awards. good awards. - l good evening, awards. — i good evening, fellow travellers. _ good evening, fellow travellers. welcome along to neu— travellers. welcome along to neil ouver— travellers. welcome along to neil oliver live— travellers. welcome along to neil oliver live on gb news tv and— neil oliver live on gb news tv and on— neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio.— neil oliver live on gb news tv and on radio. coming up on the show— and on radio. coming up on the show this— and on radio. coming up on the show this evening,— and on radio. coming up on the show this evening, i'll be joined— show this evening, i'll be joined by— show this evening, i'll be joined by ralph schollhammer to talk about— joined by ralph schollhammer to talk about the _ joined by ralph schollhammer to talk about the current situation in europe— talk about the current situation in europe ano— talk about the current situation in europe and discussing how government— in europe and discussing how governments there are land grabbing.— governments there are land grabbing. we'll— governments there are land grabbing. we'll also be talking to or. — grabbing. we'll also be talking to or. comm — grabbing. we'll also be talking to dr. calum miller about a new investigation— to dr. calum miller about a new investigation into— to dr. calum miller about a new investigation into claims autistic— investigation into claims autistic or— investigation into claims autistic or intellectually disabled— autistic or intellectually disabled people have been allowed— disabled people have been allowed oo— disabled people have been allowed to be— disabled people have been allowed to be euthanized in the netherlands— allowed to be euthanized in the netherlands and— allowed to be euthanized in the netherlands and we will also be joined— netherlands and we will also be joined by— netherlands and we will also be joined by snoney— netherlands and we will also be joined by snakey sue and her inner— joined by snakey sue and her inner ionde — joined by snakey sue and her rather large pet— joined by snakey sue and her rather large pet snake retsi to doin— rather large pet snake retsi to ioin diod— rather large pet snake retsi to talk about the _ rather large pet snake retsi to talk about the rising numbers of encoded— talk about the rising numbers of escaped snakes— talk about the rising numbers of escaped snakes in— talk about the rising numbers of escaped snakes in the uk. yes, you— escaped snakes in the uk. yes, you need— escaped snakes in the uk. yes, you need indi— escaped snakes in the uk. yes, you heard that right. all of indi— you heard that right. all of one nine— you heard that right. all of that plus plenty of chat with my iniiiiond— that plus plenty of chat with my brilliant, lovely— that plus plenty of chat with my brilliant, lovely panellist, joenine— brilliant, lovely panellist, jasmine birtles. but first, an nodde— jasmine birtles. but first, an nodoie on— jasmine birtles. but first, an nodoie on one— jasmine birtles. but first, an update on the latest news from ionionnon— update on the latest news from rhiannon jones— update on the latest news from rhiannon jones ._

update on the latest news from rhiannon jones. _ update on the latest news from rhiannon jones. update on the latest news from rhiannon jones . update on the latest news from rhiannon jones. mil c rhiannon jones. thank you, neil. your top stories from the newsroom . a funeral has been newsroom. a funeral has been held for the teenager who was shot dead by police on tuesday, sparking riots across france. the interior ministry has said that more than 1300 people were arrested overnight as violence continues to spread across the country. below beings and vehicles were torched and stores looted by protesters demanding justice for the 17 year old known as nahel m. the french president, emmanuel macron, has postponed a state visit to germany due to begin tomorrow because of the unrest. french reporter antonin andre says the recent riots have nothing to do with wanting justice. french people is more and- jg in; french people is more and more upset odoinei— people is more and more upset odoinei onio— people is more and more upset against this these— people is more and more upset against this these rioters and ind-e— against this these rioters and node o— against this these rioters and indie o joini— against this these rioters and that's a point which is good for innondei— that's a point which is good for emmanuel macron because everybody— emmanuel macron because everybody non— emmanuel macron because everybody now thinks it's enough . ide— everybody now thinks it's enough . iie nove— everybody now thinks it's enough . iie nove io— everybody now thinks it's enough . we have to stop—

everybody now thinks it's enough . we have to stop them. and onene— . we have to stop them. and onene io— . we have to stop them. and there is nothing— . we have to stop them. and there is nothing to do with jdedoe.— there is nothing to do with jneiiee. ide— there is nothing to do with justice. it's not— there is nothing to do with justice. it's not a question of jdeiioe.— justice. it's not a question of jneiioe. ide— justice. it's not a question of justice. it'sjust_ justice. it's not a question of justice. it's just to put chaos end— justice. it's just to put chaos and io— justice. it's just to put chaos and do end— justice. it's just to put chaos and to and to— justice. it's just to put chaos and to and to robbery and to dead— and to and to robbery and to eieoi noon— and to and to robbery and to steal upon based— and to and to robbery and to steal upon based upon a false ooiidooi— steal upon based upon a false political cause— steal upon based upon a false political cause . _ steal upon based upon a false political cause . aw c political cause. while british travellers are also being warned their movements could be restricted due to the protests. but travel experts simon calder believes it's still as safe for now. if believes it's still as safe for now . if it starts spreading believes it's still as safe for now. if it starts spreading, if it now. if it starts spreading, if i deio— now. if it starts spreading, if i deie in— now. if it starts spreading, if it gets in towards— if it starts spreading, if it gets in towards the tourist areas and bear— it gets in towards the tourist areas and bear in mind that none— areas and bear in mind that none is— areas and bear in mind that france is the— areas and bear in mind that france is the most popular connin— france is the most popular oooniny in— france is the most popular country in the— france is the most popular country in the world for incoming— country in the world for incoming tourists. so therefore, iodnien — incoming tourists. so therefore, iodnien io— incoming tourists. so therefore, tourism is essential for them. noi— tourism is essential for them. duo einiionio— tourism is essential for them. but similarly, you're in the niddie— but similarly, you're in the niddie oi— but similarly, you're in the middle of a— but similarly, you're in the middle of a beautiful city such as middle of a beautiful city such on none— middle of a beautiful city such on none .— middle of a beautiful city such on none . ii— middle of a beautiful city such as paris. if this— middle of a beautiful city such as paris. if this trouble starts oonind— as paris. if this trouble starts coming in— as paris. if this trouble starts coming in from _ as paris. if this trouble starts coming in from the suburbs, from the coming in from the suburbs, from one bonn-iodin— coming in from the suburbs, from the born.louis into— coming in from the suburbs, from the born.louis into the centre, ind— the born.louis into the centre, inoi oooid— the born.louis into the centre, that could signal— the born.louis into the centre, that could signal problems . ' ”in that could signal problems. a 46 year— that could signal problems. a 46 year did— that could signal problems. a 46 year did non— that could signal problems. a 46 year old man has— that could signal problems. a 46 year old man has been- that could signal problems. a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a teenager who has now been named by police as leonardo reid and a 23 year old man was stabbed to death in north london. the 15 year old boy was found with stab

wounds in islington on thursday. he was pronounced dead at the scene. the 23 year old died later at a west london hospital. a third victim was also found with stab wounds at an address in north london. his injuries aren't life threatening. that's an image of leonardo reid, the 15 year old boy . seven just stop 15 year old boy. seven just stop oil protests have been arrested for disrupting london's pride march. activists blocked the road and sprayed paint on a coca—cola truck, forcing the parade to stop for over 15 minutes. they were arrested for pubuc minutes. they were arrested for public nuisance offences. the group says they took action because pride works with industries complicit in worsening the climate crisis . as worsening the climate crisis. as meanwhile, three members of animal rising have scaled a large scaffold in the centre of a track in a bid to prevent a major greyhound racing event. the activists interrupted the derby final around noon, alleging it will protect the

dogs from harm on the track. the race is scheduled to take place at 9:15 this evening . jeremy at 9:15 this evening. jeremy clarkson's column about the duchess of sussex published in the sun, was found to be sexist by the press regulator. the former top gear star wrote that he dreamed of meghan markle being paraded naked through british towns and publicly shamed. more than 25,000 complaints were filed. the most ever received by the independent press standards organisation. ipso said the article was humiliating and degrading, but it rejected suggestions it was racist, inaccurate or harassed. the duchess . the senior the duchess. the senior detective who survived an attempted murder in northern ireland, was given a standing ovation at an awards ceremony last night. the kyiv inspector, john caldwell , dci john john caldwell, dci john caldwell, who received the

special recognition prize , special recognition prize, thanked his family for their support as he spoke publicly for the first time. the detective was seriously injured when he was seriously injured when he was shot by dissident republicans in omagh in february . he said he was sorry children had to witness the horrors of the attack. prime minister rishi sunak presented his award via video link describing dci caldwell as a true hero . it's caldwell as a true hero. it's a real pleasure to present- : it's a real pleasure to present the opinio— real pleasure to present the eninii oi— real pleasure to present the spirit of northern ireland sneoioi— spirit of northern ireland special recognition award this evening— special recognition award this evening io— special recognition award this evening to someone that i admire nodeiy— evening to someone that i admire nodeiy o— evening to someone that i admire hugely a policeman, a father , a hugely a policeman, a father, a ndeiond— hugely a policeman, a father, a ndeiond o— hugely a policeman, a father, a husband, a football coach, a man who:— husband, a football coach, a man nno, onen— husband, a football coach, a man nno, nnen nie— husband, a football coach, a man who, when his own— husband, a football coach, a man who, when his own life was in donden— who, when his own life was in donden woe— who, when his own life was in danger, was still— who, when his own life was in danger, was still thinking of odds— danger, was still thinking of ones . — danger, was still thinking of others . “cid: danger, was still thinking of others . jg others. households are being urged to take an energy metre reading today and time is running out as the new price cap comes into force. regulator ofgem says the average price people can be charged has fallen to just over £2,000. however bills are still much higher than

they were two years ago and iced coffee drinks from high street chains can contain excess really high amounts of sugar. which consumer company, which is finding many a sweet better than a mars bar or a can of coca—cola. it compared frappes and frappuccinos from starbucks , caffe nero and costa . and one , caffe nero and costa. and one of the unhealthiest options was a starbucks caramel frappuccino . you know, it contains 48.5g of sugan . you know, it contains 48.5g of sugar. that's equivalent to 12 teaspoons, which is nearly 20g more than the daily amount recommended by the nhs . as tv recommended by the nhs. as tv online, dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news. now it's back over to . back over to. neil

what are the back over to. neil- . what are the essentials back over to. neil— . what are the essentials of back over to. neil— - what are the essentials of life what are the essentials of life of your - what are the essentials of life of yoon ine— - what are the essentials of life of yoon iiie 7— - what are the essentials of life of your life .7 among— - what are the essentials of life of your life .7 among those- what are the essentials of life of your life .7 among those most of your life.7 among those most innononi— of your life.7 among those most innononilne— of your life.7 among those most inoononilne ,— of your life.7 among those most important me , those i would important to me, those i would not important to me, those i would noi niiiindiy— important to me, those i would not willingly live _ important to me, those i would not willingly live without our ioniiy. — not willingly live without our ioniiy. ine— not willingly live without our family. the right to protect inoi— family. the right to protect inoi nonin— family. the right to protect that family well as freedom that family as well as freedom non— that family as well as freedom from oppression,— that family as well as freedom from oppression, especially the oppneeeion— from oppression, especially the oppneeeion oi— from oppression, especially the oppression of the— from oppression, especially the oppression of the state. a ineedon— oppression of the state. a ineedon io— oppression of the state. a freedom to which i used to give next— freedom to which i used to give nexi io— freedom to which i used to give nexi do no— freedom to which i used to give next to no thought— freedom to which i used to give next to no thought at all, however, has— next to no thought at all, however, has now risen through the however, has now risen through one-io— however, has now risen through the-to become,- however, has now risen through the to become, me, the ranks to become, for me, onond— the ranks to become, for me, among-important. the ranks to become, for me, among important of the ranks to become, for me,- among-important of all among the most important of all ind— among the most important of all not ineedon — among the most important of all that freedom freedom to that freedom is the freedom to inoneooi— that freedom is the freedom to inoneooi ,— that freedom is the freedom to transact , which— that freedom is the freedom to transact, which is— that freedom is the freedom to transact, which is to buy and odd— transact, which is to buy and sell without— transact, which is to buy and sell without interference and eonoiiny— sell without interference and eonodny ,— sell without interference and scrutiny , without freedom to scrutiny, without freedom to connoi— scrutiny, without freedom to ooninoi on— scrutiny, without freedom to control our own— scrutiny, without freedom to control our own finances. we ond— control our own finances. we ond onio— control our own finances. we are, and this is— control our own finances. we are, and this is no exaggeration, effectively are, and this is no— exaggeration, effectively driven non— exaggeration, effectively driven inon society.— exaggeration, effectively driven from society. you— exaggeration, effectively driven from society. you might say that if we— from society. you might say that if we onnoi— from society. you might say that if we cannot buy— from society. you might say that if we cannot buy or— from society. you might say that if we cannot buy or sell on our own terms, that— if we cannot buy or sell on our own terms, that we— if we cannot buy or sell on our own terms, that we are transformed— own terms, that we are transformed into non—persons in onio— transformed into non—persons in one nnoendn— transformed into non—persons in this modern western world of , ine— this modern western world of ours , the freedom to transact is ours, the freedom to transact is bound— ours, the freedom to transact is bound on— ours, the freedom to transact is bound up inescapably with the noni— bound up inescapably with the non io— bound up inescapably with the non io nove— bound up inescapably with the right to have a— bound up inescapably with the right to have a bank account dennived— right to have a bank account deonived oi— right to have a bank account deprived of that— right to have a bank account deprived of that everyday, commonplace— deprived of that everyday, commonplace technicality . motty. commonplace technicality. motty. we commonplace technicality. motty. iie onnoi— commonplace technicality. motty. we cannot function— commonplace technicality. motty. we cannot function in the myriad ways— we cannot function in the myriad noye neeeeeony— we cannot function in the myriad ways necessary to _ we cannot function in the myriad ways necessary to maintain nnoendn— ways necessary to maintain modern existence without a bank oeooond ide— modern existence without a bank account. we cannot— modern existence without a bank account. we cannot receive a eoion— account. we cannot receive a eoiony .— account. we cannot receive a eoiony . ine— account. we cannot receive a salary . we cannot pay our bills.

salary. we cannot pay our bills. we salary. we cannot pay our bills. iie onnoi— salary. we cannot pay our bills. we cannot obtain— salary. we cannot pay our bills. we cannot obtain or service a nondode— we cannot obtain or service a nondode on— we cannot obtain or service a mortgage or lease a car. we eon-i— mortgage or lease a car. we eon-i ionnon— mortgage or lease a car. we can't borrow money in an ineneoeindiy— can't borrow money in an increasingly cashless society. we increasingly cashless society. iie eon-i— increasingly cashless society. we can't even— increasingly cashless society. we can't even buy a loaf of neod— we can't even buy a loaf of ineod. ine— we can't even buy a loaf of bread. the list— we can't even buy a loaf of bread. the list of- we can't even buy a loaf of bread. the list of impossibles or bread. the list of impossibles on next— bread. the list of impossibles on next io— bread. the list of impossibles or next to impossibles, born of no nonn— or next to impossibles, born of no bank account— or next to impossibles, born of no bank account is— or next to impossibles, born of no bank account is long to be denied— no bank account is long to be deonived oi— no bank account is long to be deprived of o— no bank account is long to be deprived of a bank account is to be deprived of a bank account is to ie one— deprived of a bank account is to ie one vicin— deprived of a bank account is to be the victim of— deprived of a bank account is to be the victim of social murder . be the victim of social murder. at be the victim of social murder. do one— be the victim of social murder. in one ven— be the victim of social murder. at the very least,— be the victim of social murder. at the very least, it is a nnoendn— at the very least, it is a nnoendn day— at the very least, it is a modern day equivalent of excommunication of exile. last ween— excommunication of exile. last ween ny— excommunication of exile. last week, my fellow— excommunication of exile. last week, my fellow gb news oneeenien— week, my fellow gb news presenter nigel farage revealed that presenter nigel farage revealed not one— presenter nigel farage revealed that the bank— presenter nigel farage revealed that the bank of— presenter nigel farage revealed that the bank of which he has been— that the bank of which he has been o— that the bank of which he has been a customer— that the bank of which he has been a customer for decades , has been a customer for decades, has ioid— been a customer for decades, has ioid nin— been a customer for decades, has ioid nin ide— been a customer for decades, has told him it's closing— been a customer for decades, has told him it's closing his accounts , that it wants nothing accounts, that it wants nothing io— accounts, that it wants nothing do do— accounts, that it wants nothing more to do with— accounts, that it wants nothing more to do with him. the same einioidne— more to do with him. the same stricture apparently been stricture has apparently been opened— stricture has apparently been oppiied noi— stricture has apparently been applied not only to nigel to applied not only to nigel but to some-ioniiy. — applied not only to nigel but to some family. believe it some of his family. believe it or some of his family. believe it on ieiieve— some of his family. believe it or believe it— some of his family. believe it or believe it not. _ some of his family. believe it or believe it not. but nigel ionode— or believe it not. but nigel ionode io— or believe it not. but nigel farage is now— or believe it not. but nigel farage is now the third person i know— farage is now the third person i know personally— farage is now the third person i know personally who has been ineoied— know personally who has been treated—banking. treated thus by the banking inddein— treated thus by the banking industry-recent- treated thus by the banking industry recent months . i'm industry in recent months. i'm oieo— industry in recent months. i'm oieo oineody— industry in recent months. i'm also already aware of other nnivoie— also already aware of other private citizens— also already aware of other private citizens of this oooniny. — private citizens of this country. apparently law abiding, ioopoyind— country. apparently law abiding, taxpaying citizens , some in the taxpaying citizens, some in the nonde— taxpaying citizens, some in the ooiiie eye,— taxpaying citizens, some in the ooiiie eye, ond— taxpaying citizens, some in the public eye, and the majority deiiniieiy— public eye, and the majority definitely not,— public eye, and the majority definitely not, who have been einiioniy— definitely not, who have been similarly dealt— definitely not, who have been similarly dealt with. if you

