prestigious tric awards. i'm laurence fox. but tonight i'm identifying as martin daubney . well, is pride daubney. well, it is pride coming up on the show tonight on rwanda , the government says yay, rwanda, the government says yay, but lefty lawyers say nay. but the lefty lawyers say nay. i'll be asking who's really in charge of our country? then he was the prince of plants and now he's the king of climate change. but should he do this late? mother elizabeth did. and keep his politics out. plus, i know sad news. it's the end of the holy rainbow flag month of pride. so i'm asking you to vote for your favourite or not. pride plonker head to gb news on twitter to cast your vote and we'll announce some of the funniest ones before the end of the show. and don't forget, as even the show. and don't forget, as ever, you or my third panellists

have, please send in your views on anything we're talking about tonight . vaiews@gbnews.com. tonight. vaiews@gbnews.com. that's all coming up after the latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . latest news headlines with aaron armstrong. good latest news headlines with aaron armstrong . good evening to you. armstrong. good evening to you. it's armstrong. good evening to you. n-s a— armstrong. good evening to you. n-s a minute— armstrong. good evening to you. it's a minute past— '3 good evening to you. it's a minute past eight. i'm aaron— it's a minute past eight. i'm aaron armstrong— it's a minute past eight. i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the government's— aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the government's aiming to employ— the government's aiming to employ 300,000 new staff in england— employ 300,000 new staff in england as— employ 300,000 new staff in england as nan— employ 300,000 new staff in england as part of its nhs workforce— england as part of its nhs workforce plan.— england as part of its nhs workforce plan. more doctors, nurses and other— workforce plan. more doctors, nurses and other health care wonenn— nurses and other health care workers will— nurses and other health care workers will be _ nurses and other health care workers will be trained in addition— workers will be trained in addition to— workers will be trained in addition to creating more university— addition to creating more university places for medical and— university places for medical and nursing— university places for medical and nursing students. and there nin— and nursing students. and there will ano— and nursing students. and there nlll also no— and nursing students. and there will also be greater emphasis on apnonllooo— will also be greater emphasis on apprentices ships.— will also be greater emphasis on apprentices ships. the 15 year plan— apprentices ships. the 15 year plan an— apprentices ships. the 15 year plan lo— apprentices ships. the 15 year plan aims to reduce reliance on lnlonnallonal— plan aims to reduce reliance on international recruitment and agency— international recruitment and agency olafl — international recruitment and agency staff. the prime minister says— agency staff. the prime minister says ll— agency staff. the prime minister says ll nlll— agency staff. the prime minister says it will focus— agency staff. the prime minister says it will focus on three key of— says it will focus on three key areas of reform _ says it will focus on three key areas of reform in— says it will focus on three key areas of reform in this is the ans— areas of reform in this is the ans own— areas of reform in this is the was plan— areas of reform in this is the nhs own plan and the government is nhs own plan and the government ls nonl— nhs own plan and the government ls nnoal lo— nhs own plan and the government ls proud to bask— nhs own plan and the government is proud to back it.— nhs own plan and the government is proud to back it. _ nhs own plan and the government is proud to back it. c. z is proud to back it. fund the expansion of education and training for the first five years in full, with over £24

billion of additional investment that you can trust. this government with. the nhs , the government with. the nhs, the plan rests on three principles train , retain and reform . lord train, retain and reform. lord goldsmith says he's- " ”lice " a“: lord goldsmith says he's happy to aoologlso— goldsmith says he's happy to aoologlso fon— goldsmith says he's happy to apologise for sharing his views on one— apologise for sharing his views on the commons.— apologise for sharing his views on the commons. investigate into nons— on the commons. investigate into boris johnson's— on the commons. investigate into boris johnson's partygate probe. the boris johnson's partygate probe. lno lon— boris johnson's partygate probe. lno tory peon— boris johnson's partygate probe. lno tory poor sol— boris johnson's partygate probe. the tory peer set back after lolsnl— the tory peer set back after rishi sunak_ the tory peer set back after rishi sunak said— the tory peer set back after rishi sunak said he'd refused to aoologlso— rishi sunak said he'd refused to aoologlso ,— rishi sunak said he'd refused to aoologlso , saylng— rishi sunak said he'd refused to apologise , saying his comments apologise, saying his comments about— apologise, saying his comments about no— apologise, saying his comments about the privileges committee were incompatible with his noslllon— were incompatible with his noslllon as— were incompatible with his position as a— were incompatible with his position as a minister. well, loll— position as a minister. well, lord goldsmith— position as a minister. well, lord goldsmith has now admitted he lord goldsmith has now admitted no snoalan-l— lord goldsmith has now admitted he shouldn't have— lord goldsmith has now admitted he shouldn't have expressed his lows— he shouldn't have expressed his panlloly— he shouldn't have expressed his panlloly .— he shouldn't have expressed his views publicly . british tourists views publicly. british tourists are views publicly. british tourists lang— views publicly. british tourists are being warned about lnavolllna— are being warned about travelling to— are being warned about travelling to france with allows— travelling to france with curfews and _ travelling to france with curfews and transport restrictions, - curfews and transport restrictions, a result of the nllosnoal— restrictions, a result of the widespread civil unrest. all largo— widespread civil unrest. all large seale— widespread civil unrest. all large scale events are being cancelled— large scale events are being cancelled and— large scale events are being cancelled and armoured vehicles nave— cancelled and armoured vehicles nave been— cancelled and armoured vehicles have been deployed to deal with the have been deployed to deal with lne vlolenl— have been deployed to deal with the violent demonstrations , the violent demonstrations, anon— the violent demonstrations, nnlen are— the violent demonstrations, which are expected to continue for which are expected to continue lor a— which are expected to continue lor a loan— which are expected to continue for a fourth night.— which are expected to continue for a fourth night. protesters are demanding— for a fourth night. protesters are demanding justice for a 17 year— are demanding justice for a 17 year old— are demanding justice for a 17 year old known—

are demanding justice for a 17 year old known as nahal m, who snor— year old known as nahal m, who snol deal— year old known as nahal m, who was shot dead by— year old known as nahal m, who was shot dead by police in a salarl— was shot dead by police in a salarl ol— was shot dead by police in a suburb of paris— was shot dead by police in a suburb of paris on tuesday. rresllenl— suburb of paris on tuesday. president macron is considering lnnoslng— president macron is considering lnnoslng a— president macron is considering imposing a state— president macron is considering imposing a state of emergency to oracl— imposing a state of emergency to crack loan— imposing a state of emergency to crack loan on— imposing a state of emergency to crack down on rioting and loollng— crack down on rioting and loollng .— crack down on rioting and loollng . nas— crack down on rioting and looting . bus and tram services looting. bus and tram services nave— looting. bus and tram services nave non— looting. bus and tram services nave leen— looting. bus and tram services have now been suspended nallonnlae— have now been suspended nationwide and a court has been loll— nationwide and a court has been loll lne— nationwide and a court has been told the oscar— nationwide and a court has been told the oscar winning actor lean— told the oscar winning actor lean spacey,— told the oscar winning actor kevin spacey, is— told the oscar winning actor kevin spacey, is a sexual bully ano— kevin spacey, is a sexual bully nno aellgnls— kevin spacey, is a sexual bully who delights in— kevin spacey, is a sexual bully who delights in making others leel— who delights in making others feel uncomfortable . all on day feel uncomfortable. all on day ol— feel uncomfortable. all on day ol nls— feel uncomfortable. all on day one of his trial— feel uncomfortable. all on day one of his trial at— feel uncomfortable. all on day one of his trial at southwark, crown— one of his trial at southwark, loan loan,— one of his trial at southwark, crown court, prosecutor writers aesenlea— crown court, prosecutor writers described the _ crown court, prosecutor writers described the hollywood star as a ano— described the hollywood star as a man who sexually assaults olner— a man who sexually assaults olner nen— a man who sexually assaults other men. he— a man who sexually assaults other men. he faces 12 charges of other men. he faces 12 charges ol se— other men. he faces 12 charges of sex offences— other men. he faces 12 charges of sex offences against four anon— of sex offences against four men, which allegedly took place lelneen— men, which allegedly took place lelneen zoor— men, which allegedly took place between 2001 and— men, which allegedly took place between 2001 and 2013. he denies the between 2001 and 2013. he denies lne enarges— between 2001 and 2013. he denies the charges against— between 2001 and 2013. he denies the charges against him . energy the charges against him. energy lllls— the charges against him. energy lllls are— the charges against him. energy bills are likely— the charges against him. energy bills are likely to— the charges against him. energy bills are likely to remain high for bills are likely to remain high lor lne— bills are likely to remain high for the immediate future, lesnlle— for the immediate future, aesnlle a— for the immediate future, despite a saving of £406 a year lron— despite a saving of £406 a year from tomorrow— despite a saving of £406 a year from tomorrow ,_ despite a saving of £406 a year from tomorrow , a— despite a saving of £406 a year from tomorrow , a new price cap from tomorrow, a new price cap lnlo— from tomorrow, a new price cap comes into effect— from tomorrow, a new price cap comes into effect this weekend, but comes into effect this weekend, lal lllls— comes into effect this weekend, but bills will— comes into effect this weekend, but bills will still— comes into effect this weekend, but bills will still be almost doable— but bills will still be almost loalle lne— but bills will still be almost double the amount they were lelore— double the amount they were lelore. rne— double the amount they were before. the energy crisis began loo— before. the energy crisis began

lno years— before. the energy crisis began lno years ago— before. the energy crisis began lno years ago lo— before. the energy crisis began two years ago to the tune of aloal— two years ago to the tune of aloal lsoo. — two years ago to the tune of about £800. ofgem says it has lalen— about £800. ofgem says it has lalen a— about £800. ofgem says it has lalen a range— about £800. ofgem says it has taken a range of— about £800. ofgem says it has taken a range of steps to slallllse— taken a range of steps to stabilise the— taken a range of steps to stabilise the market and to nroleel— stabilise the market and to protect consumers . millions more protect consumers. millions more nnllsn— protect consumers. millions more nnllsn people— protect consumers. millions more british people will— protect consumers. millions more british people will be able to lye— british people will be able to llve ana— british people will be able to live and work— british people will be able to live and work in— british people will be able to live and work in australia when the live and work in australia when lne age— live and work in australia when lne age llnll— live and work in australia when the age limit for— live and work in australia when the age limit for working nollaay— the age limit for working holiday visas— the age limit for working holiday visas is raised tomorrow. the extension from 30 tomorrow. the extension from 30 lo ss— tomorrow. the extension from 30 lo so means— tomorrow. the extension from 30 lo so ro— tomorrow. the extension from 30 to 35 means 16 million adults are now eligible.— to 35 means 16 million adults are now eligible. the visa aarallon— are now eligible. the visa duration will— are now eligible. the visa duration will also be extended non— duration will also be extended lron 2— duration will also be extended lron 2 lo— duration will also be extended lron 2 lo s— duration will also be extended from 2 to 3 years— duration will also be extended from 2 to 3 years without the need — from 2 to 3 years without the need lor— from 2 to 3 years without the need for consecutive stays or larn — need for consecutive stays or larn worl— need for consecutive stays or larn worn on — need for consecutive stays or farm work on tv— need for consecutive stays or farm work on tv ,_ need for consecutive stays or farm work on tv , online dab and farm work on tv, online dab and laneln— farm work on tv, online dab and raneln reallo— farm work on tv, online dab and raneln reallo .— farm work on tv, online dab and tunein radio . this— farm work on tv, online dab and tunein radio . this is gb news, tunein radio. this is gb news, bal— tunein radio. this is gb news, lal ll-s— tunein radio. this is gb news, lal as non— tunein radio. this is gb news, but it's now it's— tunein radio. this is gb news, but it's now it's back to . martin ln- martin in my martin- in my home mann- in my home city maln— in my home city of nottingham this in my home city of nottingham lnls ween— in my home city of nottingham lnls ween l— in my home city of nottingham this week, i took— in my home city of nottingham this week, i took a— in my home city of nottingham this week, i took a moment to pay— this week, i took a moment to pay my— this week, i took a moment to pay my respede— this week, i took a moment to pay my respects to those who were stabbed _ pay my respects to those who were stabbed to— pay my respects to those who were stabbed to death on june

the were stabbed to death on june lne gm,— were stabbed to death on june the 13th, visiting— were stabbed to death on june the 13th, visiting the touching lloral— the 13th, visiting the touching lloral alsglay— the 13th, visiting the touching floral display in— the 13th, visiting the touching floral display in the market sgaae— floral display in the market sgaae . — floral display in the market square . dumas- floral display in the market square . lg c. floral display in the market- square . dumas looking up, i was square. dumas looking up, i was struck by a giant banner that read nottingham celebrates windrush 75. last year , the windrush 75. last year, the council had similarly marked black history month, and for many months flew not a union flag , but of course the flag, but of course the ubiquitous flag of ukraine. kyiv at nottingham crown court, a trans progress flag is flying for pride month . it's for pride month. it's fashionable almost compulsory these days to celebrate or even take the knee to minority groups, isn't it? but when it comes to celebrating white people, well, that would be racist , right? as they racist, right? as they constantly tell us, it's impossible to be racist against white people. but that lie was shattered yesterday in a landmark ruling that found that the raf had unlawfully discriminated against white male recruits in a bid to boost diversity by refusing to employ them . well, thank god such anti them. well, thank god such anti white male racism didn't exist

