— , the council say it can't ettert te— , the council say it can't afford to pay— , the council say it can't afford to pay this from its evtettne— afford to pay this from its existing budget or resources and tney— existing budget or resources and tney nennetn— existing budget or resources and tney en— existing budget or resources and they remain an ongoing discussions— they remain an ongoing discussions with the government to discussions with the government te try— discussions with the government te tny ent— discussions with the government te tny ent ttnt— discussions with the government te tny ent ttnt e— discussions with the government to try and find a solution. well reen— to try and find a solution. well rent, tnent— to try and find a solution. well teen, tnent yew— to try and find a solution. well jack, thank you so— to try and find a solution. well jack, thank you so much for bringing— jack, thank you so much for tnngtng we— jack, thank you so much for bringing us that— jack, thank you so much for bringing us that story from a very— bringing us that story from a very wtnty— bringing us that story from a very windy birmingham today. nttnewgt— very windy birmingham today. ntttewgt r— very windy birmingham today. although i have— very windy birmingham today. although i have to— very windy birmingham today. although i have to say,- very windy birmingham today. although i have to say, i- very windy birmingham today. although i have to say, i think that was that birmingham although i have to say, i think that hallvas that birmingham although i have to say, i think that hallvas thathim,|ingham although i have to say, i think that hallvas thathim, whichn town hall behind him, which beautiful we need more beautiful building we need more beautiful. town halls beautiful. a lot of town halls in this in this country are not as pretty they should be and as pretty as they should be and birmingham right. tom birmingham gets it right. tom really likes pretty grit“ g c g tom really likes pretty buildings. teenn— really likes pretty buildings. teenn tnte— really likes pretty buildings. learn this about him. earlier on we—etewt- learn this about him. earlier on we_about quartz. learn this about him. earlier on. we_about quartz and we were talking about quartz and you we were talking about quartz and yew-eeytne— we were talking about quartz and yew-eeytne ett— we were talking about quartz and you saying all quartz you were saying all the quartz in you were saying all the quartz tn—twet- you were saying all the quartz tn—twet te- in the land should just be new— in the land should just be neetty-ent- in the land should just be really-and it- in the land should just be. really-and it should really beautiful and it should be really beautiful and it should tee—we- really beautiful and it should tee—we were- really beautiful and it should. be_we were looking be decreed that we were looking we-teettne — be decreed that we were looking we-lookinglthat- be decreed that we were looking we-lookinglthat at- be decreed that we were looking we looking that at that we were looking at that at that vttee— we were looking at that at that vttee et— we were looking at that at that video of kevin— we were looking at that at that video of kevin spacey walking tnte— video of kevin spacey walking. tnte—een into what looked like some sort of into what looked like some sort et-reetn— into what looked like some sort of-1960s concrete- of dingy 1960s concrete monstrosity _ of dingy 1960s concrete monstrosity . - of dingy 1960s concrete monstrosity . mil. of dingy 1960s concrete monstrosity . \r:::r c monstrosity. awful. no, it should be glued prius and

pillared and pedimented with metopes. and yeah, i'm i agree with you. you know, it's very neeetenete— with you. you know, it's very passionate plea.— with you. you know, it's very passionate plea. let- you know, it's very passionate plea. let us know wnet— passionate plea. let us know wnet yew— passionate plea. let us know what you think— passionate plea. let us know what you think of that or any of the what you think of that or any of tne etentee— what you think of that or any of the stories we're _ what you think of that or any of the stories we're talking about tetey— the stories we're talking about today. vaiews@gbnews.com. but do today. vaiews@gbnews.com. but rte-wttn— today. vaiews@gbnews.com. but do .with i because - today. vaiews@gbnews.com. but do with because this do stay with us because this is very— do stay with us because this is very-ee— do stay with us because this is very-ee ten- do stay with us because this is very news for someone very worrying news for someone nte— very worrying news for someone ttte—cetel very worrying news for someonei ttte—cete ent like me who loves diet coke and etnen— like me who loves diet coke and other beverages,— like me who loves diet coke and other beverages, should other beverages, i should say etnen— other beverages, i should say. other—available. other beverages are available. yesr_ other beverages are available. vee-tneee— other beverages are available. i yes,-these-calorie yes, yes. but these low calorie tntnte — yes, yes. but these low calorie tntnte-eewtt— yes, yes. but these low calorie drinks, .could be - drinks, they could be carcinogenic. we're going to be tetttne—

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news. channel well, it's just eentne— news. channel well, it's just eentng wn— news. channel well, it's just eentng we te— news. channel well, it's just coming up to 11:30.- well, it'sjust coming up to 11:30. and this is nrttetn-e— coming up to 11:30. and this is britain's newsroom on gb news. wttn— britain's newsroom on gb news. wttn ne— britain's newsroom on gb news. wttn ne ten— britain's newsroom on gb news. with me tom harwood and ellie ceetette. — with me tom harwood and ellie costello. and— with me tom harwood and ellie costello. and we're— with me tom harwood and ellie costello. ' r: g costello. and we're talking about all of the top stories in britain today. we're also talking about the smaller ones, but they're the ones that get you more often than not. you talking more often than not. we're that we're talking about a swan that made way the elizabeth made its way onto the elizabeth line suspended the line yesterday, suspended the entire over an hour. it entire line for over an hour. it meant some were meant that some people were on trains over trains without loos for over an hour we a bit of a hour. and we had a bit of a disagreement, didn't we, about how you deal with this? look, i just think it's pathetic- : i7 look, i just think it's pathetic that tne—newntnyl just think it's pathetic that. the—countrylthe the fifth richest country in the went— world, a country that's just eenetetet— world, a country that's just completed shining new completed this shining new tnttwte— completed this shining new tnttwte te— completed this shining new tribute to her— completed this shining new tribute to her majesty, the tribute to her late majesty, the tttzetetn — tribute to her late majesty, the elizabeth line,— tribute to her late majesty, the elizabeth line, the £15 billion tttzetetn— elizabeth line, the £15 billion elizabeth line. _ elizabeth line, the £15 billion elizabeth line. and it's all nett— elizabeth line. and it's all net up— elizabeth line. and it's all net up ty— elizabeth line. and it's all held up by one— elizabeth line. and it's all held up by one swan. venice held up by one swan. well, i was eeytne— held up by one swan. well, i was saying that protected species. so, you know, you can't mess with the lots of you've with the swan but lots of you've been touch. iam been getting in touch. i am really interested-dell been getting in touch. i am. really interested-del from really interested what del from new— really interested what del from nenny—wntten- really interested what del from barry—written in- really interested what del from barry written in to barry island has written in to eey— barry island has written in to eey-nt— barry island has written in to eey-nt ten,- barry island has written in to say.-hi tom, i've- barry island has written in to say. hi tom, i've worked say. he says hi tom, i've worked on say. he says hi tom, i've worked en tne— say. he says hi tom, i've worked en tne-ten— say. he says hi tom, i've worked on the-for over- say. he says hi tom, i've worked on the-for over 32- on the railways for over 32 yeene— on the railways for over 32 yeene-yee— on the railways for over 32 yeene-yee ,— on the railways for over 32 years-yes , dogs- on the railways for over 32 years yes , dogs and cats are years and yes, dogs and cats are ettty— years and yes, dogs and cats are ettty enewen— years and yes, dogs and cats are ettty enewgn te— years and yes, dogs and cats are silly enough to stray onto the nettwey— silly enough to stray onto the nettwey ttne— silly enough to stray onto the railway line and— silly enough to stray onto the railway line and get squashed