ioon— similarly dealt with. if you ioon on— similarly dealt with. if you ioon on n,— similarly dealt with. if you look on it, this— similarly dealt with. if you look on it, this behaviour by donne— look on it, this behaviour by ionne ond— look on it, this behaviour by banks and console yourself that soon— banks and console yourself that soon onnoi— banks and console yourself that such cannot and— banks and console yourself that such cannot and will not happen to such cannot and will not happen do you— such cannot and will not happen do you ond— such cannot and will not happen io you ond youn— such cannot and will not happen to you and yours on account of youn— to you and yours on account of on good— to you and yours on account of on good peooie— to you and yours on account of your good people and no trouble to your good people and no trouble do one— your good people and no trouble do one side,— your good people and no trouble to the state, then— your good people and no trouble to the state, then i— your good people and no trouble to the state, then i urge you to ininn— to the state, then i urge you to nine ogoin— to the state, then i urge you to think again. what— to the state, then i urge you to think again. what can happen to ononey— think again. what can happen to ononey mav— think again. what can happen to anyone may sooner later anyone may sooner or later nonnen— anyone may sooner or later happen everyone when it comes happen to everyone when it comes to happen to everyone when it comes io dovennnnenei— happen to everyone when it comes to governments that— happen to everyone when it comes to governments that which they can to governments that which they do. — to governments that which they do. they— to governments that which they can do. they certainly will do. i can do. they certainly will do. i einoddie— can do. they certainly will do. i einoddie io— can do. they certainly will do. i struggle to believe this is onene— i struggle to believe this is nnene ne— i struggle to believe this is where we are— i struggle to believe this is where we are now. the social einondoiodon— where we are now. the social strangulation of— where we are now. the social strangulation of those deemed beyond— strangulation of those deemed ieyond ine— strangulation of those deemed beyond the pale.— strangulation of those deemed beyond the pale. for whatever reason, those— beyond the pale. for whatever reason, those identified as novind— reason, those identified as having-critical- reason, those identified as having critical of the having been critical of the mainstream— having been critical of the mainstream state sponsored nonodve— mainstream state sponsored nonodve ,— mainstream state sponsored nonodve , o— mainstream state sponsored narrative , a malevolent and narrative, a malevolent and einieien— narrative, a malevolent and sinister behaviour in the pioyioon— sinister behaviour in the playbook oi— sinister behaviour in the playbook of repressive, dictatorial— playbook of repressive, dictatorial authoritarian nedinee— dictatorial authoritarian nedinee io— dictatorial authoritarian regimes is apparently standard nnoeiiee— regimes is apparently standard pnoeiiee nene— regimes is apparently standard practise here in— regimes is apparently standard practise here in the britain. inoi— practise here in the britain. inoi noe— practise here in the britain. that was once— practise here in the britain. that was once great, but that is deod— that was once great, but that is dneoi. do— that was once great, but that is oneoi. no longer-— that was once great, but that is great. no longer. this treatment is being— great. no longer. this treatment is being-odi— great. no longer. this treatment is being-odd io- great. no longer. this treatment is being out to nigel is being meted out to nigel ionode— is being meted out to nigel nonode-jdei— is being meted out to nigel nonode-jdei io- is being meted out to nigel farage just to life farage not just to make life innoeeiiie— farage not just to make life impossible-but- farage not just to make life impossible but i say impossible for him, but i say noon— impossible for him, but i say pour encourager_ impossible for him, but i say pour encourager les ultra . it is pour encourager les ultra. it is a pour encourager les ultra. it is o donning— pour encourager les ultra. it is o nonnind io— pour encourager les ultra. it is o donning no one— pour encourager les ultra. it is a warning to one and all that noidind— a warning to one and all that noidind ond— a warning to one and all that holding and disposing views oodneni— holding and disposing views eodneni io— holding and disposing views counter to those favoured by the odinonidee— counter to those favoured by the authorities will— counter to those favoured by the authorities will no— counter to those favoured by the authorities will no longer be ioienoied— authorities will no longer be ioienoied .— authorities will no longer be tolerated . add— authorities will no longer be tolerated . add in the hive mind tolerated. add in the hive mind of one— tolerated. add in the hive mind of one nond— tolerated. add in the hive mind of the borg like— tolerated. add in the hive mind of the borg like collective that is

of the borg like collective that ie one— of the borg like collective that is one oni— of the borg like collective that is one oni pony— of the borg like collective that is the uni party totalitarian nedine— is the uni party totalitarian regime towards— is the uni party totalitarian regime towards which we are being— regime towards which we are being marched.— regime towards which we are being marched. the drones are to being marched. the drones are to ie deio— being marched. the drones are to ie ieii in— being marched. the drones are to ie ieii in no— being marched. the drones are to be left in no doubt— being marched. the drones are to be left in no doubt that resistance— be left in no doubt that resistance is— be left in no doubt that resistance is futile , as resistance is futile, as einieien— resistance is futile, as sinister as— resistance is futile, as sinister as any other aspect of all sinister as any other aspect of odd onio— sinister as any other aspect of odd one is— sinister as any other aspect of all this is the— sinister as any other aspect of all this is the realisation the whip— all this is the realisation the one is— all this is the realisation the nnin ie in— all this is the realisation the whip is in the— all this is the realisation the whip is in the hand of the corporations.— whip is in the hand of the corporations. klaus schwab of the corporations. klaus schwab of one iionid— corporations. klaus schwab of the world economic forum calls onio— the world economic forum calls this euphemistically stakeholder eoniioiien— this euphemistically stakeholder ooniioiien .— this euphemistically stakeholder capitalism . what— this euphemistically stakeholder capitalism . what it means is capitalism. what it means is ind— capitalism. what it means is not one— capitalism. what it means is that the decisions that matter are that the decisions that matter node— that the decisions that matter nnode noi— that the decisions that matter are made not by— that the decisions that matter are made not by governments but by big— are made not by governments but by big business— are made not by governments but by big business and big business is answerable— by big business and big business is answerable only— by big business and big business is answerable only to its owners. owners who long ago decided— owners. owners who long ago decided that— owners. owners who long ago decided that borders and eoveneidn— decided that borders and sovereign individuals are inconvenient. _ sovereign individuals are inconvenient. so far, so bureaucratic.- inconvenient. so far, so bureaucratic. but simply put, iney-ne— bureaucratic. but simply put, they're messing— bureaucratic. but simply put, they're messing with us. those ideoioddee— they're messing with us. those ideologues and— they're messing with us. those ideologues and their sock ooooeie. — ideologues and their sock puppets. indeed diligently and perverselyn— puppets. indeed diligently and peneneeiy, oe— puppets. indeed diligently and perversely, are finding every ioni— perversely, are finding every ioei way— perversely, are finding every ioei way io— perversely, are finding every last way to mess with us. there are last way to mess with us. there ndiiinie— last way to mess with us. there are multiple motives for this neeeind— are multiple motives for this neeeind witn— are multiple motives for this messing with us. but the most innononi— messing with us. but the most inoononi io— messing with us. but the most important is the— messing with us. but the most important is the intention to divide— important is the intention to divide ,— important is the intention to divide , io— important is the intention to divide , to set— important is the intention to divide , to set individual divide, to set individual odoinei— divide, to set individual against individual tribe against inne— against individual tribe against dine .— against individual tribe against iniie . annoye— against individual tribe against tribe . always the— against individual tribe against tribe . always the aim is to have tribe. always the aim is to have us tribe. always the aim is to have do oi— tribe. always the aim is to have do oi eoon— tribe. always the aim is to have us at each other's_ tribe. always the aim is to have us at each other's throats. so we— us at each other's throats. so we ovenioon— us at each other's throats. so we overlook the— us at each other's throats. so we overlook the malevolence oonind— we overlook the malevolence oonnind inon — we overlook the malevolence

coming from the— we overlook the malevolence coming from the state. look at nnod— coming from the state. look at odd one-ne— coming from the state. look at what we're being— coming from the state. look at what we're being bullied into, oeeeniind— what we're being bullied into, oeeeoiind oe— what we're being bullied into, accepting as normal thought and onion— accepting as normal thought and oeiion ond— accepting as normal thought and oeiion ond oi— accepting as normal thought and action and at what— accepting as normal thought and action and at what we are told to action and at what we are told io nejeoi— action and at what we are told io nejeoi oe— action and at what we are told to reject as wrong— action and at what we are told to reject as wrong think being onoieodve— to reject as wrong think being onoieeiive oi— to reject as wrong think being protective of family and oniidnen— protective of family and children is— protective of family and children is deemed wrong . think children is deemed wrong. think ieind— children is deemed wrong. think ieind on— children is deemed wrong. think being an advocate— children is deemed wrong. think being an advocate of freedom is ioieiied— being an advocate of freedom is labelled right— being an advocate of freedom is labelled right wing as if right wing— labelled right wing as if right wing even— labelled right wing as if right wing even means anything anymore , wing even means anything anymore onion— wing even means anything anymore ,vnien ii— wing even means anything anymore , which it doesn't.— wing even means anything anymore , which it doesn't. being no onon— , which it doesn't. being no more than mud— , which it doesn't. being no more than mud for slinging oppnoved— more than mud for slinging oppnoved oi— more than mud for slinging approved of brexit just being oniivoieni— approved of brexit just being ambivalent about brexit is deemed— ambivalent about brexit is deemed wrong. think knowing onene— deemed wrong. think knowing onene oe— deemed wrong. think knowing there are only— deemed wrong. think knowing there are only two sexes and ind— there are only two sexes and not ononde— there are only two sexes and that change from one to the ode— that change from one to the one is— that change from one to the other is impossible is wrong. ininn— other is impossible is wrong. think-declare— other is impossible is wrong. think declare christian faith think to declare christian faith is iniiniieiv— think to declare christian faith is infinitely more— think to declare christian faith is infinitely more likely to oiinooi— is infinitely more likely to attract condemnation than oioinind— attract condemnation than claiming women have penises eieevvnene.— claiming women have penises eieevnene. ii— claiming women have penises elsewhere. it seems we are to oooeni— elsewhere. it seems we are to oooeni nen— elsewhere. it seems we are to accept men stripping off and donoind— accept men stripping off and doneind neo— accept men stripping off and dancing near naked or in bondage deon— dancing near naked or in bondage deon onone— dancing near naked or in bondage gear among gatherings of oniidnen.— gear among gatherings of children. a— gear among gatherings of children. a march for pride monon— children. a march for pride iionin in— children. a march for pride month in new— children. a march for pride month in new york city last week was underscored— month in new york city last week was underscored the chanting was underscored by the chanting of-he.e,_ was underscored by the chanting oi-nene, vie-ne— was underscored by the chanting of here, we're queer, of we're here, we're queer, ve-ne—vodn- of we're here, we're queer,- we're_your children. we're coming for your children. why— we're coming for your children. wnv—oddii- we're coming for your children. why—adult think- we're coming for your children. why adult think that why would any adult think that an why would any adult think that on oppnonnioie— why would any adult think that an appropriate thing to say.7 once— an appropriate thing to say.7 once upon— an appropriate thing to say.7 onoe noon o— an appropriate thing to say.7 once upon a time in the movie odoniodon— once upon a time in the movie odooioiion oi— once upon a time in the movie adaptation of chitty chitty bang nond— adaptation of chitty chitty bang bangv ine— adaptation of chitty chitty bang bang, the child— adaptation of chitty chitty bang bang, the child catcher, eonoieie— bang, the child catcher, complete with giant net, was

oniv— complete with giant net, was oniv o— complete with giant net, was oniv o ioinv— complete with giant net, was only a fairy tale— complete with giant net, was only a fairy tale terror. if oieo— only a fairy tale terror. if oieo ine— only a fairy tale terror. if also the stuff— only a fairy tale terror. if also the stuff of nightmares . as also the stuff of nightmares. as neoeniiv— also the stuff of nightmares. as neoeniiv oe— also the stuff of nightmares. as recently as 2008,— also the stuff of nightmares. as recently as 2008, the child ooienen— recently as 2008, the child catcher was _ recently as 2008, the child catcher was voted among the 50 nosi— catcher was voted among the 50 noei vie— catcher was voted among the 50 most vile movie _ catcher was voted among the 50 most vile movie villains by entertainment— most vile movie villains by entertainment weekly in 2023, a denenoiion— entertainment weekly in 2023, a denenoiion oi— entertainment weekly in 2023, a generation of children might be inviied— generation of children might be inviied io— generation of children might be invited to contemplate the child ooionen— invited to contemplate the child ooionen ion— invited to contemplate the child catcher for real— invited to contemplate the child catcher for real out there in one— catcher for real out there in one end— catcher for real out there in the street and— catcher for real out there in the street and coming closer. ioeoioin — the street and coming closer. ioeoioin nonv— the street and coming closer. reclaim party mp andrew bridgen eoodni— reclaim party mp andrew bridgen eoodni io— reclaim party mp andrew bridgen sought to initiate— reclaim party mp andrew bridgen sought to initiate a bill to ensure schools— sought to initiate a bill to ensure schools would inform nonenie— ensure schools would inform nonenie oi— ensure schools would inform parents of their— ensure schools would inform parents of their children were ideniiivind— parents of their children were ideniiivind oe— parents of their children were identifying as the opposite sex. vind— identifying as the opposite sex. wnoi inev— identifying as the opposite sex. what they call— identifying as the opposite sex. what they call social transitioning , perhaps embarking transitioning, perhaps embarking on one— transitioning, perhaps embarking on one nood— transitioning, perhaps embarking on the road that— transitioning, perhaps embarking on the road that ends in the nennovoi— on the road that ends in the nennovoi oi— on the road that ends in the removal of genitals and breasts. a nojoniiv— removal of genitals and breasts. a nojoniiv oi— removal of genitals and breasts. a majority of mps_ removal of genitals and breasts. a majority of mps of all stripes eindoi— a majority of mps of all stripes struck britain's— a majority of mps of all stripes struck britain's efforts down ieione— struck britain's efforts down ieione ii— struck britain's efforts down before it could— struck britain's efforts down before it could get out of the eioniind — before it could get out of the starting blocks.— before it could get out of the starting blocks. labour mp ben nnodenovv— starting blocks. labour mp ben bradshaw described britain's inieniione— bradshaw described britain's intentions, which is to say ieiiind— intentions, which is to say letting parents— intentions, which is to say letting parents know if their oniidnen— letting parents know if their children are— letting parents know if their children are living alternative iivee— children are living alternative iivee oi— children are living alternative lives at school— children are living alternative lives at school as despicable. did— lives at school as despicable. oid pieioiie— lives at school as despicable. did pickable that— lives at school as despicable. did pickable that parents should be veni— did pickable that parents should be kept informed— did pickable that parents should be kept informed about their eniidnen-e— be kept informed about their children's lives— be kept informed about their children's lives can be described— children's lives can be described as- children's lives can be described as despicable by a eiiiind— described as despicable by a eiiiind iii— described as despicable by a sitting mp and— described as despicable by a sitting mp and that his comment is ioddiv— sitting mp and that his comment is loudly approved—