dunng white male racism didn't exist during the battle of britain in our darkest hour. as raf top brass quibbled over diversity quotas among spitfire pilots , quotas among spitfire pilots, britain would have been flattened by the luftwaffe , and flattened by the luftwaffe, and today we'd be ruled by fascists and all be speaking german . you and all be speaking german. you sometimes wonder if the wokes wish we'd lost the war. earlier this week, it emerged saint paups this week, it emerged saint paul's cathedral. yet the one that hitler tried to bomb had branded winston churchill a white supremacist and an unashamed imperialist. on its website it we're just waiting till they find out about the guy winnie beat up. britain is an 82% white majority nation and yet is governed by a political and media class that often seems to despise white people and especially the white working classes, and particularly men. they're hated for their brexit votes and held responsible for britain's slave trade and empire , for which they had little or no part in other than fighting or dying in its armies or navies as white men for this country,

they toiled , they dug, they they toiled, they dug, they built our canals , our railways, built our canals, our railways, our roads , and every dry stone our roads, and every dry stone wall. and they rebuilt the country after two world wars . of country after two world wars. of course, it wasn't just white folks , but they did most of the folks, but they did most of the heavy lifting . and yet they get heavy lifting. and yet they get little of the credit . but their little of the credit. but their contribution has been airbrushed from history . a question for you from history. a question for you . when 8.4 million women won the right to vote in 1918, how many men also got the right to vote ? men also got the right to vote? well, you might answer. well, none. this was a victory for the suffragettes. this was a victory for women. but you'd be wrong. because 5.6 million men also got the vote. mainly working class men who didn't even own land , men who didn't even own land, including almost every soldier who'd fought in the great war. these men fought or died so that their descendants could be called racist or even fascists by today's privileged classes,

politicians , academics, the politicians, academics, the media and luvvies like gary lineker . but media and luvvies like gary lineker. but let's look at media and luvvies like gary lineker . but let's look at the lineker. but let's look at the facts . and you could easily facts. and you could easily conclude that white lives don't matter to today's politicians. white working class boys have been the bottom of education for 20 plus years because they're the least likely demographic of all in britain to attend university. yet there is not a single initiative anywhere in the uk to even help them and trust me, i know this. i've got involved in politics and stabbed them in the eye to get this done . yet to even suggest that these people need special help, well , people need special help, well, that would be racist. there are also the most likely to go to jail, to be homeless and to commit suicide when precisely does their white male privilege kick in? now, this isn't a competition for victimhood. it's a cry for recognition and for equality . motty because every equality. motty because every single person living in britain today owes the white working classes a huge debt of gratitude

. and they died for this country . they built this country so we can have white history. sorry black history month and pride . black history month and pride. how about just every now and then ? we showed some respect to then? we showed some respect to those of a caucasian persuasion . and to. okay, thanks for that. so tonight, i'm joined i'm asking you . sorry. has pride asking you. sorry. has pride lost its meaning? we're running a poll gets involved . email me a poll gets involved. email me at gb views at gbnews.com okay. this week, the calls for appeal dramatically ruled that the government's rwanda plan was illegal, despite the high court previously ruling that it was legal . with the battle set to legal. with the battle set to rumble to on the supreme court and still without a single illegal immigrants being deported to rwanda at a whopping cost of £169,000 each, i'm asking who's really running the country , the politicians or the country, the politicians or the lawyers ? or what about us? the lawyers? or what about us? the voters ? well, if you want me to voters? well, if you want me to digest this and other stories, today is former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire and political

commentator suzanne evans. suzanne, let's start with you . suzanne, let's start with you. it's groundhog day again, isn't it? echoes of brexit. the lord says the high court, the judges doing their very best to derail democracy. here we go again . the democracy. here we go again. the will of the people. 2016 take back control of our borders . back control of our borders. they're not being allowed to do it. will a they're not being allowed to do it. willa single person they're not being allowed to do it. will a single person ever be deported, or are we just open borders? britain? well, no, i let's borders? britain? well, no, i lel-s well— borders? britain? well, no, i let's well, i'm— borders? britain? well, no, i let's well, i'm not- borders? britain? well, no, i let's well, i'm not in- 37 7 well, no, i let's well, i'm not in the eryslal— let's well, i'm not in the crystal ball— let's well, i'm not in the crystal ball tonight, but i lnlnl— crystal ball tonight, but i think possibly— crystal ball tonight, but i think possibly this isn't the end. — think possibly this isn't the end. obviously,- think possibly this isn't the end. obviously, only the government's going to appeal to the supreme court. i think it's interesting that the judge's decision today was not unanimous . it was 2 to 1. so there was certainly one appeal court judge who thought that the government had make . and had a case to make. and obviously going to obviously that's going to be important , too, i think, in the important, too, i think, in the supreme trial. but i think supreme court trial. but i think rishi sunak summed it up perfectly for me today. he was doing the conference about doing the press conference about the was obviously the nhs, but he was obviously asked this and he's asked about this and he's

absolutely said, absolutely right. he said, well, here the criminal here we are. it's the criminal gangs basically who are running britain's immigration system. it's not the government and it's not even the lawyers in that sense. it's the criminal gangs who have been using european human rights laws and universal human rights laws and universal human rights laws to try and stop stop this happening . the stop stop this happening. the government's really got a problem here, though, because i think it's staked a lot on stopping those boats . it's one stopping those boats. it's one of rishi sunak five pledges which he's hoping to meet them all before the next general election around. and this election comes around. and this is, i think, possibly going to be the most difficult one for him. what i think the tory him. so what i think the tory party to do now, i'm party needs to do now, and i'm sure they'd this, is sure they'd recognise this, is we've illegal migration we've got the illegal migration bill through parliament, bill going through parliament, but needs to law . but that needs to become law. unless law. i think unless that becomes law. i think the tories are not going to stand a cat in hell's chance of winning the next election. now if labour course, and if labour get in of course, and that bill passes and becomes an act and gets royal assent and flights starting off flights do starting taking off to then labour will to rwanda, then labour will probably come in and overturn it. i think that illegal

it. but i think that illegal migration bill has got to be law and to be honest, once that happens, the judges then can't overrule will parliament. overrule the will of parliament. this slight issue here. this is the slight issue here. it's i don't really see it it's not i don't really see it as the lawyers and ed against the government against the the government or against the people. this issue people. i think this is an issue of that law hasn't been of law. that law hasn't been passed by parliament and passed yet by parliament and until happens, the judges until that happens, the judges can overturn it. okay scott, over to you. so who is in eonlrol— over to you. so who is in eonlrol ol— over to you. so who is in control of the— so who is in control of the country? the governnenl— control of the country? the governnenl .— control of the country? the government , the voters who've government, the voters who've repealelly— government, the voters who've repeatedly voted _ government, the voters who've repeatedly voted to take back eonlrol— repeatedly voted to take back eonlrol or— repeatedly voted to take back control or the _ repeatedly voted to take back control or the lefty lawyers? rnls— control or the lefty lawyers? rnls lsn-l— control or the lefty lawyers? this isn't about— control or the lefty lawyers? this isn't about lefty- control or the lefty lawyers? this isn't about lefty lawyers. this isn't about lefty lawyers. this isn't about lefty lawyers. this is about an independent laalelary— this is about an independent laalelary .— this is about an independent laalelary . ll-s— this is about an independent judiciary . it's really, really judiciary. it's really, really lngorlanl— judiciary. it's really, really important that— judiciary. it's really, really important that we have judges ano— important that we have judges also are— important that we have judges nno nol— important that we have judges who are not swayed by by oolllles— who are not swayed by by politics. right— who are not swayed by by politics. right and actually, if you— politics. right and actually, if yoa loon— politics. right and actually, if yoa lool al— politics. right and actually, if you look at the— politics. right and actually, if you look at the ruling , it was you look at the ruling, it was lone— you look at the ruling, it was lone on— you look at the ruling, it was done on, there— you look at the ruling, it was done on, there were three reason lnal— done on, there were three reason lnal lney— done on, there were three reason was that they found— done on, there were three reason was that they found out that it wasn-l— was that they found out that it wasn-l ngnl— was that they found out that it wasn't right and— was that they found out that it wasn't right and they were nonrea— wasn't right and they were worried that— wasn't right and they were worried that actually rwanda was a eoanlry— worried that actually rwanda was a eoanlry nnere— worried that actually rwanda was a country where there isn't an lnaenenlenl— a country where there isn't an independent judiciary, where it is independent judiciary, where it ls novel— independent judiciary, where it ls novel ly— independent judiciary, where it is moved by politics, and that people— is moved by politics, and that people lano— is moved by politics, and that people who have— is moved by politics, and that people who have a right to be

relagees— people who have a right to be refugees would _ people who have a right to be refugees would not end up being relagees— refugees would not end up being relagees anl— refugees would not end up being refugees and would be deported lnsleal— refugees and would be deported lnsleal. rney— refugees and would be deported instead. they also— refugees and would be deported instead. they also were worried lnal— instead. they also were worried lnal aelaally— instead. they also were worried that actually we _ instead. they also were worried that actually we that we would be lreallng— that actually we that we would be breaking international law. now— be breaking international law. loll ll— be breaking international law. loll ll yoa— be breaking international law. now, if you want— be breaking international law. now, if you want the truth, i lnlnl— now, if you want the truth, i lnlnl lne — now, if you want the truth, i think the supreme court will llnl— think the supreme court will llnl lor— think the supreme court will llnl lor lne— think the supreme court will find for the government. right. so find for the government. right. so lnls— find for the government. right. so an lsn-l— find for the government. right. so this isn't about lefty lawyers.— so this isn't about lefty lawyers. this- so this isn't about lefty lawyers. this is actually about the government— lawyers. this is actually about the government not getting its laels— the government not getting its laels ln— the government not getting its laels ln a— the government not getting its ducks in a row— the government not getting its ducks in a row before it does sonelllng— ducks in a row before it does sonelnlng. l— ducks in a row before it does something. i can— ducks in a row before it does something. i can talk about. ducks in a row before it does something. i can talk about . and something. i can talk about. and i'm something. i can talk about. and l-n very— something. i can talk about. and i'm very happy— something. i can talk about. and i'm very happy to_ something. i can talk about. and i'm very happy to say why i lnlnl— i'm very happy to say why i lnlnl ll-s— i'm very happy to say why i lnlnl ll-s a— i'm very happy to say why i think it's a rubbish thing. well— think it's a rubbish thing. lrell lell— think it's a rubbish thing. well, tell us. _ think it's a rubbish thing. well, tell us. okay, so what we snoall— well, tell us. okay, so what we snoall le— well, tell us. okay, so what we should be doing,— well, tell us. okay, so what we should be doing, we want to we nanl— should be doing, we want to we nanl lo— should be doing, we want to we nanl lo gel— should be doing, we want to we nanl lo gel rll— should be doing, we want to we want to get rid of— should be doing, we want to we want to get rid of illegal lllegal— want to get rid of illegal illegal immigration. we want to slop— illegal immigration. we want to slop lne— illegal immigration. we want to slop lne loals. — illegal immigration. we want to stop the boats. actually, stop the boats. then actually, why— stop the boats. then actually, why-get— stop the boats. then actually, any-gel a- stop the boats. then actually, why-get a decent. stop the boats. then actually,- why-get a decent asylum why don't we get a decent asylum syslen — why don't we get a decent asylum syslen onene— why don't we get a decent asylum system where we— why don't we get a decent asylum system where we send people back onene— system where we send people back nnere-nol— system where we send people back where-not spending- system where we send people back where not spending £6 where we're not spending £6 nllllon— where we're not spending £6 nllllon a— where we're not spending £6 nllllon a lay— where we're not spending £6 million a day on— where we're not spending £6 million a day on hotels that aelaally— million a day on hotels that actually we're— million a day on hotels that actually we're sending people pael— actually we're sending people back instead— actually we're sending people back instead of— actually we're sending people back instead of keeping them nerel — back instead of keeping them here? where— back instead of keeping them here? where to?— back instead of keeping them here? �*lez; r:::r7 back instead of keeping them here? air7 : back instead of keeping them here? rir7 : back instead of keeping them- here? where to? how would you do that? because the same judges that? because the same judges that stymieing this that are stymieing this legislation, getting through are also the same ones who are stopping flights even leaving for places like jamaica with flights loaded with murderers. no, each time there is