neewtenty— railway line and get squashed neewtenty. ant— railway line and get squashed regularly. and to— railway line and get squashed regularly. and to me, i'm more wnet— regularly. and to me, i'm more wneet etent— regularly. and to me, i'm more wneet etewt e— regularly. and to me, i'm more upset about a dog— regularly. and to me, i'm more upset about a dog getting eeweenet— upset about a dog getting squashed than a swan. i would put e— squashed than a swan. i would put e tee— squashed than a swan. i would put e dog ee— squashed than a swan. i would put a dog as higher up the neettne— put a dog as higher up the pecking order,— put a dog as higher up the pecking order, for of a pecking order, for want of a better— pecking order, for want of a tetten- rt— pecking order, for want of a better-if we're- pecking order, for want of a better if we're talking better term. if we're talking etent— better term. if we're talking enent—weal better term. if we're talking. about—well then better term. if we're talking- about_well then a about avian animals. well then a wett— about avian animals. well then a wett. yew— about avian animals. well then a swan. well, you don't- about avian animals. well then a swan. slit" e l swan. well, you don't like the idea of any animals being squashed. but steve's been in touch us an answer touch and given us an answer because the best because this is one of the best things about views things about gb views and gb news touch and news is people get in touch and actually give us the answers. it's a boomerang. we ask it's like a boomerang. we ask something, yes something, it comes back. yes exactly. steve says because exactly. steve says it's because swans wild swans. as swans are belong wild swans. as we established earlier, belong to they protected to the king. they are protected and drivers have and therefore the drivers have no to stop. it's in no choice but to stop. it's in the rules. so while a driver is ettewet— the rules. so while a driver is ettewet te— the rules. so while a driver is allowed to run— the rules. so while a driver is allowed to run over- the rules. so while a driver is allowed to run over a- so while a driver is allowed to run over a dog , allowed to run over a dog, tney-ne— allowed to run over a dog, tney-re net— allowed to run over a dog, they're not allowed to run over a they're not allowed to run over e r— they're not allowed to run over a swan. ithink— they're not allowed to run over a swan. i think that's the wrong way— a swan. i think that's the wrong wey reent— a swan. i think that's the wrong wey nwent r— a swan. i think that's the wrong way round. i think— a swan. i think that's the wrong way round. i think his majesty wewtt— way round. i think his majesty wewtt went— way round. i think his majesty would want them _ way round. i think his majesty would want them to run over the even— would want them to run over the even .— would want them to run over the even . wny— would want them to run over the even . wny nete— would want them to run over the swan . why not? because that's a swan. why not? because that's a ne— swan. why not? because that's a tntne— swan. why not? because that's a tntne te— swan. why not? because that's a nice thing to do,— swan. why not? because that's a nice thing to do, but because tne— nice thing to do, but because tne ttne— nice thing to do, but because tne ttne tn— nice thing to do, but because the line in question was the tnttwte— the line in question was the tnttwte te— the line in question was the tribute to his— the line in question was the tribute to his late mother . and tribute to his late mother. and it tribute to his late mother. and tt etente— tribute to his late mother. and tt enewtt net— tribute to his late mother. and it should not be.— tribute to his late mother. and it should not be. it should not be etentee— it should not be. it should not be eteeeet. rt— it should not be. it should not be stopped. it should be allowed to be stopped. it should be allowed te nen— be stopped. it should be allowed te . — be stopped. it should be allowed te . wett— be stopped. it should be allowed to run . well, he's— be stopped. it should be allowed to run . well, he's an- be stopped. it should be allowed to run . a" a" to run. well, he's an animal lovers and he i don't think he'd

like anyone being like the idea of anyone being squashed. get in touch on squashed. but do get in touch on that story or any of the stories that story or any of the stories that we're about this that we're talking about this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. we do from you. well, do love to hear from you. well, moving onlsomething- r:r:::r well, moving on something slightly moving on to something slightly nenenew- tne- moving on to something slightly more-now, the use- moving on to something slightly more now, the use of more serious now, the use of nennene— more serious now, the use of hormone replacement therapy to eee—t— hormone replacement therapy to eee—t tne— ease the effects of the menopause has been linked to a nteter— menopause has been linked to a ntenen ntet— menopause has been linked to a ntgnen net et— menopause has been linked to a higher risk of dementia. in a ettty— higher risk of dementia. in a etwty . — higher risk of dementia. in a new study . yes,- higher risk of dementia. in a new study . “cir at; new study. yes, the nationwide study from denmark tracked over 60,000 women and found those who took hrt had a 24% higher risk of a dementia diagnosis, which increased during the duration of the treatment . well, let's get the treatment. well, let's get to the treatment. well, let's get te tne— the treatment. well, let's get to the bottom _ the treatment. well, let's get to the bottom of— the treatment. well, let's get to the bottom of this- well, let's get to the bottom of this now with the to the bottom of this now with tne ten— to the bottom of this now with tne ten un— to the bottom of this now with the top uk hormone specialist, nneteeeen— the top uk hormone specialist, professor anis— the top uk hormone specialist, professor anis mukherjee . and professor anis mukherjee. and ne-e— professor anis mukherjee. and ne-e tnent— professor anis mukherjee. and ne-e tnent yew— professor anis mukherjee. and he's thank you for joining us tnte— he's thank you for joining us the nennne— he's thank you for joining us this morning because this is a very— this morning because this is a very eeneenntne— this morning because this is a very concerning story particularly- very concerning story particularly for a lot of women wne— particularly for a lot of women wne wtt— particularly for a lot of women wne wttt te— particularly for a lot of women who will be thinking, gosh, i'm on who will be thinking, gosh, i'm en wtt— who will be thinking, gosh, i'm en nrtt en— who will be thinking, gosh, i'm on hrt or want— who will be thinking, gosh, i'm on hrt or want to— who will be thinking, gosh, i'm on hrt or want to be should they not on hrt or want to be should they net te— on hrt or want to be should they net te tney— on hrt or want to be should they not be they should— on hrt or want to be should they not be they should be on it for tne— not be they should be on it for tne nent— not be they should be on it for the right reasons. _ not be they should be on it for the right reasons. ' r: not be they should be on it for the right reasons. r: g the right reasons. and the right reasons for women that we know from evidence from all the

international menopause societies is they should be using hrt to help their quality of life, to help menopause symptoms, to help them live their lives, accomplish all the roles they have in their life. and that's very important. and there's excellent evidence that hrt safe and effective for hrt is safe and effective for those indications . those are those indications. those are etenttne— those indications. those are startling figures— those indications. those are startling figures ,— those are startling figures , though, startling figures, though, eent— startling figures, though, aren't they?— startling figures, though, aren't they? 24% increase in net— aren't they? 24% increase in net et— aren't they? 24% increase in risk of dementia— aren't they? 24% increase in risk of dementia diagnosis , and risk of dementia diagnosis, and tnet— risk of dementia diagnosis, and tnet enty— risk of dementia diagnosis, and that only increases during the twnetten— that only increases during the twnetten et— that only increases during the duration of treatment. i mean, for duration of treatment. i mean, ten wne— duration of treatment. i mean, for women who are on hrt now, tney— for women who are on hrt now, tney wtt— for women who are on hrt now, tney wttt teet— for women who are on hrt now, they will feel like— for women who are on hrt now, they will feel like they can't get— they will feel like they can't get en — they will feel like they can't get en wttn— they will feel like they can't get on with their everyday life wttnewt— get on with their everyday life wttnewt tne — get on with their everyday life without the use— get on with their everyday life without the use of hrt. but tneee— without the use of hrt. but tneee ee— without the use of hrt. but those are really— without the use of hrt. but those are really startling ttewnee— those are really startling figures contend with . "er figures to contend with. they twt— figures to contend with. they twt rte— figures to contend with. they are, but it's important to be able to understand research if you're going to make headlines about it. and this study was a well conducted study, but it was an observational study. it was a big study, case control study, as you say over 60,000 women in the study with a good ratio of cases to control . but we've had cases to control. but we've had other studies that have shown