sitting mp and that his comment is loudly approved by a majority of is loudly approved by a majority oi nie— is loudly approved by a majority oi no in. — is loudly approved by a majority oi no in. is— is loudly approved by a majority of his ilk. is where— is loudly approved by a majority of his ilk. is where we are now , in— of his ilk. is where we are now , in inie— of his ilk. is where we are now , in this shadow— of his ilk. is where we are now , in this shadow land of britain . oeeniooiie— , in this shadow land of britain . despicable was— , in this shadow land of britain . despicable was a— , in this shadow land of britain . despicable was a noteworthy onoiee— . despicable was a noteworthy enoioe oi— . despicable was a noteworthy choice of words,— . despicable was a noteworthy choice of words, given that nnodenovv-e— choice of words, given that bradshaw's use— choice of words, given that bradshaw's use of it came soon oiien— bradshaw's use of it came soon oiien o— bradshaw's use of it came soon oiien o ieoonen— bradshaw's use of it came soon after a teacher at— bradshaw's use of it came soon after a teacher at reich college in ioni— after a teacher at reich college in east sussex— after a teacher at reich college in east sussex used the same vniie— in east sussex used the same vvniie invind— in east sussex used the same vvniie invind io— in east sussex used the same while trying to humiliate and eiienoe— while trying to humiliate and eiienee o— while trying to humiliate and silence a young— while trying to humiliate and silence a young who refused silence a young girl who refused to silence a young girl who refused io oooeni— silence a young girl who refused io oooeni o— silence a young girl who refused to accept a fellow— silence a young girl who refused to accept a fellow pupils decision— to accept a fellow pupils decision to— to accept a fellow pupils decision to identify as a cat. nnodenov— decision to identify as a cat. bradshaw sought to dismiss ionidden— bradshaw sought to dismiss nnidden oe— bradshaw sought to dismiss nnidden on o— bradshaw sought to dismiss bridgen as a conspiracy iieoniei— bridgen as a conspiracy theorist, despite the ever gnovind— theorist, despite the ever growing number of young people coming— growing number of young people coming ionvvond— growing number of young people coming forward to— growing number of young people coming forward to express bitter nednei— coming forward to express bitter nednei oi— coming forward to express bitter end oi novind— coming forward to express bitter regret at having been coaxed and or regret at having been coaxed and on enoodnoded— regret at having been coaxed and on eneoonoded by— regret at having been coaxed and or encouraged by adults through a or encouraged by adults through o onoeeee inoi— or encouraged by adults through a process that left— or encouraged by adults through a process that left them mutilated _ a process that left them mutilated sterilise and condemned— mutilated sterilise and condemned to shortened lesser iivee— condemned to shortened lesser iivee oi— condemned to shortened lesser lives at increased— condemned to shortened lesser lives at increased risk of oeneieieni— lives at increased risk of persistent infections underneath all persistent infections underneath oii oi— persistent infections underneath oii oi ii— persistent infections underneath oii oi ii is— persistent infections underneath all of it is the _ persistent infections underneath all of it is the message that vnen— all of it is the message that vvnen ii— all of it is the message that when it comes— all of it is the message that when it comes to- all of it is the message that when it comes to the children, it's when it comes to the children, in ine— when it comes to the children, in ine eioie— when it comes to the children, it's the state and— when it comes to the children, it's the state and not the nonenie— it's the state and not the parents that— it's the state and not the parents that have the final say in eo— parents that have the final say in no nonv— parents that have the final say in so nonv nove— parents that have the final say in so many ways that matter. parents that have the final say in so many ways that matter . the in so many ways that matter. the oniidnen— in so many ways that matter. the oniidnen oe— in so many ways that matter. the children are already— in so many ways that matter. the children are already caught . children are already caught. inn— children are already caught. inie io— children are already caught. this is where— children are already caught. this is where we are now. opponeniiv— this is where we are now. apparently in_ this is where we are now. apparently in a- this is where we are now. apparently in a world where one vvnond— apparently in a world where one vvnond nond— apparently in a world where one vvnond vvond on— apparently in a world where one wrong word can see a person eviied— wrong word can see a person eviied io— wrong word can see a person eviied io o— wrong word can see a person exiled to a life— wrong word can see a person exiled to a life made impossible in on— exiled to a life made impossible in on nnoendn— exiled to a life made impossible in any modern sense. a world vnene— in any modern sense. a world vvnene ine— in any modern sense. a world where the messing with

children's— where the messing with children's bodies, with our minde— children's bodies, with our minds ond— children's bodies, with our minds and with our understanding of minds and with our understanding oi-vnond— minds and with our understanding of-wronglnothing- of right and wrong is nothing dese— of right and wrong is nothing less-sadistic— of right and wrong is nothing less-sadistic ,- of right and wrong is nothing less sadistic , shaped less than sadistic, shaped and ononeodnonned— less than sadistic, shaped and choreographed-is- less than sadistic, shaped and choreographed is to cut choreographed as it is to cut oeonie— choreographed as it is to cut peooie-inon - choreographed as it is to cut people from their moorings people loose from their moorings and people loose from their moorings ond sei— people loose from their moorings ond eei inen— people loose from their moorings and set them adrift— people loose from their moorings and set them adrift upon an oi— and set them adrift upon an ocean of uncertainty. motty if you— ocean of uncertainty. motty if yon—iondenl ocean of uncertainty. motty if- vod—ionden inovv you feel that you no longer know vnion— you feel that you no longer know vnion nov— you feel that you no longer know vnion vvov io— you feel that you no longer know vnien vvov ie on— you feel that you no longer know which way is up, then i invite you— which way is up, then i invite you io— which way is up, then i invite you io-ine— which way is up, then i invite you to -the club. - which way is up, then i invite you to the club. the you to join the club. the iieeeind— you to join the club. the iieeeindlon- you to join the club. the- messing.an.encompassing , messing is an all encompassing, inoneoeindiv— messing is an all encompassing, increasingly-every- increasingly polluting every oeneoi— increasingly polluting every oeoeei oi— increasingly polluting every aspect of everyday life . i read aspect of everyday life. i read ioei— aspect of everyday life. i read ioei ween— aspect of everyday life. i read last week about— aspect of everyday life. i read last week about how the dovennneni— last week about how the government of the netherlands has government of the netherlands nos-veone— government of the netherlands has years authorised has in recent years authorised the has in recent years authorised ine—oi— has in recent years authorised the—of otherwise. the euthanizing of otherwise neoiinv— the euthanizing of otherwise neoiinv voond— the euthanizing of otherwise healthy young people, people vnoee— healthy young people, people vnoee oniv— healthy young people, people whose only dissatisfactions were onion— whose only dissatisfactions were odiien on— whose only dissatisfactions were odiien on one— whose only dissatisfactions were autism or some other intellectual- autism or some other intellectual challenge . this is intellectual challenge. this is the intellectual challenge. this is ine oe— intellectual challenge. this is the same netherlands where ionnnen— the same netherlands where farmers are being driven off inein— farmers are being driven off inein iond— farmers are being driven off their land to— farmers are being driven off their land to make way for the nego— their land to make way for the neo div— their land to make way for the mega city building plans of more of mega city building plans of more oi inoee— mega city building plans of more of those stakeholder capitalist transnational— of those stakeholder capitalist transnational corporations . the transnational corporations. the same netherlands where homeowners _ same netherlands where homeowners can now be coerced to eeii— homeowners can now be coerced to eeii inein— homeowners can now be coerced to eeii inein nones— homeowners can now be coerced to sell their homes only— homeowners can now be coerced to sell their homes only to people vviin— sell their homes only to people vviin o— sell their homes only to people vviin o-io— sell their homes only to people with a-to medium - sell their homes only to people with a to medium income, with a low to medium income, vnion— with a low to medium income, vnionlio— with a low to medium income, vnionlio eov— with a low to medium income, which-to say the— with a low to medium income, which to say the government which is to say the government decides—edi- which is to say the government. decides—sell your decides who you might sell your none— decides who you might sell your none io— decides who you might sell your none io ond— decides who you might sell your home to and lwhat_ decides who you might sell your home to and what price. more home to and at what price. more ond— home to and at what price. more ond ine— home to and at what price. more and more, the netherlands oooeone— and more, the netherlands oooeonelie— and more, the netherlands appearslbe o— and more, the netherlands appears be a petri dish for appears to be a petri dish for ine— appears to be a petri dish for the conducting— appears to be a petri dish for the conducting manner of the conducting of all manner of evnenineni— the conducting of all manner of

experiment-social— the conducting of all manner of experiment social engineering experiment in social engineering .-vnoi— experiment in social engineering .-vvnoi nonnene— experiment in social engineering . what happens there anyway . and what happens there anyway 7 . and what happens there anyway ewnene— . and what happens there anyway iwnene midni— . and what happens there anyway .7 where might happen elsewhere and .7 where might happen elsewhere ond-evenvvnene. — .7 where might happen elsewhere and everywhere. the west in and then everywhere. the west in the and then everywhere. the west in ine ionn — and then everywhere. the west in ine ionn oi— and then everywhere. the west in the form of nato— and then everywhere. the west in the form of nato driven full tilt the form of nato driven full iiii by— the form of nato driven full iiii by ine— the form of nato driven full tilt by the us— the form of nato driven full tilt by the us and the uk, nonde— tilt by the us and the uk, ionne o— tilt by the us and the uk, pursue a forever war in ukraine. snoveiiind— pursue a forever war in ukraine. shovelling hundreds of billions of shovelling hundreds of billions oi doiions— shovelling hundreds of billions of dollars, pounds and euros inio— of dollars, pounds and euros into government— of dollars, pounds and euros into government coffers there in the into government coffers there in ine none— into government coffers there in ine oi— into government coffers there in the name of defending democracy . vie— the name of defending democracy . we in— the name of defending democracy . we in ukraine,— the name of defending democracy . we in ukraine, democracy noniieeie— . we in ukraine, democracy manifests itself— . we in ukraine, democracy manifests itself now in the doevennnnni— manifests itself now in the governments banning of opooeiiion— governments banning of opposition parties. the shutting down— opposition parties. the shutting down ond— opposition parties. the shutting down and criminalising of dieeeniind— down and criminalising of dissenting media, the jailing of a dissenting media, the jailing of o noiiiiooi— dissenting media, the jailing of a political rival— dissenting media, the jailing of a political rival and the noidind— a political rival and the noidind oi— a political rival and the raiding of orthodox churches. dinoine— raiding of orthodox churches. dinoine nov— raiding of orthodox churches. ukraine may not— raiding of orthodox churches. ukraine may not be the most connoi— ukraine may not be the most corrupt country— ukraine may not be the most corrupt country on earth, but in ienne— corrupt country on earth, but in ienne oi— corrupt country on earth, but in ienne oi nonv— corrupt country on earth, but in terms of many metrics, it's deiiniieiv— terms of many metrics, it's definitely in— terms of many metrics, it's definitely in the - terms of many metrics, it's definitely in the top one. i inviie— definitely in the top one. i inviie vod— definitely in the top one. i invite you to— definitely in the top one. i invite you to contemplate a grim but nonetheless— invite you to contemplate a grim but nonetheless revealing truth inoi— but nonetheless revealing truth inoi ine— but nonetheless revealing truth that the powers— but nonetheless revealing truth that the powers that be, the side— that the powers that be, the state, whatever— that the powers that be, the state, whatever ,_ that the powers that be, the state, whatever , as well as state, whatever, as well as inoee— state, whatever, as well as those populating the institute, as those populating the institute, oe inoee— those populating the institute, as those driving— those populating the institute, as those driving the mainstream medio— as those driving the mainstream nedio, nove— as those driving the mainstream media, have absolutely no option but media, have absolutely no option iii-keen— media, have absolutely no option but-keep driving— media, have absolutely no option but keep driving their but to keep driving their invenion— but to keep driving their inversion society for inversion of society for a neniod— inversion of society for a oeniod oi— inversion of society for a period of time.- inversion of society for a period of time. hard to quantify— period of time. hard to quantify, but- period of time. hard to quantify, but let's imagine it in ienne— quantify, but let's imagine it in ienne oi— quantify, but let's imagine it in terms of many decades at ieoei— in terms of many decades at ieoei, o— in terms of many decades at least, a campaign of lying and piondenind—

least, a campaign of lying and plundering practised upon the nonv— plundering practised upon the nonv by— plundering practised upon the nonv by ine— plundering practised upon the many by the few— plundering practised upon the many by the few has delivered inoee— many by the few has delivered inoee ivind— many by the few has delivered those lying thieves to a point vnene— those lying thieves to a point vvnene ii— those lying thieves to a point vvnene ii ine— those lying thieves to a point where if the many realised the evieni— where if the many realised the evieni oi— where if the many realised the extent of the _ where if the many realised the extent of the wrongdoing, then the consequences— extent of the wrongdoing, then the consequences would be ooioonioi— the consequences would be colourful,-the- the consequences would be colourful, the least . colourful, to say the least. snonie— colourful, to say the least. sharks must— colourful, to say the least. sharks must keep swimming ionvond— sharks must keep swimming ionvond on— sharks must keep swimming forward or they— sharks must keep swimming forward or they drown . everyone forward or they drown. everyone eniiee— forward or they drown. everyone eniiee oi— forward or they drown. everyone eniiee oi ine— forward or they drown. everyone smiles at the ending of it's a vvondenidi— smiles at the ending of it's a wonderful life— smiles at the ending of it's a wonderful life ,_ smiles at the ending of it's a wonderful life , all but wonderful life, all but deeinoved— wonderful life, all but destroyed by- wonderful life, all but destroyed by the villainous ionnen— destroyed by the villainous ionnen din— destroyed by the villainous banker mr potter. small town, dood— banker mr potter. small town, good on— banker mr potter. small town, good man george— banker mr potter. small town, good man george bailey is saved in ine— good man george bailey is saved in ine end— good man george bailey is saved in ine end by— good man george bailey is saved in the end by the— good man george bailey is saved in the end by the customers of his in the end by the customers of no einoddiind— in the end by the customers of his struggling building and loon— his struggling building and ioon o— his struggling building and loan, a community bank that has eoddni— loan, a community bank that has eoodni oniv— loan, a community bank that has eoodni oniv io— loan, a community bank that has sought only to enable those customers to— sought only to enable those customers to live decent lives , customers to live decent lives, eoved— customers to live decent lives, eoved oieo— customers to live decent lives, eoved oieo by— customers to live decent lives, saved also by the— customers to live decent lives, saved also by the people of the ionn— saved also by the people of the iovn nno— saved also by the people of the town who love— saved also by the people of the town who love him. we smile and cw town who love him. we smile and on oi— town who love him. we smile and on oi ine— town who love him. we smile and on oi ine end— town who love him. we smile and on oi ine end oi— town who love him. we smile and cry at the end of the— town who love him. we smile and cry at the end of the story ieoooee— cry at the end of the story because we know its rightful the neoeeeniion— because we know its rightful the neoeeeniion oi— because we know its rightful the reassertion of the— because we know its rightful the reassertion of the rightful onden— reassertion of the rightful onden oi— reassertion of the rightful order of-after- reassertion of the rightful order of after time spent order of things after time spent in o— order of things after time spent in o vnondioi— order of things after time spent in a wrongful alternative kyiv in a wrongful alternative kyiv in ine— in a wrongful alternative kyiv in ine vonid. — in a wrongful alternative kyiv in the world. george bailey inieiiv— in the world. george bailey briefly wished _ in the world. george bailey briefly wished for and got a void— briefly wished for and got a vonid in— briefly wished for and got a world in which— briefly wished for and got a world in which he had never been ionn.— world in which he had never been ionn. adi— world in which he had never been ionn. did no— world in which he had never been born. all was wrong,— world in which he had never been born. all was wrong, upside down and born. all was wrong, upside down ond inside— born. all was wrong, upside down and inside out.— born. all was wrong, upside down and inside out. his— born. all was wrong, upside down and inside out. his own children didn-i— and inside out. his own children didn-i exiei— and inside out. his own children didn't exist because he had never existed— didn't exist because he had never existed .— didn't exist because he had never existed . we're being never existed. we're being pneeenied— never existed. we're being presented-that- never existed. we're being presented that 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ininiind ii— darkened world now tricked into thinking it has— darkened world now tricked into thinking it has to— darkened world now tricked into thinking it has to be real. if it thinking it has to be real. if ii eeenne— thinking it has to be real. if it seems like— thinking it has to be real. if it seems like a— thinking it has to be real. if it seems like a nightmare, then all it seems like a nightmare, then oii ve— it seems like a nightmare, then oii ve nove— it seems like a nightmare, then all we have to— it seems like a nightmare, then all we have to do— it seems like a nightmare, then all we have to do is wake up. if we don-i,— all we have to do is wake up. if we don-i, inen— all we have to do is wake up. if we don't, then zuzu's petals are done— we don't, then zuzu's petals are done ioneven— we don't, then zuzu's petals are done ioeven .— gone forever. joining- gone forever. joining me tonight, gone forever. - joining me tonight, the joonnoiiei— joining me tonight, the journalist and presenter jasmine iodides.— journalist and presenter jasmine birtles. jasmine— journalist and presenter jasmine birtles. jasmine first and ionenoei— birtles. jasmine first and foremost, you're a finance, iinonoioi— foremost, you're a finance, financial adviser. what do you move— financial adviser. what do you move nov— financial adviser. what do you move now do— financial adviser. what do you make how do you— financial adviser. what do you make how do you interpret what done— make how do you interpret what done viin— make how do you interpret what was done with nigel farage in the was done with nigel farage in ine weev— was done with nigel farage in ine week i — was done with nigel farage in ine week i i— was done with nigel farage in the week .7 i think- was done with nigel farage in the week .7 e f jg the week? i think it's shocking, but it's not new. this has been going on for a while. in fact, i wrote an article last year about various organisations that had been cancelled. you had the free speech union and also us, the charity us for them, uk, which were cancelled by paypal citizen go, which is against abortion, was cancelled by the bank wise. there were a couple of very right wing individuals. i can't remember their names, who were cancelled by santander . even the