no, because each time there is a reason.imean, look,— no, because each time there is a reason. mean, look, we do not reason. i mean, look, we do not lye— reason. i mean, look, we do not llve ln— reason. i mean, look, we do not llve ln a— reason. i mean, look, we do not llve ln a eoanlry— reason. i mean, look, we do not live in a country of— reason. i mean, look, we do not live in a country of lefty lalges. — live in a country of lefty lalges. r— live in a country of lefty judges. i wish- live in a country of lefty judges. i wish it never nappenel.— judges. i wish it never nappenel. r- judges. i wish it never happened. i can promise you llal— happened. i can promise you that. honestly,— happened. i can promise you that. honestly, i— happened. i can promise you that. honestly, i mean, but what anal— that. honestly, i mean, but what anal ne— that. honestly, i mean, but what anal we really— that. honestly, i mean, but what what we really need to do is we neel— what we really need to do is we neel lo— what we really need to do is we neel lo gel— what we really need to do is we neel lo gel an— what we really need to do is we need to get an immigration syslen— need to get an immigration system where,— need to get an immigration system where, you know, within six system where, you know, within slx weesl— system where, you know, within six weeks, whether you're wnelner— six weeks, whether you're whether you're - six weeks, whether you're whether you're allowed to stay or wnelner— whether you're allowed to stay or whether you're _ whether you're allowed to stay or whether you're not. and lnsleal— or whether you're not. and lnsleallls— or whether you're not. and instead is literally years. instead it is literally years. llnl— instead it is literally years. anl larlng— instead it is literally years. and during those years, we pay for and during those years, we pay lor people— and during those years, we pay lor people lo— and during those years, we pay for people to stay— and during those years, we pay for people to stay in hotels . for people to stay in hotels. llgnl. — for people to stay in hotels. llgnl. llnl— for people to stay in hotels. llgnl. lnl ll— for people to stay in hotels. right. and it is— for people to stay in hotels. right. and it is absolutely ray— right. and it is absolutely ray so— right. and it is absolutely crazy. so instead of putting nllllons— crazy. so instead of putting millions into— crazy. so instead of putting millions into rwanda , a country, millions into rwanda, a country, i millions into rwanda, a country, r nave— millions into rwanda, a country, r nave lo— millions into rwanda, a country, r nave lo say— millions into rwanda, a country, r nave lo say .— millions into rwanda, a country, i have to say , that— millions into rwanda, a country, i have to say , that has been i have to say, that has been eonlennel— i have to say, that has been condemned by— i have to say, that has been condemned by the eu and the us leaase— condemned by the eu and the us lease ll-s— condemned by the eu and the us because it's having— condemned by the eu and the us because it's having a proxy war newl— because it's having a proxy war nexl loor— because it's having a proxy war nexl loor ln— because it's having a proxy war next door in the— because it's having a proxy war next door in the eastern aenoeralle— next door in the eastern democratic congo right there is a real— democratic congo right there is a real problem— democratic congo right there is a real problem with rwanda. rnere-s— a real problem with rwanda. lnere-s a— a real problem with rwanda. there's a problem about freedom of there's a problem about freedom ol speeen— there's a problem about freedom ol speeen ln— there's a problem about freedom of speech in rwanda. but anyway, lnsleal— of speech in rwanda. but anyway, lnsleal ol— of speech in rwanda. but anyway, instead of doing— of speech in rwanda. but anyway, instead of doing that, why don't we solve— instead of doing that, why don't we solve lne— instead of doing that, why don't we solve the problem here? and was— we solve the problem here? and lnal-s-we— we solve the problem here? and lnal-s-we-lo- we solve the problem here? and that's-we-to do.- we solve the problem here? and that's we to do. and that's what we need to do. and wnelner— that's what we need to do. and whether-send— that's what we need to do. and whether-send the- that's what we need to do. and whether send the odd person whether we send the odd person and whether we send the odd person anl-golng— whether we send the odd person anl-golng lo— whether we send the odd person anl-golng lo le- whether we send the odd person and going to be all of and it's not going to be all of men,— and it's not going to be all of them, whether— and it's not going to be all of them, whether we _ and it's not going to be all of

them, whether we send some lllgnls— them, whether we send some lllgnls lo— them, whether we send some flights to rwanda or not, what we nave— flights to rwanda or not, what we nave lo— flights to rwanda or not, what we nave lo lo— flights to rwanda or not, what we have to do .we- flights to rwanda or not, what we have to do we have to look we have to do is we have to look at we have to do is we have to look al lne— we have to do is we have to look al lne asylan— we have to do is we have to look at the asylum system. suzanne lean— at the asylum system. suzanne lean r— at the asylum system. suzanne lean r lnlnl— at the asylum system. suzanne yeah, i think there's quite a lot yeah, i think there's quite a lol|agree— yeah, i think there's quite a lotiagree with— yeah, i think there's quite a lot agree with actually on lot i agree with you actually on lnls— lot i agree with you actually on this, scarlett. _ lot i agree with you actually on this, scarlett. i— lot i agree with you actually on this, scarlett. i think just lrylng— this, scarlett. i think just lrylng lo— this, scarlett. i think just trying to brush to one side trying to brush this to one side by trying to brush this to one side ly saylng— trying to brush this to one side ly saylng lnal— trying to brush this to one side by saying that it's— trying to brush this to one side by saying that it's lefty lawyers— by saying that it's lefty lawyers and _ by saying that it's lefty lawyers and the house of lords lloellng— lawyers and the house of lords blocking—think- blocking everything. i think wnal— what the government's actually saylng—snarl- what the government's actually. saying—smart enough saying is we're not smart enough or-enoagn— saying is we're not smart enough or-enoagn lo— saying is we're not smart enough or enough to govern or tough enough to govern properly— or tough enough to govern properly concerns or tough enough to govern- properly-concerns me. properly and that concerns me. loa— properly and that concerns me. voa-leep— properly and that concerns me. you-keep passing- properly and that concerns me. you keep passing the buck. you can't keep passing the buck. rne— you can't keep passing the buck. the government's— you can't keep passing the buck. the government's a decision the government's made a decision for the government's made a decision lor-polley.— the government's made a decision lor-polley. ls— the government's made a decision lor-polley. ls r— the government's made a decision for-policy. as i said,- the government's made a decision for policy. as i said, it's for this policy. as i said, it's got— for this policy. as i said, it's gol-rllegal— for this policy. as i said, it's got illegal migration bill got the illegal migration bill going— got the illegal migration bill going parliament and going through parliament and lel-s— going through parliament and lel-s lasl— going through parliament and let's just remind— going through parliament and let's just remind ourselves of la— let's just remind ourselves of lnal-golng- let's just remind ourselves of lnal-golng lo- let's just remind ourselves of that going to change that bill. it's going to change the that bill. it's going to change lne—ll— that bill. it's going to change- the_it unambiguously the law to make it unambiguously clear— the law to make it unambiguously elear lnal— the law to make it unambiguously elear lnal ll— the law to make it unambiguously clear that if you— the law to make it unambiguously clear that if you enter the uk lllegally— clear that if you enter the uk lllegally .— clear that if you enter the uk lllegally , yoa— clear that if you enter the uk illegally , you will be illegally, you will not be allowel— illegally, you will not be allowed to _ illegally, you will not be allowed to stay . now i think allowed to stay. now i think lnal— allowed to stay. now i think an ls— allowed to stay. now i think that is brilliant— allowed to stay. now i think that is brilliant .— allowed to stay. now i think that is brilliant . i allowed to stay. now i think that is brilliant. i think allowed to stay. now i think that is brilliant . i think most that is brilliant. i think most people— that is brilliant. i think most people wno— that is brilliant. i think most people who would with that people who would agree with that are because why— people who would agree with that are because why on— people who would agree with that are because why on earth should we—eonlng- are because why on earth should we—eonlng nere- we have people coming here lllegally— we have people coming here lllegally-ap- we have people coming here illegally up those spaces illegally taking up those spaces in illegally taking up those spaces ln lne— illegally taking up those spaces ln lne nolels— illegally taking up those spaces in the hotels that— illegally taking up those spaces in the hotels that scarlett was lalllng — in the hotels that scarlett was lalllng-anl— in the hotels that scarlett was talking-and that- in the hotels that scarlett was talking and that actually talking about and that actually neansilnen— talking about and that actually means-then can't- talking about and that actually means then can't take in more means we then can't take in more genalne— means we then can't take in more genalneare—- genuine refugees who are genalnely— genuine refugees who are genuinely fleeing war torn oannles— genuinely fleeing war torn countries actually , if you are countries actually, if you are a if countries actually, if you are a ll yoae— countries actually, if you are a ll yoae a— countries actually, if you are a if you're a refugee— countries actually, if you are a if you're a refugee , you can't if you're a refugee, you can't come here illegally. i mean,

was— come here illegally. i mean, that's that's— come here illegally. i mean, that's that's that's the whole polnl— that's that's that's the whole polnl ls — that's that's that's the whole polnl ls ls— that's that's that's the whole polnl ls ls ll— that's that's that's the whole point is, is if you— that's that's that's the whole point is, is if you are a relagee— point is, is if you are a relagee .— point is, is if you are a relagee , yoa- point is, is if you are a refugee , you come here. and the refugee, you come here. and the prollen — refugee, you come here. and the prollen ls— refugee, you come here. and the prollen ls we— refugee, you come here. and the problem is we don't have safe oales— problem is we don't have safe oales lor— problem is we don't have safe routes for refugees. well, lnal-s— routes for refugees. well, was no— routes for refugees. well, that's not true. - routes for refugees. well, that's not true. how many alralnlan— that's not true. how many ukrainian refugees have we taken 7 ukrainian refugees have we taken l-nol— ukrainian refugees have we taken l-nol relagees. - ukrainian refugees have we taken ? not refugees. they've ? they're not refugees. they've all—lney-we- all been given they've all lney-re— all been given they've all they're refugees. and hong they're not refugees. and hong kong— they're not refugees. and hong kong afghanistan, they've they're not refugees. and hong korbeen afghanistan, they've they're not refugees. and hong korbeen given anistan, they've they're not refugees. and hong korbeen given visas. 1, they've all been given visas. afghanistan- all been given visas. afghanistan we should hang our neals— afghanistan we should hang our neals ln— afghanistan we should hang our heads in shame— afghanistan we should hang our heads in shame about afghanistan . rzaooo— heads in shame about afghanistan . 127,000 afghans— heads in shame about afghanistan . 127,000 afghans have- heads in shame about afghanistan . 127,000 afghans have come to the uk , 271 have gone to 27 the uk, 271 have gone to 27 european member states. i think with the more than our fair share, when there's a genuine demand, can i can i say why we had to take the afghans in? the reason is because actually- reason is because actually larope— reason is because actually larope wasnl— reason is because actually europe wasn't out there fighting . we— europe wasn't out there fighting . we wee— europe wasn't out there fighting . we were .there _ europe wasn't out there fighting . we were there fighting. we . we were out there fighting. we had . we were out there fighting. we nal algnanl — . we were out there fighting. we had afghani and— . we were out there fighting. we had afghani and afghani translators. _ had afghani and afghani translators. people translators. we had people lelllng— translators. we had people lelllnglwe— translators. we had people telling-we were- translators. we had people telling we were training and telling us we were training and lnese— telling us we were training and lnese people— telling us we were training and these people because of us, are in these people because of us, are ln lear— these people because of us, are ln lear ol— these people because of us, are in fear of their— these people because of us, are in fear of their lives. when i worllng— in fear of their lives. when i was working in— in fear of their lives. when i was working in afghanistan , khan was working in afghanistan, khan all we— was working in afghanistan, khan all the afghans— was working in afghanistan, khan all the afghans who came into the all the afghans who came into lne lrlllsn— all the afghans who came into the british embassy, they had to nave— the british embassy, they had to nave yoa— the british embassy, they had to leave yoa know,— the british embassy, they had to have you know, they were they nal— have you know, they were they nal lo — have you know, they were they nal lo le. — have you know, they were they had to be. the— have you know, they were they had to be. the bottom line is we all-ap— had to be. the bottom line is we all-ap on— had to be. the bottom line is we all up on afghanistan . all screwed up on afghanistan. we all screwed up on afghanistan. we eerlalnly— all screwed up on afghanistan. we certainly screwed up on

we certainly did screwed up on llgnanlslan— we certainly did screwed up on afghanistan on— we certainly did screwed up on afghanistan on we up on afghanistan on we screwed up on llglanlslan— afghanistan on we screwed up on afghanistan. the— afghanistan on we screwed up on afghanistan. the whole thing is an alsolale,— afghanistan. the whole thing is an absolute, unmitigated llsaslen— an absolute, unmitigated disaster.-sorry,. an absolute, unmitigated disaster. sorry, this disaster. but i'm sorry, this eonslanl— disaster. but i'm sorry, this constant soundbite i hear from the constant soundbite i hear from we lell— constant soundbite i hear from the left-there— constant soundbite i hear from the left-there are- constant soundbite i hear from the left there are no safe the left that there are no safe anl— the left that there are no safe anl legal— the left that there are no safe and legal routes— the left that there are no safe and legal routes for refugees. anal— and legal routes for refugees. lnal ls— and legal routes for refugees. that is rubbish.— and legal routes for refugees. that is rubbish. but a safe lnlng— that is rubbish. but a safe lnlng lor— that is rubbish. but a safe lnlng lor a— that is rubbish. but a safe thing for a safe- that is rubbish. but a safe thing for a safe and legal route , say— thing for a safe and legal route , say lo— thing for a safe and legal route , say lo people— thing for a safe and legal route , say to people traffickers to snagglers. — , say to people traffickers to smugglers. cireliri; , say to people traffickers to smugglers. a " smugglers. game the system in that way. if we can't stop illegal, which patently the government has failed to do at every turn, not a single person has been deported to rwanda . how has been deported to rwanda. how on earth is making it easier to get here going to possibly help? i'm trying to say make it i'm not trying to say make it easier to get here. what i'm lrylng— easier to get here. what i'm lrylng lo— easier to get here. what i'm lrylng lo say— easier to get here. what i'm lrylng lo say ls— easier to get here. what i'm trying to say is, is- gig ”llifii: what i'm trying to say is, is actually we-we-lne- trying to say is, is actually we've the geneva we've signed the geneva convention.— we've signed the geneva convention. there a whole convention. there is a whole problem— convention. there is a whole prollen anl— convention. there is a whole problem and it's— convention. there is a whole problem and it's a worldwide pollen.— problem and it's a worldwide prollen. rl-s— problem and it's a worldwide problem. it's certainly a laropean— problem. it's certainly a european problem about about relagees— european problem about about refugees, about— european problem about about refugees, about people fleeing eonlllel— refugees, about people fleeing conflict. right— refugees, about people fleeing conflict. right real serious relagees— conflict. right real serious refugees isn't— conflict. right real serious refugees isn't a— conflict. right real serious refugees isn't a war zone. well.— refugees isn't a war zone. well. ll— refugees isn't a war zone. well. ll ls— refugees isn't a war zone. well, it is at— refugees isn't a war zone. well, it is at the- refugees isn't a war zone. well, it is at the moment. okay. so let's say to france , okay. so let's say to france, you keep them, you keep them, you keep them, you keep them, you keep them, you keep them, you keep these people who really, really don't want to live here. this isn't these are