quite similar findings over the last few years . we've had other last few years. we've had other studies that have suggested that hrt may reduce the risk of dementia . the flaws in this dementia. the flaws in this study and the types of study that we're looking at are two main ones. it's an observational study , so we can see an study, so we can see an association pattern. but that doesn't mean hrt is the cause and that's where a lot of people get really confused. the second thing is that the hrt treatment in the women in this study dates back to the year 2000 when we used extremely different hormone replacement therapy regimes. so we'd use much more synthetic hormones which may have different effects on a woman's brain. so it's really difficult to extrapolate those findings to where we are today . what we where we are today. what we don't want to do is say, oh, it's a rubbish study, we should ignore it . and hrt is likely to ignore it. and hrt is likely to prevent dementia because other studies have suggested it reduces risk. i think we have to be reflective and all the be really reflective and all the international menopause societies hrt is societies suggest hrt is incredibly effective. it's the

most effective treatment. we have to ease menopause symptoms with study results. it may with these study results. it may be something other than the hrt itself that is producing these results. okay really sensible etvtee— results. okay really sensible advice. annie— really sensible advice. annie mukherjee, really 9°°d_ advice. annie mukherjee, really eeet te— advice. annie mukherjee, really good te eee— advice. annie mukherjee, really good te yew— advice. annie mukherjee, really good to see you this morning. tnent— good to see you this morning. tnent yew— good to see you this morning. tnent yew ee— good to see you this morning. thank you so much for your time. teeny.— thank you so much for your time. teetty, reetty— thank you so much for your time. really, really important— really, really important context. i think 1—1 study looking in part at older versions of this thing. let's not make any rash decision says, yeah, exactly. and we're going to yeah, exactly. and we're going te te— yeah, exactly. and we're going te te ettettne— yeah, exactly. and we're going to be sticking with— / cape“; and we're going to be sticking with the health tnene— to be sticking with the health tnene nnene— to be sticking with the health theme more worrying news eetwetty— theme more worrying news actually could— theme more worrying news actually could diet drinks give theme more worrying news actucancer?ld diet drinks give theme more worrying news actucancer? willet drinks give theme more worrying news actucancer? will beirinks give theme more worrying news actucancer? will be findingive theme more worrying news actucancer? will be finding out. you cancer? will be finding out. but you cancer? will be finding out. new tnet,— you cancer? will be finding out. new ttnet, yew— you cancer? will be finding out. but first, your news with tntennen— but first, your news with tntennen .— but first, your news with rhiannon . a&e. but first, your news with - rhiannon . a&e. thank you. good rhiannon. a&e. thank you. good morning. it's 1133. rhiannon. a&e. thank you. good morning. it's1133. your top stories from the newsroom . the stories from the newsroom. the government's launching what's being described as the most radical modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history. radical modernisation and reform of the nhs in its history . ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the nhs in its history. ahead of the 75th anniversary of the health service , the 15 year plan

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on this because ellie, you love diet coke. you've— on this because ellie, you love diet coke. you've got one. vee-ve— diet coke. you've got one. vee-ve eet— diet coke. you've got one. you've got one— diet coke. you've got one. you've got one there. am i safer wttn— you've got one there. am i safer wttn ny— you've got one there. am i safer with my original— you've got one there. am i safer with my original coke than than you with my original coke than than yew ee— with my original coke than than yew wttn— with my original coke than than you are with your— with my original coke than than you are with your with your diet cere— you are with your with your diet cete, etnen— you are with your with your diet coke, other other— you are with your with your diet coke, other other soft drinks are available.— coke, other other soft drinks are available. i— coke, other other soft drinks are available. i must stress. net-e— are available. i must stress. tet-e eet— are available. i must stress. let's get some— are available. i must stress. let's get some more with the nutritionist— let's get some more with the nutritionist ,— let's get some more with the nutritionist , lily— let's get some more with the nutritionist , lily souter, lily nutritionist, lily souter, lily ,t...t_ nutritionist, lily souter, lily ,tnent yew— nutritionist, lily souter, lily , thank you for— nutritionist, lily souter, lily , thank you for joining nutritionist, lily souter, lily , thank you forjoining us. , thank you for joining us. tute— , thank you for joining us. ellie drinks— , thank you for joining us. ellie drinks a— , thank you for joining us. ellie drinks a lot of diet coke . tn— ellie drinks a lot of diet coke . i'm worried— ellie drinks a lot of diet coke . tit: should ellie drinks a lot of diet coke . : should she be? . i'm worried. should she be? well, yeah , this this sort of well, yeah, this this sort of information is interesting. a spartan is found in a range of products such as diet, soft dnnks products such as diet, soft drinks and chewing gum. there have been some population studies associating this sweetener with an increased risk of some cancers , as there was of some cancers, as there was a particularly large observational study conducted . in over 100,000 study conducted. in over 100,000 people in france , which did show people in france, which did show an association with non—nutritive. sweeteners include adding a spartan in relation to increased cancer risk. but there were limitations to this study . it doesn't

to this study. it doesn't necessarily prove causation and at the same time, there's been studies which have found no clear association or the effect is very slight. clear association or the effect is very slight . so for a spartan is very slight. so for a spartan to be classed as a possible carcinogen by rac , there has to carcinogen by rac, there has to be sufficient evidence in animal studies, but not necessarily in human studies . and this human studies. and this information also hasn't really taken into account how much of this sweetener a person can safely consume . so it's safely consume. so it's previously been suggested that the accepted daily limit is anywhere for between 12 to 36 cans of diet. soft drink a day in order to be a health risk. but what i would be interested in is based on this new advice how much can we consume each day in order to be that sort of cancer risk? i think we probably should be moving away from both sweeteners and sugar collectively . lee if we can, and collectively. lee if we can, and moving on to water. but

obviously in a realistic world, this isn't always going to be possible . but we could use possible. but we could use sweeteners, i guess, as a stepping stone to reduce our sugar intake in the short term. and there's lots of other ways of flavour our water to make it more exciting . so, for example, more exciting. so, for example, we could infuse our water with fresh berries, mint ginger, cucumber . we could use cold cucumber. we could use cold infused teabags which give our water a lovely fruity flavour without the additional sugar or sweeteners. and without the additional sugar or sweeteners . and you know what? sweeteners. and you know what? i've sweeteners. and you know what? he teen— sweeteners. and you know what? i've been hearing— sweeteners. and you know what? i've been hearing this— and you know what? i've been hearing this since i et— i've been hearing this since i was at school— i've been hearing this since i was at school because i've etweye— was at school because i've always liked _ was at school because i've always liked diet coke. other nnenee— always liked diet coke. other tnente ee— always liked diet coke. other brands are available, but i have neene— brands are available, but i have neent rt— brands are available, but i have neent tt tnet— brands are available, but i have heard it that the— brands are available, but i have heard it that the full fat versions are— heard it that the full fat versions are actually healthier teeewee— versions are actually healthier teeewee yew— versions are actually healthier because you are— versions are actually healthier because you are dealing with eneen— because you are dealing with eneen ent— because you are dealing with sugar and sugar.— because you are dealing with sugar and sugar. we understand it's sugar and sugar. we understand rte-ent— sugar and sugar. we understand it's-and what's- sugar and sugar. we understand it's and what's found it's chemicals and what's found in it's chemicals and what's found tn eeetenen— it's chemicals and what's found in sweetener such— it's chemicals and what's found in sweetener such as? such as wnet— in sweetener such as? such as wnet were— in sweetener such as? such as what we're talking about today, tnet— what we're talking about today, tnet we— what we're talking about today, tnet we knew— what we're talking about today, that we know less— what we're talking about today, that we know less about. and tnet-e— that we know less about. and tnet-e wnet— that we know less about. and that's what makes it unhealthier. does that stand to be true— unhealthier. does that stand to be true te— unhealthier. does that stand to be true te yew— unhealthier. does that stand to be true to you ? _ unhealthier. does that stand to be true to you ? i— unhealthier. does that stand to be true to you ? "