cancelled by santander. even the blog, the vlog trigonometry was cancelled for a short time. so this is this is something that's happening more than regularly nowadays. and as you say, there are people that that are not well known who are getting this against them. and it's entirely political because, i mean, when you think, you know, most banks have all sorts of people on their books, including murderers, rapists, fraudsters, fraudsters are quite happy to have that. but somebody whose political views, they're not keen on suddenly is not wanted. and at the moment, keen on suddenly is not wanted. and at the moment , the and at the moment, the establishment is kind of left, you know, media establishment, the establishment, generally civil service, they're kind of left of centre . so they're going left of centre. so they're going for the right . left of centre. so they're going for the right. but at some point a few years time it'll switch again and, and it'll be the left wingers who are attacked as well. i know you're not a ionven— well. i know you're not a lawyerv idi— well. i know you're not a lawyer, but in— well. i know you're not a lawyer, but in it- i know you're not a lawyer, but in it jumped out at me inoi— lawyer, but in it jumped out at me that surely— lawyer, but in it jumped out at me that surely there had to be ionn oi— me that surely there had to be some form of unlawfulness about oiodi— some form of unlawfulness about oiooi o— some form of unlawfulness about about a government staff ending by vniie— about a government staff ending by vniie o— about a government staff ending by vvniie o iov— about a government staff ending

by while a law abiding, taxpaying— by while a law abiding, taxpaying citizen was made a non nenon— taxpaying citizen was made a non nenon by— taxpaying citizen was made a non nenon by by— taxpaying citizen was made a non nenon by by o— taxpaying citizen was made a non person by by a corporate entity. i person by by a corporate entity. i neon— person by by a corporate entity. i i— person by by a corporate entity. inneon i know— person by by a corporate entity. i mean, i know you— person by by a corporate entity. i mean, i know you could say, on— i mean, i know you could say, on ie— i mean, i know you could say, on in o— i mean, i know you could say, oh, it's a private— i mean, i know you could say, oh, it's a private business. they— oh, it's a private business. inev on— oh, it's a private business. inev do— oh, it's a private business. they can do what they like. wen, — they can do what they like. well, ves— they can do what they like. well, yes, this— they can do what they like. well, yes, this is- they can do what they like. well, yes, this is not just being— well, yes, this is not just being barred— well, yes, this is not just being barred from a pub put being barred from a pub or put out being barred from a pub or put odi oi— being barred from a pub or put odi oi o— being barred from a pub or put odi oi o ednen— being barred from a pub or put out of a super market. e out of a super market. it's wed.— out of a super market. it's veii. ido— out of a super market. it's wed. in o— out of a super market. it's well, it's a-point.- out of a super market. it's well, it's a point. and we well, it's a good point. and we kind of discussed this back in 2008 when banks failed, you 2008 when the banks failed, you know, like were know, or looked like they were about to fail. some of them did. you know, because we i think we we'd i certainly grown we'd all i certainly i'd grown up was just a human up thinking it was just a human right a bank right that you have a bank account. apparently it's not because as you say, because they are as you say, they're you're they're companies. you're a member. wedgwood, member. tony benn, wedgwood, benn.he member. tony benn, wedgwood, benn. he wanted to have a government bank , a bank. and government run bank, a bank. and we had it apparently for a short time, which then turned into alliance which alliance and leicester, which then bought out by then was bought out by santander. et cetera . it didn't santander. et cetera. it didn't work, but it could have done, i think , and it might have been a think, and it might have been a better idea . there are better idea. there are alternatives. that's one of the good things. now, there are some alternatives. so for example, there's a bank account called tally money tally money.com. and

that's all based on gold. everything is invested in gold and i know because i've spoken to them, they said, you know, whoever comes along will they'll they'll talk to whoever, you know, they see that. no. yes they say know, they see that. no. yes inev eov inoe. — know, they see that. no. yes they say true. until- no. yes they say true. until there are oniii— they say true. until there are oniii inene— they say true. until there are until there are— they say true. until there are until there are some until inene-e— until there are some until there's some— until there are some until there's some form of guarantee, vvnoieven— there's some form of guarantee, vvnoieven in— there's some form of guarantee, whatever in whatever form. yes. voo— whatever in whatever form. yes. you oodid— whatever in whatever form. yes. you could find— whatever in whatever form. yes. you could find yourself exiled by a— you could find yourself exiled by o eonnonoie— you could find yourself exiled by a corporate entity that doeen-i— by a corporate entity that doesn't like _ by a corporate entity that doesn't like the cut of your in. — doesn't like the cut of your in and— doesn't like the cut of your jib. and that's— doesn't like the cut of your jib. and that's it. absolutely ido— jib. and that's it. absolutely it's absolutely— jib. and that's it. absolutely it's absolutely right.- jib. and that's it. absolutely it's absolutely right. and- jib. and that's it. absolutely it's absolutely right. and this is the problem when you have a sort of a mass woke kyrees at the moment where all the businesses have people, i think it's people in their 20s and 30s who've decided they don't like anybody who's pro—brexit , they anybody who's pro—brexit, they don't like anybody who's anti—abortion, they don't like anybody is , as you've anybody who is, as you've mentioned, christian, know, mentioned, christian, you know, all of these sort of areas , all of these sort of areas, they're very unhappy, particularly if they're outspoken about something . and outspoken about something. and this does have to be removed because it's simply not right to have that . if they're have that. if they're a criminal, that's another thing.

simply not right is a line i dine— simply not right is a line i iiie ond— simply not right is a line i like and understand . we're on like and understand. we're on a ineoi— like and understand. we're on a ineoi oineodv— like and understand. we're on a ineoi oineodv .— like and understand. we're on a break already , after which ralph break already, after which ralph schollhammer— break already, after which ralph schollhammer will be here to idi— schollhammer will be here to ioii oiodi— schollhammer will be here to talk about what— schollhammer will be here to talk about what exactly is going on in— talk about what exactly is going on in ine— talk about what exactly is going on in the netherlands and across inope— on in the netherlands and across ionone oi— on in the netherlands and across ionone oi ine— on in the netherlands and across europe at the moment in so many wove.— europe at the moment in so many vvove. don-i— europe at the moment in so many vvove. non-i do— europe at the moment in so many ways. don't go anywhere

it. you're listening to gb news radio . welcome radio. welcome back to neil oliver live. now i spoke earlier oiodi— oliver live. now i spoke earlier oiooi nov— oliver live. now i spoke earlier oiooi now in— (1 now i spoke earlier about how i'm convinced we're being— about how i'm convinced we're being eed— about how i'm convinced we're being messed with, pure and einnie— being messed with, pure and simplev by— being messed with, pure and simple, by those— being messed with, pure and simple, by those above us in the iood— simple, by those above us in the iood enoin— simple, by those above us in the food chain from _ simple, by those above us in the food chain from seizure of land in ine— food chain from seizure of land in the netherlands to the eednioe— in the netherlands to the eednioe oi— in the netherlands to the closure of accounts of closure of bank accounts of nnivoie— closure of bank accounts of private citizens— closure of bank accounts of private citizens here britain private citizens here in britain to private citizens here in britain io-inone— private citizens here in britain to-trans debate- private citizens here in britain to-trans debate .- private citizens here in britain to trans debate . has the to the trans debate. has the void— to the trans debate. has the vonid ieen— to the trans debate. has the world been driven mad ? here to world been driven mad? here to eoniennioie— world been driven mad? here to contemplate-of— world been driven mad? here to contemplate of that and more contemplate all of that and more is contemplate all of that and more ie iioinn— contemplate all of that and more is ralph schollhammer, professor of is ralph schollhammer, professor oi-eeienee— is ralph schollhammer, professor oi-eeienee oi— is ralph schollhammer, professor of science at webster of political science at webster dniveneiiv— of political science at webster university-it's- of political science at webster university it's great university in vienna. it's great to university in vienna. it's great io-voo— university in vienna. it's great io-vod nee,— university in vienna. it's great to you here, ralph. to have you here, ralph. thank you— to have you here, ralph. thank vod eo— to have you here, ralph. thank voo eo nnoen— to have you here, ralph. thank you so much for— to have you here, ralph. thank you so much for having me, neal. no, a pleasure. now, you and i nove— no, a pleasure. now, you and i nove enoien— no, a pleasure. now, you and i have spoken before i am very have spoken before and i am very ovonelvvnoi-e— have spoken before and i am very aware what's happening in the aware of what's happening in the deinenionde — aware of what's happening in the netherlands. first— aware of what's happening in the netherlands. first of all, the iond— netherlands. first of all, the iond doi— netherlands. first of all, the land grab-the— netherlands. first of all, the land grab the farmers. now,

land grab for the farmers. now, inie— land grab for the farmers. now, this experiment— land grab for the farmers. now, this experiment with how people midni— this experiment with how people nidni-inein— this experiment with how people might their homes and the might sell their homes and the deinenionde— might sell their homes and the netherlands being used as some eon— netherlands being used as some eoni oi— netherlands being used as some eoni oi doi— netherlands being used as some eoni oi ioi ion— netherlands being used as some sort of lab for social engineering- sort of lab for social engineering experiments. why doee— engineering experiments. why doee ii— engineering experiments. why doee ii oii— engineering experiments. why does it all happening there? i don-i— does it all happening there? i don-i inini— does it all happening there? i don't think it's— does it all happening there? i don't think it's all— does it all happening there? i don't think it's all happening there. i think what we see in there. i think what we see in the netherlands is particularly with protests, with the farmers protests, it got attention in other got more attention than in other places. you see these things places. but you see these things happening well. happening elsewhere as well. there i find this there is i mean, i find this almost hilarious, just almost hilarious, as you just mentioned, right? there's this idea the government makes idea that the government makes a law you want sell law and says you want to sell your house you kind of have your house and you kind of have to sell it to somebody from a specific socioeconomic background. are background. but while they are planning brussels, planning this in brussels, the eu working new kind of eu is working on a new kind of idea device to make homes idea and device to make homes more efficient . they want more energy efficient. they want them be twice energy them to be twice as energy efficient by 2033, and in many cases this means renovations that going cost , you that are going to cost, you know, 70 £80,000. so even if know, 70 to £80,000. so even if you want to sell your home, right, they say you cannot sell it to somebody afford it to somebody who can afford it. but even those who want to buy now saying, well, but buy are now saying, well, but i'm going to have to invest £80,000 for renovations in ten years, so i'm not going to pay a

full price unless you do full price unless either you do the renovations you reduce the renovations or you reduce the renovations or you reduce the this. you the price for this. so you again, create artificial again, create an artificial housing shortage because those who want to buy are going to say we those who going to we wait. those who are going to sell to say wait. sell are going to say we wait. and then you create an and then can you create an artificial crisis that is artificial crisis that then is going be for yet another going to be used for yet another regulation and then regulation right. and then they're well, then they're going to say, well, then people who apartments that people who have apartments that they're they to they're not used, they have to rent them, they have to sell them. so it always comes back to a grab in all these areas. a power grab in all these areas. and isn't it the case this and isn't it the case that this oniv— and isn't it the case that this oniv onniiee— and isn't it the case that this oniv onniiee io— and isn't it the case that this only applies to properties up to | assoooe— only applies to properties up to | essoooe so— ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirely - ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirely coincidentally,— - ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirthatoincidentally,_ - ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirthatoincideithat(,_ . ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirthatoincideithat that— ,355,000? so you know, handily, entirthatoincideithat that the sure that means that that the ioee— sure that means that that the houses belonging to most of the neonie— houses belonging to most of the neonie in— houses belonging to most of the neonie in none— houses belonging to most of the people in power won't be oiieeied. — people in power won't be affected. as— people in power won't be affected. ' people in power won't be affected. as always. as always. right. it's like with inflation adaptation, these things right in brussels , you always have in brussels, you always have these adaptions they're these adaptions that they're safe . or just to give another safe. orjust to give another example, are told be aware example, we are told to be aware of and emissions. of climate change and emissions. the parliament has two the eu parliament has two parliaments, right? because the belgians and the french could not decide to where put it. so they kind of go and

they kind of go back and forth and well, you and we are told, well, you should take the bus. you shouldn't fly, right? you shouldn't fly, right? you shouldn't a car. is that an shouldn't have a car. is that an end you shouldn't have a car. is that an end-yon eee— shouldn't have a car. is that an end-you see, it's- shouldn't have a car. is that an end-you see, it's there'sl end game? you see, it's there's been— end game? you see, it's there's been more attention paid to the neinenionde— been more attention paid to the netherlands, actually netherlands, but it's actually eieevnene— netherlands, but it's actually eiiinie. — netherlands, but it's actually eiiinie. ie — netherlands, but it's actually elrthis. is there— netherlands, but it's actually elrthis. is there a is there of this. is there a is there a eoneneni,— of this. is there a is there a coherent, however unwanted end done— coherent, however unwanted end done io— coherent, however unwanted end done io oii— coherent, however unwanted end done io oii oi— coherent, however unwanted end game to all of this— coherent, however unwanted end game to all of this social enoineenind— game to all of this social engineering that's going on? inie— engineering that's going on? inie ie— engineering that's going on? this is something— engineering that's going on? this is something when- engineering that's going on? this is something when we when we might slightly disagree because and i'm not sure if i'm right or wrong on this, to be honest, but one of the is this really there's a plan, right? there's a structure behind it. my there's a structure behind it. my probably a little bit more frustrating since is that they really are incompetent, right? they're solving they're incompetent at solving the i mean, just the bigger issues. i mean, just an at an example, if you look at france the moment, they france at the moment, they pretty much botched everything they energy immigration, they could. energy immigration, they could. energy immigration, the and so everything. the economy and so everything. so now start to want to so they now start to want to manage the smaller and smaller and smaller of our lives and smaller details of our lives because that they because they think that they can do it's something you you do right. it's something you you are not to capable are uncovered not to be capable of something you want of doing something so you want to ever more and more to to do ever more and more to finally prove how good you actually so i think a actually are. so i think it's a combination they

combination of, of that they overestimate themselves, yet they have a certain incompetence. is it possible to be incompetence. is it possible to ioe—ine- be that incompetent all the inei— be that incompetent all the iinei i— be that incompetent all the time? i mean,— be that incompetent all the time? i mean, even a stopped doci— time? i mean, even a stopped dock-ine— time? i mean, even a stopped clock-the right- time? i mean, even a stopped clock the right time twice clock tells the right time twice a clock tells the right time twice o-inini— clock tells the right time twice o-inini evenv- clock tells the right time twice a-think every now- clock tells the right time twice a think every now and a day. you think every now and odoin— a day. you think every now and odoin-vooid— a day. you think every now and again-would get- a day. you think every now and again would get something again they would get something big, again they would get something bison—you- again they would get something did—ven one- big, right? i give you one example. the main big, right? jg nine? the main paul big, right? i give you one- example. the main paul coyte joeenn— example. the main paul coyte joeenn-nidni.- example. the main paul coyte joseph-right. the- nix? the main paul coyte joseph right. the main joseph borrell, right. the main neeon— joseph borrell, right. the main person responsible for the onion— person responsible for the ioneidn-ine- person responsible for the- foreign -the european foreign policy of the european union— foreign policy of the european. union—ideeio union recently mixed up russia ond— union recently mixed up russia ond-iddni— union recently mixed up russia ond-iiidni so— union recently mixed up russia and-right so that- union recently mixed up russia and right so that tells and serbia. right so that tells you,— and serbia. right so that tells von i— and serbia. right so that tells youv i inini— and serbia. right so that tells you, i think all— and serbia. right so that tells you, i think all you have to know— you, i think all you have to know-non— you, i think all you have to know-man has- you, i think all you have to know-man has a- you, i think all you have to know man has a cabinet, a know this man has a cabinet, a eioii— know this man has a cabinet, a eioii inoi— know this man has a cabinet, a eioii inoi ve — know this man has a cabinet, a staff that we could— know this man has a cabinet, a staff that we could just dream of. staff that we could just dream oi. and— staff that we could just dream oi. and inev— staff that we could just dream of. and they apparently either onnoi— of. and they apparently either cannot brief— of. and they apparently either cannot brief him _ of. and they apparently either cannot brief him or he doesn't neod— cannot brief him or he doesn't neod ine— cannot brief him or he doesn't read the briefings— cannot brief him or he doesn't read the briefings he doesn't read the briefings or he doesn't inv— read the briefings or he doesn't care. my argument you're care. so my argument is, you're noni— care. so my argument is, you're right—at- care. so my argument is, you're right—at ieoei- right, the clock is at least noni— right, the clock is at least nidni iviee— right, the clock is at least right twice a— right, the clock is at least right twice a day with the bureaucracy— right twice a day with the bureaucracy in— right twice a day with the bureaucracy in brussels. i'm not eo-nve enen- bureaucracy in brussels. i'm not sure-have such a- sure if they have such a successful— sure if they have such a successful track record. qt: successful track record. one inind— successful track record. one inind inni— successful track record. one inind inoi i— successful track record. one thing that i was— successful track record. one thing that i was thinking, though, you we're talking though, you know, we're talking about, or is it about, is there a plan or is it just incompetence? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlikejmpetence? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike ajpetence? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike a bit ence? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike a bit of :e? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike a bit of a? it feels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike a bit of a mixfeels to about, is there a plan or is it justlike a bit of a mix because me like a bit of a mix because i think, you know, it seems to me that there are people with with some of a plan. some of it some sort of a plan. some of it comes through the world economic forum, which i think is a bit like bringing in mckenzies into your basically like bringing in mckenzies into yourit, basically like bringing in mckenzies into yourit, know, basically like bringing in mckenzies into yourit, know, because :ally ruin it, you know, because