people in the main. right. who come over. they've already crossed the mediterranean . they crossed the mediterranean. they are willing to they are willing to risk their lives to get here. yeah most of them. most of them are actually the people who cross the mediterranean. most of them say germany or france . i them say germany or france. i think in your your monologue there, you have practically admitted that you don't think that these these men and it is mostly across mostly men coming across a genuine refugee . so that's genuine refugee. so that's a great let's bank that one great one. let's bank that one and let's just didn't. i think you have by by what? by what you're saying, you know normal refugee columns are women. they are children. they people are children. they are people who are they're people who are not desperate they have paid not desperate. they have paid people traffickers . £4,000. just not desperate. they have paid plminute.rffickers . £4,000. just not desperate. they have paid plminute. most rs . £4,000. just not desperate. they have paid plminute. most people 000. just not desperate. they have paid plminute. most people fleeing;t a minute. most people fleeing for their they are not most people fleeing for their lives are actually young men. you look at the people who are being arrested in syria, in somalia , arrested in syria, in somalia, in all those places, they are young men. right. and the women who there are really amazing who get there are really amazing ipp complaining about their hotels. put them up in

hotels. once we put them up in them. yeah. and i think that is them. yeah. and i think that is we polnl— them. yeah. and i think that is the point when— them. yeah. and i think that is the point when we— yeah. and i think that is the point when we look at the nelrles— the point when we look at the nelrles ol— the point when we look at the metrics of the— the point when we look at the metrics of the finance. for example— metrics of the finance. for example rwanda metrics of the finance. for example-rwanda has example, the rwanda plan has leen— example, the rwanda plan has been criticised— example, the rwanda plan has been criticised-of- example, the rwanda plan has been criticised of its been criticised because of its greal— been criticised because of its greal eosl— been criticised because of its great cost £169,000 per person to great cost £169,000 per person lo lo,— great cost £169,000 per person lo lo, leporl— great cost £169,000 per person to to, deport them— great cost £169,000 per person to to, deport them 63,000 more lnan— to to, deport them 63,000 more lnan leeplng— to to, deport them 63,000 more than keeping them— to to, deport them 63,000 more than keeping them here. but of lnal— than keeping them here. but of course that that— than keeping them here. but of course that that that means that if course that that that means that l we— course that that that means that l we early— course that that that means that l we carry on— course that that that means that l we carry on al— course that that that means that if we carry on at current rates pal— if we carry on at current rates lal sarely— if we carry on at current rates but surely the _ if we carry on at current rates but surely the whole point of the but surely the whole point of we lwanla— but surely the whole point of the rwanda plan is a deterrent anl— the rwanda plan is a deterrent anl nlgrallon— the rwanda plan is a deterrent and migration watch today announced that 37% downturn in annals— announced that 37% downturn in arrivals would _ announced that 37% downturn in arrivals would make this cost nealral— arrivals would make this cost neutral. rwanda,— arrivals would make this cost neutral. rwanda, compared to were— neutral. rwanda, compared to where-currently- neutral. rwanda, compared to where currently are. so the where we currently are. so the llnanelal— where we currently are. so the financial criticisms aren't wall.— financial criticisms aren't all lney— financial criticisms aren't valid. they don't add up in the long— valid. they don't add up in the long ran.— valid. they don't add up in the long lern. ll— valid. they don't add up in the long term. it would be cost elleelwe— long term. it would be cost effective to _ long term. it would be cost effective to do _ long term. it would be cost effective to do this. absolutely llnl— effective to do this. absolutely anl ll-s— effective to do this. absolutely anl ll-s gol— effective to do this. absolutely anl ll-s gal lo— effective to do this. absolutely and it's got to be— effective to do this. absolutely and it's got to be done.- effective to do this. absolutely and it's got to be done. the boats have got to be stopped. other countries have managed to do must try and do it, do it. we must try and do it, too, because i cannot think of anything in anything more lacking in compassion than than this continuing continuing continuing people continuing to risk that risk their lives, making that crossing to crossing people, continuing to take in our safe haven take places in our safe haven country from genuine people in need. okay, scarlet , final word need. okay, scarlet, final word to you. so you said you expect me— to you. so you said you expect the government— to you. so you said you expect the government to _ so you said you expect the government to be found in laoa— the government to be found in laoa ol— the government to be found in laoa ol lne — the government to be found in

favour of the supreme court, but sarely— favour of the supreme court, but sarely-wlll— favour of the supreme court, but sarely-wlll le— favour of the supreme court, but surely will be another surely there will be another appeal— surely there will be another appeal-lnal. - surely there will be another. appeal-that. .you appeal against that. and you know,— appeal against that. and you know, chakrabarti, the know, baroness chakrabarti, the people—wru- people like that this will go all-lo— people like that this will go all-to-european all the way to the european coal— all the way to the european coal-llgnls. - all the way to the european court rights. and all the way to the european. court-rights. and at court of human rights. and at lnal— court of human rights. and at an polnl— court of human rights. and at that point, they're buying for gag,— that point, they're buying for llne, laylng— that point, they're buying for time, buying for— that point, they're buying for time, buying for hoping time, buying for time, hoping for time, buying for time, hoping lor a— time, buying for time, hoping lor a laloar— time, buying for time, hoping for a labour government. will we ever be able to implement a slngle— ever be able to implement a single deportation to rwanda? i nope— single deportation to rwanda? i nope-r— single deportation to rwanda? i nope-r lope— single deportation to rwanda? i hope-i hope instead- single deportation to rwanda? i hope-i hope instead we. hope not. i hope instead we actually out our actually sort out our immigration system so that people are back and the people are sent back and the refugees who are genuine refugees who are genuine refugees are kept here and are allowed to work. i mean that's the whole point. what we do is with £6 million a day that we could save if we had a decent asylum system, surely if they're allowed to work, that's that's a that's a basic de facto open border. i think it absolutely is. and once you're once you're a refugee, once you've got without documentation illegally, once you're allowed to work, how can you get here legally if we don't have any routes on which you can flee syria , flee iran, you can flee syria, flee iran, flee somalia , right. flee the flee somalia, right. flee the mess that we've made in iraq,

flee to free flee to france. okay, that's great. so let the french deal with it. the french and the germans who actually take not why they want to, who take not why they want to, who take well of course it is not why they want to come here. they come here because they've come here often because they've got or they speak got family or they speak english. well, sorry, but english. well, i'm sorry, but you know, people who you know, so have people who live need the services live here who need the services of who need the of the nhs, who need the services the public sector, services of the public sector, that struggling . that we are now struggling. we're come on talking we're going to come on talking about nhs in minute, but about the nhs in a minute, but the is our population the fact is our population cannot continue to grow as exponentially as it as exponentially as it has as a result of immigration foreign, and keep coming and these boats will keep coming . will keep getting tens of . we will keep getting tens of thousands people every year thousands of people every year coming we have to home coming. we will have to home them. will have school them. we will have to school their their families, their children, their families, whatever saying whatever we are not saying what's with a decent what's wrong with a decent immigration system. scarlet susan on immigration system. scarlet susan ion - scarlet. - immigration system. scarlet. susanion-scarlet. susan. susan, on with scarlet. susan. we— susan, on with scarlet. susan. we raven-l— susan, on with scarlet. susan. we nawen-l gol— susan, on with scarlet. susan. we haven't got one— susan, on with scarlet. susan. we haven't got one right. - we haven't got one right. feisty opening to the show. we haven't got one right. - feisty opening to the show. wow. i feisty opening to the show. wow. r nope— feisty opening to the show. wow. r nope yoae— feisty opening to the show. wow. i hope you're keeping wide awake out i hope you're keeping wide awake oal were.— i hope you're keeping wide awake oal were we— i hope you're keeping wide awake out there. we are— i hope you're keeping wide awake out there. we are certainly in we— out there. we are certainly in we slale— out there. we are certainly in we slale ol— out there. we are certainly in the state of thank you that, the state of thank you for that, lal— the state of thank you for that, pal-aroanl— the state of thank you for that, but-around.the- the state of thank you for that, but around the nhs but stick around for the nhs lelale— but stick around for the nhs lelalelwe— but stick around for the nhs debate..we just- but stick around for the nhs debate. we just said, you're debate. as we just said, you're walenlng— debate. as we just said, you're walenlng or— debate. as we just said, you're watching or listening to gb

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listening to gb news radio. welcome back. i'm laurence listening to gb news radio.- - welcome back. i'm laurence fox. . welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight identifying— - welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight il.entifying_ - welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight il. andying_ . welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight it. and join— . welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight it. and join me— . welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight it. and join me in— welcome back. i'm laurence fox. tonight it. and join me in the daubney. and join me in the slallo— daubney. and join me in the slallo ls— daubney. and join me in the studio is former— daubney. and join me in the studio is former labour adviser scarlell— studio is former labour adviser scarlell-anl- studio is former labour adviser scarlett and political scarlett mccgwire and political eornrnenaorll— scarlett mccgwire and political commentator suzanne evans . well, commentator suzanne evans. well, we-oll— commentator suzanne evans. well, we-oll wlln— commentator suzanne evans. well, we-oll wlln a— commentator suzanne evans. well, we-off with a great— commentator suzanne evans. well, we off with a great start on we got off with a great start on the we got off with a great start on we lwanla— we got off with a great start on the rwanda debate and now let's move on to round— the rwanda debate and now let's move on to round two. ding, ding in move on to round two. ding, ding ln a— move on to round two. ding, ding ln a snook— move on to round two. ding, ding in a shock move— move on to round two. ding, ding in a shock move to— move on to round two. ding, ding in a shock move to win. gliri " in a shock move to win. agree in a snack.— in a shock move to win. agree in a shock, move to win votes, the tories have adopted a labour party dragged it up party policy and dragged it up to look like one their own. to look like one of their own. a 15 year plan for the nhs and laloar— a 15 year plan for the nhs and now labour are— a 15 year plan for the nhs and now labour are struggling to erlllelse— now labour are struggling to erlllelse ll— now labour are struggling to criticise it because it's exaelly— criticise it because it's exactly what- criticise it because it's exactly what they would have wanlel— exactly what they would have wanlel lo — exactly what they would have wanted to do. _

exactly what they would have wanted to do. well you're walenlng— wanted to do. well you're walenlng or— wanted to do. well you're watching or listening to gb wews. — watching or listening to gb wews. slal— watching or listening to gb news. still to— watching or listening to gb news. still to come, king cnarles— news. still to come, king charles has— news. still to come, king charles has been spotted with sallg— charles has been spotted with sallg lnan— charles has been spotted with sadiq khan and— charles has been spotted with sadiq khan and a climate eoanllown— sadiq khan and a climate countdown more like countdown clock more like a loonslay— countdown clock more like a doomsday clock,— countdown clock more like a doomsday clock, you ask me . doomsday clock, if you ask me. we— doomsday clock, if you ask me. rne prlnee— doomsday clock, if you ask me. rne pnnee ol— doomsday clock, if you ask me. the prince of plants is now the llng—enange. - the prince of plants is now the king—change. but. king of climate change. but snoall— king of climate change. but should-getting- king of climate change. but should getting involved should he be getting involved in pollllesl— should he be getting involved in politics?-back_ should he be getting involved in politics?-back .— should he be getting involved in politics?-back . in- should he be getting involved in politics? back . in three. politics? we're back. in three. anal-s— politics? we're back. in three. rnal-s lne— politics? we're back. in three. that's the wrong.— politics? we're back. in three. that's the wrong. but they also 90, that's the wrong. but they also go, okay,— that's the wrong. but they also go, olay, lel-s— that's the wrong. but they also go, olay, lets go— that's the wrong. but they also go, okay, let's go on again. now— go, okay, let's go on again. now r— go, okay, let's go on again. now r lon-l— go, okay, let's go on again. now, i don't know about you, but i now, i don't know about you, but r only— now, i don't know about you, but r only wanlel— now, i don't know about you, but i only wanted to. _ now, i don't know about you, but i only wanted to. okay. we're lolng— i only wanted to. okay. we're lolng lne— i only wanted to. okay. we're doing the panel— i only wanted to. okay. we're doing the panel on the nhs. the aaolae— doing the panel on the nhs. the aaolae nas— doing the panel on the nhs. the autocue has gone— doing the panel on the nhs. the autocue has gone down. so let's slal— autocue has gone down. so let's slarl wlln— autocue has gone down. so let's slarl wlln yoa— autocue has gone down. so let's start with you now.— autocue has gone down. so let's start with you now. let's start wlln— start with you now. let's start wlln yoa— start with you now. let's start wlln yoa lnls— start with you now. let's start with you this time, scarlett. so a la— with you this time, scarlett. so a ll ye..— with you this time, scarlett. so all yea. lnls— with you this time, scarlett. so a 15 year, this is— with you this time, scarlett. so a 15 year, this is what happens . a la— a 15 year, this is what happens . a ll year— a 15 year, this is what happens .a ll year plan. — a 15 year, this is what happens . a 15 year plan. yeah £24 . a15 year plan. yeah £24 lllllon— . a15 year plan. yeah £24 billion has— . a15 year plan. yeah £24 billion has gone- . a15 year plan. yeah £24 billion has gone into the nhs , a billion has gone into the nhs, a yay,— billion has gone into the nhs, a very, very— billion has gone into the nhs, a very, very laloar— billion has gone into the nhs, a very, very labour party style polley— very, very labour party style polley .— very, very labour party style polley . nal— very, very labour party style polley . nal ls— very, very labour party style policy . but is it— very, very labour party style policy . but is it enough? very, very labour party style policy. but is it enough? is it loo— policy. but is it enough? is it loo llllle— policy. but is it enough? is it too little too— policy. but is it enough? is it too little too late, or is the ongolng— too little too late, or is the ongolng was— too little too late, or is the ongoing nhs crisis, which has leen— ongoing nhs crisis, which has leen aroanl— ongoing nhs crisis, which has been around since i was a kid, lasl— been around since i was a kid, lasl golng— been around since i was a kid, lasl golng lo— been around since i was a kid, just going to roll— been around since i was a kid, just going to roll on forever ? just going to roll on forever? okay.— just going to roll on forever? okay. so— just going to roll on forever? okay. so r— just going to roll on forever? okay, so i think— just going to roll on forever? okay, so i think there- just going to roll on forever? okay, so i think there are two different parts to it. so this is a long term plan which which