be true to you? i think we should be looking at reducing our intake of both sugar and sweeteners as sugar can have just as sort of detrimental effects in terms of health and well being . currently as well being. currently as a population , we are over population, we are over consuming our intake of added sugars within the diet and soft dnnks sugars within the diet and soft drinks can be a cause of this. it can be a contributor to our sugar intake, particularly when it's in liquid format and we consume these sorts of drinks very, very quickly. but at the same time, as i said, the sweeteners can be a stepping stone to reducing our overall sugar intake for people who may be struggling with the flavour of just plain water. but i wouldn't necessarily say it's a long term solution and what we really should be doing is looking at the overall quality of our diet. what can we include, what all of those nourishing foods we can include within our diet, which have benefits to health, fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, which add sweetness into our diet , but

sweetness into our diet, but also come with vitamins, minerals , fibre, antioxidants , minerals, fibre, antioxidants, which all have benefits to wellbeing and consuming and nourishing diet may have benefits to health, which also then could translate into a reduced cancer risk as well . reduced cancer risk as well. well, lilly suella, thank- well, lilly suella, thank you so nwen — well, lilly suella, thank you so nwen ten— well, lilly suella, thank you so much for talking— well, lilly suella, thank you so much for talking us through tneee— much for talking us through those issues.— much for talking us through those issues. and think i'm those issues. and i think i'm ettgntty— those issues. and i think i'm slightly reassured that as long as slightly reassured that as long eeeve-n— slightly reassured that as long as-have-these. as i don't have 36 of these tntnee— as i don't have 36 of these tntnee tn— as i don't have 36 of these things in one— as i don't have 36 of these things in one sitting, i should tnet— things in one sitting, i should tnet etent— things in one sitting, i should just about make— things in one sitting, i should just about make it through at teeet— just about make it through at teeet te— just about make it through at teeet te tne— just about make it through at least to the end— just about make it through at least to the end of the week. ween— least to the end of the week. ween r— least to the end of the week. yeah, i suppose— least to the end of the week. yeah, i suppose that's true of evenytntne. — yeah, i suppose that's true of everything. don't— yeah, i suppose that's true of everything. don't have too much eenee— everything. don't have too much enene ten-t— everything. don't have too much sugar, don't have— everything. don't have too much sugar, don't have too much sweetener, don't- sugar, don't have too much sweetener, don't have too much. tnet—tn— sweetener, don't have too much. just—in moderation.. sweetener, don't have too much. just suella, in moderation. sweetener, don't have too much. just suella, thank�*noderation. sweetener, don't have too much. just suella, thank you aration. sweetener, don't have too much. just suella, thank you verytn. lilly suella, thank you very nnen— lilly suella, thank you very nwen ten— lilly suella, thank you very much for joining lilly suella, thank you very much forjoining us here on ennen— much forjoining us here on nntetn. en— much forjoining us here on britain. gb newsroom yeah, yeah . tvenytntne— britain. gb newsroom yeah, yeah . tvenytntne tn— britain. gb newsroom yeah, yeah . everything in moderation. rte— . everything in moderation. rt-e-neeeeee- . everything in moderation. rt-e-neeeeee .- . everything in moderation. | it's-message . farage it's a good message. farage right. run you through the right. let's run you through the newspapers morning, newspapers this morning, shall we? mirror front page we? and the mirror front page features from young girl features a plea from young girl named poppy who's written to the prime minister about the need for free school meals. yeah, there it is for those- i yeah, there it is for those watching on there it is for those watchingi on_handwritten on television. her handwritten nete. — on television. her handwritten nete. veny— on television. her handwritten note. very sweet,—

on television. her handwritten note. «c13 i and note. very sweet, actually. and the note. very sweet, actually. and tne netty— note. very sweet, actually. and tne netty wett— note. very sweet, actually. and the daily mail, however,- note. i and the daily mail, however, has led wttn— the daily mail, however, has led wttn twente— the daily mail, however, has led with rwanda and— the daily mail, however, has led with rwanda and that court nenne— with rwanda and that court nwttng eeytne— with rwanda and that court ruling saying we should decide wne— ruling saying we should decide who comes here,— ruling saying we should decide who comes here, not criminal eenee. — who comes here, not criminal eenee. tnet-e— who comes here, not criminal eenee. tnet-e en— who comes here, not criminal gangs. that's on their front page- _ gangs. that's on their front page- tne— gangs. that's on their front page- tne r— gangs. that's on their front page. the i leads with mortgage teete— page. the i leads with mortgage teete ,— page. the i leads with mortgage teete , hiking— page. the i leads with mortgage deals , hiking again as big six deals, hiking again as big six tente— deals, hiking again as big six tente nene— deals, hiking again as big six banks raise their— deals, hiking again as big six banks raise their prices . and banks raise their prices. and tne— banks raise their prices. and the financial— banks raise their prices. and the financial times says that recent— the financial times says that record withdrawals from banks as nntetn-e— record withdrawals from banks as britain's households tap into eevtnee— britain's households tap into savings. that's— britain's households tap into savings. that's their headline. wett— savings. that's their headline. wett. nteeee— savings. that's their headline. wett, pteeee .— savings. that's their headline. well, please . now— savings. that's their headline. well, please . now we're- savings. that's their headline. well, please. now we're joined by conservative peer lord daniel moylan and emma burnell to discuss the latest headlines. really good morning to you both. good to see you again. and let's start. lord moylan with the mirror, shall we? and this very sweet letter from seven year old poppy sweet letter from seven year old poppy to the pm. well i'm i the only person finding it slightly distasteful that children as young as seven are being exploited to make a political argument about public expenditure and about the rights and obligations of parents, which is really what the nub of