that's what these consultants tend so you've got this tend to do. so you've got this this plan. they're telling some ideas to various people in power. and then the people in power. and then the people in power try to implement this. but but do it very badly. or the idea was very bad in the first place, you know. but i think it's absolutely— place, you know. but i think it's absolutely right.- f but i think it's absolutely right. right. decodee— it's absolutely right. right. decodee ii— it's absolutely right. right. because if you _ it's absolutely right. right. because if you have these eondiiione— because if you have these conditions that— because if you have these conditions that we just described,— conditions that we just described, opens conditions that we just described,.opens for described, it opens the door for all described, it opens the door for oii kinde— described, it opens the door for all kinds.grifters_ described, it opens the door for all kinds grifters and those all kinds of grifters and those nno— all kinds of grifters and those nno-oi— all kinds of grifters and those nno-oi noni— all kinds of grifters and those who of want piggyback who kind of want to piggyback off who kind of want to piggyback oii ineee— who kind of want to piggyback off these _and - who kind of want to piggyback off these _and i- who kind of want to piggyback. off these _and i mean, off these agendas. and i mean, kinde— off these agendas. and i mean, klaus schwab and he's either this kind of quote unquote, evil genius world's most genius or he's the world's most successful he just successful grifter. he just jumped on this bandwagon. ofsted. and you know, he's basically sometimes like when he's at home with his family, i mean, they at some point mean, they must at some point think this be real, think like this can't be real, right? they everything they pubushis right? they everything they publish is more absurd. like, i think the recent piece they think the most recent piece they had i think have to, had is that i think we have to, to the number of available to halve the number of available cars the planet by half in cars on the planet by half in the next, i think 50 or 25 years. that's madness. it's never going to happen . we were never going to happen. we were speaking earlier— never going to happen. we were speaking earlier ,_ never going to happen. we were speaking earlier , jasmine- go 9 " we were speaking earlier , jasmine inaya, speaking earlier, jasmine inaya, oiooi— speaking earlier, jasmine inaya, oiooi nnoi— speaking earlier, jasmine inaya, about what happened to colleague

videi— about what happened to colleague videi nonde— about what happened to colleague videi nonode on— about what happened to colleague nigel farage on his— about what happened to colleague nigel farage on his bank account. shut— nigel farage on his bank account. shut down. how are we now— account. shut down. how are we now nodd— account. shut down. how are we now vodid vod— account. shut down. how are we how would you read that as a as a how would you read that as a as o nnoeiiee— how would you read that as a as o nnoeiiee by— how would you read that as a as a practise by these— how would you read that as a as a practise by these whatever stakeholder— a practise by these whatever stakeholder capitalists that inoi— stakeholder capitalists that inoi oe— stakeholder capitalists that that as carlos— stakeholder capitalists that that as carlos schwab describes inen— that as carlos schwab describes inen, vvnv— that as carlos schwab describes inen, vvnv oe— that as carlos schwab describes them, why are they what kind of enoi— them, why are they what kind of enoi oo— them, why are they what kind of shot across the _ them, why are they what kind of shot across the bows for the denenoi— shot across the bows for the general population is that i inini— general population is that i think that's— general population is that i think that's that's a very serious issue. - think that's that's a very serious issue. i think that's much more like a much more dangerous than we than we think. and we saw something similar, if you guys remember, the you guys remember, with the truckers in canada. right? they you guys remember, with the trucithe in canada. right? they you guys remember, with the trucithe go canada. right? they you guys remember, with the trucithe go fundia. right? they you guys remember, with the trucithe go fund metight? they you guys remember, with the trucithe go fund me thing they you guys remember, with the trucithe go fund me thing and! you guys remember, with the trucithe go fund me thing and all had the go fund me thing and all of sudden go fund said, of a sudden go fund me said, well, we're not going to give them the money. we give it to something we think charity something that we think charity should this. should go to. so imagine this. you to a cause, right? you donate to a cause, right? and organisation says, and then the organisation says, thank you so much, jasmine, for what us, we're what you gave us, but we're going to somebody going to give it to somebody else. but if you bank someone, right, you cannot participate in life no atm, no life anymore, right? no atm, no credit your business. we credit card. your business. we no exchange cash no longer exchange cash for eenvieee— no longer exchange cash for eenvieee-vod- no longer exchange cash forj services,-you cannot services, right? you cannot transfer this is very transfer money. this is very dangerous. i like dangerous. and i think like banks private companies, banks and private companies, they play along to get they kind of play along to get along. and what along. and we see what governments they

governments do, right. they don't lot, but they lean don't make a lot, but they lean on they well, you on you. they say, well, you know, this person seems a little bit unsafe, so maybe you shouldn't do business with them. and of the unspoken shouldn't do business with them. and is of the unspoken shouldn't do business with them. and is else. the unspoken shouldn't do business with them. and is else. butinspoken shouldn't do business with them. and is else. but alsojken shouldn't do business with them. and is else. but also with part is or else. but also with cide— part is or else. but also with dec central— part is or else. but also with dec central bank— but also with dec central bank digital currencies,— dec central bank digital currencies, they even have currencies, they don't even have to currencies, they don't even have io-inev— currencies, they don't even have io-inev on— currencies, they don't even have io-inev do- currencies, they don't even have to they can do what to do that. they can do what inev— to do that. they can do what inev do— to do that. they can do what inev do in— to do that. they can do what they do in china— to do that. they can do what they do in china if they don't dike— they do in china if they don't dike-vod-ve— they do in china if they don't like _you've just- they do in china if they don't like you've just been like what you've just been eovind—onl like what you've just been. eovind—on vod like what you've just been- saying_oh, you are saying and they go, oh, you are a saying and they go, oh, you are o enininoi. — saying and they go, oh, you are a criminal. you— saying and they go, oh, you are a criminal. you can't a a criminal. you can't have a ioni— a criminal. you can't have a ioni oeoni— a criminal. you can't have a bank account, you can't have you eon-i— bank account, you can't have you ooni-o— bank account, you can't have you eon-i-o ieien— bank account, you can't have you can't-a ticket, you- bank account, you can't have you can't a ticket, you can't can't buy a ticket, you can't onvinind— can't buy a ticket, you can't onvinind dike— can't buy a ticket, you can't anything like that. is that, ien-i— anything like that. is that, ien-i ii?— anything like that. is that, isn't it? it's— anything like that. is that, isn't it? it's this it's the e56. it's isn't it? it's this it's the esg. it's the income esg. it's the it's the income coming the chinese social coming of the chinese social credit system other name. credit system by any other name. yeah, it is. it's your behaviour being monitored with consequences exactly. consequences attached. exactly. as you're a as you say, if you're a onininoi— as you say, if you're a criminal, think we as you say, if you're a criminal,ithink we have criminal, i think we could have a conversation that. but a conversation about that. but i inini— a conversation about that. but i inini-doind— a conversation about that. but i think-going-things. think it's going to be things dike— think it's going to be things iiie vod— think it's going to be things like you hold— think it's going to be things like you hold the wrong opinion, denie— like you hold the wrong opinion, nidnie-o— like you hold the wrong opinion, nidnii-o eione- like you hold the wrong opinion, right?-a store and- like you hold the wrong opinion, right? a store and you right? you go to a store and you buy— right? you go to a store and you buy o— right? you go to a store and you buy o ioiiie— right? you go to a store and you buy o ioiiie oi— right? you go to a store and you buy a bottle of wine and all of a buy a bottle of wine and all of o eddden— buy a bottle of wine and all of o eddden ii— buy a bottle of wine and all of a sudden it says,— buy a bottle of wine and all of a sudden it says, you know, you ioddni— a sudden it says, you know, you ioddni ine— a sudden it says, you know, you bought the bottle— a sudden it says, you know, you bought the bottle of wine, but you— bought the bottle of wine, but vod oieo— bought the bottle of wine, but you also yesterday you you also yesterday donated, you know,— you also yesterday donated, you know, _cause that - you also yesterday donated, you know, cause that we know, to some cause that we don-i— know, to some cause that wej don't—donating don't think is worth donating to. don't think is worth donating io-i— don't think is worth donating io-i kind— don't think is worth donating io-i kind oi— don't think is worth donating to.-i kind of was- don't think is worth donating to. i kind of was more to. so i'm i kind of was more oniinieiie— to. so i'm i kind of was more optimistic-this.-in| optimistic about this. but in ine— optimistic about this. but in ine-oi— optimistic about this. but in the-of currency- optimistic about this. but in the of currency what's the realm of currency what's going— the realm of currency what's going-happen— the realm of currency what's going-happen i- the realm of currency what's going happen i this

going to happen i find this a venv— going to happen i find this a very venv— going to happen i find this a very, very dangerous development ieeodee— very, very dangerous development ieeodee ion— very, very dangerous development ieeodee ion ne— very, very dangerous development because for me, the— very, very dangerous development because for me, the freedom to inoneoei—evenvi transact it trumps almost every oinen. —i- transact it trumps almost every other. _i never. other. and like you, i never used to question it. you know, you just assumed, well, that's my but no, it is being my right. but no, it is being eroded. and think a lot of eroded. and i think a lot of people beginning realise people are beginning to realise this, why we're seeing this, which is why we're seeing cash lot more cash being used a lot more certainly country. i'm certainly in this country. i'm being told we're out of- being told we're out of time on ine— being told we're out of time on inie. vie-ne— being told we're out of time on this. we're always— being told we're out of time on this. we're always out of time ond— this. we're always out of time ond evenvinind.— this. we're always out of time and everything. thanks so and everything. ralph, thanks so noon. — and everything. ralph, thanks so noon. -vod— and everything. ralph, thanks so noon. -vod eo— and everything. ralph, thanks so much. _you so much- much. thank you so much for having me thanks having me much. thanks a conversation. meeting you. conversation. great meeting you. thank you so much thank you. thank you so much elsewhere. you so elsewhere. thank you so much. thank up, we'll be thank you. coming up, we'll be enoiiind— thank you. coming up, we'll be chatting.ethicist_ thank you. coming up, we'll be chatting.ethicist dr.- chatting to ethicist dr. calum iiiiien— chatting to ethicist dr. calum miller investigation miller after an investigation iodnd—

all families, we have arguments evenv— all families, we have arguments evenv nov— all families, we have arguments evenv ond— all families, we have arguments every now and then . but every now and then. but oeiooiiv— every now and then. but actually, we— every now and then. but actually, we agree on what the ieion— actually, we agree on what the oi— actually, we agree on what the mission of gb— actually, we agree on what the mission of gb news is. and inoi-e— mission of gb news is. and inoi-e ine— mission of gb news is. and that's the most— mission of gb news is. and that's the most .- mission of gb news is. and that's the most . welcome back. that's the most. welcome back. it's that's the most. welcome back. no my— that's the most. welcome back. it's my contention— that's the most. welcome back. it's my contention that- that's the most. welcome back. it's my contention that the- it's my contention that the people of the west are being nudged into line with an ideology and unbending and intolerant ideology . obe. the intolerant ideology. obe. the more i watch and read, the more question i have he to answer. some of them is medical doctor,

ethicist and philosopher dr. calum miller. thank you for coming in. calum . i sense the coming in. calum. i sense the people of the west are increasingly unhappy , rattling increasingly unhappy, rattling with antidepressants and anxieties of one sort or another. what say you? absolutely . i another. what say you? absolutely. i mean, absolutely . i mean, we've another. what say you? - absolutely . i mean, we've seen absolutely. i mean, we've seen nenioi— absolutely. i mean, we've seen mental health— absolutely. i mean, we've seen mental health problems explode ine— mental health problems explode ine ioei— mental health problems explode over the last few— mental health problems explode over the last few decades for a vvnoie — over the last few decades for a whole number— over the last few decades for a whole number of— over the last few decades for a whole number of reasons. it's venv— whole number of reasons. it's venv eonnien— whole number of reasons. it's very complex. there's no one eindie— very complex. there's no one eindie eodee— very complex. there's no one single cause. but,— very complex. there's no one single cause. but, you know, vvnen— single cause. but, you know, vvnen vod— single cause. but, you know, when you look— single cause. but, you know, when you look at— single cause. but, you know, when you look at the mental neoiin— when you look at the mental neoiin oi— when you look at the mental health of-people- when you look at the mental health of people in health of young people in noniedion— health of young people in particular,-just- health of young people in particular, just gone. you particular, it's just gone. you know,— particular, it's just gone. you know,-downhill- particular, it's just gone. you know, downhill over know, hugely downhill over the ioei—dnd- know, hugely downhill over the ioei—and ii-e- know, hugely downhill over the last—and it's veryi last few decades. and it's very eoneennind — last few decades. and it's very concerning. course, there last few decades. and it's very con manyg. course, there last few decades. and it's very con many things course, there last few decades. and it's very con many things in course, there last few decades. and it's very con many things in society there last few decades. and it's very con many things in society which are many things in society which we eodid— are many things in society which we eooid ie— are many things in society which we could be doing— are many things in society which we could be doing to help, but we're refusing— we could be doing to help, but we're refusing-do- we could be doing to help, but we're refusing do because it we're refusing to do because it midni— we're refusing to do because it might-politically- might be politically inconvenient might be politically inconvenand some ways might be politically— inconvenandlsome ways we're reasons. and in some ways we're noiind— reasons. and in some ways we're noiind ii— reasons. and in some ways we're nonind ii noen— reasons. and in some ways we're making it much, much worse. vvnoi— making it much, much worse. vinoi vodid— making it much, much worse. what would-things- making it much, much worse. what would _things be. making it much, much worse. i what would _things be that what would those things be that could improve the could readily improve the situation? so i think, you know, eoeioi— situation? so i think, you know, eoeioi-ie— situation? so i think, you know, eoeioi-ie o— situation? so i think, you know, social-is a hugely- social media is a hugely innononi— social media is a hugely- important—factor. important contributing factor. and—neonie-ei and limiting young people's. oeeeeeon—di access to social media. i don't know— access to social media. i don't inovv evoeiiv— access to social media. i don't know exactly-do - access to social media. i don't know exactly do that, know exactly how to do that, in. — know exactly how to do that, noi, .inovv — know exactly how to do that, but, know, clearly giving but, you know, clearly giving inen — but, you know, clearly giving them smartphones they're them smartphones when they're five them smartphones when they're iive—ineni five years old and telling them to five years old and telling them io-ineiodnon,— five years old and telling them to-instagram, it's- five years old and telling them to instagram, it's not to go on instagram, it's not going— to go on instagram, it's not doing—noenl to go on instagram, it's not. doing—noon. and going to help very much. and inen—oe— going to help very much. and then,-as we're- going to help very much. and then, as we're here going to help very much. and. then,-as we're here to then, you know, as we're here to idi— then, you know, as we're here to ioii oiodi— then, you know, as we're here to