if you look at it, isn't even going to be put into place until after the election. so clearly, i mean, basically what rishi is saying is whoever vote for, saying is whoever you vote for, you're going to get this long term plan. it's absolute taken from from from labour. they're not they're not criticising it at all. actually. they're saying this is great, this is great, this is great, this is great, this is great, this is great, this is what we want. we want done. we're it's so important that we have it. six years ago, they promised us this. it's taken six years to come up with it, to come up with this plan. meanwhile while wes streeting , meanwhile while wes streeting, you know, came up with the plan in i'm not in months. so actually i'm not impressed . but real problem impressed. but the real problem with nhs , i mean, obviously with the nhs, i mean, obviously in the term we certainly in the long term we certainly need a workforce. we certainly need a workforce. we certainly need doctors, we need need many more doctors, we need more nurses, we need retention . more nurses, we need retention. but actually it doesn't deal with, you know, are you going to get for in time? get treated for cancer in time? we're breaking the targets. are we going to see our gp? i hear it's now two weeks that i mean, and for a lot of people two weeks is too long. every single

target that they try to get is being missed at the moment, right? and actually what people want is they want a proper nhs now, not not in in five years time. suzanne, isn't the problem gaggl— time. suzanne, isn't the problem , lnoagn lnal— time. suzanne, isn't the problem , though, that this— time. suzanne, isn't the problem , though, that this is— a suzanne, isn't the problem , though, that this is just more of , though, that this is just more ol lne— , though, that this is just more ol lne sarnel— , though, that this is just more of the same? it's— , though, that this is just more of the same? it's more money no— of the same? it's more money lnlo a— of the same? it's more money lnlo a leaky— of the same? it's more money into a leaky bucket. they're enaellng— into a leaky bucket. they're chucking endless money at it. laloar— chucking endless money at it. laloar-polley. - chucking endless money at it. labour-policy. is- chucking endless money at it. labour policy. is this labour style policy. is this aelaally— labour style policy. is this actually the _ labour style policy. is this actually the way to do it or or do actually the way to do it or or lo we — actually the way to do it or or lo we neel— actually the way to do it or or do we need to _ actually the way to do it or or do we need to look at a more rool— do we need to look at a more serious root and— do we need to look at a more serious root and branch reform of serious root and branch reform ol-wwsl - serious root and branch reform ol-wwsl r- serious root and branch reform of-nhs? i think. serious root and branch reformi of-nhs? i think we of the entire nhs? i think we absolutely do. i mean, the fact is, since nhs was founded 75 is, since the nhs was founded 75 years ago and let's not forget next week is its 75th birthday, so there'll of worship so there'll be a lot of worship at shrine of nhs. i was at the shrine of the nhs. i was very impressed with wes streeting labour today saying streeting labour mp today saying remember the nhs is a service, not a shrine, and i think we'd all do well to remember that next week. but here we are. it's since was founded 75 years since it was founded 75 years ago, has changed, changed ago, it has changed, changed beyond living beyond belief. we are all living so longer. medical advances so much longer. medical advances have leaps and have come on in leaps and bounds. so diseases that we didn't even know existed 75 years ago can can now be treated and cured . massive demographic

and cured. massive demographic change. so here we are. it's about time. i think we had a wholesale review of it, a royal commission , even to look at the commission, even to look at the nhs and say what's working, what isn't, how does it need to change the problem? we have is i've just alluded to it's a sacred cow. no politician on any side of the house or in any political party actually wants to do that because they're terrified of a voter backlash. it's so much easier to behave like it's a cult that we must all worship up. but but we've got to but, you know, scarlet's also right. we've heard this all before for jeremy hunt, when also right. we've heard this all before forjeremy hunt, when he before for jeremy hunt, when he was health secretary, told tory party conference back in 2016 that he wanted to create an extra 1500 places in medical schools to make the nhs self sufficient . but within nine sufficient. but within nine years in doctors, well, that went well, didn't it? i mean , it went well, didn't it? i mean, it didn't happen. i know we had covid in the midst of it that only made things worse. of course , turning the nhs into

course, turning the nhs into a covid only service was going to cause the massive problems that we've got now. 7.4 million people on the nhs waiting list, a record high serious diseases such as cancers going undetected, people dying unnecessarily because it was shut down. an appalling thing to do . and frankly, i can't forgive do. and frankly, i can't forgive anyone on either side of the house because they all wanted that actually . can we quickly that actually. can we quickly deal with the covid thing ? the deal with the covid thing? the reason i mean , it wasn't covid reason i mean, it wasn't covid only hospitals. i mean, there were people it was. no, but actually the reason was that people were dying. i mean, a friend of mine was told he could not he had terminal cancer. he could not have any more chemotherapy because they had they didn't have enough ventilator doctors for the people with covid. i mean, remember , i mean, you know, when remember, i mean, you know, when bofis remember, i mean, you know, when boris johnson went into hospital, right. i mean , hospital, right. i mean, genuinely, he might have died. he was put on a ventilator. this was happening to tens of thousands of people . a screening

thousands of people. a screening programs don't need ventilators and gp services . no. and you're and gp services. no. and you're and gp services. no. and you're and you're completely right. susanna and shut the gp surgeries. they shut all the roofs. they were crazy patients. they shut out patients . it was they shut out patients. it was a disaster. can we they shut out patients. it was a disaster . can we get back onto disaster. can we get back onto onlo— disaster. can we get back onto onlo lnls— disaster. can we get back onto onto this debate?— r: can we get back onto onto this debate? and the covid lelale— onto this debate? and the covid lelale ls— onto this debate? and the covid debate is fascinating and one lnal— debate is fascinating and one an wlll— debate is fascinating and one that will roll— debate is fascinating and one that will roll on— debate is fascinating and one that will roll on for years. we nawen-l— that will roll on for years. we nawen-l a— that will roll on for years. we haven't a proper— that will roll on for years. we haven't a proper inquiry, but on lnls— haven't a proper inquiry, but on an speellle— haven't a proper inquiry, but on this specific plan— haven't a proper inquiry, but on this specific plan to improve lnlngs— this specific plan to improve lnlngs was— this specific plan to improve things was-the- this specific plan to improve things was the nhs was not things was that the nhs was not fit things was that the nhs was not lll lor— things was that the nhs was not lll lor parpose— things was that the nhs was not fit for purpose then. l/ri;rel“ fit for purpose then. yeah, anal-s— fit for purpose then. yeah, anal-s whal— fit for purpose then. yeah, that's what it— fit for purpose then. yeah, that's what it shows and we're suffering the consequences of that single day. record that every single day. record backlogs, as-said,- that every single day. record backlogs, as-said, or- backlogs, as you said, or lease— backlogs, as you said, or because of— backlogs, as you said, or because of the- backlogs, as you said, or because of the lockdown, really not because of the lockdown, really nol leaase— because of the lockdown, really not because underfunding, but not because of underfunding, but wnal— not because of underfunding, but wnal-lo— not because of underfunding, but wnal-lo gel— not because of underfunding, but what-to get from - not because of underfunding, but what to get from you is, what i want to get from you is, is what i want to get from you is, ls-olner— what i want to get from you is, is-other solution- is there any other solution allowel— is there any other solution allowel lo — is there any other solution allowed to the— is there any other solution allowed to the nhs other than saylng— allowed to the nhs other than saylng lel-s— allowed to the nhs other than saying let's pump endless lllllons— saying let's pump endless billions of— saying let's pump endless billions of pounds into it? what aloal— billions of pounds into it? what aloal lony— billions of pounds into it? what about tony blair,— billions of pounds into it? what about tony blair, your old mate? he about tony blair, your old mate? ae nal— about tony blair, your old mate? ae nal very— about tony blair, your old mate? he had very clever— about tony blair, your old mate? he had very clever ideas on the was— he had very clever ideas on the was aloal— he had very clever ideas on the was aloal parl— he had very clever ideas on the nhs about part private, part palle— nhs about part private, part pallle. anal— nhs about part private, part public. what about the idea of incentivising_ public. what about the idea of incentivising wealthier people to incentivising wealthier people lo go— incentivising wealthier people lo go palle— incentivising wealthier people to go private, to— incentivising wealthier people to go private, to lessen the larlen— to go private, to lessen the larlen so— to go private, to lessen the burden so those- to go private, to lessen the burden so those needier of the of burden so those needier of the ol lne— burden so those needier of the ol lne ol—

burden so those needier of the ol lne ol a— burden so those needier of the of the of a public— burden so those needier of the of the of a public provided any seraee— of the of a public provided any seraee ean— of the of a public provided any service can can— of the of a public provided any service can can can get the bed space— service can can can get the bed spaee anl— service can can can get the bed spaee anl lne— service can can can get the bed space and the operations they neel. — space and the operations they neel. woall— space and the operations they need. would you— space and the operations they need. would you like that this is need. would you like that this ls lnls— need. would you like that this ls lnls ls— need. would you like that this is this is exactly— need. would you like that this is this is exactly what happens ls— is this is exactly what happens ls lnal— is this is exactly what happens now is that everybody knows so my-just_ now is that everybody knows so ny-lasl nal— now is that everybody knows so ny-lasl nal a— now is that everybody knows so my just had a motorbike my brotherjust had a motorbike aeellenl— my brotherjust had a motorbike accident yesterday . . "gear accident yesterday. amazingly a ambulance was going past minutes later. so he did get taken to hospital. he knows that if they only pinned his hip instead of giving him a new one tomorrow morning, as they will, then he'd have 18 months at least to wait for it. and what happens is, i mean, a lot of people i know go private because they can't wait. there's nothing new about that. that's been going on for absolute decades that the rich are. because if you go private, you get treated faster. there's no question it's not, oh, i've got a lot of money, so i'll pay for it. it's i've got a lot of money, so i want it in two weeks time. the whole ethos of the labour party seems to make the people who have private health care and send their kids to private school to pay so

private school to pay more. so actually it's going to make things worse. so i think labour policy is completely, policy is policy is completely, doesn't i don't think doesn't it? i don't think i don't labour, labour don't think labour, labour is doing anything about about private mean, private health care. i mean, what they know is, is, is that that, that people private. that, that people go private. i mean masses people go mean i mean masses of people go private they private because, because they have no choice and the people who really sorry for are, who i feel really sorry for are, are masses of people who are are the masses of people who are called skivers, who are sort of lots of people in their 40s and 50s who cannot work, who are waiting for operations and getting worse and don't have the money to go. part of the pollen,— money to go. part of the problem, though,- 7liiil"liil«r grir part of the problem, though, suzanne, is aa— problem, though, suzanne, is an people— problem, though, suzanne, is that people are— problem, though, suzanne, is that people are having to go prlwale— that people are having to go private because _ that people are having to go private because they're trying to private because they're trying lo snoa— private because they're trying to short circuit— private because they're trying to short circuit these massive laellogs— to short circuit these massive backlogs that— to short circuit these massive backlogs that were caused by loellowns. — lockdowns. i've had friends who nave— lockdowns. i've had friends who have—screenings have been for cancer screenings leaase— have been for cancer screenings lease anl— have been for cancer screenings because and they— have been for cancer screenings because and they and they've leen— because and they and they've been - positive - because and they and they've been - positive for- because and they and they've been positive for cancer because and they and they've bthey're positive for cancer because and they and they've bthey're missedtive for cancer because and they and they've bthey're missed because ancer because and they and they've bthey're missed because of :er . they're missed because of loollown— . they're missed because of lockdown. -that i . they're missed because of lockdown. that it's lockdown. so to say that it's a polllleal— lockdown. so to say that it's a political issue _ lockdown. so to say that it's a political issue i— lockdown. so to say that it's a political issue i think is nlsslng— political issue i think is missing the— political issue i think is missing the point because eweryloly— missing the point because everybody played along with loellowns. — everybody played along with lockdowns. everybody calls this nololy— lockdowns. everybody calls this nololy .— lockdowns. everybody calls this nololy , nololy— lockdowns. everybody calls this nobody , nobody sort of nobody, nobody sort of questioned— nobody, nobody sort of questioned those . i mean, in questioned those. i mean, in lerns— questioned those. i mean, in rerns ol— questioned those. i mean, in rerns ol lne— questioned those. i mean, in terms of the main political pales— terms of the main political pales-al- terms of the main political parties-at the- terms of the main political parties at the time. parties in power at the time. lean. — parties in power at the time. lean. so—