this story is about. and so there's the daily- and so there's the daily mirror going wttn— there's the daily mirror going wttn tnte. — there's the daily mirror going wttn tnte. rt— there's the daily mirror going with this. if you— there's the daily mirror going with this. if you open it up, yew-tr— with this. if you open it up, yew-tt eee— with this. if you open it up, you'll see there— with this. if you open it up, you'll see there are lots of etnen— you'll see there are lots of other children _ you'll see there are lots of other children of similar age. i tntnt— other children of similar age. i tntnt tnen — other children of similar age. i think from the _ other children of similar age. i think from the same class who've wnttten— think from the same class who've writtenlsimilar_ think from the same class who've writtenlsimilar sort— think from the same class who've written similar sort of letter written a similar sort of letter . tney-ve— written a similar sort of letter . tney-ve ett— written a similar sort of letter . they've all-put- written a similar sort of letter . they've all put up to it . they've all been put up to it to . they've all been put up to it teltnte— . they've all been put up to it teltnte et— . they've all been put up to it to.this, of-and- to do this, of course, and i tntnt— to do this, of course, and i tntnt tt-e— to do this, of course, and i think it's mildly- to do this, of course, and i think it's mildly distasteful. tne— think it's mildly distasteful. tne teet— think it's mildly distasteful. tne teet te— think it's mildly distasteful. the fact is parents do have ettteettene— the fact is parents do have obligations and— the fact is parents do have obligations and the state enewttn-t— obligations and the state shouldn't be— obligations and the state shouldn't be there to take on all shouldn't be there to take on ett eenentet— shouldn't be there to take on all parental responsibilities . all parental responsibilities. of all parental responsibilities. or newne— all parental responsibilities. of course, the _ all parental responsibilities. of course, the next thing that nennene— of course, the next thing that nennene te— of course, the next thing that nennene te yew— of course, the next thing that happens is you say that free eeneet— happens is you say that free school meals— happens is you say that free school meals for— happens is you say that free school meals for everybody in the school meals for everybody in tne eeneen— school meals for everybody in the schools and— school meals for everybody in the schools and then free school neen— the schools and then free school neete ten— the schools and then free school meals for everybody in the nettteye— meals for everybody in the holidays and— meals for everybody in the holidays and the schools have to etey— holidays and the schools have to etey-ant— holidays and the schools have to etey-ant ee— holidays and the schools have to etey-ant ee en— stay open. and so on. and tnene-e— stay open. and so on. and there's-limit- stay open. and so on. and there's-limitlit- stay open. and so on. and there's-limitlit .- stay open. and so on. and there's limit it . of there's no limit to it. of course, people- there's no limit to it. of course, people want something for course, people want something ten tree. — course, people want something ten tree. ant— course, people want something for free. and of— course, people want something for free. and of course, i understand— for free. and of course, i understand there's a cost of ttvtne— understand there's a cost of ttvtne-twt— understand there's a cost of living-but that- understand there's a cost of living but that can't be living crisis, but that can't be tne— living crisis, but that can't be tne enewen— living crisis, but that can't be the answer to— living crisis, but that can't be the answer to everything . the answer to everything. reente— the answer to everything. parents have— the answer to everything. parents have responsibilities to . nne— parents have responsibilities to . ant rte— parents have responsibilities to . and it's emma— parents have responsibilities to . and it's emma is- parents have responsibilities to . and it's emma is it- parents have responsibilities to . and it's emma is it right? i mean, we're looking here at this at this spread in the in the in the mirror with a whole group of children standing with the very, very far left mps rac sultana

and i don't i wonder i wonder is it right to involve children in political campaigns? take children on political marches , children on political marches, use children in political adverts ? or is that distasteful adverts? or is that distasteful ? imean, adverts? or is that distasteful ? i mean, some of my fondest entttneet— 7’ i mean, some of my fondest childhood memories are going on nennnee— childhood memories are going on nnenenee . se— childhood memories are going on nnenenee . se ne— childhood memories are going on nnenenee . se r— childhood memories are going on marches . so no, i absolutely marches. so no, i absolutely ten-t— marches. so no, i absolutely ten-t tntnt— marches. so no, i absolutely don't think it— marches. so no, i absolutely don't think it is.— marches. so no, i absolutely don't think it is. i- marches. so no, i absolutely don't think it is. i was in the teeet— don't think it is. i was in the teeet nneee— don't think it is. i was in the local press as— don't think it is. i was in the local press as a— don't think it is. i was in the local press as a very young entre— local press as a very young child campaigning because they tney— child campaigning because they tney eeenet— child campaigning because they tney opened e— child campaigning because they they opened a gun shop around they opened a gun shop around tne nennen— they opened a gun shop around the corner from _ they opened a gun shop around the corner from my school, which tnet— the corner from my school, which tnet eeene— the corner from my school, which just seems bonkers— the corner from my school, which just seems bonkers and still seems bonkers— just seems bonkers and still seems bonkers to me now at 48. so seems bonkers to me now at 48. se tn— seems bonkers to me now at 48. se tn net,— seems bonkers to me now at 48. se tn net, yew— seems bonkers to me now at 48. so i'm not, you know, my mind teen-t— so i'm not, you know, my mind hasn't changed. _ so i'm not, you know, my mind hasn't changed. children are nenen— hasn't changed. children are human beings.— hasn't changed. children are human beings. they are subject to human beings. they are subject te etete— human beings. they are subject te etete tewe— human beings. they are subject to state laws. they— human beings. they are subject to state laws. they probably etente— to state laws. they probably should have— to state laws. they probably should have a— to state laws. they probably should have a voice in it. i i'm net— should have a voice in it. i i'm net e— should have a voice in it. i i'm net e big— should have a voice in it. i i'm net e big ten— should have a voice in it. i i'm not a big fan of— should have a voice in it. i i'm not a big fan of under 10s or wneteven— not a big fan of under 10s or whatever voting— not a big fan of under 10s or whatever voting which i know reente— whatever voting which i know some people that lord moylan was teettne— some people that lord moylan was teettne et— some people that lord moylan was teettng et nene,— some people that lord moylan was looking at here, that this looks eeet. — looking at here, that this looks eeet. tney-re— looking at here, that this looks cool. they're holding- looking at here, that this looks cool. "cg ”iii: g l. cool. they're holding up these branded boards. this looks like it's been organised adult it's been organised by an adult , then it's not organised. i

mean it depends where it came tnen— mean it depends where it came tnen ent— mean it depends where it came tnen ent we— mean it depends where it came from and we don't— mean it depends where it came from and we don't know. but i mean certainly— from and we don't know. but i mean certainly when i was that age,— mean certainly when i was that agev nette— mean certainly when i was that agev ewtte etten— mean certainly when i was that age, quite often we would be eetee,— age, quite often we would be .sked, wnet— age, quite often we would be asked, what do— age, quite often we would be asked, what do you want to do? ant— asked, what do you want to do? ant tnen— asked, what do you want to do? ant tnen en— asked, what do you want to do? and then an adult— asked, what do you want to do? and then an adult would help to us and then an adult would help to te te— and then an adult would help to te te tnet. — and then an adult would help to te te tnet. se— and then an adult would help to us do that. so and— and then an adult would help to us do that. so and i, i would be neetty— us do that. so and i, i would be really surprised— us do that. so and i, i would be really surprised if— us do that. so and i, i would be really surprised if those kids tttn-t— really surprised if those kids tttn-t ee— really surprised if those kids didn't come up— really surprised if those kids didn't come up with that themselves— didn't come up with that themselves ,— didn't come up with that themselves , as it is an issue themselves, as it is an issue tnet— themselves, as it is an issue tnet nte— themselves, as it is an issue tnet ttte te. — themselves, as it is an issue that kids do. are— themselves, as it is an issue that kids do. are really, really et— that kids do. are really, really aware of amongst their peers. wnen— aware of amongst their peers. wnen r— aware of amongst their peers. wnen r wee— aware of amongst their peers. wnen r tn— aware of amongst their peers. when i was in school, there was a when i was in school, there was e neet— when i was in school, there was e neet eteee— when i was in school, there was a real class division— when i was in school, there was a real class division between tneee— a real class division between tneee wne— a real class division between tneee wne tet— a real class division between those who got free school meals ent— those who got free school meals ent tneee— those who got free school meals and those-didn't.- those who got free school meals and those didn't. and we do and those who didn't. and we do knew— and those who didn't. and we do tnew ee— and those who didn't. and we do know as adults— and those who didn't. and we do know as adults ,— and those who didn't. and we do know as adults , we— and those who didn't. and we do know as adults , we know that know as adults, we know that eettetty— know as adults, we know that eettetty e— know as adults, we know that actually a child— know as adults, we know that actually a child that's well fed tee— actually a child that's well fed learns better— actually a child that's well fed learns better and— actually a child that's well fed learns better and that's an rnveetnent— learns better and that's an investment in— learns better and that's an investment in their future and ant— investment in their future and ours. and lord— investment in their future and ours. ' i ours. and lord moylan, what do you say to that? well, i'm just very— you say to that? well, i'm just very nettevet— you say to that? well, i'm just very relieved that— s7 well, i'm just very relieved that emma is not a big very relieved that emma is not a ttt ten— very relieved that emma is not a ttt ten et— very relieved that emma is not a big fan of votes— very relieved that emma is not a big fan of votes for— very relieved that emma is not a big fan of votes for under 10s. vet— big fan of votes for under 10s. vet knew,— big fan of votes for under 10s. you know, she— big fan of votes for under 10s. you know, she just she just said i you know, she just she just said r nneen— you know, she just she just said r tnet— you know, she just she just said i mean, that is— you know, she just she just said i mean, that is great. that enewe— i mean, that is great. that shows some contact with the real went— shows some contact with the real wont, wttn— shows some contact with the real world, with the _ shows some contact with the real world, with the adult world, wttn — world, with the adult world, wttn tne — world, with the adult world, with the grown— world, with the adult world, with the grown up world, which meet— with the grown up world, which meet et— with the grown up world, which meet et te— with the grown up world, which most of us and— with the grown up world, which most of us and most of your viewers inhabit. _ most of us and most of your viewers inhabit. i- most of us and most of your viewers inhabit. i come back to tnte— viewers inhabit. i come back to the tneetten. — viewers inhabit. i come back to this question. parents have responsibilities, too, to feed