talk about today,— then, you know, as we're here to talk about today, there's this ieeoe— talk about today, there's this vnene— talk about today, there's this issue where instead of trying to eoive— issue where instead of trying to solve-problems- solve those problems and figure out solve those problems and figure ooi—neoiinl out solutions to mental health difficulties,— out solutions to mental health difficulties, basically difficulties, we're basically ieiiind—dnl difficulties, we're basically. telling—up. we're telling them to give up. we're ioeieoiiv— telling them to give up. we're ioeieoiiv-,— telling them to give up. we're ioeieoiiv-, n- telling them to give up. we're basically-, if your- telling them to give up. we're basically , if your life's basically saying, if your life's inoi— basically saying, if your life's inoi iod— basically saying, if your life's that bad, actually maybe you enodid—dnd- that bad, actually maybe you should _and so,| should kill yourself. and so, veon— should kill yourself. and so, veon-ie— should kill yourself. and so, yeah, is something. yeah, which is something. aieoidieiv. — yeah, which is something. absolutely. _that'sl absolutely. i mean, that's antithetical. again , what antithetical. that's again, what the human species, if you're encouraging people who are going through to take through a bad patch just to take an injection or a pill and call it quits, where are we as a species , literally inhumane? i species, literally inhumane? i mean, it's literally, as you say,— mean, it's literally, as you say eovind— mean, it's literally, as you say eovind io— mean, it's literally, as you say, saying to people your life is say, saying to people your life ie noi— say, saying to people your life ie noi vonin — say, saying to people your life is not worth it.— say, saying to people your life is not worth it. you as a human being— is not worth it. you as a human being oe— is not worth it. you as a human being noi— is not worth it. you as a human being are not worth it. just nn— being are not worth it. just kill yourself— being are not worth it. just kill yourself whether you're a bit kill yourself whether you're a iii onnonnv— kill yourself whether you're a iii onnonnv on— kill yourself whether you're a bit unhappy or very unhappy or in ine— bit unhappy or very unhappy or in ine oe— bit unhappy or very unhappy or in the case in— bit unhappy or very unhappy or in the case in canada, poor. i mean, canada's— in the case in canada, poor. i mean, canada's gone bananas or in ine— mean, canada's gone bananas or in the netherlands— mean, canada's gone bananas or in the netherlands autistic. vvnoi— in the netherlands autistic. vinoi nondi— in the netherlands autistic. what moral, ethical- what moral, ethical justification is there for that ? idon't justification is there for that ? i don't think there is any good— ? i don't think there is any good joeiiiving— 7’ i don't think there is any good justifying action. i mean, nnoi— good justifying action. i mean, vnoi vod— good justifying action. i mean, what you normally find with edinonoeio— what you normally find with euthanasia is— what you normally find with euthanasia is either you go the vnoie— euthanasia is either you go the vvnoie nov— euthanasia is either you go the vvnoie vov ond— euthanasia is either you go the whole way and just say anyone vno— whole way and just say anyone vno-io— whole way and just say anyone nno-io nn— whole way and just say anyone who to kill themselves can who wants to kill themselves can kill themselves— who wants to kill themselves can kill themselves that's kill themselves and that's eonnieieiv— kill themselves and that's- completely—course, completely fine. and of course, you— completely fine. and of course, vod know,— completely fine. and of course, voo inovv-neonie- completely fine. and of course, you know, people think you know, some people think

inoi-e— you know, some people think that's-because- you know, some people think that's because it's about that's okay because it's about oniononv— that's okay because it's about ooiononvlinev— that's okay because it's about autonomy. they say, if autonomy. so they say, if you noni— autonomy. so they say, if you vvoniliiii— autonomy. so they say, if you want kill yourself, kill want to kill yourself, kill vooneeii. — want to kill yourself, kill yourself. now,- want to kill yourself, kill yourself. now, i've worked in nevenioinv.— yourself. now, i've worked in psychiatry -tbat - yourself. now, i've worked in psychiatry. that when psychiatry. i know that when neonie— psychiatry. i know that when people-commit- psychiatry. i know that when people commit suicide, people try to commit suicide, we oedoiiv— people try to commit suicide, we can usually help— people try to commit suicide, we can usually help and can usually help them. and inoi-e— can usually help them. and inoi-e-ine- can usually help them. and. that's,-the humane that's, of course, the humane ining— that's, of course, the humane thing-wouldn't- thing to do. we wouldn't even deonn — thing to do. we wouldn't even deonn -in— thing to do. we wouldn't even dream.-in most- dream. i think, in most eeiiinge— dream. i think, in most settings, to— dream. i think, in most settings, to encourage them and say settings, to encourage them and eov-igni— settings, to encourage them and say-right choice.- settings, to encourage them and say right choice. go say that's the right choice. go oneod.— say that's the right choice. go oneod. and— say that's the right choice. go ahead. and yet— say that's the right choice. go ahead. and yet there's this huge move-increasingly- ahead. and yet there's this huge move increasingly in move in society, increasingly in the-profession- move in society, increasingly in ine-nnoieeeion .- move in society, increasingly in the-profession , to- move in society, increasingly in the profession , to say, the medical profession, to say, oeiooiiv— the medical profession, to say, oeiooiivlie— the medical profession, to say, actually,.is-bad- the medical profession, to say, actually,.is-bad .- the medical profession, to say, actually, is bad . and actually, it is that bad. and now-mentioned- actually, it is that bad. and now mentioned the actually, it is that bad. and now-mentioned the of now you mentioned the issue of dieoiiiiiv— now you mentioned the issue of disability alternative to disability. the alternative to jdei— disability. the alternative to jdei-onvone- disability. the alternative to just-anyone can- disability. the alternative to just anyone can kill just saying anyone can kill themselves— just saying anyone can kill themselves-to- just saying anyone can kill themselves to up a sort themselves is to set up a sort of themselves is to set up a sort oi ivo— themselves is to set up a sort oi ivo iien— themselves is to set up a sort of two tier system, a sort of eioee— of two tier system, a sort of eioee eveien— of two tier system, a sort of class system where we say to the neonie— class system where we say to the neonie-neoiinv- class system where we say to the neonie-neoiinv on- class system where we say to the people healthy or who people who are healthy or who don-i— people who are healthy or who don-i-o— people who are healthy or who don't-a terminal- people who are healthy or who don't a terminal disability don't have a terminal disability or don't have a terminal disability on vvnoieven— don't have a terminal disability or whatever, actually your life is or whatever, actually your life ie vonin — or whatever, actually your life is worth preserving and you enooidn-i— is worth preserving and you shouldn't—to. is worth preserving and youi shouldn't—to kill shouldn't be allowed to kill vooneeii— shouldn't be allowed to kill yourself because life is yourself because your life is nonin— yourself because your life is vvonin-ii— yourself because your life is worth-if-have- worth it. but if you have a dieoiiiiiv— worth it. but if you have a disability, if— worth it. but if you have a disability, if you're autistic, movie— disability, if you're autistic, novie ii— disability, if you're autistic, novie ii vod— disability, if you're autistic, maybe if you have down syndrome, you maybe if you have down syndrome, voo—diiiieoiiv- maybe if you have down syndrome, vod—diiiiediiv .- you have a learning difficulty. aeiooiiv— you have a learning difficulty. deiooiiv, in— you have a learning difficulty. actually, in that— you have a learning difficulty. actually, in that case, you enooid — actually, in that case, you should _thatl should kill yourself. that neoiiv— should kill yourself. that really-reality.- should kill yourself. that really reality. they really is the reality. they non-i— really is the reality. they vvon-i-iiie- really is the reality. they won't like that, really is the reality. they won't-like that, that won't say it like that, but that is won't say it like that, but that ie—eeeing— won't say it like that, but that ie—eeeing in- won't say it like that, but that is seeing in places is what we're seeing in places dike— is what we're seeing in places dike-ond— is what we're seeing in places like and netherlands, like canada and netherlands, neigidn— like canada and netherlands, neigidn-and- like canada and netherlands, belgium _and you. like canada and netherlands,- belgium _and you cannot belgium all over. and you cannot help the notion of help but invoke the notion of eugenics are one way or eugenics that you are one way or

another suggesting that there's another suggesting that there's a desirable human being and an undesirable human being, and that we should winnow the one away from the other? absolutely. i mean, i away from the other? - absolutely. i mean, i don't want to absolutely. i mean, i don't want io eov— absolutely. i mean, i don't want io saylfirstv_ absolutely. i mean, i don't want to saylfirst, but— absolutely. i mean, i don't want to say first, but since you to say it first, but since you neniioned— to say it first, but since you mentioned it,— to say it first, but since you mentioned it, you know, in mentioned it, it's you know, in a mentioned it, it's you know, in ovvene-n— mentioned it, it's you know, in a-where we're so- mentioned it, it's you know, in a where we're so acutely a world where we're so acutely nvneneeneiiive— a world where we're so acutely hypersensitive to, _ a world where we're so acutely hypersensitive to, you know , you hypersensitive to, you know, you get-a — hypersensitive to, you know, you gei-o jdei— hypersensitive to, you know, you gei-o joei ion— hypersensitive to, you know, you get a just for believing get called a just for believing in—dove- get called a just for believing in—dove vvnoi-ei in biology these days. what's nenonioiie— in biology these days. what's remarkable is— in biology these days. what's remarkable is that there remarkable is that when there are remarkable is that when there one-ininge— remarkable is that when there are-things that- are actually things that iiienoiiv— are actually things that literally are— are actually things that literally are what the did , like literally are what the did, like kidding— literally are what the did, like killing disabled— literally are what the did, like killing disabled people , you killing disabled people, you know,— killing disabled people, you know, neonie— killing disabled people, you know, people are all for it. i mean, not everyone is for it. cenioiniv— mean, not everyone is for it. certainly most— mean, not everyone is for it. certainly most palliative care doeione— certainly most palliative care doeione i— certainly most palliative care doctors, i think— certainly most palliative care doctors, i think 90% are against eoiionoeio— doctors, i think 90% are against euthanasia. so— doctors, i think 90% are against euthanasia. so there's significant— euthanasia. so there's significant resistance within nonv— significant resistance within nonv-oi— significant resistance within many of society, many parts of society, particularly- many parts of society, particularly the particularly particularly the nedieoi— particularly particularly the medical profession. but like you say .— medical profession. but like you eov , vod— medical profession. but like you eov , voo know,— medical profession. but like you say , you know, one of the ways say, you know, one of the ways ine— say, you know, one of the ways the desensitised_ say, you know, one of the ways the desensitised themselves to the desensitised themselves to ine ending— the desensitised themselves to ine ending oi— the desensitised themselves to the ending of human life was inev— the ending of human life was inev eionied— the ending of human life was they started with disabled neonie— they started with disabled neonie. inev— they started with disabled people. they had a huge euthanasia— people. they had a huge euthanasia campaign. and it was nneeieeiv— euthanasia campaign. and it was precisely because— euthanasia campaign. and it was precisely because of that that we inodgni— precisely because of that that we inoogni in— precisely because of that that we brought in this rights we brought in this human rights inonevoni— we brought in this human rights framework-says— we brought in this human rights framework says everyone has framework that says everyone has the framework that says everyone has ine nigni— framework that says everyone has ine nigni io— framework that says everyone has the right to life,— framework that says everyone has the right to life, which must be nnoieeied— the right to life, which must be nnoieeied-in— the right to life, which must be protected-in an- protected in an in an increasingly- protected in an in an- increasingly-atheist increasingly secular atheist vveeienn— increasingly secular atheist western society .

increasingly secular atheist western society. i:i:::i increasingly secular atheist western society . i:i:::i western society. motty do you think we ism is becoming a kind of a parasite zombie alternative to religion, something for people to obey and potentially worship? i people to obey and potentially worship ? i think so. i mean, it worship? i think so. i mean, it noe— worship? i think so. i mean, it noe oii— worship? i think so. i mean, it noe oii ine— 37 i think so. i mean, it has all the hallmarks of neiigion— has all the hallmarks of neiigion vod— has all the hallmarks of religion you see in terms of, vod— religion you see in terms of, vod know,— religion you see in terms of, voo know, ine— religion you see in terms of, you know, the taboos, the eiignoe— you know, the taboos, the stigmas things. you're not oiioved— stigmas things. you're not oiioved io— stigmas things. you're not allowed to say,- stigmas things. you're not allowed to say, things that conni— allowed to say, things that eooni oe— allowed to say, things that count as blasphemy. me, you know,— count as blasphemy. me, you onoe-goi— count as blasphemy. me, you inovv-goi nid— count as blasphemy. me, you know, got rid blasphemy know, we've got rid of blasphemy ione— know, we've got rid of blasphemy laws-reintroduced- know, we've got rid of blasphemy laws reintroduced hate laws and we've reintroduced hate eneeen—ie— laws and we've reintroduced hate speech _is basically. speech laws, which is basically the speech laws, which is basically ine—viin— speech laws, which is basically ine—viin o- speech laws, which is basically the with a different the same thing with a different ood— the same thing with a different ood. vod— the same thing with a different god. you know,— the same thing with a different god. you know, we have festivals to god. you know, we have festivals io ine— god. you know, we have festivals to the religions.— god. you know, we have festivals to the religions. have high to the religions. we have high nnieeie— to the religions. we have high nnieeie inoi— to the religions. we have high priests that you _ to the religions. we have high priests that you can't criticise . vie— priests that you can't criticise . vie nove— priests that you can't criticise . vie nove, vod— priests that you can't criticise . we have, you know, strict nniee— . we have, you know, strict noiee ond— . we have, you know, strict rules and regulations that you get cancelled— rules and regulations that you get cancelled if— rules and regulations that you get cancelled if you sin. i ii— get cancelled if you sin. i mean, it really- get cancelled if you sin. i mean, it really is. i think non— mean, it really is. i think humans are— mean, it really is. i think humans are innately religious neonie— humans are innately religious neonie .— humans are innately religious neonie . ii-e— humans are innately religious people . it's some people people. it's just some people vonenin— people. it's just some people worship supernature god and worship a supernature god and eone-vonenin- worship a supernature god and some worship some some people worship some ideoiogv— some people worship some ideoiogv. so— some people worship some ideology. so yeah, absolutely. one— ideology. so yeah, absolutely. one oi— ideology. so yeah, absolutely. one oi my— ideology. so yeah, absolutely. one of my problems- ideology. so yeah, absolutely. one of my problems with- one of my problems with euthanasia has always been kind of the. miss marple element of it really, that you have an elderly relative who's not 100% maybe, and it's very easy,

particularly if they've got all sorts of money for their relatives to help them on the way, saying, well, it's what she would have wanted. and i think once you once you go over the line of enabling any body with any issue to kill themselves or be killed and there's nothing to stop you really, honestly, after that. but don't there's also, as in eo— that. but don't there's also, as in eo nonv— that. but don't there's also, as in so many cases— but don't there's also, as in so many cases where a where a eioie— in so many cases where a where a eioie ie— in so many cases where a where a eioie ie ienign— in so many cases where a where a state is benign, you— in so many cases where a where a state is benign, you might make the state is benign, you might make ine oe— state is benign, you might make ine inoi— state is benign, you might make the case that you— state is benign, you might make the case that you would have a ineedon— the case that you would have a ineedon io— the case that you would have a freedom to do— the case that you would have a freedom to do whatever you want. noi. — freedom to do whatever you want. noi. noi— freedom to do whatever you want. noi. noi eioiee— freedom to do whatever you want. but. but states are— freedom to do whatever you want. but. but states are never benign ond— but. but states are never benign ond inene-e— but. but states are never benign and there's always— but. but states are never benign and there's always an agenda or and there's always an agenda or on ideoiogv— and there's always an agenda or on ideoiogv. and— and there's always an agenda or an ideology. and if— and there's always an agenda or an ideology. and if getting rid of undesirable— an ideology. and if getting rid of undesirable people is part of inoi— of undesirable people is part of inoi ideoiogv— of undesirable people is part of that ideology, then anyone and eveonenv— that ideology, then anyone and eveonenv ie— that ideology, then anyone and eveonenv ie oi— that ideology, then anyone and everyone is at risk. will that ideology, then anyone and everyone is at risk. vinita everyone is at risk. well, what i often say about this topic in particular is most people who support bringing a euthanasia support bringing in a euthanasia to it from good motivations . to do it from good motivations. i actually doubt that. i don't actually doubt that. i think many that think there are many things that people to bring in for bad people want to bring in for bad reasons euthanasia, think, is reasons euthanasia, i think, is mostly but the mostly well intentioned, but the problem it's so easily problem is that it's so easily

and that's issue . you know, and that's the issue. you know, when bring euthanasia, when you bring in euthanasia, it's that will it's inevitable that there will be economic for it in be economic reasons for it in future. know that in oregon, future. we know that in oregon, a significant proportion of people just people have euthanasia just because financial because they cite financial reasons. you know, reasons. in canada, you know, like some people have like you say, some people have said to in hospital, we can't afford give you cancer afford to give you a cancer treatment, we can offer you treatment, but we can offer you euthanasia. know, euthanasia. and, you know, people say being people like you say being euthanized they can't euthanized because they can't get welfare support. get the right welfare support. so and also, there an so and also, isn't there an ieeoe— so and also, isn't there an ieeoelongon— so and also, isn't there an issue organ harvesting as issue of organ harvesting as wan— issue of organ harvesting as vveiii i— issue of organ harvesting as vveiii i neon— issue of organ harvesting as well? i mean, this is a very, venv— well? i mean, this is a very, venv vonnving— well? i mean, this is a very, very worrying thing that, you know— very worrying thing that, you inovv .— very worrying thing that, you know , healthy,— very worrying thing that, you know , healthy, maybe know, healthy, but maybe nenioiiv— know, healthy, but maybe mentally unstable people are oiiened— mentally unstable people are oiiened ion— mentally unstable people are offered for euthanasia , fabulous offered for euthanasia, fabulous onnoni— offered for euthanasia, fabulous onnoni oi— offered for euthanasia, fabulous amount of organs— offered for euthanasia, fabulous amount of organs to harvest. i ogoin— amount of organs to harvest. i mean, again, kidneys . yeah, mean, again, kidneys. yeah, nonev— mean, again, kidneys. yeah, nonev ogoin. — mean, again, kidneys. yeah, money again. �*fii�*izigl cyxfiizelyi money again. well, exactly. i mean, in a society which is ageing, which will have worse economic problems because of ageing, the simple economic solution is just to kill all the old people. of course, that's horrendous say it that horrendous when we say it that way, that's what's going on. way, but that's what's going on. time callum, as i warned time again, callum, as i warned you— time again, callum, as i warned voo eoning— time again, callum, as i warned voo eonning in— time again, callum, as i warned you coming in, we're always noened— you coming in, we're always noened ion— you coming in, we're always pushed for time,— you coming in, we're always pushed for time, but it's always enen— pushed for time, but it's always eoenleden— pushed for time, but it's always eoenleden o— pushed for time, but it's always suchlsuch a huge— pushed for time, but it's always such such a huge that we such a such a huge topic that we ndei—

such a such a huge topic that we ndei-inie— such a such a huge topic that we must this conversation, must continue this conversation, ioie—ioienl take another opportunity later .inoni— take another opportunity later .inonivod- take another opportunity lateri on. .thank you .coming take another opportunity later. on. .thank you .coming in on. but thank you for coming in today, coming up, as the today, callum. coming up, as the rspca are warning, snake owners to be wary of the pets escaping in hot weather, we have our in the hot weather, we have our very own in the studio. very own snake in the studio. don't anywhere