parties in power at the time. yeah. so what— parties in power at the time. yeah. so what i— parties in power at the time. yeah. so what i want to get to we— yeah. so what i want to get to we rool— yeah. so what i want to get to we rool ol— yeah. so what i want to get to the root of is— yeah. so what i want to get to the root of is this— yeah. so what i want to get to the root of is this just another sllellng— the root of is this just another sticking plaster— the root of is this just another sticking plaster ?_ the root of is this just another sticking plaster ? and do we what sticking plaster? and do we what aloal— sticking plaster? and do we what about procurement— sticking plaster? and do we what about procurement ? what about about procurement? what about lwerslly— about procurement? what about diversity officers?— about procurement? what about diversity officers? what about ellnale — diversity officers? what about climate change _ diversity officers? what about climate change roles? what about gelllng— climate change roles? what about gelllng pael— climate change roles? what about gelllng lael lo— climate change roles? what about getting back to basics and streamline— getting back to basics and streamline and— getting back to basics and streamline and trimming the fat and streamline and trimming the fat anl nallng— streamline and trimming the fat anl nallng ll— streamline and trimming the fat and making it about patient care,-signallingl and making it about patient care, signalling ? and making it about patient. care,-signalling ? i care, not virtue signalling? i lolally— care, not virtue signalling? i lolally areeg— care, not virtue signalling? i totally agree. i— care, not virtue signalling? i totally agree. i mean,- care, not virtue signalling? i totally agree. i mean, i- care, not virtue signalling? i totally agree. i mean, i think it's a taxpayer's taxpayer alliance identified alliance has identified something 13,000 staff in something like 13,000 staff in sort of so—called non—jobs within nhs that are costing within the nhs that are costing a fortune, you know, play and communication art communication workers, art curators , carbon managers, this curators, carbon managers, this kind thing . and i was kind of thing. and i was disappointed that part of this seems to be just pumping more money into the into the nhs. i was particularly concerned too, when rishi sunak was talking about improving pensions as as a way to try and retain nhs staff. i mean nhs staff already get 14.3% on top of their salary, whereas as the average in the private sector is only 3. okay, scholar it's a, it's an- 3 okay, scholar it's a, it's an endless money— scholar it's a, it's an endless noney pl— scholar it's a, it's an endless noney pl anl— scholar it's a, it's an endless money pit and that's got to slop. — money pit and that's got to slop. searlel—

money pit and that's got to stop. scarlet final word to you. ane— stop. scarlet final word to you. rne lones— stop. scarlet final word to you. the tories have— stop. scarlet final word to you. the tories have stolen labour's elolnlng— the tories have stolen labour's elolnlng lolay. — the tories have stolen labour's clothing today. how do you feel aloal— clothing today. how do you feel aloal lnall— clothing today. how do you feel aloal lnall — clothing today. how do you feel about that? i— clothing today. how do you feel about that? i think— clothing today. how do you feel about that? i think i- clothing today. how do you feel about that? i think i think it's great because it was a really good policy and now we know it's going to be enacted id but i think we're going to get in there anyway. and because it's think we're going to get in theigoing vay. and because it's think we're going to get in theigoing vayhappenzcause it's think we're going to get in theigoing vayhappen before it's think we're going to get in theigoing vayhappen before the not going to happen before the election, just if you look at the small print, uh, nothing is happening election , happening before the election, even to be very even rishi seemed to be very downbeat whole thing. downbeat about the whole thing. he to have any he didn't seem to have any passion in it as far as i can see. i think he knows he's not going to perhaps be around to enact it. i think he needs a bit of enact it. i think he needs a bit ol a— enact it. i think he needs a bit ol a nolllay— enact it. i think he needs a bit of a holiday himself.- , a i think he needs a bit of a holiday himself. scarlett weegwlre— of a holiday himself. scarlett rleegwlre als— of a holiday himself. scarlett mccgwire it's always a pleasure. llnl— mccgwire it's always a pleasure.| llnl—very and susan evans, thank you very naen. — and susan evans, thank you very naen. .lelsly— and susan evans, thank you very much. feisty debate. thanks much. very feisty debate. thanks for much. very feisty debate. thanks lor-on— much. very feisty debate. thanks lor-on lne— much. very feisty debate. thanks for-on the lawrence. for joining us on the lawrence row— for joining us on the lawrence row-lonlgnl. — for joining us on the lawrencei fox-tonight. -you're fox show tonight. okay. you're walenlng—lo- fox show tonight. okay. you're watching—to gbi watching and listening to gb weas— watching and listening to gb aews. slal— watching and listening to gb news. still to— watching and listening to gb news. still to come, king cnarles— news. still to come, king charles spotted news. still to come, king- charles-spotted with charles has been spotted with sallg— sadiq khan at a climate countdown— sadiq khan at a climate countdown clock. the prince of plans— countdown clock. the prince of planls-lne— countdown clock. the prince of plants-the king- countdown clock. the prince of plants-the king of- plants is now the king of ellnale— plants is now the king of climate change. but should he even—involved- climate change. but should he even—involved in. even be getting involved in pollllesl— even be getting involved in politics?-back-

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gb news radio. welcome back to the show. now i don't know about you,— the show. now i don't know about yoa, lal— the show. now i don't know about yoa, lal r— the show. now i don't know about yoa, lal r only— the show. now i don't know about you, but i only wanted— now i don't know about you, but i only wanted two lnlngs— you, but i only wanted two lnlngs lron— you, but i only wanted two things from king charles to keep his things from king charles to keep as nose— things from king charles to keep as oar— things from king charles to keep his nose out of— things from king charles to keep his nose out of politics to and slop— his nose out of politics to and slop langlng— his nose out of politics to and slop langlng on— his nose out of politics to and stop banging on about climate enange— stop banging on about climate enange ale— stop banging on about climate change like greta— stop banging on about climate change like greta thunberg in a well— change like greta thunberg in a crown. well, this— change like greta thunberg in a crown. well, this week he lallel— crown. well, this week he failed. spectac- crown. well, this week he failed. spectac clearly at both wnen— failed. spectac clearly at both wnen ne— failed. spectac clearly at both when he appeared with london rlayor— when he appeared with london mayor-alan— when he appeared with london mayor-khan to- when he appeared with london mayor khan to launch mayor sadiq khan to launch a ellnale— mayor sadiq khan to launch a climate clock— mayor sadiq khan to launch a climate clock which looks at me to climate clock which looks at me lo ne— climate clock which looks at me lo me a— climate clock which looks at me lo me a lol— climate clock which looks at me to me a lot like— climate clock which looks at me to me a lot like a— climate clock which looks at me to me a lot like a countdown to lrnagellon— to me a lot like a countdown to arnagellon .— to me a lot like a countdown to armageddon . so— to me a lot like a countdown to armageddon . so tonight i'm armageddon. so tonight i'm asllng— armageddon. so tonight i'm asllng lne— armageddon. so tonight i'm asllng lne llg— armageddon. so tonight i'm asking the big question should snaz— asking the big question should cnaz lall— asking the big question should chaz butt out— asking the big question should chaz butt out of— asking the big question should chaz butt out of politics in any ways— chaz butt out of politics in any wayl any— chaz butt out of politics in any way? why should— chaz butt out of politics in any way? why should we even listen to way? why should we even listen lo nls— way? why should we even listen to his doomsday— way? why should we even listen to his doomsday warnings? well, join to his doomsday warnings? well, loln ne— to his doomsday warnings? well, loln me now— to his doomsday warnings? well, loln ne lo— to his doomsday warnings? well, join me now to talk about the llng-s— join me now to talk about the king's responsibilities and the nonareny— king's responsibilities and the nonareny as— king's responsibilities and the monarchy as royal commentator , monarchy as royal commentator, the monarchy as royal commentator, lne legenlary— monarchy as royal commentator, the legendary michael cole . the legendary michael cole. rllenael— the legendary michael cole. michael, it's— the legendary michael cole. michael, it's always a pleasure to michael, it's always a pleasure lo see— michael, it's always a pleasure lo yoar— michael, it's always a pleasure to see your face,— michael, it's always a pleasure to see your face, a— michael, it's always a pleasure to see your face, a face i grew up to see your face, a face i grew ap wlln— to see your face, a face i grew ap all as— to see your face, a face i grew ap all as a— to see your face, a face i grew ap all as a loy— to see your face, a face i grew up with as a boy, i've worshipped- up with as a boy, i've worshipped your voice for many years— worshipped your voice for many years-we— worshipped your voice for many years-we slan— worshipped your voice for many years. we start with the years. can we start with the lasles— years. can we start with the lasles l— years. can we start with the basics ? what— years. can we start with the basics ? what the years. can we start with the- basics ? what-the actual basics? what what is the actual proloeol— basics? what what is the actual proloeol ln— basics? what what is the actual protocol in royalty— basics? what what is the actual protocol in royalty getting lnwolwel— protocol in royalty getting involved in— protocol in royalty getting involved in domestic british pollllesl — involved in domestic british politics? well,— involved in domestic british politics? lr�*liliee g: involved in domestic british politics? g: g politics? well, good evening, martin. thank you for that very kind and generous introduction.

you'd be the first person to agree with me that every important question is at root political. and if you delve a little bit deeper it, then becomes theological. so anything that the king says and does is open to being parsed out politically. the position is quite clear that in fact he doesn't need to do anything because he has something that you and i don't have. he has the royal prerogative live. and what is the royal prerogative or the royal prerogative is the right his right to be informed by the government of the day through the prime minister to be informed , to be able to informed, to be able to encourage courage and also important to be able to warn an the king is able to exercise that unique right at the tuesday night meeting when the prime minister to use the correct

term, has an order once of the monarch. so the king can say what he wants to say politically in the complete privacy of his study or any other room at buckingham palace or wherever near to the prime minister of the day . now, the important the day. now, the important thing about all of this is that he was asked before he became king whether he would continue to lobby and write letters to ministers and make speeches after he succeeded, his mother . after he succeeded, his mother. and he said of course not. he said, i'm not that stupid. and he isn't that stupid. and he should be well advised. and you're quite right, he should be well advised by his courtiers to keep his nose out of party politics. there is no need for him to do so at and if he was very unwise wise, he would do it. and i don't think he is, as he said, not that stupid. it would be the wrong thing to do.

it would be against our famously unwritten constitution . and it's unwritten constitution. and it's unhelpful. now, unwritten constitution. and it's unhelpful . now, michael, there unhelpful. now, michael, there nave— unhelpful. now, michael, there nave leen— unhelpful. now, michael, there have been incidents— e. " now, michael, there have been incidents before of royals— have been incidents before of royals gellng— have been incidents before of royals getting involved in polls.— royals getting involved in politics. meghan markle, of course, encouraged people in lnerlea— course, encouraged people in america democrat. prince america to vote democrat. prince wllllan — america to vote democrat. prince wllllan aslel— america to vote democrat. prince william asked welsh sheep larrners— william asked welsh sheep larrners ll— william asked welsh sheep farmers if they— william asked welsh sheep farmers if they were concerned aloal— farmers if they were concerned aloal areal,— farmers if they were concerned about brexit, and— farmers if they were concerned about brexit, and even the queen nersell— about brexit, and even the queen nersell ln— about brexit, and even the queen herself in 2003— about brexit, and even the queen herself in 2003 encouraged people— herself in 2003 encouraged people lo— herself in 2003 encouraged people to vote.— herself in 2003 encouraged people to vote. but there's sonelnlng— people to vote. but there's something different. i think, aloal— something different. i think, aloal lnls— something different. i think, about this incident. michael and lnal— about this incident. michael and an ls— about this incident. michael and an ls we— about this incident. michael and an ls we are— about this incident. michael and that is we are in— about this incident. michael and that is we are in a— about this incident. michael and that is we are in a real live eleeloral— that is we are in a real live electoral cycle. _ that is we are in a real live electoral cycle. the london nayorally— electoral cycle. the london nayorally ls— electoral cycle. the london mayoralty is coming up in less lnan— mayoralty is coming up in less lnan len— mayoralty is coming up in less than ten months. _ mayoralty is coming up in less than ten months. sadiq khan is slanllng— than ten months. sadiq khan is slanllng as— than ten months. sadiq khan is slanllng as a— than ten months. sadiq khan is standing as a candidate. climate enange— standing as a candidate. climate enange ls— standing as a candidate. climate change is central— standing as a candidate. climate change is central his change is central to his laxallon— change is central to his taxation change taxation policy. climate change is taxation policy. climate change ls pare— taxation policy. climate change is pure politics. _ taxation policy. climate change is pure politics. do you think on an— is pure politics. do you think on this incident— is pure politics. do you think on this incident that prince llng— on this incident that prince llng cnarles— on this incident that prince king charles has overstepped the mall— king charles has overstepped the mall anal-s— king charles has overstepped the mark? that's an— king charles has overstepped the mark? that's an excellent point. i mark? that's an excellent point. r woall— mark? that's an excellent point. r woall lasl— mark? that's an excellent point. r woall just say— mark? that's an excellent point. i would just say that— mark? that's an excellent point. i would just say that i— mark? that's an excellent point. i would just say that i think- i would just say that i think probably meghan markle is probably meghan markle is probably a semi—detached member of the royal family at the california branch at the moment. now, you and i, because we've been taking note since we were