tnen— responsibilities, too, to feed their children. _ responsibilities, too, to feed their children. and it's not the etete-e— their children. and it's not the state's responsibility to take tnet— state's responsibility to take tnet — state's responsibility to take tnet et— state's responsibility to take that on. of course, you have to nnevtte— that on. of course, you have to nnevtte e— that on. of course, you have to enevtte e neet— that on. of course, you have to provide a meal during the day. if provide a meal during the day. rt entttnen— provide a meal during the day. if children are— provide a meal during the day. if children are in— provide a meal during the day. if children are in school during the if children are in school during tne tey— if children are in school during tne tey, yet— if children are in school during the day, you have— if children are in school during the day, you have to provide a meet— the day, you have to provide a meet ent— the day, you have to provide a meet ent we— the day, you have to provide a meal and we are— the day, you have to provide a meal and we are very generous etent— meal and we are very generous etett netetnt— meal and we are very generous about helping those on low incomes. but— about helping those on low incomes. but fundamentally to say incomes. but fundamentally to eey tnet— incomes. but fundamentally to eey tnet tne— incomes. but fundamentally to say that the state— incomes. but fundamentally to say that the state is going to tene— say that the state is going to tete eve— say that the state is going to take over responsibility for evenytety— take over responsibility for everybody dodi is yet another eten— everybody dodi is yet another eten tn— everybody dodi is yet another etee tn tne— everybody dodi is yet another step in the nationalisation of the step in the nationalisation of tne tetrtnttnt— step in the nationalisation of the upbringing of children, wnen— the upbringing of children, wnten nee— the upbringing of children, which has already gone too far. otey. — which has already gone too far. otey. wet.— which has already gone too far. otey. wet-te— which has already gone too far. okay. well,.us know- which has already gone too far. okay. well,.us know what. which has already gone too far. okay. well, let us know what you think of that at home. vaiews@gbnews.com. we do always like from you, like to hear from you, emma. let's a look at the eye, let's have a look at the eye, shall we? and biggest six shall we? and the biggest six high banks have all high street banks have all raised rates on their mortgage deals again . again, it doesn't deals again. again, it doesn't enew— deals again. again, it doesn't enew eny— deals again. again, it doesn't enew eny eten— deals again. again, it doesn't show any sign of— : gs " again, it doesn't show any sign of stopping : sgs " again, it doesn't show any sign of stopping at the nnennent— show any sign of stopping at the nnennent ent— show any sign of stopping at the moment and that's— show any sign of stopping at the moment and that's really wennytnt— moment and that's really wennytnt ten— moment and that's really worrying for so- moment and that's really worrying for so many people . worrying for so many people. wett— worrying for so many people. wen, yet— worrying for so many people. well, you know,— worrying for so many people. well, you know, we've been tetttnt— well, you know, we've been talking about— well, you know, we've been talking about the cost of living entere— talking about the cost of living enen ent— talking about the cost of living crisis and one— talking about the cost of living crisis and one of— talking about the cost of living crisis and one of the impacts on entttnen— crisis and one of the impacts on entttnen ent— crisis and one of the impacts on children and families across the eetntny— children and families across the eetntny ee— children and families across the country are really— children and families across the country are really worrying etent— country are really worrying non, yet— country are really worrying about, you know , how they're about, you know, how they're going— about, you know, how they're tetnt te— about, you know, how they're tetnt te teet— about, you know, how they're going to deal with an increased nentete— going to deal with an increased mortgage payment in times where

evenytntnt— mortgage payment in times where evenytntnt te— mortgage payment in times where everything is costing more , your everything is costing more, your energy— everything is costing more, your energy tttn— everything is costing more, your energy bills are— everything is costing more, your energy bills are going up, your teet— energy bills are going up, your teet tttn— energy bills are going up, your food bills are— energy bills are going up, your food bills are rocketing . and food bills are rocketing. and tnet— food bills are rocketing. and tnet yet— food bills are rocketing. and just yet another— food bills are rocketing. and just yet another pressure on tentttee— just yet another pressure on tentttee ,— just yet another pressure on families , on— just yet another pressure on families , on people who own families, on people who own nenee— families, on people who own nenee ent— families, on people who own homes and people in who took out nentetee— homes and people in who took out nentetee ten— homes and people in who took out mortgages ten years— homes and people in who took out mortgages ten years ago when tnteneet— mortgages ten years ago when interest rates— mortgages ten years ago when interest rates were very low . interest rates were very low. tney-ne— interest rates were very low. tney-re tne— interest rates were very low. they're the ones— interest rates were very low. they're the ones who are coming to they're the ones who are coming te tne— they're the ones who are coming te tne ent— they're the ones who are coming te tne ent et— they're the ones who are coming to the end of those— they're the ones who are coming to the end of those ten year teete— to the end of those ten year teete .— to the end of those ten year teete . ant— to the end of those ten year deals . and it's— to the end of those ten year deals . and it's just such a big deals. and it's just such a big eneen— deals. and it's just such a big eneen te— deals. and it's just such a big eneen te 90— deals. and it's just such a big shock to go from _ deals. and it's just such a big shock to go from a mortgage wnene— shock to go from a mortgage wnene tne— shock to go from a mortgage where the base— shock to go from a mortgage where the base rate was zero to a where the base rate was zero to e nentete— where the base rate was zero to a mortgage where— where the base rate was zero to a mortgage where the base rate is a mortgage where the base rate te new— a mortgage where the base rate te s.— a mortgage where the base rate is now 5. that's— a mortgage where the base rate is now 5. that's an— a mortgage where the base rate is now 5. that's an enormous etente— is now 5. that's an enormous enente ten— is now 5. that's an enormous change for people— is now 5. that's an enormous change for people whose wages neve— change for people whose wages neve enetetty— change for people whose wages have probably not— change for people whose wages have probably not gone up by tneee— have probably not gone up by tneee tneee— have probably not gone up by those those amounts over that tne— those those amounts over that ttne wee— those those amounts over that ttne tt— those those amounts over that time was it was— those those amounts over that time was it was it— those those amounts over that time was it was it therefore a petty— time was it was it therefore a eettey ennen— time was it was it therefore a policy error, perhaps to have tneee— policy error, perhaps to have these incredibly— policy error, perhaps to have these incredibly low rates give tneee— these incredibly low rates give tneee reente— these incredibly low rates give tneee neette e— these incredibly low rates give these people a sense of false eeetntty— these people a sense of false security, have— these people a sense of false security, have people over tevenetet— security, have people over leveraged themselves to the tune of leveraged themselves to the tune et ntntnete— leveraged themselves to the tune of hundreds of— leveraged themselves to the tune of hundreds of thousands of netntee — of hundreds of thousands of pounds? we've— of hundreds of thousands of pounds? e pounds? we've discussed it before on this channel a lot. how sort of there were 15% rates back in the early 90s, but a 15% rate on borrowing £90,000 is so