. i welcome back . now you surely welcome back. now you surely haven't failed to notice the many ways in which we're being trained to fear warm weather from weather maps coloured red to black and extreme weather warnings. it's warm enough warnings. if it's warm enough to get shorts now we're get our shorts on. now we're being that if warm being told that if the warm weather up, can expect weather keeps up, we can expect to more snakes. a kid you to see more snakes. a kid you not here to confirm or deny the suggestion is sue coleman, who on media by the name on social media goes by the name snakey. sue hi, sue. hi, neal. and come on, who's this wondrous individual? all this is rosie, ond— individual? all this is rosie, ond ene-e— individual? all this is rosie, ond ene-e o— individual? all this is rosie, and she's a brazilian- i: . £517 all this is rosie, and she's a brazilian rainbow ioo. — and she's a brazilian rainbow ioo. vvnoi— and she's a brazilian rainbow ioo. did on— and she's a brazilian rainbow boa. �*ifiii�*nfie i?“ did and she's a brazilian rainbow- boa. what an absolutely stunning manifestation. she's beautiful . manifestation. she's beautiful. she really is beautiful. how can

you tell if or is this a rude question that it's a she? i wouldn't know. i couldn't tell the difference between a male and a female. it's difficult vnen— and a female. it's difficult vvnen inev-ne — m: it's difficult when they're young, right? the noiee— when they're young, right? the noiee nove— when they're young, right? the noiee nove o— when they're young, right? the males have a slightly different iengin— males have a slightly different iengin oi— males have a slightly different length of tail. _ males have a slightly different length of tail. right. okay. but inen— length of tail. right. okay. but then sometimes— length of tail. right. okay. but then sometimes i've measured inen— then sometimes i've measured inen ond— then sometimes i've measured inen ond, vod— then sometimes i've measured them and, you know, the female ond— them and, you know, the female ond ine— them and, you know, the female ond ine noie— them and, you know, the female and the male tail— them and, you know, the female and the male tail is the same eoni— and the male tail is the same eoni oi— and the male tail is the same eoni oi — and the male tail is the same sort of size. it's— and the male tail is the same sort of size. it's not- and the male tail is the same sort of size. e i?“ vixen; sort of size. it's not an exact science. yeah. no, it's- sort of size. e si“ snyiize sit izi;“it.i::; yeah. no, it's not. sort of size. e si“ sxsiize sit izi;“it.i::; yeah. no, it's not. you science. yeah. no, it's not. you nnode— science. yeah. no, it's not. you can probe them,— science. yeah. no, it's not. you can probe them, but— science. yeah. no, it's not. you can probe them, but i- snt izi;“it.i::; yeah. no, it's not. you can probe them, but i don't tint izi;“it.i::; yeah. no, it's not. you can probe them, but i don't like doing— can probe them, but i don't like doing ii. — can probe them, but i don't like doing in do.— can probe them, but i don't like doing it. no, no,— can probe them, but i don't like doing it. no, no, i— can probe them, but i don't like doing it. \ii:::i : “ e doing it. no, no, i wouldn't know. is there any. is doing it. \ii:::i : “ e is there any. is there any know. is there any. is there any node— know. is there any. is there any ioeie io— know. is there any. is there any ioeie io inie— know. is there any. is there any basis to this story?— is there any. is there any basis to this story? are there neonie— basis to this story? are there are people going to encounter enoeei in— are people going to encounter more snakes in the warmer veoineni— more snakes in the warmer weather? and— more snakes in the warmer weather? and if— more snakes in the warmer weather? and if so, why? �*sii�*izigl weather? and if so, why? well, if weather? and if so, why? well, ii inev-ne— weather? and if so, why? well, ii inevine vid— weather? and if so, why? well, if they're wild snakes, that's because coming. they're because they're coming. they're maybe getting too hot , feeling maybe getting too hot, feeling too hot. but then if they're feeling too hot, normally they would in a cool place. so would hide in a cool place. so if they're snakes that people have lost it, it's quite possible that they're they've got hot in their vivariums. possible that they're they've got hot in their vivariums . and got hot in their vivariums. and so they've done their best to escape because they're like houdini's. they can flatten their bodies. they just backbone and rib cage so they can flatten

their bodies and squeeze through any gaps. and i suppose owners , any gaps. and i suppose owners, nigniiv— any gaps. and i suppose owners, nigniiv on— any gaps. and i suppose owners, nigniiv on vnongiv— 3 and i suppose owners, rightly or wrongly, might think my rightly or wrongly, might think nv enoie— rightly or wrongly, might think my snake should be out there enjoving— my snake should be out there enjoving ine— my snake should be out there enjoying the sunshine and then ioee— enjoying the sunshine and then ioee eoninoi— enjoying the sunshine and then lose control-the— enjoying the sunshine and then lose control the animal when lose control of the animal when it's lose control of the animal when ii-e—iovn— lose control of the animal when ii-e—iovn oe- lose control of the animal when it's—lawn as well. i it's out on the lawn as well. one— it's out on the lawn as well. one inee— it's out on the lawn as well. are there are— it's out on the lawn as well. are there are really- it's out on the lawn as well. are there are really a- it's out on the lawn as well. are there are really a lot- it's out on the lawn as well. are there are really a lot of snakes like yours in in britain have is there a society for snake owners, for example? there are . i mean, the ihs there are. i mean, the ihs international— there are. i mean, the ihs international herpetological soeieiv— international herpetological soeieiv .— international herpetological soeieiv , idi— international herpetological society , but not really. it's society, but not really. it's iive— society, but not really. it's i've rescued _ society, but not really. it's i've rescued snakes since 1996 ond— i've rescued snakes since 1996 ond ioien— i've rescued snakes since 1996 ond ioien in— i've rescued snakes since 1996 and taken in people's unwanted pet and taken in people's unwanted nei enoeei— and taken in people's unwanted nei enoeei ond— and taken in people's unwanted pet snakes and rehomed them . pet snakes and rehomed them. vied.— pet snakes and rehomed them. vieii. idi— pet snakes and rehomed them. well, rac come— pet snakes and rehomed them. well, rac come to _ pet snakes and rehomed them. well, rac come to me- pet snakes and rehomed them. well, rac come to me .- pet snakes and rehomed them. “t / if well, rac come to me. yeah. if you want her. yeah, i would very much like to have a brief encounter. oh, much like to have a brief encounter . oh, wow . oh, gosh, encounter. oh, wow. oh, gosh, she's a real weight. yeah, she's quite. she's a real weight. yeah, she's goiie. snee— she's a real weight. yeah, she's quite. she's quite— 3“ yeah, she's quite. she's quite substantial. veon— quite. she's quite substantial. veon . doi— quite. she's quite substantial. veon . doi oe— quite. she's quite substantial. yeah . not as big— quite. she's quite substantial. yeah . not as big as- quite. she's quite substantial. / not as big as some of my yeah. not as big as some of my enoeei— yeah. not as big as some of my enoeei idi— yeah. not as big as some of my enoeei idi do— / not as big as some of my snakes, but do people have onvining— snakes, but do people have onvining io— snakes, but do people have anything to fear— snakes, but do people have anything to fear from an animal like anything to fear from an animal iiie ideo— anything to fear from an animal iiie iidci do.— anything to fear from an animal like rac? no. no— anything to fear from an animal like rac? no. no no. i mean, you

jdei— like rac? no. no no. i mean, you joei nove— like rac? no. no no. i mean, you joei nove io— like rac? no. no no. i mean, you joei nove io ie— like rac? no. no no. i mean, you just have to be respect them. decodee— just have to be respect them. decodee ii— just have to be respect them. because if she— just have to be respect them. because if she was lost and ene-e— because if she was lost and ene-e going— because if she was lost and ene-e going io— because if she was lost and she's going to be frightened. vee— she's going to be frightened. vee so— she's going to be frightened. vee so ii— she's going to be frightened. vee so ii voo— she's going to be frightened. yes so if you were going to go iovonde— yes so if you were going to go iovonde nen.— yes so if you were going to go towards her. yeah.— yes so if you were going to go towards her. yeah. just put a cover over their— towards her. yeah. just put a cover over their face. okay. and— cover over their face. okay. and inen — cover over their face. okay. and inen oiei— cover over their face. okay. and then pick them- cover over their face. and then pick them up. you know, voive goi— and then pick them up. you know, voive goi o— and then pick them up. you know, once you've got a cover , maybe once you've got a cover, maybe wear some gloves. _ once you've got a cover, maybe wear some gloves. just pick them up wear some gloves. just pick them on ion — wear some gloves. just pick them on ion ienind.— wear some gloves. just pick them up from behind. like this. once you— up from behind. like this. once vod-inen,— up from behind. like this. once you .them, they'll- up from behind. like this. once you them, they'll be sort you have them, they'll be sort of you have them, they'll be sort oi—vod- you have them, they'll be sort oi—vod jdei| of aiming away and you just nonde— of aiming away and you just handle them— of aiming away and you just handle them like this. or, you know,— handle them like this. or, you know, ii— handle them like this. or, you know, ii vod— handle them like this. or, you know, if you find— handle them like this. or, you know, if you find a small one, you— know, if you find a small one, you-a— know, if you find a small one, vod-o ioeiei- know, if you find a small one, you-a bucket over- know, if you find a small one, you a bucket over it. you can put a bucket over it. now— you can put a bucket over it. now inni— you can put a bucket over it. now that people— you can put a bucket over it. now that people have- you can put a bucket over it. now that people have had all manner of pet snakes for many, many years, are there any alien species established in britain now that wouldn't naturally be here? no , there's the here? no, there's the aesculapian- “izinz;7’ no, there's the aesculapian snake. “$27 no, there's the aesculapian snake. but ”i“i2.2;7’ no, there's the aesculapian snake. but i ”i“22;7’ no, there's the aesculapian snake. but i think inie— aesculapian snake. but i think inie ie— aesculapian snake. but i think inie ie veone— aesculapian snake. but i think this is years back— aesculapian snake. but i think this is years back in wales. inene-e— this is years back in wales. there's like— this is years back in wales. there's like a— this is years back in wales. there's like a little group of oeeedionion— there's like a little group of aesculapian snakes , which i aesculapian snakes, which i inini— aesculapian snakes, which i inini one— aesculapian snakes, which i think come from italy. they're the think come from italy. they're ine onee— think come from italy. they're the ones that— think come from italy. they're the ones that they use for the rod: _ the ones that they use for the nod. vod— the ones that they use for the nod. voo know.— the ones that they use for the rod, you know, the healing rod, ine— rod, you know, the healing rod, ine evnioi— rod, you know, the healing rod, ine evnioi oi— rod, you know, the healing rod, the symbol of hell. yeah. the evnioi— the symbol of hell. yeah. the evnioi oi— the symbol of hell. yeah. the symbol of health— the symbol of hell. yeah. the symbol of health for physicians. vee- — symbol of health for physicians. vee- oiov. on.— symbol of health for physicians. yes. okay. oh, what— symbol of health for physicians. i“/i2;tin olga]; oh, what about symbol of health for physicians. i“/i2;tin oh, what about if yes. okay. oh, what about if neonie— yes. okay. oh, what about if neonie do— yes. okay. oh, what about if people do have— i“/i2;tin oh, what about if people do have snakes and we've neond— people do have snakes and we've neond o— people do have snakes and we've neond o doi— people do have snakes and we've heard a lot about— people do have snakes and we've heard a lot about people taking

on doge— heard a lot about people taking on doge ond. — heard a lot about people taking on dogs and. well, no, particularly— on dogs and. well, no, particularly dogs during ioeidovvn— particularly dogs during lockdown. and then suddenly they neoiiee—oiien- lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. _after- lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. is-after- lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. is a after lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. is a snake after lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. is a snake ater lockdown. and then suddenly they realiseyeah. is a snake a lot to them. yeah. is a snake a lot to iooi— them. yeah. is a snake a lot to iooi oiien— them. yeah. is a snake a lot to iooi oiien i— them. yeah. is a snake a lot to look after ? because i would have look after? because i would have inodgni— look after? because i would have inoogni vod— look after? because i would have inoogni voo joei— look after? because i would have thought you just feed it once a day— thought you just feed it once a dov ond— thought you just feed it once a dov ond ieove— thought you just feed it once a day and leave it. _ thought you just feed it once a day and leave it. /i2i. i:i2i“ e thought you just feed it once a day and leave it. /i2.i. i:i2i“ e : day and leave it. you don't feed them. you can feed them once a month. but the thing is, it neglect. it's to easy neglect them. in a box and, you them. they're in a box and, you know, exciting at the know, it's all exciting at the beginning. like, beginning. and then like, you know, people say , oh, it know, when people say, oh, it started biting me, i said, well, you stopped you you stopped handling it. you have handle them , say, once a have to handle them, say, once a month. lot, but but month. it's not a lot, but but it's easy to neglect them. i'll bnng it's easy to neglect them. i'll bring to you. oh, thank you. bring her to you. oh, thank you. hello, lovely . who's a bring her to you. o“ who's a lovely hello, lovely. who's a lovely one— hello, lovely. who's a lovely ii-e— hello, lovely. who's a lovely one? it's the _ hello, lovely. who's a lovely one? it's the way— hello, lovely. who's a lovely one? it's the way it- hello, lovely. who's a lovely one? it's the way it is. - who's a lovely one? it's the way it is. i one? it's the way it is. yes. i . ii— one? it's the way it is. yes. i mean , it wants— one? it's the way it is. yes. i mean , it wants to- one? it's the way it is. yes. i mean , it wants to go to mum. mean, it wants to go to mum. ieeoning— mean, it wants to go to mum. ieeoning pennie— mean, it wants to go to mum. escaping people really- mean, it wants to go to mum. escaping people really do- mean, it wants to go to mum. escaping people really do need to have a thermometer in their in the vivarium so they can tell the temperature. yeah. you need to know because we've got habitats but you need to have a thermometer to realistically even native snakes , even with our native snakes, what snakes and even what a grass, snakes and even adders were going to adders were not really going to face any kind of problem with with wild snakes, are we?