quite small children , and you've quite small children, and you've just demonstrated that in your intro. we know what the king's position is on climate change. it's been well advertised over many years and of course he sees himself as a pioneer, a voice in the wilderness. when he was starting to talk about this. and a lot of people believe him and a lot of people believe him and a lot of people believe him and a lot of people share his view and some don't. and there are some very distinguished people who do believe that climate change and the concern about it is all a put up job, a got up job. so he should keep out of it. he should be very careful, particularly in election times, because broadcasters and you're a very important one, we are all governed by the representation of the people's act, the rpa. so whenever we are in an election mode and we have to watch very, very carefully that what we say on the air is not is impartial and cannot be misconstrued . now, and cannot be misconstrued. now, i'm pretty sure that the men who

surround the king at buckingham palace will be giving him pretty good lectures about this . he good lectures about this. he shouldn't need them because he's taken the example of his mother and the instances of the family getting in. politics are few and they usually unhappy . okay, they usually unhappy. okay, michael, we're going- they usually unhappy. okay, michael, we're going to- e. okay, michael, we're going to have to leave— michael, we're going to have to leave ll— michael, we're going to have to leave it there. _ michael, we're going to have to leave it there. prince charles 90t— leave it there. prince charles gol a— leave it there. prince charles gol a very— leave it there. prince charles gol a very llg— leave it there. prince charles got a very big pair of ears. so i got a very big pair of ears. so r lnlnl— got a very big pair of ears. so r lnlnl r— got a very big pair of ears. so i think i think— got a very big pair of ears. so i think i think you're right. soneloly— i think i think you're right. somebody has— i think i think you're right. somebody has have a word in somebody has to have a word in ol— somebody has to have a word in ol wen.— somebody has to have a word in one of them. thank— somebody has to have a word in one of them. thank you for your llne. —al— one of them. thank you for your time. _at charles'si time. now looking at charles's osesslron— time. now looking at charles's obsession climate, i'm now obsession with climate, i'm now lolnel— obsession with climate, i'm now lolnel ly— obsession with climate, i'm now joined by meteorologist and aalnor—or- joined by meteorologist and author—or not. joined by meteorologist andi author—or not jim author of whether or not jim aale. — author of whether or not jim aale. -yoa- author of whether or not jim aale. -yoa, an.- dale. hello to you, jim. so yoae— dale. hello to you, jim. so you're-doomsteri dale. hello to you, jim. so- you're-doomster you you're a climate doomster you nasl— you're a climate doomster you nasl-lnls- you're a climate doomster you must-this climate. must be loving this climate enange— must be loving this climate change business. change clock business. i mean, an— change clock business. i mean, this-basically— change clock business. i mean, this basically another this is basically another countdown— this is basically another countdown armageddon . greta countdown to armageddon. greta lnanlerg— countdown to armageddon. greta lnanlerg-lnal— countdown to armageddon. greta thunberg-that the- countdown to armageddon. greta thunberg that the world thunberg told us that the world woall— thunberg told us that the world woall cease— thunberg told us that the world would cease to— thunberg told us that the world would cease to exist on june the zrsl— would cease to exist on june the zrsl lnls— would cease to exist on june the zrsl lnls year. — would cease to exist on june the 21st this year. that— would cease to exist on june the 21st this year. that didn't nappen. — 21st this year. that didn't nappen. wow— 21st this year. that didn't happen. now prince charles is saylng— happen. now prince charles is saylng-slx— happen. now prince charles is saylng-slx years- happen. now prince charles is saying six years and 24 saying it's six years and 24 lays. — saying it's six years and 24 lays. llng-s— saying it's six years and 24 days. king's charles obe pardon, six days. king's charles obe pardon, slx years— days. king's charles obe pardon, slo years anl— days. king's charles obe pardon, six years and 24— days. king's charles obe pardon, six years and 24 days until the loonslay— six years and 24 days until the loonslay .— six years and 24 days until the poonslay . ao— six years and 24 days until the doomsday . do you six years and 24 days until the doomsday. do you think six years and 24 days until the doomsday . do you think people doomsday. do you think people like doomsday. do you think people llle lne— doomsday. do you think people llle lne llng— doomsday. do you think people like the king coming out with lnlsl— like the king coming out with lnlslllalls— like the king coming out with this?.falls on— like the king coming out with this? falls on deaf ears. this? it falls on deaf ears.

lney-re — this? it falls on deaf ears. they're multi—millionaires lang— they're multi—millionaires llang ln— they're multi—millionaires living in castles. why should orllnary— living in castles. why should orllnary people— living in castles. why should ordinary people listen to their lnelr— ordinary people listen to their lnelr loon — ordinary people listen to their their doom laden— ordinary people listen to their their doom laden messages ? a: their doom laden messages? good ewenlng— their doom laden messages? good ewenlng. marla.— their doom laden messages? good evening, martin. i'm— their doom laden messages? good evening, martin. i'm not a doomster. i'm a realist. but as far as the climate is concerned, i've been working with it for 40 odd years just to talk about the greene king, king charles by myself as the greene king. but having said that, look, let's make something straight, even without the political side of this, think we all know not as this, i think we all know not as a but as a prince. and for a king, but as a prince. and for many, many years , king charles, many, many years, king charles, as he is now, has had a passion for the environment and climate . and long before climate change was was possibly an issue. so really , it's the other way really, it's the other way around . the politics has come around. the politics has come late and king charles, prince charles, as was , um, was was charles, as was, um, was was well into this at the very beginning and understood it. and he does have a real concern with the climate he's on side with that. as far as most people are concerned, the vast majority

motty and therefore he's he's not necessarily shouting it from the rooftops, but showing that that genuine concern, if you if we were having regard for the clock, i'm not sure that's necessarily the greatest idea for the thunberg clock i think was was something of a of a mystery that i'm not even sure that was correct. it's been reported wrongly. but look, clocks , they have a knack of clocks, they have a knack of either being too slow, too fast or not working at all. and i'm a firm believer that actually climate change is moving a lot faster than that particular clock will actually work and go forward. i think the six and a half years he's got on that one, i'm not sure it's right one. i'm not sure it's the right one. well , you i'm not sure it's the right one. well, you think six and a half years— well, you think six and a half years ls— well, you think six and a half years ls very— well, you think six and a half years is very conservative from we— years is very conservative from we llng-s— years is very conservative from we llng-s polar— years is very conservative from the king's point of— years is very conservative from the king's point of view. what you— the king's point of view. what yoa lnlnl— the king's point of view. what yoa man we— the king's point of view. what you think the world's going to enl— you think the world's going to enl lelore— you think the world's going to end before that? a , end before that? it's not a case of the world ending. and it's you know, this is this is the doomsday sort of scenario that you're putting across. martin it's from it's not it's not coming from from the side. it's from the climate side. it's coming the denier side , coming from the denier side,

talking about doomsday and all the rest of it is not that it doesn't climate change doesn't mean world per mean the end of the world per se. it will come in terms of in terms of catastrophes in one way, you know , some parts of the way, you know, some parts of the climate change will be a bonus. it will be a complete and utter mixture. but look, we're speaking on a day where i think when the when it's actually confirmed that britain has just had its hottest june, june ever since records began, 150 years ago. and it will be followed not just by britain, but but by many other countries that have been that have been seeing and regions that have been seeing massively hot temperatures in the month of june. that's without el nino kicking in at this moment in time. the antarctic sheet has reached antarctic ice sheet has reached an all time low. this is the sea ice i'm talking about. and sea temperatures around our shores in the atlantic and certain parts of the pacific. five, six degrees above what they should be. okay, jim dale , thank you as be. okay, jim dale, thank you as lor— be. okay, jim dale, thank you as ever for a balanced— okay, jim dale, thank you as ever for a balanced view. i lon-l— ever for a balanced view. i

an know— ever for a balanced view. i don't know about you viewers out nag,— don't know about you viewers out nag, lal— don't know about you viewers out there, but since— don't know about you viewers out there, but since i— don't know about you viewers out there, but since i was knee high there, but since i was knee hiin to there, but since i was knee high lolgrassnoppen— there, but since i was knee high to grasshopper, been told to a grasshopper, i've been told the to a grasshopper, i've been told lne-ls— to a grasshopper, i've been told lne-ls golng— to a grasshopper, i've been told lne-ls golng lo— to a grasshopper, i've been told the is going to end. it the earth is going to end. it lne— the earth is going to end. it was the ozone— the earth is going to end. it was the ozone layer. when i was a loy— was the ozone layer. when i was a low-loll— was the ozone layer. when i was a low-loll ll— was the ozone layer. when i was a boy,-told it was- was the ozone layer. when i was a boy, told it was going a boy, i was told it was going to a boy, i was told it was going lo le— a boy, i was told it was going lo be an— a boy, i was told it was going lo be an lee— a boy, i was told it was going to be an ice age.— a boy, i was told it was going to be an ice age. then we're all going— to be an ice age. then we're all golng lo— to be an ice age. then we're all golng lo-lnl— to be an ice age. then we're all going to-and now- to be an ice age. then we're all going to and now even jim going to burn. and now even jim saylng— going to burn. and now even jim saylnegears— going to burn. and now even jim saylng-years anl— going to burn. and now even jim saying years and days is saying six years and 24 days is loo— saying six years and 24 days is loo long— saying six years and 24 days is loo long wlln— saying six years and 24 days is too long with the— saying six years and 24 days is too long with the king of ellnale— too long with the king of climate-will- too long with the king of- climate _willitowards climate change, will us towards loom.— climate change, will us towards doom._pridemonthl climate change, will us towards doom. pridemonth is doom. okay, next pridemonth is llnally— doom. okay, next pridemonth is llnally-wno— doom. okay, next pridemonth is finally who vomited finally over. but who vomited ralnlows— finally over. but who vomited rainbows onto— finally over. but who vomited rainbows onto the most pointless lranllng— rainbows onto the most pointless branding-month?— rainbows onto the most pointless branding month? coming up, branding this month? coming up, the branding this month? coming up, we llggesl— branding this month? coming up, we llggesl pale— branding this month? coming up, the biggest pride plonker the llnals— the biggest pride plonker the llnals. loa— the biggest pride plonker the finals. you don't— the biggest pride plonker the finals. you don't want to miss me— finals. you don't want to miss lne resalls. — finals. you don't want to miss the results. we're— finals. you don't want to miss the results. we're back . in the results. we're back. in lnree— the results. we're back. in lnree on— the results. we're back. in three on mark— the results. we're back. in three on mark dolan tonight in my big— three on mark dolan tonight in my llg oplnlon— three on mark dolan tonight in my llg oplnlon. — three on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion. .�*l�*il�*g �*7 ” my big opinion. my first on air reaction to nigel farage having his bank account shut down. britain is now facing an all out war on free speech in my take, a ten bbc star, gary lineker, has called for renationalisation of water. i'll be dealing with this millionaire socialist in no uncertain terms. also a is net zero an expensive waste of time . i'll be asking climate sceptic and international bestselling author bjorn lomborg. plus my

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nine | mine. welcome alne- iwelcome back. alne— iwelcome back. well nine welcome back. well it's been a long hot - welcome back. well it's been a long nol-nonln— - welcome back. well it's been a long hot-month-we've- long hot pride month and we've llnally— long hot pride month and we've finally_towards| finally limping our way towards the finally limping our way towards lne—llags- finally limping our way towards lne—llags wllli the end, the rainbow flags will be the end, the rainbow flags will le-away— the end, the rainbow flags will le-away lor— the end, the rainbow flags will. be-away for-year be packed away for another year anl— be packed away for another year and corporations— be packed away for another year and corporations go back to and corporations can go back to not and corporations can go back to nol-a— and corporations can go back to nol-a llylng— and corporations can go back to nol-a llylng llg- and corporations can go back to not a flying fig about not giving a flying fig about yoar— not giving a flying fig about your sexuality— not giving a flying fig about your sexuality .— not giving a flying fig about your sexuality . well, it's been your sexuality. well, it's been aanlage— your sexuality. well, it's been aanlage year— your sexuality. well, it's been a vintage year for— your sexuality. well, it's been a vintage year for lgbtq+ virtue slgnalllng— a vintage year for lgbtq+ virtue slgnalllng anl— a vintage year for lgbtq+ virtue signalling and not— a vintage year for lgbtq+ virtue signalling and not just putting up signalling and not just putting ap sone— signalling and not just putting ap lally— signalling and not just putting up some tatty flags in a charity slop— up some tatty flags in a charity snop wlnlow— up some tatty flags in a charity shop window. i'm— up some tatty flags in a charity shop window. i'm talking about the shop window. i'm talking about we lall— shop window. i'm talking about we lall leep— shop window. i'm talking about the full deep throated let's allenale— the full deep throated let's alienate 98%_ the full deep throated let's alienate 98% of our consumer lase— alienate 98% of our consumer lase ly— alienate 98% of our consumer base by appearing inclusive. so lets— base by appearing inclusive. so lets look— base by appearing inclusive. so lets lool al— base by appearing inclusive. so let's look at rainbow hued, look at let's look at rainbow hued, look al sone— let's look at rainbow hued, look al ol— let's look at rainbow hued, look at some of the— let's look at rainbow hued, look at some of the prize and pride llonlers— at some of the prize and pride llonlers .— at some of the prize and pride plonkers . but— at some of the prize and pride plonkers . but what was it with plonkers. but what was it with diy plonkers. but what was it with all snops— plonkers. but what was it with raw snops anl— plonkers. but what was it with diy shops and pride this year?