very different on a 15% rate or a 5% rate on borrowing £200,000. yeah i mean, i think i don't think the rates were necessarily wrong, but i think that the multiples were quite complex, that that's a combination of factors that wage growth has just not happened and house pnces just not happened and house prices have soared at the same time. so prices have soared at the same time . so the differential in the time. so the differential in the eet— time. so the differential in the eet tnet— time. so the differential in the amount that you _ e so the differential in the amount that you just have to eenew— amount that you just have to tennew te— amount that you just have to tennew te tet— amount that you just have to borrow to get even close to a tentty— borrow to get even close to a tentty nene— borrow to get even close to a family home has— borrow to get even close to a family home has just soared tnnettn— family home has just soared tnnettn tne— family home has just soared through the roof. particular in our through the roof. particular in etttee. — through the roof. particular in our cities. lord _ through the roof. particular in our cities. titt: " our cities. lord moylan, i want to bring you in now. the cheapest offering at these banks is 6.37. but yeah , this could is 6.37. but yeah, this could have been avoided if the bank of england, which has been in charge of inflation since 1997, if the bank of england hadn't spent so much time printing money, which is what it was doing, keeping interest rates far too low, and thinking that this would not have proudly boasting that this would not have an inflationary consequence when his wife could

when everyone and his wife could see that it was going to do so. this should have happened eentten— this should have happened eentten en— this should have happened earlier or the— this should have happened earlier or the should have earlier or the rates should have tene— earlier or the rates should have gene-eentten— earlier or the rates should have gene-eentten ,— earlier or the rates should have gone .earlier , then - earlier or the rates should have gone earlier , then inflation gone up earlier, then inflation wetttn-t— gone up earlier, then inflation wouldn't—quite- gone up earlier, then inflation wouldn't—quite as. wouldn't have risen quite as net— wouldn't have risen quite as nttnltt— wouldn't have risen quite as nttnltt nee— wouldn't have risen quite as high-it has and- wouldn't have risen quite as high it has and it wouldn't high as it has and it wouldn't neve— high as it has and it wouldn't have-necessary- high as it has and it wouldn't- have-necessary-perhaps have been necessary dodi perhaps to have been necessary dodi perhaps te-tnen— have been necessary dodi perhaps te-tnen tn— have been necessary dodi perhaps te-tnen en te— have been necessary dodi perhaps to-them up to-level- to put them up to the level that were-eeetne— to put them up to the level that we're-seeing and- to put them up to the level that we're seeing and predicting, we're now seeing and predicting, wnen— we're now seeing and predicting, wnten ee— we're now seeing and predicting, wnten ee nnne— we're now seeing and predicting, which as emma said, might at the nnennent— which as emma said, might at the moment we don't— which as emma said, might at the moment we don't see a limit to it. moment we don't see a limit to t. ant— moment we don't see a limit to t. ant tnene— moment we don't see a limit to it. and there will— moment we don't see a limit to it. and there will be a limit, twt— it. and there will be a limit, but we— it. and there will be a limit, but we ten-t— it. and there will be a limit, but we don't see— it. and there will be a limit, but we don't see what that limit is but we don't see what that limit te ent— but we don't see what that limit te ent tney— but we don't see what that limit is and they should— but we don't see what that limit is and they should have acted a treet— is and they should have acted a greet teet— is and they should have acted a great deal earlier.— is and they should have acted a great deal earlier. but the bank of great deal earlier. but the bank et tnttent— great deal earlier. but the bank of england has— great deal earlier. but the bank of england has been totally and tetttenetety— of england has been totally and deliberately asleep the wheel of england has been totally and de|thisately asleep the wheel of england has been totally and de|thisatelyears ep the wheel of england has been totally and de|thisatelyears .p the wheel of england has been totally and de|thisatelyears . rates|e wheel of england has been totally and de|thisatelyears . rates haveeel on this for years. rates have teen— on this for years. rates have teen ten— on this for years. rates have teen ten tee— on this for years. rates have been far too low— on this for years. rates have been far too low . flittill ct" been far too low. well, on that note, thank thank you both, lord moylan, emma burnell , thank you moylan, emma burnell, thank you so much for talking us through those big stories. glad those big stories. really glad we got two mortgages there as well. huge huge problem for people the country. people up and down the country. yeah, really good to have yeah, and really good to have. voices—political voices from across the political eteetntn — spectrum as well. and indeed really good to have your company as i've so loved reading as well. i've so loved reading your views thoughts your views and your thoughts throughout thank you throughout this show. thank you so much forjoining us. up next, it's desk. hello, so much forjoining us. up next, it's desk . hello, alex it's the live desk. hello, alex teenn— it's the live desk. hello, alex teettn nene— it's the live desk. hello, alex deakin here with— it's the live desk. hello, alex deakin here with your- e l : hello, alex deakin here with your latest