however warm it gets? no . look, however warm it gets? no. look, it however warm it gets? no. look, ii nonin— however warm it gets? no. look, ii vonie io— however warm it gets? no. look, ii vonie in go— however warm it gets? no. look, it wants to go in the sofa . it wants to go in the sofa. what are you letting her do ? it wants to go in the sofa. - what are you letting her do ? is what are you letting her do? is rezzy— what are you letting her do? is rezzy oi— what are you letting her do? is rezzy oi idi— what are you letting her do? is rezzy at full size? yeah. - what are you letting her do? t 7 yeah. yeah, rezzy at full size? yeah. yeah, she's. i've had her 13 years and she's. i've had her 13 years and she was already an adult when i took her in. right. so she poses the took her in. right. so she poses ine gneoieei— took her in. right. so she poses the greatest threat— took her in. right. so she poses the greatest threat to— the greatest threat to something. 7 the greatest threat to something. �*svi�* 7 .�*i�*iie�*g the greatest threat to - something. what? maybe the the greatest threat to _ something. what? maybe the size of a rat. a mouse? a rat. but people are so , so, so afraid of people are so, so, so afraid of snakes. they they've had a bad rap. let's be honest . they do? rap. let's be honest. they do? yeah. actually, therapeutic. en.— yeah. actually, therapeutic. on. inev. — yeah. actually, therapeutic. on. inev. vee— yeah. actually, therapeutic. oh, they. yes. over- yeah. actually, therapeutic. o“ yes. over the years of oh, they. yes. over the years of ioiing — oh, they. yes. over the years of ioiing inen — oh, they. yes. over the years of taking them out— oh, they. yes. over the years of taking them out to— o“ yes. over the years of taking them out to meet people, iive— taking them out to meet people, be eon— taking them out to meet people, be eoni oi— taking them out to meet people, i've sort of found— taking them out to meet people, i've sort of found this out by neonie— i've sort of found this out by people actually— i've sort of found this out by people actually saying it to me. inev-ve— people actually saying it to me. inevive eoid— people actually saying it to me. they've said, oh,— people actually saying it to me. they've said, oh, they're so, so eioi— they've said, oh, they're so, so eiei ieeooee— they've said, oh, they're so, so sick because was— they've said, oh, they're so, so sick because was all the person is sick because was all the person ie ininiing— sick because was all the person ie ininiing oi— sick because was all the person is thinking of at— sick because was all the person is thinking of at the moment inev— is thinking of at the moment inev-ine— is thinking of at the moment they-the snake- is thinking of at the moment they the snake is she okay. they have the snake is she okay. am they have the snake is she okay. ann i— they have the snake is she okay. ann i nondiing— they have the snake is she okay. am i handling her— they have the snake is she okay. am i handling her properly and all am i handling her properly and oii oi— am i handling her properly and oii oi ine— am i handling her properly and all of the worries— am i handling her properly and all of the worries go out of vodn— all of the worries go out of voon neod— all of the worries go out of your head. you're not caring oiooi— your head. you're not caring oiooi inie— your head. you're not caring about this creature that you know— about this creature that you know nothing— about this creature that you know nothing about. yeah. and it's know nothing about. yeah. and in dike.— know nothing about. yeah. and in dike. on.— know nothing about. yeah. and it's like, oh,.she_ know nothing about. yeah. and it's like, oh, she all right? it's like, oh, is she all right? vied.— it's like, oh, is she all right? vveii. on— it's like, oh, is she all right? vveii. on i— it's like, oh, is she all right? well, am i hurting her? is it? voo— well, am i hurting her? is it? you know.— well, am i hurting her? is it? you know, she's— well, am i hurting her? is it? you know, she's to stroke. you know, she's nice to stroke. eoee— you know, she's nice to stroke. ionen ene— you know, she's nice to stroke. ionen ene ieei— you know, she's nice to stroke. does she feel that? does- you know, she's nice to stroke. i �*72;i2;. “s7 does she does she feel that? does she feel you mentioned-

does she feel that? does she feel you mentioned the- i �*72;i2;. “s7 does she feel you mentioned the species nnon— feel you mentioned the species inon iioiv— feel you mentioned the species inon iioiv. ine— feel you mentioned the species from italy, the aesculapian deeedionion— from italy, the aesculapian aesculapian. _ from italy, the aesculapian aesculapian . : aesculapian. that's bound up with a lot of mythology and religious idealism, isn't it? yeah. so aesculapius it would be after the god of medicine , as after the god of medicine, as you say. so it was aesculapius. but it's all bound up with- but it's all bound up with vonenin— but it's all bound up with vvonenin oi— but it's all bound up with worship of them and there's gdiie— worship of them and there's gdiie o— worship of them and there's goiie o doi— worship of them and there's quite a lot they— worship of them and there's quite a lot they have this ieeiivoi— quite a lot they have this festival don't— quite a lot they have this festival don't they. o7 festival don't they. of the of snoesi — festival don't they. of the of snakes, aesculapian snakes. and so before, so before people develop or. well, you know, neonie— develop or. well, you know, neonie nosiiv— : well, you know, people mostly think about snies — people mostly think about snies i— people mostly think about snakes. i suppose, and feel goiie— snakes. i suppose, and feel gone-iv- snakes. i suppose, and feel gdiie-iv ine- snakes. i suppose, and feel- quite-by the prospect. quite alarmed by the prospect. but quite alarmed by the prospect. noi inene— quite alarmed by the prospect. but there-another- quite alarmed by the prospect. but there another time and but there was another time and in-nioees— but there was another time and in - places where - but there was another time and in places where they have in other places where they have been — in other places where they have ieen—eeninoi- been absolutely central to neonie-s— been absolutely central to people's understanding of health and people's understanding of health ond-nesi— people's understanding of health ond-nesi in— people's understanding of health and-rest in asia,— people's understanding of health and rest in asia, there and the rest in asia, there inee— and the rest in asia, there there cared— and the rest in asia, there there cared for— and the rest in asia, there there cared for religiously . there cared for religiously. inev-ne— there cared for religiously. they're they're _ there cared for religiously. they're they're allowed to roam in certain , you know, religious in certain, you know, religious religious areas and looked after like cows or perhaps in india. but so in the christian religion . oi— but so in the christian religion , of course, snakes— but so in the christian religion , of course, snakes don't do

venv— , of course, snakes don't do venv veii. — , of course, snakes don't do venv veii. d— , of course, snakes don't do very well. a bad- , of course, snakes don't do very well. a bad rap. absolutely. - very well. a bad rap. absolutely. very bad rap. but idi— absolutely. very bad rap. but idi ine— absolutely. very bad rap. but but the positive— absolutely. very bad rap. but but the positive element of snies— but the positive element of snies is— but the positive element of snakes is wisdom. so you know, nnon— snakes is wisdom. so you know, inon o— snakes is wisdom. so you know, inon o nosiiive— snakes is wisdom. so you know, from a positive view , they they from a positive view, they they nenneseni— from a positive view, they they represent wisdom _ from a positive view, they they represent wisdom in the bible. but represent wisdom in the bible. noi noen— represent wisdom in the bible. noi noon oi— represent wisdom in the bible. but much of the— represent wisdom in the bible. but much of the time it's deviiisn. — but much of the time it's devilish. yeah— but much of the time it's devilish. yeah - but much of the time it's devilish. yeah �*svi�*i2;.. “g devilish. yeah well, the thing is, the idea that the snake spoke to eve , they don't have spoke to eve, they don't have any vocal they don't they can't speak. any vocal they don't they can't speak . so this is a completely speak. so this is a completely different serpent. it's a mythological- different serpent. it's a mythological one. - 2 ”i222“ it's a mythological one. \i2i different serpent. it's a mythological one. no, i just inini— mythological one. no, i just think that on the contrary to keeping away from them, more people, as many people as possible, should get a real experience of these animals. because think you've been because i think if you've been properly presence, they properly in the presence, they are quite wonderful. yes, i used to do so are quite wonderful. yes, i used io do so nonv— are quite wonderful. yes, i used to do so many schools- 2. 2 yes, i used to do so many schools when i dived— to do so many schools when i iived in— to do so many schools when i lived in london.— to do so many schools when i lived in london. many, many senoois— lived in london. many, many schools were— lived in london. many, many schools were running out of iinne. — schools were running out of iinne. vie-ne— schools were running out of time. we're going- schools were running out of time. �*svi�*i2; ”i2; gi2i “g schools were running out of time. i3i} “i: schools were running out of time. 22d “2 time. we're going to have to hold that thought. that's it for this hold that thought. that's it for inis veei. — hold that thought. that's it for this week. my thanks to snakey sue and to all my guests, especially jasmine. thank you. next , common sense crusade next up, common sense crusade with calvin robinson. i'll see you next week . hello there. you next week. hello there. vieieone—

you next week. hello there. vieieone io— you next week. hello there. welcome to your— you next week. hello there. welcome to your gb- “2.x. hello there. welcome to your gb news weather ioneeosi— welcome to your gb news weather ioneeosi inon — welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the _ welcome to your gb news weather forecast from the met office. in — forecast from the met office. in cnoig— forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell.— forecast from the met office. i'm craig snell. well, looking oneod— i'm craig snell. well, looking oneod io— i'm craig snell. well, looking ahead to sunday,— i'm craig snell. well, looking ahead to sunday, it's a bit of a nonin— ahead to sunday, it's a bit of a nod sodin— ahead to sunday, it's a bit of a north south split— ahead to sunday, it's a bit of a north south split across the eonninv— north south split across the eooninv. nonv— north south split across the country. many southern areas snodid—dnv- country. many southern areas should-dry with. country. many southern areas. should-dry with some should be largely dry with some good— should be largely dry with some good-sunshine.- good spells of sunshine. but across—remains. across the north it remains nneiiv—ond- across the north it remains nneiiv—ond ii-si across the north it remains. pretty—and it's all pretty changeable and it's all down— pretty changeable and it's all down io— pretty changeable and it's all down io inis— pretty changeable and it's all down to this area— pretty changeable and it's all down to this area of low pressure, which is not really going— pressure, which is not really going-venv— pressure, which is not really going-venv ion- pressure, which is not really going very far over the going to go very far over the nevi—noie- going to go very far over the| next—note that going to go very far over the- next _ note that the next few days. and note that the iigniiv— next few days. and note that the iigniiv noeied— next few days. and note that the tightly packed isobars indicate inoi—o- tightly packed isobars indicate inoi—o ioinivl that it's going to be a fairly iidsienv— that it's going to be a fairly blustery-hours.- that it's going to be a fairly blustery hours. so as end blustery 24 hours. so as we end soidndov.— blustery 24 hours. so as we end soidndov. o— blustery 24 hours. so as we end saturday, a fairly— blustery 24 hours. so as we end saturday, a fairly quiet end to the saturday, a fairly quiet end to ine-oenoss— saturday, a fairly quiet end to the-across many- saturday, a fairly quiet end to the across many southern the day across many southern idi— the day across many southern areas, but across— the day across many southern areas, but across the north, innnen— areas, but across the north, further-moving- areas, but across the north, further moving in on areas, but across the north,- further-moving in on a further showers moving in on a ioiniv—sone- fairly keen wind. some persistent— fairly keen wind. some persistent continuing persistent rain continuing oenoss-ond- persistent rain continuing. across-and orkney. across shetland and orkney. and nene— across shetland and orkney. and nene oeidoiiv— across shetland and orkney. and here actually the _ across shetland and orkney. and here actually the winds will sinenginen — here actually the winds will strengthen further as the night goes—ine- strengthen further as the night goes—ine nei- strengthen further as the night goes—the risk of. goes on. certainly the risk of. some _we -sunday some gales as we start sunday nonning. — some gales as we start sunday nonning. edi— some gales as we start sunday morning. but for— some gales as we start sunday morning. but for all of us, temperatures— morning. but for all of us, temperatures generally staying in-iigdnes— temperatures generally staying in-iigdnes .— temperatures generally staying in-iigdnes . so- temperatures generally staying in figures . so sunday in double figures. so sunday eionie— in double figures. so sunday sionis oii— in double figures. so sunday starts off with— in double figures. so sunday starts off with plenty of sonsnine— starts off with plenty of sunshine across the south and it neoiiv— sunshine across the south and it neoiiv ennoins— sunshine across the south and it really remains that— sunshine across the south and it really remains that way for most of really remains that way for most oi ine— really remains that way for most oi ine dov— really remains that way for most oi ine dov .— really remains that way for most of the day . some— really remains that way for most of the day . some fair weather of the day. some fair weather dood— of the day. some fair weather eioii-on— of the day. some fair weather eiodd-dn-iinei of the day. some fair weather. cloud-up-time to cloud bubbling up from time to iinne. —o- cloud bubbling up from time to time._a mixture time. northern areas, a mixture of time. northern areas, a mixture oi sonnv— time. northern areas, a mixture oi sonnv sneiis— time. northern areas, a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers. .again,- of sunny spells and scattered showers. again, across showers. but again, note across ponie— showers. but again, note across nonis oi— showers. but again, note across none oi oninev— showers. but again, note across parts of orkney and northern seoiiond— parts of orkney and northern seoiiond .— parts of orkney and northern scotland , we— parts of orkney and northern

scotland , we remain cloudy with scotland, we remain cloudy with some persistent— scotland, we remain cloudy with some persistent rain. really eonnving— some persistent rain. really eonnving on— some persistent rain. really carrying on right throughout the oi ine— carrying on right throughout the course of the day.— carrying on right throughout the course of the day. but in the sonsnine— course of the day. but in the sunshine across— course of the day. but in the sunshine across the south, ieeiing— sunshine across the south, feeling pleasantly warm. highs neoening— feeling pleasantly warm. highs neoening ms— feeling pleasantly warm. highs reaching 2223 degrees, a little eooi— reaching 2223 degrees, a little eooi enonges— reaching 2223 degrees, a little cool changes as— reaching 2223 degrees, a little cool changes as we move into sundov— cool changes as we move into sondov nigni— cool changes as we move into sunday night. fairly quiet ine— sunday night. fairly quiet across the south, but further rain or showers— across the south, but further rain or showers across the nonin— rain or showers across the nonin. ogoin— rain or showers across the north, again being blown in on a ioiniv— north, again being blown in on a ioiniv keen— north, again being blown in on a fairly keen wind.— north, again being blown in on a fairly keen wind. and for orkney and fairly keen wind. and for orkney ond sneiiond— fairly keen wind. and for orkney and shetland and— fairly keen wind. and for orkney and shetland and the far north of and shetland and the far north oi seoiiond. — and shetland and the far north of scotland, that— and shetland and the far north of scotland, that rain just nensisiing— of scotland, that rain just persisting right throughout the nigni. — persisting right throughout the nigni. and— persisting right throughout the nigni. and in— persisting right throughout the night. and in fact, it will remain that— night. and in fact, it will remain that way as we go into ine— remain that way as we go into ine iiondov— remain that way as we go into the monday itself— remain that way as we go into the monday itself elsewhere , a the monday itself elsewhere, a iigni— the monday itself elsewhere, a inigni sioni— the monday itself elsewhere, a inigni sioni io— the monday itself elsewhere, a bright start to the day. but dood— bright start to the day. but eiodd viii— bright start to the day. but cloud will begin to spill in across many western areas with some outbreaks— across many western areas with some outbreaks of— across many western areas with some outbreaks of rain arriving nene— some outbreaks of rain arriving nene os— some outbreaks of rain arriving nene os ine— some outbreaks of rain arriving here as the afternoon goes on. nni— here as the afternoon goes on. noi ine— here as the afternoon goes on. noi ine ieei— here as the afternoon goes on. but the best of— here as the afternoon goes on. but the best of the driest and inigniesi— but the best of the driest and brightest conditions really nesenved— brightest conditions really nesenved in— brightest conditions really reserved in the afternoon down iovonde— reserved in the afternoon down iovonde ine— reserved in the afternoon down towards the south—east and part of towards the south—east and part oi ine— towards the south—east and part oi ine sodninv— towards the south—east and part oi ine sodninv .— towards the south—east and part of the country . and really the of the country. and really the sioni— of the country. and really the sioni oi— of the country. and really the sioni oi nevi— of the country. and really the start of next week remains onseiiied— start of next week remains unsettled for— start of next week remains unsettled for all of us on on moni— unsettled for all of us on on iioni ooion— unsettled for all of us on on mark dolan tonight in my

opinion.— mark dolan tonight in my opinion, meddling monarch, king cnonies— opinion, meddling monarch, king cnonies signs— opinion, meddling monarch, king charles signs up— opinion, meddling monarch, king charles signs up to climate nvsienio— charles signs up to climate nvsienio by— charles signs up to climate hysteria by switching on an enengenev— hysteria by switching on an emergency global warming clock . emergency global warming clock. if emergency global warming clock. ii — emergency global warming clock. ii nev— emergency global warming clock. ii king— emergency global warming clock. if our new king wants— emergency global warming clock. if our new king wants to- emergency global warming clock. if our new king wants to stay on the throne, he's going to have to stay out of politics. jeremy clarkson is wild. comments last year meghan markle were a year about meghan markle were a little harsh, but the press industry today are industry attacking him today are punishing entertaining writer punishing an entertaining writer simply for his job. the simply for doing his job. the war on free speech continues. my mark meets guest is the daughter of music genius louis armstrong. plus my top and plus my top pundits and tomorrow's papers . we're live .

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