they— diy shops and pride this year? rney weal— diy shops and pride this year? they went full— diy shops and pride this year? they went full village people on us they went full village people on as lelng— they went full village people on as lelng o— they went full village people on us being q went— they went full village people on us being q went full trans. rlayle— us being q went full trans. rlayle lney— us being q went full trans. maybe they should be rename and loll— maybe they should be rename and loll anl— maybe they should be rename and loll anl g— maybe they should be rename and loll anl g l— maybe they should be rename and lgbt and q b and— maybe they should be rename and lgbt and q b and q— maybe they should be rename and lgbt and q b and q even screwfix got lgbt and q b and q even screwfix gol ln— lgbt and q b and q even screwfix gol ln on— lgbt and q b and q even screwfix gol ln on lne— lgbt and q b and q even screwfix got in on the game.— lgbt and q b and q even screwfix got in on the game. screwfix sllel— got in on the game. screwfix sllel lo— got in on the game. screwfix sllel lo lne— got in on the game. screwfix stick to the screwing boys, but the stick to the screwing boys, but we nosl— stick to the screwing boys, but the most ridiculous brand was win_ the most ridiculous brand was all wnose— the most ridiculous brand was wix, whose ceo— the most ridiculous brand was wix, whose ceo ,_ the most ridiculous brand was wix, whose ceo , fraser longdon wix, whose ceo, fraser longdon sall— wix, whose ceo, fraser longdon sall llgolel— wix, whose ceo, fraser longdon said bigoted shoppers concerned aloal— said bigoted shoppers concerned aloal lrans— said bigoted shoppers concerned about trans rights— said bigoted shoppers concerned about trans rights were not ewloe— about trans rights were not ewloe ln— about trans rights were not welcome in his— about trans rights were not welcome in his stores, which resallel— welcome in his stores, which resallel ln— welcome in his stores, which resulted in a— welcome in his stores, which resulted in a full— welcome in his stores, which resulted in a full blown cancellation. - resulted in a full blown cancellation. well done , cancellation. well done, consumers next, let's move on to pape— consumers next, let's move on to pnze plonk— consumers next, let's move on to prize plonk politicians. well, joe prize plonk politicians. well, roe larlen— prize plonk politicians. well, joe biden banged on about pride all nonln— joe biden banged on about pride all nonln .— joe biden banged on about pride all month , but— joe biden banged on about pride all month , but then he read all month, but then he read anylnlng— all month, but then he read anything that's— all month, but then he read anything that's put on autocue in anything that's put on autocue ln lronl— anything that's put on autocue ln lronl ol— anything that's put on autocue in front of him.— anything that's put on autocue in front of him. canada's justin lraleaa— in front of him. canada's justin lraleaa look— in front of him. canada's justin trudeau took time— in front of him. canada's justin trudeau took time out in prague. of trudeau took time out in prague. ol oase— trudeau took time out in prague. ol .— trudeau took time out in prague. ol , lo— trudeau took time out in prague. of course , to visit— trudeau took time out in prague. of course , to visit rainbow of course, to visit rainbow slreel— of course, to visit rainbow slreel anl — of course, to visit rainbow street and virtue signal about his involvement— street and virtue signal about his involvement with pride . but his involvement with pride. but yoar— his involvement with pride. but yoar pale— his involvement with pride. but your pride plonker the winner is lonlon-s— your pride plonker the winner is lonlon-s sallg— your pride plonker the winner is london's sadiq khan. he not only laansnel— london's sadiq khan. he not only launched launched— london's sadiq khan. he not only launched launched pride buses and launched launched pride buses anl lralns— launched launched pride buses anl lralns .— launched launched pride buses and trains , he's— launched launched pride buses and trains , he's all aboard the and trains, he's all aboard the lrans— and trains, he's all aboard the lrans lran— and trains, he's all aboard the lrans lraln .— and trains, he's all aboard the trans train , but— and trains, he's all aboard the trans train , but also a series trans train, but also a series of commemorative pride plaques.

all asoss— of commemorative pride plaques. all lne— of commemorative pride plaques. all across the capital, all at lne— all across the capital, all at we laopayer-s— all across the capital, all at the taxpayer's expense as well. no the taxpayer's expense as well. as loall— the taxpayer's expense as well. as loall yoar— the taxpayer's expense as well. no doubt your delighted about pg,— no doubt your delighted about was lal— no doubt your delighted about was lal we— no doubt your delighted about that, but we aren't . anyway, that, but we aren't. anyway, rye— that, but we aren't. anyway, be an— that, but we aren't. anyway, r-we sal— that, but we aren't. anyway, i've run out of— that, but we aren't. anyway, i've run out of time now handing slralgnl— i've run out of time now handing slralgnl oer— i've run out of time now handing straight over to— i've run out of time now handing straight over to mark dolan. rere— straight over to mark dolan. aere ne— straight over to mark dolan. here as ls— straight over to mark dolan. here as ls .— straight over to mark dolan. here he is. he's— straight over to mark dolan. here he is. he's the king. stick wln— here he is. he's the king. stick an arm— here he is. he's the king. stick all an . — here he is. he's the king. stick with him . great— here he is. he's the king. stick with him . great job.- here he is. he's the king. stick with him . cilirela .lr�*~ll.rel”a " with him. great job. martin loved the show. we've got a busy two hours coming up. my reaction to is cancellation to nigel farage is cancellation by his bank. there is now a war on free speech. also, can a biological man ever be called a mother ? and gary lineker wants mother? and gary lineker wants to nationalise water. are you going to pay for it, gary? mark dolan tonight, my big opinion is on its way. evening. i'm alex lealln— on its way. evening. i'm alex lealln. lnls— on its way. evening. i'm alex deakin. this is— on its way. evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your- evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest wealner— deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met olllse— weather update from the met elllse lor— weather update from the met office for gb— weather update from the met office for gb news bright and breezy— office for gb news bright and lreezy llnl— office for gb news bright and breezy kind of— office for gb news bright and breezy kind of sums up the weelenl— breezy kind of sums up the weelenl as— breezy kind of sums up the weekend as many places are a lot lrlgnler— weekend as many places are a lot lrlgnler-lolay.— weekend as many places are a lot brighter-today. but- weekend as many places are a lot brighter today. but there brighter than today. but there all— brighter than today. but there wlll le— brighter than today. but there will be some— brighter than today. but there will be some around, but will be some showers around, but nosl— will be some showers around, but nosl-wlll— will be some showers around, but nosl-wlll le— will be some showers around, but nosl-wlll le lly- will be some showers around, but most-will be dry for- will be some showers around, but most will be dry for much most places will be dry for much of most places will be dry for much ol lne— most places will be dry for much of the weekend. _ most places will be dry for much of the weekend. some windy sonllllons— of the weekend. some windy. conditions _to conditions coming in thanks to lnls— conditions coming in thanks to lnls-low— conditions coming in thanks to this-low pressure.- conditions coming in thanks to this low pressure. the this area of low pressure. the lsolars— this area of low pressure. the isobars squeezing together light wlnls— isobars squeezing together light winds initially— isobars squeezing together light winds initially over northern ssollanl—

winds initially over northern scotland, but— winds initially over northern scotland, but that's where the wlnls— scotland, but that's where the wlnls-really— scotland, but that's where the winds-really pick- scotland, but that's where the winds really pick up during winds will really pick up during tomorrow evening. to this tomorrow evening. back to this ewenlng— tomorrow evening. back to this ewenlng galle— tomorrow evening. back to this ewenlng galle a— tomorrow evening. back to this evening quite a lot rain evening quite a lot of rain aroanl— evening quite a lot of rain around today— evening quite a lot of rain around today .— evening quite a lot of rain around today . that is all around today. that is all lenllng— around today. that is all lenllng lo— around today. that is all tending to scoot out into the aoan— tending to scoot out into the loan sea— tending to scoot out into the north sea, but— tending to scoot out into the north sea, but still for most, as— north sea, but still for most, as a— north sea, but still for most, as a sloaly— north sea, but still for most, it's a cloudy night, dank, lrlzzly— it's a cloudy night, dank, drizzly nights— it's a cloudy night, dank, drizzly nights ,- it's a cloudy night, dank, drizzly nights , rain and drizzle drizzly nights, rain and drizzle on anl— drizzly nights, rain and drizzle on anl oll— drizzly nights, rain and drizzle on and off and— drizzly nights, rain and drizzle on and off and a— drizzly nights, rain and drizzle on and off and a fairly warm nlgnl— on and off and a fairly warm nlgnl as— on and off and a fairly warm night as well. _ on and off and a fairly warm night as well. again, temperatures not dropping below 15 temperatures not dropping below rs or— temperatures not dropping below rs or re— temperatures not dropping below rs or re ln— temperatures not dropping below rs or re ln lne— temperatures not dropping below 15 or 16 in the east. so it won-l— 15 or 16 in the east. so it won-l le— 15 or 16 in the east. so it won-l le a— 15 or 16 in the east. so it won't be a particularly cold slan— won't be a particularly cold slarl lo— won't be a particularly cold slarl lo lne— won't be a particularly cold start to the weekend. it will be galle— start to the weekend. it will be galle a— start to the weekend. it will be galle a grey— start to the weekend. it will be galle a grey slan— start to the weekend. it will be quite a grey start to the weelenl— quite a grey start to the weekend. some rain and drizzle nee— weekend. some rain and drizzle nere anl— weekend. some rain and drizzle here and there,— weekend. some rain and drizzle here and there, a— weekend. some rain and drizzle here and there, a few light nsowes— here and there, a few light showers early— here and there, a few light showers early on, but that snoall — showers early on, but that should tend— showers early on, but that should tend to— showers early on, but that should tend to ease away and the slles— should tend to ease away and the slles snoall— should tend to ease away and the skies should tend— should tend to ease away and the skies should tend to brighten. i llnl— skies should tend to brighten. i lnlnl nosl— skies should tend to brighten. i think most of— skies should tend to brighten. i think most of.will- skies should tend to brighten. i think most of will see some think most of us will see some sanny—lnere- think most of us will see somei sunny—there will sunny spells by now. there will be sunny spells by now. there will le—lne- sunny spells by now. there will le—lne lar- be sunny spells in the far nonnwesl— be sunny spells in the far northwest, but— be sunny spells in the far northwest, but there will also be lols— northwest, but there will also be lols ol— northwest, but there will also be lots of showers here. quite a wel— be lots of showers here. quite a wel lay— be lots of showers here. quite a wel lay lnroagn— be lots of showers here. quite a wet day through-of- wet day through parts of snellanl— shetland especially, and a llaslery— shetland especially, and a blustery wind— shetland especially, and a blustery wind picking up in the noll—wesl— blustery wind picking up in the north—west.-just- blustery wind picking up in the north—west. just a bit north—west. elsewhere just a bit breezy,— north—west. elsewhere just a bit breezy,-sunshine- breezy, some sunshine and lenperalares— breezy, some sunshine and temperatures average . temperatures around average. llgn— temperatures around average. llgn leens— temperatures around average. high teens across the north, low pol.— high teens across the north, low 20s larlner— high teens across the north, low 20s, further south,— high teens across the north, low 20s, further south, maybe a lllle— 20s, further south, maybe a little warmer— 20s, further south, maybe a little warmer across the south—east. _ little warmer across the south—east. 24 is possible . a south—east. 24 is possible. a lreezy— south—east. 24 is possible. a breezy saturday— south—east. 24 is possible. a breezy saturday evening, then the breezy saturday evening, then

lne wlnl— breezy saturday evening, then the wind strengthening further over northern— the wind strengthening further over northern scotland getting really— over northern scotland getting really gale— over northern scotland getting really quite gusty here, aslaally— really quite gusty here, actually. and - really quite gusty here, actually. and that continues lalo— actually. and that continues lnlo sanlay.— actually. and that continues into sunday. so— actually. and that continues into sunday. so a blustery sanlay— into sunday. so a blustery sunday across— into sunday. so a blustery sunday across scotland. small nsowes— sunday across scotland. small nsowes lo— sunday across scotland. small showers to come— sunday across scotland. small showers to come in the nonnwesl— showers to come in the northwest, but much of eastern ssollanl— northwest, but much of eastern scotland likely— northwest, but much of eastern scotland likely to _ northwest, but much of eastern scotland likely to stay dry. a lew— scotland likely to stay dry. a few showers— scotland likely to stay dry. a few showers on— scotland likely to stay dry. a few showers on sunday will whiz lnroagn— few showers on sunday will whiz through northern— few showers on sunday will whiz through northern ireland, south of through northern ireland, south ol ssollanl— through northern ireland, south ol ssollanl .— through northern ireland, south of scotland , perhaps 1 or 2 in of scotland, perhaps 1 or 2 in norll—wesl— of scotland, perhaps 1 or 2 in north—west england. but again, nasn—wales- north—west england. but again, much _wales and l much of england, wales and lnleel— much of england, wales and indeed eastern— much of england, wales and indeed eastern scotland, likely to indeed eastern scotland, likely lo slay— indeed eastern scotland, likely lo slay lly— indeed eastern scotland, likely to stay dry, bright and breezy wln— to stay dry, bright and breezy with temperatures around about age pernaps— with temperatures around about average, perhaps a little below anl— average, perhaps a little below anl leellng— average, perhaps a little below and feeling cooler with the gusty— and feeling cooler with the gasly wlnls— and feeling cooler with the gusty winds across scotland . but gusty winds across scotland. but larlner— gusty winds across scotland. but larlner soaln— gusty winds across scotland. but further south, we— gusty winds across scotland. but further south, we will again see lenperalares— further south, we will again see temperatures getting into the low zes— temperatures getting into the low 20s lnloy— temperatures getting into the low 20s. enjoy your week .

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