weetnen— deakin here with your latest weather update— deakin here with your latest weather update from the met entree— weather update from the met etttee ten— weather update from the met office for gb— weather update from the met office for gb news. pretty drab out office for gb news. pretty drab ent tnene— office for gb news. pretty drab out there this— office for gb news. pretty drab out there this friday. lots of etett — out there this friday. lots of cloud around— out there this friday. lots of cloud around most places, fairly tent— cloud around most places, fairly tent ee— cloud around most places, fairly tent ee wett— cloud around most places, fairly tent ee wett .— cloud around most places, fairly damp as well . and it's a bit damp as well. and it's a bit eeetn— damp as well. and it's a bit eeeten-tt— damp as well. and it's a bit cooler-it has- damp as well. and it's a bit cooler it has been, cooler than it has been, eenetnty— cooler than it has been, certainly compared to the rest of certainly compared to the rest et tne— certainly compared to the rest et tne nentt— certainly compared to the rest of the month. this set of weetnen— of the month. this set of weather fronts - of the month. this set of weather fronts have been eteettty— weather fronts have been steadily moving in through the nent— steadily moving in through the nttnt ent— steadily moving in through the night and they're bringing the tent— night and they're bringing the tent ent— night and they're bringing the cloud and the— night and they're bringing the cloud and the outbreaks of rain ent—etn— cloud and the outbreaks of rain and—air tucked- cloud and the outbreaks of rain and—air tucked in. and quite mild air tucked in nene.— and quite mild air tucked in nene. se— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite a— and quite mild air tucked in here. so quite a humid feel . but here. so quite a humid feel. but wttn— here. so quite a humid feel. but wttn tne— here. so quite a humid feel. but wttn tne nen— here. so quite a humid feel. but with the rain and— here. so quite a humid feel. but with the rain and drizzle , with the rain and drizzle, temperatures— with the rain and drizzle, temperatures suppressed down tetew— temperatures suppressed down tetew eveneet— temperatures suppressed down below average and certainly tewen— below average and certainly tewen tnen— below average and certainly lower than they— below average and certainly lower than they have been for nnen— lower than they have been for nnen et— lower than they have been for nnen et rune.— lower than they have been for much of june. parts of east anette— much of june. parts of east anglia ettt— much of june. parts of east anglia still reasonably bright. but anglia still reasonably bright. tut—wtt- anglia still reasonably bright. but—will cloud. anglia still reasonably bright. but probably will cloud anglia still reasonably bright. but probably not ill cloud anglia still reasonably bright. but probably not seeingd anglia still reasonably bright. but probably not seeing too over, probably not seeing too meet— over, probably not seeing tool nneent— much rain here until later on. tteewnene— much rain here until later on. elsewhere rain— much rain here until later on. elsewhere rain and drizzle would just elsewhere rain and drizzle would tnet-te— elsewhere rain and drizzle would tnet-te eene— elsewhere rain and drizzle would just-to come and- elsewhere rain and drizzle would just to come and go through just tend to come and go through the just tend to come and go through tne—tneee— the day, keeping those temperatures high the day, keeping those- temperatures-high teens. temperatures in the high teens. but temperatures in the high teens. tut-rte— temperatures in the high teens. tut-rte ettt- temperatures in the high teens. but-it's still quite. temperatures in the high teens. b humid it's still quite temperatures in the high teens. b humid feel it's still quite temperatures in the high teens. b humid feel in s still quite temperatures in the high teens. b humid feel in parts. quite temperatures in the high teens. b humid feel in parts ofjite temperatures in the high teens. b humid feel in parts of the a humid feel in parts of the weet— a humid feel in parts of the weet tn— a humid feel in parts of the west in particular here as we go tnte— west in particular here as we go tnte tne— west in particular here as we go into the weekend— west in particular here as we go into the weekend .— west in particular here as we go into the weekend . well, that into the weekend. well, that etent— into the weekend. well, that etett ent— into the weekend. well, that cloud and rain— into the weekend. well, that cloud and rain will continue to tnttt— cloud and rain will continue to tnttt eeeee— cloud and rain will continue to drift across most— cloud and rain will continue to drift across most areas through tnte— drift across most areas through the evenne— drift across most areas through this evening and— drift across most areas through this evening and start to pull ewey— this evening and start to pull ewey ee— this evening and start to pull ewey ee we 90— this evening and start to pull away as we go through the early neene — away as we go through the early hours. generally,— away as we go through the early hours. generally, though, it's going— hours. generally, though, it's going-overcast- hours. generally, though, it's going overcast night, going to be an overcast night, nen— going to be an overcast night, netn-tnzzte— going to be an overcast night, rain-drizzle on— going to be an overcast night,

rain drizzle on and off and rain and drizzle on and off and ttnntnt— rain and drizzle on and off and ttnntnt twte— rain and drizzle on and off and turning quite breezy around the weet.— turning quite breezy around the weet. a— turning quite breezy around the weet. a pretty— turning quite breezy around the west. a pretty night as west. a pretty warm night as wett— west. a pretty warm night as well, particularly the well, particularly so in the eeet— well, particularly so in the east._further well, particularly so in the- east._further west east. temperatures further west etentnt— east. temperatures further west etentnt te— east. temperatures further west etentnt te ttt— east. temperatures further west starting to dip away a little tewente— starting to dip away a little towards dawn. _ starting to dip away a little towards dawn. and a sign towards dawn. and that's a sign of towards dawn. and that's a sign etlttt— towards dawn. and that's a sign etlttt et— towards dawn. and that's a sign etlttt et e— towards dawn. and that's a sign oflbit of a change— towards dawn. and that's a sign of bit of a change as we head of a bit of a change as we head tnte— of a bit of a change as we head tnte tne— of a bit of a change as we head into the weekend— of a bit of a change as we head into the weekend should be a meet— much brighter, wetter day tomorrow. - it'll- much brighter, wetter day tomorrow. it'll start tomorrow. yes, it'll start pretty— tomorrow. yes, it'll start tnetty etetty— tomorrow. yes, it'll start pretty cloudy with further rain ent—te- pretty cloudy with further raini ent—te and drizzle. there will be more eewenn— and drizzle. there will be more eewenn te— and drizzle. there will be more showers to come— and drizzle. there will be more showers to come chiefly over eeetene— scotland, some for northern tnttent— scotland, some for northern nneent—ten- england, the odd one for wennenn— england, the odd one for northern much england, the odd one for northern-much the northern ireland. much of the settn— northern ireland. much of the tent et— northern ireland. much of the tent et tne— northern ireland. much of the south of the country, though, try,— south of the country, though, try—wttn- south of the country, though,i try—wttn etnny dry, brightening up with sunny etete.— dry, brightening up with sunny etete—te- dry, brightening up with sunny etete—te tet- spells. we're going to get pretty— spells. we're going to get pretty-tnene. - spells. we're going to get pretty there. gusty spells. we're going to get pretty likely there. gusty spells. we're going to get pretty likely across'e. gusty spells. we're going to get pretty likely across northern winds likely across northern seettent— winds likely across northern seettentlrt— winds likely across northern scotland i it - be - winds likely across northern scotlandiit-be a- winds likely across northern scotland it be a very wet scotland. it could be a very wet day— scotland. it could be a very wet teylsnettent.— scotland. it could be a very wet day shetland. temperatures day in shetland. temperatures a bit day in shetland. temperatures a ttt-,— day in shetland. temperatures a bit-, particularly- day in shetland. temperatures a bit , particularly with bit higher, particularly with some sunny spells over eastern tene— some sunny spells over eastern nene et— some sunny spells over eastern tene et tnttent— some sunny spells over eastern parts of england getting back tnte— parts of england getting back tnte-zen— parts of england getting back into 20s through into the low 20s through settntey— into the low 20s through saturday evening. it stays very ttteteny— saturday evening. it stays very ttteteny eve— saturday evening. it stays very blustery over much of scotland, veny— blustery over much of scotland, veny enety— blustery over much of scotland, veny ttety wtnte— blustery over much of scotland, very gusty winds in the far nenn— very gusty winds in the far north, further— very gusty winds in the far north, further heavy showers eentnt— north, further heavy showers eentnt tn— north, further heavy showers eentnt tn-ee- north, further heavy showers coming in as well. coming in here as well. elsewhere— coming in here as well. elsewhere again, mostly dry and a elsewhere again, mostly dry and etreenen— elsewhere again, mostly dry and a fresher night— elsewhere again, mostly dry and a fresher night to— elsewhere again, mostly dry and a fresher night to come. a fresh nett— a fresher night to come. a fresh field, tnttnt— a fresher night to come. a fresh field, bright and— a fresher night to come. a fresh field, bright and breezy day for sentey— field, bright and breezy day for etntey wttn— field, bright and breezy day for sunday with some showers across the sunday with some showers across tne nent. — sunday with some showers across tne nent. ant— sunday with some showers across the north. and again, very windy across-. goodbye- the north. and again, very windy across . goodbye then. across scotland. goodbye then. tee— across scotland. goodbye then. tee antereen— across scotland. goodbye then. lee anderson here. _ across scotland. goodbye then. lee anderson here. join- across scotland. goodbye then. lee anderson here. join me- across scotland. goodbye then. lee anderson here. join me on gb

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